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Music Talks Week on Set Lusting Bruce

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

04:33 min | 1 year ago

Music Talks Week on Set Lusting Bruce

"<music> hello and welcome to a new episode is set lesson Bruce Your podcast. It's all about Bruce. Springsteen is music and mostly his fans. I am your host Jesse Jackson but today isn't a true episode. This is a preview episode. You Know How on TV they will often often. Give you a little one minute snippet of preview of a new season of a T._v.. Show well think of this as a podcast version of that or A. Ed Promo coming up starting on July fifteenth. It's going to be music talk week. On settling Bruce Friend of the podcast Terry Smith has started a new podcast his his podcast is called music tonks. It was very much similar to win. He was on the show with me doing what we called. teatime with Terry where you pick a song and of every decade you'd been alive <hes> so he decided to start his own podcast. He's calling it. Music talks and I am thrilled to do my I part to help him. Promote them on Monday. We have a brand new episode where Terry and I talk about his new podcast on Tuesday. I'm going to re release. The very first TI- time with Terry episode that featured Terry and I going through each of our songs for the decades on Wednesday. It's a new episode <hes> Martha Southgate who is one of of the leaders owners of southgate media joined us for a teatime with Terry discussion. It's never been released. It was such a great episode and it was so filled with so many these stories we actually split it in two parts so Thursday will be the second part of Martha's episode on Friday. I'M GONNA re release of Rob Southgate's teatime with Terry episode ladies I of course then we're GonNa rob. He had some great stories and then finally unsettled Kevin who had reached out to us after hearing the episode and asked if he could join us so it was kind of a in the wild teatime. On with Terry so Kevin joins us he's from Louisiana and we're going to share his story which was just amazing. It's a week of music talks. I hope you enjoy this kind of week of episodes in the meantime meantime. I did want to share with you. That music talks is easy to find search for music talks Terry Smith on any of your favorite podcasts players in will come up the website website for his podcast is music talks pod dot buzz sprout dot com and you can email him at music talks spotted outlook dot com. Tom and his twitter is at music talks pot. I hope you enjoy the week. Thank you very much for your support and as always keep hope alive and you just heard the fun hard rock music album rating ban thanking joy spreading leered readings store sharing.

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Music Talks First Anniversary

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

36:32 min | 3 months ago

Music Talks First Anniversary

"Chooses Song from east and. Yeah okay, and then a few days later. You'll get an email saying. Hey I can just choose an album cone I, and is like. Is it really only once? Hello, everyone and welcome to a new episode is set listening Bruce. Your cast all about Bruce springsteen his music and mostly Estonians but today. This is a special day. This is a music talks day because my good friend. I br podcast, brother, my brother in all things music Terry Smith's on the show. Terry Welcome. Thank you as always. It's an absolute tonight and talking to you. So. We're. We're here celebrating something a little special today, aren't we? Well we all well suddenly special for me so. With Alba Jesse, I started Poe casting did some episodes moving talking? They're probably as long as two years ago, but. On June twenty fifth last year. I launched my podcast. I flew Sodo. It's called music talks. And I quote this to everyone that. Prior to doing that I went on the pompously Nabeel. pompously named Guardian masterclass on podcasting, but the guy who ran that had an interesting stat that said. Three percent of podcasts don't get past episodes seven. So to get to twenty five to get to a year. I have a long way to go to catch Jesse. But yeah, it feels really really good to have to say in it's. It's nice to have a bit of an audience who also seem vaguely pleased that I've got there as well so that's nice. That is very great. I'm so proud of you. I I am a listener of the podcast and I in it. for those of you who may not have heard music talks give us a Kinda of give us your elevator pitch on what the podcast is. The very simple elevator pitches choose a song from each decade of your life. what the podcast is become an. You were the first person to up start adding this in when we did that episode is it's become a vehicle for? People basically to tell the sort of life story or a very personal story there is still a fair amount of music and music nursery in there, but genuinely it's surprise. Pleased an on many occasions. Touch me. some of the stories that people live of Shad, and I guess the other joy for me is that? This I've had guests on the for twenty twenty five years, and I'm talking to them going really like. I've known you for all that time and I never knew that happened to you. So That's the basic premises. Choose a song. Check we life. Tell us why. And It is so simple yet so diverse it is I've talked to a few people and I have been. A A. Talent scout if I will. If I hear someone, I'll go. You know you really should reach out some Frontier Smith. I think you would enjoy being on his podcast, you know when I give him the premise. Okay? What are the rules? That's the rules dealer's choice it depict. If you've been live. If you're in your fifth decade, you pick five songs and what songs you pick from. Your choice and that. Simplicity has led to some really amazing episodes. Dr One the things I enjoy is that you will cite people. Chooses Song. Decade and I've been thinking. Oh Okay and then a few days later. You'll get an email saying. Hey I can just choose an album cone, I and is like. Is it really only wants? And I will pull them into a folder at some point but I've had obviously twenty five guests. I written. I've got emails from at least fifteen of at some point going this is really hard. But people seem to enjoy the process, and it reminds you know about a lot of people saying. It's it's taken them back. It's reminded them things reminded the music learn to for longtime so That is so great. I think back to You know ten July in his podcast. Someone will say Oh, you should do this. You know would give a story about like a documentary or do a episode. When he was doing the BS show you know about and he goes. Yeah, you should. There's nothing you know, and so I kind of think the same thing. An album decade. That is a permit. PODCAST. Look Daring Yeah I would. You kind of mentioned this, but. Is there one or two things that have stood out. The test surprised you about doing the show. The the first surprise. Is that an again? You were the person who asked the question right? The early days of what rules should the be? and. They're really on any rose. Other than pick a song from each decade is never realized how creative people were going to be. To bend the rules so. I had as we talked before. Actually on the pilot episode you bent the rules by choosing the wrecking ball version of land of hope and dreams, and claiming that as a to retire as an intense song, even though it came out in two thousand and two I had a guest Stephen Radley chew redefined. What a decade! So he had his decade starting at one and finishing a zero. 'CAUSE 'cause that allowed him to get A. Song in either recent guest Nigel Kirkum. Who managed to persuade me in fairness I was complicit in this. He desperately wanted to choose led Zeppelin for the for the Maltese. On? As a seventies band Nigel, and then I came up with the fat that led Zeppelin did a reunion concert. In two thousand seven. The Oh to. Now the album wasn't released until two thousand twelve, but the concept was in two thousand seven, so I allowed him to choose led Zeppelin for. Two, thousand ten, which, to my great player, actually got people paying me to go. You shouldn't do that. Yes I. It's Nice that there's people out there. Now feel ownership for my format marina affectionately. Agree with you I. think that is Great. The other thing I I can't remember who, but someone didn't pick the they're. They're decades like it wouldn't matter much to me. I was born fifty nine, so the first decade is fifty nine to sixty nine and then sixty seventy i. didn't someone do pick their? I don't think so. Steve Steve Steven Definitely Mexico. Rosy rosy just said I was too young. I'm not choosing anything, but she was the first one to choose from that from twenty twenty, so yeah, it's. I guess it's one of life's great lessons that you think I've come up with something. Really simple and straightforward here and the creativity of people to to move around is great so I? Think that's that's been. That's been want surprise. And then as said before just the stories that have come up on the incredible stories that have come up you know and I think. I'm I'm proud about that. We've had a real mix of people, backgrounds and ages and Everybody's got a great story. I am totally agree with that. I mean that is I often say to people online when I'm trying to get. Guess like Oh I don't have anything to share and go like everyone. Everyone has a springsteen story. Everyone that's passionate of band. Has something were sharing because it's personal in its there Do. Any regrets after this first year. Yes, absolutely, which is I, have A. Great Guy. Who helps me now with the audio and the editing? and doesn't charge a fortune which I'm eternally grateful on I really wish I'd done that on upsets. I've got I'm going to have to force myself to go back and listen to the first five or six. Because you know, I'm a hi, fi audio, nerd and I think. So yeah. I wish I wish well. I wish I'd done that, but that said the great thing about doing it myself is I did. Teach myself how to use audacity and everything so. I and the the learning of for me was the more I learned, the longer it took me to edit. Because I was able to do more. One Point I was disappearing down a rabbit hole, and that's when it was like no hold on I need to do something different. So I would do that I guess the second thing for anyone I love listening is. I wouldn't wait so long. You know you and I were talking earlier today that. From the first pilot episode. To me. Going Solo was almost a year. On if I'm honest, I was probably I was finding excuses for about the last four months of that? And, you know it is one of those things that you can practice practice. You can do stuff, but if anybody if anybody sat there, thinking had lived podcast, but. It it's It's incredibly fulfilling and I always do go back to that. Course referenced An. You've heard me say. Jesse the. One of the great bits of advice, the guy run smart Larousse said was. If you have a format, the you would do if no one was listening. You're probably onto something. On the red, the reality is for me and I know it's exactly the same for you. I come off those conversations, and it's Light Genoa I've just had. An hour and a half's brilliant conversation with music with a lovely interesting person. Isn't that fantastic now? The great thing is some a number of people actually then listened to that, but. It is dare I cannot tell you how many times when I I I want to tweet after I finish recording. Oh I. Did this one and you guys are just. GonNa love this I have a fear in so I wanna ask you about that. I've a fear going to run out of guests. So I tend to record like currently if you I have an excel file. That shows all the people. That have scheduled so I have I currently have a nine people that have actually said to me. Yes, I want to be on the PODCAST and we've actually scheduled a time. So if I released an episode every two weeks, I have podcast up to July fifteenth, and we're recording this on June thirteenth I have a month in advance. because I'm worried I'm going to run into people and I won't be able to talk. Talk to you, how do you find your guests than? Do you have that fear well? I'll take it in reverse order so I didn't until about three weeks ago. When suddenly there was this moment where I thought my God. And, of course, what I then did was the time honored paint a few people and I've I've now. I've now got the problem of managing expectations because the great news is gone very long list. But I did have that. You know I've sort of means to be wished to be rude to anyone but. Done the obvious people I've done close friends. So by bigger issue at the moment, and I did get myself into a good position on this, and then I slipped from. It is I do not have. A backlog of episodes in the camp. And with everything that's happening in the moment and health, and that you Sydney think if I was. If I was to fall ill for a few weeks than. The big happened. It might sound a small thing, but one of the things. I'm really pleased about AIDS. You know I haven't missed an episode. I did move at the start. The areas to publish on a Tuesday I spent ages trying to work out what the best day would be I won't choose day at ten. That was the worst possible day for me for a whole series. Reasons so I moved here from Tuesday Thursday, but you know I haven't. The hasn't been so I. Try not a very regular every two weeks. This comes out. I haven't missed a single woman and that's something I want to continue so I need to get into for period of time recording an episode week and releasing an episode every two weeks. And build up a bit the Butler. Yeah so what what I find in in I know this has got to be frustrating for. My guest is Like I'm going to talk to Graham lease next Saturday and in a or I've already recorded cram and like. At the end of May in his pocket, come out so sometimes there's three or four week delay in when we talked to win. It's published and I just explained that because I want that backlog. I want that ability that if I do, WanNa do just one episode a week I have that and that's what I do I shoot for one episode a week, but if I get I, get lucky and get enough people WanNa talk to me if I, get a backlog. Okay, I'm releasing to a week and and then that does give me the chance that if a lot's going on at home, I can skip elitist morning. Engine, because it goes, does then the fine balance of. If you look at the episode, we've just recorded because at the moment. I'M ON A. Short timescale to release then we can talk about. Current events, yes. There is that sort of balanced, but. I will work my way through. Is I suspect I will probably use the argument to justify why. I'm always doing things at the last minute. Perfectly great argument, it is very nice I. We kind of talked about this. But is there? is in a year. has there been anyone you wanted to get that? You haven't got yet, 'cause you were. Luckily you've reached out some pretty pretty good people on the podcast pretty well-known. Bruce didn't reply. Now I actually what should. It was Patty? Because here's a little interesting interesting whether you've got. If you look at my guests to stall with. They were setting on the diversity Rating. I wasn't doing very well on the good news is that some female friends told me that? Most of my top episodes are my female guest. Now I have a theory that says that's because they have better friends and they share better. But. Was it so. The the res. There is one lady and I might just when you publish this hour, we'll send it to his level Pam. who I worked with a number years, he's now the chief executive. All the company called Avenor. Managed. And she is just stupidly busy, but I I would love to get I would love to get Pamela shape. Think at the moment is that's the only person that either has agreed I think. Finish recorded. Now got a what about now. No, that's good I someone did ask. to me like. How would you feel if you could have bruce on the show and I? Said you know I thought about that recently, won I would. I was sick to the format. So I would I would talk to. Bruce, about his music, with like what did he? What can you grow up in what artists you are a fan of? And who haven't you seen? Live that you wish you could've. And what songs have you heard them perform and. Then the question comes, would you ask Bruce Ameriquest? And then you would have a definite answer right if Bruce Caves of Mary answer, you would do okay there. We don't need us. Mary To throw in waves and sways at the same Tom. I would go. I would tell the story, and I said this was on the podcast that Dr Asimov Asimov. Science fiction writers was in a lecture, and he was talking about what a story meant reader, racist hand and said I. Don't think that's what the stories about. As says why wrote it? I should be able to know what it's about, and the reader came exit. Just because you're right it. What do you make you think you know what it's about? And Isaac Thought and said I think you're right, absolute, and and so I would think so, Bruce just because you say does, doesn't it mccart? Make it the fact. Yeah absolutely and I I mean if I go back to when the other episodes I love all my guest but Larry is it did different? and that was like episode three me here and I had a pretty challenging conversation around the whole metoo movement and particularly Ryan Adams. who obviously allegations and they still haven't come to to to any think yet We had dog that said. And I can't remember where I read it, but somebody saying. Once you've written something whether it's song whether it's a film whether it's doesn't a piece of all. You hand over. Which I think is exactly you're Asimov story that says you know, then it becomes the listener. Wants it to be all has decided. It's going to be and I. think that's. That's the magic, and I am going to somebody's Southie, never written in the I I would have full somebody presenting a song back to talking about Song that you've written and giving interpretation that never occurred. You must be fantastic. Oh I would think. So a couple of springsteen, quick hits because this listening Bruce. Have you re watched blinded by the light, and did you like it more the second time? No no and I have no intention of doing okay. Is! That is an unfair response Jesse. Alto you in in a couple years are probably will take another look at it and just. Decide. You know without Ida Day. But I'll you know I'm a complete hist on my collection and vinyl, and all of that on one of the place I buy vinyl. The is a special edition of Lonzo by the light and I didn't order it so again I lived in. So, yeah I, just I had a pretty evisceration, but to do it in to do the honorable thing. I should rewatch again a few years, but I think. I need space first. Now, but you are not disappointed in western stars if I remember. The blown away and You my my view. Is I really like the album so I? If I was doing reviews I to forestalls or great I think the film version takes up another level. I think the actual performances have taken some of the Sch-. Just enough of the Sheen off that you've still got the Glen Campbell loss, but does the voices a bit grittier? There's nothing I just think he does. Manage to live. So I think but I think the film itself I've actually given all loaned. The DVD? Excuse me to to a few friends who are not necessarily. Music Fans and certainly not springsteen fans. I've lent it. The more Iran that vignettes. the At one point with wanted a friend, he. Knew really resonated with her. He talks about how we all fall back into the into bad behavior, even though it's painful because it's familiar in its comfortable. You know. So I I think. The. The negative will say Oh cod philosophy. I think there's real life lessons in that film, so I, I I think it's the best thing he's done on film. I think the psalms just get better and better. So yeah I think it's a real real hyper. have you been? Have you by hook or crook been able to hear his DJ sessions from his house to ours right I. Think is what they're calling from his house yours. Have you been able to hear those I? Haven't and I'll tell you why which is and. I actually haven't tried that hard only because. I guess I'd like to see self awareness I. Know that if I start down that road I'll have to find an answer. And if I can't find an answer, I'll get annoyed. Worry is islander signing up for some serious FM subscription and having a PC. That's pretending to be in the US and Blah Blah so I'm just hoping at some point. They get posted somewhere. But I've I've read all the transcripts I've seen. The set lists a and I think it's. I think it's really interesting. He's taken that approach. Because I guess it was assigned to me the as soon as you know, too started streaming from home. The decide they went our bruce will do that and. I think it could have been quite. Obvious cliche. And the fact that gone down the radio show route again. I just think shows. I'm which he thinks about what he's trying to do. So. We're going on a trip in I asked Linda. 'cause you know we don't listen to a lot. Bruce in the car when we're driving. Because Linda gets enough bruce all the time. And I said, do you mind if we listened eastern radio? I think there might be replaying him being DJ, and she goes sure and In about halfway through it, she goes I. Just wish he wouldn't play the songs, and he would just talk because when he taunts I. Really Find that interesting, but I'm not don't particularly like some the songs he's faking. which I thought was interesting, and then by the end. She's like okay. Now I am liking some of the songs. It's a very different way to Kinda share. while. Things are going on absolutely and I. Just say I think it's indicative how much you thinks here's one. Of before you well question, I will eat. People, people sometimes generously compare music choices, but. There is a BBC programme that been going for about fifty years called desert island discs. Jess, have you have you heard the Bruce version of now? I have a I liked it a lot. In fact after hearing that I went and. I will admit cherry picked. Oh, I know that person would be like Tom Hanks and other people listened to other people I knew I recognized the name and listened to that versions If I had time, I would think even if I didn't know the person. It would be a fascinating discussion. Yeah, it's It's always been a great program, but the the interesting thing Lincoln, to me that talks about stuff that come up. one of the things. Was this discussion with people about and as I've now discovered real scientific research that. The music and stuff I read was the music you listen to between fourteen and twenty two. Does literally have a bigger impact on you then later in life, so in terms of what happens to your brain physiological reaction. Hit was the interesting thing for me. If you listen to earn discs, all the Brucie's choices were between the age of fourteen and twenty two. Interesting does the stuff that's really spent the my brain is. On the forget it. so any plans for the second year that you WANNA share. What you're doing and again it goes back to a question of running out of the guests, and then some the older. These ideas come so I I again. One of the things I love is that something can happen in? That will spin something else often so. I mentioned. This Guy Tim let's. Bass player in the band on my plant music. And I he ping me some, so we would just do a messenger dialogue and we don't. It's not. We're not in regular contact. and then. I said to him out love to have you on the show Tim and he came, and he said I'll be absolutely delighted. He's a issue. Probably have will his son on. And I suddenly thought. How about doing father in some, but not together. Have! One episode is the father. And then two weeks later have the sun. So that got me then thinking that the as. I did an episode with the lady called recent absurd lady called Kim Veritas a singer in Seattle. and. Husband Chris Friel a as a drummer. So it was like well. Kim might be interesting to have Chris. And that's great, and then I mentioned Larry before, and the irony is i. met Larry through his wife Susan. But, they have a son. Jared who it his band. Who is my injury music? So I'm definitely might blanche artem edge before his wife. Mike keep saying when he's Laura GonNa. Come on, and it's like that's not going to happen So I'm thinking about doing a sort of. Family you know some connection, it might be father. Son might be has been wife, but trying to build up That's one of the things I think for year to. Oh that'll be awesome. good. That sounds really good. I'm so we what people don't know as you and I've already talked almost two hours because you were kind enough to have me back on music talks are against my first appearance music. Talk ship so I don't want to keep you too much longer, but any final thoughts. You want to share to my listeners. Well won't keep listening because it's not just one of the best springsteen. What how many episodes you up to jet? About three hundred and sixty years, but not that says everything is me. I feel a celebrating my twenty five. Well and I am looking at September will be my fifth my five year anniversary I have been doing this for five years in September and I am. I will probably be reaching out to you. In July August say and I'm not just you like Robin Gibb and a lot of people like okay. What what can we do to celebrate five years, you know. Can you give me a snippet and we do something because I want to celebrate that so his his a suggestion. which you are welcome to I, think the polite word is leverage Jyoti to spell it still so an annot this go out until the twenty fifth of June. But what I actually planning to do is the I'm planning to do as Zoom Quiz and I'm going to do that on the twenty six. which is the Friday in the UK? On. I'm going to do it at five thirty on a Friday night, because historically, that's when people finish work and went for Beer. And I'm planning to do an episode on the Saturday which will be noon time? Pacific. On my former is going to be, it will be all the questions will be related to autism music that has come up in the last twelve months of music talks. Fun. That sounds a lot of fun. You. I will That will be on the facebook page I'll send you details, and it'll be short notice with people, but if anybody, if anybody funds joining that could be. That could be. Good Well while you're here, golden share. How can people find music talks and how can reach to you if they want to join your cue for guests? On I. Look at that the use of the Word Queue. That's that's that's great. Cultural Sensitivity Jesse I think we need bore of our times, but let's let's not go back. Stay where we are. In terms of getting in touch with me, then get on twitter at to pound. My email is music talks Paul Dot. com and in terms of the podcast itself then search on any of the major ups. I'm the only reason my hesitation is you. Probably it's probably best to search on Music Tokes Terry Smith because sadly, there is nine Modem Woman Music Tokes. But let's to get hold, but any problems with that. Drop in email or it tweet. There's also by the facebook page again. Search on music. Talks piled. On what I do is in between the episodes. I not every day, but most as I post additional content, sue videos of songs, selections and other stuff and that gets. Positively. Very nice so. When you think, get live music again. I honestly don't know. I think I think there's two interesting question. When are we going to get it when people going to feel comfortable going to? and you know how much I love live music and you do I mean. Historically I've gone to a couple of gigs a week. And if I'm honest, Jesse the I the idea of Being in this Brilliant Brilliant Small Club in Glasgow with. With discovered with the fantastic name of King, Tut's Wah Wah. but you know. Everybody has played there. I mean going. Go and have a look online. The bands that played there is just unbelievable. It's just one of those rooms, but it's two hundred people, and it can only ever have been described as intimate, and I'm frankly at the moment thinking I think it's GonNa be a while before I'm going to be feeling. Comfortable to go back into my environment so I think it's a real. It's a real challenge I. Think on the Plus side as The opportunity for bands to build more of an online presence. And Interact I, think a lot of people have had their eyes. Open to that. so maybe you know, maybe there will be some goodness, but I think it's. I guess we have to do the springsteen nine two. We had long walk home. It is it is and we will. We. Hope for the best and do things I'm glad to hear that you and yours are doing well and staying safe like. A, congratulations on getting making the first year. I hope you continue to have fun doing this and you continue to keep the having Have people share their musical journeys It is joy and I love listening to it and I am honored that I am a small part of it, and I'm even more honored that You consider me a friend because I certainly know I consider you one like absolutely Jesse. The very very special bond rating this been thank you for being my anniversary edition. It is that is right? It's been a one way to spend the Saturday. Listeners. Please check out talk. If you haven't you can start with any episode They're all very unique. They're all beautiful, and there is so much love and joy shared in that and please reach out to Terry if you want to join him. like I said I I know it it. Not only is it fun but I think it's fulfilling. I think it makes you look at yourself and look at music and how it's affected you and so when I think a lot of ways it can be very healing and Cathartic by having to do this damn list. Are you sure you could only pick one? Are you sure this so well? Done and thank you Jesse, and just one final thing if I may which? Which is you've just touched on it. you know if you look at a lot of the episodes unless twenty five years it's it's many of them are people? I know and I've known for a long time. Some people have not been that long, but the role say a number of people in that I had never met who got in touch and I have to say during the festival of those like this is interesting. But they with some of the most fulfilling, so please if you're at the full map. Hillsdale has Jesse says getting touch because It's nice to do my chums, but meeting New People and discovering music is great. Absolutely so for now stay safe listeners. Thank you as always Terry for being my musical brother everyone. We'll talk you soon and take care. Thank you just. You just heard the fun. Hard rock music. Album, raking Band thinking, joy spreading. Lyric. Readings story sharing podcasts. That is the want the. Settlers. Settling Bruce is part of the southgate media podcast group. The theme for Settlers Bruce was written by David Rosen used by permission.

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Music Talks Crossover - Covers Edition

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

19:14 min | 4 d ago

Music Talks Crossover - Covers Edition

"Hello everyone. Welcome to another episode of settling Bruce Your podcast. All about Bruce. Springsteen has music and mostly Hispanics I am your host Jesse Jackson and joining me today. My fellow podcast or and my good friend Terry Smith. How you doing Terry Great Jesse in as always. Delighted to be here and looking forward to going through the list. Yeah. So what we're doing is Mrs We have not done too many of these but I'm hoping to get other guests to join me the local sports station I listened to used to do a segment every week called biggest show coming into town, and they would list the next song the next artist to coming in the next seven days and it gave them excuse to debate alike. Okay. This is a show. This is someone you should see, and then they'd go around and vote. Okay. This is the biggest show. They can't do that now. And so they came up with bands of your life, which is eleven songs of basically a band I hate band. I think is overrated song underappreciated blah, Blah Blah Blah, and the kicker is you can only use one band once. So for example Song Made Me Fall in love with music and songs that you band that you can list you over and over again, you can't use the same band. and. The joke was right like I could pick spring seen for every one away answers. and. So my son Chris said, well, that's fun dad but you know you should twist this. And make it to wear. Ask these eleven questions and ask for just bruce springsteen songs and then. Let them the same rules. So you can't use thunder road born to run multiple times. You've got to pick which category. So I reached out to Terry he said I'm game. And I assume this took a little bit of a debate in yourself. I'll tell you what I did. which was I sat down and I started thinking about it and then I realized I was going to go down as my want some very time consuming sort of rattle. Then decided to do is actually do it really quickly. That said I'm looking at the Lisbon. Feel pretty good about this. But yeah, it was one of those. This is other tape me. Ten minutes off. Ten months. Beautiful. So. So restaurant with negative I. That I hate or a song, you don't get. it's the former I certainly don't get why he wrote it it Queen of the supermarket I just absolutely Haiti and to to quote the Tom Waits Line of there ain't no devil is just got drunk well to prove that Bruce's only played queen at the supermarket twice and I was present the first time he didn't. Install home and I remember thinking talk about a song slop bank wasted. Yeah. I just I just detested. I. Think IT'S All right. You're not getting it too much argument with be song that you think is overrated. His Might. Be a little controversy where it might get. I it dancing in the dunk. The reason is this. You know we we did our upset about covers and actually I think there are a lot of reading good covers of dancing in the. On I think those shows you the it's actually a good song so you may think to think is rated. I'm really talking about the version on the album. It's so eighty s eight. So Glossy. I guess the video also always put against me and I have to say, and this also may be contentious. I-? No. It's a great community thing in getting people on stage live I feel like I've done it now. Yeah I can see that on. From when he does tour again, I hope we are plays acoustically or drops it from set. There you go. I can see that and you're right. There is an depending on the show it could be a very special moment when he brings someone on stage but others, it can be a little crazy. So absolutely. I always knew and he talks about this I always try to remember that for some people that will be the first of May. Be Show. I just don't want it to take fifteen minutes. And you know and I also wonder I. Often think that Jake is going. Okay. Pick somebody already bruce because I'm I'm having to keep playing over and over. Like he just A. So that. Does. All right song that is under appreciated. Yeah. We talked about this on again the covers Jackson cage. One of my favorite covers if maybe the favorite is by Geico, John Wesley Harding. And I think it just shows I. Think Lyrically, the Song is brilliant. It's bruce writing a little video script all novel in a format song. I love the original version but I, think in the sort of rock arrangement, it's easy to lose the story. He's telling I. Think IT'S A. I think it's one of his first great songs when real characters were starting to emerge in songs so I don't think he gets the appreciation it should. I, agree. Great Song and according to Rob Karnak and JV from Bruce. Springsteen the Alphabet I missed an opportunity by not naming my podcast Jackson Gauge. God. Jason Rage or something? Yes. They said how did you not think of that I would now you tell me exactly. It's all of those things. It's so obvious when someone puts. Exactly All right. So Song that you love. Yeah. I, guess in he probably had the underappreciated stem had I've chosen jack-of-all-trades Bryant. Mainly because it's a song the always reminds me of my mom and Dad On his I again. I think it's a song that gets missed by a lot of people and and I think the richness in the even though if you look at it the lyrics very simple, very straightforward. But for me, it paints a very rich picture and the always be that connection. I was I played it live when I was in New, York and with strings, which was absolutely beautiful. and yes, it is I. Always think of my Stepdad Kenneth and which we discussed him a little bit in an earlier episode we end of he was the type of guy he worked on his own cars he could fix anything in the house and And I just I I absolutely loved it and then by. This I played it for Linda the first time and she psycho Oh. This is the sweetest song what what happened he took a gun and kill them all. Turn dark on me. Absolutely beautiful song and and I I I that's one I had not thought about when I did my list and now I regret A. Breakout. Song you can listen to over and over again. So I've gone with thunder road and you have heard me talk about this before but Nick Hornby did a great but Cole thirty, one songs and. He he talked about the fact that songs for him. Songs aw salute mysteries, and there are songs that once you've figured out the answer to the puzzle, they lose their allure. and. There are other songs that just grow in change over time and it does help that he happens to think that thunder road is the greatest song ever written as do I guess but I think that's that's the secret to being able to listen over and over again is that the song keeps. Coming up with new things. And I. Guess. Going back to dancing in the dark that's another thing that says, yeah I doesn't do things whereas thunder road will always sound fresh to me. Yeah that's that's absolutely. Agree perfect. All right next is. Song. That made me fall in love with Bruce. So I've gone with New York City serenade. The reality is it was the second side of wild the innocent. The radio you know. I've said in a previous podcast that if you think I was like fifteen I'm growing up in Liverpool you know we're working family. The place that Bruce you know Nubia ever been out the country The place that Bruce painted and described felt like an incredibly exotic different, foreign an exciting land. So New York City serenade Will always be very special in I was lucky enough to see him do it actually four times. When was Dan in Australia, was just incredibly special. Incredible. I love that. That's a great answer. Alright. Song that changed my life. I've gone with if I should fall behind and the reason being that that was the first dance when Lauren, I got married. Perfect. That is a great answer. On again, I can remember the first show after we got married. We're actually over in it was important. And he played if I should fall behind so. We've had a couple of times since but beautiful beautiful song and obviously when. The version that he did in the rising to. His well with with the band and again changed all the meaning I thought was fantastic. Yep that song changed my life issue. Absolutely. Song that surprised you. Yeah I've cheated a bit here because my answer is most of western styles. And I mean in a really good way of you know when you listen to something you think Whoa, this is a bit different and those that do I like this does it work And I'm firmly in the camp that absolutely does work and I actually think it's one of the best things he's done but. and I think gates to is massive credit the. An artist that this stage of his career. Can do something different and can surprise people and I think he's constantly done that I mean I was listening to the seeger sessions last night and. I hadn't noticed he actually refers to as all little experiment. But. Most most of western stars was the surprise. And I think that's a great choice and I don't think that's cheating at all I think that for many of us. In some people did not enjoy the album and I respect that. But I just thought he exactly what you said Oh. My goodness here's this guy at this point in his career doing something totally different. And doing it well, not just Oh, I'm GONNA experiment I mean capturing it and doing it actually greatness. All right song that is a guilty pleasure. Yeah. People view this. I've I've the fever. I'm the reason as that you know if you listen to it if I put my critical head on, I can say. Well, one, there was probably a reason. He didn't release it himself and gave it to San side. To you know there is there is an element of the sort of. Called Jazz Lange Ball Bandon. Absolutely. Love it. Could. Great. Literally appropriation. I was listening to it the other day. And Literally Laura Fermi while it was on so I sort of posed the music. She said, how are you and I had to in my very bad singing voice and I'm not going to do here. But singer a little bit of gauntlet fever the. So? Yeah. I can. I. Can imagine someone listen to in going what's that but I just love it. Oh Great. All right. Next last song I wish I had seen lives. So we'll I've seen him do this song live three times, which is incident but I've never seen him to with the full band. It's always been all been him it the piano. So better than not seeing at all but my real holy grail is a full band incident I would just love to see well, I'd actually I actually like him during the hold of Walden innocent but I'll settle for a full bandits. And the last great song to see lies I thought about this, and then you know it has to be born to run. Know again, go to Dunton DOT. com I think for the last probably twenty shows whenever they start To run. The first thing I do is stop looking at the stage and just look around. And That moment when it starts and if I can do a blatant plug for my own podcast music talks my guest. To, upset the Guy ago was lovely geico Dave Stewart. But he told his brilliant story the the first time he saw bruce and it wasn't until two thousand and eight. The his friend had gone off to get bear in jungle then started. And you know he he arrived back just as Jinglin and finished and Bruce St Bam went into born to run and the way he talks about that moment of the east or the big is I. Aligned Max the drums and the two of them going it's Baltimore on. It was one of the areas hers on the back of my neck. Oh. Absolutely. Love that and I love the fact that you just did this quickly I am still in the process of doing mine and I am doing the other man I am just debating like a couple. I know right away. But the others I'm like really debating on where do I put under frode for him to run? What do great choices my friend that was gray area Jerry says. Good. All right. So I'm I wanted do a series of these. So listeners, if you have thoughts go to the I'll have this on my website. I'll have this on my facebook page. The list of the questions you don't have to record you can just write them to me, send me an email and I'll read them or if you want to join me talk about him reach out to me set lesson Bruce G MAIL DOT COM. Terry if someone wants to reach you, how can they? Best way is either twitter on I'm a music talks pond all over email, which also is music talks hold at outlook dot com. And I just want appreciate. 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Cemetery Smith

A Scary Home Companion

58:40 min | 9 months ago

Cemetery Smith

"In small towns scary stories tent linger in Mutate. Small towns sounds are where people settle and raise families so generations stay in the same locale it places like that stories stories can take root they can grow and they can bloom into a life all their own. After enough time passes it gets to be that no one remembers which parts of the stories are true and which parts got made meet up Abilene Vermont was one of those places population eight thousand but but dropping fast abilene never been a big town but now it was dying still. It was the kind of place where everyone had roots and the history of the area blended bright in with the rumor. On top of the small molehill overlooking Abilene was the Smith cemetery and as long as there had been in Abilene the Smith family had tended Ed to the debt. Lots of stories about the smiths over the years unholy practices devil worship ship cannibalism disposing of bodies for the government scientific experiments on the dead mass graves for the freed blacks who had settled abilene after the civil war a circle of gravestones where the devil danced all all kinds of crazy shit but no one in the history of the Smith. Family had generated as many stories as Terry Harry when he was still a boy Terry Smith had killed his parents and then he prepared their bodies he dressed them in their funerary finest and he dug them a pair of unmarked graves. Somewhere deep in the cemetery police could never find the bodies so the boy had never been charged with anything one day. The police came for him. Anyway take him and put him with social services. Terry Smith Life was already gone. He just vanished. And that was it for over a decade and then the lights of the Smith House up on the hill came back on Terry Smith had returned as a grown man. No one knew when or how or where he had been all they knew was that in the light of the moon. Now you could see tall. Gaunt figure standing on the roof of his house on the hill watching the town as it slept the townsfolk said that he hunted victims. They said the just before dawn he still ran his crematorium Toria and they said he was always digging fresh graves. He was a man of mystery and as the town died the stories about him only thrived he had become the bogeyman of Abilene they. He called Him Cemetery Smith. WHOA drinking whiskey in the kitchen telling scary stories around the fire? Music monsters and mayhem. Am Keller's cannibals and colts fearful fiction and furious fact toll tails and terrible truths. This is a scary the home companion abilene. Choline wasn't yet a ghost town but it was long dead and everyone there knew it. This was particularly hard on on the young people. Teenagers are prone to rebellion acts of bad judgment in the first place but when you trap them in a town like abilene where they had no future and no one they knew had a future. There was all the more reason to make bad decisions. which is what led Gretchen Gorman? To go out late at night to a place she should not go with boys. She should not be with Gretchen and stolen a six pack and and half a bottle of wine for courage. She was joining Stan and Bobby and they were going to hop the fence and sneak into into the Smith Cemetery. Word was there. Were some incredible. old-timey crips up there dating back to the beginning of the town. How if you climbed up top and sat on the roof you could look out over Abilene and under the night? Sky Actually looked pretty. Even though Gretchen knew that this was reckless and stupid she just couldn't resist. She could not bring herself to accept the fact that this sack of Shit town could ever looked pretty under any circumstances stances so she had to see it with her own eyes besides even in the worst of the nightmare. Worst case Scenarios Barrios even if all the horror stories about the place where true then cemetery Smith catch them and Bake Bake Them Alive in his hellfire furnace which to Gretchen. Didn't seem that much worse than going back to her house afterward. Her father would no doubt be drunk. Want to know where she went and what happened to his booze. There's one more more thing that can lead to bad decisions for teenagers or anyone else feeling numb and Gretchen who is most certainly feeling. We know so far removed from feeling a connection to anyone or anything she'd started started cutting herself when she was thirteen and now at age sixteen she already outgrown it. Not for healthy reasons. Not because she realized it was harmful and out because it didn't still hurt it because it didn't hurt enough it wasn't harmful enough not anymore. So maybe breaking into the graveyard and getting chased by the bogeyman would cut through the fog or maybe getting drunk and fooling around in that graveyard with these two idiots might make her feel something. Stanton Bobby were idiots. They were cute ish cute enough for Abilene bullying standards anyway. Well cuter not standing. Bobby Work Quite idiots. Let's she thought they had a lot more on their minds. They were well aware of Gretchen. Problems was at home. Stan Bobby knew about her depression. Her cutting her daddy issues. They had several long conversations and decided with all those factors added together. If they got Gretchen alone in gave her a few drinks and a little attention there was no way she could say no to be clear. I need this to be clear. These weren't the type of young men who consider themselves rapists the R.. Word never seemed appropriate to them. They just considered someone like Gretchen lower than them on the food. Chain so to speak on some level Gretchen might have even suspected this. This wasn't a bad decision born of ignorance on her part. But one of self-destruction Gretchen Gretchen. Met Up with Stan and bobby at the end of the footpath behind the old elementary school and they walked through the woods. They were quite Mostly all of them nervous for different reasons. The boys had scouted ahead and they knew of crooked tree that was easy to climb time so they could jump over the fence along the wooded side of the graveyard. It was an easy in an only slightly more difficult Out they found themselves along the edge of a massive field of oddly identical gravestones. The Grass here was immaculate. The graves all swept clean well tended and the markers were we're in rows so perfectly laid out that a hundred stones turned into one when she walked past first off to the left near the front of the place where the crypts once arrived. It was time to break out the party. Favours wine beer cigarettes. Even a little weed combined all made Gretchen a little more relaxed I but it seemed only make the boys more tents. They had altogether stopped looking at her. They were staring at each each other now. Like waiting for the other to make the first move wasn't a seduction. Stan and bobby were Hyenas jackals stalking her. Saddest thing about these boys was it had never crossed their minds. Either one of them to ask her who knows. Maybe a friendly request for sex might have yielded some consensual results. It just not occurred to them this. It was all about getting Gretchen in a position where she couldn't say no or at least if she did no one would hear. You're her what's the matter with you guys. She asked him her then as she studied their faces quickly looking back and forth between them her she sussed out what was about to happen. Listen she started to say but she didn't get any further that before. Both boys gasped and looked behind her Gretchen. Turn to see a tall lean man Dan standing between two of the CRIPS. He was wearing old yellow boots with matching gloves and plastic butcher's smock the yellow was all splattered with old gray meat in congealed. Bits of Gu. That might have at one point. been part of a human being. His mouth was covered with a surgical mask. His eyes with protective goggles and around his waist was utility belt. Overflowing with tools and surgical instruments with long long confidence Strides Cemetery Smith crossed the distance between them and grabbed stand by the shirt collar. He bent down announced so low. Their faces were only an inch apart. He said I know where you live the pretty Blue House with the car out front on blocks that car. That's where you hide. Fight it. That's where you hide what you take and if they find out what you're doing the hurt you won't they boy they he can't see you but I see you go and the boy took off at a dead run. Bobby desperately wanted to follow his friend. You wanted to run but he was too scared. He was petrified. It took everything he had not to piss himself. In front of Gretchen Cemetery. Smith I pointed it bobby and slowly approached as he spoke you after school. Who'll you go out into the woods behind the church where you think you're alone and that's where the man meets you? He gives you money. What do you do for him? Boy You think nobody knows but everyone everyone will know if I decide to tell them. He turned his back to bobby and the boy found the courage to run now. The bogeyman stared down Gretchen. G stared right back. He didn't scare her. She had half a bottle of wine and a joint in her. Nothing scared her except for going back home he walked up to Gretchen. He grabbed her right hand by the wrist. His rubber rubber gloves were damp sticky. He placed her hand palm flat against his chest and he pressed crest there. He said Your father touches. You like this. She gasped watch me. He grabbed her index finger with one hand and he placed the other on the back of a wrist. Right work and act adore hand like this. He pushed back with the one hand and he pulled with the other. It was ever so gentle just a demonstration but it still felt like her wrist and her finger would both snap. He let her go. He stared at her for a moment. His pupils were like pinpricks. The Blue Surgical mask wasn't moving almost like he wasn't breathing slowly. He reached for her breast. She snatched three middle fingers and part at the back of his wrist. No he said one finger is enough. He demonstrated one versus three tour. One you can snap quick. Three three makes a struggle. It shouldn't be a struggle. It should be one. Motion slowly reached for her again and she grabbed his finger and his wrist. And she got it right. He pulled away from her nodded and then walked back towards his house go home. He said if Gretchen experience resonates with you oh because of sexual abuse yours or someone else's it is not your fault you do not have to keep silent island. There is help for you. Please reach out to rain. The Rape Abuse and incest national network. You can get help. Twenty four seven by calling eight hundred six five six. Hope you can go to their website R. A. I N. N. Dot Org and chat anonymously with a trained professional waiting to hear your story if you are compelled to do more to help consider donating financial leader rain. Ninety five cents of every dollar raised goes to support survivors Gretchen. Carter break that night. Her father had come into a room so we hadn't found that she was missing. She climbed back in through. Her window. SAT cross-legged on the window bench staring up at that House on the hill. She wondered word of Cemetery. Smith was looking back at her for the next few days. She could not get him out of her mind. She searched online for Info on him. Got Nothing she checked out. The library got nothing there is nothing since the death. Notices of Terry's parents heritz she started to ask around and everyone she talked to always told the same stories the ones she had already heard that he'd killed his parents. That he was a devil worshipper that he still killed people and he burned them up and his crematorium at school. Both both Stan and bobby avoided looking at her altogether. The way they would turn away when she entered the room gave her a feeling she wasn't used to. She felt almost safe at least from those two assholes. Still Not at home that Friday afternoon. When she got home she found her father had returned from work? Early in knee was already drinking sitting on the couch watching the news and the bad news on TV was scary but the bad news in his drunken gaze was terrifying. You look just like your mother ever tell you that he slurred and when he groped hoped her breast she acted on instinct and she snapped his finger twisting it back until a touch the back of his hand he slapped her with surprising ferocity as she lay on the floor. She listened to him grab his keys. Still swearing in storm out of the House. After he was gone she started to laugh. She looked out the window up towards the cemetery shouted to use seed. Need that after that Gretchen. Father started acting the same way as stand bobby. You're afraid to look at her uncomfortable to be around. Her Gretchen hadn't felt this good in years in the situation between Gretchen and her father was complicated. It was problematic problematic and it was upsetting her mother and run off a couple years ago and after that her father battled Donald pressure and he started using a lot of pills started drinking a lot of liquor. He didn't thank. The Gretchen. Knew he was filling up water bottles as with vodka before work. She knew she thank God. She was a late bloomer. Otherwise all Louis trouble might have started earlier but the first time was when she was fifteen she and her father were watching. TV v on the couch knee gave her the strangest look. He leaned in close and he brushed the hair out of her face behind her ear. He told her how much she looks like her mother. A few minutes later half passed asked out. He started kissing on the side of her neck groping her chest when she told him the next day he cried and he begged forgiveness on his knees. He explained claim that he just. He missed her her mother so much and now that she was a woman she looked so much like her and he got confused refused because of the pills the drinking and he was so so sorry and it sounded like he meant like he believed moved and so she tried to believe too and he stopped taking the pills but it still happened happened again and again he would fondle her. You would hold her down kiss her and then afterwards would cry and he would weep on the floor of her feet and begged forgiveness and it wasn't that Gretchen ever believed him and it wasn't that Gretchen ever thought that he would actually stop but she hoped her. Mother had abandoned them both without a word she had no no other family. She had no one in the world except for this man except for her dad so she tried to manage the problem as best she could but now after breaking his God damn hand now. The problem was actually feeling fucking manage for the first time when she went home after school. She wasn't afraid throughout the next few days Gretchen kept asking around about the man on the hill. Finally she decided couldn't hurt to talk to the law as one of the only lawyers in town her father had been friendly with Sheriff Guerrero for some time and so Gretchen had known him in passing. He seemed like a friendly man. He certainly loved his dogs when she walked into his office before she could open her mouth. The Sheriff said to her. Let me guess you WanNa know about cemetery. Metairie Smith how did you know. She asked well young lady because he called me a few days ago and from the report that he gave me. It sounded like you and Bobby and Stan went up there to get stoned. Is that about the long and the short of Groton started to shut down and regret this whole thing. Don't worry sheriff said I'm not GonNa you tell Your Dad I get abilene small town. There's not much to do. You're a teenager houses. Hand by the way Gretchen. Said I think it's getting better. Okay then so. What are you WANNA know Gretchen? I I bet old Terry freaked you out when he caught you right. He is one weird dude. And Sheriff laughed. You had an entire wall of his office covered with framed. Pictures of him posing with his dogs his bloodhounds. He prided himself himself on those dogs. She asked him about stories about Terry Smith and the sheriff answered her he's a creep. No doubt and I advise you to stay away from him. I mean that those stories people tell they're just stories Terry didn't kill his parents. It was a murder suicide. Terry was the one you found. So he was in shock his whole life he'd spent working in the funeral home so when he found his parents. Dead Ed he just went through the motions. Any processed them like he always process dead bodies. So yes it's true that he fixed him up Sunni dressed them and he buried them. What they don't say is that my predecessor? He dug them up and he had the autopsied seat and Terry did not kill his parents. Terry Smith is just crazy hermit. He lives in his parents old house. He tends the grounds he has like. Fifty cats I swear to God Gretchen. Remember this never never trust a man who prefers cats dogs ever Gretchen. Got Little defensive at that. She said he saved saved me. You know they were going to rape me and he stop them. The sheriff rolled his his is. What did you think was gonNA happen? Going out there with those two bobby and Stan. Dan for Christ's Sakes Gretchen. Don't tell me that you didn't see that coming. I'm not judging okay. It's okay that girls want to explore explore and fuck around. I'd get it's natural but don't act like you didn't know what you were doing. She raged out of there with a storm cloud overhead. Who the fuck was? He'll lecture her. The sheriff putting putting this on her shoulders boys will be fucking boys right. She was livid she punched fence posts all way Home she kicked rocks. She picked up a stick and broke it against a tree. She was tired out in almost relieved of her anger. By the the time she got home she was still a little upset. And perhaps it was because of that because she was upset or perhaps it was because her father hadn't spoken to her in a few days Gretchen didn't notice the empty liquor bottle in living room or the pictures of her mother spread out on the floor. The poor girl she never I saw coming she just gone into the kitchen. She opened up the door to the fridge and she was rooting around for something to eat. When her father came up behind her he grabbed her hair and he ground owned himself against her from behind? Hugh reeked of liquor. He was wearing socks and an unbuttoned unbutton shirt his briefs were polled halfway down his thighs and he was fully exposed. I was waiting for you to get home mindy. He growled Gretchen. Push back and he smashed his cast into the back of her head and she lurched forward. Higer face on the corner of the fridge breaking her nose cracking wonderful teeth. She collapsed to the floor. Her father collapsed on top of her. Mendy baby I need you so bad he pawed at his daughter's clothes. I'm so sorry. Mindy and then. While Gretchen screamed aimed in struggled her father tore her virginity away from her on the kitchen floor and she thought it couldn't get get any worse the pain the humiliation and then he said in a hoarse whisper. I'm so sorry crash. No matter how many tears he had spilled over the years how many times times he said he was sorry she realized on some level that he no he fucking knew what he was doing to his own child and suddenly all the pity that she had ever felt for him turned into acid fucking rage. Her she flailed she pulled away. She pulled him out of her. She crawled across. The kitchen. Gretchen wasn't intending to grab that knife. Somehow it ended up in her hand just the same. Her father was babbling. Baby who baby him. I'm so sorry she turned. She plunged the knife into his chest but it wasn't like TV. It wasn't like the movies at skidded down his ribs and then it caught on the softness of his belly and so she pushed pushed hard until the blade slid all the way through him in the tip poked out the other side. This is how it felt. Dad She whispered. This is how it felt for me. She got up. She stood over her falon father. He was gurgling. Choking being spitting up mouthfuls of blood arms flap but his legs were completely motionless Piss and blood pooled up around him and he reached up for her. She leaned down and she spent on his face. She said Fuck you. It wasn't until he had weed out his last breath. The Gretchen realized she was no longer alone. She looked up. See Cemetery Smith standing in the doorway. He was carrying a heavy black bag. He said we have to work mark quickly. This episode of scary home companion is fictional. But it's based in a scary and very common reality abuse sex trafficking and exploitation happens to children every day in your community darkness. Darkness to light is a nationwide charity working to educate the public and bring an end to the sexual trauma of children. Call eight six six F. O. R. L. I G. H.. T. or text. The word light to seven four one seven four one or visit their website D. Two L. Dot Org Cemetery Smith sat his bag bag down across the room from the body and pulled out a slip on bodysuit next put on a surgical mask and a clean pair of rubber gloves offs and removed a series of tools from his bag tools for the rapid dissembling of carcass. You can't can't see this. He said go pack a bag. She just stared. She was still in shock. What's your name get scratching Gretchen okay? I'm not good at talking talking. I'm not good with people and if I'm being honest I am on a lot of asset right now so me it keeping you comb talking down something that I'm not capable love but I am capable of helping you so I need you to trust Ostby and I need you to go pack a bag. She hustled up to a room and it. It only took a few minutes to grab the things that she would actually need. Then she crept slowly back down. The steps took a seat about halfway the way down to look between the slats of the railing and watch on as cemetery. Smith took her father apart her down to little pieces. He had been filling up a dozen of these thick large plastic bags with slabs labs of wet meat skin Oregon and bone. His work was so fast assured assured his hands rock steady. A skilled butcher breaking a human being down to the most basic elements and then when her father had been packed into bags cemetery. Smith withdrew to his final tool a vacuum sealer. You might as well come in. He said to her clutching ching her backpack to her chest. She stood behind him and watched him heat-sealed a shortage of each bag. And then suck doc the air out of it. Every sealed bag was gently. Placed into the canvas Satchel that he brought with them. What do I do now? She asked him. Well you'RE GONNA have to run your in half to hide what what do we do. Do we have to cover. The evidence would burn the house down. He shook his head no matter what we do. They're gonNA find the blood and they're going to know something happened fire. We'll just make everything worse but they're gonNA find the blood. She said she was starting to panic. Yes and they will know that something bad happened but if they can't find him and they can't find you then they can never know. Walk really happened. His bag was almost full now. Now what why are you doing this. What's what's the bags it's Guerrero and his God? Damned bloodhounds announce this body leaves the house. The dogs are going to follow it. I need to burn it to destroy it to make it ash but I can't leave a trail from here to there. I need a way to move a body without leaving a scent and this is the cheapest way. How did you know what he was doing? She asked him and he looked way from her. He looked to the ground. I was watching. He said I'm always always watching. I was just late. I'm sorry about what he did to you but for what it's worth. You did the right thing Gretchen. They stood inside the back door looking now. Each one of them was holding a bag. Hers contained her whole life. His contained aimed her whole father. Terry wasn't wearing his mask. Now and up-close Gretchen saw that. He had a weak Chin pockmarked face his head was near to shaved but for some reason he still seem crazy he looked at her seem like he never blanket was unnerving. I don't know where to go. She said he told her. Do you remember how you and your friends came in last week. Yes she said. Do you remember exactly. Yes I want you to wait. Wait a few minutes and I want you to retrace those steps. Go exactly that way from your house to mine. Retrace every single step go to the crypts and no further. I'll meet you there. And then he left just like a dark. The patch of wind he just vanished into the treeline. Gretchen stood there and just kept looking out the door for a while. She didn't want to turn around. She didn't WanNa see the house. This shit pile of bricks haven't been a home in two who years so why bothered. Look back to the blood on the floor. Pictures of her mother that fucking plaque on the wall. She made him for Father's Day a million years ago. The one that said I love you daddy. After a few minutes she let herself cry after a few more she made herself stop. She dried her face so that no one would be able to tell and then she went up to the Smith Cemetery retracing retracing exactly every step from the week before she climbed the fence she walked to the crypts and found Terry Smith waiting there for her. He had a shovel digging a hole. There was another shovel Lang next to him. You WanNa help me. He said she dropped her bag. Is this for my dad. No He's in the furnace already ashes to ashes. So then what's the whole four. Well it's for you Gretchen. She picked up the shovel like a weapon. Now now what do you want my help. He said yes. Do you want to get away from the law. Yes of course that I'm going to need you to trust me. I don't understand. She said although she was starting to he told her the sheriff will find your house he will find the blood he will find the evidence he will bring his dogs. The dogs will follow your trail and they will come here no matter where you you go from here. Those dogs will track you. You can't run fast enough. There's only one way I know that I can help you. Oh no please. It's the only way and I won't do it unless you say okay Gretchen. But I want to bury you alive. Just for a couple of hours Gretchen. Had thought about dying. So many times had envisioned the eternal darkness embracing her night after night. It wasn't that hard to agree. How hard could it be right? Eight was just about letting go it wasn't until the hole was dug. The coffin lid close tight in the first thumps of dirt hitting the LID. She realized she had no guarantee whatsoever. That the bogeyman was gonna dig her back up. She might never get out of that box. But of course at this point Oy it was already too late. If you have a child in your life that you care about there is something simple you can and do to help protect them. Listen to them talk to them. Stranger danger is real but the danger from people they they know is even more common if they say a person makes them uncomfortable. Don't dismiss that kids have strong instincts even if they can't verbalize this them don't judge or jump to conclusions. Listen be present create an environment where they are comfortable after telling you the little things so they can feel comfortable telling you the big things if and when they tell you the big things believe them. If you need help learning how to talk to children about sensitive subjects or help learning how to listen you can find information and resources At Child Mind Dot Org help them get the help they need just after nine. Am I'm sheriff. Guerrero rolled up to the front gates of Smith Cemetery. He brought all three of his deputies with them a gun on his hip. Hip and six bloodhounds at his feet. Terry buzzed the gates. Open and sauntered out front to meet his guests I he was wearing shorts. Flip flops and a disgusting yellowed wife Beater under shirt underneath. His skin was out Bino Pale and his limbs I'm naturally hairless let's face it is an off-putting looking individual. Terry was holding a a half empty bottle of beer. And if he didn't stink of weed smoke wasn't through lack of trying the acid mostly worn off but he was still three sheets and stoned as hell also should be because he should be acting naturally. Right Hello Terry. What can help you with today? Sheriff Sheriff said the girl told me about at the other day. Yeah she's missing. Oh is that so. Her father is missing to Terry finished his beer. I don't know what this has to do with me sheriff. There's a lot of blood in their house Terry. The dogs they brought me here Terry looked into the neck of his empty beer bottle ziff searching for for more hidden away he said. I still don't follow you. Sheriff what are you say. I'm saying the dogs Augsburg say the girl came here. Maybe the father to behind him through the door. Terry's cats were going nuts and you'd think this would put off the bloodhounds no dice. These dogs were laser focused three four dozen. Hissing felines. Terry couldn't keep count. They didn't even register these dogs. They were on. The sent. Guerrero stared Terry. He was searching him for a lie. He was searching him for a sign of weakness. Terry kept his face slack. Coffin that size. The one Gretchen was in. You're it holds enough air to keep her breathing for about two hours after that it got real dicey especially really considering how she might hyperventilate. At one point or another two hours might be the upper limit and she'd been down there for almost an hour already took a lot longer to fill a grave than you may think and they'd put it off for as long as possible. Once the sheriff started coming this way. He had to bury her by his clock. Gretchen had about an hour worth of air left laughed reasonably speaking in the sheriff's Long Lang with looks were wearing down his patients but he kept cool cool he kept composed. The sheriff took two of his deputies and the dogs to follow the scent. The third deputy stayed with Terry but Terry ended up following the dogs to like. Hey I want to see what they find. He pointed out to the sheriff. Or if we're Gretchen Bobby and stand climbed over the fence. And then where they had hung out even pointed out the roads. They left from their joint elite in a broken beer bottle by the crypts. She came here. The Sheriff said convinced. Well Yeah Yeah Terry said. She came here last week like you already know. They came here right here. He said this Standing four feet over aggressions coffin. He wondered if the wood of the coffin lid grown from his weight. He wondered if she were to panic now with the sheriff hear her cries. The dogs followed the sent down down the fence to the overhanging tree and then back again to the crypts and no further. See Terry Harry said just like. I said she's not here man. I don't know what you want from me but this girl here. She came here last week to call all off your Goddamn dogs. The Sheriff decided to take a look around himself so he left the dogs to the deputies and he went inside the house it was old it was still filled with all of his parents. Things Rankin musty crawling with scores of ugly hissing using feral cats up on the roof of the house overlooking the town he found eight different telescopes bolted to the edge. There was a lawn chair. A cooler a mason jar filled with hundreds of spent joints cigarettes. This was the place where he sat and watched the town every night. Sheriff found the crematorium was still warm. Were at visit. The bottom of it wasn't enough. Finally he recalled the whole squad. Do the front gates there was nothing. Actionable here Terry. Waved at them as they left. Ran Ran up to the roof and he watched through the scopes making sure the cops were leaving for real and not faking him out and once he was convinced they were gone own. He grabbed shovel and ran back to the crypts Gretchen. had been down there for an hour. Forty five Terry Doug as fast as he could and he was skinny he was scrawny but this kid had been digging graves since he could walk so is bony frame was ropy with muscles under his pasty skin and he dug fast he dug efficient. He tapped his shovel blade on the top of the coffin lid three times a moment later. Three taps came back when that LID cracked open. Gretchen breathed in in the sweetest. Freshest air she had ever tasted Terry helped her out of the hole and she sat on the edge for a few minutes with her feet dangling how many people get to sit on their own open. Grave Terry stood nearby leaning on his shovel watching. Finally she said I killed told my dad. He nodded what happens now. He shook his head. I I I don't know you disappeared for a while. Terry where did you go. His face kind of scrunched up at a sour memory. He said data. You can't go where I went but I know a guy who might help. He knows people and he's good at solving problems. How would you feel about going to Harlem? Gresham was never seen in the town of Abilene Vermont. Again because of that a new local legend was born while some of the townsfolk whispered cemetery Smith struck again and made a father and daughter. Disappear in a splash of blood other people most people the people that knew the Gorman's told a different story. They suspected that the daughter had gone crazy and murdered her dad. She was so depressed Gothic. And did you know that she cut herself. She got obsessed with that old devil around the hill. Somehow he gotten into her head and turned her into an Acolyte Devil worshipper and killer around Abilene from that point on they only spoke of her in hushed tones and and they called her Gretchen Gore. Uh Uh mm-hmm. Aw Aw thank you for listening to another episode road of a scary home companion. This episode is dedicated to the children of the secret. Secret all of you you know who you are and I feel okay. So down to brass tacks. 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Purpose 140: The Hospitable Leader with Terry A. Smith

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Purpose 140: The Hospitable Leader with Terry A. Smith

"Welcome to our you real finding the authentic. You the podcast that focuses on Christians that are active in everyday life. Join in as we speak to everyone from successful business owners to educators to athletes about their faith. And how it helps them reach out and revolutionized those around them to do the same. And now get ready to roar. With your host the voice of manifestation, John Fuller Hayward nation, John Fuller here in today is going to be a special day in the past. We talk about purpose. We talk about destiny we talk about a lot of things. But one thing that we have not talked about or hit in quite a while is leadership and man found somebody today who has not said it, but I'm gonna say is an expert at leadership for what he's done over the years, and he's going to nail it. So that being said Terry Smith ready to do this, my friend. I'm ready to do it. All right. So roar nation check this out, Terry. Smith served as lead pastor of the life Christian church TLC for twenty seven years. He it is a non denominational nondenominational. I knew I was going to mess that up faith community in west orange jerseys serving in the New York City metro area. He's passionate about challenging developing in courage ING leaders, whether they know their leaders are not terrier sharing his insight on leveraging the power of hospitality to be an effective leader through his book, the hospitable leader, welcome to the show Terry great to be here. John, thanks for having me. Yeah. Absolutely. Man. You're a little bit ahead of me in timeframe over there, your New York, and we're hanging out over here in Texas, your I'm glad that you had the earlier time to do this. You know, one of my one of the funniest shows. You're familiar with Paul young who wrote the shack. Sure, he he was on our show about year, maybe year and a half ago and displeasant thinking about it. We were. Doing a seven thirty show. That means it was six thirty his time. And I said, so you know, how you doing this morning? He said the best I can be at six thirty of them. I shot. Well, as not quite what I met. But sorry about that. This is pretty funny. Well, I can't complain. It's nine thirty my time. So I'm good. It's all good. So Terri tell us a little bit about who you are. So in your bio, I didn't really hit really who you are of fact that you've been a pastor for twenty seven years. Why don't you give us a big overview of kind of who you are what you do maybe a little bit about your family. So I I felt called to vocational ministry as a teenager. I had a sense that I well, let me put it this way. I had a very clear sense of calling to the New York City metropolitan area. I had never been to New York City and kinda had a long winding road that involved a about a decade of traveling around the country and speaking to young people youth groups in youth conferences, and conventions, and crusades and local churches until I had the opportunity to assume the pastor of a very small church here in the suburb of New York City west orange New Jersey at age twenty nine twenty seven years ago. So we felt called to do that. And we felt like. We were supposed to spend our lives here and over the last twenty seven year that small group of fifty four people who asked us to be their pastor has grown to several thousand people and. One of our claims to fame in one of the things I'm most excited about is at many people say that this is the most diverse church they've ever seen in the world. And we just launched a new campus in parameters New Jersey. So I'm sitting now on our west orange campus on a beautiful piece of property on a four lane road thirteen miles from Times Square and our parameter campuses about five miles from the George Washington Bridge. So so that's that that piece of it stopped me. If I go too long, I I have a love for leadership. I I love it enough that I earned a masters of arts in organizational leadership here. Fifteen twenty years ago have written a couple books primarily about leadership. Co-founded the New York City leadership center, I have a wife been married thirty five years. Celebrate Valentine's Day last night. And that was thirty seven years from the first time, I told her I loved her, thankfully, she she told me back. Thank you Jesus for that. Right. We have three kids all of them are Dulce. Now doing great aged twenty six to thirty two. I think so. Okay. That's it. I have nothing more to say. All right. Well, let's talk about a little bit about your journey. I'm really interested. Because you you made the comment from a very young age. You had a clear sense of calling to New York, which I think that's a God given thing personally. Obviously it didn't happen right away. Made me think of like the story of Joseph, obviously, like he knew he was called to leadership at a young age in. Kind of put his mouth before before the court got himself in trouble one of my favorite stories in the bible. But. I think that was internal. But obviously it took a lot of years at satellite before you ended up in New York. Will you kinda talk about the process just a little bit of that in how that played out? Yeah. As you learn with me, John everything's kind of a long story. So I'll try to haven't told the story for while saw try to make it quickly. I actually detail the story in my first book, which is called live ten. Which is not the book. I'm thinking a lot about today. But the story is important. So I had this sense of calling when I was probably sixteen seventeen years old. People would ask me, what do you feel called to do with your life? And I would say as a cocky young ambitious guy. I feel called to build a church of ten thousand people in a suburb of New York City now at that time, there weren't very many megachurches. So that number sounded crazy and sounds crazy today, but I went through. I would I told people that all over the place. Then I went through. A very broken time in my early twenties. Maybe mid twenties clear that yes. Yeah. Where? What people said about me John was that? I was very talented. And by that they meant this may surprise your listeners who were hearing me stumble around now. But by that, they meant I was very talented as a speaker. And as a leader I'd already done some things in the leadership space that was getting some national attention. But they they would say of me as I later heard he's keys cocky, and I came to a place where I guess, I would say my ego got me in trouble. And I don't mean moral trouble. I just mean there there were some people who who who did not like me and probably had good reason to and and and because. Because of that. I went through a time where there were a lot of previously open doors at were closing and bottom line is I ended up in my office at that time on the floor with the lights out crying. And I felt like the Lord showed me this unthanked, defied ambition. And it broke my heart because I was very sincere. But I was young and cocky, and and you know, God can't use people who have such a sense of pride about themselves. You know, you even I felt like the Lord showed me that asked that said that the God hates proud look. Sometimes I was saying, well, you know, in my heart. I I know that I'm not all that. I don't feel pride. I know that I need God. And so on, but somehow or another the way I was reading to others was that I was this incredibly cocky, self centered selfish guy, and in that moment of broken. One of the things I heard myself saying was I'm gonna go to New York City, and I'm going to build a church ten thousand people, and I had already made a bunch of plans to file opened on all my dreams around that I got up toward up through in the trash can. And I said God, I will not speak of this again, unless you make it very clear that this is actually what you're calling me to do. And for the next several years. I never said anything about it. I rarely thought about it. And then I had another experience too long to tell about but driving my car down the road, where assault like God's very clearly spoke to me and resurrected that dream when I got out of the cart, my house, I walked in the door, and my wife said that I had a call from so, and so and it was a person for this congregation in New York City asking me if I would consider coming to be their pastor. Mid I literally have goosebumps. I just love the what you just said. Because what I heard was you were willing to lay it down kind of at the feet of Jesus in because you were able to lay down your ambitions in your stuff. He was able to lifted up the way he wanted it to be at correct me if I'm wrong, but I mean, that's really what I see there. No, you're right. You're right. It was you know, that great story of James, and John who essentially said to Jesus we wanna be great. We wanna sit your right hand, your left hand in your kingdom and keep did not chastise them for their Embiid. He just redirected it. He Saint defied it. He said will can you drink the Cup that I drink us. Are. And the person who's great in. My kingdom is the person. Who's the servant of all is long as you're willing to understand that definition of greatness? Yes, you can be great. Hey, everyone. I recently found an app that I want to share with you think wouldn't bless you. It's called church in what I really enjoys the convenience of having great sermons. They have inspirational quick videos Billy to connect with other. And what I love about church show is that it's not about exceed people, and it's not about being perfect. It's about being together where everyone's welcome church home started twenty five years ago, and they had the believes churches and some much about a place in about the people. And that was the thinking behind their new church home in allows you to connect with people all around the world and have honest discussions. Great meaningful relationships decor Spar off from your phone, so church home will always have access to positive springs in strong, people can bite you guys today to join me at the church home for free church. Galab available on the app store or Google play. And you can taxed uplift to five five five eight that's church on C H E R C H M E global again. It's at the app store play or you can. Text uplift to five five five eight. Either you really hit home for me. Because when I felt like when I was young, and I'm just curious let me let me back up real quick. Let me ask you this. So you realized you recognize or people thought, you were cocky, or you had this ego. And I'm just curious did you feel like you were a confident person or did you fell overconfident or did you feel like maybe you lacked confidence that was like an overcompensation of curious. I would say that I was pretty confident. And I think all of this manifest confidence to cover insecurity. So I'm sure there must have been some of that. But I I was I was pretty confident. Now, I I was also it's really important to say, I was very prayerful. I was very sincere. I was very studious. I was very hard working. I didn't I didn't I didn't intend to be and I and I look back on my younger self, and I I was very sincere. But I also I needed I needed to go through a season where my ambition was thanked defied and the truth is, you know, I still have no doubt. But that I wrestle with that. All these years later, always making sure that that my dreams are not. My drinks. You nail something were season. I just I feel like I'm reliving my twenties with you right now having this conversation because I just I recognize that so much when you talk about that. Because when I was younger, we we bought our first business when we were twenty in a just had a lot of ambition a lot of stuff, but I didn't understand how to treat people. I just wanted a very high d get things done lot of Dr lot of vision in I know, John Maxwell, a herd of make it quote or somebody said one time, you know, you can lead people, but when you turn around and nobody's there, you're just on a walk up in what I was doing was is I could get people to go with me. But I would drive in push people so hard for the purpose of achieving a goal that I would wear in drive people out to the point of exhaustion. In therefore wasn't being a leader as being a tyrant. It was just it was terrible leadership because I didn't understand leading serving. Yeah. Yes. So jump into that. Because I think you have a really excited about you know, you talked about uncertified ambition. Because once what does that look like because once we do that. That's really where I feel like we step into the kingdom will let me let me if I may just back up to something. You just said which I think is incredibly important. This new book that I've written that is being really well received all over the country is called the hospitable leader, great environments were people in dreams, flourish. And the hospitable leader is coming out of my own personal leadership experience of both wrestling with my own ambition. But also being exactly the kind of guy that you just described yourself as being when I was younger, and who I can still be if I'm not careful and that is an inhospitable leader. And that's an inhospitable leader is a leader. Who is not hospitable to people that are drains. A hospitable leader is someone who who makes everything about their dreams or even the dreams of organization without paying attention to the dreams or the needs of their followers. And this is a big part of this whole book is that is is that hospitable leader creates an environment where people flourish in. So many versions of leadership is is is not that's not how people experience leadership they feel dictated to they feel used. They feel manipulated. Well, I've had a lifetime of learnings and experiences and enact study that's helped me create what Jack Welsh the former and very hard driving CEO of General Electric calls a meaningful new approach to leadership, and it's this idea of how to lead people hospitable. I love that. I thought I recognize his name when I saw that when he was endorsing your book, where do I know that named for the Nike? Just nailed it. Not exactly when you said that. Okay. How do we tie? In area of destiny with your book on leadership or we can just dive right into leadership a good either way. You I'm letting you take the lead will let me let me talk about it in the context of the book because I write quite a bit about this. Okay. So the hospitable leader is organized into five welcomes, and the I welcome is called home and home is the idea that a leader can create an environment where people feel welcomed or they feel home, and when people feel welcomed than they're much easier to lead. So it it's in fact, it's it's impossible to lead. Someone who hasn't been welcomed in a lot of times when people think about hospitals, they think about physicality, and that's important that is an important part of it. But this is not a book about. How to create a physically hospitable space though, that is part of it. You know, you walk into Starbucks. The physicality of the place is important I discussed that. But it's it's it's about creating physical spiritual emotional attitudinal and communicative environments where people feel welcomed whether hearts are warmed and where they can more easily be lead. Now, the the second welcome is called strangers in. That's where I talk about. How that when we when we welcome a diversity of people to the table. We have the ability to expand our lives and expand our influence in in a in a multiplying effect. And this is where I talk about how we've built a church that many people consider one of the most verse churches in the world racially, ethnically nation of origins, incredibly rich and famous people. Poor people trying to get their GED's people from all kinds of backgrounds in terms of denominations. So anyway, I I won't get into here will, but but this is this is where I talk about. What is it mean to be able to welcome the stranger, meaning someone to whom you are strange, or who is strange to you into into with someone who you may not have even have talked to before while I'm surrounded by people twenty five years ago. I probably wouldn't have even known how to have a conversation with and in the third and now we're doing amazing things together. And we've been doing it from many many years. So I share my thoughts on that. In the second. Welcome the third. Welcome gets to your specific question, which is dreams. So I have this this whole thing around the promise of Jesus which was given in the context of a leadership talk. And I on this at length in the book where? He promised in John chapter ten verse to in life and all of its fullness, or as the message has it more and better life than you ever dreamed us and in that tall. He's making a distinction between good leaders and badly. There's or good shepherds in bad shepherds, and he calls himself, the good shepherd any introduces a new kind of leadership what I call a hospitable leadership, which is where he said that he would lead people to more life than they ever dreamed us. So I talk about the kind of leadership where the leader gets up every day. Not just asking the people they lead to pursue the leaders dreams. But we're the leader is just as invested in the dreams of his or her followers. So in other words, if you hang out with me, I am going to help inspire you to the life. God Dreams for you. This isn't just going to be about my dreams. It's not just going to be about the dreams of the organization that I'm leading. This is one of the dreams of the organization is to see your dreams. Come true. And part of that discussion, then leads into this idea of area of destiny that do I need to take brass and give you opportunity to ask a question or shell man. I'm taking now keep going. I'm thinking notes, I'm loving this keep going so. When people know that you as a leader are invested in their dreams at whole thing of the high de dictatorial leader who runs over people to get what they dream for that that goes away. In fact, people even put up with some of your hygiene ass-, and they'll jump in with you to to help make you in the organizations dreams, come true. If they know you're getting up every day saying, I'm I'm going to inspire you to the life. God dreams for you. And a key way. We get it that here as we talk a lot about area of destiny area of destiny is the the the God predestined framework of our lives. It's what our lives are supposed to be about. And again, there's a lot of theology around this. And and stow. Oris and again academic learnings that have gone into this idea. But essentially, the this always surprises people, and I say this, but I do not believe for here. Here's the one of the implications. This idea I do not believe that anybody can be anything. They want to be. Agreed. And I think it's a mistake when people try to inspire. Let's say kids by saying that you grow up and be anything you want to be. No, you can grow up and be anything. God made you to be. Well, I wanted to play basketball Terry until I realized I wasn't getting past five six. That's a that's a great point. So I I often say, you know, I can't be the king of England. Right. I couldn't play in the NBA. Now, I grew up in Deanna. I can shoot like crazy. And and I'm I'm even big enough perhaps to play, but but Mana. Can't jump to save my life. I jumped like a white guy white, man. So what I have to do is. I have to figure out what my life was meant to be about. And then I live there now that can be geography and for me that includes geography, but it's the whole thing it's geography its vocation its relationship. It is living in mon- area of destiny and within my area of destiny. Anything is possible scripture talks about the bounds of our habitation. The apostle Paul talked about his sphere of influence. We we have a place where we're meant to be the sweet spot of our lives. And so area of destiny is the if you picture VIN diagram the way that we get destiny as we ask questions about mission, which is to say. Say what do I sense God's calling to be on my life? What what what is the contribution that? I'm supposed to make in this world. That's an alignment with who got is. And what he's doing in the world. So my dreams have to align with God's dreams. The second question are questions of concerning gifts, which is to say, you know, what what am I gifted to do? And what am I gifted to do that that has been turned into skills that give me the opportunity to make a unique contribution in the third thing is passion. What do I love to do and the intersect between mission gifts and passion becomes our area of destiny? And it was it was this idea. I was speaking at a church in New York City a number of years ago now and Jack Jack Welsh former CEO of General Electric and founder of the Jack Welsh school of management and his wife Suzy who's the former editor of the Harvard Business Review in a bestselling author in her own, right. We're sitting there, I didn't know it, and I talked about this idea very of destiny, and they became such big fans of that idea that that they actually did a television interview where they talked about how that their kids were so weary of hearing them talk about area of destiny that that they walked in the house a few days ago when one of their kids said, hey, my area of Destiny's doing fine today. How's yours? Because the in Suzy who's career expert now on the today show. And and also does that kind of thing on CNBC. She says this is one of the best career ideas that she's ever heard because once someone gets that, right? Then then, you know, there are multitude of things to talk about and to learn about and to believe for impre for in work towards once. We get the area of destiny question. Right. What is my life supposed to be about you talked about where on three on dreams on the five welcomes you wanna hit foreign five. Sure. Loved to the fourth. Welcome is communication. And this is where I I talk about what hospitable communication is. I think that one of the major problems that we have in in our world today. Obviously as the terrible polarization where people are trying to share their truth, or in a Christian context the truth in a way that other people cannot receive. And this is this is the whole idea of hospitable leadership. I create an environment where someone may be even someone who has strange to me into whom I am strange is willing to sit. And listen to what I have to say. And I believe that that a hospital beleaguer because he or she really loves people is committed to speaking truth, we never compromise truth, but we're committed to speaking truth in a way where people can hear us that could be a conversation with an employee around a performance review, or that could be in my context preaching the good news about Jesus and away that that debt declares him as the way the truth and the life and the only way to come into relationship with the father. But all of us have a tremendous need to speak truth, whether that small t truth, you know, what I think what I feel, you know, my, political, ideas, etc. Or whether that's capital T truth the truth about Jesus, we have an obligation to speak it. But we have to create environments where people will hear us so much of the Christian church right now is doing such damage to itself and alternately to the world because we've created environments where we only speak to ourselves. We are not they're not environments of welcome. And I think it's tragic, and so, you know, that's that's a small slice of of of what the section on communications about. But quick I'm gonna catchy home in a cut you off because you you're talking about environments allot in an even read that in some of your summary. So why don't you dive I still wanna hit five because I wanna make sure we hit all five points. But why don't you dive in a little bit of what at environment looks like had a create that environment. Whether it's communication or filling making people feel welcome or. Teaching what you said little to your big teachers, how do I create that environment? Why think that we pay attention to? Let's limit it to these to these five things, I think we pay attention to physical, environment spiritual environment, emotional, environment, attitudinal, environment and communicative environment. A beautiful way to get this. So so the whole idea of the book is premised on the the fact that Jesus was the ultimate hospitable leader, he constantly lead in environments of hospitality. It's really amazing John when you look just look at the meals of Jesus he is constantly speaking truth in some kind of a hospitable setting whether that's the wedding Qena where he first showed his glory. Whether that's the fact that in the gospels, he's always going to dinner parties of both with centers, and and and and and hypocritical religious leaders the last supper is where he gave one of the most important leadership talks in history, and I'll come back to that. If we have time you look at the breakfast that he cooked for Peter pose. Resurrection where they reconcile their relationship in Peter went on to change the world, you look at the fact that the the new age the next age is going to be launched with a huge wedding feast. So I use the table and the feast in the meal in Jesus in the midst of all of that as a metaphor for creating hospitable environments. One of the one of the key. And it's in these environments, if you'll notice constantly, it's a knees environments that he makes the meal about more than the meal, but he uses it to say something bigger from a leadership communication perspective. Look this was important him. If they didn't have food he'd create it. So so so a great way to get this. And again, this will take just a minute, please. I beg you to interrupt me. If I if I if I know Madam love and era. I'm hanging on every word you're saying I've been diving into leadership for the last couple of months, and I've been reading one of John Maxwell's books to my kids just for on this topic. So new your it's all yours, my friend. So so I challenge you on the Maxwell stuff, and obviously maximum fabulous. You know, Maxwell says leadership is influence will what I say is that that hospitable leadership is a precursor to influence in other words, I. The technical definition of hospitable leadership is this a hospitable leader creates environments of welcome where moral leadership can more effectively influence in ever expanding. Diversity of people, John you can't influence people who aren't at the table. That's good. You can learn everything in the world about influence, but if you can't create an environment where people are actually showing up to be influenced. And if you're not as I talk about warming their hearts and so on so anyway, the environment thing I got sidetracked with. Good. So the last supper if you look at it from pure, leadership perspective is really amazing, obviously, there was a lot more going on than me trying to extrapolate leadership principles from it. But nonetheless, I argue that Jesus paid attention to physical spiritual emotional attitudinal in communicative environment. And this is how first of all he's getting ready to have the most important dinner in history. He assigned his two most important leaders. Peter Jon to go find the place where it was to happen. And he gave them very specific instructions as to how things were to be set up, including the room was to be large enough. It was to be furnished appropriately they were to prepare a meal, which was no small thing for Peter Jon these two guys to prepare Passover dinner. And and you know, it was a dinner for twelve plus one. So. He paid attention to the physical environment where this meeting was supposed to happen. And it's very clear when you look at this in the gospels that this was very important to him. There are several verses given to him telling them the kind of physical space in which the supper was supposed to happen. Secondly, he paid attention to spiritual environment. The gospel of John gives five chapters to the last supper five chapters either sitting at the meal or on the walk from the meal together semi and and you know, comprises of a large part of John's gospel. And so this is this is this is an important thing. That's going on early in the story John's gospel talks about how that Jesus knew who he was in relationship with the. Whether he knew that authority had been given to him that he had come from God, and he was going to God. And I talk about how that we create spiritual environment by knowing who we are in relationship was a father. I describe that as the state of being at home when we are at home when we know who we are. And we know the who we are nece is coming to us because it came from the father that is not self generated confidence, but it is a security in our relationship with God, we create spiritual environment that feels really good to people Thirdly. He created he paid attention to emotional environment. John's gospel says in one translation early in the story that at that dinner. He showed his disciples the full extent of his love. And this is something that a hospitable leader does a hospitable leader finds a way to let his or her leaders. Know how much they loved them. Rodney ferris leadership gurus done a good bit of academic work on this particular, subject writes about organizational love, and there's this understanding that really has evolved a lot in recent years that a leader figures out a way to constantly be conveying. His or her love to his or her followers, and it is amazing. The kind of welcome people feel when they know they are loved by the leader. And then he pays attention attitudinal environment. This is where he wrapped himself in the towel. The servant got down wash the feet of his disciples, though. He knew he had all authority from God, he puts himself in the place of the servant, and he serves the needs of his followers. And again, this is. Part of creating a hospitable environment is that you treat your followers like guests in your home. You you find ways great and small to serve their needs. And when people. Work in an in an organization like that when they when they attend meetings like that where where it's clear the leader. Who is who who is paying attention to environment that the leader sees themselves as being there to serve them. Well, I mean, obviously, that's classic servant leadership. But there's more to this than servant leadership. Because I say creating the environment is a precursor to every other kind of leadership again, you can't serve people who aren't there and then finally communicative environment. And this is where Jesus he gives a leadership talk for the ages. And if you study what Jesus said at the last supper from beginning the end from the perspective of leadership talk. It's just amazing the engages in team building. He lets them know that he's gonna share details with them of of of the business. I'm going to you know. You know, longer for instance, you're no longer servants because I've called you friends, and I'm going to tell you the father's business. So that you can understand what's going on here. I mean, that's that's that's hospitable communication. Let me let let me let you guys in on. What I'm thinking on what I'm doing? Let me make sure my stakeholders know, what's in my heart. He he tells him he's going to hold them accountable for results, I chose you. So that you go bear fruit. So this isn't just Coon by we're not doing this just so everybody can feel nice. We got it. We're gonna do something together we have a mission to fulfill and he tells them they may even have to lay down their lives for. But man by the time he's finished with them. They're ready to you know, run through a wall and jump over a troop. So all right. That's my little primer on kind of a multifaceted approach to what it looks like to create an environment where you can lead people. Well, that's a whole. It's a whole talk in it self, isn't it? That's good stuff. Okay. So we did five welcomes we we were on four. We were talking about communication, which got us into the environment. So we still have five on the welcomes the fifth. Welcome is called feasts. And so one of the ways Jesus described as leadership domain was as a feast that king through for his son. I just love this as a metaphor. So so what did he say exactly he said the kingdom of heaven is like a wedding feast that king through for his son, and I've just early in the book, I ask the question. What would look like for our leadership domain to feel like a feast, Dr followers? Well, so when I wrap the book up in the fists, welcome I talk about how that in order to throw a feast we have to live a feast. And this is where I talk about how that we have to, cultivate, our own happiness. The secret of that is is is hope, and I talk about ways that I try to do that. And how that when we when we are fundamentally happy people that we we create the conditions for success both for ourselves and for others people. Don't wanna follow a leader who isn't living a feast, they they wanna follow a leader. Who who who is? So those are the five welcomes. Man. Now that's been one of the best shows I've done in a while. I think it's kind of one of those good God divine things I've been like I said, I've been diving a lot into leadership lately in I think that has a lot to do with leading our organization in wanting to do talked about is being kinda in that area. Spheres influence known our area of destiny in just making sure it's been on my heart to make sure the including my family starting with my wife, my kids and everybody around me that I'm creating environment where people succeed will. That's what hospitable leadership is about. And I think I think you'll enjoy the book John a really do Joe. Yeah. I'm super excited about it. So you got me you got me all over that one. Okay. Terry is we wrap up to show? There's a question that I love to ask that I never skip. And that is this Terry if you could go back to the younger, you what advice would you give yourself, and you can't change anything. You're not going to change outcomes or anything like that. But you're gonna give yourself a pep talk. What age would you go back to what words would you? Give yourself. Well. I was asked this on one of their podcast a few months ago. And I think it's a great question. And I'm gonna answer it the same way though. It sounds like I'm just following up on what I just said. But I think I would tell myself to to be better feasting. I was so sincere, and so zealous and passionate that. I kind of. At least toward myself was very legalistic. And I wanted to change the world and change it tomorrow. If I had it to go back. I would have started working rhythms of feasting in my life better. And by feasting, I mean, you know, relationships honoring a sad day taking vacations learning how to play golf, I never had any problem working hard. But it it. It's taken me a long time to learn how to play hard and relaxed hard and to understand as Stephen Covey says that if I'll sharpen the saw I can cut down a lot more would. And and so I think I would just say to my younger self relax a little bit. That's great advice at something. I'm trying to learn myself right now kind of with you in that. I have no problem working. I work sixty seventy hours a week, not winking. I love doing it. But then you look back what I found in my life. I finally started finding that rhythm is as I start getting really depressed, emotional and all of a sudden, Mike wise the world ending today in that. I look back and realize that I haven't rested in haven't done anything in quite a while into emotionally physically just burnt. You can't you can't get to that place. And that's that's why I close this book with this idea of feasting. And what does that mean? And how do we how do we how do we call to vacate in in a biblical sense a life where we are happy? Because happiness creates the conditions for success. I mean, all the studies say that when we're down and depressed discouraged and emotionally empty, and you know, when I get like that I get depressed. Well, my leadership's not affective and my parenting is ineffective and my husband ING is ineffective. So absolutely. All right. So Terry, I'm giving you last words as we wrap up the show piece of partying advice. You gave yourself already. How would you? What would you leave with our audience? I think I would say the most important thing just from a life perspective is to find your area of destiny and exploit all the possibility there, and you know, that's not a static place. That's that's possibility exists in our lives and. Yeah. So Terry once you let her listeners know, if they want to have you speak in most get in touch with you in most importantly, where do we find the hospitable leader? Yeah. Thanks. So we've we've opened a special page on our website for your listeners, John and and on that page were offering a the hospitable leader audio book for fifty percents off. And and then people can you know, they can go to go to my website and the page we've opened for you, and they can order the book from anywhere. In other words, we had links all the major retailers all of whom of course, carrying the book. And and if they want they can become a part of the hospitable leader community where they can hear from me every once in a while to sharing some of my ongoing thoughts about the subject, so they can go to Terry A, Smith dot com forward slash real. So that's. Terri T E R Y A Smith dot com forward slash real R E A L, and they can access the the pages been open for your followers. They can get the audio books at fifty percent off or they can buy a book, or, you know, thankfully, we have lots of people lots of leaders who were buying this book for their team's going through with their teams pastors who were doing sermon series around it, and we have all those resources available for anyone who who would like to utilize it fantastic. Ordination just so you know, we will have that on our show notes. And we'll also be posted on our Facebook page as well. So if you're driving down the road, you miss that you need it. 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Blood

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Blood

"In. Two thousand one. Two teenage boys. were. Abducted by a madman. Calling himself the Harrow specs. He didn't kill the boys. Instead. He sliced open their bellies. And tied their guts together in knots as tribute to the dark gods at haunted him. The boys. Grayton Jones. In Terry Smith. Somehow. Against all the odds. Survived that. Ordeal. What, happened to them next. Wasn't about guts? It was about blood. D-. Drinking whiskey in the kitchen. Telling scary stories around the fire. Music monsters and mayhem Keller's cannibals and colts. Fearful fiction and furious fact toll tails and terrible truths. This Is a scary home companion. You. You're. You are slowly. Waking. Pulling yourself up out of this. Deep. Dark druggy Hayes. Narcotic gravity's polling on your arms and your legs. On the edges of the fabric of your mind. It's wrong though. feels. A natural. So you poll against it and you push right through it. To the other side. into consciousness. You're in a hospital room. Everything. Pale. Dimly lit white. eggshell drapes ivory walls. Alabaster window sills bone baseboards Pearl Gowns. Cotton bandages. So, many bandages. Wrapped so thick. Where are you? Did. You get here. Where had you been? Thank. Remember. You and the other kid. Your guts pulled out. nodded. And that kid. He got you out of it. Afterwards. You laughed you fell down hugging your guts dangling and then. You're here. Now And there he is that kid is across the room. You're the only two in the room. He's dressed just like you. Loose hospital gown tight gauze. Touch medium rare, pink in the center. Needles in your left arm's IV drips and sailing bags. Monitors flickering. Green dots bouncing and even though the sound is turned off. You can still feel the rhythm beeps in the pulse in your ears. The only two beds in the room and the both of you. Holy. Shit. You're chained. To the bed frames. You I see them on the other kid who's still Sleeping peacefully unaware of handcuffs securing each wrist. And you find yourself similarly bound. You look around the room. You see no clothes. No phones. No emergency coal buttons. There is a door. A normal hospital room door like any other with a large plexiglas window set in. On the other side of that window. You can see the back of a COP's head. He sitting on a stool just outside the door. Doing a crossword puzzle on a clipboard. He does not turn around to look at you. Not even when you shout at him. The drugs are still holding onto your fingers and toes gently. Tugging you back down into the comfort in gray empty. Start to take you when you let them. You under you don't even. Realize that you're fading until the kid on the other side of the room starts hissing at you. And that snaps you awake for real this time. Time. Space Fade like the pulse to throbs so painfully in your belly. When you look at the dressing on your abdomen. A member it a fresh as if for the first time seeing your stomach, cut open in a neat little X. intestines pulled out ever. So gently with a little wire hook. Graydon. The kid says again. Terry. His. Name is Terry. You remember now. You just met him. But in that time. You came to feel like you knew him. Deeper. More intimately. Than, you have ever known anyone. You have felt his pulse in your belly. Where are we? He asks you. He's just shake your head. Your tone still feels thick in your mouth. Home. HAVE WE BEEN HERE How did we get here? You keep shaking your head you know as little as he does. Why are we? Here? He says. And that one shakes you. That one seems like the only question. Worth consideration. Why have you been segregated separated seclude insecure lightness. At several points doctor, a nurse would come into the room together. They would look machines they were write down notes they would check IV's and rattle handcuffs, but they would not respond when either of you spoke to them. Like. Ghosts. Pale blue scrubs and surgical masks. They did their jobs and silently faded away. You Sleep. Only, fitfully. You have no idea how much time is passing. And then. Through the window in the door, you see that cop get up and leave. To men are standing outside. Looking at you and talking softly to one another. One of them is a fed no question about it. Dark suit. Deep set eyes slender face. The other one. Is a priest. And the room. Graydon, Jones. Terry Smith. I am. Terribly sorry for these accommodations. We just needed to be the first ones to talk to you after what happened. We also needed to make sure that you were safe and protected. This is my partner Special Agent Bill. Handel. My name is brother. Frank. Rourke. We are looking for the Harris specs. And we need your health. After a memorable twelve hour car ride. Late to handle arrived at the Smith cemetery in Abilene Vermont. Where they released their to charges. They drove to the rear gate. Away. From prying eyes. Cut The headlights before getting out of the car. They all shook hands. Handle thanked Terry for the information and said. You know. I worked with your dad once or twice. rourke pulled Graydon into an awkward, hug. Such pleasure to meet you after all this time. Perhaps our paths will cross again one day. Boys scampered over the gate and into the waning darkness. As. The two men drove away. An hour later day broke as Terry and Graydon sat in lawn chairs on the roof of his family home. Watching the sun rise over Abilene. Come on said. Let's go to sleep man. We can't let anyone see us up here. Agent, handle had offered to go speak to the sheriff on their behalf to keep him away but. Great and Terry both decided that it would be better if no one at all new they were here. All, they wanted all they needed was seclusion in time. To rest. He'll up. To decide what they should do next. Both of them had previously been on the run each for very good reason. That they had been in such close proximity to one, another was Qu incidental that the Herro specs had snatched them both up with sinister intent. was something more than happenstance and they both knew that. That they didn't know what it meant. They went inside the musty. House. which had been sitting empty for some two years now. They drew the shades they threw blankets over the drape runners and they hold up for a while. There were pills to take. Their were written directions for changing. There were timetables and detailed explanations. But there were to be no follow up visits with doctors. Although. They were both on the run from something. Neither of them would ask the other from what? They were brothers and secrecy. Hiding in the shadows afraid to say where they had come from or where they might go. They watched three available channels on the old rabbit eared, black, and white TV the food out of. CANS nothing. But cans. Played Cards. Sometimes they talked. Usually they didn't. Time dragged. They needed to rest for a few weeks and. They knew it and neither of them were in any rush to make their next move anyway. So they tried to be content with just killing time. But. That didn't last long. Grade and was curious by nature an avid reader and writer even at age. Fifteen. This was of course, the way of his family they were. Historians Occult Documentarian 's. So, he was naturally drawn to the old books, files and hand written journals in the basement of the house. Terry head his pursuits as well which. Seem decidedly sketchy her than reading. At, least at first. You. See. Even, at age fifteen, Terry Smith was a regular user of L. S., D.. He preferred. peyote. But that shit was hard to come by in Vermont. So usually it was. While Graydon was lost in the books and the dead of night. Terry would hobble out into the graveyard. He had little buried treasures all over the place because. He knew the cemetery like the back of his hand, right. So burying valuables. Seem to be the best way for him to keep things safe. He has left several cash as of drugs all over the grounds. Found the one that was nearest and most shallow. Several sheets of blotter acid which had been kept at a relatively consistent temperature and humidity for two years. Inside a vacuum sealed bag. It might have lost some of its bite. But there sure was a shitload of it. The next night. After a dinner of minestrone soup and tuna fish. They adjourned to the roof to watch the town's sleep. Terry had brought up a couple of telescopes. But Graydon was not interested in peeping. He just liked looking down at the town. It was a place he was learning a lot about. Those books journals went back to the founding of Abilene. One of those journals. Contained name that was familiar to him. Graydon? Jones. A story that he had actually heard as a young boy sitting on his mother's knee. The antebellum generations Graydon. Jones had led freed men and women to a better life up north to the sleepy town of Abilene. Great and had yet to disclose any of this historical evidence to his new friend. Terry. He still felt that he needed to know more. As they sat on the roof that night. Each. Lost in their own thoughts. Terry ate half a sheet of acid. You. Believe in. Ghosts grade asked. I do. Just like that. Yeah. You've seen ghosts. Yeah. Wow. Terry whistled. This conversation is not going at all like I pictured. So let me ask you this. Can you see ghosts right now? No of course not? Have you seen the? Terry nodded. He rubbed his hands against his knees. Great NASC. Do you see them now. Terry, shook his head. Not yet man. But I will soon. It was the acid in his blood. Surging through his brain. Did something to his perception? and. Allowed him to see what was all around him all the time. What's Around all of us. The restless dead. Spirits left behind or lost souls not aware that they were dead or too afraid to move on. The first time he tripped the first time he had. Ghosts. Terry had seen his parents. They didn't have the wounds from the murder suicide they look. Nice. Happy. They smiled at him. and. Then walked away. And he never saw them again. Of course, he didn't need to. He realized that they had stayed behind just to say goodbye to him and it gave him a real sense of peace. To know that they had moved on. It also proved him that maybe there was something worth moving on to. Sense. That night the ghosts always gave him comfort. And combed his nerves. The moon traced its way across sky. Terry set quietly. And watch the spectral shapes start to move through the endless dark of the graveyard. Finally. He felt like he was home. In the graveyard. Explain Zach. Weeks past. Gradually their strength was returning their wounds. Over. Quite nicely. Terry spent most of every day asleep and most of every night. Up on the roof watching ghosts. Graydon did a lot of reading. A lot of research on Abberley. You need to get around town at some point. He hoped their library was big enough for his purposes. Graydon for more references to his forebear but. You're riot Smith had only met him the one time. It had been in the town hall as southern. Man had presented a proposal to local leaders. Reading the words of the old dead white man. Cut. Deeper. Than Great and wanted them to. Although European Smith's description of events was brief. It was dismissive and condescending and dripping with a venomous contempt. Your I had apparently been against leading a black man into the town hall at all. Other than possibly to clean it. That is the sort of man he was. Graydon read more. He dug deeper, but that Graydon Jones had never settled in Abilene, he'd never started family. He only came through long enough to bring new residents to town. Still. It was fascinating reading. He wasn't learning a lot about his own family. But he was learning a ton about Terry's family. Like. A lost little pocket of history. Now, that he was a bit stronger. Terry was leaving the roof. In, spending all night walking through the cemetery grounds. Pretty slowly. The used a hand carved walking sticks his dad used to carry. He. Leaned on heavily is he toured the long rows of tombstone. Would go for hours on end. Sometimes coming back just as the sun rose. You never spoke much about it unless great. Asked. But great and found that he usually didn't like the answers. Terry was a good guy. He had proven himself in Graydon's is that's for damn sure. But he was Sullen. Withdrawn. And sometimes, Terry was just downright fucking creepy. One night. After dinner of canned Ravioli and green beans. Over a game of Rami. Terry asked a question. You've been reading my old man stuff. Yeah You find anything interesting. Great and said Yeah you could say that. I never met any family besides my folks. They were. You know. Good people. Decent I heard people say. Then, Dad did what he done. Have you. Read something. Maybe explains why he done that. Because I'd like to know. Great and shook his head. I haven't. Everything I found so far is just stuff for his dad and Grandad, but I'm still reading. Later, that night. Terry had another question for Gray. Will you take a walk with me please? I think I heard something. Out. And I don't know if it's the acid or that ghosts. Or if it's for real. Graydon was indeed for walk. Everything was healing so nicely and he knew that he needed to start moving around more. You've been here a while he was going to need to leave sooner rather than later. Is it far he asked. Yeah Terry said. But we'll go slow. Here. And he gave him the old walking stick. In the deep of the graveyard. The Night Moon Louis. The Sky Crystal Clear Blue Black and the ground was blanketed in shadows thick as fog banks. Graydon could only see a few feet in front of him. You watched the ground carefully. He could sense the neat orderly rows of stones on either side of as they walk. and. The cemetery seemed to roll on four ever. The darkness was so heavy. So dance that he couldn't be sure how far they'd go and he couldn't see any landmarks. But he did trust the Terry knew where they were going. Do you see them Terry asked. Raden stopped and. Looked around. No I don't see anything. seriously. Jesus. There so clear. Fi print it's not like usual. Graydon held him by the shoulders. Are you having some crazy acid trip on me? Dude? No. You. It's you man that goes out tonight more than I've ever seen some of them like it's. It's like they know you. Are you famous it's like they recognize you. They're trying to get your attention you don't see them. Since his eyes were showing him nothing. Grayton closed them every reached out with his other senses. But still there was nothing. There were no whispers in the ether. He got no gooseflesh. No. Morbid odors. Although Terry saw ghosts abound great and felt absolutely nothing about this was a nice calm night. But that didn't mean that he didn't believe Terry. Wasn't sure how or what or why but Graydon had come to be sure that Terry was able to see. Something Maybe, it was ghosts or guided hallucinations. He wasn't sure yet. But he was sure that Terry wasn't lying. So he asked. Tell me what they're doing. Terry, said there Oh wow. When they move, it's. Like spilled milk in the air tart it's. A couple of them are pointing. I think this way. Graydon tried to keep them focused. What do these people look like? They look like people. Black, people. Mostly This isn't where they're buried though is it Great Nasty I'm. Terry was genuinely clueless. Sure. Why not the properly buried anywhere just like anyone right? Graydon held his tongue. Now was not the time or place to share what he had learned. Okay are come on great this way. I, see them trying to get you to come this way. Terry lead in grade and followed. Okay. There's A. Damn Man. There's so many coasts. Right here in this one spot. pissed e you to. Great shook his head. Not Me. You. Know you're a Smith. Terry was still wrapping his head around what that meant. When he heard the sound and he stopped short. At distant sound. At one eight hurt the night before. The one he brought great and out here to confirm. It was a heavy pounding like fists against an old wooden door. Accompanied by the most awful pain shrieking. The sound of madness. Rage. It felt so close but. So far away almost like. It was welling up through the earth from deep underground. Do you. Hear it. Terry asked. Graydon might not have seen the ghosts. But he heard this screaming as clear as a bell. coming. From right under their feet A. That night they had a long and heated discussion. About digging up that grave. Cooler heads prevailed. Thanks mostly to the fact that. Any serious attempt at Old Digging Would probably cause internal damage. They still needed more time to get one hundred percent. Terry obsessed over it. Even stopped taking the acid so that he could go out there to that spot. And listen without the ghosts bothering him. They were very active in that area and. It was starting to upset Him. His new obsession was the screaming man. Every night. Pounding, clawing shrieking wailing. Scott Damn. Terrifying. You could get enough. More time passed enough time. Were both boys felt. Strong. SPRY again. And of time where Terry was maybe starting to think about digging. So great new time and come. And he to say something. Spent his time. Wisely, he had a plan something that his family was well known for. In the right walks of life. His family, the Jones family was famous for a lot of things. So when he called the Abilene Black Historical Society and told them who he was. The curator was eager to talk to him. When he told the curator that he had a friend who needed history lesson about the Smith family? The man was less eager. Graydon said. It's important. And the curators agreed. Does he know. About brother Buck. That night after dinner of canned peaches and pork and beans. Graydon and Terry went up on the roof to watch the town sleep. And their Graydon told Terry, the story of Buck Harp. Scourge of the K. K. K.. Southern spirit of vengeance who presided over a field of white hoods on stick crosses. The devils best friend EMAM. Outside of time who lives only to punish those who terrorize and murder the black community. Gerry Doug Story But then he said. Cool. What's that got to do with me? It has to do with the screaming man they're great and told him. And then he explained how they were going to walk into town under the cover of darkness. He had the address for the Black, historical, society where the curator was waiting to speak with them. Terry was a little nervous about being recognized but. Graydon. Mapped out roundabout path to circle. Around the traditionally black section of Abilene. They made the trip with no incident and were warmly received. Curator. Was a kind man. Surprisingly Young. And he had. A lot to tell. Terry Smith. This is important for you to hear for you to know. I know this ain't on you not like that it's nothing you did. Not personally but your people did it your family? They did it to my people. My family. And you need to know where you come from what kind of people the Smith family are. You know appleans history. White settlement. Real small. Needed warm bodies to clear the land make it a proper town. Man Named Jones started bringing former slaves up here. The local leaders, which means the law which means the politicians, which means local businesses like the Smith cemetery they all agreed land for work slave days was over this was a new dawn. This wasn't the south. But that don't mean black people were welcomed with. Open arms. We got our land. But it was on. One side of town just like today we got wide Abilene and Black Abilene now just like. We had our own churches. Even had a few businesses. We didn't have a place for the dead. Smith cemetery had the high ground. You can bury folks up there on the account of the allocation. Down here, the water tables too high. So you bury someone they might pop back up one day. All Mr Smith, he didn't want to bury US blacks alongside the white folks. More than that. He didn't want black faces on his land at all. Some said Mr Smith was clan but I I can't speak to that. Hood or no hood. He was clan and spirit. Most of them was. On the other? Han. Black bodies piling up. He. So the law, the politicians and Mr Smith said, they give us colored people a little plot of land in the far back corner similar. Course. He was lying he took the bodies and toss them into one big hole no markers no coffin no Christian burial. No respect. Like. Garbage. Community didn't let that go. Got Angry enough, to March up on the cemetery. Gates. Smith. Knew they was coming. He had the law way with them. Take. One Guess Harp laid out. Three day that day. Righteous angry black folk shot down in the name of crowd control. took. Abilene. Years to recover from it. Not sure. It ever has. Not, sure it ever will. If I'm being honest with you. This whole town probably would have been burn down by now weren't oil buck heart panel visit. They. Say he wrote his wagon through our side of town right up onto the cemetery gates. No one saw come back out. All Mr Smith again not ever. Stories that Buck Dead Wood Buck dies. Then he buried Mr Smith alive in the middle of his own cemetery. And he's still up there. To this very day. Screaming and trying to get out of that coughing. Same blood runs through your veins young. Black don't make you who you are. But Damn. Sure sets you down a path. So learn your path and watch. Your stem. The silence. Was Heavy As they walked back to the cemetery. Was a lot to take in. The mass grave, the killings, the ghost story. The implications that it held. The curator was a man of history a man science. He didn't actually believe the legend of Buck Harp. It was just the kind of local lore that disguised a deeper meaning. But Graydon and Terry both. They knew that ghosts were real. Which meant that the screaming man. Was Your Ryan Smith. The angry ghosts? Who haunted his grave? Mu Who Terry was. They knew what was in his blood? Terry grabbed shovel and flashlight from the house in stomped out into the endless dark of the graveyard. Great and followed him. Great and stayed with his friend. Terry. Terry. Thank about this. Terrasson. My family. He's buried alive. That's not right. I. Know he was a piece of Shit and everything, but he's been buried alive for a hundred years you have to admit that is fucked. They were now standing on the screaming man's grave. They could both feel the vibrations of his anger through the dirt. Listen to that gray. Walk away. This is my home, my land I will be here one day. Can live with this. Great and said. You can. That man down there. That ain't you. You didn't do those things. But those things happen. Your family made them happen. And I'm not making the judgment about right or wrong here I'm not really not. But Buck Harp Shirley does judge. And if you dig up this old man. And Terry think about it, he's been underground for a hundred years. There's no way. He has any kind of human mind left at all think about it. But. If you dig him up, Blackhawk will know. And he will come to set things back the way he wants them. Terry plunged his shovel into the soft earth. Parted for him. As. If. Eager. To. Be. Doug. Are you gonNA. Stop Me Terry ask. No. I'M NOT GONNA stop. You. I'm your friend. I'm here to help you. Like you helped me. Carries had. At least the ghost. Made Sense to me. This is Fuck I. Don't know what this is. I, don't know what to do what do I do? I don't know that's not for me to say. Terry. Sometimes. I think you just gotTa let the past a buried. They walked back to the Smith House side by side. The Sun was peeking over the horizon on the far side of Abilene. A stop by the House. Just long enough to grab a few things. And then they just kept walking. were. Thank you for listening to another episode of Scary Home Companion. Find the show on social media. Twitter facebook and Instagram as always you can contact the show directly. At scary home companion at G. MAIL DOT COM. Would you like more pieces to this big old jumble of the puzzle? Bill. If you haven't already, I would strongly recommend listening to all around the maple up jumped the Devil Cemetery Smith. Graveyard Jones. And of course, guts. Or? Scoot on over to the Patriae on the post mortem. Now asus video breaks down old the story connections past. And Future. because. Of course, a lot of questions remain. There's a very good reason for that. Time will reveal, all. Patriot is the best way to support a scary home companion. Join. Carol Catherine Kevin? Eric. Andy. Buck and more. It's cool. Kids table. Get some inside scoop on what's on the horizon for future stories. The episode was edited and produced by Jeff Davidson. With a Special Guest Monologue by Good Heavens Alex Evans. Music. This time around was provided by big blood with four four beating lungs. Lobo logo would dream catchers young carts with stranger trailer bride with Graveyard Jazzar with scream from a deaf man. Nora keyes with tomb song. And Chelsea Oxen Dine with the theme music. Scary home companion is a proud member of the Imagine Ville. GAINESVILLE podcast network.

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June 2020 Catch Up

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

08:11 min | 3 months ago

June 2020 Catch Up

"Hi distinct from Greasy Lake when I'm tweeting Bruce springsteen understanding to sit lusting Bruce. Hello and welcome to a very quick episode of settling Bruce Your podcast all about Bruce springsteen has music mostly fan. I am your host Jesse Jackson and we are looking as I record this the middle of June. WE'VE GOT on a couple of weeks left of my birthday month, and then we are heading into July and August the heat. Of the summer, but that's okay for all GonNa stay in our air condition. Hopefully we are going to drink. Lots of liquid remain socially distance. Hopefully get more. SPRINGSTEEN's from his home to our home episodes on East radio, and of course more settlers thing bruce episodes. Wanted to give you a little taste of what we coming on coming up this week. my podcast partner for doctor, who and several other topics Charles. skaggs is joining me I. Have a comedian, Danny. Gal Goes. Who is hilarious and She has I think one of the funniest. ANSWERS TO DIS- Mary get in the car ever. Graham lease. join me. From the UK and we talked his Bruce Journey Map. McGee is a former U2 podcast her and A. Founded, one of the biggest youtube websites in the world, and he kind of broke up with you to found a new passion for gang of US, and we share that story coming up. I also have plans to talk to Ron Martz This'll be the third time Ron's been on the show. He's always a great guest. This time we're going to be spending a little time about the passing of the Great Denny O'Neil, and if you have any familiar at all with comic books or Batman Specifically Denny. O'Neil is a legend and we just lost him lost him. Also have scheduled visits with Aaron lippold Stephanie Phillips. Jennifer is joining us again. Andrew Hickey from a history of rock and roll, and five hundred songs has agreed to join me I'm excited about him and we're going to end the month talking to Bella Pori. which is always fun to have Bella so those are just a few of the people that I've got either already recorded or scheduled to record I. Hope that peaks your interest and I hope that if you go, Hey, I think I could join that group. You would and you could do that several ways one send me a set listening Bruce Itchy mail dot com email, you can reach me on twitter and lessening bruce you can. Me On twitter at Jesse Jackson DFW. And let us know. Let me know you WANNA be on the show and I can make it happen. No live music still, but we are getting a lot of fun stuff I hope. Everyone enjoyed the dropkick Murphys. In Boston that happened toward the end of May I thought that was beautiful and so great to see Bruce performing with them. Two great choices of Rose Tattoo in American land, and it didn't feel like they were in separate cities. So that that worked out really well I. Thought that was Nice. Well as I said, this was going to be a short one. The last one hundred ring up is my website. I don't talk about it a lot, but we do have a website I don't updated as much as I should, but from there you can go to There is a place where you can go see other springsteen podcast websites, friends of the show in and I hope you can use that just in case you're going. Hey, there isn't enough you know I. Don't have enough podcast. Listen to by the way Terry Smith had me on his podcast. That's coming out on June twenty fifth as a one year anniversary of his music talks episode some excited about that. you also can see patron page, and it is tough. There's a lot of people struggling with money and so I never want to take liked the fact that a couple of you kick us a few bucks every week every month to help support the podcast. It is very kind of you. It is not expected. The podcast will always be free. A though I'm not opposed to throwing its commercials. If someone has a business wants to you know, get here. a bunch of Bruce fans hearing an ad for their website or their store, just mentioning that if you know someone. but I did want to mention for my Patrons have Mary, Terry, Dale and Steve Holly in Chris all of them I appreciate so much that you are kicking a little bit toward me to say a thank you. For doing the podcast and it does help a lot. I think that's it. I hope each of you are staying safe. I hope each of you. Are Your family a safe? I've gone back to work. And so that's been a little weird I I. We've been working from home, but I'm back in the office so far it's going well, but it is a little scary. We've gone to a few restaurants and eating out, and it's a new experience, but it's been good. So slowly, but surely life is getting back to normal. I did want to end the podcast with a shoutout. To all those struggling. We're all experiencing The aftermath of the horrible unnecessary death of George Floyd by police in the Minneapolis area. And this is coming to light again. What can be really really? Painful and difficult subject. We do not. Try to get to political on this show though sometimes I think it's very clear. we do go into that, and it's very clear what my feelings are about this current administration and the mean spiritedness of it. my hope is. That, we're all working together. To make the world better. And I understand. That this is difficult. and. This is not an easy path. But is something that we need to work on. It's the right thing to do. And I am going to put my actions my money. And my I? Believes in that we will soon have better days. Thank you each I love you. And we'll talk to you soon. You just heard the fun talk hard rock music. Album Band thanking joy spreading. Lyric readings story sharing pie. That is the one the. Lingers. Settling! 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Music Talks introduction with Terry Smith

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

51:15 min | 1 year ago

Music Talks introduction with Terry Smith

"<music> hello everyone and welcome to a new episode of settling Bruce Your podcast all all about Bruce springsteen his music and mostly his fans. I am your host Jesse Jackson and joining me. Today is one of my favorite people. I know. I say that a lot but the reality is I like a lot of people but in this case it truly is Terry. Smith is joining me again Terry. Welcome back to the show Jesse Yeah. Thanks thanks for the INTRO and I'll put myself at the top of the favorite but it's great. It's great to be talking to you again. You Know Terry has been on on the podcast multiple times. It is odd to say this considering. We've never met him person but there is every once in a while you meet someone either in person or online that you click just for some reason you you really like the person Jason and they seem to really like you and <hes> not being to forty but I feel that is what happened with you and I absolutely absolutely yeah so terry has been on <hes> he he shared his springsteen story <hes> he did his <hes> awesome city limit summary. He did a best of year summary For me. He's been very nice of giving me <hes> material that I can send out but he started his own podcast called music talks and we're GonNa talk about and a little bit but you know there is no way if I got Terry on the phone. I'M NOT GONNA ask him what he thinks a western stars ours so would you like to know I would like to know so western stars. The bottom line is I think it's an incredibly good album. I don't think it will eh quite get to great and I'll talk about why thing that a minute but I have to admit when you know I think a lot of people are excited when he was coming out. I was really quite apprehensive. Only because it was a couple of things one was the fact that broussard sat on the album so long was shortly he would released it if he really loved it. That was a question in my head and then second sort of Western didn't theme and about two months ago I did actually go back to working on a dream and think well you know there was there was the songs on that were in that sort of Glen Campbell Babak sixties. He's mold and I have to say going back and listening to working on a dream with a couple of exceptions was not a great experience. It was like ooh I'd forgotten. I hadn't forgotten how awful queen of the supermarket is but I was like ooh. Hope hope hope it's not another waking dream album in. I'M GONNA jump in there because I feel the same way <hes> I I like outlaw Pete as the Children's book and the like. I don't understand understand why it's the same lyrics but just somehow as a children's book. <hes> you know it Kinda works but it is not one of my favorite songs <hes> it is not a <hes>. There's a couple of good songs on there but overall I agree with you. It is it is a okay album. I just kind of move on so I'm right there with you. So that was my concern about West ause they then release the first track and I was like okay a and that actually remind me because I can remember where I was when I I heard brilliant disguise. I'd literally just come back from Holland in France holiday in France and it came on the radio is a new single and and you know how to listen John Fella Okay I. I like about sort of reflective tuneful Bruce Doug goes. My miracle was like oh I'm not sure about this. <hes> although now on the album I think it works Britney and then Tucson frame was like I think we might have something now. While all of that was going on I think rolling stone reviewed it and gave it four stars and a friend of mine got quite excited about that and then I reminded the I think actually working on a dream five on high hopes or half long story short. I really like the the album I think it's that row thing today that it works as an album you know the listening to it as a whole suite of songs. I'm going to be my normal potential self air red. Somebody commented the hitchhiking opening song. It doesn't actually go anywhere in my view is that's the whole point one of that song but the album you know it's people stories and lives the the only track sleepy. Joe's cafe is the one that makes twitch a bit <hes> and I don't. I understand that but I don't feel that way. I know when I had the couple of guys join me right. After it was released Saturday morning we were able to you had a family viewed said you'd you'd say I would love to join us and they did not like sleepy Joe Cafe. I think it's fun. It's certainly not Mary's place <hes> but it's in that vein so I was okay with it <hes> <hes> but we talked about that felt like a collection of short stories. Yes and I don't think that's a bad thing. I think it's a great thing and I think you know the res Overall. I think that the law a Aridi good writing I think some of the lyrics great I think the only thing is to songs that start with book of this morning dislike should've spotted that won't Bruce Your net sixty. He finished the six years ago. You could've fixed it <hes> but yeah I I. I've always loved his. I've always loved his literal storytelling and in fact one of the things I want to do for your thoughts that they spot is something around that so I I think I think the songwriting strong I think the characters a strong and if I look back to sort of Ghost Tom Jody and I think musically even Nebraska I mean when Nebraska came out the musically wasn't great and it was I think he sort of is found that middle grand really well without diluting an emotion so yeah it's it's a really good album and I do think it's a shame he's not gonNA tear it. Yeah I would have in fact I if he isn't. I would love to see him tour. I I would've loved for <hes> for the promise he did that. Carousel Mini Concert Concert Yep <hes> that by the way never released the whole thing <hes> which I think is shame <hes> you know they've just released a couple of <hes> you know <hes> videos on back of it from it <hes> I I would have loved him to do a small show with the French horns in the you know the orchestra kind and then and then just <hes> released it as a d._v._d.. V._D._I. or even on demand agree yeah I agree 'cause I I agree with you is a really really <hes> and I've been very vocal. I you know I <hes> you know. Glen Campbell was a big player my house and one of the <hes> I guess it's been many years now but meet Glen Campbell were he took a lot of modern songs and recorded them in his style. Style is is one of my favorite albums so this was right in my wheelhouse and I liked it a lot I I I'm Kinda in love with Tucson train and I loved his French lovely yeah and and and the whole <hes> I just saw someone was discussing on one of the facebook page that you know is his is his is strained wife or girlfriend or whatever issue on the train because you know he's hoping for the train and I thought that was the nearest discussion in my mind. You know I just see this. You know please just come for weekend weekend. Just come for a weekend. We can enjoy and no pressure. We'll have separate bedrooms. I in that line I can show remain can change you know makes me smile and it gives me that that hope I hope so what are the reasons talking to us is that you will get my creative juices flooding. So how about this that to some train is actually Murray because she didn't gain the color there you go. That's right yeah. I love. I love it. I'm thirty years later. She and you're right. He's finally he's persuaded to come and visit for the weekend is a friend but he clearly has an agenda the other thing I have to say I don't know if you've seen the post but steve routed. Should we both obviously now in fact we stephen I met through your podcast but have you seen his post on Western skies were because he is a fan of outlaw pete so his his view is that it should be out little pete the album okay I am. I am actually going to do a playlist. The takes sleepy Joe's cafe. I'm puts in outlaw Pete and working on a dream and to see how it works. I was sitting here thinking the same thing I wonder if you took working on the dream workout a dream and western stars and kind of put them together and did a shuffle yep you. How would it would take you take a few so you'd have a dream but yeah I think I'm going to play around with that just fun just for them so let's be pretentious? Why do you think he waited too long? Well I guess my be would-be this with was 'cause it's a logical follow on from working on dream and then I'm assuming that sort of wrecking ball came along as a piece of writing and then it was you know you're onto tober the band we know from the book that he was actually going through pretty bad time in that depression say I'm I'm assuming is one of those things just went. Oh we've we've taken the left turn here because is always makes me smile and unfairly proud of it the I was at the John Stadium on night to when he played wrecking ball written for the stadium and you we have to be honest that point it felt like a unreal throwaway song and nobody realized what it was going to lead to so I guess my conjecture would be you know that that finished finish the to the album started flying for these street band that the meant Oh. Let's get out and keep touring. I'm you know he's going through a tough time. We'll know that one of the things that makes him better as he gets on the road and then of course Broadway came up so I I think there was any master-plan there and I think the thing we should be pleased about is warn. He didn't just let it sit in the volts because we know he's done other stuff into albeit. He was sixty five not seventy but to have an artist really really brighton and a new genre for him at that age. I think he's Bruin Yeah. I I think that an and I I certainly I'm not going to argue with anyone. There's been a overall. It's been positive there have been A. Few people that just said you know after it's just hadn't grown on him and they don't like it <hes> and and I think that's that's perfectly fine. I'm not gonNA throw them. <hes> you know couple people were I. Oh I think ugly and you know that's not going to be me all right. You sit around and wait for you know born to run to and and I don't think that's yeah and again I mean this to be pompous. A lead probably will be I mean my my my second. Favorite album. After darkness is probably tunnel of love and I think if you love to the love you will love this yeah and so because I think there's a direct line from one to the other in terms of songwriting yeah so I also agree that it kind of <hes> I wonder if him in John and Barbara guests sit down and go okay as we're doing this career thing you know what's the smartest way to do this. <hes> you know <hes> there's some a lot of authors. Put out a book every year you know and end so <hes> in you have to worry if you get in. I'll put it in my terms. Sometimes I get <hes>. I get a lot a lot of people saying yes yes. I can join you Jesse and so all of a sudden I have five or six podcast in the bank you had and so I'm like well greedy me. I guess could put out two or three week but no I I go. I need a podcast every week or with my little springsteen thought of the week too so I may you know and I'll tell people I advanced. It's spiting it might be three or four weeks four comes out <hes> so I think that he could have done that to write that he could have said <hes>. Here's what I've gotten go from there well good and and I agree with you to it would have been really really. I would love to have seen him. Do some of these songs live. I don't know if he will do them any live like when the ban tours again you've got to believe to believe he'll slot some of them in the some think if only again the conjecture that says Econ keep giving the marathon shows whether isn't a break and there isn't a sort of wine Dan in if if you listen to allow the oldest shows it always surprises me how much Nebraska stuff was in there and how much acoustic stuff was in that so <hes> woman and I guess my final coming Jesse would be you talking about sort of John John the management side of it. I don't think it was accidental that just before the album came out bruce that he'd written new album to the eastbound because I think that also did colline listening. It was like Oh great I can just listen to this is is knowing that there's another album the way yeah we'll we'll see yeah so talk to me about what you've been doing this summer <hes> <hes> you normally are seeing some of the best shows so it's not it's been a relatively quiet start to their music. So they're a couple of highlights. There is a young Scottish guy. Cold See Duncan who I saw in a fantastic Benue called some hold up in he's sort of electronic chronic music very different from Bruce. I'm we actually saw him. In Seattle supporting another great British spangled Elba so him I saw a fantastic Gyco Pita Perritt who and let me get. I just try to thank you because I'll need to check but he was. I think it was the only ones he was the lead singer of so he's one of these guys he was on my best year. He had one double more massive single and and went into thirty years of drug abuse and trying to kill himself. Basically good news is sixty seven has come out the other end on is now he made the Gr- album last year and has just released another one this year with his son my soul them in a small club again in Edinburgh and it was absolutely brilliant. nonmusical we went to the Duchess of mouthy which I was a bit thrown thrown by because my wife had said to me say this I said Oh it's Shakespeare not written by Shakespeare and the cast came out role talking in modern dollar but it was a modern take on the ditch muffin that was brilliant and then the where I should couple of springsteen so for my birthday we went into Glasgow and Sewri Tribute Bankole glory days who were really really good but I think the lead singer deserves a real credit because he came out on his own and he started with Hello Sunshine and to some train and it was like literally it was the day after entree and had been released <hes> so I thought that and did really really good versions of them so that was my birthday on the Saturday and then on the Monday we went to see little stephen. Yes I was GONNA. I thought she'd done that how I'd seen the first leg of the tour these new. I'm how was it was brilliant. I mean my only regret and I had I was. I didn't get to see him on the sole fighter in 'cause I actually had tickets for London and then couldn't make it because of some family issues we had evan is just completely over the top. I mean you thought there are a lot of people on state on the ball in this wasn't kind e._C.. Two thousand people but the must've been close to twenty people in stage you know the backing singers had massive had trustees and I spent most of the Gig just laughing smiling because it's sort of completely over the top <hes> but in a good way to as Grantham when when Linda went with the so fire tour we were at the majestic theater here in Dallas similar. It sounds like you know it's a it's a theater. It's a good theater got. The sound was a little off it. It was not the best acoustics the <hes> the instruments kind of overpowered his voice a little but <hes> Linda was just amazed she goes. I can just just watch the backup singers and entertained because they were all just corrugated you know doing dances and moves and it I guess <hes> Stephen is said and interviews that <hes> you know if this is not about making money because if there's no way if you're interested making money you would have this big of a band. You wouldn't ship many people to Europe with okay. If you make money the other Gig pops remember. It's not my list here. That was a rail highlight and I don't know if you're aware of music but medical Katie Tunsil now. I don't <hes> so she she's a Glaswegian lady lived in L._A.. For years had massive number ten years ago but she's kept us sort of Glasgow roots and we went to say eh a place called barrier islands which is one of those iconic venues so it's where oasis were discovered dinner. It's got a history. Everybody is the Beatles played the stones played the skull. They say it was a thirsty dancehall and it still most of the floor is still a wooden sprung densely <hes> so of course when when it starts to get live in the Gig it's faster could literally the people bands but yeah you should. You should seek Katie Tunsil. I may pop in the post because it was one of those gig where they <hes> their record. It and you can get you can get the C._D.. Twenty minutes after the end of the Gig Oh nice ice and I think I think you would enjoy if only for the into Song Banter and given that yours is family show I won't I won't tell you what she said when she opened up but suffice it to say second line I'm was I just remember recording this. Oh that's funny. I'll dig a copy out and put it in the postage that'd be and then in terms of what's coming up quick. I'm seeing journeys policewoman tomorrow night. We've got Paul Weller next Thursday. We have the cowboy junkies is all in July. We have burt Bacharach Widdecombe I've seen before but was saying him in a parking Glasgow that has like the old fashioned banks fans sure so we say in Hayme <hes> than the national and then later in the year Wilco Craig Fin of Craig Finn in J Clemens in the same week. Oh that'll be good which will be good so yeah lots of stuff stuff gang so <hes> so you know burke backtrack. If he covers something from western stars you could just like okay. I'm blown away. I did did see Jimmy. Webb responded the couple of people talk to him and you know in an interview he had said behave. I'm not influencing Bruce springsteen at all but I've liked what I've heard. I thought that was nice. I did say that it's a shame for a lot of reasons Glen Campbell longer with us but I would love to hear him. Do One of these songs. You know. Oh absolutely absolutely all right so we are. You're not just to catch up though it's always always lovely <hes>. You have a new podcast don't you. I do Yay finally so so it's called music talks. We're going to give you where you can find it but <hes> for those you have never listened to the episodes Terry's been on you should go back and listen to him but purtill you know as every concert is someone's first concert every podcast at someone's first podcast. Tell me about what music talks about okay well. The history of actually goes back to the seventy S and Seattle and I retired from Copa Life a couple years ago and I it was new sixty but it's going to be so that was it was when I was going to be finishing Montagne which was enjoying it on. I had a friend Guy Code. Larry Highs is actually going to be my guest on episode. Three of music talks and he retired a few is before nice job. When I saw Larry the when I stopped working? He and I should start a music club. Sheryl Crow's Tuesday night music when I stopped where that's actually sort of what I did. I am we did have something to be on a Tuesday night. I started inviting. Just friends typically male just in my friend ran and say hey let's go to bed is I'll cook some food. Let's listen to music and my my obsession is what is music is top end hi Fi. I have a very small old car. I spend my money on hi fi and typically these friends had been rammed dinner and we'd have snatched five or ten minutes listening to something thing and people that said opening to be great night listening to music so that's what I started doing and after about four these is sort of Sandton did my own review of how the Ba- going Nancy walls. I was having fun. I think I guess having. Having a little I was very conscious that for a lot of the evening involve me playing forty five or sixty seconds of a tractor I liked very loud. Screaming doesn't it San Fantastic and then playing forty five or sixty seconds of something else else. I liked so I I need to come up with a format so that when people come over the get to hear some of the music they like and you and I've talked about Jesse if you say to people like what you favorite Bruce Song it's what it changes every day and it just seemed to people pick five songs so what I came up with was a an icon honestly remember it came from but it was pick a song for each decade of Your Life and basically the guidance the thing guidance that there is this isn't about what was the best album or artist in the seventies or the ninety S. It's what song is important to you. What Song says a particular deg and that's what I started doing so people would send me the list before they came over? I'd stick it on playlist they derive. We'd have a bear. We'd listen to Dutch choice. I'd let it all play through and then I would on my choice while I went and finish food so I did that probably for eighteen months a word really really well and then she will know just came. I was looking to come on to set student Bruce's a guest. I grabbed you at the end and just ahead of you got five minutes instead you think this is a format for podcast and I will continue to say thank you impress you because they're out as if he'd gone well. I probably wouldn't have done nothing but you didn't you incredibly that'd be supportive and after the usual hiccup some bumps in the road the great news is that a wheat last Tuesday I launch my first episode and as of now one hundred ninety people listened into it and I'm so excited that is awesome. Yeah I do love it the concept <hes> in fact <hes> this week to celebrate <hes> you're kind of launch. I'm going to pull up because we were. We're able to do these for a few times onset less increase their we had you and I were we each picked our <hes> you know since we are a little little more <hes> we have a few more miles. We were able to pick seven <hes> then <hes> we've had a couple other people including Rob Southgate and an episode that no one's ever heard his wife Martha so so we're going to separate the two episodes so I'm GONNA re <hes>. I'M GONNA do a new introduction. I'M GONNA re release those to Kinda. Do a music talks week onset less than bruce the kind of help things for things so yeah <hes> so talk about your first episode and <hes> you you shared with me who he was but his title made no sense to me <hes> so share the name and the title and then i WanNa make a comment about that okay so my guest 'cause i. I spent a fair amount of my working career working Microsoft. My guest is Guy Call Steve Clayton. He's actually very good friend but he's also Microsoft and one connections we met at Microsoft. One of the connections we have is the only weeks from the same town we were literally grow fit. We grew up four hundred yards and fifteen years apart so there's a fifteen in your age gap but we literally lived around the corner from each other and Steve these days has the great title of Microsoft's Chief Storyteller Yeah and I won't spoil it here because he he you guys talk about how he got that title <hes> and I would not have believed it if he had not shared it I mean the idea and of just how that happened and what that means it truly is almost a dream culture. Is I mean the amazing thing about Stephen we may have been back presenting dishes episode and something I may post next day too but it probably the best story about Steve wasn't in podcast deliberately but could a long story short he was he used wet for myself customer and somebody in the technical department slightly slightly not because you're not ready supposed to do this got into to them to say. Would you be interested in joining mark soft and he said yes and he turned up any gulp the job and then turned up in the local Microsoft pub where people were socializing and the guy who'd recommend them for the job at recommended to different Steve Clayton often so here's the guy who now you know operates it pretty senior level. He was the first person interview when he was made chief executive on stage but actually he was recruited by accident that is wonderful <hes> yeah so the and what I've loved about the concept and <hes> is there because every once in a while talk to people about it and they'll say well like my favorite song I like no this may not even Nia song you necessarily like that much. It's just a song for every decade you've been alive and you're dealer's choice. Pick whatever you want now. When I did it I tend I did it more about all my family and kind of my philosophy of life I kind of used it as an audio biography <hes> but others have been very much talking about <hes> Bela who is on here who who we both love because she's only got to pick three songs but she ended up giving us six anyway genius that was genius <hes> you know she did a lot about her generation and what she was doing so <hes> I believe that like all good concepts you have parameters but there's a lot of room to color both inside and outside the Line Yeah Bonus Jesse like all these things that you have an idea here and then it takes off? Stop spending your idea and I mean positively one of the joys on getting is what people do but the full Matt and how they also tinker with it so <hes> I mentioned before Steve Ratledge <hes> I've got his episode in the Cam what Steve Did with <hes>. He actually changed the definition of a decade so instead of starting therein finishing at nine his stalled at one and finish should zero on the reason he did that was that was anyway get sold as he really wanted in and it's like okay and again you educated me on this. which is I didn't? I never ever set the former upward rules so for goodness sake. The last thing I should be doing now is going up but you can't do that Pe- people in guests can do they live so <hes> p people continue to play with which is great yeah like one of the things I did and we laughed about is <hes> I was born in fifty nine so I made it myself that I couldn't pick something early in the fifties because technically I wasn't ally so I made sure I picked a song from fifty fifty nine and which made a joke you did because you picked one a couple years early in the decade and you said and sad to say I followed that rule yes. I wish it wasn't true but it is do <hes> so who do you have coming up <hes> so coming up <hes> episode to which comes out in Tuesday's a guy called Thomas Power. Thomas is a larger than life character who <hes> again I met through business but I guess my best summary of Thomas these I met him in about ninety-six and he was the first person I was ever introduced to and somebody said this is Thomas Power. He's a network <hes> but Thomas and my Glenn Thomas is this is a man. It's been off his life waiting for twitter to be invented so it's no surprise now that he's got about stringent fifty thousand twitter followers but he worked full a guy cold. I company called starting. The guy called Holland sugar who was very instrumental in the U._k.. In the days of computing over here and he has countless countless stories and I know that you particularly will love his episode because he just comes up with some some grants isn't some really audible stuff say he's he's number two number three as the garment from before is Larry Hauser <hes> so good friend sort of inspiration behind all this Larry's businessman author I described him as my favorite professional New Yorker so he is the archetypal New Yorker with homing glasses cases in the car and all of that he's also Israel here at the end of the episode. He's one of his many musical claims to fame as he was actually outward stocks and that's like the original them and then episode four as he's. I managed to get a Rishikesh shy away. Come on do so yeah. He's that's being recorded. I haven't edited yet but that's in the can and he's another one who plays with the format and actually Ashley. No surprise does some really interesting stuff in weaving story so I think you're willing to that and then the final sort of my first five and I wanted to make sure my first five episodes were a real interesting mix. <hes> is a guy cold Paul Dougherty so Paul is the C._I._O.. For Accenture he wrote a book last year probably the best book if you WanNa read about artificial intelligence called A. R. A. and man-machine the other thing about Paul again. I met through business but police from New Jersey Nikos Assay is a message springsteen fan so very quick stories when the first last time I met bold on we were waiting to meet such Adela who not long before had just been made chief executive of Microsoft and very unusually such Secchia was running like ten minutes late so so that was that making compensation thing and Jersey came up and I mentioned springsteen and and actually we needed to be interrupted when set you walked into the room. He's I'm pulled again. Did it did a great job over the phone. That's so yeah interesting mix people. You know what's what I love. Terry is <hes> my first instinct when I hear someone saying there from New Jersey is to Oh are you Bruce Fan and and then the other thing is anyone from the U._k.. I'm like Oh. Are you dr who got a lot of yeses. It's it's very funny. We have a new C._E._O.. <hes> at <hes> my day job and <hes> Paul is from the U._K.. And he talked about you know like I can't remember which <hes> you know European football team one of the U._K.. Teens was his team. You know he's lived in the U._S.. For a while but you know <hes> but <hes> everyone was asking questions and I was smart enough to wait till afterwards. Words and <hes> you know he was beating kind of everyone's talking about stuff and I <hes> I came up like Hi Paul Jesse Nice to meet you Jesse. I sit so I've got ask you are you Dr Thin and he looked at me a little where he goes <hes> my daughter's fan of the modern era he said I was back more with the Davison and you know <hes> Baker era and okay just just curious so I know he's like that was an odd question to ask but but isn't it. Isn't it interesting that I can probably age him just because of which doctor who oh yeah he mentioned yeah so given you mentioned football because I was determined to get in I all U._S.. Do you follow soccer just in a very minor you know kind of the fringe I funny story. <hes> one of the sports talk shows I listened to <hes> they have a morning and middle and afternoon and one of the afternoon shows the midday show. <hes> BOB is a huge huge European soccer fan and the League Barron U._K.. And <hes> and so junior one of the morning is like I just don't get soccer and he says I'll tell you what you should do. Pick a team follow that team the same way you would follow you know these Seattle seahawks the Dallas cowboys or whatever go through a season at the end of the season. If you're not a fan then you know it's not for you and he junior did that and I don't remember which when he picked but he's now this massive fan since connected so it's so well so I I miss you mean. You know that that least there is the women's will going on at the moment because in U._S._A.. Is in the final tomorrow after beating England however this could only happened on the B._B._C.. Which I'm love I love being back Thursdays of the semifinal wiz Holland against Sweden and `and Holland one on Nerlens win by one nil and the score was a lady call Jackie Grumman and at the end by the wintertime so this is going on for two and a quarter hours and at the end the B._B._C. commentated says Jackie Jackie grown and a bruce springsteen fan her goal has set the has set the Netherlands off down the thunder road where they will meet the girls who were born in the U._S._a.? Oh greatness so ooh thing we have to do and I've tried to find twitty's Jackie grown and must have a twitter account or somewhere kitschy big great settlers bruce but I mean on the basis it gets I mean I'm looking at one of the big sports sites and apparently she lives. She Lives Johann cry. who was played for? I accident. I'm Saddam. She lives the Beatles and she does Bruce springsteen but the fact that they pull this out as the did you know thanked. She's clearly not casual fan. Yeah that is awesome. We should try and track down and you can play football by the way and I I personally am proud of the Colin commentary that you know he he he had that <hes> you know 'cause that's definitely sounds scripted definitely but they went back to the studio and the woman is is thank you Jonathan and just to be clear. I have no more bruce springsteen references I can use and it's awesome I wanted to share with you and now then we truly are catching up rock in the suburbs purpose. The podcast that <hes> Jim in Patrick do here in the U._S. used to be <hes> Dad rock on U._S._A.. Today and they are their own podcast well <hes> they take summer vacation and they ask people to fill in and I said well. I don't have any burning topics. I said Oh you know I always talk western stars but a couple people reached out and said I don't know how to record a podcast and I said Said Hey. Let's schedule it. I can record it. I can edit it. You're just going to have to do most heavy lifting I'll talk to you and one of them was <hes> Kevin Clement. Who was your first? I remember yes and pull back the curtain. A little bit Terry was like this is amazing. We have a podcast asking for people to join us and someone we've never met never heard from reached out and said yes. I want to do this and for me. What was exciting was he lives in Baton Rouge Louisiana which is just sounds well? I know have been is just animates him. He was a great guest who is a great and so <hes> coming up <hes> we talked Louisiana Music and the difference between <hes> Zydeco and more <hes> you know Cajun music and so it was a lot of fun. It was a symbol that be out Jesse. I'm not sure because it's it's rock in the suburbs doing it but when it is I'll pass it show. You let me what was hilarious. Though is he said you you know before we started because this is only my second podcast the first one was you guys. I said this is great. <hes> so yeah this is great. I'm I'm so excited about your podcast. I think this is GonNa be amazing. <hes> and I I WANNA stress the same way I do. You know you don't have to be famous to join either you or I on the podcast. <hes> everyone I believe has a good story to tell and so if people want to join you first off. How do they hear the podcast and secondly if they want to sign up to say hey? I'd love to share my story. How can they okay so in terms of the podcast then it's on apple and all of the major players so if you search on music talks and actually Terry or Terry Smith that will pull it up? It appears that the have been another music towards come at the same time. If you WANNA go down the website route then it's music talks palled dot sprint dot com on if you want to email me than then it's music talks pod at outlook dot com all pigmy on twitter and again draw consistent which is upset at music talks pod. I'd love to hear from people I'm with you Jesse. The one of my future guests is actually a boy with how we met up but a aids a young guy in his twenties from Jordan. Now you'll go well. He's going to have a very short choice but this guy because of his father knows so much about sixties and seventies music and I I will give a little baby. He's sixties. Choice is Jefferson airplane and his seventies choices boney m yeah and he's just got fantastic story to tell about you know growing up Jordan and the role of M._t._v. and that so <hes> yeah if people rather and they like the form out and they'd like to get into trouble update from absolutely <hes> so I'll do the same plug for me. <hes> I am always looking for people to join me on settling Bruce <hes> to share your springsteen story <hes> and talk about <hes> what <hes> his music is meant to you and journey <hes> coming up. I Have Liz who is the Dutch Courtney Cox <hes> yes and she has a a story of on twitter. Someone suggested that I reach out to her and I did and Liz was <hes> she tells us great story about getting on stage with Bruce and then multiple times james running into him and he appears to remember her every time so so. It's going to be a great story. You could reach me at settling Bruce Gmail.com you. I am on twitter at set less than bruce my personal twitter at Jesse Jackson D._F._W.. I have a new voicemail so if you WANNA call four six nine two four nine two four two four four to let me try that again yes makes me feel so much four six nine two four nine two four four to leave a voicemail. I am running a contest. I'M GONNA give out two copies of <hes> the <hes> the book that blinded by the light is based on Berry from <hes> Gosh now than I'm drawing a blank on greetings things from Berry Park Yeah. Thank you greeting very park. I'm giving out a two copies of that. So all you gotta do is leave a voicemail with any comment or something and you'll be added to their <hes>. I'm really really looking forward to that movie. Yes me too great so any final thoughts here. <hes> I guess the only one festival is thank you for doing the music talks week given those will go out with with the title of teatime Terry. I guess I should finish by telling the story of why did I change the name of the podcast Yes yes. I'm the reason the reason is that I went down to the Guardian newspaper does this this thing pretentiously titled Master classes but the the they're interesting three are things if you want to learn about stuff and they tend to get speakers so I went to London on podcasting masterclass and the guy running it asked as anyone sort of started podcasting or you know and starting started doing stuff at U._T._S._A. in hand up and he was talking about having a memorable name and his podcast is actually called the unconventional list's and as he pointed now. It's been running for four years. It's actually very successful but he himself still stumbles over the titled The uncompetitive lists so he basically said you need something. That's short simple memorable so I put my hand up and he said great what you podcast coldness teatime Tehranis like that used to short simple memorable alliterative he said don't you answer is what the people think. The podcast is about. I'm somebody said t the and that was AKA and somebody said Terry when we'll Paul yes I then this lady look depends said Gulf and I realized that I'd come up with a brilliant name for Gulf podcast. Nobody they've give close guest that he was about music and the reason I gone with Teton. Metairie goes back to those music evenings I used to do and it was actually a friend of mine. who was a guest on your show <hes> Jesse compelling he said well? If you're doing these evenings they need to have a title and give them a both Brits living in America he thought teatime with Terry was suitably English and British so <hes> it was a great name but not great name for people to extend stand with the podcast was about so music music talks and there's a nice punning there in opposites but music if people talking but musicals has a meaning say it was but that's that's the reason that folks will hear teatime Terry on the stuffy riposte thinking but music talks is what we go with going forward. I'm so glad we remembered to bring that up. WE'RE GONNA call it a episode. Thank you Terry you truly have been a wonderful supporter of the podcast and so I appreciate that <hes> listeners.

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Remastered episode 179 with Terry Smith

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

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Remastered episode 179 with Terry Smith

"Hello and welcome to day. Two of music talks week onset lessing Bruce. I am your host Jesse Jackson and today we are going back to August sixteenth two thousand eighteen. This is where Terry join me in the first recorded recorded session of what we were calling at the time T- time with Terry that's right. This is where it all started so please listen to Terry Ni- both share our songs from our life's journey both of us pick seven songs we went in different paths. I treated mind kind of as a mini-biography tribute to songs that meant lots of me and honor of my family so listen and let me know what you think if if you've heard this before I think you're going to enjoy it if you have heard before. I think it's worth a re listen before I go to remind you Terry. Smith does have a new podcast called music talks. You can find it by searching music talks Terry Smith anywhere where you can get your podcast you can his website is music talks pod at buzz sprout dot com and you can contact him at Music Talks Pot and outlook look dot com or on twitter at music talks pod. I can be reached as always at Jesse Jackson D._F._W.. You could send me an email at settling in Brusett gmail.com or you could call me at four six nine nine two four nine two four four two and don't forget our patriarch page. We are looking for some support. Thank you for now and let's keep hope alive. I can see myself Golden Sunrise young bar open up your is supposed to be your day now all go horizon bound. You won't Stop Continue Fan your own you can do way and the wind will be tousled some rain the sweet display brave tales of love and <music> somewhere around your path Gloria you wear right Joe Story of a La away. Hello everyone and welcome to a new episode of settling Bruce Your podcast. It's all about Bruce springsteen his music and mostly as fans. I'm your host Jesse Jackson but today you have downloaded a new kind of episode. That's right you just think this is your normal settling set listening Bruce. A today is a pilot that based on feedback from you. The audience may be a continued series a kind of a spinoff of a selby <hes> well. I'M GONNA hold off the name but I'm getting introduce my co heart and my co-pilot today Terry how are you. I'm Great Jesse. Thank you so for those of you who may have missed your earlier guest spot on settling Bruce. Tell people little batch you okay so I'm as you can hear from next time Brit. I currently live in Seattle and have the news with my wife Laura. I say currently because <hes> we all literally in the precious of moving back to the U._k.. About ten day ten days away from moving so <hes> yet that's the that's the big thing in our life and I've been a music fan came from bone in Liverpool originally been a music final my life <hes> I'm a massive Bruce Fan but I do have albums from ancient to their artist so <hes> an really looking forward to have in this <hes> having this chat yeah so am I and so when Terry was on and <hes> a few weeks ago <hes> we had a great discussion it was great talking to him and at the very end he said hey do you have. I'm just a minute and I said sure what's going on. He how did you get into this and I started telling him the story because I'm comfortable telling anyone the story and Terry told a story sorry and so I'm GonNa Kinda. Leave it there. That's the setup so go ahead and talk about this tradition. You started at your home. Okay so <hes> yeah I <hes> I guess the bit background. I didn't mentioned the Indian tribe as the twelve months ago. I was looking enough to retire after such yet years in I._T.. <hes> and I was a big thing and music's a big part of my life but obviously gave me a gave me time to do things I hadn't before will and also I was very very keen to keep obviously a lot of the contacts in social side of of the job that I really enjoyed and music is a passionate also hi-fis oppression and has been for many years so I'd had a number of friends <hes> typically they've been around for dinner. You know and you get five minutes to listen to the top end hi Fi really playing and people that said Janet be great to come round and have a few hours and really listen to music so I think it was actually a friend of mine <hes> the Cheryl Cronulla Sheryl Crowe out Tuesday night music and it was like you should just start a music so I I invited a few just one on one couple of friends who said they were interested in this Nisa music. Listen to this five on them random. Basically the setup was one of his the middle of summer so you know couple of days in the garden listen to Music Nick. I'll cook some food. We'll have a good evening on those first few. Even though I say myself yet they were great fun but if I'm honest the thing I realized was footfall too much of the evening it consisted of me playing the fest forty-five or sixty seconds of a track I chosen shan-ching over the loud music doesn't that sound fantastic and then playing somebody else so I'm an all of my ideas Microsoft and everything there is a is a program and so I thought do I need a format and I know I'm sure you have this Jessica than people. What's your favorite Bruce Song in questions like that I always in what's your favorite ever album but what I came up with was basically pick? You'll favorite song depending on your age of the last I actually started but the last six decades and then a friend of mine said I was born in the fifties as in fact I was. Why didn't you do the fifties so the setup was just taped before you come round around? Send me through your favorite song doesn't have to be from your favorite artists doesn't have to be from your favorite album. Just what's the song that says to you. This is the sixties this is the ninety s <hes> I'll stick up on a playlist and then now when you arrive will listen to that <hes> on a hostile also keep it to about thirty minutes <hes> will listen to that and then while I cook you can listen to my playlist <hes> and I started doing that and I have to say worked and and people did also to creative things with one of the last sessions I did with a friend of Mine Chris. His two teenage kids also did Dulles Great. <hes> you know other people's sent me. The long list of songs. They chosen isn't from so <hes> yeah. It worked out to be a really good and I should I say the name that was please so a British friend of mine. Dan who also today and he turned up you need the name <hes> <hes> and he came up with teatime with Terry which I thought was suitably quainton English and British so that's what that's what we've been running with the last six months so that's the story and I just think fat is such a fun <hes> exercise and you know in the spirit of talking about Britain. <hes> Neil game in a brilliant rider talked about that the worst thing you can do for him is to call him and say hey neil doing a collections short stories. I'd love you to contribute you can do anything you want and he says that just baffles him. Let if you say Hey Neil I'm doing short story. I'm doing collection stories about angels and I really like something maybe as a cat as an angel then he works interesting and so I think instead of saying I I love the idea that you okay not giving some songs you think will sound good on my system but you give us a little parameter so I thought that for fun Terry and I will go through our decades of songs <hes>. We both were born in the fifties so we're GONNA we have seven songs to go. We're going to go through each decade. One at a time we'll add a little snippet post production of the songs and then if people like it <hes> the thought is we would invite other guests to join us and they would share their five six six three songs with US depending on their age right because I think this is a different. It is such a fun way to talk about music <hes> so do you WANNA go. I do you want me to go. I what what are you suggest. I'm happy to hear fest on Christmas. Okay so let's start on kids. You have any because I tend to as you talk about a process <hes>. I made myself some rules. So do you have any rules on your seven songs. <hes> the only I guess for me what I was trying to <hes> when I went through mine and by by the way I constantly changed mine over to enlist there is the is upset so that but for me has to be something that when I hear that music it it takes me back or it reminds John's music that time and it's not true reselection but also quite a lot of them are of that decade <hes> there are a couple of autism span multiple but for me. It's something that just says when you when you hit that one reaction but to do you think that's the is that's the nolte's whatever so that that was really the only the permit me I said one. There could not be duplicate. You had had to have a different artists for each song yet. Because someone made the joke will you just picked eight songs from Bruce Springsteen <hes> so the that was my first will it had to be different artists for each decade to <hes>. I said that I want songs. I want to tell a story with my songs songs and so as I tell them hopefully you will see <hes>. This is kind of a a musical biography is how I ended up going. So all right you go. I I my friend. I'm gonNA write notes so that <hes> when I go and do searching I will know which songs okay so all the way back to the fifties unfor- this and I'm sure it won't be the V._M.. Bruce Connection the description Jesse but <hes> you will know when I'm sure listens with though the you know a lot of American artists including Bruce talk about the influence the seeing Elvis on the Ed Sullivan check out you know this iconic mind when the world changed well the British equivalent to that and I wouldn't suggest it was quite the seismic shift the Elvis Kohl's but the British equipment was a a nautical cliff Richard <hes> the show was a boy oy and this was August nineteen fifty eight <hes> Andy sings a song call move it <hes> which is just classic fifties sort of rock rockabilly <hes> but one of this. I guess one of the things I o one of the reasons have a lot of affection for this is the <hes> welcome to think cliff Richard is a massive alter smelter will was and still is in some areas a massive altis in U._k.. Really didn't make it in the U._S.. And certainly later in his career he became cliff Richard. <hes> he became a real middle of the road performer <hes> very clinker Christian image what used to be slightly disparagingly described. There's a housewives favorite in in the U._k.. But in nineteen fifty eight when he appeared on that show in this man was dangerous stuff <hes> and it really did get a reaction <hes> and one the things we could hopefully be able to do with the series is also point people at video clips but go go onto youtube and just set on cliff Richard Move. It and I think it's a classic in terms of you know how significantly was in the U._k.. Way You look at his numbers. I mean this man as well. He sold two hundred sixty million records worldwide. He's the second largest British artist after the Beatles. He had one hundred hundred entries in the U._K.. Twenty so that's actually mold than anyone want and sixty seven top ten hits so we second only to Elvis but the thing you know if you really want to understand his influence on British music this is my favorite quote which is John Lennon. <hes> was interviewed mid sixties and his coat was before cliff in the shadows. There was nothing worth listening to impressive music. I'm by the way Hank Marvin who is guitarist in the shadows Utah Either Jimmy Page Jeff back older. Those people will talk about what a massive influence that guy was as well so I suspect for a lot of Americans a name suddenly not well-known <hes> but really very seminal kicking off the British music. I vaguely know the name I think he's <hes> he's had a little bit of pop success. Maybe in devil women think right and we don't talk anymore in the eighties but <hes> yeah he never really cracked American. Okay wow very nice. <hes> let's play a little bit <music>. They call rock say it's going to data see you say just a goal and do the blaze little got nothing new. ooh Oh very cool. I like that a lot got off to a good start so I didn't talk about this before but I had one other rule terry. I was born in one thousand nine hundred fifty nine so I limited my song selection to only songs created in nineteen fifty nine just because it seemed right that <hes> the sudden news for me is that I comply with your rule because I was born in fifty seven became at fifty hates. I liked that room. I like that route so my first song is Mac the knife Bobby Darin and the reason why is my mom loved Ah country and Western music but she also loved a lot of early pop. She loved fats domino she loved Jerry. Lee Lewis when he was still doing in pop it and she loved Bobby Darin and so I picked back the knife for my mom I do love that song. I think it is a song that is so much fun to here and to sing along with it pictures that him in a Tux and that kind of crooner feeling <hes> you know it's a song that has a lot of weirdest to it. <hes> you know it's originally from an opera at threepenny opera and so <hes> let's play a little bit. We'll we'll we'll get untie are bowtie a little bit. We'll have the Mike and will play a little <hes> Mac the knife three this sharp it just Jiangmen as Maggie and it keeps the big scarlet below stop the sprint fancy glows though whereas and now they moaning last life. Good night tuna we now move to the sixties. Yes so yeah I well let me start all this time. I'll I'll say what chosen and then the mature about wise so my choice is all along the watch time <hes> the Dylan Song Book the Hendrix Passion <hes> on a whole ref the reasons which is in this <hes> I said before about songs represented is and decades and when I think the sixties yeah if I was to choose one would it be change and I will always always go back to the Beatles and identify remember when the first greatest hits which the the red and blue albums and they had the two shots and I can remember which white ran but one of them had the covers shop from the fest album. Please please may on the second walnut had exactly the same shalt seven years later and they've gone from as you said. Do you know the Italian suits and the clinker image too long hair and beds and you think about that seven years it was just such a massive massive change <hes> but you know I know from interviews. They'd be the first to say that lyrically Dylan probably did more than anyone to just break the mold of what was the song and always lived at lot that the famous playboy interview he did with someone says you know people really want to know what your songs are. What are abandoned? He said I'm happy to tell you guys like go on these. It's summer about three minutes long summer about five minutes long long <hes> you know but he did she did right eleven minutes songs I think him lyrically and then Hendrix in terms of the guitar and what you could do with a three piece band <hes> again I think he just broke all the rule so the two of them coming to getting you're getting dividend Hendrix Wiza- was going to put it right up that <hes> the other thing for me. I Love I love cover. Versions actually reinterpreted song and I think it's interesting the Dylan apparently along retirees most played song but he probably plays it more in the style of Hendrickson dozen in his own original vision. <hes> other things is <hes>. I actually convince my English teacher. When I was sixteen? We had a big sort of poetry project do and I managed to convince the I should do it on top Devon's old along the watched I rather than any of the English romantic poets I'm an I love to find that piece of work. I know it's long gone but I'd like to see going back to our are less. What pretentious nonsense I wrote? I'm sure it was fun and then finally just talking about that. Change thing and I mentioned before about let videos it's actually not a video of this song but again go onto youtube and such on Hendrix on the Lulu show and this was nineteen sixty-nine. This BBC live television Saturday evening when Hall of the twenty million people in the country are watching this Saturday night barrage show and Hendrix is supposed to come on and he's supposed to do Voodoo child he supposed to do hey joe and he's then supposed to do duet with Lulu who is it was a young Scottish singer a who had just recorded the bond theme and Jimmy was supposed to do at you with if you watch the video what happens is they get thirty seconds into. Hey Joe and then he goes. I'm not gonNA play this rubbish anymore and he does sunshiny love because cream broke the night before and they play for eight and a half minutes until the Sharon's so long long I A- As I think for me the sixties will will always be this song and again back your rules against the other final thing I was looking for. Is that thing where you hear hit the opening of a song on your ears prick up using yes and the stall of this when Hendrix does is brilliant so that's that's the sixties for me all right here we go in some way to the too much. I can get no drain plow man the nobody I always think of <hes> battle star Galactica the reboot you know they did <hes> they. They had <hes> playing that some they use some of the lyrics with the size of Coal Costa did so I think at great choice great choice but I'll tell you what one of the spinal thing as I mentioned that Lou show <hes> she had had Cessna one in the U._k.. At Age of sixteen with a cover of song called shout we I'm I'm liking your <hes> <hes> Bruce Connections so my version of the sixties is probably as far away from yours as we can imagine <hes> I picked daddy sang base for Johnny Cash for my dad. Oh <hes> he adored Willie Nelson. Johnny Cash Hank Williams <hes>. I'm only slightly joking that our butts that would be in the couch watching the Johnny Cash <hes> T._v.. Show <hes> or heaven help us <hes> and I also I love the song of this that <hes> you know one of the lyrics. Is You know they would do. He would do that deep johnny cash daddy seeing base and then <hes> his lovely bride June Carter would say Mama Sang Tenor and then they me and my little brother would join right in there because singing seems to help a troubled soul one of these days and it won't be long. I'll rejoin them in a song. I'm going to join the family circle at the throne. Oh I always like breaking you cry. That was the grown that was emotion. The the idea in in this is the same feeling I get when I listened to Mary's Place <hes> so see I can do this to when I hear Mary's place from the rising and they talk about route on the Front Porch Music playing loud I picture that family together we would have people when I was a kid. <hes> DAD's service buddies he was in the military and a a lot of his service buddies would come over and bring their guitars in the living room and the smoke would be just thick as thieves back then and <hes> you know the the wise would be laughing the and joking and the guys would be sitting there just smoking and picking and singing songs and like you do this one or how about this one and there was such joy in that and togetherness so an honor that my dad my number six the sixties decade is daddy sings base from Johnny cash here. We go remember onto the poor people. That's all we were trying to make a living. We get together in a circle again that is saying they all singing seems to help troubles one of these days Alex Jones. I'm going to be add the guy all right so now we move to the seventies so the seventies so at the decade I really discovered music a bowl mark I up oh my first two albums in nineteen seventy at the the same district at the same time so that was <hes> led Zeppelin warm and Dr the Goldfish. I I'm sudden if I love compiling lists some. They'll talk with male so quite a while ago I did by I <hes> pompously titled the Best Albums of last century I then realized that twenty five choices were released between nineteen seventeen seventy five so <hes> you know I._O._S.. Ice As my son and I always say to when I'm talking to teenagers big be couple of what you listen to between the ages of falls in nineteen because you can listen to the rest of your life <hes> so the seventies was really difficult decade for me but I decided given those two <unk> to be <hes> <hes> let's try <hes> I've actually and this went back and forth but I've chosen <hes> probably Annan typical track and way <hes> because it's one of the it's one of the soft attract so low one of the things I always I loved about Zeppelin <hes> was they were never the archetypal heavy metal damned they always had so many of the things <hes> going on and we talked to less podcast about detraction of America's. I've chosen going to California <hes> as well as those connections that the performance of chosen is actually a hopefully people may not be the that where this it's from a BBC live concert in January January nineteen seventy-one and it was seven o'clock on a Sunday night 'cause I can remember sitting in my bedroom listening to it when it was being broadcast and I was listening to on we'd moved hangs about three months before and I gone up into the ethic and fan old brown bake alight radio with like a twelve inch base speaker on it on I brought it down and I knew plug on and I put it into the wool. It had <hes> I can remember whether you call them valves. We call them choose. The had valves tubes glowed on this thing just came on what <hes> on a couple of weeks later does led Zeppelin playing live on the B._B._C. for now and sort of follow. I'm from that story with that radio. It ran for about nine months and then one of the valves when an I took it to a place in Beck ahead the I'd found but did valves and I won't dinners at to the guide you have a replacement for that and he just looked at this thing instead. Where did you get this and it turned out that the valve of be made in nineteen thirty four so this this Radio Been Sabah and I actually still think the reason I spend fall too much time in fall too much money on hi fi is finding that radio so I chose it from that show it was also played? I I so Zeppelin twice. The second time was on my eighteenth birthday. Literally my actual eighteenth birthday take the bad news is for the best forty five minutes. They were really pretty ropy but then they got better so it was played earls court in seventy five and again you can see that on video and would you believe I saw Robert Plant last week Oh nice and having not seen him since nineteen seventy five and he played going to California so <hes> it felt felt an appropriate choice yeah. That's kind of Nice all right. Let's play that the woman slow still a drain. All you start Gore California l. a. four Oh someone told me there's a girl out <music> chances all the tail you that wall red to follow food right very cool so my seventies is withering heights for Kate Bush with by Kate Kate Bush for my wife <hes> when Lyndon I started dating not only did her one of her good friends lescoe head turn them onto onto John Hiatt and we discovered Hyatt. I threw Linda but she adored Kate Bush and she adored <hes> those albums and she has continued to be a fan <hes> when she was lovely enough to let me go to New York to see Bruce on Broadway <hes> she said there's no one I would travel for and I said Kate Bush and she said yes I would go to U._k.. To See Kate Bush perform you're right I would you know she's never seen her. So <hes> you know that unmistakable high voice ci never similar to cliff Richard's never had mainstream success here in the U._S.. <hes> did the wonderful duet with Peter Gabriel. It's you know several years ago so which is just heartbreaking <hes> but kate what you've just you've just desi summed up why I look talking about music because you mentioned embarrassed place which happens is to be my wife's favorite gruesome at nine was cold. Mary and it evokes old at the same members. You talked about evil say just mentioned the one artist. My wife cannot stand select kate. Kate Bush is banned in the house. She has a very short list of Cape Bush steady denim PAP Athenee <hes>. I can't play while she's around anything else. He's fine <hes> but that just shows have people have different views on music exactly and so you we'll have to win. She listened to this podcast which I hope she does. You'll say okay. We have to skip ahead thirty. She'll skipped his skip so very nice here we go. We'll ask your lovely bride not to listen but for the rest of this here is withering nights <music> <music> <music> all right. We're up to the eighties okay so <hes> I'll probably make myself unpopular with annot some friends. Who will these do the beautiful thing in this <hes> but I think the eighties was a great decade for music? <hes> you know the <unk> still good stuff in there but I think so. Mitch Eighty s just sands so eighteen thousand syndromes and all that <hes> and I guess when I was I was looking this. My reflection was today. We have you know old of the music the Wilda all fingertips I think that's the sunset one of a literally the ability to go into spotify title and just ceases and I pass Nathan that's fantastic but I do miss the sort of excitement wind on the radio and think what's that and then you'd hear it maybe a couple of days later and suddenly you'd fan this new Song <hes> on the song chosen <hes>. There's a merry thing <hes> actually Ashley is Sonko. Mary's it's by abandon called Danny Wilson <hes> their Scottish band <hes> they they actually released three albums but they only the first one had any success. This is one of those songs that in almost refused to fail so it was released I think twice and then there was there was a rate was polled in one of the music magazines of the song that should have made it in eighty eight and it came out top often it got released and finding success but it's just one of those songs that even now if I've got things on Shifa Laura listen to radio and you know the nine is everything is wonderful. Being here is heavenly and it's just this this beautiful on three minutes forty-three seconds of I think it's fantastic pop and whilst a lot of as I say eighteen music I think sans so eighties this for me has this old of the positives eighteen and it's one of those songs that it doesn't matter what mood amid if this comes on then I've got a big smile on my face. I I am not familiar with this one so I am looking forward to hearing this. Let's play a little. I bet everything has more every single. Everything is Zip when I was saga certain off big of me and say so it the one so the sale okay very nice chiefs I <hes> my eighties. There is for those who've been following along <hes> talking about the eighties music was kind of the way was the gateway to US getting set less than Bruce. I had to cover my favorites albums of the eighties for the eighties overdrive <hes> podcast and then we did a discussion with a couple of people discussing bruce in the eighties uncovered all his albums well. I'm not picking Bruce but I picked Brian Wilson's love and mercy which came out in eighty eight his first true so album it is a song that <hes> speaks to me about <hes> wishing love and mercy on the world <hes> it is become iconic with him. <hes> you know he was talking about that. Supposedly he was playing what the road needs now and kind of worked into this own song <hes> certainly a the title of the amazing movie made on his life <hes> and it's just I've heard <hes> other the people cover it. It's just a it is how he ends his live shows now <hes> you know and <hes> <hes> Bano once said love and mercy is one of the great eight songs ever written. I can't even greater song to be Sung Than Brian Wilson seeing love and diversity because in a way the two feelings that those terror is sought to destroy this is one for me so it was my hands on Nineteen mm-hmm uh-huh aw you are right get it all right. We got the nineties the nineteenth so yeah from I said I didn't think the he's the greatest decade for music and I think that probably fed over into the early nineteenth to me <hes> as well as the fact you know I was doing the the classic sort of Mid Thirties I got married paid my son Candlemas Bowl in one thousand nine hundred ninety you know what was rewarding Radi challenging and wiggins city hours so <hes> probably anytime in my life easy go pushed a bit to the back just through like time but then there was a couple of things that were as Catholics to really getting back into ironic one wiz. I got a new job I joined Microsoft but actually thing was I had a really long drive to the office <hes> and so do I invested in a sort of top end system for the car in that got back into hi fi and that got me back into listening to music series the other thing. was you know again anarchy going back to U._K.. But that's my perspective you know this thing called Brit pulp arrived roundabout ninety full and we had the the oasis <hes> Blah <hes> sort of shootout who was going to be the most popular and it was just like the Beatles stones <hes> on the irony is I ended up being a much bigger Blur Damon albarn Fan than I was if I races but the Waza period I guess end of ninety five hundred ninety six six were wherever you went in the U._k.. I remember you know go into to business conferences and I waste would be playing. You know you walk down the street. Oasis would be playing and you mentioned before Jesse Bat you know those family nights lights when people are coming round and all of that the the image that sticks in my head was it was one of my nieces car. It was eighteenth birthday so I was I go back and check the date June fourth nineteen ninety-six six and does this big family policy. It's an ability toll and the D._J.. Plays don't look back angered by oasis and I remember standing there and looking and you know five year. Old children were singing. My Dad ad was singing. Everybody was singing chorus on for a cipher of about six months it re. It really did feel like so that the Beatles were back that there was no one in the U._k.. Who didn't know who races were? There was no one who didn't know that that song go wonderful so whilst I'm not actually massive fan of the band back to those rules we talked about Adia on this will always be for me sort of ultimate nineteen and that is greatness. I agree. Let's let's hear a little bit of it. I don't know about a place to but out of Sir so so the summit Yeah uh-huh in in one of the things that I'm going to put my old man you know persona on in today's music world we all have so much segmented. There is a Sirius X._M.. Channel for anything I feel like listening to in fact we rotate through different channels at my job and I can listen to <hes> you know. My phone has <hes> sometimes I love to hit shuffled. Just I never know what I'm going to get but you also could just I wanna hear a bruce show. You know I wanNA hear Brian Wilson. I WanNa hear Jason is bill. You don't get that where you turn on the Radio Jio and you never know what you're going to get correct and everyone knew those songs and so I think that's a perfect example of you talking about the feeling of that we're all kind of combined combined together so lovely story my nineties. I almost broke my rule in had another song from a artist but <hes> I decided no so <hes>. It's okay to go with the original <hes> the song one by U._2. Johnny cash has done did an amazing cover of it if sit with his <hes> his American American recordings were just a really special <hes> I <hes> there are there songs I listened to that. Just make me <hes> dance you know when I talked about <hes> on perfect pop you know a Barry White Song lyrics really don't mean anything it's just I'm just enjoying <hes> but there's other songs that speak to me me and and hear me and one is a song that I I love and the you know we have to carry each other <hes> and I I believe that I believe leave that we should be here for each other and so you know kind of one kind of with love and mercy together kind of talk about what I want the road to be and what I what kind of life I try to live so so the nineties. I picked one by U._2. Nice choice. Thanks here we go you. Do you feel make it easier now. You got one with lease <music> glad you will need it okay. Hey we're getting close. We only got a couple left all right so now we're at the `oughts the old the notes also whatever and so this was this was an interesting one because if it was just a musical choice I guess that's one of the things made it's come out of this. Compensations does music and then the Zola's connections and it was just a musical choice than it would have to be something from Wilcox that to me. They were my band of the note so they will <hes> and just the completeness. The track would be impossible Germany however the most significant thing that happened to me in this decade was the on August second to estimate. I got married to my lovely White Laura <hes> on the song. I've chosen should have been the song that she walked down out. She actually down the aisle to fest my live by Bright Eyes which I thought was a pretty good choice and the reason she didn't walk then they ought to this song engage we literally discovered on our honeymoon and the song as Colts stallings and the band is a British band yet again Jesse from the Gulf <hes> but a bank old elbow and there are a number of reasons why this would have been the perfect sort of wedding song because it includes the lines. I site you. Dan Untold you have the truest <unk> that's ever found is for oneself you pulled upon my theory with a weary and disinterested cy. I swear Laura and I had that conversation literally. It also has the line <hes> the bucket brilliant nine. You're the only thing in any room you're Everen <hes> which I've always thought if you're looking if you look into one line the poem that's probably pretty good really beautiful. Is that perfect well but this is where you get that Nolan sort of humor that comes in because the final thing gays that there is let's say there's a noticeable age gap between Laura and I and so it actually reads this way you all the anything in any room you're ever in. I'm stubborn selfish into old so basically we all convinced Guy Garvey read this song this song for as and to go back to my video theme on this album by the way there's another Sung Koo one day it was another one of its another one of those songs that just United People but <hes> elbow were invited by the B._B._C. Concert Orchestra to play the album live with them Abbey Road Studios on. I would recommend it to anyone forty five minutes just sheer genius and you know Guy Golfie tokes stars is <hes> Glenn Miller played late in this whole you know the Beatles people only averted them so there's this very northern bolt in accent and then he opens his maximum this beautiful voice so highly recommended. I'm not needless to say a very special fit the ma'am <music>. How the premia no my vacation so the bone she second on my list things stocking walking by your place if we cannot seem why haven't dreamed of you and I and marriage in orange you all the only thing any still unselfish into ooh very nice? My two thousand is for my son and <hes> Chris went through a stage where he loves metallica he still has a a great love of hip hop and but he he went to school in East Texas and there is a pretty serious country <hes> feeling there and <hes> he picked up liking some music and then I had discovered an a singer Songwriter <hes> that was very active in country music called Brad Paisley. <hes> Brad is a wonderful guitarist. He writes some great songs along with you know other songwriters and there was a time when Chris's says Freshman Year in college he kinda screwed up a little bit. I won't go into the details. He was depressed. His mom was very angry at him and Chris kind of felt like at nineteen. His life was over not in a Oh. I need to go kill myself but just in you know depress. I played Brad Paisley's letter to me and if you don't know the song it is exactly what it seems. He is singing about if I could ready a letter to me and send back in tone to myself at seventeen and and he says toward the end of the song you've got so much up ahead. You'll make new friends you should see your kids in wife and I'll end by saying have no fear these these are nowhere near the best years of your life and he got through it. He is now a wonderful twenty nine year old man. He is uh-huh doing absolutely amazing at his job. He has a wonderful fiance. They are planning their wedding next summer and after we've had a few beverages usually when I'm driving home he will pull up letter to me and he'll start crying in you'll hug me and <hes> so for Chris Jackson <hes> letter to me but Brad Paisley corrego stops. Tom Always stop complete. Don't just is in ten. You get a day with bridget. Make sure the tank is all second. Forget turns out can coup agent eighteen every time you find your wrong and dad is right and you should really thank Miss Brain. She spent so much extra time like she sees diamond none underneath and she's Polish much Dolan no no it's obscene fast Friday nine Joyce Dan Dan Because of you Lounge Palm Dad me swing your still round round as ladder sir all right fantastic storage. I you know I can get emotional but you already but can and I think that's the beauty of this <hes> I could have picked and we'll go to our last song shortly but I you know I I could have picked like I almost picked Sam Cooke to change is GonNa come because that's one of my favorite songs and and I had other songs that I could have picked that I just adored and I of course to make it a little different. I wanted to share as I said. This is my musical autobiography biography based on songs that kind of tell about myself. I I love what you're done with it. That's all right so your final song so Mo- funny not the final song ever absolutely in a couple of years. We'll do a follow up. Okay so <hes> well I guess before before I say the the final not and I referred to this area about you know and you also said it just we've got we've got access to so much music these days but one of the things that noise May and I have to say a tends to be males and it tends to be males of all sorts of vintage I am you use the phrase beverage before they'll typically have a beverage in the hand and they will lend tell you that there's actually being no decent music made since one thousand nine hundred to really annoys me because I actually passionately believed that the as but chick mortgage museum ran now than ever you know I can tell you the rubber plants spend the night. Some people will say this Harris played for better than the two times I still Zeppelin so that that is an annoyance for me and what I wanted to do in sort the last choice and again that was looked options you mentioned Jason is bell before and now I think he's one of the greatest songwriters to come at the last few his stunning is Nashville this past album just amazing <hes> so who am vampires almost made my list but the song of chosen he's he's actually read is by war on drugs. <hes> on the reason is that it's for me to Song An. It's a band who they have already distinctive sound. I think it absolutely sands now but there's also in a good way. There's an awful lot less fifty years of music in there <hes> so if they felt like <hes> felt like a good good way of to use a springsteen it felt summation in felt like it pulled things together and is a piece of software called Rune to manage Oh my music play stuff and they have an I loved this quite which was summoning summoning summoning up the patron saints of F._M.. Radio rock the band is an update to the wild eyed sermons of Dylan springsteen and the summit abandoned. Tom Petty perfected all filtered through wolves of India tall noise an egg depravity all of their own. I just think Aspirin Ryan so I think a bit like were drugs music. You know flowery flamboyant a bit pretentious the big ambitious ambitious creative music. I'm always going to be for that say war on drugs all right here we go mm-hmm here. uh-huh <music> all right that is awesome so the question is is he going to go through a whole list without picking springsteen song and the answer is no okay now this one I cheated a little bit technically land of hoping dreams was released in the late nineties during the tour the reunion tour however it's official release was on wrecking ball. It was indeed which was twenty you know which was in the twenty twelve I have said very many times that my favorite Bruce springsteen songs <hes> are better days and land of open dreams and then the third one changes every day and I gave a lot of thought to nineties being <hes> better days but <hes> there's just something about the song it makes my heart sore. Every time I start hearing that sound there are things that go on with your life and by the way I played this on that trip back to college with Chris Jackson <hes> I will provide for you and I'll stand by your side. You'll need a good companion for this part of the ride. Leave behind your sorrows. Let This Day be the last tomorrow they'll be sunshine and all the starkness passed. I just think that today in every day you know the idea of let's shoot for a better future. Let's put aside the our past than our sorrows <hes> so I had to end with that one because Levin mercy one land of Hope Dreams if I had a manifesto Ooh what I wanted my life to be that trilogy would at least be what I'm trying to shoot for the yeah yeah <music> all right there we go to old guys schering their life and you know fourteen songs <hes> I did not make any plans but I thought ask you is there. I did you have any close that you thought about that. You hated hated to not pick. Oh I mean the agonizing over <hes> over the song selection as being as being awful but I think that's that's that's part of the process and if I look at how many revisions divisions of gun since I kick myself but I now know 'cause we committed say tape but whatever whatever digital media <hes> and I feel if you take aways in the ninety s that was a late edition <hes> and I feel really good about that because I think it really does. Some you know that decade for me <hes> I actually had one of the guys that came in a couple of weeks this guy he chose Romblon as sixty some by Zeppelin and I look human oh city boy. It's obviously the seventies and then went checked realized he was right so I had to change that selection but now I I mean my my my comment would be this is I am not gonNA pretend that this was in my head when came up with the format but you've just proven in this in this hour. It's a great way to have a dialogue with people and to find things and I mean the one story I would like to finish with a friend of Mine Chris <hes> he was actually the last person to come round and do this and is eighties. Choice was the pixies and we started talking about. How did you find music and he grew up in Minnesota? He grew up in a fall aw he was in the middle of nowhere. He didn't have access to music in the only two things he had would. He could get a subscription to rolling stone magazine on his died. As my dad did had a subscription to the Columbia record club and what Chris used used to do is a fifteen year old was look at the college gigs and charts and if any of the names in there were available on Columbia he persuaded that to buy him the out never having heard and by the way he then says that that's how I found the pixies R._E._M.. The Smiths and <hes> and I just thought that was brilliant story about sort of music and what people do and and nice to find that but people because you know. I didn't really know about his background MINNESOTA. It's not Sunday. We talked about it work. It's after so yeah I <hes> hope. Hopefully we can take this forward. It's a good way for the people to let them. I totally agree Terry. You know <hes> desert island discs is a similar format <hes> in <hes> and I find that interesting because it is <hes> you know not only the Bruce episode but Tom Hanks and other people. I've heard them talk and it really does give you a chance to kind of share their life. <hes> and I love the idea of the decade. <hes> you know in originally when I started doing this like i Mac the knife was always going to make the cut nineteen fifty-nine there was a limited amount of songs but I had you know the Cheryl's will lovely tomorrow. Johnny Cash Ring Afire <hes> Al Green. Let's stay together. You know just songs I love that I never get tired of and the more I thought about. I went no I. I want this to say something about me in it isn't it isn't the right way to do it. It's just the way I chose to do it so this is where we go to our listeners. Did you guys like this. <hes> let us know because we I think this would be fun and change of pace episode <hes> different way to kind of share your background also an idea to share other music <hes> so you can reach out to us at set lessing bruce gmail.com <hes> i. I am on twitter at Jesse Jackson D._F._W.. The show is at settlers thing bruce on twitter terry if they WANNA reach you yeah <hes> I'm Chitra Terry scrabble on my email is Teri S._m._i.. My <hes> at hotmail good so let us know what you think. <hes> I did want to share the wonderful comment that complement you got from one of our best listeners a very dedicated <hes> she. She said that you're Mary question was the best answer ever thought made my day. I have to say I I agree. I I thought that was just so perfect that they wanted to do that and she took the time to share some yeah. It was just so lovely <hes> any final thoughts that I've just thoroughly enjoyed it and the eye. Let's see what the feedback is but we can do more because it's great absolutely and <hes> yeah. We just need to volunteer to do this. We're we're ready but for now. Thank you guys so much. We appreciate it. <HES> <HES> and we hope you're decades are filled with wonderful music. Talk to you soon uh-huh.

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TTWT Martha Southgate Part 2

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

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TTWT Martha Southgate Part 2

"Hello and welcome to today's episode of settling Bruce. During Music Talks Week <hes> today we have the second part of our discussion with Martha Southgate she she explorers her musical choices for the second half <hes> she tells more great stories and I hope you'll enjoy it. <hes> I will see after the show to give you a few notes all right. We're hitting the pots. Okay this one. I can't technically say the name so I'm going to have to get creative because Publica it's by Martha wainwright right and it came out in two thousand five and it's a bloody mother F._e._M._a.. Okay have you guys know so I know the above is under the mouth is great and it's about her dad. Loudon wainwright third <hes> who wrote the song daughter which is <hes> robs and Molly Song that that they love and so this song kind of Bali was <hes> when I told her. I said she loves the Song Song and I said she goes but I can't ever sing it. I was like now one of those one of those things but when I told her that she wrote it about her dad who wrote daughter about her. She's like boy. Their relationship changed a lot since they were you know oh but but I got this song off Gillian Anderson's playlist on she had created a playlist of journey of her life and I was listening to it and this song <hes> I think I listened to it for three days straight on Luke because it hit me at such a time <hes> and was so <hes> desperately needed now it didn't. I didn't start listening to it until recently so this was not like I was listening to it then but it's when it was when it was <hes> released so I went with that but <hes> but anyway the what it says is <hes> I'll give you some of the I was just I google the lyrics <hes> and and <hes> I'm reading this. This is a very powerful slid as a beautiful beautiful song <hes> and <hes> so here I have <hes> you say my time. Here has been some sort of joke that I've been messing around on some sort of incubating period for when I really come around I'm cracking up and you have no idea no idea how it feels to be on your own in your own home with the F. and phone and the mother of gloom in your bedroom standing over your head with her hand in your head with with your with her hand in your head I will not pretend I will not put on a smile. I will not say I'm all right for you. When all I wanted was to be good to do everything in truth <hes> this song represents my family of origin and and and the only people I've ever <hes> had relationship with that was not authentic and was not true to who I am in my core and everywhere else in my world <hes> is so different than than than the than how I am with these people and no longer with these people but when I when I was still in relationship with them and <hes> and it really <hes> resonates with me the you know I will not pretend you know I will not put on a smile? I will not say I'm all right for you because the whole thing was about maths gain and about <hes> about denying my truth and denying the truth of our situation and our family and and <hes> and having to be forced to lie my whole life and so <hes> this really about killed me when I heard the first time and I was like Oh my God you know like she just said it so beautifully and and I was sitting there actually you know the the first time that the lyrics really really you know hit me. I was actually holding the phone <hes> trying to call my mom and I kept dialing and it would I wouldn't hit send and so then it would disappear off the phone again and then I'd have to read so I had to revile like fifty times because it was like just just hit. Send you know but then the whole time unlike but hi can't lie anymore. I'm not gonNA pretend for you so if I hit this button I have to be honest and I if I hit this button we have to be authentic and I don't know that we're capable of doing that. Fifty Years in you know what I mean so so hearing those words you know you have no idea what it's like. You know what it feels like to be on your on in your own home with the with the phone and I'm sitting there holding the phone going Oh my God and the mother of gloom you know in your your bedroom in your head like just with her hand in your head like to me that was so powerful and so <hes> visually stunning and so accurate for what I felt like and <hes> and so oh yeah so that sort of marks that this time in my life where where I'm saying that ends here because nowhere else in my life and my inauthentic and I can't do that anymore like it was never okay for for me and <hes> and now it's really really not okay and I'm not I'm never going back to that so it's it's such a story of empowerment in a story of embracing what you are. You're in what you want to be. <hes> lovely just so lovely it's employed and her son her voice. I mean when you like reading the words doesn't even begin to do it justice but her voice and the way she she says the title over and over and over and you think those words would be ugly or you think those words would be angry and they're not they're sad and they're so full of hurt and they're so beautiful and she's he's just saying that over and over and over and you just feel that pain of it doesn't have to be this way. You're choosing this and you need to stop because you're paying this. You know like you're just being a bloody but it's but it's such it's just just so beautiful you are has been some sort of some sort of incubator really <hes> it feels to be on your mother your head with a with a hand in your head <music>. I wish I wish I was yet again. Thank you and I will really listen to that and listen to it through a different light. Have you also listen to dinner eight by Rufus wainwright all right. I'm writing all these down so so dinner at eight by Rufus wainwright. I Love Rufus Yeah so that's Rufus is song to his dad. Oh that's just this is nice. Seventy two is actually somebody. I really liked in his early days. He's still touring. He was in Glasgow last week. I think my understanding is that they are still have a relationship clearly. He's got a lot of stuff to look back on yeah. One of one one of my biggest musical regrets was we had tickets so I have my list of his great gigs. I've been too and then his the gigs that we are the missed or had tickets to missed probably my biggest and we went to see the Queen Film. Unless by the I ten down tickets for live aid oh wow well I been down to London to see springsteen the weekend before and didn't WanNa make the trip twice so I decided to watch on television not my smartest decisions but yeah we had tickets to see a Whiz at Christmas show at the album hole with Kate and Anna mcgarrigle. I'm with Rufus. Martha and there's there's also a loose Lucy Roche weight right so it was basically the family other than the dad we have raised going to we couldn't we couldn't make and then <hes> Kate mcgarrigle died the following year and there as again. It's probably now Netflix but you can certainly get on d._V._D.. There is a memorial concept that they all dead which is just incredibly moving. I'm upset you brought him but yeah those those two songs are are are an interesting between per to listen to it. I'm not sure how you feel if you'll the fatherless like as as a mom you know I tell my daughter all the time especially having had a difficult relationship <hes> with my parents and having obligations put on me that you know that that aren't appropriate <hes> or you know I tell her all the time when you you know you make your choices when you're grown if we haven't haven't created a a place that you wanNA come back to. You're not obligated to come back like that's on us you know and if and if you want if you don't come home for Christmas Christmas is just a day of the year we can do. Christmas we could say Christmas is on the twenty eighth or January fourth February eighteen. It doesn't matter it's Day an if we're want to celebrate it a different day. We can celebrate a different day if we if we want if you want to go to a cabin with your friends you go do do that and you don't have to be. We're fine. We were fine before you got here. We're going to be fine after you're gone. We we love you and we'd love to hang out with you but that's not that shouldn't be your goal in life is to please us and so I did say though you'll like this <hes> I said to her but I understand the dad and I are going to be sending you selfish from Disneyworld giving you the finger. We're going to be in Paris with the Eiffel Tower behind us giving you the finger going hope hope you're enjoying the cabinet with your friends loser so now our family like we tease each other. You know but it's like it's like you have to accept the consequence. We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA go to cool stuff without you but on I of the contrast of the remarkable informed visionary. Hey it's a free world. It's your choice. There's no obligation but if you make that choice you're really gonNA suffer the yourself you know but she's like Oh my God that's so you guys been totally. Do them like we kidding but yeah well. I'm I'm living that right now. Chris is twenty nine <hes> you know he him and Eric lived together. They're planning the wedding this summer kind of in late November Chris and I were talking and I said you know we really try Bri- hard to give you guys space and he said yeah he says in fact for a while there was like hey does mom and dad not like me anymore and I said Said you know Chris if it was our way you know we'd see you and Eric every weekend but <hes> we want that to be very you know you have an open door in this is still your home and so yeah it absolutely and we this Christmas was our first Christmas where he was not with us. He was with her parents in Colorado and so we specifically Linda said I can't stay home. It's I'm going to be too sad. I'm glad he's with <hes> Erica's parents I mean I think it's the right thing to do but if we have Christmas at our house it's just gonNa feel like this big hole we went and visited family all that weekend went to three different houses over the five days and had an absolutely lovely holiday and then you know she missed him a little bit and I missed a little bit. We talked on the phone but it was absolutely good so and the thing that I learned yet the other thing I learned I'm from my mom is my side of the family has a lot of divorces and remarriages and so there's extended families and you know people to take and mom would always say okay Saturday the eighteenth. That's my Christmas yeah. We're GONNA open. We're GONNA do the tree. I'm GONNA have dinner. We're going to celebrate everyone just been don't worry about Christmas received Christmas Day yeah and I always thought that was genius on her part because not only did it make it easier for people but she got more people visiting her that Oh absolutely and I always tell molly you know you're not responsible responsible for our feelings. It's up to us to manage their feelings and so so we do the same like you know <hes>. You'RE GONNA go do that. Okay then we'll we'll find something you know there. There are lots of things we enjoy being together her best friend and and we have endless things to do an endless you know <hes> you know new adventures to and and <hes> and we're always creating new new businesses like don't leave us alone own for any period of time because we tend to but yeah but I but it's the same thing. It's it's saying will manage our feelings you go to your you live your life. Let us leave us to manage how that makes us feel but that doesn't reflect talked on you and it's not your responsibility <hes> for us to be happy and and <hes> an or for us to be whole you don't have to be here for that and and actually like we're the worst because she she so much more mature sure than we are that and we have food allergies and she'll be like you can't eat that like so the second she's gone. Oh my God he and I are like a rebellion teenagers and we will go to the store and buy everything she won't let us eat and we will inhale it and then go continue smell this come home and smell it on us. Yeah reminds me that my <hes> my son Callum who's now twenty eight but literature thing he was thirteen and he uttered the phrase. It's such challenge bringing parents at these days. Oh my God that is our daughter Yes. She looked at me and the one day and she goes. I cannot believe that I'm having to tell my child. I mean my mother. I said Oh let me explain to you. What a Freudian slip is because that was it right? They're so funny yeah you know I I knew that we had done a lot of things right. When it was <hes> Easter Sunday we had all gone to mass and so you know it's huge crowd ouled and <hes> Linda had saw a friend of hers and so she went to go talk to her and so she was off and I was heading to the car and Chris came to me and said Okay you stay here? I'M GONNA go get mom. I'm like okay so and he went and got Linda and brought back and it was truly like he was the parent like yeah. Okay you stay here. Get your sister and it was yes. It was <hes> and yes yeah so that's a new and I just have to look forward to that happening. More and more took absolutely wander off again exactly and <hes> I loved about this story is you and robs togetherness. <hes> uh-huh during the bad times when Chris was at his teenage rebellion and pushing in his early college years <hes> when there'd be harsh words between especially Linda and Chris they I mean Chris and I had our problems too but it was much more <hes> Linden Chris because I think they're so alike. Linda would say look. I've been friends with your dad way longer. Longer than you can't split us apart yeah all right. We're a team and we're going to be team. After you're gone. I love that yeah yeah and I think that's hard for the only child because they do feel like the third third we all the time and when especially when the when the parents are are so connected and and you know so yeah it's <hes> we try to we try to balance that out a little bit but it is. It's it's hard to his but one of the great things now is <hes> Chris just goes. I was young and dumb yeah. Just you know and that kind of ends the picking you know it's like yeah I guess he you know he just just embraces in that so absolutely wonderful okay so now we're up to current okay so this one I did brave by Sara Beret. I think that's how you say your last name and the reason I picked this one is because it is <hes> when I turned fifty actually just before I turned fifty when I realized I was about to turn fifty 'cause it hit me like freight train. Well those are slow. It hit me like a really fast moving train whatever that would be <hes> and someone said it one day and all of a sudden I went what and they're like well. When you're you're going to be fifty? I was like I'm I'm not what no and in and Mike where where did that come from. I'm I'm thirty eight. I'm pretty sure I'm thirty eight and they're like no. You're fifty and two months you know so I went to bed like I actually took to my bed and had freak out and I was like where to go. I wasted wasted all my time like I'm fifty. You know I it just it just hit in in the most painful way and I just thought I don't i. I don't know how I got here here and I don't know how I wasn't intentional with those years and and I and I felt like I screwed everything. I know it was like Oh my God. What did I do like I can't get back? I can't get that time back and now I am too late like Oh my you know and it just it was brutal and I had a very very difficult summer and just kept like I just could. I was doing just enough to to to function to get molly where she needed to be but beyond that I was like I'm I'm Don. I'm like I'm toast. I can't even process what I've done with my life and so <hes> in August so he turned I turned fifty fifty in June and then robbed turned fifty July and August <hes> I started reading. We were going to <hes> Rob. Rob Got me of V._I._P.. Package <hes> for Wizard World Chicago to meet Gillian Anderson and David Duchovny and I'm a huge X. files fan but I have been closeted exile stand for twenty five years like I would not talk about it. I didn't meet people I didn't go to. They were at wizard World Chicago. Two years ago I had trespasses. I would not even go in the room like the celebrity route like which is massive. I was like I I'll I'll die. I'll embarrass myself and I regretted that for for two years so he saw this and he's like I'm getting you this and and you're GonNa go and you're going to meet them and and and you know you're going to push through this and you're gonna be so so Jillian had come out with a book called we women everywhere and it's a manifesto for women <hes> she wrote with her best friend in which and it's all about the the things she wished she had been told in her twenties so all of sort of their life lessons they've learned in and Jillian turned fifty in August so we all turned fifty at the same time and <hes> so it's it it yeah so it was kind of timeless I was reading her book and it it changed my life in that moment like I got me out of bed and and I really just turned a corner and so when so when we went up to meet her <hes> now I don't know if you've ever met celebrities that at a comecon but you get like thirty seconds you know and so I was anticipating that like Oh got. I'm just going to be able to go hi okay <hes> high and then she'll just say what do you want me to sign so instead. We got up there and she says Tamale Oh. How old are you in Mali's like Oh? I'm eleven in show. My son is eleven you know and a and then I I I handed her. The book and I said You know I turned fifty in June and she's like I just turned fifty. It's like Oh my God. I'm June July August you know like your way out and and so I told her the story and I said I'm I said you know your book got me out of bed and she just her eyes welled up with tears and she was like thing and she wrote on the <hes>. <hes> thank you for sharing your story. Welcome to the rest of your life on the book and Man she starts. She's she was like writing it and she goes. Oh I forgot how to write and I started laughing. I go that's okay I forgot how to read and then Molly's like oh I do that all the time which is true because she's are absent minded professor and I said Oh my God at one time molly was three and she forgot how to sit down and she's yelling to us and we come upstairs and she's like Mommy and she's doing this weird thing I go. What are you doing she goes? I can't remember how to sit. She couldn't remember how to go from standing sitting cross legged on the floor floor and it was really funny but that's her like her brain is going such a whirlwind that she loses the easy things so some Jillian was dying. She goes one time. I forgot how to drive because I didn't even drive in for ten years and I forgot how to drive. I got behind the wheel and just went. I don't know what any of this and I was like. Oh my God we all started telling our stories we had so much time with him and she just kept talking and we were laughing and then somebody behind us was taking pictures he didn't know so we have the most wonderful pictures of her like it was it was a really cool experience but anyway what's the book called we women everywhere everywhere and <hes> and so it's just it was just a beautiful and it got me <hes>. I didn't the exercise though like I'm doing the things I am taking it. Slow not all the way finished the Mike trying to really apply it but it was it was really powerful for me and so what I decided at that point was I'm going to do fifty things this year that I have never done before and <music>. I'm that's so cool yeah so I have lived my life in fear. I've lived my life hiding. I you know and that's why we were laughing before. I'm like Yeah I'll put rob there. Go I'll and then I'll push you out of the way once. I'm comfortable you you know and so I was like I'm done kind of pushing them out of the way. Let me just stand on my own two feet and so <hes> our friend has has this beautiful camper of beautiful trailer that is <hes> parked permanently at a at a really cool campground almost like a resort and she lets us use all the time and it's about two and a half hours away and so it's a nice little getaway and it's nicer than anywhere we've ever lived. I mean it's a beautiful ihnen Scott Adak in a screen room and and it's just fantastic and so she's been letting US use it <hes> last summer we used it quite often and I would go and just kind of center myself and so I was walking the one night and I called him at the camper and I said can you come meet me. I said just put something for the T._v.. On for molly she'll be fine just come meet me and and he walked up and I said <hes> I'm supposed to do the keynote for the women and podcasting festival and his jaw drop I mean and this guy is known me for thirty two years and his job just dropped to the floor and he was like I have been praying for you to realize and he's like I would never have pushed you. I would never have have put that pressure and he's like but I just was praying that you would realize and I was. I was like yeah I have to do it so don't talk to me about because I'm GonNa Freak out and then find a way to bail on like just leave me alone and know that I'm going to do it and I did. I wrote a talk which I'd never done before I I got up in front of people plus film and like it was it was video I'm video and and I just sat there telling my you know so much like I laid myself open. I was like I am going really do. That's like if I'm going to get up there and talk to women about using their voice. I am going to tell my story and so this song I listened to the connection to the song is ready for a while since Berge so so so this long I listened to on loop <hes> I asked for help I talked to people to give to all so that I could actually do this because I have such paralyzing <hes> the public speaking stage fright you know and and I was like so <hes> one of my friends said do a superman close. I don't know I I'm GONNA fall over. She goes not that what what you're talking about that. You know I'm I am not that Superhero Person. I don't know what you're talking about so she showed me and she's like do it. For three minutes like hold for three minutes and it'll make you feel our fall and then <hes> you know I was trying to use everybody's tools you know and and the song I just kept on loop and so it says you can be amazing. You can turn a phrase into a weapon or a drug you can be the outcast or be the backlash of somebody's lack of love or you can start speaking up <hes>. Nothing's going to hurt you the way that words do when they settle needs your skin kept on the inside and no sunlight sometimes shadow wins but I wonder what would happen. If you say what you want to say and let the words fallout honestly I wanna see you be brave with what you WANNA say unless the words fall out and <hes> <hes> and for me my whole life it was don't you talk. Don't you dare tell anybody what's going on. Don't you dare ever ever ever allude to the fact that there is something wrong you have that smile on your face and you get through it and you shut up and actually I went to a therapist Ida doctor who sent me because I had an ulcer he is like go to Monaco you to go to this therapist and my is the woman called our house and my mom told her she's never coming back anything she anything that's wrong. She can handle on her own and <hes> so that was sort of my life was like this it does not exist you close your eyes and push it away and it doesn't <hes> do not talk about it so for me to get up there in front of people and say it out loud and with people staring at me then I don't know and and knowing that it's being filmed knowing that it's being recorded and this is permanent and what I say is going to <hes> you know live on but I I did it anyway and I was like you know what ah I might stock and I'm probably going to suck you know and and I and it might not <hes> it's. I don't know how to how to word what I'm trying to say but but I just kept telling myself there's there's one person maybe that needs to hear what I have to say and if there's one person that gets something out of this than I can do this I can be strong and I can be brave and I get up there and do it. If if it helps one person if one a person needs to hear what I have to say and <hes> and I talked a lot about you know having a daughter and the pressure of you know we could wear our T. shirts with our with our feminists words and all that but if I'm bashing pushing myself if I'm talking about how fat I am or that I can't be seen in this outfit or whatever then than those words on the shirt just become soundbites and they have no meaning there's no power behind them and and so I was talking a lot about that and and <hes> and then you know the power of our words and <hes> so yeah so that so I'm going to get to another part of the lyrics there my phone shut off <hes> and then <hes> everybody's been on their everybody's been stared down by the enemy fallen for the fear and done some disappearing bow down to the mighty. Don't run stop holding your tongue. Maybe there's a way out of the cage where you live. Maybe one of these days you can let the light in and show me how big your brave is so I did. I did it and so then I was like okay and I'm going to do this and I'm GonNa do forty nine other things that are scary and <hes> and I actually have my list but I want to read that I can be done twenty eight and I have June to finish so I want me to read them really fast time. No no no. I'm I'm trying to decide. If do you WANNA share the ones you've done and that time you've back I've done and then have have you back and to celebrate your birthday that you as love to do that yeah okay so fifty things I did. After fifty is what I called it. Okay I love this. I got out of bed. I took a walk. The walk was really important. That's why put that because I used to walk every day and then I went to bed and so taking that I walk was such a powerful step so that's why I took a walk. I told the truth I felt the pain. I let go when it rained. I let it <hes> I played volleyball with my bathing suit. <hes> I've I've publicly fan girled. I volunteered to be the documentary about X. Files. I put on costumes and allowed myself to be part of the story I do old. I found Beauty Odeon all things I attempted to host the game. Show I gave the keynote address. I hosted an event. I accepted praise. I didn't get sucked in. I noticed named it felt it and let it go. I got therapy. I volunteered to get interviewed interviewed on a podcast about music that is important to me. Gee I connected with my Phantom on Tumbler. I volunteered to be a Beta for X.. Files fan thick that was I loved edit and that was like they needed something. I was like Oh my God. I'm totally putting myself out there. I allowed myself to get paid. Never in my life have I have. I accepted that I have always tried to do volunteer or I have taken it in a horrible way like a churn and or devalued myself so that was a big deal. I assistant directed of a show. <hes> I accepted help. I accepted positive personal feedback. I acted in a commercial all the other day. How was really crazy and I called my mom? That's my list so far nice. It's a real it's a real honor to be one of the twenty eight seriously very much inspirational all stuff and <hes> given there is a Lebanese between his if I may the good news is that life really does begin at fifty. I was <hes> Laura. I got married when I was fifty one <music> but I have to say the last ten years of being on our eleven years of being a great year so it's it sounds like you're still brilliantly and you're gonNA have so much very very brief as but he the US you can remember when you suddenly realize you're going to be fifty kids. <hes> I have a similar experience of Iran being sixteen. It was actually I in fact a really good friend trumping than saying the days but <hes> Guy who was best man and I can tell the world we were everything in this restaurant and he was talking and he's a massive cricket fan on me basically said that him and his wife. WE'RE GONNA go down to Australia to watch. The actually is in a massive trip unless that's fantastic. Johnny said well. I decided the know Helen decided that we needed to celebrate my sixtieth properly. Am I looked at him and when what are you talking about and he said when I'm sixteen January and I literally distribute cushion. No no many said you say that Terry because if I'm sixteen January that means your fifty eight in May on it literally was this moment where I'm getting the first time any of my friends that have used the word sixty right all it was exactly that feeling of I demand a recount in somebody's somebody's stolen ten years what's going. Vehicle and how did I get here without without knowing that like why did I. Why did I get so complacent in my life that those years didn't count that those years didn't matter and the like okay very funny now? Just take me back to thirty now during the rehearsal you know that's the ideal on that one. I like you know. Give me thirty eight again. That was nice. You Know My my early thirties. We're still a little rough but my later thirties. We're pretty good and my forties. I think I did a good job in my forties of sort of functioning but but now Mike okay no no now I can. I can make account I volunteer my daughter and I have volunteered in a school an elementary school on Thursday mornings for our fourth year and so she was eight years old tutoring second grade reading okay and we taught taught third grade math and and work with kindergartners so so we've been doing this for four years and so one of the kindergarteners said to me <hes> last last year <hes> she two of them came up to me and they said how old are you and I said I'm going to be fifty. Can you believe leave it and they were like no. I don't think I look that old and the one goes no you don't and then she goes plus. Your hair is old and I was like yeah I feel you on that one you know but <hes> but it was it was so cute because she was you know she was so <hes> she was very sweet about it and you know so yeah it doesn't I I feel much better now and I feel all very hopeful very excited about the this here coming up and now that we just transitioned to twenty nineteen and I made it through the holidays the last few holidays I have lost a friend who who was forty two and left behind her two year old daughter <hes> died in her living room and her hospital bed <hes> and it was brutal brutal Christmas and then my dad died the next Christmas and <hes> so we have sort sort of been in grieving mode for for a long time in our house and Molly was doing a play this Christmas <hes> where she was the lead and <hes> professional play in Chicago and she played a girl L. whose grandfather was dying of cancer and Molly and my dad were quite close <hes> he was able to be for her what he couldn't be for me and I was very grateful for that <hes> and <hes> so <hes> so she <hes> <hes> so it was she had to go out there for twenty performances and talk about Flaine Open your soul she had this monologue she had to deliver was all about you know you'll never have another picnic with this person again again. You'll never do this like it's a void and she's just putting out there and then she would she was talking to this winter wealth in in she'd say you how because of something I remember and she goes but we how because we hurt and then she does this gut wrenching unchain Ha Wall and everyone in the audience sobbing in appearance this eleven year old who has to put her grief and and her pain on display twenty times in front of strangers and and it was just such a powerful thing to watch and <HES> and she did it so beautifully and so <hes> like she just it's acting to her is like breathing. She doesn't think anything of it and and she actually thought she was bad at it for a while 'cause she was like why is everyone thinks it's such hard work. I just get out there and and she's like maybe I'm not good real. Maybe I'm not good at it and we're like no no. That's not the case. It's it's just they. It's natural for you but but just yeah so we've kind of come out of this this period of our lives and survived another holiday and and <hes> and we did a thing like you were talking about how you just changed your holiday. Will this year <hes> <hes> we <hes> we were all up at like eleven thirty at night on Christmas Eve and I just looked at everybody and said what are we doing it. Let's just go open presents now. Let's just take the pressure off so we Christmas music on and and the fake fireplace on the T._v. and made it nice and cheesy. Hey let's just open presents. Now is like we need to not have it be what it always was. You're you're allowed to your aren't really and I was like okay. I might actually be able to do the holidays again if it doesn't doesn't have to be <hes> trying to recreate what it used to be because it's never going to be that <hes> some anyway there you go. I love this pick a partly because when Linda was <hes> training training for her Ironman <hes> she played this song over again and it's the idea and I love the lyrics yes of. I WanNa see you be brave. Yes not be brave. I WanNa see you you know I it just this and I think so much about courage is sometimes sometimes you make that choice <hes> and to do the things that make you uncomfortable the things you're afraid to do <hes> is is a really <hes> something we all should do whether we're in our twenties thirties thirties forties fifties or sixties so <hes> I just love that choice it is <hes> a song that I heard a lot while Linda was training and I just each time was stuck by how how beautiful it was and I love the sentiment yeah and when when I was thinking about it in terms of this audience and and the the one the lines that instant your history of silence won't do you any good. Did you think get would let your words be anything but empty. Why don't you tell them the truth and I was like I can't tell my family I can't? I still can't address it. You know with my family but I can tell these people like it doesn't have the MT anywhere else and and so yeah you have a history of silence but no one silencing you anymore you know and when I started I I wrote a chapter in a book I was asked to write a book about our ouch after about <hes> creativity and entrepreneurship and how you're creative and <hes> so I had to address the fact that that was killed you know like they were that was stifled and not not respected and not you know when I was growing up and <hes> very much something to be ashamed of of and not something to embrace and <hes> and I had to write about you know elements of my family and and did you guys ever see the movie tangled with Rapunzel she leaves the tower and then she swinging and she's like she's excited and then she's crying in the corner and then she swinging again and then she's crying in the corner. That was me writing that bat chapter because I was betraying the my captors you know train the people that had abused me and it was terrifying because I was doing exactly what I was trained not to do and but at the same time I was being true to myself and so I was elated in sort of excited I'm feeling like I'm being authentic and and this is me and I'm actually getting to see who I am and and then I'd be crying going. Oh my God. Oh my God. They're gonNA kill me. You know like this is this is going to be bad you know and and I read this quote that said if they wanted you to remember them fondly they should have behaved better and I was like on the sorry guys yes. Shoulda Freakin behaved better because I'm GonNa tell the story you know so you know so yeah so that so that song really <hes> you know. <hes> just really reminds me every time I need to do something that scary. I just put it on my headphones phones and I'll just go okay okay okay. You know it's a reminder that that that were that life wasn't working and the those beliefs aren't valid and they're not real and you want to keep doing that. You really think it's GonNa workout for you because this other way is however better and actually helps people you know and gives you a real life as opposed to this. Is this what you want molly to see everybody. <music> the disappear stop holding the shoe shoe in his <music> shoe shoe so there you go there my life and songs I saw thank you for your candour and your opening your heart so much Robert said he says you know I've talked to Martha a little bit about what she's GonNa. Do I think there will be a few tears there. has there been happy tears because I'm proud of you <hes> so much <hes> because sharing so much of yourself is just the gift that you're giving us so I appreciate it terry any overall thoughts you wanNA share absolutely the same volt in comments ready Jesse that says both I mean we set at the start. If you pour cassidy people think they know you well On. I mean this woman patiently. I'm I suddenly feel I know you a lot more than oversea. When we started in a think finishing on a Sunday with brave I think he's brave to come on anything like this old just told people and admit commit Walmart your experiences of being to the state of the frightens you the challenges you face <hes> I know I look and one of the great lessons to me in the last eighteen months of finishing wag and whilst I thoroughly enjoyed ninety percent of it you know life in a corporate environment on all of that as realizing <unk> statements how much more choice we have on what we do <hes> you know and what we try and all of those things so I'm this may seem anything say that I think all all have been great but I really look forward to listen back to this? <hes> you know that my wife Laura will definitely be listening to this so <hes> yeah I have so much yeah. I'm Linda does not normally listen to the PODCAST <hes> and I will say okay next time. We're on a road trip. You need to hear this one. This one's been pretty special so thank you so much. That means a lot yeah. Thank you. Thank you guys great all right so if someone wants to share ear how much they enjoyed it Martha. How can they reach you? I suppose southgate media group at gmail.com would be the best way to send an email and Terry. You're at glitter <hes> Terry scrabble and people can email me on terry a semi autonomous vehicle and I am at Jesse Jackson D._F._W.. You can reach the show at set lessening Bruce on twitter and end <hes> we have an email address settling brusett gmail.com and we will be <hes> we are in the process of spinning teatime with Terry to its own show <hes>. We'll have all communication yes <hes>. We just think it's a perfect though I'm hoping Terry will let me hang around as much as possible as much as you. Thank you <hes> if you want to be on the show and share your your musical journey though you may be a little intimidated after having Martha but that's okay. Everyone story is unique. <hes> I'm a firm believer that <hes> every springsteen fan has a story to share my want to capture after them and I believe everyone has can tell the story of their life through teatime with Terry so we want as many people reach out to us as we talked about on settlers Brusett gmail.com or get teri immediately scenario an email now at his email address until she want to be on the show and we can work this out <hes> any final thoughts Martha No. I'm just grateful for the experience I love love love talking about music and <hes> and this was a really nice. It was a really nice way for me to look back and see these these beautiful little moments in just go. Oh look at that and see how far I've come and see <hes> you know who's who's still here. After all these years you know and so it was very special. It was a really <hes> of a very therapeutic exercise and I appreciate it well. I think that isn't what and I won't I will speak for Terry and then I'll have him. Step in. I do not believe that was what the original intent was right. It's Terry said this was just for a chance for me to enter spend time with people and here's some good music <hes> but sometimes <hes> whatever God or the universe works in mysterious ways and it becomes more than you think it is and so I'm so glad that we have this premise terry any final thoughts hours. I was literally side with a big smile of advice. If eighteen eighteen months ago when I had my best friend rand to sit in the basement listen to music if you've <hes> in I do like the phrase but you know if you've played the video of elite infants time it'll be Sunday afternoon and you'll have a dialogue like we've just had I wouldn't have believed it so eight fifty great decade and six Senate into a pretty good one as well excellent excellent so thank you Martha. Thank you Terry Linda's looking at me like you know you've been talking almost two hours long winded. I have loved it so listeners. Thank he's so much we appreciate it and let us know what you think. We'll talk to you seeing spend my days and say <music> there. You go the second half of Martha's teatime with Terry <hes>. I hope you enjoyed this kind of lost episode. Martha Tote told great stories. It was wonderful talking to her. If you want to get more stories like this go to your favorite podcast player and look for music talks Terry Smith like subscribe download his episodes and you'll get more stories for this you can reach Terry at Music Talks Pot and outlook dot com. He's available on twitter at music talks pod. There is a facebook page. Please go and like it and <hes> you can reach me at Jesse Jackson D._F._W.. The show <hes> set lesson Bruce has its facebook page.

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Music Talks Crossover - Cover Version

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

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Music Talks Crossover - Cover Version

"Hello, and welcome to an anniversary celebration of set Bruce. That's right. The month to September is the fifth anniversary of me doing this silly podcast and I've asked a lot of former guests and special friends join me in a celebration and today. I am so happy. And pleased that Terry Smith is joining me Terry Welcome Hey Jesse. Great to be here and be part of the the anniversary celebration as someone who's only just past the one year mark. I look forward to you and I having this conversation about music talks in two thousand and twenty four. Absolutely. What was Nice as? Ken Rosen reached out to me and he's writing up a It may already come out by the time we release this, but he's talking to me and he's gonNA write a little write up about settling Bruce for backstreets. That's what achievement that's great. And so am one of the things I told him I was most proud about is that I feel like a proud like uncle or godfather of music talks. Were you all? I am I go say all the time that It's not often that something is life changing and coming onto set list and Bruce was for me because that's what got me into podcasting and it's a great joy in my life. So it's great to be part of this. Great. So to pull the curtain back a little bit listeners I I have A. Of Consistent Fans and friends and brothers and sisters siblings. The podcast, I often email them and go, hey, I'm needing help or what I'm doing, and so I reached out to the team and I said Okay I wanNA celebrate September do you have any ideas and Terry took what was a casual comment? I made He was nice enough to invite me on his first anniversary show and I said you know I made a joke about I could probably do this for just bruce covers. Terry came back and said, okay I'm GonNa Challenge I'm GonNa put that challenge out to you. Can you do it and so that's what today's episode is and it's it's a great example I've learned that them throwaway comment sir great creative source. So well done for stepping up to the challenge. All right. So for those of you who may not have heard music talks and I understand I won't say shame on you because we're all busy and there's a lot of stuff out there but give us the concept and then kind of I'm GonNa turn the show over you so that we can go through the. Thanks just yet the the the concept is very simple. Holo what I've learned over the last fifteen months is that guests ability to play with the concept is never ending I'm but basically. The company simple, which is however overall. All pick a song from each decade of your life and. Tell us why those songs are important and what's been great for me and you were the first person to kick this off when we did the very first pilot episode Jesse was. Needless to say people talk a lot about music but it. Also talk a lot about themselves and their lives and some great stories, joyful stories that story. So we probably won't have the story element today although knowing Jesse Knight who knows. But, yeah, that's the principal pick a song from each decade life. So Jesse's twisted that too. I'M GONNA pick a song or he's going to pick a song. The was released in the decade that Bruce subsequently covered. So. Without further ado on on the basis with the same vintage. Jesse Inborn towards the end of the fifties Tokyo through your first choice please. So if we did a a subset. I've actually done this three times. Now I've done it originally onset lusting Bruce where I picks my songs and then for the anniversary I said you ask, do you want to be on again? I said, absolutely, do you want the same songs? You want pick different songs and I said well, just for the sake of conversation I'll pick different songs if. But Johnny cash is made all three list. I have noticed that. and. I think that is probably just because of the influence of my dad in how much he loved. Johnny cash and he is someone that I. Adore in just admire as a musician and a man and so. So my very first song for the fifties is bruce covering I, walked the line. Okay, and as with as is the case with a number of choices. This is actually a real rarity. It was sang checked twice on the darkness to but not played. An it's actually only ever been played twice That was both on the rising to. On this clip. Is from the first of those, which was at Fedex field in DC. So let's take a listen to a slightly scratchy version both Bruce Performance and sound of Bruce Doing. Yeah. Yeah who knows what the future holds, but if he ever decides to covers album and I'd love to hear him do that properly. The other interesting. If you look on Youtube in, you may have seen this the results. So clip. That shows him doing. A few lines of I will align into I'm on fire. which is, which is worth a, which is worth a look. Really S and that might connection there is, of course, I'm on fire as one of the songs that Johnny cash covered. And then the wiz, the Johnny ninety-nine album which I don't have. I am now going to by only because for the first time yesterday I saw the cover I don't know if you've seen it but. It is it is the best pager everson of Johnny Cash. But on narrators. Obviously Johnny Ninety nine but also does highway patrolman, which I know is a one of your favorite covers. And that may come up a few minutes later. Of, absolutely and. It just he. I guess. You know Rosanne cash has talked about how much her father loved music and you know if you've ever watched the Ken Burns documentary, she's talking about being on the bus in east starts mentioning songs and she didn't know and he ended up giving her this list of songs that he should learn and no, and then I think she if she did not bring Bruce to him, she certainly wasn't involved and. Johnny has done multiple songs of him and they seem to be In a regret that is truly not important but still you would have loved seeing them together just once or twice doing a song together been absolutely brilliant though I totally I totally agree. So Yep, who knows where that who knows where that route may take? So I'm from a rare choice in the fifties to an even rarer one in the sixties had told us through that will. So. The sixties is the toughest decade. To pick from because maybe the fifties, the sixties especially this was bruce's fertile where he gained musical consciousness and he has so much respect and love of fifties and sixties music that you you could. I could probably pick a double album of covers of things. He's done the sixties. And I really gave a lot of thoughts. You know there is this and I guess I. Didn't I'm not remembering right off now. Sir I really gave a lot of thought for the decade save the last dance for me because there's that great live. clip were at a concert for someone gave him a sign requests to sing a song for his mother because his mother's Day and Bruce this like this is great and he says I got to think of it and he did the last dance save a dance for me right there and save last s right which if you know the story behind the rider actually was in a wheelchair. So it was at his wedding day he saw his wife dancing with all these people enjoying it and the germ the song later came to be, and that's when he wrote it with his. Story, I'm Chris Yeah. So but I'm like, okay I've gotta go with the Beach Boys Song because there's Bruce and Brian Wilson the beach boys. and. And this is a very rarity of the. Of The beach boys. And And? For some reason, I. In as far as I know this is only happened once or twice but Brian Wilson's when I grow up to be a man. bruce covered it once and it is so nice to hear this adult man. If you remember the original, it's very poppy and with a lot of harmony, but there's also. A little bit of wistfulness and you could see Bryan even at that young age wondering what it's going to be like when I get older and am I still going to dig the same things that I did as a kid right and so when I heard Bruce do this. I fell in love with this version and so that's the one I picked Brennan. You may know this. I didn't one of the many things I love about during this podcast in thing is it's a catalyst for me to go and. To Research I knew this was slang castle. What I didn't know is that we in Ireland and we'll talk about that after we've had the clip but this was the first Gig he did after getting married. I did not know that which has you me is also why he chose to do the songs so that me gave it an extra little bit of poignancy. So let's hear Bruce serenading ninety five, thousand somewhat drunken Irish. Only. Foods. New. A A. Do. Do. You See. A. Brilliant. Don't, and I deliberately edited that The the end song. But if you listen the start of the clip, there is some and I mentioned about the ordinance been drunk. Some brave people who tried to stop this quite complicated clapping. With which the dissipates after the? So. Yeah I do actually no, I have some friends. who were at that Gig people I've met subsequently. Is Ninety five thousand people in this one, thousand nine hundred five, slane castle it never done a Gig before the there is a lot of rain beforehand. I'm basically the field that it was in sloped down. So it really was rather dangerous and anyone who read Brucie's biography there the piece in their worry apparently came off the days when they used to take a break and he came off in the intermission and had nothing probably is worth round with Jon Landau with genuine saying I'm not doing this anymore. I'm going to cancel the two. And if you read, you can see online is as well. He came out in the second half and warn. The audience come of it. But to he realized that the was this system that if someone fell over the person next to them, pick them up. And I think comment is it didn't look safe to me, but it seemed to work. So you go in and the sadness if I was. So again, yesterday when I was looking at this. The. The have over the years being little bits of clips of slane castle. View is that it was actually recorded so hopefully. Hopefully at some point, we will get sight of that. But Yeah, I'm a ninety, five, thousand cried I was watching live aid the of the week and you know there was no barriers. There was no separation the crowd they really didn't know what we're doing with concert them but I Great Choice Jesse and interesting that Brian. Wilson. Major I. have choices old music talks again. Now that you tell me the story that this is right after he got married that line will I love my wife for the rest of my life just actually made me tear up a little bit. Because a very, very poignant, very powerful. So thank you sharing that story. That's yes that would be a great if they're going to. You know as they continue to release archives, that would be a great show to release I. Look Forward To this good. There's gotta be a set of video archives. They start there start releasing. Let's see. So talking about poignant. Let's move onto the seventies choice 'cause that has a pretty poignant video with it but Let's go through that one. Yeah at the end of the. I Q when we were touring in, it was the. Depending on with you have kindness in your heart or a little bit of cynicism. The wrecking ball high hopes tour. It was the street orchestra or the ban on steroids depending on your perspective. But I was lucky enough to go to a couple of shows and seeing that many people on stage and feeling the joy of when they did. You know shackled and drawn in the end up doing the chorus line at the end and how picking up signs and. You'd have the background singers and the horns and everything. Just amazing. And toward the end of the tour right They put out a video to Kinda thank the fans. And it was dream baby dream which I did not know the song. But the video? Is. I haven't done the math but I would feels like. Eighty. percent of the footage is of the fans of the different people watching the show. and. I said many times. This video captures the magic in the joy of why I say in my friends Sam I giving the line with all apologies to Walt Disney. World. The Happiest Place on Earth is Bruce springsteen concert. And I can I I never get tired of watching this video. So we were on a trip, Linda Chris and I. And I casually mentioned Yeah Bruce just put out a new single. And he saw Oh. Okay. We'll play it and so. We played it and Linda in her charm. Well, that's pretty simple. Complicated as it. And Chris said, well, wait a minute mom play again. So he played it again and then Linda said. Plant. Walmart taught. And then all of a sudden, she's like that's actually very beautiful. and. There are times when Win, we are doing air tailgating at the house before we're GONNA WATCH DOWN THE DALLAS COWBOYS LOSE. The last song we play before we go into the House and turn on the game is string baby drove. it has become kind of a a family anthem because of that whole dramatic of her going last. Mary good and so it is The the. As you said Terry of course story so. The first seven times I saw, Bruce, he did not play thunder road. Wow. Just two, thousand, two was the when I first started in at first seven shows he did not play thunder road. So then when he was touring. He was ending the show, an acoustical thunder road or he would bring out the pump or do dream baby dream. And every show I went on a tour he ended with under road. And I'm never going to complain about getting Thunder Road live. Did kind of like once. Just once seen dream baby dream live. So. Yeah. It has special place in my heart and had to make the list. No, let's take Let's take a listen to not just of the DEVASTAT. Connection? That's great. Mark. slaw. SMART. See. This. Own. Own. So. It's interesting when you said Linda's that's that's not very complicated because the first time well, first time I had Laura with I was early days of our relationship. The devils and dust album just come out and some day friends managed to get his two tickets to see. Bruce Alcohol. So Laura at this stage was sort of getting into but certainly, bruce in the street band wasn't convinced by his solo stuff. So we turn up and may the second Songa did was reason to believe you know with the voice box the real sort of I call it the angry Tom Waits version in our member Lord at me frowning. I. You know and it was a fascinating gig. But of course, he finished with dream baby dream and then literally walked off stage as the pump organ played itself. and it wasn't just lower. I actually remember the audience everybody. It wasn't like people were move. It was people were slightly confused. But I then and ready. To have to say Lord did as well but I'm I've mentioned this to you before when we've talked on the. You know the re-ready shows that was a gig in Charlotte in two, thousand and fourteen which I think is it's right up there. I'm not going to bother on mask. But certainly in recent years the best set of And he came out and he he started the uncle's a darkness. He then did the wold and they released video which was so moving but he went straight from the wall into the angriest version of born in the USA ever heard him do. Straighten to born to run. He then deed. Dunton. In the dog tenth avenue freeze finished what had been an amazing show. Then he came back and did dream baby dream and I am not ashamed to say that I am a lot of people including my wife just cried because with absolutely beautiful. And then that video came and light you I have a group of friends. I'm involved in a great group called Action Happiness. And needless to say, they've noticed the I like springsteen. And we were doing this. We were doing this little event. The House one of them said. You. What do we want to go through and one said, I'd love to know why you live Bruce springsteen sandwich and all I did was show that video. You know I said, I've been looking at the same time. This is why and the vast majority of people got it. I. Mean People are literally sat there watching math going. So. Yeah. It is a thing of beauty and I watched it. I watched it yesterday and it never ever. GETS BORING Really doesn't right and and then Rate the story is that the rider actually asked for this version to be played as femoral. least that is the rumor who really. Yes and it is. You know it's like the I'm going to get the name. Wrong. But like the the. The Guy who wrote hurt originally like Johnny turned long. Then, going back going. Okay I didn't know. Johnny Cash Song. So. I'm such a complete is that last year's record store day there was a there was a twelve inch version of the original by suicide. So I did have that as well and it's it's worth a listen to see what Bruce did with. Allen I suppose then we should jump forward to the Air Yes so I. I knew I had to dream baby dream. When I saw it was from the seventies though I did give serious thought to Bruce had done it during the this latest years especially when he was touring Australia, right? He's like Hey I'm going to start the show with a cover of a local and or someone just for fun and we got this grave version stay alive. after the passing Prince, we got this unbelievable version of paper rain. But It's Dallas Texas The NC double. A. Tournament was being held at what we affectionately called. Jerry world or the death star it's at and T. Stadium where the Dallas cowboys play this massive huge. You Know Stadium and down the road a little bit in a a park in downtown Dallas? They had a free festival. and the weather was horrible. Take got very little turn out The you know they had. It was a decent lineup, but bruce was headlining it. And and. So we had waited all day and week he come out. And the band is marching out to the sound of sweet Georgia Brown, which is the theme to the globetrotters. and. That makes us all smile. and. Then, and this is on video. Him meals because little steven is awesome filming. Setup for a jump ball. And Kevin his technician is in takes a basketball, throws it in the air and meals and a bruce do a jump ball and all of a sudden they go into van Halen's jump. And you just you're like, what? What? What? And I tweeted. Who had jump on your scorecard and someone else tweeted because this is the a. in the sweet sick. You know the bracket Bruce Destroying brackets everywhere. It is a great version of the song. It was my. Eighth show. I had already had tickets for three other shows. So are two other shows. So I knew going to this one would get me to double digits It is one of the smallest venues you know there was not a big crowd. It was little less than three hours, but if you do a Google, there is a the local Dallas beat writer. Talked about that you know entertainment writer talked about as intimate. It was he knew he was not playing to an audience. He was a general audience so it was very eccentric. He did dancing in the dark and glory. it's a very fund set, but it's a beautiful memory and I just think it's a great cover of the song. I agree. Let's let's take a listen. Yeah that's brilliant. That's You did a great great summary that. Jesse. The first of all if anyone hasn't seen that video. Go and watch it. It's just really. I think the only thing you in the Blade Jesse is it looks like it was so cold and Wet Oh, it was it. Miserable. It was it was so cold. I actually have a photo of me wearing my you know Fedora and I've got my you know my saying on. I it was rainy and wet, and so the whole band has got gloves and scarves and then, but you know he mentioned that the end of the whole show is available You can watch the whole show on Youtube because they streamed it lie I remember watching home onto. Yeah and he mentioned he says, this isn't bad weather for playing So yeah, it was It was really really good even in the video I mean, you've got things I. Want Max, you've got Max with a super slim coca. Brilliant job on the track. There's a there's a lovely moment. We spoke the whole horn section scrambling over charts but what does it? We're doing there's A. is an official video and there's another one. There's a bit where Bruce seems to rip. A cover of something I don't know if it's a speaker at the front of the stage, but he literally rips off and throws it away. As you got Bruce in those jumping, but the reason I actually. Made that clip let the second half of the song is. It just puts a big smile on my face. Can you imagine at the start of the two thousand? Ten's if you've said to rage against the machine fan what's going to happen this? Oh, you're going to see Tom Morello doing a scorching solo in a van Halen cover. By the way he two Solos and they are brilliant. And? One of the things I you know. I. I'm going to get the names wrong but In you may remember these but my buddy Charles and I were just doing a. We do a doctor who podcast and we're covering an episode and. He goes yeah. blank blank did the voice of Kanye's in on this episode and I don't like his version of Canine. I liked this guy's version and I said. Charles. You just made me smile and he goes why I said. You sound like a fan of the street band like, no no no I don't want neal's to Solo. Little Steven. Or. Hey Tom Morello has no business on being this any video we have neal's do and he says I'm glad I found you found it amusing One thing I always do love Tom Morello looks like he is having the time of his life -solutely. Anytime. You see this you see it's just like I can't blame him here. Absolutely. He does a looks looks just like you know when the fan gets pulled up in dancing in the dog. Try to again the story but I, I can't remember where the Gig Guo's but Neil's tells the story that there were seventy five minutes into a set an Tom came over and said finally when I know. I think it was one of the Australian where he just went completely off piste. I've seen him interviewed. He said you know I'm not a good stream along guy, that's not what I do. But the the final thing and when the reason I was so pleased you chose that as. One of one of the reasons, I, La Brea same his. I, don't think there's another performer who puts his much thought into. Working the audience and I mean that in a positive way, and you can just say in that video clip that he will come out and it's like. Okay, the weather's awful in there's not as many people. Here is Blah. Blah Blah and as you say this is not a bruce audience I am going to work my azoff an rights you know the fact that they put the thought into that but you can see East pudding every student in the evening, the first song. The irony is I have would you believe? I've never seen him in the rain. Oh. Wow. And I've actually gotten. Be careful what you wish for. Because I do have friends who will say that some of the favorite shows have been bad weather just because of that it's almost like the extra bit of effort and passionate but I've. Never had a raindrop while seeing Mr Springsteen. So far I'd love to get that record broken. So would that onto the one, thousand, nine, hundred and I know we had a lot of interesting discussion around this. Yeah. So this is where it gets tough because. As we've established bruce loves. Going back to his roots and so you can find chuck. Berry you know you could. You could find you know little. Richard. You can find dion you can find the beach boys you can find the Beatles you can go on and on even the seven eases I mentioned a few in the eighties. So then you get to the nineties and I'm like I'll do this one and you went just a hate to tell you this but that was actually released in eighty seven. Timid. 'cause I really wanted to get you to cover in the air, but I I had to job. So you sent me and there's this wonderful website that has lists of every cover that he's been known to do in a t stunned. John hiatt cover that there is no video of that I. Just he sound check that and I went home goodness got where where is that in the cosmos? So, So I ended up picking man in the moon by rem for a couple of reasons. One is a good song to I think Bruce does a great job of singing along with the mand. But they mess up in the middle. And that just makes me smile because. We all. No matter how passion how hard we work we screw up and it's just nice to see. Yep even professionals do and what are they do? They pick themselves up in go straight on forward. So man in the moon is made it and I believe you have a story. Do one of the good things about working for. Microsoft. I'm living in the UK as I did at the time was that if you flew to Seattle everywhere was on the way home. So I realized that Bruce was doing the vote for change. I genuinely was already booked to be in Seattle. So I decided, I would go on the way back. I also managed to persuade a lady who at that time was just a friend which was the ladies and my wife Laura Persuaded the we should meet in Chicago and then go to Cleveland and CDs. And she said, yes led the reality issue is more interested in seeing rem than Bruce at the time So yet we were at the GIG. And it was just a it was an amazing I mean the. The first support was actually bright is who we hadn't heard of the time and then fell in love with, and we actually had my Laura walked up and the Iowa. One of those songs. And then rem came out and they did about ten songs and then Bruce Join. And they did a brilliant version of. Bad Day. And he was clearly loving playing alongside Peter Book. And then they went into man in the moon and this is what's happened. So let's play the clip and then I'll I'll talk you through it. Sir. A. Inhuman. Never. Goes. So as you heard. Michael Stipe. I did say interviewed after it's very said I'm not used to doing it. But it was it was a brilliant moment and I've to people you know go and look at the gym book go and find out what is Cleveland two, thousand and four Tober second emblazoning memory. It was just one of those magic moments and the Bay I actually love and you could hear it then is the when he starts again and he says to the crowd help out because you could see an even loves what is really worried about is screwing up again. But it was just a a magic moment and if I may two quick stories. That are in obviously then went off stage if you watched the videos stipe in his all white suit. He comes aren't to introduce bruce in e street band. And? I. Forget exactly what he said he's walked off stage and Bruce we said something about supporting and Bruce Works at the vote and says. We disappointed you if you divest with a big smile and literally stops at the edge of the stage and he's stops and he walked back very slowly and he works at the and he goes no, you wouldn't. and. Then the final bit was that. Literally. When they play ball to run, you could see stipe come into the pit of visit the white suit help that you can spotted a literally just walked into the middle of the pet stood in the middle and just watched and it was a it was a lovely lovely lovely moment. So Thank you choosing that. When when it came through injury man I was like, yes. Yes. I'm so glad I did what a great story well. There well, the final bit than I just make you feel better is we'd been out the night before and we'd overindulged. and. So the GIG finish we go back to the hotel and it was like she had a night cabinet like then and it's an which is not unusual style and we got up the next morning to find out that the after policy. HAD BEEN HELD IN OUR HOTEL BALL Hung. By the way Brad. Pitt was in town and all these celebrities because it was all around vote for change and for once in a life, we decided to have ninety nine. Well. There you go. You. Know you can't that's hilarious. All right so With that, let's move into this century. The Nolte's. Yes. Oh. There are there are people, I. Recognize Our brilliant artists. But I've just I've not taken the time to explore their music as much as I should have, and if you'd asked me before Warren's of on-staff I would've said Oh. Yeah. The where we'll still London. Guy. And I had a coworker. Who really really liked Warrants von and he mentioned that. his last album he recorded knowing he was going to die. And I ended up picking up the CD. and. Fell in love with keeping in your heart. Is just one of my absolutely favorite songs I actually took after my. I have my stepfather's name was Kenneth, and when he passed I took all the photos. I could have him scan then in made a montage to keep me in your heart of his different photos and gave it to my mom. And But bursting do keep me my heart. But he did the next best thing he did my rights here. And I love this version. I, love the idea. That, my rights here In, the previous episode I talked about Sara Hickman's version of we are each other's angels. And where's the line I said ten thousand angels bring me. Home. and. So when I hear my ride's here, I think of that, I think of that were here together and so. I thought this would just be a perfect way to kind of bring in the noughties as you said, and the kind of share someone that I know Bruce One said that when Brian Wilson married the little surfer girl Wendy that they had twin sons and one of them was wearing savant was Jackson Browne I did not have that. That's brilliant. Yeah he said, yeah he says when Brian Married Wendy the little surfer girl they had twin sons born in a Jackson, and so I picked warns my rights here. Keys. They were out in the street. Even, Lord Byron. He was leaving for three. While back at the hill. Last but not lease. was, holding aside and. He said you hoes you better. Be Ready to fight. Eased fixes. The trail. Is. Long. And the river is wide. I was. The West. I was planning to withdraw. What in Walk Charlton Heston. With tablets little law. He said, it's still the greatest story I sit man I'd like to. Put them bound for glory. Your I'm on my way. Ear. Absolutely. Beautiful. Absolutely. Beautiful. Yeah I mean you look at that clip? And here is a Mannan Warren who manages to get Shelley Keats. Little Barn and Milton into one verse and then Rhymes West in with Charlton Heston. That you know it's not surprising because that's again I died to the clip from the same but the Song Eddie starts with I was staying at the Marriott with Jesus Jesus and John Wayne I was waiting for chariot they were waiting for a train. Massively underrated artist. My. Favorite album is life kill killer, which is a sad irony that a few years later. That's exactly what what happened. Also. In amongst all of that beauty. Beautiful thoughtful writing. There was a man with a really dark sense of humor because you mentioned about that fun album. Bruce pays on that on a brilliant song disorder in the House. But yet you recording an album you know that you know passing his on the horizon and doing include version of knocking on heaven's door. Yes a wicked sits. Is because obviously, there was a close relationship and you've just told that great story that is the only Warren seven cover the bruises ever done. Yeah, which is amazing. It is amazing. Absolutely. I was really surprised when I saw that but again. Too. So please you chose that because it got me to go back and listen to a couple of these albums and he really was he really was a great talent. Absolutely such such a loss and and like I said that that final album. would be a great album regardless. But when you know in the context, it just brings something pretty special and then the final thing 'cause it's all about May of course aids you mentioned well, wolves London. Again earlier in our relationship having seen, they msrb Lauren I then went for Chinese and realized we were in the Chinese restaurant in the world. London Song. I can't remember the name of but. I'll dig it. Out. It was some there was looking at the menu and thought hold on this rings a bell. So there you go. Let's move onto suddenly your final choice. Yes. So once again you know they're. Bruce's has done has saying with artists. some. Kind artist modern artists as I do air quotes but I think one of the best is it seems like the dropkick Murphys love him and he loves them and and. As, we're all trying to figure out how to do social distancing. You know the dropkick Murphys said, hey. Let's just do a live show from Fenway and Oh, by the way, let's have bruce join us so and so they did rose to. American land and I just think I sat to is such a fun song and. Not only because when he originally you know they did a version tell race charity. Now this to seeing him, do it live You know as we were watching the show Christner like how are they doing that? How is he being able to perform that far away in that remotely and make it work and it's just something special. Also, that was my that was my modern song on a USO dropkick Murphys found. Vaguely just casually. You know it's one of those. I tend to be so. Covered up into my own kind of music in in one of the things I admire about you so much as you continue to look out new bands and find new artists and an embrace that night tend to not do that as much though one of the beautiful things and I'm not just saying that is with music talks you hear all these different versions and you get to go down rabbit holes of I like that song? I. Should explore some more and so that's that's what I. Think you know the reason for asking is my son. Is a big Fan. And for me I would love to see them live. The. Not. Abandoned I think I'm going to listen to on record that much. But I would I would love to see them live and when you hear songs like this. You can. You can see why radio having let's take a listen. Here we go. Here we go. Without further. Ado. Rose. Tattoo. His the story this Ben. Many Shays to wake up every morning. From last night cigarette smolder. Down a little numb then then viola way. Travel Long. Hand and many four hours guided by compass. Tail. Off as little. Areso. Long. Some. Clue. Tattoo. Statue. New Hampshire. I had a similar thought about the technology side of the I have no idea they met at work. But Brilliant Initiative I think outside Brilliant Mr. Yeah, I don't know I thought the same thing not to get political just the music part of it the chicks formerly known as the Dixie chicks did the Star spangled banner. One of the final nights, the final, that Democratic convention, and so there's three of them. They all look like they're in separate places and doing absolutely amazing harmony and you're like how? Do you like, okay. We're all going to start. We all know our part. Let's you know how do you keep 'cause if you're sitting next to each other standing next to each other, you could kind of listen in here and I thought that was amazing and I'm right there with you I. Think a dropkick Murphys show would be a blast. Let's hope one they. Have slowly the reason for the intrude on the sound before was I was trying to find the name of that restaurant and it's Lee Hofu folks in. So okay. So Nice Go. Jesse that brings us to the end of your choices. Sadly, as always I can go on forever I'm going to do standard my standard music talks final question, which is any final thoughts. This was just fine I really appreciate it It was a nice excuse to go look at springsteen covers and and and I don't think he will I. I don't think he has any interest and doing a covers album though i. I could have a wishlist of you know. Bruce Johnny Cash Bruce to sings country classics. Cruise does do album you know I would do that. the two guys there is a there is a small podcast out there called springtime for springsteen. I've come across Blah yeah there. There are two guys in its. They're really fun. They talk about their life in their both casual springsteen fans but they have a really good friend who's a massive fan and very early one of their career. One of the episodes they said, the eastern band should do nothing but covers they should just they should come out and just forget all of Bruce's songs. They should just do a show of covers every night and I don't agree with that sentiment but I understand the thought behind it that you would have a hell of a show if they were the house band at the Marriott. And they were doing three hours of your favorite covers. It would be a something to write home about well. Because you've done your casual throwaway come into. So a future episode at some point of if Bruce wants to do a covers album, what would we choose be? The other one to show you just have retentive I am and I didn't I ran out of time on this task but I thought. Let's go back through all my gigs and see what he's done. I'm not I'M NOT GONNA. Tell you what was interesting is how it's changed over time. If I just in my very first GIG, he did who'll stop the rain he did this land is your land. Over the world. K.. The peak of covers which I didn't spot at the time was actually the tunnel of love to. So both times I saw him on that. He did seven cover versions. In both shows. and. That's by the way if you don't count because the night is division. So. You had boom boom wool I'm a coward which gene Washington sweet soul music have love will travel raise your hand did chimes of freedom. you then go to the other banter and the number of covers goes down not surprising. The rising. Very. Little. and. Then I ran out a time but I thought it was interesting because people always talk about the seventies when he did all the covers. The. Tunnel of quarter the set was. You. Know I wish I thought to do that? I would have done man I know. I. Was there any did rebel rebel? which was good. Yeah. The opening Teesta and I can't get no satisfaction burning. Love. I asked this question when I was at Kansas City he opened with Kansas City and I wanted to ask the question dues the audience going Oh. Gosh. Not again or they thrilled salute throat. Absolutely you're right. So So and And I told the story he was in Nashville and he did burning love and I can I can't get no satisfaction both kind of in in Lady, a young girl. It had a place at his faction song and my friend I worked with. He you know he looked at me and he said. That's cool but there's no way. If you had a daughter, she was going to have a sign at vershow asking for Rolling Stone Song. And I said that's probably true. Though. I tried this year Jolie Blonde is my favorite song because i. It was it's the fight song of my my college Mackney State University every time you score a touchdown they play the band plays Jolie Blah. Really and. So I love his version of that is one I would love to see live but that's that's an interesting thing. You had mentioned we inlets I think we have time. We can go through. Our current three favorite covers, right we can accept of course overnight. I've made it five. Okay. Nice I I call so. Apologize for. duwamish kickoff. Yes. Fleas. So might've five are Jackson cage and its version by someone called John Wesley Harding. And it slowed down its acoustic and it. When you ask the questions song is under appreciated. My answer was Jackson Cage because. I'd heard the Song God knows how many times when I heard the John Wesley harding cover version they it was one of those stop you in your tracks Mike Gaunt I'd never realized high lyrically brilliant that song is so. That was my number one. Interestingly because you have we talked about highway patrolman revolver. Highway Patrolman by Doll Williams is my favorite version. I know you love the Johnny Cash version. That's off a fantastic album if people haven't had called. Sorry, it's. A tribute to. Nebraska but I think they called it badlands tribute something but it's just a beautiful beautiful version. Number three is Atlantic city by the hold steady. Craig Finn's massive Fan and I think Bruce's a fan of Craig but it's just a brilliant version. I think if if the e street band had done. A band version in the early eighty s you know. Laura's coming with that Sachs's more clients. than. Clarence. Also. Then has at the end. The SORT OF NO SURRENDER LA laws put in as well. So I think it's brilliant arrangement. The before would-be Adam raised a came by Alabama shakes they played that at the music because tribute. Just print, and then finally actually prompted by the latest release in the archives series. Reminded me that Lucinda Williams does just the most beautiful version of factory. Take US top five absolutely I saw listen to Williams here in Dallas and what I found amazing is she has this huge songbook up top still bike. I'm not even going to pretend that I may not. Get on doing something differently, and he's she has a great voice. So you've already mentioned Johnny Cash Highway. Patrolman is definitely one of my favorites essentially the link to this one big head todd and the monsters do a version of Rosalita, come out tonight including they have the blue slayer from. From. John Popper. So he plays, that's absolutely amazing. This. Is a recent one that can rose in our mutual friend showed there is a mountain view church that doesn't an online ministry and Adam. Wait is the minister of music and he and I do not know who the violinist is I couldn't find but is is anyone looks do my city of Ruins Mallya at home Yeah he plays the piano. And she plays the violin and it's absolutely stunning I love McDonald's dancing in the dark. Yeah, she's just I love anytime. She does and then the last one, there's a story. So situated five. All right. I. Guess one of the things that Melissa Ethridge is done during this time. Is She's done a daily kind of show. And she talked about. Born to run. And her doing it on the. When she was doing there she was doing a special bright. Mt Live and they said food you want and so I'd love for spring. Singer. Let's ask him. And so there is a story and she tells the story that she's nervous that she and She said. When? She Goes I. Really WanNa say the line. Mary climb in because for a Lotta years, I couldn't sing songs with a female lead because of me being in the closet and it's really really important. I've seen this line embraces like fine. But every time. They practice she didn't say it. So, if you go to this video and you watch And you wait. You will see him look anxious. And then when she says, Mary, climb in, he smiles and kind of chuckles to himself. So everyone that's your homework. Go Watch that. The video is own Melissa Cycle Yeah just if you just Google but there is on her site in her facebook, she tells the story. But yes, if you go, this is the efficient you know like when she was on the. Thousands of views, but when you watch her and he He actually looks anxious and then he just smiles that she did. It meant just I love that story that he's like okay or you. Just do it on. Yes, absolutely. Fantastic. And I just want appreciate you to tell you how much again I appreciate your friendship and it's so much fun. podcasting with you. In case you guys don't know Terry and I are going to be doing a series of episodes where we talk about the archives as they're released. So depending on the release that'll be once a month in are Gonna get together and talk and I'm sure we will find another excuse to visit sometime. Because I, just love this with you. Similarly. Just it's it's always great fun and I also, I always lend something and I always come away with new stories and that's that's important to me. So thank you. Thank you listeners. Thank you. Wash your hands remember social distancing where of F. Mask, take care of yourself, and we'll talk to you soon. Kim.

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Remastered episod of 212 with Kevin Clement

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Remastered episod of 212 with Kevin Clement

"Hello and welcome to the final episode of Settlers Bruce For Music Talk Week. It has been a great <hes> joy to revisit. Is it the tea time with Terry episodes that I was able to do with Terry Smith <hes> for the last episode. We have our discussion with Kevin Climate. <hes> Kevin is from Louisiana Diana he had heard the episode heard the show and email this and said hey. You're always asking for guests. I'd like to do this so he was kind of our first guest west from the wild <hes> which thrilled Terry and I both <hes> and then Kevin ended up telling us some beautiful stories so <hes> we're excited to reshare this episode. I I hope if you I haven't heard it you will please listen to Kevin's <hes> very touching stories and if you have heard it is worth revisiting. I'll get back to you. After the episode <hes> for some closing thoughts thinks I can see myself to Golden Sunrise Young Bar open up your is supposed to be all day now all go arise and bound you won't stop and you own Candy Way and the wind will be tousled some rain the sweet display grave tales La van mistrial somewhere around your path Gloria you wear right Joe Story of Alah Hello everyone and welcome to a new episode. The settlers thing Bruce Your podcast all about Bruce Springsteen is music in mostly his fans. I'm your host Jesse Jackson but today we're not talking Bruce. Maybe but we are doing a tee time with Terry. Sorry episode that's right the fastest growing podcast in the southgate media network everyone soon to be favorite show with my good friend and Co host Terry Smith how you doing Terry <hes> after intro on bullet. I love being the fastest growing podcast. I'm just going to keep that good and today we have just said this before for hit record. This is our first TI- time with Terry in the wild guest <hes> at the end of every episode <hes> I always ask for people to reach out to us if they want to tell their story or to share and Kevin actually emailed and said I think I'd like to do teatime with Terry so Kevin Welcome to the show. Thank you very much for having me so yeah. Tell us a little about yourself say <hes> originally born in a little town called typically Louisiana and <hes> but we moved to Baton Rouge Louisiana when I was about three years old so I grew up in Baton Rouge Louisiana together and <hes> lived in south Louisiana my entire life so I am originally my grandparents owned a dairy farm in Rose Pine Louisiana I was born in. I was uh-huh yeah and I <hes> spent a lot of my time till I moved to Dallas in Lake Charles Louisiana so I'm very familiar with that route antipasto and yeah good job <hes> so what about <hes>. Why did you think this will be fun to do <hes> just listening to the original <hes> temperatures that Gel together and <hes> just thought that it would be really fun to kind of Chime in songs and and <hes> comments and all that but that sounds perfect? That's exactly what the hope was on well Kevin before we get started <hes> they're you. I always have to assume that this may be someone's first podcast so terry. If you don't mind tell us the premise behind teatime with terry show <hes> so this candidate and probably eighteen months ago when I would search fortunate enough to stop work so I retired at a bit mortem and music's was being a passionate Hi-fi so I quit as always been passionate on over the years entrench who've been around drinks. What a game dinner an we'd sneak off in ten minutes of music on a number of wouldn't it be great to just get an evening where we can really listen to stuff his hi fi? It's best to number so I that's what I started doing <hes> every typically there on cheese every couple of weeks. I just have a friend Iran. <hes> we'd missing some Music Cook some food we'd have a few drinks <hes> and that was great but after about three or four I realized that what was happening in these evenings with I was basically playing forty. Five to sixty seconds of a truck I love shushing is playing it very large doesn't that sound great and then playing something else signed up so I I realized that probably needed to the full Matt allowed my guests list the some of the music and I came up with this thing of just choose your favorite song from each decade. Actually it was a familiar originated from the sixties. One of Jesse's added value is of to say a song from every decade in your life which I think each read Chris <hes> on then people would send it up play this we tend up. I'd have that ready for them on it meant that they go to listen to some of them on in my head one of my guidance to people was this doesn't have to be favor album. It doesn't have to be favorite artist it just just it should be something that says to you. This is the listens nolte's one of the things that's been fascinating about this then becoming a podcast days how people sort of play with that full Matt and add value need to change it Jesse was I want to do that so while I'm genuinely excited <hes> Kevin as justice is your office to the real non-arranged guest to see how you've approached it. I'm I'm particularly what you chose. One the things I love about during the podcast as I don't actually know what people songs are were is when I used to do the the face to face thing. I had the play list so <hes> that's the premise on radio excited w gas I agree <hes> it is <hes> <hes> when I explain this to people I always they. They ask the questions like well. What kind of songs and I go? That's the beauty of this <hes>. The only guideline is if you were born born in sixty eight you would get a sixty seventies eighties nineties audits in two thousand ten's. That's it pick whatever you want and so that is gives you a lot of freedom which can be daunting or kind of exciting so Kevin <hes>. Do you have some just before we get to your first song. Do you have some. How do you have some general guidelines of how you decided to <hes>? Pick your songs. <hes> what I kind of went by was I went by what you all did. I did a little bit from what you did just from my life and nature from that and then also say the songs on that I really liked so I kinda did kind of a combination okay all right. So what year were you born and what's it's our first decade. I was born in Nineteen seventy-three. <hes> nineteen nineteen seventies look at first decade okay and okay well the build up to it. I look I I grew up in a house that was <hes> we listen to a lot of country music and pop and that sort of things like <hes> <hes> Elvis Presley Marty Robbins Patsy Kline <hes> that was you know pretty much regular in my house that type of music <hes> one many interrupt you there just to share that sounds like you and I were similar. I can remember the album cover or Marty Robbins <hes> with him dressed up like a gunfighter. You know and bad yes so I it sounds like we had a lot of similarities. Okay so yeah so okay to get into song. This was one <hes> and put it into the Times <hes> doesn't. The phone we had on an eight track <hes> it was a various artists Al album and it had all kinds of different stuff on it it had everything from <hes> convoy to <hes> smoking in the Boys Room Brown and I don't even know what the premise was for putting <hes> or this album together but it was very <hes> varied but the ones that did choose from it and this was kind of the phone everybody in the family loved and I remember very distinctly that we had this eight track on and the song was playing and me and my brother and my sister were jumping up and down on the bed and then having a great old time so <hes> the song I chose was <hes> bad badly Roy Brown but Jim Karachi in Chicago bad does all through town and if you go down there you better be man able to Brown trouble is Dan about six <music> downtown the top all the mantos him as bad B. Braun better fan in downtown badder than old <music> game. I love that song. I Love Jim Crow so she and I can just see that. 'cause what a great sing along song. What a great to see you and your siblings just being crazy in your pajamas laughing and joking about that that is awesome 'cause all Howard whenever that song came on it was just one that we just you know everybody in the family loved it and where would we love? Jim Crow cheap but especially that for some reason that was kind of a song adopted offered. I guess you know this this so much in that cabin is <hes> first of all. Let me say I mean this affectionately genuinely when I hit the words Baton Rouge Louisiana I still get excited because growing up in England that just sounded like this faraway place you could imagine <hes> on on on. I'm also thinking you know I said I was a hi Fi birth. I mean I have seventy eight of certifies. The I've still got a the first series cassette machine I bow up the mud off the only full matt I never had resigned truck and I nagged feel desperately nostalgic about although I might even be said enough to just buy some said that I could say I've got some there we we had all the seventy we have agree soundtrack. We had <hes> the statler brothers we had <hes> fleetwood MAC ringers. It was Kinda. You Know Grove right there. The thing it sparked me was you said <unk> this compilation so by the way in convoys the C._b.. Radio something's yesterday <hes> but it's funny because again I think this is a U._k.. Thing but the Bane <unk> years a series that we used to sell like ten million finding copies than it was cold now. That's what I call music. I'm basically it was it was the hit songs of the last month right. <hes> on recently got into the call and there was a C._d.. We'd have many C._D.'s and it was now. That's what I call music. One hundred and my wife had bolted she'd be shopping it was like and she has a bull music. I boil them. She hasn't boating music for years but it was like I have to buy that one <hes> and you think back I mean some of those compilations were just Britain. <hes> you know and that's that's how I got into music. I think four of the first six albums I bought were like <hes> there was an island completion elation cooled alpay with a picture of pay on the front of it <hes> you know but that was that was how you got into music at the time so brilliant choice in Jim Crunchy just right. Oh absolutely and it's such a fun song <hes> i. I love the idea you know in the seventies. It was such a diverse amount of music on the radio by the way I still have any gets pulled out. That's what you call Music Christmas collection one of the first ones they add such a diverse on selection so absolutely that was the beauty obeys that he was incredibly diverse. You get absolutely end by the way I still have somewhere. I don't have all the tracks I owned. <hes> Elton John's greatest hits was the first eight track I bought with my own money but I do have beach boys endless summer eight track which was the first speech boy <hes> thing I bought fell in love with them because of that and I have it in a box somewhere as like nope can't throw this one away way to play it but I could keep it. You're off to a great start Kevin. Let's let's move to the eighties. What are you got one evening? <hes> that's when I started listening mostly to my parents music when I was younger and then my sister who seven years older than me started getting getting into the album oriented rock and all the corporate rock like foreign their journey and Oregon speedwagon that sort of thing so I started listening to that with her and all and in the eighty s is when I started to get my musical taste and started kind of branching off and one of the big ones ahead think I was in middle school nineteen eighty six nineteen eighty seven somewhere in that M._t._v. came up with <hes>. I show that unions called one hundred twenty minutes. I don't know if you're familiar with that but that they had that they had a lot of alternative music <hes> what things could live in Baton Rouge Louisiana. This is the type of music that you didn't get the year. There's you on the radio. You didn't hear from friends or anything it was this was like all all brand new stuff to me and this was like you to secure <hes> suzy in the banshee all kinds of different bands if US Amir chain. I'm just thinking of something that they were all in business all all brand new to being in it was just an and that's something that I could really call and I really enjoyed this type of music and <hes> even like Depeche Mode and joy division. There's in some of the more you know more of that type of music. <hes> I think everyone so falls being British. Keep going. I really fell in love with the British music. I'm going <hes> but <hes> actually the song had she was actually is not a British Pam. It was it was one of the first videos but I remember seeing on one hundred twenty minutes and it is one of the bands that I really. I really have a hard time saying the band or an artist is one of my favorites <hes> if no the character dory from <hes> finding the middle and finding dory movies I'm Dorey when it comes to music. I'm like Oh. This is a great artist on the OH expecting. Here's a check that that is one of the best descriptions as heard cassette so perfect. Yes <hes> there's there's so many artists that I enjoy that I would hate to say over. This one's my favorite. I'm like I'm a these are a bunch that I really really enjoy but you know if somebody like more than others but you know to go and say this is my favorite band of all time. I just can't do it and I just I have a bad thing and I worked at a record store <hes> for about eight or nine years I think and that really fit into it. Oh How divine albums everywhere you know it was just crazy so birther before you give us our song. I just have to comment. This is a theme that I see often inset lessening bruce. When 'cause you know I usually start about background in siblings play a big art eater? Are you are the older one and you're an influence to your younger siblings or you are a younger sibling and you either or influenced either positive or negative like Oh. I don't want to be like my older brother. I find my own music more influence it and so I I am I I- smile that you're talking about this and I also love this story the idea that you do find your own music it's it's. It's a very safe way to rebel from your family and I at least I personally as I got older. I moved back to loving the music that my parents listen to one because I realized that it was good. Music intuit helped me remember them but yes I I love that part of rebellion in growing up is finding your own voice in your own music so beautiful story. I I appreciate that so much I had exactly the same reaction Jessica's <hes> my I had two older brothers and they was seven eight years older than me so when you said Kevin <unk> sister seventy is old older and that phrase of finding your amusing I remember remember I mean it's it's interesting. I think you said nineteen eighty seven so you'd be like fourteen on. I think that's that that's exactly the same age when when I started by me I also lived your phrase of corporate rock for R._E._O.. speedwagon condemn those guys before it's perfect really is yeah and I really still enjoy some of that music. I haven't totally gone away from it. I'm still enjoy it from unbound time but it's not you know not not on the forefront of what I usually listen to music right nowadays absolutely go on. Tell us what you've just because after you to the Kiss Suzy Jesus Return the depeche mode on Fascinate uh-huh so there's long is actually <hes> from R._e._M.. Band from Athens Georgia Oh and and the song is <hes> fall on on me from from <hes> lifer rich pageant album of nineteen eighty six brown Sky Sky Sky Sky Yeah in the first one of the first video that I remember watching and <hes> when I heard that Song I was like Oh my God he was saying I need to check them out now and wound up going by your their albums and and <hes> just really enjoyed it you know it same thing with the cure and the Smith and so I and I don't remember him but the but it's fascinating it's fascinating to me that it was it was M._t._v. video that got you into it because you being older. I was suddenly say what in eighty six twenty nine so I was definitely view all <hes> M._t._v. with for the kids will submit and you're putting some of these podcasts. I do pumps radi. Well <hes> and you know if you if you if you look at how much great music came out about period and the importance of video but yeah I didn't I didn't discover R._E._M.. Until Oh out of time and ninety and then and you've mentioned it and it's come up on the PODCASTS <hes> trying to think Steve rivage <unk> to Jesse when this that thing that you discovered an artist and then it's like them by everything they've ever done. You know you just you just bidden joint and the great thing today of course as you can do that by streaming rather than actually having to go out and buy a C._d.. Or album but <hes> I think I missed Benji Gay. It's okay to leave them often. Go with our APP because I do. I do one of the greatest bands ever and as always gotta be springsteen link and I was looking for being Cleveland on the vote the changed her when R._e._M.. Support R._E._M.. Supported Bruce <hes> two very quick stories wall Bruce Introduced R._E._M.. To the stage and they and they came up and Michael Stipe made a comment about supporting I'm Bruce's woken often. He came back and they said I'd support you and by the study looked at it but he said no you wouldn't they did a version of Man on the moon which you can get on down the <unk> thing they did. They did it as a duet. Michael Stipe got lyrics on just one of those magic moments moments where cool season is never sung as a duet he literally just studying for twenty thousand people in did they elevate a chance on yes I. I had heard that it's great choice. I I laughed because I felt somewhere in the seventies <hes> the midnight specials that would be area N._B._C.. You know like it's starting at midnight a remember those yeah Friday night videos if you didn't have T._V.. You know the different things so yeah of wonderful wonderful choice all right so we're moving onto the nineties. Okay the nineties where it starts getting a little so <hes> nine hundred ninety one was the year that I graduated from high school <hes> but it was also the year that I was diagnosed with cancer and I was diagnosed with testicular regular teamster which is not something that a lot of people talk about now that it's something if you have any <hes> listeners who are male between the ages of eighteen and thirty five make sure you check yourself out. Yes there's Eh but this was nineteen. Ninety one <hes> cancer treatment is how it is today it was <hes> <hes> we did at chemotherapy was went into the hospital and and stayed <hes> normally for anywhere from six to eight days and they just blasted been around at the round of Chemo and I would sit there is that there for a week did the three times and <hes> between August and August in October of thanking anyone music is where really <hes> got my sauce <hes> but the headphones on and I just listened to all the panel music my friends with giving me they would have to walkmans on cassette and <hes> my friends would would put all Kinda albums on <hes> you know burn them onto cassettes and then <hes> <hes> record about it and then give them the mean and listen to all different music and that was really something that really helped me get through it. You know it was a very difficult time. <hes> also in <hes> in off I had two surgeries and <hes> this is where the phone comes in. I remember being in I._C._U.. After the surgery was we go back to M._T._v. m._T._v. t._v.. On the telephone television at that time overnight between midnight and six or seven o'clock in the morning they played this thing video over and over and over like rely on it was like the fainted in video every hour and the one song that I remember to this day and the video as well is <hes> mysterious ways you uh-huh live. Sir That's all employees like I heard it like every hour and I'm sure the the nurses the pasta over not very happy with me we continue over again but <hes> but it was something that that just ah brought me solace it helped to kind of calm me down and kind of go somewhere else you know not think about what's going on in real life is Kinda go into the music and just enjoy it and <hes> <hes> here in that phone over and over again it just kind of got burned into my memory and it's still one of my favorite day so <hes> as well you know one of my favorite bands you tune well. Uh first off thank you and I I it it appears. You're okay now right yeah. <hes> December second will be twenty seven years. I've been in remission. Wow that's well as you probably know. If you've listened to show I had colon cancer and life has changed a lot from when you had it to an I had it. I drove myself to chemotherapy. My wife life offered each time but after the first time you know I just went by myself did exactly what you did except this time. It's you know my phone with headsets on playing music while they pump trump poison into your bloodstream and then you know I was able to walk drive myself home and actually worked went back to work so it is I get by Friday. I was pretty pretty crappy and Mike Yeah he I would always get <hes> win. See's would be chemo and then by Friday at noon you just I'm out and and <hes> and say you're you're feeling it <hes> and I just love the story that music is such a healing force and in a it is a it is a time machine that can or or you know a it takes you away and I I will never hear that Youtube Song again without thinking of you Kevin in your strength so so this is a beautiful story and a beautiful selection. Thank you so much up so then <hes> it's it's interesting you saying obviously about testicular <unk>. You obviously know because it happened but it's it's only relatively recently the I discovered that it's a <unk> actively young man's disease <hes> which I I I didn't know and it said <hes> I I had a minus. Go Chinese ago actually his nothing but that was when the doctor said I. It's one of those sort of back onto companies is actually at your age. You're probably okay uh-huh. I Say I'm not young enough to get this disease <hes> but in all seriousness it's it's I think it's something that still needs a lot of a lot of education around it. I'm going back back to the music and the answer to this question might just be though but obviously not so I can only imagine how it were trying time but you listen to a loving. What was it about that one? Can you put your finger on mobile. It was about the woman song that resonated so much that if you will almost that he's saying when I look at that period this is this is the song I would choose booming <hes> beaming immersive coming in all the time to check on and you know just trying to you know a lot of pain and there was just something about <hes> I guess it just the beginning of that song just the way it starts with guitar riff very different than anything that you've ever heard and every time it came on. I'm just dreaming. I guess that's what it is the best song hoping to draw me in and out of that situation more than any of the other songs. That's a great description is a great year okay perfect so the guitar that was just different than you had ever heard before you know yeah it's light light to music. Thing is kids you know Bono is one of those people I vacillate on from living in the great to the Dean's the complete pain in the book <hes> I can't remember the song he basically says has the same in one of my favorite interviews was really tiny simply depends which bano turns up but you know whatever you think of him. <hes> I think via the three members of view to are still massively under rated because if you decide to them as a live band a male they are stunning musicians and you know what the edge the edge is done as a guitarist and yet you can argue. It's foot pedals that everything but get the this stuff this stuff he plays on with you. It takes you to a different place. Yeah we can absolutely I always <hes> every year at the Super Bowl. You know they start. We're talking about you know greatness halftime shows and of course on my circle of friends being you know because of the show everyone picks Bruce springsteen which was fabulous but are always always go back to. I don't know you too might have something to say about that right. After nine eleven the beauty of that show <hes> prints in the rain Principi by choice yeah <hes> so absolutely excellent choice <hes> in in such once again. This is the beauty of this format. Is it gives you a chance to be very personal. If you choose to so thank you Kevin all right. We got the arts. This is where I kinda go off the personal and kind of get more into my musical choices then <hes> off and the fans the last eighteen years in more in listen to a lot of different the music but <hes> most of the music. I've been drawn to what they now call Americana Music kind of country rock and earn be all mixed in swirled together and <hes> really enjoyed you know a lot of that music has started getting into in the nineties when I was working at the record stores started using <hes> bought a different stuff and Kevin tenure up shoe but it kind of is a combination of you know your parents music and yours combining I agree I love the Americana Jason Isbell and just so many other people so yes absolutely yeah and gone into that is actually the one that shows the author <hes> Days Dixon is bill in the four hundred and the song cigarettes and wine <hes> self titled Album of Two Thousand Nine they saw spreading does and she never did she say but I figured I some come sister the shale that's A.. She put me honey <music> Dagan Ma tre if it's just a great series of. Yeah it is this is I love adversity yeah so I I am. I'm of the view Kevin that Jason is bells. The best righted that's got <hes> seen him. Actually live I before a purchase with album and <hes> and this song is really captivated me. It's a really beautiful song kind of sad but <hes> is one of my favorite songs from him and just really enjoy it well I I am. I didn't have many we we enjoyed our time. Instead Seventies Athle- moped on a <unk> would delighted to be back in Scotland. I'm we have very few regrets but probably my biggest is that we moved back at the end of July and I had tickets on September seventh to see Jason's bell in Seattle supported by somebody else on the to- practice <hes> that is the second time I've had tickets to see Jason his bill not being able to go so I've never seen him live but <hes> so I wonder if you saw him that early <hes> but <hes> to I'm ready quite jealous but a great right choice correct choices yeah go ahead sir. I'm always enjoyed drive by truckers. I did like them but they were never really. Fully you know one that I really really got into it Wednesday. It is about one seventy started doing this. Is it really just something about his knees. Just really captivated me just caught me and my this is yeah I yeah he found his own voice Lisa. My one of my best friends was a huge drive by trucker fan and then has since continued to be a fan of Jason and <hes> his latest one <hes> Sam was talking about how wonderful it was in fact offered me that the Nashville one he like look if you will by I if you don't like it I will give you your money back and I'm like no no no. I mean if you you tell me said good. I'M GONNA listen to it and it has been fabulous fabulous. It was such a great selection and I think this is a brilliant choice so well done. It's interesting Jessica's about the drive by truckers and your friend missile didn't CDs. I worked with a lovely lovely man who I does actually listen to some of these gyco Brian Painting on about ten years ago he just he came to my desk at work. Doc on incident got second and he gave me the guitar by truckers album he said I've never done this to you. But you have to listen to this you will love it wonderful and he was right and given were sort of trading personal stories. If you go and listen to they did an album tea is go cold English oceans <hes> on the final track of that attract will Grand Canyon which is actually about a friend of those passed away on that Kmart said Tom. I lost my brother and when I listened to Grand Canyon that's my brother. <hes> governed going listened to the track he'll and by the way it's on a big fan of sad songs that leave you positive positive that's one of the and when they do it line about four minutes but it's a great track but <hes> I can only imagine what it must be light seeing the drive by truckers win. Jason is but we did you know he was about twenty ebony left for God's sake. I mean yeah he's just so talented. You had some issues zoning to take your of unfortunately but unfortunately I did not get to see him what the drive by truckers but <hes> big to see Liam so when <hes> very early in his solo career so nice all right well ban. I am now cannot wait to hear your last choice absolute yeah and this one is kind China along the same lines as van called the Blitzen trapper. I believe from Oregon or somewhere in that area. I can't remember but but <hes> they have some really good music that I enjoy very good storytelling type songs very beautiful music song. I chose Cadillac road. It's from the album all across this land handles. <hes> two thousand fifteen down now to see heaven has to win dirt mid town goes better spent as more gum spent lagging Noga now back in malegaon making who start can't change range with the towns don't have Evan when the Shit State Dreams Yeah. It's just one song that constantly go back to. It's just a real kind of haunting tennis on Rue Grit. It's kind of not really upbeat. It's Kinda mid tempo but it's it's a really nice so <hes>. What was it again Kevin? The song is called Cadillac Road Cadillac Yeah. I'm not familiar with this one but I go now. I what I will be checking on later today. <hes> I just googled it so I'm doing exactly blitzen trapper is it's one of those bands because it's cinching you say buy American in the U K. There's a magazine store Guy Golden Cut <hes> but the the editor of Guy told Alan Jones who suddenly passed away but six months ago <hes> but he was probably responsible for Americana and not magazine taking open the U._k.. So when <hes> and Ryan Adams vessel heartbreaking out here and all of that said Blitzen trapper is one of those names that I recognized but I genuinely never listened so on the basis of your previous suggestions like Jesse L. be finished in having listen yeah I would I would I would definitely go back and listen to for that's one of their third or fourth album. That's one. Where are they really? I think they started to find I own it was really good and this album all across this land chose that one to really very album perfect album just two very long and <hes> when you're on the long the trip a road trip routes repel them and grew trick music you ride they'll from from Poland. So given the seventies I read. I really should've listened to a- absolutely oh God I can't wait. You're that <hes> what can I gotTA. Tell you firm our first person that Kinda volunteered. You've set a high bar. This was great a series of hey quite emotional genuinely <hes> when Jesse was good look doing courage to start doing this. This is exactly what I taking pole the <unk> respect to the other ones you've done but you know the the we've never met you made that connection fantastic music chosen some stuff at the end and thank you Sharon some very they're very much. No no no that was great. <hes> so <hes> any final thoughts you want to share Kevin before we start around one thing one thing I did want to go back to you know. This is a Bruce Springsteen podcast <hes> I was introduced a Bruce Springsteen by my sister she <hes> got born in the U._S._A.. On Cassette this <hes> and <hes> I kind of wore that one now and that she actually bought the <hes> seventy five eighty five live help them and I try and listen as to a ten year old I I don't really get into it sure <hes> and <hes> and I and then I kinda got into the mother music so I kind of forgot about very but <hes> but <hes>. Recently the last few years I've been getting back into Bruce and one of the ones that got me in there was <hes> another pet podcast. You know <hes> <hes> a deadline in EH foster <hes> they on their first podcast the one that have now did an anniversary of the double album from Bruce the river was it the double album disease while the river that and and I went back and I purchased that album and since then I've gone back kind of God and <hes> Nebraska both <hes> born albums <hes> a pretty much stayed in the seventies and eight- traveled further than that yet but <HES> <hes> <hes> go back and borrow my sisters album seventy five eighty five live album I'm fine <hes> and I've been listening to those now you know as I mean forties and really getting into but you know I I understand that more. When I was younger I didn't quite understand what was going on but as an older man I I understand more of what's going on and really appreciate what Bruce in his brilliance because you're really awesome with his lyrics and music and everything he's really uh in in in return for the Blitzen trapper recommendation? If you depress you live Nebraska and I'm not surprised given the other stuff there is a much overlooked covers version of that cold. It's Cold Badlands a tribute to Bruce springsteen's Nebraska and it does it does the whole album <hes> you then actually got damn band train and wages the senate the end <hes> Johnny cash doing. I'm among fire there. Is I think the best version of highway patrolman by some dog Williamsburg eight very gutless logos on doing Johnny Ninety nine <hes>. It's very Americana but I I think you'll love it and it's also I tend to give it to friends who either don't like Bruce or don't like Nebraska and then it's like hey just listened to the quality of those songs <hes> so have a listen to baton. Let me know what he faked but I think you'll love it absolutely in case. I don't know if you've heard deadman's town attribute to Bruce springsteen's born in the U._S._A.. <hes> but <hes> it it is worth <hes> <hes> Jason is bull and Amanda Shires does born in the U._S._A.. They have quaker city nighthawks working on the highway by Blitzen trapper over no surrender the arm not embarrassed to admit this. I had never heard of that. What's it going okay? It is called a <hes> it is deadman's town attributed to springsteen's born in the U._S._A.. <hes> the premise this was they said that because <hes> board in U._S._A. was such a album of the eighties <hes> they reached out to <hes> artists like Justin townes Earle Holly Williams and <hes> other people and they did the album all with kind of more of an Americana just stripped down version and <hes> it is a brilliant excellent C._d.. <hes> because all these artists kind of took it their own <hes> and kind of you know dancing in the dark is such a pop song but when you strip it down it actually is there's a lot of things in there that they're talking about so both of you guys should check that out <hes> it's all I know what I'm doing for the rest of the afternoon the fan that's great yeah yeah absolutely <hes> well. Thank you <hes> Kevin this perfect <hes> any final thoughts you wanNA share Terry before I do are closing Business Kevin unfit give me this is very rid me but remind me where you live in the the U._S.. <hes> Baton Rouge Louisiana in Baton Rouge so <hes> the the reason that I is the only other regret have a backup about Seattle as the we'd never my wife and I never got to do do the Nashville Memphis new. We've been to New Orleans but we've never done this at of southern to us so just be warned that we will be doing that and I may be popping into C B lively. You're more Gordon welcome it. I can definitely help you out with a tour of South Louisiana that would be no problem and there is an absolute delight Sir Kevin <hes>. I am making a pot of Gumbo because it's cold here in Dallas and we're going to have ah for the cowboy game so that's exciting <hes> well. If you want to join us and share your musical journey with a song from each decade. Let us know you can reach out at settling Bruce G MAIL DOT DOT COM. You can tweet me at Jesse Jackson D._F._W.. <hes> you can find us on our facebook page set listening Bruce <hes> if you don't WanNa do your songs but you just WanNa share your springsteen story we'd love to hear from you. Kevin are you on any social media <hes> Yes yes. I'm on facebook twitter and facebook and twitter printing lecture twitter handle actually Cajun Music man be a Cajun music man all his good and and Terry on twitter at Terry scrabble and you can email me on Terry at some I- hotmail dot com perfect. Thank you Kevin for sharing <hes> <hes> what we may do is <hes> after you check out a couple of these other albums may have to have you join me on just a regular settling Bruce episode and we can <hes> Kinda talk about your springsteen journey how you rediscovered him. That would be a lot of other and Kerry as always your this your premise continues to <hes> inspire me and make me <hes> entertained and I'm so happy we're doing this. Thank you thank you thank you can yeah so listeners very much. We'll talk to you soon and there you go. The final episode of music talks for settling Bruce No. I don't like that sounded. Let's try again and there you go. This is the final music talks <hes>. This is the final episode for Music Music Talks Week here on set lists Bruce but the fun continues on Terry. Smith's music talks podcast. You should go subscribe to that. You could find it anywhere where you get your podcast. Do a search for music. Isaac talks with Terry Smith. You can reach out to him at music talks pot at outlook dot com on twitter. He is at music talks pod. His website is music talks pod loyd DOT BUZZ SPROUT DOT COM <hes> he would love to hear from you <hes> he is always looking for guest as I am so join him. Tell your story of a life <hes> as far as me I continue continue to be <hes> I will continue to do set lesson Bruce. We have a lot more episodes on the way including next week the Dutch Courtney Cox so I'll leave that tees there if you want to reach me. I'm at Jesse Jackson D._F._W.. You the show is at set. Listen Bruce on twitter you can email me set lessening brexit gmail.com you can call me at our brand new voicemail four six nine two four nine two four two please go to our patriots on page. <hes> go to Patriot and search for settling bruce you will see <hes> their several tiers and with different goals and <hes> rewards for signing up and I hope you take a chance. Look at it and see if something that interests you for now thank you so much for <hes> supporting the pont gas thank you for supporting Terry's new podcast and for now keep hope alive you just heard the fun talking hard Rockin Music Levin Album Raking Fan thanking joy spreading lira greetings story sharing podcast. 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NaPodPoMo 18 Patrons

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

02:36 min | 10 months ago

NaPodPoMo 18 Patrons

"A few months ago I decided to jump into the Patriots on page patron is a website that allows you to support creative endeavors and set lesson. Bruce has a patron page. If you go to patron Citron P. A. T. R. E. O. N. DOT COM slash. Settling Bruce. You will see that There are various stages you can donate as little as pledge a little bit of a dollar month up to fifty dollars a month. which is crazy? It is a chance for you if if you want to to help support the PODCAST In a small financial way and I am so honored and please that The I have some consistent People helping me I I WANNA give a shout out to Steve Rogers Terry Smith Dale Hosic. Mary Thomas Anna Lindh all patrons that I I just appreciate them so much for their support. it means the world to me not only for the few bucks but the idea that they think that this podcast is valuable enough that they they want to help me. So thank you very much to my current patrons and this is a shoutout to anyone who wants to Join the club Reach out to me. Go to the page If you don't want to spend money and I certainly can understand that another way. You can help. The podcast is by going to your plate. Your favorite podcast player being itunes stitcher. Whatever ever leave a review rate or review the podcast that helps a lot? You can also continue to forward the podcast via your social media or know someone who loves music. Who Loves Bruce Springsteen send them a link to the pot guests and tell them hey check it out and let them see what they think for now this is Jesse Jackson thanking everyone for all their support for the podcast? This is my gratitude post for the day. Love you all.

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August Patron Shout outs

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

07:38 min | 1 year ago

August Patron Shout outs

"<music> <music> hello and welcome to a new episode of settlers bruce your podcast all about bruce springsteen. His music and mostly is fans. I am your host jesse jackson and welcome to august it is the year is just coming along. Isn't it <hes> if you're like us in dallas. It's starting to get very very warm but <hes> fall is on the way and that means by november. It will be cool here. In dallas <hes> this is as the episode planning to do every month where i give a special shout out to the people that have signed up to support the podcast via our patron page and <hes>. I just can't tell you how much i appreciate each of them. <hes> stepping up in helping <hes> it is wonderful to have someone wanting to back the podcast. I know there are hundreds of listeners out there and not all of you are in the position where you can financially support us. That's okay we love you you but if you could forward this podcast the someone or tweet the link or share on social media the link tour patron page i would appreciate it and please give us feedback on the show what you'd like to see what you would like us to talk about. I have six patrons. They are they'll hosic. Terry smith anna lynne chris bloom. I'm mary thomas and stephen melillo. I know i'm butchering your last name. Even i'm sorry they signed up and are supporting me on the podcast and it is greatly appreciated. <hes> you guys were the first jump on this. This is the first month that i've had the patron page open and i just appreciate you five sharing a little bit of your money and mostly your good thoughts and support and helping the podcast. Thank you your rewards awards. If you have one coming are on the way if you want to support the podcast or want to hear about this rewards thing you can go to w._w._w. Dot patriots on p. a. t. r. e. n. Dot com search perset lusting bruce and you will see us <hes>. We have some fun rewards for different tiers. You can start with supporting the podcasts as little as a a dollar a month and that does get you a shout out on the podcast and a handwritten. Thank you note for me. At this point. You're going hey jesse. Why have i listened or why. Have i downloaded an episode. That's basically just a commercial asking me to go to your patriots page. Good point <hes>. I did promise in the description that i wanted to give some previews. What's coming up in august. We have you've the return of kevin long from the kevin long show he as casual bruce springsteen fan shares his thoughts about bruce bruce on broadway. He saw it in net on net flicks <hes> caroline madden who has an upcoming book. I'm excited to read about out. She is someone i'd been wanting to get on the podcast awhile her new book will be springsteen as a soundtrack the sound of boston film we talk about that and hear her springsteen journey catherine joins me again from <hes> <hes> my one of my canadian friends we catch up and then we're going to end the month with a couple episodes from a new fan in the united kingdom dan cooper. We talk a little sports. We talk springsteen fan. We talk a little parenting so that's what's coming up for the one <hes> hope you enjoyed the episodes. I don't want to take too long on this. Thank you everyone for the continuing support. I would love to get more feedback please. He's send me an email at settling bruce humil- dot com. We have a voicemail four six nine two four nine two four four two don't forget we are still trying to gather seventy voices telling bruce springsteen happy seventieth birthday. You can leave that add on that voice mail. I can download it added to the list <hes> same thing. If you want to record this using your phone or any other device an email it to me you can use the same email address settling bruce g mail welcome. We have a facebook page and we have a brand new website w._w._w. W._w._w. Dot set listening bruce dot com. Check it out. I'm trying to get better at that. <hes> posting one of the things i plan to do is start doing throwback thursdays where i will highlight an episode that had happened in the past in case. You're someone new to the podcast not had a chance to go back and listen to everything. Everything was gonna highlight a catalog <hes> for now thank you again. I appreciate all the support an love july. Two thousand nineteen was the best download month. I've had so that was very gratifying. I'm i'm hoping that we can continue the podcast growing and i will talk to y'all soon and hopefully we'll meet up at a show next next year where we can talk in person for now. Take care and keep hope alive. You just heard the fun talk hard rock music album raking band thinking joyce joyce breaking leered readings story sharing podcasts. That is a one the on set listing. Settling bruce is part of the southgate media podcast group. The theme for settlers bruce was written by david roseanne used by permission furry currently five wonderful pay return. I have wonderful. I have five patrons. I can't talk.

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When The Going Gets Tough

Daditude

45:24 min | 1 year ago

When The Going Gets Tough

"Larusso i'm al del benny. I wanted to say that again you you pointed out many. Oh ooh thought you would queuing me to say my own. I hate saying my own. I love it when you sit down around awake. Saying how are you. I'm good. How are you fantastic and it's looking good asked how we got. Thank you you smell. Nas you got the memo from las tell ya i got all of them. This isn't important series podcast. We're doing today. I've been looking forward to yeah because <hes> on we're gonna have a little bit to sign you up soon. Yes we've got a very special guest. Then we're going to be talking a lot about parental anxiety and depression and who we speaking to harry smith she's the ceo of panda which stands for perinatal anxiety and depression australia and <hes> very excited to have a chat with her because <hes> i think i went through some <hes> some postpartum depression and i didn't know dad's could do that and there's probably a lot of dads who doesn't so yeah. I think it's a good thing it's a hot topic like <hes> like you said before. You're so to stay close with. Everyone and you really don't know what everyone's thinking feeling going to have a baby. Being saudi brings terry can she's up some great web- sought some really cool cool tools. I'm told so. I can't wait to talk to her about that. Same here sal said in the intro there and you mentioned something and i just want to bring that back up. You said you don't hold all that. Don't hold it against non non but on intrigued. I wanna nephew eric hi to talk about. I should have probably asked you this before the podcast you went through some. You know maybe some daca guitar when you when you had your two beautiful children d. yeah. Can you happy to talk about sars. Should i should have asked now well yeah. Happy is a weird word describes. No it's fine like i say i'm an open wound. <hes> yeah you gotta get it all out i did. I think <hes> well i before i asked before i go into my d. Did you experience anything like like that or did but thinking back now i may have had some anxiety running into you know going through the preparation of who's going to look after the baby right and what happens if you they're all the obviously i think that's normal anxiety as well <hes>. I don't know it's weird. What happened to me was <hes> for some reason i think i think i would have been fully happy <hes> <hes> if i never had kids because all that stuff that i didn't like i just i just pushed it down and <hes> and i was and i was fine because i didn't know and <hes> and then i had my son <hes> in twenty in two thousand nine and he i don't know something about his face. He reminded me of me and all this stuff for. My childhood came back nothing. I'm not talking like i didn't have any any revelations like nothing. It was pretty traumatic. Foot nothing ever happened to me and stuff happened to everybody all around me <hes> but yeah i just and i couldn't i couldn't and fightback. He opened the floodgates and i think the stuff that i had kind of gone now. We're not going to think about just came rushing back and that was my own personal experience and <hes>. I remember telling other new dad's like oh. It's going to be horrible and <hes> you know six months later the like no it's all right like how how did you deal with. Did you have a friend or you contacted. You speak wasp about it. Well yeah yeah my wife and i think she went through to <hes> but we we my wife and i you know we talk about our feeling. That's really cool yeah yeah and and <hes> and i do this was in l. A. at the time i had a lot of close friends that i could like two or three which is a lot of people that i could talk to about this stuff <hes> but but it did it did really affect me and i kinda withdrew and isolated wow <hes> yeah and it was yeah. It was weird so <hes> did you did that. Affect your relationship relationship at always you want your children. It affected my relationship with everybody really like i really kinda. Just i went from mike pepper. Everything's everything's fine to just like all this responsibility and all these <hes> emotions that i thought were we're done with just came flooding in in and i just yeah it kind of broke me for a little bit and when this data limo we're talking about obviously dealing with some anxiety and depression <hes> and i think leading into having children. It's too huge step that you don't really we know especially with the first child what you're gonna feel them with rank to happen and that's obviously the yanks to building it up. But how did you come out of that dot place alabama obviously for everyone there is there's definitely opened the paper to speak to yeah magic mushrooms. No i'm kidding <hes> ecstasy no joking well eventually well. I moved to australia but <hes> as i learned <hes> what do they call those geographic solutions. Don't help <hes> because wherever i went there i was so then i <hes> yeah i went back to therapy and i got on. I got on some meds yep and <hes> and they're working and i'm going to be off the meds real soon. That's really good. News came out the other side so much better and and with work you continue to work. Oh yeah i had to work that whole time and i must be hiding your profession. It is because is you have to. I had to develop an act. That could basically do depressed. I used to do a lot of crowd work in crowd interaction and i liked being in the moment and and i and i literally he had to just write enact that didn't have to interact with the crowd with at all and i did it and at the time it got me through and it was good but looking back i like when i watched this one particular bigalow video i go. Oh wow i can tell i was like you could use a different person yeah yeah so can you did your friends will say what i'm trying to get at is if you've got friends or people people at the i mean obviously gonna notice a little bit of a changed anyone pick that up new besides you off obviously like i said my my good friends knew something was up and then you know living in l._a. There there are people who are in your circle but they're not really your friends because stuff like that happens. They just sorta go. They distance themselves that initial. Oh totally louis yeah yeah yeah totally <hes> until the point where i came back to the club one night and there was a new m._c. and he he went all you guys are gonna love the sticks out in my brain for some reason you guys are gonna love. This guy is really funny. This guy's crazy. I'm not crazy like crazy funny he in that that was a tip off to me like oh oh he thinks i've had some sort of breakdown or something because he just thinks he called me crazy in that. I am crazy. He had to pull back and it was it was really weird and i went oh. How did that impact performance at no. No no. We're professional went up and went crazy. I'm going to do but it wasn't. It wasn't easy but it's the kind of thing it's especially <hes> when you have children. It's like crap. I have no choice. I have to keep going absolutely the best of my ability in this you know dark dark depression and i did to the best of my ability and luckily my wife was there and and can pick up you know she's <hes> boy she held machine so so the biggest thing is if you are listening to this and you're feeling like you you know you may have you. You know you're struggling a little. You know some on definitely change in euros rachel which will get onto that novel talks terry soon but you've got to reach out and just be there for someone regular. It's just not once be there for yourself. Help like it does nothing you know about it exactly what it's gonna take the stigma out of it <hes> and that's the advantage of being american in america. It's pretty commonplace commonplace that people go to therapy and i think in australia it's becoming more like that <hes> but there was a stigma when i was a kid about you know people going to a psychiatrist and all that <hes> but it's it's really changed in the states but living here now <hes> you get ten free sessions yep which is great so take advantage of those. It's like you know if you saw a foot. You got to the doctor. Why wouldn't wouldn't you got something to tell you. What i did was <hes> this. This is what happened to me about. Maybe a year and a half or two years ago. I had a panic attack onstage which has never happened to me. Comedies always been my release. What did you think that what we tell you. This was the defining moment for me. I went oh my god and i had this panic attack on stage and that weekend went right right to my g._p. And i literally just sat down and went helped me. I said the words helped me. I need help and told him what happened. You know it doesn't seem might not seem like a big big deal to a lot of people but <hes> hang on reverse back on stage doing comedy gig young and what was the panic attack about nothing just you you feel like you're going to pass out. I just i was losing hunched over. I've had them before just not on stage and <hes> shallow breathing <hes> getting lightheaded. Just everything everything like nick but that feeling of just like <hes> drink. Do you drink water. I did but i like it was like a movie movie when they show you know it's just like they do real good job of showing panic attacks and movies because it's like i'm looking around the room and it all seems a bit surreal and a bit removed moved from it. <hes> in daytime show was a corporate so that also added to the anxiety because i'm not a corporate comedian <hes> but <hes> today all think it was part of the show well i didn't. I don't know if they knew 'cause. I'm grill good at hiding that stuff so i and then i basically finished and just left. I went from the stage to my car and i'm halfway down the block and the guys who booked me. Were like in front of the venue going like hey do so i came back to finish. Thanks for thanks for coming go. Hey yeah thanks and i you know it's weird still to be like sorry. I'm having a panic attack so i was just like <hes> so they just probably think i'm an asshole. <hes> because i get the mice loveliest comedian they saw a comic yeah. Go on stage and run out and have to come back and learn more about you in this last three three minutes. Maybe i'm not the open wound. I think i am i wanna hug you now. Do you keep your distance yeah. Well that's happened. That's but that just shows. You'll talking about it. Yeah and it's out there speaking about it so a lot of people. Aren't they sit back. They ball ball ball two lateen. Yes it's an australian thing to do. Dan talk about thing. I it's probably a person thing a lot of because my wife i think would do the same thing she just take it on. I think he probably did yeah <hes> so i it's like like <hes> i don't know in my and i even went through the feelings of like you know well not me. I don't need to get help. I'll and i thought in and out. I fought it for as long as i could until i they went to the g._p. And went just helped me. Help me yeah good on you yeah. That's what we need. We need advice where he'd help with got a professional now a real professional. You ought to talk through these terry smith and she's the c._e._o. Of an organization called panda yet stands for perinatal anxiety and depression freshen australia and we're gonna talk terry right now. Terry are you there. I sent me an oh. That's lovely to hear. How are you really well. Really well really really excited to repent is a fun name but a serious topic so can men have parental depression. Thank show can the coin now. It's actually one of the laced well understood experience of about the whole parenting experience which is a close or close a normal students. It's the most amazing transition any any people are going to bring in you baby into the world really hard amongst that to work what's going on but the the daughter is really clear. We know that one intake so one in ten new leads a gun to experience either depression earnings or mix boys <hes> sometime anytime and let's let's not not just like us on the world because we really need to think about this right from the start of pregnancy and actually happened before the by these interesting and why do you think people scared skid to put the hand up for help. I mean no it's a big stigma with kedah and every why do people men especially hauled back yeah that's such a it's a it's a big topic so there's a couple of things that are really important to identify so the first important reason that that man back from getting help is that this side easy focusing focusing on what's happening for the mom new bayview during pregnancy because mum's going through so much carrying that baby and because i don't know this can happen so actually there's a big group who simply don't recognize what's happening so that's the first grade then there's a second group and that's a really important group in nets about stick. It's it's really hot and you know some of these parallels with what happens the mums as well but it's it's. It's a different kind of hot. The dads and i think it's really important to acknowledge that you must man. They're going to the apparent so they've got this new baby. They wanna be the rock for the family. You know amongst on the hot dogs. Let's see on us. I'd say it's really hard. It's really hard to say ah weighed when moms having a hard time moore's head hans on <hes> but what about me on its helps so but it's not a competition. It's really important to recognize is that and i think sometimes i don't wanna costume any generalizations here but dads and not always that good at looking after the health anyhow so terry waters some of the symptoms fathers or expecting fathers. You know should look out full if they're feeling like maybe things are a little bit different. Maybe something's not rob but i anything i should tell anyone or is it. Just you know should you in a little bit of a hypochondriac. Fill something <hes> that's not one hundred percent run to to a doctor. Should you do that or is he should take a look at this really important things to think about so the first one and you mentioned that they are in that question really one of the things to think about is hang on these different. The united behind the difference is this. This is not saying like myself. If you behavior is actually changing you wanna think about a period in about two weeks way way symptoms pursue sometimes system some symptoms and a different for everyone but i might be about like a constant todd and so exhausted that classically <unk> comes with depression nicole set to bahaji look at when you go to when you buy because appropriate it's hard sometimes if physical responses could be headaches could a hard physical stress levels like muscle tension could be <hes> changes in appetite <hes> irresistibility anga moody leelee watch out for those ones emotional. Withdrawal is another really strong ones. Think about what's drawing from your partner from your baby from your friends. <hes> banks gates it'll talk to the baby is something to think about <hes> maybe system offensive association we do know that sometimes <hes> dead's sort of bonded themselves using alcohol or drugs to escape ports going on rather than bang out to get him in <unk> also possible sohn's rather than runs straight off to the doctor one of these. I want to suggest in some and it's a self primarily hibbitt profit organization trying to sell anything. We have an amazing chiklis. That's on our website of us good. I should look at titus roped-area. Yes it's so the checklist. It's totally anonymous. Posting i want to say we're not going to ask you are you are we're not gonna ask for name artists and we're sure sure as hell not going to you up so it's a commitment of about ten minutes because there's actually she betty questions <unk> checkbooks but it's really going to help you understand yeah actually foods. I anticipated hong kong and this is just what <music> owa actually maybe. There's something <hes> you could. You could get some help with and getting help. It doesn't have to be about you know the next however many amounts of of going off to see a therapist could base starting starting with a set of pandas and his counselors. They had some great strategies. You can news particularly. She curated surroundings on awning that hot rising all the time and and you thinking hacking an that caused you to not be able to communicate with the apartment we can take the right word just us dive into finding conversation and twenty to some other references way to talk about. What's going on the win. That's a that's an amazing resources that <hes> that's a panda dot org do any yeah. I wish i had that back when my kids were babies. I i'm still gonna go. Check it out just because some of those symptoms you mentioned. It's like well yeah. You're going to have those anyway. That's really the problem yeah yeah. It's a it's a very fine line between you know. Am i just <hes>. Do i have lack of sleep because i have a baby or you know. Am i depressed <hes> so i think that's that's amazing. I'm so glad that that's there and i am going to check that out. The other thing that's really important is that one in five months are going to have this experience. If you pot that's having the experience you're actually it right a risk the depression anxiety yourself. I can see that so so it's her fault kidding on just throwing something in no. I'm kidding. That's that's a great stand up comedian tiny now. This is all great stuff <hes> and and like you say so the triggers can demand can be anything from you know. It's just a whole new world. You're dealing with now and it's sort of unknown because i think with me. It was more it it it it crowbar open memories of my own childhood <hes> <hes> nothing that i would repressed her. I didn't have any major revelations but i just went. Wow i was a sad kid and when i saw my son's little chubby cherub face. All these things came flooding back is that is that like a valid thing in my normal person. That's that's what what you describing is something we've headlights. Dad's token doctrine savannah on a helpline. I really like to say absolutely everyone's experience is unique because i really are what happened to the next person i think i'm not the the <hes> because everyone really is unique but there are a whole lot of really common themes and si- <hes> it's it is very common to look at that. Look at that precious new bibey and say your own self in a different laws that this is a really special sean amazing transition. We don't wanna lose any of that but without without getting too complicated. I want side you. There's lots of people think this is all about hormones and that's that's why we you know we didn't understand for quite a while but man could have the experience to what we are now is that the experience can be not wanna roll off biological psychological and sociological factors so bio psychosocial. It's it's complex a whole lot of things that are going on in and you laugh and so it it doesn't discriminate. It can affect everyone in communion every expecting parent but they're awesome. K. respect is and so some of those <hes>. If you've experienced some some mental illness previously in your machen that wanna bain anxiety during usual exams fruits fruit or something i think something more ongoing or more serious that's a respectable family history of mental illness <unk> early early trauma and we live in. We live in a very complex six world wave. Thanks for the whole royal commissioners institutional abuse <unk> for people who have a history of trauma themselves <hes> that that's an added risk so so that group really needs to take extra care of themselves at this at this time because it can really make you think how come someone didn't go so well when i was a child and it sets the slow really complex in hashing but but as i said it doesn't discriminate so don't think oh i had a great childhood that doesn't make what happened intimate if it can cause you feel like it's something you have to move up to all you macho pressure about being at different parents of the one year father was all all the site pair. It's it's going across complex. Yes definitely talking to terry smith ceo panda terry. Thank you so much one one quick question. I've got a friend now who's just announced. He's he's offs pregnant. So what are the signs. You should be looking not decided as any issues but is there any fights nights or friends or people in situations habits change. We absolutely and i think it's the first the first one is lookout for people seeming to be quite different so they in the regular cells and look out for people with jordan's. Let them withdraw and rachel talk talk about that suitable about half. A cool haven't sold potluck how the feeling and we want. We want people to talk about it more star done. Just ask you might have asked cy. I know it can be told how's going in and and let them know that that they're not all by having people should bad about these feelings about twelve percent about cola's here at panda a dads. It's and we noted i. I feel really bad that they having feelings. What's what's the black am. I if i if i can't just let us in immediately fail so excited battle terry how what's the best way to bring that conversation up if you feel like your friends not just the same person what's what do you think any tips on how you can do that look. I just want to say that don t try to put aside the bit that i'm going to offend someone because that's what we hear all the time i don't offend someone also his so you might have broken a leg and wasn't get me help have a think about how you doing that they direct but show you showing you care and and coming ready with a racist comey and all you need to give them as pandas whipsawed house dead going website either one of them is and so you you giving them something so it's not too scary and let them know that it's that psychiatry and that it happens to that it happens to most people this is for like common just trying to break down some of that stigma normal laws drag it out into the light terry stigma you said that before what is stigma and how does that all come out kansas stigmas kind of you know an internal bias. I guess it's something that says i don't wanna be that. I don't want to be a dad who has a mental illness i don. I don't say myself as someone one who wake. It's it's all set around those kind of and museum in dad's wieners. I'd be seen as wake. I'd be not doing good job. I'd be a bad debt so none of those things things of real very real feeling so we know one of the things we often here at patras ubaid right dead. If you step out and get some help that's the best it can be there. Wow that's interesting. That's good feedback. And what can you tell us about stigmata nothing. I just thought you now. Maybe you had some on bleeding from the hands iraq terry if you're not going to help yourself you can't help your family. Can you yeah you have to help. I think about it as as as taking bribes stiff and to help your family if it's something you don't want to do for yourself do it family. He's he's not behaving himself terry who yeah me. He wants a group hug me. That's r- that's awesome. <hes> loved everything you guys are doing. They attari keep up the good work and it's not a prophet so hopefully getting lots of money raised and any we can do shout out. You'll be sorry you said that carries me. Thank very much for joining us on our podcast. Stigmata benny would really yeah. Do you know what stigma can explain it to me. You really don't know. Are you a christian or a catholic yup. Yeah which <hes> catholic catholic yeah you ought to know then stigmata is when christ was he people bleed from the hands like christ <music> spontaneously yeah they bleed from the hands the the ankles and sometimes side as well is still happen. Yeah we have pretty regularly. They do that on another podcast every thursday. It happens so al stigmata thursday. I loved that because i learned so much to reach chat. Stigmata thursday was funny and you. It sounds like something at the local bistro exactly comes down for many performing at eight p._m. What did you like most about it. <hes> stigma e you looking at me you and you stigma she. No i i love that. There are resources out there yup. I mean that's so helpful absolutely and especially for men these days who don't want to speak out white straight men need everything they can get in malwa always want. I think it's good panda is something you should reach out four and you just don't be ashamed. Don't be ashamed. There's nothing to be ashamed of and we we spoke about y'all pasta and europe they talking about it and yeah yeah yeah yeah i think <hes> the the more you <hes> at least at least in my experience where only as sick as our our secrets and if he was just that's why you are full of cliches. I am full of cliches but they're cliches for a reason because they're actually they're actually pretty good some of them yeah what we did. Hitler now is one in five women actually south from post nine over depression. Yes and what i thought was a good idea. We've got to go to mom and the show don't we. We do friend of the end of the show. We love sam sam. Yes and you'd cold salmon same to come into. I did and she's very happy to be here. Just look at she's beaming to judge moore mardi feeling that yes we we take camelot nascar advice on the show. Now we want. You'll store in your voice am yes. How many children do you have got to and what ages you children six and four so they're a boy to go outside. They've they doing what kids are doing plying on the devices. Yes yes in public. They make me look like a really good parent so tell us it's a little bit about you. I mean you've heard terry on the show today and we've come at it from an angle from dad's point of view but <hes> one in five women go through post-natal depression till you'll gore's i would call it. Postpartum postnatal typists neidl say. Let's call the whole thing off versus australian yeah yeah well. It tells me uh-huh well what i found interesting about what she was saying was saying biology. Psychology and sociology will all the three factors and i think that you know when you look at that environment of change that a woman has to go through. It's you know i'm surprised that it's only one in five that women are diagnosed with it. I think a lot of us probably experience it to some liberal and don't talk about it and that was certainly my case <hes> yeah i was. I think when people would ask me if i was a k. Always compelled to say yes and you you know i grew up in an environment where you know. Women didn't talk about these things. My my mother was the quintessential stepford housewives you know and it was all about image and her whole goal in life was raising raising children and having a home so i had no sort of example other than the one i was going to create myself so when anyone would ever ask me about the the reality of it. I gave them the the detail version that they weren't expecting so. When did you start to see a change in. What did you notice in myself. <hes> <hes> it was when we came home from hospital and yeah literally like within hours where you know i thought i had it together and i tried to both him him and the almost slipped out of my hands into the bathtub and then and then i was like then i tried to breastfeed him and he wouldn't want to eat but it was time for him to eat eight and then he did this like pusa nami and he was just so dirty that i was like. I've got to wash kit again. You know and i yes this is my first and <hes> i think it was more just the shock of like nothing going to plan and i remember are you saying in one of the early episodes how you would read a book about parenting and that would give you the worst case scenario and you kid was the worst case that was exactly how i felt with my first and <hes> so it was then i was like wow i have no control. Oh and i just felt like a complete failure. So did it get worse or did it. The next day we going through the stages less woah because i had and you don't realize at the time and this is hindsight and i'm you know six and a half years into parenting so what i'm doing yeah but at the time you know i had an oversupply of milk so i was breastfeeding so my my boobs were like you know triple the size talk and that's usually meant meant to be a great thing but they will just leaking all hours in pain and i was always worried that i was gonna get sick because you can get mastitis and then he was feeding every hour and a half twenty four hours a day for the first six weeks and when you have an oversupply of milk you actually end up with really fat babies because there are only ever getting the sugary milton drinking enough to get that milky creamy milk which is called hind mil <hes> so by the time i went went to the six week checkup. He was the size of a six month old. He was so big because he had so much milk and it was a sugary milk which makes them put on white. <hes> <hes> so i was dealing with all of that and i was zombie and i was also really resentful that my husband wasn't suffering the way i was you know he wasn't he wasn't because i was the one doing living the fading at nighttime. I tried bottle. He wouldn't latch onto a bottle <hes> and you know you. Just you know what you're doing and but obviously are the trolls was he could do and help out with any tried and i'm sure i was very critical. Critical you end and it was things like you know all see you can go off often. Keep working on your career and look your body still looks great and nobody's looking at your boy judging you <hes> so it was all those things that you just kind of yeah you feel really disillusioned by the whole experience of parenting especially as a mother and you know. I walked into parenting going maternal. I was made to do this. You you know fuck my career. Whatever i don't care i i was made to have a baby and then you do it and you go oh. This kid's actually annoying like would you just this shot up for a minute. I'd like to go to the toilet in peace so all of these things and it really wasn't until i joined mothers group at six months which is usually very late usually join earlier that i just just blurted out how hot it was and it was like a trigger for all of them to go actually to i feel the same well and we all must just i acknowledge that that was i k for that for us to have a conversation that way and because it was like therapy <hes> so that was kind of where i started to feel that my my experience was normal <hes> and that sharing testimony is actually a blessing for another person there definitely. Did you find so that did that help you. Yes that uh helped me a lot and but but it wasn't that we solve the problem is more dislike. This is really bad. Yes it is really bad. Mikey does the same thing and you just kind of you. Share the woes goes together so that makes you feel normal that you know. There's nothing wrong with aaron. So why didn't you wanna go seek. Medical advice is what you're saying the the front of being the lady in the house and you want to show you know week yeah i think i think there's a part of that that you know i'm very stoic about things and <hes> you you know i think about my grandmother my grandmother and all these women before me who didn't have it the way i did and <hes> you know even the decision for me to have my children naturally literally with no drug intervention really yep both time what's wrong with you. I know i think that's the myself now and i think i was stupid. But at the time it was more just a way of honoring the woman before me that they didn't have it easy wa- should i. I'm strong. I can do these agree with you and believe me. I'm probably talking way at at a school. Here is a man but but they also i think once the babies were born. I think they may have had it easier because that's all they were expected to and also they didn't experience experienced the sweet life like we did as women in this carnage always sipping champagne in south of france putting with my friends wearing whatever i wanted to weigh and then i had a kid and i couldn't do that anymore. So you know and that's my mother was of that generation as well. I mean she's not a certain all by any means but her life was all around having children enjoyed being a homemaker and whereas i was just like oh my god. How do i feel this kid in with everything else. I feel like parents. <hes> i'll say parents instead of women women or men but i think parents these days actually have it harder because we're expected to a._b. Amazing parents and also do all these other things that didn't didn't exist back in the day and i've heard someone say this quote and i don't recall who who said it originally but it was this idea that especially for women and i now men experienced transit as well that we have to go to work pretending like we don't have kids and when we're at home we have to pair it like we don't have a job so in it's this idea that you have to to be holy in fully invested in both <hes> out to do it is hard to probably impossible. It is impossible and that's that's that is the holy grail of understanding that you've got to reset your standards and acknowledged that if that laundry is not going to be folded for another week doesn't matter right. We're talking to sam. Sam's a friend of the show. Yes <hes> and we've got samuel today because sam's indicated that she's gone through some post-natal depression with what about when you'll say when you beautiful daughter was born. Did you go through the sorry. No luckily so i feel like my first child really broke may as a human being and it really challenged me had no control of anything in my live live and that was a very challenging time for me where i had to rebuild the idea of who i was you know and <hes> whereas with her you kind of have have this conference with your second that they're not going to die and i remember with my first. I would like lick my finger and put it near his noise. When he was sleeping to make show he was still breathing for no other reason other than just being irrational overprotective and that's kind of what drives me crazy or so and there was this constant fee whereas with the second one you know i breastfed for six months. Put her on the on the former. There was no good whatsoever. I mean my my mom. Put me on formula four months thirty five years ago. I said the guy i'm fine unhealthy so that's cool. So you know there's less guilt there was <hes> <hes> i was more determined and also because she was ago. I felt that i had to set a better example for her more a real woman. Is you know in in this modern day because i didn't have have that example. I had to be that for myself in some sense. This is the show for dads. I'm wondering in your opinion. What could your husband have done differently looking back doc or done better or where was he lacking. Where was he doing a good job. <hes> i think for us and i think terry may have touched and you said that it's the woman's woman's fault that if a woman crumbles the man crumbles with her because unfortunately what you see in relationships <hes> especially heterosexual relationships is is that there is a bit of a co-dependency of the man on the woman to somewhat be a bit of a mother towards him. You know you're the baby. She loves you. She does useful for you. She you know it keeps you. Tommy fool enables empty whatever you want that right <hes> and the token my house on you but but when the kid comes along those dynamics i have to change yeah right and and so i think that when i crumbled <hes> he didn't he crumbled with me. It was almost like shit like uh wherein like this is chaos you know what do we do and i'm like what what are we should we doing so i don't know you know and so i think that that was that was an an opportunity for us to kind of reset the power dynamics in their relationship <hes> did i add did it scare you though saying going through with your first baby and then having the second baby thinking thinking on i forgot through all this again or did you get to a stage of knowing you know the symptoms how to push through yeah. I think a big part of it for me was my identity you you know in that <hes> i didn't look the way i did. You know i was a size eight. Oh you go to the gym. All the time i look after myself and then all of a sudden i i had to deal with things that my buddy couldn't fit into any clothes for the had to lose way and not because of any other reason other than i identified myself through the way i i looked and once i established that and i got back to the pre baby body after my first thought came well now i know what to do and i realized that i had all of these bad habits while i was pregnant <hes> so it was almost like i walked into the second pregnancy knowing exactly what i was going to do to be myself again. <hes> you and you were able to do that yeah and all the changes that happened to me. I had a plan k right well. I'm going to breastfeed for this. I'm in a try this type of bottle. I'm gonna do formula formula and i've looked into which woman i'm gonna lose and if this doesn't work then that's fine. I'm going to try this and it was almost like this. Willingness to experiment is what what was different with a second child versus the i swear it just all fear and you're always worried that you're going to hurt them. We'll just comes back to nothing can prepare you for that first child literally nothing and and and when you're talking about bringing your first baby home ah that was what i went through as well with just the shock of this is the way it's going to be for saying that really was a trigger for me to the first time emme woke up in the night. I just went oh crap. What have we done. Yeah isolate through that alarm so with did you do your husband on your husband husband. Did he go through any depression. Do you think i think in hindsight yeah. I think it started for him. The moment we got the pregnancy test back with the two lines and i remember waking him up because it's like you have to you have to pay on a streak and it's the first way of the day <hes> and so it was like five a._m. I get out. I do the thing and i see a white in the bathroom for three minutes and then there's a second faded line that pops out yeah and then i remember just waking him up going on my god. I think what pregnant. I think we're pregnant. You know there's no. You can't be sure you don't know that there's a second line and of course he was in denial until i had the blood tests which we were so were you trying or no <hes> well. I went off the pill and i think that i was kinda. Just you know the deal yes when he was happy because he was getting it all the time and and there wasn't much science beyond that really <hes> and i think we fell pregnant a lot quicker than what we expected the time <hes> so he felt this pressure and i think for him that pressure never went and so you know he had to be the single income earner <hes> you know he had to step up and be a man whatever that means so i think this pressure that he we had on himself <hes> and you know when a woman wants to have a baby. She wants to have a baby so i think that you know it's not like he could have stopped it or whatever you know what i mean so <hes> and then that probably just spiraled wants. The kid came home. You know the the moment. My son came out of me. <hes> he was a screamer he was just crying crying and crying and crying and i was delirious at the time but i just enhance i go that still who use he's loud and outspoken and it's my kid yeah. So what do you think you do differently if you could take yourself back a few years him well. I think it's not so much what i would do differently. I think that the resources losses that are out there now they when we were having children or if they were they want the loud minority <hes> so having resources like panda <hes> or even just setting up an expected parenting group instead of mother's groups. You know there's this expectation that it's only women that you know dads can come belong and share their experiences well without judgment you know. I think that there should be more community. You know interventions but a lot of men lose their friends when they become parents. That's it's so true and i think that you know <hes> they should be an encouragement for both parents to still maintain some social life 'cause for me. It was my friends. Who are my friends friends before. I had children who reminded me always who i was <hes> and it was them going. No no. You're still the same person. You just got these two little accessories that it just reminded me going. I haven't changed. It's just that the situation around me has. That's okay <hes> but i think intervention for for father's equally are just as important important for women <hes> and you know i i think at the time if my husband had come up to me and said i'm not coping i can't do this. I probably would have punched him in the face in fact i'd probably punch him anytime in particular that at that moment because you know i think from a woman's perspective ego. If there's anything anything that is ours. It's having children like that is the thing for women <hes> and you know i would have felt at the time that he was trying to take away from what my experience was if he wasn't coping <hes> but in hindsight you know everyone has to feel particularly and it doesn't matter how you feel and that's fine <hes> but it's almost like well. What are we going to do about it. You you know you fast forward a few years and you've got you know and it gets easier. Doesn't it well. I guess well. I say it gets easier. What i say is they. Kill your spirit enough for you to just go whatever whoa good you know i think that's it and i think <hes> i think back in the day people spirits were already killed like i i think we we live in this new age of empowerment and you know the secret and if you can just picture it you can have it and we're entitled and then these kids come along. We go oh crap now i have. I have to do this before it was like yeah. Life is hard. You know like in the forties i'm talking about. It was just like it's all kind of bleak and then you just have these little kids and the way children were looked at like you have kids in the forties and they would help they were little workers basically <hes> and now it wasn't until i think the the fifties that kids became like oh. Let's let's cherish them unless worship them and let's say child slaves that what you want any kinda no trauma but because that was my thing when my kids were born i went. We people have been having babies since forever so this should be come naturally but what's not natural as all this stuff we impose on parenting and on ourselves and i think that's what gets into our heads and messes us up see and this is the thing that everything and this is the same thing with breastfeeding with parenting. It's its natural but you still have to learn it. Yes and i think that was the thing that i realized is that. I still had to learn how to breastfeed. I still had to learn how to love and had built a relationship with this a human being even though they mine and from my body it's all have to learn these things even though they what we would say natural all right. I found breastfeeding very difficult. I can imagine so sore shaved. It was fun. So when did you actually actually after your your was when bay between one or do you think then you start a gun. You know what i'm getting through this and you realized you had the problem well when i realized that my emotional and mental state was not well was within the first week of coming home from the hospital but even just the trauma of having a baby like in and just relieving the birth experience in my head you know you just basically hanadova your dignity and your humanity to appeal to roomful of people watching you and i went into the private system and i think nurses and obstetricians are used to having women give birth without intervention and and so for them it was probably i was the woman in the birthing suite screaming. I need to push now like i was always very vocal and and you know i'd imagine like other couples walk into the way people walk into the birthing suite out. Both things sway me in that room. Screaming we know and one of the midwife said to me you know that <hes> i was the youngest mom at the time that had seen in fifteen years i mean i was twenty eight when i had my first so that's not young but it's certainly the younger than having names days <hes> and i think that whole trauma of just feeling that you have no control started from that my meant said let's let's. I've loved this chat me to feel normal. I feel much more relaxed actually yeah thanks sam. Thanks for joining us. Thank thank you so much for coming. In san survey shows aides france's push to say you think right well that was cool. I enjoyed having salmon's judea yeah. That's that's an interesting story. No it's very i think it's it's good for <hes> fathers to two under obviously the mother's point of view absolutely yeah yeah and and and and she's playing with the two beautiful children hello i'm terry was great as well recapitalize websites out to everyone yeah. The first one was panda dot org dot e._d._u. And the and there's another website is called. How is dad going dot org dot a._u. To which you could go and see how how your dad is doing. I think and there's people out there all the time to help you and you just have to you. Just literally have to ask for help. Go to your g._p. Like i did exactly what can i tell you something. He was very excited when i said that he was like get someone actually admitting yeah yeah and it's and it's great. I felt very i actually felt supported and taken taking care of it's great and that's you know that's a big big deal and if you're listening to this and you know you need someone to talk to you. There's always laughlin flaunted their thirteen eleven fourteen tain. You can contact them twenty four seven seven days away and they sell clothes they do. That's hey donate money to launch. Yeah we love we do out. Thank you so much. I enjoyed every every minute of it with the most toy. Yeah i'm hungry. She's joy uresti weight off thanks.

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ReMastered Episode 207 TTWT Bella Pori

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ReMastered Episode 207 TTWT Bella Pori

"We have one more show to discuss. reissue remastered <hes> on the series of ti-time with Terry episodes that were unsettling bruce in this is Bella Pori. Bella has been on the show multiple times she is absolutely wonderful. One of my favorite people and she was very eager to join tearing. I discuss thus her songs. What was amazing about? Bella is that even though she's only been alive <hes> enough to pick three songs she ended up picking six because she came up with a not only three pop songs but she wanted to do three Broadway tunes and <hes> thought what the heck it's our game so we'll make the rules up as we go. The other interesting thing about this episode is that this is a repeat <hes> Bella tearing I all recorded we talked for over an hour and then after the end of it I realized nothing taped <hes> that doesn't happen a lot aww but it does happen once or twice a year on me and so we had to reschedule and re <hes> record and of course nothing is the same <hes> because every conversation station takes its own twists and turns so this is <hes> the re recording it still came out wonderful <hes> of course it would with Belen Terry but it is kind of interesting that some of the stories she's telling us we we'd already heard and we were like Oh. That's interesting so anyway. Here is Bella and Terry and I discussing her tee time with Terry. This episode of Set Listen Listen cruise is brought to you by tweet Donnie podcast fan is so tweet on your headphones. Make the perfect gift for awesome headphones. Go to tweet DONYO DOT COM use the coupon code southgate to get thirty personal free shipping and a lifetime warranty. You can also get there to sign south getting media through DOT com. Please go civil so gruesome. My name is Olivia Eisenhart. I'm a writer in New York City and when I'm up all night buried in notes I'm listening to set lessening Bruce. I can see myself to Golden Sunrise bar open up your is supposed to be all day now. All Go Haraz and bomb. You won't Stop Fan you've own Candy Way and the wind will be tousled. Hey The sun the rain the sweet despair grave tales of love and somewhere around your path Gloria you wear right Joe Stole Ray of a lie ooh everyone and welcome to a new episode of settling Bruce Your podcast all about Bruce springsteen his music and mostly his fans. I am your host Jesse Jackson and today we we have one of our special teatime with Terry episodes. That's right the podcast where we go back in time and discuss someone's life through a selection of songs joining me as always when we have tea with Terry is Terry Hi Terry Hi Hi Jessie. How are you doing today? I'm good I'm good when we're looking go ahead sir that was just say looking forward to another <hes> another interesting episode. I always enjoy. I always have a blast to have a question <hes> as we record this. It's the Saturday before Thanksgiving now in Scotland. Do you still celebrate thanksgiving. <hes> we'll going to actually <hes> so we are making a point we had <hes> we have pumpkins outside outdoor for Halloween which drew some comments from the neighbors because that's not what the scouts do <hes> and we all planning to celebrate celebrate Thanksgiving and our neighbors actually invited Iran for tea and cake which is a bit appropriate given the name of this next Saturday so we're gonNA take a Pumpkin Pie with us <hes>. It's it's one of the holidays we really loved in the states. I used to describe it to Brits as Christmas without the Hassle. Many other people say too and I wondered if you would do that because I know that if if we moved away and we would want to celebrate and bring all our friends in like oh well you have to understand this is a great day of just enjoying family and friends and absolutely <hes> and our main contestant celebrity guests is bill lapore friend of the podcast one of my favorite people. How are you doing Bella? I'm doing good I actually. I don't think I would bring Thanksgiving if I moved. Oh Wow wow I it's not one of top holidays. I gotta say and last year I went to my mother was working in Myanmar for the year and I went to visit her over Thanksgiving and it was it was kind of Nice to not do Thanksgiving we just we went to like a weird French restaurant in the middle of me and Marin had fries and a waffle and it was it was great. Well I do agree that it's sometimes fun to mix up Thanksgiving and not do Turkey and dressing or may maybe maybe we should do. We should do Thanksgiving Pakistan in the show. Oh boy so for those of you who don't know <hes> Bellas tells a little about yourself and then Terry <hes>. Why don't you explain the teatime permits? Thomas will operate so I'll start with an introduction. My name is Bella. I live in Brooklyn New York. I I used to be a government employee and I'm currently a lawsuit because being a government employee doesn't pay very well and I needed a career a change <hes> so I'm in my first year school and I'm getting through it getting through it cool <hes> I'm <hes> I'm Terry Smith and <hes> I'm the person who came up with this this well. I hope interesting format people is so I may Nah sixty one year old Brit never retired <hes> fairly recently <hes> lived in Seattle for seven years but moved back to Scotland in the summer <hes> <music> on actually. We're celebrating a second new house today so life. It's starting to come back to normal relations. Thank you moving across the world in this stressful enough to move within the city. I can't can't imagine moving across the world. Yeah I have to say that we are not planning to move our life five thousand miles again <hes> and actually the most stressful thing about it was we had we have two dolts and moving them was far more difficult than <hes> than Lynn everything else but they were they were fine. It was just as distressed I know a girl who just moved to Scotland for. She's going to school as well and she the most stressful thing about it for her with getting her dog there because she really didn't want to crate her dog August like the the below area of the plane. Don't the whole really didn't want to create her dog. She almost paid for a transatlantic cruise so she could take her dog on the cruise with instead of the plane seriously seriously I'm when we were at the height of our stress because we did have to crate altos his <hes> and I said to my wife about you know what it would have been easier to stick on a Cunard liner and she looked yet they still would have had to be created and I was like sorry and she said don't worry. I investigated the bad news on crazy. You have to keep me in the CREPE six weeks so <hes> but but they were fine but that was stressful but it's nice to get rid of Kabul boxes because we have three hundred and seventy those on all decorates literally moved out this morning so life is good so let me tell you you think you're aware but <hes> for people listening that the premise behind this which we into the past episodes of a big time with Terry fat the listener and we always like to reset the promiscuous hey hey. That's what podcasting one radio one one is so please continue abets. Let's hope there are some new people that <hes> so I as I say I stopped work mid last summer. One of love the things I was anxious to do with to sort of keep up the social side <hes> work out a lot of friends <hes> onto the delights of working for Microsoft <hes> over the years people that being around for Aw Bays or dinner and I love music is a passion for me too so his hi Fi <hes> so I'm saying my music moment which has about I think I counted up twenty-nine different bits of equipment <hes> so people would come round and say a typically male law always typically male <hes> and some point we get five or ten minutes from me too quickly play something and people would say be great at an evening. <hes> we got a few hours have some food and drink and and listen to music so I started doing them. <hes> I Richard on a Tuesday so that the the <hes> Sheryl Crowe Tuesday night music club <hes> Ahmed a friend of mine a guy who's actually done a podcast <hes> we just say cold dampening he it was him who said if you're gonNA have a format you need a name and it was him who named it teatime with Terry <hes> suitably British thing we didn't use to serve cake but we did serve pastor in wine and beer said always the background and then I had the pleasure of <hes> being invited onto Jesse's podcast and we talked to the end I asked him to stay on and just how he got into podcast. <hes> at night inactive great generosity he's well. Why don't you do it and he's helped me and hey we all so that's the idea and really the format is favorite song from each decade of your life and the reason I came up with a format was when I did my first few music evenings reflecting on them they were great fun but they basically consisted of me playing the fest forty five or sixty seconds of track that I liked shouting to the pope has news with me doesn't that San Fantastic and then playing the next track the I liked so this was a way to get <hes> my guests to at least get to listen to some of the things that they like so? That's the background so I have a question question than I. I'm sure you've explained it on other podcasts but I forgot. What is hi Fi? What makes hi fi different than regular stereo? <hes> won't is price that would be my wife's. I response which is apparently need lots of black boxes so great question. Essentially what it does is if you look at if you have a WOM- box stereo system today then in that it has a power supply has pre amplifier has an amplifier has various components and what Hifi tends to do is break those down into individual boxes therefore oh you can get the quality of those boxes a lot higher and what you can do by separating power supply in those boxes. Is You take an awful lot of the electrical noise act so basically it signs much more like pure music rather than you're playing it through and a piece of electronic equipment they but that's also the reason why I drive an old mini and don't have a nice car is. My Nice car is set in my music is that's where I spend the money but and it's it's a it's a bit of an obsession and it's very geeky and we do worry about which way the cables run and all all of this nonsense so it's it can it can get a bit flatter society <hes> but it does sound great. That's awesome and that's I think Jesse's mentioned something like this before but I I I love when people are like really into something even if I'm not into it and I don't get it I I love when people have that one passion that they're very very invested in can talk about forever be we do have in the house the the very first system that my dad taught me when I was fourteen. It doesn't work anymore. It's at the top of the stairs so it's actually his fault because I got interested thirteen fourteen and then he he <hes> invested in supported me and here we are whatever forty forty seven years so that's the premise so I mean over to you and I question on Jesse was us which I think is a great question which is given that format. How did you talk about this? What was the thought process? 'cause it's always interesting that people approach it very differently yeah so I have an twenty five almost twenty six so I only have three decades to to work with 'cause I was born in ninety three so I can only pick three songs and I was. I didn't want to pick my favorite songs from those decades in my life just because of I'm a really big fan of musical theater and for very long in time all I listen to with musical theater but that does not. I don't think you have a picture of what music was doing in my life so what I tried to do was I tried to pick my favorite song from artists who is very relevant in that coin in my life so I didn't WanNa pick something that just I loved. which is why spoiler alert? There's no bruce springsteen on my playlist below I exactly I wanted to pick things that if I showed this this playlist to someone my age they'd be like Oh my gosh yeah I remember that Song I love that song and I wanted to pick songs that I thought really spoke to my generation and the music styles of my generation and when people look back on you know the two thousand in music which is really the I think the most relevant decade for me because I was sixteen when you're sixteen like that's when subsidies a good six with sixteen now I was whatever I was a teenager and that's the music you hear that kind of sticks with you forever so I wanted to pick something that anyone from that who grew up in that decade would be like Oh my God yeah of course that's all interesting interesting yes so they're not all the songs I picked are not all necessarily my favorite songs uh-huh but they are all songs that I really like do listen to and on the flip side think that other people who I could play them forward really like like if I was driving in the car I'd put these song and not embarrass myself with my other lists. Yeah I guess that was always part of of my thinking when the format together with I would say to people. This doesn't have to be your favorite piece of music. It doesn't have to be a favorite song but for me Sunday when I was. I think it's it's this piece of music when I hear it. It instantly takes me back to that. Time has those associations in yes so I and I didn't do there are some songs things that you know like rocket me back to seventh grade. I did not pick those because I did not like seventh grade now linked to the song that I like that also doesn't bring up memories of like Oh God that one horribly awkward dance you know breath like didn't pick those songs green day on the playlists go on. You have to tell that story. Oh I'm so green day was what I was in the twelve or thirteen. Thirteen ingredient was so popular. I think it was right. After of American idiot came out and you know so it was yeah it was definitely when I was young since before Obama we were all like in the throes of the Bush years in Green Day. You know it was really speaking to that <hes> and also right when we were all twelve ingredient was the hugest they came and toward my hometown which dairy very few bands ever came to Albuquerque. It wasn't a big market in the two thousands of so green bay came everybody. Nobody got obsessed with Green Day and they we would people would play it constantly but I I didn't like redick because again I was a musical theater Geek. So everyone was playing green day. Everyone was like so much cooler the knee and like I thought they were too intense and too punk. I didn't like the grunge aspect of it. I didn't like the IMO aspect of it but everyone else did until it was the soundtrack to many an awkward moment in middle school yeah well I what did he say Green Day and those sort of awkward moments because <hes> My son who is Kinda moves now twenty eight I took him to his first big concert and it was in Manchester and it was Green Windy <hes> I'm we tend up and without learning this big stadium and the hottest seat in front of his and the next minute these six girls turned up clearly a couple of years older than ah you know there's this sort of slight awkwardness and the end of the gate. We are not by I I was. I was not a massive fan and I do it was a brilliant show. They did a fantastic job. Every show loved it yeah <hes> they really you know in these triple sense but it is it is one of those classic albums the I have on CD vinyl high Def download Andy Fulmer. I can get so <hes> but we came out the gate. We get back in the car and I'm trying to count them and that said you know you seem you seemed to be quiet and subdued but first concert and forty thousand people and he said that wasn't the problem. What was he said? You know what you make. The OH I come sentence not cool to Gig with your dad and I literally said it's Okay You did find my dad loves me. He loves live music and he for many many years would take my siblings to Coachella the Big Music Festival in California and the The you know the twenty five year old girls who like the pretty pretty thin girl with a flower crabs thought it was so cute Negoti my brothers who were maybe like fourteen at the time that only God. Is this your dad. That's so adorable. Your Dad brought you to Coachella. They'd be like climate in Acts Kush. It'd be like again. They're my children. They're fourteen plays in well. I would makes me laugh about that. Story Terry is <hes> one of the PODCAST I listen to fairly regular is pin Sunday school with Penn Jillette and he was telling the story that just this past week or so had to go meet his daughters <hes> teachers at school and his Moxie is his daughter's name and Moxie looked detriments said to rules. Don't cuss say anything stupid of course meals every time in like a couple of times. She kicked him under the table and yeah just like oh well. That's what it is is a great story and little. Did your friends growing up realize that one day bellawood would you know move to the big city politics go to law school multiple podcast and became one of the cool kids. I actually all the all the friends I had awkward moments. We are still friends today. I've been in several of their weddings. It was just middle. School is a rough rough for everyone to figure out who we were becoming and we were all becoming ourselves at different rates and end but I do. I'm still friends with a lot of those those same girls. I loved them deeply. Oh that's awesome yeah so what's what's your first choice them better all right so I was googling. I wanted to see with the number. One Song was on the day I was born to you know see like okay. What was the music of the Nineteen Nineties Lake and turned out the number? One Song on the day I was born is also one of the most popular songs of the nineteen nineties I just decided to pick it. <hes> it it is I will always love you by Whitney Houston yeah so that was my first choice because I felt like I mean she's incredible. That song is amazing. That song is everywhere like everyone knows that song <hes> and it was number number one in February in nineteen ninety three. I was like I'm going with sweet man moby that is so I'm taking me he so good we know uh-huh and that is a great choice. <hes> the story of the Song <hes> in the how many different lives Darlie pardon song has been ah is just amazing and and you know and she kind of small's about it and talks about it but you know the when she originally released it <hes> when Whitney Houston <hes> I think yeah she added it to the best little whorehouse in Texas I mean this is a very versatile song and a very personal song so yeah I think so Elvis Elvis really wanted it and he had a rule that if you gave your song to Elvis like he got you know half the money you ever made from the song and Dolly Parton just like seven or guts. I don't WanNa give it to him. I don't WanNa lose that you know I don't WanNA lose like ownership of my song so she you know she turned down the sound. Just like you can't have the song. Apparently she went home and cried her eyes out like I can't believe I didn't give Elvis Elvis and then she said that you know years later Whitney Houston recorded it went to number. Why is she was like Oh? I made the right decision not getting mantell this yeah. I don't I think Colonel Parker plays did Elvis disservice toward the middle and end of his career having those kind of strict restrictions I I believe I told the story on the podcast before but he they barbara streisand wanted Elvis to play the part that Chris Ca- sophism played in the <hes> a star is born not the latest remake but that was good stadium. She wanted to play the Bradley Cooper part or the part Colonel Parker said Elvis top billing anytime he's in a movie stars and like Nope visit and not the movie and got not that Kris Kristofferson wasn't amazing but you wonder if that would have re would've may be saved Elvis's life in acting and done something and he would have been amazing racing in that I mean what a perfect role for him to play yeah he would have been really really well not movie by yeah and that's why the management is just as important which is why I mean to bring it to Bruce springsteen. I think he was very smart. Mark you know since the shifting winds and get rid of Mike Appel when he did if I have the delights of meeting Mike Appel really <hes> and we were it was at Metlife we were in a line for bear and I turned around looked on we got we got talking and he said I'm Mike Appel by the way and I just couldn't resist limited. It's I said it's okay. I know who you are and I said. How are you feeling what about in these days it'd be great great but it was really quite spooky? You turn around and you look and you think yeah you twenty five thirty years older than the pictures but you're a mistake but <hes> I'm just looking at. I'm judging that L. and all it was also he felt he felt the need to tell that will Terry Smith that he was Mike Appel. I'm like who you are like. Don't introduce them be like Oh. I'm famous by the way that's Gauche. I don't like it a- have you. Have you absolutely any idea who I am. No just like if someone doesn't know your mic of how just be happy that they don't know you're my the thing. Is You get into that thing that you'll the bruce bull fan so therefore fool if I did not know he was that then spread on me. That's very if it was me I'd be like hey has anyone ever told you look a lot like Mica Pal. I am Mike Appel that <hes> <hes> I like ran into Larry Kramer. The Guy who wrote the normal heart big HIV AIDS activists on the street and I was like I definitely Larry Kramer but I didn't want to go be like what's up Larry Kramer so I was just like hey. has anyone ever told you you look a lot like Larry Kramer. He was like come on they I know but it was interesting. In my days the early days you know we go to these big sales conferences and on the last day Bill Gates come out and he would always introduce himself always made me smile because you know he just got a three minutes done innovation and then he looked very awkward embarrassed and then eventually people sit down and he go hi. I'm Bill Gates and it's like with the whole Amazon because Amazon is coming to New York which we're all very upset about my friend and I were talking and we were like the only good rich person is bill. Gates is the only one the only guy who was like okay. I built something amazing that everyone uses every three days and I'm going to give all my money the polio research will you know the the amazing thing for me about bill as Walden obviously Olaf philanthropy but he's best friend. Best friend is Warren Buffett offit. I'm Warren Buffett decides. I want to give away my fortune to philanthropy but I'm going to give I'm going to give it to bill because he knows how to do this so it's not often that your best friend gives you thirty billion dollars go to work with it. which is what he did? I mean it's how good good for Warren Buffet though too. I WanNa make an impact and I know someone who knows the best way to spend this money so I'm just going to give it to him. That's let's I'm basically too old stuff. I know someone who does just get him back to Whitney Houston and I knew rated Jesse. I just looked at longest running U._k.. Chart toppers <hes> and it's actually Bryan Adams was sixteen weeks with everything I do. I do it for you. A bankole of ankle wet wet wet to most people I suspect in America wouldn't recognize <hes> under the two we'd love is all around and then you go. That's it's four weddings and a funeral. Yes Whitney Houston was number three on the most the most successful song ever recorded by female artist. Wow woah that yes. She's just I mean it's it's singular. It's a singular song well. There's nothing lights starting at the top of the woods exactly successful something ever I. I can't even real hot for the two thousand. This one was really really tough. This is when I was most exposed to music. It was before I kind of formed my own musical tastes so I was really listening to everything <unk> <hes> it was when I still drove so I listen to the radio all the time. It was really tough. I'd so much to choose from but ultimately I went with Mr Bright side by the killers because I felt like that is a song that you can go up to any white millennial lineal and be like coming out of my cage and they will finish the rest of the song for you. People love that song that will also dance. Yes Oh yeah <hes> it's one of those. It's one of those great songs that just gets the gets people in that that at first album I can still remember the first time I heard the album. It was one of those while 'cause sending in the U._k.. The killers that Baid nothing kate was like it came from nowhere and then that was what everybody he's listening to that summer yeah. It totally came out of nowhere. It's it's a good song even to this day like it's a song I'll put on and really enjoy <hes>. It's a song I still you know here at parties people so put it on mixes because it's just it's a great great song. It's one of those songs or you're like. I don't really know exactly what this is about but I love it. It started as calling a cab talk to save you drag my stomach. Just say she's touching now. Eh Inch yes. We're working out the mystery of lyrics yeah that just makes it so much more fun for me. <hes> and I really love that song. My friends saw the killers live and I posted something to her instagram that day just like stop playing no instruments no singing. I'm the whole crowd just did basically typically all of Mr Bright side because everybody loves that so much yet it is one of those things that I think it seems to sort of increased in the last ten fifteen years you will go to gigs or festivals and and you get this sort of Singalong in the house a lot with Bruce but <hes> I was I now after delight I go to Austin city limits every episode about a grim episode dude. I was so proud of the I think the one you're going to reference the like techno show. Everybody put their glose except in the air. I got chills thinking about that. Oh that was fun. Honestly that was one. It was fantastic. A two eight with I think it was the fact that it was so unexpected. You know this one band or genre music I particularly have interest in but <hes> so no eight hours to actually get a reference I was going to reference the year before aw when the Red Hot Chili peppers they headlined <hes> It was Exa- reminded me actually a lot in the killers they have quite a lot of intricate lyrics in their songs but here was a festival audience were clearly there was at least thirty thousand people in the audience who knew every single lyric and there is something magic about that many <hes> I I've always I can only imagine what it's like to stand on a stage and hey if thirty thousand the people sing back to you of the wrote that must be quite does have to crave all I will say I saw the Red Hot Chili peppers live in L._A.. which is like their home turf? I I it was not very impressed. I mean I had time but yeah I think <hes> with the lead singer's name Anthony Candice Keita's I think he was sick and so it was just it was not really a great show. Oh Oh that's a shame yeah and it's funny with Austin because you know I've got a couple of albums <hes> but I'm not big fan so it was another sort of set that I went to thinking Oh. Let's see what this is like and it was really really good. <hes> although you you probably heard on the protest issue we we did do that with Metallica and we did what Song Chili peppers was a pretty. I am a my father is a huge red hot chili peppers fan so I know like most Red Hot Chili peppers songs weirdly but the crowd was pretty mellow lot of weed but pretty mellow crab but METALLICA I wouldn't if I see him METALLICA show I want to be in the back. I don't want to get in the mosh pit. I don't want anyone to you know had hit me or punch me or God forbid lift me up. I went to a gas light. Show recently in this guy was like you know pets and people out but I turned to the guy next thing I was like do not kick me out but he was like I wasn't got an I was like I'm just making sure we're on the same page. Do not touch me. When you say Gus Light Show? Oh gaslight anthem. Are you did fly down. So who is the guy you had just recently who discovered bruce through gaslight anthem uh-huh steady and I have to think about that <hes> jared wasn't it. Yes I think so yeah <hes> so yeah. I thought that was that was that was fascinating. That was his route into Bruce so <hes> in two two thousand nine when Bruce Played Glastonbury so my son was at Glastonbury while for the weekend on the Saturday bruce came out and joined the gaslight anthem show in the afternoon he headlined Saturday tonight and then on the Sunday he played Hyde Park and I was high park and Brian Fallon came out like that is what am I favor videos and one of my favorite versions of no surrender and I still whilst I think Brian is is lost his web although he's touring as I think he's turning the U._S. but he's in the U._k.. In February and it's Im- and Craig Finn from the whole study yeah I've heard amazing amazing show but yeah that no surrender it's it's with just watching for the three minutes of bronze selling grinning. I mean you can see he just cannot believe what is happening. It's stuff so and say go from the two thousands to the Nosey God i the the two thousand ten's is what I call them. I don't I don't think we have any good generation names for the two thousands of the two thousand ten. I don't like the ought stupid but for the for the two thousand two thousand tens of so I kind of like by the time I got to college. I knew what kind of music I liked. <hes> actually I had a radio show in college park exposed to a lot of different types of music but you know I I like what I like. I don't really listen to popular music as much anymore. Except when it's like a moment like a popular culture moment where like if you're not listening to the album you're behind on everything and so one of those things was beyond lemonade and everyone we're almost like you have to watch lemonade like it's. It's all anyone was talking about. It was supposed to be really amazing so I watched it and my friend was like there's one song that I really think you're gonNA like it. She's like I'm not going to tell you but I'm really curious. which song is your favorites? I was washing lemonade now. It's like Oh my God. This is so a good like bringing in you know she's given up everything that was poetry was history. It was you know the black female experience in credible and then she gets to the song freedom and I was bored. I think I went back and watched. What's that like four times? It's quickly become probably my day if that my favorite song of the decade like it's definitely I think it's absolutely my favorite beyond thought but I think it's it's in. In an album that is certainly the best album of the decade. I think beyond say is the greatest act touring today in terms of the show she puts on now. I still think Bruce Show is the most fun anyone can have at a rock at a concert period. I think beyond say is doing something very interesting with her. Show I think it's almost type of performance art with the choreography. The costumes brings in video and you know people have the same type of religious experiences beyond say shows they have fruit shows and I think that she is going that'd be widely regarded as probably the greatest artist of definitely my generation and I think that lemonade is has revitalized the modern album. I don't think I think it made people look very seriously at the genre of albumin one minute spotify world and it's just I had to give it I had to put beyond saying I'm here with freedom. which is my favorite song off lemonade in the the painting me older tell the tweet out new? I'm telling you this is both made a s the and a lot of stuff to talk about ascension your comment the it's sort of redefine the album or reintroduce people to that because I I guess for me I've you've full tooth and nail to lose it Alo- I put music on shuffle as much as anybody else just I'm interested not been patronisingly of somebody of your generation and age. How what what? What does that look like that says? Hey this album thing I kinda get. I'm yeah because people don't really people as a whole. Don't really listen to albums like you might really like and I think you can look at modern popular artists as has kind of proof of this. I don't know Cardi. B. Has released an album like she is the hottest rapper I think she's the hottest popular rapper on the scene now and I don't know if she even has an album out and if she does I have no idea what is called I. I don't know what songs on it. I don't think she'd give thought to attract listing if she was making one and that's not to diminish. Cardi B. is just not how people consume music anymore. You know people consume music in little bits and I think that is such a <hes> important point <hes> to talk about because I know Chris hasn't bought an album in years. I think the only time he gets an album is when I <unk> by him a C._D.. And send it to them. You know I'm sure he just picks and chooses songs and he you know his phone is the ultimate mixed tape. Yes who love of music still buy albums so like my siblings are big big music heads and they will buy out feel like one or two songs from artists. They will buy albums. If there's an artist they like they'll they'll buy the album song on heard so people who really love Music Nick so by Alba's but people like me who you know I like music. I listened to it all the time but I am not someone who you know spends a lot of time seeking out new music and people like me. We don't really listen to albums. We listened to songs but beyond say I with her self titled Album her video album <unk> made a music video for everyone called beyond I with that and then way more with lemonade really put out these albums where she was like you. You can listen to this with a couple of songs but I didn't really make this for singles. I made this as an experience and that's why I think it was so smart of her to integrate video because that is the only way we're going to get the full album is by watching a video. That's just how I mean. I think doc really encouraged people to consume that culture and so I think that she I would not be surprised if for most casual music listeners the most recent album they bought was lemonade and the other thing like other really smart thing which you didn't put it on spotify modify and that's how we all get our music so we all had to buy the album because you weren't going to get the songs if you did buy the album yeah. That's really interesting because to me one of the things I love about. I really good albums as they all forty five minutes typically <hes> off music that does have a flow and it doesn't it doesn't have to be a concept album <hes> on Goto the round of bad comes does that solve them in the seventeenth but it's something that fits together and it makes sense the whole now as you say you can you can take you can take pieces out of it but you know it might be bad analogy but can you imagine having a choice to turn around and says well yeah you can go and see the new star is born or you can just tap this four minute clip. which is the best bit? It's like it doesn't it doesn't well ah you asking about high FIS. This is where I get nerdy because I said about forty five minutes. The the reason most albums of foot five minutes is 'cause they were released on vinyl in. You couldn't get more than forty five minutes onto the the thing the other thing as we all know we all know that albums typically start with the loud track so you know American idiot starts the reason as the groups on the vinyl bigger at the start. Oh you idea you just you listen to most albums for the final generation and the last track on I will be a quiet song because the groups small. I do actually think from an autistic view that says okay so you you're building this beautiful and the other thing is the C. D. because it allowed people to produce eighteen minutes of music. A lot of bands started doing that. I don't think then there's not a great double albums. If you think about it you know eighty minutes is a lot to produce yeah. That's a lot of music I would argue that even Bruce fell into the trap with the rising that the rising is three tracks too long. Yes oh I'm going to disagree with you there but I I think we would disagree on which are the tracks that need to go away. Necessarily that would be that's a whole series of poker but <hes> so I I agree about lemonade. I mean the rethink that I guess registered with me. Was I remember when it came out. Just this is fantastic and I read this article. Were I originally recoiled and dental you know while that's absolutely right. Cause basically what it said was. It certainly wasn't written for people like May Have Mij- and actually was written wasn't Britain for all with an IT's. It's it's very it's not very it's it's. It's what's the right word. It's not exclusionary right but it is in for black. Women and I think that that is so so I think it's amazing beyond say wrote that album I think it is you know I I love the album. I love lemonade by Canton. I it doesn't mean the same thing to me as it would mean to a black woman because it's not my lived experience. I and I think that that's one wonderful because not only is it for a specific group of people who doesn't always get things need for them but it allows me to listen to it. It's very excess well. I don't know if accessible the right word it's it's not inaccessible. You know like there's some things where I'm like. Oh I don't really understand that cultural reference like I think that went over my head like becky with the good hair. I didn't really know what that meant but I I was like I felt like I could would watch and I could listen and then if I wanted to learn and so I got to learn more about experience I haven't lived through music which I think is what great art should do an if if I go back to something like what's going on by Marvin Gaye. That's I mean I was when I came out. I was full teen fifteen so you know listening to that was a real education to me now. Living Not far from from temple there was connections around in the city and stuff but it clearly came from a different world but it brought my horizons and I think that's one of the many things that could music does yeah. We just had this discussion last night. I I played poker with some buddies of mine. We do that about once a month and we were talking about spike Lee films for some reason we had gotten to that. We were asking <hes> what are the guys was. In Africa is an African American. They asked Bryce well. You know what Spike Lee films would you rank and we're going through him and he and when he got to school days I said when I watched that film for the first time I was amazed at the color awesome and the idea that there is a prejudice or bias among the African American community had no idea <hes> so similar to that sometimes songs will go way. I've never thought thought of it that way and I also apologize for <hes>. Some of my fellow old white guys are like well. Why is it got to be about? Someone's this. I'm like okay. Ninety nine percents of stuff <unk> produced is from a White Guy's perspective. It's yeah I have some other perspectives is essential in my absolute favorite Harvey Fierstein quote is he was like I hate when people tell me that my work is universal work. They'll be like Oh. Your work isn't really gay. It's universal. We like no up yours. It's gay if you WANNA take it and translate it for your own life. That's fine but finally I don't have to do the translating anymore and that's what I love about an album like lemonade like it's not really universal. It's four black women but I can still take it and translate it and apply it to my own life and in fact that's what black doc women have been having to do with white women music for a very long time so it's fine that I can do it the other way and translate it to my life but it wasn't made for me and that's okay well. That's a great point didn't mean to speak over you but <hes> if if you guys will check and I I don't think I'm fast enough to give you the episode number but Bella was on the show earlier and she talked about <hes> Bruce Springsteen Gaya songs and we had a wonderful discussion about that that <hes> she was you know Bella was explaining to and you know that she wanted to see things that represent her in culture and so in some of Vici by had no doubt that that was absolutely about a gay perspective and other she changed bright. Yeah like some of them are something you're like okay well if you're not thinking this is about a man who loves a man. Then you're just wrong and some of it's like no I know that's not what this song is about but it is to me Oh so I didn't know you didn't episode so I have to go buy into that off. The top of your head will list is the streets of Philadelphia which is an obvious backstreets which I mean come anyone who's like no. It's about a girl no. It's not listening to lyrics not can I can. I put something out yeah the light it's soft inspected some military became placed on. I had that discussion a ninety well yet nineteen seventy six when I was a colored around and said it's a gay song and I'm Mike Derby silly <hes>. What are you suggesting? <hes> rapidly decided that she was completely right but you know what that's and this is sad reflection station in times. That's the first time anybody else's ever said that. I'm going to listen to the episode and I think this I what else is in that can you yes I <unk> out this heartland it which he has a line that says just one kiss from you my brother and so like okay come on. That's feels pretty obvious and then there are I think bobby gene is about a boy who's really in love with a lesbian <hes> beads about well. I know it's about like his friendship with C._D.. But in my head it's about a boy who's in love with a lesbian. I think that pink hats lack is actually there's a very funny thing. Allow the the young people I know in the Internet who love Bruce Springsteen. We all agree that Pink Cadillac is gay but we all have different interpretations of why it is so I'm I may take. I may check out because I'm pretty sure the I go a seven inch vinyl single but he's been cut it was like the shape of a Cadillac so I'm pretty sure I've still got oh that's and then Rosalita obviously has he says closets are for hanger which come on and then <hes> oh I think Frankie fell in love is also got a lesbian but it's my opinion I could see that I will. I will go back and listen to the episode so that's fantastic yeah yeah. It's a wonderful episode and as always Bella share so much about herself in a beautiful way so yes I urge everyone. If you have not heard it go back in here and you know go back in here it again. That would be fun. Well and that's that's the other thing with lemonade is it's about a relationship. It's about a heterosexual relationship and it's about infidelity and that's not something I can you know I haven't really been in a real heterosexual relationships but I still enjoy enjoy the album because I can translate it for my own life and that's that's why I also understand. I don't it's not you know why she read it just for black women. It's like well. She wrote it for a lot of people you're doing translating wherever you know it or not and so you just practice at it you get better well again you imagine if people applied that rule to cinema they wouldn't go to see very many films because they'd have to it would have to be about them and their experiences and look like movie stars uh-huh. I'm sure I did once on a good thing not true. There are probably some people who look like <hes> Lyle Lovett who I saw this is great they hotel. I stayed in before the Austin Festival him and his wife and the two twins were in having been sent next to me. You know well the thing as you know it's law Lubbock because there is a very distinctive looking man but <hes> yeah one of the reasons why I love the John Candy Movie. Only the lonely is <hes>. The fat guy gets to fall in love with ally sheedy and has Marino Harrah's is mom so <hes> I just love that movie also because it's it's a true romantic comedy and as wonderful as John Candy can be crazy. I it was nice seeing him in just a very sweet roll. Yes absolutely all right. Yeah people see themselves. Yes so I understand you may have bone selections for us. I do have bonus election so I did a tee time with Terry with all of my you know the songs I thought really represented by generation songs that you could take to other twenty five twenty six year olds. Maybe like okay like I may have picked something but that's a good list for her but I wanted to also pick songs from musicals for each decade of my life to do by other the other side of my personality and reflect more of what I was actually listening opening tale when I was you know seven and thirteen and twenty four see so this is why Bella is doing so well in law school. She's going for extra credit. She's she's going extra. Extra did a whole I did a whole bracket for hottest Supreme Court justices and a bunch of my law school friends but like why are you spending so much time doing this so you have law school homework and I was like it's important to have other hobbies guys do you a lot of things cast a wide net so my my musical list of the first musical I ever saw God bless my parents who they you know I went to New York to visit my family who lives here. My mother took me to punitive east on Broadway way so my first song would probably be <hes> Taylor time that one union the be Sung that would probably be my first son <music>. Hey less oldest time. It can be a-league even somebody Ben unexpected the little small to say the least both a little scared not a one K B t and the beast just the search has been just a shoe as some we'll let us hold <hes> and then I was so obsessed with wicked as a kid I I I've seen wicked. I think five times I thought once on Broadway but it came to my hometown and my parents had gotten divorced so they each bought me a ticket to wicked without consulting the other E._A.. From tested it was crazy and you happen to catch the <hes> they just did a anniversary special. Catch the anniversary special. I loved it we linen. I watched it together. We loved it. We've only seen the you know the musical once just fell in love with the songs all over again and of course me being a <hes> internal optimist. I'm staring at <hes>. The two leads Kristen Dell like see they really like each other. They may have a problem really yes but you know that's just because you worked together all the time yeah. No they really like each other you can you can tell but also how good was Arianna Guerande oh she was amazing <music> incredible. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA have to watch this. Kid is and the crown is field with <hes> all kinds of young and old and they're all singing along. I mean just tell how much this the music of wicked is meant to them. Yeah it was it was so it's a really really sweet halloween. Special ED was adorable. I love that but I was. I was a so deeply obsessed with wicked. I dressed up for Halloween like painted myself green. I was in it to win it so I'd have to pick defying gravity because that is I think that's still might be one of my favorite songs from a musical ever of and I just I I love it so much I can't wanted something has changed within me. Something is not the say I'm through with playing by the rules <music>. Someone else's too late for second. Yes she late you go back to its tie. Trust my instincts close. My eyes and Jio can pull me thank you. You're having a brand accepting limbs. Someone says there's some things I cannot change to been losing lobby the musicals I mean was it as a child you got into it and it just you've always let them yeah. I don't really know what a originally I saw I saw eating to when I was young. My My GRANDPA actually made higher. Mom's side of the family is stagehands so my grandpa was in the first ever again. <hes> he works on Broadway. He works on the Carol Burnett show he was on the Ed Sullivan show. When the Beatles performed you're joking clone stage head on the Ed Sullivan Show when the Beatles performed and the way the family story goes is the Beatles were very impressed with his stagehand abilities and invited him to come on tour that he was like why don't you come and be like can station on our tour and my grandpa turned them down for two reasons one because you know he didn't want to be away from his family? He was a family man and two because he thought they would be a flash in the PAN. He didn't think they'd be a big success. You see the I think. The instantly is as a book isn't it my my grandfather said the Beatles. That's just stuff you go. You know you that's fantastic yeah so he was a stagehand and he'd been theater sage TVs H he took us all of the Lion Lion King when I was young I remember him like pointing out like look at how the stairs arising look how they're bringing the set on and I just I don't know the magic at the theater really swept me off of. I'm a sucker for you know really really good voices and musical theater has the voices of all all lyrics are really important to me is another thing I I can't really do music without lyrics where I can't understand the lyrics so musical theater is great for that. <hes> and you know it's just it's really good music. I The reason Prescott is the my hi <hes> my dad used to sing and do the clubs and stuff but his his passion was. I guess what was called musical comedy then so sad specific Oklahoma and all of that so. That's that's what I was brought up on. I think the last musical U._N._C. was it was less Christmas. <hes> we were back in Scotland from Seattle and we took our two nieces who are well then were eleven fourteen. <hes> we went to see Aladdin we we went to see where tickets on the third row but I spent about seventy percent of the show just watching their faces because the super cool so you know teenagers twenty but they were just mesmerized. It's just it's and to be in the room. Wet like there's nothing like life theater and it's happening it's magical and so I got very Mary into musical theatre. <hes> not even through wicked. Actually it was through fiddler on the roof. My mother took one of my siblings to go see fiddler on the roof and they brought back the the soundtrack and I just really really loved and then I was just like okay. I have to listen to more musicals and you know so by the time it was like eleven. I was just obsessed with them. <hes> and wicked was the main one and actually part of the reason I wanted to come to New York. It was because I really love Broadway so when I was looking at colleges you know the big drought college I ended up going to is because in New York City I could get discounted probably tickets and so you know I also got a ton of money and financial aid but I came to the city city for college and in this will segue into my third song but it's it's a story I liked telling so in my first year my roommate who's now best friend <hes> was like Oh. Have you seen this video of the guy who wrote in the heights doing a rap about Alexander Hamilton. I know that sounds fascinating. We watched it and we're like so good. It's like yeah I've been waiting for the album at this point. It's twenty eleven like I've been waiting for the album for two years. It hasn't come out and I was like how weird so you know we go about our life than <hes> in twenty two thousand thirteen twenty thirteen. I'm on twitter and I see Lin Manuel. The Guy who wrote Hamilton he tweets out like doing a special Hamilton related thing up at the more Humam Shan like comfort with free now like elise. We have to go like yes. We do have to go to get on the train. We go town to go to the more mansion lydman wells right there. He does three songs from health and he does <hes>. We didn't know it was Hamilton that he does three songs. They ended up being dear theodose Asia wait for it and my shot and my child was so good. I busted out of my seat. I was so high <hes> then we went over after we were like Oh you know we're huge fans. We we didn't actually go to Columbia but one of the guys we were with didn't like going to Colombia and he's like Oh my God Hamilton's Alma Mater. Let's take a pic so he took a pack and we go back home and then we see that Hamilton is going to be at the public and I was like we gotta get tickets and so we got tickets to the original cash at the public ask and so my third song would be shot because it is just I mean I love that song so much thrown away shots away shot. No one country intriguing young scrappy scholarship to King's College Ragtag Amazing astonish brings the no Polish heard with that but reword drop knowledge the Tom Assign a piece of coal trying to reach our speech unimpeachable nineteen month so the New York City streets get cold damage Osborne to manage to brandish these it's famished runs independently. Bring it almost endlessly essentially tax US relentlessly in George Brown was a spending spree. Dennis set to send it's free to the wilby reputation in this century and to me says don't be socked when history poke mentions pay down my life. It sets US free weight shot. I mean do not miss an amazing experience. I think Hamilton's the best thing in the musical theater I've seen while I think say since Les Miserables on my finally agree I think it's going to revitalize be the Jonah of musical. I'm degree interested to see what not just he does after Hamilton but where else genre of musical goes <hes>. I think it's been very interesting. I've seen a lot more young kids now getting into musicals than I ever saw before and I think that's partially because of Hamilton but I also think <hes> are you all familiar with rent the musical yes so rent like totally. This is Mike here anyway I think Brent totally changed the musical a gay people permission to use like guitars ars in a little more hard rock and you know making something that was a little more accessible instead of your traditional musical and I think Hamilton is going to do the same thing but I also think because the creator of rent you know he died before that musical became a hit. He never wrote anything else because he passed away really on so I'm very interested to see what Lin Manuel does your host Hamilton to see how he continues to revolutionize or play with the types of musical. He's already created is an interesting connection between what you took them out the back to be on save. It says I think Les Miz broke down a lot of barriers musically and staging and Hamilton even more because you you go blessing for Andrew Lloyd Webber has a lot to answer for high. I mean it's great formulaic stuff and Saturday afternoon in London. It's nice to go to but does not allied. I don't think there's a lot of great quality in there. was you know if you if you think about it as a full as a format there are no restrictions you've just got two and a half hours and the stage and music the main majority of the dialogue comes through song. That's all you really you have to do and what people do with that is very interesting so great choices choices choices so any final thoughts Terry I just I love the left-field thinking that says I'm. I'm in my twenties so I only get three songs so I'll find a way to six. I love that I think you'll do fine in your finals that I love field thinking as much but you know if you can make the argument that's all that counts in absolutely naked argument simply <hes> Bella. How about you any final thoughts you want to share with us <hes>? I think this is such a fun format. I think it's very interesting when you have fewer thongs and I think it's very interesting to go with you know through so many different ways you can pick songs. I could've been given I could he give myself a ton of different parameters in so many different types of songs. I think it's a very unique format. I do too and that's why Terry always is very kind about saying. Just he seemed excited but I was excited about the concept. I and I just think it's a wonderful parameters that makes for a wonderful discussion about everything I mean we've gone through a wide range of stories here <hes> all because of the songs you pick so thank you so much for joining joining us in our have aged yeah all right so if you want to be on the podcast in share your song choices we are always looking for guests. You can reach us at settling Brusett. Gi Mel Dot Com we are on facebook set lesson bruce and we earn twitter <hes> at set listening Bruce Terry if they want to reach you how can they <hes> on twitter at Terry scrabble on <hes> email is Teri as am I hope dot com and we are hoping in two thousand nineteen that Terry will continue this occasionally with me guest starring but hopefully <hes> because of time zones he he might be able to get some <hes> guest there <hes> and kind of go solo which I I'm looking forward to hearing very much me too me too and Yeah Bella. How about you you can find me on twitter at Bala Pori last him Peo- are and you can find my blog at west wing West Wing Dot Com? I talk about all things politics and sometimes do fun. Brackets like hot a Supreme Court justices hottest the Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg by the way of course I was pulling for Sandra. I was really bad dry and I thought she get the sympathy vote but no people with Ruth. I don't know if you saw the picture her <hes> Brad Meltzer just posted <hes> a little girl showing up at a Sonya sewer a signing and she brought his book. I am Sonia and Ardinger China. Yeah I love sunset of my are so much. We're trying to bring her to Caidos L. to like speak but we'll see yeah. That's the latest book from his. I am ordinary people change. The world series is about her growing up so it's absolutely wonderful yeah well. Thank you Bella. Thank you Terry. Thank you listeners. We're going to end with. I'm through accepting limits because someone says there so some things that I cannot change but till I try. I'll never know we all should remember that. Thank you listeners. We'll talk to you soon and there we go. It's the end of music talks week. Onset listening Bruce Hope you've enjoyed these new episodes and the remastered reissues of the discussions with a couple of <hes> our guests <hes> thank you terry sorry for letting me be a small part of the creative process of this wonderful idea. I know music talks is going to be a wonderful success and a great podcast and I look forward to hearing episodes in the future her and I hope you will continue to join me every once in a while and set less than Bruce so we can talk if you want to find music talks. The easiest way is to go to your favorite podcasts player do a search for music talks Terry Smith. 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Jerry Wins Big And Delivers An Action-Packed Update

Boomer & Gio

11:11 min | Last month

Jerry Wins Big And Delivers An Action-Packed Update

"Jerry recco back this morning he's got sports. That's Good Morning Jerry what's happening over there? Well, Good Morning to you gentlemen how are you? You had a game last night with the mets that if you didn't turn it on early, the really not much to see, and if you did turn it on early, you saw a lot of this and that's where the payoff pitch swing on a drive in the air to laugh pretty deep back goes McNeil onto the track at the wally jumps it's gone. You Bet, Cabrera still got some pop. He pulled one over the left field wall behind the three fifty, eight mark into the eminem sweet seats four Cabrera has second home run of the year. The nationals lead one to nothing is how we rose. Hi, I'm holly rose. Hi. I'm Howie rose and he was calling a lot of highlights for the nationals last night who walloped them at sixteen four struggle Cabrera had himself a night four for four. Once. Twice instead, he also doubled drove in five runs. He was pretty good trade turner pretty good. He homered drove in three one Soto three hits including a home run drove in three and an easy win for Washington Stephen Matt's terrible eight runs eight hits three home runs allowed four and a third innings. Not much there. He says, the nets were pretty much on everything he threw it seems like they're seeing me really well. I feel like I had good stuff today and You know normally when I feel this good. I'm able to locate the ball and stuff and they were just getting If I missed by a couple inches here and they're they're getting me and given the state of the rotation right now, and where the team is, he knows this is not what needs to be done. GotTa get with Hefner and make some adjustments here because two games like this is unacceptable. Now, it's just one of my team position like that. The third fourth innings just unacceptable. So. got got a look at some stuff and realize redress some things. So I'm not really sure right now I'm GonNa go look at it. Now never gave a chance last night here was his manager Louis Row. Haas. What were his thoughts on why he struggled away he did. He stinks. Look. Good Villa was there. Look. Really good in the first inning I thought from my angle is home slowdown in a few of the secondary pitches which you know the flea Causes a hitter. To get a better read that is something soft that's common. So I saw time you know who else they say has really good stuff. Edwin. Beautiful really. Exactly. Now, that was the baseball game last night prior to we found out for Marcus stroman about him opting out. Here was stroman on why he made this decision does ended up sitting with my family and kind of assessing all the pump possibilities in realizing that is just too many uncertainties too many unknowns right now. to go out there and just putting the health for my family and myself. First and foremost, and now the one thing he made very clear. This is not because the mets have been lackadaisical with their protocols. He says quite the opposite. I truly believe that the mets have done the best job. Handling, all the protocols at any team in the big leagues actually believed that wins decided that there's too many outside factors to to really go out there. And risk. All right. So now you're Brodie van wagon. What exactly do you do? Well, if you listen to the guy, it's sure sounds like he's got a plan ready to go. We'll take take inventory. So to speak will will work with the pitching coaches will we'll have a sit down but you know we we were living survivor marcus such a big part of who we are both in terms of not only his talent, but also his energy. Would would we like to have markets? Yes. Do Do we have marcus? No. So we'll take inventory now the organization. All right. Let's see. Sake pitcher check another sucky pitcher check another tells pitcher check some guy never heard of check. Okay. So the inventory sucks too. So we're going to be really bad and Steve Cohen's going to buy the team and fire me within fifteen seconds. So who cares, let's go to starbucks Could be right. You might be right. Don't know You Got Rick Forsillo tonight taking on it Max Sherzer and you got the Yankees and braves Jordan Montgomery Posing Tuckey Tucson. We'll have that on the fan with coverage starting at six, twenty five. Also, of note, last night, the padres beat the dodgers to one and Mike Trout continues to rake his the angels knock off the as and snap that nine game winning streak. Here's the next pitch, and that one is hit high in its hit deep out in left field and it is. My drought is done it again tonight, Chew Over Game Forum and the angels are back on top ten to nine. It's Terry Smith which row angels radio I that's the first time I've heard that he's maybe he's been saying that for years I've never heard trout of here. Spike in this. No I'm not a big fan of puns like that I. Think it's John. Sterling on every day. What are we talking about? We love him. But as he, he's a rhyming guy he is. He's so much of a like. Give me a pun that he has. A Pun I don't know to me. It's all Hokey and fun who cares it's trout here. No. Good. All right I I suppose I don't know it's different with sterling I'm used to it. You know if I was in a different market and I heard John Sterling I probably think he was was clownish but because I grew up listening to him and it was funny and entertaining to me, it's acceptable of your somebody else do it I feel like it's cheesy I don't know how to explain all right fair enough I get it I understand marriage beat the rangers tended to a Grand Slam for Kyle seager and you're the astro's beat the giants six to four. Indians pitcher Mike Clemenger will not make scheduled start versus the white sox tonight because we found out, he went out with Zach Police Act over the weekend Moron ESPN is reporting that Major League Baseball has had preliminary discussions about holding its postseason in a bubble type of format. Again, they're just discussions but they from the from the article they're seeing how well the NBA Nhl are handling things and clearly very intriguing an option. If in fact, they ever make that happen the big ten in the pack twelve as of like two o'clock yesterday afternoon all indications were. Zo this morning nothing's official yet but we are expecting some sort of announcement sometime today from those conferences you've got people The Detroit free press is basically saying that will be announced today that the big ten is going to cancel their season. What's I'm saying I mean that that's what the report was yesterday and everybody was running with it like it was official but then it came out the vote has been taken yet. They'll make the announcement today. So we'll see what happens. You've got the head coach Nebraska saying we're playing. We don't know who we don't know where. You got him. You Got Jim. Harbaugh let's play. You got certain players saying tweeting. Let's play. So I. Got, so. So here here's like a confluence of issues. You have all these players that WANNA play you have. You know teachers who don't WanNa. Teach you have professors who don't want to go to classes you have presidents that are worried about. Getting sued inhering somebody die on their campuses. You have football players who wanNA play you have some you know obviously some conferences that have already canceled I mean we're all over the place. Yeah. Because once is saying yesterday and have been saying for five months one size does not fit all you know and it really is a it's a local thing. It really is a local thing and I I think you're GonNa have schools that really like when you have Michigan has one, hundred, eighty, million dollar budget for their sports programs, and almost all of that budget is paid for by the football program right they have to play right? If they don't play, they can't really do any other sports. Hall. That Dan that's something that has never really talked about enough I agree everybody talks our football is king football players and the coaches and get paid so much and it's just the biggest thing on campus. Well, yeah. Of course, it is because it funds everything else for crying out loud Lou, the dollars at a generates and the interest that generates. So I don't know it seems like this eleventh hour. Plea is not going to be enough from what we heard yesterday but I don't know I talked about we spent I don't know how long on it yesterday, there is a way I believe to make your own bubble on these campuses because football is so regimented and you know Jim Harbaugh made this point Trevor Lawrence made this point. If you check in on these guys tell them, they can't go anywhere keep them in the dorms keep them together all the time even on the road trips I mean there is a way to be very, very smart about this and still play football and I don't think that's being totally naive when I say that. The amazing thing is that the players WanNa play you know they're you know they're not going to be like Marcus stroman and back they there's a whole group of players that want to go out there and play, and we're seeing that in professional sports as well by the way. The bubble situation in the NBA, in the NHL and major league soccer and the WNBA is working extremely well and I do and I do agree that you should be able to keep your players in a bubble in college. The question is is, what do they do when they escape the bubble white a couple of Cleveland Indians did right that's the problem. A couple of other things here Eddie skip the NBA sound I'll just get to the NHL but I'll tell you the Lakers beat the nuggets last night one, twenty, four, one, twenty-one, go ahead three from a Kyle Kuzma late, the heat over the Pacers. One fourteen ninety, two No Janas Kyle Larry Sergey Boxer Kyle van. Fleet Raptors beat the bucks one fourteen one oh six nets and magic today we will have the free on the fan this afternoon and I'll see here's the sounds boomer I'll let your ears enjoy this. Thank you from the Great Gary Bettman. The first selection and the twenty twenty NHL draft belongs to the New York Rangers. Alex love. Is GonNa Be Yours. Joie. Off Ron Yeah Mirage. He's yours and you should be very excited about he's telling I was telling L. during the warm up show we do between five and six every morning. Cornhole last night there was quite the buzz. Arranger Buzz was starring I'm telling you and ranger fan fired up fuck re blah. It doesn't really roll off the tongue like Jordan and pippen right lower front year and Cocco. More say Rats Mercy Mercy Mars. Most C.. Say Mercy. That's awesome. Jaguars defensive in Yongin Gakugei who still is not signed his exclusive franchise tag tender. Apparently has fired his agent. He is not reported at training camps yet in the Patriots grew you do at Lamar Miller they go. All right. Thank you. Jerry.

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Mason and Ireland (HR 2)

Mason & Ireland

41:39 min | 1 year ago

Mason and Ireland (HR 2)

"I'd E._S._P._N.. L._A. Mason in Ireland what is up last night <hes> the angels beat the dodgers. Here's the way the game ended next. Pet cow is going to fire to the plate bellinger hitting home with rose in time and he throws another runner out at home plate Terry Smith and Calhoun at a home run also yeah yeah and we're trying to reach seem monson right now from pro football focus. Do you subscribe to pro football focus. No it's awesome wait a minute is that is that Mike Florio. No No. That's football talk. Okay pro football. Focus is a subscription site where <unk> after every single game they give a rating to every single player based on their effectiveness so for example last year the right side of the Rams Offense Actually Austin Blyth <hes> John Sullivan were getting wiped wiped out in the way I knew that was the pro football focus grades which were terrible for those guys as opposed to like Andrew Whitworth on the other side of the line <hes> so pro football focus is an incredibly useful site. It's expensive I subscribed up to it but but it's completely worth it and we're supposed to be talking to pro. Football Focus Lean analysts Sam Monson and you know what happens when somebody stiffs John ways that he wasn't he's not even supposed let's come on till one o'clock. Harry is talking about it's twelve fifty nine listening to Caspian Los Angeles. That was a low blow cheap shot by saying you know what happens when somebody stiffs <hes> they go on the list they go on the list but Sam Monson is now on the Air Areso the lead analyst for profile focus. Thank you Sam we're coming on and I'd like to point out that you're a minute early so thank you for that too bank. You exactly I wasn't I wouldn't do that to you. Guys you know that is the rule on Mason and Ireland because I hope to have you back but if you stiff us then you go on the list the banned list so I'm glad that you survive this first hurdle day. That's entirely fair. Ignore that Sam now let me let me get to this though what U._S._A.. Today today came out and said the rams teams are likely candidate to do at Super Bowl hangover. Take a step back all agree that the rams have a tough early schedule. You gotta go back East a few times but when I look at the N._F._C. West. I don't think that there's another team that can win it other the rams. Where do you handicap the rams in this upcoming season? Yeah I think you're right. I think they are in a favorable division. We've got you know the seahawks aren't the powerhouse they used to be. <hes> the forty niners you're still have their their share question marks and the cardinals. I think they'll be a lot better than they were a year ago but again you know first year under a new regime. There's only so high they can climb so the division should be there to take and then it's just a case of how good they are compared with the rest of the conference and the N._F._l.. Generally I think though that this is a really important year for this team and for the scheme you know Sean mcvay system. It's fantastic. It's taken the League by storm. It's spawned the whole you know a legion of disciple coaches that have taken it elsewhere but I think we started to see what happens when teams start to take away plan a team start to figure out how to defend the system and force them mm-hmm do something that they don't necessarily want to do and when team started to do that last year plan B. didn't look all that good so I think this is a big season or offseason for this system to show that it's evolved and they can take the next step forward Gordon and still be really effective because we've seen the same thing happen. You know two different offenses in the past before systems that have taken the League by storm. They've been fantastic for a couple of seasons then N._F._o.. Defense started to figure out how to slow it down and in West you can evolve unless you can take it to a new level things start to fall apart. You know to to that point last year. They they hit a rough spot in the schedule late where Matt Patricia in the Lions the bears and of course the Patriots in the Super Bowl seemed to solve to some degree the rams offense is that kind of what you're talking about yeah exactly I think a few team started to to work out how to slow this down a force them to do things that they didn't didn't necessarily want to do and when they did that that the results an answer didn't look that spectacular so I think you know that there's a lot of fundamentals in this and that will still work. There's you know the bunch formations the motion. There's a lot of things that put stress on defense automatically and obviously getting a guy like Cooper Cup back. We'll help hugely but I think this is a big season to show that there's an evolution to the scheme. We are talking to Sam Monson. WHO's the lead analyst for Pro Football Focus Sam? There's another other team in Los Angeles that <hes> that that it has a good unaware of that well. The chargers actually had a great season. They got a big winning Kansas City late then they ran into New England and got Bella checked. What's your forecast for the chargers? There's in the upcoming year yeah again. The chargers are another team that there's a ton of talent but it seems like every single year we're talking about this team being undone by their offensive line and I think we're looking at the same thing again. We've really got one average to above average offensive lineman on this unit and it's you know left Tackle Russell Kun so at least their best players in the right place although let me let me let me jump in on that Sam Ian Rapoport just tweeted that cocoon who had a health issue this spring will start training camp on the non football illness list so I don't know how serious it is but they may have an issue there but go ahead. I just wanted to jump in at the very minimum their best offensive line. I are the best offensive Lineman as dealing with his own issues but outside of that that offensive line again on paper does not look good. We've got four out of five physicians being a significant question Mark <hes> a guy we really liked in in college. <hes> forest ars lamp still hasn't even seen the feel for them and we're looking at this sort of sequence of seasons where Philip rivers and a group of really impressive looking pass catchers now are are likely to be undone by the fact that the offensive line is going to be a problem album GonNa put rivers under too much pressure. You know a lot of the Times the team can be good enough to overcome that most of the time but when you get to the postseason you run up against some of these better defenses better teams and teams with more time to scheme up against. Against you that's when the offensive line becomes a real issue and that's when he comes back to haunt them semi pro football focus is with us so if you look at the entire league just in terms of talent and the way you grade it out who are the most most talented teams in the League as an and what sort of a a rank order. I think it's really hard to look beyond the Philadelphia Eagles at the moment I think they've they've loaded up kind of in the same way they did when they went on their super bowl. They're extremely strong in both the trenches they're offensive. Line was our number one ranked unit in the N._F._l.. Heading into the season their defensive front again is the number one ranked pass rushing unit and the N._F._l.. Guys that were starting for both the old line and D line during their super bowl run. They're both back there. Now is backups in terms of <hes> Stephan with new ski on the line. <hes> and <hes> players name is completely escaping me on the edge for them on the Defensive Line Vinny McCurry <hes> so they've got incredible strength on the lines their only real question mark is have that secondary is GonNa play but there's a lot of talent there and young talent that's kind of flashed the ability <hes> their only real question. Mark is how well Carson Wentz is gonNA play on the offensive side of the ball will. He Be Kinda somewhere towards that M._v._p.. Caliber level that he was at his best or will he be a little bit closer to the pack. <hes> I think that Dallas Cowboys in the same division also have a really loaded roster again and they're they have a question mark just how well Dak Prescott Compla- but sort of man-to-man across that fifty three man roster the really aren't that many holes in that team we're talking to Sam Monson who is from pro football focus okay Sam. I'm a Raider Fan. I tried to quit them. When they traded? Khalil Mack became a raider fan again. He was Iran's Fan last year. Now is raiders. I take it off to a bad start. You'll flip to the rams that you know I hated the the Khalil Mack trade more than any trade I've ever hated. I mean it was like the worst I still think it was really stupid but but they're going to be on hard knocks so I'm taking them back. What as a Raider Fan should be my realistic expectation of how good they can be? What's what's reasonable? I think a reasonable expectation for this team is that they are you know average at best <hes> eight I think eight and they would be an achievement for this team team. Honestly I think they're looking more like a sort of six seven win kind of team. They put everything in this draft class. This is going to be a franchise defining draft for the raiders lose it as the start of this new regime I it may well be a franchise defining draft in the wrong direction for we weren't in love with a lot of the players they took or at least not in love with the impact those players can have you know a guy like Josh Josh Jacobs with a fantastic running back with the more data and the more learning we do about the running back position. It just doesn't move the needle in terms of making you better <hes> I think the same thing is true with safety like Jonathan Abram. You know a strong safety as good as he is is. He's not going to be the reason that defense gets an awful lot better they. They need to get stronger at the cornerback position which they didn't really do a whole lot to address. They need to get stronger and pass rush and Cleveland. Farrell is a good player not necessarily a great pass rusher which is what they need it so I think there's they brought in a lot of players that are good players on just not sure they're the ones that are going to move the needle in terms of actually helping them to win games because they're not in the most valuable impactful position. I want to circle back around onto my team the rams <hes> what is the what's the weakness of the rams as as you look at this team. What is what's the soft spot yeah? I think this this team is actually in pretty good shape as well they we're by far the highest grade team in the N._F._l.. Last season with our grades the offensive line is a bit more of a question mark this year than it was a year ago you know they've lost a couple of players that the ones that are in now in the middle in particular are more unknown quantities. He's than than they were <hes>. They're sort of guard Santer. Guard combination is a little bit more of a question mark. I'm not saying it's going to be bad but we don't know that it's going to be as good as it was a year ago but outside of that they should be a good team that they're pretty strong across across the board. They're so good front with Aaron Donald in the middle that they don't need an incredible amount of edge rushing talents <hes> edge rusher is definitely a weakness for them but I don't know <hes> had. I don't know how many they need because Aaron Donald gets more pressure than any edge rusher in the N._F._l.. All by himself so they don't need a you know a true dominant edge rusher the way some of these other teams do because it just isn't their primary source of Hans Rush. Okay Sam last thing for you. <hes> we talked about three teams. We talked about the rams the chargers <hes> and <hes> the raiders <hes> let's talk about the quarterbacks and how they great out so we talked about Jared Goff Fill rivers <hes> and Derek Carr Yeah I mean I think rivers is the best quarterback Oh three <hes> but he has more problems around him when we talked about that offensive line being a real issue. He's obviously got the experience edge. He's got. I think really good weapons as well there at least that the equal of any of the other teams. It's just a case of whether he'll be under too much pressure into play say that well Jared Goff took huge that Ford last season. He was sort of borderline top ten quarterback for us <hes>. There's no reason he can't take another step forward but I think his development is tied to that evolution of this system that we talked about before <hes> I think he's got a chance to sort of push Philip rivers to be the best quarterback Oh those group and then Derek Carr. Isn't you know their car accident level of play he got to before he got that broken leg a few years ago a broken ankle <hes>. He's more of a conservative quarterback. He's the Hell Bank some weapons in the past when you look at guys like Amari Cooper yeah. I think this is this is I would say this might be. The last season that Derek Carr is starting. I'd say they're probably looking for another answer. After this year. I'll come on SAM. It's the start of the Antonio Brown era it is it is but we've also seen that Antonio Brown's performance really falls off a cliff when it's quarterback play at the highest level in Rothlisburger and Derek Carr I would say is a pretty significant <hes> all right Sam. Hey thank you for doing this and by the way who do you have in the Super Bowl. Did you make a super bowl prediction yet. I haven't made a super bowl prediction you now but you can change it later. If you had to do it now. Who would you pick once I can change later on my favorite ones all right? Let's go with the eagles out of the N._F._C.. I think they're just the best squad top to bottom. <hes> then anybody ever picking anybody other than the Patriots in the A._F._C. is crazy so rematch from two years ago. Okay got it yeah all right Tim. Hey thanks we'll we'll have you on again. Thanks for doing this. Thanks anytime all right all right so coming up next what happened at the Paul George Kawhi Leonard Introductory press conference which has been completed in South L._A.. What was said and who said it? That's next buster baroni coming up at one thirty fast track in less than an hour so we got lots of stuff coming up at E._S._p._N.. L._A. Question I get a lot John. What's that are you straight edge macer you Venice Mace? You know the difference right. Well really there is no straight edge mace. I have been straight edge mace for the last week except for three nights Diego for the last week my point exactly straight edge mace so is it just the weekend still no no no. It's just like whenever I feel that it it was because it was always straight edge mace during the week non straight edge over the weekend sometimes mid week. Sometimes mid sometimes Thursday's a good night that I mean it seems like a good night. Good night is any Friday which which is why it is which is coming by the way no straight edge may stirring O._C.. Week the entire week no straight edge mace well. It's good. We're all living in that house together. I tell you I need. I'm just waiting for all you guys to pass out and then I'm going home. I don't sleep so I don't have to sleep there but you guys all be passed out. I'll leave by the time I come back in the morning. You'll still be passed living in the same house now Greg you're living in the house. I will be living in the house yeah well. You have to 'cause you would have too big of a commute. It's ridiculous driving two hours there and back every day. We allowed to say where the house is. I've been told no matter of fact act <hes> the one day were doing the shows from the house. I think it's Wednesday and I was sending out the schedule for O._C.. Week and Tommy lamb our promotions director said do not disclose the location of Wednesday's show is that right I said Said Okay just you can say it is in Orange County in Orange County. All I'm allowed to say so knock on every door yeah. If you're looking for is hugh grant at the end of love actually just knock on every door Natalie here all right so Paul George and Colli Leonard were just introduced by the clippers at a press conference. Now we did not hear any of this because we were on the air but you have some now I do. Yes what are you are. Uh you walk us through this because it's super small writing it. Is I mean this is just how the system works but the first one the first one there that you have there is Paul George and he's talking about how how to get out of the Laker Shadow Lakers Lakers <hes>. We've got our own identity. We chasing something else. <hes> you know we we not looking at the battle of L._A.. <hes> you know we got bigger things in mind and bigger goals to accomplish <hes> <hes> other than you know the shadow and like none of that really means anything you know they they got to come out and perform the same way we gotta come out and perform. <hes> I think for us at the end of the day we wanna be holding that trophy and <hes> that's all that matters we'll build our legacy and we'll build our our clipper nation along the way there is no clipper nation very small yeah and Paul well. Georgia is such a disappointment to me. Why last year do you remember the right design with Dante? Remember last year we were all ready for Paul George to sign <hes> with the <hes> the Lakers the pride of Palmdale and instead return to okay see that was a disappointing night Salvador Dante last year. We Got Lebron but we did not get Paul George Winston when questions about players like this come up. I always think about something. Kobe said you have to want to play for the Lakers Yoon you there. There are certain people that like Lebron wanted to come here. Anthony Davis talked about it his presser how he wants to be here. Shack made a choice to come here. Kobe could've left as a free agent a couple of times. It is a it is a high profile high pressure yup spotlight on on you nowhere brighter job and I never gonNA begrudge a player for wanting to play in the shadows yeah for putting in another way I mean if you can't deal with spotlight of the Lakers then you probably. I believe probably a good place for you well I. I think you're going to be good. I I'm not going to begrudge the clippers. I think they did an excellent job in free agency but like I said the other day they're dynamic. Duo of Kawhi Leonard and Paul George is Great. I think the Lakers is better. I know it's just my opinion but I'll I'll put Anthony Davis on the Bron James Any two players on any roster in the league. Let's you gotTa play the Games. Let's go do you remember when Jeanie Buss said. Did this any free agent. That would be afraid to play with Kobe. Bryant is probably a loser and I'm glad they would come to the team was. She said it better than I did yeah. Here's I agree with everything. You said it better than I did when she updated it any free agent that would be afraid to play with Lebron. James is probably a loser and I'm glad they wouldn't come to the team. You guys are idiots. You're all morons. That is the best we we just like her. We wait a minute. We couldn't even find a woman to do it. We had to have Mario Mario just jumping bron James Lebron James Okay. What's are actually we'll have more coming up next? No we've buster coming up Baxter's next okay good so love we will. We'll have more later show up. Just don't go anywhere but buster on the next week a bunch of questions for one more time. I WanNa hear this any free agents agents to play with Lebron. James is probably a loser and I'm glad they would come to the team. You only losers around here you to morons for doctoring that tape. It's ridiculous all right. Let me tell you about powered for plumbing heating and air powerful professional affordable it through the arts in their name power pres- local their family owned business when you call them for service power pro offers free estimates no extra charge for nights weekends holidays. Usually I usually in route to you within forty five minutes so what makes them different well. 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All right we are counting down down to the Major League Baseball Trade deadline which is next Wednesday at one o'clock. You want to be with us every single day for the very latest as we go along. Buster only joins US right now is brought to you by REX REX real estate learn why thousands thousands are demanding more from their real estate agent and choosing REX to buy or sell a home visit rex homes dot com. That's R. E. X.. HOMES DOT COM buster. How are you my friend? Oh you know I thought that it was already my white. My head was going to explode with all the trade deadline stuff and then we had this whole situation with the red sox and rays this afternoon with a lineup discrepancy took nineteen minutes and it wasn't actually settled so my edits exploded five so we've been on the air and don't know what you're talking about. Give us the short explanation of what happened between the Red Sox Toronto and I am going to streamline this get really <hes> the raise move to pitcher from left-handed pitcher from pitcher to first to back to the mound and in so we're doing they L- they lost their D. H.. Will however the lineup was communicated the Red Sox there was confusion about which guy should hit in which part in the lineup guys nineteen minutes of meeting wow empires a phone call back to New York to sort that out in the end the Red Sox weren't satisfied with the explanation and they played the game under protest and today was the day when kids <hes> it was a kids day and so they had all these kids game and I'm sure they found that <hes> product really minutes of Umpires in managers talking talking over lineup cards so before we get to the dodgers I wanted to say <hes> I listen to your podcast this morning. You described last night as the greatest night of the season and there were some unbelievable games in buster to back up your point. I was flipping on M._l._B.. Network networking I get the package so I was flipping from cubs giants to Yankees twins to dodgers angels and all three of those games I thought could be in contention for for like one of the best games of the year. Oh one hundred percent and you know ah today in trying to structure the podcast we were like okay which one's going to be the game of the year and we wanted to pick and twins and Yankees but you're right he could have gone with other ones and <hes> those were the three big ones but then there were other walk-offs in their other games the one in extra innings it was absolutely spectacular Hitler and I I do think the right now. The giants are the most interesting team in baseball because of this impending decision we thought was a foregone conclusion two months ago about whether or not they would trade Madison Bumgarner in this whole wave of relievers so everybody in baseball is watching to see what happens with a giant. What do you think happens? I guess is there I think what are they now seventeen in three in their last twenty. I think they're going to go for it. I don't think they're gonNA train. Anybody thinks so and they're they're playing the cubs as we speak <hes> and to me if you win they have APP tomorrow off if they win today or they <hes> when they started three-game series with the padres on Friday win win either one of those games. I think it's over and I think that's the way they were beginning to lean anyway <hes> because this is bruce boats he's last year of a hall of fame career. <hes> you know Madison. Bumgarner is a legacy players are trading in to begin with is not easy and they're they're. They're absolutely playing well in a very mediocre middle of the National League and so at this moment I wouldn't be surprised if they they were to do incremental adds more so than trading away anybody going out and getting some more offensive help one of the things that we talked about earlier today and frankly have talked about for for weeks now is the dodgers need to to add bullpen help and one of the things we looked at I mean they're going to face some lefties. During the postseason they're going to face Anthony Rizzo and kosh warmer and Freddy Freeman and if they get to the world series face the Yankees Didi Gregorius and their bullpen. Maybe bryce Harper shy of lefties at this moment <hes> they really only have Julio rheos figuring into the back end of that bullpen right now is that the premium now is to go out and get a lefty. I think that in all things being equal absolutely it would be what I've been told is is that their focus is probably more narrow than any team any contender in the trade market that it's all about adding elite relievers now the two best left-handers <hes> <hes> available without a doubt are fully Vasquez who the pirates and Brad handed the Cleveland Indians but I will tell you that the perception of other G._M.'s is that dealing with those two particular teams is that they you know because they're small market teams uniformly won an arm and a leg and then two other lakes <hes> in in a trade and so <hes> and on top of that <hes> yet neal Huntington the general manager of the pirates telling reporters the other day look we fully expect to contend next year with Philippi li-pei so <hes> we wouldn't be inclined to trade him. <hes> I've spoken with <hes> executives other teams they think that the pirates if they don't take advantage of Vasquez's value right now and price them in a way to deal with the dodgers to to move him they think they're out of their reminds because his value right now in this current trade market is valued and the dodgers is so high with his great team friendly contract that he has. You're going to get a boatload in return. Someone told me and I have not confirmed this independently that the pirates asked <hes> started orgy with two of the dodgers top four prospects <hes> and if that's the case then I can understand why Andrew would blanche but I think that one way or the other they're gonna get an elite reliever and I don't know if that's handed over its Vasquez or you know you wonder net Wendy as <hes> you know who was the best closer in baseball for the mariners now pitching for the mets somebody they're gonNA get somebody buster. Explain to me. Why Brad hand would be available? The Indians aren't are right at the top of the wild card picture. <hes> Brad hand is there closer. Why would they trade him because it's a small market team? <hes> you know an add a small market G._M.. Explain this to me. You just don't have a lot of opportunities if you're you're running a team where you have a player who develops that kind of trade value. <hes> you know if you're the Indians if you're the pirates you don't have the opportunity to sign a free agent in in the fall of best free agents and so if you get a player who's values outside as you at the very least have to consider it and and I can tell you flat out the Indians have gone this trade period absolutely open minded if someone gave him the right off on hand than what they might do is okay. We'll get those prospects in return for hand will turn around and we'll make a deal for this other closer if you guys know. relievers are considered to be so volatile in their performance. They're like kickers the N._F._l.. In terms of some guys get hot and some guys get colder putters in in the P._G._A.. Watch Chapman last night buster. He couldn't find the plate late. Aroldis Chapman couldn't find the play right and if you're a small market team and you have a reliever doing great in what appears to be a lost year for the pirates you know that would seem to be an opportunity sell if the Cleveland Indians and <hes> <hes> <hes> you feel like that you have other relievers you can put in that role and still be have a chance to be successful than you seriously consider trying to cash in on the value of the of the hot stock. You know one of the things we've learned from the last I you know I like to think bullpens when championships tips but it's kind of contrary to what I've seen the last two years at the world series if you look at the Astros two years ago kind of the most valuable reliever was probably Brad. Peacock who is converted from a starting role last year Joe Kelly and Nathan any of all the we're kind of the most valuable relievers were the most valuable relievers for the red sox and and in the case of Joe Kelley almost missed the postseason roster. Do We elver value relievers one hundred percent and that's why I mean one of the questions besides the question of whether or not the dodgers can add a piece before the July thirty first trade deadline one of my questions going in the postseason about Andrew and Dave Roberts and how they run the staff. It felt like that as Dave managed that world series he she had one hand tied behind his back because you guys know on a daily basis the dodgers will say well. This guy is available. This guy's off not available and there was a day Pedro Baya's that game when Richhill <hes> you know they gave up the lead in game four. I think it was was and Pedro. Biwa bias wasn't available Walker. Beulah was never available to pitch out of the bullpen and on the other hand. Alex Cora was managing with basically his whole staff. <hes> you know because all their starters were available on a daily basis in that you'd think the dodgers probably need to take a look at that and say look if we're going to win a world series we have to be as well armed as the other guys and someone like Walker Bueller if he needed out from him to to win the world series and game five than US him buster. Only is our guest <hes> <hes> our favorite baseball guy at E._S._p._N.. Nice enough to join us every Wednesday buster. Let me ask you about a couple of situational things it the L._A.. Times reported yesterday that before the end of the month the dodgers are going to join a handful of teams. I think it's the white sox the pirates the nationals who all agreed to extend protective netting down to the foul pole to me this. This seems like a no brainer. I don't understand why it's not happening sooner. Alex for do go hit a shot down the line last night and he was horrified that he'd hurt somebody so as the angels pitcher explained to our audience why this isn't happening everywhere and why it isn't happening now situations since John that that happened like this illuminate the fact that the commissioner is not all powerful and able to dictate terms of the teams he's an employee that thirty teams <hes> and so he he can't call and say yes <hes> you know everyone and has to ensure that they're gonNA stall this by <hes> the beginning of the two thousand twenty season instead each of the twenty or thirty teams makes their own decisions and every park is different in configuration and some parks take <hes> you no longer to come up with the Nettie in in fact the white sox people they were the first ones to put up the netting and the American League they they you know they they got a lot of calls from other team saying hey. How did you guys do that so quickly in terms of coming up with a way to to stretch out the netting? I and I also think that there are a small handful of teams. Their attitude is well. That's the way it's always been in. Some fans like <hes> you know to not have the netting to separate them from fan from the players. I will tell you this. I also think part of it is is that there are some things teams that need to be dragged across the finish line on this issue by the <hes> increase liability because there's more and more teams take on this foul pole valpo netting than the teams that don't have it are more legally liable than <hes> than than their peers plus. Just it just looks awful if we know that by the way has this has been going on for years. Why are we only in this? More people began are well and I also believe I mean we've been talking about the ball and the ball going faster than the players getting the bigger in the relievers throwing harder. Let's face it. <hes> you know it's not only the players in the field who are feeling the effects of that. It's both being stands. I think that's part of it as well. Okay so bus your next week we normally talk to you. Wednesdays is at one thirty we figure next Wednesday at one thirty. You're going to be incredibly busy because the trade line trade deadline is at one o'clock. Can we get you Thursday next week awesome. Would that be would that work for you that would that would it now. I probably could make it work for Wednesday. Due next Thursday and that's a that's a that's offer. We'll call you Wednesday but we'll give you an object. You know you know what I realize our trade deadline show and I sound like Commercial Mersal before thirty on E._S._p._N.. Okay so it probably is better to we'll do we'll do Thursday post post deadline traits <hes> we'll do Thursday and do you think just gut feeling you've you. You've told us for a long time that Huntington the G._M.. Of the pirates and Friedman the G._M. of the dodgers would be strange match. They both overvalue what they have but do you think where you had to put a percentage on it percentage that they can somehow somehow figure out a way to get Vasquez out of Pittsburgh. Is it higher or lower higher lower than thirty percent lower. Okay interrupt yeah I would go lower because they both <hes> and I'd say this about them. You know that certain known bolt they they both are the. Type where they would <hes> in a game of of Texas holdem if they didn't feel right they would both pitch a pair of kings. They're both that careful in how they make deals and it's part of the reason why they both been successful and I don't think it's a great matchup in terms of how the two clubs work hey buster. Thank you very much for coming on. We appreciate we'll talk to you next week. Okay thank you buster. Thank you very much <hes> so yeah I mean I think it sounds like Philippi. Vasquez is staying shot. It sounds like will smith is not going to be in the market okay right so okay. Take Will Smith off the board. Take fully pay Vasquez off the board. Take Brad hand off the board because I think he's unlikely and like you guys keep saying those greg who were the who are the untouchable for the two catchers destined May and Gavin Lux right will Smith Dustin May and will Smith and will Smith Okay okay so let's say for the sake a discussion those four interferon has it in his own head. We're not giving them up okay. They're all going to be on our major league roster within two years. We're not giving them up and the lefties that we wanted don't become available anyway. Brad right hand doesn't move will Smith doesn't move fully Vasquez doesn't move. Can you think of any other left-handers out there that are dead now. Do we struck onto a list of righties who get left handed hitters out. I think there are a couple they Ian Kennedy is possible and that's what he's right handed. No Kennedy's lefty isn't he look that up Greg. I'm pretty sure he's right handed because he's the guy that that being Hanley Ramirez that one time right if I'm thinking of the same guy right handed yeah he's an L._A.. Kiss so then the only one I can think of is Amir Garrett and then buster said there was the guy the pitch for the mariners last year who's pitching for the mets now Edwin Diaz but he's right handed so it really the one left. You know what I didn't think of as a mere Garre Casey you know what the Philippi Vasquez thing reminded me of. Is They have a window. The pirates have a window where the need of the dodgers matches exactly what they happen to have not unlike the Lakers trading for Anthony Davis yes. The Lakers thought we have Lebron. It's a once in a lifetime opportunity to pair him with the elite big man in the N._B._A.. We're going to get this done and the Lakers gave up a lot and they got it done <hes> so this is going to be fascinating and it really is probably a game of chicken. It may come down to next Tuesday or Wednesday to see now last night. Let me just mentioned about Philippi Vasquez. He's got a buck ninety one e._R._A.. <hes> he's got sixty six strikeouts in forty two innings. He's got a one one zero eight seven one Oh eight <hes> <hes> whip and he's got fourteen strikeouts per nine okay so let me let me get this into the argument particularly you greg because you're the one that does not necessarily want to give up to prospects and you don't WanNa give lex under any condition. Even if it's for Vasquez correct what about this theory that the SA- last night Oklahoma City the dodger's AAA team is playing in Nashville and the Nashville announcer tweet it out now. This was weird circumstance because the dodgers were had fifteen to nothing after the third inning that the the Oklahoma City dodgers just completely <unk> bombed Nashville but he made this point and Greg. This is what made me think that maybe the dodgers would be willing to give up one of those four guys. He says I've never seen a minor league team. This deep the dodgers could give one or two of these guys and still be set for the future and like last night Lux homered destined may homered pitch a shutout for six innings yeah but I mean we'll Smith homered. Yeah Whoa so all these dudes played great. So what about that theory that you could take a hit to the to your top four and you'd still have the other three. I mean that goes to show what Andrew Freedman has built for this team is that they are at the top of the major league level and they're at the top of the minor league level level right. It's I mean it's amazing what they're doing but those guys are all going to be ready to go within the next year. Possibly this year and next year I it just you just still don't get rid of those guys. They're the the only time that happened. Okay so here's the argument against against the argument against is <hes> that Felipe Vasquez is under contract for next year at five million the following year for seven million. He is a dominant closer Kenley Jansen you you've buried the lead treated amazing right. It's amazing best news. How did you marry this? I was GonNa tell you in a break. The League players only cancel on T._N._T.. Indeed is cancelled. It plays only players who are literally the only one players. This is where the N._B._A.. Players actually called the game. They do it in a conversational way come. They don't call the game yeah no they. They Talk Doc. We're watching it on T._v.. We can see the game I think I'm I won't say that I was GonNa say I think play by play announcers for T._v.. Are overrated because we are watching the game except for Tom Yeah because we're watching the game we can see what's happening that is needed description of play by play that is and all players only it was the well the absolute worst you then you can say hail fellow well met two players on a sad all right that is coming up next next is fast time in an excellent mood for fast track with that News Greg. I can't believe you buried the lead there so sad excellent. I'm going to start a petition good luck with that Change Dot Org Change Dot Org to try and bring players <music> only. How many signatures do you think he gets John say that again how many how many signatures do you think he gets to save players Oh himself I think I can get five thousand? I okay you need a hundred mythical mythical mythical money on your side whatever it is. I'll bet you thousand dollars. You can't even get kit twenty five hundred twenty five hundred. I need somebody to set that up. Get Carlo who knows how to set adopt change. Dot Org just wasted absolutely get five thousand how many how much time you need to get your signature's J.. Give me till tomorrow Twenty Four Hour Plan Twenty fires from Wind Carlos Man on twitter from when Carlos when Carlos Carlos sets it up yeah okay get Carlynn here. You've just lost money. Oh I am. I allowed in on this one <hes> by the way mythical money money I lost yesterday GimMe Gimme another twenty five hundred on the dodgers minors running.

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NaPodPoMo Day 25 Spring-Nuts

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

04:43 min | 10 months ago

NaPodPoMo Day 25 Spring-Nuts

"Hi I'm Jesse Jackson. And this is an episode of thirty days of Springsteen national podcast post month is a challenge that is offered to podcasters to see if they could podcast every day for for the bunch of Denver. So thirty days of number thirty episodes of your podcast and this is my attempt to meet that challenge coach one of the things that I love most about doing the spring seen. podcast gassed is the amount of interactions. I get to do with fans from around the world and this would not be possible. Oh without the Internet. Whether it's skype whether it's facebook live Google talks the ability to access the worldwide web is is the reason why this show can exist. And I'm very grateful for that. I'm grateful for the online community of springsteen fans one of the most prevalent is the facebook page spring nuts. Julian Howie do a great job of keeping keeping everyone focused on having fun loving Bruce Loving his music and enjoying each other's company whether we do it virtually early or every year during the spring nuts of round up get together so so far. I've never made a spring nut serenade but it is on my bucket list of things to do. I just wanted to say that all all the support that I've gotten from people like Howie like Julie has been the world to be So many people from the spring nuts community as well as the other facebook I'm part of is a great support to this podcast. I also want to thank all the people that have been on this show multiple times. A big part of the podcast is me finding finding fans. I haven't ever talked to you before and letting them talk to me in visit and sharing but I do have a people that have been multiple guests and I'm just so proud of them They have been On the show multiple times I actually have a segment of my website. Were I call them. My all star Band Alley Scales. Mitch Slater Donna with Bruce Funds. Tim Arnold Peter Chanaka j Armstrong. I'm strong Bella Puri. Dan Fritsche Jim. And Patrick from rock in the suburbs. Rob Karnak J Clarke from Bruce Springsteen gene since the alphabet Dale Hosic Kevin Long from the Kevin. Long show Dr Scott. Terry Smith from music talks. All of them have been on multiple times. All of them are very always supportive in happy to join me and I really really really appreciate it. So today's gratitude post it's all about the online fandom and my repeat guests who mean the world world to me how about you have you already join me then join me again so you can make the all star band or if you've never join me we reach out to me and said listen bruce gmail.com and say Hey Jesse I WANNA talk Bruce. Because I'd love to have you. This was the latest episode of set. Less than Bruce Thirty days springsteen episode we we are contributing and the national podcast posting month. Thank you for being along for the ride. I am Jesse Jackson and I hope you give me some feedback. Please send it to me. At set lesson Bruce Achievement dot com or you can reach out to our facebook page at set. Listen Bruce you can also go to do. The show's website W._W._w.. SET LESSON BRUCE DOT COM. What are you grateful for?

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Set Lusting Bruce 5 year anniversary

Set Lusting Bruce: The Springsteen Podcast

07:28 min | 2 weeks ago

Set Lusting Bruce 5 year anniversary

"Hello, and welcome to a new episode of settlers think works your podcasts, all amount Bruce springsteen his music mostly as fans but today's episode is all about. Our five year anniversary set lesson Bruce, I. Came my very first episode. was. released. September eighth. Two Thousand Fifteen. So, this is the five year anniversary of the podcast. over the past five years, we've had almost six hundred episodes. That is a lot of springsteen talk. But of course, over that, we've also had book reviews. We've had other podcasters. We've had discussions with other talking about other musicians. That people are passionate about. And so the month of September we are going to celebrate all month. Is If. You were concerned that Kosh Jesse quit putting out to episodes a week I'm saying I'm getting behind I apologize in advance. The plan is to try to put out five episodes a week get it five fifth anniversary so that we would have You would actually have twenty episodes at the in December to share. there's GonNa be a Lotta Fun. We're going to do. We're going to have artists. We've got Alice. Ashcroft. Who is a musician? Who Does her own podcast? I have Mark Hornak. A WHO'S A for Springsteen Fan I've got Matt McKee returning, and we're GonNa talk about gang of youth songs. I've got two brothers in Evan sharing a story I have Ian Breeze we coming back We have a special episode of music talks with Terry Smith. We have some episode called Dan's of Your Life for me and my buddies over at the how many podcast pick answer different questions with different bands, and then we also have some stuff where you have songs of your life which we have eleven questions. What is a song? You hate was a soggy love. What is the song? That made you fall in love with music? What is a song you hear over and over again? all springsteen songs. You can pick any springs soggy you want, but you can only use one song. At a time to answer questions. So if you use thunder road as a song, you love you can't use that for the song that made you fall in love with springs. we're going to have several episodes of that I'm GonNa pull back some old episodes from the past push them out say it's GonNa be celebration. There also is a special new settlers think ruth fifth anniversary logo that's going to be available on t shirts and mugs and magnets, and we're hoping a couple of you. WanNa pick up a shirt. so As we start I'd love to hear from you. the last time I did this was at my fiftieth episode. And we had asked Jesse segment. We. Did some clip shows I would love to do and asked Jesse segment on this. So Send Me. Your Questions either on twitter at Jesse Jackson DFW or asset listening Bruce, you can send to at settling Brusett gmail.com you can go to our facebook page and post them there. However, you want Sydney the questions you want me to answer I'll be glad to do that also. If. You WanNa send me a voicemail send me. Attach a file and send it to me. settlers Bruce Edgy Mel dot com, and giving me the thoughts on what the podcast has been to you. I think that's it. So get ready for the next month run out some fun. We're GONNA, go through a lot of episodes, and then in October I'm going to take a break. but for now, thank you so much. I am thrilled that I've been able to talk. Bruce springsteen for the past five years I. Grateful for the hundreds of people that have joined me and for the thousands of people who listened to the podcast. you know I love you. So thank you for everything. Remember. Be careful. Remember a social distance wash your hands. Be Smart wherein. FM Bask and remember I. Love You. Doing a podcast at times can be a one way conversation and I hate that. So please let me know what you like and don't like about the work I'm doing. You can reach the podcast via email at settling bruce gmail.com. The show is on twitter at settlers. And my personal twitter is at Jesse Jackson DFW. We have a website, www settlers listen bruce dot com. From there. You can find links to other springsteen podcasts as well as other music themed podcast. We have a page devoted to our own S. L. B. All star band. These are guests who have been on the podcast more than three times. There is a link to our store where you can purchase settling shirts as well as a merry question t shirt. There is a link to our patron page where you can sign up to help support the podcast. Financially, we have different levels and different rewards based on your support. If, you don't have any extra cash and right now who does you can sport the podcasts by subscribing va your favorite podcast player in leaving us a review the more reviews we have the easier it is for people to find us and please tell a friend about the podcast especially, if they love Bruce or music because it will make a difference. You just heard the fun talk. Hard rock music. Album raking. Fan Thinking, Joyce. leered readings store sharing against. The Settlers. The settling bruce is part of the southgate media podcast group. The theme for Settling Bruce was written by David Rosen used by permission.

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