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Cross-Cultural Casting: Noteworthy for Hollywood, but Not Exactly New
"About unconventional casting choices in film and TV. Mindy Kaling playing Velma and Scooby Doo spinoff Black Jamaican actress Jodie Turner Smith playing the doomed wife of Henry, the eighth and the British miniseries and Berlin. My dear sister No holds a loose tongue in her head. So does this sort of diverse casting violate some unspoken rule about realism critic Bob Mondello takes a long view, he says. Cross cultural Casting has always raised eyebrows, even though it's as old as casting itself in the fifth century BC When the Greek playwright escalates, needed a defense attorney for his leading man in the tragedy, the Oresteia he picked the God Apollo choice You do not make if you're worried about verisimilitude in casting. Live theater has always assumed the audience can make imaginative leaps. Whether it's depicting warrior kings who rant my kingdom for a horse or founding fathers who rap. I am not throwing away my shot. Hamilton, of course, is a special case. Just like my country. I'm young, scrappy and hungry, and I'm Shot. It's a Broadway musical, famous not just for putting hip hop in the mouths of Thomas Jefferson and George Washington but for matching black and brown faces to those historic white characters. Every time I write a piece of theater, I'm trying to get us on the board Latino composer lyricist Lin Manuel Miranda, speaking with fresh air's Terry Gross, black and Brown artist. This is a story of America, then told by America Now it's our country to with inclusion as Hamilton's calling card, diverse audiences made it a worldwide phenomenon, an outcome that seems natural. In retrospect, but that flew in the face of decades of theater practice in 1986. When the stage union actors equity convened the first national symposium on nontraditional casting. It noted that more than 90% of actors hired in the U. S were white and presented scenes designed to help theatre makers consider other possibilities. In Tennessee Williams's
Cross-Cultural Casting: Noteworthy for Hollywood, but Not Exactly New
"The conventional criticism of diverse casting is that it violates some unspoken rule about realism. It's utterly one way traffic. He will not be getting any white people. Playing fellow lay anytime soon. If there's a bio-pic nelson mandela will not be played by a white actor. This is gum. That's the view on one british. Talk show anyway. But as npr's film critic bob mandela explains cross cultural casting has always raised eyebrows even though it's as old as casting itself in the fifth century bc when the greek playwright escalates needed a defense attorney for his leading man in the tragedy or sta he picked the god apollo choice. You do not make. If you're worried about vera similitude in casting live theater has always assumed. The audience can make imaginative leaps whether it's depicting warrior kings who rant or founding fathers who wrap shots. Hamilton of course is a special case. It's a broadway musical famous. Not just for putting hip hop in the mouths of thomas jefferson and george washington but for matching black and brown faces to those historic white characters. Every time i write a piece of theater. I'm trying to get us on the board. Latino composer-lyricist lin-manuel miranda's speaking with fresh air's terry gross black and brown artists. This is a story of america then told by american now. It's our country to talk with inclusion. Hamilton's calling card. Diverse audiences made it a worldwide phenomenon and outcome. That seems natural. In retrospect but that flew in the face of decades of theatre practice in nineteen eighty-six when the stage union actor's equity convened the first national symposium on nontraditional casting. It noted that more than ninety percent of actors hired in the us were white and presented scenes designed to help theater makers consider other possibilities
Introducing Ronald Young Jr., Solvables Newest Host [TEST]
"Listeners. I want to introduce you to ronald young junior. You might be familiar with his name from other work. In podcasting leading shows like time well spent and leaving the theater. He's sometime guess contributed around. Npr's pop culture happy hour. We are really excited to make it. Official that ronald is going to be the newest host of solvable. Thank you thank you for having me. I'm so so excited to be here so publicly on the team. Believe it or not hosting solvable is not my main job. My main job is being. Ceo pushing in and pushkin over the last year in lockdown has like doubled in size. We have almost fifty people now. And it's exciting. There's a lot going on But it's sort of crowded out the time that i like to spend preparing and figuring out gas that also i'm not really a host. I don't know if you noticed that. I think i am trade. I'm an Host i have certain hosts qualities that i'm really interested in talking to the guests on the show And i have a lot of drive to learn. But i don't have that quality of hosting which i hear your voice and i really wanna know how that is done. Well first of all. I don't know if that's that's the message like we got hosted coaster said coming on all star show. I've always found it easy to talk to people. I've always founded easy to connect with folks and ask questions. And i'm curious about and mostly because as a child i was always encouraged to ask whether it was two friends. The families the teachers. And i think that's what helps with being a good host and with conducting good interviews. Which you do a great job of thank you ronald but yeah no. I think that just that basic quality of curiosity. If if you don't wanna know you can't read someone else's questions the producers on the show do suggest a lot great questions for us but ultimately you ask the ones that are your questions that have been you want. no yes. It's funny because like you know working with the solvable team. It's certainly is a team effort. But i think what makes a good host that what makes a good interviewer is the ability to read the conversation and to know when it when it needs to take a turn when it's about the pivot or when you're curiosity might push the interviewee a little deeper into the subject matter and even more comfortable and ready to answer more questions as they go so and i really enjoy doing that so this is a very exciting role for me. You do something i mean. Since were on this this topic. I do think being a really good host goes beyond just the flow of the conversation. Asking the right questions that something about creating this this environment this kind of comfort even this sense of place. And here's what. I don't feel that. I really know how to do but i hear in your voice you know in a lot of the people who are just really good shows terry gross. You know you just feel like you're at her place like you're in her world and you know in the guest is coming into her world and you feel as a listener. You're made to feel welcome and comfortable. How do you do that route. You know wish. I could say there was a trick. I wish i could tell you. Hey do this thing. And this'll this'll work but for me. It's just it's hospitality. It's really being genuinely interested in what they have to say. It's paying attention to them. Not necessarily thinking so far ahead that you can't be president in the conversation creating that warm sensitive environment it really comes from like a genuine place inside people and i think most people talk to you. We'll tell you that this is who. I am all the time. So it makes it easier for me to just bring this be to a hosting role Whereas some people. I think are very good at being a host and then you know in the rest of their lives are not nearly as hospitable or friendly and i can't say anything about ten gross but i i know that good host is being able to create that sense of hospitality in the conversation that they're having that moment. Yeah i think of the great host of my childhood dick caveat who was on. Tv obviously long before your time but back in the days before cable there only a few channels every night cabinet was having these interesting people on his show and he's charming. He's charmed by the gas and a lot of what he's trying to do. Is of course just inject wisecracks. I've got clip here. That's a good example of that it's cabot talking to the comedian don rickles. It's hard for you to be serious but it is. I think people don't admit that deep down inside. If i may be serious for a moment that you do something on stage that all of us would like to do if we had no class the other host i think about all the time as i grew up listening on the radio growing up in chicago. Two studs terkel here just as one example is studs terkel interviewing muhammad ali at one thousand nine hundred seventy five. Why do you think it is always in this particular theater. So many different people are. Why would they rooting for you. The outsider we'll i think the masses root for me because this scuffling they've been persecuted they figure by the tat taxes and whatever they've underdogs people are basically the underdogs hole and the things that i say from my people in the free involve people and the way i speak out in the title of the have and the and now let this. Stop me from recognizing every day man that thing. This is what they whether it'd be black or white. The massive people hardworking people the amazing thing about studs terkel circle. He was so good at talking to anybody today. He would have like a janitor and then he would. Have you know an opera singer. And then he would. Have you know a former vice president or politician and he just part of what was great about him with. He would talk to everybody the same way. Yeah i mean there's a sense of empathy that comes with no matter. Who's in the room. It should be able to be extended to anyone who's sitting opposite from you whether they'd be the janitor or the president of the united states. The other thing is not being afraid to ask even a question that may not sound as smart as you think it does. I think larry king wants said He was he was on. He was talking to jesse thorn. My friend hobie. Khan who wrote you negotiate anything. We grew up together. He says to me larry. The secret of your success is your dumb dumb. Is the great road to success. Because you not afraid to. I don't know tell me help me. That's a lot of interviews help. help me that. You're you're a brain search. You got brain surgery tomorrow morning. Think about it tonight when you go in the check your hands. If they're steady. And then all of a sudden you have this. Very poignant moment because larry king asked a question that is wow. I would have even sit there. I was like ronald do you. Do i do that. Also i wanna make sure that. I i do that but having that empathy allows you to be embassy to cross from you like i said whether it's the janitor or the president of the united states. Yeah so for this show. We do interviews with a particular kind of focused. How is problem solving. And how are people who have ideas about solving problems. Making the world veteran capable of making the world better. And that's the thing that can be big range of stuff. Yeah if you look out there let's say your your houses near the water and you look out there and you're just like the water seems to be creeping closer and closer. You're only thinking about what's going to happen when the water reaches your house and all the horrible things that can happen as the water continues to rise and the flooding when you when you start to think about all that it kind of changes your posture versus if you think how do we stop the water. How do we get the people out. How do we keep my house. Dry and think in terms of This podcast i'd like that it's pivoting from us talking so much about what the issue is because in most cases we know what the issue is what we really need to know is. What's the best way forward. How can we like either neutralize whatever. This problem is or at least adjust our lives so that the problem isn't what it is. Do we need to build a bridge. Maybe we need to build our houses higher whatever that means in order to To get out of the water. I think it gives a bit of optimism to the world
Amy Poehler on Opting Out of the 'Beauty Race'
"I don't know that. I've ever had such a bonding feeling. Is listening to you on terry. Gross years ago. Promoting your book and you said you got to a point in high school where i looked in the mirror and i said look. This isn't going to be your thing. I'm not gonna run with these lose because unlike you. I'm like you kinda say i apologize in advance so excited to be doing this right now. I'm such a fan. I kind of feel like a one fan contest. I'm going to do a lot of this both of you. Which is i'm going to be like. I'm like you. But i like to do things. I'm good at so in the beauty race i bury thankfully an early on realize. I'm not gonna win here. I'm not going to get a lot of wins here and so it felt good. Just pretend like. I was self selecting out but also the beauty racist changed. When you're in high school it was one thing and now it's not so you are winning beauty race in many ways. Well i wonder if winning it is like not racing exactly. I think that might be the new way to win it. Yes but you know. Markets his constant boring. Disappointing thing that we just keeping like. I can't believe i'm still being so rough in my own. Mind about my face like this is going to be my face. When are we going to become friends. When is it going to happen. And the answer is no right before you. Die the minute before you
Remembering 'Sound Of Music' Star Christopher Plummer
"Plummer and julie andrews scene from the sound of music people have such strong feelings about that movie the either love it or they hate it and they think it's really insipid. Where do you stand on this issue of our time I'm very fond of julie. That's the nicest thing that came out of that film for me. We we have a true in great friendship. She's an extraordinary woman professional. I'm grateful to the film in many ways because it was such a success. It is not my favorite film. Of course because i do think it's borders on mawkishness but we did our damned best not to make it too. Mawkish and robert wise kept a very tight control on it Much was difficult enough. The the sound of the music is quite wonderful. Christopher plummer speaking with terry gross recorded in two thousand seven plumber died last friday at the age of ninety
Novelist Donald Ray Pollock On Factory Work And Finding Fiction Later In Life
"Today's first guest is author Donald Ray Pollock, whose novel the devil all the time has just been made into a new netflix movie premiering next Wednesday. It Stars Tom Holland and Robert Pattinson, and here's a taste in this clip. A young boy has just watched his father pulverized two guys after they made lewd comments about the father's wife, the son's mother. Afterward the father gives his son some advice. You remember what I told you. On. The buzzer gave you. That's what I mean. got. To. Sir. Good sons of bitches out there. One hundred. These that many. Cannonball. In, both the movie and the novel the characters in the devil all the time are driven to extremes whether their fathers and sons, serial killers or preachers. The story begins in the small town of knock him stiff a real place in southern Ohio where Donald Ray pollock grew up. He didn't become a writer until he put in over thirty years at the local paper mill and got sober. But. Once he did start writing. He was noticed quickly receiving both awards and critical. Acclaim. Terry, gross spoke to Donald Ray pollock in twenty eleven when the devil, all the time was first published. Donald, Ray pollock welcome to fresh air. I'd like to start with reading from your new book, the Devil, all the time It's about the second paragraph from the prologue. So would you just set it up for us? What we have here is A young boy's name is Arvin Eugene Russell and he's following behind his father Willard and there and place called knock him stiff and they're going to Willard's prayer logging as a log in the woods where he Wants to communicate with God and So this is where they are. You know early in the morning and their. have finally reached this log. Willard eased himself down on the high side of the law and motion for his son to kneel beside him in the dead soggy leaves unless he had whiskey running through his veins Willard came to the clearing every morning and evening talk to God. Arvin didn't know which was worse the drinking or the praying. As far back, as he could remember, it seemed that his father had faulted devil all the time. Arvin little with the damp pulled his Co. tighter. He wished he were still in bed even school with always miseries was better than this but it was a Saturday and there was no way to get around it. Through the mostly bare trees beyond the cross Arvin could see whisper smoke rising from a few chimneys, half a mile away four hundred or so people lived in, knock him stiff in nineteen, fifty seven nearly all of them connected by blood through one godforsaken clam or another be it lust were necessity or just plain ignorance along with the tar paper shacks and Cinder Block houses the Holler included two general stores and a Church of Christ in Christian Union and joint known throughout the township as the bullpen. Three days before he'd come home with another black I I, don't condone no fighting just for the hell of it but sometimes, you're just too easy going Willard told him that evening then boys might be bigger than you. But the next time one of them starts his stuff, I want you to finish it. Willard was standing on the porch changing out of his work clothes. He handed Arvin Brown pants stiff with dried blood and Greece. He worked in a slaughterhouse in Greenfield and that day sixteen hundred homes had been butchered a new record for RJ Carol meat-packing. Those boy didn't know yet what he wanted to do when he grew up he was pretty sure he didn't WanNa kill pigs for eleven. Let's Donald Ray pollock reading from his new novel, the Devil, all the time. You know in the reading that you did the father tells the sun that the next time. So many beats him up the sun has to fight back and that seems to be. A recurring theme like in the opening story of your collection of short stories, the collections called knock him stiff. The opening sentence reads my father showed me how to hurt a man one August night at the torch in when I was seven years old it was the only thing he was ever any good at. You certainly seem interested in the idea of a father. Kind of indoctrinating a sun on the need to fight back and then egging on to do it even when it's inappropriate. so was is this a story that played out in your life? Well, not so much in my life I. Mean as far as I don't my dad really didn't push me to fight or anything like that. But you know when I was growing up my father and I had a very Uneasy relationship. You've got to understand my dad was born in one, thousand, nine, hundred, thirty he's still alive. You know he's eighty years old and he's still kicking but He was born in. Nineteen thirty grew up in the depression I went to the eighth grade. He was working on the railroad by the time he was sixteen, and then he was in the navy. And, my dad is a very tough. Hard. man Stra very strong man. As and in contrast to that, my mother is very shy kind. Small Bone woman. and. Either fortunately or unfortunately for me, I took after my mother and I believe. When I was a kid, my dad was. Maybe disappointed for not taking after him more. So. You know that's where I guess part of that comes from it and part of it also comes from. Lived in stiff. That's where I grew up and I saw a lot of other fathers who were you know drinkers and hell raisers and they didn't treat their families very well You know maybe they went and worked for a while and. I got enough money to go on another band or whatever, and pretty much left the family to take care of themselves. So, yeah father's have a pretty rough time and my work I just. It's just. You know I'm a father. You know I have a daughter WHO's I'm thirty years old now and I have always felt that I. Wasn't. As good as I could have been. Her mother and I were divorced when she was very young she was like a year old and and I wasn't around that much and. That's probably the best explanation. I can give for why treat father's like I do my work. Were you bullied in school. You said you, you took after your mother who wouldn't hurt a fly. So and if you were bullied, would you fight back? Did you know how to actually I wasn't bullied in school I? Never really had any problems with that and yeah, I. Mean a would fight back if I had to but. That situation you know didn't come about very much probably you know just. No more than any other normal kid you know might face that sort of thing. But. Yeah. I mean I wasn't really interested in Working on cars or farm or anything like that was more of A. I won't call myself a bookworm because we really didn't have that many books but you know I like to read and watch old movies and drawl and stuff like that and My Dad. Just you know he's a very practical man I mean, even today you know his idea of success is. Owning your own farm, starting your own business or something like that and I know that he probably looks on what I'm doing now is. A pretty useless way to spend your life trying to write books. Would you describe what the town of knock him stiff was like when you were growing up well, when I was growing up there it was. You know relocated for us. Ok we'll knock him stiff. is about thirteen miles west of chillicothe Theo, which is you know southern Ohio. It was its own little place. You know there wasn't much else around there but it was a community There were three small general stores and a bar and a church, and probably four hundred, fifty, five, hundred people now I probably was related to. At least half those people. So did you find this nurturing being in a town where half the people in it were related to you or incredibly claustrophobic? I think when I was a kid when I was a kid I was claustrophobic for me. You know I was one of those kids I was always unsatisfied I always wanted to be. Else and somewhere else. And so from a very early age. You know I was thinking about escaping from the hauler. I just Thought that I'd rather be somewhere else are somewhere else. But where you are as in Chile coffee which is. PHILADELPHIA, which is about thirteen miles away like you got out but you didn't go very far. I, really didn't get out I mean that's the weird contradiction of that whole thing you know i. Wanted to escape and them what I finally got my chance or whatever I. I chose to stay I'm out at knock stiff at least once a week even today Ladder parents go to visit. My parents are still alive. You know I have a brother and two sisters and they all live fairly close to there and So I. Think though as far as escape goes what happened with me was I quit high school when I was seventeen. And I went to work in a meat packing plant much like Weller work, Dan? And then when I was eighteen I moved to Florida you know that was going to be I was going to get away that you know by moving to Florida and I was down are working a job in a nursery and I wasn't making much money or anything only been there a few months my dad called and said. Hey, I can get you a job at the paper mail if you come back up here so. I chose to come back. You know the paper Mills Calling it was union job and great benefits and. And I knew you know for a high school dropout that was probably going to be the best job I. Ever got. You had that job for. How many years did you work at the paper mill? I? was there thirty two years and you didn't start writing till you were around fifty or is that is fifth well I'm fifty six now and I started writing when I was forty five. Okay. So how come it took so long did you know? When you weren't writing did you know that you had that in you? Well. You know I'd always been a big reader as I said and I love books. And I think maybe in the back of my mind, you know always thought writing would be a great way to get by in the world and you know, of course, I was very naive about it. The principal reasons for me you know as far as being a writer were one, you were your own boss. To you could do it anywhere. And three, you made lots of money. Wasn't until actually began writing it. I found out. That was a real true. But I. Think you know Sorta like maybe a fantasy that? It was in the back of my mind for a long time. I had a problem with drinking and for a number of years and you know it was one of those fantasies that when you got half loaded and You started daydreaming or whatever it was. One of those things that you thought about right thought about. But it wasn't really. You know I went to school when I was in my thirties I went to college I went to Ohio University and I ended up with a degree in English and You. Know even while I was there though I wasn't thinking about being a writer I never took any writing workshops or anything like that. But then finally when I was forty five my dad retired from the paper mill. And there was just something about watching him retire and go home. and. You know that was you know pretty much the end of his career and it really. Bothered me and I. Just. decided. I had to try something else you know. To some other way to. Spend the rest of my life. So. When you decided, you wanted to learn how to write what did that mean? Any. Writers or anything in for a while I just sort of scribbled and struggled. And then I'd read an interview with a writer and I can't recall her name now or no it was a lady. But she talked about typing out other people's stories as a means of maybe getting closer to them or just learn how to put a story together. and. So I started doing that. Who did you type out? I typed out a lot of different stories I. I was typing out a story at least once a week and that went on for about a year and a half. So John. cheever hemingway. Flannery. O'Connor Richard. Yates Dennis Johnson the you know the list just goes on and on if it was a story that I really liked and it wasn't. Long I, type it out, and then I carry it around with me for a week and you look at over and you know jot notes on stuff like that, and then I'd throw it away and do another one. Typing a story out, just was a much better way for me to see how you know person puts dial together or you know. Moose from one scene to the next that sort of thing. Was it hard for you to find your subject matter as a writer? Well when I first started. Trying to learn how to write. As. I said like maybe I would copy out John cheever story. So then I would try to write my own story about some East Coast suburbanite having unfair. Something like that or maybe I'd write about a re Rita Andrei debut story, and then I'd write about a Catholic priest. and. So I did that for maybe two years or so and it just wasn't working at all for me. and. Then filing maybe at about two and a half years, I wrote a story that's included in the book. Knock him stiff called back teen. And it's a very short story. and. It's about these two losers sitting in a donut shop. And that was the first thing that I had. Written that I thought wasn't too bad. And so then I increasingly started focusing on you know the people that I knew about instead of nurses, lawyers, that sort of thing that I had absolutely no idea. How to write about There's a passage in your new novel that's about a bus driver and the bus drivers father had gotten a certificate from the railroad for not missing a single day of work in twenty years and bus drivers. Mother always held this up as like what you could do. If you really you know were strive and tried to accomplish something when the bus drivers father died the bus driver hope that that certificate would be buried with his father's. We didn't have to look at it anymore, but instead his mother just like. Put It on the wall, display it in the living room. And then the bus driver thinks it wore on you after a while other people's accomplishments. I love that sentence did you ever feel that way I mean he kochman here seems. So relatively small like a good attendance record and not to knock that. But for that to be like, you know the zenith of somebody's life is. You. but did you feel that way that a war on you? Other People's accomplishments? I don't think that I paid so much attention to other people's. Successes or whatever. But I, know that I was aware you know by the time. I was thirty two or so and I've been working at the mail for about fourteen years. And I knew that all the guys that I had come in with you got hired about the same time as mayor guys even much later than that. You know they own their own home. Maybe. They owned a boat and they had two or three vehicles and they were married and had kids and on and on and on. You know in contrast to them. I've been divorced twice. I'd filed bankruptcy when I got sober I was living in this little very small apartment above this garage. Of. Motel Room and I've been living there for about. Four or five years. I owned a black and white TV that my sister had given me and I had this seventy six chevy that had the whole side of smashed in and that was it. You know for fourteen years of working there. That's what I had. And so you know there was that sense I guess of me just being a failure. Wasn't really that I wasn't jealous of those people or anything like that. I, mean I had enough sense to know that you know where I ended up was my own fault. But there was always that that idea in back of my head that. I could have done more you know I could maybe went to college or something you know. I'm sure you know if I'd wanted to go to school when I was eighteen, my dad would try to help me. and. That's not the route that I chose though how has your life changed? Now as a published writer, you have a collection of short stories. You have a new novel you got a thirty five thousand dollars cash prize, the pen, Robert Bingham Award. So, what's different about your life? well, I have a lot more time to just set on the porch and. Smoke and daydream. Think it's a legitimate. Yeah well, at least that's what I tell my wife. But my life hasn't really changed that much I. Mean I get a lot more emails. Now you know that sort of thing, but you know I still live in the same house I still pretty much. You know my daily routine is. I really can't say that it's changed that much. It's a good life and I'm thrilled that you know I've got a publisher and. You know had at least a little bit of success. You know I know a lot of writers out there a lot of writers out there who are much better than I am. And would. Probably give their left arm. To be setting, you know where I'm setting today. Well Donald Ray, pollock thing you so much for talking with us. Terry I appreciate. It. Made my day. Donald Ray pollock speaking to Terry Gross in twenty eleven. The devil all the time a new movie based on his novel of the same name.
Remembering Carl Reiner, A Legendary Writer, Producer And Performer
"This is fresh air when Carl Reiner sitcom pilot starring him, his TV writer Rob Petrie was rejected by CBS producer Sheldon Leonard rescued it by persuading Reiner to replace the entire cast, including Reiner himself. The result. The Dick Van Dyke show was a major TV hit and made a star of its then unknown leading lady Mary Tyler Moore. Terry Gross spoke with her about the show and her TV character in 1995. What were you told about the character of Laura? Just that she was going to be a wife, a television wife, and that really had its classical parameters and dimensions that they were established. And they hardly ever varied except A Sze to whether or not the wife was the star of the show. In which case she was the funny one. Or if she were the straight man for the male star, and she was then totally supportive, but all these wives We're kind of obedient and you know, a representative of the vows to love, honor and obey. They hardly varied from that, and With with Carl Reiners character the way she was written, Laura actually had opinions of her own. While she was asserting herself. She also didn't make Dick Van Dyke look like a dummy. It was ah, a matter of two people. I mean, society's expectations of that point still said, Hey, wait a minute, lady. You only go so far here, but I think we broke new ground. And and that was helped by my insistence on wearing Pants. You know, jeans and and capri pants at the time because I said, I've I've seen all the other actresses, and they're always running the vacuum in these little flowered frocks with high heels on And I don't do that. And I don't know any of my friends to do that. So why don't we try to make this real and I'll dress on the show the way I do in real life, But it wasn't that easy. The sponsors were afraid you brazen right? They pointed specifically to if they used the term cupping under And I can only assume that that meant my you know my my seat that there was a little too much definition. And so they allowed me to continue to wear them in one episode. One scene per episode. And only after we check to make sure that there was a little cupping under as possible could coming under referring to the fit of your pants, the fit of the pants on my behind, right? But within a few weeks we were we were sneaking them into a few other scenes in every episode, and they were definitely cutting under and everyone thought it was great. The funny thing is, you know. Women liked me. They were not envious of the fact that their husbands had a crush on me. It was okay with them. They they were the first to know when I would meet people. They'd say My husband loves you so much. And he thinks you're so sexy. And this was it was not thing because they were also able to identify with me as a friend as a girlfriend. There was no resentment, no fear. Yeah, well, I think that that speaks so well for the character and your your portrayal of her. Did you do a lot of rehearsing with Dick Van Dyke? Or did you just have to do it? Minutes before the actual broken? The whole show was done in what they call multiple camera technique could still done today. But back then we were maybe the sixth or seventh show to use the technique. It began with Joan Davis, not Lucille Ball as everyone thinks John Davis did a show called I married Joan. What a girl! What a world What a life! Hey for you, and then Lucy and several other shows followed. But in that show it's a little like doing theater that's captured on film. You rehearsed for five days and then Ah, On the evening of the fifth day, the audience comes in and the camera's having blocked their moves in yours lined up with them. You film it from top to bottom in continuity. So during those five days, it was at least the 1st 3 days. It was very much a matter of rehearse. And contribute and attempt things and not be afraid to fail to make a fool of yourself. Just pick yourself up. And if it didn't happen this time, then the next time the experiment maybe it will Was a wonderfully supportive creative environment. Mary Tyler Moore, speaking to Terry Gross in 1995.
What it Was Like to Interview Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor of Ear Hustle
"If you haven't heard my interview with Nigel poor and and Earl Woods from ear. Hustle I highly recommend you. Go back and listen to that episode, which should be right behind this one in your pod catcher after you've listened to that. Come back to this episodes that you can listen to the behind the scenes bonus show so with that I will introduce my special guest and he is Paul Condo welcome to the show Paul. Thank you for having me sky. Thank you for being a guest on your show. You're welcome. So. Hall writes the Podcast Gumbo Newsletter, but polly left for you to just introduce yourself quickly and tell them a little bit about about you before we get started. I have the podcast Gumbo newsletter, which recommends three podcast episodes. A week comes out every Wednesday I've been doing it. Just over about two years now, and then just at the beginning of this year I have a podcast of the same name, and that also is where I give three podcast episode recommendations and A little different than a newsletter at it focuses on national days of the year keeping it pretty consistent, though so that yes, always God. All right, so I guess we'll just get started talking about last week's show and how it came together. Take it away, Pau. All right my hope today is really that your listeners get a little inside baseball about inside podcasting and this particular episode keeping with the sports theme I'm going to give you a softball. Start us all off How do you pick your guests and and why Nigel and airline? That's a great question. It's a couple of different things usually for most episodes. It's a show that I am personally super passionate about if I'm not passionate about the show. That's GONNA. Come through in my interview and the interview just isn't going to be as good, but there have been a couple exceptions where I think that the person behind the show is someone that I'm either fascinated with personally. I would put Jason Cal so I interviewed in season one into that category I do listen to his show, but I really wanted in that interview to get under the hood of who is he because he has well I think a lot of people would say he's sort of a piece of work. And then also you know there might be someone who I think has a long history podcasting. Who I think my listeners can learn from So there's someone this season falls into that category, but for the most part it shows that I'm listening to you. I'm a fan of or that I'm just fascinated like. How did someone make something like this And so if there isn't some combination of those things going on, I think the interview is going to be terrible and I've been a fan of ear hustle since the beginning, they were on my hit list as I was planning season one. So i. mean that's a good question. I mean good point. Is You know how easy or hard is it to get interviews with people like Nigel? And early on you know what is the process you have to go through an agent or representative, or can you go straight to them? That is also a good question. In that case, I was in touch with. I don't know if I'm saying his name. Right David Qatrana I mentioned him at the end of the episode last week I was in touch with him, because he was my contact at Pr X., and he was sort of just keeping me abreast of the news coming out of the Organization for my newsletter, and he would let me know about your stuff, so I got him, and mentioned it before season one, and he was receptive, but they were really busy and I. I hope I have this chronology right, but I think it may have been I think when I first went to him. We didn't know that early on. You know. The public did not know that governor. Governor Jerry. Brown was commuting his sentence. I think that that was going on in the background. I hope I have that right because I remember after I asked him, and he said I'll really try, but they're super busy right now, so it was kind of like a maybe kind of an answer yet, and I remember that we went back and forth a few times, and it just seemed like we were sort of kicking the can down the road, and it wasn't happening and I had to figure out like who am I gonNA, talk to this season and so I finally said you know I think I have to make a decision here like let's try for next season and. I remember then listening to them on fresh air. Terry gross had them on fresh air, and she was the focus of the interview was the commutation of sentence, and how that was you know how that happened? And all of that, but they hadn't come out with season four, which was the first season where he is finally on the outside right from the outside. They had the end of season three. Though where you find out, it's happening and. You get to hear him on the phone with his mom, telling his mom might. I'm coming home and all that, so it was right in that period and I remember thinking interesting. You know that this has happened since. I started talking to David About having them on the show in retrospect. I'm really grateful that it didn't work out that first season because. Everyone wanted to interview them right around that time I mean Terry. Gross was one of many people who talk to them. Because that was like not that was big news that was at least state level, and you know I. Think there might have even been articles in. You know more national papers with national audiences about what had happened, and so I got to have a brand new type of conversation. Now you've been out. You've recorded an entire season like they were about to launch these and five when we had that conversation, so it was sort of like. What has it been like and it was a? A new angle
"terry gross" Discussed on KQED Radio
"AIR I'm Terry gross when my guest you know Monet performed the opening song at this year's Oscars electrifying the audience it was an acknowledgement of her growing importance in the worlds of movies and music she used it as an opportunity to describe her own identity saying she was proud to be standing there as a black queer artists telling stories she first became known for her Afro futurist funk soul hip hop in which she performed as her alter ego an android named Cindy Mayweather she often appeared in a taxi wearing her hair in a high pompadour she started her movie career with a bang she co starred in hidden figures which was nominated for an Oscar in twenty seventeen she also co starred in the film that won Best Picture that year moonlight in twenty eighteen her album dirty computer was nominated for two Grammys including album of the year now she stars in season two of the Amazon series homecoming which starts streaming on Friday the first season adapted from the gimlet fiction podcast of the same name was a psychological thriller about a pharmaceutical company that was secretly treating war veterans suffering from PTSD with a drug that erased their memories in season one Julia Roberts starred as a counselor in the treatment program season two starts with Janelle Monae S. character waking up in a row boat in the middle of a lake using her hands as paddles she makes it to the shore but she has no idea where she is or who she is walking down a road in a daze she's picked up by a police woman who tries to help her at the officer's suggestion he searches her pocket for some ID and finds one which says her name is Jacquelyn the police officer take her to a hospital which is questioned by a doctor Jack what brings you here tonight police officer Robert I spoke with her she said that you're feeling a little disoriented.
"terry gross" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"This is fresh AIR I'm Terry gross let's get back to my interview with John Barry is two thousand four book the great influenza about the nineteen eighteen flu pandemic the deadliest pandemic in history is on the current best seller list he co wrote a paper about the future of the covert nineteen pandemic and lessons learned from pandemic influenza which was published last month by the center for infectious disease research and policy at the university of Minnesota Barry is a professor at the Tulane University School of public health and tropical medicine what about the newspapers were they accurately reporting what was going on you know they were as a general rule not and in fact in early in the pandemic when one Wisconsin newspaper actually tried to report the truth the army initiated prosecution proceedings under the law you quoted the option a correct so they were going to try to put those editors and writers in jail they dropped the prosecution is a pandemic pandemic proceeded but again all around the country in most cases newspapers were not printing the truce in Phoenix it was funny normally local news predominates but in Phoenix when the disease first hit Boston which was the first place in the country that was hit by the second wave the legal way you can read about it a little bit in Phoenix when the disease actually got to Phoenix there was hardly a word about it anywhere in the newspapers Elise they weren't lying but they weren't printing anything about it because I thought that would be bad for the war effort bad for morale and again the only effect of that was to spread fear because people did not know and they need to know a famous example of something that was done wrong during the nineteen eighteen pandemic that we've heard a lot of references to recently is what happened in Philadelphia when I decided to have a war bond drive and not call it off in the face of the pandemic and I I want you to describe that war bond drive in this of course was to raise money for the war effort so what was that this is basically a a parade that stretch for like two miles describe what you know about that well was heavily promoted Philadelphians were supposed to demonstrate their patriotism by coming out by supporting of the war effort buying liberty loans bonds and you know was going to be one of the great events in the city's history the medical community to a person urged the public health commissioner and the mayor to cancel the parade that didn't happen several hundred thousand people turned out and I mean by then the virus was already circulating pretty widely in the community and and like clockwork forty eight seventy two hours later after the parade the disease dust exploded in Philadelphia and that was you know sort of a classic example eyes he said what not to do did you think about the Philadelphia example when do Moreland's held its Mardi Gras parade just a few weeks ago I didn't you know what as I mentioned earlier in in January actually wrote a piece for The Washington Post the saying you know does this arguing making point really that the virus could not be contained that it was going to get here and I was going to be pretty serious but at the time of Mardi Gras I don't think there even been a single death at the time known now we know there had been doubts but at the time there was not a single known death I don't think and you know no cases known although now we know there had been in Louisiana very little testing anywhere in the United States and it didn't seem dangerous to be banned because although I anticipated that the virus would get to the United States and it would be quite severe I didn't think it arrived yet based on the information I was getting on on testing obviously on that point I was wrong I live in the French Quarter I was even tangled Krueger who want us to Terrick crew a few years ago but I actually am not a parade person fortunately and I usually go to one parade here at least but I didn't go to any this year fortunately because it clearly did spread the virus do you feel very frustrated and worried watching us fall like making some of the same mistakes that were made in nineteen eighty yes there is a short answer what are some of the major mistakes you think we are repeating we have repeated well first for very different reasons the outbreak was trivialized for a long time and if these are public health measures social distancing and so forth are going to be successful people have to comply with the recommendations so by now trivializing the threat for a period of months that sort of encourages people to ignore recommendations gets it implanted in people's minds that this is not a real threat and that is being overblown by the media you know that's number one number two did testing the Bakul which continues unfortunately is just a huge huge problem when places come out of lockdown they really should have the testing and the contact tracing in place these things work they've been demonstrated to be highly successful in saving lives and also allowing the economy to function in many countries around the world I won't say we are dead last were enacted last year a good of the company by the countries worse off than we are on a policy and execution basis but for a country that should be the best in the world to be where we are in these areas is almost beyond belief John berry thank you so much for coming back to fresh AIR be well be safe and same to you thank you so much John berry is the author of the two thousand four book the great influenza about the nineteen eighteen pandemic it's on the current best seller list he's a professor at the Tulane University School of public health after we take a short break we'll listen back to an interview with Ian what com the weather in nineteen sixty five novelty hit you turn me on and left the rock world soon after to perform and write about pop music of the early twentieth century this is fresh AIR WNYC's 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Steve Martin On His Years As A Comic — And Walking Away From Stand-Up
"But if you could hold Steve Martin has been making people laugh often with highly conceptual humor since the nineteen sixties when he was a staff writer on the smothers brothers comedy hour in the seventies he became a major stand up comedy star filling arenas with his fans he rose to fame along with his then new TV show called Saturday Night Live on which he made many memorable appearances as a wild and crazy guy a medieval barber and a fan of king tut eventually the fame that brought in huge audiences also made it impossible for him to do the kind of comedy that made him original he starred in movies from the jerk to parenthood and in recent years has also written plays essays and books and toured with both his bluegrass band and with friend and fellow comic Martin short Steve Martin won the Mark Twain prize for American humor in two thousand five in was a Kennedy center honoree in two thousand seven Terry gross spoke with Steve Martin in two thousand eight about his memoir born standing up Steve Martin welcome back to fresh AIR eleven returning her thank you I thank you very much I'd like you to open with a reading from the beginning of the book and we've we've edited the slightly to make it crystal a little shorter for the broadcast great be happy to I did stand up comedy for eighteen years ten of those years were spent learning for years were spent refining and for years were spent in wild success I was seeking comic originality and fame fell on me as a by product the course was more plodding than her ROIC I did not strive valiantly against doubters but took incremental steps started with a few intuitive leaps I was not naturally talented I didn't sing dance or act the working around that minor detail made me inventive I was not self destructive though I almost destroyed myself in the end I turned away from stand up with the tired swivel of my head and never looked back until now a few years ago I began researching and recalling the details of this crucial part of my professional life which inevitably touches upon my personal life and was reminded why I did stand up and why I walked away in a sense this book is not an autobiography but a biography because I am writing about someone I used to know yes these events are true yet sometimes they seem to have happened to someone else and I often felt like a curious onlooker or someone trying to remember a dream I ignored my stand up career for twenty five years but now having finished this memoir I view this time with surprising warmth one can have it turns out an affection for the war years thanks for reading that that Steve Martin reading from his memoir born standing up which has just been published in paperback yeah I guess I didn't realize how much you closed the door on your comedy years how much there was like a before and after it ended you were done and that was it right I I I'm it was about nineteen eighty one I still had a few obligations left but I knew that hi I could not continue but I guess I could have continued if I had nothing to go to but I did have something to go to which was movies and you know the act had become so known that in order to go back I would have had to create an entirely new show and I wasn't up to it especially when the opportunity for movies and writing movies came around why would you have to create an entirely new show well like I say the the the act was really it there is a passage in the book which I caught because it was so hard to explain but the act essentially besides all the jokes and bits and everything was conceptual and once the concept was understood there was nothing more to develop it's like saying painting the same blank canvas over and over and over and over and over once the concept is no you don't see the need to see to that and that was in the back of my head that I was really done artistically with with what I had created or pastiche to you know in the reading that you just did you describe yourself as not being naturally talented did you think of yourself as naturally funny I'm I didn't didn't think of myself in that way no although I I just love to comedy I I was raised with laurel and hardy and I Love Lucy Anne and Jerry Lewis and I just loved it and I had a friend in high school and we would just laugh all day and put on skits and you know it's the Andy Kaufman thing over to Marty short thing where you're performing in your bedroom for yourself and I I loved magic and so I would practice my magic tricks in front of a mirror for hours and hours and hours because I was told that you must practice you must practice and never present a trip before it's ready but I was just inclined toward show business but I didn't know what I just like being on stage you got your start working in Disneyland you were living in southern California and when you were ten you were selling guidebooks there then you later work for magic shop demonstrating magic tricks and I get the sense from your memoir that demonstrating those magic tricks you know hours a day and really getting them getting them down because you're doing them so much that that gave you a sense that performance required a great deal of craft that even comedy wasn't just a question of going out on stage and saying funny things that there was enormous amounts of work and practice and thought that would have to go into it well that that idea of that that you really had to work at this stuff didn't necessarily come from Disneyland it I I mean I think yes and in terms of presenting a trick but having having it so well honed in your mind was really giving me a sense of security it was I don't want to go out there half baked and you know you learn that through the years you know you're you do a magic show with a friend and you rehearse it a couple of times and yes every all the timing has to be exactly perfect but while you're out there it's it's a different world it's not your mirror you have to make on the spot adjustments but that's just you know whatever entertainer does actually working at the magic shop really gave me a sense of comedy because it was all the jokes we did the tricks but we have all these jokes I had a friend Jim Barlow who you know he he was the the guy I worked with there but he had patter worked out you know it he would go to customers and say Medicare money I mean help you not and you know call them suckers it was really funny and and kind of friendly rude what was your patter I just took all of Jim's patter I'm I'm trying to think of other ones yeah I said it would just it would somebody would buy something it would say and because you are hundred customer today you get a free paperback it's a little silly things like that but Disneyland I'm fifteen right here at early act was a combination of banjo playing juggling magic tricks and comedy and some of that stating your later at two but it sounds like a vaudeville act yes I was very interested involved it was the only sort of discipline that was a five minute act on stage which is what I really enjoyed ins and saw myself doing and I bought books on it I went to the Long Beach pike which was off the carnival fair you know four is really a place for drunken sailors to get tattoos but there was also side shows is very interested in that but you know there is these are all in there these are short acts there was one of the employees at Disneyland that I worked with was named Steve Stewart and he worked in vaudeville and he did a sack for me one day on the floor of the magic shop and I had a couple of great gags one was that I actually used and I asked him if I could use them because I was very strict about using any material that wasn't mine or that that was taken from somebody else let's put it this way I became strict wasn't strict at first there is one trick that one joke that Dave steward did where he said are not yet a glove white glove in his hand the magicians glove any he said and now the glove into dove trick and he threw it into the air and then it hit the floor and he just looked at it and consent and set up for my next trick he went on and it was the first time I saw comedy created out of nothing of nothing happening and I Glaum don to that wait wait wait you're doing I think is not only making comedy out of nothing but making comedy out of people's expectations which you were going to fail to fulfill well yes exactly and I I really started that when I became a semi professional meaning I was working the local folk music clubs going around either working for free or for a week and I quickly decided that you know the material was you know good or weak or whatever and I decided whatever it was I was going to pretend like it was fantastic and how great am I how great is what you're seeing and I think that's what grizzly hunting it's a tune him too because they couldn't believe that someone actually was that confident
"terry gross" Discussed on KQED Radio
"This is fresh AIR I'm Terry gross we have an interview and performance I think you're going to enjoy the music is inspired by the first celebrated European jazz musician guitarist Django Reinhardt who along with violinist a fun group pally and their quintet of the hot club of France played infectious swing in the nineteen thirties and forties Jango is part of the Cindy tribe a subset of the ethnic minority known as gypsies the mainly live in western Europe as a young man Jango is gravely burned in a caravan fire and almost lost his left hand he only gained full dexterity in his first and second fingers yet went on to become one of the most influential guitarists in history Ganga's music is had a real resurgence in the past few decades the most major American cities you can find a hot club band based on his our guest define rumble takes its cues from Django but has a style of his own he's a French born guitarist who lives in the U. S. rumble has released many albums and composed music for the Woody Allen film midnight in Paris before the pandemic our producer Sam Briger invited rumble to our studio to play some music he wrote the other two members of this trio guitarist Thor Jensen and bassist ari foreman colon rumble had just released a CD recording all of Jane goes solo compositions co Django the pressure in the east we'll get to that in a little bit Stefan Rummel Thor Jensen my phone come on welcome to fresh AIR thank you hello hi hello hi thanks for having surging US music is growing in popularity over the last few decades here in the United States like pretty much any major city you go to has like a hot club in it which is modeled after the quintet the Django had with the violinist Stephane Grappelli but you know it's still not everyone knows as well no music would you mind playing something that's a little more typical from this catalog I think you were going to do minor swing so could you guys play that for us one two three four that is great those minor swing play mega Stephan rumble for Jensen an artful makan so Django Reinhardt was born in Belgium in nineteen ten but moved to France he was a sente gypsy and the cities are the gypsies that moved through Europe and and live in western Europe now when he was seventeen he was in a terrible fire that almost claimed his life can you tell us about that so when he was eighteen he got coaching a very terrible fire in his trailer he was eight he was eighteen eighteen yeah he came home one night his wife had prepared like city Lloyd flowers for them to sell at the market the next day and he dropped a candle in the flowers and immediately caught fire and back then the the trails where he's going to hold out you know they were like just made of wood their caravans right yeah a it immediately caught fire and it can save his wife and his baby and he covered himself was a was a cover on the left hand and he's a left side got burned they were fine but he got them a key word they wanted to pee tape he's left arm at the hospital his cousins took him out of the hospital and brought him to a different hospital who actually managed to rack save his arm and his leg they rebound his boundaries some like I see the something like that they rebounded to make it in bounds well and that this music I left hand that was not a hundred percent functional so he could use the last two fingers over his hands dipping key and the ring finger he could use them to complete the card but he could not you really use them for soloing there was not a lot of mobility and those fingers not a lot of mobility but enough to play these complex called that you hear in those improvisations and all he might have used them in souls a little bit too I'm not so sure about that but for sure most of it is with two fingers right I'm there a lot of colorful stories about Django some of them are probably not true but do you have any favorite so you like to share some of them are probably really true okay I like jingle taking the plane for example being invited by budgeting time and taking the plane attack like that with the cigarettes no luggage no get done nothing you just want to play just got on the I don't I mean I'm very cat I expecting to have like a guitar and everything so it is a key of stories they got the things you would do well when they do getting tense in which case your song is that I don't know my songs on have keys down my songs so there's like a lot of things like that he was very probability in because he was he traded he was painting and playing music would you know really how to read and write it down later on but he was probably functioning in the world of symbols and texts are realists gypsy symbol or something like that which is fascinating I don't know it's kind of like a world of dreams almost I'm in the gypsy culture in France and western Europe I think it's fair to say he's considered a hero how important you think his music as to the culture for the scene tease the other western Europe gypsies like especially than France and Germany and Holland he's god Jango is god this is it that's the fun rumble speaking with fresh air producers Sam Briger we'll hear more of their interview and more music after a break this is fresh AIR support for NPR comes from this station and from Doubleday publisher of Camino winds by John Grisham and escape to.
"terry gross" Discussed on KQED Radio
"This is fresh AIR I'm Terry gross we have an interview and performance I think you're going to enjoy the music is inspired by the first celebrated European jazz musician guitarist Django Reinhardt who along with violinist Stefan Grappelli and their quintet of the hot club of France played infectious swing in the nineteen thirties and forties Jango is part of the Cindy tribe a subset of the ethnic minority known as gypsies that mainly live in western Europe as a young man Jango is gravely burned in a caravan fire and almost lost his left hand he only gained full dexterity in his first and second fingers yet went on to become one of the most influential guitarists in history Ganga's music is had a real resurgence in the past few decades in most major American cities you can find a hot club band based on his our guest define rumble takes its cues from Django but has a style of his own he's a French born guitarist who lives in the U. S. rumble has released many albums and composed music for the Woody Allen film midnight in Paris before the pandemic our producer Sam Briger invited rumble to our studio to play some music he brought the other two members of this trio guitarist Thor Jensen and bassist ari foreman colon rumble had just released a CD recording all of Jane goes solo compositions called Django the impression east we'll get to that in a little bit Stefan rumble toward Jensen artful makan welcome to fresh AIR thank you hello hi hello hi thanks for having Jango is music is growing in popularity over the last few decades here in the United States like pretty much any major city you go to house like a hot club in it which is modeled after the quintet the Django had with the violinist Stephane Grappelli but you know it's still not everyone knows as well no music would you mind playing something that's a little more typical from this catalog I think you were going to do minor swing so could you guys play that for us one two three four that is great as minor swing played by my guest Evan rumble Thor Jensen an artful makan so Django Reinhardt was born in Belgium in nineteen ten but moved to France he was a sente gypsy and the cities are the gypsies that moved through Europe and and live in western Europe now when he was seventeen he was in a terrible fire that almost claimed his life can you tell us about that so when he was eighteen he got coating a very terrible fire in his trailer he was a team is eighteen eighteen yeah he came home one night his wife had prepared like siloed flowers for them to say that the market the next day and he dropped a candle in the flowers and immediately caught fire and back then the the trails where he's going to hold out you know they want it just made of wood or caravanserai yeah a it immediately caught fire and it can save his wife and his baby and he covered himself was a was a cover on the left hand and he's a left side got burned they were fine but he got better and he would they wanted to pee tape he's left arm at the hospital his cousins took him out of the hospital and brought him to a different hospital who actually managed to rack save his arm and his leg they rebound his boundaries some like I see the something like that they rebounded to make it can bounce well and that this music I left hand that was not a hundred percent functional so he could use the last two fingers of his hands the pinky and ring finger he could use them to complete the card but he could not you really use them for soloing there was not a lot of mobility and those fingers not a lot of mobility but enough to play these complex called that you hear in those improvisations and all he might have used them in solos a little bit too I'm not so sure about that but for sure most of it is with two fingers right there are a lot of colorful stories about Django some of them are probably not true but do you have any favorite so you like to share some of them are probably really true okay I like jingle taking the plane for example being invited by by do getting done and taking the Plano like like that with the cigarettes no luggage no guitar nothing you just want to play just got on I don't live in a very chaotic expecting to have like a guitar and everything so it is that you have stories they got the things you would do well when they do can intensive which gives your song is that I don't know my songs on have keys down my songs so there's like a lot of things like that he was very probability in because he was he traded he was painting and playing music but he didn't know really how to read and write you down late on but he was probably functioning in the world of symbols and texts are realists gypsy symbol or something like that which is fascinating I don't know it's kind of like a world of dreams almost I'm in the gypsy culture in France and western Europe I think it's fair to say he's considered a hero how important do you think his music is to the culture funders seem to use the other western Europe gypsies like especially than France and Germany and Holland he's god Jango is god this is it that's the fun rumble speaking with fresh air producers Sam Briger we'll hear more of their interview and more music after a.
"terry gross" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"This is fresh AIR I'm Terry gross we have an interview and performance I think you're going to enjoy the music is inspired by the first celebrated European jazz musician guitarist Django Reinhardt who along with violinist a fun group pally and their quintet of the hot club of France played infectious swing in the nineteen thirties and forties Jango is part of the Cindy tribe a subset of the ethnic minority known as gypsies the mainly live in western Europe as a young man Jango is gravely burned in a caravan fire and almost lost his left hand he only gained full dexterity in his first and second fingers yet went on to become one of the most influential guitarists in history Ganga's music is had a real resurgence in the past few decades in most major American cities you can find a hot club band based on his our guest define rumble takes its cues from Django but has a style of his own he's a French born guitarist who lives in the U. S. rumble has released many albums and composed music for the Woody Allen film midnight in Paris before the pandemic our producer Sam Briger invited rumble to our studio to play some music he brought the other two members of this trio guitarist Thor Jensen and bassist ari foreman colon rumble had just released a CD recording all of Jane goes solo compositions co Django the impression east we'll get to that in a little bit Stefan rumble toward Jensen an artful makan welcome to fresh AIR thank you hello hi hello hi thanks for having the jingles music is growing in popularity over the last few decades here in the United States like pretty much any major city you go to has like a hot club in it which is modeled after the quintet the Django had with the violinist Stephane Grappelli but you know it's still not everyone knows as well no music would you mind playing something that's a little more typical from this catalog I think you were going to do minor swing so could you guys play that for us one two three four that is great those minor swing played by my guest Evan rumble though Jensen an artful makan so Django Reinhardt was born in Belgium in nineteen ten but moved France he was a sensitive C. and the cities are the gypsies that moved through Europe and and live in western Europe now when he was seventeen he was in a terrible fire that almost claimed his life can you tell us about the so when he was eighteen he got coating a very terrible fire in his trailer we was a team is eighteen eighteen yeah he came home one night his wife had perplexity Lloyd flowers for them to sell at the market the next day and he dropped a candle in the flowers and immediately caught fire and back then the the trails where he's going to hold out you know they were like just made of wood their caravans right yeah Hey it immediately caught fire and it can save his wife and his baby and he covered himself was a was a cover on the left hand and he's a left side got burned they were fine but he got burned a key word they wanted to pee tape he's left arm at the hospital his cousins took him out of the hospital and brought him to a different hospital who actually managed to attack save his arm and his leg they rebound his boundaries some like I see the something like that they rebounded to make it clean balance well and that this music I left hand that was not a hundred percent functional so he could use the last two fingers of his hands the pinky and ring finger he could use them to complete the card but he could not you really use them for soloing there was not a lot of mobility in those fingers not a lot of mobility but enough to play these complex called that you hear in those improvisations and all he might have used them in Sorrell's alleged beats one not so sure about that but for sure most of it is with two fingers right I'm there a lot of colorful stories about Django some of them are probably not true but do you have any favorite so you like to share some of them are probably really true okay this I like jingle taking the plane for example being invited by by do getting done and taking the Plano back like that with the cigarettes no luggage no guitar nothing you just deflate just got on and arrive in every category expecting to have like a guitar and everything so it is that you have stories they got the things you would do well when they do can intensive which gives your song is that I don't know my songs on have keys down my songs so there's like a lot of things like that he was very probability in because he was he traded he was painting and playing music but he didn't know really how to read and write it down later on but he was probably functioning in the world of symbols and texts are realists gypsy symbol or something like that which is fascinating I don't know it's kind of like a world of dreams almost I'm in the gypsy culture in France and western Europe I think it's fair to say he's considered a hero how important you think his music as to the culture for the scene tease the other western Europe gypsies like especially than France and Germany and Holland he is god Jango is god this is it that's the fun rumble speaking with fresh air producers Sam Briger we'll hear more of their interview and more music after a break this is fresh AIR WNYC's supporters include the vital projects fund supporting the museum of.
"terry gross" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Terry gross with fresh air the corona virus is feeding the fear of people who already believed a worst case scenario was inevitable from a pandemic or environmental catastrophe nuclear war a comet crash today we talk with the author of the new book notes from an apocalypse about people who've been preparing for the collapse of civilization writer mark o'connell isn't one of those people but he does have a lot of anxiety about the future and is interested in the people who take it to extremes one of the places his research took him to is a former army munitions facility in South Dakota that's being converted into a quote survival shelter community later our critic at large John powers will tell us about two TV crime series he's been watching that he says are a good form of escape while social distancing first news live from NPR news I'm Laxmi saying more than two and a half million people worldwide are or have been infected with corona virus that's the latest count from disease trackers at Johns Hopkins University the U. S. leads other countries in case is still with more than eight hundred thousand having tested positive for corona virus the death toll meanwhile is nearing forty six thousand in this country in the state of New York fatalities have surpassed fifteen thousand school Lawrence reports governor Andrew Cuomo is resisting calls to re open businesses soon after meeting with president trump at the White House Tuesday Cuomo says he hopes the political bickering between New York and Washington is over Cuomo says the president agreed to help New York double the amount of testing for the virus up to forty thousand tests per day that number is still far below what's needed Cuomo says and re opening businesses is likely months away the governor said the economic pain of some is outweighed by the health risk to others nothing comes before the public health risk of somebody else's life and that's where we are Cuomo also says president trump agreed to waive new York's normal twenty five percent contribution to FEMA costs in the state quil Lawrence NPR news the trump administration's putting out a plan to start paying hospitals and doctors who treat uninsured covert nineteen patients health and Human Services secretary Alex Cesar says the recipients would hand in bills directly to the federal government which will then pay out at Medicare rates the administration says there will be no cost to uninsured patients on corona virus treatment meanwhile appears more licenses data show the president so far seeing a decline in support for his administration's overall handling of the pandemic he's trying to get his ratings up and convince people that he's doing a good job but he's also trying to rally his base you know when he attacks immigrants or multinational and and contusions like the W. H. O. or governors he is trying to gin up his hard core conservative base NPR's Mara license secretary of state Mike Pompeii always accusing Iran of violating U. N. security council resolutions by launching a military satellite we have the latest from NPR's Michele Kelemen Iran's Islamic revolutionary guard corps says it successfully launched the country's first military satellite into orbit the US considers the I. R. G. C. a terrorist organization and Pompey once the U. N. security council to weigh in I think Iran is to be held accountable for what they've done they've now had a military organization the United States is designated terrorists attempt to launch a satellite a U. N. resolution calls on Iran to refrain from work on ballistic missiles that could be used to deliver nuclear weapons the trump administration pulled out of the U. N. endorsed Iran nuclear deal Michele Kelemen NPR news Washington this is NPR news live from KQED news I'm terrorist Syler the cost of driving across the bay bridge age is about to change the bay area toll authority voted today to reset the price for crossing the region's busiest span something a lot fewer people are doing because of the region's shelter in home waters starting at midnight tonight tolls will be six dollars all day every day currently it's seven dollars during peak weekday hours and five dollars when it's not as busy transportation officials say it will revert revert.
"terry gross" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Terry gross when we originally scheduled the interview were about to hear we didn't realize how weird leave timely it would be let's face it the pandemic has made death of presence on a scale most of us aren't used to your beliefs about what happens after death or if anything happens might shape how you're dealing with your fears and anxieties in the new book heaven and hell the history of the afterlife my guest part Erman writes about we are the ideas of heaven and hell came from he examines the Hebrew Bible the New Testament as well as writings from the Greek and Roman era Armen as a distinguished professor of religious studies at the university of North Carolina Chapel Hill it is one of America's most widely read scholars of early Christianity and the New Testament his books such as misquoting Jesus and how Jesus became god challenge a lot of beliefs in common wisdom as for Irma's beliefs as a child he was an altar boy in the Episcopal Church at age fifteen he became a born again fundamentalist evangelical Christian after attending the moody Bible institute he studied at Princeton theological seminary which introduced him to texts and interpretations that led him to a more liberal form of Christianity eventually he left the faith altogether but man welcome back to fresh AIR it is a pleasure to have you back how are you and your family we're all well and thanks for having me back so is is the pandemic making you think differently about your book are you seeing your book in a way that you didn't quite when you're actually writing it I would say not so much I mean I my my view is that you know people always been concerned about death about what happens to them when they die and so that's why I took on this book in the first place what are the pandemic for me is simply making it crystal clear why these are issues for so many for so many people are most people course more concerned about the process of dying right now or or getting sacked or the economic but are there still there's still the issue that or just simply come more for now is it fair to say you're an atheist now well that is weird is that right I actually consider myself both an atheist and I'm like gnostic because I know I don't really know if there's a superior being in the universe but I I don't believe there is and so in terms of what I know I'm an agnostic but in terms of what I believe on I'm an atheist in a time like this do you wish you could still believe in heaven that offers eternal life in a place where you you would be United with loved ones yeah that would that would absolutely be good it's not that I wish I believed it I wish it were true hi and as I as I say in my book will probably get to I you know it it may be true that we will live after we die but if we do it'll be something pleasant like that it's not it's not going to be something awful so I'm not it's not that I wish I believed it so much easier I wish that it were true so what do you believe about death now about what happens after you die well you know I've read about death and thought about death and the afterlife many many years now armed what do you know what what lawyers say the alleged in saying that because caller saying you know what people generally sorry and I still think that Socrates was the one who are probably put it back well when when he was on trial on capital charges in death is waiting him he always talking workers are companions about what data would be and his fear is that it's one of two things either are we live on and we see those we knew before and those we didn't know before and we spend all of our time and being with them which for him was absolute paradise because Socrates like nothing better than conversing with people also now you can converse with Homer and with all the greats of the Greek faster that would be great and if it's not that I said it'll be like a deep sleep everybody loves a deep dreamless sleep nobody frets about her gets upset by having it and so that's the alternative and so it's either a deep sleep mark it's a good outcome and either way it's it's going to be fine and that that's exactly what I one of the feces of your book about the history of heaven and hell is that views of heaven and hell don't go back to the early stages of Christianity and they're not in the Old Testament or in Jesus's teachings they're not exactly this is a big surprise of the book and and it's the one thing people probably wouldn't expect because I when I know when I was growing up I just assume he this is the view of Christianity so this must be what Jesus taught us with your customer and in fact it's not right argue that you die in the summers they haven't or L. is not found anywhere in the Old Testament and it's not for Jesus preach I I have to show back in my book and I I laid out in explaining why it's absolutely not the case the Jesus believed you died and your soul to heaven or hell please have a completely different understanding that people do they don't have are there things in the Hebrew Bible that still support the idea of heaven and hell as people came to understand that things that you can extract from the Old Testament that might not literally mention heaven and hell but still support the vision that emerged of it I think one of the hardest thing for the people for all the mind around is that engine is your lights on and then in June and then Jesus himself and his followers are very different understanding of what the relationship between what we called body and soul our our view is that we you've got two things going on in the universe you have your body your physical being any ever sold is this invisible part of you that lives on after death the you can separate the two and they can exist let the soul can exist outside of the body that is not in use that was held by ancient Israelites and Jews and it's not it's not to be taught in your past in the Old Testament what we would call the soul is really more like what we would call the breath when when god creates Adam he creates some out of birth and then he breathes life into him the life is in the breath when the breath leaves the body the body no longer lives with the branch doesn't exist we we agree with this I mean when you when you die you stop reading your breath doesn't go anywhere and that was the ancient understanding engines yeah of of the soul is that it didn't go anywhere because it was simply the thing that made the body alive and so in your test there's no idea that your your soul goes one place or another because the soul doesn't exist apart from the body existence is entirely bodily and that was the reason Jesus then pick up are there specific passages in the Hebrew Bible that support the notion of an afterlife yeah I know it's a good question and and people people generally going to these passages in the book of psalms the talk about she'll she'll it's a on it it's a word that gets missed translated into English sometimes you'll as translated by the word hell and it absolutely is not what people think of as well sometimes she all is talked about by people today as the place is kind of like the Greek Hades a place where everybody goes after they die and they are really physical beings down there they're just kind of like souls and they exist forever there and there's nothing to do and they did they're all the same and so she always sometimes like that on the Bible does talk about this place because she all especially import restrictions on and our it's it's probably not a place that people go to per se if you actually look at what the US psalms say about she'll always equate it to be great we're to the pets and so it appears the engine hit this relied simply thought that when you died your body got married someplace you got put in the grave I got put in a pet and that's what we called shields the place your remains are but it's not a place where you continue to exist afterwards just about the only place in the Hebrew Bible where you get a an instance of somebody who has died who seems still to be alive afterwards is in this very strange and interesting passage in in the book of first Samuel where the king Saul is desperate for some advice from somebody who knows and so he called he has a necromancer over a woman this this woman of indoor who calls up his former adviser Samuel from the great and she also kind of sales sales and Daniel comes up and he's really upset she's called him up from the grave and he gets upset with salt for doing this and he predicts this all going to die the next day in battle which he does and what people often point to that as an instance that's what some people are alive after their death am I right is it kind of seems like that when you read it when you describe something read it but if you actually read it carefully doesn't sign that what it says is that news that Samuel came up but it doesn't say where he was and it doesn't say if he was living at the time it looks like what what what before it was raised up and looks like he was simply dead and he was brought back to life temporarily and he didn't appreciate that he was upset when we take a short break here and then we'll talk about the history of ideas of heaven and hell if you're just joining us my guest is barred Urman he's the author of the new book heaven and hell a history of the afterlife we'll be right back this is fresh AIR support for KQ weedy today comes from Sierra Nevada brewing company family owned operated and argued over since nineteen eighty order of independent thought whether that's online over the air or in a bottle more at Sierra Nevada dot com this is fresh AIR let's get back to my interview with bart Ehrman author of the new book heaven and hell the history of the afterlife he's a distinguished professor of religious studies at the university of North Carolina Chapel Hill so you write that starting in the sixth century Hebrew profits began to proclaim you know that the nation had been destroyed and be restored back to life by god would be the resurrection of the nation but then toward the end of the Hebrew Bible here a some Jewish thinkers came to believe that the future resurrection would apply not just to the nation but to individuals so how how does that shift happen right this is really important **** for understanding of both the later.
"terry gross" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"This is fresh AIR I'm Terry gross let's get back to the interview I recorded last month with Michael Pollan about his new audiobook caffeine how coffee and tea created the modern world it's about how caffeine affects the mind and body and about how coffee and tea became popular around the world caffeine is the world's most widely consumed psychoactive drug Poland's previous book how to change your mind was about how psychedelic drugs alter consciousness and how they're now being used experimentally to treat addiction depression and help the terminally ill face death one describes himself as writing about the places where culture and nature intersect on our plates in our farms and gardens and in our minds you visited a coffee plantation in Colombia what's the work like you like you you picked coffee beans what do you have to do to pick coffee beans were but yeah I mean I picked coffee beans for about twenty five minutes just to be clear this wasn't like I went under cover and I was I had this job but I wanted to see how it was grown in and I went to this finca outside of Midian and Columbia and spend a day with the coffee farmers and it was it was really interesting it's very hard work it's much harder than many other kinds of agriculture coffee grows on a very steep hillside because it needs it needs very needs lots of water so needs to be in the tropics but it needs lots of very good drainage to which you only get on the hillside and it's the spiky shrubs that has to be pruned and you are there rose that you walk between the rows of of of coffee plants that are so steep you can barely find your footing meanwhile you have this basket that suspended from your shoulders and your reaching in and picking the red berries and leaving the green berries and and you're doing this on a hillside this just incredibly hard to to move around on and and then you take them down to a processing shed and they have to be you know Paul you have to take off the pope there they they look like cherries or cranberries there read and they have a pope that actually tastes really good it's very sweet and has a coffee taste I don't know why people don't make preserves with it or something it should be used for something and and then has to be dried and fermented there many many steps so it's a very demanding and plant and it's very picky it has to have exactly the right altitude water angle in all this kind of stuff which is concerning now because coffee faces a tremendous threat from climate change you know they're they're there's a narrow band of of conditions that that make coffee happy and the estimates now on the climate scientists in this will be alarming to the to the fellow addicts out there is that fifty percent of the coffee growing regions will not be able to support the coffee plant by twenty fifty so capitalism may be killing the golden goose as climate change undermines coffee production and we may go back to rivers to which you know can grow in it is a little less picky about its environment so we may look back and say we lived in this you know golden age of good coffee that lasted from nineteen sixty six to twenty fifty and then it'll be downhill from there when we started our interview you were telling us how you gave up coffee cold Turkey when you were writing your book caffeine because she wanted to know what's it like what impact this caffeine have on you want to find out you stop that to see what the difference was and to see how addictive it was he did it cold Turkey so you can get the full force of ending your addiction yes and and then after how many months you decided to three months yeah and in three months on herbal tea and and when you started drinking it again was that still part of the experiment or just because you couldn't get her to live without it anymore no no no it was part of the experiment I I when as long as I could but I knew before I finished the the book that I would want to describe you know getting back on caffeine I fully intended to to get back to it there I didn't learn you know aside from the sleep issue I mentioned earlier they're they're not a lot of reasons to avoid caffeine I mean there are a lot of health benefits to drinking coffee and tea in moderation cough into your protective appear to be protective against several kinds of cancer Parkinson's disease cardiovascular disease there's been a suspicion that coffee must be terrible for you from the very start in the sixteen hundreds they they they claim that it reduced male potency and but it's it's it's been cleared of that too so so there isn't a good reason not to drink it unless you have a problem with it it makes you jittery you know your doctors told you not to so I fully intended to get back on it and and I look forward to the day and I planned it very carefully initially I thought I'd go to the original pizza and that would have a kind of poetic logic to it but it's a little strong for me so my wife and I Judith we we went to this local cafe where we used to go every morning before I had my fast and I got my coffee and sat outside it was a Saturday morning and it was kind of a beautiful day and there are lots of dads with little kids you know eating pastries and and I have this Cup of coffee and it was mind blowingly good I I just I you know I just had this this sense of well being sued for using my body that you know rose to the level of euphoria and I was like wow and it seemed like I had taken some kind of illicit drugs that this was cocaine or something N. and that lasted for maybe twenty minutes and then I got a little jittery and a little touchy and it was a garbage truck that was you know violently shaking these garbage cans into it across the street I was like let's get home I have to I want to get some stuff done and I've and I felt this incredible surge of almost compulsive desire to to get to some state some stuff done and I sat down at my computer and I unsubscribe from about a hundred list serves that were really bugging that you know with these things come up in your computer every day and you never have time to deal with well I dealt with them and then I turned in my closet and I saw that the pilot sweaters was all scrambled and I and I I organized all my sweaters and it was incredibly productive for a couple hours anyway V. experience made me realize that that the getting back on coffee and tea is very different than having your maintenance dose and so I thought is there a way I could hold on to the power of this drug experience otherwise I was going to slip back into the ranks of you know normal caffeine addicts so for a long time I said all right you just have coffee on Saturdays and for a long time I did that and it worked pretty well and I look forward to Saturday's I got a ton of stuff done but I venture leave the slippery slope intervened so what is caffeine doing for you now what caffeine is doing for me now is kind of organizing the rhythms of my day I mean something you know I missed when I was off caffeine is there is that you know that that morning surge and and that sitting down to work in and having that kind of real focuses you attack whatever you're doing for the day and then even I enjoyed even the subsiding after lunch and that low that you got around three o'clock and you could have a Cup of tea and that would kind of restore your energy for another hour or two and just the rhythm of the day was shaped by ingestion of this molecule and and it's doing that for me now and I understand that rhythm and I can you know I thread my work through that rhythm and it it it works for me and I did miss it I you know what I do another fast I might I mean it's you know I have to say that the pleasure of breaking the fast was so great that is almost worth the work so some people say in comparing coffee and tea that coffee is such an upper that against you to lose focus we're S. T. gets you to increase focus what do you think I think it all depends on how you kind of Thai trade it when I have a Cup of coffee by my side and I'm writing I don't take a bunch of steps because you can get to your right you can come over run yourself outstrip your mind and get a little too forward get ahead of yourself so I I think though that we we kind of automatically do that I mean if you look at when people take a sip of coffee something's going on it's not just that they're thirsty they're they're reaching another some rhythm of the experience that they're modulating and we do this subconsciously I think you can do the same with coffee or tea I don't think it's inherent but for me writing sipping coffee is you know really helpful I didn't feel the same when I was doing that certainly with herbal tea you know I say in the in the book what masterpieces ever been produced on camomile tea but but you know green tea is pretty good too I mean it's much more low level so I just think whatever the drink we kind of find a sweet spot for how calf unaided we want to be for whatever we're doing and you can make those adjustments whether you're drinking coffee or tea let's take a short break here and then we'll talk some more my guess is Michael Pollan and his new book is called caffeine how coffee and tea created the modern world and it's not a print book it's an audio book it's an audible original we'll be right back after a break this is fresh AIR WNYC's supporters include the Yale school of management executive education presenting women on boards a program which coaches executive women.
"terry gross" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"This is fresh AIR I'm Terry gross let's get back to my interview with Octavia Spencer she won an Oscar for her performance as a maid in the help and was nominated for Oscars for her performances in the shape of water and hidden figures now she's starring in the Netflix limited series self made which will start streaming Friday it's inspired by the story of madam CJ Walker who was born soon after the civil war two parents who had been slaves in the early nineteen hundreds she sold and manufactured hair products for African American women and became the first self made American woman millionaire Octavia Spencer grew up in Montgomery Alabama so as I hear you talk now I'm not hearing a southern accent I've heard you with southern accents and someone who rolls did you have an accent when you went to Hollywood is that something that you lost or that you never had but that you knew well enough so that you could call on an as needed for performances well I at one of the ways that I paid for college was through oration and speech competitions and that's one of the things that you you do you lose your accent and only for me I lost my accent only to find it again in Hollywood I mean the only people I know the only women I knew growing up were southern women so most of the characters I play will likely be southern if they're from a certain class if you know it's it's I I pick it up I lose it and if I'm around southern people it definitely comes back quite easily so how did oration speech competitions pay for calling out they were monetary prizes for a few that you would enter it was a great deal of money but for me there are scholarships involved but small monetary need piece them together to help pay for college at least that was my way so what are some of the topics that you had to operate about a whole man I I can't even remember I I think it actually you know I I remember excellence black excellence I definitely remember one that was about black excellence do you think that the operations speech competitions were helpful in terms of having an acting career meet it's kind of a performance and you have to do in front of an audience well I actually am not the best in front of an audience I have severe stage fright so I had to confront that and and public speaking I I always get extremely nervous before any speech that I have to do and that and that has not dissipated at all and so I had to embrace the fact that I will likely always have stage fright my impression is that you first thought really seriously about acting after seeing the movie the long walk home being shot in Montgomery Alabama where you live so and you manage to work your way into working on the film I think as an intern how did you talk your way into working on the film I annoyed them you know I don't I when I found out where the production our office is where I I I went by every day to tell them you know that I need to work on that film and they were so annoyed that they knew that I was going to continue to come back if they didn't give me a job and so I was paid a hundred dollars a week as an intern and it was I think I don't think I had ever been happier about anything so what was your job as an intern as an intern I worked in the extras casting office and we did the open our calls and sign people up and they all had their period costumes so they had to come in for their costume fitting so I was there monitoring that and then when we actually filmed I kind of was the extras wrangler so I had to keep them entertained and what I would do is make these certificates because all the extras wanted was to meet the actors and so I would give the actors to sign about ten certificates and then an extra holding we would have talent contest and the extras would vote for each other and the best once we get the prize which were signed certificates by the actors and this was all your idea it was all my well I mean if they're going to be there for for twelve thirteen hours you have to keep them entertained so they would come back especially for continuity and large crowd scenes and it was usually just for those days that we did that that I did the certificates so what what point did you decide to go to Hollywood well working on all those projects the one thing that always happened my boss would do the location casting and the extras and the directors would always have like a one line part that they were trying to cast and they would always referred to me like someone get someone like Octavia and then they would ask me to read for stuff and I was actually I guess to society or nervous to audition and so I would always say to her I would always turn the parts down or the audition down and then we were working on a time to kill in Mississippi and Joel Schumacher was the very first director who didn't ask me to read for something and so I went to him it made me actually more proactive I had to go to him and ask him to read for the part of a woman who started the riots I don't know if you remember the movie and he said no your face is too sweet to start a riot you should read for sandy's nurse and he gave me the part and I went on to play about thirty two nurses for the only way he started my career but that I think it was the fact that I don't if he had asked me I don't know that I would have been as a Ford I probably would have turned it down and and missed out on on the career that I have today I don't understand the leak you want her to be in movies you wanted to be an actress at and directors are asking you to read and you you you you wouldn't do it I wouldn't do it I fear that I wouldn't get the part I guess I don't know in fact we sometimes with we fear our own success and I think not being offered that part made me know that I wanted to actually do it and I had to commit and the rest is history so you played a lot of nurses that mostly on TV I played a lot and TV films it was a nurse number one baby nurse nurse number two then they give me a name I mean I was it Steven Bochco I was I have had a lot of nurse parts with Steven Bochco he was so good to me when did you break out of the nurse lane I mean I actually never broke out of a nurse like I was a nurse not even six years ago on a show called red band society I I finally had to to to say no more nurses so I don't I I don't think I ever broke out of it was just to the realization that I probably should stop being typecast as a nurse so when you first moved to LA you move with Tate Taylor who became the director of the help the movie you were in an one academy award for so what do you do to find a place when you first got there did you have money from your film jobs in Alabama I had three thousand dollars to my name which I I mean it when I think back on it well I was he had a house sitting job and then when I found out he had a house sitting job I thought well I can get a house sitting job hello I got a house that it was sort of we we we we I there is a young man that I had worked with on now Tom and Huck and his parents were affluent from Huntsville and decided that he yeah he was like a like maybe thirteen and he needed someone to drive him to auditions and everything and so I house sat for the parents and and drove him from time to time to auditions when he needed that so I was able to live for free and pocket my money from my my day job good deal yeah it was a great deal probably very nice house I recommend it let's take a short break here and then we'll talk some more if you're just joining us my guest is Octavia Spencer and she stars in the Netflix series that's a limited series called self made inspired by the life of madam CJ Walker it begins on Friday we'll be right back this.
Author Roth weighed in on 'Plot Against America' before TV series was adapted
"This is fresh AIR let's get back to Terry's two thousand four interview with Philip Roth his book the plot against America is the basis of a new HBO mini series that starts Monday the novel has been adapted by David Simon and ed burns who worked together on the wire Roth died in twenty eighteen no no president Limburg in your novel may be anti semitic but after he's elected he knows better than to just come out and say at any initiate a program that brings young Jewish children to the quote heartland to kind of initiate them in the ways of heartland American life he initiates a homeland program that relocates Jewish families to get a quote heart heartland places of America and nobody really knows the Jewish families don't really know whether this is really meant to be a way of opening up their horizons are broadening their lives or whether it's a truly anti semitic way of removing them from safe friendly neighborhoods and putting them in in communities that might be very hostile and it also kind of breaking up the Jewish vote by breaking up a Jewish communities did you imagine that for Lindberg to really catch on in America he would have to use euphemistic language for anything that might truly be anti semitic at heart and helps in the language of the you know the heartland and just folks in mmhm mmhm you know well they are it is ambiguous to know what the intention is of for instance to begin with the first one which is called just folks that is a program in which Jewish boys from I think ten to fifteen for remember correctly volunteer if they want to to spend eight weeks in the summer on a farm somewhere my brother goes to Kentucky networks and tobacco farm they can go to any any place that's available where they can do farm work and work they ordinarily wouldn't do what's wrong with that why is it mostly Jews and that's what makes people nervous put it on the face of it there's nothing wrong with it now we move on to the next program which is called homestead forty to nineteen forty two as opposed to homes at eighteen forty two which was the original homestead act that is something else according to that piece of legislation large corporations are encouraged to transfer their Jewish employees to offices in more remote parts of the country and in the face of this legislation my father whose company is going to move us to Kentucky quits his job our lives in a way that is more because that is what there's more coercive that is I would say a bit more ominous and may be Lindbergh handy shown a little more strongly on the other hand if that's all this guy does it's not too terrible you know the limber disappears from my book before you can do anymore so you never really know what he's up to and again that's what I wanted I you never really know what he's up to he's a kind of jam heroic statue who looms over the book after after limber disappears then all hell breaks loose but I don't remember nobody can even in that that homestead act you know that in which corporations relocate Jewish employees the letter that your father gets home in the novel is so euphemistically just read a few lines from it you know if you're calling in life is proud to be among the very first group of major American corporations and financial institutions selected to participate in the new homestead program which is designed to give emerging American families a once in a lifetime opportunity to move their house sold at government expense in order to strike roots in an inspiring region of America previously inaccessible to them well doesn't that sound great but you know as the family in the novel figures out this is this is the the government and the corporation joining hands to to coerce Jewish families to move it was great fun writing that letter yeah yeah you really got that cheerful corporate PR results down found out what it was like to be Dick Cheney yeah I it's it's it's it imagine most people would not I would be impenetrable they would just take it at face value my father because he's so committed again against liberty from the start refuses to to do with aspirin Philip's cousin you know your cousin Alvin in the book get who who is something of a hood Hey Taylor and wants to fight against him and you know the United States under Lindberg is not going to join the war but he wants to wants to enter it anyway so he joins the Canadian Army and fights against Hitler but he loses half of one leg in the war and returns with a stump that's covered in ulcers boils and scabs he moves in with the Roth family and a first it's horrifying to fill up he says it was bad enough that we weren't living in a normal country now we would never again be living in a normal house a life of even more suffering was taking shape around me any praise to the housekeeping guides to protect our humble five rooms and all they contain from the vengeful fury of the missing leg in thinking about the impact that this missing leg this stump would have on the young Philip Roth's life did you have anything like it anything comparable to draw on from your own life no I didn't I didn't I I had to think my way through it I think the only thing that comes close lineages I never had as a child when I was in the army and I guess I was in my early twenties I was in the public information officer will treat hospital in Washington and my job was to go out into the wards and get information about US soldiers newly arrived who were injured or hurt or whatever and then write a little press release for the hometown paper and they had a lot of amputees at Walter Reed may be able to reverse the center I don't remember but they had many entities and so I went out on the wards and and I talked to these guys it was a sad as you can imagine is just after the Korean War or I go down to P. T. within physical therapy and watch them learning to walk on the parallel bars and so and so I sold my shares of stumps and not just of legs and the pathos was overwhelming overwhelming and so I carried this with me I think into the block and I think it's why it maybe even when I came to me that in fact I haven't thought of it till till now but I think perhaps that those experiences had a lot to do with determining how often would be would be wounded author Philip Roth speaking to Terry gross in two thousand for his alternative history novel the plot against America was published that year he died in twenty eighteen a mini series based on the novel begins Monday on HBO adapted by David Simon and
Adam Driver Hates Watching Himself in Movies
"It'll be interesting to see during the Oscar. TV Show exactly how Adam driver reacts when they play a clip of his best actor nominated performance because he hates seeing or hearing himself on screen so much that a few months ago he walked out on Terry Gross in the middle of an interview for fresh air when she played a clip of him which surprised me because when I talked to him in two thousand thirteen he was indulgent as we watched one scenes from the TV show girls. I did ask him why it made him so uncomfortable. I mean lots of reasons I just forgot why look like to was reminded in my God. That's what you have to go through that But mostly because I feel like If he was gonNA continue if it was going to kind of go on that You know I came from a theater background or you. Don't get to look at the end result or what what is actually being a Brosseau. You just have to do your homework than As much as you can then show up on the day and be open to something being different or not knowing the answer and I think think in things that I've watched in the past one I would just obsessed about them for months and drive myself crazy after you saw your work of things that I wanted to fix and change your or do over again in an obviously you can't and and same thing with the people around me. I just drive them nuts with like ask him quite so we would just couldn't wouldn't it be allow you to like. Oh next time and I won't do that or get better the next time. I don't think it's necessarily a good idea. Just kind of seems to be what I think. I have a natural tendency to try to make things perfect or better looking or Change it for the sake of changing at arbitrary Changing making it look better in the things that I'm interested in an watching in film theatre and television role is the imperfect or the ugly part of it. I just know it myself. Especially while we're shooting I have no interest to see what is coming
China’s coronavirus - Here’s what we know
"This is fresh air I'm Terry gross the new corona virus that emerged in Wuhan China has killed almost five hundred people and prompted the Chinese government to impose severe travel restrictions within the country the virus has spread to at least twenty four other countries including the U. S. American air carriers have suspended flights to and from China the US government is barring from entering the country any foreign nationals who visited China within last fourteen days our guest science writer David Coleman says the new corona virus is just the latest example of an ominous trend humans contracting deadly contagious viruses from wild animals other examples include H. I. V. west Nile fever anthrax bola and another from the corona virus family sars severe acute respiratory syndrome which also emerged in China and killed more than seven hundred people David common has written frequently for National Geographic and is the author of several books including spillover animal infections and the next human pandemic he spoke with fresh tears Dave Davies well David common welcome back to fresh air yeah this is scary stuff this virus and it's also a very fast moving story you and I are talking on Tuesday afternoon things may change a bit by time people hear it but us a sense of how serious the threat is of this virus compared to other outbreaks we've seen well it is very serious and needs to be taken very seriously and yet it's not an occasion for panic it's an occasion for calm effective response comparing it to other viral outbreaks he is is illuminating in some ways and problematic in other ways compared say to influence every year there's a seasonal influenza sweeps around the world F. infects hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people kills something like thirty thousand or thirty five thousand people in the US every year and yet it has a very low case fatality rate case fatality rate how many diaper the number of people infected it's down I think usually around point one percent a tenth of a percent sars virus that emerged from southern China with the syndrome caused by a virus that emerged from southern China in two thousand three a severe acute respiratory syndrome it infected eight thousand people a little over eight thousand and it killed seven hundred and seventy four for case fatality rate of almost ten percent in other words a hundred times seasonal influenza the average seasonal influenza and it scared the be Jesus out of the public health and disease scientist experts that I know they told me that that was a really scary one because the case fatality rate was so high and it spread quickly but they managed to stop it and we can talk a little bit about that so here's this novel coronavirus as they're calling it to two thousand nineteen novel coronavirus and it comes in somewhere between those two case fatality rates and that is one of the most important numbers at the experts have been watching and I've been watching over the last week or two as the numbers of infected people have exploded and the number of deaths have increased steadily the case fatality rate has hovered moving downward slowly from about three percent to a little over two percent now and it it is still very unpredictable we don't know how many people it's gonna infect and therefore how many people it's gonna kill but it's in the range that that requires being taken very seriously so let's look at what's what officials are doing to try and contain this novel coronavirus and your describes what what's happened in China China was slow to react to this particularly the officials in the city of Wuhan and the province of who by and then the course got out of the barn and the national officials reacted strongly and sealed off essentially first the city of Wuhan and then a number of other cities so I think there's more than fifty million people who are essentially in locked down with no public transportation going in and out of those cities China has been cutting internal flights in and out and to other countries have been cutting flights international flights in and out of China the US in terms of flights of foreign nationals are barred from entering the U. S. if they have recently traveled to China and US citizens coming back from Wuhan or who day province are being quarantined for fourteen days which is the suspected incubation period of the virus other countries are eliminating flights in and out of China I saw this morning that Japan has eliminated flights in and out of China so there is this international curtailment of flights in and out of China and in some cases people are being screened at airports and in a limited number of cases people are being quarantined if they have been and bay province and and want to come back to the U. S. or to another country do all these seem like reasonable and appropriate steps to well the the controversial to some people but to me they do seem reasonable controlling containment is important at this point I don't think it's an infringement around do infringement on anybody's personal rights we have to control cases and monitor cases and trace contacts and any time the thirties learn that an infected person has written on an airplane and then then we headed off into the city where they've arrived medially there three hundred people roughly on that airplane who are contacts that have to be traced and have to be monitored if not isolated and the person who is to enter the city and has gone to his or her family and they're more context there that will immediately have to be traced that's what happened in Toronto early on during the sars epidemic one case got into Toronto and she spread the the infection rather widely as soon as she's gotten there right so so the steps that managed to bring the sars epidemic under control back in the early two thousands were exactly these kinds of steps exactly these kinds of steps we knew less about sars at the very beginning except that it there was some very dangerous infectious disease caused by an unknown pathogen that had come out of southern China to Hong Kong and gotten to Toronto Beijing Bangkok and one or two I think Hong Kong one or two other cities and then there was very rigorous no medical isolation and containment and contact tracing and public health officials were able to reduce the transmission rate of sars to a very low level now in terms of the average secondary cases caused by each primary case the average number of infections that each infected person cost they brought that to a very low level and essentially they stopped the sars outbreak right now they've been some rip reporting suggesting that the trump administration has over the last couple years reduced the government's ability to fight a viral epidemic do you have an opinion about that yes I think it's I think it's well documented in the trunk budgets and it's been I think disastrous for the CDC and for our preparedness my understanding is that trumps twenty twenty budget proposed cutting one point three billion from the CDC budget that's twenty percent below the twenty nineteen level in the twenty nineteen level contained cuts of seven hundred fifty million including I look this up recently including a proposed cut of a hundred and two million specifically for emerging and zoonotic diseases which is what this is so the trump administration budgets have been hamstring the CDC and our ability to react to circumstances just like this course budget proposals aren't always inactive your point is well taken that budget proposals don't necessarily translate into approve budgets but the effort has been there by the trump administration to reduce drastically the CDC and I think that they have succeeded to a very great degree there's been around understandably on protective masks and gloves should should people be trying to get them what's it's a it's a sign of panic that there has been around but there has been I went into my local drug store here in Bozeman Montana yesterday to see if I could buy some masks to take with me just in case when I fly to Australia on Thursday I thought well what if on the way back a typhoon re routes me through China or something so I thought I would carry some masks my local drug store was sold out of masks and that has happened a lot of places around the country is that called for I would say no despite the fact that I was one person trying to buy some is and you know an emergency travel precaution but masks particularly the simple surgical mask that you see on so many people specially travelers I hear the experts saying that those are very helpful in containing the spread of infected droplets from people who are infected containing costs containing CSE sneezes buy a sick person but much much much less effective in protecting a well person from the sneeze is coming out of another person so in other words where mask if you're sick if you're coughing as a courtesy to people around you don't be nearly as concerned about wearing a mask just as a preventive when you step on an airliner go to a big store right I think the CDC our recommends that ordinary civil citizens don't really need to worry about masks but health workout probably should I think this I think the CDC is also saying look ordinary people we have a shortage of masks let those masks be used by health care workers who need them most rather than wearing and when you go to the hardware store David common is a science writer and the author of the book spillover animal infections in the next human
"terry gross" Discussed on KQED Radio
"This is fresh air I'm Terry gross let's get back to my interview with singer and songwriter Amy Rigby her new memoir girl to city is about how she went from Catholic school girl to devoted music fan and New York punk clubs in the seventies and then found her real place in the music world writing songs and singing them herself her breakthrough was your nineteen ninety six album diary of a mod housewife when we left off we heard her song when a piece of the sky falls which she wrote when she knew her first marriage was in trouble so I love that song because it's about a deteriorating relationship you wrote another song called were stronger than that that's about a relationship that's kind of teetering but you know the singer has faith that this relationship can stay together because baby were stronger than that it's such a nice contrast how far apart and you write these two songs I'm probably within a year or even half a year of each other and I think you know how I was just saying when a piece of the sky falls I felt sure it wasn't going to work for another artist because it had that discomfort I think I purposely wrote were stronger than that because I thought I should be more positive and maybe if the song says that the people stay together maybe it will work for me too I think it not not just as a songwriter but maybe you could pep talk yourself into keeping things together did it work it didn't work it didn't feel false it felt you know because like you said and we've talked about I grew up Catholic and it really felt like marriage meant forever so what are we here we're stronger than that and this is from your solo album your first solo album diary of a mod housewife that's my M. O. D. we'll even help the keys are and when did you the strong we're strong then the and when we have a your Amy Rigby ascension order on her first solo album diary of a mod housewife in nineteen ninety six so when your first solo album diary of a mad housewife was released in nineteen ninety six you wrote a manifesto kind of manifesto to accompany it and you re printed in your new memoirs I could read for us in the memoir I left out the second half of it but this is the gist of it I've been a mod housewife since nineteen ninety three when I decided I was not going to get down on my hands and knees and scrub the bathroom floor unless I could get up on stage and sing about it I didn't want to fight about sex and laundry with my husband unless I could turn it into a song somehow going to work at a crappy job made more sense if I could look at it as research I played music for years but that was with friends for fun this is different this is about sanity what you mean by this is about sanity I'm I think by the time I was making diary of a mad housewife I was kinda just singing for my life I just was so mixed up and wanted to do right by my daughter I I didn't want to end my marriage but I just didn't know any way out that didn't involve like splitting up so I guess I was in a way working it out through writing did you feel like you were not only writing songs about the trying to say that you can write songs about the kind of things that rock songs didn't exactly celebrate in the past like sons about housework or sons with a diaper pail in lyrics even sounds about like not having sex yeah I I mean it was even as a child or young person it was a revelation to me to return a bomb back and to see that that someone could be in a magazine talking about cleaning the kitchen sink that really struck me and stayed with me and again in the eighties Joyce Maynard had her column domestic affairs and merry Cantwell wrote in vogue about cooking her kitchen and I thought it's in like this national magazine but you're allowed to talk about these humble home me things that you know maybe in the past I would have thought will is doesn't have that much value as things like that men go out and do so I I really consciously wanted to talk about that stuff in and songs and in the same way that that I read it in those writers stuff and one and I thought it would resonate with somebody and and that somebody needed to do it and say that it was okay I want to play a song that you wrote called are we ever going to have sex again this comes later this comes he recorded this in two thousand three but it's a really funny song that I think a lot of people will probably relate to and it's an example of something that can be very uncomfortable in real life it makes for a very funny song tell us about writing well and the idea came from a friend in Nashville sherry rich and she at that point was married with with a young child young younger than my daughter was at the time and so she had the idea the line are we ever going to have sex again and you know she kinda handed it off to me I got some lines flowing and we wrote this song and it always seems to strike a nerve with people so this is Amy Rigby from her two thousand three album till the wheels fall off and the song is ever gonna have sex again because in we are we going you can much can lives in ruby from her two thousand three of until the wheels fall off let's take a short break here and then we'll talk some more if you're just joining us my guest is songwriter singer Amy Rigby who now has a.
"terry gross" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"This is fresh air I'm Terry gross let's get back to our concert of original roots and rockabilly Christmas songs with JD McPherson and his band that we recorded last year after the release of their Christmas album called socks the person as a songwriter singer and guitarist socks is his fourth album of with sometimes called retro rock this next question is for the bass player Jimmy Sutton you mean one of things you do is play slap bass and I want I want you to demonstrate how that sounds for us absolutely I'll give you to my favorites is a mere combination between have a Willie Dixon and build black just turning the base into a base and a percussion instrument at the same time yeah basically yeah first time I heard slap bass was it I was real young and it was on an episode of raw hide can member who is planned for some reason my head I thought was right Clark but I don't know if he plays his bass twenty point five days where are you slapping what do you well I'm slipping over the fingerboard towards the bottom and I'm playing gut strings right here too and they tend to sound a little better than all steel strings but I'm here this is a single pull and this is a stop starting with my hand and then and then you can do all kinds of tricks great and you know some of the early rock and rollers used their base as part of the choreography list they put it under their legs are spin it around if you've done that kind of stuff on stage I used to do it all really I hate to do it all and the ice a surfeit stand on it lay on it you know it was it was just ridiculous it was a lot of fun but you know that was in my maybe my twenties teens and started my team this year this is fresh air and if you're just joining us we're doing music in our studio today and my guests are JD McPherson who is a songwriter singer and guitarist and members of his band and their new album is an album of original Christmas songs written by JD the album is called socks but we're also hearing them play some music that isn't Christmas music and that is the case not Christmas music with the next song and ask you to do which is called you believe and performing in our studio in this song will be J. D. on guitar and vocals and Jimmy Sutton on base Doug Corcoran is going to be playing baritone guitar and raises so those going to be on chimes and before here JD introduces on first tell us about the inspiration for the sun to believe we're making the last record and I had this kind of chord progression started and I worked on this with ray actually in the lyrics were written I think almost the overnight I wrote it for the next day session which is kind of a habit I have in anyway I just remember reading about some it was looking in a book about western close to have this book called how the west was worn as like fascinating to me anyway there's something I just saw the word you believe popped out and I mean wrote it right there it was really it was became that once you get this kind of spark sometimes they come really quickly I wish they always did they don't always but yeah this is jubilee but in this arguably as a person as a woman yeah okay all right can you play first from western close to song about a girl you John yeah Hey well there is yeah and may sure they yeah yeah yeah could you today we strongly five when you think of me and so so that was just a an excerpt of this under Billy yeah that was the abbreviated version right because it's very hard for us five minutes is is a very very long let's take a short break here and then we'll be back for some more music performed in our studio by JD McPherson and his band and their new album is an album of jadis Christmas songs and.
Adam Driver Walked Out in the Middle of His Interview With Terry Gross
"Do you feel that deal it. The air has changed changed. And we're now in the middle of a magical time in history. That's right Adam. Driver has somehow become one of the most famous people alive. How do I know this because it seems like? He's at the centre of different major controversy every single week. People Love Adam driver. People Hate Adam driver. I mean folks folks. This is the time to be alive. Today's Adam driver news revolves around him walking out on Terry Gross in the middle of fresh air interview that he did to promote his movie. Marriage story daily beast. Got The exclusive on this. They described the incident as follows and I quote sources at. NPR told told the daily beast. That driver walked out of an interview earlier. This month with fresh air host Terry Gross after expressing displeasure at the idea of listening to a clip of himself. Singing being alive from the musical company drivers character sings the song late. In Noah Baumbach New Netflix film marriage story and quote. Wow okay okay. So Adam driver walked out on Terry Gross. Because he didn't want to hear himself saying I mean that's kind of relatable. He also did mention before the interview. that he it doesn't watch clips of himself. Some people are calling him a diva for doing this. A lot of people are coming to Adams defense. Low calling his walking out on the interview a mental health self preservation tactic in Adam drivers October New Yorker profile. He discusses his anxiety over watching himself perform. The New Yorker wrote wrote quote. The first time driver saw himself in girls on Dunham's laptop he was mortified. That's when I was like I can't watch myself in things. I certainly can't watch this this if we're going to continue doing it. He said many actress declined to watch themselves but for driver that reluctance amounts to a phobia and quote depending on where you stand you either. Thank Adam drivers a diva shore. Like I said or you think he's someone with really intact boundaries. WHO's protecting his phobia or you don't care at all and you probably have a a really nice chill brain? That's not constantly thinking about Adam driver personally. I don't know what side of Adam drive her story. I'm on I don't know if there's a wrong or right side I mean I don't I just don't think about it. I really have to. I have to let this marinate if you are one of the people that's reluctant to make fun of Adam driver for walking out on this interview. That's totally fair. That being said surely we can all come together and make fun of Adam driver for how he used to eat. A whole rotisserie chicken back in the middle of acting class at juilliard. Right if you're behind on your Adam driver news and didn't know eater wrote about this a few days ago saying quote on an episode of the podcast. The film re Roll Drivers Juilliard Classmates Scott Yellow recalls drivers love for Rotisserie chicken to the point where he'd eat a whole one in class eater then unquote solo. WHO said quote? He would walk around school with an entire chicken in one hand and a jug of water in the other end quote. Can you just picture that a young young Adam driver walking into a black box theater with a whole chicken and a whole jug of water. I'm personally picturing the plastic jug of water that you get at the grocery store it kind of looks like it should have milk in it but it doesn't it has water and it has like the blue plastic top and listen. It's not like acting. Classes typically have desks so I'm guessing if Adam driver related eat a whole chicken in acting class he had to have eaten it on his lap the mandated chicken on his lap. Okay and we can all agree that that's funny and worth making fun of. Isn't it beautiful. How we all just came together like that I could cry?
"terry gross" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Is fresh air I'm Terry gross let's get back to my interview with Mario Heller who directed the new movie a beautiful day in the neighborhood starring Tom Hanks as Fred Rogers and Matthew Rees as a journalist assigned to profile him for esquire magazine Heller also directed the films can you ever forgive me and the diary of a teenage girl when we left off Heller and just told the story of how she and her three year old son had watched an episode of Mister Rogers neighborhood that dealt with death which was an upsetting idea for her son who would never heard about that before do you remember how you learned about tough I remember my grandmother's husband dying but I think I was older I think it was seven or eight when he died but I remember that being the first real person I knew who died and I and that my parents didn't let me go to the funeral and I remember feeling like it was really unfair you want to go I wanted to go I don't I I thought I wasn't like I felt and I think about sort of Mister Rogers and that way of like I I felt like a full person you know I felt like I was having as big of an experience as everybody else and why wasn't I allowed to go to the funeral and I think they were trying to protect me was upsetting for you to learn that such a thing existed and stuff yeah yeah I mean I yeah I was one of those kids who thought about death a lot and we had we had the big earthquake in the bay area needing on how old were you then ten mmhm but that really it scared me in like a deep dark way you know it really shook my sense of what could happen in the world it was just the first my my brother was trapped in a warehouse we couldn't get to him in the house of bread Jenna we didn't know if he was okay and you know friends of mine their parents were in San Francisco and the bay bridge collapsed and we didn't know if they were okay and that there are people who are part of our community who died in it it was just so chaotic it was just the end of the world it felt like the end of the world at the time it really depends and it it's definitely I had a high was it it's still something that has meant you know meant something in my bigger emotional life that I am still dealing with intact and you know I think back on myself as a kid and I'm like I and I see it in my kid I think that's why this experience of showing in that episode was so I felt for him so much because I I remember what it was to be the kid who was thinking about the kind of dark questions of life and while other people aren't but now you know I had this experience when I was preparing to make this movie before I went to Pittsburgh I went to a a talk at the Buddhist send center in Brooklyn and I think I had this idea in the little I really know about Buddhism or Buddha where I was thinking that somehow if you are very enlightened that you're very peaceful that year you're at peace you're sort of happy and this woman who's giving this talk said of the goal of Buddhism is not your peace or to to never feel any pain the goal is to feel all the pain and that made me think about Fred at that time because all all of all the things we were hearing in the research about Fred was that he went to emphasize such a great degree with the people he came into contact with you would need a stranger on the street and they would pour their heart out to him about what they were going through and he worked almost hold it like a vessel like he he just became this great vessel for other people to for what they were experiencing into and and I think he felt at all he was he was present in the pain of the world and not denying it and he grew up with a lot of illness I mean he was a sick child was often isolated that's how we started doing voices like forces first puppets right he was his parents were so nervous that he was going to be kidnapped Adam chauffeured to school so that he was even more isolated from his friends yeah and I think he was in his own in his own head a lot in that way but I think he also was very he spent the rest of his life therefore trying to be super connected to other people rather than being so separated from them I want to play one of Mister Rogers songs that you use in the film hi I particularly like this one it's it's it's one called what do you do with the mad that you feel and it's all it's it's a song all about learning to control yourself and your emotions get out of hand and I think this is a song that most of us adults should learn by heart to so so this is the real Fred Rogers singing at here we go.
"terry gross" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"W. H. Y. Y. in Philadelphia I'm Terry gross with fresh air today Reese Witherspoon she is an executive producer and star of the new series the morning show about a network TV morning show that shaken up when it's male anchor is fired after being accused of sexual misconduct Witherspoon has been outspoken about sexual harassment in the entertainment industry and it's something she's had to deal with two how do you decide when you want to talk about it how you want to talk about it this is just me my personal experience how can I use that not to garner sympathy but to actually promote change in her mid thirties Witherspoon became frustrated by the lack of good roles for women she started a production company where she adapts books into films and TV shows like gone girl and wild and big little lies to create more opportunities for women in front of and behind the camera first news live from NPR news in Washington I'm Wincer Johnston hospital officials in southern California say at least one person is dead following a shooting at a high school and Santa Clarita today several victims are being treated at local hospitals to are said to be in critical condition the Los Angeles county sheriff's department says the suspected gunman is in custody police responded to the shooting this morning at Saugus high school just before eight AM local time president trump is meeting with the NATO secretary general Jens Stoltenberg at the White House at this hour teri Schultz reports Stoltenberg will also attend a meeting of allies that are fighting ISIS after the US abruptly pulled troops from northern Syria NATO chief Stoltenberg always has a delicate task in Washington in during president trump's complaints about Europe slow defense spending compared with the US while trying to head off worse in the past trump has threatened not to defend other allies or even to quit NATO altogether for his efforts Stoltenberg was awarded the diplomat of the year distinction from foreign policy magazine on Tuesday Stoltenberg will meet both trump and secretary of state Mike Pompeii trying to keep messages positive ahead of a meeting of NATO leaders in London in December now French president Emmanuel a clone is also criticizing NATO as suffering brain death causing new public relations challenges for Stoltenberg for NPR news I'm teri Schultz the state department's inspector general's office is out with a long awaited report about what it calls improper personnel practices NPR's Michele Kelemen reports it describes cases of career officials being sidelined for political reasons the report describes several cases including an Iranian American who was ousted from the policy planning office by Brian hook right wing media had described the woman as a trusted Obama aide who had burrowed into the department under president trump the inspector general determined that her detail was ended because of perceived political view news and national origin and said that violate state department policies in a lengthy letter included in the report hook defended his personnel decisions and called those who wrote the inspector general's report biased the woman he sidelined said she hopes the findings will guard against further such misconduct Michele Kelemen NPR news the state department China is formally lifting a ban on US poultry products NPR's Emily thing reports Beijing is removing the ban as it moves closer to an interim trade agreement with the US US chicken imports have been blocked from China since twenty fifteen but now the US trade representative's office said in a statement today that the estimated American producers would be able to sell about one billion dollars worth of culture products to China a year open access to Chinese markets has been a key demand in trade talks and only last week the US lifted similar restrictions on Chinese poultry NPR's Emily thing on Wall Street the Dow is down forty six points this is NPR news ten candidates have qualified for next week's democratic presidential primary debate in Atlanta they include Joe Biden Cory Booker Kamilla Harris and Amy club which are the requirements for the December debate are even tougher so far only six candidates qualify former Massachusetts governor Deval Patrick is entering the race for the White House he announced his campaign for the twenty twenty democratic presidential nomination in a video this morning eighteen Democrats are seeking the party's nomination Walmart is setting a high expectations for how much Americans will shop this holiday season the company raised its forecast for the year and delivered strong results for the latest quarter NPR's Alina sell your reports that prompted a call out from president trump Walmart says more people shopped at its stores and on its website in the latest quarter and they spend more money on each order notably wal Mart's online sales grew forty one percent a big boost came from the biggest retailer expanding its online grocery ordering and delivery services Walmart is among NPR's financial supporters president trump tweeted about Walmart saying its latest earnings were great and showed no impact from terrace on the call Walmart executives said they were monitoring the ongoing terror of discussions hoping for a long term deal but they said companies that provide them products have been using quote mitigation strategies to allow Walmart to keep selling at low prices Alina so you can be our news on Wall Street the Dow was.
"terry gross" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Is fresh air I'm Terry gross let's get back to my interview with comic actor and writer Wanda Sykes her Netflix comedy special not normal is nominated for two Emmys she's been doing comedy about president trump and about being an African American and a lesbian married to a French woman they have two children you actually came out during an anti prop eight rally right came out publicly right how did you know that is a is as the opportunity to do it I didn't I don't even know that I was going to do it wasn't planned at all I was in Vegas performing and I think planet Hollywood not a show that night and there was the the national day of protest and the LGBT center in Vegas they were holding a rally so it's like Hey let's let's go let's go out and and and support and process so I get there and so you know a large crowd and the head of the the center she speak and she said you know we have someone out here who's an ally and she's bus strong voice for the community and I'm going to put on the spot so she will come up and say a few words no I'm looking around an audience they get in is drew berry more here this is pay care what's going on you know I'm looking around for the allies and this is it Wanda Sykes on my own no I'm I'm part of the family that the ally okay so I go up and it just it just was just happened and I I you know made the speech and then when I we started the the March my friends were there were there they were like you know you just came out as I huh and a light yeah as I I well I guess a date you know my wife was there and we went on with the March and then when I got home to the back to the hotel room I just got back to the hotel room I'm looking at CNN and now I'm I'm on the crawl and I was like oh boy what would I guess I did what did you say that was the official coming out I said I'm proud to be black one men and gay so once the crawl hit CNN what happened next in your life a lot of text messages my publicist called say congratulations and that she was proud of me and she said that was the perfect way to do it what else yeah a lot a lot of both just a lot of their support of phone calls and it made it took my my parents awhile to jump on board they found out or did you are to tell them no no I had already had the conversation station with them but I remember my mother specifically asking me not to do that not to the public while she was you know still alive what how do you handle that because your life is yours and there's a fight to before and you wanted to be part of it but I'm sure you also wanted to respect your mother so what do you honor do you honor like the LGBTQ movement do you honor your own sexuality do you own your wife or June suppress all that for awhile while your mother still alive in under your mother I mean it was it was hard and you know deep down deep down I look look at it as I on I am honoring my mother because I'm a product of my parents and my parents instilled these values and the strength in me and so for for me to deny who I am and to be silent then I think that that's that would be dishonoring them because that's not the person that they you know made me to be so I you know I had that conversation with them from that angle and I you know eventually they they got it and now you know we're we're so close and everything is great they're they're amazing grandparents and no I thought that thing nailed their concern is more for my safety than anything else I'm really glad to hear that things are good between thank you do you think your mother was more surprised than she might have been because you in the nineties you are married to a man for several years I think so yeah I I can see how that could be misleading the old bait and switch I didn't really did religion figure into her response when she didn't want you to come out publicly and like she was really upset that you again religion is it's you know grounded and everything that they do so absolutely yeah did you go to church a lot when you were young yes yes when I was young when you're you know teenage years it was a one point when they we we we had just moved and I found a church before they they date and so I was you know so I got them to go back to church at I still I still go to church not that often but there's a church that I love and and Los Angeles and is so when I'm you know when I'm in LA and I try to make it there you know I I read the the Bible and and more more more so spiritual writings and stuff like that so yeah I you know I I leave with with love yeah no I'm at doesn't mean I'm a full for Marianne Williamson but she makes some great points to make although she did that she was going to write a check so I don't know let's check some pretty good the reparations check out now let's take a short break here and then we'll talk some more if you're just joining us I guess this comic and actor and writer Wanda Sykes and her latest variety special Wanda Sykes not normal is nominated for two Emmys for outstanding variety series and outstanding writing for a variety series we'll be right back this is fresh AIR support for NPR comes from this station and from Scribner publisher of ask again yes Mary Beth Keane's novel about two families linked by faith forgiveness and abiding love available in bookstores and online and from western hotels and.
"terry gross" Discussed on WNYC 93.9 FM
"This is fresh air I'm Terry gross let's get back to my interview with comic actor and writer Wanda Sykes her Netflix comedy special not normal is nominated for two Emmys she's been doing comedy about president trump and about being an African American and a lesbian married to a French woman they have two children you actually came out during an anti prop eight rally right came out publicly right how did you know that is a is as the opportunity to do it well I didn't I don't even know that I was going to do it wasn't planned at all I was in Vegas performing at I think planet Hollywood not a show that night and there was the the national day of protest and the LGBT center in Vegas they were holding a rally so it's like Hey let's let's go let's go out and and and support and process so I get there and so you know a large crowd and the head of the the center she speak and she said you know we have someone out here who's an ally and she's also a strong voice for the community and I'm going to put on the spot see she will come up and say a few words no I'm looking around an audience they get in is drew berry more here this is pay care what's going on you know I'm looking around for the allies and this is it Wanda Sykes on my own no I'm I'm part of the family that the ally okay so I go up and it just it just was just happened and I I you know made the speech and then when I we started the the March my friends were there were there they were like you know you just came out as I huh and a light yeah as I I well I guess the dead you know my wife was there and we went on with the March and then when I got home to the back to the hotel room I just got back to the hotel room I'm looking at CNN and now I'm I'm on the crawl and I was like oh boy what would I guess I did what did you say that was the official coming out I said I'm proud to be black one men and gay so once the crawl had CNN what happened next in your life a lot of text messages my publicist called say congratulations and that she was proud of me and she said that was the perfect way to do it what else yeah a lot a lot of both just a lot of their support of phone calls and it made it took my my parents awhile to jump on board give it is that how they found out or did you are to tell them no no I had already had the conversation station with them but I remember my mother specifically asking me not to do that not to the public while she was you know still alive what what how do you handle that because your life is yours and there's a fight to be fought and you wanted to be part of it but I'm sure you also wanted to respect your mother so what do you honor do you honor like the LGBTQ movement do you honor your own sexuality do you own your wife or June suppress all that for a while while your mother still alive in under your mother some I mean it was it was hard and you know deep down deep down I look look at it as I on I am honoring my mother because I'm a product of my parents and my parents instilled these values and the strength in me and so for for me to deny who I am and to be silent then I think that that's that would be dishonoring them because that's not the person that they you know made me to be so I you know I had that conversation with them from that angle and I you know eventually they they got it and now you know we're we're so close and everything is great they're they're amazing grandparents and no I at that thing nailed their concern is more for my safety than anything else I'm really glad to hear that things are good between thank you do you think your mother was more surprised than she might have been because you in the nineties you are married to a man for several years I think so yeah I I can see how that could be misleading the old bait and switch I didn't really did religion figure into her response when she didn't want you to come out publicly and when she was really upset that you again religion is at its you know grounded and everything that they do so absolutely yeah did you go to church a lot when you were young yes yes when I was young when you're you know teenage years there was a one point win they we we had we had just moved and I found a church before they they did and so I was you know so I got them to go back to church at I still I still go to church not that often but there's a church that I love and and Los Angeles and SO when I'm you know what I'm in LA and I try to make it there you know I I read the the Bible and and more more more so spiritual writings and stuff like that so yeah I you know I I leave with with love that's not no I'm at doesn't mean I'm a full for Marion Williams some but she makes a great point to make although she did say she was going to write a check so I don't know that check some pretty good reparations check out now let's take a short break here and then we'll talk some more if you're just joining us I guess this comic and actor and writer Wanda Sykes and her latest variety special Wanda Sykes not normal is nominated for two Emmys for outstanding variety series and outstanding writing for a variety series we'll be.
The Apollo 11 Moon Landing, 50 Years Later
"Tomorrow is the fiftieth anniversary of man's first steps on the moon courtesy of the NASA Apollo eleven mission which remains the most astounding and most viewed moment in the history of television today fresh air is noting that anniversary by listening to interviews with astronauts and test pilots during this hour we'll speak with pioneering test pilot Chuck Yeager one of this century's astronauts Chris Hadfield and the first American in space Alan Shephard and we'll start with one of the astronauts from that Apollo eleven moon mission fifty years ago Michael comes well Neil Armstrong and buzz Aldrin walked on the moon on July twentieth nineteen sixty nine Michael Collins was orbiting in the Apollo eleven command capsule waiting to take Armstrong and Aldrin back to earth three years before that Collins pie with a German I ten and walked in space attached to a spacecraft only by a high tech umbilical cord Michael Collins wrote an autobiography then wrote a book called lift off about the US space program lance when Terry gross spoke with Michael Collins in nineteen eighty eight she asked him about the very start of the Apollo eleven moon mission back in July nineteen sixty nine when you were strapped down in July of nineteen sixty nine waiting to head for the moon and you heard the countdown what were you thinking about when you heard the countdown I
"terry gross" Discussed on KQED Radio
"This is fresh air I'm Terry gross let's get back to my interview with singer and rapper at Liz though her new album is called because I love you prince became a fan when she was living and performing in Minneapolis and she recorded a track for his album plectrum electrum with third eye girl she began rapping when she lived in Houston Texas where she moved to from Detroit when she was nine so you grew up in Detroit what music did you grow up with in Detroit I grew up with a lot of gospel music I remember we would listen to a perfect and praises over and over and over that was the Marvin Winans of family album and they would always come out with family albums and we would just listen so that like it was strictly gospel I didn't really listen to secular music or like radio music but mind you I was still very very young but it it shaped who I am today on stage like you get a lot of Hallelujah moments from me and that's from Detroit and growing up in the coach at church which the church of god in Christ which is co Jake so when you weren't listening to secular music was that because of their church did your parents not want secular music in the house I mean well you know was the devil so my parents so the funny thing is is you know my sister and my brother who are older than me they remembered different things like my dad he really loved Elton John and my mom love Stevie Wonder so you know we would have those types of things hall and Oates you know queen my dad loved queen so like those things would filter in here and there well for the most part you know we tried to listen to gospel music music makes people feel things and it made me feel things in church that I knew that I could I could bring to my music you know I'm trying to say so like for instance there was something about the way that the the the on was it because like a revival song gore shout music shop music is when the drummers are going off and the bases I do no no no no no you know and then at that point everybody just running around the church and everyone shall in like that reaction that visceral physical reaction that you see in people that's driven by the music like the pastor talking can make you say a man all day but there's something about that driving music that makes you want to get out you'll see a run and I knew that music has the power to move people physically even emotionally but especially physically so I don't think it's just because we're talking about Jesus because even in those bass lines the bass lines I talk about Jesus the baseline is running and it takes you to god everything you don't understand is just our vessel and so I want to use my music as a vessel to get you where you need to go to a positive place okay so I'm gonna play a song that I think really gets you moving the lyrics are very not spiritual literally there more profane and and I want I want to play boys this transition it's all right let's go take this thing again and in terms of believing in your music I think this succeeds yeah I will say that this song live out of all the other songs get the people stomping so if you're ready to start okay as boys and I know it's it's quite a segue for we're talking about but I see it is connected to tackle bit about writing this boys is the song that almost never happens I remember boys our role like back during the coconut oil days and I would be around twenty sixteen twenty fifteen sixteen and I remember back then I wasn't really as much as a player as I am now and I wasn't getting as much I was actually living those words I was saying you know I was hopeful and I was and now when I wanted to be there but I wasn't quite there and I remember we kind of just put that song on the back burner it had a completely different be in all of that and then when like fast forward a few years later I'm sitting in a meeting with my manager and I was like we were like looking for a song like we just I was playing a Mahdi's songs I've been working on and they were like these are okay and I. D. I went I went deep into my email and I was like only played in this one is just right right and I play them boys and they just started laughing and giggling and moving and I was like oh yeah I like this one so we went in the studio and we've finished her and the song I'm so proud of and that just goes to show you that like you know it doesn't matter when you made something like that song can come back and change your life so this is boys and was released first as a single but it's an extra on the would would like expanded version of you know unless I love you the deluxe version okay so here's was a.
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Review: Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj
"Mission in Saudi Arabia. This is the official military document. You get it describes the Saudi people as indigenous tribes with some later mixture of negro blood from slaves imported from Africa. Oh, America, even boring technical manuals, you still somehow manage to be raised. This. This is still on the internet you guys, but a son, you know, it was probably written a while ago. Really? It was updated June twenty but has done these things are like an itunes user agreement. It's at the bottom. It's chapter one page five. Okay. But as negro still a bad word, dictionary dot com offensive after that program. Aired the American military subsequently apologized for that language and removed the entire sixty-nine page booklet from the internet Monagas parents are Muslim immigrants from India. Last year, he hosted the White House correspondents dinner the first one under the presidency of Donald Trump who breaking with tradition did not attend before hosting this new series Hassan. Manashe did a comedy special on Netflix called homecoming king? That's when Terry gross spoke with him about his family background growing up in California, the son of immigrants, she started with a clip in which he's telling the story of the anonymous threatening phone call his family received at home right after nine eleven just after the phone, call the windows on the family car were shattered Hassan went out into the street to see if he could find who did it. I look back in the middle of the street my dad's in the. The middle of the road sweeping glass out of the road. Like he works at like a hate crime barbershop. Like Muslim was anger. We gotta clean this zen Brown. Mr. Miaki, just like not saying a word I run up to my dad. Why aren't you saying something I've known ask you say something? He looks at me. And he goes I sent. Us at the whole thing. Wing it. These things happen in these things will continue to happen. That's the price we pay for being. And that's when I was like on, oh, we really are from two different generations like BMX bikes aside. My dad's from not generation like a lot of immigrants really feels like if you come to this country, you pay this thing like the American dream tax, right? Like, you're going to endorse them racism. And if it doesn't cost you your life. Well, hey, you lucked out pay it. There you go. San but
Donald Trump, NPR and Washington discussed on Fresh Air
"Air I'm David Cooley in for. Terry gross today we continue our series of EMMY nominees Alec Baldwin who's been. Nominated for his portrayal of Donald Trump on Saturday. Night Live tells us how he created his Trump. Impression I, always say the same stupid thing, to myself I say left eyebrow up right eyebrow down stick your mouth at as far as you can try to bite. Somebody's nose off and kind. Of growl with that irritability he's also written a memoir he fell in love with movies by watching. Old black and white films. On TV with his parents I watched track fifty times listen to. Them children of the night what the music they make we'll also hear from Brian Tyree Henry who's been nominated for an EMMY for his, role as rapper paper boy on the. FX series Atlanta
Tab Hunter, Star of Damn Yankees!, Dead at 86
"Tab hunter had a pop hit in nineteen fifty seven with this song young love it was at the height of his fame and while he had no dramatic training he acted in dozens of movies including the world war two drama battlecry the burning hills a western with natalie wood and the pleasure of his company a romantic comedy with fred astaire and debbie reynolds he also starred in the movie version of the musical damn yankees the story of a baseball player who sold his soul to the devil but his greatest role during those years was simply playing tab hunter he was known as arthur galina before he took that screen name and for years while he would hollywood's leading ladies he hid the fact that he was gay hunter told terry gross on whyy's fresh air that at that time he didn't mind i was a young white eyed kid thrown into the studio system and starring in motion pictures and i loved it i mean god what what young man wouldn't love all that stuff tab hunter made an unlikely comeback in the nineteen eighties he co starred with drag queen divine in john waters film polyester the role parodied has earlier onscreen image he played a love scene with divide and that was a really brave and wonderful thing that have did and revitalized his career that's jeffrey schwartz who made a feature length documentary called tab hunter confidential it was based on hunter's two thousand six memoir the first time he publicly came out is gay and the name tab hunter jeffrey schwartz says talent agent henry willson came up with it when hunter started working in hollywood henry said well we have to have you something that's how the first name came in and then taboo a lover of horses henry said well you you love horses and you love hunters and jumpers so let's call you tab hunter instead of tab jumper tab hunter died yesterday from cardiac arrest producer allan glaser his partner of thirty years said his death was sudden and unexpected tab hunter was eighty six.
Take that, America. Europe's tariffs take effect
"More today to sell products like orange juice and motorboats to customers in europe npr's dustin dwyer reports the u has if officially imposed tariffs on us made products worth more than three billion dollars this is the second major round of retaliatory tariffs to take affect against the united states in what's fast becoming an all out trade war the first came from mexico earlier this month tariffs from canada are set to take effect next month the eu canada and mexico are all responding to tariffs on aluminum and steel imposed on them by the united states on june first house republicans say of haute on a compromise immigration bill won't come until next week but representative michael mccall chair of the homeland security committee says thursday's meetings dig yield progress productive member i didn't quite understand what was bill is fairly rushed process and now the members and they have veteran shane what's in this bill in the mccoll bill and also we heard from the numbers about the things they went to see in meanwhile virginia's governor has ordered state officials to investigate claims by immigrant teens that they were severely abused at the shannon doa juvenile detention facility the centers attorneys deny the allegations this is npr on the next fresh air the secret doomsday plans in case of nuclear attack to maintain the continuity of government we talked with garrett graff author of the book raven rock the story of the us government secret plan to save itself while the rest of us die it's now out in paperback join us you can join terry gross fresh air at one o'clock and then again at seven o'clock here on k q e d public radio.