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What are our favourite Subway Orders

THE LOWKEY PODCAST

1:12:34 hr | 2 months ago

What are our favourite Subway Orders

"Hello welcome to the first episode of low keys podcast with your host of fluffy dinosaur. I'm joined with sean and jaden my autumn. My god popping. God's our lives. Livestreaming what are you talking about. Meant to be live. Where the hell do you think life. She lists podcast though. It of podcast is kasama buddy. We've that's actually funny me. He thought he thought podcast live. Brothers kid radio stations on the alive like you see online is think russia you just leave. We'll be back to you when decides to come back well as you can see. We have bravo men on the screen from Ego that is sean. This topic guys. You playing video games in now. How can we use is like guys actually. Why video games. He's talking about okay. Well guys vest topic. Oh okay okay. So cringe. birth wind chips with stick chips. Best fries obviously some saying phrases overseas superior. This coach upset For us you know you don't pull them patel dallas hardships brian. You just call them. 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I'm going to say what realize one day you'll realize one day it probably doesn't work in the senate appeasing right now. The econ- is that's not like voice. Changes like no deeping tang with the baton wall going to break my morning. I swore i swore. See that we're gonna break. My mortal is four swazi. Close john like shawna's cnn china's no way he'd seen it. I've know any idea i'll pay. The guys actually liked crispy cream. Also right yes. Love the guess. S rated really ushering. It's underrated what crispy creams underrated. St with you all the way by knowledge you're saying that you think crispy creams overrated over and over in it. It's good it's good. It's the best on good but dunkin donuts yukon. Lie onto this question and right answer you better get a correct best. Krispy kreme original glides. Okay you guys passed the test cast. It's simple if you get that wrong. Done only one time. I even even the cream cold onto kind of you know the all the evidence yes much bonds funds one way. What cream buns cream buns cream buns physically bucks. Okay let's go train in my crispy creams rate. Okay we're gonna break this down many sections this okay. Okay i think best fast food in your opinion. Okay so subway could including the whole world chick-fil-a all. Yeah actually no you're right. I remember that one spicy chicken boy. Oh boy that's that's that's that's elite right the way okay. How about just what you live like. No you live blake tomato tomato like you can get it like kind of like you can get like the subway. It's knee fostered like that's okay. Yeah let me give me the proper definition okay. The official oxted definition do not her dumb x.'s. Easily prepared process foods served in snack bars and restaurants as a quick meal ought to be taken away. You know probably know. Now you know milad. There's no way you know him figured but yeah just fast food. Easily prepared. Posted speed said in snack. Bars and restaurants is click meal of the takeaway so subway in oxford dictionary. Yes does all. The nando does does dan nana's fast buffy. That's that's what i was thinking. I don't know 'cause like proper stuff's a we'd talk. I've talked about the mireille. Saying i have not had i think when We have used the you went to american. You having a nine of consider fast food. Let's see specialized. I know that it. It's not it's not a fall through. It takes more than five minutes to prepare. That's true that's all that's All the time is not foster even if we think about it they just like enough acid sometimes. See that being sauce. I is it though. Benny chick-fil-a lytham lit de area. In your centers probably software talkable. Just gonna say subway so jay. Okay so. I have a mcdonald's like somewhere around mcdonald's or right yeah he said subway some students subway. Don't blaming nobody how god no i saw. I'm just gonna say anything. I just gonna keep quiet. You guys can do hear it. I wanna make hundred. I don't know. I i don't do just chuck everything on avishai if you need is your choices okay. White bread wack. That's that's how you italian golic which everyone that shot. Okay sean said okay it. If i don't know why by four foot you're going to say wheat bread bread. I'm sorry crazed severi i just do this tin veggie terry and that's okay everything except beetroot done. That's this year late. lay a few. You only get like five hundred. Okay wait okay. Okay subset because what brent what brady tonkin either one that we onion sauce is good. Mayo's classic both subways males different. Like it's different. It's different for normal mayo. And it's amazing. Yeah can agree even had subway missing. Try it please. Like it's goaded on him sticks. Yeah you really really actually have to go to come on shown what so you get. It turned cheese then. But then omega sean tariff okay. My have judgy okay. Continue and then i'll actually. I don't actually get i get that. I get veg because normally better -tarian from time to to contain. We've i'm not here. No no cap way you go that just get vegetables. Sometimes they're selling stop bread. Mega-boom lls basically bought bought. Okay okay okay normal. Okay i my okay. It's hot topic the chicken okay. Chicken of the different ticket okay. Chicken terrier happy right walk and you'd be like when they come to that of what would you like to be lightning now. Everything except be troops chocolate alone that they take like twenty deep like olives and stuff on it. yeah but lived. I put pickles. Alabama's everything like you're kidding not. I'm not even kidding jane you. You're wasting your money by not putting after that's saying your case good. It tastes right. Coz honestly i'm just going to say i hail is olive. Sola knocking hide. I do take out olives. Because i understand kind of but like okay. How we know you'll weird. You got have the most faisi. Just the best thing you've ever had. But you have chickens different story. It's a different story when kingston is of course. Yeah we don't have a law. that's sad. yeah. I think the main thing so chuck everything until chicken sits over thinking about teriyaki chicken. You can check to different share. I taught us prolonged teriyaki chicken. Not really okay random tanks you know all right all of this because and jalapeno gelatin knows whatever ontario key chicken. Yeah think naaman all lives on teriyaki chicken. Do you guys a teriyaki. Chicken just taken. It all lives way. Hold up throw them saying lake. Well i think what what's yours. I actually king. Oil is the subway. Pro occa- stay in being state subway. Okay so i. I've ever tried. Italian harrison was but it gives me the hebrew. Db's okay with that. You're you're just not try to talk to you. Know she posted a message him. I'm gonna message him be. The main thing has details yes yes. Of course yes. Okay good okay. You put like all of this pickles and like jalapeno giannattasio things much cheese. He's exactly you could shut. Didn't finish your hold on. Okay okay so okay. Italian hudson cheese kitchen vegetable beetroot. And then sometimes all sometime okay and then. What else cheese melted. You'd be like aqueducts guess open and then close and then and then you put this on sweet onion. So's then you get obviously gonna chocolate chip cookie and macadamia cookie. Both good and they lacked damian. Yes it's actually match the white chocolate actor there. It's back off no share share. We share the to the family. I mean they have you. And i never had one chuck schumer says good like you know like. Let's say hey chuck. Your name's chuck. I know i know. That's obviously that's like the best one of the team. You haven't had it you gotta get. It hasn't added yet. He can't say yeah. I relied okay. L. acting again. I thought the exact same thing. When i when when they first ordered and then as i be in tired and it was not all reliable yet you get into your day. It'd be like the baby like every every day when you in quarantine you like. Subway is that the you're wasn't it. Thanks mushed a pizza place where you get your concerns around here. He he this off then an escape all done this. Okay so itself. Okay so you go to have the italian and cheese gone applying to respect that. Check your bet on the beat you okay anyway and then the order is what was it a lettuce kyoto book carrots and then and then mayo so pepe chica so she is tickets. This year she's so a herbs and cheese chicken chose header hosted yup. Take out you put the lettuce carrot lettuce cover. Lettuce is on every sub. I'm yet so i it. This is like every sub. Vote on your song ever taught in a bag. It wasn't a bag okay. I don't want to hear last time. I saw it was in a bag. Goes in a guy like the the person squeezes it out and put it on now like the bag right and in the go green with Guacamole is like our low holy cake like piper's that kind of and then they have guacamole and they're like i need combination have santa's game by the way vegetable thing. It was good to vegetation boots. I kid you monitor to sell it. Come on that's true. Doesn't that so bland. Owning like every vegetable was chicken taste crap anyways. An amazing it's actually state it's not even capping. It's fake trigger is that they've been like once or twice. It's been like like every like once or twice sub. And in that way. Since i need i need to know quick assistance. Like depends along always belong. I've never i. I'm dick singe. If i'm literally having a snack snack. Ius snack full snack. Six long go for like you've never had it for breakfast right lake. She'll even have hit wherever you're going to have it for dinner like has the has the whole fam- ever roughed up to subway or just call a subway and like you had dinner like malacca okay nuts it's a like bowling or something and like you get it like oh new to sign on your now. This is just heard this. I've heard of this win aware. But i heard of this really let during homeschooling ashanti. How far is it for you. it's for me. it's like five minutes no no way. What is it is it like. An actual subway didn't look a shopping's like a movie. It's kind of a shopping. Climb soda may be inside. They known as a mole. So we kind like. I mean we can't go in work in like they wreck in like seeing about pizza pizza. Place de get from okay. It depends it depends depends on which branche. They'll make kind of different. I i think. I know say okay. What's yours one. But if not if not the local one it's dumb. I respect that film file. You know we've had we had domino's like so okay. Okay okay. If you know you know then it wants mama's pizza if you know ma. Chicken mama to like the nandy special mars pizza. Yeah of course you know the nandi special right. Yeah that's the best one any special. That's like say that's basically the vegetarian subway. Then that's mandy specials only vegetarian. That's normally noble la. That's normal lot than bloody getting on the subway city. You say vegetarian pizza is no ma then a vegetarian sandwich. Yes sean. Sandwich is usually consists of vegetables and pizzas. Most of the time doesn't consist of vegetables. Yes it does. You're you're getting vegetables. Unlike a thick like a like a bread a you'll get a bunch of vegetables like nothing else chabosy source neat way way way. Wait you said he'd toasted your thing right. You toast the year wait wait. Am i missing something here. What you get the bread you toast that you take it out and you put the vegetables. Yeah played read. No way way way. She's melt that so you don't have mentioned she's you think okay so. The person cuts the bread. They open it and then they put cheese on it in the oven. She's is on the bread. Yeah oh no oh no. That's how it is for everything except the schnitzel is it after let's i. Yeah i've yummy deals. I've worked yourself. I don't wanna hear it and he's not you watch them do you watch se then like a commentary. While they're making the subway now owned by that this is milad each yuba all that cemented brought a bunch of like a law a lot and he made like that really j. subway one time on everything on for his like He got like a milestone play. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah yeah i might. You don't have much of washington fake how much you watch youtube in general out here. Okay i get it from a local place. So we got some domino's a lot. Emma dad's up to like it so then What are you going to know because we got it so much like every single time little you can broke the whole life flow right there. I hope he them the whole flow. Just is it possible. You ain't doing it. This guy gag industry. Rag is actually don't know who she wagons. That's sad though she with so good chain like that was actually like we try out. Try you know we can. I don't even know he talked to. Not you know fine you get. Do you get pizza. Yeah that's kinda sad that's had one of the one times we got it. They put the chief on one half of pizza and then they had cheese early holiday at duffy. Okay that's that's doubt experiencing pizza hut. Okay your experience with kfc talk pets. That is what i thought even glove. Kfc lay. i didn't do it. I felt like i didn't even like love. Heff say it's the big america i'd say. They closed their sell out of the sandwiches. San juan dude fascinating. Then wait until you see his face the sandwiches okay show team but like a messaging of our messaging law. She's watching this whole podcast. 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Okay all right now might okay. It was on schist onto. Everyone would advance auto. Oh well the whole over the phone. Guys caving searching willow. Can't boys this is. This is a good song. Let me do make taylor swift. Yes exactly what it looked. It's this man Taylor swift underrated too. You can back me up. Underrated listen to it. It's under you listen to. It is operated kagan july disco. Why god been happening. What do you mean is fixed once again. Let's what do you mean. What do you mean it underrated. It's two hundred thirty million plays. That's nothing it's one fifth most popular song head raw. Well again. The radio station radio station full. I'm going to ask though thing on his phone. What what do you want me to have. Live is a willow and you know there's people that get copyrighted facility. Yeah jay okay accurate way. They might just good way going. Go on discord. It might be understood what. I think the maid what does it. It's it's a game of my doing or you send me okay. 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You're actually in the wrong place if you think you guys like different type of thing that's but this is actually insane though. This is like the one way you listen to it. Like twenty million times gets boring notes. Not right now. You're sending ninety percent of the world you seen ninety nine percent of the world knows what taylor so yes no. That doesn't like that so often. it's all right. I don't like it exactly. everyone else. Loves it the only one that doesn't love and hamish great. But i know something i don't love it. It's just that roy. It is what it is. It is what sandwich sandwich go back off. Mushy has responded. Let me be subway. Order toasted bread. Okay one of us Leepo marinara sauce. You're that's gonna let though i've been. I've been tried it. It's like common though. I feel like i'm not gonna like it all not. He just gave me a thought. I'll come up to that later. Okay so Posted bed nipple. Marinara sauce lettuce dipoto sauce. I respect to ask you got onions. 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Bog only magherita. Everything else is kind of a fee but like in my rita pizzas. That's actually my favorite place. I'm just gonna say now that's goaded. Wha- what i have speaking probably speeches is basically the same token come and get. Do you guys like what's flavor. What's the best flavor. Let's go to petrides. Yeah he yeah. I actually like it. I'm just gonna say it like. I don't think if it's done right. It's good if it's done plug. Budget axiom. I think it belongs on pizza. I'm gonna say it. okay hamish. Listen to this fool. Song i sent. That's literally your son right there in debate nick lakes. I listened to a whole like playoffs gunslinger. Otake it's walk. It has no account and then she hassled if letourneau of him know. I'm actually i'm actually. I'm actually did we talk about. I'm actually. I'm actually getting to get it out. That's why did he hear the most. Did he'll bit now. It's literally better than that others. You didn't even hear all of the back. Me up is the son. 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The Legal Battle for 16,000 Pages - S2 E9

"At the time of this recording jennifer kesse has been missing for nearly fifteen years. Her thirty ninth birthday was may twenty fourth. There's no telling what jennifer would have accomplished all these years in between. She might have had children of her own and a house perhaps risen high up in a company or created her own business. Maybe she'd have traveled the country as she had draft anything was possible for gen but these milestones were stolen along with jennifer never to be realized while the orlando police department insists. John's case is still active. Multiple sources claim that very little if anything has been investigated in the last seven years with no answers about their daughter's whereabouts. The qaissi family decided to do something that i've never seen done before. In the case of a missing person they sued the orlando police department for all the records on jennifer case so they could become the lead detectives in their own daughter's disappearance. Why did you sue the orlando police department. And why did you want all jen's records. We were step in step with them the whole way we felt we were true teen right up to when we sued them. But i guess your ten nothing was happening. We were going every single day. I'm direction nothing's happening so we asked him. Let us read the wreckers. Let us come in effect. What you crazy get out of here. We're like okay. Let a pi of ours come in read only is only. We're not giving their best. This would set precedent. Were not letting anyone. It's an open and active case and no one gets and they still insisted that it was open and active. The kassy's legal battle might never have come to be if not for the two nasty of a man named paul cisco christina could be sitting in his law office in downtown tampa. Paul tells me how it all started. I can tell you this. I'm constantly interested by this case. You know this is one of these ones where you to the point where my wife says you need to quit thinking about that case and that happens every once in a while but it also is what makes good so when and how did you get involved in the jennifer kesse case. It was over a very good mexican meal actually a friend of mine who was a longtime investigator. He introduced me to a gentleman. By the name of michael terada. My friend who was retiring was retired. Irs cid's the criminal side of the irs of fed. Michael was a former. Da officer right in new york and down here also two very different sort of federal agencies but michael came highly recommended to me and i liked michael immediately and michael told me about this case and the family and i had one thing about florida. That's weird is orlando and tampa are very insular and separated from each other. So i had kind of heard of this case. Because jennifer went to tampa high school went to high school in north tampa. I say but. I don't think a lot of the folks in tampa new the case right away so i was reminded by michael all these years later. Now this was about twenty eighteen early twenty eighteen that the family was interested in doing what they could do to see if they can obtain the police file. Whether it'd be a homicide file it certainly was a missing persons file and it was voluminous. From what we understood. We ended up suing the city of orlando and the police chief to get this file and the essence of the litigation which is kind of unique in florida is if you can demonstrate. That case cases not active. You can sue to get that file. It's the burden of the plaintiff to show that it's not active anymore. It doesn't happen very often. It's a pretty rare situation. What led the kassy's to want to sue. I gotta tell you that the parents and brother logan are a force of nature. And i think that they believe that the primary way. They're going to find out what happened. And ultimately potentially perhaps prosecute someone if foul plays involved which it appears to have been is to keep it in the news and so it's a compelling story in and of itself and the kassy's i think got to the point where even though they were being told the case was still being worked on. They were not seeing that. It was still being worked on and very early. On in those fourteen years the family had far greater knowledge of the facts and the moving pieces in this case then they believe law enforcement had and they said look and it was never malicious type thing. It was always. We have to find out what happened to our sister and daughter and they wanted the files and they sought legal advice on how best to get them and so it was just the next piece to keep the case moving. What were your first impressions of this case when you read all of the facts that when the facts initially hit the family immediately knew it was real urgency and a tragedy and when you saw it on paper and you watched how the media reacted to it. There was not that urgency in those first forty eight hours that were commensurate with what the kassy's were feeling their instincts. Were right once. They found that car. You know forty eight hours after the disappearance that really put a catalyst in the case from law enforcement standpoint also and that's you know in my experience that's where the devil in the details as paul's legal credentials are impressive. He's a former state. Prosecutor turned private defense lawyer handling mostly white collar criminal defense involving healthcare so the jennifer kesse case was a challenge even for someone skilled as paul suing for records is such a specialized area of law. Paul enlisted the help of lawyer. Michael cast based on his experience handling other public record. Squeezes two thousand eighteen paul cisco. Who's the other attorney contacted me. I had had some other public. Records case that we're not high profile national the profile for orlando area. And he'd known. I'd done that before and so he said hey. Is this something you'd be interested in doing. We're trying to get the records here. And it's a very niche area. The law not a lot of people do it and so he said that. And i said sure you know i'd be happy to help out with this. It was an interesting case because unlike other ones it wasn't like they were saying. No we don't have the records. It wasn't saying we're not going to produce them. It was more we've got an exemption here it's a blanket. Exemption that basically lasts forever and that didn't seem right. It's certainly didn't seem right when i looked at the statute said no. That's not quite what the statute says. There is an exemption in florida law. That says public records are not available if there is an active ongoing investigation criminal. Investigative information can be withheld as long as an investigation is considered active. But how long is too long pure speculation. I mean. I was a prosecutor but i was not a police officer. My assumption is if the give the records. Then they're setting a precedent they don't wanna set and so they're saying listen. We're just gonna make a blanket statement and say no records and that way we don't have to get into this area of has it been too long time to give the records and it's much easier to have a bright line than to have that greyer but the truth is the law requires that if it is not an active investigation. The law is very clear. They cannot withhold the records and the reason for that is pretty clear as well if it's not active if you're leads cold then why are you holding onto them. Why are you not giving someone else a chance. Why are you not doing those records out. It makes sense at the beginning investigation if you get some weeds. You don't necessarily want everyone to know we'll be back after this short break new from the fox news podcast network a look back at the two thousand election. I will work for you every day. And i will never let you down fox. News presents election rewind two thousand. Give me the opportunity to lead. This nation. And i will lead subscribe now at fox news. Podcasts dot com. Did you hear the news and now you can with instant updates from fox news for amazon alexa. Just say alexa. Play news fox in fox news. It's the latest when you need it on demand from fox news and amazon alexa for the kassy's who sued in december. Two thousand eighteen thirteen years was long enough. It was an uphill legal battle that took more than a year and more than eighteen thousand dollars. At the kassy's money in the end they won shannon. Butler broke the story this morning. Jennifer cathy's parents have won a years long fight to get access to their daughters police case file shannon butler who you met earlier in this podcast is still on the case but now reporter with w. f. t. this settlement just signed we'll have orlando police turning over all of their files and walking away from the mystery it will take months. Maybe even years to figure out what happened but they know they may never know but for now they have hoped that the right clue as hidden in those files somewhere. We're fighting for our daughter jennifer and we'll do anything when you have walked through the miss steps mistakes lies the next logical thing to do is say. I think we can do it better. I don't think they're doing anything right. Now other dem lips took a thing went after those files because we found out that they weren't doing the cassie start receiving files from the orlando police department but the pages are heavily redacted. What point did you start getting these files from pd. in march of twenty nineteen. We reached a settlement agreement with them. Where the cassie family paid. The cost of the production and the time taken essentially four two full time employees at the city to go through the entire file make the legal redaction and produce it to us and when you say legal reductions what are we talking about under florida law. They are prohibited by law. In fact it's a felony to turn over certain information to us. They can't just say. Hey guys there's eighteen banker's boxes have out on. Go make copies. They have to be reviewed page by page and produced to us and as part of the agreement. They had to certify that they were voting to fulltime employees to that and they begin providing us for lack of a better word on the civil world. we'd say productions but tranches documents started coming to us digitally at that point. You know we we get three or four thousand documents at a time so as those were coming in every two weeks we also have to go through the process of reviewing those and so on and we thought initially and in fact it appears to a large extent there were some overreactions. Drew did not hold back about his frustration. It turns out that in the end. Opd agrees through contract. They're going to give it to us on great they give us the first set which holly was about fifty thousand page. Maybe forty thousand pages and their lights records of the way redacted Don't take us as fools on telling you who. Don't mess with us you know so. We're back in court in said okay. Okay we actually started work before you paid us. You're eighteen thousand dollars to get the digital and that's what we sent you so now we have to go back through what we already did. Unredacted things but still redecked out what we need to which is social security numbers and cic information and. I think it's telephone number something like that. It's a year and three months. Now that we're still fighting on redacted pages. And i guess about four months ago out of nowhere on some other media had approached. Chief said you now have you given everything to the kassy's and he said yes. I believe we have an. He called that media person and me the next day said. Hey you know. I went back and checked in. There's a whole bunch of leads. We didn't give you great so you don't even know what you have. Everything is just incredibly like fighting tooth and nail for us not to have the information that the agreed to give us. So we still don't have certification which is what they have to do. They have to certify if they gave us all the fires and they can't do that yet. I asked orlando police. Chief orlando rely on about jennifer's records. He became chief one year before. The kassy's filed their lawsuit. The police records at the see family sought legal action to obtain are all the records in their possession. Now most of the records are records. That could not be released but also records have been released to them. Why were there. Some records couldn't be released. You were responsible for vetting. The request and after consulting with the lead investigator there were certain information of investigative value that they had to keep and maintain but reset will be able to speak by by. That is chief for lawn. Referred us to kern investigator theresa's for answers to a number of questions we directed at him. We reached out for an interview with frog multiple times and we were denied a request by opd meteorology ones. The kassy's now have ninety five percent of the records. That's more than sixteen thousand pages and over sixty hours visual tapes. The files raised serious concerns. The kassy's and their legal team long way of saying there are things in that file that bother me what. The documents reveal is what i thought they would reveal which is overtime police. Agencies changed dramatically leadership changes dramatically particularly people at the top of the detective. You know hierarchy in this generally wanna put your homicide or your you know your foul plan vaulting missing persons right at the top of that. They work their way through property and all that and they get those people change over fourteen years dramatically and so oftentimes what happens is you don't have that file per se. You know you don't have the person who's invested the way drew. Cassie is every night or joyce. Cassie wayne for their daughter. You know to come home. And so it's not their fault. You know it gets passed onto a new person who comes into that office and people retire. People move on and the historical link to that case sometimes disappeared sad. It's been i opening. But it's been i opening in the worst possible way and that's that's the stuff that's frustrating news. You finally get the records and unfortunately it confirms yours. That there's i mean there's some stuff in there there's there's ways to go but it is not nearly what they were hoping for. Perhaps one of the most frustrating details was this a seven year gap of nothing in the files according to the kasese his it true that no police work has been done on this case in the last seven years. Well it's difficult to answer that question because there has been. Some statements made by the police department. That not everything was written down and that there are other things done. I mean if nothing else if that investigators no longer on the case someone else has to come through so either nothing's been done or there's no paper trail and it's impossible for anyone to take over the case and everything is just in the person's head that doesn't make any sense but yet there hasn't been a whole lot done it doesn't mean they haven't followed up on any leads or anything but it's difficult looking at the records that have been produced to figure out what exactly has been done which goes to our very point of why it was not an active investigation despite their frustration with the police the kassy's and their legal team say the files are rich in information on possible suspects and persons of interest. Do you feel that the person or persons involved might very well be named in these records. Paul elaborate a little more. The men candidly some of it. Very helpful and easy to understand some of it of no organizational value at all or help a great deal of redundancy and frankly a lot of what appeared to be reinventing the wheel from year to year as new investigators would come on it and so on. However since we've gotten the file michael terada who is the investigator who has been working on. The case has developed some good leads and really one of the best catalysts to lighting a fire under the case again was unexpected for me which was once the case was back in the local newspapers or at least local media again in the tampa and orlando area as witnesses started coming forward. And and you know there's a percentage of leads leads valuable. It's usually about ninety. Five percent is not of any genuine value. But there's nuggets in that five percent that you have to run down while i've been trying to focus on the legal aspect of the case. The investigative unit does sort of keep me a prize certainly keeps the cassie family apprised of what's going on in there. They are running down some valuable leads and it case continues to be very active. Despite its old age. I have reason to believe that. Many of these are genuine. Leads some of them. Frankly happened from you. Know shake in the bush is a little bit and just sort of potentially disturbing witnesses. That might not have been disturbed over a decade and reminding them of the importance this case has especially for the cassie family and so people have recollections of events. That may not have been accurately recorded for instance. I know that mr terada had spoken to a series of people that were living in the apartment complex or the condominium complex at or near the time of the disappearance several of which were reporting Regular sort of verbal abuse from some of the workers from the actual facility. People that work as we understand it were given permission to live on the premises during the construction and the add-ons renovations that were taking place there. I know that the investigator has spoken to several of them. They've given us some. If not outright suspects. Good people have interest to speak to and we've located many of those people in are currently following up on those interviews. I know it's speculative but based on everything that you know all the files that you've reviewed do you believe that one or more persons in those records knows what happened to jennifer. Do believe that. I believe that it would have taken more than one person to have created sort of the dearth or the lack of evidence that exists right now and that the lack of you know what appear to be strong leads in the formative days of the investigation. You know from six to eight. I believe that in half you know since my involvement in this that the culpable parties are most likely the evidence would suggest are people that were working at the facility at mosaic in january two thousand six in our next episode of house of broken dreams. You'll meet a woman who says. She was harassed by a sexual predator. While living at mosaic. When i opened the door thinking past or even maybe a deer on a raccoon is really what i expected to see in the corner of my patio to the left. Maybe six feet from me is a man.

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1996 Redraftables: Kobe, Iverson, Nash, Allen, and the Draft That Changed Everything With Ryen Russillo | Book of Basketball 2.0

Book of Basketball 2.0

1:48:45 hr | 1 year ago

1996 Redraftables: Kobe, Iverson, Nash, Allen, and the Draft That Changed Everything With Ryen Russillo | Book of Basketball 2.0

"Today's episode of the Book Basketball to point out on the ringer podcast network. The first episode season two is brought to you by a couple of charity organizations that we love world central kitchen right now. We're facing an unprecedented mercy. Unlike anything this country has experienced beyond the health impacts of the cove in nineteen corona virus. Our economy has ground to a halt the reality star but simple millions of Americans have out of work and struggling to put food on the table for their families. But that doesn't mean this moment is not without hope. World Central Kitchen has seen what's possible they fought on the front lines. Japan and California deploying systems to deliver meals to quarantine cruise ship passengers. Their relief team is now serving. Nearly one hundred thousand meals every day across the country. They need you together. Hashtag chefs for America. Make sure nobody is left behind. They're doing something really great here in Los Angeles which I have donated one hundred thousand dollars to their feeding the frontline fighting cove nineteen in Los Angeles. You could do that too right now. they almost four hundred and fifty employees hospital. Workers in ICU. An ER units and six hospitals in the Los Angeles area. They're taking care of all those people lunch dinner for as long as they have the funds to do it and even better that money is going to restaurants here in Los Angeles so please go check that out. You can find all of it on the W. C. K. Dot org website. And since. We're there if you're thinking about feeding people don't forget to go to feeding America Dot Org as well. You can find over two hundred foodbanks tied to different cities and towns across America. I donated to the Greater Boston. Food Bank couple of weeks ago Go CHECK IT OUT. Go help some people do what she can. He's are important times If you have the means do what you can for the people at there okay. We're also brought to you by the Ringer. Dot Com and the ringer podcast network. Where we're still trying to crank out a bunch of content including this week on the ringer dot com the greatest TV characters of the twenty first century. We did a whole bracket so you can check that out as well as all the pods. Were doing this idea that you're about to hear started because Ryan Russillo and I wanted to redraft the two thousand draft which is the worst draft of all time. We'd been talked about doing it for a while. We decided to get a little more ambitious. We redrafted the nine hundred ninety six draft I and II conic. Nba draft either the first or second greatest draft of all time. That's what you're about to hear. We did this on my podcast but going forward on this feed for season to season two. We never even knew we're going to do until the Corona virus thing hit the point. Where it's like. Well what US Regular Dome Quarantine? Who met his will redraft every draft. So we're starting with nineteen ninety six this week on the Book Basketball. Pied you her. Ninety seven. Ninety eight and ninety nine is all coming this week and then we'll be moving to two week after that so this is the first one who did. We did me Ryan Russillo. The nineteen ninety-six Draft. The redraft redraft the Palooza here on book a basketball 2.0. But first TIC TAC and Melatonin Basketball should fast fast fast. All Right Sundays with Ryan Russillo. You know I was going to save this part of the Pied until later and do a bunch of current event stuff. I but I'm the kind of guy if I have a president. I JUST WANNA give it to somebody later the same thing. When I got engaged I was supposed to get engaged with my wife at dinner. I had the ring the night before. We're in my basement and I ended up just kind of just saying fuck it and I gave her the ring the night before I was supposed to I. I'm a guy likes to hand out presents. This is a president. We are redrafting every single. Nba draft from ninety six on starting. Today in this podcast. Now we're going through. We'RE GONNA run off on book a basketball but one of them is going to be Priscilla's this week we have already banked ninety seven ninety eight ninety nine. Russillo is on a couple of them and And now we're doing this one and I I didn't have to twist your arm to do this. I'll say that this is this is one of my favorite ones all the different story lines of this though. But you know how it's connected You know Larry Round come to Philly. The year after this cow being with New Jersey and the whole Kobe storyline Patino. And the the back and forth Larry Brown and that whole story in Patino comes into next year and all the money that those guys were pulling down at the time was like astronomical than Patino contract was crazy but all of that stuff is connected and when you go through this Iverson was clearly the number one guy but there is when we redraft this redraft this for real. I wanted to go first because the the number one is very obvious with Kobe. But there's a real question of of what why how far down should Iverson go right? How far behind some of these other guys or does he automatically go number two because some people listening to this? Kobe won Iverson to and then the rest of the conversation. I'm not sure that that's the case. And the fact that it felt like the GM's were all like on adderall. That night and couldn't stop calling each other and making trade because you sent me that text this this trade is absurd how loaded it is and then some of the guys you even forget where they're in it so it wasn't just as headliners there's some real depth to the holdup historically. Yes so we pick ninety six. It's it's one of the two iconic drafts ever along with the nineteen eighty-four drafted either the best draft ever the second best draft ever Depending on you know what you favor but it's also a fascinating point with basketball because you have. It's still college is still feels like college basketball. You still have guys stand for two three. Even four years sometimes. Still have the coaches. The audience is still there. People still love it and the products really good but you can feel things starting to shift and it shifts the year before when Cagey goes right from high school to the NBA and in this draft. Specifically if Kobe's a high schooler. Nobody has a feel for what that means where he should go. He's gone all these workouts. He's knocking people socks off and yet there's a real hesitation. It's not much different than cagey the year before where he falls of five and even though people are like well talent wise. This guy's probably the best guy. Joe Smith Goes Four. Picks THEM But you so yeah that the one and done stuff is really starting at this point. Anton wins the title of Kentucky. And just comes out. He's he's he's just done that's it. He's he's ready to go. The MBA is nineteen years. Old Ends up going six in this draft but you see these worlds are colliding. College basketball is really about the change. We don't fully understand that yet. We still have a lot of history with a lot of these guys and within probably four years college basketball just kinda starts to turn into something else it died. It's not the same kind of town pool. It all starts with this draft. What else do you remember about ninety six just from a big picture standpoint? Okay so the K. G. stuff the year before it is probably one of my favorite things in that we do this. We do this deal where it happens. A lot in college boards. But I think it's overall just in this. In this way we navigate through things when things are new when things are different. And it's not the norm or like wait a minute you know. What are they doing like? I don't really like this I remember in the eighties if a kid left after a sophomore year. You're like what's wrong with this guy. Like who's he think he is and all this stuff like oh he might not be ready. It's like it's not. You're not drafting to be ready. You're drafting for what somebody could be. And this is as you said is part of that transition the media and it's not just media sports fans and sometimes selfishly college sports fans. This isn't a just a ridiculous Pattern but people seem to care about other people's education levels way more than they should especially when they're people you're never going to meet so yeah he was going to jump straight from high school and really we decades removed from guys doing it before it's like. Who Does this guy think? He is one of my favorite lines that are repeated. A million times was mad. Dog Chris Russo doing radio and I would listen religiously and Mike and the dog and he's like well maybe cagey should just play the home games and not go on road games and you're like wait a minute but this was like he was challenging things so but that time it was like well at least caged like a seven footer. And he's a big man because if we've ever had happen before you know Moses Malone some others it was going to be a big man that would do it and for Kobe to come into that year's draft ninety-six and be a perimeter player. It was immediately met with resistance because we didn't have access to any of these legendary workouts. The only people that really knew how good he was were either himself is family or the people are going to these workouts and yet he's still almost goes outside of the lottery because it was trading right right and honestly the way he got traded. We'll go through all that kind of stuff. It was all kind of navigated with agents. I also think that's important agents. At this time I feel like far more powerful with positioning. Who Goes Wear in the draft. What happens and scaring teams off? I think the agents in the nineties had more power when it came to the draft. And they do today. And there's real resistance to all of this at the time and that's the hardest thing to explain. I think if you watch the Fab five documentary that we did for It was not really a thirty for thirty years free as pin. Was that weird stretch when we're making thirty for thirty days then we're calling them. I still count as a three thirty. I watch with my son recently because my son just knows. Jalen from the guy who's come over to my house and the guy is my friend and he was like Bush Jalen was was Jalen a good basketball player. Mike Yeah Jalen was like an icon so we watched that Fab five thing and you can really feel it in that now. Highly recommend that as a reward for people where you know. Five freshman starting was inconceivable Freshman carrying themselves. The way they did there was like this real sense with the old school college basketball community that they were losing control of this thing where it's like the NCAA College Basketball College. Football it wherein control. These kids are playing for us and starting with that fat five things start to flip and the whole infrastructure is now in danger and it's all leading to this ninety five and then especially the ninety six draft where it's like all right now these kids are GonNa use you just like you're used them. They're going to leave after year. They might not even go to college anymore. When we when I was growing up it was most and bill willoughby or is heard those two guys. In the mid seventies Moses went straight to the A. B. At High School Bill Willoughby the next year went to the NBA Right. Outta high school and never really made it. And then dockets ends up on the sixers and had a pretty good career and then it just gets shut down For until KGB and there were still that weird attitude that you just mentioned tapped into of people being really dismissive in untrustworthy of talented guys. Coming in to young like we were protecting them. I'm not sure what we're protected them for other than just making more money right away right you think about Patrick Ewing he should come into the NBA after one year. Georgetown he may he lost three. Nba Seasons 'cause he's play. He played for years at Georgetown. Was it worth it? I don't know it was also the norm right. John Thompsons type of guy that like had so much power back then. That Patrick Ewing wasn't going to leave early. Now I mean Walter Berry left early and I remember being like. Oh it's okay. Whatever he's ready to go to one of the guys at Saint John's who I I loved in thought okay. Well he's going to be a start and didn't really work out and then that would always happen because then I started become like. Hey all of these guys should bounce the sooner you can get into the league and and prevent them from finding out that you can't play go ahead and do it And you'd be surprised like you would think most GM's would've wanted to be players in college longer to have more of a sample to watch him but over the years. Most of the guys that I talked to said you know you just should be able to come right out of high. School would rather get him in here and as far as getting into trouble and that kind of stuff I think there's kind of like three categories of people all right. There are kids that have it figured out and understand and enter for more mature and I think sometimes in Europe hit kid in high school. That's going to that kind of spotlight. Like Lebron James already mature beyond his years because he had been in the spotlight for such a long time that he kind of understood what was being asked of him. And if you think about like the blueprint for wanting to just nail it at least to how you're accepted socially it's Lebron James Cagey was one of those guys in a way to not as out front of the face of a franchise. Bekasi just kind of knew how to to make it work like he wasn't GonNa be a bad kid where other people like. The other category is is kids. That are just bad kids and I don't care if you're going to the pros out of high school after one year of college. He probably didn't get into trouble. Because you left for the pros too early. You probably get in trouble because you were going to get in trouble no matter where you were and then. I think there's a kids that do something wrong. Adjust and then never make that mistake again. So I I there was all these things always put on it and I think we do this all the time. Like in general stuff like Ebay. I remember when Ebay was first announced in Gaza. Like wait what you're gonNA put something up for sale and then people you don't know or going to bid on it and you're going to trust that they're going to pay for it. Well that's fucking stupid and it works like think about ride shares. Wait so my my daughter is getting some guy some assholes going to drive over some stranger in his previous easy to pick my daughter up and he's going to drive into the mall. Well that's crazy. That's not going to happen. And then ends up. Being this unbelievable successful company that people try to emulate so I think when it comes to sports the even if you did it for the NFL and said well what if kids just came through high school. Yes I think the first thing. Is You worry about the physical development of some of these guys. But is there any version of it were? If guys came out of college football earlier that we would go. Hey you know it wasn't a big deal. Is having a quarterback leave at first freshman year and get some pro coaching and become a pro a lot earlier than another two years? Playing at the college level. And that's where this started these two years for running back so it'd been great too so when I was a kid. The nineteen eighty celtics birds. First season they lose they lose to Philly and five but read are back had made this trade and they had the number one. Pick 'cause he had traded Bob Mac and had this future number one it becomes the number one pick in the whole draft and they know this. Sampson has just finished his his freshman year. Virginia and Sampson is the lost Sure thing from the eighties nineties. Basically you're talking. Jack Ewing David Robinson Hakeem team. Yeah and I mean I remember the first taking article I ever read. I was in elementary school and I was like. What are the rockets? Doing right serious. It was crazy and I was in sixth grade. So Sampson was like the fifth of the shore things from the eighties nineties and read are back. Wants him to come out for the draft and he's kind of lobbying for it and people are getting mad at red are back and and you know. There's this people come back and I'm going what what's what's nothing's more important than an education and and red gets in trouble he goes what's going to become a doctor like he's an NBA player. He should come out right now. Seventy four and he's trying to you know and it's a really good. What if because if he comes out Sampson was just unbelievable? His knees started going on them and in the mid eighties. But if you think about it. He spent three more years in Virginia and then ends up on Houston. That's a lost year. Hakeem shows up by the time he You know it's five years later before his on a decent team he could gone celtics team with all that stuff so anyway we go through the eighties and basically to the KGB moment and that's when that part starts to flip the other thing was Iverson was already really polarizing heading into that draft because he had gone to jail for the bowling. I think we did a thirty for thirty on that whole thing too. It was really messed up. He got an it was so messed up that he ended up getting as much trouble as he did for that. That's what I mean. He he he got completely railroaded and then he got eventually got part and he goes out ends up ending up at Georgetown. Any Super Fun to watch that one year in the biggies back when the big east was still a thing at some point it becomes the Alan Iverson draft. Clearly going to go first. They don't win the title with Emma Georgetown but still really fun and it's a loaded draught and you met all these all. These dumb trades that end up affecting the draft and all these different ways. I can't emphasize strongly enough if you don't think. Nba teams do what they were doing in two thousand nineteen in two thousand twenty. And if you think we had some bad GM's dubbed decisions. Let take you back to the mid nineties. 'cause it was a pocket lips of bad decision making and a lot of them all crested in that draft. What was your favorite trade of all the trades? I mailed you 'cause I'd forgotten emo car actually one or trade with the EMO car heading into that ninety six draft. I think that I think Oh. Yeah he did it the week. Before he traded Eric Montross and the nights pick to the Mavericks for the number six pick and a future pick which became the six pick in the following year's draft which could have been Tracy McGrady if they had done the right thing but That unable to him to move into number six and take Antoine. I think if they had stayed at number nine. I actually do think they would've taken Kobe. I know that's a why based on. Why do 'cause he worked out for the Celtics? They loved him but they weren't GonNa take them at six. But I think he there's a picture of him online with him in the Celtics t shirt and they made a big deal after about how much how how impressed they were by six was too early nine to fourteen was. Kinda Kobe arranged for this draft. Right I think anything earlier and that would have seemed obscene but apparently the nets are going to take them to and they a day. Calipari thank overruled. Whoever else vice versa can't remember this story. Okay we'll couple of things I you know Iverson was there. Two years right is it was dead yet that showdown with Ray. I look through this and go man Lorenzen Wright. They're seven to the clippers Kittles ends up going eight. So that's the thing I spent the most time on today going back over. What cal set you and I both know this. There is no survival instincts stronger than the GM years removed from the decision. That didn't go his way and cal. What happens a Lotta Times is if somebody makes MRS on somebody or they'll tell you how badly they wanted them. After the fact yeah and they blame everybody else for it Let's let's say calories word here. I'm not sure we should. Let's let's do it as a as a thought exercise okay. So they've got the eighth pick. They've worked koby out. I believe three times fairleigh Dickinson and calderas losing his mind. John Nash who was I this is one of the biggest dickhead moves. I've ever done on a live show but I was so upset. When the sixers traded Moses Malone and the number one pick that was going to be Brad daugherty because I couldn't wait to see Barclay Moses Malone and Brad daugherty. What is your guy? Barker's my guy so I was like that's saying like Barclays GonNa play small forward 'cause he could've and instead they traded Moses Interior College. I believe for Jeff ruined and Cliff Robinson the one from the Harlem globetrotters and then they pick for Hinson. Yep Door to pick for Hanson. Yeah George Boarded Paper Hinson. Now I'd heard years later. Years Years removed that they wanted to get Moses out of Philadelphia But that's what they ended up with ended up with two big from the bullets in Roy. Hinson who was always hurt all the time and so John. Nash was the Front Office Guy at that time. Now national being the GM of the trailblazers when they did the Martell webster pick when they moved down. You know there was the Chris Paul Darren Williams draft Ron Williams I was on a Philadelphia. Comcast show where I was in Boston and Nash was on the panel back in Philly and I was like well. You know whatever they were talking about as it gets not as bad as traded Moses the number one pick for Hinson and some bullets and everybody else the panels like Jesus. I later apologized to John and he was actually really good to me Because later on like I said he was in the League but the reason I bring that up is that Nash was the one going to cal saying we have to take them cows like I wanNA take him. Cal had dinner with Kobe's parents the night before the draft McKay and Joe Brian saying rookie of the year. All Star second season and cows like here. I'm thinking his father's delusional and at the same time like he was totally right about him and then Arn tellem calls up and says if you take Kobe Date GonNa play in Italy. You just took this gig you're fucked and cows like look. I can't do this in my own building. I can't screw this one up. And then David Faulk who had all sorts of Jews back in the ninety S. You know that as well as anybody called and just kept hammering on the Kerry kittles thing the Kerry kittles thing and so the next day they have lunch. Calipari tells Nash. I'm not taking Kobe. I'm afraid he's GonNa go. I can't get this wrong. You know aren't is on my case about kills Joe Taub who was the owner of the nets at the time wet to those two guys and said I want John Wallace instead at a Sarah Juice. Oh No yeah so you know look. Cal clearly was enamored with them but I always wonder when we start talking about stuff. That happened twenty twenty five years ago when it's a bad decision like how often people will make excuses for something that went bad. It's pretty much human nature. Why I remember the famous Celtics draft. When they took Joe Johnson Caja Brown and Joe Forte. Twenty one and to know what you're GONNA say here. Well they made a big point of being like you know that was red's pick read really Love Them. I just read was like in his mid seventies at that point he was. You know the old guy were. He was in the war room out of basically respect. And that's it wasn't like he was burning the game film at night and I just refuse to believe that read was in control of what of the three first round picks at that stage of his life. You know the way was sold to me. It was like he had a gun on everyone. In the room. Oh Yeah Forte. Because the relationship with a high school coach once Forte didn't pan out. That's exactly what happened. So here is the draft just for the people listening who don't remember the sequence phillies. I take Iverson Terada a second. They take Marcus. Camby Vancouver Takes Sharieff Abdur Rahim who Was very very highly regarded prospect and was huge high school kid and that was actually picked that made sense. Stefan MARBERRY GOES FORTH TO MILWAUKEE. Rayon goes fifth to Minnesota. They end up flipping picks Anton Walker goes six to Boston. And I remember at the time. Didn't a lot going on I think that was the summer. I started bartending. Really being convinced. This was a six-person draft so when M. L. Who is more on the state for more on when he was a GM when he trades up into the top six? It was like this is great. This is a six player draft. It's impossible to move into the top sex when it's six per draft but they pulled it off quiz or seven Lorenzen rate. The Nets are eight. They Take Care Kid who's better than people remember but man that Kobe thing is tough. He just aren't man. I mean kittles thing was injuries morning. All right really. Dallas is nine with Somalia Walker. Indiana takes Erick Dampier ten and then we have incredible combo hair. Golden STATE ELEVEN CLEVELAND. Twelve Todd Fuller. Vote Tally Papago. And then the next five hex Charlotte Kobe Bryant Sacramento pay pages Avec Phoenix Steve Nash. Charlotte Tony delk PORTLAND. Jermaine O'Neal and as as you're going to see when Redo this this draft and I I did in two thousand fourteen. I wrote a whole piece. Redrafted every draft for twenty years for Grantland with the point being This is a crap shoot. Why do we throw ourselves into these drafts so much? There's no rhyme or reason to any of this this is probably the all time example Where you have a couple blue chippers that we know we're going to be good and then some guys at a nowhere that become transcendent hall of Famer Steve Nash Fifteenth. Pick Santa Clara. Remember when you saw. Nash get the hat and come across the stage. Do you remember where you were in your reaction because I do? I just remember instinctively rooting for him for some reason because it was like. There's a white Canadian point guard. Who just went fifty? I knew nothing whether there was the other thing. Ninety six. We had no youtube. We had no big boards. There is no not even the person to people before Chad. Ford there is really nothing. You just had talkradio and you had people going. I really like Antoine Walker and I thought he was really good in the march madness and that was like our college basketball PIDS back. Then we just yeah. That's it I mean you you. The Internet wasn't and I feel like we repeat ourselves on this. You know whenever that comes up unless you watch a Santa Clara Game Live you. You didn't know what the hell was going on so at first. You like. Who's the intern? You know what's going on here with Nash. Well we remember how much we would rely on the little clips. After the guy got picked they would show right and remember twenty seconds. I saw clint like you know the. Nfl draft is always hilarious to me. Because you know going to that live maybe once in God bless you if you do and maybe if it's just you and your boys guys week or weekend or whatever. It is in India but you have to admit even today ninety percent of the guys being announced you haven't watched one fucking snap of okay and so what you do? Is You talk yourself into because of a article? You read or a Clip. That you see some defensive lineman or some guard and really all you want is just fantasy guys. You can have fantasy guys from your favorite football team. But now we're so updated like I think it's so funny that the NFL draft is still kind of outdated because most guys are going to sit there and start watching guard film going on. There could be a couple of guards available twenty but that's what we were doing. We were blind in one thousand nine hundred ninety six and then I was. I was back home that summer. I was added buddy sows sows. Like look I don't care what the plan is tonight. I'm watching the draft and then I'll meet up with you guys after and they're like you seriously gonna. Watch this whole course to watch this whole thing and His clips when they fired up. I'm like Whoa like WHO's this guy. Hers even hiding but it still seemed you know. Like who Steve Nash? Really going to be that good it just. It was such an unknown and to see his clips. It was just you know I was in college still and I just went out like I wish I'd seen this guy play. I love the draft my entire life. I remember when they did not televise the draft. And you had that so I remember. There's what I'm going to say early. Eighties I think they started televising. It somewhere in the early eighties but I remember one year. The Celtics had a couple of second round picks. One of them was Tracy Jackson. They took from Notre Dame but I remember listening that draft on the radio because it wasn't on TV and it's one of the local sports stations. Radio stations was just just running it and it was like with the thirty first two Celtics Tracy Jackson and some point at some point. They realized they should start. Televising it and in general they re they realized what they had stumbled into around the Sampson. Hakeem Ewing era when so before the. Us thing that was when they added the lottery they at some point realized that there was a televised spectacle. That should be happening. Which really wasn't much different than football. I don't think football was showing the drafts. Either until eighty two eighty three and that's cable is the reason. We started having televised drafts. But I loved it immediately. I used to watch them. Used to go over to my dad's house then eventually when I started writing do draft Iras from out website. But even before that we would we'd be talking about the draft for days and the reality was there was no information and you were talking to your ass ninety percent of the time with all of these guys now. Our talk address fifty percent of the time. I remember going back in in researching some of that stuff in it. That was that was a ten round draft like they would do ten roads and Red Auerbach would take like whoever went to Holy Cross. He would take plumbers cousin and I remember years later after you realize this because as a kid I don't know how this ever happened to you. It happened to be very rarely but you would go. Oh you know. His father was a carpenter builder. Whatever and we would go and work on some of these people's houses and then I remember this one place doing a deck. The Guy was probably on vineyard summer house in like well. You know Tom Here was actually drafted by the Celtics. And at that point a little kid you go. Oh my God you know. What's Larry Bird like? Are you a millionaire? And all right and then as I got a little older I was like. Yeah but what round though did you like did you play Merrimack or something and you're just like a local tenth rounder and never played in the guy was like. Yeah exactly exactly what I was. Yeah that was the rule like he was drafted by the Celtics. I'm like yeah but like the fake. Pick because your local kid like don't tell strangers that they used to do the last seven rounds they would just take. Kids brand is sold across. Yeah that's what I mean Boston University. Yeah that was the book yet. Hey Crowns think about that. Two hundred twenty three kids were drafted in a twenty three team league in eighty-one so I listened to the nineteen eighty-one draft on the radio. The Celtic said the twenty third. It's picking the first round that took Charles Bradley. Who Could Dunkin those it second round? Wyoming Tracy Jackson twenty-fifth other mess and then really third fourth round. Mrs FROM EIGHTY-ONE NO DADDY AGE thirty. I O Rigo and I and I remember on the radio there like He might play baseball but you know reds had some success John Havlicek almost played football and it was like one of those. Nobody do anything. They didn't know what did they reference the other guy plays pitch for the braves who was gene Conley. That was another one. Yeah yeah again. Took Conley four hundred years ago well yet in the eighties. You would just have registered making these trades where he knows Kevin McHale is going to be better than Joe. Barry Carroll Trades back to picks but then picks up the number thirteenth pack as well. We'll give number one and they're like cool. We'll have the number and and people are just getting pillaged by the nineties People are still getting pillaged. But this I'm GonNa read all the trades for the for the listeners. 'cause there's some classics in here so draft. Night Bucks Trade. The rights to Stefan Marberry to the Timber Wolves for Ray on any future first round pick. I would say the bucks won that one. I mentioned the Math Celtic straight. Here's another one. This is one where everybody who loved College Basketball New. Jalen rose was going to have a moment in the NBA there. He was getting buried and the delegates. I never gave up. He was just too interesting of an offensive player and always was better in big games and it was just hard to believe he wasn't going to make it the pacers trade. The number twenty third pick along with Mark Jackson and get old ricky to the nuggets for the tenth. Pick 'n Jalen rose and Reggie Williams who is a former top five lottery pick. So that was a steel The Georgetown Reggie Williams. Yeah Yeah so then you have this other trade where you have two summers ago. The magic trade. The their future draft pick and Scott's gyles to the bullets for the forty second. Pick trying to clear cap space for Horace Grant. So the wizards somehow ended up with the eleventh pick. But not for long because they trade that with Two other first responders and Tom Googly. Outta for Chris. Webber Nineteen Ninety Four C. have all that in their menu. He's a nice guy and then you have. They also traded the number twelve pick for a fairly washed up mark price that year too. So the bullets went from having the Twelfth Thirteenth. Pick to know picks and then you have a couple other ones. The heat traded the sixteenth pick in the Alonzo mourning trade when they traded When they traded for Alonzo Mourning the Pistons traded the number eighteenth pick with Dennis Rodman for the twenty six pick and shot Elliott. They'd today and three so that when moved and then We have Kevin Willis in the nineteenth pick for Steve Smith and grant long trade from two years earlier but then my favor one. The heat in September ninety sent the nineteenth pick and one million dollars to the Knicks for the right to hire Pat Riley. Great Trade Yeah. Yeah you gotTa have that again right. The Riley Nixed thing was crazy. That's its own podcast. Contentious Yeah and and then dear fans were really really hurt and angry so round. Riley signs everywhere is it rhymes. Oh yeah that's right yeah Okay so we're going to redraft but wanted to mention a couple of things. I ranked. I did this in the grantland common. Just GonNa keep it here. Five star system for how good the player was so super duper star. You have to be like basically a hall of fame. Pyramid Pantheon Guy. That's five stars. Alzheimer's four stars Franchise Guys Three Star all stars to stars quality starters one star so this draft had as superstar. Kobe Bryant Five Stars it. Add to four star Guys National Iverson. It had a three star guy. Who's almost like a three and a half star? Rayon to to star Guys Jermaine O'Neal Ben Wallace and then four one-star guys do academic can be Margaret Walker. Which means they were. You know starter. Berlin all stars and then Sa- Judas Saugus Sri of door renaming Kerry kittles who were all like really serviceable starters. Thirteen guys who not only Made valuable contributions but got paid. And you mentioned this earlier. This draft class made so much money was is probably the biggest windfall of any draft class up that point right. I mean what Kobe did like he was making twenty four twenty five when the second highest paid player was making eighteen or nineteen so kobe got hooked up in this deal Jemaine. O.`Neil made a ton of money here can be still played. Seventeen Years Nash played eighteen. Ray played eighteen. You know ray to Max deals I think in there. So yeah I mean Nash who did incredibly well for himself wasn't one of the top five highest paid guys this class. I added up the math. Koby Iverson Jermaine. O'neal Rayon made more than eight hundred. Twenty five million dollars combined just buying basketball just did salaries they kobe. Iverson O.`Neil in Ray Allen. Just those four guys made over eight hundred twenty five million dollars combined and this was the era when in ninety nine when they're the lockout all the sudden anybody who is three years in the league could just redo their contract and signed some six year giant deal You had Marbury Adore him and Anton Walker outside. Mac Steals Cambio. Gaza said asked Nash. Multiple big-money deals kittles made over fifty five billion dollars which I didn't realize so Just money all over the place that That really has been top The other thing I did hear was created a Simmons Crapshoot rating called the scrap to see just how much of a crap shoot each drafted Be used in that going forward. This was a Ted Atta Ten. Just for like when you look back and you just go. Wow what the fuck happened in that draft. This is a ten out of ten. I think we're GONNA do the two thousand draft together in a couple of drafts which both of us are excited about. That's like a minus ten out of ten. It's like a what the fuck happened. And also why he's confused the entire time Do you want the first pick of the second pick? I want to second pick all right. We'll do that. Let's take a break. Then we're going to redraft the ninety six okay couple of other subplots just to put people kind of in the head space where some of these teams were ninety in ninety six. C had Philly who had just traded Barclay four years before and trades catastrophic. And they bottom out. They have a chance to rally the following year. They take Shawn Bradley. The second pick. How did you feel about that in Ninety four were what was your Shawn Bradley. Take not strong. He just you know just it didn't make sense at the time out of those is a little over candy ish you know it was like. Oh you guys are GonNa do that. It reminded me of The has shaped the beat draft in two thousand nine where there were all those awesome guys in that draft and Memphis had the second pick and it was I did they. They're serious. They're going to take the beet and all of us all of us. Were like really. You're not really going to do that right. That's not really going to be the move right. And then they actually did it. That was the Shawn Bradley thing. Do you remember who was one and three in that draft in ninety two? Oh is whatever the Shawn Bradley Year was. What was that ninety three or not? I thought that was ninety four. You're you're probably know better than I do. Let me Go listen diary soon. I wasn't either 'cause I remember Glen Robinson I remember that contract disputes and how yeah was Weber and then penny an American and then Isaiah rider. Who was one of the greatest interviews ever? Do you remember that? Nbc NBA on NBC. And Sunday I think it was ninety six ninety seven season and he sat down and did a one on one with somebody and he was like. Yeah I chill and then fill in. The blank was like do you. Why do you think you're better than he's like? Oh I'm just going to pick a name here. It'd be like I chill. You Know Glen Rice and it's not wasn't Glen Rice but it was like the most vicious I've ever seen a player like in a one on one whereas normally like hey we you know. Today's game Isaiah rider their wing. Jr writer later on his like now. yeah Weber. One Bradley two. I think they could beat things. Perfect 'cause he's not the number one and you can tell like. I finally figured this out later on but when you ask a school about their own guy and they're like oh you know that kind of stuff I was getting from Yukon about the beat of like. What do you guys think about the beat like well you know if he does this this this this and the twenty things later like. Oh you guys. Sticky sucks all right got it that was one of those regis had to watch them. Run in person for five seconds. You're going to run that like you said. There's no way that happening you're wearing concrete sneakers so as it happened so philly my point they really needed the Iverson thing because they had the combo of the trading Barclay and then the Shawn Bradley thing and they are just rock bottom. Toronto NEW FRANCHISE NEW BLOOD. Just looking for anybody. Good Isaiah still running them at that point Vancouver expansion team. They're just happy to be there. They'll take anybody good. The Minnesota Milwaukee thing was interesting. So Milwaukee gets the better player my it. I felt that way the time I I think we can at Ray Allen. Yeah I just I just saw Rayon was I just love them I just thought he was a sure thing. I not not at the same level of how I felt about K. D. Or somebody like that but very rarely in college regis see somebody in college like. I would bet my whole life that that guy's GonNa be good. Professional Basketball Round was so clearly going to be really good The Marbury thing. He had the higher upside but the the family stuff was even worrisome. Back then he. He had had a really hard life and I they were. I thought there was some subtle red flags with him As much fun as he was to watch at Georgia tech but they wanted to put him with K. G. and try to do the whole Stockton Malone thing then. You have the celts at six delighted to get into a Walker and then after that In the Seltzer. Also coming off the Len bias. Reggie Lewis Combo and just to follow the Boston Garden. This is the first real sign of hope that they've had in a while. And then you go through the rest of them that the nets one is probably the most interesting one at eight but we talked about the reasons for that. Where they're doing this rebirth thing with Calipari and you know the nets had they lost driza. Petrovac that add a nice little run there where there was a little. Something would dare Coleman Kenny Anderson drazen. And they're all those guys are gone in two years. And that's a complete reboot for them. This is a really kinda rough time for the League because you had the ninety six polls go and seventy two and ten part of the reason. They went seventy two and ten minutes because there's so many bad teams because the league it over expanded. The quality of play was not that good. They're moving the three point line around. They can't decide where that should be. Its Way to physical It just this wasn't like a great time for basketball. They needed this. Draft is my point. Yeah and then the rest of the guys dampier as you mentioned ten address machi Walker Todd Fuller Batali and then Kobe Patia and then Nash is just outside of it. Even sneaky like Tony delk a little bit Who played in the League? So do you WANNA go first then? Iago I. I pick the way we decided to do this. There's a little bit of a. It's a little bit of a time machine element like do we draft for who we thought the team should take the time or do we just take the best player and do it in that order. I think we should just go in the order of Pierce who we think. We're the best players going down descending order and then we kind of it's a lot like just in his aside. I you know it's a lot like the rewatch ables for me where I still don't understand what we're doing but as Mike. Yeah like third one third redraft for me. I still don't know really what your rules are for this. Even though it's your vision and in some of these different rankings. I look at this as you know. If you were starting franchises. Who'd you go with? Nah That's how I look at it to did. They have do. They have good guard. Depth in nineteen ninety six is greater from team. All right so I'll take Kobe I because he's one of the ten best bars of all time and you know I didn't even really full. There's no way he would have gone. I would have been absurd impossible etc but it is funny. That philly had the first pick in this draft and and he was playing there and he was in their backyard. But you know it wasn't going to happen. There's no way Colby Bryant Number One over Alan Iverson forget it. Even if they'd taken him six I think people would have been mad. But it's just kind of funny because once the highschoolers started have success there is a world where five years later no doubt that somebody like. Kobe could've gone number one draft. It was not happening in nineteen ninety six so anyway. I have a currently Bryant as the first pick. Now you're on the clock at number two for For the sake of the redraft Toronto. Had this pick okay. This is I'm not doing this to get attention. I'm not doing this for any other reason than there's no way I would take Iverson here and I think ninety percent of the people listening or are you nuts. You have to take Iverson after Kobe. I don't think anybody take Iverson over Kobe. Don't think it's that ridiculous but Iverson and go through all this Iras and stuff if you want to or. We could wait to pick him. But I would take Nash. I think Nash plugging him. In to any scenario he makes everybody better. He should have shot more Honestly I always thought if he was healthier later on and this isn't me pretending he's all of a sudden healthy but he would have been an awesome to guard like twenty minutes a game just hitting threes But he just you know the backend stay healthy but his impact on a team was for more positive than Iverson's and I would take Nash on redraft. So I have nash rank tire a Mahala Fame pyramid. And I'm with you. I would take him higher as well. I loved Iverson. I'm actually in the Super Defensive About Iverson camp. Because I knew what's happened over the last ten years you could feel the seeds of being planted last In the two thousands whereas the future generations came and they had no idea what it was like to watch him play and see him all the stuff that he brought to the table. It was never going to translate to fifty years later. what is what was this guy. What's going on here? This advanced metrics were never going to be his friend with all that said I would rather have dash and you know I think his teams were consistently more successful. He made other guys better. He could play with just about anybody and you know He. His peak basically goes from ninety eight through two thousand eleven Iverson's peak. He it really kicks in in ninety eight. And he has you know he. Averages twenty nine a game from nineteen ninety nine through two thousand eight ten th straight years twenty nine a game. It's weird he never had that second. You know really qualified all star other than Carmelo. When he got to Denver on the other hand he played with a lot of good players. Who were of qualified to be second second guys on a really good team like when they got Cambay? He was the defensive player of the year. He was still a top four center. He Jerry Stackhouse who eventually became a thirty point scorer. You know it's not like he never played with anybody. I don't think it's like a t max situation right. But the differences team ex- style didn't make the rest of the roster. Think like what am I doing here? Iverson style like they didn't get rid of stackhouse because they didn't like Stackhouse's like let's try something different and yes they try the lira. Huge thing which we went over and one of the other drafts They had Andrea good. All of their. I even really liked that. Theo ratliff group. But then Larry Brown's Look I can bring into Cambay so I'm going to go ahead and do that kind of stuff. Buddy van Horn was the other one had van. Hurry was the second pick in the draft. He brought in these guys so that first year. Iverson comes in and this is the difference in the look. No one's trying to tell you that Iverson's Lebron but I think that there's a lot of shortcomings here when you look at the overall career arc year and I'm not trying to do the analytics. Let's trash him. You know shooting efficiency and all that kind of stuff I mean the guy was that small plane like forty one forty two minutes a game. I think he played like forty one minutes a game I career and he was still doing it at the very end But when he go it comes into the league a bad team twenty two and sixty. No one else is kind of weird looking at the sixers attendance numbers during all this. They weren't as good. You would think they would have been it like the Philly fans that turned on that team pretty quickly after the. Oh one thing I thank Allah. I think that was going on across the board with the NBA. The late nineties were rough because that was when the salaries one way up the the fans had a lot of trouble. Identifying with the players hip hop influence was so strong at that point and there definitely was a little. Bit of disconnect. That's when stern started. Put it in the dress code the rookie state. I was years later though after the Detroit in Pacers thing. No I'm saying like the ninety eight through two. There's a lot of a lot of tug of war between stern and the players and just trying to get them to be more personable to the fans and to think a lot about you know how they presented themselves and at a. It was a very strange air. It was weird to go to the Games back. Then like the self defense didn't like Antoine Walker. For two years they did not like the Antoine Shimmy. They you blame jar rule if there is some weird societal stuff going on back then though like you feel it okay but I can only compare to the other attendance numbers to the other thirty teams and they are lower turnover in total attendance than you would think like. It was Kinda weird so look bad records is I two years. He gets the second or third year second round and his fourth year then they make the NBA finals. And that's pretty much it man from two thousand to two thousand three season. It's six game loss in the second round of the Pistons. He never got to the second round again. He never got to the second round against so I understand when you get. Iverson you get somebody that you know. We applaud him for keeping it real. And that's awesome we apply. We applaud him for kind of being anti-corporate even though he was that he did transcend. Sandy was a smaller. Guy Duncan on people he was you know Newport news the whole deal like we get it but if you really break down and I'm not even trying to do the things here you just had to play a certain style. That was only his style and it was far less successful than I think people ever want to remember historically so I would actually take a Alan ahead of them in my draft. If you're not taking Iverson third so it's funny I had Alan ahead of Iverson in the Hall of Fame Pyramid. I mean I'm sorry I had Iverson had around in the Hall of Fame Pyramid. I think he had a more meaningful career. The two things I agree with ninety percent of what you just said. Two things Iverson brought to the table. That can't be taken for granted. He and I wrote about this in my book when my thing about him was about when you get season tickets in the mail and you're just looking at the schedule in your like whoever who the guys. I have to see this year now. Might be five guys that might be seven and might be nine like if you're doing it this year. You know if we had the NBA right now. You'd be like you'd take the Laker game. You'd put a checkmark next to that you do you do the Celtics but if you're just talking about individual players there's not many like I I really like seeing Daimler person like gone down the line. There's maybe eight to twelve guys. Iverson was always on that list for me. No matter how his team was doing I thought he was an incredible guy to see in person because he was really like probably five nine and a half five ten though the way he carries himself how much he played. You'd never came out. He carried himself like he was like a seven foot. Three hundred pound guy and he wasn't so I would say that for that and the other thing is the respect the other guys had for which I think matters. I think when you talk to some of these guys which both of us have had the privilege of doing and sometimes it's eye-opening who they who they go out of their way to gush about. I think Kyrie was like that. And in you know the two thousand sixteen seventeen range where the other players were almost like his biggest advocates and I think with Iverson the other players regardless of whether the windows of the other stuff backed it up they really respected him and even in the All Star game like he was always in crunch time he was you know it always made sense that he had the ball at the end of the game the matter how many good players on the floor so it's a really weird career that I can't almost can't compare it to nobody like him. Now you could even say it'd be like if Damian Lillard was the toughest guy in the league and but his team wasn't even as successful as it is now but it felt like they were more successful. That was Iverson. I have no counter to that. I think the best thing you could do would be Jordan without rings Jordan. Just you know if Jordan couldn't get past the Pacers in the second round for whatever reason But that it just impossible. It's impossible to even try to do that. Like Hey imagine a a twenty year arc of Jordan without success I mean as I say it out loud. It's just it's possible ever vision envisioned that but I think all the pro Iverson arguments become about a lot of the stuff. That doesn't equate to winning. But I have no counter like I made sure I got a chance to go see him because I want to see him that Allen showdown is one of my favorite baskets probably one of my favorite sporting events ever just being in the moment my buddies in college and watching us to go out at the biggest tournament. I absolutely love it so this is not an anti Iverson thing. This is strictly A. He did not care about winning. Did Not approach the game in a winning way for me to pass on somebody like Steve. Nash and I think Dash was definitely the right pick. I cannot figure out what the ceiling was on an average team. We saw it in two thousand one they made. Wasn't that good. I was good. I gotta be honest. I don't think the right team made the final set your for this. I thought the bucks were better walkie to yeah and you watch those games and it's Kinda hard to believe the bucks than and beat them. The bucks just seem like more of a final steam I had a better career. He was a more memorable player. If I'm drafting this if I'm GM in I have time machine access in nineteen ninety six. I would take reality with the third pick because I'm getting. I'm getting him for eighteen years. I'm getting this guy who at his peak which she had a couple of really nice ones. I'm walkie You know was the Alpha dog on a Buxton that almost made the finals but just in general was one of the most efficient guys we've had in the last twenty five years. I can put him with anybody he goes and has a second life with the Celtics. Then this third life with Miami Ed. I was just watching a game. Six two thousand thirteen. I just think he's a safer bet. If I'm trying to win a title then Allen Iverson was now I didn't realize that at any point ever since career but now from looking back if my goal is to win the title round is a better pick he just is so. I would take around third raise interesting in that. You said he'd had these two versions I. I think it's three versions because no there is three that Morgan Four. Maybe because I mean what he started doing you know in Milwaukee. He's He's twenty game. The three point numbers are just crazy. I remember when I was doing that Celtics. Tv STUFF FOR YEARS. And you know he first got there. No seven eight and I was working with Donny. Marshall who knew Ray from the Yukon Years. He was a little bit older than him and Donny was was degrade guided talk hoops with and he comes back and he goes man he goes. Ray like changed his shot. I'm like Ray Allen. Changes jump shot like why would like? Why would anyone do that? That's like the caprio deciding. You know I wanna I WANNA do spoken word. You know so ray. Did this little thing with his hands at the end of it and and Ray was right like ray made this tweak to what already looked like the wettest jumper going and he had this awesome. Seattle stretch where he put up huge twenty five twenty six to gain so when he came to Boston. Oh seven Oh eight and that was kind of the first piece when it looked like they were gonNA Trade Paul but age was always great and not trading peers. Just because he felt like Oh. The rescue team isn't good. The angels brilliant with that and I know it sounds stupid to say brilliant but so many other people wouldn't do it'd be like hey we're not good all right well this guy. That isn't thirty. That's really good. Let's get rid of him. You know like other teams did that and they add rate of that for Jeff Green which seems criminal because race. Still at that point. You know he'd had the ankles things he comes in thirty two but that led the cagey and all that stuff. Ray Sacrifice Moore with his approach to the game than the other two guys did now. I still think Cagey and Paul. Better than Ray and ray then becomes. This guy was trying to figure out around him because he was a better shooter with the ball and then found a way. I really think it took them a while to kind of get comfortable in that. You're just not going to have the ball and you see that much. And he found that with Miami because it was weird to to remember in Boston when he started to kind of loses handle because he he wasn't dribbling as much in Boston's offense and then he just kinda losses hand a little bit there so I i. I wonder how badly we're going to get about this. So you passed on Iverson Ray but the analytics will tell you that. Raise behind only Kobe in like two or three categories. Well so I'm looking at this like not. Who is going to? Who'S GOING TO SELL MORE JERSEYS IN? Who's going to be more fun to have my team? If I'm just trying to win a title rail and has to be the pick you look at his numbers from two thousand and two thousand seven. He is the most ahead of his time. Guy. We've had in the last thirty years. He's averaging twenty three five and four his forty five forty eighty nine percentages to shoot forty forty from three. But it's taken seven threes and this is at a time nobody was taking you know if you took four threes a game. That was a lot I think if you put him in the era that we're in now she's one of the ten best guys in the League every year that version Ray Allen Year after year is somebody you could build a franchise around and I don't know I the longevity I think pushes it over the top to me. This guy was good at nine hundred ninety seven in one thousand nine hundred in two thousand fourteen. He's still in the finals playing crunch time for that. Miami team we're talking you know Eighteen Years Iverson just flamed out a little too fast. For me. Iverson's career was basically over by two thousand nine. Yeah he hasn't played in a decade. Yeah he has cleared Memphis thing and then he had close it out. Billy just as kind of like a novelty deal and remember. He's still wanted to play. But at that point to like if you really want to dig in and all the stuff and I don't know how far away I don't really WanNa get sidetracked in here but Iverson. If he played today with the off the court stuff. He beginning suspended from the League so his career is effectively. His last goodyear as a legitimately effective player is two thousand nine. And I remember that had this. It's a my archives. You look it up Not You but anybody out there when Denver Trades Iverson to Detroit for BILLUPS and people are on TV on great trade for the Pistons. You know you get Alan Iverson and I'm like you I. I'm sorry but I'm going to basketball games. And Watching League Pass Iverson shot as a as a perennial. All Star Franchise guides just gone. Is the habit anymore. So I think the fact that his kind of stretch was just shorter than Then raise I did that as a matter. And the other thing I would ask so Iverson if Milwaukee beats them that that that round which is really conceivable and I think they should have. I really think the wrong team. One at that was one of the most poorly officiated series ever. How do we remember Iverson if we don't even know like no final trips? I think he's thought about completely differently. We're you know you're almost thinking trying to think who the football quarterback is that we would compare them to flacco no flacco. No that was nice. I I really think that two thousand one like I used to always take the broad deserves like a half a ring for that two thousand seven. Nba Finals appearance. Because THEY DID TO DETROIT. Like only been leave. You know not even five years Detroit. Still you know. They look at themselves as a bully. Rashid's guaranteeing wins after every single playoff laws. That kept losing and Lebron takes him out with that EPA game in two thousand seven where it was kind of the first like Whoa. What is this guy? And then they get smoked by the Spurs on a big deal. Same thing as kind of like a a shack penny deal with Orlando gone up again. It gets Akeem but that two thousand one finals they get the first game against L. A. And they get mocked. He's gotten a lot of like I feel like I'm not saying like look the Lakers. Were supposed to beat them. And we've just gone through how bad we didn't take the east was that year but it's it's salvaged. Iverson in a way where you know. I read about Chris Paul Sucking all the time because he can't get out of the second round but Iverson as the lead guy the undisputed league guy for every team he was on until you know look the Denver thing was Kinda he and back and forth and you're right by the time we get to Detroit. It was over He gets you. I'm not saying like I don't WanNa turn this in. I'm I'm sounding very anti Iverson it but I'm just saying little rousing pro Everson. Two thousand one is so positive for him and I think that's the love that people have for him. You know like it's never ever held against the only real playoff run that you had like the only one right. Well the other thing and again I I didn't want to rely on the stats too much because I really think it's important to mention how how larger than life. He was at the time and what it was like to watch him in person. I just loved Iverson but you know his stats part of the reason his stats were so impressive was he just played an incredible amount of minutes. Vigo to his per thirty. Six numbers is per thirty. Six scoring average is twenty three point three his per his actual scoring average in real. Life is twenty six point seven. He played he was as you said earlier. He's playing for his career. He played forty one point one. But it's a game sick it's like he's Wilt Chamberlain and he was getting any sleep. You right it's true. He's up twenty four hours a day so I if you look at his per thirty six. Oh He's he's twenty three five and three. He's forty two point. Five percent from the field and thirty one percent from three and his stats really aren't different. Than all of Ray Allen's prime cause railings playing thirty five thirty six minutes again not forty. It's honestly not crazy to think. Ray Allen is a better pick than Allen Iverson because if you're trying to win a title he's just a safer bet you can put Iverson. You have to move your whole team around what he does with Ray on. You'd have to do that so I'm taking around third. I mentioned reality and head of the time I was looking up by looked at one of the years. We had like seven point seven to eight attempts. They're a game from three. Which is just you can't express how monumental that isn't like a one to eight players. Took four hundred or more threes. Of course number one and number three were were Thuan Pierce. We didn't even count because the beginning of of the Patino Thuan Pierce thing was just gross with the amount of three guys. Took like you guys take bad shots. Now you think Diangelo. Russel Zach Levine. Get a little of every now with a three point attempt you got you got nothing on early Thuan Yet so eight players foreigner more attempts the past full season eighteen nineteen forty three players took four hundred more threes no one more than James Harden who took one thousand twenty eight threes and also eight hundred fifty free throws so hard and took almost nineteen hundred. Three's free throws for a full season. Enjoy that that's pretty gross. But nothing was grocer than watching a Kyle. Lowry offensive foul mix tape. That came out from so far this season. I think he has forty seven charges taken. I counted forty six flops. I would rather watch a joe exotic sex tape then Kyle lowry taking charge. It's you know I saw that tape floating around and I was like I hope Priscilla's what he oughta one either. Yeah the lowry one. I didn't even make it through it. I was like you know what I'm going to watch this and then I'm going to count. How many flops are. And then I'm GonNa tweet something really shitty and I had A. I actually closed out of the video. I couldn't survive anymore so you. You have Iverson forthright. Yeah Yeah. Let's get Johnny Douglas here. Yeah so Vancouver with Ray Allen and then Iverson with a going to Milwaukee at four and eight you know I know people are going to get pissed about the average that thing I remember member. Tnt did that redraft of the Alzheimer's Barkley. Took Alan Iverson. I and it almost cost like it almost caused a riot on the Internet. People are like what are you doing? How ever they were all drafted and they're all time teams and it was a steak draft embark like third Irish people. You just ruined this whole exercise in is on okay out obviously was great. An every television producer everywhere was like. How do we find the next Barkley so with the fifth pick which in the in the actual draft was Minnesota? There's two there's three guys on the board just so for the people. Oh Jermaine. O'neal it Ben Ben Wallace pay pages stack VIC. Marcus Camby Stefan Marberry Financial Walker. All those guys are on the board. I am taking because this'll be recurring theme with these redrafts that we do. I watched your main. O.`Neil be the best guy on teams that could have won the title and that matters to me more than anybody else on that list. I thought long and hard about been wallace but his prime just wasn't good enough. The Middle Neil thing really in the running for strange's Basketball reference page. He's on Portland for four years. Not playing yeah not playing right. Member Pacino was always trying to trade for him. Yeah oh every year it is buried on these Portland teams behind Rasheed Wallace. Bonus Davis is on there and they're not giving many run and people like us he's being thrown he was kind of like a Righty bye-bye type situation where the trade asset of him was so much more valuable than if you actually watched him in a game. You're like But then he then Indiana traits forum. They traded Davis farmers as part of it but then then he became a really really really good player in Indiana there for a couple years old four series against a trait. He's great. I thought Oh five year the Malay. He misses half the season. He's really good. That your average twenty four game that year. I thought he was awesome in the Celtics playoff series that year and I really liked that post. Belay Pacers team just in general But I I for the Matt Years. He played and all that I think he's the pick SOM- taking him fifth. What do you think of that? I love it because I had them. I think higher than than I thought I would when I went into it. But I'm with you. If you go peaked. Your Main O.`Neil. He's a really good player. I mean he put up some massive numbers there with the Pacers via right like he started. He started eighteen games. Those first four years he played ten minutes a game. Thirteen minutes a game nine minutes a game twelve minutes a game when he's in Portland and that was you know he was still kind of part of this fall out of the high school thing and you just feel like Oh you know look at this guy and honestly to even though he was kind of weird hybrid center power forward. That's what was so appealing about him is that he could face up a little bit but he could still do some of that traditional stuff and he would've been in his prime younger a really nice player today because he was a really. I thought a pretty good athlete and he's slowed down a little bit. But after that Pacers thing I mean it was over like his career was kind of like over by the time he was twenty nine and he still played another six or so years. So I I don't mean to be harsh about it. Like he had a good year in nine ten in Miami at the thirty one but he's playing twenty eight minutes. He scorned thirteen and seven. And he's he's just kind of a rotation guy at that point even though he was somebody I still really liked. I liked it. I didn't I didn't have them that high but I'm not anti Jermaine O'Neal at all. So what they with him that I didn't realize he made thirteen mile embiid. Oh Two endo three. And then he made second team on four so for three straight years she was a top fifteen guy and a top ten guy no four and I think he would have been a top ten guy. No five to the Malay hadn't happened. I also think this point can't be hit strongly enough. I really do think the o five pacers were the best. Nba team that year. And now you could say well the resonating winners because run. Our test was a lunatic and got a new huge melee and and the seeds of it were planted during that. Fight that that precipitated. The Malay team was going to blow up anyway. That team is there is just too much craziness on that team. That never they never could have made a month. You can make that case but that Oh five. Finals was one of the more unsatisfying finals. It never felt like those were the two best teams. Just two series itself. Wasn't that good. That Spurs team that won Dunkin it just was not like a peak Dunkin performance. I think he's pretty banged up. I really think it was the best team that year. And he was the best guy in that team. So that's got a matter too. Yeah but that was also that that final where we had some you know. Eighty four to sixty nine and game. Yeah speedco any other lake that stuff. Though they remember the year before the Detroit they had like a sixty six to sixty game. Yeah there's there's worse wants to point out which I think we should do as a reliable. We should watch the worst playoff game in modern history. Like one of those one of those games at seventy to sixty or something with the Pistons. No I know the game was Celtics. Pistons 'cause I went to sixty six sixty four final. I think there's another one Stanford Steve hit me up with this. He said I think there's some Knicks game where I forget who the famous guy was. He'd bet on the game but he also done lightning on it. So you pay a penalty on how many points under or you win over. And he had the over and it went like thirty points under so opposite double-check. Stanford's Steve Checked in. It'd be like hey you guys should do this all right so you got your main O.`Neil I'M GONNA hit five. So you're you're now in the clock at number six which sort of in the Celtics pick. I'm going to tell Cam you take the mass pike in and be a Celtic Can't be played. Seventeen years yes. I thought he was going to be better. His Lee your the most points per game. He ever scored was his rookie year with Toronto. Fifteen again that's the most. He ever scored for a season and was double figures. Twelve ten twelve eleven and he basically wasn't again until you get to Denver a little bit defensive player of the year. I just felt like he did more at Umass offensively that we get to the NBA. I don't know if it's because he was skinny. I don't know if it was strictly because the roster development and the has a way of kind of eating itself in that. Oh yeah right like as good as you were in college like you have to adjust to us. I do think Camby was going to have to make that adjustment that he was going to be a good player. A role player so. I guess I ended up being wrong but I was watching me at thirty two in that. First Game Against Kentucky when Kentucky was number one it was at the palace it Auburn Hills. Umass was fifth. That umass thing was weird for all of us that were from eastern mass. Because we're like are. We really rooting for Western mass. But it was so much fun with cal Leroux the year before. And all those guys so I I really thought that can be was going to be able to do a little bit more offensively. And he showed it to Umass and then he just kind of became a very specific not a role player. That's that's not saying enough about him. He's a starter play for a long time but I still thought there was a version of him that we had a higher ceiling after the break. I'm GonNa read you all the trades. Marcus Camby was ever involved in thanks to talk about one of my favorite companies roots of fight. We've never talked about them on this podcast except for when they made a bunch of Ringer sweatshirts for us our absolutely ridiculous. A great go to their website. You can find awesome. T shirts. Sweatshirts hoodies They did a black history tribute thing for with Joe Louis Mohammed Ali Jack Johnson. 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Two thousand two traded by the Dick's with nee and Mark Jackson for Antonio mcdyess Frank Williams and a second round pick two thousand eight traded by Denver with two thousand ten second to the Clippers for second round draft pick. That was like the rare. Good clipper straight. 'cause he was actually half decent that year and in had some trade value Traded in two thousand ten February to the Blazers for steelers. Willie Warren. Will he warned there? You Go February two thousand ten traded the Trailblazer Steve. Blake and Travis outlaw. Had a nice little Blazers to surgeons then traded to Houston for Johnny Flint had beaten the second. Oh we're not done traded to the Knicks for Tony Douglas Josh Harrison Jerome Jordan and a second then shorts traded to the knicks with Novak Quinton Richardson and a second for Andrea Bark. Donnie side knows Steve. Novak would be a Max player in today's game. No question so he was he. He was involved in a lot of stuff. I have a great marcus. Camby fact for you he makes. He has the iconic lockout ninety nine playoffs. Run where you and gets hurt. And they're actually better off with candy. They come back the next year. They almost make the finals again. In Two Thousand Indiana beat some. He then makes the playoffs two three four ten more times. I ran at every time. Yeah but the differences between like. I hold the playoffs stuff against you unless I really like. You will find a way to spend my favor but if you're the lead guy it's kind of on you. Where can be Obama for that? I'm just ten straight. I read Assamese as really really that. Have to be near record right. Ten th straight if people ship a mellow mellow be like. Hey you've heard of Marcus Camby. Lick it off my back because I always felt like mellow knocks. Were like mellow every time. You Look at mellows playoff losses. When they're all the first round exits. They almost always lost the team. That was better than them anyway. to that's a pro mellow thing but it's it's just sounds better. Be like sucks new plants. So I probably can't be do you dude. I Bake a mistake. How do you look at the board right now? I I have a Marcus Camby point. That's just for you. I'M GONNA. I'm GONNA lightly frightened some sesame oil and give you a dipping sauce so there and you could just eat it. 'cause you're going to enjoy it so much on hold. How should I put on His Jersey for this? You don't have take two seconds. Marcus Camby ahead of time. Yeah if if you take nine thousand nine hundred and Marcus Camby and you move him forward twenty years. He's like the perfect five yesterday. Tyson Chandler still making money. I Marcus Camby would have been like a potentially like really demand. Thank if if Cappella ends up getting fourteen million a year and a first round pick if I can do is better than clink cappella right. I don't know I think Capello was a product of Capelle ended up being better than I thought he'd be but Capello also was a massive beneficiary of art. You know who said it? But he's freaked out the whole time seventh pick. It's tough. I had these guys I had I had can be Wallace and stereoscopic all all huddled together. I guess I'm taken Ben Wallace at seven undrafted which remains incredible Because he was like six six school Virginia away shorter kind of pride that I would have wanted Chicago signs away from Detroit. It's a big deal and within a year is kind of like kind of like semi luggage. They wouldn't let him wear a headband. Remember is weird but They you could argue. He was the best player in the two thousand four Pistons in that playoff run. He's he might have been the most valuable. I know Chauncey won the finals. Mvp And I think it's hard to say who is the most important port in that piston steam because one of these that made them special. Was those five guys together in the way they complement each other. And how good defensively? They were but Ben. Wallace was an absolutely destructive Player there for you look at four straight five straight years Jesus Dating back to Orlando just completely blowing it and getting rid of them in the In the grand held trade just having no idea what the have or what they had you go after that he shows up in Detroit in two thousand one and from two thousand one to two thousand five. He's thirteen rebounds a game three blocks a game and one and a half steals a game like he's his black steals their for half a decade are Hakeem. David Robinson in person was same thing like it really did feel like he was the best defensive player in the League The biggest defensive asset. Anybody had there for a while. He he held his own against shack. Those in Oh four when shack was really trying to go back into the way back machine and really only had one Grega game against them and I don't know I mean. He brought so many bad things to the table. The free throw shooting was abominable. He was an offensive liability but just figured out how to do so many different things. I would just rather have him than anybody else on this list. So there you go. I loved him. Yeah the best version of him was unbelievable the way he could switch he's listed six nine. I don't know I don't even know but it didn't matter. It was unbelievable watching what he could do as a defensive player. And that's what I really love about. That Pistons team is that you had wallace. You could switch out to anyone on the perimeter like he just could then you had chauncey who could switch and defend some power forward and the post. He wasn't going to give up because John was so damn strong. And smart and taste Sean. Had linked to at least challenge a little bit and then Rashid's there who could kind of be all over the place. I mean it was really an incredible roster one through five of guys that you're just found a way to complement each other. I remember look. I thought when we were making fun of the idea that you know we liked Some of my Mrs Marcus. Fizer being one of them when I wanted. Wallison is fourth year to Orlando. I liked. I liked him I. He played eighty one games that year. I you know I always kind of like a little bit. But you're right. I mean never cracked double figures. He ended up in the thirty percent of the free throw line. It was getting awful. I mean it was like he was flirting with fifty and then it got worse and I remember Larry. Brown is always a very good lesson too for younger. Who people down there like. They were giving Ben Wallace in touch. Remember Weird that was when they Oklahoma City would let perk at the first offensive touch of every game and he would like to play in the post and you just grab. What are you doing right? I that was sort of just this thing that the thunder always seem to want to do probably westbrook wanted to do it. And everybody just sells had listen But Larry Series Larry. Brown would talk about wanting Ben Wallace. You get more touches and I'd go. Why would you ever do that with this? Guy's zero an offense but it was a really good point is that it sucks to just rebound defend all game so the more we can get him a touch every now and then the more engaged. She's going to be so when there are plays run. That aren't the best offensive option. Stand that there's a payoff to it. If you have the right guy and Wallace was that guy peak wallace. I just loved his first. Seventy Five playoff games for the Pistons from. Oh Two oh. Five is fourteen rebounds a game two point six blocks two point zero steals as mattis and he he barely even cracked ten points a game during that stretch but I never did is one of those guys that if you bet against them. You know if you're actually like literally gambled against the Pistons in a playoff game. I I just hated going against them. I was felt like he was GonNa do the right thing at the right time. And I gotTA say the O. Five finals him in Rasheed together. The job they did on Dunkin Dunkin's never been treated like that defensively over the course of two weeks in his peak like he was in that like they really. They really throttled them. So I'm going seven. He goes to the clippers. The number eight pick. This would have been the nets. Who Do you have? I also didn't I should've mentioned rip Hamilton in that group Real quick on Wallace. Follow up would he thrives today or a liability. Because it's a tough answer. I'm not sure I have the answer. I think he's worse off now because you can't play for five offensively now with the spacing out. I don't know where he would stand on the court. I mean you'd almost have to use him. Like Philly was using Ben Simmons during those playoff games when they didn't know where to put him and he was just kind of circling around on the baseline. That's really the only thing you could do with them. Otherwise he would screw up. You know he would either clog the middle or he would scream. You could set picks them. But nobody's GONNA guard him stepping off for three or anything. I don't. I'm not really sure what you would do. I think he was in the right area. Okay but that's the argument against but think about the big guys that he had to defend at his size that he's giving up all the time and now if you look at how small the frontlines on it. I still think if you're good enough you can get away with one guy that's on an offensive threat. I mean the goal now is to put five guys out there to get your bucket but I think Wallace would beat. I'm betting on Prime Wallace to find a way to abuse the other five in a size down league to maybe even get you a few more points. Just because he's dominating the board so much So I'm not going to completely write him off because of spacing. No I don't either. I just think he was in the right area. I think within that would have really helped him. Was How many more possessions and the pace of how people play now. I think you know he was so athletic. Guy He would've loved that right versus. Yeah just getting up and running around saying yes on that now you talked me into maybe better now. Let's bring him in. There was money All right you're the pet. Could he have Pasia? Yep there's an argument for pasia ahead a CHAMBI ahead of Wallace. Oh Yeah M- you know pasia flirting you know. Probably better off the top of your head but what did he come in second? Mvp One year was of it but he was or was he just on the conversation. And I'm not remembering the voting. No he had he had a year was the first team on only made three all star teams. Oh Yeah Oh forty second team all NBA and yeah he was he fourth in the two thousand four. Mvp's at possible. I thought there was. Yeah he was way up there. Yeah are two thousand four. Mvp Ballot Kevin Garnett. I Duncan Second. Jermaine O'Neal third page of four. Kobe Bryant five shack. Six Ben Wall seven saying shack out loud sixt just sounds bucket stupid but that was the air when he I know but it was. That was right. It was after everything had gone down but I don't know this is one of those shack. Mvp things so it's funny. Pasia was another little head of his time. Guy Never took never took seven threes in a season year after years. Starting Oh one. He's shooting forty percent from three. He has basically an entire decade until two thousand nine of shooting forty percent for three from. Oh One two oh. Eight forty one percent from three taking almost six game twenty a game. A guy who I think if these playing now would have been so much more dangerous and so much more fun to watch. It's hard to think of him without thinking of him brick in that shot against in game seven against the Lakers when he just add both hands around his neck but he rebounded at least a little bit from it yet big time numbers and he was huge. Like this guy was a guy that could handle? I mean he's listed six ten I you know. I don't know. We shave an inch year. But he never felt like the one. You never felt like okay. They're that's who their best player. Isn't you know. Go back to the beginning of the Weber stuff and how good that. Sacramento team was from a talent standpoint. But he put up some massive numbers fan would for somebody we never think of is like the key franchise guy. Just you're right those those middle years there. There's just it's unbelievable as the eighth pick of the strapped in this guy that still available. I'm GonNa Lightly Fried another great point and give you a little more dipping sauce with this one. Is HE KLAY WITH NO PR WHOA? I don't think I responded. Well enough to your fried appetizers thing on the candy thing I just sort of blown away by the whole deal and I was. Kinda maybe just saying I want to change into that Jersey debating tank top for the zoom anyway. But yeah what's he probably handled that ball? How a lot more than Clayton says has to be this. Beauty Klay doesn't dribble. He was just as good of a three point. Shooter is clay was he was actually. You could run entire offenses around him. I don't I actually think of clay was on a bad team. You could've run offenses runner but they were weirdly. Similar like what their skill sets. Were and clay. I think You know hits the Lottery and ends up with Steph. I think of Pasia had been on a team like that. We would have had one conversation about over the last ten years. When was the last patient stock conversation? Anyone said it's never happened. Yeah right like I forgot. He was in New Orleans for four years. He also had a very very sneaky. Nobody remembers this. Two Thousand Eleven mavs. Big Br- big brother to dirk kind of thing. Did he play in the playoffs for the look? Look at that play at seven point. Eighteen minutes a game for the eleven maps in the playoffs. Oh wait that's right. No no yeah I remember that yeah. Nobody nobody remembers that though he's never mentioned as like a member and pasia got his ring. A whole collection of those guys was that whole eleven. Mavs team is just so weird. Because you're like wait a minute. Who's his it was? He probably argue the least talented team. I Dunno at least yeah of the last twenty years lease talented team to win a title. It was certainly the The only team that only had one guy to win the title Kit. Jason Terry Terry Marianne Chandler Marion Great Role pasia. Yeah how about that and Rodney Blah? The untouchable Roddy beloit the asset. Nice pick this normally. We're only going to fourteen. Pick WAS DALLAS Marbury has officially fallen far enough. That guy was a huge asset. He I I remember when he ended up on Phoenix finally after the kid trade really really enjoying him in. Amari together that one playoff series against the suns. I you know. Put up huge numbers every night. You'd be like thirty and again from this guy and he's somebody that if you put him now and spread the floor for him. He was one of those guys that Kevin Johnson's like this From from way back there's guys now like this like Westbrook's definitely like this spread the four. He's going by people and getting the Rim Barbara could get by whoever wanted. If it is Marbury Lillard with the worst attitude four. Lillard cops on his ready. I don't know he You know it's a classic. What if he cagey gets his giant contract then the rules change and Marbury has just bummed out. He knows he's Never GonNa make nearly as much as cagey and will. Never be the number of guy in the team and push his trade to the nets and he stayed with stuff. It was one of those. Everyone was worse off by the traits. But you know I think we remember he gets he goes to the Knicks thinks. Get Super Weird in a bunch. Different ways finally ends up on that Weirdo Night Celtics team. The where Cagey wasn't playing and they supposed to be the missing piece score really excited about that. I was not. I was not excited. You weren't excited about that. Was everybody gets way too excited about buyouts. I just feel like Point guards especially the hit a point and there's no coming back where it's almost like running backs with Franco accepted. Where when they go from level one to level two or level three wherever they're just there's no rally back all right. You'RE UP TEN INDIANA DUDE. An hour and a half in. I know we're gonNA zoom through this. This is I could do a lot of different things here. There's one name out there was productive. Just do it. So it's the right. Pick still picks second-best player and a team that almost made the finals. I gotTA take one over. Sharieff have do you have to Sarai pick now on twelve? Is the best example go ahead? Why don't you take the floor here for a little bit? And I'll plug in anyhow. We don't need to do. We don't do ten minutes talker but he made multiple all star teams. Second Best Guy and it didn't. That almost made the finals like he sharieff. Sharieff never had one memorable basketball moment. Thuan is the second best player on a team that made the Eastern Conference finals. Oh one right no I understand but I really feel like if we're going to knock. I mean God take how bad the East really was for for that stuff to happen for them. Because they were or they. We have one point thinking they're gonNa play in the NBA finals. Like real like they're gonNA beat. The Nets took a two one lead in that series to lead. That's right they blow game for they lose game five and then that's come in and finish them off a game six but the blowing game four was you know. I think they could have won. If they didn't blow that. Can there is a version of Thuan and I have to have the version that we saw over twelve years? But there's a version of John that they could have been. His skill set was so high but Patino immediately hated him. But then Pitino was kind of like play defense and you guys can take all the bad threes you want his shot consciousness Consciousness was one of the worst of any player I've ever seen in my entire life except for his size he could handle. He could pass. He could do all these things but it just it was like it was just a little off. It was off just a little for it to actually be kind of tough to watch a really long stretches. And it wasn't a shock you know here's age before he's a GM of the Celtics trashing his game on TNT broadcast. And the first thing he does what he gets the GIG is gets out of there but I have a little bit of a soft spot in my heart for Taiwan also fully willing to admit that it was really gross for long stretches. I liken it to a little kid like the youngest brother in a big family who just nobody's paying attention to bonus Jonas. He had like the five kids. The sullivans in melrose and the youngest kid the other kids and one's in jail and one's football quarterback then there's that V kid nobody knows wherever is and he just develops a bunch of bad habits. Thuan was just unchecked for the first five years of his NBA career basically and was in bad situations and develop some bad habits but the thing that killed him was he lost confidence with free. Throw shooting in. Oh Two zero three and once that happened he stopped going to the line. He stopped driving to the basket and he just became this jump shooter and he was never really a good shooter when he was really good at was around the rim stuff and his passing and he had all these different tools but once he lost his free. Throw shooting confidence. It was a little like what happened to Rondo. When rather just didn't WanNA get fouled anymore. It completely changed how he played. It's really weird when you notice it too. Yeah and you usually only noticed if it's like your team you're watching them all the time like I remember. Pierce had this really weird stretch. Where he wasn't making free throws close late situations to the point where I went through and track them. All and then put it together was like he's eighty percent. He's like sixty three percent NI spots and I remember. I asked one of our guys at the Celtics go. Hey have you noticed this thing with? He Goes Oh my God and appears sorta figured it out and corrected He was fine again but Thuan Thuan would also put together. These moves for his size that most guys couldn't even dream of doing and then he just back rim it. Yeah I've never seen a guy break people down get open. These spin moves back. You Down Hooks both hands. He had all of this stuff and it was like. It was like a math equation. Where it looked at you did it. And you're like Oh look how good this is like. Yeah okay but that's outside the parentheses so none of this works. He was a really tough confident guy. Who knew where to go and what to do in a basketball court and he goes to Miami no six and plays big minutes for them and kind of knows where to go and what to do wasn't afraid to take bigshots shots. He was afraid to get foued obviously was not afraid to take big he was there was nothing more. Thuan than like up to fifty seconds to go. He brings it into the front core. He Jacks it because he wants to have the dagger shot and yet miss. He missed them all the time. Yeah he really wanted to eat hero ball with something that meant a lot to him all right. Four more picks left number eleven th pick who has taken in the actual draft. It was golden state. Well we'll do better than they did with that pick. I I'm going. Oh Gos- care you know. He hung around a lot longer than he should have. It seemed like when he when his feet started to go out on images see Mike. His career is going to be over in four five years. It ended up playing for a pretty long time where we see. He was twentieth in the actual draft but You Know He. He hung around and he was for his career was thirteen and seven. Can you thought he was toast is third year? In you. Didn't play would injure so miss? Basically his second and third season Lee comes back twenty five. And you're like this guy's shot and he had a nice run beloved teammate. So I I think that's our epic. Do you ever number twelve all right still a lot of value out there and now I could do roll guy here. Which is a re. There's go in the first round. There's one famous role guy left. Yeah although Jay y de Junkyard dodger all Williams out of Georgetown. Nice little run. But he's still too talented. I USED TO ARGUE FOR SHERIFF ABDUL RAHIM. Because he was he was the poster boy for his era of big numbers. Empty he sucks. His teams. Weren't very good. He was part of the sole thing that happened on trade night. Where SHARIA TO ATLANTA? And then they stunk to do you know off the top of your head. How many playoff games sharieff team played in his entire career? I do has won one playoff series six total. I used to fix Gabes. I used to call it the SCHRIEF door. Hime allstars for guys who just put up empty calories that would be the Sharieff. Mvp this year right. But don't I still have to take him twelfth? Yeah yeah that's so. He was good. He actually was good. And maybe it's grocer now when a guard puts up empty stats than a big. Yeah maybe that's maybe that's kind of cool version of NBA. Eras here is that you had the empty calorie guys that were bigger and now the empty calorie guys are all small to put to put his value in perspective. You have to look at a couple of trades in two thousand one. He's basically traded for the reds Topography Saul when pass it? Yeah in its witch Tinsley and I liked so Atlanta's like we could take Pao absol. This young kid from Spain or we could lock in a sheriff Abdul Rahim and that was a smarter smarter idea then it Oh four. He got traded with ratliff. Four was the Rasheed deal. Wasn't it whether person in Rasheed Wallace Rasheed? That's the Best Jersey ever. The Rasheed Wallace Fox Jersey because he played one game. Yeah that'd be like Tom Brady Bucks Jersey so you think he's only gonNA play one Game Thirteenth. Pick so much stain so mad. I get mad every day. Is Watching. Falcons Falcons Patriots Super Bowl. Today has how could he play for another team? This is in say cinema's greatest ever had I'm taking Kerry kittles with the thirteenth pick for. This'll be four. Oh Charlotte care. Kettles Good Charlotte jaw shorter career than it should have any. Add some health issues but I got to say the Celtics went against them in two straight playoff series. I was always scared. When he was open. He was one of those guys that when he missed. You were surprised and the stats. Don't actually back it up. He's that's okay but it just is one of those guys. There's something about how he carried himself and shot the basketball that you just felt like. Oh that's going in thirty thirty eight percent career. Three point shooter. He took three point. Six A game. fourteen point career score just got traded to the clippers in two thousand five in his career like basically abruptly ended but I was taught him at Kid. Where get together android that backward okay? The last pick Dante Jones member Mississippi state. I love that final four Melito still available. Rainy Livingston Go Tigers. Yeah let's talk about some of the guys that are available because we also have Derek Fisher is available Erick Dampier Travis. Night is available little Shannon Anderson Mucci Norris who brought in ten years in out of Georgia. Yeah Lorenzen Wright. You mentioned him. Jeff beginning James. Ns Chemistry killer. Yeah it's just. I can't believe you made the Joe quicker than I did as I was about to say it out loud priest Lauderdale just a couple of years at Central State University. But I'm sure a lot of dudes kind of liked him when they saw walk into a room. Like taking Fella Harrington twelve years in a you know why always sneaky like was Ryan minor out of Oklahoma. Did Not allow remember that. You GotTa go Derek Fisher here you know what I'm getting. I don't want him to coach my executive but I wanted to be a guy that I trust and for some reason extended his career and other four or five years by dribbling into everybody on open layups because he could never get a fucking shot off against anybody towards the end in the ref gave him the call every damn time down the court so if I know. I'm getting that if I know I'm getting as soon as Fisher slows down. The rest are going to bail him out for another four or five years. GimMe that guy. He played eighteen seasons. He's fifth in this class in minutes. Thirty two thousand seven hundred nineteen minutes. The advanced metrics do not like them but came up big in a lot of big games. Well that was More points than Marcus Camby. That was really fun. I gotta ask you before we go. This is Chris Ryan Brought this up in a later. Draft that we'd already recorded guy that you still having given up on even though he's retired. Guy. You're still keeping your fingers crossed. The WHO's the Jeff Green in this draft for you. I said Ryan minor but he was busy. He had other stuff going on. You know who I always right John Wallace out of Syracuse. Because John Wallis he's he's a really good example he was gonNA leave after his junior year is a big. He's kind of like he really is like a poor. Man's Derrick Coleman talent production. Right and Wallace has this great run with Syracuse. Get to the title game. And they're like look. How much guy improved his stock and he went eighteenth which is pretty much gonNa go after his junior year. I always thought that the John Wallace stories one of the it wasn't even a lesson. It was specific to him. But here's this guy comes back massive numbers. He was so much fun in that tournament. Nba body face up for big. All these things you think he plays accuse good time you know just awesome production and he went in the exact same spot would have gone to come out of the earlier. You left out. He got game. I haven't seen that. Wow Yeah he's in there. He got game him Travis. Best and And Walter McCarty Earl in there My Guy that I have not given up on yet even though I probably should Jason Baylis not no. I'm GONNA say the Jamwal's was a really good one. You know almost WANNA say Travis night but I don't say Walter McCarty. I saw Tony Fifty three point game. I watched the first year I had league pass. I watched it live. He was unstoppable. The crazy thing is he wasn't taking threes. I don't think he made at three. In the game. It was all mid range and up and unders and lay ups and when the Celtics made the terrible Joe Johnson Trade to get him and Rodney. Rogers I gotta say as much as I hated giving up a Joe Johnson Fifty Games. They had a chance to make the finals. I thought Tony Delk was going to push them to another level. I was all that so I've always enjoyed his game. He thought he was very vinnie. Johnson ish I love the Joe Johnson Trade. 'cause it's the worst and the way terrible related to me. Was that like Thuan. Pierce were mean to him. Yeah right so so because they were mean to him. It's like well. Let's trade him for Rodney. Rogers not going to resign and delicate was nice piece of that. But my favorite delk stuff is Ashley Judd. Apparently she was legitimately into him in delk was like too shy. Tony delk Too Shy so thanks for watching the nineteen ninety-six redraft. 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The Zen Garden

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44:45 min | Last week

The Zen Garden

"Welcome to get sleepy. The podcast when we listen we relax and we get sleepy. My name is thomas and i'm your host. Thank you for tuning in tonight. Will enjoy a tranquil tour of japanese. Zen garden with the guidance of a monk will relax among flowering plants and trickling fountains peacefully observing the serene settings. Most of us have had of. It's the school of. Buddhism originated in india developed in china amend spread throughout asia but regardless of our beliefs oh backgrounds. It's the elegant. Simplicity of zen garden. That we will focus on tonight and the relaxation. That'd jesus before that laura a quick thank you to our sponsors it summer again in the northern hemisphere and that means hot sunny days and sometimes nights that are to warm to get to sleep and to brooklyn crisp sheets that brief to keep you cool even on these hot nights brooklyn works directly with manufacturers to make luxury available to you without a luxury level markups. They have buttery. 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So let's unwind and do just take a deep breath in holding for a moment and then release as the breath flows out so to any lasting energy has carried over from the day. It's time to put things down and switch off breathing deep clean and release however you feel at this moment just know that you are in the right place to get a this after rast easy to feel a sense of anxiety or frustration if it takes a little while for us to switch off the mind and to make our way toward sleep but just remember that you are able to rest your body and come. You're thinking even before you've noted off to dreamland so without any pressure continue with some slow soothing graphs and you can simply follow the sound of my voice as she gradually make your way to sleep. You allow your mind to drift to a quiet peaceful place nestled somewhere in the forests of japan. This is where our story begins in your union. The brief of the temple cavs upwards like a smile the wounds are white while the columns and roof a rich glossy brown. It's a sunny spring morning and the leaves of the trees flatter in the slight breeze. We've no one else around. It's the pathak picture of serenity. You the only visitor to set foot inside the gardens of they systolic temple fast. Need a special letter of permission. There are no crown wits and new tourists. Only you waiting to be met by your guy. The young man who comes to greet creaky is a monk he's had shaved and he wears long black chrome introduces himself as utah and says that he is one of the many send buddhist monks who live at the nearby ministry tempos restricted access and remote location. Mean that they don't get many visitors saw today. He was show you around a famous zen garden and sharon a little about these fast. You walk together around the temple. His pace is slow but deliberate and he seems to be paying careful attention to every moment. Normally you would work more quickly but you. You taste relaxed pace. Encourages you to slow down to. There's no reason to hurry as no plan or timetable. It's refreshing to be able to forget about time for a while and to simply enjoy the experience living in the moment you stroll down a tree lined path side by side and begins to tell you about his life as a monk. He's wide are slow and measured as he steps and he has a low calming voice. Life in the monastery funds strict routine the monks way capacity before dawn and catherine the temple to meditate then ate breakfast together in silence. Mindful of each other's company focused on the activating. The rest of the day is spent meditating studying carrying out various cuties in the ministry and temple such as cooking and cleaning for example utah spent this morning sweeping and mopping the floors job. He finds relaxing and satisfying utah. Explains that when you are in the right state of mind you can find pleasure in everything. A life of early mornings no meditation settings and hours if domestic work may not seem enjoyable. What fast bottom mindful attitude makes all the difference. Matt's is hugh. You are what you believe you taste says you can benefit from the zan mindset. Appreciate the simple things in and devote your full attention to whatever you're doing in that moment one prefab says when woking when eating you stand together in silence and look at the landscape taking a deep breath you focus your attention on the small pond in front of noticing how the surface ripples slightly in the breeze You can see. The reflection of the trees meriden. The water looking up united states the elegant cavs of the branches and the vibrant green of the leaves. It's as if you had never truly taken the time to really look and tone this moment you continue to admire the scene. Your gaze drifting down to the pond and back up to the branches. The longer you are more relaxed you feel. You can feel your preps becoming slower. I'm with each breath. Deepening sense of peace and well-being eventually utan to look at ut. Here is still standing beside. His gaze remains fixed on the trees in front of him. He must have walked past these same trees. Hundreds saw even thousands of times. They must be so familiar on remarkable and yet he still happy to stand looking enjoying the peace of the moment outlast. You two tons away and begins to win con you. Follow him through the temple gardens past trees of every kind pines magnolias and even a few cherry blossom trees. You're impressed by the beauty of the cherry blossoms on the delicate pink potomac drift to the ground in a slow shower. But you tell us a lesson in. Mindfulness has helped you to appreciate the more ordinary trees to to sing. The patent on the trunks have sat and branches. Before you might have looked at the cherry blossoms putin now you can see the beauty in everything. The gardens around the tampon while knocked off the flowerbeds are neat and tidy and all the plants and trees seem to be thriving patmos of vacated landscape seems wild when compared to the zen garden. It is this special garden. You've come here to see you've had of these remarkable ordered gardens at this temple. They are not ordinary greenspaces. Terada carefully arranged rectangles of sand or gravel decorated with rocks and small plants. Fast sang gardens were built in the tempos of kyoto. In the fourteenth century they went design to create a space for meditation representing the essence of nature. An area of raked sand might represent the sea with iraq as an island and a hill as a temple. A sand might be swelling clouds with the rocks is mountain tops rising into the on each gardening unique. And you're curious to see this particular design until an more of its symbolism guiding union now around the back of the temple and along a narrow gravel path slips down the hill utah takes you to a stone bench halfway down the slide and gestures for you to sit down. He explains that. It's not necessary to end to this end garden to appreciate in fact gardens like this were designed to be viewed from a single position it sounded like gazing at painting horoscope charon a gallery the viewpoint from this bench when allow you to appreciate the garden to the fullest experiencing it as its creators intended. The garden is a large rectangular space surrounded by a low wall. It masonry consists of gravel and some gray some white but there are also various small clients rocks and even a miniature waterfall among is slowly raking the gravel in a curved pattern. You explains but to raking essang. Garden is a meticulous mindful task. It's an art that requires special attention. The gardner must choose the right kind of rape and the appropriate movements to create the shape. He desires the pats in navan wave ripple a stream or a drop of water while they may sound similar. Each one is a distinct design. These graphical patenting this a particularly striking late in the afternoon when the long shadows highlight every edge and ripple effect is also important reminder of change while the garden may seems static. It's never exactly the same. The sun shifts the water flows and time passes as you gaze at the garden. You look for these subtle changes and transitions monk with the rate reaches the wome and then carefully steps to the side to avoid trampling his united states that he's wearing a special soft shoes which are less likely to leave footprints in the gravel. Uta says that walking through the rate gravel of his own garden is a little like levitating king mortar every movement is made with the optimized cash. Patten's that the monk is creating in the sand represent water in fact every carefully arranged feature of the sangatte garden has a kind of symbolism pump. The exact nature of this symbolism is open to interpretation for example. One famous sang garden in kyoto in so abstract that has attracted countless readings over the years. Tigar with comps odyssey mountain tops imagining through the clouds while in office sea islands in a stream according to one study the reason for the gardens calming effect maybe subliminal when viewed from a satin vantage point symmetrical lines create the shape of a tree. Trunk takes the form of an invisible line stretching out in front of the viewer while the branches on the spaces between small groups of rogues people find beauty in the image without outlet conscious minds even realizing what s seeing. Oh perhaps the gardiner who created this design. Five hundred years ago did so unconsciously moved by the mysterious impulses deep within him as for the garden. Your visiting now. You has his own explanation. This small moss covered hill which is topped by a graceful. Juniper tree represents the legendary mountain of the immortals water from the flows down. The side is a symbol of human vitality. This mortar then flew into the white sand which represents the stream of life as the sack of sand expand outwards into the gravel. See what is left is the expensive time and existence way. The garden is a kind of allegory for the journey of life. But utah says that. It's important to find your own meaning rothem and relying on enough interpretation. He suggests she spent some time here alone. Forming your own relationship with the zen gardens shapes patterns and symbols. When you're ready you can come to find in the temple gardens. You should take your time. No rush you tell walks away leaving you alone on the bench not entirely alone. Of course you can see the monk in the garden still raking the gravel. But from where you're sitting you're too far to took to or interact with him. Happy just to watch and you wouldn't want to interrupt him. He seems safe focused on his wife. Completely absorbed by the repetitive yet calming motions of the rank grazing. The surface of the grapple. If you listen carefully you can even hear the soft sound of the stones shifting rising and falling as they create new lines and ripples. You hadn't noticed this sound before along you spend in front of the garden. The mole you become aware of other sounds and sensations gradually filter into your consciousness. Like the gentle trickle of the waterfall and the melody of the batsom from nearby trees united have economies of the garden change as the clowns passover hiding and then revealing the son. Sometimes you focus on one detail. At the time you allow your gaze drift slowly from left to right watching the shrimp the hill the waterfall rock and finally the monk men you look back in the opposite direction right to left the rock the waterfall hill. I strap the only movements are the fleming water and the monk gently dragging the rake through the gravel. And yet somehow it seems different every time it subtle almost imperceptible different. There are other moments when you try to draw your gaze outwards to see. The garden is an assembled home rather than individual parts in some forms of sand. Meditation the aim of the practice is to be aware of the totality instead of focusing on a single object. The practitioner seeks conscious awareness of the home without attachment judgment or interpretation. In this moment. You are looking not meditating. Simple active looking his becoming more meaningful and more relaxing as you remain. Aware of the garden is a whole gazing at the scene. As you would a painting you feel a deep sense of calm. You breathe in deeply and watches. The monk continues his slow kafue passage through the garden. If you stay and watch until sunset perhaps he will still be here. Creating endless beautiful patterns between the rocks and hills After a while the low wounds if the garden seem to fade you're no longer aware if any boundary between the neat ordered garden and the wilder nature that surrounds it. You start to feel as though you might be part of the garden yourself somehow inside it rothem watching from a distance everything is touching connected by matching lines and grace will patents whether not true on my mate on reflection. They s- is what makes the garden so beautiful. The exact symbolism of individual aspects seems less important than the unified and the sense of peace and happiness and gives you spending on long time in ordinary untamed. Nature might have the same effect with our little patients. The knee taught history of the sang garden hawks the visitor to achieve this realization more easily. As you gaze at the garden your mind comes and clear and you gradually sink into a deeper awareness of the wild that surrounds you. If you stay here longer you might continue to notice new details. You feel ready to move on and to see what house utah might share you. It doesn't take long to find him after. Just a few minutes of strolling through the temple gardens. You see you sitting on a bench beneath the shade of the trees. He's sitting so stan with such calm expression attack fast you think he might be meditating but he greets you at once and asks about your experience in the zen garden. Come together discussing the garden and other aspects of the temple whenever you ask a question. He pauses for a moment before answering. He does this every time even though he must have the answer on the tip of his tongue. It's so different from the rapid pace of conversations that you're used to. Perhaps he wants to give your question. The respectful contemplation. He fails it to or it may be that he does everything. Slowly recognizing that last rally any need to rush. Now he's taking you to another part of the temple complex to a small building surrounded by trees it's a simple one story building with cream colored wombs and translucent windows this you explains he's the teahouse. There's a long history of tea ceremonies. In zen buddhism it began in the twelfth century when a japanese monk traveled to china and returned to his homeland with mattress and a special technique for preparing it since then it has been an important ritual for many people in japan a treasured part of the culture tea houses are not necessarily connected to zen buddhism as many of them were built by samurai and much. It's not only monks but you can see this and influence in the simplicity of the architecture which is inspired by nature and as you will soon discover the ceremony at south seems to represent the essence of then. You stand path to the teahouse and take off your shoes at the door as you enter you. Awestruck by the beautiful minimalism of the building a single room with no furniture and only one decoration. A scroll painting of a mountain you time invites you to set on the floor or he prepares attained before he begins. The ritual explains that this is a moment. He savors every single time. It's a ritual of gratitude. Just for the tea itself hone experience. He feels grateful for your company to own after washing your hands and a small stone. Basin you kneel on the floor and watch him. Prepare the tea in silence fast. He brings out the tools a little white bom and a scrape made of bamboo. A white linen cloth and container of hot water. Then he cleans the utensils thoroughly with the same catholic tension of the monk raking the garden. Once everything is clean it's time to make the team. He mixes the bright green matchup pounder with hot water starring rapidly until it becomes a pace and then a rich full bodied tea. It has a strong distinctive. Smell that reminds you will of the c. You close your eyes to save the senate breathing in deeply. Utah hands you the bone of steaming tea. You cradle the ball in your hands or moment waiting for it and then take it somehow tastes both bitter and sweet at once. You resist the instinct to judge and to decide whether you like it or not instead. You simply hold the taste on your tongue. Neetu singh the balance of flavors as you. Sit the t. Slowly you think of the garden you can still see in your mind inside the pathak rectangle of gravel and sand the minute cherry hill with its trickling waterfall graceful movements of the month fill with a sense of contentment and gratitude. San you have to continue your journey. But you know that wherever you go you take. The memory with garden is not just a place a state of mind. And you can visit time

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Be on Your Own Side in Life - Meditation | Chris Perrier | 26 May 2021

Buddhist Society of Western Australia

1:00:25 hr | 2 months ago

Be on Your Own Side in Life - Meditation | Chris Perrier | 26 May 2021

"Well good evening. Everybody walk to those people who can whole also welcome to the people on the internet. It's an odd. We have special guest along to give the talk to not. He's nine mr crisp area. Mrs beta a long standing member of the society and a chicken chicken law started No well before. I you a yogi. At one point in the hindu tradition and ease work through from the think geologist wrought the white through to in being a clinical psychologist and very very welcome. Member of the society is Helped around the many many eads. So chris will introduce. He's talked to auden. Another will be very interesting for you so without further ado. I welcome and invite chris to give us talk and the midday shift for us tonight. Thanks tennis just before. I also i just let you now. To the carolinas now are the the fine lawns. The and if you have a look on your screen you can see the telephone numbers e and also you're able to see that we do have a free call so you can bring on what's up the what's time the attorney so the listeners implies in the chaos ready to take your call so without further do now. I call on chris to give talk next. So it's good to be back in the physically in buddhist center. It's been awhile since i've been here. Usually watch on on the internet. So that's good okay. So this evening the title of the talk to saving or decision to save knees taking care of yourself which leads to self compassion. And so i thought i'd just actually start off with a few questions few people we can do something. That's very centering tonight. And berry calming tonight or we can do something which is stretching your brain and stretching your limits around the sort of thing side you want crazy session or do you want to be stretched and maybe got us some places before any cruise cruise hands up for crews has stretch stretch. Today's strategies so. I wanted to talk a little bit about compassion and self compassion. And if you look on the internet today you'll see a lot of information about taking care of yourself and self compassion and a lot of it and also subscribe to these few in the past that you know being to yourself with is really very important But oftentimes we come from situations way one pot of believes that we should be conto cells and take good care of ourselves but then we have an internal or civil war going on with their inner critic which launches kanter attacks on a sudden tells us things like we're not worthy to to be bothered to take care of their sales what i found most pervasive in my professional work As a psychologist ease the immense amount of self. abandonment way. You know no. I should do this. should take care of himself in the showed. Exercises should do this. And the rod vegetable. I if it can be caused by a number of things it can be caused by lack of energy which can because by a lot of things a lot of things but it also can be caused by actually. Adopting the energy to ourselves of i couldn't be belted. That has been suggested to spy Difficult situations in life in their past Psychologists have a bad rep for Plowing in the past and digging up problems and all that sort of stuff. I don't think very fruitful to go back into all that sort of stuff i only to the extent. I think it's fruitful is where the past haunts the present. And so. what are those things which causes to be unkind to us and you might experience that in terms of certain triggers interpersonal situations. Maybe persons tanta boyce certain. Look it. It could be things that you say to yourself or memories that are triggered from the past so What we are is that the first woundings of the hot occur in relationship usually terada relationship from people that maybe either wouldn't or couldn't take care probably things which wounds which are occur in the heart from these situations can be healed from extending and feeling the love from someone else's heart in other words for us to be kind to sills. We first of all need to be kind. We festival need to be able to receive kindness from others. Okay so often especially if we've been hurt or or had painful experience. The pa specially in a personal situation. General sense that wilson just placed on trust and trust people out there. I'll just run my hands. Shai thank you very much. And i'll be completely independent and i'll minimize my needs right down to a very very low and i'll just mike my wife through life. Lock that and that's like the horse. The guy that tried to the donkey to walk through the desert without ever drinking any water any almost succeeded and at the last minute the donkey dropped from lebanon thirst and so we really can't bet approach doesn't really work. We really need to. If we had not had these these experiences in the past we do find that we have a civil war going on 'self when we try to Look sales better. Take care of myself speeco into cell in philly important that we begin to harness whatever resources are out there in society at first experience of taking of compassion is being taken care all hopefully by in the in the arms of their parents and we really need to feel that feels like to be really dependent and very vulnerable and know that it is siphoned. That mother would drop us or leave at levers at the supermarket. If we're a baby and so how can we. If we've got a deficit in these experiences how can we actually do something about that. Now when we're an adult and so there are a couple of different ways that we can begin to han us the sorts of experiences out in the world so often when we have these sorts of background environments where we have had emotional deprivation issues and the very harsh inner critic situations we seek to find one relationship which will fix it all and usually. That's a primary relationship and when that's going on any problems that are known to worry about all business but when that doesn't go well or we got on the rocks have separation or something like that. Then there's a strong of instability. Now what i'm going to say to you is that it's possible to actually. Maybe begin to garnish some sense of connectedness in lots of different ways in allied. Some really interesting some really interesting research over the last ten years. The churn that one of the major marcus for longevity love leading a long life and our long and healthy life is the strength of al not necessarily intimate relationship sola very very important but the strength of their weak bones a week bonds. Do we say hello to the person that makes a cup of coffee. Adam how they are when we pray coffee break down at morning. Tea it work. Do we know the person that delivers the pipe or to another person that we buy milk from dan at the supermarket or someone that we bump into at the at a sporting event. Or something like that. It's not like we are actually having been many full experiences. But we get a sense of a friendly smile a little bit here a little bit there little bit all over the place and it starts foam a saints that we are held in community and that multiplied ibiza. News and years reduces what we call alice. Static load like the rucksack of rocks that we hold in have backpack carried through life. We all got a backpack with waitz of one form or another and when we have the sense of connection and the sense of filth supporting little wise like this that wreck rucksack gets a little bit lada. And there's the little lists wear and tear on our system and so out of a sense of feeling connected in these ways in these very superficial ways really. I belong to has a very profound effect on a health. Sar do say hello to the person that makes you coffee in the morning then th the barista and try to small at the person that will worse and calls and them. Hey is being because it's a two way street. You might be smiling at them. And mike and there. But i just in tune Respond in kind and make your day a little in a little way inside. Let's just start off with ways that we can begin to develop us hops sensitivity to receive receiving the good vibes receiving the saints. Ob being cared about because without that. It's very difficult to go forward. So i just want you to close your eyes. And i want you to actually just imagine a couple of different situations. The first situation is think of a social situation or a family situation where you've been doing stuff with someone. Some people may be a sporting group may be sitting and having a cup of coffee at work with friends or something like that or even family members but someone says something and then make an observation about you and they really hit the mark they see you they get it they understand. I see beyond the superficial down to a deeper level of who you are. Okay see if you can bring up a situation like that in that situation. See the picture that's going on right now. The bdo body skin. What's it feel like to be seen in that pleasant safeway. What does that feel like. What's happening in you chist. What's happening in your neck. What's happening in israel. What's happening botox. That feel like and how do you think about yourself in that situation. What words go along with that video. What words go along with that feeling in the body like oh god. Dano that's he gets me much he or she gets me. I understand whatever it might be or unsafe. Okay us pictures. Side those words to yourself. Run the video through feel the feelings in your body. where you're feeling that sense of connectedness. Hold all of those at the same time then very gently put your hands on your lap and tap tap starting now backwards and foot left and right side live fraud lip fried fried left right left right left keep guy brought brought holding those images holding those words noticing the feeling in your body stop stop tapping just to gain emotionally and physically has your body feel how's your mind in terms of scattered versus peacefulness has your emotions stillness scattered us once again. Bring up the video. Run the words about yourself on site for them on monks friends or whatever whatever it might be drop dropped into the body. See if he can reestablish that feeling of being safe when you go to all of those start you tapping stop tapping a deep breathing thing. Ray that chick house as mind Mind how safe do you feel. How connected do you feel your body. That feels like it is another boys in you. That's poohing all quantum. Is that voice in the background. Coming into the present moment right now knowing that this is absolutely al-qaeda giving yourself permission to do this and enjoying any sense of stillness and increased well-being of safety that you might feel right now from dwelling on this positive experience. Notice we that's lanes in your body. What does that good feeling. Feel in your body. Maybe some words to go with once again a third time bring up the image being sane. Run the video through. Run the words through to yourself. Hold a feeling a will being anybody that results from being seen and start your tapping okay. Stop the tapping scan the body. Be aware of any images that come up for you. Beware of any feelings in the body. Be aware the emotions take a mental picture of what this fields lock make. An ati tana resolution put a talk about an eddie tana. The first thing that you remember when you wake up tomorrow morning we'll be feeling this could feeling in this memory and then when you're ready open your electric positions and look up towards me so i notice some of you weren't tapping and that's okay. Tapping only is a form of stimulation if the left and right side of the bright. It comes from the traditional india with this sort of stuff. If you know what i'm talking about if but basically when you're stimulating the raw body it stimulates. Rats are the brian which causes information processing science for you there. That's why of the mystical traditions. You have contemplated who hold ideas. Similarly pictures words sensations videos and they pace backwards and forwards. If you have a look at the spanish cloisters monasteries. In spain in italy they always had these places with amongst walk. The sufis do decide. The buddhists tradition as well so this idea of marrying movement in the body with emotions off these in the mind makes it stick the idea of just holding. The idea in mind is kind of like a top dan thing and that works but when you marry it with the bottom up stuff like the strength of the aborigines that will danger the danger. Their experiences a lot of the time to get it. Get them granted. So how did that guy for you. How did you increase or any any challenging the liberal of willoughby who just didn't affect them at all okay who found that more relaxed okay. What about joy safety increasing safety. Yeah okay that's the one. There are five categories That we can use this for. We can harvest these experiences. We can harvest these experiences when we seen when we included bill. Come on either. Join the group that sort of thing. Remember what that feels like. Hey come on. Come join us when we're accepted someone. You're wrong explaining your point of view and someone gives you a message that they really appreciate and accept what you've had to say. This stuff is subtle but don't be fool. Subtle is significant requires. That's what i said. You wanna have your crews today. You want to work. This stuff is subtle. Bodied is very significant. And if you do it again and again and again seen included accepted liked getting nonverbal messages from group around the these people like me and of course loved feeling loved so do we. Have you know you can use these approaches. The surprise for instilling this experience of being held. And that harks. Back to what i said. If you notice that you have predispositions to have mood swings little civil wars with yourself. Every once in a while with the critic or pervasive sense of help put helplessness and hopelessness techniques. Very very powerful into himself learning how to institute And program a positive middle tinplate. Many people who come and see me professionally. Come i walk through the door. And they told me the problems. This has been happening for thirty five forty years. I tell me their problems and their eloquent in the why they can describe how awful the office eloquent. But when i ask them well what would i positive alternative to that look like that and we can get in a mindset. You know it's not like people are stupid like distributor. They can't think of that. There's a groove in the mind for negativity and we we are like a phil crowe negativities recanting saying we velcro nicotine. We much more sensitive picking up the negative and is much more real estate in the brian for pickup. And we're typical onto the positive. Just slip office. So that's what we have to do. These sorts of things to change the balance. The buddhist said the same thing again. Two thousand six hundred years ago repetition repetition repetition. Okay you wanna have positive sites. It's not enough to just hope that they'll come along. I and i think that the same things that you say. When you do the brahma behar's myabe safe might be will be at peace and then we begin to site. I was to other people. And it sounds funny because the guy is a real jerk because a real jerk everybody notices a jerk and you know these techniques. The buddha introduced of the brahma has in particular there to help us. Mike highway skillfully through the world because the world is full of all sorts of nas. People are not so north people and when we say those things amazon comes up with the thing now. That guy's a jerk and then we're invited to actually may be deepen episode of that person's in evidence or something like that and begin to maybe stepped. See the person's difficulties in the bigger picture. So when you say these things to yourself and when you begin to practice holding these patents of ease it really does create templates. Where the next time you see the person they're going to be a little. They may still be a jerk. But they'll bud you less. they'll douglas. Why do they argue. Ns they buggy list. Because you've got something inside you've got something inside. You've got a sense of positivity inside and an understanding that this person is the way they are because of circumstances and a deep appreciation of the law of karma they for an urgent promises this analogy all the time Person the person that went to the went down to the marketing news and he was abused by someone and person very very affronted and walked. Wind was very distressed. But then when you when you realize on his told that that person was crazy and had all sorts of middle middle difficulties. The person got down the next. I gets abused in the same way the person and it's okay because you nar. There's a bigger picture associated with that. That bigger picture has to be held in our body as well as at monse okay. It has to be held in l. body in holding that sense of wellbeing. in body. In holding that sense of positivity in holding the sense of safety the safety that comes for example even from holding an knowing that we can depend on a cell to keep our precepts that gives a sense of safety it gives a sense of freedom from remorse which causes us to be much less able to be triggered by other people and bought jerks bullies. And all that sort of stuff in the world okay. So that's a little exercise on technique. It'll work in any positive emotion that you want to instill in your nervous is a graduate more that you can do. That's an upper but not so. Let's start imitation practice with the other. Half our decision today in this mutation is entitled five ways of steady the mind okay so just make yourself in a comfortable position and you can have your eyes open or closed or halfway in this in this place. In this tradition everybody clauses. There is a very rising mind. You can have your eyes open or half open. You can can play around with with a whole range of things that you can do with your eyes which can really help still so the first of these five ways is to relax strangers amazing coming into now coming home coming high coming home to now. I have arrived. Stigma hon would site. I'll have arrived in my own body and this is a great opportunity to extend a sense of friendship from the bottom up to this first level of sitting them on by relaxing the body and we can relax the body particularly by evoking the vehicle response or the bagel response to the ventral response to the vegas the so if we actually smile and if we relax throat if we stretch up and settling southern not slumping ford it mitigates against sleepiness. We can begin to take breath all the way down into a belly. It's been a few moments now to have that small and the vice but to also have an ina small that looks down smiling at the body on your side smiling at the body smiling around the is vegas live has been around. The is the joe relaxing. The joel suck. It's coming down to the throat down into the hot center. Even further into the belly begin to marry the exultation the sense of ease letting go because there's nothing to do and no place to guard right now is all there is and we can give yourself either to just being he Bodies friendly way now bringing that sense of gentleness and softness especially on the exploration bringing sense of softness and gentleness to the end of the inhalation as well because we can oftentimes have powerful emotions at the end of the inhalation at the end of the solution. We need to very gently. Puch s- with this part of the breathing dipping the toe in the water supply. Oftentimes we're emotions are frozen at the end of the nation and the end of the acceleration spreading your attention out throughout your whole body while being aware of the election selection which is spontaneous sometimes is the buddhist said. You breathe in short. Sometimes she breathing long. Sometimes you breathe out short. Sometimes you breathe that law. None is better than the that the body begin to. God you begin to trust the feeling of your own embodiment now being here in your body. So that if thinking comes up you can economize thinking. Come back to the body now. Maintaining that physical relaxation in the body. That friendliness in the body bring to mind a sense of friendliness in your interpersonal relationships. People that you care about people that care about you. Bring up a sense of friendliness. I do have friends. You do love me. I am accepted. Whatever it is a mind thing he is to feel the feeling of connection rather engulfing to a story about the people of the situation where i live using these situations to trigger the feeling of connection wishing well wishing well to others and others wishing well to us. Friendliness going out and going in the feeling of friendliness the second way to study the mind with the breath to live. It's sinking t binds. See if you can anchor. The feeling of friendliness in your body keeping that sense of franklin in the body we moved to the third the third. Why which just notice that. You're safe right now. Not have been saved in the past maybe not to be safe in the future but right now you seif. Nothing bad is happening paying attention to the experiences. All rightness right now is a major major resource in the midst of anxiety which is usually about the future to notice it. Nothing bad is happening right now. Yep since of chaos freedom from being attacked giving yourself permission to just dull. Dan nacho to with driven this or you got adminis- that may be part of your copy mechanisms in life. Don't need those right now. Can dollar dan a little bit. We can allow a little bit of vulnerability in because now safe. We can allow ourselves to be with yourself to feel whatever we need to feel because we are safe done have to control as much. We didn't have to control in mind in our emotions as much because we are safe right now and work safety with the breath blended to feel that safety and holding that safety with the brain leanest in the body. We move further on to embrace this since of enough nece right now contentment. This is good enough the fourth way. Maybe could have more but this is good enough feeling of contentment. This is enough. Feel as you breathing with the idea that this is enough and with each the feeling yourself becoming more. And more enriched with enough newness letting go getting sense of confidence to let gar emotionally as well because this is enough the sense of building contentment with the breath with their body in the present moment ways away the public consciousness. The antidote to the public consciousness sits the stage for generosity. And the last few th way to steady. The mind is what the buddha talked about when he said making a resolution. In other tana my mind gravitate towards stillness. One point in this and that's the top down approach but to remember what stillness field slack in your bones is the bottom up approach. I give myself over to the feeling of stillness. The remembered feeling of stillness. My mind will in stillness my surrender to the memory of stillness. The fifth way to steady the mind can do this by focusing the attention on whatever the object is. let's say the breath on the in breath paying attention all the way through to the solution the gap between the acceleration in the inhalation. And then the in how bringing that sense of compassion when amman drifts off and surrendering ourselves to that sense of pace the is the top priority causes everything else man my mind dwell instill listen pace. Remember what that feels like from the last time. Rian up in re-experience it again. The buddha described a mine which is has these qualities unshaken unstained sarlis insecure unshaken sore. Let's and secure fill the meaning of these woods and your bones unshaken unstained sorrows and secure. This is that the buddha adviser take mind that we can. I'm towards by making much of these feelings when they arise within us. Okay folks that's do you normally have questions for these things. Would we pack up and go. Hi what's what's the normal. Okay all right good so we're going to meet up there and have a cup of tea. Okay we can do that.

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NCAA Women's Quarterfinal Recap and Semifinal Preview

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NCAA Women's Quarterfinal Recap and Semifinal Preview

"Use welcome to the mini. Break your daily podcast for the biggest storylines results and controversies from the temps world. Today is friday may twenty first folks. There's an energy in the atmosphere. Down here in orlando not only. Do we have players and coaches beginning to filter in fourth the individual events beginning next week. But they're only two days left of this twenty twenty one college tennis team seasoned. The tennis has just gotten better and better with every passing day. Of course here on friday. We've got the men's and women's semifinals set. To begin on saturday it will be championships to decide who are winners. Are here during this season. And i could not be more excited to cover all the action. Of course i have been so grateful to all of you. Players coaches fans to have approached me. Chris matt who are all on site now in orlando and expressed a your gratitude. You're i suppose fandom for the podcast. And i say this every show but sincerely if you are listener you're down here in orlando and you haven't already come say hello. It means the world to us to know that the shows that we are doing the content. We're creating here for the college. Tennis universe is being so well received in sincerely again. It means not just the world to me but to super producer. Daniel westoff dalton. Theam in all of us here at crack rackets does thank you so much for your continued support and thank you for creating sincerely i think my favorite atmosphere foreign in person event. I have ever attended and look. There was a big announcement a couple of days ago. The ncaa deciding to go to one hundred percent capacity at these ncaa championships. Oh my gosh. Has the atmosphere been electric. All of these matches whether it's you know the eleven am matches or even as late as eight nine ten even at this point midnight. One a m There's a vibe and it is what makes college tennis so special to what makes the product so different from anything else in the tennis world and it's why we become addicted to it here at cracked racket. So of course what i want to do for all you listeners. Today set the scene for a semi-final. Friday what i'm going to be doing on this podcast. It's just gonna be me hans solo. that's i suppose. The downside of these matches ending at twelve thirty one. Am every night on recap the quarterfinals here. For the women preview the semi-final matches. We have here friday as well. It's just gonna be women on this podcast but rest assured i'm gonna get mad. The cracks toco eac to join me on a great show. Podcast today as well to recap the men's quarterfinals preview the men's semi-final action as well unfortunately turns out. Chris how yours has a real job and asked that she's going to be working that real job during the day. Of course this weekend. I will drag his. I promise you onto the podcast. Because the fact that we haven't spoken with him in a week in the fact that we've all been down here and we haven't been able to do in in-person podcasts yet. It's a tragedy and of course it's a tragedy i hope to rectify because that's the sort of content all of you listeners. Deserve and a half to say to have the college tennis. Holy trinity almond person even beyond the extraordinary ten. It's just it's been delighted so great to get the hang out not just with mattie but the entire sta kodak family and again all of you out there who. I consider my craft rackets family. Who have made doing this podcast in being so invested in the college tennis world just immensely worthwhile so again. The goal for today's podcast. I'm to recap all of the women's quarterfinals from. I think they were played on wednesday. Who knows what. Dave weakened is anymore. That i'm going to preview the semi-final matches as well. Of course the reason we're able to do that day in day out here on. This show is because of the support we get from all the listeners from our crack crickets patriot family and of course from our friends at midwest sports midwest sports dot com and use that promo code cr fifteen to get fifteen percent off your order. Free two day shipping on all orders exceeding seventy five dollars and best of all. Free can of wilson extra duty tennis balls. Of course you're also gonna find the best staff in the business. They're not only like so familiar with every product. They've got in their store. But they're going to help you in any way that they can show again. Go to mid west sports dot com. Use that promo code. Cr fifteen to let them know. We sent you there all right. Here's the order for today's podcast. I'm gonna go chronologically. we'll start with. Nc state georgia texas florida state. We're not gonna preview that. Nc state texas match. Then we'll get to the nightcaps in. I don't think i've recovered from the nightcap yet. I would argue the single best match of the tournament. As good as the usc texas men's match was last night pepperdine. Ucla is everything ncaa. Tennis is supposed to be. We'll talk about that. Match will get into. Unc duke and them will preview. I can't believe it's a semi-final but will preview that pepperdine. Unc match that scheduled for later tonight here on friday again We're gonna start chronologically so let's get right into it. Nc state georgia oh. My goodness can these. Nc state wolfpack play. If you heard me recap the round of sixteen preview the quarterfinal round. You heard waffle. I really really wanted to pick. nc state. because there's just again. i. I hate to keep using this word. But what differentiates all of these teams at this point. It's not the talent everyone's got talent to make the final four. You have to be the best of the best in college. At this point it comes down to the intangible qualities comes down to the energy. Do and your teammates have one another's back when you get pressed against the wall. Can you maintain your level of play. Your aggression your patterns when there is additional pressure placed on you in the answer for this. Nc state wolfpack team is unequivocal. Yes and i have to say having finally gotten the chance to be down here hang out with. Nc state head coach. Simon earn shot. A if. you wanna talk college tennis if you wanna get into the weeds. I don't know if there's a better person in the nation to talk to. Then simon be that 'it factor that it quality these nc state wolfpack habit. Of course it helps when you've got super seniors and seniors like I anna rogers. Alana smith adriana. Rianne me on the roster leading the way but just the performance from these nc state wolfpack in the quarterfinal. It was simply spectacular. They stuck to their place. They didn't waver in in the doubles. They came out absolutely swinging. And you know. I talked about this last time i think. Rogers smith is the best doubles team. I've seen in the nation just their power. Their length their aggression. They can take it to anyone. They play on their terms. That double set is on their racket but of course they ran into a top ten team in the country in katerina. Ariana arsenal tinned. That match win unfinished. Which i think is surprising to all of us college tennis fans it was on six five rallying and smith were down but serving At the time of the clinch in the reason they didn't get to finish that match is because their teammates were so good at the bottom of the lineup. And look you know. We've talked about the women's conference. How much better. It was than everyone else in college tennis this year. And legitimately it was. I mean look at the round of sixteen field. There were six different teams. Look at the quarterfinals you had. Unc had duke at nc state. You had a team that. I'm blanking on florida state there. It is and knew there was another one and you can just tell how battle-tested these acc teams are. They don't blink. They don't flinch. They're not rattled by any moment. I know all three of those things mean same thing again. It's been six days. I think i've slept total of six hours. that's not true but hyperbole always makes for better podcasting anyways we look at the rankings. You know the number two doubles team. Nc state is actually their highest ranked team jaded daniel adriana. I'm who are number five in the country. Abigail rinse shelly. Amelia reject Their number forty two in the country. And you look at the numbers again. Nc state has had so much success in doubles. You look throughout the season. They've only dropped the doubles point on four different occasions. And you look at this team. Would've played now twenty five matches so they're twenty one in foreign doubles and i mean by the numbers. Roger smith seventeen and five. Daniel re emmy sixteen in four. And it's funny because reject. Shelly almost never get to finish matches. But you know they're twelve and one as well they're just. This is a really really good team and they play such aggressive tennis. Whether it's not necessarily directly serve and volley but served plus one ball get to up at the net. Take the impetus. Be the aggressors. Put your opponents on your back foot. Make them beat you into really hard to do that. Because of the power the length the explosiveness of these doubles teams again daniel and re emmy. That's a number one doubles team for ninety percent of teams in the country. And just the way they were. They were the aggressors christophe and coppedge. They had more power. They were at the net and they were saying okay. You think you can make the passing shot. You think you can make the lob over my head. Good luck to you and if you do. I'll clap my racket. But we're gonna put you on your back foot and that's exactly what daniel and really were able to do. They take six four set to earn. That i double set and then it says on the order that number one doubles finished. I that's incorrect. It was run shelley reject who earned that seven five win over kowalski and ma at number three doubles and again. They were just the more aggressive team. They stuck to their plays their patterns. It was the again. They weren't rattled by the moment and considering it was. Nc state first nca quarterfinal would have been justified if they were but then once they took that doubles point in. If you heard the preview podcasts you know why. Waffled as i was like oh well. Nc state takes the doubles points. Just so hard to find three wins against any of these teams. And again we've played twenty four matches here in orlando the team. That wins the doubles point. Twenty two two in those matches and she state was there part of that trend. They take the doubles point. And then the aggression we saw. Because you know we know what we're going to get from anna rogers at one. We know what. We're going to get from alana smith at two but the story for these. Nc state wolf pack is the bottom of the lineup and in particular that heart of the singles core three four five remmy daniel wrench shelley. You look coming into this match Adriana remmy fifteen and five at the number three singles position eighteen in six indoor matches this year jada daniel fifteen in eighteen dual matches fourteen in six at number four and a half to say gave them a shout out in person. The jaded daniel fan section is the unequivocal best fan section. Of all the you know there are a lot of great families. A lot of love on these. I think that's the best part about being here in college tennis. And i think a lot of you guys know. I come from a family of love. My you're not gonna meet two more affectionate people than lauren and michael gross skin. And you can't be me right. You can't be ridiculous. You can't embrace your creativity unless you have parents who allow you to embrace that creativity when you're younger. That's why i am who i am and again. We're very hugging touchy family. It's always a kiss on the head kiss on the cheek. That's what we do clearly. That's the daniel family as well. So that's my vibe. And they get loud. they get aunt i just. I love absolutely love him. But i'll tell you what j. daniel lefty explosive game in the kept attacking attacking attacking keeping her opponent again on the back foot. Coming to the nadan. You know forcing in this instance. Obviously morgan coppedge to hit a bunch of passing shots and just copy wasn't able to get into her plays because daniel Disrupting her rhythm. It's a credit to jade daniel. Look you know. She is another one of those seniors in the lineup. I mean they're seniors everywhere in this lineup for nc state and you can just see. They're playing with nothing to lose. They're playing as if it's their last week on the job. Let's leave it all out on the court. She was just so aggressive Was jaded daniel. Such an impressive performance at number four singles. Of course you know. You look before that. I went a little out of order. First of all cat yokich is a stud and you know for georgia. After they dropped that doubles point there was absolutely some fire in that belly. Coming out to start the singles and it's a credit to cat. Yoga chew wood so tunnel visioned in in in a good sense in that she was saying. I'm getting this point on the board as fast as humanly possible for my georgia bulldogs. So that i can get back on court in cheer my team down and that was what was so impressive about cat. Yokich is performance and the hard part is about. This is that people have to lose these matches. I'm so excited for the winners. But i watch these teams afterwards. I start to choke up a little bit embarrassed because just so much. Fight to nasty. Grit left out on those courts k. Kitchen embodies everything college tennis is supposed to be about and if she wins the individual singles event. It should surprise no one because she's clearly starting to play her best tennis. We said it before. We'll say it again. There's pro tennis coming in her future. She just moved rogers around the court so well she was the one dictating and she earned the quickest victory in this singles match. Six two six two and now it was one all but again you have to credit this. Nc state team they won three first sets. They defended all of those first sets. And we go now you know to To adriana remmy at that number three singles position when you can have you know the fifth year senior playing number three singles who want a lot of teams would be a top two player again. It's a it's a power brand of tennis and we talked to coach simon earn. I really should have super producer. Daniel westoff input on the press clips. I'll it's just a little bit difficult. And i know he's on the move today but talking to simon after match he. He emphasized that fact he talked about look we. That's our plan. That's our play. We talk about playing to win. We talk about playing on our terms and someone beats us. You clap iraq it you say good job. You were too good today. But his bed is that. It's really really hard to beat them when they're playing aggressive tennis. And he's absolutely right and just you know again. Remmy took it to wolski six one six four and i have to apologize to makovsky. I tweeted something out. After the match there was an exchange between henry emmy implied that quality was upset with a couple of calls really makes that could not have been further from the truth and i am so embarrassed to have insinuated that because i really do. Try my best to you. Know not run with unverified information. I try my best to be again. A real journalist with verified sources. You know offer you all correct information. So you're in the loop. And i was wrong quality. Who is perhaps the classiest person in college tennis was not in fact costing reality for making bad calls. She was simply saying the chair. Umpire was incorrect. Shouldn't have been overruled. Is sincerely apologize. And thus i sincerely apologized to make kouassi to imply nefarious motives again. That was the least of my intentions in. Just check yourself. Alex that's on me on force air against sincerely apologized could not have been classier. Meg wolski but again adrienne me. Just power power power and then came down to number five singles where abigail wrench. Shelly martikan solace. It was a back and forth affair. You know again it. It felt like marta. I think she went up an early lead in that tiebreaker. Five three and you felt to yourself. Oh man like if she can get the split you look elsewhere you know Christophe had earned a seven five six two win over lexi birla at six. Oh my god did christophe. Grind at six worked birla around the court. She was excellent. An-and liama dismiss montes. The first set seven five alana smith. Six four in the second match was just a battle. But you know if you're georgia you you already watch the modern clinch for you in the round of sixteen so had come down to that you probably you feel pretty comfortable but look. Shelly kept swinging and she was down six five set point in the tiebreaker At an in the second set and she hits back and cross-court winner the word gumption. I know a tweet that a lot but oh my god the gumption honorine shelley to for that shot in that moment it a pit him is is. Nc state playing to win six all she then takes the next two points eight six and four victory for nc state and now you know it was the first quarter final in program history. The first semi-final in program history. And you know who deserves to reach a semi-final before they all graduate this nc state senior class. Rogers smith re me daniel all of them. Actually i mean all of these players i. I'm not going name drop the entire roster. But i've said at this whole recap. They played a win. They are so so so so talented and they belong in the nc semi nci semifinals. Now again what. A fight from this georgia team ninety percent of seasons. This georgia team has enough talented. Get over the finish line to ncaa. Final perhaps even win the title and honestly this year a couple of things break their way. They can probably do as well but look. This was my hesitancy with georgia is. Sometimes they play matches their on their opponents rackets and a lot of times they described you down and they're just stay alive until you wear down in. That's how they earn their victories. Nc state did not back down. They did not wear down in this match up. You know again. They earn a four two victory and advanced to the first semi-final in program history. Were now they're gonna face juggernaut. In these texas. Longhorns in you know i'm not gonna lie. I was a little unimpressed by texas in the round of sixteen win over ohio state now. Of course i was at the national endorse. Is this group how talented they were how. They blitzed through everyone to get to that final. How they were sorry for keep saying this but how they were five good minutes away from straight up beating north carolina four one in that final protects us flex their muscles in this quarter-final final to advance for over a very good florida state team and started in doubles where you know Fsu or excuse me. We got a quick win. From lebron a- terada at number two in o-man is it's an atrocity plane on a mission the senior. Just your. I don't think she's missed the ball here in orlando and just again. She is such a tough out physically mentally just confused so many different things such a good counterpuncher and then you know to pair her with her polar opposite game style. Wise the power of fernando. Lebron that is an excellent doubles team. In for them to take six hundred the number eight team in the country of dini diaz dawson andre garcia. It's a testament to this texas team. And then again. I like smith and rodgers more right now team. That might be the best team in college. Tennis over the next three years is kylie collins and lulu son. They played a win. To lefty righty combo. They're aggressive pop off. All these the net i watched lulu son hit a forehand poach valley and there was just a sound that came off the racket. And i'm sorry but if you know again it's a superficial thing. I wish i could recreate up. That was terrible. But there's a really nice pop and it's just sounds like oh that's different than everyone else like. Oh you can hit a volley like that. I teach me your ways like it was just so impressive and again. Shout julia perroni Petra who lay they earn six six three win over stern's chevette upon and keep that thought in mind for a second but collins and son they were the aggressive team. They got to up. They were at the net. And it's not that emmanuel's lost in victoria. Allen played poorly was that count and son played great. They earned a six three victory to give texas the doubles point. When you drop the doubles point against texas you're just in trouble and you know again if you listen to a round of sixteen recap podcast if you within the quarterfinal preview express. I don't wanna see doubt but express concern in the level of painting stearns and we all know she. It's a pro ball. She can hit the ball as hard as anyone in the women's game but she struggled in that first match rena contests. The amir's took it two or six two six. One was moving the ball around the court so well stearns just couldn't find her rhythm she found it folks and that's a scary thought for the texas longhorns owen one victory at number one singles now prone struggled throughout the match absolutely but that result had to do with pain stearns taken it to or being the aggressor in of course there were some deuce points that went stearns way. That match was closer than the own. One scoreline reflected but i mean pain stearns took a tour and then of course you have senior anna terada a number two singles who you like as much as two singles in the country and i watched her at the national indoors. Beat everyone that she faced You know and just you look this season. The numbers for anna terada it. It's a joke. How good. I mean first of all. It's a joke. How could all of these texas players have been but you look anna terada this year in singles. She's nineteen in three eleven into at that number two singles position in just a a sure thing. She was funny because her opponent. Emmanuel's loss i think she got a break back. It was either. I three all were four all in that second set. But then you know Terada just shipbroker. I probably just makes a million balls and you think okay. This is the one. I should approach. This is the one. I should approach on an anti hits. A passing shot by you or she gets that lob over your head or she hit some ridiculous spinning forehand winner. And you're just like oh damn that's why you are in a frequent karate and just you six one six four victory for her. Now i do want to say we've talked about it all season long. The strength of this florida state team is the bottom of their lineup. Dos who lay alan garcia. They all came out. Swinging and scrapping. You know i thought and dini diaz who was Faced i don't think she faced a match point. You might have faced a match point but you know. I thought she was gonna win that second. Set breaker against loose on. I thought we were going. The distance their net four five and six. We did go the distance and you know the big the big flex for taxes when you take doubles point in offers a six percents. You're probably winning the match and it was interesting to see them. Play lebron and not a rip lou rob blue at the number six singles position And ended up being the right choice because for lebron able to just stick to her place hit through andrea six. Two two six six three but again the problem for she was the push just came a little too late. they it was texas was all over them. The first hour and a half of this match in it was just too big of a deficit. but man did dos. hulu alan garcia. They came out swinging. You know again. Julio alan garcia all take second sets six three for a seven six for allan six to garcia now it's worth noting charlotte about the pond was up five two in the third. At the time of clinch you know that third set on five which just getting underway but fernando lebron a- stuck to her place and she gets that six three in the third victory and of course. What's so dangerous about this texas team. They're twenty five into at the six singles position. Lebron seven in one rob blue Is fourteen in one. So they've got options right and they flex those options. The top five is good of a top five. And i mean this team is just awesome and they look the pardon again. I told this using in the last podcast. I i'm all in coach hale and everything that's happening at florida state. I'm a believer And man you could just see on her face just this. This florist eighteen came so close. Heather push started ten fifteen minutes sooner. Maybe just maybe this match ends up for two or four three in there some pressure on the line for these taxes freshman but wells avoid that pressure because they beat you down so badly in the first hour and a half of play again taxes flexes their muscles such great fly fight from this florida state team in particular is locked in on that dini daas luzon match. Because i'm i'm all in on loose on. I just think she's so talented in electing i. Just i'm i'm very interested in her game But dini kept fighting and it was so fun to watch in just the energy of the toughest team again. It's it's really stupid. I know the baylor chan is stay together. Stay together for the men. But the florida state team stayed together Just in the end too much talent. For the texas longhorns in now to our first semi-final preview are morning match is an absolute doozy. Nc state verse texas seniors verse freshman the the counter narratives again just for the acc big twelve. And i think it you know showed to the big twelve. They have been killing it. I think you know. They got to men's semi-finalists and they've got the women's semi-finalists as well big twelve tenets. Is the real deal folks. Not that any bus were downing that at any point but i mean you look at this matchup again. It's tough to look at the numbers for taxes. Because of the sort of schedule they played because they beat. Everyone's badly here. During this season everything's lopsided one looks good writing. We've talked about this all week long. They're bores flight. Sixteen and five at the number one singles position when you're winning over seventy five percent of your worst flight win. Four of your flights at the through six singles positions have won over ninety percent of it is not a typo folks. Ninety percent of their matches their worst bottom four flight is being nineteen into at five singles. That's a joke. They're nineteen three at two. That's an eighty six percent win percentage for those of you wondering Yet silly the numbers are silly and look in doubles. Twenty one and twenty four at one seventeen into at two twenty six three. I don't think they've stopped dropped. The doubles point all season longer. If they have maybe it was one. Doubles pointer perhaps ucla. Or you know. i know. They beat north carolina in the doubles point when they played at the national indoors. And the funny thing is despite that i'm kind of leaning towards nc state. Like i do accounts on verse smith. Rogers that is everything you want in a college. Tennis doubles match that matches Aggressive the firepower the energy. I've i've tweeted this out of bunch. But inject that match directly into my veins please because that is it's delightful that's nca quarterfinal semifinals. Maybe even final quality match terms of the individuals But you know that that's a toss up. I mean number two doubles as well. I just determination of daniel. And i believe angels playing with ram if memory serves me correctly here and you know them against herati and lebron a- have you got a bunch of seniors on the court. They're the broncos. Get a match that firepower. That dan rea emmy can provide terada. Got that dose of creativity as well that perhaps the nc state team doesn't quite have began. I just love the way. Nc state keeps you on your back foot number three doubles. Obviously you know stern Upon have the talent to beat anyone you might even despite their loss. I do you lean towards them though considering rejecting and ren shell you're twelve and one that just clean up clinched over georgia. I do think. I leaned towards. Nc state in the doubles point again. This is an eye testing because the numbers would indicate that these teams are about as evenly matched as you can expect in again. It's an ncaa semifinals not. They're evenly matched. That was not great podcasting for me to say that. I think you guys are all well aware of that fact but look this. Nc state team can play the. Keep you on your back foot. They're super super talented in doubles. I think they take the doubles point. Now the problem is that texas just can compete absolutely everywhere When it comes to singles and of course not saying at this. Nc state state team can't but again they've won over ninety percent of their matches at the three through six singles position. You look for nc state They've been really good as well but they are a bit vulnerable. It feels like at both number one and number. Six as great as anna. Rogers has been you know in terms of leading her team in providing that emotional dose in an mentioned this when i was recapping alana smith after she dropped. I said Anna rogers was on that court the rest of the way. She was staying in there with her team. And saying look i think. She calls her long as she goes. Look you've got this. You know energy energy energy and just took the second set it clearly working. I'm not trying to dismiss what you know Anna rogers has been doing for her team. But i test wise. I just think that's a bad match for her. In patan stearns you would lean towards texas at the number one position again. Tough with the numbers because uthr's power six. Texas is a two and a half point favorite over. nc state their favourite at every position. It's the smallest. Gap is actually at number one. Where stearns is only a point one favourite anna rogers. And whether it's lebron orapa lou. They're still going to be favorites else by at least I believe it's point to. Ut are points which feels significant. But then again again you have adriana super-senior against freshman lulu son you have jay daniel senior against charlotte vodka upon wrench. Shelley's again all these upperclassmen matching up against freshman if nc state takes that doubles point. We saw that confidence did for them against georgia and then they just come out swinging. And i really do think this. Nc state team can be taxes. I think you know again. Daniels got the sort of power. And she's a lefty as well. That can keep chevette the on her back foot. Which is what you have to do. If you wanna beat charlotte did with abigail wrench shelly. She can keep kylie collins on her back foot. And if you can take a set from collins. And i'm not trying to say get under her skin that's that's the wrong connotation but just get her frustrated get hurt thinking a little bit much in her head. She is still a freshman and like i think. Nc states very capable of doing that. I think alana smith is the perfect person to match up with anatoly because a of smith doesn't care what you're doing. Smith it watching your. It's so irrelevant. She's going to play her game style. She's going to go for her shots. Pull the trigger when she wants to do that. Which is what you need to do against toronto. Can't have wavering confidence. you can't have any hesitancy. And so therefore. I just like i'm sorry. I i think smith can win that match very very much now again. Re emmy ditto same deal like the power can take to lefty lulu son and put on her back foot and again. I do think lulu sun can do exactly the same back district right back to ramey. First-serve percentage can be so important in this match for all of these teams because now we get nerves. You know it's not the first semi final in program history for texas like it is for nc state but it's the first semi-final for this group. Of texas longhorns. Much like it is for the nc state wolfpack so you experience wise again to play an acc conference schedule to deal with all the adversity nc state has dealt with that. It's going to be significantly help heading into this match it. They're not going to be intimidated by this texas rosser. They've matched up the gauntlet. They've seen north carolina bunch of times. They know what the best of the best look like in this. Texas team is the best of the best. And that's probably why. I lean with them and i just made this bowl case for. Nc state. alex. That was a loop that was not was expected. Didn't you just do this with georgia where you thought in your head in your bones at this. Nc state team had the talent and just has that. Feel that vibe that they're just on a run right now and they can make this ncaa championship this team. Had that vibe. And i do think they're that good and i do think they take the doubles point. I mean rob bluer. Lebron colin shiva pawn son. That bottom half of the lineup for texas is so intimidating and again i think one in six probably go to taxes to through five. It's all toscano. But i feel bad for against amerada. I'm such an rogers fan as well. I just think that power tennis. For stern's i think it's a really. It's a poor matchup against four rogers. i like. I can't convince myself to pick against adrian. I can't convince myself to pick against geeta daniel and yet i just went on this. I told you how good loose on charlotte upon are you. Look at the numbers for them. What is luzon's record. This year in individual matches loose son twenty two fourteen and one at the number three singles positions chevette. The pond twenty three in one nineteen in one overall at the four singles position as well. I mean this this texas lineup is show so good and again you know. Coach joffe is talk about the time. We haven't seen that much adversity. And i want to see my girls tested. They're gonna absolutely get tested much as they. Have you know round of sixteen and quarterfinals as well but yeah for three taxes i think. Nc state gets the doubles point. I think they gonna find to singles line-up two singles wins in the middle of that lineup. Just the strength of this text team all year long has been their depth has been there will ability to just find ways to beat down and the the talent shines through. I don't know man. I it really hard to make these picks at this point And i know. I'm always going to hear from it if i do. Make the picks because that's part of the fun of this job at this point i'm going to take taxes for three but i do think that's a four three match and again i think. Nc state takes doubles. I just think in the end. The talent the depth four taxes wins out but look the funny thing is that's match number one perspective. That is not our best semi-final the best semi-final and perhaps the best match the only match. Because i can't emphasize enough how good pepperdine. Ucla was in the fact that we pepperdine unc. Now as another semi-final that's talk back backstretch for pepper win this tournament. They may potentially have to go through. Ucla unc then either nc state of texas like talk about a comment talk about earning your national championship and look. Let's get into it now. This pepperdine ucla match. You know it had it all it just inject veins me please now and i think coach pair nelson nielsen excusing. I think pete. In john. I think they pulled a fast one on us all season. I think they played a little hustle game. Because let's be honest. they were not good at doubles. And we'll talk to pair a month or a month and a half ago on the cracked interviews podcast. He almost went out of his way to say. Yeah let's just start down one. Oh and like get into the singles because we can find four singles victories against anyone. But for this pepperdine team in you know fukuda. And patrick waves kind kinda took it to gulick and wolf at two. They were the aggressors they were on their front foot. Six four victory. Meanwhile flipside whenever you have a leash bolton her power tennis playing three doubles you feel good about herself and look abiotic who i will. I am biased towards because oh and by the way this pepperdine. Unc match was a power couple match. Who did we have in the stands. We had sam risk in ballots. We had you know. Kyle seelig who i found out his engaged to jessica fella and in case. You're listening to the sam. Gorski see ballots. Failure failure failure wasn't cece because she wasn't on the call. I think it was katrina. Failure failure failure all day fe. That's how you remember the pronunciation. Jessica failure Which i just bring up because again come on doing the broadcast. Let's do it right But look it's to have ns tasha imagine back in. Your lineup was great but I mentioned power couples by the way so sealed was there for falen then abiotic Dating i would say at this point. Let's be honest. Good friend of mine. In ben goldberg Financial good friends. We probably hung out like five times in person but we again. That's my guy Any anyways and by the way coaches if you're looking for a young aspiring coach the. You're not going to find a better candidate than ben goldberg. Who connects with every person they speak with. And just there's a kindness of it anyways. i'm not. I'm not making the pitch for any coaches. But if you're looking for a coach trust me young. A young prospect ben. Goldberg is going to be a successful college tennis coach anyways moving on past that abiotic the reason i get the i bring. Ben is because abby and ben had been dating for quite a bit of time and so a little bit biased towards abby but she played her best match like she was outstanding absolutely outstanding and end up getting the victory seven five at the number three position. And i will say five. Six forty thirty feel hits this high for him valley. Let's out on a half second too soon. It was a half second too soon and alicia bolden was gonna. I'm not gonna see. She was going to track down the ball but she wasn't an and make a shot but she wasn't not going to track it down. And so you know she appealed to the wrath and said that was a hindrance. And i i don't mean to be rude. But kinda was a hindrance like she pulled the trigger a half second too soon on the come on and then it got to adduce point and bolton take that do's point seven five set goes to ucla but clearly. The tennis god's disagreed and thought that it wasn't a hindrance because simultaneously to that happening jada heart abby forbes went up six two in the breaker on ashley lahey in leases are as good as ashley. He has been during her college career. You know what. She's never been known for her doubles prowess yet. That's exactly what comes through In this moment just her confidence. Her poise for calmness. And we'll say heart and forbes. It's so mean to say this. Because i'm such a fan of both them and i'm not trying to say they don't handle pressure like a enough. It's not that they don't handle pressure well but they did blink. A little bit in that breaker. They had a couple of high valleys a couple of points to put it away but then the amazing part was once that comeback happen. There are a couple of set point chances for pepperdine in. Oh my god did jada heart bring out the goods. Their hands at the net or quick reaction. She fought off. You know it probably had been an eight six nine seven decision for pepperdine. But it wasn't because she had a heart cab coming back with goods and hearn forbes. Make so many balls in the corden. You know sodas are lahey in this match. It was an hour long doubles point. I mean how often do you see. An hour-long doubles points in no ad scoring on set tiebreak format. That's how competitive spirited. This match got. It was so delightful Screw up schedule. I don't think i've recovered from asleep standpoint. But i'm spending five minutes on a doubles point and again to credit to pepperdine. Lahey in are who you look this season. I think they've played like i think that was the first match. They've actually completed at the number. One doubles position there one. Oh according to pepperdine stats sheet at number one doubles that do. Oh and that's their first match. They completed it to make that your first set you've completed. Its tested too late. He ends are who kept coming up with the goods put so much pressure on heart and forbes they earn a seven six victory ten eight in the breaker and just like we mentioned it. In the preview. pepperdine's probably the team in the tournament best suited to find four singles points when they dropped doubles but if they get doubles beat them and a half to give all the credit in the world to the ucla bruins because they nearly frigging did it. They nearly pulled it off. And you know alicia bolton who i have to say bolton parents family one of my favorite says well you know only match matchpoints and number three single. She wins that match. Ucla winds and it's as simple as that. But i mean you look across the board. He takes the first set. One failed takes at to patch kaleva at three They got the three first sets they needed. And you know sorted. Ucla in that match you could just tell after the first hour of singles. It was like. Who's gonna win still not sure second hour of singles who's gonna win still not sure got to give credit to. Ucla came out swinging at the bottom of the line. I was exactly wrong. I said zare You know at five. She's lost once. I know she wasn't great against michigan. But i like her point against anyone strapped two and three decision to abiotic. Who again played as good of a match. As i've seen her play not just this year but maybe in her career and just she is our couldn't hurt her an to move the ball around so welch played so confidently so freely it. Which is what you wanna see in these court. finals player. Playing their best tennis she did was two and three victory for her as you guys know. Ag stick together and golic At number six single seven six three win over nikki rhetoric. I have to say one of my favorite battles was actually the off court battle between nicky's brother and arinze the assistant coach for. Ucla and ryan is an energetic spirit. Guide love's the good patterns and good play and get his players. had in rex. Brother was just I don't wanna see mocking. But just i mean he was mocking. He was repeating everything. Ucla's coach was saying in like a link on the ucla coaches had which you don't love but that seemed argument that's college for you have to embrace that somewhere in the sport if we wanted to grow in like that energy was just contagious. Top to bottom it was a packed stands here in orlando and again it's a credit to ag. And i wanna see nikki. Relics had foot injuries. I believe the past two years in just there are times when you can tell it bothers her and i think it was early in that in that second set it was like to all where she kinda step down on her foot and she immediately stopped and looked down and kind of gave her coach. I think there is a there. Volunteer coaches on the cornish. Kinda give him an ono. It's happening again right now. But it's a credit to relic who fought at ag. Just put so many balls in the court was moving the ball so well to the outer thirds and just again put the sort of pressure you need to put on nikki readily can for ucla to get winds at five and six. You know now you start to think to yourself. Oh man like maybe. The recipe is breaking vivid. Wolfe played excellent. I set against jewelry for kuta to take it seven six as well and you know at that point. After the clinch abby forbes had taken a six two second set against ashley lahey and she seemed to be you know back in that match but then the pepperdine waves came in early show bolton after dropping her. I said she takes us six second-set as well and just felt like ucla had all the momentum that first hour hour and a half of they made their push and again. It's a credit to before two comes back for six six two six four. She could very well win the ncaa tournament folks and if she gets a wild card in the us open. I know she. I believe plans to spend four years at ucla. But she's a pro. Like shoe will be appro. I can be a good one to She gets a three-set win over lahey. Who talking to her so funny. Because ashley obviously helped clinch that doubles point that doubles point was the decider but she was so frustrated with her singles performance. And that's why she's a champion because you know even success. She doesn't get satisfied. She believes she can be even better. That's why she's ashley frequently. He began credit to abby forbes for earning that victory but now i've dished a lot of praise to the ucla bruins didn't even win this match. That's a testament to the level. Time to praise pepperdine team. Oh my goodness just. Failure at two singles is a joke. It's a joke. And i'm not saying she shouldn't be there. Because that's how good lake. He is as you go into every match thinking. we're going to get a dub from jess. And that's what she delivers over. Jada heart for her to take that first set tie-breaker nine seven. You know you could just. I felt so crushed for jeff. See here come the tears. I'm gonna choke up. Jada heart is the real deal love jada of but once she wants just took that i said you could just tell she had jada and she just moved the ball so well around the court so aggressive from the baseline. She can respond to everything. You're trying to do ensure her energy present. She's just after every point. It's a big camman again. She appeared is his everything. You want in college tennis. Seven six six four. She earns that win to put another point on the board for the bruins. And it's funny because that match actually finished after tasha paskaljevic six three one. Six seven five win over bolton and again bolton had matched points she was right there. Hurry think it was five. Three five four. Maybe that she took the lead in that second sensor third sentence served for it and you know there's only one break of serve in that first sadden you know patrick was able to hold onto it. And then bolton came out swinging for hand was moving so well around the cordon again. It's worth noting. Alicia bolton really screwed up prankul a few months ago and for her to even get back on the court and not have to undergo surgery and rehab as aggressively as it did testament to her commitment to not only the sport to her teammates. She wanted to be out there scrapping and fighting for them but again when she couldn't hold on those match points you could just tell patch clave kind of hatter and patrick is such a good job of absorbing and redirecting your pace in adding a little extra on it as well as she plays a little flatter ball and at least a bolton hits one of the heavier for hands. I've seen in college. You know her ashley. Lahey the amount of topspin able to put on that bullet why they're so successful at doing what they do. Pa-past clay scratched and clawed and got her way back into that match seven five in the third. And then i'm i don't mean to call her my girl but came down to my garage. She she fa- khuda who you're not gonna find a nicer person in college sons. I know i mentioned that about jada. Heart data for shiori. And just you know the fifth there is she a fifth year senior for sure and former number one singles player at ohio state to have her at number four singles. Feel like a freaking joke. And just you know. Vivian wolfe ground. Her down in that first set. But then you know it felt like it was. I think it was a two one or two. All in the second art in the third set were vivid. Had a couple of break point to take control of that sad but you know she. She kept swinging and once you got that three to lead. When she got that i break you could just see body language all pepperdine. The confidence jewelry was playing with the you know chest bumps over her heart turning her teammates. Zeno i think. She had her teammates back as much as her teammates had her back. She was so excited to be competing in that. Three all sudden-death scenario. She just embraced. The energy embraced the crowd. of course. that's very easy to do. When you're winning in a situation like that but i mean look again. I said from the beginning i think i think pete i think they pulled a fast one on us because if this pepperdine team's gonna take doubles points like they have in their past two matches. I don't know how you beat them. In you know again suri for khuda seven no at the number four singles position this year. It's the luxury of all luxuries. I you you like her over any opponent. She faces at that spot and she earns a three-set victory to deliver pepperdine their first ncaa semi-final and program has three in. This program deserves to be in the semi-finals they've been that good. You look at the pro circuit right now. obviously meyer. Sheriff is having success in you know lahey i. If she pursues pro tennis. I would love to see because i think she could be super successful at it and just so much. Talent has come through malibu over the years. It's credit to coaching nielsen again. And what they're building over there but This was the match of all matches for this to be your round of for this to be a quarterfinal match down even a semi like this. Ucla team had no business losing in the semifinals. And i know draw wise like who do you replace them. Within the semis. Maybe nc state. I would love to see that match. I think state. Ucla would have been four three. And it's just unfortunate because of how many good teams there were this year. I do think you know. I do think georgia state nc again. I've said all season. I think there was a top forty year i think. Unc taxes pepperdine ucla with all due. Respect to georgia nc state. Although will find out here today. I think throughout the season those four teams existed on kind of a different plane than everyone else because of the town. They had top to bottom because of just how many pathways they had to four points. Adapt to those for teams. Play in the quarter-final. It was tragic for college tennis fans who wanted to see that match and a semi final. But i don't know where else they were supposed to be at the job because georgia was a justifiable number. Three seed like you can't argue with the numbers for them. They lost once in the regular season. Until you're just crushed for this. Ucla team again. Jada hartwall always have a special place in my heart because my first few years of covering college tennis were so closely tied to her. Ucla women's teams but this pepper nineteen absolute studs now. Obviously they faced the test of all tests as they're gonna take on. Unc and again. It's amazing i'm talking about four matches or six matches here. I'm gonna go for an hour. Probably on this podcast. I know there's a lot to say about this. Unc duke match duke played about as good of first hour hour and a half of singles. As you could've asked and almost stole that doubles point as well. She and bill were exceptional at one. They took it to tell telling more six two there was no doubt about it. And then on the flip side credit mckenna jones elizabeth scotty clearly finding their rhythm at to you. Look at the numbers for this. Unc team jones scotty at that number two doubles position. Ten and one This season twelve and one overall in terms of The matches they've played. They take six four win over back in barranca. That's a really good win. Considering how good that back barranca team can be then. It came down to sanford transverse. Short shannon drumming and like shannon drama. That's your one and two singles players for duke. Sanford and tran under most circumstances. They don't even play singles for these. Unc tar heels of course rally training. I think it's like fifteen and no in the singles matches. She has played this season or something crazy like animal. Get back to her in a moment. But you know allie santa. You could just see alexander's the super-senior right and she there's no scenario. She hasn't seen during her college career and a half. Her three doubles is such a freaking luxury. Just you again. They get the break they get the hold. Seven five doubles point goes to the tar heels. Duke played it about as good of a point as they could have into not win. That point was clearly a momentum. But you didn't see it in the first sets of singles in shadow to do they get the four for sets. They need across the board. You know maybe she put up a six love set on mckenna jones. That was an eye popping thing. And it's funny. I was trying to record the podcast with band chiloe late on wednesday night. So that you guys. But i'll have the pods early thursday morning before you know very much before the matches begun and began excuse me. Hey great shot And then the second i saw. That's senate and i saw you know georgia chummy ticket. Six four on alexa and train. I think was down four zero in her first set against Or was up for but then she ends up losing her first sat against carolina barranca It was noticeable. Irks me got three first sets not four but then You look across the portray. Let me see one two three owner. They did get four. Thank you because khloe back. She was the six one over cam moron. It was yeah. It was back in jones who lost six hundred sixty one sets at three and four pretty quickly and that was when i texted ban chile is i came in. I don't think i'm gonna be able to record. I gotta go watch this match of and so you know. But what do the great teams do they scrap they claw they flex their muscles they wake up and there was almost a mutiny on our hands at the us campus because of course tennis channel on the broadcast unc matched in start till like ten pm because of how nine pm because of how late that pepperdine ucla match win. And i swear to. God one of the carolina parents who i will love forever. They scream star doubles. And i thought there's going to be a mutiny. And i was kind of rooting for i wanted to instigate poke the flames and the gas start. The davos just wanted to hear star doubles. Start the doubles on the far side of the courts. Obvi- sleep but they didn't do that. And i suppose that was a good thing for all of us fans because then we all got to watch on ten channel even though you know i was in person but everyone else got to watch it on tennis channel but again what do national championship winning teams do what do teams with forty. Seven straight wins. Do when they're back push against the wall. They respond and again. It felt like duke. Use all of their magic in that first hour hour and a half of singles then carolina came out swinging and i think georgia drumming number two singles player for a duke. She had match points on alexa graham if she finishes out that match you do wonder the trickle down effect because kelly chen took that second set six. Two on telling you know jones was in a third-set tran was in a set at foreign six. But carolina started. Flexing and fiona crawley is so so good. People think she's gonna play number one singles and of course you know. This team loses telegram in jones. But they think funen crawley might legitimately be the best singles player on the roster. Already neil for her to win that match one and over marguerite two billion put that quick to lead on the board for her heels. That made a difference and then clawbacks super sophomore. She clearly made jump this season. And you know sad. Part is for duke. We know the recipe so often doubles two three four. They almost had that right they. They almost take doubles. They don't but then they got the first sets. They need at two three and four in credit to carolina bronco. Who as i mentioned. I think she was four down in that first. Set tran kind of hurt. Her ankle on a point end. Barranca ends up taking seven of the next eight games or whatever it was to earn a seven five. I separate funding. I think there's a conversation between tran. The trainer the coach. He's like look. I know i that setup. i'm not going anywhere. don't worry about me. Six one six the next two sets. She was awesome to put that third point on the board and then look mckenna. Jones was number one in the country. She's as good as any player. You're gonna find. She found her rhythm she's just started. Grinding down maple cheese loopy forehands to by herself time than moving cheetah the outer third soon all these different things. She was awesome in this match. And you know that's why she's a supersede. That's why this team is so dangerous. Because even when data graham and by the way lack said found her rhythm and i don't know if i can call her i for right there if you hear this lexi you tell me if i can call. There's no way. Alex graham listens to minute and fifty. Four of the mini break podcasts. I can promise you all that right now But she was a stick together. She found her rhythm when she took that second set. And i think georgia was doing a little bit of scoreboard watching as well and you just felt like okay. Carolina's got this match and you tell. Chen credited kelly chen who did not have this season. She was looking for but here at the nca tournament brought her best stuff gave performances her blue devils needed. But again you know when you have a former number one player in the country legitimately playing number four singles. When you can pull elizabeth scotty and not mrs stop in the lineup. If you're carolina that's damn good news and so you know again. it's jones. Oh six six four six four with the clench. Unc earns a four one. Victory to advance to the semi-finals once again. You know now we get the matchup folks they're going to take on pepperdine it's a rematch from the national. Endorse can throw that one out the window though right because you know there was no There was no ashley. Lahey in the lineup. For pepperdine at the time and you know at the time patch. Kaleva czar still so early in their careers in. Hadn't quite found the rhythm like the had now in fukuoka and just lower up a little higher in the lineup. And all these different things. And i mean it's funny because early in the season pepperdine's ut our power six was higher than north carolina's it no longer is north carolina's sixty five point zero to pepperdine sixty three point nine seven. You look up and down the board Ucla ucla excuse me. North carolina favored at five of the six flights of the all point out. Four of the five favorites are under point to in terms of ut our favorites You know the only lopsided one on ut are crawl if you played six singles if we do see elizabeth scotty back in the lineup Like her at six over readily like not to be disrespectful to nikki. You just funeral crawley. So freaking good on so that you feel like for. Carolina is as good as point is anything. Eileen carolina in doubles as well but again it's like just historically has been better this season but this pepper teams got the momentum. I mean they're absolutely feel themselves on the doubles court. And look i mean tellingly. Really freaking good He excuse me lay hands are really good at one. They can absolutely beat and more on cameras clearly. Struggling with her form here in orlando. I know how hard she's been working to try and find that form here for the rest of the tournament. But what am i supposed to say like. Eileen patch kaleva. At three top two matches your bets as good as mine. Like fukuda healthy elizabeth scotty and maybe leaned for khuda. But because of the lack of health for elizabeth scottie. Scottie plays her best match. You saw what she did against chavez the pond at the national indoors like again. What are the ones. I like crawley at six. I like patch kaleva at three but if more plays well you never know what can happen like i would say i. I kinda like three. And four for pepperdine i like six for. Unc and everything else. A- contoss up like are you serious. You want me to make a prediction for this match. What my prediction is four. Three like and i know that's that's a cop out and that's not why i'm here. You know you guys. Don't listen to me. Cop out. But legitimately i watch as much college and as i think is any person in the world maybe in the history of the world. I just don't know i really don't know. Surely he hits a more dynamic baldwin sir david. Avocado dot has never lost a match ever. I had not step. She's never lost a match effort when she's needed when she's needed to win. You know failure versus graham. That batch is everything you wanted that matches going to get fiery testy aggressive inject that one you know where that can go. Servers jones like by their formula mckenna jones. So again i guess you see two points on the board for both teams and who can get doubles like. That's what this comes down to. Whoever wins doubles in my opinion wins this match. Because i don't think either of these teams are gonna find four singles victories at this stage of the tournament and eileen north carolina. Like i know like in our won that match at number one doubles. You can't fake what that sort of confidence will do for the team. We were down six tuna sat and we ended up in a tiebreaker and we ended up winning it. Like what else can he do. Anything right at the same time i just. The continuity of these carolina doubles teams. They've been so good at it for so long. You look again by the numbers. And it's against similar pairings. He's played around a little bit. But sanford and tran fourteen. Three jones scotty ten in one davos. Helen mora ten in one. I think they have more repetitions. A little bit more match tough in doubles and then again. i don't see four singles. Victories for any of these teams now is a typical bayton switch. Right i'm gonna pick pepperdine and they were gonna take dominant pick north carolina. Wendell's pepperdine is gonna take. I'm gonna look like a fool man. I hit so tough so so tough for three north carolina. They've won forty eight matches in a row. They do feel a little bit like a team of destiny again. What do the best teams do even when they don't play their best tennis. Let's be clear. They didn't play their best tennis against do but they still found a way when the moment was right to wake up to flex their guns. I just think this carolina team is special and it's not that pepperdine isn't special. I just think this. Unc team is historically special. Show at pepperdine honestly to honest so his taxes so as nc state. but give me the heels. I'm gonna stick with them. I know they're the top seeds. I know it's the boring pick. But i'm gonna take the heels to advance in that one but regardless again top to bottom fantastic quarterfinal round. Everything you'd want as a college tennis fan and then again i just. I think the semis are going to be classics as well. I think the finals going to be a classic. I think these next two days feature such phenomenal tennis. I could not be more excited to be here in orlando and again. I mentioned this at the top. I can't think all the fans who stick around till one. Am one thirty and the people who create this abner. Gee this atmosphere at lake nona. It means the world to college tennis nation. It's also showing fans who aren't perhaps particularly inclined to follow the sport at this level that oh man maybe i should because the action can really be that good. Yeah i'm sticking north carolina. i don't know why like pause there. I thought i was going to make another prediction. The point is again. If you're if you're in orlando come say hello. 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178: Cycling Week: Wheels Up with Canyon//SRAM Pro Cyclist Ella Harris

Marni on the Move

59:17 min | 2 weeks ago

178: Cycling Week: Wheels Up with Canyon//SRAM Pro Cyclist Ella Harris

"You're listening to a fit. Plus love production altitude camp and livigno team coach coaches getting us to rise with quite a located hills in metro orbis strength if it because in races. Basically you're not going to grow faster few unless you can push a heart aghia. We can push against a high resistance. So it's all about for me. It's about overcoming gear. Basically making sure that. I'm strong enough to be able to and and then when i need to be i would just push for that and also just on a flat section that i spend a little bit when i'm on. The klein's is a little bit more resistance than i like to make. Sure it's a bit more a strength it just so i have the strength. Alex available to overcome the resistance in really shot that cowl. When need be that was ella harris. This is marnie. Sal up thanks for tuning into my podcast. Marnie on the move. Each week i will be inviting interesting innovative and shakers to join me on the show and share their story. You will discover and hear from thought leaders experts influencers and entrepreneurs from the worlds of wellness. Sports beauty fitness fashioned. And more money on the move will feature an eclectic mix of people. I know work with and think are generally doing cool things. On each episode. I sync up with my guess about life career and training and showcase their expertise and story. Hello marnie on the move listeners. Welcome and welcome back on your host marnie salad as you know this week. I m dedicating the mic to all things cycling. I hope you've had a chance to listen to keep paulison from him. And kate vera new from swift. Today on the podcast. I am joined by ella harris a professional cyclist on the canyon tram team canyon. Schramm is a seriously also an inspiring team. A fourteen women cyclists from around the globe with a mission to take the lead by challenging the status quo and making cycling diverse and inclusive. Ella earned her spot on the pro cycling scene and the canyon tram team by winning the swift academy in two thousand eighteen and unlocking opportunity to join this. Incredible swift is the online kittens pot for bringing gamification de adventure. Indoor cycling running and triathlon lifters unlocked. Badgers prizes and game. Merch as they go. But thanks to the swift academy some lucky swifters unlocked real life opportunity. Ella harris was one such lucky right now. Four years later she is excelling in the sport before we get ruling. Shout to my sponsors. Inside tracker alkaline supplements inside tracker is the ultra personalized nutrition platform. That analyzes your blood. Dna and lifestyle to help you. 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Check out their website. Get off your acid dot com and use code ammo twenty for twenty percent off now back to our guest on this episode l. a. chats with me about her recent success in sport of cycling the challenging but motivating realities of cycling and all of the amazing places she guest travel and rock we think about her current training plan nutrition and what it takes to balance racing and her university classes at the same time and ella shares few pro tips on proper cycling technique and the strategies. She uses to stay on top of her game. I am sure that you are going to be incredibly inspired by our conversation. We have a lot of fun talking. All things cycling. If you like what you hear. Leave us a review. It's easy head over to your app. Wherever you like to listen on your apple device click on the five stars. Click on leave a review. And tell us what you love also sign up for our newsletter the download and share this conversation with your friends on social media wherever you like to get social now onto my conversation with ella. It's so great to meet you. Thank you so much. For being on the podcast. Thank you for getting in touch. Yeah this is so exciting so you just finished the lotto. I don't get to say it wrong. But the lotto belgium tour how are you feeling. I feel fine. Actually it was We finish on friday. So i think it's i know i don't know what day it is. But it's like so what was your. So what was it like. Like what's the course like. Where did you ride what. What was it like on so i. I was a product. So we just Full coloma two time trial and it was a little bit drizzly. Rainy ambit was around a flat fast rectangle basically that they used the motorcycle racing so the very fast and very nontechnical and as apple foments direct to put a motorbike candidate round these conan's a hundred and fifty head our than you could get round forty alice oh jeez breaks that was yeah pretty straightforward and then from stage one was just flat fast A course lacks will ask was five laps. twenty five k. And then the next day was also five laps They lamps were really hilly. Kabul's tight corners Twisty tunes little punchy climbs. It was basic. I think lots of people described as a mini tour of flanders. Exequatur was a hack in costs. And actually i crashed into a colin failed fifteen kilometers into the race at thinking to myself. Oh my gosh. This is going to be such a long day. Wants to go off to that early. Early fifteen cayenne out of one hundred forty so yeah it. Was it a long one that we got third. And then the final stage was up the was featured around the Terrible belgium pronounciation but a very was four times of miss climb and then a few declines in there as well not so many cobblestones loss. Stay three heads. Seventeen k with couples so the only couple on the final stage with climbs my hands and so pretty beijing up after the was like. How do you ride over kabul on a road bike. What do you just like stand up on the pedals. I mean what do you do like. There's a bit of a picnic to doing it. Okay the i just absolutely awful and then as you do it more than you sort of get used to it and you find what works and what doesn't standing out doesn't really work most of the time unless new pretty competent. Because you've been a heavyweight along back yeah you. He'll be down pushing big stadium Driving through you gluts basically so. There's a lotta technique that goes into it. So yeah you've gotta practice a lot. That's why i just style settling just grind it out my god. I can't even imagine. How do you recover from that. You just take a couple of days off. Do you have another race coming up. Yes oh i had the day off is a complete risk day in sunday. I just did a couple of hours easy yesterday. I did another couple of hours. But i just did. A few sprints just to get my legs back into it and then today. I did three and a half hours so i did i actually because we have a toa next week as well and in the that's just paying for the time trial. I did my time trial map. Y you hard i just. I used energy in the walnut. Basically and was. I needed to practice. My contra will next the next week. So i actually did twenty minutes indoors this morning doing my time. Trial will not practice. Making sure i can not too hard. And then the three hours on the road with just a few Building to my three shows a And then tomorrow out in the road and do some a bit more intense. Today on the tom troby A building intensity beck into it and then back into some normal training before tapering off again. Sir the toa next week okay. That's cool and so how do you. What do you do mentally to like. Pull yourself back when you have like all this energy and you feel like you want to go hard when you're out when you're doing like you said you are warm up. You went to hard like lake. Say like yeah what do you do. It's hard nobody. I don't really have an issue without telling myself back. Yongsan pilot training or an instance because but And instead an infant since it's pretty important to just stick to the desired target will sit. It's supposed to be doing otherwise you're just going into maybe completely to energy sistan or up your muscles or areas that don't need to be today particular time Yet for may just about thinking at throw and using common sense and logic basically think hot now and get my hot right extremely high in the wool out than i might actually go little bit harder in the actual rice. Yeah i've been there. And now i am tapering right now. Two weeks taper. Before i'm doing a seven point three triathlon and now the workouts are so easy and psychologically. I'm like no. I want my fitness level. 'cause my peak fitness level right now so i feel like i should release tomorrow but now i have the and i'm a recreational athlete so i'm here doing all the things wrong thinking like oh no. I'm going to do it for our bike tomorrow. Even though it says one hour or things like that that you know you have to like. Follow the plan and listen to your coach. And don't don't do the hard workouts. Now you you're tapering like that's hard for. It's hard mentally too. When you feel great and you feel like you have the energy to kind of pull back. I don't know yeah By the hardest just to go easy before a rice. Because i think what if identity finish the reds. Well i like that. You know i know you have a background in triathlon from when you were younger and also running so i feel like you know. It's hard when you start out slow or you start out easy right to kinda. It's it's not hard. It's just like i don't know if it's psychological or physical but sometimes like when you're doing a run and it's negative split or when you're doing a triathlon you have to conserve your energy and you feel like oh well if i can serve it now. How am i going to ramp it up later. I mean i'm sure it's not a problem. And you have a coach for recreational athletes. I feel like it's a real thing. Guilty of going to hajj insane. You love about cycling. Because i know like i said you know you have. You're you're running competitively running and doing triathlons when you were younger in junior high school right or yeah when you were juniors so what is it about cycling that you love. Let's not like the rice side the competitive size and nothing like that really. I just i just enjoy being out in the back when the freedom that brains and you can just challenge yourself Your a little ways. And i just like to be to lacks. I'm competence something in that. It's just. They're so many little skills and technique things that you can work on cycling. You can constantly improve whether it's absolutely blasting down a santa just just Maybe strength on the bike and just slow cadence. And just getting not make really dialed Things that you can concentrate on constantly challenged southwest and you can just exploit seventy compliances. I really like is riding the frames and having unprotected anal set targets to do just riding fouls on end and then maybe suffering sandwiches coffee. Yeah just enjoying the day and so what are some of your favorite courses or types of writing to do long slow while not so slow. I that terada. If i may you know that i've sort of go steadily day long always on the pills start. I enjoy just testing it out by alice. Just around the hills or trying. You roots exploring from places. Yeah just long rides really. Long endurance runs in my favorite. You're in your third year as a pro cyclist on the canyon tram team but it all really began because you are the winner of the twenty eighteen swift academy and as a result of that. You unlocked the opportunity to be part of the canyon. Schramm professional cycling team. So what was it like to go from one of us swifters riding as part of our training to an amateur cyclist to join this professional team. And you know. Hang with the pros. Nearly nearly four years ago. Now i is it for years. Yeah yeah basically. When i started the swift academy i was just considering my options in life. Really i was. I think in my second year out of high school and i was studying at university Via distance learning already. Because i wanted to do something with my cycling. But i wasn't quite sure what i wanted to do. I wanted to become professional. And i want to get to a very high level buck being in new zealand. It's difficult to find a way to actually go about that because you're so far away in financially. It's a huge commitment to be able to get to europe and physically. It's obviously a big commitment to travel over there and stay for a long period of time So i was considering my options really in a to the us prior to the swift academy starting in a done some criterium racing it actually looking back. It's a bit of a jerk now. Because i am so bad at accelerating sprinting anything like that. I just have about three fastpitch muscle fibers in my body. I'm just very much i did. These criterion rices In america and in canada. And i actually really enjoyed them and i was just. It was more for experience. It wasn't necessarily to actually get results because yep physically on not that type of ride. But i just did it to to get the experience to get the technique the cracks in the bunch. The handling thing. Just handsome skills So that while. And then i came back and i think it was july august it was new zealand one time anyway and i was just wasn't quite sure what to do with myself next and i knew the swift academy was coming up had seen advertised when i was in america and one of my friends. He's really into swift and he's actually a pretty competitive with rexha himself So he gave me a Are you gonna do it like you've got no reason not to basically had i knew i didn't i just i wasn't quite sure how would fit him with training and the rising in new zealand Decided to give it a crack. Mrs coach Can we these in the training sessions. So yeah we put them into. My program actually was a lot easier to fit in the neck owed. It was right. I just having to cran these workouts into my training program which is being too much but really i put it in the too high basket. When rarely donate debate there was completely manageable when yeah it was a great decision and you still train on a trainer indoors when you have to get it. I mean it's part of your training or not anymore. No necessarily when i have to. I try to well. Yeah i did a a ride in does this morning. So i do my coaches. He's a coach with swift. He was one of the coaches for the lift academy last. yes obviously. He's very much into swift so he thinks it's been official for me to station on the left. Then i will be on left. Yeah so i mean. There's a lot cyclists out there that are like oh i can't ride indoors. It's the same kind of people that say like. I don't like the treadmill or they don't wanna swimming pool but we know that that's okay because the secret is really like you know getting your training and swift is amazing. I mean i love being swift so the ride so like the shorter rides. I'll do on just because it's such a. It's so much easier to do a shorter ride for for me on swift than to go outside because by the time i get sought outside. It's already like and to get to a place where i can ride in new york city. At least a good hour. So i've wasted like an hour of my workout getting somewhere on my bike. I mean it's not a waste. But you know what i mean if i'm lazy i'll just do my sixty minute ride on's with just because be leaving convenient even though i've got rights find five minutes. Are you back in spain now or you where are you now yes. I'm in steininger back in spain in girona. that's where your team trains. Yup the only downside hairs that the apartment doesn't have very good ventilation spanish stuff your heart in the I had very good fans either. A couple of star injured my shoda. Sir i had to do a couple of rides swift Just move my training indoors for a little bit. And i ended up an virtually doing hate trading just absolutely cooking myself off three days just because the gosar hot and sweaty in here. That's a good training idea like instead of being upset about the heat just turning it into a training tool. I do that with yoga sometimes. I'll probably practice yoga on mondays and fridays. And sometimes i don't turn the air conditioning on. And i pretend i'm in mysore. Sore india works. Yeah i'm like well. This is how people really practice. So i guess you know i'm not gonna end. It's so hot though. But yeah i do. I do have to admit that. I'm not i do have fans and ac. I don't really like it. So i also think it's great for the for training. But yeah i go to a hot yoga claus and sometimes i get so switching i just. I can't do the poses anymore. Because i'm next gets to slip free. I tried hot yoga a few times. And i wanna like it but i can't much. Yeah yeah but i do but do you practice. Yoga is that part of your trade. I mean i know. It's not training specific. But is that part of your fitness routine in general a little bit. I do just more general stretching. I wouldn't call it. Yoga specifically in the general downward dog moves to stretching the cavs. Myron interpretation for anyone who's thinking of joining the swift academy and take doing the program for this upcoming swift on i think there are launching august thirtieth. What's the what is it like like because it just every day you're riding and training or how does it work. A water will be like this year because it's changed a little bit. Were yes since i do. Not but you had to complete a set number of workouts and do the group prides and then it will so some To rice's i think it was to graduate from the candidate. But i think the factually made it a little bit easier the years. I don't think there are so many workouts. The workouts will we just as high. But i don't think there are so many so much more capable to fit into everyday life for a training program. I think it will still be over the same period of time as well. So it's just about fitting in one or two sessions awake just where you can actually Fairly achievable to. Yeah did you feel like it even if you didn't end up winning. Did you feel like it really helped you as a cyclist to become better at cycling. Definitely i think it really helps to highlight your strengths and weaknesses. When you do the different workouts a targeting a different pal zones in different energy systems in the body. It really helps to say. I'm finding this session. Relatively okay or the next time you to another station might be slightly different. You might find a lot more challenging in different riders find different stations a lot easier a lot more challenging depending on the type of ride that you all so it's quite really highlighting your strengths and weaknesses on the bike and then being able to do something about it so you said like you touched on something that i'm super curious about like the type of writer that you are so you had mentioned earlier that you like doing endurance and that you can really hold the solid pace for a long period of time so you like doing long endurance rides and so does that mean that you like doing hills or you better on flat. Where do you excel in the world of cycling if you were to have to say like what kind of course i'd say i'm all terrain gray vehicle Well i i can be strong on the flats on the clients I do enjoy going downhill fast. So visible say that. And i wouldn't say i if you came to the line with me in the sprint than most likely you'd win splint at all about yeah i i'm caught a around rider. I guess i don't. Yeah i can. I can get off the clowns fairly while and then on the flash. I can be quite strong as well. So yeah and you can. You can maintain a good cadence that you are like. You said 'cause you can just go. Yeah i definitely prefer more of a consistence. Power output in rice's All up. Because if i have to accelerate out of corners or i have to do a few high intensity if it's before going into a steep decline and if matra show ever debated buff my through showed for a while and then i have to maintain a high if i really struggled with that defense. I just time trials a more a more by just because then i can control the bid myself. Linda on other people dictating how fast i need to go out of a corner. Yeah what's your some of your favorite places to ride. I don't know how many resources you've done but you've traveled all around the world to compete. So you know what are some of your favorite places to ride. Yeah i've i've definitely seen quite a few places in the past few years. I really enjoyed Boulder in colorado. When i was there in two thousand nineteen I did tour of colorado in steamboat springs scrabble rice so kind of colorado and i really liked and recently i was in livigno initially is quite high altitude in the mountains and i wrote up the some famous climbs like stelvio the gavi motorola and i really liked around. There was just useful. I've i've never really been in the in the mountains that before and it was it was amazing. What's the elevation there. Do you know do you remember. We were staying at eighteen. Hundred macy's but i think some of the clients we just we would have got up to about two thousand seven hundred so not like really high think in colorado and boulder you can get a higher Yeah that's fun. And so what do you do when you're climbing. What technique are you using to get up the hill like in terms of peddling up on the pedals masking amateur cyclist questions. Like i'm really learning about cycling right now. And i'm just curious 'cause i love hills. Yeah actually a genuinely good question because when you first start cycling Actually realize had hit nicole just sitting on. Your bike is and just positioning in this. Actually so much thoughts and time that goes into actually dialing in your technique. And i've actually a lot bit in recent times just working on my piddling ends Mike hades and my power output amending allah. That i'm producing is coming from the right places so like when i'm going to climb it's on finding at the moment it's because last year i broke my femur a my right leg so that leg i guess since then it hasn't been quite as strong or it's producing a simla palo At needs a little bit of reminded from time to time to actually go round properly and rightly gone. So whenever i'm going through the pedal stroke with my right leg and push from wonderful. If you're imagining o'clock just to give it like a little kickstart because that's the most important out of the pedal stroke is the is the initial wonderful section and then from there to the floats around but it's just important for it to get that initial acceleration sir. That's what i did with my right leg anyway. I just pray with my foot just to make sure that i'm sort of its neurological pathways and just rave reconnecting things in my brain and my leg. Just to make sure that the league's fully firing again But then i also really concentrate on having my heels down as well and pushing for my quotes said not so much quote dominated because when the quotes get too involved in he can get all sorts of issues with the nays. And yeah just about balancing the workload i guess. How do you communicate with your gluts to be active on the climb. And then how do you go back to get in your quads. Like what's that pedal stroke or body position like well you glued should be the powerhouses Meta way you're riding basically it's not just on the clients where you should be working but naturally the work more there just because you need a higher power output most of the time to actually get out the climbs but it's funny because when you first start cycling just you don't think about this stuff you just ride a bike just ride along and it's just as you become more involved than you do it more often little things creep into your head. You're just got so many things. The thing about like pedal stroke the festival before. I actually go out riding in the mornings. I do some activation work so festival. It's important to actually make sure that you gluts a- firing in that even when you're sitting down on the couch she can just fire each individual gloat. Yes your to do it. I'm like how do i fire my gluts. Even when you walking up stairs yeah con die today. Live on just experimenting and seeing if you can get your gluts firing and once that working than you not because you can feel it the naked. I'd on foreign foreign failing you can really feel it when you're going up the hill right. I mean that's the best time that you wanna take that feeling and say that's how it should feel all the time. 'cause you lose really i don't know that's even when you're running like when you go up the hill like your body should naturally like move into that zone. Yeah and it's also important to have good by position as well. A good goodbye fit because if you buy. It isn't as favorable in. You might be advertently placing pressure on the muscle groups as well. So it's about being a bikes. That's actually comfortable. And that puts you in a good position to actually be able to use your gluts in the important muscle groups and it's also used to have a stable core goods co. stability. So you're able to use that as keeping out still on the bike as well while the thanks to think about. Yeah but that's because calvo's relaxing the show. I think all that's good because when you're out on a bike for a couple of hours and especially when you're climbing you don't want to think about climate think about other stuff so you can get up now or sometimes it does get to match sometimes. What a switch. The thoughts up from just roger back. Yeah my other. Current like curiosity is gear switching and maintaining steady cadence rate. So and. this is something that someone mentioned to me recently. cycling coach when we were out on a ride because i was trying to maintain my cadence just focused on different things when i when i ride so particular ride i was thinking about my cadence and trying to keep it between like for me five one. I'm like one hundred and five pounds. So i can't. I don't have a lot of watts right now. And so i'm probably. That's not an excuse. Because i know that i was watching the course and like all the women look kind of tiny to there's all different kinds of writers but i saw people crashing me so i don't know what my excuses but no seriously. I was interested in learning more about you. Know the gear changes how often you're shifting and you know why are people shifting so often as it to stay. You're looking at your cadence to maintain a certain cadence. Or what is that all about. Is that too much to technical early. Worry about my kids. You don't okay. I and actually win. When we recent camp altitude camp in levino. Our team coach was getting to rise with quite a located south hills and make it more of a strength if it because in rices basically. You're not going to go faster. Few unless you can push a hardy gear. We can push against a higher resistance. basically all about overcoming the gear. Basically making show that. I'm strong enough to be able to ride with with a higher with a lower cadence. And then when i need to be able to push over that canes and also just him on the descent or on a flat section that i spent a little bit more about when i'm on the climbs were is a little bit more resistance than i like to make sure it's a bit more of a strength if it just so. I have the strength in my legs to actually able to overcome the resistance in. Really push out that powell when they'd be so. You're focused on power and watts. When you're training primarily. I there's a lot of things you can focus on right. I mean as a professional cyclist. That's your focus. That's your training. You're looking at power and what's not so much cadence or heart rate or things like that. Yeah well it's harder to to put out High apollo when you've got higher cadence because distances loa so just About finding that balance. And i can spend my legs when they just for the recovery solution. Them up in rice's when you need to be putting pressure on the piddles. But when i need to put pressure on the piddles Fast to make sure my legs have the strength to do that. Said what do i have to do to be better cyclist to. I need to ride more hours in the we have got the glue part. Down the oldest. I just focused on the little fence. Why the hills down like the technique making show that i'm fueling properly in the rices. Just the little things. Second road is positionings important. Trying to conserve energy that way and use my energy when it counts spending my time in the wind to learn and triathlon. Yeah yeah hurt for the based. And so what's what's your what's your average weekly training like these days before the taper like during your peak week leading into a long race. What's your training like. I think food one of the biggest wakes. I would probably do twenty five to thirty hours of riding. Not i know some people do a lot more than that. Generally i'd probate even bay between twenty twenty five. I can't really think of a week at the moment while in recent times where i've really gotten a loss of volume. When i was at altitude a couple of weeks. I think ask stephen die average and modifying of and it was it was it was eight hundred kilometers anyway. It wasn't particularly fast. Just because we're going after. John nelson doubleday yet. It's january twenty five to thirty hours. i haven't gone. I don't think i've gone. I did before but yeah generally around there. What kind of rides are you doing. Like intensity or their intervals. Endurance like what's the breakdown of the training like at the moment Because i have a wake awakened a bit between races. Two weeks actually I'm doing. I have a solid block of training that i'm doing but i'm not doing too much. Just because the intensity is a little bit higher than before now adobe tapering off again for the next race. I think if it's more of a listen intense wake than i might do a high volume. It might just be about getting the endurance in the league. And just getting in the in the case but they'll still be a little bit of intensity involved as well but at my very smart questions. My car shut up too much Students what you're told because you're a good athlete. Look into the reason for turn. Ask christians and there in lies the answer to my original question. What is the secret to your success. Even known secret. You listened to your coach. What are some of the biggest lessons that you have learned as a pro cyclist in the past few years that maybe you didn't know before you went pro. Life as a cyclist. Maybe how much food you have to. I know right. You have to eat a lot of food. You don't realize how important fuelling is in around your training until you hit. Rock bottom. Or something goes wrong in your. Who would i get to this. Point your because cycling. You burn a lot of calories and if you're on the bike twenty to twenty five hours a week i mean what's your nutrition like typically like what are you eating. What kind of foods are you focused on. does it. shifts throughout the year. Hasn't been very good in the past hits what i was alluding to because we broken famous quite a hat. Bone to break so yeah. I wasn't exactly in the best physical condition last year. A little bit mel lower from that point on up slightly. Been changing my ways. I guess it's about. I mean i've always asian really well and i've been very healthy. Atia thought to healthy. I guess maybe much salad too many vegetables too many things. That don't have enough cops so from spain about increasing my carbohydrate intake actually relaxing a little bit with what they aging. Because i haven't been eating enough when i've been training. So under sweating on improving that at the moment. And what he nutritionist in actually. Don't realize that while when you need to eat cops to be able to feel your training doesn't have like you can't just eat healthy food the time because Nearly get a hang. Hang of a lot of cobb's from those are just been about experimenting relaxing a little bit aging harry bugs aging cake from the supermac. When i'm riding. Just what has the cook cobs. Religious lowering really just. Yeah just trying new things. How did you break your femur bone. I crashed the day before estrada bianchi just slid out on a on. A kona was a greasy corner. There's nothing to indicate that it was slippery up. I came round the corner to normal spayed in my body just went completely out for me. Yes smack bang on my leg. Yay crashing happens more often than you would think when you're out on the bike so much maybe it's just a probability thing like the more you ride. The more chances are that that could happen. How do you mentally come back from something like that was were you just like oh i crashed and i'm just going to get back on the bike or were you kind of devastated. I was pretty fast to come. Round to the idea that i was out of the sport for awhile basically so once i got over the fact that i wouldn't be rice in the next day that i wouldn't be writing for probably another couple of months and i wouldn't be writing for another month at least in. I was okay because you've just got to accept the situation and the fact that it's not going to get better unless you have the surgery ivar through the rate habits to something you've got to do this on the way of getting around it so you may as well just accept to move on. Just stay positive because of the west. It's going to be a bit of a painful journey. So yeah there's no other option know exactly like i was. I couldn't lie. I couldn't move around in bed without screaming in pain so head to have surgery to get better than ahead to go through the rehab so that was lat leg and you think it was. Because you weren't you didn't have enough of like certain foods that you're eating and healthiness and it was like maybe your bone would not have broken in that situation. Had you have had a better nutrition plan ought snow because a my bones have time but also the full. There was quite a bit of impact from the full. It's hard to know whether it was just indeed my bones in fact it wasn't much protection around them also had something to do with it but i think maybe a fully grown male was in the same situation and crush the same way. Maybe they will break famer. I hear what you're saying. I mean i don't know you. Yeah i mean so now are you. You're just eating carbs and trying to really just get back in that. Get back to a healthy place because it is true. Like really do when you're training need to eat a lot of carbs and then carbs that your body can burn quickly like for for fuel so unfortunately like those cars have sugar in them or they have things in them. That aren't normally good for you. But in those moments like you need that secrete overall energy intake because you do the maths and you see how much you're eating in than how much regarding training and then seeing the difference you don't realize actually how much you need to eight and then you get that food and you're like for a lot of food. But then the nutritionist tells you how about you need to eight in. It's just a whole another picture. Yeah you just have to follow the program. I mean when you're a pro but even an amateur athlete like me. Who's maybe training twelve fourteen hours a week and my peak training for triathlon. Now i'll go down to like nine hours and you gotta eat a lot of food and it's like you know. What foods do you eat. And my go-to carb is is sweet. Potatoes look i feel like that's a good carbs but just after a while you get sick of eating sweet potatoes yes yeah you can't be too picky when it comes to getting in the anything and everything especially you body. Just choose through sir Getting it down do you put. What do you do for fuelling and hydration on when you're training and racing like. Do you have certain brands that you use. Your team is sponsored by morton. I used the motion thing. It's three three six Three twenty three six day in twenty one sixty. I think again. Maybe that's it. Yeah authorized. I have the three twenty in one sixty in training. I just use what is available if it's one sixty three twenty normally. I'm training I'm nato's cops anyway. Yeah the right. Take a take the three twenty. That i probably made the three twenty Yes you put the three twenty one water bottle right. And then that's eighty grams. Cobb yeah so you don't drink that in an hour do you and the rice. Yes you do you drink of water bottle per hour. yeah. I try to obey. Sometimes it's just been done for me. I've been testing out my nutrition because my body has totally changed so during covid. I wasn't really training or racing. I don't know you know in two thousand and twenty. I know that you were doing you. Were training and racing right because you have a few races on your schedule but like for for most people. They weren't right. So my body kinda changed and now the stuff that used to work for me. It doesn't work for me anymore. And do you also do like noon. Hydration or electrolytes and magnesium or ed's just electrolytes to apples because most doesn't have any electrolytes in them right. Most of the time. It's fine. I'm normally are okay that yeah some the other. Riders led to make sure that getting electrolytes as well just curious. 'cause you do you're out there you know intensity is high and it's not like you're doing an hour race you you do a lot of long ride so you and your it's hot and you're an altitude and all those things right so difficult mind. Nutrition is totally changed. I don't know what happened happened. covert happened. Yeah what were you doing during covid. I came to sustain initially to start rising much and then once spain went into lockdown. I left pretty promptly after that vaccine zealand's and then once the board is conducting to europe for new zealand's than i came back so i think that was july july came back and then stayed until lights or mid november. A new zealand was put. It was one of the places that was safer during much. Covert at all about that. Demane that we didn't have a lockdown home because yeah the the new zealand was to hod Sir lockdown liz liz. In full rather soon it's time to the to the european countries basically that it was just to lifted a lot earlier because there was a new people coming into the country's covid to comment on it was just about managing Come in on that happened. In the post country was clamp basically was smooth sailing after that just making sure that the The people that did come into the country. Once the flights ryokans on the managed isolation hotels darren plight. Got making sure that didn't get out from the hotels which happened a couple times. But yeah i must have felt good being there. I mean not the lockdown but just like that there wasn't kovin or there were cases. Yeah really nice. They're most people in new zealand's darn actually realize how good they haven't really yellow just completely laugh is as usual and then you come back to. European is a little bit more rail. Having to put a mask on that. I think most people have hand allergist going about their lives and just forgetting that coveted happens just trying to leave it in the past. So yeah it's little bitter over here than it has been. Yeah i can imagine. I mean it's the same here i mean it's like it never happened but i still. I still sometimes where my mask even though i'm vaccinated and everything i'm i'm a little now when i'm out training but like just in places where i feel like it might be a little sketch all look quite sure if there's going to be locked in a sort of announcement lack codes over now. People are just doing their own thing and deciding finished. Well i feel like there wasn't announcement in new york city because they basically announcement was like people got drunk all over the streets. There were celebrating like two weeks ago when our mayor decided. It's it's like crazy it's crazy. You know whatever it is what it is. I just i just don't yeah. New york city was also just on lockdown. Not the same way. That europe was. But i think people have officially lost their minds in new york city now and they're out partying at every possible moment. John what are you looking forward to in twenty twenty one like in terms of training and racing and like what. Are you have lined up for your schedule. I'm not really too sure. Actually we don't have after the rice next week Which is the binney ladies tour. It's like a tour belgium and the netherlands on the border and the early to show what's exempt racing. I have after that because is about a month with no racing so we'll have a little bit of a risk to the a break and then back into things. I'd really like to do the tour of norway. And i'm not sure i'm for that rousse but i also want to do the chance as well which is in belgium at the end of the Not really ulta october. i think. Also the Gouging wasn't really my favorite country to rice them. Unruly let's do the world clumps again. We'll make it work. Yeah so what is your favorite country to reason. I really like the uk. Although i haven't raced in the uk for since two thousand and nineteen. But i did the tour of yorkshire in the world championships in yorkshire. And it was really co- the atmosphere in the crowds. Just incredible when i think of the world champs ahead more people charing main cheering by in but i have had if a in my life even racing in new zealand so it was really cool but i was still like spain racing on the roads in spain because that just really nice wide open rides. There isn't too much cottage. Yeah nostra times in some good climbs. Yeah so would you ever other ever where you're riding your bike and you just are not competing or you know training and you're like stop and do a selfie in a beautiful road in a beautiful place she sometimes Pictures on my dad likes the pictures of him do they. You like riding. Do you like riding a new zealand in. Where do you like to ride their where you. Yeah i i really like writing than when i'm home but it's actually quite limited because there aren't really so many words around where i live most of the things that you can do. Just ask them back woah. You can do a big loop at soccer as a really big lupin. You wouldn't really want to do it on. A regular basis are what like the scenery in the terrain and views. A really nice where i live in new zealand but yet roads a pretty nasty just because the road ships really rough there some state. It's not a little bit limited. Sometimes it's just not ahead variety in europe. You can sue loose wherever you lie. Can every royd links out to another rodney denim to come back segue way. Yeah that's kind of good like. I'm from a mental perspective and just kind of like being out exploring new places. Yeah exactly yeah. Do you typically ride with your team or do you ever ride by yourself so low. Just go out for ride most of the time. I just ride by myself. Because sometimes most riders have quite varied training programs in. Somebody might have untabled to do on day than somebody else might have a recovery day so most is. It never really quite works in. It's really a group together to do like a big long rise yet. Most of the time. It's just easy to do your own thing if you've got some hilly fitzsimmons sprints than you've gotta try and plan at roche around that and somebody else might not want to go that way. Just get confusing. And sometimes it's just stick to yourself. Yeah and so you you have places that you ride where you feel safe that you can just go do a ride out where you live in girona. I have my go-to rights until when you're not on the bike. What are you doing when you're not sake. Would you like to do for fun. Well i don't really do it for fun. But i have my university study sir. I have to get more often than not. I just live at slide and then it catches up on me very quickly and i have three days to two assignments. Sir yeah i try and keep until the but what are you studying. I do food marketing. as quite random that i like it i just choice of the university website because it was one of the only courses that actually interested that office online so i just went with him. Yeah i'm i think i'm nearly finished. I have. I just have to do some work experience for it so yeah i'll be graduating next year and i try came on top of that when i can when i have the motivation. Obviously professional cyclists. You're going to continue doing that. And i know it sounds like a dream. Job is a dream job. But then there are other elements that it's not yet sunshine. The toll it takes in your body is quite a bit. And i have to say i have been reconsidering what i've been doing just because having a famous having to broken pelvis like broken elbow like it's just a little bit too much sometimes. This is another major injury. Then yet that might be not retirement cooling while no i i do enjoy it and it's just. It's been quite a long road to recovery and back to fitness since famous. Or i'm so almost a watching the rice where can really just be like. Yeah i'm back again. It's yeah it's differently. Rewarding wants wants everything falls into place awesome. That's awesome and so so you're studying so you're studying food marketing and you think. Do you think that that's something that look a career you might get into at some point of your of your life where you might get into like work for. I don't know like consumer packaged goods or one of these nutrition companies. Yeah i'd really like to It sounds like potted nation degree. When you fess care then you think about it in your lack while everybody food is not going away in a hurry. The food industry powerful in the will. Then they need nakata's to help To help help you let yeah. I think i definitely like to work for a food company. I mean it'd be really cool to work for a cycling specific nutrition That i just like the cute little peanut butter companies in new zealand. The niche vegan. Yeah were you vegan. Both again but i just yeah i ate anything but i just like to to look towards. I'm quite interested win. New products in new companies. Come out on the scene in into the supermarket. So i really not to try them and i like to to have a look and follow them. Yes so new. Products and new foods really interesting. Obviously growing consumer trends towards healthier aging in the likes veganism whole foods. And that sort of thing. Yeah and if you had to pick something on your bucket list what would it be. I don't really have an ultimate dream. I'm just. I'm more scar. Year-by-year i guess about next year. I really want to do the commonwealth games in birmingham birmingham. So that sort of a big big big goal at the moment And then once. I get there will will re evaluate things in singapore. Annette your also really want to get into gravel racing as well. I was gonna ask that next by the way. So i don't really know much about the tyranny of the gravel prices. I just know a few of the big names. Yeah did yeah. I'd really like to to get into doing similac. So how'd you get into gravel road cycling. 'cause i'm also totally interested in under how how allegra transition in the future. We'll say i starts with the right bike. Yeah i needed for bike for status in your off month. Will you do any other sports. I really liked to to go walking. Walking's my big home. And i'm with my parents. Then we just go on fast walks. We just stayed walk around the neighborhood. We try to do sub nine coloma's for walking. That's that's quite fast. Yeah that is fast on trump at quite fast will go sir. Yeah that's what i like to that. I also liked to slow down. Sometimes and not do spayed. Wolves spent more just walks in nature. Or i really liked to visit different places new cities and i just wander around the streets just every single straight a discover often down the shaw soon around the cafes and try with the cafes and coffee and just wonder everywhere so here. It's one of the things that's so cool to do you. Do you go sometimes when you can to like a race or a new place early so you can do that or you do it. After norway with rice is it's quite difficult. Because we just find them we fly out bots like lasts. Last week i had a couple of days between a training camp in livigno in the rising belgium sir. I went to the city in austria for a couple of days. It wasn't actually as big as i thought it was. So there weren't many states whoa ground cafes and it was right on lake constant sir. It retirement finished a ride. I was able to astrid in Said that was really nice as you still swim a little bit for fun fun. Swimming no on the beach. I just hiked sand sir jumping into the lake by jumping off the jd or rocks awesome. Well this has been so much fun no worries thank you for having me sir. Thanks again for tuning into marnie the moon. If you like what you hear leave us. A five star review in apple podcasts. 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CNN 5 Things Special Bulletin:  Surfside Building Collapse

CNN 5 Things

04:32 min | Last month

CNN 5 Things Special Bulletin: Surfside Building Collapse

"This briefing is brought to you by curiosity stream with a special report on. The building collapsed and surf site florida. Here are things you need to know. Rescue crews are continuing to look for survivors this hour. After a long night of searching through the rubble of the champlain tower south condo building and while there was some hopeful news on survivors. It was a tragic night. We do have a hundred and twenty people now accounted for which is very very good news But are unaccounted for. Number has gone up to one hundred and fifty nine. In addition we can tragically report. The death count is now for. I want to be very clear about the numbers. They're very fluid. I will continue to update you as as we have them but we have confirmed four deaths. That was danielle levin. Kaba the mayor of miami dade county speaking earlier today. She added that the scene remains active with more heavy machinery. Being brought in search and rescue teams. Continue to work around the clock. florida state. Fire marshal. Jimmy petronas says the search is extremely tough for emergency workers. The level of exhaustion is enormous as soon as they come out. They're carrying you know. Eighty pounds worth of gear. Having us to be mainly because of the sheer threat of a building that is unstable looming over them as they are crawling in tunneling under debris to save lives and weather conditions aren't helping either storms temporarily stopped the search yesterday with more bad weather expected but the mayor says they're very hopeful. There are people who can still be rescued. Miami dade officials say a boy was pulled alive from the rubble but as reports of the collapse spread families awaited news of their loved. Ones may never here with wife on three more. Children can never lose. Hope is unbelievable. My mom is an absolutely amazing person. She's a fighter and she fights her every single one of us. And we won't stop until we won't stop fighting until we find her. The collapse has resonated worldwide especially in the americas at least thirty one people from argentina chile colombia paraguay venezuela and uruguay or reported missing in the collapse. A number of different officials in florida have been keeping families up-to-date as workers search for their loved. Ones governor rhonda. Santa's has declared a state of emergency today vert resources to the area which was then approved by president. Joe biden that means federal emergency aid has been made available to florida with equipment and rescue support being brought in from around the country. Now how did this all happen. What caused this collapse right now. No one knows for certain officials say they're still investigating terada season. Amini civil engineer and professor told cnn it will take full investigation to find out what happened. There is a number of factors that could have contributed to collapse. It's gonna take some time annoyed so there's a natural tendency to find out exact cause of the collapse right away but the way. The structural engineer approach these type of problem is we clicked. All the data has families wait to hear about the fate of their loved ones crews continue to search the rubble looking for survivors and bodies. That's all for this. Cnn five things special edition for more on this story. Go to cnn. Dot com curiosity stream is the only streaming service with thousands of documentaries. That will actually teach you something. And there's new shows every week like this week. Who killed trudy atoms and the wonder dogs for just a dollar and sixty seven cents per month. You get unlimited access to curiosity streams library of content available anytime anywhere on any device. Sign up now at curiosity stream dot com slash news. That's curiosity stream dot com slash news.

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RIP Harley Race this week in Wrestling

Ring Time Pro Wrestling's tracks

1:14:38 hr | 2 years ago

RIP Harley Race this week in Wrestling

"Right here right here is some bali of what it's all about. This is the world's heavyweight title they say this. I mean it in all sincerity. The world heavyweight title held by harley race not once but twice over half of my life devoted to what i do better than any other human being in wrestling. I am not going to allow any human being to insult about me or this when i say that i mean and dead sincerity when i walk in that ring i'm walking in there as is world's heavyweight champion hi. I'm walking in there to defend what i hold probably more close use than any other man has ever held. This is my life. You've heard your ric flair's talk about being cock of the walk. You've heard your thunderbolt patterson. You've heard them oli anderson. They all talk about being the man flare parades around saying that he is the ultimate man buddy. This is symbolic of being everything that any human being ever wanted to be that that man is harley race and for one of those individuals that i've mentioned or the various others to beat me then let them walk around and claim to be what they are. You're looking at the world's heavyweight champion the man that can truthfully say that he can beat any man in the world we took on this in five detect skills the apprentice through the planetary back to go so for me. I thanks mike. I'm ki what's up everybody. Rainy time progress in the building and keeping kisha are beck's sunday night live. He should say to the people hit but in a high enough so i'm a bring the energy up a little bit with this show. I feel a little crazy crock <hes> so we'll play a song for y'all and we're gonna get stay rolling. Yeah tell them patrick george boyce said since everybody thank older then we'll start. Um hum interrupt song. We don't have enough bullets and songs anymore. Just not enough say those words hurt. I know that seems it extremely poor taste right. Now hopefully doubt about three slater but anyway hotel aw combat. Thanks i was looking for the clean version and you see here's a funny thing because we do customer to show sultana right keys. I know i'm getting old. When i was younger i would listen to a song and i'm like you know what should play edit version. They shouldn't have radio versions. Let's have buzek as to artists intended for it to be heard and you know what if it's the customers customers abby cussing. You know almost forty. You know what i'd be like with everything. Gotta be so vulgar stuff to steve excessive like okay 'cause the radio version might be like yo. Oh let's go. Let's do it exceed oh we listen. Outwards is like this go bitches slap. Your bitch is like oh own. Go no new. This is a necessary. Do we need all of that. I'm not anti custody because still i just don't i don't consis butch approach right right around y'all heated people think algebra because when of course she was like keith uk-us too but you just did. She got around y'all she was like oh. You actually custody much 'cause y'all go off this. I remember young children. Auto worst. Doe does the debate. It'd be okay but you ought to here yeah. I wouldn't say it in a so in our hill. I'm just saying eh he ever chess time jalen. If she start cussing he can't do it. Terada gotta helmet. He cannot jazz awesome. Thank you gabe you know yeah well. I know you got it for you. Dan you grocer. You know funny today. If funny is having a conversation one day we <hes> you know mild but then like around dead and the whole script there. Are you ma'am no. Let's got back together. All the main. Mom needs to be like. I'm like the hell i don't notice later. This is another christian lady. I grew a cheese care about bits. Who what yeah that'd be scared so terrible. I just shoot somebody. This is you would only actually and all of the various may have to and be married him but you have got to heo. Actually this is no way around. There's no way around it. I don't care nobody's saying it is a day of it there. I didn't knock against against ma mass. She say some stuff's attack the house i am somebody would bring up some weird stupor. Have i don't know why people yeah asked these crazy questions. Like what would you do if you're gay. Don't bet i knock his. Oh let me just try to go to the stove. Oh lord jesus well then. Why does what i sent you that clip the other day. I was never battery baba where he was like y'all to drink pepsi. Let's see who you are man. All i heard is especially when you don't have washed dishes does anyway oh broader touch marcello. I don't even know exactly what that means. I'm sylvia that you we don't do the dishes correctly but at the time to correct or ask you just got landfill he in those that are watching vases. <hes> the the <hes> the pace of oh you know that kind of when it comes to the pots and pans you know those day in the water 'cause they gotta so you stay in water. 'cause they gotta so every well. Your niece will leave a stone. Act like shield is see it like oh. I gospels washed it life. Did we say clean the kitchen out. That was over there. You didn't put an english sake sake. All this stuff in the secret washed africa sup with so. I'm not touchy and ed badger she. She did a bad job for like four or five years consecutively. It just don't care like i'll go to the dishwasher washer grabs so i gotta rewind it before i use it because i know she sh- wholefood beyond i'm like you even tracked. Look what you do now like she. She absorbed the early in the early punishments and now we gave up we live should be. I could yell it out that they were working right. We don't hit keys elbow dirty dancing one day. I realized about it. She just so it's it rolls out roles on like investing sue now late all right in coop like a yellow k. k. take a i like how no 'cause. I'm getting upset and i don't i don't i don't know what the recourse is. I don't know what to do next heated she. She she'll be back downstairs later on like hey. I need to sign this school. I still don't bring me like i did. Nothing you'll be yeah. I mean all scientists permission slip that like i like bound <hes> with which has any are not sign the permission slip ella se no doc like no. You can't go to the zoo. I i don't care stale ass off art at the i've been on every field trip you but he would have never left like three kids beck at school and somebody got like sit with the gentleman because everybody you know 'cause. They took everybody on the trip and said hey y'all gonna sit here the peanut butter jelly until we come back 'cause baba's keiko or do they just roll rolling right like. I don't think there's errors in like a parent. They're going to yeah it. A little. Were probably won't it has to be clear will i. I i don't know any sleep. You know what i'm saying. So oh okay ever you know how they inside visit with it though on the truth yeah here's a day out. I'm not doing anything crazy. 'cause i don't want to go to the home. I told you we intend all this stuff all this stuff air duct just to i don't want to go to the home. I don't wanna go to bed at home. You know what i'm saying. The voting will be like you know what we're gonna. Take dead today their place overall bank here you you see the old. The old assisted living with the bars on it. We're gonna take you right on down there near me what it would. It would be a eh right like you walk in. You can tell they only getting paid billable. Wage liked like the attitude is all jacked up for the beginning you hear of the old people where you mrs johnson fucking down like oh shit this happy all right. We're talking about your lock. We've been outta jell o. Two weeks why y'all keep asking about it see you know see no because i feel like it because i feel like addictive child synergy there with the let's siasi. Y'all have keys so y'all got somebody. Just that discipline has thrilled so i'm trying to get anywhere i feed in. Don't live and you know get one. Y'all key to how what are you. I'm going through. The home got that option if they'd say i'll get but now i'm a man 'cause i'm not gonna do the day mccain altruistic view the next thing you know the sad who out of the habit but uh which is not something this left all your money right now and they wanted to while y'all comes either one or two issues aside <hes> i did you did you oh you did i when she said this was she said it is a whole life with nothing to do. I'm sure people like that either. I'll be followed right whole house what you're doing to. I'm just how this cleaning the what you doing them. Which you now you tell us that clearly the pass on us. You know beaching uh-huh i'll be i'll be one of only go. People are now getting a deacon would accommodate. Oh you do own who talk you. Can't you try if i'm not there for john's. We've we got us to this a lot of shelby throughout so don't wait as you heard open it pro by the legendary harley race who passed away <hes> <hes> what was it thursday this week at the age of seventy six so i was looking online and shelter russell katie because i quite as kip. I was like y'all move too quick data posted to pass the first thing i saw facebook and i was like out this true. The people kept asking to deal with a live cd and i'm like y'all move to eh made any data yet about ten minutes later. It was confirmed like on all the sites life oh okay so they had it. I kept coming down the time line and harley race is maybe what the under appreciated ledges of our time and i think just because of where it his base star was so his key points starved are the seventies early eighties so we have a a lot of footage of so over the last twenty years are major superstars might have been over expose expose but we've seen a lot of right so you got a lot of off to you got a lot of rock. You got a lot of t._v. Bed like regular t._v. Matches with these guys we rarely saw his harleys best matches all television because they just wasn't like his best matches were like in territories is some of those video footage is around and you could catch it now as a starting to circulate aboard tape libraries are being bought but for the most part like we don't see as much as we would like on a w._w. Network you're going to start k ah eighty three versus flare of should have some matches versus dusty that you could find <hes> but for the most part we don't we don't have that with harley <hes> because even with flair dusty an whole get an eighty stars you did see them a lot more because does not work and the consolidation of the business racist like i said his his peaks aren't really seato television but uh i will look at some be argued us with flair but i would say as much as a flare has race. I feel like he's last true world champion right but eight hundred eight w._h._m. <hes> <hes> being a it it was it wwl title. I think we're still the most prestigious title in the business so oh he was he was a well did it. In the territory system was still in place like what racist the territory of system is just are falling apart but the early in his career it was a full sweep right so he would travel around and he would <hes> make sure that the title was held up at a highest state and he worked at work so basically if you notice to territories worked. Let's say we're here in georgia georgia championship wrestling. I'm in this territory and the territory. I have my top star which might be mr wrestler to was it was that the top star george gypsy wrestling's harley has made a russell mr to a he gotta do our mr russula to he has to do with our new york with by backley. He got to do an hour detroit with the sheikh he got to do our that's what he does and he did that over and over again so he was an eight time world chip which i i want you to understand. There was a tad. There wasn't a lot of multiple type in w. champion at that time so <hes> you had would you had to run for a couple of years. You probably never saw delta gear dorf. Julia was a chance eh four and a half years but that was it like it. Did it come back to terry forgetful years. It didn't come back tool. I think dusty hat to to rose's transitional transitional chip but that was about it race carry de boy eight times but <hes> yeah i do it. All i think he is is probably the greatest in the last of the world champions <hes> nice it was a true world champion and i mean he traveled al over japan with mexico who've really big in japan <hes> louder leisure mattress giant baba in the seventies he he calls the deadly took the belts off dory anterior fuck lobby were not in the fox still only brothers to hold to n._w._e._a. World title title <hes> only brazil hold to build the only father son combination ever had a title as dusty dusty and cody but that's it. They're like the title which is still existence. The tipaza goal is <hes> nick artists still represent built. Take it around but yeah harley really embody body to champion. He believed it now. The guy broke into the business teenager. The teenager like nineteen fifteen is a different world. It was a different tire harley six four to twenty five in highschool. He gets a to it subdued again to a fight. They tried to break it up. Principal came in and somehow principal got knocked out by her heroines kicked kicked out of school. Hardly goes on road professional wrestling quiche. This is weird. Pro wrestling was k- eighth if we didn't know what was behind the seeds he is fighting grobian smoking cigarettes like fifteen sixty like you start off as a driver for a guy who's <hes> forgot his humphries. He was like eight hundred pounds and couldn't drive award so harley harley driver's license back to you especially like it rule towns into the country. 'cause you know you you talk to your family debuted. Maybe like offshoot here. We have a draft so his thirteen like how to hail button who pull you over title right but yes so harley driving around smoking cigarettes getting into legit shoots so he is known as like a legitimate tough guy in a business tough so we talk about bad asses we talk about shooters shooters a lot of times we talk about his amateur wrestling background or gas who walks alerts and all that stuff that's dangerous. Whatever harley was classic classic barroom. I will just like you know karate. I know crazy kind of pay. Okay people did like people legitimately like didn't mess with it like big foley tiller story where hot say look. If i hit it went by right he don't go now. I will walk over to the left sack to see was hoping to but right because behold but 'cause he should have went up any believed that obviously about himself and i've never heard okay. There's two guys that i've never heard anybody say that. These stories are purposely or exaggerated. That's him at how cool people basically like yo. If it go down these dues go rescue up and people were scared of harley would he was like sixty people scare highly race ace to appoint. There's another story of well. He probably was fifty steer but like he worked as a manager denied these bears vader bet as luger her any backstage and the doctor light told foley hebei. Hey you got injured basie. The athletic commission will cover the medical expenses if if it happened in ring but did happy if have happened outside he wouldn't cover it. He was like hey man. You bumped yourself out real harley dock it happened it rate late in the corner no no so that it happened in the rain all right. We'll cover it here you. I think people didn't cross harley. He <hes> he had fused with dusty rhodes. At ric flair. He is the one that passed the torch to ric flair and or day flair as really the decks guy. The guy was a lifer the business he ran a school for a lot of years so it's hard to really really fully calculate impact of harley race to the the professional wrestling business and is that he provided for a lot of your favorite restless holiday stuff like nick put out people like he would about flare like you watch arrest all of a sudden. He like look man. I'm tired of ric flair. There's do keep the bill. He keep doing this. Look hugo briefcase or twenty five thousand doubts. Somebody take about get it. Oh really work daddy and dan somebody else out and brooks deck got the buddy but that kind of stuff happened which in modern wrestling could do it because to beat people would be evolved responses like dole we can't do that. We'll occurs a hitman bad. Also you could do it these days. 'cause so we're idiot would actually probably try to do it like a civilian. Do try to take out somebody yeah. So stuff happens. <hes> uh quiche you authorities say on this or 'cause. I'm just be real. <hes> you said everything that i would say about the he truly icon. That's gonna be missed. You know what i'm saying. Highly race was due. He was literally that dude thank everybody that is a wrestler wrestling fan and any other sort they do hardly grace period point blank to end it don't matter the age eleven lab is what it is you know so yeah. She is definitely gonna be pissed so as we move water raw which i guess was okay this week. It was a terrible maria analysis the new twenty four seven chevy eight yeah. That would not no me right no for me because i'm not how does she dropped. It felt like for her to end up having to type more questions. Somebody gotta be savage. Obviously nobody got to really be savage. Here's the thing i hate her character in a way that i can't even describe right and i don't hate it like oh. There's heat who boy i'll be happy with. Somebody takes her dow. I hate the character as i wish whoever wrote it withdrawn not dad that dad put just drought enough where like he was scared. It was going like somebody just pulls you out. Just tired and you just breathe a real hard with the water though you're scared like i need to happen to whoever been right this care or whoever thought that this was the way to go right 'cause it's unnecessary. It's not funny. It's not entertaining. It's that you know be all right. Z pregnant all right. I get it right good for her by right good job child number two but just make her obnoxious. Some of the stuff she's say is so over the top. It's look there if do best flat you. I could tell you that i would have to take violence against women. Thank you know to be like i feel like point like u._k. Just keep doing it and basically what she'd do. It is pushing boundaries. That are just unhealthy like you. You should be able to behave a certain way just because you know people can't hit you. You never be. That's what she's doing out no like i just i okay job with it as a story. <hes> is one of those days like i really had a responsibility. Possibly of a podcast stop watching it ought to be like is is that kind of fake ricochet wiz garland. He'll <unk> face a._j. Styles of summer slam express what big surprise the o._c. I guess is what they call. Gallows anderson <hes> took the belts off the revival of the triple threat max youselves so the the the bullet club per se got got got some goal. They got attacked titles at a._j. Styles is united states champion or what do you know i it was quite so. I took a picture with shift sadok cabrera who had to i._c._u. Title like bad debt debt doc coup for the two thousand sixteen new japan ray looks all right off the surface because how they treat deputies titles will will be you know 'cause right now. There will ever rotect titles that is better with the d._a. Aspire was really good tack teams. They still find a way to make it a discs by <hes> russo's. Might i mean you probably are the best that generation the revival classic tag team would a lot of skill gals air sedate nose up see there was this like it will just the match like to have but gal got the builds. The viking raiders beat up some jobbers which i'll be whatever <hes> becky lynch defeated alexa bliss and nicky cross but there was a tech laddy after batch which this is weird. So what did he tell you becky lich sake. Who's the he'll. Who's the baby face. We don't care. We blurred it lands. Are we trying to make the tally academy. He'll cut us even with the access of becky the talian really. I don't takers he'll. I still take the baby face who got revived so i feel like it's a weird spot like i took would talent who wrestled and was actually at a trade session got attacked so she decided to attack her attacker after she had a match. I think that's all there who was a roof for this this this just observation because even now the crowd crowd still saturday becky but i think i don't know if i would rule with that but <hes> seth rollins had a decent batch doves ziegler till brock list. Does the attack check was over the top or did you stick with to do probably deal with the navy. Do <hes> anything that was too much at first i i wanted to say that i had to watch it twice because i want to make sure that in my opinion of it was correct but yeah i thought it would be. We know that i don't like this week. I i don't see any idea wassef would beat brock walk. I mean i won't say that. I don't know until they like do. They want a do when they wanna do i. I could see him even brought back the same time. If you've lost i would even be bad. I just had a new and then every yeah 'cause the ethic. If brock loss would make sits for right honestly the way. I think they're going to lean maybe the next thing for broncos bras dromey made at least that's how i would. I would do it but you have because it via avoidable brought more around being a bully. I could see rely us broad like aamir. Watch take somebody else is like all right right so just something to think about just to handle. We'll wait but so far so good it did. Of course the civil subject was supposed to happen which i thought was a dumb idea but hey it was an excuse for a brawl. <hes> robot joe had a little fight which jones boys attacked robots that use those backstage already happy turn into a brawl and right now we have factions ladder up rogue is of course 'cause i'll be desk family legit. Do you realize that in high school day was all play football players together. A liked <unk> bekker's would use those at the outset robot at the middle linebacker who wanted to i mean you know yeah man so i can imagine that that will be terrified in in high school but you know just up the habit <hes> bid they were there. <hes> sigit galaxy six took a prime spot in abroa- drew mcintyre showed up so i mean we'll see <hes>. Maybe we'll get eight eight man tag next week. I'm pretty sure no raw ball that was right home about for this show. We will take a break. We'll come back forty four minutes. We are redo a break. We will have to do a cornet deteriorated juice in a lot going on in the news either but just you know half. We'll be back all right ladies and gentlemen. We got a little earlier on here. On saturday nights main of mathis don mania i walk into macho madness and hauge mania to make up our is being here tonight. What is happening gee. We really don't know what we're doing with your man. Just a little worried about enough fear us. It's just my whole planet. You know everybody knows that whole samania visit storm is forcing this universe get that free and i saw what a mattress was all about. I realized universe their own frontier power the madness in the media just levi twenty four inch. Go south to tell me there is another solar system from the state of sack like now yeah yeah what would a youth the muscle listen he gave me the wrecks and yeah some they'll get in the mega power power over the half entre commands rate never been better yeah. Don't worry about it over the head. Man talks afford about where we're going from mirror sphere mass visit the all those fears with the mascot one got fourth. We take the take beta that lowers the heavyweight champion and welcome in you yeah what's up. We are back <hes>. I almost forgot about birthdays. Let's go down and see who has perf birthday. We have me. I know he will have their days. I mean i i know last week this week not really today. The show will tell you that because area celebrate the birthday debacle celebrating a birthday yeah sandal had a birthday yesterday but that's about it like it ain't as heavy as it was last week though <hes> as far as news goes triple baited with down in mexico aaa hit there a will is triple triple media twenty seven. I don't have a full recap of it. I can just tell you tessa. Blanche was go seven woman t._l._c. batch. She figured <music> out how to get to the belt so shout her as were impact is now she wrestling. Do you know it is what it is. Ramona street cases at the wildcard rule is going away. I don't believe it. It would make sense to go away for a variety of reasons. These rosters need to be separate. Two distinctly different shows a woodhaven add bischoff rid of the show absolute both of them. I don't really want to cross pollination right because to heart to right right like you can focus on a few. We don't have different people so so it's like this. If i got back attire oh both shows an yeah. He deal with central air door rob did he deal with kevin specked out like it just becomes a little too confusing so let things flow isolates you you isolate your belt catholics at a gopher there also were there is a crossover it could could be special affidavit to go back to the separate pay per views at daily together at the big four. You're right and see what happens after that out the other big news at w. Bobby lashley we'll be out. He has an injury injury and he'll be out at least until the fall which i don't know if it's good or bad for him. 'cause dowd dowd out forced to try to find something in which you're working. It definitely works better for a superstar returner. I will do some advertised. It is circuit to something. That really has teeth. I think he's a guy it could be a bigger star than what they book for him. He has all the tools at he has good esteem about it right so our see what we do with their <hes> with debt dead. I don't really think they came across this week. Destroyed to talk about or i mean because if not what we'll do is we'll go calm. I don't <hes> i mean tell the truth. There wasn't that i was highly. It wasn't really got the newsweek that stood out to me <hes> wrongly. I have my little here ears but this is what we got. I ain't got it. I gotta do this divorced. I guess she her personal trainer excels with p._j. Broad talked about their relationship. He basically said the riots. I guess i don't know i just thought i don't know out of say dude. Did she found abella gossip. <hes> becky lynch to appear straight up steve offset the u._s._a. network so she go hang out with austin rat four wheeler wheeler proud <unk> beckoned rich <hes> the show premieres august twelfth u._s._a. So basis come out after all so good for becky good for oeste right you know but other than that <hes> <hes> we'll get a smackdown rap to stay because <hes> we. Let's say what a lot to talk about <hes> k._a._o. Hey oh defeated drew mcintyre shades. He won't be at the show would takeo conflict with shave fright you too booker the shave winner lose but no one has to leave and if you say kale has the leave the kale today that it wouldn't make sense to have him gone quote unquote because he gonna with in you know but that's what would they do that just to make it. Does that a storyline so here's the thing if you could make it matter you could do it so does hassi shane already lost aerobic raids out of keeble lucid right also. I don't know if he needs to keep having batches because he has had a match. You like every pay per view were talking about the mystique of an authority figure is not that they always wrestling is that you finally get talked to russell after product pushy is here's what i'm saying so already i would reverse this because idea would be used drew mcintyre probably by proxy but they drew took the losses this fake just like he did with robert rate so unless you go elevate drew out of it ain't really helpful to hear either <hes> if i was booking it i would book book a._o._l. To lose but be the w._w._e. Are very different this k._o. Would actually go away under my watch josh so this is what they would do what k- off the very next specked out he'd be on the show he the snuck tuck into the arita which he still cover backstage. It did try to attack shaded. It'd be whereas in a man i would do like two weeks of him just for being there i'd have shay glow come out and even have like almost followed him around but don't he don't know we follow him around. Just show cares a hindu but day stuff like taking his kids school or stuff. I like that so by secret camera setup you know they watch it at work out and stuff like that and even last selected works of lit up due to be volve right. Let him do massachusetts championship restless that was it's like you actually have to buy cooper interview abuse of interviews. Look there i i i. I hate to tear that were there. I would love to come back right now. I just gotta do what i gotta do feat by family because this is what we know. This is what i know. They're right. There's ways where you could sell it through social media stuff like that. I always feel like the puck day was handled horribly wrong. Aw that's respect i would have had him like defeated w. w. e. e. title the backyard against somebody right. I would've had him. I would let it show up at all. Wait are worked out. A deal with the next big show had a he. Just can't lose the belt other than everything else ought to table. I would look file legitimate court papers it adjunction against him to try to get the belt back beck. We're like the way the media people the recipe who would have been forced. It's like treated get real like hey. I noticed supposed to be fake but i think he i think he really would away because he has built a. He's be a sued. There's a legitimate lawsuit filed in pennsylvania court. You know that i had lawyers skirt down and get rid of it but uh-huh like you could really like get some mileage out of this. This is where you bring back you. Although somebody was a level head triple eight shoes always been advocate for kale would advocate against his brother in law. It creates attention to the family baby. They get to bring it back after a few months. You know what i mean like. There's a whole range playfulness by don't think they have it uh-huh. That's all <hes> alexa bliss. Nikki cross defeat bailey booed. Barely riboud have issues shoes communicate that matches going down. It's summer slam. He could tell you that those guys will have their backs and while we were memphis back down <hes> jerry lawler had a key court where if i trip stratus who was then challenged by charlotte flair for bench at summer sleep walk his you mail. They now have max book. That's bigger than any women's batch dessel either shows right is charlotte flair and trip strategy the bigger than italian and becky licks. Here is bigger booed and bailey. Yes will it still show. I don't know it depends on the shape that tristesse in in the ring shapeshifts but is going down in toronto tristesse hometown. There's alaso plot story line. There's like look you think you the greatest of all time charlotte and you have the most outstanding wrestler debt has been in the business. You probably have what off state or records sevigny bite has been a business. You have been a big mac superstar yoho career right. You'd have beat everybody generation as we're talking about but please don't sleep over trish stratus in a greatest of all time debate. Please do not like belittle you know the person who set up what do people set the foundation for this. I think there's a there's a legitimate story latte or work in really get some stuff cracking for sale and shout out to the women's matches who thanks if you get three matches of you get iconex tacky max like you really loaded up the car here right right right on a side note me. You'll get a title shot. We'll preview take over next week but be a you'll get the title shot you do have to say about doll ziegler beat baylor porsche it. I don't know what's going to happen to fear loss bill. Oh got attacked by bright wide now. Lead to the phoenix should say dr bureau so should we have a batch kofi defeated styles in a champion versus champion match with nobel. Don't settle i did of course the raiders attacked backstage but kiss and he russell samoa joe service like duty to have the big announcement or i mean come on that. It does what we go it right now at all they do what they want men to say just flying off with it in the negative but other than that man <hes> next week we we are going to preview take over and summer slam the show a drop thursday night will break down both shows what we expect. Do you think takeovers go steal the show again. I is going to be interested so massive kids that up to see like i mean god out of coal do it again the triple threat match roddy straw velvety dri pete done like there's a lot of show steelers so i would like to see what takeover has to hap- outside see what several slab does but with that. I think that's the key she got anything else or i aw got oh happy birthday jalen uh-huh she four but she looked like she ate like out like she got thrown the officer tat. I don't know if she she brutal this. She will beat you up. She is funny because she's like a sour patch kid like she's really but then she's like she's inviting. I i know but i'm very very spark mark. What about favorite people <hes> one of my favorite pieces <hes> kind of always the what of all this. I will favorite kiichi like i'm the only kid like just take the win you. You want to tell justice she. She released as assistant. I might be yeah right. I saw this is so by postal ally with is is like out no he. Did you hear this but i was grilled favorite child. Ah about posted people for both sides would be like really right now down to you. I would to see who could challenge oh either side. No no no so. I just leave low i did a lot of people take gerardo favorites. Mommy still allowed the time like i don't have any favorites. Really we just sit here and do this yeah yeah. He didn't have any favorites log on her nose easily. We are told her crazy equally get man. It is jessica bark issue they'd be that's the pecking order now at the bottom. Wait a minute down. We'll be doing just this is it is that she didn't love me. I had i she adored. Who chelsea but i just. I don't know doesn't isn't <hes> no no no. I can't believe that now. I would be at the bottom. That'll be that you know. We're not doing it. I my this is a little different but not need this therapy session for anybody. This is just so freely conversation. Avocado world shots dan kitty they should be way back towards bird. You realize there's a massive twit convicted every year who who want to do. I told i told one of my coworkers <hes> she was. I was i get crazy. We would've never known had never win like heading never win. They'd be going through since it was what fifty not so they like having that went. We would've never known about this guy who decided they were gonna create a twenty. That's one convention like hey. We're going to get every twin group together injured. I really isn't that what we do. You know but you know mccreavy is out. I think there's like twins out there. Still don't bel and jetty was taking pictures of babies and you know little little boys. Little twin boys barrows older folks and all kinds of ages out here stuff stuff by making them because you know if the parents with the other kids like how did you find out about this twin conventis- just you know what i'm saying like who told y'all by geologists. Look a bowl on whereby hey hey what's chandy where but you know what i feel is a wonderful thing to separate you know and and <hes> twins out there. It's <hes> <hes> translation quadruplets in all the yeah theat there you know and it's not just identical fraternals and you know all of that if you want you could you imagine if one of us between now i think the lord figured out early dictate to be also in the tweet right. I feel like i i wanted to highlight it. I would like look don't think it'd be more. We will know you know. I think that now who to women. He probably would've crazy by you know i i. I don't think you know i always good to you know and being you know we can sit. There is downsized thought sausage is indeed and so now. I don't think it needs to the i think the woods good and does what you would just one what to market between gift. Oh my god. I love massively. I do yeah i would agree. I was looking at some. You know i block somebody to just now. It probably wouldn't necessary for me to block them because i don't know this lady i. I don't know anything about her because she's just saying something. I didn't like it arrested group that i felt like i just don't ever see her. I like that sound. He's got a glass. I'll hit the people who listened to the show that we like. Hey man i'd have you'll twitter. I don't even know like a._b. Mauri tweeted something that you said it. I was like you know what i don't need to buy. Life blocked blocker. It was her response to joke and i think it might be legitimate but it was kind of like this so those are joke basically say there's a mean joke with wesley snipes good and it's like you know this me. If i gotta kill ric flair door to race war was hold the trigger new jack city inquired. You got ta or whatever was like kind of like. I'll be conflicted. I don't know if i can do it wo- obvious jill so obvious joke and she was like this is bad and this could trigger so body the other night. I was like okay this go too far you block in. Hey y'all fucking joke this well. Well i mean i think you talked about me blocking the president. I don't really i'll have time uh-huh just not. I don't wanna see that right i on and one day and this was this is not recent by the way this who's this had happened a long time ago. You know when agent orange lose voting in. I was like <hes> now. I'm not even had had on my twitter. I'll need that kind of like. I blocked. I'll have time but i'm just not into it. I liked him and his whole right. I'm what is life now like. I don't even want to see on my on my two feet like i'm just not happy. I'm just not and you know. I do juicing yeah yeah because guess what it's will and i'm allowed that okay as long as there's no law saying i i can't. I ain't got time for that. Nigger like i'm not having it. I when you gotta block doc somebody you gotta you know. Sometimes you gotta shut it out. <hes> teach what while we're here <hes> did you are an enemy aficionado right. Is that fair. I'm getting there. I'm here to help you brother <music> out. What is it like odyssey. Something start off with <hes> you know it ain't gotta be in the mainstream move anime or nothing like that but just some doctor political net flicks and this would be a good beginner. You know style <hes> one punch way. Okay we'll be. I think i think you'll who likes that. One and <hes> i wanna say nado now <hes> but <hes> <hes> 'cause i know loppers anime was grazing ball right so we actually know limited my very first n._f._l. Will stay goals both but <hes> i didn't realize at the time that it was an amount of more sort of is enemy in that so i'll watch voltron voltron ama- why right some really got to with into <hes> well i learned. I didn't realize edible animate until i got older. <hes> and i learned really will enter those were and then <hes> drag law was the was the first that i watched completely like all the way through <hes> and right now working on arto arto. I've also watched one p. One punch man and i think this profile i might have <hes> i haven't heard anything and if i'm not mistaken if i have i forgot i'm forgetting in that's so but yes desks desks asked what i've started. I'll be but eventually branch out stuff. <hes> it end watch other yeah those those are the ones that i and i i could tell you like <hes> <hes> the thing about <hes> enemies just like i didn't realize is is even a lot of episodes. There's a lot of episodes you day. They go on and on and on so you have a lot to watch. You know what i'm saying. I want to know well. I know only episode questions and like <hes> other anonymity is a lot of it is not so so you have a lot to watch <hes> though watching who who wear that probably won't <hes> but it's good though good over the wines ed and i'm concerned rung for more recommendations <hes> laid along of course i deeply into this discernment thought i will throw out there. I need to figure out some in any to occupy. My town was something. I think that'd be fun so armee appreciate it. <hes> also facebook be sending random requests for like france. I mean you. This person should be free seventy three france combat. He not only be wondering how to heal. We got eighty friends to comment and i don't the hell you are. We know eighty-five with the same people and i ain't got no clue okay because i would. That's how it is on a because when i first joined at the high school right people yeah i knew from my graduating and like the class before the end of the class after stuff like that so like i see speaking warner and i'll be like me and i and i <hes> i see we have like maybe like hydrogen to people are common interests. This is person by my friend. If you didn't have people that you may know section and i'm like who is this person and i would think so many people the same people 'cause. I don't get it like you know twenty thirty that don't they don't really love you. When you go into the when you start you'd has give has fifty. It's like all right who you like and i found out that they went to school would be that would it's my i remember in college. When i got to college. I think it was the third second year year and i'm just bureau and she lives in talking to a mutual who friends find out choosing migrated <hes> high school. I said move k. so ago and that's like you know basically what it's like. But how do we know so many people and how that makes me by who this is what is it they know have your list. You have no clue who they are light. It happens. I'll add them 'cause i don't do you. No no you get a friend request. Somebody like me list unless you yup do right now. You know what i've been getting laid it. You spray requests from people where we don't have any brands and common whatsoever. We had one and it just don't mix it like. It's like arguing argued. Like what is this. Why are you asking me you know. I really don't understand as you s. I added a couple coworkers and stuff and that's understandable. I those you know but like these. He's come out of left field these folks. Who are you really. Did you come. Why are you kidding me. Oh oh you know how you like post you my answer a question or something and you might come comment on posted hosted group and the next thing you know. He's got like three friend requests. <hes> i dunno like we we cu. We dental yeah. We must break. No facebook leads you to calm down with all that. That's why my profiles clavell instagram 'cause. That's attacked. My father was and just how you end up with random news and you denounce. I ain't got no. I don't even want it all right with that. I think we are done. We'll be back thursday so y'all get this thing a little shorter time. We appreciate everybody listen. We are out.

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The Buddhist Scriptures

5 Minute Dharma

05:20 min | 1 year ago

The Buddhist Scriptures

"I'm Jay Forest and you're listening to five minute Dharma. Five Minute Dharma's a weekly podcast. Giving you practical Buddhist wisdom for everyday life episode three the Buddhist scriptures there are three major branches of Buddhism. They other Tara Vodka the Maha Yada Yada each their own. Cannon which is a word scholars used to refer to a set of texts that particular religious community regards authoritive. The word Canon comes from the Greek meaning rule our measuring stick so cannon is the scripture text the group uses to measure what is true to their particular religion as I said each major branch of Buddhism has its own Canon of scripture but only the Terada branch of Buddhism has any legitimate claim to be traceable to the historical Buddha. The teradata branch of Buddhism is the only existing branch of early Buddhism to survive. So it makes sense that their cannon transmits the original teachings of the Buddha though it has to be admitted that changes modifications and additions are likely to have happened. The Mahayana advisory cannons have numerous sutras. That were invented decades after the death of the historical Buddha. Although many of these claim to be the word of the Buddha the evidence is against such claims Maha Yada means greater vehicle and they were opposed to the Heaney Ana which is what they called the older older branch of Buddhism. Indiana means smaller vehicle. Mahayana arose around the beginning of the common era and became the dominant influence on the Buddhist cultures of Central and East Asia by the ninth century. The terrified of scriptures are called the Pali Canon because they are written in the language of poly poly is a middle Indo Aryan liturgical language native to the Indian subcontinent is a sacred language of Terada Buddhism. The majority of the Pali Canon was composed. Shortly after the Buddha's death. The Pali Canon is also known as the tip Ataka meaning three baskets the three baskets or parts of teachings are as follows. The first basket is called the Vinai Pataki or the basket of discipline. This is the collection of five volumes. That deal with the rules and regulations of monastic life. They cover everything from dress code to dietary rules. Although I do not generally apply to lay life. They do contained gems of wisdom and stories about the Buddha. The second basket is called the Suda Pataca or the basket of discourses. This is a collection of five groups of texts called the Nicolaas the first the Digital Kaya which is a collection of the long discourses of the Buddha. The second is the Muslim on. Kaya which is a collection of the middle length discourses of the Buddha. The third is the Semiatin Kaya which is a collection of the connected discourses of the Buddha. The force is on Goodra. Kaya is a collection of the numeral discourses of the Buddha and the fifth is the could occur in which is actually a collection of books known as the minor collection the Dhammapada the most popular of the Scriptures is part of this collection and the third basket is called the Optima the Taco or the basket of higher teaching. This was composed by the monastic community. After the Buddha's death this collection is highly technical and is not very useful to the average reader is a collection that requires commentaries and experts to understand since most people in the West are only familiar with the Christian scriptures and might be helpful to clarify if you things about the Buddhist scriptures first of all the Buddhist scriptures are not inspired by God they do not claim to be the word of God. The Buddhist scriptures are the word of a man and awakened manned the Buddha second the Buddhist scriptures are not without air or inherit the Buddhist scriptures are believed to be an accurate transmission of the Buddhist teaching not infallible and finally the Buddhist scriptures are not the highest authority. The Buddha encouraged people to think for themselves and to test is teaching by putting them into practice and judging its truthfulness inclusion the oldest Buddhist scriptures is the Pali Canon of the Terada Branch of Buddhism is the poly cat that will guide our further explorations of the Buddhist teaching. That concludes by talk. Thank you for your attention. You've been listening to five minute. Dharma five minute arms. A weekly podcast. Give new practical Buddhist wisdom forever deal life. You can subscribe to the podcast at five minute. Dharma Dot com the next time. May the Buddhist wisdom enlighten your path.

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#031: Interior Design 101  how to design a room from start to finish

MAKE SPACE — A Home Design Show by Never Skip Brunch

54:26 min | 1 year ago

#031: Interior Design 101 how to design a room from start to finish

"Just want to go home shopping home. Just WanNa go on and I'm Mama Way back. Welcome to make space. A home design show made to inspire you to create spaces truly feel at home in care. Newhart sits down with amazingly brilliant guests for conversations that dive deeper than Pin were-they rooms to tease out the essentials of creating spaces that feed your soul and inspire your creativity from home design strategies to decor advice to interior design tips and tricks. These conversations. Help you dream up. A beautifully lived in home. Care is designer and Chief. Creative enthusiasts behind never skip brunch. Her work has been featured in print publications like people style. Watch and Denver sow magazine as an influence. Cara has collaborated with brands like Amazon H. M. Twitter and thrillers. Here's your host Kara Newhart. Hello I am so excited to be back after a week off and just to catch you up to speed this past week. I've been working on my project. That's collaboration with the Home Depot. Where I'm creating my dream studio space so this past week finishing the studio up for the reveal and so I just needed to take a week off the podcast to kind of focus on that and make sure I got all of the details done so I so appreciate you guys letting me do that excited to say that. The reveal is happening to night. If you're listening to this on Wednesday the day it comes out. It's happening tonight on instagram. So I'm posting one photo of the space and then I have the blog post coming up within the next week in terms of all the details of this face but you will see the finished face tonight when I was thinking about what you guys might need to hear from me. This week. What came to mind was my process for designing a space and I realized that I haven't really talked about this like beginning to end. I've given you guys clips here and there of tips for designing obviously and then we've dove into some more specific topics like lighting design. We talked about colors and building color palettes but in terms of how to start to finish designer room. We really haven't covered that yet and low key have plans to make this into a full-blown course at some point. But until then I just wanted to do an episode and give you guys insight into my design process and the reason that I'm so excited to talk about. This is because it works for literally any space whether you are starting with a blank room and fully furnishing it designing it start to finish or whether you have like an existing space that just needs freshened up or kind of needs reworked. Either because it's not functioning well or because it doesn't feel cohesive. This same process works for all of that. You don't have to have a huge budget or a lot of money to use this strategy. So let's just go through this today and then if you guys have questions you can feel free to reach out because when I talk about different. Bits and pieces of this either on instagram stories or with people in real life. There's a lot of questions because a lot of what I'm going to talk about totally depends on your space. And so sometimes you need a little bit of extra guidance and a little bit of extra INFO on how to apply this process. So if you have questions you can call the podcast hotline at seven two zero three one nine seven four three eight. Just leave a voice mail with your questions and be sure to include your name and any way you want me to get in touch with you. So whether that's instagram or email or any of that or you can also send me an email at podcast at never skip brunch dot com. I would love to help you out so I can sure that this isn't just something you're going to take notes on or make some mental notes but something. You're actually going to be able to use in your spaces. Okay let's dive into our HASHTAG obsessed and wait. Wait for this week and then we will talk about the design process beginning to end hashtag obsessed. So what I am. Obsessed with this week is. Diy framed canvas art. If you follow along on instagram you already know at this because I showed you the exact step by step but basically I took some regular campuses from the craft store. I think they're like sixteen by twenty four and they came in a five pack which was like ten bucks basically just painted. Some geometric abstract art. I'm by no means like a trained artist but I just use some leftover paint samples. I had in my color Palette and just kind of did some different shapes in lines. It was actually really easy. Because there's obviously no right way to do arts you just kind of paint what you feel and then paint over it if it doesn't work out and then while. I let those dry I built frames out of some one inch by two inch boards and a win over the entire process in my story is about how to build frames like how to measure when you're measuring out for custom frame. How do you cut the wood and how to do that? If you don't have a power tool that can do it for you. There's this thing called miter box. Show you how to use that. But basically built a frame around the canvas out of wood and then it just kind of up level to and made the whole thing look like kind of a professional piece of art that I bought. It was framed but really really inexpensive. There were only like eight dollars per canvas and then I did a little gallery wall with four of them so it's a great Philo Wall if you have some areas in your house that just needs something and you can't really decide what put their or you don't want to spend a lot of money Or it's just great to add to it. If you have kiddos too you could get them involved painting and then kind of frame their little canvases to up level that so yeah. I can totally be a family project but I like the way they look. They look very sophisticated very chic but still playful and very cheap so I will put a picture in the show notes in that I will link to that. Highlight if you're really into it and you want the full tutorial you can check that out as well wait. What okay so my wait? What for this week is that I wallpapered my fridge. Yes it looks amazing. Amazing so had seen some ideas floating around pinterest of using peel and stick wallpaper to put over the front of your fridge to kind of add a pattern or color or make it interesting and we're talking about like a plain regular boring white fridge here So a lot of people have those just in their house or whether that's an apartment ours was actually a garage fridge. We just bought like the cheapest most basic fridge to put in our garage to have a little bit of extra space and I ended up picking out some wallpaper that was paced paper. Not Peel and stick. I had never used paste paper before I was really nervous. Actually to try it because I hadn't even tried it on walls much less leg trying to wallpaper a three d object and then. I didn't know if it would stick to the fridge like if needed the wall to somehow steak but it worked super super. Well I will put a picture in the show notes because you have to go look. It's like this black and white floral pattern and the next spray painted. The fridge handles gold and it looks so so good. I'm like really surprised about how good it turned out. And what I learned through this. Is that paste? Wallpaper is actually way easier to hang. I don't know what about it. I was so nervous about. Maybe it's because growing up. My grandma used to come over and help my mom do it. And it just looked like a super involved process and there was tons of measuring really. I'm just like any project that involves a lot of measuring. I kind of like avoid if I have to measure things too much. It's just not how my brain works. I WanNa like free style things so anyway I had it in my head this paste. Paper was going to be so hard to us but it was not literally. I think it's easier than peel and stick. Because the Gooby pasty glue lets you slide around so if you stick it up there and it's not in the right spot you can just kind of slide it up and get it into the right place. Where Peel and stick? Like when I use that and I get it in the wrong place you have to constantly unstick and re stick and then it gets less sticky or it gets bubbles in it So I really enjoyed my first go with paste paper and if you've never used it before the kind I used was actually from Magnolia home joint gains in it had like glue on the paper so basically roll it out you cut it to size and then you just spray water across the back in it activates the glue and then you fold it over on itself which I thought was kind of weird but I watched I watched a lot of youtube videos and one guy called his wall a sexy beast of an accent wall when he was done so. I'm pretty sure I learned from the professionals about how to wallpaper. But anyway you fold it over on itself because it kind of helps like spread out the little water droplets from the mist and helps more evenly. Get the water on there and get the glue activated. Plus it's folded into a smaller size sony of to carry it across the room. You're not fighting this long string of sticky paper so then you bring it over and address. Put It on your fridge and then ages folded the corners so at the corner. Where the point is you. Just kind of cut a diagonal line and then you fold one side over and then the other so I just kind of raft it. I guess sort of like a present but defense wrap your presents but anyway you just kind of folded over the edge kind of crease. It a little bit and then it's staying really well. It looks really good. My seems look pretty good pretty proud of myself but I was really excited because I shared it on instagram in so many of you were really pumped up about this idea because you have an old fridge that you feel like is just not the vibe you want for your kitchen appliances or expensive to replace so while you can you know. Paint a wall or add new throw pillows by new like accessories. Appliances might not be an option for you to replace so. I was very excited about this project. Because I feel like it gives a lot of you an option to add personality and Change up your space in really inexpensive way. Okay now for the reason. You're probably all here which is to talk about how to design a space start to finish an exact process that you can use in any room in your house. So let's dive in and I wanNA talk about kind of the mistake that most people make so the first place people usually start when it comes to decorating. Their house is with the question. How do I want this space to look and this is so so totally the wrong place to start? I mean people think decorating home decor they think. Okay it's visual. Needs to look a certain way. Be In a certain style. So let's start first by thinking about how we wanted to look and this leads you to questions like what is my style. How do I define my style? What's my aesthetic. And so you end up starting by answering all these questions about how you want things to look in a lot of times. I find that this is a really tough place to start. Because people are racking their brain because they're struggling to find a style that feels like them either because they kind of like bits and pieces of a lot of styles or they feel like they have a lot of existing pieces that don't fit into a clear style and they can't necessarily get rid of them so like how do we incorporate that like if I define my style doesn't mean I have to change my entire house now so this is the wrong place to start because by starting here by doing this asking what we wanted to look like. You're skipping like ten steps ahead and also starting out by asking. How do I want the room to look? You're literally setting yourself up for a room that you're not going to love and here's why because when we're talking about how we want things to look you're not designing for how you're going to actually use the space how the space is going to support your life in the vibe that you want this face to have in the feeling that this room is going to give you your designing for basically a space. That's going to photograph well. Essentially it's GONNA look good. It might do amazing on Pinterest. It might be a cool instagram post. But it's not a space that truly serves you and I've really learned this through shooting spaces through actually taking photos of spaces because when you design a room and the room functions. Well it's exactly how it's supposed to be when you go to take a picture of it a lot of the stuff. You actually have to rearrange when you're taking the pictures and you might not know this but good. Photographers of interiors. Often have to rearrange a lot of the room. Even after like a decorator has come in and decorated it. You have to move different things to different places for the photos for example if you have a lamp that is over your chair. And it's in the perfect position for when you're reading. That might not look good in a photo. It might not be the right angle in. Might look kind of weird. It might be blocking something else like a piece of art in the background. So when you take a picture you have to move the lamp. So this is helpful in terms of real life in real life spaces. 'cause it's helpful to keep in mind first of all when you're looking at Info photos you're just looking at beautiful spaces we're not copying and pasting that into our space. Were drawing inspiration from it. So if you're looking at professional photos realize that that is just kind of a an example. It's not really like what we're going to do in your space. And that's where I feel a lot of people go wrong. Say Start with looking up things on pinterest or instagram. And then they're like okay. I'm going do this in my space. And there's nothing wrong with that like getting info at all but the reality is you can't start there because that's not going to create the room that you love okay. So if we're not gonNA start with asking what's my style or how do. I want it to look than where do we start so question number? One that you're GONNA to ask yourself no matter the room. No matter what is to always ask what am I going to be doing in the space. I want you to sit down and I list out literally a list of the activities so if this is a bedroom activities might include sleeping getting dressed. Maybe putting makeup on If you do that in your bedroom watching. Tv NOT WATCHING TV and reading a book instead. List out the activities that happened in this room and that is going to be the foundation and the reference point of every single design decision. You make because at the end of the day the space needs to serve you and it needs to be something like every little piece of it needs to be something. That's supporting how you are living in the space. So obviously some of those things are going to be beautiful and two core elements are going to come in to help create a vibe in create a feeling that's going to support your lifestyle but the starting point is what am I doing in this space. Okay once you've answered that question. The next thing we're going to do is hop to measuring floor plans space planning so. I actually have plans to go way more in depth on floor plan creation in a future episode. So he won't lake talk about that too much just because there's so much to it but I just want to give you the general overview today so when we're measuring a space I want you to. You can get a piece of graph. Paper can a piece of regular paper does not have to be like a serious technical drawing but it does help if you dry it somewhat to scale And Trust me. I am not like a math person. I'm not like a numbers lover so I don't necessarily love this part but it really does help you visualize and this can be an existing space to like. It's not just a blink room. It's any space you have to get out your graph paper and you're going to start by measuring each wall and a really good rule of thumb on graph paper. I like to use if you have a small room. This usually works is to use one little box as six inches so too little boxes are one foot long and that just helps because it gives you a really really good picture. But kind of zoomed in so everything isn't so so tiny so I would just measure start with one wall corner to Corner Terada out on your paper to scale. If your room is five feet long. I guess that would be like a closet. Is like five feet long. You're going to draw a line across ten boxes and then measure. I don't know I just said that. Like from the Mid West Access. Okay ten boxes and then you're going to go to the corner and then obviously take a turn. Draw the next thing. So we're literally drawing out our floor plan. We're trying to to scale because it's going to help us really visualize things and then you WanNa make note of all the doors so when you get to a door and enough. You've ever seen an architectural plan. Maybe I could draw a little sketch for you in the blog. Post that way helpful but when you get to adore you leave a gap and you can like trough the little door symbol I'll do a little guide with some symbols. You can rock sal be helpful And you measure that door frame and then you keep going until you have a full outline of your room okay. Then the next step is not to put in furniture yet. Actually we're GONNA think about traffic patterns so when you're walking around a room in where you walk in the room that's traffic pattern so if there's a doorway obviously people are going to be walking there and you cannot Furniture in front of the door. You Actually WanNa draw like a little box on your floor plan Of where the doors are and where people are going to need to walk and this is going to be like a visual block where furniture cannot go so for example if you have a door and a standard door is thirty six inches three feet long than in front of the door. You're going to have a three foot by three foot block where you do not put anything so right in front of the door. Nothing goes there and I like shoes colors for this. Like I usually use a yellow highlighter when I'm doing traffic patterns because I don't want it to be like black in all over my floor plan. A regular designer often. Doesn't even draw them on their floor plan but I think it's a really good visual to help you see where things cannot go so draw that in and then I also liked to just draw little lines of if there's two doors close to each other and you're GonNa be walking between them. Think of how. You're going to need a like a little pathway to go there and like maybe if you put a piece of furniture there it's going to be in the way and be awkward so once you have your traffic plan traffic flow then you can start thinking about furniture This episode is sponsored by make space premium. Yes we finally have premium content available only to subscribers or you can get exclusives lake bonus episodes with me extended episodes with guests and access to members only guides e books and checklist to help. You implement tips. From some of the episodes. There are currently three membership levels. 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Then you can start thinking about furniture so there's a lot a lot that goes into space planning and furniture. But my way to advise you to do it is to take that list of activities and we are now going to sit down and list out some of the furniture that you're going to need for that like obviously you're sleeping. You need a bed unless you can just sleep anywhere if you are going to be playing games as a family. Maybe there needs to be a table and chairs. And how many years do we need Maybe if there's going to be reading you're going to need a reading chair so you just list out furniture pieces that you need for the space based on your list of activities so before we even get to picking furniture picking five measuring. Were literally planning out how we're going to use the space and looking at the size of the space to try to figure out what's the best way to use it so then the next phase is obviously to take that furniture in kind of try to fit it into the space so my best strategy for this is to start with things. You'RE GONNA do most often in the room and start without furniture. I in look at where that furniture goes in the space in terms of. Is there an obvious clear place for it to go? For example like breakfast nook is going to be your breakfast nook like chairs go there and the table and so is there a clear place? I go like maybe your only has one wall. That doesn't have windows. So maybe obviously the bed goes there. And then you work your way down to activities that you do the least so if there is something like for example in our dining room we only use that like once or twice a year to host people so I'm actually knocking to put a table in there as the main focus. 'cause we just don't use it. I'm looking for something. I literally found a table. That is a small tiny like console table. That then folds out into this magic like ten person table. I guess that's another random tip is to think about like dual function of things. So if it's something you're not using often how can you have it? Be something that folds away something. That's dual-purpose something. That's not going to be taking up space in the room that you don't use so going through this and see how we have not picked out any colors. We have not talked about anything about style yet. We are literally starting with how many using the room. What types of pieces of furniture do I need to use the room in this way and do activities in the room and then once you have that you can start picking out sizes of furniture and then obviously you can't like go make purchases yet because we have to talk about kind of the more design side of things like colors and textures in styles and all of that so the next question that I want you to ask yourself is how do I want this space to feel whether that's calming and relaxing whether it's upbeat energetic? Dynamic whether it is warm and welcoming whether it's cozy and cool whatever. It is just list out a few adjectives or even just kind of like sentences about how you want people to feel when they're in the space. If you're a journalist this would be a good time to journal. I don't do that as often as it used to. But just really think about the vibe in the space what is the feeling that you want to convey okay so once we have a really clear picture of that now we can step into some of the design decisions so if you want the space to feel calming and relaxed. We've already ruled out a lot of things that are not for you. We have ruled out. Probably like bright red and orange less. That has a comb effect on you. We may have ruled out crazy patterns or stiff looking chairs or just all the things that are not what you want to create vibe wise are things. You're just going to say no to right off the bat when you're looking at Info images anything that pops up where you're like. Oh I like the way that looks. I should do that in my house. I should do that my space. Go back to this list of how you want the space to feel and make sure that it is in alignment with how you want things to feel if it looks super awesome but doesn't give you that feeling that you're going for in the room it gives you a different feeling like maybe excited or boulder interesting versus cozy and calm then. It's a no so now that we know how we WANNA feel. We can start making some design decisions so my next step for you is to create a Pinterest Board and Start Painting in Spo- images now I don't want you to pin literally like I want to put e- accent wall behind my bed so I'm going google accent walls behind my bed and do a whole list of those. We're GONNA do that later. But right now we are painting images that have the vibe that we want to feel so for me and my house just to give you an example. My vibe is like playful chic I want to be a lot of interesting elements that kind of make people think or make people say. Wow that's interesting or but also feel welcome not so it's so busy or really cold like an art gallery. I wanted to feel playful and interesting but also cozy and a little bit sophisticated in Sheikh. So those are like my words for my vibe in how the images that I find myself normally pinning to my vibe board and I might have shared this before but it's a lot of like coffee. Shops that have kind of mixed elements select an exposed brick wall in greenery over the walls but then very sophisticated. Sleek things like metal pieces or really. Ornate light fixtures So it's a weird mix but the pictures that speak most of my vibe our like these coffee shops these like industrial warehouses spaces but not like so industrial where it's like industrial the style where you would take a cut style quiz and it would be like you need exposed pipe in brick and woods and it's a little bit different than that a little bit more light and Airy I'm finding this really hard to explain to you because I feel like I know my style so well and in using these vibe boards. You're just collecting all these images that come together to create a vibe. But it's kind of hard to convey that without using like a ton of adjectives in writing almost like a full essay. But what I want you to do. Basically create your pinterest board. That's your vibe board and just start pinning different spaces to it so don't stick to exactly like what you want in the space in terms of like that chair. I like that wall color like Gopher vibe here so that means if you're designing a bathroom you might be pinning bedrooms because they have the vibe e want they have maybe like a tropical retreat feel with tropical leaves and lots of Blues and whatever it is so do your board and then the next step is we're going to build out your style so we are not GonNa take style quiz in be told what your style is. We are literally going to build your style from the ground up so the next step is to take your board and you're going to scroll through it and you're going to look for patterns so patterns throughout all the images that you have pinned so for me. That's greenery on the walls. That's a lot of vintage touches. A lot of interesting elements like hardware. That's oversized or shelves. That are Have like an interesting texture or even really unexpected pops of color for you. It might be you see a lot of skinny lap. A lot of wood paneled walls emerging maybe there's a ton of green that is just kind of coming through that you're liking maybe it's very neutral very light. Pastel colours no deep bright colors. Maybe it's a ton of wood grain a ton of like vintage furniture. Whatever it is I want you to write down three to five patterns that you're seeing in your vibe board that most of the images contain so this is think of like repeating elements that repeat throughout the photos in different elements. You feel like you're being drawn to based on what you're pinning. I'm not one that would say like take a style quiz and figure out your final like that to me. Is Uninteresting because I feel like style is so much more dynamic and while there are certain styles and clearly drawn to and I do believe style plays an important role in helping. A room feel cohesive. Kaz Styles have been developed for reason. They each of them have like certain mood. They convey a certain vibe in a certain feeling. So that's helpful and if you're drawn to a specific style and you know it's for you run with that but if you are someone that is really struggling to find your style and you feel overwhelmed. I can I don't know what I like and I don't want to be locked into one certain thing where like rules of unique This like don't worry about it. Just try to think of cohesive elements versus like defined style so an example of cohesive elements is like in my house. I have a lot of black accents like our stale rail is black our doors black and I really like how those look. I don't WanNa change them so part of like making my house look cohesive is GonNa be to add more black accents around house so I've done that by changing my kitchen hardware to black adding like a black old timey looking clock in the kitchen which is really interesting. Don't think of like define styles in terms of those words that you hear like modern traditional Arm House. Boho all of that think of like elements that are gonNA be repeating in the space to help. It look cohesive so maybe that's a certain color of would maybe we're going with really light would tones or maybe a lot of white or maybe a lot of dark wood tones. Whatever it is I want you to just kind of write down some of the repeating elements that you want. Maybe it's a ton of tassels. Maybe it is cheap paint or vintage distress furniture. Whatever it is just right down. Some design elements that you want to be central to the design of your space. Okay so then. The next step is to take these repeating patterns that you discovered through your board and those design elements that you're really really drawn to and create a mood board mood boards. You guys are so important. It's really surprising to me how many people don't really use them as a tool. I just thought everyone did and I think it's because I'm so visual that half the time I can't even think unless I'm seeing it like if someone tells me something it's in one side out the other but if I see it or read it it really sticks so being a visual person like mood. Boards have always been my go-to but if you're new this. I think it's a really good exercise. Because you're going to quickly realize how much easier it makes it to visualize your final space when you use a mood board. So my very favorite thing to do is use canvas dot com. They have a free version. They have a ton of little templates. And I just make like a regular letter size template and I start by pulling in all of these different design elements and patterns that I've found repeating elements and put them on the first page of my mood board. So that's like maybe some black hardware. Some plants on walls like some of the different things. I've discovered this kind of my in Spo- vibe piece of my mood board. So whenever I'm thinking of a design decision down the road I can kind of look back and see if it fits within these elements and then you kind of know That you're building a cohesive room because things are looking good together and I know that some of a struggle with this like going to home goods and like Oh that's cute that's cute and like buying all this stuff and then you get home and it's like okay. This room has no big picture vision. It doesn't look. I bought a lot of things that are cute but they don't work together so a mood board is the way you make sure they do work together. So I start with my vibe piece of my mood board and then we moved to building a color Palette so for me building color Palette usually comes from an Info Pius whether that is a rug or e RENA piece of fabric. I found that I love the colors in so a lot of times actually like doing a little bit of shopping before. I build my color Palette but usually I have like a general idea of what I want to look like so I pick three colors that I'm loving for the room based on things that are going to work with my like design elements and how I want them to feel. So if I'm going for a calming vibe I'm GonNa pick blues muted tones. Maybe even white and I'm putting those three starter colors like start a new page. This is going to be your color Palette. I put my three starter colors. And these aren't the exact shades going to go to the paint store and pick out there just shades guide me as I make decisions in kind of go back to so then. My next step is to pull out that like furniture list of all the list of things that are going to help us do the activities that we wanna do in the room and then we're going to start shopping for those furniture pieces so start with the activities that you do the most. That's what I would say is your investment pieces. The stuff you're using the most often is your investment piece because it needs to be nice. It's something you use all the time. And then the stuff you're using less often as you're not investment pieces that's kind of my strategy for deciding that so. This is just of start shopping around. I'm really looking for my info peace at this point like what? I should base my color. Palette off so when I'm shopping and paying attention to like is there a rug that I really love the color Palette of and the vibe of and I can kind of build everything else in the room off that rug or is there a chair that I just have to have and then maybe I could go find a piece of fabric? That has a pattern with that color in it as well as other colors. So we're just kind of loose shopping like in in just kind of browsing. If there's something you fall in love with that you really really want and you're like this yellow couch needs to happen. Then I would add that to create a new page of your mood. Board at two were now doing like furniture and furnishings. So add that to that page and kind of think of everything else like how you could build around that piece so this is where answering those two foundational questions is super helpful. Asking what am I gonNa do in this space? And how do I want this space to feel because oftentimes I think when people are shopping for furniture they're looking for You know a certain color. Or they're like Oh. I wanted to have like mid Maude legs or like. There's not a lot of clarity on like what the peace overall needs to be like. There's just like I feel like people picking out certain elements of like only want the cushions to be this way or I saw this on pinterest and I want to be this way but like when we go back to those two questions of what am I going to do in the space. Had I want the space to feel every piece of furniture you look at is now a very clear? Yes or no like everything is like okay. That doesn't fit the function because that couches tiny and can fit three people so we can weed that out because we need a giant couch. The V six or that color is not really the vibe because it clashes with those colors I picked out earlier so this is kind of where my process gets tricky to explain to you because I don't pick a color Palette and then pick furniture to match and I don't pick furniture and then kind of like try to fit into a color Palette. I'm building both simultaneously so and it really depends on the. It really depends what I find in some spaces. It's been I find a rug and this is my rug. It's for sure what I want and I'm building the Color Palette around other times I find like shade and unlike it needs to be this color and so I'm just GonNa have to match things to this color. You can really either direction. I would say if you're just starting out and info piece is the easier way to go because a professional designer has put that piece together like they've chosen the colors in the rug or in the fabric or whatever and they know that they're complementary so basing your decisions off that is GonNa give you. It's going to help you make have to make less decisions. You're not GONNA be like. Oh my gosh. Is this color work with this color? Like it does cause a professional designers that design the peace. Put them together so if you have that piece type things together going to look great. Okay so new spaces as we're building them from the ground up we're finding that inspe- kind of developing the color Palette and everything. We make a decision about checking against our function is what we need to use the space and our vibe does it fit with the feeling we want to convey and is it look cohesive with those design elements like if we picked light would maybe that super dark cherry wood dresser is not going to be what we want so just keep checking in with those two things as you pick pieces out if you were redoing a space. You're going to use the same process but then when you get to this part obviously you're not going to be able to be buying all new things. If you're on a tighter budget so reworking the stuff you already have is a little bit more challenging but also you were in love with the pieces that you have at some point so first of all. Can we find that feeling again of like when you first bought it and you loved it or can we rework the pieces to fit your New Vision? If it's something that you're just sick of and you were really into like traditional style and now you're just bored of it and it's Ben ten years or however long and you just. You can't afford a new couch but you don't like the one you have like. How can we rework the pieces or repurpose them? So maybe that means pulling pieces from other rooms rearranging things. Maybe it means Reworking the pieces. You have in terms of like getting a sofa cover for the couch painting a piece of furniture different color so checking back in with your function list of activities in your vibe list of wanted to feel how can we make the existing pieces you have fit into that New Vision okay. So we've just kinda been loose shopping for furniture trying to pick pieces and build that Color Palette. Now if there's a piece that is your Go-to like you fell in love with it or it is the in spoke piece. That's the basis of your color pilot and you are so sure about it. Then I would say you could probably move forward with that piece but in terms of like furnishing your whole room We have a little bit of more work to do before we start like thinking about that. So if you're not in love with stuff I would not make furniture purchases at this point because we have to decide next now that we have our color. Palette established is kind of what we want going on on the walls of the room to we want accent walls. Do we wanna paint things colors so now that you have your color? Palette you can go back to your board or this is when you can start really looking at specific in Spo- for room so this is when you say okay accent while behind bed made of wood and you start. Googling specific things in really professional designers would probably do the opposite. They would not have looked at furniture until they decided. How the RIMS GONNA look? Because it's like if it's a traditional room with certain architectural details like you. Want your furniture to be cohesive with that and whatnot but I think when you're just starting out if you put a picture and you do that Lou shopping. You put pictures in your mind of furniture or you buy a piece that you're in love with it's going to help you make decisions about the room because the room is really the backdrop until you know what's going in front of it can be really hard to visualize the space. So that's why I say to do that. Lou Shopping and Color Palette decision first and then moved to this phase of deciding what's happening on the walls do all that pinning of like specific things you like and I mean get really granular of like if we're doing an accent wall with skinny one by two boards which is really trendy right now. It's called skinny lap. Like we're pinning pictures of that with a wide gap that with the skinny gap. Were pinning pictures of say. WanNa blue accent wall a deep teal blue. Or is it more? Greenish or like your pinning all these really specific things that you have kind of started to know you want in the room and you're painting variations of them so you can kind of compare and contrast like what if. I do a lighter shade. What if I do a darker shade? And so this is where we're starting to make actual design decisions but we're doing it for the room so she we paint the trim black she paint walls. And if you're doing kitchens or bathrooms this is like tile and faucets and all the lake hardware that's going into that so basically. I feel like people get overwhelmed with the design because they feel like oh my gosh. It's like a hundred thousand decisions to make but once you outline the function of your space once you talk about the vibe of your space and you have those design elements that you feel really encompassed that then. Every single design decision is easier and easier because like you look at something and you're like does this fit what I've done before the groundwork that I've laid so every decision is building on each other and you're literally building out a room and building out your style. You're not just making a hundred different one off choices of yes. No yes no like. We're building it up and everything as you add to your mood board and you add three items and you're like not that one not that one. This one works than the next decision has to be cohesive with the thing that you've already chosen so that's why I say mood. Boarding is so important because you are literally building and adding to it and then when things are at a place you're going to be able to see it you're going to see like oh all of this stuff works together but this little guy is kind of looking weird. So maybe we should swap him out whether that's a nightstand or a couch or a candle holder okay. So we've made the big decisions in the room. The Wall treatments the wall colours Ford baton hardware tile all of that now we can circle back tour furniture and we have a really strong vision for the room now because we know exactly what we're doing the space we know exactly what the Color Palette is exactly. What the walls are going to be like so now and we probably have some pieces in mind because we did that pre shop that pre look so now he can pull the trigger on buying some of that furniture some of the furnishings art different accessories rugs all of that good stuff so I am the tip here for if you're reworking in room. Is that after you decide the wall treatments and all of that stuff. You're going to know how to rework your existing furniture so like if you decide to do a certain color on the wall or you're gonNA be like okay. I did this deep blue color. So that means my couch should be this creamy beige color. So I'M GONNA buy that slip cover or okay. Well I doing. This would accent wall in the dresser that needs to go here is would so I need to paint wight? That's how you kind of know how to Rework Your Staff. And then you also know what you need to buy so there that's going to buy thrifty pieces or facebook marketplace feces like. It doesn't have to be all new furniture at all. So you're reworking you're buying new on the cheap and so then your vision is kind of coming to life. Your Room is kind of coming together. in this. GonNa save you so much because once you have this mood board built then shopping is GonNa be so easy like no longer. Are you going to go to homegoods? Be like that's cute by that. You're going to be like okay. This clearly fits on my mood boards. So it's a definite. Yes for this room. I've needed this for this area. Yes or like absolutely not. This does not fit my house my vibe that I've created so that's what's really encouraging is it's going to help you make better design decisions not only for the room as you build it but also down the road. The other thing I want to mention is that you don't have to do this all in one time like it's not like HDTV where we have like a week and we need to like flip the rim over and Redo the whole thing like you're starting this process and you're going to go back and you're going to be constantly revising it so whether that's because you're in a new season of life in the way that you're using the space has changed so you need to revisit that and then kind of see what falls in line in terms of like furniture that might need to go or any of that or your style kind of changes. You need to revisit your vibe or you just don't have the money to put your whole vision into place right now so maybe over the course of two years. You're going to be redoing your kitchen so it's a really slow process of okay. We'll do all the cabinets encounters this year and then I'm GONNA slowly change out this and I'm going to add a table later and so once you've created this mood board. You have a cohesive plan for each room that you can go to to add things to make changes as your life changes and to update as you feel like your style is evolving in. You're getting a clear sense of who you are or what you like. So that's really exciting. I want to encourage you guys to think of this as kind of like spectrum or like a circle instead of like a process from start to end because we're not really begin and we're done like things things are GonNa Change. You're going to have to revisit things you're going to have to rework things constantly whether that's because you're growing as a person or your lifestyle is changing so we're on a spectrum of like my room serves me and it reflects my personality and it supports me and I'm in love with it to the other end of the spectrum of like it's not working it doesn't reflect me. I'm unhappy with it. It doesn't support me so like yes in some sense after you really go through this the first time in create your mood board. It's going to be easier and easier to make changes because you have a clear vision and it is a lot more work to like. Set this up the first time when you're first tackling a space but once you have gone through that process once you're done so you're constantly revisiting re-addressing reworking rethinking and that's exciting. And really the way you get a home you love so I just wanted to take a second and talk to you if maybe you're in a season of life where things are really busy. Maybe you are working fulltime with crazy hours or maybe. You are a fulltime mom and worked fulltime or stay at home. Whatever it is but you don't feel like you have time to carve out to work on your house. Maybe who feel like you're drowning in mess and you can barely keep things picked up much less. Try to rework room. Trust me. I totally get that. I totally get how you could listen to this and feel overwhelmed or feel left out like well. Yeah that's cool but like it wouldn't work for me But I just want to encourage you number one. You have to make space for this process in your life because like we talked about before. It's not about having a gorgeous room you guys. It's about having a room that functions well for your family having a space that supports your family. Your lifestyle And creates a vibe. That kind of conveys the feeling you WanNa feel and I think especially for if you're stressed out like it's even more a reason to make this a priority and focus on it and it doesn't have to be hours at a time like maybe you just come home and while you're watching your shows you can kind of do pinterest into your mood board or maybe laying in bed if you on your phone like me which is probably a bad habit but just do the work like incrementally and don't be overwhelmed like take one space at a time but carve out a little bit of time each day to focus on it like ten minutes fifteen minutes thirty minutes whatever you have. Maybe it's in the morning when you're drinking your coffee if you somehow have a peaceful moment before your children wakeup if so please tell me how because My three year old smile arm clock anyway. Just want to encourage you. That making space for this process in your life is going to make your home better. It's GonNa make your life better and it's not just about making your home pretty and I hear you that if if you're super busy you don't have time to make your home pretty okay. You don't have time to live in your house and feed your children. Get your work done but this is not just about that so I just encourage you to make space make time for this and just a little bit of time. Guys goes a long way because the other thing is like it becomes fun it becomes like kind of a hobby in kind of a challenge in kind of a way. You can give back to your family where you can do some self care and give back to yourself by creating home that works for you so just a little bit of encouragement if you're busy and you're feeling overwhelmed. You can still do it. It just off an overnight process in any situation because we're revisiting changing it and revising things as our life changes so a hope that gave you some encouragement. If you have any questions or any part of this process that you felt confused or like I don't know like I know what you're saying but I don't know how to do that in my space. I would love to help you You can shoot me an email podcasts. And never skip BRUNCH DOT COM or. Call the podcast hotline and leave me. Voice Mail again. The number is seven two three one nine seven four. Three eight love to hear from you. I would love to help you. Go through this design process. I hope this was helpful and I will talk to you guys again next week. If you're not following me on social media you should be. Because that's where all the fun happens between episodes. You can find me. Keira end my blog at never skip brunch and then if you want to connect with the podcast to get new episode notifications and podcasts specific news in your feet. You can find the podcast at me. 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Viajar con un adolescente

Podcast RadioViajera

39:58 min | 2 months ago

Viajar con un adolescente

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How Does Stress Affect Health & Performance ?

Live Your Own Fit Podcast

21:49 min | 3 months ago

How Does Stress Affect Health & Performance ?

"Hello and welcome to another episode of live broadcast on your host today. Jacobs and today. I'm going to talk about but take again a little bit of a follow up to what i was talking about a couple of episodes ago but this one is much more around some practical implications and implementations that you can use and visualize to help wrap your head around why some days you can't perform as well as you would lock to a. Why feel todd on a certain day. Why sleep is so important. And how all of this links together. So i'm gonna keep it pretty short. And i wish. I could show you like a and kind of some visualizations of what. I'm trying to explain throughout this podcast. But i'm going to do my best to talk through it. Visually say all right. Let's go so. Why do we fail that fatigue that we feel after busy day after stressful. Wake all of those things what is stress. And what is a effect al energy. That should same you kind of obvious but it's not really at all so i'm gonna use the analogy off your teeth and the plock that builds up on your teeth. All the gummy slimy stuff. Whatever it is stuff builds up on your tape when you don't brush them so imagine that your monaco andrea which are the little engine rooms of your cells. That is in your monaco. Country is where you produce energy. Now imagine that the stress is rounding that little engine. It's eanet threw it at outside of its all around it so it would be like trying to run a car in a closed room or even for you to be an an a sealed room where eventually the exhaust builds up and up up carbon dioxide builds up where you can no longer produce the energy so the engine will just no longer be out to produce energy because it's too much exhaust coming in instead of natural a and your tastes get gummed up. There's more more plot build up throughout the day if you don't clean them in the evening and that is the same as aski- into bed a hormones through the cleaning of all of that gung they clear out all of that stress and the stress. That accumulates it's it may be tricky to pick shop because there are so many different types of stress that accumulate that we need to clear out so for example. There's a few types of plot bet occur in your brain particularly. There's a few hormonal chemical buildups. Four that basically mean that you can no longer operate is. We'll start closing because you haven't cleared out enough and it's built up throughout the day so that's just regular die today accumulation you've also then go exercise like stress where there's all these free radicals floating around and they get in the way of efficient energy production so there's quite a few different lives which is why when somebody says all stress caused the heart attack or stress was the reason i didn't perform well. It's the same thing we we are going to just categorize that all into the same thing because they are all different. Many things that inhibiting efficient energy production and when you inhibit efficient energy production with excess stress of one of these many many different sources that is going to cause issues of performance it. He's going to cause issues of health. I was just listening to professor grant scofield about the impact of daylight savings and that there are more hot attacks that day off to people lose that not of slate so that one hour change and losing that one hour of sleep means that people didn't get as good a sleep. They didn't clear out as much of that stress build up and therefore energy production was low and they will. It was hotter for the body to do what they wanted to do. It had to work harder. And the next step that i'm gonna get to. I'm going to get to it now. Is stress accumulates and compounds stress. So i i covered this a little bit in my talk about fatigue a couple of episodes ago. But i'm going to cover it again that if you wake up. Or let's say if you wake up all that the start of your rod or run you push hard and you go into glycol it excite which is low oxygen that produces more oxidative stress. Same as if you haven't had such a good night's sleep you haven't cleared out all of those chemical factors and plot build up you haven't cleared out as much so energy is inhibited. So both examples result in the same thing of energy bang inhibited because of stress bang which we could have avoided so. Let's say you can avoid it by going to bed earlier having good circadian rhythm you've got higher amount of hormones that come in and clear out the stress not so hormones. Klay the stress not without a good rhythm of hormones. A lot of things go out of whack so pay my experience white gain you may experience chronic fatigue human experience and other chronic illness disease. You may experience also. I'm assuming sooner in your all the years. Those things are linked to less sleep safe. You can definitely avoid guy into a role of shiftwork so back to have. That would play out in extra sauce. If you exercise hot at the start of a session you accumulate more stress because you've accumulated stress around the engine room. You are therefore making energy production less efficient from then on in until you can clear out that stress. Now the healthy you are the fitter and healthier you are the better you get at removing that stress as you go so that would mean you would be able to drop back into the robot design and over time. Maybe it's fifteen minutes. Maybe it's three hours. You will album to lower that amount of cumulated stress if you're able to loa the output for wall and go really aerobic so it's going to be clearing out already really healthy and fit. You can do that but if you not healthy and fit and you went and you have a whole not sleep. Oh you have a couple of days in a row of minimal stress or if you do exercise quite hard by just walking up a steep hill in your breath gets short and a low. Oxygen state accumulates small stress in your cells from then on anything you do after that point is going to be done in an environment where energy production is inhibited. And that means it will compound the stress that will accumulate from then on. Let's say your teeth. You've claimed a tape and nothing sticks through them for a wall. They've got a bit of you know protective layers on them. They're pretty good. And by the end of the day they've got a little bit of theory plaque on them and then that very part ban attracts more fairy placards easy to stick to from then on and it sticks to it and it builds up more and more and more off to that point little bit like the cell way. Once you've got that stressed that's inhibiting the efficient energy. Production by inhibiting oxygen by inhibiting the flow of blood nutrients all of those things that means that they will accumulate more stress around that energy saw of energy production in all of your motto andrea. So hope that makes sense visually. Because i can say my on. I'm just picturing a little round bowl of monaco andrea and i'm picturing it surrounded by you know plock. Let's say like you. Take just these gooey. Gummy stuff that's blocking nutrients that's blocking oxygen from coming in and the little engine inside is like pushing really really hard to try and get some energy out some a denison triphosphate. That is your life force energy. It's trying really hard to do what it can. But because it's really hot it's going to do it in a state that says if you were working much harder so lower oxygen and more of a glock state so much more sugar burning so low. Oxygen motu burnt for fuel will accumulate more stress. So that's why doing lots of intensity interval training is the opposite of building up really aerobic fat-burning fibers that excellent the health day to day. So building up suga. Burning five is that a great working in a lower oxygen state. Great if that's your goal is to be a sprinter but if you want to be healthy day to day you wanna have less stress around all the time so that you'll always operating in a really good flow of energy because you've got good flow of oxygen. You've got good fly. Blood fat coming in everything can be. Because you haven't got that lia- of stress accumulated around immodest andrea inhibiting to inhibit the energy production. So hope that is now making sense in. You can picture little ramboll when it's nothing around when there's low stress when you wake up from a really good night of sleep you've got no stress around it and energy can be pulled juice really easily. You get all the fats oxygen. Everything feels great bought. The inverse of that is you've got stress accumulated around so nutrients getting and so stress will continue to accumulate much much much quicker than if you started from a healthy state. So that explains a little bit. Y sleep is so important so if you can go to bed early and you'll melatonin kicks in and gets time to work all it's magic and all the other hormones triggered by the melatonin which is the main hormone that kicks in and then kicks all the abbas into work to clear out all that stress the plock the chemicals the build up the oxidative stress free radicals all of those things. Then you're going to feel better in the morning that even one hour later going to bed. Your melatonin is losing an hour even if you sleeping in the morning it doesn't help because your body is set to ice acadian. Rhythm so that's kadian rhythm doesn't just instantly change. According to your behaviors in our modern law because of modern life is only been around for seventy odd years and the amount of brought flu. Lots is probably even less than that so you imagine that just one hundred years ago and all the hundreds of thousands of years of our evolution we will only defined by the sun and doc nece and then when fire existed it was off but that is obviously not a very bright light compared to the lodge that we're under this denied so s acadian. Rhythm is a thing that has existed terada. Evelyn and we are now pretending that it's not important and it is really impacting. The ability for us to clear at stress h not and be healthy so constant accumulation of stress late to all sorts of chronic diseases. And so making sure well. Let's say doing your best. Let's say it's five nights a week. That you i really getting to bed earlier than you used to. Then you currently think he's feeling good for you. If you are lacking energy or if you training hod getting earlier is going to be better at you wanna do it consistently so that your circadian rhythm sets up a good pattern of melatonin coming in not and then in the morning the cortisol comes up as melatonin drops off. So that's going to happen around the same time that you set your circadian rhythm so just going to bed. Lighter doesn't push back the melatonin lighter it basically just doesn't keen at weren't as good of a fake because it still just going to be like. Oh well now. It's one i am. I better start tapering off and then quotas gonna stop coming into. Wake me up in a few hours time. So think of that that you are ruled by evolution. You ruled by a hormones. And they're older matic patterns that we can't change and trying to muck about with those will result in accumulation of stress which will inhibit energy production and inhibited energy. Production causes all sorts of issues not to mention the actual fact as i mentioned earlier. Things like alzheimer's is much much more prevalent in people that do not get good sleep because the plot doesn't get played out regularly so hope that is typically for you why and how take occurs from anything that you do from day to day. Living braiding everything. So it's funny. I'll just recap quickly conversation. I have with someone close to me regularly. is you know who's had a conditions quite a long gone. And i'll be well y i'm so tired today. I just started Why i mean. All i did was and then they will go on enlist about four days. I've running around driving grandkids around dropping things. He walking the dog all we only walked slow so we only did full kilometers and so basically means they were walking for about an hour and a half then they have to rush around doing all these other chores and then they did this. They did that so you imagine a day where somebody is already sensitive to fatigue already isn't sleeping ought so this person is already not sleeping. Well so they circadian rhythm isn't great. It hasn't recovered from some proper owners. Immune conditions and also still bang on some drugs. That are inhibiting it. And of course they do. Feel the stresses of day to day life. A little bit. So we're really focusing on working on that nervous system calming down so that you aren't. She's living in that sort of cortisol state And that sort of messing up the circadian rhythm hormones a little bit too so and it just. It's like i pull my hair. I'm like well. You've just told me how busy you were that you were a little bit stressed and you were really busy. But the last four days and you've been walking the dog for ninety minutes a day annual not sleeping well and at what point. Can you start to acknowledge that. Stress accumulates throughout each day. And that if you are fragile and susceptible to stress that not having little breaks is going to accumulate that even further so even like a ten minute nap can help with fatigue levels toward the end of the day so if you can chuck that in early afternoon that will help you feel a little bit better in the afternoon if the afternoons when you really struggle. If you can't feed in an app that's where you do just have to get to bed earlier. Manage your stress levels Your emotional stresses better your central nervous. System stresses better. Annuals nate to manage everything. Well your food your breathing. All of those behaviors your exercise levels. Everything needs to be controlled to a point that you can set up a consistent routine that you aren't going to have these. High levels of stress accumulating. Which then you know obviously then accumulate much much more stress and get to the point of a day of feeling really terrible and obviously when you've hit the point where that day feels terrible. You're doing further damage. Because that entire day the the modern andrea just suffering. There's no oxygen getting anywhere. It's difficult to feel like you're recovering. Walking isn't going to be great question. Just more production of energy while walking is going to produce accumulate more stress on top of this stress that exists so things like that is just becoming aware of your own sensitivities your own weaknesses your own limitations and building up slowly on top off a solid foundation of circadian rhythm so that is why getting to bed on time regularly early even is going to be one of the best things for setting that circadian rhythm and improving your whole minds and the other thing would be obviously avoiding terrible junk-food that's gonna spock behave by the hormones and neglect your body of nutrients But the main thing is then throughout the day taking little breaks just to take in some belly breasts to drop that central nervous system response down to improve your tone. Which is your paris pathetic. You'll rest and digest your calming nervous system. So you evaluate is connected through your your stomach your intestines your all of your organs so if you can just trigger that vegas sun and you can buy just taking five breath. Slowly in and out. Then you're just going to give you a signal body to your signal signal to your body that everything is okay and those hormones and stress responses will drop rapidly the same as when they will increase rapidly when you see a stress responses. Something's jumping out and you feel off or whether it's just that you say something on tv that makes you a bit tense watching too much news. Make you to stress those little things that you become. That impacting your central nervous system. In a fato flight response over time become chronic. And to the point that you don't even notice that your body is stressed anymore because it has become your natural normal state of existence and you just accustomed to it so taking little breaks throughout the day. Just thirty seconds to a minute rate in and out through the noise into into your belly can help trigger the vega ton the vagus nerve to improve vogelstein. And that is your para sympathetic restorative nervous system functions. And it's going to help you. Connect with all f. I been living in a state of chronic stress. Just mauled chronic stressful. However long am i in at now without realizing it well raising at three and is in and out of the belly and calm your body and calm your mind. Think of something that you're grateful for bringing him on completely present and quiet and that's it as you breathe in and out with age breath you may notice just shoulders a really losing tension now next losing tension your entire body you back is becoming looser and more relaxed now toll with your chest up so that you you're standing proud and suddenly that quite confidence of being fully prison with a little bit of confidence and you've totally shifted the nervous system. Impacting your body to do that as regularly as you can. Maybe it's every time you get a cup of tea. Maybe it's every time you go to the bathroom and you'll learn that you can tap into that without even needing to stop under the breasts without needing to stop doing what you're doing at all and you'll be able to tap into that awareness and trigger y'all para sympathetic nervous system very easily and get huge benefits to reset that amonal rhythm and reduce stress claim more stress not sleep better and have more energy every day. Thanks for listening go. is i hope you enjoyed. I hope it wasn't confusing. our hope. You could picture the things in my mind that i was picturing well talking to you if it still clears mod then get in contact with me. Love to hear from you. And i'd love to work with you as well on all sorts of topics health performance listening and say next time.

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Exodus: Scott Ian diz que "Bonded By Blood"  o melhor disco de estreia do thrash - Ritual Metal Mantra #062

Metal Mantra Podcast

22:24 min | 2 months ago

Exodus: Scott Ian diz que "Bonded By Blood" o melhor disco de estreia do thrash - Ritual Metal Mantra #062

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Noble Eightfold Path Workshop II - Part 4 | 27 February 2021 | Ajahn Brahmali & Venerable Mudito

Buddhist Society of Western Australia

1:56:57 hr | 4 months ago

Noble Eightfold Path Workshop II - Part 4 | 27 February 2021 | Ajahn Brahmali & Venerable Mudito

"Okay wanting everyone good morning to that so doing the radio young okay. All right we're four minutes late. Okay all right. So we're doing the second workshop for the nobel for paf series and today as usual we have john bre molly and venerable ditto. Don't an introduction and let me just quickly introduce who the nuns we have here today so we've got veneral when he sarah with got venerable. Pick wondering why there's no pick onto seat okay and vero who pay car okay. All right and then we've got general. Tommy karoon ika and when we're going to do the guided meditation today. She did the death contemplation. One isn't it. that's really good. Van will gen t as well as vanua surata so just just a few things that i'd like to mention this morning. We constantly trying to improve the program. And how we run it so each time after each workshop like emailing a romani also we do. We do that anyway. So we notice that. We've we've taken quite a lot of time answering questions and for people to ask questions but we want to make sure that teachers. You have enough time to address. Those questions are important questions but same time also have enough time to finish the materials that the teachers have prepared so we were thinking that from today's workshop on words because the teachers will open up the questions and unser after each meany meditation so we will take questions from two people or other two questions. We'll have two questions for many meditation. And because we only taking two questions per mini meditation. We would like to ask everyone to try and give chance to someone else who has not asked a question or the session at the same time in order to make sure that any burning questions left unanswered. I have prepared a question box a little bit similar to how we run retreats and we have because it's a salary to talk and then we have people to write questions on a piece of paper and then we can pasta questions to the teachers and can you can then see depending on time whether they want to address the questions during this workshop during next workshop. But i'm quite sure they will address it sometime. Doing doing the series yeah And of course these two questions limit does not appeal to the nonce so the nuns can ask questions more than two questions and not just quite happy to answer it. Yeah l lma and forgot to introduce this method sitting yup things that we can do is because sometimes there will be extra time at the very end and we can actually more questions than if not questions left if you have a box for questions or whatever. We can do it at that time. Okay all right and then we we are also asking people to that are related to noble four. There are always other avenues for you to ask other related questions but yeah so. Let's let's just keep those questions to this. And i just want to quickly mention as those of you would have known we are doing a small donation drive to get a new laptop for giambra molly For the monastery. So i've got a donation box outside but now because the classes after we brought it in so we'll put a donation volunteer again during lunch time. If some of you didn't bring cash just disappoints me. We'll see what we can do a yup other than that. I think that's pretty much it did. I miss anything else. Good to me. Okay all right so let's me back to the okay. Thank you and so we are going to continue pretty much left off last time so remember this is about early. What is and because. It is about early buddhism. It really is about what the buddha taught not about buddhist traditions and buddhist developments over the past two and a half thousand years as about coming back to kind of the what the buddha taught and of course that is very important because what buddha taught obviously is the gold standard for what buddhism is about and everything else in two and a half thousand years since then. It might be right sometimes. It might be wrong but what the buddha taught obviously has to be the standard for everything else and because of that Usually when we have workshops we have a session where we talk matt misconceptions last time. We had misconceptions about dependent origination. We're going to look at the misconceptions about the noble eightfold path. Where some of the wrong ideas that are out there. You can see if not wrong at the very least. They are not really in accordance with how the buddha taught and that is the again the essential thing here. So we're going to look at that and see how. See what happens when we look at these Ideas maybe today. Maybe we will have a discount. We have the breakout session later on. Maybe we can discuss this topic further. Some of you may have some ideas of your own. About what our misconceptions about early buddhist sorry about the noble eightfold path to get this right. So it's nice to get added because we have obviously limited idea about this. Misconceptions is good to have other peoples input as well so that might be an interesting topic. Toronto can bring up your favorite misconception. We can maybe bring up your own misconception. Yeah now get it. Now i understand. Thank you so much for clarifying. My my own kind of often happens so the first misconception. We're going to look at is the following him. All paths are different ways up the same mountain. The mountain symbolizes climbing the mountain walking the path. Yeah and reaching the pinnacle like reaching the end point of that particular spiritual path or whatever it is and this is a common view that you will hear specially maybe not maybe so much buddhism but sometimes you hear it in certain religions have this idea sometimes buddhists also have this idea. There are certain kinds of more new religions tend to have these sorts of ideas and but so is it really true that is really the issue here and so this is kind of the idea. Many paths with the same destination. Here you climb the same avenue. Which is that can recognize at mountain. I think something. I'm not sure what it is. It looks looks like really awesome mountain but anyway so if we get to the peak of ketu you find god that's what they say and so here you have all of these various religions. Yeah everyone going to the same place that really the case. Why is buddhism missing by the way you have islam christianity. Hinduism buddhism is not usually the case that really s. We'd really bad. I think anyway so okay. So this is one this alternative vendors the other alternative which is like this earlier the clear. Yeah so this is this. I think this has been made by christians. This particular one you can see. Christianity is eternal life. The other one's just lied to death. You die and you're finished. I think it must. This must be a kind of slightly biased by the kind of scheme over here. So this alternative. Yeah so which one is more likely to be true. Well this one obviously is also wrong in the sense that but what is more likely to be true and i think a lot of this idea that all parks leads to the same this donation it is kind of emotionally satisfying sent sentimentally. It feels nice. Yeah nice sentiment. We all traveling together. We all brothers and sisters and spiritual path and we heading in the same direction. But i think the reality is much more complicated because obviously i think i the first question is which which parts are we talking about here. Obviously there's an endless potential number of paths if someone is praying to and are they traveling on the same mountain as well nowhere. They're going they probably going to no way no way. Or if you are like a satanist could be considered what exactly is the definition of a path anyway. Well how do limit these things down. Is everything just the same. It doesn't mean when you start to look at this doesn't stop. It doesn't really make sense anymore. And then you look at the goal. Is that the various religions. Talk about and actually quite different. These residents here talk about god. Yeah but again. The talk about god in very different ways. Can it be really be the same thing in buddhism. We say there is no god so how can god. How can buddhism have the same goal as as a religion teaches about god. If we don't talk about god remember some years ago. I met this person. You know the behi behind religion. Yeah that was can. It was established in persian iran. Back in the nineteen th centuries a very new religion and they have this idea that all regions are the same or go to the same goal. So there was. This lady was down in central catedral in earth. We had this multi interfaith thing. What multicultural thing and so center. I'm not so sure about that. And says oh yes that's right region to goes on goes up. The same out was adamant that this was the case. And of course the that is not really the buddhist point of view because the buddhist point of view. There is no such thing as an eternal god so it gets very problematic. The paths are so various that it's the nations are so various. So how can you actually talk about these things. And i if you have a little bit of a kind of critical mind and the mind that distinguishes between these things. It is very obvious that this is a very kind of shallow view is an easy view but the reality is more complicated. Of course we could say that some parts go maybe part of the way. Yeah some parts are some aspects of the powers that are right. Can you divided up in this way. But that all have the same goal. I think is not really justified. Do before we go one thing would come to my mind. I remember when. I started in twenty years ago when i lived in new york. And there's different kinds of description. It's it's quite a daunting task when you starting as a buddhist that it seems to be everybody's like okay. We all going to the same destination but the path seemed to be so different varied where let's say within buddhism a- within buddhism so some some say. You don't have to believe any of this stuff you just meditate. That's good enough. And some say you have to start keeping five precepts and some say you know you can keep some of the precepts out and it's it's a difficult for me to get started because it's a quite a very way of teachings out there so that's i guess that some of the stuff will come today but i think within buddhism. Yeah i think that's a really good point. I actually i wanted to mention. That's a good thing that you brought it up. I think it's very true. That within buddhism itself there is a number of parks and i think there's a number of destinations within buddhism. I do think there are some woods lead to different destinations than others. I think some of them lead to kind of god. Existence very similar similar in some ways of these religions and so there is a lot of variety and so it's a very good point so that is why it is so important again to study the early buddhist texts to get be realistic about what real buddhism is because within two and a half thousand years of history you can expect a lot of distortion. You can expect things moving and different ways problem with the buddhist teaching is that it is so revolutionary and so different from everything else. There will be a tendency in the human mind to drive or to make the teaching conform to the craving craving. Is i wanted to be a self. I wanted to be god and then the tend to distort your idea what is to fit your craving here and i think this is a very big problem that we always have to be on the outlook for him and i think there was a lot of trying to fit it into the society and your present time into stays may be drinking. A little bit of alcohol is not a problem. It's hard to maybe talk some people that you should keep the five precepts maybe awkward even sometimes but not just that already straight after the time of the one pass away. They started to conform with that with the idea of of what was time. It was in india at that time so it started to develop from there are ways has led. Yeah exactly. I think you see in. The vin are the monastic rules and regulations. There's obviously been a historic development or those rules. And i think a lot of those rules that come precisely from indian culture indian. Society were incorporated in the innovative. Yeah yeah now. That's a good point. Okay so what. I can't remember what my next slide is a see. What happens mr okay. So but this is what the says. Yeah he says that this is a very famous verse that we have actually mentioned before. Just this is. The par is no other for the purification of insight. You should practice this path. This is the discombobulation of mara. Discombobulation is at roma's translation. Which is quite nice. I prefer that one i think. So this is this is the path. What is this path. Well it is the noble eightfold path and the very clearly says there is no other. This is the path you have to practice. And if you have a certain path that will lead to a certain goal. If you have a different path it would lead to a different goal and it will not lead to the full and final purification of insight in other words full insight into things. It requires a certain path one of those famous very famous statements. And when you see that you may think that buddhism is just like any other related and yeah we are the best. We aren't exclusive access to the truth. Nobody else has access to the and the way that we have because we are buddhist and the answer is not really because buddhism claims as opposed to claims dislike other regions it claims to be a universal teaching universal in the sense that talks about universal aspects reality as it actually is is we claim and if we claim that it doesn't really make sense to say that you got to be a buddhist. If you're not a buddhist you're going to go to. We're going to go anywhere. Not a pretty bad place but that is not really how buddhism works because it works on principles. How you live. How you are. It doesn't really matter so much whether you're buddhist or not still. The buddha is claiming this is the only path. So how do we make this conform to each other. How can we say this is the path and at the same time talk about universal principles and this is the next thing that comes up here which is a beautiful teaching of the buddha. Yeah this is from the dig kinda maha pony nearby ceuta in whatever teaching and training dumb imia. The noble eightfold path is founder there. The noble ones are founder. The nobody wants to areas those who have puree fiber inside like we saw before they are found wherever there is a noble eightfold path dumb. That was sort of a was thinking about yesterday. When we were thinking about the different ways of misconceptions that well then mean that the laypeople on a practicing with the sesame mayor there. Okay so that is a good question. Let me get back to. The second is an important point but the point about this. Is that if you practice the noble eightfold path. It doesn't matter if you are a buddhist doesn't matter if you believe in the budai doesn't matter if you whatever. Yeah what matters is what you how you live and this fits with this idea of universal principle is not about what you call yourself is about how you live. That really matters. And this is this beautiful teaching in the mahar pundits suit but at the same time. It doesn't matter what you call yourself but you have to follow this particular path. Otherwise it doesn't work you kind of make sense. Yeah of the whole thing sort of is quite beautiful in that way here. It's not exclusive to buddhist. But at the same time there's a very clear path that you have to follow and of course we know from the way the suit has are taught that sometimes we have beings like the Bulldozer particular would like the individual. Buddhas are buddha as that arise. Don't actually teach so they become like become saints or the become you know people who live in this world without having any real impact as such problems on this call private buddhas shake means like one potty by themselves and that makes sense yeah and then a buddha arises when put arises is the buddha a buddhist or obviously not that comes out of ordinary society and suddenly they have an insight into things that is the insight they have but not really buddhist an insight into reality and later on we get this institution called the buddhism but really it is about insight into reality that it is all about two so marvelous teachings and of course that is where you'll find the noble ones. So that is i. Think the right way to think about the the path so it's not all paths lead in the same way but if you practice the right path it will lead in the right way. Regardless of what you call yourself so teaching wyndham of india. Yeah so you're saying this only applies to monastics because this is dumb india so people here have a chance that what you're saying what i'm thinking. Okay sorry no so actually yes so you can see here the parley words. I last time we were asked to have some more policies. I think it's really nice to have some more partly words as we have to find a balance between too much whatever. But i think it's generally nice idea you can see here. There were dumb. Move in the if you look at the pilot the second line of the parley. It says dumb. Been ni- reo in the second line so and this is very interesting because dumber vinegar is usually understood to mean the dumber on the one hand is the teaching of the buddha was the best dumber and vienna that is then ministered to be the monastic regulations or the monastic rules. Often considered the. But if you look at the suit as the where the word vinegar is used. It is actually used in a slightly different way in the earliest part of the suit. That's what it means. It means like it is used in a sense of training. Yeah so the dumb is the teaching like the doctrine the theory. If you like in the vigna is the practice that we do as a consequence of that teaching theory and practice doctrine and how we express that doctrine in real life. So when we keep the fibroids that's when you read them at the five precepts in that's dumber. Yeah so it's like the understanding that the knowledge and then it is the expression of that knowledge in how we live our lives. Sir that desire on the part you're okay after all. Yeah so you can okay. You're okay you can still stay and carry on with this. So yeah the noble wanna fad and of course that means that then you can have noble ones both among monastics and among laypeople. Yeah there isn't really any apps. There is no absolute distinction between monastics and lay people. The biggest distinction is that we look a bit more funny and here but otherwise otherwise it is largely. Of course there is the advantage of being monastic. You have the whole support of the rules and all the things that don obviously light it down for a reason but in the end there isn't any absolute barrier between the two anyway. So that is the first about the nanako myth. So what does next. That's the next one but let's stop. I think we should stop there because that goes next topic here. Anything more we should say on. That can think of anything now but maybe we should have quotation break and then we can have a couple of questions if you like. Yep okay everyone have. Let's carry on so any questions about the pots the Where the all pass in the same direction. Go the same mountain peak or not. Wanna miss anything about that. Everyone is happy that the noblest path is the only path. Could you take the microphone. Okay st lucia. Please take the microphone in. Slides said this is essentially the only path i've heard in various descriptions of sutra a similar statement about the saudi pattern. Okay how sati pattern is part of the noble eight fold path but not the other way around. You clarify that. Yeah i don't think it says in the exactly those words that's petar is the full path only part of it. May it may say other things about something that isn't essential ingredient or something like that but it doesn't say i think anywhere that it is a complete in its own right for example. It says that's at the patina only works if it's practiced on duty and the last ditty seal offers divall specifically set in number of suitors. But i think the point is that if you practice at pattana in the right way it actually includes all the factors so if you look at the pga ceuta how the by thomas is expressed. It talks about contemplation of things. That only happen if you have some somebody yeah. It talks about the contemplation of the magi touch. It is the large broad mind or the a pomona measureless mind. And all of these. Things are terms for jonah states or the brahma us practice to the highest limit or the remote that remote Which again is liberated minder. So in other words it is actually included inside. Petar patana as you say is the course for some a mighty but when it comes to this idea pattana ceuta there. The contemplation of the john is actually included in the practice so there's different angles in my point of view. But you're quite right. There was no such thing as just such a town being the only path. Yeah think we lost about ninety five percent of the people on that question. Okay so okay anyway. Go listen to the recording. Later on view getting just talking about satin is the seventh factor of the noble literal path and deluca. Were saying that sometimes it said that all you have to do is at the pattana. So how is that possible. It's potanin is the seventh factor and you have to practice all eight. That's this is the only path how can set petar everything. That's basically the question. So that makes sense to so i apologize. Sometimes please please piper. If i if i talking things and you are new i know some of you are quite new to the dumb. Please just asking and tell us all for not kind of not doing the not properly using poly words without thinking after wild when you've been a monk for a long time it's like you're is almost like you get this kind of specialized vocabulary use it. Yeah it's like all kinds of all. I think all vocations that you specialize in jokes. That only can only understand if you're among nobody else can understand it a bit like that unfortunately so please stop and ask you and other questions about this. Yup please hyper english. Pali john this is not about the as a path or anything but those something. You mentioned your talk now. You just mentioned that laypeople and monastic has no difference which puzzled me actually. Can you elaborate on that. Because what do you mean by that. Okay what i mean. Is that if you practice the noble footpath down if you practice the teachings properly then there is no difference is about the practice that matters if you fulfill the eight factors and you practice and properly then it doesn't matter whether the person or or monastic but it might be easier to fulfill the factors if you monastic for example. Yeah so it's the principles are the same but the might be one situation might be more conducive to the practice and the other one but there was no essential difference and sometimes when you looked at the people in the world. Sometimes you see people who are practicing like you know. It's just mind boggling. How the practice you know they. They kind of live with life just like monastics and they are better than ninety. Eight percent of monastics. Yeah in terms of the keeping their precepts meditation So sometimes you find people who are very very impressive and sometimes you find monastics so not very impressive at all you know you think. Gps doing where they live. But in general in average you will find that. The monastic path is more powerful. Because it is more conducive to the practice of the noble eightfold path renunciation on the path. And of course as a monastic. You more geared to was that you have things like solitude vega on the monastic path much more easily accessible as a monastic. You have very good kalaiana meters on the monastic path. You have to have the but have bram bendable would ya you all the all the venerable bendable method a really good people who all pulled in the direction which is very very powerful. So monastic life has many advantages but the basic principles can be practiced whether you're layperson or monastic. Okay let's two questions. Yeah so we have. We're limiting you two questions now. So if you don't like that. Ben complain later on. So let's move onto the second misconception or mitha i didn't think so i think you're right. Yeah okay so this is going to be controversial. So this is the setup. Path is an alternative to the noble a full path. Yeah and eight. P noble eightfold path reminding you and whenever you see. Hp noble eightfold path of so the path very common path in buddhism. It is very common in mahane would is of course because that is often one of the main things that you do in mahayana buddhism but it is also quite common in terada. Would asthma know that. But it's actually very common in both john and teradata so. I don't really want to criticize any type of buddhism as such but what. I want to criticize an criticized. What i just want to compare this idea of this path. So the noble eightfold parts are very common the world so for that reason we need to ask. Is it really a valid alternative. Sometimes they say it's better than the nobler forbath but let's stick with a more basic question. Is it a valid alternative. You practice the bodhisattva path. Instead of the noble eightfold path. One thing i want to say about this the party saad parties. Basically what you're aiming is to be a buddha so the the key difference here is we are having to be fully. Lighten as well but the police officer sort of like continuing this until the become buddhas so always remember when you see party. Sata they aiming to be put us. That's what the aim is on. thank you. it's good to kind of set out all the details. Everyone is on board. So that's the bodhisattva. Path versus the noble eightfold path. Is that what did the buddha himself teach. Did he teach one or the other or both or neither or what so. Let's see what we have here. So the first thing i want to discuss is the word. Bodhisattva yeah body. Satra often trans. Awesomeness bodine bodey. Boeing is means like awakening and sat. data is understood very often to me like a being so something like awakening being in other words. A person who is moving towards bodey. Yeah that's the idea of. The word is the first question that we need to ask. Is it used in the early buddhist texts we call it the e bts. Is this word found in early buddhist texts. And for those of you who've been around for a while you will know that it is found. Yeah it is found in this particular phrase and only in this phrase in the earliest text is the only place that is founder and this particular phrase is found. Maybe i don't know five to ten times. Maybe in the suit and it is found whenever the buddha talks about his life before his awakening as when its founder anna. Know if this is the bay some boda and not be some does bodhisattva. Save sato so we can see. The board is that by is there. That's the buddhist. Yeah you can see in their hiding away in the middle of that conglomeration of letters. Yes this is actually found in the early suitors so if it is found in the suit as what exactly does it mean this is kind of very important. Does it refer to put his software as we now understand it as a separate path or does it perhaps refer to something else so let's have a look at some of the translations are given for this typically in the suit. This is the first translation mr by bicker. Bodey this translation of exactly those words you so now before my enlightenment while our still only an enlightened but is that it's not all that helpful years way pattaya again so you can see here. The basic idea is before my enlightenment. That is when are according to the eib tease. Yeah while i was still unenlightened. Decide to so and this is one of the main distinctions in the early buddhist texts compared to lay tradition. Is that in the early buddhist texts. The idea of this center is the buddha talking about his last life before his awakening before it kind of becomes the buddha. His lip buddha to be practicing trying to become enlightened is in this last life after he renounces the home life and his practice to become a buddha at that time. Here's about this. After a very short period of time this word is used. there is a some exemptions. Some exception is one one famous exception for that that is found in a suit called the sharia buddha ceuta wonderful and marvelous found in the magic one hundred number one hundred and twenty three in the measure monica and it is about all the amazing things that happened when the buddha was born just after his birth or even slightly prior to his birth in that certain is one of the few places where the idea that via seems to be used also for the life just before this last life of the buddha as one of the few but that's ceuta is already show is kind of development of later doctrine in it. Sometimes the early suit has have been developed later on they have had material habit to them and the way to understand that is to do what we call comparative. Study of the suit as compare the various versions on it. And by doing that you could kind of distill down earliest kind of word of the buddha by doing that so you have. You have the suit as in chinese translation from different schools and sometimes in tibetan in sanskrit or whatever and then you compare these things and you kind of distill. What is the essence. The buddha word if you like and when you do that you find that. This particular suit has a lot of elements to it. That were added later. Why because this different versions of the suit are so very different. There's lots of things and lots of things that are not the same so that is the only place and it's kind of interesting that wherever you see the idea is us differently already. You have a tendency to lateness a tendency to develop ideas beyond how the buddha torture. So what then could what is that mean. And the word. What is the point about this word. It can be understood in different ways and this is a very important point because a word like sutter can actually be a pilot is a word which one word often has large number of different meanings. So there's an alternative meaning to this winter and were sata can be equivalent to what is in sanskrit called suck and sucked in someone who is intent on something. Yeah so i think and this was first. This idea was first proposed by a man who was the professor of sanskrit at oxford university and he was the one who propose this. I yeah and i think it is a very good very bright proposal but in the suit does it does not mean awakening being. It means one person who is intent on awakening eh. Which makes very good sense. And then you start to understand why it is called bodhisattva in the suitors because the moment the buddha renounces the house or life the reason why he renounces. The house is precisely because his intent on awakening. You remember the story of the buddha. He thinks about old age and death about illness. And then there's the story which may not be so true about you know. He sees the messengers or whatever but his main thing is this idea of seeing death and seeing the the there must be something more to life. you know. you can't just go go around catching all of these things and then die afterwards. I want to seek a solution to this. Yeah the buddha is intent on awakening and that is why he renounces the house or life. So it's a beautiful way of thinking about this and so then you have the translation like this before my awakening while i was still awakened but intent on awakening intent this the buddha after renounces the house life. This translation is by of so john. Yeah and very of not always but very often kind of see eye to eye with answer to the way he translates in this case. I think he's translation is preferable to the one by beka body. Don't mean disrespect to when it will be kubota. Here's a maverick translator. But i think in this case this is more corrector so this is a difference between the two and this is what that means in the early. Ceuta sir so. This is the first point about this. Yeah so then. What i think then. Then what happens next to. I think you almost preemptively talk all my points already. Sometimes repetition is good. So i was just listening to you. Know you took that point. Okay so all right so as we often see. Monks approach the buddha and ask for advice to our attention so the monks never go in early early buddhist scriptures. they never go to buddha buddha. They ask how to become an hour on how to become fully. Lighten one but meaning. They used the word ship so it seems reasonable. Suppose that those who by the buddha hood would have done the same that the buddha would have responded and would have responded in fitting way so but there is no aspiration to do that. We're not well. Why wouldn't they why. Why would they do you have well. I mean if you see somebody nice. You want to be like that. Don't like you see. I don't know when you're young. You're so why how come they didn't want to be interesting. That is interesting i know. Why didn't you ask this question. You and they'd never okay. Let's see what happens then. The question arises. Why we don't find. Even trays of teachings bodhisattva partner. Text the and this is the things where we don't have. The departure thinks the word artem bramall teaching the body subtler body satires we say polly. The word is there but it means something else. There is no really path to do that. Do you understand the difference. The as that the agent prometheus the ease mansion about body set w-wa for sutter but there is no path to become a off buddha rather us. Yeah there is no path to become a buddha. It's bit strange. Okay if there is a causal background to the realization of enlightenment as the buddha rather than our hand why are the silent about mikhail meaning are taxed and the buddha here in small instead of capital. It's and you know to being buddha. Buddha mean in light and once you know the the boot us rather in why why if they if they as a background to that you know. The buddha must have have become the buddha somehow but the nikkei is a silent about it right wide point. Why don't they point to the possibility of buddha. Put a hood itself as an object does aspiration. Why don't even have the buddha hood as an. It's an it's there. Why do they always change the word you know. They talk about the buddha buddha but why do they always when they go and ask the buddha they always talk about our hunt. Why why isn't they even possibility there that we have all these looming questions in other words. You're saying that if there was a bath you would expect to find something about is who does. Yeah so the fact that you don't find anything straight. It's not word in any way whether they may be use something else instead of our ship. Path or rather the party subtler path. Maybe they use some other way means of you know telling the buddha like how did you become that way you are. They a east maybe texan. What happens when they tell what was before. He was buddha in early texts. We didn't think about that yesterday. But that i mean some. They are stories like that because run where the buddha says before you know lives you know what i'm pointing to woods. Look good to countersuit like this. I you know all these things aspirations. And this and that. That's an innocent extra very important point because when you look at the suit as the talks about his past lives then there is no indication at all that it was on a path and practicing towards the buddha who had in fact the exact opposite is the case. One of the most famous suit as i should have added this year. But i didn't even think about but one of the most famous suit as about the buddha's past life is when it the gut dicara suit. I found imagine magic number. Eighty two three something that it a too i think it is anyway and in the gut dicara ceuta supposedly past life of the buddha and may will be in the suit the buddha is yeah and he this brahmin he has a friend and then this friend says to this says to this brahmin. Who is the future. Buddha is go and see the buddha the casa is around but would want to come and see the buddha and then this future buddha who was supposed to become buddha goethe mind if you just forget about those. Don't believe anything about this. Is you know this nonsense. Best not go there. Anything to do is very resistant and his friend got dicara who tries to keep on persuaded him. Yeah and do some very extraordinary stuff to persuade them to come and visit the buddha and then eventually okay okay. and it. Kind of drags him along there and eventually he listens to him and when he listens to him of course then you think wow this is really good stuff but it doesn't give the impression of some one who is on the path that gives the exact opposite impression someone who is very resistant to hearing the buddhist teachings so it is almost the opposite of the idea of someone is on the path and there are many store that another famous story is in the partake. Jake particular ceuta anyway. It's in the potato ceuta. it's in the anger. Threes number fifteen or thereabouts and that is the story of also the past life of the buddha where he is a wheel right in other words someone who makes wheels. We'll wait a someone who produces wheels and there. He is very low occupation in society considered one of the very basic ones and there he makes wheels for the king and the king says. I'm going to war and in a new wheel for my war chariot. It seemed like the king had one washer wheel very small very small scale. Yeah this is kind of interesting about things. In ancient in everything was very small scale. It's hard to know but anyway in new wheel for his washer. Can you make it for me here. And then this buddhist by he makes a wheel for the charito the king. And that's really what the story is about and the stories about how good he was at making wheels and then you know it goes on. Because he's so good at making wheels that's why he became such a buddha in the future because he had that intention to do things well but there's nothing there about practicing the path in fact if anything making wheels so that people can go to war is almost opposite practicing the path. Yeah ok here's a wheel. Now you can go and have lots of violence and kill people with as like so and this is something you see almost throughout the suit so that when the buddha talks about is past lives. There's no indication that he is on a path. In fact in the is the exact opposite that he's not on a path orla. He's blind just like everyone else. Yeah but he had just happened to stumble across teachings see what what Okay so why. The third question. Why do they include no description of career. This is From peekapoos there was a quite a long article but is just sort of took the points of the article. So why is there any description of the career if it is actually like a reasonable if it is a path like it is promoted these. Why do the architects and they were. Some answers may be. Nobody's in this if you want to read this article. He was speculating. Maybe was to you know like he didn't want to the buddha said. These are the leaves in my hand. I just teach you what you need to know. Maybe he knew something else but he didn't wanna teach you would've may be discombobulated kombucha -combobulate. Everybody say like. Oh yeah by the way this is. This is party subtle path but actually you should follow this path as well so maybe it's too complicated. He just wanted to teach one path. One answer perhaps. I don't know what else did he mention there. Why wasn't there no description. I can't remember now from too many but it was just basically what it comes down to. There is no mention about this actually like this career path in nicolaas and all seems to becoming later later development of buddhism saw the body sub par path to become if you to being aspirin to be a buddha but that leads us to a few questions that i interesting if there is no indication in the early buddhist texts disadva- path. I think that is fairly clear that even though the word occurs there's no indication of a path and that leads to the question. Well why then do we have widened. Is there such an idea. What does that come from. The idea of the central path and best question number one and the second one is how there's a buddha arise if there is nobody central these other two questions with have to unser yeah because otherwise is very difficult to understand what is going on so so again that the buddha says there is no part just this is the path. There is no other for the purification of insight. Here by saying that. You're almost already excluding the disadva- path because you're saying that there is on. This path is the noble for path which leads to arrowhead chip so that is kind of enough but then yeah and then he didn't never teach anything apart from the nobody full power in the sutras and this is such an important thing in his own right. if the buddha doesn't teach anything apart from the noble path if we take the buddha as our teacher if we take the buddhist teaching as the gold standard the route that we should all look to to find out what we should practice. Then why should we practice et cetera. Path when this is what. The buddha teaches question. Well why should we hear. Whose path are we practicing. If we're practicing the buddha's setup will not practice in the path of the buddha. So whose path are we practicing here. What does that path coming from. This is such an interesting question if you have a later ideas in buddhism that i'm not found in the suit as where do those ideas come from and a lot of these ideas. Remember that these many of these ideas. They don't really have an author her. When you get the politics only author we know is the buddha and then you have a few authors like maybe venable sarah put. Yeah and then you have some of the monks and nuns in teradata and teradata who offered those verses but the vast majority of buddhist text. They don't really have an author. They are anonymous texts. The idea like the buddhis- central path is found in the in the politics is found in collection called the charrier pitakaka which talks about the path of the buddha before he became enlightened. That is where it is found and who wrote the text. Nobody knows is anonymous and this is very problematic. We can choose either on the one hand to take on board teachings of the buddha that we know is early buddhist text or we can take on path like the border path written by anonymous people. We have no idea who they are whether they enlightened or not whether they had any real insight or not these things are very obscure. Yeah so we have the choice. And i would say it is very dangerous to start practicing a path that is laid down by someone who is anonymous who we don't know anything about. We have no idea where it's gonna leader. Our choice should obviously be in my opinion anyway to follow what the buddha taught that is what it means to be a disciple of the buddha but is what it means to be a true buddhist to follow the teachings of the buddha himself so and this is one of the things that the buddha again. We're just talking a second ago about how the buddha just didn't really seem to be on the path in his previous life and this is another indication of that Where he said this is from the mahar. Piney bona's suit other great the suit down the buddha's passing away mannequins. Yeah monks and nuns are not understanding not penetrating the four noble truths both you and i both you and i have one that entrance migrated for such a very long time. Yeah the buddha is saying here that he has wondered entrance migrated. He's not on the path he just wondering around my granting just like anyone else he's not really on the border set apart for this is what this seems to indicate right before we go. I think that the one thing for me as well. I've sometimes if he'll fear coming up what's going to happen in next lifetime. You just don't know we keep wondering wondering and he's actually actually very long time you know with this path was subtler path. It's as if you have this clear path on your following a you never going to get out of it s peration and you're going to move along with this and you're going to be become a buddha somewhere. Yeah could good luck with that one hard enough as it is. I think that's a really good point people. Maybe that's maybe that one of the psychological reasons behind the boy this path. You want to feel safe in the future that you're carrying on with his path. You gotta lose it again. That could be one of the psychological reasons behind. It drives this kind of ideas. Yeah but yeah so interesting and then comes the kind of the import favorite monkeys coming again. Yeah you wonder how. We talked so fast. We talked so fast there. This is how it happens. Thank you so it. Should it be even faster now. Nobody should talk roster okay so so then then. How did the buddha reach awakening. If it didn't practice a author and this become as the next important point how did actually happen and the answer is that sometimes it happens more or less it happens more or less by just the right conditions coming together the right person with a ride qualities living in the right society at the right time and place although these things coming together and then bang you get the buddha boom so that is how it is. Just like you can imagine they. Are you know if you look at people in our society. Yeah in general not as buddhist. But anyone really. You will notice that. There are certain people who just happen to live. Well why do they live well whether it's not because they are not because they are practicing a path but best because they have been conditioned in a certain way maybe the parents taught them the right way or they had good teachers or they had some good spiritual guides but it's not as if they are on a par that stretches back into infinity in the past it is just that conditions come together and the buddha is just an extreme example of that all conditions coming together obviously had practices some meditation in the past life so that in this life when he sits down under the rose apple tree as a child his spontaneously goes into meditation. Obviously it must be because impact this meditation the past life so he brings a lot of good qualities with him into this life and then this life he's very sharp has very powerful spiritual qualities so it enables him to make that breakthrough. That is how it happens. So it's more like broke says. Yeah things certain things coming together and butter comes out of it and that is why a buddha is really a natural principle the principle of nature every now and again someone some person somewhere will have the right qualities they will make the breakthrough and then you have a new buda arising in the world that seems to be the explanation in suit. The suit has says a buddha arises. Target putt jetty. Target arises in the world or budo remember. That's really all. It seems to be saying in the suit so it is not. There's no indication that it is a result of the path so if it is a result of apart and to me it doesn't make that much sense to talk about the path that goes over. Many lifetime is how do you remember that path. How do you know what you're supposed to do. Yeah i let's actually i think the misconception. It's quite often people think you live a good life. He put his. You will remember that next lifetime. You have to be very careful with that kind idea that tried to aspire to get. Get out of here this lifetime if you can because you never know what's going to happen next. Yeah exactly it. And this is what the buddha says. Now is the time to make the effort to talk about this all the time in the suit because the future is just insert and now is the time i was almost exact. Opposite of having this idea of carrying on remember you're going to follow the path and so there is a very big downside with that buddhist idea that actually makes you maybe a bit complacent even a riot can. Yeah it could okay. We really hammering the past. So then the question comes. Where does the bodhisattva path. Come from yeah. This is the next thing. We talk very briefly because otherwise we're going to be for a long time. There is some very good literature on this online. And for those of you interested. I would recommend you to read a book by bendable lawyer called the call. The genesis of the bodhisattva ideal. Something like that. You can find it online for free and it's one of the best studies. I am aware of on the arising of the ideal. And what you find you find the kind of in the embryo. Embryonic forum of the bodhisattva. Ideal is already found in the earliest suit. As i already mentioned the sharia buddha ceuta before and you find a few little bits and pieces like that. I kind of start to get this feeling for the arising of the bottom ideal so this would have been an idea. That arose started to rise after the buddha passed away here and the reason seems to be in. This seems to be a universal reason. Happens wherever you have someone who is really special if imagine having someone like the buddha rounder brahma but the buddha is even imagine having the boone around someone that you relying on all the time for advice in practice whether you are among or lakers and someone who has this wisdom to always know what you're supposed to do kind of the parent to the kind of supreme parent always kind of guides are in the right direction. Imagine having someone there that you rely on so fully for laying down the rules teaching the path then one day this person dies. It's bad enough to do as a parent but religion losing someone who is kind of the very points out the very meaning of life everything. Yeah it is field. You can imagine the feeling in the buddhist community the sense of a vacuum the sense of loss. The sense of being something irreplaceable. That has been lost and from that and this is i think very well-known recoil situation. Is that from that then arises. The need to try to understand who the buddha was and then the story is starting to come around is. Why are the buddha passed away. We start to get more stories about the buddha about the life of the buddha who he was All the stories about the life of the buddha came after the buddha passed away in the pilot. Tradition is called the java nitsana. Madonna is like the source georgia other birth stories pass labs the buddha. This is the source of the data. And that is where you'll find the longest the longest exposition on the life of the buddha. But it was written a long time after the buddha. That's why you'll find all the details. About the buddha living in the palace in the large city of couple about two and riding the horse counterpart in jumping over the city walls and then shaving off his hair and then it's all very kind of can see how we can make a movie out of that and then he goes forward and all of that comes in and that is all found in the daughter. Donna all of these things happen after the buddha has passed away and i think it is fair to say it happened as a consequence of the sense of loss that was felt in the buddhist community and from but once you start to talk about the buddha and it's not to think about him from that the disadva- ideal arises because this is really about understanding the past of the buddha. Who was the buddha. Where did it come from how was able to become a buddha. All of these questions have been part of that and then the bodhisattva ideal starts to her. So i think. And i think this is a very personal thing is a very good explanation is that it comes from the sense of missing someone. Lack in the buddhist community sense of need to fill in the gaps in a sense and the whole path arises out of that after the time of the buddha. This is not to say that the what is a path is entirely wrong or anything like that. The vast majority of the buddhist path is almost identical to the noble info path. In that sense it is not wrong but the whole idea of doing things of a multiple lifetime of adding new factors all of that. That is where you start to. Gradually gradually almost imperceptibly imperceptibly move away from the early teachings and eventually lead comes to the point where the bodhisattva ideal becomes the thing to do and everything else becomes kind of pushed by the wayside. Oh to teach things get lost and you're left with something that is much later and not as original so now we have really kind of gone through really. It's okay so okay. So you want to say anything. I don't no but i think there's a good idea. I mean feels good in the human mind to do good purify your mind and then you continue on this path and the sort of leave quite a lot of things out of the noble rightful path out but as a human it feels nice to do good things and you sort of like purifying. You'll you'll mind over the lifetimes continuing on the path. So i can see why it would be nice path live. I think i think too. It's very attractive to people. I think that's very true. So the idea of carrying on. Maybe i can't do not have to carry on but i think i always thought that one of the dangers disadva- path is that it to to easily become something that speaks to the ego. The ego says. yeah. I want to be a buddha yet. What is the best. Why should i you know settled for atlanta miron. What iran. it's like second best. Second-best becomes second best and you want to the highest and it becomes something that the ego very easily grasped onto because it is so high and then of course it's gonna lead in the opposite originality away from the dumber in the sense if the eagles starts to grasp onto it correct. Yeah anyway should. We have meditation break. Yes an gonna use the tortoise quick meditation break. Okay so any questions please. Them you can get ready. We pour the coffee over here. Important important job. No who wants to be a subtle one over here. Slide with the passage where you had the short passage that mentions bodies the term body sutter wandering. Okay can pull it up this one here. Yeah i mean in that short passage itself. It doesn't it doesn't actually indicate that this refers only to his being an enlightened in this life in his in its last legs. I'm just wondering. Was it a context of where the passage came from the lead. You to believe that a because basically the context always we're not talking about his practice after you went forth. So when i was at what before my enlightenment when i was about as i was practicing in this particular way. There's always talk about his practice after he left the home life. That seems to be always the the context and in these things with the exception of their charrier bhutto ceuta five times. It's mentioned it's always in that in that context talking. Yeah as far as i can remember is that that's pretty much it is. Yeah so it's pretty five to ten times altogether in a suit as something like that. Yeah yeah and those mentions like like in that ceuta about the wheel maker. Are those very rare or did they come up you know. I don't know what's what's the sort of idea of how often it comes up where there are mentions of his previous previous life mentioned. Yeah visit quite a few suits is whether it would have talks about. His pass lives but and the question is how many of those are authentic. And how many are not. I think the most authentic one is the suit from the younger kaya precisely because it is so humble incredibly humble that would is kind of wheel riot is kind of the bottom of the social hi arc in india is making wheels for the king you know he was a good win right but apart part of that is very very humble and to me that speaks to authenticity here. It's like the principal again. The idea of the most unusual reading is more likely to be correct. Because who would feel comfortable adding this into the suit as unless it was authentic. Everyone was to praise. The board are making making exception. Not so you have the like the muhoza dozen a suit. The the seventeen as matt is fabulous king. Who lived some time in the past and everything is absolutely fabulous and was it well. That was the buddha in the past life. Yeah that's kind of what you would expect. Because everyone wants to praise the booed. I lift him up and make him somebody special. That's usually the way it works. The mahogany industrial similar. Kind of thing. As whether we're supposedly talks about his past lives. How many are authentic. I think i have my doubts if you know how. Many of them actually authentic past lives so the buddha. Yeah okay but either way. I mean the way you talked about the body repair. It seemed to be that has to be something different from the noble eightfold path. And that's why evidence is all sort of presented that way. But i'm wondering whether or not it's possible to conceive of it as being different that it's always eightfold path. That's just like maybe you're sitting on. The same bus is just a matter on the same road. It's just a matter of when you want to get off the bus. So if that's another way to receive it whether you whether you decided on that i mean it's just much coast but and so but you know it's not like you decide to get out of the the boss. Well it does depend on your aspiration right so that would depend on whether you aspire to be in our hunter aspire to be of fully awakened buddha and that would that would determine when you want to pull the core. That's like okay. I'm getting off the bus now. But i'm just i'm just putting that out. There is another way to conceive of but there is a lot of similarity. And i think you're right that basically the same. It is the same thing. Yeah i mean in the party. Talk about the ten power me's under the six parameters and and they are in many ways. Similar are few differences. You have the other town. Apparently for example which is not really found in the ordinary pather. The tunnel means like determination is always like the perfection of determination. And if you ask us umbrella it it would like that at all. Probably there is that. But i think the biggest problem with is not so much the content of the out the more. The problem is with the idea of the path that goes over different lifetimes. I think that to me is the biggest problem with it. Because it assumes that you can somehow lay you can establish a seed within yourself that sprout in each lifetime we carry on with the same thing but is that we d possible. The buddha certainly didn't teach that and if the buddha didn't teach it is it worth while taking the risk. That is even possible. I i find it. I find it a very risky business. Once you move outside of what the taught in my opinion on moving into risky territory. Because you're saying that it's the idea is that in. The path is over many lifetimes. Being that it's pure danger that it's sort of guaranteed that it will unfold like you know whatever four years of college you know of like that. Is that what you mean or but the idea that you have to cultivate over many lifetimes because even in the ira hunt path is seems quite common to think of it as oh it might take you many lifetimes. Don't worry you don't make it this time because you know it's hard just keep working at it and you do have to cultivate these various qualities whether you call them parham user not just whatever qualities that are part of the path it could take a while so i don't find that idea so but the thing is yes. You may have to do that. But there's no guarantee that you will be able to do it. Depends on the causes. The buddhadev is says that. I wish you think about the path for the buddha says. That now is urgent. Now you have the opportunity okay. So let's say that you're lucky and you can end up in a suitable place in your next live with suitable teachers. Then you can carry on. But there's no guarantee that you were able to do that. It's very it's very uncertain. But if you're lucky maybe you will be able to carry on the future life so sometimes this is said in the sense that you you optimize the possibility of carrying on future life by practicing well in this life by learning the teachings properly and then you will be drawn to those things in the future life but the uncertainty is just so great and there isn't any ultimate is not automatic yet. It's not as if there is a path laid out what is automatic. You may vary quite possibly you will lose it all and you want to carry on that. That was your main objection is the sense of it. Being guaranteed then the other question is something at some point about how like the buddha. It's just timing and bang just happens. Wouldn't i mean nonetheless. Did it require him to have cultivated. I mean to in order to become someone fully awake. And you can't just be an average joe who happened to be in the right time. The right place. requires qualities that had been developed. So so even though he might have been like got cars. He's like obstreperous. See the buddha and that kind of thing but still he he must have cultivated other qualities or something to meet him ready so that when he did hear the buddha was like. Okay got it. You know very good something. Like my i guess my feeling is that. Even though there isn't a preordained paths there still a sense of the buddha even our buddha practicing over various lifetimes cultivating qualities. Anyone practicing anyone kind of point with an ordinary person. You see someone in this life practicing. Well then we'll do that for all kinds of reasons nothing to do with a path which is going in a certain direction and not emitted speed of circumstances that would make you be kind in this life and the same thing with the buddha hit. Yes he probably did the right thing in the past life but not as an outcome of a practicing particular path or practicing in a particular direction just that it happened to be in the right circumstances so we develop good qualities just like people in this life happened to be in the right circumstances so you practice you improve your good qualities. But it's not the idea that the buddha practice the path it must have been practicing past life if you say he must have been in the past. It sounds like he's on the path but that's the way but but if it did practice in the past life is just like everyone in this life in the world here. Yeah lots of people here. Practice a good way. Lots of people are not buddhist practice and good nothing to do with that. they're on a path. It's just that situation is like that to put in aspire the buddha in a sense he didn't have in the past until until this last life. Leonard in aspire to be put. I just aspire to find the solution to death suffering. Yeah that's perations anyway. That's how i see things and you're very welcome to disagree about going to my my view of this and to me the most powerful thing is just that the buddha never taught this kind of path to kind of really really powerful and So i think if we're going to be disciples the should full on. Yeah anyway. it's kinda stop there because i think otherwise. We're going to be going on for a long time. So let's try to find where we got to but it's up apart ending thing. Okay so actually. There's a maybe we'll take this one later on this one from outside the century we'll take this otherwise would take too much time. Let's move onto the next myth or misconception and this is quite another one which is fairly common. You may not have heard this before but actually it is fairly common nonetheless. And that is. The noble eightfold path is only for the areas in other words the noble ones and it doesn't really apply to anyone else and the reason why people have this idea is because of this thing coming up next year. Yeah so so. This is the definition of right view. Right view is the first factor of the noble. Full pop some. Dt right here and this is this is how it is almost always defined knowing about suffering the original suffering the cessation of suffering and the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering here. This is how it is defined and if you look at that definition then the fool knowledge of the four. Noble truths only happens when you become a noble person. Yeah a stream entry. Whatever that is the way you get that knowledge show then going from that people say what only when you become a stream enter. Are you practicing the noble full path but but that is a bit problematic if the only practice for path when you become a stream enter and how do you become a stream entry and this obviously kind of begs the question. What happens then. Kind of problematic territory here so. I think that that is to my mind. It's over reading this passage true full knowledge or the four. Noble truths happens when you become a stream entry but you have partial knowledge before that. Yeah we all have some idea about suffering. Don't go too close to the fire. Otherwise we get burnt. Yeah don't don't get too many immoral and bad things because we get burnt bad. Treat other people's badly. Yeah we may have some idea of the limitations of the sensory world around us and we want to move more towards the spiritual life so we have already some idea about these things and some of about the path and all of these factors. I think that is the right way to interpret this. It is not that the path start when you become an hour noble one and before that you haven't got a clue it is more like a gradual movement. You have some idea you know these things partially and because you know them partially you can practice. The path partially not fully partially. The difference is really that when you become a noble wonder when you become a stream entry then you practice the path fully because you have seen these things fully you are always on the path. The path becomes part of you. Yeah it is kind of part of your mind. Your mind is always directed in the right direction. Because you know these things prior to that before you are extreme winter. Sometimes you on the path sometimes. You're not sometimes you're partially on the path. Sometimes you are not at all so it's more variable but the more you know the more you are on the path so important point because i think if we if we think is only for the noble ones it becomes very discouraging and it's very very difficult to really try to practice this path. Well only thing that's why when you become a stream stream and streaming that You're not gonna lose the path until then you. You might next lifetime not come to the right time to follow the path anymore whether you have the determination or not. It doesn't really help you if you haven't practiced if you stream you are industry and then of course and then you have something with you. You have something internal with you that you bring to the next life and you are because you are independent of the external circumstances. The path will continue in your next life but for other people who are dependent on external things for the past to continue. It is much more much more problematic. Yeah this is your. You're going to click through this one. I don't remember okay. So this is from the sonya taneeka. I have attained realized the supreme freedom through proper attention Effort the is talking to the monks and laypeople. You two should attain realize the supreme freedom through proper attention proper effort this previously. Molly was saying that this is not for areas that put us at everybody. You should put the effort. Put the right attention of proper effort and follow him and instead of this is not just he wasn't just talking about the areas that you have to have the right right right view to just to begin the path and that proper attention and pro is equivalent to the noble info. Path i hope so hope so yeah better be otherwise. Okay jawa okay. So that was a myth number three finished. Then we'll get onto myth number four and this is the idea that the factors can be practiced in any sequence and this is quite a common understanding. I think you know. Sometimes you hear people. Let's get on with the mindfulness practice. We sit down. We'd be mindful of everything and then that is a practice in his own right. That's all we have to do. Really be mindful and then things kind of move in the right direction. Yeah and maybe we can come back to right view and rally drawn if we feel like it and if you don't feel like it we can maybe just leave it out altogether. Perhaps we'll talk about that later on her. So this idea that there is no real sequence in the path you can just kind of put the factors together according to pretty much what you feel like you can start at the end and what that means is can be very problematic if you have this kind of wrong idea because it means that you sit down you think yeah. I'm going to get some idea. I'm going to get into the jonah's straightaway. Why because that is my birthright to get into the jonah's and that is problematic. Yeah i've seen this happen with quite a few times people come to a momentary. I heard about adam bram. Here's a jonah teach. I've come to practice the jonah's yeah this is kind of this actually happens and i'm not joking. I know people specific said this to me. I've come to this monastery. And i'm gonna get jonah's within four years or else or aleve or that. I'm going to get upset with as roma whatever but that is the wrong way of thinking about it. Yeah because you don't know how long it's gonna take to cultivate these things you do have to practice things things in the right sequence. If you're meditation is not going very well. Then it's a very big advantage to understand why 'immigration isn't going well in my experience when people meditation isn't going very well say. Oh maybe it's because. I am watching the meditation or object in the wrong way here. It's just a breath right. How many ways can you watch. The breath is very simple thing. The breath is not a very complicated thing. Yeah the breakfast and it goes in and out and you watch that. That's really all this to it. So but this other kinds of things people saying oh yeah. I'm not really letting go properly. And but the answer very often is not about how you do the meditation or about letting go watching the breath the wrong way or whatever. There's a little bit to that because of course it can do it wrong. But the main reason why people don't make progress in detention is because they haven't understood that there is a sequence in this thing but it doesn't work you have to go back to the earlier factors. How good is my morality. Yeah i remembered. Morality includes your mental morality. How much cleanness do. I have been my life do i. How do i think about other people do. I generally have compassionate understanding and metadata whereas others and my generally a peaceful person. What is my intention of. What is my view view. What underlines all of these things so it matters enormously so for. That reason is very important that you remember this. Yeah we talked about on the first day last saturday. The idea that things come in sequence and then you can start to understand how you can improve your meditation practice because you understand that. There is a sequence to these things i did. The mentioned last time also feedback from later factories. But this is the main. This is the main force forward without the earlier factors. The later ones not very stronger. That is how you find out. Yeah so right. View is a very important one strengthened right view and all of these things kind of fall into place. What is the purpose of the noble full footpath goes very large part of it is to have more right viewer so this whole thing falls into place. All of this really comes down to practical matters. Everyone to be practical about this coarser so this is very useful to kind of remind you what is going on. Look back into this thing and then you get some idea of where you are missing out and where you are not missing out and then you will get things in the right sequence. Hopefully her so i'm not going to go through those again because we looked for those before right. So the noble way papa starts with the right view which is needed to understand why this should be followed. So why do you even practice. Why do you even want to be a buddhist. Why what are we doing here so you have to get your view straightened and That easy well it is if you just come to the classes. It's basically one of the key. Which i mentioned last time when i like the idea that we we have. We have teachers. We have the kellyanne amigas in this path and in buddhism. You don't really have to study many things. Inspiration doesn't have to leave to this. If you inspired and we'll find week these things come later then. Everything follow from that way. You get inspiration. Is your teachers. So just deposits from somewhere and. It's a nice feedback loop one okay so. The right view is the forerunner and guide for the rest of the path. So that's just that it's the beginning but it also guide to every every way into the path so you premiered to showing all the factors. So now you're maybe you you. Mindfulness is not correct. Your your meditation. It's not working. Why well you you view now. It's getting straightened because of a temper. Molly the put buddha's teachings then it featured back into the loop into the beginning maybe into the right effort may whatever it's missing that feeds into your back into the meditation and hopefully that leads into your right john. S right stillness. So beautiful but you have to have a in the path so it's not just the beginning but he's also to all everywhere into the path. Okay i don't know what else to say. What is it. it's good. Timing is actually good time. Yeah so we have a few minutes left if we want before we break for lunch. Is there any more questions anything anyone would like to comment on. We can take the last few minutes to discuss any outstanding issues. If you read this question coming out so well yeah. That's a good idea. that's questions. Okay if we like to go to movies and have a beer on the weekend. Can we still be headed in the right general direction with the noble rightful path. Go beyond the movies. Are we still heading into noble. Fight for nurses doesn't say would be your agendas wealth Well okay why not. How how long do you have to have your previous beer before you can go question or maybe the next morning you feel nice and peaceful. Because you can't do anything you ever hangover and you just sit down and they go to the movies. Let's start with that one. I mean all of us. We i mean. Even time of the buddha there was even the monks seemed to be nance with seemed to be going into the country fairs and all that and it wasn't always contended monks and you shouldn't be doing that but delay people definitely did it and they were. These things always have existed these. When i've noticed that when you kept practicing more and more they seem to. You seem to lose interest on their naturally. So it's not like you have. The restraint in the sense restrained. -ment it. Is you know it's integral part of this path. But i think quite often he might be too restrictive for some people. Sometimes you just need to go to movies and just forget about it. If you that idea of people who have you know you you to you limit yourself too much and then you not happy. If you're not happy it's difficult to let go. It becomes this part of you become too acetic too fast. You slowly slowly letting letting go seem if do not maybe not interested in certain things anymore. Maybe you go to movies but you don't go to the nightclub maybe you do go to the nightclub but you don't go to the i don't know what's next i probably anyways gradually crutchley and fall off. Sometimes you're like okay. You have alcohol and all that alcohol in itself is sort of the second part of this question alcohol itself. It's maybe not so path bad but it lead to into direction. It's one of those things which is difficult to let call it so such an integral part of our society. These days the alcohol that you think it's it's okay and that's why i was saying earlier but that in certain places practice they wanna leave these things out like the in. You want to leave the alcohol. Priests out that okay. It's it's fine to drink alcohol. While the buddha put down these precepts training training precepts for us to follow that you are. Actually you have a your purity of mind will sort of follow from that if we start leaving things out way. Do we end up. Can you have a line item prom. Has things like okay. You can have a little bit of beer. I have to be as a week and doesn't matter. Is it okay to have a little bit of a cheating your wife or your husband. Is it okay to cheat your wife a little bit. Is it okay to kill a little bit where you set the limit. Where is your mind. where is your your level. At the moment. You may be lying a little bit. You may be drinking a little bit but you are aiming towards mind. Which is you. don't have to wear when you let the mind go. You don't think about it you don't have to you. Don't contemplate those things. Whatever the object in the mind. What in front of you. That's your that's your mindful. That's your object of meditation and if you object is remorse. It's really difficult to go. We tried to let those things before they. They don't follow you into the meditation another question. I along quickly. Also just comment briefly on that one and i think one of the important things on the path is to understand that it is gradual. And you have not to do things to fast that basically saying what you said but to try to kind of allow these things almost to evolve naturally so it feels right not to do too much entertainment. It feels right not to drink beer or alcohol for me. The idea of used to drink many. When i was a student thirty years ago or whatever it is time now thirty five or whatever and you know the idea of being drunk and not kind of feeling that your mind is sort of out of control to me now seems very unpleasant. The whole idea just seems really. I don't even want to contemplate. And if the moment you feel that is unpleasant because your mind is out of control. You don't want to drink anymore. The reason why we drink is all kinds of all kinds of social reasons or maybe you need to relax or whatever but once you start to see in the right way you naturally withdraw the same thing with entertainment if you start to see how you lose your mindfulness when you go to see a movie or whatever and this is the buddha specifically says we go to see a shows. The biggest problem with that is that you lose your sense restraint you get drawn into the action and you can lose your sense of place and time because drawn into the movie that you lose your ability to really be in charge of mind when the hero cries you cry and when you know what it's like you go to the movies and so and that is the problem but don't don't be too strict on yourself don't kind of make life a joint joyless affair do it gradually. You know there's no it's not as if you're done anything terrible by watching a movie or anything but feel could gradually let them move in the right direction. Instead of watching television eight hours a day seven hours a day yeah improvement. That is kind of thing you do things. Gradually you feel things out in the right way and then it becomes natural becomes easier. You know that what you're doing is is right. Yeah quite often. We see people who come back to the path and they said yes i. I was doing that and they were doing meditating. Like let's say two hours a day if miss two hours today you know one. And a half. Then they have to two and a half tomorrow and then become so restrictive that they feel obliged to certain things and it's so restrictive. And you you you give up some willpower outings inspiration. It's not happiness. yeah okay. I just read quickly. I think this might not take so long to be. I'm eddie from indonesia initiative. Now he's not ready. Maybe what does put us what is put. Put us view about the spirit world. They are also supernatural power shoes most importantly what is the buddhist view about god. Okay okay what does it put aside about. Spirit word world. And what is the buddhist view about got. This is definitely. It is interesting thing that quite often been asked i deal with builders quite often and the question arises to you believe in god and what did we say the spirit world and it's difficult sometimes. It's like do you believe in god and are you. Just say no. End of the conversation. And i've had those questions sometimes coming up and we do have them not just one. God god's many calls perhaps but the so that sort of ties in together with the spirit world dupree to those. Do we pray for them. I don't know no. Yeah dispirit world and the gods but it's sort of for article hand in hand. I don't know what to say about it really well. The spiritual is certainly an integral part of the buddhist teachings. Yeah and if you read the suit as the word of the the idea of various kinds of spirits is fundamental to the buddhist outlook the idea that you can be reborn into all kinds of situations and that includes of course the spirit world and as many spirit world is very broad and it can be all kinds of spirits. Happy spirits miserable beards super duper happy spirits and all of these kinds of things. And that's very much part of the buddhist practice so yes certainly this is part of with is in fact would not be the same without it because it would reduce kind of the whole idea of rebirth and being reborn in different realms or whatever it would reduce that down to almost something which becomes far too limited to make sense out of this after the potential for human happened this and suffering here. So if you're going to have a proper idea of come on how good come my leads to real happiness. You almost need the idea of a spiritual spirit world to be able to make that possible can be reborn and miserable state or a happiest with a human body. There's a limited to how much happy you can be because this body is a bit of a pain in the pain anyway so that is very much what about gold then so this really comes back to the definition of god unusually in most religions the idea of god. What they mean is a creator. God a god that creates the universe and creates humanity and creates individuals and that sort of god is not part of the buddhist teachings in fact the buddha specifically said that such a does not exist such god there is no because that's such that kind of god would be permanent entity because always be there standing behind existence and making things exist so it kind of requires a permanent entity in the universe and says there is no such thing as no permanent entity everything is impermanent nature turning around an exist but because it is a spiritual spirit world and some of these kids are can be very glorious and beautiful and bright and powerful compared to human beings they have some of the qualities you would expect a god to have. Yeah and for that reason because they have some of those qualities you can call them. Little gods yeah goblets goblets. Is that a word like god. It's supposed to come for lunch time. Okay okay so time out very good. 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07.03.2021. Like Franny Jeffers, but better.

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07.03.2021. Like Franny Jeffers, but better.

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Toronto just who game was fantastic. Take on the back of the show and period saying it. Lovely lovely lovely to have you on our listeners hockey well and and join this limousine sunshine. We seen to be begin package with We are here to chat free topics. We're gonna go a destination unknown Holland messy david. Alibaba brunetti fernandez as what candidate to strongly could be on the movies. This summer we can pick out could be best spots. Party is going to be named future heads young talent. We've gone for kind of a hidden talent here and there In fact had to straighten jimmy out possess me does not come. Jerry knows you teddy. Wasn't that is conflict. Obscure will yeah. Sorry jimmy young adults yeah absolutely. Yeah and funding free. We're going to go in and and kind of look dismantling look Possible spurs setup. Where was seen emergency Bail has is really kind of an staffer. Performance gives glimmers of of maybe good level madrid but against opposition. Is that opportunity for marina to kind of put together squad worthy of all kind of finds the top full and And you rightly points so destination nyangoma To you will. Where do you think the gods to go with ellen. Brown harland feel that. He's the pinnacle this and We've seen today that Mob and yesterday. That was a list of apparently ten clubs that came out The can't afford me aware of confined to the ten clumps can afford algebra harland and by in were in that but apparently they are confirmed as not in the rice and they do not want to pay the money because lebanon. Ski is apparently quite good at scoring goals. Says they need him. Which is not situations being. I think the city rumors strong the sky blues strong with this one. And i think it's almost like i said last week feels like pets. Fake it out football and he's like yes potentially completed i think if he gets out umbrella holland of front i. How do you improve the team. I think that's probably the only way you can do. It is scary if he goes there. Have you yeah. What were you pull in. I'm gonna combat. You will because all off guard to harry's doesn't think he he would work city. But i wanna i wanna hear possibles but teddy whether you are what he suggests Sort of the sort of like the gossip What would you call it. Sort of Also cool page on. They was saying that clubs would have to move heaven us. They would sign helen from russia. Dolman but again. I have to agree with well. I think my city is probably the best option for him may on the pep guardiola who's obscene woke cost manager and i think they are just a couple of plays from being one of the best is an i think centre forward. The of one of the best sides of them but I think centerfold something they could redo is surge where contract and cabriolets not being the premier probably number number nine that is going to school twenty dollars a year by would want so. I think that would make sense to him. Neither options just staying brush. Dolman seeing how far they get in the champions league this year. And how will they do Lost if the bundesliga. I think there's a good chance to statement. Do you think there's a chance that we want to qualify for the champions league this out more. No they have have a in cool connor gladbach palladium teams all capable. An capably managed to possibly pus. Found was an honor to even have enough. Okay but if you don't qualify for the champions league You need handan type of money author from funding. From champions league. Qualification will sell best players ceo. Say at that. Losing i think definite javanese possibly in europe every game played behind closed doors dortmund. Are the club. Losing the most money really haywood. They sell holland'll sunshine coast conceivably see buffets. Doing some work for me is next at marco zork with sally aachen children before he did. The american dire nephews got kids. I don't know you have to look at year. Raina and them To know the players in the smart enough to make news. I don't think the repa- don't think dortmund never wet themselves so deeply to play at that but the market voice who has left a deep deep affinity that that is that model unlock. The most elite level is mobile. Isn't it done every time i left. Teddy I think it'd be really great if he stayed that. And if sanchez state there as well and there must be an element of them. Conde thinks maka rosa coming in. We're going to be here. Old players like rhino gonna be a year older. We could definitely push by and do something special if we stay together for a couple of years but and this day and age this sunshine needs to move the prime minister league to get into the england team note. Does he need to do that. Unnoticed become a global superstar. Bundy's leagues on the rise. That's really really exciting. Teams like levies in clapback staccato. Look really awesome. Moving forward would say what tonight a get the money aspect of it and i get the model but it would be amazing if it did stay together go agree on so nichols on going jimmy. Oh i want to dive in. Because everyone the point i was going to make the point i was gonna make wall suit with ninety nine shots formula until i'm holding myself together. No assignment. Protest is never as powerful is in a podcast ultralights. In fact i was trying to do that. unless released. where mutants heavy and mocks audio them. Government i think club get pigeonholed. Us selling clubs. And i think bruce you dortmund currently are probably the most successful selling club around That must come a point where they shifts because it just becomes boring one clubs. The main clubs are selling clubs and it goes on white congress. It open now. Just be one of the big boys who attract the players who are going to stay there for raise New manage come in woes stolen point already not like did make so we could see that in a previous port but they put so many young players who give him give him a year or two. They all stay around that club. They could own greatness and boy munich. Dominance of the bundesliga could be no more so then there must be. I appreciate you're saying about the the finances that If it if the losing money with games played behind door what do they. if they don't qualify for the champions league coupled with they might need the plan being the be. Be to shift on some of these guys you would hope the play for them. Suddenly with the new manage it coming in that they can sit in there and just building more. Let's go and not have to rebuild in areas where they've they've got quality. I'm welby to agree with the sentiments on fit thing to sentence abby about Dolman stronger luck paying. We'll be stronger again. That's just the nature of the beast and they're not position house which is pretty face. this is this mark. This is what i feel. So just put it to you because jimi jimmy Locked him stain. Dominant you without congress. Is that what you are. I think that's my sentimental heart saying that's where he should be. I think my head pro-peace says he was wrong but i'd love him to stay there and in city auckland the person that sits. You should tell you that you carry on. I'm i'm was wondering is this. I'm in holland in holland is to go to city or do you think that city school most of the thomas certain type of goal and i think most of that goes Goes in which You autistic oh. Creative in processes is inhibited. In the importance of scoring a goal from says specific point because who of scoring goals oeser goes that holland schools and a lot of time. He's kind of he's running out galway's facing go part me when his sauna play would suit but also weather actually him as a personality as a person would want to have what we're talking about. We have harmed. Because he's literally hoffman. Hoffman she latino thousand junkie. He's going to be the team on thousand in amman see-saw napa featuring a goal a month because all of that goes around the six yard box. And you can't get started by a cutback so a dozen element of when's latin. He did. I think he did once pasta. And it didn't work out on a personal e i just. I just wonder whether the weather hin gums. Chelsea and existed in that sphere and the to cool while to work with name on back pay income similar talk player. That weather is all about you. Know very much about ego with players sparked goodhue bottom them just saying what a few And then maybe couple years chelsea then it goes back to bay unit because of had time and danny becomes the next day needed gluck hotshots five seasons. Finding certified goes sees nothing. I think he looks evanger. Have a doesn't touch chelsea of about. Oh i think to coon possibly doesn't have the longevity that guaranteed because no one doesn't chelsea and just to retort to your Manchester city like reasons to go there. So peps big failure so far. Is the champions league if months to syfy holland is schooled. Ten obviously goals in seven appearances. Fabrizio dortmund quickest player at the to get ten goals. So he'll take him to the final. He'll take him to the cup so it. So you're saying the sign that pat would surrender. His is his methodology full. I think he fits. Pats methodology pavley after the way he has evolved his game and his Stunts in a couple of assists announced on seem cut in on his left from the right Sanchez drifts around the left kuala law and they'd say h other up I think he would be you know. He's a complete striker. Doug kids standard six box pickup goals and if anyone can be anymore and i think he would be like sept. one thousand he can data if you wanted to and yes. They will put so many bulls on a plate for him to school. The he'll get involved in that play and he's got the ability to in the technique in the class. Today as well as anyone. I was gonna say if you look. So you're saying that he doesn't play the same way as monster different types of if you look at how liverpool of done this year if you look at how they played last year and how teams like meister adopt to face them if team doctor to face manzullo liberal would hallam coming into score different types of goals held onto school when scoring the tap ins and walk and walk in the boss the box with the alarm a different route to go. Yeah hundred percent and yes it would. But i don't know. If pap is very wedded to his audiology of a player and and the differences that when he got to pay munich levin of see was already there was full. Full pat already. They're already that. And he was down or the feature that goes is noticeably. could kind of usher him out. I'm just saying if looking at pappy is probably new ground for him because he's never had to bring in an elite striker and to work with the only time has done is So i'm really interested. But i do think it would. Do you think maybe it will seek stream on harland. But i don't think he you get this move Umbrella holland in muncie. Because they just don't embodied Date i think hayes. Ace was brought in to be not superstar kobe. I think the reputation he had everyone thought he was going to be that Nothing injuries as well as probably development I think he probably didn't develop into the planet that everyone thought Ceo i think he probably really fancies going a products like harland. He would show seat dependent. We should say moons on three dot. We have dwelt quite quite long holland. However he's probably the pick of the bunch so we might just skip around a bit quicker. Where with the other three. But let's start with that. Also pretty decent player lee massey surely with the The arrest of for tomato monday Probably if that doesn't how long and messy that maybe it's time to go. I don't know what does so Soaked jimmy left come to you you know you think messy is going next yes j with enough i think i think parchment needed the moments competitive root for some early rocking up about portu- wondering about us especially when it easy i just think Going to be out the french league but messy do every other week. Day to me on the farmer's league it'd be nice way for a thirty four year old lionel messi will be thirty four comes on exceeded it just be lovely way for him to go out couple of seasons they're running around Yeah yeah peaking anymore going to missouri. Same some no. I wasn't thinking. Pse pse shelf the I think you're welcome dot. I think man city or other people i think mindset the Out the obvious choice if he does leave barcelona with aussie pet being in charge a lot of money. They're like playing. The prime is probably always something like renaldo did it. And he reckoned he wouldn't mind so attesting himself in the league. Maybe saudi get impasse. His best buy thinking still do while in the league. But i was just looking at a quote today in the one of the presidential candidates so bosses under said one laporta and he said messy will leave in the summer of one hundred percent if he doesn't win the election so he doesn't win at macy's leaving has allied i as a governor. Who's going to win the election on on the on the back of previous histories for much loved. yeah but yeah i guess the question is whether a rather we get hit in england top. Amazing would you. Would you think what you stunned with. Massey's next move. Yeah i was going to say months to sit you as well if they didn't get holland. Nothing qb amazing Some teddy very much on the same wavelength tonight But if he doesn't carry that just as name somewhat different of will say that he should get a news boy now Doubt they super cool in it. That would be yeah. It was real madrid. Yeah just thinking well. I'd like to enter on to say and just play in just to stop up there for nowadays stuff as we're nowadays get weaker and weaker win a couple of rolling in. Yeah i'm just wondering how much stats or additional. That would yeah if if they did On chambal yeah. He would love to see him in an ac milan show. That would be absolutely beautiful And just just some. The comic nature of a milan show was just looks. Good on set in place But realistically can go on. Sorry joe i. I recognize them it. You can do the job for cruelty as well. Plane and being nasty nearly said cruelly. Second cat is publicly. psg yeah often. I think that might be a spot for a but in a sense Who had come exist with those name on and behind him while he hasn't been in the champions league since the as a Last time using sauna was twenty seven years old when they beat in the final. Papa was planned fever. twenty fifty. Guess he's just got way up was his show of of getting into champions league final on yeah author is it. Is it pat. Or is it luck. The brilliant survives name or an by his hot just with him into a frenzy Goes all right onto david. Alibaba absolute legend over obey munich. Defender is a nineteen concerts requirements. Unease property Pfaff you teens suit. Obviously alabama has a great deal of teams interested in We're where would you. Where would you put. 'em alibaba much. Sit now magic going to say that he would be. He would be so pathway for months. It's so perfect. Never going to happen. The a really really really wanted to take always left him left the he. Even money's really young. They left back. He was so good that australia slightly. We need to play midfield. Just say you can boss the game for us I think he would be the problems. That united have sense back. He would actually solve them. He's special class Teddy and you're not allowed to say muncie. Can i say if mine say did sonnen right. Alibaba pay stars can sell not as so good that is like lesson unreal defense on. So does he go to left back. In scenario yeah probably replaces janko or place but Who yeah raja. Right but i think i'll obas focused enticed by i genuinely had monsters my favorite option but i will say that I think chelsea's interested more. I can't see them again. But i think she was to go. The thought would make them a- a stronger team just show up. I think going forward and going backwards. I just think they've become. I think he's a play. That could run the game for them. And i think he's better than the likes of georgina and I think yeah. I think he could game from them from like a whole mistral. Jimmy mazzy not even as needed trying to be really quick the last one livable. No way spurs curly guys doing a play that guy you know just just very quick levy is now abandoned. All reasonable nature. He pays fifty million dollars for land deal and he will have show same marina in his ear whispering oliver. We'll have jose maria as his manager. So why would he go. The your place still speak call you. Marina grill fatoumata. Probably oh sponsored by top eleven. Yeah yeah maybe make but on monday la see him. Yeah they could just spend loads on as an aide imply Fits mode and not sense and lovely pain busey took to bail. You stays for another year loan for this twenty five million and a plunges versus massive debt. But that's again off that stadium and end up ground sharing. Yeah dhabi shower them all right. Let's give bruno the quick wall. Sober presidency this Shots rappaport long. I don't think he should maeve. Because if he's going to get your rumored trade aren't think he's very appealing so awkward. Stay at united Agree go ogle bustle in a written down bossa Kind of subject into the author of a new project without messy high. One song for fossil. Yup just like massey's not going to be that as braithwaite staying bruno announced fatty yeah. That'd be nice to think. The barcelona team is going to be very young and messy gays. They are gonna have to have a repeat sessions. You're not it's time line is better with brunei than boston. Bosnians but i am desperately trying to cling onto the captain. My captain say. Did you even did you. Just like i'm not. I'm not thinking of ways going to go. Yeah just put that song on. Please don't go that's good. Yeah teddy you the same. I didn't stay out united nothing else. Yeah get i'll just think it may have more interested in that season and the beginning they if it could launch general build something. They're gonna release the they moved. But yeah all right Lovely stuff guys what we can look enough quick break business. I'm moving back the To teach young talents social speech had young talent it was kind of at some point baton and have a look at some plays in europe and field so less open at the call. Teddy happened done. Who is much as with what we know. There is seven right but less less less how them listened on go to obscure the main reason i felt it was obscured because i didn't realize he wasn't like twenty six. But that some pager neta wolves. He's only twenty years old ice twenty years old. He's got five five assists this year. And he's just i mean having this year which is a big loss going forward falls but he is really stood up in his place Without with unlocking like a quality owner striker without him as they just so good to watch you know he's always look into be as quick feet and he got when he gets the chance he finishes very well for lack of a winger almost and he's just another quality young portuguese player to add to that squad. They've got going into the next year and world cup where they are going to be exciting to watch. Sorry i was just telling anyone neta as well. I think he's exactly almost exactly the same point when i see him play. He looks so mature he so composed he looks like the say best player on that team in cab. Yes he he's. I'm busy player in waiting. I think we'll probably similar kanemoto whether happy to develop these players and sell them on. He could come. The really big figure is his account. His mom tells him to take shots. He she encourages him to shoot up. And if a great shout and play of surely destined for big things. Jimmy floyd where we are. He took off politics for pronunciation after joking around. There wasn't gonna go with hungarian name. Miam- dominic zuber's lie. Currently i'll be logic. Wolves are red. Bull soap spoke Sentiment filter twelve games. Full goes seven assists Also were off through east ghassan four and a half year deal with logic. Obviously the Salzburg machine so rose on in supplying themselves hungarian international. I think we'll be a very exciting in player to twenty now Wounded league champions league experience wants to watch noise out. Might just love the the like sick gravy. Chain of talent started about the next foods that salzburg salzburg happening in mixed off intern. Step to koi law. Yeah i call latin player. And i'm not gonna the pronouncing his surname want to decrease for it but Yeah it's just called the with fourteen goals and four assists in sixty. Yeah yeah song for sandra decent. What eighteen twenty million. Or something. Like that i think so. Yeah for salzburg after lawmen. Yeah yeah obviously oversee confident. His voice brings a table. We'll what about you man. He was he jumps out. You pay well. As i said is numb st- around a ridiculous amount players start off just into a whole of jerry dokie highlights because i'll say nothing but i ended up after during the hours research senior. Leads something everyone knows about leads. I someone that's still ever knows about someone who really really liked to watch alexander. Isaac socio that ended up watching the four three that they Beat madrid the bonnabel. Which is really weird because the first game was the ages where there were fans but he scored two goals and i think he was really really good last night. Any color reminds me of games a little bit like him. Dominant covet learn whereas connor. This strike does lots for the team. Really link up play house. Kind of everything is really fast. Drops like the shades of los amino. Paps doesn't drop as deep but really technically gifted but he he starts goals this season and i think Yeah he he could probably be a center forwards in a four three three which top teams a plan or forty three. One if you have like amana and a asala dot com wide for its side of him. I think he's as good as anyone. Nothing he could play for. Top five league winner. Nice occasionally just hop out just quality. Forward donate sweden. Just yeah just. I'm wanting to hit you with absolute top-drawer now often just one day. It's going to be going to be a real treat. Yeah we love you. See on. On not vein. Well i'm not gonna deal with more luck my reuter. The essentially given crates bit more established anti another round or cia. The one km cross yesterday but Foreign words who is seventeen place related. Houston i think i actually widely watched his debut. He came on as a sub on think. It was look this for life. But i think it was when we were we. Were doing up under sleeker brats piece last year watching. Chris came out the lockdown. Yeah yeah present. It was some not that and come on sixtieth minute or something and just like. Who's this guy like you really confidence in his sixty seven to think us still seventeen nine but was there a younger seventeen accord you terribly. Ill incredibly composed on the ball. You know just know bits here and and slowly but surely being able to tap into him more and more because yet now feature within the by lightish inside who are annoyingly locks to splutter as they always do. Mrs may question of p. Ball she always seems to to flounder. Yes so far. A star in nineteen games this season. Four goals for the cysts to to watch him. He loves loves to draw shoulder like jewel. The press beat the press complaints in lovely balls plays lovely threw balls also kind of that little bit extra be man go wonky one cup some ground. I don't think he's really exciting. Yeah you. I think if you're a young pirate later and you in really really could spice to mature and develop and and he's he just looks like it's almost like they don't really miss koi habits that much like they do but the dropoff hasn't been so severe which which is quite impressive overruled but i think versus played quite nice role considering. He's seventeen years old and not in in preventing a huge downturn came from a law and she do random con of yes got a smart more careful because they wanna get moines in. That is quite quite so about it. But we'll come back to you. Teddy what was there was another little huge yours off. go sylla's woman geico stood sorry. Said i'm glad you out there. Suitable ships phonetically. Read it out for twenty one years old. And he's playing stuck up eleven goals and three assists. And i think he's been moved from a wing back to more of a forward and he has just adapted very nicely uneducated Percentile starts thing. Be ref which is a thing of beauty and he's just in the ninety nine percents for pretty much everything. There's a lot of green lines and a lot of tics and i was watching. What highlights and scored this now standing versus minds. Where he dribbled. I think it was eighty two meters and finished against myself against But that is that is worth a watch but yeah he was a he was more sort of more of school congolese. Lover lover of the break shop of showers. That's what we're talking about. Security will conquer is obscure. As i did. Look at the diversity in an effendi town came across talents going to go with in window or window. His left back at that out. He looks really tasty. Really good on the ball really really get pass completion rate to six point six percents for this season Really goods be impressed in the press. a fantastic toddler. The ball to win three tackles putt. Game thirteen crushes per game. I think he's just like a really solid special potentially left barney. You probably crates to or to show creighton actions per game as well which is pretty high for back. I think he kids definitely definitely play. For gems de club does a great show especially in sydney's twenty one out no out mark holland real. Yeah yeah usually. The team is now of daily with liners as well but he's a little older. He looks a special midfielder. Calvin things produ and they're probably the nicest kitten football this year. I would say seen an off. Yeah nice just writing his name down jimmy. He got usual saw. What a guy now. I'm jessica my joined up. Jeff jeffco waters. No i'm gonna go full. The new the new bruno spokesman in lisbon petro gun calibers says based on four point six million from wolves didn't do the wolves he's gone that and but it's very similar They saw. I'm going to show up in season. Before now bruno hoods played sixteen games scored eight assisted seven Mr alvarez in fifteen has scored fourteen unassisted to they see him very much replacement. He's not be all round. Contribute to the bruna wilson sporting team. But he has gone a long way to fill in the hole and at twenty two. Could he go one better than King bruno lobby show love at the play. The i kind of look for a came cross looking specifically. I think it was just scouring. Fbi looking at what essentially what things excite me and players and other young and auto plane a decent amount of minutes And adeel al. Sheesh is out to pronounce his name ideal. Sheesh he is now saying at yen started off at I'm a believer in the all the best players all the best young players in the world play in paris after. What shouldn't that. Greg documentary talk. Resper he's another. Psg in fact. I don't think he's from paris. Books he Us from twelve years old. Is that yesterday. And this is number. Ten compla-. I think he stopped being placed. Long your position at center tastic. Just close control. great sister so far. He took a massive gamble. This is fun things that essentially didn't continues contracts. Psg but it did kind of lights interesting. that he he's very specific demands. It put a few people off. Essentially him one in. It's believed that it's almost twenty four thousand euros or pounds a week which has an eighteen year old in lita was considered congress. Quite a bold statements make arson. We're looking at lost year. Goes insists this year so for fifteen stars in two goals and free assists but his actions show creating actions Really nothing. He's like to point three points. Three point six three point eight show creating actions which actually four four point for the moment for for sanity. So he's he's hit the ground running. It was a gamble be managed by for But i'm quite excited. Eat it featured in the euros for last four fronts under seventeen euros and and he was voted to the second best player financial at ten goals. So yeah quite quite an exciting talent. Say because he told me. Last night i watched an asean westlands before we are alone. Came on and He was the best parent pitch. According to mark he got seven point. Eight out of the match. I don't think can tell because the was in french. i'm not fluent slash bonjour. He advocated ask him did assist and a thought he played for seventy minutes and he played in the hope in front of the defense. Say more like a rope. And he's just so composed slow really belies his age. He's really really exciting. Player could see him play some another. Yeah yeah it's got the flows night nice skies while i am. I think we really to mention to gareth fail territory but listen if you if you know we always for saw about a new kind of young town so if there's any anyone that you think that services to have a look at discuss with lovers please please drop the shout same but if he will stay with us for free. Talk peyot marinho But really mobile. So we just keep on on the good side up to not see much rena told about c shaw town of beneath social. We now get a tool bit more primarily focus with quite nice. Actually it wasn't even my ideas wills idea so glad to jump on board but It's great see cowbell. Happened a resurgence. In the spurs saw it and i and especially with the amount of question marks kind of prolonged. Chris is in that that has a kind of accompanied him and And there's been highs and lows in in him arriving definite high and last question mark survey you got here and analyses to to you actually made me have a benchmark of what type of play we gonna have with bail out which is conduct consolidated and probably necessity With a more attacking conspires full matt. So far I don't say that with basis around a home away performance against wolfsburg and a and a burnley win and some moist. Silent with muncie game. Where where they were trying it and maybe west town But deli is featured as well as the possibility that may be with belan early in the sorta ask people like oria on the wings. That's the best possible way that you could put together oversee with with the policy. Don't delay who in solomon kane. Well let's let's talk bail in you know i know you're a big fan of him in Whereas greed is right now. Is this a fashion. The only thing we've got we've got more to come now A game plan ready because when this is okay can often the basically george said it's sad to see bae. Oh and you know. He's people these yesterday. Man luster is been passed. If he is now he's he's been injured. He's not been playing at madrid. He's been treated horrendously for someone that has been a hero in champions league finals for them i just think he's an absolutely amazing plan. Why do we have to in this country on his welsh in the uk. What we have to just hate on our own after awhile. I just think it's own way. And also he's come to a tottenham team yet should've been a lovely story but it was never going to be lovely of jose. Marina was the way he took that second go about for ought is so good and then the finish was like just as quality. I think back. I think he's fit change. Wouldn't i think he's back. I think he's healthy. You're not alone even not what your opinion is not in shaking. I am before. I opened my mouth. I'm going to admit the a few months back we were talking about the yata and said at liverpool is not done anything. He's come off the bench for twenty minutes goes we'll he done since then. The proof will be in the put in he then started games and he scored and thankfully jacket. A polyolefin audit repeat source. And it's very nice. So i'm i'm well aware of my own flaws. Like dive in here and so go will encourage joe. Back onto the spurs roller. He's up he's down. He's all around all of a sudden we've had a couple of good games. Gareth vows back the wells a much better place and look jerry small inhaler of not seeing them smaller than law. And then that absolately can the the what not gonna fall out joe's world and we're gonna be back where were see weeks ago. We're gonna be picking up taking him flowers and chocolates and just just we will spurs really. Don't get me wrong jimmy. do not back. I think we are on a ticking time bomb until they are prioritize. The europa league is the best chance of making the champions line. No but you know what you know is like if if you've given that little bit of hope that fails if he on the camera around that'd be a buzz flag in i guess it'd be everywhere but what we'll say is he's not gonna be player. What play is. But he's definite player of technical. Its bill to pain. Goes located for kane pass against what you can do is play him and see what happens. I think he needs plan from the start playing. Daddy how much galvin We have a really heavy thing for the next are denied birthday sunday for the next couple because who sacra coming in and we've got the extra match against fulham so managing his load and ensuring that he's kind of kenya fitness as we go in and and yeah i totally. If i'm honest just keep my powder dry rian just seeing where where it goes a. It's gonna take a win in the europa league to qualify for champions league if he plays ali anyplace bail and you orient read. Your fitness a fit. I seen as that his best opportunity to succeed blessing. You will not donate. Did you see well jobs. I did on on sunday. I love this so bravely. When he brought daily on you had shown ali bail with up top imagine that was so many spurs families extremely excited about site and then two minutes later. He pulled halo obsolete fees. Like this could be good. This could be good then off comes buying all joe's as being josaia again. Well i think the i think one of the taddeo feel free to jump in but one of the things i just think is that in order for to play bio you kinda need to play more because moreover just run. He will do a lot of recovery work to do. And that's what trade us. So i don't know whether you get. Get get allie. Then maybe you're not getting enough pressure will crush off the ball. That needs be more than that. It just law of that stuff is just like a terrier saw its aunt gracie is finishes. And what's your thoughts. That was that saying ali bail canaan selm pro being a ridiculous fruitful. But i mean just looking at that squad. Roy keane said today heated argument jamie carragher. They don't have a good scott. And i would disagree with that It just looking at squad on on the south so the mela song bail. Cain bugging more. Call us vinicius. That's a good squad in josie. Marina was planning such a defensive brown football and sorta wasted those players. That was a clip of dally. Coming out the tunnel like saying to his team. Why are we. Why would you defend kicking it long. You know you've got these players you need to use them neon exciting scored. He needs to use them. And i think if he does he will get from a bale of origin. Or the one with the screamers and the the volleys and just the kuala easter will acquire. But you won't get that twenty fourteen thirteen bail back. But i think he can. He plays more exciting brand of football. Erlich site taught him fans and it will bring the best others especially that front three Cain bail song. I was watching the dangelo verses concert that was on the weekends. And just like this the most beautiful r. and like you know like marvin gaye any kind of keep voice that you can think of. I just thought haven't bail son. And don blais deli in hurricane with highs. Marina is a singer like that we've just laws over enjoy to make an album just having gusting gas style drums. Yeah it doesn't work. And i think you've hit the nail on the head. They've got such talent. Why is it being wasted. Hurricanes prime years psalms prime years being wasted deli alleys communities years. Now it'd be so sad to look back. Don't wanna be talking in five years time. Say german dallied is like really young and he was really gets. Yeah oh it's such a shame now. Did school for portsmouth today. You're wasting talent one things that i wonder. He goes in his second season back in for interesting season where he ends up winning the he i up until christmas. He was on a plane. There were a lot more attacking a lot more open and then a couple of games were things just went wrong and literally after the christmas period attainable marinho chelsea and and they won the league in week lock marinas doctrines but that that period of football before was was very was pretty attack into it to be. I think essentially is of maybe caught between a rock and a hard place because really he. He needs something again this season. But if he doesn't qualify champions league for the lead condo win the european and stuff. That's where is i. Don't know if The prospect of having junior novels men out over the summer. Josie reno's wins zero plea. He's got a really good strong position to be locked. Well of course champions league car deserve year if he doesn't have that then then often seen being moved on I'm easy way with a lot is way is but On the short term. I would like to see. Elliot bail feature more I would like to see more of very much would sacrifice Somebody trucking back to stay full plot. Really think lamelo needs anymore time. I think he's given enough kind of all the saying all the things that they did in the weekend. Be against burnley saw. If it was lamelo just gone wrong. Why wouldn't have done any of those things something would happen to me. Lost the impetus a. It's good to happen having back in that sense but similar gives us if he i think he's free free goes off fargo's on his own free goes fall. Far league refused end up with. Maybe eight goals fail. You know that that wouldn't necessarily be a pool return for someone who's at the back into fitness who season and i think that was the mistake. Wasn't it like probably not doing the research. Being fully aware of how long he was going to take to recover. Give himself box it. That was half the seasons and they spent so much. Money is great for our failed. He's got that. Really pecan that on wiscon- spice expense god by tonight jerry. If say he don't get champions league. Don't win the european. You don't qualify for delete. Hurricane is what reason is best for him to stay one of your own. I suppose being knowing that you have the chance to to be a clever tottenham statue all time goalscorer and also i think if he stayed at spurs he stayed in england is going to break alan shearer's record and i don't know if it's going to come a cost of of Of of winning anything. I think if he stayed at spurs you always going to run the risk of of having a career way doug and necessarily make toes or anything oh but now perhaps the pathways to meet in somewhere else and do you think hap- they in england. They don't seem here anymore. So i don't know necessarily large coffee. Radar is city as shopping on area. It was i'm not. i'm not. I'm not saying on a on. A talent level is not like a monster. He signed hurricane the he would he would achieve. He wants tv. Women probably definitely breakdown cheers record for other now. Would you take hurricane. would you take route. Harland deny because that's been replicated thinking about bringing wrestler when you not bring pain. Yeah i think you're right. Tell you guaranteed twenty. Two goals premier league with hurricane. Just keep it. But i think if you see city get holland. Came onto move majesty. It chelsea they're going to be that to temps came away. So there's enough sita's in the premier league who pay him more than well he's never going to meet to chelsea might never ever his against meets a promise. Promise selling a tell. I'll tell you now and stay on. The on. if he moved to chelsea of be done are just full athletic from now on. I'll be done because it's just not even worth it. So i don't i don't believe enough nuts in the tree of it i think. Well now you may be saying much issue you it. All you talkin on. Say the conundrum is. I don't think just dumping david metric. 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Noble Eightfold Path Workshop II - Part 4 | 27 February 2021 | Ajahn Brahmali & Venerable Mudito

Buddhist Society of Western Australia

1:56:57 hr | 5 months ago

Noble Eightfold Path Workshop II - Part 4 | 27 February 2021 | Ajahn Brahmali & Venerable Mudito

"Good morning everyone. Good morning to that. So we're doing the time radio young. Okay all right. We're four minutes late okay. All right so we're doing the second workshop for the nobel for paf series and today as usual we have john. Bre molly and venable detoro. Don't introduction let me just quickly introduce who the nuns we have here today. So we've got benadryl when he sarah with god venerable pick wondering why there's no will pick onto seat okay and where. Oh okay all right. And then we've got general. Tommy karoon ika and we're going to do the guided meditation today. She did the cadet contemplation. One isn't it. that's really good. Then will gen t as well as vanua surata so just just a few things that i'd like to mention this morning. We constantly trying to improve the program. And how we run it so each time after each workshop like emailing a or show we do. We do that anyway. So we notice that. We've we've taken quite a lot of time answering questions and for people to ask questions but we want to make sure that teachers. You have enough time to address those questions. They are important questions but same time also have enough time to finish the materials that the teachers have prepared so we were thinking that from today's workshop on words because the teachers were open up the questions and unser after each meany meditate so we will take questions. Rahm to people are two questions. We'll have two questions per mini meditation. And because we only taking two questions per mini meditation we would like to ask everyone to try and if chance to someone else who has not asked a question or the session at the same time in order to make sure that any burning questions left unanswered. I have prepared a question box a little bit similar to how we run retreats and we have because a salary to talk and then we have people to write questions on a piece of paper and then we can pasta questions to the teachers and can you can then see depending on time whether they want to address the questions during this workshop during next workshop. But i'm quite sure they will address it sometime. Doing doing the series yeah And of course this two questions limit does not appeal to the nonce so the nuns can ask questions more than two questions and not just quite happy to answer it. yeah l. Sorry lhamo and forgot to introduce this method sitting yup one of the things that we can do is because sometimes there will be extra time at the very end and we can actually more questions than if not so questions left if you have a box for questions or whatever. We can do it at that time. Yeah okay all right. And then we are also asking people to that are related to noble it. Four puff there are always other avenues for you to ask other related questions but yeah so. Let's let's just keep those questions onto this. And i just want to quickly mention as those of you would have known we are doing. A small donation drive To get a new laptop for giambra molly for the monastery. So i've got a donation box outside but now because the classes after we brought it in so we'll put a donation volunteer outside again during lunch time. If some of you didn't bring cash just push me. We'll see what we can do a yup other than that. I think that's pretty much it did. I miss anything else. Sounds good to me okay. All right so let's head back to the dentist. Okay thank you heart and so we are gonna continue pretty much left off last time so remember. This is about early. What is and because. It is about early buddhism. It really is a bad what the buddha taught not about buddhist traditions and buddhists developments over the past two and a half thousand years as about coming back to kind of the what the buddha taught and of course that is very important because what the buddha taught obviously is the gold standard for what buddhism is about and everything else in a two and a half thousand years since then. It might be right sometimes. It might be wrong but what the buddha taught obviously has to be the standard for everything else and because of that usually when we have workshops. We have a session. Where we talk matt misconceptions last time. We had misconceptions about dependent origination. Now we're going to look at the misconceptions about the noble eightfold path for some of the wrong ideas. That are out there. You can see if not wrong at the very least. They are not really in accordance with how the buddha taught and that is kind of the again the essential thing here. So we're going to look at that and see how. See what happens when we look at these Ideas maybe today. Maybe we will have a discount. We have the breakout session later on. Maybe we can discuss this topic further. Some of you may have some ideas of your own. About what our misconceptions about early buddhist sorry about the noble eightfold path. Get this right. So it's nice to get added because we have obviously limited idea about what. This misconceptions is good to have other people's input as well. There might be an interesting topic for toronto. You can bring up your favorite misconception or you can bring up your own misconception. Yeah now i get it now. Thank you so much for clarifying. My my own kind of often happens so the first misconception. We're going to look at is the following him. All paths are different ways up the same mountain. The mountain symbolizes climbing the mountain walking the path. Yeah and reaching the pinnacle like reaching the end point of that particular spiritual path or whatever it is and this is a very common view that you will hear especially maybe not maybe so much buddhism but sometimes you hear it in certain religions. That happened this idea. Sometimes buddhists also have this idea. There are certain kinds of more new religions. Yeah which tend to have this sort of ideas and so is it really true. That is really the issue here. And so this is kind of the idea. Many parts with the same destination. Here you climb the same avenue. Which is that can recognize at mountain k two. I'm not sure what it is looked really awesome mountain so if you get to the peak of ketu you find god that's what they say and so here you have all of these various religions everyone going to the same place is really the case. Why is buddhism missing by the way you have islam christianity. Hinduism buddhism is not usually the case that really s. We'd really bad. I think anyway so okay. So this is one this alternative vendors the other alternative like this sir clear. Yeah so this is this. I think this has been made by christians. This particular one. You can see. Christianity leads to eternal life. The other one's just lied to death. Let's it you diane. you're finished. I think it must. This must be a kind of slightly biased biased. The kind of scheme over here. So this is the alternative which one is more likely to be true. Well this one obviously is also wrong in the sense that but what is more likely to be true and i think a lot of this idea that all parks leads to the same this. The notion is kind of emotionally. Satisfying sent sentimental. It feels nice. Yeah nice sentiment. We all traveling together. We all brothers and sisters in the spiritual path and we all heading in the same direction. But i think the reality is much more complicated because obviously i think i the first question is which which parts are we talking about here. Obviously there's an endless potential number of paths. If someone is kinda praying to thor and odin traveling on the same mountain as well no way. They're going to. They probably going to no way no way. Or if you are like a satanist could be considered the what exactly is the definition of a path anyway. Well how do limit this things down. Is everything just the same. It doesn't want to start to look at this thing doesn't start. It doesn't really make sense anymore. And then you look at the goal is that various religions talk about and actually. They're quite different religions. Here talk about god. Yeah but again. The talk of god in various different ways. Can it be really be the same thing in buddhism. We say there is no god so how can god. How can buddhism have the same goal as as a religion teaches about god. If we don't talk about god remember some years ago. I met this person. You know the behi behind religion. Yeah that was. It was established in persian iran. Back in the nineteen th centuries a very new religion and they have this idea that all regions are the same or go to the same goal. So there was. This lady was down in central catedral in earth. We had this multi interfaith thing. What multicultural thing and so center. Yeah i'm not so sure about that and said oh yes that's right region to goes on goes up the same mountain and he was adamant that was the case and of course the is not really the buddhist point of view because the buddhist point of view there is no such thing as an eternal god so it gets very problematic. The paths are so various that it's the nation so so various. So how can you actually talk about these things. And i think if you have a little bit of a kind of critical mind and the mind that distinguishes between these things. It is very obvious that this is a very kind of a shallow view is an easy view but the reality is more complicated. Of course we could say that some parts go maybe part of the way. Yeah some parts are some aspects of the powers that are right. Can you divided up in this way. But that they all have the same goal. I think is not really justified. A job before you go one thing would come to my mind. I remember when. I started input as in twenty years ago when i lived in new york. And there's different kinds of scripts and it's it's quite a daunting task to when he starting as a buddhist that it seems to be but everybody's like okay we're going to the same destination but the path seem to be so different. Watt saw where. Let's say within buddhism a- within buddhism so some some say you don't have to believe any of this stuff you just meditate. That's good enough on some say you have to start keeping five precepts and some say you know you can keep some of the precepts out and it's it's a quite a difficult for me to get started because it's it's a quite a very way of teaching out there so that's i guess that's some of the stuff will come today. But i think within buddhism. Yeah i think that's a really good point. Actually i wanted to mention that a good thing that you brought it up. I think very true that within buddhism itself there is a number of parts and i think there's a number destinations within buddhism. I do think there are some woods that lead to different destinations than others. I think some of them lead to kind of god existence but it's similar in some ways of these religions and so there was a lot of variety and so it's a very good point so that is why it is important again to study the early buddhist texts to get be realistic about what real buddhism is within two and a half thousand years of history you can expect a lot of distortion. You can expect things. Moving in different ways. Problem with a buddhist aging is that it is so revolutionary and so different from everything else. They will be a tendency in the human mind to drive or to make the teaching conform to the craving here. Crabbing is i wanted to be a self. I wanted to be god tend to distort your idea of what is to fit your craving here and i think this is a very big problem that we always have to be on the outlook for him. Yeah and i think there was a lot of trying to fit it into the society and your present time in stays may be drinking. A little bit of alcohol is not a problem. It's hard to maybe talk some people that you should keep the five precepts. It's maybe awkward even sometimes but not just that already straight after the time of the one. Put a pass away. They started to conform with that with the idea of of what was time. It was in india at that time so it started to develop from there. we always has led. Yeah exactly i think you see that in the vigna. The monastic rules and regulations you. There's obviously been a historic development of those rules. And i think a lot of those rules that come precisely from indian culture indian society and i were incorporated in the innovative. Yeah yeah now. That's a good point. Okay so what. I can't remember what my next is. Had with mr okay. So but this is what the says. Yeah he says that this is a very famous verse that we have actually mentioned before. Just this is. The path is not other for the purification of insight. You should practice this path. This is the discombobulation of mara. Discombobulation is at rama's translation. Which is quite nice. I prefer that one i think. So this is this is the path. What is this bath. Well it is. The noble eightfold path and very clearly says there is no other. This is the path we have to practice. And if you have a certain path that will lead to a certain goal. If you have a different path it would lead to a different goal and it will not lead to the full and final purification of insight in other words full insight into things. It requires a certain path one of those famous very famous statements. And when you see that you may think that buddhism is just like any other religion. Yeah we are the best. We are exclusive access to the truth. Nobody else has access to the truth and the way that we have because we are buddhist so is this what it means and the answer is not really because buddhism claims as opposed it claims dislike other regions. It claims to be a universal teaching. Yeah universal in the sense that talks about universal aspects reality as it actually is is what we claim and if we claim that it doesn't really make sense to say that you got to be a buddhist. If you're not a buddhist you're going to go to. We're going to go anywhere not a pretty bad place. But there's not really how buddhism works because it works on principles. How you live how you are. It doesn't really matter so much whether you're buddhist or not still. The is claiming this is the only path. So how do we make this conform to each other. How can we say this is the only path and at the same time. Talk about universal principles and this is the next thing that comes up here which is a beautiful teaching of the buddha. This is from the dig. Cada maha pony bana ceuta in whatever teaching and training dumb of india. The noble eightfold path is founder there. The noble ones are founder. Nobody wants to areas those who have purify insider before they found wherever there is a noble eightfold path dumb. That was sort of was thinking about yesterday. When we were thinking about the different ways of misconceptions that well then mean that the laypeople on a practicing with the sesame there okay so that is a good question it can let let me get back to. The second is an important point but so the point about this. Is that if you practice the noble eightfold path. It doesn't matter if you are a buddhist doesn't matter if you believe in the buddha. It doesn't matter if you whatever. Yeah what matters is what you how you live and this fits with this idea of universal principle is not about what you call yourself is about how you live that really matters and this is this beautiful teaching in the maha bina ceuta but at the same time. It doesn't matter what you call yourself but you have to follow this particular path. Otherwise it doesn't work you kind of make sense. Yeah it's kind of the whole thing sort of is quite beautiful in that way here. It's not exclusive to buddhist. But at the same time there's a very clear path that you have to follow and of course we know from the way the suit has i taught that sometimes we have beings like the pacheco buddhism particular like the individual. Buddha's these are buddha's that arise don't actually teach so they become like this become saints or the become. You know people who live in this world without having any real impact as such province on us call private put us partake means like one not by themselves and that makes sense yeah and then a buddha arises when the buddha arises is the buddha a buddhist obviously not the buddha comes out of ordinary society and suddenly they have an insight into things that is the inside they have but not really buddhist the does have an insight into reality and later on we get this institution called the buddhism but really it is about insight into reality that it is all about a marvelous teachings and of course that is where you'll find the noble ones. So that is i. Think the right way to think about the the path so it's not like all paths lead in the same way but if you practice the right path it will lead in the right way regardless of what you call yourself so teaching windham of. Yeah so you're saying only applies to monastics because there's a dumb india so people here have a chance that what you're saying what i'm think. Okay sorry no so actually. Yeah so you can see here. The words i last time we were asked to have some more poly words. I think it's nice to have someone. Sometimes you have to find a balance between too much power. Whatever but i think is really nice idea. You can see here there were dumb in the if you look at the pilot a second line of parley it says dumb been ni- reo in the second line so and this is very interesting because dumber vinegar is usually understood to mean the dumber on the one hand is the teaching of the buddha. That's the dumber and vinegar. That is then mr to be the monastic regulations or the monastic rules. Often considered the vinegar. But if you look at suitors there where the word vinegar is used. It is actually used in a slightly different way in the earliest part of the suit. That's what it means. It means like it is used in a sense of training player because that goes next topic here anything more we should say about. That can think of anything now. But let's have a quick meditation break and then we can have a couple of questions if you're not everyone. Let's carry on so any questions about the parts. The whether all kinds go in the same direction. Go the same mountain peak or not. Want to miss anything about that. Everyone is happy about the noblest path is the only path. Could you take the microphone. Okay yeah please take the microphone in one of your slides described. How the put this said this is essentially the only path noble life. oh i've heard in various descriptions of a similar statement about the pattern. Okay okay i can see how study. China's part of noble eight fold path. But not the other way around. You clarify that a little bit. Yeah i don't think it says in the exactly those words that's petar is the full path only part of it. May it may say other things about something that isn't essential ingredient or something like that but it doesn't say i think anywhere that it is a complete in his own right for example. It says that's at the patina on if it's practiced on duty and the you have ditty seal first of all specifically set in number suits but i think the point. Is that if you practice patana in the right way it actually includes all the factors so if you look at the patana ceuta how the sector baton masuda is expressed. It talks about contemplation of things. That only happen if you have some somebody. Yeah it talks about the contemplation of the mahogany touch. It is the largest broad mind or the acumen a cheetah. I think the measureless mind and all of these things are term for jonah states or the brahma. Bihar us practice to the highest limit or the remote which again is liberated minder. So in other words it is actually included in santan. Patana usually as you say is the cause for some as a mighty but when it comes to this idea proton ceuta there. The contemplation of the john is actually included in the south daytona practice so there's different angles in my point of view. But you're quite right. There was no such thing as just a town being the only path. Yeah think we lost about ninety five percent of the people on that question so anyway go listen to the recording later on view. Getting just talking about satin is the seventh factor of the noble at whole. Yeah and deluca was saying that. Sometimes it said that all you have to do is at the patina. So how is that possible. Potanin is the seventh factor. And you have to practice all eight. That's the only path how can set petar. B everything basically the question. So that makes sensor. So i apologize sometimes. Please please pipe if i say if i'm talking things are new and some of you are quite new to the dharma. Please just asking and tell us all for not for not doing the explaining using poly words without thinking after wild when when you've been a monk for a long time it's like you're is almost like you get this kind of specialized vocabularies us all kinds of all. I think all of that. You have specialized in jokes. That only can only understand. If you're among nobody else can understand it with like that. Unfortunately please stop us and ask you another question about this yet please. English pali john. This is not about the a bath or anything but though something you mentioned in your talk now just mentioned that laypeople and monastic has no difference. Which puzzled me actually. Can you elaborate on that. Because what do you mean by that. What i mean. Is that if you practice the noble eightfold path down if you practice the teachings properly then there is no difference is about the practice that matters if you fulfill the eight factors and you practice and properly then it doesn't matter where the person or or monastic but it might be easier to fulfill the factors if you're monastic for example. Yeah so it's it's. The principles are the same but the might be one situation might be more conducive to the practice than the other one but there was no essential difference and sometimes when looked at the people in the world. Sometimes you see lay people who are practicing like you know it's just mind boggling. How the practice you know they. They kind of live with just like monastics. And they are better than ninety eight percent of monastics keeping their precepts meditation. Sometimes you find people who are very very impressive and sometimes you find monastic. So are not very impressive at all. you think. Gps doing where they live. But in general in average you'll find that monastic path is more powerful because it is more conducive to the practice of the noble eightfold path. Renunciation is one of the factors on the path and of course as a monastic. You more geared to was that after you have things like solitude veka on the monastic path much more easily accessible as a monastic. You have very good kalina meters on the monastic path. We have the we all have the but you have john brahm. You have been able. What do ya you have all the venerable nunzio bendable meta jesus really good people who all pulled in the same direction which is very very powerful. So monastic life has many advantages but the basic principles can be practiced whether you're layperson or a monastic. Okay let's that's two questions so we we're limiting you two questions now. So if you don't like that ben complain later on. So let's move onto the second misconception or mitha you're not okay so this is going to be controversial. Yup so this is the disadva- path is an alternative to the noble eightfold path and eight p. means noble. Eightfold path reminding you and whenever you see. Hp noble eightfold path so the. What is the path very common path in buddhism it. It is very common in mahayana buddhism. Of course because that is often one of the main things you do in mahayana with is but it is also quite common in. Terada would is mma. Yeah you know that. It's actually very common in both my and teradata so. I don't really want to criticize any type of buddhism as such but what. I want to criticize not criticize what i wanted to compare this idea of this path to the noble land for parts so very common around the world so for that reason we need to ask. Is it really a valid alternative. Sometimes they say it's better yet the nobler four path but let's to stick with a more basic question. Is it a valid alternative cancer. Practice the border path instead of the noble eightfold path. One thing i want to say about this. The potty sadhana parties basically what you're aiming is to be a buddha so the key difference as we are aiming to be fully. Lighten as well but the police officer sort of like continuing this until the become buddhas so always remember when you see police. Atta they aiming to be put us. That's what the aim is on. Thank you. It's good to kind of set out all the details so everyone is on board. So that's the bodhisattva. Path versus the noble eightfold path. Is that is. What did the buddha himself teach. Did he teach one or the other or both or neither or what so. Let's see what we have here. So the first thing i want to discuss is the word. Bodhisattva yeah body. cetera often. Often bodey the word. Boeing is means like awakening and sat. Data is understood very often to mean like a being something like awakening being in other words. A person who is moving towards bodey. That's the idea of the word bodhisattva. The first question that had to ask is it used in the early buddhist texts. We call it. The bts is this word found in early buddhist texts. And for those of you who've been around for a while you will know that it is found. Yeah it is found in this particular phrase and in this phrase in the early buddhist texts is the only place that is founder and this particular phrase is found. Maybe i don't know five to ten times. Maybe in the suit and it is found whenever the buddha talks about his life before his awakening as when its founder and annoyed. This is the party bairbre. Some border and be some booth does bawdy satire. so you can see the is out by is there. That's the buddhist actor. Yeah you can see in there hiding away in the middle of that conglomeration of letters. Yes this is actually found in the early suit so if found in the illicit. What exactly does it mean. Yeah this is kind of becomes very important. Does it refer to put his software as we now understand it as a separate path or does it perhaps refer to something else. So let's have a look at some of the translations that are given for this typically in the suit as the first translation mr by bicker bodey. Yeah before my translation of exactly those words you so now before my enlightenment while our still only an enlightened but is that it's not all that helpful is using the data again so you can see here. The basic idea is before my enlightenment. That is when you about a sector according to the eib year while i was still unenlightened boy decide to so and this is one of the main distinctions in the early buddhist texts compared to lay tradition. Is that in the early buddhist text the idea but this is the buddha talking about his last life before his awakening before it kind of becomes the buddha. His lip are to be practicing trying to become enlightened is in this last life after he renounces the home life and his practice into become a buddha at that time. He about decider. Yeah you can see so. It's a very short period of time. This word is used. there is a some exemptions. Some exception is one one famous exception for that that is found in a suit that called the sharia buddha ceuta the the wonderful in marvelous found in the magic one number one hundred and twenty. Yeah the measure. Monica and it is about all the amazing things that happened when the buddha was born just after his birth or even slightly prior to his birth in that certain is one of the few places where the idea is that via seems to be used also for the life just before this last life of the buddha one of the few. But that's sorta is it already show is kind of development of later doctrine in it sometimes. The early suit has have been developed later on had material added to them and the way to understand that is to do what we call comparative. Study of the suit as compare the various versions on it and by doing that kind of down earliest kind of word of the buddha by doing that. So you have this in chinese translation from different schools and sometimes in tibetan sanskrit or whatever and then you compare these things and then you kind of distill. What is the essence. The buddha word if you're like you and when you do that you find that. This particular suit has a lot of elements to it. That were added later. Why because this different versions of the suits are so very different. There's lots of things added and lots of things that are not the same so that is the only place. Yeah and it's kind of interesting wherever you see. The idea is us differently already. You have a tendency to layton as attendance to develop ideas bijon how the buddha torture so what. then what does that mean and the word. What is the point about this word. It can be understood in different ways and this is a very important point because A word like sutter can actually be a pilot is a word which one word often has large number of different meanings. So there's an alternative meaning to this winter and were sutter can be equivalent to what is in sanskrit called sector data and stockton in someone who is intent on something so i think and this was first. This idea was first proposed by amount. He was the professor of sanskrit at oxford university and he was the one who propose this. I yeah and i think it is a very good very bright proposal but in the suit does it does not mean awakening being. It means one person who is intent on awakening which makes very good sense. And then you start to understand why it is called bodhisattva in the suitors. Because the moment the buddha renounces the household life the reason why he renounces. The house is precisely because is intent on awakening. You remember the story of the buddha. He thinks about old age and death about illness. And then there's the story which may not be true about you know. His sees the messengers whatever but his main thing is this idea of seeing death and seeing kind of the there must be something more to life. You can't just go go around attaching to all of these things and then die afterwards. I want to seek a solution to this. Yeah the buddha is intent on awakening and that is why he renounces the house or life. So it's a beautiful way of thinking about this and so then you have the translation like this before my awakening while i was still an awakened but intent on awakening intent. This is the buddha after renounces. The house would this translation is by a bunch of so doe. Yeah and the very of always but very often kind of see eye to eye with answer to the way he translates in this case. I think he's translation is preferable to the one by mickey body. I don't disrespect to when it will be kubota. Here's a marvelous translator. But i think in this case this more corrector so this is a difference between the two and this is what that means in the early ceuta sir so. This is the first point about this. Yeah so then. What i think then. Then what happens next to. I think you almost preemptively talked. All my points already sometimes is good so i was just listening to you. Know you took that point okay. So so all right so as we often see. Monks approach the buddha and ask for advice to our attention so the monks never go in early early buddhist scriptures. They never go to buddha. And say how can we become a buddha. They ask how the become an are hunt how to become fully. Lighten one but meaning. They used the word are hunt ship so it seems reasonable to suppose that those who is by the buddha hood would have done the same that the border would have responded and would have responded in fitting way saw but there is no aspiration to do that. We're not well why wouldn't they want. Aspire to become buddhas. Why would they do. I mean if you see somebody nice you wanna be like that. Don't you like you see. I don't know when you're young. You see be able to. Why how come. They didn't aspire to be as interesting. That is interesting i know. Why didn't you ask this question fred. And they'd never okay. Let's see what happens then. The question arises why we don't find even trace of teachings of bodhisattva partner. Architext the is the things where we don't have the path they've okay the word adam bramall teaching the body sato body satires we say polly. The word is there but it means something else. There is no really path to do that to understand the difference as that off prometheus talking at that there is mentioned about body. Set w-wa for sata but there is no path to become a put up rather this. Yeah there is no part to become a buddha. I it's strange okay. If as a causal background to the realization of enlightenment as the buddha rather than our hand why are the nicolaas silent about s meaning are taxed and and the buddha here in small instead of capital. It's and you know being buddha. Buddha mean enlightened once you know the the buddha us rather in all why why if they if they as a crowd that you know. The buddha must have become the buddha somehow but the nicolaas are silent about it right. Why point i. Don't they point to the possibility of buddha. Put a hood itself as an object does aspiration. Why don't even have the buddha hood as you know it's an it's there. Why do they always change the word they talk about. The buddha put up oda. But why do they always when they go and ask the buddha. They always talk about our hunt. Why why isn't they even ability there that we have all these looming questions in other words. You're saying that if there was a bath you would expect to find something about is who does so the fact that you don't find anything straight. It's not word in any way. They whether they maybe use something else instead of our ship. Path or rather the party subtler path. That maybe they use some other way means of you know telling the buddha like how did you become that the way you are east maybe texan. What happens when they tell what was before. He was buddha in early texts. We didn't think about that yesterday. But i mean some stories like that because run where the buddha says before you know lives you know what i'm pointing towards the cut the countersuit like this. I you know all these things aspirations and this and that excess s an innocent extra very important point because when you look at the suit as the talks about his past lives then there is no indication at all that it was on a path and practicing towards the buddha hood in fact the exact opposite is case. One of the most famous suit as i should have added this year. But i didn't even think about one of the most famous suit has about the buddha's past life is the gut dicara suit. I found in a magic number. Eighty two three something that it too. I think it is anyway and in the gut dicara ceuta supposedly past life. The buddha may well be in this ceuta Buddha is a brahmin and hit this brown and he has a friend and then this friend says to this says to this brahmin. Who is the future. Buddha has to go and see the buddha buddha casa is in but would want to come and see the buddha and then this future buddha has supposed to become buddha goto. Mind if you'd half a get about those buddha don't believe anything about this. You know this nonsense. Let's not go there. Anything to do is very very resistant. And his friend got dicara. Who tries to keep on persuaded him. Yeah and do some very extraordinary staff to persuade him to come and visit the buddha and then eventually okay. Okay and it. Kind of drags him along there and eventually he listens to him and when he listens to him of course then you think wow this is really good stuff but it doesn't give the impression of some one who is on the path that gives the exact opposite impression someone who is very resistant to hearing the buddhist teachings. Yeah is almost the opposite of the idea of someone is on the path and there are many store though. Another famous story is in the partake. Putt shake musical particular ceuta. Anyway it's in the potato suit. It's in the anger. Threes number fifteen or thereabouts and that is the story of also the past life of the buddha where he is a a wheelwright In other words someone who makes wheels we'll buy to someone who produces wheels and there he is a very low occupation in society consider one of the very basic ones and there he makes wheels for the king and the king says i'm going to war and in a new wheel for my ward sharia to it seemed like the king had won the war chariot. I thought the war very small. Very small scale. Yeah this is kind of interesting about things. In ancient india as everything was very small scale. It's hard to know but anyway in insa new wheel for his washer. Can you make it for me. And then this bodhisattva. By he makes a wheel for the charito the king. And that's really what the story is about and the stories about how good he was at making wheels and then you know it goes on. Because he's so good at making wheels that's why he became such a buddha in the future because he had that intention to do things well but there's nothing there about practicing the path in fact if anything making liles so that people can go to. War is almost opposite practicing the path. Yeah okay here's a we are now you can go and have lots of violence and kill people with as you as you like and this is something you see. Almost throughout the suit has it that when the buddha talks about is past lives. There's no indication that he is on a path. In fact indication is the exact opposite that he's not on a path allah. He's blind everyone. Yeah but he had just happened to almost stumble across teachings see what what. Okay so. why the third question. Why do they include. No description of subtle career from peekapoos. There was a quite a long article but as just sort of took the points out of the article. So why isn't there any description of the career if it is actually a reasonable if it is a path like it is promoted these. Why do the architects and they were. Some answers may be. Nobody's in this if you want to go and read this article. He was speculating. Maybe was to like. He didn't want to the buddha said. These are the leaves in my hand. I just teach you what you need to know. Maybe he knew something else but he didn't wanna teach you would've may be discombobulated. Everybody say like oh yeah by the way this is this is pretty subtle but actually you should follow this path as well so maybe it's too complicated. He just wanted to teach one off one answer. Perhaps i don't know what else did he mention there. Why wasn't they description. I can't remember now from too many but it was just basically what the what it comes down to. There is no mention about this actually like this career path in in nikitas and he'd all seem to becoming later later. Development of buddhism saw the body bar path to become if you being aspirin to be a buddha but that leads us to questions that i interesting if there is no indication in the early buddhist takes that i think that is fairly clear that even though the word is or occurs there's no indication of a powerful at least questionable. Why do we have why than is there. Such an idea. What does that come from the idea of. Avoid a central path and best question number one and the second one is how does a buddha arise if there is no apart these other two questions within have to answer. Yeah because otherwise is very difficult to understand what is going on so so again. The buddha says there is no part just this is the path. There is no other for the purification of inside here by saying that. You're almost already excluding the bodhisattva path. Because you're saying that there is only. This path is the mobile for path which leads to arrowhead chip. So that is enough. What is santa path when this is what. The buddha teaches. Very good question. why should we hear. Whose path are we practicing. If we're practicing the border sentinel part. We're not practicing the path of the buddha. So whose path are we practicing here. What does that path coming from. This is such an interesting question if you have later ideas in buddhism. I'm not found in the suit. As where do those ideas come from. And a lot of these ideas. Remember that these many of these ideas. They don't really have an author. Her you get the politics only author we know is the buddha and then you have a few authors like maybe a venerable sariputra. Yeah and then. You have some of the monks and nuns in teradata and teradata who offered those verses but the vast majority of buddhist texts. They don't really have an author. They are anonymous texts. The idea like the bodhisattva path is found in their in. The politics is found in collection called the cherry picker which talks about the path of the buddha before he became enlightened under that is where it is found and who wrote a text. Nobody knows is anonymous and this is very problematic. We can choose either on the one hand to take on board teachings of the buddha that we know is early buddhist texter or we can take on path like the set path written by anonymous people. We have no idea who they are whether they enlightened or not whether they had any real insight or not these things are very obscure. Yeah so we have a choice. I would say it is very dangerous to start practicing a path that is laid by someone who is anonymous. We don't know anything about. We have no idea where it's gonna lead. Our choice should obviously be in my opinion anyway to follow what the buddha taught that is what it means to be a disciple of the buna. That is what it means to be a true buddhist to follow the teachings of the buddha himself so this is one of the things that the buddha again. We're just talking a second ago about how the buddha just didn't really seem to be on the path in his previous life and this is another indication of where he said. This is from the maha piney bonner suit the great the suit down the buddha's passing away mendicant s- monks and nuns are not understanding not penetrating the four noble truths. Both you and i both you and i have one did entrance migrated for such a very long time. Yeah the buddha is saying here that he has wondered entrance migrated. He's not on the path he just wondering around trans migrating. Just like anyone else. He's not really on bodhisattva. Powerful this is what this seems to indicate right before you go. I think one thing for me as well it. I've sometimes if he'll fear coming up with what's going to happen next lifetime you just don't know we keep wondering wondering and he's actually actually very longtime. This path was subtler path. It's as if you will have this clear path on your following an you never going to get out of it It's sort of like. I have peration and you're going to move along with this path and become a buddha somewhere. Yeah could good luck with that. Were hard enough as it is. I think that's a really good point and pay people. Maybe that's maybe one of the psychological reasons behind the bow this path. You want to feel safe in the future that you're carrying on with his path. You know how to lose it again could be one of the psychological reasons behind. It drives this kind of ideas. Yeah but yeah so interesting and then comes. The favorite music is coming again. Yeah so which you wonder how. We bought so fast. We talked so fast there. This is how it happens. Thank you so. Should it be even faster. Number can talk faster okay. So so then. How did the buddha reach awakening. If it didn't practice a path and this becomes the next important point how did actually happen and the answer is that sometimes it happens more or less it happens more or less by just the right conditions coming together the right person with a ride qualities living in the right society at the right time and place although these things coming together and then bang you get the buddha or so that is how distressed like you can imagine if you look at people in our society in general not just buddhist but anyone really you will notice that there are certain people who just happen to live. Well why do they live well whether it's not because they are buddhists not because they're practicing a path but best because they have been conditioned in a certain way maybe the parents taught them the right way or they had good teachers or they had some good spiritual guides but it's not as if they are on a path that stretches back into infinity in the past it is just that conditions come together and the buddha is just an extreme example of that all conditions coming together obviously had practices some meditation in the past life. So that in this life when he sits down under the rose apple tree as a child his spontaneously goes into meditation. Obviously it must be because impact meditation in the past life so he brings a lot of good qualities with them into this life. And then this live. He's very shy. Yeah has very powerful spiritual qualities. So it enables him to make that breakthrough that is how it happens. So it's more like a natural process things certain things coming together and then a border comes out of it and that is why a buddha israel a metro principal principle of nature every now and again someone some person somewhere will have with the right qualities they will make the breakthrough and then you have a new buda arising in the world that seems to be the explanation in the suit yeah. The suit has says a buddha arises jetty at the target arises in the world or budo. I can't remember it will put the. That's really all it seems to be saying in the suit and so it is not. There's no indication that it is a result of the path so if it isn't a result of a path and to me it doesn't make that much sense to talk about the path that goes over many lifetime is how do you remember that path. How do you know what you're supposed to do. Yeah i that's actually. I think the misconception. It's quite often people think you live a good life in new study put his. You will remember that next lifetime. You have to be very careful with that kind of idea that tried to aspire to get. Get out of here this lifetime if you can because you never know what's gonna happen next. Yeah exactly and this is what the buddha says. Now is the time to make the effort to talk about this all the time in the suit because the future is just so insert and now is the time. I was impotent. Almost exact opposite to having this idea of carrying on sean remember. You're going to all the path so there is a very big downside with that idea that actually makes you maybe a bit complacent even the can. Yeah it could yeah okay. We read a hammering the for the suspect so then the question comes. Where does the board had. Puff come from this the next thing one talk very briefly because otherwise we're going to be for a long time. There is some very good literature on this online. And for those of interests that i would recommend you to read a book by bendable analogy your call the call. The genesis of the bodhisattva ideal. Something like that. You can find it online for free. And it's one of the best studies. I am aware of on the arising of the ideal. And what do you find you find. The kind of in the embryo. Embryonic forum of the ideal is already found in the earliest suit. As i already mentioned the sharia buthe ceuta before and you'll find a few little bits and pieces like that. I kind of start to get the feeling for the arising of the bottom ideal so this would have been an idea but arose started to rise after the buddha passed away here and the reason seems to be and this seems to be a universal reason happens wherever you have someone who is really special f imagine having someone like the buddha rounder john brahma but the buddha is even kind of you know. Imagine having the rounder someone that you rely on all the time for advice in spiritual practice whether you are among or person someone who has this wisdom to always know what you're supposed to do. The kind of the apparent to the kind of supreme parent to always kind of guides are in the right direction. Imagine having someone there that you rely on so fully for laying down the rules teaching the path and then one day. This person is is bad enough to do as a parent but imagine losing someone who is kind of the very points out very meaning of life to you everything. Yeah it is field. You can imagine the feeling in the buddhist community the sense of a vacuum the sense of loss. The sense of being something irreplaceable. That has been lost and from that and this is i think very well-known recoil situation. Is that from that then arises. The need to try to understand who the buddha was and then the story is starting to come around is why are. After the buddha passed away we start to get more stories about the buddha about the life of the buddha who he was all the stories about the life of the buddha came after the buddha passed away in the pilot. tradition is called the johta nitsana. Madonna is like the source. Gionta other birth stories pass allows the buddha. This is the source of the java. And that is where you'll find the longest the longest exposition on the life of the buddha. But it was written a long time after the buddha. That's why you'll find all the details about the buddha living in the palace in the large city of couple about two and riding on the horse kentucky and jumping over the city walls and then shaving off his hair and then it's all very kind of can see how we can make a really nice movie out of that and then he goes forward the and all of that comes and that is all found in the giants fan. All of these things happen after the buddha has passed away and i think it is fair to say it happened as a consequence of the sense of loss that was felt in the buddhist community. And from that once you start to talk about the buddha and it's not to think about him from that the bodhisattva ideal arises because this is really about understanding the past of the buddha who was the border what did it come from. How was he able to become a buddha. All of these questions have been part of that. And then the bodhisattva ideal starts to arise so i think and i think this is a very personal thing is a very good explanation is that it comes from the sense of missing someone lack in the buddhist community a sense of need to fill in the gaps in a sense and the whole path arises out of that after the time of the buddha. This is not to say that the path is entirely wrong or anything like that. The vast majority of the buddhist path is almost identical to the no blood flow path. In that sense. It is not wrong but the whole idea of doing things of a multiple lifetime of adding new factors all of that. That is where you start to gradually gradually almost imperceptible imperceptibly. Move away from the early teachings and eventually lead comes to the point where the bodhisattva ideal becomes the thing to do. And everything else becomes kind of pushed by the wayside to teach things get lost in your left something but is much later and not as original so now we have really kind of going through ingredients. Yeah okay so okay so you want to say anything more. No but i mean. I think there's a good idea. I mean feels good thin human mind to do good purify your mind and then you continue on this path and the sort of leave quite a lot of things of the noble eightfold path out but as a human it feels nice to do good things and you sort of like purifying you. You'll mind over two lifetimes continuing on the body subtler path so i can see why it would be nice live. Yeah i think i think too. It's very attractive to people. I think that's very true. And so the idea of carrying on. Maybe a conduit have to carry on. But i think i always thought that one of the dangers cutoff path is that it is to to easily become something that speaks to the ego. The ego says. I want to be a border yet. What is the best. Why should i. You know settled for iran. A mirror iran. Iran's the second it's like second best second it becomes second best and he wants to the highest and it becomes something that the ego easily grasp onto because it is so high and then of course it is going to lead the opposite originally away from the dumber in the sense if the eagles does to grasp onto it. Correct there anyway. Should we have meditation break. Yes i'm gonna use the toilet. Quick meditation break. Okay so any questions please. Them you can get ready. Report the coffee over here important important. Jump now who wants to be a get one over here. You know the slide with the passage where you had the short passage that mentions bodies term body just wondering okay. This was one here. Yeah i mean in in that short passage itself it doesn't. It doesn't actually indicate that this refers only to his being a unenlightened in this life in his in its last life. I'm just wondering if the context of where the passage came from that. Lead you to believe that because basically context always talking about his practice after went forth. So when i was what before enlightenment when i was about as i was practicing in this particular way. Her there's always talking about his practice after he left the home life. That seems to be always the context and in these things with the exception of the charity. Bhutto ceuta times. It's mentioned it's always in that in that context talking. Yeah as far as i can remember it. That's pretty much what it is. Yeah so it's five. I would say more than five. Maybe ten times altogether in the suit as something like that. Yeah yeah and those mentions like like in that ceuta about the wheel maker. Are those very rare or did they come up you know. I don't know what's what's the idea of how often it comes up where there are mentions of his previous previous. Life's mentioned yeah. Visit quite a few suits is whether it would have talks about his past lives but and the question is how many of those are authentic. And how many are not the most authentic one is the assert from the younger kaya precisely because it is a humble incredibly humble that would is kind of wheel riot is kind of the bottom of the social. Hi arc in. India is making a wheels for the king. He was a good win right but apart from that is very very humble and to me. That speaks to authenticity here. It's like the principal again. The idea of the most unusual reading is more likely to be correct because who would have the feel comfortable adding this into the suit as unless authentic is like everyone was to praise. The board are making making exceptional. So you have the like the maha sudarsono ceuta in the seventeen as about this fabulous king who lived some time in the past and everything is absolutely fabulous to amber so well. That was the buddha in the past life. Yeah that's kind of what you would expect because everyone wants to praise the buddha and lift him up and make him somebody special. That's usually the way it works. The mahogany industrial similar. Kind of thing. So as that. We're supposedly talks about his past lives. How many are authentic. I think i have my doubts if you know how. How many of them actually authentic so the buddha. Yeah okay but either way. I mean the way you talked about the body soccer path. It seemed to be that has to be something different from the noble eightfold path. That's why evidence is all sort of presented that way. But i'm wondering whether or not it's possible to conceive of it as being no different that it's always eightfold path. That's just like maybe you're you're sitting on. The same bus is just a matter on the same road. It's just a matter of when you want to get off the bus. So if that's another way to it whether you whether you decided or not i mean it's just natural. It's not like you decide to get out of the path at the boss does depend on your expiration right so that would depend on whether you aspire to be in our hunter aspire to be of fully awakened buddha and that would that would determine when you want to pull the core. That's like okay. I'm getting off the bus now. But i'm just i'm just putting that out. There is another way to conceive of a lot of similarity. And i think you're right that basically the same. It's the same thing. Yeah i mean in the power to talk about the ten power me's and six parameters and today are in many ways similar. there are few differences. You have the town. Apparently for example which is not really found in the ordinary path. The time means like determination is always like the perfection of determination. And if you ask. John brown his. It wouldn't like that at all. Probably ed so whenever there is that but i think the biggest problem with is not so much the content of the power. the more. the problem is with the idea of the path that goes over different lifetimes. I think that to me is the biggest problem with it. Because it assumes that you can somehow lay you can establish a seed within yourself that within sprout each lifetime we carry on with the same thing but is that we possible. I didn't teach that and if the didn't teach it. is it worthwhile. Taking the risk is even possible. I am i find it. I find it a very risky business. Once move outside of what the buddha taught in my opinion you on moving into risky territory. So you're saying that it's the idea. Is that the path is over many lifetimes being that. It's pure danger that it's sort of guaranteed that it will unfold like whatever four years of college. You know kind of like that. Is that what you mean or but the idea that you have to cultivate over many lifetimes because even in the ira hunt pat seems quite common to think of it as oh it might take you many lifetimes. Don't worry if you don't make it this time because you know it's hard to keep working at it and you do have to cultivate these various qualities whether you call them parham measor not just whatever qualities that are part of the path it that it could take a while so. I don't find that idea so far but the thing is that yes. You may have to do that. But there's no guarantee that you will be able to do it. Depends on the causes. The boot under the says that we should think about the path. The buddha says that now is urgent. Now you have the opportunity okay. So let's say that you're lucky and you can end up in a suitable place in your next live with suitable teachers. Then you can carry on. But there's no guarantee that you're able to do that. Very very uncertain. But if you're lucky maybe you will be able to carry on in the life so sometimes this is said in the sense that you you optimize the possibility of carrying on if your life by practicing well in this life by learning the teachings properly and then you will be drawn towards those things in the future life but the uncertainty is the so great and there isn't any ultimate is not automatic. It's not as if there is a path which is which is automatic. You may look very quite possibly will lose it all and you won't carry on said that that was your main objection. Is the the sense of it. Being guaranteed then the other question is something at some point about how like the buddha it. just it's just timing and bang. it just happens. Wouldn't i mean nonetheless. Did it require him to have cultivated. I mean to in order to become someone fully awakened. You can't just be an average joe who happened to be in the right time. The right place requires qualities that had been developed so so even though he might have been got cars. He's like obstreperous to see the buddha still he must have cultivated other qualities or something to meet him ready so that when he did hear the buddha heroes. Like okay got it. You know very good so something like my i. Guess my feeling is that even though there isn't a pure gain path. There's still a sense of the buddha. Even our buddha practicing over various lifetimes cultivating qualities anyone practicing. Yeah it's like anyone. That's kind of a point with an ordinary person. You see someone in this life practicing well but then we'll do that for all kinds of reasons. Nothing to do with a path which is going in the direction are not emitted speed a circumstance that would make you be kind in this life in the same thing with the buddha hit. Yes he probably did the right thing in the past life but not as an outcome of practicing particular path or practicing in a particular direction. It's just that it happened to be in the right circumstances so he developed good qualities just like people in this life happened to be in the right circumstances so you practice you improve your good qualities. But it's not the idea that the buddha practice the path that must have been practicing a past life. If you say must be practicing in the past like it sounds like is on the path. That's the way but the but if did practice in the past life is just like everyone in this life in the world here. Yeah but so people here practice a good way. Lots of people and not buddhist practice in a good way is good nothing to do with a on a path. It's just that situation is like that. The buddha inspired of the buddha in a sense they didn't have in the past until until this last live but even then it didn't aspire to be booed. I just spire to find the solution. Death firing. yeah. That's that's how i see things and you are very welcome to disagree about of my my view of this and to me the most powerful thing is just that the buddha never taught this kind of path to kind of really really powerful. And so i think if we're going to be disciples the we full on. Yeah anyway. it's stop there because i think otherwise. We're going to be going on for a long time. So let's try to find where we got to power gaining. Okay so actually. There's a maybe we'll take this one later on this. Is it from outside the center. It will take this. Otherwise we'll protect too much time. Let's move onto the next myth or misconception. If you're like him and this is quite another one which is fairly common. You may not have heard this before but actually it is fairly common nonetheless. And that is. The noble eightfold path is only for a areas in other words the noble ones and it doesn't really apply to anyone else and the reason why people have this idea is because of this thing coming up next year. Yeah so so. This is the definition of right view. Right view is the first factor of the noble. Full pop summa. Dt right you and this is this is how it is almost always defined knowing about suffering the original suffering the cessation of suffering and the practice that leads to the cessation of suffering here. This is how it is defined and if you look at that definition then the fool knowledge of the four. Noble truths only happens when you become a noble person. Yeah a stream entry. Whatever that is the way you get that knowledge so then going from that people say what only when you become a stream enter. Are you practicing the no blood flow path but but that is a bit problematic. Yeah if the only practice for path when you become a stream enter and how do you become a stream entry and so this obviously kind of begs the question what happens then. We've kind of problematic territory here. So i think that is to my mind. It's over reading this passage. True with the full knowledge of the four. Noble truths happens when you become a stream entra but you have partial knowledge before that. Yeah we all have some idea about suffering. Don't go too close to the fire. Otherwise get burnt. Don't don't get too many immoral and bad things because they get burnt. If you are bad treat other people's badly yeah we may have some idea of the limitations of the sensory world around us and we want to move more towards the spiritual life so we have already some idea about these things. Somebody about the path and all of these factors. I think that is the right way to interpret. It is not that the path start just when you become an hour. Noble one and before that haven't got a clue. It is more like a gradual movement. You have some idea you know these things partially and because you know them partially you can practice. The path partially not fully partially. The difference is really that when you become a noble one when you become a stream entry then you practice the path fully because you have seen these things fully you are always on the path. The path becomes part of you. Yeah it is kind of part of your mind. Your mind is always directed in the right direction. Because you know these things prior to that before you are extreme winner. Sometimes you on the path sometimes. Not sometimes you're partially on the path. Sometimes you are not at all so it's more variable but the more you know the more you are on the path so important point because i think if we if we think is only for the noble ones it becomes very discouraging and very very difficult to really try to break this this path. Yeah well that's why when you become a stream stream stream winner that You're not gonna lose to path until then you. You might next lifetime not come to the right time to follow the pass anymore if whether you have the determination or not. It doesn't really help you if you haven't practiced if you if you stream you are industry and then of course there's something with you. You have something internal with you that you bring to the next life and you are because you are independent of the external circumstances the path will continue in your next life but for other people who are dependent on external things for the past we continue. It is much more much more problematic. Yeah this is. You're you're going to have to click through. I don't remember okay. So this is from the sonya taneeka. I have attained and realized the supreme freedom through proper effort. The buddha's talking to To the monks and nuns people you two should attain realize the supreme freedom through proper attention proper effort this previously. Molly was saying that this is not for areas. The buddha said everybody you shoot put the effort put the right attention of proper effort and follow him and instead of this is not just he wasn't just talking about the areas that you have to have the right right right view just to begin the path and that proper attention and proper effort is that equivalent to the noble info path. I hope so hope so. Yeah better be otherwise. Okay yep yeah woah okay. So that was myth number three finished. Then we'll get onto myth number four and this is the idea that the factors can be practiced in any sequence and this is quite a common understanding. I think you know. Sometimes you hear people. Let's get on with the mindfulness practice. We sit down. We'd be mindful of everything and then that is a practice in his own right. That's all we have to do. Really be mindful and then things kind of move in the right direction. Yeah maybe we can come back to light view and morality tron if we feel like it. And if you don't feel i can. Maybe just leave it out altogether. Perhaps we'll talk about that later on her. So this idea that there is no real wins in the path. You can just kind of put the factors together according to pretty much what you feel like you can start at the end and what that means can be very problematic if you have this kind of wrong idea because it means that you sit down you think yeah. I'm going to get somebody. I'm gonna get into the jonah's yeah straightaway. Why because that is my birthright to get into the jonah's and that is problematic. Yeah i've seen this happen with quite a few times. People come to a mystery i have heard about. Algebra is a jonah teach. I've come to practice the jonah's yeah this is kind of this actually happens and not joking. I know people are specific. Said this jimmy. Come to this monastery. And i'm going to get the job as within four years or else or else believe that i'm going to get upset with as brahma whatever but that is the wrong way of thinking about it. Yeah because you don't know how long it's gonna take to cultivate this thing you do have to practice things things in the right sequence. If you're meditation is not going very well then. It's a very big advantage to understand why you meditation isn't going well in my experience when paypal's meditation isn't going very well to say. Oh maybe it's because. I am watching the meditation or object in the wrong way here. It's just a breath right. How many ways can you watch. The breath is simple thing. The breath is not a very complicated thing. Yeah the breakfast area goes in and out and watch that. That's really all this to it. So but this other kinds of things people. Oh yeah not really letting go properly and the answer very often is not about how you do the meditation or about you letting go watching the breath in the wrong way or whatever. There's a little bit too because of course you can do it wrong. But the main reason why people don't make progress in detention is because they haven't understood that there is a sequence in this thing. Meditation doesn't work. You have to go back to the earlier factors. How good is my morality here. Yeah i remember. Morality includes your mental morality. How much kindness do i have in my life do i. How do i think about other people do. I generally have compassionate understanding and metadata whereas others and my generally a peaceful person. What is my intention of. What is my view view. What underlines all of these things so it matters enormously so for that reason is very important. You remember this. Yeah that we talked about on the first day here last saturday the idea that things come in sequence and then you can start to understand how you can improve your meditation practice because you understand that there is a sequence to these things. I did mention last. Time is also feedback from the later factories. But this is the main sequence. This is the main force forward without the earlier. Factors the later ones but not very stronger. That is how you find out. Yeah so right. View is a very important one strengthened right view all of these things kind of fall into place. What is the purpose of the noble info path. Very large part of it is to have more right view. This whole thing falls into place. All of this really comes down to practical matters everyone to be practical about this course so this is very useful to kind of remind you what is going on. Look back into this thing and then you get some idea of where you are missing out and where you are not missing out and then you will get things in the right sequence hopefully her. I'm not gonna go through those again because we looked at those before right. So the noble papa's starts with the right view which is needed to understand why this should be followed. So why do you even practice. Why do you even want to be a buddhist. Why what are we doing here so you have to get your view straightened and that easy. Well it is if just come to the classes. It's you basically one of the key. Which i mentioned last time when i i liked the idea that we we have we have teachers. We have the kalaiana meters in this path and input them. You don't really have to study. Many things. Inspiration doesn't have to leave to this probation. If you inspired and we'll find these things come later. Then everything. Follow from that way you get things. Perations it from your teachers so just The pastas from somewhere. And it's a nice feedback loop licks one okay. So right view is the forerunner and guide for the rest of the path. So that's just the beginning but it also cuts you every every way into the path so you can promote to showing all the factors. So now you're maybe you you. Mindfulness is not correct. Your your meditation is not working. Why well you you view now. It's getting straightened because of a temper molly prom. The put his teachings it feed you back into the loop into the beginning may be into the right effort. Whatever it's missing that feeds into your back into the meditation. And hopefully that leads into your right john us right stillness beautiful but you have to have the The guy in the in the path so it's not just the beginning but he's also got through all everywhere into the path okay. I don't know what else to say. What is it now. it's good timing is actually good time. Yeah so we have a few minutes if we want before we break for lunch. Is there any more questions anything anyone would like to comment on. We can take the last few minutes to discuss any outstanding issues. If you read this question coming out so well yeah. That's a good idea with questions. Okay if we like to go to movies and have a beer on the weekend. Can we still be headed in the right direction with the noble rightful path. Go beyond the movies. Are we still heading into noble. Fateful past notices. Sergeant doesn't say would be your agendas wealth and Well okay why not. How long do you have to have your previous beer before you can go and meditate or sometimes maybe the next morning you feel nice and peaceful because you cannot do anything you've ever hangover and you sit down and the thing is go to the movies. Let's start with that one. I mean all of us. We i mean. Even time of the buddha there was even the monks seemed to be nance with seem to be going into the country fairs and all that and it wasn't always content monks and who shouldn't be doing that but delay people definitely did it and they were these things always have existed these. When i've noticed for myself that when you kept practicing more and more they seem to you'd seem to lose interest on their naturally so it's not like you have the restraint that the sense restrained -ment it is you know it's integral part of this path. But i think quite often you might be too restrictive for some people. Sometimes you just need to go to movies and just forget about it. If you days that idea of people who have you to you limit yourself too much and then you're not happy if you're not happy it's difficult to let go. It just becomes this part of become to acetic too fast slowly slowly. Letting letting go seem if maybe you're not interested in things anymore. Maybe you go to movies. You don't go to the nightclub. Maybe you go to the nightclub but go to the. I don't know what's next. I probably been there anyways so gradually crutchley and you off. Sometimes you're like okay. You have alcohol and all that alcohol in itself is the sort of the second part of this question alcohol in itself. It's maybe not so path bad but it lead to into certain direction. It's and it's one of those things which is difficult to let call it so such an integral part of our society these days the alcohol that you think it's it's okay and that's why i was saying earlier but that in certain places of practice they wanna leave these things out like the in. You wanna leave the alcohol precepts out that okay. It's fine to drink alcohol. While the buddha put down these precepts is training training precepts for us to follow that you are actually you have a your appear to mind will follow from that if we start leaving things out wade we end up can have a large. Has things like okay. You can have a little bit of beer. I have to as a week and doesn't matter. Is it okay to have a little bit of cheating your wife or your husband. Is it okay to cheat your wife a little bit. Is it okay to kill where you set the limits. Where is your your mind. where is your your level. at the moment. you may be lying a little bit. You may be drinking a little bit but are aiming towards mind. which is you. don't have to wear when you let the mind go. You don't think about it. it's just so you don't have to you. Don't contemplate those things. Whatever the object in the mind what it's in front of you that's your that's your mind. That's your object of meditation and if you object is remorse. It's really difficult go. We're trying to let those things before they. They don't follow you into the mutation another question. there's a another one quickly. Also does comment briefly on that one and i think one of the important things on the path is to understand that it is gradual. And you have not to do things too fast at basically saying what you said but to try to kind of allow these things almost to evolve naturally so it feels right not to do too much entertainment. It feels right not to drink beer or alcohol for me. The idea of. I used to drink when i was many when i was a student thirty years ago. Or whatever it is a long time ago now thirty five or whatever and they're you know the idea of being drunk and not kind of feeling that your mind is sort of out of control to me now. Seems very unpleasant. Does seems really. I don't even contemplate. And if you the moment you feel it is unpleasant because their mind is out of control. You don't want to drink anymore. The reason why we're drink is all kinds of all kinds of social reasons automobile. Because they need to relax or whatever but once you start to see it in the right way you naturally withdraw the same thing with entertainment if you start to see how you lose your mindfulness when you go to see a movie or whatever and this the buddha specifically says if we go to see a show is the biggest problem with that is that you lose your sense strand you get drawn into the action and you can lose your sense of place and time because drawn into the movie that you lose your ability to really be in charge of mind when the hero cries you cry and when you know what it's like you go to the movies and so and that is the problem. Don't don't be too strict on yourself. Don't kind of make life a joint joyless affair. Do it gradually. You know there's not it's not as if you're done anything terrible by watching a movie or anything but feel good gradually. Let's move in the right direction. Instead of watching television eight hours a day. What seven hours a day. Yeah improvement yeah. That is kind of thing you do things. Gradually you feel things out in the right way and then it becomes natural becomes easy. You know that what you're doing is is right. Yeah quite often. We see people who compact to the partner said. Yes i. I was doing that and they were doing meditating just like let's say two hours a day if miss two hours today you know one and a half then they have to two and a half tomorrow and then it becomes so restrictive that they feel obliged to certain things and it's so restrictive and you give up so much. Willpower rebounding's inspiration. It's not happening. Yeah yeah okay. I just read quickly. I think this might not take so long to the gym. I'm i'm eddie from indonesia initiative. No tiffany may be what does put us what is put of buddhist view about the spirit world they are also supernatural power. Shoes most importantly what is the buddhist view about god. Okay okay well what does it put aside about. Spirit word world and what is the buddhist view about god. This is fortunate definitely. It is interesting thing that quite often been asked about i deal with builders quite often and the question arises to you believe in god and what did we say the spirit world and it's difficult sometimes it's like do you believe in god and you just say no just sort of of the conversation and i've had those questions sometimes coming up but we do have them not just one god. We have god's many calls perhaps but then so that sort of ties together with the spirit world dupree to those. Do we pray for them. I don't know no yeah dispirit world but it's sort of for article hand in hand. I don't know what to say about it really well. The spiritual is certainly an integral part of the buddhist teachings. And if you read the suit as the word of the buddha the idea of there is kinds of spirits is fundamental to the buddhist outlook the idea that you can be reborn into all kinds of situations and that includes of course the spirit world and as many spirit world is very broad and it can be all kinds of spirits. Happy spirits miserable beards super-duper happy spirits and all of these kinds of things and that's very much part of the buddhist practice so yes certainly. This is partnered. With as in fact buddhism would not be the same without it because it would reduce kind of the whole idea of rebirth and being reborn in different realms or whatever would reduce that down to almost something which becomes far too limited to make sense out of this after the potential for shimin happiness and suffering here. So if you're going to have a proper idea of combine how good come my leads to read happiness. You almost need the idea of a spiritual spirit world to be able to make that possible can be reborn miserable state or a happiest with the human body. There's a limited to how much you can be because this body is a bit of a pain in the pain anyway so that is very much so what about god to then so this really comes back to the definition of god unusually in most religions the idea of god what they mean is a creator. God a god that creates the universe creates humanity and creates individuals. And that sort of god is not part of the buddhist teachings in fact the buddha specifically said that such a does not exist such god there is no because that's such that kind of god would be a permanent entity because always be there standing behind existence and making things exist so it requires a permanent entity in the universe and says there is no such thing as no permanent entity everything is impermanent anita turning around so that doesn't exist but because it is a spiritual spirit world spirits are can be very glorious and beautiful and bright and powerful compared to shimin beings they have some of the qualities expect a god to have yeah and for that reason because they have some of those qualities you can call them little golden goblets goblets. Is that a word. God brahm i suppose to come for lunch time. Okay okay so timeout. Okay very good. Thank you for reminding us. Gee okay good. We just finished us. Perfect timing so please have a nice lunch. Everyone and see back again at a quarter past twelve talking about god relief stuff you take the covers bruce non mode tasks. Uh ma no woah ma son. Budapest's pass early to sound sound moved. Atp serve some a pillow the charge some.

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Inside Supercars - Show 345 - Supercars The Holden vs Ford Era

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Inside Supercars - Show 345 - Supercars The Holden vs Ford Era

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Thank you tiny. Thank you cry. Yeah great to be back on kost between a few years sending back in my early days when i was a pi commentating for super kozel because immunized ice we had plenty of chats but it has been wall. Thank you indeed. And i'm sure you've been very visiting through trekking leads and keeping around the control and on the straight narrow i'm welcome to the world of civic is in deep dive you've done because you covered heath streak. Tell us about this book that you've put together. Yeah so you know each allying roku publishing Be releasing supercars the holden foot era. Too hard copy book It'll be available from all good bookshops. And it's essentially a season by season. Review of the twenty-eight completed seasons of the category thought signed nineteen ninety-three and the origins When it was cold the fahd lita touring car. 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Because as i understand the several Groups who will be putting in a bid putting in their offer isn't it a crucial time With all that is facing the supercars category at the moment with the demise of the local car industry and changes so i- televisions People consume television and in the loss of holden lawsuit lodge in australia. Absolutely fascinating time to see where all these guys Because you can say that supercars is going to to be strong in the short term but it's just impossible to say what the medium and the long term holds for that category Given the demise of that costs segment and many other things cross my seventy years. There have been many times when we could use that. Used fries of. We live in interesting times to look some of yours. Because i i knew of you as i project group man jones miles protege of many of your pisa. There's lots of them out there project groupies. Exactly right tiny off started my career as a teacher left school. And you know what i wanted to do. Like many youngsters Found myself doing diploma of teaching and a- day the end of that and taught for primary school soul here in sydney for probably about three or four years went. Yeah that was great but don't do it. long term. More love is caused in particular motorsport found myself working for jones smiles as company as you said the project group who at that time and for a long time had the toyota account for new car launches and just by general payout and at that stage. When i was working for john smiles. The company had st account to publicize the baathist one thousand. And i i had a lot. I wanted to get off my chest. But i didn't wanna wrought. Lettuce wanted to united is pre incident. We're talking about the meat to light knowing. Teeth you would wrought into the car racing magazines. In case it was auto action magazine to the letter to the editors and let the terada and did it under an alias. Because i didn't want to get in trouble because it was a bit of a conflict of interest commenting on things that my work was involved in obeyed on the french. I think i actually make you a one particular. Very strong memory of mine was i smiled. Production and cosi with a bit but deitz gone and anything and everything along the line either. Never leave him angry with your imagine. It's very much so every dotted. Every day was crossed with John yeah there was one with the opening of a road leading tobacco as on the southern side and there was a line base of roadway built at well if you can get journalists out here and right around the bottom of rides calabasas. He's came with anything. Yeah the mail remember it. Will the mount lambie bajas which cut something like twenty minutes of time for the journey between sydney and baathist and that the whole publicity for that was on the basis that we thought that if we could promote the fact that it took two hours forty five minutes from sydney as opposed to three hours and bible or whatever it was in the realms of people going up to ba'athist to. what's the one thousand full dying coming back so yeah it was a big big. Can't pine say yes great. Great memories there And of course jones going on to publish books in recent years himself. But i never did get in trouble because i right under an alias of the reverend linda and people wondered. What on earth was that about. What did you call yourself. The reverend limited will was simply a naked. An alias and somme motoracing was something of a religious experience or divided to it. I had steichen in it. I'm not a particularly religious. Push anne marie loss took on this character and i often got on the rev limiter myself and the strange thing was that the lettuce started to get a following so all. We'd writing about some topic one week and the next week. Two or three of the raiders who had seen my letter writing so these benzathine going that happened for about twelve months and ellen ed stand when he was editor of auto action in the two thousand a thought. Give this guy guy As a columnist. So the reverend limited column started up in auto action magazine in the year. Two thousand and i did that for ten years. Basically during that time Other jobs came up running via deke's strain muscle. Come magazine even started. Doing some encores commentary for formula ford people in that led to doing on coast commentary for the supercars which was say one of the highlights of my career coveting with in the diet. Because i know always bay but more than likely be interviewing bigger myself on the ground and they wouldn't be listening in he commentated they. It was quite a few luminaries over the years. That was pull narain ellie. There was air. Newnan there was cameron. Dan duncan Yes berry oliver in the early days. Of course you know it had them. Flied table came and went as other opportunities came out full them and did that for about seven years. The highlight being the host. On course at least of the baptist one thousand coverage up day so always enjoyed that aspect of it. I did a little bit of television work but not too much. That wasn't really a great gull. Full me what i love doing was connecting the fans at the cirque with what was happening so to work at baptist until them what was going on behind the scenes and then to also work at the street races which were popping up as you. Our new ones coming on stream in that era so to two thousand and two thousand nine had towns full and homebush coming on stream and was often my job to tell those you know first rice visitors how that get the most out of the day visit to a car rice meeting in the supercars for the first time and nice things to check out places to do what was going on so i really love that aspect of it and of course this old lady up to what you've become base nine for over time and that was starting my magazine because You could use in the satellite daddy's correct. Yes so through. The early noughties had a regula feature h addition on the characters Strain motor sport. Was that memorable muscle. Risa section of the mag. 'cause so's always greatly intrigued by the actual personalities enticing racing not so much the technical side all that the united mechanical saud and so after being a freelance contributor to strand muscle car for probably five or six years while i was doing the on cost commentary and i was working at auto action a couple of days a week. As a sub editor marco slow. It was the founding editor of muscle. Car wanted to move on so. He recommended me to the publishers which was next media and site from early twenty eleven Set in the editor's chair for fifty five editions. And yeah. It's incredible magazine because it has such passionate rita's So the gods that were reading the first issue twenty years a guy caught white to get every new issue and they want you content behind the same stuff so that was fantastic. Did that the eight years. And then Wanted to move on to some other bits and places. I know exactly what you're talking about with that. That passionate rate is of africa magazine on all right a couple of the stories sport and i feel delighted to have done that history on of jim richards making his falcon sprays than than the javelin. And i've had people come up to me about it as though like just finish tonight quite strange all right. Yeah okay. Because people. And i remember us ago realizing that the whole magazine business and publishing writing has changed so much because A lotta magazines had is a book by people but they don't read more wanted to articles in it but there are things like muscles magazine and say Clinker built bugs where people will read every single page. That's motorsport And massacre you're saying you read every every edgy you through. Oh yeah look at that. It's just extorting business and must be amazing to have been todd on that being part of re re discovering that rebuilding going in lodging and lengthening the process of muscle comment and saying it was a wonderful time. It was Macos slow as founding editor right. Big houses founding publisher and the design crew the had on at that stage. The came up with a concept which just gave such depth to everything. I did with a forty page stories on one particular car or aspect. I mean who does these. In the united superficial age that we live in to some extent So but that sort of created a bit of a rod for mocks back and then infamous self. Because if you did a forty page story on for instance alan moffitt. Coca-cola mustang all the ins and outs once you've done that. What else do you do on that car in the future but So it was always a challenge to find new angles and meetings to do in depth to examine and but yeah it was was certainly felt the white of responsibility in that role to cape mocks. Great work going and yet nasty. No moyle is state. Normal rather is is the editor and doing a great job with that much love magazine now in its twentieth year. And it's interesting because in twenty years. The car culture in australia has significantly changed and I tend to say that our culture has become a much smaller subset of the water community. Yeah i think that's a fair point. They cry and always always conscious muscle com magazine. A lot of magazines make the era of chasing new audience and a younger audience rather than concentrating on giving their loyal raiders. What they want. And we had i guess an older rate of shape of blocks fifty plus so we never wanted to go out and chase the younger guys because we'd never felt we were gonna get them because as you alluded to the thais of chinese. What interests them change what they've seen. What i saw kids in one on the right track and wanted to learn about is much different than necessarily guard to magazines to to find any information so yeah very passionate. Crowd and i was always conscious that We had such loyal rate now. Wood rot to you. Every issue had about twenty ause. We just loved it. I loved conversing with the editor in the magazine. And in some cases picking things apart which was fun so yeah. It's a very rare based imc magazine. Yeah you now. Working with a publishing company rockpool publishing. Who of course are the publishes all supercars the ford the holden versus forty era and a few just on the surface looked at rockpool. He go making car books. Doing rugby league immortals. It's not what they'd nomo publishing is they've they've this is not traditionally one hundred percent exactly right. Bread and butter is mind body and spirit so they produce a lot of books for women in particular. So everything from your healthy eating healthy leading to alternate lifestyles to even things like witchcraft. In the modern sense of course and just so many different things terret qods cod sets all sorts of things so they have always had an interest and always had sawed lawn business in producing split in recreation books. But i was fortunate when i left a strained muscle. Come magazine on our right. After i write supercars book and another book. We talk about a little bit lighter. It's the opportunity. Came up to join them and expand them motoring content put out more motoring books and also put out most sporting books so space paint fantastic really to say that this. What's been a boutique. Publisher book publisher is expanding their horizons and now pumping out books. That men love and in particular The women love to give them because some of us Fuck a hot boy full and one of the great presence for father's day christmas and birthdays to give the blokes love women love to the bloodstained law. I've sent a good book gift book. Yes and for all of us who have july birth. I locked myself It couldn't be coming out at a better time talking about subas the holden ford era. What where did that come from. Was this something that was burning inside you that you wanted to write a book like that or was it. A case of the publisher came and approached you on rock tool. It had a lot of success with republishing some of the magazine content. Sort of stuff that we despite can about From knicks meteor an australian muscle car magazine next media's biggest motoring toddle and they were cain to continue that relationship so they came up the idea of doing supercars history book And the starting point was the all the knicks media or chevron publishing fifty years of these strain turn kat championships so we're able to take some of that content and repackage it and I wrote a number of other chapters season reviews to create. the super. Books wasn't my idea. Was that stage. I didn't know that the win win win. The plan was hatched to publish a supercars. History book a wasn't involved in that aspect. And i approached me because i was looking for opportunities and was very happy to take up the offer to write the additional chapters and wrought the boy is and give the background to the formation of the supercar category And it's just come together. Beautifully using the third is from the chevron archive and also some photos from ice photography. John marshall signed on some really great stuff side fully illustrated so each of the chapters has a number of third is and covering the cars and the k- moments and the key rice. That's and two hundred ninety pages. It's quite a whitey tune. It is in day so hard kaba fu gloss and it's just been a really interesting exercise to sit down and and edit and wrought this magazine to sorry this book to show how the supercars category has evolved. And i was just flicking through before We started this podcast at some of the chapters and One struck me is always casino. You wrote a book and gets published. You haven't i mean all right this in twenty nineteen so it's sort of forgotten some of the things that were arena. So i had a bit of a refresh before a chat and Just happen to flick open to the twenty fourteen chapter which is told the high water mark and you sort of forget in zero where the car the future get some bad pay off these days. Doesn't it sorry buddy early pot. 'cause tar the future started from twenty thirteen season dies first. Few seasons the rising was brilliant. That was before the high downforce cause and of course Car the future. Now's new rules from twenty. Thirteen attracted The three new mocks to manufacturers. And then the i'm jay mercedes. I went fish involved. It's course it was betty. Clemson cut funding the merck's as we called them but that was a fantastic era was just so good because the rising on track was brilliant and there were five different marks on the grid. And i really think that you can't really got pasta as the ultimate paik full supercars dade up which in fact that leading to another project for you and you talked before about the Roku and immortals The mix tape in this program. Macos will is looking at the the rights of the sports. And you've done that in immobile. Yes rockpool publishing as part of the drive to Expand the sporting offering offerings came up a few years ago with a new concept for series cold immortals of the strengths foot now for those listeners. Who are from new south. Wales queensland the ict that will know that the immortals concept originated in rugby lake so there are thirteen immortal so the greatest players of all time in that cardi australia And i've been bestowed that immortals on a by hit office. Nrl And so albuque- immortals rugby league of course is studying chapters price. Falling is thirteen immortals. Well then Report will what if we applied that same concept of the stowing greatness upon rugby league. Playas through these toddle to the sports so the next one series was models of australian cricket. So there was eleven immortals and that book was written as the rugby league book was by queensland also liam hausa lane is a cricket rugby league guy but he wasn't really the guy to write the third installment that that rectal heading maude which was to do the immortals of australian motoracing. So that's where i came in. And this was my. This was my code project when we were in lockdown this time last yield in probably a little bit earlier. My june I sat down and wrote ten chapters and highlighted the fates and told the story of the ten immortals in my mind lace in a strain motorized. Could you give it. The taste of today are certainly can so. I think the icons the obvious ones paid obrock. Dick johnson and alan moffitt. And then i don't want to give too much away. 'cause i'd like to get people thinking if they came up with their list of immortals in my book is just moyen least of the ten die would include. But i will tell you that i was came to include. That jamie wing cup was a lot of people tap some alda rice fans think jamie win capitalise currently rising. He's not an immortal but future modal. Certainly because he's he's fate says the greatest of all time seven tom championship. We're not think he can either either looking but more to the point always doing writing this models of australian motoracing tena to come up with some content not just a profile of the ten draw spot look at an aspect of their career in case that perhaps had been overlooked by mice rice fans so in the case of craig lands Everyone knows the day that hey kyw became a shooting. Sti- became a connection. Kalima shooting star an overnight star at baptist in nineteen ninety three when he passed. Lighten the rice. John bell for the lay bell got back past sima level to lighter and took the win but nonetheless a star was born that day. But what i've written about in the craig lands. Chapter is the aspect that earlier in the day craig. Lowndes was so close to having his career finish that day when spun on top of the mountain so in early running and at the grotto. What's that soleman park official term. How many have you seen over the years spinach sulman park and not actually hit the wall up there can count on one hand will cry. Glands was one of those but the fact that these incident was not caught on television the fact that he kept it off the wall. The fact that there's no photos of this it's as our didn't happen and can you imagine what would have happened to. Craig lowndes corre- the day. He became a star if actually he didn't get to that stage because winning spun on top of the mountain about midday Any hit the wall if it hit the wall reckon that probably would have put a feral denton. These career prospects lock. It did the year before when cameron mcconville spun. Not too far away in the johnson. Tar up there. It certainly sounds like there's plenty of me on the vine there and When that in august in august. So in tom for father's day so utah's looking pretty good. In that respect luke wait to the of trying to muscle still now known secretly the limited in commons regularly in direction week. Four hundred eighty weekly. I'm but thank you for joining us on inside there because the story will be published months. Fold the holden and ford year europe. Wonderful here luke and all the very best and your project thank you very much tiny. Thank you cry inside. Supercars is produced by thunder media. Shooting nixed on for more or locking the podcast on your mobile device search inside supercars. 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The Evidence - S2 E2

The Derby City Betrayal

22:41 min | 9 months ago

The Evidence - S2 E2

"Cameras are ubiquitous in today's world there on our computers and our smartphones. they're at traffic corners. Parking garages on storefronts and over the doors of ordinary modest homes recording with ever increasing precision. We have technology like google earth allowing us to see in real time. Virtually every corner of the world. This was not the case in two thousand six amazon got millennia the condo complex jennifer kesse lived. There were no cameras at that time. Not in the entrance. Not in the parking lot. Not in the stairwells. It's really hard to imagine this now but that was the reality. On january twenty fourth two thousand six when jennifer disappeared in orlando on what was to be an ordinary workday at central florida investments. Timeshare company where she worked as a finance manager. Technology has not helped us jennifer's case. One iota one iota. It's come so far along but not for jennifer. Cassie jennifer's father shared with me his frustration. Google earth was in beta. We actually went to google and said please. We know you're in beta. Were you looking down on the streets. That day we were were sorry. We had connections in the military. We went to them big brother looking down. No i'm sorry. We were not looking down that day in the first forty. Eight hours of the search. One question baffles everyone. How could a twenty four year. Old woman be forcibly taken from a luxury apartment complex off from a busy roadway in broad daylight without anyone seeing it but there was a camera watching that day two of them located about one mile east from where jen lived in an apartment complex in a high crime area called huntington on the green the images it captured haunting on january twenty sixth two days after jennifer went missing a woman living at huntington. The green called police. The woman had been watching the local news and spotted a black chevy. Malibu that looked like gems in the parking lot of the complex today. Her two thousand four. Chevy malibu was found at this apartment complex near her condo. The twenty four year old was last heard from monday night. This is the first big break in her case today when that car was found We would like to Found jennifer with that car alive and well when deputies with the orlando police department arrived at the scene. They confirmed it was indeed jennifer's car what they also found. Were two cameras in the pool area. At the apartment complex one was aimed in the direction where the car had been parked and the other face of gate exit near the texas avenue entrance to the parking lot camera. One captures blurry black and white image of someone. Parking jennifer's car at twelve noon on january twenty four th the same day. She was reported missing. The quality of the image is too poor to make out the shape of the car or its immediate surroundings. it's also impossible to distinguish a person in the video. The car is parked visitors lot in his spot next to the swimming pool. The occupant sits inside for thirty two seconds before exiting camera number two captures the individual walking past a tall black wrought iron fence surrounding pool. Every three seconds. This cameras snaps an image and in every image. The person's face is obscured by black bars of the fence. The individual walks with purpose and in a perfect stride face forward never looking back presumably male. The person is dressed in. What looks like workman clothes and dark-colored boots or high top sneakers. The detail that stood out to me is his hair possibly tied in a bun or tucked underneath a hat. Twelve days elapsed. Before police released two photos of the person of interest from the surveillance video it would take another few months before they released the entire video to the media for years. Law enforcement has believed that finding the identity of the person in the video is the key to solving the case. More of our story after this short break the fox news rundown is weekday morning. Podcast dives deep into the major controversial stories of the day hosted by the anchors of fox. News radio subscribe now to hear a perspective news. You won't find anywhere else. Listen now going to fox news. Podcasts dot com fox news radio on demand on the fox news app. Download the app and just click. Listen when you swipe left you can listen to your favorite fox news. Talk shows live. Swipe right for the latest fox news. Radio newscasts on demand. Fox news radio on the fox news app. Download it today. Gatherings of leads have come in. Tips have all been followed up on but so far that one break in the case has not come. What would be ideal. What would be the ticket. You would need to break this case or at least to make a big step in this case the biggest step in this case right now it'd be to identify the person that parked her car and walked away from the apartments. Where the car was parked. They know the person in that car may not be with her now but they are certain. This person knows something about where she is. That was former orlando police department lead. Detective joel right speaking with then fox thirty five reporter shannon butler in two thousand eight. I asked shannon as she felt the same way about the car in the video now as she did then i think finding that car was the moment where police new. This is not a girl who got in a fight Because the car was found so quickly. I think the family also saw the power of what we needed to do for them. Because if it hadn't been for the media blasting her image. I mean she was that night after those sororities scissors. She's on the five o'clock news everywhere watching fox. Five news at family and friends continued to pass out. Flyers detectives are getting tips every hour. They say finding her car was a big clue but they need the last couple clues to find her with any missing person case. Time is critical and that car and the license plate and whatever and if it had not been for us the woman sitting in that apartment complex wouldn't have seen that car and noticed it and called it when you saw that footage. What were your thoughts but took you so long to release them. I mean i understand. There's all sorts of reasons. They don't release things but usually it's because you're close to something right but they had nothing. We didn't know that. At the time i mean. We suspected that live in orange. County deny keith landry. We've learned just tonight that the police wanted to get a closer look at some surveillance videos and the video comes out and you're like are you kidding me. That guy does the perfect steps were. His face is covered by just a couple of inches of a metal bar. I'm in this luckiest guy on the planet. How does that happen. And hint slow mo. You can't do anything and then looking at it. of course it's not the best like now surveillance. Video is so much different right. You're looking at this guy and you're like okay. Well he's got light pants on. What looks like a a white shirt and you know. Some people think it's a hat. Some people think he's got a ponytail. Some people think he's got a man bun you don't know everybody's thinking something different and that's got possible cell phones. I mean it wasn't like this nineteen eighty-five nobody had a picture of these guys or girls or whatever they were. i've always thought it was a male. I see it the video. It looks like they have some kind of like man bun in the back. That's what i see people all sorts of different things. I've seen that picture three million times. I mean i could draw it for you right now if you want me to because i know exactly i know where every bar is his face to me. It looks like he's wearing khaki pants and a white shirt. I don't know why the pants too cocky. It's a black and white video. I've had people call me even at the time and said hey across the street there's a grocery store that's what they wear. I in my head had had it. That was one of the workers that had something to do with it. And i remember that day looking around. A lot of them had white shirts on. They had painter's pants they had you know khakis on and he's very thin very thin and the shoes To me they look like lower routes high top boots from day. One jennifer's brother logan has maintained that the workers at mosaic had something to do with his sister's disappearance. So i asked him if he thought that the person in the video look similar to any of the workers. He saw john's condo where any of them dress. Like the guy in a surveillance video. That's that's i. I wish Now cancer question now around so when you saw that surveillance video eight a female i to be honest be really wow was in. We were in the mall of millennia. Very clear as day sergeant rich ring police aside so video. That's a woman natural reaction but it's not it is a tonia i stare there probably will my father. Plus there's more other than him. Nobody has looked at in stared. Done anything and i'm fairly confident. It is a male that has hair's pulled back in a little ponytail high anti shaved on the sides. And i don't know if it's a work at the complex but you could go one route like look like maybe teacher workers somewhere because you can see like the black shoes catalysts like a coke somewhere bottled in the day. Nothing point to that. So i go back to the workers. We've got better teachers. Over the years people have been kind and done different things blown up at the store just different colors age and height. I guess it's really hard to now. Will yeah they told us whatever it was. What is it five. Three to five five at first the person. Yeah but the angle at which that camera hits hard to know. I think of course and that's why we don't we take with a grain of salt and we always have because again. We think five three messing with my sister outta here right and then the flip side. Well there's no blood right. There's no struggle. gen would have done some county. She would like desola- stumps us all. And that's why i personally. I think when you walk your door somehow control behind that person. Video is the key at this point to finding out what happened. I mean you know it is the most important thing we don't have anything else. We have person driving her car. That's the case in that. That's been the case from day. One you know. The point is that was on their radar from day. One has already. That's that's the case. They had her car. Somebody drove her car. That person has accused to the whole store. Producer during tanner. And i traveled along with private investigator. Mike terada to south texas avenue and americana boulevard the entrance to huntington on the green. Now you see he would be going this. There's no other camera. The cassie family hired to rutta a former federal agent to try and move jennifer's case forward or about a mile from jennifer's condo. This is the fence that we've all seen on surveillance footage and there's another camera there right. This is the absolutely the person of interest trove in through here. Believe it was this way in the angrily came in. Yes park jennifer's car where the third spot on the left when he pulls into the parking space. Here does he get out of the car right away. No we wait probably thirty seconds and then eventually gets adam walks without ever looking back never looked back just seems interesting to me for something like this to happen. You will park someone's car so close to where they live strange. Whoever told this person's ago marks or whatever the case may be they had to be in a hurry or something that you're just trying to lake out of anywhere. well actually. If the person wanted to be able to walk back you would park close so you could walk right. What really struck us was. How close jennifer car was found. Her condo and i made the trip. It was only a two to five minute. Drive depending on traffic if you walked it. It's only about fifteen minutes. Mike to rutta suspects that the person who dropped off jennifer's car at huntington on the green was somehow connected to mosaic. Where jen lived. If he knows he has to go back to mosaic. he figures. I'm not gonna pocket at mosaic. Why have to take it out of mosaic. I'll put it up the road of peace and he knows this area. He knows what type of place this is and decides is the puck the car here hoping nobody sees it for a while and then if you know what type of places is i go. No one's gonna notice right. There's been vin. He would've walked then he leaves and walks this way. And out out towards conroy. I see and so this camera. Here is the camera that likely the catch up. I was amazed at how different defense looked in person. I had viewed it many times before but only in the video. That's taller fence. That i thought what kinda hard to determine height because cassette offenses so his head actually comes up to the first bar. This bar i bar. That's not short. All that short you walk straight parody dance. And they don't know from wash the he right direction watson but again the dog scent brings them right on convoy towards jennifer's upon so it would be easy to walk from here. John's apartment all absolutely fright there while we were standing at the pool fence. I asked mike. What's it like as an investigator to watch video. We're the face of the main person of interest is blocked at every shot. I mean it's extremely i. I mean we have looked or i have looked at this tape. I would say hundreds of times. And you're just looking for that one glimpse of someone which you'll never get on this film and many people who event of viewed say. They've looked at you know what appears to be someone but nobody as you know can tell me for sure. It was just pure luck that this individual was filmed probably every few seconds and in front of the largest of the posts. It's amazing believe that that's all they have to work with. That's it and that's all we have to work with. You know we know the call was parked. We know someone got out. We know what direction the person winning in. But that is it and no matter what we try with nicer and people who can enhance tapes. Nobody has been able to give us a better look at the individual after fourteen years. That video is already hands to the one that we're looking right and i try to enhance it probably about three months ago and i was unable to do. The person said that they couldn't stretch it anymore. It's not terribly isolated over what it was like in two thousand and six but the people who live there at the time no longer on fourteen years is a long time it is just the kasese. And that's why we can't leave anything unturned. We have to see if we can develop something. We're tryin each and every day ever walking steps of this further now. Sorry i spoke with. Police chief orlando rely on to get his thoughts on the video all these years later. Have your thoughts changed. Fourteen years ago the technology was much different than the technology that we have today. If that had god forbid was to repeat itself if it had happened today. I think the outcome would have been much different. The way that phones could be tracked the way that some vehemence mb track all of that would have been a much different. Were there any important observations in that video we even have the fbi fdle a number of agencies. Nasa tried to enhance the video. They try to give us some information. Retention yield some type of description of whether it was a white hispanic male female and nothing was very conclusive. And i think it's important to keep that in mind moving forward. The chief has a point. There is endless speculation about the person of interest in the video. So i turned my attention back to the car. There was nothing taken from the vehicle. There was no blood or bodily fluids found inside there was only a single late imprint. Which belonged to jennifer. How could there be no other glues. I combed through excerpts police files. I had obtained looking for more. There had to be an anomaly of some kind and then buried in the pages. I found what i was looking for. Detective julius gauze of the orlando police department wrote of the police at the scene quote while observing the front of the victim's vehicle these detectives observed what appear to show someone having been pushed across the front head of the vehicle. I found out that requests were then made by. Opd to photograph the hood of john's car. I spoke to drew. Cassie who've you these photos for the first time last year when he obtained thousands of pages of police records when we received the files from orlando police department we had about one hundred thirty three hundred forty pictures of the car from every angle. Anything you can think of and one of the main pictures. I looked at many times in my life. It was just a better picture. I looked at it and the very front right could honestly to me look like someone was thrown down on the top of the hood arm spread out and then dragged back almost like off the hood to the point where you can see fingers scribbling down the hood. And the first time i had seen it and it was. It was amazing. And i had called myself. I said. did you see this. Because we're all reading the files as they were coming in. And what have you. And he said yeah. I saw that and we were able to get in contact with an next lead. Detective at the time and bleeds logan scope tomb but the outcome of a conversation was is we. Did you see the front car. The hood and the lead detective said yeah. That's your crime scene thirteen and now later. Wow so in reading through the files also. It was brought to the attention of the people who were processing the car. However nothing was ever done on a hood of the car as far as trying to take. Dna samples of anything with within the car. The car we no longer have the car either in the car. Of course still those exist. Believe it or not we do know where the car is. But it's of no value to us at this point that we could see and then drew told me about another discovery. He made a boot prints looking at the inside of a car driver. See and the console. And what have you sitting there. And i'm looking at the rug. Just coming off the gas pedal and i zoom it out. And there's like a blueprint in the rock and unlike number one. That's a big whoop. Read as not jennifer and i don't ever recall jennifer truly having like hiking type stuff in like mountains. Almost stuff we weren't talking took to orlando. Police department sewed things to confront on that. But it was never processed as lou or sheep. Print not common to jefferson. It's just something that i saw looking through files in and says well look at that never written about in files or anything in our next episode of house of broken dreams travel with us to florida where we meet the people who know jennifer kesse best the thing that i have one of the hardest things wrapping my head around is. How can someone so safe fall victim to this heinous crime and hear how are disappearance has affected her loved ones. We consumed me shame to say i was in therapy sometimes. Two to three times a week very hard for people to really comprehend like how astronauts is in how crazy and the experiences that we've had hard because it's just like you just don't understand you make.

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