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Sound? All right. Here. I'm gonna slate sedate with John Taylor gadoe role three. Start with Java. My handkerchief. We left off. We were talking about how the committees. We're investigating the foundations. So there was a Cox committee. There was a res committee that we're looking into the origins of the education system, and what you know, what is it really doing versus what do people need to survive and thrive in this world, and they discovered there was a more than a crevasse more than a Grand Canyon. There was a gap between what we need to survive and thrive and be successful. Entrepreneurs pursuing the American dream with a real hope of a tanning it versus being a servile class. And these committees kind of snapshot it and said that there's some foundations and there's some things in action, and they're trying to evoke real change. And they're going after our children they were puzzled because they detected in Genda, but they couldn't figure the Genda out and with the second commission there REEs. Firestorm. Broke lose in fact, where he's was never able to finish. Thanks. The chief counsel was that caused the chief counsel. Why another was a lawyer involved with the res committee, Catherine Casey who was the lawyer sent by Norman Dodd to go into the archives of the Carnegie Foundation and after after being brought up in a traditional status quo education. She went there and saw the actual minutes in the words of these men in these meetings, planning on how to take over this country and to take over the diplomacy and power of war was draw the chief counsel for res Don was the chief researcher, and he was out of J P Morgan earlier, and he had said you guys need to return to sound back banking and they said norm. We're going to let you go and then Carroll Reece had called him up and said norm. We want you to head up research because we think what they were describing his communist activity from my research in the comprehensive and see. That was the bet and all of the moment. And so that was the easiest way to organize, but it was something far far more profound than communism. Yes. Right. So that gets back into pass the lowly pestilence. Z lavender other people who are intellectual elites who joined clubs the variant illuminated was one such club. That has a lot of the intellectual elite of the area getting together in their drawing rooms, they're drawing out the plans for other people's lives. And they basically when you look at the origins of our education system in America. It goes directly back to Adam by Souths plans, which are planned on earlier plans, but still there is an organized effort to go after our education system. Well, there's one more recent than that it was the metaphysical club at Harvard right around the turn of the twentieth century and it contained such muscular figures as we in James. Who's the reason we have a course in colleges academic? Mik site called j that's James proced- brought that in and James was a kind of. He was a had a ligature to vaunt, although vaunting timid James. Because he wrote so much so copiously about everything, but in the metaphysical club besides William James was John Dewey all over Wendell Holmes and number of other the shapers twentieth century American institutions the most important figure though is not known to many people. He's perhaps the last major flaws ver- human history and has produced. Hey was it's pronounced peers. But it's spelled as if it were peers Charles as peers, a strange figure a part time like cheer at Harvard created the pragmatic philosophy that we in James. Tmz was proud of the chief distributor out. But you're came Maine's pairs because he's much less. How would I put it? He's much more direct than James James comes from a long intellectual tradition. Genteel tradition. And in a sense James, Joe straw to say, and every situation Pierce is very nakedly describing that pragmatism. He doesn't make this connection. But I have very similar to the old Norse religion that said praise ice when cross the woman on her deathbed in other words, no pre determinations until you see performance Pierce said the truth and Joe. Justice flatly do not exist. This was picked up by the way by all ruined our homes who then said truth and Joses are what the strongest members of society say they are and any sane drudge decides case before years the arguments because you don't want to rattle the framework of society. I mean, this is big time. Radicalism? Of course. Didn't see it that way at all saunas, nitty gritty truth and all these superstitious sentimental additions had -cluded. The fact justices what strong people said truth is same thing. So that's an evolution of content philosophy where they removed cause and effect and then their rationality can be rationalized. Yeah. Course, they they left conce is it. It's one of the three critiques. The probably the best in light show defense for the existence of God is from con that that was convenient for this group, but pragmatism if you now connect pragmatism with the concept of justified sinning from Calvin you have an absolute blank check in any situation to invent truth in Ventura's, sacrifice, biologically, inconsequential, people and invent any excuse for doing that you want seems to me that's been the driving force in an American affairs for a long long tone there. But interestingly enough, it's been the dry. Driving force of an intellectual elite books through history. It's just they didn't have the dominance. The technology gave them burcin. Russell has this quote. He's is quoted, but when you actually read the book the sentence starts with as a paraphrase as as feast would've wanted the purpose of education is to remove individuality and self reliance and all these other things. So the idea was that Bertrand Russell was noticing that what with feast in the in the nineteenth century was trying to do. But didn't have the technology to do that. They now in the Norbert wiener Bertrand Russell area the twenties. Twentieth century now had the ability to mass mind control, billions of people at the same time, and it's all done on a basis of irrationality denial cause and effect. But that goes back, you know, you can start looking at the where the influence of utopia took Place Route. And Francis Bacon with new Atlantis and how it goes up. And then it's just formalized by some people using other jargon psychology and the twentieth century and the pragmatism, and it's all just a they want to do what they wanna do anyway. And they just keep using education. The kind of, you know, say well, this is a good reason why we're doing this. Yeah. Well, here we are. Then what thoughts do you have about the amount of people on the origins of this country that were literate versus the amount of people that are literate today. It's quite fascinating. Because the political census of Connecticut bleed that was sixteen ninety hobey the very very early on showed a pup Yele Shen that was for all your purposes entirely literate. We also have the. More than circumstantial evidence. If you simply look at the popular rioting in early colonial times, it's taught in a seminar level in coal. It's today. It's. As well known normal as phantom more Cooper's last of the Mohicans is in truth unreadable college for not because he's. Nada skillful writer, but the allusions to science and politics history. Ables swords is so comprehensive in interwoven that the allusions himself defeat an ordinary raider, including an ordinary coal reader the. Book I saw in your bathroom common sands sold six hundred thousand sold in a population of three may and. You know country that was half surf slave. And now you can find it on several Princeton University shirt cargo. Because so many people were literate the origins of this country. They were able to publish these pamphlets. So when you'd have propaganda on behalf of the elector of Hanover, better known as the king of England. Yeah. And you had these retorts by Thomas Paine who's not from America, he emigrated here, and he doesn't have a formal education. But but somehow he figures out how to put things together from south and speak in a way such that the common person can really get something from this. And you know, it's not so much as aspect as propaganda. He's propagating idea. But just describe the fact that, you know, just being able to have the printing press and somebody who could pick up these ideas without being through their formal schooling has the power to change and influence a country, and inspire, revolution, etc. Etc. Oh, yes. And. In pains ks what he had mastered is even today when I tell kids is priceless to master, no complexity of ideas, can't in fact with the pains on the part of the speaker, the writer be reduced to plain, talk and speech without. Was on harming the delicacy, the idea and pain really hit that on the button, his quite a model and a sense. It's like if you wanna ride adventure stores wanna read Edgar rice Burroughs Tarzan books and the Mars both 'cause you're just propelled from beginning. Dan on a somewhat more rarefied level dickens had that ability. And course, it could be distributed wholesale but doing that would hand weapons to people. You don't want to be able to be heard. You know, when you teach people to speak in think in academia as you. You reduce their factor as to their associates. There. So yeah, no, we had some very productive experiments in in mass literacy, including a phrase label, that's vanish from us was constant talk of something called the act of literacy. Well, as you read, well, you can develop original thinking, but you can't communicate. But to be able to master spoken speech. She can talk to anybody. And to actually understand what you're saying or written speech were known as the active literacy, the British government made those a crime prison -able of fence, teach ordinary people the active litter, she's not reading. Because you want your flunkies to be able to read so they can follow your orders. You can go and play golf or go fishing. But to actually communicate dissident thinking and writing you can reach way beyond. Yourself. So the active literacy are you find in the handful will lead private boarding schools, this tradition preserved in fact in the kademi tradition. All over the world is a clear understanding the to blink. You're on is and knock off three hundred words on anything all including subject, you know. Nothing about is stay were good. And so is severe to speak fluently, even on things, you don't you can see. And I would love to know how it was done. The current president is masterful not just good. He's masterful Denault onces speak that can only doesn't happen naturally there. Where on? Earth was that training their little figures us that have fancy let names to them. There. Of course. Bill Clinton was no sludge. But he comes out of a populist preacher, truly ish in his masterful. As what he does. But the other is is formally trained. Science of speech. I listened to the modulations can shift wanted him to another said somebody was all I'd background. Oh, the world who's my dad is my, mommy. You know, something intervened there. It's no accident puddle that Bill Clinton suddenly emerges from a state in which Rockefeller's the governor. Who was who was Bill Clinton's mentor? Well, he has Roddy of mentors the very fact that he steered into Yale which is. Which is probably of the elite universities the one that keeps the class tradition. The British clients to most actively a law. In fact, they all fled from Harvard when the Unitarians took over and her talking. We're all in this together. So they bailed out of Harvard headed west drop the biggest load, no pun intended in New Haven, but contain online that you can train all the way across to Seattle leaving behind traces of this. Brilliant class based thought I once years ago on don't ask me to reclaim it now, but I want actually did trays that the movement from the evacuation of Harvard in body teen five eighteen ten what did happen was the Unitarians who were one of the great Harris. Sees of of you know, the last five hundred years they worked out a way to initially convert to whatever religion had a church in the area. And then when they were the majority they would vote the thing out of business take the assets in real putting his unitarian parish, the the entire Massachusetts school committee. No accident. Every member was unitarian even that there were less than one percent of the Massachusetts population. Because that understood leverage. How you wolf what is the symbol of the Fabian socialism Britain, that's the wolves in sheep's clothing. Big laugh at how easy it is full. The funny thing is. Kidding muggeridge? No, excuse me. The Beatrice Webb who who is really Fabian socialism. She carried her husband around, but Beatrice's the welfare state architect. She was the niece of Herbert Spencer. The most star tick Hewlett intellectual racist in human history. Rouge hog Don, she sat with him. On his death bed for six weeks and both of them. Agreed. They were after the dentist goals. But by different means, he said exterminate the the famous line from heart of darkness and chase said kill with kindness. You know, I notice you had I rant on your shelf. The idea of Dayton care or somebody else apart from the innocent chair will thing is that you ruin them by doing that. It doesn't take very long Derulo them. So the trista the Fabian and the great conservative Herbert Spencer. Same blood Lon. Same goals, different method. All. Fabian, socialists. Also founded the London School of economics among many other things Sydney NBA Atroush web. We're working with Arthur Balfour and the society for cycle psychical research. I believe and the one of the other characters that was spinning in that crowd. A guy named William T stead who was editor of the review of the reviews died in the Titanic and was the editor in chief over that last will and testament of sessile, John. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. And I have no idea how he pronounces them. But I would call it. Steed was the character in. The lady with the black leather was. Oh, sort of international spies series on television about twenty years, Diana Rigg. What was the famous lead? And Steed was was an inside joke. Kind of like the JAMES BOND films. Are joked m I six AM Fleming's ho career and JAMES BOND was an ornithologist which is a bird watcher, which is what JAMES BOND is he's watching girls and playing this whole game for the beers cartel controls. And if you believe in justified saying, that's what allies sit kill is is for her majesty or whoever on Thomas Paine had some words to write about where monarchies draw their idealistic power, and who created crowns, and these sort of ideas, where somebody is born into a situation where they're allowed to rule over other people, and that's collectivist man mentality where they expect you to sacrifice yourself to the state so Prussian schooling is definitely created to uphold that status quo. What is the equal opposite? How do people transition themselves remain individual and grow and learn and do these things for themselves. Well, I think they're rod. Body of smaller inspirations, besides the fact that if you and I are correct. It's the natural instinct of people who sort of been made aware the life and the are alive, but. Oddly enough, the congregation one's very little white Spar, beautiful churches that once I believe you couldn't vote in this less your world on. They taught. That the press Petir aliens as Milton said, new press bitter is but old priest writ large because they met together once a year and as said that will roll in new having this collective mentality. Congregation his sovereign in a real congregational surge. I don't know how they've mutated through history. And the minister is simply. You know, the the official of the moment to organize the back and four, but the minute the minister becomes chick here online Audi go, and usually if we ask for more money because the minister is a functionary the congregation gets the word directly from God. This is of course, Martin Luther. Enormous breakthrough which he couldn't sustain that. What probably the great freeing line and human history every man his own priest. No organizations necessary. It communications director congregational modified funded and said, there's some value and other people's paying not too many other the people who show up and donate to the church. We want to hear what they all have to set. But the minister. So well, so that was one source for a long time these dissenting and independent religions that were unwelcome in Britain came here in the so much space. And it was so disorganized cities. We had this infinite splintering. So that was that was once I think the scale of the country it self which couldn't be really monitored until very recently long ago. It occurred to me. That when you when you have to depend on say horses. No telephones not lie pads when you get about twenty miles from the center, they know what you're doing once a year blue moon, they send somebody out, and you say, whatever the guy wants their back goes look side. Everything's cool. That's how we had. There are no continuous government in human history. None of them last very long. And I'm sure it's because this ferment on the fringe, which is very far away eventually fatal to the idea that the hierarchy Huma speak, preserve I think that's just a sign that there's so many people in this country when things can get that obviously rational that. There's just no intellectual. Self defense. There's no one left to form a sentence. Let alone a paragraph. Let alone have the power to get it printed in front of millions of people anymore. And that's what I noticed. No editor would dare printed. Anyway for fear the ads for draw. Senator Oscar Callaway and nineteen seventeen address the congress, and he said that the J P Morgan interests the shipbuilding powder. Interested all together and bought the top. They placed editors at the top twenty five newspapers or the control the content on political policy and military policy. So that was really the declaration the first origins of the council on foreign relations which goal is to kind of control and mold. The minds of the masses using official experts and historians and southern close vote -ly gun how about Harry Truman speech before the US Senate in nineteen forty two denouncing the Rockefeller interest as traders 'cause they are selling oil to both sides. What he didn't know was that the Krupp cannon makers were doing the same thing making the German Ken, solely to the French. Or anyone else? Anyone else would bother them? They had already become a virtual Goebel society. But chose. Muncie Asia, the Rockefellers before the send you would think that would be just sell drain sharing with generations of school kids now doesn't exist role pride yo person. Let's you're willing to sit in the well, my Jerry's sentinel library stacks and goes through. I did that in Columbia. I said I'm going to find out on I'm going back to. Nineteen fifty eight. So I got a stack pass I've never heard about stack down like in the six level disease, huge stacks of popular magazines. I'm interested to find. What popular newspapers magazines said about the second World War before it started for like the ninety days before starting? Let me tell you to a publication. They're not only was a certainty. There was gonna be war. But no worry at all. They all agreed that there was no -bility on the part of any potential enemy to sustain ore that all the gains would be right away. Then they couldn't replace their laws. I noted that Quigley's said not only did the British store the war with the larger force in the Germans and more Vance technologically. But they could replace their loss, isn't a Germans could and the jabs couldn't. At all. So the ended the war with the same plane. They began the war with well. This was understood before we had or as a good way to get out of the depression could would cow dissonance in the population. Always is sitting Claire national emergency. Then you have an excuse for closing for. It was speech. What's it quickly? Do it was so unique or remarkable that no one else has done before. Well, what Carroll Quigley the head of the foreign service department, George stone university? No marginal school what he did. Was used his invitation to really only human being ever invited to view the files council on foreign relations. And I believe it's predecessor also what he did was. Actually, write a major piece of non fiction must be thirteen hundred words pages long fairly small print, and he made the fatal mistake of being superb writer and thinker. So that success? Anyone gets oh really copy of the book that was quite impossible, beginning six months after the book was published, and I can just see the main script must've been this big. So an editor. Ans- to vet thing. Make sure. Yeah. After all, George John. This guys say our goes MacMillan, publishes that sells out instantly instantly and any conspiracy theory you've ever heard of his document or not as a conspiracy there. Here's the name the date the actual could God. Well, somebody got hung for that MacMillan broke the plates told Quigley there was no interest in the book all broke the plight. So it couldn't be Brennan Quigley's on a tape recording right at the end of his life that store done in George shown stakes saying that they lied to him that they had tons of who wouldn't wanna read the book. I spent six months looking for copy of book and finally found one in in the rare book room at New York University and had it stolen. And then a couple months let it because I'd looked in so many cities I got a call mysterious. Call from a fellow. I think turned out to be a dentist headed radio show is okay. Stan monte. Yes. Same on t he said understanding you're looking for. Well, I said do you know where? Yes, he said, I have some copies, Chris he had reprinted copies. And after one teeth over the next couple of years. Several other people had taken the m- the kind of the Millen reprinted so much in fact that it became the basis for a growing number of a wear people. They weren't sure what they were aware of other than. Than the story was not as the livered. Not in junior high and not at Harvard. It was a different store. It was a story could come at a two fraternity brothers fail running dense run another president, the big agenda. But but Quigley's real gift to the rest of us is his absolute mastery of pros, and his really interesting mind and his confession that he agreed with the pond, he's simply has a good Roman Catholic didn't appoint with the secrecy. He said, I believe there's nothing anyone can do about this. Anyone? It was marvellous. I'd go back whenever I feel despair and not an easy. It's an easy read because so well written, but it's a big trunk. He says, for example, the only times liberties ever peered in human society is one the population is privately armed with deadly weapons and to reach the acme of liberty. The halftime the same weapons available to the government has to them. And yet we're not talking about some guy rolls who's call her going about this internationally famous sculler. So while the beginning, the American revolution, the people who are fighting against the British government had equal arms. They were landowners. They had. They had interest. The fight over that stopped being equal in the nineteen thirties with mechanized warfare and mass production because they've had Prussian education place for eighty years. Now, everyone's an obedient worker and on Straka allows a lot of people to do things that they normally wouldn't do. But now it's part of their job. And now, it's their responsibility. Now, it's their duty. And all the things that mill grim drove home through experiments, look, these people will kill people if you put a white coat on. Yes. Well, it's quite exciting. It's a hideous turn Hewitt is. It's quite exciting. The conference of surveillance mechanism prevents local groups from developing are these Arabs have done. The only thing which there isn't. A successful defense. And that's so Bo just the Japs that the end of World War Two to blow themselves up to bow babies up to blow. No women very often. But sill they're beginning to appear as human weapons what you can do is suppress activity. But you can't do it and say, we're a free society worl- in the game together. There are four copies. I think of tragedy and hope around have you seen the first addition I have wondering when MacMillan has been forced to reprint, very regionalized here too. And I'm wondering, and you don't have to delete key sections, Sylvia. Big book to take the real stamp. I thought somebody with young is a lot of stamina on a sit with original addition and the reprint just to make sure. We're doing afternoon we have a first addition, and we have several reprints around. Oh to let me know because I have other people. See the idea, and I could say there's projects and underway wanted to soon. We'll check absolutely what do you think about Quigley's book Anglo American establishment? You know, I was again, I was impressed by the thinking and the scholarship, but I think the presentation put it. Beyond the reach not banned, the understanding but beyond the reach ordinary people without a coach. And I do think we have a pressing need to find without deluding the complexity to find the. Liam. Think to richer Lear dries means sane things. I've been rewriting for years because trauma, and I'll feel that our audience misses the. Plugs in it's almost as if the audience needs a little bit of, you know, reinspired their curiosity, but then giving them a methodology by which they can start to reignite their learning. And then once they bring their attention and consciousness up a little bit. Then they can receive some of these other messages and meantime, we can be coaches and help them kind of get that the. We mentioned this earlier put too great favor. Charles Darwin did for people I may is to dight the Irish is hopeless biology because my full ours you say don't trust, and I'll broken schoolteacher book up go to the hour sect. Because it's unmistakable his scored contempt to dismiss them as irredeemable the Spanish zero do boulders quite a little cattle of people not Swedish bonds. No, Dr Darwin does that because instead of observing how things actually work they were trying to carry out an agenda? So he creates these ideas, and he said under these ideas, you people can do what you want, and it's gonna make them hopeless. And if you think you're hopeless, then you're not really aspiring to climb up any ladder because there's no ladder because you've been told you're hopeless, and he gets them to basically self amputate their curiosity, and then they bring in compulsory schooling. And that Qatar as the whole thing, they're like, you won't be curious anymore me. I think I think Darwin himself had a lot of and he's not innocent. But he had a lot of innocence. And his character goal has none. None Galt knows exactly where to drop these things because maximum damage and to institutionalize the anti-educational nature's once since itution, no. Nobody has to know what's going on at the way you make your living. And if you if you were for example, takes stand the privileges of partial atonomy among school kids, you would shrink stablishment, and that is no way they retain power or income if you were to find subsitution 's for the purchased suppose improvements and curium I mean, the truth is Purba your Cassian doesn't cost a penny to deliver. If you understand what is what you're aiming for and what you can use. It's a lot easier. Have if you have money, but what money usually used for is to purchase layer after layer. Air of interventions and those interventions prevent. The educational result. Compare contrast how Adam Smith out about money and the earning of it to sustain oneself versus today where it's just earn to buy more and compulsory status. What are you say status symbols conspicuous consumption? These is. I used to be. Enough of a favor at the Cato Institute that hours named the secretary of education, they're shadow cavern. Then it's be. That's when did, you know Marshall for it now. Okay. He was a legendary member. When I discovered what Adam Smith actually said, which I wouldn't the key people Ketu all so no, I became very very problematical because in theory of moral sentiments Smith, I'm going to give a shorthand here spent says that spend your time may money as a Mark of insanity and wanted to buy a bad line. But we should be grateful to the people who do that. Because they assemble cap a role they pay the biggest prize, and they create. Improvements for everybody else. I don't think the religion of of libertarian capitalism wishes that complication to be well under because there's no way to explain it away. He just says he's very clear that the peasants the dukes the same people. He's very clear you gotta be nuts to assemble cap. What lessons can be learned. Ben franklin. Frank owns life is best last Franklin was such almost slipped into Pittsburgh profanity. But I won't. Franken. Was not morally nice human being in any way. In fact, his his son broke of contact with him and never spoke to again for the rep for four years for the rest of their lives. So Franklin was the ultimate pragmatist. He mass graves a Quaker it even though he had no ties whatsoever. The French who financed the rebel ocean talked about this marvelous Quaker I mean, he was like a national since -ation over there. And he didn't discuss is in his dress. I mean came fush so sort of he always walked align where he could justify what he was doing. But his life is evidence from huge probably lower middle class family candle. Make always had food on the table. But his audible or is worth twinning gold many times because he explains how you can introduce the highest level curriculum a'magic Rable to ten eleven year old people that is farther would know touch with scholastic theory would bring in every night a stranger from the street, set an extra place at table. So that the, you know in house culture could be infused with fresh imports there that he and his fr. Friends to sign the without mastering high-level written prose their opportunity. I mean, he's eleven years old, and they say, how are we gonna get a big time literary style when nobody. They. They take the New Yorker magazine the day, the Tatler and the spectator written red pile or any they most toity, and they re wrote the articles in their own words, and then present the rewrite to strangers and so pardon me, sir. Could you tell me where this article might have come from? And when everyone said, oh, that's Tatler spec to they know they had mastered that come on. I wouldn't do that Harvard Yale Princeton is there eleven twelve year old boys and he's doing it while he's working a sixty hour week at labor, and he's putting capital as on Chris own business by selling beer to the printers. At their lunch hour. How does it get to do that goes to the owner the print shop, and he says, look you're letting these guys go for lunch some or coming back woozy some or not coming back at all? Let may bring the buck. It's a barren makeup penny, and they'll be chained to machine that's been my too. So his accomplishments. I me he's rezoning post-office. He's the reason as the university of Pennsylvania. He's probably the reason the German isn't a co evil in Pennsylvania because all these little German potus groups were not speaking any more than they get. By and he found ways to put political pressure in penalties on them. If they if the kids weren't rendered to English turning now, he's miraculous. Example of what nobody can do if they know what to do and have some discipline mine. I I would say nobody should not read Franklin's auto bark, very very slow. Do not read it for the story. But for the details, and you have four, you know, anybody could use. So there for Ben Franklin. What could a student learn from the life experiences? Young life experiences of Thomas, Edison. Well, Mr. Edison. From New Jersey beg his mother not to waste time sending him to school as before it was twelve years old and to allow him to go west where during the civil war were opportunity was burgeoning, and she'll let him do it a thousand miles from home. He became a train. Boy, that's the lowest job imaginable. You know, Wissel stops you go out and buy sodas or coffee. You're everybody's fact towed him, but he talked to train and to love him put a broken down printing press and the box car and then during the civil war because he was able to connect things into new realities. He. Knew that the train stations got civil war news. It's the same time the newspapers did but the newspapers didn't come out to certain our he uses printing press to run current civil war news and sit walk Shing on children at the whistle stops. He's sold the grand trunk herald. And because he wasn't the nicest kind of the world he very the prize from a nickel a quarter to pending on what the audience could he put together a substantial stake that founded his own plus he used the stake in the years. He was doing as to start three businesses each one of which depended on the advantage. She had bug going up and down the the Michigan length there. Well, let me see. Yeah. Tom years away from one of them. One of the was the he could distribute magazines and newspapers free just pick him up, but some draw point and he could put anyone out of business because he didn't really have to charge much to do that. There were couple of think one was a food business. So that when he ran to get something for the Pez Gers, he was the owner in the Bill, and there was a third one. He, of course, has one thousand and seven patents. With that day in college. In fact, when he founded G E when cold into became. He made the test for hiring executive staff so hard that he used to laugh and say nobody because you can pass this. No have all of this documented history was at your birthright if this were shared with you and third grade and fourth grade and fifth grade notice that you would arrive with the age of twelve with a whole different idea of what your prospects were rather than the your hand shaking 'cause you gotta see on your poor card, and that probably would doom your. Your career. I mean is it coladas sole crime? And I'm speaking now as it -tective story fan. I'm staying away from the moral high ground here because his so far beyond what we define as good Nevil. And for the people who do this. It is good because as. Star wins mall as Thomas month. Clearly. Climbing the mountain the high ground, the moral, and he says, it's a kindness. These people are doomed to such miserable on to hasten. Their demise. Is a great kindness to them. You worked them to death. You star. Doing God's work. He, of course, was parson of the church vanowen, which Charles was trained to be. But but. Left go we had people like Littman and Bernez who recognize that people were inherently irrational. And instead of trying to teach them critical thinking, they say, let's use fear and confusion to control them even events, but knows as their. Of the get ahold of their around translation of trick. Tatas religion. Co politic is published in sixteen ninety and any outlook have on Spinoza will change razz. They urine hands of a man who could put Adolf Hitler and his high command in the shade. He and worked all the way weren't any escape loopholes. And he sold the plan to monarch, you know, who had a lull hord slugged to sell it to. The traditional upper class who still had scraps of. A rally Turkish over L. I still had become Josephides centers. Thomas Jefferson in notes on the state of Virginia. He's. He's trying to symbol. 'cause Spinoza ideas are already in America. He's trying to assemble the possible. Good use that could come of. Of an institution schooling. That's why shallow teacher college tanks. Jefferson's one of the pioneers for what Jefferson said was. That unless five things are done. It will be a mere secular religion in since I saw that Spinoza 's direct positive program to get rid of emotional religion. That's a while card. Secular religions, okay? That's the church. You rangeland wasn't inspired men sat around and committees and figured out what God would want. We have one minute left. On the same for today. My question would be in the last minute who was Niccolo Machiavelli and wash it every schoolchild take a gander at what gotta take gander valley Machiavelli. Was a Florentine at a time. When Italy wasn't a unified nation. It was a collection of powerful city state, certainly some word Florence was one of the most powerful, but it had important rivals and Machiavelli. Was a middle level politician call him, and he was in basis. So he wanted to it was the famous Borja van Jezreel Borja Medici. Yeah. He wanted to. Hey, wanted to do what Henry Kissinger did is established himself as a fountain of utility for the boards us, and he really add an excellent mourned, and it's hard to tell what his character ones because his other books that are rather morally grounded but in. For the first time in history, the secrets that have been talked about drawing rooms maybe leaked to little bit like Hobbes leviathan there. Suddenly was an unbroken presentation of how the prince should maintain and large his power there. Electrified the plant. First of all, the people who are knew these things were ticked and the people who suspected for put in a moral quandary of buying now would be a deliberate choice, but for the great unwashed and for the. Religious pilot represented them here was and his name was after all neck. There was old Nick. We could give us ten years and no one could pass through school without being aware of these high or low points in the creation of their own says son, then least they would have choices. And I know someone choose to sell on. Others because of that. Quality. We send the blow. No. Do with sixty turning point. After. Pulses? Read certain talking. I was Mark where we. Probably agree on their remind me do this. National polls contradicted. For colleges. Word when that was never. Gene. Group called the trial. How will should subsidize NYU? Old crisis. She teen. Seventy five's short crisis is the people take it. Seriously. We've got trouble on her. So. How're now. Even more rigorously. Offset powers or not. Those were always. Foley offs is ready for the address. I only literate. That litters. Think of. That's his. Stay bridge. Over under stiff. Here. That's in the books. Says you. Twenty-three all of that set of tossing the grapes of the western world. Steph. Givers, mother. It's all good for right now. Some won't be up there. I just wanted to make sure. Clear. I I I would like to present you with a book not that you don't have enough books. But this particular book was written by a friend of Thomas Becket, and he wrote it for Thomas Becket for Thomas Becket didn't have in this author's opinion. Enough intellectual self defense to do what he was doing. And he was trying to help them out as name is John of sows berry, and it was written in the twelfth century. And I thought if there was such a thing as reincarnation this guy reminds me of you that you would greatly enjoy I will read it with pleasure. Well, sensory defense of logic and reason and a time of irrationality, and I took the liberty of just in a prologue. I marked a couple pages there that has some a couple of quotes in there where he basically lays out why he's doing it. I thought you know, I gotta Chuck while out of it. I thought you could always use a good laugh now and then. Will be the very next thing. All right now, I have one last bit of housekeeping say. If you could read that to the camera while at the same time holding this mug, and it'll be the intro for the episode. Or you could change it. However, you like give me that is. Hi, I'm John Taylor gadoe. And this is what you've been missing awesome yesterday. The name of our Gordon Watson came up, and you raise your eyebrows. What does that name into you? Well, it means to me Soma the magic mushroom and that Wanson wasn't some fringe not. But. Wall Street heavy hitter. So I read it was great pleasure. Not once but toilet fell book. Before you leave today. I had a DVD for you just have to burn the folder made and everything and in there. I put Watson's Russia mushrooms and history book, which is very hard to find on PDF. So I just thought you'd get a kick out. I will get a big kick out. What does the name Antony Sutton mean to you? I actually I cars spun briefly with with he he made the contact after he read underground history. And his books about the rise of a Wall Street, and they're Roz the Soviet Union Wall Street and the rise Nazism were important parts in. In a slow process of overcoming my own skepticism. I mean, I had all the pieces are had many the pieces rather? But they seemed had to reality that I could find no hint of recognition of and. In copious reading I had done and kept current. Why aren't any references? So this all k- generally when someone like Ramsey Clark would seem to breach the wall. Security Ramsey was toast. He was mar journalists. No one ever mentioned. Again. He wasn't a guest on the show. Wasn't thing. Happened to sudden because he worked for the Hoover institute at Stanford University, which is very prestigious. And then once they started reading his work. You can't write this. And he said that's the ticket out of here. I must go find out what's going on. I think you wrote like nine nine or more books on these various subjects, and when you see how Wall Street funded the Bolsheviks Wall Street was funding, the non-seasoned the bushes, and the Harriman's and all those families that were also eugenicist and the ones that want to do. Schooling and tell you what to do with your kids and all these other things like there's a very small net group. And once you try to understand the philosophy of what makes them the utopians that are trying to shape everyone else's lives in violate their volition. I thought it was like that's it's overwhelming to discover that. But then you discover someone like Sander Spooner, boss, Frederic Bastiat and read the book the law, and it's so simple. And yet if you don't understand the simplicity it's easy for these other groups that take it away from us. Yes. Very easy to marginalize as who is time for this nonsense. I mentioned our session yesterday that as I was poking around in for other reasons in the history of American adoption, I kept running into the people who were the architects of American schooling. I said what possible car spun dense? Since the chapter in underground history. Daughters of the barons are running made is actually kind of leads into my brain trying to prove to myself that was some sense and following this road. If if the heirs of the people who fought it running made had maintained an eight hundred fifty year continuity, and then I found other organizations that had I said it's possible someone with an agenda other than the so who was like nations Loyola. Well, Loyola was the founder of the army of Jesus the Jesuits who penetrated the reformation and eventually produce the phenomenon history records counter wherever I slow the momentum. Now because the reformation really is found Calvin is the evidence grease Luther every man his own praised as wild declaration of radicalism. To get rid of the religious priesthood to get rid of all middlemen. Yes, there were many countries that outlawed the Jesuits in this in the late seventeen hundreds and one of those was the province or electorate of Bavaria. And then there was. As a Jesuit professor of canon law named Adam by shout created the group what what influence specifically has that group had on education system? Well. To pursue that line would require so many allusions. I prefer not to. To enter an area where I can't feel the hardest questions with substantive facts. But certainly the sand so of powers behind the same very very strong. I mean give you a few specifics. It's been clear since the beginning of standardized testing that the tests do not predict and the best American most prestigious American universities have on their dismissed it or kept it in pro forma plays. But actually as har- Ruben Princeton told me, it's not a significant to turn. They just don't want to rock the boat that the glue that holds this Param together. They don't predict and why is ten per cent of the school year school budget devoted to exerting stress on so many millions of people and through the children their families. And why does so many innocently ignorance school to yours? So this determine your future wanted it only does if you convince your so that determines your future. It has no predictive power at all other than to signal. This is someone who will member whatever you as him to member. This is a useful. Skill anti skill and the book the Leipzig connection basics and education toward the end of the book after talking about peste losy talks about pestilence mentor, who is on casper, lavender who was working in experimenting on Swiss lower privilege children and a universal schooling system. He was also a grandmaster the minority so since Pestelli and labrador and all these other key figures that were in the Prussian education system. Yeah. We're also members of the Prussian illuminated just seem natural to see the the takeover an undermining of nationhood of our society, the taking away of our density through the school system is also making we as a nation incoherent. And it just seems like there is a very militaristic strategy. That's been in place, a long time notice what the specific mechanism is it's an artificial extension of childhood theoretically to the grave, but but. Certainly beyond the point where learning anything is easy as long as you indulge childish fears and Chow shop tides long enough, you've fact of -ly rendered somebody harmless. You can see it in its crudest form in the military and the turning over crude or in fraternities the hazing of freshmen. But actually yesterday we hope we talked about. Richard Branson and the turning point of his live at age four when his mother drops him miles from home throughout most of human history anywhere on the planet. Childhood is over by the age of seven and even in the most permissive cultures. It's so by the age of eleven or twelve people are even in our own country at the beginning of the twentieth century. A substantial number of young women at the age of thirteen were married. Her becoming married? I'm thinking particular of. Thinking of eighteen volume history of the world that used to be for twenty years the premium of book of the month club. Written by a husband and wife team and still I rather respectable history. In an inside historians. I it's not bad history. It's very very they also do a history philosophy set. Yes. I have it Gino Denning just sent to me last week. I discount in it's on my desk. If you want to go get it like all we need is is the last name trigger and any fellow who had been trained. I think it you. Sure. Cog as starion marries his wife who becomes his cO rider and weld around. Well, Durant an aerial aerial was I thirteen or fifteen there's a dispirit on the internet about how all than fifteen and I suspect she was thirteen. When they married was will some four of sexual oppressor. No. Instead of going to junior is go L studied professional has story arc or fee and its protocols, and she was a full partner in the writing. And we'll died predeceased her ten years and she continued to lecture having begun her productive life. When people began their productive laws to extend this to the late teens are beyond the late teens is the fly in the face of. I add role in American history bay in charge horseshoe. Get the twelve or George Washington being the the survey or Culpeper county Virginia is mid area entrepreneurial attitude Javer sin running a plantation his parents both dead two hundred and fifty poise. He's twelve or thirteen. But these examples go on and on on. Why have why have marginalized the young who whatever they lack in experience more than Meg up for and resilience and acuity? They bring new is sold situations, which is secret of scientific invention. So it's done because they're the most dangerous the least overlaid with these conditioning. And of course, that must've been understood way way back in history. Alexander the great after all you're noticing. You're observing the values changed since the time of our founding fathers who were literate autonomous entrepreneurial. They also grew him. They knew the value of have to or route. He did it for additional perfect. That's. What's Jefferson traveled, the planet collecting, different strains, and they had they had contests and wrote letters about their, you know, hey, I grown this strain. And does this and they're like competing, and so the fact that you're not taught about this school and the role that hemp played in making the sales, and the clothing everything was hemp to miraculously five Bor there are some rather sober counts the length, so which the Hearst family went because they were the largest far Stoner's country. They supplied the wood pulp for newspapers, but ham knows Verzar front. Superior would Paul. So the moved have an earth to create the narrative of Rafer bed. So if we're using wood pulp paper to make books these days, we're not only killing trees, which eat co to produce oxygen to make paper towels and twelve paper and all these other things beyond books. But I noticed that a lot of the books that are printed recently the pages are disintegrating, and when you get old books from eighteen hundred seventeen hundreds that are printed on paper. They're still pretty existent. We have a Johnson's dictionary from eighteen forty eight and it's it's not printed on the same would pop acid paper that we have today. So can you comment on? They undermine education. But they're also undermining just our ability to get our hands on the books to educate ourselves closing libraries, and using types of paper that you know, basically turn to. Yes. And there's a bit since I've been in college in the fifties. There's been a prevailing wise guy. Ethic that you don't actually need to read these old books because they're plenty of abstract style. Jazz these old books and existence and that will give you the gut to the old book. Well, let's take Marcus really asus. Meditations what the digests don't give you is the wealthiest most powerful man in the world. I'm dunno that confluence is ever existed after really is saying that nothing you can buy as worth adding and nobody you can order pars worth associating. That's rather. Acid. So how old were you? When you first met, Marcus Aurelius, I was a nationally in translation in sixth grade and a coal mining town in western Pennsylvania, where it was offered in translation, and of course, it's eminently readable. And then in ninth grade, there was an option of ridding at the Latin or doing something else. So my mother insisted that I rated it Julius Caesar in Latin gully, so Masui send par tastes trace at seventy Corum onum, and Colin bell had a member the early part of but Caesar's go like wars isn't some some old piece of fuss chin that you know, if you're an elitist you read. To plug into the ancient world, it establishes the principle that a weaker fours can whip a larger force, but dividing and being better prepared. Yeah. You can set a larger force against one. And you see that in schooling, the ordinary classes are said against one by constant meaningless testing and small inconsequential projects being given that people Test-best their hands in the air. So that the ordinary class are divided for a period of twelve years to meaningless call petition. I noticed when I was in basic training in the army and was told that I was going to learn and three hours how to take a rifle with fifty seven parts of blindfold and put it back. I knew that I could not do that. I knew I could not do that. And yet in a room with five hundred other. Scared. Young people. We all did it. And they didn't say and the hey finished first. You know, the important thing is what do we learn that's in hands by competition. I mean, what real do we learn it gets in the way? Because now you're rank becomes a factor rather than the quality of what you you've learned. I'm made these ideas clear to thirteen year olds at all times and found that after about ninety days, they became as addicted to ideas in the wise of things as I was whenever a new idea what a merge in that classroom. This is quite literally true. I would grab a piece of chalk. And ride it on the wall climbing ladder writer on the ceiling inside of that first ninety days. Were hundreds of digests of ideas everywhere on the floors when there was no room left front back sods the room. I had world baps and national maps, and I could lead up and point to the Arjun and the idea as we know it or simultaneously. They came as I say, it was roughly ninety days when classes that were considered the stoop. But of people never know table there live where actually they were hot to talk about ideas. We couldn't have that. How could we maintain the social order in the economic ore if we had people who became fully alive when they were young and could get up on their knocked? I think a lot of the problem. It's very easy to assign nece completely to sinister motives, and there are certainly send us their Motors at work. But I think part of it is the problem how we would manage a society that didn't require manager. And I don't think anyone's been able to solve that problem. The early America. Probably did it better than anyone. We have easy access to because I think it's not about anarchy anarchy is just a void or vacuum of government. It's about being on Thomas. And if you take away the government, it doesn't give people critical thinking or the self reliance that they need and the compassionate communication that they need to work together with other people to achieve goals. In your explanation of how you learned the most powerful lesson of doing the impossible. You knew you couldn't do that. And after an hour. So you had just done something that you knew you couldn't do I knew I could you took that experience and Utah younger people that they can do that. Because now they have more years you had to be at least eighteen to be in the army now, you're teaching thirteen year olds that the things that you know, you can't do you don't really know that you need to get that up here for ri-. So the the question that odd follow up with this. And you're third interview on nonstick media with you on urban. I I heard you mentioned these words trivia men quadrivalent. And I thought it may be something that was off your radar, but you spoke out about it. And so where do you have for me with the trivia macwell juryman? What does it mean to you? I went to Jesuit boarding school in third grade. So I'm but tween the ages of seven and a half an eight and a half years old. And the curriculum reflecting back in which I began to do fifteen twenty years ago. The the intellectual diet was not modified and anyone for our tender years and the devices of. Disipline motivation that would be used. Authoritarian or they were not cherry of using. But I do believe that their hearts were in the right place. I remember being humiliated. I told you privately about this yesterday by a Jesuit brother from Saint Vincent's college, which is across the street from Xavier kademi where are win and was beaten on a daily basis by the earth, SEL nuns. Sometimes for mispronouncing for. For. That. But the brother was talked into the middle of the second World War about the causes of the first World War, and he had written a list of 'cause on the board. I had a magnificent memory before drink and or rained. And he said could somebody fights the back of the room? Now, tell us all with causes. An I. My memory. I did word for word, and hey burst into harsh kind of laughter. And he said, you full you believe me here rice, the board and to these are the causes the war. Now, could you do it? And now chasing. I did a lot less confident lie and this time the room exploded with his scorn. He did it again here support. He said, you'll never know the causes until you embed yourself into the primary documents and see how complicated thing is is that changed my live. I wish I had a second year there. But before you can form your logical understanding, he said you need to get in and check with the the knowledge the actual grammar. What are the artifacts? Where do these things documented? What's primary sources is probably has occurred other groups, but but the intellectual part of the universal Christian religion. The Catholic church had. A respect for scholarship and what? What happens as you collect data is forms of self into patterns. And if you record the patterns and test them to see that they hold true eventually that suggests behaviors so they created a to formula a basic formula, which Dorothy sayers urge all your your listens to read her as the laws tools a learning. She's a marvelous to tech story rider detector stories, really aren't John Rao stories their comedy of manners. But the British upper class is but the trivia. Mm-hmm. Was coming becoming comfortable with a pattern of thinking. And what you could. Dispel confusion? And then the Quadra VM was pushing it farther into specialized areas, one of the huge mistakes that schooling makes even home schooling is so organize. Is organize the agenda and the goals in terms of subject, learnings English mass social studies science because those categories while better than K o or so crude they tend to mask what you're actually after take the universal study of the English language. What you're after is a master of the written line bridge. The spoken line. Edge and your own riding. So you've got these three divisions. And now if you're after those things your measurements, not to memory its performance, which is so much more accurate as we spoke about a little earlier in this session to standardized tests, aren't predictive, and every I 'cause university knows that you don't select people because they scored hair on the and say t's or whatever other administered because they end up disappointing you, and you waste people who actually in real life. We don't use standardized tests to make decisions whereas you actually do use the trivia to observe to process that information and to make informed decisions ride. And and while there are. Personal variants. So I think the fundamental thing is every philosopher in human history and said is no yourself. This is the fundamental now you can take principles like trim and Quadra him. And you can do a personal adaptation of the you know, how they will were crew. But the course actually followed at the beginning was I know this is not good for the kids have been hard teach. And where will I found unnerving structure? I should obviously it will be in the most expensive elite private boarding schools. So I made at ten years study. Although it paid off the end of the first here and distilled, the twelve. Acre. It's of the boarding school curriculum of power now, I'm talking about not private schools versus public schools at all because most province schools fall, the template that public schools laid down. I'm talking about the inner circle twenty or so just name a few them talking about gratin or Franklin Delano Roosevelt emerge. I'm talking about Saint Paul's where the Senator from Massachusetts ran for president that tall skinny guy. John Carey a merge, I'm talking about and over where the Bush family tying about choke where John F Kennedy Amar. I'm talking about one that not one person in ten thousands ever heard of a Piscopo in Virginia. Or John McCain the populace give me a break emerge. I learned about a Piscopo from the sports section of a newspaper. I'm lookin' for the next Pittsburgh power defeat and suddenly tiny item. That says the homecoming football game for a Piscopo prep school Virginia twenty five thousand alumni showed up somewhat. It's gotta been misprint. I mean, I can understand a thousand twenty five thousand people came from all over the world for a high school. Now, I started to look and discover that have Piscopo it's the naked revelation of the importance of religious tradition in upscale education over half of the elite boarding schools in the country, and all of the inner circle ones are grounded on religion almost all on the Anglican religion, which isn't faith based it was put together by committees. Arguing about must have been God's Ma. And. But but also a respectable number. That are Quaker here we're talking about a tiny fraction of the population. No more than one hundred thousand people it's produced in the twentieth. Century two presidents. How is that even possible Satistics? What would a book you say? The odds of this little splinter group who we all are toiling are innocent and unworldly and pious. So anyway, so I got the twelve I'd like to if possible go through a few of these because I had doubted them instantly to Harlem kids, and almost immediately began to produce result. It was roughly ninety days because I don't believe that anything useful to them is going to school. But after about ninety days these kids start winning competitions with the inner circle kids, the Upper West side of Manhattan. Instead of being amazed and wondered about I'm called and of child abuse. These people. Do you must've written that for I said, I will confess? I corrected the spell the punt joy. But that steel trap set of ideas, proving that case is not mine, I'm not up to that standard there. So I began to get hot water ever since share a few. We all are vaguely aware that literacy is at the heart of an intellectual inner live. But what we don't understand is that prior to the first World War literacy, commonly was divided into pass literacy reading and active literacy speaking and writing, and none of us are aware that in colonial days to teach active literacy to ordinary people was a crime why because reading you're locked in your own head, and you still have the benefit of being able to read the boss's instructions about what to do. But if you can speak well as our current president can or right? Well, you can reach way. May be on your own skull. And where he crew Allen's that's a no no for narrated. People those supposed to be so in our take. Are there? Right. Look. So funny was ink blots and things known treats them seriously. So strong competencies in the active literacy are at the core of elite province boarding schools like Groton, Saint Paul's trout. Lawrenceville gunnery hotch his and each one of those schools, by the way has some legendary tycoon as a patron or sometimes more than one canton. Connecticut is J P Morgan baby. So. No particular order inside into all institutional forms. Here's suppose the logic the steps, so we arrived at a prison system or a libraries all the other the military system. Obviously. Third. Here's some of your listeners watchers viewers will be schoolteachers. And if you teach history or literature you will run into. A great deal difficult moving kids. But if you approach those subjects and share this with kids that what we're after here. It's not a good story or memorizing details from Jane Austen for the where after a theory of human nature, and anyone who's written a book that lasts more than their own time has spent years closely observing people in interaction and the trace left fun as an insight that you might spend a lifetime and never have. So that's what we're after a theory of human nature drawn from history or philosophy or literature or law or the greatest troves at sun examined is theology. I used to go. To auctions and the boxes religious books fifty cents or dollar from from a century ago. Nobody wanted them at auctions. I bought them because they were cheap. But one day of a barn. Upstate New York. I picked one up I and I was in. They ends of an intense thinker who was drawing on all his strain of philosophy to create an insight into human nature there. And I said interesting that theology is something that we don't we don't regard at all for ordinary people. So a few other of the secrets of the boarding school curriculum power mastery of the social forms. I would say it didn't take more than two days to take kids who had never eaten off a table cloth. And get them to see the signs they give off one. There's eggos spill on the shirt or when they walk down the street listening to the radio or when they're too aggressive and approaching somebody shots off opportunity. They're like little badges that I don't want to speak to that person. And a lot of what we a lot of what we consider as racial or ethnic prejudice is simply the disguise of these social forms is unknown to the person who then is discriminated against. And I said don't believe. I said I'm going to instruct you in a superficial gloss of Hotta approach people. And then they intellectual excuse will use as I'm sending you out of school for days together. Data for statistical processing we're going to test. The local the local comparison with what the New York Times says the nation is thinking, and I'll teach you the elementary statistics and one class action that you need it's true adamant project. But meanwhile, you don't want to protest someone having jumped back or say, if you don't get away found call the place, and that's what you think will happen because of the over racial prejudice on the liberal west side, but it won't happen. I guarantee nor did it. Nor did it the transition. I don't I won't set was one hundred percent. But it surely was eighty per cent simply from having a gauze on these social forms, and then this should they should tickle people. Watching this. Sigmund? Then suddenly I saw. The rules of access to the great institutions of New York City by young people which required. Let's say at the sub treasury building. Where the gold is kept on Wall Street one teacher for every five students. Well, a public school class thirty students you're not going to muster sixteen years, but I sent to kids how do they know you're not at your while. We're only thirteen putting knows that they know it because you're chewing gum with your mouth. But they know it 'cause you're scratching your ad. They know it 'cause you slouch they know it because you giggle they know it because you carry a notebook that falls on the ground every few minutes. Paper goes everywhere. Why don't we master wanna call student who could be a certain teacher what signs? Would give they carry a clipboard caulk at an arrogant angle on there. They would be slightly nasty and taking it -tendance every few minutes or say when your mother hears about this jog. I said let's see if we can pick five people on this class and Panitan security at the sub treasury building at the mayor's office, anywhere. We were never caught on on the Bronx sue says one for every fifteen kids, but how you're gonna even get to teachers to take his the Bronx that well, it's easy. If the kids can shift from being thirteen to be aired in college student teachers never caught in eight years of doing this. Well, that's real selfless amick is real confidence experience and the be able to go into Columbia sit in the back of a class and see what college is like before you have to go to college takes away a lot of exa- IRA. Why you said that? But we oh, okay. We were only twenty blocks from Columbia, and I have a degree From Compass. Understood that the law school class three hundred people and these banks and the only one. No, one takes tendons. They're your your grade on the test are evidence of whether you've been attending or not. But if you sit there slob pulling gum in your mouth. Yeah. Someone will say who are you never caught once? So so our age this artificial extension of childhood that we talked about the beginning of this. This particular session is a secret of crowd control or people become their own prisoners by Dopp ding that cultural sons they're immature or they're not about our group. And simply by seeing these things as lying widgets. There isn't one English language. You know? You know, the ten that are modified, according to the, you know, someone like a bomb. All I'm not sure they understand this and they can shift effortlessly one ADM to another. And I would say that the kid. I would say look here's why you're reading English poetry now. There are a lot of reasons. But here's why we're doing you're gonna find that the ordinary unit of meaning and English language is three hard stresses long are sometimes four but often it's two three or four. But as you enter the relevant, a lack, and you have more to say or more no onces to say you need larger units meaning five. That's I am pentameter even six that's XM monitors. The the Greeks us seven September's, and I want you to feel that and you'll feel at by reading and memorizing some of this poetry. You'll have you'll have the. Models building tier and to shift back and forth. Courting your audience there. Shakespeare to the eggnog current right Siam pentameter, lawns one of the reasons. You don't want to even look at. Yikes. Fairs all on same pretty much the same. But I'm going to teach you something that he no four centuries ago. It looks like they're all the same length, but there's a breath pause in this speech after two heartbeats the next sprouts. Pause is twelve before you've delivered your me three four. There's this enter jazz at work underneath this regular pattern. You can learn to do that. Once someone exposes the. Sacred to you. That's have the game in the other half. The game is simply building the models end here. So she don't have think now here and yet we use an accident Cise. If I tell you immediately turned horribly dull riders into lease modestly interesting writers, and it's totally mathematical. I said it'll take a while to cooperate. What I just said. So what I'm gonna ask you to do is write one to twenty on twenty pieces of paper, put them in some sort of container and draw them out at random, and then Liz, what you've drawn random on a said now, you're going home not for homework, but to learn this massive scale, and you're gonna ride a paper on exa Jiang. And if one is the first number of the count the first sentence will be one word on one beat on the Seguin's twenty. It'll be twenty on me. Mmediately these har- member I'd read honored and twenty these things and time and one of the reasons they were are they were all everyone had either a three or four unit or a mixed your, and they're now they had the kind of trans that readers aren't completely conscious. But they were court as something managers thing about he won't. He's writing about a Bill separator, and you as a filmmaker remember is in signs film of the peasants watching milk being separated on a Russian farm in the nineteen twenty. Why is it? So awfully interesting. 'cause he ender stood things that the I is looking at the move of light around the screen. It's looking at entrances. Accents thirteen year old kids from Harlem can master these grits just as well as twenty five year old Harvard students can and then they become pretty turn naturally sophisticated. What are how do you know these things because there are birthright, we're biologically quipped to learn as why unless somebody sticks or in inner veins. And says reject London member. Overt about the hardware. Two for a minute. Just saying this. I think the came in. Candle was moved. Monitoring. I think and I won't be as windy and the rest, but I think that everyone will provin you'll see some evidences of the trim at work here. These are the twelve secrets of the elite boarding school. Curriculum power we on yet or just one second. We'll be. Just one second. We'll be back on the next one. That's what people don't learn of. Specifically, what is different they're doing this? This is about their success in life managing the other people who don't know it how. Yeah. Well, the next one will be an absolute I'll open or the took me about five years to tease the admissions procedures at Sarah Lawrence, or you know, the other inner circle colleges. Change. Turn lights up. Seventy I do anyway. Okay. All right. We've all heard about the hard way to learn John. Is there an easy way? To learn. If you'd be gin. And understand yourself thoroughly. And you have a lot of raw experience. I think natural. Powers are released. And I do believe that all the graceful easy. Learning comes from people who are comfortable inside their own skin understand. And people had a lot of early experience. And I operated on those principles even though it was illegal and a public school setting. I said aside one full day a week. I won't get into the politics of how this was pulled off. But it was never easy where the kids could follow their own in things anywhere in New York City. They wanted to go one fold a week where I took them on group project different parts of the five boroughs in New York City that would group projects that would end up with tangible goal such as testing, I remember this one my. Amuse you're the people watching the New York Times announced on the front page, but three weeks before the Ed Koch Dinkins election of me say nineteen eighty somewhere around there. The Dinkins was hopelessly behind by seventeen points. And I had a black kid in the clients come up on me, why the city was so prejudice Awadhi is. So new said well, look at the. And I said, why do you believe that true? Maybe that's to get you not go and vote. I don't know. I said, but I do know that it says here in small print that they only enter here. Three hundred people say may of us. I said there's a hundred twenty people my five class as if each one do twenty interviews, and we do it. According to the way, you get a random distribution, and that that's easy enough to find what we can have many times larger sample then. So that happened we gather the data we processed that. And we discovered about a week at the time. So hopefully behind did he actually was had by. Fraction of one point. That's quite as skew. Luck shouldn't came. Hey one and the close rice and New York history. But no is that a random group of one hundred and twenty thirteen year old had produced. More accurate information. The math in statistical processing is hardly daunting for a fifth grader. You know? So why aren't the seventy million captive school too involved in nothing else? Data-gathering obviously, it's a crucial part of calmer. Well, the must be a reason they're not use that. Why nor do they hear about sampling until they're in call. For the most part. Why not according to Alfred north Whitehead one of the major mathematicians of the twentieth century. Other than addition. Subtraction multiplication division, the only crucial piece of math for everyone to learn the single sampling predictions because the society the economy's organized around those things the politics is organized around. Those thing said that in aims of education, which I think was published in the mid nineteen forty sixty years fi. And whereas it he's hardly a radical. Is a possible to train fleas before you break their will. And what can one learn from the gene sequencing hobbies of eleven year olds. I got a foundation award at a fancy hotel Washington DC oh about fifteen years ago. It was certainly a while ago. And sitting next to me was an eleven year old boy receiving the same award from the foundation. And I'm and I was tickled little skinny Chinese hid. And he has. Made some scientific break. So, you know, I'm paid or nauseam the way I've been trained to do. And I said, well, how did you learn to sequence chains instead of swimming, swimming, champ said that have a lot of? A well the love in your own kid, and these days I understand he's a college professor and Seattle. But in any case. He said mon-. Goeller? My grandfather explained to me. The way trained flees. He had a soft part may because I used to go to Hubert's flea circus on forty second street and watch fleas draw Roman chariots and swing on trapeze. You gotta break their spirits, if you put fully in container instantly leap ball and had all all directions because they have flea agendas and even they all the same direct individual agendas. So he says you gotta you gotta break that ton of me in the flea. I in a way it do that put him on a container small with a little and the fleas keep attempting to follow their own agenda, and they strike themselves over and over. Yeah. Come back in and are so they're all hot rolled in a man. Together now. Yeah. They don't even try escape. Now. He said, you can impose your will on the flake, the men at the eleven year old kid said that to me I know that I had been hired as the lid on the container not that I hadn't sabotage it somewhat. But nevertheless, that's what we all had been hard to do. And this principle was understood training fleas was a delight of emperors thousands of years ago and whoever train those these under so the principal and saw the could be applied as it is in military training to human beings as it is in much religious training. Not all but much got a character. Like Vaughn to believes that children have no soul, and he's design. Owning an education system. And then you've got these Maquiavelian techniques being layered on top of it of how to break the will of animals, and it's being used to train our children. Yeah. What surprising is these insights, and even these territories that don't depend on modern technology. I understood a long time ago and the only subject the Roman kalija in the fifth century was a put an umbrella crowd control. How you divide to conquer what buttons on the human organ? You press produce certain sounds that's sixteen centuries ago. What has happened in the iterating sixteen centers? I forgot that. Or was it ahead has become amazingly sophisticated. Less and less people necessary to produce more and more leverage. Is there a connection between the ideals of someone like Calvin his housing, a theocratic state and modern states like Israel. What's your also built along the same theocratic terms? I think. Am trying to be as fair as possible to the villains. And I think there's some impulsion and everyone to have certainty that even as babies were aware, how many accidents I want menaces out the jeopardy certain. So. To follow. A list of rules algorithms is emotionally very satisfying. But it does work. Every one's lot doing it. And the minute everyone's doing you don't have to do it. You now are handed freedom. But because the menace has been reduced about other people experimenting with humanity and Laura during its boundaries, and then I can all clear cores your capital. If that's the reproduction thing. I hope we talked about that yesterday because it finally was the tipping point in the late nineteenth century as corporations were in large during and layering themselves. Men like cornet in Rockfeller, Aster, they were fully aware that human ingenuity was a tremendous risk to capital formation to talk people out of there. Well on the grounds that you can multiply doesn't work if too many people invent ways to do something better than your investment, you know, the capital destroyed. So the easiest way to manage the future and the president. Of course, they saw a series of financial crises all through history, but especially in the nineteenth century where the Buddha the master had been lifted off ordinary people or recklessly inventive America. Producing more inventions all the world put together you can't have that. Because on that new base. The next base is going to be frightening. So a term. Existed and exists, but it's been camouflaged. And and the Tony first century called over production. You have to use government to control over production dumping too, many goods or services on the Mark that can't absorb in the easiest way to do that. And I you try to licensing and other kinds of government subsidy to favored group, but I'll remotely the killer app is remove the ability to be invent from the ordinary, man. These days it's called over capacity because to penetrate what that means is much harder than to see instantly well production, Maine's then a second. Second menace emerged in the late nineteenth century. But by nine the light nineteen sixties. It was clear it to have to control that's called, hyper democracy. If too many people take democracy, seriously and understand how to form alliances with one another to confront power with power, then parv becomes much. Some fact. So when the kids stop the Vietnamese war waves of I mean, this was so intolerable the cost to privilege class of this rain of money, the cost of the government of not being able to suppress the on the grounds that this is a margin. Couldn't be allowed to happen. Again. The trilateral commission gave me the the bright guy needed to understand this more precisely they underwrote the publication of a book called the crisis of democracy in nineteen seventy five published by New York University press. They have to have training in reading, but twain the lines because the sophisticated power brokers aren't naked -ly making these statements. But if you read crisis democracy carefully, you'll see that the crisis is too many people took it seriously and translate the principles into action and cost the industries in the hierarchy a war that. Yeah. No now, the next war would be harder to to run to get together. It would be more Cerdan at least could make your case in those jungles. But now you're going to have to make the case in the air a desert's. Of a rock or in the mountains of that ghanistan. Why national security depends on suppressing these barefoot people and people weapons or blowing up their feet under where? They're gonna take the bread on your family smile. I remember the tamped in Nicaragua under the Sandinistas to communicate the idea that it was just a stone's throw from our southern border. And these people might pollen to the twenty and thirty year old vehicles styles while Dr nor. And tax gum. Well, we are Konomi, of course. Cannot function without warfare. So that when as things are count on the fact that we have to attack the south pole. The penguins will are clear present danger in the Paris peace conference, nineteen nineteen pre CFR formation Colonel house and these characters are hanging out. And hokey men comes in and says, we want to be free like America, we love democracy, we want to do this, and instead of helping them out helping them become free. They're like, well, we're going to have to take them out that makes it good place. We need enemies. We have to have enemy. The interesting thing about the book crisis democracy is. Spreading out like ripples from a stone upon the popular magazines, impress time magazine, did a cover story on too much mock rec- question, mar, of course, they included you bet and complicated. High tech world you can't allow experts. There. But it was everywhere. So the Tom tomes are connected, and they beat simultaneously or nearly. So what's the role of curiosity? Is it not is it not the lever that produces invention forces you really in a fun way to think for yourself there. And then it turns out that the secrets of nature or society aren't really very hard to penetrate as long as you remain curious, how do you destroy cure because we all say a little babies are always curious, how do you destroy your say? Well, one good way sit people and chairs tell them to speak when you're spoken to threaten them with uncoming upcoming tests if they don't memorize. Usually aronie is material. It's fascinating Joe me a school book. The deals with Admiral Perry's opening of Japan schoolbook last one, I looked was nominally under the ages of the librarian congress, so major scholar, and it will say. Essentially, it will say that we decided that you're paying should be part of the model wasn't fair leave them and me. And so. Admiral perry. Ceo over there and go she hit it, and they said, okay, you can have Colin basis or world take care of sunk and wear. What no one says is Perry had eleven inch naval rifles the standard of the day. The Japanese had media will can with a range for seventy five yards and parries guns could reach ten miles and that Perry impo- emphasized destructive impact of his force of three black gun boats. I mean, somebody had actually paint the boats black by destroying some structures on the shore. Then they wrote up fast. Please massa. When did the American dream become one of lifelong, servitude and debt and debt slavery? It's so fascinating that the American dream is enunciated in eighteen fifty nine by Hamlin can speaking to the Wisconsin agricultural associations that's hundred and fifty two years go, and he says the American dream is to write your own script to have an independent livelihood. That's why we don't have giant corporations like Britain and Germany and people only work for somebody else long enough to put a stake together, and they figure out what people need and then they do. So the American dream was as elementary school books was liberty freedom personal sovereignty was rather unique. And they history of political nations around the Arthur even tribal bodies. And did it work it almost immediately propelled us into a paramount position. Among. Just because there's. I'm not hostile to. But I'm also a stranger to IT and and the high tech world, but I do try to keep up with the theory of what's going on about three or four years ago. Those a wonderful and lyrical book called the cathedral and the bazaar familiar with. At all. And I read it and I saw almost immediately. What I thought nature was Aban proving itself through t. The author or authors maintain that the crowd collectively has more wisdom collectively and gave some hair raising Zampa lls, a huge gold or body in Canada wants to scum by the company. Putting its limited knew that there had to be an or body there. But it also knew that if it use the the normal procedures, and and the whole pro dry skews, the makes metaphor there that they would be exhausted. That would have to sell what they know. It's. Goldcorp today G on the exchange. So how did they discover the your body instead of going to the recognized engineers and blow all our water on one Sean on the internet. They globally put out any anyone at all from any background at all. They wanted a theory of how to find that or body and somebody who had nothing to do with mining. Pick up the book. I 'cause I'm losing the richness of the D two. But the essence of how non-experts can make some of the biggest discoveries. So well, there is a book I made a no to bring up here. There's a book that used to be required. Reading my team. Maybe still would be by middle. Physicists name. Robert Scott root Bernstein, it's called creativity. It's this. And the structure internally is so mad Ning. It's stunning. The form of. A group discussion among different PayPal. Why did that? But eventually I forced myself to read a and want just comes pouring out of is how actual life world changing discoveries are made this is an MIT textbook. Parentally by adding funds systems to a project you almost destroy your ability to make these break. People have to song is tries than have somebody could pay a lab at cetera et cetera. Are the people who transcend the conventional now that's off and then taken over by a big project, one of the most recent dramatic examples, and I'm sure you can Google or whatever the search engine term in. There was a. Two or three years ago and sixty minutes, there was an account of the new way to treat. Cancer tumors with that with radiation that any side effects at all. And then it'd been discovered by a man in his garage who was had nothing to do with cancer research. John candy. This is what you're talking about. John Kansas, Kansas, and he's he worked in radio and television, and it was a kid. He was in those. And then he knew that if you shot radio through so Madel hated up, and you wonder what would kill a tumor, but not leave the devastation that radiation does. And in fact, it did now we don't have to take it on faith, the leading cancer. Researchers in the world said this is a whole new ballgame, you know, and some key research ause pedals took the process over in Kansas is motivation one he was in the terminal stages of cancer himself, and he knows that the establish treatments wouldn't help him. And in fact, he was too far gone, and he died, I think the thing is that you Pittsburgh now. But but it's it's some major universe. But I heard there raining expert, no world. This is my all past relevant. But that's a commonality. I copied some notes of the root Bernstein bull. Aw. He said that intensive narrow son to train will guarantee that you never make a scientific bride throw. You know, you can get the best Jones Hof doesn't matter. It's the narrowness of trying the people might these prices have as wide range of mental and physical tools possible. They almost invariably play musical and servants are good at lying ridges at cetera et cetera. Most successful people in physics make it by going off by themselves and learning whatever they want to not falling the history of the physical science. What they learn from mentors is how to deal with them but good, but the established bodies of sun. Acknowledge get in the way of thinking a fresh serious. You hear these things they're so common says cycle say, of course, why didn't I think of that just a couple more here virtually every son to pine their men lie Franklin Einstein Planck Maxwell mania had early opportunities to do absolutely independent research all of them were in their early twenties, which is giving a raw to an understanding and the higher levels of the sciences that if you haven't made a major breakthrough by your middle twenties, you're not going to what you can do is head up a project and be a bureaucrat. Take credit as many college for two for the discovery of your students. But you're not going to be worth worth gambling on. Isn't a Djinnit self that limits inside. It's the imprint of rigid patterns of habits. Now, I have to dig. Wonderful quote from William James psychology. I think printed in eighteen ninety and the book given credit for stabbing psychology as an academic subject and Jones, was course. It's had Beverly feelings, but he certainly was a disciple of. This is a direct quote from William James psychology, one hundred and twenty one years have is the enormous flywheel of society. It's most precious. A it alone saves the children of fortune from the envious uprisings of the poor alone prevents the most repulsive jobs from being deserted. It holds the minor in his darkness. It keeps different social strata from mixing. Well. Just just comply. One of the insights of discovering that really electrified reading it. As how frequently the great discover in scientific arena is not made. But in the specialist in that area by somebody from another area. Completely divorced who transfers into chemistry or physics has fresh raw cuts or the habits lock the mind and plies. And makes the discovery says freedom and flexibility is much more by -able than planning in comes only by getting out of ruts and plugging into a variety of methods. So. These great truths. It isn't that we're discovering. Now, we're taking them out of the Barrio places and saying, hey, look wake up here. Now, the the world is much bigger much different than you believe it is because you've been conditioned to believe it's that why I have something here. I have the six purposes of schooling as laid down in nineteen seventeen. But the man who are named their honor like you're in education for so far from being a fringe individual the sky is the reason the Harvard on her like Jernigan -cation. Is named as it is the angles liked your looks like England's, but it's pronounce Ingles. And I would like to read you the six purposes of schooling. I'm moved having earth and took years to find this book just like trying to find pass years copy of Carroll Quigley's tragedy and. How I learned about angles from the twenty year, president of Harvard Jones Brian Cohn, and who was a poison gas specialists in World War One was very inner circle atomic bomb project World War Two was High Commissioner occupied Germany after the war. He wrote that must be twenty books the institution of schooling of which he was completely a proponent and forced he's a very very bad rider. I forced myself to read most of these folks and one of them he says that if you really wanna know what school is about you need to pick up the book that I'm referring to here. Principals of secondary education. Two years took me to find a copy of seven hundred fifty pages tiny print and as dull as you. Imagine ish in king can see. And Furthermore, it's not until you get to the very middle of the book. And I'm liable section that he spills the beans. Let me spill for you. These are the six purposes were functions as he calls the first called the just of function schools are established fixed habits of reaction to thority. That's their main purpose have a reaction to thority. That's why school Thors don't tear their hair out when somebody. Exposes that? The atomic ball wasn't dropped on Korea as a history book in nineteen nineties printed by Scott Foresman distributed. And why each of these books has hundreds of substantive airs learning isn't reason the techs disturbed. So I says the adjust of function fixed habits now here comes the wonderful inside being able to to analyze the detail. We'll give you how can you Astab whether someone has successfully developed us automatic reaction because people have a clemency when they're given sensible orders to follow. That's what I want to read the only way you. Can measure this is sit gives stupid orders and people automated follow. Now, you've achieved function one have you ever wondered why some of the foods things school? So are allowed to continue number two. He calls. He calls the integrating function. But it's easier to understand if you call the Conforti function, it's to my children as a like is possible the gift to Joe stupid as a like as possible because market research use Tissier sampling, and it only works if people react generally the same one the third function. He calls the directive shin. Function school is to diagnose your proper social role. And then log the evidence that here's where you are on the great pyramid. So that future papal scape? That compartments the fourth function is the differentiating function. Once you've died knows kids in this liar. You do not want them to learn anything that the higher layers are learning. So you teach just as far as the requirement. So that liar number five and six are the creepiest all number five is the selective function. What that means is what Dr on meant by natural selection. Your. Processing the breeding quality of each into Joe kid doing structure because school to is done as happening and you're trying to use as to prevent the poor stuff from breeding. Those wise are hanging labels humiliating labels around their neck in courage. The shallowness of thanking you know, I'll wondered because I came from very very strict scotch, our culture that never allowed you to Lear at a girl when I got a New York City. The boys were pawing the girls openly. And there was really no redress for the girls except not showing up in the classroom. Yeah. High absentee rates. Well, you're supposed to. T- structurally that that sexual pleasure is what you withdraw from a relationship and every a waste of time and expensive. So the selective function is what Darwin men by the favored race is the ideas. Sick consciously improved. The breeding stalk schools are meant to tag the unfed with their inferiority, but poor grades for media placement humiliating. So that their peers will accept them as in fear and the good breeding stock among the females. We drank them as possible partner and six is the creepiest of all, and I think it's partly wa. Tragedy and hope is about to fancy Roman name the pro pie Dudek function because zero 'Lions Roman bedtime thinkers, it was understood that to contain you a social form required some people being trained that they were the custodians of some small fraction that kids are being ready to take over the project. That's guy the honor cure, and it will not surprise you that his ancestors include the Major General the seed you're lockdown India famous for tying the mutineers on the muzzles the cannons and blowing them apart or somebody who was. Forced to flee New York City charge Mun because at the beginning of the American wherever lotion 'cause he wrote a review Taishin of Thomas pains common sense that we're going to turn him he fled and was rewarded by the British Prime. My him the Bishop of Nova Scotia those are angles ancestors. So I'll goals is. I learned. And wrote to Harvard as for access so the angles lecture strike me dead. Lord, I'm exaggerating. And all I was told we have no there is no angles lecture has been for years, and we have no records. Who the same thing that happened? When I discovered that would cover ly- the most influential school men of the twentieth century and the by law makes genius. What had been the elementary school editor how medfly and I wrote medfly throw any records. And they said we have no record of anyone named now would pick up. A now are telling me there's no angles like a we passed and I got a call from harbor from. So obscure are saying what what is your interest will? I know that I was on thin. And I said well. James cone and referred me. And his books to the man named goes like yours named now. I was wondering I get background on this fellow and list of the lectures and tone. I got a list of little cheers and instructions access the tax but not easily enough hopes. Someone Lhasa mobile burp the baby. What would jump to those? I was able to prove Harper's wouldn't publish when they did the cover us say I wrote would like from named against school probably after Jeremiah's against, but I had called. The artificial extension of childhood because I think that's the key mechanism. Work here. So. They wouldn't print the information about. Cobber because how to not only months afterward, the look through my extensive library of incredibly dull books, but schooling and open the facing page said would count really editor in chief elementary school. Publishing arm of about minimum. By the way. The secondary editor in chief was Reagan goals. So you see how this cousin the? Are. If Martin Luther is idea was to cut out the middleman and teachers read books, why can't students just read books instead of going to the middleman for their information? The. The more highly placed schooling is the more likely. It is that they do do that. They go to primary documents. They understand how suspicious all Sikandar documents are not that they aren't useful. But they give. The writer or the editorial staff the ability to. Shifty information. That's why the reprints of Quigley's tragedy and hope we really need. So out there to sit with the original and sit with the reprint and make sure the key things are knee Leded perfectly reasonable grounds that you know, we wanted to shrink the stone thirteen hundred thousand or whatever it was over. We have eight minutes. Nine minutes left. I have two questions, and then we can do an informal book signing and get you out of here. Yeah. Well, you should want to know what happens to ordinary class of thirteen year old one. They get a smattering of the as much as I kind of sword and a short time. Well. Many of you will have seen. Strawberry fields, the monument to the Beatles and central park. I don't wanna Pat myself on the back 'cause I didn't much care for the bills, and I hate using park land foreign, but I was approached by three girls to them hair better like complaining, the community planning board had denied Yoko petition to build strawberry fields. And they were furious. That's been done. I said, well, you don't have to accept. A lowest part of the pecking order I according to protocol you have to take your case to them. So we'll book you an appointment and your lie down the reasons you want to take three cruises central park and give it to this group who could play three musical chord, but I told them whatever you wanna do including building a pistol. I'll show you how you can learn how to do that I won't censor. So so it'd been voted down forty five to eight by the community planning board and planning board unanimously rejected their pale. I said now you wanna look who has a sign off in their decision. This is not a group of local big shot. This is the law. Landmarks preservation commission. You don't get on that. Unless you're insists come over on the fly where you have ten billion dollars. I'd say this is the lead of the league. And now what you wanna do is research. The names are publicly accessible twenty three and now bad for five of them would already be in favor. This thing all you need is twelve of them to reject this for it to happen. So you find out who these people are and get as much biographical. I'm for may IT is made this on these people and you'll find the buttons supply them like a noble, Oregon. Yeah. You're gonna find out what causes they became no before it setter trips. And now what you're gonna do because there's. Twelve thousand kids in the school district is gonna free you from school for a month. And you're going to split up you go from school to school. Find troublemakers get petitions because what we need 'cause you're letterhead will say committee of five thousand we need five thousand signatures on a petition and you're going to ride an end of Joe letter writing campaign to aid to the twenty three members of the community piney board asking them to please immortalize. Screw of the screw. Well. I get a phone call in the front office, some some class six weeks later, and the voice on the phone. Hello. This is Yoko Ono. I thought it was one of my cockamamie friends. I said, you know, this George Washington go what's on your run. Fortunately, she didn't take on bridge. Very. She said the decision has been reverse. I'm willing to hold a party at the Dakota for these girls. Could they be we lease from SCO while I don't know you. Missile. So that's one look at this one. Here is a twelve year old sees student from. Well, he lived in. Well. Sees a polite young fell his going. No there there. He went to. He had the affront to go pizza parlor and all white opera was side and nineteen eighty and the old or the parlor six foot six inch crazy Greek who happen to be a friend of took his piece took his through the char draws hit taken to straw. Allow one straw, right. So he comes over ranting about ratio prejudice. I'll said it was the wrong thing to do. I'm gonna show you how to deal with it. But I don't think it was right. She'll prejudice his clientele lunch comes from the collegiate school. They were blue blazers goal buttons John Kennedy's kid went there. They tips for his stamp. And he knows public school kids by co are why go in there for one. He's got to lose blue ribbon trade, nevertheless, you're going to give him a chance to back. This is absolutely mass of insane. Great who believes violence is the solution to all problems once Gerry mulligan, the famous jazz saxophone bounce a ten dollar. Check hit blown up. Billboard saw and mounted era. Okay. So I said you go to the phone and all this. And then you say, I'm the guy took, but I'm lonely. Let bygones be bygones if I could. Kings up. What am I gonna give you what law is called on a day that you attempted to solve this problem? Pacer blake. Now, you want to go over there and person tomorrow, and I'll provide a long distance witness and you want to say it's just a slice of pizza. Gimme my slice of pizza. But Nick had the bid out kid. And now I said you're gonna call him one more time with the different teachers witness, then you're gonna ride him a letter certified return receipt requested sixty five cents in those days. And now you have four pieces of evidence to provide to the court. And then you're going to do is this small claims only costs like three dollars, but it was seventeen miles from school kids can't so I said anyone with three dollars can. So that doesn't mean you're gonna win. But the way they were free small claims court to side since one person's is who has have that they acted reasonably and you have four pieces of this guy will steam coming out of there. Well, he was awarded trip. Imple- damages. How about that? Now, what are you suppose the small claims court? Route for Ray shed when I got home that. And I kind of believe what I just said judicata. So the ginning about four days later, we got a call from the Brooklyn college law school could he come over and lecture. Of course, you said, no. And I said, listen, I'll ROY new if you don't we'll work could then Columbia law school call then we got daily calls from judges to take him out too long. 'cause this symbol that the system. Really? Okay. He's the only kid in thirty years teaching took my vice not to waste your time high school. I said any number of very good college. So take you in at the end of your sophomore year. If you provide the documentation, you're ready. Hey, went to Duke full tuition scholarship. So then Duke University law school and. These two vans. Strawberry fields and pizza. Are from the same term junior is just say a few more of these things. There's some you cal- thirteen year old girl who came to make complaining that our mother was a liar said go to Paris alone that summer, she could raise the money just checked, nobody. I mean single parent. Household mother was a secretary. Nobody I said, well, you can't do it on a job. But does not very much money. You have a little business and chew says thirteen year old kids can't have those as I said, if you something people want, they don't care how jewel are a main Shawn fanning almost rolling the music goes with Napster. It was. Seventeen. So she takes a week out of school figures. A really interesting exotic business that you could read my ball can find. And rises enough money in a short time by cutting school for six and say it avoids cheat could afford to pay her mother's. Why came as I got much more my native as watch your mother, para appreciate it on the basis of that. She went to what I believe is the finest college in the United States Hampshire call where you write your own curriculum. And then you go shit with the fact only my granddaughter goes there will be graduating next year. Hello christine. All so. It means writing. Yeah. Wow. That's a real name was. Is carried pop really good grin. But she wasn't satisfied. Just you went to court and turns Christain. So. What are you gonna do say something that would echo through time in each and every person from now? So the end of humanity would hear it. Yeah. Sensible children, do not wish to be incomplete human beings. And so when you impose a stage theory of human development upon them. You fact, or tormenting them you're limiting their opportunity the whole world for all history. New the trout would is over a Bon ta just seven, and if it persists beyond the age of twelve you've got some hopeless human being on your money. Don't be your kids anime because they're not a kid that's fellow human being male or female be their partner and in large the opportunity. No more police. What does a college education really get you in the twenty first century? I think it's it's consistently given less and less. It essentially was the last who to jump through but never delivered much to most of the people who Joan through that it is possible. If you understand that -education something have to take to use the resources that are symbol. They're actually stitched together and educate yourself, get some value. But most people, of course, for prescribe plan, which is been put together by committee, somewhere, and fact. New much for most people. I went to Cornell Columbia and Reed college and I can guarantee from corn on com Mia. I remember nothing except the babes the alcohol and. From read. I got a little bit on Plato seminar that I do remember basically arguing with with the. The professor who encourage. It does it doesn't give me a Bank for your buck. Unless you commit which who does isn't it supposed to produce typic-, certifies? You zella, Jubal? Finding is I t has accidentally exploded a lot of so many. I remember my daughter graduated from them and she used to bitterly complained that our class my to advantage for months at a time doing jobs for various companies come back is if nothing happened. Nobody punish them. Sorry to say that we were so slow picking up on. Judge people by perform and not by credentials and real people you'd be insane higher on the basis of credentials because skew between memory and application so large that eventually your top him with people don't do anything. When asked us last question, I'm gonna go burn your your DVD that way, you're not late. And so just answer to to to Tony. And kevin. What is the value of persistence as juxtaposed to the learning process? About ten years ago. I set up. I helped to set up a foundation that Edison high school in New Jersey awards ten thousand dollars a year to the most persistent Soudan in class persistence in the face of adversity as the final tests if you can stick to plain nothing is difficult to learn. I mean, nothing and all but the natural selection process operating on low boredom koshen on personal disrespect can't do that many other things eliminates almost everyone except the persistent. Those are the ones who. Demonstrate merit obviously, a to the control mechanism is in heralded or poignant. But the parts that aren't go to the persistent, and that includes the art and science as well as politics. I mean who could imagine for example. Obviously inferior and being I'm not spending politically here. George W Bush could pass through all the screens on the way up and then elected not once but twice by the American population. He'd flunked his pilot scores twenty five hundred and now he's supposed to be giving a jet flying combat. But of course, he pulled starting to do that. Hey. Am the sole. Hey, look. Talk. And you cannot believe that any decisions attributed to him were actually made by him known would be crazy to put him in charge. You mind the store and I'll go off. But he was persistent, and he did reject the negative Cessnas that occurred all through his lives. What Iraq rock is about in? My opinion is showing daddy that the people who embarrassed daddy got their come up. How cares the carnage? Great mass birds in his story, but daddy daddy's reputation was saved from disgrace. What do you feel the role of UNESCO is? Relation of educational. Well, bothered a little bit by. The general mass of of conspiracy literature attributes powers to the United Nations, which is simply doesn't have that doesn't mean that is Phil films tensions. I mean that never succeeded in becoming. People say it's respectable institution. But they don't be known says one is you no one. That's that. And they've almost given up try. I mean, there's now a minority opinion. It's not worth spending money to have it in the United States. This much. Anti. Carries out our subtler vaughn's. Nice go a lot of their their workings on the educational. Oh, yeah. Asians. And you when you and I would to those art and won't they're all. Yeah. Of course. Anyone say it's easier to deal with unformed mind with no experience, we them away. Yeah. Just generic sense what you would expect that. So wouldn't be surprised that that's what. Who was your what were some of his ideas that the? The most intriguing thing about the followers of a load or that they never count the fact that every single one of his projects quickly failed every single one of them. What he had that was intriguing to the Prussian are in really the global hierarchy was. That he his method of kindness and may have been. His method of kindness. Was a new weapon in the arsenal of sit of whipping the poor threatening. The menacing tormenting them you kill them with kindness. The. Written principles Fabian 's are pestle load Sian by extending this blanket of kindness to people. It's still a fact of. Lots of lots of big fraction, the American population expects charity and sees it as a blessing now, it's not hard to see why on this day or that day could be a blessing, but over all you get weaker in wake or like your arm gets weaker doesn't live stuff about your head. Such a fundamental principle of human physics, including mental physics that. To pull the wool over so many people's on. Goes like media interviews. Gordon watson. Thank you. Also talked about the crews open up. Oh, this is. Terrorists taps on the Roosevelt's daughter Roosevelt's tap goes weather. They opened up they go back to Japan after who was the Admiral that you mentioned I one over there. Not doing. But you know, what I'm saying they had already gone, and this is the second one. And then this sets up the whole World War Two World War One the whole scenario the opium smuggling all in there. And this guy wrote. Fathers flyaways. Yes. James, bradley. Yes. Thank you. I will. Outstanding. Hey, I this is been. A lovely core. And how complicated it is. You know, my. Seen this. Bilas. So. No that was the name of the aluminum body before it was known as the aluminum perfectibility. And this means Permai khaki beat that means through me the blind become side. It's their top secret is trivial and learning, but they use it out of order. So they don't establish what exists they asserted logic without? No, no, no. You look in the back. It has a full glossary of individuals IRS of. Yeah. He's catalog now. This is my copy. But I want you to take it, and I can get another one. Glass. Series. The the reference Carl won't and it goes into some of his colleagues, and you'll have a lot of weapons just your own Dariel. Thank you, all and certainly. Gary got a heavy bag to carry. Get off. Yeah. Yes. You've now experienced the first step the ultimate history lesson. We done the hard work of organizing. The fact and now it's up to you to think, learn communicate and take action among yourselves. We don't expect you to do this alone. And fact since this message applies to all of us. It's truly a circumstance which unites us and makes us indivisible. So that we might deliver freedom and Justice not just to ourselves that the people around the world. 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 Know Your Enemy free agency edition: Atlanta Falcons
Welcome to the buccaneers observer podcasts as row Phillips and Molly day and today, we're gonna start the first of our no, your enemies, serious free agency edition and today. We're going to talk about the Atlanta Falcons. Yeah. They're like, the least I hate them. The least of the. Yeah. Claim your right mediate the most. Oh, I don't know. That's a tough one Carolina. Probably. Yeah. I'd probably have to go CAD. Cam Newton just the pretty white teeth. He'll get knocked out. So bad. Can't stand New Orleans coach Sean page on pay. Yeah. I can't stand who sell whiny. You know, what did it for me? When he Josh Freeman dash bring then to ask for in Manhattan is like finger route and interview or something giving a press conference, and Sean Payton, we were playing them that week in office. He was like, hey, yeah. He wind to the league that Josh Freeman wasn't on the injury report. No, just some whiny. It's just so whiny all the saints and saints fans are all whining. Yeah. Fair enough. So Atlanta's head coach, Dan Quinn. They didn't do great last year. They went seven to nine didn't make the playoffs. So I think he probably felt the heat to make some changes, coaching wise. Otherwise, it was probably going to be him that got fired. So the biggest one, of course is cut are being hired. As offense coordinator back to his his old job wonder if we'll get Mike Smith is defensive coordinator. Now Dan Quinn fired the defensive coordinator, coordinator, Marquand manual and Dan Quinn. He no, he's a defensive guy. He came from Seattle. He coached their defense Alesina, boom. I think I think is that. Right. Okay. I know he came from Seattle. But I don't want to give him credit for the legion. Booms and doesn't. But so Dan Quayle is gonna take over the defence now though he's going to be the defensive coordinator. Yeah. He's not gonna have a defensive coordinator. Now. He's thinking all. Yeah. That's good for us. Right. So they running cutter he was offensive coordinator under head coach Mike Smith at Smith is well I received running backs coach or special assistant office coordinator, and you know, cut our he is familiar with Matt Ryan he's got Julio Jones bound lit up with gutter was there. Yeah. So and they have that familiar to you. So we'll see what happens and it remains to be seen whether cutter will still be bucks fan. We'll have to doping all this stuff at the thrift store. I don't think he's I don't think he was serious about it. Mike malarkey was hired as the titans coach and this. He was. Yeah. His he's to be the titans headcount. Yeah. And this is actually his second sent with Liana. He was their offense coordinator from two thousand eight to two thousand eleven and he actually started his career in Tampa Bay in nineteen ninety four you know that. Did you know that? Oh, I don't know what he was. He was ask hard questions. I need to look at my notes before and ask my questions. So that I can amount smart. And I'm like a true reporter, man, I s a hard hitting questions. I try to stop I should act like a pundit and bullshit my way through. It's the question. You woman. And then Keith Armstrong who cut are brought in as special teams coordinator, he was fired. And they brought in Ben cotton Wicca as special teams coordinator, he came from Washington. Now, he wasn't fired he elected to leave. He got the Atlanta job and left. So I don't know what the deal is there with their special teams. Can you think of anything of now like why they felt the need to replace her special needs special needs? Especially bush. Whole team. I shall teams coordinator were there special teams that bad don't recall. I don't remember when they had Matt Ryan now head met that brings up a question. Let's talk about Matt Ryan, which is on that subject. We know. Keith Goodwin is now or special teams coordinator, right Keith arms. Sean. He's Armstrong Goodwin's are of Lyman trying to gain rigging cow given here all given here. Okay. We got the we got the there's a lot of names there. Hey, we got a lot to catch up on. And remember. Okay. So this guy Keith Armstrong. All right. So Keith Armstong comes to Tampa from Atlanta. He was there special teams coordinator. Now he's God for like ten years. He was there. All Tom ever. I was there. Yeah. So he comes to Tampa. And all of a sudden Matt Bryant gets released by Atlanta. He hasn't officially been released. But they let him know that when when it's time, they're gutting. So he's going to be released. What do you think are we going to get him? And it seems to be aligned the stars land up. Well, we we hired that. Danish kicker. We already signed that's just to do tryouts during the preseason. And all that good stuff and get in get competition in there the big deal. We do it every year while I was bringing in kickers. Maybe that's our problem. I think you can make an argument either way, I think, ma'am, Brian. He's Bryant he's forty four years old. He missed him games last season because of an injury. I don't know. I mean, he's definitely on the tail end of his career. If I was any team in the league. I would wanna pick mitt Ryan up. This is where the buccaneers and we fired him. And it wasn't on good terms. He left pretty bad as well. When we got a new Nugent. Right. We was. Yeah. Heat it. Okay. But it was during the preseason. Remember they were going to let Bryant kick and had nudie kit with Nugent was doing good and Bryant gave an interview somewhere. And he was like, I don't understand why even in the competition two why why they're making me compete, basically. And then they didn't let him kick. And then they got rid of him. Yeah. It was not a clean cut. And that my friends is why don't want brought back. I just I'm not a big. Fan of cutting people on bad terms, or basically, cutting people in then bringing them back years later, or whatever. Because even even if they say, hey, I'll hold on hold grudges subconsciously. They hold a grudge. You know, they remembered they remember getting fired half to move out of town. I mean, his family loves Tampa. He's got people. Here's wife loves it. They got a house in Tampa. And all that good stuff. They've been. So so consciously, you know, he might be like ask who the buccaneers? And I don't let that when he's out there kicking, you know, so consciously because I mean kickers that the big deal any little route. I mean, look at Taylor in canton zero like once it got in his head that he was going to miss it. He hit or Glasgow. Yeah. I look at lovey Smith made lovey Smith. Is the perfect example when they hired him. I was like, no, what are you doing? And I don't know what the deal was with him. But to me if you look at it, objectively he came in. And he destroyed this team you he'd immediately got rid of all our whole offense of line. Who does that? I a head coach come in and get rid of our offense of land. It's not like we had a ban off his line either had one down here. But I mean, they were good players. Anyhow, he comes in blows up a whole offensive line, and we've been dealing with that ever since. And you know, he brought in all these free agents. He bad nepotism going. I mean, he hit his son as a secondary coach, it don't know infiltrators whatsoever. So I'm just not a big fan of bringing players. Once you mean, anyhow, I think we should just move on. And not bride is a great kicker Greg guide and everything I think he's still got some left any, but I don't I don't want to take a chance with it fair present because we're gonna have to pay them. Yeah. I mean, that's Atlanta's point was that they gotta pay him three million dollars. Right. He's gonna get his money and be like, I don't care. Yeah. Maybe so I don't know. I'm just not a big fan of hiring players that you cut before. Interesting point, not true. Try to have interesting points every now and then so aside from their shakeup at special teams the fire defensive coordinator, we talked about that they also fired their defensive assistant and defensive backs coach Charlie Jackson, and they also fired. Todd neil. Oh, this one was weird. So he's football research and development front office guys numbers guy, clipboard older. Yeah. Which is funny because cutter, and that's what we always said. He is he was the advanced statistics guy in Seattle years ago. And Dan Quinn. The season was criticized for ignoring game in a Lennox. So they fire their spouts guy. Do you do we have a gay man, Louis guy? I know we did at one point. A perusal of the website tells me we do have aid director of analytics seem as Tyler overly a new. We had some big analytics stuff going on here for a while. We also have that VR crap that J James Winstons been doing one few teams in the league. There's been doing that don't know how much it's open right because he still can't he's. Viana? How they got rid of their governor their football, research and development guy. Just in all the stats out the window. Screw go play football. Yeah. I kind of screams of desperation to me. Dan quinn. How much shaken up his staff? I wonder how much longer he's got if they don't do. Well next season. When shock me if he got caned will it's it's strange day because Mike Smith he was defensive guy. Dan, Quinn was defensive guy. And when Mike Smith was their defense was pretty good at tackling. I really liked the way they tackled but other than that they were that special and with Dan Quinn. They haven't been that special their defense last season was like as bad as ours was pretty much mirror images of each other. So it's like it's like with the when you got Matt Ryan and Julio Jones and their running game in you could put any any head coach in there, and they're going to do good. He's got like Mike McCarthy with Green Bay. I don't even know if the guy ever said anything or did anything you just stood there. He was like he could have been a cardboard cutout. And you know, they they've gone the route with defensive coaches, I don't know. I don't know what the answer is. But yeah, I think you're right. I mean, they they just not did not do well last year nothing. Dan, Quinn is in panic mode extinction burst. Yeah. Was they're still near football. Hang or they're Super Bowl hangover to that is true. Absolutely. Losing when you're up twenty eight to three was last year the first year after the Super Bowl for them. Or was it dear before it was the year before last year when the eagles beat the I want to say, yeah. The year after they gutter but looked in the Super Bowl. They did pretty good. I think they went back to the playoffs. Then I remember, maybe all blurred together. So free agency. They've got twenty one players total. We had twenty five. Yeah. So they've got night on offense. Eleven on defense in one on special teams end. They've got a several starters that are up for free agency. So we'll go through one by one. And then I wanna talk about who on the buccaneers squad that darkens fans are actually eyeballing because there was a pretty good article. I read about that burst up for free agency. We've got their guard. Andy Levin trae, he's the starting left guard. He was placed on I r in September for a torn triceps. He is thirty three years old and made seven point eight million last season. He's an unrestricted free agent. So well, you know, I feel like the last few years they've had issues with their offensive line. I feel like they're always injured marian's always getting murdered out there. And he's not the only one we got guard the starting right guard. Ben garland is up for a free agency to. They're back up. Oh, this one's given. Matt Shaab you remember Matt job. He's still playing these still play code. He's Matt Ryan's backup. So he's up for free agency. They'll be in the market for Matt Ryan, every can you recall getting hurt? Now didn't even need. Did. He have any injury one time. I don't remember. It just seems like he never gets her. How is he a robot? He acts like many a I. Okay. So next we've got defensive end Eric Shelby second-stringer, but he was placed on I r last he's in in November for a groin injury made two million last season. So then we got cornerback Justin Bethel. He's a backup. I feel like I know all these names though, because we play them twice a year. He's me. Even under backups. No. By even though their backups. We'd see you know, like, Justin Bethel. I recognize that name in any case he made one point seven five million last season. He's aged twenty nine that can't be as rookie contract unit. No, okay. And then we've got defensive tackle, Terrell McClain. He played behind Grady Jarrett. He's his backup. So he was actually a starter at the beginning of the season. And then yeah was benched. So he's been in the league. He's thirty one. He's been the leaks since two thousand eleven so next week got defensive end Bruce urban he was only signed in November and was third string. I think they needed some depth facts air in their defensive line because they got injured. Oh there long, snapper. Jon condo. There. Other long, snapper. John Harris was placed on IRR December four like what is their long snapper Newin that they're getting injured? Now, we're this a weird one. So anyway, they signed John condal which that sounds like a ruthless character. Yeah. So John Connell up for free agency next. Their tight end Logan Paulson. He's thirty two. He was a starter. Also at the beginning of the season. And then he moved down the depth chart in favor of Austin Hooper Mex is strong safety Kamal Ishmail. He's a second-string twenty years old next is left tackle ties some Briley. Oh, is that how you say it? He's the backup to Jake Matthews. D do you recognize him? I feel like the name what he big at replacement. Donovan smith. No, we'll just I don't know. Not an upgrade. I just remember seeing seeing him get whooped up and down the field by feta. So I remember your the name because I remember you bring it up in the podcast before I think, and that's usually not a good thing. When you hear the office online those name strong, safety, Jordan Richards. He's a starter. He's up for contract looks like it's the end of his rookie contract. Inside linebacker. Bruce carter. He's a backup guard Zane Beatles to recognize the same. Okay. He's a backup. Boba believe we hear Wilson. Thank you quarterback bleed. Even Ray Wilson third-string cornerback bleeding bleeding bleeding, b l I d I next is. Okay. This one's a good one starter will not really start Kevin Coleman. He's up for free agency. He started after devante Freeman was injured Freeman was put on. I r he's starting guy. Now, they just pay. Devante freeman. They just paid him got him a forty million dollar contract. When did they last year? They signed him in two thousand seventeen Freeman said that right after. He gets hurt. And it's really up in the air. Whether they're gonna resign heaven Coleman because Colman's gonna get, you know, at least, a thirty million dollar contract will the before the film is paid two running backs to huge contracts. Right. Who knows if they learn their lesson or now, I don't have. But what do you do? Do you think they anything? They let him walk. Probably. I mean, if he's gonna want thirty million. Yeah. You just can't can't see them doing that again where they've got. I mean, they're having to pay Matt Ryan what twenty three million dollars? Julio Jones is getting good Lord Jones, get thirteen and a half million true flops getting fourteen million. They're gonna pay. Devante Freeman getting on the seven million. You think they're gonna pay Tevin Coleman six million five million. Yeah. They just don't have it is that I I don't know they a bunch of dummies. They might do it. I think they have too many other needs. If you already got one good running back. Well, he got injured last year and the ad golden stepped up so true enough. But I think he's replaceable. Like, you could get a serviceable running back for three million and not have John. No, let's have been doing it for you. Running-backs everywhere as serviceable backup running out. How about that? There. We go. Next. We got defensive end Stephen me's, former buck. Twenty nine years old. He's unrestricted free agent. He's a backup they got wide receiver. Justin hardy Nonni backup on a lot of these guys. Play the rotational players. I played quite bit. Stephen means playbook quite a bit. Well, they're not first on the depth chart. That's what I mean. So they're not a starter listeners wanting to say just because he's got does it get back up. So me, they didn't play good caller, not backup defensive tackle Grady Jarrett. He's up for contract is the last year was rookie contract. I would go if we could. But I know they're going to sign. Yeah. He is is good. That's why they can't spend money on Tim and Coleman resign Grady Jarrett safety Bryant poll, he's second-string. And then wide receiver more of an hall third-string. So that's the end of their free agent list. We've got to bed for the free agency rain bird Grady jerk in couple linemen Coleman their offense. They're not hurting as far as their first stringers are going, right? We're we're not doing well for stringer was pledges. So there was an article I read speculating about what players cutter might bring over. You know is going to be Ryan Fitzpatrick and jockeys Rogers, those two almost guaranteed go to Elaine. Yeah. Anybody would take what's her third string quarterback name again? Ryan Griffin Ron Griffin. They might even get hill because they cut. I don't know what he saw. I never saw the gallon field. Right. What's his he ever thrown? An NFL pairs in a regular season game now. No, I don't think. So. So maybe that'd be good for that guy. You always feel bad for those guys kinda like Mike Lennon where they kind of their their one coaches guy. And then that coach gets fired forget the chance to develop other brings. Huge opportunity when he with the Chicago. Boy, did he stick there. He was a horrible quarterback game manager. I guess, but he just had no no own foot. So ever even horrible. I would say thing he got sick so much because he would he would take a sack before. He would he doesn't really conservative. She's considering please like Southern Baptists quarterback conservative was. Our there. I all in Adam Humphreys, get your filthy hands. All right. Keep your filthy. Then birds don't even have any get your filthy wings off. Or Adam Humphreys, dirty dirty Atlanta Falcons, Danny bad's third. I'm going to be so upset if he doesn't get resigned. I'll tell you what if he gets on somebody in our division. I'm gonna be furious. Yeah. Falcons. Can you actually actually would be worse if he went to New Orleans order Carolina? He would he would chew it up. It a Carolina. Yeah. That's what I was thinking to that. Would be worse case. Would you imagine Hillman McCaffrey fairly his name size to say, why style? He's so mad. Bernard. Really, this one's we're. So we didn't really keep him. But doesn't know the Falco hallock noted that the cutter in the buccaneers really liked him. They kept bringing him back on the practice squad signing letting him go re-signing them. So maybe a possibility for they got some third string wide receivers that are up for free agencies that may be to replace them. They might be an option. He mentioned Luke Stocker ruin. Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead, bro. Another team who's he with like the jets? I think I know he's not on the plug now. Now, I think he's with Tennessee titans. Same thing like the jokes. Yeah. They're lengthened. Falco Hollick said Leonard Wester brought him up. He's he is the backup. Right. Tackle for Johnson. Keeping a dirty filthy wings rain for littered western for free agent. I think so you just did this the free. Remember, we're like the worst meal booking your. In your last one. And this is actually a Washington guy is linebacker Zach vigil. He was a notable special teams player, but they're new special teams coordinator came from Washington. So this is one of his guys that maybe they went through trying to shore or special teams. Yeah. Kind of looks that way. And so they're drafting at number fourteen Atlanta's they went seven nine this season that this point with all the trades and stuff for the drafting of teams get shuffled all turn at this point. They're number fourteen. So they are looking to shore up the trenches offensive and defensive line, particularly at the defensive tackle position. Even though Grady Jarrett is he's a free agent. And they're probably gonna resign him. He's still needs a defensive tackle beside him. There's also talk that Vic Beasley has been underwhelming. So maybe they consider a defensive end, but in general consensus is they're going after defensive line road. Yes. So Atlanta's cap salary cap situation is actually pretty decent. They've got about twenty eight million in free cap space more than us. Yeah. Gosh, I hate this being cap strapped. I know this is the first time in a decade that we've had to worry about cap space. Delighted when we're gonna have to cut good players. Yeah. Probably watched them go on other teams that probably win the Super Bowl yet. What they get lipstick. Matt Ryan like I said he's making twenty three million Julio Jones a course fourteen million fifteen half-million Vic Beazley's up there at thirteen million. He's making his much Julio Jones. That's crazy. That is crazy. So I can understand them being a little underwhelmed by him when he pay on that much money. But I don't know how he's been performing. But will doing okay, I'll tell you what when they played against us, the mar- Datsun through Beasley around like he was the second potato he'd say so small. Yeah. I mean, he's he's kind linebacker Cise. So do they play three or four? Okay. Cake play a kind of same. They were going to be doing right. We flipping it around. But did they got Greg Jarrett defensive tackle? He. About far the best player on defense. I got really underrated. He's good. Yeah. Then market value for him is gonna be about fifteen million which paid that much for him pay McCoy thirteen which pay grain Jarrett fifteen that's a tough one. Yeah. Probably not now. No. I'm telling you we could put. In general, which you pay not just the buccaneers. Oh, oh, no for you. I mean, if you if you needed the defensive tackle yet. That's that's pretty decent price. I guess I guess I don't know, man. I mean, how much is how much is air Donald kitten. He's topped here. He's a top of the line until Vida dethrones him. It's coming. It's common. Yes. Iran. Donald is. He's making seventeen million this year. Good lord. That's how okay. So if you're going to say that and you Greg Jarrett was going to be around fifteen. I don't know even still he's not air Donald level. Okay. So then next year. Okay. Fair enough next season air Donald makes twenty five million. Holy crap. Are you serious enough to that? It's twenty eight million in that. That's like quarterback money. Well, I mean during MacOS may has made more money than any quarterback. We've had since he's been here. And because we don't keep them. We definitely don't recital. Well, I don't know how much the Josh Freeman Meglena. Yeah. Yeah. Me josh. Josh Freeman was only making a million any went to six and a half million in two thousand twelve and you know, he wasn't making anything. So Jeremiah was making all the money when our two tomorrow, I think Vince Jackson was up there with Jeremy McCoy. Yeah. Probably Revaz after that. Yeah. Yeah. But McCoy's always been the the top moneymaker on our team. So, you know, Greg Jarrett. I couldn't see painting fifteen million. I could see tan, but fifteen little steep and in funny how we get like this about other people's money. Many. It's it's how it is. When you are having cat problems. That's when you start worrying about before that. I was always just like. Yeah. Pay up whenever they want. I don't care. We got we got the money. So I heard people talking about cutting, Brian anger. Why money it plus he didn't do that? Well as year, I mean and do bad. Okay. All right. Have we learned nothing from the kicker situation keep Brian anger, even if you have to pay money. Well, he's not gonna work for rocks. I would pay him an extra million dollars or whatever. He just I mean, he was fantastic. But of course, we had good special teams guys too. That were helping out and last year we were kind of we got rid of all of them. Well, it's he's not bad. He's not terrible. No. I mean, he he's been great. I think he's been great. But you know, worst case he's been a little bit above average. Word a little bit above average, really get rid of him. That's what people are talking about. That'll nice doesn't make any sense. When people talk about getting rid of the kicker Matt Ryan, I was like he was great and we're like asking right on 'cause he getting older he missed field goal. Or what you know? Now. You know, you got somebody special special teams at least do an average just keep them. Right. What about came and break his name got popped up. Oh, see that's a tough one on the one hand, you're like, well, we got OJ. So you don't really need bright. You can get rid of break. But OJ has had injury problems last two years. He's gone into reserve and brain apparently this hip injury. But good now he played through that he played for. So I think when you're in pain like that it really does affect you. Yes. So we know this experience we down we play football it word paying. We're just not able to get as many touchdowns normal. Yeah. That's that's a tough one for me. He's making more than OJ Howard. Is. Yeah. Came a break. He's up in like six million. Yeah. OJ Howard's making these on his rookie contract. Okay. Well, that's the that's the nature of the bees. Yeah. But why pay camera break that much money? I don't know. That's a that's a tough one. I like Harry brain did you know, he went to Harvard play basketball. The it's just so hard. You have a player that maybe mediocre maybe with original. Yeah. Winston has chemistry in the red zone. Right. I mean, maybe he's mediocre maybe a little above average. But you get rid of him. And then what do you get? I mean. We've gone through. We had Alan cross we had Luke stop. I mean, there's a whole long list tight ends that just aren't doing bore me. A don't recall for the game food. Just doesn't look like areas us tight ends nothing. Like cut did interesting. So I I'm worried AJ might not even get the amount of balls. He did last year. I don't know it might be just because they didn't have the town tied in like OJ. Maybe so. Ahrends supposedly, you know, big about devising his plan system around players talents. And if he does that he's going to be used tight ends lot. Because we have talented tight ends. Yeah. Don't know. We'll see if that cap space money at six million, or what is it that seventy now he took him to make a seven million dollars could go to some much needed area. We tight end situation is not bad. I don't know. That's a tough one. Do we really need to good tight ends? Well, yeah. When you're starting titan is injured all the time. That's a tough one though. How about this Freemont is out of play Brown? Signed him today. When your contract they must have had to to priority or something. I don't know how they got got. You know, everybody every team in the league was trying to go after Kareem hunt. That's a surprise to me that the Browns went after him. I know they got chill there. I didn't go. They got a already a good stable running backs. But you know, he's going gonna be suspended for the first six seventy eight said, then, you know, you're not in a bind when he's suspending. Because you've already got a good running back not to shame. I was kinda hoping we jump on that bandwagon really even with Peyton barber. We've got Peyton. Yeah. I paint Barbara. I think he's going to do well, especially we chore bar offense ladder earliest get those guys playing right? But you know, you you can't ever go wrong with the skilled running back back there like Kareem hunt. Did they have to pick up his contract? I wonder not know there hasn't been any details given out other than they just signed him to when your contract. So apparently. No, okay. You know, they can sit cutting me probably got him for a good price too. I don't know, man. I think I think he was gonna go station with a lot of teams. So they probably they probably paid. It's going to be just see what they've they're paying. I think that's going to tell everything. I mean, if they're popping off, you know, ten million to him, and you know, that there was a lot of teams, and they were just a highest bidder. Did you you didn't watch it? But did you the af league af league now, but I saw a lot amounts to doesn't Clinton. Some good hit. Yeah. It's like, faster paced. I didn't watch it. You know, it's a series one and watch college football gist is too much. It takes up to Tom me watching NFL just don't have time to what she thing L. Right. But I know I might dabble in this a little bit. See what what is it like eight teams in this league? Yeah. And then we got the XFL league coming up. So it's gonna be a full year of football. Now. I don't know if I can handle it. I'm used to hibernate in from February to September. Nope. Up your energy to again, Joe Bloggs fan headed an interesting podcast the other night, and one of the things I took away from it was admitted they talked quite a depth about a kind of bragging about how the owners, and the coaches and everything read their articles and talk to them about it is that they won't tell anybody, especially the coaches, you know, they'll be like add and read it, and whatever, but they will actually call they'll and got a bitch them out or discuss things that they've written. Now, we know appear to report Scott Smith, the Scott Reynolds, he's had players calling before I know that you know, in chew him out for articles the one they got his personal cell phone number. But I just find it interesting because because to me that big gives a different take on the whole meeting. Could you imagine working down there? You've got you have to worry about your access because I pulled your access at anytime, you know, that, you know, getting into the press passes not stuff, and then, you know, the reading your stuff, and they're listening to your podcast. And then, you know, could you imagine how hard it would be to to say negative stuff about them. Right. You know? And you can't I've noticed this a lot, especially with the entrenched guys down there Ville talk about things, and they'll they'll ask you chose that cannot talk about this. Should I talk about this? What are they know a lot more than they tell us is what I'm saying? Yeah. You know, and I don't like that. Now, Joe bucks fan to their credit. They actually they're pretty negative. Yeah. This is true. They talk a lot shit. I think yeah, they do especially when it's time for a coach to get fired. You'll see Joe box van Impe report. What you're saying? I the that. Is usually I think they're the ones that started Peter or gain Andro bucks fan. I think they both. We don't want to teach over there. There was some I wanna say lawsuits whenever because Peter ports got the forum. And they were they kept posting Joe books articles in the forum in a full length. Word for word articles have users redoing it and Joe bucks got his and they sent pew report a season desist letter. Oh my God. I don't know. How far went all this. But I think that that they're not real friendly with each other. I don't think but it just makes me go. There's stuff they know like the two thousand eleven book. And here's what happened there the Noah, Spence. We know. They know what happened. They just don't want to tell us that stuff like with Sean Jackson. Rick Stroud talked about something a year after it happened. And I'm like, why don't you tell us when it happened? Now, why why save it until you're trying to get rid of him right now. It's just to me. That's just no, it's it's a weird reporting. Just don't like it. Well, then it don't get me wrong. I like Joe book saying like report, I like all these guys. But I I just really wish that sports reporting was different and better and more festive like cramp their fans. They're not reporters. Will let's not true Joe books. They have reported background. They're both from I. Yeah. They both started off the Tampa Bay times the Tribune. Oh, yeah. Well, seem on them. Not journalism. Well, you know, they're doing good doing a good service for the fans to so I just really wish that we had some good investigative reporters. Got. Mason like they just quote people. Then they give a lot of opinion on what these people are saying. Yeah, what will do is? They'll get a quote from coach, you know, and in the no like build a whole article around in what they think the coach, man. Yeah. You know? And it's just like, I don't I don't like we know when you quote is kinda like it'd be kinda like if reporters though, the Washington Post economic times all they did was listen to Sarah Sanders at the podium, and it just quoted her, you know, that's all they ever. Did. They didn't do investigative journalism. Get down dirty and find right the stuff that nobody's talking about. If they wanna keep him. You know? So I don't know. I'd like to see more of that. And I don't feel like the reporters in Tampa. They don't take any risks with what they're writing. Yeah. Yeah. They're not breaking any stories. They're not Rijo box broke the areas getting hired they call dente week before. But everybody kind of knew it was happening. They just happen to have a source that conferment. They're not they're not putting their career at risk or their credentials at risks to do anything. There's no nobody's going to biscuit. Yeah. It's it's that's why it's kind of almost parasitic that. You know, because they have to kind of do they can't go against the Dorgan ization because organization will pull access you know, in that. And they really depend on access because that's how they get you know, player will relax room quotes. And and, you know, get to note general manager is not good stuff as to access, and I understand their point of view. It's just I would like to see more of a down dirty get greedy, you know, find out about inner working stuff and share it in a not a National Enquirer style. But a kind of like a TMC style. You know, we went to. I wanna know what's up with no expense is basically what I'm kidding. What was this situation there? All right award sap said that he was invited to TA's by the coaching staff of the buccaneers. Oh, yeah. That's awesome. Bruce Arians have said he wants to bring in ex players, you know, and have them come in for practices and stuff, which is awesome. I think that's. Beccles there. Oh, I see Beccles in German Koi fight. That's awesome. Mcqueen picking Michael. Beccles is old right? He played back in early nineties eighties nineties. So anyhow, I think that's anything that was on the fanatics view dot com did an interview with Warren Sapp, and he was talking about. So what is he gonna do TA just go out there and act like a born Sam? I follow him on Instagram like all he does fish. Okay. So it was hashtags on our sap, fishing and sap, not fishing. So those are the only two things he's got fishing is fishing and not fishing hip surgery. Dead during Harris, tag, no fishing, Sapna, not fishing fishing. Yeah. He'll probably go. And we'll just give speeches and all that good stuff. And I think that's cool. I like that with areas I remember in Xiang. Oh and Shanas period. They went let anybody in matter of fact, one guy got kicked off. I can't remember what I think it was Dexter Jackson the Super Bowl MVP came in for something to a practice. And they were like, no it out, you know, made big stink about it. But that was during that period when everybody was trying to run shadow out of town. So he could've done anything, right? Interesting. I wonder I wonder who else will get their books. You know, he's he's gonna be there. Vinton Jackson will be there. He's still on Tampa Jesuit show girls. You know, he's he's me works at front office as beg. He he was lamb Becker Beckwith Sam. Okay. John Lynch, Tacoma. You know, he can't because he's he's Geel before. Yeah. That's it. Comey me be like, okay. Here's what you do guys just lay down, especially when you play in the forty Niners ground don't take this game series. Made. You're gonna hurt yourself. We might. Their division are we planning? Now, we don't play the west, but you play the bottom whoever the two divisions that way. Yeah, he played the same team in the same position. You were fully got to list of people were playing team still apply. If look at that real quick, so yeah, we do play San Francisco, and we play the why we play the west as your other. There's not the powerhouse. They were division last time we played in which I think was during Jonah's thing to thirteen. I think. Did they were more settled division was monsters that was an areas is there I now. So that'll be fun him getting a play against his own division. Oh, man. That's excellent. Yeah. And that'll be cool. Get storyline to oh. You know, the NFL's going around with that the Bill all week air is plain as there's corridas. So I think we talked about the buccaneers and everybody else as much as we did Eliana. Well, and I'll tell you who will see your podcast all about the Atlanta Falcons. Nobody a falcons fans don't even want to hear a podcast about the falcon stop. We have to do this. No your enemy. We're learning. Our enemy Ralph that. No yourself and know your enemy, and you will win every battle is that how he said it to you probably should it in Chinese. All right. Well, let's going to wrap it up the next who we're going to do next for their free the enemy Carolina, neck Carolina next the Panthers Cam Newton mister smiley. I think he's going to be not the same Cam Newton anymore with his surgery. Second land second surgery. Yeah. They're really killing him over there. Yeah. He runs away too much. Yeah. But they can't defend on glowing. Right. So what do you do run off? Yeah. That's we got a quarterback at hand the ball, real good. All right. So tune in for next time. We're going to have the know your enemy Carolina Panthers mile is going to do research on that. And I'm just going to sit back and enjoy it with the rest of you anything else. Now. That's it. All right, guys. We will continue to bring you the buck news breaks. We'll probably jump on here and give you the shadow for that. Until then guy backs.
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#820 Below Deck: Destiny's Red Headed Step Child
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It's one of my favorite shows on Bravo right now. Cracks me up, but I'm also super excited because we are closing in on our Seattle show. It's just over two weeks away. Technically it's sixteen days away from today and there are tickets available. We're going to have a great time up in Seattle because it's the ATL and how could you not have great time. We're Amazon is for crying out loud and intendo and XBox. So go to watch crap in dot com for those tickets. And then in December, come see us in Nashville. There's like a handful of tickets left like less than twenty low ticket alert. So go get those tickets while you can. Because once they're gone, they are gone. Yeah, that's the truth. Ain't it being really is the truth. Isn't that funny how that works? When things are about to run out, they outs, we'll guess what today is it's below deck day hula mingles day. Yes, that's my favorite kind of mean girl hula mean girl. Yes, it matters more when, like you're being mean during a hula party? Yeah, especially when you are shading someone about being Michelle from Destiny's Child, like that's that's the best kind of mean Girling and when they don't really get it. Yeah, exactly. Well, we'll get to that. So, yeah, below deck time, love blow deck. I was driving around today. I was driving driving into the old apartment and for whatever reason at every intersection or anytime I hit the brakes, I kept doing Kate boys going. I saw like someone's swerve and traffic. That's magin k. drives she just quietly passes judgment. She doesn't say out of my way motherfucker. She was like, well, I guess that's going to make in your life. Chiltern ahead. I guess you could. I guess you could make that left. Turn all that protect our still on. That's something you could do. You could do what you're doing, which is just sit there like an idiot. So it's the second day of charter, the violence or like them. Two, two. Like someone getting beheaded a case gonna die. That's not music on any other show. It'd be like a head rolling down a hill, but on the just raw, it's just Ross going chunnel to roll the Thai constructional. The he talked to on and the this new Ross voice that you've busted out kind of the same accent. It's just with mobile mouth, wanting mobile Ma. So yes, Ross complaining Chandler about Riley now ratty because they just had this little boat trip to a cave. And there was like miscommunication and Riley was like, you can't swim, but then he's like, can swim. And then she was like, it's time to get out and he's like, get out, you know. Yeah, Chandler, this episode really does focus on have little Chandler. Does this episode will go down in my brain is the one will refound all Chandler does his sleep. It's really hammered into our brain how much he's leaks. You got the hand. At this this episode, he did get the ham at it and he's like, look, let's just make new Tscharner rosters like Oarai. And then he goes straight up to the captain and he's like, oh, you're buzzed plus Sobel some. But when the Gus has questioned while there's all this is happening, it's happening on this little under with the cause captain lease like, but did anyone iron my God damn pants yet. That's what I care about. Hey, anybody been singing the famous Broadway song. I think the captain's pants. That's what I'd like him out. God damnit that you go to the cave or not. That's all I care about. I captain was going to be super pissed that this kid is coming up and tattle tailing like very like non rank of him and maybe like a bitch move. Yeah, but but but captain Lee instead like, well, let me tell you something Riley shouldn't be telling you anything. I mean, once of name is that right Lee spelled r. h. y. l. e. e. went name. Is that really Riley really? Maybe your name is really as in you really got your attitude really. He's hoping that, but the nodal don't them to. Two, two. Communication, Tom is supposed to take orders from you, but then he miscommunicate sent to me. Yeah. So then Lee cat, Ron, your a little of Beatrice occa- your little tattle tailing bitch. And usually this is a character on like the bachelor. There's always somebody there not here right sides, but now this is Ross. You can do a Ross impersonation of this voice. I mean that care loss in this in this show. I do have to say, I love that show. This is Ross. I cry every single time. Someone else gets tattletale on every different generations of people tattling. Then a crock pot burns the mall down. So then so then captain lease like. It's a really, a really morbid show. The one thing they don't tattle on the bad crock pot. I'll have something to say about the crock pot. What is it won't say, well, then I'm sure we'll be fine. So captains the captain handles in the way all of us. I think our handling our heads which is he's staring off into space, interested, dangling his radio back and forth. I can. He says, Christ on crack. Low energy. God damnit coming from me. His captain Lee is he's in his like patented seating position that he's in the bridge. You know where he's like sitting on a stool, but he has elbow. He's like propped up his upper body on on the table with his elbow, but the elbows a little too far away. So he's sort of like leaning forward as if he's like, maybe gonna grab a pan all the other side of the table, but maybe not. I'm sort of extended across the table, but I'm not fully extended because gag dammit. I don't know where I wanna be. Thanks for coming in. Check in with me. All right. And then he sells us. I'm real impressed with Ross wet bargains. Go in there. You can find science may ten. All right. So people know where the kitchen is because it says kitchen, you know what? He dresses for less and he works for more. I like that. So then we just see a shot of like, hi, I'm looking for some local dancers musicians, thank you very much. And then she just kills a fly. Got it. Sound of the Fleiss Cushing. Well, she probably like, hey, fly wanna just like hang over here. We'll just hang out and be friends like we're just going to be friends. Got it. So you like ignores the fly until it kills himself. Change us. I just make fun of the fly till it just feels so much shame that dies. Yeah, it's like how I don't know how to dance. Just anyway, so they keep showing desire polishing this MARTINI glass over and over again. They had ten MARTINI classes, but I thought it was. It's like everyone else are like, this is recipes. Underwear look does is polishing another MARTINI glass do it very Kathleen slowly. So Cates like just is so great. Like he's probably my favorites to ever had an all my seasons of ever been doing this. Unlike that crazy mob. That's downstairs trying to make a bad and they cut to Carolina and she's like, all right, come here Mr. finished. She you're getting around this corner for the last thing I do. Dammit. God. We for me again. I've never felt sheets being resentful before. I like that sheet. Okay. Caroline. The sheet is third, Stu, your fourth. Associates talking to the chef and she's tasting his. This might be the first charter ever gain weight. So we're going to do on the beach. It's going to be spectacular. And by the way you are supposed to say right now, but you look great and you don't look like you've gained weight. Thanks Adrian. Thank you. So the not deck Riley's like, so, should we go ahead and start like loading up this here now. Yeah. And Ross is doing. He's like onfield Kona bed because I three royally onto onto the bus onto the as it were, and I feel bad about it, but I guess I did it anyway. So. Meanwhile, Chandler still napping? Yeah, temblor just keeps going to sleep. He's like, I'm gonna get a little shed. I came fucking tired. Right? Just as just going to be a few minutes while everybody else works. And then Kate talking to a wall. Oh, I love this would paneling. Oh, I'm sorry. It's you Caroline. God that would paneling just blinks everybody else either airline are, are you tired? Because you look, you look, absolutely terrible. I mean, the bags under your face looks like you've got to canoes there. I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm fine. I'm great. Although actually last night, it's kind of crazy like Chandler like you didn't really like help me that he was like a help. I was like, but what about the dishes? And he's like, do the dishes trashy. Was like, we're like she closes one eye like Popeye and then like bites lip like. And it's like, well, it sounds to me like he probably feels like he's above helping lower, rank, needing help drying dishes. So that's just feedback. The feedback just like, oh my God, thanks. I don't think Caroline is complaining because Chandler didn't help her. I think Caroline complaining because Chandler didn't give her attention. But I guess it's hard to give attention to someone who looks like a giant pot plant with roses, coming out of it. I guess that is something you give attention to. Then I just don't understand her. So okay, that was a great talk now to all the portside cabins came. Great. So then I'm gonna go over here. Impasse. Chashma over you. Thank you. Bye. So then we cut to Riley working grass off and the show really again is so good at confusing you because one of Riley's Lippi in the next second, it's like God. She's the hardest working person he's ever hit is like every time they cut to her, she's like slinging something over her head. She's always covering something with something else. She's like the stupid job. Let me put this tarp around this other thing right now. Just for the fun of it constant putting corpse on things. There's a lot of tarp on this episode hard like take off the tarp on the tarp off the top on the. And then there's like a moment of like everything on d do with for you. Bryan Adams, aka mice. On on Ross. I have a son. Do you get like bonus money for tattle tailing. All. So then Caroline's like Carolina, Chandler Chandler to Caroline. I mean, sorry, Caroline, Chandler just just just one way it's Carolina Chandler. When Chandler gets she's obsessed with Chandler. Got another fly. Sorry, Carolina hurt you. Oh, that was a fly. And then the like I like her. She's like, you know, dear like an headlight like really like her. Like her throat off is so confused. So eight minutes making fun of you by this is Adrian who like the third eye and spent time being a Yogi and Intuit Inc. things and he's shading you. That's bad. There's always flies around him. You're something weird. There's something weird about Adrian, I'm saying, isn't it funny how I'm always killing agents friends? So then all of a sudden we see Caroline walk up to door and be like. And then she likes getaway. Okay. So Carolyn goes up to San Chandler and he's changing, and he's like, so dad, I'd the only refined he's alive is because his body's moving because his face isn't. He's just like, Lou. He's like human kelp. She's like, Chandler just wanted to say really? Sorry about last night. I just had this like misconception about what roles are and like what happened between us and it's like, I have no idea what she's talking about. So I have no idea, but you know what? I really love Mabel toast. Just like intensely plant. He's just like kind of like looking at us wide eyed like Bill and she goes, yeah, right. And he's like, yeah. So they'll so captain Lee is going to be having dinner with the guests and Cates like Chandler looks like we're getting a ninth chair for dinner tonight. You make it look like a throne, or you can even. I mean, that foldout chair looks great. I'm sorry, Caroline. I didn't realize where there. Because once he tells them captives the dinner and he's like, we only have eight chairs. So. Okay. We'll just make one the click thrown. Okay. Caroline, can you just like get on your hands and knees and captain Lee said on your, thank you so much every case, seeing this episode and with a. She's like, okay, bye. Kids like I've had a long day. I've exerted so much energy. I mean, I swatted at two flies. That's a lot. So then it's like Carolina's I, you can change into your blacks but don't take longer than six minutes that's directed at you, Caroline. 'cause I know you're very flustered at the moment. Fine. I'm fine while her arm sleeve. The cut to Riley carrying mountains of trash. The captain's just watching from the deck like. I also like Kate Carolina. They got on the tender to go to the beach and jobs is just at the end of the goodbye. Stupid stupid girl taking of my spot with case goodbye. But by Michelle. Show. So they get to the dock and Cates trying to with Carolina because like who else is there? Nobody, you know. So she's like, listen here. Tant. Idea. She starts like twirling that parasol thing head winding up her shade. If you have a baby together them and can even on the boat, you can Sienna come on skewed. His funny, I just wrote down Kate shrug, talking seasonally, perfected like the the way of like struggling with your voice. She. Kate as a nice middle name. I think it's nice. I think it's good. What am I doing sitting here giving parenting advice to glucose meter, I mean, oh, don't that's Caroline. I'm sorry. I compete for moment. Okay, pain relented view. Okay. Time to shoot crab back out to the beach. I'm sorry, Carolina. You. Thank God for beer Cousy my right. They give this evil close up of Reilly in her room, eating a piece of bread. Now, why is she doing it right in the lens of little gopro in her bedroom? I don't know, but it was very rude. Yeah, I think it was a hidden message. We're acts like the I can't stand. You don't even carbs anymore. This. It'd be like eight garbs onto be Ross. Ultra cop. Lii also does miscommunication to agree and she's like, well, yeah, because he says, like, do you think this way then you say it this way that like honesty that targets frantic. That's what's doing it to me. This guy is the worst like, see, I mean, that's a mean about the breakdown of communication off to apologize now. 'cause or his happened Copley uptick and they said, be specific. And now this is not going against you because I mentioned your name and that's a direct woke by the way he goes, this is not going against you because I mentioned your name. Keep talking, but he's going to hear what you're saying and surely enough. She didn't really, you know? Yeah. And also by the way to captain Lee, captain Lee say specific. He went up there was based on, shouldn't be saying this, but while he's a disaster like now, here's what happened. Raleigh. I went up there and onset someone is being terrible work, and he said, as Pacific shuttle cannot do that cannot mention anyone's name. He said site said, no, kipton Lee, no, I don't even know. I'm here someone put a spell on me. Why am I saying these things auto want it? And he said, spit it out and said, I can't say anything. I'm not that person. I would never throw them onto the bus just had to say your name saves. So he said, really said, yes, Damon, a messed up by his funky axiom. Again. Also the counting in a later meeting does say, all right now be specific with me. Yeah, but it doesn't say it wasn't to Ross. I don't know if it was cut out a wet, but he is still no matter what happened in that meeting. He's still a little worse for making this all Riley's like game of telephone. Right. Okay. Hello. Anyway, she. And said, I like to call it a game, Caroline. It's like it's picking up, but you know, it's not understanding him. So now it's like time at Salou party, and she's like, just took a lot of work to find native fire-breathing dancing people and five star dinner and hut have never been to on about. And on top of that, we found some weird inflatable water toy, which was really, oh Carolina again. So sorry, who breath a pool noodle. Carolina. Sorry, you every single time, Caroline. Thanks. So captain leap. It's on his best time Bahamas and they all go. And it's like drummers and Adrian is like my favorite game been given is Merlin because I like create things out of thin. Air should concoctions like coconut lime. There's literally song that goes go the lime in the coconut, put it all in or something. Okay. He's like salt pepper. It's crazy. Scallions onions spices. It's all gonna come out, get those. Yeah, I'll and vinegar. I came up with this thing. I call up peanut butter and chocolate Boola Merlin. So then over at the boat, everybody's cleaning, the rest of them are cleaning and ten is all right. Gonna shut my eyes for fifteen. Yeah. Fifteen, you know, he'll say, right, right. And then Riley's like, hey, do before you before you or to lease Lewis? Do you have a plan for the shifts tonight and channels? Like I'm gonna sleep and you guys gonna do all the work. So that pretty much I'm gonna scratch my chin. So it looks like I'm really thinking about and asleep. Yes. So back back at the beach thing, Kate and jobs, I are like doing a little hula dance and Caroline's often the corner fiddling with garbage, like tying it says, hefty. That sought with so rude because these are hand held following them around at this thing like Kate into bobbing. And then she really was just like over in a corner with huge thing of Trat. And you see the spotlight come on her when the camera stores, and she looks at the camera like. I mean, it looks almost like she slow dancing with a trash. At this point. Cates like how just I can you do this the dancing, telling a story with your hands. It's such a good dance for two three would be too much just to just two of us doing it. There's only two, not three, not even though that roms I know three's company, but I don't want company tonight. It's just to me. Captain lease like beyond say, we're like the backup dancers any Michelle. I won't be Michelle. I'm never Michelle, which I loved that. Even on below deck, Michelle, get shaded poor, Michelle. Michelle volumes. Even just Joe's I on below deck is shading Michelle. Caroline's this point Carolina's done with the trash probably has like a like a tuna cans where kneecap at this point she doesn't realize, but they're doing the hula thing making jokes about beyond say, and Michelle and everything and Caroline's like, yeah, it's like the moose. Anyway, the wind is speaking of, I'm hearing sounds like hula dancing together and care. Should I be answered by God? I don't know what to do keys. As she doesn't says, she's kind of left out, you know, because she doesn't joining the dance trying to like labs vehicle there, but it's clear. They're like not inviting hula dance and they're just like talking over her about the on, say, and Michelle and Dreamgirls I know. And I feel like it all went downhill right here just because she just didn't join in the events. Like I was very. I mean, of course they've been shading her forever, but really for this cast and especially for these two Kate, you know, they were going to turn out to be totally evil to whoever was not them. Right. I know they're trying to be nice, right? I mean, they just can't. That was because I've been impressed this whole time and they were even like, look at us who the Dansk right next to you win sock. So. I couldn't quite do it. So she's laughing too hard and Cates like captain like the dream girl a worthy backups by the way, Jennifer Hudson was when women Oscar for that film. So. Oh, anyway, Caroline, you can go back with Ross now, Ross Ross, we're sending them up back with you. Ross boss. Oh, poor thing. I mean, I feel really bad for Carolina in this because she's like, she seems totally cookie, but she seems like nice. She does try to communicate her feelings a lot. Like here's how I feel, but everyone's like, yes, not the time for feeling I, I think she seems lovely, but she is not. She's not meant to be in a combined space with strong personalities, TV cameras. Yeah, it's like an Eminem and account. She feel bad that it got lost a bit you. It's like, you can't blame anybody for eating you. You know what I mean? She needs to work out a copy shop. She like not even like not like a Starbucks. Just like some coffee shop calls like pennies and clouds, you know, and like just work there, make friends to locals serve q. coffee and slices of quiche and call it a day. She needs. So, yeah, Cates like Ross Ross the year, sending. Talal is coming back in case you are short. If someone to sexually harass, we are sending us up towels in target to help with any messes there. So please enjoy them. So back on the boat airlines back on the boat and Ross's like Chana, Todd, LA, Tonga, John love, John Roth, John LA and Caroline's like he's asleep. Cuts to him again asleep in his little shopping mask, Caroline's out his door listening in. Oh, that was good. Inhale, good x. hail those great job. So then back to the party and Kate's just like party now, you know, like, yeah, there's a fire answer. The captain. Wow. Was the best thing I've ever seen him. I got Dan wide. I also I love when Kate goes there, watching the fire dancing and all the local stuff and kids like, you know, the great thing about yachting is that we get to experience different cultures with the charter guest. This just feels so good. Oh, except for Caroline. She doesn't get to. 'cause I sent her back to the boat. Yeah, so ten pm Chandler filing gets up. Oh yeah. And now Chandler with Missy, what are you going to do after the charters? And she's like, gonna travel more, really wanna travel and stuff, and you know, go to places like, yeah, I wanna go to may orca. Oh my God. That's where I'm going. Just kidding. Unless you're going there and then I could go. Oh, I know I won't go. I won't. I won't go anyway. The other awkward flirting. She's like Caroline's. Like I mean, chillers, if I'm on Tinder, I would swipe right on. Right, right, right, right, right, right. Right. Like I actually did. I actually right on him like ten times and still is not ask me. His face is grey now. So I think you might have blonde me, but I'm not sure it's sort of awkward because I, I'm on Tinder, I'm sorry on the tender. That's why it was so awkward because I on sleeping him in person at my face. I'm gonna take him out. Line again is like very vulnerable and open with her feelings. I like you, he's like, yeah. Well, it's really hard for me to open up a cab just hoping you would goes. Takes time. Poor, Caroline, poor poor, Caroline, what you're gonna do, what you're going to do so don't come for you. Oh. Oh, thank you for for detecting what I was doing there. So I know you always will. You'll always get Mon Joseph references. So. Cops. I figured I after when he said, thank you for being there for me. Like lips. I was not there for feel it. Carolina might just dropped a ball. My Joseph and technicolor Dreamcoat references and Chandler totally gets them. I mean, he doesn't totally get them, but I know he wants to get them. Swipe. Choose. Actually, I actually believe that her Tinder profile pic is her in technicolor dream. Carolina Tenneco dream Goten, but she's always in the part where he gets thrown into lion stand like someone will let me out of here at some point. I mean, when I'm saying close every door to me, I didn't mean that you guys all have to close your doors to me in the hallway literally in my face. No, not me. So. It's another breaking dinner. They're going back to the boat. And once again, we have some like apron moments from the deckhands channels like, all right, you guys can knock off now Ashton. I'm gonna knock you off now. Handle this by myself. Like this lot of work to do g's because he lets guys go to bed. He's like, yes, I sure deserve a risk. This is a lot. I'm going to do it by myself. But Riley Riley, rally rally rally doesn't said beach club by. Okay. Now you have officially pushed me over into Riley side. You piece of shit. Have you done anything all fucking day? You've gone to bed four times. I know. And don't even say it's because you on lates because you went to sleep at two thirty in the morning and Carolina went to sleep at five in the morning. Okay. And you got your eight hours of sleep. So now even ashes getting annoyed. He's like all just think. I think we could be described scheduled. I haven't had any good breaks going nonstop, and that's the thing they've all been going nonstop and it's and challenges confronting these quote, unquote. Two minute breaks that are like clearly two hours. And then this is a really good porn scene for you totally thought of you in this in this scene because ashen Ross Ashton right. Yeah, just ask Ashton Roscoe to bed and Ross is like only one Dan a bit. Any service on your phone. I'm like, oh, gee. Now you're gonna look at together. That's. Like go to get up early night. Go to get up five to be out EPA six and he's like, oh, good to mand. Skype. It's like, oh, jeez, you to ready? Yes. And let us watch. So. Let's be really. I don't eat that specific, amateur, yes. It'd be like a weird like, yeah, so he blur into like homemade videos. Do I want that you better get some lighting? Yeah, yeah. Gives them lighting and then we'll talk. So so now kids clean dishes with Caroline and Riley's running a letter. It's twelve thirty five and Caroline's like Kate, I just I feel like there's more like weakness in the first charter and just like I feel like a little left because you guys are roommates, and I totally get it. Like has roommates. I get it, but like you know, like it just a little like, I don't know. Maybe it's crazy case like. I, I wonder why the blender is talking so much. Jerry member when I asked that k- cut machine, how it was feeling. I did not expect it to answer. I, I'm surprised that the Vitamix has so many opinions. It's just a Vitamix after all. We paid a lot of money for it, but. I just felt left out when you guys were like break dancing or whatever cases, like I wrote size dries. Carolina them. If I may be patronizing few, geo firmament, you're sensitive. I noticed that don't lose that though. It's nice. Oh, thanks. No, I'm talking about the glasses. Those are nice classes. Can you put on the shelf? Thank you so much. He feels things. Wow, that's door -able. Maybe you could feel things with the dish rag in your hand, that'd be great. Do you think I'm crazy ridiculous. Yes. Yes. We. We think you're crazy ridiculous and amazing and amazing the perfect thirds do. I mean, heck you might be the perfect fifths do okay. I mean, do vase doing some great work too. So she's like, well, I could see why she feels left out his. We leave for out. So. You're welcome. She says, we don't wanna be mean girls, Caroline. You can sit with us Carolina Wednesdays. We wear blue. Wednesdays, we were anti Caroline shirts. Let's see. Says this is the problem with three. That's my won't have threesomes. Someone always feels left out. Like that's accurate. She would be like, oh, she's just kind of like this are in the three. Some like I just wanted to. Okay, I'll wait until your ten Carolina's thing that like this. It's a five pack of batteries and the flashlights only need to to reach. He just always can be the last one left out here basically like a fullback of hot dogs, and we're like a full back of buns and the number matching someone's just not gonna eat that day. Listen, you don't fit in, but we still need you to get the rest of the hot dogs. Stroll east. Now it's time for commercial. It's time for, whoa, Kraft, macaroni and cheese. Now, office kit, uproot balance, Neal's of frozen oil. Whoa, that's crazy when it comes to getting your kids to complete well balanced meal, sometimes it's a big challenge, big jolly yet. Yeah, you know what? What's the matter? What's going on? New Kraft, MAC and cheese. Meals are made with delicious chicken meatballs and veggies fruit. So kids will happily developed entire plate for change. I mean, how about that matter? What's going on and Purfleet portion Delic the best way to champion the challenge. Okay. What's gonna? We love Kraft, macaroni and cheese. I've always loved Kraft, macaroni and cheese. 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Jake makes a cameo appearance talking with captain Lee and he's like, you know what? I think it'd be awesome. Let's do is synchronize bender drop and captains like, yeah, that's what I call. Yeah, the cameras goes off and the camera goes off and he just starts beating Jake over the head with tennis shoes. Get back down in the boat where you belong idiot. Super nice Fender. What do you think we do every fucking charter? How about some secret is kicking, Jake highlights and synchronize. Get back to work in Jake. Speaking of synchronization to science. Like Kate, I've done a massive station. They can have either grapefruit on stews and she's like. But what about that Bloody Mary over there? That's Caroline. So now it's like there's some anger time. It's breakfast. There's many lobster quiches Allen by the entire time Allen, the primary charter guess he's like, oh, oh, we're gonna take this guy bag. That's what I gotta say. He's having the best time. Hey, Brad news guys were still in the. Hey, guess who's the worst grew ever the opposite of your crew. So so captain lead base is like, okay, right everyone we're going to synchronize. We're going to a the vendor draft and we're gonna do this board. So all the all the deckhands are standing around waiting for Chandler to come up with a plan. And of course he's like nowhere to be found. So Ross is like, we'll take over. So he tells it was, oh, we're going to syllabus. Bogeyed isn't that? What does a whole plan Chandler radios in his. Hey, guys, but just going do port before starboard. Okay. That's where we're going to do. Thanks, Chandler. Thanks. Yeah. But in this case, see like Ross and Chandler both on my nurse, so I don't know who cyber take. I'm on friends. I like Ross more than Chandler way more than gentlemen. I'm the so like Chandler more than Ross, you see? I mean, so there's going to our main dividing factor through the whole seat Ross more than Chan there on the show too. But. Russ's. Like, I'll guess we're not gonna get stroke, Shane, so you did this and you do that and you need it. So that's not your fucking job. And then Chandler does come over the radio and given structured, and then they start laughing and I'm like, but he actually did it like he got out of bed for this one. I'm not giving Jenner any credit for getting out of bed. Okay. So I feel like Ross had a bitch moment, but I think overall, he's like a nice guy, and I think that he's like really responsible, whereas I think that Chandler had a bitch moment and he's also a Napper and I just, I don't like that. Okay, fair enough. Thank you so then Riley's cleaning and she's like cleaning, and then the captain. Wow. Dan Riley. Sit sit good dog. Nice Foley. Nice. That was come after it would come after family ties at the end of family. Tag. Oops, it wasn't. We make more stuff. Can we have another Tila television show? So we can like have my of a dog. You know what I mean? So the guests leave and they're like, ok guys. Now here's one envelope. This is a good tip, but here's a second flow. Excellent. Okay. I know we complain about monsters, but get off. Get off this boat mice. People after this nice people, Caroline Caroline's like that was just like a beautiful speech, beautiful charter, and I'm starting to tear up a little bit and I don't know. Just beautiful, like cry and jobs is like, Kate this box. Let's machine is leaking. Oh, that's you crying Carolina's and it's. So let's see. They're cleaning and Carolina and Riley. And then Cates like, okay, well, Kate anybody to anybody, Kate to living breathing people. Obviously, Caroline. There's a case in the foyer if someone wants to run that out and where's Riley got dammit Riley Riley Riley Riley, there's luggage, because by the way he gave the order for them to all change because they were done and they didn't take out the luggage yet. So she had already gone to change. So, yeah, he's like. The rest of them hadn't changed yet. So they're all started up and she's like, like, I'm sorry, I'm changing as per the orders just finishing changing and we're not changing into luggage as off like, I'm sorry. I just can't back to change instructed and just listening, dammit, negation telephone game, you fucking creek Riley. I love that. She's always Cussing. People have under her breath. Yeah. Chandler's like I mean, did she not see all of us run out and our outfits. No, she didn't. That's the point. Maybe she's got things over is so she can sleep for five times stain about that. Maybe she's like loosening at this point because she hasn't had a bunch of catnaps. Okay. So then we see everybody like changing napping cleaning, whatever ashes, like. I have to say in that panel because they did the panel shot like twenty four, whether you see everyone changing and everyone's changing except for captain Lee who's back in his table sit when he was like one hand, his head is resting on one hand and just like God the windows dirty again. Captain lease just sitting there like he's looking despondent, just the whole episode. He's just sitting there staring off into space. He won't people are talking directly to staring at the wall behind them. I had planned bam, Hal cheese. This mother effing Christ on what act died, but it's just a running running, train of God. Damn, it's going through his head. So then Carolina goes to like the threshold of Kate's room, which. Oh, come up. You know, you're always welcome here. I mean, how else are we gonna mock you. This is the steep house, not just the cages I best friends. You'll never be a part of it has come on. Let's just had a meeting here. Okay. How about that. Okay, jobs I do something. Fabulous. Carolina do everything else. Great. Here's a list. Oh my God. You're so helpful. They are. Aren't they? Caroline, that's yourself off. Okay. Why do you keep tapping me on that? Oh, I'm so sorry. I thought you were the stapler. Kate, thank God. I love these. Cheetahs are stales. She's Zaia. Cheetos. I mean, Caroline came. So Caroline leaves Josie goes, she makes me laugh so much. I know because we have to see shorthand like stale Cheetos of. You know, like dustbuster get out of my penthouse sat around. I mean, I got, we need to make more of an effort to include Caroline, and he goes. Absolutely. It's not like we don't like her. We just don't like her. So he's like, we have to say mindset. We've both mastered the resting bitch face, so all right. Well, this was a fence stale Cheeto meeting, but I gotta go get captain lease juiston pickup dirty into wear notebook down. So now the way that scene ended with pink. I really do so. So now meanwhile, Riley's complaining about the way Chandler talks to her and she's saying how like basically, channel dozen talk to the guys the way he talks to her, you know, all this stuff and Ross all of a sudden Ross, maybe because he's fed up about that hold synchronize Fender situation or maybe he feels bad about tattling. He's like on your doing a great job while I can see doing a great job. Yeah, great job, a great little gale, and she doing a great job 'love. Yeah, I think he realized that a one person mutinies not really gonna work. Yeah. So Ashton and Ross are like doing bro hugs and their meeting and the captain's, I write everything was great. Food was a hit luau nail. That Maxine area was outstanding God, even that mop trying to pretty entertaining for about five seconds. We, we got a great tip. We got twenty two thousand dollars point city I plant, I'll wait. That's Carolina. So they decide, you know what? What time is it is party time to music? Yeah, it's the best we've ever gotten and then the money doesn't have that much value in my eyes. The music. And I have three is that's like a lot of no value. And Chandler, I wanna see Yunfei minutes ups. The years before I l the bar for another vendor drop finish. So so Chandler goes upstairs and captain leads sits down cell. This is a trick question, but I'm going to trap. Yeah, that crew going, no problems. Now problems. So channel. I kind of lying head. Yeah. And captains like map be specific. Each specific pain spent John. China's alligator and we're going to each new app all there's always like backlash or something like you say something, but then on the back end, there's backlash on the back end from specific Riley just fry. That's it. And like captain Lee is because basically Chandler's saying, like, I mean, I don't see what we can do with or anymore. I mean, she's she's a woman. I mean, what do you do that? So basically out and lease like his, like she's doing your job, she's hard to get along with, but so what she's doing her job, but Chandler is like us like really, really trying to get her fired. He's going hard and the capital says Chandler to have a heart for Riley. And I don't mean that in the biblical sense. A lot of hard on the bible. We'll apparently there's a lot of people in the world. That's true. That's where it all started. And Murat people fought owns Ghana. Eat in. So anyway, there's like talk and basic happens like, well, you know, there's being talked. Someone came up who was Matt Ryan Lee, his name Ryan's Wade's s for less. And he said, there's been a breakdown in communication and the chimp. And now John was like, oh, I've never had a problem with communication. I'm like, well, that's the thing with breakdown of communication. You won't get to hear problem any sitting there with his hands behind his head, like don't argue with the captain with your armpits Kip it the way you're gonna meeting and Avenida vice for me. Like, for example, can I just staple a penis onto Riley award and the captain's? Like here's some advice, how that I'm eating before the charter schedule people work with schedules, things like this is yada. Okay. If I give them play for today, it might not be that way tomorrow. A year round calendar. Making new plan for tomorrow that's called having daily meeting. Here's my plan going to bed meet about. So then meanwhile, Cape brings Joe's glasses, champagne. Just like here, let's toast to our two persons to crew. So they start talking about who's gonna bone. And yeah. Maybe not tonight, but I bet asked an and Riley and a fight and then have six, two alligators fighting. Hawk hill, I guess that's one way to say Caroline. So. Then down the crew mass. There's like a weird moment where agents like it's most down here might be are invisible friends. I don't really even know what that was about to Cise smells his armpits and he's like, maybe your alien counterpat. And then the chef just looks like stares around the room. He's like notice. He never denies it. Lucifer space, quiet. He's like not denying it alien men too. I'd like aliens to encounter jobs. I see how that would work out. Like we come in peace maybe. Next time you should come in fashion. We went down to earth and came off to spaceship, and then some geic I put a hat over our face and walked away. We traveled thirty thousand light years to get earth. And then as we got there, we just kind of like outsiders. How about traveling lighter years. I can't believe you're able to travel light years when you look so heavy here, take Caroline. I suppose they must have lots of cobb's on your end of the galaxy. Caroline, how about trust them into galactic fasting. Here you can have Carradine, but I suggest you don't probe, you want nightmares. It'll be for you. Probed as much as we can. Let me tell you something. There's nothing there. We didn't know if it was an anal probe or an Lia cleaning. I don't know how you can probe beach ball, but you can give it a try Carolina, never mind. So Riley, snuggling with Ashton and I'm tired. You think do is he kind of just stares at his phone really. Do anything asked him at this point. He's just like, all right, whatever. Yeah, she's like, well, there's obviously some kind of chemistry like we snug all. Would he take her there? Probably he's like. Yeah, he's like, I haven't slept in five days. So now it's like reproach, ING, nighttime, the guys are all hanging out, drinking some beers, and they're just like egging on Chandler about Caroline. This is become a thing where they are trying to make Carolina Chandler thing and gems light. No, I'm not. I like normal girls. Uh-huh. Looks just plain just passed by your house. It was. It was just arriving in a private plane. Like, are you going to end this podcast. So, yeah. This is not to be like that, but I actually. I thought I wasn't sure necessarily that Jenner was straight. I didn't realize I was doing. I can't even tell anymore. I'm not trying to do in a way to be like l. actually generally thought like he was maybe on our team. So I have no idea. I mean, it's twenty eighteen. I could have my penis inside if you would still whether you're a or not get. Cake. Exactly, exactly. So we're all in every is. Yeah, whatever he is. We're all in one big spectrum away. So Cates telling Caroline. Okay, Caroline, your ten for today and Carolina's. Yeah. And then she likes hands. He goes deaf clap. Yeah, that's a little no pun intended. That's a little tone deaf. Okay. So now they are like going out dressed like they're getting give each other massages in the van case, not worrying abroa- than let's get crazy Ross farts on Ashe's face out later. This had that that like don't forget okay. Yeah. So they they go out and you know, this is a below dick dinner because they are all having a spread so martinis except for Carolina. Bless her heart. She she decides tonight. So she's going to stay sober which wrong night? Yeah, wrong night. So they, they all do coasts. Let's all Razek laugh. That's Toews each other. Let's toast every single competent crew member on this at this table right now. Clink clink clink clink clink. The quake me, sorry. Sorry, I thought you were the menu. So Caroline and Chan they're talking about. Being tired on on on charter. Straight. And then just like Jessica sucks already, tired sex, very tired sex. So it's like washing Chiesa sandpaper having sex rallies like I could use and how long's it been? Yeah, you need to spend since last summer. Yeah, you need it. And Ashton goes, she's Norte. Austin powers all the sudden. Yeah, so basically everyone's getting wasted and Caroline's like, hey, Kate, I'm combing. I smoked you wanna come. No, not really. Yeah, I think I just I think I'd rather say with Riley that gives you an indication of my interest in hang out with you right now. Caroline. I'm in a very deep conversation with this bread basket. So Chandler so so Carolina basically goes as most grow Chandler's. They're all snickering because they're like, of course, Chandler's gone, Caroline's, gone cetera. So back on the boat Riley's getting past, she's heard all these rumors. So she's trying to get Carolina open that they eat a desert out of the fridge or whatever, like some cash. And by the way, the reason why Riley is pissed because Riley and Carolina are becoming fast friends, the roommates, but if Carolina's interested in in Chandler, that's a problem for Riley because Chandler Israelis are stem says it's a little bit of like what we saw with Hannah and Brooke and Jiao doi- a little below dick made storyline. So Chandler comes like. The semi eating maps that love some. So he starts eating some of the cake and rallies like rally out. And so later, that's when Ross far off the Ashton, which is really important important for all of us. Yes. Caroline's like. We're not dating. I think the started with Kate and Kate comes into the hot tub is so hot, and these strengths are so cold. And like God sees and then kit literally and they're one of those tiny cabins and can't literally turns her back to Caroline's face. And then just stands there. It's so good. It's so good. So Joe's I goes and makes them prominent and brings the bowls of Rahman upstairs. And now Kate NGOs. I are drunk. They've got rum in and they, they've been building up their power all all season long. They've been building up their power and now it is time it is time to unleash full on mean girl Vitry. I don't know if it's the alcohol or the sodium, but they sure went there. So. Like, oh, Caroline, somebody called her name is laundry, go it. That'd be, hey, just I, if you could anyone who would you fire and you get extra points, if you say Caroline. And then she goes Riley, she's the more on, and then he goes like, Caroline, oh my God, you're alienating the entire. Carolina downstairs in the hallway always words like just echoing throughout the, you know, like your year at all across the Hiti, although officiency are listening. Well, you have a problem with her. Talk with her tomorrow began another charter of her talking talking talking and not hearing hearing hearing. It's like speaking of, I heard what you were saying. Kevin. Then laundry basket certainly has a lot to say, come and come on. Benny roll here we'll to, let's talk about it or devil come on in, come on in. I love her, but she is an idiot. Oh, you're right. There aren't you. Oh my God, I'm cracking because this really was funny to watch, but I cringe and felt bad for Carolina. I this show is tricking me this year because every week is changing my mind, but of Morris this week, I mean, I did feel pretty bad for Caroline, fabric Carolina, but I feel bad especially because she seemed so sweet, but I just love watching two people be like cat in me and I'm sorry. I like it. I like watching it. It's funny. So that was blow Dak. Why don't we move onto some listener spot? Live Shelley, eight. So listeners spotlight is where we turn the show over to you guys and we let y'all speak. If you do it, you go to patriot dot com slash watch crap ins and you support at the listener spotlight level or crap in spotlight or above. 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