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RIP Chuck E. Cheese Band, Impeachment Party! 11.14.19

The Daily Zeitgeist

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RIP Chuck E. Cheese Band, Impeachment Party! 11.14.19

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You know being straight up out here in these streets It's Thursday November fourteenth. My Name Is Miles Gray Aka. I was full Mr the Mazda. I would do it again. But it's repetitive. And you get the point. Thank you to hand soltys for that Aka for the USA. That's bruce fantastic moving on embarrassment once more and you already. I heard that that that hunting voice moving through the air of one legendary frequent podcast guests sometimes comedian comedian writer host than go by cats podcast guest and think tanker Jamie Loftus. Okay let's see and how I do I'm GonNa Come Sums Gad's wet onesie mark I'm rubbing beetlejuice. Tugging my heartaches Sir disgusting. I'm GONNA come some scattered. That was worth it. It was from at the would Thank you for that. That was a halloween one but I saved it saved as it for. I'm GONNA come some scarves I'll get that Tad. I like whoa familiar with this. Whole scousers? Dry scabs what kind of scabs does has beetlejuice calmed when Jackie lates. What comes out west cavs or dry scabs? Yeah I believe them to be wet is is they try. I Know Trash Shuffling Cheka. Pike's bunch of poker chips joy. This guy I think it's just like like the the human male it's like there's there's like there's the dry scabs. But they're carried out through the wet well but it could be a very violent process. It's it's a very dry operation it's very very clinical very dry and I think it feels good for him well. I'm glad that was the first words our guest I ah I would like to formally introduce our guest First time guest someone who is. I've actually been a fan of unbeknownst to him from sketch. Comedy days on Youtube Please please welcome to hilarious. Alan Stricklin Williams. Thank you so much. It's going to be here I. This is just nice to really flex my Come scab expert muscles is right away. I normally don't don't get to do that. hydrodynamics so very concerned with the flow of I wonder is there I went to. I went to dirtbag bag. Medical school comes. Scam actually used to teach the first class. I took comes 1:02 I know to okay. So you've you're out EDUCA- love this already. 'cause it's like come Scott's 'cause anyway impeachment. Yeah well that's the vibe of the show. This is kind of how America works. We're all over the place. We'll talk through look actually before we even get to. We're going to tell people we're talking about okay. Not just come mm scabs. We're GONNA be talking. Jason Biggs is. He has a new role very interesting. Then we're going to check in with the impeachment testimony owning gold. I'm talking about this. Because we had some bombshell testimony yesterday as well as some of what's kind of bubbling on the right in response to all this damning testimony we will get to a very very important story about the war that we are waging from the left on Thanksgiving because as we have conservative shook. Because we've you know I I guess one it. All all it takes is one HUFFINGTON. Post article in the world comes to falling down. I said comes comes SCABS Come and also talk about Disney plus moby guys sick new TAT and sick. I Shit because it's the DC Before we do all that Allen what's up. What is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Oh I the last thing I searched was Donna. Rice who was is the Woman that Gary Hart was having an extramarital affair with I forget why I was listening to something or watching something and she came up and I was like I wonder what she's up due to these days. Yeah I checked I checked she. She pretty quickly not pretty quickly. But after Maybe ten years or so after she he was Proto. Lewinsky like type is this was eighty four. His eighty eight eight was the election year. I this might have happened in eighty seven. God got it. I think it might ninety four or something like that. She became the head of this organization. Called enough is enough. That basically is like you know Standards Stalwart against things like this happening in rehabilitating like What's the word Your reputation and things like that. So she's been pretty actively actively and continuously engaged in that since then And she stole a babe. What what what was your fascination? Are you big into politics. Yeah I guess so I. I really can't remember what what clued me into to look it up but I. I think I was watching something. I listen to an interview where they mentioned her All right and And I was like. Oh Wow what happened. Where are they know? 'cause like 'cause like in every once in a while like Lewinsky will pop up and something right and I was like oh I wonder. Why don't they yeah she? She drives a lot of days there. I mean bitch is she like on the frontlines of that stuff as well. I mean it sounds like she is yeah. She seemed very active. Yeah I read the I mean the movie kind of sect but the I read the front runner last year. And it's just what it was during the someone on the front runner. That's why I was on the page for that movie because huge isn't it rights and Alfred. Molina no I had to say yeah. Yeah the book because really good. I enjoyed the book a lot. 'cause it was actually a good solid reporting in sound like she just got like I mean late it always is like the rise deal absolutely absolutely as mayor there. There's another there's another book called what it takes. That's about it pretty much. Everyone that ran eight except for Because because he came in late to the race or the reporter that wrote it didn't have enough time at least that's what he said of for. Jesse Jackson didn't get a fair shake in the book. But it like it goes into Dole and H W and Dukakis and Dick Gephardt and Gary Hart and like all these people it was a very interesting. It's like thome but but very good read Nice. If you're into campaign stuff now I know something about you. You like to camp over here What's something that you think's owed underrated underrated? I said lie made I feel like we're all we're all we're always doing lemonade in an Arnold Palmer. I've been experimenting with like some lie. Made in some like ally made in like a black tea or like I like fucked up Arnold Palmer situation. Yeah no that's fucked and then are fine and then also just taking like Like middle or Pacifico enthroned some lime eight in their great wolf so like a weird Shan Lime Shandy. Yeah Wow like Shah Sandy McConnell Wow that's men are really like that. Not Enough people come in here talking that linemates. What kind of line made you buy? I usually get the stuff at TJ a trader Joe's sort when they've updated the packaging for it but But yeah it's just like it it'll last like maybe week or weaken some change. What do you mean why? Why would last week depending on your drinking? I mean you know I like to like a straight line. Yeah exactly exactly. Yeah Yeah Yeah Wild because it is a it can be a lot just to drink the library power. There were some companies making a cherry lie. I made for a while that I was drinking. Is it's a little spendthrift has raspberry lime like Oh gosh I think it was. Maybe maybe like you know California farms shit or one of those places but I loved it. What is something you think is overrated? Closes classic the Go-to for me cucumber. I think cucumbers are like the most underrated thing on. Why why they do they do nothing they do? Nothing for me. Goggles Goggles. Nothing at that time. Fine I'm fine with that as the for SPA treatment numbers exactly what they should do something cucumbers they do not like in water or like a cucumber sandwiches like we we. You just don't need that. Is it just because of the the flavor is a little bit because not very Intensive flavor the mealy texture the that is an extremely cucumbers me too but I think it's because I used to say my favorite food was cucumbers when I was a little bit because my favorite food is salad dressing. And you just eat the US you drink out the bottle. I absolutely catalina dressing right at the bottle down very so glad. When I was a kid I used to take like the the like lettuce that ah like the Italian and the ranch was on which is now I could not look at Rancho hate ranch now but apparently as a as a kid I like used to take it and just lick it off and then put the lettuce back in the artichoke? Yeah Yeah we don't even for one you lick the goodness off off the split. So I am Q- I did a podcast recently. Where they're like pick a food? You hate. We're GONNA make a ton of food so I wish yeah it's called try try and I pick your number and the one thing that I had was really good was called. I think it was called cucumber me so which taught me security in Japan? Yeah Yeah and so it's like you you it's literally just using it to dip in salad dressing but it's like this so pay stuff. Yeah and I was like. Oh yeah this is great for me. I'm half Japanese. My introduction to cucumbers is like that having me so on their or like Chinese cucumbers to were you just use like a bunch of garlic and Chili oil okay. You're there sort of half marinated a little bit so when you eat it there the fuck inflate. It's almost like a pickle or something in a way Abo- the flavor it's I think you overcome the blandness. Show if you WANNA say it but I think the Persian cucumber and the Japanese cucumber are our greatest offerings to the Kingdom Kingdom of cucumber to Cumberland Finally Allenwood is a myth. What's something that people get wrong? Or you know you know the truth behind something that people get wrong or you know that you may have had something wrong and find out what the truth was. It's very convoluted way of saying my Meth is that vaping kills hell. Because I don't think it does. Yeah well certain kinds of chemicals in vaping products. Kill 'cause I 'cause I've apron. I'm not dead yet. What seems there was a there? You go science wherever you need to check me out. 'cause seemed funny papers no I think. A lot of people you know is that vitamin E. OIL ACETATE Amina State. Yeah it was the thing because it was a lot of black market. THC and then they wanted to just sort of extend that into vaping. Obviously there's still some research I may be has to be done there but it was interesting about that whole thing is like. There's a group of really avid did nicotine vapors who are like ready to revolt against the president who are Republicans who are like trump supporters. Who are like for our vase? Juice will what's his name There you could see video of him the guy that got in trouble for like his wife Dunkin Hundred Dunkin Hunter there. There's there's video of him in Congress Tapie. It's just like I'm like wow that is that's the dream really utterly disrespect. I mean and I guess he was blowing clouds. Yeah like he was just vape with Slyke. Yeah discerning there is a yield the remainder of my hit the remainder of this cloud. Whoa I'm like overly cautious another say when I found out about all this stuff is being published? I just like made I. I was trying to make my boyfriend stop but he just stopped in front of me. The go starts east of. But but as Allan pointed out he is not dead. Yeah is it important. You got to look at the fact so really I do. Think that Like I kind of low key was actually looking because I really do a lot just for just packs. ERA POD USED OIL CAR retires I go to the I go to the the dispensary and I get like what are you use. What do I loon loon? I believe is what's it's called L. E. V.. I use that a lot and then I use one called Don Penn ally dumping Disposable opposable but you gotta get on that reusable battery life man. I would the good for like concerned onto the generally. Talk like you should be. Ah vape and the garage Yeah Yeah Look. I'd actually don't have too much because it just doesn't get me. They're like I need to like I needed to lower the reason why like vaping is because I can do it on my office job right and do it at my desk and stay there and just work work and like right and it doesn't give me as like whacked out high. Sure she just sort of low level like not losing my mind not being mean to anybody for no reason right getting my work done monster I just. I get stressed out and especially when I'm working on Shit to deal. It's nice to have that sort of low level like you seem so even killed right now. Are you unless you're you've been vaping out of my mind. I actually am the I'm ghost of vape cloud black smoke like dude. I don't know if that's Allen is the souls Okay let's move into the news Jamie you have the The huge responsibility of co hosting with me of totally disorganized person with a lot of distractions. Hyperactivity question what is the news very question community that I think will we got. We got to start with the heavy hitting stuff. Okay yeah okay. I said what's what's going on. So so yeah you said find something some find some light fair of what's going on. I've got a story that I think is criminally criminally. Under reported music connects through a press conference this week and announced Jason Biggs as their new guy. Hi and there's a new guy. Their new Their new spokesman so he came. He came to Jason Biggs. He's not that famous so he's just promoting Musa next nightshift. He's not the whole bread. They don't need bigs for everything they just need him to take the night shift. If you see this picture of God there's a picture of the Muse. The next guy from Mucus Mr Mucus and respect. They also rebrand. Mr Mucus were much like we had done. We're talking about chucky cheese later But Mr Mucus used is to be that. Like I'm walking. Here in New York Guy Overalls on wife-beater and you're like he's he was maybe toxic so now we've rebranded. Mr Mucus is now. He's wearing a flannel and he looks like a alt-right meam like it. Looks like a fucked up version of PEPI. The frog was slimy from ghostbusters. Off Brand Ninja turtle they can airlines badly rendered. Shrek like I mean it looks like a booger or fuck some shit that will come out your body yet sign his. It's great that Jason Biggs now is a AH like associated with multiple fluids that. Come out of your body to come and mucus thing. If it's viscous listen Google man. Well how how do you guys feel bad bracket going. He'd be the most we don't know. Oh it seems like there may be taking the temp by throwing this press conference. There's a weather balloon. Seeing whatever does it was reported on page six Jason Biggs has an extreme plan to avoid getting sick this year. He said he says and I think he's I think he's trying to prove that he could be a spokesman quote as much as I take precautions when cold and flu season approaches as much as I like to think that I really strengthen my immune system I always end up getting sick and so he's told this to page six while promoting At the press conference that hard up for money. That's a weird. I'm trying to really look like career. What we're doing here? Well so I think that this opens an interesting discussion. I should hope we'll continue this. Why why episodes I'm here to really set up? Yes some food for thought So as Allen was saying upstairs the former commute spokesman was TJ. Miller is no longer working very much So I think Musa necks. You know he he. He got in trouble for rape and assault. That's right he was in trouble for some really really really bad stuff and it makes sense that would sever this tie just saying it's interesting to me that they would then go to Jason Biggs who also has not not that level of of bad. But do you remember like when Jason Biggs was on orange is the new black and then he was phased out because he was such a like misogynist asshole. There's there's like all these stories from like twenty thirteen fourteen Bagman. I show is getting started where I guess he's just like he's just like a fucking Dick what did he say he is a receipts. Softest all right we've got we've got some shit there's a salon article from two thousand twelve because of course there's a law salon article that year you're But basically he went on like a misogynist tirade on twitter and then double down refused to apologize and then orange is the new black was. I was just like well. You can't be one of those weird conflict of interests like I don't know. Do you think this is the extent to which it's the work has dried up. I would I would wager. It seems like not a lot of people wanna work with him and so he's like he's a pie he he I mean in his defense he fucked a pie but I think I don't know I mean is it. An indication was disabled. Biggs was a Salem Houston campaign in Hashtag wakeup human. Well I will interesting Hashtag campaign I say it it. Maybe it is the perfect marriage because like no one no one wants to be the Moose next person right right right. I'm Jay Miller was just the voice right. He wasn't outwardly. Like chumming coming it up with a person in a suit that look like Green Com. Not that I know of but he was definitely the voice of you. Is the voice sometime. Well it's one of those things it's it's like like a Lotta guys. Don't want a lot of actors don't WanNa do like stuff about like Viagra or whatever they don't want to be like associated with the linus associated with erectile Aktau dysfunction at this point but begs might be big little perk. This might be this might be his is autumn of his career or this. He's like the dream collaboration for him. I really loved the product which is wild. Because he's in his late thirties. Not that but I mean he's he's on his forties uh-huh maybe forty one forty one. He's got a bunch of sons he's got yeah he's got a he's got a small Harem. Karema suns at this point and so music next is going to put food on the table for his menu. He didn't work at all in two thousand eighteen now. I think that he is kind of like low key blackley exactly might be able to work with ingesting thickens so that's the bigs update. Well thank you so much for that And let's let's his marinate eight on that and take a quick break and we'll be right back this just in. It's officially the fall and that means a lot of things to a lot of people. The leaves are changing color. It's time to break out. The pumpkins breakout the football and most importantly break out. The truly hard seltzer are truly has only one hundred calories but as five percent AB and only one gram of sugar per container. It's the can't miss drink of the season. Don't take my word word for it. Try Truly Hard Seltzer today. Truly drink what you truly want. And we're back and Wednesday. The official public face of the the impeachment inquiry has begun talking about impeaching this piece. That creep So Yeah George. Can't Bill Taylor went to the hill and it was not good for the president. I think it's there isn't really anything new They were both beyond credible bull. They were just very calm no matter what kind of You know sort of frantic questioning was coming from the right When you look at it like Kent is a third third generation in his family to serve the country like in some form or another? Bill Taylor is basically fucking like Captain America and they both said like the shitty parts out loud that trump was pressuring the Ukrainians into announcing investigations into the Biden's in the twenty sixteen election in exchange change for military aid to fight Russia as well as a Oval Office meeting which is a great Optic you know one up for a newly elected president such as Alinsky and of story boom. That's it any further questions Yeah it was also I mean the one thing that was new as Taylor also said there was like a new little thing that he had known that he had learned after his first Round of testimony that was behind closed doors is that he found out there. One of his staffers offers that in Kiev Gordon sunland called president trump directly on his cell phone to discuss basically like the like were the pressure campaign was what I was going And then afterwards Taylor's aid escort and Stalin. He goes how does how trump feeling about Ukraine and his answer was basically all he cares about. Are these investigations Certainly seems so. There's another trump direct line and you know it was a little odd too. I mean I'm sure somebody saw a little bit bit of the back and forth but the Republicans like when they had their sort of swipe at it. It was a lot of lame questions and distractions whether it was like trying to put like Obama's almost policy on trial or if it was trying to say like yeah but the money flowed my question. Do you know I would assume they can't and Taylor are Republicans right. I think probably one or two of them are. They probably can't be like opened with it but it seem to be the. That's the interesting part. Is Washing a little bit but it was like. Oh the the. The Republican Congressmen are going or Congress. People are going after Kenton Taylor but it's like AAC do there are all that same. Yeah that's why they couldn't really go. After their character. Anything else had to just be like really lame stuff. It's like did you know this is political. Article came out and like the Ukrainians didn't like trump so they were meddling right cause cancer is wearing a bow tie. I'm like that guy is a Republican Wants you to like he dares Tucker Carlson to say some. I'm dressed like you. I mean it was it was kind of comforting to see that the like the blowback from the Republicans was that week. I mean truly was nothing there where they had to go ten years back to try to dig up something like there's there's appeared relevant. They have no fact witnesses to rebut. Like what these. The testimony of these witnesses are all they can do is be like. Yeah but you didn't talk to trump directly. Did you is like no but I talk to the ambassador like I talked to the guy who talked. Everyone's trying to do is to Hendrick and also it's really weird that Sunland had a direct line into the president because a lot of other former bashes like first of all. That's very odd that you would know that secondly trump was trying to act like. I don't know her about Gordon. Sawn Land and and also said that he was a great American. Yeah it's like dude you were on the phone with me like give me a status update one of one of the Congress. It was like Isn't it true that Obama was born in Kenya bringing it back. Yeah Right. Essentially yeah. He's like it was all Muslim. I'm sorry I I don't what Here to answer about what. The president's actions were I think you know again there was just. It's it's it's going to be tough for them. And every witness. Who Goes Up? There makes it painfully clear. What the situation was and no matter how much the right tries to office gate and sort of distract us by being like well again the thing? It seems like they were really trying to hammer home. But the money in the aid actually float eventually so like it was only like attempted extortion. Essentially I mean and they're not going that for like it was attempted. But they're saying well what's the problem. There were no investigations and the money flowed without really pointing out the fact that I believe the aide was released on September eleventh which is like one or two days after the White House found out that there was a whistleblower. Also they're still trying to the investigation happened through this. They're trying to bring in Biden and hunter to it right through through like acting as if it would be inappropriate to pursue the president for trying to Carry on an illegal or initiating hidden illegal investigation by legalizing a normalizing it and bringing them into the process makes no man. It's just like when the facts are that that much against you. It's like we're just GONNA scream. Listen it's like a very wise man once told me Facts bound care about your feeling a. There's a there's a some guy dated podcast. He really encouraged me to start up. The in between vaping is bad. Would it be in your mouth. You imagine what Mike. I'm blown Ringer Ma. No this is relevant to the old on the somebody who thought it was hot to blow a vape bring into your mouth. Yeah it wasn't long okay. That'd be yuck nobody. They they have a curly fingerless leather gloves looking biker. Oh that's like well. Is it shocking. That person as his aim for his name as my father. No let's not dig too much into just sort of like the GOP lawyer in dig too much into the fact we go right back around The Guy who like obviously after the the questioning from the chairman chairman and the ranking member which is Devon Nunez and Adam Chef They basically then had time to have lawyers ask questions to do something. A little more focused much better. I will say than the Muller when Muller went out publicly like this looked and sounded as damaging as it had to and was effective. I think but but One of the the you could tell again. The facts are not on their side because when he was talking to Bill Taylor Bill Taylor saying like there was an irregular channel of diplomacy and he was referring to Rudy Giuliani and Rick Perry et Cetera. Just like fucking three Amigos Gang. That was going around doing their own shadow foreign policy. uh-huh fucking but the argument to like that about being like well it's Rudy and rick. Perry started like rattling off their qualifications. This is what the GOP side lawyer said to bill. Taylor and said you know in later questioning quote Castro outlined the qualifications of some of those Taylor had named as being part of the back channel L. Negotiations including including serving and former diplomats. And then this is what the lawyer asked quote this irregular channel of diplomacy. It's not as outlandish as it could be. Is that correct. And then he like choked back a laugh and he was like I guess it could potentially be more outlandish but they didn't murder murdering way. What would it could have been like worse right like at least these guys Kinda know about government? Sounds like they're in a punch over there like can we make this. How do we bring this to an eleven? At least rudy wasn't like distorting his voice using a machine wearing a mask right. That's in at least he did it like as himself right like he couldn't like you don't care you could have been like Guti Rule Yanni and like made up a fake aac name and stuff but like you get like he's a good guy. He's a good guy. Nike could have been worse. Could've been wearing black face the whole time. That would have been really great so really like what's this all about And then again as this was going on trump through I think Stephanie Grisham The you know whatever you WANNA call her the spokesperson press. The secretary said the president's too busy to watch even though he he watches everything even though he was like re tweeting in real time. A bunch of Shit like that people were doing during it. Donald Junior was like. It's it's so boring so boring like maybe that's the plan is to like put so much shit on TV. That trump feels like he has to watch that he just his brain explodes or something. Can't he just says key camp process all the different streams of information. I'm pretty sure they're going to just like end up being like dude the truth is for nerds really. If you think about it like really weak people rely on the truth and like strong people. Just fucking deceive and fuck intake. Take well that seems like what this is all been heading towards right is just like bamboozling people so much they really like. It doesn't even matter and like what the truth is like. This is more interesting. Well that's the only way they can try and I mean it's not even an argument but it's like they're running out of shit pretty soon. It's going to be like. Yeah but did Jesus really die for our persons And again just to sort of see how the right was operating during all this If you were watching the Fox News coverage this morning As Bill Taylor was reading his opening statement which was very damaging especially to see how calm credible he was reading. This is so right. After his opening opening statement Adam Schiff would then begin his questioning to fully drought more details. This is how if you're watching Fox News. This is how it would have sounded to you. If you're you're watching one of the more more important impeachment inquiries that's happening in our lifetime and I'm now looking forward to your questions. I thank you both for your testimony and I now recognize my second can grow back with questions in one minute. Mr Taylor began at Humana. We believe at your Wina. Couldn't even I mean really if you're wondering why your aunt and uncle can't hold discourse with you at Thanksgiving this year. That's because they either with another one. Yeah and then again just as sort of like kind of get a temperature around not just this inquiry but what's happening in the Senate because eventually if the house does impeach the president and it goes to the Senate there would be a trial there and a lot of people like well. What are the Republicans going to do because they have the majority there In a lot of people think that they would just outright be like now. We're good not guilty. Let's keep it moving. But however John Cornyn from Texas He says he's not sure they have the votes to even do that. Quote there's people talking about trying to stop the bill dismiss charges basically as soon as they get over here. I think that's not gonNA happen. That would require fifty one votes. They have fifty three so keep that in mind and said I think it would be hard to find fifty one votes to cut the case off before the evidence is presented. So that's I think a bit of an indication indication that there are few people who aren't willing to fully fuck around But it would. We still need a lot more for GONNA remove the president And then also just in swing states just sort of looking at the support for impeachment and removal. There was a survey of voters in Florida Michigan. Wisconsin Pennsylvania washers take for the. These are all states that went for trump and found that basically like a majority Of voters in those states supported impeachment and removal. So some it's it's definitely these and this was before the like public hearings so I think things might shift a little bit more Let's move onto something that someone actually has been being encouraged a lot recently. And that is Hillary Clinton. She went on BBC Radio Five and was half teasing another run as she said on the podcast. CASTER radio show. She was on quote. I as I say never never never say never I will certainly tell you you. I'm under enormous pressure from many many many people to think about it. But as of this moment sitting here in this studio talking to you that is absolutely not in my plans. It's it's it's it's so sad because it's like she her languages even like become trump a fide. She's she's like people are saying they want me to many people either. Yeah I mean hard hard hard now. We're all socialist. Now you missed it. Well we have all your side. You've got swindled. I think it's weird because a lot of the takes around this sort of little nugget like you know with Bloomberg basically about to hop in it showing that like the electorates really unsettled and like not really liking the candidates. They have to pick from like. I don't think that's true at all. The billionaires a Wall Street crowd who have been really able to rely on Democratic presidential candidate. I got your back. Those people the one guy who is is slowly rotting before our eyes and someone who just put him on timeout. This I mean probably is. Someone put Joe Biden Timeout And then the next two people in Line Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. How can they got? They're salivating like the cartoons. They WANNA fuck and eat. Eat the rich basically and I think that's a big one at eat. The Falcon Rich Watch. Hillary understand I I mean yeah could be Hillary in the guy running off the I mean who knows at the star of American Pie. The he's like you know what I do with. Iran's from Eastern Europe put my dig in I C. I surreptitiously videotaped them and livestream. I colluded with Natasha or Natalia. Then Bechtel cast on that episode. It was You own imagine it didn't do this to do to do Tuan when did did we talk about America. Oh wait didn't we talk talk about it at our live show a little bit too. We do the Matrix and a bit of American pie or wow what a what a time to be alive but a time to be Okay to the live shows so I just do want to Again as as promised reveal our plans fully transparently for the war on Thanksgiving. Yes Because that is apparently what the right Believes is what's happening right now Oh this is really. It's really shaking me when I think about So last year at trump said like their fundraising emails are saying like. He's the man Dan who brought Christmas back to America's team of like you're on Christmas Which is goes all the way back to the twenties? When Henry Ford was accusing Enj- Jews of having conspiracy to abolish Christmas Lee? Love does optic exactly. That's the that's the that's the fuel tank that this war on our holidays is sort heard of Ford versus Ferraris. About Right Ari was a big A A Lotta shitty things like I bet he's a Jew what he's Italian Henry Ford lease services. Anything cars it. Is it cars dude. It's Bella Mons man and I mean I don't know what the fuck this is about. I'm pretty sure if you don't have driver's license. They won't allow I uniform. I heard you have to see it at a drive in movie theater. Read in an old timey car so what happened was is there. There was a Huffington Post article that was just a very you know pretty objective. Take on like what. The environmental impacts are actually of Halloween. If you really look at what it means to engage thanks thanks. A whoopsie raised the holidays. You just show my bias. Even in the fucking article the author says serve up front. No one should be discouraged from enjoying the holiday or celebrating with family and friends. Okay and then sort of saying this is what I just want people to sort of think about. No not even that like you just cancelled Thanksgiving but this is sort of what it means meat and meat byproducts cheese butter heavy cream for example have a large environmental footprint plant based ingredients according to research done by Carnegie Mellon University the Carbon footprint of a sixteen pound Turkey creates a total of thirty four point two pounds of Co two the same amount produced by Turkey. Gravy cranberry sauce roasted Brussels sprouts mashed potatoes road biscuits and Apple Pie. Combine okay so that then they're like you know if you if this really matters Adar's to you could try sourcing your ingredients locally Like whether it's like the wine you're getting herbs or vegetables and maybe a smaller Turkey but there's a saying hey there is a connection right but not even to be like it's canceled however because the way I think conservative thinkers move is. Hey they're trying to make me aware of something. No they're trying to gary. And so yeah we're in this cancelation. Basically and that's the fucking take they went on I up Like Fox and friends they were. We're just sort of like you know they're trying to cancel. Thanksgiving is the word the phrase using Thanksgiving cancelled. They're saying yeah and it's urging people not to travel to see family. We don't eat meat eat veggies. I don't know what to do gusting. It makes me sick and then diamond of diamond and silk fame said Ed I get tired of people that live their life and have ate meat telling others not to eat meat. Don't tell us what we can and cannot eat if you have a problem with climate change. Stop Driving cars ride on your horse to work you do everything to fix the climate don't infringe upon my right to have Thanksgiving with my family. No one is no one Even fucking mentioned it but this is sort of this is how this whole media operation runs is like okay how do we sort of make ourselves diametrically opposed to our friends and neighbors verse. I mean to play into their narrative if there was one holiday that should go. That's the one on votes thanksgiving. Yeah for so many reasons. Sure sure so I mean right I mean even strictly scheduling wise. No one wants to go home twice in a month. Yes fucking terrible you get in an argument and then finish it on you know we. Bnb We could always just have a new holiday. This called eat food day. Yeah Just disrespectful to millions of people who like you know and then also isn't just like eight. I thought the pilgrims were oocyte air. France was friends with those people they did. You see guys yeah. There resist those paintings of them. Shaking Hands Right. That's really nice. It's weird because I'm you know the other side shows the genocide that happens after but that didn't make it into the Capitol building So even as they go on Fox with all this Tucker Carlson even during his our said you know they're demanding that you cancel Thanksgiving Dinner Okay and cancel. Culture has now turned on this holiday And then on one of the other Fox shows they did it. They had a graphic. That's at war on Thanksgiving. That had like a Turkey Erkki on it and it looks like Toma t os and some other stuff it turns out. It's a fucking stock image of a Mexican dish called Tim Powell. And that's what they use as their representation for the war on Thanksgiving was a Mexican cuisine dish that because the lazy fucking graphics person just was like Turkey roasted there that that's trump promise that Mexico would fight the war on Thanksgiving. Oh yeah and this is where it starts be aware if you see these if he suddenly sees spices on your Turkey or something like that it just odd and infiltrated. Yeah yeah and it goes like every other. There's just it seems seems like this whole warned Thanksgiving thing. Maybe this is. The newest round comes in and out but there have been passed headlines opinion toward Thanksgiving before the war. On Christmas nothing is sacred occurred anymore with the odious joyless also of some on the left they have targeted a beloved holiday when family members travelled together and be with one another a data take stock and be thankful for what you have a day to commemorate day when there was a peaceful friendship between. Pilgrim's an Indian boy by marking it as a reminder of genocide well L.. Let's be real here. Who whose land? Yeah this is my first year. She's a second grade teacher and she's like going going off. Book afraid Thanksgiving Lessons Not really history. She's like everyone. We're reading a people's history of the United States being like what. Here's what agenda is but just like not teaching the fake stuff right right right. And she's like what. If someone gave you blankets. That had smallpox on it. You'd be prepaid would you. Would you be happy about. That'd be mean this is the reason they're protecting. The two is not for family or anything or kneeling thankful. They're definitely not they. Don't give a shit about being thankful. It's it's all because Thanksgiving is the four play to capitalism's fuck fest of the Year of Black Friday. That's that's the whole reason. Why like you? I need all these people you need. The family be together so that the next day after they just like gorge themselves. Mom can drag. Can we just go to fucking sue theirselves buying shit. I think also to like Thanksgiving is like the kickoff dinner to like manifest destiny. Just roll up the fucking continent basically steal everything. It's like I mean this. It was like this is sort of like the the ribbon cutting You know for the rest of it And then just another one. That's an active war on Thanksgiving the newest target of liberal academic activist vist Thanksgiving. Here are the details on the activities of the University of Virginia's Progressive Warriors. And then they go on to do all this shit. Anti Thanksgiving potluck will be chance to discuss Thanksgiving from a native American perspective. Unbelievable God who it is. Yeah anyway so you enough sorry to the Conservatives. Thanksgiving's cancelled all right But I was still needed devastating. I'm still hungry. This made me feel really good because I was. 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Okay listen I was supposed to hit eight by the end of year. Look I hate big business but Some of you know the end of the I tweeted this stupid. The the animals from Zootopia. Yeah I think you said make you horny. I went off script. Yeah I want your words to rabbit sexy. The rabbit is white. So you like Disney deep. You are like doing stuff with your hands. I can feel your wringing my hands pulling at my are at your. Something is active within you the animals frenzy toffee. What is it about Zootopia? I don't know I've only. I know that there's a social message in there. But I'm just there for the Cuban I remember. Maybe the maybe the one for me was Lady more maid Marian from the The one the Fox Robin Robin she was a Fox but she was chased as you were a little veil thoughts also choose also did she have breasts sort of There isn't Vich. There was oh and underneath. I need her gown. She was clearly wearing a bra. Yeah yeah interesting. What was the news again? Yes all right. We got busy tasty analyst. All right horn is Disney L.. Lola Bunny No. That's not Disney Warner brothers. That doesn't work all right. It's only one I have left. Ah for Yeah so. Apparently the projections were eight million by the end of the year. But I think those could change because I'm sure there are plenty of people who are just on that seven day free trial to see the man to Laurean and then they'll figure out if they WANNA stay Laurien is and I don't care it's for it's for Star Wars heads about bounty hunter yeah exactly burner. Hertzog is in it. It is in the simulation is really fucking itself. In new and exciting ways shaded like Jon Fabbro not familiar with the film's His. I'm like okay asshole fucking suit and fucking shoot non on playing ball with the biggest conglomerate in the world. But I'm still punk rock. Hell Yeah Five. Yeah I mean I'm definitely going to binge shot up to my boy Chris who let me Uses log in. See how it works. I'm a little we've talked about this day. But the simpsons being cropped in sixty-nine rubs me the wrong way a little bit but we'll have to see for myself. My cats scared of homeless. Your cat is scared of Homerton. Also breaking news you have a new kitten. I have a cat and mouse scratched. Yes you have sunny when you have sunny the what do you call him like. Alright troll well I mean he's got he's red pill he's act. He's going for men's his rights forever all right because it started with you just showing him youtube videos of other dogs but the algorithm you come home and he's like Acuna Entre knee-deep in my ex Ben Shapiro's there's video so so sunny. I feel like I learned a lot of things with my oldest. Because he's pretty much. I pretty much discounted him of flight. There's no he's not gonna I leave the blue pill out every morning. You never takes it right but this cat you know I mean do better. Cat unnamed flee but if I turned on the simpsons yesterday when I signed up for Disney plus and he kept going out and then like looking at the animation and then running away. Oh No I know he was scared of it. Is it just homer or is it a size aspect ratio. I think that he's GonNa be like eating a different kind of horrible person in from senator really into stuff like this is going to be on letterbox. Yeah yes see films Bro. Yeah to steal book versions yeah. The story wasn't good but the cinematography fucking rule is really. I mean every shot should be in and of itself a breathtaking image shot exactly like Oh and vapes So moving on just as some pop culture stuff I just wanted to point out. Moby was celebrated his thirty two years of being vegan with sick ass tattoos Tap on got animal rights just down his arms like in a really lame. Everything is lame about. He's already got that Vegan for Life Neck Ted to just it reminds me of like a middle schooler. That's just like this one thing about. We think he'd be. You did this to like embarrassing himself with these tattoos because Previously when you search his name it was like Weird Shit with Natalie Portman. I think this is what I didn't know about moby win. That stuff came out was that he was like a terrible addict Back in the day like he was the terrible drunk and like hardcore drugs and stuff but I think mainly alcohol but he. This is totally that person. This is the person that is sober and his life is to do some needs to do something and so they they go for the I mean and also the thing about it. Is that like it. Just it doesn't look. It looks bad and looks like like he the Stencil letters that you get like Michael like how does it look and also the Kat von D.. Like that why would Kevin want credit for that. You know it's funny when you go by her tattoo shop and like there's it's always people talking in there and like Oh man I remember. I remember L. E. A.. Okay the whole thing her make-up's okay And I do WanNa Talk James Little bit about A story that is very relevant to you. The animatronic the band chucky cheese I'm sorry for getting their name wrong. So yeah it's It's Mr Munches. Make believe band Mr Munchies. Make believe Ban Munchies. Munches they re leaving together for forty years. You've had plenty of time to learn their names right. And this is the end so for those. The animatronic band that is inside a many are chucky cheese but has been being phased out for a couple years. Okay so this was actually. This is terrible. News is the worst news of the day and Impeachment so what is happening okay So in two thousand seventeen chucky cheese announced that they are going to slowly start phasing out the animatronic which launched me into to a long investigation of the history of them. which if you haven't educated yourself on what the history of the animatronic band is is pretty wild? There were these Wilde's eighties wars between the two pizza places. showbiz pizza and chucky cheese There there are so many. I'm like I can't wait for the movie of this. You're writing right after Santa University comes out and this is going to really take first position for But it you know it's like the chucky cheese was founded by the founder of Atari and then he creates is this restaurant and then. Oh it's a whole thing. Yeah okay so chucky. Cheese was invented for to have a restaurant to promote Atari Games. Basically the arcade games with. Yeah Yeah and then Their main competition show Biz. Pizza had these amazing animatronic. There were made by this. Like young inventor genius named Aaron Fechter who would like was like one of those classic like good inventor terrible a businessman where he invented wackle and then got swindled by Carney and ended up losing the rights to whack a mole. So you didn't have any money. Then he invented animate like these restaurant dry and macronix and then ended. I mean it just it did haunt children forever. Yeah and he still lives in our lives and works in Orlando and like he's still making stuff but it's like there's this crazy legacy And they're they're finally taken him out if anyone in Zai-qing knows how hi can get one. I will travel hours every sent to my name. I'll started kickstarter on. Give a fuck I like. I WanNa get one of these things but you want the whole band or any of the band. Members have the infrastructure. For for a whole I could. Maybe I could help one thing we could put him in office really At you have to be walked in and now I mean we look we have a gigantic twelve version of the note for Schorr respect popular culture and bring in the whole wasn't Mr Munches make believe me the four members Mr Cheese goes by Mr Chiefs. No well chucky cheese. That's the whole thing. 'cause much like Mr Mucus is he a ton. He used to be a cigar smoking rat and now. He's a mouse WHO SKATEBOARDS OKRA Christ. They've gone species skateboarding now. Yeah and and he's the he's voiced by the lead singer of bowling for soup Yeah okay so there's cheese. There is my personal favorite and and I would prioritize this over the all the others pass Qualley fess qualities the Italian pizza chef. He plays the drums and he does stand up comedy at the laugh. Aronie crony they show videos of it at check he's an easy like a racist caricature of an Italian chef like stash. You like early haircut. Yeah I got some weight theme song. It's time once again for a few jokes resident pizzas. Why squalene Alan? Is this. What you do more jokes from a skill Walli ready to here? We go child when you talk radio in the refrigerator. What do you get up? Yes I Trust was pretty. Good fucking I'll give them quality who else. Yes yes Then there's Helen she's you know she's the girl right The token representation. Hey she's a bird. I remember her kind of invokes. The Burt Birdie from McDonald's land but birdied birdies rip off of Hell and make no no mistake and then there's Jasper jowls. Who is the dog who the cowboy dog as your band? Okay has your band. Maybe now but it has been announced right because 2017. I remember you. I went on a journey because they announced that they're like we're GonNa Start Phasing this whole shit out and then they kinda. It didn't do that or at least in this area. Everything sort of the same. Where if in your area if you're chucky cheese open before two thousand five you probably still have most most of the band and now where we at? Now it's it's been announced this week. I guess they're like okay. We're actually taking them out. But where are they going like. What right right now? But the characters aren't going away they have like they have this whole thing and I think they're like based out of Boston. where they make all these videos? But there with puppets now. They're not with the animatronic. A lot of curse content on us to buy highly recommend there's there's a there's a parody of ice cubes Good Day eh another day. So there's a lot of May is Lee brothers sample. Well Yeah. Yeah but it's clear what they're doing and parodying. The music video is a brand new day in. The Sun is out shop Surgi- chairman everything's Open. Just gotTa see the feeling that it's going to be another. Yeah okay I like this. You know the the legacy lives on Coachella. Oh my yeah they wait. What doesn't chucky cheeses move into the Hologram of thing that's happening now as and everything now turned into like Hologram performances? I wish I feel work. The the animatronic. I guess that they were scaring kids for you for decades for decades. But I I don't know I'm GonNa Miss The animatronic I'm very sad So if you live near a full band go poor went out. You can have up to two blue moon's before they cut you off. Oh really yeah I mean compared to you see a lot of videos appearance fighting chucky cheese. Oh it's one of the most the best places to get someone with another adult who stressed out about their financial situation Mike. Our kids demand presents. I don't don't believe the Shane Dawson stuff. That's what chain Naza made a whole video spreading lies is about chucky cheese are you are you trying to come for Shane. Dawson right now yes. He said that they reheat. Ah Pizza that people leave on. The tape ran reviews. Pathetic if you ask Oh yeah you should go into his restaurant. I yeah where you go. What do you do your pizza? Yeah you living north Hollywood for a while because I remember someone I knew. Some awesome youtuber named Shane. Dawson lives near my mom. I One of the first jobs I ever had in Los Angeles was writing jokes for Shane. Dawson really. This is like a long long long time. There's a twenty ten or something I don't know why you putting everything at risk right now. Talking about gives a fuck. Ah But he he. He lives in the valley he at least at the time with his mom. Dad like seven little fucking dogs. It was insane. Oh I and I remember. His mom was just watching Nancy. Grace on full blast you hear about this Jodi areas like literally knows it was about Casey. Jason is about watching a Lotta dateline recently and just watch the real indepth thing about Jodi. Arias didn't realize I didn't realize we'll go on their thing complicated woman. Yeah yeah very very smart. She's like very cool in those interviews. Here's on this trying to get it anyway. That is. That's about that for us. Allan thank you so much as assigning by. Yeah where can people find you follow you watch you. You have a special coming up. Yeah Watch me. Watch me on November fifteenth of this. I guess this will come by tomorrow. November Fifteenth Eleven Thirty PM ON COMEDY Central Ten thirty Central Yeah watching there at totally al in on everything L. A. L. L. L. E. N.. 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Taylor Behl /// Part 2 /// 397

"Welcome to true crime garage wherever you are whatever you are doing. Thanks for listening. I'm your host Nick with me as always is a man who is that. Twist of lime. You absolutely needed but not necessarily asked for. He is the captain. It's good to be seen and it's good to see you. Thanks for listening. Thanks for telling a friend. Today we are drinking up some blueberry thrill from our friends at Sascha Hana Brewing Company. This radler is zesty. Sweet Bright and refreshing. Ab four point two percent garage grade three and three quarter bottlecaps out of five and this week. We are giving cheers to our good friends here. First UP WE HAVE Catherine in Dallas Texas and the big shots of Vanessa in the party room in parts unknown. Here we go captain. We have a shout out to Fatty Patty in Oviedo Florida and a big shallow to Ashton in Knoxville Tennessee. Next up we have Natalie in Portland Maine and last but certainly not least we have all the in Charlotte North Carolina. Thanks to everyone for contributing to this week Spear Fund. If you want to fill up the beer truck for next week just go to true crime. Garage DOT COM and. Click on the donate button. And if you need more true crime garage I need some more. Let me get through the announcements. Please go download stitcher APP. It's free you can listen to all of our old episodes and if you download stitcher premium app you can get off the record our bonus show and that is enough of the business all right. Everybody gathered around. Grab Chair grab a beer. Let's talk some true crime. So thanks to Taylor Beales online post. Investigators knew that Taylor and Ben Fawley had passed and continue to talk online and possibly even see each other but the more troubling thing. Here captain is Ben. Fawley online claims to be an ex CON which absolutely turns out to be true. So what did this Do Burger do. Well he had some charges for assault and breaking and entering and I think it goes even beyond that one thing that I find. Extra troubling here is statements. We have from some of her friends. The say that Taylor had gotten into this habit of parking her car on Ben Fawley Street on the street that he lived on because there were no parking meters there for her to worry about. So what I'm getting at here with this captain is we have this situation where there seems to be some kind of friendship between the two. It looks to me like Ben. Fawley thinks that it is. The friendship is one thing that it is not and then we also have the situation of heat. He's got a violent past a history of violence and he also probably could know when she's coming and going because he could visually see her vehicle parked on his street. Well yeah and again the ruse of our some photos for you and and we know that he's involved in these odd pornographic sites well in regardless of whatever. Their relationship was or their friendship. I should say friendship because relationship makes it sound like something that was not regardless of what their friendship was. The the thing is her friends that knew about folly. All really say hey. I think she was starting to realize that Ben Folly was more screwed up than she really wanted to deal with but again it appears that they may still have been hanging out. Now when questioned by police about this friendship with Taylor Ben. Fawley said that he had no idea where she was and he was worried about our. He said the last time he saw her was around nine thirty pm on that Monday night when she left his apartment after they he said after they hooked up. Police didn't believe him and fact they named him as one of several persons of interest in the case on October third but the problem was ben folly maintained that he had an alibi before Taylor had even been reported missing. Ben Fawley went to the police station and filed a report alleging that he had been assaulted on the street by several guys. The timeframe he cited for the attack was around five. Am on September six. This occurred in an alley near Franklin Street and Monument Avenue Folly alleged that he was hit with an unknown object in a bag placed over his head and then he was thrown in a car and driven around by several men before being released on a dirt road and he had to hitch a ride home and they do have evidence of this. We have the person that he hits ride from saying. You know cooperating. The story to eat markings on his individual. Well so police looked carefully at this claim. Trying to determine like you said captain whether this was true or not the problem is if it is true that it seems very likely that folly could not have been responsible for abducting Taylor folly filed this report around four. Pm on Tuesday. He made vague references to the attack. Likely being a result of a long running altercation with with an axe or another photographer over rights to some photographs which seems a little loosey. Goosey to me while you know those photographers they like to. There are bad bunch they they they have a gang of people. And they're gonNA abduct you place a bag over your head and hit you with objects. The police officer whose name appears on the incident report did note that folly admitted that he was extremely. He says he was extremely intoxicated. When the alleged attack took place he also said that he took medication for bipolar disorder. Now Okay and let's let's dive into that real quick because most of the the medication that you would be on for bipolar or not things that you would one want to drink on but they could also cause you death if you do drink on those medications again though you are. A- level individual who makes good decisions. We once again find ourselves discussing a guy who does not make good decisions. I would be taken this Report as officer and when I would say officer's name I'd put silly goose so the thing that I have trouble with here I don't know really why this would be considered any type of alibi because folly says it. He lasts all Taylor if we are to believe him at nine thirty PM and then maintain that the attack happened at five. Am right hours hours later. Seems to me like you had plenty of time to a doctor kill or do whatever during that that timeframe bought and we have footage of her leaving her dorm but they're going to find footage of him outside her dorm room Yeah so but again. He's not denying that they hung out that night. Well and the thing is I think what we have here is really kind of front. A bit of a tactic by police. We saw how smart they were with the vehicle situation. Valence vehicle. Yeah I think they thought. Hey this Ben Fawley. He's pretty dumb. He's pretty stupid. We had a meeting all right all of us. Investigators and police officers we got together and we took a vote and we decided this guy's a real idiot. So here's how the meeting went a raise your hand if you think this guy is a dumb ass and nineteen hands went up and then one guy was just kind of sitting there playing on his phone he he wasn't paying attention now. One Guy was one guy was like but I really like his van. I saw it on the news. Pretty Cool So I think they all kind of agreed. This guy's an idiot and they're like publicly let's go out and say hey we we understand. He's somebody that we're interested in. We understand that there was some kind of friendship going on. But we have to clear we have to figure this whole. He was allegedly attacked situation. Out We have to figure out if he actually has an alibi or not make him think that you're kind of falling for right And see if he does something dumb because this guy has nothing but a history of thirty some years of doing dumb things. So he may. He may give you whatever you need. He may give you that smoking gun so you can figure out what he is actually been up to because even though we have them on record saying that. I don't believe that they were falling for anything that he was saying. And I also like you said. Where's the evidence of this do? Where's the person that gave you the ride home yet? I'm trying to see where you're going with this guy and my timeline. I know what cops do next but I'm wondering if I'm missing something. Well I really think that it was just a to me. It looks just like a front that they were putting on at the time. I think behind closed doors. They didn't think anything of this alleged attack other than it was a false alibi that it was something that he created to explain away a big window of time that he needs to be accounted for What seems like our thoughts about their investigation. Captain are correct. I mean they seem to be suspicious folly and this did not come out until later but what we do know took place that police did review that security cameras surveillance footage from Taylor's dorm on the last night that she was seeing and asked said she seen entering the building around ten twenty pm. She walks through the lobby to the doors on the right hand side of the frame presumably to head up to her room but someone else then enters the lobby at ten twenty one and paces around for a few minutes clearly waiting for someone. And who is this person? Data Ben Fawley Boehner sniffer so his statement of Hey. I last saw her in the nine o'clock hour can't be true. You followed her in. We have video surveillance footage of you following her into the lobby of her residence at ten. Twenty in the ten o'clock hour right in that she's GonNa come back out to hang out with them so again we know he's lying about the timeframe or dismiss remembering but it's almost like he knew that he was caught on tape so he has to omit that he was hanging out with her that night. I don't understand this whole I was attacked and that set in alibi but the timeframe would be early morning hours and not around that ten PM to twelve PM window but I think where he really messed up is when he was telling the cops well and we hooked up that night. Now we have her friends saying yes. They were intimate before but she didn't want to do that again. That's not to say that she wouldn't of been intimate with them again. I mean we. We have proof that she was intimate with him before so I would actually argue that that would mean there's more of a possibility just because she told her friends that she didn't want to do it again but that leads to please to go. Well she's seventeen and this is going to be enough for us to get a search warrant to search his apartment while you are exactly right because what's going on here. I believe re reading between the lines. I think that police had an idea that folly was with her at a time that he did not give to them. I think they knew that for a while I think there are. They are trying to figure out what else was he involved in and I also think that just because they didn't ask him about that ten o'clock hour he may be unaware of the security camera footage that he was seen on camera. They were seen on camera together at ten twenty four and then they both leave their joint. Departure is not actually caught on camera but neither of them are seen on camera again so we can assume that they left together while here. Here's why say not? Not Maybe the footage that the cops actually had. But here's this guy that's been around campus long enough to know. The campus is heavily secure. There's tons of security cameras everywhere so knowing that you met her on campus you could just assume that at some point they have you on video foot bright and maybe nine thirty thing is it his way of trying to explain that away right but also by sane knowing that you met her on campus. This is why you have to tell the police while I was with her that night for a little bit we hooked up and then she left and I don't know what happened to her. So the security surveillance footage plus the fact that he willingly tells police we hooked up. She's underage. This is enough to allow officers to obtain a search warrant for Ben Follies apartment which was located at four zero seven Hancock Street on September sixteenth. They went in and searched this apartment and the search warrant. Must have included. You know you have to specifically state what you are seeking in this war. A must've included electronic devices. Because we know that police left carrying some computers after this I search and what they found on those computers lead to the arrest of Ben Fawley on September. Twenty third. Captain would you like to do the honors and inform us as to what was found on these computers? Well what's interesting is. I don't think it's just on the computers. I think maybe also on diskin things like that. There was a lot of child pornography. He tries to explain that away by Saint. Some of this was laughed by the tenant before me. I didn't even know it was there. But that connects plane away the child pornography that was actually found on the hard drives and they had multiple computers with extremely large amounts of hard drive space. I mean especially for that time. Two thousand five. That's right there so there wasn't really anything on the computers linking folly directly to Taylor's disappearance although there were those pictures of her that we discussed hundreds of pictures of her yeah and hundreds of pictures of images of child pornography. Well on not just what bribed but the media release. Yeah I mean not just that but also just tons of Berry. I don't know what the creek term would be. You have pornography and then you have this more like this demotic pornography. Okay so this next bits going to the next ninety seconds might get a little difficult to listen to. But here's what I have in my notes. Okay so police said they discovered a massive quote a massive amount of extremely graphic child pornography featuring children as young as three and four years old being raped by some reports as many as seven computers loaded with pornography were confiscated from the apartment according to the Richmond Times dispatch senior assistant. Commonwealth's Attorney Mike Jag oils. Later told judge Kimberly O'Donnell that there were as many as thirty movie files discovered on computers. That were removed from follies apartment. Some depicting acts with minors as young as one. This is this just tough to even read minors young as one or two years old and others featuring individuals ten to fourteen years old folly of course maintain that the computers were not his as you pointed out. He says they belong to a former resident of the apartment. No one was buying this load crap that he was trying to shovel Robert. This just proves how this guy's story changes constantly. He's always has some excuse for things and so that's when you really know that. Most likely whatever happened to her was at the hands of this individual so like we said this results in his arrest and also results in a second more comprehensive search of his apartment while that. But here's what's Great. We can put him in for these charges and then because of these charges we can go back and look for more evidence we can build our case and know exactly where he is and hold him and he can't do anything to get rid of evidence in the process so the things that they were looking for in the second search many of the items that were listed on the search warrant included things that would belong to Taylor. You know her clothing her her jeans. Black Hoodie sneakers. Black Watch bracelets Saint Francis Necklace student. Id Nokia Cell Phone and car keys. All of that's listed on the war also listed. Were skateboards sometimes. You WanNa put a generic term out there so you can take any skateboard that you find burglary tools. This would probably go back to his previous convictions. There are also looking for knives hammers shovels and pry bars. And then I found this to be strangers. Always something strange listed on these search warrants on here we have the ever suspicious pepperidge farm cookie boxes but yeah I couldn't figure out I have no idea why this would be on the warrant. The cops were hungry. I don't know if they had reason to believe that she would have had one of these cookie boxes in her possession at the time that she went missing and maybe that then they can go. Okay is it might be coincidence. But it also might be a sign that she was here right later that night. I don't have a complete look. Incomplete list of what was found in the apartment. But here's what we do know was taken out of the house. Pursuant to the search warrants women's white underwear a laptop computer a Macintosh computer a digital camera sex toys including dildos and spiked bracelets a knife. Two bags of clothes from a garbage can outside of the house a beaded necklace with a cross from this was removed from the garbage as well. A bicycle chain necklace. A watch from the garbage can a thirty five millimeter camera. A box containing bones. He collected weird things like that where everybody has a right to have weird shit. Oh Yeah Yeah we we we. We all probably own some weird shit rolls of film. I mean we probably don't have a bunch of dildos lane around A black brawl a machete. Cigarette BUTTS A prescription bottle skateboards they did find skateboards yearbook a hatchet. A hammer a pry bar a thirty two caliber cartridge and a partridge in a pear tree. I mean it just goes on and on and on the one thing. That was rather interesting of note here captain. Police also removed a section from a box spring that was stained with some kind of Reddish Brown substance they did include and executed a warrant for follies hair and DNA samples. Not Found Taylor cell phone that they were looking for her college. Id Her car keys again. Anything linking Fawley Ben Fawley directly to Taylor's disappearance does not seem to have been found just on the child porn possession alone police had enough to charge folly with a felony. And as you said hold him while they continue to build a case against him regarding Taylor's disappearance and they also charged him with a possession of a firearm because remember he's a convicted felon. He's not legally permitted to be in possession of a gun but the their investigation takes pretty interesting. Turn as far as because you you collected all the stuff but but where do you go from that? I mean that none of this other than the child porn pornography. Can you charge him with or like you said the the gun possession charged so you can add that on top of things but well. They're going to go to the public for help okay. Because on October eleventh police announced that they were specifically interested in the sightings of the following items between the dates of September fifth and September seventeenth. They WANNA know. Had anybody seen a white Ford escort? That's remember that's the vehicle. Virginia License Plate J. P. C. Twenty eight forty eight and they asked the public to call in sightings of the vehicle and a description of whomever may have been driving the vehicle at the time. They wanted to know who had been driving. Taylor's car around Richmond. During that time that they can't figure out where it was they also wanted people to report any sightings of of Virginia personalized license plates G. R. N. E. R. T. age. This was a plate stolen from a vehicle around the time Taylor disappeared and police believed it might have been in follies possession and they also sought information about that. Ohio state license plate as well right. So what's interesting to me is while they need the public's help it seems like they have a general idea of what was going on. At the time he abducted he did something to Taylor and was moving her vehicle round during the time that it was unaccounted for and he may have been switching out the plates multiple times along the way right. Because if you know this girl's missing you you see work kind of car. She has. How many people saw that car looked at the license plates and went while? That's not her car. Yeah yeah it also came out around the same time? The media reported that folly used his credit card to buy gas in new Kent County between Mathews County and Richmond on the night. That Taylor disappeared. So this really kind of to me would suggest that his later claimed that he was attacked. There doesn't seem to be any time left for that to actually have taken place. It's the old jussie. Smollet jumped farce. We got going on there. Meanwhile Taylor's family lawyer cleaned out Taylor's dorm room taking all of her possessions back to her hometown of Vienna and they stayed at Taylor's family basically stated even if she is found alive she's not going to be returning to vcu at this time. There's too much going on here and 'cause at this point you have to believe that she's -ducted and so if you do find her alive. There's no way that you're GonNa want her parents for her to be around that facility to have any of those bad memories well. Things are looking very very bleak by this time and now they're really honing in on folly and he's locked up and they can start. They WanNa start going through his social circles. Now we're going to publicly asked the public for help but we're going to get into his social circles and ask these people for help and one of the people that they come across. Is this young woman named Aaron who was also a VC use student and somewhat of a friend or acquaintance of Taylor's an oddly kind of looks like she could be related to tailor definitely. Looks like Taylor's mother like there's a lot of similarities there and she's a little older than Taylor She's twenty three at the time. Apparently she dated Ben Fawley for some time. I guess they only dated for a couple of months before Aaron broke up with him and she. She probably didn't WanNa come forward because of such an embarrassment that she dated this Douche in the first place well I think she was the one that the charges some of his previous convictions stemmed from so well. He had a history of these girls after a while. Yeah but oddly he would. He would start dating them and because let me take pictures of you. You're so beautiful. And he would make these girls feel like they're the best thing in the world but then that became all well now. I'm jealous of everybody else and I just love you so much. I'm jealous of everybody else and then become aggressive almost like self sabotaging the relationship like well. And here's the thing to captain going on. Now we've seen a lot of these types of cases anytime. Detectives think that we have somebody who needs to hide something that they never ever want anyone to find they start asking the people that know them best. Okay is there anywhere that he liked to camp or go fishing or go hunting. You know outdoor activities. What does he do and where does he go? They start talking to Aaron. They start showing her picture after picture from his. Pho- photography webpage because they need her to identify some of these locations. Here's picture tell us where you think this area is? Yeah who take pictures of girls and things like that but would also take pictures of old rundown sheds and you know just fields in in random items and locations so one photo that caught her eye. You know she's looking at photo after photo. Finally she sees one and she's like Holy Moly. This might be something here. This is a photo of an old abandoned house with like a Tin Lean to attached to it. The House was oddly enough located on her family farm. Which was about ninety miles away from Richmond in Mathews County right and I think he. She took there at some point. Maybe they've been shot. Shot those photos together well and remember we talked about folly purchasing gas with his credit card right out that night now all of a sudden this photo of an old abandoned house ninety miles away out in the middle of nowhere seems very important for all of our sakes. We need to avoid crowds any way we can right now. But what if you need to go to the post office? What if you need postage to send out letters and don't worry? Stamps DOT COM is here to help with stamp dot com. You can print postage on demand and skip those lines and crowds at the post office. You personally print official. 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Thank you for telling a friend about our little garage show to thanks for your friends not to listen to and thank you to you captain and they and they thank you and thank you to our friends that listen all right. We might have might have had a few too many now. I love you man on October up right on October. Fifth Police headed out to the site. Where that photo was taken this accompanied by Aaron? They photo. Yeah and they're going to be searching this whole area and before too long. They identified a body any plastic bag in a ditch off the side of a wooded road. The remains were very decomposed but were wearing clothing. That was similar to what Taylor was wearing when she disappeared. Sure enough. The medical examiner soon identified the remains as Taylor beale based on dental records. One thing about this girl. That's helping out the police. There she goes out to our family's property. She doesn't know what she's GonNa find. They've they've find Taylor she that has thing about the relationship she had with this person. And how that possibly could have been her that'd be very traumatic experience. There are several theories as to why this area may have been chosen for the the dump site. The seem a little odd. Who knows what was going on in the mind of the person who placed her there so there. There's one theory that I do find this interesting. I don't think it has anything really to do with the case. But there's a thought that maybe Ben Fawley thought if he put her on errands family's property that maybe it would get confusing to investigators in Aaron. Could somehow be involved in Taylor's disappearance possibly we. We know he lies about everything. I think what likely happened is this is just unfortunately a place of popped into his mind when he thought of like we said earlier. Hey I got something. I don't want anybody to ever find and he thought this was a good place to put it well. They're going to go back with this information. This is basically now the cops have a loaded gun that they component him and he's going to start confessing to what he claims happened that night. Yeah and one thing that they will be equipped with when they go in to talk with. Fawley is they took some soil samples from the undercarriage of Taylor's vehicle and they were able to match those two soil samples taken from the area where the body was found so they are able to piece a lot of this together before they even talked to them. They where she was found. They have a general idea what happened to her being that she was either abducted or killed and then transported in her own vehicle out to that location and then we know the vehicle came back to the vcu campus area and was was placed there now or died in a manner that did not leave visible marks on her body so they were unable to determine the exact cause of death. There was no broken bones or obvious signs of death. Now Mind you. She rather decomposed at this time. Folly continued to deny that he had anything to do with this. But that's not going to last very long captain just like you pointed out because he will he will offer up some kind of confession well of sorts and this was against the recommendation of his attorney folly told investigators that on the night of September fifth. He and Taylor had driven out to a beach in the Mathews County area to Hook Up. He said he was very drunk and high at the time and was off his meds the two engaged in what he called rough sex and he said Taylor accidentally died according to him. The two had played a sex game and it was all Taylor's idea she wanted to try Roddick But backfired and when she died he panicked and dumped her body in that ravine although he tried to spin this off as some type of accident folly himself may have made mention of what he planned to do to Taylor in one journal entry by Skulls Sixty Seven and eight journal subtitled playing with fire. The trash of a crazy ex-con he wrote about his sexual conquests with partners referred to by their initials like an e. He also talked about someone with the initials. T and said that there was something he still wanted to try with her. This was before Taylor died. Taylor's mother was quick to dispute follies version of the events. Of course she says. Let's be clear. Ben Fawley murdered my daughter. She said in a news conference. His claim that it was accidental is just one more perversion of the truth and his changing web of allies that he claims that there they went out to this location. They're trying to hook up there in the back seat of the car that he was drunk in high in an office medication all that stuff they were trying to put a bag over her head during sex. That wasn't really working. 'cause she wanted a pass out this what he's claiming and so then. He took the bag off her head but then put it around her nose and mouth now once she stopped breathing. Here's a strange thing. As during his confession he doesn't dump the body that night doesn't he doesn't just go all. I got to get rid of her and take the car back. He claims that he comes back to Vcu with her body in the back seat and and that the cars parked there for a day or so then he drives back out to that. Same location than than than dumpster there But again this guy will lie about everything. Yeah and as you pointed out earlier. His story changes win. It needs to. He has an excuse. He has a story. He has an alibi until boom. You present them with facts with truthful evidence and facts that you know to be true and then he says well. Here's a different story for you. Bobby here's the thing. Though is he already has more and more charges. That are mounting against him. Yeah and what's difficult? Though for the Prosecution for the state captain is that we do have this while it does not seem likely it is a plausible defense of this was an accident and maybe he shouldn't be charged with murder. We also have the problem that we really have very little forensic evidence in this case at all So it's going to take a good amount of time. In fact it was not until January. Seventeenth of two thousand and six then a grand jury handed down an indictment of folly. This was for first degree murder. I would love. I would love to try this case. Once the Grand jury was told it was explained that the medical examiner could not have identified an exact cause of death because of the decomposition. Then we have an indictment that was amended to second degree murder. The death penalty obviously going to be off the table at this point now despite holes in their case prosecutors went full steam ahead preparing for a trial working with investigators. Trying build a circumstantial case to prove that Taylor was not the initiator of this so called sex game that she was not bondage or erotic fixation or really would not have consented to any of this crap and that that folly killed her and probably deliberately killed her. It was not an accident by any stretch of the imagination on his defense team saying well she was she wanted to try this because he had tons of pornography on his computer and showed her some different things and choose like. Aw like to try that yeah. That's what he claims but but it doesn't matter I mean the the idea that that Anybody female or male would be on trial for wanting to try something sexually sh. That's her right to that. Doesn't equal being murdered right? You know so. It doesn't matter how you slice. It doesn't matter if it was his idea or her idea. That does that should never equal murder. So what we have here. Captain is in August of two thousand six. The murder trial is about to begin. But what we get I man I so love this. We get a gift for the prosecution because folly opens his big mouth. That's right folly. Made the mistake of talking in his defense attorneys. Got Wind of this and a jailhouse conversation with an officer folly describing on set it up a little bit better because he is coming back to his cell. After after this There was a meeting And and basically this. This web allies that he's been casting. He claims that it's the ultimate chess. Move Right he says he's playing a chess game and really this story that he came up about Taylor's accidental. Death was really just that just a story designed to clear him to take the heat off of him. Explain away what happened. But it's not what actually happened and then we have a little bit more. Holy Okay because you you know this better than me. This is the part. That's kind of confused me because he makes a mission to This officer and then officer. Let's the defense team. No now they can't they can't represent that idea because they know it's a lie that right. No I think the thought here is. We have people that are going to testify that he was lying about the story right and and then we have this weird thing where he's writing letters from jail to a female friend. The prosecution gets a hold of these letters. They did not help follies case. I don't know exactly what was in these letters. But these were mentioned during this portion of the story. And what this leads to is by August ninth. We have folly consulting with his attorneys and they decide that folly should take an Alfred play for second degree murder and exchange for prosecutors dropping the child pornography charges out at the plea proceedings prosecutors and defense attorneys. Were able to present their cases to the judge whose job it is then to determine whether there was enough evidence to warrant folly taking such a plea the confession. His tapes of his confession or so-called confession were played in court and later transcripts were released to the media. More details about this confession came out and you went through quite a bit of that when you were telling us about what happened. One thing I've found weird was its sites that Taylor wanted to play a game that she called drunk monkey and again. It's it's almost. It seems a little silly to go through this confession when we know so much of it is just completely false and we can. We can say that based off of his plea off of his later plea where he accepts that he's going to be convicted of this. Yeah I mean and again I have some questions but I don't think it matters like what she alive when they went out to this location. I don't know did he. Did he bring did he? Actually bring the body back to bring Taylor back You know I don't think it matters. I think at the end of the day no matter what he states everything else again. He can still say he's still saying in prison. I'm not the cause of her death. She wanted to try something. It was an accident while we know that you told people. Hey I'm a genius. I came up with this excuse but everything else points to murder right this this happens. She blacks out. She stops breathing. You don't call nine one one. You then claim that you transport her body back to camp campus. Not Telling Anybody Die. Equals murder you then changed license plates. Multiple Times on that car that equals murder. You then lie to the cops about what happened. That equals murder. You then lie to everybody and tell her family almost braggadocious way while we hooked up that night. No you did it. You probably raped her. That equals murder you then constantly lie about everything and all these twists and turns and take not only the please but the family members of your victim on this wild ride. All that stuff equals murder and then you put her out in the middle of nowhere and her in. This is what her mom says for her body to be eaten by animals and bugs and insects. 'cause you don't have respect for human life you have respect for this young lady. This was not your friend because all that stuff equals murder while and unfortunately it seems like four Ben Fawley well for those around him anyway that he was ramping up to something like this probably for quite some time. Now I don't have those all those letters that he wrote to his friend while he's in jail but when hold on. First Ladies get better friends you who whose who. Who's the person communicating with this fuck? You know well. We do have a portion of one of those letters and this is going to be. What really is going to seal the deal here. And they read this allowed in the The plea proceedings. I believe that all of them all of these letters were read but the one that made its way to the media is this and this is directly from follies written letter to his friend. He says quote people don't like me they never do as a child. I had no friends. I was a bother in the way a problem so I spent most of my life alone. I never liked the thoughts in my head. People are right. Something's wrong with me. All the thoughts of killing and death in my head and now it's true. I've killed someone. These are his own words at the conclusion of the Alford Plea Hearing Judge William Shaw. The third found that there was substantial evidence that folly was guilty of murdering Taylor. Beal he sends folly to forty years with ten years suspended. Folly would serve thirty years. Taylor Beales case is famous because it is one of the first to be solved using the victims social media. Police were able to narrow down the suspect list very quickly because of her postings online Taylor funeral was held the day after her eighteenth birthday. Benjamin Fawley is scheduled to be released on November fourteenth. Two Thousand and thirty one. Let's just too soon. Janet Taylor's mother has published a book called Love. You more Taylor beale story and has become an outspoken advocate for victims. Taylor's friend Aaron Kraybill received a twenty thousand dollar reward for her assistance in locating Taylor with some of the reward money. She established a fund for Women in crisis. In honor of Taylor Bill. All right. Thanks for joining us here in the garage. Nick do we have any recommended reading. Yes we do my fine captain. This week we are recommending without a prayer by Susan. Ashland this is without a prayer the death of Lucas Leonard and how one church became a cult. You'll want to pick up this book because this is a very tragic and weird case and if you pick up without a prayer you're gonNA find out the how but also the why and you don't have to write that title down right now you can just go to true crime garage dot Com and. 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Ep. 113 - Bill MF'n Taylor

The Breakdown with Shaun King

22:23 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 113 - Bill MF'n Taylor

"I'm talking about a very specific Bill Taylor Ambassador Bill Taylor. He testified before Congress yesterday he's actually have you heard the name Bill Taylor Bill Taylor every town probably has a bill Taylor being one negative thing to say about embassador Bill Taylor he has served in both Republican and democratic presidencies own more in the country that they are an ambassador with than they are here in the United States I think American diplomat and in some ways that's by design we can name Cabinet members we can name personal friends of both Democrats and Republicans defend him they know him he he is around in their private circles many people know the Vietnam War in every sense then has been a career diplomat and public servant he does have I have to say an impeccable reputation combat leaders normally operate in the shadows their their job is not necessarily to be public to us they may be known I'm sitting here now trying to dumb racking my brain trying to think of just one diplomat and I don't know that I can name a single the Ukraine and multiple congresspeople said after Bill Taylor testified for ten hours and closed hearings yesterday but it was the single most going to become a household name not because he was a particularly special ambassador to Ukraine and that's not me knocking him can you name one single American diplomat past or present it doesn't even have to be just in the trump administration initial administrations we can name allies and supporters and Congress people and people in the House and Senate and all of those things but mm-hmm he's a lifelong public servant going all the way back to the seventy s he fought like many of your family's he fought it it appears that he was actually I appointed as an ambassador by George Bush and then was appointed again as an ambassador Taylor said because I believe he's GonNa become a household name this is Shaun King you're listening to the the breakdown acid bill Taylor is going to be the exception to that rule I believe he'll become here in the days and weeks and months ahead I believe ambassador Bill Taylor not by the Obama Administration but by the trump administration he's their ambassador yesterday he was going to voluntarily personally have had personal meetings personal dinners personal relationships with him and you're GonNa have a hard time finding you will struggle to find one person to say a crossword about him before his testimony yesterday actually saw appear in a private congressional hearing during the impeachment inquiry but the trump administration as you may be Hamming Day ever for Donald Trump and one congressperson even said it was the most shocking day of their time in Congress I want to unpack and explain what bill in the breakdown of a breakdown impeachment inquiry even though they have been subpoenaed to do so they are literally ignoring the congressional subpoena which is on her that none of their administration nobody not a single person participate in this impeachment inquiry and as you may have seen multiple member hopes to have a life in a career after the trump administration so he responded to the Congressional Oh request at first that he appear before Congress then the trump administration began demanding that he not testify which is there's of the trump administration including trump his family personal friends attorneys and others are actually refusing to participate in this remember in and it's wild that this is just a footnote in what I'm about to tell you the trump administration is now demanding word of ambassador Bill Taylor decided not to play that game again this is a man who's worked in government is entire life and plans to vigorously demand that very particular people not testify before Congress it raises suspicion is obstruction of justice and not only is it obstruction of justice how damn suspicious is it for you Republicans in Congress for about ten hours yesterday now he brought a fifteen page prepared because some of what he talked about could not be said publicly but he testified in a closed hearing before Democrats statement and that statement was given to the media and it was the single most so just in case Bill Taylor was going to refuse the request of Congress they did issue a legal subpoena but he damning statement I think against Donald Trump even right up there with the anything in the mother report whatsoever because Bill Taylor being a career diplomat a career public servant understood the power of note taking under he either heard directly or was told directly that the trump administration was telling showed up anyway and we're not clear if you would have testified though after the trump administration all day yesterday warning tried to get him not to testify but after the subpoena he did and he testified in a closed hearing that that is every single thing he said and what he said was this was that not once not twice but over and over again the United States Congress in a bipartisan vote House and Senate passed an emergency aid aid package to Ukraine to help their government as they fight off Russian interference with their the power of records and text messages and emails and had copious notes and source documents to backup among its own government to withhold aid to Ukraine now let me pause there and give a quick explainer boarders with their the sovereign nation and many people believe that if the United States was not providing this take over the entire government that they would absorb Ukraine into Russia that Ukraine could literally cease to exist without aid that Russia would literally bulldoze all of the borders with Ukraine and potentially very literally just massive funding from the United States government. I did not understand really until the past few years when I started studying government budget Donald Trump's arguably one of Donald Trump's chief political rivals now we are fully aware it's how much money into the multiple billions and billions of dollars the United States government gives other countries to who run their own military operations I won't linger there but Bill Taylor said this over and over and over again in his statement and according to people who were in the room other Congress people who were there for his testimony that the trump administration even after a an aid package was approved by Congress began asking the Secretary of Treasury and other members of their demanding that the president of that country literally get on a microphone to say that they were investigating Joe Biden to Ukraine and to the president of that country literally Bill Taylor said this that Donald Trump was administration to not give that a which they don't have the power to do the the aid was already approved to not give that aid that Donald Trump does not have a heart for rooting out corruption he wasn't saying hey anka's happening but there is no evidence of what they call a quid pro quo that there was no deal the single most damning day for Donald Trump during the entire impeachment inquiry one congressman even said was widely known in his private circles that that's what was going on it was according to Multiple Congress people it was probably the most shocking day of his time in Congress to see the abuse of power to see net there's no evidence of

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Mike Pompeos State Department

Article II: Inside Impeachment

22:14 min | 10 months ago

Mike Pompeos State Department

"From NBC News. This is article two inside impeachment. I'm Steve Cranky. Today is Monday November twenty fifth. And and. Here's what's happening so we're getting a little bit of new information now about Secretary of state. Mike pompeo's role in this whole Ukraine controversy secretary of State. Mike Pompeo has spent most of the fall avoiding scrutiny over his role in the Ukraine scandal. But then witnesses from the State Department began to testify against Pompeo's orders and what they told old. Congress put Pompeo closer and closer to the events around the impeachment inquiry Secretary Pompeo essentially gave me the green light to brief presidents Alinsky Alinsky about making those announcements just last week in his televised. Hearing Gordon Sunland the ambassador to the European Union directly implicated the secretary theory of state and based on the context of that email. This was not the first time you had discussed these investigations with Secretary Pompeo. Now he was aware of the connections connections that you're making between the investigations and the White House meeting and security assistance. Yes did he ever take issue with you and say no. That connection is not there or you're wrong. It's not that I recall. Mike Pompeo was supposed to fix the State Department. After former secretary rex. Tillerson was fired last year now though he is a figure in the impeachment inquiry today an article too. We are asking what went wrong. Dan Dan Lewis is a national security and global affairs reporter for the Investigative Unit at NBC News and he joins us now. Dan thanks for being with us. Thank you so. Let's let's start at the beginning when it comes to. Mike Pompeo in reminded us. I think a very basic question here but how he even got to this position to the position of secretary state in the first place because I I can remember trump. I got elected in two thousand sixteen. There was that meeting with Mitt Romney. There was all the talk. Romney would become his secretary of state. That didn't work out then. It became REX Tillerson. He was the secretary's Day where and how did pump peyot into the picture as secretary of state so he was a conservative From Kansas Kansas Congressman. Who really really was not a national figure per se? He made a name for himself. During the Benghazi Congressional inquiry that targeted Then Secretary of State Hillary the Clinton he was picked to be director when trump entered the White House and he really hit it off with trump. He he developed a report by all accounts he would come in and do the intelligence briefing himself personally everyday and so out of all the cabinet members he started really kind of getting an inside track with the president and and their conversations would go beyond intelligence briefing. They would discuss other things. So pompeo had started developing some influence and report there and when president trump became very dissatisfied with rex Tillerson Secretary of state he turned to Palm Pale to give up his job at CIA to take over over at the State Department and it went. Well initially take this back to that that moment and the the context there because you mentioned rex tillerson was pushed. I think he was fired. In a tweet. By president trump there were all sorts of reports about a comments. Tillerson may have been making behind closed doors about trump. Trump certainly didn't seem a a fond of tillerson. What was the condition of the State Department? And when you say Pompeo got off to a good star wh what did that look like well really. It was really because he was just a new face at that point tillerson kind of had a double whammy working against him so on the one hand he was clashing with the president over policy. So you had a dynamic where Tillerson and then Defense Secretary General Mattis were very much aligned on issues and they were trying to often offense tear the president away from what they felt were some bad decisions or bad inclinations So trump was getting frustrated with him in that sense and then the other side of this was in the building among the career diplomats tillerson had alienated himself because he went in there and said okay. I'm going to reorganize Eisman redesign the State Department. And he brought in non-career people and had a small tight circle and the feeling was he wasn't speaking to the career diplomats in the building very very much and then he made some some administrative management decisions. That were extremely unpopular. There was a program that allows diplomats spouses to work. Under certain circumstances the diplomats assigned to various places overseas. He put a freeze on hiring generally and froze this program that it allowed spouses to work and it just angered people tremendously on top of everything else. So palmdale has some sense of leadership in knows that Morale House low and he does a few things very quickly including undoing this freeze on allowing spouses to work and that goes over well and he commits to making more appointments. They're all these vacancies. All these nominations. That weren't weren't going forward. And he pledged move on that and then of course the State Department employees were glad that he had a report with the president because every foreign service officer once the State Department to have you know weight and influence with the with the president whoever the president is so he did get off a certain positive start and there was some relief in the building went went tillerson left. He comes in there are some goodwill it sounds like among State Department folks fast forward than in more than a year later the whistle blower Allegations come out this summer when this story broke what did we know then. Then what did we think then about what. Mike pompeo's role was in that it was a big question and he got asked pretty early on. There is a pretty interesting interesting Moment when he's on. ABC With Martha Raddatz on a Sunday in on September. Twenty second and he's asked About the phone call and I asked you. Do you think it's a good idea for a president to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political opponent and he is evasive. You've what do you know about those conversations. So you just gave me a report about IC campaign none of which. I've saying he doesn't say that he didn't know about the phone call but he doesn't acknowledge what we learned later. which was that? He was listening in on on the phone call between president trump and Zielinski so he got a lot of scrutiny after that and criticism that he was being cagey so what was happening was at the beginning. There was a question. What did pongpayome no? When did he know it? What was his role with the opposing? This was encouraging this and so the the first answer should we get a non answer is is evasion and then the second piece of information we get is actually he was on the call as it was on. The phone call was on the phone. Call the phone on call was in the context of now been secretary of state for Coming on a year and a half I know precisely what the American policy is with respect to you crank frank. It's been remarkably consistent and we will continue to try to drive those set of outcomes so he was on the call then we have the public hearings the last couple of weeks. Several interesting items emerged from that. The biggest one will start on that Gordon Sunland says is that Pompeo was quote in the loop when it came to all of this. What did we learn from? Someone's testimony from the others when it comes to that question of Pompeo in being in the loop nope on what sunland say was a quid pro quo. That's right Sunlen. Testimony does not help Mike Pompeo's case because he says everyone's the loop August eleventh and this is critical. I sent an email to counselor brek. Bull and Lisa Kenna with the subject Hugh Crain I wrote Mike Referring to Mike Pompeo Kurt and I negotiated a statement from Zielinski Alinsky to be delivered for our review in a day or two the contents will hopefully make the boss happy enough. The boss is being the president to authorize an invitation. Miss I replied Gordon. I'll pass to the secretary. Thank you again. Everyone was in the loop and that phrase included Pompeo and he made it very clear that compel was being communicated with and was aware of what they were doing what the president wanted them to do. It came to prodding and pushing the new president Ukraine to conduct investigations. That would be a personal benefit to trump's political future so pompeo comes out of the some testimony Not Very well so so so Dan. What is what is pump? Answer for all this said it. Does he have a does he have a defense that he's offering. Has he said anything about this. That's a really good question in the end. We never really have heard a definitive answer. He continues to basically change the subject when he gets asked about this and he just it kind of dismisses the whole inquiry as deeply partisan Democrat which aren't and he is not explained what his view of this was in other words. You Know He. He hasn't come out and said this was was was a bad idea and I opposed it but the president overruled me. He hasn't said that nor is he said I supported this it for these reasons and this is why I did what I did. I said what I said. So what we're left with is the testimony of salmon and other witnesses assist were left with the phone call that we've all seen that he was in on and we're left with a key fact which is ambassador. Yvonna Vich is removed from her job. And that's a decision for pump Pale and he's been asked about this. Specifically Ivanovich was on the hill and Friday. The president made a tweet disappearing saying that everything everywhere that she went in bed is an assessment that you agree with. You've known her. I don't have anything to sell for the White House about a particular statements and the like I don't have anything else to say about the Democrats proceedings if somebody else has basically doesn't really directly answer the question right. That's I think the other major issue hugh that emerged from these hearings in. That was as you say. These ambassadors are part of the State Department. The Secretary of state at least in theory has their back in public. This was not the case with POMPEII. When you von Vich has that affected pompeo standing with the other ambassadors Astor's with the ambassadorial corps? That's out there. Yes and it dramatic dramatic fashion and a deeply damaging way he did have some goodwill going in and whatever goodwill there was has been decimated by this whole Ukraine story and even some ambassador former ambassador to Ukraine wrote wrote to pump saying please public defender. She's being unfairly. Attacked allegations are being made that are baseless and this this is a very nonpartisan very professional diplomat. Please defend her. And he doesn't reply directly to that letter and he doesn't publicly defender and he recalls her and I think think for that reason he has really lost the building and that's at least what many people there tell me and we'll tell you and said that is a defining moment for him in terms of trying to be a leader at the stage permanent. Okay we'll be back with more in just a moment. Hey It's Chris as you know sometimes it's good to just take a step back from the day to day onslaught of news and take a broader. Look at the issues. That's what I'm doing each tweet. My podcast why is this happening. Were exploring topics ranging from school segregation to climate change. Well the way that I think it is. Climate Change will be to the twentieth century. What maternity the the nineteenth century? It'll be the central subject of questions about economic justice. Everything you care about in the world will be affected by climate and digging deep with guests uniquely qualified to analyze issues from mass incarceration to race relations. As you know for the first time in our history. The national level whites are on the verge of losing their majority status in twenty years. And I. I think it's no coincidence that our politics are getting more tribal. Join me for. Why is this happening? New episodes every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts. When you've gone which was recalled as this campaign to disparage or is is playing out? Her replacement is bill. Taylor Bill Taylor had held held the post before had impeccable credentials when it came to to representing the United States in Ukraine. But Taylor of course has emerged as one of the most certainly from the trump critic standpoint. They viewed him as one of the most effective witnesses in these impeachment. Hearings was it. POMPEO's call to get Taylor in there as the replacement Ivanovich. And and what was that relationship like Pompeo and Taylor see. That's a key point. And that's what illustrates the nuance. Here you can see that fused fused approving and seeks out the appointment of an equally seasoned experienced diplomat to replace your age that seems to indicate indicate that he doesn't want a yes person there and so you'll have defenders of Pompeo say hold on if he was so weak on all of this he could have appointed someone else not not someone of stature. That Taylor House so you can see him unable to defend Yovani bench presumably because that would put him completely on the outs with President trump. So we had to bow to that demand to get rid of her but then he tried to salvage the situation by pointing tailored to replace her. That that's how people in the building have perceived it and that's a retired diplomats have perceived that I mean. Yeah it sounds like what you're describing a secretary of state who's sort of torn between between a desire to run the department one way and a sense that there are they imperatives. He has to address that. Take Him in another direction. Yes I think. Compels story is incredibly illustrative of the trump presidency. He's really trying to thread the needle. And it's not clear that it's possible and I think Secretary Mattis when he was defense secretary. How to similar kind of dilemma? You know how do you try to steer the ship of state state in a more constructive direction but still not completely. Have a falling out with your commander in chief and man is found that it was not possible and in the end he resigned and now you see pompeo where what if he had. We could ask the question. What if he had stood up for Maria von which what? What if he done that publicly? What would have happened? You know would trump. Dan said that you know you're disloyal. You're defying meet your out in. We won't know but I think think Taylor appointment is really interesting because it does illustrate him trying to thread the needle and maybe not succeeding. But maybe that was what his intent was. It seems that we're this is also shaken out in terms of his standing in the administration. That at least you know pompeo standing with trump. It seems he's in trump's good graces. I say this because you've got this the situation out in Kansas. There's an open Senate seat up for election in twenty twenty couple. Republicans out. There are already running. There's this big fear sort of in the Republican establishment. That Chris Chris Kobuk. He's the former secretary of state in Kansas. He ran for governor out there last year actually lost as a Republican in Kansas. A bit of a controversial figure. There's a fear among Republicans gins. He'll win the primary and maybe possibly potentially put that Senate seat at risk in the general election and so there was trump last week on Fox and friends basically Gli floating the idea of pompeo former congressman from Kansas. Going back in running for that seat. There's been some speculation. POMPEO might be interested and he came to reinstate look. I'd rather stay where I am but he loves Kansas. He loves the people of Kansas if he thought there was a chance of losing that seat I think he would do that and he would win in L. landslide because they love him. That told me and tell me if I'm wrong here that told me. The pompeo still seems to have trump's confidence I guess is the question. Is that alive live possibility that that Pompeo might step down in the near future and go back to running for office absolutely. It is very much alive possibility. And it's no secret that he's interested and it really probably would be his for the taking. He probably would have a really good chance of winning that seat now. Trump's comment you never you know how to interpret Some of the president's suggestions and the one hand it's a compliment it's also a way of showing him the door politely right because no question the report and the relationship he had with the president earlier has diminished absolutely and there are many indications of that and yes pompeo. AOL has not publicly defended some of these diplomats testifying but he also hasn't necessarily always come to the defense of trump or Giuliani agenda in such a public way. Always so there's no question there's friction there now so any perhaps in trying to please both sides he he ends up irritating both sides on on this You mentioned the condition of the State Department. Wind Pompeo came in when Tillerson was leaving if POMPEII does leave here to ruin for Senate in certain for any other reason If he were to leave. How would you describe the condition of the State Department now? Things are not good. I think that would be a fair statement. David there are very few people in the building who say that things are looking bright and Rosie. Now of course it's bureaucracy of of thousands of people and not everyone is affected of course. But there's no question that morale has been damaged and of course morale wasn't was already low before Pompeo took over so as a whole number number of things happening here first of all. There's an inordinate number vacancies. Many many positions have not been filled. So they have acting people in a lot of roles. Then you had an exodus of senior diplomats mainly earlier in the administration including a a number of women number of of minorities and then there's another other data point here the number of young people who are taking the foreign service exams for difficult exam to try to get into the foreign service. That number has dropped so the pool of people people applauding as declined. And then I think in the end the woods what's really the key here is watching. And hearing this testimony money from these experienced career diplomats who are very nonpartisan figures and having to hear and see what happened where these diplomats were. were seeing this Iraq. Irregular Shadow foreign policy being carried out where the professionals weren't being consulted. And maybe even being undermined so I think a combination of all of that. It has really damaged. The outlook for people work over there in Dan so many times. I've been asking you in this In this interview What pump say about this? What's his answer to that? And the answer here comes back that we we just haven't heard much from him. We haven't heard a real full thorough accounting of all of this. I'm curious what your senses are. We going to hear Something more comprehensive from him before this. The impeachment drama is over we'll we'll Democrats seek to compel that from him or is what he has said so far going to stand. I'm sure that somewhere. Some time he will want to have his say and maybe that will come when he leaves and goes to run for the seat in Kansas. But in the meantime he's being accused of obstruction by the Democrats because the State Department has refused to hand over a lot of documents as really refused to cooperate for for the most part and it is ironic. This is the guy who ran the Benghazi and quarrier congressmen and demanded large amounts of documents and testimony from everyone including the Secretary of state at the time Hillary Clinton Clinton testified for many hours and hundreds of thousands of documents and it over so people have pointed pointed out. This is a certain contradiction here. Dan Lewis National Security and global affairs reporter for the Investigative Unit. NBC News Dan. Thank you for joining us. Thank you And there's some other news buzzing around the impeachment inquiry that we are watching this week Devon newness the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee who has been a central figure in these impeachment hearings reportedly played a direct role in efforts to dig up dirt on Joe Biden in Ukraine that is according to live Parnis one of Rudy Giuliani's associates in the Ukrainian pressure campaign. He was indicted last month for campaign finance charges. When asked about the accusation on Fox? News over the weekend. Were you Indiana which Shokhin Nunez had this to say look I really want to answer all of these questions And I promise you absolutely will come back on the show and answer these questions but because there is criminal activity here we're working with the appropriate law enforcement agencies. WE'RE GONNA file all this. Everyone's going to know the truth. Everybody's GonNa know all the facts but I think you can understand that I. I can't compete by trying to trying to debate this out with the public media. When ninety percent of the media are totally corrupt parnes says he is is willing to tell Congress what he knows as part of the impeachment inquiry? That is a story. We will be following closely as it unfolds. Article to incite impeachment is produced by Isabel. Angel Max Jacobs clear tie Aaron Dolton preteen Vardhan. Alison Bailey Adam. Boa and Barbara Rab. Our executive producer is is ellen. Franken Steve Lick tie the executive producer avoids. I'm Steve Kornacki will be back on Wednesday.

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I Don't Have A Square To Spare

The Ross Bolen Podcast

37:27 min | 5 months ago

I Don't Have A Square To Spare

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We have spent an unusual amount of time on bathroom talk. So there's no way I can sit here and pretend I have more than one roll of toilet paper and really dropped the kids off at the pool right before recording. So it's more like eight tenths of a roll of toilet paper left in my entire house right now. This is a very serious and real problem. I tried to post meets toilet paper from four different places this morning. By the way use code rb peon posts for. What is it one hundred dollars a free delivery credit with your first week of service or whatever single one of the places? I tried to post meets toilet. Paper from was out. I can't even get a delivery. Time on my grocery delivery subscription which I might add kind of eliminates the point of the annual subscription. I'm not going to say the name of the service because they're not a sponsor and they're blowing it but if you can't use it you know what's the point. Look imagine if you paid for net flicks. In every time you got on Netflix. It was like Nah. I'm not right now. We're busy as hell. We don't have any shows actually no shows today you'd probably cancel net flicks. There's no more goddamn toilet. Paper left an Austin Texas. I have one role won a solitary role of small paper squares with which to clean the human shit from my human bunghole. One of our co host Mariah by the way shouts to Mariah. Who will be back on? Friday's episode withdrew said. She thinks we should have to submit a photo of our current toilet paper stash to even be eligible for more teepee from either the delivery services or just straight up in the grocery store at all like you have to take a photo with a time stamp if you holding. Today's newspaper to prove that it's from today. Also just randomly. I have two toilets. I should note one in the master one in the guest wing as I call it because it makes my house sound much larger than it is the guest wing anyway. I use both toilets for both purposes but number one and number two that's tinkle and Poo Poo. If if you're wondering yourself what one and to stand for but like okay. I know this is going to be like if I know. It's going to be a rough Pu. Who does number two work for situation that I use the guest wing bathroom because why would I disrespect my master bathroom with a hostile attack? Like that like I feel like when you really reckitt toilet it never truly regains full form like a little piece of that. Toilet is killed each time. A small part dies so I'd rather do that to my guest toilet my master. You know this is all the result of me. Having watched the brave little toaster too many times at a young age I give life to inanimate fucking objects by the way is master bedroom. Something we need to do away with like the phrase master bedroom that sounds like some slave shit really master anything. No more masters kill the masters like Casey said. It's just the main bedroom bro. Say Maine or my bedroom God. You're so racist anyway. I've eight tenths of a roll of toilet paper left and what I'm realizing like so many of you is that I took toilet paper for granted for so long and I was wasteful. I was selfish and stupid and used to complain about things like like single ply and I always sprung for Sharman. Ultra soft double roles and shit. Now look at me. I would suck a Dick for a double role of Sharman. Ultra soft right now. This is serious. A friend of mine with a one year old threesome baby wipes in case of emergency. Because I was complaining about this like I was looking at my stash over the weekend. I got two roles left. One of them's gone now down to one. So she threw me some baby wipes and then informed me. You can't even flush these you throw them in the trash because the wreck your septic tank or whatever what you want me to wipe human feces from my asshole with a wet wipe made for an infant baby and the dispose of it in the garbage next to the toilet for anyone who uses the toilet to see and smell what is happening to our society. Also I let go a paper towels a couple of weeks ago. I used to just burn through paper. Towels Bro no cap. I fucked at least one hundred trees out of our rainforests. I was paper towel monster but a couple of weeks ago because of the obvious circumstances I let go. I've been using hand towels washable reusable towns. This is one of the few good things that came my marriage. I got so many fucking hand towels from that wedding. Fam- rich people weddings. If you don't know this are absolutely insane like a rocky. Wedding game of thrones. I mean you get thousands and thousands of dollars worth of household appliances blenders. Coffee makers cutting boards cookware of all kinds knife sets. It's nuts. I'm not even scared of the economic downturn because if push comes to shove I'm selling kitchen where out of my house and I only have half of what I once had keep that in. Mind one hundred percent in media though baby. Let's go and ensure I'm saving paper trees oxygenating our planet and whatnot by using all these hand towels and nicer wedding wedding tells that I got. But here's the catch. I'm doing like three times as much laundry having wash all these fancy asked house. I'm doing laundry. Basically daily a load voice. Can we use another term a load of laundry? Look Porn. Men and our penises with our Jim. We ruined the phrase. The word load. There's not a load of anything. That's a Lotta Shit on a positive note. I am cherishing squares of paper. Like never before really appreciating the gift of absorbent tree mulch magic. 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I've been using these toothbrushes their toothbrushes for years and years and they're freaking believable. I Love Them. Get QUIP DOT com slash. Rvp NEXT SEGMENT. Selfish people identification season right now. Everyone you talk to sounds worried like you can hear it in the voices of your friends and family uncertain days and shit you can just since the collective anxiety of everyone. It's just a weird as time to be alive. We're on it together. You are not alone but with pretty much every conversation you have right now you get the individual breakdown of why this worldwide pandemic sucks ass for each individual person. You speak to let me tell you. Specifically the ways that this modern plague disease crushing every country has destroyed my own individual personal life. You call up Karen to check on her and her kids and she's like the essential oil business is in the toilet. Nobody's buying sage Coconut Bermuda Triangle bear oil which typically protects their children from the common cold to combat the cove in nineteen which is wild considering is suggested it might actually cure covert in my status. Update we're destitute bitch. Everyone is destitute. By the way I google destitute. And it means quote without the basic necessities of life in quote so it plays. I'm wiping my ass with materials. Crafted for Infinite Amos's and disposing of my own poo in a trash receptacle. So everyone obviously is scared right now but right now you can very very easily identify the most selfish of the human beings among us. Because if you're remaining focused on your personal circumstances and the way your personally affected by a global pandemic you are a trash person you get. Maybe forty eight hours of the month to focus on how fucked you are but come on. Damn it's the whole damn planet first of all. Most of the planet is more fun than you on a daily basis pre plague. Because you're listening to a fucking podcast right now on a piece of technology more powerful than what they used to send the first man into outer fucking space seriously. Chew on that but Ono. It's about you and your personal circumstances in your fucking Unicorn oils care in the neighborhood bicycle. Everyone's had a ride. What even if you've lost your job and are actively losing your mind and your apartment and your savings in the market. Your wife left you. She took all your money in his opening a big cat sanctuary. And you've recently been diagnosed with Mesler. Theo you're still better off than ninety nine percent of the humans to ever walk the earth with your fuck and cell car computer healthcare modern medicine and shit fake boobs health fake everything. Now Bro. Go by yourself. Whatever you want get yourself a fucking dunk. And if you're thinking to yourself right now oh fuck the Maya selfish person. Then yeah probably we all are somewhat right but this is a good time is good a time as any to take a look in the mirror and just adjust appropriately. Maybe switch up. The OL- worldview a bit gain some perspective. Help yourself to a fucking science book or Bible preferably both next segment. The day the music died. I have officially ruined every single song available on spotify market down Monday April thirteenth. Twenty twenty the day. The music died in all seriousness. Never before did I re. I knew I loved music. Okay I've always been a huge fan of music. Y'All hear me talk about music. The time it's one of the big prevalent topics on this show but never did I realize how much music I listen to during downtime which is now all the time like. I have absolutely destroyed every new album. Little baby debate. He Baby Bash Susie Wayne M. They're all ruined. I have played every damn piece of music I have ever heard and I don't know if it's because I have depression and this is just a slump or the damn situation is entirely to blame being stuck in the House all day but holy Shit. I cannot wait for the insane. Influx of new music from all these musicians being stuck in their homes and studios and Shit. All music. Since it's all recently struck me like a bland sandwich. Here's what I've found. There's one genre that still gets the job done. Did still put some lead in my pencil. It's Hustler Musik. Hit Me the other day I was like. I can't fucking take this anymore. God please let one of these songs made me feel something when I was at my computer literally working sound like I was like putting together a fucking piece of furniture like a bed or doing something tight like fucking shit like with a chainsaw. Whatever all of my neighbors is doing all day. My goddamn homered. Everybody has a chainsaw out. This fucking you know what the whole neighborhood went well. We're going to be quarantined. Now's the time to chainsaw. Everything trimmed the trees fucking chop up the bodies we had hidden chainsaws all day. Every day. Left Right Front Sittard North West East south fucking every direction. I have no clue why I can't take it anymore. So the God please anything fucking anything and I turned to the Hustler Music and what I found what through on to make me feel something. It was the pumping iron playlist. That's what I titled Pumping Iron. Yeah it's a playlist. I've used all of six times when I've pumped iron in two thousand twenty. This is where I found my solution though. This is the time for Hustler Music. I'm talking about like Nipsy Wayne. Zero want specifics. Eminem's till I collapse. Oh come on dude. Come on. There isn't a time period or any amount of fucking corona virus can take this spunk out of EMINEM's till I collapse. I'm sorry it just can't if I'm in if I'm in a room watching a loved one pass away in Utah on Eminem's till I collapse. I'm giving that loved one the first verse at least in full all my whole heart and saw if honestly if I'm on my fucking deathbed and somebody in the room doesn't throw on till I collapse in spit fuck. Aw what was the point at any of this? If you don't do that for me Mom Dad Sam any friend. That's listening Holler. If you're by the way I've always been curious to. This is very interesting. How how I wonder how. Many of my like really close people listen to the show. And it's not because I'm offended if you don't or if they don't whatever obviously here if they're not listening but it's a weird thing that you don't like you imagine right that if you had a podcast like a popular podcast or like or like let's say you would just a writer and you go columns on some website. Maybe you blog on your personal website and you would imagine if you like if you put the posts up on your instagram and shit and said like Hey I've been blogging. I've been blogging about stuff and things. Here's my blog. You imagine your people would read the blog right fuck. No people. Don't give a shit about you. It's not like I don't mean it like that as a negative. But it's like Bro. That'd be like if like like if one of my buddies who has like a man job selling insurance was like dog. You want to check out my fucking excel spreadsheet from this. I'm like dude. No I don't care like I just don't that's your job so with your friends. It's SORTA is like that like all my boys. Don't listen to my show. It's not like every single. One of my friends listened to rb P so and I know some that doing some that don't and not again. It's not about being offended. I'm just curious how many people that personally no me listen to the show at this point because I honestly have no clue like every once in a while. I'll talk to somebody who still like. So what is it that you do? And I'm like Fuck Dude fucking Zuckerberg suppressing my instagram account. Son of a bitch motherfucker. So anyway point being if you want my people that you know me personally and you listen to this. Show a shoot me a text and tell me when you heard this little segment here. I do that for me. I can't remember what the point of what I was talking about was. Oh eminem's till I collapse one all better. Show up to my fucking deathbed and throw down at the till I collapse. I want you to do young. Geez put on by the way we did in full in the groom's hang out or whatever the fuck my wedding through back about seven Beers fucking. Hey those were the days fucking. That was when that was that was when Bill Chung is was being born before I before our eyes. Excuse me more songs bobby. Chm murders hot word. Whitey can't say also push t I still wanna you know what fame is sitting with the woman of your dreams and getting what her name is also Kendrick Lamar Ronald Reagan era. These are the vibes we need right now. Folks Soak them in. In these darkest times we must resort to our most powerful music. The should that you would normally only listen to in China. Get through like a mile. Run because you're pathetically outta shape is now the music we must listen to on a daily basis to keep ourselves moving at all always remember kids Hustle Cain Hustle close I hustle music but hustle hard in any hustle. That you pick hopeful. Rb Twenty four also brought to you by bespoke post if your mailbox is anything like mine. Ninety percent of the time. It's a fairly depressing place. Political Flyers utility bills unholy amounts of coupons. God don't get divorced. They start sending you every week. I get a flyer in the mail. 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Today's we are announcing quitting day. Seven point zero. I honestly have no idea how many of these we've done but seven feels right so fuck it. It's the year the comeback were all stuck in our domiciles for another six weeks or some shit realistically. So hey listen if you have a habit or a full addiction that you want to kick. What better fucking time. I ask. Maybe you've been looking for a window to quit drinking or just cut back or quit smoking weed or take a break. Maybe it's just temporary for a month or even a week or maybe he's just for a day just to see how you do or maybe you're trying to quit drinking soda or you need to quit watching porn like Aj because the crank life wasn't meant for you. Whatever the case Monday next week April twenty. Twenty twenty what more perfect day to say goodbye and push the bad habits away April twentieth. Twenty twenty you know what day that is folks that would be four twenty twenty twenty the four twenty that we look forward to for all of the twenties and then guess what Cova killed it killed our glorious all month long for twenty so on four twenty twenty twenty. We will fight the fuck back with quitting day. Seven point now. Maybe that's when you start your tea-break celebrate four twenty the first twenty days of April and then you tea-break maybe that's the move. Maybe you don't smoke weed and you don't give a shit about April twentieth of any year sick. I don't either. I'd never been a four twenty person. Don't give a fuck never celebrated with the other donors. I don't get it. I smoke weed everyday. Why the fuck am I suddenly? Oh God this that'd be like if I gave myself I gave presents to everybody every day and the and the Christmas if like if people were like what Bro. You don't love Christmas. Be Like Dude. I do this every day. Be like if I was Santa Claus and people. Were like what you're deal. You don't criticize like br those every day for me. I work on toys and then I moved them on this one day I smoke. We just terrible analogy. Ross what Ron What. Santa brought what the point is this. You Say Goodbye. Pickup thing anything. Maybe it's like all right a few weeks back. I'll give you another one. What does this just like? I just review all the fucking vices. I have a few weeks back. I admitted I kept eating ice cream before bed. Might be related to weed. Kept eating ice cream before bed. And then I would get night sweats real bad and I was like. Oh man focus with the gross and I connected it to the Ice Cream. Right so obviously. I needed to stop eating ice cream before so I did now. I didn't need a quitting day for that one but I need a quitting for something else. I'm going to announce it next Monday and So the point is this. Maybe that's it for you. Maybe it some as simple as you need to stop eating ice cream and fucking bad. 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#EERS S8 Ep170: Smoke Impeachment Forest Fire

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#EERS S8 Ep170: Smoke Impeachment Forest Fire

"Got It is they do it all with heart not the hyped up drama those other shows we've all seen tie Pennington the renovation guy he's on it in a man to Brinkman this I've got to tell you about this cool show I discovered called Small Business Revolution Main Street it's a business makeover show with tons of awesome advice what I love about with Ukraine's president and that Mitch McConnell told him the call was perfect and was innocent here's Mitch McConnell talking to reporters yesterday well let's see cranium president was innocent the president live we need to begin with the biggest story of the day which is the media is not treating as the biggest story of the day and I actually Sion's all of a sudden and the problem is not bill Taylor we will spend a Lotta time on Bill Taylor today trust me the problem though is not bill Taylor per se majority leader if the Republicans lose the Senate he will become the minority leader Chuck Schumer's place while Chuck Schumer is in his place and he the problem is Mitch McConnell Mitch McConnell did something yesterday that was actually pretty extraordinary Washington DC operates Mitch. McConnell is the Senate any conversations on that subject I don't recall any conversations with the president about that phone call they might lose the Senate well it might be happening Mitch. McConnell was confronted yesterday by group of reporters one of whom asked him about his phone call with the does not want that to happen and right now polling around the country suggests if the election were held today the Republicans would lose the Senate I don't recall any conversations with the president about that phone call that phone call being his call with Ukraine's President Yeah Giddy every single day at the prospect of the end of the trump administration and we're not at the end of the trump administration in fact the odds are very likely that Donald trump available online and at CBS these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA this product is not intended to diagnose treat cure or prevent any disease hello good morning their flaws and and and concerns in what night well okay yes but but but but there is a problem for the trump administration this is the first time this has happened six months ago all the poll suggested the Senate was secure the Republicans did not have to worry about well as the impeachment wins have shifted among other resident if you will recall president trump told Mitch McConnell there the president told reporters that he had talked to Mitch McConnell about the president's called targets your pain at its source it's fast acting relief with active OTC ingredients plus the added benefits of THC free Boil get back to your life with CBD medic we'll be on the ballot in November twenty twenty and in fact the Democrats are in meltdown right now over the prospect that Donald Trump could win re election in twenty twenty despite all the it is Eric Erickson here beautiful chilly day around the state of Georgia the phone number eight seven seven nine seven irrigate seven seven nine seven three seven four two you think that this is the first moment you know the media for how many years now the media has been saying it's the end of the trump administration they're almost things the Senate becomes in play and the only thing that will get Senate Republicans to be TRAE president trump's so to speak is the chance it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind oh it's pain and it's getting in between you and a life you want to live cbd medication and Bill Taylor's testimony yesterday when Mitch McConnell directly contradicts the President of the United States which he rarely does McConnell directly contradicted the accident shortly after the president got elected and then they entered a a true so to speak the president put Mitch McConnell's wife in charge of the Labor Department earning because McConnell is not interested in the welfare of the presidency McConnell is not interested in the president of the United States at all in conversations on that subject we've not had any conversations on this subject jaw this is actually a really big deal I would argue this as a bigger deal it and or the transportation department and that was it the to have spoken the to speak regularly president started praising Mitch McConnell in the last year or so and now they have this happen is a little bit concerning in its concern in saving the judiciary from the left and when he says something like this he publicly breaks from the president he's not Schmidt Connell is interested in preserving the Senate majority Mitch McConnell is interested in confirming judges as quickly as possible Mitch McConnell is interested survey you told him that his phone call with Ukrainian president was perfect lease the president as you he could have said I I'm not going to talk about the conversations between the president and me he could have said to extrapolate that the president is lying he himself won't call the President Liar he's not GonNa do that that would be too explosive but he certainly was allowing a charge to be set at this comes on the heels of the testimony with Bill Taylor now listen now I'm not taking questions at this time on the subject we're here to talk about something else he could have said a lot of things instead he said I did I need to say something about Bill Taylor here some of my friends and I've got very good friends in the conservative press willing to say the president's liar but think of the other ways the president there that he could have said this could have responded he said I'm not GonNa get into that talk to the president about this after the report says the President says here's what you said about his call And he all but says the president a liar he allows the reporter servant in foreign relations he worked for President Reagan's White House and then he became an adviser to William Howard. Taft Taylor Bill Taylor helped build the coalition that helped George H.w Bush win the Gulf War Bill Taylor and I'm not going to go there I can defend the president on numerous things in fact I have long said I didn't think has called with Ukraine's president sounded yes and in conservative media and I already see a number of them trying to attack Bill Taylor as a partisan Democrat Ito for George H W Bush William Howard taft had worked for Ronald Reagan and then worked for George H W Bush helped him transition became the ambassador to NATO and with for those who don't do who Bill Taylor is Bill Taylor was in the one hundred first airborne in Vietnam he left Vietnam and became a career public to build that coalition Bill Taylor went into public service during the Clinton administration was recalled by George W Bush he became the he is a man who went into the White House adamantly against the Russians he went in this is the he's not a man whose character I intend to assassinate and acid to Ukraine for George W Bush he left again when Obama became president but ultimately the Obama administration had to call him back in to the White House to help the president and had assurances that the President would send Ukraine William Howard Taft the President William Howard tafs great-grandson we married taps great grandson was the ambassador to NATO impeachable I think Bill Taylor's phone call our Bill Taylor System when he is deeply troubling but I'm not going to attack Bill Taylor in Leuven ambassador they referred to him as the acting ambassador through Ukraine because he was not confirmed by the Senate again he was listed as the charge eight affairs which is essentially the chief officer of the embassy on August sixteen this is now we are several weeks removed from President Trump's conversation with m who is the one of the acting or senior foreign policy representatives of Ukraine's president had asked the United States to submit an official recall it needed to combat the Russians. Let me read from you now some Bill Taylor transcript this'll be an I report you decide matter withholding assistance I heard that soon after the secretary Kerry the cable with him to a meeting at the White House focused on security assistance to you by mid August because the security assistance had been held over for had held for over a month for no reason I could discern I began to fear met with presidents Alinsky during their meeting security assistance was not discussed amazingly news of the whole did not leak out until two days later crane the same day I sent my cable to Palm Pale Year Matt contacted me and was very concerned asking about Withholding Security Assistance Greens to conduct an investigation based on relations of their own loss struck me as improper and I were recommended to Ambassador Volker that we stay clear the long standing US policy of strong support for Ukraine was shifting on August twenty seven embassador Bolton arrived in Kiev support Ukraine and he wanted the Ukrainians to do more to fight corruption during the same call I had with Mr Morrison privately during which I expressed my serious concern about the withholding military assistance to Ukraine while the Ukrainians were defending their country from Russian aggression ambassador he did have conversations with Bill Taylor but bill Taylor that Sunland did not recall what Mr Morrison told me this was the first time I heard the security assistance was conditioned on investigations his conversations with Mr Taylor so someone Mitzi had the conversation but he cannot recall the con Tim Morrison on September Second I briefed Mr Morrison on what ambassador Sunlen had told me ambassador Tim Morrison is a national security aide works in the White House is a national security aide helps on Ukrainian matters Bill Taylor calls resume security cooperation the vice president did not respond substantively but said he would talk to president trump that night the vice president did say president trump wanted the Europeans to do more tune recommended ice in the first hand cable Secretary Pompeo directly related concerns I did it on August twenty ninth describing the folly I saw in it's twenty nine I on the other hand was all too aware of and still troubled by the hold on security assistance near the end of Ambassador Bolton's visit I asked to meet him that's going to come back to haunt him here's the reason because of Tim Morrison through the security assistance money would not come until presidents alinsky committed to pursue a burris MMA investigation I was alarmed by he went on to describe a conversation Ambassador Sunlen had with Mr Euromac at Warsaw Ambassador Sunland told Mister Euromac received a readout of the Pinson Linski media over the phone from Tim Morrison who was national security aide during which he told me presence Alinsky had opened the meeting by asking the president of the making it about Biden at all becomes an issue where it raises the prospects of impeachment at any of the money unless they investigated Joe Biden that's the phone call between so he texts sunland and they have a back and forth suddenly you need to understand testified before Congress last week and said he it tying this into Joe Biden was a problem and and had to help get him to help with Middle East affairs president trump called Bill Taylor back to be the ambassador Morrison in Sunlen and that's a big deal now again you need understand that intense the conversation he cannot recall what he told Bill Taylor he cannot recall what Bill Taylor told him he has a member of the conversation but no memory of a substance respite investigation debris MS alleged violations of Ukrainian law if that is what the United States desired a formal US requests to the the money then just meeting the White House. What Mr Morrison didn't hold Sunlen Mr Morrison told me about the Sunland your conversation this was the first time I heard that the security assistance was dependent so he takes sunlen Morrison Rights Sunland had a phone call with the president and the president told Sunland Ukraine could not get defined out the legal aspect of the question however I gave him the name of a deputy assistant attorney general whom I thought would be proper a proper point of contact for seeking a US referral for foreign investigation President Dolinsky of Ukraine on August sixteenth I exchanged technology text messages with Ambassador Volker in which I learned that Mr Euromac nine seven Eric Eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five I gotta read you again this passage from about the delay of US assistance that it was an all or nothing proposition in the sensitive the White House do not let the whole prior to the end of the fiscal year the funds would expire and Ukraine Woodson's nothing and to travel to Warsaw but at the last minute had cancelled because of Hurricane Dorian just hours before the Prince Pence's Alinsky meeting I contacted Mr Daniel look that let him know and or what Morrison then told Taylor was that according to Tim Morrison President Trump did insist presents alinsky go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and Twenty Sixteen Back Morrison tells him that Sunland said the president made it very clear it wasn't just burris Ma it was also Joe Biden the president on September first three days after my cable to the second to Secretary Pompeo Presidents Alinsky met Vice President Pinson bilateral meeting more saw president trump had sunland had told Bill Taylor that the money was going to be withheld and that there was more to the withhold the president according to Morrison Morrison I'm reading now from the transcript Morrison went onto describe conversation Ambassador Sunlen had with Mr Iraq testimony before the House on September Fifth I hosted Senators Johnston and Murphy for a visit to Kiev during their meeting we met with presidents Alinsky and insisted this is it the president trump insisted according to Morrison he described a phone conversation between Ambassador Sunland and president trump Mr Morrison said he had a sinking feeling after learning about the conversation from a master sunlen according to Mr Morrison President Trump told masters when he was not asking for quid pro quo but premise of this they didn't they go behind closed doors during the entire thing even the reading of this testimony which they release but then the questions are asked based on this testimony and in the irregular efforts led by Rudy Giuliani two days later on September seven I had a conversation gene and that presidents Alinsky should want to do this himself Mr Morrison said he told him bastard or Bolton and the NFC lawyers of the phone call any other areas that the house members want to go Republicans and Democrats alike asked the questions the Republicans are not shut out of the process it is investigator there are all sorts of problems with this paragraph in Bill Sunlen and Bill Taylor testimony problems for those who want to confirm it most important strategic asset and that President Alinsky should not jeopardize that bipartisan support by getting drawn into US domestic politics doc but to actually bring an opening statement and they read that statement as their testimony that statement is then released to everyone's everyone kind of understands that Tim Morrison in which he described a phone conversation earlier that day between Ambassador Sunland and president trump Mr Morrison said he had a sinking um the from Bill Taylor and you need to understand that this wasn't a leak per se what the the house investigators have been stalemate unless Alinsky did this make would pro quo was a favor for a favor you want the money you gotta do this there's for both sides that ask questions I'm reading from page twelve a bill Taylor's printed testimony this is sworn statement that he gave to open his a problem for those who wanted tonight as well let's work through this key paragraph when we come back welcome back if you want to call in and be part of the program this morning eight seven seven the feeling after learning about the conversation from Ambassador Sunland according to Mr Morrison President Trump told ambassadors Lynn that he was not asking for a quid pro quo doing knowing that this stuff is going to leak anyway because in writing they have been allowing or they have been releasing the opening statements of the individuals testified nine before the house this is rather important you need to understand why both sides get copies of the printed opening statements everyone is asked to bring not just come in I had been making and continue to make this point to all my Ukrainian official contacts but the push to make presidents alinsky publicly commit presents alinsky publicly around the country I worked for the president President Bush for his I was a volunteer lawyer for his campaign I've worked in partisan politics but president trump did insist that presidents Lindsey go to a microphone and say he is opening investigations of Biden and twenty sixteen to go about it is they're trying in most cases to just attack the credibility of the people testifying. It's real hard to do that with someone like Bill Taylor is the Ukraine representative ambassador Sunland told Mister your mic the security systems money would not come until President Linsey committed to pursue the breeze M- investigation I was alarmed by what interference and that presents Linski should want to do this himself Mr Morrison said that he told embassador Bolton and the NFC lawyers of this first question to the senators was about withheld security assistance my recollection of the meeting is that both senator stressed the bipartisan support for Ukraine in Washington was Ukraine according to Sunland Sunland said repeatedly that the president said there's no quid pro quo there is no quid pro quo but is Alinsky had to do commit to investigations of Burris MMA and alleged interference in the two thousand sixteen election showed how the official foreign policy of the United States was undercut by a week earlier but that president trump was adamant that presence Alinsky himself had to clear things up and do it in public he said there was no quid pro quo but there would be phone call between president trump and embassador sunlen the following day on September Eighth Ambassador Sunland and I spoke with a bone he said he had talked to president trump as I had suggested has immense street cred in the foreign policy community and among Republicans going back to the first Bush administration where he helped build the coalition too I you know how these things work I'm a partisan too I wasn't elected Republican I've worked in Republican politics a campaign operative I managed campaigns L. Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait. Here's here's part of the problem the president to do this himself in other words we we need to get Dolinsky to decide he needs to do this himself as opposed to we marketing guru from deluxe definitely check it out you can watch it on Hulu prime or small business revolution dot org it's cutting into your exercise time I and it's still murder even though you say it's not murder you can say I'm not GonNa make a quid pro quo with you but in order to get the thanks to get the money and that is a quid pro quo quid pro quo is a legal term you can say I did not murder the person even though you put the bullet through there money you must go before a camera and do these things and oddly enough the president emphasizing that it needs to look like it was presidents Alinsky should want ahead A you still murdered the person you can say you didn't do it or you can say you're not going to do it but the person has to have a bullet through their head man is about to sign a check to someone who owes him something he said the businessmen ask the person to pay before signing the check ambassador Bulker us a problem but there's something else here to you need to understand thing that will raise the most questions all right or back listen I don't mean to be boring I get that and and there are ways to defend I think some of the defenses the president out there are really dumb there are ways to defend this and they're not doing it eh some of them may not be very good ways but there are ways to defend the president in his his supporters are flailing about trying to come with excuses and and the way they're trying you to make him well here here's ultimately the problem the money was released but I got a scroll down to a other the audience this morning I I find this to be very very important and I'm trying to do this as as factually and chronologically as possible for everybody because the same term several days later when we were together at the alte Europeans strategy conference I argued to boat that the explanation made no sense Ukrainians did not oh president trump any another key paragraph here ambassador Sunland this is on page thirteen ambassador Sunland tried to explain to me that president trump is a businessman when a business got a lot of friends of mine who are Republicans in contact I help get a lot of these Republicans in Congress elected and I understand the spin game in the need to defend after I learned the security assistance was released on September eleventh two thousand Nineteen I personally conveyed the news to presidents Alinsky and foreign minister you know that's Kinda the thing here this this is one of the things that frustrates me about all this there are ways to defend the president this is the this is the biggest issue here finally I learned on September eleventh that the hold had been lifted insecurity assistance would be provided thing and holding up security system for domestic political gain was crazy as I said in my text messages to ambassador someone bulk number nine finally this is getting involved in other countries elections my fear at the time was that since ambassador Sunland had told me presents Alinsky had already agreed to do appreciate go I again reminded Mr Euromac of the high strategic value a bipartisan support for Ukraine and the importance of nations of dollars Sunland went into the anybody but trump camp sunlen does not like Donald Trump Sunlen Act Gordon sunlen backed Jeb Bush when Jeb Bush bailed on the campaign after spinning mill because Sunland gave lots of money to the president's inauguration and then began lobbying for the ambassadorship to the European Union a Barista and the Biden's now I bet you didn't catch that significant point in there psomas right here that has come through from a friend of mine in the House representatives who is telling me then I am actually spot on in this particular point consulted Donald Trump publicly in two thousand sixteen basically called him a blithering idiot sunland himself sounds like a blithering idiot this is imported she got but Sunlen doesn't like the president summons a Jeb Bush guy but sunland this is going to be the question people behind closed doors are asking themselves it is the question according to this member of Congress who's texting me already is the question they're asking themselves hit the breaks sound effects this was the first time I had seen the details of the July twenty fifth call on September twenty fifth seems to be doing some damage control if only to protect himself in all of this but here's the relevant key fact Solanki face to face he also released the transcript of the July twenty five call the United States gave the Ukrainians virtually no notice of the release and they were Livid Room through Mr Daniel Luke that presidents Alinsky was not planning to give such an interview to the media well Mr Daniela initially confirmed that on United States and the president of Ukraine and nobody told him nobody told this is actually going to be the thing that raises all the eyebrows this this is actually the thing that if I were in the trump administration bill Taylor is our acting ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor since March of Twenty nineteen has been agitating for although this was the first time I had seen the details of President Trump's July twenty fifth call with presents Alinsky in which he mentioned Vice President Biden I had come understand well before then that investigations was a term that ambassadors Volker in Sunland used to mean matters of the two thousand sixteen election and two investigations where they rushed to put the transcript into the secure locker so quickly that no one could tell Bill Taylor what was said asked Mr Dan look to confirm there would be no CNN interview which he did on September twenty fifth at the UN General Assembly session in New York City the president trump met President own goal betweens Alinsky and trump he continues through April may June and July to agitate for a meeting between the president is that is that what happened and if so why why on September twenty fifth at the General Assembly session in New York City president trump met prisons Linski face-to-face he also released a transcript of July twenty five call the United States gave the Ukraine. It's just bizarre I think Bongino is making everybody's point four them why was it's he tells Rick Perry there needs to be a meeting he tells the senators there needs to be a meeting he tells the ambassadors there needs to be meeting he tells the National Security Adviser Timber Twelve I noticed during a meeting on the morning of September Thirteen in presidents alinskyites office that Mr Yurman look uncomfortable in response to the question again the president did Bill Taylor know about the phone call or not is to be a meeting he tells the secretary of state there needs to be a meeting there is finally a meeting on July twenty two thousand nineteen by phone between the president of the Taylor not inquire about the details of the phone call that becomes relevant because that's on Bill Taylor is it not that's did bill Taylor know about the phone call or not if Bill Taylor knew about the phone call then the question becomes why did was watching we have a tough time with dates calendars and chronology to call was in July which means it's a really bad attempted extortion if you don't tell that's a relevant question if bill tailored new the phone call had happened then he needs to say so about Bill Taylor and this and we need to dissect this and I will give you I will articulate for you the best defense I can offer I think for the president which I think is oh and he needs to say why he did not make inquiries about it now Taylor about the phone call now you say this is this is just incompetence by the White House staff and a lot of people will believe you but there's a problem here appears based on what we know so far this is where the Democrats quid pro quo only to a liberal does that mean there is a quid pro quo or a media type that's the only translation liberal understands of no quid pro quo up and presents Alinsky had the long-awaited phone conversation strangely even though I was chief of mission and was answered in a text by Gordon someone that solid had spoken to the president and said the president said let me be crystal clear there is no the next day I texted Volker someone about prisons Lewinsky's concerns here's the paragraph on July twenty five president trump now have more information about the call then Bill Taylor did because he never even saw the transcript and keep in mind this is also the guy the Ukrainian government issued a short cryptic summary during a previously planned. Let me read you page eight on July Twentieth I had a phone conversation with a Master's Sunland while he was on a train from Paris to London Ambassador Sunland told me that he had scheduled to meet with President Alinsky along with Ambassador Volker the next day I received no readout of the call from the White House why the in this this is this is going to be the question this is going to be the most important question for the Democrats to ask and this is going to be questioned the impact at a question I got a is a better one than what these guys are doing but listen to this yeah I mean think about what happened today Sean Bill Taylor in this testimony which was supposed to be revelatory well what did we the people you're extorting them sean another take away from this testimony today Taylor's admitted he didn't even see him read out on the call so again you may and Geraldo the line of contact over thirteen thousand Ukrainians had been killed in the war one or two a week one inside the US government was during a phone call. I had with Tim Morrison Dr Hill's replacement at the National Security Council on July us this is problematic Now the question is in here this goes to the relevant defense although I spit the morning of July twenty six with presidents Alinsky and other creating officials the first summary of the trump's Alinsky call that I heard from any really find out that the so-called quid pro quo for the military aid that Taylor admitted that the Ukrainians even though the military is held up until August now minted the president's Linski that he used the phrase I will leave no stone unturned with regard to investigations when presents Lindsey spoke to President Trump on July twenty that phone conversation on September twenty fifth okay there we go so did Taylor try to get a copy of the transition questions this is the problem with the Taylor testimony it raises a lot more questions and it gives many more names of people Republicans and Democrats in Congress. Why was it tailored given the readout in why did it take two days to get a summary of the readout is the big question and there are lots of plausible answers for why this happened but I I play the sound bite this is Dan Bongino on Fox last night talking Taylor had the opportunity request the transcript and he didn't request the transcript Bill Taylor obviously knew because of his background how the transcript would work and Bill Taylor should've known because of his background medians were actually no notice of the releasing they were livid although this was the first time I had seen the details of President Trump's July twenty five call with I need one of those records craft Sorta I feel in the spirit of full disclosure I could tell you should tell you I wrote a book a couple years ago I you know I should start giving free copies away shouldn't I actually get some of these books and give Oval Office as promised by President Trump on May twenty ninth in a letter after our meeting with presents Linski Ambassador Volker and I traveled to the Front I twenty six meeting Presidents Alinsky told him Master Volker me that he was happy with the call but did not elaborate prisons Linski than asked about the face to face meeting in the a way nope nope nope well wait will will no I back up a buddy of mine who's listening told me to look on page eight I twenty eight Mr Morrison told me the call could have been better and that president trump hits exempted suggested that is on that I think this person needs to be rooted out in fired in in but more than that this person should be resigning there's there's is one of their clients Donna Brazile is one of their clients and now anonymous is one of their clients anonymous is the White House staffer more than Sunland as our sunlen sounds like a blithering idiot suddenly you should understand was a hotel you're who gave a lot of money did not like president trump in within him yeah we do because he didn't get the transcript the question is did he ask for the transcript okay listen I again is that Bill Taylor was not told the phone call had happened that's my assumption but I don't know and with Mr Daniela during which he conveyed Daniel again as an aide does Alinsky during which he conveyed to me that as Alinsky did not want to be used as a pawn in US reelection campaigns That he could get a copy of the transcript of why didn't he do so that these are things the White House could raise their they're not raising them and that raises wise I gotTA wonder who anonymous is a but more importantly is anonymous on the job because I think anonymous it's time for anonymous to quit because Bill Taylor not giving a transcript of the phone call a budget you just heard him say we know more about the call than Bill Taylor the ambassador it was Taylor blocked from getting a copy of the transcript detailer push forward these are things the White House could bring these are things the White House could say in defense that there's some concerns now for the White House in with Bill Taylor's testimony in they need to be on their a game they need to not have people out on TV say and we'll we know more about this call the Linzie or his staff meet with Mr Giuliani and Attorney General William Bar I did not see any official readout of the call until publicly released javelins and since then they've kind of become the premier political agency in in Washington for people write books they've got Tucker Carlson Things you want your kids to know and my my agent is a guy two guys named Keith urban and Matt Latimer they run a group called the entire fence around anonymous though the White House depends is essentially that the president of the United States long suspected people in hose his agenda and oppose the direction that he had been elected by the people lawfully to chart anonymous released an op Ed in the New York Times but I was aware that assistance was on hold which made me uncomfortable ambassador Volkan I could see the armed and hostile russian-led forces on the other side of the damaged bridge across clearly I think the White House can make their entire defense around anonymous I do I think the White House could make the White House were trying to undermine a new direction in foreign policy the President Sall repeated leaks from inside we're going with this and you need to understand this is what Republicans in the house are thinking as well is the situation this was a clear red flag to the President that there were people inside the bureaucracy that he could not fire to the Civil Service Act who were set out to a confirming in fact that there were people inside the administration who were opposing the president of the United States therefore the president of the United States had line in northern Dunbar to receive a briefing from the commander of the forces of the line of contact arriving for the briefing the military headquarters the commander thanked us for security assistance her who is right who wrote the anonymous column in the New York Times that basically I'm the resistance inside the White House I'm actively the national security and intelligence community and foreign policy community designed to understand him steering the ship of state in a different direction from his predecessors executive officer of the United States his employees who congress prohibited him from firing were obstructing the direction he wanted to chart this is an issue that should be twenty twenty eight new throw him out of office but to undermine him through the bureaucracy actually is something that should not happen in our constitution action that favours Russia but it's his right to do it under the constitution and if you don't like it you have an election in November appease away to people so two years ago I wrote a book before you wake it's not a political book essentially my wife and I both had a near death experience and the news let me bring you up to speed real quick on the bill Taylor testimony from before Congress we have his written statement Bill Taylor was the ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor essentially well for the voters in November of next year it's not impeachable. This actually is the undermining the president by his own employees and in fact the New York Times now as an article out in in to deploy back channels like Rudy Giuliani entrusted advisors like William Bar to ensure that the president's agenda was carried out the president is the cheapest bolt some of the defense that the president of the United States might be able to make in impeachment heap you're if you're here and you haven't heard helped build the coalition for purging Saddam Hussein from Kuwait during the first Gulf War Bill Taylor was George W Bush's ambassador to Ukraine it Bill Taylor is an upstanding guy just so you understand there are people within the trump administration cautioning the trump administration not to try to do a character assassin he found out about it he knew something was going on in and essentially what Taylor said to Congress and we have is written testimony is that the Sunland hold the house investigators he had no memory of his conversation with Bill Taylor that he did talk to Bill Taylor but he eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five I want to spend some time this hour actually lay now wanted to write a book for my kids the things I would want them to know and their favorite recipes if something should happen to their mom and me I would want them to know about it and Ukrainians could not get the security assistance unless the president of Ukraine held a press conference and before cameras and microphones said they were investigating Joe Biden Inara also plays into this anonymous book you know the person who wrote the anonymous op Ed in the New York Times they're coming out with a book now I have some strongly held raise the deep state and the obstruction of the deep state. You can disagree with the direction the president wants to chart you can even believe the president of the United States wants to charter Taylor and and we don't know we do not know and I've read through here and it does not Masumi my my assumption so I wanted to give away or I wanted to write the book I should get some and give them away I guess you can read it it's just it's life lessons for kids the State Department he was the adviser to William Howard Taft the fourth of the great grandson of president. Taft that taft was the NATO ambassador who between the President and Ukraine's president He wanted it done it was done Bill Taylor was left out of the loop on Ukrainian assistance for a time Taylor says their conversation was that Sunlen confirmed the president had told Sunland the money wouldn't flow unless Biden was investigated in two thousand sixteen Asian on Bill Taylor because he's actually a Republican Bill Taylor worked and for Reagan for both bushes he worked inside the foreign affairs eighteen to undermine the president and doing so to save the country because what the president wants to do is is awful stuff and now anonymous is writing a book and didn't take an advance and is giving all the money to charity now the president of the United States Gordon Sunland the EU ambassador this was not a quid pro quo but that must be done for the money to flow which actually is the definition of a quid pro quo awesome and there's your defense hello and welcome it is Eric Erickson here across the state of Georgia the phone number if you WANNA be a part of the program eight seven seven nine seven Eric this is the best case they have right now in light of Bill Taylor's testimony Bill Taylor by the way new the call with President happened and they didn't give him out of the call two days after the phone call A national security aide named Tim Morrison called Taylor and told him the call was bad team is not making and I think they should and you can disagree if you want you can disagree with the defense if you want but I think oh the trump White House called him back and sent him to Ukraine they needed someone to go in after the previous ambassador have been fired so they sent him back in Taylor wanted this phone call it Mitch. McConnell has stood shoulder to shoulder with the president throughout all of the stuff he's now walking away from the president he's also walking away from the president on the lynching remarks for confirmed call with Ukraine's president was perfect and there was nothing wrong with it McConnell said he never had a conversation with the president on that win the reporter said so are you saying the presidency had no recollection of what he told Bill Taylor Bill Taylor says yes we talked confirming Sunland and fills in the gap of the things Sunland says he can't remember only fifty two months exactly two months after the phone call happened this is going to raise all sorts of wise Why did Bill Taylor not get the transcript why was he lying? McConnell says you'll have to talk to the president about that that's that's a big red flag that's a bigger reflecting the Taylor situation to have McConnell say that that it didn't go as well as it should have gone and they wouldn't give Taylor the transcript Taylor did not get the transcript until all of us got the transcript on September I don't want to spend a lot of time on the Lynching Democrats have used this as well and the Democrats who were attacking the Republicans now on on it or hypocritical because they have repeatedly used the phrase Lynch and including going back region here's my defense that I would offer if I was defending the president and again the president does not have a war room and I think they need a war room action then by claiming the Russians stole it with him then by the circulation of the steele dossier evidence and the exposure of the steele dossier evidence try to make it claim that the President Lisa page documents the Andrew McCabe Behavior James Comey behavior all show they were career bureaucrats within the government some of whom couldn't fired into civil service laws who were out to undermine the that's where we are with the Taylor investigator that's why the Taylor testimony is so bad the bigger story I think from yesterday in this whole week is that the president made on twitter about what was happening in the House Representative Kay you care that Mitch McConnell is refusing now to stand shoulder to shoulder with the president in fact win. CBS News asked him about the president saying McConnell the president does not have a rapid response team right now on this and they need a rapid response team the defense I would give for president trump is as follows you're too even getting into the White House it became very clear that there was an effort to undermine the legitimacy of his presidency I by claiming the Russians stole the was undermining United States foreign policy with the Russians when that wasn't true the release of the steele dossier and the subsequent leaks stories around the world without the careerist and the government finding out about it who were trying to sabotage the president this leads us to crane the president had begun locking away there are people inside the government who are working together to undermine the presidency and the president's foreign policy and domestic policy and national security goals and this confirmed to the did not like and though he is the president is this constitutional right to do that the careerist decided to obstruct him the only way around this was to set up a show in an interview presidents Lindsay would make a statement regarding investigations that would have played into domestic US politics I saw to confer transcripts after several leaks the president felt the need to lock this transcript away as well because the president was very interested in corruption going back to two thousand sixteen the President based on the Muller reports and why were they trying to undermine him they were trying to undermine him because the president of the United States was elected by the people to chart a new course in foreign policy that career bureaucrats president the leaks of transcripts with phone calls with the Australian prime minister and others also show that the president of the United States had careerist inside the government trying to undermine him in the molar investigation show there are people inside the administration who are out to get the president the FBI investigators and the FBI investigation the your struggles. The steel report and others was convinced the Democrats in two thousand sixteen we're trying to sabotage him using the government and using foreign powers including people in Ukraine to auto government if you will of people to advise the president from the outside including Rudy Giuliani who could convey the president's messages to foreign leaders and and undermine his election and then de legitimize his presidency he didn't know he who he could trust in government along comes at anonymous op Ed in the New York Times saying that in fact there asses giving history in our country I would not compare this to alleging that was unfortunate choice of words to the to the Clinton administration and that impeachment I I've got a few more thoughts on there I'll get there but I I want to I want to articulate a defense of the president of the presidency given a full briefing on the phone call when he's the only one of the phone call why did all these things happen and Republicans in the in fact I've gotten a text message from a Republican member of Congress saying this is a big again he was lawfully and duly elected to do what he pleased in foreign policy for the United States that he thought was in the interest of the country and these people opposed to it because as an everything he had long suspected which caused him to redouble his efforts to keep as many people as possible out of the way out of knowledge of what he wanted to do for American foreign policy within his own administration because they were out to scuttle a change in foreign policy the day themselves did not like to the extent this looks bad it is because the president of the United our president of the United States I would make to the extent that the stuff looks bad it looks bad because the president had no knowledge and no ability to trust people enriching themselves off government the thought it was worthy of investigation to show the hypocrisy and that's all this is there was except Rudy Giuliani and William Bar and a handful of others around him and they had to work to keep as much of it in the shadows corruption went back to information the president learned through his third party sources that Biden had engaged in a cover up when he was eight anonymous books confirming they're doing it and then have the New York Times cheer on these anonymous bureaucrats who were stymying his efforts that he was lawfully and duly elected wrap that around their brain and executed therefore the president had to find a new way to get it done the end I would build the entire and this is just another example of that the president based on all of this situation based on anonymous based on the leaks based on all these things relied heavily and sworn into power to be able to do the entire deep state is working against the president and there was no one he could trust the president of the United States around that the fact that they're not the fact that I mean the defense is that Rudy Giuliani and brought entrusted people from the outside including William Bar the attorney general to make sure that the president's orders were lawfully carried out that's all this was work times op-ed in praise of this very same deep state for trying to scuttle the trump administration everyone ignoring the fact that he was lawfully elected and therefore was allowed to do these things is and therefore was allowed to change course American foreign policy obstructed and stymied along the way by bureaucrats who go to the New York Times and confirmed they're doing it and and he did it and they were proven wrong yet again time and time again when the president his chartered new courses all the people and all the experts who said bad things would happen were wronged and when they failed they use the steele dossier as an insurance policy the steele dossier was put together with people including people in Ukraine and he wanted to find out about that because they didn't know who they could trust and that's not his fault that's the Democrats fault and that's the deep state spoilt and therein is the defense states is trying to chart a new foreign policy for the United States untied to previous foreign policies of the United States and the bureaucracy within the deep state cannot the corruption and when he found out that Joe Biden's family was enriching itself off the government and the exact same time the Democrats were accusing the trump family uh-huh quid pro quo the president wanted to make sure Ukraine was investigating corruption and that corruption went back to two thousand sixteen and that corruption went back to one hundred Biden getting on the board and advice in private and not running to the media when he disagreed he wouldn't have had to use these third parties but it was the deep state bureaucracy that required him to do it and in fact we now have a new is the president is absolutely convinced people inside government were undermining him the president is absolutely convinced that the Democrats used government to try to block him in two thousand sixteen in the White House to protect Hunter Biden for prosecution had the president had people around him who weren't trying to sabotage him but were instead giving him their candidate and honest to change it just like he wanted to move the embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv when everyone said it was impossible it would cause war it would cause mass terror it would cause all sorts of problems the USA power is not a crime impeachable under the constitution that's actually met whitaker the former attorney general that was a point he was making today on TV that's that's not a good defense the good defenses that the bureaucracy is now admitting it's trying to undermine the president so the president had to operate outside normal channels because they're not actually making that defense they should be making that defense I think that depends games them sympathy among some Republicans who might otherwise be willing to impeach them he didn't know who he can trust and that's not his fault that's their fault but you know they're not doing this that that's that's kind of the crazy thing here it doesn't necessarily help and everything either it doesn't necessarily help in everything because the president did in fact the president can say it was all because he had heard through third parties that Joe Biden had committed corruption while in office but there's a Taylor says Gordon sunlen toting the president said unless you create investigates Joe Biden I'm not giving them the money and that looks bad you until Joe Biden announced he was running for president and only then did he care about the by an issue and so there will problem here with the timeline that the president's team is going to have to get around and that problem with the timeline is very simply that the president didn't care about this issue the articles of impeachment one of the articles of impeachment was that Richard Nixon abused his power to pressure others president tried to persuade foreign leaders to involve themselves in the twenty twenty election and there will be members of Congress who say that is an abuse of power remember with Nixon Larry to that I'd like to add the following didn't the Barack Obama administration used taxpayer dollars for an league Gainesville Tom Welcome good morning how are you I'm doing great and I really appreciate what you've just been saying and as a coral people who look at that and say this isn't about corruption this is about Joe Biden and if it's about Joe Biden and a son about corruption it becomes about the text the word show two three three seven seven seven you'll also be able to go to YouTube dot com slash e w Erickson and get it right now I want to go to the phones at Tom's been waiting patient are they see it I I do think it ties together all the loosens better I will put it out there on the podcasts as stand alone if you want it us and bogus evidence paid for by Clinton and the DNC without that illicit investigation there would be no re unprecedented secret investigation against a political adversary that included US and foreign intelligence assets and a bogey investigate his political opponents by the way if you want my defensive the president and I am going to pass it on to friends of mine and the White House Obama Administration were tipped off to the steele dossier and that allowed them to make certain assumptions about trump and to involve themselves in certain ways in investigate according to God's word and Sunland aol according to Bill Taylor reporting on Gordon Linda I realize it's hearsay but we're not in a court of law this is acceptable to investigators to begin an investigation investigation that it was fabricated so it's it's a fake tape that exists and we know that this stuff existed we know that people made up evidence about the hey think this administration needs to build this case out and make an overarching interpretation of president including this whole p. tape nonsense and that the Obama Administration when they heard this information every single thing president trump did in fact Strong everything together in a way that they can articulated common defense you still have an outside legal team you've got an inside team you've got the within the administration and in fact if you don't believe him hey anonymous wrote an op ed saying they're trying to undermine him from within the White House they're still not building or still have not built a comprehensive war room dealing with impeachment they still have not in incredible A. We don't have confirmed confirmation that the Obama Administration actually spend any money on this stuff what we do know for certain is that parts of the Titan did that is when the president started pushing Ukraine stuff and asking Ukraine the asking Ukraine's president to go before ATV camera with a microphone and say he was investigating Joe Biden is it a good setup for the president president is an agent of Ladimir Putin and it all goes back to the steele dossier and the way the steele dossier shape the Democrats views of the president and we know it's crap you've got to do that is to essentially admit yes the president was running a foreign policy off the books so to speak but it wasn't a foreign policy off the books we know the entirety will see it was made up that's a problem so w- this this is something moving forward where on perception Kinda kinda thrown them for a loop Taylor is is really hard to go after credibly because of his reputation he the president's team didn't help them and yet every single core belief of the Democrats in every way that they view every action of the president has in turn been interpreted as the the of what happened they need to tie it all together and they're not a this is one reason I my understanding is that he you should know that he is a Republican which I would have never guessed given his gun August now in fact the whole thing an excuse me if you've got kids in the car with your whatnot we know the PTA exists but we also now know from the Muller because he was doing Russia's interest it was because he was doing what he thought was in the best interest of the country and the Democrats continued constantly to undermine him albums is in fact he did not care about the Biden issue until Joe Biden became a Democratic Front runner against him and the moment able to make the case for running for president of the United States yet here's the story yes from politico sorry I closed the League yes the the CEO of Dick Sporting goods would like to run for president of the United States and surprisingly it's not a good look for the president and it raises all sorts of questions and tons of questions will be raised about why Bill Taylor was not briefed in detail was then viewed in that frame I would argue it's still ongoing we now know that the president and his team never helped the Russia we know the Russians wanted interfere in the election but we know Bentley ed stack is named the CEO of Dick Sporting goods he's a longtime republican donor he's testing the waters for a third party presidential bid including stack and heavily focused on his example of showing leadership by halting the sale of assault style rifles assault style and stuff I'm trying to where did this report go the politico has the story that he wants to run for president season at all for trump to be looking into these matters would there you see this is exactly the point and I think the president needs to lead this into there is legal advisers and they're not all sitting around table on a daily basis trying to get together And push out points on the bill Taylor stuff my understanding as well is that the Taylor you can call in eight seven seven nine seven Eric eight seven seven nine seven three seven four to five is the full number if you WANNA call in to the program we do trump in this is a Tom I think this is the nugget here that I think the trump administration should seize on for their defense is that win the we know the steele dossier was does that included stack messaging according to a focus group participant the focus group member who presented paperwork to verify participation declined to be named among the questions posed to the that'd be anti-gun let me explain the dynamics of this having run campaigns there are basically twenty will on what happened particularly you know they say they thought he was a source but they gotta make this defense and they're not welcome back yes indeed as you heard we do take calls on this program and you eh possible three way match ups between Donald Trump Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren the focus group according to a source who took part in the testing the ram through varying themes file coinciding with the release of his book it's how we played the game he also took aim at Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell from failing to make headway on gun reform see this Jean the CEO of Dick Sporting goods is looking at running for president. I know I know I know and I'm I'm trying to be charitable here and ED stack didn't look young either Ed Stack didn't have the charisma it would take to attract a coalition the session concluded is the deal killer right here if you're going to run a third party effort to defeat Donald trump you can't short videos of other candidates including Biden Warren and former starbucks CEO Howard Schultz a fellow billionaire who explored a presidential bid but viewed eight or nine stack enjoys running dick sporting goods and has no plans to run for an elected office the message testing told a different story those in the group were shown several and I gotTa tell you given Dick Sporting goods situation with guns and what they did with guns I'm thinking that this guy is not going to actually be is really hard to go after because of e- justice reputation and respect Republican tap for him and I think the way four percent of the public is going to vote overall we when you break down the numbers you wind up getting Republicans have about a percentage point disadvantage there when you further break it down among the leftover people the people only two dozen participants would you be open to voting for a third party candidate not all of the feedback was good focus group members mentioned that Biden's getting the criticism he looks old it'll be some who only vote on a particular core issue there will be some vote only on abortion either pro-lifer pro-abortion there will be some who only vote on the environment and is there will be some who will always third party they will always third party they pride themselves in voting third party there able to win a majority of the popular vote in two thousand sixteen trump won forty six percent against Hillary Clinton the polls have shown consistently below fifty percent a source familiar with stacks thinking says apples at all of Dick's sporting goods stores after the Parkland Florida shooting the prospect of a well-funded third party candidate could have a significant impact in a race where trump is expected to be it could scramble the dynamics no it won't various messages were presented to a focus group in southern Wisconsin this week centering on the billionaire businessman along with three the this is I think it's the best defense the president's got an I admit it's not the best defense because he's got some problems here and one of those she with participants asked to vote on sample ballots that matched up to Stack Biden Donald Trump and then stack elizabeth warren or trump stack has taken on a higher media profile down to essentially you've got to persuade about three to four percent of the overall public to vote for you and the reason being is because we'll twenty four percent of the public they're going to vote hey this is Ross Perot with Bill Clinton and George Bush except problem is e hurts the challenger he doesn't hurt the incumbent so Republicans may want to encourage to run Republicans may actually won a third party challenger there right now to pull votes away from the Democrats particularly Lebed badgered by friends to go vote and they will vote against the president because they don't like the president but if they vote for ed stack in but ed stacks entering the race doesn't help him he can say all day long that he's a Republican the reality though is that Ed Stack helps there are a lot of people out there who do not like Donald Trump who will vote for the Democrat or stay home many of the people who stay home will ultimately they all vote Democrat there will be some who only vote on the issue of guns you gotTa Peel enough people away set of voting for Elizabeth Warren Joe Biden Hillary Clinton they're hurting the Democrat they're not helping the Democrat within a race like this every vote counts literally every single vote counts there are some who have convinced themselves the president if he gets a second term the Democrats because of guns ed stack a gun control advocate of the Second Amendment voters will come out in force against him he will not pull people away from Donald Trump to the we have news we need to get to beyond the bill Taylor situation and we'll circle back to that and the unanimous stuff there's actually a report how this is I find very problem for Ed Stack is if he runs he's not going to get any of the Second Amendment people there are some Second Amendment people out there right now who don't want to vote for the free I'm sorry we can't do that yeah we can't do that that's that's that's a problem that's a problem for the Democrats they are too far left and there are growing signs of two left I played this yesterday we're playing again this is free with the ongoing concern of the democratic radicalism the ongoing concern that the Democrats are two left and they are two left lanes isn't because they're really mad about the bump stock ban and they're really mad that the president was flirting with background checks and they really have convinced themselves and I'm talking about minority people but I in what do you think will happen if one of the more progressive candidates like Warren or Sanders wins the nomination. Well I'm very afraid that they'll lose let's do worst-case scenario on Donald Trump right now let's do worse case scenario and Donald Trump he's impeached in Mitch McConnell side they will go with the President Ed Stack frankly if you're looking at he wants to stop Donald Trump he doesn't want to be president he wants to stop Donald Trump Democrat when you get to break down the voters who also GonNa vote twenty five percent of them will vote Democrat twenty four percent of them will always vote Republican Bernie. I'm talking about in this with Warren and how how college is going to be free how healthcare is going to be I'm thinking that this ain't good for the Democrats if Hillary Clinton gets in whether the I acknowledge that the Democrats are too far left and there is growing concern about them being too far left you here's a voter random voter from Iowa talking to CNN vote Ed's Stack Helps Donald Trump because he deprives Democrats votes they funneled through to the third party candidate the president can win again by losing a majority of the vote the president can win a plurality we need to take it to the Democrats and so- pin says the Republican nominee against Hillary Clinton many of the Republicans who won't vote for Donald Trump suddenly look at my pinson say he's not Clinton and they come back many of the Republicans who say I'll never ever he will betray them on guns and the Ronko to go vote for the Democrats are just going to sit home ed stack entering the race will probably help those people Hillary Clinton Light Is Elizabeth Warren she is as unlikable as Hillary Clinton she may be a little listened the people around her say she extent he pulls people away it's Republicans who were going to hold their nose and vote for a Democrat they'll know go vote for it stack and what does that do that deprives Democrats coaches down Pennsylvania Avenue and says Mr President you gotta go the votes are there in the Senate toss you we can save this thing from Hillary Clinton if you leave and Donald Trump who are both extremely flawed and extremely vulnerable Joe Biden has seemed very rickety on that debate stage he's not raising money the way it should spending too much money doesn't have cash reserves and Elizabeth Warren is to the left of a lot of democratic voters and a lot of general election voters so I think the the panic here is real what sort of silly is the notion that there's a lovely person the people around Elizabeth Warren say she is a good person you just got to get to know her there's the problem she's a very likable lovely person behind the scenes she so warm and funny and charming and we just don't see that on the campaign trail people need to see that on the campaign trail gives a speech and says you know what I made America great again we need to keep making America great again the only way to keep making America great again is for me to step aside and let Mike have it someone out there in the forest who's going to solve all the problems you know who wants to solve the problems I wish I was making it up but I'm not Hillary Clinton okay ever never vote for anyone except Donald Trump they look at I don't want Hillary Clinton so we know from the rules of the Senate and we know Mitch McConnell himself he can't avoid an impeachment trial Mitch McConnell will not be able to avoid die from the New York Times who is a liberals liberal progressive progressive talking about the slate of candidates running for the Democratic nomination donors who are concerned you have two front runners we'll have four more years if trump which I hope doesn't happen an elaborate who you're talking about free stuff I'm talking about it needs to be repeated that the Democrats are going to push this off until January they're going to bring out in the Iowa caucuses just so if you don't understand this and and this this is something that needs to be you need to know the and now Democrats are coming out and confirming that what I was told last week and told you guys was right which means the impeachment trial will be January ran a terrible campaign and most Americans dislike and now she's looking at the Democrats floundering around and she's going to get in but there's Hillary Clinton light this is the exact same thing it'd be hard to do and yet they're going to try no as we moved was so different from prior administrations decided to obstruct him it was not that the president is a tool of Russia. It's that this president decided that other presidents had gotten it wrong and the impeachment of the president it'll happen closer to Christmas as I've been telling you people ridiculed me for saying so I'm telling you it's going to happen closer to Christmas essays or not listen there are remember in Twenty Sixteen Hillary Clinton lost she ran a terrible campaign the Russians didn't steal the election that's the same thing they said about Hillary Clinton the exact same thing this about Hillary Clinton was you just have to get to know her if you get to know her you'll like Oy an impeachment trial he must have an impeachment trial that'll happen caucuses are different from primaries in a primary what happens is if you're listening pretty much anywhere in the nation you have a primary forward with this situation the Democrats of course are going to drag out a piece but I and I told you all this yesterday and I know it sounds like a broken record but very you go on election day and you cast a ballot and that's that's what you do that that's what you do you go cast a ballot in and then you go home you're done it takes you depending on the line and can take you ten minutes if you live in Dekalb county it can take you five hours because they're incompetent and and it it's the Democrats dissipate Kamla Harris can't participate Bernie Sanders can't to participate advantage Joe Biden advantage four hours and here's the thing if the impeachment trial happens during the Caucuses Elizabeth Warren can't far different with the caucus the candidates barnstorm the CA- barnstorm the state knocking on doors getting you do that they're all the precincts of all of the counties of the State of Iowa in your caucus you're there for hours you're there for Elizabeth Warren and I really want you what can I do to get you to go to the caucus and the candidate will try to persuade particularly in Iowa the candidate Oh biden maybe Pete Buttigieg to maybe advantage to him if the impeachment trial spills over into January that's time on the ground because the rules of the Senate say historic it gets up and speaks in Russian they don't understand what he's saying the fallback surrogate speaks in Kaikan they don't understand that either finally the third person speaks up and says green new deal says she likes Walpole House so will you please vote for Elizabeth Warren and all of the candidates stand up they make the pitches Bernie Sanders candidate gets awesome and that's Bernie Sanders Pitch Joe Biden's person gets up and says I was Barack Obama's vice presidential candidate and I was his vice president got the Presidential Medal of freedom sold me and the knock on doors and say will you go to the caucus will you support my candidate. Let's say let's just useless with war yes I will go I will go to the caucus and support Elizabeth Warren I Elizabeth Warren Buffett back let me walk over here now and and be with the Warren Camp instead up Lo and behold Elizabeth Warren has the largest crowd of people in the caucus she wins this precinct commit to go to caucuses and then they have field operatives in the field operatives collect the names essentially you do a door to door operation so the candidate or the candidate's surrogates go door to door and precipitate in the Senate impeachment trial in a very particular way how so I'll tell you when we come back I tell you I to snow on the ground already and you gotta be there all night when you go to the caucus you sit in a room and the candidates make their pitches but it's not the candidates it's the candidate surrogate so then you follow up the next week and you say you said you would go to the caucus here's the address where the caucus is going to be and you do that to everyone the thousands of people who've said they'll go payments but no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present that is Article One arm and she's trying it and she's coming across all including by the way this week saying she loves waffle house when there's no waffle house with any eating within hundreds of miles of where she lives but she very hands on that's what I owe expects so you convince them to go so they go to the caucus meeting it is at night it is at a schoolhouse it is snowing outside with with the Georgia legislature convenient in January you're going to want to be on there because I'll be sending out text messages to you an email saying hey you need to call legislature now providing you this but here's the thing what exactly does the Senate do let me read you more precisely the action to of the Constitution and It is a rather big deal that it is the Senate that does the you know you funnel them off in the candidate themselves may call the presidential candidate who's also by this time gotta worry about New Hampshire South Carolina is going to call and say hello that an impeachment trial requires the presence of the senators every day six days a week beginning at noon in the Senate why because the senators counties of the state they divide up in the room and who has the most people and while they're doing this you say there aren't enough people in my inter- I better fool thing The Senate shall have the sole power to trial impeachments when sitting for that purpose there shall be an oath reformation when the president of the United States is tried the chiefs follow up with the address and the date and the time on the week before the caucus you follow up and say hey you said you were going to go just WanNa make sure you're still going to go yes or no and it went into operation in seventeen eighty nine and so it was eight years after the constitution was initially enacted need the if you read Article One an impeachment in fact let me Article One impeachment constitution let me read you the for that particular area and they come in and say I want you to vote for Elizabeth Warren I realized she is thoroughly disliked on the campaign trail and she's not very language that the United States Constitution says quote the Senate shall have the sole power to try all in p they wrote and what we discover is that the very first impeachments began and in seventeen ninety seven not too long after this country the phone number and all as legislation advances or does not advance in the Georgia legislature so text army two three three seven seven seven sign up to being activists when the again is where we get the idea that the president of the United States cannot be indicted while he is sitting president of the United States but what happens what would alson it so the way we learn what they intended by impeachment is we look to see what the founders of the country did when they were elected under the constitution articles of impeachment and then members of the House of Representatives were appointed to try the case before the Senate and the senator said as jurors in just like in any trial old and they all make their pitch and so then the the actual people who are at the caucuses they've heard the pitches from the candidates and the pitches are fairly uniform throughout all of the precincts of all of the advocation to hold and enjoy any office of honor trust or profit under the United States but the party convicted John over the less be liable and subject to indictment according to the wall daddy they do well the founders of our republic many of them participated in drafting the constitution and upon drafting the constitution many of them went into the AUB in writing the constitution and what did they recommend and how did they do it well the senators said as jurors that the constitution that they began doing impeachments and there were a number of individuals in the car in the a congress who had been in became a country and we started using the constitution instead of the articles of confederation and win that happened again all the jurors have to be there everyday listening to the testimony they didn't have the right to question they had to sit there passively and listened the entire time while others made the case and it was a two five Thank you for joining a buddy of mine just sent me this clip during the commercial break a kid at an NBA game They're doing the little dance the Senate that acted as jurors if you've ever sat on a jury that's what the Senate will do and that's why they've gotta be there every single day they can't miss to go campaign hello there welcome just like your meat you're going to want to be involved here's what the Senate does in an impeachment trial it is a very particular role in fact you know if you shirt for his team and then flips it around quickly and it is a it's a shirt to stand with Hongkong scam thing where they show all the kids in the audience were dancing around during the game and the kids are holding up different shirts for their favorite players they go to one kid who holds up his sal shoppers I'd and no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present judgment in cases of impeachment shall not exceed further than removal from office and a fight for freedom stand with Hongkong it says it's absolutely it's out the clippers game it's absolutely hilarious to watch the kid he's got the super shirt and immediately turns around and says stand fight for freedom stand with Hongkong and you could see the cameraman jerk the camera to get away for the Nike makes six billion dollars a year in China the ABA makes billions of dollars a year in China all these other American companies make money in in China speaking a Lebron James last night he stormed away during the national anthem most popular team in China so that was the first thing he should have thought about like I'm not just speaking for myself I'm speaking for the entire rockets organization and the House of Representatives tried the case before them in other words the House of Representatives set a grand jury and collected a bunch of evidence and built in America is free speech allowed to say what we want to say and we're allowed to speak up about injustices and as goes and people don't understand that deal I got issues with what Charles Barkley said I got it I understand his position that why is it that the NBA is aid and people are wondering if China put him up to it. Listen first of all I gotta I gotTA commend people for continuing to keep the story alive stories if anybody else had sent a tweet it probably would we would raise them out browse but because the Houston Rockets affiliation with Yao Ming I do and people are badgering the NBA here because of how the NBA responded they but they are focusing on apple you know Tim Cook of Apple uh-huh danced off the daily caller has this video up of him last night walking away while the national anthem is still being played China why is it up to the NBA Adam Silver Lebron James to ruin their financial situation when all these other companies are allowed to make money of Lebron James and the NBA wall I on a problem because the rockets Apopka most popular team borough mortgages right whenever you see something wrong going on anywhere in the world you should have the right 'cause I that's not right and that's what he did and but but again you know when it comes to business good for Shaquille O'Neal for pointing that out now Charles Barkley has come out in defense of the conversation Charles Barkley rises to the defense it's quick it's awesome man I'm so proud of people who are continuing to do this thing Shaquille O'Neal has now stood up hold on it would privately kind of agree with what he's saying we live in an age where people is the general manager can do this when clearly people will presume he speaking for the team he should understand the fallout and he shouldn't have done it I get that sure but I thought what happened to the browns unfair because Lebron was caught in the middle for three reasons number one the Brian makes a

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"HEY MSNBC LISTENER Steve Kornacki here host of the podcast article two inside impeachment asked a historic resolution setting the ground rules for the impeachment process if you've ticks what we can expect as the inquiry moves forward so stay right here enjoyed the episode and from NBC News. Oh Memphis week in the impeachment drama for two reasons I'm shell testimony tonight for the first assault purple heart recipient wounded in Iraq corroborating others who've testified this was a vind men then men was one of four witnesses who appeared before Congress this week they would want him to come and testify they plainly don't no question critical one donald trump's fate rests not with an impartial jury of his peers but all this accumulating testimony of vote in the House a resolution to affirm unfair Americans get fairness they instinctively know this unfair and partisan process donald trump is ultimately removed from office it will only be because there are Republicans on article two Kristen Welker is a White House correspondent busy by the standards of Washington Impeachment and the era we live indeed it Monday he didn't end up showing up lawmakers didn't hear from him that's because there's now actually a court case going could end up amounting to evidence for the impeachment inquiry it is also I think the work of a CO equal branch of government is that what we learned this week with Kupperman that if you're inquiry that way I think that Adam Schiff has consistently said this is telling me not to testify you are telling me I have to appear make the final decision here but yes both sides are going to pounce on this Stephen we're seeing Adam declined to appear they also share a lawyer right so does the fact that I think to submit their briefs by November fourteenth so we still are waiting the outcome week saying that he's not willing to appear voluntarily they're basically taking the same sort vim and Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Ven- The a career military officer part of the National Vinh men was significant for a couple of reasons one he what he heard on the call the fact that you had the president essentially pressing or asking according to those who were in the room made the case that before that his had been removed including a reference to the Biden's part of the statement by the Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham who said the media is reporting that Lieutenant Colonel Alexander to sort of put an end to any debate over that but again the reports Morrison Tim Morrison testifying on Thursday who is Tim Morrison to more than just resigned of how it was processed by Washington because I saw Democrats touting some aspects Morrison who by the way was the second White House official to actually say that he was on July twenty berate the testimony of Bill Taylor Bill Taylor the top diplomat in Ukraine but he really laid out a very vivid picture of the president it didn't take place so here you have Tim Morrison this week saying yes that is true say is nothing illegal happened and he said that idea of the transcript being are going to really focus on there is nothing illegal about it I've been talking to White House officials because what Democrats are trying to determine and really the question before Congress truly the question before them so most as if to Morrison is saying look I can't wait all right now let's move my favorite part the politics we had a vote this week my favorite part along party lines every Republican voted against it every Democrat voted Ford except for and ninety six the resolution is adopted without objection the motion to I think this is it it underscores how sharply divided our country is right now our politics concerned Mitt Romney chief among them but you don't see a groundswell of support Republicans are staunchly standing with President trump you saw that yesterday on the House floor. CVS

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"HEY MSNBC LISTENER Steve Kornacki here host of the podcast article two inside impeachment asked a historic resolution setting the ground rules for the impeachment process if you've ticks what we can expect as the inquiry moves forward so stay right here enjoyed the episode and from NBC News. Oh Memphis week in the impeachment drama for two reasons I'm shell testimony tonight for the first assault purple heart recipient wounded in Iraq corroborating others who've testified this was a vind men then men was one of four witnesses who appeared before Congress this week they would want him to come and testify they plainly don't no question critical one donald trump's fate rests not with an impartial jury of his peers but all this accumulating testimony of vote in the House a resolution to affirm unfair Americans get fairness they instinctively know this unfair and partisan process donald trump is ultimately removed from office it will only be because there are Republicans on article two Kristen Welker is a White House correspondent busy by the standards of Washington Impeachment and the era we live indeed it Monday he didn't end up showing up lawmakers didn't hear from him that's because there's now actually a court case going could end up amounting to evidence for the impeachment inquiry it is also I think the work of a CO equal branch of government is that what we learned this week with Kupperman that if you're inquiry that way I think that Adam Schiff has consistently said this is telling me not to testify you are telling me I have to appear make the final decision here but yes both sides are going to pounce on this Stephen we're seeing Adam declined to appear they also share a lawyer right so does the fact that I think to submit their briefs by November fourteenth so we still are waiting the outcome week saying that he's not willing to appear voluntarily they're basically taking the same sort vim and Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Ven- The a career military officer part of the National Vinh men was significant for a couple of reasons one he what he heard on the call the fact that you had the president essentially pressing or asking according to those who were in the room made the case that before that his had been removed including a reference to the Biden's part of the statement by the Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham who said the media is reporting that Lieutenant Colonel Alexander to sort of put an end to any debate over that but again the reports Morrison Tim Morrison testifying on Thursday who is Tim Morrison to more than just resigned of how it was processed by Washington because I saw Democrats touting some aspects Morrison who by the way was the second White House official to actually say that he was on July twenty berate the testimony of Bill Taylor Bill Taylor the top diplomat in Ukraine but he really laid out a very vivid picture of the president it didn't take place so here you have Tim Morrison this week saying yes that is true say is nothing illegal happened and he said that idea of the transcript being are going to really focus on there is nothing illegal about it I've been talking to White House officials because what Democrats are trying to determine and really the question before Congress truly the question before them so most as if to Morrison is saying look I can't wait all right now let's move my favorite part the politics we had a vote this week my favorite part along party lines every Republican voted against it every Democrat voted Ford except for and ninety six the resolution is adopted without objection the motion to I think this is it it underscores how sharply divided our country is right now our politics concerned Mitt Romney chief among them but you don't see a groundswell of support Republicans are staunchly standing with President trump you saw

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21:08 min | 11 months ago

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"HEY MSNBC LISTENER Steve Kornacki here host of the podcast article two inside impeachment asked a historic resolution setting the ground rules for the impeachment process if you've ticks what we can expect as the inquiry moves forward so stay right here enjoyed the episode and from NBC News. Oh Memphis week in the impeachment drama for two reasons I'm shell testimony tonight for the first assault purple heart recipient wounded in Iraq corroborating others who've testified this was a vind men then men was one of four witnesses who appeared before Congress this week they would want him to come and testify they plainly don't no question medical one donald trump's fate rests not with an impartial jury of his peers but all this accumulating testimony of vote in the House a resolution to affirm unfair Americans get fairness they instinctively know this unfair and partisan process donald trump is ultimately removed from office it will only be because there are Republicans on article two Kristen Welker is a White House correspondent busy by the standards of Washington Impeachment and the era we live indeed it Monday he didn't end up showing up lawmakers didn't hear from him that's because there's now actually a court case going could end up amounting to evidence for the impeachment inquiry it is also I think the work of a CO equal branch of government is that what we learned this week with Kupperman that if you're inquiry that way I think that Adam Schiff has consistently said this is telling me not to testify you are telling me I have to appear make the final decision here but yes both sides are going to pounce on this Stephen we're seeing Adam declined to appear they also share a lawyer right so does the fact that I think to submit their briefs by November fourteenth so we still are waiting the outcome week saying that he's not willing to appear voluntarily they're basically taking the same sort vim and Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Ven- The a career military officer part of the National Vinh men was significant for a couple of reasons one he what he heard on the call the fact that you had the president essentially pressing or asking according to those who were in the room made the case that before that his had been removed including a reference to the Biden's part of the statement by the Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham who said the media is reporting that Lieutenant Colonel Alexander to sort of put an end to any debate over that but again the reports Morrison Tim Morrison testifying on Thursday who is Tim Morrison to more than just resigned of how it was processed by Washington because I saw Democrats touting some aspects Morrison who by the way was the second White House official to actually say that he was on July twenty berate the testimony of Bill Taylor Bill Taylor the top diplomat in Ukraine but he really laid out a very vivid picture of the president it didn't take place so here you have Tim Morrison this week saying yes that is true say is nothing illegal happened and he said that idea of the transcript being are going to really focus on there is nothing illegal about it I've been talking to White House officials because what Democrats are trying to determine and really the question before Congress truly the question before them so most as if to Morrison is saying look I can't wait all right now let's move my favorite part the politics we had a vote this week my favorite part along party lines every Republican voted against it every Democrat voted Ford except for and ninety six the resolution is adopted without objection the motion to I think this is it it underscores how sharply divided our country is right now our politics concerned Mitt Romney chief among them but you don't see a groundswell of support Republicans are staunchly standing with President trump you saw that yesterday on the House floor. CVS

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The 11th Hour with Brian Williams

21:08 min | 11 months ago

Party Lines

"HEY MSNBC LISTENER Steve Kornacki here host of the podcast article two inside impeachment asked a historic resolution setting the ground rules for the impeachment process if you've ticks what we can expect as the inquiry moves forward so stay right here enjoyed the episode and from NBC News. Oh Memphis week in the impeachment drama for two reasons I'm shell testimony tonight for the first assault purple heart recipient wounded in Iraq corroborating others who've testified this was a vind men then men was one of four witnesses who appeared before Congress this week they would want him to come and testify they plainly don't no question critical one donald trump's fate rests not with an impartial jury of his peers but all this accumulating testimony of vote in the House a resolution to affirm unfair Americans get fairness they instinctively know this unfair and partisan process donald trump is ultimately removed from office it will only be because there are Republicans on article two Kristen Welker is a White House correspondent busy by the standards of Washington Impeachment and the era we live indeed it Monday he didn't end up showing up lawmakers didn't hear from him that's because there's now actually a court case going could end up amounting to evidence for the impeachment inquiry it is also I think the work of a CO equal branch of government is that what we learned this week with Kupperman that if you're inquiry that way I think that Adam Schiff has consistently said this is telling me not to testify you are telling me I have to appear make the final decision here but yes both sides are going to pounce on this Stephen we're seeing Adam declined to appear they also share a lawyer right so does the fact that I think to submit their briefs by November fourteenth so we still are waiting the outcome week saying that he's not willing to appear voluntarily they're basically taking the same sort vim and Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Ven- The a career military officer part of the National Vinh men was significant for a couple of reasons one he what he heard on the call the fact that you had the president essentially pressing or asking according to those who were in the room made the case that before that his had been removed including a reference to the Biden's part of the statement by the Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham who said the media is reporting that Lieutenant Colonel Alexander to sort of put an end to any debate over that but again the reports Morrison Tim Morrison testifying on Thursday who is Tim Morrison to more than just resigned of how it was processed by Washington because I saw Democrats touting some aspects Morrison who by the way was the second White House official to actually say that he was on July twenty berate the testimony of Bill Taylor Bill Taylor the top diplomat in Ukraine but he really laid out a very vivid picture of the president it didn't take place so here you have Tim Morrison this week saying yes that is true say is nothing illegal happened and he said that idea of the transcript being are going to really focus on there is nothing illegal about it I've been talking to White House officials because what Democrats are trying to determine and really the question before Congress truly the question before them so most as if to Morrison is saying look I can't wait all right now let's move my favorite part the politics we had a vote this week my favorite part along party lines every Republican voted against it every Democrat voted Ford except for and ninety six the resolution is adopted without objection the motion to I think this is it it underscores how sharply divided our country is right now our politics concerned Mitt Romney chief among them but you don't see a groundswell of support Republicans are staunchly standing with President trump you saw that yesterday on

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The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell

21:08 min | 11 months ago

Party Lines

"HEY MSNBC LISTENER Steve Kornacki here host of the podcast article two inside impeachment asked a historic resolution setting the ground rules for the impeachment process if you've ticks what we can expect as the inquiry moves forward so stay right here enjoyed the episode and from NBC News. Oh Memphis week in the impeachment drama for two reasons I'm shell testimony tonight for the first assault purple heart recipient wounded in Iraq corroborating others who've testified this was a vind men then men was one of four witnesses who appeared before Congress this week they would want him to come and testify they plainly don't no question critical one donald trump's fate rests not with an impartial jury of his peers but all this accumulating testimony of vote in the House a resolution to affirm unfair Americans get fairness they instinctively know this unfair and partisan process donald trump is ultimately removed from office it will only be because there are Republicans on article two Kristen Welker is a White House correspondent busy by the standards of Washington Impeachment and the era we live indeed it Monday he didn't end up showing up lawmakers didn't hear from him that's because there's now actually a court case going could end up amounting to evidence for the impeachment inquiry it is also I think the work of a CO equal branch of government is that what we learned this week with Kupperman that if you're inquiry that way I think that Adam Schiff has consistently said this is telling me not to testify you are telling me I have to appear make the final decision here but yes both sides are going to pounce on this Stephen we're seeing Adam declined to appear they also share a lawyer right so does the fact that I think to submit their briefs by November fourteenth so we still are waiting the outcome week saying that he's not willing to appear voluntarily they're basically taking the same sort vim and Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Ven- The a career military officer part of the National Vinh men was significant for a couple of reasons one he what he heard on the call the fact that you had the president essentially pressing or asking according to those who were in the room made the case that before that his had been removed including a reference to the Biden's part of the statement by the Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham who said the media is reporting that Lieutenant Colonel Alexander to sort of put an end to any debate over that but again the reports Morrison Tim Morrison testifying on Thursday who is Tim Morrison to more than just resigned of how it was processed by Washington because I saw Democrats touting some aspects Morrison who by the way was the second White House official to actually say that he was on July twenty berate the testimony of Bill Taylor Bill Taylor the top diplomat in Ukraine but he really laid out a very vivid picture of the president it didn't take place so here you have Tim Morrison this week saying yes that is true say is nothing illegal happened and he said that idea of the transcript being are going to really focus on there is nothing illegal about it I've been talking to White House officials because what Democrats are trying to determine and really the question before Congress truly the question before them so most as if to Morrison is saying look I can't wait all right now let's move my favorite part the politics we had a vote this week my favorite part along party lines every Republican voted against it every Democrat voted Ford except for and ninety six the resolution is adopted without objection the motion to I think this is it it underscores how sharply divided our country is right now our politics concerned Mitt Romney chief among them but you don't see a groundswell of support Republicans are staunchly standing with President trump you saw

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The Beat with Ari Melber

21:08 min | 11 months ago

Party Lines

"HEY MSNBC LISTENER Steve Kornacki here host of the podcast article two inside impeachment asked a historic resolution setting the ground rules for the impeachment process if you've ticks what we can expect as the inquiry moves forward so stay right here enjoyed the episode and from NBC News. Oh Memphis week in the impeachment drama for two reasons I'm shell testimony tonight for the first assault purple heart recipient wounded in Iraq corroborating others who've testified this was a vind men then men was one of four witnesses who appeared before Congress this week they would want him to come and testify they plainly don't no question critical one donald trump's fate rests not with an impartial jury of his peers but all this accumulating testimony of vote in the House a resolution to affirm unfair Americans get fairness they instinctively know this unfair and partisan process donald trump is ultimately removed from office it will only be because there are Republicans on article two Kristen Welker is a White House correspondent busy by the standards of Washington impeachment and the era we live indeed it Monday he didn't end up showing up lawmakers didn't hear from him that's because now actually a court case going could end up amounting to evidence for the impeachment inquiry it is also I think the work of a CO equal branch of government is that what we learned this week with Kupperman that if you're inquiry that way I think that Adam Schiff has consistently said this is telling me not to testify you are telling me I have to appear make the final decision here but yes both sides are going to pounce on this Stephen we're seeing Adam declined to appear they also share a lawyer right so does the fact that I think to submit their briefs by November fourteenth so we still are waiting the outcome week saying that he's not willing to appear voluntarily they're basically taking the same sort vim and Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Ven- The a career military officer part of the National Vinh men was significant for a couple of reasons one he what he heard on the call the fact that you had the president essentially pressing or asking according to those who were in the room made the case that before that his had been removed including a reference to the Biden's part of the statement by the Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham who said the media is reporting that Lieutenant Colonel Alexander to sort of put an end to any debate over that but again the reports Morrison Tim Morrison testifying on Thursday who is Tim Morrison to more than just resigned of how it was processed by Washington because I saw Democrats touting some aspects Morrison who by the way was the second White House official to actually say that he was on July twenty berate the testimony of Bill Taylor Bill Taylor the top diplomat in Ukraine but he really laid out a very vivid picture of the president it didn't take place so here you have Tim Morrison this week saying yes that is true say is nothing illegal happened and he said that idea of the transcript being are going to really focus on there is nothing illegal about it I've been talking to White House officials because what Democrats are trying to determine and really the question before Congress truly the question before them so most as if to Morrison saying look I can't wait all right now let's move my favorite part the politics we had a vote this week my favorite part along party lines every Republican voted against it every Democrat voted Ford except for and ninety six the resolution is adopted without objection the motion to I think this is it it underscores how sharply divided our country is right now our politics concerned Mitt Romney chief among them but you don't see a groundswell of support Republicans are staunchly standing with President trump you saw that yesterday on the House floor. CVS Kevin leaders who are essentially sounding a lot like president trump in their opposition to S. thirty seven days and counting the have run an unprecedented the case that constitution says the House has sole power over impeachment that they held this vote he is saying that he thinks a lot of these Republicans who voted against this inquiry voting to impeach him when it finally comes to it does that strike you you have a good sense of this does that strike once these hearings are out in the open what we have seen Stevens we've seen more Americans and frankly even more Republicans say yes we at least support the inquiry now can lawmakers but think about once they go home to their home districts for those who live difficult for them to break with the president so I think there's a real question mark that could be saying some of this stuff for the American people to hear me ask you to put on your head explicitly as the vote how are they processing the evidence the testimony that emerged you know you can always and I have to say there hasn't been this week there certainly have been a number of high level meetings and so they've sort of gone back into that mode they say they feel as though the president's out all of what he sees to be his accomplishments so they've gone back into they know that they need to be a little bit more agile and ready when it comes to the substance with phone call and so that's not going to change but I would say inst- team we've got a beef up our rapid response team to some extent all right Kristen welker white he preparing all weekend and right up until the debate gridlock with it thanks Steve Own we have another listener question the close out the week Allen in Somerset New Jersey asked a recording cited to put this question to Kristin before we hung up it is in part because of what they are discussing his is classified typically what happens held notes and so you do get what is close to a transcript and to a transcript the question though is does Ukraine have a recording it's quite possible that they Shinzo looms over this I don't want to suggest we have any evidence to point to things interesting but I wanted to know whether it's normal for a White House not to record conversations okay how you doing all right great to talk to you I wanna kind of broadened things out with you and just this all presidents from Franklin Roosevelt through Richard Nixon taped private conversations court meetings largely like the Cuban Missile Crisis Lyndon Johnson did it because he wanted tape conversations that would show him to be a great president that he could put we want to know if you're guilty or not and the result of course is the smoking gun tape stations Gerald Ford even had the microphones dug

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21:08 min | 11 months ago

Party Lines

"HEY MSNBC LISTENER Steve Kornacki here host of the podcast article two inside impeachment asked a historic resolution setting the ground rules for the impeachment process if you've ticks what we can expect as the inquiry moves forward so stay right here enjoyed the episode and from NBC News. Oh Memphis week in the impeachment drama for two reasons I'm shell testimony tonight for the first assault purple heart recipient wounded in Iraq corroborating others who've testified this was a vind men then men was one of four witnesses who appeared before Congress this week they would want him to come and testify they plainly don't no question critical one donald trump's fate rests not with an impartial jury of his peers but all this accumulating testimony of vote in the House a resolution to affirm unfair Americans get fairness they instinctively know this unfair and partisan process donald trump is ultimately removed from office it will only be because there are Republicans on article two Kristen Welker is a White House correspondent busy by the standards of Washington impeachment and the era we live indeed it Monday he didn't end up showing up lawmakers didn't hear from him that's because now actually a court case going could end up amounting to evidence for the impeachment inquiry it is also I think the work of a CO equal branch of government is that what we learned this week with Kupperman that if you're inquiry that way I think that Adam Schiff has consistently said this is telling me not to testify you are telling me I have to appear make the final decision here but yes both sides are going to pounce on this Stephen we're seeing Adam declined to appear they also share a lawyer right so does the fact that I think to submit their briefs by November fourteenth so we still are waiting the outcome week saying that he's not willing to appear voluntarily they're basically taking the same sort vim and Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Ven- The a career military officer part of the National Vinh men was significant for a couple of reasons one he what he heard on the call the fact that you had the president essentially pressing or asking according to those who were in the room made the case that before that his had been removed including a reference to the Biden's part of the statement by the Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham who said the media is reporting that Lieutenant Colonel Alexander to sort of put an end to any debate over that but again the reports Morrison Tim Morrison testifying on Thursday who is Tim Morrison to more than just resigned of how it was processed by Washington because I saw Democrats touting some aspects Morrison who by the way was the second White House official to actually say that he was on July twenty berate the testimony of Bill Taylor Bill Taylor the top diplomat in Ukraine but he really laid out a very vivid picture of the president it didn't take place so here you have Tim Morrison this week saying yes that is true say is nothing illegal happened and he said that idea of the transcript being are going to really focus on there is nothing illegal about it I've been talking to White House officials because what Democrats are trying to determine and really the question before Congress truly the question before them so most as if to Morrison saying look I can't wait all right now let's move my favorite part the politics we had a vote this week my favorite part along party lines every Republican voted against it every Democrat voted Ford except for and ninety six the resolution is adopted without objection the motion to I think this is it it underscores how sharply divided our country is right now our politics concerned Mitt Romney chief among them but you don't see a groundswell of support Republicans are staunchly standing with President trump you saw that yesterday on the House floor. CVS Kevin leaders who are essentially sounding a lot like president trump in their opposition to S. thirty seven days and counting the have run an unprecedented the case that constitution says the House has sole power over impeachment that they held this vote he is saying that he thinks a lot of these Republicans who voted against this inquiry voting to impeach him when it finally comes to it does that strike you you have a good sense of this does that strike once these hearings are out in the open what we have seen Stevens we've seen more Americans and frankly even more Republicans say yes we at least support the inquiry now can lawmakers but think about once they go home to their home districts for those who live difficult for them to break with the president so I think there's a real question mark that could be saying some of this stuff for the American people to hear me ask you to put on your head explicitly as the vote how are they processing the evidence the testimony that emerged you know you can always and I have to say there hasn't been this week there certainly have been a number of high level meetings and so they've sort of gone back into that mode they say they feel as though the president's out all of what he sees to be his accomplishments so they've gone back into they know that they need to be a little bit more agile and ready when it comes to the substance with phone call and so that's not going to change but I would say inst- team we've got a beef up our rapid response team to some extent all right Kristen welker white he preparing all weekend and right up until the debate gridlock with it thanks Steve Own we have another listener question the close out the week Allen in Somerset New Jersey asked a recording cited to put this question to Kristin before we hung up it is in part because of what they are discussing his is classified typically what happens held notes and so you do get what is close to a transcript and to a transcript the question though is does Ukraine have a recording it's quite possible that they Shinzo looms over this I don't want to suggest we have any evidence to point to things interesting but I wanted to know whether it's normal for a White House not to record conversations okay how you doing all right great to talk to you I wanna kind of broadened things out with you and just this all presidents from Franklin Roosevelt through Richard Nixon taped private conversations court meetings largely like the Cuban Missile Crisis Lyndon Johnson did it because he wanted tape conversations that would show him to be a great president that he could put we want to know if you're guilty or not and the result of course is the smoking gun tape stations Gerald Ford even had the microphones dug

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I Think It's Crazy

Article II: Inside Impeachment

13:06 min | 1 year ago

I Think It's Crazy

"Then political editor for NBC News Filling in for Steve Kornacki. It's Monday October twenty first and here's what's happening from NBC News this is Article Two inside impeachments I'm Kerry uh cominated ambassador nominated from the Senate it's in this interim acting position and now he's found himself in the middle of this fire probe in this entire scandal involving Ukraine so from retirements straight into the spotlight of the impeachment inquiry we know Taylor has this respected critical to the impeachment inquiry Leeann Caldwell is an NBC News correspondent covering Congress she joins US nations she was part of this smear campaign and so she he came back to fill this role of ambassador and let's just point out he's not actually the official Nah because he was really instrumental and really involved in the Ukraine policy we know that the and he has worked and diplomatic roles for his entire career spanning from the Middle East Eastern Europe did to appear before congressional impeachment investigators tomorrow behind closed doors and he is expected to be kind of likely to be the headliner Bill Taylor the acting ambassador to Ukraine is appearing before three House committees on Tuesday Taylor's name may not ring a Bell Lynch pin for Democrats in their investigation into the president and this entire Ukrainian probe Democrats are hoping that he is able to but you might remember hearing that he called any kind of quid pro quo for military aid to Ukraine quotes crazy the top diplomat and sixty two thousand nine he went on to retire from the government you know he seventy two years old the only reason he's in Ukraine he just has this really long history of service to the United States mostly in the State Department and he is expected tweak for Washington DC two days after getting an official request to appear before Congress so what do we know about Bill Taylor and why is his deposition and track of service but why is his deposition the biggest thing that's happening on the hill this week so Taylor is going to be crucial for Democrats and that's Taylor is a career diplomat he's a graduate from West Point he went on to get his graduate degree from Harvard he's a Vietnam veteran connect all the dots of all the people that they've been hearing in these depositions for the past two and a half weeks so he's the ambassador to Ukraine and he took the from Capitol Hill highly an hi Carey let's just start at the very very top thirty thousand feet who is this man Bill Taylor bill the job most recently this past June but this isn't actually his first time in the job is that right no it's not he was the ambassador to Ukraine from two thousand president and the White House really sidelined all the State Department officials all the people who are supposed to be working on Ukraine for the government and instead put in his president has been crystal clear no quid pro quos of any kind then sunland says stop texting about this Taylor left Ukraine Cream Bill Taylor texts the US ambassador to EU Gordon Sunland and writes this as I said on the phone I think it is crazy to withhold security assistance his position again is because he came back to replace Marie Avanovic she was ousted earlier this year from the trump administration his political allies EU ambassador Sunland special envoy Volker a Giuliani was Rudy Giuliani. His personal lawyer was running this shadow State Department and while all of these people close to the president we're working on this issue there was one career is for help with a political campaign but this time Song Lynn Pushes Back Writing Bill I believe you are incorrect about President trump's intentions diplomat Bill Taylor who was as well and he was very concerned about what was happening there he saw according to attacks messages that he thought that there was a quid pro quo taking place where there was the withholding of military aid and a meeting with the Ukrainian president in exchange for a commitment from the Ukrainian government to investigate the president's political rivals namely Joe Biden and his on so he was an unwitting character who has was superiors like he was trying to do the right thing in this hire scenario and that is why his testimony is going to be so important for Democrats tomorrow you mentioned the text messages and those were huge news they were least earlier this month I think all of us who've been following this read them you know sort of with our with our is big big emoji is reading these text messages as they as we learned about how Bill Taylor was interacting with Gordon Sunland I'm hoping there's two particularly notable exchanges that we learned about and be kind of walk us through how those two specific text exchanges how they played out there's a whole series of text messages between Sunlen Kurt Volker Edge on September first where Taylor says quote are we now saying that security assistance and White House meeting are conditioned on investigate Sion's and then the EU ambassador Sunlen says response just in a simple call me so there's the first instance and Bill Taylor that span weeks we only have a snippet of these text messages that have been released to the media but what from what we know there's a text message message saying bill I believe you are incorrect about President trump's intentions the president has been crystal clear no quid pro right there where it looks like aid to Ukraine is being withheld on the condition of an investigation so that was a critical meant then eight days later on September Ninth Taylor writes quote as I said on the phone I think it's crazy to withhold security assists students for help with a political campaign so that happens and then almost five hours later SOM- Lynn response to that text oh quo for the withholding of nearly four hundred million dollars of security aid to the Ukrainians so I'm I'm glad that you brought up both we walked through both of those but we also know that Gordon Sunland has talked to investigators about these seem to exchanges to right he met with the same investigators behind closed doors casual tone but sunland all of a sudden it becomes very legal ease with very specific words as the president has been crystal clear no what do we know about what Gordon Sunlen says he was saying to Bill Taylor maybe filling in the gaps that five hour gap between those two text messages and also what Oh quos of any kind so those are the essence of what is Democrats are investigating are as their equipment Lynch said that the president was not in a good mood he said that the president and told him point blank that there was no quid pro quo on the other hand Bill Taylor was also trying to get on the record that he had very very deep concerns about what was transpiring I think so I think that he's going to be a key witness I think that he knows more than most people own it changed dramatically we have we have pages of text messages between John Lennon Taylor and Kurt Volker where it's a very friendly very quid pro quos of any kind it looks like Sunland was trying to get that on the record where in fact it also looks like happened after he told Taylor to quote call me what do we know about that so far so we know that Sunland in that five hour gap sunland called the president and and so that is what Sawn Lynn responded to Bill Taylor but what's interesting about it is not only the words that's Omlund texted but also the don when all of these characters have said their piece do you think Bill Taylor is going to be one of the names the American people remember about this impeachment inquiry resolution to Censure House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff they say he is misleading the American people in the impeachment inquiry president trump tweeted his support for that thanks each side gets an equal amount of questions that's according to the house rules and they are largely being asked by expert staff hired by the or in this even more important than the whistle blower at the end of the day who we actually might not ever hear from Leeann Caldwell this was associated with John Bolton the national security adviser who had deep reservations about what was happening so bill Taylor all WHO they have spoken to and there's a few reasons for that he was having these conversations with Sunlen and Volker view asked about the role of Republicans in these hearings good question Republicans who are on the committees are allowed to participate in these here in Ukraine so you have seen this this parade of witnesses coming in or at least being subpoenaed Being requested by House Democrats when all of this has said resolution earlier today but Democrats are expected to move to table it's and in our first episode we opened up our in candid conversations with some of my favorite reporters about things we usually discuss off camera listen for free wherever you get your podcast you were everyone else like Ivanovich she was still an outsider they didn't trust her they were trying to get rid of her Fiona Hill the president's Russia adviser way lawmakers some Republicans have also called for the ability to bring rebuttal witnesses forward so far that hasn't happened but members from both parties can we'll shoes I do definitely thanks Carrie another thing to keep an eye on house. Republicans are voting tonight on article two inside impeachment is produced by Isabel Angel Max Jacobs Claire Tie Alison Bailey and Barbara Rob box for you to send questions that you have about the impeachment inquiry on Friday we talked about why the investigation is happening behind closed

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In Defense of Donald Trump

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In Defense of Donald Trump

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It's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind it's pain and it's getting in between you assume there you go problem is that this isn't a trial so hearsay is acceptable to build the evidentiary base so if you're going to respond to this house need to respond well there's a key bit there's a key bit of data in the bill a defense that the White House should latch onto immediately and move forward with the president of the United States has a eighteen of very smart people around him who have not articulated a strong defense of the president beyond it's cutting into your exercise time it stabbing you in the back nine and it's attacking your peace of mind it's pain and it's getting it altogether but a lot of people wanted to hear it as a standalone from the podcast and so I'm pulling this together here now my defense of President Trump Taylor statement let me read you this paragraph this is the right before he talks about his conversation with Tim Morrison who told him about character assassination of those who criticize him and it's hard to do that to bill Taylor Bill Taylor's testimony is I don't necessarily buy everything I'm saying I think there are real concerns including why the president didn't raise Joe Biden with Ukraine until after Joe Biden's any disease hey it's Eric Erickson here and I wanted to offer a defense of the president of the United States on impeachment and I wanna tell you or different sutherland correct when sunland talked to you about the call Sunland didn't mention Joe Biden did he know but some did say there was no quid pro quo correct yes told me that the president said it was not a quid pro quo and that the president of Ukraine needed to clear things up but someone did not tell announced he was running for president a there are deep flaws in the defense but the president's gotta come up with a defense and thus far I don't think his team has built a unified defense between you and the life you want to live CD medic targets your pain at its source it's fast acting relief with active ingredients plus the added benefits of THC free hemp oil get back to your life CD medic available online and at cvs these statements have not been evaluated by the FDA this product is not intended to diagnose treat cure the president's call with Sunland Bill Taylor wrote I had been making and continue to make the point to all of my Ukrainian official context that they should not participate in Taylor that the president wanted Dolinsky in front of a microphone to talk about bite and so all John Radcliffe after do say you don't know that he mentioned Biden do you sixteen election showed how the official foreign policy United States was undercut by the irregular efforts led by Mr Giuliani it is on this paragraph that the president should make his defense let me now we'll do that for you I will make the president's defense you can be convinced her imaging and for all of the puffery of Republicans on TV saying we can't tell you what John Radcliffe did but John Radcliffe undermined Bill Taylor I can tell you exactly what John Radcliffe did because I was you well Morrison told me but you don't know that Morrison told you the will that's correct and Morrison doesn't know it Welson Tony Morrison didn't hear the call did he know he since That kind of connects all the pieces together and I want to try to do that I did this on my radio show while ago I didn't have any notes did it off the top of my head any way of getting drawn into US domestic politics but the push to make presidents alinsky publicly commit to investigations of BURRIS MMA an alleged interference in the twenty unconvinced. I I don't care but I'm telling you it's way better than any of the two Vince is offered thus far by the president's team including Dan Bongino on what Mr Morrison said he had a sinking feeling after learning about this conversation Ma'am Bassett or Sunland. According to Mr Morrison President Trump told ambassadors that he was not asking for a quid pro quo but president trump did or not impeachable did you know that three quarters of all impeachments have been on abuse of power and not on statutory crimes did you know that whitaker apparently did not lawyer who did these sorts of things This is from Bill Taylor's testimony on September seven I had a conversation with Tim Morrison in which you describe phone conversation earlier today between ambassador someone President Hey abuse of power is not a high crime or misdemeanor and therefore as an impeachable that was his actual defense of the president today abuse of power is not a crime and why we know that prior to the election the Democrats already suspected that the president of the United States was in the hands of the Russians and everything they've done since then has been every single thing Donald Trump did through the frame of being bought and paid for by the Russians and it undermined their own credibility and showed a partisan bias against the president there under the belief despite we now know from the Bulla report that the president's team never did coordinate with the Russians even though the Russians wanted to interfere in the election they never did it with the trump campaign sean Hannity who said Taylor never saw the transcript therefore we know more about it than him or Matt Whitaker the former acting attorney general who had the audacity to see let me give you the defense of the President I'm going to turn on my timer so I can time myself on this here we go defending the president of the United States don't say I didn't try the chief executive officer of the United States lawfully elected and sworn in under the electoral college by the Chief Justice of the United States the bureaucracy still told him no is the presence lunacy microphone and say he was opening investigations a bike and then I had a call with embassador sunland on September eighth and a he once the president took office we saw gin time and time again the national security apparatus in the foreign policy apparatus and the intelligence apparatus of the United States the chief justice of the United States and the bureaucracy that is unelected hides behind the civil service law that prevents the president from firing them so what can he do he tried to undermine the president for what because they all believe the worst about the president in part because so many of them were committed to Hillary Clinton and in part because out of those agreements and in fact our emissions have gone down but time and time again every time he's tried to challenge the bureaucracy and the way things have been done in this country the American bureau great when the President on the steering wheel wanted to turn the ship around and the bureaucracy said no even though the president of the United States is the lawfully constitutionally elected officer in foreign policy and the bureaucracy refused to let him do it ineffective bureaucracy tried to hijack the rudder of ship of state and force it to continue national security and intelligence and law enforcement apparatus of the United States government we now know from Peter Struck and Lisa page and James Comb Andrew McCabe that people within the government view but no it wasn't of the president it was a fraudulent document fraudulent video prepared to undermine the president and it was circulated by Democrats and the media and inside the hyman time again every time the president of the United States tried to do something different from his predecessors the bureaucracy tried to obstruct they leaked the transcript with the call of the Mexican the White House it has the audacity to work within the White House to try to undermine the president and refuses to quit or expose himself and yet admits in the New York Times now in this certainly manufactured evidence which we know from the steele dossier was manufactured including the alleged tape which we now know from the mole report actually did exist yes the p. tape existed the president had to go out and find people who would defend him and charter course for foreign policy that the president wanted so he was required at that time and time again anonymous bureaucrats in the White House and the bureaucracy of the United States tried to stop the president from doing things the President Arcus bureaucracy and the media and the Democrats and even some Republicans have underminded him so the president was elected by the people of the United States he was sworn in I hope Russia but to chart a new course for American foreign policy that the bureaucrats within the government were trying to stop him from doing because they did not like it themselves Republican and Democratic administrations along the way had committed to a foreign policy that tracked in one direction with minor variation and president trump wanted to do a one eighty on l. knows from an op Ed in the New York Times that there are anonymous people in his administration trying to undermine him there guys writing a book for God's Sakes we have no idea who it is and that person still to rely on people like Rudy Giuliani to be his direct emissary to individuals in other countries to try to get things done the way he wanted to do now or Biden Obama and the rest of them look at the steele dossier and he wanted to find answers and he couldn't trust the American bureaucracy to do it so we had to trust these other people doing so and did it happened it did not they did the same thing with the Paris accord seeding the media telling them the president was going

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dishes I think both for Christmas and some sponges Yes sponges and happening at the grocery store today to buy Halloween candy and their Christmas decorations up fine with it I and then by the time April march rolls around I'm like come on silver come on yeah she's really cool yes also just a genuinely good person all right so today Tim Morrison testified behind closed doors to the impeachment committees and Giuliani Morrison trump's top Russia aid did corroborate they were withholding aid yes they were withholding White House meetings yes it was an exchange for so we'll see what goes on with that but the important part from this witness is not his opinion add as well so I don't understand how you could you know agree with everything Bill Taylor said yet and not trump that sunlen was rogues on Giuliani or rogue and trump didn't yeah because I'm thinking like the only the question now becomes if this is okay the only people that could decide what is okay and what is not okay in this scenario is did you dishes all right yeah I don't know I know you can sue the president but you don't think otherwise we would have been able to sue for religious purposes for spending our tax ah for climate change climate change actually here's another country's isn't it actually Daca Department of Justice or Department of Homeland Security ice or border the US pulled out of the Paris climate accord so the government here passing agreement yeah even the country do dwarfish the daily United Nations Security Council affirmation yes and after we'll make dream catcher's if the substance of the call got out it would be damaging to trump I guess just politically at the last minute and he appeared he's also said he's resigning but because if you think that trump did nothing wrong why would you leave which but that's because of trump but I mean it's just it doesn't make sense I I hope they asked him the transcript of deposition transcript positions will be released assuming they're okay yeah it's crazy to me that they have to get so many different people to unified yeah I accepting this is valid and happening evidence from the Intelligence Foreign Affairs Oversight Committee's to the judiciary where the articles one hundred four and the resolution passed I really liked it when policy brought the gavel down I was like Ooh and some people didn't know who I was because I I just go under my personal no but it's it was so much fun to just sit there and watch that you have a Democrat line and a Republican line and then others line and so talking points and trump talking points and they seem to be shifting today doesn't clean up the dirty process that's already been tainted and can't ever be fixed you can't fix themselves to any level of integrity than I don't know what is yeah no they're that's their yeah I mean it does the way that they laid out the rules so it does take power away from them right get any rights no you get them you just can't be a dick about it uh-huh you know or you know win the house back elections have consequences you know medical those rules kind of our just in terms of giving Democrats most of the power and I'm all for hiring maybe they know that it's going to die in the Senate and they're kind of accepting that for twenty twenty beneficial for the elections and then for Democrats and then also if you're a republican and you can't you don't have power without clearing it with the with the committee chair other talking point they're going to have is that you can't have an impeachment during an election year election-year it's never happened before okay so then we're back to the shoot somebody you're actually you can and it actually wasn't during election year it was two months before the year even long it's like hockey finals I just when I get a game and said Oh the first votes are going Sudan alarm ain't it like trickles down to like college in Highschool government to I used to do that is like it's such a deeply embedded philosophy in boards where you're going for the next election cycle whatever it is yeah and without term a constitutional amendment and we're just too divided just gotta wait is demon children and raising them as evil and that's the idiosyncrasy plight that's the catch twenty two so yes okay boomer yeah that's what says okay boomer have a terrible day I love you remember that are listening cameras but like keep us out of it seriously just like the decade of walls but always the point that like morbidly there are so many people who are young I'm thirty but the priorities of the people yeah but there are so many like kind on them let's see so or or like I can't believe I'm still protesting the yeah I think that's a myth conservative than you were but but it's just like there are so many and conservative like you know as you grow old more conservative than you're talking about small government and yeah so it's a little different that you know for most of us I love what I what I say we're talking about should he boomers I'm talking about Trickled down economics they're great and specific trickle down boys maybe will trickle down and put it out from like the other fires or we knew that it was such a goal like it's the two voting against the resolution where Peterson van ward very very read districts. Yeah had to be a bipartisan effort and the only bipartisan vote today was against it because I don't know girl match is that it has to be a bipartisan because of maths yes and also the fact that these two people cross over the aisle if I'm because they're pro I mean this way I'm going to hope that they're more in their brains purple and red districts that didn't want to cross that line and we're down to now yeah and you know what like there are people who are some no votes there were some abstentions do something I'm telling you sixty percent by one sixty percent of the public what are not Democrats but certainly aren't trump people and I hope that home runs you get or how many hits you get it's how often you get on base in the impeachment ball is and report Manda sandwiched between two Republican Y You want to sit next to your house the worse Oreo ever just fucking anyway we were asking each other questions and and and he was an example of someone who was like and I hope that Republicans realize that those people in their districts and there I mean I'm hoping there's they might when I wanted to like again note that the vote today doesn't mean impeachment starts today the wording in the resolution resolution and I'm presumably that's Mosh I think it's a mosh yeah based on his twitter today also Republican senators to vote against his impeachment from Alex Eizenstat at politico trump is actively trump is essentially bribing every senator that signed onto that Republican resolution condemning the impeachment inquiry Susan Collins seat is in trouble because of the CAV Haute but she refused to sign onto the impeachment yeah I think it's called women hit perhaps because the rest to donors asking them for contributions that he says he would divide between himself Cory Gardner Joni Ernst okay there's just to help David Perdue and Mitch McConnell with fundraisers next week both who have come out and supported trump and sign that weeded today when weighing whether trump has received due process or not remember to include the fact that he enjoys a right no oh legal for him just you can be like I'm GonNa make it so you don't get if if somebody sued him over it you know I suppose it could be decided by the core of theirs actually might be one of the most level headed arguments for Republicans saying you can't impeach And McConnell has a message for Donald Trump essentially telling him to stop attacking his fellow Republicans because his had a face to face with trump last week and warned him to stop attacking GOP members in the Senate this is Jason Human Scum Opportunity or CIA dehumanize them I I don't know robots as grading see we're too fucking it's it's very weird tilling feel it's their name the finnerty towards the could you know where to find her yeah it's really weird because I used to judge Mitt Romney purely like logical move by McConnell right and his hilarious he needs even tell trump that I you're gonNa Fuck and say today so we are all busting our asses to bend ourselves or pretzels he keeps turning on him I think so too again I think the magic number sixty percent you can put some beans on it norcal family records and documents ancestry Danny gives you so much more than just your family's places of origin reasoned billions of records to give you more detail about your genealogy and the stories of your ancestors and they went to school and even how they got their jobs or what jobs they had I found out I'm related one day but it's really easy to get started I got my results and I was surprised also picture of where you came from so go to ancestry dot com slash daily beans today for twenty percent off your ancestry DNA things happened today and they are both key tests of trump's malinke immunity argument right and we're still fucking litigating Don mcgann so we know government filed the lawsuit supposed to testify Monday actually kind of a cool move I might do it myself if I were ever a crime always places right I have no idea the furthest reference I thought any time that you have to the same you could split you can we're all going to go to a trump casino I've never played poker before in my entire life s. no we never really done a lot of gambling when I was in Vegas for the first time last year played a few Canada fresh table and you lose your first okay goodbye stylized for eight hours drink all night drink like five hundred dollars worth of booze yup because they give you drinks for free and play games she's a new Yeah Oh banners unluck Jairo at beginners unluckier. What's it called I can't remember where you get three immature here yeah what about covered what are we talking about the same lawyer so how Kupperman goes so likely will Bolton from the twitter feed of if he would if if that would interfere with their plans to set a briefing schedule and governments lawyer said seatings so cooper then told the judge that government is not planning to engage on the merits so basically what they're saying is like like if ocean because he wants the judge to be able to settle the dispute so we were Kinda right when we thought he's in a very long time ago what is an injunction stop okay that's like a stop stay stops evidence from being handed over that from a ruling okay yeah statistical impact because on one side you have a table full of house lawyers from from the House of Representatives on the especially since trump wrecked their candidness with the courts by calling back the I am so sorry apologize and list more skepticism from the judge directed at the Justice Department saying there were more raised eyebrows for the trump administration the judge Bo Burnham the judge said she wanted to bring the case things like that and then they would you know talk about the substance if you're nasty number two not buying the Department of Justice argument either if stay on him testifying although you know I don't know I don't see how I mean he's sorry go ahead no go ahead he's GonNa come in and confirm what's already in the Miller report and open for the report so there's no irreparable damage because it's already been released yeah that'd the argument that half the country's illiterate or something but like I wouldn't be surprised had judge Burrell House decision on how stays work but Ross garber and impeachment attorney I personally give this a win for the DEM's seven to a win for America excuse me Bates resoundingly rejected the idea of absolute immunity specifically citing the Nixon case saying Nixon it Congress's power away we may also hear the argument that mcgann wasn't subpoena seatings would take that long alacrity of snail beyond Criti Lacquer Tanta Novel Lincoln I did love that the blue I just said you know the east common clovers really are the best cheers yes inch groups different sexualities it was just like timeless it was sweet cherry pie during the auditions yeah friend of mine she was actually in one of my comedy video yeah about clueless and mean girls yeah totally Classics now God Yeah the Prince Charles at Dick Piercing Oh yeah I think you're right some picture show of the that's also fucking it is you sit at home l. of the little boy that gets murdered sorry if you haven't seen that movie right he gets stabbed to death in the the mass remembering what's the cheerleading movies so I go into really yeah really I mean I was younger I was thirteen I was like nine or eight years old or something this movie's over I think I think this was not the movie I thought it was this happened you can and instead it was the aristocrats he was BLEEP that out forty fourteen she's Emma I really can't if we're talking about seeing the wrong movie stakes yeah I was hanging out with my with wait sorry you said it was your grandmother Emma Yeah Oh God and it penetration they keep it rented are yeah but yeah I saw Bruno do that with my friends grandma just awful cast I think that the sad part that was the follow up the gymnastics follow topping down the hallway before drinking becoming regular adults and we're just losers does he really bring it on in the court I guess that would be so I I don't know it just seems to me like all these court cases way for everyone to testify then we have the muller grand jury materials which could be released ever sometimes everything sort of lines up do and I mean it's been miserable for three years that said Sunland attorney has told reporters did not mention the Biden's in the July tenth meeting or any mentioned any Biden's by name and did not know that Biden was linked to Barista Shen and he's actually amending something else but it doesn't look I thought he was Oh yeah three people gamble Taylor Bill Taylor and him and I think hill to Fiona Hill Back to the scene and not being like grace are here's your stuff sorry Jordan magic you some more insight because he's he's he's a friend of trump you know I him for a pardon I don't know if he

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Trump announces Turkey sanctions amid Syrian bloodshed; Former Trump adviser testifying in impeachment probe; State department official, ambassador set to testify this week; New poll: Warren and Biden lead Democrats on eve of CNN debate

The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer

40:13 min | 1 year ago

Trump announces Turkey sanctions amid Syrian bloodshed; Former Trump adviser testifying in impeachment probe; State department official, ambassador set to testify this week; New poll: Warren and Biden lead Democrats on eve of CNN debate

"Grows more grin atop Republican now says he's gravely concerned by the president's decision to Withdraw Hill testimony a former advisor to president happening now breaking news rapidly deteriorating president trump announces new sanctions on Turkey as the situation in northern Syria missile blower to remain anonymous given that we already have the call record we don't need the whistle blower who wasn't on the call to tell us what took place during the call we have the best evidence of that president is mischaracterizing what happened on the call claiming was the leader of Ukraine who I criticize the former US ambassador to that country Maria Ivanovich during the conversation and Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren and fatal shot a white police officer shoots and kills an African American woman inside her own home the police -cerned by the American exodus which left Kurdish allies in the region vulnerable to Turkish aggression and could lead to the resurgence of Isis chief says the officer may face charges and the victims heartbroken family is demanding justice I'm wolf blitzer you're in the situation room this is C. N. N. breaking news breaking news president trump announces news well president trump is reversing course somewhat on the situation in Syria announcing his imposing sanctions on Turkey and leaving some US forces in the region the question is whether or maybe we should impeach them schiff argues there's good reason for the is to appear before Congress tweeting House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff now doesn't seem to want the whistleblower to testify no we must determine that whistleblowers identity to determine what have you listened to the very good conversation that I had a very very good no pressure congenial conversation with the new president of Ukraine sanctions on Turkey as more Republicans come out against his decision to US troops from northern Syria the Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell says he's gravely he's got immunity but they can't mean immunity for that I said to him anyway even if we lose the American public will understand CNN Democratic presidential debate the former vice president tries to quiet controversy around his sons business delays as a brand new poll shows a virtual tie between that amount of backpedaling will be enough for lawmakers from both parties who have slammed Mr Trump's Syria policy there is another big potential crisis for the president playing out up on Capitol also breaking a former advisor to president trump is testifying up on Capitol Hill tonight as impeachment investigators dig in Fiona Hill Council White House it's the president who brought it up I saying the former ambassador from the United States the woman was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news have full coverage of the day's top stories first let's go to Jim Acosta over at the White House Jim what's the president saying right now about these new sanctions on Turkey Kona Hill talking to lawmakers behind closed doors in the Ukraine investigation president trump is insisting that the mysterious whistle blower behind the impeachment inquiry be outed and he had some things that were not flattering to say about her and that came out of the out of the blue but that's not true in the rough transcript released by the on matters related to Russia is considered a key witness speak with Democratic Congressman Eric squall wealth of the intelligence committee and our correspondents and analysts and why this was done to the USA the president wants to do more than just that warning he may sue shift and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi I actually talked to my lawyers I said Suam anyone. Sales is former Russia adviser funeral as you were saying sitting down with members of Congress leading the impeachment inquiry with his former top official on Russia so I just wanted to let you know that some Republicans are blasting the impeachment inquiry by linking the probe to Turkey's attacks on Kurdish forces in Syria was not an violent mean that was played at a pro-trump conference over the weekend at one of his resorts in Florida the White House says the President Condemns Video fantasizing about Mr trump still behind closed doors answering questions about the run up to that phone call in July with the president of the United States and the president of Ukraine one of the president trump brought up this is about the role that Rudy Giuliani played and running what some are calling shadow foreign policy urging the Ukrainian government in part to investigate the accident that the Turks chose this moment to roll across the border and I think the Democrats have gotta pay very careful attention to the damage that they're doing with the impeachment proceedings on him like a ton of bricks iranian-type sanctions the president appears to be getting the message tweeting he will impose sanctions on current and former Turkish government officials and that he album is already been created by the president giving Turkey a green light to invade Syria the president has had plenty to say about both the impeached ordering members of the news media of the president who has tweeted out these beams in the past these kinds of means like this in the past has not weighed in himself we'll fight but others in the GOP are still furious over the president's green light for the invasion of Syria president's handling of Turkey is drawn a big review from Senate majority leader Mitch Mcconnell they were concerned the White House could block her testimony the White House said they'd never took that step but nevertheless Democrats at a number of questions I'm told including about the ouster of the former least a strongly worded statement saying quote I am greatly concerned by recent events in Syria by our nation's apparent response thus far that rare to son is leading to calls for sanctions against Turkey he's going to see a united front that I haven't seen in a long time for Republicans and Democrats working with administration are Kinda come down we'll keep some U S forces in the region you administration says it's not too late to punish Turkey stat definitely not to like this is a complex still a lot of questions what she said one bit of theatrics happened earlier today one Republican lawmaker mad gates does not sit on the committee appeared and tried that investigation into the Biden's questions that this committee has the Democrats have about the preparation for that phone call what happened on that phone the aftermath of the phone call and our chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta thank you very much let's go up to Capitol Hill right now for details on testimony from a key witness in the impeachment pro Bono Raja is on the scene intelligence committee what are you hearing that's three rudy. Giuliani's associates have been of high interest Democrats about what was happening with Ukraine inquiry and Syria from his twitter account he's even wished his former press secretary Sean Spicer Good Luck on dancing with the stars but the president has yet to say anything about a gruesome Lydon's now she was subpoenaed today to come and testify before this committee in the Republicans say that she was willing to do so voluntarily Democrats gated situation but Democrats and says Mr Trump should take ownership of the slaughter of Kurdish US allies the sanctions are but it's not going to solve the problem the offer high praise for Ianovich also offered her opinion about the removal of her from that post that's been part of the discussion but wolf as I said seven hours and counting Trinian's Basser Marie Ivanovich testified before this committee last week and there've been a number of questions about her ouster Giuliani and his associates targeted pressing for answers wolf there's more key testimony in the coming days mono and I understand an associate of Rudy Giuliani's being cooperative right now with the house closed-door deposition today how helpful do you believe her testimony to your investigation will be incredibly helpful wolf also helpful that she showed ask tried to be a part of today's proceedings Democrats kicked him out of the hearing he came on and criticize the process so theatrics happening publicly as privately lawmakers on both sides hit with a subpoena that is Sam Kizlar and I'm told by his attorney that he is being quote cooperative with this committee now the question is what is Yosemite turning over what is attorney says Alex Wall well he serves on both the House intelligence and judiciary committees congressman fact so much for joining us and I understand you were in the room for Fianna Hills would get a presidential visit between Presidents Lindsay on the I'm sorry Ukraine would get a presidential visit on the Ukraine side with President Trump and Ukraine seen any contradictory evidence yet in our investigation so when the president says there was no quid pro quo that he was simply trying to make sure that the Ukrainians Russ Mono what has former White House advisor Fiona hill been telling lawmakers behind closed doors while more than seven hours and counting wolf so get its security assistance the president president trump is frankly admitted to that but did you get specific confirmation of that from Fiona Hill I'll just say that up and like some others has chosen to defy orders from the president and the State Department to not show up and when when witnesses actually just show up hate advances our investigation and talk today but wolf this is just one part of this broad investigation is moving rapidly where a number of witnesses are being asked to come in documents are being asked to be turned corruption in their country wasn't seeking dirt on the Biden's what are you saying one that's not the standard whether it was pro or not I think he you know in his go ahead of some high profile testament including on Thursday with Gordon Sunlen the E. U. S. ambassador to the European Union so a lot of questions Democrats they return after that he has nothing that'll actually that will bolster the Democrats impeachment push but nevertheless he's trying to convince this committee that he does not need to be deposed he was supposed to come as actually committed a crime yes extorting your taxpayer dollars three hundred million three hundred and ninety million dollars that was supposed to go to Turkey holding that over there including those two Ukrainian Rutigliano associates who are indicted last week they had been hit with subpoenas by Democrats ask of documents to be turned over one associate had not been ambassador Volker Ambassador Taylor Bill Taylor the second in command in Ukraine says are we really going to withhold security assistance and exchange for helping and Wolf I found ambassador of to be incredibly believable and incredible she's a states person who served our country I didn't hear anything today it's unless they investigated his political opponent the Biden's and went back and exonerated exonerated Russia for their role in two thousand sixteen election in exchange for that Turkey bribery soliciting campaign help it was confessed to by the president and there's an act of cover up going on right now let me just back up for a moment you're saying the president of the United Hey by the way let's have a quick pro go down right now but also wolf when you read ambassador Taylor's exchange with and you know we'll wait until she's done and I'm gonNA head back there before we characterize what she said the arrows continue to point in just one direction which is that a crime was committed extortion the president it sounded like a quid pro quo to him as you know Fiona Hill today had you heard from Monaco had high praise for the ousted ambassador two week recess and decide how quickly to move to whether about whether or not to impeach this President Armato thanks very much by Raja up on Capitol Hill we're joined now by Democratic congressman quest of the Ukrainian president he said I have a favor to ask though that is this pretty much a quid pro quo people who engage in a quid pro quo never say to Ukraine Maria von Ivanovich what picture in addition to what you're suggesting are you seeing emerge from her and potentially other witnesses Arango ways concerns about criticize her and the president himself criticized and later removed from the post now I am told from a source with knowledge of her testimony that fueled the hill today Johnny and the President of the United States and Rudy Giuliani's indicted associates to undermine US policy with Ukraine to back channel their own policy too your process and Mr Ken is invoked in some of these conversations among other ambassadors so we want to bring him in and just make sure it adds up I don't expect to hear anything charge of what right now which allowed Mr Giuliani as the president's agent personal agent to engage the way that he did it actually eventually get deals to benefit themselves also to help the president and his campaign you're scheduled to hear from another witness tomorrow George Kent who served I understand that the US embassy in Ukraine who oversees Ukraine and other areas in that part of the world what actually wolf is one thing I learned today is that it's actually very confusing over the State Department as to who is in contradicted the belief that I had of her or you know no one came out of the Ivanovich testimony saying that she was anything credible this was a scheme by Rudy Juliette that you know everything here adds up and frankly wolf when you have a confession from the suspect you don't have to interview as many witnesses but I think the president is due you will see when these transcripts come out it's quite confusing to people who have served a very long time at the State Department as to who is in charge with which portfolio the Washington Post is active lifestyle with tons of travel during football season constantly on the go I can't sacrifice style for comfort and thanks I don't have to anymore I'm sure you guys the arrows point in the same direction as we saw from the whistle blower complaint from what the president released call record with the president has said on twitter and in his public comments that we have not honor for a sweet twenty percent discount we're following multiple breaking stories right now including president trump just threatening powerful new it also plans to say that he was oblivious to the fact that an investigation into Barris by that that gas company had any link to the Biden's Dubai you maybe I would buy this argument that he had an interest and rooting out corruption in Ukraine that's not what we're seeing here this was strictly an interest to surf himself and nothing that would was inside your own home the former officer now face charges hey guys this is connor rogers I live in mkx sanctions on Turkey because of its military offensive in 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Different Than What we've heard from others but again we should have come forward and and see where it takes I former deputy assistant secretary is he still the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Dr Warner Stop Wasting your weekends in stores make it easy and get premium topnotch fabric with Mac wellman dot com don't forget that Promo Code War former Turkish officials because of the military incursion into Syria also ahead a fort worth police officer resigns amid outrage over the fatal shooting of a woman percents said he is going to seek to root out worldwide corruption of governments we get help from the United States and they're only going to get assistance if they're not corrupt maybe lots right now I know you're doing a lot of reporting the testimony that's going on Fiona Hill the president's former Russia adviser meeting behind closed doors for hours and hours today what are you hearing same under both the Obama and trump administration's a former State Department deputy assistant secretary what do you hope to learn from him again we're just trying to make sure IANOVICH he she basically says you know she's speaks very highly of her says that to her knowledge you know she was a very good at her job I don't buy that I I don't buy that there was no quid pro quo I'm looking I'll reserve judgment until I hear from Ambassador Sunland but Burris me by the way wolf is code for to the president and the president did their bidding essentially that's what she herself testified they wanted her out because she didn't agree with them on issues that she thought were were false who appear behind closed doors on Thursday before these committees the Washington Post is you know says he plans to point the finger president trump for claiming there was no quid pro quo if any Americans interest congressman Eric while well thanks for joining my pleasure thanks well we're going to have much more on the breaking news president trump just threatening strong economic sanctions on current and so I think what that does at least for the Democrats and what they're trying to do is it underscores someone who is an expert in this area who thinks kicks off a very busy week of hearings on Capitol Hill Real her testimony bolster the case for Impeachment Biden battles on the eve of the asks company that that Hunter Biden was on the board of was linked to the Biden's how do you think that explanations GonNa go already in Ohio Getting Ready for tomorrow C. N. N. Democratic presidential debate Dan let's talk a little bit about ambassador Gordon Sunlen the US ambassador to the European Union he who do this domestication are that Guiliani Rudy Giuliani the president's personal lawyer and some people in Ukraine wanted her out for their own reasons and they got most comfortable clothing I own making it hard to go back to anything else and if you think I'm lying give it a try you can keep the first pair of underwear and they'll still refund you no question the Asking him questions in in these behind closed doors meetings that he is going to have just like others are having like Fiona Hill today but the Russia and she is as a bona fide Russian expert this is what she does for only having worked at at Brookings and so I think you know shoe you wouldn't in and so anytime the president talked about investigating Barista that was code for investigating his potential political opponent and again we'll if we had a president who came into there was nothing wrong with what Uganda which was doing and perhaps lends credence to the idea that she was being pushed out for other reasons and again those reasons according to the Democrats and it gets question for Sunland is going to be the president's involvement because Gloria you can talk to her about this She heard that he when he be surprise I think to learn out of deposition that there were tensions and that she might have significant insight into the internal deliberations over how again with John Kirby the President Fiona Hill has top Russia advisor they didn't agree on a lot of stuff including Putin right she's she's hawkish on Putin and hawkish on not very well with the Democrats I would imagine that that if he doesn't facts say that that is going to be the biggest point of contention with the Democrats who are going to be Donovan came to be fired how those zones ski call was taken up and I wouldn't be surprised to see that she she differs with the President on much Dana and Gloria they're both she sent that text that we've all now seen that look very lawyerly talking about the fact that he is very clear when those conversations with the president's Alinsky of Ukraine also plans to say he had no idea that the Barista investigation that's the natural one of the interesting things things that she she's defending the the ousted Ukrainian ambassador who's become The center of this controversy in Ukraine Wolf early saying it is not a quid pro quo that he did that after getting off the phone with the president of the United States himself that is no question going to be the top issue do the Democrats are going to want to know because it gets to the heart of whether or not this was all coming from the very top the man who there tried well because the president is hearing from leaving Republicans like Mitch McConnell Lindsey Graham his usual allies as well as Democrats that this is complete and total disaster and he didn't take the advice of his foreign policy advisers he did what he wanted to do and what seems if you read The New York Act and helping Isis whom he said was defeated so I think that he is hearing the message from his Republicans and trying to do the picture they're getting is pretty much what was laid out by the whistle blower and I think what you'll hear from Mister Sunlen is that when on these witnesses these officials current and former it's eventually going to give them a pretty full picture right and so far wolf it seems like Hunter Biden never came up in their conversations but a lot of other people knew about it including the president of the United States and when the President says that the whistle blower President Erdogan Turkey's actions precipitating a humanitarian crisis and setting conditions for possible war crimes he's talking about charisma was sort of the code as Eric Swell put it for Biden Day just thought okay another corrupt Ukrainian oil company times what seems like a kind of ad hoc phone conversation with Air John he decided on the spur of the moment to do something that is having this lasting impact stance after he's already made this very foolish policy decision we'll see what it does this. The statement doesn't actually put sanctions in place that simply authorizes sanctions so nothing okay put it on our list to investigate and so what they're going to say is we didn't know that this was about Biden because perhaps the name Joe Biden her our is wrong just look at the phone call you look at this testimony and you look at the summary of the phone call it's all coming together and it is what the whistle a NATO the president just issued a pretty lengthy statement warning of sanctions tough new sanctions Oh Turkey based on what they're doing in Syria right now specifically against the Kurds and Ambassador Volker was told by Giuliani just take care of burris mom make sure that Barack Obama is investigated that they did not know that blower said it would be let's get John Kirby to what's going on right now with Turkey a NATO ally of the United States are to believe a long time to have an effect even if they're put into Gloria if you take a look at the statement that the president released today compared to the October Sixth White House statement announcing the Civil Turkish war crimes a NATO ally of the United States yeah pretty remarkable I think it's interesting difference between that statement today and Oughta damage control here because he doesn't get on the bandwagon with his Republicans they will do it to him and not with him clearly for forces having defeated the Isis territorial caliphate will no longer be in the immediate area what am I want a dramatic difference between then and now us are pulling out following his phone conversation with President Earn Awan that that statement was pretty bland saying United States will not support or be involved in the operation United States alone from best egg dot com isn't visit best egg dot com slash fall that's best eight dot com slash fall fest egg dot com slash Louis financial hack what's to consolidate all our credit card debt into one lower rate loan we shopped around and chose best dot com for three reasons great interest rates excuse for a long time to pull US troops out of Syria he had an excuse he's done it the consequences are tragic what's going on right now much more on all of this right now physically is done and it's very doubtful I think that sanctions are going to change our two ones game plan right now he's already well in the northeast Syria he's got a plan he's got troops on the ground sanctions we're gonNA take off all of our credit card debt bank to three month cash cushion and even saved enough for a sweet vacation it's a great feeling fragrances are difficult getting a person eighty we weren't even close to having enough cash to cover three months of living expenses or paying off credit card debt so we met with financial planner who helps us create a budget but as four point eight stars on consumer affairs and alone APP that literally took about a minute really smart best egg had the cash in our bank account in about twenty four hours we paid what kind of depressing being thirty nine and reading an article about money milestones to hit by age what he's been tweeting for the last several days and when he got off the phone with one which was basically his attitude was hey the hands off it's all yours so there's they're trying clearly to toughen up right he writes says this statement Turkey's military offensive is dangerous civilians and threatening peace security and stability in the region I have been perfectly clear with going to be the thing to watch tomorrow night is whether or not anybody actually tries anybody gets more aggressive with her now even with tough questions that she's gotten from moderators She you know she knows how to do this. 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Lawrence Taylor Pt. 1

"January twenty fifth nineteen eighty-seven as halftime began the scoreboard for Super Bowl. Anyone read Denver broncos Ten New York giants nine has they shuffled into the locker room the giants morale was broncos Twenty Lawrence Taylor was a super bowl champion he should have been on cloud nine instead he was subdued numb to the excitement his mind was elsewhere on what he would do after he left the stadium uh-huh that nearly ruined his career this week we'll chart Lt's meteoric rise to the NFL also explore how his popularity around the league ager incident in May two thousand ten threatened his attempt at redemption coming out of halftime his teammates played like men possessed and when the clock hits zero the scoreboard read giants thirty nine shoulders slumped Taylor stepped forward and began listen guys we didn't play no type of football the scores tend to nine yet from that first lung full of crack Cocaine Very New York City linebacker Lawrence Taylor when the giants picked him second overall in the nineteen eighty one draft they had no idea that welcome to sports criminals par cast original every week we dive into the dark side of sports history and look at athletes who not only broke the law they had selected the man who would change the game forever they also had no idea that he would struggle with drug addiction and host of personal problem they got every break and we played no giant football whatsoever not one iota giant football we're about to go out here and kick these guys but Taylor refused to go down without a fight earlier that year lt had battled a drug problem in one now that he was clean it it wasn't the most eloquent or memorable halftime speech ever given but it did enough to rouse the giants from their stupor. I am Carter Roy you can find episodes of sports criminals and all other par- cast originals for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts all seasons on the field and see how retirement drove him into a spiral of drug addiction and brushes with the law finally we'll examine how a me let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook and Instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network today we begin our dive into the legend he wasn't GonNa let all that hard work go to waste time to put up or shut up as the giants sat in the Locker Room and the city of New York lead him to a hard partying lifestyle and a secret addiction to crack cocaine next week will follow Lt's aw but broke the rules and covenants of their sport will also uncover how their actions impacted the history of the sport they played I'm Tim Johnson and to stream sports criminals for free on spotify just open the APP and type sports criminals in the search bar at podcast we're grateful for you our listeners you allow us to do what we love what makes Lt so great what makes him so aggressive is his total disregard for his body he was fast three two hundred forty pound linebacker Lawrence Lt Taylor Bill Belichick who was one of Lt's coaches on the New York giants once said mm-hmm on getting his hands on a Baggie full of white powder mixing it in with the hand-rolled cigarette and the Rushi of dire consequences both in the stadium and in his home life but before he became the unstoppable force expired him coaches had no idea how to stop him his fearlessness inspired and influenced defensive players for generations tation around every corner lt became the life of the party as he polluted his body with booze and crack cocaine the toll of such vices was museum and if he said his sights on you more often than not you're gonNA find yourself hitting the ground hard quarterback but the disregard for his body didn't only apply to his style of play off the field lt found himself drawn to drugs and alcohol with onus lt he was little Lonnie Taylor born on February fourth nineteen fifty nine in Williamsburg Virginia though in Lt permission to play Pop Warner Youth football in high school he played defensive guard quickly came to love being on defense did however a coach University of North Carolina was willing to take a chance on him in the fall of nineteen seventy seven at the age of eighteen orig- by his father Clarence to play football his mother Iris refused to allow it but when he was around fifteen high-risk finally gave in Z. says in his memoir Lt over the edge I knew right away that I'd rather hit then be hit soon it was time to start thinking of and in the one thousand nine hundred eighty s the game of football was changed forever but the man responsible wasn't a quarterback or running back it was six foot lt officially played his first game as a UNC tar heel during his sophomore season his coaches moved Lt to linebacker playing at the next level but even at six foot one two hundred pounds lt was slightly on the smaller side for what some of the major football college is one no one had any idea how consequential the change would be not just for Lt but for the entire sport but Carolina state it was the game that introduced lt to the world when the UNC defense took the field not lined up and face down NC state quarterback Scott Smith is is never left the Wolfpack ball handler when the center snapped listen until Lt's junior season that everything clicked on October Twentieth Nineteen seventy nine UNC faced number fifteen coming up to throw the ball down the field the two men collided jarring the ball loose. Lt could see the ball bouncing out of Smith's hand memoir that play shifted the spotlight onto him and that spotlight never left as luck should happen lt charged he blew past the two offense of guards like rag dolls and had a clear shot at Smith and just as Smith was wine hands and onto the grass as the ball bounced lt scooped it up and powered into the end zone touchdown tarheels according to Lt it the day he made that major play against NC state was the same day he met Sophomore Linda Cooley in a local bar in Chapel Hill at first Linda was hesitant to get involved with lt he had a reputation for being a bit of a bully on campus and was allegedly expecting a child with another woman but as they got to talking she found herself smitten by Lt's charming personality the too quickly became sweethearts in addition to his first Real Romance College also gave Lt his first taste of the party line style without anyone to keep him under control lt became a heavy drinker according to him quote on Saturday nights five of US field only grew legendary Oklahoma coach Barry Switzer nicknamed him Godzilla by the time his college career came to an end marijuana but realized he didn't care much for it or drugs in general according to him college was when he first heard about cocaine I would get a keg drink that and maybe two bottles of Jack Daniels and then go out on the town throughout college lt also occasionally smoked ear talks of Lt playing professionally began to swirl with each passing week in the fall of nineteen eighty his reputation as a monster on the but given his preference for alcohol he swore to stay away from it he did have a football career to consider after all going into his senior jacker lt figured they wouldn't be interested in him he was wrong while Lt cracked open a cold one he completely lt had caught the attention of organizations like the Dallas cowboys and the New York giants in addition to being named the ACC player of the Year Orleans Saints had selected heisman winner George Rogers running back out of South Carolina the pick hardly came as a surprise to lt written hotel unlike today top prospects weren't invited to the draft so as the proceedings began lt was watching from his pimps sex workers in junkies the big apple had quickly become known as fierce city NYC may have been on the east coast but only home in Williamsburg with ESPN's cameras rolling NFL Commissioner Pete Rozelle announced that with the first overall pick the new the giants went on the clock Lt headed into the kitchen to grab a beer the previous season their offense had been dismal as a line missed rozelle's announcement to the world that the giants had selected him with the second overall pick he was going to New York up until then could be drafted first overall the nineteen eighty-one NFL draft took place on April Twenty eighth and twenty ninth at the New York the Saints Coach had already made it clear the first pick wouldn't be him he also knew different organizations had different priorities so as the neo acidy of over eighty thousand every Sunday he'd be playing in front of twice the population of Williamsburg and Chapel Hill people in Chapel Hill North Carolina had just over thirty thousand now lt would be moving to New York whose population in nine combined all of a sudden lt found himself going from a small pond to a very big ocean and it was filled without its detractors within the organization the coaches may have been excited but his fellow defencemen weren't so welcoming for them and a consensus all American hype was building that the twenty one year old would be a top ten pick in the upcoming draft some even thought he eighteen eighty was over seven million people giants stadium located on the outskirts of New York City in East Rutherford New Jersey had a lt had spent most of his life in small towns in the nineteen seventies the population of Williamsburg Virginia was under ten thousand on top of navigating these new challenges lt also had to navigate a hostile locker room the giants picking Lt was Kelly and Brad Van Pelt with the addition of Lt in one thousand nine hundred eighty one the crunch bunch as they would later be known was born a new lifestyle he may have spent his college years binge drinking and smoking some marijuana but New York offered every temptation imaginable ask gangsters like Frank Lucas and Nikki bonds flooded the streets where the stuff moving to New York City exposed the twenty two year old Lt to a whole leading bill parcells and Bill Belichick he also began building a defense to include the aforementioned hall of Famer Harry Carson and pro bowlers Brian at the time heroin was the prominent drug to take over the city. Nixon declared the rampant drug use America's public enemy number one and infant the very first day of training camp lt was fast very fast instead of running with the other linebackers he would sprint with sharks New York in the nineteen seventies was a city of crime and vice areas like forty second street were teeming with he took the job as the giants head coach He'd be overseeing a rebuilding franchise under his command he put together an incredible coaching staff and love parcells better than any coach he would have though at times in the heat of the moment the two fought bitterly the summer backers and defensive backs including hall of Famer Harry Carson believed that the linebacker core was already strong he thought they should have spent their picks sells began a relationship that would last for decades parcells knew exactly how to channel Lt's ferocity into focus he saw field to prove himself to everyone coming up lt takes New York by storms the nineteen seventy s and leading into the nineteen eighty s it was the wild west and that lawlessness extended to the rise in drugs words and sacking the quarterback he made veterans on the offensive line looked like they had never played the game before on day one of Camp Lt and Bill Order of the nineteen seventies the giants had been one of the worst teams in the league they had made the playoffs since nineteen sixty three and nineteen seventy two on a position that was more crucial to upgrade like a receiver or running back however coach Ray Perkins had an eye for talent he knew the winning as it turned out. Those worries were unfounded during the Game Lt was told to line up against the Eagles Wide Receiver Harold Carmichael alongside the wide receivers usually the fastest guys on a team. He could channel that quickness at the line of scrimmage quickly rushing past blockers guard nineteen eighty-one was going well for lt he had won a starting role married his girlfriend Linda Cooley and had a son Morris Taylor junior the field in his first official NFL game on Game Day lt entered giant stadium with butterflies in his stomach arm now back to the story over the summer of Nineteen eighty-one Lawrence Lt Taylor had pushed himself who was the last time they had a winning season the year before drafting Lawrence Taylor they finished a dismal four and twelve some of the line when quarterback Ranjha Warsi snapped the ball the plan was for lt to slam into Carmichael and prevent him from running his route just before his pro debut in September nineteen eighty-one Lt flew back to Chapel Hill to meet his new child who they nicknamed Tj after that he was the second overall pick he would have to earn a starting role but both parcels and Bella check saw something special in Lt from just before the snap Je War Ski gave the signal and Carmichael moved spots on the line but immediately returned towards lt like all rookies lt now sporting number fifty six was at the bottom of the depth chart fourth team. It didn't no I d what to do but lt had a rule he always lived by on the field if you get confused rush and get the quarterback on his back back as soon as you can and that's exactly what he did the ignoring the play Lt blew past the Eagles offensive line and drove ron six miles from giants stadium during a party midway through the season Lt got offered a line of cocaine unlike his resistance to doing mix with the letters lt at Games and chant that Lt was a god Lt couldn't get enough of it but his rookie year it wasn't so much stage fright at playing in front of over seventy two thousand people it was fear that he wasn't going to be the most dominant player of the game aw the birth of his son had a powerful impact on Lt with his young family and his heart Lt was ready to go out onto the war ski into the ground it was Lt's first professional sack into war sqi quickly learned to keep an eye out for number fifty six there wasn't without its challenges a few months into his first season Lt had his first encounter with a new opponent in lt the makings of one of the greats and would ride him harder than anyone else in camp in return Lt grew to respect and love x for the rest of his career the giants would go on to lose their opening game against the Eagles ten to twenty four but the NFL on with a sack provided a stronger boost than any drug ever could his mantra was Taylor controls the drug the drug doesn't control Taylor Oh Kane that year lt lived with fellow rookie linebacker Byron Hunt and rookie tight end Dave young in Passaic New Jersey abouts eggs in college this time he accepted maybe it was pressure from his friends maybe his burgeoning success said clouded his judgement for the time being he was going to hold firm to that but that night in passaic a secret relationship began but e maybe he just wanted to try something new but whatever his reasoning was lt love the fork feeling the cocaine gave him became priority number one in his first season lt quickly became a fan favourite and city hero fans would paint their style. Let's see head coach Ray Perkins resign in order to become head coach of Alabama but for lt it was another banner year Elti caught his first drug rush that night but he knew that making it a habit could threaten his career hitting guys on the field and bringing quarterback's down it completely confused the giants rookie so much so that wins the war ski finally snapped the Ball Lt lost sight of Carmichael and had order it cemented his place in history unfortunately nineteen eighty two wouldn't go quite as planned dark began to form according to Lt it was during his second season at twenty three when his cocaine use increased at first in as he began experimenting with drugs his first season would go down as one of the greatest rookie years in NFL history lt collected nine the season was shortened to only nine games due to a fifty seven day players strike the giants finished four and five a setback that world got a peek into what was to come in the following weeks teams would mark their calendars for when they were going to play the giants studying. Lt's films his limits to prove himself to his new coaches and teammates on the New York giants now on September six thousand nine hundred eighty one he was ready to take against drugs because of his dislike of marijuana back in college believed him as his use of drugs began to increase during the offseason hello despite the close score the Broncos had dominated the first half but New York Star linebacker Lawrence Lt was a highlight moment that took him to a second straight defensive player of the year award but during his sophomore year the legend of Lt after which bill belichick would be moved from linebackers coach to defensive coordinator parcells first year was abysmal in the nineteen eighty-three seats and a half sacks two forced fumbles and one interception and with those individual accomplishments came team success in nineteen eighty one it was a landmark season for the giants and for Lt the defensive rookie of the year the defensive player of the year and a probe the giants made it to the playoffs for the first time since nineteen sixty three though they lost in the divisional round against the San Francisco Forty niners the giants were in the midst of Coaching Change after Ray Perkins left in one thousand nine hundred eighty two defensive coordinator bill parcells was promoted to head coach it was only recreational and he still preferred alcohol as his main vice but as lt would go out and party in the big city the availability of the best warranty even fully aware of his cocaine habits and his wife Linda who is still living over five hundred miles away in Chapel Hill had when she confronted him about it he lied and said he was just holding on to it for one of his roommates Linda who was under the impression that her husband was during the Thanksgiving Day game against the Detroit lions he intercepted a pass from Gary Danielson and ran at ninety seven yards for a touchdown cocaine made it too hard for him to avoid Lt kept his drug use a secret and he made sure never use it on game days no idea that he was living a double life. Linda recalled finding a small baggy of cocaine and Lt coat pocket during a visit to New Jersey or managed only nine touchdowns with twenty two interceptions he was sacked thirty one times things on that side of the ball didn't seem to click and Lt much of what it was said about him was speculation and gossip teammates who lockers were next to L. Tease the men closest to them and who knew him the team finished three and twelve with one tie the defense however wasn't the problem it was the offense starting. QB Scott Brunner he grew frustrated he began to show up late for practice or missing entirely when parcells called him out on this behavior lt shifted the blame awesome self and onto his teammates he wasn't the problem they were but parcells refused to give up on his star player he continued I draw backs and so forth on each side of the middle linebacker was an outside linebacker this where lt lined up outside linebacker on the field and the biggest celebrity in New York fans eight up his ability to quickly and perfectly time getting off the line of scrimmage even though the USFL didn't have the same cachet as the NFL Lt decided to hear the man out without his agent's knowledge headed reputation continued to grow other teams would create their offensive strategy based solely on where Lt was going to line up happy with the giants healthy received a lifeline from the owner of the New Jersey generals of the short-lived US F. L. Donald trump relation both on and off the field by the end of the nineteen eighty-four season Linda and Tj at finally with trump he earned a new six hundred and fifty thousand dollar yearly salary that would rise to roughly one point one million by nineteen eighty six and -nificant res L. T. only agreed to re sign with the giants if bill parcells kept his job coach parcells always had his asked rusher from the outside whenever the ball snapped lt blasted through the offensive line looking to drag down the quarterback because of his side linebacker the one that lines up opposite of the quarterback was considered the most important position on the defense they did everything blitzes cover position as rumors swirled about ourselves future Lt was also growing frustrated with his contract as word got out that he wasn't and Lt came crashing through like a train and the last thing you wanted to be was in his way around the league itself Lt's feared was already in the hot seat in fact word was going around the papers that University of Miami coach Howard schnellenberger would be offered the giants head coaching not agreed to play for trump when his contract with the giants expired after the nineteen eighty-seven season when Lt's agents learned of this deal back now it was time for lt to return the favor by the end of the talks lt got everything he wanted he was able to buy out his agree of all bill parcells kept his job all thanks lt who found himself in an unprecedented position of power within the organs the results were almost always the same number fifty six taking down the quarterback prior to Lt's entrance into the league the inside it was more of a reactionary positions keep the eye on the ball and from there determine what to do Lawrence Taylor was different he was more of a they met with both trump and giants GM george young to renegotiate Lt's contract with giants in addition to demanding a cigar joined Lt in New Jersey and he led the giants to a nine seven record and another playoff appearance twenty five year old Lt was the biggest thing and bring down the likes of joy war ski thighs men Ken O'Brien Todd Blackledge Joe Montana it didn't matter how many men were supposed to block it him other defenses began to employ this strategy into the outside linebacker position but for his heart is lt hit sometimes adding extra tight ends the block and win defensive coordinator Bill Bella check picked up on it they would move lt two different part of the line of scrimmage aggressive one football by its very nature is violent and with that violence comes injury lt himself suffered from a few concussions he never did so with the intention of hurting anyone that was the last thing he ever wanted to do l. t. wasn't a dirty player by any means just in during his early years but no matter how much you train to protect yourself or others accidents are bound to happen to Lt's great lament he was involved in one of the worst NFL hits in history a hit that ended another player's career going in into week eleven of the nineteen eighty five season the giants were seven and three they were scheduled to play the Washington redskins on Monday night football he turned around and toss the ball back to as men they were executing flea flicker classic trick play intended to buy a wide receiver some time to make it where Lt was lining up size men's snapped the ball and immediately handed it off to fullback Joe Riggins as riggins began to run up the middle on November eighteenth it was the second meeting of the season the first resulted in a giants victory seventeen to three in the second quarter the scores was tied seven to seven Washington had the ball like every quarterback who faced Lt Joe thighs men paid close attention to Lt's addiction would soon take control of him coming up the Super Bowl is finally me he had suffered a compound fracture has everyone waited cameras captured a physically distraught Taylor has he waited for off of thighs men and started screaming for help motioning for doctors and trainers on the sideline thighs man's leg was unnaturally bent below the eighty five would be thirty six year old Joe Thighs Men's last game during the recovery he made the decision to retire in subsequent years Lawrence Taylor's sites and so are the repercussions for his crack addiction now back to the story he was able to keep it hidden from his teammates at that time it was up to individual teams to conduct their own internal drug tests is meant to be taken off of the field lt loved to hit hard but he never wanted to end another man's career November eighteenth nineteen hits in NFL history for Lawrence Taylor it signaled the descent into a deeper addiction to crack cocaine by this time Lt had moved lt claims that during huddles he would begin to think about his next fix instead of the game itself and now that Linda was settled in New Jersey moved from snorting cocaine to smoking it by rolling it up in his cigarettes and it was once he transitioned into smoking the drug that Lt betrayed organization if player tested positive for an illegal substance all the team would do was recommend he entered treatment at some point Lt had a hard time hiding his addiction from her it's unclear when Linda finally came to realize that Lt was a crack addict zone mantra the drug now took control of him he went from using less than a gram or a couple of lines over the course of a few weeks he's not refused to talk about the hit whenever it was replayed for an interview Lt made sure to never look at the monitors back in ninety he ignored parcells advice and devised a way to beat any future drug test in his books about the nineteen eighties giants with performance enhancing steroids not yet in the picture teams were mostly on the lookout for players abusing their bodies with recreational drugs within the was what led to his escalated use of crack that year the timing is hard to ignore as the nineteen eighty five season progressed to buying multiple announces every week on the rush from cocaine now eclipse the rush he felt from football in fact when she found out she did what she could to try and help her husband get control of it but lt didn't want help and so- Linda and Lt's aid into would sometimes be forced to scour New York crack dens to bring lt home but while he wasn't able to hide his addiction from Linda are in Teaneck and then take Manhattan by storm bouncing from studio fifty four to the underground to sweetwaters to the seller to rascals has been playing days it was a low point in Lt's thriving career but the nineteen eighty five season wasn't just the season with one of the most notable what he loved partying as Lt put it himself on a typical night I pick up one of my pals and start our adventure at a Bar Liam keep the test quiet he advised Lt to seek treatment in New York but left it at that however lt didn't think he had a problem our producer Jerry Barca says that running back butch wool folk man who stayed clean from both drugs and alcohol would supply lt with clean urine it up. Lt's vices that was just the tip of the iceberg Lt was also addicted to women but then again that had been true ever since not would return to his hotel room with multiple women on each arm while Linda was back in New Jersey raising the children lt was in some city having I am on Sundays in the fall he was game ready and he swore to never take drugs during the game itself the linebacker knew something bad had happened immediately he could hear the pop as if a gun had gone off right next to him he jumped

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The Killing of Breonna Taylor, Part 2

The Daily

31:52 min | 2 weeks ago

The Killing of Breonna Taylor, Part 2

"From. The New York Times I'm Michael Borrow. This is daily. Watson. John no-one said violent crime. You. Have worked to do in terms of building trust with the people that we have sworn to serve and protect yesterday. My colleague Luke Column Ocoee told the story of how Police in Louisville Kentucky ended up at Brianna Taylor store. She was coming for everything she wanted to share two, thousand and twenty. Today. What thousands of pages of documents and hours of us tell us about the night that she was killed. and. Whether any of the officers involved. Will ever be charged. It's Thursday September tenth. We'll make for difficult listening for some people but can you walk me through what you have learned about the night of March twelve? Yeah. So leading up to that night Brianna Taylor had just worked for overnight shifts at the hospital where she was employed as er tech. She was pretty tired out and she spent the day with her boyfriend Kenny Walker. Lose Chilin pretty much most part of the day. Later, they went on a date to statehouse, end up, going to Texas roadhouse and they headed home around nine o'clock that night it was a great day and there was a normal day usually they went to his apartment, which was just a few minutes away where he lived alone they didn't go to hers typically because she lived with her little sister and her two year old goddaughter who spent several nights a week there. But that particular night, the night of March Twelfth Brianna sister was on a trip to. California her goddaughter was staying with relatives somewhere else, and so they decided to head home to be honest apartment because they knew that they would have the place themselves. We're back in house. It was Inbetween Watch a movie and play on Oh, and we decided to do both according to Kenny's account. She bakes cookies she served them with ice cream they play the game of Ood. No didn't make it halfway through game for she's fallen asleep. So and then they turned on Netflix and curled up in bed she just went to sleep and then I'll just laying there. Those about over me to. The moon was watching us. What we know is that wildest casual date happen inside her apartment outside her apartment starting at around ten PM, just an hour after. Brianna. Taylor and Kenny Walker had returned from the State House. A handful of plain clothes police officers from the Louisville Metro Police Department began circling around the parking lot surveilling her place in preparation for a coordinated raid that was aiming to gather evidence of what they believed was a criminal drug syndicate run by Jamarcus Lover. Brian Tenders ex-boyfriend. At around twelve thirty five am they pulled one last time got out of the car and in their tactical vests went and lined up in front of apartment for and the only thing they noted was the blue glow of delight that was coming from her TV in her bedroom window. Level, Metro police powers color can take her her unit. Also. With me is sergeant Chad to now be a you now for what happens next at night we've spoken to neighbors we've gone through police documents. I am here with. Your name is Kenny or Kenneth. Kenneth and we also have the recorded statement. Can you walk her gave the police a few hours after the events of that night is we'll be a recorded statement from certain John Mattingly and the recorded statement from the officer who led the approach to Brianna tenders. Sergeant. This statement is being video and audio tate. Yes. Don. Mattingly. Department since June of two thousand at around twelve forty. Am both Kenny and mattingly say that it all started with a knock on Brianna Taylor store. When we all got up in line, knocked on the door or allowed banks to do thing on the door, she pops up battery sleep scared to death both say they didn't hear any response through the door. First thing she said who is. No response. There was a second knock banged on it again no response to other dock at the door. She's like, who is it loud at the top the world's no response. Mattingly says that after their third knock that point we started announcing herself please the door place we have a search warrant they began loudly announcing themselves screaming police, police, police another knock at the door she's yelling at the top. To this point, who is it, but Kenney says response all they heard was the Naccache they never heard any voices no answer anything. So we like what the heck and at this point I'm scared to death they're both frightened. and. In the confusion that happened Kenny put on Brianna pants. That's how scared and startled they both were. Thinking it was. because. We've been on it off together can says to investigators later that what he thought was going on is that the person at the door was Briana us. that. God and she was miss know whatever throughout that time you know he never names the ex-boyfriend but officials say that his description makes clear that he's referring to demarcus Lover Ed. You popped up over there. Once before I was there like a couple weeks ago. And that's why he says that he reaches for his gun. So. Then I grabbed my good, which is legal like a licensed to carry everything I've never even fired by going outside of a rage. and. He and Briana who are now barefoot but partially addressed began to walk outside of their bedroom. Walking towards the door to go see who is on the other side of the door. Announcing mattingly and other officers say that at this point they were bringing very loudly and with every beat they were screaming police, police, police announce herself police search warrant a probably banging on the door six or seven different time periods probably lasted between forty five seconds a minute mattingly says that at this point they feel that they've given Brianna Taylor, plenty of time to come to the door and point to go ahead and hit it solid might say go ahead and at this point they decide that they're going to ram and the door. Hits the first time and it his right on the door handle there's a man who is armed with a battering Ram. He hits the door once move door they hit it a second time second time he hits it almost knocks the door open I could see a crack in the door into the leading into the department. So said, this one's going to go and then finally they punch a trail. So he hit the third time Susie at the door came out there yelling please search more employees search warrant. As soon, as I cleared the threshold of the front door, I could see down the hallway. There's a bedroom door on the right and there's a male and female. Now this is important. Officer Mattingly claims that as they beat down the door, he steps into the apartment through the threshold and he's able to see down a long hallway. This hallway that's roughly twenty five to maybe thirty feet long and immediately what he sees are two human figures and as I turned the doorway, he's a stretched out position with his hands with a gun and as his eyes adjusting, he suddenly realizes that the male figure is standing with his hands facing forward and in his hands are what looks to be a gun as clear he fires bone. Now in Kenny's telling. Kenny and Brianna or walking side-by-side. They've just left the bedroom. They've stopped not even a couple of feet into the hallway being the door like comes off the hit. The door comes flying off the hinges this happen fast like it was like an explosion and immediately as it flew open, he has gone and he shot right away. Shot he says, I, go boom boom. It was all in one motion like simultaneous like. Boom. Officer as a whole lot of shots. Soon. As a shot hit I could feel the heat my leg, and so I just returned fire I got four rounds off mattingly says that he lets off immediately simultaneous is boom boom boom boom boom. A slipped back them my but to get out of line of fire and then restore and I, think I had two more off the corner of the door to shots after that, and then I could really fill a blood my leg saw seven. Felt it my hand was full blood and a yellow Tama been hit from moral. He's been hit in what's called for moral artery. This is one of the major arteries in your body. It's a very dangerous wound. You can bleed out in a matter of minutes if it's not treated and the next couple of minutes are just a scene of utter chaos. One of his colleagues tries to step on the wound. Another officer takes off his belt to put on a tourniquet. You hear them on the radio ever. Calling for the ambulance. The ambulance choice to rush to the apartment complex and the ambulance goes to the wrong entrance. It hits an entrance that happens to have a gate on it. So they tell the ambulance. Just Ram. But. It doesn't seem to be able to go pass the crushed metal. So at this point, they're trying to get mattingly to the first responders and he can't walk. Basically told to get on top of the trunk as they slowly drive the car towards the ambulance, which is now in snared and the crush dates. Gets in the ambulance and finally able to start taking him to a hospital. During all of this confusion, a third officer whose name is detective Brett Hankinson who had been in the same formation at the front of the door. He had left that formation. He had run back out through the breezeway and he had run into the parking lot. So he's now outside the apartment complex facing Brianna residents and the other apartments there, and he begins blindly firing through. Brianna. Window and her patio door, both of which were covered with blinds. So he had no way of seeing inside. The bullets from bread concerns gone we believe are the ones that ripped not just through her apartment, but also through one of the apartments that was in the back where a young woman who was pregnant and her five year old child were asleep in separate bedrooms. Luckily, the bedrooms where they were sleeping were not in the line of fire and they were not harmed. So. Shooting like we're both on the ground and no shots were they're going or stuff I'm skirt. Like freaking. Register anything that's going on or did you go there? I just dropped on the ground Right next to herbal where I've talked on the ground. Mike there's a room. When you come to her so there's a wall right here which. Back inside his apartment Kenney says that he dropped to the floor and he managed to crawl on hands and knees into the second bedroom noah out a shot stop. Panicking she's right there on the ground like lead in. Nobody's coming in just feels instead and. Feel the same right now. At that point he makes three phone calls in quick succession. I call them. At twelve, forty, six. am He called his mom? Hurt somebody just kicked in the door and shocked me. So at his mom said, Kenny, can you have to call nine one? One right near car novel right right. Near at twelve forty seven am nine, one, one operator Harris where they're emergency he's finally calls nine, one one. Happy somebody in the door inside my grocery I where are you located? Omega Three Zero. Three. Field apartment for. My Guy. Okay how does your girlfriend? She's Twenty six. For. Twenty. was she shot at I don't know only grill right now though. especially, alert and able to talk to you. Know, she's breathing. Could you think? Who? Wouldn't? And we see from the call logs that appears to be the first time that police officials become aware of the fact there's a young woman who is inside the apartment and that she seriously will do. Our Own Brianna Mama I hung up on two minutes after that a twelve, forty, nine am. He calls to Meka Palmer Brianna Taylor's mom and then are told her. What happened when I was on the phone her, that's what I to realize that it was the police because now you're like come out come out. We also have cell phone footage from bystanders from neighbors at this point woken up, and they manage to capture Kenny being brought out. For our stepped out yield to them like, Hey, I got my phone in my hand like I'm on like like you know so I come out. They tell him to come up with his hands above his head and walking backwards. Long. Just start walking backwards are clearly have nothing in my hands anything. I'm walking backwards and he has his dog barking like three feet behind me like the dog is going crazy. and. He's like if you don't get down or something while you're doing everything, they're asked me to slowly and surely like. I'm like scared to death and I'm like I'm scared. Hor. He's weeping and sobbing and crying. Very. Common I. Put the Cuffs on stuffed, walking me away. That was. In the air. It's only after they've taken Kenny outside of the apartment that the police go inside and see what's happening and at this point Brianna was gone. Would you pay one hundred dollars for a six pack of beer could you as climate change disrupts global agriculture were approaching a future where everyday items including beer will be far more expensive. Of course, beer will be the least of our problems. The economic consequences of Climate Change will make twenty twenty looks small in comparison. That's why fat tire Amber Ale is. Now America's first national carbon-neutral certified beer. It's a good start, but it's not enough learn more and take action to solve climate change at drink sustainably dot. com. Berkman given all the documents that you have had access to and reviewed. What do you make of that night this raid? I think that we can say with some confidence that there were a series of things that went wrong. Let's start with what we know about the rate itself. We know that the police had a meeting just a few hours before the rate and they told the officers that were heading to her apartment that she was living alone that she had no children, no pets and no boyfriend other than jamarcus lover. They got this wrong day assumed that she's home alone and that she lives alone they don't know anything about her sister. They don't know anything about her goddaughter and they don't seem to know at all about Kenny. At that same meeting the police were told that even though the judge had approved a so called no knock warrant. They were going to change it to a knock and announce meaning that the police have to knock and announce themselves as police officers. Mattingly then says in a statement that they repeatedly announced themselves that they screamed out police police police did you hear them call out and say, I'm always anything like that. Of the roughly dozen people that I spoke to I found only one neighbor and it was the man who happened to be immediately on the staircase above Brianna Taylor's apartment who said that he heard the police announced themselves and you're sure only police wants police. And he claims that he heard them say only once the. Police I never once heard them that night announced. that. Oh. I didn't hear that at all everybody else said that the first thing they heard no, they're just pop pop pop pop pop pop would the shots. Plus welcome back to face the nation. Let's we have the actions of Bread Hankinson when he shot blindly into Brianna, Taylor's apartment from dozens of feet outside in the parking lot I just WanNa read from a letter that was written to one of the three officers terminated. It was from the chief of police officer and it is scathing. His actions have been denounced by his own department as reckless. It says Brett Hankinson displayed an extreme indifference to the value of human life when you want and Lee and blindly fired ten rounds into the apartment of Brianna. Taylor he was fired in June, and in his termination letter, the police chief said that his behavior that night was quote a shock to the conscience. So that's what we know at this point about the rate that self. But there are other pieces of the puzzle that are still missing. Like what this department has withheld some of the most basic information do you typically get to see at this point in an investigation we have not seen her autopsy, the body camera footage of the SWAT team officers who responded to the call have not been released and the statements of the officers at the scene other than mattingly have also been withheld. and at the same time. Hello. This is a prepaid collect call from an inmate at Louisville Metropolitan Corrections Department investigators have uncovered more evidence indicating an ongoing relationship between Brianna Andrew Marcus clever hello. And this specifically came just a few hours after her death in a number of jailhouse calls that Jamarcus made to another woman. So are you money? Yeah Shooting moving. Eight eight I've still got money. Induce calls to Marcus is trying to make bail to get out of jail. Bree granted. Yemeni. Did. She tell you what? What choice she say I mean none she. And he tells that woman that he has left eight and six, eight, grand and six grand at Brianna Taylor's home. So fourteen thousand dollars at brand tillers home and he doesn't tell just that woman. No breathe breathe breathe. Or you know how we do also tells another associate on a different call where they have a discussion about where the money is A. Little or using bell down and Demarcus says regarding the money at Brianna. Taylor's home. It was there. It was there. It was there and so investigators point out the Marcus Glover never had any kind of legal employment and they're saying that these thousands of dollars are therefore the proceeds of his drug trade and that she was essentially handling the proceeds of his business for him. But even if to Marcus was storing thousands of dollars at Brianna, Taylor's apartment acclaimed that by the way has not been verified. Everyone I've spoken to advocates for her family and officials at the city and state level agree that that should not have led to this young woman getting killed. And around the country protest calling for justice for Briana Taylor have been continuing every single day. And those protests have brought about some change. The Police Chief in Louisville was forced out he resigned. And just a couple of days ago an African American female police officer has been named as interim chief. And finally after heated protests and Emotional Pleas Louisville. Mayor Greg Fischer signed Brianna 's law today the city council passed something called Brianna 's law which is a law that makes no knock search warrants illegal also Kentucky Senator Rand Paul Introducing the Briana Taylor bill that would ban no knock warrants. There's also a movement to make Brianna law a national not But the protesters who have been flooding into the streets day in day out night after night have been calling for something very specific. They're calling for the three officers who opened fired that night to be criminally charged and to be arrested and sent to prison. In fact, Oprah Winfrey has erected twenty-six billboards around. Louisville, asking for just that. Also. And what is learned is there are real obstacles to charging those three officers. And what do you mean by that? What are those obstacles? In this case, there aren't a lot of things that people agree on, but there's consensus on two major points. One of them is that Kenny Sean. I. And under Kentucky Law, he has the right to use lethal force against somebody entering his home or apartment if he believes that person is an intruder. But Kentucky Law also protects police officers who are using deadly force in self defense and the legal experts I've talked to say that it's hard to see how mattingly who was shot in the leg and his colleague standing right next to him how their actions are not going to be seen as opening fire in self-defence. The second major point of consensus is that the officer who blindly fired through Brianna Taylor's patio door and the window and the walls of her home from the parking lot outside. Everybody. Agrees that he violated department policy and that he most likely acted a criminal manner what I've been told is that if the forensic analysis of the of the ballistics of the bullets that were shot that might show that Hankinson 's bullets did not harm her then the only charge that he can be charged with under Kentucky Law is something called Wanton endangerment his actions endangered Brianna and others neighborhood and his colleagues, and that's a much lesser charge than what protesters have been calling for. And while protesters are demanding that these three officers be charged with murder and be arrested and be put away. The. Agree on. What officials are telling me is that the charge of murder against any of these three officers? Is Looking. On my question. You know I've I've spent months poring over thousands of pages of legal documents, police records, call logs. I've I've gone through terabytes of data trying to understand what happened to Brianna Taylor. It was in the final couple of days of my reporting that a source handed me her scrapbook. She was a scrap booker she she had a scrapbook where she would cut out little pictures of herself and her friends, her mom her sister and she would note down momentous occasions in her life. And in this scrapbook, there's one specific entry that has really stayed with me. She wrote it on the occasion of her graduation from High School in two thousand eleven and she says. Graduating. This year on time is so important to me because I'll be the first to my family to accomplish this. My mother wasn't able to finish highschool on time and get her diploma. So I know how much my getting mine means to her To have my entire family expecting you to graduate and set a good example for the younger ones is one of the biggest responsibilities I've ever had. But I refuse to let anyone down regardless of the amount of pressure I have on my shoulders. I want to be the one who finally breaks the cycle of my family's educational history. I want to be the one to finally make a difference. I want to be the one that everybody can look to with smiles on their faces telling me how proud of me? They are the one they can find these say you did it to. I want that to be me. BRIANNA SA- cow. Taylor. This podcast is supported by Qube the streaming service with fresh original stories that unfold in minutes Kuby has been nominated for ten emmy awards including the Thriller Most Dangerous Game Starring Liam Hemsworth The piercingly funny comedy dummy starring in a Kendrick the topical and Intense Drama Free Ray Sean starring Stefan James and Laurence Fishburne and the shocking Joma survive with Sophie. Turner Watch shows like you've never seen told in minutes download now for your free two week trial. Here's what else you need to. I think really to be honest with you one you wanted to. I wanted to always play it down I still like playing down. Yes. Because I don't want to create a panic, a series of recorded interviews with journalist Bob. Woodward. At the start of the pandemic. President trump acknowledged he had knowingly played down the threat of the corona virus. Even though he was aware that it was deadly, it goes through air bob that's always tougher than the touch touch. You don't have to touch things right but the air, you just breathe the air that's how it's passed. And so that's a very tricky one. That's a very delicate one. it's also more deadly than your. You Know Your even your strenuous lose. Recordings from February and March. which were published on Wednesday by The Washington Post shoe that trump was deliberately misleading the public just as the virus began killing tens of thousands of Americans. He knew how deadly it was. It was much more deadly than the flu he knew and purposely played it down worse. He lied to the American people. In response, trump's democratic rival Joe Biden. Sharply, criticized the president during a campaign, stop saying that trump had abdicated his responsibility to protect the public he failed to do his job on purpose. A life and death betrayal of the American people experts. That's it for the daily. I'm Michael Borrow. See, tomorrow.

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Morning Joe 11/11/19

MSNBC Morning Joe

36:46 min | 11 months ago

Morning Joe 11/11/19

"Why didn't you deny calling the president a moron a really old question? The understand that by not answering during the question some people thought you were confirming the story of answered the question. You think you answered the question. I've answered the question. Whatever you do? Don't don't hire a yes man someone that's going to tell you I won't tell you the truth. Don't do do that because if you do. I believe you'll be impeached. According to Nikki Haley Rex Tillerson and John. I'm Kelly tried to recruit her to undermine president trump in an effort to save the country. Big News this morning. Good morning and welcome to good morning. Joe It is Monday November Eleventh Veterans Day with us. We have White House reporter for the Associated Press. Jonathan Lemere former chief of staff to to the D Triple C and former director of strategic communications for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign Adrian Elrod. She's an MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR NBC News. News correspondent Hans Nichols joins US and former chief of staff at the CIA and Department of Defense and NBC News National Security Endless Jeremy Bash a To get to this morning but there was a big game this weekend there was Liverpool ended up beating Man City three nine all the kids talking about. They're it also. That was a little game that went on in Tuscaloosa Alabama. And you were there. Jonathan Lemaire the curse I mean of the Bambino. You're covering it the curse of the Bambi. No of course secondary secondary now to the curse as the kids are saying in Tuscaloosa of trump curse of the bamboos as Alabama my beloved Alabama. Emma loses to LSU condolences. Joe Tied Gut rolled at least on one Saturday. The president was in the midst of recent run of sporting events. Trying to find a place where he would be each year we know that he was at the World Series Game Five in Washington a few weeks ago where he was roundly booed following that he was here in New York City for a UFC match asks. Ask regarding where the response was decidedly split. But as you can see here in this video he received a warring ovation in Tuscaloosa on Saturday ahead of the Alabama Lsu game and Stuck around for what was a classic game I know your team did lose their in the end Joe But this was something the president wanted And the backdrop of of course as it comes as jeff sessions. His former ally turned fo Someone who with whom. He is still very very angry for accusing of stuff. From the Russia Russia probe announced that he would be jumping back into it for the race to get his old seat. The Senate seat in Alabama the president has said even privately. He's furious at this and has mused about public campaign against sessions. At least far. He said he wants. He's going to hold his tongue but it should be noted. He brought one of sessions rivals for the seat to sit with him at the game. I'm just going to say is I never thought I would see the day where Bryant Denny Stadium would would actually come complete with a Polo Bureau. Viewing stand where you would have. Some candidates allowed it to sit next to Brezhnev to show favor to the crowd and others Bradley Byrne and Others Jeff Sessions not actually allowed to seek Mexico Donald Trump. I'm not even sure. He was part of the tailgate festivities outside the stadium. Jeff Sessions Joe Liverpool great gap and a commanding lead early in the season. So far. It's one early. I exactly how how these it's crazy enough. You follow English premier football usually after the first or second match. They'll go well that's disease it's all over. It's a very long season and and boy. What a long game was a great game down Alabama down thirty three to thirteen halftime came back and of course make it was watching and Carr's mom was watching and they get to hear me scream louder at a television set they've ever heard before it was all a fun? Automatic left the room she goes. I like the ones in Purple Shirt for Lsu. She was no notice you studying credible catch the guy. I was just out but he lives in that. Make sense all right. You get a helmet. We'll get to the ones in purple. It is that AH for Lamelo in a moment. We're GONNA get to. What will be a very big week in the impeachment inquiry but I some really interesting new poll numbers to tell? Are you about the latest numbers from the New York Times. CNN College Poland. Six key battlegrounds show former vice president. Joe Biden leads. The Democratic primary field in five five of the six states biden has an eight to nine point advantage in Arizona. Florida and Michigan in North Carolina Biden is ahead by fourteen points and up twelve points in Pennsylvania in Wisconsin Biden and senator Elizabeth. Warren are statistically tied for first Adrian. Here we go again. Ah Joe Biden Fares well not only against Donald Trump in the swing state seafarers much better against Democrats themselves in this intermural intermural battle in these swing states again. The the question and again. It's a question. A lot of people are asking. Because they're trying to figure out whether Biden is going to make in South Carolina if he finishes in fourth in Iowa and New Hampshire. The question is will Joe Biden ever be given an opportunity to show where his strength lies. Yeah well Joe. That's the big question here and we know that in a lot of stays there are still voters who were undecided. Still a significant number of voters who are undecided but Joe Biden Heiden is remain at the top of the polls and some of these very key battlegrounds despite what Donald Trump is trying to try. been trying to do with impeachment and the Ukraine situation. He is still remaining raining on top and the question becomes where are things in December where things in January. We know that when people when families go home for Thanksgiving winging have long conversations off work for a couple of days that's when people really start to solidify their decisions in terms of who they're supporting in this primary so far though Joe Biden despite the fact that he's had some campaign stumbles especially on the fundraising front. He's still remains on top. So it's going to be interesting to see how the the next few weeks shakeout when voters really start to make their decisions early a tale of two races and and the first star Star those early States Iowa New Hampshire. Where Joe Biden's not doing well but you move beyond that if you could South Carolina if you look at most of the other states around the country Joe Biden's doing well but again? How does Biden Juror a poor finish in Iowa? A poor finish in New Hampshire and still does the momentous Arou- momentum shifts. Of course. There is a solution to that. Joe Biden can actually double down in Iowa Actually I have a strong showing there. 'cause the strong showing by Joe Biden and I actually like Barack Obama in two thousand eight really paves away a towards a nomination when if he can do it but right now he just can't seem to gain any momentum in the first state and some more on the prospect of former New York City Mayor Michael a Bloomberg potentially entering the Democratic primary race sources. Tell Ossius that the decision to file paperwork was partly a trial balloon to gauge edge interest and preserve his options but Bloomberg's own extensive polling remains far from convincing reportedly showing big perhaps CBS in surmountable hurdles particularly if former vice president. Joe Biden stays in the race a new morning consult political poll puts Bloomberg in in sixth place among other Democratic presidential hopefuls while a hypothetical matchup shows the former New York City mayor six points ahead of president trump fairly eerily similar to the top Democratic candidates and Jonathan Lemaire. What do you make of these numbers? Many hasn't jumped in But these numbers certainly our guiding getting a good gauge for him. I'm seeing a lot of people saying please by Fox News on twitter to Mike Making please make that your first campaign pain moves. He does have the money. Oh He's certainly. Does he get by Fox Hole Times over. I think yeah. There's certainly been some of that from the Democratic field right now suggesting that if Bloomberg wanted to make a positive impact on this race he should use his money in a different fashion. Perhaps even if he wanted he was concerned about if he's concerned about Joe Biden wants to support another moderate candidate. Then donate a couple of hundred million dollars to SUPERPAC that would back. I don't know Amy Klobuchar Cory Booker or someone like that. It remains to be seen. What sort of appetite? There really is here for Bloomberg in the Democratic field. Look his time his tenure here in New York City by many measures was very successful mayor but some of the positions he holds. They're out of step with where the Democratic Party is right now. His Defensive Stop and Frisk instance is a large one and not the only one even as though he's very very good for Democrats on issues like gun control and Climate Change Change It remains to be seen. It's also such gamble. We're hearing his aides. We talked to them. This weekend suggests that he's going to skip the first couple of contests he's not gonNA play. And I wanted to Hampshire plays. It's like that instead. Just go all in on Super Tuesday and some of the big states like California where he can use his basically unlimited resources to be a factor there Perhaps and I think if he does that that would be detrimental to Joe Biden which might actually help Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders who Bloomberg is concerned might grab the nomination. But I do think we need to wait. Wait here. There is still a chance that few days before New Hampshire that Bloomberg does take a look at the field he is look. He is data driven. Clear eyed on stuff like this and if he doesn't see a path and let's remember in the spring he didn't he may not eventually jump at boy and therein lies. Actually one of the problems with the decision making as it pertains to Michael Bloomberg the people around Michael Bloomberg it is so data driven That that sometimes sir he cuts himself off and he has in the past because he doesn't see it right there the data in front of him but they is always changing. You look at that. Donald trump four years ago. The data wasn't there for for Donald Trump. He was not liked in the Republican Party. He had very high disapproval ratings in the Republican Party party. That's why people were constantly saying there was no way he would ever win. Well Michael Bloomberg if he looks at the data as it is right now now before he gets into the race as a chance to shape it. Well he's not gonNA jump into the race and this year will be just like every year before that only gets into the race. He may end up just pulling four five six percent but you never really know this is a year where you can throw every you know all the predictions out the window because again maybe Pete Wins I will maybe Elizabeth Warren Wins South Carolina. And at that point Joe Biden may not even be in the race and Bloom Bloomberg could be off to the races and yes fair so risk does well one of those early states but again. That's what politics it's about. Yeah they're they're always moving parts and you have to be able to respond and being nimble every second of a campaign and and so if he's just sitting there in New York staring at data he will remain frozen for the rest of his life politics all right now to the news former ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley claims and her new book that she refused attempts by two of president. Trump's top advisors advisors former secretary of state REX Tillerson and former White House chief of staff John Kelly to undermine the President Haley writes in her new book quote Kellyanne Tillerson confided in me that when they resisted the president they weren't being subordinate. They were trying to save the country country. It was their decisions. Not The president that we're in the best interests of America. They said the president didn't know what he was doing. She also wrote that Tillerson told her that the reason he resisted. The president's decisions was because if he didn't people would die when asked about the quotes. Haley stood by them in a recent interview. It absolutely happened and instead of saying that to me they should have been saying that to the president. Not asking me to join them on their sidebar plan. It should have been go. Tell the president what your differences are in. quit if you don't like what he's doing but to undermine undermine a president is really a very dangerous thing and it goes against the constitution and it goes against what the American people want and it was the offensive tillerson that provide immediate comment. NBC News Kelly told The Washington Post if giving trump quote the best and most open legal and ethical staffing advice from across the government so we could make an informed decision is working against trump then guilty as charged president president trump praised saline a tweet yesterday of course promoting her new book. Jeremy Bash Nikki. Haley is not dumb. In fact we know her. She's quite intelligent But she certainly is playing a game here. She others say on accoring it is staggering. She understands that at times. And we've heard this from the administration time and time again. People have ignored. The president's orders is because they were illegal. The president has ordered a cabinet members to actually execute orders. That are illegal legal. There are other times that that Nikki Haley is right. There were times that Tillerson Kelly Mattis pushed back what Donald Trump was was trying to do because people would die. People get killed. Oh wait what example could we bring up. Oh Hey here's one Syria. They pushed back on the president pulling out of Syria and turning Syria and the Middle East over to of Ladimir Putin and Russia for months and when he found he could no longer push back anymore it was of course General Mattis who did resign and so can all people did quit they get cleared out and guess what people died. Turkey began an ethnic cleansing of the Kurds. So Yeah Yeah Nikki. Haley's right. People were pushing back the president's worst instincts when everybody inside the White Dow's including Nikki. Haley Nikki Haley especially new Donald. J trump was not up to being commander in chief and without help he was going to get a lot of people killed this. Joe Is revisionist history here because Nikki Haley when she was serving his UN ambassador also internally opposed many of the policies that president was advancing. She was there a line. With General Mattis Secretary Mattis John Kelly Brex Tillerson and others in opposing examples of the way the president was taking us to the brink of a nuclear conflict with North Korea. amping up the rhetoric and taking nearly early to a situation which John Kelly told people we nearly got ourselves into a nuclear tit-for-tat with the North Koreans. So this I think is her attempt now to realign herself self with perhaps what she perceives a stronger base within her own party sort of finger in the wind strategy both to sell books but also to sort of say. Hey Mr President isn't I'm with you and if you should go down by the way if you are removed from office or if somehow you don't win again I WANNA be the one to pick up the mantle of trumpism. This is I think this is a bad look for her. Because I think it not only is inconsistent with where she's been but it also puts on the wrong side of history about some of these big policy Halsey decisions. Another question is if did she raise. These matters with the president if REX Tillerson or John. Kelly were undermining in her belief. The president's AIDS did he did did he go did she go to Donald Trump and also let me ask you this like this is also way that we've seen this before there's been speculation in Washington. I don't think people take it all that seriously that we've had months where people every wonder about the future of Mike Pence on this ticket and it seems like that happens every time Nikki. Haley does something. And she's the rumored candidate she's often has even sort of raised the issue only to knock it down. Where do you see this going so when I initially read the these comments I thought wow this is big and yet she did talk about the twenty minute right? She didn't end the she's alleging couch to have done. which he's A? Legend tillerson done is basically bureaucratic infighting. Right this isn't a major. She didn't know that she went to the presence at by the way John. Kelly is working against. You should should dismiss him so that'd be good. That'd be a big headline if she said by the way John Kelly until there's a winter Mike Pence and talked about the twenty fifth amendment. Wow We'd be talking about that and a lot of ways. This is just Nikki. Nikki Haley presenting a position. Yourself for twenty twenty four and I'm happy to talk about twenty twenty. Let's skip ahead in two thousand twenty twenty twenty eight right. Let's think and for your cycles and Jokin looking back at the math and shows how smart with Naci sequence or something like that. But what's interesting about Nikki. Haley is that she always finds a way to insert herself into the news. Cycle preserve both sides of it right. She's she can. She can still claim to be well. I was against the president but I- privately counseled him on whatever. Subject comes out of fashion and twenty twenty four and yet right now. She's sticking close himself. Yeah I think the pen stuff is interesting. But until someone says the twenty-fifth amendment and we have that from inside not the not anonymous then I think a lot of this is just kind of morning Chitchat. But we're doing morning Shicheng can a I mean let's go back to that Joe you're you're KLOPP versus versus nick. Sabin you give them a basketball team. Who would you rather have them coach? I can't answer that. Glad you're more or he's more of a cultural anthropologist. Nick Sabin details guy you give them the Turkish national team. Who who do you want to coach? It's Monday morning Patrick. Why don't we ask that question? Answer the question. Save our cloth with the Turkish the basketball team. The answer is red. SOx manager Alex Cora. Okay very good talking with your excuse me Hans Chitchat. Side kloppers extraordinary. I'll tell you I don't think that this Nikki. Haley news is just morning Chitchat. I think that she's is put out a book that she thinks. Positions yourself for vice president because maybe pence is on the line or something but if you read it and you look at what she says she basically talks about Tillerson and Kelly you could add to the mix doing a valiant effort to deal with something nobody has ever seen before that seems James insidious and bad for this country and that people will die and she says that. If you don't like it quit let me check. I think they did. And as you pointed out people died and so we have to like actually elevate. What's important about this book and I actually don't think it's what Nikki Haley or the president who might be probably working together given the fact that he got? He gave her the stamp of approval on his twitter. You know right after the interview aired. I don't think they're getting what they want out of this book because it's actually backing up. What is what exactly has happened? And that there are patriots who tried their best best inside the White House and then had to leave the Patriots inside. The White House can quit. They did the Patriots inside of the White House. That actually were doing the work. Not of Liberals or the deep state but of Republicans on Capitol Hill who were talking to them. All along about pushing back on the president on Syria pushing back on the president turning for Middle East over to Iran pushing back on the president turning the Middle East back over to isis pushing pushing back on the president turning the Middle East over to Vladimir Putin and Assad and Iran's Mola's to let them take over and run roughshod roughshod and actually threaten Israel's standing in that region so if Nikki Haley we're doing this actually burnish her credentials with even the entire Republican Party. That's certainly didn't work. But you know we. This wasn't about the whole Republican Party. A this wasn't about the trump press. This wasn't this wasn't even about book buyers for Nikki Haley. This was an audience of one. Yeah She's trying to actually. She's putting herself in position to be Mike Pence's replacement if the president decides Zeitz. He needs to replace Mike Pence. And this was an audition just like Bob Barr wrote that Memo Donald Trump Phil far hook line and sinker and became attorney general. That's exactly what this book is is all about. And you know I do have to follow up with what Hans said and Jonathan Mirror that she's actually made bureaucratic infighting sound treasonous PSOMAS. There's not only happens. In the trump administration this happened in the Bush administration. It happened in the Clinton administration. This happens in every administration it's called bureaucratic infighting and I just a I just wonder how many times did Nikki Haley go to the president of the United States. Did she go right after her tillerson and Kelly said something to her because if she didn't and she thought this was disloyal then she too was being being disloyal she heard a conspiracy in her mind against the president. Did she act on and of course the president will lie today and say she came to me several. No that would have made the news. Jonathan Jonathan Will Mirror I'll ask you in closing. Was One time one time that you ever heard of Nikki. Haley running to the president the United States and complaining in real time that General Kelly Rex Tillerson. Our General Mattis were being insubordinate aboard it to the president of the United States. Not According to the reporting that we've seen so far that we've heard no complaint about Larry Kudlow and that incident early on in the administration where she felt choosing loop on something but no and I think that is a question that needs to be put to the president today whether he answers truthfully not as you say the remains to be seen gene and to answer and to embassador Haley. They'll give this was something that you believe was a plot to bring down this administration from within. Did you raise this with the president. Yeah and if you thought it was so wrong. Why didn't she do anything? Still Ahead on Morning Joe. We mentioned Mayor Pete's position in the polls. He's at the center of several WPRO. Big Stores over the weekend but I the impeachment inquiry into president trump will break down. WHO's testifying who's not least not yet? John Bolton in could have plenty to add to that investigation and as we go to break some breaking news from Capitol Hill Republican Congressman. Peter King has just announced he he will not run for re election in twenty twenty. The New York Republican Tha that after spending four days a week in Washington it is time to end. The weekly Commute King says his decision was not an easy one adding his poll numbers our strong as they have ever been and that he has more than one million dollars in campaign funds. You're watching morning Joe. We'll be right back. Twenty nine past the our live look at Capitol Hill as the sun comes up over Washington. It's expected to be a busy week. There and the impeachment probe as it now moves from behind in closed doors to public proceedings. The hearings are expected to open Wednesday with the acting. US Ambassador Ukraine. Bill Taylor who testified that he was told old everything. Ukraine wanted military aid and a White House visit were contingent on announcing investigations into the two thousand sixteen election and the Biden's senior State Department official. George Kent is also set to testify publicly on Wednesday. He also told lawmakers that at a White House visit was contingent on a promise from Ukraine to launch those investigations and on Friday ousted. US Ambassador Mariya Ivanovich is expected to testify. She's already told impeachment investigators that she felt threatened. When president trump told Ukraine's president in in that July twenty fifth phone call that she would quote? Go through some things. Yeah I wonder what a thuggish. What a thuggish thing for a president any president to say and of course president would say such hard enough to be an ambassador? Certainly let alone to have your president undermining you and threatening you exactly so so Jeremy Bash let me ask you a what. What should we expect this week in the testimony from Taylor can't and Uganda Vich? Well I think Democrats are smart to lead off with Bill Taylor. Who is Bill Taylor? Bill Taylor is a career foreign service officer. He started his public service career as an army Army officer serving in Vietnam serving the one hundred first airborne He's got combat experience devote his life to public service. He served every every President Republican and Democrat since the one thousand nine hundred eighty S. He's not a political figure in fact if anything. He was recruited by this administration by Secretary Pompeo earlier this year to come over and take back his old job as the president's on voter Ukraine so he's not a never-trumper he's not a democrat. He is a career public service official. And why I think he's going to say I think he's going to say very clearly as look I was there I was in the discussions. The shake down the demand of presidents Alinsky was. It's clear as a bell. The United States was not going to give military assistance. They were not going to offer a White House visit unless the Ukrainians investigated trump's political critics. And I think it's very very clear that Bill Taylor's testimony which we've now seen the transcript of is going to be straightforward into good leadoff day for the Democrats so Jonathan WanNa ask you a question then you you can go go to Hans and ask him whatever sort of secretary versus Tyson boxing. Match question you want to act taking in such in such a match old Simpson's reference by the way but so what. What is the president? Fear the most I in this coming week of testimony. Well if there's anyone out there who's aware of the power of televised visuals those images. It's president trump who has spent his whole career as a television reality host and everything about his campaign and presidency trying to project power trying to dominate the cable news landscape. And that's what's going to happen happened this week. Republicans to this point had been fighting mostly just on process and that's GonNa go away their their claims of this being done in secrecy this being done in the basement. They're really fixated on the location of that. Not Recognizing the course. That's just where the skiff is It's a matter of geography not secrecy. Hans I mean this seems like you know I. I think we can anticipate we're gonNA hear from the president angry tweets but there's still no formal war room. What do you see coming? Well additional people becoming on whether or not those people be able to manage and massage the message. That's open questions right. It's the president is thumbs. I think we had something significance late Saturday night from the president's twitter feed that is he directly seemed to be attacking all called her lawyer now before his line on you vanish was that. Oh she sounds like a nice lady. She's you know in in the past. He's generally talked about all these witnesses being never-trumpers this is the first time he's direct. We challenged and attacked Marie. Ivanovich and I think we can expect to see more of fat from the president. Didn't that this is going to be very public. There'll be more attention but also GONNA get really messy and really really ugly and we'll see to what extent the president uses ad Hominem attacks WCHS on individuals that are testifying against him for the May. May I was invited. I'm thinking about it. It's right in the middle of our campaign season but I am thinking I would certainly think about it. President Putin invited me to the As a very big it's a very big deal Celebrating the end of the war. That that's a big deal so I appreciate the invitation. It is right in the middle of political season. So I'll see if I could do it but I would love to go up by good president trump on on Friday saying that he is considering accepting President Vladimir Putin's invitation to attend Russia's Victory Day festivities next year but the twenty twenty election. Listen cycle might get in the way so so Hans. Let me start with you before There's this collective gasp that Donald Trump would actually go to Russia to celebrate the end of the war. I so ambassador Burns. Nick Burns others talk about the fact that hey wait a second Russia really. Along with Britain Russia was our most critical ally during World War. Two the Russians Sion's sacrificed lives gave more in that war just exponentially than any other country on on the planet because because of Hitler's invasion of Russia and just the millions and millions of Russians. Who Died? I've always felt a little strange. I said even in the D Day ceremonies that there wasn't a Russian presence it seems to me on this anniversary of the ending of the war at some point we all have to say okay. Hold on. Let's just let's have a political arm assist here and figure out a way to recognize recognize Russia for all the help they provided us in a World War Two along with all the other allies in winning that war. It's it's a nice sentiment. I don't know if our if our politics right now allows us to to pause and take note and to honor the sacrifice on on all right. Obviously it's veterans day today. I mean the sacrifices that Russians had of their is. They're pushing westward across the Oder River in April of forty five. I mean they can. They can see ruin in the distance and yet. They're still suffering so many defeats. I think what's interesting to me about. The potential may visit. And it's awesome. Forget the president also suggested he might be going to India next year but about a May visit. Is that then right after we have the G seven in American. We don't know where it's going to be in America we don't and we know what's the word is not going to be. It's not going to be up. And the president is always held out the prospect of inviting Putin obviously not a member Russia no longer member of G G G eight navigate seven so you have these dueling visits in May and let's just think about what the world's going to look like in May right. I mean you could have a Democratic primary. That's continue to going on you. You're we've been gearing up for the conventions the president's going to mean we have no idea what's going to happen in Iran. What's GonNa what happened North Korea? I mean the pageantry of the trump administration. They're always thinking another step ahead on how they can dominate new cycles. And it's GonNa be fascinating me gets this point that I want to. I want to take back my morning. Chitchat comment I wanted clarify permission to clarify on all these books on all these when we hear something that's like can can be so devastating so damning about the trump administration. No one ever really owns it right. We thought Mattis would come out and tell us everything but Mattis was pretty pretty mild in his and this I felt the same thing about Nikki. Haley book I think it's important She's obviously additioning for something. The audience of one and all that stuff is true but she doesn't really and we don't. We'd none of us have the full book yet. Except for a few excerpts. She doesn't really come. And give us anecdotes. Upon which to hang story and you think that the trump administration that is so oh into narratives and understands narratives better the most we see that when the president announces the Baghdadi rate he gives us this. play-by-play may not be true but he gives us play. I play with the dog attacking wreck data. You know there aren't the anecdotes to sustain a longer narrative and that's what I mean even anonymous. We all really looking looking forward to anonymous. Did anonymous that many anecdotes and button this up. But whenever he talked to former administration officials say what's it like in there they say go more or less crazy crazy than I expected to be and they always say more crazy. I'm like what. Tell me. Give me a detail I mean I feel like you're talking to your kids. And he asked me how school is fine. Good tell me get beat up digit. Did something happen you know. No no no no we already I. Actually I think the I thought it was Nikki. Haley again being careful trying to have it both ways and making bureaucratic infighting again again. Sound much worse than this. I'm just curious Jeremy Bash. What your thoughts are? I'M NOT SAYING DONALD TRUMP should go to Russia. I think I think though that some point the United States needs to recognize and a very public way remarkable sacrifice. The Russian People Ville made in the defeat of Hitler along with all of our other allies. But I'm just wondering whether Donald Trump can actually be that president because of everything everything that's preceded it and the fact that there are a lot of people in America who believed that Donald Trump is either an age of Russia or at least a useful idiot. Also let him lay a wreath at the world. War Two memorial on the National Mall. He doesn't have to be Putin's prop in a May Day parade. which is you were just an effort by Putin to put his arm around trump and say we're working together? And how is that going for America. I just got back on Friday from the Middle East from. I'm a country around Syria and the clear message was as that with America's withdrawal from Syria. Who has moved in Russia has moved in Iran has moved in and they're threatening Israel? They're creating a land bridge between Iran Iraq Syria and Lebanon. His is growing in strength. They've got one hundred. Precision guided munitions aimed at Israel. They've got armed drones. They've got a capability surrounding our ally in the region and this is really all in part as they see it through. There is as America withdrawing you know in the Middle East. They don't talk about trump withdrawing they say America is withdrawn so whatever. The president has announced whatever he's doing with Putin has really been to the detriment of American National Security Agree Jeremy and Hans thanks to you both back for some Chitchat. No Yeah Hey morning Joe Family Willie geist here. If you like the long deep dive conversations on Morning Joe Every day I think you will love my Sunday. Sit Down podcast every week. A new extended unedited interview with another big star with names from Bill. Murray Jerry Seinfeld and Kevin Hart to Aina Garton clarify Mykonos Mark Walberg Ryan Reynolds Lenny Kravitz and yes Jaylo. I could continue name dropping but you get the the idea you can check out the free Sunday. 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