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"And I'd love to see tanak. If you can just take the fight to Roman pair until I to that would be mega. You know that Hyundai will be there and there abouts, there winsome rallies. I just can't see anyone on that team that's going to win a world championship with them now. Tyrannosaur found sorry about that, but I mean, he is almost contractually obliged to finish second or third of the championship. I think you or I called him always the bridesmaid never the bride recently, and now noville fan turned up on my doorstep. I think we got away with that. He will do some brilliant rallies during the course of the season. He'd also have some drama. He'll have a few moans. He'll finish second or third. I think we need tan actor and maybe actually em sport. We know Tanaka in the world championship. In the past, can they gel and get that puma working? I guess that's the thing I'm looking forward to. It's almost like what we're talking about with F one earlier where you need those three teams to be truly competing at the front on a regular basis. And if tanakh can elevate and support to that level, then that would be brilliant and it just adds to the intrigue, doesn't it rather than being another series where a Toyota walking away? Is it bad that I also really like it with maybe it's my age when Sebastian AJ rocks up and wins on his part time I just think that's really fun. Obviously Loeb did it last year and he's properly ancient now he's even older than me. And a rye rocks up and beats their okay sage should have won in Monte in 20 22 and did win it this year. The two steps are just great. I love it when they rock up and yeah, I think I believe with that is it just reminds you are we actually missing something I think we are. But then how long do they establish Meg stars hang around to Lewis Hamilton question yeah do you want them to get a bit odd you want them to quit while they're still ahead. It's interesting. But yeah, we need to turn out versus road in parallel. That's what we want. I think the cars are great and these new hybrid cars I think good to watch still sound good. They're still raspy enough rallying on boards are awesome. That's the one thing that lets Formula One down a little bit. Although not because of the cameras and stuff, they've done loads of great work around that and helmet cams and all the rest. Everyone's got a helmet for the one this year. See more of that. That's all great. But just the impression of speed you get with the rally, it looks hard. When you get an onboard of rallying, it looks like you look at that and go, oh my God, I could never do this. Yes. Because they were always on the edge of a massive show. Spectators car in the ditch dog running across the road, whatever it is. F one and circuit racing looks easy. Obviously, we know that it isn't at all. But raw oh my God moment looking at some rally footage or even if you're stood by the bank in Finland and it comes fly past that head height a 120 miles an hour or whatever. You think these guys are nuts. And I see that on I see that comment online a lot is like, why do Formula One on boards of Senna look so scary? And well, there's lots of reasons. Because the technology is improved now. So everything's nice and stabilized. It's got little gyros and nothing's shaky. The circuits are bigger, like the circuit. There's perspective, the camera angles are elongated. There's lots of reasons. They do a really good job of giving it an impression of speed. And the Formula One coverage is fantastic. But it tech is so good. The cars don't look fast. Yeah. And also, the thing that the camera obviously is you say moves around, but also like gear changing. And that's also one hand on the wheel. Yeah, that's awesome. Paddle shift, which calls the rally car tab as well. But with the rally cars, it's sideways. It's what you can see out through the window, just looks like. And because they're sideways, if you're looking forward, they're pointing at a building or a group of spectators or whatever it is. I think one of the cars last year, maybe on Lando's car they were using the pedal box cam quite a lot. That's correct. I really like that because that really gets across the talent involved in balance. And under the on screen graphics show you what they're doing, but when you can see their feet working with their hands, I think that's a really big difference. So more of that place. Let's talk about Formula One. The support series. What do you think about that building excitement this year? Well, it's interesting. We were talking earlier about whether 400 E should be a support series. Actually, there's a little bit of a change this year in the sense that F two will be heading over to Melbourne for the Australian Grand Prix, which is a great sort of different track for the drives to experience traditionally F two and F three have focused on the European events and then some of the end of season ones. So to have them in Melbourne, a new challenge for the drivers, a very different sort of track to the majority that they'll be competing on. That would be really interesting to see. And also we've got F three taking to the streets and Monaco. So again, just throwing these more challenges more variety for these drivers and getting them another chance to sample the variety of different tracks that they could well be racing on if they progress them all the way up to F one in the coming years. And we've
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"Let's find out. Today we ask can Hyundai pick up where they left off. How will we call Robin pair of cope with the weights? On his shoulders are being the champion. And do we have a true, true, three way fights for the first time in a long time in 2023, let's get up to speed with our rally man Tom Howard. Hey Tom, welcome back to the auto sport podcast. You must be so excited about rally this year. Yeah, no, it's really exciting. If we weren't already excited by the new cars and everything last year, this year, perhaps the excitement was even more because as you said there, we've got new drivers, new driver lineups and rally winners or champions, should we say in each of the teams, which is a spicy concoction there ready for a real real tight title fight which we're all looking forward to. Let's tell our listeners why and I'll see if I can make my case as we do this next 15 minutes of why I think WRC is about to wake up to a wider audience. I'm actually not going to start without new world champion we'll get to him in a moment, but rather a former one. Oit tanak comes into M sport. Now that team know, they have signed somebody who they simply must deliver for. He's a star signing. Do you think M sport can rise to the occasion? So firstly, we should just clear up for anyone who doesn't follow the reality that aim sport isn't a full manufacturer back team like Toyota and Hyundai. So they don't quite have the same resource as those two. So they really have to sort of cut their cloth accordingly. But for this, after a dismal, should we say dismal last season where they only had one win, which is Monte Carlo, and a couple of podiums after that. They needed to make some changes. Malcolm Wilson, the team boss. He doesn't come here just to make up the numbers. He comes in to win rallies into wind tiles. So he's cut his coffin called me. We've got two full-time entrance, and one of those is the 2019 world champion. He left high and die after three years at the end of last year with a year contract still on the year still on his contract. So he was quite unhappy with how things went behind the relationship kind of broke down. He needed a somewhere new to go and he's rejoined eSport, which is the team that gave him his first break back in 2011. And it's where he's got his first parody in his first win. So there's a lot of history. It's a homecoming of sorts. And this is really the sort of key piece in the puzzle frames for what they needed a world champion or a genuine rally winner to lift and to spearhead their challenge and in order to get one. But to answer your question, can they deliver for him? There is no option other than they have to. They have to deliver for it tanak. Yes, they don't have the resource, but it has been assured that the development will continue with the puma. They do have a very strong relationship with Ford in the U.S. Ford performance who helped design the puma. So they do have the resource there, not perhaps not quite as much as the other two teams, but if they nail their direction of development correctly and oit gives them the feedback that they need to do that and the two combine, you have got a genuine title contender in their possibility and one thing we're also going to support is they've been clever here in terms of only putting out two full-time cars last season, they perhaps overstretched their resources, running 5 cars sometimes, and you could see that it was too much. Scaling back to two really puts the focus on making sure that they can give everything they need to owe it to him to do or for him to challenge for his title with Pierre Louis lube as a really worthy assistant in the second car. So yes, my answer is yes, but we were wait and see. What a tan X qualities that you think could bring the title to M sport. There's no question marks are about his ability. We've seen what he can do and he's won a world title in 2019 with Toyota. He was extremely dominant that year. And let's not forget that that was sort of the only sort of gap in before Cali struck last year. It's the only gap in the sort of Sebastian rain where Loeb and OJ dominated for decades. So he can beat the best, but also what probably stands out last year more than ever was his ability to extract the most out of the car that perhaps isn't the best. So this could be key for M sport in terms of if it is found that the pure is maybe slightly lacking compared to the high end iron Toyotas in tanakh, they've got someone who can rise above that, shall we say, because infinite last year in a high end it was quite wayward tannic was supreme and managed to be able to beat Kelly Robin pere in the best machine out there. So that's probably the skill work tanak is the fact that he can really wrangle the best out of anything. And I think this is where his skills are really kind of come to the forks. He's got to learn a new car, new team, but I don't have any concerns over that. I'm pretty sure he will get that pretty quickly and he'll be on the pies for the rest. Next, Hyundai, what about the hierarchy at that team? And the leadership Nigerian monse was the man who had to take over at short notice last year and there was a brand new car, new set of regulations, new hybrid power, he's no longer in charge though. What happened there? So Hyundai is a very curious case if you look at last season because if you look at it on paper, it was their most successful year ever. They didn't win any titles, but they won 5 rallies, which is the most I've ever done in a single season, but that is only a snippet of the story because they were so far behind up to 6 months behind their opposition because of a light green light to join the new regulations so the car was delayed. Then they lost a longtime team prince Andrea damo, who left in December. There was a huge testing accident for Tyrion noville, so at Karl's written off. So they were chasing their tiles for basically the first half of the season with an underdeveloped and an unreliable I 20 N but credit to Julian monse and despite a lot of leadership struggle, should we say because he was sort of just trusted into sort of a control when we didn't know if he was going to be replaced mid season or whether he was going to be there the whole year. It's hard for him to do that. But he managed to bring the team to get it to score 5 ready wins in the second half of the year. They outscored Toyota, which were the champions. So they closed the gap, remarkably. And it points us get enough credit for what they did there. So in many ways, I'm very excited to see what they do this year because if they can close the gap from being that far behind it start the season. What are we going to see if there are much more equal staff to this year? Will we actually see Hyundai actually overtake to us? Because the way that they were going at the second half of the year, it was suggesting that they were going to. So both teams have made changes to their cars and certainly in the aero department on both cars and the engine on the Toyota. So we will see, but I think we have generally going to see quite a strong challenge from Hyundai and now under the new management with Cyril, a B 12 coming in. His Formula One experience. What I've actually written in the column for the magazine this week is I feel like, yes, Cyril doesn't have the rally experience, but his man
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"With that. I think no doubt about the fact that he is jealous with these new generation of cars better than anyone else. And certainly this GI yaris that he's got the moment. If you look at the way he sort of pitches a car into a corner, 9 times out of ten, he has the absolutely perfectly controlled in a slide. There's no corrections. It's just one effort, whereas perhaps some of the other drivers are sort of having a few saws on the wheel to try and make sure that they get it through the corner, how they want. There is definitely that part of it, but to be honest with you, like obviously, as we saw last year, he was very capable in the hands of that old car and got two wins in that. So there is a skill there an element of skill there that has got into this point. Shall we say? You've spent this year in the service parks with him. Tell us a little bit about what kind of man he is. And what kind of racing driver he is. Well, as you know, as a fan, he does have that sort of quite reserved nature, and sometimes when you talk to him, you do get some sort of quite short direct answers, but also what I would say is he's got a wicked sense of humor as well. Certainly, he can he's quite a cheeky kind of chap and does like to have a little joke and him having Johnny houseman and his coach over let's not forget yoni like those two together are a great little double act and they clearly share the same sort of sense of humor and in the car Kelly sometimes he'll have a wild moment and he'll sort of just chuckle to himself while he's driving and it's stuff like that that is quite amusing and Croatia was probably perhaps one of the most sort of amusing moments for Cali in terms of he was locked in a real fight with like tanak at high and die and tannic had laid down a really nice stage time and the stage and reporter after Khalid come through and blitz that stage time after what was your what was your reply to Tanaka and he sort of literally took his crash helmet off and on the back of his crash helmet he has his catch phrase painted which is full send and he just pointed to it and said this is my reply. And it's just cheeky little moments like that. But this is important for the sport. You need to have characters like this and rallying has always had those sort of funny moments at staging interviews and he's really sort of played into that as well. So yeah, he's sort of double persona in terms of his very, very cool, very, very calm and collected. Doesn't give away anything too much. You know, he's got quite a bit of a poker face, but when he wants to have a bit of fun, he's he can certainly dish it out and it's very entertaining. Thinking about I jotted down some of the names that I could think of finish racing drivers before the podcast were like Valtteri Bottas and make you hacking and hokey linen, Kimi Räikkönen Tommy McEnany, the toy vanens. Yes. And it's like, there are some personalities in there which are more reserved when the microphone comes out, but then those that have been on social media in recent years or the instagrams, we do see them partying. So sometimes in front of the cameras, that nature can be a bit more reserved. But certainly, you know, we saw Cali dancing on the roof of his Toyota. Celebrating seller of writing with his co driver that win, just very quickly, we won't get into a whole rally review here. We have a channel called gravel notes, which you're very welcome to subscribe to. There's a rally review over on that channel. But how did he clinch it 8th career win like you say 6th of the year, which shows the dominance of 2020 to still with two rallies remaining. He just needed to bring the points home, but he didn't do that. He went for glory. Callie Robin Pereira was very much back to the full send Callie that we've come used to. Yeah, he only needed to outscore tanak by 8 points to win the championship, but did it in style with a 34.6 second victory over Sebastian ogier no less the 8 time world champion and outgoing world champion. Tanak was third, 46 seconds back. He had a few issues over the weekend and was unlucky as well. He's really been driving brilliantly, but has been let down by other factors sadly. But yes, Kelly, he actually needed to finish at least four fastest on the power stage to get a bonus two points which seal the title. But as we know with Cali, that's not how he rolls. So he went full attack into this man-made stage in front of a good 10,000 fans. It was a very, very, very cool spectacle. And I only went and won the power stage just to absolutely seal what would a perfect weekend a perfect win a 30 points and jumped up on the roof to celebrate with a dance that, as you said, it was quite amusing. A little bit out of character, but we asked him about that dance. And he did say that it was prepared, although Johnny houseman was not as prepared as Kali sure. It was brilliant to watch. I'd like to draw some comparisons to where this weekend in Japan we could see Max Verstappen, being a two time Formula One. World champion, we saw it was at this event when he was 17 that Toros I gave him his first test in a Formula One car. He is of course the sun of a successful racing driver. And he has broken the mold for being the youngest ever at certain times, so there are going to be natural parallels between Max Verstappen and Callie Robin pere a drawn. Do you think this win and this championship win at such a young age can do something for rallying that Max Verstappen with his battle with Hamilton did for Formula One, rallying is different, you know, the coverage on TV isn't there, but the social media coverage is certainly there. What can he do for the future of the sport? There are actually quite a lot of parallels between the Verstappen and the Robin pair. If you look at his career in Formula One, he wasn't super successful and Harry Rothenberg, you could argue he wasn't super successful either to some extent. So they do sort of have very sort of mirrored out looking away in terms of how they've sort of gone. They had a decent they both had decent careers, but their sons have gone on to have absolutely mega careers. I actually do believe that this will change the game for rallying in several ways. I think this will open the doors and show to people that or show to younger drivers that it firstly that is possible to be a world champion without being 28, 29 or 30. That might just encourage maybe a few more, but again, the opportunities are limited. So it's not just say, oh,
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"Following this one, prepare to be amazed. Colin McRae's previous record of being the youngest, world rally champion at 27, hasn't just been beaten. It just got smashed. Let's find out who just became the youngest ever champion how he ended Finland's 20 year wait for a title. And what he can do for the future of the sport. Let's get up to speed with autosports, Tom Howard Tom. Welcome back to the podcast. Thanks for having us. Back on the show. So you just witnessed history being made in New Zealand with the youngest ever champion. The world rally championship. Let's remind ourselves, though, who the previous youngest champion was, tell us more. The legend that is all that was sadly Colin mccrea, certainly for me, he was a hero of mine growing up one of the reasons why I even got hooked into watching rallying and I'm sure there's several people of similar age to myself and an older and younger that would have also enjoyed watching Colin McRae. He was a real special talent on the his only world title in 1995 and did that at the age of 27, which was the youngest at the time. 27 back there would have been seen very, very young because champions were sort of, you know, the late 20s, early 30s, and sometimes mid 30s were sort of seen as the prime age to win a world title. So yes, Conor McRae was known as the mister maxim of attack. He was a very exciting driver to watch race for Subaru, the factory team and his early 90s then went to Ford and then he had his final season with citron in 2003. He still regarded as one of the legends of the sport even today, 26 years on since his world title. And in the top level of rallying in the modern era, tell me about the recent champions. And how long they'd been driving? Were they also all older? Inverted commas. Champions. If you're not too familiar with rallying and WRC, then in the last few couple of decades, we say it's been dominated by two Sebastian's two French French rally drivers, Sebastian Loeb, and Sebastian ogier, Loeb has the 9 time world champion, the most successful and greatest rally driver of the ball. He has 80 world rally championship wins and has been competing even this year on a part time basis at the age of 48 and still winning events so Monte Carlo in January, so Sebastian ogier took over from him. One 8 titles and is the reigning world champion this year until Kelly Robin Perez success. That sort of period of dominance was split by tanak who won the world title in 2019 for Toyota. So that's how the world rally scene has played out over the last few years. While following rally New Zealand over the weekend, Callie Robin perra is now world champion. They call him king Kelly. You could also call him birthday boy. Tell us about the weekend and Callie Robin Pereira being the new world champion. What's a weekend if you or Kelly off of Paris celebrating your 22nd birthday? I don't know. He does get any better, I guess. If you're a rally driver or if you're if you're dream is to win the world rally champion, it doesn't get any better than the weekend that Callie Robin Perez just experienced not only has he become that the youngest ever world champion at the age of 22 and one day. He also became the first Finnish world champion for 20 years, so it ended that drought for a rally mad nation. So it's a massive deal for Finland. They've already announced that there's going to have a special celebration day in the country in his hometown of your vascular. So it's a big deal for Finland. And a big deal for Kelly Rothenberg. I mean, he's just a phenomenal talent. It's a record, I reckon we won't see beaten. A new benchmark, which I think is just above and beyond what anyone could have imagined. Now, he hasn't come from nowhere, like all overnight success stories. It's been 20 years in the making. Maybe 22 years in the making. Because in the beginning, there was Harry, Robin pere. Yep, Callie's father, WRC driver, 1993 to 2006. What happened with his dad's career and how did that lead into Cali getting behind the wheel? Harry Robin pere a former factory driver for Peugeot and sayat as well and it's a bushy. So he's been around a while as Harry. But I only ever won one rally back in 2001 at Sweden. So he was a regular podium finisher, but never really a title contender. He was what you'd call, I guess, a very safe pair of hands. You would have implored him to just pick up the points and be that sort of driver there, but perhaps not the one you put your money behind to lead your team to a title. He's really has some helped build obviously his son Kelly wrote from pair in terms of the rally driver. From an early age, he's got him in the car in cars driving from I think 8 or 9. He's been Cali has been driving some sort of vehicle. What do you think about it? Yes, he's the youngest of a world champion at the age of 22, but he's been driving things for a very long time. And our over that time, you just build the skills. Boy, as he built some skills because most of the paddock most of the service park sorry would envy the skills that Kali Roth and bear have his age. Certainly, you just watching him, he is he has skills beyond his years. The composure that he has behind the wheel, I don't think we have seen in many drivers in all motor sport. It's something that I generally can't really describe, but he just has this sort of, I just jump in the car and I just go and do it. There's no worries, there is no sort of panic. He's machine like, I guess. Is the only way to sort of it's just a machine. I'm generally speechless at how good he is because we're obviously fold him all season 6 rally wins. But he just has this ability to just destroy his rivals, but he's real skill. And I guess this is sort of comes back to all those years that you've been training in all sorts of cars, trying to learn car control. And it's his car control, which sets him about apart from the rest, because when the weather gets tricky, Cali rov repair is untouchable. There is no one that can come near him when it starts raining or gets slippery.
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"So, you know, do you swap them around or do you not? And where does that decision come from? And as I alluded to, Tom just explained we gather this came from the very, very top of the company, way, above the sort of. Making your point, and I'll have to say, you know, the team does come first at the end of it, doesn't it? Let's be honest. But in this situation, if they'd swapped naville and tanak, they'd still have the one two three. What does that say about the hierarchy within the team? Daniel wrote obviously Thierry has been there from day dot and so has sort of. So yes, they probably command that sort of respect. But this remember Terry is a four time runner up Tanaka is actually a world champion. So if you're going to go on, if you were going to make your hierarchy on who's one world championships, then comes ahead of newville. So and in this situation, Tanaka had the better points tally in the championship. So it's such a tricky one. Again, I would hate to be in that role of having to tell the drivers what they're doing. At the end of the day, we can sit and talk about it. But we all think, and we all expect Rogan pair of will win this title. But is it all this decision come back to buy them? If rovan pair continues to struggle and tanak misses the title by what 7 points, which is what he lost out on. In Greece, then it's one of those ifs, isn't it? What if happens, it's so difficult for the team and this one, but I just feel like given the situation of the rally, if they wanted to maximize their chance of a drivers and manufacturers double, perhaps switching, switching novel and tanning was the best call. But again, I'm not a team boss. I'm not a driver either. So I can completely understand why they didn't want to risk causing any problems and just settled for the Neville tanakh soldo one two three. Let's have a listen to our rally winner. Talking about that one, two, three. There's been a long time since Spain last year. We haven't been on the top step of the podium and
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"Little bit, but he just doesn't seem to feel pressure, which is such a worrying thought for everyone. And I don't think he really did feel any pressure at all over the weekend. He just simply what cost him a victory is just being having to open the roads on Friday. He was 21 seconds adrift at the end of Friday, which is just simply too much to catch up really when you're going up against someone like tannic. And he did his level best, he ended up 6.8 seconds shy in the end, so it just shows that how much he really pushed tanak. He did push him a lot. What was fascinating was it's such a great duel between them on Saturday and into Sunday. They in fact set identical times on two of the stages. That's how much they were pushing. It was extraordinary story performance, but unfortunately for Robert Perez, he sort of knew the game was up on Sunday. And yeah, he sort of engaged his sort of championship thinking and thought, you know, I just need to bring this home in second because I've got a massive championship lead, a desperately want to win this rally, but I don't want to throw it off the road either. So it's a very smart call for him on Sunday. He did, he did finish winning the power stage to give the fans plenty to cheer about, so there was plenty of excitement amongst the Finns, but yeah, second place. He could be proud of that and he said he said he was proud of that. I think that's what you have to say without Callie, but we will get on to us like a lappy, which is possibly one of the strangest things I've ever seen in my 16 years of doing motor sport journalism. A tease that you've just given there. That's what we call a, that's a nice little hook to keep. I still can't believe he finished third. And it's Tuesday. I'm still trying to fathom how he did this. But yeah, so yes, a peculiar story, which could be made into a film, I suppose. He was pretty much TEDx rival on Friday. I got to within 3.8 seconds of the lead. So it was really pushing. And the odds were looking quite favorable for us to pack a lack of E to actually win this event. He was going very well, but it all started to unravel on Saturday in one of the most bizarre things I think I've seen. Where he flicked up a rock with the front of his yaris. But The Rock went off to the right side of his car. Hit a tree, a rebounded back into his own windscreen, cracking and smashing the windscreen right in his eye line. So he couldn't see where he was going really. And lost a lot of time to that. And he himself said, he was frightened. Because he just simply was guessing where to put the car because the crack had sort of created a mirror effect so he couldn't really see what was going on. So that's where he sort of victory bid sort of unraveled and he was basically fighting for third after that. But you know, if you thought that was unlucky, there's Sunday with such a crazy turn of events where the penultimate stage he's coming to a left hand corner got caught in a rut and rolled the GI yaris three times, landed on his wheels, but the car had taken quite some battering. So it lost most of the rear wing. The radiator was punctured, and there was fluid leaking everywhere, and again, unfortunately for him, his windscreen was broken again. So it was just a sort of bizarre moment. Amazingly, he managed to re fire the car and finish the stage only losing 18 seconds. 18 seconds, rolling it down. And that's amazing. If this was the end of the story, it would be amazing, but it's not. So yeah, he lost 18 seconds. And when they told Callie Robin that this, there's an absolutely viral clip of Callie's reaction to this on social media which you need to go and look at. And Kelly is probably the most expressive of expressive I've seen him. His eyes wide open, couldn't believe that lapier had only lost 18 seconds after rolling three times, but anyway, back to the story. So lapi being the quick thinking Finn that he is, you could see there was liquid coming out of the front of the car and decided to ask the Marshals at the stage in for as many bottles of water that they had so he could sort of take them to try and refill the radiator and get it fixed. Unfortunately, not enough water. So again, the ingenuity of lapi and the rally driver came to the fore, and being in Finland, which the country of a thousand likes and the rally used to be called the thousand lakes rally, he drove to a nearby Lake, stopped him and his co driver Yanni firm got out, rushed down to the Lake edge with as many bottles of empty bottles as they could to fill up as much water as possible. Ran back to the car, then they decided to try and fix the leaks in the radiator and use the Lake water to fill up the radiator as well. Successfully managed to do that, kicked out the windscreen because they couldn't see where they were going. So that meant they had to both fit goggles so they could didn't have anything coming in to their eyes. So you've got this bizarre scene of them driving without a windscreen with goggles. They reach the stage. But even on the goggles thing quickly, that's even then that's crazy because as we've seen, rocks hit windscreens. And so the two guys are like, yes, they're wearing goggles. They don't get flies in their eyes, but you know, never mind flies. Rocks, so you have to drive differently, pull back a little bit, et cetera, et cetera, but he didn't really pull back. It's got balls of steel. Anyway, sorry, carry on. Yeah, so yeah, I get to get to the start of the final stage, and then on the first acceleration part of the roof of the car comes off, so there's just, it looks like a car that's been in a demolition Derby, and so they've got they've got no roof. They've got no windscreen. They've got the goggles on. The wind is coming through the car like you wouldn't believe. So the pace notes, book is flying everywhere, so yanny firms trying to read the pace notes, but he's obviously got a shout them now because the air coming in the car is so noisy and he was absolutely astonishing, but they managed to get through the stage and they were only ten seconds slower than Robin Perry who won the stage. And it's just, you sitting there and you're like, how are these guys doing this? But anyway, they got through to the end and picked up a podium which as Iraqi said, probably the strangest poem of his career. And to top it off when to keep the joke, I suppose, or the humor rolling, when they got to the podium both for SF ecker and Yanni for climbed onto the program, still wearing their goggles to collect their trophy. So it was just one of those moments where you just chalk up as that's just rally. That's just how it is. You know, it's just one of those bizarre moments that you just simply can't believe you're witnessing.
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"He also said he was quite sketchy in places Tom and he wasn't even fully under control, but described being in the zone. We talked about that on the podcast before where if you were driving a rally car where you are the car and the car is you and it's just all one, but he had to often you can there's a sports person do that for a period of time whether it's a hundred meter race in the Commonwealth Games have been watching or but to do it day after day is a superhuman effort. So it sounds like you're massively impressed by his weekend. Yeah, absolutely. I think everyone was hugely impressed by what tanak did and as I said earlier he was really sort of competing with lesser machinery. And I know that there was there was a bit of mind games from tannock, which was quite interesting during the weekend, you know, he was sort of saying our Toyota unbeatable here and that's fair because Toyota, this is their backyard, this is where the team is based. They are based in the host city of the rally vascular. They've won every rally Finland since their return to the championship since 2017. So they were fully expected to win this. So to be able to sort of fend them off like he did was just simply incredible. And clearly there's something going on behind the scenes. He was an inspired tanak. He was driving with a purpose that we haven't seen, perhaps this year. And let's remember that he did win in Sardinia, but this was a different kind of victory. And he was quite emotional for Tanaka at the end as well. He sort of paid tribute to his wife for being there for supporting him during some difficult times he didn't sort of allude to what those difficult times were, but he's clearly there was some there was some emotion involved in this victory. Which we haven't seen before. And as I said, the only way I could sort of describe it was he was sort of driving like a classic Colin McCrae maximum attack style that we've seen Colin McRae produce over the years where it's just full attack. There's sketchy moments at the very, very many sketchy moments, but somehow he manages to drag this through. And I think the telling points of this was on Friday where he sort of said, you know, the car is uncomfortable, but I have to be uncomfortable to be able to produce these times. And after one stage, even said that his hands were shaking, that just so how much effort and what he was doing to try and hold this car. He was physically shaking afterwards. So it was a herculean effort and one that will go down in history. And a battle of the Finns behind him over Friday and Saturday with lappy and Robin pair a bit of a ding dong between them earlier in the rally before Robin Perry pulled clear finishing order tanak first, Robin pair a second lappy third elf and Evans in fourth Thierry navy 6th if sorry a new deal and katsu was sick there wasn't he. And Gus Greene Smith in the first, the fourth. In 7th, I hadn't run down the order, which I hadn't so apologies dear listener. So Tom, what do you make of that battle of the Finns for second and third place? Yeah, so obviously calorie run per massively the favorite going into this rally with his home round. It was his homecoming, I think everyone was to deliver a victory. It would always be tough starting first on the road because we championship position, but he had a huge amount of support in Finland. If there was anyone worried that Finland not having a world champion for 20 years that the sport was sort of it's popularity was dwindling, then Cali rov and pere has reignited this because the crowds were huge over the weekend. His support was massive. If he wanted to get a glimpse of calorie often pairing the service park, you were sort of 6 or 7 deep in the crowd. The Finns really do love this rally. An interesting stat and I will get onto the answer to the actual competition in a moment, but interesting stat that appeared yesterday was to sort of give you context as to how popular rallying is in Finland the entire rally is broadcast on pay television and free to air television via online platform. They have their own special TV studio in the service park just for the finished television. Sort of a sky F one style type of studio. And the figures that were produced over the weekend were 5.5 million hours of WRC rally Finland were watched through the national television provider. Which are quite too, if we look at it from a population point of view, every thin watching at least one hour of WRC over the four days. So that's a that is what Raleigh is infinite. It is a national obsession. It blew my mind just how popular it is. It is just literally one of their most favorite things to do and watch. Okay, well let's quickly hear from Kelly Robin Perez in his own words after you spoke to him right now. You're obviously
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"tanak" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Sport magazine. I'm Martin Lee, and this is the auto sport podcast. Another round of the world rally championship at the weekend and home hero couldn't quite bring it home first, but he wasn't far behind. Hyundai's tanakh though held off the world rally championship leader Kelly Robin Pereira to claim a stunning victory at rally Finland. But the Finns weren't absent, like I say, from the top of the time sheets and there's so much to talk about today, including a thrilling weekend of rally. Filling up your leaky car from a Lake and a hot new co driving talents that's the talk of the service park. That's long-term listeners know what I'm referring to. But we'll get back to you. I think you've made a very, very poor judge for that. We'll get to Tom's exploits at the end of the podcast, but first of all, I'm joined on gravel notes by Tom Howard fresh back from Finland. You got in yesterday, but you were there for quite a while because like I say this cove co driving stuff, we'll get to, but you fresh back, what did you make of that rally Finland and the result? Yeah, yeah, what's a rally? I think we've been spoiled this year for rally just in terms of the quality of the competition and just exactly just some of the events that unfold during them. And I think, yeah, it's going to be hard to top what happened in rally Finland. I think this year, I think for many people, this will be so far what the standout rally in terms of not only the competition, but the support behind it, the amount of people that turned up to watch just the hype surrounding it all. Yeah, it was unlike any of the other rallies of visited this year. So yeah, absolutely extraordinary. And I have to say hats off to a talent. That will probably be one of, if not, the greatest drive he's had so far in his career was absolutely astonishing. You described it as an against the odds performance. And that's because the odds were in the favor of rally favorite Cali rob perra and the Toyotas, which have been barnstorming. The Japanese manufacturer having a huge winning run at rally Finland. And also just the fact that he had to be the to win this rally had to do the equivalent of qualifying laps for the whole weekend, complete maximum attack mode. Tell me about that. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, just to put this into context, just two or three weeks ago and rally Estonia, which is obviously ten X backyard and was expected to obviously perform, but this remember the hind eye isn't as good a car as the Toyota so it was always going to be a bit of a tall order for him and in Estonia. He was beaten by Callie Robin pair by almost two minutes, so and these roads are very similar to fill and not quite as extreme, but it's a similar type of rally. So to come to Finland to Toyotas backyard Cali rob Perez backyard and two with a car that let's be honest isn't as good as the Toyota and to be able to fend off these Toyotas and win fend off Callie Robin Pereira and when this rally, yes, simply astonishing, nobody saw this coming. You would have got very long odds on a result like this happening. I mean, let's be honest tanak is good, very, very, very good driver at a 29er 19 world champion and a two time rally Finland winner before this weekend. So we know he can go fast here, but what he did and if you ever get the chance to watch some of the action, he's just on the edge the entire 22 stages, which you just simply, you can't do this in these days in WRC. It's impossible to be absolutely on it for the entire rally, trying to haul a machine that isn't quite as fast as a competitor's to victory. It was, yeah, just amazing. I don't know quite how he did it. It was just an inspired performance from tannic to, as I said, produce an against the odds victory. We're going to hear from all top three on the podcast today, so let's hear from tanak talking to you as he talks about his satisfying win. Your most satisfying victory. It is that teddy is very satisfying and it's very special.
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"tanak" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Crazy. You're just sitting there watching this in all really like I don't know how they do it. But yeah, so katsu to just round wide rolled a couple of times to be fair and very lucky because he landed on his on his wheels and I'll be honest with you there was there wasn't a great deal of damage from the outside. It looked like he'd really escaped one there and yeah, it didn't worry him at all. The team repaired it and he was back underway that evening for the first stage. So yeah, but he drove, he drove really well, very smartly for our actually. After doing something like that, you could be, you know, your confidence could be quite dented, but he was, he was very clever and yeah, in fact, he was quite funny. He's a very likeable character and this was his 5th attempt at rally Estonia in the first hurry to actually reach the finish, so he was pretty happy to get there because it's not been one of his happy hunting grounds. And let's just finish off talking about M sport a challenging rally for the Ford cars. Adrian formo emerging as the only driver in the points coming home. 7th, like he's finding his feet, a little bit, again, this season, but otherwise it was a difficult difficult weekend for M sport. Just sum up. What happened there for our listeners? Yeah, of course, you know, again, another difficult one for them. They obviously came in with some very high hopes, certainly attached to Craig breen, because he's finished this event second in the previous two seasons. So this is one of the ones he really goes well at. And he was right in a mix from the start, one of the first stage was in contention early on Friday morning, but he just made an error, misjudged the braking, going into a left hander, ran wide into the grass, which seemed innocuous at the time, but little did he know that in the grass was buried quite a significant concrete post which he hit. That broke the steering and that was game over. He did return on Saturday and got through to Sunday, but that was any hopes of any points gone out the window and that less sort of the pressure on the rest of the M sport guys. Pierre Louis lube was going very well. Until the chaos of the Rhine ensued on Friday night stage where three people got caught out on the same corner but he was the worst. He sort of went over this jump here which he said was like driving on ice went straight to bank rolled on his side. Luckily the fans came to push him back onto his wheels, but he lost two minutes there and that was sort of put the end to that and then he actually retired on Sunday with a sort of clumsy arrow where he just hit a rock with the front wheel and that damages the suspension and that was retirement and for Gus greensmith. He knocked a tire off the rim, which cost him time after landing from a jump awkwardly. And yeah, again, it sort of just sort of seemed to fall away from them. Former was just he needed around like this. Oh, did he ever make that earlier this year? But he was just solid, solid throughout barely made a mistake, and this was what he needed, didn't push like he could have pushed a really threw off the road here because it was easy to do that as we saw. But yeah, very, very smart drive from it. And I think he really will benefit from that because yeah, he needed the result. So yeah, I was just saying we should probably just one sort of just as Kappa a couple of wild things that happen because of rally does tend to throw up some bizarre situations, but yeah, so Oliver Solberg had probably the save of the season. Where he was, he was brilliant at the Saturday afternoon. Very, very close to getting a stage for any former pipped in by .1 seconds, which is so hard for him because he's yet to win a stage. It would have been great for him to get one on the board. But yeah, flicked over this jump sideways and was just heading direct for a tree. It looked like it was going to be a one way ticket to shunt down. And each somehow, I don't know how he did this, but he wrestled this back. I got it on the road. We actually posted the clip on social media and if you get a chance to look at it, please do, because it really is quite fun phenomenal how he did that. I don't know how he did it, but yeah, that was impressive and co driver. Was perhaps the quickest of thinking of people on Friday night when the heating pipe of all things inside the cockpit of Titanic's car. Just disconnected and misted up his screen. So I can see where he was going. He fired off the road, but the quick thinking of Martin, the managed to prop the pipe up with his foot, his left foot, while still calling the notes, yeah, incredible incredible. I don't know, I've never seen it like that before. But the quick thinking and the now to be able to do that as well as cool the notes that a hundred K's an hour, I'll take my hat off to him. Which is a wonderful segue into rally Finland, where we head next where you head next, because that could be you, propping something up with your foot while calling the note. As we get ever close, you're getting nervous yet about your debut in the car. Absolutely. And certainly when takamoto rolled on the shakedown, I was a little bit concerned, shall we say? Yes. You know, of course it would be fine, but yeah. Yeah, and I don't think I'll be doing any of those antics, I think I'll be barely able to call the notes, let alone. They'll be able to think about propping up a pipe with my foot, yeah, no, it's going to be a bit interesting. We'll see how it goes. So I've got to have to do a fair bit of practice over the next few days. What are you doing to practice?
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"Got a they've moved to a test based in Finland on gravel this year, which is new. So they've got access to the facilities to develop this car, because in the past they've only had a tarmac facility at their base in Germany. So they are obviously trying to make steps, but it's a difficult one. And I guess words were interested in there because that's the first time publicly anything has been said about this. And he shot it down pretty hard. And for someone who would be hugely frustrated with the scenario that's going on, it would be easy for him to say yeah. I'm moving on. I'm going somewhere else. So this is all coming down. So I think that was encouraging a statement from oit there and that's just hope that they can turn us around because we do need Hyundai back up there. Absolutely. We did see a small ten second time penalty for him over the weekend. What was that for? Yeah, so that's, again, it's just classic classic kind I season really, isn't it? The first time that they had no reliability issues, they get penalized for not running in electric mode in an electric only zone, which is just such a silly when you think about it is such a silly thing to get penalized for because it's just, you know, you know you've got to do it. It's in the road book. Just put it in electric mode. People make mistakes, don't they? No one's perfect. But was perhaps interesting with this one is that earlier this year, those situations have been going on, but for the most part, they've been given drivers have been given reprimands rather than time penalties. So I asked why this was a time penalty. And it was put to me that this was because it was genuinely the fault of the driver and co driver in this situation. Whereas in previous times, like, they'd forgotten when they were driving off start ramps and stuff like that, which was sort of seen as a sort of like, well, you know, we'll turn a blind eye to it. But when you're in a rally, this was actually on the Thursday night, then it was sort of seen as, well, you should know better. You didn't have a problem with the system. You should have just put it in electric mode. So I can kind of understand it. But yeah, so that was how that happened. And in the second Hyundai, Thierry naville, and we watched some of the onboards like you say, just not attacking the road in the way that Cali is attacking it. Is there a confidence there or not? What do you think? Yeah, he's just not able to. It's not because he's not trying. He just doesn't have the ability to have the confidence that the car will stick and you have to remember that these guys are doing quite frankly mad things in the cars. You are relying, you know, your life is in the hands of the co driver and that your car will stick in these coordinates. And yeah, that is one of the fundamental problems with the high end is that in the real fast stuff and this is the first time we got to see it because this is really the first fast gravel rally that we've seen. It's got it has got very little grip and stability in the rear. So the car will just step out and all three drivers were fighting this the entire weekend. So yeah, as a result, Honda are now going to look at this because they've admitted that there is a fundamental problem with this car. So they have plenty of what they call jokers, which is what basically what you can do is you can play like a sort of development token, I suppose, is how you describe it like they used to have in Formula One. Each team gets a certain amount of these that they can play during the year where they can change something that is homologated on the car. So this is what they'll do now. They'll go in, have a look. But again, this is not something that could be changed overnight. This will take some time to work out. So they've got plenty of these jokers and development tokens up their sleeve because I haven't actually used any on the chassis yet. So they've got plenty to use, but again, it's just time and working out how they fix this. So yeah, so the reason for Thierry's lack of pace is that you simply just didn't have the confidence. He's also isn't a fan of this rally. He's not really known for his fast gravel rally pace. He's very much on the you get the best out of Thierry on tarmac and in those more trickier gravel events. So it wasn't going to be his favorite to begin with, but yes, certainly the car sort of compounded his woes. Two more questions for you. We'll talk about the next two Toyota's of kitsu and lappy, they came home 5th and 6th respectively and then we'll finish off talking about M sport just to finish off the podcast today. A good result for kasuto in 5th, but started the weekend when shakedown at least looked like he ran a little wide and some soft gravel, managed to roll it in the bushes. What happened there? Yeah, of course, when you think about, as I said, thinking about that now, it feels like a lifetime ago that morning after a busy weekend. When was that? Was that this rally? Yeah, yeah, it was. Yeah. Basically, yeah, just got caught out on the wet there like shakedown was held underwear and you have to remember that the weather was particularly tough for these guys on the weekend because it was just this classic case of it would just be sudden cloudburst and that it would be bright sunshine and it would just keep doing this for out the rally. So it made I couldn't imagine how tough that would have been for the drivers and co drivers because like how do you but you just don't know what sort of weather you're going to get what sort of grip you're going to have like you just going into things blind most of the time. It's just crazy. You're just sitting there watching this in all really like I don't know how they do it. But yeah, so katsu to just round wide rolled a couple of times to be
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"tanak" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Sort of tale of two halves in a way, happy to be at least on the podium again, but disappointed to not be a bit more competitive. It was tricky out there in certain sections of the weekend. He's got a scary points advantage now in terms of the championship title. What is your thought? Yeah, it's a pretty, it was already a pretty long reach. And it just got longer, you know? Of course, like I mentioned already, it doesn't change the approach we're still there to go to everybody and do the best for ourselves. And of course, the team as well. So it doesn't, it doesn't change so much. So there we go. You know, he found some positives in coming home second. He's closed the gap he's third in the championship now behind neuville, elfin Evans on 79 points to 92 and Robin pair a 175 points in the championship. But from your experience because you've been going, you know, you've been traveling around the world this year and you're there in the service parks and you're talking to everyone. What is this domination doing to his competitors? Are they getting their heads down almost or is there still some optimism there? What's your opinion on how he's beating down his opposition? I think when elfin is offering him praise for the way he's driving sort of says it all really because you just have to I think as a competitor you just have to take your hat off when you see quality like that. There's no there's no other way to deal with it I think you have to just sort of put this in that sort of mental mindset of we are seeing something quite extraordinary here. So I think but you're right, this could completely destroy anyone's confidence. But yeah, I think everyone sort of just kind of, I guess like I think elfin said there like it's just made a long shot even longer for him in the title race, which is just I guess the only way you could look at it. I mean, they're in operation. I think the other thing to bear in mind is that the Toyota is the best car at the moment. So if we're sort of looking towards his other rivals from outside of Toyota, the tan accident novels of this world are high and they know that they're in a way fighting with one hand beyond their backs because their car is not on the same level as the Toyota they've got their own battles going on as we've documented numerous times. Development call on the car there's been no development on it really the behind the 8 ball. So the high end died to win a rally, that is a really extraordinary achievement at the moment because of where that car is. So what tanak did in Sardinia should be remembered as quite an extraordinary achievement really to win that round. But yeah, I guess would have sport as well. Their car is strong, but they're lacking experience in their driver lineup. So when obviously when Loeb is not there, they're relying heavily on Craig and when Craig breen is sort of struggling a little bit, he's got pace, but he's only been able to deliver a couple of podiums so far and the other drivers are relatively young. So yeah, I can see how they would be looking at that and thinking not quite sure how you beat carry at the moment. Having a look at, as we head further down, we'll hear from it now, like I say, previous winning, the most successful. Driver of rally Estonia in the past and hear what he had to say afterwards and let's actually, let's say we're a clip of him talking about his future because it was put to him about some of the things that are going around the service park, particularly amongst some members of the media, but hearing things about a certain commitment to the sport from his team, Hyundai, this is what he had to say about that. There is a great support from Korea and for sure everybody wanted a lot, but it just needs some very, let's say, straightforward changes in general structure, but we are working on it and these are definitely looks a bit difficult, but in the long term it's important for the sport as well that we come back. So yeah, pretty comprehensive denial there and what have you heard and what's your take? Because we think that Hyundai are here for the long term. What's your reading of them being in the sport? You can fully understand why speculation like this is carrying around and often there's no smoke without fire and with these things. So yeah, there's no doubt about it. If you're a big car manufacturer and you're not going so well in a sport and there's a sort of global cost crisis going on and it's difficult to sell cars and build new cars at the moment. You can understand why any manufacturer might consider walking away from a motor sport activity because at the end of the day, this is a sort of luxury item. Yes, it is a marketing tool, but it is a sort of luxury item. So just to put that into context, you can understand why such rumors would go around and certainly after Monte Carlo after that sort of horror show that they had there. You could there were sort of some rumors even kicking around after that. When you look at the situation that they've been dealt, you know, obviously a team, they're a long time team to principal Andrea damo lift in the winter, so it's certainly some upheaval in the camp and we've obviously reported that there's been some complications internally with the team structure with the sort of lack of leadership at the moment and parts supply crisis. So, you know, they've had to deal with a lot and to be fair, it's been a tough ask for them. You have some sympathy for them because they've been dealt a pretty raw hand here. So the interesting thing for me, I think, is that just a couple of weeks ago, they announced the three year extension, the WRC Hyundai team and actually the three year extension we shell their top sponsors. So if you were going to pull out of a sport, why would you do that? I'm not totally sure. I mean, obviously these things can be undone, but that seems like a sort of bizarre move if you weren't committed to the sport. So obviously we don't want them to see them go, because it'd be huge. Detrimental to WRC. We need higher and are there. But we also need them there as a competitive force. So look, let's not forget, they won two manufacturers titles on the bounce. They know how to build a car and deliver a strong weapon for tanak and tiring of it. So it's just been a circumstances, I think, that's left them in the situation. They can turn this around, but this is not going to be a job that you can turn around overnight. It's going to take on the rally. There are fundamental problems with the development of this car. And that can only have happened because of the rushed process that they had to do to get it ready for Monte Carlo. So they're trying their best to get this right.
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"tanak" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"He knew that and he could have just backed off because it was pretty slippery, but because he knew he was going to get worse. He decided to push. And that is where he got the 22.6 second swing. Over elfen, to give him the platform to win this rally. So it's just the smartness of being able to think like that. While those conditions are going on at the age of 21, which is just leaving everyone staggered because of this rate, like if he carries on like this, he could be a 9 time world champion by Tommy's 30. And you just, when you say that out loud, it just seems absolutely bonkers, doesn't it? Yeah, well, this is a thing like Sebastian oge when he's first title aged 29. The Cali is probably going to do this at 21. So we are living in a very, very special moment here in WRC. You're seeing something. Quite remarkable. And I don't think it will be repeated again. When you watch those live shots as well over the weekend and they cut away to the teams, you see the team bosses, and everyone's sitting around, you know, watching it. Even these probably hardcore rally mechanics and people that have been around the sport for a long time. You can even tell on their faces, right? They're just watching it. A little bit open mouthed and a little bit just like that is huge respect for what he's doing. Okay, so it's his team, they cut away, and obviously they're going to be overjoyed. But he was the youngest WRC winner this time last year. It actually was this time last year. It was the 18th of July last year. The event was exactly the same time last year. He was 20 years old and 289 days to be the youngest winner of a world rally championship event had then gone to win acropolis after that, and then this year is dominant. Now, that phrase champion elect is sometimes used to describe someone who's got it in the bag and they just sort of counting down until it's definitely going to happen. But you have to say is the season goes on. We can increasingly call him. Champion elect or is it, you know, is it too soon? Because in racing it's not too soon. People have a big shunt. They break a leg or whatever, so things can change, but oh, of course, of course. If that doesn't happen. Things can change, but you have to say he's got one hand on the title now, and it's July. That's the phenomenon phenomenal thing about this. He's got one hand on the title in July. He's got an 83 point lead. He could, he could, I think yary Matty even said in the press conference, he can throw it off the road three times and still have the lead. Which is a luxury, a super luxury to have. But he's not going to want to do that. And that's the beauty of calorie run Perry is that he just doesn't want to stop like ETC so ruthless. He's just, he doesn't need to win these stages. He doesn't need to win 14 stages doesn't need to get the power stage points, but you just you just want to. He just wants to go out there and just show what he can do. Of course, there's going to be there is going to come over and obviously we don't touch where we don't want it to be a drama, but surely at some point there's going to be a job. Like this can not carry on for a whole season. Surely there will be at some point where he comes, he comes undone because you have to remember, he isn't actually retired from a rally since last year, which was Finland actually last year. So he's gone on a run. He's had a 12 month period where he's won 7 rallies from 13. And I believe he's worst finish is 9th in that period, and he's only been off the podium full time. So it's a remarkable record, whichever way you look at it. And it just goes to show that it is a very definition of that classic case of our once I've got that first win in the monkey off their back. The floodgates were open. Well, this is the very definition of that. You are seeing that. Now and yeah, it's just, as I said, people just don't know what to say anymore about him. It's very hard to sort of do him justice. Let's talk a little bit about the effect that it's having on his competitors as well, who are all strong, mentally strong, competitors, elf and Evans, were second in the second Toyota. Let's have a listen to him now talking afterwards, you know, obviously not happy about coming home second because all racers want to finish first and that's what he begins by talking about here. I'd like you to be ever fully happy, you know, when you finish second sort of tale of two halves in a way, happy to be at least on the podium again, but disappointed to not be a bit more competitive. It was tricky out there in certain sections of the
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"tanak" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Rally is our man Tom Howard. Wow, that was once again a weekend that absolutely delivered for some amazing racing. Yeah, an incredible rally. Again, it's just fun in the words to describe calorie rover Perry is now actually hard. I'm running out of adjectives. I'm running out of superlatives. It's just, it's just unbelievable. Like people are just genuinely stunned at what he's able to do and it's the key to this is the wet weather. This is where he's making the most impact. When it gets difficult and extreme, he's on a different or as Yara Matty Latvia the toe to boss said he's on another planet and he's absolutely correct because there is no one could touch him. Nobody can absolutely touch it. If you need anything to sort of justify or the skill that calorie romper is I would produce. Just go and watch the highlights from the power stage because that for me is probably that will be one of the drives of the season because I didn't need to push. Had a massive lead already, but there's 5 bonus points up for grabs. It was absolutely ridiculously wet to the point where SFI galapa actually described it as the craziest stage he's ever driven. That's how bad the conditions were. And he had the very similar conditions thereof in evidence and say, oh, you know, they were together in the road order. So elfin went slightly before him. So they started conditions weren't that different. But Kelly won the stage by 22.5 seconds over Evans, which is just unheard of. And it's just, I just don't know what to say anymore. He's just defying belief of what he's able to do in that car at the minute. And so that the car is reliable, but so, as the consistency of the driver as well, nothing seems. And he has had big offs. And coming through the series as well in WRC two, he had a big offer a few years ago where he landed on top of a spectator's car. And so it's not like he is impervious to making him mistake. But this season, his consistency just seems to keep delivering and delivering. Yeah, he's just, I think we spoke about it before. I think this was maybe Portugal where we just said he's just in this sort of flow zone where everything he is doing is just coming up gold. You know, it's just I think the best things to look at and you have to remember that each driver is a different driving styles, but if you compare the onboards of him with elfin Evans, it looks like Kelly's on a Sunday drive, like he's just so calm, so collected and yet performing miracles and doing things that you just can't believe he's doing, whereas elfin is just on the ragged edge, trying to get as much out of this car to try and keep up with Cali. Yeah, as I said, no one really can explain it. He's just he's on a different level. He's just at this point where he's so confident in the car. He's able to push where people just simply can't. And people can't say, well, it's just the machinery is better because he's beating his teammate because it was a one two photo again this weekend and with elf and Evans coming home in second tanak home hero tanak in the first of the Hyundai's in third, followed home by the closest championship rival, what does he know? I made a note of it over the weekend, 80 odd points, 83 points. Three points. Neuville is 83 points behind rather than in the fight for the championship. But like four minutes back in the second Hyundai. So it's not as if you can say, well, he's in superior machinery. And the Toyota is superior machinery in many conditions. He's just so good. And you know, it seems like now let's flip things around a little bit because on the last podcast, the second half we heard from the drivers and team managers, let's flip it round and hear from him right now because he's got that, if I can sort of use a bit of a cultural stereotype, that finish that finish thing going on, where he is brutally fast on the road. And yet when the Finns talk about their racing afterwards, it just sounds like they're so like they reclined, they're laid back. And he is so laid back when you hear him talk. Let's have a little listen here to Callie Robin pere talking after another win. Big 5 from the beginning with the guys opening the road and he had an elephant was all the time they are giving pressure also. So it was a nice vegan. Brokerage driving and United States is yeah, I think I haven't seen rains like this anywhere else before. It seemed that every time we had a break or road checks and there was some sunshine and stuff and then when we were on the start line it's always raining or something and yeah, quite extreme conditions a few times. An impressive final stage from you today. I saw that there was some rain before heavy rain for the guys then a bit less and less all the time for the last cars to come through. So yeah, I knew that there might be a chance for us to have a good position to start at the stage and India then I just push for it and the time was good. Okay, that's some of the press conference audio that they very kindly supplied to the auto sport podcast for us to use on the podcast today some Tom. So what do you make of some of the things that he talked about there after his win? You're right, he's typically understated. He must realize that what he's doing is phenomenal, but he's just so calm with it all. It's interesting in a way. It's kind of from a journal perspective. It's kind of, I suppose, a little bit annoying that he doesn't get more excited about what he's doing. But you have to buy it. You have to buy the fact that he's just so cool, calm collected. But I guess the point we need to make here is that the area where he is having a vantage is in these wet and slippery conditions. So three times elfin and Cali have gone up against each other for a rally win and the three times The Rain has come down in Portugal, Kenya, and now here he's just had something else that he can offer an elfin has no answer in reply. But he don't. But Evan started the weekend really well. He dominated early part of Friday. They absolutely. So just to recap that obviously elfin started Friday, he won 5 stages on the bounce and a lead of 19.9 seconds over Cali. Now, some of that was down to that was dry to begin with that the rally. So there was a bit of cleaning for Cali to do being first on the road, and you have to remember elfin was, I believe, 6th on the road. So he had a much better conditions. But yes, you're right. I often was in the zone and was looking very much like the elf and that we saw in Finland last year when he absolutely monster that event and won it. So there was genuine hope here that elf is elephant is going to do this. There's a very strong chance, but again, The Rain came down on that last stage on Friday and this is where Callie is so ruthless and clever is that he was because he was first on the road. It just worked slightly better in his favor in terms of the conditions were bad, but they got worse for the rest of the field. And he knew that and he could have just backed off because it was pretty slippery, but because he knew he was going to get worse. He decided to push. And that is where he got the 22.6
The Autosport Podcast
"tanak" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"It's been challenging. Especially beginning of this generation. So definitely very happy for all the mechanics actually. They would incredible effort to know or land up the last day and beginning of this year and also now this really it was never easy so they make good job going. So no, they don't step in at the challenge. Anything specific home may have done to nail these gremlins. Interestingly, he was very lucky to win this rally because he did actually have a reliability concern of his own and it did threaten his chances, but he was offered a rare, rare piece of good fortune. So I don't know whether he's been praying or doing something to try and turn his luck, but he actually got a bit of a piece of good fortune on the Friday because he had a transmission issue, which meant he was down to three wheel drive, and was losing time, actually lost the lead. But then the organizers canceled the final two stages of the day. Where he would have lost way more time and actually headed into Saturday only .7 behind Toyota's especial appy. So he was offered a massive stroke of luck because it meant that hind I could fix the problem without him losing more time. For the rest of the rally. So he really does have that to thank. But again, the reliability issues were still there as Tierra Neville, who just can not buy a piece of luck at the moment. Everything seems to be going wrong for him. He also had a transmission issue was down to two wheel drive, lost two minutes, and that was his sort of rally over before he rolled the thing on Saturday, which is not ideal, but yeah, a real stroke of luck, unusual bit of good luck for white tanak and he made the most of it to win to win 9 stages out over all out the 21. He was dominant. Absolutely dominant. To win the rally by more than a minute from M sports Craig brain. So a really good performance, despite some issues. And issues for his competitors as well, it must be said. It was a rally of attrition for some, but spectacular as well, like the photos that I was looking that we were posting over the weekend. Whether it's the water splashes or whether it is just that gravel and the dust which was hanging in the air, which we can talk about now if you want about how the drivers are feeling about that dust. It is a spectacular, but really hard rally on the cars. And on the drivers in those temperatures, can we just address the temperatures and that kind of dust in the air as well? Absolutely. This probably will be perhaps the toughest rally they will actually do. And that's saying quite a lot. Something isn't it, because you're going to Africa in three weeks. So far, they're doing so. So this is quite a situation. So just to sort of explain why it was so tough is, firstly, these are incredibly long days. Thierry was saying that he gets four hours sleep. That's it. A night because there are very early 4 a.m. in the morning and they don't finish till 8 o'clock at night. It's a real brutal brutal day and when you're doing that in 40° temperatures and then to add into the fact that the cabin temperatures and cars are a lot higher because of the exhaust positioning of the rally one hybrid cars. So you're talking like 60, 70° inside the car. It's incredibly hard. And then, for example, on Saturday, they only had a 15 minute break to get a bit of food and water before they go again. And you just think, how do these guys do it? But yes, incredibly tough. The team's and the FI recognized the conditions and the situations in the car. So there was frantic changes to the cars to try and get the temperatures outside of the cockpit on lower them. So for example, high and I fitted a reflective golden roof to try and reflect the sunlight to reduce some of the heat in the car. There was some extra vents drilled into windows and some ceramic heat shielding put around the firewall in the exhaust to try and take some of the heat away. Toyota even redesigned their roof vent brought a whole new roof in, which is had to come in some luggage from the team members in Finland. They have to carry it in their suitcases to get it to the rally. That was how tight it was, and they were fitting that on the Wednesday, so it was, yeah, a lot of going on, and you had to feel for the drivers because it was incredibly hot. Interestingly, as a lappy, actually sort of tried to train himself for the conditions by sitting in his race suit in a sauna in Finland to try and create the conditions he would be facing. But you just can't really sort of imagine how tough it could be. I mean, calorie robbery even said that the car was basically a sauna, like all he needed was the water, the fro on the floor, and it would have been a sauna. That was how tough it was. So I take my hat off to the drivers and particularly the co drivers who have to really suffer in those heat in extraordinarily hot conditions in the car. So to reach the finish, you would have been proud of yourself because that is some effort to get there and let alone to win. As you've been recently hanging out with the mechanics for a special feature, I'm surprised you're not also throwing a bit of love their way. Yes, of course. I should point that out actually gets a very, very good point because Cali actually said that at the moment, the mechanics are getting perhaps two hours sleep a night, which is not good enough, really. In this situation, just how these are how brutally long the days are. So my hats off to those guys, they are absolutely heroes for doing what they do to keep the drivers going. But yeah, it's a really, this is when you need your team around you. This is when you need everyone. Helping you out because this is not just a sport. It's a genuine survival. At times, it's that tough. So yeah, these guys are superhuman. Wow, let's talk a little bit about how the progress of the weekend went because it was not, it was not nailed on, actually. He had to kind of dial in his performance as the rally went on. Just talk us through how the lead changed hands and how he consolidated that win. Yeah, so actually we started on Thursday with a super special, which was quite a fun little stage around the city of olbia. And that was one by Tyrion Neville, who had it into Friday with a lead, but then we had the first proper gravel stage, and this was sort of, I believe, 7 a.m. in the morning. So very early for the guys, but the issue here was such was the tight schedule that the guys were facing. The organizers had gone to three minute intervals between the cars, which was clearly not enough because the dust hanging the air was causing all sorts of visibility issues for those behind. It was actually the only point that rally where Kelly Robin pair had an advantage really because he was first on the road. And didn't have to face any dust, but it will honestly from the vision and the onboards incredible how they all got through that without crashing, because you just couldn't see beyond the bonnet, really. It was that tough. So rightly so the drivers were not happy about that. A lot of choice words, but the right words too were directed at the organizers and on Saturday. A resolution was found and four minute gaps were introduced to the first two morning stages so that that issue didn't come back up again. So that was good..
The Autosport Podcast
"tanak" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Let's review an explosive rally Croatia. It's the gravel notes podcast with Tom Howard, my name is Martin Lee, asking Tom the questions today and holy moly Robin pero wins in Croatia a year after crashing out on stage one. But that's not a simple, rally nobody could have predicted how that one went. What are your impressions? If you're a rally phone right now, you're being spoilt for choice with the drama and excitement that is happening in the championship and has been for the last 6 months or so. Yeah, both to put it mildly to events from three this year have gone to a final stage showdown and on Sunday we had a hell of a final stage showdown between and Callie Robin perea. The rally itself looked as though rob and Perry had this sewn up he'd led by more than a minute million a minute and a half on Saturday morning had a 31 second lead on Sunday morning having lost almost a minute to a puncture on Saturday, but on Sunday it all got turned on its head. Thanks to some sudden down bore shower that on the penultimate stage and Paul Kelly had the wrong ties for that. I lost his lead to oit tanak and then we had a final stage showdown. Let's review a tweet you sent on Sunday morning when Robin perra looked like it had it all under control, which said soft tyre gamble hasn't paid off for Tanaka on stage 17 Robin perra on Pirelli's extends his lead to 31.1 seconds with just three stages to go. The flying Finn will take the win unless there is a twist in the tail and you had no idea when you tweeted that, but holy moly would there be a twist in the tail. In fact, I think we did a, I think we did a Twitter poll. Sunday morning, who will win rally Croatia and this will be one that's our rally fans might have got a little bit wrong. So there we go. I'll just mention that. Tanak took 57% and Robin Perry took 43% of the fan vote of who would win. So there you go. We get it wrong, but the fans get it wrong as well. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, no one really could have predicted what would happen in just those final three stages. So yeah, as we said by stage 17 of 20, rather than Perez got a 31 second lead over tanak and you thinking, yep, home and dry. This is simple. But then on stage 18, tanakh gets a clause a little bit of that time back, so it's like 28 seconds the lead for Rothenberg going into the stage and then the heavens opened. Toyota didn't actually have the information that it was going to ride. They believed that it was just going to be cloudy and the Rhine wouldn't come down. Whereas Hyundai, tan X team, their weather band got its spot on. He absolutely knew it was going to rain, so they took the soft tyres rather than the hard tyres that rob perri took and the softs are much better in the wet. Talent had a huge advantage going into this absolute sopping wet stage. Where he got, he took, well, he reclaimed all of that deficit to Robin Perry and had a 1.4 second lead going into the final stage where Paul calley just looked crestfallen because he'd done everything like he dominated the rally and then just saw it all just evaporate on one stage and left him with one stage to fight back. It was just, you had to feel for him, but ultimately a wrong title was his doubtful there. But the team obviously didn't have the info. So we had this absolute grandstand finish set up where we had a final power stage, obviously live on television, so a big crowd there that in fact reports of Frederick 50,000 fans across the weekend for rally cry, so they really seemed to pack the stages. They loved it. And they got a great finish. So heading into that final stage, the bizarrely the rides were absolutely bone dry in the sun had come out after that rain on the previous stage, but there was a lot of mud on the roads which meant that Cali's tyres were not the rubber you needed for that stage and it had the advantage. So to do what Cali did, which was as he said, a full scent, which is written on his crash helmet. And he absolutely launched into this stage. I've never seen any quite like this. It was just full maximum attack full like Colin McRae style and it was just ragged, but he managed to pull the gap and win the rally by 4.3 seconds, which was just left everyone stunned. Nobody thought he could do this. And I think that this is the moment where we've realized we've got a real superstar in our hands in WRC at the moment. So after a podium ceremony and was wearing a golden tie, which you hear Tom reference in this Tom caught up with Callie afterwards, just very quickly for some initial reaction here's what he said. Congratulations.
The Bible Project
"tanak" Discussed on The Bible Project
"If you're writing a history document yeah, yeah. You aren't allowed to change a detail to try to make it. That's right. Do a literary maneuver for you. That's right. That would be, then you're not doing history anymore. Yeah, not our modern genre of history. Yeah. And so let's just say it out loud. The biblical authors did not hold that view. And it's demonstrably the case. But they were still viewing their text as truthful. Yes. Communication. Yes, that's right. But it worked in a different way. Yeah, the tanak has the chronicle scrolls in it that retell the story from genesis to the exile. And you can sit down and compare the counterpart narratives in genesis through kings that were likely the actual source material that the chronicler used, and you can watch the chronicler change details. He adapts them. They're interpretive purposes. That's right. To make theological points. To help the readers understand the meaning and significance. Of what happened. Yeah, I think here that distinction between text and event is really helpful. Yeah. Because a lot of times we believe that God really did act in history at various times, he acted in some events of history. But what we have in the Bible is not the actual event. It's the text that is in a sense. A God's eye interpretation of that event or God's eye view of that event. And so it's that inspired interpretation. That we are meant to pay attention to rather than trying to understand exactly what happened in history, which is not to say that so if it doesn't matter whether it happened or not. Right. I think those are not our only choices. Well, but that's the visceral reaction that some people have, which is. All right, you just put me on a slip and slide that goes all the way down to how do I know whether this any of this ever happened? One way that somebody might experience it, somebody might also experience it as, oh, reality is a little more complex. When I first imagined it. So if the two opposite ends of the spectrum are that it's pure fiction and all fabricated for literary creativity. And the other end of the spectrum are this is a verbatim transcript. It's an ancient equivalent of security camera footage. Those are the two ends of the spectrum. Yeah. And those are the two main logical alternatives. People's minds. And so, you know, the fact that an author editor of let's say it's even Moses might have adjusted somebody's age to fit a literary pattern, does not, in any way, mean this guy never existed. It just means his age got adjusted to illiterate. But if his age could get adjusted his existence have been fabricated as well. Yeah, and then I think the question becomes more one of genre. Yeah, but is that even logically compelling? In other words, is it reasonable to say somebody's age was adjusted? Therefore, it's likely that this person never existed. That just doesn't follow at all. You know? Well, what if their name is a word play, you know? That doesn't mean they didn't exist. Okay. Yeah. The book of Ruth starts with the death of two sons named sicko and done for. Yeah. You know? Mock loan and killia. It doesn't mean that this family didn't exist. What it means is that the narrative that's passing on the meaning and significance of that family story uses.
The Bible Project
"tanak" Discussed on The Bible Project
"Too, that said, no, but the Jewish community is always held this particular section, the tanakh, to be a unique divine human word, it's different from all the others. And Jesus, and most of the apostles seem on that train because they use unique vocabulary when they quote from the tanak that's different from when they will borrow language from some of these other writings. So I'm compelled that there was an entity called the tanakh that's the 24 scrolls, but that doesn't mean that every Jewish community recognized that as a firm boundary line. And that even some of the early messianic communities, this has been an issue of issue of debate. And so in the medieval or early medieval codexes, codices of the Greek translation of the Bible that were produced by Christians, these all have both the Greek translation of the tanakh and other second temple writings in them. And the New Testament writings. And so, when the English Bible started to be produced, the earliest Geneva Bible, the earliest King James bibles had this wider, second temple, literature in it. And it was the Catholic Protestant debates that led to the production of bibles that put these books separate as an appendix. It was happening in the first decades after the printing press. And then, as the centuries went on, they were just removed altogether from Protestant bibles. So it's important to say when protestants removed them, and one sense that's true. But in another sense, they were just recognizing something that some Christians had always thought, namely that it's not a very unique revelation of God's word to his people that's different from these other books. And so I just talked for a long time. But maybe the biggest takeaway from this is it's complicated. Yeah. And it's not, it's not simple. And this used to bother me for a long time. I mean, it really bothered me for. So it's complicated to try to put your finger on exactly what should be considered scripture or not. Is that what you're saying? Well, it's complicated because going back to the origins of the Jesus movement there have been different sis of opinion. But the differences don't mean that there's no such thing called the tanakh. It's about these other texts that were revered alongside the tanakh, in some early Jesus communities. And that has been the case from the beginning. These are the books like Judith wisdom, maccabees. They were revered by the Jewish community and later communities. And to go back to Heather's question, they are useful and super helpful for even if even for protestants, they're helpful for context for theology for early interpretation of scripture for all of those things. So even if protestants say this isn't part of what we'd consider scripture or authentic scripture, they're still very useful. I think that's important. But it is a genuine difference in the Christian tradition. And the trick is there's no one form of these extra writings. There's a traditional Catholic Bible. There's called the deutero cannon. But in most forms of the orthodox tradition, there's a couple more. Including jubilees. And in one in the Ethiopian orthodox church, there's a couple more Enoch and jubilees. And in each of those expanding traditions, it's saying in these books, we hear a word from God by which we evaluate and measure claims about the will and purpose of God in the world. So that's what the word canon means. It's a Greek word that means a measuring line or an evaluating line. And so the confession has been, that the cannon description, guides God's people to measure what we can say reflects the will and purpose of God. And so the trick is what collection is the measure. And there's not a lot in these books that is really out of the ballpark completely, you know, in the deutero canon or extra books that's like, wow, that's coming out of left field. Most of it is just developing what's in the talk in the first place in terms of ideas. But there are some parts that became matters of debate between Catholics and protestants. And that's what led to this divide. I think when we're asking the question, are they scripture? Some things that are helpful to consider are the shape of the tanakh. So the seams of the tanakh that are seem really intentional, like the beginning of the profits, Joshua won the beginning of the writings, the end of the Torah, the prophets and the writings, all pointing to this leader to come. And then when you hear the New Testament authors reflect on the Hebrew Bible they do refer to a three part collection, not a four part collection. So if to consider that, I'd be curious to know how people who include the deutero canon as part of the Bible, how they see that fitting within the literary story. As far as its macro design, you know? Does it have those same kinds of features and seams or the different qualitatively? Yeah, a good example of that is like Judas or tobit. They're so awesome. It reads like it's written by people who know the tanakh so well. And they're just working the design patterns. Judith is all about the main character Judith, which it's the Hebrew word for Jewish woman. And she's the snake crusher. She's the woman who is the seat of the woman depicted as a portrait of the coming snake crusher. And the snake crusher, the snake is an amalgamation of Assyria, Babylon and Persia. Like the three big bad empires in the Bible. So you're like, oh man, that's just working the same themes. But you read Mac at these? And maccabees reads like a propaganda document for the maccabean regime that came in revolt in the one 60s. And it's you're like, wow, this is this is a different pool. I'm swimming in right now. So there is there are differences, even within the dido canon of what the tech agendas are and what they're about. And it's all illuminating to help us understand the wider cultural context into which Jesus was born and into which the apostles are writing and doing their thing. But it's a genuine difference. And as much as I've worked on these questions, I reach this point where I don't know what else to do, except to say, yeah, this is the genuine difference between the Catholic Protestant orthodox traditions. But there's so much to be unified about in terms of the main content of all this literature and the main themes and leading to the messiah that yeah, there you go. For me, the unity of all across the traditions is what's much more striking than the differences. But I know other people feel differently. Okay, let's take another question. This is from Willie. Hi, team and John, my name is Willie Boston. I am originally from Peru, but currently recite in Florida. As you are talking about the formation of the Old Testament, I wanted to get your thoughts on the Jeep critical theory of Torah composition to me, the arbitrary picking of the names of God to ascertain the origins of a document is too far fetched. But do you think there is any validity to that theory? Given that we understand the Bible was made from many sources, if so, how do we up all the inspiration of the viral and Moses rolling the composition of the Torah as this theory has been used by many to diminish the divine authority of the Bible? Thanks for everything you do. This guy's taking a taxi canon class. Yeah. Yeah, so this is a question about the sources behind the pentatonic or the Torah and what that means for the authority of it as a text, and whether it's necessary to affirm that Moses was the author of the Torah for it to have authority. Or the author of all the material in the form that we have it today. Right. Yeah. And then he refers to one particular theory, one particular theory called really influenced. Maybe let's take it back to Willie just anchoring it in some earlier parts of the pillars of the paradigm in our conversation. So to say that a biblical author used many sources to make a biblical book, there shouldn't be anything controversial about that. That's how scrolls were produced in the ancient world. Yeah, as long as we see the writing process as this act of revelation from God in that time as opposed to just the event or one inspired author. It's the actual writing of the text. So an author, a later author who adds to it an editor who shapes it, all of those processes are part of shaping God's word through his spirit. Yeah..
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