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Reconquest Episode 218: Restoring the Cosmic Icon with Wolfgang Smith. Guest: Rick DeLano

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07:44 min | 1 year ago

Reconquest Episode 218: Restoring the Cosmic Icon with Wolfgang Smith. Guest: Rick DeLano

"Being this really fascinating journey can you? Can you take the journey in kind of give us just a quick summary sort of the executive summary of his intellectual journey which takes him through sort of Hindu Mr through the maths and Sciences through Hindu mysticism and then back to his Catholicism part of the film? I'm very proud of this because you can't really understand Wolfgang unless you understand this incredible journey to which you alert when he applied to cornell he was asked and this is a memorable moment in the film they said. Why do you want to study physics? And he said I wanted to study physics because I am convinced that that is the she into understanding the world and then he has this wonderful little pause with this sort of ironic little Wolfgang Unions Smile. And he says it is to say I changed my mind. The interim so at the the reason that he changed his mind in the interim is that he that he encountered the Super Metro he encountered this initially through an encounter with the Hindu poet. Rabindranath Tagore at recounts his first exposure to this incredible edible powered his brilliant by one of the great pleasures. I had from researching this project was to read to Gore. He's brilliant and he entered a world that transcended the domain of mathematical physics. All of a sudden with something he never been in touch with before and then he was raised nominally athlete but there was no. This was Austria at the end of the empire. This was not exactly a mystical Catholicism. Let me put it that way. And he was so taken by this experience of something beyond the mathematical and the physical that he became a true seeker after after wisdom went to India and actually intended to attach himself to. Asab you and make the profession. Try and climb the ladder of Acetic Religion in India. And there's A. There's a story to be told there long story short. He did not do so and he did not do so because there was always one question. he was never able to get a addressed to his satisfaction. Even though he went to I mean this guy went deep into the Himalayas. He went to the Latte asked. Living Out of tradition upon thousands of years and his question was always this. He said if I could if I complete this course if I complete this ascetic Rise ones when I get there is anything left of of the men is there and he said he was invariably told no so. It's this sort of Nirvana the annihilation that we get all this. These in a Pantheon systems listening congress in the crusade. Premium Channel Partner Veritas Radio Network. This brother Marie. And we're interviewing my guest. Rick Delano retirement restoring the cosmic icon with Wolfgang Smith. So he turned off as it were. He's disappointed by this concept of annihilation that he's that nothing exists of the man. Afterwards he describes it as the drop of two in the ocean. Though the the gets no larger and the DUDEK disappears. What what was it? All for the what fascinated me was that even even so he comes back. He's in. He's in the United States. Eventually he gets married to Teja Who was a doctoral student? I I I guess at Oregon State right where he was teaching. That's correct and and she was a Catholic and she was a pious Catholic. He describes her as far as a deep deep deeply rooted Catholic and now she made no overt efforts to to convert him but she he finds out later that a Franciscan priest and Tara are both pranksters conversion but he kept looking for wisdom. And he's reading. I was W- apparently what converted him was reading two books. The commentary in Saint John by Saint Augustine in its Gospel. And then the the life of Saints Catherine Tanna. Which is its ECLECTIC reading. I mean the the the the no this. This is the profound thing. What what's what's what's profound here and again. I'm very proud of this. In the film is an indispensable presence in this film. She died the day that we were originally scheduled. I knew who with Wolfgang was the day. That tail left this world dear so I was never able. I was never able to meet her. What it was incredibly apparent to me that that this formation of this man owes so much to to the simple prayerful beseeching of heaven almost like Saint Monica. You know praying year after year after year with the Franciscan Father Giovanni and I know Wolfgang well enough to know that you would have been absolutely wasting your time to try and argue into. It would have been a complete waste of time. He's way too smart not going to happen so they were smart enough to take it to the supernatural and they laid it at the feet of Heaven and this was how he was eventually brought into contact with these. Two seminal works. The commentary on Saint. John's Gospel of Saint Augustine and Catherine of Sienna and these two things working in concert did the trick because what what had the Hindus done for Wolfgang they had set him up finally to understand what it is about our holy faith that is found absolutely nowhere else. And it is the incarnation the income son of God. This was the answer to everything that he had been looking for. All of a sudden his Christianity was not something inherited or something you know that he did on Sunday when he was a little boy. And you know all the smarter. People sort of snickered added in the meantime. Here's where he confronted the living. Lightning the power of our holy. Faith is in the incarnation of the son of God because now that Christ has become mad it becomes as the fathers would say it becomes possible for man to be deified.

Wolfgang Smith Rabindranath Tagore Saint Augustine India executive Himalayas Saint Monica Austria cornell Oregon Catherine Tanna Gore United States Rick Delano Saint Augustine Veritas Radio Network Teja Marie Tara
SYMHC Classics: Tagore, Erstwhile Knight

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34:09 min | 1 year ago

SYMHC Classics: Tagore, Erstwhile Knight

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Notre Dame women's basketball coach. Muffin McGraw's battling losing record every game knowing you're supposed to win. That really weighs heavy on your shoulders and I think I said at one point. Wouldn't it be great to be the underdog again? My husband said be careful what you wish for, and here we are listening to the only way is through available now on the iheartradio APP or wherever you get your podcast. Happy Saturday everybody before we get to today's classic. This week we put out a playlist of some of our otter and mostly more upbeat episodes out of the Archive. We called that playlist offbeat history with this ongoing coronavirus pandemic. We thought it might give folks who are practicing some social distancing or sheltering in place or otherwise having some more time in relative isolation a little something extra to help pass the time. and several of our colleagues, other shows in our IHEART podcast family have done the same thing, and so we've launched new feed for all of those, so it's all of those pandemic collections. It's called the best of stuff, and you should be able to find it wherever you get your podcasts, and that will move on to today's Saturday classic. It is World Poetry Day so today we're sharing an episode from the Archive. That's on poet Rabindranath Tagore. who was a Bengali poet and was the first Asian Nobel laureate? This episode originally came out on November. Twenty, second two, thousand ten, and it is from previous hosts. Sarah and Dobalina so enjoy. Welcome to stuff. You missed in History Class A production of iheartradio. And welcome to the PODCAST I'm Sarah. Dowdy and I'm very happy to be joined by my new CO host today. I'm Dobalina Chakraborty I will be joining Sarah and talk to you about history stuff with you. Yeah, Dobalina is the homepage editor here at how stuff works so she basically programs the whole homepage every day, so if you've ever visited the site, you've seen Lena's handiwork. Yes, and I hope you've clicked on lots of. Quick, lots of links. That's what we all want you to do, but Dobalina. Why don't you give us a little background on this topic and explain why he picked today? Sure well today's topic. Is a little bit maybe appropriately, maybe inappropriately personal to myself. My parents are from India their Bengali and our topic today is Robin to Gore who is a well known Bengali figure, probably best known for being the first Asian Nobel laureate. And it's one hundred fiftieth anniversary of his birth, so it's been the news a lot lately. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on to celebrate his birthday Sierra including the coca, the film festival has showed movies that are based on his works People are performing his plays. School children are performing his songs and his dance dramas, and so it's a big to do. There's a traveling train which seems like probably the best part of the celebration. In my opinion, the traveling train indeed awesome. It is visiting cities throughout India until next May and each car features kind of a different aspect since featuring mostly arts type stuff, the other celebrations Argon Museum on the move, essentially exactly great but a Lotta people don't really appreciate how. Just how much of an accomplished artist this guy was! How much of an accomplished poet he was! He was a singer a philosopher. In politics. He was an educator, a reformer He wasn't a politician exactly, but I mean his influence. There is pretty great, too. He he just touched on so many different things kind of. A. Kind of inspiring when you start looking at his life and also sort of makes you feel like. Not Up to that what? Right so his work in the political arena and his reformation efforts that you mentioned last. Those are probably the things that are lesser known about a most people know about his arts. His involvement in the art scene in India all his contributions. There's far songs plays dramas. Everything goes, but. I think that people don't know what contributed as far as politics. Lenny's. He's not that well known in the West at all so I. Mean we have a lot to explore? Even things is famous for an India. Definitely one of the things that he is famous for that will take a look at today. He was knighted by the British government, and some accused him of being appropriate or shall lead us. There's some controversy around that night to talk about a little later. We will but really what we're going to look at. It is just was he a national astronaut was this just a different approach to nationalism for him his involvement in politics. And look at his renunciation of the of the knighthood, and what surrounded that? So before we get into that? Let's look at his beginnings. He was born, may sixth eighteen sixty one in Calcutta into a well to do well educated very artistic progressive family. Yeah, he was really exposed to a lot as a kid, too. I mean his family would have been reading Sanskrit and ancient Hindu taxed in Persian literature and known Islamic tradition, so imagine it this real melting pot in his home of learning and. Just a lot of intelligent discussion I imagine definitely I think it was unique to any culture the time and Let's talk about that time a little bit. It was during British rule in India, when he was born and his family. The Gore's they were very active in the Bengal renaissance it, which was basically a movement that began in the mid eighteen sixties to protect national culture. It was really to preserve the local culture. The arts all the things that has family wanted to celebrate the traditional heritage and it was a response to English. So they would throw festivals every year. That featured Indian songs and poems and dances, and you mentioned wrestling match. Earlier I thought that was kind of surprised during in there, but hey, it's a part of culture and. The Arts with a little wrestling boards aspect of culture I like sports. So in addition to being involved in the yearly cultural event. To Gore's father wgn off to Gore. He was very involved in something. Called the Brahma Samaj the Roma was basically of movement within Hinduism, which was established around nineteen, twenty, eight, or so, and it was an attempt to reform Hinduism. What I mean by that is that it incorporated some aspects of Christianity it denounced things like polytheism and idol worship, and also denounced the caste system so through this they were trying to enact some sort of social reform, but it never really became widely popular. Yeah, Yeah I mean it even though I. Guess it's still technically around today. It didn't really grow much past the Twentieth Century or the Early Twentieth Century Yeah. It's definitely recognized as a movement within Hinduism but I don't think it reached. Maybe the heights that to Gore's father wanted it to. The BRAHMA SMUDGE movement it did lose steam the twentieth century, but the important thing about that is that we can see into Gore's life that it was combining these and western ideals that will see kind of throughout his development, and in his work and his philosophy, so that's the beginnings of that I guess yeah, but I mean if we're talking about his childhood intellectual life aside He was Kinda lonely that close to. To his parents? This is according to his own memoirs His Dad was gone a lot traveling on business and some people have suggested that he just didn't really get much attention and love growing up and sort of felt neglected in that respect. Yeah, he did. He just give us a accounts of traveling with his father and his adolescence, but from what we can tell. He wasn't really that close to anyone. Robie is he was sometimes called wasn't really close to his folks but that might have been a good thing because he was given a lot of freedom, because of that he was given a lot of space to develop creatively into right, and that's exactly what he did. Yeah, so he started writing at a very young age and kept on doing it over. Over six decades ended up writing about two thousand five hundred songs and twenty eight volumes of poetry, drama opera, short stories, novels, essays and diaries plus a bunch of letter. So this is what we met at the beginning. We're staying. This can make you feel a little inadequate. He lived a very long time, but he was writing for his entire life pretty much nonstop. Definitely in eighteen, seventy seven, he actually went to to study for about a year at the University College of London. And while he was there, he wrote some more to. He wrote some plays, and he was introduced to the Western style of music there, but it didn't really last he ended up coming back after a year and the only thing that I could find on that as the. He thought it was too cold. Complaint! It's Legit I. Mean I've lived in cold places. It's tough, but. That was definitely an influence in his life. Though I think yeah, so you know he he came back to India after just about a year studies, but he kept on writing, and he published his first book of poetry when he was only about seventeen, and then throughout the eighteen eighty s, he kept on putting out books all leading up to Masih, which was published in eighteen, ninety, and that sort of one of his first works that. Is Fairly well-known right. Of His well-known poems, and some of his well known political satire, and commentary is in that book and that satire did take kind of a critical tone towards his fellow Bengali and so we see kind of his. Starting of his evolution of his political views, social views there yeah, because that tone starts to change to in the eighteen ninety s because of his traveling in a few events that happen Yup as we mentioned earlier to Gore's family was pretty wealthy, so they had both home in the city, and they had some states in East Bengal. which we know, today is Bala Dash. Hey, everybody we know that so many people who listen to our show have been trying to find some ways to fill some unexpected time at home as pretty much, the whole country has gone into a more protective mood in the face of the current pandemic, so we wanted to help out, and we came up with a list of shows that are a little lighter in tone, and maybe a little funny to help lift sue spirits and. And also just provide an escape from the things that are going on. This is something we are calling our offbeat his playlist. It is going to drop as ten episodes into our shows feed. That is going to happen on Thursday march nineteenth. They will all be labeled as our offbeat history playlists, so you'll know what that is when you see it, so we hope that it helps you get through this crazy time and that you enjoy. Hey guys. It's bobby bones I host the bobby bones show and pretty much always because I wake up at three o'clock in the morning a couple of hours later I. Get all my friends together. We get into a room and we do a radio show. Wish you're alive. We tell our stories. We try to find as much good in the world if he. He possibly can, and we look through the news of the day that you'll care about also your favorite country artists are always stopping by to hang out and share their lives and music, too, so wake up with a bunch of my friends on ninety eight point seven W. M Z Q in Washington, DC or wherever the rotates you on the iheartradio APP. So he went for a while now eight hundred nine hundred s to manage his. Father's estates there and he stayed there for about a decade, but the area was pretty rural, pretty proverty stricken, and he was in close contact with villagers while he was there, so it really gave him a new outlook, so to speak, he gained a lot of sympathy for the plight of the locals. There I, think and this began to. Inform his writing a lot. Yeah and change his style little to even yeah well. He started writing in a little bit of a new style. At that time, he started experimenting a little bit more with free verse as opposed to earlier when he was I. Think when he was younger, he was mostly writing in traditional classical Indian forms again. A Bengal renaissance thing the idea of preserving culture, but as he got more into the one, thousand, nine, hundred started being a little more flexible with his form, so that was one thing, but then also his subject matter I think started to explore more of what he had seen some of more of the issues he had seen in rural Bengal and so this informed his work. Yeah, and I mean it wasn't just limited to his own experiences to. Be influenced by some world events that were going on namely the Boer War in eighteen, ninety nine, and just a little, tried to do a real podcast on the board before, and it didn't really work out, but to give you a basic rundown of it was a conflict between the two independent Dutch speaking bower republics of South Africa and the British Empire, and it was very bloody at the end, the bower republics agreed to come under the sovereignty of the British crown, so to Gore was already starting to get kinda interested in politics political writing when this was going on, but the bower war really. It it got him more interested in it it. It made him look more into world politics world events. Yep So let's talk about Gore's politics, a little bit just to give people an idea of what was going on in his mind, and what point view he was coming from a lot of people as we said before especially anti-colonial nationalist, they accused of being pro British and against the nationalist movement, and this wasn't. Kind of had some truth to. It may be, but wasn't exactly true. To Gore was against colonialism. Just put that out there. He wanted India to be an independent nation, but he didn't think that. The confrontation and non-cooperation tactics that were used by some of his contemporaries. Gandhi obviously a very famous one Muhannad Gandhi. who was actually his friend so they? They differed in this way. He was one who who did use these tactics, and and they disagreed on on this, but they were still very good friends. He was actually the first to call Gandhi Mahatma, which means great soul, which I just learned that in this podcast, so was it fun fact, but he certainly wasn't a pro British. He wanted India to be. It's an country. Exactly, he just didn't think that a change a straight change and political regime as all that they needed. His answer. To the problem of India was education. He proposed that only through education. Could the their nation really affect true change? AM actually as an example of this I found a statement that he made in nineteen o nine, which was actually a letter to an American lawyer who had written him talking about the problem of India and what was going on with colonialism, and it was from a lawyer named Myron, Phelps and to Gore put it this way to him. He said for us. There can be no question of blind revolution, but of steady and purposeful education. He said, that's basically what it would take to snap his people out of the quote trance, but cold blooded repression had put them under. Yeah, so I mean some people see this as just a different approach to nationalism it's it's not revolution. It's revolution through education. Yeah, he wanted his country not just to be independent, but to be independent and truly truly independent. Every aspect know not just be free from an oppressive government, but to be able to stand alone as a nation. And he thought education was the only way that they would be able to do that. So yeah, you're right. Some people do just think that this is a different approach nationalism. That he was taking so a good thing to do. Though if you're interested in education is to start your own school. Why not because exactly what he did? He did just that he founded an experimental school at Shantha. Nicky, Tan, it's a small town in West Bengal. Which means abode of peace, and this wasn't his first experience with this town. His Dad had founded a Ashram there, so he founded to the school there. There too, and his whole idea behind the school was pretty much goes along with his philosophy that he's had all along, you know. He felt that the east and west needed each other, and so he wanted to incorporate both types of thought into this school that he had so what he did as he got both Indian and Western scholars to teach there and It was a different kind of environment than outdoor class. Outdoor classes. That's pretty neat. I like the sound of that but just because he's running. The school sounds like that would of keep you preoccupied. Don't think he's not writing. He still writing prolifically and unfortunately going through a few personal tragedies in early nineteen hundreds, his wife died in eighteen o two Incidentally, they had gotten married when she was only ten years. Years Old, and he was twenty two and then after his wife died, he also lost his father and two of his children all in this really short period of time. Yes, and it was the sadness resulting from these events that inspired several poems. Song poems is sometimes called which he translated into English and published as a section called Keith Anjali in nineteen twelve. And some have said that the fact that he did translate themselves is not necessarily a good thing, yeah! I mean they still sold well? Apparently between March, and November nineteen, thirteen over ten reprints but. His his translations came under a lot of later. If if you've ever come across him in the literature, class or something, and you're outside of India. It might be some sort of comparison to wbz gates, and they were friends. If you could call it that for about thirty seven years that a really long relationship with each other and use is largely credited to exposing him to the West know introducing him to the West and helping make him famous there, but they had kind of a tumultuous friendship to say the least. Yet they actually met through William Roth and Stein a he was an artist who hosted to Gore in London in around Nineteen, twelve, nineteen, thirteen, so around the time that he was publishing the translation. And when too arrived, he gave Rothstein Stein English translation of these poems and Rosenstein. Then sent them to Yates and some other. Some other people about town Yates apparently loved them. He was really really into them. He apparently said quote. I've carried the translations of these manuscripts about with me for days reading it in railway, trains, or on top of omnibuses, or in restaurants, and I've often had to close it less some stranger. See how much it moved me. But. I don't know. Maybe we should talk about Yates later opinion and a minute, because this is the this to Gore's rising star. At this point, this is his fame starting to spread throughout the West as well as the east, so people finally got to know him through this, they finally got to know him through this English translation, and through people kind of spreading the word about him and. Lead I will not people spreading the word, but just as talent I guess led to him winning the Nobel Prize for Literature in Nineteen Thirteen, as we mentioned, he was the first Asian to receive such an honor, and after that his fame kind of grew exponentially fame, outside of India that is. He was knighted by King George the fifth of Britain in Nineteen Fifteen, and he started traveling abroad a lot more. He wasn't an India as much as he used to be. He was doing lectures and readings. He went to Europe North America South America Asia. Asia all over the place, so yeah, he was one of the most famous Indians in the world at this point, perhaps the most famous. The only way is through. A new podcast in partnership with iheartradio underarm. Join us as we hear from the world's greatest athletes, coaches and trainers, as they discuss how they utilize training, competition and recovery to improve their performance and pushed through. Hall of Fame Women's Basketball Coaching Muffin McGraw has established a culture of winning through her historic thirty five season career Notre Dame, but this season coaching. Her team are trying everything. Is there against a losing record? Here's coastal grow. I've never been in this situation before having lost five starters, and I was just thinking the other day. Going through things and the stress of being number one being the team to beat being every game. No, you're supposed to win that that really weighs heavy on your shoulders tonight. I think I said at one point when it'd be great to be the underdog again and my husband said be careful what you wish for and here we are. Listen to. The only way is through available now on iheartradio APP. Or wherever you get your podcast. But then unfortunately something really bad happened on April thirteenth nineteen. Nineteen in th- czar, which was located in the state of Punjab in India. British soldiers fired on an unarmed gathering of men, women and children who had come into the city to partake in a traditional Sikh festival. There was a peaceful nationalist demonstration going on that day, but many of the people who. who were around who are involved in the shooting? They weren't really part of the demonstration. Exactly they were completely kind of innocent of whatever was going on, so a lot of lives were lost, and we don't know exactly how many a lot of sources you look at, and I think the official number reported by the British Raj was three, hundred, seventy nine, but some people say the could have been as. As many as a thousand or more well, and then the accounts of it in the British press were especially disturbing. You know they were treating it as though it had been a riot, and the people who were killed had gotten themselves into trouble, essentially and people just had a very unfortunate reaction to to the whole thing that went down. Yeah, it was weird. It was a big cover up For obvious reasons, they didn't want people to know that this had gone down. The way had because there was basically no reason for these people being killed, so they had to spin it. They had to spin it and but then there were marines of course of what had really happened. Throughout India and took Gore caught wind of this, and he was pretty disgusted by the entire situation. It kind of changed his outlook, and it definitely changed the way he felt about being British night, so he wrote a letter to Lord Chelmsford, who was the Viceroy of India the? The time and renounced his knighthood. If you read his letter, it's interesting because it is so formal so polite. It's very written and very precise English, but I don't know he's clearly very deeply disturbed by what's happened and can't reconcile being a night with supporting the definitely, we have a little excerpt from the letter just to give you an idea of how incense was the situation. He says the very least I can do for my country to take all consequences upon myself in giving voice to the protest of millions of my countrymen surprised into dumb anguish of tear. The time has come when badges of honour make our shame glaring in their incongruous context of humiliation and I for my part, wish to stand shorn of all special distinctions by the side of those of my countrymen, who, for their so called insignificance are liable to suffer degradation, not fit for human beings. Yeah, so this was the end of this quote. Total cooperation with the British in it changed people's opinions of him to He wasn't the same guy anymore, and I mean we can talk about that. Maybe I in a literary sense with the Eighth 'cause, I people suggested that this is part of the reason why gates opinion of Takur soured. According to on a car to Gore's resigning, his knighthood just didn't match up correctly with the idea, yates had of him as this serene mystic from the east, who certainly wouldn't get involved in politics certainly wouldn't do anything as bold as renounced his knighthood it. It just didn't match up with Yates's to Gore and of course I mean we can assume there's some other reasons in here. Yates really didn't like to Gore's translations. As we mentioned earlier he was probably bound to be disappointed in this creation, he had imagined for himself because to Gore did right so much more than just romantic poetry, he wrote. Essays and plays and prose. I mean we have to assume it. It did play a role. I i. think it did, but I think at the same time there had to be more to it I mean they knew each other, so he must have known that there was more Gore than just romantic literature and poetry that he wrote he did a lot of political writing a lot of speaking. He was kind of a voice for for the way he had publicly promoted him. Though Yep I guess. Guess, so that's true, but I guess it was bound to happen since two other things anyway, so there was bound to be some kind of falling out between them at some point, but it changed. It changed. What Yates Thought of to Gore at least in the you know outwardly, and it changed. I think what to Gore thought of his own views a little bit too definitely. He didn't really he didn't. Didn't really change his views about the east and west needing each other. He still thought that he still thought he wanted to see kind of a universal land where where people are, cultures would come together, and there weren't all these barriers between them, but at the same time he I think he was very conflicted about the situation that happened especially because he had English friends, and so it made the. The situation kind of difficult for them. And he tried to express these feelings through his work after the fact, yeah, and after this he kept on traveling, so he was still out and about in the world very much so he said who visited more than thirty countries on five continents, lecturing and having these extended conversations with people like Einstein on truth and beauty. They have this like amazing debate. and. Music I mean stuff that you wouldn't. Even you know think of Einstein talking about? But I mean to Gore is is all over the world. He meets Mussolini and it takes them a little while before he starts hearing reports about the fascism that's going on in Italy from some `exiles and denounces Mussalini, but yeah, even then you know his his denunciations are still very polite and proper interesting to read them up. Never loses his smooth talking. but so he the going around the world. It's partially to speak because he's asked and to to speak on behalf of the Independence Movement but it's also to earn money for his school. He still stumping for his cause, which is education and he's still out there trying to keep the school this eccentric school that he started going. and. Later. This school in Nicotiana becomes a university called. This Bharati University in Nineteen, twenty one. And, so he has some success with that, but it sort of peters out as he Yeah you're talking about it. The support it what it's like today kind of more of a place where you can learn about him than a university I think it's more to study his philosophies and so forth. Necessarily but it does still exist. Yes, you can still visited today actually. I think that India's recently nominated to be a world hair. UNESCO World Heritage. Site you've been there I've been there I went there when I was fourteen although I can't remember too much unfortunately, but I do remember it being very screen and and liking it lot. That's a rule of the PODCAST. You always have to mention the post. It makes everybody think we're. We're going all over the world seeing all this stuff. Oh Dear! Not, really guys but I. Don't know even with all of this traveling around the world and promoting in school and promoting his writings, he kinda kept his distance from the more confrontational side of the nationalist movement. He didn't get super involved in not even after this release his knighthood and all that. No. He's still kept his distance He was still part of it through his writings through his talks that he gave and he was still friends with Gandhi. Of course, even though he didn't necessarily support a reaction that he did but but he didn't get too too involved. And unfortunately he passed away about seven years before indy actually achieved independence in nineteen, forty seven. But. On the bright side, maybe India's national anthem Jonah Gone Anna is based on one of his song poems, and another of his songs. MARSHAWN are Bangala. Is Bangladesh's national anthem. Yes, so that's pretty impressive. Yes, Sir I think so. He still gets to be a part of it. It's not easy to forget him at all. Still a big part of the national culture every time they sing the national anthem or here it's think of him. And and music art, actually an interesting fact about as art. He didn't take painting until he was about seventy years old. Which I think is amazing, so he takes painting at age seventy, yet somehow he managed to create about two thousand paintings and drawings for he died. Around each eighty was busy though that's incredible. Thank you so much for joining us today for this Saturday classic. If you have heard any kind of email address, maybe facebook url during the course of the episode. That might be obsolete. It might be doubly obsolete because we have changed our email address again. You can now reach us at history podcast. iheartradio DOT COM, and we're all over social media at missed in history, and you can subscribe to our show on apple podcast Google podcast the iheartradio APP, and wherever else he was into podcasts. 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SWEETLUCK'S "WOLVES HOWL AT FULL MOON"

Antonio B Jackson Presents Sweetluck's "Bar Fights"

20:38 min | Last month

SWEETLUCK'S "WOLVES HOWL AT FULL MOON"

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180: Creating a Lasting Change with Jessica Ortner

Kwik Brain with Jim Kwik

17:23 min | 9 months ago

180: Creating a Lasting Change with Jessica Ortner

"Hi this is Jim. Quick and I have a quick update for you on proud to announce my very first book limitless up greater brain. Learn anything faster in unlock. Your exceptional life Miss Book is not only based on the latest neuroscience in his field, tested for over twenty ears of working with some of the most amazing minds on our planet. Just go to limitless book Dot Com and enjoy this book welcomed the Quick Brain, bite-size brain hacks for busy people who wanna learn faster and achieve more I'm your coach Jim Quick. Three. Semaj, if we could access one hundred percent about brains capacity, and I wasn't high wasn't wired just clear. I knew what I needed to do and how to I know. SHOWMAN! All right, so let's let's jump into this right now and I'm going to invite my very first guest, and this is your instructor you're in for a real real treats here, and because she is not only one of my dearest friends. But what am I one of my long time friends, this is. What fourteen years your times. bestselling author, Jessica Order and Jessica thanks for being here. Thank you so much for having me yeah. We've been friends for so many years and I am so proud of you. Spoke is unbelievable and I'm just so excited to be here. No, thank you so much and so just has written a couple books her. Latest book is this I believe the tapping solution to creating lasting change guy to get unstuck and find your flow, and so you and I. You've helped me tremendously to be able to emit myself in in in areas of beliefs of anxiety I felt going on stage. I feel it might says is the starting point for all of this, and so and you and I have kind of parallels story because I know you weren't a. You Learner back in school. Yeah I had a lot of trauma when it came to school a lot of test anxiety. You mentioned in your book that one of the ways that we can memorize things is by putting a motion wrapping motion to things well, one of the challenges is when we feel embarrassed at school, or we have a tough event there so much emotion around that that it's easy to remember all the Times that people pointed out that we weren't enough. and. It's not as easy to remember all the Times where we did great things, and so because we work like this, we have to take a closer look at. Our past and see what are some of the beliefs that I picked up and for me I had trouble reading I stayed back in second grade and I was embarrassed. We forget that second graders can feel really really embarrassed, and even when I would achieve things or get a good grade I always felt like a fraud. I always felt like I was working hard to trick everybody into believing. Believing that I was meant to be there, and then I was smart enough, and it wasn't until I learnt this technique that we're gonNA be doing together. That I realized I had to look at some of those old stories and anxieties, and do some things that because my body was remembering. I would go back to that testing Zaidi, even as a twenty five year old the thirty year old. So, what we're, GONNA do today is learn a way that we can calm anxiety. Calm our body so that we don't have to be ruled by these old experiences. So, what is he up to your top? Yeah, absolutely, it's called tapping because we're tapping on these acupressure points on our body when we have things. -IETY when we've remember that old. Memory feeling embarrassed and having fears around learning. It's not just the experience we have in our brain. We feel it with our whole body. We get that tension in our chester in our stomach, so it's amazing to had a technique that uses the mind and the body. So when we're having this this memory, the fear. What's happening as you know Jim is, we're having this kind of fight or flight response, even though we're just about to go on stage, and we are safe and everything's okay. We are having this response as if we are are endanger. As if a wild animal jumped out of the woods in his attacking us. We have an overproduction of Cortisol. adrenaline our heart starts race, and in that moment it's very hard to be creative and resourceful and innovative. So what we're doing here is we're getting really clear on the thought or the memory. That's creating the anxiety in your body, so you don't just jump to positive thinking you give yourself a moment to honor where you are on how you're feeling. So you think about that memory that's triggering the physical response and as you think of that memory. Memory you begin to stimulate, these acupressure points what happens is it sends calming signal to Your Brain, and it rewires that thought so if you have a negative thought, but your body feels relaxed. It's easier to take a step back and go. Is that really true? Is that really what I think? But when we have a negative belief and the anxiety is very real. It's hard to get out of that state and so what we're doing with. Is were honoring the fear where tapping on these points sending that calming signal note to the brain, you can think that limiting belief, but now from a place now you can go. Is that really true in feel more empowered to choose something else, and if I said to you, Hey, relax, you have nothing to worry about, and you're feeling incredibly anxious. Those words aren't so calming because. Because there's no space for them, we have to weed I. We have to be able to honor our experience what we're really feeling and let our mind and body know that we're safe. That's what it comes down to. It comes down to safety anytime. We try something new. We're wondering. Is it safe for me to do this or will I? Get criticized and we'll that feel unsafe. The more that we can feel safe in our mind and body to experiment to even make mistakes, the easier it is to learn in your book I love how when you talk about these beliefs you talk about. Kids and kids don't really care what other people think. They're not so involved in their outside world, so you see them, make mistakes and figure things out and they had that patience. Patience because there's that playfulness, they don't have the pressure. When we release the stress and the pressure to be perfect, and when we can allow ourselves to make mistakes, we actually can learn faster grow faster and really get to where we wanna be faster because the opposite of success isn't failure, failure is a part of success. We have the give ourselves permission to experiment and have that Child Lake. Feeling and experience. The opposite of success is not failure. Failures are of success and failure is not an option is going failures on options neither is success, so we have to be willing to make mistakes, but so many some keeps us limited, sometimes other people that we're going to try salsa. We're going to try Spanish ruins. Stand up comedy or some some new endeavor in. We're going to get We're GONNA. Be embarrassed when it's time for me to bump up. Up in any area of my life, there is some fear in that's normal. Because it's new, it's different. I just need to remind myself that I am safe. And that's what we need to do to each other to give ourselves permission to experiment and feel safe doing it. Yes, so it's it's tough. Sometimes sitting on mind and saying don't think these thoughts don't believe these thoughts when you have anxiety and so to be able to feel like you're safe in that. So, what would you recommend? How do we? How do we do in actual commits variances together. Let yet. Let's have an experience, so I'm GonNA. Show you. The tapping points are, and then we'll just do one or two rounds. You can have a quick experience and then I'll show you how you can do a longer session. It's perfect so the what everybody? Her loses amazing here I. Want everyone to do this. Remember that in the book knowledge is not power on power when we utilize so I want everyone to just how many people are willing to commit to do this through this experience with us right now? Now I can tell you. This has helped me and so many of my clients that I've sent to you and your team to be able to overcome this so where where she start all right, so the first tapping point is a side of the hand, and it doesn't matter what side of the body you tap on your. If you're watching this on video, Tab along with me. If you're listening to just the audio, I'll explain where the points are. The next one is the eyebrow point, and it's where the hair of your eyebrow eyebrow begins when people are stressed, they tend to grab onto this point. A funny right here. Yeah, we intuitively know these help us relaxed than we have on the side of the I right on the bone. Ben Follow Your Boning till you find yourself underneath the I. Then, we have underneath knows nose and I. Know I'm moving fast, but I'll give you resources to come back. Don't worry underneath the mouth between the Upper Lip Chin right on the crease. Then the collarbone point. If you feel your collarbone and you go down into, you're! GonNa hit it. Then, we have underneath the arm. It's a hand with from your armpit. And then right on top of the head, so these are nine really powerful Meridian points that help us relax. You start the process by getting clear on how you're feeling, and you start the setup statement now. The setup statement sets you up for the process and it simply acknowledging how you feel and having some level of acceptance. This helps us have A. A more honest conversation while we tap and it helps release judgment. We have to create a space where we can allow ourselves to be scared. Angry whatever we're feeling as we tap and relax our body so I'm thinking to lead you through Jim two quick rounds and everyone who's tapping also repeat after me. You can do it in your mind out loud. Jim If you can repeat. Loud out would be great. I and let's start by. If you think about something you've wanted to do that. You've been procrastinating on, so maybe it's even reading Jim's book or Finishing a resume something that makes you a little bit nervous. Think about any anxiety or nervousness you feel about starting something and just give that a number from zero to ten. Rates so now you've got number. Let's have a quick experience. A tapping on the side of the hand. Repeat after me. Even though I get really nervous, even though I get really nervous, everyone's saying this with me. When I try something new. Try something new. I accept how I feel I. How I feel. Even, though I'm really scared, even though I'm really scared. That things won't work out for me of things. Moment workout for me. I honor all of my feelings I honor all my feelings, and I give my body permission to relax, and I give my body permission to relax, even though I'm nervous, even though I'm nervous that things won't work for me, things won't work for me. I accept all of these feelings except all these feelings and I allow my body to relax, and I allow my body to relax, so then we start by tapping on the eyebrow, point and risk giving a voice to how we feel all this anxiety, all the security side of the I. I want things to change I want things to change under the I I want more out of life I want more out of life under the nose, but I'm scared of being disappointed. Scared being disappointed under the mouth. I'm scared to make a mistake. I'm scared. Mistake. Collarbone Psyche, procrastinating by keep under the arm because that feel safer because dodd fueled safer. Tab of the head when I'm dealing with all of this anxiety when I'm dealing with all this. Eyebrow I honor how hard this has been honored a hard. This has been cited the I, I recognize all of these fears I recognized all of these fears under the I, and I give my body permission to relax, and I give my body permission to relax under the nose right now and right here are now right here under the mouth. I am safe. I am safe. Collarbone it's safe to make a mistake safe to make mistake under the arm. It's safe to try something new. It's safe to try something new. Top of the head feeling safe to experiment doing safe to experiment I. Am Ready Ready. All Right now, take a nice deep breath then. Next Hail. Now we just did two rounds usually with the tapping meditations I do. It's more like six rounds, but that gives you an idea of what we do. We always start with how we feel acknowledged how we feel. And when we're starting to feel calm, then we can move to something more positive because then. There's room for that, but we always have to start honoring with. How're feeling? You See. How do people feel by the White You Chad? This, yes, ice a while just to round and such great feedback now. How many round? That's amazing after experience, that may be less just couple of minutes. What would you recommend people? They would do a number of cycles through. Yeah, so we have we have. An APP called the tapping solution APP and we have a free tapping. We have a lot of free. Tapping Meditations on my favorites is called releasing anxiety and out of two hundred and sixty thousand people who use this tapping meditation. The average decrease of anxiety was forty nine percent in under ten minutes, so you can almost cut your anxiety by half in just ten minutes, and so with the APP. We Have A. A lot of free material especially now around the anxiety around the krona virus, and we try to keep everything around ten minutes giving yourself ten minutes honor how you feel, and then move to something more empowering no I love that because all these behaviors that we want to do all the things that we went on lock in our life. Okay, keep us from getting. There's this belief that we can't are the things I do your stress around something, and we know that all learnings and just like life is state dependent. Of a way of calming yourself and telling your nervous system that you're safe, Adt, you can go forward than you could really be able to do that at butterfly. How do people find out about the APP? Yeah, so it's called the tapping solution APP. You can find it on Google. Play or in your APP store, and our website is the tapping solution dot com. We have a lot of. Of Great Research Studies, there's a lot of clinical trials that have come out, so the website is full of that and again. The tapping solution APP is a lot of free tapping meditations, and if you're a healthcare provider or teacher or mental health practitioner, we're giving out free memberships so you can go to the tapping solution dot com to learn more about that or find me. Me On instagram at Jessica. Werner amazing. Just what I recommend. Everybody do if you want to be able to share this. These thoughts with with everybody screen shot of this right now of this conversation and and Tag Jessica tagging myself in posted in and share with us how it's been for you, you know in in terms of what are you? What are you tapping for? Which experience has been? been and just thank you so much for for everything that you do your your inspiring force some nature and stop global force her good, and thank you for taking some of your time to share some of your talents of our communities appreciate you so much, thank you and congratulations. This is unbelievable and so proud of you in grateful to call you a friend. Thank you, thank you, Jesus. Wants to double your brain speed and memory power. If you'd like to learn rapidly and get ahead faster I'd like to give you my brand new quick brain accelerated program. You will discover exactly what I teach my clients to learn read and remember anything in half the time there is no charge is my gift to you for being one of our subscribers, that's K., W., high K., rain, dot, com, or simply text. The word podcasts two, nine, one, six, eight to two, seventy, two forty six, and will send you a directly. That's nine one six, eighty two. Growing up struggling with learning challenges from childhood brain injury. It's been my life's mission help. You have your very best brain, so you could win more every single day now one more rain here four ways to fast-track result and lock in which you just learned into your long term memory remember fast F., A. S. T.. The F. stands for facebook. You're not alone on this journey I invite you to join our free private online groups dairy connect with me your fellow brain lovers links to resources, and even submit your questions for me to answer in future episodes go to. To quick, brain dot com. That's K. W. I k.. Brain DOT COM, the a stands for apply hacked on what you learn today member knowledge is not power its potential power. It only becomes power when you use it and so us what you dislike, the s stands for subscribe. 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Tech solutions to journalism problems with Gabe Campodonico and Kelly Chen

The All Turtles Podcast

34:02 min | 1 year ago

Tech solutions to journalism problems with Gabe Campodonico and Kelly Chen

"Welcome to another episode of the turtles podcast show about entrepreneurship, and what each was going to do. Once the last episode of game of thrones is over with this week joking. Of course answer to that is nothing. I'm going to do anything that probably gonna go out of business, but people have to soldier on. Anyway, I'm fif- Lindsey of turtles. I'm feeling today for John because he's busy guess, I'm not. So I'll be hosting this episode today, I interviewed Gabe confidante and Kelly Chen who helped make sift sifters our news therapy app. Because I think the news is literally making us sick and Gabe, and Chris Ploeg, and I have been thinking about Sadia for for while is actually the very first idea. It was the Genesis of all turtles, and we finally release it and Kelly has been a great addition to the team. So we'll talk to them about what news therapy is all about and in particular, they came up with a really interesting experimental way to release this product, which I think is. We learned a lot from and hopefully will be of benefit to other people thinking about releasing products. So we chat about the problems of the product with solving and the intersection of technology and journalism and the incentives that make news feel so sick today. Then just going to dispense random vice entrepreneurs this time about money, which important topic. And here's the thing about advice. I guess this is an intro, but especially dropping some content right in this intro. Here's thing about advice when you get advice from someone they're never telling you what they actually did. They're telling you what they wish they would have done, which is why a lot of good advice is true. It rings true. Because the people giving it to you wish they have actually followed it. But they never did. Anyway. And then we take listener questions about our name. Why recalled if you already know that part just just skip skip the ending. Hope you enjoy this up Assad. So from sift. We have gay been Kelly here today. Woken guys. Hey, thanks for having us. So what is it was quick overview? So sift is an app where you can get background information about the really tough topics that we're dealing with in today's news. It goes through an overview of history. Most of the time. It's also got a lot of the underlying data and information that can help people kind of feel more grounded and better understand these contentious issues that are out in the world. Why did you why did you used to work on this? Well, it was. Probably back what mid twenty sixteen. There was an election going on. There was quite a bit of debate swirling around about a lot of issues immigration would be a good example of one of them and the coverage of it was so often very surface level, and it was fairly frustrating to actually try to go and find good information about what really was behind these topics. So we thought there should be a way to provide that for people. So we can have a better debate about these things. So I think some of our listeners have heard me talk about sift before. And again, though that that that you and I gave and Chris if you other people have been kind of thinking about this for a while, but Kelly how did how did you get involved in kind of what made you interested in this as a as a mission? So before said, I was at CNN, I was at Huffington Post the center for investigative reporting. So I come from a pretty hard news background where most often I was the one assigning breaking new stories and making sure it's accurate and out there in the world as quickly as possible. So all of those breaking news alerts that you get on your phone in the moment that happens, that's usually my responsibility and to come from that sort of urgency to something like sift where we're really taking a step back and kind of slowing down the pace of how you not only get news. But consume news was really fascinating with me and mostly because with sift. We have an opportunity to really put like the news consumer. I, you know, our team really prioritizes that which is not often the case with traditional newsrooms because they're just so many other responsibilities that you're supposed to be dealing with. And so having this opportunity to really think about how people are. To react to the news. And how they're going to have an appetite for. It was really something that was fascinating for me. When do you think the news started making sick win the start to happen? Like, I remember twenty years ago or something it wasn't anything like this five. But like something seems to have changed to wear uses really just meant to Tagore people. Keep state. Yeah. It's interesting because I come from a different sort of power perspective that like news hasn't EMMY feel like news is so much more heightened now, and partly because of the way we deliver things on platforms as television news, cable, news, social media, all of these different platforms are demised for certain things. But I think ultimately the way we produce news, and what we deem as newsworthy hasn't changed that dramatically one of our tracks Wego into one of our topics media literacy and really go into the history of. How news as an industry came about? And so we kind of unpack some of these assumptions on tippety on trust and figure out like where that power lies and who's the one really producing that information. So kind of making people think a little bit about whether news coming from that part hasn't changed. Do you think that maybe the news hasn't changed that much the way that we experience the way that we perceive it has changed and gotten worse. I think so I mean Kelly mentioned cable news part of that phenomenon is the idea of a twenty four hour news cycles. So if you have to fill that much time with something that is meant to at least seem important while it's it's maybe kind of the same stuff. It's coming at you in this kind of constant stream versus, you know, in at one time, you would wake up in the morning, you look at the newspaper, and that was your news for the for the day. Whereas now, it's you know, if you if you go online, it's up to the second up to the minute. I think maybe even. Kind of sharpen that like if you have to produce a, you know, a half hour one hour news show in a local news or even like what network needs to be. Like, you got gotta you got to produce an hour of news all the economics are basically. Yeah. You just want people tuning in for that our? But you're not trying to get them to stick around forever. And so you're gonna pack that our with whatever's going to the useful kind of get people interested. I guess soon as it became twenty four hours. Like, it's not like CNN could afford it to have twenty four times as much stuff. They couldn't afford twenty four x the expenses of making the news. But they needed to have people watching it like if you only watch CNN for an hour. They wouldn't commercially be successful. So all of a sudden it became like, how do you get key people hooked have you keep people watching somebody talked about the same exact thing for hours in time? And that just became engagement philosophy which I think directly to social media, which then made one hundred times worse because like Facebook Twitter, they really want you to if you're only using it for a half hour. That's not enough. I need you to keep doing it. So all of this dark science of keeping people in a heightened state of anxiety to keep them clicking and engaging. And watching something that I don't know probably started with twenty four hour cable news, and then and then just mushroom cloud exploded on social media right in this. The sophistication in the tool social media has to do that is kind of taken it to that next level where you know, they're building algorithms that are specifically tuned to keep you coming back. Keep you looking at things and spending as much time as possible to. So how do we push back on that cut? What what are the what are the things that are forcing the cable, news networks and the social media to do this thing, which is pretty harmful. And how do we avoid those things and and pushback little bit part of it starts at media literacy and understanding where you as a news consumer what your role is a lot of times when we feel like I'm being bombarded with news. Breaking news, polarized news. Left out of that. He Claes is you as a news consumer you have access you have power in what you're reading in how you're interacting with it. And what you choose to buy and purchase. So I think to combat the sort of sense of helplessness is really kind of putting that power and agency back into the hands of the news consumer I think throughout the last few years, especially with social media, and technology and different platforms kind of incentivizing the wrong things. It's really too cold to remember that news consumers have power to change the way things are produced builder side of that is also kind of the business model right where the incentive. So most media right now is by advertising, which is all about getting as much as many eyeballs as possible. We are looking at other ways we want to sell what we do directly to our readers a lot of the industry's moving towards. Direction with different membership models subscription models. And now we're kind of at a place where we're going to see if the audience is really going to put their money where their mouth is. They say they want something a little bit more in depth more thoughtful less harmful, you know, this equation needs to work with everybody in it. I think the problem isn't even even just advertiser anything the problem very specifically is cheap advertising targeted advertising. I think it's when you know when advertising was like a full page ad in life magazine that was a very expensive thing. But everyone who looked at life magazine, which is a pretty broad spectrum of the population with see the exact same add new kind of had to make the advertising something that would convince a lot of different people to try your product. Whereas now with advertising being so micro targeted and so cheap. It's really about like, what is the sharpest thing that you can say to this individual person for very very very little incremental expense. But that means that the only businesses that can survive to do that are. The platforms that have continuous constant engagement. So it's like death by a million tiny little messages that are meant to attack night you so we can came up with a concept right of news therapy, which is what we're recalling sift and can even experimental DEA. And so you took an experimental approach to to rolling it out in talk about that talk about that kind of the experimental approach and the rollout the tests that that we did back in the fall and a single topic. And what what were we actually trying to experiment with what we're trying to learn and hundred ago, sir. Yeah. I mean, that's really where it started. We kind of had three three questions that we wanted to get answered we wanted to we had this idea of news therapy. We wanted to know if the things we were doing to support that would actually work. So our first question was does this work. Another question is will people are people interested will they read it? And the third question is will will people pay pay for it? And as soon. We had those questions you start thinking about. Okay. What kind of study can we do? How can we how can we get answers to these questions, and we fairly quickly came to the conclusion the best way to do that is just to get this out in front of as many people as possible. So rather than kind of running more traditional studies. We put together kind of a a very contained experience. So it was one topic. We book ended it with some questions to help understand how people are feeling before. And after reading this topic, and we released that into the app store where we could get kind of direct feedback from real users. And we ran that for about two months and got really great feedback. And really a great volume of information to help us understand what the next steps might be. What were the what were the quantitative results in that kind of the highlight numbers the questions about how will this work were whereabout enzyme? So how anxious do you feel before? And after were about feeling overwhelmed. That's another big problem. People have with the news. It's just so so much information. They feel overwhelmed by it. So we wanted to kind of test how people felt before. And after for that as well. And the the numbers came back around thirty percent improvement for those things before and after which were actually kind of above and beyond what we are looking for. We were we were looking for getting something around twenty percent. So those results were quite good would also add that our users curiosity spiked as well after going through our topic and safe. So it's really coming back to ideas of how do you? Stay informed without feeling overwhelmed, but also feeling grounded and empowered to kind of go about your day without feeling so helpless, so people use sift. And then feel more in control your less less anxious. More curious about the news. Topics. Do you expect shift to replace how you consume the news? I'm certainly not. The news. Is there for reason? Right. Like, our, you know, whenever there's a breaking news event whenever there's a tragedy or like a fire an earthquake. Where do you go? You turn to the news. Like, they are the ones to give you up to the minute accurate information. Expect people to turn to sift knelt for their no. We see it as something supplemental. So you will use sift to better understand the news reading, it's we're we're not reporting on rainy Brennan, his at all better understand the bills are just experience it in a healthier way for share almost like build up the the resilience to be able to to deal with the onslaught of news that you normally get in a in a healthy away with a healthier response. Topics are designed to use data and interacted in a way, we wear where allowing users to kind of pause before they read something before they, you know, consume a sort of fact. That kind of challenges assumptions a little bit. So it's like at what year they're kind of like little quizzes world where you have to use a little bit more of your brain to kind of engage that learning experience. So it when we first started thinking about this. We thought that it'd be a pretty heavy AI component in this. And then kinda decided, Nope. There's actually no need for have to have any in here. And so now, this is a purely manual process, you describe what is the process for writing and editing and researching this. Yeah. So it's long and ongoing process for our first series. We've decided to tackle six very big hefty topics that includes immigration climate change media literacy guns healthcare, as well as education, and with each of these topics we have worked with several editors and journalists and researchers data editors to kind of figure out what is the best way to kind of surface. A lot of the new ones within these big contentious, topics. And so that process takes a lot of time like we can't use or some sort of aggregation to to surface that kind of nuance. So it really takes all of us as a team effort collectively to think. Okay. Here's all the information. How do we present this in a way that is most acceptable to our users, and that processes very collaborative revisions a lot of editing, and we somehow end up with. A topic. Part of the challenge is always going to be what topics should we cover? So part of that criteria has to do with. We're trying to talk about things that are difficult are contentious are the things that are being debated. We want those things to be things that have a healthy debate around them things that have good faith arguments, multiple good-faith arguments. So that that is part of the criteria that goes into it. And that's interesting because like that's something that feels like a sorely missing. From a lot of cable news and internet news are the good faith arguments. Like, you tend to be because like no one's really trying to convince anyone of anything. They're just trying to rile people up. So you just don't get exposed to like the good faith arguments on the other side. You get exposed to like the good. The arguments are supposed to make you feel righteously angry on your side. And then like the other ring or like demonization of anyone who disagrees with you. Absolutely. And I think one of the things one of the other things that happen is that when when you you know, they use evidence data quite. Bit in in the news because it's it's an important part of it. But until you actually start digging into these things what you won't realize there. There's always nuances always caveat statistics. Get thrown out all the time as kind of like absolute proof of something. One thing we tried to do is say based based on the state of based on these numbers, this this is a reasonable conclusion. But always include those caveats what what are other ways to interpret it? What are what are the other angles, which isn't necessarily a good way to kind of like convinced something of a thing? But if what your goal is to actually help people understand the complexity of of thing than that that can be really powerful think. That's why we are so different from the news where you know, when we produce news. We need a good headline a good very tight body copy if it's TV package or whatever here with sift. We have the time to kind of explore those nuances and complexity and are kind of takeaway isn't like a hot take on. You know, you should have XYZ opinion on immigration. It's be okay with the complexity of it be okay with nuance and the discomfort that there are pros and cons, and then figure out where you fall in there somewhere and kind of be okay that there are people who disagree with you. That have good faith arguments in the rest of the internet seems have been set up to obscure that. So that it feels like you're constantly battling these monsters, and that's stressful. If that's real literally what you feel like so who's who's working on this with what's the team? Look like, so we have. Kind of two big main buckets of work that we have to do, you know, it's an ops. We have to build that. There's there's a there's a experience has to be wrapped around us, which is maybe a little bit different than to typical publishing. So there's kind of the design and engineering team. And then on the other side, there's the to'real team that actually has to develop and build all of this content. So Kelly can so one of the really unique things about our editorial team is that we don't we do work with and very traditional reporters and journalists and researchers who are experts in their field, including Louis Wallace who is doing our media literacy piece on objectivity and bias in the news as well. As working with editors who come from multiple disciplines, not just a news background, we work with others who come from poetry and translation and literature background and that level of just nuance and thinking about something differently from that approach has been really helpful in creating some. Thing that should be supplemental to news instead of something that replaces us news to know, this has been out for a few weeks now. So what what kind of feedback if we have gotten? It's been good feel three to start with a death threats. Yeah. There while we're still only at one. So we're still at a grand total of one. All right. I'm so that's good. I think we'll we'll see how it goes from here. Otherwise, it's been asking for more death threats internet, please to more. We're good one is. Okay. Yeah. Otherwise, I think the feedback we have gotten. Continues to tell us that this is something that's sorely needed. You know, sometimes you're creating a new thing. And it's very difficult to explain to people what it is. And they kind of look at you like, you know, I'm not quite sure if this if this is something anyone's going to want or use. But with sift as soon as you kind of get, you know, halfway into the expert explanation of it or as soon as someone uses it they very quickly say, oh, yes. This is something that sorely needed. It's an, you know, the the people who have used it certainly have have been great. Yeah. My personal experience and showing people have been the comments of the feedbacks are kind of he said, they're generally very positive in the journal like, oh, yeah, I really need this. But you know, we are on the internet. So there's a lot of there's a lot of criticism as well. What are what are the things that people are criticizing sift for our absorb these? We get really great like five four star reviews. And then it's like. One two star reviews so on the where basically like yelp people like us, but they hate our service or something like that. So it's fascinating. Because I feel like folks who somehow find us, but don't quite understand what we're doing kind of just want to feel their opinions and arguments kind of reinforced in that echo chamber, really use of that. Right. It's like there's a lot of people who like that is their perception of all media. Is you go there you'll this fuzziness of being reinforced and in when we don't offer that to them. They get really upset. We're not trying to show people. We're just trying to say like, we're not here to make an echo chamber rain where very much about, you know, consider different opinions and consider different approaches considered frameworks. And if people are not, you know there and open to that consideration where not necessarily going to be able to change your mind or that's not our goal at all. I think it's, you know, it's it's one of the court challenges, we have you know, there's being totally unbiased as more of an idea than anything actually exists in the world. And I think perception of bias is kind of more about where you're coming from than what any one media outlet is actually and these things changes change over time. So we're actually not trying to promote ourselves as as biased. But I think people pick up on this idea that this is something that's intentionally trying to be maybe less biased. And as soon as they see something. That's like no, I completely agree with that. Then they then it's we then they perceived bias essentially, it feels like what you're trying to do is not be necessarily less bias but less inflammatory. Yes. We wanna make arguments are information accessible so people do disagree. They can go directly to the sources correct directly to the primary material and dig deeper for themselves in and of course, we don't have an Android version yet. So. Ipad version a lot of heat about that. But those are come. I think that's a sign of success when people are asking for the Android version, you're onto something. Yeah. Exactly. This is terrible. And there's not enough of it. So how do people get sift as long as they have an iphone? Yes. You found. No, no Android version yet, but you can go onto the app store. Search search for sift news therapy, and you can download the app. Great. Thanks Kelly, and Gabe, it's been really rewarding seeing work on this. And and being a part of it. I hope we continue to have enough success to justify injured version. Really important. Thank you. Time for advice to preneurs segment was it vice at entrepreneurs whether they wanted. Unsolicited advice traders advising at you meta. Meta advice before we get to the actual advice met advices about advice, which is what someone gives you advice or not actually telling you like what they did there telling you what they wish that done. So it's almost never right. To ignore says more about the person giving the advice, and what they didn't accomplish them that anything should do kinda useful to hear about like people's failures. Even out super self aware about them, drew. On that note, some actual advice. This is about money in particular get a lot of questions about what kind of money to fund your company is better. You know, you need money to do stuff to fund your business Adlia, and you can get it from investors. You can get it from revenue you can get it from dead. You can get it by cutting expenses at some point this all the same. It's just all like, you have a choice, you could get it from investors or you get it from revenue. I'm not I think most people would opt to get money from revenue. Well, see a ha ha. And that's the question. Right. Is there is this assumption that like money from revenues better than money from investors? It's true. But is it? Well, that's not silicon valley's assumptions values such as money from investors at least for a while is better than money from revenue in also values. Always right. Damage, but I think it's a good question. And you think about like this like I think the misconception about money from revenue being better the money from investors is the assume that money from revenue somehow free because like you don't have to give anything away because if you get money from investors, you're giving something away you're being deluded as you're giving away ownership. But if he's just sell a product, and you've revenue you're not giving anything away lifeblood. Right. Exactly. Except your lifeblood wish cases like worth a lot more than your than your equity. And so the way they think think about money, and like you're in a position I was spot where where you have this executive your booking revenue like you're getting revenue, but you could also go and raise money from investors. And this is like, this is a trade off that's very topical and think a lot of for a lot of companies that is and in many cases, you really are better off taking money from investors and from revenue if you can get investors that are cheaper in terms of your time and effort and lifeblood than early customers. But if you can't then then the opposite is true. So there's nothing magic about one type or the other. I don't think one type of -serily better than the other. But depending on we can get revenue from and what kind of revenue it is. And we can get investment from it who had kind of investors. They are. It it could very well. Be that investors are better than revenue per se. I think with with early customers in particular if you're still sort of. Fumbling towards product market fit. It's really really easy to let early customers sort of steer the direction of the product that is a case in which I think you really want money from investors. Right. So that you have the autonomy to determine the product that you're building where if it's in the marketplace, rather than your early customers who might want to use it for this particular use case, but also have a vested interest in you expanding sort of other use cases that you're not interested in you may be solving the particular customers problem, and you may be compelled to it if they're paying you. But that may not be a problem actually interested in solving in general, and it could cost you months or years, then that's much more expensive than than getting money from investors. Yeah, it's really easy. When people are like people who are not investors are willing to pay you. It's really easy to like want to do whatever it is that they ask right, which I think, you know, we should we should do an IRO please segment at some point on the, you know, the. The customer's always right? I mean, it's just you're just so like delighted that someone wants to use your product and pay you for it that it's it's it's really hard to, you know, say no or sniffer to turn your nose up at like investor serves customer suggestion, but often it's the right thing to do. So I think. In terms of money. Think about it as the cost of money. Like Ma no money is free. It all comes with a cost. And sometimes that cost is dilution of your equity, and sometimes the cost is massive amount of waste the time or effort, and sometimes the cost is being forced to do something that you don't like doing or don't want to do all of those costs and destroy to compare your options. And don't fool yourself into thinking that any one of them is free. They will cost something Jeremy costs you. The least is is the best money for the occasion. Is there specific kind of money that you're more attracted to right now. Well. All turtles at this point just to the point where we're getting some significant revenue. So for the first few years, we had almost no revenue. We did a pretty traditional thing where we're getting money from investors. But that was intentional because we wanted to build out a kind of a machine to make products before we actually started making the products. But even even just saying investors, you know, as many many types of investors as a whole other giant segment about the difference between VC's and banks and strategic investors and all of that stuff. But right now, we're getting to a point where I think for products that we are confident have good product market fit like when you're leading spot then. Yeah, we should have money from customers because this is the product we want to sell so we have to worry less now about, you know, being forced to make the product that we don't want to do, you know, had we tried getting money for spot from customers a year ago. I think it would have been a very different kind of product. I mean, even now right customers have a lot of suggestions. You might say. Yeah. Yeah. I think we should run off you've done segments about how to how to properly ignore customer feedback. That's a good one to do. I feel like there's a whole like a KOMO Ginny, you know, podcast series that we can do about how. Everything you've been told about customers is wrong. And here's where committed say like how much I love spots early customers because they are so invested in there. So like on the right side of history. So yeah, like our customers, maybe maybe that's the really the way to to to wrap it up as if you have an opportunity to get money from investors, you should take money from investors. So that you can have the right first customers that that you are aligned with that you love. Yeah. At investors job is to get you the altitude that you need to kind of get to the right customer. So you can avoid the wrong customers really early on. Sure. Now cipher listen to question. This one comes in from Michael via Twitter, Michael asks is all turtles reference to the probably apocryphal Bertrand. Russell story coat. It's turtles all the way down. I love probably hawker volt probably apocryphal. As some people in this building. What's the name of our next band base for probably apocryphal? But yes, correct. As good job like very few people. Go get that reference. Like almost nobody that correctly attributes it to predators. Russell. Yes. But like the Bertram muscle story is is really like a a probably didn't happen or probably happened in a way that was much different than how it is recounted. But it's really a an accounting of the Orissa tell you metaphysical concept of the prime mover. Right. So this one major force in the universe that kind of creates the entire world. And it's a historical view of the creation of the world rather than the prime mover view of the creation of the world. And the reason that we're interested in that is because we believe that, you know, the idea of like the sort of the myth of the founder in their garage, kind of creating something out of nothing up -solutely, no village around them or not leaning on. Anyone is well bullshit. Most people are standing on the shoulders of the people who came before them, and they're very few things that have ever been created that really just. One person in a turtleneck and their garage. Yeah. I think we we wanna be this platform of platforms. Exactly standing on the shoulders that people before supporting people to come after us and turtles all the way down for us. Thanks, Michael for the question. If you have a question also, you can tweet us at at all turtles co on the Twitter machine or since an Email to Hello at all hyphen, turtles dot com. This podcast is a production of the old turtles worldwide media empire recorded this episode in the world class Donatello studios in San Francisco, California. Thanks to Kellyanne Gabe for joining us on this episode. You have any questions comments suggestions anything else? You wanna talk about send us an Email to Hello at all hyphen turtles dot com movies. Every message everyone who made this possible Gooding Jim Mets door for editing. Marie mcquaid Thomson for producing Chris Ploeg whereas audio expertise, Mike Rivera and Carlos Rockford fourth of his name for artwork. And Matt went for maybe half of Jessica, call your Johnson Quintas yours truly living and the rest of the turtles team. Thanks for listening.

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ConsciousCBUS

People Helping People

30:11 min | 1 year ago

ConsciousCBUS

"Welcome to people helping people the podcast to inspire greater social change in the business world and give you ideas on how to take action. I'm your host a Morris today. I'm talking with Heidi Rumble. It conscious business activists here in Columbus Ohio. She's passionate about reducing waste and making in purchasing decisions that have an impact and she's also has plans for own social enterprise. She's just released her holiday guide to help you. Purchase conscious gifts chiefs and I'm very excited to have her on the podcast. Talk about easy ways that you can make an impact while you do your holiday shopping so without further Ado Heidi welcome on the podcast. Thank you nice to be here. You have quite a social impact mission that you're developing in your life as if we could just start and talk about some of the projects that are you working on absolutely so again start with Conscious Columbus since that's my kind of most recent and most active one I started at conscious Columbus to really connect consumers merge with conscious businesses in Columbus Ohio. So kind of a little bit of everything social enterprise nonprofits Even those small non-classified businesses that actually are giving back with their business in some way or another so started that on social media just an instagram page. Really to get with people meet new people and connect everybody together. I'm always say I'm not necessarily creative. One behind the scenes doing arts and crafts but I am a loudspeaker and I'm very passionate so I can really amplify their voice and their existence So sort of that and just started posting starting to meet people doing a lot of networking with it and then going from there We are slowly transitioning into a full blog and a couple of other little fun things that are coming along this holiday season to really highlight those businesses and those people and individuals doing good in Columbus. Very cool you have big dreams as well with plans to open a coffee shop down the road correct. Yes yes I have a social entreprise of my own Called the solar being cafe and currently were seeking a home in a small village outside of Zanesville Ohio it's an an impoverished village with a lot of social issues going on right now and they're looking to revamp it so we are really looking to hopefully find a home there and be a late in the community and operate again with those same social impact mindset of giving back to the community. You know hiring troubled use hiring people who've been through and really just trying to help the community in every way that we can and be a business that's more than just profit. Cool what kind of experience have you had ed with risk youth so with at risk youth I have done a little bit of volunteering on my own and then I actually worked for the Star House in here in Columbus Ohio for about about a year. I was a youth advocate so I was on the floor with them constantly talking with them helping them And I was very again with my personality ended up being very loud. They're very very optimistic very jumpy but I really loved helping them with their resumes. I really loved helping them. Just sit and talk with them. Even I sometimes would sit with one youth for an hour our and have a really long discussion. And you find out that there's a person behind that homeless youth are at risk youth. You find that there's somebody there. And they have the story. And then in my mind I just start formulating. How can I help them? Here's the story but let me help you so that I would be like we'll all these places are hiring and there's this other resource center and there's this and you should read this book and really just trying to help them in any way that I could which I'm sure a lot of them thought I was crazy but I love doing it. I love that now I talk about. It's our house a lot on the PODCASTS. Because I'm a huge fan but for anybody who does not know. Can you give us a description of the star houses. Yeah so star. House is a drop in center for Homeless Youth for at risk youth in Columbus Ohio It is open twenty four hours a day you can come in. They can get necessary resources to just have a eh basic lifestyle so there showers laundry. There's clothing there's things like toothbrush toothpaste all those kind of day-to-day items. That we all sometimes take for granted they can go in and receive counseling. And then there's a youth advocate such as what I was that they can discuss with oftentimes are there to help. Always there to help. It often times they will help them with their resumes. Such as I did or help them with the basic skills of like. Hey let's figure out how to go online and find jobs. Let's figure out how to cook something So it's just a really all encompassing place and kind of kind of a home for a lot of them in a way because because they don't have one so it's a place for them to stop and kind of reset and rest and and then be ready to go back now. I have a lot of misconceptions when when I first went to the Star House. I'm just curious from your point like what you learned about. The people that came in was different from people might expect. Yeah I think the biggest biggest thing that I really learned was that there are people behind that idea of a homeless youth and we often don't think about homeless people being youth sir. How serves the ages up to twenty five years old so their under twenty five years old making me in there and a lot lot of times? They have kids themselves so then. It's not only this single youth that you're serving by their our youth beneath that that are also being impacted by this so I think that it was really the realization tonight. They're all humans and they'll have their own story and they all have something somewhere in their life and they can pinpoint you know. This is exactly what happened in a lot of times. They're like I don't know what happened. I'm just here and I know it and And I myself have been in a position where I have been bouncing between people's couches or you're just not having a solid place to live. I had a car thankfully in half my hanging in my car but so I had just a little bit of an idea of how it can be to be all right. Let's find somewhere to go. Let's make sure we've got this leads. You know go call my siblings call family members call my friends and be like hey. Can I stay here tonight. Which is definitely a lot better than a lot of them had but it was Really just eye opening to meet a lot of them and then here about you know. Where did you sleep last night? Okay and where that was and it's like Oh my gosh is really shoe and real people. Here they really need our help. That's always surprised me like when we go in for our work work programme with wild. Tiger ts Everybody is really different. And I'm always amazed that people are very articulate about their situation. They typically know l. what they're going through but from one person to the next like what they struggle with varies a lot and and so it's really working with people one on one. They're not that different from you. Know how how Iowa when I was twenty you know this kind of trying to figure things out and complicated. They're betsy and for them. It's just more complicated and messy. I think the big thing that I realized is that I've had my struggles but I've always had someone there. I thought family I community. I've had friends a lot of them. You know they don't have family or their family has turned on them and all the friends in the same situation as them so star house can kind of be that buffer that bouncer for them. It's like hey you can come here and you can talk with other people. We can also talk with people they had counselors and stuff on staff so I think that was another thing too is realizing like even if I I lost everything I had today like. I have people there that are going to help me. And they didn't and they don't often and that's that's the kind of the harsh about it. That's really rough part about it. It is really tough. No I definitely developed a huge appreciation for everything. My parents did when I was growing. I don't think I realized it at the time until he. Yeah until much until you realize that. Hey when people don't have this this is what you know. They're facing has working at the Star House shaped a bit. What you WANNA do in your own career? It has a little bit so I have always been a little bit of I. Guess an oddball when it comes to to my passions and wanting to help people I yes I did very young age I really loved writing and I really loved drawing maps maps and images and graphics and things like that And I just started kind of formulating all these ideas. How to help people? When I was older and a lot of times it had something having to do with you know? I'm going to build the community. I'm GonNa Build House for people I'm going to have a place. People can come and stay. Do all this really fun stuff. And of course I was young at the time nine ten eleven years old. They can't really do a whole lot at that age In so from there on how. It's just been a simply a matter of. How can I get this final goal? Where am helping people in what I do? And I've taken a lot of different paths to get there and start houses definitely one of those where it gave me insight on what they were doing themselves nonprofits in Columbus just just meeting other like minded people and working in a place where other people have similar mindsets of. We want to help people and that's why we're here so it's definitely a big part of. It's very long journey of getting to a place where day in and day out. I am just simply living to help other people and make an improvement on where I'm at in my community and my world and so on and so forth and I it seems like you've dug really deep into the community in Columbus and you have a really good understanding standing of some of the things that are going on here and I was just wondering if I could pick your brain on what you've seen are some of the big problems that are outstanding People could jump in and address. Yeah definitely definitely so one of the biggest problems I think the automatically comes to my mind when I think of Columbus or any really big city is trash rush and I think that everybody kind of has that similar mindset If you go to any festival and he gets the other and gathering even on the street and stuff and the trash cans they're just overflowing with trash and I think there was one of the first things that I started doing when I kind of move towards his conscious lifestyle is realizing that. Hey I don't have to make as much trash as as I am So simple quick changes that I made. were no more grocery bags using reasonable straws bringing my own containers when possible Bulk Food shopping thing. That can be a hassle but it is very rewarding and the end and if you get your system up and running than it really works out for you Chopping Book Food Shopping. So uh-huh buying simple things like oatmeal popcorn grains nuts and seeds like your dry staples you can purchase in bulk. Unusually cold foods fresh. thyme there's a couple of smaller ones Incumbents that also offer spices and bulk You know even salt. I've seen him book before which is really cool to think about that. You can get that much in bulk But that eliminates a lot of the plastic and a Lotta trash and then simply just bringing your own cup to is a huge thing. That's that's what. I'm a huge advocate for. It's again super easy to do. And a creates a three or four or five less pieces of trash. They're going to be thrown away if you think about the straw draw the lid the COP. Sometimes there's asleep sometimes. There's you know you get a Napkin with the or if you put sugar in your coffee all that extra trash that can be eliminated. That's that's one of the most Big forward basing problems. I think that just day in day out everybody can contribute to and it doesn't cost a whole lot it doesn't make it's not as huge hassle. It's just just a simple bringing your own cup with you somewhere really cool So that's one of the biggest ones. I think that my next one not necessarily addresses specific problem but I think the entire idea that several things that you would buy on a daily basis or you would do. Do you know social activities. You can do them in a way that you're impacting others positively and that's kind of where conscious Columbus comes into play with you you know. Hey you wanna go for a cup of coffee with a friend. Here are five socially-conscious coffee shops in Columbus Ohio. That you can do that at and Your Cup of coffee in your time with if your friend is going to have this much greater impact than it would if you just went to McDonalds or to Martin's so places like the Roosevelt Coffeehouse House bottoms up coffee There are a couple even outside of Columbus That also have positive impacts but we the always posted on our page of course but even if you just google them or if you look in you know social ventures Just asking too when you do get to a place you know asking asking. Hey do you guys do anything. Socially conscious do you guys have an impact anyhow in just making your your day to day life and your activities have a bigger a greater raider impacts crosses the mind for a lot of people have. Hey when I go out I can find out if the companies I'm doing business with are are doing good in the community So that's very interesting. Just ask and say. Hey what are you doing and yeah because I think when people are doing something they looked to talk about it. Yes definitely yeah definitely and I will say if you ask them and they're not doing anything please point them in our direction and we will help them do something cool. We love that we love helping people be more conscious and especially businesses and working with them and everybody just having a greater impact so if a business came to you and they were like. Hey we wanna make a better impact tenor Jenner community. What what what type of work would you do with them? So it'd be several different avenues. Obviously there's really simple once again going back to trash Asia and less waste. That's just always. The simplest swap people can make So I the first thing that I would honestly encourage for instance. We'll use the coffee shop example since we've been talking coffee shops A lot of times in Columbus. It's not as big of an issue but elsewhere they offer mugs. They will offer you know in house equipment to use if you're sitting there I know starbucks is kind of a fight them on that. Sometimes is you know I know I just wanted them up. I don't WanNa pay anything So you you know. Making small swaps like that would always be encouraged. Hopefully ideally maybe pairing them up with nonprofits could be another opportunity. They're saying hey whether hi there. It's once a month. Your whole team goes in volunteers. Or you donate a certain percentage of your profits to them or you even just have food driver diaper driver clothing dry for them. There's so many different small opportunities that really don't cost anyone anything in the long run because people typically already have those things there But just kind of making that stands in standing up and making that impact and pushing things further Um Soobee a little bit of both of those and then obviously the more if they have specific ideas this we'd love to chat specific ideas and kind of go further into that aspect as needed score. Because I think quite often one of the big barriers that people have is they just don't know what's possible right so you know just sitting down and saying. Hey here's what you can do and if it doesn't cost you money in it. It's something better than what they're doing doing. People will generally do it unless it's a lot of effort or really complicated because people do want of a better communities living in so definitely. I think when you make that easy for people and find out exactly what they can do they make that choice. Yeah Tall Yup. And that's what we love to try to make it easy. Both for the consumer and the businesses of just connecting them together and making sure that everybody knows that they have that option and that that choice of having their purchase at a greater impact. Now I'd love to move on and talk a little bit about some of the great things that you've seen in Columbus what people people are doing either productwise or our mission lies because he took a lot of stuff in. Yes I do. I love exploring learn. Columbus Encompasses a great place to find those socially-conscious enterprises businesses and individuals in general Some of the biggest just one. I think that I constantly going back to Roosevelt Coffee House. Of Course Milo bottoms up coffee house. There's a lot of even smaller. You're not smaller. But I guess different businesses that are also having greater impact Cova Co working is a new one co working space. They have a really positive impact in what they're doing. Um and they're really have a program down the road that will be focusing on social enterprises and helping them get up and running and continuing the work that they're doing so it's kind of a cool idea that it's your heard working with a business. Whose further working with more businesses? Who have all those long term impact on everything And it's really cool to think about that. There's other additional resources. Well well I'm conscious. Capitalism is one. I recently went to an event of theirs and got to learn about what they're doing that to me again like minded people doing over there so conscious. Capitalism them is focusing on kind of similar to what we're doing but on a larger scale they really focus on businesses that operate with conscious means so again. Go back to that idea that you can operate or you can operate and have a greater impact in the cool part about them that they pointed out a lot of really big companies. That we're doing this at. I didn't even know about Ben and Jerry was one of them but it was just really cool to hear like hey. They're socially conscious I had no idea by. A bunch of Benadryl various cream. Yeah and and they don't. I don't think that they really brag about it. Which is fine but I definitely didn't know and actually that's very interesting too because they they did a lot of work? There was a bakery called the greystone bakery which had a model of hiring people will who had barriers to entry so a lot of people have been incarcerated or head issues with drugs and originally they Ben and Jerry's bought Brownies from them to sell along with her ice cream. But when they received the boundaries they're all clumped together And there there's no way for them to separate and actually sell them. And that's how the double Brownie chocolate ice about. What are we going to do with these bounds? They put them in there and I think they've been working percents. That's so cool. When Jodi Lhasa's looking for for a model of a company that he could start up he modeled hot chicken take over at least Justin Bakery so it's very interesting how successful social enterprises inspire other social entreprises? Yes yes it definitely is. I mean I'm inspired by all of them to be honest so I love. I love taking notes and I've had the opportunity to talk with the owners of a couple of them too and kind of just take notes about you. Know How I'm going to do my own some day okay and get to learn from there But yeah bakeries. He made me think about that. There's a lot of socially-conscious bakeries in the area. I think Freedom Kamala car is one of them that socially conscious and then for the hiring clean turn does that third way cafe does that I believe A couple of other organizations around around them there's so many so many businesses in Columbus and once you start to look you kinda feel like sometimes you hit the Jackpot. 'cause you find one and then you find five fantastic attack like I have to go visit all of these as soon as possible and so it's really cool to to really get to explore them and find out what they're doing that's cool now for the holidays you've put together a guide for conscious shopping. Yes correct so he'd conscious Holiday Guide is a guide. kind of your one stop shop for learning about conscious businesses in the area and giving you the opportunity to patronize them. I'm for your holiday shopping. Our focus is a little bit more small-scale with it there's a lot of really small businesses in the area that are doing good but aren't you know as is big as some of the other. You know huge companies I will say eleven. Candle Co isn't it and they're pretty big company. We've got a lot of smaller ones of A couple of zero waist one such as re-use revolution full circle so a couple really cool even smaller scale businesses. That not only. Are you supporting a good cause but you are supporting. Somebody is small little dream that they're working on in their kitchen they're working on in their studio And trying to help them you know take it a little bit further over. Can you tell me a little bit. About what some of these companies are doing yes so eleven. Candle Co is a candle company. They fight human trafficking with their operations. which is awesome They I have several other candles. I Love Them. Yes I do. Love their candidate candles. When I'm editing? The podcast Yeah Yeah. There's a couple of different conscious candle companies he's in Columbus but they all kind of have their own thing which is really cool that way. They're not competing really against each other. They're kind of with each other on it A couple of the other ones that we have are the ice cream. One for instance. They do Vegan ice cream and they have less waste operations and you can currently purchase coaches their items I think out of the Bexley market which is cool because they're still pretty new full circle and we're used Lucien are both them all about zero waste or less with lifestyle so they provide products. They provide resources that help. You eliminate the trash in single use plastic in your life so toothbrushes Reasonable face towels or Keratin pads different. Things like that. I've seen a lot more of these companies popping up that are about upcycle there or or kind of products being reused What do you see happening in that space because that seems like something that's starting to almost exploded in a new way? Yeah so with the idea that people are taking something that some people will call trash and turning them into products or items I think that that is definitely growing. I think that it goes along side of the really. Oh you re reduce reuse recycle. which is you right now? You know people are really getting on that which is awesome of not only creating less ways by purchasing secondhand. I know that this kind of the original eco-friendly environmentally friendly conscious shopping. That people did that. We didn't even really think about. I grew up shopping secondhand and I didn't really realize allies impacted actually had until way later in life But I definitely see that an hope let that area grows. I hope that we see more business like that. I know that there's a lot of jewelry. Businesses seem to be huge right now with that of taking. You know either Ole jewelry that would have been thrown away or recycled metal recycled anything like that and reforming coming into this awesome jewelry. That people get to US And then I also see a little bit Sometimes scandal companies will do it sometimes Even if it's just not their whole product but it's a small aspect of their product the containers that they make the candles in or the specific part of what they're doing. You know. Hey this was recycled. This was reused this which is awesome. I think quite often people don't realize that even with recycled goods like there's a huge energy costs to taking the material L. processing it and getting it ready to be reformed so when companies actually take consider essentially trash and reuse them. One A lot of energy that goes into that manufacturing goes away because you re using it. You're not recreating products cuts down on a lot of waste east. So what you get with. These kind of upside cycle products is something which is saving you from buying something else and clogging up the manufacturing system with waste. Yeah definitely getting more life out of the stuff that we already have. Yeah definitely that's cool. So what's your vision for Consciously bus over the next couple of years yes so the biggest thing that we obviously want to stand for ongoing is businesses just doing good and small businesses doing good And again connecting those consumers to those businesses connecting those businesses to each other down the road. I think that we will do a little bit more consulting businesses a little bit more hands on with them and sharing Ideas again like we discussed earlier about how they can do. Better And again mm simple methods. It's nothing that's going to be breaking the bank or this big huge turnaround or anything like that And then of course we would love to do our blog and possibly down the road open somewhat of a conscious market where people can continuously come to the website and there's a spot on there with specific businesses in the area. That are doing good. So when they're thinking. Oh Hey I wanNA shop for my friend to super socially conscious they can help on our website go to the market page and everything would there and then they can pick their gift from there because right now for me. I am purchasing Christmas gifts for people but I luckily have my pool of resources right now but bye. I love to keep everything socially conscious and if I didn't have conscious Columbus I would be googling day in day out conscious business near me how to do conscious. Christmas is all that kind of fun stuff off. So I'm trying to kind of ease that for people and not only that but I'm also trying to turn around and make it look like. Hey this is the way to go like you. Don't need to purchase all this stuff from Walmart or Amazon. Even though I love Amazon you compared from you can get a candle. That is socially conscious you can get a zero waste kit that socially conscious inches. You can get clothing. You can get jewelry you can get anything socially conscious Even just gift cards to coffee. Shops bakeries or restaurants in general there's so many farm-to-table able restaurants in Columbus different places. There's yeah there's it's a growing community I would say a couple a couple of popped up here now and in you know there's more but they are difficult to find. It's usually when I'm there already eating. I discover it versus me googling for an hour farm-to-table restaurants near me 'cause that doesn't always work out but usually Just hearing about them or meeting people and also played it as one of them that I recently got to try skill. Gila is another one. That's really good. Yeah they're really cool and usually again. They're supporting local farmers. There a lot of organic products there A lot of their alcohol if they have the bar is locally sourced have a lot of ideas in mind four conscious Columbus and one of them is a conscious or sustainable restaurant. Spread hopefully down the road So we'll we'll keep you in the loop on that if we get that up and running in posted on instagram and hopefully our blog so one. What's the best way for people to find you? The best way right now is to get on instagram and search conscious CIBA's that is our handle That's the way to find us right. Now follow us on instagram. Or we are on facebook as well We'll post on both of those when it is live and give you that active linked to go to facebook facebook it would be just conscious Columbus spot out. I believe I think our short name is consciously bus on there as well so if people are interested in their conscious gift guide they can find that on on your your website which we will put in the show notes and please go on. Check that out and hopefully get inspired with some cool ideas which you've never heard of That will make a huge difference just for and local businesses here in the community. But you'll also be making an impact with the gifts that you do and quite often. These guys are very call their different Their unique because they're made by it local artisans so yeah I see some of the best. And then if you're looking for further resources also please check out the marketplace on the social ventures website website They list a hundred social entrepreneurs here in Columbus They're not all product-based. They have different businesses. But it's a great A directory to go to just to see what is available here in Columbus for companies that are specifically designed around making a social impact. What other words of wisdom behalf create less waste shop social enterprises than small businesses? Doing good and I think the biggest thing would it really comes down onto is just thinking about your purchases just kind of realizing respecting what went into that and what who may have you know. Oh possibly suffered because of it or what may have possibly suffered because of it. I think that that's really the biggest thing that it comes down to is purchasing clothing. And you just think like you see the Tagore Gore was made and you just know like this. This is not good. This is not made ethically and so. That's a big deal for me so I try to think about my purchases before making them you know. Do I need this. Is it necessary or you know. Does it have a purpose and then thinking further than that you know who is impacted by this and how how and making sure that it was a positive impact in not a negative impact. I think that's that's really what it comes down to. I think once we start our heads around that mindset that will all transition towards making purchases that have greater impact instead of just buying what's convenient or quick or easy or doing it without thinking twice about Besta thank you so much for coming out and talking to you today and spreading some ideas of what's going on here in Columbus. Thanks for having me. Thanks the effort that Heidi puts into the purchases that she makes by checking out the company's product she engages with. That's great inspiration for what we all. Oh can do and if you don't have the time to search for the stuff on your own followers on instagram or facebook conscious CIBA's to get great recommendations. Actually check out her hand consciously see bus to get the link to the conscious holiday shopping. Guide that you can make more of an impact with your gifts that you buy this season as always can find out more resources on the show notes on people helping people dot world. Thank you so much for listening and until next time cheers.

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Chatroom 11: When Technology Meets Ayurveda

Scrolls & Leaves

10:31 min | Last month

Chatroom 11: When Technology Meets Ayurveda

"New ooh this is a song from the nineteen. Sixty nine bengali. Movie out again and kit and the songwriter and composer is india's most love artists of modern times rabindranath tagore. The movie tells the story of a clash between two medical professionals. One is an allopathic doctor. The other of idea or ira via the practitioner. The film based on one thousand nine hundred eighty three novel by bengali author tara shankar bandopadhyay but the movie cutout lord of details nuance to present an unrealistic picture of the traditional medicine versus western medicine clash bob of the reason why we get these kind of weirdly dichotomies stories because we've just got a market that lap up this kind of clash between pure tradition and some kind of evil exotic dante coming from the outside. Take it from someone who's not only read the book and watch the movie but research characters and the real life. Inspirations i'm project behari mukherjee. I'm an associate professor at the university of pennsylvania. I teach in a department called history and sociology of science. I'm also particularly interested in how medical knowledge changes over time but also how different medical knowledge traditions interact with each other throughout history. medicine has always changed evolved. sometimes it's influences from the medical systems. Sometimes from other cultures in this episode project is going to tell us about the influence of technology on irbid. it's a little window into the transformation of india's indigenous medical system beginning in the eighteen sixties. This chat room eleven. Your bonus episode of scrolls and leaves. I'm mary rose. Abraham and guide three denton and we have a small request for an independently. Funded podcast if you like a work. Please consider donating every little bit helps us continue telling stories from the margins of history signs in cultures. You can find details on. Our website scrolls and leads dot com slash support. And of course you have feedback. Please do let us know thank you. Let's go back to that. So-called epic clash between indian traditional medicine and western medicine in the second half of the nineteenth century in reality. It was really anything but when it came to treatment the metaphor that i like using is braiding. I feel that if you think of the systems not as kind of homogenous essences that are kind of facing off against other but if you think of them as kind of spools of threads that they have lots of individual diverse things within them some of which don't line up with each other even within those so-called traditions and then what happens is that particular places taken a actors be day indian practitioners off western medicine or recognition of some version of indigenous medicine. Day creatively full strings from both sides and mix them together. Braid them together to create a repertoire of practice that works for them and for their patients. Portraits says that part of the braiding process is incorporating small technologies into ira- veda. The help of ideas reimagined the human body and changed the way they diagnosed and treated patients. So what does he mean. By small technology one is the microscope. And then there's the pocket watch and the thermometer if you see photographs from the late nineteenth century every man middle class in above is wearing a jacket with a gold chain attached and hanging from that chain will be a pocket watch. That doesn't strike us as being a medical technology but it is one because one of the most iconic things about the is else diagnosis so diagnosing people by what in sanskrit ninety picture now not anybody a gets translated from the ranking century as bounce because they see that western doctors are doing it as well however the western wall speaking and the various versions of salvation naughty picture very very different things as is like people feel for some kind of battle patient at the wrist in many different healing traditions. Western pulse is in the nineteenth century largely a quantitative thing. You measured the number of beats and that is connected to a theory of circulation so it's connected back to like. Is your heart beating writer. not so. you'll see that when they take the pulse. They keep watching their watch their wristwatch because they want. Count the number of seats in a minute when vitamin takes your pulse. He's usually using three different fingers and he is looking for other stuff so the three fingers are placed in different points on the wrist. And what they're looking for is often expressed very visually. So you will have things like the pulse. Felt like a frog jumping other pulse. Felt like the gate of a dea. The bows felt like a marsh. Snipe flying so you get these very visual metaphors of how they express it so. It's a qualitative pulse. It's not about counting. There is no sign of what i'd like to call hydraulic system in iowa. Which is this model that western anatomy has basically the hottest bump and the whole body is water circulation system. And that's the core of what you're getting from the pulse. Die your bathing or larger sense critic. Physicians are getting something very different some of them even at times almost veered into mystic thing so there was a whole aspect of pulse. Taking that was that was to do with predicting so badly. The really virtuoso naughty budig shock could tell you like exactly when you were going to die even if that was twenty years later. So it's not exactly the same thing this western butts and yet what happens is that because these are also now carrying pocket watches and they see pocket watches. Used to impulse taking data. Do start thinking of. How does this data this quantitative data. Which obviously you can get by using the watch. How does that shift our ideas of the body so they now have a very non hydraulic image of the body but because they have watches they start getting a kind of more quantitative data on the pulses well and so there are many creative efforts to kind of bread together this quantitative data and a qualitative data about pol switches kind of associated with older sense critic ideas of what the body is how it works. It's the first one thermometer that used mercury was invented in seventeen fourteen that more than medical moment that we use these days it was invented in eighteen. Sixty six by an english doctor named sir thomas albert. It was six inches long and it could read a person's temperature in about five minutes for mama's brought to india from the very late eighteenth century but not as medical instruments but as meteorological instruments a tool monitor weather changes and then gradually from the middle of the nineteenth century that Medical used to grow which is kind of the time when it starts to grow in europe is well and again these become something that it changes what we understand by fever. Fever was basically in most ironic texts sort of precolonial medical tax. That we have fever would be the very first chapter. And it's often the most important and largest chapter because so many things get classified as fever that today we would give different names. We would see fever as only being maybe a symptom of some other disease but they classified fever bites so fever is a huge got good but how fever is understood varies a lot. There is an idea that heat is involved with fever. But it's not clear what this heat means. Does it mean the mind. Getting heated up so that you will start to babble and hallucinate. Does it mean you feel warm. You're the patient. You're actually called your shivering. It might be somebody else who touches your forehead and finds it warm temperature is not this quantifiable thing which we can just stick them in your mouth and then read a number of of so that starts to happen and that's another thing that creates a much narrower range of what body heat means body heat is a very important concept in any kind of physiology in the nineteenth century and it's not bat central in medicine till the middle of the nineteenth century and what is also important. Is that even when heat is mentioned. What is mentioned by age of a top is different and that it's much more very all of that gets narrowed once it becomes popular to use the moments. What also happens in is that so much of medicine even today does not depend on doctor per se but on the kind of people who provide the kind of care to the patient during conveyance nurses once you're in hospitals nurses very important but before people started to go to hospitals friends and family. Who usually cared for you at home or very important of the kind of things they did now. Once the monitor becomes important. So much of that. Work get reorganized around constantly checking the temperature and monitoring this moment trick idea of heat. So that's again something that has like huge repercussions not just for the epistemology of medicine but also the sociology of how actual care is done for people who fall ill. And that's all organized around this little. You were listening to purge mukherjee on chatroom. Eleven on scrolls and leaves for episode notes. Visits rosen leaves dot com slash chat room eleven. We'll be back in two weeks.

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118  Say It With Me

Miss Information: A Trivia Podcast

51:18 min | 1 year ago

118 Say It With Me

"Hello and welcome to say Frisia Trivia podcast for the business the business the business out of my kids I were doing eating mucus or sputum fever night sweats and weight loss it was most often called consumption because of this because you waste away significant nail clubbing may also occur which is not when your nails leave your hands and go out to treks they actually nail clubbing is when you're it's called extra pulmonary or outside the lungs TB it occurs when it develops outside the lungs although extra pulmonary TB may coexist with pulmonary longtime coming. I'm actually surprised that we haven't done it yet so my topic today say so before I begin I wanNA give quick out to the excellent podcast saw bones starring Justin an doctor Sidney mcelroy who talks about that fact anyway so my topic tonight today whatever time you're listening to this on Tober it's follows in my essay so to burqas as we know it's an infectious disease it's usually caused by mycobacterium ails get like flat and wide and I you know how on Wikipedia and now you can hover over like a link and it brings up like the first paragraph well when you hover people listen to podcasts like at a different speed oh I those people and I'm sorry to people who listen to us at like two times or whatever with me is too key lotion you know what I'll keep I'll take it it's Tiburcio Asus road into the pulmonary artery or Rasmussen's aneurysm resulting in massive bleeding so you have a an aneurysm that develop not be so you can have it in the Lamin going and other places as well so the classic symptoms of an active TB are a chronic cough with blood contain like the wild things about medical history and medicines and diseases and all sorts of things it's great it's so funny Sydney didn't episode on Turkey Las Twenty Four Yes but I think yeah if you want to know more about the stuff please I I highly recommend going to listen to that saw bones episode it's very good eighteen I listened to it it's good we have a little bit of the same information like a little bit of overlapping because hey we're talking the same disease it's also the one where she announces she's pregnant sweep so anyway my episode tuberculosis is if a tuberculosis infection does become active is most commonly involves the lungs and about ninety percent of cases cases symptoms may include chest pain the country and now it's late and now it's a now it's late so don't worry everyone this will not be a long one you know it's funny is like have symptoms in which case it is known as latent tuberculosis about ten percent of Leighton infections progress to active disease which left untreated kills about half of those affected notable extra pulmonary infection sites include the pleura which is the fluid filled lining of the lungs the central nervous system which is it's in the blood vessels inside your lungs dear. PS This episode may make you very aware of your lungs they are collectively known as extra pulmonary tuberculosis and this occurs more commonly in people with weakened immune system in young children so odds are if you catch TB you're just GonNa get it sure also you can get it in the genital urinary system called how it's called within if we're talking really fast and then they listen to us at two times speed like what the heck does that sound like I don't even WanNa know what I wanNA remain ignorant ignorant over nail clubbing it also includes a picture and I almost screamed aloud it's disgusting it's just kind of like really surprising because like nails that are like fingernails drip like drain way quick so in fifteen to twenty percent of active cases the infection spreads outside the lungs causing other kinds of TB closys or mt be bacteria to burke generally affects the lungs but can also affect other parts of the body genital tuberculosis how common is that a not super common I mean it happens mostly in people with weakened immune systems so and the reason being is because it's probably because it's just that's what gets the air more often or poor lymph drainage within the upper lungs so like your lymph doesn't take your vitamin C. Everybody we probably already have it in your lungs if you get it in those other places right yeah I mean usually it's like a co morbidity so the main cause of TB is as I mentioned before the mycobacterium tuberculosis it is a small aerobic non Motel Bacillus family slow rate compared to other bacteria which usually divide in less than an hour so this is notable because when you're trying to diagnose TB which is already difficult a prolonged cough producing sputum about twenty five percent of people may not have any symptoms at all and occasionally people may cough up blood and small amounts and in very rare cases the infection may what like a curriculum was everywhere when you got it was every everywhere so yeah I mean kings and Queens died of scruffy La to do because it tends to look like a lot of other diseases especially if it's extra pro pulmonary right it takes longer to grow the bacteria from a sample than you would from other bacterial infections of extra pulmonary cases so if you get it outside the lungs and it's elsewhere it there's a good chance that might spread all over your body and then that kills you miliary tuberculosis which basically is like a cancer metastasized throughout the body you get everywhere so miliary TB currently makes up about ten percent so the difficult culture process for the slow growing organism can take two to six weeks for blood or sputum cultures so for that reason treatment is often begun before cultures are confirmed like you start getting medication for tuberculosis before it's even confirmed because it takes so long to diagnose for sure zero you can you like your spine it's crazy so a potentially more serious widespread form of TB is called disseminated curricula also known as like eight times the size of a fingernail it's out of control anyway yeah it's bad many TB infections do not Tequila may become a chronic illness and caused extensive scarring in the upper lobes of the lungs and the upper lung lobes are most frequently affected by Turkey closys than the lower run ones the good old lungs and you're not gonna get it elsewhere it is a co so okay oh also in those with HIV this occurs more than fifty percent of cases Eh hosts I'm Laurie and Julia and we're coming to you at micro machines pays because here we are recording a lot of episodes all at once because Lawrence going on vacation and percent develop active disease during their lifetimes in contrast thirty percent of those co infected with HIV develop the active disease so if you are the kings had yet like a royal it was like a royal illness or something yeah it was a it was it was like immuno-deficient people although prevalence may be significantly underestimated so it's they think it's rare but might not be it's crazy so so the Bricusse as complex includes four other not be causing mycobacterium okay it is m bovis circulates meningitis the lymphatic system which is called Scruff Ula of the neck where you scrap ula is to burke yellow Ross gather so for example prisons homeless shelters medically underprivileged and resource poor communities high risk ethnic minorities children in close contact knbr factors make people more susceptible to infections the most important risk factor globally as HIV thirteen percent of all people with TB are infected by the HIV virus allow this is a particular problem in sub Saharan Africa whose rates of HIV or high and if people without HIV who are infected with tuberculosis about five to ten curriculum where it's like you get like open waiters Guido phrase all over your neck because your lymph system is like swollen and draining lakes the high risk category patients and healthcare providers serving all of these people so another risk factor is chronic lung disease he's lead it's insanity that's crazy that's foolishness it's crazy you really do you really want to have people talk to you at like an incredible rate of speed so already immune deficient YEP TB is a higher risk our you yep to Bricusse is closely linked to both overcrowding and malnutrition canham m bovis was once a common cause of tuberculosis but the introduction of pasteurized milk has almost completely eliminated this as a public the high lipid content of this pathogen it's very like fatty accounts for many of its unique clinical characteristics it divides every sixteen to twenty hours which isn't next so silicosis is a lung disease was happens to your lungs when you inhale silica dust and it's what's known as an occupational lung disease okay like me Chen making it one of the principal diseases of poverty those at high risk thus include people who inject illicit drugs inhabitants and employees of locales where vulnerable people also rick risk factors in contracting TB including some treatments for auto immune disorders and some steroids. Also apparently there's some evidence of genetic susceptibility the problem in developed countries because it was found in milk of Otis bogus so vine yep m Kennedy is rare and seems to be limited to the Horn of Africa although voiced the risk of not be compared to nonsmokers other diseases include alcoholism and diabetes which gives you a threefold increase certain medications arse yeah only not as fun as those so the only available vaccine as of two thousand eleven so you have like an allergic reaction site and that's how they think they know like Mo you probably have to be I remember like my mom has a thing on her arm and is called the Bacillus Count Garin or the BCG vaccine in children it decreases the risk of getting the infection by twenty percent and the risk of infection turning into an they keep it going a trade podcast for ladies jets Likud Julia it's sticking to to a few cases have been seen in African emigrants how's that spelled Canetti c. a. n. e. Ti Canetti. It's like an Italian million yeah sounds like a delicious Italian dish we took culture burkey Lewis you gotta get into a sanatorium you can also get it by the way in your bones joints it's called between the layers of your skin makes a little bubble and so the person who has been exposed to the bacteria is expected to mount an immune response in the skin containing the bacterial proteins I'm sure people of other effet generation new to that's just like a round circle that's made of a bunch of needles and that was like from her TB did with more than ninety percent of all children being vaccinated and the immunity it induces decreases after about ten years so does like where off after a while you need to get a booster every ten years if you're but there hasn't been any proof 'cause yeah so away too quickly screen people at high risk for TV is called the Manto tuberculin active disease by nearly sixty percent so it's the most effective vaccine we have so far it has also the most widely used vaccine world emergence of multiple drug resistant to burke yellow sus more on that later so the World Health Organization the bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the US risk okay yeah part of the reasoning against the use of the vaccine is that it makes the Tuberculin skin test falsely positive reducing the tests usefulness as a screening tool ester whatever yeah it was just like a boop like a bunch of them though like one of those one of those pens that has twenty different colors yeah only with HIV So many resource poor places as of two thousand eleven have access to only sputum microscopes microscopy and India has the highest happens at the same time Majid thinking you've uti just like going to the doctor and they're like actually we took your so the subspecies of mycobacterium tuberculosis thankfully is rarely present in wild animals an effort to eradicate bovine tuberculosis caused by selenium like Mesothelioma exactly this increases the risk of acquiring tb about thirty fold Those who smoke cigarettes have have nearly yeah so because the disease can spread through the air to infect both humans and other animals it is a public health concern affecting circuses and zoos yeah it's bad zoonosis yeah so like some humans coughed near an elephant and the elephants were like but there are also a number of scenes in development right now since two thousand eleven but so far has just been BCG the World Health Organization men are subsidizing a fast acting diagnostic tuberculosis test for use in low and middle income countries as of two thousand twelve in addition to being fast act it is not Canetti when you come back though Joe it's bacteria it's terrible micro ties also rare and has seen almost only million lives between its launch and two thousand fifteen a number of targets they were not achieved by two thousand fifteen mostly due to the increase in HIV associated tuberculosis and acted MTA gives evidence of disease in the remains of Bison in Wyoming data to around seventeen thousand years ago however undeclared TB as a global health emergency in nineteen ninety-three and in two thousand six the STOP TB partnership developed a global plan to stop tuberculosis that aimed to save fourteen much more fun remember history it's not the future so Tequila has existed since antiquity the oldest unambiguously appears to be widespread among captive elephants in the US it is believed that the animals originally acquired the disease from humans which is a process called river as total number of TB cases worldwide in two thousand ten in part due to poor disease management within the private and public health care sector skin test where a medical professional will inject small amount of tuberculosis which is like a dog the dead virus or dead bacteria excuse me introduce mentally which characterized by persistent cough abnormal appearance fever a weakened fast pulse chest obstructions and shortness of breath before the industrial revolution focused. I think that we don't get to Berko sending Oh no we totally do yeah so history of tuberculosis let's just dive right in domestication as researchers previously believed both strains of the tuberculosis bacteria share a common ancestor which could have infected humans even before the Neolithic Revolution even if researchers theorize that humans I acquired it in Africa about five thousand years ago there is evidence that the first two bricusse infection happened about nine thousand years ago Emma for Canham 'em Canetti and M. Micro Tie so am African is not widespread but significant cause of tuberculosis in parts of Africa Africa Herbeck Tyrian Bovis from the cattle and deer herds of New Zealand have been relatively successful efforts in Great Britain have been less successful as two thousand fifteen to Berkeley it spread to other humans along trade routes and it also spread to domesticated animals in Africa such as goats and cows seals and sea lions that bread on African beaches are believed to have acquired scholars think that to regulate was like the first disease that man has ever encountered were yeah which is not proven obviously but it's a theory avenue DNA study of tuberculosis genome reconstructed from remains in southern Peru suggests that human tuberculosis is less than six thousand years old so they're like it's not that old isn't that so Buki I mean it's appropriate yeah right it's perfect for this week happy Halloween everybody lucky from eighteen thirty nine onwards brought a number of people with tuberculosis into the cave in the hopes of curing the disease with the constant temperature and purity of the cave bear did Berkeley's as a pathology sixteen eighty nine due to the variety of symptoms TB was not identified as a single disease until the eighteen twenty S J whether Turkey losses originated in bovines than transferred to humans or whether both bovine and human debris closest diverged from a common ancestor remains unclear Some skeletal remains show some prehistoric humans as far back as four thousand B C had TB and researchers have found to procure decay in the spines of Egyptian mummies dating from of the seals so the first reference to debris los in non European civilization is found in the Veda which is the ancient religious texts of India the oldest so comparison of the genes of 'em Turkey losses complex in humans to MTC in animals suggest humans did not acquire it from animals during animal the disease the other infected members would lose their health slowly people believed this was caused by the original person with TB draining the life from the other family members conduct does not condone anyone contracting or dying from tuberculosis as much as we joke about it we would never wish that on any of our listeners or anyone else the disease and carried it across the Atlantic to South America young hunters would have been the first humans to contract the disease there because they would have eaten the flesh John Evelyn the early modern British writer and playwright wrote a treatise called Fumi Fu Guillaume Fumi Fujian Oh the air away and he also advised planting huge swabs of of floral meadows of them the what's known as the rig Veda which is about from about fifteen hundred BC calls the disease yuks Ma and the Tarver Veda calls it the Balazs attributed to the mythical yellow empire describes a disease believed to be tuberculosis called Tzu Lao Bang which is translated as weak consumptive disease. It's such a cool thing I learned this in my early modern class hi Dr Walkling and he proposed that there would be windmills that would like own London to like soak up all the bad air and spit out all the good air and he he thought that one of the side effects of this would be to cured being the test can determine if there is resistance to the antibiotic Reform Poisson which may indicate multi-drug curricula and it's accurate in those who are also effective milk Lord so during the first half of the nineteen hundreds the risk of transmission from this source was dramatically reduced after the application of the pasteurization L. shown line coined the name Turkey lesson eighteen thirty nine and between eighteen thirty eight and eighteen forty five Dr John Cryan the owner of Mammoth Cave in Kentucky arena you'll hear this so as to perky losses uncommon in most of Canada the United Kingdom and the United States is administered to only those people at higher hope you don't get TB so how it goes without saying you know misinformation I mean three thousand to two thousand four hundred BC genetic studies suggest the presence of TB in the America from about one hundred ad so in two thousand fourteen on March twenty four th each year the anniversary of Coke's original scientific announcement and who hasn't had a wonderful World Burke Yellow Day celebration often associated with them peels Nolan here's the reason why is because when one member of a family died there were a lot of like really weird curious that people came up with carriers but one of the main ones especially in Europe and the Americas was Berkey Lucius isn't that amazing AGM everybody so back to a guy who brought a bunch of people in a cave mm and it was about it was like one of the first treatises on air pollution in London and he wanted to it's infection so we did one thing and identifying and on the other hand he kind of delayed discovery God infected mill infected significantly reducing rates of tuberculosis even before the arrival of streptomycin and other antibiotics although the disease remained a significant threat prior clean air fresh air you need to get out in the cold or you need to stay indoors free you need to go to the country breathing that clean air that was the idea Zia Robert Koch identified and described the back Sylla's causing tuberculosis emphasis on March twenty fourth eighteen eighty two he received the Nobel prize earlier while it was not effective it was later successfully adapted as the screening tests that we know okay world tuberculosis day is marked five percent of all deaths as I mentioned before by the nineteen fifties mortality in Europe had decreased about ninety percent okay improvements in sanitation vaccinations and other public health measures begins say so how do we discover to work USA's as it's known today yeah so although English physician Richard Morton established the pulmonary form associated with business hardy we gotta have a party everyone dresses your favorite bacteria we all cough sputum nowhere mask oh you're right we all wear so in Europe bull you're GONNA go back a little bit rates of tuberculosis began to rise in the early sixteen hundreds tweet peak level in the eighteen hundreds when it caused nearly and upper classes offered excellent care and constant medical attention whatever the benefits of the quote unquote fresh air and labor in the Sanatoria even under the best condition into each one of them died within a year so one now the cave is full cave is just full of TB so one being in public places thanks and the infected poor were encouraged to enter Sanatoria that resembled prisons of course the Sanatoria for the middle processes I mentioned coke announced glycerine extract of Tuber Bacilli as a remedy for tuberculosis eighteen ninety calling it to Burke Ulan as I mentioned before sound yeah they all died so Herman Bremmer opened the first TB sanatorium in eighteen fifty nine in Gorbachev now Soliko SCO in a salon in physiology or medicine in nineteen o five for this discovery coke did not believe that cattle and human debris kilos diseases were similar which delay the recognition of infected milk as a source of I mean who hasn't celebrated world's Berko sustain that traditional way so it caused wide widespread public concern in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries as the disease became in sixth deaths in France after TB was determined to be contagious in the eighteen eighty s it was put on a notifiable diseases in Britain campaign started to stop people from Spain uncommon among the urban poor in eighteen fifteen one in four deaths in England was due to consumption one in four by nine hundred eighteen TB still caused one reads any air that that other people around them are breed you only breathe fresh air we all go to different areas of the town and we breathe in fresh air fifty percent of those who had entered died within five years when the Medical Research Council formed in Britain in nineteen thirteen initially focused on to burke yellows this research case solely is that the first description of scruffy lies given the Honky nasion classic Chinese medical text traditionally to the introduction of medication the only treatment was surgical intervention including the new more thorax technique which involves collapsing an infected lung too test it and to allow to Bricusse lesions to heal so you would just like pop pop pop your lungs and just like wait for it to just chill out anyway thanks for listening guys get you next time bye check of the novelist Franz Kafka Katherine Mansfield Charlotte Bronte Dollars. You're Betsy Thomas Mann W Somerset Maugham Georgia Mantech is so romantic major artistic figures such as the poets John Keats Percy bysshe shelley and Edgar Allan Poe the composer Frederic Chopin the playwright Anton disease or surrounded by people who did a widespread belief was that Turkey Los assisted artistic talent so because effective antibiotic against tuberculosis. This discovery is generally considered to the beginning of modern era of tuberculosis although the true revolution began some years later Elizabeth Buji and Salman Wachsman in isolated streptomycin produced by a bacterial strain streptomycetes crissy's streptomycin was the first quote the captain of all of these men of death it was also known as the great white plague as say they made it out of the plague Yeah Yeah thises which Dr mcelroy taught me is pronounced Thyssen and not thesis is a Greek word for consumption and around you know in the life and death of Mr Batman by John Bunyan which was the companion book to the Pilgrim's progress yup the author calls consumption four sixty BC hippocrates described thises as a disease of dry seasons the abbreviation TB is short for because you are bedroom yeah so apparently physical mechanisms proposed this affects including the slight fever and Taxila that it caused allegedly helping them to introduced for certain cases of TB infections it involves the removal of infected chest cavities in the lungs to reduce the number of bacteria and to increase exposure of the remaining bacteria burke you'll agilis not to burke yellow sus consumption was the most common nineteenth century English word for the diseases just killing it with a volley these past couple of weeks honestly so good so in one thousand nine hundred four Albert Shots L. and Robert Louis Stevenson and the artists Alice Neel John watto advert monk Aubrey Beardsley and Amadeo Modigliani either head in nineteen fifty two with the development of ISOS and add the first oral mycobacterium sidled drug the advent of revamping Abi requires a lot of antibiotics taken for a long time and not everybody has access to that so we now treat to Bricusse with that coughing gently into your embroidered handkerchief you know it was like this idea of melancholy was really big during this time the the paled to antibiotics in the bloodstream so too perky losses has been known by many names from the technical to the familiar fissas attics but drug resistant strains have definitely cropped up since the nineteen eighty S. That's one reason why we have been completely eradicated it because of the emergence of this surgery has been and I pronounced it or no it's thesis since our with a P. Yeah PT psychosis that's at hold on in the nineteen seventies hastened recovery times and significantly reduce reduce the number of tuberculosis cases until the nineteen eighties however even today treatment of tea our favorite lung disease too so it's not gone no it's it's a lot of manse a quiz on poets and poetry question number one the seventeenth century poet Basho was the most famous and because drug-resistant drug resistant strains have cropped up we gotta start fighting it in a different way so but odds are odds are you're not GonNa get it probably anyway we're not we're not doctors please see your doctor if you feel see life more clearly and to act decisively or does it give you like delusions I mean I imagine you're like it goes to your brain yeah you're just like poet of the Edo Period in Japan and made famous a simple style of verse that many elementary school students no of today what is that form of poetry called Sylvia Plath is best known college girls around the world as the depressed author of the Bell Jar but her second book one of poetry brought on her rise to fame in nineteen sixty Ron man who writes in his in his journal about how much he loves this woman and how weak he is and how his week is can barely read all of the book should be able to be treated should you get it but you might not know right away yeah have it unless you're around other people exactly influential in the realms of literature theater and civil rights and even had a popular play named after one of his versus who is this poet five what is the title of this book in which contained poems entitled Daddy Tulips in Lady Lazarus but none about a mermaid in music Dan Morris Van Morrison Song TB sheets which is about his first wife died of tuberculosis and he wrote a song about it was crazy ooh formed an often reuse theme in literature such as in Thomas Mann's the Magic Mountain set in a sanatorium of course still he was commissioned in eighteen twenty six to engrave images from this epic poem which listeners might remember well from episode forty seven an opera as in Puccini's La Boheme and various law Trivia an art as in Monet's painting of his first wife Camille on her deathbed and I mentioned this in my ammonia that he reads it that he makes his brain strong but his body so we and he's so sad about it so that was like oh man people just loved it they were like can't wait up question number eight the thirteenth century poet Rumi lived and worked in the ancient country of Persia of which it's better known now as medal of freedom in two thousand eleven and won three grammys I spoken word albums she has been called the black woman poet laureate who am I talking about what question for nine this poet is often considered the national poet of Chile and Colombia novelist Gabriel Garcia Marquez. PRUFROCK shall I part my hair behind do I dare to eat a peach I shall wear white flannel trousers and walk upon the beach ends Bangladesh and India located at the top of a Feline Bay that shares its name what region am I talking about question number four question number six name the single word that fills in the blank of the following excerpt from Elliott's the love Song of j Alfred is the name of this poem we'll give you a minute to think about it and we'll be right back with answers movies I think oh the petals of Saint Mary it Stars Bing Crosby as well so so that is my very quick and dirty about question number two this nineteen twenties poet a leader of the Harlem Renaissance and Purveyor of the then new literary art form known as Jazz Poetry was question number five William Blake was little known English poet painter and print maker during his lifetime but is now considered seminal figure of the romantic era but also it made you so beautiful and sympathetic like Al You're thin you're indoors all the time you were so weak Turkey lists was for centuries associated with poetic and artistic qualities among those infected and was also known as the Romantic Disease Yeah Hell Hey good all right here we go question number one the seventeenth century poet Basho was the most famous poet of the Edo period Japan and made famous a simple style verse that many question number three the poet musician an artist Rabindranath Tagore reshaped literature and music of this Southeast Asian region that's who is this poet and finally question number ten my favourite twitter mean is when people rework the following William Carlos in my art episode is that even at her deathbed as he's grieving he felt the need to paint her he was like I must I must paint her she looked so beautiful five-plus decade career which includes eight autobiographies seven place to cookbooks and of course numerous books of poetry she also won the presidential they were like oh here's the white plague instead of the black plague who gross however there's a good side to burke yellow says okay this once called him the greatest poet of the twentieth century in any language he is best known for his one hundred love sonnets and is referenced frequently in TV and Film Lot wouldn't that be funny if that was a a `wang-koo it'd be like such a mind freak the moon hits your I like a big pizza pie that elementary school students no of today what is that form of poetry called Haiku it is a Haiku as a refresher high coups are five seven live formats while ren coup another format he was famous for was a kind of collaborative poetry style where participating poets take turns providing alternating verse bag me a Tiburcio Society is crazy me Oh man that's yeah ooh yeah that's a that's a moray when that moon hits your I like a big pizza pie counting syllables Oh yeah I think I'm not totally I'm not totally sure what's a real region over there okay let's let's think about base the Bay Bengal K. Angola region it is a region it's sun the play by Lorraine Hanbury it's title is taken from his nineteen fifty one poem called Harlem it's also known as a dream deferred and the line is what happens to a dream deferred rights and even had a popular play named after one of his versus who is this poet Langston Hughes that is Lincoln Hughes a raisin in the poem. I have eaten the plums that were in the icebox and which you were probably saving for breakfast forgive me they were delicious so sweet and so called what does it dry up like a raisin in the Sun question number three the poet musician and artist Rabindranath Gore reshaped the literature and music of this title and also in films as the nineteen forty five film The Bells of Saint Mary starring Ingrid Bergman as none with tuberculosis which is one of my dad's favorite Christmas I have heard the mermaids singing blank to blank question of seven this richly voiced poet died in two thousand fourteen after brought to university which is in West Bengal India The Sri Lankan national anthem was inspired by his work as well hey so bengal is like a cultural in one thousand nine hundred eighty poet a leader of the Harlem Renaissance and Purveyor of the then new literary art form known as jazz poetry was influential in the realms of Literature Theater and civil confessional poet not as well known her name is Anne Sexton she was a close friend Sylvia plath and she also committed suicide in a similar way as place with carbon let you have TV so my on that note on that note so my quiz today is much lighter my quiz today is entitled Sick With Ron Uh okay plath was known as a confessional poet that's the term of her style and that she directly utilized daddy tulips and Lady Lazarus but none about a mermaid sake oh no it's called Ariel monoxide inhalation. Everybody Yeah it's terrible and sex is mentioned in the Peter Gabriel Song Mercy Street which is also dedicated to her and when he died in nineteen forty one he left painting sketches hundreds of texts with some two thousand songs. His legacy also endures in the institution he founded which was called the and political region within India the country so okay great question number four Sylvia Plath is best known to college girls around the Moray all right well I never said I was appalled okay question number two this When a midnight small office the Asian region that spans Bangladesh and India located at the top of Feline Bay that shares its name what region am I talking about what's the depressed author of the Bell Jar but her second book WanNa poetry brought on her rise to fame in nineteen sixty five what is the title of this book in which contained poems entitled the Last Line of the song is an with her father is out in the boat riding the water riding the waves to the sea it's a pain and struggles with mental illness and her work she committed suicide in nineteen sixty three she was only thirty which I did not realize great song it's off the so album from nine hundred eighty five it is so good can't tell you guys I love Peter Gabriel Anyway Question Five William Blake was little known uh internist and made a point to depict non white bodies as virtuous rather than savage so he was commissioned to do the which listeners might remember well from episode forty seven listeners might remember that I referenced in the previous Kajillions nothing on my man more further away than what you're looking for how you doing great great inspiration through visions of ghosts and angels and one time saw the ghost of a flea with a friend and drew it and then he made a mini painting of it in Gold Leaf divine comedy pieces and he only managed to make some watercolor sketches because he was known for his engravings his main artistic medium Gaulle Rabindranath Tagore was such a huge deal and it's still is in

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62 - Secrets to Mastering Diabetes with Robby Barbara & Cyrus Khambatta

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62 - Secrets to Mastering Diabetes with Robby Barbara & Cyrus Khambatta

"Diabetes in particular is one of the few crank diseases. You can self monitor meal by meal. You do not know if your heart disease got better or worse after one meal through any object test but with diabetes you can. We'll hello out there. Everyone we are so so pumped to welcome you to the switch for good podcast. I am Olympic silver medalist and switched for good nonprofit founder Dot C. Bausch an IM Alexandra. Paul a certified health coach and a long-time actress years ago. My life was radically transformed when I made the switch for good away from eating animals and animal based products. My athletic performance was greatly enhanced. Much to my surprise actually by the power of plant based eating dropping all animal products for my life has finally aligns my values with my diet and now I feel more balanced and war peace with food and with my body Alexandra and I started this podcast with you in mind. We are here to take you on a transformative journey to learn the power of eating plants and help you redevelop a healthy relationship with food and a more whole relationship with yourself. Each week we bring you. Doctors Dietitians psychologists prominent athletes and other interesting guests who have deep rich information and inspiration to share. We welcome you every week. Join US on the journey to switch for good. This is the future. Hello and welcome to the switch for good podcast. I'm Alexandra Paul and I'm here with my wonderful co host dot C. Bow Shoddy. Hey so you and I are here together with two old friends of ours so actually robber borrow and Cyrus Dr Cyrus combat were in one of our first shows show nine and they're back because they look and so we immediately want to talk to them about it so that you the audience can go out and get it because it has so much important information whether you're diabetic or not To learn about the truths about eating a plant low-fat plant based whole food diet now or know somebody who is diabetic. I have a very specific question to them. about A makeup artist that we worked with With filming our commercials coming up this summer with nine of the world's best athletes and her husband is diabetic. And what's happened to him over? Just two weeks of them completely and totally changing over overnight literally to a whole foods plant based Diet. It's just It's all inspiring but I want to get the science behind. Why that you know that this happened to him as to his transformation and she in here listening they they binged watched fifty two episodes of this podcast and since two weeks ago so I don't know looting the one with great I said we'll make sure you listen. They she's like Oh yeah. Yeah Yeah I know I did man so we are. Yeah we're pretty pumped and for multiple reasons but one of the main reasons is because diabetes is an epidemic in this country and all over the world. Here's a shattering fact. Something that really struck me hard. I did not know every twenty one seconds. Someone new is diagnosed with diabetes. So as you mentioned two of our former guest in our first ten episodes are back to chat about their new book Cyrus Kamata and Robbie Barbara the healthy minds behind the mastering diabetes. Coaching program originally shared their story and wellness tips with us. Back in episode nine. But you're going to need a refresher I know I do. It's complicated stuff And the wool has been pulled over our eyes in terms of what actually causes diabetes. So go back to nine and take a listen because we're not gonna go back through their whole stories which are fascinating within themselves. But today we're going to take a really deep dive into their latest work. Mastering diabetes the revolutionary method to reverse insulin resistance permanently in type. One type. One point five yes. There is a type one point five which I know in episode nine you and I were like what what is to us. Yeah probably news to a lot of people now so it's great that right about type two. Which is the most common prediabetes and then also just stationary diabetes? And that's a bold claims so robby Cyrus here we go. Thanks for being on again. Yeah thank you so much for inviting US. Back on this podcast. You guys are a force for good and we appreciate the opportunity. I JUST WANNA know. Robbie is eating and he's eating and includes salad with fruit in it and that's GonNa also talk about. His diabetics are incredibly afraid of fruit. But Robbie and Cyrus are not in fact. Most of their diet is made up of fruit. And so we'll be talking about that. Okay I for those who were watching. I just wanted to note a little bit. Is the ambiance yummy sound. Sounds like a horse in the background throughout me. Share the salad with everybody listening. It's absolutely delicious. It has persimmons in dates. You said Asian Pears and mixed Greens and behind. Robbie is our bananas and Persimmons and Mangoes and Papayas. It's an amazing of fruit. Because that's how much fruit he eats and Cyrus is coming to us from Costa Rica War Guy. Yeah right next to his Catt who actually eats Broccoli and cauliflower. Because she loves it. Yeah by choice. Yeah that's true. Yes Sir we are not trying to feed are gathered even may know that we are the plant based Weirdos around here and they dabble they started snipping food and picking out Broccoli and cauliflower started eating it right so listen we had you on so people who want to hear about your story. They should definitely go back to episode nine. We want to get to the point here. Why did you write this book? So the reason we wrote this book that you can see on the screen. Here mashing diabetes. The reason we wrote this book is because there's a lack of good evidence based information in the world of diabetes about the true power of using a plant based diet to not manage but reverse insulin resistance and reverse prediabetes and type diabetes and getting incredibly control in type one one point. Thought as you probably know. There's a little bit of nutritional circus which is happening on the Internet. These days right you have. There's a lot of conflict. Low carb high carb low fat high fat low dairy dairy Mo- Fiber High Carnivora plant fake Vegan. He made it your average person looking for ways to improve their health that they're living with any form of diabetes. With freebies they go to the Internet. They go to Youtube. They go to instagram looking for information and within twenty four hours. They're like wow. This is confusing. There's a lot. There's a lot of conflicting opinions. And there's a lot of really frustratingly complex advice. I don't know what to do. You know what not? Even the experts agree. I'm GONNA do nothing right. Yeah what we decided to do is put together a book that we want to serve as the manifesto. That's the way we're looking at is this is. This is a Bible of Diabetes Knowledge. That teaches us. What actually causes the underlying in what causes blog posts fluctuations in the root cause. And then how you measure and diagnosis that reposited. Then how you can actually reverse it using your food as medicine. So that's where concepts diabetes was born. And that's what we spent more than two years putting into this book and we have warned that I would also like to state. Is that We we spent a lot of time digging deep into the research to try and understand you know is what we say. True back to the drawing board. Are we making things up? Are we only telling people that eating a plant based diet is because Robbie experienced it and I experienced it and we know it's good for us right so what we did as as Walter? The research really like did a deep dive to try and understand what is the opposite side saying what is the research they use. And what is the plant based won't use? What's the union between the two? What's confusing and what's not and so. We try to be as unbiased as possible and as as objective as possible and presenting. Research truly is powerful. And that's what we try to do in this broke with over eight hundred and we truly hope that it makes a difference in your life. Also add part of the reason we wrote. The book is because people kept on asking us to write the book after Three Years Running and coaching program. Having over three thousand people go through it getting all these amazing results people like. Hey what are you gonNA write a book? When are you going to have this resource that I can just hand to my friend? Who's trying to understand what I'm doing. Why it's working so We took the request seriously. And we put the time into create. What? We're really proud of like Cyrus every hope it's a semantic festival in the resource that can be used for years to come. I can't really mimic exactly what you were saying about such. It's there's so much confusion. That then it catapults people into doing absolutely nothing That makeup artist that I was speaking about the opening She when I sat down with her a couple of Mondays ago To start the day she said I watched. She said her husband. Binge watched documentaries and they watched forks over knives and they watch game changers and they also watched fat and a couple of the other Kito and Paleo type documentary and she said we on one day just straight through him and she felt so disillusioned and so confused and so frustrated that they did exactly that nothing. They woke up the next day and said well. There's obviously you know. And they didn't do anything and it wasn't until Kudos to you guys for your powerful personal stories that you have told for many years before writing this book because I think it's a combination of that plus the science. It was until she sat down and had in her chair. Nine of the world's best athletes that she went home and said okay. Right these stories I cannot deny and we want to feel better and I want my husband to feel better and changed over to to whole food plant based overnight and and then she will probably be one of your first people to buy this book. We're GONNA make sure that I just WANNA see. I WANNA go back because I before we had you on last year I was confused about diabetes. And you mentioned a term insulin. Resistance and Blood Glucose control most people when they think of diabetes. They just think you can't eat sugar because you don't want your sugar to go up yet. You said the most important thing is to deal with insulin resistance. Can you talk about your philosophy in terms of how to deal with diabetes and then we can go deeper into more of the details of it for sure is a great question so a if we go back to the beginning we say? Well what is diabetes and worries type two diabetes in particular because type? Two diabetes affects ninety two percent of the of the diabetes population. They were looking at more than thirty million diagnosed people in the United States and upwards of eighty five million undiagnosed people in the United States so very large numbers of people right. So if you go back and try and figure out what the heck is type two diabetes. What you will find is that type. Two diabetes is just a collection of symptoms may sound weird to say that but type two diabetes a collection of symptoms that manifests itself without John of the symptoms is a High Blood Glucose out. But before you develop type two diabetes. You develop admission known as free diabetes before we developed prediabetes develop a condition known as insulin. Mississau- so in other words cannot develop type two diabetes without first becoming free. I becoming insulin resistant. And men transitioning to prediabetes then transitioned into type two diabetes. They are free. Recchi's so what is resistant. Now Insulin? Resistance is basically a condition that is that is strongly associated with the type of food that you eat the amount of food that you eat also associated with your activity levels associated with how much alcohol you drink. And how lifestyle so insulin. Resistance is influenced by number one. A dyson has excess calories. So it's when you say influenced by. How has it influenced? You can increase your risk for the development of insulin resistance by eating a diet. That is Has Excess cowards period? Demonstrate that excess cowards number one number two excess saturated fat is number two. And there's a lot of people who right there would be like whoa. Whoa WHOA WHOA. Whoa WHOA that is not a true statement. Right and they would. They would have problems with me saying that but I'm going to get back to that in one second. Excess refined carbohydrates cookies crackers chips bread cereals pastas pastries People who need more of those are the high risk for instance your Sedentary Higher Risk for Insulin Resistance Day. If you drink alcohol virus for insulin resistance if you live a high stress lifestyle high risk principals and if you don't have diabetes or prediabetes that you know of what is the normal blood sugar That would would raise up to if I had if I who's on a whole foods plant based diet and low saturated fat. If I had to bananas or three bananas it wouldn't go up anywhere near at the skyrocket of of someone who is in insulin resistance exactly so you guys are both non diabetic which is awesome. We WanNa keep you there your job nor Ludwig ups if we were to check your ugly at any point. During the day you're goes would likely be between seventy at its very lows and about a hundred and thirty. Maybe one hundred forty at it's very biased. And it would just kind of like covering that window between seventy one hundred forty all day. Long because your pancreas and liver are talking. We twenty four hours a day and they're making sure that they keep your blood with nicely. Wealthy is that protects to authorize. Your Body Against Inflammation has given saying I personally with insulin. Resistance or existing diabetes one banana and they're loaded with all the two hundred one eighty two hundred twenty two to forty remained and then too bad. I shouldn't have got one hundred. See I told you. Dr Atkins is right. I should diet the Paleo Revolution. There right actually are by the TV genetic revolution there right. I should at it that way but the truth is that the only reason why eating carbohydrate which caused this traffic jam of Glucose and sorry. The cat just walked across people that are listening. I think Kapor beauty cyrus flower like fueled cat just walked across. Okay sorry about that okay. So the reason that there's a traffic jam of glucose in a traffic jam of insulin in your blood is not because the carbohydrate caused. It's because it's because everything that before you ate that carbohydrate rich food set the stage for insulin resistance which then initiated a traffic jam so we go back and try to figure out what's what caused them to begin with. The answer is a diet. That's Fi- a saturated fat is the number one most primary cons but again I also WanNa talk about the fact that there's you know a diet. It's just too high in calories. Consuming calories is also not beneficial not true much the same mechanisms and then also a diet. That's high in refined carbohydrates can cause insulin resistance or merely inside beautician. So when I summarize what you said and you can tell me Is that the reason that you have. Diabetes is because there's too much fat in your cells that doesn't let the sugar in so it hangs out in the blood so the problem is the fat and the sugars the symptom and when people go on these low carb diets they think. Oh yeah this is really good for my diabetes. But actually it's just it's just like you not does not dealing in the symptoms. You you still have the issue. And they're only testing the symptoms. Your Blood Glucose like there's tests to look deeper so it's just like the band aid and in fact in your book you talk about how people who eat low low carb actually have more insulin resistance. And here's the kicker If you eat a low carbohydrate diet Your Blood Glucose is likely to look better. You're okay here's people with diabetes prediabetes Diabetes Unit They they're when they're overweight or not back of the matter is they're they start eating a heated genyk diet and the first thing that happens is weight loss rapid weight loss. They lose one pound two thousand pounds for we and before they know it also lost thirty pounds. In the last six weeks I think Akita genyk giant is high fat right Akita genyk diets. High Fat bear read Low Carbohydrate. So they lose weight as a result of losing weight they drop their blood cholesterol so their total cholesterol comes down there. Triglycerides level comes down. Their blood pressure. Comes DOWN THERE? A one seed value from down which is a marker of diabetes. Their Fasting Glucose funk down there fasting insulin comes down. These are all good things. John good things so they do Akita Genyk Diet and then they look their blood work and they're like wow that's amazing. I did get a genetic thing. Now I see all these improvements of in my In these biomarkers looks like solve the problem. I don't diabetes anymore and the truth. Is that all on proud of us. Together you biomarkers in a much healthier state hats off to you giant. I fought but making the statement that I don't have diabetes anymore is a fallacy. It is not a true statement. Because just because you're biomarkers improve is not mean that you don't have the the way to determine whether or not you actually have diabetes is to is to challenge your glucose metabolism by eating something. That Uber Contains Glucose or something that contains Barbara Hydrate. So let's back up to the American Diabetes Association website. And you take a look and you say what are your diagnostic. Criteria for developing type two diabetes in other words. How would I know if I have five? The answer is one of three things will happen number one. You need. Your fasting. Blood Glucose is greater than one hundred. Twenty six first thing in the morning with no food if it's higher than what twenty six bone? Mud number two. If at any point in the day I were to check your post and you're over two hundred. That means you're W number three. If you were to take a thing called an oral infosys tolerance test you would fail and what that means that you can go doctor. You could get this. Little Solution of water would seventy five grams of glucose. Drink it and then over the next two hours. If you're bugging coast goes up over two hundred at any point in that two hour window. So y'all type two diabetes so those are the three diagnostic criteria. Now if you go into the research and you take a look at what happens with Diet with genyk diets. What you'll find is that fasting blood glucose often comes below one hundred twenty six awesome. Random Finger stick glucose often comes never even approaches two hundred awesome. That's great but the key to genyk world will not use an Oral Glucose. Tolerance Test to challenge their glucose metabolism and in without performing that test to actually determine. What would happen to your blood glucose if you were to eat something that contained by Google's U N not saying that you're not living with type two diabetes right. That'd be like saying. Oh yeah you know. I'm the best in the world right and be like well. How about we challenge you versus the reigning world champion. You like no nothing to do it. That's for sure. Trust me on the best right and you're like what kind of inane logic right but wait at all different types. What if I just which seems really impossible to do what if I just stay on Akito Diet? I mean as far as the symptoms and how I'm feeling right one sees down and the glucose down and I may have it but it seems to be in remission or it's not I keep it in remission so that's a phenomenal question and I'm GonNa answer that using a two pieces of data number one You looking at research. What you'll find. Is that people WHO ARE LIVING WITH INSULIN. Resistance over time even if their blood glucose control by not elaine sugar or carbs or anything right by avoiding the Hydrogen Rich Foods Insulin resistance is associated with a whole list of diseases including pretension being one of those high cholesterol fatty liver disease and kidney disease up peripheral neuropathy or blood flow in your limbs needed to amputations nerve damage which is fertile and then retinopathy which causes blindness and now. Alzheimer's Disease Guy. So it was just like this whole cascade. Other conditions that are improved as a result of living in an insulin resistance. So that's the first thing. The second paper that was recently demonstrated the effects of energetic diet in more than two hundred sixty people over. The course of two years is is one of the. This is one of the longest genetic study that we have at our disposal. These are and what I did was. I took a look at this. Study to try and deep diving. Really try and learn what's happening. Over the course of time there was a paper that was recently published. That documented what happened in more than two hundred sixty people living with type two diabetes over the course of two years while hauling Akita Genyk Diet and this is actually a really important paper because the ketogenic world has really have that many scientific studies that demonstrate the long term effectiveness of the approach. There's a lot of studies that show what happens in ten weeks or three months six months but over the course of the year so I wanted this paper to try to try to learn what is actually happening. And the what is being projected and sold to the outside world is that Key genyk Diet reverses type two diabetes. That's what that's what the press talks about. That's what articles talking about. And that's why you see to the outside world people pay with job. The job can Jim Diet if you go and look at this this the data. Here's what you find after two years. The hemoglobin a. One C. Which again is this marker of whether you're living with diabetes or not is six point seven percents that indicates that these individuals still have type two diabetes. They started seven point seven percent and after two years they went to six point seven. But it's still in the diabetes category number two. Their Fasting Blood Glucose is one hundred and thirty four on average. That's a problem. That's indicate indicative of type two diabetes anything over on twenty five. Their fasting. Insulin levels are at sixteen. Anything over five. Indicates that you're living in an insulin. Resistance type two diabetes insulin resistance all three of them are indicators that these people are actually not improving their diabetes that in addition to that total cholesterol one hundred ninety four three high. Yeah I mean two hundred in America's what doctors want their patients to keep it under two hundred as we know what Dr Michael Gregor is said. Is that actually the total cholesterol at which there are pretty much no heart. Attacks is one hundred fifty and the reason that doctors don't tell their patients to get under a hundred and fifty is they don't. They don't believe they can get there too bad because a lot of people would be motivated by the idea of getting being able to avoid tax so one hundred ninety four is high so hundred four so the funny thing is that they started out at one hundred and eighty four and there festival went up two hundred ninety four over the course of two years. Ldl Cholesterol which is supposed to be lower than hundred started out at one hundred three and went up to one hundred fourteen so the cholesterol actually moving in the wrong direction hdl. Cholesterol is very good for nine. I'll give them friends and their triglycerides are hovering about one hundred fifty three so they're trying to earn a very healthy state. Hdl's and a health and state but they're LB plus which is most strongly associated with their future cardiac events. And then one thing that I also want to point out. Which is very important is that they're c reactive protein their high sensitivity. C reactive protein. This is just another thing that you could get tested by Dr Anything Greater. Than One indicates that there's a significant amount of inflammation inside of the whole body inflammation. There see reactive. Protein is at four point seven day type two diabetic insulin resistant high cholesterol inflame but yet the message that goes out to the general population is that Akita. Genyk Diet is an effective solution and diabetes reversal tool. That will problem. So how'd you find the study? 'cause my guess is they got buried after they got those results. No they didn't exact opposite. They're using these results to demonstrate the power and effectiveness of a of a Ketogenic Diet. I mean this is like a very widely publicized paper and I don't know if people are actually taking the time to like dig into the details if it's not but most people just read the abstract and they read the title like Oh hey quo gentile but what you just explained to us. I don't understand the abstract. Could say that. It is an effective way to manage because their standards are low compared to a low fat whole foods diet. They're not probably not comparing it against that. They're comparing it against will they're competing against. I thought that the ceilings that you were just speaking of the one hundred twenty six and one hundred thirty four those are those are not their Their control then the the numbers that you were speaking of before I'm guessing. Okay so let me read part of the the abstract for you here It basically what they do is they. They don't necessarily highlight the acclimated. I was just talking about. Oh what would they do? Highlight is the fact. They got their patients with type. Two diabetes to dramatically reduce their their use of oral medications and insulin. Which again hats off. That's good stuff but isn't it only because they're not eating carbohydrates? Well it's also because they're losing weight. So yes the answer's yes. Both of those. So in effect you take people with diabetes who are overweight and have you know High Blood Glucose and cholesterol and you get them to lose weight on Genyk Diet and then reduce their need for morning medication which is great but yet even at the end of that they still have symptoms and markers of diabetes and high cholesterol and Bogo problem. We know those problems but again in the abstract what they say. They use of semen control medication among those of the intervention decline including insulin. Less sixty two percent less insulin and one hundred percent less of a different salon reapply drug and the control group had no changes in these in in medication without saying we got people to decrease medication more effectively than the control again. That's a really good stuff. Then there was also a resolution of diabetes. Fifty three percent of them were burst diabetes on. It's not the case though but an it depends on how you define a reversal. If you're gonNA define a using your criteria of ingrates people reverse diabetes. But I'm saying if you define the reversal diabetes using the ADA's definition. Then you will find that. These patients weren't tested to determine whether they actually reverse diabetes. They didn't take that Quebec hike. That Glueck Oral Glucose test. What what are you? So we're talking a lot about what doesn't work the Keita. Genyk die because it's so frustrating that a lot of people will go to that and end up harming their health in the long run so badly what do you recommend Robbie tell tell us what you recommend. When you and Cyrus work with people worked with diabetics for years in your mastering diabetes courses. So what does work has been documented in period research dating back to the nineteen twenties. So insulin was first discovered in nineteen. Twenty one it was first used in humans in one thousand nine hundred twenty two and as early as twenty six return researchers were publishing the fact that as you increase the carbohydrate content of your Diet your insulin. Sensitivity improves research in nineteen thirties from Dr Rabinovich how to Canada Research Dr Hinder from the UK in the Nineteen Thirties. You have Doctor Author camped in the nineteen fifties. You have study at the study after study literally saying the conclusion the research as clear as day the more carbohydrate energy you consume as simultaneously lower your fat content. Insulin works more efficiently so but we do it. Masson diabetes. Is We teach us? We'll have a whole carbohydrate rich foods so let me ask you. Would that would be what they were eating in this peer reviewed research from the nineteen twenties. There is a lot less packaged over processed carbohydrates. Were they using potatoes and Broccoli and yams in these shows to be to be true to the literature. It's true that they processed provider food and there were some sites where they need to welcome hydrogen. But what's fascinating is consistent across. The board is as long as they're fat. Intake is reduced to less than fifteen percent total calories from fat insulin. Sensitivity is maximizing nineteen seventy-one Doctor Bruns L. Published a paper where he literally fed his patients a sugar water diet. So we're talking about decks dextrose and protein powder combine eighty-five percent calories carbohydrate. Fifty percent of calories come from protein zero percent from fat because it was a process diet. So you would imagine that when you feed this to people living with diabetes. He had thirteen prediabetes subjects in the study. So it was a small study and you imagine their fasting. Bunkers would go up and their insulin levels would go up but the exact opposite happened case out it compared to the control diet which is about forty that they saw nine point six percent reduction in their fasting bug macos and their insulin levels decrease paired oral glucose tolerance test that exact tasks cyrus was telling you look for community avoids. It did that test subjects after eating this very process acapella Diet and their insulin. Levels dropped and their fasting blood glucose levels at every point throughout or because artists were significantly lower again indicating the researchers conclude that a high carbohydrate diet maximize peripheral insulin sensitivity. That's what was happening. But then you go into Additional Research James W Anderson to the study where he had twenty males living with type two diabetes and in just sixteen days fifty percent of them. Stop taking on all together and had lower fasting bug because levels and their control was improved with no insulin. So effectively reversing type two diabetes in sixteen days and this was a more whole food diet mainly starch based with some vegetables and low fat. And you talk a lot about fat. So is there a difference between saturated? Fat unsaturated implant fat versus animal fat. Absolutely yes we actually go into detail in our book about that because the last that we wanna come across as or that we want people to take away from. This is that we're somehow like the fact that we're saying you gotTA EAT note bad. Diet Mall Fast Food as far from the truth. It's biologically accurate status president. All foods unit banana has a little bit of fat in it but there's a fundamental difference between the wave that saturated fat behaves versus unsaturated fat vs transform. So the cliffs notes here are that transfats that come from partially hydrogenated vegetable oils that are president's package. Fees are the worst funniest by Bob and those are not only with insulin. beat but also with increasing. L. Strong Increasing. A thorough slopes seconds that are saturated fats and saturated fats are known not only to create diabetes but also to strongly incidents your cholesterol level to infants tomorrow the more saturated fat you eat or higher your level and then in the third off his unsaturated fat which is generally considered to be the same cristobal flurry and the truth is that yes. Unsaturated FAT IS MORE PROTECTIVE OF INSULIN SENSITIVITY. But at the same time if you eat too. Much unsaturated fat in the new. Also in advance. So I know that you know under the table. You guys have big jobs with big potato and Broccoli and big mango and the Pie and everything You know I just WanNa be open about that to everyone listening. But why don't we know this? Why don't we know what you're talking about? Why can't I find India? This on American diabetes spent probably forty five minutes on Diabetes Dot Org Before this interview and put in the search what causes diabetes? What is the root causes? Diabetes does fat cause diabetes. Does SUGAR CAUSE DIABETES. They don't know nothing is the wish we had the answer. I really do wish I could tell you exactly why this is not caught on. Maybe hopefully in our book can turn things around this village snowball but I think there are legitimately allow very smart people who are sincerely confused and I think why this comes down to the confusion but what is a truly low fat diet so you will hear. Researchers site repeatedly. We conducted a randomized controlled trial. We compared a low carb to a low fat diet and look our diet much better across the board and you look at those studies. They were actually a low fat diet. They were not low fat plant based Diet where we have a maximum of fifteen percent of calories. Come FROM FAT. They have arranged between some. Our you know twenties up to thirty five percent of calories fat is considered low fat. Ami's diets include animal products include the saturated fat Cyrus explains problematic. They include dairy products and trying to claim that this is why a low fat diet didn't work. And you also hear people say oh. In the nineteen seventies America was told to follow a low fat diet and all these new products came out these low fat cookies and low fat crackers and we tried it and then people became more obese and more overweight and the reality is we never actually tried a low fat diet. In a matter of fact our toll grams of fat per day increase is just that are total calories per day increase therefore we dropped by about three percent. I think it was like thirty nine percent to thirty six something like that. Which is ridiculous. We American never tried low-fat diets so there's a lot of sincere confusion about what's going on. And hopefully you know we can change that. And I also say. Diabetes in particular is one of the few chronic diseases. You can self monitor meal by meal you do not know if your heart is better or worse after one meal through any object test but with diabetes you can and Siro says. He explained earlier people. They eat a banana the chemo they test themselves and they see. Wow my bogus is spiking. They just don't have the knowledge in the information and the resources to figure out why that's happening and get through that transition phase to actually see their body extreme insensitivity sensitivity and be able to eat those foods. Now you tour. Type one diabetes. Which means that your pancreas doesn't secrete insulin. Necessary to open that door to the to the cells to let the sugar in Cyrus is very clear that type two diabetes can be reversed but just for audience. What's the situation with type one? So we currently do not have a solution to reverse type one diabetes. I would love for that to happen. I've that's how I got into this whole thing. I really dedicated myself to. What do I have to do to get the stem cells in my body to create some new cells in my fingers? It seems so simple. I don't know exactly why it's so complicated. But the reality is when it comes to human biology. Creating new cells is quite difficult and for people living with type one diabetes also type one point five diabetes. We have these antibodies that are present and the current scientific knowledge. Is that these. Antibodies are attacking insulin or insulin producing Beta cells and therefore even if we were creating new ones the antibodies would just kill them. So we don't have a solution but so what you're doing is you're managing so that you you don't have to inject as much insulin. Which can be unhealthy is that you're trying to this point. So people who are living with insulin dependent diabetes. So this could be you could be. We make the distinction in the book. You can be a insulin-dependent type two and that means that you don't have antibodies but your pants has been exhausted over many many years of being insulin resistant and producing more and more and more insulin. The Beta cells and up getting you Josten and you have a low level of insulin production. So you can be insulin-dependent type two type one point five and also type one where you require insulin. Because you just don't proves nothing your own body in that case. The goal is to inject the same amount of insulin that you panthers would have normally secreted before the Beta cells were damaged. That's the goal. So it's not necessarily like less is better like message as little as possible. Because then you'd say I'm just not gonNA eat headed energy. Now get less less less. But that's not necessarily gonNA solve the problem so we're looking for a physiologically appropriate amount and you want to maximize your insulin sensitivity. So just like Sarah said you can reduce crime disease. Risks People living with type one diabetes. Do not die of High Bubba. Those readings we don't die of having a high a one C. We die of the complications of diabetes namely heart disease. That's the number one cause of death for people with all forms diabetes including type want. So that's why we care about improving In the long term but in the short term help us achieve our body weight. It makes us Ninth Brain fog. It makes inc more clearly so just being insulin. Sensitive in general also has short term benefits edition to making it easier to manage your bungalows levels. So those are some of the banks. Were looking for for insulin dependent so going back to what we were talking about earlier. This just mass confusion. That's out there For somebody WHO's living with diabetes or loved someone who's living with diabetes. Why WHEN THEY PICK UP THIS BOOK? Will they not feel more confused? What did you guys do different? 'cause I know you did okay. I'm I'm super glad you asked that question. Because if you want to end on or you go to a bookstore and you just go to. The diabetes sexually. Tagore Diabetes Bartered. With five ten fifteen twenty fifty different books about diabetes. All the different promise to you right and the promises eat this diet. You'll riverside eat this diet and again it can be confused right so what we do differently or what. We are attempting to do differently in this book. Is We are going all the way back to the nineteen twenty s to learn about what researchers first discovered about insulin sensitivity and insulin resistance when insulin was first discovered in sometimes even before is almost discovered that. There's a lot of really willing insights that were gain weight back in the day. That researchers today in the diabetes well today has built upon that a lot of people like to say. Oh well that's old research. You can't make their own research and the idea is actually no. You're right it is old research but there's some really valuable insights which still remain true today that size. I don't want that because this whole research thing comes up so much. It's it's all research that has been consistently proven decade after decade after decade and has never been demonstrated to the contrary. There is no research that there's somebody said. Oh Hey you know what we conducted a study in two eighteen and they did an actual low-fat practice offer digest. Thank you teach just like the decades of research and we actually saw an opposite result in his never happened is consistently the same result. So that's one had important very good. So there's there's over one hundred years of research which we've sort of gone through a painstaking detail and then in addition to that will also try and educate people about the fact that even though there's like a dietary trend or dietary bad that might look interesting and appealing and have a nice cover. If you dig deep and try and understand what's actually happening from a metabolic perspective. You might see a different pictures right. An Akita genyk died is a perfect example of that a low carbohydrate diet in general you know they look good on the outside they are. They're phenomenal bandits. Really off and what we're teaching people to do is dig deeper. I want you to go deeper. I want you to understand what's happening. Not only your party last year and your diabetes out of what's happening in long-term right what's happening over the course of one year two years and beyond and like let's let's learn as as a collection of scientists and people looking to become healthier. Let's learn from the evidence that already exists and try and come up with some logical conclusions rather than just taking a surface level. Look at something that appears to be good without actually digging more relevant information and embolden people to think deeper to think more for themselves to think more critically which we could use a lot more of that just in everyday right because we just take in the marketing and advertising and go that make sense. I'll try that right like really start thinking for ourselves. Imagine that excetera soon and then you have to look actually look at the research if you just read the abstract. You're not going to understand what's going on. You have to really understand what's under the hood so a lot of it is old research but there's also new research and you do talk about intermittent fasting fasting especially with diabetics. Gosh we we were always taught. Keep your blood sugar. Even and that's the best thing and so don't go too long without eating and now your book recommends intermittent fasting yes. I'm glad you brought it up. Because intermittent fasting has become you know arguably the most popular sites are trends. The world has ever seen. I would argue that. It's it's only seconds to the journey diet in terms of like the most optimal ever are subordinate. And it's actually. I'm very happy that it's a trend Because when I was in graduate school we did a number of experiments on mice and rats to try and induce insulin resistance and diabetes and then rescue that using the Bassett using various intimate strategy. So we could learn about out after functions and every single time we did experiments regardless of the big marine of intermittent fasting or cower fiction we would see improvements in their diabetes every cyrus as someone who sufficient and a longtime just. The animal model doesn't convince me and I know so. You need to tell me about humans. How does it work humans right so these animal models? They're not one hundred percent but they serve as a basis and there's actually many research groups that have gone and done studies in human beings that have tested very similar strategies about calorie restriction versus. You know sixteen hours have been an investing eighteen hours. Twenty four hours alternate day. Fasting modified ultimately fascinating. It's endless. Take home message here. Is that when you perform? Intermittent fasting investing is a a tool. You can implement in your life to extend the window of time where you're not eating any food. You Got Zero Calorie intake. That's like its definition. Intermittent fasting. I that's my definite attack right now. So it's your manipulating. The timing of food necessarily have to manipulate the total amount of calories issue. You can but even if you were eating the same number of calories instead of eating a little bit for breakfast and limited the launch of dinner. What you're going to do with you're GONNA YOU'RE GONNA change that fast for. Let's say six hours and eat only our window just manipulating time. Even out some pretty dramatic effects so intermittent fasting is a tool that helps accelerate the rate of weight loss. First and foremost so people who perform find that it's easier to lose weight and because you're able to you know lengthened. The amount of time in between the sixteen hours eighteen hours on twenty hours and as a result of that. You're just literally not taking on as many calories as a result of that you've put yourself into a caloric deficit and by being an explorer deficit. Now you start to lose weight eight hours. They don't eat the calorie equal of what they may have eaten in two thousand four. So you're you're in a calorie deficit with intermittent fasting. Even though you're eating and those eight hours you just happen to eating less calories toto okay. So let's say you sixty eighth fastest likely describing your sixteen hours of bassin plus eight hours of eating in that eight hour window. You technically speaking. You have a green light to eat whatever you want to eat. During that window the question really becomes if I need you in our window of opportunity to eat the same food in a in an eight hour window that she would have normally even in a whole day. Absolutely I'd be so freaked out that I'd have sixteen hours not to eat that I would overeat during that. Well that's the reign of somebody but I'm thinking I think. Dr Gregory talks about intermittent fasting. And I think he's he says that even if you eat the same calorie load they're still an effect on your metabolism. Yes absolutely so So answering questions. You know my question to you was. Could you eat the same amount of food in eight our window? You guys both said yes. That's a true statement. I could probably do the same thing. But if you're eating a plant based Diet it becomes harder and the reason it becomes. Harder is because a plant based diet is incredibly rich with fiber and water and that tends to to to make you fuller quicker and as a result of that. You don't take on as many calories as if you were eating meat cheese bread oils chicken fishing in right now secondary just like you said Dr Gregor has talked about in his new book. How not to die? It's about the fact that even if you don't change the number of calories you're eating simply by changing the window of opportunity you could still get dramatic benefits when it comes to diabetes and cardiovascular health. Some research sexy shown phenomenal things that extending that fasting window has has as a direct biological impact on your muscle and liver and heart issue. They and that's an effect on all tissues particularly your muscles deliver your heart your Basser They love I'm whether or not cheating not exposed to nutrients and they perform a lot of like housekeeping functions. They sort of like have all this time. And he's like burn for energy internal environment. Where am I going to get my energy from? If it's not coming from blood I gotta get it somewhere else. So I'll stephen burn the stuff that they've oxidise over the course of time so they initiate cellular recycling program and and that sell you. A recycling program is known as offered. Gee that's like a new term. That people might be familiar to and the idea is that they do a lot of cellular components and they used that and then he cycled those components to create new molecules. That actually are beneficial that extend the longevity of those cells. So you don't have to reduce your calorie intake in order to get these benefits as far as insulin sensitivity is concerned particularly Wayne Intermittent fast. It's so our at increasing your level of Sensitivity Eagle would out exercise even without weight loss. You can give dramatic improvements. In your ability to glucose tissues. You can get a dramatic improvement in how well insulin top east issues and how easy you Google since I am bats. A good intermittent fasting is something that we included in our program because we see tremendous results. He does help. People lose a lot of weight and as a result of that they've been resolve a lot of incidents. And that's what you have. You talked about four components to mastering diabetes. Can you give us a overview of what those are at because they're outlined in the book and so people have an idea of what they're buying of course so number one? Low Fat Lambaste wholefood attrition number. Two intermittent fasting number three daily movements and number four is daily documentation through a tool that we created called the decision tree. So each one of these is powerful enough themselves if you just implemented one of them you would see improvements in your diabetes health and so when you put them together you get this compound benefit. That's pretty backless. And so we just talk about them and fasting. We've talked about average attrition daily movement. It's really just understanding where you starting from and making progress towards more and more movement I mean people living diabetes. Just walking just walking is a game changer and we want people to build up to more strenuous exercise. Thirty minutes a day six days a week six seven days a week and that's GonNa have the biggest benefit but a lot of this aren't there. You can't ask somebody who's just stuck on their couch to go run marathons so we take a step by step and help build real really goals. That are realistic. Put it that way but the decision tree. That's really a pretty profound tool that we're very excited about and we used personally. This habit transform our lives but it's basically a process where you document your daily lifestyle decisions and you see how that impacts your medication needs your coast levels in chronological order. So you know what adjustments to make and how to communicate with your doctor as you go through this process so the program is so good at making you more insulin sensitive that you will become overmedicated. Very quickly so. If you're not communicating with your doctor you can have dangerous low bug because levels ended decision trees of tool proactively prevent that and it's also helping people understand. What are they consuming? So we do encourage people. I know this is probably not good in the eating disorder world. So you have to be sensitive to that and every client is is unique but we do teach people to use nutrition logging software simply understand. How much fat are you consuming your diet? That's the real crux on that decision. Tree of are actually consuming. Way More than you think you are. And what's that doing to your blood glucose levels which you can see once it's documented and again we do not encourage people to have to do this for the longtime especially the living prediabetes and type two. We want them to just never have to think about calories or fascist. Learn what foods to eat. Even when the hungry till they're satisfied when you're living with type one diabetes type one point five or insulin-dependent type two. You do need to know how many grams of carbohydrate you're consuming you know how much insulin to inject and again you talked earlier about how this information is just not taught. It's just not covered and the amount of time that we come across people on coaching program. That have never been taught that your carbohydrates insulin ratio changes at different times. A day is mind-boggling. Like diabetes one. Oh one is sometimes missing for people and that's definitely covered in this book so you document and know what's the ratio of Card Insulin? Given Times of the day and the decision tree helps you understand that with full clarity. It's a knowledge is power. I mean the you know what's going with the effect that it's having if you have so robby. What's your favorite story of transformation? One of your favorite stories. I'm sure there's many That you guys have experienced at mastering diabetes. There's so many but I have to go out to go with. Tammy just because candy lives in southern California and I had a chance to get to meet her in person and go shopping at the farmer's market. She joined our program. She was skeptical like she's this perfect example of somebody who has accumulated a lot of information. She had watched forks over and is she knew the RIP Eskillson was but she was still in this mode of. I'm living with diabetes. I can't eat. I can't eat fruit so I met her early in the program at the farmer's market and I'm buying a bunch of oranges and she's just like I don't believe there's no way that I could eat all those orders this no way this and she was kicking and screaming and not really listening to us and eventually one time. She's at the grocery store and she talked to Cyrus and sciences is lined by this by this by this dislike. Stop making a US to do exactly what to do. And she didn't and she hasn't incredible transformation and yet some good data so cyrus earlier about fasting insulin levels she you had one. C. OF SEVEN POINT ONE PERCENT. She was using two thousand milligrams of. Metformin per day fasting. Insulin was seventeen Mike. Cyrus said it should not be definitely is like the high high end summer on like five where you want to be all right. So she's very insulin resistant. That's clear data at her. Painkillers is pumping out a Lotta. Insulin still has an elevated a one C even with diabetes. Medications are supposed to help so she adopts our program and if it is this is like the seven months data. But it's gotta be better. Since that's seven months. She lost thirty four pounds. Raewyn see went to five point. Three percent she wasn't taking any metformin anymore and her fascination slows down into the five. I think it was like five point. One so glucose because that's what we care about this. I learned from today. You're okay so good question if she did. I mean she's sort of doing an oil who caused. Tom says almost every single meal because she's eating well over a hundred grams of carbohydrate at every single meal daca program. You're going to be eating three hundred. Four hundred five hundred grams of hydrate even at the Lower Calorie So she's doing that. Seeing her fasting. Insulin level drop seeing her blood glucose imperfect rain and her agency and perfectly the non diabetic range. Bat is a person that is glucose tolerance. That's a person that's hetero tolerant. Yes she could absolutely go and drink seventy five grand liquid solution and see a fantastic Profile throughout bad ogle's tolerance. That's no questions asked so. I gradually disease she. Also she couldn't. She had paid. She couldn't go to the grocery store. She couldn't climb a pyramid so I remember the day. She posted a picture of climate on top of a pyramid goes in Mexico. And just say how I could do this last year and my life was transferred out. We saw her recently at a conference. She's lost sixty four pounds. She continues to inspire other people and she's a great story. That is a really really great story and I know this book is going to change millions of lives. Thank you so much for writing. An and people Watching or listening to this show go back to episode nine learn even more about diabetes and about Robbie's and Cyrus is story and by the book for if not for yourself then for somebody you know because we know you know people who are either pre diabetic or on their or already have righties and I changed his funky so nine might be missing. But it's not missing from our Youtube Channel and you get to see these beautiful faces if you go to. The Youtube is definitely on there because it yeah today we you know we miss your all's whole journeys yourselves and their powerful and interesting and people need to hear them everyday on Youtube. I WANNA apologize for eating during the interview. We love it. We love it that you're getting if I wasn't living with type one diabetes. I could have just like putting the food. I injected insulin so my bug because is and it's like if I don't eat I'm GONNA crash. Nobody knows I needed your brain cameras. We're not going to be showing me eating seventy got to watch me eat with my fingers. I apologize we gather. We'll eat gracefully and with my fingers. I prefer it that way. We dipped in Garland's DAD's lead tonight. Ten fingers Jeez. So much such pleasure so thank you so much for tuning in today if we helped you in any way then click the subscribe button and let's keep hanging out together. We have so much more to share with you and if you need more information on actually making the switch for good please visit us at switch for good dot org for loads of Info and you can subscribe to our mailing list. You will receive all sorts of Super Bowl. 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Nothing But Silence

Unsolicited Advice with Ashley and Taryne

59:10 min | 4 months ago

Nothing But Silence

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But like that's not necessarily when you're like I got this new. Okay. We'll also be Ariel. Okay. I don't want to be chucky. I'm finding. Welcome back to the PODCAST. This is unsolicited advice I'm Ashley, I'm Taryn and this is our October series. Normally, we advise you on life stuff today we're just listening to your scary stories I'm really be real mind was like it's almost chief scary like I was like I don't WanNa like. Scare them all okay. So little disclaimer maybe listen to this during the day. Yeah. Not at night by yourself got also I have been getting the funniest tears. We're getting them to actually show statements around the funniest tags of you guys like in dentists, offices listening and say you're scared or like in a workplace room or like a classroom kind of situation where you're like around other people listening and doing your own work minding your business and you kind of like squeal or scream or. Jump. So. Funny. If you guys while listening to this. Experience, something like that. Please take a photo video. Tagore's we love seeing this stuff. It's like our way to connect with you guys you get to listen to us. We never get to see you unless you tag us. So please please please tag us in this episode. We also like feel like we haven't been getting as much like funny at it's so free to like. You know we WANNA to post some of your waiting for the Georgia edits for someone to like pace. Like one of our faces like on Georgia. I have I was waiting for it that story got me a lot of you guys message saying that Georgia got you. Yeah. Got Us all I had I don't know if anyone listening here I. Know Everyone's in different places. We happen to live very close to universal studios and they usually have their horror nights the last May's. FEM- one that I went on I think was a tricky one and it was so funny because the waiting outside the line. There's like I'll that everyone has to walk through and because he's like he's like kind of funny his his character There was this guy that was just a straight up comedian hanging outside the window as Chucky and just like pointing at people and just like ripping them apart like. Is it wear like usually there's like A. Woman? Oh. You have ever been to the Hollywood Universal Studios I'm sure they do it at Florida as well. There's this one area main street where like two people hang out the window and they just Bros people that walk by like Comedians do when you stand up to the restroom like that and. But during horror nights, it's Chucky and he has his horrible laugh and it's really fun. It's really good. My He's not looking at me. Yeah. That's not directed towards me. You look around and it's like, definitely no, you girl. In the green plaid. My cousin is a scare actress and she's like really talented and I've always like loved hearing. About her stories and like the art that goes into it but I've never been able to go because I just know myself and I can't handle stuff like that like A. Scary farm never been a universal and so she's actually she's creating monsters outside of her house straight up like literally like Joe passed the other day just to see progress and I was like mind blown at first of all her creativity and second of all her ability to carry out her vision like it's like these giant like monster scary thing. So but what she might do and this was like this is why I love watching just humanity in general like come up with ways to like. Kind of math that we're like all struggling her and all her friends like this usually is the busiest time of the year is they're doing universal every single night. So she has this like setup and it's like these like three witches basically and she might on her scare Mak-. On an standstill and when Pe- if people like walk drive by she'll like come to live like. Obviously in a safe way so fun. Yeah. I just thought it was like so cool to see her like using her talents for that kind of like supplementing like what she usually would be doing. You know what I mean. This is such a random fun fact that I think Attaran have talked about so much but I don't think we've ever talked about it on this. Channel, we when we first met had the weirdest realization I'm from like Riverside California. She's from like Whittier area and Those are completely like very far apart from each other. When we first met, we were like hanging out getting along like having a good time becoming friends our friendship with like blossoming and she happens to mention this cousin that she's talking about and. She says, oh. You know they're from this year. And I was like wait. Let's go. Do they go? She shows me a picture of her. She's like, Oh, she they went to Arrowhead and I was like I aero head, and we had this weird realization where me and her cousins went to the same high school. Yeah. So me and my sister and Jordan all know each other like I knew her before I knew you. and. Then, we also had another realization where. Alicia Cheer Yup Terrence Entire Family did sports and those years overlapped so well, and you came to see Jordan play Mattie because. My cousin played basketball. The same time at least show was cheering. Yeah I definitely went to the Games so I should be there. Will. Definitely there. Yeah. Like definitely when I watched sort. Has My best guy friend graduated that year? Just think I duNno small world we're going totally off the spooky. It's just a weird like small world thing that I. Don't think we've ever share on here. We haven't. See. anyways. I told my cousin I was like, oh Support you absolutely in your yard because I've never been able to support her a universal. So I'm super pumped for that and it's just like all this stuff is just putting me in the mood of light. Yeah. I'm freaking love this time of year we're having. A great time so Spoiler but not spoiler we have our very first Cova da Dah joke. Oh, really good. ooh I was like I was like, oh my gosh because I feel like I'm in coronas something now that's like in history books like talked about forever. But Yeah I was like the creativity. Can't. Stay till the end that's going to be at the end of the episode. So you came with two stories today yes, we have. and. We have like a shorter. Less scary but varies creepy. Still let's start with our. Okay. I can do that I can do that. Also look at this look at this look my coffee today came with a skeleton sleeve that says, coffee makes me Human M. my says vampires suck. I was like how perfect I today we are in the mood sips coffee sips coughing. I got a quad shot. So get out of my way today. We love caught ash crawshaw shot Ash. Okay here we go. This one is titled Hitchhiking Gone Wrong. We'll let me just let me just start off by saying who maybe don't hitchhike. This is why we don't hitch maybe don't hitchhike. We solved your problem. That's all the advice you need. Next. Okay. Here we go. He turned in Ashley First of all I wanted to say that I love your podcast I just started listening to it over quarantine and in love with your life and your energy thanks for being in my life and for sharing your wisdom. that. Why why? Why are ripe old age of? Much experience to go from. My name is caroline and feel free to use it. I thought this was not only a really scary story, but also an important one in terms of safety. Alcohol. Which? I listened to your other podcast about staying safe and how you need to look out for yourself and thought this related to both of these things. My friend told me the story and I was all caps shook I kind of thought. This is the only thing that happened in movies sometimes to set the scene. This is about my friend's grandma. We will call her grace. Okay. Automatically that makes it better. Hitchhiking was a thing like Ed Kemper like all dem's were he's. Changed these last like. Thirty Years Yeah. Thirty four years it used to be. It used to be easy like we never locked our doors I'm like I can't relate because literally the second I walked through any door I lock it. Yeah and my mom like I wasn't even allowed to ride my bike in front of the House without like an adult supervision out front like it's. It's a bummer because it's an in my own neighborhood, but she was like, no someone one of us, one of the parents have to be out there watching you which I get like I totally get a two anyways we will call her grace. Grace just came to the US from Germany. Her and her friend had been exploring rural. New. York and didn't have any form of transportation. They were hitchhiking to different places and nothing had gone wrong yet. It was just getting dark and they needed to get back to their friend's house. So they were looking for someone to give them a ride. They got in the car with someone and he seemed nice and accommodating. He asked them if they wanted to see a cool castle that was along the way. This might seem sketchy but castles are actually very common in Germany and future go to see them all the time I am olive by a castle. The only reason I want to go specifically is for Castle Torso. Thought nothing of this since this was a common thing where they're from and they did want to see the area. So he thought it would be fun. He stopped on the side of the road and told them that the castle was a little bit into the woods. Turner. They followed him into the woods but as they got further and further grace began to get concerned looking around she noticed that the man from the car was carrying a rope behind his back. Realizing we are out of the. Yeah. I totally the Oh so they got out to look a castle. Okay Okay Okay I was in the he's carrying rope behind his back tear. They followed him into the woods and as they got further and further grace began to get concerned looking around. She noticed that the man from the car was carrying a rope behind his back younger gun. Realizing this was not what she thought it was she quickly signaled to her friend and began to run. Right as they began running away, the man turned around and started running after that Oh my God I sprinted as fast as they possibly could away towards the road with him on their heels. When they got to the road there happened to be a car passing and they wave data until it stopped and without asking they immediately ripped open the door jumped in they screamed for the driver start driving and the people in the car were flustered and confused. But looking out the window, they saw the man standing on the side of the road. And immediately they started driving away. Hearing the story was crazy there have been so many times I have been trusting of strangers to think this could happen to anyone is extremely scary. Although hitchhiking is less common. Now, it was not weird to do back then and we do something similar every time we take an uber or lift. If grace was not smart enough to turn around, and if the car did not happen to be driving down the road at that exact time, the my friend honestly might not be here today. I. Hope you get the chance to read this because I think safety cannot be stressed enough although it is rare that something like this will happen. It still can, and this is enough to scare the me. Anyway I am excited about October series and I wish you so much luck with your lives and your podcast keeping us so much love Caroline. By God. So the whole thing that got me in this was like, okay well that was back when hitchhiking was a thing and of course, we don't do that anymore. But the second she said Uber left I was like she's right. I mean I was in newberry yesterday and I was thinking I dunno this guy like technically we're tracking. Technically we have all this stuff but we have to be safe and I think the jury days like if you get in a car and you get an uneasy feeling, cancel it get out. Yeah you know you don't know. My Gosh I don't like that that mall. that's the now for me. That's an absolute now, my Gosh. Thank you for sharing your. Thank you I. Love The like safety tip reminder. Yeah for absolutely everyone that is very interesting. It's like 'cause sometimes we think like, Oh, well, that's back in the day doesn't apply yet, but there are so many just like truths. If things at crossover, I mean even in just our stories in general that are written in like people will be like related. So much even though I'm not going through that specific scenario. So and people always ask me I, feel like I'm on a trail people always ask me like why I'm so obsessed with crime podcast they're like dozen that like mess with your head like you know people I'm sure like why are you obsessed with murder? Like are you weird? Are you? GonNa? Dates where I've been like. They're like, oh, like with what's something you like to deal with something like you do in your off time I like to podcast. Yeah like. Burst specific I'm like. True crime podcast. Yes. Am I like little girl voice there like you like that stuff I'm like not like, I'm like studying how to kill someone I'm just like. Learning, it's it is like a mystery you're trying to. You. First of all, you hear about these things and then a guarantee like after hearing about this like you started thinking about Uber and now from now on, you're GonNa be like extra careful. So first of all, I like to hear how they initial initially got captured because I think I can learn from the on second I am fascinated with just psychology in general. So like hearing like people become the way they are is like fascinating. But a main main thing is because a lot of the safety tips that I practice today are because of things I heard from crimes that have happened before. So I just feel like you can learn from it while learn. Other things. PODCAST. Life. How do you survive? As we know one size does not fit all All skin types are not the same. Our hair types aren't the same. So why we are buying the same shampoo and conditioner no one knows why are we all by same lotion to ask notes? No one knows insert function of beauty. How? This is fun is one of our absolute favorite brands to work with not only are they cute 'cause. They come with your name on it. So that's that they smelled You get to customize the smell and the color. That's fun. 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Should I go into mind? Yes. I feel like this has been our main. She'll find a good one and then all she'll do for a full week before we record is I have got the best story I can't wait for you to hear my story. I can't wait to read the story to you IAEA. This one is definitely like. There's so many pieces that are just terrifying that you're like there's no way like all of these things happened in one. In Nine, one one and once like it's yeah, it's like the first thing you're like, oh my gosh, that's crazy and then this, and then this it just like it's nuts but they're psycho people out there so. It could definitely be it can always be worse. I can always worse. Yes. Okay. So this is called nothing but silence. Hi. Girls. My Name is Sarah. Yes. You can say my name I love your podcast so much. I'm a writer Dai Listener. Anyway time for my scary story. It all started on Halloween last year. You know when we leave our houses without stupid masks well, anyways it was your average Halloween dressing up getting ready to trigger tree watching scary movies and eating a ton of candy. But what I didn't now was that this night was no normal night. My little sister went trick or treating with some friends and my parents were with her. It was around eight o'clock PM. My best friend came over and we decided to watch a scary movie. We watched a quiet place which I'll my God i. I literally just because I won't watch scary movies but ash convince me. She's like it's suspenseful like it's not scary in the way that. She's like you can handle it. So I did like it doesn't like horror, but this was. Also she's like a huge office fan in John. Kuczynski has erected and starred in it. So I was like you. I can't believe you haven't watched need to watch it. Yes. Okay. Says she said the movie all about quiet. So as you can imagine, we have our popcorn and are sitting in my basement watching the movie wrapped in blankets. Citing always. That's some seeing. The House completely silent, but then I hear something strange. I hear, US. Do. You hear that I asked her but she said, no. I thought it was my imagination until it got louder. A little while later, I still was hearing it so I asked again. Do you hear the music. And she says, yes, we both look at each other. It was weird. It wasn't like normal music. It was kind of like a creepy lullaby horror movie. Of course. Like a music box jewelry box like just the long south probably what mark is putting underneath the story, right? But we ignore it. We'll continue our movie. It is amazing. How much like your brain just tells you you're making fine. Yourself. You're fine. then. We hear footsteps upstairs. So God, I thought it might be my parents being home but then I realized that after trick or treating they went to a friend's house for a while. I freeze for a moment and look at my friend we stop the movie and ran into the bathroom and locked the door which wise. We laugh nervously and just sat there listening. That's always funny because when you're out to your like. I do you need me to be the strength right now? Are you? So you're both kind of like. We're fine but on the inside, your like I'm freaking out. Yeah and also I think you step into those roles when you know you have to. Me For example, when I was Taryn, I considered to be the stronger person. So default to like her taking care of me and making sure that I'm okay. With my sister I have to be stronger person. So you you automatically like it's almost like you know where you belong. Yeah. 'cause like I have to step up because I know leashes. Yeah that's. have to go do that. So I have to call myself down and go do it but in my view I'm like. We heard. Can Your turn ten? Okay. Laugh nervously and just listening the footsteps stop. I was about to open the door when I heard a sound that made my stomach drop. With my hand on the door, I hear this sound of whistling I literally my body I have. I can't. Okay. Eyes watering I quickly remove my hand from the door. Then we hear loud banging sounds. We jumped at the sound and my friend says, should we call the COPS? I agreed and we both got our phones out. We made a plan she would call her parents I would call the cops but my phone wasn't working. Of course seriously basement I know luckily hers did she calls her mom but she didn't answer. So she called my mom and again no answer. So she called the cops and I get that like when you're younger you're more of like I think nowadays, I'm like I. Don't care if I look soup. I'm calling the cops first and then obviously like you know they can help me more than like my parents could in a scenario like that. You know when you're younger, you're just like I need to call my mom yeah yeah and. Probably part of them was hoping maybe my parents are here and they're just like. You know. Okay. They picked up and she told him what we heard. They sank cops over. But said, we would have to unlock the front door which like I thought they said. I'm pretty sure I. Heard this on a podcast you can. You can refuse to open a door especially if you think someone's in the house and the cops will eventually just break down the doors to get it. I thought if I thought, you could give them permission like. I'm pretty sure being the one that lives there can say. Like come out house because that is to protect you from someone knocking on your door saying they are the cops that really aren't. So you can say I'm scared I don't trust that they on the line and have. The operator confirm which I have heard about tickets you. If you ever feel like you're being pulled over and you're like I can't tell if that's a real cop because that is sometimes it has happened you can call nine, one one and say, I'm getting pulled over in sketchy area. Can you please confirm someone's pulling me over and keep driving till you get to like somewhere with lights yeah. That my piss them off. But if you're scared for your safety like you do have rights, that's also I remember An ex that I was with was going to school to be a cop at the time. I don't know if he is but his dad was also involved in law enforcement and they would always tell me if you felt uncomfortable, you don't have to roll down the window like you. Yeah. You don't have to get out of the car. You have a right to stand there and obviously like. You can confirm everything but one can force you out. Yeah. Unless you feel completely safe you know. Like Ooh, that's why they have to tell you to get out of the car. They can't. Force it. Yeah. Well, and obviously like especially, if they're like a good solid cops, they're going to understand like, oh, she scared which we have every right to be especially as women which I will talk about this time blue in the face it's is not the same like women. You'll never understand unless you are a woman the scary pressures dot com with being alone being approached. By. A male like you have to think ahead because there's just so much that happens. So yeah, anyway. So all this to say you know obviously, you're going to do whatever tell you and you guys are probably panicking and just trying to figure out what to do but everyone who's listening I'm pretty sure there are things in place I would look it up. Don't trust give. Back to the story, act the story. So we got all of our courage turn on the lights in the house and unlocked the door. Just, then we heard a weird scratching on the other side of the front door. It wasn't the kind of scratching. You could hear from an animal it was a big scratch that went all the way from the top of the door. To the bottom. We screamed and locked the door again. We sat in front of the door and I grabbed a flower pot from the nearest able it was ready. That's me I'm like Bro I got my hydro fos whatever it can do least page. Then, all of the lights went out oh. Oh yes and I started to cry. was happening. I was about to open the door, but then I hear the music again. Me and my friend are hugging sobbing for awhile and we hear police sirens. So he unlocked the door and ran out one one officer came in the House and was expecting it inspecting it while we stayed outside with another cop telling him the whole story, but it doesn't end. We hear loud shouting from in the house. An outcomes the officer? With a tall man dressed as a clown. I hate this story was it. She said Yup like it clown. I God in the house in that with them. We'll get arthur sector. It's literally like US trying to be it. Yes. The COP who was talking to US stepped in front of us so he couldn't get to answer like see that. Much. I love. He did that. But as he was getting into the police car, he looked up at me and said, the baby is still in there. For I got shivers down my body. What was the baby I was so lost the cop told him to shut up, and after he was in the car, they drove away. But yes. This man dress says a clan was in my house watching us the whole time I will never again stay home our Halloween, and now I have a massive fear of clowns don't know honestly. Defied mine. Think, we all don't. Clown beer now and to this day I don't know what the baby is although sometimes I hear a baby laughing or crying. Let's that's for another time on your head girl. Off. Hope. You have a great day. Love Sara. Oh Sara. Many things. Understand, how this is like the third story in a row where some man has been in the house. Yeah and here's the thing like. I think. Obviously. These are the stories that are coming up because when you think of terrifying stories like this Ooh all of us go through like weird scares or like weird like whatever. But I think it's like. This I mean this is obviously like this was a demented person who I mean like those are all. Those are all like scary music whistling scratching the door like those are all. Really, trying to live out like I'm trying to scare them. And hopefully like he wouldn't have actually done anything I feel like if he would have he, he would've you know what I mean 'cause they came up and he obviously had away he was getting in and out of the House. I feel like actual. Terrifying people they're. They're not there for like the antics and Leah Ada like drawn out they're not trying to train like, yeah. There's a very rare crossover. Yeah. Usually the people that are this like almost like. Theatrical theatric. Yeah. are like just for I mean even his two babies in like he sounds like he was out of his mind. Okay and I we talked about this think last Halloween. But like that one guy that was in the Michael. Myers. Carsoup that was like following us one Halloween like I think some people get something out of other people person. So it makes sense if this guy was like you know maybe a back door something was open and he was like, Oh, I'm just going to mess with these girls but it's still like you can't frigging break into someone's house like so it's still like I'm sure he's in jail or a psych ward honestly. I just hate all of chills. Hate it shells height it. The clown costume was just like yet sherry onto. It was like Oh. This is scary. This is. Now, there's this own now. It's Much like that's not it's real. You know it's so scary. That's terrifying also Sarah. gave us the funny Doug Joke Dad Jokes I'll save that. Come. Out to a little trash looks calm down on a few. Okay. Says Why don't you want to go to a graveyard during Cova? Because of all the coffin Oh. That's Great that's really great. Very appropriate. Yes Thank you say obviously, we don't take over light where your mass protect yourself stay healthy. That is a great. Great, honor. That was really good. Thank you so much Sarah for sending this in in scaring the crap out of all of us. Okay. Guys as you guys know, the New Yorker is sponsoring this episode today we are big fans of the New Yorker. It's print and online and New Yorker stands apart for its commitment to truth and accuracy quality writing and compelling reporting and storytelling in a time where like turn and I aren't leaving the House that much. Think it's so important to stay connected to what's going on in the real world outdoors outside of our house, and this is a great way to do it whether it's politics that you're interested in or just whether or you're looking for some kind of entertainment outside of your house or just wondering what's trending today. The New Yorker is for you the new. 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My name is Emma and I'm a sophomore in high school. I've been listening to the podcast since the day Ashley announced on her Youtube Channel. That's like day one. Day One. Started Before I start I wanted to say how helpful and encouraging you guys are. You have helped me feel confident when I'm feeling insecure and you have given the best advice I could ever ask for. Love Walk in that Confidence Bay Strut yourself yes, go. Back to. Dr Story me and my brother were great friends with our neighbors. I was friends with their daughter and my brother was friends with their son. We would always run around the neighborhood and cause lots of trouble. But one day me and my brother were at their house and they started telling us about a reoccurring problem that they've been experiencing. Basically before their grandma had passed away, she had given them. These old anti dolls I'm out. Honestly. I don't need anymore I hate dollars five I I had my mom's aunt. So she was my great aunt a grandmother to me. She collect dolls to and tell me why they were all on the spare guest room where me and my sister always had to sleep that. Why was? I had a relic dolls. Doll Arkansas who like she showing us our house and there was an entire room like display cases they were on status. They were sitting i. was like, what? Why in now is the room I had to sleep in into and I was like had to sleep. Killing me literally would lay at night and stare at their faces and just cannot such a now. It's a grandma thing. Oh, these dolls were not just any old dolls they were like rag dolls they were very old and very creepy looking. What was even more strange was how the dolls would move. What do you mean move move To get into it, she put move. That's what do you mean food period You. I'M GONNA GET INTO For example, my friend would keep the dolls in her closet. One time she got up to use the restroom in when she came back to her room stop at. The dolls were in her bed. No No this is like a demented toy story and I, hate it I hate it. She told me the dolls would move around her room quite often. Oh, my God especially at night now a. What was even more scary was the fact that she would often hear faint laughing stop as sometimes screening. Almost, as if it were coming from the dolls I hate if at first my brother and I, thought nothing of it. We thought they were just joking around with us one day when we were at their house, she began to explain how the dolls were moving around her room the night before. At this point my brother and I both thought that it was her brother that was moving the dolls. We were convinced he was playing a prank on us. He explained that he was not joking at all and to be honest it was a little hard to take him seriously because we all play jokes on each other all the time. Boy who cried wolf you know. Yeah. We went back and forth for a bit but eventually grew bored of the conversation. We left the dolls in pile on the floor of her closet, shut the door and decided to ride our bikes around the neighborhood and get some fresh air. When we got back my friend said she was going to go to her room change into something a bit more comfortable. When she opened her dresser drawer. All of the dolls were lined up in a single file line freaking way delicately laying on top of her CLO- No. No I don't like the. chills. She screamed and ran down the stairs where me my brother and her brother were we all realize that this was not a prank? Each night for the next week she would tell us even more stories about the dolls in their movements and she continued to hear laughing throughout the night. We told her to just throw the dolls away, but her parents wouldn't let her because they came from her grandmother. has died by now. Yes. Grandma's GonNa, unfortunately, I was like, maybe grandma lost a little and was just like mess do. That, would be the. Grandma. Your grandkids. Funny. Oh. God. We all decided to pitch in and buy a cage so that she could put all. In there and get some sleep I'm assuming she didn't ex- explain more but I'm assuming like a pet like. Allocates. So that's what we did. She hit the key under her bed. When she woke up the next morning, she was surprised to see the cage door wide open what the heck and the dolls were in her bed. My God, I hate the story Hell No. Absolutely. No. She freaked out obviously and out of anger through the dolls away she told us and we all celebrated when we got back home from school that day we went to our house to hang out this time kidding wouldn't even entered their house I wouldn't have even gone there. It happened to be the same day where the traffic collected. So we were all pumped that those stupid dolls would finally be gone. We celebrated as we saw the their trash get lifted into the dumpster when they were leaving our house it was dark out and it was practically time to go to bed. They walked home. On already know I already know what they got ready for bed. But when my friend opened her covers to get into bed. All of the dolls lined up in her bed in a perfectly straight line. Glassy. At this point her parents got involved the family agreed to put the dolls in their attic her dad's chef the dog in the attic and locked the door. But to this day, the dolls are still in that attic and every once in a while she hears little girls laughing directly above her. I hope that the story was written well, enough I'm not a great writer so I'm so sorry. I know you've probably get hundreds of letters every day. So even the fact that you might read mine is super cool on its own I love you guys both and have a great spooky season love Emma. Oh God I. Kinda WanNa throw up and cry the. What's insane is the fact that Lake The fact. The fact that I kind of like hits home because. I think everyone has a grandma or an aunt or a great aunt or you know an older relative that has weird collections of. Dolls little trinkets and stuff like that, and this is always your worst fear growing up. So I don't know what was going on there but. Pray over your house. If. It was just the grandma trying to. Catch it'd be like. I love you and I'm still here. Now how what? She's It's almost like the. The dolls refused. To leave yeah well, and they wanted to be treated like humans like they wanted to be like instead and hydraulic taken care of on a pile on the floor I wonder if because they were thrown away like. We need to like. Cut this down like when they got moved to the addict they were like at least we're in our house I. Love Her. I Don I. Don't know. I don't have an answer for you per se but I I would just burned him like I wouldn't throw away I wouldn't give them away. I wouldn't do that to someone like give them away for someone else to deal with I would just burn on cars I drove up, destroy him burner. Know that necessarily believe in dolls coming to life. However. I do believe that fire kills everything. I do believe. So If it were me in that situation fired. Know. Fire, but I'll just leave that there. Maybe you can convince your parents if you know I'm not telling you to go against their wishes, but I would have an argument ready and I would say this is ridiculous if I can't sleep at night they gotta go. Yeah like, yeah like. Whether or not something horrifying is actually happening if you're losing sleep. They shouldn't be they should get rid of them maybe the guy from the first story also. In the attic and he? With the doll lasting with everyone. Clown frigging I hate this Gary Selamat clown now. Well. You guys are just like by the end of the series, we're just GONNA be shriveled up feared. Shells of human. Maybe all November. It can be strictly positive story. Ramos, butterflies. Of Cotton Candy. You guys are really I. Just WanNa. Take a moment to applaud you guys. You guys are really showing up. An amazing stories very well written, very descriptive and it is so fun for us to read I want to take a moment to. Really encourage you guys were still not over tearing and I have a very exciting announcement Oh, we do. Oh Yeah. We are officially doing about this episode we. This. Yeah this is our first bonus. We've never done a bonus. It's always on Mondays. We love our routine priority So we still have two more. Episodes for you guys to submit stories to this is not over if you know anyone with a great story or if you yourself have a great story and have been holding off if you think it has to be supernatural, it does not have to be it can be on any kind of scary story Please, send it in. This is your time. This is your moment to step up get creative, write your story ended and we want it. Yes. Yes. I can't Kimber also shout out, we have a youtube channel. We are recording this entire thing. 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What do you call too, which is sharing an apartment. Bust. I. Don't. Honestly. Almost more than the DA- jokes in general. I think my favorite part about this tradition is your guesses I mean, I try my best buy her when you'll just be like coffee. One word and I'm like how via Joe? Riches Brill may brim made the. Walmart. Okay. Why why? Why do you see so much hair when the Werewolf dropped his pants. What's got one. Because it was a full moon. Was Good. All right y'all well, stay safe out there. Hug Your friends and just tell yourself. It's not real. It's not real while you're at it. Get it. we love you guys so much. In the next episode. That's right. See you check us out on are you seriously? I have an says she has an so we both have youtube channels here. Have you uploaded recently? Skirt. nope. Noise call her out. Everyone go. We'll talk to you guys in the next episode ritual becoming Nick Yes. Okay. Love you. 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The Small Screen, Big Government Edition

The Promised Podcast

1:22:50 hr | 10 months ago

The Small Screen, Big Government Edition

"This is one. This episode may contain explicit language to the promised podcast brought to you on T. L. V. One voice the city celebrated this week by the Israeli embassy in New Delhi which tweeted quote. We honor Hashtag robbing drawn off Tagore today and every day as we named the street in Tel Aviv in memory of his valuable contribution to mankind and quote this above a photograph of the intersection of robbing drawn off Tha Gore Street and Hans Christian Andersen Street in Remote Aviv from Albert Einstein Street near the campus of Tel Aviv University. The embassies tweet was an homage to robbing runoff tug or the first Indian to win a Nobel Prize way back in nineteen thirteen for literature in the event. The tweet was tweeted on what would have been towards one hundred and fifty nine th birthday as the great man was born on May seventh eighteen sixty one. Robbing runoff. Tagore was a polymath poet. Essayist novelist philosopher playwright musician composer painter and political activists. He wrote both India's end Bangladesh's national anthems and one of his poems also inspired the national anthem of Sri Lanka Tagore was admired around the world. But he was especially beloved by the first generations of Zionism Palestine. He loved them back by nine. Hundred twenty two. Almost all of his many novels and books of poetry were translated to Hebrew. It was the great Hebrew and Yiddish. Modernist writer and translator Dove Eat Freshman. The man who brought to Hebrew the works of Nietzsche Pushkin Byron. George Eliot Shakespeare Oscar Wilde and Baudelaire. Who translated Tagore's great epic poem? The Gardner Tagore was the subject of tireless attention in the press in Jewish Palestine for decades in one thousand nine twenty three after it was announced that Gore would visit Palestine the editor of Harare Moshe Blixen wrote in his paper pay on to the man that he called robbing drawn tug or in the land of Israel the Prophet of the East in which he said that the Gore held the solution to the greatest challenge facing the Jews in Palestine. The problem of how to find a balance between the West they had left and the east they had made their home Tagore. The Prophet of the Goodson road new quote the secret of the project of our rebirth. The secret of our great reimplement and of our seeking to retie the cord that came undone and to renew the foundations of our lives as at an ancient spring and quote went to Gore got sick in Europe and in the end couldn't make his trip to Palestine the great literary critic and Turkish Immigrant to Palestine Lucian shoto published in Dora Yeoman. Israel's Daily Mail a mournful elegy over the pain the cancellation caused to him and so many others but Tagore's greatest admire in Jewish Palestine was a woman named Shula meet Flam who starting in one thousand nine hundred five wrote article after article in Haaretz about Tagore. This was not dispassionate. Journalism Flam adored Tagore and she spent nineteen twenty-three in India volunteering to work in schools to Gore. Had set up a position. She got by writing a letter to the Gore that read in part quote. I'm going to give you a little history of myself to give you an idea of what I've been doing. I was born in cove Lithuania. I studied and graduated in Germany Frankfurt on mine from High School in Nineteen Eleven. I was sent to Palestine Jerusalem by the Zionist Organization to organize kindergarten where I worked for eight years in one thousand nine eleven. I decided to study new educational methods different countries. On my way to American. I spent four months in Rome studying with Dr Maria Montessori. I took work in teachers. Training at Columbia University for a year and a half. I speak German Hebrew French Italian English and Russian not know your language yet but I hope to learn it and be able to use it for a reference and a recommendation consulted Dr Arthur routine Zionist organization Jerusalem and quote. It was when Tagore visited New York lecture at Rabbi. Stephen Wise Free Synagogue on West Sixty Eighth Street that I met him sleuthing out which New York hotel he was in. She wrote quote. Perhaps you remember this little incident in New York three girls a policy a Japanese and the Jewish girl from Palestine. Visiting you and your hotel. I've always cherished that incident and have recalled the conversation about East and West many times for readers of our. It's flounder scribe Tagore's delight at the trenches of books. She sent him about Zionism in Palestine. She recounted that he said it caused him. Great pleasure to know all of those of you who are hoping and struggling for such a great cause and quote flam founded a Jewish Arab Gore Friends Society the growth of which the Gore followed with satisfaction in one thousand thirty the socialist paper Davar published along transcript of quote unquote a discussion on truth and beauty between Gore and Einstein that took place at the physicists. Home Tagore argued that both beauty and truth where human categories not inherent characteristics of the natural world. Einstein agreed about beauty but insisted that truth is indifferent to its beholder. At the end of a half page of newsprint all verbatim the editors added only this quote in this way of the greats of our generation from East and from West pondered the matter that so many greats have so many generations have pondered. Truth is subjective or objective. End Quote all of which is why when the Tel Aviv Committee for memorializing personnages decided in nineteen sixty one on the hundredth anniversary of Tagore's birth to name a road in honor of Tagore in a newly built neighborhood west of the university. It was decided that the road should meet Einstein. Street back then. It could not be known that this intersection. The meeting of one of the greatest minds of Europe and one of the greatest minds of Asia would one day be the site of the Remote Aviv Mall where philosophical relatives and absolutists alike. Subjective and objective is like will surely agree that you can find your best brands. What with your flagship locations of Abercrombie and Fitch Kenneth Cole and Tommy Hilfiger to name just a few and arguably nothing captures the spirit of this city. We love so well Tel Aviv. Afo Better than translating decades of passion for a great man who symbolized for a certain generation of Zionism Palestine. There ache to transform themselves to leave behind these stoltifying philosophies they absorbed on the campuses of Europe and to open their souls and hearts two ways of being from the east ways there were at once old new and might they hoped. Help them remake themselves as better people with us in the studios as a woman. Who's writing combines beauty and truth so insistently so seamlessly that it somehow makes the whole question of absolutism relatives seen kind of beside the point. I speak of course of Alison. Catherine Summer Allison has written for politico the new republic foreign policy the Jerusalem Post the JT. A the forward many other of your best papers magazine. She is a columnist for our. It's you heard on. Npr PRI and the BBC and you see it on. I twenty four television zero TV. She holds Abraham World. Tenor Award for journalism. Recognizing excellence in reportage and they. Simon rocked our award for excellence and covering Zionism ally in Israel. Alison how you doing. So you're in show really raised a nostalgia factor in me because I miss spent my junior year abroad in Israel at Tel Aviv University. A lot of it onto Gordon Street Center in Nevada navene sitting in the Kaposi cafe I open was in an absorption center which is on Gore Street and Also you neglected to say that. I don't know if it's on the street itself but in the neighborhood where the apartments are both Yitzhak Rabin and And Shimon Peres. That's right yeah yeah so I don't know that's my. That's my trivial pursuit of the day. So there was a period when that little fancy Kabuki was considered like the nicest coffee shop in Tel Aviv cool. That's why I sat. You still are cool. Also with us in the studio. A man whose youthful vigor and deep rushing intelligence as emotion Lixin would surely agree renews the foundation of our lives as at an ancient spring. Obviously I'm talking about. Oh Hod zelter is would be the Ohio. Delta Zubieta reviews books for our. It's in the past. He hosted a weekly show on Halloween. Tv on arts and Culture in Israel and he is a political activist of Hot Passion Great Human Warmth and boundless cool. No doubt busting thermometers wherever he goes. Oh Hod how are you? I really miss the university. That just made me sad. All the Vive into Gore street. Hannity to get back. Really Saulius. One day. One day I started to see on facebook. The first photos of people beginning hang out on campus. Exactly going to sit on the grass in front of delman sweet. My Name is Oh Afrin I don't mean to boast but I had a clever ish thought while I was running on Friday morning and it made me Giggle so I- tap tap fat onto facebook on my phone when I got back home still sweating and it went a very little bit viral. What is not even rounding error for a Kardashian but for a brief moment it was being shared. Maybe like ten times a minute. So that every time I refreshed there was a new number which I found weirdly fascinating. So I- refreshed it. And then I refreshed it again and again until I was looking at the phone like narcissus staring into the pond. And then I'm saying to myself okay. For the next two hours you are not going to look at all but then. I'd look anyway and all this time. I'm just getting more. And more disgusted with myself and then a bunch of people steal my gag and they posted under their own name. And I'm like they're stealing my likes and shares because now apparently what I care about most is that strangers click on a little heart on their phone beneath joke that and only now. I'm beginning to see this clearly is kind of dumb and derivative anyway and by the time the thing is here seventy five hundred times I hate the gag but mostly I really hate myself and I don't want to Brag. That's not the way that I was raised. But all these people who shared my post. I'm pretty sure they really care about me as a person they do. Don't they today? We will discuss three topics of profound importance. But first we have a matter that we're following with alert interest in great concern as part of an occasional series. That we call quote the promise. Podcast ponders clowns and gowns turning. Frowns upside down all over town because truly were blessed that the best of our gestures won't rest in their quest to divest of stress and we got to express that well maybe we're partisan but those harlequins ain't charlatans end quote now. This is actually one of our more popular occasional series. You might be surprised. We are by now familiar with the day by day hero. Ix of nurses doctors. Emt's ambulance drivers pharmacists. And all the other folks who keep hospitals and clinics up and running there are not enough words of praise for those people still. It may be that not enough. Attention has yet been paid to those other health professionals medical clowns if this is so it's probably because more than two months ago. The hospital shifts have medical college were all cancelled because of the risk they might get cove in nineteen was just too high now. Israel is generally recognized as an international powerhouse in Medical Clowning University of offers an undergraduate degree in it and the foreign ministry hosts international congresses to transfer clowning technology to medical administrators from all around the world especially the developing world and teach them has set up counting programs in their own countries when the IDF set up emergency field hospitals in disaster areas around the world their first aid staff includes medical clowns. Obviously we came there sometime after the tsunami so we so obviously we met with kids that lost Not only their houses in their villages but actually lost Tom. Family members parents and thanks to the methods and techniques of medical clowning. How they were able to play with this terrible disaster how they were able to play with these hard memories and to turn them into a game and to turn them into something created which history only made it. More painfully ironic that when the pandemic started medical clowns could no longer go to the hospitals at the time when sick folks especially kids needed them the most which is why on the day. They learned they would need to leave the hospital. Two very young but already beloved leaders in the clowning community nineteen year old. May Zohar and twenty two year old. Divide Ben Porat put out word that they were organizing many clowns as they could find who are willing to do what they do for free. Not just people have gotten sick. But for anyone smarting from stress or in need of a pick me up and locked down or whatever and the response in the clown community was well total in day. Hundreds of clowns signed up hebrew-speaking clowns arabic-speaking clowns French English Russian. I'm heart speaking. Clowns Harry clowns modern Orthodox clown secular clowns straight clowns and gay clowns octogenarian clowns and teenage clowns. An organization was born called late. Sahni me they'll come a laugh. Your medical clowns are fighting for smiles. The group has a WHATSAPP group in a facebook group. You can write to either one and within hours off minutes a clown in makeup and character with rubber chickens and such will facetime you or your kids if you want a clown to wish your shirt a happy anniversary in lockdown. They'll do it. Maybe improvising a song about your love and by the way if you are in need of clown but not up to date on social media you can call me top. Zohar directly on her mobile phone at zero five five nine four one eight three four six one of the town's lately run ragged is forty nine year old. Honey Mashi Yona who lives in hyphen. Who's gnome the Nez Rouge is toffee? The medical clown Hani Masha. Yona is a hundred feet. Mother of eight to kids have down syndrome and lately one of those two has taken the clowning on. What's up with her mom in little toffee costume? That honey so for her demand for the two especially among quarantine people with Down Syndrome has lately kept both of them on the video. Chat for hours and hours a day quote it creates a great deal of happiness and quote mushy. Yona says people now today three topics topic one big government as later today as we record prime minister. Netanyahu will present his new government which will be the largest in Israel's history with something like thirty six ministers precise number might still change. It is twenty percent bigger than Israel's formerly biggest ever government almost twice as big as the average size government and three times as big as Israel's first government we've been poring over the list of ministers and we'll try to put our finger on the important things we learn from it topic to court. Tv As last week. Supreme Court hearing over whether or not Prime Minister Netanyahu's fit to form a government given that he's about to go on trial for bribery. Fraud and breach of trust was only the third hearing. Israel's history to be broadcast on TV but according to Chief Justice Esther how youth that is about to change as the court is henceforth broadcasting as many as one hearing a month so curious citizens can learn firsthand. How the highest court in the land works. This is an about face for this court which is always but always opposed the crass exposure of the small screen. So what changed and is changed for the better end topic? Three God TV. As a new evangelical owned and operated Hebrew language cable channel called Chalan new hours aims to quote reveal Jesus the Messiah to Jews in their own tongue. What a day of rejoicing. That will be end quote. Folks here be apoplectic because it turns out. They don't want Jesus in their hearts and the outgoing Minister of Communication strengthens to shutter the channel but shouldn't a free market ideas have room for a Hebrew language approving take on the son of God here in Israel his old stomping grounds and for most unreasonably generous Patriots borders in our extra special special extra segment? We'll discuss following an article by Alison than what it is like to have loved ones living in us. Covert LOTS AS ISRAEL OPENS. Backup for business and the mood. Here is one of relief and cautious celebration. I'm quoting Alison there. But before we get to any of that to listen to this Jew long a you but now I found do That is open road by Peru. A band of teenagers from stable care. Who have it going on? We'll be listening to over the course of the hour. And now it's time for discussion. So allison a government a government. What's the government I don't really remember? What government is. It is five hundred five days since we last the government. Wow that's long so yes yesterday. Prime Minister Benjamin. Netanyahu formally informed President Reuven Rivlin and Knesset Speaker Bennigan's that he had succeeded in forming a government and tonight. Israel's thirty fifth government if you're counting keeping track because the government. Just keep mounting and mounting It will be sworn into night. We sank at ten freaking p. m. which knowing Israel would be postponed until midnight which some people are hinting. The late time is giving Netanyahu in excuse if he wants to keep negotiating for a better deal over the weekend that he might postpone until Sunday. So nothing warms. Noah's heart better than news breaking immediately after the podcast records. Why they can't do anything important in this government at normal hours? I do not know always on Thursday always on Thursday. All the corona decisions are made overnight. Anyway we know sort of kind of mostly not entirely who will be minister of what though there's still an element of inane over till the Fat Lady Sings and she may be humming but she hasn't sung yet? One thing we do know is that this will be biggest government in the country's history in the sense of having the most ministers there will be we think as of now thirty six ministers double high. Thirty six is twice eighteen or high the numerous logical representations of life those of us who got an annual birthday check from their grandma in amount of thirty six dollars. No this seriously it's a meaningful number also because there is an old tradition that goes back to the Talmud featured in many Hasidic Tales. Saying that at any moment there are thirty. Six righteous people hidden in the world for whose SAKE CREATION CONTINUES WHILE. I kinda doubt that our ministers are the numbers. Still a good side dishes right so they put the number in perspective. Israel's first government in nineteen forty nine had count them twelve ministers after that the number meandered up and down but pretty much drifted up and up and up the average of all the governments is just under twenty ministers. I think we have twenty two today right. The previous high was thirty ministers in two thousand nine Lasting until two thousand thirteen so no matter how you slice it is one big government. Everyone gained weight over Corona virus period. Right why shouldn't the government So mostly that goes to the fact that we have this parrot headed government. Meaning that the right and the kind of well sort of center. Each get. An equal number of government ministries. This created a problem for prime minister. Netanyahu has right wing coalition partners to keep happy plus people within his own party so he and deputy prime minister. Bennigan's said okay let's make up some ministries create a lot of jobs so that we can Make everyone happy. And we'll go into our government. The result is pretty complicated Going over the list of who is probably going to be minister of what creates all kinds of interesting thoughts and reactions. The list is literally too long to go over. Point by point right now. And they are still in flux. They negotiate in this last minute poker game but There are some overall things worth discussing like the fact that fewer in one in five ministers and probably more like one in eight will be women except though it looks like at the last minute they are conjuring up ministry for Orly Levy. Becca sees A former Israel by lawmakers who ran her Gesher Party with a left wing alliance in the last election she signed a coalition agreement with Likud. And they say this morning. Levy of Isis will head the newly minted ministry for Community Empowerment and advancement very specific. A lot of the ministry is being carved out from the Public Security Ministry which runs the police. We will literally have a good cop and bad cop so also among the appointees from the quote Unquote Center only one Labor head. Amir parents has even a tiny bit of experience in the executive branch on the right every single one of them has been a minister before and even though housing is the most pressing problem facing the ultra-orthodox. This is the first time in history. We're going to have an ultra Orthodox Minister of housing for better or for worse with Minister. Yakov Lipson who's moving over from the Corona Ridden Health Ministry and Likud's big culture warrior. Miri Regev will now. Head the Ministry of Transportation. It looks like which could be citadel from which to pour hot lead down upon the heads of the Nasty LEFTISTS OF TEL AVIV. Who are heavily dependent on public transportation. So there's a lot of complex stuff here to discuss. We can't cover it all. So let's just each describe a couple of things that we think are crucially important to notice or interesting to US personally and what we're keeping an eye on the new government. Ohad what jumps out at you. Who are your favorite and least favorite Appointments Likely Appointments? And what are you gonNA be watching and expecting from this government? So I'll start with a bad and then go onto the good Maybe the two worst appointments that jump out to me immediately are inside cats in the finance ministry Why God knows it. Cochran had his issues and his problems but at least he had a social or not like we like to call it in Israel flare. He had all kinds of programs that were supposed to help. Young families buy houses. I mean He. He wasn't a very good finance minister but he wasn't very very bad. I mean He. He had like a certain inkling for social issues and justice in Sil- cards on on the other hand as I. It is an ultra liberal. I mean he's part of of of the liberal you know hard right free market faction of the Likud and that kind of scares me Walking into the Finance Ministry right. Now we're in the middle of the Economic Crisis Post Corona And I don't know how much of of an ear he has for social justice issues and and and and and the things that we need right now I mean people are have lost. Their jobs people are people are are on the verge of going hungry. I mean we a person who knows how to distribute wealthy or a person who feels like fair wealth distribution is important on the top of his interesting that you say that because I think that his tenure in the Department of Transportation in the Ministry of Transportation which about which I have very mixed feelings was interesting precisely because it did it was characterized by an a really vast increase in concern for people that had been under served in the past so that they're they like a huge program of getting buses to every Arab village so that particularly Arab women could go to work which was a problem. They didn't have a way to get to work and making sure that the trains go to the far periphery of the country. Which I actually think environmentally Wa- is kind of a mistake bus. It's should work fine but his point is if you live in Kiryat Shmona. You deserve to be able to get to the center of the country in an hour and a half and not to have have it take all day and he was very in favor of spending tons of government money on transportation. Well I think you know you're right. Those are things that he did but but alongside them. He also put a lot of money. You know an inter passes and and building new roads and these things you don't do you want people buy cars because cars make a lot of money for the government in Israel and and I. It's true he did. He did in his long ten year. Tenure in in the ministry did do good things as well but I still think that he he's much more you know liberal leaning person I think is being the Ministry of Finance will bring that out of him in a in a much much larger way. The second the second appointment that I am scared shitless needle in In the public security in the Public Security Ministry Besides the fact that Middle Hana was was an interrogator in the military police and then in the Shebek for years he's known for his hardline right wing positions on on. Security and privacy and another thing that scares me in a big way that middle. Hannah is a big is a big lover of people with guns of with no licenses Touting guns and God knows that we have enough guns here in Israel and and God also that what more men mostly walking around with guns means which is more dead women and more people getting shot in the street and and that's something. I'm really serious. Scared of I think this is even a feminist issue more than anything else. We know that that men walking around with guns Just just leads to more more of their wives in girlfriends being shot for those who don't follow the super closely and why should you. Americana founded the LGBTQ section of the Likud and he is known for being the the first out minister and the first out member of the Likud Who member of Knesset from the Likud? And so we. Everyone always has expectations of him. That somehow he's going to not be like a com- of militarist whatever but he is very very always ends up that that He's worse than the up. Sorry in the Ministry of Public Security Police. Whatever it's called can do more damage to our nation than he's done in the Justice Ministry. I think that the Justice Ministry was from the start was supposed to be like A band-aid short term short term thing for him. You know I don't think it was. I don't I don't think anybody thought that he would continue in the year though. Yeah that's in hockey. They have these guys who they send just to make. Just start fights. Yeah I think that's exactly him. He was tending to the Justice Ministry to Piss people off the start fights to fire people and knowing that he be known to be a BB loyalist. That's why he sent him to the Ministry of Justice I'll quickly talk about two good appointments that I'm actually kind of happy about or or at least carefully optimistic. About the first one is muted. I give in transportation. I think following up on her continuous as culture minister aware she had a lot of room to a hustle and bustle and make make make. Shit I I think that that. The Ministry of Transportation is a much less controversial and explosive ministry. Where eggers managerial and organizational prowess will shine? I think that she she. She's a good lawmaker. I think she's a good organization or organizer. I think she's a good manager and I think Sh- she'll she'll she'll do good work in transportation ministry especially after you know what I feel as being a very problematic tenure by psychot- say I hope that you'll be able to solve some of the problems that he created and another one and this is probably a very unpopular opinion. I don't know if in this room or or in this country is Yuk of leads men in In construction housing I think can show I think construction and housing is probably one of the worst and most underfunded and in a not not properly working ministries. We have in the country and I think that yuck policeman being the problematic health minister he was in his last final years. I think in in his first years he brought in policies. That were sectorial completely. Sectorial that we're supposed to help his sector but on the way helped lots of lots of poor people Dental free dental care for for kids under under thirteen or ten. He brought in a lot of policies. That were very helpful to underprivileged people and and of course for to his constituency but but then now. I think that him coming into the public and the construction and Housing Ministry. I very much hope that he would besides building neighborhoods for Clinton will also promote public housing. And I think that that could really really help lots of poor people who aren't just telling him and and about him. I actually agree with you entirely about all that though. You always have to add the asteroid with him that his role in keeping Malka. Lifer of being deported to Australia for me ought to completely prohibit him from being involved in Israeli politics. Yes and when you you know you say that all kids can get dental care. You can't say only ultra-orthodox kids can get. Dental care has to apply to all kids but still when you're building housing because of the the way that things work around here you can designate in a blatant and on blatant ways housing that is going only to one population and not to another. And that's why I'm not You know blowing any fanfare about him getting the Housing Minister the thing is we have so little in such bad public housing in Israel that I feel like any kind of movement in the direction of more public housing would probably benefit people who are not only hugged him. I hope I'm carefully optimistic. Lost from his tenure in in the Health Ministry. I really find no sign that he was just out to help. Hurry Demon couldn't help but help other people I think he was genuinely concerned about poor people. I think he was genuinely concerned about Palestinian citizens of Israel because he saw them as being as being somehow mistreated in the way that ultra Orthodox are so so i. I'm not entirely sure he won't take a broader wrong. So what else do you see in this list? Alison the one. I'm looking carefully at because I still do. Have a kid in In tenth grade is the Education Ministry. Which is the one. That's kind of most up in the air right now because it looks like for whatever reason Netanyahu is keeping it in his pocket. There was a lot of talk about Yuli Edelstein getting it which actually had made me very happy. we've gone from Ended up being health minister. He was offered the Health Ministry. We've gone from Naphtali Bennett to Rafi Parrots. I would really love to see somebody who is not a national religious ideolog in that In that ministry. And you know who who would Defer to very pragmatic solutions. I would love to see someone boring like you've Elstein. It's in that In that Job Elstein with Dr. You've taught philosophy. Edison time was Kinda boring enough for me but Steinem says I just want. I want someone who wants to make the education system work. Who's going to be focusing on that? And not on any kind of like you know whatever values education and we want IT TO BE MORE ZION. Semi One blessing. Steiner's wouldn't I? I have a know I've said before the PODCAST. Yuval and I went to graduate school together. I three translated one of his books. Were friends boring. No He. The thing about him is. I know that that especially like in my circles. It's easy you. It's considered completely unacceptable to like him. I really do like him but I also. He is actually super creative. He's like all about out of the box. Frankly also philosophically he was but then he's he's I think he would be a spectacular minister of education first of all because he's deeply committed to secular Zionism. Wouldn't have that Sanford at religious stuff but he's not he's not anti religious and he really believes in education in some deep way he really believes in philosophy. He thinks that everyone at at the age of five should be reading. Plato which probably will what happened but you want but somebody who actually believes that the stuff you that stuff a kid reads and thinks matters could be really good and you should see him with his kids. He's unbelievable just the serious when they were kids. Now they're already in their twenty but then when they were little kids the seriousness with which he talked them talk to them and listen to them and was eager to understand how they saw the world. I'm in favor for now. I know this. I want him as Minister of education even more and so that he will appoint Noah Ephron too a high level position in the education about you know. Do you have any favorites. The the thing about women stands out obviously and we knew that this was coming. We knew that like once blue and white for some reason decided that it was just going to be boys club then than it was clear that this was going to happen. I'm a little bit surprised. I guess I didn't notice the degree to which the same thing is true in the Likud that they're really very very few women so that That stands out one of the things that really stands out for me that that worries me. Is that of the people on the Center. Left to our in this coalition. Only one has ever been a minister before. And that's your parents from the The Labor Party. No one else ever has and these guys have an enormous amount of power actually in ways that we often don't see and rarely talk about you know to move budgets around than to decide priorities in a good way and they they work with these you'd staffs and people that know how to use that how to work this system Managed to do all sorts of things many many things that are good and things that we also disagree with and people that don't don't and I feel like like just by virtue of the people in the Likud having been in government for so long knowing how government works and having been minister is before they're just going to be in general much more effective the only the only happily the only exception that I see that as Avi Niessen corn is going to be the minister of Justice and he was the head of the said route. Which is just like a self Samir as well which which. He was deputy mayor of Tel Aviv. Which isn't like being a minister but he did have a big staff and he did have big budgets and he he. You Know He. He was in an executive position in a publish sort of. I wish him the best if he he's fighting right now as we speak to get the Ministry of Tourism that people are competing for it. Can I just say one thing about the woman thing? And that you know I did a big interview with Mickey High Mortgage About how. She's so excited about being minister of the environment if gaskets and Blah Blah Blah and like even from the first second that this this bb Ganz partnership was Was announced it was like not even considered for a second that she was going to get that ministry which there was a huge thing in the campaign a and B. She's was the highest ranked woman on the blue and white lists and a against loyalist. And why she's not on the shortlist for ministry is kind of is kind of concerning and instead they've been talking about Omer Yankelovic getting the Diaspora Affairs Ministry when in mid campaign? There was this big leak about her. Right trashing dances leadership qualities which is so if she's a minister and `Heimlich's an that's very weird just too much of a left for them. I think that's what they're scared about. I think I think that the lake was is like a kind of person that the Likud would have a problem with because he's such a left. Maybe I mean I get why. Maybe he doesn't want someone from there. Be I mean. In the in the Environment Ministry because of the gas deals etcetera but the the way that diaspora fares is like the booby prize of ministries is really shows like what this country and the leadership thinks of the diaspora and that kind of bothers me on a certain level Yeah the the The last thing that I'd like to say that I'm really delighted that our new minister of Ali and absorption is going to be Is going to be commodity shot. Shutout who she? She grew up in the suburbs of Gondar. I mean she she ju- really is an immigrant herself and she's the first the Ethiopian Minister of anything. And she's obviously the first few opium woman minister of anything and that's just a beautiful thing to see and she's really cool. She's really cool. Now listen to this the head. I'm joking okay. That's it's plastic feelings by F- Rube and now it's time for our next discussion hod. Tv is great right and the Supreme Court. Well it's supreme. So should those two excellent things go together? Excellently Supreme TV when the Movement for Quality Government in Israel petitioned the Supreme Court last week to prevent Prime Minister Netanyahu from forming a new government unsuccessfully as it turns out on the grounds that he's about to go on trial for bribery fraud and breach of trust. Chief justice still surprised most everyone by allowing the hearings to be broadcast live and in their entirety on the tube. This was a surprise because the last time a supreme court hearing was televised was way back in two thousand fourteen when the court considered a petition to eliminate mandatory retirement at sixty seven the time before that when the court allowed to hearing to be broadcast was in nineteen eighty six twenty eight years earlier when John manioc successfully appealed his conviction for Nazi war crimes and the time before that well. There wasn't a time before that out of vitamins. Nine hundred and sixty one trial. Jerusalem was broadcast on the radio and as you walk through the streets of Tel Aviv. Back then you could hear it seeping through every window frame but courts on TV. That has now happened precisely three times in all of Jewish history since the world was created. Five thousand seven hundred eighty years ago. That's a long time. Yeah yeah fight me if you don't think so But according to Chief Justice that number is about to go up quickly. It must be said that the idea of broadcasting last week's hearing was not hers came instead from the Financial Newspaper Globes which formally petitioned the court to do so. What's more the costs? And benefits of putting the deliberations of the highest court in the land on the television have been debated here since two thousand and four still high. It was the one who decided that the idea is a good one. She embraced it responding to the Globes petition. She wrote quote the court system always to fulfill the principle that court hearings should be accessible to the public. This is so enormous times and also under the constraints made necessary by the emergency situation and in accordance with the guidelines of the Ministry of Health and quote which is a stiff judicial way of saying the Supreme Court serves the people and its hearings are open to the public in these corona time. When many people can't make the trip to the courts let's bring the courts to folks living rooms over the Internet and the boob tube further. You'd said that she sees last week's hearing as the beginning of a pilot program and that she hopes to allow the broadcast of something like ten trials a year almost immediately. A call came from many quarters to broadcast the prime minister's corruption trial which is scheduled to begin on May twenty fourth but that will take place in a Jerusalem District Court and district courts as yet have never broadcast hearing. Netanyahu cases will likely reach the Supreme Court but that won't be for several years but the High Court will no doubt hear lots of cases that matter a great deal before then cases that affect how the government operates as well as practically every other institution that matters. Schools Prisons Hospitals Social Services Employers and labor unions and much more which raises the question. Are we better off? If the deliberations behind these decisions are available to be seen on a screen in our living room. I mean at first. It seems obvious that we are better off but there are many reasons for the courts longstanding reticence to broadcast their hearings many argue that the decision to broadcast. Knesset hearings on TV which began on cable TV way. Back in one thousand nine hundred. Five have led to a rise among members of the populist jockeying to produce face bookable sound bites and video clips thereby diminishing the seriousness of political debate and the willingness of case to compromise in order to pass legislation as also. Support your bill in exchange for you supporting. My bill is definitely not video. Genyk. Who's to say that broadcasting? The courts won't lead lawyers and judges both to preen and grandstand for the cameras. So guys that's our question at the most simplistic level there's something democratizing about televising Supreme Court hearings. The more the better. But we've learned this kind of democratizing can sometimes have the paradoxical effect of making crucial institutions less effective and less if we can use old-fashioned ocean wise taking all this into account. Is it a good thing to put the Supreme Court on? Tv should all the hearings of the Supreme Court be on TV? Allison well it's kind of crazy right to ask a journalist. Oh should probably accessible or no hidden. Mickey no definitely okay. Putting aside the the professional thing while in a way you know kind of it's been good for journalists when when only the journalists could be in the only way people could see these proceedings would be through the eyes of the Journal which is basically how West because there's a very limited number of teachers like forty seats and it was mostly filled by journalists. Yeah so we're having these kinds of breakthroughs also in the US by the way where they're not televising them but the audio everyone's Able to listen ABS- I say absolutely one hundred percent and particularly now and there's all kinds of like awful conspiracy theorizing demonizing of Blah Blah Blah That the that the court is terrible force for wrong. Let everybody see here for themselves. These are human beings in the proceedings can be whatever long boring but but No one will be you know imagining the sort of like cabal imagery and You know he did a lot for the PR of the Supreme Court to when Esther referred to A reality television show right in the in the In the Netanyahu hearing she said you know is the slight got marriage at first sight. Everyone thought it was really funny And then another Justice or the the attorney right said No. It's not really like marriage at first sight. It's more like survivor. So you know brought it down to level I'm you know again professionally bias but But completely for it I in the past would have completely said I have no question about it. Yes make everything as completely public as possible. And it's only lately in the I mean lately I guess in the the Fake News Post Truth era that we live in that. I've sort of begun to be uncertain about it like I. I watched a lot of the hearing two weeks ago last week. Whatever it was and it was fascinating and I. I found that impressive at the one time it made. The judges seem more human than I thought I mean they they. They made mistakes and they made jokes and they they And they they been hard sometimes when they spoke though they were capable of speaking soaring Lee and beautifully in full in full paragraphs Off the top of their head as well it both made them seem human and made them seem like very special sorts of humans at the same time and all of that seemed good all of that teams just to to increase the The CACHET and the authority of the courts in a way that I think is good but I'm not at all sure that it's GonNa continue that way on TV. I think that that lawyers GONNA learn how to make judges seem dumb and seem Venal when it serves them including when it serves their political purposes and the High Court is so political all the time so it worries me to think that okay. We've now open this new venue then right now. There's some there's some team of PR people thinking. How do we use this to advance our our political aims? So the great conundrum of our ages like how is it that the increasing democratization of the last forty years has led to everything falling apart? And I'm not an I'm not one percent sure that this isn't like another step on the way that having the courts fall apart but I can't oppose it but I'm nervous about it but I I agree I I I think your fears are are legitimate. I mean I feel them too. But on the other hand I do think that there is a fundamental difference between the Knesset. And what happened with Knesset? Tv which is like the best show in town sometimes and the Supreme Court. I feel like maybe. That's even what I liked most about watching the televised televised hearings. I mean it was. The most educated level-headed professional fundamental conversation. I have heard about our current political situation in a long time and I think that there's something about the way court proceedings in court hearings. Work that you know if a lawyer would would come up and just talk stupid shit. Then he'll he'll get shut down really fast like lawyers worship down in these hearings like we saw people started saying things that sounded more like populists things or more for the cameras and still shut them down and like five seconds. You just made them look really stupid exceedingly stupid and I think lawyers understand that if they come to the Supreme Court for the cameras and then they're probably lose their cases because he's a really like serious professionals. I mean they inc like their memories incredible. They're they're they're so precise I feel like there's like it's like a kind of even like an antidote to to this fake news. Aero or this you know this crazy you know everybody yelling at each other. You're What do you think now absolutely I? It's bad we all. We all agree. Somebody's what if this is terrible? I'm not entirely sure that I agree. I think a Supreme Court proceeding could turn into like more of Knesset hearing or or like reality. Tv Show than like a court proceeding. If there are cameras in there I for years I wouldn't say it that broadly but I do think that what we're going to see are people who live in how to make use of being onscreen to undermine the authority of the courts in certain cases or to advance their their political aims. People are very very brilliant at learning how to use media to communicate and the judges are never going to be as sharp as the people coming to them. They're not going to be as young. They're not going to be as experienced in the media. They're not going to be as connected. They're not gonNA be as willing to to mess around with their reputations So I do think that maybe at first but you know I don't think over time it was. It would necessarily stay that way. I mean maybe over certain. Very like hot cases What do you think of the American compromise of putting the audio out there? Not the video than it wouldn't have that star quality thing I. I would have very few no concerns about that. I mean I think that audio has a very different feel and it's and it's much harder to It's much harder to be populists successfully. Though tell that to Adolf Hitler he sees radio nicely. Feel but I don't think you can do that very much anymore. Maybe I'm not. You know in the end if I had to like if we were having some plebiscite and we were voting. I would vote in favor of it but but I'm not at all sure that ten years from now we're not GonNa say oh that that was one of the things that caused the the Supreme Court which remains for all that has been attacked over the last decade remains the most trusted and valued institution in Israel poll after poll shows that eighty percent of Israelis of all sorts of Jewish and an Arab and and ultra-orthodox trust the Supreme Court. I'm not sure that that were. This isn't going to be part of that number going drastically down but I guess we'll we'll talk about in ten years now. Listen to this John Psalm. Those a on that's is empty fi frucht from stable care. And now it's time for our discussion which we are calling God TV. And here's why Ward Simpson. The barbados-born Pensacola Florida based CEO of a worldwide delicate media. Network named God TV recently posted to this. If you've not already heard God TV has been given the government permission to Broadcast The Gospel of Jesus Christ issue of the Messiah in Israel on Cable Television in the Hebrew language. Never before as far as we know in the history of the world has this ever been done. God has super naturally. Open the door for us to take the gospel of Jesus into the homes and lives and hearts of his Jewish people. And we're saying to. The Jewish people is that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah. We've signed a seven year contract. This is historic. It is supernatural and prophetic Francino. They're nine million people in Israel that need to hear the gospel of Jesus there of nine million Jews many of them dying every day without Jesus. They'll watch secretly. They'll watch quietly and friends when Holy Spirit begins the how're and begins to come through that. Tv screen and men and women are sitting there those same ones that spat the name of Jesus when they're sitting there and the Holy Spirit begins to work in their lives and their hearts and begins to reveal. Jesus Messiah to them in their own. A what a day of rejoicing. That will be God is restoring. His people got US removing the blinders from their ice through chalet. No TV now. The story behind that story is this by the way I should say. We all have our own gods and it's worth noting that this story was sprung and it was doggedly followed by one of my Gods Judy Maltsev hearts if you have hot cable. Tv AND YOU FLIP TO CHANNEL. One Eighty two. You'll be tuned into Solano. The Hebrew language aimed at Israelis mostly Jews local station. God TV now. Solano has lately as you heard from that clip received seven-year licensed operate from Israel's Cable and Satellite Broadcasts Council a regulatory body managed by the Ministry of Communications as Simpson explained in the video. Which by the way has lately been taken down? But it's preserve on the arts YouTube channel and other places. The point of the Hebrew language programming is to persuade Israeli Jews and to a lesser degree. Muslims that Jesus died for their sins and is their Messiah and Savior now. Since Judy Maltz began reporting on the station the Cable and Satellite Broadcasts Council has expressed regret about approving Chalan. Oh Gosh beaten. The Council chair wrote this to the hot cable company quote in the application. It was said that the channel is geared toward the Christian population while in fact it appears that the channel seeks to address Jews and to persuade them that Jesus is the Messiah and they can believe that and still remain Jews. This is fundamentally different and had such things been known in advance. Our treatment of this application to approve broadcast of this channel would have been different and quote. The Shot Be Tone Road. Is that the license can be revoked. And he's not the only one who's mad minister of communications the outgoing Minister of communications duty. I'm Salam tweeted quote. We will not allow any missionary channel to operate in the state of Israel. Anytime under any circumstances end quote. What's more even some of those Israelis with the warmest and deepest ties to the pro? Zionist evangelicals are angry rabbi tuli fights the Orthodox head of Israel three sixty five in organization that aims quote to connect Christians and the land and people of Israel each and every day of the year end quote and to encourage them to quote. Bless the families living in the Holy Land and contribute to feeding needy Israelis and Holocaust survivors and planting multitudes of trees to beautify the land and help bring prophecy to life end quote. He said that both the blatant come to Jesus message of Chilanga quote shatters. The faith of people like me who had hoped that we were making a difference in Jewish Christian relations unquote in response to the criticism ward. Simpson posted another video explaining that the station does not break any of Israel's laws against material incentives to change one spiritual beliefs and against the proselytizing to minors quote we just preach and teach and share Christian content and let the Lord do the rest and as far as brothers and sisters go. They don't convert. They continue to live their lives as Jews. End Quote writing in Arts Jewish News Syndicate editor in chief and contributing writer for the National Review. Jonathan Tobin argued that quote if Jews whether they are settlers are liberals are genuinely alarmed about Christians. He can converts they should compete against them in a free market of ideas rather than this fume about the sinister nature of Michigan Izing and quote which frankly seems right to me but what do you think Alison. How would you feel if you walked in on one of your kids? Flopped on the SOFA watching TV and learning about how Jesus died for Hertson's well it's all comparative with. I feel. It was worse than them watching like too hot to handle on net flicks you know where like scantily clad people you know each other or try not to be to their friends became a to handle First of all like I don't think it's like super appealing Content for them You know I I definitely think that there should be limitations on the the offering money for proselytizing and also for For children but but but and this is my so called big but and you cannot cannot lie it needs to be applied across the board. Because I don't want to abide to do it either. I don't care if you know I don't. I don't think it should be applied to any kind of religious proselytizing not to children non in exchange for For the big bucks so I can't say that I object to the rules but I want the rules to be To be equally applied if that if that makes any sense and unclear whether they're breaking any of the rules right now well because presumably the kids can tune into the TV. So that is you know that is. It's accessible to kids. I see I feel like that's the clause like any thirteen claim is that they're not actually proselytizing. They're not trying to make you not be Jewish. So they're just trying to make you believe in. Jesus yeah well that's the whole Messianic Jewish actually my perspective in this. I'll let you guys react. My perspective in this changed a little bit when I visited a Messianic Jewish community in It was located in juicy minds. Blanking in the in the drew city in the north. It'll come to me in a minute Who was just like Super Sweet? People You know there was a mix of Russians and Anglo Saxons and a lot of them were Diaster juice who had made all the WHO were did believe in the Messiah in addition to being highly Jewish highly Zionist. And all of that and they were kind of like the secret community in hiding and scared of being caught and scared being kicked out of the country and so I got a little bit like mom. Freedom of religion freedom of thought freedom of belief about it. Um So it's It's very tricky and I think that some of the rules. That seemed made more sense. I guess when Israel was a more smaller and smaller in invulnerable more vulnerable nation. You know and we were more scared about. Oh No you know these wealth evangelical coming in in droves and converting anybody. You know maybe a little bit obsolete. I'm not sure go ahead. We'll because I'm known to be a very professional and serious podcast. Her reputation I I sat my ass down on the couch and and I watched some of Chalon New TV. And what did you say you're it was really a really interesting exhibitions I couldn't really understand what the first show was about. Even though I watched it for like a good good ten fifteen minutes and I think that says a lot about what I was watching that I couldn't really understand what it was about. Was it historical scenes that were supposed to be a reenactment of some kind of historical thing there were Romans and there were there were Jews and jesuits probably pushing it was weird Jesuits I was confused. And then and then there were interviews about that and then I turned it on a few hours later because I just can watch that show anymore and there was like a seventy year old lady on Chilled Boulevard. Giving a sink about how one night stands are dangerous for your soul in Hebrew But I think that maybe the most insightful thing that I gained from from doing my homework was that they're lake a few religious hot one after the other and I flipped down one channel to the other local channel which seems to be operated from from Africa. I don't exactly I know it's called Angel TV Mala Maliki for years. We've had these channels in English from over new offense that wasn't it wasn't Hebrew and it seems like the big thing with Chalan is that they are now doing it in Hebrew which means from Israel. Yeah which has. It's it's geared towards an his like Jewish crowd but I flipped down one channel and the other Evangelical Channel was a giving his evangelical sermon and there was an Israeli guy standing next to him and simaltaneously translating into Hebrew and he was like he was speaking in. The I. Like I be Goofy Sean. To our brothers in English and no in Hebrew he was thinking and we translate a translator. Yeah thank you so much for sending us. Your testimony is about how Jesus touched you live. I think the difference is that those stations claim that they are speaking to Christian Israelis. So you think that but I think the thing might January speaking in Arabic? Yeah but But it could also I mean that's the claim and here here were Simpson is very very straightforward about his intentions. Which is he wants to persuade. People Jews to accept Jesus into their hearts not just us but mostly Jews and there's something about missionaries that I love I I like missionaries are in a way like the most respectful people because they have this belief like when when he says there are Jews dying every day here in Israel. He doesn't fully unpack that but it's clear what he means is there are Jews who are damned for all eternity by virtue of mistakenly allowing themselves to die before they accept Jesus into their heart and it bothers him which I think is a little bit beautiful now. I understand. The history of Michigan. Izing is a bad history and that you know people have been burned on the stake and people have been be you know. All sorts of horrible things have been done to people to force them to change their religion. And so I understand why it's so upsetting under as a parent understand that it might be upsetting to me if You know someday what if my my boy was coming from the army and say I you know I now believe in Jesus that might be upsetting to me and yet I sort of feel like word. Simpson's taking me seriously enough to say I really believe that you will be them for all eternity if you don't listen to me. Let me tell you about Jesus and you decide. I sort of feel like that's good. I feel like it's a model of what the public debate public square should be like. The thing is though that this channel isn't public square. This is channel. One Eighty two on hot. I mean the last of the corner of the Public Square. I think it's a very far corner underground in a tunnel on the way to the train station. Which is closed I think the last time the allison's gets flopped in front of the TV and flip through the channels and never people watch TV. They're especially not miners. Who Watch netflix watched shows on those tick tock? We'd have a problem with that would be scary. I mean that's exactly why I feel like this is more of a symbolic issue. Well clearly and they feel like it's mostly because of exactly this fear we've been letting the locals in and taking their we. You know certain kinds of Jewish organizations and Israeli organizations have been taking lots of money from Evangelical Love Their Money. We love their political support. Loved to have an influence on Donald Trump. And now the the scariest scenario for them is just you saw so then but we all agree that the channel should be able to stay on. I mean Alison with your caveat that that nobody should be able th- or that then everybody should be able to do you think it should be taken off no la whatever. Whatever decision is made? I want it to be across the board so therefore I don't I also don't want people on Cable Television telling me that That my lifestyle is horrible and terrible. Because I don't keep Chabad. I don't eat kosher. So if abide sets up a little a little folding table near the shook on Fridays Asking people to put on Fillon. Then you think that that God TV people should be able to. Y- be setting up their tables and talking. I agree entirely only. I think that it's all good. I don't I don't think we have to do the book of Mormon guys just like people talking about about about what you believe and whether you should believe something whether we're had to live a good life that just seems to me to be great. That just seems like what life in public is like at. Its very best and you're giving them a bit too much credit. I feel it's much more moralizing. And and and and scaring you. You'RE GONNA burn in hell talking about the best way to live because as is greater good. I don't know it's a combo. Sra that's now the soundtrack of Brooklyn Mormon going through everything you need to know about mission. Is You learn if you see book of Mormon which I love. Okay listen to this Own Ver- learn because the not name show is it is Stab that wisp of a song is the dream by through whom you can find on apple. Music spotify Caesar Band camp and all the rest and now time for the country segment. This is the part of the show in which each of us described something that might have surprised or amused delighted or enchanted. Endorse older sometimes. Maybe even flogged us as we went our way through our world over the last little while. Hod. What is your country so being a musical segment. I think we should start with a Song Sean. Status quo the move league. Save that we saw but bill. We are actually this old. So this song is status quo by you. Mendelssohn and this is a very free translation of the first few lyrics. You just heard in one thousand nine hundred forty seven on what seemed like a regular day. Everyone woke up in the morning. The skies were dreary and gray. Ben Gurion war shorts yes Bermuda and sent off a letter to a Gouda what he wrote in that letter in that letter of surrender. Oh the horror was a whole bunch of ads looking for Dollah so that they wouldn't foil his plan of establishing a country and uniting the land. Who is your Mendelssohn you ask? He is an brilliant translation. They thank you very much He's an Israeli musician actor screenwriter director and most recently a high school civics teacher what we call here in. Israel Mola is a hoot. Mendelssohn rose to rock and Roll Hall of fame when he was a teen as the lead singer of a legendary band called shades known for their explicit sincere tongue in cheek lyrics their two thousand one debut album included indie hits such as the eponymous nationalist. Teen Angst Fueled New Yorker via which you're listening to right now and the Anti Ballot Doma locale or you look like a dog. The legendary band has since split up and reunited on many an occasion. Meanwhile Mendelssohn is managed to act in movies and TV shows. Start and finish film school form and split up many band get married have kids and ended up teaching at the same high school in Ramat Gun. He went to as a kid and shake. It was formed in but Mendelssohn hasn't lost his charm or wit. He recently reemerged on the musical scene with a solo project called Environmental Stoneham pauline referring to the Holocaust remembrance trips high school kids in Israel take to Poland and a pseudo educational side project called Yuval. Herman Vol you've all the wicked a riff on famous Israeli children's star. You will do all the confused. Who recently stirred up some controversy after being caught up in a high profile drug busts. But that's a whole nother story. The first album was titled Songs for Bella. You vol's baby daughter and included songs with familiar family friendly tunes and educational subjects such as the human body Hanukkah animals and the murder of prime minister. Yitzhak lobby. It's hilarious and now the second element album is being released. Slowly in the form of singles and it's called is a hoot over Labor. Good Salima Slim or good. Citizenship preparation for matriculation. Twenty twenty as you might have guessed by now in this album. Yuval Mendelssohn the high school civics teacher Yuval Mendelssohn the silver tongue songwriter and Yuval Mendelssohn the enveloping Rockstar. All meet and boy what a meeting it is can tell me die of Keisha speaking someone who actually took the Guten is a hoot not too many years ago. The album's songs really do cover the main subjects quite thoroughly and seriously while also delivering ride dry political commentary the five songs or lessons that have been released so far our status quo which I started with constitutional foundations human and civil rights separation of powers and nationalism and the nation state so in honor for a soon to be sworn in executive branch. I thought it apt to end with a few words from less than three separation of powers which you have been listening to in the background. The elections are held once in every four years or once in every few months and the people the sovereign they take to the polls and they cast their votes while holding their nose. The supply is diverse like an endless buffet. In an all you can eat restaurant and you can vote for you ever you want. Except it always ends up Netanyahu. Even when he's been outvoted it still ends up. Netanyahu wonderful allison. What is your country? So let's be honest guys corona virus well and truly fucked up best holiday season. We had our Passover Seder without our family around the table. We had Independence Day. With a prerecorded torch lighting ceremony and no free fund concerts and it all began with poor him at the beginning of the outbreak. A holiday that I think might be permanently. Messed up because really in the future who is ever going to associate wearing a mask with fun so it wasn't just that these special days didn't feel extra fun and exciting because the government was so determined to prevent celebrations and gatherings they felt worse than normal days. We were confined even more severely to our homes than we are on regular days so I am happy to report today that there was at least one holiday that I for one was happy not to celebrate and that the government considered there were enough people who felt the way I did that. They didn't even bother making extra tough restrictions for that holiday. This of course is the weird and screwy Jewish holiday of log mare. This is one of those holidays that if you were raised a non Orthodox Jews in the diaspora like me. You may have learned about and then forgotten about in Hebrew school and then you encounter it in Israel and you say what this is a holiday. What in the world are we celebrating? And you can't get a straight answer to your question not even from the smartest educated Julie Jews like Noah Ephron the death of ancient rabbi the Barco revolt. Sorry nobody really knows what they're doing anyway. Longtime podcast listeners have heard me whine about logbook mayor bonfires in the past. And I'm sure we've discussed it in depth to on the podcast in previous years to me. It looks like an excuse to steal play with fire. Get dirty and stay out. Ridiculously laid ruined the environment. And then this day of school in normal years the spend their week stealing stolen grocery shopping carts. They run around town with their friends collecting every scrap of would incite for their massive bonfires. And then if you're the parent of a small child. You are ordered to bring potatoes marshmallows. Maybe some drinks and homeless and cut up fruit to a class bonfire. And you get to spend hours. Inhaling smoke watching Ashen crested kids run around in circles around the campfire thrusting sticks into the flames enjoying the forbidden thrill of playing with fire. And it's even more fun when you have multiple kids when you have to bonfire hoppy shared duties with your spouse. You make deals with other parents to try and keep an eye out and make sure your kid doesn't get scarred for life but you can't get anyone to take the smokey smell out of the air across town for the next forty eight hours. Another big part of the bonfire tradition on log. Bowman recent years has been environmentalist imploring people to reduce or eliminate the bonfires because they are bad bad bad for the planet in the age of climate change. So this year of course the Health Ministry DID NOT WANT FOLKS MASTER. Not crowded around a bonfire. They said you could have a little backyard barbecue. If you really really need to play with fire on my instagram there were some very cute pictures of people mostly with small kids roasting their hot dog marshmallows in the backyard. Friend or the promise podcast. Each Fleischer had some very cute photos of his family so I was only asked once by one person. So what are you doing for Lug? But Oh mayor are you going to barbecue? I'm like no way occur. Okay so I had a lovely logged Omar Eve taking my walk around or Nana instead of inhaling disgusting ash and smoke. There was a faint smell of cooking meat in the air. Yes some people did their barbecues. And Yeah Okay so my one kid in school did have the actual holiday off but it was a good thing she got away from Zoom computer screen for a change right. We went for a walk on the beach instead. It was lovely so apparently the government have the holiday completely locked down for. I can't comprehend. People felt the need to have a huge bonfire mostly in the ultra orthodox communities there were viral videos of crowded celebrations and Jerusalem. Hms and on Mountain marrone where the big pilgrimage annually takes place to the gravesite of Rabbi Barrio. High the big scandal at marrone which was supposed to be the small controlled event but got out of control. Some pop stars showed up with their entourage. Goodness knows why they felt the need to To pray I don't know maybe they're praying that their concerts can get revived. I don't know why they they showed up there. I'm traditionally at not marrone ultra Orthodox. Kids get their haircut at the age of three. Because it's supposed to be a more holy thing to do next to the bio high gravesite that resulted in what I thought was the world's cutest demonstration of toddlers in Jerusalem asking to be set free for their haircuts. I liked that part anyway. I can now say that after pulling together the semblances of many holiday observances. This is one that I would probably celebrate. Never having to celebrate again so I'm drinking wine and watching. This is us with Susan. My phone rings. It's an unfamiliar number answer because I'm expecting a package and even though it's eight at night who knows and a voice at the other end says shallow Italian Miozzi vote. No I say yes. It is no and your value but I didn't quite catch from where. And she says Talia Yishai from vote and I say And she says has a vote. You know the band now. Let me put this in perspective. Imagine that you're watching this as us and having a little wine and the phone rings and you answer it in the voice says Shalom's Keith Mia Stones and you say you're Keith. But I didn't quite catch from where he says. Keith Richard from the stones and you say And he says the rolling stones you know the band. It was like that if you've listened to this show or have ever had a beer with me in a bar. Then you've probably heard me say that has a vote. The wolves are my favorite band. You've probably heard me say that to me. Has a vote are much more than a band? I'm guessing you heard me tell you about the time. I went to see them in a basement club and the lead singer. He fought ballots. Yano who is wearing a net. Top in doc martens looking every bit like the lead singer of a punk band that she is and she sounds like this donahue come then all at once she stops and she waves her arms and she hushes the band at a is to a halt and she jumps off the stage and she runs through the crowd to a woman who's just walked in saying EMA EMA EMA and. She grabs her up a hug back on. She says you don't know. My Ema just came back from France and this is the first time I've seen her in weeks. And she waves to the woman in the crowd and she says again. Hi Emma and you've maybe heard me tell you how the ban started with four girls in eighth grade and Helen who started playing together learning the instruments as they go and their middle school principal got wind of what they were doing and called the city without their knowing in convince someone there to give them a bomb shelter. Stow their gear and practice in and telling all this onstage. I once heard defy ballots. Yano say that shelter became for us. Well a shelter. And if you've heard me say these things then you understand what it's like when ty says to me you gave when we crowdsourced our new record which we just finished and now that we're allowed to travel again. Were driving around giving everyone the swag they're supposed to get. Will you be around that? I Say I'm here. Save for when I walk the dog but even then I'll be closer. Call when you get here. We finished the episode. And I go down with Lucy and walking down Ben. Yehuda right when I'm is far from home as I'm going to get the phone rings and I say Talia Ali or maybe ninety seconds and Lucy and I jogged back and when we'RE ON MY CORNER. Talia is there and she says. Are you knock an icee Talia? Now I know her from the clubs but I've never seen her on stage and she smaller than I would've guessed because on stage four of these women are bigger than life and she got from me. A black T. shirt with a drawing of the band's mascot of a she wolf in a sheepskin Boa and a postcard of the mascot an CD record which I want the moment I see it even though. I don't think I own anything that I can play a CD on anymore. And Anyway I have all their songs on Apple Music and I'm starstruck and the nagging voice in my head repeats. Don't do anything that makes you look like a creep. Don't do anything that makes you look like a creep. Because I'm a middle aged guy. She's a twenty five year old rockstar. And what I say is this God's truth I say sometimes I say that you're the best band in the Middle East and sometimes I say that you're the best band in the world but I always say that you're my favorite band. That is what I say. And the voice in my head says Oh my fucking God and on the street corner a beat passes and tie who plays. Bass by the way she smiles and she says Saba and then she says and then she adds for two reasons. It's a nice complement and it means I'll see you around in the clubs and I say the only thing that's left to say which is Baba and that brings us the end of our show. Thanks you to meet. Ashkenazi are genius researcher conciliatory and scholar not in residence. Thanks we tie them our executive producer and station manager without whom there would be none of this thanks to us. She believed my favorite band from kibbutz. The music at the start and the end of our show. Thank you hard. Thank you Natalie. Thank you Alison. And I would like to wish a very very special happy birthday to Dr Steven Kaplan. Who is the father of one? Alison Kaplan summer. And I just like to say as I always say that. Any father of Allison is a father of mine. Happy Birthday to you. Happy Birthday to you. Happy Birthday dear. Dr Steven Kaplan Happy Birthday to you. Hope to see you back here in Israel back here in the studio sometime soon we would like to thank all of our Patriot supporters for your generosity and support. It keeps the show and the station going and we are moved and we are grateful and we are in your debt. We'd like to thank the rest of you out there for taking the time to listen to nationalize on facebook and drop us a line. We GonNa answer then go to apple podcast and give us a five star review. Maybe when the begins with this there are not always medical clowns on the promise podcast but believe me. There are always clowns on the promise. Podcast thought that finished anywhere you want but for you do that. Remember that this week on. May Twentieth will celebrate International Bidet so stipulated to commemorate the birth on May twentieth seventeen thirty four two hundred eighty six years ago of Anton IANSA the Great Slovenian painter appier wrist and pioneer of apple culture who not only kept the bees of the court of Habsburg in Vienna but also wrote to German language books on the subject. Seventeen seventy one discussion on beekeeping in the seventeen seventy five full guide to be keeping in which he wrote quote. Bees are a type of fly. Hard-working created by God to provide man with all needed honey and wax amongst all gods beings. There are none so hard working in useful demand with so little attention needed for its keep as the B and B's Rock Man IANSA rocks. And I think you can see why. Wait for International. Be Day all year round. What with the Biala g and the APP Menia and the culturists and of course with the annual showing of Jerry Seinfeld's animated movie Yup Be Day is going to be great but I know that just like that as if beset by some horrid colony collapse disorder be is to be over gone not to return for a whole `nother year not so the promised. Podcast we will be back for you next week and every week reminding you that you don't have to know what's the buzz in order to be. Iki Sticky interesting real bad on this the promise by.

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Episode 651: How to Use the BNI Podcast (Classic Podcast)

The Official BNI Podcast

11:52 min | 11 months ago

Episode 651: How to Use the BNI Podcast (Classic Podcast)

"Hello this is Priscilla Rice. And I'm coming to you from live oak recording studio this week. We're going to have a rebroadcast of one of our earlier classic podcasts. We hope you enjoy it and thanks so much for listening episode number five hundred and forty three how to use the BNI podcast. You're listening to the official podcast with BNI founder and chief visionary officer Dr Ivan Meisner Stay Tuned for networking and referral marketing. Tips from the man. Who's been called the father of modern networking along with suggestions and insights into getting the most from your membership in the world's largest networking organization being. Hello everybody and welcome back to the official. Bni podcast brought to you by the networking for success. Channel on Youtube which features Dr Ivan Meisner and many other networking experts. I'm Priscilla Rice. And I'm coming to you from live oak recording studio in Berkeley California and I'm joined on the phone today by the founder and the Chief Visionary Officer of be an eye doctor Ivan Meisner. Hello Ivan how are you today? I am doing fantastic and we have an interesting topic. I think today. And it's about how to use it being like podcasts. I'll I'll listen to the PODCAST. I started thinking about it because sally catch. Who's the person who manages the podcast website answered somebody's question and she started throwing out some stats and I thought. Wow this is really interesting and I started thinking about You know ways that people can listen and how they could use the podcast as a result of sending us and I'm gonNA share those stats with you at the end of this podcast. But I came up with a list of eight different things to think about. And the way you listen to the podcast or what you can do with the podcast and Priscilla. We haven't talked about these much. And so if you've got something you want to add to it I'd love to hear them I think this is a great podcast to kind of You know I found it ambitious if really sit down and think about what you're going to do and how you're going to do it. Tend to be much more successful at doing it so this is kind of contemplating how to effectively. Use All this amazing content. I mean we have hundreds and hundreds of podcasts now an amazing library for so that you and I have have Put together over the years. And so here's my list. I have eight. You feel free to add any at the end here I I personally if I were listening for the content I would listen in my office and take notes. 'cause I'm I like taking notes on stuff I think that helps me in things through And try to apply them. So that's number one for me. I recommend members Listen to their office and take a few notes or at the very least print out the podcast so one and a half print out the podcast and highlight the things that That you find interesting. Of course the real one. Priscilla's listened to him in your car. You Know I. I ran be an eye in Los Angeles for thirty years and on the road a lot driving in La and the podcast. Any any kind of thing that you can listen to and learn while you're in traffic is awesome so listening to them into cars number two or three is. I think a lot of people don't know you you can download the podcast on Itunes So you know. Listen TO HIM ON MOBILE DEVICE. I have a a friend. Tony and and San Demus who downloads them on his mobile device and he plays them in his car. He's driving or plays them in his office or he plays them in between meetings And so in downloading them on I tunes as Number Three Number. Four education coordinators. I think education coordinators. This is the perfect tool for them. They can do summaries of a podcast and even heard of some education coordinators plane. A short segment You know the podcast and of twelve minutes or so. You can't play the whole podcast which might play a little segment out of it. And I've seen education coordinators through that I I love that idea. We're five is Is to hand out the transcript at a meeting talk about it. People just Kinda review and talk about different elements of it I think that's a great way to to use the material on the podcast. Education Coordinator of course can assign specific podcast based on the information. That group needs so you. You figure out what their chapter needs and then assign specific podcasts for dialogue or at a meeting. Here's a a function on the podcast? That I think Everyone should play around with. And that's the search function the search function We'll help really honed down your your Search for any particular topic that you're looking at your if you want to figure out how to invite visitors or if you're looking for networking techniques or You know there's just something to some particular topic. This search function is I think oftentimes underutilized people. Ask me all the time the podcast on such and such as what? What did you do a search? No do that yeah. That's that's what I would do. Is I do a search to find it. So the search functions number seven and number eight assign podcast to members. You may be mentoring in a group. I remember struggling with something. Podcasts are fantastic. Way TO HELP. If they're struggling. Or if they're just new to be an eye and they need to develop some Some ideas and techniques and networking more effectively. Assigning podcasts are great. Hey I'm going to add a ninth. One just thought of and this one is being i. Director consultants and directors directors should be assigning podcast people that they're working with and maybe this apply to leadership teams as well. Assigning podcast just like a mentor. Would the people that need assistance in developing their networking skills? More so most of the eight or nine I came up with Priscilla. Can you think of any other effective uses for the punch as well you know? I do. Listen to podcasts on my mobile device and I suggest that you can. You can listen to podcasts. When you're just doing the dishes or you're doing something mundane that doesn't take your full attention and it really opens your mind to all kinds of new ideas. That's a great suggestion. Actually listen to a podcast. While you're doing the dishes were doing the mundane you can listen to the podcast. If you're walking definitely on a treadmill or you know walk in the neighborhood. That's a great one and they're just suggest that they're not that long so that you can actually get a hold on in in short period of time or several if you're on a treadmill or whatever if you have another one feel free to share it I WANNA SHARE. Sally content in a second please. If you're listening to this podcast I'd love for you to post any other ideas. We just came up with nine or ten I if you've got an idea on how to use the podcast effectively and bi posted up here. I'd love to see it. Do you have any other well? I just think it's a real opportunity to listen to them in general and to hear what you have to say so. I mean it's such a dynamic flowing resource basically so I just encourage everybody to listen to them so we we have a member Carl who asked a question that sally catch having to have answered and again. Sally is the person who manages being podcast website and she said This was her response. Priscilla she industy off my grade school math. You said the podcast are roughly ten minutes. I thought everyone listening to this might find this interesting. I certainly did. The podcast are roughly ten minutes usually a little longer. There are over five hundred. Forty published episodes She said but according to her trustee episode spreadsheets. Seventy Seventy. Eight of them are rebroadcasts. By the way we rebroadcast. Classic one because there's some great content and I've been concerned that they would get buried. No podcast number ninety seven. Who's GonNa go all the way back And so we rebroadcast some of the classics. So she said Seventy eight of them are rebroadcast. And we have five hundred and forty minus seventy eight or a total of four hundred. Sixty two unique podcast. So if you multiply that by Ken which is conservative by the way You have four thousand. Six hundred and twenty minutes podcast. Well at seventy seven hours of listening. She said. I wouldn't recommend staying awake for three days to do that. Yes Crew Sally. Just said put it another way. If you listen to two per day we'd take over two hundred and thirty days to hear all the current current episodes. Forget about the new ones that are coming out every week. Two hundred thirty days. You hear all the current episodes Wow that's I mean that's just mind boggling Peop- the Bank of information that we have created is amazing and if you're listening to this share with your members if they're listening to podcast they had to come on over and check it out because there's just some fantastic contact sally wrapped up by saying however all the podcast. This is her response to to Carl Question. All the podcasts contain terrific information you might WANNA listen to episodes on certain topics I go back and fill things in most episodes independent. So you can listen to them on your own you can do. You can short the episodes by Category AG or series as well as search. I talked about search. But you can category Tagore Series and get a great list of shows based on that Categories listed on the Sidebar And here's the last thing she said I think is important. You may wish to download some a bundle of episodes. We've done bundles by going. To be an eye. Podcast DOT com slash Shows by year with Hyphens in between. We'll put the link actually in this podcast so you can go there and get bundle so Great content and thanks for your addition Priscilla and Sally we've never talked about China podcast. It's about time. Thank you for that addition and if you have some ideas on how to effectively use podcast please share them with us here on the comments section Slot Priscilla back to you and last of all I just want to say thank you all for being listeners. Because we do it for you and it's just wonderful to have you out there it is and I'm glad you just added that in Priscilla. That's a good one okay. Well that's it for this week. Thank you so much Dr. Meisner for bringing this whole topic up and I just like to remind the listeners that this podcast has been brought to you by the networking success channel on Youtube. Thank you for listening this is Priscilla Rice and we look forward to having you join us again next week for another exciting episode of the official. Be An eye podcast.

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S2. Ep. 04: Sopan Deb reads an excerpt from "Missed Translations"

Storybound

43:06 min | 7 months ago

S2. Ep. 04: Sopan Deb reads an excerpt from "Missed Translations"

"Hey. If you love listening to this show, please consider giving a rating and review on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts, we want to continue bringing you the show for free and part of our ability to do that means we need a big audience. It may not seem like it, but rating and reviewing the show will help more people. Find Us. You just search story bound on apple podcasts, scroll to the bottom and push five stars that easy. If you'd like, you can even read us a note explaining why you love the show. Thank you. Hi. I'm so pandemic and this is story bound. Welcome to story. Presented by Hobby Radio and the PODCAST. I'm your host, Jude Brewer. In. Just one minute you'll hear so pandemic read an excerpt from his book missed translations with an original score by Jordan, alleman. You recorded. So Pan Right before the quarantine set in and were excited to finally share his story. Make sure you stick around until after the credits to hear something. Special. I everyone jude here and I'm here to tell you about a podcast called Harry Potter and the sacred text in this podcast Harvard divinity school graduates and Co host Vanessa and Casper have embarked on a five year journey to take a deeper dive into all of the Harry Potter Books Together. This duo will relive the magic of the text chapter by chapter exploring themes of commitment revenge forgiveness. Forgiveness and some of life's big questions. You can join Vanessa and Casper. This season as they explore book seven Harry Potter and the deathly hallows. If you're considering starting or jumping back into Harry Potter, or if you're enthralled with thoughtful and enlightening conversations, this is the perfect podcast for you just searching listen to Harry Potter and the sacred texts on apple or wherever you're listening to this podcast. In two thousand, seven, my Freshman Year of College Shimon came to visit me in Boston at the beginning of my spring semester. I don't remember much of the visit other than that. He bought me lunch at my favorite Thai restaurant on Campus Noodle Street before taking me to a local grocery store for supplies. I didn't realize at the time that this would be the last time. I would see him for eleven years. I might have given him a better goodbye if I had. The next month I noticed that I had not heard from him for at least a couple of weeks. My father used to call every. Sunday. Like clockwork. So I called him. Usually if my father saw missed call for me, he would immediately call me back but he didn't. So I call again and left a voicemail. Message. My father saw two missed calls voicemail from me. He will fly to Boston to make sure I was okay. It's true. We weren't close, but he desperately wanted to be, and as I grew older, he tried in his own awkward way to bond with me. Schimmel still didn't call me back at this point. I was worried he was an older man living by himself as an immigrant and a country that had not worked for him. Spring break was coming up and I decided that I would knock on the door when I got home. Right before the break, I get an email from him. He told me that he was sick and that he was no longer. New. Jersey. I immediately responded where are you are you in a hospital in New York? I'll come visit you. startled. By his response. I'm in India. Shimada know when he'd be back. I had never even been to India. He said he was too ill to live in New Jersey on his own. And, that he had left for medical treatment. He never came back. Throughout the next day. I never found out where exactly he's living. Isn't that bizarre? My father moved to another country without telling anybody and I wasn't phased. It was one step from a parental hosting. I would've asked questions after mediocre online dating attempt. Perhaps, my reticence is born of the same guilt I felt about the situation with my mother. I've always had this nagging feeling that I didn't do right by them. All that I wasn't a good enough sun to him and didn't give us a chance to work on our relationship. I didn't want to know why he was too sick to stay in the country, because I was sure I partially caused it. I always had this thought in the back of my head that maybe if I'd taken the time to engage with him in a meaningful way, instead of looking at myself as the reach of immigrant parents who didn't get him. He would have felt comfortable communicating about his need to leave. Knowing about my father situation lobbying to remain blissfully ignorant of the role I played in his decision to do so. As the years passed and my father would call from, India our conversations grew more regular. He'd never learned anything about me and I'd never learn anything about him. The calls just let me know that he was still alive. Sometimes, he'd ask if we could video chat. I always found some reason not to seeing his face would make it to real. Outside bag clinical cutter. The time to avoid seeing his face was quickly running out. Days before he had emailed us a picture of himself. Since he knew I might not remember what he looked like. Of course, the picture he sent featured him wearing sunglasses a barge. Simpson t-shirt with cut off sleeves and baseball CAP. which is the exact picture you send someone you don't want to be recognized. I called my father. Yeah. We're the sidewalk. I said. I turned a Wesleyan. Put on a brave face. It's not that hot here. Not Right now. Anyway. I think he was waiting. I said, and suddenly stopped in my tracks. Wesley spotted a man striding confidently at the arrival doors on a mission like the Brown Kool aid. Man. Oh my God I think that's him. I said. It was unexpected. Remarkable sight. When I last noodle street, I remember thinking how unhealthy looked. Now in indy eleven years later he looked tanned rested and spirited. With almost as much hairs I have. Were white trash shirt with black pants and he sported a fresh haircut. That he still had haircut was surprised me what many I'd find out. His muscles had tone. He didn't have a dad who was just Abbad. Here. The kind of glowing confident Tan of someone who had strolled onto a golf course smoking Cohiba and blasted in a blind folded. He was earnest and genuinely excited. Welcome to India, he said to both of us. Said is an understatement was more like a war. Everything out of his mouth was yell. Welcome to India. He joyfully hand Wesley a dozen or so miniature roses, their stems carefully wrapped in aluminum foil to keep them fresh. I got a pat on the head. Wow, you're a grown up man now I almost did not recognize you. It's in many years, dad. I was waiting there watching every door. How could you come out? I'm waiting there like a security guard. A couple of Taylor's are here one for you. One for her. You know we're not the ones getting married. Right I answered. I don't know anything about you come on. Wesleyan. I. Piled our bags into the trunk of the car in climbed into the back seat. CHAMO- the front. And it begin our first car ride in India. which was really great training for zero gravity spacewalks should life overcome to that? There are no driving rules in India at least none that I could see. Our driver routinely swerved and cut off cars or is on the receiving end of similar chaos. In New Jersey, this could get you killed in Calcutta which is located in the eastern part of the country near the border with Dash. was just a Wednesday. Service. Every few seconds driver hunt. It wasn't out of rage. All the other drivers to. It was a way of self policing on the Road Harker get bond. We tried to converse in the car which was an exercise in futility. My tennis court is. Just beside your hotel. My Dad. You Still Play Tennis Of course. Today. I. Played Monday Wednesday and Friday plus golf twice a month. Cutting through all the cold cut annoys I was relieved to hear. He wasn't a slowly die man I all those years ago much to my surprise. And as I found out during the cab, ride hit other interest to cosmic activity doesn't leave time for the mind to wander. The conversation turned to Wesley who upon interrogation told my father. She had recently graduated from law school at Harvard. schmo lowered his voice a bit. Very good. Very good. I. Am very proud of you. I have taken two courses at MIT and Harvard. Really I. Of course, have you not seen my resume? You. Know I have not seen your resume not recently. My Dad was a very good lawyer, your grandfather, a famous criminal lawyer. He never lost a case. We were twenty minutes into the ride. It was the most substantive conversation, my father and I had ever shared in that moment. It hit me that I'd never really thought about my grandparents then came this exchange. So Pan, could you recognize me have? I. Changed A lot. I did recognize you, but it was much different than I expected. What did you expect? I don't know you seem like you're living your best life right now. Really my heart has an vibrating for the last four months. How can I see my long lost son? Honestly I don't know what I was expecting I'm happy to see. You're so active I said. You look much different than when I last. Saw You. He pause versus with second. You put on weight. Thank you. My father and I were dipping our toes and we circled each other a bit cautiously at first. Like professional wrestlers before they lock horns. The last time we had an in person conversation I was adjusting to life as a freshman in college and being on my own for the first time. Aside, from doing well in class. I was singularly focused on fitting in on campus. A daunting task for someone who had always felt like an outsider. I was unsure of myself. I cared a lot about other people thought. In Highschool people, my age were still wearing those puka shell surfer necklaces that seem really stylish. I was so thirsty for acceptance that I'd ask other students if I could wear, there's for a couple of hours just. So people thought. I. Had my own. It never occurred to me by one. College. Was My chance to walk in a frat parties and seem cool. I was in the midst of a search for the biggest coolest friend group in Massachusetts more than a decade. Later, I was more mature and centered comfortable with my path life. The version of myself, that Shamali was seeing had room for him. That wasn't there when I was eighteen. How'd you like to buy my dad asked, no. Yelled about the city in which we'd had a one night lay over the night before. To buy was wonderful I answered. Yes. To is one of the leading developing cities in the world. Lot of wealth is over there. Have you been there recently I asked? Not recently a longtime back. Small. Talk about geopolitics. Very good. I thought. Wesley. Totally were more excited about India than to buy twitch my father responded with a hearty laugh. I should take a second and describe that laugh. I have a terrible chuckle that often runs on a two second delay. It's the kind that embarrasses friends at parties, which probably helps explain why I was rarely invited to any in college, but my father's imagining Santa Claus Yellen. Ho. Open. High pitched, Tocado and through a loudspeaker. When Shaimaa. Finds something funny. It's best to board of surrounding windows. Actually not too dissimilar from shock. His laugh just in a higher educator. We shall show you India very well. Did you have a little bit of studies about India? The GAULS and all that Chamo- asked foreshadowing and amusing motif of our Indian education. A little, bit. Honestly. We want to learn as much as we could on this trip. We were both getting a bit more comfortable. My heart was beating in a more normal pace and I. let my shoulders hunched bit. Small lowered is voice. How about music are you practicing music at all? He remembered. My parents against my wishes had made, we take classical piano lessons starting when I was six. I hated it. I hated practicing Beethoven. I hated how exact you had to be. If Mozart wanted something quicken section. Sorry. Allegro. It had to be quick. You didn't color outside the lines. Eventually after about eight years I stopped going to lessen the started picking up jazz on my own. I love the concept of improvisation. I was one of the better piano players from Asia to high school, but I didn't practice enough never improved. Even though I auditioned for the Berkeley College of Music I was never skilled enough to full time. I was however good enough to be in several cover bands throughout my life including one called the streetlight bit. My mother and father took me to my lessons. I doubt they envisioned my abilities peaking with a cover of Bryan Adams's summer of sixty nine at enters pub on the Jersey Shore. Shimon was a musician himself as you reminded me an accordion player. He was a less clear version of weird out. I have flashes of memories from him playing when I was a child. But it was the same three songs over and over again. One of them was ill vice from the sound of music. I've got a very beautiful piano for you said, at a busy intersection I've been playing it for the last eight years. I got a tune, the tuning changes, every three or four months because of the change of climate. But my piano is in very good shape. I've been waiting hours for you to come play. I'll take pictures. In my mind quickly ran through the visuals on my father, videotaping me at this highly anticipated piano summit, which yelling I got my first real six string. Bought it at the five and dime or some other bar band classic. The driver Lurch back and forth with no warning. The high pitched car honks complemented by Shemona's energetic wheels and never done cocaine, but boy. Did it feel like it might have been the boost I needed to keep up. This is cut. Did. You know six people got the Nobel Prize from the city he said? My father has verbal tic, which was exhibited many times throughout the trip. When he wanted to teach something, he would along the word or subject he was trying to teach us about. So Calcutta became Cuda Mughal became Mughal 's. Chamois rambled on about the writings of Rabindranath Tagore the legendary poet, Sas and writer who won the Nobel Prize in literature and nineteen thirteen, the first Asian to do so. To Gore's work was formed during my father's childhood or so he said Beverly cleary was during mind, but I didn't feel explaining Ramona Quimby to him. Wesley United both excited about the food I told them all. We were. rejected the side of my brown notice. I've always loved Indian food as Wesley. Plan, is to give you all home cooked food by Cook is very good yesterday. I bought special fresh fish for you. Various types of fishes. You cannot get this fishing, America brand new good fish. We'll take care of you. I've got Indian white wine, red wine, and Indian beer showing said, i. had never had a drink with him before. Now, we're talking I answered. Hit. Surprise me to learn that he had his own cook though we soon realize that this is a very common in India. We were initially hammering out the details of the trip. Schmil asked us to bring a gift for woman who stayed with him. I. Quietly wondered if he had remarried without mentioning it, he hadn't. It turned out. The Shimo was referring to his Cook Aparna. Part of the reason I resented my father I was young was I didn't feel like I had one. There was a cultural gap between us. His upbringing in India never yielded to American assimilation as well. A generational one. Schmaltz, almost fifty years older than me. High. School. I had a friend named Paul live down the street. His father stand play the guitar and Talk Paul. WHO's my age how to play? They were in a classic rock band together, which performed covers the Beatles. Billy. Joel. Mac musica locked. In highschool standing vitamin to be part of the band's new keyboardist, this was the street light band. I felt more of a connection to stand in my own dad. There's no way to talk to Chamois about how rumors was one of the best albums ever made. He didn't know what rumors fleetwood Mac or actual rumors were. Fatherhood met his mind and my desire for what I believe to be the quintessential American experience. My white friends had were two vastly different things. To Jamal being father was a black and white equation about putting forth the hard work through whatever means necessary so that the family could survive. In America. In theory, it should have been easier to do that. That's why he emigrated here. I never saw it that way. As, a kid in New Jersey. Suburb Life Wasn't just about survival was a kind of privilege I never realized I had. A wonderful relationship to be about playing catcher riding bikes together. I WANNA show. Maldonado. My friends and teach me how to shave. I. Want someone to talk to girls and tell me where babies came from. That was America I thought. Especially, considering the experience by white. Childhood, friends were having. where I wanted less for mother in many ways, less pressure west interference, I badly wanted more from Jamal. The cultural gap was widened further by my father's pride and being an immigrant. I saw his pride as a burden especially in middle school and high school were feeling like an outsider was a constant hardly anyone in class. Look like me. If they did I bet I would have spent more time with other parents murder from all and my assumptions about race and parenting would have been different these feelings. Especially, the ones I had equating whiteness with being American weren't justified irrational with benefit of time. I can say they were wrong. The truth is that I'm not sure the my relationship Jamal ever had a chance. Even if my parents had had a stable healthy marriage, the gap between my father and me may have been insurmountable. He didn't understand what it meant to be an American child going up in Nineteen Ninety S I didn't understand what it meant to be h house India, most important. I didn't understand what it meant to be a father from India to millennial son here in the united. States. He certainly made a good faith effort, but the execution was and boy did I, resent him for? Year. After year, my dad's showed up to my little league game about understanding the rules. Struck, out early and often. One time I swear, I, saw him standing up cheering for me after I struck out. I am fairly positive that he thought that's what was supposed to happen. My son doesn't have to endure the punishment of the basis. But my career didn't make much sense to an electrical engineer from India. He knows that I'm a journalist and a writer for the New York Times. But what that means has always been something into him. Shock understood a bit more but not too much growing up the television she approved of me watching outside of seventh heaven. Of course, was the news. She didn't understand what into broadcast but she loved Peter Jennings ABC. She liked twenty twenty or sixty minutes. She was a news consumer in away. My father wasn't. This, probably wasn't content, but her appreciation for the news, probably nudge me toward being reporter. My first started at. Boston University, my goal was to become a sports broadcaster. I want to be the next Bob Costas and call NBA Finals Games on television. I was never good at sports. So this was the next best thing. When I watch games on television, I would move the television broadcast games myself. I would do the same when playing video games. Say initial ninety, four on second genesis. Eventually I became a bit bored by sports and shifted to hard news. I was a sports director of the college radio station at Bu and found myself disillusioned by just how regular athletes are. They sometimes wanted to show up late for work and act? Ranki look mother, they're just like us. After college my career took several detours. Let's call them forced detours including stops at the Boston Globe dinner. Renew my contract NBC, a layoff Aljazeera, a layoff. And Major. League. Baseball. 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I was part of a small group of about five ten reporters. The follow the trump campaign from start to finish. We went to more than forty and hundreds of rallies trump even some angry tweets by way once calling me and my friend, Katie Tur and NBC reporter Third Rate and dishonest adding that we should be fired. I'm sure he was just joking. Small. Didn't know what it meant to be a campaign for national television network. Are you on television sometimes? So you're a cameraman sometimes. You write stories sometimes. I don't get it. I, know. Covering, the trump campaign may be hyper aware of just how brown I am with or without family ties. No matter how American I felt is an Indian American for some the hyphen mattered war. The political press corps is almost entirely white to say nothing about the demographics trump's rally crowds. At a rally in LAS. Vegas. Nevada. An older white man came up to me as I was doing the interview and yelled at, I should go back to Iraq where I came from. Of. Course from Iraq. That gentleman had how New Jersey. Although go back to New Jersey where you came from, might be the worse insult. Slater. The press. Corps wasn't. Reno. There was a huge line outside the ballroom or trump was lame to speak. See. That was the thing about trump rallies. There were always long lines. Wasn't doing rallies in diners coffeeshops, he was doing them in basketball readers. People would line up the night before to get a good seat. His supporters would show up dressed like came in holding signs. It was Republican political woodstock meant trump supporters who travel around the country going to every rally. Trump, was the political equivalent of the allman brothers. Every show was different, but just like the band some songs with me without. I was taking pictures of the line outside of the Reno Rally, when another older white man, this one wearing an outfit with Vietnam patches on said to me hey. What are you doing shooting photos for? How could someone be that brazen in public I? Furious I I was mad about the racism second. Really crowd photos. I'm what an intern for. Isis? Not even senior management like goodness systemic discrimination exists in places you don't expect. I maintain my professionalism and finish what I was doing. Afterward. I walked up to him and said, Sir just. So you know I am not a member of Isis I worked for CBS News. He threw his hands up as if I was attacking him and said. I don't know who you are be glad. You're born country. Sir I am. Because I have the freedom to call you an asshole at book. You're an asshole. But my skin color never felt as hot as it did when the trump campaign went to Chicago. oftentimes, as a reporter chasing trump on the trail, you couldn't help but feel like you're pursuing carnival disguised as a presidential campaign. It was a big shiny object. Look there's trump giving out senator, Lindsey? Graham's phone number this happened. Look there's elephant. No, a real elephant. There actually was a real elephant outside of a trump rally. Oh, my trump just joked in front of thousands of people that are supporters wife was fantasizing about him in bed. Yes. This happened is that someone dressed like a southern border wall? That's not even the weirdest thing I've seen today because there's a man dress like colonel. Sanders about one hundred feet away. Both things happened. Protesters were mainstay of trump rallies and March twenty sixteen tempers were at a fever pitch. By this time, trump was the dominant running the Republican Party. Not just because of high polling, but because of actual winds. Kid won the New Hampshire and South Carolina primary by large margins in addition to the Nevada caucuses. He was winning so much that as he put it, your head will spin. One of the big storylines floating around trump's candidacy was the amount of violence at his rallies which many accused trump of encouraging. I watched hundreds. If not a couple thousand protesters get checked in from trump rallies over the course of being in bed, usually went the same way. The protesters may noise the crowd jeered frumpy. I'll get him out. Then he'd go on an extended rift, blasted the protesters, maybe mocking them go home to. Mommy. Maybe. Encouraging supporters to physically harm them. If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knocked the crap out of them. Maybe, inviting piece don't hurt him. The. Protesters were escorted out the rally and the show went on. We were used to this. Trump was supposed to have a rally in Chicago on March Eleventh Two Thousand Sixteen. As soon, as it was announced, the chatter of mass protests started making the rounds a week earlier, trump addressed a packed airport hangar outside New Orleans. And as he started speaking, he held up lying style a baby. He assigned and Baton Rouge an earlier rally. Just. In case you're ears glossed over that last sentence, he held up a baby. Autographed with an actual marker weeks before as if he was baby Simba in the lion. King. This Chicago rally was supposed to be held at the UIC pavilion on the University of Illinois at Chicago campus. As entered the arena hours beforehand, intensity was already palpable. Hundreds of yelling and chanting young protesters had taken over nearly the entire back half of the arena. Perhaps. Familiarity are wishful thinking and mentally played down the reports that there will be large scale protests. This happens at every rally. But it was another reporter is standing near, me may be reconsidered. Survey in the back of the room, she remarked some shit is going to go down tonight. I chuckled uneasily realize in somewhere in the back of my mind that she was probably right. This was more reality than carnival. The night started off normally enough when three men wearing white t shirts were rejected in an upper section of the arena. I jetted tour them with my camera to grab footage. Just in case it got rowdy. Their t shirts Red Muslims united against trump on the back. As the crowd chanted USA each man raise one fist in the air. No violence. There was an order to these things like clockwork. They were escorted out under an electronic scoreboard rating make America great again. I remarked to a slate reporter people think it's new, but this has been going on at trump rallies since at least November. It'll be ten more of these tonight. The back of my mind hadn't reached the front of my lips. What I didn't realize was that hundreds of protesters had gathered outside cable news running constant areas of the cram streets. The intensity started ramping up both inside and outside the arena. Mr Trump just arrived in, Chicago after meeting with law enforcement has determined that eventually much to the shock of all of us trump cancelled the rally about a half an hour before it was supposed to start setting pandemonium unlike anything. I'd ever seen. Thank you very much for your attendance. Scuffle story breaking out inside and outside and protests were becoming violent as demonstrators clashed with police. I grabbed my camera ran outside to gather footage for the network. Suddenly in a split second I felt the tug on the back of my sweatshirt and wasn't so much of a tug as it wasn't aggressive backward Yang for multiple police, officers, Whoa, WHOA WHOA WHOA Whoa. I was slammed into the ground. Put Your hands behind your back hands behind your back. My face was bashing to the streets by camera went flying. One of the officers put his boot to my neck and handcuff me. I hear nothing at this point. Other than the sound of the arresting officers, police, walkie talkie, blaring codes. The police officer walked away. I laid there on the street on my stomach in shock. The entire process took about thirty seconds. I never even saw the police officers faces. I just knew I was in pain and that a mistake had been made. Another officer eventually came and picked me up off the ground and escorted me to the police. Fan. I calmly informed him. That was a member of the press and asked why I've been arrested. Key very genuinely. I. Think said, he didn't know. For, the next couple of hours I was in police custody. I was able to however somehow while handcuffed reach into my pocket, grab my phone and alert the higher ups in the network that I had been arrested. Word spread like wildfire that I was attained. It turned out the Fox News had run video of my rest without realizing I was a journalist which ended up being will save me. Ask. You See. No one could seem to explain exactly why been thrown to the ground and handcuffed wasn't doing anything wrong. I didn't disobey any police officers. I was a journalist on a public street. Do my thing TWAS bizarrely charged with resisting arrest? Aside from the Fox News footage, my camera continued to rule. into. You could clearly hear me very politely ask Chicago Police officer why been arrested and unexpected highlight. The camera wasn't a police officers hand and still rolling while I was in the policeman. Retrieve the camera later. I played back the footage and heard one officer ask another about the camera. The other replied. It belongs to one of these heads. One of these Dick Heads please put that on my tombstone. The footage is what led the C. PD to drop. The charge was a couple of days later. I feel certain that a Fox News knew this would happen. They would not have aired my arrest. In a weird moment, I found out, the charges were dropped because reporter from, CNN call me to ask for comment. No wonder. The network bills itself as the home for news. I was asked recently, I was scared that night to be perfectly honest. I wasn't not because I'm the epitome of bravery or anything like that. Simply put. I was baffled being tired time whether I was on my stomach with my face looking at concrete or in the police van. I thought repeatedly, this is a huge mistake and someone who's going to come along and clear this up any minute now. On top of that was focused on my job, I footage to feed. Didn't hit me how serious and potentially dangerous situation was. During the first hour after the arrest is frustrated to be kept from doing the task Chicago to do. But. In the meantime I was sent to jail. I was led out later that night, and by that point, the story had gone viral. CBS Ran. Multiple stories about the incident, my phone's blowing up with text messages calls email. Hungary. Reporters miming a common I'm being. Arrested me, I was just hungry. I want to go to bed. COM BOSTON CBS to fill them in on what happened. Then went to the network satellite trucks and fed my footage of the New York. headquarters. In the process, I rewrote the incident from the vantage point of my camera. After precautionary trip to the hospital I, went to my hotel room, flip my phone silent and went to sleep. You might notice a missing sentence on there. Why did something stupid? Or Rather, I didn't do something. I forgot to tell my family what had happened. I was so tired that didn't even occur to me when I got back to my hotel room. I wanted nothing more than for my head to hit the pillow. I didn't want to discuss the incident or relive it. I wasn't traumatized. May journalists have been through much worse, but it was not something I'd ever experienced before. I figured I'd get in touch with my folks in the morning. and honestly, the last thing you want to do as a child brown parents is to call and tell them you've been arrested. I can just imagine it now me. Hey, mollison. I'm calling you from jail. I knew it. I. Knew this would happen I. told you. You should have went to Grad school. No Ma is not like that if you just listen for second, what did you do? All that drinking and drugging what? No I was sex wasn't it? You arrested for sex. I told you to focus on your studies and not the sexto. I can't believe I used my one phone call on this. Next Day, I. Woke to a phone call from my father in India. I thought it was going to be one of his catch up phone calls where Ibn for few minutes of Awkward, conversation about the weather. What happened my father yelled into the phone I. Said Oh Dad I. AM so sorry I didn't tell you basically I was in Chicago. We were here for trump rally in wait a minute. How did you know you live in India? He said you're in every newspaper in India. My son is star. Eventually made Swedish malls neighborhood Salt Lake. Basically the Brooklyn of Kolkata and slowly meandering to the height and imposing marvel hidden behind thick layer of security. My father began offering a few scant details about the life. You'd lives as moving here. I was extraordinarily careful about my health. It's very important. Sports, music practice, piano, accordion vocals. There's more. He said it did yoga and played golf plus tennis three times a week without fail jogging. Perhaps I haven't told you that I take lots of interest in cosmology he added. Great. I thought by data moved to India and become a hippie. Maybe, Nancy's band as much as I do. 'CAUSE MOLLY, looking forward to hearing about it. I said with a laugh. would. It be too much to ask my father if he would smoke pot with me. Nowadays, I'm busy watching the sky with binocular and everything. Jamal said deadly series. We Aski-. Wash Club. We meet every Saturday, he go camping twice a year to go outside and watched the planets. A lot of friends I asked. I had a feeling. I knew what the answer was going to be. No. He said he wasn't irked by it was matter of fact like when he was telling me about the writer, Rabindranath Tagore. To be honest with you I M my friend. And my accordion and my piano. binocular and my books, my art collections, they are my friends, my father said. But Dad I, want to say those are just things. I don't think you the difference. I'm not sure he ever had a friend. I A very dispend life. Very careful life. I'm okay. Full of spirit he said. Full Spirit on this. He was right. If. There's one thing he had much to my surprise. It was spirit. This level of rejuvenation had been unforeseen on my end. I spent the last eleven years looking for my own place in the world. And appeared the small had been looking for his. Own. This story was an excerpt from the book translations written and performed by so pandemic. The music for this episode was composed by Jordan. Holloman. You can find Jordan's music by going to Soundcloud Dot Com and searching his name. That's Jordan Holloman H. O. L. L. O. M. A. N.. We would also like to thank Alison at Harper Collins, helping to set this up and Kathleen Conti and Tucker Dalton at CDM. Sound studios in. Midtown. For engineering this episode, as well as Tim car plus for the next. Story bound is arranged, produced and hosted by me Jude Brewer are executive, Producers Jeff Umbro, the pod Llamas and Justin Alvarez of lit hub. This show's theme developed by Grain Table and thank you to, Modesto, Mingka's for this out show sample. You WanNa tell us what you think of the show will you can find us on twitter at story bound Pod, or you can tweet at me directly at Jude Brewery. New episodes are released every Tuesday. Next. Week, we'll get to hear a story from Khloe Caldwell. I wanted to bring something up and that was through working on this episode. I was. I was heartened by by so pans description of his father. I thought it was. very sweet. Especially, how his father would raise his voice and almost sound like he was yelling and reminded me of my own father especially the. The length of time in between. So and father seen one, another that also mirrored my own I own upbringing. My father grew up between Arkansas and California. Eventually settled in Tucson. Arizona. Where I had driven and met him when I was twenty two about nine years ago. I hadn't seen my dad since I was about seven. and. When my parents separated, you know they had exchanged letters over a period of You know several years and I'm getting to read those letters now Unfortunately. My father I had learned. He had passed away early on in the month of July and I just found out about a week ago. We had been in regular communication actually for the past eight or nine years since I met him. And You know we were texting and calling back regularly and I had just spoken to him, and he'd even left me a voicemail the day that he passed away. And that voice mail is going to be something that I'm going to have with me for the rest of my life because. That's just something that I've learned that the people who? Play, a very important role in your life. You have to find special ways to keep them around for as long as possible. I just wanted to dedicate this episode to my father and I wanted to thank everybody for listening this far, and and joining US along for the second season because you know a lot of these episodes, some of them we recorded before the pandemic many we've recorded during and and we're starting to record some others and. And they're just so many unpredictable elements out there obviously namely being the pandemic and some very upsetting political issues that are ongoing and have been for quite some time and It just means a lot to us that you tune in at all, and you listen to each of these writers stories and I really hope that you go out and you look at some of the musicians who've contributed. To, the show they work really hard. These are all original compositions and extraordinarily talented musicians and. I. Hope that you. 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"With john and congratulate him on another contest win. Congratulations good morning. The this one You know you you're obviously you're racking them up at this point that it's just been a good year very fortunate. You know Since i say you gotta give lucky. I think that rock starting to progress into success You know it is what it is. This weekend was good Definitely i think turn for giving us a platform to play like i always do You know in all the players that play. Let's let's talk about saturday and then we'll get Some wider some wider thoughts in enlarging ends up being the keyed everything the the key price of the day in a contentious fort. Lauderdale talk about landing on on larger. Basically i when i looked at the tournament i knew they had one hundred forty four entries and i figured you know i. I used to be a player that just pick winners. You know if i pick six or seven winners in going into the if it's a twelve race field and i just got to the point where it would be frustrating when you're trying to win a tournament and your your capital i captured by hitting all grief is but you're not winning the tournament because you getting a bomb coming in so i kinda change strategy and just started focusing on price horses that made the most sense and in that particular race. The fort lauderdale They had a few angles. That i felt were interesting. I was you had to todd. Pletcher horses in the race. Usually when that happens. I attend to go with the high price tourists. And in this case happened it'd be pletcher. And i knew cox would have factor this and and you know holiday would clutch on the lead and if we could get you know pretty good pace. It could set it up for poco coming down the stretch with launching I mean the horse was eight for eight in the morning. Had one racist so it. It made sense to me and that was the reason. I'll use logic. Besides the fact that i'm kind of weird and I like stuff like steve. Largent's gone. I absolutely understand that you know in fact who was it the other day that we had was it last week or the week before we had a conversation and You know one of those deciding factors is something you know something like that that you know that just sort of a you know in the back of the mind kind of a field and seventeen to one and this was this was not an uneasy horse to land on and especially when you consider a few things john about about this field because channel cat was fourteen to one shug with breaking. The rules was eleven to one. I mean there were. There were some other attractive prices. If you were going to look away from you know the the obvious favorites will. You're right and i mean i just looked at as i hit early in the tournament hit the first race which are tri-state lorenza horse As well as nico stream the barclay tagore said to one and that kind of set up so going into that race. I knew it is. It's christmas baby. And i have a chance to like this leaderboard up like a christmas food. Therefore if he hits and And the horse came through for me. And you know i. I definitely was making some noise at my house. Probably mavis probably wonder what was going on. But it's all well and that brings up an important point because a lot of people. The distractions the distractions. When you're playing from home they you know they can get at you and and you know i somebody said to me. You should ask john how he's able to concentrate and be able to follow the action when he has to run to the store for the wife. I'm always having to go. do tours. was gardening get dirty. Take out the trash. And it's like hold on the race going off. I need to see what's going on here. I gotta try this race but But can you do laundry but you know it is what it is you know with this oko would war. Living in everybody you know is in the same boat. So i it actually benefits me because i feel like i'm in my own environment at home so it actually helps me You know and. I'm sitting there in videos and messages to my group guys team and They're they're they're sitting there telling me like i don't know how many times he's trying to tell me. Especially like with the breeders cup and stuff focus focus like stop stop sending messages. Talk talk about Try saint lorenzo too because He's a horse. That came up on friday with nick camera. And this was a case of one of those horses that you know breaks through breaks the maiden after trial is and now is coming back you know in a non winners a two and this kind of a horse. There's tons of evidence and there's tons of players that loves going back to a breakthrough maiden winner coming right back at to win again. The proverbial light bulb going on. Yeah i mean. I felt the same way. I mean the main thing for me but try san lorenzo. The it was a closer and i thought it had a chance And i liked the price. I mean a lot of times in these tournaments. You gotta start off. It's it's kind of be beneficial if you hit a seven or eight to one Off the gate because then people are trying to catch in. There may be taking horses. They might not want to take and it kind of forces other players out of the tournament early on well and this was this was really a great way to a great way to start because yen with a essentially a twenty dollar winner nineteen forty and just looking at the leaderboard. There were quite a few people actually. I'm just noticing. Evan trimmer who finished third. He had try saint lorenzo. Tom aren't who was fifth He had try. Saint guillem david. Barnier sean nolan steve lombardo. This is all in the top ten top twelve. You ended up with one hundred. Nineteen forty and You you were clear from tom. Blosser by good steam box trauma block of both had You know the six horse so they were both on that horses. Well that's true. Just no in fact the top four finishers all had large in you. Tom blosser evan. Trauma and brayden selvik round out the top four and we should tell people this was worth. This was a fifteen thousand dollar win. saturday yeah. It was. it was a good win. i mean we. We've been very fortunate this year. I've had some You know pretty. Decent scores I test that to the people who have you know took me in and taught me the game You know the odyssey. My my stories knowing that I was on a horse. Players reality show pilot. Didn't make this show. And you know the bay charts and in Into hellmers of the world and they taught me the the game. And i was very fortunate and it's starting to visit come in later in life Six seven years down the road I've been very fortunate to be guys. Like erick tinny arrow in the san breath and our ford and my my my brother from another mother dogs zillow baby and shoes issue bobby. Shoemaker does a great job he whenever have questions he always answers them and he's one of the best handicap is out but but dogs zillah just on a different planet I'll put him up against anybody. You name the sport we could be back on. Ants crawling up a wall and industrial is going to win of course Doc zella vian. Anthony tries a doctor tresor and in absolute virtually everybody. You're mentioning. He just has had a protracted success. Whether it straight you know just horse play in general or in the contest side. And i john. I think it's interesting that you you noted that you changed your approach when it comes to the contest play and this is one of the things that you know when when we've discussed the contests over the years particularly something like this. This is a pick and pray style being able to pick winners is is obviously part of it. Identifying courses that can win but then strategically the game theory element in terms of being willing to pick the potential winner at the best price available and open yourself up to these millions and in tinkering with the approach. You know that turns you know good players and good handicappers into better on tests players. Because i i. I personally have found it. Maddening that to me. That's been the whenever. I've tried to play a contest. It that part of it seemed nuts is being able to step away from the logical horse. I mean a lot of times for me. A decent price will be to me the logical horse. But i have not been able to translate it into you know picking winners that you know. Put together a contest win. And i think that's the hardest thing for people. I mean the the thing is you've got to vulnerable favorite and if you can find a vulnerable favourite and for me i just say okay. Favorite going to be on the lead. Okay i'm looking for a price source coming from the from the closing and vice versa That that's kinda how i make him more simple I come at it from a different perspective. Because i really wasn't a handicap. I was more of a fantasy football type guy and so when i came into Horse racing I think i had it from a different angle. I wasn't i don't get. I don't indulge myself and all the ps and the recent form and you know all that i i i just i just look at time forms and stuff like that to really. Show me the clarity of the race. And then i go through and pick it apart and and go from there and look for the favorite and the pro bomb. When you're when you're not playing in contests talk about you. Know your your general bankroll play and what. You're you know what you're all along. I i don't really bet the horses much To be honest The breeders cup. I got into Had one in four days before the tournament and took my shot You know. I i actually was in ninth at one point He hit hit a nice double. And then. I said you know what i'm not ever have this stance again who knows. So i'm just gonna take a shot. And i went strong With a with a wind bit. And if i'd have been right You know we we. We might be the breeders cup champion from this year. But you know everybody has similar stories but It's no secret you can go condie On the website. And you can see what my plays were and Took a pretty pretty big shot. And i like eleven horses It's my number and hit. Hit double five eleven. Six hundred dollar a double with nico go. I mean nick's go and And the european bomb the eleven right after that. And then i took my chance would eyeball. I felt i had a chance to win the race. It was an eleven horse. I just hit an eleven horse and you know strong on it and took my shot. I love it. That's pretty funny. But honestly i don't. I don't really bet a horse daily. I'll play pick six here and there but for me. i really honestly. I for to the champ. Sending me You know he'll do these. Pick six shares. And he's picked five shares and i mean i can't even get to the phone fast enough. I can't click the button. Betting on twin spires. I mean you know that's funny and you know it. Also because the contest format and like looking at at saturday for instance acqueduct tampa laurel gulfstream so four venues. And if you're not playing every day you aren't necessarily watching and you're not necessarily plugged in to know particularly i think the the laurels in the tampa. You would think that ecuador gulfstream might be more you know as the tracks versus the be tracks so in a lot cases when you open up those. Pp's on saturday. You know you're acquainting yourself with you know with venues that you aren't necessarily watching during the week or of course i mean i'm definitely a disadvantage in tournaments when it comes to to be honest i mean i'm focused on fantasy football and and You know eagles covering on the saints. Yesterday i know that she team and Like the eagles to covid it to win outright with was was impressive I'm really happy for you. And i got a buddy. Steve ward from philadelphia and You know that's my focus. When it comes to the races i literally. It's five thirty in the morning on saturday. I'm looking at the call. And that's the first time. I've seen these offices and i i just i had to handicap really quick as my son's getting up seven thirty eight. He's ready to play. So i gotta have everything done early and And and you're right. I i am at a disadvantage from that standpoint and but i found out i just go through and you gotta you gotta analyze data as fast as you can and you. You eliminate the horses. You don't like this. Look at the what she likes. The scratches on boom boom boom you know you put the picks in and it was listening to that it kind of feels like you can roll with with the results to you're you're not going to dwell on On getting beat. And you know you. Just doesn't i don't sense that that throw you ever get thrown necessarily for an and get You know kind of down on your on your approach. No i mean. I don't at all i mean t. I'll walk you through this weekend. This weekend i took a shot at one one. My way in with the early feeder for whatever it was Twenty fifty bucks whatever was and then you know a hurry up and handicapped placard right before and you know. It's just eliminating the like like blink malcolm global book that the champ put me on inches making quick decisions and i think that's what helps me is. I don't over think it. I don't know an over analyze it. I just i go with it. I mean i was. I was i. The funny part is as soon as i wanted to. Tournament didn't even realize my proxy from vegas calls me and says hey you know put your supercar tests picks and and Me and the team who that we end up On it right now for the for the vegas millions of and so we. I had to give him the picks while i'm watching. What's coming down the stretch to win to win the tournament So i'm i have so many different things going on you know an f. f. p. c. which is high stakes. Fantasy football I i made the playoffs with both my team. So i'm i'm looking at Injury reports so. It's crazy that i have that much going on and then i'm just hurrying up and getting my picks in the whole storm it. So it's i think. I think having that much going on and being able to analyze that data fast as possible Is what helps me. Because i don't think things well and fold you you. Basically it's a natural. John heard with us hurricane. Ask it folds into your into your day job right. I mean when it comes to when it comes to data analysis. Yeah i mean. That's that's that's what i do. I quit equity for a living and so for me Picking horses is is a is a lot easier you know and especially with With analyzing data. I mean you gotta be quick at it and either have the. Don't that's what i tell people i can. You teach me how to do this. I i. i can't either happy. Don't if a gift it's it's hard to explain You know and it's it's like a a buddy of mine. He's from memphis. Tennessee is named smart good belly. The biggest preowned call in tennessee and He he is called. It's all good all auto sales and it's funny because he's in the name of it is it's all good auto sales and for me whenever i missed something or win something. I'm always like it's all good so he doesn't seem i don't think about it after that is my point You know i really. Don't i just kind of move forward if i if i miss a race. I go onto the next race. And that's the key to many people. They get frustrated because they miss of a bomb or they beat on race and they can't go to the next race fast enough. You've got to forget the past and move forward. You can't be looking in the rear view mirror. i quickly. i quickly looked up. It's all good auto sales. And i guess i guess your man. Mark has got famous in memphis for wacky commercials. Yeah he his his. I love say and it's I don't care about your credit. I care about you baby so i mean and that's how it is you. Can't you invites people in my worry about themselves. Too much in life you gotta you gotta be a people person and you gotta care about others so like on twitter the other night some guys like how the heck did you have launch like. How do you have that horse. And so i took the time. You know i. I gave him my a realistic answer on twitter and You know. I try to help people because people helped me we all. That's this world works. You know whether you're democrat or republican whatever. It doesn't matter if it's about being working americans to move forward and get through this covert and get through everything. We're going through the country while said and hopefully that That message can can resonate looking and going back to large where we started the conversation it. It is fun to when when price horses produce and they win. It is fun to go back. If you didn't have them try to figure out from what angle was was it. A pace scenario was You know a horse that was was developing and took a logical next step As somebody that's a big big user of third graph sheet methodology and you know and the patterns that horses are are seemingly moving away or regressing or dancing and margin was not a horse of straightforward. L'argent was not a horse at least from from from fig standpoint that you seem to be very competitive in here. He seemed like a marginal player. And so that's why separating him at at that price at seventeen to one And what was he on the morning wine. I think he was He was twenty to one so we. Twenty two one. Yeah so he took the took a couple of shackles and came down a little bit not a lot but you know that that's the differential is weighing as we said to start things out. I mean to me breaking the rules and was going to be a square price and so he was the horse that i i was asked on on friday. When we were handy. campy stuff. Who did i love breaking the rules. I think is going to be where number And he ended up third in here but those are the decisions that say that either. Make a difference on. We're losing for the day Or in this case a contest. That's why i mean. I think one hundred forty four entries and only non-players horse and it's always you had to have and you gotta be able to in these contest even if you have a favorite and let's say it's a bastard or it's a tad brown on turf and it's a heavy favourite. You have to be disciplined to say. Look if this is pick and pray. I can't use a horse. I gotta find a horse. I can beat it. And what's the most logical horse that can beat it at a price because if you have that that heavy favorite it's not going to really move the needle right there on you. You need to be using these price horses. That's the way you use yourself in these contests exactly exactly right. John heard with us. There gained this was. This was just a straight cash prize contest. This was not this was not by the way a an nhc qualifier just straightforward chance to win money and as you said one hundred and forty four entries distant Ninety dollars below fifteen thousand. And what'd you. How much did you pay to In the in the plan in the quality early morning man. I think it was eighteen. Yeah it was like twenty bucks. I think it was it was cheap. I mean i just. And that's what i'm saying that to be able to turn that into the payout that i received i mean it's it's crazy to think that but it happens. It happens all the time on turns and That's how a love supporting mckay. Eric wing because they give us the platform the play on. You know it's it's i mean. Think you putting twenty dollars and at the end of the day bloomberg being. You know fifteen grants. I mean that's not an atm. Well and whether it's whether it's cash like this just a cash contests or whether it's playing toward an nhc seat or any of the big contest. Bbc and and You know some of the the you know the big esab beauty of it then you can qualify for these tournaments exactly. I've qualify every year pretty much through To tournament site so in the nhc. It'll be interesting this year. You know. I've got to the point where i'm not gonna sit there and just pick favorites like i used to and end up in you know three hundred place. I'm i'm i'm going to go for the win. I'm gonna take bombs. And and and see where if i can get on the top ten table well and you had. You had twenty thirty and thirty six dollar winners on saturday and on that topic actually i. I mentioned this at the top of the show. Because i said to casey i asked case to look up when you joined us earlier in the year and i thought it was june july august and with the you know the nhc in vegas in august. It's going to be a very different landscape with with saratoga del mar analysis as the major venues. I think it it offers a really interesting wrinkle to how everybody is going to is going to approach it. I mean these are. This is wheelhouse time for for the horse playing community. Yeah you're right. I it really is I think it'll help you know. I'll be sitting at a table with with dogville into champ and big ben bay chalk and our ford and eric pineyro shine baratz. So i think that'll be beneficial for me. Because i'm gonna rely on those guys i'm gonna ask him. Hey who you like you. You like that because some of those tracks. I'm not. I'm not as good as so. They have an opinion. I'm certainly going to listen to them. When i'm handicapping the races. 'cause i'm i'm a handicap on the fly. Well we're you know. We're still a just off the duke matisse and Duke hasn't qualified but he hasn't played many contests and a reminder again. January twenty third is going to be the end of twenty twenty one qualifiers. You got one you got one seat right now or or two I got one seat right now. i'm going to bet certainly try for another another seat. It's definitely pen official. I have to cease because more bonded. You can use I mean like. I remember a couple years ago The shoe bobby shoemaker. We we we were sitting there and he He's like anybody like anything. I got one pick laugh. He was on one or two horses. And i said man like this. I had Fairgrounds and he looked at me. Like i was crazy. I'm like i'm telling you can win. He's a first timer and She looked at him. He's like man. I actually like him. He used him sixty four to one. Shot boom why the feel and in the shubays jumped up the leaderboard. So you know you gotta be humble in his game and you gotta be able to listen to your friends and see if see what they like to because they might see an angle that you're not seeing. And and i'm a big proponent of being humble and listen to what others have to say. because there's a lotta great handicappers out there. I mean ben. Ben baby taki helps me all the time. I can't think that guy enough. I mean he's he's always positive always saying. Hey you you have you have that. It factor you. You can be one of the best. You gotta believe it yourself and you gotta be able to Channel your your gain and and adjust depending on the tournament and and that's that that that has really helped me to really has been able villa. He's he pushes me all the time to say i want conviction. Give me give me a horse. He thinks in a win or give me. Don't don't don't don't give me a teaser. Tell me who's gonna win this this this game and And i think that helps me as grow as a As better by just being conviction and not not not hesitating on on decisions you know. It's kim. I got it. Because i gotta ask this. Follow up to that then. The not the table approach but per se vallat bouncing bouncing options off amongst the group. Nobody has any nobody at. The table is about sharing their their ideas. That way or i mean this is a thing people talk about collusion and all these things you know whatever i get it but it's not to collude what we do. Is we just talk about the racist. So if somebody likes something and you don't see that angle right then you're going to go look at bad race and say well. What does he see that. I'm not seeing in this race and you're gonna take the time to identify that voice and if it sense to you then heck yeah. I'm gonna go play that horse. I am my own man. I make my own decisions and You know. I i. If i if i'm going to bet money on a horse so i'm pick awards on a contest. Nobody's putting a gun to my head to do that. I'm going to do it because that that that's a horse i think and win the race And i think that goes for for most players out there You know and and for me. I love the camaraderie of that. The nhc brings and the table aspect of everything. I mean heck we gotta table bet against Jk every year. We've never beaten known. So maybe this year. We'll see more focused on the j. I am too. I love it. I know now that you say that. I forgot the that gets that gets a lot of play. When we're vegas. Eric guy sitting pretty dangerous So you know we're gonna get them one year. I mean they've literally beat us every year. But we're going to get them. I absolutely Concur they'll be they'll be your turn at some point. Maybe maybe maybe some gooey. Get louise in there that that could that might put you over the top. Yeah maybe that would be if the would join the team who clan. I think maybe that would put us over the top of j k. He's been on fire this year. He's good absolutely he's had a great year Doubt and that included the you know the great. The just the great run at the bbc and i i. I'm i'm going to have to adjust the thinking. Because i said this the other day i i'm you know we're gonna get to christmas and i'm already this week normally would have been in arizona and california and then after christmas would be gearing up to get ready for vegas and and the normal you know the normal winter travel schedule which basically came to a halt In in the beginning of march this year. And i suppose it might pick back up by by late march it. It's really been it's been difficult How have you been. Have you been impacted A business wise. I guess They really i. I know there's been some volatility but Have been good. I mean look the laptop. And that's all i need my clients and whatnot but it you know that the cova think that everybody about what no matter who it is and whatever field you're in you know it's it's really hurt the economy in minnea- aspects. But i think what we would. I believe is that you know as an american is that you know we're resilient and and resilient see will will come through and we're gonna get through. This is a country. Not just me as a person john heard. I mean i. I'm gonna get through it No matter what you 'cause. I surround myself around successful people and the positive people But i think that you know a feel for people like you know. Not that don't have jobs. They lost their job through a lot of that. And you know it's it's sad. But i think that you know like going back to you. I hope that we still have a lot of people. Show up the committee that's there's a lot of camaraderie there and you see a lot of great people and you know. Hopefully we all get through this and the nhc is the nhc past. And you know everybody's there. I mean one thing i love. Is you sit in a room. And then you got this eighty year old guy yelling boom or whatever and i'm sitting here man. That's great guy. He had a bomb and he's going crazy and sometimes on my man. This guy's more juice than i am. What am i doing. I gotta i gotta hit something here. You know so. I i liked being in the room in in in in that aspect of the nhc. John hurt everybody the hurricane and you should be following it it is. It's a roller coaster. Ride win or lose whether it's Football the the team The the fantasy action or whether it's a contest play like this weekend. How has your football season gone. Been great. I mean it's it it really has been in fantasy football the f. Fcc is the highest stakes fantasy football league out there. I was actually leading it in two thousand twelve the whole tournament and and literally lost on the weekend. Three hundred grand and finished. I think a good This year. I got my both my entries. I'm excited about the both in the The championship browns One my individual leaks and so from a fantasy football standpoint. You know doing really well this year and hopefully you know a little bit of luck might my bill into the top fifty and getting the money as well as on the vegas supercar test. I mean we were sitting in the maze on her. So you know dogville an animal picking so he's got us up there and you never know you know we. We only five at five or six games out of the picks out of the leader so overall it's been a. It's been a great year. I think being at home helps me. Focus 'cause i. I have six screens in front of me. And i'm constantly every day doing work. John hurt everybody hurricane Well done congratulations. I suppose some some extra christmas Goodies for the family. Hey it's gonna be a christmas. That's for sure man. I've been very fortunate this year. And i have a lot of people. Thank for that and you know it's it it's really been good and hopefully we can continue through the nhc. John thanks so much great to get you back on a great year you've had and Hopefully it moves on and continues through twenty twenty one hay fever here. Say thank you for all you do. I'm so excited to be on your show. I appreciate it every time you're instrumental and move in our sport forward. You're a legend of the game. You're the goat. And i love listening to you in the morning and you always have great interviews and you know i hope i'm back. Welcome anytime because You you do a great job and who baby who is eric. Thanks so much guide. Happy healthy and merry christmas. You steve john He's a live wire the that team who dat. They've set him loose on the horse playing community where the top of the hour. We're gonna we're actually going to stay. We're actually going to stay in the bayou After the break because colby hernandez is gonna join us. And i wanted to get some of the back story behind the big price grand luigi that won. The louisiana champions classic gerard parole. The said this out the corridor veteran fifty. What was it. where is it fifty three to one unbelievable anyway. Kobe hernandez when we come back at the races. The races with feedback on sirius. Xm radio there's a great story. Thailand pennsylvania only unlike the national trend in this year's live full report shows pennsylvania up over fifty percent why are incentives and bonuses are the best in north america. Please visit us at. Pa pride dot com and see why pennsylvania is the premier place to breed them race. Exciting southern california thoroughbred daytime racing circuit continues with the county fair. Meet at los alamitos race. Course the meat is off to a great start with strong fields throughout and the stakes action continues at the orange county track headed by the los alamos futurity on saturday. December nineteenth fifty jordi a seat some tremendous winners in years past like standouts mckinsey in two thousand seventeen improbable. 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And when the snows the suss leaving wa- missiles ben olsen linked on the bedroom and stay yarmuth afyon from high. As so there you go. That's our card. Produced a hundred dollar winner in the classic grand luigi under cj for gerard. Parole who bred this l. corridor five year old as well as the trains and colby. Welcome and congratulations. Thank you it's my pleasure i use. This is a fun story to tell us about this horse and what the expectations were going in. Going into the race house looked at it. And i think he he had texture speedy. Mommy's short so i say well we're gonna try to lead their can can kinda hard and if if anybody try to chase. We'll sit right off. But the whole time i was plan on just put put on china nurse from there. You have to fend off. That was a terrific so that was terrific stretch duel to when shang got to you and you lost the just so happens. That stretch call They had shang chart. They've got chang putting the nose in front. And here's you know. Here's a fifty to one shot staying with the favorite. My heart dug in whenever she editor he dougie and he he he heard on. That's just tremendous you. You've got you've got it seems A a real good opportunity. This this fairgrounds meet. We haven't really had a chance since thanksgiving to talk much about the start of the season. And there's you know the weather was terrible the first week and it took Couldn't get a grass race in crazy but it seems like we're getting into a nike flow. And you you've got an interesting situation because you ride for the big barns that come to town and then you've also got the relationship you know year round from the rest of the circuit. Yes yes i have. I have a good louisiana visit. And i have good yes. What's the first time ever road. The harsh when. I walked through the pilot and they're was a team out seeking to try to put on leave and then just go from there. It worked. Well you know. They say they say the horses don't know that they're fifty to one. But the jockeys do know though i wrote about in the program looking at the program it that look like you should have been something to watch trump spare. He was the one and I rode with confidence in ran a great race. I love it. Well the pays one hundred and seven talk about the talk about the winter and the expectations coming in. We have some good business going on right now and just hope layer. Stay healthy and keep doing well. I like it and got to got to mention you know from from a family perspective. It's gotta be fun when brian comes down right because the reactor stay healthy this winter and we'll we'll see in the winter circle. I think pretty regularly looks like all right. Thank you colby hernandez cj. And of course brother. moran vj hernandez there's there's all there's a baffle of them. I think there's four brothers is a whole bunch. How many we have three brothers and one sister my sister for a little walk and had enough. She had her when she had a kid. And then she quit. Sh- well that day that The that that's a that's a tough thing to to come back from and there's but there's a i think about Carol sedano up in up in the mid atlantic she has come back a couple of times. It's it's not you know family leave. Look at look at rosie. Nick who stepped away at the at the top of her career to have a family and even what it doesn't even have to be riders either Call the because We had this. We had this This conversation going back Cup was it a couple of months ago. It it's a demand you know it. It's it's hard for when it comes to stepping away and then and then trying to come back. How pitts who are thinking of helen. Helen stepped out and then paused at the positive. Any career have a family. So it's It's a lifestyle and what about your other brother. Didn't he wasn't the other riding a little not a lot. Not my my other brother never wrote here. He's never been interested in the horse racing at all interesting. Yes that's funny works that's all right to. That's a different kind of horsepower. Colby the merry christmas happy healthy and continued success. This season all right based on your show. Pleasure is everybody and the rydin hernandez and i'd forgotten that That that he that the busted out and came and came up to kentucky and indiana and you know as much as we watched indiana diem. Come over and ride right some analysis to this summer. Great there hernandez i guess. We'll stay here actually case and We're looking for steve anderson To talk a little. I wanted to get steven to talk about the the the quarter action over the weekend as well as everything else at At los out. And the los al. I not to take away from the stake winner by any means that Carla gains sent out saturday in the soviet problem that sensible cat but the the performance that And i'm just looking for the chart. The performance to talk about was that that philly at moonlight doro chart. Because i i had saved it from. Set it aside actually from friday when i when i pulled it together for goodness sake. Nothing drives me crazier than these snacks of things on the on the desk. Maybe it's a multi page that. I do that. This was that the philly race. That had the Baffled Had a nice very nice Philly in there too and the two of the frost frost area for area and amazing. Every everything else is here. Here's the here's the art sherman winter. Mazing there was baffert also one for day and with that That per tonico medina spirit. But the amazing. I don't know what i did with that charge. Because i wanted there was some had agree to it as well. Wow and you know it wasn't even it wasn't it wasn't like this was such a such a loaded weekend that i would be inundated with with the pp's as much as as usual. There is finally holy cow literally at the bottom of the bottom of the pile. there was also The older baffert also had a the coolmore winner. Yesterday as time goes by the american pharaoh broke through had been Third and then second behind him. He go this three year old. Villi out of take charge lady. This was in a certainly was expected for her to be a nice one. So it took a third start but As time goes by yesterday you might have seen Fairly early in the day for coolmore should look the fake but then about an hour later. Moonlight doro and frost area they were. They were dozen lengths clear of the rest of the field and moonlight doro. Overpowered frost area went on to win and was favored Just under even money for asteria just over even money just a under says sixty five but these two are obviously real nice. This was frost areas third. Start and this is another fancy bread. This is the hysterical. Frosted philly baffert. Took the blinkers off and she ran fine In fact she improved But she ran into a buzzsaw in her third start as well moonlight dora. This is a spendthrift My racehorse thing and a six hundred and twenty thousand dollar. Purchase bread by stonehaven and paul from this summer. Remember way back to del mar. She disappointed at three to five and then ran into that nasseredine and she in styria. We're both in. That race was second in there. So look for frostier next time and Eighty seven buyer for moonlight doro. So another Other sassy looking to hero philly good. It's been it's been a good fall for the phillies. Santa course this. I mentioned the carla gains winter in the cow bread. This was a problem combination. Sire and and Cow bread eligible program and sensible cat was news. Ninety two urban and Sensible cat it's funny. This is a bluegrass cat out of a street. Sense mayor sensible girl and you know how often when people name their horses the hybrid dame you know what i mean it just basically taking the name from the sally and the name from the the day and in this particular case. It would've worked out either way because this could have been bluegrass girl or sensible cat. This is a very rare rare situation because so often people do this and you just sort of cringe in this particular case. It really worked bluegrass girl. Wasn't i doubt that that was eligible but sensible at. That's okay a maiden winter a mile grass last time at the bar and it actually debuted on labor day weekend on the jerk but really moved up on the grass and now returns to the dirt and wins so kind of mixed signals from a pedigree standpoint and previous performance standpoint for sensible. It's pretty funny. They can be left bluegrass. Bluegrass girl or sensible cat. Well done that is not my tendency to when we go to name horse we different kind of a different approach. I understand i. Don't i don't know you know no not casting aspersions on that on that style of approach. Well we're cases trying for steve. And we're we're not an all right right. Let me the vamping here. Obviously but it doesn't look like we're going to connect steve's funny i mean he'll get he'll be up in the barnes and you know then you can do. Maybe we'll get him tomorrow because we're what are we at fifteen minutes. Let me do the rest of the fairgrounds accurate from the weekend. And go through the the states Sequence and it started with the lassie for the two year old fillies. Big time for co for kobe's brother brian. This is dallas stuart and the lean farms people. She was second choice. They'd seven twenty over taylor avenue bret calhoun. I wonder if that Taylor in chicago. Taylor taylor avenue i think this avenue taylor. Big time though wins by three. This is an astrology philly. Out of an old forster mare bred by tom. Curtis wayne simpson the on allowance. joe foster the ladies sprint. These were the phillies in mayors. Go in short and Mitch merle boot zome. Our lost love for joe foster so a foster double Between the sixth and the seventh and this was this exciting The top two choices run one. Two in here are loss. Love was was three to one. So merle. Over mr owls gal for jose tristar racing bread and owns this half hours. Three year old filly. Our lost love wired wire but it was then came the ladies turf and kind of co-favourite room to finish an offspring went off very close in price and room to finish for the catman wayne. Catalano this is a giant oak mayor five year. Old bread by mike. Meeks west point forge ahead stables and jerry karoo they They own room to finish and at other chiesa aboard and she wins. Clear the five year. Old over netto bear allen landry in the ladies tough the monte man also but she's a custom for carlos gelding seven year old. That's plenty of dances ron for show for ivory sitters racing and Vowel merle bread is Seven year old. Six one actually got fourteen bucks here and this was actually a really juicy Return because three to two favorite birdies galaxy was off the board and birdies galaxy. Also ron show so in this case it was. It was the other for show and he ended up with. You ended up with a twenty three to one shot. Silver galaxy was third and x. clown fourth and as a result You ended up listening to these numbers. You had Forty five dollar exact. But a essentially a four hundred dollar try three ninety five and ten cent super eight three fifty four so thirty five hundred dollar super for a buck with the favourite Well off the board in the juvenile in the boys race marino. Pedroza even money for you. Robertson extreme racing with the palace colts or wellington took over and one clear standing. Perfect second for lee thomas but this is a palace colt out of a gram hall mayor. Bc as thoroughbreds bread and Extreme racing owns ninety one assault with a repeat in the turf this time. Morley and that horse the owns with paul braverman. The seven-year-old ninety one assault the artie. Schiller gelding sean. Bridgman aboard here. A three to two favorite nickel dime over eight five twenty and we told you about the the classic. Obviously grand luigi the corridor. Five year old. And he's still a horse. Actually he's not. he's not gelded. And he's out of a gold. Fever mir magical mia interesting. I wonder how she got down there. A veteran gonna look her up a veggie. She was a new york bread and juice. One that maiden special to close out the card again for Ran for show and state and flurry. This was a half hours. Colt first time starter. Back first time starters were one to was almost nine one paid nineteen eighty juice half hours out of power vision mayor so nice Louisiana champions day and as i mentioned super. Santa saturday which marcus hirsch. Hit the least favorite when we talk. Marcus he just like. I don't like to say that thing about about Horses that that third year. Oh thank you. I said two years in a row. the The horse of morley's three years in a row he's one that turf race Just like i don't like to say those horses that are coming to preakness without having run in the derby. Just just like that just loves me the wrong way. Marcus feels the same way about super. Santa saturday at fairgrounds cringes whatever whatever he says that whatever whatever rolls around couple of a couple of things i i've probably close the show with something with a little a little sad that We we talked about last week. But really didn't get a chance to What can you lose you. I didn't really get a chance to discuss it and fall in fact in so that i don't send the young so don't close things out slow. I'll save a little piece of news from the museum from the hall of fame for last last week. You know we. We were hoping that gary contessa started a lot of his sources. Lot of the horses that he would that he would buy at auction And it was you would start. And and i as i've explained Chuck simon introduced me to kenny. And so we got sable chasms started with kenny as well as as at least two or three hours and including Including the recently retired carlisle bell. But gary he was at the sale and and And then he. I think i think it was a lot to ask for Would have been a little overwhelming But tom than torah semi just a beautiful tribute that kenny's wife carey wrote and i wanna read it because it it's just it's it's perfect and i think people would appreciate it. I'm sure that that she will and You know the the the thing that is so tough to take about kennedy passing. Is that it. It seemed that he that he had the the original cancer diagnosis and treatment. That it seemed like he had the cancer at bay and then wasn't feeling great and was having headaches and it had turned up and moved to the brain and Was literally gone in in days after it was discovered But i i think you'll appreciate it This is from kerry lagoon. The racing world just lost a fan kellen died at home on friday december fourth. After brief illness it is forty plus your career as a jockey trainer bloodstock agent and all things in between but i always a fan. He quietly went about his business. No advertisements and parties rarely mentioned in the trades. That wasn't his thing. His involvement in horse racing reach far and wide. They're not too many people. I can think of in the business who have not asked him to train. Examine fix by sal evaluate or shelter oars. He loved every minute of it. It was his life's blood. We met at delta downs in winter of nineteen eighty. He was hungry trying to ride thoroughbreds until the quarter horse meat game in the spring we lived in attack raw. We married four months later and still did not a running car no matter we at each other and racing. He wrote a matched race. The day we were wet he wrote racist for several years sometimes away from home for months other times dragging the family along hotel to hotel. We eventually moved lock stock and barrel to oak to ocala with sixty five dollars and a tank of gas. He started breaking thoroughbreds for various farms. The first being for fred hooper where he was the regular rider of persist. When race riding ended he dreamed of training and buying houses. The first horse he sold went to jack fan. Burn or worse given to him as a thank you for getting up at four. Thirty a m to gallup a few horses prior to his usual job. He enjoyed helping others in the business. And that's where he spent most of any prophet. He partied in the early two thousands and a few cheap horses one which he bought as a field buddy for thirteen hundred. The came my name. Say kerry's gold who fell just short of sweeping the florida stallion series around two thousand and one or two bad feeder might bad feet. He worked endlessly on those bad fate. New york trey. Gary contessa was the first prominent trainer to see talent and horsemanship and soon ken was in business. Big way in later years became close friends of jim and susan help and enjoyed many racing related and personal trips together all while talking horses always talking courses over the years he had the good fortune of finding or developing some of the best piece rules divine park genuine devotion and xvbeauty bay to bay clearly. Now flip cup and just recently totally boss go f- Guffaw and many many others some. I'm sure i've forgotten. He was a true cajun and he never left his roots. He enjoyed fishing in the gulf a few beers at the end of the day at a stop at the farm to check on the horses. He found total happiness and sitting on a pony watching charges. March like soldiers to the track is faithful dog. Sissy always following behind logging miles every day to keep up with them she never wavered although he was ill even he did not know in the end. That would come so soon. He lived life by dropping consumed every last bit. It may have seemed unfair but it was long enough. He adored and was so proud of our children. John and piper and. I'm sure that everyone's ear speak of their success. They in turn door him. And i'm proud to say inherited a strong work ethic humble gratitude and committment of service to others to those who believed in him. I thank you. You allowed him to earn a living in the sport that he loved for almost forty years tagged along for the wonderful ride kerry lagoon about husband. Kenny lose you a friend and colleague of countless countless people in the game. And i just wish carry the best For what will probably difficult holiday season but also for for piper Who is health issues. I'm around so wish civil issues kind of family. Populates this industry these news. Just come out in the last half hour or so and ryan sending along the announcement of couple of inductions to the joe hirsch media roll of honour at the hall and two very familiar names One a little in the past one. Still current tab is been added to the meteorology. Honor the joe hirsch and congratulations. Ninety four now is pab. And of course french born and raised and You know his his work Started out in in french publications before reaching these shores and Started in As a staffer. I'm sure when we talked to Steve asking on thursday civil talk about Have started in nineteen fifty five in the morning. Telegraph and anybody. i mean. obviously of a h. i. Anybody living that that's ever bought a racing for at one time or another. I've got boxes of big day racing forms with with the drawings it there the the whimsical wonderful Have artwork really a fabulous inclusion into the media wing of the hall. So congratulations to have. The other name came up just the other day just last week the lack and i and i'm sort of surprised that i didn't realize that leg it wasn't already in The jewish wing of of the hall. I brought up leg last week. When when dick allen passed. And in fact i sent that remarkable nineteen sixty four legged preseason end end of spring training article. That was just amazing. The names that were involved. The other rookies like like both tony. Leyva and tony clinically. Ero and i. It's just amazing. It focused on on dick allen and leg it for those that don't realize was from saratoga born and raised in saratoga and i reached out to When when When last week when when dick allen passed that and i reached out to a couple of different a couple of different directions for sports writers white kind of it hoped had had made cross paths with with legged and didn't wasn't able to make that happen but i knew that i knew that he started at sports illustrated In fact i had a conversation when i said sent that article to girardi and and he said that he was somewhat surprised that that that they had given legged that he had written matt baseball piece. You know that if first and foremost On the turf riding circuit And i guess. I guess whitney tower. You probably answer this too. I guess whitney tower. I guess they overlapped right. They must've overlapped at sports illustrated. Anyway bill legged added to the joe media the joe hirsch media wing of the hall and tower certainly in their boy. It's been ten years. This'll be this will be Ten years ten classes. Steve crystal neck red smith early hatton. Ross harris joe palmer j hubby whitney tower. Andy buyer kent hollingsworth. Georgia'll january's jim. Murray steve asking raleigh boroughs. Mary jean wall. Jim mckay mike beach jack. Whitaker barney nagler. Joe bertram tom and charlies canty and bleat read and now had and pretty distinct pretty good. Can't think of got to think about who else there's more there's there's every they'll be able to come up with a couple of others Anyway so there you go We will come back with the more tomorrow including todd pletcher. Andy stirling steve anderson and more fun morning and wanna thank powell for the hong kong. Recap danny guardian tax duke matisse john coby hernandez gulag if you're planted. Everybody talk to you tomorrow.

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783: Build a world class self-relationship

The Ziglar Show

28:50 min | 10 months ago

783: Build a world class self-relationship

"Hi Everyone I'm Kevin Miller and welcome to the ziglar show in this episode. Build a world class self relationship. Listen to this quote. If you're not at your best mentally emotionally physically and spiritually your nothing for your family your depleted for your customers. Your unhelpful to your neighbors and your empty for society build a strong self relationship because that is the key to every other relationship. It's not selfish itself less so this is our habit show and we are with Robin Sharma. Hugh is my guest in episode seven. Eighty one where our focus was personal mastery in this show? The second spoke of the ziglar wheel of life relationships. Robin brought a significant paradigm shift to strengthen and deepen his relationship with others. He shared that he must. I have a world class relationship with himself and just never heard it. Put quite that way and it's just really inspired me to further. Elevate my expectations for my own self image so that I can serve. Others will have better relationships. So you're going to hear this end more in episode really really insightful. You could find Robin. He's got a new book. The Five in-club at Robin Sharma S. H. A. R. M. A. Dot Com. Find the book anywhere you buy book. So I'll bring robin to you right. After I share some great products and services scammers are using fear of the corona virus outbreak to steal people's personal information so enter. Id theft assist the first identity theft protection product on the market founded in two thousand four. Id theft assist. Covers an entire family for a low price and their ninety eight percent. Customer Renewal Rate proves their best in class reputation. You can buy a one year subscription today through Ziegler for nine dollars and ninety nine cents per month just go to I. D theft assist DOT COM slash e slash Ziglar Gannett. Id theft assist DOT COM slash e slash Ziglar Friends Episode Seven Seven Zero of Ziglar show was titled. Expect the best prepare for the worst and maximize what comes. This was a special edition show. Were Tom Ziegler. Shared a message of hope and encouragement from his new book stronger. You can get this book for Free Right now. Simply Visit Ziglar Dot Com. It's available right on the front page here that again. A New Book from Tom Ziegler. It's free to you visit Ziglar Dot Com and you'll see it front and center. It is called stronger Robin. This'll be interesting as we just did year recorded the main show and of course spent a lot of time talking about habits so I know these are well thought out for you so I'm eager to hear the specifics of your habits and again as I talked about the one. What is the goal you have for yourself that I'm sure changes in each category over time Especially in the area of health will start there. What are the things that you desire to be at the level that you want to be at in your physicality in your in your health and wellness and then what are the things that you do from an exercise and nutrition standpoint to achieve that? Sure so Kevin. You know what's really important to me is energy. I think in many ways energy as business person as a leader as a human being is more orden than even intelligence because you can have great ambitions but if you don't have the energy to execute on them nothing really happened so I I really tried to manage by energy and protect my energy. Another goal is to extend life as long as possible and just to be as healthy as absolutely possible. I appreciate that managing and protecting an injury. That was the key to professional cycling. You gotTa keep it to where to where you needed at the end. So what are the habits that you do or routines that you have for your for exercise and nutritional aspects so one of them no surprises the five? Am Club victory. Our Twenty Twenty twenty formula as you know Kevin the first pocket is so. I love running on a treadmill. I'm a huge fan of spinning. Because you can really through the sweat released. Bdo neff brain derived neurotrophic factor which promotes neurogenesis and repairs brain cells damaged by stress. While I'm running I also hydrate even right now. I mean I just. Hydration is incredibly important metabolic function. It's an incredibly important to cognition. And it's I think it's incredibly important for detoxing so the morning routine and making sure I exercise. Treadmill spinning is very valuable. I also try to do weight because you know that strong core is very important. also took not giving any any Medical Advice Uber Vitamin C. And a strong supplementation program has kept me. Just throw these years of traveling very strong so good supplementation programs to meet the to massage protocol. I talked about the five. Am clubs saved my life? Which IS NEAT massages? So powerful to release talks ins to keep me peaceful to Release tension and stress just very powerful What else would I say sunlight? Something that I don't think it's talked about enough but I try to Sunbathe for twenty minutes to release the Vitamin D. Fresh air like just getting out in the woods woods close by powerful time in nature and the final thing is I would say on area or habit number one of physical and nutrition. I I really am a big fan of fasting. Yeah it throws a human body into a state called a toffee which is really powerful for building. Your immunity fasting also keeps my mindset. Very clear you talked about energy. I fast and gives me incredible energy once I start eating that I feel like taking a nap and the last thing I would say is I. Try to clean a try to avoid processed foods and vegetables. Good strong protein as much as possible. Yes and as we're recording this during the epidemic of the corona virus. That's what I thought his fasting Good Three Day fast. You don't eat anything. Save some food and you don't go to the bathroom you'll need toilet paper here either. Way a good habit family and friends or you can just say relationships and I liked that too. I've not talked about that often. And a goal scenario with my guess. What is a goal you at hold up? This is what I want for relationships and then do you have any specific habits that you're employing to keep them where you want them. This might be a little counter intuitive but the most important relationship is our relationship with ourselves in so many people can say well. You know I'm I'm all for my family. I'm all for my team for my clients. I don't have time for myself. And it's almost as if that's an expression of well that would be selfish. I actually think caring for your four interior empires in the five. Am Club hearts sentenced. Soul set builds. A world class for relationship is not selfish. Itself lasts because if you don't you're not at your best mentally emotionally physically spiritually. You're nothing for your family your depleted for your customers. Your unhelpful. To Your neighbors. You are empty for society so that the goal is to build a strong self relationship because that is the key to other relationship in terms of family. I would say I want to build a relationship of authenticity deep. Love along with happy memories magical moments so that when I'm gone my family would say he was alight. He was a protector. He was a great family leader and he was also someone who created some very fun time for us that I will replay and listen to again and I am grateful that tens of thousands of people will hear that one right there. I love that I've never had that response of the relationship with self. I'm fervent about that one because I ran aground because of my backwards thinking on that my altruistic. I'm GonNa pour out and poor until I was empty. So thank you. Robin mental is the next spoke and again. I've not asked it in this way. Is there a mental goal mental measuring? Stick you have yourself and then. What are the things that you employ to do that? My mental goal would be the mindset of a navy seal blended with the mentality of for Spartan Warrior with a little bit of Kobe Bryant. You know mental focus agility and intensity pulled into that I I love it I love it. It gives me a great visual picture right there on the Spartan. You've come back that you mentioned that in the first one is well appreciate it. You know it's we are in a time if incredible volatility and you know the Spartan mothers used to say to their kids. Come back on a shield. Come to the Torius or you know. Don't come back at all and I think through our morning routine and our evening rituals and our daily practices by bullet proofing. Our mindsets. And I know we're GonNa talk about some tactics but then what most of the world sees is tragedy. We we can see as an opportunity to serve to be more helpful to navigate the store that you come back. I think you said it. Come back victorious maybe I paraphrase it. Come back victorious or on a shield reminds me of the old. I don't remember who said it. The man in the arena quote. The glory goes to them. Not The spectacular. Say The spectator out there. But whoever's in there getting bloodied at least making an effort go succeed or fail. I love the perspective. I believe. It was Theodore Roosevelt's thank. You run the arena in the arena. That's it you got it. Financial is the fourth spoke financial goals there. Obviously you've done well in that area but some some goals you have there. And then what are the consistent habits that you employ now or maybe have employed in the past? Now get you where you are now. Sure I have again. Maybe a contrarian take on well. I've worked with billionaires and NBA Stars and many of the Super Rich as their mentor. For Twenty four years and I found a lot. There are a lot of rich people. Money is all they have and so I would say wealth is a few things I acknowledge you know. Having money in the bank is provide freedom but I want to offer cure many listeners and viewers say being able to buy what you want is well being able to do. Great things for your family is well. Feeling that you're free is well. There are so many super rich people who suffer from not enough nece addiction. There's a a story I talked about in the five. Am Club they were Joseph. Heller in Kurt Vonnegut too great authors were at a cocktail party at the home of a long island financier and I think it was Heller. Lookit Kurt Vonnegut he. What do you think you know? Our host made more money yesterday than you're GonNa make all your years of future royalties and the other author replied to his buddy. He said well. That's okay I have something the billionaire would never have and I can Keller said what's that we said the feeling that I have so I would say wealth is is your health. Wealth is feeling you have enough. Wealth is having a good family. Life while is long walks in nature. A mountain bike rides in terms of some specific tactics to bring value to your people. I would say live simply especially now I would say live within your means. I would say be masterful at your craft because the marketplace rewards mastery even in times of volatility. People will always pay for the best I would say. Keep your keep your deathblow again. I'm not giving any financial advice but you know. Low Leverage is a wise thing and then I think tithing in philanthropy unbelievably powerful on as a way to not only do good for other people but increase your own spirits. And you're hopefulness in your own happiness. In this time. We always feel good where we do. Great things for other people. Well I appreciate that. That is a primary label attributed to you is humanitarian. I think that's one that everybody listening here desires to embody as well spiritual is the fifth. Spoke tell us about that area my my I think you know I I wanNA build my relationship with God. I want to build intimacy with my greatest self versus might go itself. I actually have a distinction in my work. Are we have our hero excels in our go excels in our ego excels or about? You know we're thinking about ourselves. I want to build a strong core where I'm an instrument of service to as many people as possible so spirituality demean me as a great relationship with God a great relationship with my strongest sell in being a humble. Serve it to as many people as possible. That is very dear to my heart but my dad. When I was growing up used to use the words of Rabindranath Tagore. Who's degrade button? Golly poets. My Dad used to say Robin when you were born you cried while the world rejoiced said son. Live your life in such a way that when you die to world cries while you rejoice at the beautiful that is beautiful heroic versus ego itself. I've not heard it put that way I will that henceforth you are listening to the Ziglar Show and our habits episode with Robin Sharma. Next in the career spoke is when Robin talks deeply about the power and assessing of mentors that I believe will be really convicting to you. So we'll get right into that. After I share great products and services with YOU KIKO creates super cool hands on projects designed to expose kids to concepts in steam that stem plus art and design all from the comfort of home. Kiwi goes mission is to help kids build competence creativity and critical thinking skills and a blast while doing it. Each crate is designed by experts and tested by kids and teaches a new steam concept. You can sign up for an ongoing subscription or purchase a single crates that strike your interest or both headed Akiko. 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You get ten percent off your first month by visiting better help dot com slash ziglar join over eight hundred thousand people taking charge of their mental health again. That's better help. H. E. L. P. dot com slash. Ziglar career is the sixth spoke career. Business again the current current goals. And have it's that you put in place? My goals are pretty simple. I mean career goals. I WanNa push magic you remember Mr Riley in by an club. He's all about producing magic. Yeah I WanNa Push Matt I WanNa Push Magic. I WANNA I WANNA you know. Put out work. That is my sistine chapel ceiling. I'm not saying I'm there. I'm saying that's my goal. Michelangelo is a great hero of mine. Davinci's a great hero th mine so I want to be so good at what I do that you know. It brings tears to people's eyes when they see me pursuing my craft. You know I just want to be world class at the craft so I touch people so deeply that it turns on their lights and helps them do amazing things in terms of tactics. The Ninety Ninety one rule I talked about in the five. Am Club. I ninety minutes workday for the next ninety days. Focus on your single biggest opportunity to own your field Sixty minutes student is very powerful for career. Which is sixty minutes a day. At least reading refining your craft growing in your skill set a weekly. Mastermind is a great tactic to be even better. What you do find someone who's on the same path of world class in your career and meet with them go for a walk. You know Steve Jobs as favorite way to meet and talk about your career talk about books. You're reading talking about strategies talking about failures. Daily five concept we didn't get into it and the main show very powerful five little wins every single day when done consistently leads to one hundred and fifty micro with victories in twelve months powerful. So it's little wins everyday will get you to world class and then getting a mentor. I know you're a mentor. To a lot of people I know Zig Ziglar was an order to millions of people finding a mentor. Who can sort of collapse the time line? So you don't make as many mistakes knew where to go is really very powerful for career mastery. Let me just ask you one more point on the mentor aspect because we do have so many people who will cite Zig Ziglar is my mentor. That's great give us your thoughts on that verse. Also the face to face actually in your life mentor. I think I think you're right. You can have historical mentors. Who are no longer on. The planet drew their books because reading a book having a conversation with the author their Stardust rubs off and I think it's very powerful to have even video calls like this or in person meetings with mentors. I think some alchemy happens. When two human beings get together in person you get their facial expressions you get their energy you know and that's powerful to. It's why do I won't do one of these without doing the video. Because I just cannot get the essence of the person without seeing them even though we are. I don't know maybe a couple of thousand miles apart. Last one is personal and Robin. This one is the things you do just for you the play the fun and even the self care but the things that you do purely for Robin but which you talked about again back to the relationship with yourself you know. I love books. I'm surrounded by one of the greatest things my dad did for me was like you filled our own with books and I think a home full of books is i. Look I see in your background. Kevin. I believe a home or an office. Full of books is a very rich home. Have got you know the Khalil. Gibran to profit next to me right now. I've got the meditations of Marcus Aurelius with me right. Now I've got tightened about you know The LIFE BIOGRAPHY. Rockefeller with me right. Now cut you know worldwide laws of life right. I'm surrounded by books. I love books. Investing Book Big Passion of Mine. I love nature so like you i. I Love Mountain. Biking just adore it. I love nature walks. I spent a lot of time with my family and I try architect family meals so they are perfect moments. I love traveling. I'm happy I'm I think I'm fundamentally nomadic and I love traveling with my family of. I love traveling alone. I think we can get into flow state when we're in a new sitting in a new country right now I know this is evergreen but right now with the corona virus and everything. We can't travel but I just love traveling and exploring new countries music. I don't think music gets talked about enough. I make playlists for writing my books. I like make playlists for date nights with my partner. I make playlists her. You know what would I just? I'm really in the country music now so I I'm writing my new book and I call it. You Know Writing Glory playlist and I've got all these countries songs that really. Just get me in the heart. Because you know. They're singing about their dogs dying and lost relationships. And you know all these things tonight just so music is even right now through volatility. Let Music Lifts your spirits. It's really a powerful tactic for creativity. Productivity and saying strong as the world falls apart. God bless you for that I- blood brothers on music it is. I sometimes feel like I am the number one fan. I've got my workout playlist. I've got my ongoing list. I've got my writing playlist. We shared amongst family so my kids profess that one of the cool things about their dad is. I have the best playlists on the planet and they get their new music off of that but man. There's nothing that I don't know if there's anything I mean. I've got the rocky mountains. And pikes peak out my window and blowing snow right now and it's beautiful but I don't know if there's anything that's ongoing. I can always rely on music but at gotta say meals as perfect moments. Probably another mainstay of my life. I'll do it if I'm by myself and also my family. I love it but I'm going to tell them about that. That lift up that we do that and elevated a little more meals as perfect moments love that. Robyn thank you. There's a book called chasing daylight and it was written by but I've heard the name. Yeah it's written by Gene Kelly and Eugene. Kelly was actually the worldwide CEO of KPMG The accounting giant and one day. He went into see his doctor and he got news. That we never wanna hear from our doctors when we go in to get the results of some tests. And he was told he had inoperable brain cancer and he was told he had ninety days left to live and he went back home and he decided to architect and reverse. Engineer is last ninety days architectured as business organization in one of the things he realizes he had never had lunch with his wife and he'd never spent time walking with his friends and he said in my last ninety days I want to start creating perfect moments and from that I started asking myself with my family How can I be a perfect even with my team with my readers? Like how can I be a perfect moment? Created you're talking about self care even with myself even if I'm home alone how can I create a perfect moment for myself through? Maybe it's the right food the right music right book the right lighting and I think that allows the journey of life to become far more beautiful than mindlessly going through our days. My wife specifically going to appreciate that clip right there from you. I'll take that as a sound bite. Because she's been attacked for quite a while of especially to women. I think of dispelling the fairy tale life. She says it's impossible but man. Can you have fairy tale moments to your perfect moments? Well thank you all. I'm going to chalk this right here. Perfect moment I am inspired. I've gotten to spend two hours with you. Robin thank you for the gift. Thank you for your time. Thank you for your mastery that you've honed and brought to us and to me. I'm grateful absolute pleasure. Kevin Thank you very much for your time at just powerful behind the scenes sharing from Robin Sharma. Again you can find Robin and his new book the five. Am Club at Robin Sharma. Dot Com coming up in episode seven. Eighty four approve of yourself and influence others. We all want to influence others as without that ability. We can't help anyone. We won't matter. There are a couple interesting factors in this quest. One we saywhat. Our influence is only other people can testify to what they perceive it as so I asked this question to the audience. If everyone in your life had to give an honest testimony of your influence on them good and bad. How do you feel about what they would share to? How we feel about ourselves is such a route issue that greatly impacts are influence so I posted a second question. What actions behaviors or thoughts help and hurt your approval others so Tom's ziglar and I read through many of the responses. And just talked about this convergence of these two incredibly important issues till then folks thank you as always for letting me walk with you as we inspire our true performance together.

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Edition 2120

Monocle 24: Midori House

22:14 min | 1 year ago

Edition 2120

"You're listening to Monaco House view first broadcast on the fourth of March. Two Thousand Twenty monocle twenty four. This is molecules house view coming up today. A remarkable Super Tuesday reveals the divisions in the United States Democratic Party. My guests Tim. Marshall and Oscar. Rivera will discuss that and the days of the big stories including the latest Freedom House global report and why conservative values seem to be winning in eastern Europe plus Portugal's environmental agency recently Grin. Let a new location by repurposing an old military base on the South Bank of the river. Tagore's Lisbon's battle for a new airport. I'm Andrew Mullet Monaco's has few starts now. Welcome to the show. I'm joined by Tim. Marshall the author former diplomatic editor of Sky News and editor of the what and the why dot Com and Oscar while the older Rivera professor of international law and International Affairs at Birkbeck College. Let's stop by pondering the ramifications of yesterday's Super Tuesday while new American politician who understood something about winning elections famously observed that a house divided against itself cannot stand Republican. Though Abraham Lincoln was his observation seems applicable to the Democratic Party which now seems set for a splendid brawl between its centrist and leftist tendencies Oscar. There have been angry Bernie Sanders fines like there are any other kind suggesting Senator Elizabeth Warren should have done for their guy. What Amy Klobuchar and Pete Bouche did for Joe Biden as in step aside and let him their endorsement. Should she have well their opinion? E says she should and but Let me say two things before I answer your question number one. I don't think so. Partic- has been as decisive as the point it's Thinking has been. Actually we should look for results Next week Because what has happened is yes. Joe Biden is back In the in the in into the race but it seems as if he will now stumbles some. Belykh into broker convention. And they're the ninety seven super delegates. Who already told The New York Times? They are ready to destroy the Democratic Party. If that's what it takes to stop sanders Will Crown human elect him to lose the presidential election? And that takes us to number two. What is going to happen now? This is the answer to your question. Of course a scorched earth between Sanders supporters and The so-called centrist but my new Does seem as if Biden establishment. Democrats have You know shot all their amunition. And if Kevin Don that all they have achieved Isa Tai an effective die with sanders. You must begin to wonder how is how is he. GonNa do against trump. My problem is stylish men. Democrats and the mainstream media in the United States. Also here. Continue TO UNDERESTIMATE MR trump. Just as they did back in twenty sixteen well on that score. Is it self indulgent for the Democratic Party to be thinking about literally anything else than beating Donald Trump Pretty much because you can think and talk about anything you want but unless you'RE GONNA GET POWER. You won't be able to do anything with it so concentrate on winning power and they are concentrating on beating each other up but it's an inevitable process. I mean you know everyone goes through it. If trump wasn't standing and the program will be exactly the same fight degree with just about everything. Oscar said remember a couple of weeks ago. Somebody promising a you don't understand. American politics by is totally finished. He'll he'll resign took over. They have gained out the different states. The demographics of the different states. I said he's still in it. I still think Biden will win. But he's not going to resign and then California isn't in yet in California comes in. I think that puts him within about thirty votes or delegate votes of of Excuse me Santa's within within about thirty delegate votes of Biden that point you look ahead to wing Texas let us remember that those are still being distributed and those delegates will not be disputed until early next week. They're going to be in a tie and next week. Washington Idaho Michigan. All the ones that are gonNA come in. Most most of these estates were won by Sander's last time exactly and at which point They are at best level. And so we're back at it but the real winner trump absolutely trump is the winner because I because Buenos had such a terrible campaign and he's looking like an old man he's an old old man I mean he's mental faculties are in question and so on so if it is him it looked better for trump. If it's Biden it looked better for trump when on that cheerful thought Oscar. Is this as you see it? A A struggle for the actual existential soul of the Democratic Party. Are these two different political visions that are being contested or is this is this personalities is a? I think I mean I know politics. It's often overlap between the two. But what's actually going to be decisive? Is it just about that? Thing of voters deciding. This is the guy that for whatever reason I just like more is not only vote for the soul of the Democratic Party. But if you listen to many of Santa so-called Very angry guys. Actually they see it as a battle for the soul of US muckraker itself because it is the matter that indeed as we just heard is going to be very difficult for either sanders or Biden into Defeat trump but at the very least in terms of the record in terms of Ground Forces and Grassroots Organization. There is a sense that Sanders might have a better shot than Biden. You look at Biden's record everything that matters. Listen to this taxation. They go for pizza from Tim going on television. I'm shaking. I already said he's going to be difficult for either of them. But if you look at what you just mentioned you know. Politics which is now theatrics the kind of performances compare performances by by them with Sanders and Iraq. War will for cops Billionaires all the stuff that trump lice about but everybody believes in the minute Biden tries to lie and he has already begun to live. I was arrested together with Mandela and all that stuff that the mainstream media portrays as it were true. These are lies. Well trump is gonNA is gonNA draw rings around like crazy at least sanders angry enough to to shout back at him. I'm not saying about But at least he may have a shot likes good to carry on. I can go shopping now. The other thing is look at look at the look at the states. Where where Biden one yesterday Alabama Tennessee. Well those are not states of the Democrats are going to win anyway so we have to look at Yes Texas California New York. What you know the states and the next week. The state's not might Shift Democrat got US go. One Oscar is waving his hands around in a very very no. You know he does that thing with his hands on. And I was sitting here trying to rise above making that comparison between the whole sort of scientists Bernie but secondly you touch the old man you you. You touched You both touching it with this thing about the soul of the Democratic Party but it's also about the soul of the United States and yeah it's hugely thing big thing about democracy but it's part of the culture war and if and if Sanders wins he will veer off on that culture war to what I suspect that he majority of Americans think is the wildest shorts of the culture war. Nothing that also nice. Let me let me be very passionate. I don't think he's a Sculpture Award. Lisi's class war look at look at Texas. The future of the democratic parties with Jennifer sees NATO's wits with C. Soon those ladies who are doing pretty well and in that Purple Estate. That's where things my shift to Marshall Oscar party all Rivera. We'll have more from you both shortly but first here is Monaco's yelling fan with some of the other stories. We're following today. Thanks Andrew. The World Bank has pledged twelve billion dollars in aid for developing countries which are grappling with the spread of Corona virus. The emergency package includes loans. Grants and technical assistance will have more on the covert nineteen outbreak and media coverage. In just a moment. The Vatican has opened its archives on the wartime papacy of pies the twelfth. The details have been kept secret for decades amid accusations that he turned a blind eye to atrocities during the Second World War. A number of historians are preparing to pore over documents and finally the monocle. Minute reports on these seventy-three moving pictograms which have been unveiled ahead of Tokyo Swim Twenty Olympic Games. It is the very first time that animated aikins have been used in the Olympics for more on this story head over to Monaco lacomb slash minute and sign up to our daily bulletin those today's headlines Spec to you Andrew. Thank you arlene this monocle house view. I'm Andrew Miller still with me Oscar forty Ola Rivera and Tim Marshall. Let's move on and persist with the theme of Dysfunctional Democracies. Freedom House has today published. Its annual report considering the state of civil liberties and political rights around the world it is not uplifting reading countries going backwards. Outnumbered countries making progress by two to one mocking the fourteenth consecutive year of deterioration only freedom and democracy front of particular concern with India and the United States. Team is there a particular reason why the democratic tide continues to recede? Yes and it's been going out for fourteen years but those are the ones who does democracy index the Economist Index Also has an. It's all the big ones Pew Research For the whole of the century have seen a decline in freedom and democratic values. And I put it down to a thousand things. Which but for Brevity Sake. Three the first one which is part of what caused it is globalization Which in turn led to the rise of populism and the strong leaders and then the third part the Internet in the short attention span and the fake news. And you put them all together and you get a they've Nick my job democracy's not working for me hang on China's a dictatorship and yet it's got full employment all whatever you want to make out of it. Secondly yeah all these guys and they are nearly. Oh I think they're all men have come along like deter today in the Philippines all banning Hungary and said. I've got the answer to all your problems and in the short attention span of the Internet age and the fake news. I think more people are buying into that. He put the three things together. And you get a consistent decline which I do not think as yet bottom there on that subject of the effect that the individual can have at the top and Tim has named a few Insurgents strongmen around the world and there is no shortage you could also add obviously Putin Bolsonaro doin many others to that list but the two countries that the Freedom House report highlights Both India in the United States are led by two individuals very much of that Cohort Donald Trump and Narendra Modi. Should it be possible for one man to make that much difference or is is the man at the top actually making the difference? Or is he the symptom of the difference that he's just occurring? Of course the joke is on. Us is not just the one making the difference at the top. Is the one man talking directly to the People? Which is what is often named populism but populism of course is the symptom and the cost of that populism means The fact that people are filling incorrectly feeling left behind by things such as globalization and on the basis that there will not be any material victories them. Because none of these strong men can offer any material victories. They cannot offer to close the gap between the richer and the poorer. They they count. They can do it so they are offering instead symbolic victories. What symbolic victory all look? The immigrant is taking your job or all. We're now from Brussels that kind of we have flu passports. Absolutely an-and talk and on top of blue passports or we men are feeling Manley again. If you look in Latin America for instance which is the is the part that I I find that. The weakest point of The Freedom House report. You'll see precisely that that The initiation you see strong men like do curebowl sonar whose popularity by the ways very low. This is very interesting. Very low like do like fourteen percent Seventy percent In in popular also now does well but then you see Ginny. Nine years The representative of the post coup Bolivia. And you see her a woman with a totally patriarchal discourse You know the Bible The Bible is going to go against The indigenous peoples and so on and so forth worth feminine is an infantilized That those kinds of emotional victories are what people are having in the in the void of real solutions. So what we need of course to take account of the fact that we need real solutions but we also need better performers where ready to Use the image who use social media in a way that apparently the far right in the right wing are doing better. Let's move along Finally to a related subject and and what a cheerful meditation on Disarmament. Today's news panel has been thereafter the concerns that Eastern Europe is in some respects intent on maintaining distance between itself and Western Europe. It's not that. Eastern European countries have in recent years taken a noticeably dimmer view of immigration than their Western counterparts. But the same conservatism is manifesting in other rooms in Poland. Local municipalities covering a third of the country have adopted rules and resolutions which appear targeted pretty squarely at Gay people. Tim Is this related to what we were talking about in the previous discussion. Is this just symbolic populism offering cultural war victories? Where no others are available. It's it's it is linked to the previous discussion. The rise of populism. But there's more to it than that and that is history The lack of immigration into these countries the grip of religion still in these countries. So it's not just about economics. I mean I think people sometimes think economics just everything and it isn't. It's a huge part of everything but there are other things I looked at the six. Eu countries that do not recognize same sex marriage all know even civil partnerships Slovakia Romania Lithuania Bulgaria Poland Latvia. And you know. There's a common theme there. They were all Warsaw. Pact back behind iron curtain a lack of openness to the outside world lack of what we regard in the Western democracies as modern social norms and so they are several decades behind which then made me think about section twenty eight which we had in this country not so very long ago exactly was it I think if I recall rightly it was not abolished until the ninety s criminalized the propagation of homosexual propaganda. Well that's pretty much. What does that even even meant? Which is what some of these zones. You're talking about so it. It goes deep deep into the the cultural roots of this sort of country. And where it links exactly with the previous discussion. If you look at the busy Grad countries which is a Czech Republic Hungary Poland and Slovenia Slovakia. Sorry this visit countries who see themselves as a cultural block in some ways and two of them and Poland and Hungary openly declared themselves now lead to be in liberal democracies. That's a huge shift and that also springs from the from the history so They'll either come out of it and people at the Bishop the Archbishop of crack. Oh who talks about a rainbow plague will eventually pass away and they'll join what we regard as the modern world what they regard as a an obsolete. Well we don't want to join or what we've been talking about previously about. The lack of democracy will continue to spiral backwards and we will become like them well also is it complacent to assume the traffic own. This is one way Tim correctly. Points out that many of the countries lecturing Poland and similar countries on this subject. Now have only really arrived at way. They've got to reasonably recently in some cases astonishingly quickly. The other comparison because to me is Ireland which obviously was not a Warsaw Pact Country. But the idea that it has got to wear it has got to now would have seemed as recently as twenty five years ago. Utterly incredible you're absolutely right and in fact Because I believe pessimism purpose is part of the problem. Let us end on an upbeat note. The case of Ireland but also the case of Argentina for instance in most of these Latin American countries very socially conservative on the Grapes of Strong Catholic Christian sentiment well that Christian sentiment is still bubbling APP and You allying itself to Far right tendencies having said that you see the example of Argentina abortion. He's about to be to become a fully legal Much the same Happened in Ireland. So you see there are possibilities of changing that Tendency I agree with team strongly very strongly that we should not make the mistake of thinking About these only through the prism of economics one thing is economic misery. Another is the misery of desire. This idea that that You know people in Men and Left behind people's cannot achieve as much as those who have enough money therefore they identify with them so what we're witnessing is. Also a method to divide the working class CD versus versus a rural areas. Men Versus Women Having said that we're also seeing examples in Latin America. The PROTAS late last year and other places where the tide can be turned the briefly. There is a political problem within the twenty seven remaining twenty-seven EU countries in that is that if the Brussels detected opponent self to stop finding let's say countries like Poland. And He's already try anyway about in the legal reforms but that's partly a separate issue if it's finding poem for allowing the municipalities to be basically gay free zones or whatever because that's not part of the e. U Ethos which it isn't all you driving social mores even further down that line by finding and hectoring them but if you don't how you standing for the I mean it's a real difficulty that Allah Rivera and Tim Marshall. Thank you both for joining us. In a moment we'll hear how a UK court ruling over Heathrow's expansion plans may change Lisbon's ideas about a new airport. You're listening to Monaco's house view. Stay tuned Molecules House view. I'm Andrew finally today to Lisbon. Where a battle for the city's new airport is hitting turbulence. Monaco Carlotta Rebelo. Has This report last week. A UK court ruled that plans for a third runway at Heathrow. Were illegal because they violated the country's commitments under the Paris Climate Agreement. It marked the first such ruling of its kind and it's having ramifications this week. The spotlight is Elizabeth's plans for a new airport. That has been fifty years in the works. Supporters Deem it necessary over safety and overcapacity concerns at the current airport central location and Portugal's environmental agency recently grin a new location by repurposing an old military base on the South Bank of the river. Tagore's but opposition and environmental critics are now demanding a further review in light of the government's climate goals. It should serve as a lesson for infrastructure planners. Be Extra careful in making your case going. Thanks to the U. K. Environmentalists have a new. Arrow in their quiver. Thank you all for today's show. Monaco's house view is produced by Maka sippy research by Nando. Gusto Ko and Madeleine. Pohlad stadium manages Louis Allen and Christie Evans. Coming up at twenty hundred London Nets midday Los Angeles a brand new edition of the entrepreneurs manacles house view returns. Same time tomorrow. Eighteen hundred London. I'm Andrew Miller. Thanks for listening.

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21.13  MU Podcast

Mysterious Universe

1:35:37 hr | 2 years ago

21.13 MU Podcast

"Tonio great idea into a reality. Squarespace squarespace makes it easier than ever to launch you'll passion project. Whether you're showcasing a work or selling products of any kind with beautiful templates in the ability to customize just about anything you can easily make a beautiful website yourself. And if you do get stocks quest bicycle twenty seven award winning customer support is that help had discussed by dot com slash MU for free trial. And when you're ready to launch us the offer code MU to save ten percent of your first purchase of a website or demand. A serious universe season. Twenty one episode thirteen coming up on the show got the Congo's colossal crypto spiders, the nightmare of Nile hotel and the curse of the dock God's. I'm Benjamin Gandhi. Joining me, his our rights looking forward to this show that book in waiting for of the dock gone for a couple of weeks now. So you got really engrossed in it. What is it about is amazing? Yeah, spoke. I've got coming up and considering the intellectual highlight of the lost episode Japanese man evacuating his bowels of show. Yeah. Into the face of shot and then warning off cuttlefish. Yup. I thought I'd follow it up with something. A little bit deeper shawl just it'll be a little bit more, intellectual and two copies of the dock. Odds have arrived with God one one that came from Sweden. And I forgot I ordered another copy. But also quiet amazed to see on the inside cover. There's a signature from the author. Oh, well, and he's written a message to someone. And I think the message from the author to this particular person gives us a clue as to the effect of the dot gods. So I'll reveal a reveal the content of the message as we close to the end of this show, but the dock odds is this, all encompassing. Cozma logical conspiracy that behind much of the world's secret societies occult movements sometimes religious movements. Even the UFO phenomenon. There is a intelligent force that ties together. And it's an argument you've made a lot of times on the show. You know, you always say that all of the stock. Is connected. It seems to come from the same source. Well, the office Anthony Robertson and Geoff Gilbertson they very meticulously lay out the case for that. And we're gonna track all across time. We're gonna go into folklore ancient myths UFO phenomenon the men in black crypto zoology and see these connections that the pace together. Entities. Incredible fantastic. I'm looking forward to that. Well, I mean, I can't take the credit for that though. I mean, I've kind of got that idea from John keel who really was approaching that idea that this is all the same phenomenon. Everything's the same. It's just that it's wearing different mosque. And it's pushing humanity in a certain direction, and it may be could be a possibility that wall, I think much this what you'll focusing on today. Ben is dark. There's almost like this. It's very reductive. I know, but it's almost like this this hidden doc group, and then light group lot the lack of word. But essentially, it's good naval. It's the alternate in reductive way that you can do this. There are good and evil forces that are fighting in the background for humanity. There's a conflict as Joe -ality that it's it's usually binary. Totally right. The oldest that case very early on. And we'll use that as an example and kind of split it apart and go down h poff. Yeah. And what have you got coming up? Well, I started off off to that story. We covered on the plus show just earlier this week, which was though it did defy the limits of believability can summon up in three three words giant radioactive councils. One would bodice. Yes. We did a story about giant radioactive spots. If you haven't heard go back and listen to that plus upset at the beginning of this week. But I did get a number of emails from people saying, hey, I wanna know that you'll kind of joking about the absurdity of this story. However, who's also this giant radioactive spider was from the Sonoma valley. It was a vampire throw explosion. We believe that should noble may be involved somewhere there. But in reality, I get a couple of emails for people goggle hang on. Even you yourself on mystery shoot universal one of your rod is Brent has done rod ups on back in the early nineteen twenties. Eighteen hundreds especially when the British empire was traveling into Africa into the jungles of the world into Indonesia and Sinatra. They were in countering. These gigantic spot is what I mean Gigante, I'm not talking like a boating spot, which is what the MAC twelve inches across the something which walking about five foot horrible terrible. Venomous spot is capturing pace milem, King Kong stuff pretty much. Yes. So we're going to be talking about some of those encounters before we then move into still own essentially skull island, where we going to gigantic 10-meter-long syndicates last thing you wanna come up against before. We finally go into this idea that was suggested by Bradstock actually about ten years ago, which explains that yes, we're seeing. These things, and they may actually be physical. But as you know, we've always contemplated. Maybe there's a non physical reality to these things. But how about when they appea- in reality? We don't really talk about the effects of the manifestations of these things and Bradstock came up with this theory of essentially, it's not it's like antimatter, but it's not that bad. So, you know, with anti motto is essentially, we have normal matter that exists in our reality. And then you have anti meta essentially, the polarity of the matter is reversed. So if you've got electrons the electrons and normally negatively charged and this reality, but if it was anti meta that'd be positively charged. And if those to come into contact with each other of anti modern matter come together, they annihilate themselves in a massive explosion releasing a huge amount of energy. So some people have speculated that occasionally anti metal matter from another reality can creep into AL's. And when it does it can not always explode, but it does Kohl's disturbances in our alley. So all these stories of people's whose homes have blown up who. Have been burnt by strange explosions in their homes by what seems to be into dimensional rifts that on opening in certainly cash gas leaks. It's definitely we've investigated that we've ruled out gasoline. No, it's definitely not gas leaks. Not meteorites. It's not electrical explosions, but they're certainly something going on where entire houses of being blown apart by seemingly mysterious full. That is not an egg in the microwave. Why would they ain't gonna this put? Put a put an egg in the muck Kuwait. I haven't actually a whole heap of people. I think it's just going to try that off pretty sure they went. Hey. Well, let's go into the dot gov. Again, Anthony robots and Jeff Gilbertson any opening my state exactly what you just spoke about that nearly every culture pasta and present has an eighth office. The describes a jewel stick conflict and at its elemental level say it's almost always it's binary. And it's one of the as you said good verse ADL evil order and chaos light and darkness heaven and hell demons and angels. You know, we can go on and on union Yang. But today they point out early on the we see the rise of the viewpoint, and it's really risen to prominence ever since the age of enlightenment, we have Newtonian science. The idea that the universe is this kind of mechanism that is playing itself out through it's different Macintoshes. And this book is. Twenty years old as well. So actually, it's thirty years old onto ninety released they go, so yeah, it's quite an old book. And it's just funny that they're saying that is kind of taking off back then I would say it's even more pronounced now. Absolutely. It's just increase the very much head of the time. And I started up until this modern era, the idea of divinely ordained, harmonies, Lee balanced system of creation that was teeming with life had been attorney like an orthodontist belief system. That's what everyone in nightly undestood, people of all classes philosophies of all different races. They knew they were part of a wondrous universal scheme of things that transcended the physical limitations of this bound existence. And it wasn't just something that you would get pasta with something that you in new pot of Al culture and the culture of the world, and I say to put it more simply they knew they had precious immortal souls, and they. Carried within the innermost beings fragments of the new they use the term universal God head the authors. Do but again in the last three hundred years this knowing has come under constant attack. And the oldest I it's the present contention. This highly organized and potentially devastating attack is no accident. And that the human Tagore's of this assault of rationalism on spiritual beauty, a not the true initiators of the conflict. This is really what the doc. God's is all about. So it's interesting. And it's something that we love to talk about on this show. It's something that Graham Hancock, for example writes about in his fiction novel so war God. Yeah. The idea that behind a lot of the revolutions in society, the different Evelyn of culture, and understanding and science is essentially orchestrated by an. Pellets? And I he this spiritual reality has been systematically tampered with by certain sentient discordant forces that are inimical to the development of the human spirit and always have voiced pain that we cold as intelligent, but highly evil forces the dog gods. So the author's attempt to explain the techniques they used to manipulate him and belief systems how they control the destiny of life on this planet. So this is what I mean when I said what they're arguing is incredibly broad. This is this you have to be there vast cosmological conspiracy that goes beyond a life on our planet. It's almost like a again like you said it's goes back to this universal binary of good. I it's it's really as I said, it's reductive at simplistic. But it's almost it's fundamentally unite the people just know that there's a difference between good and evil people have difficulty. I think actually being able to decipher what that is for the. Themselves. But there are those two opposing forces that have fundamentally part of the universe again, all this very broad. But where this gets fascinating is when you start drilling into the details. So the Q and in this section. This is all written by Anthony Roberts. He says the modern terminology to describe the dock audits is the ultra terrestrial phenomenon and ultra steel means it's not extra show because they're not from another place, but they are kind of parallel to our existence. That's the he with us, and it could be living underground that could be living in overlaying dimension. But essentially, yes, they they're still here. They pot of us. Yeah. Mancha Vel Morton understanding can be seen in between the layers of the complexity of the UFO phenomenon as well. This is what you start to kind of peace the veil and see this grand conspiracy. Okay. So they stayed that early investigations into your foes, quite rightly it was purely on a physical level. You know, the investigators looked at it as in a perhaps it's some kind of extraterrestrial for some kind of advanced civilization whose calm in their advanced scientifically advanced Croft to study human culture to study human beings. But they point out that by nineteen fifty three the attitude to the phenomenon started to shift with people like George Danske Desmond, Leslie, you had the Vanu Ch'ien's with this spiritual messages coming from people like adapts key. And of course, I point out. This isn't a new phenomenon because they show that the myths and legends of the world, they constantly recount how human beings of my contact with non human entities. We always it's always being with tiles and miss of. God's demon spirits fairies save times being guided in the ways of truth and true, spirituality, but more often than not the not. And we've covered these. Stories from folklore as well. He the follow it ends up being confused. Yes. Misguided sometimes damaged by the messages that they're following the same with the contact stuff with covered on the show, the wild goose chases, if you know trying to find Bigfoot in the middle of forest because some spirit told you to go there, and this damage can be something benign like that getting lost in a forest to complete madness to suicide and death, even the destruction of whole cultures and civilizations can be the damage that results from following these forces. So they also state the now modern thinking leaves particularly vulnerable to the influence of the dock alz. And one example is this example of a Chaldean astronomer, priest and Chaldean would be guess, ancient Babylonian, and this ancient astronomy priest would have no difficulty in recognize. Signs and wonders importance in the sky and would interpret them as shadows of heavenly activities. It would be more than just the mechanism of the universe. Playing out. Is this more of like a precursor to astrology is almost like what is moving in the heavens affects the earth yet. So it would be reflecting onto the us as you say it would be as above so below. Whereas the modern astronomer will look at the universe as a series of non-related bangs and flashes, and you know, to use a metaphor of geeze wearing around you. It's like this mechanism that's wound up and rotating. They will scoff at things like flying sauces. They will scoff it paranormal events that will state that it's all nonsense. And if you look at these two, a very wise, gentlemen, which of them can be considered the wiser more calls Mickley mature of the to both the lighter one, obviously because L of faith in science technology suggests that we have a greater. Understanding now of the universe because of that they argue it's not they argue that the Chaldean astronomer priest who is seeing connections between the heavens and the earth who is seeing as above so below and seeing the Macintoshes in the sky. Having a direct consequence to humanity actually has more wisdom from a modern perspective that that would be basically, he's an astrologer as opposed to an astronomer. Of course, they're arguing that the modern interpretation is blind. It's blind to these deeper connections. So the thing with the Chaldean astronomers they argue the priest is there naturally they opened the influences of dogs. But at least I understand the possible influence at least they understand the danger. This is thing. Yeah. It's like with almost as a Spacey's going back into the state of infancy where you know, you need to know the danger to be able to avoid it. Right. So for example, how many times have we spoken recently about spirit possession on the show. A bit. Yeah. And we've come to the conclusion that people just don't understand any of this. Now, we've exist to be incredibly vulnerable in the past. You had, you know, often religious warnings of such things in different cultures. And it was more of a on of embedded on the standing in in cultures across the world. You go to be wary of these things now that's completely gone. So now a mole vulnerable to it. And this is why the saying that the Chaldean the ancient Babylonian astronomy priest is wiser because at least he's aware of the potential to be corrupted to be tricked to be led astray by these dot force's, maybe whereas the modern atheist scientists they say refuses to even consider the intrusive influence of devils demons and things like that. Because they don't I think maybe the would wise inappropriate. Maybe. Well rounded is maybe more purpose was. Yeah, I guess, but. I guess a modern scientists is still wise they understand the knowledgeable. But that doesn't mean that was that's a good point. Yeah. That's that's a good distinction must be thinking of knowledge. So there is a question to be posed here. And this is where we again, we dive deeper into the details. How do you afford those into connect with this concept of dark gods of doc forces devils and demons other intelligence, how does how do you a photon into that shit? Nick redfern. Well, you know, it's the thing that we've touched on on the show many times before and they make the case Lia, and this is quite obvious to lot of people that listen to the show is lights and objects and beings of being appearing in the air around the earth since time immemorial and this mountains of historical records that talk about these strange events and a lot of them. Of course, they doll tile with modern UFO sightings, see visitations from above and biblical records. You've got old accounts of electrifying account. His with angels and spirits gods coming down from high. You've got descriptions of old Avendano stuff like Ariel phenomenon. Like Silva, shields, fiery chariots, Multan discs comet Suns spinning at midnight. All this stuff kind of smacks of the Afo phenomenon. And then you can go into the middle ages and look at fairies im- Stevens. We spoken endlessly about how that crosses over with Monday abductions really is this kind of framework of watching humanity but also messing with humanity, and they start the yet much of this just rakes of classic flying saucer activity, and I say the raise in this activity is manifesting itself today in this technological sense is because wearing this highly technological age the phenomenon has adjusted itself accordingly. Well, has it though has it adjusted self has purposely given us. The technology to distract us and for the latest away. And this is something that, you know, I've heard before that the sudden burst and technology that we have it's as we can see now, even from modern sociological studies social media is destroying people. It's undermining people it's causing mental and emotional disturbances. All this sudden and rapid access to technology while it seems like it's positive thing. It actually has this kind of doc launching around it where it's not so good. And there's been some suggestions from people that maybe whatever these forces are have given this to us elitist doc paw the authors don't really pursue that the it's too early. The more in line with thinking that the again, the phenomenon is changing its appearance. It's putting on a different moss as you said earlier to appeal to the times, and we've seen this even within the context of UFO sightings in look at the ash sightings of the eighteen hundreds and how that's evolved to more mechanical craft like ghost rockets. In Scandinavia to the incredibly advanced disc shaped higher speed maneuvering Kroft. We have from more modern reports seems to evolve with the times, but there's one thing remains constant they say, and that's that the overall aim of this ruthlessly paranormal interference is the spreading of unrest and uncertainty among all the races of mankind. It's as if something is playing vaslav complex calls me game with human beings. It's a game the outcome of which so far is being thoroughly divisive and genuinely malevolent in its effects on our religion social systems and individual realize ations of the true nature of calls me consciousness. And this is really getting to the crux of their argument is that the dot got the these doc forces. It is a destructive thing. It's a destructive force. Are they something that is to they get into them? Being worst are groups that actually have knowledge of them and. And support them. All right, alternate -ly with this goes, which I'm not expand upon feature show because this much here. They look at the work researching into secret societies, and there's a few instances where supposed- insiders have come forward. And they're almost whistle blows innocence. And this is going back to the seventeen hundreds. I eighteen hundreds where you know, we we want use the term illuminating because that was kind of amalgamation of all these different societies. It's real generic. This is just era is generic. But some of the insiders in these sacred sites came out and said, look, the people pulling the strings of our organization than on human. And this is how I know. And we'll go into some of the descriptions of instances where these Papa Mazdas have revealed their true form that reminds we've only recently when I was telling you about the hellfire club, how this hellfire club that was worshiping these doc forces and. Sacrificing look villages, and they'll plan Qods whatnot in this strange visitors shows up, and they look Neath table. He's close cloven hoops like it's the devil himself. But it's probably one of these doc falses. Well, we'll go into some of that in a UFO context on this episode. Because again, there's all these parallels that connect all this stuff, the authors, the very influenced by John keel. You know, you're right to point that out of the star, John keel is for many people the originator of these ideas, they kind of he kind of pulled the curtains back to the people could realize what was happening. It wasn't John keel almost destroyed by this as well go to towards the end of his life. And I I remember reading somewhere that he basically was I can't find any solutions to this and pretty much amount of. Yeah. Yeah. The problem is and while touch on this in the moment is when researchers start to get close to this conclusion and the good ones usually end up here. They start to get messed with in serious ways. And the. Message from the author on the inside cover this book personally written. It underlines that will demonstrate that when we get to the end of the show, but you know, keel wrote strange creatures from time and space at haunted planet, and he's magnum opus UFO's operation Trojan horse they quote directly from Kiel here on his thoughts on all trails, and I'll just read a little bit. He just not the whole thing. But of couple of important points, Kiel said, the alt-right day off phantoms that come crashing out of the bushes light at night, they seem to be part of something else. He said something sinister and even hostile to us. This nucleate phenomenon has always existed on this planet and has taken many forms. Kiel said, they materialize when lightning courses across the sky will certain mag-, magnetic conditions, prevail in window areas. He said, they are not real physical in the usual sense of those times, but they are real enough while they lost. They can. Hume the forms of one eyed giants stepping out of magnificent flying machines long fingered Orientals driving around in black Cadillacs, which which can melt in the he said in trying to record their activities. We have built up a literature based upon nonsensical. Manipulations and induced, hallucinations cults and small groups of independent researchers have sprung up h dedicated to one Mina group of manifestations h unable to view grasp the whole he says, the flying sources Amelie another frame of reference to provide us with an acceptable explanation for some of these grotesque events, an invisible phenomenon is always stalking us and manipulating beliefs. We see only what shoes to let us see and we usually react in exactly the way, it might expect us to react every culture on earth has legends and stories about the same thing, even the completely isolated tribes of the Pacific islands and the remote inland. Ville. Ages of South America. Again. This is a guy who started to look at you Afo sidings just wanting to know, whether it was all nonsense on and twenty something years later dedicating most of his working life to figuring this out. He's gone beyond the nuts and bolts of sources, hey, saying most people do again, this is a intelligence this invisible. Phenomenon stalking us and manipulate manipulating us. So keel is obviously the best known research that has uncovered this kind of conspiracy. But you've also gone people like doctor made lane, which I think we covered his book recently on the era forms was a different guy. I think it was a different guy. Dr Morris jesup Jess, of course, little bit Smith Frank Edwards. Jacques fillet Brad Steiger? But then these were such as you get close to the answers. They have kind of really mysterious things happen to them. Sometimes. Deadly things happen to them. Doctor lying, Dr Jessop in Frank Edwards old died in mysterious and suspicious circumstances in the Briley via Korea some have speculated that thou deliberately removed from the game taken out because they were getting too close to the real truth of what's behind this. Does it say how they did not in the book? Okay. We'll put that in the shots when we have time to go to the funny, but he does go into detail of two of them. And I think because these were recent suicides that came out close to the release of the book. So that was one on the thirteenth of June nineteen seventy-one. This was a doctor giants McDonald senior physicist at the institute of atmospheric physics professor of meteorology at the university of Arizona. He was found dead in the desert near Tucson. And Dr McDonald was an acknowledged expert on your foes, hit Bain highly critical of how the air force had handled. It some of the loss things he was saying publicly was that. He was speculating that extraterrestrials were already among us, and that they were perhaps even holding hot positions in government sue pretty, and then he just winds up dead in the desert. There was nerve fitness by no reason to take his life. No. No suicide night. It's it's a it's you know, what I was just thinking about it. And you know, when he is stores like this speech. I haven't actually looked into much of what's happened to these researchers keel ended up getting to, you know, an older age, and he was fine. Although he was almost defeated by his investigations by looking into this. But when he is something like that. I know that you can go all these things happen. You know, people die in mysterious circumstances. But not so many related to this phenomenon. When you start seeing a patent it just it's too obvious could actually becomes obvious. Yeah. We'll the patent starts to really appear with professor Rene haughty user world renowned savant. A prolific invente two hundred fifty patents to his name. He was an expert in electron ICs Tra Sonics radio and optics. And he was really into you a focus very very much interested in you affords on the twelfth of June nineteen seventy two he was found dead with a bullet in his head gone in his hand. And this was two days before he was Jud to give a major speech where he announced he was going to reveal a major discovery connected with extra show phenomenon with your foes Elena, guess those gunshot residue on his hand on another details. Not enough. He showed himself in the back of the head and then zipped himself up a suitcase and threw himself in a river. Like, I said pets as possible. But again, this is a guy who was at the top of his career highly respected. Great family life. Absolutely no reason to commit suicide. I mean, why would you commit suicide when you just announced that you've got this major thing you're going to reveal at a conference in two days. It doesn't make sense is like you're doing it to people. But the weirdest thing came from the funeral among the mourners who knew the guy extremely well. They noticed that there were six toll men dressed in black. But again, it's a funeral everyone. There were these six Tolman Khanna looked alike. The nobody knew nobody could account for who they were and everyone who took photographs at the funeral claimed. They took photographs of these six toll men, but when the photographs develops they mysteriously went in any of them, no one had any physical evidence. That though actually they yet everyone soul these six strange men. We'd the who takes photographs at. Funeral someone who wants to find out who these weed men? Say this more examples, I give strange deaths and suicides among scientists in England in the late nineteen seventies. You the Coney scientists that just all stop committing suicide. This really not connected with you, a foes, but they're seeing this trend because those scientists were about to make breakthroughs. It's as soon as there's a breakthrough as soon as there's some kind of knew what being held back. He'll help knowledge is going to be revealed something that gets you closer to the truth. You get removed from the game and the research is that haven't been killed. They all have insane stories of just being manipulated by audiences. Misfortunes Keells got incredible stories even Jacques Vallejo has incredible stories, although he's probably the most kind of based almost you know, foundational nuts and bolts, scientists of the the whole all of them. Remember the story of him researching mystique? Metal's left behind from UFO sightings Mukarram of the details. But I told the story on the show of how he had actually obtained custody of one of these pieces of metal, and it was locked down inside a Bank inside one of the safety deposit box in vault, and I don't remember this the next day. He gets a coal. I remember hearing the story contacted the desert clogged. But I'm probably doing all the details disservice, but what I can remember from the stories. He's contacted by the Bank the next day. And because they're not supposed to have access to it all the only person you've gotta have the ultimately the deposit box and the Bank. He valley's Acadia Paul's Balkin. The Bank has let you into the vault, but he gets a coal early in the morning, and he's Oeste come down to the Bank. And somehow the Bank vault has been opened and unlocked or Jimmy Johnson. Just opened no alarm was set off. No, nothing quote on cameras or anything like that. That no breaking and entering, but the vaults being opened and everything's on touched except for Jacques fillets cited puzzle box, which has been pulled out up, and and the mysterious metal from the UFO that he was studying is gone. So the most classic example, those album Benda, you know, the classics lorries the men in black. He ran the UFO bureau in Bridgeport, Connecticut in nineteen fifties. And it September of nineteen fifty three he wrote to a friend, and it was the same kind of thing with these guys ended up committing suicide. He wrote this letter to a friend saying, look, I've paced together all of the paces of this you Afo puzzle. And I found the patent and I finally got a true explanation for the phenomenon. And he wrote this in Detroit what the explanation walls in this letter toys friend now whatever was in that letter, and whatever the truth was will will never know how come because when he sent this letter off again September nineteen fifty three the strange men in black just appeared on he step one day. Totally unsolicited just appeared and one of them is holding the leda Benda had posted to his friend. Now, we know the story of Benda from gray Baca, he published I knew too much about flying. Sources mentioned many times on the show came out in nineteen fifty six but the office he maintain the gray only told a small portion of the story, we don't know the full story, and then bend himself released a flying sources in the three men which expanded on the story. But even his book, they say was cloaked in all this ambiguous kind of literary terminology. They symbolically. It's like you could tell that he was kind of he's ain't our annoyed and sacred about the true message. It was couched in all this kind of weed nece that didn't seem necessary. But why are they suggesting that he was threatened? Will you point out that the men in black seemed to be the police arm of the ultra phenomenal? Perhaps the the info. Else's of the dots. It's strange that. You should actually mention the men in black and the enforces because and I had no idea that you actually doing this. But in the plus section coming up towards the end of the show had this crazy story, which links with this hall into dimensional explosion idea. But at links from a report from the early nine hundred's is not one hundred hundred and two I believe where it's one of the earliest reports of the men in black showing up associated with the issue predominant, which is nuts because we thought that the men in black didn't really come about until the U Afo phenomena took off in the nineteen forties or late nineteen forties. But no because all the way back to Britain and the nine hundred although you did suggest to me earlier today that you've got reports going back even further are you ready for a sixteen hundred men in black and count on? That's coming up. Well, the the men in black how they appeared to bend. A they were doc skinned ruddy complexion. They had slanted is very toll. They ready strong oars of menace, and they proceeded to tell bender. That he had cracked the flying salsa mystery. But there was some details that he hadn't fully realized. And they told them into the details I explained to him what he'd left out and as soon as he obtained this knowledge Benda quickly fell incredibly ill. A he was out for days afterwards incredible headaches and migraines and his physical ailments. He was debilitated. So they asked this question was he will he was debilitated, but was he eliminated? And this is where we'll cross over briefly into secret societies because they state that Benda Pete to be subjected to an intense experience that's known in occult circles as elimination. This is where Tom alumina comes from. This is a bicycle magical process used by the central hierarchies of all cult groups and secret societies and. During this illumination, the final INA secrets of the cult all the society, imparted and this. Sometimes extremely dis- distasteful, sometimes this strange sociological, even cosmological revelations that don't make sense Texana g for example, with Z new dropping Faten into volcanoes from his old planes DC. Yeah. They say this is all part of the confusion affect and it's this method that alter terrestrial 's used to control and manipulate human belief systems, and this is where coast during this encounter with the men in black. They shape shifted into non human entities. They turned into serpent like entities, that's one of the famous aspects of the story. So the knowledge that he received was so dangerous because I gave him these all the details. That was so illuminating that he became sick from the enlightened knowledge of this says all really illuminating, it's mind blowing. We'll it made him realize that if disseminated it would bring down all political systems, it would destroy the foundations of mon- science. It would produce a massive Steria. So when he finally wrote his book ten years later, all he essentially dumbed down, he disguised the truth. This is what they're arguing that. He's book is actually full of all this semi mystical symbolism. Like, he described being taken an astral projection to a secret, you Afo base hit on the icy wastes of Antarctica where he was yet again confronted by humanoid and monstrous creatures will reveal later how this is actually quite a powerful symbolically from all the sources, the book is really odd in style and content the say, and you know, when you look at this from other your first searches they just think it's just made this up like maybe had a real initial encounter. But clearly his book is just bad shit. Incite. How can we take it seriously? But the authors say what really happened to Benda was much more. Sinister than just a guy went nuts and crazy UFO story. So we'll. Delve into that and the origin of his symbolic after the break. You listening to mysterious universe. We're talking about the dock God's stay with us. Today's episode is brought to you by Madison raid, you can take collaring you'll hair at home to the next level with Madison Reed you deserve. 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It seems to be a patent with mediums and profits as well who have these these peculiar psychical, physical properties. And one example of this is a surprising kind of core of what the officer talking about in this book, and we have to go back to the nineteen twenties and nineteen thirties with the legendary magazine, we tiles and these stories started to appear, and we had tiles fiction or is it. It's fiction store is a fiction magazine. That's we'd stories and these science fiction fantasy stories started to really shock the raiders ship. And though from this guy named HP lovecraft. Now, of course, many of you know, the lovecraft mythos, you know, about Khufu Lou. But how this ties into the concept of the dock odds is something really fascinating and it goes beyond just fictional stories. Because as he's stories were steadily published they came to be seen as part of a gradually unfolding cycle of tiles that made up the literary realize Asian of the all his dreams, and insured. If impulses. These were calls me, visions that had essentially plagued love Kroft since childhood and we've briefly touched on this. I think the loss time we talked about this was referenced by Nick read fund, where he was following the work of authors who have looked into love cross life looked into his childhood. And we can tell from some of the letters. He sent to his colleagues that it wasn't the case that lovecraft would just sit down and being spied and wrought this horrible doc story. He's writing his method was in very much in very many ways similar to the way Bendall was tortured by headaches and migraines and physical ailments when confronting the men in black. So are you suggesting that he was almost channeling, and as he was rotting it was causing drain according to appoint he'll I'm not suggesting it love Croft himself suggested let me get to that. So he obviously he's most famous work is the coal of Khufu. And it's written in nineteen twenty six deals with the attempts of the altar terrestrial 's to break through the dimensional barriers and regain the Old Dominion of earth. And they do this through using human puppets using magic. Right sacrifice and blood rich. Olson? And this theme that humanity is ignorant of the true nature of the universe because of our -cluded vision, and that any unto sudden understanding of cosmic realities would drive Hof mankind, mad and suicidal. This goal missed the same theme that we see with Benda in realizing that if the truth was revealed humanity would go insane lovecraft maintained in his mythos that the coming of the entities, he sometimes term. The ancient ones will the great old ones would usher in a never ending doc age of fear and chaos in the coal of Khufu. It appears that these entities clustered in another dimension and can come to this world only through specific window areas. Will slack gateways and went chase. When keel was uncovering his final thoughts on alter terrestrial, specifically mentions these window areas, they socket gateways. The authors maintain that innocence, the coal of Catholic from lovecraft is a horror story based upon a deep and careful research in true cult theory now in the title of the old ones, they communicate with human beings through dreams. And if the subject is open to the dreams and the concepts coming through they given instructions if they're resistant to the instructions, they give given pain maybe migraines, they give fear and given sometimes complete madness. So love Kroft gives a brief description of what will happen in the world when the old ones regained full Bizac of it. He said man Kant would become free and wild and beyond good naval with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling enjoy then the liberated old ones would teach them new ways to shout. And kill and rebel. And all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom. Now, this is where we get our first connection to secret societies because this passage from lovecraft is really similar to some of the teachings that were leaked from revolutionary secret societies. So the source for this is Adam waas hopped who lived from seventeen forty eight to eighteen thirty. This guy was a Bavarian scholar magician, and he did this incredible work of co defying compiling and making sense of all the magical takings of the assassins, the NAS ticks, the Ross Cruciani, the Templars, the freemasons and more and Hayes the one that terms this umbrella, the aluminum, right, all I'd hence the term eliminating right? And on the outer surface, his aluminum was dedicated to the overthrow of torrential political systems. You know, you. Take down the king and his oppressive monarchy, and you give freedom to the individual and the enlightenment of true spirits. Revelations that up for that the true nature things that are being held back by the system. But a research Nesta Webster found private letters written by the sky sent to his colleagues, you know, the unearthed in some kind of lost family library and probably come from an attic somewhere include. We'll this Adam why stop this Bavarian skull magician. He confided in his colleagues. He's co members of the secret society that the real inappropr- of the group was the blind overthrow of all forms of order all structure all kind of morals and foundations of society, and it was also the importance of the communication with powerful beings. And the establishment of the illuminated minority as a new ruling elite this would re mold mankind. According to the wishes of the spiritual powers they were in contact with. So. So it's almost identical to the mythos that emerged from lovecraft because the the old ones these agents of Kelsen destructions these doc forces in the coal of Khufu. They would use men on earth. They would use influence magicians to perform rituals that would enable them to return. You mean like, doc magicians? Yes. So it's the same thing that's been revealed in these letters of correspondence between secret society members on the surface, again, they're offering this take down of the horrible oppressive structures of society. But in secret, they wanna remove all good things all order and destroy. So that from the ashes they arise as the elite rulers of mankind, and they do the beating of these spiritual entities that God. It's funny actually, how this aligns with the way that the world is at the moment in the way that political uprising is happening and. I was only I was listening to something the other day comical where it was. But essentially a lot of us are being sold this li- like what being sold this lie. That is all the suppression and Italy's horrible things that are happening to people and being split into groups and essentially wall, the unaligned premise of it is that it's good that everyone should be qual yada, yada, yada, yada, yada. It's really being pushed forward by some people that want to essentially destroy society tear, it down tear it apart because eventually they can rise up with complete control. So it's no different. So it's like, it's still happening. It's about power. And in these letters that uncovered Nesta Webster found references to all accepted standards of goodness. And truth would be abolished. It really is tearing down everything. And then that would be able to do what they want without any formal moral restrictions, and this would be them acting out the wishes of their non human masters, which the office state is the same thing that. As being behind everything else have spoken about the dots. It's terrifying. Ben because I think it's still happening. So I can go into more on the secret society stuff for plus members later on because they expand. Let's do the books in multiple pots, they expand on that in great detail. So I'll circle back to that later on possumus. But let's go back to lovecraft. So a little bit about his his bring up. He was born on the twentieth of August eighteen ninety in Providence Rhode Island. He had a short marriage, but kind of fill out of that innoncent twenty four us in York for a short time. But essentially lived in providence, he's entire life. The guy was a total RIC loose, and they state that he's work as really being echoing through people's minds since he died in nine hundred thirty seven and it's true. Like if you look at more than Sifi, whether it's a movies or novels or even video games. The lovecraft mythos is insert. Much of it. This idea of these ancient entities returning to take control of what was their original origin. It's in it's in a lot of stuff. But had they lose it while I'll get to that in a moment. And again, the the physical ailments come up with love Croft as well. He was basically is semi invalid. It was never strong later in life. He became increasingly ill. He died at the age of forty six all his life. He suffered from terribly severe headaches dizziness migraines. He had a pathological loathing of low temperatures, and he had to be ninety degrees Fahrenheit for him at all times, if the temperature up to seventy degrees Fahrenheit, he just become agitated the point of obsession anything low than sixty degrees Fahrenheit. He would start having all these insane symptoms and the story of how once he tried to go outside, and it was. Thirty degrees, and he just immediately collapsed on the ground and needed medical attention that was out for dice. So he's life was misery. He barely left the house and on top of this, physical, torture all his life. He was subjected to these horrific vivid dreams, and visions, and they say that he kind of wove these dreaming visions into the tapestry of tiles. We know today, but basically the whole lovecraft mythos is this awful warning to humanity not to indulge in any form of intercourse with the doc beings from beyond the stars. This is what love Croft was writing about. But wasn't a damn ski having interactions with the Venetians. This is the thing that the tapping into is if you look at the UFO phenomenon contact with with fairies in folklore. Oh, yes, it's always been warnings about Dern have sex with these beings. Lavat ski talking. Into the masters in the Mahatma's, and on this this hundreds of these that make this case somehow lovecraft was waving this warning into his fiction. But as I said, even though it's fiction, this some truth to we'll remember earlier, I said that lovecraft himself would reveal that this was more and fiction, and we can see this where the office. I some of it is described and you said channeling Elliott thi- sites similar to automats riding. And we know this from a letter that was front to sent to his friend Reinhard Klina back in December of nineteen twenty one and he explained to his friend. How he go inspiration for this poem that was about the calls make entity known as nihil off tip, and he described this nightmare. This is what love Crawford. He said Nile off tip is a nightmare. It's an actual phantasm of my own with the first paragraph written before I had full. Awakened. He said weeks of poss- without relief from this headache and dizziness and for a long time three hours. We says it was the most he could work without going insight and added to this was this. We'd ocular trouble. He said he's I was constantly being messed with he had a curious trigger talking of nerves. He says and muscles which startled him. Amidst this gloom and these horrible physical conditions. He said they came this the nightmare of night miss. He said, it was the most realistic and horrible. I've experienced since the age of ten and the stock hideous nece and goss- -ly oppressiveness I could but feebly mirror in my written fantasy. He said the first phase was general sense of undefined apprehension vague terra, which appeared universal. He said I fell in with them these zombie lack men I was afraid yet IGA to see and hear the great the. Obscure the on operable Nile laugh OT after that dream followed the coals of the enclosed story almost exactly. And this is the story he included to his friend in the leda. It ended a moment after I was drawn into the black yawning abyss and world about an vortex with shadows. That once were men as I was joined into the abyss. I omitted a resounding shriek and the pitcher ceased. So he basically cut off oh cop. And he said he's forehead was pounding his e is were ringing, but he just had this impulse to write and preserve the experience, which was real. And how do we know? It's real because it sounds like it's the guy sounds like he's extremely neurotic. And it sounds like he's having these these horrible dreams. So combining those two together, it could become very vivid in very real. But how do we know that it's real does? He just believes it thrill. Well, you can kinda raid between the lines. I mean, he's. Saying that it's the most realistic and horrible his experienced since the age of ten which suggests that he had earlier dreams in his early use. That would just as compelling yet. You know, we'd obviously we don't know for sure that it's real we come, but we can start to read between the lines, but he wakes up with this impulse to right. And he said before he'd even known those almost as if something is controlling him. He had turned on the light. And he was just scribbling. And this is the important part. He says of what I was writing. I had very little idea. He said after a time desisted he kind of washed his face, and he said when I was fully awake. I remembered all the incidences but lost the thrill of fear. And then he said looking at what I had written. I was astonished by its coherence it comprises. The first paragraph of the enclosed manuscript which eat his into his friend only three would. Having been changed. He said I wish I could have continued in the same sub-conscious state. So I think it's obvious there that he's not riding with these conscious mind something else coming coming through him. And yet he continues the story once he kinda snaps out of he fills out the story, but the origin of a isn't really from him sitting down and thinking through and this entity Nile off tip is described. Elsewhere in his work is being this completely black statue. It's like he's black than black. You know, how sometimes shadow people reports I witnesses describe the black the doctors and the ruin right? That's exactly what it is the pitch black. The being is also faceless and often plays. We'd a tonal music on a flute. So it sounds like a Damon though. It sounds like a what would be a classic description of Damon. Yeah. Exactly. And you know, they point out the love cross was often in the grip of unknown forces. Often against these own volition? He couldn't really control what he was producing. So they say if again, if you look at the little details hit you can start to make an argument that lovecraft was more than just this crazy guy, rotting Weadock horrible stories, right? He was actually the term I use. He was like a Kuzmic shooting folk say, yeah, the term it uses that he was in June with them. It was a receiver, and then he would transmit the emissions from higher Elms of Astrum physics like or was he being used as a tool will they say that if you look at love cross stories, I it can almost be seen as coded messages. And they're of great importance just thinly disguised as fiction because they contain hints and pointers that form a series of interlinking clues to the mythology that eventually evolved that the linking. Thread that runs through all these tiles. It's something again, it's been expanded upon in modern fiction. Like, you see this for some reason, this archetype laid down from love Kroft, a sprung up into the basis of so much modern. It's it's part of our culture now, and he auguries the reason for this is because something about this idea has always been hovering around the edges of the human mind. It's like some kind of thing tugging on your consciousness. Right. Well, this is that whole idea of the I guess the the sadness of the human condition that we have this knowledge, but we can't access at this something inside us. That's as you said, Ben tugging at us. Yeah. That's doc. And that one main theme that ties together, they say if you want to understand it you go to again lovecraft himself who wrote all of my stories unconnected as they may be a. Based on the fundamental law or legend that this world was inhabited at one time by other races who in practicing black magic lost their foothold and were expelled yet live on outside ever ready to take possession of this earth again. So that immediately reminds me of the Islamic law of the gin, the gene with the doc form, the doc beings of smoke advice that had previously inhabited the earth before human beings. But then they were cost out. They lost their place of inhabitants on the earth and ever since of being trying to breach out dimension and get back a little fits with popular culture as well. It's fits into the idea of the colonizers from the X falls that the greys were originally he they somehow lost earth. But now the the coming back. Okay. So one last point on love lovecraft, and how this ties into Benda e c love cross. Remember, how Benda said he was Astrolabe taken out and put on board a UFO and taken to Antarctica. Well, love Croft wrote a story about Antarctica being a landing point extraterrestrials. It was in one of these novellas. It was cold at the mountains of madness. He published in nineteen thirty one any recounts, the finding by this modern scientific expedition of a lost city shaped from and toxic mountains and the inhabitants with a great old ones who emigrated of millions of years ago. They were totally non human in appearance and commanded mighty intellects had psychic powers, they also practice astral projection and love cross fiction story of matches with Benda's so-called fact, but you know, where this also crosses over with fricken, David Wilcock and Corey good with all this that I just hijacked it. That's the thing. Like, dave. This is my point is that the something about this. Stories something about love cross. But yeah, Corey good. And we'll talk a now saying that this this the blue avian there's the blue avian so they came from outside our system and now they've returned. And they're also talking now about this underground, it's complete garbage. This thing city. Ancient ruins the found an an talk to cut landing strip on. We'll hooks forehead, but you know, kind of. Kind of. I think obviously they spin it around because the blue avian on these old forces here to destroy us. They he to save us number. That's the thing. Right. It's like that old saying beware wolf and shapes clothing comes to us. It comes to humanity and you see in so many different things we don't even just talking about. Let's not talk about literature and fiction. We just talk about cases of people like the contact these these things comments, I was saving you from environmental destruction with saving you you clear weapons. But I truly believe that they have an ulterior if not quite duck motivation will what's the ultimate weapon against the dots. The light. Well, it's funny because at the end of this first part the first part by Anthony Roberts. He says as much of the out of control full seems to be wad -ly paradoxical and silly. They have close up before this. From shock filet. Who said look out of all the you know, inflammation, indictor gathered Saimaa is just doesn't make sense. It's high strangest it's nonsensical. You can't make any heads tiles of it. They said this. Well, developed sense of humor appears to be one of the most effective and counter controlling ways and defense mechanisms against this. They say remember the old axiom, the devil that proud spirit cannot bear to be mocked. And I thought that was interesting because that's often how we deal with a lot of these topics on the show that the absurdity, and we just loft at how stupidly ridiculous it is. But they seem to argue that there's something to this as some kind of power in this. So part two starts to get you know, really a fascinating when they're revealing more of these connections, and they call this pot. This pots written by Jeff Gilbertson? It's the trial of clings oil. And. They have this quote from John keel at the Stott has said, why don't they contact us the skeptic sauce kid might be better for us to ask. Why didn't they leave us alone? It's this very ominous coaling from Kiel, but Gilbertson starts to place all of his work. That follows in this book in the context of this ancient myth, and I I wanna tell you this myth and kind of set it up because I think it's important to understand how far back this goes in and how foundational this is they use the story of possible the author, Ian, not and the myth as a peed in many forms throughout the west. You've got really early forms going back to French poets in eleven eighty AD. They say it's much much older than that it Streit's back to shamanistic Indo European ancestry. The stories found again throughout all European cultures in wiles the tag. Mrs Paroda in France. It's Palesa vile Palesa vowels in English shits Percival, and you probably know the story of Percival just give me this. We'd blank load. Yeah. I can't knock on the. But the best version he says is of course, the German version from Wolfram von Rickenbach, this guy was Bavarian night. And he basically gathered up the strands of all these old oral traditions any wove them together. In this mythical tapestry of his version of possible and aiding spied Richard Wagner to write his opera. Oh well hospital, but he's the basic summary. I'll try and really break it down for. So essentially, it's a real struggle between good naval and he's version of possible von Esch box possible. It opens in the costal of the guardians of the grail. And it's built a taught this holy mountain. Mount Salvat and the gr-. Rail is the fountainhead of all earthly good, and wisdom and benevolence and at radiates this energy across the land. It gives everything for Tilleke. It basically turns the precincts of the castle into the garden of eight him. It's perfect place trees and plants flourish and everything's in balance hominy and the leader of the grail knights and photogaphs Hayes grievously wounded after a battle with the black magician clings, all no one can alleviate suffering. No, one can fix his wound. It's a mortal wound and he's running out of time so clings. Aw is the really important character to this cling soul is a tool of doc forces. He's a tool of the doc forces. These are demonic entities who seek to Vert the perfection of God. And the trying to turn the world into a hideous. Flex of their own selves. Right. So they're really like the doc on the authors of talking about. And they've taken all the horrible power. And they've fused it into this mid black magician clings will. And they've enabled him to build conflict a blasphemous mockery of the grail castle in a nearby valley. So he's done again. It's like this the anything he's done the evil version of the castle and this black wizard. He's converted is basically moral, right? It was this poisonous wasteland, and he's converted it into this seductive counterfeit of paradise. And this all these emphasis in the story of this kind of promiscuous, self-indulgence and sexual license. That's available in this paradise. It's like a. It's a Sikh parody of true perfectionists, I in the story, and it's full of sucky sucky by essentially full of maidens who were incredibly sexy. It's like thousands of the hottest ins- Instagram thoughts, you could ever imagine. I hope you'll aiding this kind of beautiful amazing paradise. But this something just not right about it. And they're all all these spells to trap people who to so many of the grail knights have have basically been Louis into clings oils. Garden are the being lewd by the sucky by lured by the allusions, and if Sekine their higher selves they've given into their low instincts have had relations with the Instagram thoughts that populate these area. So and they end up with spirituel clue media, basically screwed that trapped there. So and fought is the later of the groundnuts he wants to fight cling. Saw he wants to put an end to the black magician. So he carries the sacred Lance that pierced cross side. That's he's alternate weapon. And there's some legitimate. So whatever it was the Lance of logic was your of destiny. Detonate? That's the one. Yeah. He takes this sacred, Lance. But this some kind of trick the clings plays on him. And they don't give the details, but essentially these black magician. He steals the spear and strikes and fall to on the paints. He has a horrific wound on the groin. This is the wound that he cannot heal. So into this situation comes out innocent questing not possible he mates and fall to the the king of the ground nights. And he learns of the horrible wound God, and how clings oars setup this horrible land full of Instagram thoughts and allusions, and it's just awful so possible rides out there. And he's like I'm going to defeat this black magician, and he almost succumbs to the illusions and the temptations of this fake land. Right. But he has his supreme spiritual effort. He doesn't give him. He overcomes. He's low instincts. He masters himself, and he fuses this mastery into high spirituality, and he'd be basically becomes invincible because he's he's. Walking. It's like this. It's all stories walking the path of righteous say, it sounds like old Buddhist. You know? It's like Jesus walking. Yeah. The desert's tempted by the devil. It's this old religious goodness. Yeah. And he somehow takes the speed from clings all the black magician magician. He makes the sign of the cross and instantly the black wizard dies before him and the whole illusion of his costal. And all the the suck. You buy fades away old remedies appears. Yeah. And he rides back to the the real grail castle heals. The pain of the bleeding and focus. Using the tip of sacred, Lance and the mission is accomplished and the holy grail the magic which in stories described as a magic crystal goes hole and just Shawn's across the land. And heels the whole world this ancient story, right? The crux of the story is that evil can always be be overcome by benevolence in fort chewed. And purity and the Hora that's unveiled upon the world by the doc forces using this black magician this human as their focus is a horror that can be removed when it's emptiness when it's loser in nature is unveiled when you figure out that it's empty E conquer. So is this where these is a heading that Benda worked out the reality. And it's all nothingness, but it's all of made up to be something. That's not really. Well, the clue is in the information. That's being given to people like Benda. Yeah. Maybe Benda figured out that there was it the true nature of it. Whether he managed to conquer it is the story in but. The whole reason he's mentioning this possible myth is that it'd be points out. This fact, and the author state that this is a true fact of the universe. There are forces deliberately trying to divert us from out true inheritance through counterfeits, which play on a lack of innocence. And then he starts listing off characters and many of these people we know these are the clings goals. These the black magicians that have been led astray that a used as tools all of the dock voices of the Dhakal. It's so guess who's mentioned I VAT ski a youth earier liable Ascii in the theological society to not to piss anyone across the road in the one that has been very good to us over the years, of course. But in saying that there is some, you know, there are some docs stains on the theological library when it comes to. To remember the guy's name. Now. That's terrible. Who was the guy that VAT ski was a Ledbetter lead bit on. Yeah. And he's charging sexual energy with young boys. Yeah. Pretty much. It's not clean. It's not all or goodness. That'd be buckle. Jackson was in the. Makes sense. Ignorant, but anyway. No. But this is the thing. Right. So I haven't heard that before. And I don't want to jump on the bandwagon. But you can't avoid you cannot avoid the topic that the guy was involved in terrible. Axle, it's not like they're just list them and say, look, these are the individuals we have from history who are exactly the same as the evil magician from the possible myth. Yeah. They they list out why. And so we'll ask you so full. He if you not familiar the essentially. Some say brought eastern mysticism to the west, right? Just born in the Ukraine in a very well to do family, and she literally ran away to join the circus. Sure, she ran away she became a circus rider. She started to two pots of the ace. She drifted into spiritual circles in Europe and Egypt in her childhood. She had been terrorized by strange, visions fiery eyes, staring at her from the darkness of the corners of doc bedroom and plagued by headaches, and we'd maladies much like love Kroft much like Benda and she had a abilities clear abilities of medium ship. And when she eventually went to the US this medium ship, and she started channeling spirits border into contact with of course enthusiasts in the field. And one of those was Colonel all caught who was a journalist who. Became one of Levesque's followers, fuller all around the world because eventually they left the US and took root in Madrid in India. But since they left the US blow VAT ski had started talk more and more of the Himalayan Mahatma. It's the Mazdas this secret brotherhood of beings who behind the evolution of the planet and one day, the journalists all caught who followed VAT sqi had a visitation from one of these Mahatma's, and this is a quote from all costs riding, which gives us an idea of the entity looked like he said, I saw towering above me an oriental with long raven hair hung, his shoulders. He's is were alive with soul fire is which were at once beningo and piecing in glance as the complexion. He's these entity was Brown skinned. So if you're with us when we were talking about John Keells work recently. You'll notice that was his name apples and those strange men in black the following keel around interacting with Keells subject. So the people kill working with same description that would described as having an oriental appearance. Angula features oriental like is long raven hair. Many of them having a ruddy complexion was often discussed the Brown skin. And we'll come back to ski later for plus members. But next up on the list is Alice to Croly, of course, because he was a deviant though. I mean, you've heard the stories I mean, the sex rituals. He did a Jack leading onto fly paper than sticky to the wall stuff. Like, it wasn't that bad. But it was close to it. Like, it was pretty filthy. Some of the stuff written about him is much worse than that role. Really? Yeah. No good sacrificing sucker fussing, young boys. Like, you serious Ledbetter style. Does he? That's that's that's horrible. That's laughable. But it's horrible. Yeah. It's well. Yeah. It's pretty awful, but the whole point of this and the whole point of listing vats ski I is that Crawley was very influenced by both Ascii and he desperately wanted to contact Mahatma. He wanted to contact one of VAT skis Mazda, this group that controlled human evolution. And he's famous book of the law was dictated to him by one of these entities known as I was who appeared to him in Cairo 'cause he did this. He did this ceremony to to contact one of them HAMAs. The entity disclosed Croly that the Christian religion was dead. That corley was to be the messiah of kind of Neo pagan system in which license and rule of the strong figured prominently and another of corley spiritual contacts went by the name of a stock. And Curley described the long face abundant, and very warmly black hair. Deep violet is set. Obliquely like Chinese is he said, the cheekbones will high and the expression fees. So again, the same description that all caught gave of these so-called Mahatma's and Mazdas that boulevard. Ski was in touch with one of curly's spurts of friends that came light was supposed to originate from out of spice as well. This is all part of a patent that this starting to assemble of eventually, they mention just Smith in the forming of the the moment church. And if you Ray Joseph Smith's account of how he first in counted the angels in these beings eighties. Just you Afo you Afo Yuba like kneeling down and seeing this light coming down from the heavens. And he said when it reached the top of the tree tops, it filled the all area and. The the crow he doesn't say Croft but the object landed in front of him rested upon the earth. He said, and it was in Philip in light. And he was in wrapped in this heavenly vision. He saw two beings who looked exactly like each other which sounds like descriptions and men in black or people who have encounters with AT's I claim a look the same. When you start seeing the patent though, you'll mind starts wondering like it for me. I think the other religious audiology in here that have been caught up like had these entities come through. And actually created entire religions in the case of moment ISM. I mean that s the origin of the religion is from these bangs down and it's weird because but moments aunt dog. There's no even though it's weird. But I don't, you know, I don't think moments have any particular belief systems that are about doesn't matter stock right because I didn't influence remember from the this is why the story of pasta. Title is important. And I want to say this to offend anyone who follows that religion. Because I think you're right. There are some really good traditional things within moments him. But if you look at the clings ause facimile of the grail causal, it looks very similar, right? Yes. Beautiful from the outside. It's full of beautiful maidens and this wonderful garden of Aden. But it's a facimile. There's another religion. That tells you that you get a Hollywood beautiful maidens as well. Yeah. Exactly. So this is this is why they use that that myth as kind of the context look at all this stuff. But essentially with Joyce Smith, you know, later of coal see is in encounters the angel who basically tells him that the covenant made by God with Israel is about to be fulfilled. And there's a second coming and they need to prepare for it. And this is where Suskind we'd because. He's told the the night of Americans were remnant of Israel. And I had kept a sacred history before they became degenerate and their records contain divine revelations, and if FIFA to the Coles Joseph Smith was to be the one to make these records public. So the angel the being he encountered told him where I were and instructed him to go and find them, and that's where he found the golden tablets with these strange archaic characters and he found these two crystals. The guy him psychic abilities to translate it. And remember, we just recently did I did that segment on some of these discoveries found in North America that do have this. We'd amalgamation of ancient Hebrew and ancient Babylonian and just a mixture of this strange ancient language, but you can't make sense of it because it's not ancient Hebrew. It's not that baloney. It's not a gypsy doesn't fit. Anyway, it's. Some we'd mix and then of course, you have Georgia Danske now Georgia damn skis initial contacts with the Venetians and the sat Saturn ins, it's a similar description like they had long type ring fingers lodge com. Green is slightly the slant. So again, slightly angled is Haya cheekbones other entities. He he met met from satin. They had a ruddy complexion. Again. He was taken in a black car to a flying salsa. Absorb all the spice beings with doc complexion, and incredible lovely young women. So again, the possible myth with these Instagram faults that were really suck. You buy transformed. We see the same thing in the contact day titles absolutely rules or a rain these incredibly hot plates got Dan in the taught blue outfits. They basically wearing space yoga pants all the time. You know what I'm talking about? I've seen it. It's all day. If you look into any of the focal, it's all there, you've got George king, and the theory society who is essentially in contact with the masters who tell him to prepare for to be the voice of interplanetary parliament, do you know what I'm seeing he though it's always targeting the very lowest. I guess the very basic, primal urges of human beings. It's basically like we're a bunch of chimps and we're being offered bananas. It's the same thing. Disrespecting women to say, non as you may blow jobs. Essentially, but what I'm saying is is that it's not targeting anything. That's good and wholesome targeting is things down not saying either sex isn't good Molson, but it's targeting basically, what people want so pal and six and money. So you've got people like Levinsky at a damn ski, and they all getting pal attention, but it's all this low level stuff. Like, it's really like with so easy to sucker in and then influence other chimpanzees, and so the pattern that starting to emerge from pl- Ovide ski and Croly in these other contact as it's weird because the physical descriptions match as well, so the encounters with these beings, I have long black hair penetrating slanted eyes that seem to glow they have a dark ruddy Brown complexion. Again, Crowley's thick by class. Sanford is glowing eyes dock complexion hot cheek buns long fingers. And the teachings told remain the same remember Bovespa? Mentally is in many cases, it's tearing away the autho docks spiritual traditions like below VAT ski bringing her we'd kind of messed up eastern mysticism to the west starts taking away from the orthodox foundation of the beliefs. So people who traditionally maybe go to church and follow the author talks Christian teachings. They are now kind of lewd away by this very attractive. Yes. Again, the the bananas. Yeah. Very true spit on them ritual. Non is. That's what it is. And with falling four with some of our we're falling for it will being pulled away. Yes. So it's your. Additionally, I would look at that and say Bullivant ski just did this out of her own will. And the fact that this might of kind of undermined some traditional beliefs in western society is just a consequence. You know, there's nothing behind it. But after raiding the full breadth of what the that work from Robertson Gilbertson. There is a good argument that there is an intelligence behind this. It's not random. It's not this chaotic thing that just happened. It's very carefully orchestrated test him. I think it's a test for humanity. I think we're all this real integrate citizens the thing become very narcissistic as human beings, and we tend to think that even from a religious perspective recently as you might have picked up on the show. I personally been looking into Buddhism Mullah the concepts. I'm trying to kind of head that way cockpit. That yet. But anyway, but I think it's all about whenever people have this change about spiritualism Judith Lucy's. A really good example. She has done all these TV series. She's an Strang comedian. But she's done TV series on her being raised as a Catholic then going over to becoming an atheist and now looking for all the eastern traditions and whatever else, but it's all very understanding her as an example, but it's all very narcissistic crowd. It's very about you and your journey. And of course, religion is a very personal thing. But I think that because of that we get so caught up in how what I believe in where I am. And how I fit in that we don't really consider that it could be humanity as a whole like all on the same journey together. We're all going through the same experiences. We all question. Why he we all have questions as to what the reality is beyond? What we can't see. But it's almost like humidity is a hall is being tested by these forces. And that's pulling you know, little groups people why. But it hasn't overacting affect of the entirety of humanity. And maybe it's like this kind of point system where if enough human beings full too that whatever they're trying to do they win. It's like. Go to be enough. And there's always saying as long as one good person exists. She malady won't be destroyed. But it's like, well is that true? Is that if you get enough people to follow this doc path humanities ruined whatever this forces wins. And it's always about coming back. Right. Like the djinn. They're trying to come back all the colonizers at trying to take back. It's almost like if you get enough people to go down the dock path, humidity crumbles, and they can come and take back over humidity all the planet, at least it's funny because what you're describing it's actually laid out in some of the communications between sacred societies really to a very specific degree. And we want to have time to go into that to today. I will have to expand upon that later episode, and it's an entirely different topic that ties into this. It's like a hall of the party. You can go down. Where today we've spoken about the UFO side of things touched on Levinsky briefly and his lot more on her and. You know, the the contact the era in that kind of stuff, but you can go down this completely all the path. And look it secret societies. And again, this idea that they've being influenced to undermine some kind of spiritual coal that connects humanity to sunshine been saying, yeah, it's like we've lost this connection to something higher. And what makes it really fascinating is again, just just how blatant this yelich some of these communications saying on we just have to destroy it. We have to completely destroy it. So that we can take over and you serve Al Mazda zither it's really about. I really do think that I mean going back to the beginning of the show. It's really rudimentary. But it's really the fi. I'm not even talking from religious perspective. It's joss. What is this fought between good naval? And whatever that means to you will then so be it, but really the two fundamental forces and they're battling it out. And we're stuck in the middle of it. We'll have more examples that go. Into the ancient connections as well. I've got a few stories going back to the sixteen hundreds. But we're running at a time time on this this free edition of MU. So I might touch on those briefly off to the break for plus NBA's where we reveal the men in black with very much hanging around in the seventeenth century. Oh, good because that will tell very nicely with my segment, and we'd le- they had the equivalent of black Cadillacs driving around we'd horse and carriage yet. They have a wholesome carriage that black as black and brand new, but it's we'd le- immortal. No one's ever seen before. It's just some kind of yet. It's some kind of what they think the carriage brand. It's always just a little bit ahead. But it doesn't fit slightly off in got more on space beings and underground things as well. That's coming up for plus and we visit skull island. It's not. Skull islet, but we will go to sub locations where there are gigantic in sectors that are poisoning and killing people. And also, we're going to be heading into the stories of the idea that into dimensional travelers whether they actually humanoids or craft or whatever else caused explosions and this reality that mess up dinner parties on them. The dinner party. Yeah. It's just not good at all this Rosenberg was very disappointed. And if you wanna get more of the dot God's because I want to go down that all the path look at the secret society stuff the in the alumina anymore, which basically goes all the way back to Jay z. I mean, Jay z again, Jay Z, A new is real JC is one of the dots. Pulling the strings really, really. Oh. That's how this is the problem. It's alwa- is channeling the I was just thinking about a car this week. And of course, if you recall pulling the audio of kala what he was channeling Trump, the founder of happy happy sides. Add what out there a few weeks ago or a couple of months ago? But all I have my head down as someone asked about why do you think that you go to a lot of people aren't happy with Trump and commerce responses? Yellen. Each other the office. Because we always get spam. Coles at the end of the day. You know, like telemark is trying to sell stuff always comes at the same time every day. So, you know, they're calling and they wait feta answer. They'll just coal and be like, I am going with awful you for investment. And you just let them do this spiel. And now, I've just been letting them talk and just going. Say yeah. And then they'll keep talking and then they'll finish say. Keep going. Oh. Slow fun. This is the stuff that you've got be honest. Got to be honest. We're more often employs so. Yeah. More doc stuff coming up. We'll go into the eliminates stuff in plus show's coming up, and after the break all touch on some of the I really want to tell you the story from the seventeenth century. It is so bizarre to get access to that head to mysterious universal org forward slash plus all the details of their you. Get access to the extensions we do every single Friday. And if you're a plasma, but you get an exclusive season as well a special plus season comes out for members comes out on Tuesdays, totally different shows. You also get an ad free version of the university saw. 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Friday, March 27, 2020

COVID-19: What You Need to Know

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Friday, March 27, 2020

"It is an ABC news special. Kobe knew what you need to know from. Abc News headquarters here is correspondent. Aaron Katersky the United States now has more cases of novel Corona virus than any other country. It is certainly an unwanted distinction the number of cases in the US approaches. One hundred thousand now and there have been more than thirteen hundred deaths today. Some help. The House passed a two trillion dollar relief. Package by far the largest stimulus in modern history. Abc's Karen Travers covers the White House. This represents direct payments jobless benefits money for states Karen. What exactly in this bill. Well it's two trillion dollars Erin and that is a lot of federal money. It's over eight hundred billion dollars that goes to support small and larger businesses. It's going to boost unemployment benefits enhancing those for millions of Americans and there's also one hundred billion dollars in assistance for hospitals and health systems across the nation. This is something that there was a bit of partisan fighting about but something that both Republicans and Democrats did want to make sure was included. Because you're starting to hear big calls Across the nation for more federal. Help the other big thing. This is what matters to Americans. There are direct payments to American tax payers. Twelve hundred dollars We'll go in checks either direct deposit or check by mail over the next couple of weeks. They say the best case for this getting out would be starting around April sixth. You could get this faster if you have direct deposit if you file your taxes that way in the past Garin. The president is signing this bill. He wants to help to get to Americans but he is also in recent days sought to distance himself from the federal response. He know Aaron. The president has made himself the face of the federal response to Kobe. Nineteen because he's been doing a daily press briefing for now two weeks yesterday at the briefing. He said help is on the way and he was really a I think trying to have that human connection he was asked questions about the unemployment claims. He was asked questions about small businesses. That now are letting go workers because they have no business coming in and he was trying to connect with them but over and over kept promising. It's going to get better because the federal government is going to give you money but I think it's also notable while he is the face of the federal government's Response Aaron. He keeps trying to push the responsibility and with that some of the potential blame back on the state and local officials. He made it very clear in an interview on Fox News on Wednesday night. He says this has to be managed by local government and by governors. It can't be managed by the federal government. He sees himself in a support role but the federal government can swoop in and provide resources and assistance when necessary an errand. I see a big fight brewing between the trump administration and governors like governor Cuomo in New York And governor new so maybe in California over critical resources that they say they need right now and the federal government is not yet ready to give it but Karen the federal government does have an essential role to play and can marshal resources like no individual state. Kellyanne and the president has been asked about this. He resisted the White House last week. Doesn't the buck stops with you? Famous presidential line of course and he said normally does but the president quickly said this has never been done before in this country you know and he certainly has talked in recent days at his almost amazement that this is happening to him to his administration to his amazing economy But you know I think Aaron One thing that we should note is that while he seems to be shifting responsibility and that potential blamed on the road to state and local officials for now it may be working. There's a new. Abc News Washington Post Poll. That found that the president has his highest approval rating in our poll since he took office forty eight percent. Fifty one percent of Americans approve of how he is handling this crisis. Interestingly two-thirds say they're confident that the federal government can handle this outbreak. We'll see if those numbers are the same in a couple of weeks. Abc's Karen Travers. More states are feeling this now. Abc's Jim Ryan is here with us. In Jim there's been a spike in cases in Louisiana. It happens every day. They see them. Rise by twenty deaths occasionally a few hundred cases positive cova cases. And it's happened again. Death-knell at least one hundred nineteen people have died. Twenty seven hundred positive cases across the state of Louisiana. Interestingly Aaron they are concentrated in and around New Orleans. It's a fairly sizable state and yet right there. In the southeastern part right were the Mississippi flows off into the Gulf of Mexico. Where you find the most cases about half of the state's total Teheran. I was struck by something authorities for saying that had they known earlier or sooner and someone had told them they would have canceled Mardi Gras. Yeah pretty big step of major thing. The the major event in that city for the whole year and yet the Mayor Letizia Cantrell says that if she had had some indication that this was coming that anything like this was coming she would have completely cancelled. Mardi gras remember that during Mardi Gras. The the biggest things that happen to people were struck and killed by floats and that seemed to be a real tragedy that time now we know or at least the suspicion is that corona virus arrived in Louisiana during Mardi Gras. Someone probably brought it in from outside the hundreds of thousands of people who visited the city. One of them maybe more than one seems to have brought this virus virus into the state with them. I mean Jim. Beyond Mardi Gras Bourbon. Street is crowded on any day of the week. Oh absolutely in any Friday midday. You're likely to see crowds of people. They're enjoying lunch. Some of the best food in the country. Abc's Jim Ryan in the meantime researchers are scrambling to find treatment. Tests are underway with chloroquine and old malaria drug that may work in concert with Z. Three mice in Dr Della Tagore from Johns Hopkins and the ABC News Medical units us. Now those new research out about this study came out of Mayoclinic highlights really critical point about chloroquine hydroxy chloroquine. These are anti-malarial Medications. And they've also been used for things like Lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. But we've seen a lot of doctors across the globe using them off label severely ill patients with Kobe. Nineteen the thing is they're not FDA approved and it would require much more testing before we know if they're the best choice but as that decisions being made doctors are doing the best. They can with what they know. It's important to remember that there's one side effect that cannot be forgotten and that's sudden drug induced cardiac death which basically means that the medication can prolong a part of your heart rate. Call Your Cue T. C. in triple. That's less important to remember than it is to remember that your heart can stop from this now. It is a rare side effect. But it's not a side effect. We can forget so the team at Mayo put together a really helpful guide to help doctors decide how at risk their patients are encouraged getting. Ekg's to help show that cutesie interval and hopefully be able to save some lives in the process especially as these medications are used more and more there's been increasing talk about herd immunity in other words giving everyone the infection deliberately so that they become immune. Is that something? That's realistic? So that's a tough one. That's what we do a lot of times with other vaccines. We hope that when the majority are immunized or vaccinated than the rest will be protected. The problem is that while the concept of herd. Immunity is sound. It's dangerous to do right now. With covert nineteen. We don't have any. Fda approved medications. We don't have a vaccine and as we hear more and more every day hospitals around the country are already working beyond capacity. So if we intentionally undo stay at home orders and social distancing that we've put in place while most certainly put thousands if not hundreds of thousands more in the hospital away from the virus itself. There's what it's causing all of us to do. And that is namely stay home and it turns out that doctors are learning more about what we should be doing. And maybe what? We shouldn't be doing while we're all staying at home and working from home or learning from home it turns out Dr Tagore. You've learned more about kids and their ability to pay attention while everyone's homeschooling freight kids and families together at home all day. Can you imagine again so a lot of parents are taking on the responsibility of doing homeschooling? This is something that's brand new and while there are a lot of resources available online. A lot of teachers are going out of their way to provide resources at home. It's a fairly new concept for a lot of families and families think that because kids are at school for you know six hours or eight hours of the day that they should do that. Same amount of work at home but research is telling us that that's probably not true. Kids can't really stay focused that long and so a trick that they came up with in this study was to multiply the child's age by two to five minutes so four year old for example would be able to focus for about eight to twenty minute periods. Give them a little bit of education and then give them a break and go back and forth for as long as you and the kid will tolerate a very brief way to think about it. For other age groups. Elementary School kids can tolerate about one to two hours of instruction per day middle schoolers for about tutor three and high schoolers can tolerate three to four for all of us parents. Who have kids at home trying to learn? Dr Della Maga poor from Johns Hopkins and the ABC News Medical Unit. Our thanks to you coming up my colleague. Amy Robak and Dr Jennifer Ashton with more of your questions about corona virus. I'm Aaron Katersky. You're listening to an ABC news special. You're listening to ABC News Special Covert Nineteen. What you need to know here is NBC. News correspondent Amy Rohbock. Yes we made it through another long week and the developments are tracking right now. Global cases of the corona virus have climbed to more than half a million with at least twenty four thousand deaths around the world plus the ranks of recovering. Patients is growing as well now. More than one hundred twenty two thousand Americans at least thirty states on virtual lockdown efforts intensify to stop the spread and with me now our ABC chief medical correspondent. Dr Jen Ashton and Dr Jen. We the. Cdc has issued new guidance on what to do if you think you have corona virus when it safe to Andrew `isolation so tell us what those recommendations are exactly and we've been really encouraging them to release these because there's so much confusion people now being told to assume they have covert nineteen if they have a range of symptoms but then a lot of confusion about when they can leave their home when they can go back to work so the bottom line is three days after having a fever that seventy two hours without any fever reducing medication or seven days from when the symptoms. I started now. This is going to be integrated with new data as we become capable of testing for antibodies. Because again it's really unknown. How long people shed virus and therefore how long they can be infectious or contagious. But right now these are the new. Cdc recommendations all right. Dr Jen and we will be checking in with you in just a bit in the meantime though we turn now to. Abc's Rachel Scott who is in Washington DC with all the latest headlines for us here are some of the developments that we are monitoring British prime minister. Boris Johnson has tested positive for Kobe. Nineteen Johnson says. He will continue to lead the government's response to the pandemic while and self isolation at number ten Downing Street he is urging people to stay home to save lives. Delta joins united and American Airlines and using grounded passenger planes to transport tons of critical cargo thousands of pounds of pharmacy pharmaceutical supplies and other essential items coming in internationally with more flights expected and a Delta spokesperson confirms to ABC News that more than twenty one thousand employees have volunteered to take unpaid lead Delta employees about ninety thousand people worldwide. The Nation's first responders continue to be under threat L. as police and fire departments have at least seventeen members recovering in home quarantine after testing positive. And New York's deputy police commissioner. John Miller has been hospitalized with the virus. Symptoms Miller is a four. Abc News correspondent and Anchor and this word from ESPN the NFL draft is expected to go on as scheduled beginning April twenty third. Commissioner Roger Goodell acknowledging current uncertainty saying different day doesn't ensure conditions will be more favorable. That's the latest from here. Amy To you all Right Rachel. Thanks so much we appreciate it. As millions of Americans lose work or stress over the threat of losing your job it can be scary to see those bills piling up and no money coming in so here to walk us through some of the ways to ease. The financial strain is certified financial education. Instructor Bolles a copy. And we want to welcome you bowl because we know everyone is worried about their bills right now and at the very least there is some relief in place. This two trillion dollar stimulus bill. That was passed by the Senate yesterday. So tell us what this means for the general public. Yes so do break down. The stimulus package higher level individuals to receive a checkup traveler hundred dollars. Married Couples receive twenty four hundred dollars and parents with children under the age of seventeen. We'll get five hundred dollars for each child. However for individuals. Earning more than seventy five thousand dollars or couples. Earning more than one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. This thing was amount will go down and for those individuals. Earning magnate thousand dollars or couples. Ernie one hundred and nine hundred thousand dollars or more. They would not qualify for the package so some people are getting help but it might not go that far. So you have five tips that you're gonNA share it with us now on how to keep up with bills during this pandemic and what people could do with the money from the stimulus. Bill and the first tip. You have is to prioritize important bills. Yes so if you're getting a stimulus check or you have your income reduce or you have unfortunately lost your job. Your main focus right now should be should be to prioritize. What's most important and this would be your food. Your housing your core utilities at any transportation needs that you have. This should come first in your plan. The next step you say. Scale BACK ON THOSE NON ESSENTIALS. Yes so when it comes to non-essential spending you want to put that on pause until things get better with your financial situation and so think about ways that you can stretch your dollars. What do you have at home that you can meal clan? Can you switch from brand name generic names and what other things can you do without right now in the season online shopping's a big one but given the fact all under quarantine? Now we have nowhere to wear. Those clothes remind we can put that on. Hold Right now. Now that makes a lot of sense and also you say worked the phones. You can call your creditors you can call your bank absolutely so. Do Not make the assumption that your creditors and research providers your lenders assume that you're going through financial difficulties. Pick up the phone and call them and let them know what you're going through and that you need assistance. Many of these companies are willing to work with your entire payment plans or delayed payments and many are waving late fees and waving transferring accounts of collections. You have to call and communicate you situation with them. That's really important. So of course you've got to let them know and your final tip. I really like you say get creative to earn income during this time. Yes so what skills do you have. That you can monetize. What things you have in your home that you can sell and also born to keep in mind that if you really need the money right now it's okay to work at a job below your skill set so there are a lot of companies and industries that are hiring right now. Amazon just announced one hundred thousand dollars. One hundred thousand jobs grocers courier services are all hiring so it's okay in this time to work on your skill set if you need money and then go back to your regular job when things get better now. It is just temporary -portant to note that bullets economy. Thanks so much for that important advisory. Appreciate it thank you. Although sports at all levels have temporarily been put on hold many athletes are staying in the game and Chicago cubs. First Baseman and world series. Champion is doing just that Anthony Rizzo. He's giving back the hospitals and healthcare workers right there on the front lines and Anthony. Rizzo joins us. Now thank you so much for being with us today. Anthony and we certainly want you to tell right now. The Rizzo Family Foundation is helping so many people right now during this corona virus outbreak. So we have Thank you for having me on. We have surrogate over thousand hot meals now to from mine workers into hospital workers the staff of hospitals just to help them out during these times. Malawi's Stover's don't know. They're allowed to go to the grocery store and basic groceries because their their rear corner outside a hostile to safe. Keep everyone safe sound. We have donated a lot of meals here in Chicago and in Florida. And we continue to keep doing that and really help. The from my nurses out as much as we can start murders. Yeah it's making me smile just imagining what that moment is like when you bring them that food. What have the reactions been like from healthcare healthcare workers and the community? The feedback has been amazing from healthcare. Workers I mean. We had pictures and videos of of of staffers crying for hot meal for for for the restaurants. We have been serving partners with us in the foundation helped us out with one of our events. We have cough every year day. Just we really want to give back to the restaurants and also the workers so it's really going to win because there's a lot of people tough times right now. We're just trying to outlaw any way we can get. It is so wonderful that you're doing that and I want to ask before you go. Yesterday would have been opening day. So what is your message to all of those baseball fans out there right now. I think it's just to stay strong together. We're going to get it through together. This is tough for everyone. We all want to be playing baseball sports on television. A lot of people WANNA be known to work on a daily basis backstabber teeth so while you're at home take time to invest in yourself and until the routine that makes you happy. It's it's hard to be home. Twenty four seven. But everyone's doing this together so you're not alone. Yeah that's important to remember. Anthony Rizzo a hero on and off the field. Thank you for all you're doing for your community. We appreciate you appreciate it coming up next right here on what you need to know. Dr Jen Ashton answers your questions on coping with the stress of the crisis and stopping the spread plus words of wisdom on keeping faith alive on this Friday. And did you know? It's actually possible to make a love connection in spite of the quarantines and social distancing dating in the pandemic we'll be right back be. Abc News Special Continues. After this listening to ABC News Special Covert Nineteen. What you need to know once again here is. Abc News correspondent. Amy Robot. Welcome back. We're checking back in with Dr Jen Ashton Jen. So many people are concerned. But you know our hearts really go out to those women who are pregnant right now because imagine some of these hospitals now saying you can't have a plus one and there are already so many. What ifs when it comes to giving birth this is just another sign of the times unfortunately exactly so there are two evolving things that I'm really keeping my eye on in terms of obstetrics and pregnancy. And I'm hearing from so many women with questions and concerns one as you said a lot of hospitals in these hotspots New York City and the surrounding areas. Being one of them are restricting. No support people to that woman when she's in Labor this a lot of people are saying actually puts that pregnant woman in more risk as she's delivering. Obviously it's a major lifestyles stressor for the father of the baby or the partner as well as the woman. Hopefully we'll see that relaxed sometime soon but a lot of hospitals just not taking any chances whatsoever about possibly having someone in the hospital that may have covert nineteen may not know it and I know you've delivered over fifteen hundred babies and my correct so you know more than anyone on. Yeah what this means for these women at absolutely and for the fathers or the partners you know it's It's a massive issue. So that's one thing that I'm focusing on. The other thing is. There's brand new data studies that there. May and I want to underscore may be evidence of in utero transmission. We call it. Vertical transmission of women who are sick with cove nineteen. Babies are being tested hours after delivery and found to have antibodies to corona virus. So again it needs more research but there are a couple of new studies out that that suggests that it may be happening. What is the actual incubation period for the virus? Can you develop symptoms after the stipulated period? Well recent study shows that the average incubation period is five point two days of people who eventually test positive ninety seven percent do so by day eleven so fourteen day incubation period and observation period is generally what we're using but recent study just published in. Jama I'm sorry and Lancet infectious diseases. I'm looking at so many journals now. I can't keep them. Straight has found evidence of viral shedding in people who were tested positive as far out as twenty days or more. We don't know that that means there'll still be infectious or contagious but again there's a lot about this virus that we still don't know the assumption is that so much of it is transmitted via close contact people who don't even have symptoms yet if you have a question for Dr Ash and we urge you to send them to her instagram at Dr J. Ashton. We'll check with you in just a bit. Jen and it's faith Friday here at ABC and in times like these keeping your beliefs strong and your spirits high can definitely be challenging so we thought we'd bring in someone who can help shed some light on how we can all keep our faith alive you might remember him from. Prince Harry and Meghan MARKLE's wedding. He is also the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church joining me. Now is the Reverend Bishop. Michael Curry Bishop Curry. Thank you so much for being with. We certainly appreciate it and we need to hear from you today. We know with assemblies. Large gatherings currently prohibited. How are you advising religious leaders to guide their congregations and then the parishioners themselves to keep their faith alive? Wait you know I mean there are a number of things. One of the things I've realized is that while we must have physical distancing. We don't WanNa have social distancing which is to say physically. We shouldn't be within proximity each other six feet or whatever the standards are but socially we need to be in contact with each other and fortunately our technology provides a number of options that we might not have had even twenty years ago and so we're encouraging clergy and church vote have church online space book lives Zoom Instagram US. All the mediums that we have available to us have a worship service online. It doesn't have to be fancy. Just do it Brady. God Reach Scriptures. Preach a sermon. Don't make the servants along but preach a sermon. Do all the things we who in church and then I heard about a church where they were having coffee hour like they do on Sunday morning for example only they were doing it online telling everybody we're your coffee. Make t get a doughnut or whatever and join US long zoo and we'll have coffee our toget- I love it. I love it and you know Bishop. I know you've talked before about the restorative power of love. How do you see that working especially in times like this sometime? We all really need an actual hug. How do you practice love? In this era of physical distancing there are three things Jesus at one point reached into the Hebrew scriptures and told somebody love the Lord. Your God with everything you got love your neighbor as yourself love. God love neighbor. Love yourself one way to do that is asked how can I love God or in a relationship with God today how can I love my neighbor? Somebody else and being in a relationship hill somebody else today. And how can I love myself? If he gets those three and just live with those three ways to be in relationship with God relationship with others be away helping others as well as being in relationship with yourself. Those three create a holistic life that that can help you navigate even in tough on certain in sometimes very difficult task especially in times like these. I would imagine it. I know you like so. Many other leaders are an advocate for those less fortunate and for Social Justice. So talk more. About how your continuing that? In these times in a number of ways for example you can still right members of Congress we can still write or email our leaders with our perspectives on how they can work for the common good. We can still do that and be like we are sort of quarantined as well so believe me. That will get rid so we can do that to advocate for for those. Who Don't have anybody to advocate for them. We can also do it by being in groups and finding ways to do itself safely but to actually serve others. There's a soup kitchen. I'm here in Raleigh North Carolina at Good Shepherd. Church downtown Raleigh. Where they're doing it safely. Normally they have people come in and sitting and eat mainly for the homeless community. But they're doing bag lunches and they're doing it in ways. That are safe in volunteers. Say You can do something. If you can't do that. You can pray somebody you could pick up the telephone encounter somebody if you're not hijack go low tech adult phone. I love cell phone. I love it. I love your enthusiasm. And your positively. It is certainly contagious. Reverend Bishop Michael Curry thank you be well. We really appreciate those words of wisdom. We have much more ahead right here. Love in the time of corona quarantine dating tips for those looking for a way to keep their distance but still find a match special Kobe. Nineteen white new need to know continues after this. You're listening to an ABC news special. Kobe nineteen what you need to know once again here is. Abc News correspondent. Amy Robot. Welcome back just weeks ago. A sitting north of Manhattan had one of the first clusters of Kovic. One thousand nine hundred and some drastic measures were taken to stop the spread there in new Rochelle. A one mile containment zone was set up around an entire community and the National Guard was even called into help deliver meals to those who were stuck in isolation the move has had some promising results and joining us. Now is the mayor of new Rochelle Noam Bramson. Thank you for joining us. Mayor Bramson and I want to start by asking you how things are going because new Rochelle was really the first hotspot in the New York area. Where are you now? Well thank you for having me and I think nor shells. Experience does give us some reason for cautious optimism because we were in earliest hotspot. We also implemented early containment measures intended to limit the spread of the virus and preliminary data suggests that that has been somewhat effective Rate Increase in Rochelle seems to be slowing and new. Rochelle is declining as a percentage of positive cases in our region. So all that is is good news but I want to emphasize the caution. The data can be interpreted in lots of different ways beat municipally aggregated information lags behind the positive reports individuals and we are a couple of days behind the facts on the ground. And we know that even the most optimistic scenario and this is still going to be a long and significant CH- challenge so it's entirely premature to celebrate but we are looking for rays of sunshine in the midst of unsettling experience and it is good to know that new Rochelle is confronted at least the early stage in this challenge in seemingly successful wet. Yeah that's very important distinction and it should be noted. You responded very quickly and very aggressively to the first reported cases in your city. Do you think new Rochelle could be a model for other cities your size? They experience a similar burst of of cases. Yes I think so. Look I want to give credit to Governor Cuomo of New York State? They were in the driver seat. Here they identify your early challenge that we got a new Rochelle and prescribed delimitations that were imposed here. But also keep in mind Just a week. After our containment zone was established all restrictions were overtaken and exceeded by statewide limitations. That were even more restricted. So All New York State is at this point of containment zone and The rest of America is not far behind but because we came. I are leading experience. I think is some indicator other communities can expect I also say that Another promising aspect. What's happened in a Rachelle? Is that in the face of overwhelming pressure. Our social infrastructure has remained strong community groups and nonprofit organizations have risen to the occasion. We had an outpouring voluntarism. We've been able to maintain essential services in the context of a radically changed work environment. So all of that suggests that even though this is hard we will be equal to the test. Then we'll be able to come on the other side with a strong and healthy community and can you talk a little bit about if you have any right now. Any plans to reopen so to speak new Rochelle. And what are you hearing from residents there? Well I think everyone a state and everyone in America is eager to resume some form of normal life living with limitations that would imaginable just a few weeks ago. But we don't have any plans in new Rochelle to go on our own and to relax restrictions that are common to the whole. We think it's a Gordon responsible to take direction from the public authorities at the state level and at the county level. Who have the expertise in our in the best position to give guys so? That's the way nor shells approaching this all right. Well mayor no on Brampton thank you so much for joining us and giving us an update on your community. We appreciate it. We are now to Dr Jen Ashton for answers to your questions that just keep pouring in Stanley. So Dr Jen. We're going to start with the first one. What are some of the best ways? We can cope with the intense stress of this crisis. Oh that's so. That's so important. Amy By the way if anyone has any ideas send them my way. I would like to hear them as well but I think the first thing is while all of our routines have been disrupted. Try to find new routines when you're staying at home and sheltering in place. Try to connect with people use creative ways to do that. Obviously it's heavily technology based we've seen amazing examples of that and I think it's really important even if homebound to do something physical every day I think when our bodies move and feel good we release those endorphins and that can help our mood and our spirit to I could not agree more. I'm getting the kids to do some calisthenics at the very least each and every day and you can see their mood. Change this next question very interesting. I live in Savannah Georgia where we are expecting close to ninety degree temperatures over the next few days. What effect if any will these warmer temperatures have on the spread of Cova? One thousand nine hundred so we don't know because this is a new virus and no one has a crystal ball but other corona viruses and other respiratory viruses do tend to have seasonal variation. And we're starting to see in the southern hemisphere some increases in cases. So it's a good news bad news situation. We may see a drop up here with change in temperature and humidity but then we can expect a second peak when our weather changes again so preparation during that time period. We'll be but bottom line. Is We just don't know what's going to happen as the weather changes now. This is going to be a wait and see moment as those temperatures rise all right if you have a question for Dr Ash and we urge you to send them to her instagram at Dr J. Ashen News special continues after this. You're listening to ABC News Special Kobe. Nineteen what you need to know once again here is. Abc News correspondent. Amy Robot singles hoping to find their perfect match. This year may feel like they've hit a rough patch amid the corona virus pandemic. But your dating life doesn't need to come to a complete halt. Even during a time of social distancing video exchanges are the new frontier and here to tell us what we need to know is founder and CEO of the League dating APP. Amanda Bradford Amanda. Thanks for being with us. And this is kind of counterintuitive because as I ask you to give us an idea but how datings been affected during a time like this. I think you're going to give us a fairly unexpected answer. It is surprising but it is quite busy. Out there We're seeing unprecedented levels of engagement. Both in terms of logging in users that logged in once or twice a week prior to this period are logging in multiple times a day. We're seeing users that used to be called flaky or were ghosting. People are now responding to people at unprecedented levels. We're also seeing people adopt our video features a much higher rate than than February for example. So we're seeing. We're seeing that people are really looking for connection and support during this time and it is showing up in the data for sure. Yeah so video. Exchanges are the new trend in dating. Tell us how they work. And how are people able to continue dating during the time of social distancing? Yes we actually built our dating feature in December but only now has really started to really grow in adoption. We're seeing hundred percent increase. Since last week on video dating properties and what? Those are is Sundays and Wednesdays at nine pm we have all our users show up and Lakshmi matched them on live video dates. These are short dates three minutes. We give each person icebreaker and they're chatting and APP live video and then afterwards if they like each other they can choose to continue and have a video date in the APP for up to an hour or so and so we kind of liking it to video cocktail party. If you will for anyone who's hearing you and ready to take the plunge of tips for video dating and your first one is look. I ate great. Yes it's also surprising that you should wear your Pajama bottoms. On your first date. Even though you can really address like you would for a regular date. I think both whether hair head to toe so whether it's to kind of create more confidence in yourself but also to show the other person that hey I'm willing to bet pants on for you because joke about it and also we know that is everything. So you WanNa have great lighting as well. Yes no fluorescent lighting. If you can get kind of low wattage dim light. That's always a little bit more. Flattering and another thing. We say is try to share an experience during that date. So whether it's you know playing words with friends whether it's watching a youtube video and pushing start at the same time we've had users even go to instagram. Live concert and kind of pretend like going to a concert. Each other over over facetime so really treat it like you would a real date and I think even though this is a really tough time in a scary time for everyone. It's actually a really unique time to get to know someone on an emotional level and and I think that's That's important when you're dating. Look at the bright side of it I guess now I see a reality show out of this one you know you date in the pandemic on video and then when this is all over you can finally meet in person so very some couples. We do have some couples that are on my week. Four or five of not having seen each other yet but are falling in love so I told them will definitely want to follow up with them and see how it goes in the real world. Yeah we will check in with you on that. Amanda Bradford. Thanks so much for joining us. Thanks for having me. That's our program for today. I mainly Rohbock. Thanks for listening. Abc News Honored Winner of four and Edward R murrow awards. Abc News. America's number. One News. Choice okay so in the New York. Times tells you one of the Eighth News. Podcast worth listening to well you to say thank you so go on start smart we start here the ABC News daily podcast. Take us with you. Listen to us now. Free on apple podcasts.

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Wednesday, March 25, 2020

COVID-19: What You Need to Know

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Wednesday, March 25, 2020

"It is an ABC news special. Kobe nineteen what you need to know from. Abc News headquarters here is correspondent. Aaron Katersky the number of Corona virus cases in New York has soared to more than thirty thousand. It is by far the hardest hit state in the country. More people have needed to go to the hospital because of the virus than predicted but today governor Andrew Cuomo soft progress. He said density reduction measures seem to be working to these people say boy. These are burdensome requirements social distancing no restaurants no non essential workers yes burdensome by the way they are effective and unnecessary and the evidence suggests at this point that they have slowed hospitalizations. And this is everything everything because Cuomo said eventually the state could need one hundred forty thousand hospital beds when it only has fifty three thousand currently available Dr del Tagore from the ABC News Medical Unit is here with us. Now so more people have had to go to the hospital because of the virus than I predicted but as Cuomo says the rate of hospitalization seems to be coming down yet Erin. It's really interesting. Governor Cuomo brings up a really good point that reminds us of two things one that social isolation staying home staying away and following all the strict guidelines that we've been putting in place especially here in New York as the epicenter that that is working But the hospitalization bit it's also part of the fact that we know that most people will have mild cases and can probably stay out of hospitals. I think people listening to what's out there from scientists and researchers is really starting to have an impact. Cuomo seemed to say the same thing that this is evidence that burdensome though they may be keeping six feet apart and keeping everybody out of work and kids out of school. This stuff is making a difference definitely and I think it's also a good reason and good Point that highlights that we should continue doing. What's working and not giving up on? What we know is starting to make a change. Don't want to take your foot off the brake just yet. There are a couple of statistics that have stood out over the last couple of days particularly here in New York City. The death rate among men is sixty two percent and that's a far more than it is among women. Do we know anything more about why men seem to have a higher mortality rate associated with Corona Virus? So our best guesses and our best predictions have a lot to do with the things that put men at risk and other situations. We know that men in general smoke more than women do Globally men have smoke about forty percent and women about nine percent. Now that doesn't mean that there's a direct correlation of course we know that this is primarily respiratory illness affecting the lungs and the pneumonia is one of the primary reasons for mortality. So this just kind of part of our early understanding in New York City forty. Six percent of cases are aged eighteen to forty four and we keep hearing that the most serious cases involve older people people with underlying conditions. But this shows that the virus is hitting younger people. Why is that that's right and it's a good? Reminder helps US emphasize that we're all vulnerable to this everyone is being affected or has the potential of being exposed including the youth. Now the youth have never thought to be Protected from this virus before we were saying that they were carriers or to matic and it was the elderly. But now we're seeing more and more that the user vulnerable to the data that came out of the CDC was from the first twenty five hundred cases. So we can argue that they might be the most severe cases that includes youth middle age and the elderly and the youth. You know they have other vulnerabilities might be in part because of an attitude or a belief that they are not at risk and so putting themselves in situations whether expose multiple times we saw those images of spring breakers all of those generation X. Z. and everyone Who was still out there. When we were warning people not to be so it could be that. They're exposed over and over and it could also be that they have the same underlying chronic conditions that put other people at risk. What about vaping or smoking? Yeah that's That's a big problem. So the youth actually vape in much higher numbers than than other age groups making them much potentially much more vulnerable. There are studies that are coming out that lucid eight the vaping can put your lung and obviously therefore respiratory conditions at a higher threshold and so with us being more vulnerable to all the things out there that make people wanNA vape. They're probably vaping more. They're at home. They're stressed They have histories of vaping that their families might not know about so that might them more vulnerable to severe infection. Ask You about one more thing before we let you go. Duck attack board that there are some reports doctors in New York. Hospitals are giving patients who have covert nineteen Rather high doses of Vitamin C. Is there any sign that that is actually effective? So there's no current evidence that vitamin C. and massive doses is preventive or curative. This isn't over the counter vitamin C. That you can pop or some gummy vitamins that you can chew. This is IV vitamin C. Given in large doses to patients who are really sick these patients are septic and the state of Sepsis when your body is breaking down and you have a high infection in your system actually depletes vitamin C where can deplete vitamin C. Especially as we're seeing in covert nineteen cases so that vitamin C might just be depleting. You know what your your body needs and not necessarily adding it. We also have to remember that. The vitamin C. isn't given by itself. It's being given with some of this compassionate care cocktails that we hear about things like hydroxy chloroquine zithromax in or other various biologics and blood thinners. So it's not done alone so we shouldn't jump to any conclusions quite yet. So everyone's quarantined cocktail of vodka. And emergency is not quite the preventative thing. Anybody may have hoped might help them get through some of the stress but not cove in nineteen itself doctor tug for thanks so much. Thank you so much for having me. Dr Della Maga poor with the ABC News Medical Unit. We're going to shift now to California and bring in. Abc's Alec Stone. Because Alex the governor has cast doubt on any notion of getting his state reopened by Easter a timeframe that has been suggested by president trump at the White House. Well that's exactly right. Governor News from here Erin is saying he sees no way that this is going to be over in the next couple of weeks in potentially even the next couple of months that he believes that we will continue this upward. Climb for about the next six to eight weeks and then won't really get over it for about twelve weeks. He says that he understands or his desire in this country to get things open again but he says it's just not realistic that looking at the numbers of folks who are sick the numbers who are dying here in California going up as they are in other areas of the country and he says the next couple of weeks this being over. He sees no way that that's going to happen. And in fact the the state seems to be taking steps to enforce the rules about social distancing and keeping essential businesses closed absolutely. The problem is here in L. A. There are some businesses that are saying no that they're not going to close at telling the the mayor and the governor. You don't have the authority to to do this. Or they feel that they are essential gun stores worst and open the sheriff here in. La County ordered that they shut down. There were long lines of people to get guns ammo now. The the Sheriff said okay. We're going to rule that the gun stores are essential. You can stay open. They're trying to prevent the panic buying a gun stores as they were shutting them down but there are many other stores and restaurants. That are not adhering to this day at home rule and now the mayor here in l. a. He says the LAPD is going to be enforcing they will make arrests. They will write tickets. There will be fines. Prosecutors are getting involved and now they're going to send the Department of Water and power in to shut off the water and power to businesses at aren't shutting down. This is the mayor. Saying it's time that everybody listen to you. Know who you are. You need to stop it. This is your chance to step up and to shut it down because if you don't we will shut you down. Shot you down. And he says if we don't arrest you if we don't find you without you knowing the Department of Water and power is gonNA come out and nothing will come out of that tap. Your lights won't come on. He says that will shut you down. Abc's Alec Stone with us from Los Angeles. They are serious there and elsewhere about these rules as evidenced by the drop in the hospitalization rate here in New York. There is some evidence that all of these burdensome rules do seem to be having an effect. Alex thank you. You got it. Thanks and coming up Amy Roebuck sits with ABC News chief. Medical correspondent Dr Jennifer Ashton to answer more of your questions about the outbreak of covert nineteen. I'm Aaron Katersky. You're listening to ABC News Special Report. You're listening to ABC News Special. Kobe nineteen what you need to know here. He's EBC News correspondent any robot. New York's metropolitan area is now considered a high risk area in the corona virus pandemic. Federal officials are now asking anyone traveling from there to self isolate for fourteen days and the governor of Louisiana expressing concern. His State may be on track to become the country's new episodes joining us now is ABC chief. Medical correspondent. Dr Jen Ashton who is reporting from home on self quarantine. Jen there are new reports right now that some doctors in New York hospitals are giving massive doses of vitamin C to help their patients who have been nineteen. What's The science behind this? This is really interesting amy. It's not the first time that we've heard about a high dose vitamin C used in critically. Ill patients there's actually a decent amount of literature on it in the medical literature for critically ill patients however for Kovic Nineteen It definitely is not ready for primetime. It is generally a low risk treatment. It's a water soluble vitamin But right now it's hard to tell whether there's any major benefit and again right now. This is for treatment of critically ill patients with covert nineteen not for prevention. All right we are going to be turning to you throughout the broadcast for answers to many people's questions so stay with us but in the meantime we're GONNA turn out. Abc's Rachel Scott who was in Washington with the latest headlines For us. Prince Charles has tested positive. For the Corona virus royal officials say the Prince of Wales had been displaying mild symptoms and is now self isolating Scotland. They say his wife does not have the illness and back here at home. One of the nation's top commercial labs is now ramping up code nineteen testing quest diagnostics announcing it's now able to run twenty five thousand test today at three labs across the country with plans for nearly a dozen labs by the end of the week and now to the warning from the Department of Justice telling prosecutors to consider terrorism charges against those who threaten others with the spread of the corona virus and also announcing a crackdown on hoarding and price gouging and finally the new look for the nation's grocery stores word from Walmart and publics that they will be setting up see-through barriers between cashiers and customers those plexiglass guards to be installed over the next couple of weeks. Amy Really trying to take that next. Step to keep everybody safe. Yeah it makes sense. I've already started to see that in some of my grocery stores that I've been Attending so very good news indeed Rachel thanks for being with us. As the number of corona virus cases continued to rise around the country there are certain areas with large numbers of cases of growing concern and now Louisiana has more cases per capita than every other state except for New York and Washington Governor John Bel Edwards receiving a major disaster declaration and here via facetime is the director of the New Orleans Public Health Department. Dr Jennifer AVEC No. Thanks for being with us. Dr Of Ignoring Orleans parish has the sixth highest rate of known corona virus cases of any county in the US. Do you know why well I think there's a lot of reasons? I don't know that we'll ever know why because it's multifactorial light we're an urban area. We are not as dense as New York but we know that density of crowds spreads disease. We are social people. We are out all the time as you know we have festivals. We have celebrations. We have parades. And so we're more likely in February to be in close contact with one another than other places and we're also intergenerational. There is a lot of family connectedness here and a lot of people living under one roof and then finally we have ramped up our testing significantly so a lot of the increase that we're seeing is due to being able to perform a lot were tests in a short period of time compared to other states right and we know the state and local governments there have incurred. This is a huge number more than sixty five point. Six million dollars in costs related to the Corona Virus Louisiana. So what needs to happen next for your area? Well we're really encouraged by the president Accepting our governors request to declare a disaster as. He's done another states. That is GONNA help tremendously in getting those resources that we need like everywhere else. Like New York City like Los Angeles like Seattle like everywhere else in between we need equipment. We need ventilators. We need personal protective equipment. We need the things that every community in America struggling to get and so We really appreciate having these extra resources. We have been on this working for weeks and weeks but this is going to really benefit our healthcare workers and our community and speaking to that. Do you feel like at this point. New Orleans has been a part of the national discussion or have been overlooked until now. Because certainly you're making headlines Today. Well you know it's not about being first and it's not about being worst. It's about understanding the magnitude and advocating our congressional delegation. Certainly hasn't been quiet. They have been advocating for us day. One we are fortunate. You know this is not our first crisis. This is not our first disaster. We are battle-tested. We have great relationships with the governor's office with the State and have been working together on this for weeks. Advocating we knew what we were going to need and started asking early so whether we're getting media coverage of that of that or not we're always been out front trying to get what we needed. Now you certainly make a very good point. New Orleans knows how in the state of Louisiana knows how to rise up Dr Jennifer. No thanks for being with us today. Thank you so much Los Angeles Mayor Eric. Course that he says his city is six to twelve days away from seeing the same kinds of covert nineteen. Numbers is here in New York City and mayor. Eric joins us now. With more on the uptick in cases there mayor. Thanks for being with us. And as you're sitting now continues to fight the spread of this virus. What would you say is your biggest challenge right now? I think our biggest challenge is what we're all facing making sure that we have testing so that we know exactly how widespread this is getting equipment and people into our hospitals and caring for those folks that are on the front lines and also of course just making sure that we know indeed that people are all staying at home. But we're seeing good data coming forward. The people actually are listening. I know the exceptions. Get on the news. The people who crowded the beach this weekend or when folks all hike on the same path but by and large. We've seen extreme adherence to this which is a great sign. Those empty streets are a little bit haunting. But they're also very much warming and reaffirming to us that this is working. Yeah unfortunately that is what we need to see right now. also unfortunate a teenager from La County is one of the latest victims to die from Cova. One thousand nine hundred so this is an opportunity for you to send a message to young people in your city absolutely this is a virus and ultimately than an affliction that will take anyone. It doesn't matter whether you're young. It doesn't matter whether you're senior whether you have pre existing conditions or not we know there's greater vulnerability for some people but there's the potential for anyone to lose their life so my plea to my city has been very strong. You can be a first responder you can save a life but you're selfishness can also take life of somebody that you love a neighbor apparent or grandparent. So please please please make sure that during this time you were adhering one hundred percent to are stay at home safer at home order and we think that word is getting out especially with a lot of influencers and people who young people up to really get that message out and that is important when they hear their peers who they look up to say. Stay at home not only just for your own protection but for others and unfortunately steph. I'm sure as a wakeup call too. Many young people as well now we heard from president trump. Who says he would like. He wants the economy back open by Easter so as he says the churches can be packed. Is that a reality for loss endless and I just like your reaction to what president trump has asked for. It won't be reality here in Los Angeles and as much as I'd love to share his hope and optimism. I don't WanNa crush people's spirits either. We're asking a lot of people and for me. I keep listening to the public health professionals the science and the data and looking at what happened around the world. There is no scenario here in which we aren't in this scene at least for a couple of months in Los Angeles and we really have to steel ourselves for that ready ourselves for that and focused on helping those that are the least and lost. Whether it's our our homeless folks or folks that are out of work now to get them food to get them. The cash payments Luckily Stimulus. Bill will now bring but also to make sure that all of us are lending a hand and I think people at the beginning of this thought it would be chaos and unrest. Crime is down. Generosity is a adherence is almost universal and so I really tell people these are the rays of light through these dark clouds. But don't expect to be back to normal in just a couple of weeks and this is truly the new normal but thank you for those rays of hope. We can all use them mayor. Eric Garcetti so much for joining us and stay. Well you've been an amazing voice. Thanks so much. Thanks up next on what you need to know the crushing disappointment for Olympic athletes. Now that the two thousand twenty games have been postponed. Many were training their entire lives for this moment. Soccer star Carli. Lloyd is here next news. Special Copay nineteen what you need to know continues after this. You're listening to an ABC News. Special Kobe nineteen one. You need to know once again here is ABC. News correspondent. Amy Robot. Welcome back we learned Tuesday morning. The two thousand twenty Tokyo Summer Olympics officially been postponed due to the cove in nineteen outbreak. And that means a lot of changes for Olympic athletes including US women's soccer star and two time. Gold medalist Carli Lloyd. Twenty twenty would have been carly's fourth time in the Olympic Games and with turning thirty eight in July potentially her last but she's putting off retirement for a chance to take home a third gold medal and Carly as joining us via skype. To tell us more and Carl I I just WanNa get your reaction when you heard that. The Olympics were officially postponed to twenty twenty one. Yeah I mean some crazy times going on. I think obviously Olympics is is every four years and so many athletes Spend their lives training and ready for this moment. So this is a this is a big deal for it to be postponed. I throws a wrench in many people's training schedule. And obviously rescheduling of that. But I'm just glad that it's not entirely cancelled and we will be all able to compete in it But yet it's crazy but I think it's definitely the right thing to do and You know midst all this Unprecedented pandemic going on and carly. You are a two time world player of the year a two-time World Cup champion. The only player to school the winning goal in two Olympics and on top of that all. You've been playing in the national team for fifteen years. I said you were not going to retire so I'm just but I'm just curious. Is there any question in your mind? You running through any scenarios about not continuing on for a sixteenth year to compete in Tokyo. No it's you know it's crazy. It's been an amazing journey. I would've never predicted any of this You know I've had the time of my life Training competing playing with my teammates It's been it's been a wild ride and while we were all looking forward to competing this summer I'm kind of finding a little bit of a silver lining in it. You know it's more time to prepare more time to get myself fit stronger Become better on the fields. And I think it's GonNa give me a another year or two to really leave it all out on the field. I wasn't sure what I was. GonNa do But another year sounds sounds pretty good so just have to keep grinding away and now you know what a great way to look at it because now you do have an extra year to prepare What are you and teammates talking about doing? In this year to prepare for the games to be extra ready while there's going to have to be some scheduling changes. I know the schedule was in place. getting ready to to compete. We had a couple of sendoff games coming up. Obviously are April Games were cancelled So we don't really have anything on this the schedule until June We don't know what's going to happen with this pandemic. Hopefully things start to slow down and everybody goes back to normal But we all are competing in our. Nwf Leagues The course of the summer and into the fall. So we'll have that and yeah I mean we're just GonNa have to Kinda You know take take each day as it comes and figure it out. But it doesn't throw a huge wrench into our schedule and training. We just get more time and it's been a good mental recharge For Myself and I'm sure all my teammates stay well. Thank you for being with us. Karl Lloyd we appreciate it. We're going to turn again now to Dr Jen Ashton here for more answers to your corona virus questions of gender. We're going to start with the first one. Is there any correlation between blood type? And whether or not you get the virus or how sick you? That's a really interesting question. There was a limited study done very early on in this outbreak. That showed that people who had type. A blood were significantly at greater risk of getting sick with Kovic nineteen then people who had type O blood who were less likely now. It definitely needs more research. It hasn't been peer reviewed but if there is any truth to it it does have implications for healthcare workers. It's not really for the public. But in terms of stratified risk of healthcare workers. It may be useful but really inconclusive. Right now all right our second question. This is a good one does. The virus migrate once. It's on the skin. The warning is to keep your hands away from your nose. Mouth is but what if you touch your cheek or your forehead so the virus doesn't crawl okay like like some parasites do but again. Let's say it's on your cheek and you just brush your hand over your cheek and then two seconds later you touch your eye or your nose or your mouth. That's how you can get infected so again the contact transmission. The handwashing is really really important. You know once it's on your face it's easy to move it to a place where it could then be virulent all right. Here's our third question. Exact does the latest pneumonia vaccination for seniors help with symptoms. Well that Numa vaccine which is for PNEUMOCOCCAL. Pneumonia is really important for people over the age of sixty five however that does not protect you against this novel Corona Virus. What it may do is lower. Your risk of getting pneumonia from multiple pathogens. Remember people who go to the hospital sick with pneumonia. They can have more than one type of pneumonia. We hear that with the flu. You can have a viral pneumonia then with a superimposed bacterial pneumonia so not a direct protection but still important nevertheless engine. We've been talking over the past few days about the nationwide blood shortage and encouraging people. But it's still safe to donate but this next question is interesting. Are People giving blood? They ask required to have a cove nineteen tests and await those results before donating. They're not but the American Red Cross is taking really really aggressive additional steps right now in the setting of the pandemic so they are checking people's temperatures there's no evidence that this covert nineteen or novel. Corona virus can be transmitted via blood. But they're taking a lot of extra precautions and we desperately need more blood donation so people if they're interested can go online see. What testing center is near them and register online? All right. That is great advice now. I was just talking about this because this time of year. So many of us have allergies so our next question is and I get them every year seasonally and right about this time of year so question. Our next question is where we live. Pollen and tree. Mold allergies are in full swing. How can you tell if sneezing? Coughing and sore throat are just allergies versus a case of cove in nineteen. The first thing is amy. No one knows you better than you so if something feels bizarre to you that's when your radar index of suspicion should go up. You should start paying attention. Maybe a little more closely. The other thing is that Kovic nineteen really has such a massive range of symptoms. Many people have such mild symptoms. They may have no symptoms so they don't know they're infected. The classic ones are easy to spot. Fever COUGH FATIGUE. Some chest pain if it's severe in terms of respiratory issues but the other common colder allergy like symptoms. People can have those too and that's why all circles back testing. We need to be able to test so many people so we can get a grip because remember. You can have two things at the same time. You have allergies and you can have corona virus. All Right Dr Jen as always thank you so much. And if you have your questions for Dr Ashton you can send them to her instagram. At Dr J. Ashton. We have much more ahead as we continue on what you need to know some help navigating your technical devices to keep that virtual connections strong and the surprising new ways. We are keeping our pets safe. Driving Vet visits for back in a moment you're listening to an ABC news special. Kobe nineteen one. You need to know once again here is ABC. News correspondent Amy Robot and welcome back with the majority of Americans working from home during the corona virus pandemic. Our devices are all being put to the test whether by laptop or cellphone both need to be up to date in order for you to successfully work from home. Stephanie Humphry is here to help us navigate our devices during this critical time. Instead I know you've worked remotely. So what are some of the tips? You have for video conferences. Which are so popular right now. Yeah so videoconferences. Top three things. Test your equipment I so you WanNa make sure that your mic and your speakers are working. You also want to familiarize yourself with whatever software your company is using so that you know how to use it That's the first thing. Headphones are key. You really want as clean as audio as you can get and then you yourself. If you're not speaking I know is going to be tough these days to maybe find a quiet place in your house so if that's not the case make sure you're just muting yourself when you're not speaking also if you don't need the video turn the video off. We saw that viral video this week of a woman who unfortunately took her phone into the restroom. So you WANNA make sure that we're not happy situations like that. You want to make sure you're on Wi fi if possible if you're on your smartphone though make sure you're somewhere that you're getting a really strong sell signal and finally make sure you're looking at the camera. A lot of people tend to look at the screen when video conferencing instead of the camera and it makes a difference. You WanNa keep that connection with your teammates via video conference as well. You mentioned Wi fi. Obviously it's important when you're working from home so any tips on how to get the best connection especially when a lot of people are on Wi fi in your home at one time. Yeah yeah well in my be as simple as moving your router. You don't want to have your router next to any large metal objects in your home and you don't want to have it next to any appliances that emit electromagnetic signals. So you really don't want your router right next to your television which is where a lot of people keep it or right next to that place where everybody charges their phones or right next to a heater or anything like that so maybe just moving the router to a different place in the house might help with that. You can also make sure that the firmware is updated. So you'll need to go to the website of your Internet service provider and log in there to make sure you're using the most up-to-date firmware you also could change the channel on the router or the frequency. You can do that on the website of your Internet service provider as well or you can invest in boosters repeaters extender. They all kind of do the same thing which is to amplify the signal around your home. If you have any dead spots or you can just really gotTa Redo your network altogether and create a Mesh Network. That will sort of replace your router and cover every area of your home and one simple thing that you can do is make sure you have a strong password. Because there could be some folks next door or a couple of doors down better stealing your Wifi and weakening that signal as well. Yeah that's a good point especially in apartment buildings now. I love this next hip. Because we're all used to communicating with each other or co workers face to face. Sometimes things get lost in translation. When you're doing this remotely so give us some of the rules. Remote communication between co workers will think about what you need to communicate. If it's something that is company sensitive or maybe a little bit. Negative may not necessarily want to send that via email. You WanNa pick up the phone and have a call around at because depending on whether or not you've actually logged into your works network or something like that. Your your security might be compromised. So you want to make sure that you're not having any conversations over your own wife. I might get compromised. Also be respectful of others time. You know we're home everybody's home now. You know people are home so you may tend to want to communicate with them whenever you get ready and maybe it might be outside of office hours so you want to be respectful of other people's time also don't want to inundate your co workers with messages and then it might be a good idea to if you don't already have them if your company doesn't already have them suggest that you establish some rules of communication. I know this whole thing Working from home as new for a lot of people so you may not be familiar with what the company goes are. There may not be any place that That worked for the for the new normal that we're dealing with right now all right. These are all great great. Tip Stephanie. Humphry thank you so much for being with us today all right. We're checking in now with Dr Jen Ashton Dr John. A lot of people still asking so many questions about testing who should get tested. How and where our tests available? So when you talk about testing. Amy We have to remember. There's two big components the need to test as many people as possible including those who don't have symptoms. That's kind of the holy grail. Because that's how we get a real handle on. How Communist is in our society in our country. We're not there yet. That's going to involve some blood testing that's going to involve finger pricks as we called point of care. Testing we can get results in fifteen minutes and the gold standard. Which is the SWAB. Which can take days right now. So that part of it is test as many people as we can. The other part is that right now especially in hot spot areas if you have mild symptoms and you go to get a test number one you use valuable resources like p. p. e. and exposed healthcare workers to risk. And if you don't have corona virus you put yourself at risk because by definition the people who are showing up to get tested are generally those with symptoms. So we've really need to reconcile these two areas and we need to do it quickly. All right Dr Jen. You'll be right back answering more questions. Stay with us. You're listening to an ABC news special. Kobe nineteen what you need to know. Once again here is. Abc News correspondent robot amid the corona virus. Pandemic we're taking every precaution to keep ourselves and our loved one safe but many people are left wondering how to keep our furry friends healthy too. Well introducing drive through vet clinics here to update us on that as veterinarian and founder of Layton's villa veterinary practice doctor. Clear Godwin Dr Godwin. Thanks for being with us. You are using a drive through technique for vet visits so. Tell us how it works. We've instituted this policy where we have the clients when they make an appointment. Go on our website and fill out a form on and submitted online that talks about what exactly they want done during the appointment time and we can get that and review before they even get here and when they come for the appointment they use their cell phones to call us or even Texas and say he and here and so we respond. Tax Are With the phone call and say okay. We'll be out in the minute. And one of the technicians goes out and say it's a dog though out and meet them on the walkway where the transfer of the pet is accomplished with technician. Slipping on the Bar. Leashes on the honor moving the leash from the dog and then the technician brings his dog into the exam room and where the doctor is saying. Though we start with vitals in review of what needs to be done during the visit and then get the phone. Going off on speakerphone in the exam. So that the client can be there with this virtue. Pretty remarkable and I know a lot of people are very happy that they can do all of that make sure their pets are safe and also have continued good health as well. So thank you for all you're doing. We appreciate it all right. We're checking in now with Dr Jen Ashton for her final thoughts today. Amy just answering so many questions on twitter and instagram today. I'm looking at three things. One in terms of the science we're learning more and more about the clinical data and the behavior of this virus. How PEOPLE PRESENT? How many more cases there are we know that over one hundred thousand people officially probably way more than that have recovered. So that's been important. We talked a little bit before about this symptom. Atallah g there is such a broad range of symptoms. Everyone is nervous but again the majority of people who are infected with Kovic nineteen get better on their own. Just if you are sick isolate and stay at home and then lastly the emotional part of that. I think this is a massive opportunity to remember that just because things don't look the same right now. This is a temporary situation. Everyone's having feelings of uncertainty and anxiety and fear but remember according to psychologists feelings are not facts even though we're socially distance we still want to connect with each other and help each other through this and I think we have to focus on the good news that there are clinical trials going on and there will be more testing and we will get through it and we will get through it together. All right Dr Jen. Thank you so much for your insights. We appreciate it. That's our program for today. I made me Rohbock. Thanks for listening. Abc News Honored Winner. All four and Edward R murrow awards. Abc News America's number. One News choice you see headlines. Across your screen all day. But you're busy. What do you need to know? What's actually shaping your world. I'm Brad Milkey from ABC News. And every morning we start here. 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