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Who Will Bounce Back in 2020? (03/31 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Who Will Bounce Back in 2020? (03/31 Fantasy Football Podcast)

"This is fantasy football today from CBS. Sports got email us at fantasy football at CBS. I DOT COM it's time to dominate your fantasy. League of of Chaney Ardor intro number two for fantasy football today on Tuesday I did one just a few minutes ago and we all agree that it was just bad. It just sucked so here we go. It showed number two today. Bounced back candidates. And you out there. You've no idea what into a number one satellite but it was really bad but right now isn't as bad as central number two. Okay all right so let's focus instead. Yeah go ahead you want. Number one was number two. But this one's definitely better now. This was better as long as you acknowledge how bad it is. It's kind of like laughing at your own bad joke. Then everything's fine. We're going to tell you why a running back was really bad last year on the one of the worst running teams in the. Nfl is going to bounce back. We're going to tell you why. The oldest oldest quarterback in football one of those players and football is going to bounce back. We're GONNA tell you why to aging wide receivers are going to bounce back. See how good of an intro. This is people were like who who is he. Talking about there glued to the podcast and Ben Ben Gretchen here. We haven't talked to Ben Gretchen. A little while. It's up Benny. And what's up? I WANNA know who the to I. Guess my receivers are the two agent wants? But I think we'll maybe you and some of our listeners will be interested to learn. They're not that old compared to Dave's old receiver. I think they're only a year and two years older than days older. So you're you're calling them old a little premature. I think I think as long as we stay away from old running backs we'll be just fine seam receivers over the age of thirty perform. Well before I yeah I. I've been making a case for one of Ben's eight. I think call them aging. I don't know if I call them old. I don't maybe I call them both. Everyone Aging Santa Clara philosophically. Speaking heat threat. I don't feel like I'm aging. Feel like you know. I'm older than all of these. All these receivers but these days we are all aging atom boy feels. It feels like I've been quarantined for months and it's only been a few weeks so I wait a minute. Wait a minute you always work from home. It's not changed for you drive to the office like heat ads and like I have. It's not just that it's I mean I really WanNa go to the grocery store. I dying. Go to the grocery store. Go now about going about leaving do that. You can be safe at your grocery store. It's okay you can do it not as safe as as if you're in your house Yesterday true yesterday I tried chef Boyardee for the first time I ever. You probably hate. It was horrible Holy Ghost. It's for kids. Yeah kids with bad taste okay. Injuries news notes. There are none. So let's promote something real quick whereas Acre Patrick. Just got cut is the does that count as injury interesting. I feel like he actually was was good last year. I feel like I was A. Hey Yeah you know why Yes with the bengals. I remember the stat. They were much much worse against wide receivers after his injury. So remember that all right so anyway prospect profiles this week. We're starting on Thursday. Possibly Friday by the way breaking news show might be on Friday with quarterbacks considering continuing next week with running backs we're going to give you everything you need to know about the top tier prospects and the draft traits to play the best. Fantasy fits and of course you can listen on your smart speaker. Just say play fantasy football today Alexa wherever you have to do it. Hey Alexa play in whatever. Just tell your smart speaker to play fantasy football today and we will see you in home bounce back. Candidates also have a big list of bounceback cads from the listeners. But let's start with Heath's I here's what we're GONNA do. I'm GonNa say I'm going to say their names. And then Dave and Ben are going to say if they agree or disagree and then he's going to explain his thoughts Levian Bell and Juju Smith Schuster then and Dave. Do you think Levy Mbelwa Juju Smith. Schuster are going to bounce back in two thousand twenty. Yes I would have picked Juju if he had already picked him. I will not draft Levy on Ballerini league this year. Oh I took Lebanon Bell in round four of the non PR mock draft. We did so. I don't know if I I might consider him in round three. Npr Yeah he was number twenty one a non PR number sixteen NPR. But Le Vian Bell was twelfth carries last year and no running back in the top twenty and carries had fewer rushing touchdowns. I love EON bell. He had three all right. He make the case. Yeah I mean I think Juju is like the free space when someone writes bounceback article and I. There's no explanation needed. He didn't have a quarterback. He was hurt. He's going to be much better than he was last year even if he's not the number one wide receiver like. I may have thought that he could have been last year. So that's an easy Levian Bill I. It's interesting because I'm still pretty much of the mindset especially at running back of volume over everything and so far the jets have not done anything to make me think that play bells going to get less work than he did yes. He was terribly inefficient on an awful jets team with an abysmal offensive line. I anticipate the offensive line will be somewhat better. Maybe not good. Probably not good still bad but better than it was last year. I have very hard time envisioning. How Levy on bells going to be worse than three point two yards per carry. Maybe he's only three point five yards per carry. I don't think he's going to score a touchdown every seventy-five touches I would anticipate. That's closer to once every thirty five or forty touches and so if pieced I I have a very hard time seeing how Levian Bell is anything but a good pick in the fourth round unless he gets hurt. I just totally if you think he's going to be worse than worth a fourth round. Pick than you at this point and it could change in the draft But at this point you just think he's going to get hurt because we saw as bad as he could possibly be last year with three hundred touches and it was like the number sixteen running back right. Npdor that's you get number sixteen running back and PR over fifteen games not even over sixteen in the fourth round. And you did a very good thing that I don't know about that. 'cause let's talk about. Dave like let me get because you said you agree but you get the number sixteen running back. He's basically just accumulating stats. He's not really a fantasy football but he's not. He's not giving you good production on a week to week basis. You know. He's not really winning you weeks. He's just like that's the kind of player you should not have to use one of your first four picks in my I would not anticipate that Levy. I'm bill if he plays sixty. I can pull up the game because now he's he had good weeks last. Yeah he did. He's going to have good weeks this year. Like it's it's not that he's just not helping you. He's definitely helped Fantasy managers win some leagues or some weeks last year. Firstly week sworn into he accumulated his way to twenty three and twenty. Pr Points but those were two best games of the year. I would contend that the offensive line was a huge problem for the second straight year. They were ranked thirty first in pass blocking by pro football focus and we go back and forth with pf but that line stunk. They've added Connor McGovern. They're going to draft at least one other guy to that line and I'm hoping they actually find a way to at the. They added a lot of death already. The guys that they've added via free agency aren't necessarily like Amazing Offensive Lineman but their upgrades over the pile that they had tried to make lanes for Lebanon last year and remember. Lebanon is a patient runner. He needs a little extra time in those blockers need to really find gaps for him to choose the right lane to go through and once he goes through that lane suming. It's there he he does. Well he can pop off. I think he can be better than sixteenth overall NPR. But that's yeah that's not a case for drafting him in the fourth round. I mean it like I at least not for me I guess it. Kinda COMES DOWN TO A STRATEGY PERSPECTIVE. But just beating your. Adp doesn't make someone a good Necessarily like that's one of your top five building blocks for your team. You would hope that. That player has the potential to be a top five player at his position and can help you win your league. Not just be a small win and I talked about this before the show you philosophically like when I make draft picks especially early. I want Guys that could be big wins or small losses and enslaving belt Amisi. They're going to be a small win as a draft. Pick or big loss. Because I do think there is not just injury in my opinion. I do think there's some possibility that if he's as bad as he was again he already has issues without him gazing. I'm gays has issues with him. He didn't sign him. He'd want them to sign him Will he lose touches? If I mean will it go through a whole nother season giving him three hundred touches if he's inefficient again and I think that's a possibility out of his agent? They might just decide that he's kind of washed. It could be a David Johnson situation from twenty nineteen where they decide to to move on from him so at some point during the season. I don't think they're just GONNA pump three hundred touches in dame again and and hope that his you know his in efficiency improves and to your point. They added a bunch alignment but I think the consensus is a lot of these guys. Were like overpays and we're not continue. You mentioned that. But not not huge upgrades. We already know that Adam. Gays offense held back a ton of players in Miami that went on to now be very good and the his offense was disappointing. Last year I don't know what the upside is for his offense in two thousand twenty with the jets. I like I have a really hard time seeing lady on bell being a smash pick so to me like best case scenario. He's a small win over where you drafted. Yeah best case scenario is. He's a functional number. Two fantasy running back for you. I don't agree with that at all. Like I don't know why we would think that a guy that was twelve carries and had seventy eight targets and fifteen games couldn't couldn't be a number one running back. I think the expectations should be. He's going to be a top twelve. Pr Back unless he gets the same time I can. I can name off twelve running backs. I'd much rather have than than love and the whole idea of drafting Lebanon around four is that he's kind of near the end of the the leftover running backs that have a chance to maybe even make the top twelve but I'm not drafting him to be a top twelve running back he won't he won't be in there in the fourth round. Mvp and I would take him in the third late third round in PR and he might not get there. There might be somebody like you in every league. That remembers the good of Levian Bell from the the good old times of two thousand seventeen and before but I I can't i. I can't justify taking him in round two at any cost round three maybe toward the end. I know I've got another pick coming around four. That's when I'll consider levy on bell but at make no mistake. I don't have high expectations for him. He I think he can be good. I think he'd be better than what he was last year. But I don't think he can be top twelve top-ten NPR. I've got them right. That's my expectation. I think I keep could I? Maybe doesn't get back to four yards per carry but I we should expect no worse than like three point six. If you're projecting. How many plays could he pull off like that? That's what I'm worried about is I the rushing average. Could be three point nine to four point one and he can still be the accumulator that Adam talked about. How many places are you going to be able to pop for? Twenty plus three point. If he's at three point nine to four point one. We're talking about a fifteen hundred yard back with his touches. Yeah and only three touchdowns was extremely low now. A few things. The jets have four picks in the top eighty and last year. Devon Single Terry David Montgomery Daryl Henderson's actually in the reverse order Henderson. Montgomery and single Terry. They went picks. Seventy seventy three seventy four. So when you stutter. It would be a stunner if they drafted a running back with all the needs that they have. I mean but they have. They have The sixty eighth pick and the seventy ninth pick. I don't think that'd be a stunner. If they drafted a running back they they need a running back for the future. Sure they they don't have a backup today. Absolutely you wait a little later in Gregg Dylan at Boston College. She was a really dominate. Big Back it's common to. You know the really lofty compass Derrick Henry but You Know Brandon Jacobs. He's very good size speed combine. He's probably going to be like a third or fourth round. Pick out someone like that and leave. Bill is still there passing downs and lead back. But he's coming in as kind of a hammer. I think you'd be complement. And that's the kind of guy that I would think that if lady on bell continues to be Inefficient even if he does get three point six or three point nine yards per carry. It's not something that's really getting. It done That he could wind up taking a lot. More touch away from Belden. Any of the other backs did last year. But then you agree that most of your precarious not on the back. Yeah I do. I just don't think that the offense and the offensive line of improved enough like that's a big reason why I don't like Delta Bounce back. If he was in Pittsburgh or somewhere else I wouldn't be as concerned and I like his touch makes I liked the targets and agree with you project him lower than three point six. I'd probably project three point. Eight or something Yards per carry. But I have concerned that he can maintain the amount of touches. And I like I. There's just so many guys in the third or fourth round that I would rather take and be excited about taking that I think have top Like have the potential to be first round picks in twenty twenty one because it had such a good twenty twenty season lady on bells is just like A. It's just a a safety pick I. I guess you're locking touches but just philosophically I don't take those types of acts but I think this is a good philosophically part of it though is a good discussion because her like I agree. There's no flash levy on BELL'S NOT GOING TO BE A first round pick in two thousand twenty one because it'd be a twenty nine year old running back but and I understand that like maybe you think there's more concerned that someone takes such as away from him that I do but the numbers you're saying if we just gave him a median projection and he doesn't lose those touches then you're going to project him to be a top ten running. You might project them to be like a top eight running back because you're going to protect him for fifteen hundred total yards in probably eight touchdowns. I here's something gross so like yes. I understand what you're saying about like the lack of upside with a player like Levian Bell. And maybe even I'm under underrating the risk. But I think that there is like number upside just in his base projection. And we wouldn't think that that was his ultimate like possible upside right because of he's averaging even a little bit below four yards per carry and he's getting the workload that he had last year he's going to see positive regression in touchdowns he can be better. He did not have a single area of twenty plus yards last year his he had two plays of twenty plus yards and they were both in the passing game. Just an absolute just a nightmare year. I'm hoping the offensive line improves. Warm and I again I just got done representing the jets and the mock draft on. Cbs Sports HQ. So I've done a lot of studying on their needs. They need so many things. Besides the fact they need. Basically four more offensive lineman. They're pass rush. Huge question. Marks Secondary needs up there. Receiving core is brutal. Yes who's WHO's their best wide receiver now crowder outer so second best and not only that on Levy on bell. Three point zero yards per se. He averaged four yards per carry. Average four yards per carry in two thousand seventeen wasn't great and his longest run. That year was twenty seven yards. So it's possible. He's just far removed from what he was in his prime. And here's one last fun. Exercising this exercise support seats case and supports Ben's case I think Davis sort of in the middle of them but I'm GonNa region I'm closer to Ethan Ben. Okay I'M GONNA I'm GONNA play you. I'm GonNa play read you the players who were drafted in the fourth round of a PR league last year our fantasy football today draft and some of them really hit. Some of them were bus. Don't have that safety of Libyan Bell. Tyler. Lockett Twelve Team. League Tyler. Lockett Evan Ingram Josh. Jacobs Calvin Ridley Amari Cooper Aaron Jones. Mark Ingram T. Y. Hilton Cooper Cup. Kenny Golladay AJ Green and Oj. Howard you had inked the only ones that didn't hit except Bill Jay Howard right at the end were injuries and I don't think levy on bell doesn't have injury risk. We can set that aside and say if he gets hurt but this is a guy who has had chronic knee issues missed the season. It wasn't very explosive when he came back. I don't know why we would think he's going to be the picture of health as a aging running back as well. I mean I think he has as much risk as anyone in that rage. Let's go to Ben's antique wide receivers the oldest got T. Y. Hilton and. Aj agree all right. Yeah they they`re. They're not in their prime probably anymore. Green MISSED THE ENTIRE SEASON. Hilton only played ten games. He had forty five catches average fifty yards per game. He did catch five touchdowns in ten games. He's on pace for eight hundred two yards and eight touchdowns on one hundred and nine targets and he was outside the top thirty on a per game basis. Who Do you like better this year too? I hope Interagency Green. Actually feel better about green anybody that I need to get into waiting for banner or heath to try there've been skies You're giving them the password okay. It's my fault that's my fault. It was bad organisation. Yeah I would just say Siri show me what lady I'm bill would look like if he was a wide. Receiver T. Y. Hilton or you can ask. Alexa. So you're busy. What Back Double Bird. So so who Who Do you Dave? And he think that bell that into that Hilton and green will bounce back this year. I'm a believer in Green. Because I'm a believer borough and I I think the bengals are going to continue to be a floundering team that will have to throw the ball and Aj Green comes back. He's happy with the new quarterback he's happy with the new direction he's got the franchise tag and he shows everybody that he can still be good when he's on the field. There's the injury risk to me. It's still the biggest thing with. Aj Green the problem is that there's injury risk with ty Hilton. And even though Philip rivers did connect with two receivers for over a thousand yards last year in L. A. I I'm still nervous about T. Y. Hilton getting there. And Hilton's never been a big touchdown producer. So I'm a little less optimistic about him I would. I'm at the point now where I'm comfortable taking. Aj Green very late round for NPR. T wise now more like around five for me. I listen these two combined for forty five catches for five hundred yards last year. So yes I think that they will both bounce back from that I like t y Hilton slightly better than Aj Green. Right now for green. I think and this whole bingles offense and I'm GonNa talk about this probably more and more as this whole thing goes on. How much time does job hero gets with his. Nfl team how much time does AJ Green show up for All of the off season stuff with his rookie quarterback. How much time do they spend together? I I have. I'm going to have probably more concerns as this goes on about players on new teams and rookies than I do in normal years and that will be especially true if green decides to sit out everything because he got franchise tagged so i. I like Hilton. Low End Number. Two and a j green is a borderline number. Two right now. Okay Ben Gretch. Let's hear your cases for bounce backs for Hilton and Green. And who would you take? I I would probably take Hilton. I I like them both I. He's a really good point about potential shortened offseason time and I think that could be Something to consider but for both of these guys were talking about you know injury rebounds first of all which is always a risky thing to bet on. We're talking Similar situations in that. They should both be getting improvements at quarterback. A lot of people are down on Philip rivers at this point he's GonNa play behind. Probably the best offensive line. I don't know of his career but certainly in the last several years So I do expect rivers to play better than he has in the last couple of seasons. And he's still an accurate quarterback he throws a lot of interceptions especially when they're trailing When the chargers in the past trailing in games he gets aggressive which. I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing. A bad trait quarterback And he does make some boneheaded throats but has always had pretty good at Accuracy numbers And I think is a considerable upgrade on UNTER. Kobe percent as passer. And then borough. I think we should expect even as a rookie will be an upgrade on Andy. Dalton there'll be the number one pick probably So both of these guys were talking about if they can be healthy. They're almost certainly the number ones on their offenses. They're not quite as old as probably a lot expected. Hill minus thirty right now. We'll be thirty one this year. Greens thirty one will be thirty two But Hilton before last season was clearly the worst season of his career before that he ad or eight thousand yards in seven seasons. So even if you had no yards last year he would have averaged still at this point. A thousand yards per season for his eight years. He only had five hundred yards. It was a down year but it was injury related. It was You know his quarterback retired weeks before the season started. It was not a great year for the colts. For a lot of reasons. They've now again. Upgraded quarterback green is a little bit harder to make a case for because he got hurt. Midseason IN TWO THOUSAND. Eighteen missed all of twenty nineteen. But if you go back and look you know. Six of his first seven seasons where thousand yard seasons the only year he didn't make it was actually going to be his best year. He only played ten games and he had nine hundred sixty four yards in terms of yards per game. That was his best pace. He was on pace to have a phenomenal year. That you're he's been very very consistent throughout his career until missing last year and a half so these are two guys I think are very clear. Number One wide receivers could be in for for. Qb upgrades from what they played in the past and for Hilton what he played in played with last year and should be in better. Offense is I mean. I just think there's a lot of similarities and unless you think they're completely over the hill I I'm curious where they went in our last drafts because Davis said fourth or fifth. I feel that they've been going a little bit later than that. Maybe I'm wrong. I Took Hilton in the fourth round. In our I think non PR drafts and fifth round maybe NPR's three receiver league and he's worse than and he's only had one season with more than eighty. Two Catches T. Y. Hilton. He's a big yards per catch guy not last year. Eleven point one yards per catch. I'm more or less willing to throw out last year. He was sixteen point seven the year before she koby reset was horrible. Philip rivers in the last ten seasons only one time as a wide receiver had more than twelve hundred yards. Only one time as a wide receiver had double digit touchdown catches in the last ten seasons with rivers. Antonio Gates did do that twice. Though and yet Keenan Allen has been really good. Last four years tyrel Williams was seventeen. Pr Keenan Allen was third on was twelfth and Alan was sixth. So that's that's a really good recent track record of a number one wide receiver and and Philip rivers and tyrone Williams. Would you say Tyrone Williams? More T. Y. Hilton than Keenan. Allen is sure yeah I mean I think when you noted that stat I was thinking will Keenan Allen was number one in. It's just a different type of player. He catches a lot of balls. Closer to the line of scrimmage tyrel and Mike Williams last year had a thousand yard season As kind of more the downfield threats I think Hilton is a is still obviously the downfield threat but is more a well rounded number one than either Tiroler Mike and it's it's notable. The colts have an added anyone in free agency to the pass catching court in fact. They've lost abroad and really not replaced him. I expect add to the to the Position Group in the draft. But there's early not many free agents left that they can add that would contend with you number one duties. You're probably looking at Zach. Pascall and Payers Campbell. Yeah Jack Del Atti- yet. Nhl funchess. Either Ben Right. Oh you're you're you're spot on there so in case just note is I think funchess had said health. I think he's GonNa try and be in Green Bay. Would the colts envision him being last year? And that's just another red zone target so so he could take touchdowns away from receivers wherever he goes provided he's healthy. He just wasn't healthy last year. One of the struggles. I've had with projecting the Colt is. Obviously they were really run. Heavy and game script dependent last year. Five hundred thirteen pass attempts More than ten percents below league median the year before same coaching staff. Different order back. Obviously six hundred forty four pass attempts. Now I would say quarterback wasn't the only thing that changed. Their defense was better last year and their defense has gotten a lot better. This off season would. Where would you guys put their pass? Attempts like League. Median was five seventy five last year. I think they'll be below average but not too far below. I think I have no idea. I think they have a quarterback. I think they have a quarterback this year. You know they. They didn't want perset throwing the ball. Maybe they did at the start of the season but certainly it became apparent. They weren't GonNa win behind fifty. What will when he got hurt when he got hurt? That's when they really start to get cautious. Five fifty is a good number. I think-i but he'll Hilton's been a good receiver and he's a really good fantasy receiver and he's only once had had one hundred more than like one hundred and thirty eight targets. Two years ago he was a top twelve receiver. Maybe just outside with like a hundred and twenty targets nearly play like fourteen games so now so he started. His career is mostly deep threat. And he what you said only once. He's had more than one hundred thirty targets. He did it for years in a row. Hundred and thirty eight targets right okay. Thirty nine he only wants. He's had a hundred and forty Adam. If you wanted to Jed pick that number right above where I like. Two hundred four hundred says a ton especially for. Downfield threat. That's a guy that's getting high-value air yards downfield targets and still racking up plenty of other targets. One hundred forty is not a small amount target if he gets hundred forty targets this year. He's going to be very good. I think he's been good. He's he was a top twelve wide receiver. Maybe just just worse than that with one hundred twenty targets two years ago. Let's let's wrap up. Go ahead yeah I think with Hilton specifically you have an green to Felton. You have the risk. Did he get worse last year or visit all JR? Kobe did Philip rivers. Get worse last year or was it always offensive line. And then how much do they want to pass their? There's there's some risk there and I I think there's top fifteen upside like what he did in two thousand eighteen. Yeah let me ask you this last question. How many of last year's rookie wide receivers would you take ahead of t y Hilton and AJ Green? So we're looking at AJ Brown and maybe metcalf maclaurin whom and Slayton Deebo Samuel are forgetting here. But how many of them would you take ahead of Hilton and green? Probably the first three they said and I think before Before like Mark Brown or for like deebo Samuel. I think I'd be comfortable taking Hilton at that point. Ibo and Marcus Brown and will fuller but what about what about those first three? Aj Brown maclaurin decay metcalf as of now got Hilton behind them. Aj Brown is the only one I have ahead of Hilton. And that's only in non PR. Okay once I get comfortable with the idea of Philip Rivers chucking deep and. That's just something that I've got to look into from last year and see how many deep targets he had. I can find that pretty easily. I think I can warm up to a little bit more. Alright Dave Adam feeling and Tom Brady or your bounce backs a ton about these guys. I don't know if we really need to get into it a lot. More with Adam feeling use me. Yeah this is my turn to ask the other panelists if they agree or disagree. Oh remember trying to save you a little time. We'll do we'll do five minutes on these guys and then we'll get into the bounce back. Oh meter and then your emails at fantasy football. Cbs's Dot Com all right. He's in Ben. Do you agree or disagree? Adam theon and Tom Brady bouncing back. I think Brady is a is a bounceback candidate. Yes he's in a better off until probably throw downfield more but he's not gonna get super excited about feeling is the guy at the top of the show. I mentioned is only a year younger than T. Y. Hilton than we think. Don't think of him as that old but He's a guy also coming off an injury. He's the guy also a potential run first offense or almost certainly a run first offense. I don't see how Phelan is so much of a better pick than to him. And he's going in like the second round because digs has gone now and it seems clear is going to get a ton of targets but I I think IRV Smith will be involved along with Rudolph W using two receivers and they're going to add to their receiver room. I think Phelan's being overdrafted mocks when he goes in the second round. Yeah he's definitely bounced back candidate. He had four hundred yards last year. And he's going to be top twenty wide receiver. I still prefer theon to Hilton. But it's a situation where I think feelings being drafted around too early and Hilton's being drafted around too early and feelings being drafted two rounds ahead of Hilton. So yeah I I think he's a borderline top twelve ride receiver. He may have an another good touchdown season and sneak his way into the topic. But it'll be interesting as well like with the injuries he's dealt with and without having Stefan digs on the other side efficiency. Looks like yeah and it's it's two straight years with injuries because I don't know if you missed any time in two thousand eighteen but he certainly played her late in the season. So that's a concern for theline for sure but I said it so many times in the guy's been better than better than digs in fantasy when they both have been on the field and he's just been really awesome three years in a row basically what he's been healthy so I I'm very high on him. I've been taking him in the second round. Said we're just saying that. He was never healthy after his injury last year. Then I mean you pull up the game log and remember how many games he played after the. Let's let's take a look after the injury David. This is your guys all that you get in a second here but to them. He left almost immediately right. He left the chiefs game in week. Nine he no. He played two games after the chiefs. Game maybe you only left one immediately. So I played four games counting the playoffs after the chiefs and he was great in the playoffs. No yeah he played five one hundred twenty nine yards in one game with fifty. He played five games after the after the injury. One of them was the chiefs game. I left on the opening possession after that. You think a guy had seven targets and three catches and two games was healthy. Well I think it's interesting because before the injury when he was so good for fantasy. It was almost all touchdowns. His yardage totals forty three seventy five fifty five. Six nowy didn't get hurt. That game played ninety five percents of the snaps one hundred and thirty and fifty seven. It was almost all because the touchdowns absolutely also just want to add because someone mentioned this when we're talking about Hilton whether he got worse. Hilton the same thing. He played through a calf strain and it was like every week. He shouldn't be playing but he's like I'm going to get out there and play for my team. He's like fifty percents NAP shares. At times he was not healthy at all. Okay Dave Gobert wa just know that the two times that Adam themes had at least one hundred targets in a season he's finished as a top ten receiver. Npr and he's been top fifteen and nine P pr. The he was touchdown dependent early on last year. Still averaged sixteen points per game. He had a couple real monster games and there was the one dozen there. We only had like two fantasy. I was week four. I think he's he's clearly. Got the eye of Kirk cousins. I think he's going to be the lead target getter in Minnesota. I do think of Smith's going to have a role I think they add another receiver in the draft. And there's going to be an interesting competition between that rookie. Receiver Irv Smith Chad. Bb TASHA sharp. B- Johnson maybe Dylan Mitchell gets into the fray and they compete for who gets the second third most targets on the team. Kyle Rudolph obviously is going to be in that mix too but he's been touched on dependent for as long as he's been in the NFL. So I'm looking at volume for feeling I know. He's a great route runner. I know he's got great hands. And I I see what you see him. I think he does have potential to have another very very good year. Particularly in Minnesota offense. That's probably going to have to throw more than they'd like to. I know we're talking about them as for team. Part of the formula than being run first team is having a defense. That's very good. They've lost a lot of pieces on that defense and I'm not sure how good they'll be at making up forward. Yup that's a good point and I think Davin cooks going to be their second leading receiver. I mean that's part of the appeal with Phelan's he is so far and away the best option on that team Hilton's not. Oh no he i. I've been drafting feeling Hilton. Like it's my job later. Which also research station has like solidified for me. That Hilton is the discount. Adam feeling you don't have to pay. You can save two rounds and like all the arguments apply. Phelan's better especially in a PR standpoint like feelings. Got a chance for one hundred catches. Let's see I don't see any chance. That Hilton has like one year with more than eighty two. But he did. I mean he led the League in Yardage in two thousand sixteen just four years ago. I mean he's he's very good. I it you know what the fact that I've been so heavy on Dealin and Hilton these last two. It's been only been to grasp but I know in my mind that I'm very high on those two compared to everybody else on the show that maybe Ben It scares me a little bit because you know sports is something. It's the young man's game and these guys are in their thirties and there may be breaking down a little bit so it does scare me independent of of where. They are in their careers. I think they're great values but yeah you could be investing Pretty High. Picks guys around their downside. Are we going to be nervous about? Julio Jones I I mean are we. Are we going to throw them away? And not even consider. He was good. He's been held. Her lookie stayed healthy. Listen I think Adam field and he's been in their whole lives. That's true too but I do think that Adam feel and the injuries cost him last year. I think we can immediately say that. I don't think it's a talent issue with him at all at all. It's just a matter of can he stay healthy. Julio Jones on Targets No. He's not but Adam was talking about age and so we're GonNa just completely discount players because their age at wide receiver this guy. I know it's easy to do it. Running back then you know. Let's throw in every receiver. That's thirty or should I mean you should and I'm I look at Julio Jones's season and he had forty eight targets in his last three games and that was without Calvin Ridley Okay He. He had one hundred thirty four yards in two touchdowns one hundred sixty six yards and then seventy eight yards in his last three games. I I am not without concern for Julio Jones. Because he wasn't as good last year as he typically is when Calvin really was on the field. And it's possible like mom my bowl prediction for. Hq This Week. We're talking about every team or each giving a bowl. Pretty we have like one team per division my bold prediction. On the Falcons is that Calvin Ridley's better than Julio Jones would. How surprise would you guys be of that? Happen fairly spiced. Thirty percents impress Yeah my my original projections had really scoring like three more touchdowns. Julio Jones so I guess I wouldn't be surprised I've got both of my top ten. Oh Must Love Matt Ryan all right cool. Let's bounce back. Oh meter go in here. Who did our listeners? Think would bounce back. This is from zero to town the bounceback oh meter from Alex. Mountjoy Dairy Geiss five. Sure five I don't know what to make a guys obvious. Great talent they added Peyton Barbara Probably still going to have Adrian Peterson. The bryce love is like they have a ton of running backs. Just give me a damn number three many cooks in the kitchen for Mike. James L. Beckham junior in a big way. He's way too talented not to six four. Yeah I'm trying to remember. Odell Beckham finished. What like twentieth last year. Npr He finished. I don't even know twenty fifth then. Okay I'll give them a five. I think it'd be better than that. But not in a big way. Five K from blue. Oj Howard Bounce back three another four four from in doggy James Connor one seven one. I I would have said eight or nine two days ago. I'm feel that were a three now right. I had a feeling steelers. We're going to do this. Oh they're gonNA they're they feel the way about James Connor. The redskins feel about Darius guys. They love the talent but they're nervous about relying on him too much. Somebody had Jonathan Taylor mocked them. Well that put their okay. They'd have to trade up because there have the forty ninth pick right. They don't have a first. Maybe they could get Jonathan Taylor there. But they don't have a lot of draft capital they have one pick in the top one hundred the steelers. Of course they could trade up and get someone but look they're going to add. A running back does not mean they're not going to feature James Connor for one more year and then get rid of him you know L. Last year and have Jalen Samuels as a good pass catching back. So they're adding to that. You're not just talking about one other back. The thirty clearly not GonNa Feature James Caan. If they're adding to that I think they they've had it with Jalen Samuels and they're worried about James Connor staying healthy and they need something. They need another piece. They're not gonNA pay James Connor when his contract comes up. Which I think happens this year. I think he's in the final year of his deal. Double CHECK IF NOT. It's two years it's one of the other. I thought it was a they can easily plan ahead be right. I do think it's possible because Jalen Samuels has not really been very good. Is An h back In terms of efficiency and Benny Snell. I didn't think it was particularly good. So maybe maybe they just want to add a backup running back yeah This is the last year of Connor. Steel I'd be shocked if he signed a rich extension after this year. Connor by the way has one season as anything remotely close to a work horseback and he was a late round. Pick let our third round pick. It wasn't like a a high profile guy so but he was doing there. He's there star number one lead back. I think is a little aggressive okay. How `bout a couple more from ed? Ed Dube's I don't know Aaron Rodgers Bounceback Smash. I'M GONNA say seven for Aaron Rodgers. He's had twenty seven total touchdowns each the past two seasons they they. They've added Devin funchess. That should be good for five much downs. I know you can laugh but five percents. I'm not saying he's GonNa be good fantasy. He's going to be good for Aaron Rodgers. I think storm Burger can catch touchdowns I think about to Adams can catch all the rest of the touchdowns. Aaron Jones will get a few taking away from Adams and they might draft a receiver. Wouldn't surprise me. In the League Hacksaw Aaron Rodgers. Get back over four thousand yards and thirty touchdowns four thousand. I mean he'll get that but we will get forty five forty five hundred forty three hundred. You might be just he. He'll I I would say forty. Two is a safe number for him all right. How about from Ethan Philip Rivers? I think five or six. I should have changed. Aaron Ri- Changer Rogers to a one. Because you might be one zero zero. I'm really surprised that low on AARON RODGERS GONNA. Why so long? Philip rivers was. What twelve the quarterback last year? I was like it was yeah. It was quite a while. They're not going to be a top five quarterback could that's what he had to be bounced back so so not getting too specific into where he'll finish no. I don't think that's true. I mean he wasn't that good last year he was only good when he had an amazing matchup basically and he was great in those games. He wasn't that good. We know that so just from a playing. Been that good for three years. So my performance perspective will Aaron Rodgers Bounce back and play really well to twenty sixteen not GonNa win the MVP or whatever. We didn't twenty sixty eight. I don't know but yeah can you? Can you get you can you? Can you have a thirty five touchdowns season can be can be amazing again? I I don't know what it's been a long time to seeing that so you're saying now remember I sorry. I think you'll be a top twelve quarterback that's fine. I just don't think it'd be much different than last year. Okay sorry yes you can make a quick case for Philip Rivers. I so Frank Reich offense which I think Frank Reich is a very good quarterback coach And I think it suits rivers. It's short passing. It's a you know he like. They're probably going to be more run heavy. We were talking about the past But good offensive line. The he has a lot of weapons in Campbell. And Hime hines is really good athlete And so I obviously Optimistic About two things act. Pasco is really good too So I think he'd like this could be type of thing where he's now in a better fit than he's ever really been and like you guys remember. When Brett Farr went to the Vikings and had like a really good late season earlier season like I. I kind of feel like we could see a little bit bounced back from Philip Rivers like that. A little bit of a rejuvenation. He's a competitive guy. He's you know he's GonNa want to do well So am I crazy about that? No you're drafting him. With one of your last three picks at you don't prioritize them as a top twelve rushing value whatsoever. He's not a huge fan but he never has. Yeah but I do love the idea of him throwing behind that offensive line especially if they can find one more piece to that passing game and that's the thing that like an it's said about Rogers but this is a fantasy football show. He was the fifteenth quarterback and fantasy last year. I'm thinking more. I guess for his weapons than to really hit him. I don't think he's GonNa make the colts weapons better than the chargers. Weapons were last year. So I mean there's a difference though between just looking at where a guy finished and fantasy points and really talking about the impact he had on your fantasy team. Aaron Rodgers did not feel like the eighth. Most Valuable quarterback last year rivers did not feel like a top fifteen quarterback. But what did they do? They played sixteen games and they accumulated a lot of stats but they didn't play particularly well. Particularly especially Philip Rivers Roger. Nobody's we're not drafting. Aaron Rodgers to be better than a top eight quarterback drafting Philip rivers. The top fifteen quarterback I just. I don't really think Aaron Rodgers was a top eight quarterback last year. I mean by the numbers. Okay yes he finished one two three four five six seven th in six points and finished eleventh in fantasy points per game. Does that sound a little outrageous all last? But not even because like he just. He was so inconsistent. Now let's not forget about Adams. Got Her there number. Two receiver situation was as bad as it gets tight. End Situation was horrible and he was learning a new system so they really need a weapon and if they do. I don't see why I still feel like there's a great player there and Aaron Rodgers. He is not old. He doesn't really run that much but he's not he's not Tom. Brady and Bill Rivers. I don't see why he can't be Stud but now we'll have some crap with rose though I remember some throws that just yet. Their third string quarterback type throws I keep can still be a great player and not ever be the air like. He's just that Guy. The all the evidence we have suggest the guy we saw from two thousand nine through two thousand fourteen or sixteen whenever you want to cut it off doesn't exist but he threw for forty four hundred yards in two thousand eighteen and only twenty five touchdowns with six hundred passage. Sims. I don't I don't mean to be good. If five hundred sixty nine pass attempts last year you know thirty. He had twenty-nine fewer pass attempts and he had almost like I think his yards per attempt will be between seven and seven point four. He's going to be between forty four thousand forty one hundred hundred all right. I guess I'm a believer here. We go emails fantasy football at. Cbs Dot Com. Okay twelve needed to forever. Nick Chubb Aaron Jones. George Kill Lamar Jackson and Chris Godwin. Ooh Chubb Jones Kiddo. Lamar Jackson CRISCI win. P P R keep to forever and I think we were drafting Godwin and Jones would be to. That would go off the board I so I might now before Jones he would then peons before. Chubb in our most recent draft. I go very close very close. Toss up I'd go. I I would go godwin and kill and keep forever. Yeah just keep those studs for a long time than you from Bryce from the land. Dear Roger Lebron Wayne Tom. There's the goats They are elsia. Michael on that list was Roger. Roger Federer Federer. Okay come on. Omni misspelled his name on the email he did come out ottis sport. Maybe he meant Roger. I get my points for the Kansas Jayhawks national championship s by the way that race and his emails from Bryce. So here we all has it possible to take Derrick Henry and PR ahead of Nick Chubb. When Chubb caught more passes more receiving yards and almost had more rushing yards even with Kareem hunt there. Now add Kevin Stefanski who loves US running backs trouble outscored Eric. Henry helped me understand why he wouldn't well. Chubb was on his way to being better than Derrick Henry. All the way around and then cream on came in his his production. Nosedive CREMATE STILL THERE. So unless something happens where cream hunts gone and Chubb gets all the work in Cleveland like Derrick. Henry gets pretty much all the work in Tennessee. I'M GONNA Take Henry I. Yeah I think the question was because it seems like a lots being put. He was on pace for twenty two catches in Games with Chubb which is pretty similar. And what you would expect for Derrick Henry. Wait wait wait wait. He was on pace for twenty two games with hunt. You mean yes but I thought he was for thirty catches. I haven't with fifteen catches in those eight games. I Have Mova with eleven in those games. Okay while he was on pace like sixteen hundred total yards. It's just that he scored two touchdowns so it looked like he was terrible after hunt. Wizar- okay either way he was on pace for more catches what Henrietta eighteen yet. He's never had twenty in the season. So I mean I like even with hot there. I expect trump to catch more passes. Henry and I'm taking the form. Chubb didn't isn't the guy who had four hundred touch last year. He's younger chops very good. I mean I I agree that there's a logjam for touches in in Cleveland's offense but I still think job is the Agree with the writer. Yeah you're right. He he had eleven catches. I think I added an extra game in there. Last eight games eleven catches for Nick Chubb But he was on pace for one thousand. Three hundred eighty two rushing yards and two hundred and thirty four receiving yards. So did we give it like a real answer to this interest Sandri? Well yes sure that too. I like even though the two touchdowns last year from Chubb were ridiculous. And you shouldn't expect anything like he's GonNa Score. He may score ten touchdowns. But if Derrick Henry scores plays sixteen games. I think he probably worse fifteen touchdowns and he's the only running back. I feel like that about. Let's get to our next email. F- fantasy football CBS. Had I come from Salvador grade? The trades in a twelve team happy are dynasty league trade. One GIVE UP MICA sticky and pick to eleven eleven th pick around to get devante Parker and Daniel Jones. That's a yeah nice. It sounds like to me are Assisi. It's a SI. You're the I give up. Give it give up devon sit like the grade A. Give up lovin single Terry get. Aj Brown and to twelve twelve of round to give up Devon sixty days. There's not a scale big enough to give that any place. I don't know how many pluses I would have to put on that before. I felt tired of putting pluses on. How did he I twelve with this? I think there are certainly Probably thirty like I'll I can do a twitter poll. Who would you rather have dynasty league? I would assume like a third of the people are going to choose single terry. Which is understandable. I would say it's an A. I prefer Brown to single Terry. But they're back to back for me and you're getting a draft pick. Two's that's great. I was just trying to make Grechko crazy by saying see next. Email is from no name Dear Herald Albert Harold Donald and Mush Mouth Felber Yeah Fat Albert and the Cosby kids. Okay okay. Hey Hey hey alright. Old Man I have third pick in an eight team. Pr Leagues so everyone has a pretty good lineup. let's see. So he has girly and Damian Williams at running back and also Kareem Hunt Has Adams and feeling his Kelsey the vault Adams Adam feeling is Kelsey and he has good bench so I was offered Marlin. Mac Austin Hooper and T. Y. Hilton for Mark Andrews Drew Brees Rico and remember. He has Kelsey so he'd give up. Mark Andrews Drew Brees Rico and he would get Marlin Mac. Awesome Hooper Anti Hilton. Which do this don't they sure? Oh yeah but I would and this is going to sound crazy. Probably I would see if he'd give me a little bit more if I changed Andrews to Kelsey Because Dynasty. I'd rather have Andrews Than Kelsey interesting. Okay well I would. I would like to get more than Mac because you could you could you flip hooper after you make the trade now eight team? League no. He's not a starter is yes. He is in an eight team league. Someone should start Austin Hooper. Not necessarily. I mean this guy's not going to he's going to have travis guilty or Mark Andrews. Okay from Dave Twelve team keeper league. Pr Six point per passing touchdown. I'm taking over a team in a league that has been around for years. I have the second pick in the draft. Here are the players. I'd consider keeping I can keep five. Who SHOULD I keep? Darrell Henderson in the fifth round. Darwin Thompson in the Fifth Round Hardman in the seventh deontay Johnson in the ninth David Johnson and the Thirteen Darius guys in the fourteenth no offense in the Seventeenth Bryce love in the eighteenth. Pick five Henderson mahomes. Infanta must guide. I would keep hardman. Keep David Johnson Johnson and Johnson with the last two. Okay okay so try and redraft Hardman Henderson. I think we all agree. The top three or Henderson homes and fant Yep and then we have to to keep David Johnson in round thirteen. You'll go with the younger receiver. Yeah I'll probably go with Mykola Andy Onto Johnson or Darius is this guy would keep before dave there. So this is a keeper League Dynasty League. Like you're just really focusing. On this year's value I think and David Johnson a thirteenth round. I Love Them. But you gotTa Take Johnson in the thirteenth round. Like you're you're giving up. You could draft Nicole Hardman after the seventh round draft. Deontay John in the ninth round a Catalog Five League. No those everyone goes way up. Yes David Johnson's probably a second round pick in this format next email Aaron from Ireland to the regulators ten teams Standard Scoring Dynasty League. Should I trade Mike Williams and if so what? I'm trying to improve at tight end. I Have Darren Waller Jacob Hollister Dawson Knox and Jordan Atkins He has six picks eakins Jordan. Megan's he did. He did right Atkinson. I Ron Burgundy that anyway I should he trade Mike Williams in a ten team Standards Dynasty League. Sure I'm not real optimistic about him with a quarterback change right. Now what's the chart say I would like I don't know if this is accurate in terms of like I feel like Mike Williams value is viewed all over the place. Could you tyler higby forum? I do that I would trade him for no fant. Oh Yeah I trained for my Kosinski. What about night? Aiden hearst a Oh yeah. I'd trade him for hidden. Hearst Aid Nurses Twenty seven. What are you guys have against Mike Ezekie? When do you have four? Mike Is Sticky. Ninety seven percent house spark athlete. Second Round Pick just got the fourth most air yards at the tight end position. Second season cousin. A freak athlete at six six. Who played a ton last year? Got A ton of volume. He wasn't great. But then you go you bury the lead. No look I mean. Obviously the things you say are Gergiev is going into his third year so I think he should be on the brain. He didn't really have much of an opportunity his first year. Right right. Well I gotta read one more important email here to end this show. And this is from jared Atlanta with all of the sudden free time I decided to finally watch Jerry. Maguire settle for myself if it was a football movie. Personally I don't think it is however while typing this up. Of course the most memorable see the movie is Rod Wells. Knocked unconscious touchdown. Grab Week winning. Fantasy performance by Rod tidwell with that being said tidwell central portrayal is his true love story with his wife. Marcy and his flourishing allowed friendship with Jerry whereas for Jerry it. Is it his epiphany on his purpose for his career in life and the tough road ahead for him calling Jerry. Maguire football movie would be like calling how to lose a guy in ten days a basketball movie just because the knickerbockers play a small role in the flick is just not a good analogy whatsoever because how to lose a guy in ten days. The main characters are basketball players. They just go to a game. I think I mean congratulations jared from Atlanta. You're wrong though he he's right. He's taking a little bit too far with the with How To lose a guy at ten days but it's not a love story. Everybody and I plan on watching it this weekend because I don't think my wife's ever seen it and she doesn't think it's going to be good one thing. We can all agree on. It's a great movie a great and needs to be watched. Even though there's barely any sports you complete me am thank you dave. You complete me as well. Everybody y'all had me at. Hello Talk to you on Thursday or Friday with our next edition fantasy.

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RTFF #319:  Week 12 (Part 2)

Fantasy Feast: 'Eatin

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RTFF #319: Week 12 (Part 2)

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They're Evan and we need to get through the rest of the Sunday late games. The monday. Nighter and the Sunday night or which is the Packers and the Vikings, by the way, we love when you guys hit us up on social media at Ross Tucker NFL at Evan Silva, whatever RTF podcast, and let us know how well you're doing in your fantasy league. Thanks to us. That's huge. We absolutely love love love when you guys do that. So please, please, please please keep doing that. And by the way, you have something else you should strongly consider for the holidays. How about read power bikes and how about the deal they got coming up for you guys on cyber Monday. So RAD power brakes is it consumer direct brand. Right. So you're already getting a premium electric bike without paying the huge markups caused by dealers third party retailers. You know, and that's why they're able to price them at less. Than half the price of comparable bikes on the market because they don't have to have that dealer retail markups. You know, I love businesses like this. They also have this four hundred dollars off per model for cyber Monday making it easier for you guys to get these awesome. Power bikes that can reach twenty miles per hour with zero peddling visit WWW dot read power, bikes dot com slash podcast. I think I'd just like saying the word RAD been a while since I said RAD saying read is not gnarly, dude. It's awesome RAD power bikes dot com slash podcast that tell you learn more and don't forget to shop their cyber Monday sale on November twenty six to save big. All right Evan. Let's start with a couple of teams that really disappointed me last week. Week the cardinals and the chargers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They both disappointed. Yeah. Absolutely, man. That was bad. You're right. It was bad by both of them. Really? Especially the chargers though. Because the chargers have something to play for. And you know, losing that game. They were coming off their bye weren't they chargers. No, they'd beaten the radar before. Yes. Yes. So basically, they they were coming off. Yeah. I think this is a Melvin Gordon game. You know, I think the the chargers just control the rock, and your that's usually what teams do against the cardinals with that sad, man. The chargers run defense is problematic. And it's not getting any better. They did get back. You played thirty one snaps last week. But man, they lost Corey legit one week after losing Denzel Perryman what thing I did last week. 'cause I looked at the split stats within without Denzel Perryman on the field and going back to last year. And I mean, it's a big gap. It's like they they allow full yard per carry more with Denzel Perryman off the field like five point one yards per carry. That's a lot a lot. So that bodes well for David Johnson on the other side, but that actually would work against the chargers chances of controlling the game. Ultimately, I think that they do I think they bounce back in just a such a superior team too. Zona? But I think that Melvin Gordon gets role in Austin that cler has not really been a factor. He's had a bunch of big plays called back recently. But he has not been a factor in the box score. For a while since the chart. Since the charters kind of like decided to commit to Melvin Gordon as they're they're they're belco. Austin that color was used a lot more early in the season. But ever since that game in London that was the week seven game. And then that's when the charters by was. They just have not used very much Austin that cleared and he's not really a flex option anymore. Philip rivers has. Pass attempts have just been really really low. I mean their bottom three in the NFL and pass it temps. So that even last week. We saw them throw the ball. Lot more. It didn't necessarily go that. Well, Philip rivers did throw over four yards. But he threw a couple of picks and they wound up losing the game. That has not been the winning formula for them. The the winning formula has been for the chargers to control games with Melvin Gordon. I think that's what they're going to try to get back to Philip rivers. Low upside fringe fantasy starter against Amazon Arizona can rush the passer too. Mike Williams, Tyrone Williams, so. Tyrone Williams is clearly the number two here. He is out targeted Mike Williams since that by week twenty four to sixteen and he's run forty three more pass routes. So hey, you might get lucky with Mike Williams touchdown. But if you're deciding between the two tyrel is the guy Keenan island on fire again love to see that. He runs on the interior a little bit over half the time. It's fifty three forty seven and Patrick Peterson has covered the slot on lonely. Four snaps all season cardinals Buddha Baker as their slot corner. He's pretty good. But can definitely be beaten in coverage. Good matchup for Keenan Allen, Mike Williams and Tyra Williams likelier to see Patrick Peterson in this game. In Tonio gates wakes up about that five catches eighty yards and a touchdown. He didn't need over forty pass attempts for Phil. From Philip rivers to get their his playing times participation were up a little bit. But it's still not a ton. So, you know, as a longtime in Tonio gates truth or I haven't been a lot of best balls. You know, I'm not so sure what to think about in Tonio gates this week lean toward not chasing the points. I think that the cardinal the charters are going to go back to not. Not throwing the ball whole lot in this game. Josh Rosen coming off a three touchdown game. But also a bunch of turnovers against the raiders. And I think that the chargers defense is the play here. Not Josh Rosen. In the receiver corollary fits matching up in the slot against the chargers. Solid match up. You know, not great. But but solid up the chargers. Give up a high completion rate in the slot. Doesn't kick is excellent as a football player, but you can get catches in the slot against the chargers. Christian Kirk on the outside going to deal with Casey Hayward. No, thanks, Ricky seals Jones, always tease. You know, he's gonna be out there a lot. He's going to air yards. And you know, he's probably not going to catch a whole lot of Wheaton. We can move onto the next one. Next one's interesting. It's the Miami Dolphins. It looks like tannehill will be back. Even though everybody's saying that he's not one hundred percent against the Indianapolis Colts who are absolutely rolling, but might be without their center. Ryan kelly. Yeah. I'm not out to Optimus about Ryan Kelly right now, and they would move onto Evan beim. Evan beim out of Mizzou old third round pick of the cardinals has bounced around. I think they're going to be okay against Miami. Miami on the interior has not been not been real good. They cut Jordan Phillips. They moved on from Dhamma consumer. Of course, they they had to place. Vincent Taylor on injured. Reserve. So I think I think they're going to be okay in this particular game. And hopefully Ryan Kelly will be misses a game. It doesn't sound like a particularly serious injury. So and he's been an excellent pass blocking center. I mean, everybody's been passed blocking well on the colts. You know when you when your quarterback is going to and twenty straight dropbox without taking a sack you were getting the job done and the dolphins. Don't have a pass rush at all. So me Cameron wake will pop up every now, and again, Robert Quyen popped up like twice, but you know, their past rush metrics are real real bad. Andrew luck should have a real nice Quique squeaky clean pocket. We talked about how last week was a blow up week for T Y Elton. This one is to match them up with avian Howard. Please xavien Howard ran four five eight coming out of Baylor. Okay. T y Hilton in four three four please match him up t y Hilton is gonna tear the lid off this. We just like he always does on the fast track at Lucas oil stadium. I think that Andrew luck t y Hilton stack, you know, it's gonna be deserves to be really popular this week. And it it absolutely should be. I'm playing it in daily fantasy Eric LeBron's zero targets, you know, guess what guys routes run and snaps do matter because we knew that his floor was going to be low as long he's runs thirteen routes in three straight Nieves. Thirteen routes. You know, so he's going to have a game where he just gets ignored. He ends up running the routes and the ball doesn't go to me goes to Jack Doyle, or whatever they sorta Chester Rogers on those plays or MO alley talks or whatever. Eric Iran is a touchdown dependent guy and other dolphins have been awful against tight ends. You can really beat them up with tight ends Jack Doyle's, I still think is the best play among the colts tight ends. But Eric, Yvonne is a guy that you can you can look at this week. I know guys coming off the goose eggs are never never comfortable. But I think they're more likely to go back to him. Then not your your biggest concern is that they jacked Lewis played five games this season. Eric Brown has five targets are fewer in all of them. So you kind of you got to know what you're getting into with Eric Ibran? And then receivers Ryan grant Dontrelle Inman Zach PASCAL. Chester rogers. There's a bunch of them the the best one the best option out of all them is Dontrelle Inman. He did catch a touchdown last week in the second half. Second set seven yard score. He is like a wide receiver four in a high scoring offense. But he's like rotating with Ryan grant, basically and in the involved other guys to Marla MAC, I think roles here. Dolphins defense in terms of run defense shot last time we saw that saw them play Aaron Jones was just running all over them. And I think that we can expect similar things here from Marlin MAC. Jordan Wilkins has played well though, and that's something to keep an eye on. He ripped a big big run in week ten and then last week four carries for thirty yards and a touchdown. And if you just go back and look at his production over the last five sixty s Jordan Wilkins has been adding something to their running game wouldn't surprise me. If they start to give him a little bit more work going forward on the other side, you mentioned Tanny hills back Jiechi grant out for the season. We don't know on. Devante parker. Frank gore. Kenyan Drake situations is one of the most frustrating situations and fantasy. I just I don't have a whole lot say about the dolphins. We can move onto the next one Steelers Broncos. In Denver Broncos cut their running game going last week. I mentioned earlier how the chargers run defense is kind of in bad shape. Broncos. They're kept rolling last week despite having lost run on Leary, Matt parodies and Mexico who's filling in for Ronald Leary. But that gives you a level of confidence in Philip Lindsay. It's just a three man backfield with devante Booker, Royce. Freeman Philip Lindsay, but Lindsay is the lead guy and that puts him on the, you know, the mix him a decent Rb to slash flex plays. Got that big run ability. I mean, they despite losing those interior linemen like their big plays last week came on up the middle runs. That's how Philip grins Lindsay scored his long. Touchdown Steelers have been good in run defense for sure. But. Philip Lindsay's got that big playability, and they can use them in the passing game too. Case keenum. Low end to quarterback league play. Cortlandt Sutton on outside likeliest to draw. Joe Hayden's coverage. You know, if we're looking at a guy to play in Denver's passing game this week. It is definitely a manual Sanders. Manual Sanders going to be a fifty percent inside fifty percent outside receiver day, Sean Hamilton, by the way, aggravated a knee injury. Don't if he's gonna play. I would guess not that would put Tim Patrick back in the lineup as third receiver. Emmanuel sanders. Oh, yeah. This is a revenge game for him went back and looked and see if if he is played the Steelers at all any has been for a while it was with Peyton Manning. So, you know, major asterisk there. But he had ten catches for one hundred eighty one yards and a touchdown and only other time facing off with his former team. For the Steelers. You know, Ben bounce back last week from just the worst frigging first-half that you have ever seen. You wound up being awesome and fantasy against Jacksonville. This is a later game the bad splits for Big Ben which really haven't affected him this season too badly. But. The bad splits for him are one PM eastern time road games. This is a later game. So I think at Ben is fine as a play Broncos. Aren't that scary from a defensive standpoint, especially on the outside outside receive outside cornerback? They just cut pacman Jones who'd been playing a ton of snaps for them. Tremaine Brock is easily beatable as is Bradley Roby. Antonio Brown should definitely get loose in this game. Juju in the slot. Gonna get a lot of Chris Harris, probably. That's not the best matchup. But does have a major size advantage on Chris Harris. With that said, I think it increases the risk a little bit of ju ju. They can move him outside if they want to go and play Switzer in the slot more. So that you know, I think ultimately juju you're using him as a wide receiver to and season long pretty much every week. Titan. Vance McDonald stays hot, you know, he's he's one of the most underrated tight ends in league at this point. But both I think in real life in fantasy Broncos are not good at covering tight ends heaven been since you know, Vance Joseph became the coach even before that really. Whatever it is. They're they they have been bad against tight ends for a long time. And Vance McDonald one of the best run after catch. Tight ends in the NFL last week showed his athleticism just out jumped tell them Smith one of the most athletic linebackers in the league for a touchdown. James Connor should get it rolling again to you know, when they when they fall behind big that's not ever bode well for running back, and that's what happened for James Connor last week. I think he gets it back going against Denver. Denver has not been good against the run since early in the season. And that takes care of that game. The next game is Sunday night football. It's the Packers four five and one the Vikings five four and won both teams. Definitely disappointing to this point in the season. Yup. I think yeah. Yeah. They they really are. I think the Packers especially are disappointing. And this is not this is not good at Minnesota. When back and looks at the splits for Aaron Rodgers against Mike Zimmer not good not good at all. Aaron Rodgers risky Frene JR. Quarterback one. Davante Adams facing off with Xavier Rhodes, that's tough match-up Davante Adams you can win. But definitely enhances his risk. And then. Mark has vowed Scanlon this game is kind of tough too because we don't know about Randall Cobb, and we don't know about Jimmy Graham. You would be a great match for Jimmy Graham, if we knew he was gonna play, but we may not know if he's gonna play until like right before the gate, but the Vikings have been bad against tight ends this year Harrison Smith, I can never really get a good read on him. You know, sometimes I think he's great and other times, I'm not I'm not so sure. And then they've been missing Andrus and Deo there other safety. So. Things to keep in mind. As it pertains to the Packers tight end situation. If. Jimmy Graham does not play. We're looking at Robert Tanya n- and Lance kendricks Marseille's Lewis now, I know that Robert Tanya in scored a touchdown last week in projects admitted after the game that he thought he was throwing the ball to Jimmy Graham that Robert Tanya just kind of looked like Jimmy Graham, but Robert Robert Tanya n- scores the touchdown. And but that doesn't mean that you know, now he's a fantasy play. I mean. It's probably going to be a rotation time. Tanya did show some stuff in some things in in training camp. I remember like the beat writers talking you mop. And I was like I'll show plame in preseason DFS. And then I did and he didn't do anything. But he he's gonna probably just work in a rotation with the other two dues. So not real excited about the tight end situation. If we don't get Jimmy Graham, and it's again, it's a Sunday night game. So we're not gonna know is availability in all likelihood onto late on Sunday, which puts you in a bind from fantasy standpoint. Again, don't know about Cobb you'd away Mark has vowed a Scanlon is going to be the number two. He was pretty absent in the last week's game. There were a bunch of problems that occurred for the Packers that came out trying to run it. Then they didn't have the ball for long stretches. I mean, they they ran forty nine offensive plays, including penalties. That's you. You're you don't have the ball. When when you're running fewer than fifty plays a game on offense market has vowed has Scanlon played forty eight of the forty nine plays. But you know, the Enron was forcing it to devante atoms. I think that I like Marcus vowed skittling better at outside receiver at this point and slot receiver. You know, I don't know. He's still a young player. But I think that Randall Cobb coming back might actually help them by pushing to the outside, but he's a a boom bust wide receiver three. I think is the best way to put it. At this point Vikings. I think are in a great great spot. The the Packers are given up almost thirty points per game. If you just remove their two games against the bills and the dolphins in a specially on the road. They've been hemorrhaging points. The lowest the lowest that they've given up twenty seven through five road games. So that I think all that bodes well for the Vikings. Vikings can absolutely get on track this game when they played in week two was twenty nine or twenty nine round up as a tie. Kirk cousins went when berserk four touchdowns over four hundred yards. Digs went off feeling went off. You know? Rudolph never does anything. You which is frustrating. He's just a touchdown her bus guy. But cousins, you know feeling. And digs all awesome place. It is this game will be played indoors. You don't have to worry about whether you know, the totals pretty nice. So I think it's a good spot for the Vikings passing game to really get back on track really uneven performance at Soldier Field. Not that not that. That was surprising. I mean, we totally painted that. And they you know, they kinda did well to just lose by five, but I think that they get back cranking here, and then lots of questions, I always get about dalvin cook. Last week. I know that the fantasy bottom line was just about as bad as it gets, you know, ten total yards. But I liked the usage. I mean. Fifteen tushes to only four for latavius Murray. Dalvin cook played e eight percent of the snaps. Never expected him to have a big game against Chicago. And I think that he absolutely can have a big game against the Packers who have been bad against the run in her going to be without Mike Daniels can't stress this enough. How big of a loss this is for Green Bay, especially after they already lost Muhammad Wilkerson? I mean, they are they're they're they're in position to get run. All over so dalvin cook fire him up with confidence, you know, play him in daily fantasy if you can still do trades. You know, your trade deadline hasn't passed get him. I think this is a great opportunity to buy on dalvin cook. And that takes care of the Sunday night or. All right. The last game. It's the titans who totally laid eggs and Mario does banged up in Indy against the Texans. Who just keep finding ways to win. Even if they're not all that impressive doing it. Yeah. You know, the titans that was very disappointing performance last week against Indianapolis. We don't know if mariota's gonna play. And this is like might be related to his previous injury. I don't know. I gotta read Dr Chow more about the Marcus mariota injury. But man, I mean, you know, they are listening as an elbow. I I don't know. I I don't have anything. Great to say really about the titans. The Texans have been great in run defense all season long. That's notable facing Dion Lewis and Derrick Henry. Blaine gabbert is you know, she just takes the wind out of every all the passing game sales. If he ends up playing the matchup looks great on paper for Corey Davis. Y- you need mariota in there. You need them healthy and. Johnny smith. I mean again, you need mariota, Johnny. Smith has a great match up to end. We saw his targets. Finally, spike last week really was a promising game. But can't do this plane Gobber stuff cannot do it with with Wayne, Guibert toxins. I think that they are a great defense play. If we get Gobber really if we get married to to. I mean, you can bet against his health. You know, he's had really bad games where he's trying to play at less than one hundred percent. I just wish we could get a season and Marcus mariota where he would be healthy for the entire season. We could just see what he could do. And because you know, just e he's he's had a disappointing promising flash filled career. Lamar Miller retook the reins at running back last week ton a ton of work. That is is good matchup is not that good against the titans. But you wanna see that volume in a season long league? And he's a decent Rb to play. Because of it a Dory. Jackson had been balling out really really shutdown. Josh gorge in that week ten game. And then got rent circles around by t y Hilton last week, and it wasn't just you know, what you see in the box score because t y Hilton also drew a thirty five yard defensive pass interference flag against the Dory. Dory could not cover TY help this week and have to deal with the Andre Hopkins much different style of receiver. But you know, now also probably even a worse matchup for debris Jackson, who's like a smaller speed guy deandre Hopkins big physical route technician, I think that he can have a big game. No matter who's on him really wouldn't make sense for the the titans to just let Logan Ryan chase him. That's what the patriots used to do when they would play the under Hopkins had Logan Ryan they'd use Logan Ryan to shadow de'andre. Hopkins didn't always work out. But I think that would be the best option for the titans to the best route for titans to take in this game to Maria's Thomas zero catches last week. Don't even even Dickey saw target that. And you know, the first of all you have to understand that the Texans. Their pass attempts are way down k they are trying to play like ball control offense. They know that their offensive line is terrible. They know that that's not necessarily a good. They don't want to get their quarterback, Kurt, you know. Hey, they're seven and three right now, they when they need to keep their quarterback healthy they're playing making quarterback cannot have this do dropping back forty times a game. And so so the pass at times are not there in volume the under half Ken's is always going to get a big chunk of them. And then you get KiKi QT coming back, and he grabs what nine last week that didn't leave anything for Marius. I I would be you know, look the Texans are probably gonna script some stuff early in this game for two Marius. But when push comes to shove like deandre Hopkins is the one here on a low volume passing team. And that's that's not gonna that's gonna be bad news for the compliment complementary pass catchers, even KiKi t even though yet a solid game with five for seventy seven last week, not trustworthy against Tennessee. I do think that you're planning to Shawn Watson with relative confidence every week in or you're pretty much every week. He's been up and down to be sure. But in that that that rushing upside is always there with him. You're the big playability. So I think that he's a low end. 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NFL Week 3 Monday Night Football Betting Picks: Chicago Bears at Washington Redskins

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NFL Week 3 Monday Night Football Betting Picks: Chicago Bears at Washington Redskins

"That thou board. We never right. I bet you twenty bucks I can get you can't look for the end of the day. You only fifteen grand how they pay debts men his money. It's the board podcast really the end right back where I and I could still pick winners. I can still make money for all kinds of people back home and why mess up a good thing airs pain insider and todd welcome into the bet the board podcast. Nfl Week three Monday night football dishing jam packed show for or you like breakdown the game between the Redskins and bears later this evening plow some injury updates with Dr Chow some of those marquee names the national football league that'll be out for how long remains to be seen and of course recapping the good the bat and the ugly for what we saw before we get into all that. I am your host todd firm and join as always by my steam team colleague and Co host a man who needs no introduction the one the only pain insider Monday morning week three the grind is real my friend the grind find Israel yes. This is quite the grind three shows a week so I mean eventually this thing expands I mean I know you're going to look forward to like three hours. We treat it like good morning radio show right. That's what you're really itching for busy weekend in the National Football League always curious to get your thoughts paint as we get right out. I feel like it's a logical place to start with what we saw unfold on Sunday football. I know the national narrative is one thing when we do things very differently around here but more importantly we got off to the sluggish start. We expect it from those two teams. You gotTa love feel fast in the first half nothing wrong with slow start. You're nothing wrong with that at all what we expected. The national narrative is what Freddie kitchen stinks this morning and how could Israel has four thousand nine listening to Rex Ryan go bonkers. I'm going REX. There's a reason you're on TV and there's a reason Freddie's calling plays for the Cleveland Browns. Let's pump the brakes a little here big fellow now. It's looked a little different than last year without question. I think Freddie even admitted that a little bit. The offensive line's a train wreck. You don't have no joke. Go out there so you can't run a lot of two tight end sets at this point to help and protection. The route trees are of the Bruce Arians. Mindset is at no risk it no biscuit so that needs to change a little bit. Obviously I think you probably prefer run down around the goal line there with with with multiple timeouts at your disposal late in that game the fourth and nine. I'm not as tough on him for that. Call I do like the idea of going for it. The trying to deceive everyone it worked except wily old veteran Eric while he sniff that thing out immediately but if chubs chubs able to make Weddell Miss. It's a long run but we kind of mentioned this right. Freddie Kitchens was was awesome last year that was as an OC. I don't think there was anyone on the Freddie Kitchens bandwagon quicker than us but with the AFC podcast preview we dial back doc expectations had listened this is this is quite the hike right from tight end coach to head coach in less than a year. He's having trouble right. Now it kind of controlling everything around him. If you Kinda just stick them in a box and say hey designs offense call some plays. I think he's fine. It's it's everything else that he's dealing alling with right now and he seems to be a little bit overwhelmed. It'll be interesting to see the adjustments. He makes but again when you go out and get an. Ob Jay and you already have landry in Higgins ends is kind of taken that next step a really nice third option. It's tough to get out of eleven personnel especially when you have that aforementioned injury with joke you you just don't have the tight ends on the roster to play a lot of twelve so it'll be interesting how they make that shift. It's gotta be without concepts shortening those up a little bit to give Baker some easy throws and obviously not sit in the pocket forever but it's also on Baker a little bit you watch some of the alternatives holding onto the ball too long trying to create these as long dynamic plays when there's guys open underneath so it's a culmination of a lot of things happening on offense that it hasn't made it as successful as it was with Freddie towards the end the last this season we have seen the market react a little bit to the browns early season struggles. We'll get to that when we break down. Some of the headlines and market perception and power ratings have changed in in the eyes of oddsmakers but luckily every morning by at least as far as Mondays are concerned pain. We look back at the weekend and that was so you don't do this on Tuesdays. Maybe we can't hey if you can't if we want I mean I'm more than happy to send you sound bites if you want to listen to me droning on about what I saw and I went back and watch the game to try and dissect a little bit but because we are the happy go lucky people and people come to us as a bastion of light and hope after NFL weekends I WanNa start with what actually impressed you over the weekend in a positive. Is it a fashion well. Let's start with the obvious. This is the obvious one in Rudolph mation and did enough to get us to the window was ugly. That's a good Point v other guy that goes to the windows Daniel Jones and I this isn't surprising to me because if you remember I was my crotchety self when we're breaking down the giants with the preview podcasts I wanNA talk about the the offense if Eli Manning he's the quarterback. This gave us a glimmer of hope. Obviously you're on the road at your first start your trailing by eighteen in your most dynamic offensive offensive weapon in Saquon Barclays out second half so to me. It's impressive. You'll look with Jones did PAT. Shurmur didn't coddle the guy only two of US thirty six attempts attempts were behind the line of scrimmage. You look even further Daniel Johnson believe eight of his thirteen attempts that traveled eleven or more yards in the air. Two of them went for touchdowns downs. You look at the average completed air yards. Daniel Jones average the ninth most at eight yards so really aggressive but at the same time really accurate Britt completion percentage against the bucks defense that was fourth in overall defense defensive efficiency coming in was three and a half percent better than expectation so for me grow game from Daniel Jones obviously not just on the scoreboard but within the the box score within the metrics and you look just he didn't have benefit from a good ground game neither Barkley in Goldman twenty three yards on thirteen Russia's so this was literally Daniel Jones Shepherd Ingram and a mash unit basically glee everywhere else. Jones finished the game. The giants leading rusher four carries twenty two touchdowns. We saw him call his own number on the go ahead touchdown late and just look like a guy that showed a ton talk of poise in situations where very easily could a- crumbled. I mean you mentioned it down. Eighteen points elitist team back and the one thing for me pain and I know it's always hard to quantify. It sounds ridiculous because you get lost in narrative defeat the defense played with more life and there was actually a sense of confidence that Jones had this rallying factor whereas the body language that they get down seven points everybody everybody slumps and just things continue snowballs at just make no. That's usually what you see with an injection of a quarterback into the lineup right. Everyone else has got to step up around him. The young guys like Sterling Shepherd and Ingram kind of know at this point Daniel Jones is going to be their quarterback of the future so you get a little extra pep in your step there. Everyone announce does just a little bit more and then obviously this number will. It'll sound like Monday morning quarterback but I don't. I don't think the bucks are in a position to be laying seven to anybody. At this stage. I mean I love areas. They're going to be improved but that was just a really really tall number especially usually when you looked at a lot of the metrics for the giants and I know people think Eli got a raw deal. I'm of the mindset. He didn't get a raw deal overall but certainly if this was going going to be a move you're making after two weeks would have told them before the season and figure that situation out the offensive line wasn't specifically good against the bucks but they'd been pretty good throughout the first two games. That was something I heard. A lot of people talk about. This giants offense of line isn't any good wasn't great here in the bucks game but it was fantastic the first two weeks of the season so that performance can be what it looks like moving forward consistently. It's really GONNA help. Daniel Jones lost and all that Jack continues to be a force for the bucks defensively. We'll get to Bruce Syrians and the way he handled the game situation. I'm sure in just a matter of minutes. One quarterback performance pain that stuck out for me was the battle of former teammates kyle outdueling Kyle Murray very nine hundred twenty six four touchdowns two hundred sixty one yards obviously aided by one hundred eighty total yards from Christian McCaffrey but Carolina wait till no can't do they basically tell him hey take your time and get healthy and trust the kyle. Allen can replicate this there. Was this more a byproduct in your opinion of Arizona Defense. It isn't that good. You're probably a little of both Ryan and Kyle Allen got help from McCaffrey's. You kind of alluded to only ask the throat twenty six times but can you look at some of those numbers. Eight of the twenty. Six attempts were five yards and so it wasn't like he was he was coddled or anything like that. He did only attempt one explosive pass. It kind of goes to show you what would vance was doing there with a second. There is a lot of off coverage allowed Allen to hit some you know the short intermediate throws but I think Kylie on was very good. His average completed air yards seventh. Most this week accuracy was off. The charts completion percentage was nine percent better than expectation. I think the important thing here. Is You know we saw up. Carolina plus three even at plus two and a half. There was some sharp money on that side. Okay and I think when you're trying to assess the value of quarterbacks and a possible downgrade from the start of the back of his important to really think about who the starting in quarterback is in their production level current form okay current form. I think is really important because if you're basing cams value off you know this idea that he's the two thousand sixteen. Super Bowl quarterback who who made that run. You probably Arizona here if you gauged cam is the guy whose offensive coordinator right doesn't allow him to run on multiple short yardage situations the guy that has five carries for zero yards this season. You're drop optical. Allen wasn't much right because Kyle doesn't have that attribute of the legs but I think he's probably a better passer and right now. Cam doesn't have that attribute of the legs so the drop off wasn't that severe here now makes a ton of sense and I think a lot of people get lost in name recognition instead of paying attention in the productivity and what you're seeing if a guy's operating about sixty percent capacity you're not gonNa make a full adjusts and we talked about this number a little bit and how it moved five points at least to the naked I but when you're going through key numbers it's not a huge leap of faith for books to take you from two and a half point underdog to two and a half point favorite doesn't change the win probability that much as far ars other good performances pain now what else out you over the weekend. Jacoby percent very efficient a game again and he did it the entire second half without T. Y. Hilton again like processes and asked to like execute the impossible here Frank Reich very. QB Friendly Scheme Huby friendly game plan so again just e one explosive attempt five of percents twenty-eight attempts traveled more than ten yards in the air so it is this controlled environment for Graham so to speak but he was accurate. Completion percentage was four percent above expectation so I thought Jacoby perset was good again despite the the little steam there on on the screen for Atlanta in thing that was going to be the final say but the one thing to monitor here though is is the T. Y. Hilton injury no last Dr Chow that is important night thing because you know the colts are gonNA throw a lot of short stuff but you have to back off a little bit with guys like Paris Campbell and T. Y. Hilton. You can take the lid off defense all of a sudden. Ty Hilton's out for an extended stretch defenses can now squad on the short stuff a little bit more so that's going to be important to monitor their little bit yeah. I mean anyone who watched that game. The second can have the colts ran. A grand total of three offensive plays in the third quarter. Look by all accounts the falcons. We're GONNA amount comeback and I know we were texting a little bit going through. That was one hell of a drive to put together under winning needed. It most went out. There got themselves some separation. I'm able to get a big big home win holding on their late in the contest with the good pain they're also oh comes the bad and I think there are a couple of different directions. We can go. Not your want to differentiate between bad and ugly but I think we can go to Thursday night for me at least as far as the titans in they're pass protection. I know we talk a little bit about hey. Some of the onus falls on the line. Some of it falls on the quarterback. Marcus Mariota brought to the turf nine times in Jacksonville in that ugly offensive offensive effort against the Jaguars yet. It's not all on the Tennessee offensive line obviously without Taylor Lewan I mentioned on the AFC preview podcast about Jack Conklin. You know he's been dealing with injuries all aussies and threw three games. He hasn't been is normal dominant self. What Mariota's been horrific mark. He was the cause. I'm looking at these numbers. Now of nearly twenty percent of the pressures allowed through three games. He's ran himself into twenty. Five percent of the sacks allowed the titans through three games so you'll look at Maryland completion percentage well below expectation Arthur Smith the new. OC hasn't been very hey good. Pass the Cleveland opener right and I think this is probably going to go off on a little tangent here but it's important to note these guys are humans right so like guys like Arthur Smith or Zac Taylor and I think the list goes on the number first time head coaches and coordinators. We have in the league this year. It's the biggest job of of these guys lives so far so a game one for Arthur Smith or ZAC Taylor. They're prepared to the fullest extent right. They've had all off season to kind of make that for showing showing look electric rights that that time you get your best job you land your best job. The first day like you're ready to go. These guys had months to script those those opening drives multiple drives even right opposing defenses. Don't have the benefit of seeing or knowing what you're GONNA do because the film's limited then then what happens after the first game your stuff on film your prep time shrinks from an entire offseason to five or six days things go awry and I don't know why but I'm kind the thinking of this now. It's like that episode of Seinfeld dot where George can't go left like he's unable to to score because the situation where the girls position on the couch. He's a right hander can't go left. It's basically what Arthur Smith offense looks like the last two weeks like now that they kind of figured out what he wants to do. He doesn't have a backup plan and it's spend really ugly for the last two weeks. Ugly maybe a bit of an understatement and the titans they'll have their hands full as they go out on the road obvio- with extra time to prepare to take on the falcons. That's this coming. Sunday disappointed you from your full day watching over them up a little bit and for good reason but I think it's only only fair if we talk about Lamar Jackson as as probably bad for week three certainly betters are happy with them with those in the late heroics there but you look Baltimore trailed by seventeen on two different occasions. You look at his completion percentage. It was ten percent below expectation despite facing a chief secondary that's probably below average not only in the sum of its parts but but metrically through the first two weeks as well. Casey was forty nine percent of passes degrade successful so not very good for the more passing the ball he had the largest discrepancy of any quarterback in the NFL this week in terms of average intended air yards per pass versus average air yards per completion so again and I think he's obviously far better than the national media things he is some but wasn't very good in week three and I think I still have this in the back of my mind that says hey don't forget the fact that in the eleven games that Lamar started in the nfl he's only faced three defenses that ranked above league average and defensive efficiency over those eleven starts so something to continue to monitor as the season moves on your definitely was interesting you performance and then I don't WanNa. Call it bad or ugly or anything by any of that stretch. I know John Harbaugh a ton of criticism electing go for a number of times taking that aggro aggressive approach going for it on fourth down not sure because we obviously didn't chat in great detail before jumping on here. Do you have a chance to watch that game. I'm always curious to get your take in terms of John Harbaugh's approach basically saying hey look we know we have to go out there and score play for I play with chiefs but do you think he made the right decisions and a lot of situations early on I prefer kicking the but my understanding coming into into the game was they were going to be super aggressive and obviously when you have a chiefs defense who again was a little bit better against the run the first two weeks than they were her last season. You do have the more you have a situation where you need to yards. He's electric with his feet. The other aspect here was the weather was predictably about to roll in at three o'clock so was there was this long discussion of. Let's try to get as many points on the board before the weather gets ugly here at three o'clock so so that was part of the decision making process but again once you missed that opening to you start playing chase a little bit. I don't mind the aggressive approach ever right. I think I'm probably the only guy that was praising raising Frank Reich last year for not wanting a push and overtime and going forward on like four thousand six in his own end during overtime so I I'm okay with being aggressive. There just needs to to be a little bit better execution but again that opening kicked the point after there so you don't have to chase the rest of the way but again the mindset going into the game we knew was is going to be of aggression. When you face the Kansas City chiefs offense. That's electric and you know your secondary has some question marks and then again that added element of the weather rolling in at three o'clock really forced harbaugh the I want to be aggressive your last thing we look ugly performances over the weekend. I never want to be too critical on a quarterback making his first start and I don't think he deserves a lion. Share the blame. The steelers forty niners game as you mentioned the steelers able to get us to the window as seven point underdogs on the by six six and a half kind of the consensus. This is a team that average aw a shade under five yards per play four point seven and it's a late James Connor fumble. Y- can't lose football games. I don't care where they're played at home on the road or on the Goddamn Moon when when you finish plus three in the turnover department force what four of them in the first half and going to the break up six three the right team won that game the team has more deserving serving won that game and certainly a positive for my dolphins as the steelers continue to rack up losses and that's GONNA be a tough one to overcome right because the whole sales pitch pitch this week was we went out and got me. It's Patrick. We traded away our first round pick for him. We have faith in Mason Rudolph and that was the et rallying cry that was the rallying point all week and so when you come away with a loss and and honestly you look at the yards per play metrics tricks you look at how that game unfolded. San Francisco probably should have covered that game with these so now you're back home Monday night against Cincinnati Interagency what this vibe looks like like for the steelers now to Mason's credit hit a couple of explosive passes his aggressiveness rating was the highest of any quarterback this this week in week three so he certainly got the confidence. He just needs to be a little bit. More accurate needs to be a little bit better decision maker the interception there on the opening joining drive of the third quarter was horrific not sure what he what he saw there but you evil looks somewhat competent now. Let's see what it looks like now. Teams have film on Him. A little bit here does have the extended rest there with Monday night so hopefully they implement a little bit more into the game plan form this week so it'll be interesting to see in monitor. I think he's is capable. He's obviously not big. Ben In his prime but let's see let's see what it looks like against. Cincinnati one last thing and then we'll head onto some of the look headlines over out there wanted gotta get your take paint on the Green Bay packers. It feels for the second time in as many weeks the offense started like a house on fire Aaron Rodgers with the aggressive play call to lamarcus Valdez Gatling gets them off to a seven nothing lead but yet again the Green Bay offense after the initial script wears off and whether you WanNa call fifteen or thirty plays however mouth the floor structures it it seemed the tail off and there's some real concerns at least for me when I watch the packers that this team either can't make adjustments or there's something going on you look at an offense over the second third and fourth headquarters right now ranking thirty National Football League you know a lot of smoke and mirrors so far but you are three and with a a new head coach a new system a new scheme so you're in a great spot right. It's it's winning while you're learning hopefully and come the middle of the season. You've got not got enough wins and you start to progress a little bit. The opening touchdown there was just Aaron Rodgers being heroic right being smart seeing the guy jump jump-off sides like he does so many times and just air it out and while the scaling just beats his man first quarter green bay average nine yards per play it did tick kick down throughout the rest of the three quarters but in saying that the average one point eight yards per play the Denver did passing wise Green Bay average eight point one yards per pass for the game. Denver just four point six so it was certainly a game they deserve to win. It was a game where they cover the number. Despite some some sharp money on Denver so to me they they obviously exceeded Vegas expectation and I think my expectations -tations while knowing who was on the broncos well the reason I mentioned the packers because we'll have an in-depth free of the packers next game short week when they host to the much-maligned minded banged up Philadelphia Eagles and pain when you look at some of the look ahead numbers here those numbers at the packers listed as a two and a half point favorite Lo and behold you wake up this morning and I know that at number didn't include a cluster injuries Philadelphia dealing with the packers all the way out to a five point favorite moved a little more than this morning yeah yeah it ticked up a shade from four and a half out of the dead zone five okay so you know obviously massive game for the Eagles one in three would would certainly be a surprise half the monitor the situation obviously on that that cluster injury to the receiver core so both alshon Sean Jackson. You're GONNA just have to keep a close eye on that. Whence it's clear he's missed those two guys right. He missed him again this past Sunday the metrics look okay completion percentage not good title right thirteen percent below expectation only better than Josh Rosen for week three but again green bay three now despite having a ton of issues if you can negate that opening script from leflore and Rogers. It seems like you're going to have a pretty good chance here but we'll see what we get from Philadelphia's office defense two lines beaten and battered a little bit. We know about some of the injuries upfront. Cox is also playing through some injuries so interesting the line. Let's see where it goes one that we'll obviously talk about in in really really large detailed because it's Thursday night and of course as I say that number now painted four and a half trending towards four but plenty of seventy two hours to digest aware that number Gill and what's going to happen with our we talked a little bit about the browns and what that particular number means. I know this price isn't widely available. Oh but you look ahead number you had the ravens about three and a half point favorite that number most locations out to five and a half a secondary key number it blows through obviously being the four yeah you kind of alluded to at the top nothing but doom and gloom this morning on on social media TV in regards to the Browns listen so this game I think is pretty simple. It comes down to how well the browns line protects Baker in the way the Freddie Kitchens calls offense. You know last season it just it was different. Freddie was only the Oh seen play caller. It looked different and felt different. WHO's more efficient. Even Freddie admitted that it's looked a lot different and it is a little well different this season in his post-game Presser. We just need to see is I kind of mentioned. More quick passes more formations with running backs and tight ends helping protect and chip and again. It's tougher to do with joke who out it kind of hinders Freddie's ability to get away from from that eleven personnel route combinations again need to shorten a little bit but we've seen cuyler and obviously mahomes torch the Baltimore secondary the last two weeks without Jimmy Smith in young so there's GonNa be some opportunity there will also have to monitor the the injuries in the browns secondary because they were playing with four new guys for Sunday night football another another on get into the window with a first-half hundred ticket when you have a bunch of guys kitten called up getting serious burn in the browns secondary for the first of the strategic -ness of of what was was taking place there offensively for Cleveland was going to be more controlled. It was going to be a lot more running. That was what they were talking about all week. GOING SLOWER PACE wise to protect detect that secondary network worked like a charm getting nick involved to edit pretty productive day chiefs on the road at the heart for me to say undefeated. Detroit Lions look ahead number here four and a half this number trending towards a full touchdown having a really hard time hard time hard time in general zero this morning if such. I'm worried about you over there. I don't know what the lions are right. Now you blow a game that you should win against Arizona. you pick up a win against the chargers. You don't really deserve megaton of timely plays. I think to pull the upset against Philadelphia Matchup wise you think carrying on probably we had some success here obviously a a road Oughta conference game for for the chiefs the look headline though is a little short micorn number says the sharper shops are spot on at six and a half so first thing Monday morning. I haven't dug into this game totally at matchup wise information wise injury wise yet to see if there's going to be value value with the core number. I thought six and a half was pretty good. Look ahead number had seattle about three point favorite. You did have to lay a little bit of juice with them. On the road against Arizona we see the cardinals drop a thirty eight twenty decision to Carolina. Seattle pretty much dominates as far as the box scores concerned against the saints despite despite not getting any momentum place and this number full point out to four your bottom line. I think Brian Schottenheimer needs to figure out how to get his offensive script talk to be a little bit better because Seattle has not gotten out too fast starts at all and you know you look through three weeks. Seven first quarter quarter points. That's it but I think the market has gotten a little bit more sophisticated obviously over the years so you see. Seattle loses that they outgained New Orleans by two hundred and fifty arts they give up a special teams touchdown defensive touchdown and so that's partly why we're seeing this number balloon out a little bit big game name for Arizona here but I want to see what the offense looks like because I was really happy with what they did at Baltimore Kings very you. Just you know a lot more motion a lot. More you know pre snap stuff to fool the defense. I didn't see all that again at home against Carolina which was really really really odd so for whatever reason I think this is the big misconception right when we get these offensive googlers involved right air quotes there. We just assume that you know going four wide and chucking the ball deep. Is this elaborate offense that it's this greatly schemed offense. It's not now in two thousand nineteen. It's real easy. Defense defend like three and four wide if you're not overly sophisticated and what you're doing which I was. I was again a little disappointed seeing Kingsbury with with the pre snap motion how he was getting guys. The Ball Against Carolina was fantastic against Baltimore. Hopefully that's the the offense we see against Seattle. I think it'll be needed here and last but not least I football sees the cowboys on the road number as you mentioned the Saints Win The game but they get outstanding in pretty much every single category see the cowboys go from a two and a half point road favorite out to fulfill yeah in in where where reopened at some of the sharper shops was three and a half and all the hooks are starting to disappear a little bit which is interesting obviously. New Orleans I think has revenge from last this season from that Thursday night game but our listeners know by now. I am significantly higher on Dallas than just about anybody. I'm not as high in teddy bridgewater the winning in Seattle kind of felt like this all in effort right. You're staying on the West Coast. You're doing lots of team. Building in bonding you listen to the players after the press conference right and it's just like it was a sense of relief. My core makes this game three. I just wonder if come Sunday night. Books are going to be forced to adjust this number. I Tek higher because you know you have three now. America's team going up against a backup quarterback. I know the environment will be rocking but books. You'RE GONNA have an interesting time navigating that key number. I think Sunday night well. We saw something that we haven't really seen in the past happened last night. During Sunday night football I know we have Dr Chow waiting in the wings. Would you help contextualize some of the headlines and where these numbers will oh but pain. I can't really remember primetime game where you saw a point spread blow through a key number like the rams did last night from three and not have any resistance some of the more recreational shops out here in the desert ultimately close four and a half on that contest. I don't know if we'll see a similar scenario with the cowboys and saints but at least it showed the books willingness to be somewhat aggressive. Yes early on in the week. There was some sharp money on the rams below the three once we got to like three three and a half it was tough to get the public off that side and we did see go to four and a half there was again a touch hutch of resistance at four and a half a couple shops went back to four but you're right. It ultimately closed four and a half five. I know I don't know why five isn't really key number but you heard a couple of the oddsmakers that are on social media. Say you know talk about five. We came back. This will be a similar situation. I would have to think where we see the public on one side and they're dying for Teddy Bridgewater money comes on at night it of course be the game we talk about in greater detail on the Thursday podcast but plenty of things to do before we get there including figuring out the injury impact to some major marquis stars I when injuries occur in the NFL. There's only one man turn to still play tinge. Let's check in with seventeen year. NFL team doctor turned medical analyst David. Shell so you heard this is Charles Corner when it comes injury information. There's only one place we like to go on Monday morning and you can followed doctor. David Chow on twitter at profootballtalk extensive experience and one of the Best Game Day follows for real time information updates and Dr Chung. Yeah we start with players got asked re surprised P carols able to give it a go on the sidelines for the Seattle seahawks yesterday. He's toughing it out there. Although you know obviously that's got hurt their you know ball off the nose. I think most people saw saw the videotape and he couldn't get stitches even had to be taped because I'm sure it's a very jagged install a type explosion type injury and you could see it was still bleeding during the game but I'm GonNa date myself there. I kept thinking Marcia Brady when I looking at the paint tells me all the time. You know what I don't get up in the morning. I'm ready to podcast and I have a soft tissue. Injury tells me to rub some dirt on it so it's good to see pete out there little butterfly get things going. Although watching that performance he might have been happier had he decided to actually get stitched up and stay in hospital but all joking aside one of the biggest names games in the national football league not only impact on the field but also fantasy purposes saquon. Barkley ankle injury was seen in a walking boot on crutches. The initial report Lord is a high ankle sprain. I wasn't sure if you thought any differently and what does that mean to the prognosis and went giants can expect to have him back football. It is absolutely a high title spraying and at the new website. I actually had video describing how it was in game. It actually called it a high ankle sprain before he came back out on the sideline with the coaches and a boot and he's going to miss several weeks as a result of this emery is gonNA show a spring in his ligament. I don't think it's going to need surgery but at at least a moderate variety high ankle sprain which I think is worse than the one he had as a freshman at Penn state where he missed two games. He's not returning in September. Obviously he's he's going to. Let's hope for a late October. Return maybe October twentieth might be the target for him on the good side. It might leak a little longer given his position addition to. I mean look at Nick Bosa. He struggled to come back to early from from a high school spring different position obviously. Aj Greens eight weeks so far but I don't think it's as bad as AJ green positive news there for giants fans and I want to ask you one more question about a `nother dynamic offensive weapon with the Indianapolis Colts and that's T. Y. Hilton didn't return in the second half with a quad injury. It's one he's been battling with if you listen to him in the post game. He said he knew he tweeted. Did any wouldn't be back for the second half so he wanted to finish that last drive in the first half to get seven they did that but what does it look like longterm for T. Y. Hilton in the quad injury yeah you gotTa handed the T. Y. Hilton and use as you guys know. He's played through a lot of injuries including last year. All this ankle stuff not practiced all week and still performed and so here this time. It's quad hopefully quad muscle. That's where the rap and the ice was and after his touchdown catch right before the end of the first half you saw me. We never went back to the bench. She just signaled to the sideline like a I'm. I'm headed to the locker room right now and you knew kind of he was done at this point. In time I think with the muscle injury the fact that he knew he had to get the second half of the game. Next week is pretty iffy here. It could be a week or two even though he always seems to exceed estimates in terms of return and comeback earlier. I think they don't WanNa. Turn this into a long term thing so he might be down for a week or two but we'll have to look at the reports going going forward. No surgery season not done us great ability to play through but this one might cost a little bit of time another receiver. I WanNa ask you about is Julian Edelman there. There were some conflicting reports. Some people thought it was just it looks to be a rib cartilage injury there another. MRI Today here in a little bit what does does it look like for Julian Edelman and obviously we know that's a position. It's a little bit more valuable now with Antonio Brown gone. Oh absolutely and fuelling almond all along to me look like a rib injury and we talked about the medical term was costal conjul cartilage rib cartilage tillage or soft cartilage of the RIB injury. That's why the x rays were negative. Yes the the Patriots reported as a chest injury which is proper. It's chest wall. It's not improper but when he when it was reported as chest and he didn't come out on the sideline for the second half. I think there was a lot of angst that maybe there was internal organ organ damage or otherwise. I never thought so and it seems right right now that there isn't any report of that and it makes sense now. There's an MRI or something coming to look at the RIB cartilage cartilage bear in mind rib. Cartilage injuries are more painful than rib fractures. I know that sounds twenty but that is true but there's still ways to block it still ways to get them to go my my best expectation on Julian Element. Is that he's going to not practice this week but he's still going to be available for the game this weekend interesting news there. That'd be good is tough guy. We know that last one I want to ask you about. It's on the defensive side of the ball. Kiana Neil another injury to Dan Quinn's defence defense looks like an Achilles injury. Preliminary reports are it's torn. What do we make of that. Injury was at compensation or was their connection to the ACL. Oh possibly well you know such bad luck for him and everyone has to feel for the guy you know the tears he knew it immediately and yes as a player you can know that's bad because when you tear your chillis also you can't push off you can't even quote step on the gas pedal so to speak a pusher foot down and you know that it's torn and and I think that's the emotion that he was feeling he tours. ACL In the first game last season and now another early season injury yes thoughts and paying same side the Achilles. It's the same side as the acl the dreaded as and he's got both on the same side. Is there scientific absolute proof that they're linked no but there's certainly is a tendency for compensation. These injuries no different than than let's say last year. Dalvin Cook with the same side hamstring after his. ACL RONALD RB this year with the hamstring after coming off as ACL and I think there is some compensatory mechanism there so that's too bad for Kiana. Neil always toughen if you see an impactful player not lose not one season two seasons especially. If there is anything connecting all of that one of the big terms Dr Chow that we use on this podcast pains hanes great about educating our listenership is with cluster injuries and there was no greater illustration than a team that dealt with that this past week and then the Philadelphia Eagles who saw themselves go from a touchdown down favorite down to a four point before losing outright to the Detroit Lions quick turnaround for the Eagles on the road against the packers we know they missed a number of contributors both on the offensive in defensive side. What's the prognosis look like in your eyes for the potential to get any of those players back in the fold on a short week well. We've talked all season about how the DB's ABC's are short on the eagles. They started the season that way and now Ronald Darby is mentioned is out with a hamstring. He's GonNa miss some time off the same coming off. ACL as well their linebackers still out there down a couple of guys in the D. Line and even last night in addition to the Jeffries Sean Jackson being down in God or not being able to contribute anything their backup left tackle went down Andre Dillard. What looks like a Multi Week Mc L. Sprang to his knee and Jason Peters was ill so the the only good news for Thursday as you can hope Jason Peters can get over his illness. I would expect that other than add all these other guys. I don't see them turning the corner so they're going to continue and you make a great point of cluster injuries for people who watch the game you can end it over. The injury. Index that said all along with the I'm not saying Detroit was the right side. I'm just saying the eagles those were injured and obviously Detroit had some players. Come back with Dr Davis a key player in the League decker left tackle but there was a special teams touchdown and you could say well. That's a fluke without that special teams touchdown. You know it might have been a different game but it's not a fluke. It's all related to the cluster injuries. You're talking about Mac Collins. The backup wide receiver told my gear follow look. I like it when I just concentrate on special teams. Look when Matt Collins Collins is only place playing special teams. He concentrates on special teams. When you have second-stringers specialty was elevated starters whether the defensive backfield or wide receivers otherwise their attention gets diverted from from special teams named their energy is devoted to regular down snaps and special teams comes their rest periods so it's not a shock that agnew's able to return a kick for a touchdown when that happens? Abbott and that also has to do with cluster injuries pain. That's kind of the reason you tell me. I'm not allowed to focus on anything but football because you were. I'll be distracted if I have anything else going on in my life during the fall right no question about it into Dr Charles Point special teams was actually weakness of the Detroit lions the first two games so things flip-flop. They're it crucial return touchdown for Agni which Kinda swung momentum back early in their favor gave Detroit a leg up that they would never relinquish and getting a big road victory. You can follow Dr David Chow on twitter at pro football doc like I said one of the best follows on game they give you real time in for injury information that can impact some of your decisions for fantasy Hennessy lineups and otherwise Dr Chow can't think enough for your time this morning and look forward to doing it again. Same time next week goes appreciate you well that at least sounds pain like Daniel Jones. Rookie campaign is going to be that much more difficult if he doesn't have the services of one SAQUON Barkley behind him tough to navigate without Barkley but he did a good job against the buccaneers defense. It'll be interesting to see if Wayne Gaughman can shoulder a little bit of that low but certainly makes Daniel Jones job much tougher without his most dynamic weapon in the backfield that is for sure and of course the giants will face off with the Washington redskins team. We'll see on full display this evening. In the nation's capital where the redskins skins enter the contest is a five five and a half point underdog total on the Game Forty One as the Bears Coma Colin paying last year the bears won one game by a grant by over for seven excuse me by more than seven points and it was that debacle against Buffalo that I think all of us have kind of scraped from our memories and when you look at the redskins not exactly a ringing endorsement for how they performed on Monday night football since nineteen ninety eight the skins are a stunning one in sixteen at home and the numbers against the spread of those don't get much better we can go all the way back to nineteen ninety-three historical sample size it has absolutely no relevance on tonight but still fun to discuss eight twenty six straight up ten and twenty four against the spread when playing on Monday night a football so I guess the first question I have for you is can Mitchell trubisky shake some of those demons and feast on this redskins defense. You're right mark rippin urban in art monk or not walking through that door tonight. I don't believe that is a very good point and you're not gonNA have a tenacious redskins defense living in that bears backfield at least that would be led to believe leaf listen. We kind of saw this coming for Sqi. Let's be nice yet. He had a couple apple big throws on the game winning drive at Denver. There just needs to be more consistency right and there needs to be more production from from sure becky defense defense is right now or are squatting on this offense their daring Mitch to beat them and their daring and beat them deep and if you look at some of these numbers. UC Y. is completed Six of his twenty-nine throws that have traveled beyond ten yards got thirty two passer rating on those same thrifts. He has been wildly wildly inaccurate God. That's the nicest way I can put this. That was very gentle. Twenty eight percent of trubisky seventy two pass attempts of graded out as being uncatchable catchable. That's the second highest percentage among qualifying quarterbacks the positive. I guess if we're trying to spend it that way for match you look at the redskins defense they have allowed eighty six percent of short intermediate throws to be completed and so yeah that's kind of where he's lived. That's kind of where the Matt Nagy offense lives a little bet with those short intermediate throw so hopefully that will build trubisky's confidence here. The other thing we've seen is the Washington front seven which many of us thought would be the strength of the team has been not very good right twenty eight percent pressure rate through two data points thirtieth and sack rate. It's been very disappointing for the redskins defense in Greg Muskie the front seven. I just thought was going to be so much better in addition to not being able to get pressure right. You're looking at team. That's been bullied around in the trenches a little bit sixty percent of runs of graded successful against them. That's dead last in the NFL to eleven percent worse than league the average. They've given up ten explosive runs secondary hasn't been much better Josh Norman good grief. I mean come redskins secondary's Mary's lot fifty eight percent of paths degrade successful at second worst now. If you're a Washington fan I think there is some noise a little bit in those numbers right. You faced as the cowboys. They have a fantastic line. They have the most efficient offense so far you face the eagles offense. I I know they're wanting to but the offense is is still good. The line still well above average. The bears offense is likely a step down so I think that's big also looks like Washington is going to have some reinforcements ends on defense. They get Jonathan Allen back fully participated in Saturday's practice so I think that's that's a big back here. I WANNA see how the browns attack attack a little bit. Maybe you get David. Montgomery involved a little bit more the first game I think he had seven touches second game against Denver had nineteen. I think that's probably where he needs needs to live whether it's catching the ball a little bit more out of the backfield like we saw him do in the Green Bay game. That was a fantastic catch. That was an explosive pass. Get Him going in that regard as well so this is a guy that probably needs to have fifteen to twenty touches a game running or out of catching out of the backfield. I think it's just much smarter to keep them closer to that second game. MM touch rate trubisky's been pressured. I don't WanNa say significant amount because it hasn't benches thirty two percentage dropbox so it's a normal rate. I think that's an amount you can live with. It's not totally on the line. You look at trubisky himself. He's been credited with allowing five pressures and three sacks so he needs to be better mentally right and this is a question mark that we've had about trubisky as well get things setup pre-snap be able to identify what's going on priests napster. You can shift your protections. You can audible to a play. That's GonNa be a little bit more conducive to success right rather than you know run yourself into a sack step up into the pocket and either take off off or connect on a throw. These are the issues I think trubisky's having and it's not just the inaccuracy when he's throwing but some of the mental decisions pre-snap as well that that he's going to need to get rectified rectified here along the offensive line. We want to monitor Kyle Long. I know he traveled with the team. He had limited practice on Wednesday. Thursday and Friday Arctic did not practice on Saturday so that's one to monitor but I do know he traveled so that would be a big loss if he's not there at left guard as well definitely hurts when you look at this redskins his defense as you mentioned hasn't exactly past opening two tests with flying colors surrendering six point seven yards per play which is bottom of the barrel and there aren't a whole lot of other stats to provide a silver lining as far as what kind of resistance is defense can off offer up even against the bears offense. It's much maligned and if you read some of these bears comments and quotes. I'm not sure I necessarily buy into it. I may take it with a grain of salt. You know basically saying that they're extremely close to finally exploding and having that signature game comes from Mitchell trubisky himself self to recall on a variety of other players but we look on the other side of the ball paint clearly its strength on strength relatively speaking the bears defense has been as good as advertised is coming into the campaign getting pressure showing that they haven't really missed a beat meanwhile the Redskins we know they're extremely one dimensional case keenum six hundred yards passing so far this season five five touchdowns sixty nine percent completion percentage and a passer rating north of one eleven but if you're one dimensional against the Chicago defense and they don't have to really respect any threat of a run game him with a ninety seven year old Adrian Peterson toting the rock. How difficult a task how difficult a task does it make it for the Redskins to consistently sustain drives tonight well? I think you need to have some semblance of balance on offense right and this isn't surprising though you know the offensive line for Washington was a question mark coming into the season. They're they're not creating a enough space in the ground game twenty-ninth adjusted line yards. No push no lanes. It's been really bad in you. See through or two games. GRUDEN's only called thirty runs eleven of them have graded successful. It's like twelve percent on average below league average. It's it's clear they. Miss Trent Williams at left tackle. Donald Penn is filled in there. I mean you had a much better second game than he did on the road in the Philly opener but right now you look when when the redskins are attempting to run over left tackle the success rate of those runs as forty eight percent below league average so that's not very good. I don't think case keenum's the guy that you're going to be able to rely on every single game chucking at around the park. He's actually been a pleasant surprise and you're still Owen too right so he needs some help here. I think if you can get the ground game going. We've kind of talked about this. You don't necessarily need an effective ground game to use play action but it certainly would help. I think it certainly would help GRUDEN's confidence in calling play action when things going a little bit better on the ground right now keenum's only throwing with a play fake element like nineteen percent of the time he has hit. Some explosive plays out of play action but it's it's not been awesome there either so. I don't know if that's the thing that's going to solve everything because keenum's completion percentages eight percent less when using play action I guess you would want a target just looking at this early on again. It's only two data points. Teams have had some success using their tight ends. They've given up fifteen fifteen receptions on nineteen targets. The bears defense has to two tight ends a nine yards per reception on average and a touchdown. Obviously this would be a great game for for Jordan. Reed to be in east allow out so maybe it's Vernon Davis. He is available. He looks like he still athletic and fast enough to contribute here ear so maybe that's someone you focus on the other thing. Here is why you want to establish the ground game just a little bit and I'm not it's two thousand nineteen so you gotta be passed. I try to wear these guys out on defense right. I know they've had an extra day of rest but you think about bears in general on that side of the ball eighty five snaps defensively offensively at altitude and Denver if you can somehow maybe go a little bit of pace if you're Washington. Get the ground game going be a little bit more physical Michael with them. It may have some impact late in the game Chris Thompson Game Baby Chris Thompson. Get Him involved my guy. He's a Lebron. Just give them the bone John Space. He's very efficient very effective. I mean good hands really if you watched watch. The last few years has been a vital part of their offense. I wish he was on a little bit better team because he's a dynamic playmaker but again it would be smart of Gruden and I'm not saying he's he's overly smart right because there's it's this this mental had gained battle. Do I WANNA go tempo and create more plays which hurts me against stay better team right long-term. The better team should want more plays at the same time again. You Look eighty-five snaps in altitude for that Brown's for that bears defense. Would it be smart to maybe go little tempo. That's going to be the battle GRUDEN. Hasn't I'm really intrigued to see which option he chooses tonight one last thing and it doesn't necessarily pertain tonight but I'm always curious curious to get your philosophical because I'm sure it's going to grab national headlines. It popped up a number of times and I did my reading on this. Does Daniel Jones performance for the giants pain expedite the redskins desire to see what they have in Dwayne Haskins if they were to lose tonight against the Chicago bears listen. I'm kind of someone. That's a focuses on what I do not really when anyone else's doing yet so if you're making decisions based on that. I think think you're probably not the right head coach for this job that said there is a need. I would believe at some point to figure out what you have in Dwayne askins because the quarterback crop coming out this next draft is really good so you need to find out if dwayne competent if he's capable if if he's your guy moving forward now you spend the first round pick on them. You would think there's GonNa be some leeway there. The battle that's going on here though right GRUDEN's and fighting for his life right now right. If you somehow go foreign twelve this year you're likely losing your job so that's going to be part of this decision. Asian making process you would think the GM ownership probably going to have a little say in whose quarterback throughout the course of the year I've maintained for a long time though if you can have signs of potential with Haskins and we've already seen it from McLaren receiver these guys now that are under your wing wing that you could sell as hoped moving forward will be an interesting debate though 'cause case keenum isn't that dude despite the early start or the very good start early on and I WanNa see what Haskins hazardous should be interesting to see how long this goes because there is potential there next week with saquon down to pick up a win. Yeah no doubt about it. We'll see how the redskins perform a great test for them. Defensively at home talked about some of their futility at Monday night football whether it's a trend whether it's cause for concern we'll see on full display against the bears offense intent on getting on track special thanks to Dr David Chow joins US every Monday to give context context about the biggest injuries and the game when we can expect some of the biggest names to be back out there on the field not only for a wagering perspective but also on the fantasy side pain. I put a bow on week. Three final parting shots any words of wisdom before we get out of dodge. No nothing nothing for me on tonight's game Tom was a little early sharp money on the under at forty two and a half and forty two. I even saw some come in at forty one and a half again not not for me because of how the Washington defenses looked and then the potential idea of Gruden using some tempo but we do obviously have action on this game right and if you've been a loyal listener and most of you are at this point you listen to the offseason podcast the NFC preview podcast where we gave out Washington under six and a half win so we do have have a rooting interest tonight that the bears with the victory here definitely the kind of games. 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Week 3 Buy or Sell + Trending or Ending, Beard vs Mustache - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/23

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Week 3 Buy or Sell + Trending or Ending, Beard vs Mustache - Fantasy Football Podcast for 9/23

"Jeremy. McKinnon running back San Francisco Forty niners you're listening to the fantasy footballers podcast. To, the fantasy footballers podcast with your hose Andy Holloway Jason More and my grades. Welcome in. Wednesday. September twenty third. You know it's GonNa be a great day. When you can. Finally, bust out a Jerick McKinnon player Intro for the fantasy footballers that win win. Four years old feels like it. I mean it must have been after he signed with. The first year he signed with them got to interview him in person that was a that was a fun one. He was on the path to being a my guy, which is why I did the interview and then that path was taken away due to injury and he's back baby he's. Interview is somewhere isn't it? Yeah somewhere when I said. Boy Straw strong. It's on the Internet somewhere who knows welcome into the show Heading into week three. Got A great question. Some buy sell some news, some trending or ending Thursday night preview. This is too much brooks. It's just too much no way we have to cut something now. Okay we'll do it all those are strong orders from the judge from the judge. At the ballers on twitter quick question of the day actually came in from my nine year old son who has turned it up a notch. When it comes to his fantasy accurate in your number two. He was I was walking through the House and he said Hey Dad Hey dad. If you had all the information from week one week two. Before the draft, who's the number one pick in the drafting and I? Had to think about it a little bit. I feel like it's pretty easy but it's a to to me I know horse race. Yeah and I can't imagine picking someone other than one of these two players. So I don't know if it differs from you Mike, you know who yours so andy will we'll kick the question right back to you. Since we know hours WHO's your number one pick Well. His answer, the nine year olds was Aaron Jones. After because he's in new. York makes sense makes sense He's in I think Alvin Kamara. It's and this is with the information of Barclays Gone McCaffrey's Harare the next six weeks and You know I guess the answer could Zeke based on him being healthy and other to being out of the way but those are the two for me. It has to be between Zeke and Alvin Kamara as much as Christian. McCaffrey is great and would still be a first rounder you're missing you know if you were to draft from this point on. I would not take him over Zeke who's been awesome. Yeah. But he doesn't really give you those superseding games and Kamerhe who's just been truly Super Camaro to start the season I think I would go album. Chimera I'll go for the ceiling. Yeah. Well, first off I, mean this is some unbelievable nepotism that has creeped into our show allowing your my son your son to steal our quick question of the day I thought it was so good. Good. Question. This is what we do at this point your two weeks go. What happened it'd be too easily. Alvin. Kamara, because as soon as Michael Thomas Wind, Dow you who's the biggest benefactor you play the game of which receivers are going to be. Right. Now looks like drake. Wants. Smith. But we all knew it's Alvin. Kamara is the is the answer he's going to get checked down too far more frequently because he's going to take most of those Michael Thomas targets throw in the fact that the first and second players off the board in drafts at a month ago are now missing time it. It easily becomes Alvin Kamara to me. I would add in a dash of how latavius Murray look a little roll, which is bad really how man didn't look. Bad Oh he he looks to me like he is definitely a step slow. Really that's just my eyeballs. It's because it's the one two punch and you're comparing him to Chimera where it's not just like Maryland General spry. Yes. Healthy. It's not just in general. You Watch him and you say this guy's washed it's just every time they give the ball to him you go up Kamera would have now gotten five more yards. We were a bit concerned about the regression touchdown regression for Aaron Jones coming into the season. We were not putting him in that upper echelon. He sits as the number one fantasy running back through two weeks, which begs the question. Are we disrespecting him again here? Not, even considering them in this question I I don't believe so. Because of the the way that the points came that is that is not a sustainable model for fantasy football. Last year, you're saying no last week. The way where he went off of on the snaps that he got on the opportunities that he received he. He may have been disrespected in the draft process of. When you know we got to the point of his Aaron Jones. Really I feel like that's really what we said. During the draft process and you said it through how do we? Want to double down on it. Then that's that's fine but that's not the way I play the game. Yeah. I mean I I would not draft Aaron Jones even third he's been phenomenal. He is the Guy I don't think the touchdown regression. That we were championing is all that scary right now obviously, you're feeling good about Aaron Jones couple of weeks and I've got some shares of of Aaron Jones. But if you look at what he did last year is very similar right? He had these monster weeks but then he also you know really let you down he wasn't consistent and I think many weeks in a row to you need to to believe. I. Think if this were to in I, think it's one. It's a matter of schedule as well. Saints. Falcons, Tampa. So here you go. If if he does it against the saints, that's a good run D visa three for three than than I would absolutely buy in because he's talented. He's great I question if the packers offense is truly as great as we've seen or if it's you know they've they've had a little bit easier matchups to start the season. Last year, he had nine games where he was not an rb one more than. I remember he's just had an impressive start and he's He doesn't get the credit he deserves as being. One of the top five in pass catching, he has a dream hamic wide receiver on the outside. The routes that Rogers throws to Aaron Jones are not the same type of routes that other receivers get. He has downfield he is fifty fifty bowling bright's DB's or guest linebackers. I think he's better than Chimera it but that's the comp like as a player if you were to put Aaron Jones on the new. Orleans. Saints. I trust the saints offense and Sean Payton and drew brees a little bit more as a player. He's fantastic I just don't know if I could trust the packers offense. Twenty six opportunities and he played on forty eight percent of the offensive snaps like that's a that's a number. That's not gonNA. Happen. Okay so you you would go album Chimera. Zeke no. I would go Alvin Kamara between those two but I would go from here. Susan by so. Buy or sell presented by Pristine Auction. All right I saw little glimmering Jason's I, and that was the glimmer of perfection. Last week in buy-sell he actually went three for three. It was a close one. We also name hines with thirteen fancy points. We all sold clear we should have sold one. One fantasy points. Yeah. We sold Keenan Helen Todd Twenty wide receiver he ended up close but he's the wider twenty three and we all did that together and then Mark Ingram Mike and I sold him as a top twenty running back Jason. Bought it. And finished it. He finished it rb nineteen. Snuck it in there with a welded a thirty yard touchdown fourth Jason said he was GonNa get in the end zone that was the reason he took it. All right by yourself for week three James Connor is a top fifteen running back against Houston by I am definitely going to buy because I had James Connor in as I started the week for I'm guessing one and a half seconds I had him in the dock. I am not going to do this. I'M NOT GONNA put my start of the week on James Connors health but if I've got a by herself, here's where I can take i. think he's healthy. He's clearly the Guy Snow fumbled the ball and was was done to just say we we we have enough date from the fantasy football is inside source which we are basing. Akunin projections upon the sleeper bowl the the celebrity league we are in with Juju, Juju Smith Schuster this morning. Draft Benny. SNELL. He's out. So out of. You guys are you guys are MIS Interpreting that data Oh, are we? Yes please please enlighten us because I believe Jude, signed Benny Snell after week one and we viewed that as a sign that was good for beneath snow. Yes. What was the result of that intelligence negative fantasy point negative fantasy points therefore, ipso facto him dropping Benny Snail ball tells about to blow up. We got an upside down situation you had an upside down man you WanNa know what this this tells me all jokes aside is that I don't think Doodoo picked him up. He thought he would be a possible good pickup. And he's in there like. I think we know a lot and they don't know as much as we don't know sometimes I am going to sell top fifteen too high for me I. Think he is in that fifteen to twenty range. He'll put up the Ingraham like stat line, but I, think that'll be outside the top fifteen so I will sell it Mike I'm GonNa Buy Okay David Johnson same game ten fantasy points at Pittsburgh that is not a difficult line. To Hit, he can do it in the passing game I'm, GonNa, buy it. I will sell this line. I think that it will be more difficult in the matchup I mean Pittsburgh right now saquon did not hit it in week one, nine, million, six, he was under and Melvin Gordon, did he had fifteen point four points but it took a really perfect receiving touchdown I'm I'm just gonNA guess it doesn't go Houston's way this game. I I'M GONNA sell. And I've got a chance to really you do you. Adam feeling as a top ten wide receiver against Tennessee two weeks. He is the wide receiver ten I'm going to sell it. And I will buy looks like we are going to be opposite cities here. I think in general most weeks Adam feeling is gonNA be a a top ten wide receiver. So the Tennessee defense is good. Not Great. They don't scare me. Scares me is the Minnesota Vikings offense and that is exactly why I'm selling the Minnesota football team is terrifying. They lose their handle they got rid I'm just saying I'm. Eating all of them there is not a good situation going on, they want to preserve the vikings brand. So this year Oh, they're all going the MINNESOTA. No top top ten you got I got. Breaking news the Minnesota has dropped the front part of the name. They are just football team. They would not like to be associated with their now just going by dudes. I really do wish this top twelve top ten is I'm selling this guy sketchy. Oh I don't like my by I'll stick to it but all right that was by yourself from Pristine auction use the code ballers at Pristine Auction Dot. COM YOU GET A ten dollar credit towards your first sports memorabilia purchase. News and notes from around the League. All right the. New York football team the giants they signed Devante Freeman to a one year contract worth up to three million dollars. So though. This is the word out from devante Freeman agent. He. Passed up more money elsewhere because he did work out with the eagles. For the opportunity in front of him in New York now I thought he'd get more money than this. So this actually throws a little bit of shade on my view that Freeman will. Walk in the door and take all the work from day one I thought this deal would be four or five million dollars more guaranteed. He will practice with the team. He passed the Cova tests and he's going to practice and potentially play this week. But YOU'RE GONNA have John Lewis involved you're gonNA have potentially Wayne Goldman involved. He is a hold on my bench right now if you have the opportunity to hold wait and see I think that's the preference. A lot of people that are picking up devante Freeman lost running back or to and need to start him I. do expect that he'll come in and be the primary ball carrier week one you know if I had to say which one these running backs from the giants has the most fantasy points this week. I. Think we would all put it on free. That's okay. We I wouldn't put it on Dion Lewis in week one I think it's probably irrelevant whoever it is. Is Someone. I. Don't really want in my line and I agree with that and I agreed I thought he was going to get five million. So Up to three million was this is not A. Situation where they're saying save us were putting our hopes in you. Here's all the money. What's Funny. To me, you know just trying to look back in the history of what has happened with freemen over the course of this off season. We was he was reportedly offered like what? Four from Seattle correct. Things somebody has some rugrats that he did not take that on a good team and now Yeah. I I get it for Freeman you this is your best opportunity for touches. This is not your best opportunity to impress another NFL team. You have a job next year. See I think it is I guess why he's doing it I think he wants this job because that's why he's Doing it. mean the what I'm saying I watched saquon Barkley right in week one, right? Have absolutely zero chance it was like they were JV team playing an NFL team. There was nothing he could do and if if the receiving work doesn't go to Freeman, it goes to Dion Lewis. Good Luck for future saying best of luck man better ten carries behind a good offensive line than twenty against the behind about one exactly sterling shepard on I. Our Turf Toe. That stinks any given Ingram will have a pretty good shot here. They're not GONNA be able to run like they. They expected to they certainly going to be down in a lot of games. Ingram. slayton golden take Golden Tate a little sneaky smart. But we're getting to the part of the schedule where it up for the giants and Daniel Jones. We knew the beginning was GONNA be rough soon but not yet forty niners although the foreigners are pretty banged up, their defense is rough right now demonte Adams is considered uncertain for week three against what saints this why was this verbiage? It's a new. Redesignation. Certain I. Think this is just them saying. We don't want. We want to utilize the fact that he had a hamstring issue to save me be you should plan for without if you're the Davante Adams manager, you need to pick up NBS yeah and hold him as the last minute pivot because it's a Sunday night football game. Yup, I agree Dirk Koetter says he believes there's more to the Julio Jones Hamstring injury than he led on. Earth, it's like a transformer. More than meets the eye scribes only more deceptive on situation. What do you think your Russell Gauge Hayden hers the beneficiaries of Julio has to sit Russell Gauge I I would say would be the number one. Obviously Ridley's been awesome and but yeah, I think it would help obviously everyone else. Julio Commands Lot of targets that would go to other players. Okay Deontay. Johnson lingering toe injury is fine. All right AJ Brown noncommittal for week three if he's in there, are you playing him because of this? So Good I. Think if he's in, he plays I, have a Jay Brown in our league record team I've been following this news closely listening to the wide receiver coach I do not believe he plays this week. I. Think they're going to give him this week off they're only playing football team and. Have Him. He'll up for the long stretch of the season here matchup with the football team is when you have a chance to rest. Just, in Herbert likely to start week, three could be tyrod. I've seen tyrod projected by the majority of platforms right now but. A. Okay. We'll see. A change depending on WHO's starting does it change? Whether you start Henry, your Allen or Mike Williams. It changes the order of which players I prefer I. I would put Keenan Allen ahead. If Justin Herbert is there, I would bump up Austin. If. Just in Herber is the quarterback but I don't I don't think it actually changes whether I would start a player or not I'm not Mike Williams a dozen change if you'd be willing to flex him or not if it's tyrod. Yeah I. Guess I don't want to. Him with with Herbert Yeah before we move into the trending or ending segment one today sponsor simply safe the simplisafe security. This is what we have in the office here keeping all of our goodies keeping Jason out after hours. You give me the code naive. It's too dangerous. So simply safe has taken control of that. Say. It's got everything you need to protect your home with none of the drawbacks of traditional home security. You get an arsenal of sensors you can get cameras every room window door tailored specifically for your home professional monitoring keeps watch day and night they're ready to send out whoever whatever emergency response you need. Police fire medical simply safe has you covered an all of this starts at fifteen dollars a month with no contract no pushy sales people no hidden fees no fine print. We've used simply safe forever like we said, we are safe from Jason at night. You try simply safe today at simplisafe dot com slash footballers you get free shipping a sixty day risk-free trial. There's nothing to lose that as SIMPLISAFE DOT COM slash footballers we also encourage encourage you to check join the foot dot com or fantasy football community become a a part of that an incredible group of human beings This is insane. Adam schefter just tweeted this. tyrod Taylor. No. Team doctor accidentally punctured lung before kick-off Holy Crap. While trying to administer a painkilling injection what? That's not okay. We'll certainly not. Just saying like. Why don't think he did it on purpose? Well, I get that are willing to have the opportunity to do it against take that reprecussions for this are massive if that is. Man. You gotTa feel terrible for tyrod Taylor. Yes. That we thought this I mean to be honest. The first impression tires every this before every person thought Oh wink wink injury right there moving onto the rookie and this was the and I ride had his lung punctured my my first thought was I'll bet herbert took first team reps this week and they knew all along. Yeah. Didn't want to say who their starting quarterback was and then no, this is just a terrible. Situation Yeah Wow. Hope you feel better tyrod here very soon. All right let's. I thought it'd be nice to do some trending or. Two Day, we've got two weeks of the NFL season. That's enough to draw conclusions right on. Let's do it. Trending or ending. All right. So. We're going to walk through some good and some bad in terms of trending or ending you guys make your predictions. Let's start with T. Y. Hilton for two weeks. The T. Y. Hilton Plus Philip rivers. It's not been good. No, he was the wide receiver fifty in week one he was the wide receiver ninety three in week two he dropped a fifty yard touchdown pass that we all watched right before the show today it's more like a motel six experience than Hilton. Am I, right? Yeah. No you're right. Or if you got to bust out the hotel jokes, you got a chance you get a lot of them but that was a good one aright right week three week four, New York Chicago. Timing seems a little off rivers threw an interception his way he dropped a touchdown I saw another drop watching every one of his plays this year. I think it's an ending situation. That's how I'm going to weigh in and not that is not the same as saying to you I- Hilton is going to be a top twelve wide receiver. I. Don't believe he will be just with what Philip rivers is now. But I think Hilton is better than these numbers. The opportunities were there. If you catch that touchdown pass everything changes at the fifty yard touchdown, pass all of a sudden. He's a top twenty, four wide receiver. So I'll go with Andy I'm also going to take the ending the. While we're only two weeks in so the data is very limited and with the colts, you basically have to throw out week to against the Vikings. What happened you saw only five targets for T. Y. Hilton. And he was in fifty eight percent of snaps. The this game was over before it really started and I'm looking more to weak one they play Jacksonville. Targets was in on ninety percent of the snaps. Didn't get the output that you were hoping for but this is if I have to call for one, I'm going to say ending. To you I will bounce. And still be a very like a very solid top. Top twenty four go go try to acquire him. Yes. I would try and. I do think he's a Good Bilo candidate I see him as my preseason ranking was which was was low for T. Y. Hilton for yeah. We always been this top fifteen wide receiver I had him in the lower twenties. I think he was a back end wide receiver to or a high end wide receiver three I still believe that's what he is not an elite player. But not what we've seen these first two weeks, he will be much better than that over the course of the season and yeah. I, mean right now T. Y. Hilton managers have to be. Looking to offer, they're going through waivers going on man do I do I drop them if they didn't watch the game if they didn't see the fifty yard touchdown that was dropped right in his lap and whoops so yeah, I I would. I. Would acquire him and I think he'll be better. So I unanimously agree this one is going to end he will not be as bad as he's been. I had will fuller and TV Hilda's my starters in our dynasty leak, and that was A. Sub Optimal. Mike and I this last week had in two different leagues the. Stellar Combo. Jones and Devante. No. The trilogy because Allen Robinson was also in there. Oh My. Let me ask you this before we move onto another player here in trending or ending. Would you rather have? Aj Green or T. Y. Hilton. Rest of season Oh that's a fantastic question. I would take the chance on. I take the chance on that age green volume. It's been absolutely outrageous. They just haven't connected and they'll jason that AJ green is number one in the NFL yards through two weeks. I believe it but the air yards are extra when you go and you look at his air yards, he gets like five extra. Overthrow. So yes, I'm still going to take the better quarterback here though so I'll take Aj Green. Oh, a green is in need To take a shot at P. River, all do it. Yes, you will. And he kinda deserves a right now. So let's go to another player here Josh Allen. Yes he has been the quarterback three. Both weeks both weeks, he's been the quarterback three. Now it's it's the jets and Miami a very nice start to the year this why Josh Allen was on the shortlist for all of our fantasy drafts because we knew you want to get off to a hot start. We didn't know it'd be this hot. But when you didn't know it would be three hundred passing yards four, hundred passing ours. That's what you're draft you Mike. I am well, you knew it was going to jump up to that level I should've told some should have shared that information. No I didn't know he was going to do what he's done but suffice digs. That, if you're looking at trainings to find eggs is one of the reasons why you could buy into trending because you have a it's more than an anomaly right? He's had big games before all the last year. He really struggled to give you the big time weeks two years ago as a rookie the big weeks came because of the rushing yardage last year, he was much more solid quarterback but not premiere type of fantasy finishes this year you start the year with two week winning type performances and you have the foundational piece of Stefan Digs. Trending, ending as. What does this mean? Top three quarterback rest of season. That's a tough ask. Let's say top five. Top Five I think I think I would with trending I. Think top five is very reasonable. He has a rushing baseline. He has yet to get you know those rushing touchdowns. I think is one into so but he's no Cam Newton with four so far whatever it is right. I'M GONNA go training as top five I. Don't see how. I could be fooled here but I, couldn't see any way to say ending because he has the tool sets the weapons the team is wanting and giving him the opportunity if crap hits the fan that he runs the ball, which is even better for fantasy I think he dominates the rest of the season. Yeah, I believe. Looking back to. I was not on not in on digs thought he digs over performed last year as the best deep ball wide receiver. But. Looking back I think I underestimated. The mobility of Josh Allen combining that into the deep threat of Stefan digs where kirk cousins if a play blows up because as offensive line can't handle the candle, the blocking Josh Allens can scramble out of some stuff and then find Stefan digs deep I I will say this. The schedule gets really difficult for Josh Allen at the end of the year Let me read you weeks thirteen through sixteen. At San Francisco. Home Against Pittsburgh at Denver at New England to end the year yes you're gonNA. You know I wouldn't worry about it right now but no. But yeah. That sounds unfortunate and by the time we get there he could be dominated so much that you're just going to play him through this which we'll find out if that's a mistake or not doubt because to. The the the opposite to try and balance the Josh Allen. Love fast that's happening here last year. When he was expected to like Oh josh ounce going to have a monster fantasy game. He would, and then when you saw him up against tougher defense ago I don't know if I wanNA play Josh Allen, you would get that number ten on the week output not this huge ceiling that we're seeing. Ceiling. Ceiling. Cooper Cup trending or ending he's outside the top twenty four for two consecutive weeks. It's concerning. He's the wide receiver forty, two through two weeks. Started as a week one, he was the water for sixty last week he had ten and a half fantasy points but that put them at thirty three. Five for I mean he has not gotten into the end zone one hundred total yards. Yeah. He did which Kinda shocks me equated to wide receiver thirty-three last week. I was a bit surprised being this but eighty six percent of snaps. He played eighty, five percent of snaps. So He's been on the field. Has. Buffalo. The giants, Washington. I'd like to hear your thoughts. Yeah I wanna I wanna hear Mike's Thoughts I because I know that there was so much talk on this show leading up to the season about the last five games of the Los Angeles Rams the way that they were using Tyler higby be the way that they were using Cooper Cup less and. Mike you are on board of Pro Higby, worried about Cooper cups so far two weeks in your stance is looking strong but do you still buy into that from what you've seen on the field I will say that I believe that. I would say ending because I believe that Cooper Cup is better than this the problem that where or when I was going through the process of in Cooper cop was he has a legitimate. Touchdown not threat is at competition or before when you got in the red zone was cooper cop you that's that this is what's happening. The defense knows this is what's happening and no one can stop Kusama just touchdown monster. But now there is there is a beast who is there as well that can scoop up the the touchdowns here all of them like A. Selfish jerk exactly. But he wasn't his volume wasn't insane last week I. Think he had five or six hundred much yardage diddy. No e. but he pulled in the touchdowns. That is the difference is that the touchdown can go somewhere else now. So that is you have to build into the variants of Cooper Cup five for eighty one that's this no shameful game by any stretch so. I would say ending. You're welcome. And upcoming up the buff buffalo matchup. They've been giving yards to the slot position, and so I think they're Cooper Cup can have bounceback week. It's it's easy to say ending based on the first two weeks. But everything you said is true everything you said is is accurate and there is. He's been a player that needs to score. I, mean, he was a double digit touched one of the few double digit touchdown players. Last season that is kind of one of the linchpins of Kubrick up he needs. You know he's had some big touchdown plays both Cooper Cup and Robert Woods did not have you know huge weeks last week. and it used to be you could count on it. You can't touchdowns go back and forth you. You never really know who's going to be. They're going to keep their touchdown totals or lose them. But there are a handful of players into the Davante Adams I'm I'm banking on the touchdowns coming. Ridley Cooper Cup was one of those guys but you saw such a shift at the end of last year that there was reason for concern. Let me let me. Percentage of his career this this year so far so That's why you gotta say ending if he's on the field now t y Hilton, we know if you were to target him in a trade is gonNa cost you nothing or he could cost you. He's been outright terrible. This, last week one, hundred total yards for cooper. Cup. Would you target him because you guys are saying that you think there's a bounce back or are you worried enough where it's like I don't Wanna I don't want to pay for Cooper Cup of. Case. His touchdowns but in the season at five I, I don't WANNA trade like A. A A known fantasy football. Like someone who's really contributing to my team and I know I can rely on them. At for the possible upside of what Cooper Cup has been in previous years but I will be real happy to go to the manager of Cooper Cup with some with the fancy new waiver wire edition who someone who's been crushing and be like, Hey, you interested and let's make this trade. All right. Let's go to. Calvin. Really trending or ending as a top five wide receiver. He was number two in week one number one in week to. Twelve targets, ten targets. Sixteen catches on the year two, hundred and thirty nine yards four total touchdowns. Second most air yards football we already know. A baked into Atlanta is Matt Ryan and three, hundred, four, hundred games You Know I. A top five wide receiver. Having to take him I'm going to take it to this is trending. Calvin Ridley is. It's todd win the touchdowns have been at two a week. Yeah. He will not get two touchdowns a week but what we know is that It in his short career Colvin really catches touchdowns. He double digit touchdowns as a rookie if I remembering that. Correctly Colvin. Ridley. We don't want to say, but I'll just say it Calvin really is what you want Julio Jones to be. Oh. Mercy. I totally get what you're saying like. That's the kind of thing that Julio here's and then dropped thirty nine targets twenty-seven. Jones the yards this. This is not saying Julio Jones isn't still a top ten wide receiver. I'm saying, Calvin. Really gets the air yards gets the targets that Julio. Does. But. Then some he has the connection in the end zone with Matt Ryan Bidder Okay I enter because I I went in I tried very hard. To get Calvin really before this season and that would have known you're calling for a pox. No, I'm not. I. Didn't say it was ending I just said it's hard because of the touchdown totals top five is it's a high bar. Here's an exercise we can play to. To figure out where we'd put them would you rather have de'andre? Or Calvin Ridley I'd rather have the under I would as well. There's one okay onto atoms. Rather have atoms here's an interesting name. Michael Thomas, the Calvin Ridley I take Michael Thomas so easily so you might play this week. You would take Calvin really and trade 'em for Michael Thomas. Yeah okay all right, Oh yeah. Mike when you like Michael, Thomason Trade for Calvin Ridley would okay I'm again he plays this weekend and be able to get a lot more than Calvin really. All right Sultanas. Harry. Kill. Calvin Ridley. We're three and we're already having kill hesitation. Okay. I'm not I'm not. Here's the most fun obviously, Julio Jones I knew that was coming. I mean I'm sticking with Julio Jones Oh gosh. I am I am it's two weeks in and upset on hamstring. Strong Point Mike that means that Andy I believe that's five players. so that puts Kevin Ridley. At least at six I don't think he finishes top five receiver that's what I just I just decided. I think because the fact that he's got four touchdowns in two weeks, he probably will the same way that Michael Thomas won't finish as a top five wide receiver on the season But from this point out from here on out, you're saying you don't believe. That he will be a top five wide receiver. Yeah. And I, you know I feel. Like I'm in the minority here and I'm getting I'm getting piled up on but here's what Michael Thomas doesn't have to deal with Julio. Jones. Journey on the other side of the field and we're two weeks and we have fourteen weeks left. Thomas let's say, Mrs this week. Michael Thomas for the remainder of the of the year. With. What we saw drew brees needing I would take Michael Thomas this season. Calvin. Ridley the the concert waterbed on put it on the board then okay the. Waterbed the concern for Michael Thomas from my side is not Michael Thomas? Sure he plays this week. He had a high ankle sprain I've I've seen that song and dance enough that that the the probability of him needing multiple weeks to really return to being Michael Tom he backpedaled to his average depth the target. Mike where where Michael Thomas is does he need this his ankles at all? I don't know. Okay. Well, that's a fun waterbed. That's not one of those Derek Carr Mitch trubisky water bits well, and obviously this is a Calvin really Michael Thomas Water and baked into. This is the unknown injury timeline. So I guess in your hope and Michael Thomas gets back the injury-time line that was a that was part. It's unfortunate in the back but I I, like it if you WanNa do points per game. Of. His already happened. Maybe. Mike would go spirit. That go to the bookie. It'd be like look I know we already we already made this bet I think that is the spirit of the though is total points not points per game because if Micheal Thomas was An active right now. The trade right now has his injury baked in. So that's fine. Dan Thanks Jason Uruk at is the. Another piece of it to me is. The Saints Defense is solid. The Falcons. Defense are going to allow lots of points to everyone I'm just GonNa remind people if they are piling on the me at home. Chris Godwin started the year last year all and just massive fire and yes he he did where did he finish? Yeah I know I know but but the From that point on, there were a lot of players that you would have wanted rather than Chris Godwin over the back half of the year. So maybe maybe this'll be like the Russell Wilson Bet. where it could be right but yet from this point on Michael Thomas may average more but rarely finish ahead of him I'm glad you brought up a Godwin Godwin because that is a i. mean it's a comp that's been made all offseason and now makes a lot of sense in season he finished as the wide receiver to he was phenomenal in the beginning of the year but the second half of the year. Chris Godwin was the wide receiver twenty two. Did you hear that so? Yeah, and where did you finish on the year like while you were to this is why I said he'll probably end up. The water fight and Matt Ryan much better much more consistent quarterback Jameis Winston. He likes thrown into. Julia. Though man in between Chris. That's enough Chris. Calvin Calvin Eric Lee Alright. I got something for you. Breaking news to bits of news. One. Christian McCaffrey has been put on short term. I are he has. At least the next three weeks. So those that speculated he would try to get back early. He could still try because four to six weeks. It's you know I think this is for the best for for fantasy football knowledge you know McCaffrey's out three weeks. Davis is going to be the guy for three weeks. There is nothing more infuriating than a guy who you know isn't playing who's listed as questionable or doubtful, and you can't place in your IRA and make a waiver transaction I can't stand that. So this is actually great news. because. Now, you know what to do and you're not going to have to play that that roster spot game. Yeah and you didn't want the injured CMC being started in dealing with that I will say this. Two minutes ago our waivers went through and I was going to about I was about to ask you does that news make you raise your bid on my Davis? Course you can't now nor did you get him? Well I knew I would not I told you yesterday and forty two fat I wasn't going to bid enough to get them I. I was willing to go up to thirty but not higher than that I was the Christian McCaffrey manager. So this was you know, do I make a hard play and I'm just not willing to spend nearly half of my fab on a temporary guy who? Mike Davis. He's not A. Racing Jason doing wavered till yesterday in the studio. Because we were I mean I I. He petitioned to be paid for the work because he said it was such hard work. Vapor who I don't know but just like it was like. It was like a job to go through all the because yesterday was a big waiver show but there is still this point like I told Jason I got to the point where I'm putting waiver claims in I was lucky enough not to have an injury Jason et ce her I didn't have a major injury and we got to this point whereas like. I kind of want these players. But if I'm not gonNA play them this week how much are you gonNa Spend on a Mike Davis Daryl Henderson. So I didn't really invest a lot. I spent seven five on Nikiel Harry. To put them back on my roster, which was the same bid as somebody else I ended up getting him but otherwise I didn't put heavy bids in the a perfect example here I I have Tony Pollard right now on my team and it was do if I'm not playing my Davis, which in in my roster right now I wouldn't be would I rather have Mike Davis or Tony Pollard? And and obviously there's known depth for the next at least three weeks with Mike Davis. That's interesting. But you have put my Davis in your lineup I would not have kind of semi lineup changes your bit I mean, that's why it's. Everyone wants to know how much fab do I spent and they want A. And the number is contextual had are you gonNA play him a lot? Kenyan drake and James Connor a after Christian McCaffrey. So I didn't feel like I had to get Mike. There you go. Okay. Very interesting. Other news that I mentioned Kenny Kenny Golladay is back at practice. So you have. The opportunity there. So small you saying. Frank at the trade in before the. Before the news really breaks out. I'm, not. Saying nothing my. Soaps Sochi. Okay so that that's the breaking news I have some some news broken during the show. Today. So let's go ahead and hit Thursday night. Thursday night breakdown. Battle of the MOXIE. Versus fits magic. Are you kidding me? This is absolutely must watch veered versus mustache is I can't wait for this game. If you told me like look at the scheduled Jaguars Dolphins, Yuck, I can't wait to watch the real football. Oh man did you see the quote from? GARMON ABOUT Ryan Fitzpatrick. No I wouldn't have. Apparently, Ryan Fitzpatrick kind of playfully attacked minhsiu saying beards are better than average dominance and so minhsiu said. You know he's gotTa respect his elders especially when they're way way elder. So he deferred and Oh that is great. Given the side I two so. The dolphins take on the Jacksonville Jaguars as we've said, jags are two and a half point favorites at home. It's a forty eight point over under. Minzhu is my start of the week. So. This one will be fun, beard versus Mustache so. Fitzpatrick said guys that grow mustaches have patchy sides. He may not be wrong. Oh, that's great. That is great. But men shoe I like him in this game fitzpatrick he had twenty eight fantasy points last week they were player to away from beating Buffalo. I don't think people maybe realized that with how Prolific Josh Allens been in the bills and how they've played but this game was actually very, very close. Jacksonville their defense is struggling to put pressure on the quarterback. They're dead last in adjusted rate Richard Fitzpatrick a chance to throw the football. Couple of surprise running backs that. Maybe. You didn't even know their names before the season began James Robinson Miles Gaskin in this game. Robinson been getting sixteen carries in each of the first two games. I acquired him in a dynasty league needing some depth feeling like he's going to have. Sustainable role rest of season in Jacksonville. But who do you start out the running back position in Miami because we thought it'd be Jordan Howard Amount Brita but here's miles gang. It is miles gaskin. If if you're forced to start a Miami Dolphin running back number one I am so sorry number two, it's it's miles gas. The guys are getting out work Jordan Howard what was his his line was like three to one lab total snaps we call that a blast. It wasn't that I mean, but it was it was five four. Where's the Jordan Howard truth? There's now. I, I can't believe what has happened to Jordan Howard one eight attempts for seven yards week to five attempts for four yards. Now granted he's he's seems to be getting exclusive work at the goal line. So he's only got one yard to go like the yards per carry argument when you're well, what about all the goal line carries it actually holds water for Jordan Howard. That's only carries that he has seen, but it was like the average one. It is very because that means he's successful. It is very bizarre what has happened with Jordan Howard was the free agent they picked up they traded for map Rita and they're like you know what seventh-round miles gasket that's the guy we need running our offense twenty eight routes run from the running back position for miles gaskin. I don't have the target number in front of me, but it was a low seven seven targets, six catches in this past week. Is he a flax. He is a no he is absolutely a borderline flex borderline flex. He's a, he's a, he's A. Typically -Ly, where Jason. Bills Twenty six fancy points still posing running-backs. Here are miles, gaskins fantasy finishes the first two weeks are be thirty, five, rb twenty six. That is an absolute fringe flex play. Is Desperate. Yeah. I mean you you can better than Chris Thompson. said this to Andy yesterday in the studio I said he's he's a top thirty back but I'm not sure that that matters like do you really WanNa flex a guy who finishes at twenty six on the week that's that's not what you're ever hoping for. It's enough to where you're not embarrassed but you're probably gonNA. Lose. So it doesn't matter. It's tough in the streets man you got you had a lot of injuries maybe you're dealing with you do have a lot of injuries I mean. You'd play over Chris. Thomson yes. Who Saturday Jordan Howard drafter the Chris Thomson Drafter Right. Now, Thomson Thomson Much Higher Thompson had huge expectations especially from me. Personally I will say this James. Robinson. Snap percentage went down last week although the game script in this one lends itself towards. James Robinson being pretty involved. So I think Robinson's and okay star. We had Arbi Nineteen on the week and I think he'll be just fine. He's look good. Yeah. The thing that I like about James Robinson is that he's passed the test when we're watching these games like, Oh man, that's a strong run. Oh, man what a broken tackle he just he actually he's not an offense that you want this isn't a prolific. Team that's going to be ever favored by nine points at home and just a smash play. But I trust James Robinson based on the carries he's getting. In the film that I've watched saying he's not a bad running back. I'm going to bring up a bonus addition of trigger ending right now, and it's DJ Chart Dj charged through two weeks. He was the wide receiver, thirty four. He was the wide receiver thirty five. He's on the field eighty percent of the time his targets in those two games three and four. Now, he's caught every one of them. But trending ending Dj Charq because people are panicking I've seen it on twitter. there are a little worried I. Mean you didn't think you were getting a A. Wide Receiver thirty five, the same way we didn't think that with Cooper Cup. No the I would. I will say with a very shaky voice ending i. I'm. Sometimes. So in fantasy football, I was thinking about this on the drive in of when you are you know trading low for a player or there's kind of the two bucket said I put things into its number one. Just. Talent. You know sometimes you you know a player is very good like Alan Robbins. Sarah, maclaurin. down. Robinson. That's ending. He's getting way too much volume and he's too great. Dj Charge is you're just buying on talent alone because the peripheral numbers, the the the opportunities he is receiving right now are not enough. It's not enough. So I I I would try to get but it's It's super sketchy right now for DJ dark unfortunately. Are you worried about him this week he's got the injury, but we got them to play. If he plays it's a great situation. The dolphins are giving up thirty nine fancy points a week right now too wide receivers. I'm still playing him which is crazy with their cornerbacks. They paid all that money for Jones while he hasn't played as he didn't miss a week. No, he was he was but he got knocked out last night at some point and he's probably going to miss this week. That's a great question. I'm we'll check my missed this week but I- surprising them. I'm holding I'm holding we need HR. Behold he is considered doubtful. Byron Jones Yeah Yeah I'm I'm holding day. Yes. Hold just could be the breakout week. It really could and then on the other side of the ball. devante Parker is questionable limited on Tuesday I. Think he'll play too I like I like Parker I have not liked him through the first two weeks with the hamstring injuries the aggravation, but he was able to play through successfully last week, and now another week I think this is where he gets back on track and has a breakout game I. I would be happy to start devante Parker and thrilled to play Mike these. These are the two receiving weapons I want in this game and I think both will have a big game I. You know I, I know that there's always the chance to have that major disappointment but I I, think this is an. Game I, think that these two quarterbacks will get it done and they're gonNa start just going back and forth by the end of the game scoring and I I would like pieces of that on a Thursday night. Where should the opposite happened I I've got that extra time for knowledge of how my team started. I'll give you a little peek into tomorrow. Tomorrow is starts of the week and I took my quarterback I went I went a little hybrid because it's it's a start, but it's just another streaming option because I don't think we gave them the love that he deserved on Tuesday. It's Ryan Fitzpatrick He Ryan Fitzpatrick is my star the week, the quarterback position. All right I have to react to something that took place in our dynasty league. Now I thought Mike I thought. That I was I was going to acquire. You've thought wrong drew sample for fifty dollars worth of dynasty. FAB. And here's Mike swooping in with sixty four dollars. On. The block. SAMBU. Depth yeah I 'cause I. We would be talking about CG Zometa, this week has been hurt. Borough seems to like the tide imposition. Ample looks even better for a long term view because of the draft capital. Some second round pick through sample. Who who's available in our dynasty league tying back into this game I picked up Isaiah Ford in the Dynasty League because Isaiah. It's Great Pick Zia Ford has been impressive Last week was the wide receiver twenty-eight Ami Dolphins. Wide Receiver Matters Right. seven receptions seventy six yards nine targets last week. Preston Williams had some drops keys in that game as they afford is emerging a little bit. So again, it's a very deep ads in a dynasty league, but he has a spot start if we need if you're an emergency this week, I'd say possibly a spot start for me is just a story line of you know I like to be in the Games. Who What am I watching for him? I don't really have any skin in the game on Isaiah, Ford but I'm watching I'm watching to see if this is a trend or not. He was a Matt Harmon favourite coming out of the drinks draft twitter really liked Isaiah Ford and then he plummeted unfortunately a reminder take your Thursday night players out of the flex position. Put them in your main running back or wide receiver spots. So you have flexibility later let me ask you this Andy is a would you you're in deep deep league? Yeah. You gotTa have a spot start you ravaged by injuries your freaking Avid I've been ravaged. This is ravaged. You. Are you going to go with Isaiah Ford or would you go with Kiel and coal I'd Keel and call Yeah Yeah Cuban Kohl's leading the team in targets right now he one of the players that win I watch and play football. I've I'm always like is like Robert Woods. In Buffalo I go men I think in the coals good and then he Just dances around the depth chart like people. It's so weird and here he is again relevant years ago we watched and both of US loved Keelan Coma like man. He's going to be a thing with grabbed him a dynasty, and then he just disappeared for a while. Yeah he's back Ya got Chenault or goal in this game I think I'd play Cole? I've got just my rankings. All right. Anything else you guys want to add any other breaking news brooks you got anything special for us nothing. That's great. That means there was no injuries in the last twenty minutes. All right. We have starts to the week on tomorrow's show. We'll get into the match ups for week three. We got football again tomorrow. 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Top Ten Fantasy Football Tight Receivers

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Top Ten Fantasy Football Tight Receivers

"This top ten fantasy football receivers edition of the sports gaming podcast is presented by mybookie dot AG. My bookie is the official online sportsbook of the sports gambling podcast use that promo code S, G P fifty and get a fifty percent deposit bonus play win and get paid over by bookie. We're also brought to you by Amazon. Log onto sports gambling pack has dot com slash Amazon bookmark that link and use it every time you shop at Amazon score sweet savings and support the podcast. Welcome everyone to the sports gambling pack, Sean stack in the money your aim with my partner picks. Right. Real money, Kramer, zapping, and Ryan, everything's happening shown everything. Everything is happening. No, it's, it's nothing's happening. Sports, Canada, right now, who are somewhere in between a, you are listening to this sometime between the end of basketball in the beginning of football, the wide area otherwise known as baseball season. For baseball there, it's happening. It's happening, the Ryan filling the gap filling. The void is the National Football League. We're taping this on what June twentieth June twentieth June twentieth. So maybe maybe so twenty-first Sean you did. Come on, man. Someone twenty-first. Okay. We're taping this on June twenty-first just so that we get that out of the way because you may be listening this August. You're like, oh my God. You have deandre Hopkins in your tap ten receive realistic. I get hit by a bus. What do you think first of all, if Deandra Hopkins got hit by a bus would the bus win. Be bad news for that bus man he did ride a bus or that was the Sean watt show us and had to write up us because he's long was so jacked up. They couldn't that, that is how crazy the national real story, then he had a bad case like the shit's just didn't wanna get an airplane like Paul Pierce. Oh man. That is how bad ass. The NFL is, you're not healthy enough to sit on a plane. But Tim, how you're healthy enough to go out there and do battle with these other gladiators for three hours. So let me get this straight. You're not healthy enough to fly on a plane, but you are healthy enough to be sat on by his three hundred pound man to be to be have your lights cleaned out by two hundred seventy five pound linebacker who runs a four three forty. Because the NFL doesn't give a fuck. That's why it's the greatest of all time. And that's why we're talking about two months before the season actually kicks off two months, maybe even three months three. Full months, Olmos I think it's is it twelve or eleven Sundays, I've lost count. Well, the simple number. I can't keep track. I know it is a lot of. If you've lost track, you know, you can do you can just go to Instagram dot com slash sports. Gambling podcast follows there as we can't down to the start of the national football season. Got some fun videos up there right now. We got a levian bell audio from him being robbed by some chicks fun cold blooded some solid memes. They're solid, seventy six days, Sean, seventy seventy six days. I couple couple viral videos, personal favorite, one of the one of the funniest clips of all time, and it's from this. It's gotta be like late eighties early nineties, javelin thrower. Tosses a DASA javelin, really, really far. And as luck would have it at nails a judge. Just just saw that, that was amazing. It's, it's an amazing throw. It's amazing, the judge just stands there and gets hit by the javelin merely. Throws it out of him. Did he L for, you know, that's interesting? What is the what is the proper etiquette? Wasn't throwing a javelin. Do you have to yell anything? What's shouldn't? He have not been there or this guy just throw it so far. Yeah, it's one of those things, I'm not a javelin expert. I don't really follow the league day today, the ins and outs of javelin tossing. But it seems odd that the judge well accounts, this was they called judges. Well officials whatever you call them and it's like a great javelin toss. I don't know why you would be standing there. Where else would you like there's other judges standing off to the side that didn't get hit by the javelin? It's not like he threw the javelin, and it went into the crowd like he seemingly through it exactly where he intended. The head looked like he did really well. I mean, this looked like it was steroid era. But he was definitely nice throw it seemed like that guy. Maybe was shouldn't have been standing there, right? Yeah. Or maybe that guy fucked his wife. Yeah. It's, it's like the do that wanders out into the fairway to go hit his ball, right? During your back swing. Yeah. Nobody's not my fault. If I hit, you know, Ryan and you probably if you're watching this, and that's right. You can watch a podcast. You got to do is go to YouTube dot com slash sports. 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The eagles also opened up against the Washington Redskins, you Sean played a lineup that helped, you gain two hundred thousand dollars over a draftkings dot com, promo code. She will you be playing that similar line of as an anniversary present to yourself. Yeah. Yes. I you're going to play the same exact lineup. Well that will be one of the lineups I play, but you're gonna play you can play the that exact everyone's league that well and their salary considerations. I was ahead of the curve on the Zakar. It's bandwagon. You names eckerd's your second tight end. Let's just walk down. And honestly, Sean real quick, though you mentioned how my bookie is, is more than a sponsor their partner. Yes. I happy pride month. Sean, okay. Just talking about partners. All right. Sorry, get back to your spiel about your. Play this lineup. Well, let me know if where you see the where you see the issues and I already see one Carson Wentz a quarterback. Yes. He's still newly la- Shawn McCoy still Wentz might not be healthy. So would you play Sud failed if Wentz isn't available for week one is a big act, right? You've already jinxed him into one SEAL injury. So you can keep trying, but you're not going to stop us. Sean McCoy running back my other running back THEO Riddick. Ooh, interesting. I think he's still in the league in Tonio Brown. We'll talk about him. I'm assuming coming up here shortly Amari Cooper. Is a disgusting. I don't know if I can play Marty Cooper because he's on the Cowboys deandre Hopkins. Yes, I can play him Zakar. I don't think you can afford this lineup. Zakar tes again. Yes. Eckerd's was thirty nine hundred draftkings now he's like probably seventy five hundred. And then my flex spot, Terry Cohen and then Phillies defense, so unlikely that I'd be able to Ford that, but maybe some sort of combination and that just shows you ride the fact that I can't afford this two years later. It shows you just how ahead of the game I was with that week one draftkings line. Sean, you're awesome. I am awesome. Thanks, man. What else is awesome? What else is awesome Sean fantasy fucking football. All right. Let's do it. Let's breakdown tap ten receivers Kramer, you go. First. Okay. I'm gonna go first. This guy this guy, there's a chance he's not even on your list. Go. He's a player for the Cincinnati Bengals and that is AJ green. He only played nine games last year. Who's he receiver for the Cincinnati bangles only played nine games last year? But for the most part is career pretty reliable guy as far as receptions yards touchdowns. He missed a big part of the season due in part to a toe injury. Toe injury seems all good to go east coming back. He's in a contract year. It's a make or break year for AJ green and maker break year for the red rocket himself, Andy Dalton, I think I think if you're handy Dalton and you're trying to stay in the league, you're going to get AJ green as many targets, as you can. If you're AJ green, you're trying to get paid. Maybe he gets a deal done before the season. But, you know, the, the Brown family or whatever. Owns a Bengals totally notoriously super cheap, sheep. I think they're gonna I think they're going to need him to go out and prove himself got the defenses in the AFC north, don't really scare me. I think I think AJ green can have a good year at number ten also, no one's talking about AJ grade. So if you're in round four round five you could get AJ green. I think. What's his ADP ride you put me on the spot? I'll pull it up. I actually agree with you. I, I do. I, I like AJ green and I. But I put a little higher, Sean. Okay. I'll all his he's thirty fifth eighty and fantasy prose have ranked twelfth overall. So I'm a little higher. Well, did he make your top ten? Yeah. He did. Okay. I think why think AJ green is one of those guys we kind of forget about from. Yeah. Time I feel like he he slipped under the radar because he was out the whole second half of the season. But for my my first guy on the list. I won't with Keenan Allen. Okay. I know you're probably gonna say Ryan, why wouldn't you put Keenan Allen higher? I honestly they ain't hunter Henry is really gonna cut into their. You're right. I, I had hunter Henry super high in the tight end for whatever reason when I just worry that I just have this thing that Keenan Allen isn't gonna play every game. So while I remember in the maybe week, one was it where he blew out his ACL, and it might have buddy sandy sigma chapel. Ios. The whole season go up in flames. It's like when Brady blew out his ACL wake on decker was just devastated. He goes, oh, he immediately knew. It's non contact. It's an ACL. He's done. It's just it's so devastating as a fan, so many months days, leading up to the offseason, you finally kick this thing off, and then it's all over, maybe that's tainting your perspective ride. Maybe anyway Keenan, Allen's going to be my tenth guy. I think if he plays every game. His upside is much higher. Interesting. I'm going, my number nine man by the name. Now. Again, this is a bit of a roll the dice. I am gambler ride our model. You're on the podcast is let it slide. Ride. And so I'm letting it ride. I'm picking Sammy Watkins. A little controversial. This is a play just on the idea that tyreek hill is not gonna play all sixteen games. I think he plays. Eight maybe six lever was this real quick because obviously, he's not going to be on either one of our lists for top ten receivers know how many games is he he's missing. I'm gonna say eight feels right. Or I can see him being I, I think how many AP Mus AP only missed like one or two. Okay. So that was how many games than Ray rice miss six. Well, he missed two. Yeah. You think he missed six isn't that more reason you think he's gonna miss more than eight or you more than six? Yeah. Because of because all the shit, the NFL keeps getting and because of how brutal this, this was the audio tape that was released and just all the shit Roger Goodell's giving. I could be wrong. It just seems that they're trending towards harsher punishments. And again look conspiracy theory. He lays the hammer down on tyreek hill. Very hard and the as coming up. This is a chance for Roger Goodell. Deflects his muscles. So when the players try and argue for less. Argue against owner control. The owners will try and, or like what's going to happen with the CBI's that they're gonna try and say this tell to have less control. This is a good time from to flex his muscles show. Some troll. And then what's going to happen is the players will argue to get some of that control back and give up some money, potentially. But all are being said, I think he's gonna miss more than six games. I'd be surprised. But again, it's a bit of a kangaroo court. You, it's tough to predict how the NFL is going to rule in these. But what I will say is our pal. Warren, sharp had this stat walk ins head one sixteen passer rating and a sixty three percents success rate when targeted both numbers or better than Travis, Kelsey and tyreek hill. So there is a connection there with Mahomes with kill out, maybe that connection gross. That's what I'm banking on. All right, Sean, give me your eight. My nine. I've only giving me your I've given you one. Yes. One less than ten is nine. This is where I've AJ green. I'm gonna let that go all the way through still an elite talent. He's had some injuries. How would you say nine games last year? Yup. He still AJ green. I still think when it comes down to it if he's going to be healthy, which I feel like he's been fairly healthiness career last year. Maybe an anomaly, I still like you're having the conversation at this point in the draft where you're deciding between J green tea y Hilton Amari Cooper, Adam dealing guys like this. And to me, AJ green has the upside. He still the contract year to he's contract, your, he still the six foot four six foot five physical specimen that he has been. I just think you got to put him in there and. I think you're going to get a potentially. He could continue to fall because there will be players, like Shirley, the Cowboys fan in your draft will take a Mario Cooper. And there will be guys that want the upside of t y Hilton. Yeah. Brandin cooks. We'll be like. Oh, yeah. He's you. Did you see on NFL network some I don't remember who the ex player was, but he had his wide receiver rankings and you had Julian Ataman number four. Come on, on in the AFC east. The entire league. It was bad in the entire league, Sean in the entirely anyway. AJ green at my I almost put them higher. But I'm gonna leave him at number nine, yeah. The more we talk about in the more kind of like an more this one. He have him way lower than than almost everyone. Well, maybe not. Everyone number eight in Tonio Brown. Wow. It's a little crazy. But I just think this, Oakland team. I'm just seeing disaster. I long Cox. I I really concerned about Derek cars a quarterback but you look at look at Antonio Brown's production. I mean, from two thousand thirteen on hundred ten receptions, one twenty nine one thirty six one zero six one two one one four. That's six years of one hundred plus receptions. Tight. It touchdowns almost all in the double digits except has seventeen the only had nine coming off a career high fifteen touchdowns. It just seems this isn't gonna go well in Oakland, they're looking ahead towards laws, Vegas. They have hard knocks happening. I could see it being a real disaster. I'm just. He's hard to go against because he's been so productive. And he is so good. But I'm I'm saying away from Antonio, Brad, I got him number eight who's your number Iran? This is so funny. I have the same thing really. And I and I haven't over. I haven't over on him for catches because I think he easily gets. I think the over was ninety seven and a half catches. He's getting one hundred catches, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's having a great year. I don't I don't think he's I think he's I think he could have like ninety catches six touchdowns. He's touchdowns are going to be the show. I think he has a I think he catches a lot of short shit, and he gets a lot of I mean, you've got to think about this. Right. He plays every game you only need like six point three catches a game. It's not a tear cart Tonto well in the pocket, he doesn't. Here's the reason while I think in Tonio Brown will be fine from catch perspective. I just. To your point. There's so many ways this can go wrong. It's hard for me to rank him higher. And I'm not gonna I don't see a scenario where I could be talked into taking Tonio Brown, unless he really starts to fall down to this range where I am, if I'm deciding between Antonio Brown AJ green, then I'm like cool. I'll take into Neo Brown. Yeah. It may go wrong. But now this might be the this is second round pick now. Yeah, that's not a first round pick from it. But that that's why we're, we're lockstep here. Sean Tonio Brown's Mina Murray he end. He's, he's getting up there in the years, he came into late two thousand ten if you told me after all the drama, he went through after all this crazy productivity. Is he going to trend up or down? Yeah. How do you make the case for training up? How do you say he's going to have a better year than what he did last year? Well, and that's a it's just a tough case to make. It's also just the fact that and I wanted to pull up. Do you have his stats from last year in front of you? Yeah, how many? How many catches the F one of four so teen touchdowns, though? He's not having fifteen touchdown right? So I think he gets right on that hundred catch Mark, and I think the yardage is probably around twelve hundred and you know, maybe finds the end zone every other came eight touchdowns touchdowns less is a big drop big drop. And again, that's why I think second round you're targeting. You're targeting him in the second round shown who's your number seven. Give me T Y Hilton of the Indianapolis Colts. It's a simple formula when Hilton healthy and Andrew luck are healthy amazing production. He's just not. He doesn't stay healthy. Well, that's and that's a real concern. But this is the beginning of the season, Devin funchess is there now he worried about that. I. I just like t y Hilton. It's really, it's really nothing more crazy than that. He's just a guy that Andrew luck loves you know that Frank right offense. It seems like there's just going to be a lot of opportunities for them. I know I know he's been plagued by injuries, but last year off the top of your head. What do you think he did perceptions was? Eighty seven seventy six okay, six touch dance. And that was in fourteen games. I think even in fourteen fifteen games, I get him having slightly better numbers. One of the things that the guys at the fantasy prose talk about a lot is like, basically like percentage of your games where you scored as a wide receiver one or wide receiver to or whatever and see why Hilton in sixty four point three percent of his games has posted wide receiver to or better numbers. That means he's a top twenty four player that week I really liked. He y Hilton t y Hilton is someone that in the in the eight to twelve range, I'm definitely targeting in best ball on. Probably ranking him around here in best ball even because of that boomer bust, but for this for what we're doing. I left them off my top ten. Wow. Just because I feel like there's a long there, what the fuck Jack Doyle and abra n- tight end and we know how much look likes the tight end you sprinkle in some night. He nah. Nah him Hines and, and who knows. I mean, I'm not a big fan of Devon punches. But he, he might get the ball luck likes throwing the larger targets me that all being said, t y Hilton will certainly have a handful of games this year where he scores two touchdowns. Seven seven sounds right to me. But you could make the case for I think is his floor is probably twelve or thirteen for me. So I would say he's probably like eleven for me. Okay. Who's yourself? This missed the cut my seven Ono Beckham junior. Wow. Come on. Right. You know, I almost left them off. But, but. Should I leave him off and just bump TY? No. Listen, it now, state shirt, you're less ride hype. Why does he deserve the seven spot? Or why don't you have them higher because you gave me shit for Kyle Rudolph. My ranking of route off, but defend this number seven ranking of Odell Beckham. So Beckham has been on teams where he has been the clear the clear volume guy on the offense. Right. High percentage of target's flowing through him that will not be the case this year. Oh, they have two running backs the feed they have a tight end. They have Jarvis Landry who will certainly see a number of targets. Listen, I get it. Dell is great. He he has. He's probably the guy like he's number seven. He could be number one. He could certainly have a mon- a set of monster games. I, I even like him better in best ball because I think he will have some explosive games. Go back and having explosive game he's going to a new team. He's going to a team that has so much hype around it so much media attention. I think that is scary for this. Cleveland quarterback already there's already created a minor fracture. I know I'm overreacting I'm letting the hot take media machine gets me. But what do you think scan happen when the passion of Odell Beckham spills over and he starts fighting kicking us again. Well, then they'll fall in love with the kings gonna spy propose the kick. It's gonna spiral out of control again. This is more when I played these ranking games, it's kind of, like aware, where's the group where I'm going to target Odell, and I like them more than Tonio if those two guys were sitting there in this in the second round, I would guess, static because that, that's a great second round pick. I just I like six other guys better than Odio, my number six four the New Orleans Saints. Gimme michael. Thomas. Oh, maybe sixes to low. Maybe six is too low. But I think for me it was I the guys, I have above him are kind of well, couple are a little bit more like rolling the dice, guys. But Michael Thomas. I mean, what's the like about Michael Thomas? Maybe maybe I should have higher but. You know, he's in his fourth year drew Brees loves throwing him the ball. I mean you look at his past his three years, leak, ninety two one, oh, four one twenty five or sections touchdowns nine five nine what ten plus games in a dome. This guy should have another really big year and maybe maybe six is too low. I, I guess it just came down to me liking a couple other guys that people had ranked lowered as trending up and Thomas. I don't I don't think he's going to do one twenty five and nine. I think it will be a little less. I just I don't think you can really go up from that. So and. There's a chance. Drew Brees is hitting the wall. Like these these forty year old plus quarterbacks. It just can't go on forever. So that's why I don't have higher than six, but I certainly like him. Who's your number six Kramer into to piggyback in that the saints would become quote comfortable making him the highest paid receiver in the game? So that's a little scary for young guy in in, you know, hanging out in bourbon street. It sounds like they're trying to get a deal done by training camp. I don't know. Those guys, the guys who get a huge deal that are skill position will scary, right? A little bit a little bit. I. If he if he see to me, I think he trends down. I just don't think you can go up from one twenty five and nine. I think he's going to be like, you know, hundred catch seven guy, I actually think he. I think he will score at least many touchdowns that we'll, we'll talk we'll discuss this later shown because he's a little higher up on my list. Great. Who's your six number six? Mike Evans verse aeriens, Bruce areas Bruce Arians. Yes. I'm going to be high on Tampa and fantasy football this year. Unfortunately, but I just think I dove in John, I wrote it read a little profile about Bruce Arians kind of talked about what he plans to do in terms of that offense and leveraging James Winston strengths as he put it which is putting the ball down the field volume deep passing is what I think he said, I think Mike Evans. Maybe I'm too low at six but for me. I like Mike Evans more than Odell Beckham. Because I think the floor is much higher. That's the that's the justification there. And I again I ten I'm very excited about Tampa. Like, if I if I can end up with Mike Evans and Ronald Jones on some teams, I'm going to be very happy. No, Adam Humphreys notice, Sean Jackson. I mean James Winston is still really good at throwing the ball to the other team as well. Like I'm not trying to say they're going to be a great team. I don't necessarily think they're going to be a bounce back, like it's you know, this could be the year. The books take that step and make the playoffs. Yeah. You know what? Mike Evans didn't make my top ten list. Really? And I didn't have a tremendous. I didn't have a super strong opinion on them one way or the other. He just he just didn't crack my top ten I guess, I would probably have him in that twelve to fifteen range, just outside here. He's averaged one hundred and forty eight target. It's I guess the argument would be that Godwin and OJ Howard. Yeah. I'm high are no, Jay Howard, as far as who's gonna get the do you remember how good, Mike Evans made Johnny football. Look throwing that depot, Texas AM, Bruce Arians loves thrown at deep in Winston throws that inaccurate fluttering ball. It's perfect there. Mike evans. Here's the hot take. If I had some balls. If I had some balls, I would I probably would have put in put Mike Evans, even higher, I, I will absolutely be targeting in drafts drafting towards the end of the first round, I will be targeting Mike Evans in that second round pick. So you're going to wait so you see Mike Evans is a first round pick. No, the, the early second round pick. So like if you have the ten pick ten team league. Yeah, you're gonna he's gonna be your he's going to be our eleventh. I'm assuming it's going to be in that range. Yeah. I, I would absolutely consider him there. I just think he's another guy that just so much volume. And again a little bit about this offense of scheme. Coming in at number five. Gimme. Keenan Allen Keenan Allen, I'm I'm higher on Kita now. And then you are. He's. Yeah. He's just looked really good. I mean since that ACL injury. He's to really sure on years. Seventeen eighteen hundred two receptions, ninety seven receptions of thirteen hundred ninety three yards and seventeen eleven ninety six and two thousand eighteen and no tyrel Williams. Harold Williams was a big part of their offense, receiving wise. And I think I think Phillip as a calm is going to split the difference between Keenan and hunter, Henry. So I think both those guys are going to see an increase in production both in targets receptions, possibly even touch that. So it can be Keenan Allen number five. Joan who's your five. Juju. Okay. It's just Big Ben. I think he's gonna sling it. I think juju is gonna have some monster monster games. And I think his bad games are going to be fine. So high floor high ceiling, we don't really know what you can be without Tonio Brown. I guess there's that element of Kenny be a number one. I absolutely believe he can be a number one. And I think he kind of I feel like his style works, almost better for Ben and I think we're gonna see a lot of improv post over the middle. Touchdown type stuff. Yeah. I'm I think Mike Evans in juju are the guys that I'm higher than the average person. Well, I I'm even higher. Okay. On juju Smith Schuster, Ryan. But I'll I'll reveal that coming up. Oh, number four. Spot belongs to devante atoms of the Green Bay Packers. Since two thousand sixteen in Tonio Brown is the only person who's caught more. Touchdowns than devante Adams, Brown is at thirty six Adams's at thirty five. He's also had twenty eight red zone touchdowns in the past three years. I'm not super high on the Green Bay Packers. But again, he seems to be the number one option. You still have Aaron Rodgers their Aaron Rodgers while. I'm not high on the team, I think hit it Rogers and devante atoms. That's a combo. I'm looking to stack a lot during this DFS campaign. I think Aaron Rodgers is just going to be an F U mode. There is whatever beef he had with Mike McCarthy, he's ear to show. I know what I'm doing and Matt leflore bring it in his offense. But really Aaron Rodgers is going to do Aaron Rodgers. And now he's one the power struggle with the coach, he's going to get to do whatever he wants back there. He's going to be improvising. And he's going to be throwing the ball to define to Adams, the ton. I. I think they're going to be throwing the ball, ton. I think devante Adams is going to be getting a ton of targets. I agree with that statement. It's a fair statement to make run. It's very I mean, he had one hundred eleven or no sorry hundred eleven catches us on one sixty nine and targets, you could make a case and, and thirteen touchdowns. I think he I think he beats all three of those. I think he has more targets more catches and more touchdowns. All right. Volunteer Adams number or before yes, give us your before Julio Jones. This is maybe unfair. But this is all about the fact that I just there's clearly something about him finding man's them. That's it. I don't know what it is. Yes. He will be banged up as well. He will play through some stuff. He may be a decoy for a game or two. But that, that's why I couldn't put it in the top three Julio Jones didn't make my top ten. I know you just realize fuck. No. I mean I wouldn't. I was kind of picking through there. And this one is just a complete gut play. I've just looked at the receiver board. And I couldn't find a guy to put I couldn't find somewhere to take someone out that liked Julio Jones better than I. I'm not on board with the Matt Ryan era. I'm not on board with that offense. I think they this team isn't been the same since twenty eight and three and I think that's going to impact our offense and a blanket on the name, but whose the whose the young receiver Alvin rudely Calvin Ridley, I think really could impact the Julio Jones he led the NFL receiving yards and finished tied for third and catch it, so. No. I mean I'm I'm clearly contrarian here with not having Julio Jones on my top ten receivers list. I just don't see a monster game coming from Julio or monster season. And again injury history. Getting up there in age. So I think if you got a for me, it's like you got you got to in these lists. You got to kind of make some stance and for me my stand, you heard it in the tight end podcasts won't reveal which tight end I'm not high on, but for me it's just I think I think we may be turning the page on holy. Here's the thing, too. When you make these part of the reason you should make rankings because you can kind of see where you're ranking someone off of your team's just based on where they're going to get drafted Julio's, one of those guys, he's probably gonna go late first round early second. And maybe that's why in my head. I don't imagine myself drafting wholly-owned fantasy football because where he's going to go ADP average physician, I would never consider and like, yeah, if he really was around in the second or third round where you would pick a ten or or eleven or twelve receiver then yeah, it would probably take him, but it just it's just not gonna happen someone in your league is going to take him in the end of the first round. Right. I think unless you have Julio as top. Yeah. Unless you're taking Julio in the top ten picks you probably won't get them. I guess I, I mean again, I it's weird because especially with square people and. They just look at, oh hey this awesome your last year. They're not looking at project at all. And certainly, even if you're a sharp guy, you can make a good case for Julio again. I have number four. So I think we're splitting hairs here. But I don't think I'll find him having a lot of I will not have a lot of stock in him this year just based on how ranking them who number three shown the boat trip himself. Wow, owed L vaccum junior. Certainly personality in the locker room certainly a bit of a handful but huge upgrade at the quarterback position. Baker Mayfield, much better quarterback than Eli manning. Here we go. And you talk about, you know. Baker mayfield. Thrown to Mike Evans. Right, ryan. We're just talking about that now. That's Johnny football acre Baker Mayfield. Through it to some receivers at Oklahoma way didn't one receiver who's the receiver that he really. Who's what's up? What are you trying to say Sean, who is the Oklahoma receiver that caught a bunch of passes from him? I'm blanking on his name marquees, bran marquees, Brown get. Anyway. What I was getting at is OPEC's junior getting a play with the Baker Mayfield who I think, is getting over hyped but certainly is a nice upgrade. He I mean I get the Johnny football comparisons. It's kind of insulting the Baker Mayfield. Although Johnny easy to get them kind of confused, Johnny football never commented on another man's contract. And you're, you're kind of fucking around there, but I do think there this. Cleveland Browns locker room is a powder keg. But if you're Freddie kitchens, there's one guy, you know, you have to get the ball to. And that is oh, Beckham junior you have to your job depends on it and he's going to get a tremendous amount of targets and your Baker Mayfield. You wanna throw to a guy who's gonna get you tons of yards after the. Catch the crowd is going to go nuts for that. The crowd is just dying for football. Oto Beckham's gonna get like one hundred seventy targets even with Jarvis maybe I'm off on this, because I that's part of the reason I have questioned around him is I don't know if he's going to see all those targets. I don't I as to how well, it's going to work, I'm up in the air. But I think the target share alone is going to be so high that his catching ability his ability to get yards after catch it gives going to happen, forgets. I see it. I think like you're you've really locked in on the raiders situation like going wrong. You can I mean you could make harness same case for the Browns. Well, that's the problem. The Freddie kitchens thing. We haven't mentioned Freddie kitchen gyp. Maybe he's completely exposed. But to me, it's like I know John gruden's bed coach. I don't know if pretty kitchens as a bad coach, Sean and to me, it was like Cleveland is trending up. And maybe show getting ahead of ourselves with the hype. But Oakland is just Sean horrible. I mean, at least Gruden is something even if it's a caricature, Freddie. What do you think's gonna happen? The first time FREDDY kitchen gets in owed, Elle's face. That's not going to go. Well, the fuck is Freddie. Kitchens, exactly. And so what are they going to do to calm the situation? Throw del man. Man, we're not even talking about his potential for passing touchdowns. We had a deep ball. He does the row nice depot. Yeah. So, yeah. Gimme gimme the boat trip at number three. That's probably why should have Michael Thomas no-brainer here. I'm again, I was I was super high on him. I've been high on him. He's been top ten every year, he's played drew Brees likes throwing him the Paul. And I think we're going to see the touchdown stay around where they were. I think he's gonna get the bulk of the catches, I think having cooked. There will help him not see so much coverage. But quick, I got a. Oh, how Beckham and two thousand eighteen he was two for two for one hundred six yards and two touchdowns. Okay. That's bonus points. Right. That's that's four points for the yards and eight points for the touchdown. That's that's another twelve points. I was in the middle of talking about my I mean who I have ranked higher than ode L Beckham interest. Michael Thomas is a pure pure floor play in to me, the reason you take the running backs in the first round is because of all ume. Michael Thomas will see that same volume in wall. Maybe he doesn't have quite the ceiling as the guys at my two in one spot, and maybe even below like juju. I just think Michael Thomas is gonna get you so many points every week that, that floor is he's like what do you think twelve points a week minimum? I it just seems he's and I think the offense will continue to flow through him. I'm probably higher on him the most, but I think. Climb injuries slight slight. And that's why I haven't down at Saco. Glad we're doing video right now because everyone gets to see or you're my act out on that was YouTube dot com slash sports. Gaming podcasts, my number two receiver de'andre Hopkins. And to be honest, I had him he was ranked number one, but he fell one spot during this podcast as we talked Ryan, really. Yes. He's already dropping, but I, I love the Andre Hopkins. I mean, the guys just so fun to watch the athletic plays he makes. And again, Bill O'Brien guys, simple, man. Right. Like their offense is never anything tricky anything ever, like hard to figure out like. Hey, Sean Watson right around throw the football deandre Hopkins. Worried about his health. Not Hopkins Watson. Yeah. That that's a concern. But I think he has the full off season to he'll, you know, he had he was coming back of the, the style, the offensive line problems. Yeah, that's certainly, but Hopkins is a guy that even in two thousand seventeen when you know, when he was out when to Shawn Watson was out. He's still put up had ninety six catches thirteen touchdowns for almost fourteen hundred yards. I think he is, you know, QB independent of kind of the results. Hundred sixty three targets last year one fifteen catches eleven touchdowns. The guys just super consistent. I think he has another big year. And this is crazy. He had basically a career year last year in catches, and yards with fifteen seventy two yards and it turned out he was playing on torn ligaments in his shoulder. And they've said the Ligand so completely off the bone. Like this dude, you don't he's not a big guy, but the guy's a fucking gamer. Look, I, you know, I was gonna throw that out to help your argument 'cause he's also my number two. He was number one last year. I think I think he. I think he just he it's har-. You got he's got to be there. He's gotta be number two. At least I could see him being number one. He played a shitload of injuries. He's he has the opportunities. They play that the sandlot style all the things you said, I could see him having a similar year this year. I just I'm super high on my number one guy. And it sucks when Watson gets hurt, but even then it seems like Hopkins still gets his he's the bets. He's the best catcher of the football in the National Football League show. I was looking at that catch rate. He just he just grabs everything. And so you'd be silly to not have him as one of your first two receivers. He's definitely when, when you're looking at the mock draft, Sean and you're getting after the, the I don't know for me. It's the big five for the running backs after them. When you're talking about do I do I like Lebanon bell? Do I like David Johnson? Or do I like? De'andre hopkins. Like he's in there for me so Deandra hop if he's a monster. He's just a monster love it. Nope. I don't love the nickname he should. He should figure some calls him that my number one receiver is for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Ju ju Smith Schuster. Really, you're gonna put his it says the number one. Well, he does he does split out, and he does. Well, that's a great point. Right. Because when they scored the go ahead touchdown in the Super Bowl, he was as a receiver. So great point. And the two tight end sets using he will be split at as a receiver. No this, this belongs juju Smith Schuster. I love guys, especially in the receiver position that third or fourth year. They showed you, your one year to high production, the level of athleticism, and now year three or four year five this is where they start to figure out the different routes had to be crafty, how to get that separation. You combine that with the, the huge targets that are. Up for grabs. We just said, what did he I mean, Antonio Brown had an insane amount of targets between him and Jesse James. That's over over two hundred plus targets that are up for grabs and you to one hundred eleven catches plane within Tonio Brown. The, the ceiling is the floor. Ryan, wow. That's that's. Michael Jordan set, I think once the ceiling is the floor and he this guy is just injuries aside. I mean he only played thirteen games. He started thirteen games at one hundred eleven catches, if this guy can be healthy the entire season and the yards after catch in two thousand seventeen in two thousand eighteen his longest catch scrimmage, ninety seven yard. You're so fired up to ninety seven. What's up? I mean to me, this is just finding that. Yeah, it just screams value because I feel like he's not getting not enough. People are talking about what juju is gonna have this year. Now, I guess, the, the scary thing is Big Ben hitting the wall, hanging on by read his health, and that's legit concern. Yeah. That aside I'm I'm all in on juju. Same reason, I liked Vance McDonald, he, and I like him too. I think he does have that high high upside, I think there's the concern of Ben there. But God, so many opportunities like you said he performed within Tonio Brown. So you can only imagine what that will look like with Brown gone. Sean. Yes. Two thousand fourteen Aaron Rodgers had thirty eight touchdowns two thousand fifteen Aaron Rodgers thirty one touchdowns two thousand sixteen had forty touchdowns. He got hurt in two thousand seventeen I'm going to throw that out last year. He only twenty five touchdown shown devante Adams was the number three fantasy wide receiver when Aaron Rodgers only through for twenty five touchdowns. The floor is the. Whatever the fuck you just said to me, when I'm having that discussion after those first five picks of who I wanna take hard for me to look past devante Adams. Yeah. Aaron Rodgers is still Aaron Rodgers. I know we like de'andre Hopkins because it does Shawn Watson, and that style. But devante Adams gets his weekend and week out he averitt what did he again fantasy prose? But Adams is the only receiver in the NFL who hit that know who hit was a top twenty four wide receiver every game last year. Consistency. Aaron Rodgers and some in general. Touchdown regression for the Packers. Yeah, that's a good and potentially more volume based on the new offense. All of those things combined. When I have the number six pick. I'm not taking Levy on bell. I'm taking Davante Adams. I'm not taking David Johnson. I'm making devante atoms to me, and now that we have our lists. We can make an informed decision because on the tight ends podcast. We said where would you where does Travis Kelsey fall? You're wide receivers. So if you're looking at your ranking Sean in which spot, you slot Travis Kelsey, not the slot house a slot. I would put him at four and a half. Oh, well chip, but I'm Michael Thomas six, but. No, I'll I'll go six and a half. I would have him a T Y Hilton below Michael Thomas. So if I'm if I'm talking about a standard league or you just have that one tight on spot. He's number eight after Odell because all those other receivers to me have immense ceilings. Yeah, if we're talking f- f PC. I'm taking him. He's in the group with devante Adams, deandre Hopkins at number six, I'm considering Travis Kelsey. Yeah. You know. So anyway, I just, I think you're going to think about this, Sean. And we're gonna record something closer to the season, where we talk about fantasy football and you're going to be all over Davante Adams, because all we're going to be talking about how is how this Green Bay offense is going to regress Aaron Rodgers is not going to find he, he averaged less than two touchdowns. A game. Sean. No, that's a great point. That is not going to happen next year. Aaron Rodgers will average two and a half touchdowns. A game. Just I just don't see how he doesn't. So Demonte Adams is my number one guy do do we wanna play the game where we throw out some some late rounders Tosseh anyone any receiver? You, you. We haven't mentioned I guess. I mean, there's lots that you're just Dora throat, one sleeper run. Well, we've been talking a lot about Pittsburgh. You know, who's on Pittsburgh now shown, Dante Moncrieff someone else is going to have to catch some passes and he's going super super late, like he's going in the in the sixty to seventy range for wide receivers. So I certainly again when you're looking for sleepers at the wide receiver position part of the battle is looking for opportunity, right? Yep. And being the number two guy or the number three guy in a in an offense where we're gonna see a lot of passing. I think that's what you have to target. Right. What is ally? Manning like to do he likes to throw it to the slot. The slot house a slot. You likes to check it down. He's going to need some easy completion saquon. Barkley is not not asleep or wide receiver. No, but I think I think golden Tate because no one's going to draft him very high. I think he could get a lot of easy receptions. He didn't fit well in the eagles offense. But in the in the giants low octane office. I will say he will very easily be, don't you? Are you just see Eli dropping back like the getting a lot of pressure? Just checking the golden Tate who's like five yards. Also had nice metrics running on the outside too. I think that was a ball focus thing, regardless. I I love the angle because I'm not someone who's going to be a Homer with fantasy football now. Yes, I'm going to take saquon Barkley, but you probably need the first pick to take saquon Barkley. When I'm looking to take other giants, this is the kind of thing. I like sterling shepherd, you know, I don't know where shepherd I don't he's a. They're ranked right around the same area looks and for me, golden Tate's the play. And maybe it's a sleeper, but we've seen shepherd perform. I think both of those guys could have productive year years. I think this offense is going to I mean Sean, they scored the most touchdown in the division last year. I think they're going to be able to put up some points. And I think both of those receivers will be relevant. What sucks you to pick one? So I like your angle golden Tate. He's, he's a jersey kid. We gotta get behind them. Corey Davis is a guy that I again we see him ranked lower than guys like Tyler Boyd. Alan Robinson Robbie Anderson. I don't get it. I think Corey Davis is a stud. I think Corey Davis has had a really shitty quarterback situation that I understand it's the same quarterback situation. But to me Corey Davis looks like a number one receiver. And he's, he's being drafted pretty late. He's ranked somewhere in the thirties for wide receivers. A another guy I love. I'm going to have a lot of him just because of the situation where he will certainly end up going, and that is another Pittsburgh guy. James, washington. Again, I will if you're in best ball or regular were with a really deep bench. It's okay to end up with Washington and Moncrieff. But I just. You need to find the p the offense is we're, we're going to see a lot of pass catching, and that brings me to my other guy. And that's marquees Valez scantly, again, lately, we're talking in the forty to fifty range, but again, stat offense, will move the ball receivers will score. So. You got an shown. Yeah. This is just a this is a random guy who is it from the eagles. Now. He's from the Seahawks. Okay. He's, he's going to be getting. I think Doug Baldwin, I mean, what's up with Doug Baldwin see just like done. He's yeah. I think he's done. Yeah. So this guy is basically slotted into start alongside Tyler Lockett. And that is David Moore, you liked him last year. I liked him last year. Maybe I was a little bit early, but he did have. Well, he did have premature. No one talked about this guy, and he had five or CV touchdowns and on twenty six cats. Sean, you talked about him. No, I did. And he's a guy that, you know, he's like eightieth receiver seventy fifth like this is a guy that I'm already looking at. I think he's gonna get a huge increase in targets receptions and touchdowns. He's one of those guys this again, is why I say I recommend go into these local team, sub read. It's because you could just scroll through and see, like who are the guys that everyone's talking about. And this David Moore guy came up on my radar because all the Seattle beat writers were writing about him and tried to get the curve. Maybe it was a little too ahead. But clearly Russell Wilson likes him and Russell Wilson's here to stay. So. Yeah. Give me some David Moore, another guy, I'm going back to the well from last year. Trae Krahn Smith again New Orleans he had he, I think he was the research. Uber who caught drew Brees is record record-setting. Touchdown. He again volume offense is in. You know what Shawn remember when John Brown was lighting up for Zona? Yes. And then he went to Baltimore and Lamar Jackson couldn't throw the ball. He's now on buffalo strange pairing here quarterback not super accurate but has massive arm with kind of a nice deep ball receiver. Again best ball. Selection may be here, but John Brown. I like that angle. And right around that same kind of ranking area Emmanuel Sanders, was awesome last year. Yeah. I get it. He's old. Nobody else. Oh, he's coming off in Killys. I get it. He's old. But it was a December Killys. Am I reading the wrong with isn't? He isn't. He going did. I not read that he saying he's coming back. Yeah. But I just think he's gonna get he's going. So late. Sean, I understand manual Sanders, uncertain hope be back from achilles injury. I'm seeing right here. He'll be he's, he's expected to return in mid-july. Okay. Anyway, I what you're saying. At the rankings, I'm looking at right now. He's number fifty nine. Yeah. I, I saw him in the eighties. So you're right. Maybe he is the guy that he's the number one receiver if he's playing that's true. I'm trying to give people some diamonds some deep dives. All right. What was that gimmick, that guy, we Diamond's food, gazes give out one Gezi? Yeah. Sure. Throat, if you're Gezi, jeez Amari Cooper, as a top ten receiver. That's my food Gezi. Get. Oh, he had so many targets. All right. Two words to. Ota prescott. He's about to get paid right more than more than Carson Wentz. How do you think that's gonna go? Yeah. Again. I just don't see it. John have we talked about the Tyler Boyd would kind of be my food as he just because I'm higher on AJ green and he seems a little overrated. He definitely feels like one of these hype guys this, like, and frankly, I think DJ Moore's another guy, you gotta be careful with Cam Newton's just gonna throw overpass. O K to, to McCaffrey. I got news for you. Cam Newton, we'll Greer is the year baby. If I if I if I'm over at my bookie AG will Greer forty two one rookie of the year. Stop it. He's gonna play he's going to he's going to win eight games. You're descr Wendy, you draft high recount. No, like, well, I wouldn't be appeals. He plays the Roger Goodell as much as you want to criticize Roger Goodell. He's not a monster right now, he kind of is. But he will as it who's the exact monster. Roger Goodell will make sure the tyreek hill. Suspension news is before people start drafting. Yes, he will it'll be it'll be like put out like fourth of July afternoon. And then he'll appeal. Right. He can't let that guy play. Right. No, that'll do it. Thank you for participating in the Spurs game. And you've got somewhere to go show and makes you check out the fantasy football preview on tight ends as well. And check us out YouTube dot com slash sports. Game lead podcast. And as always on the I tunes rate review and share gives that five stars. We need that five serves. We crave to keep the free content train a role in for the sports pack s I'm Sean stack in the money green, and he is Ryan Cajon. Thank you, Kramer. Let it right.

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Week 3 Wrap up! Week 4 Strap up!

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Week 3 Wrap up! Week 4 Strap up!

"What's up y'all welcome back to the show fantasy football you I'm going to be giving you guys all the information you guys need to know about this last week's performances in addition, and we'll be looking forward to this upcoming weeks performances we got highlights from around the League teams that played well teams that played horrible. Teams that got hurt. The most speak teams to benefited the most from this week top waiver wire ads we'll be talking fantasy football players, panic or patients bolden holds or high end sell. We talking top teams will be handing out some awards on our Dean's list be naming this week's MVP's stay tuned. For our first matchup over the weekend, we had the bills versus the rams, the bills one, this one, thirty, five, thirty, two, the rams showed up in this one very early with jet lag, they were down twenty eight to three before they eliminated at twenty five point deficit. Josh Allen at the end of the game hit tyler. Kroft for go ahead touchdown with only fifteen seconds to go. Cooper Cup in this one had nine receptions, one, hundred, seven yards and a touchdown. Gerald Henderson had twenty attempts hundred and fourteen yards and a touchdown Josh Allen Twenty four, thirty, three for three hundred eleven yards in five total touchdowns Beasley six receptions, hundred yards Stefan digs for receptions for forty nine yards and a touchdown. For a second game, we have the bears versus the Falcons Bears One thirty to twenty, six, one a lead very early in this one that led to Mr. Bean Bench in the third quarter Mitch, Trubisky was only thirteen of twenty two for one hundred, twenty, eight yards, I touchdown and pick before being benched Nick foles comes in relief does what Nick Foles does best those for sixteen completions out of twenty nine, one, hundred, eighty yards, three touchdowns in pick. Your Falcons, Fan you guys did it again and no. I'm actually not talking about not recovering an onside kick and losing a game. But I am talking about letting up another sixteen point lead in the fourth quarter and you guys let it up in only six and a half minutes to go you guys become the first team in NFL history to lose back to back games in which you guys led by fifteen or more points entering the fourth quarter. Some highlights Calvin Ridley five receptions hundred and ten yards. CHICAGO, Allen Robinson gets back on track this week ten receptions for one hundred, twenty, three yards and a touchdown and surprise tight end outburst Jimmy Graham shows up on the map six receptions, six yards. Next Washington verse Cleveland Cleveland This One thirty, four twenty however, Cleveland didn't look like a solid football team at the start of this one actually looked like they were still hung over from last week's win against the Cincinnati Bengals, which is nothing to really celebrate about. But anyhow the browns down seventeen seven at the half and they come back down score Washington football team twenty, seven to three in the second half Nick. Chubb hundred and eight rushing yards to TD's Terry maclaurin four receptions for eighty three yards. In this one forty niners giants forty niners when this one pretty handedly thirty, six nine not much to say about this one because the giants just never really had a chance Jack? McKinnon thirty eight rushing yards three receptions for thirty nine receiving yards a touchdown Jeff Wilson fifteen rushing yards three receptions fifty, fifty, four receiving yards into TD's. And for the New York giants Not much say Daniel Jones lead you guys in rushing five times forty nine yards. No wonder why you guys lost. One of the closer games that occurred over the weekend steelers versus the Texans still able to escape out with the win here twenty, eight, twenty, one, the Shawn. Watson keeps it close but not close enough despite the team only having twenty nine rushing yards on the day, I don't know how you can have an NFL football game and only get twenty nine rushing yards in only lose by seven but they did highlights for the Texans Randall Cobb four receptions ninety five yards and a touchdown will fuller vive receptions, fifty, four yards and a touchdown. Dealers James Garner hundred nine yards rushing for receptions, forty yards, and a touchdown. Eric? Hebron finally makes his steeler appearance five receptions fifty two yards and a touchdown and Juju Smith Schuster four receptions, forty three yards and a touchdown patriots versus Biggest Raiders Patriots Won Pretty Convincingly Thirty six twenty biggest escort at least thirty four points and each of its first two games. But if you know anything about big bad bill was not about to be the third nor was going to let Jon Gruden get his first dub against him. That's interesting to note. Raiders Josh Jacobs Seventy one yards rushing hunter renfro six receptions, eighty four yards and a touchdown for the patriots Sony Michelle hundred and seventeen rushing yards and rex burkhead forty, nine rushing yards seven receptions forty nine receiving yards and three total touchdowns. Titans Vikings Titans were able to squeeze this one out thirty. One thirty is an up and down Game Titan stuck to the game plan. They will score thirty one points out ten L. throwing a touchdown pass pretty impressive. But you know what? This is what they do give ball Derrick Henry Derrick. Henry. Got Twenty two carries gets hundred nineteen yards, two touchdowns another individual who showed up on the scene Khalifa. Raymond with the absence of this man had no receptions in the first two games and he gets three receptions. One hundred, eighteen years, Anna tote. Okay for the Minnesota Vikings delvin Cook gets his usual dosage twenty eight carries a hundred and eighty one yards rushing. He gets the touchdown and Justin Jefferson. The rookie comes out of nowhere today with nine receptions one, hundred, seventy, five yards and a touchdown as well. But the biggest person of all. Stephen Gostkowski Hausky six for six on field goals next up cold his jets colts beat the tar out of these guys. Thirty six to seven is a complete disappointment to watch if you were a jets Fan Sam Darnold the best player for the colts team. threw. Three picks two of them going for pick sixes the calls defense outscored the jets offense twelve to seven. Embarrassing Panthers Chargers Panthers Twenty One chargers sixteen. Carolina had come into the game having zero sacks in allowing sixty five points in two games and on Sunday they were able to get to sacks and three turnovers to help him get in victory. So when the game Justin Herbert goes down and was replaced by some dude named stick that I've never heard of before and he had all the accessories of good quarterback visor abandoned under his home. It guess out there you know he's looks like he's he knows what he's doing and before l. it could run a play they clearly must have known something i. Didn't didn't trust them to run a play because they called a timeout after Herbert got injured rain to the sideline, check them out, call a timeout before stick it even snap the ball and they replace them with Herbert. So they clearly didn't think that stick was going to get the job done and I think with a name like stick I don't really blame them and to think that the charges almost had a chance to win on the last play of the game a hook and ladder pitch was just behind actor from Keenan Allen and it just didn't happen. My Davison, this one, forty, six yards, eight receptions for forty five receiving yards a touchdown Robbie Anderson five receptions for fifty five yards. Austin ECKER fifty nine rushing yards, eleven receptions for eighty four receiving yards in two touchdowns. Gin Allen was boss today thirteen receptions for a hundred and thirty two receiving yards and a touchdown buccaneers. broncos bucks when this one, twenty, eight to ten prior to Sunday. The broncos were the only team with a winning record against Tom Brady however now Tom Brady's even that series at an even nine and nine for the Bucks Godwin five receptions sixty four yards and a touchdown Mike. Evans. Pretty relaxed day to targets. To receptions, two yards in two touchdowns, GRONK emerged as a Tampa Bay tight end for six receptions for forty eight yards and Brady goes twenty five or thirty, eight to ninety seven and three touchdowns in for the broncos. Jerry. Judy five receptions for fifty five yards in this one lions took on the cardinals lands on this one, twenty, six, twenty, three with a map prater game winning field goal as time is expiring. Murray came crashing back down to Earth this week after two great opening season Games Murray forgot color he was wearing he was de threw three picks in this Matthew Stafford Twenty, two of thirty, one to seventy for two touchdowns can golladay six receptions, fifty yards and a touchdown. Fair Zona de Hopkins Continues Absolute Beasts Campaign this year ten receptions for one hundred and thirty seven yards. India's Abella shows up in this one, four receptions, forty seven yards and two touchdowns in Kyla Mary. Despite the three picks, he threw three touchdowns one on the one on the ground in through twenty three of thirty five seahawks taking on the cowboys seahawks win this one, thirty, eight, thirty, one and a really really great but close game rush was doing Russ. Out here and I just WANNA. Say That you know I feel for you guys on the East Coast that did not get to see this game You guys got stuck watching buccaneers broncos game on. Fox while America's game of the Week Seok First Dallas is on the NFL Sunday ticket. So if you didn't have the NFL Sunday ticket, you didn't have red zone. You didn't get to watch this game and I'm sorry for that. But let's get right into A. Thirty seven and fifty, seven, four, hundred, seventy, two, yards, three touchdowns, two picks Michael Gallup six, receptions one, hundred, thirty, eight yards a touchdown said Wilson five receptions one hundred and seven yards two touchdowns Zeke. Thirty, four rushing yards, six receptions, twenty four receiving yards and a touchdown. And then, Russ? Russ twenty seven forty three hundred and fifteen yards, five touchdown passes decay metcalf four receptions, one, hundred, ten yards, and a touchdown in tile walk it nine receptions, one hundred yards and gets the hat trick with three touchdowns in this one. Sunday concluded with absolute heavyweight matchup between the packers and the saints backers were able to edge out the saints in this one, Thirty, seven thirty is an absolute brenner came down to the wire and it came down to who is going to make a mistake I take some hill, fumbled the snap, and it just seemed to be the difference maker to make sure the packers won the game this one. Major statistics here Aaron Rodgers Twenty one of thirty, two to eighty three, three touchdowns. He looks phenomenal Aaron Jones, sixty nine rushing yards and a touchdown Adam lazard. Keeping it up for devante Adams being absent six receptions one, hundred, forty, six yards in touchdown. The Saints Drew Brees Twenty Nine to thirty, six to eighty eight and three touchdowns album kamera fifty, eight rushing yards, thirteen receptions, hundred and thirty nine receiving yards, two touchdowns and Emmanuel Sanders his first touchdown as the same for receptions, fifty six yards, and that touchdown with this win Matt low-floor Becomes Sixteen in three as the packers head coach touching on Thursdays. MATCHUP DOT COM, Jaguars, the dolphins ran away with this one winning thirty one thirteen is absolute lopsided for Miami, and you don't get to see that very often this Patrick Eighteen of twenty one, hundred, sixty yards, two touchdowns, thirty eight rushing yards for fitzy and a touchdown devante parker five receptions sixty nine yards for the Jaguars James Robinson. Forty six rushing yards two touchdowns six receptions for eighty three yards in this one. Week three wrapped up on Monday night chiefs Ravens, and it's nice to see that there was a good Monday night football game on. Chiefs when this thirty, four twenty. Potential Matchup of the AFC championship game. It was all chiefs in this one folks Amar Jackson under a hundred yards passing on the day. But for Patrick Mahomes, he was thirty one of forty, two, three, hundred and eighty five yards passing four passing touchdowns including one rushing touchdowns. Well, Clyde Edwards layer twenty rushes sixty, four yards, five receptions, seventy yards, trips, cousy six receptions, eighty seven yards, tyreek hill, five receptions, seventy, seven yards, and touchdown. For Baltimore wasn't much offense. Like I said the Mark Jackson only fifteen pass completions at a twenty eight in ninety seven yards. A touchdown and honestly looked like a running back in this one he had rushed for eighty four yards. He was more lucid a runner than he was as a passer so not bad for running back. Let's get into teams that played well in week three. First team up on the list the Seattle seahawks without question Russell Wilson Continues Mvp campaign played really well against the cowboys DJ metcalf had a day Tyler Lockett today and the seahawks keep moving stay at three and Oh, next up on the list, the packers, the packers had a phenomenal win on Sunday night against the saints doing it without Demonte Atoms, which was a huge plus and I think they saw a bunch of other key players step up in that offense for Green Bay. which puts them right at the top of the list of teams that played really well, records may even be the team to be in the NFL right now you can. Argue them between the seahawks or the Ravens or the Kansas City chiefs but packers are right up there at the one of the best teams in the League and my third performance that I thought who played really well where the buffalo bills thing that there was a lot of questions coming into this weekend about whether or not the bills were legit and how they beat up on some some less caliber teams over the first couple of weeks of the season and how that it was going to be a legitimate test when they played the rams over the weekend and without fail it was a heck of a match up between the two teams but I. To, see the the buffalo bills put up thirty five points against the rams and watch Josh Allen take them on a game winning drive down the field was very encouraging and think if you're a Buffalo Bills Fan, you've got to feel pretty confident that your team is legit this year now that we've talked about the teams that have played well during week three let's talk about teams that didn't play so hot. I up on the list. Arizona cardinals. Calum Murray three interceptions guys lost to bad Detroit lions team. You guys had all the momentum in the world to the first two weeks of the season. People are talking about Kyla Murray, his MVP campaign and how unstoppable this Arizona Cardinals team looks. Now I WANNA make make note that you guys do play and and a tough NFC west division and looking at you guys a schedule You guys were slated to legitimately be five zero before the schedule gets really tough. You guys play Carolina next, which is a very winnable game. Guys played the jets after that, which is a guarantee dub and then after that. Schedule, gets a lot harder. That's Dallas the seahawks twice play New England you play the rams twice you play San Francisco twice. So all very competitive tight games to wrap up the season and you know to think that you guys drop one that you guys should have had with with ease and confidence moving is into a legitimate place where we could be talking about after the first five weeks of being five now. So I do think that you guys are a little bit of trouble here losing that that when that you guys it may come back to haunt you towards the end of the season. Second team that I thought played bad Atlanta. The fact that you guys blew another fifteen point lead in the fourth quarter is just unexcusable. You guys offensively have played so well, even without Julio Jones have been able to throw the ball around the yard score bunch of points but you ask just so bad on defense and I think that's that's detrimental to the entire team when you guys lose the game on defense for three consecutive games and it hasn't been because of the offense, the offense has been clicking and has been moving. Thirteen that played bad was the the Houston Texans guys are being very to D and have to come up with way to move the ball. You know you guys need to be able to establish the run game. The Shawn Watson needs to play a little bit better. You only had one rush against steelers defense on Sunday, which isn't GonNa cut it. I think he needs to be more mobile needs to hit some more pass pass attempts knee also needs to be able to establish that run game. Now. Let's talk who benefited the most from this weekend's games I up on my list F Chicago. Chicago moves to three. No. After a heck of a comeback against the Atlanta. Falcons in this one, Nick foles rise to the occasion. I. Think that. The Chicago bears found an appropriate way to discard Mitch Trubisky and put in the clearcut better quarterback that I've been saying since the start of the season that they should have done but I think they found an appropriate way to put Nick foles into the fold and not only did he come in but he played well and he carried this team to a dramatic deficit to win the game and I think that the Chicago bears going to feed off that and are going to continue to play well under Nick foles rain. Next up on the list I think the forty niners benefited the most from this weekend he has played a bad new, York giants team, and the fact that you guys were able to not only win that game. But when that came pretty convincingly with your jv squad and you guys did it without all of your best players was nice to see you guys were able to relax and be. Able. To heal up although you guys did lose a bunch more players during this game. The fact that you guys were able to rest those guys and when this game pretty convincingly had to make you guys feel good moving into next week who this week the most I think for us up on the list is the Atlanta Falcons no I keep talking about them a lot but the Atlanta Falcons. They should be legitimately to and one. You could even argue that they should be three now and I think when you look at the record and you see a win three in a very jam-packed division the fact that they may not they're probably not gonNA, make the playoffs. Now you know three weeks into the season there's a long season ago, but it's I don't think that's It's far fetched to say I don't think they're gonNA make the playoffs after dropping the first three games like that, and to see that it could be the exact opposite and it could be three know minimum to one to the last two weeks they should have won both games. And now you guys are steering three in the face. I think that you guys this week really crushed you guys. Next up Minnesota Vikings, you guys to a win three guys lose a nail biter this week guys played well, guys tried to find a way to to win and get some of the young guys involved. You stuck to your game plan. You guys ran the ball hard who has found Justin Jefferson and you guys got him involved got Adam thiel and involved in it still wasn't enough. You guys lost at the Buzzer. So I think this week kills you guys the fact that you guys. Are Owen three again with a with a very tough division I don't think that you guys are going to be making the playoffs either and it's sad because we're only three weeks but it's unfortunate that you guys are all in three because I do think that you guys are at least one or two games better than that. Right now, you guys should be one in two or two and one at least. But the fact that you guys lost again I think this week killed you. The saints. Another team this week. Really hurt. I don't even think it was this week that I thought guys played phenomenal on Sunday night. The fact is that you guys just played the packers who played better and I didn't think you could play much better than you is in New Orleans. But the fact is that you guys are scaring one and two in the face you guys shouldn't have lost last week against Las Vegas Raiders but you guys did you guys draft draft one and you guys dropped another one against the packers? And I think it's GonNa be hard and a tight division to be making these games up on the on the fly I do think that you guys are still a playoff team. There's not a doubt in my mind fact you guys are playing without Michael Thomas I think you guys will bounce back but this week definitely did hurt you guys there's GonNa be some sense of urgency moving forward from you guys last but not least Houston. This we killed you. You guys are Owen. Three. Now I can sit here all day long and say how bad you guys are. The reality is you two should not be three. Unfortunate part is you guys just got stuck playing three really good football teams to open up the season I feel honestly feel Kinda bad for you guys 'cause that's that's a tough way to start the season. Now as moving into some more fantasy news, we're GONNA. Be Talking top waiver wire ads this week after another week where people were injury-ridden not nearly as bad as last week we're GONNA be talking who and why you guys should be adding these guys. Let's get right to it. I I just in Jefferson if he's available Adam he, he should be available in a lot of leagues you know looking at weeks one, two, three things are trending in a better direction. Week one two receptions twenty six yards we to three receptions forty four yards week three, a massive outbursts, seven receptions for one, hundred, seventy, five yards and a touchdown. So the production is getting better. The only downside to adding Justin Jefferson is the fact that. The Minnesota. Vikings don't throw the ball a whole. Heck of a lot I think kirk cousins had sixteen completions. He was like sixteen for Twenty six over the weekend. That's That's not that those aren't great fantasy outputs for if you're going to pick up a wide receiver so I would, I would definitely keep an eye on that. But if if just Jefferson is available in your leagues I, think I, think I'm reaching for him and grabbing him. Now, the person on my must add list. This week is miles gaskin. He's only twenty percent rostered is at double digit points in the last three weeks fourteen points plus the last two weeks alone he's made it pretty convincing that he's the go-to Guy with that team next up on the list in Tokyo Gibson. Is Roster than seventy, five percent leaks but you twenty five percent is out. There is roster Dan I think you should Gash reach out there and roster him week one, he at thirty, six rushing yards, you know to to receptions eight yards, not a great performance only six point four points we to came in with fifty five yards and a touchdown and got twelve point, two points and week three, forty, nine rushing yards and touchdown with three receptions your. So you at thirteen point. So I think that things are trending in the right direction for him and I think he's becoming the lead back there in Washington Next up moala Cox while Cox this week at three receptions for fifty yards and a touchdown which was great at fourteen fantasy points to five receptions. One hundred eleven yards. In Sixteen points we've won only four four fantasy points. It's only rostered in one point, four percent of the League's now I. Know The injury bug hasn't hit the tight end position all of yet, but I do think that Mo- alcock is something that I would keep in the back of my mind is not an absolute must add but I think that if you're if you're searching for those byways I, think more lake hawks is someone I'd keep in mind specially because even with the return of Jack Doyle. He's still saw a bunch of targets come his way and he definitely got more receptions than Jack Doyle did. So I would I would be just monitoring that if you are in search of a tight end and you know maybe you keep that in their back pocket as Nice little sleep before you moving forward towards those by weeks t higgins thing t higgins is developing well in Cincinnati had five receptions, forty yards in two touchdowns. This weekend, what I love most about him is that Joe Borough has thrown one hundred and forty one past tense over the course of the first three games. That's forty something passed the Times per game and he's completed the ball ninety one times. So as definitely encouraging to know that he's hooking the ball around the yard if you're if you're in search for a wide receiver, anything, not against might be the guy last but not least. Allen Lazard. Allen Lazard had a massive day six receptions one, hundred, forty, six yards and a touchdown. He's played better over the last two weeks but even with the return of Dante atoms over the course of the next week, which I'm assuming he might he'll probably be back against the Atlanta but I wouldn't exactly count on it because it is Atlanta and that they are applying really really well considering that they don't have them he might take one more week in just he'll up. But even if demonte Adams does return for next week, they are playing Atlanta. So I do think that Allen Lazard is a good person grab here if you are in search of a wider. Let's talk pop. Stock patients or panic. Smashing that panic button on some of our guys already and I share em I'm panicking. I don't know whether I'm going to jump ship or not, but I'm definitely panicking. Definitely caused for conversation in thinking about it and looking around your leagues in considering trading. Let's get into it. I up on my list T. Y. Hilton. Hilton owner, you know my pain in pissing me off the first three weeks of the season. Every week of the season with the anticipation that this is the week he's to blow off is do what he did last year in previous years he's GonNa be Keenan Allen to Philip rivers like it was going to happen. There's no questions about it. The first of the season hasn't been the case to I Hilton just this last weekend plays the New York jets has three targets. Three. This isn't t y Hilton that I knew. Delhi. Not Against the jets. Three targets he had three receptions for fifty two yards he was the leading receiver. yardage. But my concern is the target share. There is definitely guys on this roster that are getting more targets than T Y Hilton, and why is that? because. T Y Hilton is a Baller T. Y. Hilton needs to be getting more targets regardless of your winning by lot or you're losing by a lot he needs to be the focal point of that offense for me to be satisfied starting lineup every week. Three targets aren't going to do it. That's for darn sure because t t y Hilton you know is is an in between her you know he's he's GonNa get your sixty six receptions, forty five yards and a touchdown. He's not going to be a barn burner just blow by people for three receptions one hundred and eighteen yards and a touchdown it's going to happen. You know so. I'm not smashing the panic button on T. Y. Hilton yet. I'M GONNA BE PATIENT Because they have been playing in front and that they're the Chicago, bears this weekend who have led up one hundred, ten yards to Calvin Ridley. This most previous weekend now getting ty Hilton's Calvin Ridley. I I don't think I don't think I'm starting in this weekend. If I got better options and better match ups I don't think I'm starting T Y Hilton I don't know if it's time to smash the panic button yet because I don't think you're going to get much in in trade value for him. So I will be patient with him but I think at the very best he may be able to start my flex spot that's about it. Next, up Kenyan? Drake. Thing Kenyon. Is. Is. Upsetting a lot of owners right now. And they it's cost some some games. Because when you drafted. Kenyan Drake Drafted him at the end of the first round. Beginning of the second round mid second you and drafted him with intentions that he is GonNa be a baller for you drafted him with the intentions that he was going to do exactly what he did at the end of last year. Reality is that hasn't been the case he hasn't been in passing in the passing game in fact. He's only got five targets in three games five. But why is? You know when when they can when customers snaps Bata, the gun and all he has to do is just flick his wrist over to the Andre Hopkins and watch them run. That's just as good as a as a run. You know those check downs they're not. They're not there right now for Kenyan drake, you know where he'd be getting four or five receptions for twenty five yards and a touchdown. Kendrick have touchdown on the season is got one. Kendrick at one touchdown on the season. He's always been over minded by by Mary the running game. Calamari, had another rushing touchdown over the weekend. So my smashing the panic button on Kenyan drake. I don't think so and here's why. I. Look at their favorable matchups they got Carolina. New York jets in Dallas. Three straight. Games. Out I think he's GonNa be able to do some work against Carolina and the jets for sure when it comes to that dowse game I, think it's going to be much more competitive where he is going to be involved in that passing game. So I'm not smashing the bun the panic button on Kenyan drake yet specially with dripping you drafted him as high as you did but it is for concern and I think some people are sweating right now and I think I think you guys until you see a better fantasy performance out of him I. Think you guys have every right to be sweating. Next up Joe, mixing. Joe Mixon again drafted just around or two later then Kenyan drake and mostly eggs can say about Joe Mixon is that the production hasn't been there but the volume has and volume's always important just talking about t y Hilton. He's averaging nineteen point, seven touches a game. Just, great. Problem is production hasn't been there. In fact, he doesn't have a touchdown the season. Averaging less than three point, two yards a carry, and he hasn't had many receptions either out of the backfield found Joe Mixon owner I'm concerned. I. Think. I'm smashing that panic button on Joe Mixon. Think you need to see what's out there we lost we treat him for trade him while he's still has value. I'll tell you that Cincinnati bengals teams got a serious schedule up in front of them with your place of really solid defenses that I don't think Joe Mixon. Is GonNa Farewell Against. Thing it's time fear Joe. mixon owner to smash panic button and see what's what you can get out there for them. Last but not least brandin cooks, brandin cooks some people are like Oh yeah. He's gay. He's GonNa. Be Houston's number one out and you know he's going to be great alongside will fuller. He'll. He'll pick up the plaque of de'andre Hopkins. That's no longer there and you know he'll have a thousand yards and that very well may be true. But. Over the first three weeks, he hasn't he hasn't shown it. He's been battling quadriceps injury. Over the first three weeks and. Thankful that he's out there I guess. I guess you can say that even though he hasn't been really playing all that well that he's still led the team in targets, it five five targets for the game. There's just this weekend guests. That's encouraging. The only other thing that I can say it's encouraging is that he plays Minnesota next week. Defense ranked thirty first in the League. I think I think that'll be a good test where they're not brandin cooks is for real or not. Don't know if I'm starting Brandin cooks next week if I have them. I give Brandin cooks one more week to be patient on. That I'm smashing that panic button. All right now, let's talk about some guys that have had some fantasy success over the first couple of weeks of the season, and whether we're going to be bold and hold onto them or we're going to sell high on them. So let's get right into it for up on my list thing about Todd Gurley thing about Todd Gurley you probably got him in. Your fourth or fifth round of your fantasy draft Lotta earlier, maybe a little later depending on you drafted. But yet a guy, you're thinking rb to thing a big name over the first three weeks of the season we quantity at thirteen seven point fantasy points we to six point one points and week three fifteen point two points, two touchdowns on the season for girly. Now, he's he's averaging sixteen rush attempts game, which is good. But what really cause for optimism here is the upcoming schedule. They play Green Bay Carolina in Minnesota in which I think he's going to have some success against all three of those teams whether it's rushing the ball. Even in the receiving downs I think that girlie gets a little bit more usage as we move ahead here in the receiving downs as well. Now. What really? Causes me to be optimistic. is, looking at Atlanta Owen three, there already been questions raised Dan Quinn is GonNa lose his job and what that's GonNa look like if Dan Quinn loses his job, you know are they going to be a fundamental running team after Dan Quinn leaves or if Dan Quinn leaves? Are they going to use early a lot more? They're gonNA. Try to conserve. The ball and and really try to enforce the running game. used the play action pass, where early really excelled and do use utilize him in check down modes you know try to really possess the ball a lot more instead of just taking the big shots down the field having quick three and outs and having to punt the ball back to the team. So that's why I'm optimistic gung early. And I'm going to be bold and hold onto him. I think that his best days are actually right in front of him. Next up James Connor Than James Connors a good discussion point here he had Russia's last week in for one hundred and nine yards on a touchdown. Got Two hundred and seventy yards in two TS in the last two games substantial numbers. Now. Raise the eyebrow for me is James Connors injury prone. Hate to say love the kid he's a good player. He's just is he's just not built to be a sixteen weeks season type of kid. You know and the way that he runs the punishing style that he runs he's GonNa, get dinged up, and if I were you guys, I would strongly be considering getting rid of him while he's hot. And here's another statistic for you. Anthony McFarland Benny Snell took fourteen touches away from him to start the game on Sunday. Fourteen Does that trend. Increase. Does he get more production and get hurt? You know these are the things that kind of raise an eyebrow to me thinking. It was great. Why had James Connor drafted him pretty high but is there somebody? Can I get somebody else in my lacking at another position that I can get some return on him and get another position I think that he's not gonNa make it through the end of the season, and if you're trying to win your fantasy league I, don't think he might be there. For some of those pivotal wheats that you're that you're going to need him. Next up James Robinson. Body, you can't just pick James Robinson off your waiver wires the last week. Good for you. My question is, are you going to hold onto him? You're going try to get rid of Mali's hot. At thirty fantasy points this last weekend. Hit Twenty one the week before that and ten with the week before that. What's the ceiling. What's his floor. You look what does it look like when this kid has a bad game versus is thirty is thirty points his highest output. Did. Have we already seen the best from this kid? You know and I think. When we're looking at his carry production week, one sixteen carries week to sixteen carries three eleven carries. I. Think what's really saving him here is receiving production actually this last week and he led the team he he led the team catches and yards. When DJ SHARKS THERE I don't. Think that's the same case. I think DJ Shark gets his opens up the the passing game for everybody else. Think. Yes. The Jaguars will be in a Lotta shootouts and yes, he might get that ten twelve point fantasy production but is it wise to try to capitalize while he's He just had a thirty point game in a twenty one point game and a ten point game. He's number fifteen overall and fantasy points over the course of the first three weeks number fifteen in the league. Zan drafted rookie free agent and most you guys just picked up off your waiver wires I strongly considering selling wise hot. But if you're strongly considering being bold and holding onto them, there is there is a little bit of optimism for that as well. They play Cincinnati, next Houston and Detroit, which he could receive a lot of production in those three games you want to hold onto him for just a little bit long before unloading last but not least Daryl Henderson. Darryl Henderson. For me my opinion. Is received the amount of touches in production that he has the last two weeks dude injuries. Malcolm Brown. Makers both injured. Malcolm Brown comes back this week. Get seven touches is touched by Henderson twenty, two seven. That doesn't mean that that's going to be what it's like every week. I think Henderson has exhibited to great weeks. Twenty points to nineteen points in week three. Two touchdowns. Touchdown week to a touchdown in week three. But. I'm not extremely optimistic that. He does this on a weekly basis? Is. There a position in need? It could be. Affleck's pot a consistent fleck spot. Is it? Can you package him and get a you know a strong wide receiver to or running back rb to something like that where you can get some value for him because quite frankly I don't think that. This is longstanding and I do think that when camakers and Malcolm Brown are healthy that they dig into some of his shares and he might get touched by some of these guys in in future weeks. So I do think that. Some wise. Hot. You know probably only another week or so before Malcolm browns pretty healthy and they split those carries ten, ten, twelve, twelve, eight something like that. And he doesn't see the same amount of production that he has. So those are my thoughts on Daryl Henderson and the rest of the crew and whether or not to be bold and hold or sell while they're hopped. Let's talk top five teams after week three. First up number five Pittsburgh steelers. The. steelers defense speaks for itself. One of the top if not the best defense in the League Big Ben back rejuvenated. Throwing the ball to his nice young receivers that just keep coming income and they got the running game going no reason why they shouldn't be in the top five number four actually have just above the steelers. And I'm a steelers lover. So you says a lot Baltimore Ravens. Wasn't their best performance tonight but? The statistics says for itself. Ravens with Mark Jackson Twenty Oh against the rest of the NFL Owen three verse Kansas City thing that speaks for itself and I think that that's why they remain in the top five despite being two and one. Number three Seattle seahawks. Rustu and Russ. Camp can't complain about the way that they're playing. They're playing at an absolute elite level. The only reason why I put the packers in front of them is because I thought that the packers were a little bit more impressive on Sunday night football against the New Orleans saints without a Davante Adams still putting up forty points. I think that it's It's not too shabby to to be putting up that many points with subpar receivers. Implying that the way that the packers are. In number one. Pretty pretty obvious kids city chiefs absolutely dominating performance on Monday night football thing that there's no reason why they shouldn't be the number one team on anybody's top five picks. It's just they. They completely dominated everybody got involved. All the receiver's got involved batch mahomes. Turnovers played a clean game day wearing complete control and they deserve to be the number one number one top seed. Here on the last segment, let's talk individuals statistics. Let's give out some awards to those guys who had great games over the weekend first up Nick Foles, he had the ability to come in the third quarter and replace Mr Bisky threw three touchdowns. I. Didn't come from behind win. He's going to be named the start moving forward REX burkhead throttle touchdowns dedicated mall to James White who was away dealing with a personal matter. Stephen Ascii six for six on feels his three game winning kicks in three games. Three of those on Sunday fifty yards beyond. And one of them was game winning fifty five yarder. and. Let's put this in perspective for you guys Tennessee had such lousy kicking game towards the end of the year last year they'd one field goal in the final seven games stops kids six and this one game. Davin Cook Hundred Eighty one yards twenty eight carries touchdown career high of rushing yards for the day absolute monster in this one. Colds defense they outscored the jets offense by themselves to TD's safety some saks keenan allen thirteen receptions one, hundred, thirty, two, yard touchdown. One of those catches making now number three in receiving in chargers history. This hundred yard game also marked the twenty four th forum. Making him second in chargers history De'andre, Hopkins, ten receptions one hundred thirty seven yards man was an absolute difference maker out there despite them losing. Nobody on Detroit's cover this guy I don't think there's many people in the league that can actually covered the Andre. Hopkins Tyler Lockett. Nine receptions one hundred yards three touchdowns against the hat trick. Alvin. Kamara not sure if he was running back or wide receiver in this one but he sure as hell had a lot of receptions thirteen receptions one, hundred, thirty, nine yards, two touchdowns. Those you keeping track at home. He's got two touchdowns in the last five games. The only person had more than that was Ladainian Tomlinson with eight consecutive games with two or more. Aaron Rodgers two, hundred, eighty, three yards passing. The packers without a day atoms to a nice victory over the saints on Sunday. Night. Football. Some honorable mentions to our Dean's list that just didn't make the cut for this week. Justin Jefferson nine receptions. One hundred, seventy, five yards. Got His first NFL touchdown. This. was the most receiving yards by a vikings rookie since nineteen, ninety eight. By. WHO OTHER THAN RANDY MOSS? Who had one hundred ninety receiving yards that day? Also Standards Defense. Held the Texans twenty, nine rushing yards and an interception they played phenomenal. Held Shawn Watson in check with only one rush for five yards. Three MVP. Russell Wilson let Russ Cook Russ Do Rust Russell Wilson this weekend recorded individualized records. You said record for the most passing TD's in the first three games with fourteen last person to do that was Patrick Mahomes. He said it with thirteen TV's in two thousand eighteen MVP season Russell Wilson became the first qb to throw in his first three games. Russell Wilson deserves MVP this weekend he had a hard fought victory over the Dallas cowboys had some really good passes. Five touchdowns is nothing more. You can say Russell Wilson you get this week's MVP. That is going to conclude this week three episode. Later on this week, we'll be talking week four match ups and I'll be providing with you all the fantasy advice you need to know before you lock in those lines for week four, you have things you would like to talk about or roster advice that you need. Make sure you send me a message through the anchor APP or DM me on twitter our twitter handle is at fantasy f underscore you on twitter again, it's F. A. N. T. A. S. Y. Capital F. underscored you on twitter. Thank you guys so much and I look forward to seeing you guys later on this week.

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"Actual keep it off the right side. Lamar Jackson what he has brought to the rapist kids why they're winning rivers to the end zone. Popped up in the air strikes. Winnable. But we'll MAC deserves defensive player of the year out of step makes the catch. They could wall of pass down the middle has Hilton and makes the catch twenty five Pige. Look who was a Nerf ball being the season has played lights out to go play another Dame in the playoffs this year. We can do that stinking. Awesome. Welcome to the bay. Let's go. This ain't no today or the day before this the day before right here. Three times bull Chevy woods note. Three times. We're were both champing. Great Tedy Bruschi. Hold down his spot over on the endless get straight into these matchup. Big will while or matchups headed your way? Seattle Dallas have one previous playoff meeting also wild card weekend back in six game. Best. Remember by Tony Romo going full whoopsie on the world nineteen yard field goal. Try late and that worked out too great expect old school Brown pal football Seattle. Let all teams in rushing in the regular season was Zeke Elliott finished as the league's top rusher for the second time in three NFL seasons. And things weren't all that rosy for doc Prescott week three meeting get Seattle either where he completed just fifty six percent of his passes and posted a QBR of eighteen which are both season lows. For Dax let's go straight the Dallas right now. We're Jeff Darlington joins us live. Jeff Zeke Elliot sat out week seventeen. But what kind of a work load? So we expect from him come Saturday night. I don't know Jack maybe one hundred hundred ten carries on Saturday. I mean, this this dude says that he feels so ready and prepared for this game. You actually noted a couple of days ago after taking the day off against the giants. Essentially, a by for Zeke Elliott that normally it takes him until about Friday or Saturday to be ready for that Sunday game. But he was feeling ready for a couple days ago, and he knows going into this there. There's all full transparency here in Dallas about Zeke. You'll Elliot's workload. He knows. He's going in there, and he's going to get that rock early to try to establish this run for this Cowboys team, we should look on the other side of the ball though. Bobby Wagner is playing out of his mind this season that's going to be an interesting notch up an incredible matchup this weekend. In fact, Jack your boys pro-football, focus, you know, that that company right there say that Wagner has a hundred thirty eight tackles this year. He's only missed one of those attempted tackles and really if you go back to win that stat was kept that's unprecedented. Bobby Wagner is doing things that nobody has done before that position. So. Oh Wagner against Elliott. This is going to be an incredible matchup likely going to dictate the outcome of this game. Yes, sir. Check your though, Jeff that'll be on its way over. Thank you, sir. What kind of matchup Zeke Elliot have common here with the Stevens, Bobby Wagner, all those tackle numbers? Everything that Darlington just told you I'm going to simplify it by this one statement, you get a body on Bobby in Dallas is going to be able to have success running the football looking back to their up earlier in the year different teams. Yes. But the one constant or Bobby Wagner and Zeki Elliott fully with the Seahawks defense, if it's not, Bobby. I don't know who it's going to be so body on them right here. It's puller getting off to the second level grab them. If you have to simplification you get a body on Bobby the Dallas run game. We'll have success of your no body. That's song. You're writing. Anybody say soliciting newer defensive leader some of the best team. Dallas overhead still live in Dallas. Explain to me the pressure this team. Well, it's not just the team. It's individuals. This will Dak Prescott going to be under some pressure. But based off of the success that this organization has had in the past. You look at the history of this organization that Roger starbuck show the world the Troy Aikman's Hagstrom big time success is far as winning playoff gains advancing in that manner become becoming heroes within Dallas winning Super Bowls. But it over the years things have changed Tony Romo had a chance greatest toy romo's career was he he didn't. He only won two playoff games in his time. As a Dallas cowboy Dak niece. Find a way to set himself said his legacy within this organization this game around last last year. They lost the Green Bay Packers. This time around they need to find a way to win this game in skin and continue move before. But it's about his legacy. And he's he's a historian, man. He understands the game of football. Those exactly where he fits is. There a certain franchises where you're not really in any type of conversation until you make deep playoff run us. Dallas Cowboys are up at the top with that. Though, you go Bandrich Jalen Smith this. Cowboys defense can run a Soka. Russell Wilson he can extend that thing like nobody else. How can they make life tough on rusty? I think what they're going to do a lot. Because one thing about Russ's that you cannot give him the splash place. You can't give him those big over the top. Tyler Lockett plays down the field. Make him earn it and do not give him a chance to be off scheduled. I'll even if you don't sack Russ find a way to get to get have your angles. Make sure that he can't out leverage. You get on the outside the perimeter and make the big place because he's at his best when he's all schedule when he's playing backyard football, you cannot allow him to get on the firm of and the easy game plan scheme to stop him is pass rush disciplined. Don't run back it up. Don't run behind the quarterback push up the pocket, but with him. It's. Different. You can't do it. He's going to get out. So this is more of an effort pass rush game in my opinion. And this guy DeMarcus Lawrence once you get there, and you miss him because you will you will miss Russell Wilson. He's just got that lower body strength. You have to chase and chase and chase in those seven seconds eight second plays because that's how long hill extend them. They'll tell you else's shoop or slippery in that pocket. Lamar jackson. You see you? See Melvin Ingram with on him. A big all week sixteen rematches come in. Baltimore defense LA to a season low ten points. But now the rematch twenty one year old on fire. Lamar Jackson and thirty seven year old Philip rivers, Newt Sunday, and what will be the third largest age gap between two starting quarterbacks and NFL postseason history. Jackson was seven years old when rivers through his first NFL pass back in January of five in Sunday. Can't come soon enough for Eljay. Definitely, you know. And it's just me play off that whole thing and trying to get the championship. Now, you know, it was forced to get in. And we ended now. So we wanted to big thing, I can taste it. It's like giving sweet potato pie. Definitely I'm trying to teach that Vader from birthday Monday. And since they Jackson starter week. Eleven ravens have reshaped their offense of identity. They have turned into the best running and ball control team in the NFL going six and one in Jackson seven stores only loss came to the chiefs, and it was an overtime very easily be undefeated. But the big question surrounding the ravens run option. Offense is the stability of it. For more on the ravens. Here's our ravens reporter, James Hensley. There's been a lot of talk this week about the fact that the chargers are the first team to face Lamar Jackson and this unconventional ravens offense for the second time this season and how familiarity could help them slow down Baltimore. But the ravens they're just not concerned backup quarterback Robert Griffin. The third put it best comparing the ravens running option offense to a Michael Jordan fadeaway jumper. He says. Yeah, you know, what's coming, but it's difficult to stop. Because ultimately talent takes over coach John Harbaugh believes the key to the running game is the unselfishness of his players. You have receivers like Michael Crabtree. John Brown Willie Snead buying into a system where they're blocking more than the catching the ball. That's why Harbaugh believes this is best team in his eleven years in Baltimore. Now back to you. Jack nicely done there, James I like Harrison to fadeaway jumper best team in eleven years already. Have a little something sharp there jumper. So. So this is the the first taste of playoff football for the more Jackson. What are you guys? Remember most buckling from the regular season into the playoffs where everything seems to be a little bit different. It's just a different field when you walk into the stadium on game day when it's when it's a playoff game. It's you know, there's not that many credentials during the regular season. You don't see that many people on the sideline while you walk in on a playoff game. And there's a ton of people on the sideline family members. Sponsors everyone's out there the media's out early and there's not anti seats. Not a whole lot of empty seats. When you show up early those games. And and I just remembered that buzz we played. Our first buffers playoff game was in nineteen ninety two. And I feel like I still remember today and this just walking out the tunnel feeling the energy within that stadium. Same thing. With me. I playoff game nineteen Ninety-six your safety former safety, I'm former linebacker, but we as defensive players you feel that pressure. You feel that excitement that adrenaline. You can go out there and hit somebody. You can go out there and run around and run on kickoff inches laid it out. And just scream. I can't imagine for a quarterback rookie quarterback going out there. You don't have that. You can't just go out there and go crazy. You gotta stay calm. You gotta stay calm and still realize you gotta play the call. You gotta defense to read. You got a ball. You gotta deliver in certain places. So it's a lot different for rookie quarterback's. You got to defenders out here. They just went out and smashed. That's what we did. That's how we dealt with the pressure going to be entering this. Interesting to see how Lamar deals with that. They haven't shook him yet. We know that alway across the country on a short week beats the charges and was kind of place game is not too big not too big. He's show so teddy. How? How would you defend Lamar Jackson? If you are the chargers defensive coordinator is all up to you. Well, I I got to stop the run. I gotta stop the quarterback runs. Because also if I'm the offense coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens. And I'm Marty morning. How I how I get Lamar settled is I call runs early on. I'm going quarterback pal? I'm going quarterback counter. Just so go ahead. Get hit take it down the field. And then now let's play. So I got to worry about that true disciplined that eleven on eleven football on that Los Angeles charger defense who's your quarterback player in the first game. They use the safety. You saw the Browns they used Djibril peppers. It. Doesn't matter sometime it's disciplined. It's it's a Simon football is gap control. It's almost like you're playing a military academy at times because of all the options that they have. And how creative it is? You got fullback you got pitch. You got quarterback. You got to be a sinement right in this game as deep as a player. It's tough to be disciplined. I mean, you you just can't Baal the I can't you gotta. Stay within your lane in do you guys? Always unfamiliar. Exact unfamiliar. You don't go against a scheme like this every week where you have to be assignment oriented not look at the chargers when I look at the charges. My Bill is they can't start off slow. They've been starting off slow weekend every weekend. You're starting to see this team. They don't turn it on to the second half. They can't do that. They have to find a way to put the pressure on early in this game points up on on this team and make force. Lamar Jackson the the ball back into this game. So big time on I the second down deep instantly to gotta stop mo- per second down put them in third and long third and ten let's see Mark Jackson complete complete passes on the outside. That's the recipe. Nobody's really been. Yeah. But that's the best to be in the theory. What about for Melvin Gordon? How should the chargers? Use in this game. Use them much like the Cowboys have been using Zeke. You'll Elliott they gotta find a way to get Melvin Gordon. The fall early in this game because it can't just rely on explosive plays. Guess the Baltimore rate. They can screen game Belva out of the backfield. Get him in situations where he's in space one on one with the linebackers and make plays down the field. Don't always look toward the splash play against the Baltimore Ravens. Sometimes they're going to make you most of the time. They're gonna make you earn it. I wanna see how Melvin Gordon does in protection because he failed at that. Earlier matchup. He didn't know who to block they ran pick stunts. He was confused with the offensive line. Do they make protection adjustment? Maybe a free released like DARREN'S talk about because there is so much going on in their if you aren't right in your protection, and you use that back to handle those games. He's got to be right. He wasn't the first matchup and chargers have been awesome on the road. We're we're thinking about as well. So. Playoffs after one five start. That's where we talked about. That's what the goal was Nashville. Point three and win the AFC south man, be good for the method toughness. Most teams as evidence going to battle. Marquee match. Andrew luck has played lights out this show wasn't fees explosive is it yet. Knowing is no surprise this. Heck of a ballgame. This too much. We've worked to you. Don't need to say anything anyone has to hone season. Every play counts every moment. Kelsen? He can't slip up. Game right there holds taxes about his evenly matched as two teams. You'll find they're heading into round three on the season. After splitting the previous two in both wild games ever decided by three point margins. It will Mark the first playoff matchup between the AFC south team since it was created the division was created back in two thousand two Watson's smooth operator to work out a play action and just to NFL season since entering the NFL last year. Got the second best QBR in the NFL using the play fake and Watson is averaging these second most yard for and is eighteen touchdown passes trail only Russell Wilson and Jared gall. So let's let's talk about the Texans a little bit because they lose willfuller. Then they go out. They get married his time as they lose him die are too. So with bang bang pretty much, John. Jay Hopkins is all they have at this point in the past game is going to get open house Watson win. You would think that you gotta pass the ball. And find ways if even bring it in another receiver to help them out. Listen, I think Bill Brian in a good job all year of. Taking his time with yonder hawk. I'm sorry, Sal Watson. And now what they're doing running these own options. Their and this is the one place that run it. You're seeing the freeze that he has their ability to get to the edges and outrun the defender here. This is what's made him special since high school? This is special player when he has the ball in his hands. And now they're taking the ticket training wheels off the let him run these to move the chains with his legs and maintain long drives as they go on. It's not all always always about the big splash plays down the field and the play offs run. The football be consistent and Watson with these injuries to their cbs' Watson may be really hold the ball. Which is something. He already did. How big of an issue is this cold front that offense of line for the Texans? This offense struggled the quarterback has struggled recognizing seeing pressure. A lot of things you think that our elementary at this point. They're still having struggles third time they've met. And you think oh they've seen each of their familiar that doesn't look familiar. They look back. They've never seen. Gene that four strong pressure before linebacker slot corner. He's he gets startled. Like he hasn't seen it like they've never seen an Indianapolis Colts defensive lineman move which movement they are predicated on quickness something's wrong there. It has to be fixed for them to win this game. Interesting. So with luck heading home to Houston. So too is our Dan Grazziano or fron, Dan, Dan, these two teams what are they saying right now about the importance of maybe how they're going to protect Watson and Andrew luck. Maybe tough to do. Jack two different stories when it comes to protecting the quarterback here with the colts in the Texans this year start with Andrew luck. He's only been sack eighteen times all year. Now six of those came in the two games against the Texans. But when I talked to defensive coordinator, Texas, defensive coordinator, Romeo Cornell, he said, it's not easy. He said because the offense of line has been strong and luck to Teddy's point doesn't very good job of helping with his own protection. He's big and strong and fast and can escape the rush and help out that offensive line to an extent that maybe Shawn Watson isn't at this point in his career, very important for the colts. They're getting center Ryan Kelly back to this game, they expect. So when that offense of wine is whole that makes a big difference flip it over to the Houston side where Shawn Watson has been sacked sixty two times this year. And that's a big problem obviously for the Texans as everybody knows. But if there's a silver lining, I talked to quarterbacks coach, Sean Ryan he said Watson is doing a better job of protecting himself when he gets. Outside the pocket of knowing when the journey is over and he needs to run out of bounds or throw it away in order to protect himself. So that's the sort of progression. They're going with in with Watson in his second year here. But obviously they're trying to make the best of a difficult situation with a quarterback who's been hit way too many times than thank you very much, sir. And a reminder this game is on ABC ESPN and ESPN deport they Saturday four thirty five eastern one thirty five the civic luck headed home Houston for the colts. And and those type he is the head over the Texans. Put it down cover stars postseason. It'll be free. Stor noon Pacific boats on ESPN app. Isn't that a competitor? You look forward to playing these games was a good defense before they got Khalil mentally ill. Man. This thing over the top. Twenty. This is different season. Now at the end of the day. All you want to do is be in the dance when you strap it on and you put that bears onto your only thing about one thing. For the finale of afford game flurry is about as good as it gets. You have the best defense in football. They're going to host Saint Nick foles, and it's going to be some January's Chicago football headed your way with that. With to raise for four years. Jeff dickerson. Jeff the bears were one of the league's healthier teams in two thousand eighteen but the defense in their touchdown machine is battling an ankle right now. What's the status of one? Eddie jackson. Yeah. And that's the key question. Jack Jackson had that bad ankle injury three weeks ago. This the last two games of the regular season did not practice on Wednesday was limited though yesterday when here for Matt nagging about a minute about a status for today, we expect he's going to play this weekend. How effective you'll be that remains to be seen bears that is optimistic about linebacker Aaron Lynch. He's about a couple of weeks. It's well of elbow injury. He hasn't practiced all week but the bears get all three of their wide receivers back on the field this week. Alan Robinson, Taylor Gabriel and Anthony Miller on they've had full participation. They're good to go Miller told us he dislocated his shoulder in Minnesota during that regular season. Finale. He said they popped it right back in. He will not miss Sunday's game. Because of course, it's the playoffs. Better believe, that's great stuff. Great news for Mitch Trubisky. All right. So let's let's let's go back to the other side and foles if he can't have any success at all against the bears defense where you feel like it comes from alpha on Jeffrey. It was making his return back to Chicago where he basically started his career and a guy that you don't have to be perfect and your goals. You don't have to be perfect with the football, alshon, Jeffery. We'll go up and get it in anytime. And this is what's postal special. Is that he sees the opportunities that he has a one on one coverage. And he feels like his guy is better than your guy in those opportunities that he has in his game where matches down the field. We just want to highlight whereas one on one or two he's gonna take shots at the bears to win this game. They have to limit alshon Jeffery in the big play guy is usually better than your guy that especially in the playoffs to grape off the ball. Linebackers intro Veith in and roquan Smith worth noting roquan, Smith Trubisky. Cohen Howard Jackson, and many others are all going to be playing in their first postseason football. Which is so the old innocence versus experienced bowl. We'll see how it all goes down. That's exit one the AFC south can stop was best team. When I. Colts are going to the playoffs plan like a bunch of madman. We don't have any nonbelievers balloons only place going home. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Brian Bruno live on the scene of a recent windstorm here to describe the event chest of drawers, there's a storm howling outside. So I thought I'd stay in and watch a rom com. Five minutes into the flick, a tree branch slams through the window. Where are you hurt? Just gotta scratch on my chest. Your chest of drawers can't help you in a windstorm. But the gyco insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage. Co gyco to see how a Ford -able homeowners insurance can be world needs more this. Love Watson flashback to the week four fight or luck threw for four hundred sixty four yards four touchdowns and loss. Frank reich. Went for it on fourth and four on their own forty three and overtime. Pretty legendary moved in quite pan out replays later, Texas kick the game winning field goal. Then the end e revenge toward this is the Texans against Texas week fourteen behind a monster day of T wide helped me finish a yard shy of two hundred yard receiving game. The win ended the Texans free. Which is record nine game winning streak. Those games were decided by grief point more, which we've told you both teams are very familiar with each other here. Right. I don't think that necessarily plays an advantage to to either side, I truly believe what what's happened in the past has no no relevance over what what's going to happen. You know and in the next game. And certainly you watch you watch film, and you studying you prepare and both if we know each other well execution fundamentals technique discipline, those sort of become the magic sauce. So it doesn't matter sauce every week. So out of TY Hilton has been managing ankle injury for weeks. Now is there anything different going on this week? Not that we can tell Jack at this point in time. And every week. He's on the injury report every week. He misses practice time. And then every week the game rolls around and T Y Hilton is out there making plays. Nobody's add more success against the Houston, Texas. Nobody's more of Texas killer T Y Hilton average overall hundred seventy receiving yards a game against Houston. And again, he is expected to be out there and a game with the stakes this guy with this much significance. Despite the fact that he is not practiced despite the fact that his ankle is not at full strength. TY Hilton is expected to play Jack Adam thank you very much. So t y Hilton has been the Houston killer in a lot of ways. Why do you think that he it is that Houston really can't garden after listening to Andrew luck right there at him saying, they're very familiar with each other? I'm gonna disagree with them. Because if you were familiar with each other, you would come up with a better plan to vent defend TY. He'll do that. Then that I've watched the last couple of games against these guys. And you see they've tried every single. Wait Jonathan Joseph playing off coverage. So it's a quickly look pass. And you gotta not wise going to catch it, then redirect. But you missed tackle. He's on the ground. The comp- shamrocks all of a sudden TY's wise out there in about fifteen yards. Let's try precedent. Now press him see if you can get a hand on T wise. Good off the line of scrimmage watches. Hammered by here. What boom clears the arm plays with them sales seven route boom cuts it back inside takes vertical? Joseph doesn't know. What to do? He can't keep up Cup with this. Keep up with the speed beautiful throw beautiful catch forty plus yard gain. And then off of play action. You know, where he's going off of play action. If you give Andrew four seconds of throw the ball and a safe these not deep because you've got your is in the backfield. It's going to be like this all day long. I understand Matthew. I'd you're playing the middle of the field. He looks back to see love he thinks he's deep enough. But you're not because it's t y Hilton another double move rookie safety gets leaning outside and back inside. You're not familiar with this guy. If you don't have someone over the top every single play and force force and up to beach with Ibran if Eric Ibran beats you if you're the Houston Texans. I'm gonna shake your hand congratulate you take take those forty fifty sixty yard bombs out of the equation by eliminating t y Hilton how happy most TY Beata have that. Right. Cain by Greece w soul. Some of those. Great looks awesome in quietly. They've become one of the best offense of lines and football talking about the colts unique the Texans to give pressure. How would they do it? They better get pressure. We just watch teddy state, and she is absolutely killing starts with up front with JJ watt Davey and cloudy and Whitney mercilus. This is the guy. This is our high price players on those front line right now two guys they pay a lot of money to rush the passer. They're going to have to do their job, especially today. Cloudy because you're going to put him situations where he has the matchup. We has a one on one with the guard wanna one with a tackler it's gonna be concerned himself with J J watt. Where's what? Hey today. Cloudy has got a win his battles mercilus has to win their individual battles in order to get Andrew. I've said on that. And a reminder this game is on ABC and ESPN is. Well, yes being deport days to Saturday four thirty eastern one thirty five to civic luck on home the colts Texans from our stadium. Our coverage starts with postseason NFL count. Then at three eastern noon Pacific in both games or live on the ESPN app. To force watch the thing anywhere that you are, you know, well, he kicked off his NFL career with the chargers while the team was still in saying Yego and was teammates with Philip rivers for nine years Weddell made. I team all pro honors a member of the charges back in two thousand eleven the two thousand fourteen before signing a four year deal with Baltimore back in two thousand sixteen has become a staple of that loaded. Ravens defense was pretty good. It was pretty good ice cream. Get a lot of weird ice cream is pretty good. I see the whole thing. The ice cream September for me gossip timber victories in England. It's still warm still somewhat warm on those Sunday. So I used to go to my favorite spot after win spruce pond creamery in Franklin, Massachusetts. Yes. Chocolate Sherry chunk. That's my flavor. Hot fudge on the bottom on the bottom because you get it as a reward when you finish. All you can dig down early. Just you gotta have it sometimes. But it's January December in New England. I don't I don't I don't like the ice cream. It's gotta be warm. It's gotta be warm outside, and it doesn't shine. You could have it all your Greenwood down. You don't want to be around lactose. Hey, hey. We'll there. We won't be friends a lot of different questions about ice girl relationship. Just took a little. All right. I still Chuck. Let's let's go to wet his former team. Do you buy into the advantages when you're going up against the former team a quarterback you play with for nine years all that acts Lutely familiar what you know, he played with Philip rivers for nine years. They know each other extremely well. And not only that. But you stay in contact. This is a California, boy, San Bernardino, even contact with people back in California. And there's a certain energy you play your former team you've been around him. You know, the landscape you started you keep in contact spars personnel. So you know to even know he's playing in a different division. There's a familiarity with him in this football team. And I think there's an advantage. There's an obvious advantage for Eric waddles far as the cadence and you'll talk more about that. But he he knows Philip rivers is the best disguising safety in the game in my opinion. If you watch him he's like a joker out there. Where's he going to be in that defensive coordinator, wink, Martindale defense? He's up he's dropping everything. And when you know the cadence and rhythm in body. The language of a quarterback. You can do it so much, and he knows Philip rivers has voice is the way he says his words his his inflection. Those type of things are best disguises on defenses. I played with we're against Brady during practice because we knew what his body when he went forward. And then he also brought the motion and how is his heart count. Was. We knew it was on to those type of things he has all of that information on Philip rivers. Good stuff, not to mention who knows what kind of little conversations they had over nine years where you pick up a little secret along the way that's not just talk about all the rivers being a quarterback on office. This is the quarterback on guaranteed when they get you and your safety or a linebacker. Do. How'd you know? I was dropping the periods over you're on the side. How do you knew I was dropping right there? Well, then you get that information from him. I'm sure they've had those conversation air in. It's this is going to be a little rematch. We had the week sixteen row warrior style is what happened. It was a woman that those ravens put on the chargers give you a little details from the. Baltimore's Pash rush. Got after Philip rivers ESPN's pass rush win rate using NFL next gen that's about that T says won't company beat their blocks within two and a half seconds of the snap on seventy five percent of the plays. It was the ravens highest win rate in any game this season. River struggled trying to fit the ball and tight spots on tight window throws the vine by next gen stats. No more than one yard of separation. Rivers was just one of six for nine yards with two picks. And he threw just one ball into a tight window in that game. So let's get into this thing a little bit. What about the takeaways just two weeks ago that they played this? What can you take away from something like this when you're running right back? Well, you can take away that there's not many changes you can make in two weeks. Okay. In for a Lamar Jackson. I think you realize if you're the Los Angeles chargers he really hurts you in play action passes the improvement of this young quarterback on play action pass something the Los Angeles chargers. You better be ready for a hell of a throw right there. I run to. I think the one thing you saw a lot of missed opportunities with the San Diego Chargers in that game. And one thing we did see is early on the chargers. New one thing we gotta get the leave. We gotta find a way to get leave the explosive and force. Lamar Jackson to get his game plan throw the ball here. And you look at the chargers opportunities. They had a lot of tunes as Mr Blot can do the right thing. Got off your assignments. You gotta make those plays and Philip rivers asked to complete follow it up baby way to fall. Those welcome in Adam Schefter, vegan follow that up. Good news out of LA. There's only one player who was not available that week. Sixteen matchup really wasn't available for the entire season talking about hunter Henry, Adam. What are you hearing about him coming back from that ACL and the kind of impact he can have come Sunday, Jack, it's been seven months and fifteen days in hunter, Henry tours ACL during an OT last spring for the chargers. He is practiced the last couple of weeks. He's look good in practice today. Chargers. Head coach Anthony Lynn, should they haven't told safe. Saturday at four PM eastern to activate him. And obviously make decision in the next twenty four hours might understanding is is expected to be activated. He will play a limited amount on Sunday. Keep potentially could be a weapon for these charters and added weapon for Philip rivers, especially in the red zone. Henry's? A tremendous football player was a big loss to the chargers offense. It was able to overcome his loss. But it looks like he could be a contributor to some extent on Sunday in the wildcard round at Baltimore something to keep an eye on no doubt. And thank you very much. Thank you been four years since we lost one of the greatest men ever worked inside of these walls and just want to say to his daughters Taylor and Sydney as well. As the entire Scott family that we're thinking of you today rest than piece man who inspired an entire generation the great store, Scott. When you die that does not mean that you'd lose to cancer, you beat cancer by how you live why you live and in the manner in which you live. So live with fight like hell. And when you get too tired to fight than Li down in rest and let somebody else fight for you. Today on the anniversary of stores passing. You can help continue a fight the mid so much store in his fight against cancer and support of minority scholars research. Visit Jimmy V dot org slash Stuart Scott all donations benefit the beef Oun Dacian for cancer research. We can tell you Nick foles faces. The toughest test of this run for the history books. He has been on the bears defense, and led the NFL and scoring the among other categories and plenty of miliary between these two coaches Doug Peterson Matt Nagy work together for seven seasons on Andy Reed's eagles and cheese teams. And now, they find themselves sharing postseason Turk. So what they blockbuster Sunday afternoon on tap. We head to Philly were ace eagles. Reporter Tim McManus is dead in the middle of all that action. Tim Allen Jeffrey against his former team on Sunday. What's the mindset for him as he prepares for Chicago. Jeffrey, a little chilly, actually when he was asked about his old town earlier this week saying I love Philadelphia, Chicago is just where I was for work. Adding that there's no extra emotion about playing the bears just that there are team that is in the eagles way. And Jeffrey figures to be a big part of this game. You know, he and Nick foles really clicking since foles got into the lineup week fifteen Jeffrey averaging five catches for one hundred yards and look for foles to continue searching for Jeffrey in this game. Especially late Geoffrey has a sense for the big moment and wide receiver Nelson. Lord likened into a star basketball player who searches for the last shot saying he's a guy that has killer instinct Jeffrey looked to close out his old team this weekend. We'll see what happens to them. Thank you very much. So we'll go right now to the battle really the best battle then down in the trenches renews renuzit up next gen stats powered by AWS. The eagles dayline has returned to form two thousand eighteen for SPN's pass Roche win rate using NFL next is that's a little of that ESPN front has four highest win rate beating their blocked within two and a half seconds. Fifty seven percent of the time on the other side of the ball. Chicago's all of Linux sustained gets blocks for two and a half seconds. Sixty six percent of the time since week ten. That's the best Morgan the NFL through and a half seconds. We're saying that's about the average time to pass. This next stuff keeps getting. Good is this a little bit cooler. So this eagles defensive line win about eight deep and that Super Bowl run. They had all kinds of people how they evolve and still found success. Michael Bennett is finally coming back around wonder. Why would they brought him Eichel bidding? You said, okay. They're they're going to be really explosive early on. It didn't happen that way. But the end of the season really started to change things. Michael Bennett, really came on. And this group right now for four will absolutely get there in the backfield fast. And it really hurts a quarterback. Fletcher, Cox is bad, man. We can tell you the eagles defensive line so important because that eagles secondary these people wide open. They've allowed an average of three point seven yards of separation to opposing receivers. That's the second worst in the NFL so teddy if Mitch Trubisky has to make the play with his arm. Do you trust them? If you're talking about in the pocket consistently where he asked to stand there and be a dropback passer. I do not trust. That is where he struggles. Accuracy has been a problem for him at times in the past. However, this is a special player. Trubisky not with his accuracy. But with his ability to escape this is one of the fastest quarterbacks in the league. When it gets out of the pocket he can run he can use his legs in on the run. Right. Throwing on the run in broken plays those plays. I'd be afraid of if I were the eagle defense because you have to just cover for so long because you're Bisky is so slippery in the pocket any so we lose of an fast faster than you think. I mean, he'll get let's keep talking next-gen. He'll get up to nineteen miles per hour eighteen miles per hour. He's that fast of a quarterback. So you got to run him down in hustle. Handful of athlete quarterbacks room this weekend. So the fifteen pro football hall of fame modern era. Finalist for now's yesterday's listen three first year eligible players so hours reach him Bailey. But a tone of great players and coaches among the group, the whole board of selectors meet February second Lanta the day before the Super Bowl and every list to the max of five. Ed bailey. Tony Gonzalez in the class. What do you guys think is obvious first round first ballot hall of famers guys give rita's jacket right now? And also give Tony Gonzalez his jacket right now. And champ Bailey. They've got one waiting for you. All right. I don't know if it's this year. There's another cornerback. I'm rooting for entire law who I played a lot of games with and win a lot of championships with I will get serious consideration. He's a multiple time fun. Yeah. And it's hard to separate those guys because Thai law you'd like you said SuperBowl champion, he's done. He's plays. Chant Bailey came in. And he was supposedly the next Dion Sanders. He's a shutdown corner for years you measured yourself. Yeah. As the best cornerback in the league, you always measured yourself against champ Bailey. So there's a number of guys on this fifteen thousand that lists all deserve a great class coming up twelve team still fighting ring while eighteen or fighting for the coach of the future. Some of the coaching interviews going on around the league today. The jets talking to former dolphins head coach Adam geese all the Packers. All patriots assistant, Josh mcdaniels who took one then kind of went back, Brian Florez. Let's welcome in the man who has the ear to it all is Adam Schefter out of what is the latest on the coaching search going on right now. Jack busy day in Foxborough. The Green Bay Packers there as the Miami Dolphins. The Packers interview Josh mcdaniels and Brian flory's patriots defensive coordinator the Packers spending time essentially with both eighteenth coordinators. So it's busy top of the Packers. Dolphins also their meat. Eating with Brian floors as well. So lots of interest in the patriots fits coordinator who looks like he could come out of the cycle with a head coaching job. That's good, Josh mcdaniels. Now, also Jim car will the former lines in colts coach who interviewed with the cardinals on Thursday Kaba already has met with the Browns and the cardinals and the jets so he's doing some do or the jets have expressed interest. A lot of people interested in Jim Kabul. The former head coach at this particular time generating a lot of interest. Also, again, a candidate and all those places actors on and we'll find out whether or not he can get one Adam gates. He's former dolphins coach meeting with the New York Jets day gays already is interviews the car to the cardinals and the jets for the time being there bits of other conversation. We'll see whether or not he gets an interview as forever. The enemy. He is. With the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He's got a bunch of meetings this week four in all he's got the Bengals set for Saturday afternoon at some point time meeting with Cincinnati Bengals get done with Shane Waldron and deck. El-ad Rams assistant on the west coast. So busy dance card for Eric enemy at this time. And he his four head coaching interviews in a two day span is that she also await to see which team they'll be playing in the divisional playoff round next week. Good stealth, Adam. Thank you very much. It is time now old predictions while car. Live who wasn't the bull. I go I say we already saw Teddy's tape on T Y Hilton how he's killing people. Princeton kills you all killed his own kills you t y Hilton goals for two hundred yard. Who? All right. That's bowl. I'm gonna go to the Dallas Seattle game and Zeke who got a week off tired Smith got a week off. He gets one fifty. He's going on the Dallas. They're going to get a body on get in. Playing ball. All the sudden there's another tight in Dallas. They didn't have a tight all year Dakhla and looking at him getting you guys getting in looked will Blake Jolla win off last week. One nineteen three touchdowns. I'm saying a hundred yards in TD in a playoff game win into comeback. All plea. John McCain run. No. We have some very real games coming up. That means we pick it. You know, we do it. It is colts Texans up. I we go with I'm going to take the Houston Texans in this game. I think they find a way to get to Andrew luck Romeo. Criminal comes with census. And they put that safety over the top of t y Hilton go ahead. Texans. Get to a playoff win. I'm going with them. No, I'm going Indian this game talk about this office of line and Eric Hebron TY. He'll office of line is gonna play bully ball against Texas week cope win this game. You know that defense over there rain, I don't okay this law. A hospital. Dos spray Osprey Lyda, Dallas Viggo game who we pick it in this big on fly to Dallas, and they fly back in their season's going to be over. I'm taking the Dallas Cowboys in this winning this defense with DeMarcus Lawrence. He's gonna track down. Russell Wilson the effort and the pursuit of this cowboy keep is this wolf packs going to get it done. I'm with you on this. And I'm going to Cowboys deepish as well that will pack to see Leighton band and this deep will get out. The Russell Wilson tells game coach game not a lot of poison Cowboys pulled out here. All right. The week sixteen rematch is upon us. We have this time flipping coast though, chargers going all the way to Baltimore. Who do we like I'm going with the Baltimore Ravens? I've seen enough of that run game which is Lamar Jackson and that playoff play action pass. I like it in Herrick Weddell, he's going to confuse and disrupt and he will be I be eating ice cream after this one Eric Weddell in the ravens getting win. How things change you pick the Cleveland? House last week. But I'm gonna go. The charges little dip back in this game this week Bill rivers big game. He wins us. So little split there three. Okay. A quick note. I have for you. Matt Nagy called Eddie Jackson a game time decision for the for the capper. This is on Sunday afternoon. Eagles bears. Who are we picking? I'm going to go with the bears. I think Eddie jackets is going to do everything he can to get out there. But I'm going with your Kogyo and this defensive backfield the is going to be there. They're going to get to foles. He's gonna he's gonna take some chances fuller, and these DB's are going to take advantage defense is real in Chicago. They get it done for real. And I'm going with the cargo bears as well. I think it's about that up front the guy stopping the run and then put Nick in obvious passing downs. And we see this this secondary Chicago with very opportunistic. Okay. It's time for challenge flags. Adam is gonna lead us off. Adam who are you challenging while weekend? Jack last time the Cowboys Seahawks met in the playoffs. The cowboys. Snapper holder. Tony Romo struggled to hold onto the snap. This time. I'm challenging the Cowboys older. Chris Jones hold the ball game. When he kicks the Cowboys don't want to what. Log on rivers Bill. Hey goalkeeper Super Bowl. I'm challenging today. Cloudy and JJ what you better make a plate of finish game popcorn alike. Where you went with that. I'm calling Andrew luck. He's got aids thirty circle the wagons like the Buffalo Bills did it. Now, you're supposed to be superman. Let's go. Flags.

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 447: Colts Patriots Preview (10-4-2018)

GSMC Football Podcast

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GSMC Football Podcast Episode 447: Colts Patriots Preview (10-4-2018)

"Keep yourself in the loop of everything football on the Golden State media concepts, football podcast, your latest news on and off the field, be it college football, big, ten, SEC, big, twelve Pac twelve ACC to the NFL with. Got you. Covered. Listen to the Golden State media cut sets football podcast. And welcome to the GMC football podcast brought to you by the GMC podcast network. I'm your host is always for now, at least until I know I'm not gonna do this anymore, but I'm probably for good man at time Jeff off and with me once again is Mark Souza. We're gonna be talking about the in our Thursday night football match between the colts in patriots. Tonight we'll be talking about some other things that are having the NFL as well as in the injury bug. And I guess some some, some fantasy football stuff, but we'll save that for the stuff to college to. We'll save set for the fantasy football podcast on Friday. So if you want to give his football stuff, make sure you're tuned Friday for that. So it was Thursday night football, matchup coats and patriots, and you just told me we just found out that the colts are have made t. y. Hilton inactive for this game. Yes. Sounds like he's been ruled out of, tonight's match up in addition to starting running back Marlin max, starting tight end, Jack Doyle and starting offense vitamin Denzel. Good. Who actually is missing the game for personal reasons, a lot of people. Yeah. Those are four key members and they're all offense. Poor Angela, his after, say for tonight, what do you think about that? Say for whole career? Yeah, they made the game one time, but his his whole career. He's been on a bad team. Yeah, and not just about team, but he's just been getting destroyed by defensive lines. Fall is lying just doesn't give them the time to react and I was getting hit from behind. They did draft Quinton Nelson from Notre Dame. So they tried at least this time to to get him some help in front of him. So that should be is night of a changed outline. What Steph we're not gonna change. If the, if half the offense is on the great pickup. I think he was leased the top offensive line prospect in this drafts. I will say, in my personal opinion, that Quinn Nelson was the best at least interior linemen prospect that I've ever seen that is a broad in. Bold statement. Yeah, he was getting college don't make in the next twenty manage. I will say. I do watch what Notre Dame football games in Quinton Nelson. It was just a man. It was like he was like an already NFL caliber player playing against. Definite college defensive linemen. So he I think will have a great NFL career, but going back to, tonight's game the colts come into Foxborough coming again, playing against the patriots team that is coming off a big win against the Miami Dolphins, where they showed the dolphins who is still the top dog in the AFC st-. Yeah, absolutely. Well, who knows how long it'll be the top dog for we talked about this on the sports podcast about this dynasty coming too closely to an end Mimi, not for another couple of years, but who knows what's gonna happen this year again, I think it's still could be the patriots taken the crown of the east that is. Yeah, I would agree with that. I know that Miami had a great start, but ours doesn't make you the best team. Yeah, I see Miami Miami's eight and eight team every year feels like eight, seven to nine. Sound like a broken record or how many times have we seen the team starts so hot and just end and poorly, I think. And I also think Miami benefited from a few things. They beat the titans in week one. Do you remember that how that game lasted? Like six hours because of all the. Yeah, that's understandable reason to delay that. Oh, yeah, absolutely. But I think even that was kind of a break that worked in their favor like you wanna be the home team in that situation when you have a six hour football game where you have to come back out, go back in the locker room. You don't wanna be the team traveling, you know. You see what I'm saying there? Yes. But regardless, I think the dolphins will come back to earth. I think they finished the season between seven and nine wins. Would you kind of agree with that the dolphins? Yeah, like seven, seven to nine wins three right now. They're three and one. Go nine, seven. That's a lot. That's a logic last a decent. Yeah. That's a decent prediction bills and the jets probably gonna win four or five games between the two. I'm between the two between the two, probably seven or eight. Ten. So both are gonna have very poor. They both have one win if I'm right. My correct there. The bills. I don't have one win. They both one and three. So the bills and the jets are one in three right now, would you say they'll combine for eight wins, ten wins threat to. I'll say the bills, go six and ten, and also the jets go seven, nine under I'm taking the under. Well, yeah, but I'm just saying like, I'm trying to think of just I'm taking the under on both. You think the bills would be worse than six in ten? Yes. Okay. I say four wins. The bills down to three and thirteen they could. Get the number one. I think the bills are. I mean you have them as your worst team, right? Or worse or second worst. They went on my worst. The cardinals were harness for my worst bills were in your files where my for the five of the top bottom. Five. Okay. I, yeah, we'll see. There's a lot of football left. Josh Allen is a rookie who knows maybe here in the next few weeks, he'll show us why he was the first round pick and the bills show some life on offense. What do you think maybe possibly I'm trying to be positive here. Did. I'm sorry, buffalo, but my word you had a playoff. You had a playoff appearance last year first time this century, and which is true. They didn't make. They haven't made since nineteen ninety nine and that was the miracle in, yeah, but they have the bills mafia and they are probably the most intoxicated football fans in the NFL and I absolutely love those Browns. That would be -absolutely, but the bills did go to four straight Super Bowls in the early nineties and lose all four. Many times. Have you seen video of somebody pounding a beer and body slamming somebody through a table from a RV Laming table from an RV and their Buffalo Bills fan because, yeah, it's amazing. I'm not promoting this behavior, but I'm enjoying it on a flaming table like some so many others on a table. Make sure it's one of those details that's actually meant to be broken, not ones with metal on the bottom of it. So let's let's. Bring it back to to the topic here of tonight's game the colts we were talking about the for a minute. The colts are, as we know a very tough division, unlike the patriots, the AFC south, the Jacksonville, Jaguars, the Tennessee titans. And of course the Houston Texans, do you think that they need if they lose this game, would you just say at one and four that their season is over, like in terms of making the playoffs. Because it's a tough division, the titans and the Jaguars are kind of running away with it right now. Right. Get back to me in a couple of weeks. I won't say one informing you're done. I would say once you hit that six loss, then you're in trouble. We'll Tennessee Jacksonville are both three and one in the they could potentially be behind both of those teams by by three games. At the end of this week. So. The titans put the bills you following with me here I am with you. The titans play the bills. Would you say the, they're going to win that game. They play the bills, the Buffalo Bills from Buffalo, New York. So, yeah. Would you say they're going to win that game? Yeah. Okay. Do legitimate shot of winning their division? Yeah, the Jags play a tough game. They play Kansas City. So again, I think this is good. I think this is going to go down to the last couple of weeks in the season. Okay. Well, for me, I think this is a pivotal game for the colts. Unfortunately, I think it's a terrible time to have it because they're one and three. This is a looks like a fourth losses heading their way t y Hilton being out. I mean, that's Andrew, looks guy. Fourth loss would make playoffs almost impossible. Now for every team, but for this team in this division? Yes. Does that make sense? Yes. If it was the patriots who were one in four after this week, I'd still think they would vision, but this divisions tough, the titans and the Jaguars are no joke. If both of those teams win this weekend, they're both would top five teams in the in the league. Wouldn't you agree with that? The titans beat the Jaguars. Let's let's think about that for a minute. There only loss came to the dolphins who only lost one game. So what we think about the dolphins will see, but they're not. They're playing well, they beat the eagles. Do you see continuing being this consistently? Well threat. He's well, let's not forget the titans were a playoff team last year. On the worst teams in the playoffs. The bills were worse than them no way the bills were Hines, word, Joe. Okay. So you're telling me last year that the bills were better playoff team than the Tennessee titans. Tyrod Taylor Buffalo Bills were over the titans that that team was a joke. They got Sola opinion of yours as a joke. Are you kidding me? Do not see a bad way that whole season. That team was a joke. I don't think they were good, but they were better than the Buffalo Bills. I don't know about that. You don't know about that. Why do the bills had more to prove that tying the times the times were way worse than the bills didn't the watch the watch the play at all. Did the teens when a playoff game last year. Okay. Who they play? Did they win a playoff game last year? Oh, shut your mouth. This is the frickin. This is the ham. I'm, I'm interested. They name is Mark and I'm interested in facts, Kansas City Chiefs. That team has been a choke artist for years. Any reason to for years they didn't run the both cream. They didn't do anything to win the game. One, nothing, and they didn't do what you're supposed to at the end of a game to win as in run the ball waste clock. But they kept throwing the bowl like a bunch of morons, and they feel good to get that out. I'm just saying you're wrong on this to that feel good. I'm gonna say in Kansas City you, you're thinking like they beat a great team in Kansas City, Kansas City beat themselves didn't say that they'd be agreed team. I said they wanna playoff game. Yeah, the bills had to play the Jaguars title game and they will. That was an elite defense. What are you talking about? It was swim, so probably be a different story. The bills probably could have been the chiefs are. Well, I'm right here. You're wrong, but it's okay. It's fine. So let's talk about tonight. Thursday, this right now on your own. You're on your own. There isn't a football, the Indianapolis Colts playing the patriots. Jillian Ataman is back for New England. I think doing take this win. I think it will be very easy going to be tough night for Andrew luck missing key ofensive players plus offense. Ivine men. The New England pass rush, doesn't accumulate too many sacks, but they do rush the passer very high clip, and I expect looked to be under pressure tonight playing from behind. It's not a good recipe for success. And I think the ten point spread in this game in favor of the patriots might not be high enough. Without t. y. Hilton. I think so there's no other off its weapon for to throw too, and he has his line is still weak, and I still don't see like this colts team playing while at all in power. Shocked. Would you be on scale one to ten if the colts won tonight? Honestly, say seven because that's second the patriots still lackluster at best. So for reference point so that people who are listening, understand how shock re on a one to ten, that the bills beat the Vikings in Minnesota. I was in nine. Okay. Based on how bad that loss was that was that was talking. I said, this seems to be a shocker, like it was a big shot. Nothing ever see. But I will say like that was the most surprising. I don't know if I've seen a bigger regular-season upset in the NFL in my opinion, in years, I can't even remember the last time where I was floored by result because not only did buffalo win that game one hand handling and they one of the rookie quarterback, Noah Shawn McCoy like everything. Was stacked against him and they went in and they just taunted. Everyone thought the Minnesota Vikings popular Super Bowl, pick. I think I really took the Vikings in question in questionable position like our day this team everyone's talking about, I still think they are potential Super Bowl appearance, but it was probably the biggest probably be the biggest upset like in the season. Yeah, I just based off how handily beat them. I mean, I think this would be an upset of course, but of course you have Andrew looked. So if you have a good quarterback then upsets, don't seem that big of it was it was a rookie quarterback, I appearance. Yeah. And. A lot of things went Buffalo's way in that in that game. We can't take anything with them. They came in and they just smacked around very good football team. So what's your prediction for tonight? I got thirty one seventeen. Say thirty one seventeen now that we know that Hilton's not playing thirty one seventeen patriots. I'll say thirty one fourteen. Yeah. I think I like yours more. I said thirty one fourteen the sports five chasms stick with that. I said thirty one twenty on that on that podcast, managed three points without t y Hilton. Yeah, but it'll feel differently like I feel like thirty one winning. The only scored seven I would be. I wanna be shocked either but like doesn't like I know it's only three points but like that of a fourteen point win or eleven point win, kind of feels differently. So I'll say the colts are losing by. Maybe by twenty points for most of the game, but then I see maybe they get a garbage time touchdown to make it look respectable in the box score, but I don't see this being a competitive game. Yeah, I don't take imperative either. I don't see this as a potential for a. You know, it's interesting though before we go to break the patriots are twenty third and offense in twenty second defense there in the bottom half in offense, and they get a boost of that omen coming back with that still feel seen them play. They have been playing well at all. They have. They got back on track. They had a thirty seven when he gets the dolphins granted, but and they're still twenty-second. But before then they still struggled a lot. Yeah. Cool. So which probably take a quick break. When we get back, we'll be talking more about anything else to do with the NFL volume about college college. Football, there's some matchups the top five, not not too many great matches. We'll dive into it. Yeah, we'll talk about that. When we get back to you. Hey, sports fans football season's here and it's time to get in on the action with my bookie. My book is the industry leading sports betting website that offers real Vegas odds on football baseball, and all your favorite sporting events. You can take aside the total or even fantasy points props. My bookie lets you bet online and wind bay did the game already. Kickoff don't sweat it. My bookie has in game live betting on every major league and event. Even east sports. There's no better time to join my bookie. Then today go to my bookie to open an account and start winning use promo code champion. When you register for your account and get a one hundred percent sign of bonus up to one thousand dollars on your first deposit today, visit my bookies website or call eight four four eight six six twenty three eighty seven. That's eight four four eight six six twenty three eighty seven. Check them out today and use promo code champion for a one hundred percent bonus terms and conditions apply for entertainment purposes. Only void where prohibited. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team? Check out the GSM GMC fantasy football podcast. Get today's best advice to start who sit even who you should draft from sleeper picks red hot live, they got it all covered for you that GSM see podcasts dot com. Back slash fantasy dash football dash guests. We'll cover traditional dynasty Yar even. When you need fantasy. Hope. There's just one showed up. Don't forget to like on Facebook and follow them on Twitter, visit GS, MC podcasts dot com. For more info. And welcome back. MC football podcast, talked Thursday night matchup between the patriots and the colts. Now I'm going to go to college football. Now we have some of the top four teams in the nation at the moment are facing some relatively weak teams. Any upsets in this in these top with these top five teams. Probably not. There's nothing in that really stands out. I'd say. Maybe if there's any team of the top four, we stop at the top four because the ups are pretty weak. Do you want to give the matchups? Sure. Like Alabama playing the one in the one wind was Arkansas. Razorbacks like I don't see that being competitive given the slightest. No me there that I think that one's a lock for sure. I mean, obviously it's a what is that thirty five point? It is at thirty five point. I think our Bama probably wins by more than thirty five. I'm being honest. And then you see the number to Georgia playing of Vanderbilt who's three and two twenty seven point favorites is Georgia. I don't see an upset in this one either. What about you. No, Georgia's at home. They're going to win that game. Trivia question for you go most famous quarterback from Vanderbilt. NFL quarterback famous quarterback, pretty built pretty decent career in the NFL. I know who this is. You looked it up, didn't you know? I know. I'm gonna look it up. Just make sure that I'm right. I know that I'm right if that makes sense. I just like to are like. Telling myself that I was right about something is he playing right now, whereas he retired, he is currently not playing right now. Currently. Now playing right now. I don't know if he's actually retired retired, but he's not in the NFL Jay Cutler. It is. Okay. How you explained that just sounds like Jay Cutler. Yeah, right. Yes. So Georgia, they will quite they're gonna take care of Vanderbilt what's on that one. That one's got twenty seven points. Yeah. Vanderbilt, they when he's in a half finished three into, you know, we'll see. We'll see if they can make it a competitive game number through how state is playing Indiana and Ohio states at home. I think that might be the game of the top four that I could see being a struggle for us still think they'll win, but I don't know foreign one Indiana that is. Yeah. I mean, Indiana can play the. About. That's like undefeated. I know Kentucky. They're five. Now during thirteenth nation, that's basketball school, still the nation. It is funny how some of these basketball schools are really good at football now, and then I saw it sometimes. Yeah, like Duke. I wouldn't say that they're not ranked anymore, so. All right, or they're twenty five. Okay. At the most. But Clemson Wake Forest, any problems there for Clemson, that's the lowest favorite of the top for like the teen point, favorite wake forces at home so that probably still see Clemson taking this. I don't see much of a challenge for defensive, just terrible. I don't know. They can play offense, but they allow. I mean, they've allowed thirty two points a game. I just see Clemson is the better team and they're gonna take this one. I don't see any question about that. Yeah, so I don't know. I guess we'll see. Last week. I think there is some better matchups in college football, the one the one game that really stands out though is the number five LSU Tigers going to four to take on the Gators now LSU's five. Ford has ranked twenty two LSU slight favorite two and a half. That's a really short. That's small for me. You think should be favored a little bit more. I don't know, man, I think I have a Ford a winning. I think they'll win outright. When our right? Yeah, I think that if you were betting on this game, the two and a half, just punt the two and a half take the money line. I mean. I don't know, told football game. I don't like if it's if it's under three just take the money line. I mean, just take them to win outright how many games end into one or two point win, like not very many happen. I don't see this as like that. It was anyone as a lot of people say is really, is there reason why or do you just think LSU's just so good that do you see like a flaw and Florida or something like I see it to touchdown victory margin. Okay. I think that we should make a friendly wager on that because I don't see that at all two touchdowns. I'm not saying that smy one hundred percent gonna happen. I'm just saying that's a possibility that's I think is a good chance. Okay. I think somebody a fun game. That's probably the game that I'm most interested in seeing. I hope that it's a tractive football because a lot of times when these teams play, it can be a little ugly. Yeah. Well. Yeah, especially if it's in Florida. Yeah. So be humidity. That's to be super hot. It's a new. Let's get. It's terrible. What three o'clock eastern game is supposed to be sad for Ruutel. So that should have an effect. Maybe we'll see some players cramping up in that game. Obviously, you know, teams will take measures to stop that from happening. But as we know playing in that humidity playing, it's gonna get gross. Okay. So do you you LSU give me like a score? What are you kind of see? You said two touchdowns you if you had eight. Fourteen twenty or forty, that's that's a pretty good. Yes. I will say for two wins. Thirty seven. Thirty eight actually thirty eight thirty four in overtime. Thirty eight thirty four in overtime. Yeah. You kicks a field goal Howard, so that touchdown, did you do you have a? Do you have an like a sports almanac from like twenty the future here. You just have to find it. I mean, I did get the wild card game between the as in the wrong. So maybe maybe my prediction here will be terrible. Maybe maybe. But any other games you think are are are lovely people at home should watch. Yeah. I mean, we just talked about maybe the most intriguing match-up of the NCWA current top five. But number six, Notre Dame, they will travel to play the hokies from Virginia Tech. It'll be on the rookie. Short for hokey pokey, I would assume. No, I'm gonna think it. Okay. Sorry, people, Virginia Tech, but I think it's name is after the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around. That's what's all about. Yes. Notre Dame's coming off their their big win. It's a wolf, isn't it? I don't know. But let's talk about Notre Dame coming off, their big win against Stanford, or they crushed them thirty eight seventeen unexpected. A lot of people didn't see that happening, but Notre Dame really took control that game in the second half put Stanford away. What do you think about Virginia Tech? They're coming off a big win against Duke. They won thirty one fourteen previously ranked number twenty, two Duke. They did loose Old Dominion like we talked about earlier. Do you think Virginia Tech and give the Irish the fighting Irish trouble here. Possibly. I'm not saying they're definitely going to scenario Dame is a favorite by six and a half, basically. Touchdown, would you agree with that? I, I wouldn't even say make it just move it up to seven. Yeah, yeah, I think I think Notre Dame will take care of business, big momentum. I think last week with that win against Stanford, they've really, really dominated that second half, I think they'll build on that momentum. I think they'll take care of Virginia Tech. I still don't think they'll make the college football, playoff f. Why? Because. Live. I think they'll stumble. They always find a way to stumble. They overachieved and then they under wellm in my opinion, with Brian Kelly coach. So I still think that will happen. Okay. Well, it's still possibility, but I think they do win by at least a touchdown this week, at least a touchdown. So no last-second Fugler anything for you? I think it'll be comfortable. What about ten points? Can we talk about Texas, Oklahoma, nineteen against them tomorrow for that for the. When we're doing all the all the games. So the Red River rivalry who will talk about tomorrow of Friday's, podcast, football, politics, and sports Pro Bowl to bring people back, find us tomorrow for the Red River rivalry as well as the other top matchups. Oklahoma, that's a fun one. We just thought we just talk about, we're not. We're not, but I like to say that texts Oklahoma, similar to me as Red Sox. Yankees. That we're getting in baseball. Maybe like a another. I can see that, but not as not as talented. They used to be. Yeah, it's up to Texas, right? Like it's Oklahoma's been holding their own. Sometimes used to be like the one seed in two or three facing each other. Texas has been on a decline for a few years Oklahoma's been doing gradually coming back. Yeah. So is there any other college football game we can talk about or. I think we should take a short break. We can't take a short break, and then what would we have about when we come back? We talk about the injury bug in talking about the injury, bug in the NFL players coming back from suspension. Are we do that? We'll get good right on that. When we get back to you Ryan for this break. Hey, sports fans football season's here and it's time to get in on the action with my bookie. My book is the industry leading sports betting website that offers real Vegas odds on football baseball, and all your favorite sporting events. You can take aside the total or even fantasy points props. My bookie lets you bet online and wind bay did the game already. Kickoff. Don't sweat it. My bookie has in game live betting on every major league. Andy vent, even east sports. There's no better time to join my bookie. 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Don't forget to like him on Facebook and follow them on Twitter, visit GS MC podcasts dot com for more info. Come back. Football podcast. We just talked about the Thursday night football match between the patriots colts. Then we talk about the college football and some some of the some of the top ranked teams playing other. And now we're talking about the injury boat because that has been a big, large blood sucking bug for this definitely about next these first four weeks of football, don't you think so? Yeah, absolutely. This looks like the first real week in the NFL where there's injuries kind of spread throughout a lot of questionable tags. And as we know when the NFL kind of changed that whole rule about the injury designations and everybody's questionable, it makes it tougher for people to to to kind of predict who will play and who won't play. Kind of makes it where you have to follow certain beat writers for NFL teams to get the latest on players practicing player spending time with the medical staff or whatnot. Yeah, but like. It's been a while since I've seen this many injuries throughout the first four weeks of a season, and tonight's match up between the colts and the patriots we talked about at the patriots are relatively healthy, but t y Hilton. He won't be playing. You have another offense. Why won't be playing you? See Marlin max still injured for the colts. It's putting a damper on tonight's game. And as we look across the NFL I mean, Joe mixing for the Bengals. He could be back this week in his back of Giovanni. Bernard is actually hurt too. So both are questionable to play. Right. What do you think in? Do you think play? He's Cami just had a knee procedure done two weeks ago, three weeks ago to hold off on him until like we probably their next week the week after I'm not saying put them in right away saying, take your time with him. Yeah, we'll see what the Bengals do. It'll be interesting to throw to the game right away and wished him further injuring himself. Yeah, and the colts I forgot to mention Jack Doyle. He's also injured in Huston. Lamar Miller will fuller. Those guys are hurt. They could possibly play Jarvis Landry Antonio Calloway. Are banged up for the Browns. I mean, it's it's getting a little little brutal out there almost ridiculous Leonard fournette for Jacksonville. I mean, he's even like before this week. It's like Jimmy Garoppolo ACL injury in even with the forty Niners have been hitting the huge injury, but with a chair and also they're big running mkx. They signed for Minnesota at a free agency. He tours ACL, and then you look at other teams and just like. Tyler effort from Cincinnati with his severe broken leg or ankle, excuse me of horrified injury. And it just just so many guys just Leonard for net, their coaches said. Doug Moore under said that he's out indefinitely like this hamstring. So, yeah, I mean, he even said it could be two weeks. We five weeks. He doesn't know four of the five offense of item for Jacksonville or actually injured and questionable. NFL has been like. So like protecting orientated feels like and get guys are still getting hurt at a pretty rapid pace. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty bad. Yeah. And then for the chiefs. Sammy Watkins, you know, he injured his hamstring. He's been a guy that's been banged up for most of his career. I think he might play on on Sunday against Jaguars, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are cautious with that hamstring considering how good they've been so far. It's not a must win for them. But the entry Liz on on and on like it's it's absurd. Marshawn Lynch is a little beat up. He had a, he ran really hard in that game against the Browns. So we'll see. I'm sure he'll play. He's a tough guy. He he's probably played through countless countless minor injuries in his career. So. We'll see. We'll see what happens are like, why are you concerned about how knee injuries there are? Yeah, and I think I mentioned in the first part of this is how the injury designation. The NFL mean everybody's questionable used to be questionable or probable, right? So. Doubtful. Doubtful is the other one. So there were four sages. There was probable, questionable doubtful, and out those are the four now is just questionable or out for the NFL. So it makes it tough to know. How truly players will like Chris Carson last week for the Seahawks was supposed to play. And then the last minute there? No, he's not playing so it makes it tough. So she if your fantasy football fan, I mean, absolutely. When you see questionable, you're like, I just going to be out or is like, you gotta give me more information and you've gotta click the little the little little news and then like you're like, oh, that's not getting enough. I gotta go to Twitter. Practice. He, Mike, he's thinking about practicing tomorrow's like that's not giving me any information. Zeke Elliott is a big name to look for. He's banged up. Jerry Jones said that he will play this week, but he did it. He did practice in full yesterday, which is nice to see. That's a good sign as the Cowboys head into this weekend's game against the Houston. Texans. The eagles backfield is banged up Cory, Cory Clemente. Darren, sproles did not practice. A giant has been banged up as we know. Yeah, it's starting to look at every team and it seems like there's some big injury news or at least concerns heading into the weekend. There's always concerns about Dalvand cook they. He was on a pitch count, quote, unquote last week for the Vikings. He wouldn't aggravate his hamstring, but he said he's still not one hundred percent. Those are his words. I think they put the Vikings this or excuse me. They play the eagles because they are the Vikings this weekend. I think they'll be cautious with him again, I think so too. He's coming off that last year. Just think that they want to get him right. Everyone's playing cautious and I understand why. I think it's hurting the sport a long time. Any injuries are now you're putting in like third string and fourth stringers practice squad players? Yeah. And I'm looking at devante Freeman, he's questionable to be back. He practiced limited the most. Like if you pick a position that's injured back running back, probably you're probably right on that. Is hurt often too. I would say at a much lesser rate than running. Backs. 'cause. Saying, like, what do you think? Obviously, I feel like the quarterback is more of an impact when he's injured compared to when the Ryan Bax injured. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, quarterback. I mean, that's why the rules are like they are in the NFL like it's why you can't touch a quarterback, you know, because how many times teams this have awful backups. He'll try not to lay his whole body weight on the quarterback, Derek Carr. Remember that game that was, yeah, that was really unfortunate that should should've put it ending to these putting up these rules or enforcing these rules all too much about roughing the passer. How do you suppose to tackle someone without putting your full body weight on them? I don't know. Like you're at full speed, you're supposed to do your job and then also just slightly like roll away from them as your tackling them. And just like, I don't understand, like you're not taught that. Do you think that. See, I think that the reason why players especially in fell players get injured. So often it seems to be that there's a lot of soft tissue injuries, and I just think that they're overworked in terms of the weight room, like the gym stuff, and I think that they don't do enough like flexibility type training, so yoga. Yeah, absolutely. I love yoga. By the way, I am probably the biggest proponent of that that you'll find. Find you don't align life. I love yoga, and I'm a little bit older than you and I'll tell you decade. I'll tell you when you, I hate to sound like get off my lawn here, whatever. But. Yeah. When you get to. But when you get to my age and you like go play soccer, go play basketball. Anything I guarantee you, you'll find yoga, you'll do it. You might think it's dumb dry. Think it's weird. You might think that your movements aren't that great, but you'll find out the next day how great it was. Aged right for my eyes. How some gray hairs come. I got a few right now. You don't have to look for otros me. I have a brother who's a turn thirty. I think thirty two I should know but playing at the moment. But he has a lot more. Your brother who just turned thirty. You don't know if you did like a his exact age. It's thirty one or thirty thirty two. Okay. Always at least thirty. No, he's at least thirty two kids. But like in thirty two, he has gray hairs. By the way. Stephen, I love you. Speaking of running backs. You are not thirty years old, but her devante Freeman, he could be back this week in Coleman. Heaven cloven the rails in we Tevin Coleman beat up to Greg Olson's trying to get back. Their running game as as they should. Well, they're, I mean, they're passing team, but yeah, you're right. Like eating with shannahan like Freeman was a pretty good running back like, hey, put up numbers like China knew how to use the running backs in the past scheme and that utilize in the running scheme. I mean, the brand breeder right now or in Alfred Morris, you're playing pretty well all things considered, and I think I think it shows how much of the loss cautionary was to the falcons. I know like Matt Ryan has had rough times when he's first year with the new offense coordinator, but caution hand made him into an NFL MVP and losing a guy that that helped you get to that point is going to be a huge detriment to the team. Yeah, I agree. But I think because Shan do was the decision for him getting head coaching job, getting full control him in the GM John Lynch of it working really well together. Some people say in the in the front offices of San Francisco, just when you when you. Starting team team-leading, rebuilding process like the point Irish. Did you wanted GM and a coach and head coach to work together or does have blonde where they both in it for the with each other and starting up exactly the same day kind of thing. So it was the right decision for in a move, but it put a huge factor onto the falcons in how the show the offense and Julio Jones has scored a touchdown in a few weeks. Yeah, release been getting all the touchdowns basically in the passing game. Really to do pretty well with this falcon seen, he went to the perfect team to go to all things considered with Hooley. On the other side, he'll get more opportunities. We is. Usually when you dropped in the first round is running back, you're going to be looked at as the one as the number one receiver. But fortunately, he didn't have to go to number one. He was the number TS number two receiver, and he's excelling quite well. So we could see devante Freeman return boost the falcons running game, and maybe they're, they're -bility to score touchdowns in the red zone. NFC west injuries. I mean, we can do a whole segment the forty Niners, but the Seahawks are getting Khris. Carson back cagey rights still isn't going to play. He hasn't played this season yet. The forty Niners have Staley. Mike, mcglinchey an west enrich. Berg, all three offensive lineman all dealing with injuries and all did not practice you. West west has a key to lead Markey's Peter stew with the Rams as well as like Sherman and Goodwin also didn't practice. So there we all know about the point IRAs injury woes, but just like, and then adding with the other see west teams. Gerald is also hurt, but he's expected to play. The list can go on and on on on on you get, literally go hours. Talk about the injuries in the NFC west alone. Yeah. So with that being said, we kind of did a little run down there. Let's talk about players returning from suspension. Join. Edmund of course, will be the first one comeback since his team, the New England Patriots play tonight, join Ataman. Do you think he is the boost the patriots offense needs ranked twenty second twenty. Third, actually in the NFL in total yards. Do you think that he is the player that this offense needs back? I think so. I mean, the we looked at it. You said, doing patriots like twentieth or twenty second in total offense, correct or something twenty third. And with that brings another offensive weapon into this team and which is needed absolutely for for the patriots and with gronkowski being covered. Double covered almost every play, Josh corn just getting us to this offense. I think elements is can only bring positive to this team. Yeah, it can't get it. Can't. He can't do anything negatively. We know that Tom Brady likes to use short passing game to set them up, set his team up for manageable second and third downs. That's why throw the ball to James. Why out of the backfield they use him as basically a wide receiver that winds up next to Brady. And they like to get him in space. So elements kind of the same player this slot receiver, they put them in motion a lot. So maybe he will take some pressure off of guys at gronkowski. And of course, Josh Gordon who just joined the team. Maybe he gets a little bit more comfortable, but I think Brady will welcome back that comfortable receiver that already blink and they're, they're good buddies. So it can only mean good things, right. Who else is going back from suspension Mark Ingram for the saints, that's could be huge factor him and chimera coming back together. That's that's probably the most dangerous to running back combo in the league and only good things can positive things for Camaro in this one, definitely and breeze and that offense. It will take away some touches for chimera, but I think it will keep them still gonna get most of the touches though. I'm thinking like sixty forty, maybe seventy thirty. Yeah, we'll suspension. He's still getting rusty and still be not like in the bed. He's not going to be in his one hundred percent. Field shape. What's really nice for the saints is that you can play both of them on the field that same time which and be nice combo. You don't have to like for the cat for for the falcons. There's not really like Kevin Coleman. Devante Freeman, I don't really feel like you put them both on the field the same time. They're not the same player, but a one back format, Alvin Kamara leads the NFL in receiving right now. Think about that. You can put him as a slot receiver you can spread him out wide and keep Ingram next two degrees, and that creates a lot of problems. Keep both of them. Next breeze that to two running backs, hit formation, gray, Alkan formation have them, and you can easily do some easy clearly action stuff and still get some good positive yards by throwing it to the other running back. There are a lot of options. You can imagine a time you can imagine plays where, like you said, let's say they wind up with Brees with Ingram, one side and Camara next to breeze on the other side, and then you motion Kamara out wide the opposite side of Mike. Thomas is and now defense's have to cover, have to take a look at two receivers on either side that are dangerous. Plus they can just turn around hand the ball, the Ingram for six or seven up the middle. Yeah, there's so many options with Ingram coming back. And again, I think this is only a positive for everyone on that offense aside end even chimera because he's gonna get those more of those opportunities to make breakout runs brother than being the guy that they know they're good run the ball with her. They're not gonna pass to them with Ingram on the other side of him or taking up most of those snaps he's going to have more opportunities to make plays. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. For the colts, Robert turban running back is coming back. I mentioned him because Marlin MAC is hurt for the colts and they don't really have they have to rookie running backs in Jordan Wilkins and hime Hines. Do you think Robert turban has a chance to be the featured back during this time? He's probably gonna be third down back at the first and see how he does and go from there. Yeah, he has an opportunity. We'll see put a rookie running back at at the third down back spot. So I think turbans to take that third down back spot. So a couple of defensive players that are notable who are coming back from suspension. David Irving from the Dallas Cowboys strong defensive tackle the Cowboys already pose a very, very good pass rush. Do you think David Irving coming back, especially in a week where they play the the Texans might have the worst offensive line in the NFL. They're definitely up there. Could this help Dallas boost them for this? At least this Sunday. I couldn't hurt like he can't make it worse. Yeah, he's a, he's a good lawyer and tries to hurt other his teammates. I, I don't see it making it a more problem for for the his team and his teammates. Yeah. Yeah. He's a good player. We'll see what kind of benefactor that's for sure. Cincinnati Bengals. They woke back vantera as Burr fict-. That guy? Yeah. So when he's not doing incredibly stupid things on the field, he's actually a pretty good football player but that but he does a lot of stupid things targets guys, cheap shots guys. Yeah, but you know, his teammates of them, they say that he's like another coach on the field again when he's not doing when he's not losing his head. A head hunter? Yeah. When he's not losing his head losing control emotions off, yes. So the Bengals could use them. They play Miami now. Bingles defense has been struggling. They have allowed fifty, seven percent at third downs to be converted, which is last in the NFL. So is perfect percent fifty, seven percent of the time. The Bengals get a first down, converted on them on third down. That's that's not good, not good. So do you think he can be the boost the defense needs always to be a little bit more respectable in that stat and maybe in total on defense. I can see him definitely playing a key role instrument as turn short passing attempts by the team on third downs. So if he if he doesn't continuously aim for guys than he could do, he could great things with the Bengals. So Jimmy Smith is a notable returning player from suspension Baltimore Ravens best cornerback. Now the ravens have the number four defense in the NFL, however, getting him back, it's it looks like it's pretty good timing because they do here in the next few weeks. These are the quarterbacks that the. The quarterbacks that the ravens will play in the next few weeks drew Brees Patrick Mahomes, Matt Ryan, Philip rivers, Cam Newton and Ben Rothlisberger, so Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. Ouch. How's that for timing though? To get your best cornerback yet, but he's probably like, are you kidding me? Yes. So looks like he'll be in the starting lineup against the Cleveland Browns this week. So he'll have an opportunity to play against a rookie quarterback before he gets thrown into the fire to face guys like drew Brees Philip rivers, Matt Ryan, Patrick Mahomes Cam Newton. And of course Ben Roethlisberger. There's a couple of hall of fame quarterbacks in there and a couple up and coming young quarterbacks in there. So. We're going to take a short break. When we get back, we can be can continue about this and talk about any other news in the NFL we want to discuss and we'll be right back right after this. Sports fans football season's here and it's time to get in on the action with my bookie. Mybookie is the industry leading sports betting website that offers real Vegas odds on football baseball, and all your favorite sporting events. You can take side the total or even fantasy points props. 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Join us as we talked to in about the biggest names women's mixed martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's fright game, you know, to listen to the Golden State media concepts, women's MMA podcast. Welcome back to the football podcast. We've talked about the Thursday night football matchup between the colts and patriots. We've talked about the injury bug. Now we're gonna talk by the top five defenses in top five worst defenses in the league. But you got that right now. The number one defense in yards for game in the league right now is the Jacksonville Jaguars. They're averaging two hundred and fifty nine yards per game. They're they're allowing that's pretty darn good for you're gonna. Let me answer the next four, right? Yeah, but I'm saying number one is is probably the biggest topic at the moment. Yeah, what a great defense they have continuing from last year. He them staying up there. Oh, absolutely. I look like someone down. Yeah, they have a great great defense all around corners. Linebackers safeties defensive line, the compression of quarterback. It's just a well-built defense. All right. Who's number two number two best defense in the NFL yards per game. As of right now, yards per game in the NFL. Man. Not gonna get number two. Going to get. I am going to go with. Can't be the Rams. No, it's not. It is the Baltimore Ravens. They're averaging two hundred seventy five yards per game. So that is the second best. What do you think about that? Very good defense. You can always expect the ravens. Did you did you? Were you thinking about Baltimore? They were, yeah, they were teen. I was gonna say my tough, I, but I did not think that they were that high. I will say that I think that game against buffalo really boosted their stats Ted. Yeah, definitely. And they get Jimmy Smith back their best corner. So this defense should continue to be a solid defense, especially if the offense continues to move the ball. Well, like they have been recently ball control style offense. So yeah, I work for the ravens defense to maintain another year of consistent play. Okay. Who's number three. I think it's a red skins. It is the Redskins to seventy eight yards per game. I had a feeling you ready look that up. Yeah, I didn't look it up, but I knew. All right, fine. I'll I'll say cheated still. Okay. Because I doubted. You would have gone that if you didn't have the information. Sure. But all right. Number four. Who do you got for number four? I'll say the bears. Are they up there? They are to ninety four years game. Okay. Yeah, I mean they've been. I mean, the addition clue, MAC, I mean, let's talk about right now. He's at my defensive player of the year as of today. Oh, absolutely. I agree with you on that. Disney of strip sack and every single game's over at least four fumble. Yeah. He, he's just been everything that the bears expected for him. At least you're the first four games. All right. Who is the fifth best defense. You're not gonna get this. I think I might get it Tennessee titans. No close up there. Go more south. Houston, almost there does Dany knitting. It is the Dallas Cowboys three hundred and six yards per game. Average. That is pretty darned impressive to say the least. The thing is with that is that they're the lowest team with three hundred yards. They're like other teams with over three hundred yards averaging and they're the lowest with three hundred six, but still the best events is Jacksonville. I don't think that was any question. Yeah, another, the Cavaliers defense, I think we knew going into this year that that would be their their best chance at getting back to the playoffs with a dominant defense. And then with an offense that can move the ball fishing, maybe not score in bunches, but run the ball control the clock and then get after the quarterback on the defensive end. Now they get David Irving back for their defensive line rotation. That's gotta just boost that even further. I think that they have a good matchup defensively this week as they face a Texans offense that has trouble protecting Shawn Watson. Okay, granted now let's go more fun. Let's go the worst. I'm going to ask you. I have the worst five offenses or five defenses in the NFL go for it. Oh, so I guess the fifth one, the fifth worst? Yeah. Did you do. No. Okay. I see. On the sets. They had all this by barely Saul who was on the bottom. So these are the top fi or excuse me, the tough I've worked. So the bottom five defenses in the NFL by yards. Go ahead. Number five, can I? Okay. Number five. San Francisco? No. Really? Are they in the top five bottom five now. Wow, there's list does kind of talking to me. All right. Give me one where guess. If you get one of the teams, I'll tell you where they rank in here. Okay, Kansas City. Kansas City is the worst really the worst. They're the, they're the, they're the number thirty. Two ranked defense by yards in the NFL as of today. Four hundred and fifty dollars. I stopped looking at up to be honest at the, but it's pretty bad. Hauling me a second. Give me a second four hundred fifty two yards. I kept shocking. So you've got that one. I knew they were bad. I didn't know there that mean another bottom five team. Atlanta, Falcons. They are the barely made the list, so they would have been the first team there. The fifth worst defense by yards. As of today, I make sense in the NFL. Do you see Kansas City or Lanta improving upon these numbers by season's end. Kansas city. Yeah, not Kansas City as a little bit more promise because they have some defensive put, but they've lost Kiana Neil on like they lost some players. All right. All right. Let me get some before. Now, the fourth worst. All right. Is it? Is there an NFC team in this? There is oh, well, okay. Let's that narrows it down. You need number four number three number bay. No, really they do not make the bottom fug k how 'bout let's go to like. I'm not looking thing off. This is off the time I had bad. I've seen teams play. Detroit. Nope. Okay. One more guest from me for four. And then I think this is I think it should be really easy. So that think of teams that have played in high scoring games. Oakland. No. One more guests, and then you tell me who's number four. Teams that have played in high scoring games below. No, really? Really okay. I give up who's for Cincinnati Bengals. They weren't in that high score and I was like twenty points or something like they just one thirty seven thirty six. Well, that was a high powered offense in the falcons. I wouldn't say that's like they're making on the worst. I mean, I still wouldn't even consider them. They're giving up four hundred nineteen yards again in twenty eight points per game. That's pretty bad. They have face very good offense at teams. I agree with that. So do you think that Cincinnati, especially now that they're going to have perfect back, I definitely know is in their high-scoring Tampa Bay Tampa Bay thought. So Tampa Bay is number two. So they're the second worst defense by yards through week four, they'd given Belotti yard all their games have been scoring. Other games actually. Have they've given up forty eight points to Chicago yet and going with that. You could also think Pittsburgh is one of those teams there too. Aren't they? Here's your top five. Wow. Up there. We're going worst to best in terms of the five. Worst Kansas City is your worst Tampa Bay Pittsburgh, Cincinnati and ending was bed on that bad. Yeah, but I think that's all the time for, but do you see anyone taking over the number one defense from Jacksonville, not by season's end. I mean, I think we'll see some folks ration-, but there is a defensive. I like to talk about for a second. I think we'll be good right before we leave. Minnesota Vikings defense has been atrocious through the first four weeks. It might not be a good game for them this weekend, but I think that team is too talented in too well coach to be held down for the whole season. I would expect them to be in the top ten by season's end. Would you agree. Yeah, I can see that they were like the top them. Jacksonville were top two. They've been struggling, but we'll see. But that is all the time for this week today. Join us tomorrow. We'll talk more about the Sunday night games that will be happening over the weekend, and we will get back to you tomorrow. We'll see you then. You've been listening to the Golden State immediate concepts, football podcast, part of the Golden State media concepts podcast network. You could find this show and others like it at WWW dot Jesus, MC podcast dot com. 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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 268: The Rookie QB + WR Duo?

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 268: The Rookie QB + WR Duo?

"Golden state media concepts, fantasy football podcast is your one stop shop for fantasy football news and advice decided who to draft first round cowing Gaga and how a lot of your team got. You covered additionally Zionists deletes, he Li I, DP DP Lee, even daily fantasy football league. Joanna's we'd breakdown all the questions of fantasy football. It's the golden state media concepts, fantasy football podcast. A. Hello and welcome to the G. S., M., C. Fantasy football podcast on GMC podcast network. I am your Friday afternoon morning and evening host Ethan back here again, talking some fantasy sports daily Fantasy Sports, Dynasty Leagues. You know the whole nine yards we're talking at all, and we're going to get right into some really really nitty gritty stuff here. So you boy Ethan did some research the other day because I had this. Really. Really. Interesting thought about? What to do with? This rookie wide receiver class that would be. One interesting for you guys listen to also something that would make my brain little churn little bit. Make me think outside of the box how do I bring interesting content while also making things a little bit more relevant. In A. Dynasty comparative to a standard traditional. One Season One league. More Keeper League or even daily fantasy. What can I do to make things? Reasonably, comparable. Between the two. For Rookies, because sometimes, people will have to look at rookies in a different way. So for example, Rookies Dynasty League are looked at totally differently than they are in. One season. We get the draft done and we play out the season in wait and see of course we know how the daily fantasy structure works where you draft. Basically a team in money pool and they play for that day or maybe even that weekend depending on which games you play Fan Duel draftkings doesn't really matter. They follow the same sort of structure. So. What do you do when you think that you have a wide receiver that is a rookie that is going to be Bangor there's going to be awesome for you and you WanNa for a long time in the dynasty Lee and you also see that he has a rookie quarterback. Well, you never know how rookie quarterback will pan out just as much. You don't know how why receivers might pan out but I promise you rookie quarterback's are so much harder to evaluate, and you never know do the situation often to line coaching staff. It's harder to coach a quarterback. To NFL system than it is to coach a wide receiver. So What I did was look at all. Of. The last ten years, when have we gotten a wide receiver that was a rookie and a quarterback the rookie in the same year same draft MTM. And how did they perform and maybe there might be a correlation between a quarterback against to grow with a rookie wide receiver and vice versa, and what does that mean for fancy draft implications depending on the draft style that you are playing in the draft tight so Out of the pool of players. I had. There's only so many that I could really choose that made sense. So. I took the best names out of there because a lot of these guys weren't in the League for very long maybe maximum four years that if they weren't really good, they weren't getting a lot of stats so I had to make do with. What I had here. So don't kill me I did my best but. On this list we have quite a bit of interesting names here so Let me zoom in really quickly. So I can see properly and. Who Do we have here? We have Marquees Goodwin Aj Green T. Y. Hilton Marquees Lee. Delirious. Times Robert Woods Antonio Calloway. Andy Isabella Terry maclaurin Alan Robinson Daria Slayton. So. Here we go. We got a few of these guys. The earliest we found was Damaris Thomas. Eric Decker what a bit on his list but he really just didn't get enough now in two thousand ten we know that was the Tibo draft antibody do too much in his own right in the maritimes didn't really start to explode on the scene really till two years really three years down the line but he had. Twenty seven or twenty, two receptions. And he had. Two hundred eighty, three yard. On the year, but he had two receiving touchdowns and then. When we move over to Aj Green in twenty eleven of course, he came in with Andy Dalton. Eighty green was living the good life or the he was targeted about eighty something times. He received the ball sixty five times. had a thousand yards and seven touchdowns. So that's good positive right there because both of them made the pro bowl, Asia Green and also Andy Dalton made the pro rookie seasons. Good Vibes. He played fifteen games. Good sign right there next on this. Chronological Order was T. Y. Hilton who came in with WHO? The crowd says Andrew Luck Wow good quarterback right there andrew luck unfortunate retirement early in his career. But ty is still kicking the tires around and playing good football. So as long as he's not injured, of course. He got around fifty receptions that year and eight, hundred, sixty, one yards with seven touchdowns to boot T Y and in Andrew. Luck had some really really good connections that I am going to miss seeing on a more consistent basis. Personally. But. Moving forward. We have to take a trip down to twenty thirteen where we have two people on. The. Same team in two thousand, Thirteen Marquees Goodwin, and Robert Woods had to go play with. E. J. Manuel I believe, and I was just a recipe for disaster. For many many different reasons for the bills but. Alas. Mark is good. When didn't have that much going on for him he played twelve games only had seventeen receptions for two, hundred, eighty, three yards, three touchdowns though so that's pretty nice and Robert Wood on the same team had forty receptions for five hundred, eighty, seven yards in three touchdowns as well. He had. Quite. Quite, a bigger target share and that may have to do with the fact that he played two more games. Than Marquees Goodwin and let's not forget EJ manual only played ten games that season his rookie year and someone else had to come in and honestly after those ten games Robert, woods really did. Bursts quote unquote on the scene as a player, and he had way more touches going on for him in the first place. Next. We're GONNA continue on this list. We kind of skip. Will we get to twenty four teams right as Allen Robinson and he came in with who germ please Blake bortles. So Blake Bortles in. Twenty fourteen. Five hundred forty eight yard receiving forty eight receptions to touchdowns pretty decent rookie year. Didn't crack over six hundred yards. So you got to think that that means that they. You know. Coming into what we see how elite wide receivers in terms. We can typically tell when someone is going to be elite when the retailer certain threshold of. Targets receptions and yards touchdowns kind of fluctuating. If, you can get about seven hundred something yards within your first season and you can get to fifty. Fifty. Receptions you're looking looking quite good L. Robinson has had some injuries in his time. Of course, he plays he hasn't played with the best quarterbacks really at all his career at any point. so He's been going through it but hopefully, one day he'll find. Better value at the quarterback position for his own personal game. But moving forward, we skip a bunch of years. Right we moved from twenty fourteen basically to twenty eighteen. We haven't Tonio Calloway, and of course, he came in with no better man than. The Cleland manned himself. In. Baker. Mayfield so He had a nice little season. He had played a full sixteen games and he had forty three receptions, five, hundred, eighty, six yards and five touchdowns. That's really good. He had a seventy one yard burner remember watching that live to. and. His season rounded out pretty well, he played all sixteen games. I don't know what his future lies, but I think he's been on people's radar somebody who may potentially. End Up coming into his own at some point in his career. Now we have three left all coming from, of course, last year's draft. In Ted maclaurin Andy Isabella and dairy Slayton now Indian the is Of course, came in with. Rookie standout. Mister Kyle Murray, and he had nine receptions for hundred, eighty, nine yards and a touchdown not that many catches he played. Fifteen Games. Of course that means he didn't really start too much but. To boot, he had an eighty eight. Yard reception that was his longest course. So that means that took a almost half of his yard or half of his yardage was taken there. Terry McLaren. Fourteen Games. Almost sixty receptions for nine hundred, nineteen yards, seven touchdowns, different quarterbacks would, of course you know he did ended up playing for a long span of time with. A rookie QB. In Dwayne Haskins. and. He grew a lot and. He really had a nice young interior McLaren's name. Fifteen point eight yards per reception. That's really really good. especially considering the yards he got per reception. Ratio. Now. We moved the dairy played in, of course who was playing alongside Daniel Jones rookie he played fourteen game same as Terry, Lauren seven, hundred, forty yards, eight touchdowns. Fifteen. Point four receiving yards. or yards per reception so Those are the people that really stand out in the last ten years that have come in as a rookie rookie quarterback playing alongside them and some have seen success seem really good success. Some have seen less than. So what does this mean potentially? Well. If you are going into the standard league. Where you draft for a season and then you restart afterwards. You shouldn't put too much stock value in the idea of a rookie quarterback. Any rookie wide receiver are going to automatically have good chemistry and us they are going to play. In sync have really good stats and they're going to feed into one another so I would highly advise don't draft the duo of the rookie quarterback, the rookie wide receiver in that instance I shore. is too risky. If you'RE GONNA draft the rookie wide receiver mixture, you draft one in offense that can really be. Helpful to the wide receiver. So it will play well to look at guys like Justin, Jefferson who is basically replacing the fund digs in his role and I think he will have an immediate impact their our look at. Other. Guys. Of course, the Alabama where I received a crew was really really nice and of course, we don't know what CD lamb is going to be on the cowboys just because of. where he is in depth chart, we don't know where he's going to be. There's a lot of people that demand the ball on the Dallas cowboys. Often it's the same thing we've looking at guys leg, Caja Handler, and Jerry Judy. And coinciding on the broncos right. There's just so many people that will look for the ball don't forget Melvin Gordon. So many people are GonNa, look for the ball right? We don't know who's GonNa get it. Andrew. Lock is kind of a question mark, right? So we don't know. But there are some rookie wide receivers than maybe Let me let me look that way. Right. So I'M GONNA say. It one more time. Right I'm going to say it here one more time. Let's see if you remember from the colts who I'm going to bring up. Do you remember? Okay Times up. It is Michael Pittman Junior. He's in a prime position. Now, of course, there's a lot of question marks on who is going to touches on the colts running back. Wise. But is no without a doubt that I can't you I feel like you can trust. The idea that. Old Man version. Philip rivers is going to find some Nice graces with newly drafted Michael Pittman Junior. He's tall. He's big. Remind Him Vincent Jackson Way back in the day throwback, wide receiver Vincent, Jackson and. I can just see him getting some stats that look similar to a dairy. Slayton. I can see him even getting closer to stats a rookie tyrwhitt T. Y. Hilton. He could even propel himself to AJ Green status. The potential is limitless. However. We. Don't know for sure. But to end off the segment here before we go to our first break. Here we go dynasty. Leagues. You may be more favorable to do the duo combo of a quarterback why receiver if you really believe in their ability so like A. Joe Borough. And like a t higgins if you feel that Combo is great and you want that for a long time dynasty league. Stay away. From Combo. Standard Leagues. Only do it in daily fantasy if they're hot and you can depend on it. There you go. All right. Well. That's was my little research that I did not thought. It was pretty cool to talk about and look at some correlations if they had any but we're gonNA take our first break and coming out we have to talk about something that is. Raining down terror on fantasy football this season and that's opting out. This is the GMC. Are you looking for the very best nfl and college football podcast then checkout GSM see football podcast get the latest football news both on and off the field from the NFL draft to treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines. They got you covered. That's GSM podcast, dot com slash football, dash podcast, get updates, I'm college rivalries, keen insights, and much much more. It's football talk the way you want this show eat sleeps and breathes football don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Yes. MC PODCASTS DOT COM for more INFO. And we're back here at the GMC Fancy Football podcast on this Friday, and you know what the rules are here at GMC fan football podcast hosted by meat I don't know about everybody else but here are my rules that I try to follow. Remind people about when we talk about our favorite digital game that involves real players playing a real sport. When we are doing our couch GM in here what is rule number one? Are you with me. Rule Number One are you listening? Rule number one of course is to always be in tune with what's going on in the national football league. At all times and this doesn't mean that you're sitting here. Phone in hand laptop in lap. And I don't know watching NFL network on rewind and on the twenty four, seven news cycle, you don't have to do that. But of course. If you have a phone that's just enough you get notifications maybe wholesome media follow the social media pages. See what's going on in the national football space especially in the off season because you never know what is going to pop up on your feed that you may have not realized. That was necessary for you to know because if you have been under a rock for the past. Seventy two hours. You may have not noticed that the NFL and the NFL players creation have reached away in order to continue the season. But in those agreements, the NFL has agreed with the NFL PA to allow certain. Things to. In order certain things were allowed in order for players to reach an agreement to come back and play football this season and one of those things was being able to opt out. and. You can opt out for whatever reason, per se but. It's going to be covert nineteen if people feel like they don't feel safe or they're not medically. Able to play some people have preexisting conditions. Some people have children coming. Or some people's children have already came and they wanna stay check their family that way. And Those who opt out. Are allowed partial compensation. So they won't be completely without money. And of course. There's also a clause of the season does not even Begin. There will be compensation players as well but. We have to talk about this opt out because when it I was announced a lot of people speculated that there wouldn't be that many players opting out at least in the general consensus but more and more we're starting to see some players. Rise up, on. List about opting out so. That the first NFL player to opt out of the twenty twenty contract doubles as a medical doctors probably telling. And that was chiefs guard laurente. DERN Avai- Tardif I. believe his name's renounce if it's not apologize try my best. and. He says being at the front lines during his off season given him a different perspective on this pandemic stress. It puts on individuals and our healthcare system as a nation. So he cannot allow himself to to transmit the virus to our communities simply to play the sport that he loves and if. He is going to take risks. He says that he will do it for caring for patients so. The NFL season opt out rules simple anybody is free to decide to not play in twenty twenty. And for multiple reports, the contracts for all players who opt out, we'll toll to twenty, twenty one and players who opt out in twenty twenty will receive salary advances those who opt out for medical reasons because they are at high risk regarding cove nineteen will receive. Three hundred fifty thousand for the season in those who opt out voluntarily receive one, hundred, fifty, thousand for the season undrafted rookies who opt out voluntarily are not eligible to read the one received one, hundred, fifty, thousand dollars stipend. So he was the first of course and there have been plenty more who have come out. So July twenty eighth mark, the last training camp reporting date for veteran players in the camps. This year will feature longer than normal acclimation period before fully padded practices begin August seventeenth the twenty twenty NFL preseason with course was canceled, but the regular season is still scheduled to begin Thursday. September tenth. When the chiefs were supposed to host the Texans apple players have reportedly have until August four, four, seven days after the CBA site letter on the matter is finalized to decide whether to opt out of the twenty twenty season and earned the stipend contract Tony, and before it is complete team by team list of players who have decided to do just of that. So for the Baltimore Ravens. Andre Smith WHO's often tackle in the Anthony Thomas who is a wide receiver running back? We know who the Anthony Thomas is. One of the more infamous players of the early two thousands on those. Oregon. Ducks quads, speed kills, Buffalo, bills, Star Lou. Defensive. Tackle. Opting out. Jordan Mac from the Carolina Panthers linebacker opting out. Eddie. Goldman. Defensive tackle from Chicago bears he's out. Dallas has two players opt out Stephan good dri why receiver in Murray's Kennedy. Kennedy. Why? cornerback. Denver Defensive Tackle Kyle Pico. After. Green Bay Devin funchess receiver opted out. Houston Texans, defensive tackle Eddie Vendrell's. After out Kansas City chiefs of course, we talked about it. There guard opted out he was the first one to opt out. Minnesota had Michael Peers defensive tackle opt out new isn't has the most by far was opt out Patrick Chung. Dont`a hightower. Brandon bolden. Marquees Canon or Marcus can. Danny vitale. Tehran. All of those players all six have opted out thus far there may be more on the way. New. Orleans Saints Co Wick. Tied in doubt. Jason Vander Land tied in doubt. Thank goodness that they have a bunch of quarterbacks that can play tied in apparently maybe they saw the future. New York jets. Leo. Coloma Tying Ghei. Leave this house pronounce. Mata my Tangy Matangi. Koloa tangy there we go. Offensive Lineman opt. Philadelphia Eagles Marquees Goodwin. Who We just spoke about in the first segment opting out Seattle's chance war MAC is a guard. Out. Tennessee Anthony mckinney offense LINEMAN has opted out. The Washington football team Kayla Brantley Defensive Lineman has opted out and Larry Wafford who is still a free agent who was cut by the saints not too long ago has opted out of this season as well. So. So far. That's who we have on this list who have decided to. Leave. The season behind for basically a little bit. Also, we have not mentioned the biggest one that dropped recently because this list is a little bit not up to date but chiefs Damian. Williams. Opted out of the twenty twenty season. Super. Bowl almost MVP Damian Williams has opted out and why is it so imperative? Why are we bringing this up in fantasy football? Why does this matter? Well let me tell you. You got to pay attention to this sort of stuff because if imagine you're in a dynasty league setting, you didn't get Clyde Edwards Allaire and now you are basically having a panic attack because somehow you had Damian Williams Dynasty League, and if the season happens, you don't have that player anymore and you may not have the runningback death that you thought you would need to push through as not. Even the fact that somebody hurt is that as opt out and I, don't know if you can put him on injury reserve I. Don't know what you do with that player this a lot. We've never been situation like this to be honest. So. Looking at this situation. From fast perspective is very, very interesting. It's scary if you're in deep leagues that have full on rosters and are doing really meticulous drafting and play planning and you know years of team building in the making this little. Blip in the system in the in the Matrix probably stressing you out it will be stressing me out I don't have a dynasty league I. Don't have to keep keeper league currently. So I'm in the clear. Let me remind you people I am in the clear right now you know I was trying to plan to do a dynasty league this upcoming year so. I think it's safe to say that plan is out of the water for now just because we need to see where we are when we come out of this on the other side and. I I'm playing his daily fantasy I might do a seasonal draft. At the most. But we're definitely going to play some daily fantasy but. Dynasty Keeper Leagues. May Have put on ice for a little while and it just goes to show you that you really don't know who is going to opt out I think David Williams is probably. The biggest name if not, he's definitely one of the biggest names to. Choose to not play the season I guess. The patriots as a as a whole? Unit is probably a bigger story. But for fantasy owners just has to be this Damian. Williams is the biggest story to come out of this for shore. Really. impactful offense player has. Chosen to. Really sit out the season yet besides Marquees Goodwin who if that was a guy that you were really depending on? Hopefully drafted well I. Guess Hopefully, you drafted the mother guys or you found somebody to be able to help you out but other than that everything's been really defensive. Players Defensive. Tackles Offensive Linemen. and. Not to say, those are important pieces to real team with the fantasy you know is not that big drop off for them and. Looking at it from a season perspective as far as NFL, you know the NFL, very much a next man gig and depending on along is is not at a pivotal pivotal, a pivotal position like quarterback. Maybe. You know pass rusher. So defensive in. Edge rusher. You'RE NOT Dead in the water. Right they're gonNA find the next man up and even then at quarterback, they'll just suit somebody up that can tread the water until somebody else finds another another way. So you saw what happened with the lions man they put out a whole bunch of guys. You saw what happened with the steelers last year they put out a whole bunch of guys. And fell is a next man up league. It's not like if Lebron got hurt the Lakers done right because. There's a next man up mentality in nfl where the base especially, if you you know you've done well in drafting in personnel and personal development within your own staff and with your own team. You created a culture to where you can't put somebody in and their floors high enough to where you aren't going to crash down. And Burn. But their ceiling is not nearly as high as the player that they're going through that they have replaced temporarily of course. and. Then in the NBA, that is not the case if somebody is star player, then be a it is apparent. How much? Above their replacement they are. In, the depth chart from stat line plus minus all sorts of events statistics then fell. Of course, they have some of those statistics they have people who do. Have a kind of plus minus a wins above replacement or wins the average or anything like that. They do have variables to look at to where Oh man. This guy is really important as team most times you can see that on the field anyway, and you can I test does quite enough to know how much someone is and it gets really tricky when you're looking at linemen because most people aren't paying attention to how linemen protect or move or how much pressure they caused defensive linemen and things like. The war in the trenches can get really really cloud and if you're not. Is, doing your vision on that not studying them specifically, it can Carnegie Lost in translation and most times. Average NFL. Fan Football fan is not going to be a offensive line aficionado. or a defensive line aficionado, you're going to be like Oh. Wow cool sack or oh wow that pass protection scheme. What kind of cool. Clean pocket. The throw get their worth wide receiver ED, running back Woo. That's basically how does but this is just a friendly reminder. Make sure you're paying attention was happening in the NFL. Rest in Peace Damien Williams for fantasies and twenty twenty. We're GONNA take another break here, and then we're GONNA get into one of our to break down for the AFC slash NFC as far as team offensive. Capabilities for fantasy is the GMC. Check out the show that's built on the way from the UFC. Two extreme cage biting. They got the fights covered check out the GMC MMA podcast get the latest news on past or upcoming fights join us as we talked to and about some of the biggest names in the. Past President Future when it's the fight game, there's just one show checkout GSM see podcasts dot Com backslash Mame dadge podcast. Don't forget to leg on facebook and follow them on twitter visit. Yes podcasts. Dot Com for more INFO. All right and we're back here at the GSM see fantasy football podcast, and before we were talking about why you should be one hundred percent paying attention to the NFL. At all times but not really at all times but as much as you can when it comes fancy football news and different stand out things going on in the NFL and even in college football, sometimes you can get a little bit sneak preview of some guys that might be sneaking in your way on your fantasy football draft boards and. Also, we talked about what is it about rookie quarterbacks in rookie wide receivers being a duo that is so mesmerizing to us why we shouldn't probably look at them as a free ticket of points is not free real estate. On that side of the fantasy streets. Now we're getting into. What we started last week, which was we analyzed one NFC team when AFC team as far as their fantasy football. Projection potential previews, things like that and see how we feel about their players offensively going forward in what they can bring to us. And what they have in store for US eventually in this NFL twenty, twenty fantasy football season, and we are going to do their first team, the NFC. Standout. Almost Decade long stint at being above average to great to elite to above average again. The packers talking about the Green Bay packers so Aaron Rodgers is going to be the central talking point about the Green Bay packers. I know surprising woo who would've thought. We wouldn't be talking about Aaron. Rodgers. In Green Bay packers conversation. Well, the thing is Aaron. Rodgers didn't really bounce back as well as we hoped twenty nineteen and they'll given how little the packers continue to invest in the passing game. It's hard to blame him too much. But unfortunately, the packers essentially made no investments in the passing game yet again and twenty off season. So it may be hard for things to get much better plus all of a sudden we've got a crowded backfield of the sword and devante Adams isn't enough to make Aaron Rodgers in elite fantasy option anymore, and especially if the packers remain as run heavy as they were would seems very likely so. The General Reaction? At first one surprised many people not going to say I was thrilled by the pick. He's not to blame at all this era just talking about Jordan love who was the first round selection of the twenty twenty NFL draft for the Green Bay packers. We all remember draft night. We all remember what happened. Everybody was outraged. was like, why would they do this to Aaron? Rodgers is literally like farve and Rogers all over again it's a cycle is keeps happening well. Here. Let's go take it back before then they had a record of thirteen and three, they were second. Overall in the NFC behind the forty niners twenty three point, five points per game was was fifteenth. In the League they had they were eighteen hundred yardage with three, hundred, forty, five point, five points per game. Pass yards per game they're seventeen rushing yards set were fifteen. And their averages. So they average past per game was thirty, five point eight, which was sixteenth and they're rushing average per game was twenty five when seven, which was thirteen so. Aaron Rodgers finished as qb eight. In. Fantasy football. Aaron Jones was running back to Jamal Williams running back thirty five. devante Adams was wide receiver twenty three Allen Lazard was wide receiver sixty eight. Jimmy Graham. Was Tied in twenty one and he is no longer on the team. So. Here we go. In four games, Davante Adams missed, Aaron Jones cod five point five passes per game in twelve games and played. Jones just two point twenty, five passes per game. And two other big numbers that we need to know for Jones nineteen and sixty five percent. So nineteen represents the total touchdowns and twenty nineteen and the number that was dude to regress. Even before the packers selected Aj Dylan Sixty five percent represents the snap threshold. Jones only hit four times twice during games we'll Adams missed in two more times where he left early. Edition of Asia Dylan is just one more data point in a long trend for the packers limiting Jones from being a workhorse for fantasy football. So to go over there, twenty twenty off season draft picks. Jordan, love. Aj. Dylan. Joe. Cya. Do Gra tied in. Kamal Martin was the linebacker John Ruined neon offensive tackle. Jake Hanson was standard. Simon Sta panic. Panic offensive tackle Vernon Scott Safety in Jonathan Garvin defensive in the added Devin funchess who is also not playing because he's opted out the addict Christian Kirksey who's The linebacker and offensive tackle Rick Wagner. Jimmy Graham. Blake Martinez left Linebacker Geronimo Alison. Left wide receiver who was there for a while tied in Richard Rodgers left in linebacker cuyler FRAC will left so. Here are some rankings in projections for? The twenty twenty Green Bay packers. So Aaron Rodgers is looking like he is in a range of quarterback twelve to quarterback fifteen. Aaron Jones looking like he's in a range from running back thirteen into running back sixteen eight dylan is looking like running back fifty one to fifty six. Davante Adams some people say he is wide receiver to. Allen Lazard is wide receiver forty six. The packers defense in special teams is looking like they are ranging from. Eleven to fourteen. Some stat projections are looking for an rogers under four thousand yards, twenty eight touchdowns, seven interceptions. Two hundred twenty seven rushing yards in two touchdowns. which is for the rushing, of course and then. Aaron Jones predicted to get a thousand, two hundred rushing yards ten total touchdowns four four receptions for three hundred, seventy, two receiving yards in two touchdowns. Aj Dylan is looking like four hundred, ninety, three yards, five rushing touchdowns, three receptions for twenty four yards and zero receiving touchdowns Jamal Williams a hundred fifty, four yards one rushing touchdown thirty, three receptions for two hundred, sixty receiving yards, two receiving touchdowns Davonte atoms a hundred, sixty, six targets, one hundred and six receptions, thousand, two, hundred, eighty, five yards, and eleven receiving touchdowns. And Allen Lazard one hundred and seven target seventy, two receptions nine, hundred, sixty, one yards, five receiving touchdowns so. What did the packers draft really mean? Green. Bay. Selected the quarterback in the first round and a two hundred, forty, seven pound back in the second. And know why rec- Results Rogers is safe for twenty twenty but jones we'll have hard time repeating his league-leading nineteen touchdowns. Meanwhile, the targets that are there for Adams to have a monster year plus Lazare to build on a solid end between nineteen, if he can become the clear number two over free agent edition Devin funchess, which, of course, we know he will not be playing this season. So if you're paying attention, what does that mean? His price is probably going to rise a bit bizarre pay attention. So they're going to have one sleeper, one breakout in one bus potentially, and some people are predicting the eighty dylan we'll be the sleeper. So Dylan was a surprise second round pick in twenty, twenty and. The fans humidity seems to have written him off a bit in part because of the talented the packers already have at the running back position and in part because the numbers of high profile Bax who went before him in. So Bob Jones Williams are on contract years. So maybe Dylan was a long-term pick with dylan speed and size combination closely mirrors dared Henry's as a player who's very much has the physicality in collegiate track record to handle the load at the next level and the packers were clearly enamored with him think of Dylan as it high in handcuffs in a good offense that wants to run the ball but. Has. The potential standalone value with eight to ten carries per week to keep Jones fresh and given the nearly forty pounds. He has on Aaron. Jones. Dylan. Arguably the front runner for Goldline work in an offense that generates to five Russian rushing back scores or running backs Gordon Twenty. Nineteen Breakout of course, is probably easier than. Most to predict is Allen. Lazard and someone is going to need to step up into the second pass catching role and even as Adams expected to dominate the looks. That could be lazard and he worked his way into playing time between nineteen as it went on, and after not counting pass in the season's first five weeks lazard closed the year with at least three catches on eight of the final eleven games notably drawing praise from Aaron Rodgers throughout he's six, foot, three, two, hundred, twenty, five pounds is a big outside receiver who was impressive for your producer I was state he broke out as a sophomore. Posted three straight seasons. And odometer raking or the dominated rankings north. Thirty percent and the biggest hurdle for the wide receiver is being underrated college producer, which didn't generate much buzz and went undrafted in two thousand seventeen and he's trying to find his role in some playing time and given that he's twenty four years old and solid shot of making offense impact in the late round flyer twenty. So keep an eye out for him. A Bust Aaron Jones and. Let, me just tell you the Aaron Jones busting. Israel because it's not really about his talent, we understand Aaron Jones talented running back into talented NFL player but the bus thing is because of his ADP, we don't not like players we don't like drap position and Aaron Jones is an incredible talent who had him breakout twenty nineteen deserves all the credit in the world for his performance and abilities but he's also a tricky fantasy selection and twenty twenty because of the Dylan pick and because just how much. was tough will be tough to repeat based on how the packers amused him. Jones played over sixty five percentage of the snaps four times in twenty nineteen in those coincided with absentees from Williams. Three of Jones's five, one, hundred yard rushing performances in seven of his nineteen total touchdowns came in those four games, and now they've added Dylan seamlessly furthering their presence or the preferrence for Jones, to not be the bell cow every, snap? His receiving production was also far better than Adams, mistiming for those and for as much as it seems that Jones was at until nineteen dig a little deeper and it's clear. The packers treated it more as a break glass. In case of emergency situation is hard enough for backs repeat anything close to Jones between nineteen season. Particularly, the nineteen touchdowns when their team wants to use them as a full-time players, it will be incredibly hard for Jones, given the packers seem hell bent on keeping him as rotational role. So. There you have. That's kind of your packers preview into twenty twenty if you haven't been paying attention to what they have going on, and that's what they have going on I wouldn't pay too much far into their tied institution because it seems a little bit bear and at best you might find a tight in nineteen in the packet situation and if you're gonNA deeply maybe you need to get that. But if you are not in the so deep should probably look elsewhere and invest in Tainan and earlier. On so that while you're not stuck with the packers tied in because it looks like they have plenty enough options and the running back position in a run heavy offense that they're leaning towards, they will even have people aren't projecting Aaron Rodgers to get four thousand yard passing, which is kind of insane. But also is pretty reasonable seeing the trend that is going and it's not to say, Aaron Rodgers can throw the football anymore, but it's more. So a testament to what the Green Bay packers offense is. Evolved into. Mike McCarthy. For All those long times of seeing Aaron Rodgers basically carry the load, his whole career and his career basically Taylor's or. Basically parallels drew brees for me a lot and because the came around the same time as far as stardom and winning super bowls in around the same time in one one. MVP. While the other one also had an MVP calvin season. And they both were care heating their teams offensively for so long and now they're both on similar declines. reasonable. Older and also his decline is steady and quite recognizable. And Aaron Rodgers decline is recognized if you pay to the numbers but also it doesn't feel like it's coming as steady as you may think. But declined. Shall father time waits for no football man. But we're GONNA take our final break and we're GONNA get into our AFC team of the day, which actually is going to be the chargers so. Get? Ready La chargers not San Diego. HERE WE COME GMC Shakeout. Build around women of. From the UFC to the extreme cage fighting, we got the fights cover. The golden state media concepts, women's MMA podcast. The latest news coming twice discussions reviews mattresses, join us as we talked to about the biggest names women's mixed martial arts past present and future when it's the women's striking. To listen to the Golden State media concept's women's MMA podcast. All right GMC fantasy football nation were back for our final segment of the G.. S. M. C. Fancy Football podcast for this Friday I know Boo Goo. Tears. Hopefully not. Violent explanations. Or violent explicit coming my way. You know we come back weekly here I'll be back but. We have to finish up the podcast talking about our favorite AFC team that always seems to find a way to disappoint us the La chargers filled with talent and also filled with heartbreak. We all know about their current situation that quarterback Philip rivers is no longer there running back Melvin Gordon is longer there. Hugh we go. Justin Herbert was landed and just about the perfect spot with placeholder quarterback in tons of weapons around him, he probably gives the chargers offense more upside for twenty twenty and he's got enough weapons around him to make this a very soft landing. But in all likelihood will see tyrod Taylor or tyrod Taylor I should say to start the season at least and if and when the switch is made, will be something to watch so. Twenty nineteen review they were five and eleven, not a good record the Irish twenty one point one points per game, which was twenty first in the NFL yards per game they were tenth though with three hundred, sixty, seven yards per game they were sixth in passing yards they were twenty eighth in rushing yards with ninety rushing yards per game they had. They were eleven pass attempts per game, which was thirty, seven point three, and they were twenty eighth in rushing attempts per game, which was twenty, two point nine. So We know the finishes Philip Rivers wasn't there but he finishes his quarterback seventeen. Also neck was running back four Melvin. Gordon. was running back twenty two. He's not here anymore. Kino's wide receiver six Mike. Williams. Was Thirty Nine, hundred Henry was tied in nine. and. That's your big name guys who finished the season so In, tyrod Taylor's three seasons as a full time starter for Buffalo, is sixteen game pace was for four, hundred, forty, nine passing attempts, and that's at least in part due to tyrod both scrambling and at a high rate and also taking sacks at a high rate. As a result he was always near in the top league in percentage of drop bags that didn't and a pass attempt. In Philip rivers past three seasons. His sixteen game pays was five, hundred, fifty eight pass attempts, and as long as tyrod Taylor is under center. The team will have far less passing volume to go around and that has been in recent seasons. So even if Herbert takes over, he might throw a bit less than rivers did. So. Here's the twenty twenty off season for the La chargers I'm getting so much better at not saying the same San Diego chargers but are they gross? They dropped the Justin Herbert of course, they drafted Kenneth Murray. In another first rounder he's linebacker though the drafted. Kelly running back needed another one. Joe Read Wide Receiver. In the fifth round they drafted cage a hill in the seventh round as a wide receiver. They also got Chris Harris Junior at cornerback. In Free Agency and they got. Far, him in free agency as tight in and they got trae Turner as a guard. Lindvall Joseph. Defensive Tackle Nick Very. Nick visual in linebacker and Brian Beluga. Offense tackle. Because we know who left Philip, rivers? Melvin Gordon Russell Kun Michael Scofield and Travis Benjamin. So here are your. Projections on where they will be placed in drafts. quarterback nineteen for tyrod. Taylor Justin Herbert. Some people don't really know, but some people were projecting thirty one austin actor is looking to be running back six through nine respectively Joshua Kelly is looking like around fifty fifty one. Fifty seven to some Justin Jackson we don't really know for sure. Some people think that he's GonNa be fifty three. Keenan Alan is looking around wide receivers sixteen to twenty two, which is a bit weird to me and why receiver. I'm sorry Mike Williams looking like he's going to be around wide receiver fifty, one to fifty, seven, hundred Henry is looking like he can be either why retired in six to nine and their defense can range but defenses kind of a toss up. We don't really have talked about it too much. And we'll get some projections tyrod Taylor keep saying tyrod tyrod Taylor is looking like he might have under four thousand yards. Big shocker. But three, hundred, seventy, three, thousand, seven, hundred, twenty, three yards, the exact twenty three touchdowns, eight interceptions three hundred, twenty, eight rushing yards in three rushing td's on. Seven hundred twenty two rushing yards for touchdowns seventy nine receptions seven hundred, eighty, eight receiving yards in five receiving touchdowns. So that's a pretty balanced line for him. Justin Jackson four hundred forty seven yards rushing three rushing td's sixteen receptions for one hundred yards. No touchdowns Josh Kelley five hundred in five yards rushing three rushing ts twenty one receptions for one hundred, forty, four yards. Keenan Allen is looking like one hundred, thirty seven targets ninety three receptions for one thousand yards barely and five TV's Mike Williams was looking at eight targets for fifty receptions, seven hundred, ninety, nine and five touchdowns Hunter Henry Looking at ninety nine targets, seventy receptions, eight hundred yards, and six touchdowns. So the biggest question how much is the passing game missed fill rivers. So Philip rivers probably doesn't get the respect he deserves, but the fantasy finishes of receiving options throughout his career. Speak volumes whether it's Taylor are Herbert starting in twenty twenty two charges are likely to throw less often in those passes are likely to be lower quality than we're used to Ken. Allah has averaged more than hundred catches over the past three years in Austin negative ninety, two balls. Last season expect those numbers to drop in Mike Williams and Hunter Henry to lose some work as well because when you're dealing with lower quality quarterbacks as far as the passing game is concerned. It is going to happen and we don't know maybe Justin Herbert comes out and those barn burners, but it's unlikely and we probably won't see him starting for a little bit of time. They probably aren't going to try and rush him especially in the middle of a pandemic we'll see but. We got some sleepers we gotta break out and we got some bus. So a sleeper might be just with Kelly. So whether it's Kelly or Justin, Jackson someone figures will be involved in the charges back twenty twenty alongside Austin. In both of those running backs. Are Being forgotten about in drives coming off the board is late round picks. The choice here is that Kelly simple Josh Jackson is. I'm sorry just Jackson is a former seven round pick who has fantasy relevance and lead thousand eighteen after both Gordon Equity. Miss Time. But then with slightly used in early twenty, nineteen Gordon held out and then. There's off season. The team made decision to select Kelly in the fourth round and that. You. Think Jackson or Justin Jackson might be a better talent but reading the tea leaves the team to citizens makes A lean towards. Kelly at any rate. The confusion about who might be the number two has kept both of them inexpensive and yet it seems like. Likely one plays enough to crush the ADP. And one could be said about the quarterback room and tyrod Taylor is another early season sleeper likely to perform well above his ADP whether or not he's on the field. Might Williams might be the breakout guy. So truth be told a lot of people are not high on many charges for the twenty twenty season. But there is one guy that we might need to pay attention to and it would be Mike Williams twenty nineteen was quite irregular. So first of all, Williams's eighteen yard average death of target was two point three yards deeper than any other player with at least. Seventy five targets and that helped him rack up the eighth most air yards in the entire league in yards per reception figure north of twenty. And yet somehow, this is where things got a little bit weird. So despite all the explosive plays, he scored two touchdowns in two thousand Eighteen Williams scored ten times on just forty three receptions. So we know that his size downhill role can translate to house calls. If you remain if he maintains the downfield routes, he should continue to find chunk plays especially with more mobile quarterback options in the touchdowns that typically come with those chunk plays should bounce back in twenty twenty. And the bust which feels a little bit sacrilege to me as awesome. We're has been nothing more than a win for me in both sides of had him. Austin. Should be fine but listen about players about eighty PS. To be worried about his receiving value his ninety, two catches in two thousand nineteen are going to come down. Of course it's only natural. And maybe it might come way down. So for starters, the chargers are going to throw a lot less overall. and. There's the fact that the mobile quarterbacks tend to throw their backs less frequently than immobile ones nobody through tobacco more than Philip Rivers Taylor has thrown to backs at a high rate before, but he never had anything close to the downfield weaponry in. Buffalo. That he has in Los Angeles currently. But even when Leshan McCoy led the bills and targets in two thousand, seventeen that equated to just fifty nine carries origin catches and we could see sixty catches for necker but ninety feels a little bit. And there's also his efficiency so. Alison actor may maybe the best receiving season for running back ever is nine point two yards per targeting eight receiving touchdowns are both do for regression and even if his. If you excellent again in twenty twenty while his rushing game yardage should rise and he might be able to add some rushing touchdowns. We're talking about a difference statistical profile from the one that propelled Austin equity into a top five. In PP are league last year if everything goes right he could return value or get close to it but we can't be too sure that the ceiling to repeat what he did in twenty nineteen it'll be a tough choice in the second round for sure. So that is your chargers twenty twenty preview and if it was me. I think that canal is being talked about a little bit too less than I. Know He's popped up in the news for ruffling feathers of certain wide receivers on certain list. But I think that he is one of the more standout wide receivers game and he's a guy that has proven so far that he can get his no matter. The Situation Philip rivers was not a pretty picture last year for any stretch of the word now granted he threw football and there's one thing Philip rivers is GonNa do for any sort of offense and anytime is he's GonNa find the way to sling that football rock. And I'm Keenan island appreciated it. But I think he now is a guy who can. Stabilize an offense and be a really, really good target for. People's quarterbacks the problem is. tyrod Taylor isn't the malls accurate quarterback in the world. Sometimes, it's not the best decision maker either. And Key now is a guy who is an excellent route runner and he may be better with a guy who's better timing routes and things like that. In tyrod Taylor is not a timing routes guy we don't know Justin? Herbert will be timing rounds Guy, we'll only know. When the time comes for either Justin Herbert to start or maybe we won't ever even see tyrod Taylor touch the field at all this upcoming season. But I feel like Kim Nahla has deserves the benefit of the doubt. And I don't think him being wide receiver twenty two. That's Kinda low to me, but if you can get him at why receiver twenty two. That's pretty cool. And now granted some guys are going way above and this is like the whole avion bell thing. There's guys going above lake on bell it just don't even make sense they're in a running back by committee situation. Leon Bill is going beneath them because he's jet but no-one on any of those lists are going to have the same amount of opportunity on his to get. Beyond potential stats and what he can do. But. I digress that is your twenty twenty La chargers and this is the end of the. 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AP Radio - Playoff week

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AP Radio - Playoff week

"L had pride radio on six ten sports radio. Here your hosts editor in chief at Arrowhead pride dot com. Pete Sweeney and former chiefs linebacker Shawn barber yet here, the drums, and you know, what that means time. What's get your favorite? Our the week. Sarid pride radio editor in chief Barra had pride dot com. Pete Sweeney here with the linebacker Shawn barber American dream dusty lichens behind the glass on the twenty fifth anniversary of the last chiefs home playoff win and four days before the divisional match up between the chiefs and the colts ski line long week. We'll get into our thoughts about the match us before we do that, Sean as usual. Tell me something good four points going into two thousand nineteen as we hashtag blessed by the best one. I want you to focus on your spiritual relational help health to what you focus on your. Emotion on your mental health three. I want to also focus on your physical and financial health and number four last, but not least have a growth mindset. That's my. Read that one more time go through it, again, number one is going to be spiritual relationship health, number two, emotional and mental health number three, physical and financial hill. And number four have a growth mindset now, are you just talking directly to me? Or is this just general advice for the public? Those are just four of my twelve prayers. Then my church Adamy for two thousand one third of. Yeah. We're going to four for the beginning of these. I don't wanna hit you with twelve. Could you might lose focus? So those are the first four so for the first quarter to seize spoke on those four you can't prepare today. Usually, you're you have to think about your something good off the top of your head on my like that you came to prepared, Sean what's the name of this program that we do this is era here pride rate. Right airhead pride radio. So in our had pride has mentioned nationally. We're gonna play it. I this morning on good morning football. I learned this week that Patrick Mahomes as more than just a playoff game to win this weekend. He's got. Entire city at tire fan base and twenty four years of heartache pain and torture to expunge as well. Is that too much to say on the show is that an exaggeration? Have you spoken to achieve spin this week that I knew that she's fans had some scar tissue for some bad January disappointments over the last quarter century, but I had no idea the extent of that misery until I was more or less adopted by their fan base for being a fan of Patrick Mahomes. Earlier this season, it has been crazy. The tweets the emails the text from people with eight one six Erico to I don't even have their number saying what about this game? I can't sleep. This is more than just message board fodder on Eyraud head pride or an off shock situation. This has become all encompassing. And if you're not aware of the facts eight you're not chief's fan who's been through it or be you're not watching sports TV this week guys. Kansas City only six and playoff games. Played in aero had stadium since nineteen ninety four. Each one of those losses has its own sad story, and every she knows exactly where they were. When LIN ELLIOTT missed the when Payton manning up and down the field of punters were nowhere to be seen. And last year when Marcus mariota threw a pass that was deflected off a hall of fame quarterback we acquired midway through the season. And it went off his hands into Morio fans. And then right into this stuff. Like that doesn't happen. Can happen on the road. It's used them only in aero head. Elliott was one of the best pictures football field goals in ten seven walk. Guys, those teams they didn't have something that this one. Patrick Mahomes as their chief. Seems that lost those six games did not have unlikely MVP suiting up for them. This goes out, Paul Rudd this robbery go gotta do it. This goes out to Jason biggest Melissa Ethridge to the folks who Alicia gates McCue guys. The Red Sox beat the Yankees until they did it becomes could win series until they in the seventies. Could not beat the Oakland A's until nineteen seventy six when they freaking it is time to get rid of the curse and the difference. Is that man Patrick Mahomes? Don't live in fear. Believe believe believe Saturday afternoon is a new day, and it will all change because a twenty three year old future. MVP is going to exorcise demons for everyone in Kansas City this weekend. It is a new day Kansas City. It's okay to breathe this coming four thirty on Saturday. I want you to enjoy. Peter Schrager of NFL network talking about the chiefs in what they have a chance to do this weekend. If you didn't hear him the first time if it's more than just message board fodder on Eyraud head pride. I don't know if we need it all depressing reruns of what has happened before. But you buying what he's putting down here that this is different. Finally, you're on one of those teams what this little phone Hsi-wei going on here in Kansas City. I think you know, you buy a new house. I don't care who dad in that house. I don't care what happened in that house to to me. It's my new house you come in there. And you put your in your phone your union Yang. You put all those things. Now, you wanna make sure you've got a good aura you coming with your little triangle bail and little incense around the house. You do all that stuff to make sure all the Mojo at home is just the way you like it. I think that's what Pat Mahomes. He's laid foundation here. I don't see this uneasiness. I don't see the fan base that is up at night and that sleeping and having nightmares about. All these playoff losses of the past the one thing, I know is I'm having great nothing. I would call them lucid dreams as Mamane juice world. We haven't some lucid dreams as we think of our MVP candidate leading our MVP. I number one ranked team in the AFC for home game against cheat coats team who ain't played nobody beater Schrager on NFL network. You heard a mention Lynn Elliott Elliott actually joined fest go in the morning, you haven't heard it listened to the podcast page. There's different strategies on us. You know, some people in Kansas City. I think like fest go, for example, there exercising some demons this week. I think there are different ways to handle it. But I think you're right. I think the bottom line here is when you have a quarterback that is like Patrick Mahomes things are different. Now. You may not get the win on Saturday. If you don't what I'm trying to tell you is. Breath. Because if you don't I'm not trying to put that negativity in the air because it's not going to last. I don't particularly love this match for the chiefs and my going to predict them, I think so do I think it's going to be done fight. Yeah. Ken, they lose for sure. But don't I think categorize it? If that happens with the past because this is still a new era, it's any given Sunday in this case any given Saturday to me, you have Patrick Mahomes wipe away clean, no matter. What the result on Saturday? For me. Definitely. We have a clear sleep. It's it's clear clear sale in for the ship. One thing. Andy Reid does. He's he puts everybody on the same path. Everybody's in the same direction the GM head coach the players. It's all hands on board right now. It's all about getting a win on Saturday at Arrowhead to keep you have to you have to make your future this point. There's no no game scheduled pass Saturday. That's the only game. The chiefs are worried about if they wanna future game if they wanna AFC champs game. They have to make it happen on Saturday. We are going to have the Arrowhead pride tailgate coming at you previewing the game for two hours on Saturday. But after this break, we're gonna talk a little bit about our first initial thoughts. But before we do I want to just go through this the news that we have from today. And that's the fact that only one chief one chief mispractice story and Daniel Eric berry Sammy Watkins, Spencer where were all limited of those three. Obviously, it's not Spencer where so I should say of those two. To Eric berry. Sammy Watkins who in your mind is more important that returns full health on Saturday. I think I've always said against the ending up coats out of think the having availability of Sammy Watkins Alana, why receiver to keep the safety split and as long as those safeties keep split having to worry about why receiving wear was he too. It makes easy easy pickings for one Travis Kelsey, I mentioned we're going to get into it. But I look at this cult St. fence it isn't elite, but it's capable. I don't know if you can necessarily say the same thing about the chiefs. I know you'd probably argue that point. But I think about that. And I say you need all your weapons because I think when it comes down to it. We don't know the status of Eric berry. We don't know how healthy he's going to be on Saturday. So with that being the case, I think you're defense is what it is at this point. I'll buy I'm not the biggest Sammy Watkins fan. I think if you listen to me read my articles, listen to my podcast, you know, that, but I will say this. I think there is an impact that he brings to the table that maybe a DaMarcus Robinson camping's debut that Chris Cali. Camping table you bring him in. Maybe it works opens things up for a guy like Atari kill guy like Travis Kelsey. And all of a sudden you get that early season. Mo Jo back, again, definitely when you're talking about matchups for team that doesn't go man a lot. Then the importance of Sammy Watkins would definitely be multiplied because then they will have to worry about who to match up on tyreek hill who is a better match up on Sammy Watkins. But since we already know what we're gonna see this cover to shale. It's no matter no matter Sammy Watkins out they're not they still gonna be in the same shell. But those safety as far as how far they're willing to age off those numbers. How far they will into a lineup off the hash to show respect to that. Why receiver that definitely is something that affects the tight imposition. Now, good arod dot com. If you haven't seen it yet today Sammy Watkins was back on the practice field. And I'm interested in seeing how it goes this week because it was heavily wrapped. So it still concerns me that maybe he's not going to be under percent. Like you. Want Sammy Watkins back in the mix you want Eric berry back in the mix. But if they're not one hundred percent, they're not the same elite level players that were used to. I mean, you know, the the way we attack a cover to shell is definitely for verticals. You get any three four go over go special anything like that put so much pressure on those safeties on the back in you. You definitely want to receive to be able to get verticals fast as possible to continue to be putting a lot of pressure on him. So I think we need Sammy Watkins to be somewhere near hundred percent to be able to stretch feel vertically that we turn the page to Conley. We turn the page. My man Honey, thunder the thunder from down under. He doesn't derive does a great job when out there. I think he's actually probably like the third or four fastest on the team. So he can definitely do the job. You know, it's early in the week. And I see so many cheese fans coming through on Twitter and texting so on and so forth. They are so pumped up and cannot wait for Saturday. Get here we're gonna be talking about this matchup all week. We're gonna be talking about it at the our head pride tailgate coming up on Saturday. Two hours prior to. The game. But me, and Sean I'll give you an early look at this match of. And that's next aero head pride radio. Pete Sweeney, Shawn barber dusty like find the glass, our head pride radio taking it till seven o'clock big takes over would think at night, Shannon. I tell you. I went over four undivided around pictures. We can. Well, I think I did comment. I replied back to when you own to, you know, told you to brew taste, you know, I thought we was picking on the same teams for a couple. But then you went on your own. What did you think when three and one three and one that's three that's three games better than me? That was three games yet you as you had a tough day, man. You had two people said don't pick the chiefs this weekend. Try Leinen lane in that way. There is no carryover. Unlike the skins getting no not over this is the fresh clean slate. Again, here you go clean slate, buddy. Mentioned it before the break. We're gonna have plenty of opportunities to get in this all week. There's number of shows that we appear on so on and so forth. I'm sure to get into detail with some of these things but next couple of minutes here. Just want to go through step by step basic overview of this game chiefs versus coats start what each position will say. Which way we feel on each side. How strongly we feel and of course, it starts with the quarterback match-up Patrick Mahomes. Homes versus Andrew luck. Here was Coltart coach Frank Reich a Mahomes earlier today for God that was such a dynamic playmaker. You don't see them making many big mistakes. I mean, sometimes when you get a young guy was dynamic playmaker. You know, you gotta balance off with with the big misses that they have you know, the golfing analogy would be you know, hitting it out of bounds. So you just don't see that with with home. I mean, it just doesn't make very many bad mistakes, I'm tempted here to give Andrew luck a little bit of love because he has the play-off experience and we've seen Mahomes, maybe get a little riled up in the big stage. But he's the MVP this year. You look at his body of work. I think you still have to go Patrick Mahomes. Even though Andrew luck is close. And there's some people out there as we'll talk a little bit about later that consider luck to be this year's MVP. I don't consider pet Mahomes machine or like a. Android robot? Type you know, I do have a lot of faith in the way. He processes information. Have a lot of faith how consistent and accurate is. I have a lot of faith in the strength of his arm in his mobility. I also have a lot of faith in his inexperience add being over coached because since he entered the league he's been coached by one of the best quarterback whispers coach Andy Reid, and there are certain things the way he attacks defense that some quarterbacks with extreme amount of experiences. They think as a full pot. It's never do it. And so defense is not you're not going to do it. And so they stopped covering it. Does this quarterback battle change given? It's the playoffs or doesn't not change for you for for most people would say if somewhere during the seizing because of one of these have buildups for one of the games we played during the season. We saw some type of fault chink in the armor of a pet Mahomes building up to one of the big games division rival Monday night game Sunday night game. But we didn't see it all year. We we never saw the young man get flustered. And I'm beginning to believe that's not in his DNA. He doesn't feel the exterior pressures that most people most athletes feel at times of increased intensity of of competition to me each game is just another opportunity to get the hand in the ball players. Short memory, very short memory. I like Mahomes. Slight edge for me. I it's not strong. You take them home. Stiff, oh, definitely pen Mahomes. Finance your strong about it the strongest following running back Damien Williams and Spencer ware if he can go hobbling around with that Hannie or Marlin MAC, I can appreciate mall MAG having a few games in a row and a few five four or five games in the role of over one hundred yards being very secure with the football. He takes the defense gives them. He he's down here runner he compliments offense aligned very well. But if you tell me what I rather have a two headed monster. Or just one guy. I don't know if Marley met goes down for them or any kind of injury who they have in the cupboard. So I like the fact that we have a little bit of a fire. Nice. We got we got some different pace. We can come at them some different angles with our running-backs. I I like where to be healthy. I think even if he is healthy, I do like Damien Williams, you mentioned the injuries and behind. Mac if he were to potentially down the hayme Hines only eighty five carries on the year MAC had one hundred ninety five I like the chiefs against slightly in the run game. I like Damian Williams, you know, Spencer where can't go I like his dual threat ability over MAC again, not strong. It's not strong slight. Same for you. Or you're are you strong s. To me. It's probably more like a break. Even thank you know, MAC is good. But the combination of Maqutu too good bags like two together. It's kind of a breaking for me tight end. Travis kills your Eric Hebron. Listen, Erkki Brun is not bad. He's pretty good. But eight Travis Kelsey Travis Kelsey clear-cut edge and that strong e brought his tip. Tip tip. Good. He's shown to be pretty good for a very small sample one year, Houma bust. This is best for your his best year as a pro. But just goes to show man right coaching staff right situation with some of these guys. I think they got him in a situation. They got him comfortable. He's running arouse. He likes to run about. Thank when you break the film down and see it. I mean, he has a very limited repertoire of rowdy runs. I think he's very comfortable. If you just pay attention to what rows he runs. They're not doing a lot of things with them. He's getting himself in very good body position to make catches and luck doing a good job of putting the ball needs to be wide receivers Tyree killing Sammy Watkins versus t y Hilton Dontrelle Inman again remains to be seen. How healthy Watkins in mentioned that heavy rap on his foot earlier today. Here's head coach of the Indianapolis Colts Frank Reich on tyreek hill pretty unique player. There's there's a lead speed. And then there's probably Tyree kills me. I mean, so really comes down to I don't think it could come Sammy full health. If he's that wrapped up still after missing week after week after week you looking to tie hill versus t y Hilton. What do you who do you like in this matchup? I like tar heel think is one of the top three receivers NFL behind Michael Thomas and Deandra. I don't. I don't know who I I don't I don't know if I really put those receivers in front of him. I just noted collectively if you wanna say he's to me there's about two or three guys who are like equally as much maybe a little bit more. But when you talk about T Y Hilton. I mean, I see the effectiveness that he has against certain teams. But but again, I've just from a wire receiver as far as being able to create space and be able to make tough catches from his, you know, he doesn't have that to me at top speed of a, you know, tar heel, Tariq hill. I kind of like when somebody asked me on social media. They asked me would I rather have Tyler Lockett T Y Hilton. I had to think about that. And that's we'll Talal lock it averages over fourteen yards target now to catch right? Fourteen yards a target that hasn't been done since nineteen ninety two or something like a two thousand to buzz one receiver. Things other case they receive I think it was in Green Bay one of those first couple Jordy Nelson. Joining Nelson almost a decade ago. He like thirteen yards target. So being able to I think it's close to even because Sammy is questionable. You're not really sure what you get at him. I don't think there's a clear edge. But I know what you mean. I do like I said, I do like Thai hill over t y Hilton. But I like the combo just as much as hill, and whatever you get from Watkins ofensive line chiefs offensive line versus Indianapolis offensive line. Everyone has been going with the Indians of line that that has been a storyline all week. They've only allowed eighteen sex all year, not to say that the chiefs has been bad. They have some studs on it LT could be back mixed. We have remains to be seen whether or not that happens. But I think you've gotta go Indian on the line Brandon Smith. He's a local local kid. We gotta give him his respect being from right here in the cancer. Gene, Nelson is another standout for them. As Quinn Nelson stood at the gore position, he's doing things he's making movements. He's a putting his offense of limi-. He's he's depositing. Terling defense blam at how how rate they do a lot of things off the blind to create some bad situations. They allow no penetration. A downhill run. Running. So that's the point of emphasis, I think when you when you want to start this fight against the colts on Saturday. It begins and ends right at office. And you just got to push them in the mouth. I don't mean to rush through this. But when it comes to defense as a whole who do you like in this match for me? Of course, it's Indy. I like the chiefs front seven more than like their secondary, obviously. But again, you gotta give any Annapolis. I think the edge on David. I ain't giving into nothing. Tampa tune theory, bend don't break all that kind of stuff. Bobby Bobby, our deepest needs to go blitz. Crazy blitz. Crazy final category head coaching. I think you gotta take any read even with the playoff question marks all year long been accused of being a pro chiefs guy only a all chiefs cow time, the little secret people don't know it. I am not a pro chiefs guy. I m a pro and IGA I see I support Andy Reid, and he just happens to be the head coach of the chief. So you kind of get me. That's the you get a two for one kingdom. Here's where it scares me. And this is something that really you can't put a category on it's kind of something. That's imaginary. You can't hold it. It's not tangible. It's heat the chiefs back their way into number one seat. I you can't say it any other way, you can't lose two or three last games. Or and tell me that they didn't do the culture. The hottest team in the National Football League. And I've always said this. It's about who is hottest at the end. Not who's the best to I think the more talented team. Yes. But being on fire is scary. He always the terminal on you know, what we're talking about planning teams. They played against it's hard to be hat against those teams. And I don't think there's any any any way mortar anymore. Definite way to say, it just they wanna get some. So part teams the end of the season and got on the high street. Sean. I know you like money. Oh, talk about it often. That's what when we come back thousands on thirties your chance to win a thousand dollars. Stay with. Head pride radio. Pete sweeney. Sean Barbara are had pride radio on the biggest week of the year. It's probably biggest Eric pride radio episode yet, Sean always ready, man playoff push O'Hare, pride radio playoff addition. And we're going to start this segment with the national cash contest to chance to win a thousand on the thirties in the national cash. Contest. Text the word quick that is Q U I C K quick to seven to eight one one chief stock and a chance to win a thousand on the thirties. Only one station in Kansas City, gives you both weekdays from seven seven your next chance to win is tomorrow at seven thirty AM with fess co in the morning when he's sentence where ready shown the quick Brown FOX jumps over the lazy dog what? The quick Brown FOX jumps over lazy dog that was using every half of it every every every letter in the alphabet right there for you out. Now Brown cow. What is going on three just the national cash contest? Now, we're gonna get too hot take Tuesday. When we go around the nation to see with the national analysts are saying about your Kansas City Chiefs, and we have to start we talked about Peter Schrager, which is the Batman. Now, we're gonna talk about the joker. Kyle Brandt on the colts and chiefs percentage of winning this week morning right now. Gimme percent chance. They beat the chiefs in Arrowhead this week on one hundred percent. Yeah. All in all my chips. I can go broke. I'll be wearing a feral if they lose to the percents. I see your game Kyle Brandt. You know, there's not one hundred percent chance the colts beat the chiefs. This is going to happen when the chiefs win you're going to be wearing a barrel on Monday, and that'll be the gag and everyone will be watching because of that. I know the ratings game he cannot think there's one hundred percent chance colts wins. I think he has one of those like freaky fetishes. He wants to be like naked with a bear on national TV. And he'll be like, oh, I have to do it now because said that she would we're going to lose. So now I have to wear this barrel and be the barrel guy. Yeah. We peep is getting. Foxsports Colin coward on the chiefs colts MVP race lock in Mahomes. Make a deal whoever wins this game is officially the MVP. The league Mahomes beat Andrew luck. Wave. The white flag. It to Mahomes all showed up if luck beats Mahomes guys ready to do that. Then Luxy MVP if Andrew luck goes into Kansas City, if he goes into Kansas City and luck wins it'd be there. Impressive. Hey whitlock. We say that when that happens when luck goes into Kansas City in wins. Dr. That's not the MVP works. That's a lose mentality. I I've been on the losing in a bet before in the fourth quarter, and because I know of lost I come up with this long. How about this? How about whoever scores next wins? I'm down twenty two against my older brother when I was ten years old playing basketball, and as abra give me a break give me a chance whoever scores last the next bucket wins. And I get the ball. Let me let me let me do that. That's what it sounds like it's like playing the game war and stealing cards play monopoly stealing money playing tiddlywinks steel and winks. Louis Riddick of ESPN and his key chiefs colts. I think it's going to be about how well can Kansas City's front seven play against Indianapolis offense line right now, quite honestly, it's been dominant. It's really what is the catalyst behind the success that they're having right now. Chris Ballard told me this on the sideline before the game against the Texans. He told me when he got that job. And retold him do whatever it takes to protect quarterback and make sure he stays healthy. He's done that. Because you see. Now, they're running the football. And throwing the football with tremendous efficiency and chiefs have struggled stop the run stop in the past. If they don't play from a head and Patrick on his game, and he can kind of get up on maybe ten fourteen points. So then he can turn loose deporting Justin Houston, it's going to be a tough test for them. So he's going to be are the cheese capable but their front seven of either getting pressure on Andrew lucked or slowing down that run game. Does if they can't there's going to be score score for score. And then it's anybody's guess how ends up. I like Louis Riddick. He calls Patrick, Mahomes the Ferrari, which I also like. The key matchup is Andrew luck versus Patrick Mahomes. Do you agree with them and saying the chiefs front seven versus colts? A well is the number one match in this game? The defensive plan me has always believed that the trenches where games one D line against old-line on both sides of the ball. Right. You know, Ardila needs to punch him in the mouth. That's how you win the ballgame. You push the old on the mouth early and often you gotta come off their rug. You can't be reading to gap and trying to get into a pass rush. Move off the initial you gotta come off and put your helmet and your screws right down Quinton Nelson. Brayden Smith you gotta put it right down their chest plates. Drive them three or four yards in the backfield. So they know what kind of day is going to be because if you let it get going the other way, they can make a real real real soon last take from Fox Sports old friend, Jason Whitlock. Patrick Mahomes is going to have to perform a magic trick he entire he'll and Travis Kelsey are going to. Have to compensate for a major defensive deficiency that the chiefs have the colts are the better team. Andrew lock second or third best quarterback in the league right now of Andrew luck has won ten of their last eleven games of who's the quarterback. The cheese only they finished three and three to close out the season. The red coats have a much better defense difference line is nasty. They got this rookie linebacker nasty, although it's a more complete team. And I've seen this before I've seen the cold coming to ahead stadium and knock off a number one see chiefs team. I I'm preparing for the worst. I like wit lock. But here's sports one. The better team is the one who's favored in Las Vegas. I've say say it every week because they have the money to lose or they can't afford to be wrong. Are they wrong? Sometimes, of course, when people walk away with money spread right now is five points. The chief being favored in this game. They are the better team. Anything can happen in sports. Do you agree with Jason, willow? Don't rarely do. I. Often things are made up and to be extreme too. It's like he gets paid by the call it take Tuesday, he paid to put gasoline on whatever your doubts and fears are he he just he's exams for exaggeration them to the hundred degree the chiefs defense, being whatever he scrapped it there. I know there's people out there that are concerned about this chiefs defense. Here's what I want you to do. There's people on the edge. This is a big game. This is Patrick Mahomes. No one wants to wait till next year till he developed a little more. We want the Super Bowl. We wanna now for the people in Kansas City that I little nervous about Saturday. A little nervous. Just gimme gimme a classic tower, positively Sean Barbara pep talk right now at the end of the day the defense has one job and as to get Andrew look office spot. It forgets. I will give running back MAC many yards. He wants if he can if he can get yardage against the blitz. Then I'll give them nine eight nine yards care if he wants we need to blitz sky often early every down put Andrew luck on his back as much as possible early in the game. I would give up three or four bombs in the first half and give up twenty points just to get to the quarterback. So he knows he doesn't have all day long back there. The ball. He doesn't do well against pressure wash. The Jacksonville Jaguars play them for a goose egg a few weeks ago during this a ten out of seven games. Nobody wants to mention the one game. They didn't that that was an ugly ugly effort it was ugly. Six nothing offense of land got their butts kicked up and down the field for four quarters. But, but but this great office line is coming coming to aero hair. Nobody wants to bring up the Jacksonville one game ten though to be fair. The game plan was simple. They belived. They brought pressure mono a mono. They whipped him up front and go through the defense. How often you blitzing every single down? I would never play zone that once I'm coming six seven about bring eight hour would. Overload. Whatever you gotta do to up the middle aged at blitz. I want Andrew luck on his rear end early and often. What are you got thirty three twenty four finalists thirty three twenty seven Kansas City. Chiefs from Sean Barbara's points, we go to the arrow head pride lead film and draft. Analyst name is wants to no one outside the chiefs organization in my opinion, watches more Patrick Mahomes in the city. Can't are you fired up as Sean Barbara now? Yeah. Only I'm not gonna pick a muesli six point different. I mean barber. He's got him under. He's got him under the average that he predicted before the season. He's got the only winning by fix. I'm used to Barbara picking like thirty three negative four. Thirty three negative four. Come on. Man. Listen, I'm no people think I walk around with these chief colored glasses on all day. Even though the already in black. What wait is that? What is that think out there? What are you drinking? There is that red cool. Here we go with the Cooley. Chief colored glasses at end of the day. A caller how I saw it. The quarterback is awesome. He can put up thirty five on anybody. The lowest score was twenty six points are defense when we bring pressure. We have exciting pass rushers up front four Houston, man. Chris Jones those three hit him onto coming after a quarterback. Then we got the hawk Bailey and some other cats to play the run. Autumn other caches played a run. Frigging block party. I want to switch gears from the defense Kent to your area of specialties. And that's of course, Patrick Mahomes. I think big concern for people or at least one of the current concerns that some of these games that at the big stage. Talking patriots game Rams Seahawks. He's come out. And he's just been a little bit juiced. Have you seen development with that as he's gone on here? I mean against the Oakland Raiders, I know it wasn't a night game. But it's a game. You had to win you feel confident that he's going to be cool. Calm and collected come Saturday afternoon. You know, I think it's kinda little to the point. Right. Like he's had offered -tunities in big moments on big stages to go out. And you know, maybe get some of those some of the jitters out of the way, I'm sure you'll probably be a little bit hiker -ly. But I think he's done a pretty good job of settling back in even like, I think, you know, maybe, you know, early in the season, it might have been a drive drive thing where maybe a early driver to might not go as perfect because he's a little bit high. But I think I think the the amount of time it takes them to settle in his actually so down pretty good. Maybe he's a little juice on a first and second down. And then he just comes out and treat the third and long like, it's nothing, you know, because that's what he's done all year. I think he's going to be fine that he's going to settle in. And I'm really not that concerned about the defense face and this week. I think what concerns me is I feel like this matchup is closer than you would like I mean, we are down to the final four teams here in the AFC. So of course, it's going to be the. The best of the best. But to me like the thing concerns me about Mahomes as you almost has to play perfectly to make sure the take care of this win. I look Mahomes, and I and I think to myself. All right. This is why you drafted this guy. And he is at least saying all the right things. How does Andrew luck in your opinion come into play? I know you've watched Mahomes, but luck has been as close as you could get to Mahomes, which of course, has an enclosed thing. We both agree that Mahomes, the clearcut N B P. But how would you rate Andrew lucked coming into this game based upon his season? And what you saw Houston Texas last weekend. Oh, look, look certainly there. I mean, I don't think you can argue that at all he's he's been exceptional this year. He's a lot. He's very similar to the guy. We saw before you know, some of these these horrific injuries. And and I he looks like the Andrew luck of. And you know, he's definitely a guy that can come in here and do some of the things that that were used especially with the defensive side of the ball. But I do expect and Patrick Mahomes in a game. Like this to elevate. You know, his game elevate his team and do the things that are required of pulling out a game and beating off so many demons hearing here in Kansas City that we've seen for so long. So like give me Mahomes, but luck is more than capable of of putting on a show. Well, that is the voice of our pride lead film and draft analyst Swanson he'll be in-studio with me for the head pride tailgate on Saturday. Fortunately, be me UN and. Unfortunately, Mike wicket can't. I just wanna I wanna apologize advance for that. We appreciate you joining us. Enjoy the week. All right, buddy. Can't of course is the leader of the Arrowhead pride nerd squad who you can find on make it night coming up right after this Matt lane film analyst four seven thirty. Tonight creek stout comes on defensive film analyst, eight pm on Wednesdays and Kent wraps it up six thirty PM on Thursdays. In-depth Xs knows on big at night again coming up after this. But before we get all that good at Twitter dot com slash our at bride. Get your tweets in. We're going to read them and comment Amman? That's next. Errol had pride radio. Pete's mini. Shawn barber wrapping up era had pride radio. I said at the top twenty fifth anniversary of the last chiefs home playoff winnow flea that goes away is coming Saturday hanging out. Shawn barber American dream dusty likens Rohan, Gary no one's back there. I just found out and we are going to right now as we do every week three tweets. I step rob Doni, again, not feels good feels good, Nick. How much of a concern is that t y Hilton can break free just as easily as title Ken is defense prepared for speed. Worth Hilton is nowhere near as fast. Maybe maybe maybe it's not they both begin their name the same the same writers that confused. What? You can't see this year. Sean just throw away that tweet motion. I would rather have Tyler Lockett come in play a real wide receiver position. Then a guy come to the stadium. With a clown mask on in response to another guys tweet on the other side, Jad romance. Even with the Super Bowl win. Bob Sutton has to go, right? Are you crazy? No one that wins. The Super Bowl is getting rid of staff about sudden has led a defense. It was number one and sex thing. Number three and turnovers. Top three and two of the most critical area man in for this. And in over. Three of the top four teams and overall defense guests sent home during well call weekend. You wanna be the bears defense, you you wanna be. The ravens defense you want to beat the Houston Texas defense that's three of the top defense in the NFL this year, and they all get sent home often score points. That's how you make it in the playoffs. They nineteen. They bring you in for motivational speech, president keep McLean. How much Patrick Mahomes cannon not care about the history versus the colts. I think that's a parent. You ask him about these people were trying to ask him today about and he he says this is a new generation new game. I think that's exactly the mind frame. You want for them? He's been learning for the best quarterback coach he learned from Alex Smith last year and learn things he couldn't do. And since he's been on the field. He's been doing doing what pet do he's not trying to be a better version anybody's out there. Putting the ball in the hands of his playmakers. That's what he said he wanted to do since training camp. And he's done it every game. Jose will Andy learn from the last colts playoff loss and be extra aggress. Thumb injury. You Patrick Mahomes in Sammy back in the mix. Suddenly offense is back. I hope the back to what it was early in the season. You don't stop scoring ever. I don't care if the the scoreboard read sixty points, right? We try to Kardashian break internet Patrick Mahomes in his office. Try to break the schoolboy, whatever your they need to get to the break the scoreboard, man. Just rolling it up. Just keep attacking that cover to keep attacking, no matter. What the scores Sean says he's been rubbing out the top of a mini helmet to wear out the demons before Saturday, y'all are welcome. I think row K without rubbing the helmet Jonathan's. Got a message for chief kingdom. Do not fear the game. That's coming this weekend. One cannot overcome their demons without facing down. This is not an obstacle to be feared it's an opportunity to embrace if a Sunday Jonathan shown. No, I got I gotta Nico. No deacon. Got a Kate. And I got a Sander I got five of young old basketball team, and a cheerleader names there that asks if e b plays do we feel good about him shutting down abra n-? If it's all hands on board note Amari Bs on board Sammy Watkins onboard DOD's on everybody's on the Ross's onboard. You gotta create your tomorrow, that's playoff mentality. Chana need a bottom line here from j Lyons who wins coal line or chiefs pass rush. Bottom line is it don't matter. Create your tomorrow. Chiefs got more points at the end of the game in the colts. Whether it's one or as one hundred that chief kingdom moves on your ready for championship game, baby. Todd, lots asked something you might be familiar with John what's difference between this game? And the no punt game. Ooh, you about the piss meal. What is the difference? Patrick, Mahomes, m B pets has tag 'em. Be Pat has tag watch it. No look pass on a dime. Anytime. Let's do this from buddy Thomson. Just saw the weather change any impact on the game. You think I mean, you would think that an in worse weather, there'd be less throwing the football. But I don't think you can do that. With these two quarterback outdoor team. Bring on the weather bring on the snow to sleet, whatever you wanna bring it on. We're we we are destined for that. We can handle the is the other team coming here to plays in a dome controlled environment. Can't win on the road can't win. When his outside of don't bring on elements last question snowman his Travers wore the chiefs secret weapon or not. I love ward. I love my love. My love him Mira coverage. He can hang with anybody. Top speed off the. Chart. I love that guy. We only we gotta be on lookout for as one Maliki Hooker. Don't though it his way that joker can go. You like him me hookah is a ball player. I had them in the top rank defensive player in his draft class. 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Week 12 TNF Preview

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Week 12 TNF Preview

"At IBM problems inspire us to push the world forward. That's why so many people work with us on everything from city traffic to Shen plastic smart loves problems. Ibm A. B. M. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM DOT COM slash smart to learn more welcome in to Thursday edition. Finish Focus. I would ball podcast. It is Field Mike and star fun you hanging out with you. Get you ready for everything. As it pertains the game getting a you know just getting Zen. Okay okay page aged find us getting sharing with you. We can all be in that space feel so real air enough. We've got a huge game a huge monumental. AFC Sal showdown between tween the colts and the Texans. The game is being played in Houston Bowl. Teams are six and four. The colts won the first match. Back in indy. Revenge on the mind wind tonight for the Texans and we'll get to a full game preview of that we've got all kinds of wide receiver. cornerback matchup stuff. Got Some browns talk because gets Keith. Is there but before we do all that. You're probably wondering who is in my handwriting bringing wondering that nobody's wondering now. Yeah wondering. Recently Daniel. I opened up the mail and had this large box waiting for me. And I'm thinking to myself what I I don't remember anything. Maybe my wife Barb my credit card. She's allowed lousy do that now right. I can't tell her what she can and can't do. nope wasn't that instead. I got a box and it had a little pamphlet of sorts. Here just a little tiny card. It said Kenneth Show ever have enough bells Hashtag Hall of shame at Chuck Chuck Lazzaro must have sent us this. Shame Shame Bell more specifically here you go. This is not often get in all the way I can just remember. Those who watch game of thrones you understand the reference for the shame name. Shame shame part is cool as you can see if you're watching on the live stream and then how about this. We have our very great. We know great. Call of Shame Bell Right here and you're wondering to yourself Wakefield. When did this arrived at arrive yesterday in the mail now it did arrive yesterday the mail? So why are you busting it out. Today was a very good question that I have an engineer. Who Listen to the PODCAST? Daily may remember around last week. Daniel Daniel DOPP pushed his chips into the middle of the table and we half of Odell Beckham added to see news from the national. The following is the key guys in the underscore No but you know. Here's the thing is that so technically we're ringing the bell. One time in honor honor. Roll this thing a little bit. But Day you'll have the call of DELVINA top twelve well. What are super last week? I did dish. How did that work out for you? But I want to take Daniel off the hook because we watch last Thursday night not only do we all watch it enthusiastically mystically Beckham junior on the. What are the browns seven days catches? What looks like a forty plus yard touchdown it it elicited so much excitement that within moments we had we had our group we are a group text chain and you'll nail that Danielle is these soothsayer? Daniel is officially on his way to call fame status. It was not real touchdown which I take the task but Daniel did wind up our. Oh especially say Odell windup bound up outside the top thirty which means Dan and gets our first reading of the college shame Daniel. I actually think that it's like a call of fame. Aim to be the first person to get the call of shame. Yeah I like where your head's at and I think I agree with you because someone's always gotta be the first and I don't mind taking it on the Chin for you guys as a group you know what I mean but the truth is after okay bidding. You do mind because when I was the first to point out that it turned from a call fame to college. Shame I got four letters back when I put it this way. Not what any of us be allowed to say it because it's a children's lives Sri right but me the non swearing party. Would I be allowed to say no you would not. Oh then you got spicy on. I didn't text. It was a gift and solved of all things thank you can I swear gifts or no. I think that we'll have to its intent for being legal. Your heart pure. My heart is pure. Okay if your heart superior than you can say what you need to save enough so call fame. Call of shame bell. I actually kind of wonder if like well shame bill makes sense. What do you get if you eat meat? They call fame. Do we have some sort of other prop to probably get some nice like like You Know Matthew you don't you don't have to work on the show that Matthews on slow by the way you've seen game of thrones episode. The person who is essentially being put in the call of shame in the show to walk through the streets naked. Don't take your clothes off please. Yeah Yeah I want to be clear about that. Yeah exactly you're used to that so please refrain us. Says it's really not Shrestha buttons again. He's down to an emory t time to move on. Let's get right to the news and we. I have some news on the injury front and it begins Tyler lockets to find you. The Eagles seahawks returned to practice in advance of their game against the Eagles and Pete Carroll ever the off from says he does believe that will be available on Sunday. Do you buy it. Yes because they're lock. It was back in practice date earlier than expected so we talked about the fact that he had to stay in the bay area hospital. After having the Shin contusion to monitor him for compartment syndrome luckily everything turned out. Well he flew back to be with the team but we wouldn't know until until practice this week because obviously had the bye in between very good timing for them. We wouldn't know what to think. They were expecting him to come to practice. Thursday he came Wednesday and he was limited but this is all lining up for him to be available to play so we wanted to give you that little heads. Okay Good News on tower lock. Obviously he plays you feel pretty good about platinum. I I will say this though. Mike and you are a resident Eagles Fan. The Eagles defence is no longer ban. Now we're hikes in a row or over the past. They've been good they lead the NFL. Do you know this. The Eagles Since Week Eight so eight nine ten eleven do they have their by before that or no No I think it was it mixed in there. Okay whatever they play three mixed. Isn't that works in that four week stretch number number one in the NFL in yards per game allowed number one in the NFL in yards per. Play that defense is no longer a sip their good now. They've been good against Iran since Shalem Milas come back. He's been really good for about a month here and actually along the seventh fantasy points wide receiver still the fuse to the slot. That's been going on all season. The Ronald Darby side of the field is where they've kind of been week so that's Deepak. He came back half side. Maybe he takes advantage here. But you're right could be a little bit of long. Whose defense was really good until they dealt with Russell Wilson? Yeah the niners so so good luck with that. I still think. Russell Wilson as a magician. more news on the Wide Receiver Front is Juju Smith Schuster star on. What do you know about the steelers? wideout well Credit Jeremy Fowler our colleague who covers all things. NFL for us and that Already saying that. He's not expected to play again. This is why we you WanNa talk about this now so you can make alternate plans juice. Miss Shuster in addition to the concussion that we saw him suffered last time he played also with a knee injury. It's not considered serious. But certainly the combination of the two enough to keep him out for this week. Don't forget Dante Johnson also suffered a concussion. Now he was At practice on Wednesday. So that's a good sign but does not necessarily mean he'll be cleared. They could be very thin at wide receiver not to mention. They're running back. We'll talk about all of them tomorrow soon. As say the star sort of have align their. If you've noticed the steelers in recent days of added Dion Cain law moved the colts right off their practice squad they added running back from the bears. Bears practice squad. They are so thin and skill position players right now in Pittsburgh we've gone a long way since the three killer bees in Pittsburgh so juju out Mike. I think think you'd be hard pressed to start any steelers wide receiver this week. Assuming that both Juju Andy Andre Johnson are actually out yes no question about it if Johnson goes and he was back at practice and so he hasn't cleared the protocol yet. He was able to see if he goes then. You can consider maybe in twelve team leagues for a flex. Maybe a borderline forty play. Exact exactly cliff Johnson Andrew. Giora out I would consider Washington again of French started but yeah yeah no doubt but I mean you just can't really trust. Pass offense right now that last week so it makes me nervous. Say say if I I don't want to make light of the incident last weekend but the light the incident last Thursday between the browns and the steelers covered up the Mason Rudolph played on the poorest games. I've see from a quarterback all all season long. He is not good art. Mike before we get to a game preview like to hear about a way that you could potentially get tickets for this game if you are in the Houston area right now indeed. Did you ever traffic ticketing websites Excuse me make getting to the event difficult on purpose. Yes you do okay interesting well. It's as if they're so big they can get away with not not caring about the customer experience with millions of live event tickets and a price match guarantee seatgeek proves there's a better way search. 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All right we have as I mentioned a big game tonight It is the Texans hosting the colts. The over under here is forty five and a half point. The Texans are three and a half point favorites to begin on the Indie side. And we gave you a preview of all the injuries yesterday. We'll hit those again but before we do that to me. PERSET cracks our top ten for quarterbacks this week he has one top five performance. All season happened to come against the Texans. And did you know Jacoby percent in four game and I know the people don't always believed that quarterback wins or quarterback stat but in the four games the colts have had to Kobe percent as their starter against Texans therefore now in the other twenty two games that he has been their starter. They're seven and fifteen interesting little little fun fact for you right there on a need by the way percents. Also got the better of the Texans last year in the playoffs He had the game against Houston You know what was it week. Seven week seven against Yeah Week seven last year this year. I guess against the Texans four touchdown passes tweet feel confident like like where we really really starting percent over some of that we benching like Tom Brady or Dak Prescott against the Patriots or Carson Wentz. who was sort of been trolling later? We really going therefore which were set today. I think he's certainly in that conversation. I'd have no problem going. You know going with a guy like when or even Brady at home against Dallas. I you know I I'd be fine with that but I think percents said is right in that conversation. The good news is like you said he did beat up on Houston in that. I you know this is best fantasy game of the season but the only two top ten fantasy weeks. That's kind of a a little bit of a concern for sure but it does have to plus total touchdowns in six of his nine games this season as seventeen touchdowns and four interceptions that is a pretty darn good ratio for any quarterback and the matchup is good. Houston has not been able to stop quarterbacks. Not only in that game against Indianapolis in week seven but the whole season. Six most fantasy points either quarterbacks their top five in pass attempts completions passing yards and passing touchdowns against the only a five picks and they only twenty one sacks just across the board. A good matchup for quarterbacks all right so jacoby percent certainly on the streaming streaming radar if those who've roster for example Patrick Mahomes Colin Murray cousin. Who's been really good of late or if you don't like yourself and you've been using Philip rivers of lateness throw offy threw four interceptions this past Monday night now? The injury part because they're running backs conversation is sort of two pronged depending on what you know about Jordan Wilkins and who knows is more than star following your belt. Nobody would. He got poorest on Jordan. Wilkins well I'd already said yesterday that it was looking like he had a good chance to play and he followed that up with a full full participation Label in practice. Keep in mind again. These teams playing on a short week are not actually going through full practices. But the weight given to how how they're designated becomes very important because we have actually seen them out there. So Jordan Wilkins full participant. Frank Reich had already said that he expected Williams and Wilkins to share the bulk of the carries with Marlin Mac out. Okay so that's opens up sort of interesting can of worms here Jordan. Wilkins and Jonathan Williams expected to play a significant role here tonight. We've got a flip flop tear. I've got Jonathan Williams at the coal turning back. I'd feel more comfortable with Mike. You're on team Jordan Wilkins. A player likes his colleagues. I do like him a lot. In fact I kind of pulled this nugget up doing a little research on Wilkins us. Averaging five point eight yards per carry since entering the NFL among eighty two backs with at least sixty sixty five carries during that span. He's number to believe it or not. The only guy ahead of him is your guys defunding. Rahim Oeser is the only guy ahead of him in yards per carry so he has been ineffective also cut twenty of his twenty one targets as well so everything they've asked of him he's pretty much delivered other than taking on a workhorse role and look. I don't think he's going to get that here because he it didn't play last week and he's never been kind of in that role except for his his first two weeks in the. NFL has said that more than carries in week's game so I think he'll be limited in some capacity but twelve to fifteen touches. I could see that. I think he's a better player than Jonathan Williams. Who had the big game last week? Sure so tomorrow. mackney scored a touchdown. They Kinda beat up on that the defense but including last week Williams's forty five career carries and three catches right. He's kind of it between the tackles runner. They like to run. They'll probably try to use him in that capacity. I don't think he's GonNa catch catch passes to and also one other nugget here on this dynamic in this backfield the Texans defense allowed the ninth most fantasy points to running back so on the surface it seems like a good matchup right. Most of it is receiving though they've allowed the third fewest carries and the ninth fewest rushing yards and only three rushing touchdowns two running backs to the season. However they're number one in targets receptions and receiving yards allowed to running backs as well as four additional touchdowns eighty nine percent of balls thrown to running against him have been caught that is highest in the NFL? So maybe maybe it's him hide spot. Maybe Wilkins takes advantage of some of that. I just don't think Jonathan Williams is GonNa see many targets and that's why lean a little bit towards Wilkin all right. I'm waiting toward Jonathan Williams here tonight and I am going to go with the guts of what I read through Mike Wells. Who covers the colts for us here at Espn Nice piece about how Jonathan Williams Williams just continue to work hard turn out good runs quality runs? The colts couldn't quite find a spot for him in the rotation. Despite the fact they really like what they saw. Aw head coach Frank Reich. GM Chris Bauer lucky. All these runs. You produces encamping scout teams like skies. Good GonNa find a spot for him but we're good at running back otherwise to create a steady spot for them right now. My Lena's Jonathan Williams and he I mean he would naturally fit right into the macrolide right not catching many passes. And but MAC was underwhelming and fantasy for for the most part right. He was like a back end. Rb To wasn't catching passes wasn't getting the touchdown so and once prize me at all if he comes out and gets a fifteen carries but I'm just a maybe I'm maybe it's a little more whereas I'm here because I like Wilkins but we haven't ranked we have both these guys ranked. I think both players were those out of the top thirty anyways so like true. I don't think anybody here is pounding the table and I'm saying like you gotTa Start Them. It's more that like if I'm GonNa roll the dice. I'm rolling on Jonathan Williams you to a rolling it on Jordan Wilkins. So we'll see tonight. We'll be interesting as defined. You're laid out yesterday. There's a chance this is a multi week absence for Marlin Mac. We're GONNA learn something about how the colts few they're running back split and rotation as is things currently stand. Maybe the injury of the weekends to find you. Just in terms of sort of uncertainty going into the game to Hilton Hilton has missed. What three games right right now? And he went from a non participant in practice on Monday and Tuesday to maybe playing tonight. Yeah Full Participation yesterday and like I said these designations become more important. Because they're not actually practicing. They are working out t y Hilton like he said. Last week he was working out away from the team and ramping up his activity and there was optimism that this he had real shot to play today and a lot was dependent on what happened on Wednesday will. What happened on Wednesday was he did enough work to convince Vince? Them to label him a full participant after being listed as a non participant in every practice since his injury. So I think that Bodes Welford appearance for T. Y.. Hilton tonight obviously It will come down to an official game time decision. There not quite letting the cat out of the bag yet but again we talked about Jacoby percent having good game against Houston when they played in week. Seven t y six catches seventy four yards and a touchdown part of the reason that he had such a good game against the Texans. Jacoby percent wants to weighhill. Now they're t y Hilton wants to be out there they've just known with a calf injury that there's it's like the soft tissue injuries were. There's a risk get out on the field and you have a setback. Remember the beginning Frank Reich said this was he was told this was like a three to four week. Injury T. Y. Hilton that first week. What did you try to play? This was really everybody saying. Like we've gotta pull you back a little bit because if you try and do this you could really end up costing yourself the rest of the season so now. He's had that time he's had to prove to them that he's ready to go. Obviously there are no guarantees until you get out there and prove you can get through game without a setback but I think it. Looks like T. Y.. Hilton has a real good shot to play tonight okay. By that logic I would be playing. Not Why Hilton absent having really solid options ahead of him understanding that just because he starts. The game doesn't mean that he finishes the game. We'll have T. Y. Hilton We'll have an official update of around six fifty five eastern time. Maybe six forty five eastern time tonight. Keep an eye out for inactive so we don't have clarity prior at that time. If he doesn't play. How confident would you be? Mike Zach. Pascal Dart throw tonight not great and that's after he had maybe his best career game against this is team in the first matchup seven target six catches hundred and six yards in two touchdowns in that week seven meeting but look not y.. Hilton the past two weeks. And what does he delivered two catches for seventeen yards chew catches for twenty six yards no touchdowns thirteen targets this past two games. I mean it's hard not to rank him round in the top thirty five top forty because he is seeing being the target volume and we know this score touchdowns through the air not to mention. It's a pretty good match up against a defense line. The seventh most fantasy points receivers and fourteen touchdowns which is fourth most host. But I would try to say if I can because he has performed in a good situation the past to to to week so it's tough spot although maybe you go look. He had a really good game against against Houston when ty was out there and it has not done as well without ty out there. So maybe he's due for at least a decent game. If you have both receivers on the field I still. I feel fuel solely confident in one colts wide receiver if he plays tonight which is ty. Elton Pascal is out there and T. Y.. Hilton is not out there a lot of injuries. He's desperate lies and injuries etc Too tight ends to find you but one of them is banged up. Eric Ibran who saw plenty of targets this past week but now he's banged up right right and yesterday. I said that was looking good for him to play that they were arresting early. He too got full designation on the practice report for Wednesday. I expect Iran to play. Mike AAC squeaky wheel got the grease two weeks in a row or what. Yeah I mean. They've certainly increases usage writer. Jack Doyle did not have a target last week in fact it was What what's the number forty four? I think it was forty. F- Forty eight straight games. He had with the cats did Jack Llewellyn the unknown targets. Last week it was so bizarre. So bizarre indeed lead Brian. In that first meeting did score touchdown one of the few. He scored this season forecast to seventy yards but again he is a low floor. Five or fewer targets in nine of ten games hasn't scored a touchdown on since week seven. Only one touch on five end zone target. So he's not hitting that one either and how about the match against Titans Houston his face. The most tight end pass routes the season but have allowed the eleventh fewest receiving yards the fourth lowest yards target the second lowest catch rates so. This defense has been good against tight ends. It makes me nervous about Hebron and doyle as starters despite you. Bronze uptick in usage. The Texans have a lot cornerback struggles this year. Pretty solid at safety. They've been a nice job of piecing things together. 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Oh good let's talk about the Houston Easton Texans who again as we've stated are playing at home to Shawn Watson bit banged up with the ankle but he's a full participant in practice to find. You assured us yesterday and he d- he he will be fine. We all have them as a top five play this week. The hope is merely this. Do Not repeat what you did last week. When you are having some Jameis Winston type moments including that that one interception where you through across your body right into a linebacker of the Baltimore as we protect him? That's what I asked for protected but again. It's it's to Shawn Watson Watson if you have him. You're almost assuredly playing to Shawn Watson it gets more intriguing. I think if for the other players on this Houston offense. Carlos Hyde has been a really really fascinating player so far this year for the Texans he was acquired without much fanfare traded for Martinez. The price of a backup offensive Lineman who went to Kansas City. You remember that whole like was he gonNA disappear before when when did he come over in the trade it was Sousse attempt. I yeah yeah it was and so it was like well. Maybe he's not even going to do anything with the team. Late in the fourth preseason game guy was out out there with players that have practice squad aspirations at best instead he gets rid of the actually runs pretty effectively. He ranked second amongst running backs and percentage of Gary's gaining at least least five yards so far this season only behind Alvin Kamara. I think the issue here Mike is that you know first of all the priest out run defense second of all Carlos Hyde not much of a passing game thread. No question about it and you could kind of the things you just laid out. You can look at the first meeting in week. Seven twelve carries thirty five yards no touchdowns one target. Yeah no catches. I mean that might be roughly what you get here but look he has been pretty good. It's a great story. A lot of teams have given up on him and he's been very effective. This season had that forty one yard touchdown touchdown in kind of garbage time against Baltimore now four touchdowns this season. He had only nine carries in that game. That was a season low but he has fifty plus rushing yards in eight of ten games. This season season. So kind of tells you that he's delivered a pretty good high floor in terms of in that department but again he's only twenty ninth a running back and fantasy points because he's gone four consecutive -secutive games without a catch and has a total receiving line of six catches for twenty two yards this season quickly on the The Colts and seven fewest fantasy points. So running back their bottom seven in carries rushing yards rushing touchdowns allowed only three allowed. They're also last in Carey's our bottom seven carries inside the five. They have loud a a lot through the air. A lot of receiving production so including the fourth most reception. So maybe it's Duke Junior spot. Do Johnson Junior here spot. Perhaps but it's certainly not a good matchup super hiding again you know. He's not going to do much as a receiver so I'm with you a little bit of riskier. It makes me a fringe. Top twenty five players. I feel like actually both of the players and the Houston back about a fringe. benchtop twenty-five play because of the different strengths that they offer to that offense so deandre Hopkins is a player that you're starting every week and I understand he's had some disappointing moments homosexually averaging less than ten yards per catch. But he's still second in the NFL. Until two catches a touchdown. Production has not been where you expected it to be this season. So let's it's not Belabor the point about whether or not referred a number configuration that we can draw up here. Like what are your expectations. Deandre Hopkins Hopkins almost like a mini red zone here one hundred yards Yay or nay. I would say nay realized the under on this one. Yeah Okay Yeah. His usage has changed pretty drastically this season a lot. More targets near the line scrimmages averaged target is a Carrillo as yards per reception with hundred ten yards per. Catch this season catching a career. High seventy two percent of his targets. But he's like it almost going the direction of Larry Fitzgerald Right. Where like? Everything's kind of in the short areas. Not downfield he's never been good after the catch so I think the yardage numbers are down for a reason that you probably continue. Can you not to mention by the way is target. Share is down about seven or eight percentage points when all fuller place compared to when he's been out he's tar spike big time since fuller went down before that it was a lot lower even lower than last season. So that's another variable. That's in play tonight. I wonder if the lack of depth of targets is the offensive line. I understand they did make some upgrades at both tackle spots. But but hey one way to offset pressure is to get the football quickly contributes to butts to find you. I cut you off. No no I was agreeing with everything you're saying and I think that does give me some cause for concern especially since I think you're GonNa see willful or night but I think it's end zone. That's where I expect I if I was going to say if the Red Zone question was deandre Andre Hopkins touchdown tonight now. I'm going to say yes. I think he's been robbed of a couple in the end zone some place in Pi calls. That should have gone his way. Oh I don't recall. Perhaps you're familiar so I think I think the stats don't necessarily reflect some of that because those things don't get I mean obviously target wise. They do but I think he would have more fantasy point production if he had a couple of those scores back you just mentioned it was defiant as the next hour and talk about here is will fuller. You think thank you will play tonight. I think that will but I think will will play you know. We talked about how last week we were starting to get back involved in practice. But they weren't GonNa play knowing that they had a game four days later this would probably be his debut. It's nice starts off a series of home games. Good when you get injured players out awhile to be at home not dealing the travel double issues. barring some surprise setback between now and kickoff I expect will fuller to rejoin the team tonight. Mike what's the value here to say. No no risk it. No risky proposition. What do you think? I'm starting him if he's if he's there. Yeah I mean If you look back at the first meeting so With the colts stayed in the coach almost never overshadow the perimeter corner plays great deceive appear desire shadow. De'andre Hopkins scored a touchdown when over one hundred yards in that first meeting but we'll fuller was being shadowed auto by Rock Yasin pronounce it. Yes in in the first couple of places got hurt immediately Kenney still stepped in for him you send shadowed him stills finished with five targets for catches one hundred and five yards it was able to hit a few big place so the match ups should be good because the coulter again if struggling permanent are good in the slot. Not so good in the perimeter and fuller's lers last two full games. His target totals ten and sixteen. Pretty good I mean as usages really increased areas You know he had a huge game in week five. We know what he could bring to the table able if I have I'm GONNA fire him up so you guys know. How Matthew does that thing all the time? where it's like of cour- someone is playing against me So actually I should really steal that bit. Because it's defined can attest to because she has willfuller on her warmly spink that week where he had fifty three point seven points I was playing against my I teams which has the most points in the league by far this year and I told the site so like I am not play against will fuller which actually means bad things for him but I have no choice. My team has been decimated and I paint David. Johnson's one may starting running back. So that just tells you where my season went in a hurry to do but another thing he did. But so I'm happy that will fuller back. I mean let's go but I bought so I'm playing matthew this week in the warm league so just again. I'm playing Matthew and as of right now at least starting both Jordan Wilkins and the text of the colts defense. So if you have other those players maybe I should rethink my Jonathan Williams versus Jordan. Wilkins I'M GONNA TRY TO INFLICT Inter Matthew as much as possible during this upcoming weekend so the colts traveled to Houston. Texans Lot to play for the colts with take this game going with Watson led Houston Texans. I got them winning this game. I don't have underscore because I'm not Mike Clay. What are you have Mike? I'm close to the line here although I am more points than the line which is forty five and a half. I'm at Texans. Twenty seven twenty four so tight when you love it I think it's GonNa NBA. Close game. Like I am really looking forward to. This is Thursday night and everybody complains about this but I think for me I like these ones where the guys come back who've been hurt. I watch how they did t White Hilton back on one side. We'll back on the other side thing. It's GonNa be fun to watch. What say you WANNA pick her? No Oh you bet I wanNA pick I am taking my they like to see you so good. That's that's a six. Yeah that's a six letter. Swear Jar Mike and I need you to put money where he just dropped the word. The beaver sleeps in okay. Is that Italy. Lord yes that is. That is a swear Mike Mike. Mike goes on daily wage or four four times a week every day who drinks a propel propel water expensive. He drinks at least one a day. Yeah show on one eighty today. He's propel cost him. I can't even imagine but as an account of it to my brain knows exactly. How much down consent can't documents? Yeah I'M GONNA take the Houston Texans because there's no way to Shawn Watson it's GonNa lose two games in a row especially coming off of that bad bad loss to the Ravens. Oh Man. I'm really tempted. The colts now. But I will stick with the Texans which I think gives us a clean sweep here and time now for our wide receiver cornerback matchups of course Mike Mike. Clay does that but before we get to that before we do that before we get to. Mike lays incredible work. I'm eating credible. which involves all kinds of great insight insight? Quick Break Churn turn. I accidentally played the whole song rather than just a short job. Oh my gosh turn your microphone on. Have you ever been in a student of roll your microphone. Yeah in weekly. The case serves. There's only why Jennifer feels. I am I right not my right yes oh run in place really array water-pouring. That's right thank you not cookies as Daniel gets it. I'm not sure field seen it. It was an arl the R. R. rated PG they didn't have pg thirteen back wow they didn't have. PG Thirteen right. We walked both both ways uphill to school the NFL theater movies GonNa Actually. It wasn't it wasn't a movie it was actually alive. Acted out little local stagecoach when everyone the town gathered around as the train came in. And you guys did this thing. That's what you're doing. Yeah Yeah He. He needed all right. Mike thanks quarterback match ups we again in Tampa Bay or just against Tampa Bay because Calvin Ridley and not. Julio Jones but Russell gauge benefit this weekend for the Atlanta Falcons. Yeah all three of these guys we love them all against Carlton Davis who has struggled as the number one corner for the buck. Sean Murphy Bunting as a rookie. You struggled on the other side. And they're having so much trouble. We'll add in the slot. That now they have earned it hargraves. They traded him away. They tried some other guys in. There hasn't worked out. They use a guy. That's been playing mostly safety Mike Edwards another rookie. Who is now in the slot at this season? They've struggled all across the board. Most fantasy points allowed to receivers this season over the past eight weeks over the past month as well. A lot of the most fantasy points to the perimeter of the past eight weeks and the past month. You're going to see Julio Jones and Calvin really on the outside Davis Murphy abundant. You'RE GONNA see gage inside ride against Mike Edwards in this one The bucks by the way also most fantasy points out of the salt which is where gauges. So he's asleep Er- and Ridley lineups and a little bit of a conversation surrounding Ridley only yesterday Russell Gays. What an intriguing sleeper name he has played well for the Falcons? Since the trade of Muhammad's annuity almo score last week. Yeah almost had a gourd really interesting interesting player to monitor for the rest of the season. Because the Falcons found some mo jo all right Allen Robinson over the past couple of weeks is really struggling as a matter of fact over the past four weeks. He's wide receiver sixty one on a per game basis Mike. This guy's way too talented to be that low in the rankings. But perhaps nothing can cure his ails quite like the giants secondary. At least one of those was expected that was last week we featured him in this segment and said that he was GonNa Face Jalen Ramsey This was going to be his toughest match of the season and would probably won't be one of his worst games this season so that was not a surprise. Should be the opposite this week against the giants. The Andre Baker the rookie Corn Corey Valentine in the slot engineer. Stains Jenkins on the other side. The giants the second most fantasy points wide receivers this season. He's going to see an equal share of all. These guys actually see Jenkins the the the least in this one and Jenkins started poorly when Adam shadowing the first month. He's been a little better since that. Just playing his side but again away from him. Baker and Valentine have really struggled if you look at Baker side of the field China the most fantasy points to that side over the past month and as for the the seventh most fantasy points over the past month again robinsons all over the field. It's just we're upgrading him. Across the board. It should be get right game. No matter who plays quarterback you have to like Alan Robinson's chances on Sunday. Let's go over to the minus match Gotcha and We've got some players in the same game. That are facing very difficult quarterbacks. And we start with Portland Sutton who I believe has emerged as a real star for the broncos. This season Mike. I know they're passing offense. It's not particularly prolific given the quarterback play but might be a week to actually fade. Portland's gone that far far we just telling you to be careful with what you expect out of him this weekend. Yeah I think we're going to downgrade but I have him on quite a few roses are probably keep them in my life. I think he's been too good to put on my bench completely clearly but it could be it could be just like Robinson last week. You could be a bus Kinda game here against her devious white. Who by the way? I've taken some heat from bills. Fans do not crack my top twenty five players under twenty five views an honorable mention. I still love the guy. I've talked a lot about them the past few years. You can't fit everybody in there. But he's still a very talented corner and he started shadowing over the past month. He did not shadow during weeks. One eight but Terry McLaren Odell Beckham Junior devante parker shattered all three of those guys over the past few weeks we park a pretty good game against him at happens. Even the best corners corners metairie McLaren yelled at four thirty nine and Beckham held to five for fifty seven on twelve targets a few weeks ago so he's been effective. This season Sutton is on the perimeter. Eighty two percent percent of the time. So it's not like he's going to be in the slot much and get away from whites coverage who doesn't play in the slaught- he's GonNa see him a lot in this game and the bills defense even if he wasn't being shattered it's stop. I mean think about this bills defensive. Only had four touchdown catches too wide receivers this season in ten games. They've also allowed forty three passing touchdowns in forty two games under Sean McDermott airmont. That's incredible. That's easily fewer than the NFL. McDermott scheme just is outstanding in shuts down Passing Games he is quite the eliminator. Two opposing passing games. How about John Brown? Same game other side of the ball. Mike and by the way a note from Kyle warrener's thirty seven points on this game so certain expecting a ton of offense. John Brown has has been really consistent this year at least fifty yards receiving in every single game. Do you think he draws Chris. Brown showed Chris Harris Shadow treatment. And so is that enough to break the streak of fifty plus yards in a game. I think he has a shot to get to fifty F.. I'm assuming in projected a little over that but it is a very tough match up so I would I would definitely consider the fact that a step back is probably coming. Not only for John Brown down the stretch here but for the bills. And for the bill's passing game they had one one of the easiest the easiest schedule in the NFL through eleven weeks they have one of the hardest. The rest of the way that especially applies fantasy and to their passing game so Willie draw Chris Harris who showed so far this season Allen Robinson Davante Adams Keenan Allen tyreek Hill. Ty He'll Noel Beckham and most recently Stefan dig. So that's yes I mean. He's clearly there number one perimeter Wide Receiver I'll be shocked if Harrison chasing around Harris has not been targeted. This is only thirteen percent of his covered snaps. The ball has has gone his direction. That is a very low number broncos also allowing the fourth fewest fantasy points wide receivers this season by the way if you're thinking well if he were downgrading here maybe Cole Beasley gets a few more targets. I would stay away. Their third fewest fantasy points to the slot for Denver. This season maybe isiah McKenzie is a deep sleep or maybe for playing like when one of them. DFS Afs Thursday only tournaments. Maybe it's gotTa throw a dart at maybe catches a cease a few weeks. He's actually been out targeting Cole Beasley. So we'll anyone Sunday all the same to defensive-minded minded teams that should limit limit opposing offenses In a way that might yield less than thirty seven points. The game is being played in Buffalo. Where they're expecting expecting a snow shower in the morning but the game should be clear by the time they kick off at one? PM Eastern time might little piece of advice for you. Stop reading the comments on the articles. It's not worth it's not worth your time. Might comments on the article okay. It's social media. Okay we'll stop twitter notifications as well. Mike came hire Mike Lee. NFL good follow on twitter. The social questions in for a second but I did you guys know. Hiring could be a challenge. 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I'M GONNA go right to IBM Watson who tells me that. Ronald Jones has boomed five times. This season to Parker's three such games in his odds that meaning Jones of booming this weekend or ten percentage points higher than Devante Parker that Ronald Jones over devante Parker. I'm GonNa go Jones as well because they're playing Atlanta fourth most fantasy points to running back so I think it's a good match up. I think he gets back on track after a rough week. Eleven by the way. I do like Devante. Parker Parker has been incredible since week. Six right then resurrected. Yeah we thought for sure like ninety nine point nine percent chance. He was gone for Miami. They changed coaches. They resigned him and he's having a species got a two year contract. Only take five four years. The rare allusively wide receivers out of breakout. Kudos gradulate devante Parker worker. Because I have another question about Devante Parker here for you from Scott Scott says. I've clinched a playoff. Berth and Devante Parker is still available on the wire. Like lucky him. I've I've lost face and David Johnson and Jews shooter. Which one should I drop to pick up Parker? I think I would drop misuse. Or and here's the reason. Why David Johnson the Doghouse? Okay House right now serious doghouse right but both players are probably not going to be available this weekend. Johnson's on a by and Juju as we talked about earlier on the show not likely to play against the bengals. One injury away from David Johnson having to be the focal point of that cardinals running game again. I'm not sure no matter what happens if Juju who's already been the focal one of the passing game can elevate his value that much I will be dropping Juju. Same Rationale is that they've cardinals could find themselves in a position of having to use David Johnson even even if they're determined not to do it now if you're talking about fancy playoffs potential. That's still few weeks way so yeah might consider. I agree with that. I think that it may depend on my roster to so if I think listen. I'm bad at receiver. I'm going to have to start Ju- when he's back. That might change my mind but I'll say this we call him. That comes out or I should say we we do on Saturday mornings riots. NFL reporters one question about fantasy. And just a little preview of that piece astros wine covers the cardinals for us. If Kenyan drake after the Bible remained gene clear lead back head of David Johnson in his first four words of his answer were yes without a doubt. I mean telling for Johnson's value going forward. What happened yes without without a doubt until something happens to Kenyan drake there he said no I? No I'm saying no pressure no pressure no. I'm not this mess found against him. That's just saying that and cliff. Kingsbury can be all about Kenyan drake but if something happens to him no question. It's not like they're going to overlook the fact that got David Johnson. There to train wants to know is is David Nwachukwu worth a roster spot for those unfamiliar. David Joke. Who has to be a heat rehabilitated from I r but he now must miss two more? We've before we can actually play so that means I said he was. I thought he was So I thought he was eligible. Because I think what. You're I think what happened with the browns. was he it to miss a minimum of eight games right. I guess technically he has missed eight games. He was put on Ir. They're talking and playing this week. Is You know he's activated. He has to be putting this my sorry. Let's clear this up pre-set the NFL has rule where you can be designated a short term. I are player. You must miss a minimum of six weeks of practice and a minimum of eight games before you can play Giokoo was placed on. I are more than six weeks ago after we do more than eight weeks ago. So yes he is now eligible to play. That's my apologies for the confusion. There he has been designated the return. Now the team must activate into the roster west Saturday. which would require them? Cutting somebody else or putting somebody on I are. They may have already had the spot. Because 'cause they put Morgan Burnett on I r yesterday so that could be the easy way for new job to get back on the field worth roster spot. Yeah the Radovan. It was pretty effective early on in the season scored a touchdown in week. One went down early and week to we expected a big season. Perhaps a breakout third season. And it's GonNa be a tough start this week but I'll tell you what when if you don't have one of them. Top eight tight ends may be Gerald ever counts too as the ninth but after that I mean it is a total toss up and perhaps joke who could jump into that conversation tation when you'd be surprised at all if he's a top six or seven tight end going forward. I wanted to schedules much easier for Cleveland at you. Know I I definitely in leagues where I'm needy at tight end. I scoop scooped him up and you know I think you should be on rosters. I think he could be a tight on one going forward. I sure hope so. Just all right biased. Ashtec the Hashtag analysis not even a little bit last question here comes from altemus insist. Should I start. reliving my childhood with X.. Men or boy meets world I on Disney plus. Yes yes good answer there Mike. I'm GONNA go boom. It's world I was sucker for so many parts of that show obviously grew up every loved the Panga grownup right. Well no not. Everybody grew up with two Panga but I will say I had true story adamant who calls every sport on our network on our air when we you were in Chicago Having dinner one night and in walks the whole cast of boy meets world and I didn't have a clue was he's like Oh my God oh my God he became. So wasn't my Eric Von. Yeah crush go to school. She used to love me. That's why she's always. I was asking Matthew. You can get a number that all as long as backup anyway. They were lovely. They were all lovely ended up going over because Adam was like. I don't WanNa be that guy but I'm going it'd be that guy like he wanted to go over and they were all nice. They took a picture and They were lovely. They're just sometimes. It's nice to know that those people people are nice to know no question But the off seasons coming so you can watch both of these things I guess I would probably start with boy meets world but my off season plan is actually to roll wall to watch all of the marvel movies. I haven't I've seen them here or there. I've never sat down and watched them straight through. I missed a lot of them. I understand one of our colleagues in one of those movies or the end. I'm not discuss compelled appearance. I think it is. I think it's him so rece Davis it must've been reese Davis. Yeah Yeah so anyway. That's my plan for the offseason. Okay for everybody wants speaking Matthews in his high school highlights fitted me one. 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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 266: Jamal Adams and the Legion of Gloom

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast

1:25:08 hr | 10 months ago

GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 266: Jamal Adams and the Legion of Gloom

"Golden state media concepts fantasy football podcast is your one stop shop for fantasy football news and advice decided who to draft first round, cowing Gaga, and how a lot of your team got you covered traditionally dynasty of leaks. He arly IDP. Even daily Fantasy Football Djilas. We break down all the questions of fantasy football. It's the golden state media concepts fantasy football podcast. And welcome in to the GMC, fantasy football podcast brought to you by the. PODCAST network I. Am Your Host Esp Brandon soder Penner and man. Do we have a packed show for you guys today? I'm very excited to dive into this. GonNa Start you off with the five burning questions for today's episode right after that going to get into the wide receiver previews for both the AFC and NFC south, and then I'm going round everything off today with my top ten late round PP targets these guys that for specifically your PR, League, you're going to be able to get after pick number two hundred and are still going to be able to either contribute value week in and week out or are solid. Enough lottery tickets to where you need to be picking them somewhere late in your draft. Now guys if I sound a little more excited than usual. It's because I am so if you follow me on twitter, you already know where this is going, but as you all know. Couple episodes ago I, had to miss one of the postings because I said I had a family emergency to attend to which was true. It was something that we weren't necessarily expecting to happen. Given the circumstances. However, I am thrilled to announce that me and my wife amber are now expecting our first child. We got married back in November and again it's Kinda came as a surprise, but we were kind of the attitude of whatever happens happens and. We don't know anything about the gender or anything like that yet, but we're expecting our first child to arrive sometime in February of this year so and I'm very ecstatic. Very excited to to be a dad, and I'm just I'm blessed that at this point in my life that I've got an amazing wife to come home to everyday a supportive wife to come home to, and then now our first child. At the beginning of next year. So I'm very excited. Guys I'm glad I finally got to announce it with you all. We're waiting to make sure that everything was OK. Before we started making things public, but yeah, so enough about that guys. Let's go ahead and start talking football. They know that's why you're all here before we get into the fantasy questions for today's episode, couple pieces of news did come down over the last couple of days. The biggest of which is the Jamal Adams Shred Jamal Adams the disgruntled Jet Safety, arguably a top three safety in the League finally got his wish and got moved out of New York. So, what's even crazier than Adams leaving which I think we all starting to expect a little bit? It was the hall that the jets were able to get back for him. Now before I dive into this Jamal, Adams had no levers here. The jets had no leverage. Everybody knew that Adams wanted out, and they needed to dump him he if he played this year New York he was gonna make things miserable for everybody that all being said. This is what they were still able to get. This is all according to Adam Schefter of ESPN. The jets are sending Jamal Adams and twenty twenty two fourth rounder in exchange for Bradley McDougal. WHO's a backup safety in Seattle a first round pick in two thousand. Thousand Twenty, one, a third round, pick and twenty, twenty one and a first round pick in two thousand twenty two Jamal atoms just commanded two first rounders, and at this point they haven't even put in a structure to resign at least at the time that I am recording this podcast. The seahawks aren't even guaranteed to keep him long term so as frustrating as it is. I'm sure as a jets fan to see good players constantly getting booted out the door while they're still under contract men. You guys got a freaking steel here. and. I'M GONNA die of more into fantasy impact of this trade in a few questions here, but obviously had to get that piece of news out Jamal Adams now a member of the Seattle seahawks other piece of fantasy news, and this could be huge guys. We're waiting on confirmation. And I'm waiting to get excited until after I. Actually see him show up, but there are reports surfacing that Delvin Cook. The Minnesota, running back, who was thought to be holding out for a new contract? is expected to show up to training camp now. If you've been listening to the show, you know that me along with other fantasy experts have been very hesitant when it comes to ranking Galvin Cook high because we weren't sure if he was going to show up for the season or if he was going to miss. A significant amount of games while he was holding out for this contract, but if he shows up to training camp that signifies that he is going to play the season that the hold out is at least going to end temporarily, or that deal is getting put together whatever the case may be if he's in training, camp is a great sign for fantasy owners, and then you can comfortably picked Alvin Cook somewhere in your top six running backs at. At that point depending on how you feel about him, but he is a definite top guy. As long he's on the field. The only reason I have been fading him is because of this contract situation so again, potentially very exciting news for fantasy owners already drafted. Galvin Cook while this craziness going on, you might have snuck him out at a much later pick than he is really worth because the situation so congratulations if you fall into that category. All right so with our news out of the way without further ado. It is the five burning fantasy questions for today's episode. Now as always guys, we would love to get your fantasy questions to answer as you start getting. Your drafts fired up. What do you need to know to be successful going in to the twenty twenty NFL season? Let us know guys. You can find the show at. Underscore F- football that's on twitter, and then you can also find my personal twitter page at la machine seventeen. At L. A. Machine one seven, and it's fantasy questions, guys. We also like some of the off the wall. One hit one of those every episode. If you want to know what the best brand potato is. If you want me to bring my baby names, whatever it is guys I'm willing to dive into it for you again. Find us at GS. Mc Underscore F- football and at la machine seventeen simply just mentioned a a comment DM directly. Let us know what your fantasy questions are. All right I had a different number one, but since I just talked about it. I'm going to skip ahead a little bit here, so it was originally my fourth question, but number one in how far does your ranking for defenses? Go now that Jamal? Adams is a member of the Seattle seahawks. And I'm here to tell you guys. It doesn't move at all right all right there. The defense is already sitting at about eighteen. They weren't great. Yes, Jamal, Adams top tier safety in the League guys. This defense is not good. It's him. Bobby Wagner, and everybody else right, and on top of that. Their strength of schedule is absolutely atrocious rate. You might be able to stream a couple times. They play Washington, but outside of that listen to this conference schedule. They're playing Atlanta Dallas and Minnesota. Minnesota two of those have incredibly high powered passing offenses, then Minnesota will also be able to put points up on you, and then just within the division. They've got to play Los. Angeles Arizona and the forty niners twice. Those are all dangerous offenses. This division as a whole has been getting better year in and year out, and the defense is going to be a real Achilles heel, even though they added Jamal Adams he's only going to be able to have so much of an impact. And I see the score getting run up on Seattle quite a bit this year. They're going to be able to hang in gains because their offense. Is that good? They have Russell Wilson but from a defensive fantasy perspective. That's going to kill you now. The good news is since they are going to be throwing a lot. You guys like Russell Wilson. Tyler Lockett decay metcalf. They're going to get plenty of work for you. And subsequently they're also going to have fantastic fans value. Value Because of that so I'm not sold on the Seattle seahawks defense I'm really not sold on him as a team. As a whole I've seen people bounce around the idea that especially with the addition of atoms they're super bowl contenders, but that division is just way too tough this year, even with that additional spot, it's going to be very difficult to make the playoffs them in two thousand twenty, so enough of the seahawks. I'm going to jump to my original question now. So there's two big name tight ends right now in Philadelphia and that Zach Ertz and that's Dallas. Goddard and the question here is which one do you want to targeting in your dynasty drafts? And I'm here to tell you I think I. brought it up once or twice I'm not incredibly high on. Zach, Ertz this year. So just looking back a year ago, even though his fantasy numbers were really good, he was not efficient in the slightest guys. He was targeted one hundred and thirty five times, and only holding eighty eight of those passes. And that's with Carson, wentz right on top of that watching these two guys next to each other I, think God is the more talented tight end right now. The reason that keeps putting up numbers is just because of his pure volume hogging. However I think God. It's GonNa. Take over this job sooner than people realize. I think it's earth's job for the majority of this year. God's GonNa cut into it a little bit, but I wouldn't be holy surprised if got her was the starting tight in there in two thousand twenty one. Erz is on the last year of his deal, and considering the production that he's had over the last five or six seasons. He's going to command a lot of money and I. Don't know if that's necessarily something that Philadelphia is going to want to invest in eight thirty year old player especially when they have got it already in the wings for them. And just one last thing I mentioned the volume. The volume's not going to quite be there this year. The Philadelphia had all kinds of injuries with their wide receivers last year. They have a couple of guys starting the season in Jalen Rigor, distraught Jackson that are going to command some of those targets so one hundred and thirty five targets. That's GONNA come down and I think subsequently his fantasy. Fantasy production is GONNA, come down as well so I'm fading him pretty hard already in standard and again when it comes to dynasty I'm considering taking Dallas scattered over him especially. If I'm in the mindset of winning over the next three years, and not just going into dynasty to try to win right away, so giving Dallas, Goddard in dynasty drafts right now. Zakar, it's the number four tight end. Man That's it's rich the problem with the tight ends this year. Is You really have three guys at the top and then I see a pretty significant drop off with everybody else so unless you're getting a Travis Kelsey George Kendall or Mark Andrews I. Think you're much better off just waiting and snagging a tight end that you like much later on in the draft, because guys like Earth's and Evan Ingram and Rob Gronkowski are just going to be woefully overdrafted this year. Right now speaking of drafts, this was an interesting question. Where is your favorite spot to draft? So what I mean by that? is you go into your fantasy snake style draft? You'd like to have the first pick and then when you come back around. You're not picking Ford Twenty three spots later. Do you like to pick somewhere in the middle and have a balanced team? I feel like I'm. In the minority here. I actually like attorneys I. Like having that twelve pick which then of course get you the thirteenth as well. There's just something about that security of knowing that you're going to be able to nab two guys in a row, and you're not really thinking about getting snipe nearly as much because then you have this large period of time before your next cluster picks where again then you get two guys in a row again being able to snag a couple of solid running backs in round, one round, two or a solid, running back and one of the. The top three wide receivers. There's just a lot of the still going to be available for you. There and you're GONNA have a lot more control now. A couple of the other physicians like having the number one pick great but one. You've got a lot of pressure on you to where you have to pick the best guy for the year, which a lot of people were taking Christian McCaffrey and if you are to take him and. And like if what I've been saying comes true, and he doesn't play for a lot of the season. Then you're gonNA. Look really bad, and the rest of your team is going to suffer because you're not going to have another pick four twenty three picks right. You've got the top guy and then you're going to be getting a lot of leftovers. When the draft finally falls back to you, I even had rather even have like the. The second or third option, honestly, because then the draft is falling to you a little bit, and you don't have that pressure of taking the top guy, but I love the turn. A lot of people don't because a lot of good players are coming off the board already, but man just having twelve and thirteen and being able to cluster your picks throughout the rest of the draft, very huge fan of that definitely, my preferred drafting spot. Now number three. Actually I guess this would be number four guys. I'm so sorry I forgot that I get ahead a little bit here. So this is the fourth fantasy question for today, and that's which backup running backs can produce as more than handcuffs so when I'm talking about this. I'm not talking about receiving backs. They kind of have a role out forum. Guys like to Rico and James White more of like the traditional running backs, and even though they are clearly not the starter can still have some solid fantasy value for you. So I've listened out my top three and honorable mention I. Have Tony Pollard now? His ADP is one thirty five, so he's not being drafted as an everyday starter for the most part, but I have heard plenty of experts talked about the fact that he has ability to produce on his own that he had a roll cut out form the offense last year and Mike McCarthy is a a head coach that likes to utilize more than one running back. But looking at the roster and twenty twenty with Zeke in front of him, and now aid a wider seaver core with three very talented guys I, don't think the running back. Touches are going to be nearly as available as people seem to think, and all the ones that are available are going to go right to Elliott. So into the top three. My number three guy is going to be JK. Dobbins his ADP sitting around ninety nine right now. And he'd be higher on this list if Mark Ingram didn't at least have a little bit left in the tank. Good enough to where he's going to fend off. Dobbins for the majority of the year, I think by the end of the year jk Dobbins is going to take over, but that will limit his fantasy value as a whole. He might be someone that you are going to use a lot. When the fantasy playoffs come around, but he doesn't get higher up the list. Just because it's going to be a while before you see him, get work. Horseback touches number two Latavius, Murray they seem to. To utilize Murray a lot like they do Alvin. Kamara, using the passing game, and he is a solid running back, so not only is he a threat to take over if Alvin Kamara is to be injured, but it seems like they've already written him into the game plan quite a bit, so he his value skyrockets. If Kamara goes down, but at ADP one twelve I think he's a guy that you can set at the end of your flex, or if you've got like a deeper league. Can still produce for you every week and the number one guys. It's Kareem Hunt. You've heard me talk about him already. He is a great red zone presence, and the more I looked into it nick chop really. Isn't that greater on the Red Zone? He gets the majority of his points in the open field, and when he does score, it's from further. Further out or when you're talking about touches on the five yard line or closer, Kareem, hunt is incredibly efficient for running back, so he's going to get plenty of goal line touches, and he's going to be utilized in the passing game as well Kareem. Hunt will be used all over the field, and that drags NIP. Nick chubs valued down quite a bit. And it's GONNA shoot hunts up to the point where he could realistically finish as a top twenty running back in the two thousand twenty season. So just incredible value especially for a backup. Guys in the last question you know the last one is always a little more off the wall last episode I gave you. My predictions from the Major League baseball season is that has officially finally opened up so this episode I figured it was time to give my NBA predictions NBA finally tips off on Thursday July thirtieth. So this will be my last podcast before everything gets underway. So I'm going to do with the same way I, did baseball I'm going to start with the teams that will make the playoffs in the east and the West. West. This was a little bit easier for the NBA since they already have the the bubble deal going on, there's only so many teams that can make the playoffs at this point and I don't think there's going to be a ton of shakeup. The extra teams that they invited a lot of them are just a little bit too far out to really make an impact, so here's what I've got right now. In the east, no surprise, the bucks are going to get the top seed, and then in order going from two to eight it's. It's going to be the raptors. The Boston Celtics Miami Heat Philadelphia Seventy sixers. The Indiana Pacers who did drop spot just because I'm not sure about Victor Oladipo. We know he's going to play in the playoffs now, but he may not play in any of the Games before that, so I think they drop a spot or two, and then the magic and the nets. You got the wizards in there, too. They're just too far back and even if they do get into that play in game that they were talking about I really don't see them. Them having enough talent to to make a lotta noise there, then over in the West again, not a lot of surprises here number one Lakers Denver Nuggets Los Angeles Clippers Utah Jazz. Houston Rockets Dallas Mavericks the Grizzlies who I like a lot going forward Ajami, rant seems like he's going to be an absolute stud, and then the thunder now despite their best efforts don't think Zairian and the New Orleans Pelicans are GonNa have quite enough to shoot themselves up into the playoffs, so not going to go into each individual playoff matchup. Think the finals. It's finally Janas year out of the east. He doesn't have any one of significant note in his way. The rappers are still a good team. The Celtics have talent, but there's just not enough there to slow down the honest. He's slowly taking over that crown as the best player in the League, you might see him. Take that within a year or two now, so love the bucks out of the East, and then in the West, guys, you talk about having veterans on a team that are going to be able to pull through even with something crazy happening corona and the bubble restart. It's the Lakers right Lebron. James. He's been there done that. This is just another year for him, so I think he quite easily gets his team into the finals. Clippers are going to put up a fight in the the western. Conference finals, but When all is said and done Bucks Lakers. Have the experience they have Lebron James. Bucks have a lot of youth. They've got good pieces, but it's not going to be enough to take down the. And I see the Lakers taking this in five Lebron, James Walks Away with his fourth NBA Championship so there you have it, guys. Those are the five burning questions for today's episode. Remember stick around for the end today as I give you my top ten late round, PR targets, and when we come back, we will dive into the AFC NFC south wide receiver rooms. You are listening to the GMC fantasy football podcast. We'll be right back. Are you looking for the very best. In College football podcast. Then check out GSM. See Football podcast. Get the latest football news both on and off the field from the NFL draft treats to the rumor mill to the NFL combines. They got you covered. That's GMC PODCAST DOT COM back slash football dash podcast. GET UPDATES I'm college. Rivalries kindy insights, and much much more. It's football. Talk the way you want it. This show eat sleeps and breathes football. Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visits. Yes, MC PODCASTS DOT COM for more INFO. And welcome back to the DSM. See Fantasy football podcast I. Am your host be S., P. Brandon soder penner last segment covered the Jamal Adams trade that shook the league over these last couple of days as he heads out to Seattle, and then of course answered your five burning fantasy questions for today's episode. So moving on it's time to continue with our wide receiver preview series last week went over the NFC AFC. Course already covered the north divisions for you and then this week GonNa tackle the NFC and AFC south. I am going to do the slightly different. If you've been paying attention I typically do the NFC divisions first, and then the second segment will then dive into the AFC. However when I looked at this guy's the NFC south. Is probably my favorite division when it comes to wide receivers, and it should be yours as well. I mean names just right off the bat. You've got Julio Jones Michael Thomas. Mike Evans Chris when Dj more. There's a lot of great things dive into so I really want to save that for the second segment so this time around going to start you off with the AFC. All right, so let's go starting off with the Tennessee. Titans, so guys, the titans, their number, one guy from last year's AJ Brown. He's going somewhere in the mid teens right now for wider versus ADP sitting in the thirties, so the reason that Brown is this high. He had a great rookie season last year for starters, but we really saw him take on a larger role. Role. When Ryan Tannehill took over that starting quarterback job, he has been a favourite favorite up tannahill from the beginning, and I think a lot of this actually comes from training, camp and practices when Marcus Mariota was still the Starter Rattana Hill an AG Brown. We're taking a lot of snap together on that second team, and they really were able to develop a good chemistry. The rip so just to give you an idea of how Brown last year one thousand fifty one yards had eighty four targets in eight touchdowns, which is crazy efficiency. You might be due for a little bit of touchdown regression, but I think you could also counteract that a little bit with tannehill playing the entire year, but we know they're going to like to link up quite a bit and what makes these numbers even more impressive is again. Jebron was a rookie in two thousand nineteen. It generally takes a long time for rookies to develop especially when they're not. Put right in we high volume spot right away for example I always go back to Jalen rigor this year with the eagles. He's got potential to be the number. One Guy Right off the bat in an offense. It's going to love to throw the ball a lot so I can see him having numbers like this, but with AJ Brown in. Tennessee they were not a pass happy team last year. They were very balanced. They love to run the ball with Derrick. Henry and Tannahill, despite his great efficiency numbers was still not blowing the doors off of anybody with his statistics so long story Short Brown was one of the most efficient wide receivers in the league last year. Year as a rookie, which is crazy, now do I think the efficiency is GonNa completely hold up now eighty four targets eight touchdowns. I can see the touchdown numbers going up again with Tannehill staying longer, but it'll be on more targets. It's not going to be crazy efficient, but I think it's also going to lead to him being a better overall fantasy prospect for you this year Tanta. His shown us no reason to think that he's going to miss time. He had one season where he's really dealing with a lot of injuries in Miami before they ship them out so that said the biggest danger to AJ Brown's value is Brian Hills potential to regress in twenty twenty. Brown Tannehill was incredibly efficient last year. I understand why people think he's going to take a step back because he hasn't been a world beater. He hasn't been great quarterback really since he came into the League. However when you look at the mess. That was the Miami Dolphins while Tannahill was still there with Adam gays running the show. I'm not that surprised that he wasn't being played out to his full potential, so while he's never going to be a top five quarterback, I think with the way that the titans have built their system. He is a great fit for them long term and I'm not incredibly worried about him regressing. Yes, he's not going to put up crazy numbers, but he's not going to have to. For Aj Brown to be able to retain his value now the titans are. Are also going to be run heavy this year, but again they run heavy last year, and he was still able to produce his rookie, so I do like Aj, Brown I think wide receiver. Twelve is about where he needs to be I. don't see him having crazy upside, but I don't see him having a huge chance to bottom out, either. He's a solid floor pick with a kind of a limited ceiling, but he's someone that can definitely help you. Week to week so now that leads us to the guy on the other side of Brown. That's going to be Corey Davis who went in two, thousand, nine, hundred as the presume number one receiver in Tennessee he sitting all the way it wide receiver seventy his. ADP is a solid hundred and forty spots lower than AJ Brown now. I get it. He's the second option on a team that's not going to pass the ball a ton, but let's not forget guys. Coach Mike rebel. Just last season said that Davis was the most talented receiver that they had, and that was with Aj Brown on the roster. I believe him when he says that and I believe they're still going to find a way to utilize him now again. It's not going to be world. Breaking sky has yet to really break out. He's had. Had three years to make statement in the NFL and hasn't been able to seize the opportunity, and we saw him get outshined by Brown in two thousand nineteen I. Don't see this as a situation where he has the potential to take the the number one spot, however at ADP one nine five I'm willing to take a risk on almost any wide receiver to in the League right. This is someone that you're getting in your fourteenth fifteenth round. Who could finish with? He's not going to be a fantasy wide receiver to, but he could be a flex option for you even. At an ADP that's about two steps away from just being a flyer pick so. Where Corey Davis gets hurt again is there's going to be limited volume here. You've got Ryan Tannehill. You have a run heavy offense. It's not gonNA be a situation like Atlanta or Kansas City where there's going to be crazy, enough volume to support one or two top twenty receiving options, but there's going to be enough there to where Corey Davises at least can be worth taking the risk on. He's a lottery ticket. You can have hopes of. Of a breakout for him, if something were to happen with Aj, Brown. I think he steps into that role. He's a capable wide receiver again while he might not be elite, he's Abbadi and he's going to be the beneficiary of targets. If something were to happen a brown, so I like Corey Davis as a very late round flyer again a potential wide receiver to in this offense that you're getting an ADP in almost two hundredth right now. So the last guy here worth noting slot receiver. That's Adam Humphreys. He's sitting about twenty wide receiver spots lower than Davis. He's in the mid nineties is ADP is almost non-existent? He's up in the three hundreds, so he did have a top three finish just a couple years ago as the slot option for Tampa Bay, and the reason that he went to Tennessee is what the emergence of Chris Godwin and Mike Evans really looked like he was going to need to find somewhere. Where was going to have a? A bigger role and that just never really materialized when he came Tennessee last year, finished with just forty seven targets, a little under four hundred yards and two touchdowns, and what's even more concerning is that his weekly value dropped even more after Ryan Tannehill was introduced into the lineup so humphries, even though he's not too far off of a decent finish for you just not worth drafting at all. I don't really see any breakout potential with him. Any lottery value there so general I would avoid Adam Humphreys. So moving on, let's talk about the Jacksonville Jaguars. Everyone seems to think the Jaguars. They're going to be the worst team in the league this year. I don't necessarily disagree with them, but that doesn't mean they don't have some legitimate fantasy options for you, so they're number. One guy is DJ Shark. He's sitting at about wide receiver twenty-three, his ADP up in the fifties so last year he really broke out with Gardner Menchu taking the helm for the majority of. Of the year able to get one hundred eighteen targets, a thousand yards and hold in eight touchdowns so a great season, despite the fact that later on I think it was about week fourteen, he started dealing with an ankle issue. He missed one game came back wasn't quite the same player, but overall solid season for DJ Chuck. He will have some competition this year. Guys, they have La Viscous Chenault, who they drafted relatively early in the twenty twenty draft however. As much as I like Chanel. You guys have heard me talk about him before I like him as a dynasty pick, he is coming off a core muscle injury that he had during the off season, and on top of that he already has an extensive injury history. So when you take all of those things into account, and the fact that Cova is really slowing the amount of time that players and teams are able to meet up and go through Rehab. Check on medical things like that I think that it's going to allow Dj Turk to really fend off, of Chenault especially early in the season, and really be a target hog for the offense. I mentioned that injury before with Chuck about week fourteen guys before he went down with that, he was wide receiver eight, and let me repeat Gardner Minhsiu as quarterback. Who while I? Think he is underrated is still obviously not an elite quarterback, but he was putting up excellent numbers. Overall, the roster is a mess and the defense is a mess, and I get why people think they're going to be awful. However defenses bad. They're gonNA be swinging the ball around more and as I mentioned mentioned is a little bit underrated, great, deep ball passer, and that works really well with the style of play that Dj. Dj Turk brings. He's going to be able to get down the field and he's going to be able to come down with congested catches so I. See even team is going to be bad. I see a relatively low floor with shark. He's still young developing player so I think we're going to keep him on the field as much as they can. It's not like the McCaffrey situation where they pay the guy a ton of money and they need to you know protect their asset so even if the team really starts at tank, look for charge to be able to get consistent targets throughout the year. Now, so the other player that I mentioned was viscous. Chenault. He is looking about wide receiver. Seventy sixers ADP all the way in the mid two hundreds right now and as I mentioned. I. Do like him in Dynasty I think he's going to be an excellent wide receiver, and had he not had this injury history coming in I could very easily seen him go in the first round right after guys like Jerry Judy. or CD lamb. However, we can't ignore it. It's there. The injury history is real, and like I mentioned the fact that he's not going to have a lot of time to work with the team before the season starts to really get into the system because a cova, it's really going to take time to develop, and as I mentioned rookie, wide receivers already usually take her than other rookie positions to really come into their own and hit their peak the. Just has a lot of things working against him from that front now the good news is even though the Jaguars offense had this. Notion that they were very limited last year, it was still able to support four players getting ninety or more targets so la Vista if you starting and if he's healthy, is going to have some good fantasy value for you, but that is the question Mark Right now he is in danger to not start right away, but if you do want to take the risk on Louis cushion, if you are a fan of the type of player, he is like I am. He's a guy that if you draft him towards the end of your drafts, he's a very easy cut week one if he's not out there on the field. Very, you're gonNA know right away even without having a preseason if he's not regularly in the lineup, you cut bait with them and be done with it now to the last player of note that's going to be Dede Westbrook. He sitting actually slightly higher on the wide receiver rankings. Then Levinsky is right now at wide receiver seventy-one. His ADP is the in the late one hundred right now, so he is. Is the starting slot. Guy Jacksonville. We know that he doesn't have any real competition for that spot right now. He got one hundred and one target each of the last two seasons, exactly one hundred and one, which is kind of crazy. However, but what's frustrating about Westbrook is despite the fact that he gets all of these targets. He's yet to really be able to translate that into actual solid fantasy production. Right he's not a big touchdown guy. He doesn't get a ton of yardage out of his catches. He's really limited to just a solid p P. R. option, so if you can get them late like I mentioned I'd like him NPR, however, for that kind of. Where you're sitting before you hit the two hundred eighty, P, I'd much rather wait a couple of rounds and snag somebody like Danny Amendola for Detroit or Cole Beasley at Buffalo. And you can get them almost fifty draft spots later, and even though their target share might be a little bit lower. They're able to do more with their targets and I. Think fantasy values are GonNA. Come out pretty even so if I can get similar production fifty spots after where you can get Westbrook I'm obviously going to go for that rather than draft him. So that's it for the Jaguars then moving onto Indianapolis. So this is an interesting wide receiver situation. They're dealing with right now. Where their top guy, at least in my opinion is one of the least desirable in their system, and that's t Y. Hilton Hilton has been a solid fantasy option year in and year out specifically when he had Andrew Luck as quarterback, but this year he's sitting about wide receiver. Twenty five in the rankings is ADP is up in the fifties. Here's what you have to consider what? He's thirty years old. We've seen him. Start to have to regularly deal with injuries the last couple of years when he is healthy, he produces. He had twelve hundred yards when he was able to play fourteen games and twenty eighteen, but the problem is, he can't consistently stay on the field like he used to. And for the first time he has some real competition for targets. They're in Indianapolis and his type played. Doesn't Mesh well with Philip. Rivers as the other two players on this list, the specifically Michael Pittman who I'll get to hear shortly. So there's a lot of risk with how high he's being taken right now. I understand why is ranking is there because he's had seasons where he's been in a number one wide receiver, but he dropped off pretty severely in two thousand, nine hundred. And a couple of things you want to consider. One. They have an aging quarterback. They have an older quarterback in Philip rivers, so he may not be asked to throw the ball nearly as much as Andrew. Luck did when he was there. So that's GonNa Limit Hilton from that perspective and then two guys. They're going to run the ball a lot this year. They already have Marlin Mack. Who had a solid twenty nineteen campaign? Wasn't you know? Know I- amazing running back, but he was able to get the job done. He's a solid workhorse guy. And then they go out and draft Jonathan Taylor in the second round. That tells me that they're definitely going to want to be more. Run focused in two thousand twenty, which makes sense because as I mentioned older quarterback, and they have one of the best offensive lines in the NFL so. So of course, you're going to want to pound the rock a little bit more, so there's a lot of things taking away from T.. Y. Hilton if he was a bona fide number one in that offense, and we knew what his role was gonNA. Look like with Philip Rivers. This ranking might be different, but the competition scares me and their potential to run the ball a lot more also. Also scares me here, so that brings me to my number two, that's Paris Campbell. He's sitting at wide receiver sixty three. His ADP's almost in the two hundred, so you can get him way later than t y, Hilton and the great thing about him is, he seems to be a younger version of them right? They drafted Paris Campbell to be T. Y. Hilton! He's being groomed as replacement. See in the stature in the speed of play style. These guys are nearly identical players Paris. Campbell is still developing a little bit now. What makes me nervous with Campbell and the only reason I don't have him higher than I do because as low as I am on Hilton. He still going to be on the field. He still going to be part of that offense, and with both these guys playing a similar role I can see there being real potential for them to kind of cancel each other out. And on top of that, that doesn't Mesh incredibly well with Philip rivers. Now. If Hilton were to miss some time, which is very possible. I think Campbell jumps up the board quite a bit. This point in his career I think Campbell is strong enough to be able to step right into that t Hilton Role, even though he may not be as good as Hilton was at its peak, he's still serviceable. Now. Here's the other side of that Campbell is also not exactly been the pinnacle of health. He missed nine games already in his first season. One season. He's already miss nine, so he's not. A fire candidates beyond the field, either so at this point I'm not super high on Paris Campbell or T. Y. Hilton, however I am excited about the team moving forward when Paris Campbell assuming he's able to stay. Healthy develops a little bit more and Hilton eventually moves off the team which could be as soon as next year. Paris Campbell and Michael Pittman have the potential to be one of the best young receiving core is in the NFL, which moves me on to Michael Pittman. He is sitting one spot lower Paris. Campbell right now as far as wide receivers go, and ADP is actually a little bit better, so the experts are really kind of going back and forth on these two guys. They're both very young. Their play styles are completely different, and that's why I actually favor. Pittman here a little bit more I think as I've been alluding to. I think Michael Pittman play style just fits a lot better with rivers than Campbell's does now Pittman. Is the best contested catch receiver on this team right now even as a rookie. That's the reason. He was drafted as high as he was. He's a big man. He's going to be was speed. He's not gonNA run greatest routes in the world, but he's going to go up and haul. Impasse passes just off of his physicality, and he has the potential to become a number one receiver in the NFL just off of that ability. Is that good at what he does and And what do we know about Philip rivers even as he gets older, the dude is a risk taker. He likes to swing the ball down the field and he's going to need someone reliable to pull passes in. That might not be the most accurate in the world, and that is where Michael. Pittman is going to shine on top of being incredibly physical. His catch radius is also pretty incredible, and he can be favors right off the bat. He can be a safety. Safety Valve who can get them plays down the field with consistency. I think the culture going to want to develop him quickly as I. mentioned. Hilton is likely on his way out after the twenty twenty season, so Campbell will step into that role. They're going to get pittman comfortable on the other side of the field this year, and you should be able to see him on the field plenty of times. He's going to be playing all year I think he has A. A wide receiver three ceiling this year again if he's able to really develop that relationship with Philip, rivers, I think he will, and then, as soon as next year I think that jumps up to a wide receiver to ceiling with Hilton out of the picture, and with rivers there for one more year, so I'm I'm really high on Michael Pittman, especially for his ADP, which again is in one seventy to one ninety right now somewhere in there depending on where you're drafting. Not As high on the other two, but moving forward I do like Peres Campbell as well, and he should be someone that you're looking at in your dynasty leaks. All right and last, but not least we have one of the more divisive wide receiver rooms in fantasy right now and that the Houston Texans we all know de'andre. Shipped out of there for a bag of peanuts and David Johnson, which opens up at minimum, one hundred and fifty targets for this offense. You've got to Shawn Watson at quarterback. He's going to have somebody there. That's going to break out in his receiving core. The real question is is it will fuller. Is it Brandin cooks, so here's my take on each of these guys. They are right next to each other in the wide receiver rankings ADP also flipped so just like I was saying with Pittman and Campbell. The experts are really split on these guys down the middle, so I'll start with Willfuller, he's sitting at about wide receiver, thirty five, and just to look ahead a little cook at thirty six, so one of these guys is going to be a number one. Receiver in fantasy this year, and you're going to be able to get them. In rounds five, six, seven right, so one of these guys really GonNa pay off for you, so we'll fuller. I think this will be a much easier conversation. If Fuller could stay on the field. That's a big. If guys right if I could guarantee. He was GONNA play fourteen games for me this year. Then he would be my pick hands down. He's got game breaking speed. He's the most talented wide receiver on the team, but he's already missed nineteen games in four years, and that's not even telling the whole story. There have been plenty of instances where will fuller has played injured? Injured which I think is part of what is really lent to this boom or bust persona that he's really kind of taken. There's going to be one year where willful or plays all sixteen games, and he finishes as a top five wide receiver, but I don't know when that's going to be and I don't feel comfortable enough at this point to really be betting on him to stay on the field as much as he. He needs to now when he is playing. He's still going to be boomer bust. He is a little bit big play dependent like I said he's a speed stories at down. The Field Kinda guy another thing he has going for him. He does have some chemistry with Shawn Watson and that'll help him over. Someone like cooks a little bit because there's not gonna be as much of an off season for him to introduce but. But the one thing we know about brandin cooks is that he's perfectly fine. Getting bounced from team to team, so let's move into him now like I said just one spot lower than will fuller right now in the consensus wide receiver rankings. In my opinion, he's the safer of the two options. He's had some injury issues, but he's only missed about eight games in six years and six of those came in his rookie season. As I mentioned. He's already produced for three different teams. It hasn't been a case where he has to step in and there's an adjustment period. No like he was great new, Orleans where he was drafted when he was in new, England he produced right away, and then we also saw him play a crucial part with that rams offense when they were in the superbowl just a couple of years ago now the reason I think people are a little lower on cooks. Coming into the season is not only the team change, but the rams were a mess. In Twenty, one, thousand, nine, hundred and. That really brought his value down. People think that he progressed a little bit, but I think that was a lot more because of the rams, offensive line, and the fact that they've really struggled to find their identity, and not nearly as much about cooks himself in seventy targets, five hundred eighty three yards, two touchdowns. That's not like him at all. Before that he had four one thousand yard seasons in a row in a row. So this was an anomaly, a lot more on the rams than in his on him. So and then on top of that, he was still producing when he was competing with Robert Woods and Cooper Cup who are legitimate fantasy options year in and year out so everything taken into account here cooks, a solid wide receiver who going to be on the field, and I think that is good enough for Watson to latch onto him and I believe he's going to be the breakout guy in this Texans offense. It's not to say that Willfuller is not going to have value. But when all is said and done cooks is wide receiver rankings. GonNa shoot way up and floors is going to end up dropping here, so give me shares of Brandin cooks. Willfuller. This is something I actually changed my mind on guys. I was higher on willful or when this all started, but the more I look into the injury history, the more that that worries the crap out of me, so I like Brandin cooks a ton in this offense so to other guys actually still worth mentioning what the Texans they do have Randall Cobb this year where they brought in. He is a slot target hog. He's a guy that. Has. Value like a lot of other players that I've mentioned, and his ADP is somewhere in the mid two hundreds right now. He's got minimal competition out of that slot role. It's a role that we know Watson is still going to like to go to. He does have a little bit of limited touchdown potential. He's never been a high touchdown guy, but he could still nab ninety. Ninety plus targets like I, said with Hopkins leaving. There are targets opening up all over the field cobble, definitely be a recipient of that, and because of that he's going to have good pr production, and there's also may come as a shock to you guys. A lot of people think that Randall Cobb is kind of on his last leg. He's getting old. He's only twenty nine. I didn't believe that I had to double. Check it I thought he was similar in his mid thirties. It feels like he's been in the League's I've been alive, but no twenty nine years old, and he's still going to be able to produce plenty for you. COBB has a lot left in the tank, and then finally guys Kenny stills. He is sitting a couple of spots lower than Randall Cobb. He's twenty eight years old. Kenney still is only a year younger than Randall. Cobb again is still blowing my mind. Kenny stills! I think his only real value is where. Injuries are going to start happening. He's GonNa. Step into one of these bigger roles and get me wrong. Given the players on this team. There is some real potential for injury, but until that happens still going to be very limited. At best he someone. You can stash at the end of your bench for when players start to go down, but he's not someone that you. Would want bet on weakened and week out by any means so that is it guys? 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Mame Dash podcast, don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit GSM see podcasts dot com for more INFO. Don't And welcome back to the DSM. See Fantasy football podcast. I'm your host BSP Brandon. Soda Penner as you heard. Last segment just took a look at the AFC south wide receiver room now for some reason you're jumping into the middle of this podcast. Do not worry. I did switch the AFC an NFC segments this time around. I usually do the NFC. I decided to give the AFC out of the way, no offense to them, but there is not another wide receiver division that holds a handle to the NFC, south. So. Let's get into it. We'll start with the consensus. Receiver Fantasy for twenty twenty with the New Orleans. Saints that is Michael Thomas, as I mentioned wide receiver one his ADP. Somewhere between three and six, depending on the type of approach that you're taking. I did a segment about how Thomas isn't the clear cut number one. There is opportunity for him to lose that spot throughout the year. However, all things considered guys. He is the number one option four fantasy in two thousand twenty when it comes to your receiver. Number here guys is sixty seven. Sixty seven points is the number of points that Thomas finished ahead of the wide receiver to last season. That is insane. That is multiple games of number one wide receiver numbers ahead of the second best guy in the League on top of that in two thousand twenty. He's got limited competition. Michael Thomas is the clear wide receiver one there, even with Emmanuel Sanders on the team now I don't see him taking a lot of targets away from Michael Thomas especially with drew brees still at the helm. Now that is the only real place where I see there being a potential hangup. Drew brees has declined steadily the last few years. Even though people don't really want to admit it, we don't see it as much early season, but his arm starts to wear on him. As season goes on, he's not able to push the ball down the field. Quite as much now the good news is. Michael Thomas is used a lot more in the short to intermediate games, so the good news is even a breeze does start to decline a little bit. He should still be utilized a lot I. don't think he's going to drop off a ton. Even if breeze does, or the issue comes in breezes to get hurt again, or if you play so poorly that they do have to move on from a season, having gene as Winston in there might hurt him a little bit more, might Winston. Winston we know can support multiple number one receivers, however when you look at Thomas, who is a real guy that benefits from breezes, accuracy in sniper like approach, and you switch them out with Winston. who was just a blazing free kind of gunslinger type of quarterback? There is some potential for Thomas Value to drop off there but I'm not predicting that breezes going to go down, but as he ages. It is something that you at least have to think about again, not enough for you to. For you to not consider him as the number, one receiver and fantasy this year so again just to show you. How good Michael Thomas is his stats from last season one thousand, seven, hundred twenty five yards, which is insane, there might be a little regression there. That's neither here, nor there nine touchdowns, one hundred and forty nine targets. Now you might also look at them. Will Nine touchdowns. He's probably do for some regression there. That's relatively high for a wide receiver, even as the clear cut number, one guy and his team, not the case guys twenty sixteen nine touchdowns, twenty seventeen five touchdowns. touchdowns, twenty nine touchdowns, twenty, nine, hundred and nine touchdowns, guys. He is scoring machine talent wise I can't tell you that I think he's the most talented wide receiver in the NFL, but he is the most valuable to his team, and he has a very very low floor and an incredible ceiling so love Michael. Thomas, as the number one guy, this year I didn't mentioned Emmanuel Sanders. Who's going to be on the other side of him? He is sitting about wide receiver forty-three. His ADP is up in the low one hundred's with sanders. You GotTa think this is his third team now. Now in literally a year he went from Denver to San Francisco on a trade last year, San Francisco decided not to keep them, and is already moved into New Orleans. He's also thirty three years old, which I did not realize four years older than Randall Cobb at does not feel like Emmanuel. Sanders has been in the league that long, so despite all of this he has so put up some reliable numbers the last few seasons. He's not aid steady fantasy option, but he does have plenty left in the tank. You're still now. He will be lost behind Michael Thomas. This isn't going to. To be a situation, even like Atlanta and I'm going to talk about where while breezes talented. Thomas is utilized so much that I don't see him. Really supporting a second solid fantasy, he's going to get lost there, so he might have a breakout weaker or two, because sanders still has the talent, and it is a high powered offense, but Michael Thomas so rooted in this offense at this point that it's going to be tougher sanders to get a really big share again. Same things I've been talking about for all players that are arriving in a new teams covert has limited the ability. For players to get involved in the off season programs really take in their offenses as a whole so as I said he'll have breakout week or two. He's going to get a lot of value of Michael. Thomas goes down. He hasn't really shown us that. That's something we have to worry about, but you could see him. Really shoot all the way up to like a wide receiver fantasy wide receiver to at that point, but overall not really big on Emmanuel Sanders this year. Also guys as I mentioned with brees getting a little bit older, they do have Alvin Kamara still so. Kamara is not only going to take away a lot of those wide receiver. Receiver to targets, but they're going to be running the ball at him a lot this year. I think their offense will shift a little bit even Latavius Murray's a solid backup. They're gonNA utilize their backs a lot more, and that's going to take a little bit more away. From Emmanuel, Sanders, so last guy worth mentioning that's trae one Smith. He's sitting at about wide receiver eighty six eighty ps in the late two hundreds right now I not really big on him guys. He's only sixty nine targets in twenty six games in the NFL so far, and that was even before Emmanuel Sanders had arrived. He's GonNa see the field is because of the way that. New Orleans likes to lineup. They like to spread the field a little bit. However, value is extremely limited the one thing that people attached to with him that he does have a surprising touchdown total. He's had ten touchdowns in those two thousand six games, so maybe he has some value in best ball or even as a value picker. If you're doing daily fantasy, but I'm avoiding him altogether in any kind of standard dynasty, any of those kind of drafts trick wants he's had as opportunities. He just hasn't really made anything of them, so it's Michael Thomas guys, and it's everybody else in that offense. Next up, guys is my favorite one two punch from a receiving core, even more than Tampa Bay who will talk about later on, but guys. That's the Atlanta. Falcons starting with Julio Jones. He is currently what the consensus rankings. The wide receiver for his ADP is around fourteen, and in my opinion, he's the number two receiver in fantasy this year. He's incredibly consistent guys from two thousand fourteen to twenty nineteen, his worst season for yardage was last year, any still almost broke fourteen hundred yards, and the touchdown he had, which was an anomaly, was twenty seventeen where he had three, and he was playing through injury and being used. Used as a decoy for a lot of that year. Look guys in front of them Davante. Adams you guys know my opinion on him. You've got tyreek Hill. There is well who he may finish with more fantasy, points and Julio at the end of the season. There's a real possibility for that. However when I'm drafting receiver this, Hi, I'll take consistency over boomer bus play week in and week out, it might be great. tyreek hill finishes with more points at the end of the year, but if it's at the cost of having games where he's only getting three or four points in the other games where he's getting thirty. I'd much rather have the guy that scoring me fifteen to twenty points every week, and I can rely on tyreek. Hill is going to end up losing you some weeks because he's just not going to be utilized to his full potential Julio Jones. You're not going to have to worry about that on top of all this guys. We know Atlanta's GonNa love to pass the ball a ton. He's also got Calvin Ridley who I'm about to mention here. Here on the other side of him, and the benefit of having a player over there of Ridley's caliber is that defenses are not going to be able to cheat coverage over to Julio Calvin really is too good and is going end up burning teams. If they're going to try to bracket Julio Endeavour Co Double Cover Him so that's GonNa leave both of these guys open enough to do what they're able to do best and he is thirty three. Some people are a little concerned about that, but he's really shown no signs of regression even at thirty three years old Julio Jones is still the gift that keeps on giving guys, so I love Julio this year. Calvin Ridley who I just mentioned. He is actually pretty high now. He has continued to climb throughout the rankings when I first started paying attention to Ridley. He was still sitting in the twenty s for wide receiver rankings this year. He's all the way up to sixteen among the expert consensus. So I think he's the best wide receiver to fantasy football. As I mentioned, I liked this core even more than Tampa Bay I think he's GonNa Finish better numbers than Mike Evans even he's on track for one hundred and twenty targets, even as the wide receiver to win this offense, and on top of that he's been crazy efficient his first two years in the league. He has seventeen touchdowns off of one hundred and eighty five catches, not targets guys catches. He's been super-efficient. He's got. Matt Ryan there two guys who has proven that he maintain to tap tear wide receivers. Guys in the top twenty, four four different times, the only other quarterback that's been able to do that was Aaron. Rodgers and you don't often hear those two mentioned in the same Ilk, but Matt Ryan might not be winning. Mvp Year in year out. He's taken a seem to one super bowl. Rogers has to wow. That's kind of crazy to think about, but regardless he's going to put up enough passing volume to really support the players top of that. Muhammad's the news gone. Muhammad was being utilized in this offense quite a bit as a slot guy, so his targets are now vacated for the full year, so there is really no competition behind either Calvin Ridley or So Calvin Ridley can put up borderline wide receiver. One fantasy numbers, even as the second guy on his team I am very high on this Atlanta offense this year, even if the team may not be great as a whole so last guy I'm just going to mention him as Russell Gauge. He's only in the top one hundred for wider consensus I believe. Because of this offense, he has the potential for some production, but the guys in front of him are just too talented to really be betting on him. As any kind of regular fantasy threat, the only place I really see Russel Gage draftable was in fourteen to sixteen leagues like really deeply guys because he'll get you a couple of points at the end your lineup that you'll need. He's not boomer busty enough to be a good ball pick. He's not young, enough and promising enough to be a good dynasty pick so he's got very limited potential again. Only a guy I'm targeting if I've got an incredibly deep redraft league. All right next is by far the Best Wide Receiver Grouping from twenty, nine, thousand, nine hundred, and that's the Tampa Bay buccaneers so Chris. Godwin is just a couple spots ahead of Mike Evans right now when you talk about expert consensus. I actually do agree with them here. He's about wide receiver six. His ADP is between sixteen and eighteen so I think rankings about right here. At wide receiver six, he broke out in two, thousand, nine, thousand, nine, hundred great year, one hundred and twenty-one targets. Thirteen hundred yards, nine touchdowns, and all of this behind a crazy year from Jameis Winston, where he was able to support to top five guys, and still somehow managed to throw thirty interceptions and finish with the most yards in the league. It's a very taboo type deal with him. So what do we know about Tom Brady? Now Winston's replacement? He's not going to swing the ball for five thousand yards. That's not how he is. He's also not going to take as many risks throw as many interceptions, but he does love his slot receivers, just looking at what he was able to do with Julian Edelman. Averaged about one hundred fifty targets a year with Brady, and when I look at Chris, Godwin, he's younger. He's faster and stronger than overall a better wide receiver, so I think Tom Brady is going to be foaming at the mouth when he gets down to Tampa and is able to utilize him as a true slot weapon I like this a lot now. One downside with Brady while I sound like he's he's GonNa be. Be Able to lead his team. To what I think is going to be a super bowl appearance this year. He's never really produced enough. Passing Volume Kerry two elite wide receivers, so the fact that they've got Mike Evans and Chris Goblin Bolt Stone ranked that high I think is a mistake because one of them is bound the drop off, and the more I look into it. I really think it's GonNa. Be Mike Evans. Right I. Mean even if Brady takes a step back this year as he continues to get older, which he could, he's forty two I, mean. Chris, God win is still going to be a safe option for him. He's going to be that Short Intermediate Slot target that he likes to work with Mike Evans a little more nervous about I think he's a real. Can it to regress with Brady now in charge here? Here braid is not seeing the ball like Jameis Winston does might reveal already been over this. Assuming that Brady really does like to go to Godwin they're not going to be a ton of targets left four Mike Evans produce off of now. What Evans have going for him is even with James Winston in some of the other subpar quarterbacks. They've had there in Tampa. Bay said six straight thousand yard seasons, but He is also inconsistent from game to game. He's very touchdown reliant which worked with James Winston from time to time, but still he was not able to get you amazing value game in and game out now with them being a veteran brady, still gonNA rely on him, but because of that touchdown dependency I think is big play productions going to be limited with Tom Brady as opposed Jameis Winston. Brady's not going to find Evans way openly way down the field. He's not gonna be able to push the ball like that, so that's GonNa hurt Evans a little bit too so. Frustrating because he's still a good receiver I don't want you guys think that he's not. He's only twenty six years old. He's been consistent from a yard standpoint since he's been in the League but again with Tom Brady coming in. He can't support both these guys I think. All the signs are pointing to him. Really lie or relying on Godwin more, and I can realistically see Mike Evans dropping four or five fantasy spots and finished right behind the guy like Calvin Ridley. So, that's my whole thing on Evans. I like God went a lot. I'm going to be drafting him. Wide Receiver. Six again is about right. I wouldn't go reach for him, but a guy like Evans man. Take a risk on a little bit later. But why does he ate way too high for me right now? Only other guys worth mentioning on the team. They've got Tyler Johnson and just Watson. These guys are just undrafted and it's got nothing to do with them, but the two guys in front of them are talented. We know that God wouldn't Evans are going to be the real focal point of the offense. We know that Brady has a limited ceiling when it comes to passing production like I just mentioned, and then when it comes to the third or fourth receiving options. They're going to be looking at guys like Gronk and Oj. Howard who we know. Tom Brady traditionally likes to target is tight ends. Those guys are going to be utilized a lot more than either. Johnson, Watson, so, I really don't see any fantasy value for either them in two thousand twenty. All right guys last team for this episode, and that is the Carolina Panthers. They have a clear number one option right now. That's Dj more peace sitting about wide receiver fifteen. His ADP is in the fifties. So he is the clear cut number one guy in, Carolina. There's no question about that. I like her two Samuel like Robbie, Anderson. But neither of them are real competition. Take the number one spot, but I'm not as high on him. As a lot of the experts are actually kind of confused about it I'm feeding him quite a bit, and it's got nothing to do with him and a lot more to do with Teddy, bridgewater. Bridgewater is good enough to succeed on good teams. We saw it in Minnesota when they had a great run game an excellent offense. Offense we saw it in New Orleans where they had Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara great offensive line and a solid defense. He's now going to Carolina and Carolina has issues Carolina's GonNa be playing from behind a lot. And with how limited bridgewater is passer. That's really gonNA hurt him, and I think he's GonNa make mistakes this year. And all of these things are just piling on to where it really feels like. Carolina is just going to end up taking very early on top of that. We know they're going to be run heavy as well. They've got Christian McCaffrey. The backfield and McCaffrey's can eat up a ton of targets which bridgewater I think is coin to utilize quite a bit because as we know, he's not a great down the field passer. I mean people were saying by people I mean fantasy experts that I also read and listen to break down there things a lock for one hundred and thirty targets, but guys I just don't see it. Yes, he's the number one guy, but bridgewater is not going to be slinging the ball around this much right even when they are playing from behind. They're gonNA rely on McCaffrey. A lot in this team has the potential to fall into a complete mess in the fall apart in two thousand twenty I'm protecting him more into the mid twenties this year and I think he'll improve when they do. Get a guy like Justin fields or Trevor Lawrence in two thousand twenty. He can be utilized properly, but I'm just not sold on the team as a whole enough to be drafting Dj more as a top fifteen wide receiver right now it's unfortunate. Again I like the guy, but he's going to be limited as a product of the system that is currently in right now, so other guys talk about. We Got Curtis Samuel. He's sitting at wide receiver, fifty three, and then Robbie Anderson sitting about fifty seven. There ps or flip, so these are two guys that are kind of going back and forth between what the public thinks, and then what the experts thing, but I'll start with Samuel. So. Samuel has yet to really break out. Right and Carolina just spent twenty million dollars to bring in Robbie Anderson. If current Samuel was part of their big play their big plans going forward right I don't think they would've spent that much to bring Anderson in here. Samuels talented. He's a flexible player and he works great for that offense, but from a fancy standpoint, he just doesn't do anything quite well enough to bring in fantasy points year in and year out I mean he's only racked up about twelve hundred receiving yards now in three years. And on top of that Losing Cam Newton and then losing Alan, and then we're going to bring in Teddy Bridgewater instead. And Add Robbie Anderson is competition. It's only gonNA. End Up lowering his values so I'm really not big on Curtis Samuel at all this year, and then there's Robbie Anderson who who's just a couple of spots lower than him right now from a consensus standpoint. I'm projecting him to get the second most wide receiver targets on the team. Still going to be limited because he won't get as many targets as Christian McCaffrey obviously, but the panthers did invest in him guys. They invested twenty million dollars into Robbie, Anderson and on top of that. He's already got a relationship with head coach. Matt Rule. He played under rule when he was at temple just a few years ago so gruel know that he knew that he wanted Anderson. He went out and got him right away. And that makes me think that he has carved out role in this offense already. He's had on top of all this. He's head, consistent wide receiver to production the last three seasons, even with at best suspect quarterback play that they've had up there in New York so, everything's really just adding up for right now. I honestly think that Robbie Anderson will be the number two option in this offense again still limited. Got Teddy Bridgewater hand you've got Christian McCaffrey, and Jay more already eating up targets for you, but if you need some mid late round, consistent production Robbie Anderson I, think is a nice choice for you. And I'm really not touching Curtis Samuel it all again. It's frustrating I. Love watching him play, but he doesn't do anything quite well enough to fully take on that second wide receiver role so there you have it, guys. That is the AFC and NFC south. Rooms I love a lot of what I see out of the NFC south this year. There's going to be tons of fantasy production and there's potential to have. Three the top three wide receivers could realistically all come out of the NFC south this year. So that's the Brown for today's episode. When we come back, we're going to wrap it up one more segment for you guys as I go over my top ten late round. Fantasy targets for you guys that are going to be target hogs that players fantasy players rather not going necessarily be locking in on and players that you can rely on at the end of your roster to bring you just a little bit of value despite how low they're going, you are listening to the GSM MC fantasy football podcast and we'll be right back. Zik, out this show built around the women of MMA from the UFC, to the extreme cage fighting, we got the fights cover. The golden state media concepts women's made podcast the latest news of upcoming discussions of previous matches join us as we talked to. In about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future. When the women's game, you know we're to listen to the golden state media concepts women's MMA podcast. Gone. And welcome into the final segment of the GSM GMC Fantasy Football podcast I. am your host BSP Brandon Soderberg covered plenty for you. Today started off the show talking about the Jamal Adams trade the fact that Delvin Cook more than likely going to be showing up to training camp next week. Answered your five burning fantasy questions got into the AFC and NFC, south wide receiver rooms, and finally going to end it all with our top ten this episode. It is the top ten late PP are targets so these guys that? That specifically in your PR league. You're going to be able to get some real value out of even though they're ADP is sub two hundred, whether that's because they are good lottery tickets with crazy upside, or there are actually some people on this list. Some players on this list that are going to be able to give you consistent value, even though they're ADP is super high, so let's get it going right away. Guys number ten guy talked about a little earlier in this episode. It's Russell, gauge. He is on this. This list specifically because his ADP is so high. If you don't remember, he is the third wide receiver for the Atlanta. Falcons says eighty PS, three, hundred, thousand seven right now, and while he's not going to have a ton of value for you in your standard twelve team league. If you're running fourteen to sixteen teams, he is someone that you could plug in as a flex guy and you know he's going to be able to get you at least a few points every week. He's also going to be a factor. Factor in daily fantasy, because he will have good matchups where he's again, he's not gonNA build doors off of anybody I. Don't necessarily like him in best ball, but he's going to be able to get you good production for how low of a price you're going to be able to snag him four, so Russell Gauge is number ten for me. Number nine is Lynn Boden. He is the wide receiver running back quarterback whatever you WANNA. Call Him for the Las Vegas. Raiders his ADP, currently, sitting at two forty nine. Now, he's a guy that I liked because he reminds me a lot of what. Antonio Gibson is going to potentially do for Washington which if you're wondering, he's not on this list because his ADP was one ninety four, but he's just an offensive weapon. They're going to be able to plug in all around the field even if they can't find one distinct job for him in twenty, twenty. Twenty? He's going to still get touches a running back. He's going to get targeted as wide receiver. He's going to be utilized quite a bit. So I feel like Lynn Boden has crazy upside especially where you're able to get him right now to forty nine. That's at the very back and of draft, so if you're looking for a nice little lottery ticket, big fan of Lynn, Boden there. Now number eight. I had to double take when I saw his ADP, but it is accurate, and this is marcus. Robinson for the chiefs is ADP is four hundred and fourteen, so he's basically undrafted Damarcus. Robinson his tied to the best offense in the NFL right so weakened weak out. He might get a couple of targets. I don't see him being a huge factor with the guys in front of him, but the minute that any one of those receivers goes down. Robinson's value just skyrockets, and you've got guys like Sammy, Watkins on that team that have a extensive injury history I wouldn't be surprised at all Robbins and get significant touches that some point this year so again ADP fourteen. Grab them in the last round and just stash this guy. He's going to be able to get some excellent value for you. Number seven. Another guy talked about a little bit earlier. That's Corey Davis the wide receiver for the Tennessee Titans. Titans, guys. This is a a number two wide receiver that's going at eighty, two thirty six and I get it. I made a lot of the points that this is a run first offense and he's not going to be utilized nearly as much as you know. The big name second wide receivers like Calvin Ridley like Mike. Evans nothing like that. Don't get me wrong, but he's still the number. Two Guy. He still going to be playing nearly every snap. Snap and there is real value in that to thirty six is still pretty freaking low for Corey Davis and I'm willing to take the risk on him. At that point, they're still even a very small chance that he takes over the number one spot because we know Mike, rebel likes him so while it's an outside chance. I, think he's worth taking a risk, and while you're waiting for him to potentially blow up. He still going to be able to. To get you some points. If you need to start him from week to week, number six guy, you've heard me talk about plenty. That's Muhammed Sohn New wide receiver for New England his ADP just one spot lower actually than Corey Davis somebody has to break out as a receiver in this New England offense and while Julia. Element, is the favourite right now I think Sununu as a slot guy is to play a little bit better to what Cam Newton. Is going to want to do and I'm just not convinced that is going to be able to produce without Tom Brady. He's limited in a lot of different ways as a wide receiver, and he fit the system really well with what Brady wanted to do, and that led him to be very highly targeted very highly used, but I think everyone's going to regress to the mean a little bit and I think that's going to allow Muhammed Sohn new to really produce even at his ridiculously low ADP right now, so number five another guy that I talked about. I guess not this episode couple of episodes ago now, but that's Devin. funchess the wide receiver for Green Bay. He's his ADP is to sixty nine. And the reason that he's on this list is because he has a real chance to take over that second wide receiver spot. It's kind of wide open right now in Green Bay animals are it seems like he has it right now, but funchess being a veteran and being a solid fantasy receiver. Just two years ago might just granted him the opportunity to really click with Aaron Rodgers and if that happens, and he grabs that number two spot then you're talking about his ADP. Specific or finishing about one hundred spots higher than his ADP is right now so I like Devon punches. There is another lottery ticket type guy. All right so this next player, the only non wide receiver on this list and is Oj. End Four Tampa Bay is eighty to thirty two, and that is because Rob Gronkowski is in front of him, and we know that Brady loves to work with GRONK. But. I think you're GONNA. See both guys utilized in twenty twenty. Coach areas going to use any talent that he has on the team, and then on top of that Gronk. We don't know what he's GonNa look like after taking a year off and before that he was always injury prone. He would miss multiple. Games year I'm not sure that's something that just goes away even with a year of rest so as soon as that happens and Howard. Is the number one tight in that offense again? His value just absolutely skyrockets, and you could be getting a top three tight end in the league. At Eighty two thirty two, you could fly him. He's going undrafted in some instances so I like OJ Howard their number four now. My last three guys are going to be all players that don't have that lottery ticket type feel to them, but these are all guys that can produce weakened and week out specifically as slot receivers here and you're gonNA. Get points for basically nothing so number three guys Cole Beasley. You've heard me talk about them. Already slot receiver for Buffalo his eighty to nineteen right now. I feel like all of the receivers in Buffalo. We're going to be utilized pretty evenly. Beasley as already been commanding just under one hundred targets, even with John Brown in front of him I. Don't see that changing with Stefan digs because again while he's a very talented wide receiver, I think targets are going to be limited just because of the way that he plays the game, so Kohl's Kobe's XLII at a sub two hundred eighty. You know he's going to have targets available there for him. You Know Josh Allen Likes to utilize some of the underneath rows because he's not the most accurate quarterback in the world, so we need that little bit of a safety valve, so I love Beasley at three number, two Danny Amendola his ADP guys is two hundred, eighty one, and in that lions offense, even without Matt. Stafford was able to command about ninety five targets, so what Stafford coming back and then not adding any real receiving pieces I. don't see any reason that Amendola can't repeat that if not. Produce a little bit more with the more talented quarterback. The injury risk is there for him, but he's Kinda fended off the last couple of seasons, so assuming that he can stay healthy. Kevin Dolan at ADP to eighty. One could realistically get you. Some solid flex numbers weakened weak out and then last guy guys talked about him today. It's Randall COBB. He is tied to an excellent offense there in Houston again. They're slot guy. With Hopkins gone it opens up a ton of targets for this offense and you're going to see will fuller and Brandin cooks really fight over that x number, one receiver spot, but Randall. COBB doesn't have any real competition for where he's playing, and he's undoubtedly going to be the beneficiary of some of those targets opening up I can realistically see him getting one hundred and ten plus targets out of the slot position this year. Especially, if David Johnson doesn't work out the way they opened the running game, and they have to start throwing the ball more so cobb has amazing built-in value I cannot. CanNot, believe ADP as low as it is. I'm going to be definitely getting plenty of shares of Randall. COBB and twenty twenty, and he is my number one late round P P our target so again. Thank you guys for tuning in I really hope you enjoyed the show today. A lot of great content for you make sure you tune in next episode as we break down the AFC, NFC west, wide receiver rooms, and then after that just like we did with the running backs going to give you my top thirty fantasy wide receivers for twenty twenty, so thank you guys for listening to the. Fantasy football podcast brought to you as always by the. See podcast network I want to ask you. Please remember to subscribe to the show. We are on any form of social media that you can find and leave a nice review wherever you're listening guys. Any kind of feedback is going to help us bring you a better podcast so again. Follow us on facebook or on twitter were on instagram. 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2020 Footballguys Players Championship Live Draft Coverage

The High Stakes Fantasy Football Hour

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2020 Footballguys Players Championship Live Draft Coverage

"Uh-huh. Who Won't be in the first round shocker this evening what will be the position that slides down the draft board tonight and Ken Bip Lab. Mandel win this league for the third time in his career follow along with the live draft tonight and listen to our pick by pick analysis as we call the action from the twenty twenty football guys, players, championship live high stakes, fantasy football our draft to see if any of these teams will have what it takes to win a five hundred thousand dollar Grand Prize. We've got a great show for you. Dave Zach is here. I'm Eric Bachmann around your. Fantasy football our starts now? Own. Playing. Lord the big. Radio Broadcast live and heard around the world. You are now listening to the most entertaining our radio on the planet you'd be high stakes fantasy football hour presented by F F, PC DOT COM with your hosts Eric Hoffman and Dave at the high stakes fantasy football hour is your home for football analysis from the best fantasy players in the world, and now because no one else was available your Eric Hoffman and Zach. Still a book. Talk Me. been copied. Hake live rob greetings and salutations to all of the Balka Hollick's angers academics listening in tonight live. Welcome to the latest episode of the High Stakes Fantasy football are presented by my F. FCC DOT COM. I. Am as always of course, you're slightly above average host Eric Bachmann. My Co host is the patron saint of fantasy football diso, Dave Grzelak. Tonight, we have a very special episode for you. It is the twenty twenty football guys Players Championship live on the high stakes fantasy football, our draft, and we will be covering it for the next two hours. You can follow the draft board at Youtube Dot Com. Slash high stakes fantasy football. You can obviously chime in and send your messages to us in the chat room right now, myself our mutual friend rob and producer, and my best friend and audio engineer. Brice will be monitoring those as well as the emails that you send a high stakes fantasy football at gmail.com to try to get to them through out the next one, hundred and twenty minutes of broadcast and I if you want to connect with us on twitter, we are at hss at Eric Balk at David Zach. You can post on our facebook page at facebook dot com slash h except our if you. have any questions for US send them in. Now the earlier the better we'll try to get to all of them in our fantasy feedback segment that we were going to be conducting throughout the show tonight as a reminder ladies gentlemen if you're looking for some fantasy football action as we're about a month out from the start of the regular season, my F- P. C dot Com is indeed your home. We got the Terminator Tournament, the Super Bracket Tournament, the Terminator Satellites, the Best Ball best ball slim's the football guys, Players Championship, and of course, the F., FCC main event along with some dynasty startups. There as well, and if you already have an F. FCC main event team, remember you can get a huge hookup on your additional teams there four hundred dollars off each additional team that you add on. We are ten days away from the next early drafts lot announcement. So if you want to start plotting your way to a half million dollar grand prize, make sure you are getting in while the getting's good. My F. FCC DOT COM tonight's lineup here for the football guys Players Championship live on the h. s. f. our hitting leadoff tonight it is pound for pound Wayne Ferguson Longtime Fifa P. C. high-stakes? Chris Carlson drafting seconds and I a former guest of the. Hour, and the road of his high stakes lowdown. Then Staff Alina is picking third. Jimmy Wagner is going to be drafting board still waiting for of is to post his episode this week on the high stakes low number two you've heard him on these airways before he is drafting fourth, the defending champ and looking for his third title in this league is Bip Lab Mandel. Drafting fifth his good Buddy John. Terry Answer Mima drafting six tonight Dean Sykes, and Jim Corcoran are drafting seventh there the fire dogs franchise and then our good buddy ray Chung contacting us from Hong Kong I was communicating with Ray Chunk earlier in the day I don't know what time it is in Hong Kong, but I believe he's going to try to reach. US tonight. Draft, so it could be super early super late I'm not sure. I'm not a geography major as is clear. Three. Now, nine zero five am in Hong in Hong Kong Saturday August is Dave. What do you call a guy who majors in like the study of insects and spiders and ants in anything with six legs are very tiny wasp guy. Okay. He is drafting tonight in the ninth spot the truth. Warrior himself Hudson Current Re Picking Knight Frank Inborn nonni is selecting ten four guests on the I. You know we just had these guys on the except for less than two months ago David Avetisyan and Jeff Hirschhorn are picking eleven ended of course Liz Ballard. Is Going to be picking twelve tonight I'm GONNA head to the action right now that you can watch YouTube dot com slash high stakes fantasy football no surprise win Ferguson goes with Christian McCaffrey number one, Chris Carlson Select Saquon Barkley add to Ben Staff Lino is on board with Ezekiel Elliott at three and then Jimmy Wagner taking Alvin Kamara at for Jimmy Wagner by the way I'm trying to think they've in the process of the very first pros vs Joes we had a couple of weeks ago I feel like Jimmy Wagner took Alvin Kamara at the to spot. he might have done I think he did it. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that he took command that use by. All right. So Alvin Kamara goes to. Delve Delvin Cook Excuse me Yikes. School. Trying to get ready to say bip lead Mandel. Alvin Kamara fell close Alvin Kamara followed by Delvin Camaro Aka Delvin. Cook at the five spot tonight to Mandell and then miles sanders. I surprised the night. He goes to John Kerry at the one. Oh six Michael Commerce falls to the fire dogs that sites and corporate on at the one. Oh seven and then you have ray. Chung leading off the tight end selections tonight at one Oh wait with Travis Kelsey I can't believe I'm phrasing it this way quite Edwards Hilar- Dave falls to the one nine to Hudson Reeve here as he leaves his off his draft with rookie running valley from Kansas City allegedly George kiddle to Frank Inborn. Nonni at the one fan tyreek Hill. off the board to evidence and at the one eleven and then Derrick Henry the one twelve to Liz Ballard. Let's analyze this first round for anybody who had not listened to the pros vs Joes League that we had covered for the last two weeks, which by the way, if you are looking for some analyses on those processes, jobs the F. FCC email that went out today lists I think five or six recaps of individual leagues in they're seeking catch up on that to see what went down the thought process behind that that said my F- F- PC DOT COM slash F F P blog. No, it's just my effect PC. Dot Com slash blog. You can check that out there. All right. So getting into the first round Dave. Where we talked about this, where does he fall in among the top running backs in the in the FCC draft? This year is he among the top four? The top five is going at the right spot here tonight to the Truth Warrior Himself Reeve at the one where would you draft them? I'd probably be looking at a different player than him I. You know I might take him in that nine, seventy, nine, I think I the last time we talked you ask me this question similarly to I. Thought Nine Eleven twelve and I think at nine I'm looking at taking him yeah. I think that seems all right. I. Mean the other guys McCaffrey Berkeley Elliott Chimera Cook are awesome. They're BELCO for the most part and they're proven. Edwards hilarious absolutely unproven in the NFL and miles sanders is partially proven. So he gets a little bit of a bump and then you have the Derek countries and Joe Missions have a few other minor awards Henry's pass catcher mixing s to deal with the not the best offense although that might be changing. So I can make the argument that those guys are on par with Solaire, who has his own question marks mostly inexperienced but he walks into a fantastic situation. Of course do you think the Bengals offense improves this year then with borough and Higgins and so on and so especially? Okay. I'm just Kinda curious here. As we look at this do you think Edwards Hilar- at that one? Oh, nine is he being drafted as ceiling? Where would his feeling be Is it top three top four feeling yourself out for me. Okay. And that's why people are taking them and I think that that there's a possibility nothing else for me from the first round bio sanders at the one. Oh, six, I think you would be going elsewhere with that although. You know I'm GonNa take that back. You have kind of come around on. Mile Sanders a little bit as far as what he's going to turn out fantasy owners in twenty twenty I. Don't know if you've come around to him to select them in the middle of the first round. Oh. Yeah. That's just a tough call. I don't think I would take Michael Thomas I would look at Kelsey would you rather have Mile Sanders Michael Thomas. Prior I'd rather as I'll sanders and Michael. Really. Okay. All right. So I'm not I'm not I. I think Thomas Regrets is obviously I'm not a big believer in taking a wide receiver in the first round when you're when you're running back running back, drop off after those top guys so I don't know I don't think I would take Michael Time there's some wide receiver value to be had later and your opinion. Okay. All right. Interesting if when you get to pick thirteen, let's consider how many chiefs of undrafted at that point or pick fourteen issues. I was picked fourteen. Yeah. We have three off the board. Is that accurate Gordon? The top twelve zero yeah. So just I'm GONNA lead into this in the second round here for chiefs skill position players Yeah Travis Costa at the one to Ray Chung the pick after that to Kern Reeve at the one Oh, nine was quite Edwards and you Patrick Mahomes oh, excuse me tyreek Hill. This is four. This is four chiefs school position players tyrod kill to the one eleven obviously to advocacy and her short, and then they all they get the stack there with Patrick, Mahomes at the two zero, two tonight they go hill and the homes have we ever seems to seven of the first fourteen. When time we've seen this I I don't I don't recall ever seeing four players from one team going the top thirteen picks four. That's. Fourteen I must be especially when you consider the opt-out deadlines behind US whatever but you had five chiefs out for Kansas City this year, and you had two of them playing the same position which not only would affect mahomes affect quite awards layer as well. Yeah. That's pretty nice. Yeah So team me Williams product for what it's worth from his mother has stage four cancer and I think that's part of the reason he opted out I don't think. That he would, and by the way, who's the next guy after Damian Williams. That affected fantasy dress funchess. Yeah it's been. It's been so muted. In fact, you could. One could argue that if this thing wasn't going on, you have full practice, full practice camps in minicamps and all that stuff. They're probably a way more injuries would have happened actually have been right people laughing point you know been a little bit saved although news tonight about. again, and we'll get to that. We'll get to that when he doesn't he gets auto drafted on accident maybe when the starting running back from the Washington football team, we don't know well, we're about to find out today I. Guess we're in the So you look at and just say this about the whole opt-out thing far be it for me. Dave to accuse here, players get on your on so to accused the players of doing something that they shouldn't be doing but I, looked at the doubtless sixty, six total players opt out in the NFL mostly what you were on the list that was my point. Sorry what you have a three, hundred, fifty, thousand dollars stipend that you get if you're a high risk player. I mean I eat fat. If you're like a fat, I wouldn't say fat but like immuno-compromised cancer diabetes. Family member who has any of those fine. But also three hundred fifty pounds I think you're GONNA be classified as high risk because you're fat. I'm not disagreeing But. You look at the players that opted out and I don't want accuse the players of this. But I think there's a lot of guys that were on the borderline of being cut that shows you know what it was because even if I don't get the three, hundred, fifty, thousand dollars should being a high risk and get a hundred fifty grand if I opt out because she jury now you that maybe the kiss of death in your NFL career by the way because when you look at what these teams are GonNa do twenty twenty one when things are quote unquote normal. You could have a bunch of rookies and a bunch of players that did not take the year off and but you know that will be competing for a spot, and then these seems could look at you know you guys were three different practice squads over the last two years. You guys were not pedigree players. You guys took a year off from football. So they it. Is a gamble. It is a roll of the dice here for a lot of these players that opt out and I think they're just trying to cash in on on on what they can do in the future Henry Muto by the way in the chat room right now says he believes they don't get to keep the one, hundred, fifty, thousand dollars he thinks only alone. So these players could be you know, end up owing the NFL over this decision as well. If that's true I don't know if it's true or not, but I certainly don't WanNa doubt Henry. Muto. No comment. No comment. All right. Perfect. I'M GONNA. Get your. I'M GONNA get Dave comments on the second round here. As we move on Joe Mixing at the third the one excuse me to a one I was about to say the one thirteen. Fourteen th. This is at demon semen for Liz. Ballard live Ballard named Joe. Mixing at the at the two old one tonight Patrick Mahomes. Spew it out, right? Yeah. Happy to do it tonight. It's GONNA be Weird. Know I do seventies in the row stuff happening. All right. So Patrick Mahomes at the two zero, two tonight to the beef of Cucamonga that is advocacy and and Hirschhorn Demonte Adam. Slips the two or three tonight to Franko born Nonni current read goes Kenyan drake in the second round here at the two four followed by Nick to Ray. Josh Jacobs to the Fire Dogs Fire Dogs Franchise is Sites Inc, and then you're looking at Julio, Jones, Lamar, Jackson, and Adler. who Jones off the board to John's Harry Lamar Jackson to bip lab Mandela's he starts off with Cook and Jackson Eh color to Jimmy Wagner, and then you have a sandwich running back Sandwich Oreo. If you will De'andre Hopkins to been staff Lino Aaron Jones slips all the way to the to eleven tonight to Chris Carlson and then Chris Godwin off the board to Wayne. Ferguson. As he goes Christian and Chris. Godwin for his first two picks he doesn't Christian and God Yeah Gingko wrong there right yeah but except for he drafted a bear in the third round, I'm ordering for him. Is that all right so you look at the second round Dave, anything stand out to you I guess Aaron. Jones slipped a little bit. The Andrea Hopkins continues to fall I. Guess we can talk about that a little bit because there is a history of. Receivers start or not going to a new team and not playing up to what they had previously for their original team. So Hopkins is the guy that I'm not necessarily in fact I. looked at this today I've drafted the Andrea Hopkins in one league and was prior to his trade. To the Arizona, cardinals like ten. Banner Time and draft before he was traded I look at where he's going right now. You know where he went tonight for instance to ten where would you start getting on board with Hopkins on a new team Kyla Murray in. Arizona. Are you again and that type of rain I'm still look I'm personally still looking at running back. That's just really okay happiness. You even have hopkins available. Yes. I mean I I like Aaron Jones I liked girly I like for now. So those are all available. I think I'm passing on Hopkins and Budding someone else take them and that's fine. You know he could have a heck of a season. That's totally fine with me. Let me ask you a question here What if Hopkins was still on the Texans and he's still had to Shawn Watson throwing them in the same offense that he was accustomed to would that change your your mind on? That's what I would consider him more. But I don't think you would totally change. Wow, there's this interesting you. It's fine I mean. But yeah. With having the stability of the same team same offense. Yeah. I think I would have to think about it for sure. Okay and and by the way he probably won't be available there probably. As we look at the studio. Interesting that you know almost all the pros vs Joes Leagues Either Mahomes or Lamar Jackson. revealed will probably about three, one, zero, two, three, or three. So one of the two were out here you did not even have that opportunity as late as the two eight to nine. So he wanted to away. So to nine later those guys were gone. Well, let's get into the third round here. Tonight Win Ferguson kicks off the third round with Alan Robinson is his number two receiver couple of running. Backs off the board. Chris Carlson Takes Todd Gurley he starts off running back running back running back to begin the S. up our draft tonight Leonard Four? Net off. The Board has been staff knows number two running back Ju Ju Smith Schuster number one receiver for Jimmy Wagner followed by Mark Andrews. So once again, we get the hookup here with Lamar, Jackson and Mark Andrews this time going through this league's defending champion in Bip Mandell is he gets Jackson and Andrew Graciously named his team defending champion. I was thankful for that. Actually to when I was doing my research on this Melvin Gordon off the board right after that to John Terry as his number two running back to pair with the after mentioned Miles Sanders Zach Ertz whose real life teammate of Mile Sanders goes off the board to sites and corker on as their number to actually be number one number four off the board tonight James Connor to raise Chung Mike. Evans. To Kern read followed by Kenny Golladay to Frank Inborn Nonni. Chris Carson will be the number one rusher at least if the draft. stock in this Chris Carson with the number on Russia for the beef of Cucamonga. That is, of course, David, advocacy and and Jeff Hirschhorn, and then Amari. Cooper wrapping up at the third round here as the number one receiver to Demons Demon Liz. Ballard. Team I WANNA head out to the seven one eight after we have three rounds in the books here tonight and go out to those airways. Who is this you're on the air with Dave and bulky on the chess f our. Up Players. Triple j Jim Wagner what's going on guys? Man, is good to hear from you. It is good to see you in one of these drafts again tonight. So at the number so we had talked about this on the high stakes lowdown, which I thought would be out by now rotavirus should be publishing at this weekend at the at the latest but we had talked about what you did it pros vs Joes at the number two spot and you're in a situation tonight at the four where you kind of had to look for value there right you. You couldn't go off the board off ADP you had to go with who you thought there and I feel like you were pretty happy with Alvin Kamara, right? One Hundred Percent Look Alvin. Alvin Kamara has a good season I'm going to be in the money on a lot of leaks. Alvin Kamara has a bad season and it's going to be one of those years. It's it's real. I'm sold I Mary and. The. Saints. I I'm with you on that I've drafted Jimmy are extremely Shimmy Wagner I have not Jimmy. Wagner in any leaks I've drafted obviously in a lot of leagues this year I think he's in for a bounceback for sure you get to the second round here tonight Jimmy Austin Ecuador was still around. Did you did you think he might have a chance of slipping there because he hadn't I who all? That was a hard. That was a hard choice to make because I really wanted the Andre. Hopkins they're like I was. But I couldn't do it. I couldn't pull the on Hopkins. He's on a new team new qb No preseason. Man I really wanted to and I'm probably you know regret it but. I had to go with Equa and and I'm happy with epic I'm happy that he fell to me but I was it was a tough call. You probably hoping honestly instead of bip lead Mandel taking Lamar Jackson there that he would take either hopped. And make the decision. Easy right. One hundred percent one hundred percent I was sitting there I'm actually like a discord what a couple of guys and I was one hundred percent onboard with Lamar Jackson their. Tall and I don't think we've talked about this at all as we're talking with Jimmy wavering, you follow him on twitter at triple J's fantasy report a guy who's won a lot of money over the years in the F. FCC main event, the football guys player Shamsher your third round here your third round pick Jimmy. You Take Juju Smith Schuster at the three or four. Tell us why you think he is a good announced back candidate this year I obviously with the return of Rothlisburger but there's probably more to. It's you're right I. Am I am one hundred percent committed on Ju. Ju. I think you know if you're going to be taking wide receiver in the first twenty four picks. I have no problem speaking, Juju the kid has a ton of talent last year Pittsburgh just had bad luck with injuries. All everywhere all across the board. I'm fully banking on the full bounceback, Ben. Rothlisberger, we'll be back throwing up bombs to do and. I think I got wide receiver one value in the third round here, and I would have no problem drafting him with the likes of Julio. Jones. Sure. Many Times this Julio Jones got burn fantasy football players before we stopped drafting him in the first four picks. It's all the touchdown though, right because it continues to put up catches and yardage it. Just you hit them last year he had him last year but you look I mean this, this is a guy who's in his thirties dave and and for the most part has let us down because of the lack of touchdowns and I think that's the problem with a lot of fantasy owners that shy away from him in. The first round well, now, you can get him here in the mid second and it makes sense there Jimmy. You did not have the opportunity to make this decision in the fourth, but had it been one pick differently you could've picked between Robert Woods and Cooper Cup. Now you ended up going with Cooper Cup as far as rams receivers. You had your pick between both of them. Is it still cup over woods? It's still up over would it's the only look? I just the only thing that scares me Kupa Cup is the injury history. I mean, the guy seems last year he got banged out at the end. I am I don't know I just feel like He's the GO-TO guy down there. Jimmy quite Edwards Hilar- tonight goes at the one on nine. Do you feel like that's where he will be going when the F. FCC main event really heats up coming up in a couple of weeks or do you think he's going to go higher or lower? I. He's not I. I was surprised I've seen him go that high I've seen them going I found in the pros vs Joes. I'm just not touching that high up. I'm just not comfortable with it I think that's way too risky. And You know it. He he could end up making some people a lot of money I'm just not. I'm just not feeling it. I'm just not that high. You are coming up on your sixth round pick here at the six Oh nine. You already have two running backs, two receivers anti on a well-balanced squad. What are you thinking here in the sixth round Jimmy as you try to continue to build what could be league here? I think I'm on the clock right now. I am I'm real torn I was hoping Moser from the forty niners was gonNA stick around. But in this round six looking for the value. I'M GONNA have to start. I'm going to have no option I'M GONNA have to start moving to flex position. I I'm feeling T. Y. Hilton. Right. Is he still there let me. I'm pretty. I don't see him selected so you can. You can pick them here. No question Jimmy. The thing is, with Hilton, this year as well not even this year but Dave, this is a guy that I have shied away from I. Don't know about you because I always viewed him as a big play type guy but that's not accurate because he is he is the number one receiver. He's been the number one receiver getting number one targets when he's healthy and you look at this year Philip rivers a veteran. QUARTERBACK should be able to pipe the ball to T. Y. Hilton as we look here in at six rounded Jimmy normally by the way over the last four days in in the football guys Players Championship t y Hilton normally goes six four. This is this is actually a little bit almost a half Brown. Virginia I was sitting here. And you guys on the phone. Normally what I do is I pulled player up on, you know one of the million websites out there and just check make sure everything's still legit and now I'm looking T. Y. Hilton soft hamstring injuries. So that's probably why he dropped tonight. But fortunately for us in the summer he. Yeah he he'll be fine I think and I think it was actually not a bad pick because he had a big tight end and running back run having right in front of you. So and Kinda you know what do you WanNa. Happy like the twelfth guy that take a running back. You know what? I mean out of those let. Me Say listen who is. Nobody. Nobody I felt happy with six round value with who is left. So we'll see guys. Any for the questions avoid I'm going to get back and concentrated on the Strip later. Him either me. Just missed the playoffs. I was so mad at myself man. So this year I definitely got to win the whole league. I. Appreciate the time. Guys Jimmy. Jimmy good, luck to you. We appreciate you calling in. That is Jimmy Wagner at triple J's fantasy report on twitter guy that you can listen to on the road of his high-stakes slowdown this week like peanut butter is to Jelly T. Y.. Hilton. Is Too soft tissue injuries and that is the reason that Jimmy got him. So late tonight whatever yeah and an investment well worth taking in the sixth round Dave giving his talent and the offense their. Most well, I'm just telling you that's all I feel. Listen if I draft T, Y Hilton this year, which I will I am totally re resigned to the fact that he will not play sixteen game season. Know you say that all the time and then you had most of the time I'm right? Yeah sometimes. Janine Jones. Last year I don't know anybody. I don't think so but I think all heading. Hey. Listen he goes. Aaron Jones or enjoy the full season listen that well, he did play one full season but I'll tell you this coming into the twenty nineteen season two out of the last three years he ended on injured reserve with knee injuries I will. So that's the fact that that is a fact and I will issue those areas really mean is pretty it's no and it doesn't maybe I could get screwed on it and quite frankly last year I did and also this year I've got him like four teams already. So I'm sure he's going to go down with a knee injury and he was on. User. So here's how I'm sure of it Dave. I G Dillon two zero t there. All right moving out of the Fourth Round here, Ladies Gentlemen Odell Beckham leading things off at the four one to Liz. Ballard Levian Bell right after that to Avedis CNN Hirschhorn and then you have David Johnson the number one rusher four Frank Inborn Oni. TJ More to Reeve. After I feel like current takes Dj more and a lot of leagues my wrong about better. I mean he's. He's a smart fellow. All right. So they dj more into Kern, read their Adam feeling the pick right after that as the number one receiver to Ray Chung. Then you're looking at Jonathan Taylor a guy may have gotten in my Kentucky dynasty draft tonight no idea Dave and we'll check that before we go off the air tonight if I remember good old Kentucky you good. Okay. Not The only place where does live rookie drafts to? Read you occasionally seven, seventy, five second clock. By the way I'm not sixty or ninety five, she does offer them but we wait until the very end if you're dire and desperate, here's what inches which and by the way we love Kentucky I don't want to make it seem like we're ripping on we know it's not does not suck it also worth Dave and I are both flying down there along with former Kentucky overall chapter at all, it is going to be a great time. One thing we're the nice. The Nice thing is that we are flying down we usually have arrived on Curtis flying. Okay Buddy would raise getting knee surgery. So he's a- docs. Yeah. He's on the opt-out with and at two packer is having some sort of first convenient for one of his daughters or what's going on with that here's what I read So Jonathan Hair but sort of not really Jonathan Taylor is the final non receiver taken in the fourth round. We will miss him at bulky. What are you talking about and I say this the last six picks of the fourth round here. Tonight, all receivers Calvin Ridley to join Perry Robert Woods the lab Mandel Cooper Cup to Jimmy Decay, metcalf, staff, Terry maclaurin to Chris Carlson, and then DJ chart to Wayne. Ferguson Dave let's look at these receivers. You know a question I'm GonNa ask you Ridley. Ridley, woods COP. Metcalf maclaurin chart if you had the choice of any of those where you can picking. I think for just just just like I'll just go first here on this one. This is kind of appreciate that this kind of obvious and it's the easy way out but I think it is Ridley for me even though he was the first one aboard. Yeah I was GONNA say the same thing that Kinda wanted to not say that but I have I think I kind of have to You know they're all there. You can make the argument that there I don't find fixing various ways. I don't necessarily dislike any of them. Okay. That right now that's kind of you know I. I can't get. I can't say Oh, this I thought this was terrible. was interesting the trying to get him on first before all those guys? I. Like that. Too, but I can totally see the argument mean feeling himself I mean he he was crushing it I mean with and without digs there I feel like he's never tremendous season high for many draft philosophy standpoint I know you're not a big Beckham Guide this year there are nine receivers. Guy In general. Okay. Because they worked with there were nine receivers chosen in the fourth round. I can definitely get on board with any of these nine in the fourth. There's no I don't think there is one I know you probably would say, well bulky I wouldn't take it back on there but for me for all those receivers I could totally I will probably myself not cross any of these guys off when it comes to me in the fourth round, I can see these guys excellent fourth round picks. Yeah and I think veteran players like this. That's why they went where they went I mean they all a Lotta of fixed. Make a lot of big makes sense. Guys are motoring on here. Sorry to cut you off Dak Prescott at the five Oh one tonight as third quarterback off the board to win. Ferguson Mark Ingram to Chris Carlson Paulo by Kareem Hunt to Vince Staff Darren Waller is the number five tight end. He is the starter Jimmy Wagner here in the fifth round trio receivers then Tyler Lockett to lead Mandel AJ Brown John Terry, and Cortlandt Sutton to sykes and to corker on there in the middle of the fifth round then you're looking at Ingram as the number six off the board and the. team to back up his tight end is rate Chung to Travis Kelsey. In the first, he gets Evan Engram in the fifth down David Montgomery to Kern re followed by Ronald Jones to Franken born nonni. You're looking Keenan Allen to Avetisyan, and Hirschhorn, and then JK Dobbins wraps up Liz Ballard's fifth round as that is the number three running back off the. Board, let's keep things going here as Ballard goes back to back rookie running backs Dobbins in the fifth cam acres at the so one that makes it three straight running backs that are rookies this year as evidentiary hirschhorn take the Andrea Swift number three rusher. Hayden hearse will be backing up George Kettle. For Frank, Inborn Nonni squad at the six Oh three tonight collar. Murray fourth quarterback. Kern re followed by Devin single terry to Rachel and rehim mustard to the fire dogs franchise at the six zero six. Tonight. Tyler. Oh, that tyler higby is going to be the number seven tight end off the board and that he goes to John Terry. Here is his starter and then all receivers for the remainder of the six round Marquees Brown to Bit Lab Mandel T. Y. Hilton as a number three receiver for Jimmy Wagner devante Parker number three receiver four, Vince Staff Lino, and then Aj Green and anti. Johnson. Wrap up the six round. Aj Green by the way the number two receiver tonight for Chris Carlson as he has a maclaurin AJ green start. Let's go out to the eight five six to take another phone call here tape. Tonight you are on the air with a high stakes fantasy football, our Dave and bulky coming at you who is this? this is Dave and Jeff checking in from the dress. Picking from the eleven spot tonight the beef of Cucamonga. Yeah. What's the team team naming Dan Phelps the story There little plays on grateful dead songs with the word beef and for. No real meaning. That's good. I. See. We're. We're getting. Let's. Yeah let's talk about this. A what picks were you sniped on tonight David is you guys were drafting from eleven spot? well, early on we lost we're looking at Connor and Mel Gordon. We were hoping for them to fall in the third round We're happy with Chris Cards and Embel- We're not thrilled with Tina now, and actually when we checked in last time in our call, we told you that we trying to avoid them. But he was the best receiver. Yeah. Yeah, we ended up taking kid. Yeah when it came to your first round pick with with tyreek kill you guys had to be pretty thrilled with that. Right. I mean I know like devante atoms typically goes ahead of them but I'll tell you this Scott fishbowl this year ahead the decision between Adams and hill and I also went with hill over Adams. It was definitely our plan wanted to Jesus sack was. Yeah. It was our plan we were. We were looking at Mile Sanders and Clyde Edwards, but that did not. They they didn't fall into our hands. So we went with plan B which was to Stack Hill and the homes, and we're pretty happy with that something different for us. Yeah I know I like. It's interesting too because we were covering the pros vs joes drafts the past couple of weeks and I think number four this past Sunday saw Chris Carson and Levian bill go both going in the fifth round you guys grabbed them in the third and Fourth tonight as your your starting running backs, and while I know that that wasn't the same value I gotta believe with the volume that you're going to get from Carson and bell. Those seem like smart decisions you guys as you try to win this league. Yeah. They were our. Options. The best options, and then there was a run many receivers taken. There's huge runs of receivers in this draft. Just, curious on this and and Jeff pose this question to you guys around the clock in the sixth round you you ended up taking De'andre Swift at the six Oh to what's interesting about that pick is the two picks previous both running backs where you guys you guys already made up your mind on swift or or did you have your eye on one of those other rushers in Dobbins or acres there? was any one of those three? Dogs it was he was swift ranger on. Awhile. Donald maybe. Next year. So is it just the Mark Ingram factor that has you guys shying away from JK Dobbins this year Jeff. And that's it. I just didn't know much about. To make. Swift. Debut guys ended up waiting until the seventh round take time which we'll get to shortly but it ends up being offense there, and I only ask this because I have I've been in a couple of tight end premium leagues this year and and I ended up I waited on tight end as well and ended up with Noah fans as my number one tight end tell the listeners and whether they're drafting in football guys, players championship or the F. FCC general why nor fan is not a bad tight end to fall back on if you wait on the position. Honestly I reading a lot about him that, and that's the reason that we went that that route I wanted to be but I know there's no way we're getting in. So what I've been reading about flying researching about him, I liked them. We haven't humming general join played under. Yeah. Well, which would make sense with then th the. So just just kind of. Jeff I'll I'll throw this question. You just Kinda in general when you're drafting and and premiums leagues do you guys feel like you normally wait on Friday just as a rule? Not. The last couple of years this is the first year we've actually waited it's it's never worked out for us ever drift until it ends early Even appointed after just not work not for US I can't speak for other people are not in the first round. We had trouble when we pick a tight and we have we have difficulty filling spots later joined read with downfall. You with a lot of people out. There that right now, he was mine to in several leagues. So that makes sense there. All right. We're coming up. We're coming up at nine eleven here pick for you guys Tell us who you're thinking about not only at the nine eleven but as we move forward into the ten or to what are you guys looking at here on the turn Well we just backed up the Andrea Swift with Kerryon Johnson because we were looking at Iran are so we may as well have a cough. And we're hoping to I, guess play play another receiver and assuming that the next two picks or clear. We're hoping for a Jamison crowder the full our way. So. Jimmy. He's gone. Oh No, we'd better. Yeah. We're. GonNa. I. Shepard or Williams. Take. On. Yeah. He's just went right to work. We're going to go with me. Now she's not. She's she's all set on this one We'll know if she takes Preston Williams here. At the tunnel and I, but I don't I see it happening. It's a well balanced team Dave and Jeff that you have here you're looking at four hunchback's three receivers quarterback and tight end, and then coming up I it is Preston Williams here. So you do get four receivers gentlemen I certainly appreciate always hearing from the both of you. Thank you so much for not only participating in this draft, but for chiming in with US tonight good luck in football guys, players, championship, all your leagues this year. Gentlemen. H both guys and good luck on the Press Williams pick. Say. I have a good wanted by. That was Dave Avetisyan and Jeff Hirschhorn Ladies and gentlemen. Tonight guests on the HSF are roughly about two months ago They came on one a lot of money in this contest over the years, and this could be another incident of them. Winning a lot of money tonight as they try to dethrone bit black Mandel as the champion of this league moving for Dave. Where did we leave off here I feel like it was the six Oh one. Talking about yeah. I don't think we got some most sure. No Oh no I think. We got we got deeper. Yeah. No. So here's what happened. We get to the higby pick at the six or seven tonight to John Terry and then there's a bunch of receivers marquees Brown dip lead Mandel. T. Y. Hilton to Jimmy. Wagner devante. Parker. Have Been Staff. Lino Aj Green to Chris. Carlson, and pay Johnson to Wayne Ferguson moving onto the seventh round. Ferguson Goes Torri. Cohen. As his number two running back here at the seven. Zero one. Wide Receiver run here. Tyler Boyd Chris Carlson is his number three Michael Gala to been staff we know as number four Julian Cattleman as the number four to Jimmy Wagner and then you have to find I'm Mandel will fuller the number four receiver to John Terry See Hunter Henry go off the board after that to the seven zero, seven selection. That is dean. Sykes and Jim Corker on there and they backup Zach Ertz with Hunter Henry Jarvis Landry to Ray Chunk Paula by Rob Gronkowski to Kern Rivas. His starting tight end James White to frank. Inborn, nonni backtrack tight end finish off the seventh round seven eleven. No offense to advocacy and and Hirschhorn. Mike. Just sticky to Liz Valor here to any seven from. I'm in the mortar through the eighth and ninth is best that I can't hear as these guys are professional drafted. Yeah I'm trying to be Brandin cooks is the number three receiver who lives Ballard Dairy Slayton at the eight Oh two tonight. To Avetisyan and Hirsch is their number three receiver. Sean Vaughan number four rusher four, Frank Inborn Nonni. Ronald Jones. He does own. Thank you for pointing that out Jerry Judy a guy you like this year to current read off the Board at eight or four, and then a bunch of running backs and Antonio Gibson Ray Chung Alexander Madison to Sites in Corcoran? Who Do not own Calvin Cook Jordan Howard off the board to John Terry Matt Breda to bip Lab Mandel followed by Philip. Lindsey to. Honor. A tight end wide receiver sandwich here jared cook to been Steph Lino Marvin Jones Chris Carlson and TJ Hopkinson starting tight end four Wayne Ferguson at the twelve and then right after that, Kevin? Coleman the San Francisco. Forty. niners running back is the nine one to Ferguson tonight as his number three rusher Russell Wilson calling the signals tonight four Chris Carlson and all season long his number one quarterback back to back titensor staff Lino Cook in the Eighth Dallas scattered at the nine three Sony Michelle to Jimmy Wagner followed by Zach Moss to Bip Lab Mandel. Does not own Devon, single Terry Number One quarterback drafted by John Terry is the Shawn Watson. Here at the nine zero, six Jamison crowder and Christian Kirk to Sykes Corcoran and Chung respectively. Then you have Austin Hooper backing up gronk for Kern Reeves Sterling Shepard off the board of Franken born nonni carry on Johnson who you heard live on the HSF our here with Avetisyan hirschhorn and then Johnny Smith backing up Liz Ballard's Mike just sickie here in the ninth round a lot of backup titans Dave so far as. We look at this you're already looking at six teams with backup tight ends through nine rounds will that change going forward as far as pushing tight ends up only time will tell and my voice which we will go onto in the tenth round here Tony Pollard to Ballard Preston Williams you heard that advocacy and then Hirschhorn the Andre Washington the supposed- handcuffed to Frank Inborn Nonni here not that's not the inborn nonni handcuff. That is the cloud Edwards Hilar- handcuff in Kansas City the Andrea Washington ten or three tonight. Off The board he's moving up the tunnel afford occuren- reef. You Have Jalen Ray or to Ray Chunk Paulo by Carson Wentz the number one quarterback for the eagles. And the number one quarterback for the fire dogs that incites and Jim Corker on do Johnson the backup running back who did not go to the David Johnson team. Tonight that is John. Terry tonight at ten seven followed by Daryl Henderson part of the glut of running backs going on in Los Angeles for the rams he goes to lab Mandel. Blake Sherwin will indeed back there in Waller for Jimmy Wagner, you have Emmanuel Sanders the brand New Orleans Saints The new New Orleans St. here at the ten ten tonight been. The Murray has real life teammate goes at ten eleven to Chris Carlson followed by the rookie wide receiver for the Dallas cowboys CD LAMB as the number five pass catcher or wide receiver I should say for Wayne Fergus yeah. Coming up. That is a lot of picks together. That's I. could have gone to the bathroom. I should really go on used Joe you totally sh should've to celebrate I'm GonNa go to the six one two tonight Dave which I could be wrong on this but I believe we're talking to the defending champion. Yes. Very very possible I. Don't know we're gonNA find out right now you're on the air with having bulky who's this? Hey guys. This is club. Notorious VIP is in the house. What would I know one this league there? Was it indeed the notorious B I P or did was it rainmaker? Was it something else? I don't remember. I think it was not as be and I stopped using that name because all I was getting worse and eleven twelve picks with that name. Kidding me but I. I know. I agree. But I still think there's something with the randomized and there are certain names that work. Out Names Yeah. You gotTA call it like to pack or easy e or something like that and I think they. Were more west coast easy. Be I know we're based in New York but we're more of a west coast rapper type total west coast when it comes to the gangster rap yeah it's not even a question. Juice team. Gas. Tang is totally secondhand gangster rap for us this forget it. It's not even a question. All right tip how so you're you're drafting tonight from the five spot we are more than halfway through what kind of grade would you give your team thus far as you are eleven picks in. I would say I'm doing okay I. Probably missed out on a running back with coq early but you know in this draft, I have a lot of folks I know like when? John And draft a lot with them and I knew that you know I have to change my strategy bait because they know players I love I know players they love and you know it was going to be difficult and that's one reason why Iran Lamar and Andrew Stack I typically don't do this you know. But when you draft twenty teams, this is probably the only team where you do that I love otherwise going running back every early and then up receivers. So. That's the only piece I missed out. But I thought I got some good value with digs later and I like my receivers tax. So I just need to hate on running back lead or in the waiver and I should be fine. I mean Lamar Jackson himself is equal to player so I you. Yeah I'm totally with you on that bit Blab you. You know you. You talked about the Jackson Andrew you also took Hollywood Brown suddenly huge Marquees, Brown in the six round tonight if you didn't already own Jackson and Andrews, would you have gone a way there or with the with the Hollywood Brown selection independent what you already had in your squad? No it it it was independent at that stage. You know I would have probably NTN island or him but as a receiver three I like the side of Hollywood Brown there so that that's why I rent with him. you know yeah it was respective and I didn't want to patch t way over there. So. One and the thing. That's Nice as you've got markey's from, but she didn't really have to overpay. Got Him right where you normally go that was that worked out well, for people have when you're looking at the we asked this question and Jimmy Wagner earlier when when he had the, you know he ended up choosing Cooper. Cup. But you didn't leave him the decision. Why did you end up going with Robert Woods over Cooper Cup why is woods the better rams receiver to own this year over cup? Yep and I have them ranked pretty close you know. Almost I would say I wash but I'll tell you what I did here because I need some steady points on the receiver front and last year Cuper people down, you know the last half of the season he has the judy concern. So here I went for the floor than the upside and I love roads you know he didn't have enough touchdowns we should go I dearly this year. So I wanted guaranteed pass catcher and say for floor. So I took words in some other I might have gone up over words you know had I got an and Allen Robinson as receiver one. Talking with PIP lab Mandel the defending champion of this league you follow him on twitter at underscore underscore remain maker and speaking of rainmaker you made it rain with your seventh round pick tonight and on digs this is a guy who is normally going off the board at the six zero three over the last half week of football guys, Players Championship you get up to seventy five people have you can't tell this guy you were targeting. You had to be pleased as punch to see him there as your number four receiver in the seven. Absolutely. You know I was actually hoping deonte Johnson Tyler, Boyd failed there. But they didn't, and again you know I rent Hollywood Brown because you know I wondered the site or there, and then you know I knew one of these guys would have fallen. So I was very happy to see dig that Honestly I didn't expect him there you know when it came back big love you end up your well, let's talk about your pick right now on the clock here at the thirteen o five, you have what is this five running backs on your squad your five receivers on your squad quarterback tight end what are you looking for here in the thirteen? I'm I'm going to go out I in here and take in Thomas. Yeah I was a place of Yeah he's taking the place of Greg Olsen certainly a a young up and comer this year what are the chances that he finishes and maybe it's not you know higher than fifty percent. But what are the chances that he can be a top ten tight end this year but laptop ten well. I think that is Great Chan. See you know he comes from a good school I do feel very good football player. He Act sit behind Olsen you know you have Teddy Bridgewater quarterback You. Don't really use the titans more whenever I've seen and Thomas C.. You know he's he's been decent. He's just not got the chance and right now at this stage you know it's all about back up. It's all about upside and you know he could end up easily having John Smith type season you know and a better season than Dallas Goethe. Back keeps doing his thing. So so I feel he has equal chance as any of those guys. In tight end that have gone in the nine throw. The final question before you let you, we let you concentrate back on the draft and I I'm just looking at your squad here you ended up taking Zach Moss and the night now Devon Single Terry was obviously off the board and the six. How do you see the buffalo running back touch with going this year between Single Terry and Moss? I still feel you know singled every you know I. Don't think they're fully committed into him otherwise they wouldn't have drafted Moss and you know it's Outta BBC league this year and again, look you know looking at this team you know I need to hit on someone else's handcuff for this team to go all the way, and that's where you know people like Moss or Darrell Henderson or you know even pass catching back like. Comes into play there are no rb ones or twos left. So it's all about upside now a single got hurt you know moss is pretty electric and he has that upside. Yup, totally agree with that. He is the pride of the Midwest Ladies and gentlemen you follow him on twitter at underscore underscore rainmaker. He has been blood Ben Del he's defending champion. This league has already wanted one year previous will he make it three years that he is the defending champion or excuse me three years that he's the champion in this league only time will tell dip lab we always appreciate hearing from you. Good luck in all your leagues this year we'll talk to you again soon we really appreciate you taking time out for us tonight. That thank you. Have a good day bye-bye. So much bit Blab Mandel as gentleman good stuff from him as always. Let's get back to the action as the kids say at the eleven on one. Marlin. Mac. Goes to win Ferguson followed by me. Call Hartman. Is it McCall her me call what would it's McCall right? That's that's what I would say McColl Hartman here at the eleven. Oh, to tonight followed by Matt Ryan the Number One quarterback drafted by Vince Staff Lino Chris. Herndon. Jimmy Wagner's collecting those ends. He gets Chris Herndon as his number three tight end here at the eleven afford night Mike Williams and Josh Allen to Mandel and to Terry respectively after that Henry rugs the rookie wide out for Las Vegas going to Sykes and corker on and then you have Boston Scott as the number five. For Rachana Deebo Samuel Guy was currently rehabbing an injury and will do so as the number four wide receiver for Kern, re back-back tight ends back back back former teammates here as Jack Doyle goes to Franken born Nonni and Eric Lebron's advocacy and and Hirschhorn. Justin Jefferson the former Kova listed Minnesota Vikings wide receiver is off the board and off the list here tonight at the eleven twelve to Liz Ballard. She goes back to back receivers. Here's John Brownlee. Twelfth round followed by Justin Jackson. Excuse me at twelve Oh to tonight Michael Pittman. The rookie receiver for the colts goes to. Frank. Inborn Nonni as he makes it back to back. With oil in Pitman here in the eleventh and. Brandon. Euch Dave off the board tonight now, I don't. I don't know. Did you see this tweet that was fired at me? No. Okay. So I'm sorry she added fantasy. Nasdaq. said Bulky. You're killing me with this. pronunciations, you know it is I- Euch. ESKIMO personally well, maybe it is. I don't know. I. I you went to Arizona State. I don't know how many Eskimos are there but I'm going to do my best at fantasy Nasdaq to pronounce it correctly and then. Brandon Tonight and he gets the. Samuel I was GONNA say went back to back niners receiver. So he has good to go there chase Edmunds the backup running back presumably for the Arizona Cardinals goes to ray chunk followed by Nikiel Harry off the board to the Fire Dogs Franchise at the twelve o six j Sternberg or the championship winner this year to John Terry. Thank you for listening to the HSF over John Terry and then you're looking at any time hines after that you heard that pick Talked about live year by Mandel Curtis Samuel and Golden Tate to Wagner and staff Lino Herb Smith number one tight end Chris. Carlson. That might be something we want to talk about as the draft goes on followed by Anthony Miller to win Ferguson to round out round twelve without further ado here's around thirteen ladies gentlemen professional drafters in action tonight. God bless you thirteen o one Carlos Hyde to Ferguson. The Sean? Jackson. Is the thirteen o two to Chris. Carlson. That is Chris is number six while. Receiver here in the Thirteenth Aj Dylan and Adrian Peterson the old and the new not respectively here at running back Dylan to staff Alina Peterson the presumably starting running back for the Washington football team to Jimmy Wagner here thirteen four eating Thomas your that pick live on the air tip lab Mandela. Thirteen, five followed by Bershad Perriman as the number five receiver for John. Terry Joshua Kelly rookie running back out of UCLA staying in La. As he goes to the dogs franchise at thirteen o seven back-to-back quarterbacks speaking of old and new. You Got Tom Brady to Ray Chung. You Got Joe Borough to Kern read followed by the voluntary Freeman to Frank Inborn Nonni, and then Hunter Renfro the Las Vegas Slot machine going to advocacy and Hirschhorn, and then Darren Evans to Liz Ballard with the final pick of the thirteenth round Hunter Renfro Mamie is going to be the Las Vegas Slot machine this year got some news on that this year Dave that or this week I should say that a rookie out of Alabama might be the Las Vegas Slot machine this year your team. Sorry about Henry Ragas playing the slot and having. you know the prosecutor rookie starting on on one side and then Williams starting the other side. So I mean I think that Renfro might be relegated to the fourth wide receiver spots which would certainly stink for Spanish value if that comes to be I I understand we have to take coaches at their word, but I also do understand it is Jon Gruden and this is a guy who his team into believing. He had covid nineteen last week day. Yeah Why would you do to show the seriousness of what they're dealing with he such an idiot I'm not saying he's an idiot, but I'm also saying I'm not subscribing to his line of thinking as it comes to that Weirdo he's he's just a Weirdo is a weird. You're putting that. Wrap your knuckles on the you know who does that but that would if you're with me because. We get the raiders on on on apart knocks back to back you retrieve a normal person team. You know you know Oh yeah. Yeah. That'd be cool. Did you see who hard knocks this year? By the way I did not it is two teams was the valet teams is the LA teams on hard knocks this year which I don't know when they're going to debut I know the packers I practice is August fifteenth. I'm not sure if that's congruent around the NFL I've been hearing that the so called non practices are Kinda right now are kind of practice. Did you hear this whole? Michigan Ohio State you? No. Okay. So it's just real quick khaki pants. Yes. He's always stirring up something. So the big ten headache conference call this week Ryan Day who's the head coach of Ohio State was talking about his team answering a question Jim Harbaugh Khaki. Pants. interrupts rind as question to question why there was a photograph of the Ohio State linebackers coach working with the Ohio State linebackers on the field this week, and we're this is the perfect Opportunity Ryan. Day said that was an old picture. I don't know what you're talking about. He said, you worry about your team I'll worry about. Which is totally at saying you're not allowed right now. Can't be working out on the field with with coaches. It's not allowed right now and then Ryan Day in a team meeting afterwards, he said to his teammates. Or to not to his teammates to his team to his players he said I hope the big ten has a mercy rule. In fact, this season because we're going to hang a hundred on Michigan. Great stuff from the Michigan Ohio. They never break the rules. They're always good urban Meyer. Mr Strafe. Moving on here in the fourteenth round, Dave leading things off. This is probably our unofficial quarterback round of the draft spark. Matthew. Stafford off the board Liz. Ballard as her starting signal caller followed by drew brees and Daniel Jones to advocacy and Hirschhorn. Inborn nonni respectively. Go ahead. Matt Stafford. Now. It's been. Matthew Stafford do you thought it was always Matthew Stafford? WAS IT Used to be like, Oh Matt Stafford thought that was now it's been now. Yeah I I. Am I can't comment on this because I always thought it was matthew staff. Anyway whatever yeah, it's not a big deal. It doesn't matter I'm just glad it doesn't have Cova that that's the biggest thing. Worse, happy to. His wife should be thrilled. Absolutely. All right. So. Moving on. So we had the two quarterbacks there yet. The niners defense Dave. The first time we talked about defense since revelations genesis apocalypse refreshing we have a defense off the board here to Kern read in the fourteenth round followed by a trio receivers. Sammy. Consideration Robbie Anderson to Sykes Cork around and then Allen Lazard to John Terry Aaron Rodgers lazarides real life teammate will be backing up Lamar Jackson for the Lab Mandel Rainmaker Franchise Aka the notorious B. Ip Denzel mims off the board after that to. Jimmy. Wagner and then you get Anthony McFarland one of the backup running backs for Pittsburgh have been staff Lino followed by a couple of re- Defenses Pittsburgh and Baltimore in the AFC north to Chris. Carlson. and Wayne Ferguson respectively only. Time to take to take. Did. What what rounds the right round pick a defense off here from. Okay If. You're in Kentucky the seventeenth. That but okay so you have. No defense is through thirteen around here, and then you have three off the board and the fourteen you would not have made those those decisions here. I would have made a decision that I would not have taken I. Yeah. That's sort of getting. Okay. Something else. All right. Let's move on here and we'll take a phone call. Fancy can ellen was going from Aaron Rodgers think about the first time we've seen it happen. Which is, which is the craziest wary warious. The nine four one wants to chime in tonight and we're going to take their phone call right now you're on the air with the high stakes fantasy football, our host, Dave and bulky. Who is this? This is Liz Ballard also known as Demon Semen how are you guys? What name I love? So the perfect introduction to this phone call by the way. Great. You're not Howard sir. Who Yeah let me tell you what I do to you. All right. So let's talk about your team here at the twelve spot I want to get into this you we are basically over seventy five percent done with this draft. How do you assess your team right now? Is this what you were hoping for going in is it lasts it more what do you think? It's not at all what I expected I could not imagine Kelsey. Edwardsville, their kiddle and hill going like that in the first round I was hoping to get. It please two of those play or at least one of those players if not to. And semi my whole first second the the one two term was just sorta shattered for me but now it's all right. You know. It was funny. The. Right yeah. Left you got. You know it probably consensus number eight and nine six with Henry and mixing it really turned I think it turned out really wealthy with at once you don't often see a Henry for. Yeah exactly. Yeah. So Henry and mixing they're probably not the players that you were hoping for but Liz it, it certainly changed the way you drafted your team you got those I do guys. Oh absolutely. You gotTa Kinda. You know you gotta you gotTa Job. You know. And speaking of adjusting we we're talking about you know we just did the pros vs joes draft. So we saw a lot of industry guys weighed on Titan. We are definitely not seeing that tonight. Now let's get Mike just sickie here at the final pick of the seventh round, and then you make sure to grab another tight on your backup tight end. Here in the night, was that a design based on what the other teams are doing how fast they were scooping up back tight on? No actually I usually try and take one of the top tight ends in the first three rounds so. I was hoping that hurts our Andrews was GonNa make it back to me and when they didn't then it's like well, then I'm waiting so. You know. Justin properly, it was world on Liz I do want to ask you about this because you get the two elite running backs right away in the first and second round you get the two receivers after that and Cooper and back But then in the fifth and sixth, you go right back to the running back while with a couple of rookie running backs. I kind of want to get your line of thinking on that given the truncated off season that these these rookies are not going to have the normal wrapped. The normal sort of you know initiation and the NFL that they've gotten in the past explain sort of what you're lining thinking was grabbing not only just one running running back there but to Dobbins anti-workers. By probably by the third or fourth week, they're going to really be ready to go and they're going to be tearing up the League I. I don't have any problem with rookie running back. You know rookie running backs they've always got something to prove. Then even if it takes, you know a quarter a third of the way through the season. I've got no problem even if I have to sit him for a week or two, you know they'll. I think they could end up being league winners given kind. Of Luxury with mixing and Hungary. So yeah, exactly. Yeah. It doesn't. It doesn't have to be perfect in that sense of the word speaking perfect Liz I love waiting on quarterbacks here and you did the exact same thing here in this draft as you do not take a quarterback until the first pick, the fourteen thrown in Matthew Stafford do you think this is par for the course of how you normally handle drafts like this? Do you normally wait on a quarterback this this late or did you see some value and other positions that made you WanNa wait on the position Well, this is I think my seven football guys. And US you know at the beginning like back in I wanna sit was like may you saw quarterback gone a little bit earlier and as you watch the draft like Shakeout, you can wait until you know fourteen fifteen th round and still get a very you know serviceable productive quarterback. So no reason to to jump on a quarterback early you can you can still get good value on the running back wide receiver tight end field still at that point. Yeah and you did a great job to I mean in the fourteenth round you waited and you still had your pick of not only Stafford but breeze Daniel Jones, Aaron Rodgers as well. So a tremendous decision by you for waiting on quarterback. Dave. What did you have for Liz? I was just GonNa totally agree with what she had to say I mean and you see These football guys we only really need one quarterback. You really truly can't wait I mean it wasn't just live I. Mean you look at Russell Wilson into Shawn Watson they both go in the ninth round. and IT'S A it's a factor of her experience in drafting and football guys throughout. Your first draft maybe you wouldn't know that and all of us near taken you know Carson Wentz in the ninth round but it was really sure of you I think to wait for Stafford late like that I mean he's never really solid I. Think so too. I mean it was crushing it last year before he got hurt I love Matthew Stafford coming up in the twenty twenty season Liz. I know we're like one or two picks away from me here. But as I look at your team I, look at a squad that has six. Hours on a team that has two tight ends, a team that has a quarterback, a team that has a plethora of running backs here including four running back within the first six rounds. Is it safe to say you're looking at quarterback here in the Seventeenth Brown or you're GONNA look elsewhere I'm GonNa see what's left wanted when it comes down to me not don't have to have a second quarterback although it's not a terrible thing especially going into a Kobe's season you never know if you're gonNA, need to plug somebody in last minute. So you know I'm I'm GonNa see what's left here Yeah. I might. We'll see we'll see what happens here. What do you think of On it. Yeah. No, that's fine and and you and Arkansas well, we I'll set I'll set this next question up for Liz here Dave is we're talking about the rookie running back that she took here in the fifth and sixth round and and how she said that you know by week four week five, whatever it is they're they're gonNA be ready to go and I don't necessarily disagree with that I think a lot of the rookies if they're worth their salt are. Going to be ready to go then. But as you look at the the decision that she was faced with here at the at the final pick of the fifteenth round, she ends up going with Paris Campbell wider sear for Indianapolis and Liz. I'll throw it back to you now that we see your picture off the board, but you talk about the Paris, Campbell, pick a lot of people are Michael Pippen this year why should not be sleeping in Paris Campbell You know let's see. What happened. You Know I. He's somebody who's going a decent round and he's sort of somebody who I don't have won a lot of teams. So mixing things up, I think the Perez Campbell. He could end up doing some some good things this season we'll see what happens. Was Ballard. I totally expect you to be doing some good things this season. Thank you so much for calling in tonight. Good luck the rest of the way and this draft as well as the rest of drafting season as well. We always appreciate hearing from you. Thank you so much and and enjoy the rest of the draft list. Hey. Thanks guys have a great season. Thank you so much we appreciate that Liz, the same back at you lives valid ladies and gentlemen drafting at the twelve spots tonight you just heard her take Well, actually you didn't, but she ended up taking Dede Westbrook with the final pick of the seventeenth round and then eight defense off the board here in the eighteenth round as She ends up squaring away her starting defensive unit there, and it is the indeed the Chicago bears going off the board tonight at the eighteen o one Let's go to the eight five to as it were and take. Everybody's got different. Jobs. The real. We bring the real tonight bunch of wimps over there from the eight, five, two on the air with the HSF if our Dave David Bulky. Who is this? This is child. Way I fully expect Good Morning Yeah Good Morning indeed I fully expect did you for from calling in from from a different number tonight? I'm thrilled to hear from you obviously. So you're looking at your squad tonight. As we look at it. You knew you're going to have the eight pick with Travis Kelsey, a target for you there was he best player available No he was definitely target for me. wanted a tight end in the first round for sure. Have you eaten and refresh my memory on this raid you normally when you have the back end picks of the first round, do normally try to target a receipt. Tight. End those spots. Yeah someone drizzly drops you know. Before you would get like a Galvin Cook maybe. Now with the quiet, I'd resort there I was considering it as well. I just like stability Kelsey their. Ray We talked about how much we love the fourth round wide receivers tonight and you got one of our favorites in Adam feeling. But given the decision that you had to make I mean. So many talented receivers behind them. You have maclaurin you have cop you have Ridley to name a few. Why did you end up going with feeling there in the fourth round above the rest of those guys? just wanted to connection. He has with Kirk cousins and you know he gets all those targets so I feel like I'm. Going to running backs in one tight under start I needed to lock in someone that would definitely get the points. Have a nice floor. Yeah it certainly always appreciate that given that it is your number one receiver there you WanNa, high floor and you want a guy who can afford to a pretty good sealing as well, and if you achieve that with Adam feeling rate, you were also by the way you can follow me on twitter at Chung. Knows Ray. I. WanNa, ask you to. you were the first team to double up on. Titan with Evan Ingram here tonight at the five Oh wait how important has it been to you over the years and the football guys, players, championship, and the other F-, F PC leagues you participate in how important is it for you to be one of those first teams with too tight ends before. Oh I think it's great. I think it's great to have the best tight end also won the has enormous potential of Ingram. it's just been set back by injuries and It actually affects the draft law. You can see people scramble and in the Middle Rounds and all this value drops you you know you don't have to do with from one of the corner spots I. Think you can do it from anywhere. I it just goes off the draft sometimes I I like to bring in a little bit of chaos. The agent of chaos himself rate John chiming in tonight rain. Let's let's talk further about this team that you had formulated here tonight. Specifically Christian Kirk in the ninth round obviously De'andre Hopkins and Larry Fitzgerald they're getting the headlines in. Arizona. Why is Christian Kirk now to name to sleep on their as far as fantasy production goes up a wide opposition Kirk has enormous potential as well. I hate to keep using that word. Well I mean. He's been there for a few years now with cuyler and I think they're growing together all these like all season reports. My cat is just on the on on the keyboard. Pick. you've all been. Like you guys. You guys have been saying you know about Isabella and all that they're going to run all these you know four or five or set. So I think he's GonNa get his. And I was trying to get the piece of that offense. It's going to be a high scoring offense. So if Drako's down, I got you chase ed going to. Fancy owners worldwide WanNa know who where, and who should be the number one running back for the Washington football team. Oh Yeah. Here we go. Gives them the eighth round I actually think that's a really rating right around the right side value pick. Yeah. Pick the shot their a risk the team obviously license. They spent a high pick on him to talk a little bit about him Tony Gibson what you think his potential is. Telling you. What when you look at it, I mean I was talking to brand Heiki the four. You know I woke up to the news and it's like, what do I do you know I- everywhere my dynamics. So I talked to him I talked to eight lists or all these breakout finder drop dropped for him And Tony, Gibson compared to Joe Mixing. As his best comparable on. Player profiler. So do I dropped him or drive to draft you know. Adrian Peterson who's going on he's he's only a year younger than me so I don't know I myself out there. Not. GonNa be Scott. KNOW AP but you know GotTa go with. It listen if there was any sort of distance race on the field, Ray Chung is going to be an elite elite option when it comes to that no question with the we haven't talked about we'll get into this more with with the guys released tonight and and the potential ascension of Peterson and and in Tony Gibson their final question rate. So up pain Barbara on the pain barber re Bryce love by. The way still on the team there final question for Arabia. Let you go You went back to back eagles in this draft in What round was it here that that I saw Oh yeah. Around ten in round eleven you go jalen Reagan and the Tent Boston Scott in the eleven who do you think is GonNa pay off more dividends this year between those two eagles is that regular or is it Scott? Oh Scott has favor potential I. think Raider might need a little bit of time to get you know up to speed. With those. Off Season workouts and pre-game everything's up in the air right now so I think Scott Very. Underrated option he's he's GonNa. Get his even if model sanders is the, they'll be dog on a love model Sandra's but I think Boston Scott. You know he electrifies. To the TV screens nowadays but used to try to the crowds and he he's GonNa bring bringing that he's going to be that spark close. You know they're gonNA run so many plays in office so I think. It'll be a lots of around. Yeah I'm with you on that. I think there's some good standalone value at Boston. Scott, and certainly if you go zero RV or even if you don't and you're just looking for a high upside running back in the back half drafts I think as it kicks off Boston Scott is certainly a great name to look at and a guy that I think. Will be paying attention to as the season goes on a team that we're going to be paying attention to in this draft is indeed Ray Chung. You follow him on twitter at Chung knows Ray always appreciate hearing from you. Good luck in this draft look looking all your drastic season. Don't be a stranger and I'll talk to you again real soon man. Thanks Eric sealers. Dave. To carry. All right. Thank you so much ray. We indeed well, stay safe and. Keep it fun with the F. FCC and all the drafts you're doing this year. That's good advice for anyone quite frankly except premier Dave we're not traveling in the F. FCC here. All right. So I have a a question here for you dave with the we are. We're basically done with the draft started covering all. That was my question here because I don't know how much picked by pick analysis serves by the way seventy eight minute traffic tonight we. Were looking at what was the pros vs joes number six on Tuesday night that was like an hour and fifteen minutes and it was to less round. Yeah. So these guys superstars and they really are professional drafters than you feel. Okay. things off with the one on one tonight and win. Ferguson Seem Oh. Yeah. All right. So let me just adjust my screen here as I am want to do as I am never ready for this. All right. Here we go. Win for. Own. Football, you're drafting at the wants about tonight quarterbacks are Dak Prescott and Ryan Hannie Hill running backs Christian McCaffrey to re coin Tevin Coleman Marlin Mac Carlos High. Then you look at the receivers it has Chris God when it is Allen Robinson. Dj. Excuse me DJ chart the Johnson CD lamb Anthony Miller Antonio Gandhi Golden and Cole Beasley tight ends TJ Hopkinson and Kyle Rudolph Kicker Justin Tucker defense is going to be the Minnesota Vikings you gotta be week somewhere I. Think Wayne chose tight end tonight as I think his team is pretty balanced outside of that position I'm a little concerned is running back to I mean you have Cohen Coleman math and hide one of those guys got to do something right I mean you'd think so. But that's a little concern it allowing yourself to be weak at tight end and running back to us a little bit too much for me. Moving onto Chris Carlson team dave tonight at the second spot, you have Russell Wilson and Ben Rothlisberger at his quarterbacks running back saquon Barkley Aaron Jones Todd Gurley Mark Ingram let's Habeas Murray Daryl Williams and rex burkhead receivers Terry maclaurin. Green Tyler Boyd Marvin Jones McCall Hartman, and the Sean Jackson tight ends are going to be Irv Smith and David Jokue Greg's line is the kicker. The Pittsburgh defense is the defense. This is another team Dave that that I think is well balanced throughout however are the tight ends going to score enough points for Carlson this year to win this league. Look. How to fix a really solid Barclay Jones. girly. Ingram, you know I I like. To my legacy melot Russell Wilson. I thought it was a super value in the ninth round. Awesome. That's great. If Irv Smith pans out or or if you know Austin Hooper's of Boston joke who'd emerges I mean he's four joke who gets traded. Yeah. Exactly. My personally I would have maybe and I don't know if he likes to Ingram or waller but instead of taking Ingram would have taken waller or Evan Ingraham there at the fifth round 'cause you have so many running backs and they still Marie in the tenth round and he's so yeah, I I feel like even birkhead twentieth. really overall a really solid team I've I've concerned about end a little bit. Then Steph Lena is your number three drafter tonight ladies and Gentlemen he goes, Matt Ryan, and Cam Newton at the quarterback position running backs are going to be Ezekiel, Elliott Leonard Fournette Kareem Hunt Aj Dylan Anthony McFarland Ito Smith and Brian help receivers are Andrea. Decay Metcalf devante Parker Michael Gallup Emmanuel Sanders Golden Tate. Russell gauge tight ends are going to be Jared Goddard and Excuse me jared cotter boy that'd be Great Jared Cook and got her at the tight end position a very well-balanced team. He ends up locking up not the entire Falcons running because he didn't get girly but he got Ito Smith and Brian Hill late. Well I don't really have any quarrels with this team Dave I think he's solid at every position I've almost. Like. Really almost all of his picks I mean personally for me I would maybe taken a instead of Parker and Gal I would've taken Boyd Ataman but that's just me personally yeah could see that whole veteran but then he gets veterans, Sanders and Golden State I thought that was a really fine picks even Russell gauge in the eighteenth round. Russell gave had a number of targets. He was he produced seven point three targets last year due to injury when when somebody went down. But again as someone to look at late and I thought I thought that was a nice pick and you know you go. Smith Brian Hill take two shots at. Those. Running backs wind up. You don't often see three straight T real life teammates to end the draft here but that's exactly we. Offer. Yeah tremendous Let's look at Jimmy Wagner's team here from the four spot tonight he ends up waiting on quarterback still gets Philip rivers. Now that's loan quarterback, but this is not a best ball So there's certainly Oh, that's a spite. It's not a spike pig like I guess what I'm GonNa take rivers I'm good. Yeah exactly. I have no problem with that. No, you don't. We'll get into it. I have a problem. Okay. All right. We'll get into it Jimmy. Wagner. Also taking Alvin Kamara Austin. Philip Lindsay Sony Michelle Adrian Peterson Giovanni Bernard analyst Shawn McCoy. Receivers our Ju- ju-. Smith Schuster Cooper Cup T. Y. Hilton Julian Element Curtis Samuel Denzel mems highdown Darren Waller Blake Darwin. When Chris Herndon and Dan Arnold seems by the way Kicker Robbie Gould and the Buffalo Defense seems like a bit of overkill at tight end. Maybe I would have gone with quarterback instead of Dan. Arnold. They're just looking at WHO's available. Maybe there wasn't even be available there. I'd have to look at who wasn't selected because that was the nineteenth round Dave, but other than that balance squad again well, I mean he. Always, saw in the thirteenth round and so taking easy Peterson, you took a could've taken brady borough. Stafford Breeze Jones. Rods. Aaron my Peterson could be the leading touch running back. Eighty fifty eight year old is an Peterson. He'll turn it. Don't man. I'm just telling you totally possible instead of hurting any could've taken Josh Allen does he need Hernias Waller and Blake? Darwin? So. That's my question I mean I know that Phil I put up some points. He probably will like to seventy I mean would you rather have three thirty or three forty I would yeah. All right I get it I think that's fine. Yeah I know you know far be it for me to criticize somebody's as quarterback way ball here. And you're right. By the way it should be far be it from you to criticize somebody regardless if I'm around, you check her lives matter of quarterback. And I would contend that they don't. Screw Patrick Bulbs and Lamar Jackson I don't need them. The defending champion team, the self-proclaimed defending champion bip. Lab Mandel was in the five spots and also Lamar Jackson and Aaron Rodgers are his quarterback what a terrible ticked charge Alvin Cook Matt Brita Zack Morris Daryl. Henderson hines and Darwin Thompson, running back Robert. Woods Tyler Lockett. Marquees browns to fund digs Mike Williams Jalen hurt and Randall Cobb at the receivers and the tight ends are as of course mark? Andrews. N Thomas OJ Howard Kicker Dan. Bailey defense is going to be the Philadelphia Eagles. One of the things that I think bit lab did well, tonight Dave. Was Self Scouting. He understood he needed some help at the running back position took a lot of shots at it in round six ten and didn't stop there. The hime hines Dr Thompson late If he gets those, you know one of those running backs to hit, he's definitely in a prime position to repeat as champion. Asleep. He's got he's got Lamar. Jackson Andrew is running receivers good running back. Breeders gotTa really something. But I I like the guy like Zach Henderson Heinz, those are decent. But arbutus going to be a question mark and we'll see what happens for the John Terry. Team right after. John Terry team hold on I. Have it written down here I can find it maybe I don't where the heck did my chimoio. Normally he goes by answer Mima. Yeah say J hold the by the way that that's controversial at this point two. So I'm not really sure. Sorry. My sheet went across maybe. dorks slow Jay we'll call the team major. You. Call it. Big Addicts I call it. All right. So he he was in the sixth spot tonight day of the Shawn Watson, Josh Allen are his quarterback Watson ninth by the way. Yeah. It was filthy value running backs Mild Sanders Melvin, Gordon Jordan Howard Duke Johnson Rykiel Armstead Malcolm Brown are the running back Julio. Jones Calvin Ridley J Brown will fuller brush paramount Allen Lazard and Alcyone Jeffrey Tight End Tyler Higby J Sternberg, or Greg Olson then gets alicea kicker the New Orleans defense at Defense I. Know You are not a Fan Of What Jason? His backup tighter. Yes I. Know You're not a fan. I don't really care about you. So you don't like him as much as me that that is very sick in my opinion. This is a well-balanced team. You know it's funny about this is was on fantasy alarm on Thursday evening, and we're talking I was talking to Howard Bender Jim Voting about Howard team and the pros vs Joes, and I was let's just say less than complimentary of it. and. Kinda Talk Oh yeah Howard is giving it to. Get. You know maybe you're not a fan of value maybe you're not a fan of a guy who's going to have two hundred plus touches in the ninth round or whatever maybe that that's what it is. And you know it's funny. I am a fan of value. I'm all also not a fan of Jordan Howard and that's sort of what he was hinging all this on Jordan our well, no. I mean that there was other picks to that. We'll remember we talked he was the nick he took Charlie and a bunch of fix. Yeah So then Pick right. So. So just looking at this is John Terry Squad we're talking about right? Yeah. That's what I thought. So John Terry. Takes Jordan Howard tonight as is number three running back. Again I'm not a fan of it but you look at it. He's going to get a ton of volume. He's going to get a lot of touches. They may not be catches Dave, but then the opportunity to score Kenny score behind that offensive line I feel like it's weird. It's a weird thing to say that this team is going to be relying upon its number three running back because it's not. But you know they get is okay. Go ahead. Well first of all Jordan Howard I mean he's awesome running back because he's not an awesome. You're playing with the lead all the time. It's the Miami. Yeah. Well, maybe they're not. So, but never will nonetheless actually. But I I do still like the team I. Mean His quarterbacks are ridiculous Tucson Watson the night. And then Jonty. Really good was like the number, what five and number seven. Actually I'll look it up right now by the way I should give shadow to I. Haven't gotten the show to Derna money for pennies t Mojo for this eighty data that we always reference on the show each and every Friday but I'll tell you this right now Shawn Watson normally goes at the seven zero eight as qb five and Josh Allen. Goes Dave at the 11:05 as Cuba, right? So I mean. So you got a little value on the great value watching Hey, the controversial guy and two rounds of value on both those quarter but yeah, I mean that's that is. So what does this Josh Allen earlier 11:05? He went here at the eleven o six. Sorry Nine Oh. Wait. I gotTA. GotTa mixed up in my mind. Yeah. I know where you? No. Sorry when the 11:05 go on I know. Anyway. But you gotta no value Josh Allen. You've got a ton of value to Shawn Watson Anyway. He was wrong Balki was one hundred percent wrong moving i. so but Mile Sanders, I mean Mile Sanderson. Gordon. If those guys hold up getting Julio Really Aj Brown Fuller I, know we've always talked ripped on fuller's injuries but as as died or. Reforming now full is pretty pretty impressive. Now is not and then Allen lazard impairment I like this team a lot. I think he's really really well. All right okay where you're like. I'M NOT GONNA else on Jeff I'm not going to pump up a team based on willful or Allen lazard number shot just a big addicts. This is a pretty good team. Like a half a baggage. and. Long dependent upon what your viewpoint on Dixon, like half a for or maybe twice as bag addicts. I don't know where I'm falling our in thirty minutes. We don't talk about it and then and then you exploded out there. Well, you're the one who brought up the the analogy. I'm just you know just explaining this of in in in terms of what what what we're talking about. Jimmy Wagner by the way. Did you guys did you guys change the rules? We allowed to start to quarterbacks the way that was fawning over Watson, and now I know you're not not in this league, not a super flex football player quarterbacks also don't shop the ball like yours, those Jimmy. Philip, rivers yeah. He's throwing to a lot of talented Pascal shotput in high school I. Loved it. Really good at it too probably better than Philip rivers. I was better than more fuller my my my my who got the record at your high school yeah. I'm so ever ever told the. Did but you could tell it again if you want. This Guy Mark Fuller is six, five, two, thirty, redhead. You know Pale like I am. Yeah but he had a real writer. We'll be right here. I'm even Viking. Yeah. So I consistently in high school out through them, and then we didn't shot and discus I always be my shop with that's fine but it just gets consistently beating all meat but one meet when it was it was dark collar and I mean, I. See where you were throwing no matter. The people have to see where the discus lands and then they have to all the judges were blind. Wasn't a it was like it was petticoat a fourteen year old girl out there with with the tape measure. Yeah and Fuller Lodge is one and he ends up breaking the school record one, hundred, forty, six inside. Yeah which still stands at Martin Luther High School in Greenville if you WanNa go there how many years is this thirty? Class Eighty nine. Yeah. So that's what is that thirty one years? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. He's still holds the record. His name is in glass. I won I won and is a plexiglas. Nothing I one conference for just take your name out and then. I never had the record. Oh. Okay. Thought, you set the record he broke it like a few days. Later, the record, my highest was like one, forty, five and change I never actually would have broken record but I I one conference in shot and discus whatever itself in the and Mark Hutchison. The high hurdler just the two of US would have won conference in our in our crappy midwest classic high. School you know. I get it with the Class B but fuller will always have it over what did you guys do at state you guys went to state right? Yeah. Over I over practice and I got it took six how talks to me because I like I warmed up too much. I'm well there you have it. So it's fine. So how did fuller do at stake right now he's One hundred and thirty. Yeah, terrible. Yeah. He had his own throw and that's it but I mean he it's great because I I love a guy we talk and he was give me shit about it but it's the Jimmy Wagner and the chat room he wants to put five dollars on rivers has better numbers this year then. Then, Watson and on. All right I'm in I'm in for that. Jimmy I mean he should have to wonder. So we're not giving ten I'll give him probably one. So he's agreeing to it straight up. So I feel like we can go five to one on this. We'll give you five to one we'll take. Will Take Watson and Allen Yeah and it takes rivers I got five hundred. Whatever way or people hold mark? Fuller thing maybe is partially why I don't like will fuller that much meat you be all because I'm Mark Fuller Fuller Yeah I don't like fuller. Here's. Here's what's funny. Mark Fuller has already accomplished more than Willfuller ever will. Stay healthy through right exactly. Yeah. To the best of ability there as an AF as an athlete availability of. That's Mark Fuller and he's a he's a great guy wasn't maximum degree to punk to play poker with he's hilarious and he loves the Scotch. He'd assured Moving on steamed Sykes it's Jim Corcoran here and the seven spot tonight the quarterbacks are carson wentz and kirk cousins the running backs Josh Jacobs Jonathan Taylor Rehim Oester Alexander Madison Joshua Kelly and Lynn Boden receivers Michael Thomas, Portland Sutton Jackson crowder, Henry Rugs, and the Keel Harry Robbie Anderson and Kenny stills tight end Zach Ertz Hunter Henry and Dawson knocks Dave I love the tight ends but I'm all by the way I. I should mention he drafted kicker. Yeah. He did in the last year on. Young. Hope you're young Hawk who was his your. Kicker, and then was that the chargers or the La Clippers and with the defense here Charter. What I love the tight end but the expense that was spent on at running back and receiver. I'm not sure if we can get him board with 'cause those positions to me are not as deep as I think they need to be. Yeah, I I think you're correct but I mean, you know the team actually turned out fine The through all the players who pick at every position I thought were kind of like. For lack of a better word proper. Jacobs was really good value in the second Jonathan Taylor a really good value in the fourth Yeah. That's a really good value in the six it was Kinda. It's kind of weird like those running backs are like the kind he does have pretty pretty good running or they. I should say they have really good running backs but the top three. Sure absolutely. Wentz in that was another solid value rugs care you know mccarey? Mike also back the receivers Michael Thomas Portland Son James, crowder. So it's a little bit on the weakest tip for receiver. Still Enough I. Think I'm reevaluating my standpoint here. Yeah. But then you have urged you know Henry and then you have Knox which is one of our favorite. Yeah. I, really want this team I. Think it's really sad I don't love it. But I all of a sudden. I. Am Liking it quite a bit and I think this is a contender. Yeah. He pointed out good job good job dean six good Jim Corcoran here at the seven spot moving the. The problem having with analyzing these teams are killing my strategy with with. This is usually dog the pros because what do I give a crap about the pros well then and they normally suck right but and then you know satellite Kelsey houses, your Shane Hallo you sales jobs are good. These are all Joe. So it's kind of tough 'cause they're all pretty good. They're all good. Yeah. Everybody's be. This is that we should call this the cannibal draft because everybody's cannibalizing. I'm moving on to Ray. Chung here in the eight spot tonight Tom, Brady, and Baker Mayfield are his quarterbacks, his running backs tonight Nick Chubb James Connor Devon Single Terry Antonio, Gibson Boston Scott Chase Edmunds and shod penny receivers are Adam Feeling Jarvis Landry. Christian. Kirk Jalen Rigor Sammy Watkins Antonio Brown's Steven Sims. Travis Kelsey and Evan Ingram. Dave is you look at this team I think that there's some potential lottery tickets at. but they're cool they are. But but that could put still a deep squad even without him and then you look at the receivers and there's a lot of pass catchers on the squad with well I mean I would say the receivers well, like a lot of high volume pass sketches like feeling landry on and so forth and and he didn't it wasn't that expensive tight ends Kelsey and. Angra Good Team Nice job good on you. Ray. I like your team. Yeah. I. Think really well actually gives you know here's he's a lot of like pivot points actually right where if gives them if Gibson's good using really good shape right Jarvis Landry coming off injury that's a that's important player for him Boston Scott, I mean he he's GonNa get some production and even chase edmunds. I've heard people say the chase edmunds is is the key to this Fantasy and I don't know if I buy that but I don't either. Actually I know I don't buy and Tony Brown big deal and family what is he going to be the number two or number three I I'm voting for number two doesn't matter in the fourteenth round. It's you know it's funny. This is the view about Samuel Walking's on the fourteenth round when four other or chances of the chiefs went top fourteen fourteen. Yeah. What is the value? It's Samuel Sammy Watkins for sure Louis who the next best guy there I guess hardman right? Well, and he went earlier he went in and then. Washington Yeah John J wash your he went i. don't know where you want but he was he's getting people are spending some money on him. tenth wrong channel three. What do you mean spending some money Fabio some you know it's funny. Draft capital. We've got it. Okay I. Start then q the Denzel Washington me right now. I just got a little little excited. There didn't know what was going on. All right. So moving on here to the truth warrior, that is Hudson Kern Reeve at the nine spot, cuyler, Murray and Joe Borough will be his signal callers on this team. Some youths they're the two youths at quarterback as the kids say they running back speaking of you Clyde Edwards Hilar- Kenyan Drake, David, Montgomery Damian Harris and Benjamin and Dara or the wally. That's right. Kern read does not have a running back over the age of seventeen. Receivers on this team here Mike Evans Dj more. Jerry. Judy. Judy Judy Judy Judy and Deebo. Samuel Brandon I you. Kind of a screw that up t Higgins Larry Fitzgerald Rob Gronkowski Austin Hooper Devon AC- at tight end kickers Harrison butter and the defense is the San. Francisco. Forty niners perhaps the youngest team thus far Dave. Lot of rookies on here, which means a lot of question marks also a lot of upside. Yeah. The only thing that's not young as this tight ends Gronkowski. Hooper those guys it's like he went there is not that old. You know what is it like? Twenty five, twenty, six, I I don't think. I'M GONNA. Look it up go ahead and talk. Yeah it's like the construction of if Edwards Solaire pays off Montgomery I thought was a fine picking the in that fifth round rain there. I thought Damien Harrison San thrown worked out really well for him because of the uncertainty of Sony Michelle he will need to get something though I mean, there's receivers he's GonNa need something of Jerry Judy who I like quite a bit. He's pretty top heavy with Evans anymore neither. Jimbo. Samuel I- Euch. T Higgins. Fits. You know this might be good for sixty catches seven hundred yards in like six touch. Them. So. That's that's a little tough. So Receiver I. Think the question for me for this team otherwise, it's not bad. David two days before Halloween this year Austin Hooper will turn the right old age. Twenty six really he's. He's he when five currently. Yeah. Yeah. But I think given that he is a white tight end from Stanford? We all just assumed he was thirty six, thirty, seven years old. Yeah exactly. Maybe one on a Mormon mission even though he didn't go to Byu it's one of the they should make a movie out of that how you can go to Stanford as a football player at age eighteen and come out somehow. Twenty nine years old and entering your NFL career because our I don't explain it Hopefully, Hollywood can moving on to team ten tonight. That is Frank Inboard Nonni drafting here in the ten spot he waits on quarterback he gets Daniel Jones and jared goff themes golf back in the day they called it golf I don't know if you know this day off with the Oh. Yeah. So Jones and cough it at quarterback running backs are David, Johnson Ronald James, White Sean Bond De'andre Washington Devante Freeman receivers, Davante Adams Kenny Golladay Sterling Shepherd Michael Pittman John, Rawson James Washington tight ends are George, biddle Hayden. Hers Jack Doyle and Gerald Everett. Kickers are Jake. Elliott. And who's at the Buffalo. Defense who cares I mean? Defense. In got gotta get my eyes checked Dave it's awesome to be. Awesome. At tight end, which is what inborn Nonni here is true. It came at the expense of some running back and some. Very, top heavy at wide out not the deepest in the world at running back although I think his top three are going to be okay I don't know man I I don't think I would have gone as crazy on tight ends as inborn Nonni did but he might have the best stable in the league. Yeah I mean drafting four and twenty man drafts looks like so that's fine. I get it but they're all good. They're all guys I, like yeah. I mean hearst doyle that that's the thing is you have to Kinda discount the tight are not just going to China and just receivers a little bit because of the fact that he grabs when he touchdowns. I thought he running back David Johnson Roggio, and then he actually still keeps on von when I didn't feel like he needed to coach craze locking up the fucking here's. With Salad and then I I really think that the Washington Devante Freeman picture solid devante Freeman. GonNa. Sign somewhere. There's an obvious opening on Washington. I mean there's you twenty five, thirty percent chance and I saw in getting him in the thirteenth round is pretty solid but you're not to think of the fact that Adam out of your top two receivers in the flocks me starting tight end and running back all year. So you have to get that down, but he might he might just do. That you might have shot I. I. Don't mind this team actually it's just it's kind of a weird seem to evaluate because it's just weird looking one of the things that he does have the advantage of you know oftentimes when we say, oh he he drafted three tight ends. You know how do you know who to start well with four tight ends? It's harder to get that decision. Wrong. You know what I mean like you can start two or even three tight ends and and oftentimes I, mean especially when you're you look at his number three receiver being Sterling Shepard, there's a lot more upside with those tight ends in certain situations. So I think inborn nonni being the experienced player that he is is going to be able to exploit those matchups maybe better than the average football guys, players championship drafter well moving on to team eleven tonight. Dave. Is Dave Vision and Jeff Hirschhorn. The beef of Cucamonga here drafting from the eleven spot Patrick Mahomes and drew brees the quarterback the running backs Chris Carson Levian. Bellevue Andrea Swift carry on my wayward son. Johnson you know who's saying that carry on Kansas that is correct. Kerryon Johnson followed by Justin Jackson Chris Thomson Louis Michael Parine after that. So very deep running back for receivers are tyreek Hill Keenan Allen Various Layton, Preston, Williams, hunter, renfro viscous, and all probably dens are no offense. Eric Abdomen. Hebron excuse me on my call them Brown Eric. Yeah. Eric. labral on we'll. Get guys like fantasy Nasdaq calling me out for pronunciation twitter again Eric keep the Dow Jones. Will display I to see that as even exist. We'll just leave the third tight end, Matt Prater, and then you have defense. The Minnesota Football Vikings Man I am not a fan of the receiver depth, not a fan of the tight ends here Dave So it's it's it's kind of on the running backs to carry this team in my opinion. Is Not Fair. It's not a great. It's not. It's well I shouldn't say it's not great. It's not a team I would draft. Yeah, excuse my oldest one earliest I get it carson belts with Johnson Jackson Chris. Thomson. No problems with the running backs swift and Johnson locking up that lines backfield. Yeah. slayton impressing Williams pan out for them You know I don't dislike Fanton Eras Much I. think like what you're what you're saying Spanish Iran Kinda a little bit of question marks and I don't like any of the giants receivers as the number three wide Oh. Yeah. That's a little bit of concern and then Renfro there is that concern is hyun going to get get the play one and shoved t.f So. So I I I hear what you're saying I love the pressure volume, smack my like home more than you do but I get mad. He does have the hookups for sure does advocacy and and Hirschhorn here. All right. Final team are going to evaluate tonight. It's Liz Ballard's demon semen. Hopefully. That's the last time I uttered this sentence on this podcast. Moving on to the quarterback. It's Matthew. Stafford you're doing on your podcast for vivid video anytime soon now. Even vivid video. I don't think 'cause demon semen as as any of their. Nine yeah okay. Can you imagine? It'd be terrible. All right. Matthew staffer at quarterback the running back Derrick. Henry Joe Mixing JK Dobbins Camakers Tony. Pull Lard, Darren Evans, and Jerick McKinnon along is that Bryce love in the final round David and I'm looking at senior. Okay. Moving on the receivers Amari Cooper Beckham Brandin cooks Justin Jefferson John Brown. Paris Campbell Dede westbrook tight ends are going to be Mike Sickie. John. Smith excuse me kicker is you me fairbairn and the tight titans or sees me Defense Denver try try good I need my eyes checked. This is terrible. The bears defense. All right. So I look at this team Dave I would have added a third tight end to pair with your sixty and Johnny Smith I'm not sure if that's enough at the position the running back depth as among the best in the League clearly and there is a boatload of ups. With these young players on the squad I can get on board with Justin. Jefferson it's my four John Brown my five and and getting Campbell and Westbrook. Certainly there's some upside there with those guys. So I guess for me it's just like you know I I think I'd like this team significantly better. Had they had liz added a third tight end maybe in lieu of one of the running backs but she? Selected although I guess, you can't get away from Darren Evans pay paired with Derrick, Henry Maybe MacKinnon I would have gone with a tight end and senator. McCain I sort of the thing is if that's what your problem is with the team, you can't have much of a problem with the team. So it's not bad right? I mean I agree with you I was GONNA mentioned Garrison Evans with with Derrick Henry. And then you know the thing is when you get a Henry Nixon Dobbins and acres are kind of luxury pixel, you kind of as long as one of them pans out for your flex spot. You're in good shape, Hooper Beckham or nice I thought. Brandin. Cooks was a really solid chicken the eighth just sticking Jonathan with I do agree with you in that. There are kind of like they're both on the. You know you're you know when you if I was thinking of an Emoji I'd do the chattering teeth Emoji, for both of them So I don't WanNa. Have to chattering teeth for my tie downs, right? Yeah. I'd rather have the Smiley face of the winky face up but nevertheless, we faces a better number two. Okay of a price loving the twentieth that's worth a shot, and then some of these late receivers are solid. So I actually like that show baffert and she's like screw it grab some you know shit bags and I have him off the waiver wire. If I need someone got three texture my mom asking me if she can come over and swim tomorrow, you have a pool. Yeah. But I didn't realize. You're a pool. Yes I told you this. You No it's above ground. I'm not a billionaire. How do you? How do you swimming into like what is it like twenty feet? I don't know how with the around one yeah I've never I've I've been in the we don't want to talk about above ground ground pools I'm year. This is. I have more friends and well, it's fine. I did here's the thing my wife bought it and didn't tell me I came home one day and we had an above ground pool background to to you know I didn't even realize we talked about pool in our backyard and then we realized our kids are in high school like yeah it's not I mean my parents act too many leafs would follow. Well, we have a cover for hours and my kids are six and five and I told my wife I'm not handling anything regarding like this is all you since you didn't consult me about it. You know it's funny I told you about the burning she'll Hoshi burned her her she burned her abdomen. On some boiling water I tell you that's your dad and So she couldn't put the we have a patio set in the backyard. She couldn't put covers on the other night and she's like Oh yeah, can you do that and I wanna Patio set either we had a perfectly good patio set she had to get rid of that and buy a new one. You actually cover it what for the rain yeah and I told her I'm like I got a lot of work to do tonight if I get a chance, I'll cover it up minute rain and you didn't know around midnight I got done working and I'm like I should probably go cover that up did. And I almost woke her up to say simple last time I ever covered that patio furniture. Did. Do it. I agree with you. You know by the way you know Ingraham, pools. With. People. Drowning and paralysis. They say there are more dangerous than having a gun in your house. Really I'm I'm all I'm totally not kidding, and by the way, the study wasn't done by me. That's the in ground or just pulled in general they say pools but I mean, think they're referred Ingram I I'm trying to make you feel a little better. I think you're above ground party for my kids to fall into it I mean. I think above ground. Okay. Yeah. But I think in ground pools you know people get off the diving board, they paralyze themselves, and then otherwise they get hurt but I mean Ingraham rules are dangerous in that more. So than than guns inside an NRA studies, it's not like it was done by that and it was like someone like from Cornell you know it's funny as we have a one of those big outdoor gigantic trampolines to Oh. Yeah and my my wife, my wife stupidly put it right next to the pool and and she sends me facebook. She shares his facebook post from somebody about these kids. That were jumping off their huge traveling into the pool. She's like I will not show the kids something like how about you just moved the trampoline and we don't have to deal with this. It's regular you my my wife is just God bless her heart, but she is you know as short sighted as a you know starting off your draft with six straight running backs and and and and then you know ignoring the other positions are some advice I would give how about giving your kids from advanced math classes or something. So sort of like you know I love the math tax w that'd be. Some sort of place I get home from work and I'm like the kids do their reading writing today Oh my God no i all this stuff going on like no, we didn't have all this stuff goes and it's just it's just now I'm getting aggravated now we now we should do the show because now I'm all fired up about online learning you know sort of online learning tonight for anybody who's drafting in the football. Players. Championship you've got gotTa some good analysis from us. You got some great drafting done by the twelve teams in here who have too many football guys players Championship league. 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The Homer and Hater Show: The curious case of Terrell Edmunds

Behind the Steel Curtain

59:48 min | 1 year ago

The Homer and Hater Show: The curious case of Terrell Edmunds

"Pittsburgh steeler fans welcome back to another episode of the homer in the hater show. I am Jeff Hartmann the homer and the editor of behind the Steel Curtain Dot Com and joining me as always is his lands. Williams. The hater. What's up lands has gone. What's a homer? I have a feeling you know? We've been talking a lot off the air via text and before we went on the on the air today. The topic that we're GonNa have the main gist of the conversation. The first part of the show. We might have our roles switch here little bit. Lance might be to homer today. I may be the hater in. It's all surrounding one player on the Pittsburgh steelers defense. Now if you listen to us. I think it was Wednesday. It wasn't the standard that was dedicated. Basically to Ben Rothlisberger. Yes yes this episode is going to be dedicated to one Terrell Edmonds. Yes the guy that was in the bathroom when the steelers took him I in the first round a few years ago Had A poor drawers are real quick and run out there on stage anyways. That's actually a true story by the way I don't know if people are not I did not know that he he was he will four but before I comment on that. Which is pretty funny. I WanNa wish my my wife my beautiful wife a birthday or birthday is tomorrow and it's just one of those special mouse dome birthdays as well so I wanna wish her a happy upcoming birthday on April sixth. We celebrated a little bit yesterday. You know we celebrated with a massive zoom party because as Kinda just where it is right now but it was. It was pretty good. It worked out pretty well. There were some advantages to it. They're probably about forty five people in zoom call so she was able to interact with some people that she may not have been able to had. Just done a traditional Birthday Party so again. WanNa dedicate this show to her. Happy Birthday to my wife on her. I think it's the Golden Golden Birthday. I don't know I don't know the medals think would you start but but happy birthday to her birthday to Mrs Williams. We wish nothing but the best in a it's like you said I was talking to my children this morning on our walkabout how no matter what situation there can always be something positive to glean from it. She got a zoom party and maybe she didn't get to talk to some people but I like this is up and today Dave Scofield's chimes in the live chat. Today's big bursts goes birthdays. Happy Birthday to Big Bang. Bros go for those co host of the static in the staticky QNA I love what Ezra says just about the show in January said thank God for this show. It's the only time I lady leaves me alone. Well we're we we all get So with that all said and we got a lot of people chiming in the live chat. Let's let's do a little roll call and before we get started with this trail. Edmonds Talk Bowl call everyone were you watching chiming in the live chat. If you're watching US live on youtube you didn't know we had a youtube channel. Just go to YouTube. Search bt SC steelers. Radio subscribe to the channel like the videos. We appreciate it. We'll see where we have some people. I know Melvyn Melvin. In the House radio it is raining cats and three dogs out here like it is raining really bad in California so there will be no grill work. My brother very good. So we'll see where some people are chiming in from. We got midtown Atlanta Spokane Washington. Southern Kelly Zachariah Jared Devil from San Pedro California Way Johnson from Pasadena. A lot of people on the West Coast Lands Man. Melvin there it is Dallas Texas blog. Talk Radio a veteran. What was it you or was it. Brian was on the show when the steelers played the cowboys and he called in just absolutely hammered. After the game was at your resume. Brian me were you on the show with me when Melvin called in after the steelers. Beat the cowboys. I don't think so I would have remembered that data is trying to into a taxi and was on the phone with US awesome. There you go see. We got some more. Jim Jensen from North Dakota Brad Miller from Erie. Pa Joel from New South Wales. I'm GONNA that's crazy pitman from Atlanta devious from Nashville Robertson Washington. We've got Some rhino tool for mechanics. I that's not far from where I am right now. Guirec still in northeast Ohio. Sorry to hear that I had someone emailed me there it is. What's your beef with northeast? Ohio I just feel bad for those people. You're living in Brown's country. A At least he chose the right team. That's what I always say. Bad said it was him and I figured it was bad bad. Brings the bad out of people so it figures then that was. That was an all time. Great call though and Melvin. Crafty means after we beat the bengals when then got hurt. That was an all tie he was. It was hysterical. It was live. Radio live call in. It was great all right. We love to be able to do that again. But you know that I need to raise the miss caller that he if you were listening to the shows back in the day you know. We're talking about from the infamous caller. I don't want to have that person any light in case there in the live chat in they wanna do it via the text or the written word but anybody bad it was really bad and Melvin says. Please research calling it. I Miss Talk. I'll try to find a way. I'll try to find a way I might have to reach out to our fine folks extreme yard with the streaming service that we use to see what they can do for. Bad always brings up something funny. Today is kid from kid in place birthday. I can imagine Brian. Anthony Davis doing the kid play kick. Step Him in Dade Scofield during the kid and play kicked if you know what that is just imagine bad with. Bj Fini's during the kid in play kick step will little bros go in the kylo Ren Mascot that we have to film that that that that that has to go bad is Who was terrible with the field goal tip was that did you to the field? Go nowadays all right. Let's get this show on the road because a lot of people might have seen the headline insidious what I want to hear. What they have to say about Feldman's because someone earlier rated game of the show what did they say our worst defender referring to Terrell Edmonds. Would you say that Terrell Edmonds right now is the steelers worst defender yes? However I'm David I'm GonNa give you a Scofield. The oracle low bros go type Lancer and and and I think the way he answered 'cause he answered the question on his show yesterday. Kinda like this about bud is but he answer so he basically said that bud duprey was the worst defender of the front seven but he gave really good context too. Because when you look at the front seven and you look at Hayward you look at what you look at Bush. You look at At the time J von Hargrave you look at the very good quality players in the front seven. It made sense. The dupree was the worst of the front seven. It doesn't mean he's bad. It just means the front seven was so very talented. He just happened to be the worst of the seven but that still meant he was very good so I think that's the same thing you look Torrero Edmonds. You look at this entire defense. You look at the talented front seven. You Look at Hayden you look at Nelson you look at. Its Patrick when you start looking at the ten defenders yes. He is the worst defender of the defense along with Who was a free agent or the guy? The steelers traded for Chris warmly. Is it warm leads the last night but he's not going to be a starter he's NBA rotational guy? Well let's say whoever just plug in unsaid nose tackle. That person will probably be the worst person so we'll probably be tenth of Allaire base in their base of their bases. But that just means. That's how talented that they that they are on defense that our first round guy could potentially be their worst guy but that might mean something else as Jeff. Dawns the hater cap. Yeah I mean you were texting me. And we didn't know what the headline or the main topic was gonna be but before we got started on the steadily daily. Bring up these questions you asked me. Do you have them by by chance? You could go ahead and bring those. I've got it here. We go you. You were asking all these questions about. Thrill edmunds and I was like okay. We can talk about Edmonds. I'm not I'll be honest. I'm not a huge drill admits fan. I WASN'T A. I wasn't a big fan of this election at that time. I didn't think that they needed to pick him. In the first round I felt that he could have been there in the second some even suggest even third he could have been there. And when I hear that. That really ticks me off. Because my gosh they they'd spent a first round draft pick on anyways you ask the question. What does edmonds ceiling look like I gave you a responds? I want to know what your answer. So won't you want to let people know what what your response was? Looks like a tin roof fifty. Two's tin roof. Rusted see now. I'm not very familiar with the B fifty. Two's I think I know. Famous has loved that. Was Jack Franz writing? I don't know any love shack lyrics except for hacking the chorus and the word Love Shack. But I mean that's a great karaoke. He saw Don't know if it's a sin roof. I don't know it. Roofs are made up. I'm sure we have someone in the live chat. That could probably build a roof. So let's just say whatever. The best roof is made out of one that has maybe a fifty year warranty never leaks. He's not that roof. Ask probably your roof that as a twenty year warranty it may have to be patched a couple of times but what I do think about admins is I think is a glue guy. He's a very good sub packed. It's guy if he plays that dime backer roll like the steelers did with Morgan Burnett. I think if they put him in that role his value to that defense can be maximized. Because I think at this point in time I think with defense the more versatile secondary guys. You have the better defense you have so if you can bump him as into that dime backer role you can put a guy in a secondary that may be better as a coverage player and a player that has more awareness and it just gives you more versatility insult packages and it gives you more speed And more coverage players on the field because right now I mean you have to be really good against the pass. You got to be much more better against the past and you do the run so I think if they put him in that situational package as that guy backer. I think you start to maximize his value but just as a strong safety. I don't think he has a ton of impact on the defense. Or let me ask a okay. So Sean Manny and said it in a he's one of yours you're saying he said. Edmonds is a guy that he'll never be the guy and I agree. I agree but you brought up the the dime backer role. I agree that we've talked about this on our shows before. That is where he best fits. So I'm looking at this age. Okay if he's going to be that dime backer and we don't think that he's the best in the deep half then a part time player or is he someone that you're still gonNA put back there. Because I cannot get the play out of my head in Arizona. We all know the play. Yeah it was easy. Interception misjudges the ball. In it's a touchdown Adema made by not a dentist hush down but he doesn't even get his hands on the football in its completed pass. I think it was a touchdown. Anyways I can't get that out of my mind and just that's horrible for deep secondary play. How about this loop? Let me play the advocate here on his behalf. If I were his defense attorney he was in position to make the play now. He didn't make the play but he was there so he was. He was in the right position. He was in the area of the field to put herself in position to make the play. It wasn't as if was an awareness mistake that was a ball skill mistake and I think ball skilled mistakes can be corrected as opposed to or easier to correct than awareness issues. My issue with him is sometimes. He doesn't display a great feel for the game whereas Minka Fitzpatrick is a great ball skier player and has a great feel for where the ball is going to be in. His awareness was probably added nine or a ten right. I would put edmonds awareness closer to a five or six with ball skills around. I'd say Edmunds boss. I would say there's awareness is about a seven ball skills or about seven. There is death related. Were saying hold on. Hold on us at ball skills. At what set seven. He's how many interceptions does he have in his career with three one yet. That's how many pass offenses does he have. You said this on Wednesday. How many pass defenses as you have in two years as a safety guess? Eight seven seven okay. Well that's not leaving or seven will let me just okay now to. I'll get my outta ten. Now here's the prosecution has displayed some very compelling evidence. I may need to take continue. Wins and look for some more facts to defend this case because the evidence is not looking favorable. Journalists have a continuous yes. Here's your honor. I guess I look at Trail Edmonds. I say okay. We talked about how dynamic Mavis Patrick is. Everyone's drawn the comparisons to the best safety the best playmaker. The steelers defense has had since Troy Paula. Malai played we're not saying he is troy. We're not saying he's going to be troy. We talked last episode about how there's never going to be another troy. Troy just play the game of different way but for every Troy Paula. Malu there's a Ryan Clark. That's like the anchor. Yes is edmunds capable of being that anchor for Mega Fitzpatrick to do his thing. What do you think I don't? I don't think so the reason I don't think so because the problem by the beat I if they make Mingun to. This joker hybrid type player. They move around. He starts doing different things. I think to be the anchor to make a you have to have excellent awareness because you have to have awareness as to where minx should have been or could have been and you have to know your spot and you have to have kind of a feel for where you thinking. Offense is GONNA attack if Minka does something off script. So that's I think the beauty of Ryan Clark in. I'm trying to remember the safety before Ryan Clark at play Chris. The hope and Chris hope the very aware that great awareness and they have to have a great feel. When you play with the player that maybe has the freedom to improvise. You have to be extremely knowledgeable. It has great vision in a great feel for the game. But let me. Let me tease. This jeff is there a scenario where you see him. Being transitioned into a inside backer. Full-time they draft the safety in possibly moving safety and play another deep safety as a free safety and they kind of play to free safeties in a little bit different than your traditional free safety and strong safety. I know does get blended but edmonds is more of a strong safety. I think we could agree on but where you go with counter to free safeties and you bring it in the box to play that week that that inside linebacker with Bush or would they be too light not did that I am all. I am on board with that one hundred percent because you asked me in our tax before you're on the air. Who is a player comparison for Edmunds? And what was my answer? More Edmonds is another mark. Baron and I don't think there in terms of size that different because edmonds is a bigger bodied safety. Put Him out there as that hybrid safety and I'm actually excited about what he can do for the team. That's just me but I'm excited about what he could bring to steelers defense in sub packages in. I think that yeah. You can draft safety. And they've already been rumored to be looking at a couple of safeties one from clemson. Who would be a day three pick but for me? You already have your answer there in the. I think it might be Camp. Sutton if you're GONNA put if you'RE GONNA put Edmonds Down Low. Tell me why Sutton can't play the deep half alongside Mingka's Patrick or maybe or would you switch Hilton but Hilton. Plays the line of scrimmage better than sudden so I would want him to stay where he is. You agree or disagree yes. I'd want Hilton Day in that role. You need another coverage guy. So let's let's. Let's tease this out. If you move it men's into the box it. He's a linebacker. GimMe your sixty BS. Well obviously you have Nelson yet Hayden. You Have Fitzpatrick I guess if you put you've Hiltons on the field right that's four. That's four so use your is your fifth. I guess my question is. Are you taking another linebacker off to do this? You know you're taking Vince off. And you're putting him down the box. That's that's the problem is. Is it a guy like Justin Lane? I'm not sure babied. If they if they WANNA keep a heavier they wanna stay heavy. They always look for keeping Vince on in just keeping yours yours. Basically dollar defense they talked about before you would then sub off defensive lineman they have they have opposite in my opinion. Well what would you Let me just give you the differences in weight. I just looked at both guys bearing in Edmonds. They got Berend listed at two thirty in edmonds listed. A to seventeen to seventeen is kind of lighten. I'm trying to think when they put I'm trying to trying to think back in my head. When the steelers had Morgan Burnett? I'm trying to think back to the New Orleans saints game when they played Morgan. Burnett as the dime backer. I think they did take off. A defense of linemen in a kept. Aj eljay excuse me. Aj foyt eljay. Fort on the field. That's interesting because I think your advantage with Sutton. Is I think when you look at Sutton in Hilton. Sutton is the better coverage player. However you lose that element of Hilton. At the line of Scrimmage I. I think you could put Hilton because I know they did a little bit last year. Where they put Hilton as deep safety I think you could just do it that way. You Put Hilton as a deep safety. You Keep Cam Sutton as the coverage guy you might just blitz other people in not blitz. He'll not the line of scrimmage you might do it that way and let Hilton. Be that guy next to Minka Fitzpatrick Patrick and played at deep path. You'd probably be in quarters. I would think maybe covered three. But you'd probably be in quarters to a certain extent or may be covered six some quarters as some cover two different coverage on both sides of the Hashes but I think the thing about maximizing edmonds is impact on the defense. I think we're we're saying is to maximize his impact. It's up to the coaches if you keep him in that traditional strong safety role because of his issues with awareness amd ball skills. He's not gonNA impact again. He's going to be really just a supporting element. He's GonNa be like good milk in a recipe for some cookies. Awesome cake taste milk but if the milk is sour you definitely taste but if the milk is good you it just adds richness to the recipe. I think the frustration when steeler fans is they. WanNa see some icing on the cake. So some good Red Velvet Icing. Like they WANNA see some zing some possess because that's kind of what you want with the first round draft pick but I think the most valuable thing with edmunds right now is his door bill he plays snap snap out and I think with his athleticism you can get different things out of him. Based on whatever the creativity of the coaches so he's athletic and strong enough to be used in a variety of ways he's not limited like a Ryan Switzer. Who can't do anything I mean. He's just a physically talented and gifted guy. And so if the coaches configure it out. He has the athletic ability to possibly do it. Yeah Edmonds is to me would be perfect for that. Hybrid role and playing. Down the line. Scrimmage I just you know I was watching. It's going to publish on the website behind the Curtain Dot Com tomorrow megabits Badger joined. Espn's I take with Stephen. A Smith Max Kellerman. I guess it was early last week. I didn't see every time I see. Stevie I just don't listen but I did see making is just like a kid. Listen well so Minka was asked a bunch of questions and ask them individually. What are some of your goals for twenty twenty? 'cause he's already at the all pro first team all pro it pro bowl. He said my next goal for myself is defensive player of the year. He said I had a pretty good run at it last season but then all of a sudden he's they stop throwing at me because they start thrown at me. My statistics down. He wasn't able to get past offenses in an interception. Something we've talked about and not just us a lot of shows Msn nauseam that at a certain point offenses said. We're not gonNA throw to Fitzpatrick side. The issue I have and this brings it back to Tyrrell Edmonds. If he's playing the deep half they will know where to go with the football. You can't have in a weak link like that back in the back end because then you're nullifying all the dynamic aspects of makeup Fitzpatrick's game in my opinion. And so they like you said the coaches are going to have to be creative. I do think edmonds has a skill set that can be beneficial to the team. I really do at the same time. I don't know if he's the player that some people are expecting him to be or can be in twenty twenty. That's just my own opinion. Let me ask you this. I think I think with US fans in most people. Is that when you get drafted in the first round? It could be a gift or curse to give this. Obviously you get paid great money teams are going to give you a legitimate. Shake it for the most part to fail to succeed or fail. The other thing is that because you were drafted in the first round the League is probably going to give you a legitimate chance to fail over and over and over again because somebody saw first round talent and with the steelers doing it. It'll give Terrell Edmonds additional years that he may not get being a fourth rounder. Unfortunately when you get drafted in the first round dares expectation that goes with it. Especially if you're a Pittsburgh steeler first round draft pick in in drafted on the defensive side of the football. Is it acceptable for you Jeff? If a first round draft pick merely is a complimentary player I mean does a first round draft pick has to be this lights out all pro multiple pro bowl guy borderline hall effect me just hours. Round draft picks be great players. Or can they be Lawrence Timmons? Were there just solid? They play a vital role in your defense. Year-in-year-out it when you don't have been you go while he's not playing in. We see the difference. Yes a first round pick does have to have those same. They don't have to be a hall of Famer. Okay because we know that's as rarified air but a first round draft day does have to play they have to play well and they have to play a lot and you just I just described Lawrence Timmons steelers I seven. I guess the Question Edmonds. The book is still being written on him. Just like we always say. You can't great draft class the day after they were picked. You just can't do that and so it. He's going into year three. In my opinion this is a pivotal year for him. In a wide variety of ways. The steelers are going to have to make a decision on his fifth year. Option at some point. And they're gonNA have to know okay. Is this guy worth it. Or is he not and so does. Edmonds. Is He always there. Yes you brought durability. He's very very rural so far in his career. That's a good thing Has He shown some promise? I would go ahead and say yes that he has shown some promise at the same time. I DO CAUTION. Have a little bit of trepidation. We'll say we'll put it that way when it comes to what he's going to become an what could he become? Because someone in the live chat. I forget I it's obviously continues ago as AP keep talking. That's great is move Mako around more. You can't do that if you have a liability in the on the other side that you just can't. And so if if Terrell Edmonds has strict limitations on himself that he is not able to do what the steelers hoped he would as a first round pick endeavor. Therefore that hinders Minka fitzpatrick that is a death knell for your secondary. In my opinion we're all entitled to it. Yeah it's it's GonNa be interesting what they do because you know he's he's a tough evaluation. He doesn't necessarily kill you but he doesn't necessarily do enough to get you excited. You know he's you know he's the he's the the the seven I mean. He's the seven I mean he's the seven seven and a half you know for male or female like you know he's fairly attractive. He's a solid guy doesn't necessarily get you excited like. Oh the nine or ten. That is really bad for you. But it's really hot like you know like you never know like you know just as I hopefully didn't give an inappropriate We got you. I WanNa make it clear though because Ezra alive sheds as Edmund should not play safety. I'm not suggesting that he turns into a linebacker. I'm just saying that. They have a position now on their defense. In it's been well documented for Morgan Burnett to mark Baron that he could play that position. Can he then improve his skills in his ball skills enough in the back that he would never have to leave the field? That's the question. Entering twenty twenty will see Let me ask you one more question. Jeff can as we go into the hypothetical bag. You think he could bulk up. Maybe get to about two twenty five anywhere between two twenty five to thirty as full-time inside linebacker. So they just so. They don't have time to inside linebacker time inside the ACAR. What's Vince Vince? Williams heightened wait. That's look that up from. I'm I'm a guest. Vince is probably around two forty. Yeah he's also probably a little bit taller too little I would guess probably around there. I'm thinking but I'm thinking you know. Bush is probably what about two thirty to thirty five? They got Vince. Actually listed here at two thirty three six one hundred thirty three said deadman's is a big bodied safety. So could he potentially bulk up in? Yes play down the box full time. It's a possibility I just don't know I I. I need to see exactly what he looks like even in that hybrid role because that we've never seen in there. He didn't play their last year if he did. It was temporary and so we'll see still out there in awareness issues when you're playing linebackers run fits you kinda gotta feel where it's going in so awareness. You GotTa have a certain awareness at the linebacker position. But I don't think they probably drafted him as a safety to be a linebacker. I think that would be evidence of a bad evaluation of the player and that they're trying to just get the most out of the player because he was a first round draft before he eventually goes to another team so yeah and so did to kind of. Something's up on Edmunds. We'll see and that's that's I think he's a player that is definitely worthy of the discussion. Because he is. He's not the linchpin but he's a very important piece of the puzzle for the steelers defense moving forward so right now. I'm looking at her looking at my screen. We have one hundred and four people in the live chat right now watching. Live what we ask that you do is to like show case of all. These people are watching. If you're watching on your cell phone just accept alive. Chad hit the thumbs up. Go right back to the live chat. You haven't missed a thing. We appreciate everyone for doing that. and Rhino tools right Terrell Edmonds could bulk up if I was training him absolutely put him on the the twenty one program their ego. We'll get involved By the way you know who your client is going to have to come on the show. He's on a client yet. He is voiced some interest. We'll put it that way. Yes when he when he becomes a client. We have to see the before. And after I I definitely want to see that transformation we will. We will see signs up and he gets on board will. It's tough times for a lot of people finances are definitely type but with that said what I did before we went on the air. This is early in the morning. I went to our behind the steel curtain twitter account that's bt steel curtain. You can check us out there. If you don't follow us. Give us a follow and I said just looking for some steelers questions for the home. Run hitter podcast. Day Far Away. We had a pretty good response. So we're going to go through some of these questions. If you're watching live in the live chat go ahead and give us your answers as well. And so we'll start off the bandwagon top to bottom Frankie J Ryan says should the steeler sign claim at junior just for depth purposes? Now I have not seen him as someone that had signed with the team yet. He's a veteran. He knows what he's doing could be quality. Death could be on the cheap lance. What are your thoughts? Well it just depends on the price tag. I mean depth. They need depth at the outside linebacker position. If either one of the outside linebackers were hurt. Their defense would be severely impacted. It just depends on the price you know. I'm not sure what he played for last year. Who did he play for last year? The board for the Rams It just depends on the price tag. I mean if you look at the steelers cap situation and I'm bringing up here you know. I don't think they have a ton left. They have a million left. They can structure Stefan restructured so they could create space if they want if they restructure contracts to create space. You guys no rhyme leaning backup quarterback position so it just depends on the price tag. I think the idea is solid. I'm not sure about the player but I know they are a very vulnerable position. In terms of depth at both linebacker spots inside and outside so bringing in a veteran edge rusher would not be a bad thing. It's all about. It's all about the money that's always about now. This is a more of a comment and a question but Jordan on twitter said why do steeler fans continue to do post mock drafts when the steelers don't pick till forty nine sure. There has to be something for them better to do look Jordan. Let me say as a website editor and as a podcast producer. That when you don't have a first round draft pick it sucks. It really does because once the calendar turns from Free Agency and you start really focusing on the draft all these Audra Mel Kiper. Todd mcshay you name it very rarely do they go on to the second round so they have to. We have to create content. Okay that's what we are. We are content. Creators weighing sends me a few text messages doom the curious case of Terrell admits. Here's your podcast. You're watching it. Listen to it right now. It's content creation. Don't hate the people for trying to create content for you the fan. That's all I'm GONNA say Lance. You can say whatever you want about that. That's just my little spiel. You know I mean it in for us is especially challenging. I'm not draft guy at all. No need it at and we're not draft is so we talk about the draft merely because we have to talk about the drive. I mean I don't you know and my dad laughs at me because he's like look. Here's some stuff for you to read. So here's a couple of guys so when you're doing the POD I just don't go. I don't know anything about the embrace. The fact that I don't know anything about these guys because guess what none of you guys know anything about these guys either because guess what nothing that done in college matters enlight Terrell Like we talked about. Maybe the circle back to that just a bit. It's how they're going to be utilized. You can get a stud guy in college. Does everything well does everything specifically. Well whatever they go to another team and they may COMPLA- corner when they're safeties and they're getting killed as a corner or slot corner and you're like this guy is terrible. No Guy's not terrible because he wasn't utilized oil so it's just a wait and see what the draft let me. Just wait a year or two. Let me just evaluate the player game by game? Like the coaches do. I don't have to guess they're going to play and we'll see how they play. So you know two jobs point. We're trying to create content in the draft one of those elements absolutely and I love would read over and says because we're all stuck in our houses with nothing better to do there you go. That's why fans continue to much as yes and at this juncture of our world. This is where we are. I mean I was so bored the other day I actually watched some of the most painful one of the most painful steeler games I've ever had to watch and you can guess what game that was. Jeff my gosh. There's so many was it of. GimMe the year two thousand and one. Afc Championship game against the Patriots. Absolutely that's probably my worst steeler memory because it started their dynasty and it was just a terrible loss. I don't even WanNa talk about it. 'cause they'll what one offensive touchdown instill given night. Can we not do this right now? As a gay or are gave me a migraine. And that's real time. I gotTA migrated. I had to sleep for like seven or eight hours after the game. Just literally sick. It may be sick. I woke up the next day on Monday. All right next question came from lying. Peercy says he will have a big year next year. James Washington or Deontay Johnson. This is interesting because I believe it was on our show a couple of weeks ago this one or the standard. I get them confused and we were talking about Deonte Johnson's numbers and we all made the assumption that he led the team in receiving yards last year. He didn't it was James Washington. So Lance has the bigger year in. Let's go with two categories receiving touchdowns in receiving yards. He has the bigger. You're not take. He's GonNa have a better year catches touchdowns receiving yards in the one reason. I think that to be the case is when you watch both players on them. He gets off of press coverage much better than James Washington. I mean look at look if you want if you want to take a look at it if you guys have some access to NFL game pass. Look at his game against The outstanding corn from Buffalo. Just had the guy's name in my head but I just forgot his name. Dow starting first round the first rounder. Or I think. All PRO corner From Buffalo Indiana Johnson matched up against him one on one and he was getting on for press coverage pretty easily repeatedly Against Him and so. Why ain't gift today this white and so? I give the advantage to Deontay. John I think he's a better technician. I think he's more versatile in terms of route running and I think he's more dynamic after the catch then James Washington and that's not to say That I don't think James Washington is an emerging player. Because I what I saw James Washington last year specifically to play against the Cincinnati bengals. I mean there are not a lot of guys that can make a living and with stiff arm. I was great player. I shows you where his ceiling could be but I think he's more of a home run hitter type. Vertical Guy Run Vertical routes nine routes in the scene in on the outside. I think he's more of that outside. Receiver where deontay Johnson is more dynamic. So I think the Andre Johnson will have a better season in all of those categories. Okay I'm GonNa side within our buddy at McNair who put it out. He said there statue of different deontay with more catches Washington more yards. I do think Washington has more yards. I think he becomes a legitimate threat for the steelers this year but I think the deontay Johnson overall have the better quote unquote season. I think we'll have more touchdowns to point to that comment I think Washington's yards per catch will be greater. Okay Yeah I think it'd be probably fourteen and above James Washington okay continuing in our. Qa mailbag here Mason says. What are the expectations are? What are your expectations have been Snell? Thought he played well as the season went on. Last year improved. He was more explosive than advertised. And it's hard to bring him down as well Lance. Benny no jets. What are your expectations in year? Two can I answer this? By just saying JK dominance. Ooh Okay. All right that's a college guide. It lands knows his name. So that means he's paying did you get. Did your dad dislodge if he's favor? You're getting all these these vapors. Jk Dobbs if he's there it would be really tough to pass up. I'll put it that way if he's there so I think the Benny Snow could be a good complementary back. I'll put it that way. I don't think he is the guy I think he is. A change of pace type of player could be good but at the same time. I don't. I don't think he is the guy as we put it in the show before Jeff. Now you're now let's say Jeff you're having Like steak and potatoes right like potatoes are complementary to the state the state is the STAR. The potatoes are complementary now is beanie jets. Is He a complimentary or is he just a condiment? So you know how salt-and-pepper you put in the potatoes in there the condiment that you put in the potatoes to enrich the complementary dish. Is He condiment hell? I hope he's the potatoes I think he's a potatoes. It's I really do because I think that he's when I watched him run. He had a little and I say this has generally because he's a hall of Famer but he had a little Bussey to him if he had seen he runs hard. He's not the type of guy that's going to go down easily. I would love to see him feel a and I'm not sure if he is versatile enough to do this but to be like that a wealthy more type if you think back to how they utilize him he was a change of pace back. I remember change of pace can look like anything. That's different than what you're used to. So let's get. Jk Dobbins and say they donate stick with James Connor. James Connors a one cut down hill. I'm going to erect my body type runner. That's exactly what he does. And it seems like any smell is different than that. He has a different style. I like him as the potatoes. Not The steak there you go. There's your answer. Benny snail is S. D. In they don't have an hd back they have no high def back painting snappers as the standard def. Will Your Computer Looks Fuzzy in the background? All right let's go to the next question in the mail bag This is from steelers nation. Nine hundred zero. What has Mason Shown Mason Rudolph? He's referring to prove that he's a solid. Nfl quarterback in do you think he could be the future? It currently scares me to think he may be Benz predecessor. Any reassurance would be great. I'll go ahead and start here and say I don't think anyone in their right mind. The watched two doesn't nineteen would say did he is Ben Roth asperger's predecessor or who's next in line the heir to the throne however you WanNa put it for me. I look at base and Rudolf as an unfinished product that still has to prove itself and people in the live chat saying what about Paxton Lynch for me in my opinion if I'M THE COACHING STAFF. I'm going into twenty twenty. It's an open job. A veteran that comes in. You've talked about this a lot. We Know Ben's The guy. They've put all their eggs in. Ben Rothlisberger Basket and I don't even think they're thinking too much beyond his contract right now but at the same time I look at it and say Mason. Mason is is just another guy. That's going be competing for a job. Do you agree or disagree? I agree that Mason will not sit upon the iron throne. He will never rural western else. He never be that guy he would never sit upon the throne. He's like seven in succession. I would like him to be seventeen succession but unfortunately he's number two in succession. I don't want to beat a dead horse because I've beaten as dead horse over and over again here's I have and I you know. Look you know. He's not the guy I mean. The one thing he does well is take a punch. He rolled with that shot. Pretty well you know when he was fighting in the Cleveland game. He looked like he has some boxing skills. Unfortunately rolling conscious from helmets. Don't make you a really quality or and you know he's an attractive lad according to the Hartman House and you know. His hair looks nice and he says the right things but notice. I've not said anything about his ability to play the quarterback position and I'm just concerned about it bit. Been biotic big. Ben Only has two seasons left. I mean this is it and I just want to maximize the most out of those seasons. So of been goes down for you know a six game stretch you know I wanna go five and one of those games and I just don't think unless the defense plays at you know a a madman all pro pro whatever how the settings are madden Do just it just makes it very difficult. Get a quality backup quarterback so. Your season isn't lost. If ben is out for a quarter to a third of the season I agree. Okay let's move on Lori steelers. Gal says we'll stay after next season will or will he get a juicy contract instead. And everyone's pointing to the Amari Cooper deal is a hundred million total. Maybe a little bit north of that sixty million guaranteed. I believe if you actually look at the last. Three seasons their statistical production is better to say you know I don't know what his agent this is. Why lands. I told you months ago that if I were the steelers. I'm trying to get a an extension for juicy right now. His his his price tag is low. Because he's coming off an injury plagued season. If you feel like he's GonNa Bounce back try to get him locked up trying to get that done because you don't WanNa have to deal with all that stuff. What do you think is GonNa play out? I'm looking at Amari. Cooper deal in his cap hit for this year's twelve million but then that jumps to twenty two million over the next four years. They're not going to give a a wide receiver. That much money he will. He will not play. That number will heat where his cap numbers. Twenty two million especially not in twenty twenty one where Ben Rothlisberger cap number jumps to forty one million. It's GonNa be interesting with Ju Ju I I think Juju has a big year. He will definitely be offered a contract. I think he may be anyway I could see Juju plan somewhere else. the the wide receiver contract numbers are pretty high and with Ben. Rothlisberger only probably being the quarterback for one more season. I could see Juju plans somewhere else with a younger quarterback and for more money because you look at somebody's wide receiver contracts. I mean the the average per for Julio Jones is twenty two million Amari Cooper is number two in Football League at twenty million Michael Thomas. Nineteen point to to repeal eighteen million Odell Beckham eighteen million. Aj Green Seventeen eighteen million. Mike Evans Brandin cooks. You look at the top wide receivers. I mean even an atom dealing is sixteen point to Jarvis. Landry is fifteen point one. So you know who's GonNa want average per year at least fifteen sixteen million and I. I don't know if they're GONNA do that for him in for a wide receiver. So I I could see Jew because of the money amd because been won't be there another five years playing for somebody else. I think he stays. I think they get him a deal. I think that it's going to be just a typical steeler deal. That's light on the front end backloaded. But when you're naming off all those receivers it wasn't until you got to Brandin cooks and Adam deal and those guys that I was like. Yeah that's where juju belongs but no one is saying that he's Michael Talks. No one is saying that he is You know all the elite guys in the NFL right now. But he's that I think he's at upper second tier into this year's election. I don't think they will go unless he has another bad season. I think bringing back. Because if he has another bad season and he thinks he's getting fifteen million a year. You're not he's nuts because he's not going to get it he's GonNa lose three. Throw you a name out here. Do you think he's better than Keenan? Allen that's a tough one now no let's average for years at eleven point two if they could get Juju at around eleven point. Two juju will be back You know 'cause these wide receiver contracts are pretty big. I mean they got T. Y. Hilton at thirteen million. You think he's better T. Y. Hilton Yeah I think he is. Okay so maybe that's the number right there. Because Alan Robinson's at fourteen million on average I think the the deal is fifteen million or lower. I don't I don't think he warrant sixteen billion although because you're talking about sixteen million you're talking about De'andre Hopkins in up. So it goes Hopkins Cook Evans. Green Beckham Hill. Thomas Cooper and Julio Jones and I don't think he's an Michael Thomas I don't think he's better than any of those guys. It'll be interesting. I think Juju plays somewhere else. We differ. I think he stays land. Says he's gone all right so here. We go next question from Austin. We'll try to get all these done before the end of the show. Where do you see James Connor? One year from now. Do you think this is the year he turns it around or will someone take his place possibly a draft pick personally? I've grown tired of disappointment. Injuries in onfield play as much as I liked him as a person. Where do you see James Conner in one year in the national football league but not playing for the steelers? I tend to agree and he would have to have another proble year to make me think otherwise and so I think we agree on that. One is just not in the cards right now. For James Condo remained with the steelers. And you know a lot of people will be disappointed. But you know it's it's the nature of the beast pretty much Which steeler from Thomas Cole? Which steeler free agent will perform the best slash? Have the biggest impact. He is comparing Steven Nelson to James Farrior. That's a tough one. Because they're both free agent. Acquisitions I see. Ferrier came from the jets Nelson from the chiefs in first free agent stint in the NFL. That's James Farrior was really good. Very good yeah. Good verse Nelson at a star. Would you say ceiling be that type of player? That impact player I do. I mean I do because of the importance of the quarterback position. I mean you have and I and I'll say right now. I think he's better than eight and I think he had a better year than aiden and with hating getting older. You know at least you have that one side of the field. Pretty much locked up. I think the Nelson free agent signing is going to be one of those signings we look back on and say you know that that was a nugget. That Cobra pulled out of his hat in for a pretty good price to absolutely and Nelson was the highest paid free agents dealers history day one transit. They knew what they knew what they wanted. They went and got him and I. I'm going to be honest to Stephen. Who What and shockingly the when the cheese got rid of him and low let him walk. I reached out to the chiefs website. And they were like you know. This guy's no good and I had really low. Expectations is that he played really well above the expectations. I had formed. That's awesome to see okay. Next was from Persian in. Bobby's dad his twitter handle not mine. If two it has another injury plagued season is a time to move on no. I don't think it's time to move on. I think you got too much money yet again. I mean some of these answers you know you know. It's all always the three. Ps performance pain pedigree right and I it in sometimes players. It's it's just it's just pay. I mean it's you. It's you look at the dead. Cap Charge. I mean if they I mean but I'll say this with Mr third and fifth. They absorbed in an absorbent amount of dead money. So it's not to say that they won't do it but typically when the dead money in the cap savings are distorted so in twenty twenty one so if they were to cut him. Let's say this year they're dead money. Chart would be seventeen point eight million dollars and they would have a negative cap savings so what that does is that protects the player. That's his insurance. That unless he injured himself to the point where he can't play he will be appointed for the steelers that that ratio doesn't turn around until his last season whereas if he were cut the dead money would be six million in the cavs. Savings would be nine so if you're looking for him to get waived it would be in twenty twenty two not in twenty twenty or twenty twenty one because he's pretty much protected by the amount of dead money charge and yeah he said. Well I think rod youngs is land. Sound Smart Today. You got this. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut. Even a broken Clark is right twice a day now with that said I have a question. This is not from twitter. This is for me simple. You kinda wanted to touch on this. We have about six minutes left in the show will Antonio Brown play in the National Football League in. Hell no real leave. I asked you this a month ago and he said Yes hail not I mean. The guy just got charged with what three more charges today? I think it came out like that. A felony in a couple of hell. No no no no no. He's not playing. He's at a position where great players play his position. Every single cities like you get great receivers that come into the league all the time and he's getting older. He's getting crazier and the longer it takes for him to get on the field. The harder it's going to be. He is never going to play. He needs a year of no noise and another year of no noise puts him one thirty two thirty three. I who needs a thirty-three-year-old small receiver when I could get a dumb guy that's going to run through a bar run through a wall do everything I say. That's twenty one that I can coach in mold. I don't have to bring in some old guy with baggage that thinks. He's a prima donnas superstar. Whose name is gummy Richards. No Way Gummy Richards. Mr Third and fifth will never play again. Let's remember this too while all this stuff's going on with him off the field the reason why no one is signing him is because even if they do sign him he will go on. The commissioner's exempt list. And he will wait. Pundit await punishment whenever his core proceedings are concluded. That's why no one's picking him up and like you said let's say it takes a year for all this stuff to sort itself out from the judicial system and all that if that's the case not only a year older the den if a team signs him the team can still say you're suspended for X. Amount of games for contract conduct detrimental to the league. And so I just think that every single second is is another missed opportunity for him but steeler fans feel like they got the short end of the stick. Here Nanna Raider fans should be really upset. Oh yeah he knew his butt out of the airport that was all he played that really well and then screwed it up activate legal and he played that like a master chess player. Like a Bobby Fisher and then you know. He forgot how to play chess as soon as he got to. New England steeler Fan said. Oh my gosh. All we got was a third and a fifth round. Pick the raiders got absolutely nothing zero not thing and he's probably GonNa win any other reason why I think he's probably GonNa win that arbitration case with the Patriots and probably get his money. I mean that's what makes me sick. And he's probably going to get his money so in but you know it couldn't to a better team than that team up north. They have to pay a B but Kudos to to Robert Kraft for for for what he did earlier. In the week I think Sending the plane to China and bring him back supplies for hospitals to FICO with nineteen. So big up to to Robert Kraft in the Patriots on your tag all right now. Let's take you. They always digging patriots. I mean yes I can't I can't I can't I can't do it. I'd joke with Mario Brothers data at the day-to-day searched the plane for five flicked to Chinese women. Oh my gosh. I can't see you brought out side of me Jeff. I was trying to keep my horns. What you brought. This white is the like I said. We started the show. We might be switching hats today. I might be more hater before. You just never know what you're gonNA get so lance anything to add recall the show. It's been a good show so far. Were any show that I could say Wipes and you could dig. Robert Kraft his bid a great show. I mean wet wipes Robert Kraft Small Asian women in the back of the plane is going to be an excellent show. Exum Oh we have to talk about this Dallas. We were going to talk about this Dallas. He has a question hate on when about that on Wednesday. Because we did. We did check but with that listeners. Hey let's make sure. The Nation is taking care of the nation still nations taken care of steeler nation. Keeping everybody safe you know doing your shelter in place washing your hands. Maybe putting your mask on. Let's make sure we keep everybody safe. Take care of everybody love in. Make sure we keep everyone safe. But with that we're going to conclude the program and is always tune in tell a friend and subscribe. Amen couldn't have said it better. Everyone will see you next week for another episode of the homer in the hater. Show stay blast. We'll talk to you.

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Luck Retirement Fallout + Bold Predictions

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Luck Retirement Fallout + Bold Predictions

"All right fantasy footballers is brought to you by head and shoulders and walmart n._f._l. Fans always love arguing. Whether offense wins the game or is a defense you know oh i think offense head and shoulders is great offense for your hair andy wrong henry shoulders as great defense for the flakes on no matter where you fall on the debate bait head and shoulders will give you a hundred percent flake free scalp fine head and shoulders on walmart dot com a- as long as steen option dot com studios with your host sandy holloway jason moore and mike right <music> welcome in welcome in an of people's fantasy tour concludes tonight. Yes it does right here in phoenix what's going on now. We have last year in phoenix. We did this show. We brought out some bold predictions. We're doing it again tonight. I've got a good one for the top of the show it's too. It's too hot when we throw them out on this show. You think there's no way that this could possibly happen but it just might just might happen. We'll get right into the quick question. We have a great one there as well but i have to hit this button breaking news. Uh well what's today. Is this shows being recorded on the single busiest easiest draft day of the entire year yeah good thing everything's stay status. Quo andrew lock the twenty nine year old quarterback. The indianapolis colts has retired. What a world yeah. We're getting some anybody's this news broken about an hour before we started this show. Is there anybody in the audience. That didn't know until just now. I'm sorry it was in the back. I go to andrew look in the twelfth. It was crazy just dropping aw come up we updated our ultimate draft. Getting somebody sent me a note and they screen shot at it and see down down down down to all the coulter down and he said is there. Is there colts news. I don't know about just a gut feelings to cut. We've got real good intuition so we're starting with breaking news news. We'll circle back to the quick question. Let me read you. The physical toll on andrew lucked six years torn cartilage in two ribs porcelain partially torn abdomen lacerated rated kidney one can caution torn labrum and then this mysterious calf slash teeny tiny bone injury new own new bone but this is the most shocking rocking thing to happen in the n._f._l. And in fantasy football in as long as i can remember i can't think of another thing you know this close to the season for a player to retire and not just like a player isn't like oh the journeyman right guard ryan is hat finally hangs them up. No this is andrew luck. This was early in the offseason prior to the calf injuries. The colts were my super bowl. Pick their tickets looking right now. Look i just i'm gonna i'm gonna this is a bold insult. Obey event old prediction show. I'm going to right now right here. Predict superstar. I don't think it comes through. I don't think the colts win. The super bowl anymore spicy beyond andrew lock who went from not playing in two thousand seventeen to comeback player of the year thirty nine touchdowns last season two now retiring t. y. Hilton marla mac name hines airing hebron what happens now. I think it's pretty rough you know in in truth when i updated my rankings as insane as it is. The only person even looks like they could be value for the colts in my reading. He's is actually oh yes sir jacoby beef brisket jacoby but i mean we had to dig through the volt as all. I know that's real andy. I know we disagree on the outlook for t._y. T. y. hilton and i now have as in a half point scoring as my wide receiver twenty-seven so he's not a relevant. He's still going to be a fantasy there. Were there were like audible moans and and grounds when you said that yeah i mean i it stinks you. Take a guy who has from my dynasty to be oh man. I remember having him yeah. You hilton hilton twice in his illustrious career. Twice has been under the thousand yard mark once was his rookie season and once was the year that that he played the entire year without andrew luck. Yeah it's not good. It's not good for t. y. Hilton as a player that can lead the lead lead the league in yardage edge with a quarterback. We both move jacoby set to the swanee range at the quarterback position based on what we think you can do. I think he was the best backup in the league arguably but you're going from a top five quarterback to any at best and this is unfortunate now. The situation for jacoby perset isn't the same that it was in twenty wants better different coaching staff. I mean you've spent most of your love frank and then in two thousand seventeen. He was pressured on forty percent of drawbacks. That's the sixth highest number in the league so a better offensive line trying to find a silver lining for somebody but marlon brando max breakout season goes out the window. Most likely you're not on the goal line. You're not moving the football. Marlin mac is the player that is the most. I single handedly. He is affected the largest because this is a player who's not pass catching back. This is a player who dominated in the games where he was winning this. This was a player who if you look at the game splits in games where they won by wide margins mac dominated as he was running out the clock he had touchdown opportunities. He is a perfect back for an andrew luck lead colts and he's not aback that i would believe in as much and with him so he was almost a my guy dodge that bullet you should've known i mean we all knew andrew. Luck yeah yeah yeah so i mean he's a guy that now is like rb thirty for me. I'm not <hes> if you're drafting being right now this week a._d._p. Doesn't matter you need to use the rankings like if you if you've got the ultimate draft kit and you're you know our rankings are now updated in that use those versus a._d._p. For as the wind should i take marla mac because none of the a._d._p. Is going to make any sense in your home leagues. Do you expect any of these calls to drop to the point point where they are going to be drafted. Values look there. You both moved helton lower than i did. I have eighteen now i moved to i moved him down. He he finished his year with it was under a thousand but he was almost there however when you look at how he got there it was four huge games. What's great those four weeks for spectacular predictable but you had to play him every single week to get those four weeks. The one player where i did nothing to his is stat projection. There was a player in in two thousand seventeen hundred eight targets eighty receptions. Now is the man with those baby hands jack doyle find a way to make this good for jack doyle now. I'm just saying we have we have. We're saying hey targets smaller handed men right. Maybe maybe that's what he's attracted attracted to or maybe it's that he just is like up jack doyle take the ball. We're gonna circle. There'll be ramifications for this andrew. Luck situation that go well beyond this show. We'll talk about it throughout the next couple of weeks and into the season look. I do want to throw out one one quick name. I know it's it's it's deeper. It's an dynasty league first of all. If you're on a dynasty league pick up to kobe percent. Don't don't just let the andrew luck owner. Get them for free. Okay glenn make it cost money or or get him for yourself <hes> <hes> but if you're in a deep league and you gotta trash bench chad kelly is like jacoby percents of very good backup but chad kelly name you might not be familiar with is a great quarterback who i believe has the potential to be a great quarterback who has been just a terrible human being and it it has. Let's just say he's had poor decisions sir so you want to see you want them to make the good decision to put him on their dynasty. What's up to you but take a little peek ski all right. We'll circle back to this quick question before before we get to that. I do want to give it up for saint jude this entire. We're very very very proud to be partnering with saint jude children's research hospital throughout this entire tour. All of our proceeds from this event here in phoenix are going straight to saint jude. They've been an incredible partner. You guys know a dollar from every ultimate draft. Get straight to saint jude's so appreciate their support were proud to be partners and then we wanna thank pristine auction. They've sponsored this tour as well and they've been great. Partners were given away this autographed david johnson helmet at the end of this this show and he he looked pretty good today the s. looking up. I swing the pendulum back a little bit. No i kept him where it was still top five. Here's six i dunno. We're going back to the well on this quick question. We asked it here last year best player player analogy for twenty nine hundred so simple your your best play last year. I compared sam bradford to oh you and i you nailed it but listen. I respect you. I'm i'm not going back to that well. I'm not going to do that again and obviously joy bell retired so i don't have a player comp at me and see innocent still out there. I compared him to professional running back but what's your player. Analogy may all right. I'll set the table here. I how many guys how many your father's out here. How many dads do we got on the crowd so most of you also have dads as well. That's that's kind of how it works but here's the thing yes you're talking to me. I haven't hit it yet personally but there's a day in every father's life where he loses an arm wrestling to his son and that day you go. You got me this time son. You're tussle his hair. You say how proud you are of the man he's becoming but in your heart you think that was once that was just that was just a one off but authentic starts to eat you inside new they and then joking if it's not like you jokingly while some. We've got a rematch because that was garbage. I was was on five hours of sleep bob. Let's go and then you arm wrestle and you lose again and then you bring up something else. You say let's race and you lose the race because once you have lost to your son you never win again. You're going in different directions on the aging scale as the father. You may say i just got this awesome new job and now i'm weak making way more money than you but it doesn't matter because you're not going to score more fantasy points because your son is james connor and the father is levy on bell who has been surpassed by his son. James aims connor. I like i like it. I don't i don't know if all three of us agree but i do a great option. I just like the despite the fact that on different teams now you still are pinning them firmly against one on another look back yeah. No bells not going to look at every single box score of james connor. You probably will bring it. He's he's going to bring it to adam gays and say <hes> james connor got seven targets this week. I got three. What's going on here all right so i'm gonna bring up another former former steeler and i'm going to take that. I'm going to say remember that super bowl how ping antonio only oh brown is the wizard of oz because holon though wizard. He is the wizard zirkin okay in the wizard of he's the wizard of oz. Here's here's now. He's the wizard. Hold on hold on okay. Let's just make sure to make sure you get it. Antonio brown right wizard is the same but in ause ause all right were there tony brown the wizard of oz. Here's how you've all seen the movie the wizard of oz this unbelievably powerful you know someone has if you haven't seen the wizard of what's wrong with you the as you you need to do a little a little update on your <hes> movie watching in time so the wizard is this all powerful unbelievable being of a magic that can grant any wish there all the i i mean he's just so good just like you antonio brown the number one wide receiver in football for so long. He's the best but then eventually we get to look inside signed the curtain and he's a crazy person. You peel back to proving go. Oh this dude just some maniac pulling levers going nuts talking out of his butt that riding around in a hot air balloon little hot air balloon making crazy demands right like you bring me there which is brewed stick. You give me my old helmet but here's the thing here's the thing for fantasy in the end. Even though the wizard was a crazy person he look he got the job. Done dorothy got home. The lion got his courage tim me and has in the scarecrow had a brain. I think antonio joanie o. Brown is a crazy person. That's going to be just fine football. It's going to get the job done if he's dropping third round. Scoop them up that went for me thinking you were out on him to accommodate all the way back around. Fantasy wise is very pretty talented. Crazy just like the wizard nothing to see here all right well. That was incredible. You won't be able to follow it but we're out here in arizona. How do feel outside today. Adam gates outside not a safer word bro not nice outside. If you're in arizona you spend five seconds outside much less work out there. Go for a walk. Walk to your car from the mall. Whatever you do in arizona it's hot. You're thirsty. You're parts. You need a drink. Drink you turn to your friend. You say hey toss me a refreshment aaron. Jones is a frozen water bottle. You know what it can do. You know that you want that thirst quenched. You want that refreshment for your fantasy team but you can't do anything with it. Maybe you wait a little while. Maybe weight and you get a couple. It drops week to week five a couple of drops here and there unlike my colleague. I don't find it a point in his favor that he's playing on the team that ran the ball. The least of every team in football and matlock floors supposed to be the savior except for he's historically run the least amount of plays of any team in football over the last couple of years. I love aaron jones. I know the refreshment. He could be for my fantasy team but i'm afraid i'm not going to get very often here and there but that's why i think he's frozen water bottle. Here's the thing about the frozen water bottle halfway halfway through the day in arizona now a refreshing water arnold already dead all right. Let's get into the rest of the news news notes from around the league presented vice labor. I mean we're with you on this. Andrew lucked situation and all this breaking news six exc game tonight. We came in thinking that the headline was carry on johnson lost his center for a couple of weeks for recent news. I don't normally have my phone out. I've gotta have my phone app today. Because what else is going to have homes. What's going to happen. Lamar miller in previous top headlines lines yeah lamar miller card from saturday's preseason game against the cowboys left leg injury. Some of you've seen the replay. Some haven't ah i won't watch it is bad. It's not good all indications adam schefter tweeted. It looks they believe a._c._l. Tear there are the people that drafted andrew luck and lamar miller today. Oh and that's why we say draft as late as possible. Yeah i mean in your draft. Go ahead and wait until after week three of preseason to do you're drafting but here we are lamar miller likely gone for the season houston favorites in division even more so now and what do we do. They have duke johnson. Do they have their hockey dot dot dot yes. Oh for the people well home listening. The phoenix crowd arches yelling names of whoever they want to go to houston melvin. Gordon carlos lied shawn mccoy. Someone yelled andrew luck. Adrian peterson should be out andrew luck. This just go get marlin mac. There's here's the thing do johnson's a pretty good running back. Yes him holding up them. Turning the reins over to permanently only doesn't seem likely but today people are drafting people are thinking about what duke johnson is for the rest of the season. I had a couple of leagues right took them with you. Know last round picks in the last round. Pick almost dropped him for somebody else but now what is he for fantasy owners and do you expect liked them to bring another name in like ajay gye to have to they have to do johnson is not a big enough. What about josh ferguson that low josh ferguson notable buddy how it's like buddy that we were going to do that. You don't know the so very well yeah exact- oh sorry <hes> yeah look and mary tyler moore's not getting done either so the the reality is they have to bring someone now. Are they going to be able to trade for adrian peterson. Everyone wants him to go. Get melvin gordon. Yes that would be delightful. That'd be awesome the more that i think about it. I can't imagine that happening. They don't have g._m. They can make a trade like they traded for duke johnson. You call bill but do you call bill and you say hey bill. You're sexy rexy now bill bryan oh he's the d._a. He sees where he is the g he worked to do johnson trade right but but they didn't have to restructure a contractor and right now melvin gordon's contract is it's not happen easy or going well to restructure so i can't imagine them getting the deal done without a g._m. For melvin gordon but i do i think they have to bring someone in g._s._i. So when i look at duke johnson he's someone you have to pick up. You have to draft if he's if he's falling right now. He looks valuable but i do temper my expectations -tations because i think he can't be a guy that comes out and gets two hundred thirty carries. He's he's never had more than one hundred and four carries and that was his rookie season. He's never had more than three hundred seventy nine rushing yards now that that doesn't say that duke johnson can't do it look at damian williams exactly it just says that combined with their depth chart they are. They have to make a move as as a contending team that they're goal is the super bowl. Their goal is not. We hope we win the division. Their goal is to win the super bowl. They have to add a running back time miss <music>. I'll i'll miss alfred blue. Oh said noah that's the most likely outcome. Is somebody like alfred. I mean carlos hyde darwin thompson daryl williams damian williams all played ahead of them. Follow sides probably not going to make the roster. That's the kind of player that's gonna come in and screw up high hopes for duke johnson with i mean they're willing to give alfred blew the ball but but still i asked asked as like right now so this is saturday night monday. It could be a way different thing but right now from drafting tonight. I'm willing to take the seventh round gamble full on what duke johnson could be. We also know that pass catching is in his profile not that shawn watson has historically pass to the running back very much but we know that cam newton didn't pass to the running back very much until he had a guy who was fantastic at that he had that skill set so i'm still going to take the gamble of what duke johnson could be even though i in in my heart. I believe that carlos hyde shady mccoy j._j. One of those guys is going. They come in and kind of rain on the parade. All right we will talk more pre season thoughts from week three the remainder of the games some takeaways on her next next show two quick ones though i might as well hit this dede westbrook john de filippo best route runner he's ever around off. Your arms just stops if feel like he's actually complimenting. You might little bit a little bit. Does it the timing wing of the breakout of duty westbrook in that preseason game. They were something special still feel very good about deal. Yes yes. I feel very confident. That dede westbrook is going to be a c._p._r. Machine frank gore rushed eight times for fifty seven infinite. He is all his gore gore. I mean uh dudes duties fifty years old playing running back and here's what's great who doesn't lose that arm wrestling man yeah order. Gordon never loses he. If you didn't see the preseason game he had this he breakaway run. He looked great. He goes goes out of bounds. Another defender comes in illegal flagged shot murders. His knee just looks exactly like lamar miller. The foot is planted in the in the turf and he has to go off. He's injured five minutes laters back there. Look a beast of course is busy because he has the infinity stones. It's rubbed it on his knee and he's good to go but it does but it does. Bring me into your circle. No i don't think bring cores rostrum but it does. I'd say that shady is looking very good. He is the clear back. Frank gore appears to be the secondary option which just a little bit of cold water for this season for redraft leagues on devon single terry breaking into fantasy relevance fair enough thoughts all right that was <hes> today's news and notes brought brought to you as always by the sleeper app which was almost completely. Does your news you better have the sleeper up a foot clan. We we wanna thank longtime supporter and sponsor and maker of awesome razors harry's for help and support the show a lot of guys are traveling this summer and you're buying disposable razors but look you don't have to sacrifice quality for price you can join the ten million who have traveled leveled and tried harry's harry's delivered high quality travel friendly shave supplies at a great low price just two dollars per blade. They literally bought a factory in germany just to make sure that they can manufacturer at a great price with a great played this summer. 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Oh we got a rhythm up for the next limestone like peter pan at a at a theater so just album crass this courts out of order now bold predictions that means they're guaranteed to come. I'm true right. Oh yeah that's what makes them so bold. That's why they will be reflected perfectly in our rankings. We'll get there sir all right who wants to go first with a ridiculously bold prediction pony nineteen. The beginning of the end should start at the beginning getting we'll. We'll get around to but i'll kick it. Oh okay. I'll kick it off era. Go juju smith schuster. A star has been born. He's going supernova well just in a way not in a literal way the scientists typically because that would be like the end gened do schuster finishes this season as the number one wide receiver in fantasy football see. Here's the thing i was asked weeks ago. I was asking people like can i even do that because even legal. I don't even feel like spicy like he has such good odds of finishing at the number one wide receiver position. Here's here's how much vegas odds. I feel like when he was passed on his numbers that i saw he was like doing alex rodriguez with the mir. I is this a spicy. Take jason no and then he gave himself a smooch yeah. You're darn right high five and a little kiss on the mirror every morning. That's my team. Here's the thing first of all there's a couple of reasons. Why believe this. He has a quarterback that can do it. He has the targets the touchdowns those those three reasons are why he's going to be able to look big. Ben big been over the last six seasons. Five seasons has averaged forty eight hundred yards and thirty the two touchdowns. That's his sixteen game pace over the last half decade now. Antonio brown is gone in crazy. He's gone but remember. His fantasy finishes four to three. These are his ranks on the season one one that means i i six. He is obviously everyone talks about antonio. Brown is the goat of this last decade. He is great and i'm not trying. Take anything away from brown but i am saying that ben rothlisberger factually can support eight talented wanted wide receiver to become the number one. We know that without like that's the not up for debate. He's done it twice and every year atop six option so he's already got the quarterback into that can focus on him then you look at touchdowns and this is really what it comes down to for me you. If you wanna finish at number one in wide receiver you have to have double digit touchdowns in fact you're talking about twelve point six touchdowns per season over the last five years ears tyreek hill two thousand eighteen twelve touchdowns hopkins thirteen touchdowns jordi fourteen touchdowns antonio brown twice ten and thirteen and two marys areas thomas fourteen touchdown. I miss you and i know right. You have to score a bunch of touchdowns so who can get that high who out there obviously hopkins could davante adams can do it. Yeah tyreek hill can do it back. I'm evan second. Mike evans can get up there with with with touchdowns but but julio julio probably not michael thomas probably not antonio brown with derek carr probably not obviously do could because of big ben do had seven been touchdowns last year and was tackled within the two yard line five times. I mean that's already twelve and now you have fifteen vacated vacated touchdowns from antonio brown but i get it. You're like well. He can't go yeah vance dance. I the vacated touchdowns custody has made me think advance. I love it. I love it. He'll get his two. I'm not saying he gets fifteen more touchdowns juju but why not but this is the bold prediction twenty two you total touchdowns. You heard it here. I i know for a fact. I've been around you far too often. I've heard this percolating in you for months. Stay where you just believe that juju could hint up number one these which is not something that i believe he's super delicious. He's super talented super reportedly. He is super talented and the thing is you go well. He can't go up from last year. He had one hundred sixty six targets whereas you're gonna go well antonio brown over the last five years. Here's averaged one hundred eighty-one target. I see you wrote in here so yes. He can thank you in making you as to me. No oh you fell into the trap. You said yes he can forget to say yes. He can ask so. Yes juju smith schuster twenty nine hundred wide receiver the number one okay mic europe. Oh all right austin actor finishes two thousand nineteen eighteen as top twelve running back. Yes yes someone drafted austin clerk at. We're on the same team. We all know the situation for austin actor melvyn gordon. He's a little bit disgruntled. In here's this uh-huh we we don't know for sure how long can melvin gordon hold out. Contractually it might be eight games. It might be ten games james. Let's say that he holds out ten games. The los angeles chargers at that point. Maybe there in the playoff hunt maybe they aren't aren't but maybe a player comes back and even though he can help the team the team says screw. You aren't coming back as the starting running back. You are now behind our starting running back. That's official legally. That's what they would put in the document. I'm just taking the stroll down narrative street man's the storefronts are lovely. You should join me every once in a while. Austin is a good player great pass catcher second and in yards after the catch last year third in yards per reception fifth in yards per target can the can the team like the worry. Oh melvin gordon gone the los angeles chargers. They're not good okay games with gordon. The average twenty seven points a game. How many points did they average in the four games. That gordon missed. I twenty seven points. Similar number was fine games without gordon including the win. Gordon went down with the injury echo. Equa averaged seven point seven five targets game almost eight targets a game eleven carries. You're talking nineteen opportunities. Ah game for austin eh eh cler. He scored a rushing touchdown in two of those four games where melvin gordon was gone. Austin is the starting running back for this team. Short could shakeout that justin jackson eats into now. It's a fifty fifty timeshare your banking on ecuador scoring anyway right. I mean that's well. I mean that's not the key need to pass catching volume that touches for laura far more important. You're not looking at him. Like legare blunt has to fall into the end zone to give value. We just did our top ten tips and tricks. When i talked i highlighted top ten running baragan. They always have fifty or more receptions and there's usually two wildcards who sneak in austin fits that bill l. he melvin gordon is gone for the majority of the season he will easily easily see more than fifty receptions and it's not like this team with philip. Rivers hasn't seen a small small running back. A small stature guy have success member danny woodhead off the heart stone the original the original just at the end of the year. It just kept popping up as a running back one each year you go wise danny woodhead here. Austin ecuador could be the new danny woodhead. There are always a couple every year james white rico so in last year with gordon seven games inside the top twenty four. It's interesting and it. The weird thing is keenan allen. I mean right now. We think he's fine roy. The draft in a mike is fine but if that injury cropped up you already lost tyrel mike williams isn't necessarily a volume type of receiver no more antonio gates. It's interesting that target's old probably wrong but very interesting. We're here to hold his spicy and i love it all right. I'll give you mine. The atlanta falcons will have a player finished inside the top twelve at every single fantasy football position so in twenty seventeen. There were two teams that did it last year two teams. It was kansas city. It was pittsburgh right right correct out to big ben again. Oh yeah i've heard this prediction before because you made it on this show last year but you picked the wrong team. You're like an over four but the falcons. I don't think anybody debates the merits of matt ryan being in the top twelve well get. I'm just saying i do not stand out ryan twelve of sixteen weeks last year. Matt ryan was in the top twelve finished just on that week alone. I'm told that's good. Yes pretty decent because you're the year at the top of the position so i don't want to get into what we don't have time for it or you will l. deal with it in counseling. <hes> julio jones you wanna debate that went to no he's. He's gonna be in so then. You're really talking about devante onto freeman who's being drafted at rb fifteen right now climbing into the top twelve. You have to bank on health with devante freeman which is not. You don't really want to have to do that but the last two times yet full sixteen game seasons he was well within that range he was at thirteen rb thirteen when he played a shortened two thousand seventeen season fourteen gene game still finished at rb thirteen. The competition behind devante freeman is it's almost as bad as it is behind duke. John says we add as he does smith and we are. You know where we are with these three. We're in lockstep now. The players the kids yeah now you have to talk about austin hooper which is not fun to talk about. No hoover wakes up in the morning. He goes into the bathroom and there's a picture of jason waiting in the corner of the mirror now and that's a great aspiration right today whitten today. It's crazy awesome who has been really really jason whitney as in fine fine as in dozen throughout the season on a consistent basis just kind of find himself in that top range. He actually has the best reception percentage of any tight end in football. Since the start of two thousand sixteen seventy seven percent of the ball thrown his way he catches them last year he had six weeks where he finished inside inside the top seven at the tight end position so it's never been sexy to play austin hooper and it never will be just like jason win but i think he can climb his way and that's why i think the falcons could have four of them in the top off. I think that's good all right now. Let's talk about a great prediction and gone wrong. This would be my my prediction last year. The beginning of the end for the new england patriots needs. I apologize. I apologize the beginning of the end for the super bowl champion new england patriots last last year so they did. They are the superbowl champion so here's the thing as to why i say is great is great hall okay. I i remember we victory. Remember when you jason moore said that yes so here's the thing the reason this whole thing started every year. I predict my fantasy team that i think is overdraft. Overdraft that is going to bus for bansi. It's twenty sixteen. It was the carolina panthers cam and kelvin benjamin. We're going way too high. They both failed on the season twenty seventeen eighteen terrell pryor the washington redskins yet terrell pryor jordan reed jamison crowder rob kelley all going six and ahead and they pretty much all busted did that year last year was the patriots because of the patriots took the narrative street that is the beginning of the end whoops but for fantasy gronk doc was in the second hogan was in the fourth. Josh gordon was in the fourth brady was in the fifth and rex burkhead was in the sixth. They busted. They were not good so for fantasy. The bowl prediction of you don't want to draft these players right. So my team is here. You will not like what i have to say. You are correct at all. I get people love this team and i'm gonna take dome pony. The cleveland blend brown so sorry everyone's news sweetheart but look andy. You said you said right the last couple years there's only been two teams that have had a quarterback running back a wide receiver a tight end finish in a- as a one well that the cleveland browns right now are being drafted that way. I mean in baker shove and beckham. They're all being drafted to finish as one one. Now is the cleveland browns if for them to return value. The only way that they return value is that they are a great offense and now i'm i'm not saying they can't be a great offense like i love baker. This hurts me because bakers bigger will be such a cool best friend joe. Yes you would multi baker but but baker's being drafted as the fourth quarterback he has not proven anything yet odell beckham on a new team and when i was going through the top ten <hes> tips and tricks lists about avoiding risk in the first round. I realized that the last two years the same guys being drafted in the first round. That's busted both years. It was odell beckham. He has not been a model of health. These played fewer games than sammy watkins and they were drafted in the same year. Nick chubb is a great deal and he it looks unbelievable. Kareem hunt is coming back this season and he he played last season. I mean he was the running back eleven. I'm just saying there's a lot more risk like they are. The sexy mayor the anti austin hooper like everyone wants to get on board with the coolness of baker myself included but as a fantasy analyst like oh they haven't done it yet. They have a head coach. That's unproven. They have an organization that has historically mismanaged navy top division. They have a tough divis- take you under saying. I think browns earned my like. They're overpriced end so just aware figure out the super bowl bats right now as you might with all on the browns because maybe the win the super bowl and you'll be right if they win the super super bowl just wait for next year steam and bad big bet the cardinals over and over for my sake all right. We're going to do our live malay. Speaking of cardinals were in phoenix arizona three. You should probably let me finish. We are three children of the of the valley of the sinus. We are die hard arizona cardinals fans we charles for life. We wear it on her sleeve. I know that ah there. There's some other jersey sprinkled throughout here but you heard it. We are mostly in arizona carl country. We're excited. We're very excited for the arizona cardinals else. We're not gonna win the super bowl this year. I'm sorry to break into. Everybody and i have to preface my bowl prediction with that because it kind of will hurt. It's it's inter divisional cooper. Comp is going to lead the league in touchdown receptions. Cooper up has only played in twenty three of the possible thirty two games that he has been in since he's been in the league in that time he has the seventh most red red zone receptions that he has ten in broken tackles and he is sixth in yards after catch of qualified wide receivers cooper cub is really freaking good last year. He basically played full snaps in five games five. He was on pace to score twelve touchdowns in the he is. He's on an unbelievable offense. He is the primary red zone option in the last two years ears. Jared goff has thrown forty six touchdowns in the red zone. That's the most in the league five and a half red zone attempts per game for jared gov. That's right there with tom. Brady andrew lock our yes rest in peace and patrick mahomes still so crazy. It's it's real fresh but here we are. We have to move on goober cup. It's i i. It's crazy for me to be endorsing horsing this player who's coming off of an a._c._l. Tear but two thousand nineteen is apparently it just a wild year with android tiring emmanuel sanders returning from an injury that nobody returns from and cooper cup enter training camp all systems go and has looked nothing but spectacular encamp todd. A girl has forty six touchdowns in the last four years for the rams including seventeen last year thirteen the year prior. If you believe in in an adjustment to the offense of philosophy for his health's sake then maybe you turn to cup everett you you cooks around the goal line not necessarily a target so it's interesting exceptionally spicy the a._c._l. Tear people afraid you get jay glazer coming out and saying you looks better than ever before which i have not normally said about an a._c._l. Tear so it's interesting. How confident are you. Where's the poll takes like super confident unbelievably confident number one in your rankings patriot beginning of the end end confident one more yes super confident chris carson ends the season as the top five fantasy football running a lot of cheers for chris carson some booze okay people we were like we're kind of on board with cooper cup but running back in the division yeah so when i look at chris cox bands ads there are two players that i'm just insane excited about this year chris carson's one of them sony michelle is the other one and now you can take them both at like third and fourth round in a lot of leaks. If you wanted to go wide receiver wide receiver you could is it a leap to say that chris carson could be a top five running back over the course of the season last year ear number seven in the league in total rushing attempts on the season despite missing two games on the season number five in rushing yardage for the whole season and all this speculation about what if what if he catches more pass he seems to have a clearly rashad penny that has only grown over the course of of this entire preseason from week eleven on last year so seven full games in the season he averaged nineteen point four carries a game on a team that runs more than anybody else else. Your eyebrows mike they'd just ro- that's a lot of carries ninety three yards a game. That's three hundred and eleven carry pace. That's a fourteen hundred ninety five rushing yard pace. That's a sixteen touchdown pace. He was a number four running back in that span behind like saquon mccaffrey and then the great wonderful wonderful derrick henry to end the year so multiple times last year and this season where he did that. He wasn't even targeted at all. I mean there were five different games that he played in where he had a lot of carries never even got targets. He's got the best teams on the play. Lead the reports around that all you need you do as pepper in one or two more targets given that kind of workload. You know what that team wants to do so it's bold because he's being drafted as the rb eighteen right now by my fantasy owners but i think he finished his how how is decay met metcalf doing right now poorly. How is david moore doing right now poorly <hes>. They're going to need to throw to someone other than tyler lockett so i i liked anything weird to me andy so you gave the the from week eleven on as is a decent enough sample size and his post post by right it was a pace of three hundred eleven but if you actually look at it was week three when he took over even carry if you go from week three on which is pretty much a season sample size he was still a three hundred and twelve kerry pace he's going to get i mean normal amount of work. It's just just a matter of will. He be involved in the past game if they stay healthy but that's the real ira for anybody to finish in the top five. You've got to stay healthy so i think that rounds out the bold predictions addictions. I think we're going to get into the mail bag. I hope you're going to bring it to get the microphone setup warm the voices up final one of the ear phoenix final mailbag drop of the year phoenix. I don't know how prepared they all do hear him get the license. You here thank you. There are no house lights. Okay all right told the fire marshal. You guys ready here. We go mail bag. It was just a calm before the storm now. He's pretty good -able first question all right. Let's jump into the mailbag shirt. Give name sub guy johnson talking the mind just a little bit. Let's do like that. What's your name buddy. John styles else what's up likewise so we in my draft. It's point zero four point per yard and so okay how i was trying to see how should i how does that affect my rankings going in my draft tomorrow point zero four point per yard. Are you talking about receiving and rushing. What are you talking about quarterbacks quarterbacks. It's point zero four point per yard point zero four point per yard. It doesn't change anything we get the question. Oh quarterback skit only five points. It doesn't change how you think of when you say does real line quarterbacks orbits sure i it's oh we get a point per completion. It just changes out who's at the top. It's not going to change your strategy because every every single quarterback is going to drop back and they're gonna throw the ball twenty to twenty five times. I mean that's why the streaming of the position is so viable. That's why every year you're over. Forty quarterbacks hit a quarterback one week and and it's not like it's what i never saw that coming. It's no the backup is is at home and he's playing against the garbage defense. We can all see it coming a mile away fantasy players the n._f._l. People out there. They're always shocked at these backup. Quarterbacks put up numbers. Meanwhile fantasy players like yeah because that's what they always do so it might change out as you say ryan a big win. It does change kind of the variants quarterbacks you know you talk about matt ryan bouncing back and forth that's because of touchdowns because a yard eighth straight years of four thousand yards or wherever he has just rearranged the bax to focus on those that have a lot of passing missiles. Do you have an ultimate draft. Shameless close due the scoring system into the and that'll wool organize it for yeah just never problems say. Her name is amazing. The guy's going hi. I'm linda novel <hes> to meet you linda. I'm so excited to be here. My question is on my harry repoter league series of unfortunate circumstances. My first pick was number twenty four. What's so yet ed hey so. Is this a situation when you would pick a quarterback i or what would your strategy be. When that's your first pick it actually pushes me the opposite direction if that's your first pick because you're now at a lower tier running backs and they run out quick so i'd be looking to get the core four late round for the quarterback situation right yeah i mean you've gotta stack running backs and wide receivers as much as you can for as long as you can because because you know that at the very end of the draft you can take josh allen at quarterback and you'll be fine. Don't waste an early pick because you don't have. I know i guess i was. I was thinking you would say it wouldn't change it. There was mahomes and all they had picked so far was running backs and wide receivers and these has this artist. This is already so no you have badly. I took her home. I do have often on this thing. I got bishops. Were you seeking approve loop okay so wait hold on failed after i had clicked not necessarily though i understand they. Have you have austin cler. What are what are your other running backs out of curiosity in a league where you took my homes. I can't remember the my whole list of okay. I got a bunch of breakout geico picks from your kit so i'm kind of excited about that. My son looked at it doesn't look too bad so okay. I hope one of the breakout picks that you did get which we just pulled. Tonight was not marlin mic no good so by the way it's it's awesome to have patrick mahomes. I think that gets lost sure z. Of late round quarterback discussion. It's super cool. I had him last year and a bunch leagues. I loved it. I was a big fan. The thing that gets you know having a great quarterback is what you want in fantasy. It just puts you in a position where you need to hit on the later draft picks more consistently and because fantasy football so so much variation injury and we we talk about stacking running back stacking wide receivers to protect against injury to protect against variants. It just puts you in a position where you have hit on them later. It doesn't mean that you fail. The draft have patrick mahomes means. You got the best quarterback and football in the waiver wire. If i was in that position the draft that may or may not have happened honestly i am. I'm stacking up wide receivers early because the wide receivers going thing in that range they're going to produce maybe you hit on one or two of them and they jump into that elite category but the running backs later later on they gain value as the season goes along you. Just you see it happen because of injury so i'm going to because i don't have early picks. I'm gonna take the more sure sure thing to know that i'm scoring points every week and make sure that the tony pollard's justin jackson that none of them are on the waiver wire morita because you could you could scoop them up and have a starting running running back week one so welcome linda next whereas here comes the man eater what's up for for those who can't see. He's he's wearing a whole notes shirts. I thought that was something for like really tall. People were man eaters or something. Take a ten minute. I can't go for that. The one ono's song. He doesn't like a reference. I'm sorry how do you guys families feel about fantasy asi football like the kids play your wife play it do they. That's a great question because today what time day both my boys who are here. You're drafted there. I avoid they drafted their first teams and much like linda. I let them find way through aaron rodgers in the first bedroom homes in the second for one of them but no i mean i think they've rallied around at one of the things we love about fantasy. Football is the fact that it can be very inclusive of the family if you make it that way when we started this show it was about hey. How do you not just win but have fun in create a league. That's fun with great people and that includes like not running off to the basement to watch football while your family does something else also right so it's been very fun for them. Obviously i get paid to do fantasy so it's changed my wife's perspective from what it was before yeah. I did this but no. It's been good for our family. My my wife my children right now currently don't they don't participate. I don't think you you know my wife will never participate in fantasy football. So if you're out there in your you've got someone like that. I highly recommend starting a successful fantasy football all podcast because honey. I'm working my my wife. I've convinced her one time to join a fantasy football league. I manage the crap out of that team. How does he do see did very well all right. Thanks thanks sir next question. Hello sir state your name dan kerber. Hey you dan so nice nice to meet. You guys all right. My question is what strategy adjustments do you make for a massive redraft tournament like the mega oh <music> insider trading. How do you think about a big tournament like that. You gotta you play to win by say that sounds ridiculous but you you've got to win your league but then at the end you're going to have to be putting up so many points and so. I'll give you one quick tip. We we talk about on the show. We don't like handcuffing number one because it's unpredictable there are some that are though dalvin cook. I'm fairly confident wouldn't that alexander madison. Alexander madison will be his handcuff if something were to happen devil cook if i draft alvin cooking that league. I'm not drafting alexander madison. I'm drafting chase edmunds. I'm drafting malcolm brown. I'm drafting guys that if something works out against those players now oh my team be transformed from great to incredible you. You have to stack up those players that can really turn the turn the nitro on halfway through the year and there's players like leonard four guys that look they're always say they would be great if they stayed healthy. That's why they're cheaper in the draft. Look the only single person i think we're up to forty five hundred people in the mega ball right now. You can get into join the foot dot com for for another week but you've got your team is going to be healthy like the winters team. Congratulations roy drafted unhealthy players and they didn't deal with a bunch of wacky injuries like you can deal with that in a league of twelve. You can't deal with that in a league of forty five hundred fair enough. Thanks thank you sir four he no. I know what that means. Oh yeah. Do you know what that means. One day i my name's regarding the loeser nice to meet you. Ricardo is the winner john where you teased it so soon. You didn't let us break the news. That's on you. It s not on me thank you. I'm just happy to seattle jersey like the last ten things we've given away ricarda. What is your favorite britt n._f._l. Team before he talks sir eagles. Oh come on hey. Hey the sanders remember. When david johnson broke out against the eagles. Though it was so great we've got assigned big cernan studio but just say a word of wisdom microphones. Pick up your mouth the gum you might wanna hold that back show take your questions so question is in regards to preseason which backfield has carried the most. That's a great great question for me. No i talked about the offensive line. Here's me a lot. I actually think that's more work towards matt ryan than freeman. Freeman great pass country can leak out and is a great pass protector so he's going to be in. This is just selfish. Purely you know oh blood pressure related but as the lions right like i've got so much riding on this i'm like oh no i mean i mean i'm so invested in kerryon johnson perfect example here so today the news the the lions preseason game it had a preseason game some football and i saw a tweet that was talking about how matthew stafford was out there for thirty two snaps and the snap breakdowns carry on johnson had eight and c. J. anderson anderson was twenty two and tie. John was out there bunch and so i'm like go honest to goodness no joke c. J. anderson was almost my today. The <hes> the analogy he was going to be beats like the vegetables i hate them but but then i went and i watch the game and what happened is he doesn't need be he was he was early in the game was i he was in on a couple of third downs and they pull them and he he never got back on the field so that's great news but that one's been stressing me out. I've been worried what about you guys. What tampa bay's backfield looks atrocious. I mean we were watching watching the game the other day and it was like okay if player lost three yards on the kerry and then it was peyton barber. If the player lost five yards on the carry a minute was ronald jones right so that backfield concerns me tremendously because we're trying to scrape and find value especially with bruce arians and i don't know if you've got the player that can do it sure. I'll throw out chicago oh because they aren't playing we. They're giving us nothing in. They're not giving us the insight into okay we can actually you have the freak out that david montgomery got the first eight snaps and then it was mike davis and trico and they aren't. They aren't a wizard of oz and showing us behind the curtain so that ah skittish about schedule. You're paying a fourth-round. Maybe alert round pick for david montgomery. So that's the backfield that has me a little squeamish squeamish the the other one. That's less selfish. Just from what i've seen that has me a little worried would be the bengals with joe mix and their offensive line has looked as bad as advertiser as worried lead with the injuries <hes> you know the amount of offensive miscues and holdings and like it's either they they have a successful run because there was is holding on it and it gets called back hold so joe mixon has nowhere to run. That's concerning. That's what we saw todd gurley a couple of years ago when he went from his his rookie year and he was great this the next year nowhere to run and everyone's calling him a bum congratulations on the big win. Even though you're you're assigned david johnson helmet thank you pristine auction that is going to wrap up this episode of the show again big shoutout to pristine auction our studio sponsor our partner if you haven't checked out precede action head over there dot com and again a big thanks to saint jude dude. This is the wrap up of the whole tour. This is back home. Football is starting. It's going to be a a lot of fun. Thank you phoenix so much and if you're listening at home we'll see you on tuesday. A hobby crossed your draft from surya did good bye bye aw <music> and and thank you you for listening to another edition of the fantasy footballers podcast. Don't forget to visit us on the web at w._w._w. 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PMS 2.0 114 - Bleacher Report Workhorse, Adam Lefkoe, Joins Us For NFL Chatter & Some Incredible Stories

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PMS 2.0 114 - Bleacher Report Workhorse, Adam Lefkoe, Joins Us For NFL Chatter & Some Incredible Stories

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Bleacher Report Ladies and Gentlemen Adam left Oh boy I feel blessed to be here at one world trade lifestyle good Elo it is Tuesday October eighth two thousand nineteen the managers asked a question there the best ticket available for the best price available is available for you the best human on earth by our friends at seeking to right now use Promo Code Pat you get ten dollars off your first order there's very good at quarterback he him not so much play the NFL not easy play the NFL gots NFL's quarterback not easy to do that never really did anything notable when he's on TV MIT esther I might be in the majority here I automatically assumed that's supposed to hate Chris Simms right yeah absolutely I was supposed to hate Christmas he's this guy who is dead drain that's not for not most decided okay but anyways I was excited to have you on live radio we were kinda pushing like delaying things go live and experience something live with our friends at scekic they're the absolute fucking best what do you think about calling the game and while I know that you're a salt of the earth hard worker and I would put his work ethic up against anybody so Kinda shook you to your core little it did because I automatically waiting for you to get here you're in the wrong building not your fault ties it was my fault but once you walked in here you said something to me that was really a mind blower ooh and I think World Trade Oh that's right hi I Smith told left go to go to one world trade which is a couple of buildings over if you do some quick math is for the for buildings ones the big one they much so I'm I'm supposed to like this guy and it makes sense if he's a hard worker I respect the hell on when he first came to bleacher report his agent pushes people around and we heard and like four people came around and I'm like DM tie save me and he just you know big time we're live on the air live on radio and it was overreaction Monday is a big seventeen people touching their ears by the way something pretty big in my defense we are supposed to be at one world trade we are supposed to have a studio in one world down like I do not like watching TV and I'm sure you're around them all the time with analysts that just they got there and they go I know this because I know football it's the worst I you have okay for us all I'm overreacting not know your reaction is proper okay because if you get in the wrong fucking building here world trade yeah we'll get your ass out of here weekly the White Privilege of Chris Simms His dad privilege of Christians will get him every single job and we won't talk about Chris Simms is so time but whenever we were off the that was the biggest mind blower that I've ever had in my life fours little offspring still beautiful building lucky to have here I I think people want world trade thought I was coming to ransack the building because they were like Sir what are you doing told him in a way and so then I turned and I was like screw everybody and so trust me he grinds but I watch him with other people and I go oh he uh-huh proprietary value and then he came in and he has notebooks filled of notes for every game of film he watches he watches every single one and so for store is like the Internet doesn't stop no I had no idea that my schedule was about to become much more than it has ever been in my leisure grind and a years we would be yelling in the darkness where he would have opinions that would be right five weeks later and people will be on TV going like no one saying this and we're saying it every again this celebratory situations I never get to have which is interesting because I think there are people who celebrate after shows get up I assume there's like a little at least a conversation so hard well that's what we gotta do on the Internet and I think that is something that I've been so impressed with you left Oh you're everywhere on bleacher report literally everywhere well I have ownership stake Komo we'll shipman when I got there six years ago I was doing thirty videos a day staring into camera interviewing beat reporters I'd be like they go hey good show guys maybe for this show they're supposed to be one of those maybe for those games or suppose we were onto there's no celebrating its better for your mystique now we have the top three reasons the giants are going to have a great year next year let's talk to the Bergen County Register and I would just sit there and nod my head all right we have Tampa Bay gazette up next the air every day has been a question mark on the radio side so that's been a little bit difficult but I've enjoyed this fall this far I've enjoyed this nfl season thus far what a weekend football that's when you see the human fallibility of people is at those after parties and Adam Amin starts really Sharon how he feels about politics and you're like get the fuck out okay but all the reactions on every piece of show social we put out was you're a spoiled Brat you only have this job because of your dad and it fueled the entire colts team that everybody else rises to in that team is built for the long haul that offensive line winning in the trenches is how you went in December that's how you went in January and that team has and everybody has to rise up Anthony Costanzo has had to change his game so he could fit in with Quinn Nelson who's eight years younger than him Quentin Nelson has set a tone for that entire coats often it'd be for the next thirteen weeks and I've enjoyed our relationship with zone I've enjoyed our relationship with Westwood one US getting on it was just a year big time Clinton Nelson Guy lie did this entire run on get up and on my show today that Quentin Nelson when he was picked sixth overall to the tough that team has gritty and Jacoby can make every play and I said it yesterday a couple times a lot of people come after me yes I know everything runs through the Patriots Tom Brady still alive yes another chiefs are going to be good quick at is about spot on and but I have to keep moving because if not a fall asleep I get it I get it let's talk about your in design some would say I am in zone I have you guys are like we have three shows tomorrow we have to figure out what our contents going to be for Instagram instagram twitter youtube yet doesn't stop well we're on a plane immediately after every the and doctors will get more job you better he thought the colts offensive line was a wall is built from the long haul and for success in it all revolves around your guy quitting now it's funny because I think about when he was drafted all the mock drafts had the colts taking either road it's the war face paint it's the fact that brings down the field after every single play he's the only guy oftentimes that is picking up I'd like all right and so you just grind because there is no there is like you do a game and then everyone was like let's go bureau it's Outta here that's what everybody else does he wants to call this dude out right now and he can't because now he's on NBC not bleacher because now he's a TV guy people don't respect the Internet grinding thing I think that's why learned I want to borrow versa running backs Naim hines passed that one play where you like spins a guy he's the only one there also they love each other like that offensive line Don Smith or tremaine edmonds both really good linebackers now you have Darius Leonard who hasn't played for the last few weeks Quinn Nelson to what you're saying is an identity Hobie makes all of the necessary place he doesn't do anything more doesn't do anything less since frank right comes from that Andy Reid system he loves to tight ends so you're always worried about the ready but this is just you know he's a much different Guy Jacoby percent where's the run the damn ball hat he'll drop a shit or fuck in a press conference interview Ryan Kelly does the same thing now Quentin Elson Costanza do think it's almost like they're just taking this identity of like everybody has picked against the sooners Andrew luck retired everybody's booing the fans that were booing right the coats nation on play action is is cake and you just beat the chiefs without Darius Leonard without me hooker without others and you held them Under v the raiders last week right yes the raiders get this big win over the bears the bears stink by the way Z. by the bears same chat lag we all know it shut it's tough going time. The humidity of that colts team is beautiful yeah a lot of people are coming after me on the Internet for saying that I think this coast him can win I think they can win the Super Bowl because they lost when you go I think you're wrong and then you leave this guy he just speaks the way it is now he's got add he's really do you I've never seen one like this if I had to cross the wall and fight white walkers on bringing the the colts offensive line and they're so good and a player his highlight reel is going to be a three hour fuck motion picture by Scorsese whenever he's done with this thing because all he does is make highly place but the way he plays potential injury prone this coach team including Jacoby has the same mindset of Quinton Nelson where Andrew Luck might have been a little bit nicer his little bit nerdier incredible football player top to relate with everybody ah like last night Justin Houston got a sack and cheese fans they went justin Houston what the sack and she's saying what if Shit's dumped he's two stops away from being out for the rest of the year and I've talked about this mahomes is an electrifying player highlighted change because we were first round pick is humble and his hardworking as that nobody has a fucking excuse 'cause he's the one that can go I got the bags right now AH I've been described as an enigma a lot of these TV people because you walk in I'm watching the kitchen you pace around you bite the end of a croissant you look at someone even centipedes just saying like I can make an argument that that's nine one and we haven't even talked about the fact that they get Baltimore Pittsburgh for tweet in the middle of a game for the second time in three years they thought he was gonNA play that's why they bought season tickets and now they're like he's never played again but the other team in the AFC that I would say Pittsburgh do they make him they said that he wanted to walk off that guy was in no position to make any decisions I think we can all see that by the director zooming in on his face masks scary situation who's unconscious for like ninety seconds that's my number one thing I dislike about media everybody is hoping he's okay so we have to say this so that someone on twitter doesn't go stock in as a guaranteed playoff lock and I'm doing that in week five I like this Fan Warren one in buffalo bills and I'm not saying it's because they're that special oh that sit at home and they're having a glass of water and they're judging people that are actually at the stadium fourth quarter preseason Game Joe's sleaziest people time worth quarter the dolphins twice okay they're already foreign one so they're taking on three of the four suck fest teams there's like off right now so that's a Senate I'm like dude you're the dumbest individuals I've ever heard almost so I said this I said imagine coming back to consciousness I put up a tweet yesterday said hate to see it and it was the standings of the eagles over the cowboys and someone said former fan piece outgrow apple's quotes not only did he bring an attitude to the Indianapolis Colts not only did he bring an entire new mindset but he is set the tone for the entire locker room as the first round draft picks they play the jets bad they this is still to come they play the Washington redskins giants bad at home ski also I mean he thinks too easy tight he does whatever they're potentially wasting that bears defense which very scary concussion and having to think wait is my fucking face mask missing because literally that was the most seen thing I've ever seen eighteen points yes that's fucking crazy field goes to which probably could have been punched in if you had to make a couple of plays and suffering from string qualities probably getting open a little bit more because he was double covered the Glen and playing I will agree with that is tough changing your routine going to England and playing that can be difficult but they're young team Daniels better than Mitchell trubisky remember that Berg with whatever quarterback they're gonNa have Baltimore at home it's nine ten when teased operator Devlin Hodges the human duck he looked actually kind of good yesterday show up in England that's either here nor there I think Jacoby per second make every throw I think Jacoby percent can check in the things that he wants to do and I think the entire you heard the head slammed and one of those things where like my eyes open and like every kid in the class was like touching the bump that was forming Oh my head that fucking them saying that that really give this audience as much content as you do the twitter I just I think the I'm going to I'm going to read it for sure but I just wanted to make sure I get it the Senate that shit his pants on the national stage international trade but MS is disgusting look at the way they treated Andrew they got no shot they lost them that wholesale yeah come on now I mean these pickup Philadelphia I've heard that Shit Maha these people there in fast that's right the hard and the soft skills both of things like collaboration creativity Dell's an hour if I ever come back to it in my face mask off and I don't even know my name I think my first thought would be like me pushing that card off I could barely have been knocked out and woken up to humans now I've never been knocked unconscious I've I think I've gotten a couple of concussions though after watching the movie concussion and Dr Will Smith Adaptability Lincoln looks beyond the work skills and connects you with candidates who match your business perfectly that's Lincoln can make sure your job post gets in front of people 'cause they were like I'm kind of happy for you there's no sound it was such bullshit generation player they find out who's retiring via a Adam schefter white person takes time time that you often don't have but you shouldn't let a time crunch get in the way of finding the right candidates for your business that's why linked in is the best blink yes he got better Mason Rudolph while I think all the Pittsburgh did not grant it the Mason Rudolph optics cards broken I mean come on Toda truth you know what I mean want to hire people with the skills qualifications and other insights that help linked in paint a better picture of potential candidates doing what a lot of alliteration that last sentence and report that is a real thought if I'm ever position in the XFL or the CFO where I decided to play quarterback sling around and I get Sandwich and Earl Thomas hits me right on the two three four you get double that somebody just got hired yet again from our friends at Lincoln find the right person meant for the hat on oh I want him to do the slow hands out of my wearing right now happy he's Ok yeah he's okay but that was even a joke that was an observer I've heard soccer is potentially tough failures because of Henderson's Shit I used to just I just throw my head around like used to just be like New Hampshire on them if I was going to hire right now I'd hire Adam left go because what he's about this as magical we couldn't nick we interrupt this incredible conversation with the man who reports from the bleachers Mr Lesko to let you know that hiring as to post your job Lincoln jobs screens candidates with the hard and soft skills you're looking for so you can hire the right person Gotcha it'll go down to call it and put it in the stomach that's right nice I mean people have said that I was the fastest seven beer zero this guy doesn't even know his name but he has no idea where he is ray guy exactly they said he didn't know what day it was in this dude he had to come back and just be like Martin which I don't think it was a dirty hit by the way a lot of people on ear no dirty dirt it was just like the Josh Allen hit I think he was a victim of circumstance where it Kinda got quick quick bang which happens in the NFL how were you hoping he got hurt like no man we'll hope he's okay 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Yeah I didn't want to be a preseason games I play also also what's a sound you can make if you're upset you don't be an asshole there isn't one doesn't exist we laughing your bong that they've ever seen in their entire life and I would say that's probably an accurate thing but those days are long gone now left still think your dad playing jingles more impressive put die wipeout waterslide wipeout was also something absolutely loved it got rid of it I assume we need to Monday night football together I just WANNA do most extreme channel business today with linked in jobs you can pay what you want in the first fifty dollars is on them just visit Lincoln Dot com slash McAfee again that's linked in dot com slash percent anchor because I don't think I was in the wrong I had three people tell me that they were once fans mind they're no longer fans mind because this week and I would argue these people are saying they're not fans you're never fucking fan put up and the kids suck fucking stunk can you tell me the purple Barracuda's e show up and then nickelodeon made a like a fictional movie based on the game show popularity's being paid from their friends at bleacher report but Gad Dan the guy's good just like linked in let's get back to this conversation my issues his helmet in him just kind of like being dragged optically it was a weekend at Bernie's such let's all say we're happy he's OK in Japan I've had signed the rights guys got off a plane and he was sworn off with like notepads and I think it seems like it airs every single night in Japan accountant he has not worked out in three years he's going to try and climb this fucking wall come on I'm here for the Aggro Crag same kids that compete told me to tell the truth I think I've gotten a couple I have one in elementary school fifth grade football you remember oh I caught it turned and ages and just she's dead no it's just not America I mean they call it like they have Ninja Warrior and they had wipeout but come on I want an authentic couldn't read it because he went like it was effortless and it flew over my fucking crazy those are fun days so we'd bring in rookie returners you know like felt or set a feud with and I didn't realize there's no I love John he was like he just doesn't kick off I just play another position he's a friend of the show we did a thing we're hecker was teaching me terron killer channel on Youtube someone else bring it back to this beautiful audience you've built here I'm GonNa see some assists the shit out of those point it's big in Japan Tim McNally's master we drafted him and everybody's always going to be drafted as returner the kid didn't return in college so it's just really fast at my very fast and then they cut cribs the next day edits yeah exactly guts though do you have it adult guts let's go to mow on here with James James I that's what American Ninja Warrior should be no you know what else is a good one it's a game it's the challenge game but there's like a big red ball they bounce off at the if I can't do that at sixty five to people don't realize how far that is sixty four can you pop what's your furthest airport forever like right now Kabir has the truth don't truth most extreme challenges the best one out there that's Soka also let's bring back legends of the Hidden Temple now he tried to probably the most impressive feat in that clip going viral on Youtube I know it's like social like we haven't pulled up we have we gone viral on someone else's I said let's still put them out in one of the sixteen opportunities that we have to win in the NFL yeah because we drafted him in the first round and we have to make use of Grigson is amazing national championship or World Championship has been a nice little resume thorough football have you done it forever that's not real so like I had on my show he did seventy one and a half Bam go bang bang so I think it's Dominic Beers you slammed against your apart so move you were just chugging g man was like less than we have to prove whether or not this guy can catch a ball and if he can't we should prove this early so that we don't get stuck with this fucking guy return and kicks us if your guy can't catch a punt the best the best ever filter set in practice I'd see him on our practice squad going against our defense he be Mawson folks he be like me I'll be looking at like windows fuck facemask you will be the first thing I would add just attack the state as is why am I walking on are they eighty percent of the next fifteen years for this twenty-five he's a young quarterback holy crap he's got the spirit of Morgan Freeman yeah that's why because he's such a chill guy he's a leader enough they tried to protect them a Laremy Tunsil to Shawn Watson is a special individual if they can protect them and do it I'm not sure they can nothing has said that they can view the only thing corron Butler how to catch punts it's the weirdest trio of people ever and he was like apparently went to the cameras like I'm GonNa fuck with left and he butchered seventy five and and they play well I mean does Shawn Watson if they can figure out how to keep the Shawn Watson on his feet which I'm worried he might get an Andrew Luck Syndrome where he just gets addict so much just get him on Sunday they're like oh we'll see if we can get a game plan I'm like okay and then he goes New England and they're doing everything that they should still take Jacoby over door set in that trade is that what the trade was the question that is not even a coastal question I mean what are you doing congressman shoe producer isn't even going to flank Gardner Meshu is even GonNa play next year whenever taking incredible play's go rouch dimes making go you'll never get him the ball in the game I was always just like this guy dominates Wednesday Thursday Friday love the block they love the block Dash Watch most extreme challenges when you were growing up were they would be like I like tortillas that is a real problem to your specialty so literally the first day I just saw hitting got fucking mortars just bucket his highest possible and then they turn over and they come straight down the triangle of the NFL we have no idea what the Fox going on we have no idea who's going to win that division I know you say the colts but they could lose two three games real quick now well the Tax Alsace to is the thing that frustrates nfl reactions is we never look at the Macha how many teams have beaten the shit of the Falcons this year they're bad and then every week we house door set for Jacoby in a heartbeat in a heartbeat in a heartbeat so he's been good but Jacoby salt like he's the next three years this franchise for threes franchise fifteen I don't longboat every single time went right through his fucking hands Everson what's filters SEC did not want to catch punts anymore then they put them out in a game I game dropping to it'll he he fell this miserably go Tennessee hung up thirty on the Falcons Mario turns it around whose guys back to Shawn Watson puts up fifty three he's incredible and it's like Dan Quinn like in general right now I mean if I really just wanted to blow my neon brion seventy yards hecker so I have an episode coming up where I did with Hecker who apparently he's a savage easier fodder for says you are he's thrilled you're not in the city yeah like I I would I would Garner Menchu percent that is feeder you name it you utilize seek to buy your tickets and let me tell you why seeks scans all the other ticket buying platforms and make sure you're getting the best value for your tickets this is love for football which dinner loves told me this morning that that doesn't matter to Sean just wants the ball out I'm like how many times can you just get killed in finally say enough like the worst defensive coach in the Nfl Rain How's that happen by the way how does it just become so bad. I furious that he was part of that Seattle Coaching Tree Yup Gus Bradley did like thirty years ago we just brought them back now do you know very recently I yelled at my father for not signing me up forgets because I'm passing kicked national champ if I would have the global guts Richard Percent Aaron Rogers what are you even talking about this easy moesha about these two Jacoby per se I'm sure Garner Michelle has a better must AFC south is the Berman you too like literally the greatest retarded donate them this guy's going to be a return and he's fast and he's wide receiver he's going to be a good returner we've seen other people do it he's going to be good so tell me now with the chargers it went all over the NFL because everybody was emulating the seahawks this is just like the Sean mcvay theory for an office and so and so all of these other guys are the lesser form and they don't know why that defense work they just know we have to run this defense and now and now Dan Quinn when is the Falcons defense being good under Dan Quinn four game winners no big deal turn that switch on that I've I've heard you talk about before that last one that he goes psychopath and nothing can talk to them did you see they caught him but Jacoby has really sparked like a refresh nece colts nation and fans. I really like this team a lot you know what else I saw last night I saw your boy Viteri for we're drew brees went seven and nine and nobody wants to talk about it because he's a top five quarterback of all time that's literally how he masked I would say a quarter of his yards like down by cardiac situation Dak Prescott happens with yesterday do you miss him me or you're so hopped up on Jacoby that it doesn't even matter I liked watching Angela play football I enjoyed watching to wit Di was always on his shit but I'm just saying if something was wrong Peyton was going to let people know there's an accountability operation with Andrew he was too nice of a guy he never had that avenue slope I guess I'm over the hill so that doctor that he's talking to once told us that he could run a four four forty so that doctor is one of the most electric flying humans in the building him like you know what he was able to do a special specimen but I never thought he had enough to be the guy everybody was mean enough to be the guy I'd never thought he had enough never really let people know like hey you're sucking and that's fucking all of us over like he wouldn't do that because I think he was too nice of a Guy Jacoby though is not scared to hold people accountable okay do with Andrew last year like Andrew had an incredible year last year there one in five or one in six foot that whole thing around for one five I think so on himself he'll take some blame as well like you did last night when he threw that pick any badger he was a that's on one hundred percent So that type of leadership I like also with what Frank Reich was able to sooner that's all I'm like Oh this guy like he has something right because I'm coming from the Peyton manning tree or Peyton rain everything in the building if the food wasn't good fucking chef was going to get an now granted like you super competitive that's why we're always in games because how competitive he was but I don't think you had to killer instinct you know what I mean Jacoby has it that's why like Jacoby he was on a team for a week and a half they get on one play well and also Matt Ryan got a little bit of a noodle arm one correct me if I'm wrong I mean I didn't watch the game yesterday but with Matt Ryan you just see swayed last time he started when the foreign twelve play right away and he was yelling though the offense lineman like week three didn't even know his fucking name yet in that was something Andrew Luck would never do right so I was like the three hundred seventy eight yards and four touchdowns but like at no point in that game were they ever in a positive or when they got their fucking ass kicked all year round wish french-italian any Erman nine German nine German gross beer bitter one big beer please anyone to touchdown drive Arba Jars are the best they're the absolute Blake Bortles Special Andrew Luck through five hundred yards Andrew Lock Dak Prescott Andrew Luck you get a lot of these buddy that is 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A. B. B. E. L. Dot com and enter think about now he's just the greatest of all time yeah this is the way it goes guys best of all time so I think everybody was so disappointed this year because we got a guy we got a team we've got a coach understands this and Andrews like well I'm hurt again I don't want to throw shits I see later but now he's using it I wanted to do the on the field every suck it's everybody which would have been incredible if he would have done that the Internet would have loved it Hall my God could you Imagine Chris Collins Worthy now Michael uh-huh Code Pat Babble speaking new language with confidence who is the greatest of all time. Yeah Andy Lee was also incredible still is really good I would argue this the best pure punter just straight punting footballs hi how's it going a snap punting the ball Thomas Morstead of the New Orleans say he's been unbelievable he's a jugs machine he's a jugs machine he's the most boring dude of all time when it comes to putting his legs if you genuinely believe that strictly punter I'm not ball kicker though there's a lot of mother fuckers that can touch me and I think everybody knows that Shane was incredible deleted wreck sats well not the highlights left go that's all we did it so I I mean yeah he threw for it's every week I feel more and more sure of it and I think everyone's like Oh they're not scoring points it's not the saints teams that I've known for a long time vis defense and that guy the little white doctor that said Viteri in the past training of Ontario he was like I can run a four four or five to right so that guy has a great personality that that Doctor Right there the language of your choice once you try for free and ready to sign up slack to three month option and babble will give you three additional months for free with Promo Code unbeknownst to the game there and Chris that seems like he was pointing at his Groin region than house like that must have been some McAfee rub I love Terry though online in your progress will be sent across all devices be bowed and learn a new language because you listen to the show Babbel has a very special offer for you go to babble dot com and would come back and win win we win going to prevent defense and we just start picking him apart and everybody's like on our side on that all right here we go again we're going to be in this thing it's the line I mean there are three and now without breeze right now and the three teams they've beaten have beaten Tampa Bay after they romped the rams the Dallas cowboys and in Seattle that's without breeze yeah you're a hundred percent right though on healthy now you'd wear his skin if you could I say no no no no you're Eliza talion ao hey he is Italian chance I mean Aaron Rodgers and that packers offense have been so negligent in second half this year hey hey you bet in first-half over second half his big as the biggest ball it's but he's never gonna be as low as other people's it's just the same barber I firmly believe that the saints will be the team in the Super Bowl for the NFC I think arm gets tired late in the year very guess what he's resting he's having six weeks of not throwing that's six weeks that we can add onto the end of the year and I go what well oil by about week eight nine yeah I think so and I think that's going to be dangerous but drew brees is already thrown back again with bad thumb teddy bridgewater saw that and said I'm not GonNa Start for that Geico find the same consistency is Thomas Morstead does Thomas Morstead is a jugs machine it is as soon as he catches the bulger's same thing every single time it's just the same ball every single time it's not gonNA be Thomas Morstead is every time I watch go Mandela's start off at their own five again that's what Thomas Amos Winstons his own eleven again and then Cam Jordan come his hips are at my chest he's got these long asked levers he's like a Super Smart Guy Center nice guy his ability to Ben JK Scott's GonNa be the next one almost freaking out there towards the end Aaron Rodgers grabbed him on his shoulder like an older brother put his arm round basically told them hey sorry thornton hey I've been here before not a big deal going to be very good teams that team is loaded and longtime for success and it's not the compared to here rodgers and the packers team no yes they are now nothing not the game he's not helping ease hurting in that goes across all of the board I'm not just talking about the hand slapped from the Green Bay packers on the head of the Dak Prescott Guy Terror Kyle packers can match up with Kamara gyro Alexander the one guy he definitely has a size disadvantage against his Michael Thomas it'll be a great game I just know that the hackers better keep fucking winning because if it's in the superdome that's what I'd say yeah it's the way the REF's call games in the super bowl of the REF's call Why was trying to get out of the way Burt Riverine refuses to overturn the pass interference because he's taking a stand that he doesn't like the way the rules are being changed who's he's in some real things down the line yeah imagine at the colts lose that game chiefs because of that pass interference that was a phantom call that by the way the NFL knew that these phantom calls happens mentioned this earlier where it's like the the Games are almost unwatchable because every player guy let's wait and see what flags coming in here mentioned them ruining Oh how it's supposed to be you don't make the rules you enforce them out Berta River on he's public enemy number one not only for this show but for the entire NFL that's GONNA cost some people I I think the entire Internet was like there's no way they uphold this call everybody was like prime time television millions of people watching potential Volkhov yeah I'm not talking about the pass interference that they refused overturn in the other game? I'm talking about that T. Y. Hilton pass interference on a rubber route where look like under I'm just saying that allow him in matlock floor are just now finding each of us I think they are just not finding each other in the relationship on the sideline tells me that when Matt Leflore arrive in his job is getting harder in my judgment calls or my judgment costs no roof you can change it shut up Alberto just make the damn him down and say listen you either get with the program or you get the hell out and that's what I'm waiting for him to do it's only a matter of time that that pass interference on T. Y. Hilton normally but definitely not he said I think that's an incompletion but after watching football all day today I have no idea he's ruined the towel he was like listen I don't think anybody hilarious lines I've ever I think it's one of the most layers lines I've ever commentators say yeah I don't think commentators that Funny Molly makes the worst call he's ever made in the whole season when we thought he couldn't suck anymore somehow he turns it into a complete suck fest on Sunday night football which you would think hey it's certain insert newest rant about Oh Berta river on from earlier today how the river on needs to be run out of Park Avenue needs to be run knows what the rules are except for Alberto River on he's the only guy he's like the judge jury and executioner this whole thing he decides what goes and doesn't go one is commissioning Adele upset to what people are saying is the most talented team in a long time this call is microscope on it this has been talked about since the saints game this has been talked about a lot times in sometimes wraps get it wrong hertel sometimes you guys make mistakes on live time so you know we're going to do we're going allow them to opportunity review if we're completely wrong so they revealed lot by a lot of people just aref refusing to do the right thing in these situations and everybody was like I actually thought to myself I had I had a tweet ready to go like time it's just it's it's affecting teams right now and there's no indication that it's going to get any better no it's only GonNa get worse and Chris Collins had one of the Albertson us now now that's still at no worry about no it's not a Burto I hate you Albert Oh I hate you hour veron it's getting to the point and rush but a large majority of your rests on the field stink were putting review in to help your stinky ass refs that you have on the field and you refuse to let them good for all the criticism good rallies he's come around on this whole thing he admits his mistakes getting better but incentives complete opposite yes ever seen in my life both sides both sides like cowboys got screwed on couple big calls soda the packers and it's just again to the point where you know what's going to happen in potentially like ruining games and causing people bad late hit at the end of the steelers Ravens Game Oh my God that sent him down with a mural for Justin Tucker to send it into over asked to call Alberto Riverine and say call the game how it's supposed to be called your refs on the field stink not all of them that's abroad he's a terrorist the NFL he's bringing down the NFL single-handedly whether he likes to admit it or not he's refusing to adapt to the rules I just don't like him many more weeks any take advantage of it he started bone to my issue at the saints when I pick them I picked them to go to the playoffs but not to to win anything before the year was that we saw drew brees aints rams week to where they call the fumble dead he's seventy he's like sixty seven years old let's have forty something year old guy the Mason Rudolph situation they couldn't handle the the coin toss the coin toss became an entire cost of truck it makes no sense to me yes there's no consistency NFL at some point we'll get sick of the NFL be Hayao you're embarrassing a game right now nobody knows the damn rules because you refuse to enforce them the way they're supposed to at some point Roger Goodell as Green Bay packers had a hell of situation what the replacement refs have a won't Arison in that coin toss going in overtime granted steelers deferred which nope you refuse to help them out by a return calls I say I'm sick of Alberta River yeah I mean it's a lot easier to swallow after a win but that packers cowboys game was the worst officiated game is that are in peak physical condition this is their only fucking job I don't care if you call games thirty forty years ago if anything I actually think that's bad because now you're ask seeing the impact on the lines being and you have a lot more at stake that's how I don't know how it happened that's why I believe that having referees that are I had ravens minus three and I'm watching an incomplete pass that you buy the half a no no I got it at three it was like when the West Gate came out I got an early GotTa gotTa Push Yeah but then I watch even against the Ravens there was a roughing the passer on Lamar Jackson were just brought down by his feet. There's no consists what time is no longer allowed there is too much it was already a billion dollar industry it's going to be ten times that amount with sports betting and I'm watching Ravens steelers the J. wildly aggressive move while especially when he thought the duck the human duct Evelyn hodges world champion duck caller one in there didn't blink an eye they just gonNa keep ruining these games or or what it's almost like the replacement refs are in right now this is Kinda the fields if the replacement refs are in from top to bottom I it feels like we're back in those from the rough so so there's no chance we such crooked shit they are bad the reps are it's like replacement year refs all of a sudden you have no idea what is a catch what is it the new rules that we are not in charge of making by the way Alberta River on you're not in charge of creating the rules your job is strictly to enforce them so get off your high horse out burke though I don't like the `Nigma some people would call me I had an incredible cadence as a bondholder numerous people jumped off sides because of my inflection it's like the referees who negotiated new CBA you'd think they'd be happy with the way this whole thing going they disagreed with the NFL you think they would all rally up like okay now we'll just didn't yeah very basic then we had code words just like the Peyton manning for what number we were going on because if you go on one every time the used to calls that do not exist anymore that's what Berta riverislands problem is he's refusing to adapt to the pass interference review because he thinks it's taking the judgment calls away from referees Asia it's Blue Blue for on a left ashes red red which means if there's a fire situation I'm rolling to the right or rolling to the left right L. and blue and red right and then I went what other games did he do this year he did that chiefs lions shit fast where there was like hey what what about this ninety nine yard fumble return that's a weird play he also did NC none of it makes sense they're too afraid to change the calls on the field to embarrass the referees and the referee that game was walled Anderson he was it was so bad right we had a four we had an on four yeah but you have to work that during practice because the offensive lineman can't jump there and whenever I had a cadence which I did have a good one if you get your own gun defense gets a hold of that and then he often align who have the worst job in football blocking feel are just getting teed off on by the thing right so I like the very the snap counts can exactly from my heart what's the biggest moment where you looked at him and said I'd like to Piss in his coffee we're in London international man of mystery Patna exactly I won't Anderson giving any moments with him won't Anderson I have a noted so I like struck a chord when you said that your dispute the TV people yeah well you know they they go meeting frame but if it was four th and five or short there's about one hundred percent chance that I'm going on either three two or four yeah fused to do the proper protocol cables proper protocol for K. Balls is our equipment manager in the other teams equipped manager get thirty minutes in a room that's being watched by I'm back up five yards bad news viteri is not happy with just backed up five yards so instead of stealing a first down I just fucked aggressive all time so there's a fine balance so anytime we are in an area exactly one hundred percent hundred percent right these are the things that I never get thanked for just typical never talks about mostly because only media people Internet Media Peo- we're not going on one we're going to get them if we get a little dummy on the edge it jumps offsides bang let's pick up first silence keep it moving in England we're kicking brand new football's because Walt Anderson rule has changed even more where the teams are allowed to bring their own balls to the game cable now so it's like all the way back full circle but when we were in England they'll protocol was broken official to break in both normally fourballs broken in out of the seven then knows four balls are numbered in those balls put into play broken in ball saves you like five to seven yards it helps you out five seven yards instead of hitting a brick knock on wood if you're with me that's what a brand new football is what Anderson refused to use any of the broken bone but you did get people more fantasy points with those five yards so you're welcome never got thanked never got thank but he's forty seven to fifty three is enormous okay into a game and Brett farve through pick so Brett Farr bitched about cable and then new cable rose came Blah Blah Blah the whole thing happened so now we're at this point where I think nowadays sh Burger in Brett farve the K. Ball road got introduced because Mitch Berger broken above so bad by putting it in like drier it became like a rugby ball and it got put in and I would love to hear it it's good through the gate I was able to yell do you go snap it now now so depending on what side we're on the front of the right hand from again Oh wow so you only have thirty mention your supervisor in our guy will go in there and break a sweat I mean it was a big deal for us and we would tip them out very large for the whole Brady Bang Bang Bang so the umpire whoever was behind goes I got ninety seven Blah Blah Blah in the neutral zone at that point I'm looking over at Chuck I'm like let's go to like we're about Oh these brand new balls are happening we were down Jacksonville who's a thirty three yard extra point or whatever so on the extra point I was like I'm go onto we never go into any extra point think I can get it conversely Gotcha because there's too yeah balls balls balls right and everybody's looking at me like extra point I'm like yeah yeah yeah boss boss so I go ride ride and I see I was in England just for his own fuck it accord for no other reason other than he's Walt Anderson so we're using all the brand new balls for the entire game I notice that on the first snap of a punt I caught the ball and I was catch what's pass interference with what they're going to call what they're not gonNA call and then there's zero explanation or zero accountability from anybody Alberto Riverine and I just said it in a clip beyond the one that's gopher to won't Anderson comes out of the referee meeting points at me and goes I'm calling it on one in looks right at the camera and goes false start number one the nose tackle like I see him start to fall forward and as he's like almost bored I got sick and we snap the next one he kicks zone flags and flag flies right I think the reps are bad they're getting worse I don't know how you get worse in a world that is supposedly getting better episodes and I think the people that realize the most of the people that are involved in sports betting because thing like it's a real part of the part of the game the boss yes K. balls very different than those balls quarterbacks get to bring their own Boston game that's k balls because of Mitch Queue even more and that's my biggest goodell though right goodell when is he said anything in the last six months he has disappeared hasn't he completely off the the game about my cadence so they would talk to like quarterbacks they talked to centers and snappers and then they would come talk to me like listen we saw you on film just make sure you continue not to move after every week and every week we go up but there's more games coming up we gotTA start talking about the next week a games this was the first off season where we really spent time talking about how he hears that they're getting together and they're going to save their money the players and they're coming for that fifty one percent it's so interesting to me because you know goodell debt me up for that draft thing and that's the first time kicking team five yard penalty will redo the try so not only do you still have to kick it feel good now it's long now's a thirty eight yard field goal brand new ball in all because won't Anderson like what the fuck is this almost one of our equipment managers what are we doing he was like won't won't use the ball buddy I don't know what to tell you can they work on the sideline or now they only thirty minutes guy we can go for two then balls on the one in vineyard doesn't have to kick this brand new ball in beanies ideal am I carried out there and I go boss right so that's onto cock balls the size of the saints because of that and I feel like now instead of the referees go and you know what all these years we need to change they've emboldened there stands to say yeah so wild Anderson and I have had a beef since that moment not only him ruining the kitchen boss for me when I'm suppose put on a show for these people who actually enjoy kicking by the way so they're here to see right before I went out there for the Jetta Harjo impossible job yes but he's paid very well for it which that's why nobody has any sympathy for me not only is what I like to call and ask Clark did he at the field goal asymmetry but the extra point would have been nice there because we off that's exactly why don't you come from the barrel of the gut they're entirely action we go on like four if there's a rookie end like if there's a rookie corner Mike I we're going to go on for this guy would cadel expects sympathy by the way though decorate it with firefighters or policemen or children whenever he goes in public because they know that he's going to get there yes this bomb balls we actually get clapped on and off the field over there in England and then also for screwing me in potentially vegetarian my biggest issue at the refs is that we have this discussion every year I'm ever really get to talk to them face to face waiting for someone to turn down the Goodell Hook on stage for the bro Hug and I won the now pause shake so the earth why why wants his fifty million dollar check and the CBI is coming up in about a year and he's trying to give the least amount of leverage out there right now because so I was on the move my hand forwarded all my head for your couldn't do anything I just had to do this and it had to be all inflection and I would literally like work on the practice your fucking louder this is a business arrangement a Nacho brother and I know you're probably GonNa find me the next couple years of my life I will say this I was impressed with Goodell when I talked to a man to man best year is when Kyle Shanahan the fifth most meanwhile time they were up twenty five point zero super bowls yeah defense allowed thirty five but let's blame Kyle Shanahan for not run down we needed that's the that's the thing though is like that's why I hate wall strictly because an abuse of power while Matt Overton Matt Overton are long snapper was literally in the Ref Oh and he was like yeah it's ninety seven to Walter Anderson literally just pointy right back instead of calling it online I'm like this fucking guy 'cause I didn't move so like wrestle come talk to me dump at some point is yes sir and then as he's like following like wait for them way for them way for him sick and then he was like in the neutral perfectly had a first down never go out alone except for at the draft where they even try to bring local legends on stage and it they they try their best but just he he has a bad job because he's the mouthpiece thirty two different billionaires who want to make as much money as possible so he's in a bad spot but when it comes to this refs I don't know how he hasn't stepped up and said listen birthdays just because it's the number one sport in America everything is so expensive millions and billions of dollars and there's just fucking they gave quarterback Amano they Amman the give it some old he kisses that they're so bad oh yeah and any other twenty four teams are trying to have good margins and it's fucking bullshit I would argue that this year there are eight teams that are potentially going Super Bowl twenty they're just trying to kirk cousins at home those a different guy I said this on Fridays podcast with Matt Hasselbeck that was potentially going to be open minded to this entire thing I last week was saying that Kirk cousins stanks I was saying that kirk cousins was a stooge a sell hot I was saying that eighteen that's supposed to be trying to win the super bowl no they're not they're trying to sell parking spaces they're trying to sell season tickets dude there's eight teams trying to win the super bowl any given year like if you look at big time eagles fan you like eagles yeah big time leaving them yet they're about to have the kirk cousins in the Vikings resurging shift allison of Sam Darnold just completely turned around the entire team I don't know cases godawful he's so bad if it again but again again the jets will be a lot better in the second half of the season Nelson and then you can have the lasers just like in tennis on the entire field you've got to feed in bang videos a great increase the referee often twice giants Washington they're going to turn it around to AFC schedule just started off against the eagles the Patriots the browns Helius forty-five more kids where we're gonNA find these rafts that are worth this shit that's why I think Elon Musk needs to just create artificial intelligence where the referee thing if we really want to the holiday on go oh it's third and one actually it's I doubt and I'm like this is a billion dollar industry the dude no sense to do dancing with his foot he forgot which side of his put the ball is on aw dude they just have no idea but it's the national football league and the thing is that I've learned just from covering this league now for a while is you think 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Week 3 Recap With Chris Long | The Ryen Russillo Podcast

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Week 3 Recap With Chris Long | The Ryen Russillo Podcast

"NFL Week Three Chris Long Ryen Russillo on the Ryan Russillo podcast from the ringer. We have a million things over so let's do it. Maybe even a little storytime too as well China's always the podcast is brought to you by our great friends not good. We're getting to the great friendship zone now. A belvedere produced in one of the world's longest running distilleries Belvedere Vodka's the world's finest vodka part of six hundred year Polish vodka making tradition Belvedere is made with one or percents pulse garage pure water and no additives and and look. What can I tell you they down smooth? Even if the people that you're around aren't smooth I know they want me to tell us to. I don't know if I can tell that story right now. I I share it with Chris earlier. That seems like his put it this way when somebody says hey what do you have I go do would you like Belvedere and soda and they're like why don't you put instead of Soda. Water use more booze to put in there as a mixer and I'm like okay. My man is on one so remember it always drink responsibly no calories though no calories in that none none whatsoever. Where do you WANNA start my man? You want to start three and teams. I feel the biggest colts fan. Now I love. I love the colts Bro Love you do love Frank Love Jacoby T. Y. Hilton UH. How do you not love that Guy Mac Quinton Nelson Yeah? I'd love to talk. We'll we'll get to them but yeah three knows fine we could start. Let's suit thing where we overreact or Pick Super Bowl winners based on history. No okay bills cowboys. That's my pick okay lead though my man Spam Newton that's what I'm calling Josh Allen now what's his nickname spam newton why he's like an offshoot of Cam Newton but he looks a little different okay so the bills defense that's right now. I don't know if this were we want to start and we start bills. I mean bills. Fans are are excited. They got new England coming in their three. You know if they were college football team that had a good ranking we'd say well your non conference was terrible you play the jets the giants and Cincinnati but this is the number to a defense in the NFL last year and picked right up and we can get into the stats that they're not as good as other defenses but their offense isn't really putting emigrate situation so their defense is actually in an art like you could argue. They're the best considering the situations they're put in but I'M NOT GONNA do thirty minutes on the bills. Nah nobody wants her third. Nobody wants air thirty minutes. I don't even think people in in Buffalo in a here thirty minutes on the bills but the hype is is I don't know if it's warranted but it's real they are going to be throwing the elderly people through tables in that parking lot. They're going to be throwing children through tables. They're going to be set and stuff on fire. This is the best thing for viral tailgating videos since ever so as long as Josh Allen can keep it going I don't know if they're relevant in the super bowl conversation but they're gonNA be a tough out in most weeks they play defense you mentioned last year they really good at keeping plays in front of them. Defensively not spectacular no like ace rusher although I really like Jerry Hughes and they spread their production out across the board there so interesting team came from a tailgating perspective for sure okay so then on the other side Dallas are you. Are you stronger on what you think about Dallas because if if we're applying the buffalo and all this stuff is the same for anybody that goes through you know you guys talk them all up. Hey Look at San Francisco and you go. We'll wait a minute. How do how do you not know the answer to the question rush of how those two things are different based on what preconceived notions we have about those teams but if we're still skeptical about buffalo because of the schedule then what do you do with Dallas despite those numbers knowing knowing they played the giants the Redskins and the dolphins why think Dallas and the paths are real and obviously the chiefs you know you look at the other undefeated the two teams there may be different echelons below but I would say you're most certain about the pats the chiefs and the cowboys as the packers our team was such an upside man? You just like like we've talked about the last time they had a defense like this atop ten defense and I love everything they've done in the off season. you know getting the backs that they did the defensive backs that they didn't drop in that Davenport Trade essentially with New Orleans that was big the Smith Brothers two point zero shutout Alden Smith and Justin Smith and now they've got to edge rushers who can apply pressure consistently I love what they've done. The off season Leflore seems to be a nice upgrade honestly as as far as working with Aaron Rodgers for now they needed a better job adjusting in the second half I think they've started fast and Kinda tapered off but I think they're for real and and then obviously you've got the rams and the niners in the NFC west and we can get to that. What do you think about the packers? The defense is definitely for Real I. I don't think there's there's there's really any doubt to that. I was most impressed with the Vikings game than it was Denver. Although I had maybe a little bit more respect for Denver losing the the way they did and then they have to go out to Green Bay and they're they're competing but the vikings game was the one where it felt like Roger started looking like the Aaron Rodgers who you sit there and go Kay their fourteen of like I have this other theory to that when you're up fourteen nothing and this is different as green bay shouldn't be dismissive of Minnesota but I feel like I see this with the good team that we all expect back to win when they go up fourteen nothing. This game is so hard that being fourteen nothing quickly can actually screw your team up because I work all you've. You've got to run into another dude. That's why I never get mad at people celebrating sacks because okay how about you run into a three hundred pound human sixty times and then get to the goal once like chess you should be allowed to celebrate began other time going to act like an asshole right right so when I think about the way Green Bay's come out in the Minnesota game and it just it all has to look like Rogers although there was one play in that game apparently like we're the floor was trying to get Raj do something Roger Still was like whatever I'm doing my own one thing and there was like a sideline screen grabbed video of it where leflore looked like what are you doing but that's just probably ending. Where's the panic mater the panic readers? We never relationship relationship. It's low now. It's like a one right now at a ten or one hundred at ten so rogers needs one touchdown down past to pass Fran Tarkenton for the ninth most. NFL history so just an interesting stat there and then additionally in that game was the broncos. Don't have a sack or a takeaway so far this year. I'm sorry I feel like that targeted. Thing is something you came across. You like this in today pretty much okay. I thought it was interesting. I'm sorry are you. Are you like hey dude. Don't knock my prep let me let me use my prepped away. I need to use it well. I had it written down. You know I'm just like fuck it. I got a fire that went off in we could get to the NFC west which I think you know you got to three zero teams and they're way different in writing the perception. Everybody expects the rams to be contenders this year. I think Cooper cops given them a big boost offensively. I I mean they're a team that can find different ways to be people goff nor girly were spectacular last night on the road and they they find ways to win. Their pass rushes better this year their defense is playing pretty solid but the niners are really interesting to me right. I mean the most misleading game yesterday was the San Francisco Pittsburgh game which was hideous but ends up one score Gaiman the niners kick their ass twenty six first downs to eleven al-Gain four four thirty six to two thirty nine time possession thirty six minutes to twenty three so the niners are three and now and their next seven games they play two teams with winning records. I I mean they they they go on a little run here and they don't even have to be good it could get interesting not in that division but from a standpoint of vying for wildcard spot. I'm not sure there at the the level of beating the rams with regularity but with Seattle kind of looking pedestrian who knows so. Let's let's stay on the rams because they were the prime time game last night. Yes there are three no team but if you've watched the entire time time you know whether it's breeze getting hurt and week two and that saints game where you know I'm not saying they weren't GonNa win it or anything like that but the the rams part of this is because they were in the Super Bowl I think we wanna see them dominant at times where we WANNA see goff offensively pensively get back to what at one point was like an MVP discussion thing here with Gov and maybe we've raised our expectation to for him for McVeigh for the team General Yester- Three now l. but it hasn't looked as impressive is that fair it has not but I will say that when you talk to people out there that Cooper Cup up thing cannot be underestimated when it seemed like nobody else can get open and the offense is sputtering. He's a really nice security blanket and they had they had bad games last year or two. That's the ebb and flow of it. I mean when when you look at Jared Goff is not necessarily an an elite quarterback. He somebody that in the right system because that's kind of discussion around him. Can you lot of games and I. I don't worry about them. I honestly honestly don't you know I worry about todd and managing things was him from a rep standpoint but they've done that pretty well so far they should. They haven't had to lean heavily on on him. It Donald was was a lot of fun to watch again last night. Can I do something here. Where it's maybe irresponsible question of the week? I love it. So what we'll do is just it's something I don't think necessarily but if I wanted to go like in front of everybody else on TV v show for producing it and and do something and be like Hey I'm gonna I'm GonNa do a little far and away Tom Cruise and plant my flag in this one before anybody gets here and that's not a subliminal because I could apply to so many TV personalities right now right and far and away. Did you ever see far away now. Is that Tom Cruise cruise movie. You would like that that reference a lot more had really watch Tom Cruise movies. I'm probably GonNa Watch topgun though because our boy let's namedrop him. Miles teller is going to be in that movie. Oh I thought you were going to say Garner. Menchu was going to be in the top gun but Nah he's. He's probably GonNa have mono by then. I have to sit that one out crazy the guy you'd most expect to have mono doesn't have it and the guy that the quarterback young quarterback at least least expect to have it is sidelined with an enlarged spleen right now from drinking survivor on your bio. Yeah Yeah No I. I am on survivor. That's why yeah it might be worth Marnie. Think about how much mono is probably Jacksonville. I haven't thought about that so lot. You see high. School has a higher concentration of mono than other. NFL Cities Guaranteed in that pool loan loan. There's a bunch of mono yeah. I see when I see that pool at Jacksonville I see a bunch of divorces. That would cost me a beach house. I see a terrible engineering misstep in that is that they left the side like like a glass side so you could see the consistency of the water right because you can see that pool from like the side right. Yeah I think you can you write yet. It's always always it. Always looks like it could be a little clearer. Is that what you're getting at. It could always be a little clear. It's a little bit film me. I don't know if they went like They didn't do the chlorine thing they want like salt water which would be ill advise you gotta you gotTa just Zap that thing with chlorine over under on over under under on turns in that pool in one season. I'm setting it a four really wow you went there I don't know I mean that's that's a pretty aggressive move. Man is it yeah okay is butter is a little bit and it's a little hot. What do you do when you get out of that pause their locker room now? I'M GONNA guess they've they've had seasons where there's been zero. I think you're being way too loose with the the the person that's like yeah. I'm cool this so you're taking the under all right prop bet it get Stanford Steve on here. I will bet okay so now that we've talked about. Hey you're not going to get you're not going to get mono but your hair is gonNa turn Green Lean and our pool with new chlorine blasting of it. Here's the irresponsible question of the week. Is there any chance Baker isn't good the YOU WANNA go. I YOU WANNA go first because even thinking about it. My my first instinct would be no. That's a ridiculous question to ask this soon in to the guy's career and I think there's a very big difference where when I watch him when he gets the ball out quickly. It's incredible like when he's when he knows he's on time and all that stuff gets. It's really impressive so that's why the browns wandered one. That's why other teams I know for fact you know. Other teams were interested in him so even though it seemed like wait a minute Baker Mayfield is going to go ahead and all these other guys other teams actually did like him so this was some rogue doug thing by Dorsey the brown so I think it's irresponsible to ask right now but there's they haven't look good. You know they haven't looked good. I don't know if that's Baker a combination of all the stuff they're doing. I'll just leave it with this before you take it over but like Warren sharp who had the routes that he was showing that I commented on the night when they were way back when I was at third and seven they sent two guys out to the right side on Kgo routes where they're basically right next to each other than the other route on the left side is is a deep post and you're like what are are you guys doing like you're all backed up and you have to get all these guys down the field and that means Baker is going to be back there the whole time and it seems like he's two completely different quarterbacks when it's on time versus him despite his mobility freelancing hold onto the football longer you think it you think got a case of coordinator face by a down by Lake Erie their kitchens and yet he's he's then of course you know widely came out today. The former offensive line coach and there was a piece in Cleveland this morning being like kitchens didn't do any of this stuff was am type in Alaska whereas while easy on the couch yes people care people people get they got those reporters porters on speed dial when I mean sometimes you got to blow the whistle but I I guess for me. It's an interesting conversation because they've they've seemingly done the easy stuff to surround him with the right pieces. you know they're receiving core the tight end they. I have their splash moves you know and the way he came on late last year. Set kind of unrealistic expectations for what this team name could do this year and we all fell victim to that the expectations one way or another. I don't know about all of us but the Baker wins you look at him so far the jets twice Baltimore flacco Atlanta's since he twice twice Carolina and Denver and that's from Carrington Harrison somebody I follow on twitter it's it's there there. There aren't a ton ton of great wins but I think Bakers Hell. I think he's a hell of a thrower and what you don't do as you get rid of your best offensive Lineman bakers not the tallest all this guy eurolines struggling. He's better when he's on schedule. there's plenty of figures that support that his his average snapped to throw his three point Oh six seconds which is towards the bottom of the league. It's up from two point nine last year. There's a ton of metrics assay if he gets the the ball out quickly France since seventy four percent completion rate when he throws within two point five and drops to fifty five after two point five so I think being on schedules big for them you WanNa compare them maybe to like a Chicago if you're lazy because with the RPO's and the timing Ming throws you'd say they're similar but the big difference is there. The situations are flipped quarterbacks much better in Cleveland in Baker over trubisky and the offensive line is much better in Chicago over Cleveland's so it's like if you're grading him. It's incomplete because he's always bailing out of the back of the pocket because there's pressure up the middle all the time and they haven't invested in the align the way they have and some of the splash move so. I don't think he's I think he's a good quarterback and I think if they actually get that situation under control upfront. You'll see him be able to settle a lot more and throw with timing yet. I'm on that side of the argument. That's what we were calling it the irresponsible question of the week yeah yeah yeah no doubt so so there you go. I want which direction you WanNa go now while they're I mean like we could start with my my favorite Britt new team not ending an EA G. L. es it's good while the colts take it away yeah. I said it's a you know. Can we call that the Dougie P. Coaching Tree Frank Right. I T's he's my he's my pick for early. Pick for coach of the year everything with Andrew Lock in and look at the way Jacoby look consider this if they found another franchise quarterback or the colts fans who booed Andrew Luck some of them the luckiest in football. I mean they've had three franchise quarterbacks. If this guy hits it's ABC no lag time in manning luck and now maybe percent who started off I think hitting his first not sixteen receivers yesterday and including nine for nine and ninety six and a touchdown on his first nine yet zine MAC is special out of the backfield and they were up twenty three at the half on the other side of it. We talk about the Falcons but man. You've got to be impress press windy. They look real to me. I mean they're a team. That's always going to be in it. They kept they kept Jacoby clean all day. And when are we gonNA start talking about Clinton. Nelson is being one of the best football players in the league. I mean I I guess some people might be already but you know you almost talk about that. Conversation you the quarterbacks and non quarterbacks and I've talked a lot about Aaron Donald. Are we talking about Quinton enough as possibly being relative to the drop off to the number two guard in the League the best player in the League. Did you ever have to go up against him. Yeah I had to play them last year. and yet you you feel it when he liked polls I mean he's just he's got. He's got a he's got like a Steve Hutchinson Dome. I remember playing Steve Hutchinson and I'm just thinking Holy Shit. This guy's head is fucking huge. I don't know if they like measure measure that at the combine but that helmet it's massive event and it's just a guy who can come to balance and play with such strength impositions were other guys will be out of control and his hands are heavy he any any plays with the right amount of of of Nasty Melvin Ingram on that spin that kind of went viral. He's a guy that like you know last night you tweet about eighty. I'd love to just have an eye so cam on on Q. as well. That would be awesome if we started doing head measurements at the combine be like I don't know he's seventy and what's his new air but is at seven five as a new era. Didn't you cheat it to combine. I did as good recall. Did you ever share this. I've talked about it. so basically I mean I had a good vert I mean I jumped thirty four not bad for being a bit tastier but I put some some Kleenex in in my glove like a little bit in the tip you know try to put that on after I measured because they make you stand up and reaches high as you can obviously that's your baseline and then I went off in the corner. Put some Kleenex from my glove and I want you to law fingertip gloves. Yes Aso's reachhigher and they caught me. gamesmanship right never heard anybody sound like I have to jump that hired that much playing in the NFL so yeah what else did you did. You cheat on anything else or no. I never cheated. I never cheated myself. I Self Ryan. Would you do on the bench press the bench press. Oh Yeah I did so when it came to bench. you got a good memory when it comes to bench I've never been a big bencher and I kinda hurt my thumb in a bowl game but I use it as an excuse. Why couldn't bench no of course everybody goes? Do it like a tight today. It's usually at yeah. It was like man. My thumb is I you know I might bench eight ten times at two twenty five I I don't know but it would have been a big red flag I would have you know probably plummeted to the middle of the first belonged but but still I mean Shit. I never I never bench press. Anybody wants on the field. You know I think that Shit's overrated but on the other side. What do you think of Atlanta 'cause we're? I mean we're we've. We've kind of let indie dominate this this whole discussion so okay I always had like I always like Atlanta. 'cause I like Matt Ryan. you know all these teams that we're talking about here. Sifting through these seven three Oh teams half of them are going to have devastating levels of of injuries. That's why in a way I love the the masculinity of football if that's still okay to say today I hope so does I mean is an Alpha male sport whatever you want to slice that right but yeah I don't WanNa be toxic about it. Thank you it just the fact that who you are weak. One is not who so you're gonna be week seventeen and you've got to figure it out okay and whether it's a quarterback injury which we can get to some of the quarterback turnover because I did some of these numbers or just just you know certain guys. You're losing it Atlanta Law so many guys whether it was the offensive line in the middle of their defense where you go. This is actually a real. Excuse you know because I don't like when people people say like Oh. Injuries aren't as she as well actually sometimes it's overwhelming. It's an excuse but then I watch Atlanta again and I still kind of fall for it a little bit with them. In then they're getting back into that game and I'm like here we go and then Neil goes out where I've had this love affair with gators safety's going all the way back to Reggie Nelson who was awesome in college was probably not what you thought he'd be but still was okay and then Elam who had thought was going to be awesome wasn't a now Neil who's been a stud. I can't get enough of those Florida safeties and now he's her and I'd imagine it's probably GonNa be disappointed disappointing year in Atlanta again even though I yeah the flag on him for donuts helmet yeah after realized Gylys yeah. It's fucking absurd dude. I mean I hope he gets well. I mean it's just that's been a lot of bad breaks for him and with Atlanta I mean you got to do more rushing. The passer half a sack yesterday. She Kobe was clean. They've only got four on the year as a team. Most of them came in that Eagles game and listen. The Falcons are the most penalized team in the league. I think they had sixteen for one twenty eight yesterday. I think they had thirty eighty five to sixty four to three weeks. You can't win that way. They're dealing with new new coordinators on both sides of the ball so Quinn's got own this right. IOS nobody to say. I like quite a lot There's nobody to say well. It's on this guy or that guy. I mean you made the changes. that's a lot of stuff being influx the saving graces if Atlanta can decide to play with any consistency you know two of the three best quarterbacks in the division are out and you would think the division would be there for the taking but two of their first three games in Atlanta Lanna. They have been off schedule. They've been down early and that just doesn't that's not the formula for them. They got Freeman going yesterday but if you're down early that's that's that's not how they wanna play and listen. I mean they Julio made some circus. He made a circus catch. In the end zone went for eight for one hundred twenty eight a lot of fun to watch Matt made some nice throws you like Matt but that's not the formula to win and you know I hate to overshadow or disrespect. The Falcons skains here but they're they're one two and the colts colts look relatively real so okay so but we could also do this to where we're looking at this after week six going hey Atlanta ran into three playoff teams the first three weeks and no doubt about it but until they start playing better. I can't talk about them like you know they. They have everything going for them in that division and they can't seem to just play with consistency within a game over three three games again to coordinators. That's a big big deal in the penalties are bad teams that get penalty penalized a lot like that. I know that in Seattle L. A. and Quinn was there for part of the time I believe they were one of the most penalized teams in the league and they were real outlier as far as being able to withstand that that type of undisciplined play you can't quite do it. The roster is not the same down there so one of the more entertaining games to watch yesterday another was was rivers doing it out with Watson and I know you really. He liked that that rivers me yesterday. That big cat tweeted all it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable that you would sit there and say it's like wrestling writers. Do the chargers script every year her and they go. Hey so here's the deal. It's you know you're GONNA be up around six minutes. The fourth quarter GONNA be down again. You're going to have these two possessions and like like the offensive line you know is going to be tired. UAB running around like getting chased by a rattlesnake in the sun and US going to start throwing it and and sometimes it's GonNa work and sometimes it isn't and you but you have to do it every Sunday for like the last five years of career and for whatever reason your games always going to be the last one on also so still gonNa be light up out all the time which is is totally disorienting to me. It's you get the I got the Sunday scary I got this. I call them the GREMLINS everybody gets on Sundays in one way or another but like they're just starting to set in and then you just watch the chargers kind of implode a little bit and it just makes you more anxious yeah. It's not the settlement you kind of. You're so you're hoping for like. Can I just get a twenty eight ten here. Starting the fourth quarter game's over maybe go outside a little bit run run to the corner store and grabs him supplies and it's like no no no we need you in an angst filled seat matching the angst of Philip rivers last few years and it's always the game it's on at the can't believe how consistently it happens because it does well. I'm GonNa tell you what yesterday here's here's the problem in the interesting conversation and this is not like I want to get to Houston because Sean was fucking awesome but when it comes to La good job not saying San Diego Pat Myself on the back there well they had five cares for twelve yards in third quarter up seventeen seven at the half the conversation about Melvin Gordon starts to rear its ugly head again. I mean the first two weeks we talked about well. It looks the production elsewhere right so the trade value the perceived trade value goes down but that doesn't mean the his value to the chargers goes down and as you looked at yesterday they have a lead. You need to be able to control the clock. You could sure use them They're going to be more games like this down the road this this year I don't know where they're at with that situation but they certainly look like they could use them yesterday. and rivers had them right there in a position to win at the end converted on third and very long and then a bad drop by Benjamin at the goal line that would have tied the game up and again misfortune for him but but the Sean was great he really was yeah. He's kind of in that. I don't WANNA put him. I don't put them in the mahomes category because mahomes feels feels like and we'll get to this you know Baltimore Casey thing here in a second but it is very close in that there's just plays being made by him with. I don't know if the basketball player analogy works but it just as hard as you dude. He looks like he's throwing a baseball. I mean he's he's like It's like watching like gauzy. Gan play catch in that the if you like baseball it's it's like mystifying to watch. Do play catch or maybe somebody else and not a big baseball guy but you watch them. These middle infielders like turn double plays like just toss the ball around mahomes. It's that's how he looks out there. I mean he's got control of of a baseball on a football that's true but but I also think he does stuff especially because of that offensive line although he's got you know really Nice Group of receivers. He does stuff that feels like it's on his own and this is a very tough sport to do stuff consistently every week where you're doing it on his own and again and I'm not talking about like talent drop off. I'm talking about his creativity to make stuff work when it looks like a he obviously that's part of it. He's so used to have to running around now. That is good as anybody making stuff up out of nothing. I mean yeah. He does make everybody around him a little bit better. I mean that that group offensively at different times has not been has not been special and he can go on runs I mean last year. He went on a really scary run when we had a big lead over them and we almost blew it at the link ink and he was just shaking people off. I missed the SAG. Mike Bennett Mrs sack. I think three people missed the sack in one play and he and he you know does a fifty are bomb. He did that yesterday. Shook off Ingram to throw a touchdown. He's it looks to me like Houston. At least in the short term is getting a lot out of those pieces. They got from Miami. I mean because the Sean looked really comfortable yesterday. Hundred thirty five rating he hit tight ends for one hundred nineteen yards on eight catches and three touchdowns Kenny stills went for over eighty yards and Hopkins who might be the best receiver and League or one of them he didn't even have have to go off yesterday. I mean I think he had about six yards receiving Yeah Watson Watson Special he really is but I do want to throw this into the hat the guy. Nobody talks about his Keenan Allen. How the hell do we not talk about keenum Allen more? We're talking about every receiver on the field but not Keenan Allen. He's got twenty nine receptions on forty two targets for four zero four with eight going for over twenty yards. They're all they're all league bests. He's averaging one hundred dirty four yards a game especially by twenty yards. I mean how do we not it's because he plays in L. A. Which you think would be a big market but it's not a the chargers not at a big football market team and if he played anywhere else we'd be talking about him like you know maybe not Julio but we talking about him like like Oh. BJ and and and we talk about him like Hopkins we talk about him like all these receivers Mike Thomas. Why are we not talking about Keenan Allen you know Keenan Keenan never gets mentioned in that group and the first thing I thought was well? How many games has he missed really just Miss Games in two thousand sixteen where he only played in one but every other year fourteen games fourteen games sixteen sixteen you know he all right so I think maybe it was fifteen sixteen because he missed miss half the season fifteen he missed basically fifteen games in sixteen but when I look at the chargers receiving depth when everybody's Ryan Williams when everybody's healthy your like these guys are studs but Jalan allies probably deserves to be brought up more this is year three? They're in Los Angeles so you can't just make this out to be always stuck in San Diego although to be the chargers in Los Angeles Oh yeah they're they're like six fill in. La I mean you know it just doesn't like you said everybody's watching their games. You know when they're ready to to call it a night or get to the Sunday night football game every every Sunday I mean and I think it's unfortunate because Keenan Allen is to me is is one of the most underrated players in league if that's possible and certainly one of my favorite to watch but as far as as Houston to shaw was concerned. He's the fourth fastest player to reach fifty passing touchdowns in Super Bowl era between Marino and stafford so we don't know what the fuck that means but I mean it's an interesting stat. I think he's he's reap the benefits of having a left tackle he can depend on and Kenny stills is totally underrated acquisition for them as well. Yes stills adds to it fuller healthy so it's not like he's not working without receivers. He's just okay. There's games especially especially with the way it started the eagles game or shoot me the saints game where you go all right. How is this Guy Gonna be able to say healthy and since that one was zone slot the saints game like the rest of the countries like man this stuff still happen with him? Let's let's do the giants. Here is what it probably talked long. We probably should have gotten this thing in before Daniel Jones. I know you have all the history written down but it just a classic twitter went one way. Let's face it New York fans in attendance at drafts or not great evaluators talent Prazengas Zingo. Kid is some of my least favorite content of all time I'm not telling you I thought Daniel Jones's Guzman to be good but I know when it comes to the NFL draft ninety five percent of the people that have an opinion on it. I've never watched any of these kids. Playing college is the way it works the. NFL draft is so funny to me that you can read about some defensive tackle who played at Mississippi State and then be convinced inst- is a fan that you have to have them when you've never seen him take a snap and then if he's supposed to go where your mcpick is on all the stuff you've seen online and then they ended up taking the safety from cow how the didn't know as much about you. Just assume the pick sucked so that's summarizing reaction to the draft in general because almost everybody does it that way except for the people who work at our watch a lot of college the ball or new Gardener Menchu was more than two weeks ago so the Jones thing was I think more I don't even know if it was his anti Jones Chris is it was anti gettleman because at that point everybody thought gentleman was just as clown show running an NFL team yeah yeah and today's smartest guy in the room which people will say you know caveat being shipped O B J okay. I mean okay. I could argue I I don't I WANNA start a shit storm but you know maybe Daniel Jones is is just fine. I do think when you look at it he just he looks looks. He looks comfortable. Maybe too comfortable times you know two fumbles yesterday but man this guy's mobile bro and I'm seeing a lot of low key fast commentary commentary on my end you yeah coating nineteen and a half miles per hour though on seven yard touchdown run only only QB's to run faster cuyler and Lamar this year the guy's athletic and any moves while in the pocket you know you could see it right away. I think I think a lot of times like I discount preseason because it's just so different and and like I said yesterday I want to get on this. Daniel Jones hype train and I said that for the record in the first quarter because sometimes you just gotTa see a guy get out there for a couple of series and see how comfortable he looks okay but you generalize him you you liked him out of Duke in you. I did like Kim but I didn't WanNa you know part of me. I don't WanNa do this but I'll say I mean I did like him. I I didn't have the balls to say like Tamala. Ha Ha starting my career in the media the first wagon I WANNA hits myself who is is is the most polarizing pick in the NFL draft graphs but listen if he's good enough for CLIFFE's Kinda good enough for me he sure does he. He sure does move while in the pocket rocket he looks comfortable distributing the football I mean he he threw some nice balls yesterday and you know the first third nine and he's got pressure. he ends up converting that third nine and I think all year the giants were Ofer her on there were over twelve on third and seven plus. You Know Daniel Jones WanNa know when he's down eighteen manning on forty four I mean you see all these stats but like they they matter and then the ultimate like where did they come up with. This shit stat that I think is actually valid is is that quarterbacks who had three hundred plus yards two passing touchdowns two rushing touchdowns and a fourth or fourth quarter comeback are young culpepper Newton Breeze Rodgers ages and Jones. Are you buying that stat or do you hate it. I just I don't like I don't like comparing. What's happening? The last couple of years production-wise two previous years. I mean everybody does the manning thing I mean. There's so many different I feel like it's a little like Kevin Bacon where you can look at the start of any young quarterbacks career be like well L. Look it matches up with manning. Look at how it does this so you didn't like Hollow Man Hollow Man Yeah No. I never saw the Jimmy a pitch what was not much to see yet. The movie poster says is that an actual movie yeah. He's fucking invisible. Bro Hollow made me. How do I know this movie because you didn't know Kevin Bacon in it because he's he's he's invisible symbol all right? We're going to have to research this. We get two thousand Film Two Thousand Film Hollow Man Twenty eight percent on rotten tomatoes meadows. It's not a billion ninety nine who discovered a way to make matter invisible. this is a this is what gives me hope is when somebody's house a screenplay writing going. I'm like you see some of the people say yes to yes yeah so you you I mean I would think you should be able to break into that business but they didn't. I remember this is in this film who is a childhood childhood crush. Who is that Elizabeth Shue? Were we talking about here Rhona Mitra. She's supporting actress in this film on on check her out at she could be my neighbor press she could be. I mean I live you live among the stars. I know she was born in London and this is probably when it started all the English people getting our best roles yes. She got hollow man. It was over from there. She's still working. She's GonNa it'd be an squadron forty to the video. I'm just saying I mean you know like yeah. Salamanders a tough one. We were talking about data. Daniel Jones is hollow man. I don't think he's Kevin Bacon. I think Daniel Jones is a guy that you're going to be happy with for a long time. There and I'm ready ready to die on that hill so you're that yeah that's it. You're on it right now. You one game was enough for you. You are the the pushback would be. Hey the people that actually did study draft picks. Their argument was Danny. Jones was not inefficient quarterback at Duke. There's not really much of a track track record for guys malate. Hey the guy that was inefficient there. Now you're going to be efficient on Sundays. It was the you can get better and develop. You know everybody. He is really willing to accept the fact that Lamar's developed. Why can't Daniel Jones develop? I mean you know you look at Lamar from college two year one to year two it's been it's been a process and I think Daniel Jones. It could be a process process to but you know I like what I see and you're gonNA figure out a lot more about Daniel Jones next three weeks so I might hold my take but but but we've got the the Redskins the Vikings and the Patriots those are three pretty solid defenses the latter two being the big tests so we'll see I mean I I enjoyed watching yesterday. You know allies been really classy. He did look legitimately happy for him. I don't think he's a great actor so if he wasn't happy was shot Shaq Barrett though eight sacks and three games the box. Most people don't even know who he is like them since Denver Denver. Don't have any SAX now Shaq Barrett. I can't imagine how hard it would need to be fake. Happy when you've been benched and the other guy wins that's going to be one of the toughest things to do like you can even see it in Bledsoe a little bit when Brady slapping his pads being like we did it. We did it. jus like yeah dude sweet like I haven't Ed Lee and but he's done well bledsoe's done well with that for two decades okay so I mean he's acting happy's don't a hell of a job. Maybe you should get the hollow man the bring him back on me. I'm not saying he's been faking it for twenty years. I'm just saying that in that moment there's no. Ra as an athlete is a competitor somebody where you're going. I'm just as pumped to have been sitting here and been supportive. I mean bledsoe was losing his mind. When he got drafted he he was not abandoned? Listen listen you root for people. I you know I've had I've had situations like that my career were you know like you see a guy draft. There you see something happen roster roster wise and you're like well. That's kind of the end of me or like that's as bad news for me but you gotta be able to like try to separate the personal part of it and not be a hater because like the last thing you want to be as ever hate her and so you almost go into overdrive trying to root for the person or bring them along and and yeah. I just think if you're legitimately