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Farmer Predicts a Food Shortage in the Coming Months

ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes

01:15 min | 5 d ago

Farmer Predicts a Food Shortage in the Coming Months

"And now you've got these farmers out there, there's an African American farmer. And he was on the news saying, hey, you better pay attention. We've got big trouble coming. When you say there's going to be food shortages, or are we talking about things like what we see from Venezuela or from Cuba or from Russia where if you go to the grocery store, is it that they're out of honey nut Cheerios or are they out of all cereal? Well, most people don't know, calling for instance is in corn flakes and corn syrup. Soybeans are in all sorts of products that wind up in your local grocery stores. So when you don't have enough corn, you don't have enough wheat. You don't have enough soybeans. Those things, those are major items that we need to make all of these other products are not going to be in your local grocery stores. Like we've been used to for so long, we've had enjoyed lots of food in this country. So we've never, ever faced a food shortage. And I think that's coming in the coming months. The Biden administration that I've been urging to take more swift action still hasn't taken the action that's, I believe that's needed.

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A Look Back at the Great Financial Crisis of 2008

The Charlie Kirk Show

02:02 min | 5 months ago

A Look Back at the Great Financial Crisis of 2008

"So in 2004, 5 and 6, you saw the housing boom, largely thanks to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Thanks to the negligence of our own quote unquote housing regulators, cheap money policies from Washington, D.C., buying up bad mortgages and incentivizing people to do the same. We built an entire economic model on a House of Cards of people that were bar waitresses earning cash tips that had three homes, two of which they've never visited because people were incentive incentivized to go to low income neighborhoods and sign up people for as many mortgages as they possibly can. We all know what happened next, which was the great financial crisis, Lehman Brothers, bear Stearns, and for the first time ever, despite the insistence of Jim Cramer, those companies went under. In the years that followed 2008 and 2009, our leaders were faced with a tough decision. You see, the 2000s saw an economic boom the likes of which we never thought was possible. Now what our leaders decide to metaphorically take the cough syrup, tighten the belt, tell Americans that we're not going to indulge in this continual behavior of deficit spending and debt mounting on future generations, of course not. Barack Hussein Obama won the election in the fall of 2008 was sworn in in 2009 and Ben Bernanke then Federal Reserve chairman, Hank Paulson treasury secretary and Timothy Geithner under treasury treasury secretary three awfully treacherous people if you asked me all decided, hey, let's just keep interest rates low. It's not like we're going to experience long-term inflation. And then we saw a stimulus package passed by Barack Obama, a then 850 to $900 billion stimulus package. It was passed as the national recovery act after that Obama passed ObamaCare, a takeover of the American healthcare industry. Debts and deficits continued to sword, and then a couple years later, I started to get

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"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

52:48 min | 10 months ago

"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"The vampire. Equivalent of a cooper whole foods co op wholefoods is no longer the best example but but part of the way they do this and keep these healthy is also by limiting the the amount of time per year when this when this tapping occurs it only takes place for about four to six weeks so think roughly a month and change deering something that is called the door of de sugar season which i think is also a good name for maybe not a ban but an album and this is still. We'll see there's a lot of limitation here and limitations placed on this process. People argue for the good of the tree but they're also at the whim of the weather. It's there's a ideal time to tap this tree tap into this tree and most of these. Tadpoles only give you about ten gallons of sap throughout that period. So four thinking. Back to the attrition that you would describe that means that we're talking for tap holes over a period of brown four to six weeks making forty gallons of sap making one gal maple syrup a ton whoa goes into this. Yeah a ton of work and not that much yield right and therein lies this entire episode. Yeah it's a fascinating process. We spend some time you know especially For those of you all familiar with our all school origins house of works. We would totally spend at our. He'd just exploring how cool this process is but for our purposes today fellow conspiracy realist. It's just important to know how much work goes into each one of those little bottles. The industry today is surprisingly big. There's a lot of. There's a lot of money and maple it turns out by twenty twenty three. This is going to be worth the maple syrup industry alone. It's going to be worth one point. Seven billion dollars. This story may be familiar to some of us listening today because there was a netflix documentary. That came out not too long ago. A great series called dirty money and in one episode in season. One dirty money. They discuss Maple syrup in a way. That's related to this. It turns out officially because of all the time dedicated to creating this. There is a premium price. But it's also only part of the reason there's a premium of price anyway right now when the statistics you'll hear thrown around is accurate but it changes a little bit year over year. A single barrel of maple syrup would be worth around one thousand eight hundred dollars. Eighteen hundred dollars which makes it currently more than twenty times the price of a barrel of oil which is right. Now as we record about seventy three seventy four bucks. That'll that'll change. But they're maple syrup has been more expensive than oil for a long long time. Yeah and it's really great comparison. Because ben isn't joking you're talking around it when he's saying a barrel of this substance d. A barrel of oil is the same as a the the same barrels basically that you can find maple in and and oil in and that also is very important to this story. Yeah yeah forty two gallons. That's how much a Forty two us gallons. That's the size of both of these kinds of barrels so this industry also gets further specialized because is very localized. Maples don't grow everywhere. Maple serves not made everywhere in fact. It's it's pretty much exclusively created in north america. The biggest manufacturer is vermont. That stereotype is true. Vermont is a very big a maple syrup industry at least in the us but that us behemoth is absolutely dwarfed by canada. That's where the real maple action goes down. The province of quebec specifically makes in excess of seventy percent of the world's entire supply of maple syrup and this is why outfits like the economists were investigative reporters carolyn jarvis who appears dirty. Money have called canada. The saudi arabia of maple syrup. It's not just the clever title. It's pretty accurate. It's all intermeshed with the oil industry. Love it yeah. Most people outside of these very specific regions that specialize in producing the stuff Or outside specific industries that are associated normally think about maple syrup Until back in two thousand twelve that is when there was a story that hit the press Where it had been discovered that someone had pulled a heist. Ben you you refer to it as an ocean's eleven level heist with your bag man and you're inside man and all your other doesn't have to be a man but you know in the parlance of heists and this crew If you will were involved in stealing thousands of tonnes Of the stuff and making off with around eighteen point seven million dollars canadian which is around fifteen million usd Worth of maple syrup. And if you were talking about this around the water cooler It might have at the time like tin for most people. i imagine. Strike you as a little bit funny Immediately when you hear somebody stole maple syrup. That's right because what do you do with all that. That's what do you not back in two thousand twelve. That was the immediate question. It's like one of those hikes where you know. I try notices too often air. But oh i've weird thing with dirigibles always joked about stealing blimp airship and the big the reason. That's so humorous is because the hell do you do it where yeah where are you going to put all that maple syrup how do you. How do you explain that. How do you adia launder naples. Syrup offense maple syrup. that's a good question ben. Among the end of the day How is it any different than any. Other valuable commodity. You know 'cause valuable it absolutely is as you mentioned earlier it costs upwards of a under two grand a barrel whereas oil i think is only around seventy five seventy six bucks so i mean absolutely sticky brown is what the stuff is but You know chuckles aside. When the story came through there really is absolutely dark. presumably somewhat sticky underbelly to the world of maple syrup because the story didn't just end up exposing these criminals who did get caught and convicted ultimately expose something else something much deeper and arguably more sinister A multigenerational cartel like operation that spanned decades. You see the economist. And jarvis didn't just say. The canada was the saudi arabia of maple syrup. They went a little further and they said this situation also has an opec yup dares a conspiracy afoot in the land of pancakes waffles. Folks just like the stories diamonds or the early days of light bulbs turns out. Maple syrup is run by a cartel. What are we talking about. We'll tell you after word from our sponsor week one may be over but the season's just getting started at draft king sportsbook in officials sports betting partner of the nfl to kick off week to draft. Kings is giving new customers two hundred dollars in free bets instantly when they one dollar on any football game. Listen up because you don't want to miss this head to the draft king sportsbook app now and place a bet of one dollar on any week. 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Aright opec is the organization of petroleum exporting countries. You have if you've depending on the kind of news you've read over the years or decades. You've probably heard opec being brought up various times in in the west and that's because opec cat it makes for a very convenient boogeyman especially when you get toil wars and fossil fuel prices because opec is what is known as a cartel usually will we hear the word cartel we associated with drugs cocaine. You know what i mean like. This is This is because we often hear the terms together. We don't hear things like banking cartel right and and even the diamond cartel is very much real. You like nine times out of ten when you hear the word cartel described in the news. It's going to be referring to drugs but what had actually defines is just this. Let's say that. Matt knoll mission control. And i all make out. What's something fund that we make some specific line facific slime for kids. We make we make like that. That kind of let's say it's like a branded k. It's a very specific kind of slide with like nickelodeon gak there. We go so we make we make gac and what we are the four largest manufacturers of gac and we were coming called gacaca. Your company's called gac. It is called matt gak well anyway i. We got lots of room to play with this. We are the four largest manufacturers of gac and we say hey why are we. Are we fighting with each other. You know what i mean. Why why why are we all living within. Like dogs and poppers for a measly twenty five percent of a small piece of pie. We could get together. We can make the pie bigger and we could all profit off and what we would do then. Is we be a group of suppliers or manufacturers and we would conspire with each other literally. Say okay the price of gac no matter what is always going to be arrested development reference is always going to be like what could it cost ten dollars you know. That's that's what we'll do. We'll do it the way they did bananas and then we would say in addition to that four of us are also going to cooperate whether through a transparent legal means or through unethical illegal means to keep all those other dirty competitors out of the game. You know there's there's a they're a bunch of independent producers jack and we are going to destroy them so free market. A cartel is not. Yoda would say a really great example of this isn't a show that i've been watching recently the wire Where there is a group of rival drug dealers who are constantly at each other's throats and warring and dropping bodies in the streets and then They inevitably eventually get together pool. Their resources use their influence to get the best product and then share real estate And then they also use that to vanquish any other competition or if there is competition that's worth bringing into this collusion are cartel type situation. They do that and just absorb them but ultimately is about limiting competition and about kind of the rising tide carrying vessels but also not having any outsiders yet in price-fixing in i think just one minor thing we're missing with the gac version. We're talking about here. is that with most cartels. there's either a natural resource or a resource that is limited. there's limited access to write is all organic exactly making excellent point in the in the gac example you would just it would be more about the things needed to create the gac right so in this in naples. The reason why it's important or like almost like almost needed to have a cartel like this. And i know as a little controversial. We'll get into it. But because there is a limited amount of the stuff in circulation at any given time in controlling that the supply becomes vital to the industry right right it becomes monopolistic and the world of dune by frank. Herbert has an excellent example. Of this. With the spice. This is not based on some sort of made up thing now. The the cartel in question is called the federation of quebec maple syrup producers but the the real name is in french because it's coie it's usually referred to by the acronym fda q this story of the organizations interesting dates back to the nineteen fifties. These guys have been active for a while so over in southern quebec. A group of remember the name sugar makers We're having a hard time because this is this is hard work just like farming. These folks are often the whims of the weather. They don't know what may or may not affect the trees and sometimes it's like active god level disasters so they said look. We can no longer be at the whims of a market. We have to be able to guarantee our survival rival our kids and our businesses. So we're going to get together and we're going to voltron up. We'll collectively market our able syrup. The starts in one thousand nine fifty eight the idea catches on it. Leads to the formation of a larger group ultimately across the entirety of quebec and since nineteen eighty nine all the they're typically called producers all the sugar makers in this f p q have worked together as a cartel. They've set prices and they've also done something else. They've set production quotas. That's the big problem that the us historically had with opec. They we get mad at opec. And i had an old professor years ago. Who said was very nice person but they said opec exists to stop the flow of oil and make it expensive. And i thought it was a little hot take because it didn't seem like a good idea as a business model but it turns out. It's a great ideas business model in some cases especially if you want to enrich a small number of families that own all the oil in the middle east yes or or tycoons like us out so so this is this is again. It's similar to opec it similar to two beers which is the infamous diamond cartel or similar to the feebis cartel. Which is the group that back in the day. Purposefully made light bulbs crappier. Yeah and also just hey. Don't sleep on the diamond. The beers diamond thing that we i think we just put out the classic episode on diamonds on the laura Question i knew the answer. But just hypothetically speaking a cartel isn't inherently illegal. I mean there certainly are illegal. Cartels that traffic in illegal goods but to me the whole purpose of cartel is to limit competition and essentially. Create a monopoly. So is it just kind of like a loophole that allows for a legal monopoly of some sort. And why aren't these challenged. More often by regulators want agree question. Yes the answer is. We'll find verges on the philosophical points but Without sounding too cynical. What i would say that i welcome disagreements with this what i would say. Is that the issue of legality ultimately becomes just an issue of who controls the mechanisms of the state. That's why different countries have different laws. Like if you so so like somebody may consider the activities of a cartel domestically or internationally illegal but if that cartel is powerful enough if they have enough access enough what you would call juice in the wire or suction in the wires. Cited industry makes a lot of money right or if they're industry has already been purchased through perhaps unethical means by the rulers of the country. Then they get to decide what they think is legal or illegal so that's why we have these legal cartels and then there's a greater good argument that comes out and sometimes it's a good faith argument but the the idea here is the idea of what these guys are doing. This group is legal. The government of canada has sanctioned this but not everybody agrees. Because there's very much who watches the watchmen situation anytime you talk about a cartel because you could ask people throughout mining operations run by de beers what they think of the cartel's activities and yes sometimes at being ethical and being legal or not always the same thing you know. Unfortunately it again like we were making these comparisons because it is the best. These are the best ways to actually make these connections and talk about these things but you know the mining operations in some of the horrors. They are very different from you know sugar makers tapping trees right. But also i mean there. That's the thing we we love the complexity of a topic like this. Because it's it's not apples to apples or maples to maples. There is in everyone of. And i'm only saying this to point out that a lot of sugar makers and from what i've seen in the stats in some of the stuff that was shown in that dirty money episode the producers in the sugar makers the vast majority of them are down with this cartel because it helps them individually. Make sure that they're able to sell their product at a good enough price to get loans right and to be able to make enough enough profit off of something that could be not profitable. Yeah it's not like these. It's not like these folks who are in this in this industry whether they are opposed to the cartel or whether they support it. It's not like they're billionaires. You know what i mean. They're they're like anybody else for the job. Trying to get by and in the opec example is interesting is if you were a member of opec you would see clear advantages especially when you were cognizant of the way that colonial powers absolately exploited anyplace with oil four as long as they. Could you know what i mean. So e is seeing as a protective defensive move which is why it is called protectionism. So this liked to to that point right now. This word is legal. It's a fantastic question. We'll get into the philosophy of the of the problem later. But from the perspective of the folks the many members and supporters of what is sometimes just called the federation for shorthand. This group is taking necessary actions to ensure that all important price stability because otherwise you're just out there independently. What if what if the weather does it work out. What if something terrible happens to the trees in your sugar brush which is what the collection and copes of trees being tapped is called c. Because they're all like sh- words with sugar in them so we can't just list them all well and ben also what if what if you produce too much right. What if you've got too much stuff and you don't have a buyer for all of this surplus produced radia syrup surplus could be as bad as a syrup shortage this this leads to that that quota system because the federation doesn't just dictate the price at which syrup has to be sold in quebec they also dictate how much you as a sugar maker can make each sugaring season so like if we did that with our gac cartel then we would be telling blake. Let's say we all agreed that we were going to sell. We were all only going to sell ten million tons of gag units. There we go. There's a little better. Yeah ten million units each of gac and then let's see mission. Control has a bumper year. His gac trees are doing awesome. And he's like i've made twenty million units gac and then we say well sorry rope that's over your quota so you cannot sell it as a matter of fact you have to give it to us. That's what happens in the maple syrup situation if you have a great year no matter who you are if you have a great year and you harvest more than the allow quota you cannot sell the excess syrup the way you would want to because it might end up driving down that price increases surplus instead. You have to ship it to you. Not something called the global strategic reserve of maple syrup yet again. The oil comparison holds the. Us has a global reserve of oil or strategic reserve. Now forgive me if i'm incorrect here. My understanding is that it's not them just handing it over like for free they would. They would get payment for not as donating but essentially giving their syrup to preserve. Yes yeah and the the key issue. There is the timing. So let's look at the other case. If there's a low production year the federation taps get it that reserve. And they release a controlled amount of syrup into late out into the world into circulation. Let's call it right. Yes they circulate this europe and some people love this setup because again like like matt saying earlier this makes it much much easier to predict how future years will play out which is huge hugely important. But other people had a problem with this other maple syrup producers Not just like outside observers with some economic policy ax to grind people. Say i've been making maple syrup my whole life. This maple syrup. Operation has been our family for generations. We want to take a cue from fleetwood. Mac and go our own way The federation wasn't really cool with this in two thousand in the early two thousand. You'll hear it called two thousand or two thousand four in the early two thousands. They did this thing where they created. An exclusive selling agency. Meaning that matter who you are. You're in quebec in your in the syrup game you. You can't sell like directly to a supermarket. You know what i mean. You can't make a deal with like a restaurant chain to just carry your your syrup. You have to sell it to the federation that agreed upon price and they will basically run the rest of the sales from there. So if you like this and you wanted to sell things yourself. You ended up putting syrup on an actual black-market. Wow so this is to say that any syrup in the syrup mile at your local grocery store chain whether it's the like twelve ninety nine a bottle seemingly small batch family operation kind of situation or whether it's your you know whatever the like i don't even know what the The the most mainstream syrup dejoras today. They're all going through this system. Otherwise now seventy percents right now if you were walking in a grocery store or any store selling maple syrup almost anywhere in the world in excess of seventy percent of. It is coming not just from canada but from this place which means like syrup black market unless there's like a black market supermarket. Some syrup comes from the united states. obviously i mean. That's the issue here. I see well and a lot of syrup. You will find for sale wherever you live is going to be corn syrup that scott some color in it and may have some maple flavoring and or maple syrup involved. But it's mostly core. But i can't say pure no no i can't say pure. And there is a premium on organic maple syrup but largely like these. This organization has the heft to swing around to get. Its way this is where stuff started clamping down and for people who are big free market. Proponents this is where it becomes a little bit of a horror story. Because all producers in the area all sugar makers in the area are required to sell their product directly to this organization whether or not they want to. So it's not. It's not quite the same thing as like a union. You can't opt in right. There is there is one exception. Which is you can sell small amounts of your syrup directly from your farm which are called love this sugar shacks cue to be the you can so you can sell your own stuff to people like happen by right and you can also if you want you can sell the supermarkets as long as you give the federation there are cut which is twelve percent off. The top is not as big of a as a google takes off youtube. Still twelve percent makes a big difference in people's lives as a matter of fact. Let's let's talk a little bit more about the money in this relationship. Because that's where that's where the problems with cartels usually come into play and that's usually where you see like the if not conspiracy and corruption. That's where you're going to see the conflict. Yes estimates right now. Our best estimate is that the federation the cartel takes the equivalent of eleven cents. Us off of every pound of syrup produced so. Let's just do the math here. One gallon of syrup contains eleven pounds so a dollar twenty one. us per gallon of syrup. Basically and interestingly. And i guess kinda rationally that money that the federation takes off according to them goes to the promotion of maple maple syrup thing. It is like bright. We're promoting the industry itself by having this this group over like deployed on top of it and also in research. How can we tap these trees better. And how can we store this maple for longer. And what scientifically proven advantages does maple syrup have over say something something others some other sweet substance that people might buy in a store like honey so this makes sense and if you are a sugar maker you also pay an administrative fee to this organization but again the people who are running this organization staffing at working for it. They're going to say look. We're making ends meet but please stop calling us. Stop calling us tycoons and stuff. Because we're just we're trying to do what's best for everybody. Thing is again the for their involvement weather consensual or nonconsensual. These producers are paid in installments. So like going back to our surplus your example you send in. You've exceeded your quota. How dare you be good at what you do right. How dare you be extraordinary. What you're doing then. You will be paid for the syrup that has to be shipped off to the strategic reserve. But you're paid on kind of a layaway plan. And this has led some unhappy syrup makers to say that. They've they've said they're waiting months or in some cases years for these payments to come in. And if you are paying other bills or cost associated with keeping the lights on etc etc then you can't really go to your utility company and say wait number money. I'll get to you next year. Fingers crossed knock maplewood and you can totally see why the black market feels like it may be a viable option for that individual like you said who needs to make payments to other people while they're waiting on the other. There's certainly are. You know critics of this system from on the proofs or side and one particularly vocal producer who is fighting against f. Pack fpu is an gel gronyea Who was kind of tired of the whole setup. She was sick of cartel pushing her around and decided to take on a direct sales model where she sold her syrup. Right to a distributor bypassing the efc entirely and the police got involved all of her stock that she had warehouse seized and she was slapped with a crippling. Five hundred thousand dollar fine very much. Seems like they're trying to make an example of her so. This is a restricted. Really see problems brewing and ben. I believe this is one of the primary interviewees on that dirty money episode. Yeah this this person who's very outspoken. In kind of leading a fight against the cartel. It's a fascinating story. Recommend you check out that episode if you can just to to get the background on it but we're going to bring a continue on here because that was just the beginning of the issues at hand here yes. Trouble was on the horizon. Pause for word from our sponsor will return with more. Unless of course big maple gets us might have noticed the change in your neighborhood lately yep sprint stores are now team mobile stores that it spreads t. mobile you get more coverage value and benefits than ever before we've invested billions. Bring five g. From big cities to small towns across america. Great coverage is just start high. Speed mobile hotspot data to weekly deals and giveaways our customers get tons of great benefits. That you knew t. mobile store to learn more. Go find service and capable device require coverage not available in some areas. Some use to me require certain planner. Features c. t. mobile dot com. 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A singular thing might be a little misleading to people because it's located in a series of three warehouses in rural quebec and over the course of twenty eleven in two thousand twelve this group of conspirators stole thousands and thousands of tons of maple syrup and it was a slow motion operation. They the federation themselves only found out about this when they had that. Let's another moment from the heist like the story which is just a neat montage of tropes. Basically the there's always the moment in the heist where there's the big reveal you know. Someone opens the safe. That it's gone. It turns out that the cops were also working with the robbers. And then the bad guy. Whomever in this case federation doesn't seem themselves to the bad guy but you know like heist crew probably saw them as the bad guy. There's this moment if you could picture ocean's eleven quebec where someone from the federation opens one of these syrup barrels and says holy. Oh no that's that's water. That's not syrup. How much did they get us for. And they found out that this was easily like a quarter of the syrup strategic reserve which means it's easily quarter of the world's saved up supply and yet the police were evolved. This was a huge crime in just a few days. In december of twenty canadian police ended up arresting like seventeen different people who had some connection with the plot and that was on the orders of this cartel which continues today and again. We can't emphasize this enough. We're not worried about calling them villains. It does have ardent supporters and it does have die hard opponents and we have to remember that scillies a headline might sound. These are real people maple serve stuff is not their hobby. They get up every day and think about it because it's their livelihood and grenada famous example but there are others sugar makers who have been slapped with fines huge fights. They've also had their syrup the stuff they made seized by this organisation for going outside of its its rules. And that's why you'll hear people like grenades say the federation says they own my trees they make the treat it like. It's their property. Rhetoric really interesting article by a reporter named ross mera wits who said that the cartel may accidentally to a degree be working against its own interests because their rules may be strengthening competition from other provinces in canada and non-canadian competition in the us. I think ross actually has a you know a pretty compelling case there because if you can get look if the reason why i bought this particular maple syrup was because it was like five or six dollars less than the other one's not the not the fully like single barreled ones. You were mentioning there. No but you know. The one hundred percent maple syrups that existed where i went to bhai syrup. And it's still one hundred percent maple syrup but it's significantly less expensive and if you if you've got competitors out there that are dinner able to have stuff on the market that is not at the prices you're fixing that are lower than those prices then you could be in very big trouble especially if you get them to big distributors like i don't know here in atlanta like a kroger or of a walmart or a whole foods or something like that. Yeah the canadian supply and the cartel itself could be in trouble. Imagine to like. There's this thing called. Oh gosh it's not the ao see. What's the The lawmaker but there's an organization in france that regulates what products can be given what names like for example. True french champagne can only be called champagne. If it comes from the champagne region of france Does this cartel also Govern kind of purity claims like defeat calling something one hundred percent pure maple syrup or even just pure maple syrup like in terms of how to use the wire terms how much it can be stepped on. You know. Because i imagine that some maple syrup is diluted in some way So that you can make your yield go further. I don't have specifics on that. I would just say that in something like this product that i have here. The only ingredient is maple syrup. so i've seen others that are like seventy five percent pure maple syrup and then extra stuff something like that But i don't know the naming conventions in how they're applied. Yeah because it may be sold not directly to the end consumer but it might be sold to a company that then makes something a blend somehow of the syrups. So it's it's interesting because they're trying to they're trying it's phrased and very optimistic way by the federation they're like we wanna take. We want to participate in this expanding market. But it's it's not inaccurate. Because the production in quebec has increased year over year for a decade. It increased thirty percent from two thousand seven and two thousand seventeen. But it's also understandable. How if you're making maple syrup in quebec. You might feel these rules however well intentioned hurt you more than they help you because imagine your scene some you know some guy who's like a weird equivalent or reverse carpet bagging out from vermont crosses over the border and the same rules. Don't apply to them. They can sell the vermont syrup all the live long day. And so these other these kappa kwa sugar makers the ones who were opposed to the federation when she get the research that we saw seems indicate there in the minority but the these folks feel that they traded one disadvantage for another. They're saying look is hedging against them predictable weather. Is it worth knowing that. I have to wait for months or years to get paid. Is it worth knowing that. I can't do what i want with the trees that i or my family name spent forty years minimum growing supporters of the staff of the federation people like simon. The executive director they disagree with being characterized as some shady behemoth again. They're they're not. They wouldn't say they're like tycoons certainly not oil country level wealthy nicknamed at their first and foremost concern is to represent people who actually make maple syrup but here we get to the end because if you are outside of the industry and you are thinking about this. It may represent a much older conundrum. which is the philosophical conflict between a controlled market and a free market. And this is a very this. Conversation is cyclical in the mainstream. It comes up pretty often. You know and sometimes it's phrased and very very simplistic terms like someone's quoting ayn rand it you or whatever but the the real question here is what what would be the benefit. If there's a syrup free mark if there's an unfettered syrup free for all its weird image out of context would that would that be better for these individuals or would instead lead back to like crazy fluctuations and result in the surplus as you described mad or people having find closed down their family. Sugar shacks what would happen. Who knows and there's uncertainty in there right and that's kind of maybe the whole point. I really want to look at. Who does this benefit the most by following the money so the federation itself we talked about they get eleven cents per pound of maple syrup produced so the federation gets that benefit they also get benefit when they expand so they add more producers. they can continue to make that eleven cents per pound so in two thousand seventeen. The federation made a move. They said they're gonna add five million new taps so that's like taps not necessarily an individual tree but individual taps intrigue to its existing forty three million taps and the goal. There is to really just more fully participate in that larger market that we talked about and what they really want to see is an increase production overall by thirty percent of so for you know until twenty twenty seven or whatever if they can. They want to do that right in what i want. My understanding is controlling these prices guaranteeing that a sugar makers gonna make this money. The biggest benefit is that the bank knows that if you're producing maple they will back you up with with money for loans to either. Continue your business or expand your business because they are guaranteed to get paid back at least some amount because you're guaranteed to be making money by this cartel and if the banks if the banks and the gar- teller like yeah. We're all good here. We can expand. We'll give you money to expand the cartels making money on the top. The bank is lending out tons of money. That's making tons of interest on these loans. Everybody's like doing great in the sugar makers are making you know. Whatever the prices are the cartel says they're going to be. It feels like the banks are actually winning in this. I mean the banks are usually way in a lot of a lot of sites. Unfortunately but but they're designed to right. So that's that's a very great point about controlled market you know does. Does this collective action. You could call it to control the quebec's spice does it. Ultimately make it easier for people to succeed or is it really hurting more people than it helps or who. Is it really helping to your cheer question. That's that's something again that we're not making a call on but a lot of people are a lot of people are trying to answer that question and for others and for me as well. You know one thing. That really stuck out was the concept of consent consent. Informed consent is is a huge hugely important thing in every aspect of your life professional and personal in. It's a key factor. So would the federation would ask what they get less criticism if they didn't mandate or four speed to participate so again while these questions the tricky thing with these questions is that they all verge into prognostication and philosophy. You can't really predict the future. Unless you're unless darpa a little further ahead than i think and the as a result of these questions are not easy to answer it does go to show the just like in the case of the greek cheese spiracy though even the most innocuous seeming things can have a conspiracy behind them. And so with this. We want to ask you folks. I off waffles or pancakes. We're when i'm not letting go. I gotta tell you i. I respect your decision if you're paying pancake person more pancakes for you. But while you're thinking about that ask yourself should maple producers be required to join. This federation is helping or hurting them. Overall with this high still have occurred if the federation didn't exist. I mean let us know. Let us know if you'd like to hear more stories about food conspiracies. Though be warned friends some of these stories are much much darker than this one. Cough cough palm oil cough cough chocolate cough cough. Is that a subtle enough hint you. Oh that's that works. Don't even don't even look into the gac industry that show god. It's bad no we get. We've tire time. We've been doing a podcast for fun. But we're really we're jackman at the end of the jackman jackman jackman. How how How can people find is. How can they tell us these things. They just shout out into the void into the sky. Yeah so is your what cartel are you associated with the bloomfield whistle. You can find us on twitter and facebook and youtube we are. We are conspiracy stuff on instagram. We're conspiracy stuff show. Oh and i forgot to point out. The trees do not.

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"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"The vampire. Equivalent of a cooper whole foods co op wholefoods is no longer the best example but but part of the way they do this and keep these healthy is also by limiting the the amount of time per year when this when this tapping occurs it only takes place for about four to six weeks so think roughly a month and change deering something that is called the door of de sugar season which i think is also a good name for maybe not a ban but an album and this is still. We'll see there's a lot of limitation here and limitations placed on this process. People argue for the good of the tree but they're also at the whim of the weather. It's there's a ideal time to tap this tree tap into this tree and most of these. Tadpoles only give you about ten gallons of sap throughout that period. So four thinking. Back to the attrition that you would describe that means that we're talking for tap holes over a period of brown four to six weeks making forty gallons of sap making one gal maple syrup a ton whoa goes into this. Yeah a ton of work and not that much yield right and therein lies this entire episode. Yeah it's a fascinating process. We spend some time you know especially For those of you all familiar with our all school origins house of works. We would totally spend at our. He'd just exploring how cool this process is but for our purposes today fellow conspiracy realist. It's just important to know how much work goes into each one of those little bottles. The industry today is surprisingly big. There's a lot of. There's a lot of money and maple it turns out by twenty twenty three. This is going to be worth the maple syrup industry alone. It's going to be worth one point. Seven billion dollars. This story may be familiar to some of us listening today because there was a netflix documentary. That came out not too long ago. A great series called dirty money and in one episode in season. One dirty money. They discuss Maple syrup in a way. That's related to this. It turns out officially because of all the time dedicated to creating this. There is a premium price. But it's also only part of the reason there's a premium of price anyway right now when the statistics you'll hear thrown around is accurate but it changes a little bit year over year. A single barrel of maple syrup would be worth around one thousand eight hundred dollars. Eighteen hundred dollars which makes it currently more than twenty times the price of a barrel of oil which is right. Now as we record about seventy three seventy four bucks. That'll that'll change. But they're maple syrup has been more expensive than oil for a long long time. Yeah and it's really great comparison. Because ben isn't joking you're talking around it when he's saying a barrel of this substance d. A barrel of oil is the same as a the the same barrels basically that you can find maple in and and oil in and that also is very important to this story. Yeah yeah forty two gallons. That's how much a Forty two us gallons. That's the size of both of these kinds of barrels so this industry also gets further specialized because is very localized. Maples don't grow everywhere. Maple serves not made everywhere in fact. It's it's pretty much exclusively created in north america. The biggest manufacturer is vermont. That stereotype is true. Vermont is a very big a maple syrup industry at least in the us but that us behemoth is absolutely dwarfed by canada. That's where the real maple action goes down. The province of quebec specifically makes in excess of seventy percent of the world's entire supply of maple syrup and this is why outfits like the economists were investigative reporters carolyn jarvis who appears dirty. Money have called canada. The saudi arabia of maple syrup. It's not just the clever title. It's pretty accurate. It's all intermeshed with the oil industry. Love it yeah. Most people outside of these very specific regions that specialize in producing the stuff Or outside specific industries that are associated normally think about maple syrup Until back in two thousand twelve that is when there was a story that hit the press Where it had been discovered that someone had pulled a heist. Ben you you refer to it as an ocean's eleven level heist with your bag man and you're inside man and all your other doesn't have to be a man but you know in the parlance of heists and this crew If you will were involved in stealing thousands of tonnes Of the stuff and making off with around eighteen point seven million dollars canadian which is around fifteen million usd Worth of maple syrup. And if you were talking about this around the water cooler It might have at the time like tin for most people. i imagine. Strike you as a little bit funny Immediately when you hear somebody stole maple syrup. That's right because what do you do with all that. That's what do you not back in two thousand twelve. That was the immediate question. It's like one of those hikes where you know. I try notices too often air. But oh i've weird thing with dirigibles always joked about stealing blimp airship and the big the reason. That's so humorous is because the hell do you do it where yeah where are you going to put all that maple syrup how do you. How do you explain that. How do you adia launder naples. Syrup offense maple syrup. that's a good question ben. Among the end of the day How is it any different than any. Other valuable commodity. You know 'cause valuable it absolutely is as you mentioned earlier it costs upwards of a under two grand a barrel whereas oil i think is only around seventy five seventy six bucks so i mean absolutely sticky brown is what the stuff is but You know chuckles aside. When the story came through there really is absolutely dark. presumably somewhat sticky underbelly to the world of maple syrup because the story didn't just end up exposing these criminals who did get caught and convicted ultimately expose something else something much deeper and arguably more sinister A multigenerational cartel like operation that spanned decades. You see the economist. 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Aright opec is the organization of petroleum exporting countries. You have if you've depending on the kind of news you've read over the years or decades. You've probably heard opec being brought up various times in in the west and that's because opec cat it makes for a very convenient boogeyman especially when you get toil wars and fossil fuel prices because opec is what is known as a cartel usually will we hear the word cartel we associated with drugs cocaine. You know what i mean like. This is This is because we often hear the terms together. We don't hear things like banking cartel right and and even the diamond cartel is very much real. You like nine times out of ten when you hear the word cartel described in the news. It's going to be referring to drugs but what had actually defines is just this. Let's say that. Matt knoll mission control. And i all make out. What's something fund that we make some specific line facific slime for kids. We make we make like that. That kind of let's say it's like a branded k. It's a very specific kind of slide with like nickelodeon gak there. We go so we make we make gac and what we are the four largest manufacturers of gac and we were coming called gacaca. Your company's called gac. It is called matt gak well anyway i. We got lots of room to play with this. We are the four largest manufacturers of gac and we say hey why are we. Are we fighting with each other. You know what i mean. Why why why are we all living within. Like dogs and poppers for a measly twenty five percent of a small piece of pie. We could get together. We can make the pie bigger and we could all profit off and what we would do then. Is we be a group of suppliers or manufacturers and we would conspire with each other literally. Say okay the price of gac no matter what is always going to be arrested development reference is always going to be like what could it cost ten dollars you know. That's that's what we'll do. We'll do it the way they did bananas and then we would say in addition to that four of us are also going to cooperate whether through a transparent legal means or through unethical illegal means to keep all those other dirty competitors out of the game. You know there's there's a they're a bunch of independent producers jack and we are going to destroy them so free market. A cartel is not. Yoda would say a really great example of this isn't a show that i've been watching recently the wire Where there is a group of rival drug dealers who are constantly at each other's throats and warring and dropping bodies in the streets and then They inevitably eventually get together pool. Their resources use their influence to get the best product and then share real estate And then they also use that to vanquish any other competition or if there is competition that's worth bringing into this collusion are cartel type situation. They do that and just absorb them but ultimately is about limiting competition and about kind of the rising tide carrying vessels but also not having any outsiders yet in price-fixing in i think just one minor thing we're missing with the gac version. We're talking about here. is that with most cartels. there's either a natural resource or a resource that is limited. there's limited access to write is all organic exactly making excellent point in the in the gac example you would just it would be more about the things needed to create the gac right so in this in naples. The reason why it's important or like almost like almost needed to have a cartel like this. And i know as a little controversial. We'll get into it. But because there is a limited amount of the stuff in circulation at any given time in controlling that the supply becomes vital to the industry right right it becomes monopolistic and the world of dune by frank. Herbert has an excellent example. Of this. With the spice. This is not based on some sort of made up thing now. The the cartel in question is called the federation of quebec maple syrup producers but the the real name is in french because it's coie it's usually referred to by the acronym fda q this story of the organizations interesting dates back to the nineteen fifties. These guys have been active for a while so over in southern quebec. A group of remember the name sugar makers We're having a hard time because this is this is hard work just like farming. These folks are often the whims of the weather. They don't know what may or may not affect the trees and sometimes it's like active god level disasters so they said look. We can no longer be at the whims of a market. We have to be able to guarantee our survival rival our kids and our businesses. So we're going to get together and we're going to voltron up. We'll collectively market our able syrup. The starts in one thousand nine fifty eight the idea catches on it. Leads to the formation of a larger group ultimately across the entirety of quebec and since nineteen eighty nine all the they're typically called producers all the sugar makers in this f p q have worked together as a cartel. They've set prices and they've also done something else. They've set production quotas. That's the big problem that the us historically had with opec. They we get mad at opec. And i had an old professor years ago. Who said was very nice person but they said opec exists to stop the flow of oil and make it expensive. And i thought it was a little hot take because it didn't seem like a good idea as a business model but it turns out. It's a great ideas business model in some cases especially if you want to enrich a small number of families that own all the oil in the middle east yes or or tycoons like us out so so this is this is again. It's similar to opec it similar to two beers which is the infamous diamond cartel or similar to the feebis cartel. Which is the group that back in the day. Purposefully made light bulbs crappier. Yeah and also just hey. Don't sleep on the diamond. The beers diamond thing that we i think we just put out the classic episode on diamonds on the laura Question i knew the answer. But just hypothetically speaking a cartel isn't inherently illegal. I mean there certainly are illegal. Cartels that traffic in illegal goods but to me the whole purpose of cartel is to limit competition and essentially. Create a monopoly. So is it just kind of like a loophole that allows for a legal monopoly of some sort. And why aren't these challenged. More often by regulators want agree question. Yes the answer is. We'll find verges on the philosophical points but Without sounding too cynical. What i would say that i welcome disagreements with this what i would say. Is that the issue of legality ultimately becomes just an issue of who controls the mechanisms of the state. That's why different countries have different laws. Like if you so so like somebody may consider the activities of a cartel domestically or internationally illegal but if that cartel is powerful enough if they have enough access enough what you would call juice in the wire or suction in the wires. Cited industry makes a lot of money right or if they're industry has already been purchased through perhaps unethical means by the rulers of the country. Then they get to decide what they think is legal or illegal so that's why we have these legal cartels and then there's a greater good argument that comes out and sometimes it's a good faith argument but the the idea here is the idea of what these guys are doing. This group is legal. The government of canada has sanctioned this but not everybody agrees. Because there's very much who watches the watchmen situation anytime you talk about a cartel because you could ask people throughout mining operations run by de beers what they think of the cartel's activities and yes sometimes at being ethical and being legal or not always the same thing you know. Unfortunately it again like we were making these comparisons because it is the best. These are the best ways to actually make these connections and talk about these things but you know the mining operations in some of the horrors. They are very different from you know sugar makers tapping trees right. But also i mean there. That's the thing we we love the complexity of a topic like this. Because it's it's not apples to apples or maples to maples. There is in everyone of. And i'm only saying this to point out that a lot of sugar makers and from what i've seen in the stats in some of the stuff that was shown in that dirty money episode the producers in the sugar makers the vast majority of them are down with this cartel because it helps them individually. Make sure that they're able to sell their product at a good enough price to get loans right and to be able to make enough enough profit off of something that could be not profitable. Yeah it's not like these. It's not like these folks who are in this in this industry whether they are opposed to the cartel or whether they support it. It's not like they're billionaires. You know what i mean. They're they're like anybody else for the job. Trying to get by and in the opec example is interesting is if you were a member of opec you would see clear advantages especially when you were cognizant of the way that colonial powers absolately exploited anyplace with oil four as long as they. Could you know what i mean. So e is seeing as a protective defensive move which is why it is called protectionism. So this liked to to that point right now. This word is legal. It's a fantastic question. We'll get into the philosophy of the of the problem later. But from the perspective of the folks the many members and supporters of what is sometimes just called the federation for shorthand. This group is taking necessary actions to ensure that all important price stability because otherwise you're just out there independently. What if what if the weather does it work out. What if something terrible happens to the trees in your sugar brush which is what the collection and copes of trees being tapped is called c. Because they're all like sh- words with sugar in them so we can't just list them all well and ben also what if what if you produce too much right. What if you've got too much stuff and you don't have a buyer for all of this surplus produced radia syrup surplus could be as bad as a syrup shortage this this leads to that that quota system because the federation doesn't just dictate the price at which syrup has to be sold in quebec they also dictate how much you as a sugar maker can make each sugaring season so like if we did that with our gac cartel then we would be telling blake. Let's say we all agreed that we were going to sell. We were all only going to sell ten million tons of gag units. There we go. There's a little better. Yeah ten million units each of gac and then let's see mission. Control has a bumper year. His gac trees are doing awesome. And he's like i've made twenty million units gac and then we say well sorry rope that's over your quota so you cannot sell it as a matter of fact you have to give it to us. That's what happens in the maple syrup situation if you have a great year no matter who you are if you have a great year and you harvest more than the allow quota you cannot sell the excess syrup the way you would want to because it might end up driving down that price increases surplus instead. You have to ship it to you. Not something called the global strategic reserve of maple syrup yet again. The oil comparison holds the. Us has a global reserve of oil or strategic reserve. Now forgive me if i'm incorrect here. My understanding is that it's not them just handing it over like for free they would. They would get payment for not as donating but essentially giving their syrup to preserve. Yes yeah and the the key issue. There is the timing. So let's look at the other case. If there's a low production year the federation taps get it that reserve. And they release a controlled amount of syrup into late out into the world into circulation. Let's call it right. Yes they circulate this europe and some people love this setup because again like like matt saying earlier this makes it much much easier to predict how future years will play out which is huge hugely important. But other people had a problem with this other maple syrup producers Not just like outside observers with some economic policy ax to grind people. Say i've been making maple syrup my whole life. This maple syrup. Operation has been our family for generations. We want to take a cue from fleetwood. Mac and go our own way The federation wasn't really cool with this in two thousand in the early two thousand. You'll hear it called two thousand or two thousand four in the early two thousands. They did this thing where they created. An exclusive selling agency. Meaning that matter who you are. You're in quebec in your in the syrup game you. You can't sell like directly to a supermarket. You know what i mean. You can't make a deal with like a restaurant chain to just carry your your syrup. You have to sell it to the federation that agreed upon price and they will basically run the rest of the sales from there. So if you like this and you wanted to sell things yourself. You ended up putting syrup on an actual black-market. Wow so this is to say that any syrup in the syrup mile at your local grocery store chain whether it's the like twelve ninety nine a bottle seemingly small batch family operation kind of situation or whether it's your you know whatever the like i don't even know what the The the most mainstream syrup dejoras today. They're all going through this system. Otherwise now seventy percents right now if you were walking in a grocery store or any store selling maple syrup almost anywhere in the world in excess of seventy percent of. It is coming not just from canada but from this place which means like syrup black market unless there's like a black market supermarket. Some syrup comes from the united states. obviously i mean. That's the issue here. I see well and a lot of syrup. You will find for sale wherever you live is going to be corn syrup that scott some color in it and may have some maple flavoring and or maple syrup involved. But it's mostly core. But i can't say pure no no i can't say pure. And there is a premium on organic maple syrup but largely like these. This organization has the heft to swing around to get. Its way this is where stuff started clamping down and for people who are big free market. Proponents this is where it becomes a little bit of a horror story. Because all producers in the area all sugar makers in the area are required to sell their product directly to this organization whether or not they want to. So it's not. It's not quite the same thing as like a union. You can't opt in right. There is there is one exception. Which is you can sell small amounts of your syrup directly from your farm which are called love this sugar shacks cue to be the you can so you can sell your own stuff to people like happen by right and you can also if you want you can sell the supermarkets as long as you give the federation there are cut which is twelve percent off. The top is not as big of a as a google takes off youtube. Still twelve percent makes a big difference in people's lives as a matter of fact. Let's let's talk a little bit more about the money in this relationship. Because that's where that's where the problems with cartels usually come into play and that's usually where you see like the if not conspiracy and corruption. That's where you're going to see the conflict. Yes estimates right now. Our best estimate is that the federation the cartel takes the equivalent of eleven cents. Us off of every pound of syrup produced so. Let's just do the math here. One gallon of syrup contains eleven pounds so a dollar twenty one. us per gallon of syrup. Basically and interestingly. And i guess kinda rationally that money that the federation takes off according to them goes to the promotion of maple maple syrup thing. It is like bright. We're promoting the industry itself by having this this group over like deployed on top of it and also in research. How can we tap these trees better. And how can we store this maple for longer. And what scientifically proven advantages does maple syrup have over say something something others some other sweet substance that people might buy in a store like honey so this makes sense and if you are a sugar maker you also pay an administrative fee to this organization but again the people who are running this organization staffing at working for it. They're going to say look. We're making ends meet but please stop calling us. Stop calling us tycoons and stuff. Because we're just we're trying to do what's best for everybody. Thing is again the for their involvement weather consensual or nonconsensual. These producers are paid in installments. So like going back to our surplus your example you send in. You've exceeded your quota. How dare you be good at what you do right. How dare you be extraordinary. What you're doing then. You will be paid for the syrup that has to be shipped off to the strategic reserve. But you're paid on kind of a layaway plan. And this has led some unhappy syrup makers to say that. They've they've said they're waiting months or in some cases years for these payments to come in. And if you are paying other bills or cost associated with keeping the lights on etc etc then you can't really go to your utility company and say wait number money. I'll get to you next year. Fingers crossed knock maplewood and you can totally see why the black market feels like it may be a viable option for that individual like you said who needs to make payments to other people while they're waiting on the other. There's certainly are. You know critics of this system from on the proofs or side and one particularly vocal producer who is fighting against f. Pack fpu is an gel gronyea Who was kind of tired of the whole setup. She was sick of cartel pushing her around and decided to take on a direct sales model where she sold her syrup. Right to a distributor bypassing the efc entirely and the police got involved all of her stock that she had warehouse seized and she was slapped with a crippling. Five hundred thousand dollar fine very much. Seems like they're trying to make an example of her so. This is a restricted. Really see problems brewing and ben. I believe this is one of the primary interviewees on that dirty money episode. Yeah this this person who's very outspoken. 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"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

23:19 min | 10 months ago

"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"Like leave a period of rest in between tapping so that the sap can be replenished or is it a finite amount. I would imagine it's the former yet. Yeah you're correct is the it's the former. There's a finite amount of to be clear. No sugar maker is parasitic or vampiric. Here they're not draining. These trees dry. It's almost like for very crude analogy. It's almost like they're giving blood. Like process of donating. Blood is meant to leave the donor healthy so really responsible vampire. They can fairy lake an ethical kinda vampire. That shops at the vampire. Equivalent of a cooper whole foods co op wholefoods is no longer the best example but but part of the way they do this and keep these healthy is also by limiting the the amount of time per year when this when this tapping occurs it only takes place for about four to six weeks so think roughly a month and change deering something that is called the door of de sugar season which i think is also a good name for maybe not a ban but an album and this is still. We'll see there's a lot of limitation here and limitations placed on this process. People argue for the good of the tree but they're also at the whim of the weather. It's there's a ideal time to tap this tree tap into this tree and most of these. Tadpoles only give you about ten gallons of sap throughout that period. So four thinking. Back to the attrition that you would describe that means that we're talking for tap holes over a period of brown four to six weeks making forty gallons of sap making one gal maple syrup a ton whoa goes into this. Yeah a ton of work and not that much yield right and therein lies this entire episode. Yeah it's a fascinating process. We spend some time you know especially For those of you all familiar with our all school origins house of works. We would totally spend at our. He'd just exploring how cool this process is but for our purposes today fellow conspiracy realist. It's just important to know how much work goes into each one of those little bottles. The industry today is surprisingly big. There's a lot of. There's a lot of money and maple it turns out by twenty twenty three. This is going to be worth the maple syrup industry alone. It's going to be worth one point. Seven billion dollars. This story may be familiar to some of us listening today because there was a netflix documentary. That came out not too long ago. A great series called dirty money and in one episode in season. One dirty money. They discuss Maple syrup in a way. That's related to this. It turns out officially because of all the time dedicated to creating this. There is a premium price. But it's also only part of the reason there's a premium of price anyway right now when the statistics you'll hear thrown around is accurate but it changes a little bit year over year. A single barrel of maple syrup would be worth around one thousand eight hundred dollars. Eighteen hundred dollars which makes it currently more than twenty times the price of a barrel of oil which is right. Now as we record about seventy three seventy four bucks. That'll that'll change. But they're maple syrup has been more expensive than oil for a long long time. Yeah and it's really great comparison. Because ben isn't joking you're talking around it when he's saying a barrel of this substance d. A barrel of oil is the same as a the the same barrels basically that you can find maple in and and oil in and that also is very important to this story. Yeah yeah forty two gallons. That's how much a Forty two us gallons. That's the size of both of these kinds of barrels so this industry also gets further specialized because is very localized. Maples don't grow everywhere. Maple serves not made everywhere in fact. It's it's pretty much exclusively created in north america. The biggest manufacturer is vermont. That stereotype is true. Vermont is a very big a maple syrup industry at least in the us but that us behemoth is absolutely dwarfed by canada. That's where the real maple action goes down. The province of quebec specifically makes in excess of seventy percent of the world's entire supply of maple syrup and this is why outfits like the economists were investigative reporters carolyn jarvis who appears dirty. Money have called canada. The saudi arabia of maple syrup. It's not just the clever title. It's pretty accurate. It's all intermeshed with the oil industry. Love it yeah. Most people outside of these very specific regions that specialize in producing the stuff Or outside specific industries that are associated normally think about maple syrup Until back in two thousand twelve that is when there was a story that hit the press Where it had been discovered that someone had pulled a heist. Ben you you refer to it as an ocean's eleven level heist with your bag man and you're inside man and all your other doesn't have to be a man but you know in the parlance of heists and this crew If you will were involved in stealing thousands of tonnes Of the stuff and making off with around eighteen point seven million dollars canadian which is around fifteen million usd Worth of maple syrup. And if you were talking about this around the water cooler It might have at the time like tin for most people. i imagine. Strike you as a little bit funny Immediately when you hear somebody stole maple syrup. That's right because what do you do with all that. That's what do you not back in two thousand twelve. That was the immediate question. It's like one of those hikes where you know. I try notices too often air. But oh i've weird thing with dirigibles always joked about stealing blimp airship and the big the reason. That's so humorous is because the hell do you do it where yeah where are you going to put all that maple syrup how do you. How do you explain that. How do you adia launder naples. Syrup offense maple syrup. that's a good question ben. Among the end of the day How is it any different than any. Other valuable commodity. You know 'cause valuable it absolutely is as you mentioned earlier it costs upwards of a under two grand a barrel whereas oil i think is only around seventy five seventy six bucks so i mean absolutely sticky brown is what the stuff is but You know chuckles aside. When the story came through there really is absolutely dark. presumably somewhat sticky underbelly to the world of maple syrup because the story didn't just end up exposing these criminals who did get caught and convicted ultimately expose something else something much deeper and arguably more sinister A multigenerational cartel like operation that spanned decades. You see the economist. And jarvis didn't just say. The canada was the saudi arabia of maple syrup. They went a little further and they said this situation also has an opec yup dares a conspiracy afoot in the land of pancakes waffles. Folks just like the stories diamonds or the early days of light bulbs turns out. Maple syrup is run by a cartel. What are we talking about. We'll tell you after word from our sponsor week one may be over but the season's just getting started at draft king sportsbook in officials sports betting partner of the nfl to kick off week to draft. Kings is giving new customers two hundred dollars in free bets instantly when they one dollar on any football game. Listen up because you don't want to miss this head to the draft king sportsbook app now and place a bet of one dollar on any week. 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Football is back and the best bet you can make is downloading the fan duel sportsbook app. It doesn't matter if you're new to gambling or an old pro fan duel has something for everyone and as an official sports betting partner of the nfl. You know your pets are safe. There's also never been a better time to use fan duel because right. Now get up to one thousand dollars back. If you're i bet doesn't win. You can even turn a small wager into a big payday with the same game parlay bet. Just sign up with the promo code spotify to place your i bet risk-free on fan duel sportsbook download duel today twenty one plus and present in. Virginia i online real money wager. Only refund issued as non-withdrawal site credit. That expires in fourteen days. Restrictions apply see terms at sportsbook dot fan duel dot com gambling problem. Call one eight hundred gambler. Here's where it gets crazy so Let's let's talk just a second about opec. Aright opec is the organization of petroleum exporting countries. You have if you've depending on the kind of news you've read over the years or decades. You've probably heard opec being brought up various times in in the west and that's because opec cat it makes for a very convenient boogeyman especially when you get toil wars and fossil fuel prices because opec is what is known as a cartel usually will we hear the word cartel we associated with drugs cocaine. You know what i mean like. This is This is because we often hear the terms together. We don't hear things like banking cartel right and and even the diamond cartel is very much real. You like nine times out of ten when you hear the word cartel described in the news. It's going to be referring to drugs but what had actually defines is just this. Let's say that. Matt knoll mission control. And i all make out. What's something fund that we make some specific line facific slime for kids. We make we make like that. That kind of let's say it's like a branded k. It's a very specific kind of slide with like nickelodeon gak there. We go so we make we make gac and what we are the four largest manufacturers of gac and we were coming called gacaca. Your company's called gac. It is called matt gak well anyway i. We got lots of room to play with this. We are the four largest manufacturers of gac and we say hey why are we. Are we fighting with each other. You know what i mean. Why why why are we all living within. Like dogs and poppers for a measly twenty five percent of a small piece of pie. We could get together. We can make the pie bigger and we could all profit off and what we would do then. Is we be a group of suppliers or manufacturers and we would conspire with each other literally. Say okay the price of gac no matter what is always going to be arrested development reference is always going to be like what could it cost ten dollars you know. That's that's what we'll do. We'll do it the way they did bananas and then we would say in addition to that four of us are also going to cooperate whether through a transparent legal means or through unethical illegal means to keep all those other dirty competitors out of the game. You know there's there's a they're a bunch of independent producers jack and we are going to destroy them so free market. A cartel is not. Yoda would say a really great example of this isn't a show that i've been watching recently the wire Where there is a group of rival drug dealers who are constantly at each other's throats and warring and dropping bodies in the streets and then They inevitably eventually get together pool. Their resources use their influence to get the best product and then share real estate And then they also use that to vanquish any other competition or if there is competition that's worth bringing into this collusion are cartel type situation. They do that and just absorb them but ultimately is about limiting competition and about kind of the rising tide carrying vessels but also not having any outsiders yet in price-fixing in i think just one minor thing we're missing with the gac version. We're talking about here. is that with most cartels. there's either a natural resource or a resource that is limited. there's limited access to write is all organic exactly making excellent point in the in the gac example you would just it would be more about the things needed to create the gac right so in this in naples. The reason why it's important or like almost like almost needed to have a cartel like this. And i know as a little controversial. We'll get into it. But because there is a limited amount of the stuff in circulation at any given time in controlling that the supply becomes vital to the industry right right it becomes monopolistic and the world of dune by frank. Herbert has an excellent example. Of this. With the spice. This is not based on some sort of made up thing now. The the cartel in question is called the federation of quebec maple syrup producers but the the real name is in french because it's coie it's usually referred to by the acronym fda q this story of the organizations interesting dates back to the nineteen fifties. These guys have been active for a while so over in southern quebec. A group of remember the name sugar makers We're having a hard time because this is this is hard work just like farming. These folks are often the whims of the weather. They don't know what may or may not affect the trees and sometimes it's like active god level disasters so they said look. We can no longer be at the whims of a market. We have to be able to guarantee our survival rival our kids and our businesses. So we're going to get together and we're going to voltron up. We'll collectively market our able syrup. The starts in one thousand nine fifty eight the idea catches on it. Leads to the formation of a larger group ultimately across the entirety of quebec and since nineteen eighty nine all the they're typically called producers all the sugar makers in this f p q have worked together as a cartel. They've set prices and they've also done something else. They've set production quotas. That's the big problem that the us historically had with opec. They we get mad at opec. And i had an old professor years ago. Who said was very nice person but they said opec exists to stop the flow of oil and make it expensive. And i thought it was a little hot take because it didn't seem like a good idea as a business model but it turns out. It's a great ideas business model in some cases especially if you want to enrich a small number of families that own all the oil in the middle east yes or or tycoons like us out so so this is this is again. It's similar to opec it similar to two beers which is the infamous diamond cartel or similar to the feebis cartel. Which is the group that back in the day. Purposefully made light bulbs crappier. Yeah and also just hey. Don't sleep on the diamond. The beers diamond thing that we i think we just put out the classic episode on diamonds on the laura Question i knew the answer. But just hypothetically speaking a cartel isn't inherently illegal. I mean there certainly are illegal. Cartels that traffic in illegal goods but to me the whole purpose of cartel is to limit competition and essentially. Create a monopoly. So is it just kind of like a loophole that allows for a legal monopoly of some sort. And why aren't these challenged. More often by regulators want agree question. Yes the answer is. We'll find verges on the philosophical points but Without sounding too cynical. What i would say that i welcome disagreements with this what i would say. Is that the issue of legality ultimately becomes just an issue of who controls the mechanisms of the state. That's why different countries have different laws. Like if you so so like somebody may consider the activities of a cartel domestically or internationally illegal but if that cartel is powerful enough if they have enough access enough what you would call juice in the wire or suction in the wires. Cited industry makes a lot of money right or if they're industry has already been purchased through perhaps unethical means by the rulers of the country. Then they get to decide what they think is legal or illegal so that's why we have these legal cartels and then there's a greater good argument that comes out and sometimes it's a good faith argument but the the idea here is the idea of what these guys are doing. This group is legal. The government of canada has sanctioned this but not everybody agrees. Because there's very much who watches the watchmen situation anytime you talk about a cartel because you could ask people throughout mining operations run by de beers what they think of the cartel's activities and yes sometimes at being ethical and being legal or not always the same thing you know. Unfortunately it again like we were making these comparisons because it is the best. These are the best ways to actually make these connections and talk about these things but you know the mining operations in some of the horrors. They are very different from you know sugar makers tapping trees right. But also i mean there. That's the thing we we love the complexity of a topic like this. Because it's it's not apples to apples or maples to maples. There is in everyone of. And i'm only saying this to point out that a lot of sugar makers and from what i've seen in the stats in some of the stuff that was shown in that dirty money episode the producers in the sugar makers the vast majority of them are down with this cartel because it helps them individually. Make sure that they're able to sell their product at a good enough price to get loans right and to be able to make enough enough profit off of something that could be not profitable. Yeah it's.

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"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

22:40 min | 10 months ago

"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"The vampire. Equivalent of a cooper whole foods co op wholefoods is no longer the best example but but part of the way they do this and keep these healthy is also by limiting the the amount of time per year when this when this tapping occurs it only takes place for about four to six weeks so think roughly a month and change deering something that is called the door of de sugar season which i think is also a good name for maybe not a ban but an album and this is still. We'll see there's a lot of limitation here and limitations placed on this process. People argue for the good of the tree but they're also at the whim of the weather. It's there's a ideal time to tap this tree tap into this tree and most of these. Tadpoles only give you about ten gallons of sap throughout that period. So four thinking. Back to the attrition that you would describe that means that we're talking for tap holes over a period of brown four to six weeks making forty gallons of sap making one gal maple syrup a ton whoa goes into this. Yeah a ton of work and not that much yield right and therein lies this entire episode. Yeah it's a fascinating process. We spend some time you know especially For those of you all familiar with our all school origins house of works. We would totally spend at our. He'd just exploring how cool this process is but for our purposes today fellow conspiracy realist. It's just important to know how much work goes into each one of those little bottles. The industry today is surprisingly big. There's a lot of. There's a lot of money and maple it turns out by twenty twenty three. This is going to be worth the maple syrup industry alone. It's going to be worth one point. Seven billion dollars. This story may be familiar to some of us listening today because there was a netflix documentary. That came out not too long ago. A great series called dirty money and in one episode in season. One dirty money. They discuss Maple syrup in a way. That's related to this. It turns out officially because of all the time dedicated to creating this. There is a premium price. But it's also only part of the reason there's a premium of price anyway right now when the statistics you'll hear thrown around is accurate but it changes a little bit year over year. A single barrel of maple syrup would be worth around one thousand eight hundred dollars. Eighteen hundred dollars which makes it currently more than twenty times the price of a barrel of oil which is right. Now as we record about seventy three seventy four bucks. That'll that'll change. But they're maple syrup has been more expensive than oil for a long long time. Yeah and it's really great comparison. Because ben isn't joking you're talking around it when he's saying a barrel of this substance d. A barrel of oil is the same as a the the same barrels basically that you can find maple in and and oil in and that also is very important to this story. Yeah yeah forty two gallons. That's how much a Forty two us gallons. That's the size of both of these kinds of barrels so this industry also gets further specialized because is very localized. Maples don't grow everywhere. Maple serves not made everywhere in fact. It's it's pretty much exclusively created in north america. The biggest manufacturer is vermont. That stereotype is true. Vermont is a very big a maple syrup industry at least in the us but that us behemoth is absolutely dwarfed by canada. That's where the real maple action goes down. The province of quebec specifically makes in excess of seventy percent of the world's entire supply of maple syrup and this is why outfits like the economists were investigative reporters carolyn jarvis who appears dirty. Money have called canada. The saudi arabia of maple syrup. It's not just the clever title. It's pretty accurate. It's all intermeshed with the oil industry. Love it yeah. Most people outside of these very specific regions that specialize in producing the stuff Or outside specific industries that are associated normally think about maple syrup Until back in two thousand twelve that is when there was a story that hit the press Where it had been discovered that someone had pulled a heist. Ben you you refer to it as an ocean's eleven level heist with your bag man and you're inside man and all your other doesn't have to be a man but you know in the parlance of heists and this crew If you will were involved in stealing thousands of tonnes Of the stuff and making off with around eighteen point seven million dollars canadian which is around fifteen million usd Worth of maple syrup. And if you were talking about this around the water cooler It might have at the time like tin for most people. i imagine. Strike you as a little bit funny Immediately when you hear somebody stole maple syrup. That's right because what do you do with all that. That's what do you not back in two thousand twelve. That was the immediate question. It's like one of those hikes where you know. I try notices too often air. But oh i've weird thing with dirigibles always joked about stealing blimp airship and the big the reason. That's so humorous is because the hell do you do it where yeah where are you going to put all that maple syrup how do you. How do you explain that. How do you adia launder naples. Syrup offense maple syrup. that's a good question ben. Among the end of the day How is it any different than any. Other valuable commodity. You know 'cause valuable it absolutely is as you mentioned earlier it costs upwards of a under two grand a barrel whereas oil i think is only around seventy five seventy six bucks so i mean absolutely sticky brown is what the stuff is but You know chuckles aside. When the story came through there really is absolutely dark. presumably somewhat sticky underbelly to the world of maple syrup because the story didn't just end up exposing these criminals who did get caught and convicted ultimately expose something else something much deeper and arguably more sinister A multigenerational cartel like operation that spanned decades. You see the economist. And jarvis didn't just say. The canada was the saudi arabia of maple syrup. They went a little further and they said this situation also has an opec yup dares a conspiracy afoot in the land of pancakes waffles. Folks just like the stories diamonds or the early days of light bulbs turns out. Maple syrup is run by a cartel. What are we talking about. We'll tell you after word from our sponsor week one may be over but the season's just getting started at draft king sportsbook in officials sports betting partner of the nfl to kick off week to draft. Kings is giving new customers two hundred dollars in free bets instantly when they one dollar on any football game. Listen up because you don't want to miss this head to the draft king sportsbook app now and place a bet of one dollar on any week. Two game to receive two hundred dollars in free bets instantly if sportsbook is not yet available in your state draft king still has huge cash prizes up for grabs all season long with their daily contests draft kings giving all new customers a free shot at millions of dollars in total prizes with their first deposit. Download the draft kings sportsbook now and use promo code k one to receive two hundred dollars in free bets. When you place a one dollar bet on any football game that's promo code decay one this week. Draft king sportsbook in officials sports betting partner of the nfl must be twenty one or older new jersey indiana or pennsylvania only new customers only minimum five dollar deposit in one dollar wager required one per customer restrictions. Apply see draftkings dot com slash sportsbook for details gambling problem. Call one eight hundred gambler or an indiana one. Eight hundred nine with it. It's good to see the teams back out on the grid. Iron lucky for us. that was just week. One draft kings the official daily fantasy partner of the. Nfl is putting you in the center of the action for week. Two new customers can get a free shot at millions of dollars in total prizes with their first deposit by signing up using code target. Get in on the action now. It's simple just pick your lineup. Stay under the salary cap and see how your team stacks up against the competition. Feel the nfl action like never before with a free shot at millions of dollars in total prizes. Download the draft kings app now and use code target this week. New customers can get a free shot at millions of dollars. Total prizes enter code target to get a free shot at millions in total prizes with your first deposit. That's code target only at draft kings the official daily fantasy partner of the nfl minimum five dollar deposit required eligibility restrictions. Apply see draft kings dot com for details. This episode is brought to you by federal. Football is back and the best bet you can make is downloading the fan duel sportsbook app. It doesn't matter if you're new to gambling or an old pro fan duel has something for everyone and as an official sports betting partner of the nfl. You know your pets are safe. There's also never been a better time to use fan duel because right. Now get up to one thousand dollars back. If you're i bet doesn't win. You can even turn a small wager into a big payday with the same game parlay bet. Just sign up with the promo code spotify to place your i bet risk-free on fan duel sportsbook download duel today twenty one plus and present in. Virginia i online real money wager. Only refund issued as non-withdrawal site credit. That expires in fourteen days. Restrictions apply see terms at sportsbook dot fan duel dot com gambling problem. Call one eight hundred gambler. Here's where it gets crazy so Let's let's talk just a second about opec. Aright opec is the organization of petroleum exporting countries. You have if you've depending on the kind of news you've read over the years or decades. You've probably heard opec being brought up various times in in the west and that's because opec cat it makes for a very convenient boogeyman especially when you get toil wars and fossil fuel prices because opec is what is known as a cartel usually will we hear the word cartel we associated with drugs cocaine. You know what i mean like. This is This is because we often hear the terms together. We don't hear things like banking cartel right and and even the diamond cartel is very much real. You like nine times out of ten when you hear the word cartel described in the news. It's going to be referring to drugs but what had actually defines is just this. Let's say that. Matt knoll mission control. And i all make out. What's something fund that we make some specific line facific slime for kids. We make we make like that. That kind of let's say it's like a branded k. It's a very specific kind of slide with like nickelodeon gak there. We go so we make we make gac and what we are the four largest manufacturers of gac and we were coming called gacaca. Your company's called gac. It is called matt gak well anyway i. We got lots of room to play with this. We are the four largest manufacturers of gac and we say hey why are we. Are we fighting with each other. You know what i mean. Why why why are we all living within. Like dogs and poppers for a measly twenty five percent of a small piece of pie. We could get together. We can make the pie bigger and we could all profit off and what we would do then. Is we be a group of suppliers or manufacturers and we would conspire with each other literally. Say okay the price of gac no matter what is always going to be arrested development reference is always going to be like what could it cost ten dollars you know. That's that's what we'll do. We'll do it the way they did bananas and then we would say in addition to that four of us are also going to cooperate whether through a transparent legal means or through unethical illegal means to keep all those other dirty competitors out of the game. You know there's there's a they're a bunch of independent producers jack and we are going to destroy them so free market. A cartel is not. Yoda would say a really great example of this isn't a show that i've been watching recently the wire Where there is a group of rival drug dealers who are constantly at each other's throats and warring and dropping bodies in the streets and then They inevitably eventually get together pool. Their resources use their influence to get the best product and then share real estate And then they also use that to vanquish any other competition or if there is competition that's worth bringing into this collusion are cartel type situation. They do that and just absorb them but ultimately is about limiting competition and about kind of the rising tide carrying vessels but also not having any outsiders yet in price-fixing in i think just one minor thing we're missing with the gac version. We're talking about here. is that with most cartels. there's either a natural resource or a resource that is limited. there's limited access to write is all organic exactly making excellent point in the in the gac example you would just it would be more about the things needed to create the gac right so in this in naples. The reason why it's important or like almost like almost needed to have a cartel like this. And i know as a little controversial. We'll get into it. But because there is a limited amount of the stuff in circulation at any given time in controlling that the supply becomes vital to the industry right right it becomes monopolistic and the world of dune by frank. Herbert has an excellent example. Of this. With the spice. This is not based on some sort of made up thing now. The the cartel in question is called the federation of quebec maple syrup producers but the the real name is in french because it's coie it's usually referred to by the acronym fda q this story of the organizations interesting dates back to the nineteen fifties. These guys have been active for a while so over in southern quebec. A group of remember the name sugar makers We're having a hard time because this is this is hard work just like farming. These folks are often the whims of the weather. They don't know what may or may not affect the trees and sometimes it's like active god level disasters so they said look. We can no longer be at the whims of a market. We have to be able to guarantee our survival rival our kids and our businesses. So we're going to get together and we're going to voltron up. We'll collectively market our able syrup. The starts in one thousand nine fifty eight the idea catches on it. Leads to the formation of a larger group ultimately across the entirety of quebec and since nineteen eighty nine all the they're typically called producers all the sugar makers in this f p q have worked together as a cartel. They've set prices and they've also done something else. They've set production quotas. That's the big problem that the us historically had with opec. They we get mad at opec. And i had an old professor years ago. Who said was very nice person but they said opec exists to stop the flow of oil and make it expensive. And i thought it was a little hot take because it didn't seem like a good idea as a business model but it turns out. It's a great ideas business model in some cases especially if you want to enrich a small number of families that own all the oil in the middle east yes or or tycoons like us out so so this is this is again. It's similar to opec it similar to two beers which is the infamous diamond cartel or similar to the feebis cartel. Which is the group that back in the day. Purposefully made light bulbs crappier. Yeah and also just hey. Don't sleep on the diamond. The beers diamond thing that we i think we just put out the classic episode on diamonds on the laura Question i knew the answer. But just hypothetically speaking a cartel isn't inherently illegal. I mean there certainly are illegal. Cartels that traffic in illegal goods but to me the whole purpose of cartel is to limit competition and essentially. Create a monopoly. So is it just kind of like a loophole that allows for a legal monopoly of some sort. And why aren't these challenged. More often by regulators want agree question. Yes the answer is. We'll find verges on the philosophical points but Without sounding too cynical. What i would say that i welcome disagreements with this what i would say. Is that the issue of legality ultimately becomes just an issue of who controls the mechanisms of the state. That's why different countries have different laws. Like if you so so like somebody may consider the activities of a cartel domestically or internationally illegal but if that cartel is powerful enough if they have enough access enough what you would call juice in the wire or suction in the wires. Cited industry makes a lot of money right or if they're industry has already been purchased through perhaps unethical means by the rulers of the country. Then they get to decide what they think is legal or illegal so that's why we have these legal cartels and then there's a greater good argument that comes out and sometimes it's a good faith argument but the the idea here is the idea of what these guys are doing. This group is legal. The government of canada has sanctioned this but not everybody agrees. Because there's very much who watches the watchmen situation anytime you talk about a cartel because you could ask people throughout mining operations run by de beers what they think of the cartel's activities and yes sometimes at being ethical and being legal or not always the same thing you know. Unfortunately it again like we were making these comparisons because it is the best. These are the best ways to actually make these connections and talk about these things but you know the mining operations in some of the horrors. They are very different from you know sugar makers tapping trees right. But also i mean there. That's the thing we we love the complexity of a topic like this. Because it's it's not apples to apples or maples to maples. There is in everyone of. And i'm only saying this to point out that a lot of sugar makers and from what i've seen in the stats in some of the stuff that was shown in that dirty money episode the producers in the sugar makers the vast majority of them are down with this cartel because it helps them individually. Make sure that they're able to sell their product at a good enough price to get loans right and to be able to make enough enough profit off of something that could be not profitable. Yeah it's.

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"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

07:48 min | 10 months ago

"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"Here's where it gets crazy so Let's let's talk just a second about opec. Aright opec is the organization of petroleum exporting countries. You have if you've depending on the kind of news you've read over the years or decades. You've probably heard opec being brought up various times in in the west and that's because opec cat it makes for a very convenient boogeyman especially when you get toil wars and fossil fuel prices because opec is what is known as a cartel usually will we hear the word cartel we associated with drugs cocaine. You know what i mean like. This is This is because we often hear the terms together. We don't hear things like banking cartel right and and even the diamond cartel is very much real. You like nine times out of ten when you hear the word cartel described in the news. It's going to be referring to drugs but what had actually defines is just this. Let's say that. Matt knoll mission control. And i all make out. What's something fund that we make some specific line facific slime for kids. We make we make like that. That kind of let's say it's like a branded k. It's a very specific kind of slide with like nickelodeon gak there. We go so we make we make gac and what we are the four largest manufacturers of gac and we were coming called gacaca. Your company's called gac. It is called matt gak well anyway i. We got lots of room to play with this. We are the four largest manufacturers of gac and we say hey why are we. Are we fighting with each other. You know what i mean. Why why why are we all living within. Like dogs and poppers for a measly twenty five percent of a small piece of pie. We could get together. We can make the pie bigger and we could all profit off and what we would do then. Is we be a group of suppliers or manufacturers and we would conspire with each other literally. Say okay the price of gac no matter what is always going to be arrested development reference is always going to be like what could it cost ten dollars you know. That's that's what we'll do. We'll do it the way they did bananas and then we would say in addition to that four of us are also going to cooperate whether through a transparent legal means or through unethical illegal means to keep all those other dirty competitors out of the game. You know there's there's a they're a bunch of independent producers jack and we are going to destroy them so free market. A cartel is not. Yoda would say a really great example of this isn't a show that i've been watching recently the wire Where there is a group of rival drug dealers who are constantly at each other's throats and warring and dropping bodies in the streets and then They inevitably eventually get together pool. Their resources use their influence to get the best product and then share real estate And then they also use that to vanquish any other competition or if there is competition that's worth bringing into this collusion are cartel type situation. They do that and just absorb them but ultimately is about limiting competition and about kind of the rising tide carrying vessels but also not having any outsiders yet in price-fixing in i think just one minor thing we're missing with the gac version. We're talking about here. is that with most cartels. there's either a natural resource or a resource that is limited. there's limited access to write is all organic exactly making excellent point in the in the gac example you would just it would be more about the things needed to create the gac right so in this in naples. The reason why it's important or like almost like almost needed to have a cartel like this. And i know as a little controversial. We'll get into it. But because there is a limited amount of the stuff in circulation at any given time in controlling that the supply becomes vital to the industry right right it becomes monopolistic and the world of dune by frank. Herbert has an excellent example. Of this. With the spice. This is not based on some sort of made up thing now. The the cartel in question is called the federation of quebec maple syrup producers but the the real name is in french because it's coie it's usually referred to by the acronym fda q this story of the organizations interesting dates back to the nineteen fifties. These guys have been active for a while so over in southern quebec. A group of remember the name sugar makers We're having a hard time because this is this is hard work just like farming. These folks are often the whims of the weather. They don't know what may or may not affect the trees and sometimes it's like active god level disasters so they said look. We can no longer be at the whims of a market. We have to be able to guarantee our survival rival our kids and our businesses. So we're going to get together and we're going to voltron up. We'll collectively market our able syrup. The starts in one thousand nine fifty eight the idea catches on it. Leads to the formation of a larger group ultimately across the entirety of quebec and since nineteen eighty nine all the they're typically called producers all the sugar makers in this f p q have worked together as a cartel. They've set prices and they've also done something else. They've set production quotas. That's the big problem that the us historically had with opec. They we get mad at opec. And i had an old professor years ago. Who said was very nice person but they said opec exists to stop the flow of oil and make it expensive. And i thought it was a little hot take because it didn't seem like a good idea as a business model but it turns out. It's a great ideas business model in some cases especially if you want to enrich a small number of families that own all the oil in the middle east yes or or tycoons like us out so so this is this is again. It's similar to opec it similar to two beers which is the infamous diamond cartel or similar to the feebis cartel. Which is the group that back in the day. Purposefully made light bulbs crappier. Yeah and also just hey. Don't sleep on the diamond. The beers diamond thing that we i think we just put out the classic episode on diamonds on the laura.

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"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

13:24 min | 10 months ago

"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"Tubing and everything just that if you mess up and you tap the tree wrong were in the wrong place or too many times and you lose that. Imagine you're losing forty years minimum of effort to get that tree to where it needs to be to even be topical. So that's why that's why it is such there's so much of an art to it in and a science to making it work sweetie song is actually about tapping i was gonna ask. I is it because it replenishes itself over time lead you have to give like leave a period of rest in between tapping so that the sap can be replenished or is it a finite amount. I would imagine it's the former yet. Yeah you're correct is the it's the former. There's a finite amount of to be clear. No sugar maker is parasitic or vampiric. Here they're not draining. These trees dry. It's almost like for very crude analogy. It's almost like they're giving blood. Like process of donating. Blood is meant to leave the donor healthy so really responsible vampire. They can fairy lake an ethical kinda vampire. That shops at the vampire. Equivalent of a cooper whole foods co op wholefoods is no longer the best example but but part of the way they do this and keep these healthy is also by limiting the the amount of time per year when this when this tapping occurs it only takes place for about four to six weeks so think roughly a month and change deering something that is called the door of de sugar season which i think is also a good name for maybe not a ban but an album and this is still. We'll see there's a lot of limitation here and limitations placed on this process. People argue for the good of the tree but they're also at the whim of the weather. It's there's a ideal time to tap this tree tap into this tree and most of these. Tadpoles only give you about ten gallons of sap throughout that period. So four thinking. Back to the attrition that you would describe that means that we're talking for tap holes over a period of brown four to six weeks making forty gallons of sap making one gal maple syrup a ton whoa goes into this. Yeah a ton of work and not that much yield right and therein lies this entire episode. Yeah it's a fascinating process. We spend some time you know especially For those of you all familiar with our all school origins house of works. We would totally spend at our. He'd just exploring how cool this process is but for our purposes today fellow conspiracy realist. It's just important to know how much work goes into each one of those little bottles. The industry today is surprisingly big. There's a lot of. There's a lot of money and maple it turns out by twenty twenty three. This is going to be worth the maple syrup industry alone. It's going to be worth one point. Seven billion dollars. This story may be familiar to some of us listening today because there was a netflix documentary. That came out not too long ago. A great series called dirty money and in one episode in season. One dirty money. They discuss Maple syrup in a way. That's related to this. It turns out officially because of all the time dedicated to creating this. There is a premium price. But it's also only part of the reason there's a premium of price anyway right now when the statistics you'll hear thrown around is accurate but it changes a little bit year over year. A single barrel of maple syrup would be worth around one thousand eight hundred dollars. Eighteen hundred dollars which makes it currently more than twenty times the price of a barrel of oil which is right. Now as we record about seventy three seventy four bucks. That'll that'll change. But they're maple syrup has been more expensive than oil for a long long time. Yeah and it's really great comparison. Because ben isn't joking you're talking around it when he's saying a barrel of this substance d. A barrel of oil is the same as a the the same barrels basically that you can find maple in and and oil in and that also is very important to this story. Yeah yeah forty two gallons. That's how much a Forty two us gallons. That's the size of both of these kinds of barrels so this industry also gets further specialized because is very localized. Maples don't grow everywhere. Maple serves not made everywhere in fact. It's it's pretty much exclusively created in north america. The biggest manufacturer is vermont. That stereotype is true. Vermont is a very big a maple syrup industry at least in the us but that us behemoth is absolutely dwarfed by canada. That's where the real maple action goes down. The province of quebec specifically makes in excess of seventy percent of the world's entire supply of maple syrup and this is why outfits like the economists were investigative reporters carolyn jarvis who appears dirty. Money have called canada. The saudi arabia of maple syrup. It's not just the clever title. It's pretty accurate. It's all intermeshed with the oil industry. Love it yeah. Most people outside of these very specific regions that specialize in producing the stuff Or outside specific industries that are associated normally think about maple syrup Until back in two thousand twelve that is when there was a story that hit the press Where it had been discovered that someone had pulled a heist. Ben you you refer to it as an ocean's eleven level heist with your bag man and you're inside man and all your other doesn't have to be a man but you know in the parlance of heists and this crew If you will were involved in stealing thousands of tonnes Of the stuff and making off with around eighteen point seven million dollars canadian which is around fifteen million usd Worth of maple syrup. And if you were talking about this around the water cooler It might have at the time like tin for most people. i imagine. Strike you as a little bit funny Immediately when you hear somebody stole maple syrup. That's right because what do you do with all that. That's what do you not back in two thousand twelve. That was the immediate question. It's like one of those hikes where you know. I try notices too often air. But oh i've weird thing with dirigibles always joked about stealing blimp airship and the big the reason. That's so humorous is because the hell do you do it where yeah where are you going to put all that maple syrup how do you. How do you explain that. How do you adia launder naples. Syrup offense maple syrup. that's a good question ben. Among the end of the day How is it any different than any. Other valuable commodity. You know 'cause valuable it absolutely is as you mentioned earlier it costs upwards of a under two grand a barrel whereas oil i think is only around seventy five seventy six bucks so i mean absolutely sticky brown is what the stuff is but You know chuckles aside. When the story came through there really is absolutely dark. presumably somewhat sticky underbelly to the world of maple syrup because the story didn't just end up exposing these criminals who did get caught and convicted ultimately expose something else something much deeper and arguably more sinister A multigenerational cartel like operation that spanned decades. You see the economist. And jarvis didn't just say. The canada was the saudi arabia of maple syrup. They went a little further and they said this situation also has an opec yup dares a conspiracy afoot in the land of pancakes waffles. Folks just like the stories diamonds or the early days of light bulbs turns out. Maple syrup is run by a cartel. What are we talking about. We'll tell you after word from our sponsor week one may be over but the season's just getting started at draft king sportsbook in officials sports betting partner of the nfl to kick off week to draft. Kings is giving new customers two hundred dollars in free bets instantly when they one dollar on any football game. Listen up because you don't want to miss this head to the draft king sportsbook app now and place a bet of one dollar on any week. 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Aright opec is the organization of petroleum exporting countries. You have if you've depending on the kind of news you've read over the years or decades. You've probably heard opec being brought up various times in in the west and that's because opec cat it makes for a very convenient boogeyman especially when you get toil wars and fossil fuel prices because opec is what is known as a cartel usually will we hear the word cartel we associated with drugs cocaine..

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"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

13:32 min | 10 months ago

"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"Wooden tube. Let's say that would come out like a spout almost or did just kind of goes down in his angled down. And then you'd hang a bucket onto that wouldn't peace or at least you'd get a bucket very close to where that wooden pieces. It's actually tapping the tree that bucket would fill up. And then you take the bucket over dump it into wherever you collect and then like sometimes like a big pan and exactly you would boil you. Boil the sap down near reducing it to something something thicker plastic change. This operation made much more efficient. It's funny it almost reminds me of those old I believe tropicana orange juice ads. Where it was just like a straw shoved into the orange. The implication being that it's like it comes you know it's the freshest you can get without sucking it straight from the orange but it's about that low tech even in the modern day i mean you're literally shoving thing into the tree that is then pulling the draining the sap out into some receptacle but yeah and ben made a really really great point just before we got into the tubing and everything just that if you mess up and you tap the tree wrong were in the wrong place or too many times and you lose that. Imagine you're losing forty years minimum of effort to get that tree to where it needs to be to even be topical. So that's why that's why it is such there's so much of an art to it in and a science to making it work sweetie song is actually about tapping i was gonna ask. I is it because it replenishes itself over time lead you have to give like leave a period of rest in between tapping so that the sap can be replenished or is it a finite amount. I would imagine it's the former yet. Yeah you're correct is the it's the former. There's a finite amount of to be clear. No sugar maker is parasitic or vampiric. Here they're not draining. These trees dry. It's almost like for very crude analogy. It's almost like they're giving blood. Like process of donating. Blood is meant to leave the donor healthy so really responsible vampire. They can fairy lake an ethical kinda vampire. That shops at the vampire. Equivalent of a cooper whole foods co op wholefoods is no longer the best example but but part of the way they do this and keep these healthy is also by limiting the the amount of time per year when this when this tapping occurs it only takes place for about four to six weeks so think roughly a month and change deering something that is called the door of de sugar season which i think is also a good name for maybe not a ban but an album and this is still. We'll see there's a lot of limitation here and limitations placed on this process. People argue for the good of the tree but they're also at the whim of the weather. It's there's a ideal time to tap this tree tap into this tree and most of these. Tadpoles only give you about ten gallons of sap throughout that period. So four thinking. Back to the attrition that you would describe that means that we're talking for tap holes over a period of brown four to six weeks making forty gallons of sap making one gal maple syrup a ton whoa goes into this. Yeah a ton of work and not that much yield right and therein lies this entire episode. Yeah it's a fascinating process. We spend some time you know especially For those of you all familiar with our all school origins house of works. We would totally spend at our. He'd just exploring how cool this process is but for our purposes today fellow conspiracy realist. It's just important to know how much work goes into each one of those little bottles. The industry today is surprisingly big. There's a lot of. There's a lot of money and maple it turns out by twenty twenty three. This is going to be worth the maple syrup industry alone. It's going to be worth one point. Seven billion dollars. This story may be familiar to some of us listening today because there was a netflix documentary. That came out not too long ago. A great series called dirty money and in one episode in season. One dirty money. They discuss Maple syrup in a way. That's related to this. It turns out officially because of all the time dedicated to creating this. There is a premium price. But it's also only part of the reason there's a premium of price anyway right now when the statistics you'll hear thrown around is accurate but it changes a little bit year over year. A single barrel of maple syrup would be worth around one thousand eight hundred dollars. Eighteen hundred dollars which makes it currently more than twenty times the price of a barrel of oil which is right. Now as we record about seventy three seventy four bucks. That'll that'll change. But they're maple syrup has been more expensive than oil for a long long time. Yeah and it's really great comparison. Because ben isn't joking you're talking around it when he's saying a barrel of this substance d. A barrel of oil is the same as a the the same barrels basically that you can find maple in and and oil in and that also is very important to this story. Yeah yeah forty two gallons. That's how much a Forty two us gallons. That's the size of both of these kinds of barrels so this industry also gets further specialized because is very localized. Maples don't grow everywhere. Maple serves not made everywhere in fact. It's it's pretty much exclusively created in north america. The biggest manufacturer is vermont. That stereotype is true. Vermont is a very big a maple syrup industry at least in the us but that us behemoth is absolutely dwarfed by canada. That's where the real maple action goes down. The province of quebec specifically makes in excess of seventy percent of the world's entire supply of maple syrup and this is why outfits like the economists were investigative reporters carolyn jarvis who appears dirty. Money have called canada. The saudi arabia of maple syrup. It's not just the clever title. It's pretty accurate. It's all intermeshed with the oil industry. Love it yeah. Most people outside of these very specific regions that specialize in producing the stuff Or outside specific industries that are associated normally think about maple syrup Until back in two thousand twelve that is when there was a story that hit the press Where it had been discovered that someone had pulled a heist. Ben you you refer to it as an ocean's eleven level heist with your bag man and you're inside man and all your other doesn't have to be a man but you know in the parlance of heists and this crew If you will were involved in stealing thousands of tonnes Of the stuff and making off with around eighteen point seven million dollars canadian which is around fifteen million usd Worth of maple syrup. And if you were talking about this around the water cooler It might have at the time like tin for most people. i imagine. Strike you as a little bit funny Immediately when you hear somebody stole maple syrup. That's right because what do you do with all that. That's what do you not back in two thousand twelve. That was the immediate question. It's like one of those hikes where you know. I try notices too often air. But oh i've weird thing with dirigibles always joked about stealing blimp airship and the big the reason. That's so humorous is because the hell do you do it where yeah where are you going to put all that maple syrup how do you. How do you explain that. How do you adia launder naples. Syrup offense maple syrup. that's a good question ben. Among the end of the day How is it any different than any. Other valuable commodity. You know 'cause valuable it absolutely is as you mentioned earlier it costs upwards of a under two grand a barrel whereas oil i think is only around seventy five seventy six bucks so i mean absolutely sticky brown is what the stuff is but You know chuckles aside. When the story came through there really is absolutely dark. presumably somewhat sticky underbelly to the world of maple syrup because the story didn't just end up exposing these criminals who did get caught and convicted ultimately expose something else something much deeper and arguably more sinister A multigenerational cartel like operation that spanned decades. You see the economist. And jarvis didn't just say. The canada was the saudi arabia of maple syrup. They went a little further and they said this situation also has an opec yup dares a conspiracy afoot in the land of pancakes waffles. Folks just like the stories diamonds or the early days of light bulbs turns out. Maple syrup is run by a cartel. What are we talking about. We'll tell you after word from our sponsor week one may be over but the season's just getting started at draft king sportsbook in officials sports betting partner of the nfl to kick off week to draft. Kings is giving new customers two hundred dollars in free bets instantly when they one dollar on any football game. Listen up because you don't want to miss this head to the draft king sportsbook app now and place a bet of one dollar on any week. 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"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

14:51 min | 10 months ago

"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"Take it all at once but think of it this way. So the people who tap these trees they are called sugar makers which i think is tremendously sweet several levels and they they're part of where the art and the science really me to do this successfully. They need to have a very deep understanding of each tree like they tend to know what's history they know if they had any problems with bugs or some kind of rot got to it and they take immense pains not to do any lasting harm because if everything goes well these trees can be tapped again and again multiple times over a long period of time like a century or more and matt. I'd love to hear a little more about that sap collection process because it a changed over time right. Oh yeah before. The invention of i guess modern plastics and You know just some innovation the way he would tap an old maple back in the day is you would have you would do the you have to get a hole into the tree itself but before it was just this kind of wooden like a wooden tube. Let's say that would come out like a spout almost or did just kind of goes down in his angled down. And then you'd hang a bucket onto that wouldn't peace or at least you'd get a bucket very close to where that wooden pieces. It's actually tapping the tree that bucket would fill up. And then you take the bucket over dump it into wherever you collect and then like sometimes like a big pan and exactly you would boil you. Boil the sap down near reducing it to something something thicker plastic change. This operation made much more efficient. It's funny it almost reminds me of those old I believe tropicana orange juice ads. Where it was just like a straw shoved into the orange. The implication being that it's like it comes you know it's the freshest you can get without sucking it straight from the orange but it's about that low tech even in the modern day i mean you're literally shoving thing into the tree that is then pulling the draining the sap out into some receptacle but yeah and ben made a really really great point just before we got into the tubing and everything just that if you mess up and you tap the tree wrong were in the wrong place or too many times and you lose that. Imagine you're losing forty years minimum of effort to get that tree to where it needs to be to even be topical. So that's why that's why it is such there's so much of an art to it in and a science to making it work sweetie song is actually about tapping i was gonna ask. I is it because it replenishes itself over time lead you have to give like leave a period of rest in between tapping so that the sap can be replenished or is it a finite amount. I would imagine it's the former yet. Yeah you're correct is the it's the former. There's a finite amount of to be clear. No sugar maker is parasitic or vampiric. Here they're not draining. These trees dry. It's almost like for very crude analogy. It's almost like they're giving blood. Like process of donating. Blood is meant to leave the donor healthy so really responsible vampire. They can fairy lake an ethical kinda vampire. That shops at the vampire. Equivalent of a cooper whole foods co op wholefoods is no longer the best example but but part of the way they do this and keep these healthy is also by limiting the the amount of time per year when this when this tapping occurs it only takes place for about four to six weeks so think roughly a month and change deering something that is called the door of de sugar season which i think is also a good name for maybe not a ban but an album and this is still. We'll see there's a lot of limitation here and limitations placed on this process. People argue for the good of the tree but they're also at the whim of the weather. It's there's a ideal time to tap this tree tap into this tree and most of these. Tadpoles only give you about ten gallons of sap throughout that period. So four thinking. Back to the attrition that you would describe that means that we're talking for tap holes over a period of brown four to six weeks making forty gallons of sap making one gal maple syrup a ton whoa goes into this. Yeah a ton of work and not that much yield right and therein lies this entire episode. Yeah it's a fascinating process. We spend some time you know especially For those of you all familiar with our all school origins house of works. We would totally spend at our. He'd just exploring how cool this process is but for our purposes today fellow conspiracy realist. It's just important to know how much work goes into each one of those little bottles. The industry today is surprisingly big. There's a lot of. There's a lot of money and maple it turns out by twenty twenty three. This is going to be worth the maple syrup industry alone. It's going to be worth one point. Seven billion dollars. This story may be familiar to some of us listening today because there was a netflix documentary. That came out not too long ago. A great series called dirty money and in one episode in season. One dirty money. They discuss Maple syrup in a way. That's related to this. It turns out officially because of all the time dedicated to creating this. There is a premium price. But it's also only part of the reason there's a premium of price anyway right now when the statistics you'll hear thrown around is accurate but it changes a little bit year over year. A single barrel of maple syrup would be worth around one thousand eight hundred dollars. Eighteen hundred dollars which makes it currently more than twenty times the price of a barrel of oil which is right. Now as we record about seventy three seventy four bucks. That'll that'll change. But they're maple syrup has been more expensive than oil for a long long time. Yeah and it's really great comparison. Because ben isn't joking you're talking around it when he's saying a barrel of this substance d. A barrel of oil is the same as a the the same barrels basically that you can find maple in and and oil in and that also is very important to this story. Yeah yeah forty two gallons. That's how much a Forty two us gallons. That's the size of both of these kinds of barrels so this industry also gets further specialized because is very localized. Maples don't grow everywhere. Maple serves not made everywhere in fact. It's it's pretty much exclusively created in north america. The biggest manufacturer is vermont. That stereotype is true. Vermont is a very big a maple syrup industry at least in the us but that us behemoth is absolutely dwarfed by canada. That's where the real maple action goes down. The province of quebec specifically makes in excess of seventy percent of the world's entire supply of maple syrup and this is why outfits like the economists were investigative reporters carolyn jarvis who appears dirty. Money have called canada. The saudi arabia of maple syrup. It's not just the clever title. It's pretty accurate. It's all intermeshed with the oil industry. Love it yeah. Most people outside of these very specific regions that specialize in producing the stuff Or outside specific industries that are associated normally think about maple syrup Until back in two thousand twelve that is when there was a story that hit the press Where it had been discovered that someone had pulled a heist. Ben you you refer to it as an ocean's eleven level heist with your bag man and you're inside man and all your other doesn't have to be a man but you know in the parlance of heists and this crew If you will were involved in stealing thousands of tonnes Of the stuff and making off with around eighteen point seven million dollars canadian which is around fifteen million usd Worth of maple syrup. And if you were talking about this around the water cooler It might have at the time like tin for most people. i imagine. Strike you as a little bit funny Immediately when you hear somebody stole maple syrup. That's right because what do you do with all that. That's what do you not back in two thousand twelve. That was the immediate question. It's like one of those hikes where you know. I try notices too often air. But oh i've weird thing with dirigibles always joked about stealing blimp airship and the big the reason. That's so humorous is because the hell do you do it where yeah where are you going to put all that maple syrup how do you. How do you explain that. How do you adia launder naples. Syrup offense maple syrup. that's a good question ben. Among the end of the day How is it any different than any. Other valuable commodity. You know 'cause valuable it absolutely is as you mentioned earlier it costs upwards of a under two grand a barrel whereas oil i think is only around seventy five seventy six bucks so i mean absolutely sticky brown is what the stuff is but You know chuckles aside. When the story came through there really is absolutely dark. presumably somewhat sticky underbelly to the world of maple syrup because the story didn't just end up exposing these criminals who did get caught and convicted ultimately expose something else something much deeper and arguably more sinister A multigenerational cartel like operation that spanned decades. You see the economist. And jarvis didn't just say. The canada was the saudi arabia of maple syrup. They went a little further and they said this situation also has an opec yup dares a conspiracy afoot in the land of pancakes waffles. Folks just like the stories diamonds or the early days of light bulbs turns out. Maple syrup is run by a cartel. What are we talking about. We'll tell you after word from our sponsor week one may be over but the season's just getting started at draft king sportsbook in officials sports betting partner of the nfl to kick off week to draft. Kings is giving new customers two hundred dollars in free bets instantly when they one dollar on any football game. Listen up because you don't want to miss this head to the draft king sportsbook app now and place a bet of one dollar on any week. Two game to receive two hundred dollars in free bets instantly if sportsbook is not yet available in your state draft king still has huge cash prizes up for grabs all season long with their daily contests draft kings giving all new customers a free shot at millions of dollars in total prizes with their first deposit. Download the draft kings sportsbook now and use promo code k one to receive two hundred dollars in free bets. When you place a one dollar bet on any football game that's promo code decay one this week. Draft king sportsbook in officials sports betting partner of the nfl must be twenty one or older new jersey indiana or pennsylvania only new customers only minimum five dollar deposit in one dollar wager required one per customer restrictions. Apply see draftkings dot com slash sportsbook for details gambling problem. Call one eight hundred gambler or an indiana one. Eight hundred nine with it. It's good to see the teams back out on the grid. Iron lucky for us. that was just week. One draft kings the official daily fantasy partner of the. Nfl is putting you in the center of the action for week. Two new customers can get a free shot at millions of dollars in total prizes with their first deposit by signing up using code target. Get in on the action now. It's simple just pick your lineup. Stay under the salary cap and see how your team stacks up against the competition. Feel the nfl action like never before with a free shot at millions of dollars in total prizes. Download the draft kings app now and use code target this week. New customers can get a free shot at millions of dollars. Total prizes enter code target to get a free shot at millions in total prizes with your first deposit. That's code target only at draft kings the official daily fantasy partner of the nfl minimum five dollar deposit required eligibility restrictions. Apply see draft kings dot com for details. This episode is brought to you by federal. 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"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

14:12 min | 10 months ago

"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"These trees can be tapped again and again multiple times over a long period of time like a century or more and matt. I'd love to hear a little more about that sap collection process because it a changed over time right. Oh yeah before. The invention of i guess modern plastics and You know just some innovation the way he would tap an old maple back in the day is you would have you would do the you have to get a hole into the tree itself but before it was just this kind of wooden like a wooden tube. Let's say that would come out like a spout almost or did just kind of goes down in his angled down. And then you'd hang a bucket onto that wouldn't peace or at least you'd get a bucket very close to where that wooden pieces. It's actually tapping the tree that bucket would fill up. And then you take the bucket over dump it into wherever you collect and then like sometimes like a big pan and exactly you would boil you. Boil the sap down near reducing it to something something thicker plastic change. This operation made much more efficient. It's funny it almost reminds me of those old I believe tropicana orange juice ads. Where it was just like a straw shoved into the orange. The implication being that it's like it comes you know it's the freshest you can get without sucking it straight from the orange but it's about that low tech even in the modern day i mean you're literally shoving thing into the tree that is then pulling the draining the sap out into some receptacle but yeah and ben made a really really great point just before we got into the tubing and everything just that if you mess up and you tap the tree wrong were in the wrong place or too many times and you lose that. Imagine you're losing forty years minimum of effort to get that tree to where it needs to be to even be topical. So that's why that's why it is such there's so much of an art to it in and a science to making it work sweetie song is actually about tapping i was gonna ask. I is it because it replenishes itself over time lead you have to give like leave a period of rest in between tapping so that the sap can be replenished or is it a finite amount. I would imagine it's the former yet. Yeah you're correct is the it's the former. There's a finite amount of to be clear. No sugar maker is parasitic or vampiric. Here they're not draining. These trees dry. It's almost like for very crude analogy. It's almost like they're giving blood. Like process of donating. Blood is meant to leave the donor healthy so really responsible vampire. They can fairy lake an ethical kinda vampire. That shops at the vampire. Equivalent of a cooper whole foods co op wholefoods is no longer the best example but but part of the way they do this and keep these healthy is also by limiting the the amount of time per year when this when this tapping occurs it only takes place for about four to six weeks so think roughly a month and change deering something that is called the door of de sugar season which i think is also a good name for maybe not a ban but an album and this is still. We'll see there's a lot of limitation here and limitations placed on this process. People argue for the good of the tree but they're also at the whim of the weather. It's there's a ideal time to tap this tree tap into this tree and most of these. Tadpoles only give you about ten gallons of sap throughout that period. So four thinking. Back to the attrition that you would describe that means that we're talking for tap holes over a period of brown four to six weeks making forty gallons of sap making one gal maple syrup a ton whoa goes into this. Yeah a ton of work and not that much yield right and therein lies this entire episode. Yeah it's a fascinating process. We spend some time you know especially For those of you all familiar with our all school origins house of works. We would totally spend at our. He'd just exploring how cool this process is but for our purposes today fellow conspiracy realist. It's just important to know how much work goes into each one of those little bottles. The industry today is surprisingly big. There's a lot of. There's a lot of money and maple it turns out by twenty twenty three. This is going to be worth the maple syrup industry alone. It's going to be worth one point. Seven billion dollars. This story may be familiar to some of us listening today because there was a netflix documentary. That came out not too long ago. A great series called dirty money and in one episode in season. One dirty money. They discuss Maple syrup in a way. That's related to this. It turns out officially because of all the time dedicated to creating this. There is a premium price. But it's also only part of the reason there's a premium of price anyway right now when the statistics you'll hear thrown around is accurate but it changes a little bit year over year. A single barrel of maple syrup would be worth around one thousand eight hundred dollars. Eighteen hundred dollars which makes it currently more than twenty times the price of a barrel of oil which is right. Now as we record about seventy three seventy four bucks. That'll that'll change. But they're maple syrup has been more expensive than oil for a long long time. Yeah and it's really great comparison. Because ben isn't joking you're talking around it when he's saying a barrel of this substance d. A barrel of oil is the same as a the the same barrels basically that you can find maple in and and oil in and that also is very important to this story. Yeah yeah forty two gallons. That's how much a Forty two us gallons. That's the size of both of these kinds of barrels so this industry also gets further specialized because is very localized. Maples don't grow everywhere. Maple serves not made everywhere in fact. It's it's pretty much exclusively created in north america. The biggest manufacturer is vermont. That stereotype is true. Vermont is a very big a maple syrup industry at least in the us but that us behemoth is absolutely dwarfed by canada. That's where the real maple action goes down. The province of quebec specifically makes in excess of seventy percent of the world's entire supply of maple syrup and this is why outfits like the economists were investigative reporters carolyn jarvis who appears dirty. Money have called canada. The saudi arabia of maple syrup. It's not just the clever title. It's pretty accurate. It's all intermeshed with the oil industry. Love it yeah. Most people outside of these very specific regions that specialize in producing the stuff Or outside specific industries that are associated normally think about maple syrup Until back in two thousand twelve that is when there was a story that hit the press Where it had been discovered that someone had pulled a heist. Ben you you refer to it as an ocean's eleven level heist with your bag man and you're inside man and all your other doesn't have to be a man but you know in the parlance of heists and this crew If you will were involved in stealing thousands of tonnes Of the stuff and making off with around eighteen point seven million dollars canadian which is around fifteen million usd Worth of maple syrup. And if you were talking about this around the water cooler It might have at the time like tin for most people. i imagine. Strike you as a little bit funny Immediately when you hear somebody stole maple syrup. That's right because what do you do with all that. That's what do you not back in two thousand twelve. That was the immediate question. It's like one of those hikes where you know. I try notices too often air. But oh i've weird thing with dirigibles always joked about stealing blimp airship and the big the reason. That's so humorous is because the hell do you do it where yeah where are you going to put all that maple syrup how do you. How do you explain that. How do you adia launder naples. Syrup offense maple syrup. that's a good question ben. Among the end of the day How is it any different than any. Other valuable commodity. You know 'cause valuable it absolutely is as you mentioned earlier it costs upwards of a under two grand a barrel whereas oil i think is only around seventy five seventy six bucks so i mean absolutely sticky brown is what the stuff is but You know chuckles aside. When the story came through there really is absolutely dark. presumably somewhat sticky underbelly to the world of maple syrup because the story didn't just end up exposing these criminals who did get caught and convicted ultimately expose something else something much deeper and arguably more sinister A multigenerational cartel like operation that spanned decades. You see the economist. And jarvis didn't just say. The canada was the saudi arabia of maple syrup. They went a little further and they said this situation also has an opec yup dares a conspiracy afoot in the land of pancakes waffles. Folks just like the stories diamonds or the early days of light bulbs turns out. Maple syrup is run by a cartel. What are we talking about. We'll tell you after word from our sponsor week one may be over but the season's just getting started at draft king sportsbook in officials sports betting partner of the nfl to kick off week to draft. Kings is giving new customers two hundred dollars in free bets instantly when they one dollar on any football game. Listen up because you don't want to miss this head to the draft king sportsbook app now and place a bet of one dollar on any week. Two game to receive two hundred dollars in free bets instantly if sportsbook is not yet available in your state draft king still has huge cash prizes up for grabs all season long with their daily contests draft kings giving all new customers a free shot at millions of dollars in total prizes with their first deposit. Download the draft kings sportsbook now and use promo code k one to receive two hundred dollars in free bets. When you place a one dollar bet on any football game that's promo code decay one this week. Draft king sportsbook in officials sports betting partner of the nfl must be twenty one or older new jersey indiana or pennsylvania only new customers only minimum five dollar deposit in one dollar wager required one per customer restrictions. Apply see draftkings dot com slash sportsbook for details gambling problem. Call one eight hundred gambler or an indiana one. Eight hundred nine with it. It's good to see the teams back out on the grid. Iron lucky for us. that was just week. One draft kings the official daily fantasy partner of the. Nfl is putting you in the center of the action for week. Two new customers can get a free shot at millions of dollars in total prizes with their first deposit by signing up using code target. Get in on the action now. It's simple just pick your lineup. Stay under the salary cap and see how your team stacks up against the competition. Feel the nfl action like never before with a free shot at millions of dollars in total prizes. Download the draft kings app now and use code target this week. New customers can get a free shot at millions of dollars. Total prizes enter code target to get a free shot at millions in total prizes with your first deposit. That's code target only at draft kings the official daily fantasy partner of the nfl minimum five dollar deposit required eligibility restrictions. Apply see draft kings dot com for details. This episode is brought to you by federal. Football is back and the best bet you can make is downloading the fan duel sportsbook app. It doesn't matter if you're new to gambling or an old pro fan duel has something for everyone and as an official sports betting partner of the nfl. You know your pets are safe. There's also never been a better time to use fan duel because right. Now get up to one thousand dollars back. If you're i bet doesn't win. You can even turn a small wager into a big payday with the same game parlay bet. Just sign up with the promo code spotify to place your i bet risk-free on fan duel sportsbook download duel today twenty one plus and present in. Virginia i online real money wager. Only refund issued as non-withdrawal site credit. That expires in fourteen days. Restrictions apply see terms at sportsbook dot fan duel dot com gambling problem. Call one eight hundred gambler..

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"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

07:55 min | 10 months ago

"syrup." Discussed on Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Audio

"The syrup so nicely like little syrup cups i would have said awful but the other day. I had pecan pancakes or pecan pancakes. If you're nasty. And they were incredible. And i used this very bottle of one. Hundred percent allegedly maple syrup and it was delicious side now. I didn't even see the front. I didn't want to show you the actual posts in. Yeah okay well. It checks out. You can see. You could see the name here. Yeah i myself in milwaukee person because of these surface area conundrum that you mentioned earlier no feature not a bug also because of the ingredients but the crux of today's story fell conspiracy. Realist is maple syrup. Yes you're listening to a show about critical thinking applied to conspiracy theories and yes. This episode is about maple syrup trust us worth so here are the facts. If you're like most people you've heard of maple syrup right you've heard of it. It's not it's not new to your human experience. It's made from this substance called xylitol sap and it comes primarily from three types of trees that are all maples. The the big the big dog in the game is sugar maples. But you'll also see people ultimately creating maple syrup from red and black maple trees. It's not a new idea like a lot of things. On this continent indigenous people had learned that trick of this thousands and thousands of years ago. They already knew how to take this slightly sweet sap and turn it into syrup and the process that these earlier people discovered or created continues today. It's a really neat marriage. You art and science and is something that i think a lot of people. Don't think about like when if you live in many parts of the. Us you may not even find real maple syrup that often. You may go for the much more affordable table syrups which is not not the legit maple syrup but if you're in certain regions of this continent it particularly the eastern northeastern seaboard right canada new england than it would be tremendously insulting to serve tables syrup to your loved. Ones your friends they would think. Oh okay mr cheap stuff over here has decided that we are acquaintances and not and like can seriously be seen as an insult. And that's because they are very different things the i think to set this up. We need to talk a little bit about the process of creating this stuff because so much work goes into it and would you understand how much work goes into it. You can understand a little. Bit of why maple syrup is such a big deal to some people okay. So let's talk about sap that's it we're going to talk about Because you need a lot of it to make maple syrup The sap is almost like a water in terms of the makeup of the product. It is an incredibly thin Substance contains about two percent sucrose so it makes sweet and about thirty to forty gallons of sap is what it takes to make just a single gallon of maple syrup And of course the sap is the key ingredient in the process also requires another key ingredient. Which is time you have to have you know. You can't grow a tree overnight. A tree needs to be healthy and it needs to be at least around ten inches in diameter before it can be tapped Which is exactly what it sounds like you. Stick a device into the tree at then sucks. The sap released allows you to train the tree of that south And it typically takes a tree around forty years to reach that kind of size and it's pretty made. The process really is amazing. If you watch videos online about it and seeing especially if it's a larger operation with a lot of maple trees that have been tapped and just watch looking at the lines of of sap that just slowly drain from the tree into a collection area. It's pretty cool. It's fascinating because you could tap a younger or smaller tree. But it would have. It would have tough affects on the health of the tree which is super important. That's why we say takes about forty years because you're waiting for. Its reach that size and for a large tree. If it's large enough you could have multiple taps on the tree. There's a lot of really cool terminology here that i've just sort of unapologetically peppered through because it's a lot to take it all at once but think of it this way. So the people who tap these trees they are called sugar makers which i think is tremendously sweet several levels and they they're part of where the art and the science really me to do this successfully. They need to have a very deep understanding of each tree like they tend to know what's history they know if they had any problems with bugs or some kind of rot got to it and they take immense pains not to do any lasting harm because if everything goes well these trees can be tapped again and again multiple times over a long period of time like a century or more and matt. I'd love to hear a little more about that sap collection process because it a changed over time right. Oh yeah before. The invention of i guess modern plastics and You know just some innovation the way he would tap an old maple back in the day is you would have you would do the you have to get a hole into the tree itself but before it was just this kind of wooden like a wooden tube. Let's say that would come out like a spout almost or did just kind of goes down in his angled down. And then you'd hang a bucket onto that wouldn't peace or at least you'd get a bucket very close to where that wooden pieces. It's actually tapping the tree that bucket would fill up. And then you take the bucket over dump it into wherever you collect and then like sometimes like a big pan and exactly you would boil you. Boil the sap down near reducing it to something something thicker plastic change. This operation made much more efficient. It's funny it almost reminds me of those old I believe tropicana orange juice ads. Where it was just like a straw shoved into the orange. The implication being that it's like it comes you know it's the freshest you can get without sucking it straight from the orange but it's about that low tech even in the modern day i mean you're literally shoving thing into the tree that is then pulling the draining the sap out into some receptacle but yeah and ben made a really really great point just before we got into the tubing and everything just that if you mess up and you tap the tree wrong were in the wrong place or too many times and you lose that. Imagine you're losing forty years minimum of effort to get that tree to where it needs to be to even be topical. So that's why that's why it is such there's so much of an art to it in.

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Biden's Next Narrative Will Be Blaming President Trump's Deal

The Dan Bongino Show

01:18 min | 10 months ago

Biden's Next Narrative Will Be Blaming President Trump's Deal

"Narrative number three. The media is getting ready to shove down your throat like syrup of epic attack here. Is. Hey, man, I had a surrender to the Taliban. Because Trump cut a deal with the Taliban and I had no way out. And it was the only way that the hostility stop because Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump cut a deal. Play this cut cut to and then we come back in the tournament, So even some Republicans who are pretty savvy, pretty savvy cats. Even some of them fell for this yesterday. Like, Look, he's finally celebrating Trump that somebody's doing. Play cut to the reason why whether my friend will acknowledge it always reported it The reason why there were no attacks in Americans. As you said. From the date until I came into office was because the commitment was made by President Trump. I will be out by May 1st. In the meantime, you agree not to attack any Americans. That was the deal. That's why no American was attacked. You see what he's doing there? Pour me look this trump. He cut this deal. He surrendered to the Taliban. He told us we had to be out By May 1st. It was nothing I could do.

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Baked Pears, Listener Calls, Harvesting Garlic, and Chestnuts

In the Garden

02:21 min | 11 months ago

Baked Pears, Listener Calls, Harvesting Garlic, and Chestnuts

"Hey joel hello. It's a beauty out there today. Very nice yeah. And i hope to get up and spend a little time in the garden this afternoon myself. So interesting experience The my son. Jake and his wife nikki where the place we rented has a bunch of Pear trees and we noticed that the pears were dropping. You know it's sort of like apples. Early ones drop and the friday night. I came home to dinner. They had made. And one of the things they made was baked pairs. And these were the dropped pairs. It came down and they weren't more than maybe two inches or maybe three and i was so surprised. I sorta figured well. They were hard and and really unusable but they had they had cut them down through the stem and the seeds. The long way opened them up. They put him in a in a big baking pan and put on now. Oh butter and some honey and put them in the oven. Three fifty for about I think they figured it was about forty minutes and all because they kept baking them and they were absolutely fantastic. They were you know big pairs and i would never have thought. Those little hard pairs would would be edible at all but they turned out to be absolutely delicious and they topped it off. with maple syrup and a little brown sugar of course and that helped but they were absolutely delicious terrific. I did that one year. And i actually could do it again. Now because tapani. The place. Where i where i lived. I mean literally off the huge development behind me and all around me and all that but it used to be an orchard out there and yell it's bay and so there are a lot of very old and Vestigial i guess is apple trees and a lot of them look like a cross between crab apple something else. Small hard little apples long story short. Exactly what you said you know bake them in butter a lot of people sarah sugar and they're delicious

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Dressing Up Those Summer Salads

Plant Strong

01:51 min | 1 year ago

Dressing Up Those Summer Salads

"One of the things that i wanted to share with our listeners. Today is this incredible. Balsamic dressing that. I've been using all of my summer. Salads and i love oprah definitely follow her favorite things list and i feel like we need to do a plant strong team favorites list and this would definitely be on there. So can i talk about this product out judgment. Because you're gonna think. I'm out of my mind for the money that i spend on a ball stomach vinegar so i won't wanna do want to know how much you spend on. So nobody would bat an eye for a forty dollar bottle of wine rate and in our household. Don't drink we're not buying the filet mignon or the lobster tails or the fancy specialty cheeses rates. So when we do splurge it's on things like vinegar and this is one of my favorite products. So it's the cuccia in moray balsamic vinegar of modina. It's thirty five to forty dollars a bottle at whole foods which it's expensive. Yes but a little goes a long way. All you need is the finest little drizzle and the reason is so. It's so expensive is because it's really reduced. They're more grapes in this than there is in the average Balsamic vinegar and as you can see. I'm kinda like singing. Around with maple syrup super syrupy. I mean you know it's sticking to the side of the bottle and it's absolutely delicious so this is also one of my favorite gift ideas. If there's somebody living plant shung diet living the plant strong lifestyle eating whole food. Plant based maybe. I don't want to bring them some chocolates. Maybe i don't wanna bring them some wine. I'll bring them really nice bottle of

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How to Make a Blueberry Grenita

The Maria Liberati Show

01:51 min | 1 year ago

How to Make a Blueberry Grenita

"My first recipe is a blueberry gr- anita and it's really refreshing. This time of year is mentioned. You know with all the fresh blueberries. Four cups of fresh blueberries one teaspoon of freshly grated organic lemon peel a teaspoon freshly grated organic orange. Peel two teaspoons of fresh lemon juice and one cup of sugar or sweeteners. taste in a medium size saucepan. Combine the blueberries. Lemon peel orange peel and one cup of water. And then on high he bring this to a boil. Reduce the heat and simmer onto the blueberries are soft set. A fine stringer over the bowl. Strain the mixture pressing with a back of a large spoon. Stir the lemon juice into the puree. Show this pure. I in a saucepan. Combine the sugar and one cup of water over high heat bring to a boil reduce the heat and simmer until the sugar dissolves. So you're making a sugar syrup for about two to three minutes or going to continue then transfer this to a bowl and chill this also star this sugar syrup into the blueberry puree and poor this into a shallow pan freeze the blueberry mixture until ice crystals form around the edges of the pan about forty five to sixty minutes with a fork scrape the ice crystals from the edges and. Stir into the mixture. Freeze the mixture until it's fully frozen about one and a half hours starring several times to serve place this into tall glasses. Garnish with chris. Cookies fresh blueberries than fresh orange slices. It yields about one court

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Summer Cocktail Tips, Straight From the Garden

Plantrama

01:54 min | 1 year ago

Summer Cocktail Tips, Straight From the Garden

"I. I'm not going to talk about a specific cocktail today. But i'm going to encourage people to experiment you know ellen. The mo- hito has been so popular of late. Right and there are several mint based cocktails. And they're fine. They're wonderful and all kinds of mintz can be used for them. So that's delicious. But i would encourage people to experiment with other flavors with any traditional cocktail recipe. That calls for meant whether it's a mint julep or mo hito instead of using the mint think about using other flavors in that same recipe and i would encourage you to try basil. That's a wonderful herb to use for flavoring. I would encourage you to try lemon for beena. Which is a little milder and But also plays well very well with anything that has lime in it. Of course and i would also encourage people to try to stir cham's because using minister shem foliage instead of the mint and even minister shem flowers. You put those flowers and foliage in the cocktail shaker and you mix it up and straighten it out and you've got the spiciness of distortion and you can garnish the cocktail with mr shem flour. And it's it's yummy. I wasn't even thinking on long the substitution line. But last year i had an august a in my garden and at the end of the year i was cutting them back and i dried all the foliage and it's got a wonderful sort of half meant have liquorice flavour and i made some of it into a syrup and i've been thinking what could i. How could i use this in a cocktail so going to go back and look at all the classic mint cocktails and see one. This substitution does for just mixing it up a little bit.

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Mexican Coke (MM #3755)

The Mason Minute

01:00 min | 1 year ago

Mexican Coke (MM #3755)

"The Maison with Kevin Nation. If you live anywhere with a growing Hispanic population, when you hear Mexican Coke, you get excited. I don't mean cocaine talking about Coca Cola because there's a difference between a Mexican Coca-Cola and a regular American Coca-Cola. It's all about the sugar that is used in America. They use high fructose corn syrup to sweeten a Coca-Cola in Mexico, bottle down there. It's all about pure cane sugar. It's the way Coca-Cola used to be back in the olden days but we switched to corn syrup. I think in the 1960s and 1970s and I used to think for sure it didn't matter. It was about the same thing. Really what, what is the Mexican Coke? Always comes in a glass bottle, which does make it colder, allows it to be colder than the plastic bottles of the cans. But when I had my first Mexican Coke a few years back, I was sold. It's not quite as sweet as the high fructose, corn syrup Americanized version of Coca-Cola, but there's something special, there's something refreshing and yes, it's the combination of being in the bottle and being the right temperature, and being just the right sweetness, Mexican Coca-Cola. If you ever see one on a menu, it's worth the extra money. Trust me on this month.

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Mexican Coke (MM #3755)

The Mason Minute

01:00 min | 1 year ago

Mexican Coke (MM #3755)

"The Maison with Kevin Nation. If you live anywhere with a growing Hispanic population, when you hear Mexican Coke, you get excited. I don't mean cocaine talking about Coca Cola because there's a difference between a Mexican Coca-Cola and a regular American Coca-Cola. It's all about the sugar that is used in America. They use high fructose corn syrup to sweeten a Coca-Cola in Mexico, bottle down there. It's all about pure cane sugar. It's the way Coca-Cola used to be back in the olden days but we switched to corn syrup. I think in the 1960s and 1970s and I used to think for sure it didn't matter. It was about the same thing. Really what, what is the Mexican Coke? Always comes in a glass bottle, which does make it colder, allows it to be colder than the plastic bottles of the cans. But when I had my first Mexican Coke a few years back, I was sold. It's not quite as sweet as the high fructose, corn syrup Americanized version of Coca-Cola, but there's something special, there's something refreshing and yes, it's the combination of being in the bottle and being the right temperature, and being just the right sweetness, Mexican Coca-Cola. If you ever see one on a menu, it's worth the extra money. Trust me on this month.

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Parallels of New York Times Reporting Today and Reporting by Nazi Sympathizer Guido Enderis

Mark Levin

01:50 min | 1 year ago

Parallels of New York Times Reporting Today and Reporting by Nazi Sympathizer Guido Enderis

"The New York Times had no intention of doing anything about end Derris fact. And valued his close connections to the Nazi government. As it had throughout the 19 thirties and you see now I can see The New York Times and it's It's sort of apologetic view of Hamas. And the Islamo Nazi regime in Tehran. And it's hate for the state of Israel. In fact, the New York Times valued his close connections to the Nazi government, as it had throughout the 19 thirties. All American newspapers found reporting in the Nazi Germany. Uh In Nazi Germany difficult The government tightly controlled information and Harang and threatened reporters who managed to publish what it didn't like. And that's the regime also didn't hesitate to use its strongest weapons. Banning a newspaper from distribution in Germany kicking reporter out of the country denying a reporter's reentry. As a putatively Jewish owned newspaper, The New York Times considered itself a special target. Bureau chief and Darius, So he wasn't just the report is a bureau chief. His job, therefore was administering reasonably soothing syrup, quote unquote, the Nazi officials. Is another New York Times reporter put it. Endears. His actions weren't purely strategic and their consequences were grave throughout the 19 thirties, The New York Times editor in Berlin helped steer times coverage to play down Jewish persecution and play up Germany's peaceful intention he count out to Nazi officials wrote stories presenting solely the Nazi point of view. And reigned in times reporters whose criticism he thought went too far shaping the news in favor of a genocidal regime. Then on establishing 1000 year, right

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Arsenic in Rice: A Cause for Concern

Diet Science

02:15 min | 1 year ago

Arsenic in Rice: A Cause for Concern

"We'll how does arson again rice. It gets in rice just through the environment and usually through farming practices. It's it's part of fertilizers and pesticides. So when crops are sprayed with pesticides it gets into the soil and then the plants will uptake the arsenic. So that's how it gets in there. So they pull it from the ground and then it becomes part of part of the rice right and apparently rice to seems to be a crop that absorbs more are snick than may be other things like like millet or buckwheat or wa because the way rice is grown sort of flooded with water and so it just has the ability to take up more arsenic. Well how you can undo that. How much of a problem is it. I mean well it. This has been a problem kind came to light. I'm trying to think of how many years ago. It's been at least five years ago or so and i guess at that time was a topic. I think it came up on a message board that we have on our website. And i think i answered some questions there but i don't think we ever did a podcast on it so But basically it. It's issue because so many products are made with rice. So it's not just the rice that you buy and cook and eat. But it's in things like a brown rice syrup or And that's kind of one of the things that it became a concern for a lot of health foods or sweetened with brown rice syrup and then of course there's baby infant formula. That's rice cereal vegetables and it became a a real big thing with children because arsenic their bodies are much smaller. So it's going to affect them more sure and so. The the exposure to arsenic has become a concern. Because obviously in in very minute swale quantities. It's not harmful but in you know relatively Regular exposure to it it can accumulate accumulate in the body and then becomes toxic. And by the way it's known as a group a carcinogen so what so what that means. It's a it's a carcinogen of concern. It causes

Bacon Jam (MM #3685)

The Mason Minute

01:00 min | 1 year ago

Bacon Jam (MM #3685)

"The Maison with Kevin Nation. I don't know if you've seen these commercials for Sonic recently, with the, I think it's called their bacon Jam cheeseburger. And it wasn't something that appealed to me, I'll be the first to admit. I'm one of those people who doesn't care one way or the other about bacon, I like bacon. But I don't love it. Don't hate me for that. But this bacon Jam, I thought was kind of made up. I looked at it and it's like, well, I don't know if that looks good. It can't be a real thing. Maybe it's up there. Making up. Of course, I did the research and found out. No bacon. Jam is a real thing. And it's kind of like a jam, but yet it's more Savory than it is sweet. The Australians have a nice version, which is totally Savory. There's no sweetness to it, but in our American version, maybe some maple syrup, maybe some brown sugar. A lot of companies make bacon Jam, although I guess it's not really a big thing up until the Sonic commercials. I've never heard of it and there isn't much. That hasn't passed through my belly, at least, one time in my life. So I was kind of shocked to find something new. A condiment of some sort. If you will that I hadn't heard of, I thought it was made up only to find out. It's real dead.

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Bacon Jam (MM #3685)

The Mason Minute

01:00 min | 1 year ago

Bacon Jam (MM #3685)

"The Maison with Kevin Nation. I don't know if you've seen these commercials for Sonic recently, with the, I think it's called their bacon Jam cheeseburger. And it wasn't something that appealed to me, I'll be the first to admit. I'm one of those people who doesn't care one way or the other about bacon, I like bacon. But I don't love it. Don't hate me for that. But this bacon Jam, I thought was kind of made up. I looked at it and it's like, well, I don't know if that looks good. It can't be a real thing. Maybe it's up there. Making up. Of course, I did the research and found out. No bacon. Jam is a real thing. And it's kind of like a jam, but yet it's more Savory than it is sweet. The Australians have a nice version, which is totally Savory. There's no sweetness to it, but in our American version, maybe some maple syrup, maybe some brown sugar. A lot of companies make bacon Jam, although I guess it's not really a big thing up until the Sonic commercials. I've never heard of it and there isn't much. That hasn't passed through my belly, at least, one time in my life. So I was kind of shocked to find something new. A condiment of some sort. If you will that I hadn't heard of, I thought it was made up only to find out. It's real dead.

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Bacon Jam (MM #3685)

The Mason Minute

01:00 min | 1 year ago

Bacon Jam (MM #3685)

"The Maison with Kevin Nation. I don't know if you've seen these commercials for Sonic recently, with the, I think it's called their bacon Jam cheeseburger. And it wasn't something that appealed to me, I'll be the first to admit. I'm one of those people who doesn't care one way or the other about bacon, I like bacon. But I don't love it. Don't hate me for that. But this bacon Jam, I thought was kind of made up. I looked at it and it's like, well, I don't know if that looks good. It can't be a real thing. Maybe it's up there. Making up. Of course, I did the research and found out. No bacon. Jam is a real thing. And it's kind of like a jam, but yet it's more Savory than it is sweet. The Australians have a nice version, which is totally Savory. There's no sweetness to it, but in our American version, maybe some maple syrup, maybe some brown sugar. A lot of companies make bacon Jam, although I guess it's not really a big thing up until the Sonic commercials. I've never heard of it and there isn't much. That hasn't passed through my belly, at least, one time in my life. So I was kind of shocked to find something new. A condiment of some sort. If you will that I hadn't heard of, I thought it was made up only to find out. It's real dead.

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George Floyd's brother sheds tears on the stand

AP News Radio

00:52 sec | 1 year ago

George Floyd's brother sheds tears on the stand

"George Floyd's brother testified in the trial in Minneapolis of the former police officer accused in his death he's the younger brother in the family aloneness Neil below it he testified he looked up to his Big Brother and George Floyd looked out for him he used to make the best banana mayonnaise sandwiches and he used to make syrup sandwiches because George can cook the prosecution showed colonus Floyd a picture of his mother with a young boy was my older brother Joe likes it yes both also doctor Jonathan rich a cardiology expert echoed earlier witnesses testifying it wasn't a drug overdose or a heart condition that killed George Boyd it was the truly the prone restraint and positional restraints that led to his at sixty ation take from court TV I met Donahue

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Most Intriguing Trade Deadline Teams with Bobby Marks

The Lowe Post

02:49 min | 1 year ago

Most Intriguing Trade Deadline Teams with Bobby Marks

"To the low post podcast on a friday morning where we are six days away from the trade deadline but some trades of already happened. People are acting early. Miami acquired trevor ariza and the bucks made a very interesting move to acquire. Pj tucker but there's much left to do even on boring trade deadline's are never actually boring. Lots of stuff happens to help. Us preview are insider are cap expert former longtime nets executive. The one and only bobby marks how are you. I'm good zach. How're you. And i already had my usually about a week out from the trade. I start having nightmares in the middle of the night. And i did my first nightmare last night. That woke me up about four o'clock that A fictitional trade of paul george in kyle lowry to the nets for curry irving and i woke up thinking like how in the heck is at work cap wise but the person in my dream that i talked to said. Hey don't worry about it. Works and i was like check my phone right off. The bat at four thirty in that did not happen. That is that is really sad. I had a dream last night. That four of my friends in their families were quarantining at a former. I hop that still had all the i hop like syrup and technology to be a functioning and they were having lots of pancakes in great meals and i wanted to go visit them. This is what. I was dreaming about six days before the train then. I woke up very hungry. Bunny dream will probably more likely to happen than cholera. Paul george and brooklyn possibly. What did it before we start. What did you think of the bucks acquiring j. tucker in a deal of of minor draft assets. I would say yeah. I mean it was creative. I thought that you know the milwaukee because it hard cap and based on the picks going in that drew holiday trade really had limited options to go out and do it but they go under the milwaukee goes under the Luxury tax gives them flexibility on a hard cap houston from their front office with the draft. Picks i don't think it would have been able to do it if They didn't have that two thousand twenty second from the hardened trade. That was the box. Essentially that they got from jarrett for From cleveland jared allen. But i had never really seen a team basically swapping a first for a second and then tr trade back that two thousand twenty second and you move back a year in the draft so it was creative from from both sides. And you'll see what brand. Pj tucker we get in milwaukee because he has not been. He hasn't been great this year at all and is it just the level of interest of a houston team that has taken on major water. And do we get to see the pj tucker from the previous years. But it gives milwaukee a lot of different options as far as lineups that they can. They can roll out there with him.

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The History Of The Cola Wars

Conspiracy Theories

04:49 min | 1 year ago

The History Of The Cola Wars

"In the late eighteen eighties. Pharmacist named john doc. Pemberton decided to get rich selling homemade cures and elixirs. We should note in spite of his nickname. Doc wasn't a traditional doctor. He hadn't trained in mainstream medical practice instead advocating for alternative treatments and remedies and he wasn't alone in his passions late nineteenth century doctors and patients. We're wild about drugs. And even pharmacists could get rich quick selling inert or sometimes dangerous products as cure all remedies before pemberton's time even something as benign as ketchup was marketed. As a treatment for diarrhea jaundice and rheumatism bayer pharmaceuticals pedaled heroin as a cough suppressant and a safer alternative to morphine and literal snake. Oil salesman claimed that rattlesnakes fluids could cure their gullible customers. It's no wonder that. Pemberton figured he could brew his own dubious remedy in make a fortune. His first hit product was called. French wine coca. It contains several ingredients that would raise eyebrows today but they were considered healthy at the time. Things like wine and coca leaves which contain cocaine. Pemberton claimed that french wine coca was an energy drink and a remedy for morphine addiction and the people loved it. Unsurprisingly the beverage sold well but it wasn't long before pemberton ran into an obstacle just months after french. Wine coca hit. The shelves at the end of eighteen eighty five fulton county georgia outlawed alcohol atlanta based dot. Pemberton had a new problem realizing he probably never strike it big with his mental tonic. Pemberton went back to the drawing board. He wanted to replicate french wine. Coca success but with a non alcoholic beverage. Luckily he had a new product in. Mind it too featured coca leaves but he added the kola nut a west african fruit pit. That's high in caffeine. The mixture of coca and cola gave customers a mild buzz and inspired the drinks name. Coca-cola the beverage sold modestly in its first year unfortunately. Pemberton wasn't particularly skilled with marketing. and distribution. so shortly before his death he sold the business to a fellow druggist with more business. Sense acer candler from their candler built a beverage empire through soda fountains in the nineteenth century. Chola manufacturers generally sold syrup to local businesses. This was more efficient because soda. Bottling technology was fairly new and not widespread yet. They're carbonated water was added to the syrup. So the coke was fresh and fizzy when it was served. Gamblers forward thinking mindset. Didn't stop there. He knew he could reach more customers if he didn't limit his avenues of distribution so in eighteen eighty nine. He sold bottling rights to a plant in chattanooga tennessee. Now customers didn't need to visit the nearest soda fountain for a glass of coca cola. They could buy it the corner shop and drink it at home then. Candler made another even bigger shakeup. He altered the coca cola recipe. We don't know all the changes candler made to the recipe. But we know one of his goals. He didn't want to sell cocaine to his customers and he had two reasons why first candler was very religious second and more importantly he was racist. Most soda fountains were segregated. So only white people could drink coca cola on tap but once he started selling bottled coke. Southern newspapers began printing rumors of quote negro cocaine fiends. In quote white supremacists suggested that the soda drove people of color to commit violent crimes including sexual assault hypocritically. Nobody expressed any concern. That cocaine might drive a white people to commit crimes and to be realistic. There probably wasn't enough cocaine in the beverage to spur consumers to violence although it's hard to say because it doesn't seem like anyone was tracking how much they were using in the recipe. Regardless candler was committed to eliminating the coke from coke.

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Aunt Jemima Has a New Name

Business Wars Daily

01:25 min | 1 year ago

Aunt Jemima Has a New Name

"Oh what a difference. A year makes in the breakfast food. I'll at least and jemima brand of pancakes and serbs has a new name as we previously reported pepsico announced that it was overhauling the breakfast brands name and imagery which was under intense. Fire for being racially insensitive. The new brand will be called the pearl milling company. The products still look a lot like they always have. The company kept the packaging design with its signature bright red and mouth-watering images of pancakes drenched in butter and syrup but the image of a smiling black woman is gone and so is the name. The name is the original moniker of the missouri company that i developed the self rising pancake. Mix the company patented the product under the aunt. Jemima name you'll start seeing the new packaging on store shelves in june. You'll recall last summer. When the black lives matter movement shined a spotlight on inequality in brands were forced to do some self examination during that time. Many companies that were using racially insensitive or racist imagery vowed to make changes. During that time. Conagra brands switch manufacturers. The mrs butterworth's brand of syrups and pancake mixes issued a statement that it was undertaking. A complete brand review of its mrs butterworth's lines but unlike its competitor the company stopped short of saying it would drop the name and image critic said that the syrup bottle shaped like a matronly woman was also based on a racial stereotype. But there is no word yet on agra brands plans for mrs butterworth or the state of the review process.

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"syrup." Discussed on Diet Science

Diet Science

04:57 min | 1 year ago

"syrup." Discussed on Diet Science

"Do that so just just as a reminder to the listeners. The good back at the good fiber that's in the con is the type that resists digestion in the in our small intestine so it doesn't break down into sugars but then it goes on through the intestine into the large intestine where it becomes food for the good bacteria are probiotics and then when the probiotics feed on that it breaks down into short chain fatty acids which then are very helpful for slowing blood sugar levels and lead to weight loss and they also believe that uconn has the ability to Increase a particular are actually lower. A particular type of hunger hormone called ghrelin which will help reduce appetite as well so it has two different kinds of things going on with it. Yeah and so. There's there's really been only one really good study that have been done with the effect of your sir upon weight loss. But it's actually a really good one and with some very promising results so the study was double blind. Placebo controlled clinical trial There were fifty five participants. They were obese. Women who had cholesterol problems being high cholesterol and a history of constipation so these women were split into two groups. A total of forty women took yukon syrup about one to two teaspoons day while fifteen women took another type of syrup that didn't have any active ingredient in it so that was kind of like the placebo group. All of them were advised to eat a low fat diet and mildly restrict calories in the study went on for about four months and at the end of the study. The women in the con- syrup group had lost thirty three pounds on average and at the same time. The placebo group gained an average of three and a half pounds. My right and the study also found reductions in waist circumference which was a really big deal and obesity and then The con syrup group lost three point nine inches off of their waste and no significant change was seen in the placebo group so someone can use it as a sweetener in their coffee in the morning..

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"syrup." Discussed on The Ladies of Strange

The Ladies of Strange

05:43 min | 1 year ago

"syrup." Discussed on The Ladies of Strange

"Don't wear open. Toed sandals while mowing the lawn a- amazing on august twenty fourth and twenty thirteen. a man ordered Sour toe shot swallowed it and paid the five hundred dollar fine. A five hundred dollar fine because he swallowed the to-. Yeah i mean think about it you can't you don't have an endless supply of toes after a while like it's lost the original. I'm not interested anymore. Part of the reason why like he's wallet. It an exited the saloon in an alternate like drop the to- situation. This was the first and only time the tow was deliberately consumed and as a result. The fine has been increased to twenty five hundred dollars in june twenty seventeen over the tow was stolen and later returned via mail to the owner. Oh mike owner of the bar or the owner of the toe. Yeah they're currently on to- number ten. Yeah yeah kind of loses the effect after awhile plus. I have no desire to drink it too. So do you guys want to be part of this hour to cocktail clerk. Step one you gotta come to the sourdot saloon step to purchase a shot missed. The club. Members prefer yukon. Jack step three. You pledge the sauerkraut oath. Ooh tell me. Tell me the oath. Excellent question moving on step number four watch as a genuine dehydrated. Toe is dropped into your drink. Step five is drink. Your sour to- cocktail. They're over a hundred thousand members. Oh i love this so much. I want to add my name to that list. Would you like to know what the recipe for this cocktail. Yes while cahal one ounce of all ho yeah one dehydrated to- garnish with courage. Oh yep i'm gonna pass okay. Look here's the deal. I love the idea of this. To- that was fully. Saving side ongoing. Yes you have to remember. That tow time is between nine and eleven pm and considering the notoriety of this events torch trap. Yeah maybe check ahead of time and get your name on the list of your in that area. Oh you can like sign up ahead of time for it at least call timberlake available. I have three ladies who will be there at nine. Oh one we'll be doing this by yourself. Yeah i will watch. I feel like if we made it all the way up to this hour. To- saloon you half to do the shot. No i would have a lot of questions because that is in the literal epitome of nowhere. Don't be hating on the yukon. I'm not hating on it. It's just it's empty so we're going up there to do the shot to me. Let me try this from a different angle. Do you know how cold it is all. I don't like the cold. But i would do it for the tow. Would you you get halfway there and start complaining. That's a valid as flights. Absolutely do not go to the city. That's super tiny aircraft. Travel some other way travel by snowmobile. A caged heated. Snowmobile caged heated. You mean a car. There are some places. I know in alaska where you can't go by vehicle. It's i assume the yukon was the same. I think pe- yukon is pretty. I mean it's still very cold daily bad weather but they're pretty well The established Is adjacent to alaska. Yeah i think they can probably get you there okay. Perfect and let's go..

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"syrup." Discussed on The Ladies of Strange

The Ladies of Strange

03:46 min | 1 year ago

"syrup." Discussed on The Ladies of Strange

"It was pretty serious. Business in total. Nearly five hundred. Forty thousand gallons of syrup had been stolen that was twelve point five percent of the total reserve at two thousand dollars per barrel. It is about thirteen or in two thousand twelve. It was about thirteen times. The price of a barrel of crude oil palsy. Schweitzer should we invest in maple syrup gel. Let's move to canada. Anyone wanna take a guess at the value. The amount to the dollar amount that they tabulated was stolen. Three million i was thinking like five mil- eighteen point seven million dollars and canadian. Money's yes what is augean money called. It's something cute loon. Yeah that is cute in their money is waterproof. What's it's pretty brilliant. Well it snows a lot there. Dude canadians they out it. I can't remember if it's a lunar loonier a colloquial term for it it. I've heard looney. But and i'm not sure if that applies to the coins or the dollar bills claimer canadian. It's cute disclaimer. Non-canadian almost as far away. Oh we have a comedian and at work. I'm gonna talk to her. it's fine. I'll ask her about baker work. Sound incredibly weird which is accurate. Yeah she has one who suggested the niagara fall- barrel anyway we did touch base Maple syrup ridiculous amounts lots of money. Eighteen point seven million dollars. It became known as the great maple syrup heist said to be. Among the biggest agricultural crimes ever committed so it was believed to be an inside job not necessarily members of the fda q. or manufacturer but a tenant who to be renting space in the same facility. I'm trying to imagine. Lake offloading that much maple syrup and like how long you would have had to been doing it for it to not be noticed or you just like they took a weekend offer a holiday and you and your buddies would in there just demolished. A bunch of i don't own so the reason i thought it would be somebody within the same facilities that they would have access they'd have the keys they wouldn't be questioned by security to be on the property for some reason they had to have access to be on there but they didn't think it'd be anyone from the f. a. q. or manufacturer because if you mess with supply and demand they change how much they're willing to pay you and so lose traceability. It's a mask yet. So they really wrote off most people that'd be involved with f. b. q. In any way so several conspirators pursued including avic carson and richard villares working with a handful of others Some with knowledge of the trade. They apparently went after the bounty over the course of a year. According to the prosecutors the gang would truck barrels out of their reserve to a sugar shack where they would siphon the syrup into their own barrels and then refill the originals with water. And take those back in. It's basically they would act like delivery people and they would take barrels and remove full barrels bring quote unquote full barrels. But they were filled with water. Anyone else craving pancakes right now. You should have seen me researching this episode. I was very hungry. And i won't real maple syrup. So as the operation grew they allegedly brought on accomplices began siphoning the syrup directly from the barrels in the reserve and nearly ten thousand barrels of syrup were stolen and truck two points from south east. It said we're the market was free. So i guess maybe that's not controlled by the fbi. Cue which is how they were able to sell it. Okay i was thinking black market but plaque maple syrup..

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"syrup." Discussed on The Nutrition Diva's Quick and Dirty Tips for Eating Well and Feeling Fabulous

The Nutrition Diva's Quick and Dirty Tips for Eating Well and Feeling Fabulous

04:21 min | 2 years ago

"syrup." Discussed on The Nutrition Diva's Quick and Dirty Tips for Eating Well and Feeling Fabulous

"Hello and welcome to the nutrition diva podcast I'm your host Monica Reina. A listener recently asked me to look into an ingredient called glucose syrup. This is often used as a sweetener in processed foods, such as cookies, candy and other confections, and she'd read that it's a very concentrated source of sugar that supposedly contains four times the amount of sugar and calories per tablespoon as regular table sugar, the implication of course that one should avoid foods made with glucose syrup. I tracked this specific claim to an article written by a Dietitian for website called health line now this is a site that I consider to be a very reliable source in general I have found their nutrition articles to be thorough, accurate and very well referenced and sure enough. That statement that Glucose Syrup contains four times. The sugar and calories found in regular sugar, was footnoted and linked to the USDA's food and nutrient database the gold standard for nutrient data. One footnote linked to the nutritional analysis for light. Corn, Syrup, which is another name for Glucose Syrup. One tablespoon contains seventeen grams of sugar and sixty two calories. The other footnote linked to the nutritional analysis for regular table sugar one tablespoon contains four grams of sugar and sixteen calories. Case closed. Actually make that case overturned on appeal. Because unfortunately, this second listing was inaccurate. You see in addition to the tens of thousands of foods that have been analyzed by the USDA to create their amazing food nutrient database, they also include as a public service nutrient information for tens of thousands of additional packaged and processed foods, and they base that on information that's been provided by the manufacturer, and there are frequent errors. In fact, there's a disclaimer right on the page that health line cited stating that the info was provided by food brand owners who are responsible for the descriptions, nutrient data and the ingredient information. Well. In this case, it was just a simple typo. The manufacturer chose the wrong serving size the nutrient info that they uploaded four grams of sugar and sixteen calories. For a teaspoon of sugar, not a tablespoon, and for those of you who don't bake or maybe used metric measures. A tablespoon contains three teaspoons. So a tablespoon of Corn Syrup does not contain four times as many calories as a tablespoon of sugar, it is actually about a third higher. It contains seventeen grams of sugar versus twelve grams, and this is simply due to the fact that sugar crystals aren't as dense as sugar syrup. Something that manufacturers adjust for in their recipes. Look if you're concerned about the sugar or the calorie content of packaged food, it doesn't really matter how many tablespoons of an ingredient were added to the recipe. What matters is how many grams of sugar end up in each serving of the finished product something that's disclosed usually accurately on the nutrition facts label look mistakes happen and I sent an email to the Dietitian who wrote the article, alerting her to the error, and I hope that she and health line will be able to correct it. But. Here's a quick tip for anyone who's using the USDA's database to look up nutrient info. You can filter those listings so that they don't show the manufacturer provided listings. The USDA data is perfect, but it's generally much more complete and more reliable than the manufacturer supplied data. But I still have one other problem with this article on corn or Glucose Syrup because the author goes on to write that quote Consuming Glucose Syrup regularly may increase your risk of obesity, high blood, sugar, poor, dental, health, high blood, pressure, and Heart, disease, and quote, and once again she includes citations this time. She's linking to articles published in medical journals. But these articles are not about corn syrup per se they refer to all added sugars,

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"syrup." Discussed on The DogBone Pawdcast

The DogBone Pawdcast

11:50 min | 2 years ago

"syrup." Discussed on The DogBone Pawdcast

"Guys welcome back podcast number. Sixty five Ben and I talked about we. I think we just put sixty four out so we are definitely caught up with them. And we're trying to do more of these more regularly just as a as a effective the times. I suppose we have been Brennan. I've been brainstorming along with the other guys here On what's the best way we can help? We've all agreed. And we all have concluded that the more information we can provide the better so we've got several different things that we're working on right now and podcasts are not new to us. But we're going to put our foot on the pedal on them. I think in China continue to pump them out this one. We're GONNA talk about. We talked about it a little bit in our last. Podcast last Yesterday the Monday. Today's Wednesday so Monday. We filmed one in recorded it outside and we were actually making. Maple Syrup at the time I had brought home like fifteen gallons of sap from the weekend up north. We had a nice run. We had cold temperatures with twenty s at night and forties in the afternoon and in real short period of time there. I ended up with an extra fifteen gallons of sap and I didn't want to waste it and so we brought it home and Ben and I boiled down on Monday and made Syrup on it and so we talked a little bit about that. And we recorded a podcast. While we were doing it we were thinking about doing a syrup. Podcast at that point but we ran out of time and I jumped on a conference call and and we've had. We weren't able to get it done now. We're going to talk about surp- today and so get yourself something. Warm Cup of coffee or a glass of water because it's one of my last little while this is a. This is like storytime with uncle hair. If you know me you know I I sometimes get into telling stories and storytelling. I enjoy it. I I am known to be a bit of a Talker so I like. I like that kind of stuff. I also really enjoyed this. I'm going to call it a process in in I had a buddy of mine. I think talked about this in the last podcast had a buddy of mine that I talked to you earlier this week. And he really pointed out to me said you are a process guy. You'd like processes. I do the more I think about it. The more I realize it. He is right in so maple syrup part of the reason why I liked it so much is because it is a process and so we're GonNa Talk Maple Syrup today much like we talked blacksmith and we talk a few podcast back. We talked about blacksmith in the Arctic Blacksmith. In the fact that Stephan. I took a blacksmith in class I loved that as well For different reasons probably I but again the one of the big takeaways from that was man that is really a process and that process that it takes to do. Blacksmith in requires lots of skills. Summer mechanical some are like lifestyle skills. Patients is one of them the understanding that things can't get done real quickly. The think understanding that things are connected to each other in interwoven constantly. Well that was the point of Blacksmith. And podcast this is. We're talking to make maybe make making Maple Syrup and I have never done it before. And we posted a lot of it was shared quite a bit of it on her instinct. Centigram story but we've posted some stuff on his screaming posted some stuff on facebook. We shared some of the jars of maple at the end of the weekend. We shared some of the process of actually making it a lot on her story. More so than our posts but So I WANNA share the back end so I've never met never done it before. This is the first year we ever did. It and I think that was surprising that some people I think some people actually a lot of people reached out about it and we're thought it was cool. They they did it themselves. We shared stuff back and forth but Which was surprising to me But I'll get into that a little bit more but one of the things that we want the dog son. My wife is taking the baby for a walk. And we're going to let the dogs one Elliott Elliott. Gwen Taylor Taylor Guan. So as those guys move out we'll keep going. But so the the idea of Maple Syrup Making Maple Syrup is something I wanted to do for a long time but I never really knew much about it. I knew a lot. A lot of people did it. I thought a lot of people did it. Just based on observations driving down the road and the screaming blue bags on trees. And you see buckets on in the snow and you see you hear about see about it. I Love Maple Syrup like the actual product itself but quite honestly up until a few years ago. I I never had real maple Syrup Steph when Steph and I Got started dating in in living together and eventually married. She is into healthier stuff than I am. And she said and how they can't have that syrup it's high fructose Corn Syrup. And it's not you know you gotTa have real whatever and I thought and when I tried it you know I wasn't crazy about it. I thought I'm so used to log cabin Jemima. This is such a difference and it is. It is different different flavor. It's a different texture. It's a different consistency but as I in. She just made the decision that we are going to have real maple serpent house so I got used to it. I actually started to like it more. Preferred it and so that was like okay now. I realized there is a difference in it but that was it. I didn't really know much more about it. I knew other people made it because of seeing other people make. It didn't have any idea that people made it to the degree that they make it. I had no idea of what goes into it. I knew there was he tapped sap and you cook it down and often he got syrup but that was the amount of detail I understood. Well that got me thinking and then I went man. I think that'd be Kinda cool to do. I had no means of doing it. I didn't have maple trees but so the steps that it would've tooken me to do it myself. We're greater than what I wanted to overcome. So I decided you know what? We'll buy real maple syrup instead of buying log cabin and that was the extent of it while recently this last winter last. I shouldn't say that it was last some late late last summer early fall my parents purchased a cabin on. Similan Lake up near their house and we went up there and we gross on there quite a bit this last fall. If you follow along with us you know know that we did quite a bit of gross any this last fall we can use that as our base camp. And and there's acreage that goes with it and I noticed in the fall and really pretty callers. Everyone knows that the color people's so sugar maples. Especially right so I. I saw the colors I went man. There's a different dynamic of trees on this property than what I'm used to not used to having maples that close and see him driving home but I don't really look at them that much other than the color. I didn't really notice them except in the fall color. Well so I started. I had that the back of my head and I said well. Now there's property here that maples on it You know MAPLE MAPLE SYRUP BACK OF MY MIND. Well this winter. I listened to a book on Daniel Boone biography. Daniel was great and I found in that biography. One of the things Danny Boone. His family did was they made Maple Syrup and they made maple sugar show they were in Kentucky. They are selling this all kinds of great stories about him but one of the things. One of their main means of income at certain points in their lives was making sugar and they did it by tapping maple trees and they made Maple Syrup and so that was like the point that I said I'm GonNa do it. I just want to do it. I like Daniel Boone. Anything Danny balloons really cool. Like the stories. He was fascinating to me and I said you know what I'm doing it. We've got trees now. Let's do it so I talked to Steph about it and I mentioned it two hundred so thinking about doing this spring and she said just kind of laughed and said Okay and by God that was in December. I told her that well. Christmas scheme. And I got a Maple Syrup Kit from my wife and family ten taps ten little hoses a little booklet in a filter and so I said well there we go. We're in business now. I started studying. I went on Youtube and I watched like I started out watching like short little segments about making able Sir and then I got into more of them deeper ones longer. Ones documentary type stuff where these guys are talking about making Maple Syrup and they were all pretty similar but they were in more depth than what I knew based on driving down the road seen the stuff I was getting better inside. Look of it. So then I was like getting jacked up and yes. I'm definitely do well. Ten taps was going to be enough for me. I had to go to the store. I bought twenty four or twenty four so I ended up with thirty four taps this year which is plenty which is enough bought. Some hose bought some tools all the tools and information that I got was from these youtube videos that I watched so I did that. I talked to some people that I knew Maple Syrup. I went to the high school who we work with because the high school. I figured I gotTa have a. We Cook this stuff down. I knew how to even get the Syrup or get the SAP. Naga figure out how to cook. I went to high school. We work with the local high school for licking stick licking stick and other brand of ours. They weld all of our stakes. We make welded rebar stakes for anchoring down so we work with the local high school. They're shop class. And we pay them and they earn college tuition money by helping us fabricate stuff so we feel good about they feel good about it great relationship we've built all of our prototypes through the high school. We just love working with them while the shop teacher professor. I call him. He makes Maple Syrup well. The automotives professor makes Maple Syrup also good friend of mine so I started talking to those guys about it and I said well how can I cook this stuff down? Well Professor Max as well we build these. We build some cookers. We built SAPPHIRES. My buddy that's the auto guy. He had a sap cooker built by the High School. So so we went through. That sat down with the kids. We designed it. We got the size that we wanted. They built me this cooker now. It's no I'm serious into this. I gotTa Woodstove. I got stainless steel pan. I got all the stuff. I'm looking pretty serious at this point and I am getting real jacked up about it so whether starts to change for us starting to warm up. We know that this is going to happen so I went up north then. I tap the trees for the first time and I had never done it before but I had watched all these people do it on Youtube and I went. Well that's easy. I can see how this thing is easy so I went up north. I start tapping trees and some of them had a little bit of sap. Some of them didn't have much sap it was. I couldn't I wasn't sure if I was doing it right all of a sudden. I'm put in the position of now. Here's the drill in the tools. And here's the trees go to work and I'm going Jesus man. I better study this a little bit more. I ended.

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"syrup." Discussed on Side Hustle School

Side Hustle School

03:32 min | 2 years ago

"syrup." Discussed on Side Hustle School

"Don't user was a full-time all the time brew master at a Spokane Washington brewery? For many years. He also enjoyed making his own beer on the side and joined a homebrew club known as worked or warriors at the rotating tap in his spare time when he wasn't working on new concoctions and recipes. He spent his time hanging out at dry fly. distillery next door. He became friends with the team. At Dry I fly in chatted with him often about all things to expand their operations and open a tasting room. They decided they wanted to have a house. Ginger Beer anybody's not familiar. Ginger beer is a non alcoholic. Beverage made by fermenting ginger east and Sugar Dylan jumped on the opportunity and began testing out different flavors and ratios. Does he enjoy the process but hauling around large kegs to and from the distillery was exhausting. This got him thinking. What if you could make something that had the flavor flavor of Ginger Beer but without the weight or time commitment to bring it? He began to experiment. Further came up with a recipe for making a craft syrup that could be used Houston cocktails or mixed with Soda Water. He started with the Syrup. Composed of fresh ginger root lemon juice lime juice and brown sugar then instead of carrying around kegs eggs a finished product. You just need to add an ounce of Syrup to four ounces of Soda Water You can have a delicious beverage either non alcoholic whereas base for cocktails while it took some time to get the flavor profile perfectly. Distilled only cost him about a thousand dollars to cover his initial inspections commercial kitchen riddle and the cost of goods and supplies to facilitate production. The dry fly. distilling team was also impressed. With Dylan's creation. They encouraged him to take it to the next level by making it in larger batches. This required a lot of work in research. But Dylan Dillon was up for it. He learned that. In order to sell perishable items he would need to acquire certifications from the Washington Department of Agriculture. Each certification took about five weeks to a complete between studying and testing. But he wasn't a rush so for the next year he worked on them periodically all while continuing to protect his recipe. That hard work paid off the certifications indications allowed Dylan to improve the quality and integrity of his syrups so now side-hustle syrups and that is the name by the way hustle. syrups is officially in business. He started by selling at local farmers. Markets customers enjoy the flavor. He brought in a prophet right away with that profit. Human desire to share his products more widely. I version was only available as a refrigerated syrup and so was therefore it more limited in its distribution in order to make it more marketable heated to make it shelf stable and hand just what that came with another round of certifications determined to create the highest quality product. He once again spent time and some money to get those additional credentials else. That effort paid off as well as he is now able to sell side Hustle syrups to local retailers eager. To get the word out he began cold calling doing demos and approaching pushing stories directly. He would bring samples of his product and asked to speak to a buyer as a result of his persistence. He's been able to build solid relationships which in turn has increased distribution achieving his goal throughout the process. The folks that dry fly distillery that original inspiration have continued to support. They've used his products in some of their drinks. And they've just teamed teamed up to produce a new canned cocktail between the SYRUPS. Finally since completing his certifications dillon has expanded the flavors of his syrups to include Tonic Orange Vanilla Vanilla elder flower and Lemon lavender. He's also moving beyond cocktails seeing a market for the syrups to be used as tea and coffee. Flavoring Dessert. toppings take.

"syrup." Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

WIBC 93.1FM

02:21 min | 3 years ago

"syrup." Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM

"You can go out there and get the taste really the best maple syrup this weekend. It's maple syrup. Do say syrup or syrup Sarah syrup syrup. Yeah. Sarah, unless you're from Vermont, Sarah, and then it's just a heart attack syrup the classy way to say it. I mean, I'm looking at you of dual. I don't know is that the elitist way to say it, I just say Florence. Thank you. Well, it is maple syrup weekend here in the great state of Indiana. So all over the state, they're tapping trees, and you can come in. There's lots of pancake breakfasts, all you can eat pancake. Breakfasts all over the place. Hendricks county asked me to actually promote this one. Which is the Hendricks county pancake breakfast fundraiser at the MacLeod nature center on north Salem. I didn't know north Salem was in Hendricks county. Yes. I didn't. I always thought that was far far away. Oh, yeah. I guess you know, that kids go right there and to try west high school. So it's not that far. No. Well, there is there is that. And it goes from eight to two tomorrow so get out there and tapa tree. I will be at the flower patio show all weekend long on the expert stage, which is called the unilat- outdoor living say outdoor living stage with experts, and so combined seem y'all have are really, Indiana, tote bags and make sure you grab one of those. I do want to mention on Sunday for you animal lovers that the puppy and kitten shower going to be happening at the humane society. What's the coned humane? It's the puppy and kitten shower that sounds very exciting. What happens if that is actually an open house with all kinds of vendors and things happening? You can learn how to be a volunteer or foster parent for these wonderful animals tell my wife about that. We bought a zoo. Trust me. She loves puppies and kittens, and she would just bring every animal. I know just started building arc in the backyard. I really can't. We're starting to see more Los animals downtown because people have animals now living downtown. And so we've got a stray cat that lives in the garage here at Emma's communications, do and we've all worried about it. And we've set up little things for bear. But that's going to happen. And then a really cool event is very popular here each year, and it is called hot jazz for cool kids..

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