19 Episode results for "Syndergaard"

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 3)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

38:43 min | 2 years ago

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 3)

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I would beat his is that the gold one of the little one golden golden wouldn't be able to actually see the Nicole it sometimes the little short ones are fun. Oh Dr we surprising speaking a baseball. We're talking before about the dodgers and their interest in Noah syndergaard Manuel has thoughts on that what's up man well what Oh boy. I'll be great job feeling hey man you're the hardest working matt. Why don't you just in with us at Donald? Yes I was Christmas. Dude got you burn in the midnight oil over they don't you just they do a dance second. I was just in Vegas work to he was doing the same same office <hes> l.. You also worked for the world famous L._A.. Times and also love that article that you put out Sunday man good job buddy talk about it Oklahoma gummy in trouble able then we'll we'll put down to bed but what article I look forward to Sunday's my man <hes> I was really intriguing there. When you guys brought up the box of Noah Syndergaard 'cause I I was one of those guys up screaming from the mouth stops that we needed burland or two years ago and what a spot on thing you guys said it was marriage versus like dating and man we should have married very lander hurt? <hes> came Kate Upton Bubis so I don't know why we didn't but <hes> we gotta do it with Syndergaard Man. This guy is a stud. He's under two years more control a Friedman. If you're listening to it man do it that's enough. Manuel Manuel is Nicole around this definitely feel in the calls to say Rackham listen to Caspian in Los Angeles. He took us just to the point of we need to cough this call but he's right. Yes happy married Justin verlander. We will have a chip yeah. I mean it may be leading to an unhappy marriage unhappy divorce but the sex the first couple of years would have been great. You're always look what events confetti some water in in marriage at the end of the day. You're going to remember that ring one way or the other and you're GonNa remember that ring that you would've gotten with Justin verlander absolutely but you know that's in the past. We're trying to stay focused on the future in my thing with was syndergaard with door if you will has to do with what the dodgers need and what we don't want to have happened which is him any up and some sort of wiki Combo which Justin Verlinden Houston Houston also in a runny trying to trade for him. We've already let Kyko go to the freaking braves into embrace. Maybe a teammate interfacing postseason not quite sure but it's like you can't continue to allow other teams to get better while we're trying to do patchwork of some of our holds because we think we're good especially with the injury history Randy Andy I mean th Randy Handy AS Roma's really call you ready Jackson since seven A._M.. The next two hours it's the combination of a seven am I only had like a Bagel in the last twelve hours to eat in retired from Vegas and I was in Vegas like less than twelve sleep haunting tennis match yeah so I'm on four hours of sleep and like three glasses around the coors light red lights flashing behind you. The world's most refreshing beer makes our Friday show a lot that could happen. That's what I'm saying. The next two hours a lot can happen. You know what's going to happen. Though no more slander about how allergies aren't vacation. He's not working and Blah Blah Blah Woah. No I'm putting in work that is true over the last like maybe sixteen hours. You've been the hardest workman here so I'm I'm drinking is wrong and I'm not sure if pizza or something to eat some Food David on the fourteen actually got thoughts about what you were talking the bullpen David how argument good morning guys hey take us out so if we went out and got Noah syndergaard and put him in the rotation you know in the postseason normally go so four man rotation but imagine Kershaw Buehler review and Syndergaard that would be like to me my top four starting rotation move Ken to my eighty to the to the bullpen have him who serious or the seventh and eighth inning and coming with Joe Kelley or Kenley Jansen asset set them so they're not working hard. I think that'd be killer for us to David you in the moving richhill to the pen yeah yeah but he's also on the I oh right now who knows how he comes back off of that you know after being out for so long that's the thing with Richard appreciate the call David. He's always one blister away but the all our meal in particular he'll in particular has to blisters Kershaw has his back and reuse growing is like Ying Yang always getting hurt. I'm sitting here and I'm just like I know where Gruber you knew the shots out to you. Tommy have no idea what that meant but I understand your point. It's like I mean this is the healthiest the Israel's been in a while yes and he's been unbelievable like he is a CY young candidate but Ryu is there's always an injury. There's always an injury there and so my thinking has a lot to do with just having a little bit more protection because what you don't WanNa have happen is that one of our main guys ended up getting one of those injuries that we know we're going to come but it comes to inopportune time in the past. We've been someone you know lucky that Kershaw back as you know flared up like in the middle summer a game like seventy eight or something like that but what if this is different you know and I don't wish knocking on all the woods in the world. I don't wish that or any athlete period but the history is the history and if you have an opportunity to bringing someone under thirty with the stuff that Thawra has then. Why wouldn't you do that just to shore up what you know has been a predictable sort of thing happens to our team over the last forty four season and then here's the thing to let's say none of the injuries hap? Let's just say all these guys remain available. All season re doesn't have is typical injury. Kershaw doesn't deal with the back richhill no blisters you still bring a guy like syndergaard because just stack in the deck. I mean like when you when you're really really good. I mean you can make argument. The dodgers the best team in baseball you know other than seventh eighth inning bullpen. They don't really have any weaknesses but it's not necessarily always about filling a wide variety of needs. It's just about stacking the deck. Just putting everything anything in your favor as long my only concern would syndergaard would be okay. What do you give up for him and then does it become prohibitive from bringing in the type of bullpen arm that you also need and I don't what I don't WanNa see them? Do is just getting best guy available for the pen something where you don't have to give up much and you're just treating it like the bullpen being a crapshoot and I and I recognize bullpens are often a crapshoot Joe. Kelley last year was nails with the Red Sox Hamels left off the postseason roster like this stuff can fluky but I still want to see the dodgers trying to stack the stack the deck with the bullpen as well but if getting syndergaard doesn't get in the way of that go for do it both do it all. This is the year to do it all. It's it's it's like the Lakers did Nikolai to be a championship favorite. No we were being greedy yeah. They were being greedy. They I mean they were breeding away. That made sense are made sense but if you ever you say were without quite still win a championship with his roster the answer's yes just harder. It's just a little bit hard. This is the same scenario with or you don't need thor to win the world series if the dodgers but just make it easy smacking Ludi there you don't get any extra points for winning a championship. That was harder like it's the same championship either way like maybe start getting warriors territory where people discredit a little bit or whatever at the end of the day you think those guys care Oh of course awesome. Do you think Steph in clay durant obviously Garris but like staff clay dream on Andrea Gonzales Shaun Livingston the guys who were there for all of it. Do you think they care that. There's some people who say that. The warriors had it easier. They don't care no of course. Not In history to your point really won't care no because the further we get away from it. The more you become too stats and less context. Oh yeah I mean like low. We talk about you know the super team air on these guys wanting it easier. Whatever like showtime was a super WBUR team? Those Celtics were super teams. They just happened. I guess a little more organically but they were still unfair to the rest of the League. I mean you don't think the rest of legal showtime really you had three hall of famers in Boston Celtics in a guy who WanNa Finals M._v._p.. He is a starting point guard like the rest of the League thought that was unfair. They weren't looking around like well. Competitive Balance and you know that just happened organically. They're like dude. Are you kidding me. How does that happen or like when the Lakers trade for like Michael Thompson right with what they already ready have their like? Are you kidding me so it's if I'm if I'm the dodgers and I've already had the first two years disappointing endings for different reasons. If that guys available you gotta you gotTa kick the hell out of that tire if not for you and and this to me is the more important part if not for you then do it for the prevention of him landing somewhere else and you having to face that Thomas Finley actually hitting us up on twitter they're making a good point review and hill are not under contract next year so trading for thors also a long-term move. That's cost efficient syndergaard's still under a really good contract yeah so like you can actually be building for now and for down the road if if you bring in Syndergaard and isn't he'll forty thirty nine thirty eight hundred fifty five Komo. He's not that bad. He's old though he's wise. No I mean he is. He's chronologically old. He's a veteran I mean you're not go to trash richhill. When I'm drinking rum? I'm pretty sure as he is getting after these is I'm indifferent the hell out of rich hair. I'm not being an aide just when I point out rich hills actual age like I mean I'm looking ended up right now. He's rich hill is he's almost forty thirty nine right now like he will be forty next year that is not ages to point out that forty is old for starting pitcher like that's not ages. That's real to me. It's just you know what forty you're never too old to do right. I have a feeling granite see week is finally here. Join US in Rams Training Camp Tomorrow at U._C.. U._C. Irvine to kick off O._C.. Week we'll be broadcasting live from four P._M.. To Seven P._M.. With special hosts Andy Cam Manetzky DEMARCO. This is your chance to get your hands on limited edition O._C.. We gear and AAA discount and rewards prizes. I travel gift cards to best Western family four packs to Birch Aquarium and gift cards to norms restaurants. GotTa love norms breakfast enormous. Nothing like it save every day on dining shopping movie and attraction tickets plus more find all your member discounts at triple. We've Janice on the Social Media Janice Shaky ki-tae kid you pick the music for rejoin got up and dancing. He's dancing actually that core Zaid Red White the little Oh bit <hes> the music from talking a lot of Komo around him so far. This is proof positive that the Koloa works it does work. You'RE GONNA cronk no does is I'm good loose loose Friday. Go back and band smoke a blunt. Then is on Oh yeah yeah. Do we have blunt not a spot. Is there a sponsor sponsor men men sponsor. What's in the box? It's legal. It is Lee tell my son it is legal for dummy judgy me. It's like walking by the bar in Santa Glass of wine. You cannot go a block in this city without seeing either green cross or some type of shop like the floodgates opened. I'm assuming we're happened. After prohibition was defeated. All those walls flipped over yeah go on Bam. We've been here on long basically just people the literally in the case of prohibition coming out from the shadows because every everybody knew the fans yeah you know in Orange County where we're about to go for E._S._p._N.. See we still is sort of it's not there yet so you still need to find it. You need to find the places and it still has always like that not seen in pulp fiction. Were John Travolta Sam Jackson. They're breaking down what you can and can't do an Amsterdam. He'd shirts care around but it's illegal for them to search you like that sort of thing kind of it's also like what are the bars where you got a knock on the thing. What did they call? It's yeah it's kind of like a speakeasy. Be Easy thing where you walk up and there's like a guard there and he's like hey man what's going on in my hey bro and then he's like okay. Go ahead backgrounds yeah exactly no way. The music is really loud when you go in and you're just it's like a you know that's like so five years ago but in Orange County it's still sort of that way. They're catching up slowly but surely Dan Petar show has a tweet. That's really interesting to me. Are you shocked that Tim Kurkin has never had a corn dog. Shut up Labrador. Ah I mean I'm a little surprised just in the sense that curcumin is spent his entire life in baseball stadiums so you would figure just I mean hot. Dogs are synonymous with baseball like at some point just by Osmosis you end up having have corn dog. When was the last time you had one? I don't like hotdogs. Say Tim Courage in and you don't like hot dollar like hotdogs. Who did you don't like how do you not like hotdog never liked them even a little kid I didn't have you ever had the Hebrew national? Well see that's GonNa Change everything you need. A Hebrew National Hotdog I recently as an adult tried it again the national hotdog or just a hot dog dog not no I don't I don't I like sausage your communists. I like sausage who doesn't but I do not like hot dog. What about a brought? I like a Bra okay. I mean pretty pretty much every as brandon marketing no they taste different they taste well of course like brought worst hotdog. Do not taste the same no they do not a little bit of rum dodger dog. Have you had a dodger yeah. I actually because all the years growing. I wonder how they're not good all good. Actually I mean I hear a lot of people I knew. A lot of people say like people who like hotdogs if they think dodge dogs overrated enough. I'm a lot of sewer you're. I don't like him periods on the wrong guy listen. Here's the deal if the soggy lit esteemed salad hot dog than yes I agree with but then I eventually discovered the grilled ones in the tasty but you gotta like the taste of an actual hotdog. Although I just don't like the taste brown mustard on their we'll catch but you can do that with the brought a lot of that but if you're with the broad with the brought our grab right off the grill burn my fingertips and just start eating that is the best way to do it. That's the best best way piping hot. They don't need anything you WANNA piping hot brought. It's the perfect they're hot dogs. We gotTA JAZZ IT UP. I will say that there's a reason I mean you're compensating. Let's be honest Hebrew national hotdog you literally can eat it just by itself in the bunt I or sometimes just a snack on your just snacking hot dog in the middle of the day not their Hebrew national their kosher. Now I get I mean it's it's not it's not a religious thing for your right but not for me specific black by the way that question up last hour. It's not that I can think black no. I'd have to give I'd have to more. I'd have to give it more thought I would have to give it a little bit more thought. As far as the honorary goes I mean this this going back to Quentin Tarantino by the way in a Tarantino's got once upon a time in Hollywood released today. I'm actually I think I'm going to try to see it today. I am so behind a movies. I haven't seen a lion king yet. I have not my my wife and my daughter went and saw my wife actually liked it more than my daughter for what it's worth Earth has that power beyond say that is not beyond saying when you gonNA play Brown skin girl by the right talked about this playing a little bit later on. That's what you said two days ago that into I'm not into this new lion king. I feel weird because I missed the old I loved the old lines Rubio lanc yeah disappear. I used to run in the house and I was like a little Simba. Israel in Fontana wants to weigh in on the corn dog hotdog thing Israel you there also Israel Israel. That's Ken in Beverly Hills. You hit the wrong one. Okay candidate Yo. I'm looking right now. It's the right one. Who are you Kenner? Israel Israel was that rather though guys I was gone excellent <hes> forty four. I've never had a car UH I don't even like the way the smell but I work. My Dad worked for a company back in two days still exist that <hes> make hotdogs and hands and all that and I shouldn't like hotdogs but I still eat them because I know how to make them but yeah corn dogs are are. They just smell discussing. I don't know how the people eat them. Actually when I was a kid would trade him for like applesauce trade a corridor for applesauce I did. I'm sorry but I did Dude I. I don't even like mustard so just to go wall. WHOA okay now? That's a bridge too far Israel. I have my when I eat hot dogs. It's with Ketchup A._O.. An onion just say male he's wrong. That's a good job. Israel yeah sometimes a male's nice on their l._v.. I've put me on my Pastrami and I don't put mustered. WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA hold aren't as official on this? You are out of bounds to the hat order. It plain put a little bit of male ketchup. Oh Dude let me tell you right now man like the this. We're now into my territory. I know what which I I know what I'm talking about guys. I know what I'm talking. I've actually converted Pastrami connoisseur that we eat it with mustard and I told him to try at one time with catch up in Male. Oh absolutely might be a Russian vodka appreciate the call. You're not an American. That is not how you do it. That is absolutely not how you do it. I speak as somebody who's people. We brought this thing into and do you did. It's I don't know if we brought it over. We certainly popularized it in America in the homeless book. Yes absolutely you do not put catch up on Pastrami. That just sounds offensive. That is a cardinal sin cigarette. Your Collard Greens screens that you do not do that Ken in Beverly Hills back once talk a little quiet magic I hey have you had a corn dog. They narrow corridor guy. I'm kind of a Nathan's hot dog guy from Brooklyn. Okay okay wherever it didn't want hotdogs there. If you went to Nathan back and trust me. I don't like from you Andy Listen. I have a point about something that was hot button topic yesterday six. I think a lot of people have underestimated Hawaii Leonard Machiavelli and tendencies that they're saying that something Magic Johnson said <hes> you know screwed up the deal whatever I just think Hawaii played everybody audie while he was waiting to put the this Paul George could get out of his contract and as soon as he did that you just jumped on top of that and I'm sure he was planning that in advance the same way that durant and re we're talking about going to the nets straight year beforehand and everyone keeps blaming it on the Lakers. I just think he played played them. You know like a Harpsichord while he was waiting to make sure that Paul George could get out of his contract so I think it's very unfair to blame magic Johnson saying something aww whatever because I think he had hoping clan and they underestimated him again. Appreciate the call a Harpsichord yes I now I am of the camp and I've been saying this especially to our to my co host Travis that we shouldn't conflate not talking to the media with not talking you know that just because he's not in front of cameras on social media talking John or making his thoughts knowing all day every day doesn't mean that he doesn't have also today's not talking to people. It's just means that no reporter has gotten him now Chris Hanes and Rachel Nichols they both have been able to sit down with them now but during the off season he wasn't doing a lot of talking and during the regular season he doesn't do a lot of talking and that's fine. Can I do think he made a boss move but I don't think he made a boss move to the degree in which he decided to purposely play the Lakers in Toronto Raptors he made a boss move because he wanted to do what's best for him and he didn't allow other people to influence his decision getting drunk on playing drunken. I feel attacked. I am not drunk. I know you're just doing good on a Friday. It's of course like Friday. We got your genre going to Andrea little all songs about drinking. GonNa play <hes> Eric Church Deck Daniels. You know that's all I do not it's a beautifully written song which uses the euphemism of being in a bar fight except he's in a fight with a guy named Jack Daniels. Oh and Jack Daniels kicks his ass again. That's his struggle awesome. Okay I feel like I've been with a fight with Jack Daniels this entire summer. He does what it says. Though every country song is right winning Jack Jackson Winning Jackson undefeated Jack is pretty undefeated you get Johnny. Janis undefeated on each side. He's pretty good. You ask ask Jerry Jones. WHO's winning that battle well? He loves him some Johnny Walker Blue so we're trying attract down Sodano. I want to get him on but apparently Janna says the fire alarm just went out and his Jim so okay go into his car this hold on a second so he pulled the alarm so you wouldn't have to do the interview the Chievo we're efforting any of the Cheetah Sheva move it is achieve Chievo move. Its achieve a move where you're using the gym as you're about the Chiba move. It's the story he was telling yesterday. So Mason Greg their producer in Ireland have texting somehow Sodano got on there and you know this is so sodano somehow they didn't realize Saddam was on that text threat and it's confusing an iphone and a bunch of people so they started texting yesterday morning about the show well. Why don't we do this well? Let's do this all don't worry about. It may still be five of all sodano notices this but doesn't say anything in the texture. That's such achieve us. I'M GONNA defend and Sodano a little bit just like his fault. He ended up in this conversation. That's when you say hey guys I'm here instead of instead of letting them just text back and forth and then they realize he's they're like Hey Georgia on the threat. He's like Oh yeah. That's something was wrong. I the point you're wondering okay are they. GonNa talk about me at all like you know like you start getting a glimpse into your earned the name well. It's how you are in the name but you could also say it's an Intel Chris will tell you something. That's one thing about me that I'm very very very proud of. I am pretty transparent. <hes> pretty transparent yeah I was just I just you know it's just as an enemy to like I would agree. I've known you awhile. I would agree with that. I just if I like you you know I don't you know I don't try utterly play the Games and things like that because I was just don't think a week again Q. The music Oh are you saying this too so Wednesday July thirty I L Z and Sodano will be throwing out the first pitch at Angel Stadium. I think it's time this summer at least for a moment in time for George Sodano Achieva to come home. Come Home George to the morning show. I've movies. They're Sodano. I kind of like like my new neighborhood. I gotta be honest. No offense you. That's a nice neighborhood. He likes to sleep in. I do like the and by the way in to Chris Morales fashion of course he alters gives alternative facts <hes> with that situations situations yesterday with Mason. I was dropping off my kid. I left my phone in my car is I'm walking up to class and for summer session or whatever and get back in his twelve text messages and I thought someone died basically so by the time I saw it is when I responded. I'm like Hey Yeah Greg Book Magic Johnson and Michael Jordan today he was thinking morale is finally got it so you saying there was some context left out of the conversation that we just had just a little bit I mean if you just walked into your car and and your phone was there. You saw twelve messages from people from your office. When did you think something really bad happened? That was my initial reaction. I'm trying to figure out why are you leave your phone your car now want to break into your cards to your phone just to teach your lesson well. That can be true too but I did leave it. Just because I was running now the other issues who is I was actually running late this summer session for the last day of my kids summer session and that was probably the reason I left my phone and my car because I was just scrambling to get her up in time. Kids kids lead to things being hectic. We've all raised. Children like your life is hectic when they're that young yeah that young. My Life is still hectic. You know my son not to get into the weeds facetime. He's apartment honey right now. You're easy graduated from College said Dad they said is exposed brick and his place it was the seller it's not exposed brick. It was the foundation of the apartment building. What's in Keyshawn in your kids? Your kids facetime for that. He Sean keyshawn junior facetime when he wants an Uber. I mean it's all thing they're pretty helpless children so Sodano. Have you ever tried Colo- rum. I have not okay you will see week great sponsor the company. I have the samples though Amanda gave me some samples when they brought him by the office but yeah I I love me. Some rotten elsie opened up his sampler at seven A._M.. Nice Nice well. That's very very tasty. Yeah you can enjoy it. He's doing some real sampling to village. Which one did you have because there are you saying one nestle cute all okay? He's on his way I mean I figured I think maybe the coffee ones in the morning. There's that coffee looking one. I'm going to say that for later when I need to pick myself back up little boost before the gym so next Wednesday at Angel Stadium U._N._l._V. Throwing out the first pitch both have angels jerseys now elize the seven year the ten Sodano tells us the ten but that's okay. Are you excited for this. Are you going to throw. Are you going to catch you're. You'RE GONNA Pitch <hes> I'm assuming we're both pitching and I know where you're going and <hes> I'm not gonNA take debate but <hes> either way. Yeah I'm going to the audience. I asked the audience on the show. Should I just get it failed you know and make sure to just Kinda pinpointed little Greg Maddux or should I try to like wind up and try to Roger Clemens the thing and everyone says because I'm Latino why should throw heat that that just goes hand in hand so I may end up hitting the backstop but you know whatever I guess. I'm so thankful honestly that we're pitching together because they're very few black people in Major League baseball now. There's no pressure on me to represent anything there there isn't that is absolutely true as long as you get it there. I'll see you show up. Particularly black pictures like there really aren't a lot of black pitcher. Just tell me about. I'm don show Willis and keeping that Chew I. They won't know that'd be like you know. <hes> you know that's it to go left. The in that situation can throw you. Do you know what I might throw lefty so I have an out in case I don't get it. They're going well a variety. I was just trying something new in front of the home crabby symmetrical to if you're on Georgia's left and he's throwing with his right you throw with your left and just got like the Brian throwing the I know that you've through a first pitch in Detroit wants right. I remember you showing the video. Yeah there was a lot of pressure situation racial because it was a home game right right but through a breaking ball and it was it was a strike and it was it was perfect. I probably would've struck out barry bonds at his heyday so would you are you throwing. Are you going to go with another breaking ball. I don't want tobacco knowing I'm up to two seen fastball left-handed meth handed yeah. I have a question for you like how are you going to deal with Raj and Chris and a house at the same time Oh very easily. We just talked about it. This is wrong that they're giving out now. It's going to be amazing achieve I I. I think it signed for George to come home to the morning show Hi. This is a nice run for a year George. You WANNA come back. You went to set the alarm and come back man. You know as much as I do this you. I don't miss you that much to wake up early. I gotTA BE ON. I love you but not that much George and you know what it was just you L Z and he but I gotta deal. Morale is forget it dealbreaker. They were happening show. Oh you're off today right. I am up today. It's a little mini mini vacation as we do. You know who sit in in no idea. I think been lines for how that's a tradition unlike any other George get back to your workout. Okay all right. The alarms are going back to you training that Sodano the chief train and keep training hi way the the difference in restraint between Sodano who still has his original Colo- box versus L Z who got his box like an hour and a half ago and it's almost emptied. I didn't want it to spoil to- right in that box. Yes he did a few black Jack Daniels kick my aunt's again last night. This is my cut eric. Church is awesome concert staples few weeks months ago. There was a May right yeah. He was springsteen. Ask I know Bruce in the first hour springsteen ask an amazing concert. He's awesome. You really are big country. Guy Like you love country country to country. It's like you Jimmy Butler. I'm you know what I love. The high profile black guys representing country. It's a storyteller and if you just listened like lettuce play a little bit more yeah the memory of the Tail Lights Guy. He's Kryptonite Jack Daniels kick my ass again last night does their church needed help. Song feels like a cry for help for heroes website. He's selling thousand dollar boots. He's okay they might the boots. I were that a lot. They were expensive but eight thousand dollars boots. You know everything's Okay when you're selling thousand dollar boots on your well. Actually what you really know is okay when you're purchasing thousand dollars like selling them is one thing actually being the purchaser. That's when you truly no. It's okay you know it was really funny. Is that a lot of a lot of really popular country artists like a lot of popular rappers. You know they may have started where the lyrics referring to but they're at a place now behind gated communities in property but they're still selling selling the same story and it's like to you know Chris Points like you seven thousand dollar boots. Let's calm down now under struggles that you're going through financially anyway. Yeah I mean that's like you know especially like you look at. You're talking about with rappers like you know the the guys early on in Gangsta rap like they're like fiftyish now. A lot of them live in comfortable like there's like do the hell you mad about right. I mean like you can be mad about like the general state of certain things you know certain politics whatever but like there is a degree of your really comfortable. You're like your life is pretty good right now. If you have to go through a gate to get to the house good unless of course negate referring to us and you know what I'm so mad about speed mad and email I can hotdogs awesome on corn. Dogs sort of <hes> dog Weiner product killing <hes> in L._A.. Wants to weigh in on that Kellen. How are you guys on Corn Dogs? If you haven't had the corn dog at Disneyland you're missing the out on one of life's greatest pleasure foremost why <hes> so if you go there try but <hes> as part two of my question is <hes> I've seen a lot of chatter like bleacher the report and M._l._b. trade rumors about Noah syndergaard in the dodgers showing interest in him. Now I feel I feel a lot of deja Vu from like twenty seventeen when Burland or was available and the dodgers decided to go and different direction and nocco go after one of the best you know targets at the deadline now if the dodgers go for it. Who Do you think in how much they would have to give up to get a twenty six year old right handed the control hundred miles an hour well? I don't know if they want any player. Necessarily that's on our roster as much as they want the ability to contain to rebuild their franchise with Youth and I know it sounds weird because as you Sony Twenty six he is still youth but I think they decided to hit the internal final reboot button. They know they're not good. They they know by definition. They're not good and that syndergaard himself isn't enough to me. I mean it's one of the things about baseball and it's part of the reason appreciate the call him that I that I I don't get as has attached to prospects in baseball. Even recognizing there are some you hang onto obviously the dodgers over the years had decisions to make about a guy like cody bellinger and they decided to basically make them untouchable and it paid off by-in-large. I don't get attached to prospects aspects because baseball like individual players. Individual starpower is overrated <hes> because baseball you don't have the opportunity as one guy to affect the game enough on a regular basis like if you're take my trout route you know the best player in baseball certainly vulnerably certainly the best position player in baseball over the course of game. He'll he'll get like five at bats a handful balls hit to him and that's it right. That's all that happens opens right like there's the overwhelming majority of a game Mike Trout doesn't affect which is I mean I remember in two thousand eleven. The dodgers had Clayton Kershaw who won the side that year was definitely the best pitcher in the national the League arguably the best pitcher in baseball and Matt Kemp that was the year he came in second for the M._v._p.. Voting <hes> behind Ryan Ron and exactly no matter how you feel about it right Matt Kemp was arguably the best position player in baseball. Certainly the best position player or up there in the National League dodgers didn't make the playoffs that year like they were three games above five hundred with those two guys on the same team it is speaks to why depth is so much more important in baseball and just you know shoring up any type of potential weakness then the individual starpower that you have no baseball to me out of all the sports is the is the time in which the best team collude a series yeah typically and basketball. You know if you plan seven games. The best team is going to win that series but in baseball you could be the best team. Record is the best team in terms of how you been performing me all season long and into the playoffs and you run into a series and two or three guys you know hit that normal stretch wish they can't get ahead and you're out yeah I mean the the timing of a slump in baseball during the playoffs. It's brutal. Yes absolutely so you need depth because you kidding certainly expect might trout to go through a two for fifteen streak as great as he is in about two Fifteenth Street happens to happen during the postseason. He's fortunately it's also with Mike tr the only time he's gone refers you get one here. I think it was a home run homerun. You know what you WanNa hit a home run in life anti yes. Maybe you just need to get a whole lot great football even better beer in warm sand and you need.

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"You're listening to the Gordon Damer show podcast on ninety eight point seven ESPN, obviously lots to do on this chilly Saturday morning. The high school football report comes up at eight o'clock. So while lots to do before then hop on board, the number, you know, one eight hundred nine one nine ESPN, and you can hit me up on Twitter acoording Damer, but what you need to know for this Saturday. Well, I guess where we should start is the Knicks really pulled one out of the fire last night lost the pelicans one twenty nine to one twenty four and let let's be honest. If you're watching the game last night things looked a little shaky at times looked a little dodgy looked like the next might actually find a way to win on the road. No less goof dodged a bullet, though. Even though they led by as many as nineteen even though they lead by I think it was eleven in the fourth quarter is definitely double digits in the fourth quarter. Let's say eleven just for argument's sake. But luckily, thankfully, New Orleans took over from their took. Over down the stretch, and they pull out the win by five one twenty nine to one twenty four. Let's just talk about Anthony Davis for just a second. Anthony Davis is like when you're playing a video game for the first time. You really don't know what you're doing. But you know, that those like one thing that you can definitely do. That's Anthony Davis like if you're playing like an NBA game or Madden. And you have that one guy who can definitely score every time. He touches the ball. Or you have that one guy on defense who could just wreck the game. That's anthony. Davis finished forty three points, seventeen rebounds, five assists last night and huge game for him. So the next lose. So now four and twelve on a year, four straight losses. And as far as the schedules concern coming up next, they have our Landau. I think that one's on the road. But that, you know, the next don't have that many winnable games. You would think that are Landau would be one that they would might be in for a while. But after that Portland, Boston New Orleans again, Memphis. This there at Detroit there at Philly, Milwaukee that takes you all the way to December. So it's not like right now at four and twelve things are about to get any better anytime soon. So what are the takeaways? Well, I think the big takeaways the takeaway you've had probably all season. And I know it's one that I have as a knick fan. I hope they don't win another game this year. I'd almost rather. They try to find a way that they could forfeit a couple of the ones they already have. If you're asking me could I lose some of the winds. They already have or win more. No, I don't wanna win anymore games. This year has taken away usually the Knicks have that false hope part of the schedule. Like, they have that why one three in a row, you know, what eastern golfers now, then good this year. They've taken that away, and they have gotten right to the badness and over the last six years, I guess it's not just the Knicks have been bad. The problem has not been that. Well has been that. But the real problem is is they've not been bad enough. Unfortunately, that's the way it is. Except for twenty fourteen where they got the third pick in the draft and won seventeen games for the season. That's been the one bright spot in terms of moving forward. Winning twenty eight games in here is the worst position to be in. And unfortunately, if it's twenty. One wins. If it's twenty five wins of it's thirty one. The Knicks have been in that position way. Too often, I would much rather you're going to be at thirty wins. I'd rather be at five. So if you're asking me win twenty eight or win four I'll take four every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Especially in a year with this draft. We if you maybe ever Washington college basketball yet, you really don't have to to know about the the the Duke freshman, either Zion Williamson RJ Barrett or other guys Cam reddish or was the Zere little on North Carolina. I mean, there's a ton of guys that will likely be in the draft this year, and I don't want when the draft comes around as maybe as painful as it is to live through the regular season. I don't wanna be in a position where the Knicks are picking ninth or the Knicks are picking eighth. I wanna do everything I can to stack the odds in my favour that by the time the draft rolls around the Knicks have done everything possible to be picking in the top three. What is the point of going through another season much like last year where you're trying to ride veterans to some twenty six twenty eight win season. What's the point? You are where you are. So the fact that you don't have Kristaps Porzingis this year, you know, what you are. It's about developing talent. And look this as I said before and I'll say again, I'll say it all year long. This should be if the Knicks do it, right? And that's still very much a question of whether they will do it. Right. But if they do it, right? This should be the last time for a while. The Knicks are in this position of being in mid-november. And you know, the season is going absolutely no place, but the draft lottery between free agency this after this year's over getting porzingas back and the draft which will involve a lottery pick again, you should be able to put yourself in a good position to move forward. After this year, and for all people will say, well, what about the young players, Gordon? They should be developing the young. Well, by all means, I'm not saying don't develop Rodham out, you got a full year. You, you know, it's like one can you show up? When can you make it? I don't whatever you want. You have a full year of games where winning is not the goal, or at least should not be. So go ahead, and develop whatever you give them as much playing time as you want. It's it's funny to me when you see stories about David Fidel shaking up the starting you can shake up the starting lineup all you want. You can bring the guys in off the bench earlier, you guys on the bench could start it. That is not going to matter. It doesn't matter. They don't have enough talent to win. I would just say about all the people who are getting all worked up about the young talent. Keep in mind, the answer to most question marks in sports, generally know, like if you have a bunch of question marks on your team almost never does it turn out that most of those question marks turned into positive answers. And for the crowd says, well, the Knicks always lose. What do you talk about? They've been terrible for twenty years. They've lost five years in a row. Was it fifteen of eighteen well, what's the other choice? What's the other? You know last year you had Jeff hornicek trying to maximize wins. How did that work out? It didn't. Use the rules of the game to your favor as much as possible and the rules of the game in the NBA favor. When you're in a position like the Knicks tanking to get his high draft pick in our lifetime more than likely. The NBA will eventually do away with the draft lottery. Just because so many teams are not interested in winning during the season. So if that does happen. I mean take advantage of it while you can and right now is the time to take advantage of it mainly because you have no other option. So the Knicks lose last night to the pelicans. I think wasn't Latin. No, I wasn't here last week. So it was two weeks ago. We were talking about you know, where the Knicks stood. And I said, look they'll never be back at five hundred this year, you want you don't want to be back at five hundred this year. And now they are four and twelve and they have this is usually the time of the year where you have a little bit. You know, things are going, well, you know, the Eastern Conference this year. And it's almost like that conversation is now flipped to the nets before the Carris lavar injury. Hey, you know, what? The nets might be able to make the playoffs, and you know, what in the Eastern Conference. They might simply because there are not that many teams really competing for the playoffs in the eastern. There's like four or five teams that you know, for sure have. No shot of making the playoffs. So then you're really talking about two or three teams from one spot. Now, the lavar injuries certainly hurts the nets. But at least they'll they should be in the running. They should be in the running. So you can talk about the next one eight hundred nine one nine ESPN, but the other big story. Has been focused on the baseball could Noah Syndergaard beyond the trading. Block Ken Rosenthal of the athletic reporting that the Mets and Padres have had some talks, or at least there's some interest on the San Diego side about Noah, Syndergaard that the two sides it actually talked before the trading deadline this past year, obviously, nothing out worked out there. And he reports that he doesn't know whether or not the Mets are willing. But that would seem to be a fit. Syndergaard under team control for three more years. He's basically gonna make around six million dollars this year. And I think the general reaction of met fans has been well no way much rate knows. We gotta fix the offense. We gotta get a catcher we gotta get a first baseman. We've got to get a left fielder. We gotta get a bullpen. We've got to get a close. Well, here's the thing. And it kind of came up this week with the Jacob degrom being named the National League Cy Young the overwhelming reaction to that has been for met fans. Well, now's the time. You gotta lock up. Jacob degrom. He's the National League Cy you got to sign this guy too long to you gotta show some commitment new long term contract for a guy who still under team control for two more years in his thirty years of age and is coming off by far you'd have to imagine his greatest season of his career. Well, here's the thing. If that's true. And that's what's if you want that to happen, right? You wanna walk up? Jacob degrom. What do you think the chances are that they're going to walk up? Both degrom and Syndergaard. I think it's unlikely they'll even lock up the ground. But let's say they do do you think that they're going to lie all of a sudden they're shooting the locks off the wall at money for you money brewster's millions. I think it's probably pretty unlikely that they're going to sign both those guys, and I'm not saying that the deal would happen or that it really makes all that much sensor that you know, has really a realistic chance of happening. But you know, Padres do have the best farm system in baseball. And the problem with the Mets as they are in terms of talent and the age of their talent there kind of a win now team, especially with the payroll restrictions that they put in place for themselves. Like, if all of a sudden, they're going to change the payroll structure of their team while okay, fine. Then maybe they can handle whole lot more talent through free agency or. Or whatnot. But unfortunately, in terms of the actual talent that they have in terms of age not necessarily how they perform. They're kind of a win now team. They're locked into a lot of these guys. And they're not a win now team. Or have not been the last couple of years. So it's kind of tough and the one other thing about the degrom thing about signing him long-term. It's amazing to me the amount of met fans who are in favor of that. I did it's emotional right? I mean, but you don't generally shouldn't make motion decisions when you make a motion decisions a lot of times you make mistakes. But you've seen how fragile starting pitching can be on your team. I'm not asking you to scout. You know, some other team the Oakland A's I'm saying on your own team. You've seen how fragile starting pitching can be. And what confidence do you have say the Mets do go out and sign Jacob degrom right now to this long term contract extension. What confidence do you have that? The Mets will go out this off season and then supplement that with other signings. I don't have a whole lot of confidence. They're going to do that even without signing. Jacob degrom. But what confidence would you if they do that that they would then? Go out and say, all right. Let's get a catcher, let's get, you know, fill in all these other holes that they have one eight hundred nine hundred ninety s SPN one eight hundred nine one nine three seven seven six coming up. We'll get to your phone calls gotta touch on the Yankees, and the Manny Machado pursuit certainly seems like boy the pursuit is on chases on. And it certainly seems like the Yankees are hot and heavy for Manny Machado. So he can get into that. The giants have game against the buccaneers. And in your heart of hearts giant fans with what you've seen so far this year. What a win be a good thing. So we'll get into that too. Lots to do is we take you up till eight o'clock high school football report, then it is the Gordon Damer show ninety eight point seven FM ESPN New York now back to the Gordon Damer show on ninety eight point seven ESPN. Well days of giving starts this Monday in the Michael Kay show. Your chance to win five thousand bucks tickets to the hottest holiday shows and VIP access to the case shows holiday party on Friday, December fourteenth, just be listening. Three PM our five PM hour all starts Monday, November nineteenth only on the Michael Kay show and ninety eight point seven FM ESPN, New York. So laid out my thoughts on the Knicks and the Mets on this report about Noah Syndergaard being on the trading on the trade block, or at least that the Padres would have some interest. Look when the Mets have had the past season that they've had this is a pretty good off-season. You've already gotten Jacob degrom to win the National League Cy Young. And now you have some things to kind of look forward to a lot of times you get into these seasons. Nixon a perfect example is not a whole lot to look forward to in the actual seasons. We have to look forward. And at least this year the off season now here for the Mets you have some things to look forward. I don't know if trading Noah Syndergaard is what you're going to look forward to. But this idea that the Mets, well, you know, you hear from met fail. All no, I'm not trading him. Well, if you're not going to significantly increase the payroll, how do you plan on improving the team outside of giving up something to get something? It's not like you have a whole lot of marketable in terms of trades. What are the marketable pieces that you have to deal? At least Noah Syndergaard is one of those pieces. And for the for the crowd of well, they have to also a little bit of this not only did have to lock up the gras, but they have to lock up. Syndergaard is if those two guys have been the same Syndergaard can't get through a season without you know, being on the of the D L. Let's see him do that a couple, you know, couple of years in a row. Maybe let's go to the phones. One eight hundred nine one nine ESPN one eight hundred nine one nine three seven seven six. We'll start things off with Bobby in Staten Island. Bobby your first up on ESPN, New York, more and going how you doing Bobbie? Hey, listen, saw local this morning. I heard your whole thing about the Knicks. How there's like those balloon fans that accurate at this year. It would be a change. I'm not go. I am. I have been wireless fans. I got a little hyped up. But I watched the first game of Duke, and I I was blown away by that game RJ Barrett. Diane on Williams like at a Nick fan, you watch that you're just is explode because just imagine in a knick cer- could be a game changer, and the one real thing I could have out this is into the summer. The whole thing is a little whole Kevin Durant where he's gonna go. I know Nick, the kind of like a real hard of a long shot, but on the next in Vom talking to Kevin Durant like within you look at the goals. They warriors they're breaking apart right now because they don't know who the leader is they don't want you to be a leader it dream out the drama you come to the Knicks. We have a poor thing it now. And then we're bringing wanted to do players. I'm sorry von Kevin Durant. I say opportunity where I could be a leader for a young and at like explosive team, and I'm just take that chance right away. Just trying to go on a nother wrinkle Brian either break that apart. But I mean, I with Durant. It almost is like to me in terms of the Knicks. I I don't really. You know, what the Knicks can tell the rant that will convince them to come here. I think if I think it's a long shot, and maybe I'm jaded because of all the non of, you know, former players that are all known the Knicks are going to have an he'll have interest in your he wants to come to me. I've heard that a thousand times, and maybe Durant will be different. Maybe it will. I don't think. So if I had to put my money on it. I'd say probably go someplace else, but it's almost if he does wanna come here. It's because of other things about New York. I don't really think it has anything to do with the talent itself on the it's not like he's saying it's not like he's checking the box score and seeing hey, how's Frank Neale Akina developing? I think that if he wants to come to New York, it's going to be because his business interests are best served in New York, or you know, his management teams that tells them that, you know, New York would be the best place for for your posts NBA career, whatever I don't think it has much to do with the actual talent on the Knicks per se, but it's not just about Kevin Durant. Like, the Knicks will be able to add a free agent after this year and. Hopefully, they can put themselves in position to do that better than they have in the past. But it's just I it's just about. Doing what you're doing? And keep you keep doing it year in and year out winning twenty five to thirty one games. You know, you're kind of this current regime is kind of set themselves up for the after this season. There should be a large leap forward, but twain, the free agency and the draft and and getting porzingas back. You would think that that was the time where you're going to take that step forward. It doesn't there's nothing that can be done in this season. I'm sorry develop the kids all you want play the kids all you want. It's it's not gonna make a whole bid big bit of difference. It's got to Earl in Brooklyn early next up on ESPN. Oh. Earl is listening to the show which I would never blame him for. Unfortunately, though, he's actually calling the show at the same time that is unfortunate spike in jersey. Spike, your next up on ESPN, New York. Good morning and a happy happy thanksgiving to you and your family. You're listening. And on the game list explaining to my wife that talent always wins in the NBA. You got a top five player where they there's no question in anyone's mind. I'll argue with anybody who wants to Anthony Davis a top five player and two hours. Probably is good at two point guards. There is in the NBA and the Knicks throw the dearth of talent on the floor. I think coaching last night was horrible at the end. You'll too young to remember the minute, man. You read about them with Phil Jackson and Mike ridden timeouts and switching offense and defense. You don't have enough time outs. He's doing it on stoppages of play. And if Mitchell Robinson wants to learn you gotta shout honest free throw when I saw that one. I said, okay, we'll lose that. We'll get some experience as last year. What was it would mean you pushing thirty at a loss right now. You don't have any more now. So now. Bright. He got a win once in a while. Otherwise, they'll get totally disenchanted and they won't play. I'm out on the coach still like the guy. He's full of energy, fist-pumping, knee jerk and all that stuff. But trae bucks your best guy to give the basketball to at the end of the game. Maybe you second guys you keep them on the port moody. You know, how I feel about him? He had a good first half. But he wasn't fourth quarter. Yeah. It was fun to watch. When you're watching a gory. Great MBA Talon wasn't Anthony Davis in his fifth year fourth or fifth year fifth year. Yeah. I mean, he's he's just stupid. And you said you. And you said you ended up. Get the best thing he had going for him. The last night was he was playing the Knicks. So that you know, he really stepped up the game. Now, he's a fantastic talent. And clearly just in terms of the moving forward. It's I just don't understand what people are looking at. And it's one thing, you know, like last year, it was clear that Jeff hornicek was trying to, you know, ride the veterans, and it's almost like you have to win some games over. The course I really don't want to. But I get it. Right. You're gonna you're gonna win some games. But if it turns out that you win a game because Kevin Knox had some unbelievable game or because Alonzo tree are just caught fire. That's fine. That's one thing or the Kena ever shows up and does something. All right, fine. Great fantastic. But if it's because Tim Hardaway junior scored thirty five not all wins of the same. I don't want that win. I don't want any wins. But at least if it's the young guys playing that's one thing. But I'm not worried about them. Losing interest or you know, becoming demoralized or what it is? And as far as the coach and David fizzed ill. Let's judge him. What he's got some actual talent. I'm not judging on anything this year. Either go way, it's like you ever watched that show chopped, and they give them all these wacky ingredients, and they expect them to cook. So if you got cow tongue it's gonna be kinda hard to make something appetizing. All right, anchovies encounter target. You know, give him some prime. Meet neil. You can go work with after this year. We'll see what the Knicks have in terms of talent. And hopefully, it's it's significantly better than what it is right now. It's got to be in Brooklyn, Eddie, you're next on ESPN, New York. Good morning. How you doing Eddie? What's going on, man? I'm all right. I just like to say like a lot of people like experience or whatever they saying like was making the franchise player. But to me he's not because you constantly getting hurt since he's been in the league like what three years now? And you get hurt. I can give you a lot of money. I give you. Could give it a bit. You might say you're Neva. So my what you know, it is a business do so the Knicks. You just like get some young players like you said develop start let it stop trying to like trying to win a couple of games or to just be in the playoffs. Do you want to be in the play because the Eastern Conference socks or you would have been the good? You have a good day. Right. You wanna be a coin when when the next get back in the playoffs. I want them to be an actual contender. Now, I'm not saying they have to be a contender for the NBA championship. But at least a contender that can win playoff series. Right. Getting into the eighth seed. I'm sorry. This idea that all that's going to give these young guys experience once the experience. Hey, we made the playoffs that we got drubbed. That's not the experience that I think that I don't think it's as valuable as you think it is too early. In Brooklyn, Earl what's going on. Hey, dana. You say the morning. I'm good at that hour. But I go ahead. Earl you say that a couple of months ago that Zinger you wanna build the Knicks team around posting the Knicks, and like the caller last caller said plus thing is is always hurt. He hasn't played a full season and three years. Correct. Right. So now. Yeah. I mean, this is a significant injury. The other stuff was not as quite as the doesn't make a difference injury. As AJ you gotta play a full season. Then you say about the match. I don't think I ever said that I don't think I said that I wanted to build around pausing. I actually don't want porzingas to be the best talent on the team. And if you do things right this year, he wouldn't be every morning got an I listen to you every single morning at five fifteen I get into cough. Okay. Then you just made a comment about golf. Let him stay healthy. Okay. So tell me let me let me be clear. Do you want these kids these players to be healthy and stay with the New York team? Or do you want to build around these kids because if we met synagogue, oh, he's a good player? He's a very good pitcher. Okay. Did I say that? I wanted to trade Noah Syndergaard. No, you say to you just said verbatim that Syndergaard needs to stay healthy right before you sign into a long term country right because he's under team in drill. But Earl he's under team control for three more years. That's why I think it's this contract. You don't have to make a decision on Porzingis. But we don't have to pay. We still have to pay them to keep them. Yes. You're going to pay him Nick gonna pay him in two years, which would've cost you more money who we talking Syndergaard. Either one the ground passionate value as I know you them around. I'm so confused. I'm sorry. It's very earlier. Look you you'll have to make the decisions when their contracts are up the Graham's contract you have in for under team control for two more years. You have Syndergaard for three more years. So I'm certainly not rushing to make a decision on those guys before I have to. I'm also not rushing to make a decision on porzingas before a half to. Unfortunately, his decisions coming up before the other two guys this I'm on losing something. I don't know. All right, one eight hundred nine one nine ESPN, one eight hundred nine one nine three seven seven six is the Gordon Damer shows phone number and coming up, we'll get a little bit more into the Mets and the Knicks, but also many Machado, Manny Machado is a free agent at it seems clear at this point they chase for the Yankees is on is not the right move. We'll get into that coming up Gordon Damer show. We take you up until eight o'clock high school football report, then right here. Ninety eight point seven FM ESPN New York now back to the Gordon tamer show on ninety eight point seven. ESPN a lot of things don't make sense to me in this world and one of them. Why do we still have sketch artists in courtrooms like I was looking up at the TV's here. And they had like a new story about the trial of El Chapo, and they have a picture of him drawn in the courtroom, like the we like, there's nobody know what El Chapo looks like at this point that we need somebody drawing pictures of drawing pictures of him in a court of law. Does that seem to still make sense in two thousand eighteen like can't somebody just I know they don't like to have electron IX in the courtroom. But wouldn't it be less distracting to just have someone pop up a little iphone and just click rather than having some guy assume with like a giant easel? Chalk, it's not even good pictures. Like, they don't even they're never flattering. And I think we can all in our minds. I think of what L ciampa would look like sitting at a table. I don't understand why we who pays those people as a court pay him, the news organizations pay they work. In for free. It can't be working for free chop. Oh, pay him. I don't know. I one eight hundred nine one nine ESPN non sequitur. I just saw that. And it just puzzles me who who do you think it's gotta be the court. Right. I don't know just very very odd that we're still we're still doing that. Just weird things like that. I don't know. Let's go back to the phones. One eight hundred nine one nine ESPN is the phone. Oh, I wanted to talk about Manny Machado got got distracted by El Chapo, who who who among us has not been there. Right. That you've been distracted by chapel. Manny Machado the more that time passes, right? And Brian Cashman was on the case show the other day they have Buck Showalter on the case show yesterday. It certainly seems like the more time passes it's pretty clear the Yankees are going after Manny Machado now, I don't know whether or not they'll definitely get him. But if I gave you five bucks to put on the Yankees landing one of the big free agents or big targets this offseason between Machado Harper. Kluber Patrick Corbin. I guess Dallas kaikal if I gave you a bet to put on the Yankees not that you want. But that they are going to get that person. It certainly seems like Manny Machado is that guy and what? I went to terms will be is it going to be this big ten year contracts been talking about men? I hope not I've been on the record as saying this one does not make a whole lot of sense to me. He's a guy that hits a lot of home runs. But you take a look at his home and road splits. And I don't feel like anybody's else brought this up you take a look at his numbers. Act Camden Yards and away from Camden Yards. And he's a completely different player. And it's not even about I know that the big focus has been in his attitude and running the first base, and I get it. He's he's clearly not a guy that with what you've seen in the postseason just different things spiking at first base in and not hustling, he's not Johnny hustle. That is not a guy that I think that most fans would have a good time rooting for just production assigned. Right. If he produces nobody's gonna care what he does. But it I gotta be honest. That's one that does not make a whole lot of sense to me, especially a line of where it doesn't look like the Yankees are really interested all that seriously about adding anything to the lineup outside of this pursuit of Machado. I just if you go into aunt anything to the lineup, and I'm not saying go out and sign somebody to ten years, or or whatever that big money is going to be it just for more, right? Another right handed power bat is not what I look at the Yankees offense needing. And again, it's gotten kind of forgotten about. Now because of just how poorly the starting pitching performed in the postseason. Yes. The need to improve the starting pitching. But the offense was an issue as well. That series against Boston short as it was game. One game four they had plenty of opportunities. And one of the big reasons why they were not able to capitalize was that. The offense did not come through when it had opportunities. One eight hundred nine hundred ninety SPN one eight hundred nine one nine three seven seven six one positive though. I have thought of like say they do sign. Manny machado. It's pretty clear there's a large portion of the fan base that just is not going to like the move because of the attitude stuff that running the first base all those type of things I do think though that if you get into the course of the season, he will then draw all the negative attention. And it'll kinda Gary Sanchez all of a sudden won't be quite the whipping boy that he's bid. Now, here's got to perform he's got to do a whole lot better than last year, which was off horrendous. I mean, it was just a horrendously bad year for Gary Sanchez, but assuming that he bounces back to some degree. I do think the fact that he's a homegrown Yankee boil boy that'll that'll get him a little a little breathing room for the public. Let's get back to the phones. One eight hundred nine one ninety SPN one eight hundred nine one nine three seven seven six or two Alan freeport at your next up on ESPN, New York. Gordon? Thanks for taking the time hail. Manny machado. I dream like a child that the Yankees do side him. Okay. I won't use the seaward like a virus? But he's kinda like herpes. He's gonna he's gonna spread all over that clubhouse on. I'm taking it by the the herpes reference. Al you're not a Yankee fan. No. I'm not a yank right at all. That's why I hope they saw them. But they just lost sight since George is gone. Peaching wins world seared they have hitting. But look what happened like you said game one with the Bosox. What happens right? The pit. The starting pitching was largely horrible. And yet they were both in both games one and game four and they won game two and they got crushing game three. But you gotta remember Mookie Betts didn't have the degraded series against them. And you know, what happens when when they had that dynasty while let me a lot of. I mean, the whole it's amazing how the revisionist history. Happens. Now that you know, George was all it wasn't until George got suspended in the Yankees built up the farm system, and then came back, and then started supplementing that by spending the money. Yes. But joy, I mean for a LA I mean, people forget you're talking about people forgetting they was a time in this town believe it or not the George Steinbrenner was more disliked than James Dolan is right now, or at least on par with how people feel largely about James Dolan. And it's based on you know, a lot because the Knicks have not one in his entire time here. But I mean, this idea that they just have to do it like when George was here. No. There was a large time when George was here that the Yankees were the laughing stock of baseball, they are in a good place right now the gap between them and the Red Sox is not nearly as great as people are portraying to be and you would have to say right now at least after this past season out of all everyone has a gap between them and the Red Sox. The yankee's gap is probably smaller than everyone else's. One eight hundred nine one nine ESPN is the phone number coming up, we'll wrap things up on the phones. We'll get into the giants and the buccaneers game on Sunday as well. Lots to do before high school football report today, it is Gordon Damer show ninety eight point seven FM ESPN New York now back to the Gordon Damer show on ninety eight point seven ESPN. Let's get some calls in before the top of the hour. Let's go out to Tom and massapequa, Tom. You're next up on ESPN, New York. He I don't think they need a cancer like Machado. And while I was like, I'm not going to refer to as cancer. But I'll refer to was herpes. No that was necessarily needed. But go ahead. What do you? What do you think about the idea of moving tour's to shortstop and signing? Daniel Murphy to play second base. You got a big leftie back there on the goriest comes back. You got you got options. Yeah. I mean, look Murphy offensively. I like I like the idea of that adding a lefty bat, and I think that Murphy if healthy would absolutely rake it Yankee Stadium. The only problem with that is twofold, a I don't know if Daniel Murphy, you know, his defensive metrics of really kind of dropped here. And it was never like he was all that strong defender now thirty three years of age, you know, how much you're gonna have to sign him for. And I don't know if they want to necessarily move labor off second back to short you like that's the kind of thing that we don't really know right now like one of the appealing factors of of Machado was okay while dis out he could play shortstop. And now he doesn't play great shortstop to begin with at least not according to the defensive stats, but I don't know if they necessarily wanna move labor back to the other side of the bag. Murphy would be appealing, and again, I'm not saying that I necessarily want to sign anybody to the ten year contract that made this point on the morning show. But if I'm gonna sign one guy it would be Harper over Machado. It's not it's not even really close to one thing. The Yankees need is if they need anything a lefty bat and a guy who's constantly on base even in a down year even in a year where he slumped and was had a disappointing overall season for Bryce Harper. He'd still rank first and walks first in on base. I think you'd be second in home runs. I in Rigby. I mean, he'd be he'd still ranked very highly in the Yankee order, and then all of a sudden you put him in between judge and Stanton boil boy now, I'm not saying that you have to do that. If they don't get Harper. I understand but to be going out and giving out a ten year contract. Anybody are big time long term deal like that. It doesn't seem to make the one guy that I wanted the Yankees to go out and maybe pursue an it. Kind of is a moot point now because I brought back Gardner. David Peralta of Arizona, thirty years old a guy who absolutely crushes lefty. No, he's a lefty back crushes righties. You know, a guy who at Yankee Stadium would I think certainly put up good numbers as I said thirty years old. I don't think would have cost you a whole lot. You know, the smaller moves that you can make that I think would make a whole lot more sense. Daniel Murphy, I don't know if that one still makes sense a couple years ago. Maybe I don't know if it does anymore. Oh, yeah. I do I want to touch on the giants and just a couple of things on them. They face off against the bucks. It's amazing. Boy, how one win one good performance one late comeback by ally. Boy gets all the Eli defenders all worked up again. See if not he lie. All right. Sure. Bring him back next year. The one thing look maybe the giants do go out and win on Sunday. Tampa Bay's all buck. Banged up in the secondary on the defense. It is interesting though, you all of a sudden win this game. Then you get into that that area where especially with the schedule getting a little easier that top five pick is not all of a sudden guaranteed now son guarantee and for all the defenders looked at the buccaneers defense is atrocious. There banged up certainly go out and score thirty five points on Sunday for all the defenders. Let's go back to the phones. Let's go to Lewis and Whitney Lewis, you're next on ESPN. Morning, gordon. Let me I'm going to try scripted is real quick. So you Araya by when they base them. Everybody else in the stage and was pretty much crying foul. That's the reason why they were gonna say decided to go back and reinstated. My starter the data code you earlier about percents and jumping back and forth between Senegal and the ground. Right. You didn't know what he was talking about? I listen to you every day on Thursdays. The last thing you have people. Eight people at Michael k rigged appears your candy. And even Dave, you know, they get on. And they started saying how the Knicks Knicks to win in. And they're like, yeah. We're glad that guys are getting experienced a. Yeah. But they also need to win with bad dry people. Like, the caller was caught saying that you were a single for singer to that drives those people and the defenders reminds to con, you know, go towards hey, the nickname keep winning. Oh, this is awful one day. No that if they lose and again a high lottery pig, they'll get a better player. I don't understand what people just can't get that through their head. And it's it's not an ideal to be in. I I get it. And look it could turn out bad. Right. You could lose all these games. And you get like the fifth pick that could happen. But in terms of following the right process with the position that you're in. What's the alternative the alternative is last you're trying to maximize wins? And what did they win last year? Twenty eight games. It's got to Jack in Manhattan, Jack. You're. ESPN ers Eli. Jack. Jackson paying attention. I can't stand. I like that. He's listening, but you gotta be paying attention as well. Mitch in east Windsor. Mitch you're next on ESPN, New York. LA just you didn't miss go after Manny, they need help. We're gonna dream. Let's dream big Mitch. Yeah. I mean, I think they did announce the Powerball winner the other day, and it was not the wilpon. So I don't think that they're going to be going after many Machado. And I'm glad that it might let go because then Cory Seager. I might dodges get go after hawk like you said he's gonna plead that play Joan on issue. Batting like two fifty and one more thing that's always at the award for the I mean, you had a great year. But man, I mean, you know, he he was he was he was the best pitcher. I mean, even as a Yankee fan, I'm not going to do what met fans generally do. And that is just hate on the other team for no, no. He was clearly the best pitcher if you are judging a pitchers value on wins. Then you're ridiculous. There was an interesting stat. I'm I'm going to try and remember it perfectly. But I believe it was that Jacob degrom had the lowest ERA in baseball this year, Lucas g Lido with the White Sox had the highest. They both had the same number of. Of wins in the course of the year and their teams, I think we're both ten and fourteen in games. They start are something along those lines. So it just shows you if you're still judging wins by the value of a starting pitcher or really any pitcher, you're doing it wrong. It's much like RBI's. You shouldn't be judging anything as bad of a year as Bryce Harper had his on base percentage was still one of if not the best in baseball that's valuable player. Even if he's just getting walks. Those are just don't use up outs are going to do it for us today. Didn't get us on the phone. You can certainly hit me up on the old Twitter machine at Gordon Damer. You're listening to the Gordon Damer show podcast on ninety eight point seven ESPN.

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5/12/21 - Boomer & Gio Show - Hour 3 (8am-9am)

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5/12/21 - Boomer & Gio Show - Hour 3 (8am-9am)

"Hi i'm jon meacham. The host of canes thirteen's new podcast fate of fact on how america and its political parties. Got to where we are today available now on odyssey apple podcasts. And wherever you get your podcast all right. So i see g. q. sa- profile on a guy profile on a mets pitcher. And i'm reading through this. And i cannot believe some of the stuff that i'm hearing in this because this guy is doing a lot to get his body ready for professional sports all right so the question from the g. q. And i'm going to read you this stuff. And you tell me who you think. This guy is right at all the mets pitchers and their bullpen. Starters you tell me who it is so. The question is in our recent instagram video. You said you're on the beach and you were getting your zenon. What does that look like In this picture. Says i'm a big routine guy. Set myself up to attack the day. I turned my house into a wellness lounge. I have an infrared sauna in new york that had sent down here in florida. I have a hyperbaric chamber. That i live in. I enjoy recovery. So i have this thing called the moral zocalo forge which is like a cold. Plunge i start my day off with that. If i'm lucky enough to wake up before the sunrise i'll hop in the car. I'll go to the beach. The best way to start your day to get some natural sunlight. And i'm into grounding and earth thing earth yes which is basically standing barefoot and making a connection to the earth. Right sounds like witchcraft. I believe the science behind it. Oh and by the way. He said he just got done doing some. B f r f r. You know a bf is b f r b f are what is afar blood flow. Yes yes i'd be if i didn't realize yes okay. Yes blood flow restriction right. He said i've got some cut. Sioux bans that. I put on my arms and then i'll swiffer or sweep the floor with the cut to bands. It's a nice pump and gives me a good recovery. Flush look of soft these days. You know that well. That's what he said in this thing as well so baseball soft. So obviously you've read this thing you know what's going on sports minute. Yes that would be noah syndergaard. You did a sports minute on this. Yes dammit why. During a sportsman and on it. It's so bizarre that you have to sportsmen and on it. Yeah no i just. I thought i was going to catch your eye. Every i'm all about earth grounding to by the way you're into earth grounding feet in the sand every day i get up and i walk on the earth bob wiley thinks about this. The old browns offense of line coach who was on hard knocks. I know i know who he is. Okay anyway what. We won the war by doing push ups and sit ups jumping jacks smoking cigarettes smoking cigarettes and having sex and now these guys put their feet in ascendance swift with their apartments. Sweep their apartment. Softies noah syndergaard. Big strong guy. He could stall on the beach at normandy. Probably not because when he got take his shoes off. Just stand there and earth. Fighting the war softy. Beach where's no in his hyperbaric chamber back on the ship. Great whereas we're fighting the germans. Where is he always in. There's morris soco forge. We won the war by doing jumping. Jacks pitch going cold tub softy. Anyway what are your thoughts on this. He's bizarre he's always been bizarre. Member came back looking. Like a donnas. Yeah out a lot of ood dark knight. Yeah i heard evidence. Craig screaming about the dark knight yesterday. Like when he was pitching he was good. He was really good and he was the face of the pitching staff that was supposed to include he. Jake degrom and noah syndergaard the big three. If you will anytime your big three always ends up being a big one. That's it seems like maybe a half or they all get turned into relievers. You have noah syndergaard here big red meat guy too by the way. So i'm brady's diet likes liver and heart. He likes liver. And yes. Now it talking eating the liver and hat Yeah so he says is incorporates it every day he makes it into burgers liver and heart burgers. Man it's called the nose to tail method to use all parts of the animal and he goes it says in central as it gets for us he just needs to be pitching and stop talking honestly. That's get up here and be the guy that everybody hopes you come on and got me while you got the degrom not saying anything to say you know about my mechanics. I just wanna make sure. I get it right. He's very technical. Technically sound pitcher. He didn't feel comfortable the other night. It's not about what he eats where he stands you know. What kind of blood placement of place are plasma replacement therapy he does. I'm ready for this with syndergaard in the afternoon. I like to turn the sauna on. Turn the hot toubon. And then it turned the wifi off and try to mitigate is much. emf or dirty signals affecting. How i might o'connor andrea vers reacts. This sounds like mutant bull. Durham it like a guy who talks. That's another interesting thing. And i like to do before i go to bed. Turn the wifi off right. And in the the guy who's interviewing goes what's the thinking behind that the electromagnetic field can interrupt with your cellular processes or something and syndergaard. Says i think so. Where'd you get that. Because ben greenfield. There's some joe. Rogan ones offer something similar. I think there's something to the five g and all the emf. No no boy. He's a five week. Run a guy in the world flat. He goes maybe turn off. He told the guy was interviewing him. Turn off your wi fi before you go to. oh boy. what about the wifi from. All the apartments next woman houses next not lying around interrupting his cellular processes going up here and pitch and just button it by zip it. Zip it weirdo. Get up here pitch. Wow he wants to get a fluke by the as well he to get out of the okay one of those things. That's noah syndergaard. That's what he's been up to sticking his feet in the sand and shutting off his wifi and eating eating cow hearts. Jeez hey let's go to Susan in new jersey susan. what's happening. Hey there boomer and geo cologne. How's it going. Could you know. I just wanted to make some comments about the bob basket situation with of course venus spirit so you know you guys have been throwing him under the bus. I get it but you really ought to know your facts because the better message zone positive that he got his. So minute and me. Having worked as racecourses my entire adult life worked with standards at the middle and and you know we have to be very very careful even just stuffy rub onto legs their stuff like i know that i thought it was what he says when he first said that this horse tested positive because he ate. Hey that was urinated on by groom who drank some cough syrup so now you said and now you're sitting here telling me that they've rub some cream on the horse. That has steroids in there. He should've known that where the records. That's what i wanna know. If a vet has seen this horse then we should see the vet records and he should have known that that cream was put on the horse privatised. Fa- kochta thing that he did on fox news the other day come on the cover ups worse than anything. Well i don't see it as a cover up yellow. You tell people who bet on mandolin tell people who are not getting their money because this horse was given something to help it run this race that it shouldn't have run in to a greater who spout is spending millions of dollars on trying to bring mayors to to to the to the market and sell those in his thirty five thousand dollar horse wins this race with the help of this steroid and non-inflammatory drug that it was given come on. Yeah says you got listen. You can say whatever you want. You've been in horse racing. I get it but for those of us. Who are the only interest that i really have in. This is a derby horse and to have this happen in the middle of derby with thirty five thousand dollar horse and this guy trying to explain the way he did on fox news and then come back and say something else yesterday. It's a crock of crap. And you know that now no. I don't believe it is phil believe in. Jesus you really think he's telling the story change five times okay. There's a lot of things that topically you gotta be real careful what you put on the because they will come up positive and i know from my own experience. There are things that the course can ingest and stall and like a guy pain in the stall. That really can happen. I know you guys think that's a bunch of crap but that really can happen. That's how labs have have things that such a minute level that they can't like you know have you. Have you worked with bob baffert before you friendly with them is. This is why you're taking this roy. Now now now. I just know from working. With racehorses my entire life working on the backstretch basis and i know what goes on if you have you bet if you bet. Let's say. I don't know five grand on mandolin to win. You would have one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars after his over comes out that that this horses tested positive for banned substance and by the way why why is it that in two thousand twenty two the by decree of congress that there's the anti doping agency is taking off a horse racing. Why is that yeah. That's something i don't agree with but But why isn't that. Why do you think they're doing that. Okay so another thing. I appoint i wanna to make is that. The press really magnifies like when one thing happened and out of the thousands and thousands and thousands of people talking. It's a kentucky derby. There's millions of people watching it. Millions of people who bet on mandolin. Who didn't win. I mean they're disgusted. They're discussing bob baffert forgiving the sources. substance no matter how he gave it to him and by the way is there a thing called the vet record is shouldn't we know exactly. What the horse has been taking or given. Yes and i'm sure but if it's something top collect that that's probably something he even have on the record. It's not an injectable but and he's going there wouldn't be. I wouldn't be on record. It might not be just something like a cream there cream on us. Yes says. I listen i listen. You can defend the horse racing all you want. And i'm sure that they're honest. People that are out there doing honest things. I'm sure you're one of them. But as far as bob baffert is concerned you know thirty. Five thousand dollars horse is going to win the kentucky derby by using this topical cream. Now i mean come on and how many times how many times he trouble for topical cream. I don't believe the amount of positive that he had the pico. Graham made any difference in his performance. You don't think that that horse going into this race and that didn't need this and didn't need the steroid anti-inflammatory now now. Now that know he's you know he's got a fungus little fungus spot on his body. That's not uncommon. They they're applying some susan. He just came up with that because all his other excuses were falling flat longest cancel culture on this fungus spot. There was no beyond a none of this happened. He made all of this up. He got caught with the same drug on a horse in the kentucky oaks last year. He's completely full of crap. No other horse tested positive for anything in the kentucky derby. He ended up winning with a horse. That was not expensive as boomer pointed out. And i know you probably say all right. You don't want your industry to take a hit like this on his level. And you're blaming. The media blamed bob baffert for screwing it up. He's the most recognizable name and face in horse racing and he cheated multiple times and he got caught. Here's got two horses in the preakness disgrace right. So here's two things one. There are some people who say this is bad for horse racing. I look at it the other way. If horse racing does something about this and keeps him out of the preakness. I think it's good for horse racing. You horse racing to be legit. You want you want the better going to the window placing a bet and feeling confident that everything is on the up and up. Yeah of course. I'm surprised it's five thousand dollars or mandolin for the kentucky derby would have returned one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars five thousand dollars to win boxy two bucks got what fifty eight bucks back or something like that. Yeah probably all right so but the point being as you bet on a horse and you thought that the horse and because of the way horse racing is they're not going to refund the money and then repay the other money. It's just basically it's done done. It's done unless you want as clean a sport as you possibly again just like baseball wants just like football once. It's like hockey watches like basketball wants. Everybody wants it to be clean as possible. Of course he should and this guy has been pushing the envelope and by the way you know you don't where he's based out of santa anita and what has happened there. I'm not saying it's all his fault but what has happened. There have horses dying mean. It's been very very controversial up there. Yeah so there you go. That didn't work out for susan the way she wanted it to i understand. She wants to protect sport and she loves her sport. And it's great. You have one high profile guy. That's putting your sport right in the crosshairs. And that's why the anti-doping agency is taking over in two thousand twenty two. Don't blame the museum crap like this. Don't cancel culture. don't blame anything else. He went on effort. He went on television. Yeah and line is this is what the hell he said. Light his ass off. i mean solve. That's the want to believe him. What's that got a bridge and sell you. Is that the that the phrase jon meacham the host of cadence. Thirteen's new podcast. Fate of fact on how america and its political parties got to where we are today available now on odyssey apple podcasts. And wherever you get your podcast the morning show with boomer. Esiason gregg giannotti boomer geo the house of highlights. That was on the state court last night for the lakers knicks game. That's an instagram account. That's a guy who came up with an instagram idea of putting up highlights of basketball games pro and college and whatever and people just in their driveways. And i don't know if he's got a deal now where with the nba or staples center or whatever. But that's just a guy with an instagram account. Who's who ended up on the floor at the staple center. I thought that was pretty impressive. That awesome build something up from the bottom like that. And it's a great account you wanna followed by the way you know the last chance university that we've talked yes. They did a basketball one and it was really really good and i would. I would highly recommend watching it. Nor do i find that net flicks. That's a netflix one. It's really really good with all the junior college. You know all the seen it before. It's the same type premise guys who were trying to make it either back to d one or d one last shot they have. Maybe they screwed up somewhere along the line or had some issues and grades or whatever and they go back to a junior college and find their way back. It's raw it's interesting. It's entertaining and i would recommend especially if you're a basketball fan all right jerry. What are you got forcing update brought to you by stress is available at stictly furniture and mattress visit shop. Stictly dot com before. I do the sports from last night. So the full week one schedule is out for the nfl. Guys did the giants and jets obviously jets panthers in carolina and giants broncos. Hear your primetime games for week. One the season will open thursday night. Football and buccaneers tampa sunday night football bears and rams la and monday night football. Be the ravens and the raiders. Okay doing to monday night games again right now. All i see is one. I see the one i see. Ravens raiders other notable games. I guess you would have did the green bay in new orleans maybe aaron rodgers and maybe not maybe james once brits right just winston jordan love and the other one i'll give you chiefs and browns. Yeah week one point five. Yes the vikings plan do have air there in cincinnati. Oh in cincinnati. Yeah interesting one yup. So those are the notable ones in We are getting into it. We've led with the the basketball all morning. We'll start with some baseball here. Because i was not aware of this aalyah on sunday night baseball. They always have those microphones right by home plate. You love the sound up. Yeah love the sound of the bat. Why not aware that on. Mlb dot tv. You can get a different version as well so not a great play. But this was part of the The game last night. The al more play in center field with some advanced audio which i just found and it'll be a one to two hayes. Swung on that ball is hit. Well back goes mora at the track at the wall and he. Oh he's down. Pay standard third. Hopefully i'll is okay but wow what. A herculean effort their set building. Maybe it wasn't movie that tv might have been a production studio. Yes now because he's okay as we found out after the game. I actually bought it. Did you really twenty seconds. And i just thought that maybe you put in the sound effect. Someone actually doing a playboy. Then i listened close. That's a very fattening accent. And a terrible calm. I was gonna say you look at it out laughing because he late. Espn highlights how crystal clear. They are so that this is pretty clear that he's also a good noisemaker very good noisemaker as we found out in that clip. Now before anybody yells at me this was lewis roz l. Maura after the game on on his neck and everything they'll they'll do furnish check some rayed. Everything was negative and everything came out. Okay so hopefully maccabee today for sure he said the shoulder could be a little sore today but everything they checked out So a herculean effort. Did you write on that or did i do me a favor. You saw the play. Go recreate it for me okay. So we went with that. Having been said the mets did win the game in the final turn at bat swinging towards. I here comes. Vr bench leading up to the plate head for but the books jonathan vr. I get said. I had an attack from severino wasn't vr and home base. So he does it again. Last night of a leaker. The game winning at bat pat velika. No no matter. What difference does it make. I mean his family cares but whatever you have the same difference. Vr in belika right. Same difference So i apologize to camera. Wasn't rolling what i'd like to do right now. You can we cover the camera. A little tension in the studio one is there. Oh yeah definitely. It started this morning too. Yeah but then you and eddie are never no never not at all. That's not true. Here is louis rojo's haas lots of confidence in belika or musica or velika. You get what i'm saying. Just knowing him from the past is is not taking quality of bats. And that's what he's done every time he's been up there right. I mean i- greis puts the ball in play. That's what he does without having a major league hit and he's wearing number seventy six and he's done to walk off fielder's choice he does. Now here's dom smith had the game tying. Rbi single says burr. Grinding out wins. It's not always going to be a sluice sailing or cakewalk You know blown teams out. We know that win ballgames even when we're not feeling great. Even when offenses infill ingraham. They got it done. John means six scoreless innings after his no hitter. Which if anybody didn't know he threw last time out. Marcus stroman six and a third one run ball. Jerry's familiar the win in relief. Six in a row for the mets. They continually billy's by a game in the nfl films. Beat the nationals. Last net baby twelve ten matt harvey the start for the baltimore orioles against taiwan walker coverage. Wcbs eight eighty Later this morning actually eleven. Thirty with pre-game show on the game starts at twelve as for the yankees beat the race. Three one home runs for aaron judge and gary sanchez. Dj lemay who scores in a passed ball in the third. Now here was judge. Happy to hit the home. Run early on in this game against this team. Having trouble here usually tablet whenever we come in tampa stuff russell score runs and kind of get on the board. No he did last night. I was watching this game. You know back and forth between the meccan trying to figure out now. Aaron judge is standing out in right field in this on the turf everywhere else. He's running on dirt grass. Right no dirt. Oh you mean here yes. Remember the whole thing about the turf and how hard it is and how out debilitating it might be for aaron judge. I don't have a ball even head home last night. I'm sure did yeah. I mean what you're saying that He should not be affected by the turf especially when he's on offense because he's running on dirt. I don't i never understood this. I don't i. I don't know why it affects them so much but it does maybe just brings on dirt out there and stand it. But but it's not like he is running on the turf he standing on the turf. Where are you going with this. I don't know what you're saying. Well this was a big deal going into the series about to give them rest sunday all right near the lower body problems and it's the turf in tampa that creates problems. He missed other games in plays in tampa. Where i don't know i can tell you this. I get terrible back pain. We did that softball game. And we're not rach russia where the hell we played softball and we're marian rivera game whereas shell new rochelle that turf field. I can barely walk the next day. All standing on it. I'm forty-seven all right. Yeah bed back i do. He's got a bad lower body All right right lower body stuff. Is that what they said about body. Soreness i so i Speaking of injuries erudite crampton. Oh yes the cramps right. That's jeff mcneil body lane second base hamstring pulled my quad. I hurt my hip or something that you have body. Cramps body cramps with the wind. Yankees nineteen and sixteen. They'll play tonight. Garrett cole the start against colin mccue also had the coaches contracting covid nineteen although there vaccinated as we know so they'll continue testing later today also the padres for an Junior along with wil myers testing positive. as well jerks pro far horry matteo and eric hosmer sidelined because of contact tracing. They did beat the rockies. Eight to one met fans. I'm sorry but The mariners are gonna call. Jared is at kelanic or kalinic. It's now nick. He's being called up to the big club tomorrow and they're very very excited. It should be. And it's a huge deal. Jerry dipoto the gm said that trade completely changed the course of their. We'll see let's see what he does and we'll see what happens when we shall see Lakers beat the nixon overtime one. Oh one to ninety nine knicks. Chance late with the ball. Julius randle misfired. They went to overtime. Knicks set a chance late with the ball again. This was rj barry scrabble. To to what the lakers at over time. That is brian anderson on tnt. Not the best of looks for barrett nowhere to go. Knicks wind up falling one. Oh one ninety nine here is very here. Was derrick rose. Rita was pissed. Man he did like basically the lebron james what the after. Jr smith situation like look it up surgeon. Doing what are you doing. It did not look like they had much called. Now play at least get the ball into rainbows hands. And i know he didn't make the shot at the end the regulation but he's still the man on the t. Right get him the ball here. Is derrick rose. What happened there. You didn't have any and It was just i mean. That's the first time in a situation too so you live and you meyer and learn. Here's julius randle disappointed. Lose succe- south we feel like we. You know follow nomi applets exhausted on no more guys splits also and so the knicks saga three and three on the road trip. Their thirty eight and thirty one. Their situation is there even with the heat and hawks record wise but because of tiebreakers. The knicks are six In that three team race knicks. Play the spurs tomorrow hawks and wizards tonight and the heat did beat the celtics last night by eight. The nets top the bulls won fifteen one zero seven eight different players in double figures for brooklyn including Irving he had thirteen but he also left taking an elbow to the face. Here was steve. Nash were there at that. The no signs of concussion. I had an x-ray which is inclusive so or really just began in the morning Probably be scanned and all that would get home and we'll take it and the nets do play. Tonight against the spurs james harden could go the nets are one game ed milwaukee for second two games behind philly for first because the seventy sixers did lose to the pacers one. Oh three to ninety. Four bucks did beat the magic in the warriors. Top the sons one twenty two to one sixteen each morning show with boomer esiason and gregg giannotti boomer in z. o. Now we know who the jets are playing in september but we have no idea when the l. islanders and you're going to start this week gray safe. Why haven't they announced that while there's only one playoff game that's on the schedule right now. And that's for saturday and saturday. Night on nbc. And it's boston at washington. That's the only game that i see scheduled bus far for them. Each i'll play. What's the holdup here. Well i it could be a hold up because not mike vancouver. Just decimated with covid is still playing well into next week Van vancouver and calgary have to play two games next week now. Neither one of these teams are in the playoff. So it shouldn't really have an effect. I think on everything else that's going on. But because they moved these games back maybe that has something to do with it. And when do you expect the games to be at the coliseum. Which days well they're gonna open in pittsburgh right so you would think games three and four would be somewhere if if i had to take a just a stab at it. Thursday thursday saturday. Maybe okay all right make it. Turtles allows teams to do right now especially the teams who season is over like the penguins than the healthy. Yeah i know allows them to take a break practice on some things. Get all the bumps and bruises out of the way and teams when they line up for. The playoffs should be healthy and should be raring to go. Let's get back some of these calls. Let's go to leroy in pelham. What's going on leroy. Hey guys. I'm in my one fifty heading up to pick up my daughter from school. Yeah hey did you say your boat trying to the other day that developed. I just wonder if you've got it. Are you the guy who sent me. The fender covers to cover. That's awesome. yeah so he gave me a. You know you've seen defend covers. What are those four. We'll you seem boats. that will pull into a slip. And then they'll throw offender over the side. It's like wish she pill proper. Yeah it's a bump equal fenders or bumpers saint. Alright yeah fender bumper. So you create leroy. You created this cover. That goes over the offender. The bumper gets all dirty. Gets all banged up so this cover has your favorite major league baseball team. I got license a major league baseball. Nice yeah he got the license right so you put that on there and it looks great because usually it gets a little Scuzzy stuff if you don't have a cover on it so much tremendous i. I met covers on the water license. So you go to world's fair marina with the boat gio you know you'd be sporting met covers absolutely leroy. Yes i meant to send you an email thanking you. 'cause i know you dream formation in air. I appreciate that and best of luck with the product. Get can i look. I ask you a football question. Sure again After after the Super bowl they cut chris collins. What and i know. He's like towards the end of his career. Guys still had a lot in them. Why was he cut by cincinnati. A why didn't they pick them up again. It's a very good question. He had a condition in his knees. That were called microfracture. The first time we'd ever heard of microfracture surgery was with chris collins worth and so he was one one of the local orthopedic doctor saw that and founded and ultimately i think he lost a little speed because of it and it was one of the reasons that i believe. They have let them go but he had a short but a very very impactful career for the bengals. I thought it was backlash from the buenos tacos commercial. I thought to get rid of them now but it was you know like i said it was very short and impactful career. Because he was a he was an nfl nba rookie of the year. Yeah very good career. He was on. The cover of sports illustrated was he. Yes a couple of times maybe ryan in. What's going on ryan. Are you good morning boomer. What's happening About the head out to the golf course. My father's seventy third birthday. Happy birthday dad. He's a he's a big listener little too shy to call so he lets me do the bidding. I have comments about my net. Misdemeanor zeka putting the ball in play. Thank goodness for him. It should be an example that you don't always need a babysit you know. They've been killing us with runners on third base and nobody out in striking out so maybe it's fires them up a little bit been killing us. Yeah he gets a little too hyped up. Sometimes you could tell even on. Both the only needs to relax that a little bit. I think it'll be fine. I did have a follow up because you got me. All triggered with noah syndergaard. Yeah this guy is turning into the odell beckham of the mets. Like look at me. Pay attention to me. Here's my sponsorship Shirtless and i got fifteen million excuses. Why i got a four and a half. Era the boss. Too slick too sweaty. My catcher can't catch driving me nuts. I hope he can come back and perform and just keep his mouth shut. Otherwise they got a higher david rights to be in the clubhouse and throw disguise lunch in the trash like he did back fifteen. Somebody's got to put him in his place. Yeah i mean it's not a terrible comparison. I do think though that the worst thing that own outback junior was go on. Espn after he signed his contract can essentially trash is quarterback. Now noah syndergaard is not done that with any of his teammates and that to me is a big difference. But yeah i mean look at me. Instagram this or that not reducing injuries. Yeah at those. Comparisons are similar with odell beckham. Junior and i hope that noah syndergaard comeback sometime in june or july and be great in boasts of this rotation but this he is turned into a i have to see it to believe it guy one hundred percent before you can just say he's gonna come back and be good. I agree with you and resign. Agree with you is because along with matt. Harvey him and jacob degrom. They were supposed to be the next big thing and each one of them has had their moments. Jacob has been by far the most consistent and the best of them of all three of them. But when you think of matt harvey and noah syndergaard. I don't think either one has ever reached their total potential. Oh deep maybe one year maybe in one year and then all of sudden all hell broke loose around him but he was supposed to be a guy that signed a ten year contract and was great every year. That's what he was asking this question. Who would you want today. And i think the answer is pretty obvious. Let's take jake degrom out of the equation. Because obviously everybody would take him how. 'bout you throw. We are in there. Yeah well it's got to be wheeler spend the most consistent. It's gotta be him. I don't know all this. Pitching the mets had and between injuries and self sabotage savvy to sabotage. I would. I would say that. Thank god for jacob ground. Of course. I mean it's funny because you know everybody making a big deal about how are you coming back. Today noah syndergaard's j. g. q. It's like but here's jacob. Degrom wind cy youngs and i know he's on the i l. right now but he still has never gotten the fanfare that those guys have had because he's just been a low key under the radar personality one hundred percent professional. I mean noah syndergaard's getting asked questions g. q. who cares. how's he been. Nobody cares about although we did do. A sport sportsmen stuffy said yes so i guess it was a good article in the sense that this this person is reporter was like why guy noah syndergaard's nuts eaten cow hearts and wiggling his toes in the sand and then jumping in a cold tub and a half per barrick chamber. Erling earthling earth thing burton earn. Let's go to tony in connecticut. Hello tony hey guys doing to that. What's happening so i i'm not calling disagree with anything guys say about knowing i always the bait call it. 'cause i love you guys but You know all sports. Have you guys tried the be part in the beef liver yet. Beef and beef liver. Unless i'm eating in a slim. Jim or something. I don't know realize no probably not i'm telling you guys especially you kind of go with if you are in the grounding and earth it kind of goes like like you said that whole ancestral thing. I'm i'm a big beef. I think both of you guys would actually like to be far little more than the beef liver beef livers kind of an acquired taste but every morning i'm telling you wanna get your testosterone up. Bill will espresso little beef liver. I'm telling you about over joe from job herrera. And i said look man. What's going on. Oh we have centers for the weekends for the summer. What's happening because yeah. Yeah yeah we send you look for you guys show you. Should we get some be part and beef liver. How do you order it. Yeah tony how deliver part of it. I don't wanna. I don't wanna like do a plug or like that but also titled and bluffed georgia. It's this It's just like six generation agricultural farm actually and it's great high quality meat. They a right to your house. Some some dry ice and Yeah i order like ten twelve pounds at a time and you're good for like three to four months you know i. I'd like say the beef hardest probably easier to. How do you prepare like. He's just popping out of dry ice and just nothing. There was one time that i did eat it raw. Because rogan didn't eat it raw. I think one of those podcast. My brother was like we were cooking it up. He's like you only one right now. And i was like you bet your as well so i did and i don't recommend that but i will say if you take the beef heart out a little bit of himalayan sea salt put it in You know i do a frying pan with some. You know some of your oil or whatever oil. You like to cook dinner. Even if it's just some grass fed butter phenomenal. Okay and that's it. You cut it up and you you just eat it for the size of a fillet. Yeah so when you when you get the beef art. It's actually like a heart like you gotta like slice it up. Like i c- i take some scissors. It's real tender so you just take some scissors. You cut it up. It's a little weird when you first get it. But why do you not like gushing blood. Atavism yeah pretty buddy. I'm not gonna days. This seems like a lot man. It really does lot. But johnny it'll change change change my life. How like. I'm going to have more energy like. Are we walking around aroused all the time. What am i getting. i'm i'm not gonna lie. The around the arousal situation is for real. Yeah go man. You're going to be ready to go especially the beef lever because it doesn't increase faster and just kind of like a natural mechanism that comes through the beef liver. I i think the beef livers actually better if you long term like not even talking baseball pitching. I didn't like that but like liver long term. I think it's probably the way to go. But you wanna talk about getting all the vitamins minerals and nutrients that you need through. Your red meat beat deliver and be part of a bunch of economy. How do you eat deliver the liberal. I do the same thing. Cut it up oil olive oil. And i do a little bit like garlic kind of let it simmer in the frying pan. Then i throw the in there no more than like. I don't know like eight six eight minutes. You know just kind of move it around. Because my mom's from italy so it was like they used to deliver an onions on friday. Or whatever so it was like you know what me let me try this out and we had liver realize it's not it's not great but it was right for you. You know what i mean. Sometimes you got your commitment to your quality of life over your feeling interesting. yeah. I'm not so sure on fridays. I drink the keel. Any chips and guacamole do on friday. It makes you happy right does it does make me happy. Makes me fat as well but it makes me happy all right so in you and your guy who works out a lot. I'm sure you're going to the gym. And you're wiping beef blood off your lips and in doing dead lifts aren't you. You got to nelin ahead. I'm pretty pretty into that stuff. Yeah for charlotte greenfield and all those guys do but maybe you drink enough to kill. You won't even really delivered here. Yeah all right it's interesting. I mean. I've never really done any research on this. And thanks tony for your time and give us an update and i guess an education on this. But it's not. It's not something that i can see myself doing. My grandmother used to make liver and onions german grandmother. Yeah but i love like chicken liver you do of chicken liver spread cheese right right on crackers and stuff like that great. You're doing that not a lot. I don't dislike it. Some people can't stand the taste of liver or even the thought of eating it. Yeah so. But i don't know about this heart thing we've got to check this out i i you know i've been a federal. I haven't seen like part stuff. Like how do you explain that again. heartbeat heart. I guess one little be fought gets you. Brazil hoods walking around the same. Would you need. She sheet walking around with weeding going on. So i'm sorry just a little beef art for lunch. Excuse me What would tom brady say about. All the hates it. He doesn't like he doesn't like it. Maybe this is the thing that he's missing. Maybe play another fifteen years if you starts eating some beef art and liver. Don't tell joe to send us that. Joe guerrero from scenario i. I would know what to do with that. Really i wouldn't. I wouldn't cook that woody cooking. You would eat the heart not eat a beef heart man now no no i wouldn't i wouldn't prepare it. Our judah turkey heart No i have had chicken hearts though i road. This road dizzy. Oh place yes. Yeah about liver now. I don't think i would like liver. You'll ever guy. No now. Now i could probably eat the liver i feel like i could eat the liver but i don't think i could eat the heart. The heart even saying that is making a little queasy now. But i think the hard maybe doesn't taste as liberty as significant as live but i like liver washed liverwurst. Deliver worship deliver washed with a little worcestershire sauce. Liverwurst before they like that so it has that kind of taste. Now what is it live. So obviously liver is in liverwurst. Yes no when you said you had liver and onions is at chicken. Livers or beef livers. I i'm assuming that it was probably beef liver that my grandmother was making. Okay yeah. I'm probably not going to. This guy was. He was a real seller. Though man uses which body needs. You know get you going gives you the energy of going to lift. You know doesn't taste good but you gotta make the sacrifices to do the right thing for your body. Also mcgillis steph apparently claimed that about everything. Yeah i know all this. Oh yeah and it's always like twenty two year old guys telling you about it. Of course exactly. Yeah you could. You could brush up against the side of an ottoman that same effect like al tried brazil for that effect because nothing all these tried brazil matz. I read brazil nuts. You know give you that that Thing as well it is nothing. Would he'd been brazil nuts. We're kind of iverson nuts. Are they like type of nuts. Not yeah it's a big nut too. Big the big nut. They have some some of them are big bigger and you only you only supposed to eat three of them because contained some sort of vitamin that. You don't want to have some ingredient chuck full of nuts. It's those Yeah tell to get any man to try it. That's what they're going to tell you does for you whatever it is works right out. Well that's a drug sure. That's like a real drug right. Unlike this like eat an egg yolk brazil nuts and beef heart and an egg yolks each the morning show with boomer esiason gregg giannotti boomer and geo. I'm jon meacham. Welcome to fate of fact season one. This series is about how and why fact became a casualty of war in the united states. Spoon please listen and follow. Fate of fact. A presentation of shining city audio. A jon meacham see thirteen original studio available now for free on odyssey apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - (03-26-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

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Dan Patrick Show - Hour 1 - (03-26-19)

"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week long. Casting from the Mercedes men. K I've got four Emmys. Oh, you're older. This is Dan. Patrick, welcome to the program. Gang's all here. Ready to go Seton? Paulie, fritzy? Mclovin. Yours truly on the Dan Patrick show in our new TV home. VR live be our live dot com. All three hours all eleven cameras. We take you behind the scenes and all four dentists, and yours truly you topics to dive into our celebrity bracket. Challenge. Brought to you by subway, one of the entrance. Bryan. Cranston, the great actor. He's on Broadway right now in the Broadway show network. Also gave us to great characters wonderful characters. Walter white from breaking bad and Hal from Malcolm in the middle. So Bryan Cranston will join us coming up a little bit later on eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Say good morning to our other TV partners the audience network you'll find. On direct TV channel two thirty nine. And we also Sigi morning to our three hundred sixty radio affiliates. If you'd like get in touch with the program Twitter handle at DP show phone number eight seven seven three DP show. We've had about forty eight hours to digest the news that gronk is retiring. So I think we should start thinking about the impact of that decision. Once again, the patriots will face his season of change. Not only do you lose gronk they lost their starting left tackle their best pass rusher. And Tom Brady is going to be forty two. And sometimes you get the feeling that the media and the rest of the NFL for that matter is waiting for New England to start to fall off the cliff. You know, we've had talk shows that debate shows that keep saying this is the year Tom Brady, this is the year. It feels like it's every year. Eventually you're going to be right that the patriots won't be the patriots the dynasty and Tom Brady won't be Tom Brady anymore because eventually he will retire. Patriots have been a dynasty in an age. Where dynasties aren't supposed to exist in grunk was the large part of that. And he was really the personality this team that was devoid of personality Bill, Bella check, always changing strategies, whether it's offensive -ly defensively, he's done that and Bella checks, the one who changed the way the NFL thinks about tight ends. Because who would have thought you paired two tight ends who could beat you down the field in Aaron Hernandez and rob gronkowski. So here's Bella check back to the drawing board in the basement and his chemistry lab in. Maybe you know, trying to redefine what the patriots will do this year, unless of course, gronk changes his mind, and at some point in the future decides that maybe he was just retired for a few months before the season starts, and he would like to come back. And I wonder if this is where gronk stays in touch with Tom Brady. I don't get the feeling that there's going to be a lifeline between gronk and Bella check where they're going to be checking in on each other daily weekly monthly. But it feels like gronk if. I am Brady. I stay in touch with grunk because without Eshelman gronk, then it's then it really changes for me when I have, you know, Brady out there, and I've seen the cast of characters that he somehow makes work they do have some running backs there. But you know, you lose that safety valve in gronk because when you need it a big play, including the Super Bowl gronk was always there Owens been there too. But that's where if I'm Tom Brady, I just wanna keep an eye on gronk see how he's feeling just in case. He does change his mind, which a does that have that option, and it certainly sounds like his agent drew Rosenhaus doesn't rule out rank eventually going on second thought. Maybe I'll come back pick up another ten million dollars. Yup. Brady, and it's like, August fifth, and you've gone through a couple of workouts. And you see receivers you just text a board question. Mark nothing else. Just one line board. Busy damn Patrick show. Brought to you by truecar the have terms like dealer price list, price, invoice that can be confusing for you. But truecar will sort of sort that out, and you will find out what other people paid for the car. You want to recognize a good price? When you're ready to buy newer used car. Visit truecar and enjoy more confident car buying experience. You can also vote on the meat Friday songs. We are at the elite eight headed down to the final four when we get to Minneapolis next week and two hundred and thirty three thousand as of the start of this show have cast votes for the elite eight matchups here. So a couple of surprises will play a couple of those songs a little bit later on in the program the trigger meet Friday songs Devon Booker dropped fifty nine in a loss against Utah. And there's two different sides to the story of him trying to go for sixty Booker who had seventy against the Celtics in a meaningless game. Last year was brought back into the game. He had fifty six. He was put back into the game that Utah was winning comfortably. And then the dramas started because he got two fifty nine and there was still time for him to get to sixty in Quin Snyder Utah's head coach instructed one of his players to foul somebody else on Phoenix. So Devon Booker wouldn't get the opportunity to get sixty. So which move bothers you the most Devon Booker is put back into get sixty or try to get sixty or that Utah was going to foul somebody else to foil his attempt to get sixty. Well, I have a problem with Utah. First of all you've you've won the game. Just put a defender on him. Okay. Just see how that were. Let him earn it. But put a defender on him. I know bringing him back in seems cheap. But you know, what you're not playing for the Phoenix Suns this year because Phoenix hasn't had much to cheer about. Now. They beaten some of the best teams in the NBA. But they're still the Phoenix Suns at the end of the day. And if Devon Booker is that night and shining armor for you know, a couple of nights out of the year, then fine bring him in something to celebrate. You know, you can you can decide if there's an asterisk neck next to it. Nobody's putting that next to the seventy put up against he's still put up seventy. No matter what he put up. So it's like when Kobe put up eighty one he was in a tight game. That's why he needed to put up eighty one or he stayed in. Because you know, the game was still hanging in the balance. This is a game that was over and you put him back in. Now, you can say, you know, really did you need to come back in. You got a chance at sixty. I'm okay with that, you know, young kid was he twenty three and he's going to come back in. Now, if you're Utah just play defense, right? Don't you pride yourself in your defense? Didn't you use to be a really good defensive team you keep up fifty nine? So you gave up fifty nine. And now you care about stopping him. And that's the only way to stop him. You're gonna foul somebody. I just thought it was really petty unquenched Niners part just say all right? You bring him in. I would even say, hey, go up to him. I'm gonna guard you I'm gonna I'm gonna make sure you don't get sixty. Make it competitive. Make compelling not taking the easy way out. He put up fifty nine on you where were you on those points? Now, we figured out how to stop him. We just found the other guy. Yep. I think is eager koskoff the head coach. It's best. I can do don't you have a problem with him? I putting his player back in the game. I guess Devon Booker can't really wave them off as a coach. I'm I'm good. This is silly. Well, he could have he could say look the game is over let you know jimmer for debt. Yeah. You get more Brun here. I think now eager shouldn't put them in a game. I I don't think I I don't have a problem with it. Not a big I think that they found out that he had fifty six, and then, you know, coach probably said you wanna try for sixty. So it, but I know maybe this soundless grade school isn't a bad message to send to the other eleven twelve guys. We're here to get this guy a his sixty we're here to win. But they were there last year to get him his seventy. Yeah. Yes. And then on the flip side, isn't it? A better message to send to your team, even when you're losing. And even though you let this do put up fifty nine on them. Like, no, you keep fight. Don't let them get sixty whatever you do. Just don't let him score sixty have a little pride. Well, their pride only existed when he got to fifty nine because I don't know if they had pride when he was getting his fifty nine there. But I I don't it's it's Phoenix. And there's not much to celebrate their my opinion. Now, you put him in let him go for sixty guys. Go from stones all the time, folks. You had a girl at the university of Oregon who needed a rebound for another triple double. She has the most triple doubles in the history of the NCWA. She missed the shot on purpose to get Ariba. They may have problem with that a little stick back. She better self when she was shooting. I think from three point range. Now, she said that she purposely missed the shot. I think it's I n s q is her name. But you know, I don't I don't hear anybody say anything about that. That's a pretty remarkable achievement though, by the way, what deliberately missing your own three pointer to get a rebound. That's remarkable. Well, I've been doing that for a good shooter. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Some of us missed the shot when we're not trying to miss the shot. She's that good. She could miss the shot on purpose. And then she had a clear path to get a rebound there. Yup. No jimmer for debt made his debut, and maybe a little jet lag. He was one for ten from the field. You know, it's going to have him back in the NBA. He got a big round of applause than anybody else did last night. You know back in Utah. Of course was the start BYU and a lot of these players on the floor. Like, we're not quite sure we get this weight. Who is this guy couldn't play in the NBA went to China came back, and he gets a bigger ovation than us and we played for the Utah Jazz. So that was last night with Devon Booker putting up fifty nine the blazers lost Yussef nursing a broken leg. And in today's social media. It's hard to avoid disturbing videos because if you're going through your feeds or you're going to websites, and then all of a sudden, you can't help it see it. And you know, it's almost like there should be like cautionary tape or police tape on these videos just to say, hey, you're going to be crossing a line here. You may not want to say, I have not seen it. I did not want to see it. I didn't need to see it. I I know what the end result is when you break your tibia, you know, breaking your fibula. I I don't I don't I don't need to see. It's like Gordon Hayward. I saw once I didn't see it. Again. I go back to Jason KENDALL. The pirates trying to beat out an infield grounder and broke his ankle. First base landed awkward, you couldn't. I probably saw that ten times. You know, I couldn't get away from it. Also, I was doing sports center at the time. If I was doing sportscenter last night or I was doing it today. I would have to see it Gordon Hayward. When he broke his ankle, you you can't help it see it. But this injury. It's you know, players will tell you how bad injury is with their reaction. You don't have to you know, nobody else say anything you can tell and when they walk away run away have their hands over their face. They're down on one. Neither praying then you know, that was serious injury. And he's a really good player and Portland's been a pleasant surprise this year because I think preseason people didn't think they can make the playoffs and you got that great backward. And he's a really talented big, man. You know, we give you fifteen sixteen ten and night good passer, but albums broken leg. NFL owners meetings underway in Arizona, and it feels like there's more replay on the way. Maybe this. You know, if you wanna go forward on instead of an onside kick, you can go forth and fifteen that feels like that got a pretty good chance of existing. It's just hokey. I know they wanna get rid of the onside kick. They don't want those collisions. They've changed the onside kick like, you know, what they do is they keep watering it down. They watered down the kickoff. Hey, we're just gonna move it up. So we kick it in the end zone right for touchback. They're trying to eliminate the kickoff. They want to eliminate the onside kick, and this is what they're opting for. Now. You could still use the onside kick, but it would be under these new rules here where you can't sort of have that that wedge that's running into somebody and trying to dislodge the football. But the fourth and fifteen while it is interesting, and I'll bet the abet the percentages of trying to convert a fourth and fifteen or very similar to converting an onside kick. Now is that the new version of the onside kick or the old? One of the on-site kick. That's what I'd be curious about. Plus there you know, looking at replay. I don't know if the NFL's officially said, hey, we really screwed up in New Orleans. We made a mistake there. But what they do. I don't want over. I don't want it like this overhaul. How 'bout you look at the official who made the mistake and then may be replaced him. I don't need to change replay because of one play there. But we've talked about this with the influx of money with gambling and getting these calls, right? Could you imagine? And I don't know how much money may have changed with the Rams beating the saints. But if you're the NFL in your now in business with these casinos and gambling, and you have fully embraced this. You got to get the call, right? It's it's it's more imperative now than it's ever been with the NFL. Because now it it. It's all about integrity. You must get that. Call right. And you didn't. But how do you? How do you prevent something? Like from happening. I still like when officials gathered together, and they say, hey, what did you see? Did you see something different here? You might break from that huddle and say, you know, what we're there's no flag on the play. Or you might have somebody say, hey, you know, John, I got you. You know, I definitely pass interference there. Yeah. Definitely. Yes. Trust me on that. Even if you have a home office, that's there to help the officials to say gathered together guys, you know, we got we got something there. I just you know, we got flags, you know, we we've got we're going to challenge of replay. And there's just so much that's going on there. And I think what's lost. Is you had an official who made a horrible mistake. Not the whole system. Mm-hmm. He did replace him. Or you have another official onsite who is in the replay booth to help you. He's that extra official. Why do we have more ficials in a college game than a pro game member we were gonna make them professionals and they wouldn't make mistakes anymore? They're going to make mistakes. But now with gambling. It's even more imperative you must get that. Call right. Yep. On the saints Rams. The the bad call there. The saints were three point favorite the saints would have won by three or more. I mean, more than three if they feel or the touchdown if assuming all went well as appear to be going, so. Yeah. That that change a whole line. Yeah. Fritzy? And are you good? If they see other things on that play. No looking back ago actually wasn't pass interference. But holding offense. No, no. You know? That's why when they say, oh, you know, we can look back on this. And I could see that. There was a flag on the play. And there was pass interference would if there's holding onto saints. Like, wait, am I only allowed to look at this little play in a vacuum? Here. Do we isolate that play and say just look at that nothing else? Imagine a kickoff returner. Punt return. You know, if there's a face mask, if there's something there, and I see then I can just say, hey, look right there. So we're opening up a Pandora's box here. Just get the call. Right. Have somebody help you on the play with that? Call just to help you. Yep. Oh, see I got it. The new term if they open up all this replay quote scope of review will be a big term next year. So let's say there's a pass interference penalty downfield than area is the scope of review and nothing behind it will be in play book at Dan that's bring in Jeanne stare there. Gene. What are you say? I'm said with it. That is not within the scope of review an say, the call stance to a man that's the line of the year. I'm still trying to process the quarterback portal. You know, I I mean, I'm having problems with that one the transfer portal transferred portal there, I just envisioned somebody in in like a little tube. And then you know, when you used to go to the Bank, and you could put your check in there, and you send a too busy. Like short, you quirky like the movie running man, remember. Just put somebody in there and just go and three Tate Martell going to the Miami hurricanes. They do shows up on Plainfield there. All right looks like the Mets and Jacob degrom have a deal. We'll take a break. We'll talk about that Noah Syndergaard, not happy that the Mets had to go to Syracuse and shake hands and sign autographs right before they played the national. We'll talk about that coming up as well. Mclovin. A poll question once again, you can vote on the trigger meet Friday songs that only on the app and also the B our live app if you would like to stream this show all three hours here. We'll come back. It's a nineteen after the hour. 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Have a poll question looks like the Mets of extended the Cy Young winner from the year ago. Jake degrom. The supreme make Noah Syndergaard a little happier. I didn't realize to is thirty. It's going to be thirty one this summer and looking at the numbers here. Jeff passan from the mothership, and it looks like it's a five year extension one hundred thirty seven and a half million dollars. According to league sources there's an option in twenty twenty four Jacob degrom. It includes an opt out after twenty twenty two the options picked up the total money for two grams. Six years one hundred seventy million dollars. So what's that average out to hear mclovin for Jacob degrom? Don't make me do math on air. Oh, no, six six one. So less than thirty million less than thirty. Okay. How long did you pitchers last that feels like light poll question? Would you rather pay one hundred thirty seven million for a pitcher or a hitter starting pitcher or hitter? I guess it would be case by case because I don't like if you're going to put a blanket statement out there that I would give the money to a pitcher instead of a hitter, it might not be fair to you know, how unique that picture is. Or how unique that hitter is. I I would rather spend bigger money on pitchers than I would hitters because I can take a hitter out of a game. You know, the pitcher is going to be on the mound, and you have to deal with him Yama club. What about injuries though with those mega-deals pitchers? Well, I don't like anything over five years and at this age, I would be a little bit nervous. But the Mets have nothing. I mean, really there's very little pulse with that team. And Tim tvos not gonna make the major league roster. He's going to join us tomorrow. I think Tim tebow. Syndergaard is good. We've been down this road before with the Mets pitching. Like it. Feels like every ten years we have a new wave of three aces because member we had Matt Harvey. It's Syndergaard and you had Jacob degrom. They have nothing to show for it. And you look at that team. How many players in the everyday lineup with the Mets unit. And it didn't used to be that way. You're you're in New York now other than pitchers how many position players can you name with this faceless team? And then they had to leave spring training. They had to go up to Syracuse. They have new farm system farm team in Syracuse. So they had to fly there. And then they have a game against the nationals coming up. I believe on Thursday so plane leaves late three hours delayed in Sarasota to go to Syracuse where all they want. The you know, the team to do is go up there and shake hands. Sign some autographs bring a little bit of notoriety. You know, do a full workout in front of the fans, it's free and just go in there, and you get to Salo to the New York Mets, but Noah Syndergaard had some comments he not pleased that he had to lower himself to go to Syracuse. Here. You got some of those comments, mclovin. I haven't right in front of me. But he basically said that winning shot it. Yeah. Syndergaard told the athletic you'd think we'd go to New York to get as adults are things in our affairs in order. But no, we've got to go to Syracuse. I he said, I'm sure the amenities in Syracuse aren't best for major league baseball team to go up there and have one last workout before the regular season starts, but those decisions are, but my pay grade. He also tweeted mentioned that this is not the kind of decisions that championship organization team battling for championship makes moments days for the season whether or not battling for championship. First of all, they're not do you have a problem with him thinking it or saying it I've a problem with him saying it, but what about thinking is? He doesn't have a point his job is to get ready for the season baseball players travel more than anybody and an extra travel day for a baseball player is he is he starting opening day. I don't know. I can see why he'd be upset though. Okay. If he's the starting pitcher on opening day, then I can understand where you know. Maybe you want teams will send a pitcher head to a new city. You know, when they're wrapping up a series against somebody else. So that happened so they allow them to kind of get into their routine, but I'm assuming Jacob degrom would be your opening day starter Nash, he went on to say, I don't think that's conducive the trip to winning ball games really that much travel. And it wasn't joking. They're going back and forth on that. He said what would you do with the time? Otherwise, he was I would get my apartment setup. Get my everything set up for the season. I travel plans ready. Okay. Why couldn't match leave a day earlier to go to Syracuse to then allow their players to get a day in the city before they go to Washington DC that that was my only thought when I when I read about it in the fact that he was upset that he had to go to Syracuse. And I'm sure there's nobody there going man can't wait to get Syracuse. We know that no one is even if you're from Syracuse and you play for the Mets, you're probably not going. I can't wait to get there. Because you have bigger things to worry about than do a meet and greet. But this is part of the job like it or not it's promoting the product. It's promoting you know, the minor league system. You're going to have players on that Syracuse team going to be playing with you. I don't know it just feels like Syndergaard saying, hey, I'm. Really special. I don't wanna go there. I shouldn't have to go there for Thursday, degrom assures or the schedule. Okay. So we syndergaards not even pitching on Thursday. I can understand if to Graham says, hey, can I just go to DC or can I go to New York? Now, I got I got a pitch against the best pitcher in baseball. Can I get my act together? Here. You can I follow my routine. I would have been fine with that. But Syndergaard didn't want to go to Syracuse. And I'm sure his other teammates didn't wanna go there. Well as well. But don't tell me, you know, championship teams don't do this. Maybe they don't, but you're not a championship team. Yeah. Glove his part of this function. I it's so hard to find a spot for a team to do minor league promotions. I mean, they're not gonna do during the season. They just have this new Phillies. You don't use a great city. I don't know. I thought it was a little mean to Syracuse. Yes. Because it's a slap in their face and those players who play for Syracuse who are in your minor league system. It's not ideal. Could the Mets have done a better job in accommodating? I feel like could you have gotten there a day earlier, you know, to be able to handle this get to New York. Get your apartments, you know, settled. I mean pitchers pitch every five days four days. Couldn't you fly up to New York and get your affairs in order. I don't know. Nobody does anything in spring training. Apple Syndergaard to be fair to him added that it's not about Syracuse itself. It's about traveling anywhere at this point leading up to the season. The wasn't about like the nightlife in Syracuse, which I'm sure they're not gonna indulgent. Well, he talked about that. They don't have the facilities there. Okay. I mean, it is a minor league team. And I'm sure Syndergaard remembers that and how would send a guard feel if the parent club came into his tone to work out with his him and his team mate? So it it's a little narrow minded on. I get it. I get it. But it's narrow minded I think on syndergaards part. He doesn't come off well here. Yes. Mclovin. I mean, it's the carrier dome. It's cool. I would want to practice their it's got history. And no one's going to notice the Mets and week. No. Like, we the only reason why we're well. Degrom getting a contract extension other than this. What is left when Tibo gets a chance to maybe be called up in September. And he's actually hosting a game show. Now. He not even playing for the Mets, and he's more successful than any of these other match there. I think that's that's as much as we'll talk about the Mets for the entire year. That's it. And that's your Mets recap. Yup. Did we have a Mets bet last year? They were like nine in one or something out of the gate, and I said they're not gonna make the playoffs. Yeah. Would you better? We'll we'll push like, no. And I seized up. I wouldn't bet it, and then they just tanked right after that lowest earned-run average, I five seasons in baseball history. Now, I'm talking about the light baller. So the lowest earned-run average in the first five seasons for a player in baseball history. Minimum seven hundred fifty innings, Tom Seaver number one, Ron Guidry number two tiny Bonham. In pitch for New York in nineteen forty who could forget tiny Bonham Louis Tian Dwight Gooden, Jerry Kouzmin and then Jacob degrom. So some pretty impressive names there on I five seasons in in baseball. Out of the day that passed out of the day stat of the day. Here comes that. What stat of the day? So Jacob degrom. Great pitcher deserve the Cy Young. But yeah, we're talking about the Mets and it has nothing to do with their performance on the field. Maybe Jacob degrom love Syracuse. He can't wait to get there. He wants to talk to you know, Jim behind. Let's go shoot some hoops there. Mclovin. What's poll question today? Okay. This one near and dear to you. Would you rather score fifty nine points in a loss if you're out of playoff contention or I'll give you the scores seventeen points in a win? Now, I'm asking you as you love the green light to shoot the ball. I would I would take the fifty nine and alone. What I'm out of the playoffs. They'll take fifty nine is that is that. Okay. Is that morally defensible? I mean. We're not we're not going to the playoffs and you're put up a decent number. And I think sometimes your teammates. Do celebrate with you. When you put up these milestones. Remember when Booker put up seventy and everybody was, you know, round him in the locker room, and he held up the piece of paper that puts seventy on their like wilted when he scored one hundred. Yeah, fritzy, or what if you know, you're gonna be back with the team next. It could affect a which are player you're able to get in the draft by that one winner loss and what happens. Well, they're already in the lottery. So nothing's changed. Now, if you said, hey, if we win one more game than our chances of being getting Zion drastically changed that might be a little bit different. They're nine I'm guessing if Phoenix was in jeopardy of losing that opportunity, then there would be some organizational tanking here. Yeah. Mclovin. How exciting is. We're going to Asian. You'd like Booker. Do. I think you have to understand no one sees him excess for few people. Yeah. And I keep calling Josh Richardson. Josh Jackson in you know, the Andre. Eytan Booker, you know, but if you get a point guard, and they gotta get a GM as well. But I mean, you have a couple of pieces in place Booker is a he's a sniper. I mean, he's a great great shooter wonderful shooter and eight and it's been a pleasant surprise. I think I don't know if he exceeded expectations, but he's been really good player. And somehow if you get I mean, imagine Jaama rant on this team running point with Devon Booker pretty good back court here. I'll go into battle with that backward. If you got Zion and Booker and de'andre Aiden. No, maybe make a trade for Lonzo ball. All right. You got something interesting here. It doesn't take long before team can be competitive and interesting, John I was just curious and now they couldn't answer. But if you ask the Andre Eytan and Booker and Josh X and all those guys in Oprah who are battling for minutes and notoriety would they want Zion Williamson on their roster deep down. I know. He's a great baseball player. But he would be the overwhelming focal point of that team for the next five years. Yeah. But you would be relevant. You can be doing numbers, but you're irrelevant. Right. But you would be the second most relevant player at best on a newly relevant team. You know, what I mean like your team is relevant, but it's Zion. And the sun's coming to town to face the Golden State Warriors. I don't think Klay Thompson has a problem with us. Right. I guess once I get hit to a certain point. You know, it feels like they're on other teams. You have guys who have a problem with. Us even when you're winning. But if I'm Phoenix and you bring in Zion. Now, all of a sudden, my performances will be seen by more people. I might not get a chance to get, you know, sixty again, but people will actually be watching our games when I get twenty six I would certainly opt for that. But that's a team that you know, they don't even have a face to Don Deandra Aiden, even Devon Booker. You know, they don't have a face but Zion will be that face. Yeah. For team. But you got a nice tan face. You're living in Arizona. Okay. All right. All right. I like that any other questions here. I got a couple of NFL. I could save them or throw them out there. Now, let's take a break because guests who came up with an idea for the af. A musician a rock a musician rockstar. If you want to call them a rockstar came up with an idea watching the af game. I guess that was when Memphis was playing. So have that for you coming up? You look mystified on the other side. I'm Carrie, that's a very broad tease. Yeah. Yes. This rockstar took to Twitter on Monday night. He was Bob Seger. No, Vince Neal. No, no, no. We're not guessing. So when Memphis played Birmingham on Sunday, then this rockstar took to Twitter after watching Johnny Manziel and everything that was going on Morrissey at that's definitely once she said Birmingham. I was like, I know it's Morrissey, it's not Birmingham England Birmingham. Birmingham. More different. Okay. I'll come back with that. We ever play the day coming up. We'll settle on a poll question. This is the Dan Patrick show. Every car comes with its share stories, right? That ding and your bumper when you nervously picked up a first date or maybe the luxury package, you got after big promotion. Maybe it's the mileage you save by riding your bike all summer while you can't put a price tag under stories now with truecar you can at least find out what your car's worth when it's time to sell or trade it in just go to truecar simply enter your license plate number and watch. 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Lakers will visit the jazz tomorrow night. They started tracking dunks as a stat in one thousand nine hundred ninety seven. That's probably why will Chamberlain doesn't have the most dunks in a season. I'm guessing for a guy who scored fifty points a game. And a lot of those were Dungs. Why is it? We started keeping stance on a cyst in the NC double A in the early eighties sacks in the late seventies in the NFL or early eighties in the NFL. And now dunks in one thousand nine hundred ninety seven in the NBA. Yes. Mclovin. To me. It's even crazier the dunk tra- outlawed for a time. Well, because of wilt, and then they took it out with Lou Al cinder right now, the NBA ever, Al all I don't think. So that must have killed you in. You're coming up. They're probably backed by the time you got to college. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You gotta have that back when I'm back in college. My air game. Does he play the day brought to you by Dollar Shave Club? How did you get ready today? No matter what you do Dollar Shave Club has everything you need and right now get a Dollar Shave Club starter set just five dollars each after you started said product ship at a regular price. Get yours at dollarshaveclub dot com slash Patrick. I was mentioning teasing that there is a rockstar. It was watching the alliance of American football. And this was the express iron game. And just to let you know believe that's Memphis against Birmingham. So Johnny Manziel's. Now. There was a moment where it wasn't a fight that broke out. But there was a little skirmish back and forth. Johnny Manziel was saying something to a defender. He was Mike dub and leave it to Marshall Mathers Eminem who tweets to the af please entertain this thought regarding the af iron and af express game allowing. The players to actually fight would be key to the league success like hockey. I would watch every game. Even though there's no Detroit team yet hint don't blow it. Sincerely marshall. Well, he immediately became the most recognized or notable fan of the of and saying that why not let them fight. Yeah. Polling if you're the alliance, do you consider it after the publicity? You just got no Madeleine now pleasantly operation in new. Well, let's see how desperate you get. Right. And then you might incorporate that, but Eminem thinks that that might be a chance for them to be successful feel finding football football player fights had the least actual injuries because it's guys they may break knuckle. But kind of silly you got your helmet on. Yeah. Yeah. Not too many guys get hurt in a football fight as long as you. Keep your quipped on. Let's see an appalling just sent me a poll question whose career would you want Eminem's or gronk fair topic Eminem is pretty historical in the rap community known for a long time gronkowski could go down for the next fifty years as the greatest tied in NFL history. Both have longevity household names for different reasons. Well-paid I would take gronk screw. Moving forward. Now. I think. Yeah. Before and after. Yeah, I I think Ron I don't know. I I'm sure that Marshall Mathers is still touring. I mean, he's not the Eminem that we had you know, decade ago. Yes, I think Eminem is by far the highest selling rapper of all time, and like top ten of all time anybody. Yeah. Selling that's pretty good. Oh, you said unbelievable career. But if you're talking about longevity. I dunno where gronk is going. But if he's going to go into wrestling or acting or whatever it feels like he's got a hot brand now. But. You know, got a hall of fame. They're both hold famers. I would probably go gronk. Seems like he has less. Trouble than Marshall. Mathers does seems like gronk is able to sort of roll with things and what's your shelf life as a rapper you wrap when you're fifty five what what's Marshall matters like early forties. He's forty six and hit his first album came out about twenty twenty years ago, maybe twenty two years ago, and he's still doing it. I mean, that's pretty good long. Jen. He, you know, he's not on the radar like once was so it's a little quieter with what he's doing. But you know, this should help this this'll help record sales. I'm sure with suggestion. They should fight more in the af who knew that Marshall Mathers was watching. Making Commissioner there. That'd be good. I so we ever poll question. Yeah. I put up which would you rather do score fifty nine in a win. Or I mean in a loss or seventeen in a win. If your team is out of it early front runner is fifty nine. I mean, I'll put a fifty nine. But are people supposed to say winning is everything is that the cliche onto the playoffs? Yeah, you're right and take, but you hate the process. So now, you're okay with I give Phoenix credit. They actually try to win games. I mean, they they beat in the best teams in basketball this year data to score fifty nine points and lost by thirty points less. What do you mean? They're trying to win games. Well, I'm not saying that they they're systematically tanking like other teams are they beat Golden State, and they beat Milwaukee. I mean, they're just not good. So they naturally stink. They don't need help from up above to say guys, we need to go out there, and we're gonna put a crappy product on the floor. They do. Play hard to try to win that just not very good. Is that sadder that management doesn't have to put in place the lesser players or the starters, not good? Do we need to do anything with it? Now. Now the bull trust me. They'll take care of it on their own booker's. Second career fifty point game making him one of four players with multiple fifty point games before turning twenty three. That list includes Rick berry he had seven of those LeBron James three booker's tied with Kyrie Irving with two apiece. Pretty impressive list there, but Utah Utah play defense on him when he had fifty nine and then they decided they weren't gonna play defense on him as he was going for sixty. We'll just take the ball out of his hands. That'll do it. Just foul that guy over there. Make sure he doesn't get his sixty. Just seem kind of petty. Like, what are we gonna hold this against Utah homeland gun you give up sixty two Devon Booker? You you gave up fifty nine. It's not that much of a difference. Fritzy, I believe it's one point difference. Isn't it? It is. Exactly what. Okay. Thank you. I wouldn't sure status today. Stat of the day stat of the day. Comes that. What stat of the? By the way, the great Bryan Cranston, who I think is as good actor as we have in this generation might be the best actor given what he's been able to do whether it's on Broadway in movies TV shows. 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Rob Friedman, aka @PitchingNinja

The Twelve Six Podcast

56:34 min | 2 years ago

Rob Friedman, aka @PitchingNinja

"What's up guys? Welcome back to the twelfth six podcast. I'm your host, Colin McCue, the super bowl's finally over. And you know, what that means? That means we are just days away from spring training baseball. And I for one could not be more excited. This is my final year before free agency. So I'm really excited to get down to Florida. See my Astros teammates to try to soak it all in and enjoy the hell out of my eleventh spring training. And who knows by the time. This airs maybe Bryce Harper. Manny Machado will have jobs. I guess we'll just wait and see. Anyway, my guest today is one of those famous Twitter personalities in the baseball universe. Rob friedman. The pitching ninja he scoured game footage daily to showcase the nastiest pitches thrown in baseball. And I'm proud to say I've been featured on their time or two. So it was my pleasure to interview rob here in our hometown of Atlanta, Georgia, we talk youth baseball. And the best ways to teach kids to pitch who the nastiest pitchers are in today's game in his Twitter suspension and subsequent bromance within obe-. Remember too. Subscribe to the podcast. So you're always up to date when new episodes air and leave us a review, tell us what you think. So that this podcast can always get better and better. And without further ado, I hope you enjoyed today's conversation with the pitching Injia, rob Friedman. Caja but with. Taking rob thanks for being here. I appreciate it. I'm so excited to have you here. Number one. You're in Atlanta guy. So we're doing this person which I love number two. Your kid goes Georgia Tech, which is where I do all my workouts. That's where we are right now. We'll get out on on top of the baseball field. And number three. You're my favorite Twitter accounts. Follow. That's so sweet. I love you too, man. I wish that I could say it was just me. But it's I mean, you're everywhere everywhere and Melby are everywhere on the internet. Plenty of baseball players that I know including me, and Lance and Charlie and garett we are obsessed with watching these gifts as a gift suggests what do you call it? I say gifts, I still I think Lance was saying Jif, we're gonna call it gifts to me because once again, Lance knows everything about pop culture, and he would tell me if I was wrong. But it's so fun. And I honestly, I'm not sure how it went this long without being made you are tapped into something. So at the heart of what baseball fans want, which is to watch nasty baseball plays. Whether it's defense. There's home runs. Those things have been done in the past ESPN's done stuff. You've seen old baseball films of guys make an amazing place or hitting home runs at miles. But watching pitchers throw unhittable pitches is new and you did it. How did they come about? I thanks. It really started through trying to teach a kids like trying to teach kids mechanics teach kids pitched grips threw me coaching. And you know, I started probably what twelve or so years ago with my own kid and coaching other kids, and the biggest thing I didn't want to do was to kind of teach what I was taught just because I was taught it or teach. What there's always those local guy who played pro ball and wants to teach. What right. Yeah. But there's so many different ways to do things that I guess the way I did was was having a legal background. I hate admit that because then people don't talk to me when I heard you were a lawyer shut this thing down. Yeah. I might have to do. So so basically trying to learn as much as I could. So I didn't ever teach the wrong thing. And really try to try to distill it down into the simplest form, and then build it back up is kind of started. So what I've found through getting different gifts of pitchers for start breakdown mechanics and showing different ways of pitchers moved which I thought was cool and other people other coaches on Twitter would start going back and forth. And we'd have discussions first arguments. Always first arguments over the internet. It's it's amazing. And it's one of beauty of of of one of the beauties of Twitter is you can argue shutdown. Are you dig your heels in and not listen, which is what most people do as an attorney. Also as a person, I ll argue, and I'll push, but I also listen to I sometimes I push to hear what the what the other person has to say and to really dig at. It and get the guts of it down and challenge them. So that I can listen and learn, and that's I think a better way of doing it. Then just fighting a hundred percent you're actually trying to get somewhere. Right. Right. And people don't get that. Sometimes like, they think I have an agenda if I'm pushing at it. But I really don't I'm like trying to learn a lot of times even at home with my wife. I will argue the other side. And she like why are you doing that? I'm like, I don't know. 'cause then next argument I have them taking that position the one that she just took. Yeah. Someone else. So. Yeah, you're practicing both sides of both sides of every argument that makes sense. And you're you come from a youth baseball background coaching background teaching background. Really you mentioned earlier that you've taught law and so being teacher and being a also a student of the game for a long time. I love hearing the idea that not everybody does the same thing. Not everybody moves the same way. Not everybody throws the same way. And that's not a bad thing. That's a good thing. And it makes a lot of people uncomfortable. So if you had for example. I think one of the first guys I talked to Billy Wagner, and we were talking about Randy Johnson. And he had his he he played with Randy Johnson. He he was like, oh, yeah. Randy did this with his lower half. And I said, you know, actually, he didn't use his lower half really well uses upper half. Really arm action was was I mean, he's got a huge wingspan. But if Billy Wagner through like Randy Johnson, it would it would never work for me. Probably seventy miles an hour. If Randy Johnson through Billy Wagonry, probably fall apart in in two seconds. So the fact is that everybody moves differently. And if you try to put them in a box, I think you're doing everybody a disservice versus trying to help a kid. Absolutely. And so are pitching coaches Brent Strom who's been around the game forever. He's one of my favorite people in the game. But he is very much a student of that of that philosophy that not everybody is the same. There are certain things that great pitchers do. Well, and these little tiny mechanical things or these little movement patterns, the he calls them are things that you can teach. But not everybody is going to do each of those exactly the same. Way. Remember when he came when I first met him, he came to me with this binder full of like old newspaper clippings straw me that we have the internet now, you can make PowerPoint presentation for me, and he's gotten better he's gotten much better from that perspective. But he is he loves it. He loves learning. He loves challenging himself and therefore challenging his pitchers to do things and think think a little bit differently to get marginally better. So I've met I've met Brent strong back in the day actually took my kid to go to go work with them as well as oh he's and he's he's fantastic. Actually, the way he taught using the gluts was a squeeze your but together like you're going to like you don't wanna fort right was fantastic. I mean, that's great at great advice. Also scared the crap out of me in an airport and said, you just yelled at me for no reason. Like, I know you, and I was like what this very struggling TSA stuff. Yeah. He's he's a good, dude. He's fantastic. He's one of my favorites. But basically what you've done if I'm getting this, right? As you're taking those same things that me. Doing you're taking the the clippings and the still shots of people moving the right way. And you're just making gifts out of him and making account out of them and saying everybody Wook look at what the best do. I've been on there. I'm not the best. But I appreciate that. I do some of the things that some of these guys do as well. I'm still learning. How to do how to move the right way at you know, eleven years in a Pro Bowl, and as thirty one year old pitcher, none of none of us are there yet. And for me when I go back and look at some of these when I will look at Noah Syndergaard throw or adamant Evita who we were just talking about they do things differently. But the way the way that their body moves some of it makes more sense to me when I look at them do it versus when I look at myself, do it. And so I love what you're doing. I love the fact that this is out there for not just for kids and for kids developing, but for big league, ballplayers me and Lance have looked at curve balls on there and said, how are we doing this differently? How could we do this better? So I appreciate this phenomena work. Oh, my. Pleasure. And the the beauty of it is stored on the mechanic side. And then went to kick grips. How do you make the ball move? Like like, you do and looking at different arm angles different grips, obviously that changes with people too because your arm slots, different your hand size different. You just grip the ball differently of different spin rates different things work better for others. And I think giving people kind of a bunch of different choices and giving coaches a bunch of different choice and giving kids. So when they're told like, oh, you need to do this. And they see pros not doing that. They may ask their coach and say, well, you're you said do this. Why is this guy doing that? It gives empowers players to as well as coaches with stuff, and then then later on I took it with seeing really cool stuff going on and realizing that people just like watching nasty stuff like fans just love the amazing ability of today's players to not only throw the crap out of the ball. But the get ridiculous movement. Like, I mean out of or you you had a few sliders. When you were trying out that ever is like what the hell's that? Right. Yeah. That was fun. It was like it was just nice for me to go back and watch it over and over again on a give and say like, wow, I really did that but house of highlights has been around for for a while and house highlights does that does it for basketball. They showed nasty dunks. And like these crazy athletes doing amazing things and honestly your account when I'm on their makes me feel like a rockstar. It makes me feel like I'm just dunked on a dude when I throw a nasty slider and get a swinging amiss. And I think you've been able to give that to to baseball which it hasn't really been there before when did you realize that this was this was legit? This was like bigger than you, probably imagine. It was going to be. I still don't think it's legit. Oh, it's so I I mean actually getting DM's texts from players when they're saying not only. Hey, thanks for feature. But they're players that will tell me either in game or after game like literally in game. Like, I just do this nasty pitch you need to get that swear. And then other players won't say who they are have told me that about their teammates. Like, you gotta get this one where so and so looked like a a full swing at this pitch and go back and get an enemy. I wasn't even watching a game to look for it. But I went back and found and put it on there. So they can give each other crap in the in the in the dugout. Yeah. That's that's Polaris. No. We are not on our cell phones during games. It was a delayed. Text message for sure it didn't happen during the game. I was going back and watching watching video Marcus Stroman throwing a slider to Evan gattis. And I remember that in my head. I remember watching that game and him throwing that I was watching it on TV inside and saying how did he do that? And how did out gatty take that? And then to see it on their relive that whole conversation with throw and with with gatty was was hilarious to me. But I love that. It's part of it's part of the game that when you're watching it live, or when you're watching it on TV, you see it. But you probably don't appreciate it. The same. Way that a home run is or a, you know, a diving catch or something that I think that's true. I think to some extent sometimes I look at that. Like, the Stroman one that you're mentioning I looked at it. And I was like holy crap. Like, I don't care if it's a ball or not a ball. It just I don't see how pitch move that way. Can't move that fast that direction that late. Yeah. I mean, it was it was it was nuts and just showing that to folks. Like, hey, this is something to to shoot for or. Hey, these guys are just amazing. And some of these guys are are are you should appreciate the talent that you're seeing. Now, not like back in the day. When I you know, it's it's it's cool to see what's going on. Now. There's so many exciting players, and I think it's cool to see MLB kind of embracing that to really start to showcase some of the crazy talent that's out there versus just shutting all that down. And and and I think kids wanna see too. Yeah. And I want to come back to that. I want to talk to that to that point about a Moby, and and your suspension of your count and coming back kind of stuff you have to watch. So much baseball. Like, I can't imagine how much baseball you gotta watch to see all these pitches or to go back and watch all these bitches. Have you always been a baseball junkie? I've always been a baseball junkie, actually, my wife, and I was just thinking on the way over here. My wife, and I had season tickets to the the Braves five years before we even had kids. So I've always loved the the game. And with the availability of streaming. It's made it a lot better to go watch every game. Yeah. So there pitchers obviously, I follow more than other pitchers like I'll notice either, you know, relievers in I'll I'll switch games that. I'm watching or somebody else just watch their whole start. Like, I know that what if I'm watching max Scherzer, I'm gonna see something. I've I haven't seen before it's almost like an alarm on. And then sometimes sometimes there are people like so with my notifications. I'm not one of those guys who turns their notifications off. I see them, right. And it's the beauty of it is I get to see what people like, hey, do more of that. I also get to see when a pitcher is coming in like they will say, hey, Jordan Xs coming in. And he just do one hundred five mile or a hundred five mile an hour pitching. Like, okay. I'll stop what I'm doing and go get that. Yeah. So yeah, I do watch a lot of baseball games. But I also do it in a kind of educated way with with kind of targeted about at least certain pitchers, and then some new guys coming up where I I've heard a lot about and I want to show, folks. So it's it's it's a it's an art. Would it be? Would it be okay? For us to shout out to ninja nation and say when you're watching baseball games, and you see something disgusting. Let you know. Oh, heck. Yeah. Absolutely. All right. You heard it here for us guys. When you when you see something nasty in baseball or something you never seen before hit Raba better. And we will he'll he'll try and feature it or very least hill appreciate your your input on this. If you like he'll at least give guys that is that is a lot. That's a big deal. These heck it is. That's a big deal. All right. Just you don't have to you don't have to be stream Lee specific here. But I do wanna know a few pitchers that are your favorite to watch. When they come on. You're like, I know in a see something you mentioned match back shares her, but who are two or three other guys that are just in your minds the best to watch. I would say number one is calling McCue because now come on just because I got you a water and coffee. This is kinda nice. Don't sell yourself short. I mean, you said I only give one time and I put it together. Like right after that pasta. There were there were enough. I wanted a drawing of you, man. A we have to talk about the we're gonna talk about that right now. All right question answer question is I if Blake Trianon is in a game. I'm watching that. I'm dropping everything I have because there's nobody that throws the ball like that. I mean, his slider is underrated and ridiculous. But his sinker is is off the charge. And that's how he got the nickname, which he hated the way into that was no, no, no, no. I heard it through several different indirect sources that. Hey, man. He really doesn't like being called the witch. And I'm like, I'm not into to tell someone that something. They don't like it was all in love Blake. It was absolutely was. Yeah. All right. Who else who else you got on west, Jordan Hicks, us things? Like, I think people are sleeping on him. Despite the fact, he throws a hundred how do you sleep idea because he's just he doesn't strike is out or he's just throws hard. Did his twenty one years old exactly any throws a hundred five mile an hour sinkers? I mean, you look at the way the ball moves. And you look at his slider to which is underrated. I mean, you his slider is is filthy in. You have some starters. I think th- or is crazy. Yeah. Especially when he's going, right? He his changeup is filthy. And that's another underrated pitch. I got another guy throws one hundred miles an hour is best bench as change. What? Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. And there there is actually one time where he this season where he threw a ninety eight mile an hour sinker. That announcers called a change. They change speeds on that one a little off Mike do those ninety eight miles an hour. I always ask our our announcers because right now, we're in the press box, Georgia Tech. And from this angle, if you're not watching a monitor you really can't tell what pitches which I've talked to a couple of answers Astros. And they're like, yeah. Nowadays, you have to watch the monitor or else you're in trouble used to be like, okay teeth are fast ball or a bigger ball or a little slow. Or something like that. But now with Lance throws, his sinker and his changeup. There's like six or seven hour difference. But they both moved the same way. You can't tell no Atlanta's stuff is. Absolutely. Yeah. It's it's ridiculous. Also made his his two seamer. I don't know if you saw like during during spring training. I noticed how much it was moving. And like, did you gotta tell me how you throw that. And he was so cool. We just went to the locker room took a video of his two seamer. DM to to me and said, and I said, hey, can I can I tweet this out and help kids in? He is one of those guys that has always looking to pay it back pay it forward two kids. And so I ended up tweeting out it just caught on. And he was helping kids. Learn what how to drip, a two seamer. That's one of those things that there are a lot of unwritten rules in baseball and a lot of unwritten rules in pitching. Specifically, one of them has always been keep your information proprietary like if it's yours into your grip, and you you don't wanna give anybody you want to give away to secrets no trade secrets guys at this point there. Is so much information out there that if you're trying to if you're trying to hold something back because you you think somebody else is going to figure it out. You're saying, you know, we you can you can track every pitch for the last fifteen years. It's been thrown and you can zoom in on what your grip is. And how your hands moving, and, you know, every every different piece of data on your pitch can be found and can be tracked. So I don't know. I don't know what we're doing trying to trying to hold it back and for me. It's fun. It's fun to break. Those molds and say I want to see the next Lance mccullers as a fifteen year old start working on that group now. So that when he's twenty one twenty two glance he's throwing eight mile our bangers in the World Series. Absolutely. And I think going back. I don't know that it even gives away a secret. Because a lot of times, you know, I may try to throw your cur ball's gonna suck. Yeah. I mean, so it's not a matter of that. It's trial and error. You I have dropbox with a with a folders for all pitch grips just to give people choices like I might try to do this. And when I'm coaching. I do the same thing. So I will be like, hey. Hey, you know, try this try that. And if it's working it's working if it's not scrap it and something else will link to that to that dropbox to everybody listening can can go and see honestly, see all the hard work you've put in and the to wealth of information out there. The one of had a hard time, reverse engineering is Stroman sinker, and he won't and he keeps that secret. And he's got some weird voodoo grip that he puts on it like crosses fingers and does something and he gets really wicked movement change up tight movement on and I've asked him before. And he's like, yes. A secret. We'll yeah, we'll talk about it mean stroll talk about in spring training and see if we can see if we can dissect it 'cause I've tried to throw a sinker before my life. Like, you're saying I've tried to throw this curveball as work. I tried to throw Charlie's sinker Lanta singer. And I just might my hand my arm don't move that way. And so I'm always looking for new things and trying new things to try, and you know, develop as a pitcher still that's how slider came along. It was it was trial and error, really. And it. Ended up working for me, and I tried to refine it a little bit. But it's a great way of looking at things in a great way for kids to to figure out how to pitch right? And and start like kids wanted explorer. I mean when you're a kid you tried to all different batting stances all everybody like back in the day due to Louis Tian stuff. And and you try I think too many coaches boil the fun out of the game. And don't let them do the trial and error thing. And this is one way to do it. And and instead letting them explore maybe maybe they do something totally different. And they just break the mold. Why why are you limiting their options and telling telling kids they can't do something. Yeah. That's a that's a very very good way of putting it a we usually do questions and stuff at the end. But I'm gonna I'm gonna kinda mix and match here because we're on the subject if you could give a piece of advice, I usually say to young player, but in your in your case with your experience and your expertise to young coach who's coaching youth baseball or even in high school or college. Baseball. What would you say to to those who are trying to coach pitching? I would say there's not one way to do it. Explore different body. Type. See how a player naturally moves. Don't come in with preconceived notions. Keep challenging yourself. I think one thing that I do every day because I tell my players have always. I mean, I told my son you don't have to work twenty four hours a day improve a little bit every day. So we tell our players to improve a little bit every day as a coach she should be approving a little bit every day and just going out there and learning, and that's one reason why started what I was doing. Which is hey, I putting pressure on myself. I have to have a new tweet every day or something. And if and and just try to learn a little bit every day and be better and after awhile it adds up. So listening to your players instead of talking at them. And and having a toolbox versus a a box lawyer. That's great. That's great. Putting it I love to walk. I was talking about. I the key ring IVA keyring that is at this point it so full I can barely. More keys to it. But and I've been adding to it since I was you know, thirteen year old kid just starting to pitch and each one. Is there little keys that kind of bring me back to where I'm supposed to be where my most efficient movements are and I might go through fifteen or twenty of them in the bullpen, and none of work, and that's what I look back strong. And I'm like, hey, I tried all these little things. What else you got for me? Let's think about this in a different way. And you're right like with with coaches coming up if you try and teach every kid to same way. Or if you think you've found the, you know, the magic formula for how to how to be a pitcher, you're wrong. You're just not right. I think that's one of the biggest problems with people trying to market stuff to youth baseball trying to help I think they really do try to help. So there's a lot of people online that sell stuff coaches that are trying to help kids, and they say, well, if you do this you're gonna you're gonna throw gas. It may have worked for them, and it may work for some folks. Which is why add to my toolbox. If I see a kid that moves a certain way, I'm going to use that technique with them. But you have to be open minded and say not everybody can do that. And I think coaches someti- or or these people that are selling to baseball sometimes lose that. And they they get all marketing. And if you don't do this you're going to get hurt or if you do this you're going and without actually understanding that everybody's different. Yeah. It's hard to make promises as hard make promises with a sixteen year old kid of what he's going to end up being. He just can't do it. And I love the is out of Dr line a love what they're doing Cressey. And those guys who have really I mean, they put their life and their their heart and soul into figuring out. The performance metrics of how to be a good pitcher. And once again, though, sometimes that worse for guys, and I've seen it not work for guys. Absolutely. I'd actually it's funny that you mentioned Dr Lanka's Kyle. And I were talking probably Latin maybe last week or the week before about how we both started out on pitching message boards, so before whole Twitter stuff, and we used to we used to post post my kid or other players that I wanted to help and he would post what he was thinking about it. And. I was like Deutz thinking about the game. Really, really? Well. And really, yeah. I like, the the the scientific mindset, I'm my dad was a math teacher. I have I think mathematically generally, but he comes at it from an engineering standpoint. And I loved hearing his thoughts back then. So we're talking about two thousand eight two thousand nine into ride, and he's he's their way. They're looking at it. They're tearing down the existing structure and just looking at things totally different. And and helping kids in new ways and air Cressey is fantastic. I mean, he's one of the great guys baseball. Yeah. We still have. Well, we've got plenty of guys who who work out here at tech who still use his program and still, you know, console with him, and he's is the major league level and guys always trying to get a little bit better Ida guy in college. We used to say I'm just trying to suck a little bit less every day. And that's one way of looking at it. But just just building blocks and foundation and just trying to add a little piece here and there to get a little bit better every day. I think it's the only way to do it and after a while up. Yeah, for sure adds up, and hopefully, it it turns into being able to play for longer, or at least be able to have more fun doing something a little bit better. Not everybody's going to be a college athlete that everybody's gonna be pro athlete not ever going to make the big leagues, but you can still have fun playing baseball. And getting better baseball. No matter what level you're at. And the beauty of it is and this I think is an important point is it's not just about getting better baseball. It's getting better at Lyft or job. Whatever if you learned techniques to get you good at baseball. Lot of the people. That are good at sports are also good at their jobs and good because they know what it takes what it takes to be a part of a team takes to drive themselves. Be better everyday challenge themselves challenge. Others around them. It's an important trait to have regardless of how are you making? Yeah, we talked about that earlier to that like higher like hiring ex baseball players are ex athletes because there is that that work ethic that you can't replicate other places. Absolutely. I think it's very important. Let's talk about these drawings again. I know I've I'm married to an artist. So I have I've not run these by her yet. But I will because I want to get her critique on them. But how how did that start? And what program do you use? So it started. This is kind of funny. I was on a trip to Japan, and I can't get away from Twitter for more than twenty minutes without having like withdrawal symptoms. Yeah. I know it's it's ridiculous. So I'm on the flight had wifi. I was watching a game. And I think it was actually to Tucson was pitching. Yeah. And out Atlanta bread. Yeah. We go to so I'm watching it. And like I need to give that because curve ball, and I gotta get and I couldn't get it to work. So I was pissed off sitting in my seat and just opened up Microsoft paint and started drawing on my screen with my finger. That's how it started. Because I never thought it looked so well done God. They're beautiful. My daughter went to. To Cal arts. So she is an animator. So you you understand. Yeah. I saw. Yeah. I'm terrible. She definitely did not get from you know, she did not yet assure not the Willie though they've caught on. And now you've got a series of them a. Yeah. There are people that want shirts with them. Oh, we buy. It's going to be crazy. If we can do it. I actually tried to get beat approve that still haven't heard back. Hey, MLB if you're listening. My drawings are awesome. Yes. Have your people talk to his people? And let's get this thing done. Yeah. I'll donate it to whatever. 'cause they wanted to donate it to. I just think it's kind of fun. I mean, it's amazing that people like it stick figures, and it's terrible. But it's kind of so bad that may be it's kinda good. I don't know. That's part of it. You can't be in the middle. It's going to be the really bad or really good nailed. The really bad. Yeah. I forget killed even gifts out of my drawings. I had like a Chris sale. Bellybutton ring. Dancing and stuff. Yeah. I'm pretty I'm pretty talented, my suck attuned and you enjoy which is the big it's it's the number one thing for all yard of south there. Enjoy your work. Even if no one else does. But it'll be is. I don't know everything is against this backdrop of MLB, they don't own us. But they do own the rights to our performances. And so I know you've had some issues in the past working around that let's talk about that a little bit your account got suspended for a while. Was it last year? It was it was in April of last year actually started season. So how did that how did that come about? So I had hosted a gif of Noah Syndergaard throwing a ridiculous. I still don't understand how how it went. It was like which craft FU stuff. It was a ninety seven mile an hour sinker that the one from behind the home plate. It looked like it was knows a different one. So this was going that looked like it got caught in a tornado. Yeah. The storm took it and and just yen. And I noticed that. I mean, it was windy that day on Neto somebody whiffed on it. I want very much could have been the catcher. I don't wanna call you out. Nobody wanna call. I'm not going to use names about about anybody involved in that play. But somebody might have whiffed on it. And I understood why I mean, it was crazy two-way it moved it. It literally looked like a like some supernatural force Kat. It's I- gift it out there, and I slow it down. So it wasn't the MLB feed. It was MLB feed. But it wasn't the the exact video to try to essentially the movement on it because it was jaw-dropping. So I put it out there, and then KFC who ends up. I mean, this has a happy ending good ended up tweeting it out retweeted. And then and then actually tweeted it out, I guess ripped it and then tweeted out under his own name like and everybody's like, wait. You can't do that as a nation came out your defense. Right. So he was like, well, you don't own it. MLB owns it. And and then borstal nation came out after me, which they have a pretty big nation to and there's extensive extensive and. They were all over it. So they ended up word got back to MLB who then contacted Twitter as you take down notice right Twitter than suspended my account. I and so literally in the middle of the night. I was having a hard time sleep. And I didn't know my count was suspended. I look at my phone. I'm getting text messages from a lot of people. Yeah. And I'm like what happened and they're like, dude, you're are you blocking the on Twitter? And then they realize that my count have been taken down. I literally went back to sleep within ten minutes of that. Because I knew it was going to have played it out in my head. That's where my legal background right worked. As like, I am not in this. I don't make money on it not trying to make money on. I'm trying to help kids. Learn and trying to help pitchers get better in everything I do an MLB's best interest. And they will understand it at some point. If they don't, you know, an pack my bags, and they don't like it. And well, I don't I can not waste eight hours a day or whatever is doing. Twitter so woke up the next morning and waited for like, I I could see notifications. But I couldn't say anything to them. And it was amazing. The kind of outpouring of people MLB guys. I think health in a rare was the first guy to say, yeah. You can't take down pitching engine. And he was like posting gifts screaming I didn't. Even know he followed me at the time. I I just it was so random that. He did that I'm front office guys were saying stuff guys associated with him OB were saying stuff. So later, I mean, it's a long story short. There were some actually already long story. So I can't really say that. That's all right. Yeah. Whatever could be longer. Yeah. I'll try to tell try to circle back. So there was some articles written on it MLB ended up reaching out to me. And instead of this whole we don't we don't they said we love what you do. We think it's great. We think it showcases the game, and we want we just wanted to be legit and want you to to basically kind of be a. Pendant contractor for us versus you know, just doing stuff out there. Because because we love what you do. And we want we want you to do more of it. Perfect. Yeah. So it actually ended up having a very happy ending. Yeah. And they were actually was better for me too. Because instead of like always wondering if you know if they were gonna say something when put something out there being in that weird gray middle. Yeah. Instead, it was like cool. They like it. I'm going to do more. So it made me do more and more of it and actually go down and break, a breakout, some video editing software and things that I now with overlays, which I guess people have really liked that kinda mainstreamed overlays doing red circles of death. We really liked I know Lance would always do this. Can you do that? So being to do overlays and stuff adding and then motion trails and stuff to pitch as well. It made me invest more in what I was doing just because I was like I'm not gonna get shut down because they love what I do. And it was kind of more reinforcing that it was doing good. They under. Stood. I was doing good at it made me feel better about the whole thing. So it ended great and actually, and I made up with barstools well with KFC, and I k he said, hey, you know, we're cool. We're and I think we did some gifts together later on good all ended up. Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's a happy. It's a happy ending the story, and you got way more way more famous because of it. And this is this account Twitter traction. I don't know how many followers you have before you got shut down. But afterwards. Yeah. I think I had in the forties. Maybe then announced hundred four or something like that. Yes. I mean, it's amazing giving autographs on the street and all that. How do you do that? How do you give? I mean, it's different for everybody. Right. And you don't want you don't want. You can't you can't put anybody in a box the way they give. Oh my gosh. So you've been able to parlay this into something else that you're really passionate about which is getting kids exposure to be able to play at the next level, whatever that next level is and you've developed a new new platform new app called the fly ground. Yes. Tell us a little bit about it. And where we're at in the process. Sure, I actually that's been kind of coming. It's adding another prong to what I wanted to do. Anyway, I always wanted to give back to the game. I was able to give back through through gifts with helping kids. Learn mechanics pitch grips. I do some mental game stuff too. Because just like the other stuff. It's not one size fits all for mental game. Either dorfman's mental ABC's of that. That's a part of my pitching gospel to it every year. Yeah. That's one of my favorite books and just seeing you see Corey kluber out there, and you see mex- sure out. They're both fantastic pitchers. They're both totally different mound presence kluber is clue about exactly insures her looks like he wants to tear your head off. So they're totally different guys. And I've even had my son coming up. He wanted to be like MAC sure, we'd love the way max shurer pictures pitches. But when he did it he got out of control. Right. So you had a slow the game down and be more like kluber. I mean, it's just there's not one size fits all on anything. So teaching all those and then the other. I can do now is because I've been out there developed an extensive network not only with coaches online. So with drive on guys. Great cressey. Great Lance Wheeler is another really good really excellent coach. But a lot of coaches out there. We just hang out on on Twitter, but players don't have access to that. Then MLB players who followed me also didn't, you know, individual high school players college players don't have access to that either. Right. And then schools, so the other thing I have is in scouts as well as colleges at followed me, and probably almost every major college follows me too. Yeah. That's I mean, that's took all that my Rolodex on that. And was able to open it up for everybody said that is the way that I thought about this in I was driving. And I was like there's got a whole weight. Nobody's doing this. And nobody can really be in a position to do what I do. Because either somebody's in a camp somebody they keep their cell. Lessons or whatever. They don't wanna help other people out. I'm neutral. Yeah. I just want good information. So I just want to my whole thing is if I can leave the game better than it was when I got on this earth than I did something I wanna give something back, and this is a it ends up being like way more successful than I thought I thought it was gonna take a while. It's crazy the way it's taken real quick. I follow like round up on Twitter and commented on every day. There's I mean five six seven guys that are either a looking for information how to get better or be trying to figure out how we can make the next step and how I can get myself seen by the right people, and you've been able to combine those two worlds and say, I have the resources to be able to help you get better. And I have the people in the is watching this to find you because truth be told they're only so many is like physical is that can look at physical pitchers on a day-to-day basis. Scouts scouting is a grind. I mean, it really really is. I remember sitting in the minor leagues. Being in the stands charting and the scouts around having conversations with about their travel schedule, and what they're trying to do and how they're trying to see everybody. And with the social media. It really is changing things it's giving everybody a chance to get in front of people. They wouldn't able to before. And amazingly some things that I didn't even think about when I when I so it creates a reverse feeding frenzy, and it helps the players so you get a great player out there and all of a sudden schools interested now, schools and scouts and everybody. They kinda they can play the long game. They can wait. But when they start seeing other people interested in player that they think and help them all of a sudden, they're competitive juices, come out. So instead of the player waiting for people to contact them, and and and the scouts or schools being in control a lot of it. Now is it's giving some control back to players. And then they get to see the things that they love is. They can see how many times are video of you'd be as Twitter functionality shows that so people when they're saying a video that they usually would. Pose getting two hundred views now, getting fifty thousand views. Yeah, they're telling your friends to get on there. And then they get guys like, you know, amazing MLB guys like call him McCue commenting on their stuff, Robert stocks commented lot, Lance mccullers comments a lot. There's a ton of guys giving back CJ Wilson is big on there too. And he will just go in start helping kids left and right. Yeah. It's it's they wind players have to get feedback. Like, we're all baseball junkies. Like at the end of the day. We love the game so watch. So to be able to see these kids and think I don't know this kid from from Adam. But I see his video I see what he's doing. I'm might have one of those keys to be able to add to that keyring. And that's huge. I mean, it's a it's a big important factor and the recruiting scouting part of it was not my story. Like, my story was very different. I was a pretty good high school pitcher, but I went to a small school. I didn't do the travel circuit. So I never had the scouts. They're seeing me. And truthfully when you're not doing those things it's hard to get in. Front of the right people. But you've created up a platform for hopefully kids like me to be able to have some schools compete for your services. Really, exactly. And the other thing that kind of the big thing actually having a kid that went up through to travel ranks is. Yeah. I mean, I was doing fine money. I don't need it. I didn't I I can spend money on showcases all that best travel teams, whatever, and they have the have their places, but to see kids saving up their their money and families saving their money for their kids one shot their dream or parents can never afford that. And don't do it baseball. Shouldn't be a rich kid sport. I don't think is good for the game. Fundamentally, it's bad for viewership. It's bad for it's bad for the game for growing the game. And I think it's important to tear down those barriers both geographically and monetarily give kids a chance, that's huge. And you're doing that in concert with MLB with players. It really is this kind of synergy of the base. Ball elite hopefully being able to give back to the baseball masses. Which I mean baseball is America's pastime it is out there. And you're right. It has become has become kind of an elite thing in the US definitely five hundred dollar bats and four hundred dollar gloves who can afford that. I mean, it's it's people that have money and pay thousand dollars for a showcase a thousand dollars for flight to get to the showcase five thousand dollars for travel team. How many kids are you excluding from that so many and then on the opposite side of that your you had the Dominican Republic, your Venezuela's Puerto Rico's where it is part of just part of the DNA of the people down there to play baseball. And whether you're on a San Lodder the street or doing whatever I mean, hearing Jose altuve and hearing how he came up playing baseball couldn't be more different than the way kids are growing up now playing baseball in the states. So hopefully, everything that I do and hopefully everything that MLB is doing and the players association is doing with youth. Baseball is to make it an easier game to play for for kids all over the country. A more. Attractive and fun game to play for kids. And honestly, something something that's been in the DNA of the United States for a long time that maybe we've lost. Maybe we lost a little bit. And hopefully, we can regain a little bit of that back. I think you do lose some of that as it becomes more and more elitist. It's less and less. I mean, if your ship will go down as well as the players that you get there's a love of the game versus Kizer just going through the grind and stuff. You wanna kill the love the game. In a lot of people can't afford to get those opportunities. So. Yeah, I mean, I totally agree with you. Yeah. And like like we talked about in our social media age. There is there's an attention span. It's hard for baseball to capture that audience because our tension span is getting shorter and shorter. Baseball games are not based up. Baseball game is about three hours long. No matter what we do. No matter. What pays a plate? You know initiatives. We put into practice or clocks put on the field. It's going to be about three hours. No matter what. And what you've been able to do is have these clips. Just clips that are digestible. They're fun. They're informative. And honestly, you've got such a back stock of them now that they're everywhere and they're fun to watch. I think they're fun for kids or fun for me. It's it's a good way to watch baseball without him to sit down and watch nine innings. Exactly. And I and I think the the fun thing. So you look at the flat ground stuff. And now, you're saying, hey, everyday kids can be featured on that stuff with cool things that they do because I can't do that on the on my pitching into account. It's really aimed at LB guys and helping people learn through watching them, but but flat ground is more making a flak around. It's even it's even playing field for everybody. Yeah. People can get seen by by bunch of folks. And learn from each other and their folks that are just going on there that that are looking at it because they like watching pitching, and I didn't think that was going to happen. So I have like one hundred forty people that have volunteered to be a scout. Wow. Volunteered internships to get baseball resume build up what they do all around the country to now. Now, I haven't done anything with yet. 'cause I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to do this. But they'll have a radar gun. They'll video folks. So that people will be uncovered and not fall through the cracks. Yeah. And then seventy facilities throughout the country have volunteered to let kids come in for free. As I do video into and have a radar gun today can do their own. Hey, let me be seen type thing. I didn't think any of that was going to happen. So it's it really is amazing. I'm gonna people wanna give back even at the youth level. Yeah. And then you have MLB guys who just I I know you love to give back, but you don't know it. It's it it's hard to figure out how exotic help kid. You don't want everybody approaching you like ten thousand people. Hey, how reputable for sure? Yeah. It's just not gonna go. Well, for you you need to have a life. Yeah. There's a there's a sense of like a grassroots movement to this where we are going back and saying I want the best kids to play baseball. I want the best athletes to not fall through the cracks. And if your kid who plays five sports, which on the huge proponent of your huge proponent of growing up. If you realize it's going to be it's gonna be hard to get seen in baseball been on where you live or what your means are of putting yourself in front of the right people. I wanna see a kid who can dunk a basketball throw ball. Seventy yards and throw ninety mellower or fastball and put him in front of the right people and let the let the chips fall where they may if he's a baseball player. Great if he's a basketball player, great all these things. I just don't want the best athletes to say well, baseball's not the sport for me. Just because I can't I can't do this to totally agree. And I think it's overlooked that that pitches are athletes come on. But absolutely. I mean, I the one biggest thing is is you don't want pitchers, and this is why pitching can be taught to kids to is. It becomes too mechanical you get people moving like robots. Oh, I gotta move this. I gotta lift my leg here. I gotta do treat pitchers like athletes. Let them play multiple sports. Let them develop a sense of their body. And and learn how to move their lot of moves and basketball that translate to to baseball not only that. But having the idea of gifts and stuff there's nothing better than watching someone get dunked on right? I love it. Yeah. So so now why can't pitchers have that? So we can make people that might choose the more exciting basketball. Dunk it on somebody. Now, they're saying, hey, let me throw a slider. Make this guy fall his but. Yeah. And then I can put my little referee in their county as down. So now, that's really that. Makes it cool. Something you wanna do versus baseball's boring. They make me do this. Also, you see a little personality in their life. See Jerry Jeffers. You see these guys who they're not trying to show anybody up when they strike dude out clever litter too. But there is a sense of like, I did this to you. I'm gonna I'm gonna sit here for a second. If you're gonna sit and stare to home run for a second. It's not gonna bother me. But if I punch you out, and it's nasty almost feel myself a little bit for for a second. You know, what the world understand that this stuff to do? You gotta moonwalk after when you're strike us season. It was I was in Japan. I saw this the one I have I was in Japan and. This is one of those things this is how ubiquitous become that. When I did it. I was walking off the mound and thought at wasn't the strikeout that was that nasty. It was whatever I just did coming off the mouth. I don't know. What you call that? Honestly, don't either McCue we can call it. The I think it was like the electric slide. Exactly threw a curveball punched Yana gate to out who by the way, fantastic player out of Japan with love to say. Israel. But he he ruined us. Why we're over there? But anyway, recur ball punched him out. And did this little I don't know electric added music to it. It was pretty it was sort of embarrassing until I saw it on there. And I was like this could be a thing. Yeah. But every pitcher feel like every pitcher needs a needed dancing. Touchdown touchdown dance for a strikeout dance. I mean, definitely Stroh took it to another level two. There was a battle actually in the end. They were he and Jefferson giving themselves, and basically he was saying, Jerry, you're better. You're you're better at your case dreads better, and they were going back and forth. But they're both naturally doing that. It's none of it's like, I'm showing anybody off. It's just making the game. Exciting for sure. I mean, I I watched just to see I I mean, also Jefferson stare. I was scared. Little rap out of me. If I was in the box intimidating is. I mean, he just stares right free. That's fun. There's wanna see as much personalities you can these players in this game. And that's honestly, it's what we're doing this podcast. So that you can see a different side of players. That isn't just we are robots. We are pitching. It is one hundred. Sixty two games. We get to do things on a daily basis that hopefully does showcase who we are as as people through the baseball. So I I appreciate this. And this is this account pitching on Twitter as one of my favorite things to watch. I wish you the best of what we're gonna do a few more questions. Okay. Because we want to get to know the man behind the pitching Indra mask, just briefly number one. When you open your last streaming app. Whether it's I tunes pin Dora. Spotify record player a track. Whatever it was. What was the last thing you listen to on purpose? I've a big hip hop playlist. Probably listen molest song, I think as I pulled up here was Connie west. I think I'm a God. Yes. Oh, he's a little crazy. But he's he's awesome, buddy. Makes me makes good music. Absolutely true. But yeah, I'm a hip hop head kind of actually going back to my legal career when I people represented are when they started out with Outkast come on when they were very very like fairy, very starting fish those. Yeah. No, they're crazy. I mean, that's one of my favorites guy. They're amazing. I forget Atlanta guy. You've gotta have hip hop run through your blood a little bit it. It absolutely does. And I actually said be old enough. I started back in the Dougie fresh and slick Rick days. So I definitely wa-. I mean, I know the history of hip hop. And and and I'm not one of those guys that has to have old school hip hop. Like, I can listen to Kodak black and say, hey, man, he's he's pretty cooler juice world now. So it's it's I mean as my wife literally in the shower. Will be just laying down sick rhymes, dude. My flow is impetuous said a word, I probably order your the time. Mike Tyson imitation. That's that's wonderful to know. I I'm so glad that you are just like a well listen to yacht rock rent. Frank sinatra. Not not that. I hate Frank Sinatra Charlie more in fly me to the moon in the dugout. I give I just we just released. Our our last episode with Charlie Morton from way back during the season guys. He is he's just a renaissance, man. He does a little bit of every seems like a renaissance. Yeah, he plays guitar sings he does the whole deal. I sing I sing. I don't think very well you saying, but let's draw. Actually, I asked my wife, which my better at drawing singing, and I think she said drawing. She said, yes, it's terrible. Terrible. Your son plays Georgia Tech. He is from. I'm not met him yet. But from everything I've heard great young pitcher. If you could give him a piece of advice. I mean, you do give them advice all the time. But if you could get him or people like him in a piece of advice who were looking hopefully to end up playing pro ball. Would it be the same piece of information? You give to young kids. It would. I think it gets Pacific to folks made a lot of stuff that I put out there stuff. So when. Originally started. I I knew someday might stop coaching, and I didn't want all the information. I learned to die with me. So I wanted like the Dow my coaching career. So I wanted to make sure I got it out there and help the next generation. So what you're seeing is. Sometimes what's going through my head a lot of it comes down to confidence. I think there's a mental game approach that a lot of people. Don't get like people that make it. It may became natural. Maybe they don't think that much some people over thinking and they're out there. And they're wondering what the coaches thinking of them. What players what the fans are thinking of them. And there's just slowed the game down and block it out and be natural and move naturally. And don't let other people FEC you clever actually, just said something exactly like that. He was he tried to conform. And then he's like, you know, what screw it. I mean, I'm not a conforming type of guy as something just go out there and do it and let the chips fall where they may. And I think that attitude works. I think the the the the don't give a fuck attitude. I think has its place on the mound. Yeah. You know? Screw at anybody. Thanks for sure. And if you see someone messing around don't be afraid to buzzer Tauro, but you know, cleanser, always strikes me as somebody who just stays in his lane and old right? Love that. I mean, I love the personality race bullshit impr- should should embrace that type thing because they're they're definitely be more fans. I mean, how would you? It's just fantastic. It's hard to watch guys. Like that guy that you're talking about guy. Like clever. Stroman these big personalities and show their personalities out there. It's it's hard to watch the monopoly like, and I'm a fan of I'm a fan of you like whether you're a fan of the Indians or the or the Blue Jays or whatever you can be a fan of players, and this has been happening in the NBA and the NFL for years peop-, the the idea of being a fan of a team can be separate from being a fan of a player, you know, your LeBron fan, no matter where he is you might not be in LA fan, but you're LeBron fan or your your fan of polish. And then when it comes down to people asked me what team I generally, we're Lanta route for land, obviously. But as far as a team, I don't really I root for pitchers, and I always root for pitchers. There's not a pitcher. I don't root for when they're when they're out there, and I want I wanna see the coolest stuff they got. I want them to beat themselves, and it's fun to watch. I mean, it's fun to watch different personalities that that that make it for the button up guys guys that are just doing moon dances out there. Strutting jumping up and down people like to the baseball is. All about home runs at the moon dances, moon, walks. I I don't know what I just said. I think that's like a there. One of them is the one variation as the walk. Yeah. Exactly. But baseball is much more than just homers and people will Homer suck. Yep. Unless a pitcher hit some they sucked there is. I think you're you're able to showcase a different side of the game and be able to tell people like no baseball is not just more fun. When there's more homers more offense like pitcher pitches or defenders at their core. We are defenders, but the things were able to do as a defender is still extremely entertaining. And can be fun to watch. Oh, there's some sick plays that that folks make out there too that I try to highlight as well. So the lettuce is amount there. But yeah, that's absolutely. That's absolutely part of part of the game. And I think it's underrated part again. It's fun to watch. I think our games entertaining right now as it's ever been totally would agree with that. I think that's one. I think Mike came along at the right time the Sasha because it's an entertaining. It's ever been and knowing the history of the game. If you tell me that there are people that through like this back, then I would be made. As I mean, I see some like I'll I'll go back and look at highlight. Bob gibson. Yeah. And his slaughter like, yeah. That's that would play today. Essel legit. Yeah. Tom Seaver had some stuff that. I don't think people understood how good he was Nolan Ryan as his changeup. I think people didn't know how much change up then his changeup was sick too. But it was much more limited. And I think now you're seeing guys throughout the throughout this the squad that that just have filthy stuff. Every guy in every bullpen through. I feel like throws ninety five. That's a craze every pretty much every team. You have has one guy throws you can throw hundred miles now. So on flat ground today guy. Just just tweeted to me lefty ninety nine miles an hour. He's not with an organization. That's crazy. Right. It's crazy. It would never have happened except it did. And then the one before that was a ninety eight guy literally this after this morning, two two guys. One guy broke the flat ground record ninety seven point nine next guy. Ninety nine on the gun at lips. Them. And I'm like what the heck is going on where these guys can't find jobs and just shows you how sick things out there. And how competitive they are. Obviously velocity isn't the whole thing. I mean, it gets you looks. But in the end, you also have to be able to pitch it makes it makes the decision times cut down for batter. But they're so mean, there's so many ways to get it done. You can get it done like Greg Maddox or Zakharanka who's got for sure fantastic stuff as a as a star. Who I also love watching and doesn't light up the radar gone. So, but if you can throw that hard, and then you can learn how to pitch to along the way exactly turn into a different animal. That's right. So yeah, these are these are incredibly fun times. I think to be a baseball fan. And I'm hoping that this I'm wishing to walk. I hope this continues to be as entertaining for us as it is interesting for you and anything anyway, we can help as a throw Nassar pitches. Keep throwing nasty I'm working on it. I'm working on that slider. I was working on yesterday. It was not very good. But it's it's coming along. Bullpen right now. We're we're gonna take a break here. We're gonna throw bullpen and we'll come back in a little bit of ninja stuff and make make that slaughter. Just fantast. Rob. Thank you for your time. And pleasure. Yeah. Pitching engine when you're out there. And you see something amazing shout out. Rob Freeman Twitter pitching ninja. You can find me you'll find him. Thanks. Nothing.

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The Fall of Troy

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

1:00:05 hr | 2 years ago

The Fall of Troy

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST is the baseball tonight podcast for Friday July twenty six two thousand nineteen. I'm buster only Troy Farkas producing back in Bristol and we have only five more days to the trade deadline alright today the news and knows troy till Lewinsky announced his retirement. This is someone who had two hundred twenty five homers over thirteen seasons a five-time all star three times in the top ten in the National League M._V._p.. Voting now long after two Lewinsky's out his announcement University of Texas announced that he'll be joining their coaching staff as an assistant Paul indicating centers great note about Troy Lewinsky per one hundred sixty two games during his career his wins above replacement five point five. That's higher than Barry Larkin at five point two CAL ripken at five point two Allen Trammell at Five Point No pee wee reese at five point zero Derek jeter at four point three that tells you how good Troy Lewinsky was was before his career was drilled injury. We'll hear more about two Lewinsky later in the podcast. The raising outset left-hander Blake Snell is GonNa have arthroscopic surgery and his pitching elbow. He'll be out about six weeks and this is absolutely devastating stating for the raises. They try to make it to the playoffs. Joey Gallo has a fractured hamate bone in his right hand. He's going to be out probably about a month. The twins and the white sox played in on yesterday's podcast Roxy Bernstein talked with Nelson Elson Cruise L.. Maybe Rocky Bernstein was good luck for Nelson Cruz who had himself a night comes a swinging a blast left field deep that is way out of here Nelson Cruz homers again that one clear the grandstand in left field yielded foul on the concourse Nelson over now in four straight games and that was a tape measure blast a left one nothing twins resp- itchy launches this one high in deep to Center Field Adam Angle at the wall to homer night for Nelson troves to out to run line drive homer to center field back to back homers for Nelson his first to invest tonight and it's Wednesday three one lead high near Right-center field angles is GonNa look up that one is Nelson Cruz with three overs tonight. Stay Hot Nellie first time in his career that Nelson Cruz it had a three homer gain gene Dan gladden and the treasure island baseball network with those calls right after the Game Nelson Cruz spoke with Fox sports north about his great three homer night three home runs on three different types of pitches from a guy like Julia who does not give up very many home runs always scouting report. What was the game plan for you that allowed you have such an edge on him tonight? Just lucky just reacting peaches. You know like you say he's real patriot and any peaches a heated. I mean they can get you in trouble with the heater. This'll be able to speaking of offense. Speaking of home runs Red Sox Yankees at Fenway Park on Thursday night and Zander Bogart's came to the plate the bottom of the first inning against Masahiro Tanaka two runners on base the three one bogart's hit high in the air to laugh feel way back gone over everything over the monster seats did straight away left field a three-run homer by BOGART's and the red sox leave three to nothing on Zander's twenty-second of the year the Great Sean Mcdonough W. E. Ninety three point seven F._M.. And that rally against Tanaka would go on and on and on mookie Betts coming up to the plate for the second time in the inning Dan the pitch to Mookie Lon. I passed the second basement. Torres was on the left side of the infield vic so hard it goes on the ground around all the way to the wall to the left of the three seventy nine marker two more runs around on a double by Mookie Betts his second of the ending so let's cut to the chases what the rest of the night sounded like for the Yankees pitching yep you'll seem soccer Benny Hill because there were lots of runs and there were lots of hits and there's a lot of offense red sox winning this game nineteen three overall the Yankee starters of allowed forty runs over there last five games in the last six games that rotation has it collectively are a fifteen point five nine in addition to the nineteen runs the red sox also recorded fourteen extra-base hits both of which are there most ever in a game against the Yankees after the Game arab-owned the Yankees manager talked about what went wrong Masahiro Tanaka a lot of mistakes in the art of the plate. You know didn't really have a split <hes> in his in his even as fastball slider combination. It's been so good for him wasn't wasn't as Chris and Sharp <hes> after the first inning settled in look like he had a chance to to maybe get a going a little bit and get through the Middle Innings <hes> but we'll just have to have the look and see what was going on there. The fourth inning obviously started to unravel fairly quickly had Stephen Tarpley up early in that inning but stuck with Tanaka said just a matter of trying to get more out of them knowing you're limited in the bullpen yeah absolutely I mean we're just this time through obviously haven't gotten <hes> you know length out of the starters and just being up against it like we are down there just trying to trying to work through as best we can right now. Twelve runs owns allowed by Tanaka in three and a third innings. It was ugly and you have to believe this is going to increase the urgency for the Yankees talent at help before the trade deadline. We talking about that with car ravage coming up Indians took air business against the royals. They went five four with help from Jose Ramirez Flynn's ready the left he S- pitch and it's hit a ton deep left field back goes Gordon still going back near the wall. Jose Ramirez has hit his eleventh and the Indians take a four to three lead here in the fourteenth boy. Would that be a big boost for the Indians of Jose Ramirez can get hot speaking of getting hot. Paul Goldschmidt is on a roll right now the cardinals win over the pirates six to three with with help from Goldschmidt. The one delivery to Goldschmidt is hit hard into center field back goes Marseille to the track to the wall. It's Gone Paul. Goldschmidt has homered in every game this series and it's now flee to one cardinals. The mets in the padres Todd Frazier got a big hit for New York to one now the pitch frazier lines one the left center here comes Renfro he dives. He can't get it rolls underneath Nathan goes to the wall at the three seventy. Mark Alonzo is scored canola around third. He's GonNa come home score standing without a really throw and on its second probably scored at double at two runs batted in his todd frazier however they score it hop aboard Mitch Three in the padres. Nothing and the padres would never recover that call from how Heroes W._C._B._S. mets went four. Nothing behind Jacob degrom the rockies in the nationals a tough game for the nationals they they were down three or early and they came back they were down five three and they took the lead Matt Adam seemingly building a sturdy lead in the bottom of the seventh. Here's a long drive to write back on it. Black men to the warning track to the wall aw with a towering solo homer awful lefty that's his sixteen to the year nationals get the insurance run lead seventy-five that from the nationals radio network but you know the story about the nationals this year. They got a lot of great parts of this team but their bullpen is an issue they gave up a run in the eighth and then in the ninth inning Fernanda Rodney tried to close it out in this happened pitched Murphy Bouncing being ball towards third rundown goes to second for one on the first time and the run scores. The rockies have taken the lead. I would win eight seven that call from from eight fifty K._O._A.. The day the game of the day no doubt about it out in Anaheim more than six hours orioles and angels in the atop the ninth inning the oriels took the lead again eighty. I go back and show you that got exactly what he was Gary Thorny Jim Palmer on mass but you know what happened. Bottom of the ninth inning angels tied the game and that is out to it and they would play on and on and on that call from the angels television broadcasts the Orioles sales would score three runs at the top of the fifteenth but then the angels tied the score with three runs in the bottom of the fifteen they went onto the sixteenth inning and this happened three the top of the fifteenth of angels get three in the bottom of the pitch swing in a hot fly ball rightfielder deep Calhoun is back on it and that it carries out of here Jonathan V._R.. With A to run home run and the Orioles had the lead back at ten eight wow Jim Hunter working hard voice getting scratchy after six hours at the microphone on one Oh five point seven the fan in the bottom of the sixteenth inning the Orioles called on Stevie Wilkerson to get the stave and you know what this is a position position players center fielder and a lot of times when you see position players coming in pitch they'll kind of ratchet up there fastballs at try to slow show off a nasty breaking bowl Stevie Wilkerson slowed down he was throwing as low as fifty de miles per hour and this is what happened to deliver on the way Pelos waiting on it. That's shallow center field at Santan. Darren Persson gets the same and the Orioles have awarding ten eight more game in Sixteen Innings Stevie Wilkerson Center fielder gets the first save since the save role was put into effect in nineteen sixty nine amazing stuff. Let's get to it. It's the Raby tray with Carl ravage ravage host baseball tonight of course play by play man on a lot of our broadcasts and the Raby train right now is in for repairs Ravi. What's going on slave repairs were ten day I l but with all sorts of great optimism for returning for a big September October push little league in August <hes> had a partial knee replacement on Monday and have been to physical therapy a couple of times already and it's interesting after ten years buster after A._C._l.? Surgery ten years ago actually lift a leg up straight as opposed to putting it from from the outside in of retraining my entire left leg and it's it's been interesting then. It's nice to look down and see a leg. That's actually straight now and you mentioned to me before we got started that you will be at the trade deadline show on Wednesday next week which I think think going to run from two to four thirty in it. <hes> you know you're a Gamer your grinding through thank you. That's part of the obligation and you want to be part of. It and let's just hope that things are a little more active than they've been up to this point. It's been pretty cool though watching you know when you were removed removed from it on a day-to-day basis you got a chance to observe a little bit more believe it or not and it's <hes> it's been kind of neat to see what the nationals have done and how the National League East has changed over the last couple of weeks so I you know I hope it's going to be interesting to so there are a lot more teams that are I think in it and a lot more interesting teams. That aren't necessarily you know in first place right now that has the legitimate chance and I'm sure we'll talk about the orioles last night but boy that Yankee Red Sox that Yankee twin series combined you thank you got some work to do when it comes to starting pitching if they want to compete with the Astros yeah no doubt about it and I've definitely have some trade stuff that I wanna get to with Tampa Bay rays with the mets. <hes> you know what we're hearing from teams about their intention to move Noah syndergaard and the Yankees were there blow last night. I do want to start with that Oriole game because that was that was so fascinating as we talked about in the open the Orioles score three runs in the top of the fifteenth in a game that lasted over six hours and then the angels tie the game of the bottom of the fifteenth and then the Orioles retake the lead in the top of the sixteenth and then Stevie Wilkerson becomes the first position player ever to get a save and Carl. I loved his strategy like every every position players ever pinch basically goes in there looking to show off the fastball they had in highschool and look into to do damage with that great breaking ball. They've been thrown at teammates on the side. Stevie Wilkerson slows it down. It's like he's been watching Homerun Derby that I've been part of when you see all the hitters talk about how they liked the pitcher to throw the ball firm he slowing it down to fifty fifty six miles per hour and you've got great Major League Hitters Coal Calhoun Future Hall of Famer Albert Pools uncomfortable not knowing what to do with pitches that slow any against to save. I can't drive fifty five and I can't hit fifty fifty five. It's got a mess a lot of people up they. They don't know what fifty five looks like as a hitter. Certainly somebody like Albert tool so yeah we've seen it before. It's a really cool thing to watch. These are the things that you know you in Tim coaching believe or integral to the future of baseball we love having sixteen inning games and all the things that come a bit and you have the headline that no one's <hes> since the stat became a stat in nineteen sixty nine done something like this but <hes>. Yeah sure for those two teams and incredible thing this as my man Bend McDonald's tweeted out grab a cup of coffee. You're on the east coast. This is oil team on the east coast. It's out west imagine how they're feeling at that hour of the morning <hes> trying not a win this game and sure fifty five is great next time I think in the end you end up seven somebody feel underhand. Try to get these jobs but it was it's great to read about. I wasn't one of those that decided in the thirteenth I need to say up and watch out this ant read about in the morning. No and I do think look that game we had in Fenway Park two weeks ago with the dodgers and the red sox requiring five hours and forty minutes to tweet to play twelve innings that game last night that is only going to I I think enhanced discussions push long discussions that something needs to change with Super Long Games because teams are worried about their pitchers being hurt but we'll table that for another day. Let's talk about troy to Lewinsky who announced his retirement fireman yesterday. Here's our friend Aaron Boone talking about too low. What I'll remember is obviously a great player and and a guy that played shortstop a great shortstop the plate in such an unique Gwei and with a flare and you know the way he moved played on the run through from different angles you know watching him this spring even so place that I the way I put his he he looked at home out there playing shortstop and I know he loves this game? We certainly wish them well. He's he had an impact. I believe on on this organization in this team this year with the way he was in spring and Kinda him helping been set the tone for our culture and a lot of ways and I know the guys in their loved him and you know hopefully at some point this season will allow we could see him again but we certainly wish him well and and even though injuries cut him short a little bit it was a great career and Ravi. I think also anytime thing people baseball fans think about Troy Lewinsky in the future. They're always going to wonder what could have been because he just so ravaged by injuries through his career. No doubt about it remember him in Long Beach State back in two thousand five and he wasn't wasn't in the Minor Leagues Very Long. I think it was like a next year. He's in the major leagues performing <hes> I I think I think because that people forget ah you know we talked a lot about hall of fame guys <hes> Sandy Colfax of course <hes> Pedro Martinez and you always afraid to get in the idea of how long did they do it. Were they at the peak for how long were the best player in the game and if they were for how long were they for awhile <hes> he was at the top of the shortstop class and I think because of the injuries you you tend to forget it and then it became a lot about hyperbaric chambers and try to stay in shape but that was sort of the narrative around Troy Lewinsky but boy because of where he played and the offensive numbers that came with it. I think a lot of things are used against two Lewinsky's opposed to prop him up where his war is one of the greats <hes> for a guy to play the length of time that he played for the period where he was so great. I think it's over look I think <hes> you know if somebody were asked me given the great era of shortstops that we all got a chance to joy during the nineties and <music> early two thousand and even today you know where where would he rank and would some people forget about troy to Lewinsky and my guess is <hes> if prodded they'd probably remember him but when you think about the Larkin's <hes> the a garage viviscal's the Garciaparra is an all those different guys that were that were constantly mentioned in custody battling Jeeter for the American League shortstop position that the National League you remember the hall a Fan Larkin. I think you'd be hard pressed in some cases to remember too low and that's that's not right he he is he is on that same line as those guys especially when he was playing at its peak. We got news yesterday. A the blake snail of the raise the race and of course the two thousand eighteen American League Cy Young Award winner needs to have a lose body removed from his pitching elbow. He's going to be out at least six weeks and let's face it. If the raise fall out of the playoff racy probably not gonNA pitch again this year if they are in the race and mid-september then yeah and everything goes well with his rehab. We could see him again but boy. It just feels like another body blow for this race team which let's face it. There's not a lot of margin for error there when they're competing against the big dogs like the Yankees the red SOx have a lot deeper pockets Carl yeah the body blow for the raise becomes greater because they don't have the financial wherewithal the depth the ability to make a deal for for somebody likes now you know in watching the Yankees the last couple of weeks here you gotta realize like they're doing this without Luis Severino think about teams that could lose their Ace and maintain the pace that they're on the raise or one of those teams <hes> they can't do that. The twins would be really hard pressed to do something like that. The braves have dealt with some injuries but but take away one of their best pitchers hard to believe leave over the course of a month and a half two months where you've got a win as many games as you possibly can to compete with other teams and your division and Wildcard. It absolutely feels like <hes> like it's unfair to a team seem like the race but that's the that's the that's the world the rays have lived in forever. They don't enjoy the financial flexibility. They don't have the depth and again. You know you'd take Chris sale off the red sox. I would be honest you Bueller Hulu Ross the dodgers. They're not going to be as good as they are right. Now you take no off the Phillies <hes> the Yankees have done it without Steph Reno. The raise can't do it without Blake Snell especially the way that other teams that are competing with them are playing right now. They can't do it. Yeah remember the raise and how great they look back in April with that was with Blake Snell in tyler glass now and tally glass no being great and glass nails out with an injury and now Blake Snell is out and you know two or three weeks ago. I had a high-ranking executive with another team say the raise. They're going to do something aggressive like they're going to do something big. They were in the conversations on Craig Kimbrel. They clearly we're looking to upgrade this team and now it would be hard to justify it'd be hard to justify going out and making a big expenditure using a lot of resources with the issues that they have with their rotation. It's really too bad and you hope that they can find a way to grind through and make the postseason but that that really hurts them to lose Blake's. Now you mentioned the Yankees. Let's get to it they. They get absolutely hammered again last night. The last six starts their rotation has a collective area fifteen point five nine and I think a week ago the talk within the Yankees Organization. Was You know what hopefully hopefully we if these asking prices and guys like Marcus Stroman and Trevor Bauer and Robbie Ray are too high we can hope that Severino comes back or hope <hes> this Guy Garcia gets called up minor leagues we can plug and Phil along the lines of you're just referencing and now after what we've seen again from James Paxton after Tanaka gets absolutely beat up I mean to me not only looking at rolling out the last third of the regular season but you have to look at the Astros in what you might face in October and matched up against the Burland Garrett Cole what you might see from the Oakland athletics if you phase them in the playoffs what you might see in the Cleveland Indians if they're the team you have to pay the extra price to go get one of these guys because because this team is that good and it's worth that kind of investment. What do you think I thank watching these teams? The twins <hes> the Yankees and seeing how the nationals are currently playing knowing how the dodgers are playing watching Orlando and coal set strikeout record after Spread Cup record every time they seem to step on them out and <hes> I think there's a great separation <hes> and if Domingo her mom pitches greats for Chris sale all of a sudden returns to Chris Sale Great Form <hes> then those teams are more legitimized than even they are now with all their offensive numbers that they're putting up home runs runs scored and bill the twins little smashing records season all those those things in the postseason when you're looking at the likes of assures or Anna Strasberg <hes> go away when you're looking at coal and you're looking at Burland or and even Miley go away when you're looking at review and Bueller incur shop they go no way and clearly teams like the Yankees <hes> teams like the twins in their bullpen. The Indians are legitimate because of the starting pitchers they have it would be it would be really frustrating if they as an Indian fan word where to Trade Trevor Bauer you have a chess you know the goal is to get into the tournament and if you get into the tournament then you start to look at teams like dodgers and teams like Astros and realized there better because of the guys they can start the game with their better better than the Yankees right now. They're better than the red sox right now. They're better than every team in the American League <hes> right now the Astros are better. The dodgers are better but Washington national's can compete the braves have legitimate chance to compete the phillies on their best day because of their pitchers can compete but you've gotta have starting pitching and maybe because they've dealt with the great offenses that the twins and the red socks out but as great as that Yankee lineup is they're not as good with the starting pitching pitching the way it is currently and they've done this without their race. You built the team with Luis. Severino was your race that they would legitimately be considered the same as as Houston and L._A.. And everyone else but I think you look at them right now and they're not that I don't know how you consider them that without the guys to compete against the frontline start as these other teams have the up over the next five days a big questions going to be in some of these the asking prices for guys like Stroman is who's GonNa Blink first last year for example. The Yankees stared down the Blue Jays eventually. It was the Blue Jays you blink. I in this case I I think the Yankees should blink because this team is good enough to justify that and let's look at the best case scenario. Let's say you trade for a Robbie Ray or you trade for Stroman and let's say Severino comes back all of a sudden severino being right a Robbie Bobby Rahal Marcus stroman. Maybe Paxton going you got Tanaka. You know is the number three number four but the front end of the rotation right now is a big concern for the Yankees. I I'd say this. There's no chance that they get Noah syndergaard like I know that they've had conversations stations with the mets about Noah syndergaard and I talked to evaluators with other teams yesterday who tell me that the tenor and the tone of the of the mets now is they talk about Syndergaard is now no longer hey you can we'll listen and but you have to overwhelm with an offer they say that their absolute perception of the mets now is they're going to move Noah syndergaard and we'll get into a moment why they would do that but the Yankees are not going to be that team that gets in because has you know Carl. Mets ownership is not good not going to create a situation where you might see Noah syndergaard dog pile with other Yankees in the Bronx in October. What do you think no I it would it would it would depend to me on what I could get back? The idea that Syndergaard is dog piling with C._C._C. Tabatha and the Bronx <hes> would wouldn't bother me as much as <hes> it would have. We got nothing back. I if I you know I I've been really bullish on the mets for a a long time. I thought they were going to be legitimate contender. I didn't love the deal that they made giving up their young players to get Canola Diaz and E._S. proving to be disappointment but I always thought similar this conversation when you have no starters and degrom showed it again yesterday on a day the degrom either didn't feel great or didn't have as best off. It was unbelievable that you're going to be legitimate team and that division. It's proven not to be the case. I care less about syndergaard dog piling just because he played for the mets because if I'm if I'm real honest with myself you know he he hasn't been part of a group that has really threatened in my opinion to be consistently great so okay. I don't give them away but I'm getting two or three guys back then in two or three years I'll be done piling and Syndergaard of the Yankees may not be that that bothers me less than than the concept of trading him to the Yankees versus some other team. If I mean proving myself dramatically <hes> so yeah I I guess they wouldn't do that. I wouldn't particularly care about that. If I were one of the group I I don't. I don't get caught up and where he's going. If I'm making myself better more power to the team that just traded form. They thought he was more valuable than I did so be. It worked out for them. <hes> that's great but I I think the other thing buster at this time of year you know this <hes> how good is Marcus Stroman. How good is Robbie Ray? Are they good enough to compete against the Burland or coal. Do we overvalue somebody like that. This is why I you know for awhile when the giants weren't great Madison Bumgarner has all sorts of credibility with even in a year in which he hasn't been great there is at least this feeling come October. There is another level he's performed at at that level. We'll we'll stroman and ray and these other guys we're talking about. <hes> haven't been nearly as consistently good as Bumgarner so sure you need to bolster. You're starting staff. But what are your both during it with. What are you both during it with <hes> is is there anyone out there? That would be available <hes> that you could throw in a game too if if you're if you're injured domingo her mind if you're into Chris Sale who's the guy that's GonNa Pitch in Game Two mortar Rodriguez enough in Boston Austin <hes> do we over doing end up overvaluing just the arm because it's healthy and a sad a decent year and remove the perspective of will who's going to be pitching against in what environment in what game <hes> and in what series Gosh I think sometimes we lose sight of that because we've got to make a move and we're I'm making the case Yeah you've gotTa make a move yeah and just doubling back on what you're saying about <hes> you wouldn't be bothered by Syndergaard having success. Obsessed with the Yankees if you're in the mets shoes you're thinking is right in line with just about every team in baseball. Now teams have gotten much more progressive about their attitudes the same as yours their belief being that hey if it makes us better. I'm not gonNA worry about what the guy does with the other team but we saw situation two years ago where Sandy Alderson the former mets general manager range the trade with Brian Cashman the Yankees G._M.. For Jay Bruce who's not a star like Noah syndergaard is considered to be a star a centerpiece and mets ownership pull the rug out from underneath it because they didn't want Jay Bruce October in Yankee Stadium and that's what you're dealing with and I disagree. I'm totally with you there. The reason why I think they're two reasons why the mets are considering moving not only noah it was syndergaard but also Edwin they know that syndergaard for them it just hasn't he hasn't realizes potential and they know that other teams still value him really highly and they would love the opportunity to try to get syndergaard syndergaard translate for them. Whether it's the San Diego padres or the Houston Astros and the second thing is look the mets are a big market team but they don't have a big budget and when you look at the structure of their payroll and where they are syndergaard making making six million this year he's in line for big raise and windy as making close to minimum wage this year. He's GonNa make seven million dollars plus next year when he goes into arbitration so not only could the mets get really good prospects if they were to trade a syndergaard to the padres are traded D. as to the dodgers but within their realm and I don't agree with where their budget is but within their budget they would get ahead of the payroll management. I think in the off season in addition to adding young players what do you think no. I think I think you're absolutely right about that and I think both having lived up to the expectations and I agree a hundred percent of the case syndergaard that if you are <hes> the Houston Astros and you've been able to turn guys around you then believe if we can improve on syndergaard every single physical tool <hes> to be a phenomenal pitcher is there. He's one of those guys that you absolutely believe if we get them into our system and we have the right pitching coach <hes> whether it's a picture whisper or at somebody who's GonNa proven track record we can make Noah syndergaard the face of this franchise and be the ace of staff so hundred percent agree with you on that <hes> and also <hes> <hes> and probably a Non New York met fan from from birth who gets frustrated by the idea that they are playing in that city and don't have the payroll that is that is even in the same <hes> <hes> Ballpark as the team like the Yankees. <hes> you know the angels to some degree if has shown that they're willing to spend the money <hes> maybe not to the levels of the dodgers are but you don't hear this generally don't hear the same argument against the angels when it comes to the other team in that city. Is You with the mets and the Yankees and yeah it's a it's a frustrating dynamic and it'd be really interesting to see what <hes> brody does here over the next couple of months in the off season two two again. Try to reestablish reestablish himself with somebody that can do this and do it well because this this year did not did not turn out well the move and backfired yeah and I gotTa Tell You we've talked about how the dodgers are looking for very high Diane Elite Relief to augment the seventh and eighth inning set up in Edwin would be a tremendous by for them. You know mets fans of worried about well if we trade the as now because he hasn't pitched well he'd be heavily discounted. I don't think that's the case because everyone everyone sees the stuff is average fastball velocity still at ninety seven point three miles per hour as it has been the last three years. You know the teams are lining up to say we'll fix them. We got him with the guy who just six months ago was considered to be the best closer in baseball so I do think think the mets would get something good from the dodgers in order to to make that trade last one four year Carl the giants Begin three-game series tonight against the San Diego padres. Basically I think at this point it's just about a done deal that they're going to hang on a Madison Bumgarner the only way that I think that they would actually consider trading bumgarner at this point would be if they got swept by the padres this weekend and then lost the phillies on Tuesday night but besides that and I talked to someone who's in the know yesterday and I said where where would you assess the chances of a deal and goes about ten percent because the feeling is with as well as they're playing with legacy pitcher legacy manager and Bruce Bochy. What are you like about that well? I you know to me as much as it is about Bumgarner th this I think and again you can get caught up in the history onyx and the legacy but yeah I think I think in some ways without hammering yourself in the short term or or even long-term you always to the free world series titles you owe it to Bruce Bocce. We've you know we often are critical of front offices. When eighteen plays itself into a position to be competitive they've been to get into <hes> the postseason and you have Madison Bumgarner as your guy? You probably have a greater sense of of realistic accomplishment coming coming to you then you then you would if you hadn't been there recently recently and he hadn't done it and I don't think that by not trading bumgarner that they hamstring themselves for for the next five to ten years. I think if you're going to be critical front offices that don't do anything when the team it does everything they can on the field. You've gotta be critical of them when they do make moves like trading someone like that even if <hes> in the privacy of their luxury suite they look around and say look. We're not the dodgers we gotta be realistic about it. <hes> we got to trade bumgarner. I still think that there's an obligation to the players and the fan base to try when you have a chance to make that happen which is your point about. <hes> the Yankees having been so long and not having one nine you you've got to you've got to look around and make the move. The players have put themselves without the Transition Severino in this position. What can we do to increase our chances? I think the giants are in that Ah same position and I'm I guess it's just a weird world. We live in when you were going to make a decision based on three games in a season that last one sixty two that those those don't really equate in my world like wait a minute so they lose to three now. We're going to trade him. I if you one two or three you weren't how is that. How do you square yourself with that? I don't I don't particularly understand that but that is the world we live in. I don't train them. You know I keep them and I look I go out and try to make a trade. I try to improve my my team. I think so as guy I go. I'd go get Vasquez from the pirates so I'm looking for bullpen. Help <hes> more than Diaz or anyone else that guy is is the guy I circle hundred different ways and I know the pirates are willing you know they're. They're a willing dance partner. Yeah and I'm sure that that's one of the guys at dodgers are talking about <hes> yeah the giants from what I understand if they I mean assuming that they don't trade bumgarner they're gone the other direction probably wind up adding and I don't think they're gonNA be aggressive. Big Ads before deadline they're going to be they're going to be improving so I hope you're feels better. Carl and I look forward to seeing on Wednesday. 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Subject to credit approval rate includes zero point five percent auto pay discount terms and conditions supply and offers are subject to change without notice visit livestream dot com such for more information does ally with Sunday Night Baseball's Jessica Mendoza Uh Sunday baseball this week will originate from Fenway Park where we have Yankees in the red sox the Yankees looking to put the Red Sox away once and for all and basically cement the American League as Jess how you doing today oh wonderful summertime one best time of year trade deadline right around the corner dog days of August coming up. You're kind of weather. That's for sure before we look ahead to the red sox the Yankees this weekend I want to look back. We just saw the nationals and the braves and it's funny because right now the braves with a sturdy lead in the national yeast and they're looking like the team. That's going to win that division but I I found myself unbelievably impressed rest and had a good impression of the Washington nationals have been playing great of late after their win on Wednesday that meant they want thirty six out of fifty one since May twenty four. That's one hundred fourteen wind pace over the course of about a third boarded the season and you feel like that if Mike Rizzo the general manager adds a couple relievers before the trade deadline and I think he absolutely will and maybe Alice column of the White Sox should be good fit there. Maybe Jake Diekmann is a left-hander data. Their bullpen that to me is a really dangerous team. Perhaps the most dangerous team to the Los Angeles dodgers standing as the best team in the National League. What do you think that was? That was my answer to your poll question that you had last sleek. was you know who's going to give the dodgers you know the biggest competition you know it's of course we're talking October and you know you talk about the teams that are hot now because you can't really understand who these teams are even GonNa be after a week from now when there's going be so many trades so many things will will change but the nationals even in their loss and we had them on Sunday. They lost the brave but I think seeing them in person after not have seen them for over a month <hes> everyone that's healthy their lineup. I mean really really just looking at the top three especially trae Turner outta meter sorry top portray Turner Atom Eating Anthony Ren don't and then one Soto and then you got Victor Robe listen the aide whole which I feel like he's been coming on so hot and it's just kind of that sneaky threat threat. It's at the bottom of their lineup and this is a team that on paper of course you starting pitching I mean how many years have we talked about. You know how good this team is the potential you know but I really believe buster. This is the team that will win a postseason series and it's not I just don't give the dodgers a threat but the fact that this is a team you just don't WanNa face in the postseason and and I I just feel like the hype has finally caught up so what they really are having fun crowder Paro you and I talked to him and talked about you know how much he's he's brought just life to this team not so much pressure. They've always had talent but buster. We've been around them in the past where they're just so tight because they know how good they are and when they don't perform they freak out this national team is is playing and they were reminded me. A little bit was happening across the way with the brave like just how loose in fun you know the Ozzy Albee's and Ronald Junior. I feel like Harada par has brought that because its nationals team and to me that's been the missing piece because we've been talking talking about how talented they are for years and I just felt like even though they lost they still seem like a team that it was I it better team but also just the team is enjoying themselves. It can go out and compete with anybody no doubt about it and now Max Scherzer back in the rotation. They're in a better spot. You talked about a missing piece. I don't think there's any doubt when the the first person who would say the missing piece for the Red Sox. This year is Chris. Sale would be Chris sale he would. He's been so critical of himself in the role that he's played in the red sox not really playing up to expectations this year but there are signs that he could be better down the stretch I mean historically. He's really struggled in August August and September but he's sliders still really effective you see spots in when he pitches where his stuff's really good when we last saw Al score the they had Chris Sale just pitch against the dodgers the day before and Alex City one home that night any watch video of the game and he watched video and the next morning you know what the stuff there and they're just waiting for him to put it all together. Absolutely I mean that's the thing that I saw I went to that game that Saturday night before Sunday game and I was like I mean Dang and amy could just feel for him because he he's an intense player and you know you love that about the players that you see I feel like he also can turn that intensity negative quickly and in that I think it was the first inning he had struck and if he struck out sue batters stuff was amazing. could he gets a swimming bunt hit the Chris Sale Kinda just took too long to get rid of like took too much time basically cody bellinger <hes> beating it out and you could just see help his off off. Chris sale was at a at himself and of course the coach after the game with how you know he he'd beats himself up but the thing is I feel like in game he can turn even though the stuff is still there. It's like he just you can see it in his demeanor the way he argues with umpires early on and again you love it about him but I also feel like this is a guy little get double digits strikeouts on any given night but until like he can actually go out there and I feel like not control some of his emotion because I think an impossible thing for Chris sales but just keep the negatively at bay like honestly just have this like ability that you've seen with him where it's that pace and just that overall like I'm GonNa take this ball and I'm gonNA shove it up. You know where every single time and that Chris sale is there but I feel like it turns negative too quickly now and what I hope to see Sunday even though it's against the Yankees and this is a team that he can find out dominate but I just feel like it's going to all be predicted on how he does early on if he's getting the calls that he wants the. Calls it feels like especially in the righties to play off of that slider buster. You're talking about if he gets that fastball called off the plate just off the play into those righties I feel he's going to have an awesome night and they're going to win but it all depends on how the game goes for him early on with convenor now by the time we get to Sunday night. This always happens the context in a four game series can change so dramatically and one of the possibilities is if the red sox were to lose the first two games doubleheader lose bulk games at double header on Friday and then lose on Saturday they could potentially be in that spot that Alice Chorus spoke about when he talked to reporters on Monday at the beginning of the week he goes look we know this time of year that front offices do their thing and if they assess that we don't have a very good chance of winning and making the playoffs then they may go and move into different direction than maybe we anticipate and I think that one possibility that the red nightside could be sellers would be if they were to lose those games on Friday and then lose on Saturday and lose on Sunday and I wrote a piece about this this week on E._S._p._N.. Dot Com about what a red sox say would look like and there's some obvious pieces that you might move Rick Portillo Mitch Moreland because the free agents in the fall but one of the guys who wrote about J._D.. Martinez was an opt out and his contract at the end of this year he could walk away from the last three years the deal which pay him about sixty six million dollars and you know what what if I'm sitting at J._D.. Shoes considering how good he was last year and even this year while he hasn't been as good you would think based on the fact that last Winter Andrew mccutchen about the same age got three years in fifty million dollars to winters ago. Carlos Santana got three years and sixty million from the Philadelphia phillies if I'm J._D.. Martinez I'm not averse to taking that gamble opting out of the contract and seeing what's out in the marketplace because I bet you he'd get something relatively close to that if he was willing to go through that process again. You've gotten a fuel for J._D.'s personality. What's your what's your best guess is we sit here in late July about what he's going to do? I feel like he's GonNa you know wait until the season see outplays out to see if this is especially because of his agents got worse. I just feel like this is something that like to completely get rid of thought. Now is not something that I feel like they would do but knowing J._d.. Martinez and knowing where his concentration concentration is on his game and how he hits and studying I think he's distracted by this. I mean how could you not be and if I were Jaydee. I would absolutely make this decision today to not opt out and just no. This is my team unless there's some reason that we don't know about that. He's just absolutely unhappy in Boston which I would be shocked out. I I really believe that this is something he's off of his place because it just doesn't seem like he's enjoying the game the way that you know he you and I both I know that he can and a big part of that is just the decision and knowing that there's a lot more money on the table this year. If even has the year that he has last year he could easily opt out and make more money but just going through that process and knowing that free agency is a whole all different ballgame so it's not like you make that decision at the end of the season. There's some sort of answer I mean he went all the way up until almost season when he made this deal with the red sox anyway I mean it came down. I remember hosmer going to the padres and him going to the Red Sox. It came within twenty four hours each other and so late and I can't imagine the stress and and for him he just wants to go out and hit flat out work on his swing day in and day out and this has been a distraction so I wish he would just make the decision. Don't opt out and stay but but knowing away that this seems to go especially with sports clients. I just feel like they're gonNA wait so just as a comp I remember when Nolan are not assigned his multi year deal with the rockies last winter in the winter before he became a free agent based from what I heard about Nolan. I was like relief for him like Oh thank goodness that he gets it off his plate and he doesn't have to worry about it every bad if every every day when he goes hitless and what is batting averages and that whole thing so you feel like in some respects expects it would be good for J._d.. Just come out and tell reporters look I'm done. I'm settled him staying on here for the next three years and nothing to worry about it anymore. Yes absolutely and I think just mentally even if he didn't make it public like even like that'd be the ideal even if it was just for him internally with his people his agent his family to say you know guys. I'm staying and I'm committed and this is what I'm GonNa do and just know that all right now. I'm GONNA lock in and get back to my swing. Um You know how many hours and how much time he spends on what he does and his craft. This is a distraction and I think for player like him. That doesn't need to have any more our spin on anything else. Make that decision now especially because this deal is free. Damn good the way it it. It would be interesting to see if the red sox got swept over the weekend. If the red sox front office would actually take J._d.. Martinez into the trade market because one thing they could do <hes> would be to market mark at him and get a piece back in trade and then they wanNA pursue them as a free agent and try to resign for next year they could do that also real quick before you go d._J.. Lemay who is at an amazing season this year. I think everybody would agree. He is the best signing of last asked off season what two years in twenty four million dollars from the Yankees and he is not GonNa win the M._v._p.. Award I think in the American league but he's going to be in the top ten. What are you seeing him? When we talk a lot and I know a lot about you know launching an exit velocity watching guys and Bat pats and you know I love it because it's a big part of the scientists hitting now and you can't be involved in hitting in two thousand nineteen and not having understanding about how guys are changing their pass? The ball just really hit more underneath the ball all and to be able to get those power number's up but then you look at D._J.. Mayhew and it's like he I it's like watching the swings of the nineties like early nineties eighties seventies. I'm just these wider swings more contact just understanding winning a situations how pitchers pitching you you'll see from him. Different swings depending on different situations and you know different how you know how you know how hard the past all is what kind of breaking pitches he saying <hes> you know sometimes it's a sixty percent swings <hes> sometimes it's eighty percents you rarely see a MAC effort all out wing and miss you know I'm doing all or nothing that you see so commonly in the game now but the biggest thing is is in the day and age where launch angle is such a trendy word word. He's very little of it and his entire philosophy is is something that I think we're all we're taught you know back to the day the t-ball hit the middle of the baseball and you know whether it's swinging not even so much down on it but just getting on plane early on to be able able to be on a path to be flat with it to be hit the middle of it and just line drives line drives all over the field and that's what Digi Lemay he does perfectly. It's not easy to do that but it's Kinda refreshing to because we'll talk a lot about different different guys that get underneath the baseball. She cody bellinger last week. I mean there's all these beautiful unique swings out there. <hes> it's nice to see one. That's still traditional and is getting the job done yeah and you talked to evaluators other teams. He's a big part of the reason why they think that the Yankees right now are the best team in baseball you hear the dodgers. Sometimes you hear the Astros. Sometimes sometimes you hear the Yankees but it's always impart built around because how the Good D._J.. Lemay has been jess. Thanks for doing this. I will see you at Fenway in Boston. Interesting creature inhabits the flat arid planes of many an automobile dashboard the bobblehead it's most agreeable and will not along to anything despite having no brain function but when the bubble had here's how GEICO no not only saves people money but also gives you access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone. You're not even more vigorously because he knows you should switch because yes switching to geico is a no brainer easy publ at easy. You can get whiplash bleacher tweets. It'll on is a twin superfan note on twitter's Rena Banana and read it before we get to the bleacher tweets that you've picked out for this Friday. Please give us the details on and how were you reacted when Errand Hicks made that incredible catch to end that wild fourteen to twelve twins lost the other night because that was one of the great heavyweight fights. We've seen a baseball this year. It was such an interesting emotion. Because of course I was jumping off the couch you know throwing whatever was in my hand but at the same time at least it was this incredible catch and not you know just a fly ball to center field that any other outfielder could've made so yeah. It was a mix of emotion mostly the anger you know I'm glad around me for that but it is what it is yeah when when I worked with Aaron Boone on Sunday night baseball and he would watch his Alma Mater U._S._C. and football he wouldn't watch with anybody else because he wanted wanted to be alone in his room. Whatever hotel we were in to react the way that he did without anybody seeing it because he just didn't think it would be very it would be received very well? What kind of response did you get on twitter <hes> to to that defeat for the twins well the night of most people left me alone which is probably a good idea but then that's a lot of really great tweets out there tweeted me asking if I was okay you know how did I sleep was recovering? Can I go to work the next day like did they need to take a six days so great response the next day little quieter the night before which is good. It's exactly how I wanted it right like Buni. You wanted to be left alone. I think <hes> when you're when you're teams plan all right. Let's get to this week's bleacher tweets. It's sounds great. Let's kick off the bleacher tweets today with this one from errands seventy at ASEM Eddie. I know it's a long shot but said the dodgers try and trade for both kindergarten Diaz for top prospects rubies and may plus other mid-level prospects. It seems like the big splash. This team needs to win the world series Aaron. I would agree with you that the dodgers are great match Fred when Diaz but I can't imagine that they would pay the huge price that would cost to get both guys is because if you look at Andrew Friedman's history running baseball ops for the dodgers he hangs onto his best guys. There's a reason why they have cody bellinger and they have cory seager because he basically fended off the request of other teams for the top prospects. I could see him trading for one guys but not for to Montgomery at M j Bob Twenty four with a lack of clear and or overpriced trade options or starting pitching could the Yankees look to one of their long relievers assertive starting pitching option. It seems that some of their long relievers such as Cortez or hail have looked better than their starters as of late yeah and they've got some internal options with guys coming back from Injuries Luis Severino Garcia pitching well in the minor leagues but I gotTa say an arena you know this because you just watch the Yankee stores and they got beat up by the Red Sox last night. If you Brian Cashman you're watching that saint now we need help one way or the other. We gotta get help for the staff absolutely absolutely P._k.. Steinberg at P._K.. Steinberg four and a half years into mixtures tenure with the nationals. Can we say that this is the best free agency signing of all time. I think we gotta wait to the end of the his contract P._k.. But I agree with view that it's been tremendous so far and it's why early this year when there was a lot of speculation about whether the nationals might market Sherzer and try to dump the contract <hes> before the trade deadline when the nationals are really struggling. I just didn't think there was anyway that was going to happen because he's he's been really good for them and he's sort of the center of everything that they're going to be trying to do this year and moving forward next. We've got Brian Simpson at December twelve o two seventy four. Hey Buster. Is there rumor that the rockies he's looking to trade. Charlie black men shrew most recent contract. Yeah it was a huge contract and it was one of those ones when I heard it. I was like wow that's a great deal for a player who at that time I think Charlie was thirty thirty one a lot out of other teams in the industry weren't we're beginning to sort of shy away from guys that age and giving those great contracts and in that case it surprised me that the rockies being sort of amid budget team would make that kind of investment it would make sense for them. They try to move the deal but look defensive metrics have been going down as performance on the road hasn't been great and although generally speaking he's still a really good player. I don't think anything would take on that contract. The rockies would have to pitch in a lot of the money they did with Lewinsky when they traded. I did too low to the bluejays less than at least we've got Vincent Hannam at V._S.. Hannam I watched Major League for the trump team time recently and thought about how catcher Jake Taylor talks matching batters in real life to psych them out. I often often see this in baseball movies but does it happen in real life I you know I don't think it happens that much. The funny exchange I heard about recently <hes> you remember when they had that bench-clearing incident between a Willson contreras and tyler flowers hours Wilson was upset that tyler flowers framing pitches well and he looked back at the empire and said really second inning. You'RE GONNA start buying into this guy's B._S.. In Tyler flowers is laughing one of the other stories and hurt. I remember Aaron Boone. I'm telling us the JOE. Girardi used to constantly talk when you were at bat to the point that Aaron turn to him and said Hey joe stop talking like I'm trying to concentrate and I suspect knowing Joe that he probably was trying to get in his head a little bit awesome whether you're a first first time listener or a longtime fan remember to send your tweets in all weekend long using the Hash bleacher tweets Rena before we go. What's at the top of your wishlist for the twins before we get to the deadline? I want Ken Giles for the twins I do you think that they shouldn't deplete their entire farm system for someone like Noah Syndergaard who I believe it would might have been you or some other tweeter mentioned that his value mostly lies and what he could do moving forward and so I really want want someone who's a quiet but released study reliever and the bullpen of course I would love some sort of a starter as well but right now Ken Giles is my number one guy yeah and it feels like that's more the twins speed like I can't see them ripping up their farm system to get syndergaard but that's not really Derek works I think he he believes that he can find better values in that and jobs would be someone to help them right away Rena. Thanks for doing this. Thank you for having me. That's it for today. My thanks Serena Dharavi Digestion.

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"Pardon the interruption but I'm Keith Olbermann. You went to see a Broadway show as night Tony. How wasn't I'm Tony? Kornheiser amazing should have seen everyone's faces when I climbed on stage so I went to see the temptation arm which is called into proud to beg which I really liked the people playing David Ruffin and Eddie Kendricks with great and they sang all the songs there are times like they sing a song just my imagination Hewitt in your own head and you actually WANNA stand up and the action do WanNa get talk to you realize you have no talent whatsoever. We're GONNA P._T._i.. New York boys and girls the woman off by lucky to be joined by that old silver pots television zone Keith Olbermann Fox Silver Fox again today with the great seasonal joy of N._F._l.. Camps opening up around the country and the great seasonal fretting over who shows up who doesn't want pro bowl veteran did show up with Safety Earl Thomas he showed up at his new digs in Baltimore but he was talking about his old coach Seattle Seattle Pete Carroll to whom he gave the finger in his very last play their Thomas doubled down saying quote. I don't regret my decision if my teammates felt like it was toward them I regret that card but I don't regret doing that to Pete Unquote Keith as someone who has battled with bosses Thomas should let go with that resentment should we just as we both battled with traffic vote and decide the answer to this because it applies equally in both directions I will say this up on forty years of reflection of forty years of battling battling with bosses each time I battled with a boss. I've remembered it. Fondly each time I battled with a boss in public. I have had later regrets for some reason now that we know for sure definitively that that's that finger was meant for this may linger within this may the definition of this man's careers ten years from now and I think you'll regret that so so to me. This is the clarity I guess that I was looking for. I saw him do that. Everyone so I'm do that. I didn't know it was to the fans. Was it to his team. I didn't know it was the Pete Camera Number One all right so I'm happy to know that it was too carol. What surprises me a little bit as I always had? The sense of Carol was a players goats and players responded. Welcome Earl Thomas did not but it also has to do the backstory is contractual negotiations and and he's sitting resented. It was a phony thing that Pekao was very broke his leg and I mean you you think to yourself at some point. You got to let this go go into Baltimore. Which is another defense first team? You probably going to be happy there and they even like with Ray Lewis and Terrell suggs. They like loud defensive. Guys let it go but have we let it go. No no not at all not at all the other thing about that that intrigued me was they went. They won Super Bowl. They should have won the next Super Bowl clearly and all you hear as years go by is about the dysfunction there the offense the defense. Everyone hates Russell Wilson now Earl Thomas hate speech and they want a lot of games for people who hate each other. The truth is out. Where's the book somebody's got to write the tell all book and it'd be worth it to read it this time all right Tony a trivia question? What time does the early game begin on Sunday in the N._F._l.? The correct answer is ten A._M.. That's where those of us who have lived in the Pacific Time Zone early games ten A._M.. late-game is one P._M.. Beach Volleyball game is four P._M.. So there's probably reaction there to news that the PAC twelve commissioner Larry Scott says his conference which carries the weight of an Antediluvian T._v. contract and is thus being gradually sucked down into the quicksand of irrelevance as discussed starting games. Names some of them anyway at noon eastern ten mountain nine Pacific in l. a. and Oregon all this means is more brunch but Tony Are you okay with the PAC twelve. Maybe kicking off some games at night. I'm more than okay with it. I think it's the only way that they have they. They were once the greatest conference in both basketball and football. They are irrelevant narrow. They have taken the idea of a regional network to an absurd extreme that is very self destructive. Nobody in the East knows their teams at all. They're not in the championships anymore. I think they have to do something like this. I don't think it's hard to play at nine in the morning. You'RE NOT GONNA play every game at nine in the morning but there's got to be a way that people like me will watch them because we don't see them now night games. That's impossible needs this is this is smart. They haven't been smart for the two times I lived in L._A.. The first one was at the end of the Raiders Rams era and we had four professional teams in L._A.. Raiders and Rams S._C. and U._C._L._A.. And then later when I came back the raiders rams weren't back there and it was just U._C._l._A. and U._S._C. and that was that was football and the second largest market that the dominance of that and the dominance historically of college football just in L.. A. Should be enough to carry the TV ratings and thus the influence of conference because if you remember the N._f._l.. Used to be kept out of Los Angeles because the Coliseum Commission didn't want the Coliseum sullied by the presence of a pro football team college football is L._A.. And back row always and there's your starting point if you get them to watch and you can watch over Brunswick Margarita or something else and have a good I mean you mentioned Larry is that the guy like I didn't know who he was but I don't think he's doing a particularly good job because U._c._l._A.. Basketball and U._S._C. Football and the Arizona teams in both sports parts and Oregon Oregon and Oregon state they are never in the national spotlight. You have to do something to get your team's noticed and they have to be watched nuts. What are you doing so nothing? Noah syndergaard who once upon a time mine was right there with Matt Harvey and Jacob degrom When Matt Harvey was still right there pitch hard last night and was as he has been lately okay syndergaards name is widely used as potential trading the mets appear to be selling not buying Keith Syndergaard is twenty six six. I think he's still throws heart which trade if you're putting me in charge of the franchise I have to fire a whole bunch of people first and then we'll discuss whether or not we trade him but the question more operative Lee is would you trust this group of knuckleheads to make any deal trading a valuable valuable asset like Noah syndergaard or anybody else because Noah syndergaard and the problems he's had this year are the direct result of the last set of bad trades that Brody van wagon and the new management team of the mets cost when they traded for Robinson Canot that that set off a chain of dominoes that winds up to infielders playing the outfield dropping fly balls and not getting charged errors and it looks like Syndergaard is less of a commodity than he is. If you're going to trade syndergaard you damn well better get a starting player Major League caliber right now Fernando teeth kind of guy or somebody who's going to be like that and a bunch of prospects. I don't think you trade them. I don't think you should trade him so because I grew up as a mets fan I still pay attention even a few hundred miles away and it's not that long ago it's like two three years ago <music> that their arms were the story runs barely in the world. I I'm just wondering I'm asking this. They went down the drain with Matt Harvey Because They did not get a Matt Harvey. They believed in his ability to come back. It did not work that make them. I'm nervous and skittish and say we gotta get rid of Syndergaard because we can't go through that again. I hope not because they're two different personalities. Syndergaard is very smart very very funny very media savvy and will take criticism Matt Harvey's biggest problem album apart from the armed thing that that ruined his career and it just was d._F._a.. The other week by the angels the Matt Harvey's biggest problem was when they said to him listen. You should do this that or the other thing to improve your image pitching your health yeah. He went screw you. I'm going to arrangers game that was his big thing and that's not the same guy as much as that's a cautionary tale for holding on and not by non selling he would not I would not get rid of syndergaard unless it was an overwhelming prospect and I don't think current management knows who that would be so I went through a Oh baseball thing that I'd mentioned the nats so you proud very proud. Okay got mentioned in not mentioning. That's that's that's NATS WANNA double header Rangers did it. I I think put out a press release saying we're tearing it down. Your favorite players will be traded. Please keep keep buying tickets anyway. Today's newspaper the Oklahoman contains a fulsome op Ed from the General Manager of the Thunder Sam Prestige over the past eleven years he writes we have celebrated on suffered together. Experience moments of extraordinary joy and extraordinary disappointment said said goodbye to old friends and welcome new ones translation. I think stars will not stay here. Get used to it to continue quote this summer. The story of the Oklahoma City Thunder is transitioning to a new phase translation. Here is Chris Paul. Please clap one more quote. The next great thunder team is out there somewhere but it will take time to seize and disciplined to ultimately sustain translation when Paul George said the players and management decided to hit it and quit he wasn't lying. Tony need to Sampras you make a case for sustained success in Oklahoma City. I'll get to that but that's a great lead and you use the word fulsome and I really liked to work wholesome thank you Sam has no chance of sustained excellence. Let us there are two ways to get better in the N._B._A.. And you have to have have a great player to get better. One is you can get a free agent. Great player does not going to happen in Oklahoma City to draft while they drafted well and they have had in the last five six years. They've had James Harden. They've had surgery bacher. They've had Kevin Durant. They've had Russell Westbrook. They've had Paul George and what they all have in common is they don't have them anymore and they're not and if you draft well then that guy leaves when he becomes a free agent if I'm in Milwaukee. I'm worried about onto Combo. I don't know how long he's going to stay when he finally becomes a free agent so so what Sam Prestige is doing is sort of running around the central issue here which is that small markets have no chance in the N._B._A.. Who just got rich? Los Angeles New York Boston Houston Miami. Nobody opening is going to Oklahoma City so I don't know how you can get better for a short period of time by drafting well but you can't hold it salary cap permits franchises like Oklahoma City to stay in business. It does not mean you're going to break the Yogi Berra construction which is if people don't WanNa go there. You can't stop them well. That's Yogi was always ahead of his time in that regard but it's the Paul George thing is so irritating to me. I watched him on television say that he and Russell Westbrook decided it was time to pull the plug so they're running on their running that they're running decided after one year into a four year contract it was time to pull the plug and this is applauded contractors suggestion Tony. What's that attitude certainly Katie La- decky the world's best swimmer got her second silver medal at the world championships? Championships today this one courtesy of a second place finish to Australia in the four by two hundred meter relay the decky had come to these championships seeking five gold medals but a mysterious illness characterized by dehydration has caused her to miss two races and underperformed who others are last event is tomorrow. It is our signature event the eight hundred meters Keith. How important is it that the decky swimming that it is not important get her out of the pool? If you will not do it voluntarily drain the pool keeper from swimming because the athlete may know their body the best but also be the best at lying about whether or not they're in good shape the quotes give it away. I almost stopped and got out. That was Monday right. I'm not myself. That was Monday now today. She she swims that went a lot better than I expected meaning. She thought it was going to be another physical problem for for her and the description of her as slightly Pale my conclusion here is she is not suffering from having gone in the pool half an hour after eating lunch yeah. This seems like not just question how is she going to do. Is You're going to improve on her world. Record issue going to win in how she going to prepare for the Olympics. This sounds like a health crisis in the making that could be averted by some rest at this time so I'm going to agree and disagree with certain points to this. It's not important because the world championships are not important. Olympics are important. Only people lynn swimming know that this event is even going on and everybody else knows when the Olympics go on but I will say this as someone who has followed her career. She's local for me. I know where this feels like the first crisis in her life she has won everything to this point this. This feels like mortality for swimmers. She's twenty two years old which used to be ancient but she's a professional swimmer now so she's going to keep swimming I think if she gets in the water and she wins it feels like indication and a reprieve and I think if she gets in the water and she loses. You know what I was sick. I'll be better yeah for the Olympics. I'm wondering if it's not important to her actually to get in this time and see how she does is this Kevin Durant in the pool is the equivalent of that. I don't we don't because we don't know what the illness if we had some better handle that we could probably you put your doctor quotas on and give her. Some doctors are saying that you know that if they're seeing improvement because they put it in the pool today I'm just I'm just wondering if it doesn't feel to her like the first crisis of her life coming up the Yankees Red Sox start a four game series tonight. Is it a significant one and we're not going to be seeing Blake's now. The pitcher cy young winner for a while possibly more importantly neither are the raise opponents most people when they hear fulsome think of folsom prison. That's use it in the correct way. Overdone I believe is the is the synonym Johnny got a tweet offset when he was three and from that day on he was hooked all he wanted to do was Gulf Gulf Gulf. He'd be on the links before school after schools all he he ever wanted was to go pro and then one day when he was holding his grandson and thinking about his twelve handicap. Johnny realized it just might not happen for him but you know what did happen for him. He switched to Geigo and saved a bunch of money on car insurance assurance so that was good and so was hanging out with his grandson is in the Red Sox opened a four game series at fenway tonight. Let's bring in a man who will be in the booth for the M._l._b.. Network Mr John John smoltz in Beautiful Boston right now. Let's start with this. The Red Sox won one hundred eight games and the world series last year going into tonight. They're eleven behind the Yankees. Can you tell us why that is John. Yes simply put they have not pitched well enough. If <hes> full run higher this year than last year they were dominant at times the rotation and this year they haven't shown any signs of consistency really when you're running out your bullpen every day having to score eight nine ten runs I think the starters orders are close to getting back to where they need to be because for the red sox get to the postseason. It's triple is simply going to be on their rotation and I think they have what it takes in rotation to not only make the wildcard but once they make the wildcard be a thorn and really defending champs they they have what it takes offensively. I think they'll make a move or two to help out their bullpen of all these go back there but the simplest answer is they just haven't gotten enough innings out of their starting rotation station which is very talented central to that rotation John Obviously as Chris sale the E._R._A.. was to about last year. It's about four now. The war last year was six point eight hundred two point three more than halfway through the season your pitcher here's another pitcher who went from perfect to pedestrian at best. Can you diagnose what's happened to Chris Sale. Well I think a combination of what he went through last year and then getting off to a little bit of a slow start getting connected with mechanics I know with Chris Sale. He's got the thorn of always being dominant and it's hard to be dominant all the time and this guy knows how to pitch. He doesn't have to pitch at ninety five ninety seven. He's got three wipe out pitches and I think he's getting closer to connecting acting with his mechanics. He hasn't been as good location wise but he doesn't have to be great and I think the back to back starts or an encouraging sign for the red sox that he's on his way to a stronger finish because let's face it in the last couple years. There's everyone talks about how he's Kinda trailed off at the end of the year so maybe it's a little bit in reverse this year and he won't have to answer those questions as the Red Sox. Make a push for the playoffs. It's going to really be on the arms of sale price Rodriguez per selo hello and I think it starts right now. In this stretch against the division rivals that they need to pick up some ground. We'll stay with pitcher cy young winner Blake snow of the race. He's out 'til September after having arthroscopic surgery on his right elbow to remove who've loose bodies which is always scary explain what that is and how that affects pitcher Yeah I've went through three of those operations and usually you come back pretty well and pretty quick but you know at the time that you just not as crisp you know I pitched an entire year and find out later that I needed surgery to replace three or four of those chips now in the fourth surgery that was Tommy John for me personally but sometimes the dynamics pitching is not exactly perfect in the elbow. No one's got a perfect elbow and from time to time that can flare up you never know when it's going to flare up and getting it removed will be a big freedom for Blake's now. A lot of pitchers have had this done and coming back is not that big of a deal from a bone chip. We'll get you out of here on this and I'm so grateful to say that Keith wanted me to ask you about his favorite team. The Washington nationals who started nine thousand nine hundred thirty one but by winning a double header last night and during the day day-night there are thirty six and fifteen cents. Could they be on the dodgers level they could and let me tell you why I mean a month and a half ago. I said the Washington nationals are not done and they're not going to be trading a bunch of their players. They have too good of. The starting rotation the opposite of what's going on here in Boston is what's going on in Washington and that's why they've had the resurgence their top three geysers good as anybody in the National League can match up with anybody. There ofensive stays healthy. He's got a lot of flexibility. The only questions been their bullpen and it seemed to settle down a little bit. That's going to be the race. We thought it was going to be in the beginning of the year in the National League piece. It's GonNa get tight and whoever can pull a trigger and make a trade. That's going to be a difference maker and of course the Atlanta Braves hold the advantage right now but if they stay pat it's going to be difficult for them to hold off the charging Washington nationals with their starting rotation so I love to hear the charging Washington nationals. Thank you John. Thank you my pleasure. You can catch John Calling the Yankees and Red Sox at seven P._M.. Tonight and tomorrow and the M._l._B. Network we're gonNA take one last break but still to come Odell. Beckham Junior makes his browns training camp debut and the cowboys leave for Oxnard but Ezekiel Elliott is not on the plane loose bodies. WHO SPIED I I would not want a diagnosis came back Tony? You have their union organizers elbow. Just don't want to have that floating spots. It's not as technical as the twenty four th birthday Alvin Kamara the saints running back with second in the N._F._l.. And rushing touchdowns last season with fourteen in only two seasons Camara has produced thirty one touchdowns for the offense. Happy Saints Kamaruddin Camp for the Saints Best Wide Receiver Fever Michael. Thomas is not keep the saints missed out on the Super Bowl the last two years as a result of a horrifying last minute touchdown allowed to Minnesota and catastrophic no quote pass interference against the rams. If not for bad luck would have no luck at all that bad luck bad luck is getting Alvin Kamara in the fantasy draft for a dollar and then cutting them in week three which is what I did. That's bad. No that's dumb luck. That's just not so happy. Anniversary Zack Bornstein on this day two years ago then Reno Aces outfielder miscalculated this fly ball all and had the ball bounce off his head and thirty feet over the fence for a three run homer this of course we're calls the most famous major league play this type a fly ball bouncing off then rangers outfielder Jose can Saco said over the wall for Homerun Keith. D You remember that one at all all I have no memory of it whatsoever. I don't even know what happened to some of the memorabilia from it. It's not anywhere that I know whatsoever. That's the hat the hat unbelievable I was covered completely empty head you see see the echo in their leftover from his thoughts. That's fantastic happy. Trails Dell's cody bellinger the front runner for the National League M._V._p.. Suffered his first ejection last night when he argued to strike calls with Home Plate Umpire Dan I Sinatra is Sonya. I look at these pictures. They are outside by significant margins. He would not have blown these calls. Those are nothing. The twitter account umpire auditor keeps track of this the worst call this year strike on Brandon jury there was eight point six four inches off the strike zone by Chris Guccione. There's at least eight this year of at least five. I have a quarter inches I for one welcome. Our robot umpire overlords one omission Choi till the whiskey announced his retirement the age of thirty four quick to the big finish here we go Ezekiel Elliott Elliott knob on the cowboys play into training camp in Oxnard. Is that a big deal. It has still tomorrow. Would you go early now. The steelers extended Mike Tomlin contracting through two thousand twenty one significant. I think so I thought he was on the hot seat. Apparently is not on the hot seat if they're going to re up levy on bell says he is up from five hundred touches this year if it will take the jets to the super bowl does that make sense well five hundred <unk> touches not five hundred times carrying the football. <hes> Odell Beckham Junior made his training camp debut with the browns. You excited yeah. He made two catches spectacular. Look he's wearying it's hard but he's a great player last one Paul Goldschmidt of.

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So...What Happened?

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

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So...What Happened?

"<music> ouch. That's his third travel tonight. Normally I get on this case for being a complete numskull but tonight. I'm chilling Stephen. What's gotten into you? I know usually I'd be off around right now but I gotta tell you this. Vivid seats thing has got me completely changed. One hundred percent authentic denikin got these great seats yesterday when a vivid seats at stress free weight. Doing you put Mayo a hotdog. What's the matter what you the old Stephen? We know baseball tonight the podcast this is the baseball tonight podcast for Thursday July twenty fifth two thousand nineteen only six days left to the trade deadline buster only and producing back Bristol's tour Farkas because at least for I think you there 'cause when we talked about what time we'd start this morning. I got back an answer that I'd never gotten before from any producer and all the shows I've ever done you mentioned that we had to back up the taping of the podcast because you have at a yoga class yeah buster. I gotta get my morning Nama. Stay on before the baseball tonight podcast. What's wrong with that weight? That's unbelievable like I'm ready to talk about trays all this controversy with the Red Sox and the strangest vision again being protests and we got held up by Yoga Class. Yeah I mean there's a lot of stress that you bring onto me. I got a distress speaking stress raise red sox on Wednesday to all bottom of the fifth inning and the raise took the lead swinging to fly ball that again less Centerfield Benintendi on the run he can't get into one hops wall stays at play Wendell around second on his way to third. He's GonNa wave home. He will score on the RB identify Guillermo Heredia and the raises their first lead hits three two so it's still three two in the eighth inning when the raise began to make lineup changes and look to cut to the chase or all there was all kinds of confusion about this about what was communicated the Red Sox who who was gonna bad in the order and what spot incredibly in the span of twenty one minutes there was one pitch thrown in between that all kinds of meetings with empires among themselves meetings with the managers after the red sox protested after Tampa Tampa Bay one three two two Alex Cora talked about what went on he brought when he moved caloric first base did he announced that he was nine spot in the banning order or it was a mess yeah it was a mess and as I say we'll be talking about this with Keith in we'll hear more sound from Alex score and from Kevin cash manager the raise about what happened the cubs in the giants before where this game cubs surprised a lot of their own players by sending Addison Russell the Triple A. and they activated Catcher Wilson Controllers is the game played out. Kris Bryant got a big hit the running client. It's a high slam ball deeply. He Plus Center back to the morning track to one home run three nothing powering drive to left-center. We've been served on the last couple of nights in in the daytime carries much better here Pat Hughes on the cubs radio network now later in the Game Bryant would have to come out because of the issue that he told reporters he doesn't think is going to be serious. He expects to play in in the cubs next game the angels and the dodgers the final game of the four between these two teams the angels incredibly in a year in which the dodgers have been so good the angels won the first three Games these two teams played and they want again on Wednesday night with help from Coal Calhoun on next delivering. Here's one it's lifted high and deep into right center field. It is Outta hair whole Calhoun. I ball swinging homers again here in the freeway series and boy oh boy Calhoun is five hits in the two games in all of them have been extra basis to homers three doubles and now it's nothing angels Jerry Smith Angels Radio A._M.. Eight thirty in in the eighth inning of the Angels Three To win in this game cody bellinger was ejected by home plate umpire. Dan Is Sonia Cody bellinger was upset with some of the calls had been made and Hembo Sandison note in that game cody bellinger took four strike goals and pitches which is outside the rule book strike zone the foremost in any game his career. He took four such pitches in his previous seventeen games combined Dave Roberts the dodgers manager talked about that issue at home plate when you see balls off the plate that flip counts and could change innings and for certainly at bats it gets. It gets frustrating time especially when you're the hitter but those calls didn't cost the game I still think that we had opportunities and they got hits with. Maybe two bellinger explained what he said to the empire just was telling them how far that it was the play. I'm it's GonNa Happen to be honest for a bad night. <hes> that's going to happen but bottom of eighth-inning one run game. We got a lock. It in the nationals are rolling. They played a doubleheader against the rockies on Wednesday in game. One Anthony Rendong got a big hit estimating the wind ringtone pitch deep left Centerfield tabby going back going back red zone pits the home run took the front by a score that from the nationals radio network in the nats would win game one three two two in game two yawn Gome who has had a tough year with the nationals got a big hit three two goals is watched lodged deep lifts Air Field Goals Pitswon Outta here that would have been to the tables above the brew House Red Seats Long-haul Run for Yon Goals over four the season it gives the national insurance they lead to nothing in Washington sweeps the double header since May twenty four they are thirty six and fifteen hundred fourteen wind pace for about a third of the season the padres as in the mets Noah syndergaard started this game from New York amid a lot of trade conversation. He was okay seven innings three earned runs Fran mile radius got a big hit off them in the top of the third now the one in two and Raya sit off the handle the VAT of the year down the left. You'll line Mike Smith not gonNA get there. It will want hop against the wall and left and ray going into second base with an R._B._i.. Double now the throw gets away on the Infield at Fran meal racing to third base and he will get their ahead of the throw another error committed by the mets one here the third end yeah mets fans not happy right there now that call ninety seven point three the fan padres beat them at seventy to a lot of talk about what the mets might be doing here leading up to the trade deadline. I think they should absolutely absolutely sell we'll see what Keith thanks cardinals. In the pirates and Paul the young has had an excellent season for Saint Louis Lyles with a look to first pitch swing and a high fly ball that shed deep left field back to the track at the wall aw that ball is gone. That's a home run for Paul Young time the game from the Cardinals Radio Network Saint Louis Wins Fourteen to seven Indians Blue Jays up in Toronto. Marcus stroman started for for Toronto surprising some other teams because Marcus is right in the center of a lot of trade talks and he was really good seven innings. She's one run allowed but that one run would be meaningful that from the battle Kevin plucky long set by Stroman Robin now the Pitch Swung Outline tribe Talev Feline Fair Ball headed to the wall on his way to third is allergies motoring around being waived. Hold here comes the relay. It'll be close. He slides he just ahead of the relay. Throw in attack by Janssen Allen got the front handed there and it's one nothing tried W._t.. A._M.. Eleven hundred Shane Bieber actually had a no hitter into the seventh inning he was outstanding Standing Swan busy struck out on three pitches got looking at a fastball for his eight and right by EM strike out number nine ball game and an absolute Jim. I am by Shane beaver one hit shut out the rest of America is now seeing white she bieber what's the most Brown people player in this year's All Star game those calls from the Indians Begins Television and radio networks <hes> again final score four to nothing after the Game Marcus Stroman talked about all the trade rumors. I realize that it could possibly been my last home star so deftly just wanted to show the krause and love because the last six seven years. There's some that I've been a blue jackets believable so I don't know what's going to happen here so I'm not trying to think about it. I'm just trying to take a day by day had a pretty good ten years a blue Jay. Hopefully this week my third inning thrown two hundred or more I feel like I've pitched pretty well in the best division in baseball you know what I mean. There's been no willingness from the Front office assignment so I've just come to terms with it and I'm ready to dominate wherever that may be absolutely dominate so many different moments has been so many <hes> it's hard to obviously fifteen and sixteen whirlwind years and those kind of moments that always hit home <hes> obviously I pitched I pitch game five and I pitched the wildcard game so to about Isa's homer and Eddie's homer so those those are kind of two scenes that kind of <hes> will always have a lasting effect on my memory for sure just that how loud it wasn't those moments and how crazy the fans were definitely always be thankful for those times like I said I'm extremely thankful for the fans from coast to coast in Canada. It's been unbelievable since two thousand twelve. I've been drafting. You know what I mean. I came in here not knowing what I was getting into and kind of tiptoeing around being a blue Jay and I've loved every second of it and it's definitely Hughes thanks to the fans from country. I've seen across the entire country whether it'd be splitting Seattle is playing in Cleveland was playing Minnesota. It's unbelievable. Also I'm very thankful that I've been a blue Jay for this long and I think it was a perfect career and like I said I'm just trying to take a day by day and whatever happens happens and you would assume that he's now going to be put on ice by the Blue Jays until they trade him. As he walked walked off the mound on Wednesday night. He got a big ovation and he clap for the fans. Phillies beat the Tigers four zero with help from J._T.. Real Muto one one swing and drive to left field. It's deep back goes Castro. He's to the wall. I can only look up. It's gone goodbye in the I drove seats in the left field stands J._T.. Real new toe the first Baseman J._T.. Review to- as it is twelfth on of the year it is a solo shot and it gives the fills a one nothing lead. We Got France Ski Ninety Four Sports Radio W._I._P.. The brewers in the reds in the tight nationally central in the as Monte granddaughter got the decisive hit and the patch. It's hit sharply sat score and going and getting by Christian Yelich third heard from Bob Euchre six twenty W._t._m._j.. The Astros took care visits against the athletics. Just burland or eleven strikeouts and six innings and George Springer got a big hit rocks back in delivers apple here. Well consider filled this ball. The Astros take a two to one st sparks spark see k._v._m.. E seven seven ninety A._M.. Satterfield gene the game of the day again the Yankees and the twins. It's like the last forty hours it was like an old hagler versus hearns fight all kinds edsa punches being thrown on both sides bottom of the first inning twins took the lead half the pitch Rosario swings a high fly ball right field going back as judge out of the warning track looks up. That's gone towering home run to write a ball that just kept sharing into the right field. Blazers Twenty second home run for any Rosario gives the twins the early to nothing lead. I'm just shaking my head. Man Baseball is a joke. It's Joe I can hit the ball pretty good but I mean for it to that. Launch Angle is is it was to carry out to right field and there's no win. Helping this thing is wound really tight and that's why we're seeing record. Numbers Chris Chris Singleton Roxie Bernstein on E._S._P._N.. Radi singing talking about the baseball which in this series seen as he said absolutely be flying top of the second inning the Yankee struck back to pitches line toward right center field on the move is Katie goes into a dive XIV can't make the catch it gets by backed up by Marlin Gonzales one run as in around thirty gleyber torres the played he scores going all the way around a third Mike Tuchman or to run triple gives the Yankees. It's re- to lead three and the Yankees would continue to build their lead through the top of the third and then in the top of the Fourth Didi Gregorius candidate plate with a couple runners on Bass one-strike pitch gregorious out toward left-center field into the alleyway way. This gets down splits. The outfielders rolls all the way to the wall judges in around third hit comes here and Hicks digging for third diving in a to run triple for D._d.. Gregorious and a nine three Yankees lead but you know what would happen in this series in these games between these two teams the twins would come back bruise drive deep left Centerfield headed toward the bullpens and another homerun Nelson Cruz. It's his twenty-second. The second of the season nine seven Yankees but you know what happened after that Zeros from the Yankees Bullpen and Edwin encarnacion applied the Khuda Gras and the top of the ninth to to incur Nacion how's the old swings and launches one left-center field back his cave to the wall and he runs that a room a home run for Edwin encarnacion number thirty for encarnacion. Get a lot of trade stuff to get to today and before we get to that with Keith Law. Are you standing your deca summer again this time. Maybe you should try something. That's stain changing introducing val spar solid color stain. It's easy to apply all weather protection that bring so much color in coverage to the the party you can bring out the color of the shudders or the planters or even your eyes. You'll love it guaranteed for ten years vowel spar exterior stain only lows the that stained changing. It's more than just a conversation. It's no weekly dish with Keith Law Baseball tonight and keep all scouts for E._S._p._N.. He writes for E._S._P._N.. He's on television E._S._P._N.. And Keith there's a lot of traits stuff to get to how you doing today. I am good tired because there's a lot of stuff going on right now but yes good or you were tired because you had to see everything going on in Tampa Bay yesterday and your brain was cramping up with the issues between the red sox and the Yankees excuse the Red Sox and the raise in all the lineup stuff going on one pitch thrown in the span of twenty one minutes with about a half dozen meetings of UMPIRES and managers. I was watching live and it was a comeback to New York on the review heads for official input put but before we get into exactly what went on and I'm not GonNa get you know as you and I talked before we got started. It would be like reading the tax code to go through the rules issues that were in place but a couple of broad points. I think we're born out by the situation. One Buksh Ambi- has been a champion of field microphones for Umpires in situations in which there's confusion and everyone the broadcasters fans are wondering what's going on my God. Could this be exhibited for that not that nothing. The young players necessarily would have had fun explaining that situation but they could have at least all the people. who were there like okay? There's a discussion going on over lineup situation where guys you hit in the order to let people know I think boob from now on she just make reference to this incident yesterday. What do you think yes oh yeah it would have made it substantially clear I just I'm not a football fan? Obviously as I think a lot of listeners now but I ah watched enough to know the value of the rest going to separates fond of the field switches on the Mike and he explains to the fans what's happening and they've been doing that cod for twenty thirty years now. It seems like it's been since I was a kid that they've had that as part of the game. How much would that have cleared things up for the whatever twenty five hundred fans it's at the game yesterday but it would have made a substantial difference? I think if they were at the umpires were able to inform the fans that obviously informed broadcasters to our people watching the broadcast what was actually under discussion yeah and some of the tweets coming out from the trump yesterday not that there was some sort of a promotion where kids were brought into the park and this this this is the focus group that's target audience of baseball trying to go for and when they got back home. They're like okay. Why didn't the game stop for twenty twenty minutes and everyone stood around talk to each other holding up a little pieces of paper and what were they talking about in this part of the game I it certainly was not attractive selling point for baseball the second point I wanna make the red sox protested the game name because it would happen yesterday? There's no chance they win. This protest. Only one protest is been upheld the last thirty five years and this is one where you I don't think he can make a strong case of the red sox would have won this game or had it better chance to win this game if not for this whole the whole issue with the lineup cards. Would you great now. What was the game that was upheld on protest? I was GONNA say I don't even remember one or the protests two thousand fourteen cubs in giants and if you remember this the cubs couldn't get the tarp onto the field when there was a rain problem and so like the groundskeepers are struggling because the wind was blowing in the field became a total morass and it was like I think the score was to o or two to one at the time and so the giants against didn't have a chance to win going forward so they protested game and and you know who else absolutely I remember talking to people during this whole issue the cups people like yeah we we should pick up the game from that point. We totally get the protests should be upheld because they weren't able to get the get the tarp on the field because the wind had gotten so strong and Wrigley field so that was the only time that a protest has been upheld the Red Sox are not going to win this protest. No no nor nor would it have made a difference. It had no impact in even if core was completely right. It's still had no impact on. I would argue it had no impact on the red sox ability or probability of winning the game okay here was red SOx manager Alex Cora talking about generally the issues that were at hand the pitcher move into a position and <hes> we felt some illegal substititions <hes> there was a mass at one point and all I got I wasn't even able to ca keep up with angel so we protest to the game. Let's go he's made reference Angel Hernandez the Home Plate Umpire. Here's Kevin cash talking about ultimately what happened at the end of all the discussions look Luther appear to be some confusion but confident that we got it right at the end of the day. Everybody got it right. Obviously not customary took place but I'm glad the guys executed pitches a lot of delays in there but fortunate that <hes> You know both Chazan Aka Jay kind of kept their heads and made big pitches 'cause they're facing the teeth of their lineup which is really really good so I'm not GonNa go to deeply into the weeds over. What was it steak but I'd say this Kevin Cash was extremely confident in what he said after the game and his body language during these discussions Keith it was like no this is what we did and here's what was communicated? Adam cleric was one of their relievers in the race have done this before this year he left handed reliever. He's pitching and and then they call for right handed. Reliever clerk doesn't go out of the game he moves to first base okay and an after one batter then they put cleric back on the mound that has been done before baseball. David Johnson did it back in the in the eighties with the mets but the question was where does the incoming reliever go into the lineup given the fact that the raise burn the designated hitter with these series of moves and what I believe happened is is that of course any lineup change made aid has to go from one manager to the home plate umpire who then communicates to the other team and my guess is based on what I saw happen is a Kevin cash gave the lineup changes Angel Hernandez in the Angel Hernandez when he told Alex Cora what the lineup changes were. They got messed up right there. Okay so what the Red Sox what the Red Sox were told was one set of things which was different than what the raise we're trying to do. Does that make sense. Yes that makes sense could be completely accurate would not justify upholding protest. Although I understand why Alex would be upset in that situation or or confused is probably the wrong word. He was given wrong information and he had the <hes> he made the right conclusion off of wrong data. Essentially it's funny you consider you said that too. I thought about the thought immediately David Johnson doing that but if I remember correctly David Johnson did that because the headache year where they reduced roster sizes to twenty four from twenty five of going memory and of course this is what thirty thirty odd years ago at this point and so oh they were sort of short short players right they were managers. Were trying to adjust having one fewer player on the roster this to me and I'm not saying that the regional wrong to do this but everybody carrying thirteen pitchers at twelve or thirteen pitches at this point and sell were still yet. We're still resorting to this kind of shenanigans to try to essentially preserve players I to me it's an argument essentially for some more structural changes to one how many batters reliever has to face which you and I've talked about before on this on this podcast and also may be to expanding rosters by at like another data point in favor of expanding rosters by one player to try to get away from this an Alex in having his arguments. I the part of the reason why I'm a believed that angel was involved in the miscommunication to Alex's because there's no way hey if the umpires had this absolutely rock-solid and their decision there's no way they're standing around with six meetings among themselves and meeting with the managers and calling back to New York unless there was confusion on their part if a making sense normally in this situation when a manager comes out and said hey what about this the go no here's what happened and stop arguing and if you don't I'm GonNa kick you out of the game but they were confused as well. Which is why they called back to New York but anyway Red Sox aren't GonNa win the protests? Oh test everyone's going to move on. I know people were trying to hold us up as an example of what's wrong with baseball's pace a play. This was completely outlier situation but meet the your point. I think it probably will lead to streamlining of some rules so we don't get into this and you can understand why alexkor place the protests. It's not going to not gonNA work all right. Let's get some trade stuff last night. Marcus stroman WHO's one of the primary targets in the trademark it started for the Blue Jays and it was interesting Keith eighth in the in the recent days. I've had executive asked me <hes>. Do you think the Blue Jays will let stroman pitch that game and I thought about that and I was like you know that's a really interesting question because there were six days before the deadline Marcus Stroman. He's been pitching well. He's healthy. I think is value in the more trademark. It has been demonstrated. There's a strong belief among other teams that the Blue Jays are going to trade him but he went out he took the ball. He threw well against the Cleveland. Indians is one run allowed in seven innings. Nasty movement on a sinker had a nice ovation when he walked off the mound. I still wonder if that was the right thing to do by the Blue Jays I think I would have put him on ice. If I were in Toronto shoes I know check around last night in the thought on the Blue Jay side was it's a long time to put a guy on layaway but boy given what can happen in a given start. I think that's probably what I would have done. What about you know I think I would let him pitch two reasons number? One is reason you just said which is is that someone said to you. It's a long time to let him sit. It's not like we were on the thirtieth for example. If a team chose not to pitch a particular pitcher the night before the deadline. I understand that a lot more plus the night before the deadlines at G._N._C. might get traded during the game right. Discussions are absolutely picking up at that point because you're less than twenty four hours away from the actual time of the deadline. The thing is that there's so much. I don't mean to be hyperbolic Alec about it but I feel like there's a fair amount of distrust now across baseball when a player isn't playing in this applies to a position player to she's more frequent with starters suddenly weight wise knee playing tonight what are are they not telling us. Was He actually her other really just holding him backwards. He actually hurt. Do we not know something new big part of why you send scouts to go see especially major league players low right there I saw or is it a short season game last night and they were more scouts at document. I'd ever seen a short season game three. You might still send scouts up to see Major League players or even a well known prospects where you have plenty of information a lot of it is just make sure he's healthy. Just make sure he goes out and he's not suddenly throwing and four miles an hour slower than he normally does and I wonder if they had sat stroman. If other teams would have said way to see is he okay. Are they really they're saying they're holding back but if there's something we don't know Oh that should affect our ability to trade for the player and instead the Blue Jays took the the modest risk of him. Maybe not throwing well but at least got to demonstrate to everyone now he's fine. It's completely healthy and it turned out. I think he only helped the blue jays caused. I think help change of scenery would be good for both sides yeah and they won't pitch him. He could start theoretically Monday. He's not going to down day now not pitch again before the tree deadline because he's GonNa now. He said it'd probably yeah exactly and he'd say a strange. <hes> trade market for starting pitchers which is really for this summer is at the center of the trade market. I was looking at you know sort of broad strokes. There are a couple of potential free agents who are available in Trade Zach Wheeler the mets but he's coming off the injured list to start on Friday. Jason Vargas of the mets Madison Bumgarner is a tweet it out yesterday. These like the image on on Mardi Mais flies family picture in back to the future. He's disappeared slowly. We right from the trade market. I'm I know that the giants loss yesterday but I think in less the giants are swept by San Diego over the weekend I think Bumgarner staves with the giants and they keep him for the rest of the urine they ride out how while they're playing now. Because Far Han Zaidi I either had a baseball OPS first year there. It'd be so difficult for him to continue to try to do business in that town in that organization if he pulled up the roots of this great run that they've been on without <hes> you know giving him a chance has to play it out and so bumgarner disappearing but they're a bunch of starting pitchers being talked about who are under teen control beyond this your Trevor Bauer Stroman Noah Syndergaard Robbie Ray the diamondbacks Mike Minor. Enter the Rangers Matthew Voided the Tigers and there are fewer buyers in there are those type of pitchers. The Astros are going to get a starting pitcher Yankees Braves phillies Oakland twins. Perhaps maybe the brewers although I wonder her if if they would necessarily be a big buyer so it's it's a really kind of a strange pitching market because you would assume that moves you're going to be made but it really comes down to okay which of the sellers blue jays the Indians maybe blink a little bit and come off. They're really high demands to try to bridge the gap with some of the buyers what you read on where some of these guys might land yeah. That's I think your take on the teams. Every eighteen you listed seems likely to at least want to acquire a starter. They want necessarily all do so obviously but I think every one of the has an actual knee and his position in a position in the standings word probably makes sense to do so. I wanted to just jump back to Bumgarner for one second. I agree with you. I date that the public reaction to them trading bumgarner would be very poor right now. The starting seem is not actually that good though they've been outscored they unless they look been outscored on the season. It's really unlikely that they're gonNA make the playoffs Joe Sheehan wrote about this in his newsletter his email newsletter yesterday to talk about how various sites fan graphs in baseball perspectives of the giants playoff playoff odds is extremely low. It's probably a mirage. It's probably in some sense the worst thing for Farhan where I'm sure he would love to trade all of the assets on the major league roster and continue to rebuild the farm system and accelerate the rebuild overall and maybe feels like he can't necessarily do so the flipside is sue back to your point what if with it put bumgarner out there and they just don't get good good offers for him he's not the pitcher was obviously five six years ago and there are a lot of other. Maybe better starting pitcher options if you had the chance to treat for Bumgarner or Marcus Stroman. I think I'd take stroman certainly further. If I'm thinking just who's helps me more the rest of the season almost certainly taking stroman in that situation so I could see maybe two or three of the guys on your list moving <hes> I doubt all of them will move. I think all of them are eligible. I don't I think in the end maybe only like I said two or three of those teams on your list especially the Yankees Indep actually making making significant traits for starting pitchers yeah and I mentioned Noah syndergaard being available. Edwin Diaz has also being available. I was told that the mets are seriously listening on Noah syndergaard. I still think in the end the my instinct is is that in order to to trade syndergaard into Trey D. as it would be a case ace where the the mets front office would have to basically knowledge a mistake with the way that they went into two thousand nineteen. I don't think that they would do that because to me. Keith look if you wind up trading syndergaard and you and I know this like there are a lot of teams just <music> salivating at the opportunity to try to get their hands on syndergaard and do things that make adjustments and make fixes that they think would make him better but if you were to seriously consider trading aiding syndergaard then you should go all in like if you're going to trade syndergaard or D. as you might as well trade the other guy and you might as well see what else you have value and do a full reset which is probably what they should have done last winter yes absolutely should did. They should have evaluated trading. I always say this you should they should've looked at trading degrom slash end and or syndergaard. Do you put them out there. You may not get offers as you like and you may decide are it's not worth it to trade those guys but that should have been the strategy instead. What did they do? They traded the guys. I had one two in their system. Jarred calendars emerged as a superstar prospect since the trade to Seattle Justin done. He's also looked very very good. Since the trade Seattle their trades on the whole worked at extremely poorly for them they have a little bit more of a mix track record on the free agent signings but also not great <hes> an in the process. I think set the club back a couple of years because they did so much much harm to the farm system. They could try to close some of that back. I agree with you on his syndergaard trade. I also wonder if they kept syndergaard. Incentive looks like he may be as figured something out with his slider overreact to pretty small small sample but he's a lot more valuable right if that sliders back close to what it looked like a year two years ago he's a more valuable property for them. Could they potentially get more value if they were to retain him. Try to trade him in the offseason season. Maybe but I think it's a situation where they'd have to make firm decision. Now all right we're all in were selling even though it's an acknowledgement of mistake in the off season and then just see what you get and if you put syndergaard out there like just sit on Bumgarner if you put him out there. You don't like the offers you get you don't have to trade him but at least explore it and see if someone's willing to blow your weight seems like the padres have been linked to him for nine months now. Maybe they're willing to give up a couple of their top prospects. They certainly have the depths deduce so maybe they're willing to give something thing to get syndergaard. 'cause they recognize that. He's somebody that could maybe fix and who helps them going into next year yeah and for me the padres on paper would be a great match for a deal. I mean it feels like that. There would be a lot of a middle ground that the two teams could unidentified to finish your syndergaard deal and Syndergaard to be perfect for the padres as they move forward with the scrape group a young players that they have just a quick follow up on it. I think you agree with me. Although the the Yankees and mets might be talking about syndergaard there's no oh chance these two teams will make a trade involving syndergaard because I just don't think the mets ownership wants to watch into guard potentially wind up being part of a championship dog pile across the city and across the back pages. What do you think yeah well? What if he goes does there? The Yankees are pretty good track record with <hes>. It's funny. I'm going to see their lawyer affiliate Charleston Tonight and potentially tomorrow night to exit pretty good track record of getting more out of pitchers <unk> speaking a little more specifically prospects but still they seem to know something. They're doing something right on the pitching side where if syndergaard goes over there and turns into the guy we all thought he was going to be comedy to three years ago and they'll and then the mets have to watch him dominate the sports sports pages in New York for the next year and a half yeah. That's I think the will worst nightmare and I'm not saying that's a good reason not to treat them to the Yankees but I'm sure that that would be online and I want to ask you about Diaz. Yes follow up on that. We talked about the dodgers. I've been told that they're focused going up. The trade deadline not surprisingly as four high end relievers. We talked about Brad hand. I don't think the Indians will trade him. We've talked about sleep a Vasquez Neil Huntington the partial managers basically basically thrown water on and no we we're going to contend in two thousand twenty. We think Felipe is going to be a big part of that. I think you and I would both look to sell Vasquez but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. I gotTa Tell You Edwin D.. As would be great ray target. I feel like for the dodgers to give them that type of reliever. They're looking at and I think there's a you know I see and social media <hes> concern about the the mets having to sell low and Edwin D. as I don't think that's the case. I think you're talking about a young reliever river. Who's still has great stuff? His average fastball velocity Keith every year in the big leagues including this year is been exactly the same incredibly according to fan graphs ninety seven point three miles per hour. There's a he was perceived to be the best reliever in baseball baseball last winter and again teams acquire players these days with a plan in mind and I'm sure the dodgers internally would feel like Oh yeah we can fix him. We can get him back on track because you're talking about someone with an electric arm. I love the potential match over the dodgers in the mets on trade. What do you think yeah I agree with the matchup agree with the general sentiment? Maybe is ninety percent of what he was last year but still a right illegal and high end reliever. I there's no I've seen him and from what what I've seen on their the publicly available data fan graphs baseball salons etcetera the stuff is fine. It's exactly where it was last year that it's been accommodation of shade of less commanded that he's missed some locations locations more plus. Maybe some worse luck to leuke seemed to <unk>. He's been a bit more homer. Promptness year is that him or is that somebody's worse outcomes and the baseball exact and the mets defense offense alright suddenly playing guys out of position so or or fort pushing into positions. They shouldn't be asked to climb there. It's a better way to put it so I I agree and frankly that's the first I betrayed if I were the mets. If if you were this team a high closer is a luxury you don't mean goat and if you can trade him and get to decent prospects from an absolutely loaded dodgers farm system not to of their top four who were on my top fifty overall but maybe get too good look prospects out of the dodgers system. I think you yeah at Wendy's in the mets right now. It was like a Rolls Royce ornament on a Honda right right. It doesn't make sense at this point moving forward and before you go. I want to ask you about the nationals nationals Keith. They swept the double header from the rockies. Yesterday they are thirty six fifteen since May twenty-fourth that is one hundred fourteen wind pace over almost a third of the season. I was around that team last weekend men air confident and they are plan well and they have excellent starting pitching and Mike Rizzo their general managers really good at making traits terrific reputation among his peers for generally speaking how the trades workout as well I would fully expect they're gonna add to relievers and that is a dangerous team in my eyes. What do you think I was just going to ask you depending on where you want without question? What are they meet? I'm not sure what the bullpen it's right. Yup set one hundred percent. There's no other relievers sought anywhere on that roster well and you. I think you can do that. I don't know that they're going to turn obviously they probably wouldn't line up at the pirates since they traded him to the parents in the first place. There's always a supply of relievers in in the trade market. I think that's true once again this year. Maybe it's not for the highest end. Maybe that not trying to get a D. as they're not trying to get a Vasquez but could they get quality late-game options elsewhere in the market. Yes yes and I think that's also probably a better fit because the national farm system is weak at this point from trades and promotions. They just kind of used up a lot of what they've acquired. They've been drafting low. They traded a Lotta guys in the result of that is a unsurprisingly that the farm system is probably weaker than it's been at any point since I took over as G._M.. Yeah and here's the type of deal I could see them making and this is just ripping. This is me speculator they call the Kansas City royals and say look we want Jake Dickman your left-hander and we'll take Ian Kennedy a lot of money. He's owed about nineteen million dollars through the rest of this year in for next year he served as a closer this year. He's done a good job. He's pitched okay and we'll take on twelve million dollars of Kennedy's money of the Nineteen nineteen million for this year next year and so we get to relievers in return and we give you a backup catcher in class say so you get some return but we free up some money for you moving forward. That's the type of deal I could see the nationals making upgrade their bullpen yes they you should have the cash available to to cover that. It's probably better for them to use cash less payroll room rather than to try to essentially get trade high and prospects. They just don't have that that I think would take them out of the market for a player like C.. D. S. created. I think creativity is probably going to be the key for the nationals to get the two relievers. You're talking about Keith. We'll have fun and rest up because it is going to the a busy six days. I'll see you in a few days. 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N. subject to credit approval rate include zero point five I percents auto pay discount terms and conditions apply in offers or subject to change without notice visit late stream dot com slash be with yen for more information before the twins and Yankees played on Wednesday Roxy Bernstein of E._S._p._N.. Radio caught caught up with Nelson Cruz. Give a lesson for you made a decision to come here in the off-season. What's it been like coming over here? After the great run you had Seattle it was nice. <hes> it'd be nice this'll be able to raise to be bars so should remarkable season and you know just Greg Guy you know funds and the whole city and ball is being a blessing. We're talking Rocco Ball Deli about this team and he got the sense around Spring Training Nelson that you know there's some special with this group. When what was the feeling that you had when you saw for the first time that the potential for this team could be through the roof well before I think last year even when I was another cy I saw talent I just want to time and we think leaks and if you look around in their worshippers years as a group group Jong is everything clicks within? It seems like we are up h you've been on some. Really good teams throughout the world series but you look at this lineup. Have you ever been part of a group that has this much depth you look at the balance and the power one through nine that everybody can really swing it over here definitely remarkable all we'd been doing. Maybe the type of talent that we have is the roof. You know one nine every day. Someone knew something positive impact again and only with a bad even on the basis of all making a good place so all around. It's really always enjoyable to common what somebody do that day to help us for you personally. You've seen a lot in this game. You've been around a lot of really good teams but coming over here for for you as a veteran. Did you try to bring that presence that knowledge and help the younger guys and bring them along this clubhouse. Well like you say I think experienced help you guile maybe the way he played because that's who you are as nature but some tapes to to make it better player to prepare for every game. You know mature. You'd wait for every single game. Maybe brings on Communism Nikola hot and say. How much fun are you having with this group? Definitely it's fun even the Games. It looks like we lost Laurent. We come back in and make an interesting you know so whenever behind whenever out of the game numbers game is a reporter and a producer friend Melby Dot Com Sarah how you doing today. I'm doing great. Thanks so much for having me about her all right so a couple of weeks ago I saw on twitter. Someone said Hey one is Sarah GonNa do her list of talk ten pitches in baseball and so the public has demanded that we get your top ten pitches in baseball and we'll start with this. We'll have a reliever edition later in the year but just for starting pitchers top ten pitches back in the day. Maybe it was a Roy Halladay sinker. Maybe was a Bob Gibson fastball. Tom Seaver fastball aspel but these are the top ten pitches in baseball for starting pitchers last year. The number one pitch was what Jacob degrom fastball. That's what we that's the we ended up with. I mean we saw obviously the season that that he had it's hard not to argue with any pits being off the number one from last year very nice all right so let's do this year's top ten pitches starting with number ten number ten so number ten. Is that degrom fastball that I just mentioned obviously last year. He had an incredible campaign something we really hadn't seen in a while with one seventy e._R._A.. And everything else and that pitch really carried him this year he's been good but he hasn't been as life out in fact the first time I made this list. I didn't have him on there and then I thought about it again and I remembered that his fastball has a ninety six point eight mile an hour velocity of Suzanne which is the second fastest forcing boss Ity of any starter who's thrown at least seven hundred fifty fastballs. He's allowed to three ninety expected slugging percentage and to twenty six twenty six. Excuse me expected batting average which are based on quality of contact. That's GONNA come up a bunch here because we're really trying to think of not just the result they've gotten but maybe the results they. They should have gotten number nine number. Nine is Chris Sale slider. This one's another that I think was higher up last year. I think a lot of people would've expected. Maybe higher up just based on body of work. It hasn't been quite the same pitch pitch for him this year but he's still been really good his eighty nine strikeouts on his slider. which is the second most of any pitcher on sliders? He's allowed a one ninety opponent average but an even lower one sixty six expected opponent batting average which again again tells you that he's allowed very poor quality of contact which is what you would want and there's a similar story with slugging percentage of three Oh seven slugging percentage allowed and a tooth fifty expected slugging percentage laugh and we've got Chris Sale and so then baseball bowl. I'M GONNA ask him on Saturday if those numbers make sense to him because we've seen him struggle this year but as you say we've seen slider be pretty good number eight number eight is Blake Snell's curveball so I have this is another pitcher who kind of like sale has struggled struggled this year but the one thing with lakes and I'll struggles this year as it has not been on his car fall so he's sixty strikeouts on his curve ball which is not the most but remember he missed time. It's still fourth most on the pitch. He's a twenty nine point. Four percent put away rate which which is the fifth highest on the pitch among starting pitchers fifty five point one percent whiff rate which is by far the highest of any starting pitcher on a curveball. He's allowed a one seventy six opponent average a one fifty seven expected opponent average and a three eighty slugging and even lower to ninety three expected slugging number seven number seven is Max Scherzer fastball has been the fourth most valuable fastball according to fan graphs pitch values which talk about runs allowed based based on when the Pitcher has used that pitch he has seventy-nine strikeouts on the pitch which is tied for the fourth most on four steamers. He's allowed to ten opponent average and he is a twenty eight point four percent put away rate which is third highest of any pitcher Toronto four seamer number six number six is Louis Casio's changeups. This pitch was a lot of fun last year but he didn't have a great year this year. He's having a really exciting year and this has been a huge reason. Why and I've had so much fun looking out stats on this all year so it's been the most valuable changeup according to fan graphs which should be no surprise if you've seen him pit his ninety nine strikeouts on his changeup? Nobody else has more than fifty eight strikeouts on changeups this year. He's a thirty three point. One percent put away rate which is the highest among starters on changeups which makes sense given the number four before that he has fifty point three percent whiff rate on the pitch which is the highest among starters. He's allowed a one twenty-seven opponent average to fifteen opponent slugging percentage. I mean people are just not hitting this pitch and it's so much fun to watch number. Five number five is Stephen Strasburg curveball. It's been the second most valuable curveball according to fan graphs he's allowed for he's induced a forty two point three percent whiff rate on that pitch which is well above them. The average of twenty one point three percent on curve balls his a one seventy-one opponent batting average and a one seventy six expected batting average which tells you that the quality of contact has matched matched up with the results. He's gotten and similar was slugging percentage a to twenty-six slugging percentage and a two thirty one expected slugging percentage and I gotTa tell you that when you watch him pitch when he throws at Kabul the body language in the hitters is always like really I the deal with that that fastball and that change up an unbelievable koerbl number four number four is Charlie Morton's curveball so that's been the second most valuable pitch of any type according to fan graphs this year and the most valuable curveball he is ninety five strikeouts on his curveball. Nobody else has more than seventy seven strikeouts on curveballs this year. Morton has a forty point four percent whiff rate on that pitch which is again above that M._l._b.. Average of twenty one point three percent he's he's gotten seven point nine inches of horizontal movement verse average on his Kirpal which is third highest among qualified starters and batters hitting just one twenty six against it with a one seventy slugging percentage number three number three of Max Scherzer slider so it's been the second most valuable slider according to fan graphs his a thirty two point one percent put away rate which is the highest on that pitch among starting pitchers fifty one point seven percent whiff rate second highest among starting pitchers on sliders swung at and he's allowed a one eighty one batting average and even lower one fifty nine expected slugging percentage so the what this is telling us is that masters are slider has been so good and it should be even better that the quality of contact he is allowed says that he should have allowed even fewer hits on that pitch which is pretty crazy. If you've seen that pitch number two number two is Garrett coals for seamer so it's been the third most valuable ooh fastball according to fan graphs but a lot of other things might tell you that it's been the most valuable and I thought about putting this number one and I'm still flip-flopping in my head here so he has one hundred thirteen strikeouts on that pitch and nobody else has more than eighty five strikeouts on four Zimmer this year. Here's a one eighty opponent batting average one of two starters to allow allow an average below two hundred on four seamers this year one eighty six expected batting average allowed on four seamers which is tied for the lowest and again. That's just two who percentage points away from the actual average which tells you that the quality of contact has matched up with the results. He's gotten he's a thirty point. Eight percent put away rate which is the second highest of any starter on four seamers and the thirty seven point three percent sent whiff rate which is by far the highest any starting pitcher on a four steamer and he is a free agent in the fall at age twenty nine. He's GonNa make a lot of money number. One number one is Justin Burland or slider so it's been de most valuable slider according to graphs and part of why it's number one ahead of Garrett Cole pitches just because we've seen how valuable pitches like sliders have become especially in new sort of way that we've seen the game being played. It's the third most stilo pitch overall of any type he's a one thirteen opponent average which is the lowest among starters <hes> with at least one hundred played appearances ending on sliders and he is the lowest expected batting average to and I think it's so impressive what he's done. I think his entire season it has been so impressive. I don't think we expected him. Necessarily a couple years ago to still be going strong at this age and here he is and that pitches unhittable and the fact that you have Justin Burland number one in Garrett Cole his rotation made at number two the Astros Astros. I think probably goes a long way toward underscoring Robert Van Square the hidden coats for the dodgers been telling his players look the regular season is just a dress rehearsal for the postseason because you get into the postseason. You'RE GONNA face elite pitchers that might I be what happens with these two guys Sarah Java this list thanks for doing this. Thanks for having me investor high fuster only here and my friends at marathon are really helping you save because right now you can get five cents off every gallon every day with naked camp rewards from from Baratheon plus you can earn points additional savings on fuel airfare hotels in more. It's quick and easy to join just visit make it count dot com slash radio or download the free APP so start saving today with make account for marathon offer valid only at participating marathon locations marathon fueling the American spirit bleacher tweets blustery got some really good bleaches tweets this morning. I one comes from P._K.. Steinberg P._K.. Steinberg Buster what is the point of playing a game under protest he's of course referring to the red sox rays game. Does the protests ever changed the result. After the game ends. Yes it can change the result we mentioned that game in two thousand fourteen where the giants protests over tarp situation and Wrigley Field as hell and of course the most famous protests the George Brats Pine Tar incident they wound up <hes> protesting that and the royals protests was upheld and they won. That's why they protest sterling astor right seven three hey buster with Trevor Bauer Shane beaver might clemenger and a rehabbing Corey Kluber on the way back will the Indians had the second best starting playoff staff behind the dodgers. I put the Astros Adam because we are from Sarah Excellence at the front end with Verleger Garrett Cole. I think that they're gonNA wind up trading for starting pitcher and I don't think trump tower is going to be on the team on August. I it might be wrong but that's my guess as of today I agree with you. There Brian Simpson be simp- one two two zero two seven four is Noah syndergaard's trade value still pretty high. He hasn't looked at dominant this year. One of the mets wanting forum. They're gonNA want other teams to pay for his potential and not his two thousand nineteen results and I think they're absolutely would be teams willing to do that. As I mentioned the Keith though I don't know if that <hes> the the mets leadership is prepared to acknowledge that they made a mistake with their approach in two thousand nineteen and sell off Ed India's Noah syndergaard etc kirk tool at Kirk the tool reese hoskins has twenty. One home runs sixty three R._B._I.. Any nine eighteen o P._S.. Is he getting overlooked because disappointment and his teammate Bryce Harper season thus far when we turned in our all Star Team E._S._p._N.. Dot Com I had reached Hoskins as the we <hes> phillies all star. I thought he's been really good. It's a great point card next one comes from Chris Preston a buster and troy. Is there any truth to a team being scared of another team. Oakland just can't seem to get the upper hand on Houston but the angels my rangers and other teams seem take Houston down all the time yeah. I don't think there's any doubt through the years so we've seen examples that I did for example <hes> decade ago. I always thought the twins there was something when they played the Yankees it was like they were welterweight going up against heavyweight and they would just get crushed and big spots so I do think that those things exist interesting last week comes from Austin Leclair at big red one zero four four if you could be baseball reporters in any era of baseball. What time would you choose? Would you go in the past. Stay in the current or even go to the future. I'd go back to the stare at era. I've written about this if talked about this. I feel like I didn't do a good job. Covering the steroid issue I was focused on trying to get one name one player to talk about what was going on on and economists the big picture stories and talking to people about the impact of steroids generally on the sport and I didn't do a good job. I'd love to have a Redo but it's not going to happen. I would go back to the era before night games that I could get out of the ballpark all park earlier and go to bed early on no kidding unbelievable so you can get to yoga class in the morning exactly thank you for the bleacher tweets. Keep them coming at buster at myself use Hashtag bleacher tweets and that's it for today my thanks Nelson Cruz Roxy Bernstein to Keith at law to Sarah Lanes in Detroit Farkas who's finishing this podcast today to get to his second yoga class today have a great everybody thanks for listening. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast. If you're playing fantasy baseball don't forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast podcast check out all podcasts at E._S._p._N.. Dot Com slash pod center baseball tonight the PODCAST technology truth brought to you by GEICO truth teenagers can.

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Mason and Ireland (HR 1)

Mason & Ireland

35:48 min | 2 years ago

Mason and Ireland (HR 1)

"Right F._M.. Thursday you know we always do at Friday yeah but this would this week is unusually weird. 'cause it's basketball finally calm down. Yes football is revving up but not quite whereas in there and baseball the dodgers just decided not show up for the freeways. There's that's not fair. They played hard. They just lost to one run game. Yeah yeah there was a mythical money. Though oh yeah I'm coming. I'm coming like a last place horse that founded stride to go money sponsored by the Bicycle Hotel and casino last night. I lost twenty five hundred dollars on the dodgers <hes> and and where do we stand so yesterday. We got into a spirited discussion about the T._N._T.. Players on off GonNa miss the player and you're literally the only one and Mason said to me off the air he said said to me. I said you know nobody likes that players only and he he said no no. It's just you media guys. Don't like yeah you guys full regular pencil wait. We're going the air and in Mason goes. I'll Betcha I it easy five thousand signatures to bring back players only and I went fine done. Let's thousand dollars miracle money and you'd be twenty four hours and off the your mason privately said this is going to be the easiest money ever made he goes. You don't understand Dan tough at his regular. People love players Pino won the rake and they're not the people that are in the league like you rank and file fans like me although I couldn't believe in he was totally trolling me and trying to get me to react. I didn't go for it like one of my best friends. One of my like five best friends. Yes tweeted what a lousy decision by T._N._T.. Brought some fun to the Games. It's so bad I might even sign the at Venice Maze Padilla today you go but what is Steve with with two hours to go do we do we do it until the start fast route. Five thousand signatures wins you the bet. How many signatures do you have as of twelve twelve o two today one hundred twenty nine this way by the way there are four hundred fifty nine views of the petition and you only have one hundred twenty nine reading reading it going this guy's fuller exciting this at five thousand people listening to the station right now? Was I sure do I are there five thousand Mason fans out there right now. No come on obviously there are one hundred twenty nine Mason. I'm tweeting this hour. I know in for me people. They won now Greg. What about my my offer that if one hundred people would unfiled mason the one hundred on follow would get passes to Mason movie night? What did anyone on follow him? Yes he yesterday he did <hes>. Let's see WHO's at fifty five one thirty five. He has now at fifty five one twenty seven so did I did give away for a four four-pack tickets to the guy that was the one hundred person to re tweet. What one hundred twenty nine correct use semi that counting the retreats already Senate's promotions? I did find the guy and number one hundred is going to be at the movies with us. So I'm tweeting. Come on guys I speaking by the way of Oh see week. That's Mason movie night. Is the Monday voc- week in ten minutes. Greg explained the mystery box you you all we know is that boxes boxes are coming in here and we're opening them that pretty much the extent of it yeah to the point where I don't know it's in the box but see you have these. Do you see weeks. See this says Steve Mason. It's a white it's about the size of a shoebox right and then you can just open it up as an E._S._p._N.. Los Angeles Angels Logo on it. You just have to say what it's an O._C.. Week Mr O._C.. Week mystery bucks a lot of people asking me about Oh see week. Oh there's a lot well. This is your these. Are Your pl yeah a lot of this. You're part of the world so <hes> it all starts on Monday August fifth I tweet out. Come on guys do this for me. Just sign it. I don't care if you like players. Only are not doing solid. I'm going to respond to this in a public forum. Come on let's get there's a new one follow for you Mason Mason. There's a new one follow for you. Okay good. This is from someone you know someone. You'd like a friend a friend Beto Duran has followed you go beto Drennan. I have an on it off relationship so he never had me on his <hes> his. You were on his podcast what he's doing that podcast before. We went to the L._A.. Times yeah. He never had me on that. I've been on both I was on the old one and I've been on the new one on the L._A.. Times one yeah I've done either. You know what I'm on following right now. Damn him damn him so yeah we also there was a chain of of text messages today. What is this? This is your fault right. You're the one who started Oh. I started it yeah yeah so mason just goes to the most he he goes through his phone and looks at the most recent Texas change between that it involves Greg Mason and me but he didn't notice is it also involved Sodano. I don't know how you got on the chain but he did so basically you've been sending texts all day to Sodano you've been sending him are playbook playbook since like eight o'clock this morning right that is correct since eight o'clock this morning and let's see the text messages are like it's the doldrums. Let's get a gas how fasten what else can we do Jeff <hes> Greg Saint just mess around just goof around and Georgia's in on all this stuff. I'm trying to get Georgia's going to bring this up later so John. I'm getting ahead of the story <hes> so I wanNA tell my story so other people don't hotel enrolling for P._R.. So he happened to be story house before someone tells it for you. No big deal not a big deal. It is the doldrums really is the doldrums all right so we've got by the way I don't know if Greg do you have coli with Chris Hanes answering the question just on followed better during a very so. I don't know people love to makes makes stories and connect you say the N._B._A.. You trust the N._B._A.. Media I do I listen to the N._B._A.. Media sure so the N._B._A.. Media for longtime was saying Oh magic Johnson screwed up the LAKER negotiations with glide. What was it theory right so yesterday? Chris Hanes asked Coli Yup quite know that's absolutely not true. I had a perfectly normal conversation with magic. I was close to sign him with the Lakers. This situation just was that was totally fair to speculate about right but I'm saying by the way you'll take speculation as Gospel and it's not and by the way nobody necessarily said that's what's. I theorized that that's what screwed it. I don't know I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about there was a story in the athletic. Yesterday yeah or someone is quoted. The second magic went public. The Lakers were out quite said no absolutely nice rue right. You know it's just we're assuming the coup why is GonNa say what he's really thinking. But why wouldn't he well. Why would he because alienate Magic Johnson but why he hasn't done the lose I don't? I don't think why is lying. <hes> the he basically just said this clipper situation situation was exactly what I was looking in fairness. They're multiple. People said that the entire negotiation was about <hes> was a loyalty test and the one who I didn't want. was anybody talking publicly days mattress going on. I know he says says it's not true. That doesn't mean it's not true yeah. That's what he's saying by changing subject here breaking news who is Tyler White Tyler white is a first baseman a right handed first baseman who is designated for assignment by the Houston Astros a few weeks ago the dodgers spun off a AA reliever whose name is literally Scrub Andrei Scrub Aa Reliever who is literally named Scrub. In order to get a right handed bat a guy who can play first base and gives them potentially right handed bat off the bench and maybe a scrub as well and maybe the the people speculate. Hey maybe this is the new Max Muncie well. They have to create a spot on the roster to make room forum. One possibility is Kiki. Hernandez could go on the injured list. He left the game last night with the left hand injury <hes> Chris Taylor's already on the injured list so anyway welcome Tyler White. The dodgers have traded for Tyler Tyler. Yes all right so coming up next. We'll open these mystery boxes and May. Do you know what happened twenty nine years ago today twenty nine years ago today in nineteen eighty nine so that would be thirty nine. That's thirty nine thirty nine years ago today twenty nine years ago today. I thought you were talking about the day. I got to Los Angeles because we're right about their. No this would be one thousand nine hundred thirty nine nine years ago today. Oh No I have no idea July twenty-fifth nineteen eighty no clue very significant day in sports history until you what it is coming. Okay cool. Hey Tim Hopson tweets. I hate players only but for you mason I will do anything <hes> James tweets pick a different hill maze. No one likes to play rear at one hundred ninety five signatures so we are picking up steam on. I think you have an excellent chance players only elite where the Boxes Johnson we owe Jefferson Jasmine Jasmine have walked in. Thank you all right. I've told us we have to open the mystery cases so owed shirts okay so excellent. Hey that's a good look insure right there O._C. E._S._p._N.. O._C. Orange County week great shirt and shirt another one what golf balls I'm very happy with okay my shirts okay. The gray one fits the blue one. I have to give to Jack Ireland because the blue ones too small but golf balls didn't give you golfing golf balls handed over to me. These are excellent say O._C.. Week really yeah. They say yeah they do. They put the logo on them excellent. You can lose mace the questions. You're playing three holes three holes. There are twelve balls here. You play the three holes with twelve. What do you think I can play him with one sleep so you played one ball so Chris Morales told me I should get some kind of golf lesson before I go that would ruin the seventeen what cursory Sirri plain black gold black gold? He says the seventeenth hole is the hardest hole on the course so that's when you should play yeah. That's GONNA play but I don't know if twelve balls will be enough. Is there a Kerry. Do you have to hit it over a ravine or anything I I don't know longtime ago. Yeah you've played a long time ago <hes> so that's Thursday of Oh see week and by the way I think we're giving away these these boxes all week. <hes> law are narrow see week regime away the shirts but the we signed these boxes right so we gotta be giving them to somebody. We don't want Mason's autograph way where we gotta give them to somebody. Stephen hasn't signed dis yet. I don't think he's coming out for oh. See Neither Sodano Sodano China Sodano coming for half of the week. Oh is that right. He's coming for the first part of it. Where's and then you let end of us eweek reunion of Thompson and Trudell no I George does at least Monday Tuesday maybe many Tuesday Wednesday and then Thompson Hampson trudell doing the the last few shows wow so that'll be fun for the old time signature rides again now? Thank you Janice. Thank you jasmine. Those are excellent excellent gifts all right so nineteen eighty thirty nine years ago today. We'll significant sports day. Where were you in life in junior colonel mar high school okay and I would have been a freshman at Mommy Highschool okay? That's it's when this came out. Can I ask you something sure thing shoot Timmy Danny Danny. You Take Drugs Danny every day. Good Danny this is in Russia Russia. Excuse Betty Danny Sir any stop thinking. Let things happen and the the ball beatable caddyshack came out. What a legendary movie so I was thinking about something? CADDYSHACK is one of the only movies where you can say like you go to anybody you go to Tiger Woods Tiger Woods Right K.. What's the greatest Gulf movie ever? He'll say caddyshack yeah you go to the late Cisco in Ebert back when they were around around. Yes what's the best golf movie ever Caddyshack caddyshack Sir Tin Cup second began to is it encompassed by the way tin. Cup is definitely number two right. Can you say that about any other sport art so in other words. Let's take baseball for example. Some people would say white men can't Yup yeah some people would say hoosiers Hoosiers Lake hoosiers would be my aunt's film critics would say Hoop Dreams Hoop Dreams right documentary okay so let's go. It's good Eichel. Thompson would say the fish and save Pittsburgh right. Let's go to football not same baseball baseball's got baseball is the hardest one football football longest yard the original longest yard the program remember the Titans Program. Remember the titans is is very very remembered. The titans would be vote-getter rudy was great necessary roughness. Oh God replacements Jason Replacement Eh debate yeah. Okay your favorite movie. Wait a minute what I don't want any given Sunday a great fight for that or inch but any like if boxing some people would say rocky <hes> got some Iraqi three none of some people would say a raging bull raging Bull Scher. Some people with Cinderella Man is Grain Romance Greg K. so it depends what sports now the the sport that's impossible. Yup is baseball. Yeah really is tough. There are twenty great baseball movies like if you made the argument for Bull Durham Okay Yeah Field of dreams Yes okay eight. Men Out is great. Yeah okay <hes> the a major league movies are great right right the natural the natural I mean there's too many together although if you if you dial down baseball I think I think most people will say either field of dreams or Bull Durham Durham. I don't know I it's almost like a rohrschack ten. Are you field of dreams guy or are you a bulldozer within change your field of dreams guy. I'm a Bull Durham. What are you greg? I'm a bull Durham derm got yeah yeah and so it but what's fascinating is about caddyshack Jack is that everybody thinks it's the best golf movie of all time yes what's the best sports movie of All Time Best Sports movie of All Time Rocky one best picture rocky did win. Best Picture did raging bull field of dreams nominee for best picture raging bull did not but round other baseball movie moneyball great money balls great money balls nominated for best picture raging bull was nominated for best picture narrow when the Oscar fighting caddyshack could be the greatest move caddyshack falls into that category of movies that every guy loves movies that every like dancing go every everybody loves caddyshack. We quote caddyshack all the time. It's in the same Pantheon Bon chemin good for you right well greg pulled like he could pull couple of caddyshack clips. And how many did you stop at stopped opted nine. You can't decide so many great what else you got in that all right. Let's see what we got in here. I got <hes> I did the hat yesterday but so you know the the fact of had caddyshack that that nobody remembers right. I'll tell you next caddyshack Fan Yeta here all right. Hey I don't have that but okay. Hey if you love football you love the beach you love rum then. This is for you when you hear me don't call now but when. Can you hear me say Aloha Ramle Good Luck and say Mahalo later sometime during the show today caller number seven eight seven seven seven ten E._S._p._N.. you qualify for the Rams flyway trip that includes two tickets rams cowboys August is the seventeenth round trip ere four nights hotel private tour of the rum distillery low of <hes> thanks to our friends at Colo- landing resort at pooh-poohing and co AIDS Colo- rum company company creators of single batch world-class Hawaiian Rum's tastes the Aloha and joy enjoy responsible for low of them. Hey coming up. We're GONNA give away a couple of four packs of tickets for Mason moving. I coming up on August fifth first night of the week Regal Cinemas Garden Grove it is a screening of fast and Furious Presents Hobbs and Shaw starring dwayne Johnson Jason Statham in Idris Elba as the bad guy and we'll do that coming up for okay so on July twenty fifth on this day in one thousand nine hundred eighty caddyshack was released. Yes and <hes> bunch okay so the backstory and caddyshack was it was the same guys who didn't Animal House yes us and they came in and they said house it'd be hit they said what are you guys directed by Jon Landau Herald Ramos Ramos who didn't know what he was doing right. WHO admits he didn't know what he's doing but he they pitched three movies to Orion which is no longer around but Orion was the studio did the they pitch to dark movies and then the story about caddies at a golf course and they said okay do the caddy one game three million dollar budget yup it made one hundred forty one murray and every Bill Murray who had just been okay they first thing we're gonNA make it without a star yep so they got Chevy Chase then they got bill murray who had replaced Chevy Chase on S._N._l.? Right so they her Murray was only there for six days so every scene including this one so all of it every line Murray had improvised while nut not in the script they you just said Yeah just do something and the medicine if you go back and look at the script all that it says for that scene is Carl Carl's sparkler groundskeeper it says Carl cuts off the top of flowers with grass whip right and Murray just took from there you know wrote the movie his brother Brian Doyle Morale and along with Harold Ramos his brother and it was basically autobiographical Brian Doyle Murray was a caddy at a country club outside Chicago so those were all the stories wow Ted Knight was like the pompous members that they used to caddy for and and right now there is a restaurant he murray brothers restaurant in that town of Florida where they filmed it that as a caddyshack theme menu all you do go six Murray brothers others and now they opened a restaurant. You can still go in there and eat there but it for my money might be the most the the best sports movie ever. It's it's the you can watch you. Every time I'm flipping channels incomes great comedies ever made some Rodney Dangerfield just because aw little back about Rodney Dangerfield in this movie he had just kind of broken onto the scene and he felt riding felt that he wasn't getting any respect onset imagine he will no receipt no respect so after sure about he did like three scenes and he he stormed off and he went to Ramos and he said he goes the rooms dead. None of these guys are laughing at my jokes and he said Rodney they can't laugh at your jokes. WCHS were filming we. They can't break character your jokes that they're they're actors right. That's he's like Oh and then he went nuts. So what are you got from dangerfield which was basically he's just doing his act now. Servic Real Estate Mogul and then Ted Knight was perfect was so great Ted Knight was such a funny actor yeah and and but he was great in that role of playing the doofus knowing he was the doofus law that was what he did on the Mary Tyler Moore show to write it was kind of it was kind of Ted Baxter but <hes> but one of the one of the great movies of all time and came out thirty nine years ago today by the way the Gopher in that movie played by a gopher I know but but was not a big part of the movie played by Gopher was the but they just they added it late and they said you don't get up some form of this gopher when Murray trying to play plastics takes and then that got Kenny loggins song and they had the Gopher Day Dance J. Song Right was it do you remember the name of the girl no lacy under all lacy under all niece Lacy Yeah what agree movie yeah and and and to this day like like I did. I did a Q._A.. With Rocco mediate five six years ago Roger done thing and I went is it if if I did a poll P._J.. Golfers Tin Cup of its caddyshack he goes if you find me one person. That doesn't say caddyshack about it yeah. They said if to them caddyshack is is the holy grail and eating a lot of happy Gilmore people which more rain rate Mason. I once did an entire happy Gilmore show. We couldn't get sandler to come in but we got almost everybody else. We Got Carl Weathers Julie Bowen right WHO's now big star on modern family. We we got Chris. We had shooter mcgavin right was it <hes> John McDonnell yeah was really great <hes> he was and we were that's when we were doing the show over on the Fox lot and and we had a ton of fun they were doing on T._v.. And all album came in studio and we just did like the movie had just come out yes and we did we had we probably by the end of the day had six or seven people. That's got the funniest random stuff in the world. We had Bob Barker memory up on the phone on this show. That's right yeah it was really from weathers was great fantastic. I eight seven seven seven ten E._S._P._N.. We're going to give away four pack of tickets speaking of movies to see Hobbs and Shaw which is a fast and furious spinoff. It's part of O._C.. Week Monday night August fit at the Regal cinemas and Garden Grove <hes> John has got a dumb game at Johns dumb game. Turn your turn a dumb giving. I'm ready. I will dumb it up. It's not <hes> Google right like mine was Jessica. You cannot Google my game <hes> eight seven seven seven ten E._S._p._N.. Jump at the phones. We'll give away a four pack of Tickets O._C.. Week I'm so I am so pumped up for O._C.. Week I'm telling you week for Monday. Yeah right around Morales says I need golf lessons but idea actually go is played a course probably right but it'll be funnier if you don't take that's what I said. I said Moore saying the better it is plus. I maybe some sort of golf savant. Maybe I'll just walk out there and I'll be a natural. I'm sure that's exactly what will happen. I I think I'M GONNA turn out to be a golf savant and then rag save that save that yeah and then next stop. I'm GonNa Play Mountain Gate. You'll be ready if you can handle black. I can handle Dude Sam Jackson Sunshine Shift Yep. They'll all be ready. Richard Chef says he told me the Gulf doesn't have to be good just the company does I think he was being nice. We'll see all right. We'll give away. Some Hobson shot tickets next Mason Ireland Ireland E._S._p._N.. L._A. Nine million reasons Mason in Ireland so yeah Mason Movie Night Number One of Oh see week we're giving away tickets for fast and furious presents Hobbs and Sean is Mason movie night. We've done this couple of dinner with Captain Marvel. What was the other one we did Captain Marvel game and now the greatest grossing movie of All Time In game okay so how's this game work work all right? We did a couple of days ago. It's hobbs and shops and Shaw so I'm looking for a word I have a word that starts with an H. as in Hobbs Yup and ends with an S. it is reach each Baz Shah can't so we're GONNA start with Daniel and south central Daniel the word I'm looking for starts with an H. and ends with an S.. Okay got it or God is David or Daniel. David David David Okay okay. I'm sorry David David so starts all right. This word is synonymous with a warning synonymous with a warning. Do you know what it is. I would have no clue bro all right. Go thanks for calling all right great line. No clue bro Joe in Valencia Joe you there Joe Joe going once John Joe. Are you there John John Okay John and Valencia right this screens. GotTa Go Away John in Valencia all right John in L._A.. John in L._A.. China China L. so John L. A.'s GonNa get a shot at okay John on the side of a pack of cigarettes it says smoking can be blank to your health hazardous. That's I'm looking. You're getting John Hang on man and we'll get you to mason movie night which you can't just show up this movie night right. It's not over to the public. You gotTa have passes. I'm excited about this. When you see the commercials everywhere now especially cool Idris Elba's the bad guy yeah and so for those who are talking about intersil but played stringer bell in the wire he's been in everything series called Luther everything he's in? He's been great yep and that's <hes> Regal Cinemas Garden Grove Monday August fifth is part of O._C.. Week and by the way the rest of stuff at O._C.. Week really really cool on that Monday late you we're doing the show live from per se hotel and spa in Huntington beach which is apparently very classy joint. I'm told Yes we've gotten a couple of warnings from that and we're also we're going to be all over the place so we're there one night I know I'm taking listeners bowling <hes> one night Tuesday where at the El Torito and orange and then you're bowling yet. Does it say where Lucky Strike. I think right it lucky strike in orange okay yeah and so we're doing that. Wednesday your take. We're doing the show from the house so that's not opened listeners but then you and key are going to medieval times and evil times where apparently we will be jousting. I'm not exactly sure what that means. My goal is to just get on a horse and ride around. You're actually you don't have to just on a horse. You can just joust without the horse you know. I don't think they allow you on top of a horse. I want to get Idaho get on the Saddle Josh Yeah but if if it's Kiefer's Mason I think Mason can ride the horse better better than key would be able to beat you in the jousting very time. Mason has tried to do anything athletic he's been in. I'm very good on a horse so I'm very good on a horse. I don't think they're actually be live. I won the horsemanship award at <hes> Divine Word Camp when I was in fourth grade and my horsemanship has been great ever since did you ever do that thing where you go over to buy the Hollywood sign and you get on horses and you're right over the hill know by sons during my son right toward tastic it is so cool. It's a unique L._A.. Experience Yeah it really is <hes> I'm good on a horse so and then we see El Torito Yup. Dave and buster's orange is <hes> on Thursday and Friday is a rock and brews in Buena Park. Okay let me I want to ask something about the game last night at Dodger Stadium Okay. Can I do that yeah. Can we pivot on <hes> the angels else after winning. These two games are now two and a half games out of a playoff spot. Should they be buying or selling or neither. I think they should be holding personally. I think they should be holding they have one twelve out of sixteen. <hes> they are within striking striking distance of the wildcard <hes> I would not necessarily go all in villa darting hitching would be what they would probably go after billy APP blur his work so hard to rebuild the farm system. I do not think that they're going to necessarily deal prospects for a run into wildcard right now but they've got a shot so apparently Madison Bumgarner. We don't know if he's if he's on the market. We don't think so we think the giants are going to are going to try and go forth by the way I would trade them. I think a lot I could betrayed. I don't think that I mean for his greatest stories. San Francisco as I do not think San Francisco is going to make the playoffs. I don't either so that in that's a decision for his I._D.. Estimate but apparently one player he really popular player the player who is available and this is surprising because this is a top of the rotation starter is Noah syndergaard yeah how much you wanted to give like the Yankees really want him. Oh sure and they're asking for Gleyber Torres and they won't give him up well so but if like would you give up your the angels of the well the dodgers starters angels. Would you give pointing your top three prospects for Noah syndergaard I probably would I probably would to here's the thing if you're looking at Noah syndergaard and he's not he's not the guy that we think he is right. He's not a he is a top of the rotation starter but he's not spectacular this year is the Best Gardner on that stabbed runs unbelievable but here's the thing if you're an opposing team you're looking at Noah syndergaard and you're saying <hes> I think we know how to fix his mechanics right. I think we know what he's not getting right right now. By the way the same goes for the dodgers I was listening to buster this morning and Buster thinks that Edwin Diaz of the mets would be great match for the dodgers right hander rate right hander lights out can be lights out closer last year he was. He's not having a good year but as he looks at him he thinks the dodgers are probably we look at him saying we know how to fix that we he throws the ball ninety seven miles an hour. His fastball velocity is just as good as it was last year we think we know how to fix that and that would make an and they think that the mets would be a good trading partner for the dodge. Apparently the mets have this. They have an agent Brody van wag what a mess he's and apparently though he's put the word out that there's only three players off limits degrom Alonzo and McNeil there who are just hitters and Jacob degrom so syndergaard Syndergaard is here's the thing he's twenty six and he's under team can throw a control through twenty twenty one so he's under team control for two more years so if you think you're one of those teams that could fix this mechanics because as as you said he said some injury issues you're getting a pretty good workable contract. The question is I think it would take a hall to get him like that. Type Guy if the dodgers wanted to go after that they'd have to give up one one or perhaps two of their top-five prospect Noah syndergaard seven five four thirty-three e._R._A.. He does not make sense at all for the Niagara the dodgers of the they've got the best starting pitching in the league. I don't think there's any reason angels are more or of a team that would look at syndergaard. The angels would banning the thing you gotta remember. There's one trade deadline and it's next Wednesday that you can't trade for anybody. Let's say it happens when we're on the air. Yeah happens next Wednesday at one o'clock. Hey is Edwin windy as a fly ball pitcher. I don't know the answer because if he is I believe I believe he is. I'm not positive about it. Fly Ball so good guests for you. I'm we've seen you've seen him pitch before so I just he usually gets the ball in the air but but that's the type of guy that the dodgers don't want right now. They're looking for sinker. Bali wanted low guys that keep the ball on the ground especially with how juice the ball is and ball's going out of the yard really really easily especially but he's really more of a strike up pitcher like last house is how how is how is he against left-handers because that's what I know he's right handed house. He left handers. I don't have the splits in front. I don't know here's the thing last year he was at a buck ninety six E._R._A.. With one hundred twenty four strikeouts in just in seventy three innings a fifteen strikeout per nine rate so he's really strikeout pitcher more than he has anything. He's better against lefties than he is against righties. He has a seven hundred against him whereas against righties he has a better than forty-nine. Yes so he's a better again. He's definitely better go by the way this year is. strikeout rate is just as good. He's got a fourteen <hes> strikeout rate per nine so he is he is a can be a lightsout guy. The stuff is electric. His fastball is exactly where it was last last year ninety three miles in ninety seven miles an hour and he could be a guy that makes sense for the dodge interesting footnote about him and thank you to John who just tweeted me this Jesse. No in today's mets game D has got hit in the foot by line drive and had to come out of the game.

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Mason and Ireland (HR 1)

Mason & Ireland

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Mason and Ireland (HR 1)

"Hey big mid cycle money win for me last night thirty five five hundred over here thousand for me minus twenty five hundred for you and we actually begin this show with the dispute that occurred in that game yeah now by the way all of our mythical money coverage is brought to you by the Bicycle Hotel and casino. We'll get total from Greg coming up here but yeah you are inching closer to me yeah. It's still I don't know. I don't think I'm within ten grand but I'm getting close betting all all summer long. Well you know the guy who deserves harsh. Criticism is Bergman. He you talk about sitting on a lead. You haven't made a bet in like three months months. I refuse to bet on my teams. I've always have and always will totals now when we include John's win and my loss last night including your loss now mason you're got seventy two five and John is creeping back up at Sixty K. and I'm still at one thirty nine so I'm just below when I get within ten grand. I think that's when you hear my footsteps Jimmy Twenty five hundred on the dodgers minus a running a half tonight or use your betting orientation coors field. I wonder if he's ever had a start to broadly early as probably don't take a start probably hardly started last year he did last year. We started a few but he started like seven or eight games. I doubt he's had a start start at <hes> of course I thought they were. GonNa Call Up. Tony did and yet they didn't activate him like he was in Bill Plunkett reporting. He was in the clubhouse yesterday in Colorado but I getting traded what's that I think he's being traded to move them. No I'm glad you brought that up because the trade deadline ladies and Gentlemen Boys and girls is now twenty five five hours away twenty five hours away. Where's our reliever. That's what I WANNA know by the way listed. Nobody's there's no trades have been out today. The cubs just got some guy from Toronto. Nothing yeah I mean there are some there are some deals going around. The brewers got Jordan lions from the pirates. <hes> the the Philly's got Jason Vargas from the mats so there are some deals that are happening. I listened to buster only with Bob Nightingale this morning on busters podcast. Is this John <hes> he. He was actually a great guy. He's a fan talks in a unique sing song voice he they both think there will be a rash of trades at the deadline. That's what I'm talking about now. Here's a dozen love. Arash Arash is good so so <hes> you know the the dodgers apparently they are looking at Felipe Vasquez but John. This is an interesting question for you. Would you try straight up cat. This is this is. You've got to make a decision. <hes> would you trade. Gavin locks for Felipe Vasquez well. I've been reading up more on Gavin Lux and he if you were ranking the dodger prospects would be number one number one. I think I've come around Bergman's position on this but but I would trade any of the other guys I would trade destined. May I would trade keyboard ruis or I would trade will smith believe it or not. I would not rule Smith table. Why Not Trade Will Smith and bring up Ruis. Why don't think Ruis isn't hitting the way Smith is right now. Smith is I mean. He's the everyday catcher you're trading. Your everyday. CATCHER will smile. You talked to people that know more than I do. If we're we could catch now he's generally regarded as their top catching price only twenty or twenty one. I think he's twenty years old. He has a probably a year to away so maybe that's not the maybe we'll switch not to play but I don't think mace that you need to give up Gavin Lecture Wilson to get fully pay Vasquez in other words words if they like if I'm the pirates and you're giving me destined. May that's better than Philippi Vasquez Dustin. May Hey projects out as a starter and he's younger and I don't think the pirates are contending this year or next year. I think that they've got an opportunity here if if they can get a top five or in this case atop three prospect from from an organization like the dodgers. I think it's a trade that would be good for both sides. You know I think I've have come around to. I would not trade any of the big four. You might not need to member show. Mace Machado went for like a Pu Pu platter. He went for a a Lotta guys but none of them in the top five yes so I think you may be able to get away with that and I say by the way the longer this drags out like we're sitting here at noon on Tuesday. The trade deadline headline is one o'clock tomorrow. The longer this trades out the better it is for the dodgers because that means if they already had an offer to get a number one prospect suspect from another team they would've taken it. Yeah I think at this moment. I'm guessing that Felipe Vasquez is not going to be traded at all well. I think you could say that about Brad hand. You could say no doubt about Madison Bumgarner. The Guy Is Edwin D. S. yeah the guy from the mets. Edwin de as is probably the guy he had. I think it fifty four saved last year for the mariners by the way this is a terrible situation for the mets. They gave up really good prospects. <hes> to the the Seattle Mariners for Edwin D Az and they took on Robbie canot salary right now they gave up those prospects and they're looking to move Edwin Diaz. The as Brodie van wagon and is a disaster as a G._M.. For the mets just an absolute disaster well the one thing he may have done right is he didn't give up even top twenty five prospect for Marcus Stroman. He was able to get stroman without really giving up the farm and Stroman gives him. Noah syndergaard insurance but I heard the Jeff Passan on sportscenter this morning say that he's now hearing syndergaard might not be traded that that the market for him is not what the mets thought it would be and they're not getting <hes> potentially the offers they want and you know here's one of the interesting things this and that's what the next twenty fires will be is who blinks. This is what why relievers at are are at a premium. I and this is why the dodgers knee dad bullpen help. Do you realize that last year fifty percent of all innings thrown in the off season in the the playoffs were by relievers starters. Only through half of the innings sounds about right layoffs last year. I think the dodgers had less than five complete games last year yeah but I mean I'm talking and here's the other thing if a pitcher faces a hitter for a third time last year in the postseason. Oh season. They hid her had an P._S.. Of a thousand the average hitter had a thousand when facing starting pitcher for the third time last cheer so the idea of Star has been so devalued that the match for example could get Marcus Stroman for not serious prospects prospects just solid decent press writes two of them number six and seven their organization and not in the top one fifty so <hes> starting pitching has really we been devalued that means the price for relievers has gone way way up so tomorrow's be sure you're listening tomorrow. 'cause we're basically a trade <music> deadline. Show yes on noon tomorrow. At this time tomorrow is when stuff is going to start happening if it doesn't already happened in the morning because the dodgers are going to get some reliever the Internet who they're getting but they're getting somebody and I think they can do it without giving up those four guys the the the big four but I would give up just in May. They are one of the catches. There's a revolution for you well. The thing is interesting I might do you guys are like steadfast against it. I think he's the starting second baseman next year <hes> yeah but I've seen so many minor leaguers. Did you see somebody senator shirt. Yesterday that said <hes> prospects are good parades. Oh yeah yeah no yeah I I. I know the idea and you know there are people that wanted to trade cody bellinger and cory seager and Walker Bueller. All those names came back Peterson the years John Anderson. All those names ames came up as hey. Let's move these guys for Cole Hamels. Let's move these guys and but if you think about it if they would've traded Jack Petersen for Justin Justin verlander the dodgers would have won that deal you know I think that was more a financial savvy. I think that was more financial constraints than anything else. I don't think it was a matter of matching prospects. The Astros claimed them actually the nitrate form created by the way that in August waiver deadline and the way even that trade was no. They didn't give any of their top five prospects they his. Detroit wanted to get out of the contract yeah right so. I wonder if there'll be somebody like that. This time round like somebody that they just garnered. They're still talk that the giants could move bumgarner even though they're just two and a half out of the wildcard guard far that's a very sharkey foreign Zaidi Andrew Friedman kind of move <hes> it would not get out from under a contract like I could see grinky moving for not not a lot just to get out from under out from under the number absolutely syndergaards different because he's under a cost controlled contra by that we fully Vasquez under are Cost Control Contra Edwin D as under which is why these guys are even more dodge. Ary Those two guys then you've got them for more than just this. This year right as you know if you listen to the show I am not a huge fan of Jack. Peterson's Mason has been defending him forever. We will switch roles. Yes curiously neck. I can't wait to hear what you're going to say about that. Oh I'm ready bottom of the hour. We're giving away four pack of tickets to Mason Movie Night Various Arias present presents hobbs and it is coming up Monday night regal free concession ours and grow visit free concession. I Dunno normally is your movie nights normally are I don't want to guarantee not this. One is really pay nineteen dollars for popcorn. I'm not sure I think I need to get on that would make a phone call in the in the past they have been frequency. I believe it's just going in and sitting and seeing the movie for free. It's just not something in sitting watching the movie tickets. I bought the other day. We're like nineteen bucks. That's crazy the price of movie tickets and we're giving four packs the F eighty bucks yeah so <hes> Oh centered kicking kicking the you-know-what on on Monday by the way are Mason movie night brought to you by Jacob from Ronnie only named trust when winning is a must twenty four hours a day eight four four twenty four Jacob Jacob Visit Call Jacob Dot Com Mason Ireland E._s._p._N.. L._A.. Hey by the way make sure to join US during O._C.. Week next week at any of our live promotes for your chance to win and Anthony Davis Number Three Jersey and more got to be present to win for a complete list of all our E._S._p._N.. O._C. Live remotes follow follow us on twitter instagram and facebook at E._S._p._N.. Los Angeles all right so last night. The dodgers lost they were losing six to nothing in the eighth inning Yup and and Will Smith was on third and Jack Petersen was at the plate and here is what this place sounded like from Tim never to balls two strikes account. Now the pitch to the Peterson swings hits the Ground Ball. I get a run as murphy run steps on the bag. Peterson didn't even run the first one a few steps stop turn around throughout the run in with a ground ball out and Dave Roberts immediately pulled Jack Petersen <hes> and I don't have with what Robert set great. Did you not get Robertson Peterson Peterson. I don't have Roberts Scott Peterson. I can get Roberts to yeah. This is what Jock Peterson had had to say. After the game I think that <hes> yeah it was unprofessional and let the emotions get the best of me and I need to <hes>. I'm better than that most trusted today for the there's no single anything. It's a combination of things but yeah so we don't have with Dave Roberts said John You want a to defend jock Peter I do and here's why I think what Dave Roberts did. I I understand why did it Petersen's a young player. The dodgers had gotten their butts kicked twice. They had lost the day before in Washington and at one point they were down eleven to one in this game. They were down six to nothing and even tim never when he's calling the game notice that Peterson only ran a few steps and then stopped if you watch this play and I've watched it's this place several times yes. The ball is in the glove of the first Baseman who did not need who didn't have to move. He just hit it right to him in one point six seconds right. It's in his glove. Now Peterson's job right there is number one. He's trying to get a hit the rally going because they're down sixty nothing but if he's not he's trying to get the run home. He's trying to get will smith home so any ground ball to the right side is helpful in one point six seconds. It's in the first basements glove he's got it and then he walks over to the base and steps on it. Peterson did his job and then after the game everybody's killing him. I understand why Roberts did did it but it had he run had peterson run. He would have been running for three to four seconds when he was already I right. I don't know how you can defend this. I mean this is like Manny Machado. I'm not <hes> Johnny Hustle. My Cup of tea heavy hit a line drive and the first baseman cottage. Do you want him to run that. That's an out right. This was an out. He hit a ground ball writing to his glove know what can happen. You don't know what can happen on a play. A first baseman can drop the ball club in one point six seconds yeah he can. He can still lose the ball he can sow. WHO's the baseball how it's in his club? He's he makes a mistake like why's make purpose stakes. He drops the ball ball magic. He's going to open his glove and it's GonNa fall. I don't know how you can defend a lack of hustle. I don't know how you don't think it was you run. Through first base period you run on through I pay even if even if he spoke he stepped on the base at the three second Mark Peterson if he's sprinting down the line can't get their uh-huh carry seconds went a third of the way down the line right a third of the way down the line I'm sorry and after that is completely unacceptable and by the way don't chalk it up to he's a young player. He is now in his sixth year. He is twenty-seven years. What I'm saying is had that been Machado? Had that been Justin Turner Roberts wouldn't have pull them. No I completely disagree he absolutely would have I mean Machado those guys. Those guys wouldn't have done it. China would identity Machado uh-huh Machado would have been pulled. No wait about this year ever but one time. I can't think of an instance where I mean I know he said that I can't I can sewer fifty just basically walk. I no way that that can be defended Greg. What do you think I'm on Mason insight on this? This is something that cody bellinger was pulled from game. WHO's either last year or the year before become it doesn't matter the difference between this dodger thirteen and every other dodger team every other team in the League really is that they play every single second of every single game at full force? It doesn't matter if they're up by ten down by ten they play to the best of their ability. Their effort is always at the top level and to not run out the out that ball it doesn't matter it doesn't Matt was in the glove run. I pay you play until the whistle the same type of thing you play until it's done so you've run. There was a play towards the end of Kobe's career where he threw it off the back of the backboard all right yeah you just wasn't concentrating and he threw it off the back of the backboard. You say Byron Scott should've pulled him well. He six did explain exactly what you mean. He's inbounding the ball right. Scores Kobe takes it out of the thing throws the ball in hits the back of the backboard turn well. That's not that's a mistake right right. That's that's different than a lack of hustle but it's like a concentration. It's it's a it's never did it any other time in his career and is different from a lack of hustle. A lack of hustle is unacceptable a lack of hustle that is one thing you're paid for your aid for to play the game the right way and he's not playing the game the right way and that's why Roberts pulled him thinking shadow anybody did that all the time and he never pulled them and by the way Machado got three hundred million dollars bryce Harper does this all the time not all the time Bryce Harper. Does this it just because guys make a lot of money doesn't make it right why I'm not saying it's right and I know why Roberts did it but I don't think we should be killing. Jack Petersen absolutely only think we should be killing John Wall those other guys is an exam. Why because those guys just while they're making a lot of money they don't win? They don't they haven't done anything. That's winning at any sense this. This team is built to win in this way play for basically spent his whole career in the playoffs. How is he not winning Bryce Harper Yeah? He lives in the first round. He hasn't been alright I every year but he did. I don waning because they're not winning. They're not getting to five teams. Make the playoffs any tiny choice of the manager I mean I I think if you look first of all Jock Peterson is not Bryce Harper. Jock Peterson is not Manny Machado Iraq jock Peterson and is he was they would manny Ramirez used to do this all the time and they never started with bellinger right but I'm just saying that's what he's a young these young players and he's trying to set an example for the other young. That's that's exactly right. He's trying to set example for the other this. What he wants is guys to run to first base this way? It's different because it's like all right so guy steps on first she wanted to run through the through the base. Even if he's out of the base all the way up one hundred percent by the way Machado barely jog he ah by Iran. If you look at it Peterson he won a third of the way down the baseline. He actually quit well before then he quit almost the moment. The ball was hit hit. He turned his by the time the first baseman was actually touching the back. Jock Peterson was faced around and was walking towards the Doug. No I'm looking at a bunch of times. He's holding building is bad and he he's he starts and then the guy steps on first base. He just turns around. He's like okay. I got the run home. I'm done yeah completely unacceptable unacceptable from any any player. I think that I'll be surprised if Peterson's not in the lineup tonight depends if they're facing a right hander sure yeah I mean facing a lefty. I don't know who they're facing tonight. If they're facing a left he won't play John has made all deceit. Kyle Freeland who is right handed is free one right right handed. I'll look it up but I appreciate it. <hes> the and it's in course field so I would think you'd want Peterson's And by the way I run the dodgers scored tonight and the point was by the way that doesn't matter they were down six to one in its course field you can absolutely rally Horsfield <hes> but <hes> for me. He already embarrassed jock by pulling him from the game. That was the point that was the punitive action against John Peterson. You're out <unk> out. You're going to the bench right. He wouldn't and I don't think Peterson will do it again. Yeah he wouldn't do it to Justin Turner he we didn't do it to Machado at all last to cody bellinger villagers lead same ages Peterson by the way and I I still have trouble thinking of the exact example mean. Maybe you can cite the exact example of where Manny Machado did it. I'll I'll turn it around you. Show me where Machado hustled down generally runs the first base here to further moments where he doesn't don't but I can't think of an exact instance where he didn't <hes> all right. Let me work on that because I think what you'll find is that Manny Machado more times nine times out of ten does not run hard. He just does nine times out of ten on a ground ball. He does not by the way he admitted it. That's he didn't know that he said I'm not totally you're saying ninety percent of the time he jogs to Fernando Machado does not as our first sort of ninety percent of the time I would say doesn't sprint doesn't wasn't too. I accept that as fact we'll see percent of the let say you say there's there's no examples of Manny Machado or no instances that I I can think of that's different from he never did it. There are no instances than I can think of with Manny Machado. I remember an instance where he didn't go first to third. I do remember that where he didn't go first to third on a on a single where he could have gone a single to right but I cannot think of an instance where he didn't getting run to first base I cannot think of I can't think of ninety percent of the time jocks he does not run to first base drugs and he'd ninety percent yeah I I went greg. What do you think about Machado running to? I ninety percent of the time I mean he jocks not sprints. I don't watch enough of his games to see exactly house especially now he's in San Diego but when he was with the dodgers he okay it was nice for the most part he did. I just literally googled Manny Machado running to first base. Watch this all right. This is Machado. It depends on the play. Literally jogging hits the ball off the wall. Look at him. He's practically walking. He gets into a single off the wall. Well that's not that's not unusual. Cody bellinger gets to first base that this is that unusual look it up five six winning. He's not he's not he's jogging. He thought it was a home run a desperate you say yeah that's what cody does all the time but what is the difference between missed jogging what he didn't what Peterson did last night. It was a home run. He's almost passing passing thought he was out yeah not acceptable so that's acceptable. Peterson is it I mean that's a that's a base running mistake. Still I still don't agree that ninety ninety percent of the time I mean look at him. He's not even when he's walking Machado and Harper. We think paid too much these walking to first base. You don't make I oh you don't make the third out at second base. He's he's wondering executive as well. If you would have been spreading you would have been at second base. I don't know that Google Manny Amy Machado Hustle and that came up. I know Manny Machado has acknowledged that here's the thing Jack Peterson is a platoon player. Jock like Peterson is a part time player for a part time player. A guy who can't hit lefties to not hustle. The first base is absolutely unacceptable. Dave Roberts did the right thing. There's a reason why Jock Petersen apologize so precisely he hears he knew he was right. He wouldn't apologize. Here's Andrew Friedman at this year's the G._M.. Meetings here in Baltimore three weeks before we traded for him. It's not like it's a secret. He doesn't Hustle. I think it's never a fun thing to watch but I do think it's important to dig further into that and there are times when guys just despise Manny Machado Thrice. We couldn't wait for him to get out of town. We did not want him to come back. Because how how many times do we joke about Manny Machado not John we killed Manny Machado and my point right Steve Roberts never did what he did last night to Peterson to compare Jock Peterson to Manny Machado why not because Greg said it's all about every player hustling all the years. There's no comparison the ship them out of town. We mocked him relentlessly for saying he's not Johnny Hustle. We mocked him. Relentlessly for saying hustling is not his game. It's not his cup of tea. Believe you're saying don't kill Jack. Petersen we crushed Manny Machado for this. We crush them through and in land. My argument is Dave. Roberts never did what he did to try white man. What's it if Peterson is never hit forty home runs? He's never hit Lewis in Steve macy's world. You can do it if he had already home runs. Get Away with it now. You'll get shipped out of town. Okay you will not be back right you will not there will make no effort to sign you we will not you will kill you relentlessly for this but that doesn't mean it's Okay Yep John. Dave Roberts did the right thing by pulling Jack Petersen on the spot. Jack Petersen did the right thing by apologizing profusely he no. He knows it was wrong. He knows it's disrespectful to the game itself not to hustle and by the way in the N._B._A.. If there was a guy that didn't hustle if there was a particularly a role player that didn't hustle you would be killing him so but here's the bar I would be killing the but the point is this a different rules for different guys. Oh this is a bullet into you know but I'm saying there you really don't. There's different different guy now you admit he wouldn't have I've done it to Turner and by the way Greg does not on the dodgers. Yeah okay wait so what last year was shot. It was an exception to this. I know this. Is this year this year right not one player. I don't care if it's cody bellinger unclear if Justin Turner if they don't run to first base they are being pulled from the game is a standard yet that just just X._M.. Patriots in Football Sanders Win Okay just a year ago. The Standard didn't exist a did that's why I called him. Belgium's they whatever happened with Manny Machado in the past was wrong and right they didn't want to do that this. He's gone because of it. He is not a dodger because he doesn't fit the state days not because they didn't want to give them three hundred dollars youth you you don't understand that there are different rules for different play. Oh I understand that. Are you really that you guys don't admit it you guys are saying that if turned out to be men and he would absolutely be absolutely pulled from the game by the way and here's the other thing Justin Turner would never do it. Justin Turner would never manage. I yes this Manny Machado. Did it all the time he acknowledges he said and that's why we crush them. That's why we're crushing Jock Petersen so it's okay with you. Dave Roberts didn't bench Machado but he benches everybody else again. There are different rules for different player K but there's all trying to get a player on that team team this year that would stop one third of the way down the first baseline after hitting an Infield CINCPAC there was yes. Yes okay yeah. Peres camera hit forty five home runs. I rest my case Jock. Dave Roberts pulled him pulled him on the spot he would pull any team on that roster on the spot any any player on that roster on the spot and by the way and that's why Jack Petersen apologized so profusely. He knows he was wrong. He knows it doesn't fit the culture of this team right but it's so the culture's changed from year ago of course this is the best team in thirty years last year. Manny Machado was was brought in as a EH as a mercenary to try to push the team over the top and by the way they knew what they were getting they traded for a guy who doesn't always hustle yeah and they traded for those that was okay. That was yeah it would they suffer they suffered through that with Manny Machado and you're saying we're killing Jack Petersen we. He crushed manny Machado for this Dave Robinson Bench so many times we crush manny but your your point was. I don't understand why we're killing Jack. Petersen were labeling and we got because he didn't hustle significant. What matters is Dave? Roberts yanked him never thanked him and he never gained any he player. That never yanked Machado ever. Not One time didn't bench you. Why are you going backwards in town because I'm using culture? Javer culture is different is different this culture there's a cohesiveness to this culture and and no dodger into sage sage to suggest J._T.. Would not hustle the first base they would if you would that is his game. His game is I was a scrappy middle infielder with the mets who finally broke through with the dodgers and there's no way I'm not hustling to first base. Jock Petersen made a huge mistake last night and that's why Dave Roberts pulled him on the spot. I think he is I if you look at the play. I think that we're making them out of a molehill but no so I mean how you defend not hustling when the dodgers did last year with defendant. Nobody defended him right But I don't I don't understand how anybody we didn't offend it with Manny Machado. How can we defend it with John? Peterson is Dave Roberts by letting him do it. Defending it look Manny Machado was brought in. They knew he was not going. They knew that was a game that was acceptable so you can't yes because they knew going in and again. I don't think Dave Roberts did the wrong thing. No Dave Roberts yanked him exactly right then you don't hustle you get yanked right. That's the way things role in twenty nine hundred in two thousand nineteen yeah and last year Manny Machado was the exception exception and they knew what they were getting when they signed with them and that's why he's not here anymore. And that's why we crush them. Throughout the playoffs last year there were there were moments where he did not hustle in. Manny Machado was challenged on that and how many times we still remember to this day. I'm not Johnny Hustle. It's not my cup of tea. Yep Not acceptable. That's why he's gone. That's why he was not a beloved player when he was here right any Machado. You couldn't wait to get rid of the Guy Right. Manny Ramirez was and he nestle. I mean again I I don't know Oh exactly who hustled or instances where guys hustled or did not hostile and by the way that's a different era. That's the Frank mccord years. That's the that's the Frank mccord years. That was all pre Dave Roberts right so yeah I just. I don't know how you can defend not hustling. I don't think he was that guilty. I not hundred percent guilty did not run to first base didn't even didn't even jog to first base you run through the line period okay. That's why she asked all right. Okay all right coming up next four pack of tickets to Monday Nights Mason movie night it is Hobbs and Shaw simple simple game. We did it yesterday rock or not rock E._S._P._N.. L._A.. What is going on? 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Do not intend take a step back sources sources say team is asking for Major League or Major League ready pieces for Syndergaard even from clubs with top farm systems so you know there was once a day where the dodgers were in on syndergaard according to Rosenthal that means they would want someone off the major league roster so you figured somebody like Aureus or they. They wouldn't give up Buehler who else who else on the dodgers roster unless they wanted to an everyday player somebody like I do go or Peterson. It'd be somebody WHO's AIDS starts with a two or if they'd be aureus everyday player or starter will they want major major league talent. So what about stripling if you're getting Noah syndergaard you could afford to move stripling it gets it done. I think they'd want order. Yes don't you knew that not even for syndergaard no. I don't think they're trade. Plywood costs controlled unbelievable stuff was syndergaard Berkoff controlled for two more years two more years but syndergaards not having a good year right but he throws a hundred miles an hour and you would you would give get plenty of time to see if if you could get him back to form. Isn't it weird that the mets what was it just three years ago when they knocked the dodgers out of the playoffs they had all those young flame throwers member they had Matt Harvey Degrom Syndergaard and the Left handed guy from Long Island Stephen Matt Matt Yeah those four guys pitching that series against the dodgers so now that they're treating Matt Harvey's Gone Trading Syndergaard yeah wow we'll see if they actually if I was the mets I would not trade syndergaard <unk>. I've got the makings of a really good rotation for next year. If I've got marcus stroman Noah syndergaard and Jake degrom John Hayman have heard padres draze made offer of multiple major league players for syndergaard no evidence the sides are close. However padres are an interesting getting play? The padres are an interesting play and that's not a move for just this year. That's a move for next year and beyond John Rope says says Mason the radio equivalent of not hustling to first and it's unacceptable. It is unacceptable automoible. Look I apologize. I just got this text from beetle. Rock is the star of Central Intelligence. y'All eft up just thought <hes> the love y'All was yelling on my run so they will first of all beats. Thank you for listening on your run and second of all you have to vet your games through through Bergman I do. I'M GONNA Bergman. He needs to defect when you write for a big magazine. You get your story fact checking editor yeah. That's that's what I mean is. He needs needs to fact. 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We're going to do the over under game by way previewing the National League But I there's a little bit of news that I think we ought to talk about There is a a lot of movement in Major League Baseball. The past couple of days in terms of Response to the corona virus pandemic Down HERE IN ARIZONA. Right now whereas of to say Major League Baseball has closed clubhouses to the press The governor of Washington has He has decreed decreed like he's dead. King these guys very large large Crowd gatherings Which somewhat surprisingly to me includes Seattle Mariners. Games are are off the table for the foreseeable future. They are moving at the very least moving. Their opening weekend series You know as much as I just made a joke about. This is an incredibly serious issue that I think it's it stretches so far beyond sports that I think the sports apparatus as such as little unprepared for for how to deal with it. I think our Major League Baseball. Well what what is? What does this look like to someone? Who's WHO's not In the process of negotiating clubhouse act or negotiating player access at this moment in airports and confined spaces last week. We both picked to find time to travel. But I think there's been kind of a distance to the response of the sports world in general and baseball specifically and maybe it's not surprising given the money that's at stake unfortunately and also just given the lack of precedent and the scale of this and just the way sports works the logistical issues. And all that. But for a while there I think teams were just trying to get their toe into preparedness and changing autograph policies and media policies. And I'm not saying don't do that. But that always felt like whistling past the graveyard a little bit and just hoping that things wouldn't get worse when all indications are that it very likely will and so. I think we're now finally at the point where it's pretty impossible to pretend that this is not going to be disruptive to the sports world and to baseball as it has been to the world at large and so. I would be somewhat surprised at this point if the season start is not postponed or if we don't see a lot of alternate locations even that doesn't seem like a perfect location. I mean that seems like a terrible idea that you're moving. People from infected areas to non infected areas in sofas even exists so exactly right and the Green Baseball Organization and the Nippon Professional Baseball Korea and Japan have both postponed the start at their season. They've had empty crowds throughout spring training. And of course they were hit harder and earlier than we were here. So maybe it's understandable but that always seems sort of like a bellwether. I mean when I saw that it was. Oh this is what's going to happen here. It's almost inevitable and I think there was a lot of denial about that so now. I think that denial is receding. And we're probably going to start to see some movement and announcement soon. Yeah I think there's a natural American tendency and I don't say that I'd say that being guilty of it myself to think that this can't happen here and it I just sort of you know paying attention to what's been happening In Asia and in Italy in particular and this was sort of in the very back of my mind when I came down here. And it's just really in the seven past seventy two hours where we've seen Alive these restrictions on large crowds in the United States. Some of the stuff. That's happened in Italy like they've essentially to put the country on lockdown and stuff like you know we we've never seen a baseball season or game or like a like a weeks long disruption for for something like this for any kind of real world Event or tragedy and L. I just assumed that the sport was gonNA soldier through until like. We're seeing a lot of big. Cycling races are being canceled or postponed in in Italy. Received the impact. This has happened on formula wanted. Now it's it. Oh It's a very. It's very real now And just you being in the not the clubhouse by but at pre-game media availability Just how much that's changed. His is really made the sink in So I'm I'm with you. I think that I'll say this. There's been a lot of. I think this is a secondary issue in terms of Baseball writers being worried about getting clubhouse access back. I think that that's a good thing to keep in the in the back of everybody's mind but I think that's a a struggle for you know. That's that's something that's something we're going to have to deal with after this blows over And in the meantime just the couple of the rockies and the as the two teams up in a camp with with the clothes club has been been pretty good about getting access so it's It's real now in a way that it was an I'm with you I. It would shock me if we don't get some kind of of cancel you know at this point. I think it'd be irresponsible tab kind of change to the schedule. It's definitely a a substantial possibility that we could feel foolish in a couple of weeks Win The the if the baseball season we lose a chunk of it like lose a couple of weeks Seton Just because he can't cognate like this so either spots who is is the word I was going to use it. It's a game. We all want it to go on. Obviously and baseball has a history of going on during tragedies during World Wars and they can be a force that brings people together during times of hardship. But this is a little different in that bringing people together is exactly what you don't want to do during a pandemic and so I think it makes sense to err on the side of caution and I don't know if it is just inertia or profit seeking or macho image of sports and virile men playing field and not wanting to take a day off or admit when they're hurt or that sort of thing but obviously it's one thing to protect the players and it's another thing to protect your fans and your audience and there are many more of them than there are the players so they really have to be the priority at this point so I do think that we will start to see some movement there. I will just say to try to end on a slightly later. Not at the end of this. Doom and gloom introduction. I am glad that before the clubhouse was closed. You got to meet your idol. That was that was exactly where I was going. This is the second big piece. We need to talk about After years of the Lance Lynn bid. I actually interviewed him in Texas Rangers. Camp the very last. Mlb clubhouse media session before they close it out. I've got a couple of pieces coming out next week that he was relevant voice on Us JUST DELIGHTFUL. That lovely is great beard Comforting large physical presence. You know it's certainly bad for public. Health perspective to to hug landslide now But you know I keep your distance because you told us that you had seen landslide just hours. Before I saw the announcement that clubhouses were closed. And at least nine were into. What did Michael do did he do? Something inappropriate inland so presence. So here's what I'll say. I did not as you as you suggested what I told you about this the other day. Rub beards with him. We have like a very you know your standard player at his locker. Interaction is just doing a couple of feet away and held by recorder up in his face and asked him questions and he answered. And you know we went on our way Yes this was before the the six feet quarantine zone. I think like there's not like there aren't like people going around with tape measures but I think it's it there's a it. This is may be aware of of the amount of hand shaking That that takes place in your basic like player team media interaction and So I've exchanged elbow bumps with a couple couple players since the since the directive went into effect But yeah it's out how to introduce yourself to a player in a clubhouse. His always feels route kind of interaction but particularly at a time like this. But I'm happy for you. I'm glad we don't all get to meet our heroes and sometimes our heroes let us down. So I'm glad Lance Lynn did not yeah he's He's either bid in different division different league or do we just had run into each other toll that point. I will say if if he's aware of the stuff I've been writing about it a re writing about him. He did a good job of acting. Normal I'm sure he was just as excited as you were. He was just trying to keep it inside. Or if there is a little twinkle in his eye I would be lying if I said Said otherwise all right. Let's get to the over unders. Now that we've got those two important pieces of news out of the white like I said this is the Caesar's Palace sportsbook. I imagine these will change at some point but I think this is just a good baseline to go off of let's go from East West Because as we all know the West Coast doesn't matter at all everybody lives on the East Coast where the center of American culture is so Let's start with the Nationally Yeast. The braves had the highest over under total in that division at ninety the defending champions They've made a couple of dishes in the off. Season with Cole Hamels. Who's currently on the aisle and or probably we'll we'll be on the. I'll start season Marsala in a lot of promising young players. You have over or under there. I think I'm going to take over here. I'm not going to try to get cute and take under on everything on the assumption that some games will get cancelled so if that has all right because what we can if Mrs One hundred twenty game season or something these tastes are all Mullah Boyd. Yes right so this is kind of tough because the top two teams in the division last year both lost their superstar third baseman over the winter and didn't really directly replace them which seems like a serious concern for both of them. But I think what the brave's I'm GonNa go over and with the nationals. Honestly I'm kind of tempted to go under at eighty eight point five. I think there's some vulnerability there and it's easy to remember them as this sort of post may whatever. It was the magic date last year when they became the best even baseball when they were healthy and guys came back but they did still play those games before the case came back and then he ran Dodi missing. Many of those games was one of the problems and he's GonNa Miss. Every nationals game this year so I don't think you can completely write it off and say they're the team that they were after the slow start. The slow start counts too. Yeah I just. Based on on those two teams braves it ninety NAT said eighty. Five eighty eight and a half. I go the opposite way. Actually I think the Bray I'd take the under on the braves the over on the nationals. I think both of those the point about missing Donaldson and Rangoon. is important. I think both teams are fairly well equipped to whether that based on their internal options and they both Done a decent amount of tinkering or moving guys around it to suit needs So I you know. I think there's a lot of pressure guys like US Riley and Carter key boom to fill those spots in the lineup. Yes Kirke very very intriguing player. I don't know what to expect from him. But a lot is riding hunt him. He could be the second best or he could be the second best an shortstop from play shortstop second best analyst. Infielder from Marietta Georgia after dance. Be Swanson. What so what I would say the nationals reason. I'm a little bit more bullish on them. I think that some of their guys are still. Some of their top. Players are so really. I think Victor Roebling so has alive Bruno improve. I think we shouldn't rule out the possibility that wants to got another year to go to So you know by take on the. Nfl East is the only thing I know for sure is of Marlins are GonNa Finish last and I just I am a little afraid predict anything else so but with that said you know. I see where you're coming from even though I had the other way round. What about the mets eighty seven? A little worried up by the way about the the nationals rotation depth obviously the top three or top four is the same as it was last year. But if you get anything less out of those guys and then you're counting on Joe Ross and your fifth spot and then even scarier options after that that could get kind of Harry so mets I'm GonNa go bullish. You're not just because bobby is listening. But I'm taking the over on the mets at eighty seven. Oh yeah this is it. I mean they were close last year. When so much went wrong granted there was also that period where they didn't lose for weeks at a time but still a lot went wrong even by standards and they still ended up just about their and now they have a full season of stroman and I would hope that they have better luck. Better health in certain ways. Although it's never safe to count on that in the mets case. Oh Yeah I think this is the year. I think there's a so here's what I'll say. There is a near zero chance that Edwin D. Az is a better than he was out here has to be. Yeah but I mean you mentioned like rotation depth I. I liked their top three. But I like it a lot less than Washington's and matteson porcelain have been good in the recent past. I am not immensely confident about About their ability to To produce the big league level this year. And then you're getting into the couriers Watson. You know maybe David Peterson. A COP can come in and contribute. They've got probably little bit more pitching depth in the high minors in the the nats do but I you know I went over on the national so I guess there's a little bit of room in there behind them to go over on the mets. But I think this this looks like in eighty five eighty six when team to me so I I wouldn't go way under but I'd still go under. Can I ask you as the resident? Mets Fan on the podcast. Right now. I feel like syndergaard might be the barometer for what happens with this team this year. Like if he has a great year as he didn't twenty sixteen or if he has a injury prone year like twenty seventeen or even a down year like he didn't last year So Mike Can I ask you since you said that you were not as high on their top three as he would be on. Washington's top three even though I feel like there's a lot of injury questions with Washington's top three as well maybe more injury questions. Can I ask you if I told you? That Noah Syndergaard was twenty sixteen syndergaard and that was the real version of him and that he re-figure things out based on like how confident he seems in being shirtless. Enthroned bullpens this all this. This preseason cures it. So I'll say. This Noah Syndergaard self-confidence his not necessarily tracked with his with his production. Throw that out. Can I ask you then like if it was really that twenty sixteen is the version of him? That you'RE GONNA get. How confident would you be in this team going way over? That's actually you know as much as I'm a little bit down on syndergaard right now. I think that's not as big. A question is Matt. I think if those guys Get back to where they were in twenty. I mean Portillo is not going back to where he was at twenty sixty But if you just get comped big you know maybe call it like three hundred combined solid innings out of those guys. I think that would make a bigger difference to me Then what senator does and degrom is so good that I think the pressure on Syndergaard and stroman due to a certain extent. I is lessened To be your real top. The rotation starter. So you know I if you promise me that that Syndergaard was going to be two thousand sixteen syndergaard then I would probably push me to take the over in terms of way over. I think like that rotation DEP is still Maybe not as good as we would assume from the names and also from what we're used to with the mets. Yeah I'd feel a little bit better about them. If instead of trying to pick up marginal guys fringy guys like Ouaga Portillo. They had spent that save money or even a little more money on someone a little bit more dependable because there were plenty of Bill. Tear starters out there and they sort of went. Barkin been shopping so that scares me a little bit even pretentious which I think it's smart to take a a flyer pretentious but even if you had put the money that you devoted to those three sort of risky place on someone you could count on. I'd feel a little bit better but I'm hoping for a revival from Robinson Cano and of course it's the year of your assessment us and jet. Larry What's what frustrates me about. The mets actually is They've done so many difficult things well and they've whiffed on a lot of the easiest things and I think that's the difference between them being it being in the eighties the past couple of years and and really following up at Twenty fifteen season with something special speaking of lacquer guys who've been better at putting and I'm trying to do a segue Ron okay. We move this along Speaking of lack of rotation depth affiliates at eighty five you want over or under under which looking at the phillies projections. It somewhat shocking. No matter what system you look at their high seventies low eighties and if that's where they end up and I don't really disagree with that number that really throws the whole rebuilds into question if it's not already. I just don't know that they're actually making forward progress at this point and you savage Zack Wheeler deal. When they made it. And I don't know the money maybe looks a little more reasonable. In retrospect just because of how the market went after he signed but I think as he pointed out at the time there were many other holes that they had to fill and they didn't fill some of them because that was the big splurge of the off season. And there's still a lot of weakness and vulnerability there and I just don't know if I see a great upside either so they seem to have sort of stalled and I don't really know where they go from here. Yeah I compare their off-season moves to what the White Sox did for instance And the Philly's got one of the big free agents in the two thousand eighteen nineteen offseason. So they were a little bit ahead of that But at the same time they didn't have anything like that farm system but just they did the same thing which is sort of ignore the top tier free agents this year and identify. I think correctly that the middle tier of of this free agent classes where the strength was and the white sox scout way better players. Outta that bar at at bid and it's it just looks like a similar plan with widely different execution. Here's the one caveat. I'll say to eleven phillies pessimism is that production was just so far down across the board with this team last year for guys who have been just the most reliable big leaguers harper real nudo. Sierra Do want to hold off judgment with this team until I see maybe a month or two of how they produce under. Joe Girardi is opposed. Gabe Kaplan because. I think that that's a big shift in terms of clubhouse culture so I think you know I know that's a squishy thing but it is something that I'm interested to see the effects of because I think it could make a big difference here Baby more than anywhere else in baseball agree. All right marlins sixty five over on the MARLINS. I think they tried this offseason. They're not good obviously and they're gonNA be the worst team in the division. Probably buy good amount but I think they did. What a lot of teams aren't doing right. Now which is trying to avoid being terrible even at a time when they know they're not going to be good which I don't know in the long term whether that actually pays off or not but they did kind of paper over some of the cracks with decent veterans who will not be sub replacement level holes on the roster. So I think they've done enough to get over sixty five although I will note that they have the hardest strength of schedule projected according to fan grass. Which just seems sort of unfair? If you're the Marlins just give them an easy schedule. Give them some sort of health but they have to contend with the most difficult schedule on top of everything else. Even so yeah. There's going to be no easy division games for that and I and I for that reason I'd go under. I agree with I mean we tried marlins twenty twenty video play or video yearbook All right and I'll central. This is another trouble up division that I could see anyone afford teams taking tops among them. The spread here on the y over under total Is only four wins between the OR I? I should say a mum at the first four teams cops among cardinals. Eighty six and a half. Yeah just put them all down for eighty five and ten with it. I I hardly do that. Do you just want to like literally predicted four way? Eighty five and seventy seven tie. It sorta seems like that. I just I can't see great separation here and obviously there's not much separation in the over unders so if I had to say that I'm more bullish about one team than another. I guess I would go over on the cubs at eighty five point five. I just think maybe there's a bit more of a rebound there and just the the core is good enough that they could get over that number even though they essentially did nothing this offseason so semi confident in that semi confident in under on the cardinals at eighty. Six point five I think because they were also quite inactive at the major league level. And I'm go over on the reds at eighty five. I think not by much again. This is like push all the way down. 'cause I basically do see solid as roughly eighty five when teams and whichever one stays healthy or gets lucky will end up winning a few more games than that and take the division basically. But I don't know how to predict which one it'll be so I'll say reds over. They've certainly done a lot of work on the roster and perhaps it will start to pay off and then the competitive team the brewers. I think I'M GONNA go under under the brewers which is sorta scary. Because I I do have this sense. That brewers black magic will get them above low eighties. Slavers somebody there was a quote from like an anonymous executive Floating around to that effect. And I think that's a distinct possibility. Yeah I was just about to cite that except that someone has to ask us to stop cursing so much I cast so I didn't want to do it but I can quote a curse. I think he was addressing that tweet to you because You're usually the one who works blue here but it was sorry sorry executive in Ken. Rosenthal's column about how we shouldn't under eight. The brewers who said do I like their team on paper. I never do but they know how to win fucking games so that kind of has tended to be true in recent years. They've kind of had this weird rebuild where they never really bottomed out and so they never really developed a great core and yet they've managed to supplement their pieces with pretty good pickups and yellow. Obviously so that's a hard thing to repeat and do every year. But they've done it to this point. Yeah Yellowish papers over a lot of those cracks just all by himself so here and I like the Josh Limbaugh on pickup. Here's what I will say. I was GONNA go over on the burs until I had. This thought this morning When I was thinking about these over unders which is a wonder how much the Eric lower injuries could impact this team. And I was like well if you're relying on air flowering you're probably not a great. It's as much as I love. Kent State Legend Eric Lower That's not a not an awesome harbinger. So I'm going to go under the burs I'm GonNa over on the reds I love that pitching staff. Is that sneakily in? One of the best pitching staffs in the National League like non-nationals Not Dodgers Division I've got A. I'm very very interested to see how they array all the fourteen third baseman. They seem to have acquired but they probably wouldn't have done it if they didn't have a plan. So we'll see how it works I'll go under on the cubs just because I don't want to root for a team that had an off-season like that and What you said about the Brewers Devil. Magic also applies to the cardinals. I think I will also go if I go under on the cardinals here. Does that mean I think the rents are GonNa win the division? Yeah pretty much all right all right. Maybe I've talked myself into that. I will go under on the cardinals now. I will say they're GONNA win. Like eighty four games knowing that that's going to translate them winning ninety four because that's just how it works the cardinals every year Do we want to think about the pirates as little as possible? So I'm going to say under on sixty eight for the Perez Sixty Eight You went over on on sixty five for the marlins because they tried. I'm going under on sixty eight for the pirates. Because they did not them is that brings us to the National League West At this is actually. This is my favorite number. I think is the most interesting number. We've got dodgers one hundred two wins. Yeah everything in my brain rebels at the idea of picking a team to finish two wins. This is this is part of the reason. I'm this is part of the reason. I'm so excited my experience. All of my training that has led me to this. Moment is telling me you can't take a team to go over to Matt. How good it is and yet. I'm doing it over on the dodgers at one or two. How could they not win? What to first of all I'd be like I'm under on just about every other team in this division and their numbers aren't even that high to begin with so the dodgers have the easiest strength of schedule in the league or in the majors. Maybe which again seems unfair. Might just be a factor of them not having to play the dodgers. Yes pretty much and having to play all these other teams in the L. Western. You take the team. That was their last year. That is pretty much returning except they also have pets now and it's just unfair. I just barring some sort of horrible Yankee's like injury luck without the Yankees out of nowhere. Replacements I just don't see how they really go under triple digits or even one of two for that matter. What's the path to not finishing their? That's exactly right at an I. It's not just. They have to avoid the Yankee. Like injury luck you. It's so obvious how they withstand it if that happens because of the amount because they've done this they built this team's been this dominant the National League West and the way at at the same time they built up one of the best farm systems in baseball so You just they're just plugging Gavin walks into into this lineup. I think Eric Van Graphs. I think had him second overall on his top prospect. Just this is a lineup. That is already produced cory seager. There's already just him out of out of its Farm system is already plucked cody. Bellinger out of its farm system. Air It you they lose They didn't get a whole lot of production at Aricha last year but They replace him engine re which is a big loss With David price dust and maize going to be up for a full season. Got Bruce role to fill in the bullpen. I think the bullpen could be a weakness but also that bullpen might have to protect half to protect fewer high leverage. Close leads Than any other in baseball and I just I'm with you. I see a way easier pats. A one hundred twenty wins than I do deny his team. I think it's over. Maybe way over. Yeah I never thought I would be at the point where I'm saying this but pay. It's this glad you're acknowledging this because I was worried that you were just get a naturally like fall back on the is it is it because I I've just looking like part of this is Prokhoda has the over one hundred and two is address. The heart of your Your Calculus Yeah. I I think I saw that. When they came out with their projections it was the highest. They had ever projected a team. But just the lineup. It's just an all star line-up almost literally from top to bottom. I could imagine any of those players being an all star caliber player Will Smith for a full season. It just goes on and on. They promoted basically a really strong core of a good team last year. In the middle of the season on top of the great court they already had which kind of future proofs them. But even just talking about this year. I I just don't know how wrong it could actually go so yeah I think we have through acknowledged that we're in this strange era and baseball. And maybe we're coming out of it a little bit so that the standings won't be quite as stratified as they were last year and the haves and the have nots won't be separated by quite as much but there are still some super teams. That don't have a lot of competition. And the dodgers are prime among them all right. Let's actually let's skip ahead to the padres who or third on this. Listen eighty-three because I was saying at the time of the movie Bat Straight. I don't think this is an unpopular opinion by any stretch of the imagination. Baseball would have been so much more fun at the padres had pulled off that traders poses the dodgers as it stands eighty three. I think definitely under sells their potential. I think we were maybe a year early on this team last year I could definitely see them as a playoff team. The talent is nobis with the dodgers. But this team I think could could easily win either the other two divisions but at the same time you look at that pitching staff and there's a non trivial chance that it's Zach babies and a bunch of guys you never heard of by at some point because it because nobody can stay healthy So it's they've still got a lot of holes but they've got so much star power. They've got so much young talent. That got a fair amount of depth now After the Tommy Trade It's I like this team a lot. I'd go over. I'm curious what you think. Ceiling is for them. Yeah I think it's pretty much a push at eighty three. I think I'd go under if I have to go one way or another but there's a lot of variance there and I could see a pretty high ceiling but also a somewhat low floor because of the shoes. What is low floor for you? Well I mean we're coming off watching them be one of the worst teams in baseball in the second half of lessner late last year. Which was kind of confounding to me. I didn't think they were going to be a playoff team last year. But they started out at least keeping it close and being competitive and looking like they were really taking a step forward and then everything sort of fell apart. And I know Totti's got hurt and was missing for much of that time but that wasn't the only issue and so seeing them be so bad for an extended stretch made me think that they're not quite ready to take a huge leap so again. This is basically where I would expect them to be. I think they could be a winning team. But I don't know that I see them getting significantly over plus we've already projected the dodgers to win every Inter division game this season so I don't know how many wins are actually out there for anyone else. Well here's a team Kept a little bit closer than That are might have expected in the second. Half diamondbacks won eighty five games last year. They are Tagged for eighty four and a half is the line here. I had some fluky down. They also made a couple of They will I like you. Don't expect Herschel Walker to hit the way he did last year but they don't have at least the first Two thirds of the season. He was by far their best pitcher. They've also picked up a couple of good players that they've done in what I talked about the phillies white sox doing. It went out and signed Madison Bumgarner. That went out and traded for starlet. Martin. I think they've this is a solid team. I think eighty five issues is about right. I guess I'd go over but I think they've got a little bit of a lower ceiling than the padres too. Yep I agree at this is right about where I would put them but if pressed which I am I takeover I I just. They have a recent track record of making smart moves and getting more out of guys from a player development perspective. And it's hard to say if that's repeatable but it seems to me that they have a pretty savvy front office right now and yes. Maybe some of those guys regress from last season. But I like a lot of what they've done and I think they could get over that number the well-constructed five eighty four win team is about the diamondbacks brand and right now. I think I want team so I was in Rockies camp today Apparently today sports illustrated came out with a prediction. That they're gonNA go. Sixty six ninety. Six Vegas is a little more bullish at seventy three and a half on the rockies But this was all All the Buzz Rockies camp today this led to Bud Black Ads starting a question Or starting an answer in a scrum with well. Everyone's born with skin which is great added context quote that. I assure you made sense when he finished the sentence by I I'm more bullish on this team than than sports illustrated seems to be by that. Still gives you a lot of room to go under seventy three? Yeah I mean. I'm glad there's some buzz rockies camp that's not about the franchise player yelling at the GM and vice versa. But I would go under on seventy three point five. Just talking about teams. That did nothing this off. Season THE ROCKIES. Were maybe at the front of that. Line or back of the line they. They really made no effort to upgrade and they seemed to have deluded themselves into thinking that they are a contending team as currently constructed which. I just can't really see myself so I don't think they get anywhere close to that and I as far as I can tell their window more or less seems to have closed. I don't know and I think that's probably the source of Noah Noah's frustration this off season. Not only the constant trade rumors and the miscommunication but the total lack of upgrades and investment in the team at a time when it seemed. Like if you'RE GONNA go for it you have to go for it now and I was disappointed with what happened last year. Because the twenty eighteen rockies rotation was one of my favorite stories of that season we all kind of convinced ourselves. Hey they've figured out horsfield and they actually assembled a strong homegrown rotation for once and then it took a huge step back this year and I still believe or took a huge step back last year. I still believe in at least a couple of those guys like gray and Marquez. But I don't know that we see the the freeland dear again. There are like five or six starting pitchers who I like in theory when they're at their best in their problem over the past couple of seasons. Been getting those guys to fire on all cylinders at the same time and you know I don't know what to expect out a cow freeload this year. We're John Gray. Or you know Peter. Lambert ever gets healthy. So there's there's a lot of players. I like individually on this team just for some reason. The the sum of the parts is is underwhelming. I think just because you look you look it this roster and you know it's not good as padres it's not as good as diamondbacks not as good as the dodgers and just being an individual with those three teams They'RE GONNA lose a lot of. They'RE GONNA lose a lot of games to better teams and I think that it might just be. Now I seventy three is is not wildly optimistic but I think I'd go a little bit under here. I think they probably end up in the in the seventy win range yet and that takes us to giants. Yeah enthusiasm we can muster for them. Yes well just say like you know. I enjoyed the early twenty tense. Okay and I'm glad they're trying to recapture the magic of some of that just boy. Yeah it's It's a bland looking roster right now. Sixty seven point five. I've got to go under on that. They're just so few bright spots here really. I mean it just feels like a bunch of guys playing out does and it and I respect hat. They came by that honestly. I think they wrote that. Core the core that one three world series. So it's hard to complain about this They they wrote it until you know until fell apart from and You know I if you're giants fan. I don't know how you can have any complaints about how the last decade or so is gone. But it's it's going to be tough sledding for a little while I would also under sixty seven half. Yeah I mean. I'm happy that Hunter Pence's back. That's a fun story and I think there's something left and Johnny Cueto and it'd be nice to think that buster Posey's power will come back in Michael. Ski Won't be a winner. Don't listen to this Claire McNair. But it's not you know buster. Posey's power doesn't come back. We could definitely see. Joey Barton the majors this season so yet their individual reasons to to watch US team I think and But I think it's pretty clearly. The worst in the division agreed. Yeah right so that Is Predictions. Thank you for making predictions. Ben Well this is my prediction where someone else makes the prediction. And then I just say whether you have a fifty percent much well painful prediction than if you had just asked me to set the over under. This isn't so much predicting as prediction grading exactly. I'm critiquing someone else's projections. I'm fine with that. Thanks for coming on Ben and we'll be back right after this all right so here. We return for the second half of the show with ringer staff. Writers THAT CRAMP. Who's promised takes cram dog. Tell me about your takes. Takes sort of they're like half takes the the idea come up with for the segment was basically? You know you and banner very reasonable responsible. People who talked about over under in the first half and I think here we should get a little irresponsible and coming up with predictions for the National League in the two thousand twenty season. So for you I have prepared a few half takes things. I kind of half believe will happen. And you haven't seen this before I wanNA present them to you and try to make a case and then see how much I can convince you about each one too. I'm excited to see you. Explore the realm of what? You consider to be unreasonable. Because as much as you think Ben and I are measured. I think you're very straight shooter time so I if I wanna see what the outside of the envelope looks like for you you might believe that but Let's get into the first one because you might not believe that any longer when I say to you that in twenty twenty the Miami Marlins will not finish in last place in the NFL. East. What say you? I think that's fucked up that I mean so you go into the so you haven't heard Ben Benza. By a render segment but like the one thing. I know about the National League I wanNA predict nothing else about that division. It's going to be chaos. That's going to be just blood and Gore all over the place. I have no idea how the first four teams in that division lineup. The one thing I know is that the Miami Marlins are going to finish in last place So if you I I'm willing to to hear you out to a certain point on this 'cause that that actually legitimately might be the most ridiculous thing. I've heard you say what the four years we've known each other. This is ridiculous so let me provide a few pieces of evidence in favour number one. Is that something we talk about? A lot of this podcast is that it's a lot easier to go from terrible too good or decent at position than it is to go from good to great and if you look at the marlins not just last year but year after year they have a lot of terrible on their roster but this off season they actually went out and acquired like major league players which is a big upgrade for them they added his in Corey Dickerson and Matt. Joyce they got Jonathan Vr. Win The orioles decided to get rid of him for some reason so they have like competent majorly hitters. Add to that group like Brian Anderson who I think is pretty decent. They have or how far? Who's your favorite player? I love Farro if they finish last won't be his fault. And then also if you look at their tation I think they like they legitimately might have better rotation than the phillies. Obviously they don't have an air knoll at the top. But I believe in Caleb Smith who's been very good for such as the last two seasons and they just have a lot of good young pitchers with the potential to be a lot better than that and my last point of evidences. We've Tocado we like projections. Dakota only has the marlins six games behind the phillies now. Obviously all for the other analyst teams have designs on the playoffs. They could all finished five hundred or better. But it's not completely absurd to think that the marlins could get up to like the mid to high seventies and wins and one of those other teams probably the phillies collapses. So I like first of all. I like your sharing this with me and immediately predicated this entire house of cards on the on the foundation of the phillies just completely going shit so I I also like how you mentioned that like the list of competent big leaguers includes a guy who couldn't stick with the Orioles Jonathan. Vr Yet like four war last season. He couldn't stick with them because he makes like more than five hundred thousand dollars. That's true I'm being a little bit A little bit outrageous sir Not that I have to apologize to you for this because so I don't know where like you see. There's not that much upside for guys like Anderson and Dickerson even if they are competent bigly hitters. Which is certainly like a your point's well taken that that's more than you can say For some marlins teams of the past but they also have guys are supposed to be in the starting lineup on the as and Lewis Brinson. Who could very well hit one sixty this year. Both of those guys are very talented. Great athletes they have been the core of the Of Our if we even want to dignify with the Marlins you're doing with with by calling it a rebuild But these guys were serious swing and Miss Issues and at you know you could say the same thing for al. Far You could say the same thing for Vr. So I just don't know like I'm looking at the slightest bit apart from Dickerson. I'm not sure who you're going to rely on to get on base and score runs you know as far as the starting rotation may be better than the phillies like saying apart from Aaron. Nola in in that sense is okay. Maybe apart from arid Nola it's close. It could stretch it to that but also like air knowle's a big deal. He's one of the best pitchers and division part from I. You know I like Yamamoto. Who Arena had had a down year last year. Maybe he bounces back. But I just don't know who on this rotation gets to even like above average and Nola will definitely be there. And as much as I drag on on his Zack Wheeler like I take him over. Anybody in this rotation second you know said like there are a few guys in the Bullpen Brandon Kessler Ron Stanic Who who could be useful but like I don't know maybe this roster is made up of guys who I'm sure are competent big leaguers and as far as like overlooking the team with with Harper and Hoskins. Dear Aury Sara Knoller. The mets are the defending world series. Champions are remind you or the defending division champions like they've got so far to go so I will say this though. I appreciate that you have set this challenge and you have delivered what you said. You were going to deliver immediately So from that perspective. It's a good start As far as people taking your baseball now seriously. I'm not quite sure I just want to say like I don't need Corey Dickerson. To come out here and hit like Lou Gehrig you. If you think they're gonNA finish fourth you bite. The marlins last year their entire group of position players or with two point six war Brian Anderson alone is worth three point. One so that meant every other marlins position player combined was below replacement level last year at the very least Dickerson and Vr or replacement level better. So I'll move onto the next take. I just want to say when the Marlins are like twenty four and thirty at some point in the season and the Phillies are twenty two and thirty three. Like yeah remember this conversation. Okay I if that happens I will definitely remember this conversation. Okay Twenty five next take number two. I'll do another team on then I'll move into some player. Ideas number two is that the dodgers will lead the major leagues in runs scored and this might not sound outlandish at first but it's obviously hard for the National League to compete with the AL at the top of the league in runs scored because they have pitchers batting instead of the D. H. Since the big red machine in the nineteen seventies forty to a forty three of the major league leaders and runs have been American league teams. Do you have a guest on who that loan L. Team is? There's no way you get it. So it'd be incredibly impressive right off. What is like nineteen ninety-five rockies or something? The nineteen ninety. Mets led by Darrell Strawberry. You're right I was. You could have given me. Audrey guesses no idea. But so they are the only team since the mid seventies to lead the majors and runs from the National League and my proposition to you. Is that the dodgers will actually be that team this year. So you're you're right. This doesn't sound certainly dot his outlandish as your I take But I'm I'm really blown away by the amount of offensive talent in that lineup at. It's not just. This is a hundred change when team that added a mookie Betts. That's going to have a full season. Gavin Lacson GonNA They could bake it honestly withstand a few injuries like they did last year and still be one of the best offenses baseball. I'm curious what your rationale is for. Some American League team isn't GonNa is a good job because I mean like I I guess I could see what the Yankees are all hurt again. The Astros you would expect some regression if they're if they don't know what pitch is coming or maybe. Just this is a distraction that that causes the team to to take a little bit of a hit is is that it is is adjusted. Berries this outstanding Offense in the National League and you don't see Equivalent one in in the American league. Or it's all so most of this is about my believing in the dodgers last year. The dodger both of the last two years. The dodgers have finished fifth in the league and runs as the top team at fan graphs. This year. They're also projected to come in fifth But if you look at the four teams that finish ahead of them last year. Number four was the red sox which they lost mookie Betts and he went to the dodgers number. Three's the astros number two. The twins and number one is the Yankees So I think I mean do yourself just gave reasons that the Yankees and the astros could easily fall down. Yes I know that all the Yankees were hurt last year. But I don't expect gio or shallow and mytalk man to hit like all stars again and I think the twins might have the best offense in baseball they added. Josh Donaldson didn't lose any of their key players but I could also see some just natural regression from players like politico and Rosario who might have over performed a bit last year and I think your point about the dodgers depth is so important because I'm writing a piece for Friday that includes Mentioned the dodgers playing time and it just absurd to think of what their bench is going to be like. And just the depth they'll have to withstand injuries and to pinch hit for their pitchers and I just think it's really possible that this could be a historically great offense. Yeah one thing that I want to keep a keep an eye on in terms of improvement for last year improvement from last year for the dodgers catcher situation last year they're most used catcher With two hundred forty two plate appearances Austin Barnes who has shown some flashes of on base ability but is typically not. Been Nagging offense player. Last year he two three to ninety three three forty This year I would expect the lion's share that flight time to go will Smith who is a guy been on since he was at Louisville. Who At least in a small cameo last year hit two fifty three thirty seven. Five seventy one. I think he's a great athlete. I think he has a great deal to hit for for catcher. And there's adding Buki batters adding Gavin locks who I think is really jumped off Jumped off the charts in terms of prospect rankings. This off season. I think this stretch like if you made me predict which team is going to win the League in or lead the league in runs scored. I probably still say the Astros or the Yankees. The the twins as much as I think you're right that That they've got some aggression coming but this is not outside the realm of possibility. It's not supposed to be perfect. These are half takes. I will say one thing I'm really interested in with. The dodgers is There pagoda projections or wind projections with something. Like one hundred. Two hundred and three wins Which is outrageous for something as naturally conservative is a projection system And you look at the the histogram that they published like this is not. It's not outside the realm possibility that the dodgers under the right circumstances could make a run one hundred sixteen or even one hundred and twenty-one issue. I think that they're that talented. They're that far ahead of the rest L. My half take for the dodgers was almost that they're going to set the live ball. Era Record for National League wins and I realized that's only one hundred eight and I actually think that's an outlandish all actual mad to go boulder. Yeah I think there might be an even better of that happening all right. What's number three so number? Three is a ringer special Which is that friend of the site. Tommy Edmund will lead the cardinals in position player war even though he might not even be an opening day starter okay. You'RE GONNA have to walk me through this one. I mean first of all. Just look at the math. Edmund was worth three point eight war and basically half a season last year so extrapolate that and he's a seven and a half when player. Mvp candidate In all seriousness. I think that's good. Nasdaq I L- like the boiling everything down to first principles. They're this strength of the cardinals is I. I don't think they have any star players but they have a lot of good players like Paul Goldschmidt. I don't think it's going to hit like he did in Arizona anymore. Paul the Young Colton Wong. These are all good players. But I don't think any of them is going to put up a five or six win season and I'm not saying Tommy. Edmund is going to do that but if you combine his ability to fill in at a lot of physicians his good defenses on Bass ability a speed I. I just think he's the kind of player who you look up at the end of the season. And He's put together like four and a half winds because he just adds at the margins everywhere you know he might only add two and a half win at the plate but then he adds another winter so on defense and he had some based running and he's able to play every day for giving guys rest and I think Tommy Admin some people think that his rookie our line overstates his potential. But I believe That that stat line is actually like certainly within reach the season. Okay so you and I had an argument last Earlier this week about the potential going forward for Yoan Moncada and I think. I don't remember if we talked about Tim Anderson but MOCATTA having one of the highest babs In the live ball era. And I just WANNA share a couple of numbers. I looked up Thomas had been last year. Four point six percent walk rate not great Three forty six babb any does have a good This is not the the stack has version of of these stats. This is a fan graphs where they put it in two buckets His hard medium contact rate are pretty good but his home run to fly ball ratio. Last year was almost three times. What it was in any of his Is Full Minor? League seasons so districts across the board. It screams fluky rookie season. You know what the answer is. It's juice ball. 'cause HIS HOMERUN to fly ball rate in the minors last year in AAA where they had. The juice ball was exactly what it was in the majors. So but see I got you. I know God that sucks with the fundamental question though so like how willing are you to trust players performance now when you have to also trust that. Mlb IS NOT GONNA. Change the ball on you. This is this is actually my biggest question. Mark with the twins Is I think a lot like you. Look at that lineup. And they've got power all the way up and down the lineup. But they don't have this much. They don't have greatest power hitting team of all time Power and which is what they showed last year. So like a lot of what? We're counting on from them. You know you mentioned Palumbo. Rosario Mitch Garvers Guy who who comes to mind like Beezer not five six hundred slugging percentage people and I think Tommy Edmund. I'll say this Taliban is ten times a player. I thought he was going to be when he was coming out of Stanford But I think what he showed. Last year is just two or three. Notches above what? I think we can expect from him. A going forward Offensively which is not say that his ability to fill in all over the field as useful not say that he's not a good defender base runner in hitter. I just the power is I just. Don't think he's a a a three fifty p. guy for the rest of his career. I I the power is it. As best case. Scenario the result of the juice ball So as much as I love it I. I guess we're not a contract as contractually obligated to love Tommy Edmund. Donny's not here anymore but as much as I love Tom. Edmonds game Best Player on the cardinals or at least most valuable player on the Carl's position player Blair he doesn't need to clarity. Yeah you're in the you're in the tank for Jack Flaherty I just don't trust these numbers as much as you do that. Okay that's the bottom line. Well I'm about to give you some numbers you're going to trust even less because my last half take. I'll give you an option I. I wasn't sure which one to say. But it's both about the same player so either Felix Hernandez accrues higher pitching war than any Mariner or Felix Hernandez pitches in playoff game. And you WANNA scream. I love boat waving your Fists Right Now. I love it. Oh my God we're talking. We're talking about like fuddy slash weird lash slash sad things that could happen. This season feels Hernandez pitching in a playoff game with the braves would just be. I love it I it would just. It would be the Cherry on top of twenty years of absolute dog ship misery for the Seattle Mariners which I certainly wish ill will on the murders of their fans but as a lover of irony. I it would be incredible to lay out to the listeners Felix Hernandez signed a minor league contract with the braves. He's pitching in spring training for them as a non roster invitee and he's pitching well he's thrown four games one point nine eight. Dra better than strikeouts per inning. Which is important given how his strikeout rate at the major league level has collapse over the last few seasons? He hasn't allowed a home run yet and obviously the competition. He's facing is not the kind of competition he would face in the NFL. This season particularly against Stub in nineteen twenty seven Yankees by which I mean the Miami Marlins by Felix Hernandez also found himself in a pretty good position to Tation spot because the braves also signed Cole. Hamels this winter but he's now hurt they'll probably need a fifth starter on opening day and the way he's throwing in spring training it kind of feels like Felix. It's going to get there. Well we'll hold onto that all season both when ham comes back in with all the braves pitching prospects coming up. Maybe not by I want to believe and I think when I saw that he signed with the braves I was like. Oh we're probably not gonNA hear from him again. This is just kind of what people do. Industry careers But the last few starts have really made me believe. And that's why you have these two takes. I think so I'm just looking at the mariners projected rotation just to see who the competition's going to be So they got to is category men and Taiwan Walker who have been very very good in the recent past and I'm not really sure about either of their ability to stay healthy enough to to pitch effectively in the big leagues at this point handle griffin ever been really really good. He's been maybe really really good as is never had an era of four. Yeah but he did a lot of that in the Al Wes. Well here's here's what I'll say about Kennedy and he's been really really easy was about league average for three years on some Pretty Mediocre Oakland teams. He was very very good at Mississippi State about well in that case you know at Fox Hernandez was doing when he was when he was the aged grape wasn't mississippi state was pitching like a CY young winner in the Al West Mead. Certainly I don't think Kendall Agreement is going to be it's as Felix Hernandez this. You're you don't have to convince me of that. I think Marco Gonzales will probably be fine. Kukuchi could be fine justice. Sheffield still still has a lot of potential. He's going to have every chance to to reach that potential at the Mariners. Salwen when they got him in the James Paxton Trade. Do not ask me how he's about my take from last year about how he will out war Paxton over. The course of the next few seasons Kazan has not I just I. I know you said this is crazy. Take I'm with you one hundred percent this is I I love it from just the storytelling perspective. I love it. Just it seems there's you could see the pats so clearly To how this actually comes to fruition. I'm GonNa drop this audio live. When Justice Sheffield puts up like six worst season in Felix Hernandez pitches seven games? Just so you guys know. I'm Markus Justice. Sheffield is minute. The only number the only number that's GonNa Approach for Justice Sheffield. This year is his walks per nine. Knitting grace I am. I mean with this exercise. I'm just happy that when I threw out the first marlins take. It looked like Mike was going to step up and leave his microphone. He was so upset. And then I got to this final one and he was like waving his fist like he was rocky love it. I was happy we got here. All right So yeah we'll be track. These takes as the season goes on Particularly the Brian Anderson Versus Lou. Garrick comparison that that we alluded to earlier And we will definitely bring these backup. If if Brian Anderson hit forty seven home runs and hits three seventy or whatever all right jack. Thanks for coming on we'll We'll talk again next week until then that'll do it for this week's episode of the Ringer. Mlb Show thanks as always Thebenz Act for joining me and special. Thanks to Bobby Wagner from using today show thanks also Lance Lynn Fields Hernandez forgiving stuff to talk about. And thank you for listening.

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The Yardwork: Ep 156: The Stro-show

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The Yardwork: Ep 156: The Stro-show

"What's up guys back yard or Andrew? I got my peyot coming back on the show with me today. What's going on buddy much glad to be here? We got a we got some good stuff to talk about. I think there's a few a few things that is New Yorkers. We really need to address. We're going to get into that of four. We do that. Make sure you guys follow us on twitter at the Arctic you subscribe to us on on the part of the net and with all that said let's get into the show ours. I think we have to talk about the elephant in the room right now. Marcus Stroman to the New York mets he's coming home but just the wrong the wrong New York team the wrong way to come home and I mean it's not even like the mets broke the bank for him. They give up to prospects weren't even top hundred prospects excellent. I just think I think that's crazy. I definitely think it's something that the Yankees could have easily paid. I mean the Yankees besides Debbie. Garcia don't have a great amount of pitching prospects but I still think they coulda piece something together and I'm just I'm like I keep hearing hearing at like on on on E._S._p._N.. I kept reading today during the during the morning the people saying like like are the Meta they crazy or whatever. I don't think they're super crazy like you said. I don't think they broke the bank for it. I think that the mets think they have a chance at least one game in October that they're gonNa make the wildcard so I'm kind of all of you think you have a chance go for it for them. You also gotTA remember their double digits game back at a first place. Oh yes I think that six out of the second wildcard and they still got a leapfrog like another four teams on their favorites mets man knowing the mets they'll come back. They'll have a flawless month of August and a lead in the wild card and they'll blow in September but it's it's such a not mess thing to do to kind of. Go Out and get this big name Guy midseason. I feel like but new G._M.. I guess there they got chip in the shoulder and they're trying to have sign approve but <hes> I don't I don't. I don't think they're doing into good a job. I think Micky Calloway's on the hot seat he knows it and I don't think you see them in New York. Come next season. Yeah I mean I don't. I don't think that they can go another season callaway especially like making that trade for D._A.'s trading your number one pick kill Nick was news breaking it down there and then like the minor leagues for Seattle. I mean timelines to win now for the mets and I mean you got strong. Strong right. Now only has next year. It's going to be interesting to see if they extend them but I definitely think that next year it's going to be usually when you go for like a pitcher like stroman you go for this trait is because you have a legitimate shot at over. They do not have a legitimate. I don't think it's even that realistic to be honest now. I don't I don't think is that realistic I'd like to I just don't know what are the meth playing for those playing for a playoff berth exactly like why why make a trade if you're not confident that's going to propel actually i. I do see why people are saying the mets thinking <hes> were. They were not even that like they gave up prospects. He said ringing in the top one hundred who really cares like what are they thinking like they actually think they have a shot and I'm not trying to be a hater and we got cory comes on the show. Sometimes the big mets fan. He's not here so we can't even defend found the mets put like Komo. I got and convicting myself like I respect it right. You think you'RE GONNA win. Go out and try but like you are double digit games at a first place six and a half from the second wildcard sometimes it's I don't like tanking but sometimes it's okay to kind of go through rebuild yeah you have to rebuild. Sometimes one arguments going to be that he has next year but then like let's see some other moves in then you're talking about still moving syndergaard. If your goals rather than for next year wheeler should be gone who's on expiring deal Frazier Vargas those guys all than have to be gone if you're going to go through that plan of let's build for next year. Get some guys who are like close to big league ingredient. Have them go next year and I'm pretty I'm pretty interesting to see what happens with syndergaard because I know I know syndergaard. They're looking at trade him another looking at San Diego and other places they can get a good return on syndergaard. They get a little more interesting but I definitely think they need 'em O._B.. Help though if they unless third full set on paying stormy whatever you want if you get ammo beheld for Syndergaard it'd be interesting then next year because I think stolman could slide in take his spot spot in the rotation yeah. I don't think it would make a super difference. I'm also not the biggest inner guy. I don't think he's as good as everyone kind of. I think he's has long blond hair and those nine. He's the perfect guy to hype up around yeah but but I I don't know I'm not I'm not. I'm not too crazy about him. I do think they can get a good return on them up but if they don't trade syndergaard than I think this is just a big mess mess yeah I think right now they have to be looking to deal syndergaard and I could. I like to sound like a crazy Yankee fan but at the same time the mets going for Stroman I mean that was the Yankees Guy Yeah. It seems like it's the Yankees not trying to say that they sabotage the Yankees like they sabotage the did and but I I just don't get how like Toronto was saying that like they wanted Garcia so bad but like like what I'm hearing is that these two kids from the mets and their good prospects but like neither like that Kay was Nali Garcia level like I don't know it. It almost seems I just wanted to take from the Yankees and it's also kind of weird though because I feel like the Yankees and bluejays kind of trade a decent amount the legs last year yeah jury and Jerry mckinney for J tap yeah trade deadline around this time last year so it's like they have ed blood yeah yeah I mean also Toronto. They're like thirty and like almost seventy like day. They know they have no shot. I know they're just gonNA rebuild. I know strong water. I think he was pretty clear that he wanted to be New York bears time. You said you wanted to play in New York where we'd be excited to play in New York. I don't think he meant the mets. I think you aren't a plane the Bronx and play for the Yankees I ah the one thing I will defend the Yankees with if you don't see your as your guy going game one in Ne- like L._D._s. the A._F._c. s will even the world series then I can kind of defend not breaking the Bank for him. That's the only thing like the one thing about the Yankees I don't want them to trade for guile exactly and they're not saying that we lose bad but Zack Wheeler is a guy who maybe we'll start game four of the the L._D._S.. He's not going to be your frontline guy. There's no point of getting guidelines like we have ZAC. We have J. Hat right. Get your get your series changing God -actly your game changing your Justin Verlaine. I mean if you ask me though I know several still her. Severino is still my guy not this season obviously if he does come back this year and he gets limited time. I don't don't imagine him starting. I don't even know if he I don't even know if you might even start postseason games you might be in the bullpen yeah stuff like that but definitely up until this year last two years and even possibly you know the years following I mean I did silting seventies my guy I haven't given up on Severino he's only twenty years old now. Seventies definitely gone then I think they hope that Paxton slide into that number two spot who he's been so terrible because he's Canadian. It's been system dead man and who knows maybe maybe it will be the first first time play also finally wake up a little bit but the Yankees got a tough thing with the postseason because <hes> near Norman might be starting anymore like the postseason innings limit. He's going to be is so it's GonNa be interesting. I think if you have her mind and Severino I think them two combined could like take a game six and that's kind of like your bullpen game then you're GonNa go Paxton and then after that it's like had that feeling it's also the thing I'll tell you have also Tanaka right through the Red Red Sox. I don't think I WANNA pitching. I think rose up to talk about yes. Yankees got absolutely shelled three SRI game for one that was big that was big but <hes> your soy I remember the Red Sox are like nine and a half games behind the I think it might be ten nine nine F W so there's still far behind the Yankees and I think sometimes we just get a little bit nervous with the Yankees but I remember their sixty seven thirty thirty eight before this red sox series Yankees had the best record and win percentage in baseball <hes> y you recognize the twins of cooled off a little bit. The Indians are moving are moving up the neither mood Indians. I think are how unions get hot. They're super good. Jose Ramirez finally started yeah. Finally I feel like every year though he kinda I feel like this last year. He was slowing the beginning of the year really turn it on this year. It took him a long long time. He gets hot man. That's dangerous team. I think they all really feed it off. Each other guys kiss start off slow endured and you've got to start the year of do injury in all those guys get back and they started playing hot. I think they really feed off each other. I think they need a team. Look out for yeah and it all depends on unhealthy. I think KLUBER STILL OUT CARRASCO. They were saying that he might return from his treatment so hey I mean that team gets healthy. You don't know man and then and then we said like you were saying some of the pitchers man kind of hurt your love with Trevor Bauer rate. Who's he's a psychopath man? He is a psychopath and I say in like the best way possible fierce competitor him insures that same crazy mentality <hes> he's a complete psychopath. I mean you heard stories of him like blocking people on twitter mid game and everyone's like how are you on your phone like this guy's always lurking always watching ah last year like on twitter he was talking about how it would be smart like someone said like any. They're going to trade him. Maybe why would they train me this year. It'd be smarter trade me next year he had what what are you saying guy and then yesterday him getting Mad Chuck Talkshow Ball from the Moun- over the Centerfield Wall to three hundred forty five. That's a toss man like I'll give it to everybody. Did it like it was nothing it was just he took one step and it was Kinda three Chris sidearm throw he was just he was mad. Ed even like I remember in the game and A-rod was even like you need a little insanity to pitch a New York and I mean I'm not saying that Trevor Bauer would be a good get for the Yankees because like I mean the media radio be crazy but like he's I if you ask me. He's the type of frontline guy who like I would be okay with because he's definitely an upgrade over Paxton. I feel like I feel like I love intensity and like how he's a competitor but I honestly just don't think he's as good as a pitcher. Everyone I lost. He had a really good year last year. These definitely tell them he's only had one really good year. He's always had a good stuff but he can never put the. I should kinda did this year's kind of the second above average pitcher last year. He was real good but I mean you recycle. Terry Francona walks up to the mountains. I what ever you do that and I'm sorry coach Pat on the back and walks off like the guy knows noses psychopath. I think he has trouble controlling his anger and I think that might be why some teams stay away yeah like I don't. I don't see now how the Indians like I mean if they need you even thinking about trading him. It's now they're started winning so they probably weren't like definitely hurt. His is valuable that yeah I think it definitely did. I think the Indians I think they're going to be a buyer's. Come the trade deadline if they do anything I think they're going to try to try to get more pieces. They lost Michael Branly Los Encarnacion which I I think I think especially when they traded they treated got Santana back burnouts they got they lost in the offseason yeah yeah I think <hes> I think so yeah. I still think some of those some of those deals Kinda hurt them. I think that they didn't expect to be doing as well as they are right now. Everything like in Kronos won't point was leading the American league in runs. I don't think day expected that tipping Verani Librarian healthy. He's a beasley best average. They always knew is really contacted by me. I won't point. He was second in the A._l.. Bonhomme he'll get better D._J.. I know he's kind of a beast Michael Brennan so you get enough love with that Astros outfield you'll year springer Bresnik trying to beat up catchers branly gets nothing that's another team who the WHO's pretty high on synagogue too and that would be pretty dangerous that would be as you give. I like to do have like a pretty decent drop off. mccullers <unk> hurt Charlie Morton is not there anymore but I mean I feel like with ver- lander coal and Syndergaard. You're one to thirty. That is pretty lethal yeah. <unk> especially when playing amazing here kind of <hes> was it last year a little bit of a down year now. Leicester rebounded pretty nice before that he got traded of the ashes. I don't think he did as well all his day expected. Still they got the world series when the Astros in yeah it was last year rebounded well. He's been pitching really good as of late. I remember like I I. I was like what the Yankees Nah. I think it was after that when I just remember like the Yankees and being like we know Gary Cole- didn't he didn't win. He didn't win. He joined these year that off season because the Yankees had just got right yeah yeah. I'm thinking I'm like if the Yankees traded for galaxy like why treat for Garrett coffees well he's just another sunny graves number two and then he started going crazy was an all star light and then it's like well. I guess the Yankee should have just traded about semi gray was like every Yankee Fan that I knew I talk to everyone was like pretty high on Sonny Gray and then he took the bump in New York. He absolutely just shit the bed yeah. He was just not going to New York man he I will go to games and and I believe toward the end of his time he he was coming out of the bullpen. He came out of the bullpen opening game and the whole stadium just erupted with lose. No one wanted to see Sonny Gray on the bump in Yankee Stadium. I mean he was just him and Tyler Clifford. They were so Kluber is so bad. I don't know I guess I don't want to be a hater. Only <unk> spread positive do but I don't know how this guy gun that will be. I don't know how it keeps getting contracts. He is so bad. The guy's is not is not a very good pitcher. I forgot what year was that there was this one stretch emory against like Oh my God body just couldn't get it out and get Blues Gabes. Oh I'm so he's still not a Yankee anymore but a spear the Yankees Bullpen. I saw something that they were talking about. Trade for Shane. Green is actually a former Yankee. Thank you yeah Dow from Detroit Detroit Yeah so it'd be interesting news pitching ace lean leg Leo pointingly e._R._A.. This year say he's not he's not a bad pick up. I honestly I'm for one knock crazy about the Yankees accuse bullpen. I will agree they have I think they have one of the best bullpens in baseball. I'm watching the Games I never feel like super-safe even with Chatman as good as Chapman. I don't feel safe with you. Watch Chapman Pitch. He doesn't even look at home plate hinges so much throw he's looking into like right-center field before when he throws a guy does not the guy just throws. It's the champion the guy I used to feel the most comfortable with the TANS is but he hasn't seen exactly. I got good stuff man but like he's Kinda. Tell Duff after after real good early start. I'm not crazy about Zach Britton men like yeah he was pretty good with Baltimore or who really cares about the oil you know and he came and he comes in Oregon. He does not bay just a job for the most part like and you also gotta remember when the sixty seven thirty eight they're doing overall. They're fantastic but uh-huh but you can't help just sometimes you're watching the game just to feel a little bit nervous. I feel like they get in a in a like basis loaded second and third situations like way too much and also given that much swats the highlights of other teams games. I don't watch the full game molested a Yankee game. Usually I can't get the best indication but I definitely I never feel super. Super Safe with our bullpen probably sounds crazy to most people and even like last night like champion gives up two runs exactly tying runs brought into the DHEC we came in with a five-run lead like exactly what the Doorman we're gonNA swear it was on a four-game sweep by this and after that he and I feel a lot of the guys that are bullpen are Kinda like like they were good like Chapman was really good. He's still is. I don't think he's never not the same guy was from Cincinnati. Yeah I guess you could say that a hundred five Mile Our lights out immaculate and Yeah No. He's definitely started to throw a lot more of his sliders unders yeah but yeah like like other night. Now's the other night. This was a while ago without the raise with Dr no he had he had yesterday line. A slider are no take some yard man see October. We didn't the Yankees. He's definitely need to get a guy. I think they will after honestly offseason was slow year. We got the mayhew an her shallow but no Yankee Fan was excited about either of those really. Maybe we'll make you a little bit more. No one expected Lemay a union shell to be doing as good as they are now g over show. I saw you say it has a twenty four doubles on the air. It's been in over three hundred there guys agree. I Love Them. I think they're they're fantastic. I think or shall it did a great the job of of filling that void of no Amdur and do I think Lemay Hugh I think he really wasn't life. I feel like going into the year two Lewinsky D._V._D.. And glaze <unk> healthy obviously tool team gave a worth. Let's start there. I feel like there'd be no room for mayor. I'm so glad he was able to to get that starting spot because he's been one of the best and Aussie. I love the Yankees Infield Yeah I really do. I think it's just in with Amdur like I'm not I wouldn't be surprised if especially she not only won two matches me explicit the except the one up them. I wouldn't be surprised if Andy Warriors names really talked about it and I feel bad friend who are. I know that he would have been able to produce them where to real well. If he was healthy I I agree but as much as I love the guy and it was a great year last year at I'm loyal to my Yankee to my Yankees but the same time you know best line of you have brought the best lineup to win best player plays and if Andrew Hore is not which I mean if you really think about it like with Lemay you if you bring back her shallow than you have lemay you show both of the cover third base. I mean Amdur might I'm not saying into our camp played better than them easily cat. He's a great hitter but like if you could upgrade upgrade get a number two pitcher form. That's when it's like you might have to bite a bullet right. It's also it always comes down to team needs and it's always a sacrifice you you always have to sacrifice for greatness. You have to sacrifice for the win. If you look back at you know the cubs twenty sixteen they gave up Gleyber Torres for a ring. They got in Chattanooga for half a year. They won the world series the first time in one hundred and eight years so I feel like if you have to give up something that can really just ensure you the best chance of winning now. I think every fan can respect that and I'm all for it. I WANNA win. It's been ten years and that's that's crazy for the New York Yankees. That's a drought. That's the championship drought for the New York Yankees and your exports if you told me that like we were trading and four in a package with a couple of our other prospects I don't know specifics included have to give me probably even Garcia to probably frazier you told me could bring back a guy like Sherzer. Is there you up as much as I love. I Love Clint Frazier. I think he's also an odd man out right now. I Love Clint Frazier. I loved Clinton Frazier but I've come to the I've. I've accepted that I accept it as fate. He's not going to be Yankee for much longer. There's there's problems with him in the front office I agree. I think he's a little bit not his four I think he's very I think he's a very genuine guy and he's really true to himself and he's got swag and he was a little crazy. He wears a crazy cleats. He he got the nose ring the hair the hair like he's he is like a perfect New York guy like he represents New York but I think he might do a little bit too much and that kind of makes makes them a little bit on Iman Shumpert too much about their appearance and off the field than what they're doing on wheels did produce like he did. It did produce at the Bat. He was kind of liability in the field but I definitely think if he was on any other team the dodgers he'd been enough to have a starting spot so there has to be some kind of underlying problem and so I feel like his time with New York is just done like I know like they don't really need it like he doesn't really profile like they're saying the bed joffe it makes sense to have him on the bench and because there could maybe talknet to perfectly defensive players like the perfect for a couple of starts a week free it makes no point to call him on the bed right you gotta call and also you have to realize with this Yankee team right now numbers one point eight so have you got a kind of like you said Bite. The bullet rather take a hit. You don't play Frazier your number nine guys talking. There's not a great hitter as good as a good fielder like that might be more important. Because one to eight can score a below two runs but then it was clint free gay could hit but if he's going to do terrible on the field and then you might as well just say all right we'll take one out of an extremely stacked lineup and we'll put a fielder out. They're kind of like Gardner to garner's like the energizer. I think anybody right now. It's like Clint. Frazier probably is a better hitter than Brett Gardner better player. I mean it's just a cycle of sports yeah but then the garden so much other things that Gardner brings he's just is such a good competitor. He's never he always just busting his ass and do I. I just love Garner. I love looking at his head so big. They were so funny so pig gets that when shop in the top of the you get so mad as head so big he's always nick toons gum tobacco whatever here he's funny. He's a funny Dude Ni- yet. I don't know I know be here next year. Problem Gardner fees not every year. I'm always like Gardner and then he comes back and I'm like I'm glazed yeah. The second love hate relationship with Garner because I don't. I don't think he really is the best guy isn't getting older happens but I mean he's. He's been a real solid Yankee. The last ten you ten eleven years he's been a glue guy. He's GonNa do guy. He's a good locker room guy. I mean I've <unk>. He's the longest tenured Yankee Right Ryan Francis Abaza. He's with cece because he was there. Today has nine pretty yeah. No he wasn't right. I'm pretty sure he he had like a little bit of like a <hes>. A little bit of a taste of the will be here before Yes yes so you him tendencies and I mean I know he was in the Yankees system very much been a Yankee forever so I don't know it'd be interesting. I just hope the Yankees pitcher man <hes> that's all I know we'll see time. Clock is ticking. I know may maybe Bumgarner Baby Bumgarner now. The giants keep winning bunglers. They're not winning enough but again. It's like the medic. Do they think that they might have a shot <unk>. I personally don't shoot the giants can play they don't have as though I was. I was looking up to looking up <hes> the standing China refresh my brain ever member who's number two of the Anna Westin might have been the giants on. I know the team that was like behind the daughter fourteen games out ridiculous ridiculous so yeah the giants the number two team in the West but I don't see making a playoff push in new do i. I just don't I think they have like rebuild. Garnell at the I do of the Yankees Yeah Bum just give us a chang good fighting chance gardner would go on Kashmir into the Justin Justin Verlinden type of dish at the vibe himself a little bit too. I think he's a great player sky. It's nukes. He's a guy who's proven himself to an October. The that's the guy don't don't bring he's a beast in October. Bringing Wheeler don't bring bringing <music> like minor minor just bringing bringing the big dog Mike Minor Acai one. This is his best year of his career. He had one good year with Atlanta Guide. Her six years already missed like a million in years and there was a Kansas City for a little bit where your crew goes to die good thing you picked up by the Rangers and now they are. They're talking about Matt Boyd to Phnom that Lord Not bad boy boo. He's getting he's having a break out year but oh I awesome I read. You've used to see my face. I read something the Tigers xt for gleyber Torres from Avelar Map. They WANNA package built around Gleyber Torres a two time all star for I think Memoir Twenty eight he's controllable Oh but a twenty eight year old lefty with his first breakout year which wasn't even d._v._d.. Winston team no singer so a twenty eight year old who just had its first breakout and it's and it's and it's also funny because you said good for two time all star Dr he's the youngest two-time all-star Yankee Franchise history since mantle and who's the mantle mantle and Dimaggio so I mean that's insane companies. I mean come on come on that Edward pissing me off that makes hat rolling in Detroit Detroit man. What are you GONNA do tagger? Suck best quotes of all time paramount thank you.

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REShow: Jeff Passan and Pat McAfee. Hour 3 (07-29-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

45:34 min | 2 years ago

REShow: Jeff Passan and Pat McAfee. Hour 3 (07-29-19)

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He's such a class act. John Lynch is I mean it's it's got to hurt him that he's not in yet. I mean let's let's let's be honest right. I would hurt me. He's a human being is in Wayne Awhile and he's but he should be in he will be in. I mean Sapp told me all the time that Derrick Brooks everybody thinks that everything in the cover to the Dungy cover to was funneled towards brooks they funneled towards Lynch 'cause they knew he was on the back end ready to thump mean those bucks teams that have sat and Derrick Brooks as by the way first ballot hall of famers. It's time to put Lynch and they're certainly only if they're going to have twenty of them in two thousand twenty which will be on our conversation list for this coming weekend. Frank Reich was on the show and with Charles Davidson our number two but we're going to turn our attention of baseball right now. <hes> a Yankee salvaged a game from the red sox the Yankees starting pitching brutal Chris Chris sale got lit up last night red sox need pitching Yankees need. Everybody needs pitching. Let's be honest dodger fans around here who think this is finally there year for the first time since one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. They think they need pitching. Everybody needs pitching. The question is who's going to be out there. Pitching the mets mets depression but the mets got pitching and Marcus Stroman. I mean what in the holy hell of the mets thinking and doing. That's how we start things out with our Honda insider from E._S._p._N.. Our friend Jeff Passan back on the show. Don't worry jeff excellent rich. I'm asking the same question right now. I wish I had a great answer for you. What are they thinking? What are they doing? What are they doing? I will be able to tell you fifty hours from now when the trade deadline has passed because I think looking at this Marcus stroman trade and evacuate right now I think it has a lot to do with what the move's next they make. Are they looking to win in twenty twenty. How are they looking to win? In twenty twenty with Noah Syndergaard is with that with those are the big questions right now with the mets and <hes> they have hijacked the pitching market <hes> by going out as a non contender and getting a guy who everybody thought was going to go to one of the contending teams that needs starting pitching do the mets think they can contend now they're six out and they figure that they that they do if they do keep syndergaard or wheeler or that they would still have a big three that they could do battle with and if they flip syndergaard they would have a whole bevy of love of prospects that would replenish more than replenish whoever they gave up for Stroman I mean is that the strategy that's one of the possibilities there's so many different iterations you can go down rich. They could trade back wheeler depending free agent. He's not going to sign a contract extension trade wheeler and Syndergaard they could trade just syndergaard and hope with we are that in a really weak casually they can make a run here. I don't see that being mauled together. Likely it's not just the fact that they're six games back. They've got six teams ahead of them for that second wildcard spot two and teams that frankly on paper are better than them now. You've got a team like the San Francisco giants that I'm able to properly not better than them but let's remember this mets team. The reason that these trays are even be considered in the first place is because they've been disappointed to this point so why all of a sudden hundred five games to the season are they gonNA flip a switch change I just I don't see that being a reality. Despite the protest stations have met fans otherwise you say hey. Let's go for it. You know we've got five big starter. Stephen Matthews coming off a shut out. Let's just ride it out. I don't see that so why a syndergaard available why well I think it's because if if you look at the rest of the market rich it's really not very good. They're not a lot of potential frontline starters out there. You know Cleveland talking with teams about Trevor Bauer. I think it's probably more likely though that he goes in the off season and when you go to the next year you've got Mike Minor and Robbie Ray both having your of Control F. to our troops but not potentially a frontline guy like Noah syndergaard well again but syndergaard did the mets just not WanNa pay him or they can't afford it because they've already paid I mean. I don't think it has anything to do with money. I think that's more to do with opportunity. Costs you know Noah syndergaard still has the stuff of an ace yeah when you have as many teams out there as you do that needs starting pitching we can talk about the New York Yankees. They're probably not trading him. <hes> we can talk about the Minnesota twins who have <hes> Royce Lewis and out secure lock in their system to guys who would be perfect for the mets more Louis shortstop incur- law who's the left hand corner outfielder and first Baseman <hes> you've got Milwaukee and <hes> the bruise really don't have a de farm system but they have a need for starting pitcher and you've got San Diego in Atlanta that the padres are not contending this year but they've got arguably. I believe the best farm system and baseball certainly one of the top two and have plenty of talent and then you've got the braves who've got arms and Christian Pasha Andrew waters to outfielders who <hes> and that certainly could use it. There's a lot of talent to be had for a guy like syndergaard right right now and I think it's perfectly reasonable that they have him out there on the trade market but you're also remember trading him. <hes> probably for eighty cents on the dollar considering he's in the midst of his worst season and the one thing that the mets don't want as Noah syndergaard to go somewhere where he's GonNa be like Garrett Cole and turn into an age light he did when he went from Pittsburgh USA Jeff Passan from E._S._p._N.. Here on the rich Eisen show at the trade deadline and Z. mentioned moments ago fifty hours away. Bumgarner what do you think <hes> the giants have caught fire where I thought for sure he would be on the market and the giants would be sellers where things stand with a couple of days remaining with one of the greats of all time Yeah I. I think a lot of people myself included agreed with you. I mean as of a month ago. The giants were dead in the water then they decided to become the best team in baseball and they've been that over the last five at the same time rich the giants are twenty six in ten in one run games. It's ridiculous and it's probably not particularly sustainable even though they do have a really good bullpen that being said you need to get a lot if you're going to be trading Madison Bumgarner for a couple the reasons number one because he is iconic player in the franchise you know he's won three world series and really almost single-handedly by himself brought them the two thousand fourteen championship but beyond that you don't want in the midst around like this to say to your clubhouse to say to your fan base say that everyone who follows giants yeah you know working punt just to get something back now. If the giants hold onto bumgarner they'll give him the qualifying offer and they'll get a third around or so no traffic out of it and about eight hundred thousand dollars bonus money and that's all well and good but you're going to need a lot more than that in return and I'm not sure at this point that teams that compelled despite the paucity of starters out there to give that much up for a free agent to be well. I mean unless you have an opportunity to win it right now and you know if you're the Yankees if you're Brian Cashman you look around and you got a team that can hit like crazy if they can stay healthy but in the the long run you know you're going to have to pay judge. You know you're GONNA have to pay Gleyber Torres. You know you're going to have to play pay Gary Sanchez. You know that you did the right move by not going from Chato waiting to see if di Gregorio could be healthy and he's been just terrific Vick. You know you're going to pay him and you know that you got Aaron. Hicks already under contract so you got a bunch of prospects in the farm that you don't really have spots for in the next two three four years but you know that you got an ace. Who's hurt you know you? You got a thirty nine year old playoff warhorse who's on the injured list and you know you got a pitcher in Tanaka who had a performance on Thursday night in fenway like it was the nineteen ninety nine homerun derby all over again. So why don't you make this move if you're cashman Ashman right now right now and and go for it yeah I think that's a perfectly reasonable stance to take in something that the Yankees are mulling over at this point <hes> and you have two guys and Clint Frazier and Miguel Ghandahar who if not entirely proven big league players you know they've both got big time flaws on the defensive side but they both can really hit and if you're the giants and you're looking to rebuild right now then <hes> you certainly are looking for that type of guy who's going to be major league ready in his under team control for a number of years so they do match up well but if the price is too high rich on the starting pitching <hes> the Yankees happy ability to go out and fortify their bullpen and it's a good bullpen already but I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility that they don't go out and get a starter instead spend some of that capital on relief pitching and understand that in October these days you don't necessarily Sara Lee need great starting pitching to win like it helps I mean if I'm the Houston Astros right now and I've got Justin Verlander and Garrett Cole and Wade Miley his pitch really well this year going into a playoff series. I'm more comfortable than what the Yankees have in. They're starting rotation but <hes> we also know that with those days off and the abundance of them in October you can really tax the bullpen and writer all the way to the world series and then in the nationally the dodgers you got the nationals. Obviously the cubs and cardinals are locked Dan. They have the same exact record right now. The brewers just a game behind. I mean who who do you think is going to make a move out of out of these groups Jeff. I think all of them make moves it. Just depends on these is of the moves and and you know you look at a guy like Robbie Ray from the Arizona diamondbacks <hes> I think when it's all said and done he's probably doing to move and you wonder if the cardinals are fit there. The Yankees seemed like a pretty decent fit. They're <hes> they're definitely some possibilities. The cubs would love to make a big move. It's tough to say if they have the capital to go out do so and <hes> match up with the mets for example with that windy as and <hes> what they're looking for for him which is a pretty high end prospect and some other value pieces. They're not going to get back what they gave up for him and jared talent and Justin done but I think they could do really well because dodgers are in on that as well <hes> and the Red Sox to the name that's been floated around and <hes> you know the closer. We get to July thirty first more I wonder is he really going to go now. I'm wondering Jeff Jeff passing couple more minutes left here with E._S._P._N.'s Jeff Passan on the Honda insider report on the rich Eisen show I mean does any team. mm-hmm have young arms sitting there and AAA that they're going to say you know what screw it <hes> instead of giving up the prospects for a so-called proven commodity <hes>. Let's let's see if we got a kid who's ready to come up and be dominant and win five six games James and become a a new folk hero <hes> in August September if not October any team have that ability yeah. It's funny. The New York Yankees actually and David Garcia is a guy who started off in April. This year has just dominated his way up up the chain to triple A.. At this point the only five nine he's only one hundred seventy pounds but he's got a big fastball and a really good curve ball and I don't know if he's going to come in as a starter necessarily but if the Yankees don't trade him and they really don't have any intention to do that at this point I wouldn't at all surprise me to see him in a multi hitting sorta firemen relief for all <hes> the the Oakland A.'s have A._J.. PUCK coming off of Tommy John Surgery and in the as right on the cusp of that wildcard spot right now so <hes> they could theoretically fortify their rotation with him as the Houston Astros thought that they were GonNa have forest Whitley who came into the year is the top pitching prospect in baseball but he's been a mess all year long and I I don't think he's GonNa get traded necessarily but the the hope that Whitley was going to be there to join coal and Burland or just as not bearing fruit so last one for you Jeff Crystal Ball it most likely maneuver involving the biggest name player over the next two days would be what the peg it. Here's a Jeff Jeff if you peg it. I'll replay it and say you if you don't this never happen. How does that sound that? That's that's really how life works for. Let me be your battery made here. This is my backstop for you here so fire away fire away. This is total old takes exposed material right there yeah but I don't care. We shouldn't care about that stuff. Don't care don't care as long as you're giving your honest opinion. That's all you're not just doing this just to throw anything against the wall. I'm asking you give me your best prediction if you get it right I'll replay if not this never happened what he got for me. What do you think all right? If I'm if I'm. I'm just throwing something against the wall that I could see getting done. Edwin D as goes to the dodgers okay now the huge dodgers dodgers dodgers need another relief arm. They would like a left handed one and so I believe Vasquez is another another possibility there will smith is another possibility. It looks like right L.. Iglesias from the reds is GonNa move but I think the the real hammer here would be windy as a guy who had a down year but who could really bring a good return for that all right silence is not the last one what are the what are the chances that nothing happens like what are the chances that for the first time in a long time like hardly zero happens that everybody just decides they're not sellers and the buyers just think it's just too expensive and and they're just gonNA stick with what they got. What do you think to be honest? I I actually think that is the likelier outcome here. I was talking with the general manager earlier today. who was saying everybody is so conservative right now? Prospects have never been more valuable teams and everybody thinks more or less the same because they're all operating off the same models and <hes> if that if that holds than <hes> Marcus Stroman may ultimately be the biggest name that gets and that'll have happened on the twenty eighth as opposed to thirty to thirty first and then man my head's edsel everyone will be scratching heads about what the mets are thinking but you know blessing. Hopefully they went some some some baseball games and make the playoffs who the hell knows. You never know <hes> Jeff. Thanks for the call really appreciate it great work as always pleasures always mind rich have the Jeff Passan. Ask Jeff passing on twitter follow my it's a great follow on. That's the Honda insider report once again <hes> brought to you by our friends at the Honda summer spectacular event you can check it out at your local. Honda dealer experienced car buying bliss with a great deal on a pilot C._R._V. or H._R.. V. Or passport that's Honda summer spectacular and it's going on right now Chris Brockman with the news update when we come back. Tari kill spoke over the weekend <hes> remember I said I said I wonder how his son broke his arm. He did not hit on that but he did head on a subject about out <hes> potentially what people thought <hes> well one of the subject matters involving his son and being touched in the chest and also <hes> being <hes> <hes> an E._s._p._N.. Watcher and a Pat McAfee Fan how about Pat McAfee on Thursday night in college football. It's GonNa join us as we we celebrate. We toast him. We we toast him as we should. Under over on the first pissed missile mention Thursday night football got to set that last quarter of thirst I thirst okay fantastic. That's coming up next on the rich Eisen show. Don't you dare go anywhere. Every car comes with its share of stories that Ding in your bumper when you nervously. We picked up your first date. 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That's rock and roll hit it hit it hit the federal live report rock men with the news brought to you by the Honda Summer Spectacular Event Visit Your local Honda dealer inexperienced complete car buying bliss with a great deal on the pilot C._R._V. H._i._V. or passport. That's the Honda summer spectacular and it's going on right now Chris. So is your news update. What do you have over there? You want to hit tyreek Hill. I sure you know I think we should we should discuss tyreek hill. He spoke to the media over the weekend. Yeah <hes> he talked about how he's a different person or he's going to use this. I guess non suspension as a new lease <hes> and many of the questions that were asked asked him were fan related or nobody asked him the specifics he did say that he couldn't talk about specifics of the case. Somebody did finally at the very end of his press conference. Ask him well well what was heard on the on the audio conversation that his wife taped or recorded on her phone Dubai airport and he did say during the press conference that he did not know that that was being recorded until it was released locally by the way in pieces edited right initially which was a whole big to do and rightfully so in Kansas City at any rate you could hear about her saying to him. You know you hit our son in the chest the kids three so somebody asked him like what what what is that about essentially was it playful wasn't hard like what was it about in here was his response because again to me. It's all about this young man's yes. How do you break that right? Well I mean I'm trying to find that but everybody has reported as it has been found by the authorities in Kansas City to be an accident when I get that all out this is what tyreek had to say like. I said I I really can't get into that but <hes> <hes> that would probably refer me teaching myself how to box we do that <hes> boxing gloves <hes> at our house and I was like he's like iron man so he loves Ironman Aquaman. He's like Daddy. Come on. Come on come on all the time so as that's what it is man and you know sometimes things get thrown out of context you know when feelings get involved and emotions but I don't get into all that right now so thank you guys. I love you Cheetah back man. Thank you for the support piece kingdom. I love you like I said I'm going the price each and every day reporters may authorities phrase. It's going to be somebody testimony one day. I'm telling stories crazy. It's going to be somebody's testimony one day again. All the reports that you're seeing out of Kansas City there is right it is crazy. The League could not determine if he hit if he hit the child and it has been determined that he did not break the child's arm and I'm surprised that they did not sit him down based on him telling the mother of his child that she better be terrified him to even though listening to the context it could be taken like she should be terrified of him because he's going to tell the truth about her lies one day. Perhaps that's what could have been headed that way. I would counsel everybody to listen to the full eleven minute audio but there's a lot of people that still think he shouldn't be playing football but he spoke just wanted to update everybody on that. What else you got over there? We got some Ezekiel Elliott rumor updated ready for this one Kevin Turner of one. Oh five three the fan down in Dallas says breaking I don't normally dabble in the breaking news field and this may not even qualify source tells him Zico Elliott headed to Kabo all hashtags Tony Romo Tony Romo style says Zach will not be. I Wanna I'd I'd. I don't want to comment on that could be trained to be I don't I don't even want to have a look. I'm telling you week one. He's there in the backfield and if not it'll be a hell of segment. I don't even know how I would eat that. Mike had put in stew or sandwiches but I'll tell you what man it's I understand. It's a business and he understands that that next steps a Lulu and without him the cowboys ability to win a super bowl all is very compromised indeed but he is under contract and this is a team that has stood by him through a lot so the emotions are going to get frayed. I'm sure there's there's GonNa be some conversations between the Joneses and and <hes> Iraqi arsenault and those represent him and it's going to it's going to get done and I just don't WanNa comment if he goes to Kabul. I don't even want to go there until he goes there. So what else do you Chris all right. <hes> other running back news Sean mcvay talked about Todd Gurley and how they're handling him this train. Oh Gosh there'll be some days that dependent on his workload and like we say Gary Looking Towards Carolina game. We might look at look looking at him as the way we've treated. Some of those veteran players you know todd really has kind of become a veteran players well so you could see you know the workload from day to day be be alternated based on kind of what we give from the G._P._S. tracking system and and really how he's feeling most important chevy worried as a todd gurley fantasy owner yes you should. I have no idea it's going to look like the last thing McVeigh's going to tell you is like you know they'll be todd girlies workload by the way a a great fan of an asleep or fantasy team right now certainly if you've got if you've got him yeah. He's my number one keeper until I see him. Go out there. Let's see week one the ran I mean talk about a tough assignment week one at Carolina so here comes keithly with Gerald McCoy Oy up front to try and clear this face form here. He's gotTa run into that Defense Week one in home for Saints Cleveland until I see girly do is you know multiple touchdown catching running thing until July seeing him with a fifteen twenty carry game doing his thing on. I need to see it and the last thing that they're going to do right now is say yeah. You know. We're GONNA limit them. We're GonNa Limit Him and let you know that you know that he might be you know midway through some sort of recovery but nobody wants to talk about it now. I know so what else you got over there Kris K. so a saw this this morning we love Pat McAfee we had him on where we at the combine. He came in and both times there was a Monday night football opening in the booth and the rumor started once get pat on their Hashtag Hashtag. We were kind of spearheading that great hashtag trending nationally didn't get the job didn't get the job other bigger and tests bogin tests up there but it's baby steps right. It's baby steps so breaking this morning. Adam schefter broke it Thursday night college football pat McAfee in the booth. Yes with Adamant Matt Hasselbeck. Molly McGrath out on the sideline so pat is in the booth E._S._p._N.. There's college football. You believe that is the man on the line right now. On the Horn Patrick Congratulations Pat L. little voice very excited about what happened today for my life very pumped up for Thursday night and I will forever forever and ever be indebted to you guys for launching that McAfee for Monday night football run. We didn't get it would have been an aggressive Greco decision but Thursday nights would be just as fun. I can't thank you enough. Thanks for having me on. How are you guys? I'm doing great pat. I'm I don't is America ready for Pat McCarthy on on a on a level like what you're about to bring pat. What do you think rich rich? Just you know my mom's been sick to me for like two decades now right. He's had me for too much of her. Life is America going to feel the same way as my mom's. We're all hoping not for sure. We're all hoping opened. That isn't the case but I do believe what you mix. In a little Matt Hasselbeck who has an incredible brain for football good friend of Mine Adams going to do an incredible job guiding the train down the tracks and I'm there just to add you know little quips. Let's little bit of knowledge in the fourth down a little bit of Chitter chatter about students sections and things that are happening and my job is just to make sure that people have a good time when they watch the game on Thursday nights and had a little knowledge but we'll people hate me. I assume so I mean I assume that's going to happen. Come on Pat. You're you're America's sweetheart. We all know that but so are there going to be any time that you give <hes> a little bit of <hes> experience of your time at West Virginia <hes> trying to sell Bill Polian <hes> about <hes> whether you're able to hold or punt and kick and all of that stuff pat. Are you going to be able to. I think it's GonNa be a big do as I say not as I do type situation you know I mean I lied the Bill Polian. I told that story right here on the beautiful richeisenshow before you became a bleacher report live show by the way congrats on the big move. Thank you pat that thank you would not I would not hope that the young kids of today would follow my lead in that that particular realm but I got a chance to be a part of one of the greatest college football teams of all time I got a chance to ride coattails into very cool situations. We had a lot of celebrating. Obviously we want a lot and I think I'll lean on those experiences often in the Games and yeah I think I am very pumped did be back in College Football World Jimmy The Passion <hes> the Games the environment just everything's awesome the history the tradition and I think it's GonNa really teaming up nicely for my type the personality and my brain <hes> but we'll see how it goes obviously than you and you and Matthew are are <hes> you go way back to the colts. Colt stays together right in Hasselbeck. Matt Hasselbeck was my first ever guest on my local newspaper newspaper show I had here <hes> he attended the red carpet premiere here in Indianapolis on my first standup Special Matt Nai Chit chatted about Lice often. He's a good friend of mine and I think he was a pretty big driving driving force in this whole thing coming to be to be honest. I think he pitched hard for me to join them. In there and <hes> I'm pumped up man he's big and bald and he's very smart. He has an incredible resume. <hes> and I hope I can draw and things out of that brain of is that really put him over the top and calling Games 'cause I love that man and <hes> it'll be an honor to get back in. There won't be showering. Obviously I don't think we'll be sweating <hes> but it'll be nice get back in the locker room with Matt Hasselbeck. Get out there in the trenches and really want some games too serious question though patter you given up everything else that you're doing or you still do it. Your your show. Oh no rich ho no we <hes>. I was GONNA go kick for an N._F._l.. Team I was GONNA go place kick for an N._F._l.. Team I was asked <hes> if I wanted wanted to get back into the world and since I didn't get the Monday night football gig or any networks are really reaching out to me. I was like all right. I'll just go back to the N._F._l.. Jason went so I thought I was going to go back. Kick some balls place kick for a team <hes>. <hes> put it for through a full couple months training and then I went and did a stretch that's for the team basically kicking a bunch punting and kicking off a bunch and <hes> while I was on the plane back home. This is like two and a half weeks ago while I was on the plane back home. Might I need that. I got surgery on my last year in the N._F._l.. It just ballooned out of no way it was like in Tonio Brown coulda hopped on the bottom of my my knee and fluid into Napa Valley Twenty four miles away for training camp. I mean it just blew up and I couldn't even get up to go pee on that plane and it was a nice peaceful moment of closure for me that I performed well but it seems as if my body has other plans and I texted my people because you know I have people now big time and I said Hey I think we're getting back in the media world and they said sounds good get ready for a whirlwind so the last couple of weeks have been just trying to figure out the fall schedule and right now. Everybody liked me. Everybody's made deals may have been shaken a lot of hands but nobody got me exclusively because they didn't like me that much coach so I I mean I'm going to have a pretty busy fall but I'm very excited for it okay but I'm your podcast are. Are you still doing that or that's going to be under the E._S._p._N.. Banner Pat Are you all in. That'll be a part of PAT McAfee. Thank my brother Yeah. Hey Hey hey dada bad little negotiate very very very simmons like Pat. I mean they're very you know. Normally you go lock stock and in every barrel but then again you know we're talking about for the brand a lot of the conversation on your show not very <hes> very worldwide leader brand like sometimes I don't. I don't think of passport to fun and Disney sometimes. When I'm on your program Pat I mean you can get the bunny pass or whatever it is and listen to my show? I talked to adults about adult things but I nobody really wanted to. Everybody liked me. Some getting a lot of great deal offers like for instance E._S._p._N.. The main <hes> and I'm very lucky for the opportunity to give me but they didn't want me forever right. Also it was like yeah we like him for this smutty so does this so. I'm getting a chance to do my own thing still while getting incredible opportunities to Kinda hopefully do well and <hes> we'll see how it goes but fall. There's going to be a lot of McAfee rich. There's going to be a lot of McAfee and I think I'm GonNa get sick and me but no man so. Have you re revealed which team you were. You were flying and and working out for pet. Have you revealed that is that is that a mini Pat McAfee reveal yet well I mean I refuse to say the name of the team because I don't want to give it up but it's like the third largest city in America. Yeah I had a little bit of picker scituate and is it named nicknamed it named after an animal. There's a nickname of an animal that you can sometimes see an zoo Pat Yup big scary one the big scary one <hes>. If you run into it in in the woods it's probably gone through your garbage <hes> but it's also lavoie animal and last year they had a little bit of a kicking situation at the end of the year old. Don't don't <hes> and they're kicking consultant. They hired tired of kicking consultant. He was my kicking coach back in the day and he just asked me he's like hey you ever think about place kicking because I was a place kicker in college all time leading scorer at West Virginia. No big deal was on a great team but I wasn't good enough have to kick in the N._F._l.. I learned that after watching Adam venit terry but after kicking with Viteri for eight years and getting a chance to kind of learn from the greatest of all time my cocoa picking up pretty good but the only people that knew it where the people that read our practice restored know me from before so the that situation with the Lions and tigers and the it really my coach is a d. coordinator there and my kicking coach was there talk and they're like hey you think you still got it. I gave it a go and then they said No. You are not so I'm disappointed in that. I think hindsight I'll be upset with my knee but right now just hitting the ground running with the media stuff well pat. I'm so excited for you. You know what they should do. They should send you into a college campus a couple days before you're going in there to do the game and they should dress you up like the sort of like Knoxville like he did <hes> as the elderly gentleman kicking kicking balls and just send you out got into campus doing all sorts of stuff and seeing how the kids react to you I mean I'd love to see that I'd love to see you know you with the marching band just be impact McAfee on a college campus. I think would be amazing before here in your <hes> your stylings in the booth. I can't wait but it'd be great rich. Hey we might put you on the payroll there for your brain. Those are good trade of content ideas right there. I used to be on the new bleacher report. I know it's still I mean look <hes> I used to be on the payroll there for seven years. Pat You know <hes> and I also know the guy exactly who is the one who's GonNa call you up. If you say something a little add a line I know exactly that and know that office actually very well. I've been in that position. What is the what is the proper way to go in there you just kind of go in there like at the principal's office head down to wear nice suit? Did you go in and just go. I know I know I promise I get it. That's it those words. That's it you know I've been called into the principal's office at my last profession and I did not handle it in that I think I think I'll learn from the past and hopefully the future will be you and Hasselback are going to be great. Man Great people good dudes in <hes> congrats Bud congrats. Hey I appreciate you all so much. <hes> you're so kind to me you allow me on the air. You've been pushing me for a long time and the call you gave me earlier. Today is one that will carry near and dear to my heart forever and I can't thank you enough man congrats on everything all of your success and hopefully I won't be getting called into the principal's office for making any dumb Isan moves but I'll be excited to see how it goes okay and I just wanted to. I appreciate it anytime you need me. Pat On there for you as you know and I just needed to get you on the phone before I got the the <hes> the drill of I gotTA. I gotta ask the E._S._p._N.. People if it's okay to go on your show so I had to get in while they get good pat. I didn't even think about that. I didn't even think about that happen for sure. Sorry then that's your first again. I know I know I promise I get it. That's it that's it. That's good that's it. I'm in so much trouble a lot to learn here with these big network stuff but hopefully we'll navigate through you know you the best every once in a while blind squirrel find it not that's one for the best chat soon pat about brother. You're you're the man cheer Pat McAfee everybody. I've just been told however many <hes> Pat McAfee is no longer in the Thursday night man. He's going to do a podcast with Bill Polian yeah. It's very odd called lying to your boss. He told police he could do. I could do all that sure you want me to special teams. I could do all that. I've been a hole there before telling you man. That's GonNa be fun. That'd be great. 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I'll tell you whose idea that was now. You know there's no way that it wasn't his idea. I'm telling you if you had told anybody E._S._p._N.. When I was there J. LO would be front and center on Sunday night? Baseball would be like what what are we doing a show now. I know fake acting surprise. Stop that actually might have actually been surprised no chance but guess what definitely not much thought put into the cake because it doesn't even say Alex at happy birthday like somebody just like with the Shah's Shaw's shop. What's the closest? What's what's what's the what's the closest New England to fenway the New England Grocery Store Shaw's and shopping save that they take yeah? Maybe they got it. The CITCO the corner right near CITCO. We know that the CITCO actual CITGO CITCO took the T.. There is a seven eleven right on the corner right. There wasn't the cake boss well. We're talking about food. Man versus food. Hey latest episode is Tuesday nights. It'll be tomorrow night at ten. 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Hour 1: Bob Wischusen filling in

The Stephen A. Smith Show

38:18 min | 1 year ago

Hour 1: Bob Wischusen filling in

"On ESPN news there are plenty of clouds in New York City right now and it's GonNa start raining anytime and they've already rained out game four between the Yankees this is the Stephen A. Smith Show podcast day city don't let those pictures on television fully if you're watching pinstripe glasses way of looking at their situation this season was who are they gonna get Madison Bumgarner stay in San Francisco right who are they gonna get Matt Madison Bumgarner didn't change teams Noah syndergaard didn't change teams Marcus stroman might have been the best starter available at the think back to Houston but we'll get to how the you know the rotation set up in just a second I'm looking at this more Wide Angle Lens and that is seasonal loan in a silo for the Yankees the criticism that took of not getting a horse of a starter at this year's trade deadline was probably unfounded the New York so there was no opportunity for the Yankees to get a game changing franchise changing front of the rotation horse of a starter this year he's find themselves in now paying the Piper for a philosophical decision they made as an organization three years ago and it is still coming so when you look at where the Yanks are right now down to one and I think hurt by the rain out because their bullpen is now gonna be called upon and four days in a row in one of those starts is going to be by their bullpen that's a big problem for them they're going to need length out of their starters trade deadline this year he went to the mets right cranky was never coming to New York he goes to Houston he was never going to be a Yankee was never going to and we're gonNA prove to you that we don't need these frontline horse starters to be teams in the playoffs they got around one doing that but now they have run sue the exact roadblock that you knew was going to be eventually waiting for them in the and it's funny because this season if you look at this van radio presented by progressive insurance quote by and save on Home Insurance with Progressives homequote explorer only at Progressive Dot Com we're on ESPN news we're on channel he on Sirius. Xm Our telephone lines are open at eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six that's triple eight say espn and obviously in a way they have not gotten from anyone other than Tanaka to make sure that they're bullpens got some gas in the tank when they face verlinden coal if they can get early on ESPN APP and on Espn Radio and glad you could be a part of today's program we're going to get as many calls as we possibly can and our number one 'cause we're GONNA hit back to potentially haunt them in the postseason the narrative for the Yankees all season was analytics bullpen and our big Bopper of Aligned football and baseball and our number two Ryan Clark will join us at the top of the next hour at about two thirty eastern time we'll talk to Tim Kirkman about the Al Be Oh and the ESPN APP we're going to kick it right off with straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless and to me that's straight talk involves the LCS and the situation that the Yankee the Yankees have made a big that they are now lying in that began they made this bed three years ago for the last three years what you've seen them needed organizational philosophical decision to approach things as we don't have to go overboard to pay free agent starter we don't have to give getting beat by guys got traded this year they're getting beat right now by guys that they didn't go after two and three years ago CBS The rain out for the Yankees rain out for the Astros how it affects both teams that's where all star get some football in and even some calls in before we take our first break because I want to get as intellect Trevor Bauer a couple other guys names that got thrown out there but nobody really game changing Noah syndergaard didn't get traded I don't think anybody's any of you in as I possibly can so it's great day a million things to talk about to be sitting in for Steven A. and Baba shoes in for Stephen here on ESPN and it's funny the philosophical decision as an organization that they made was we don't need the big horse top of the rotation starters going after the difference maker and right now they're getting beat by the team that went after the difference makers now could they still win this series of course they could still win the series way so they have gone after rather than the big time names they've either underbid for guys like Corbin and Kaikal or they haven't been willing to for the mets the sun the moon and the stars for Jacob degrom we don't have to do that we've got this powerful lineup we've got the baby bombers we've got analytics we've got our bullpen we can do it ker than what were you going to do this year and there's no question in the silo of this season that's true but where they find themselves right now they're not Tanaka tomorrow on full rest could come out and blank the astros this thing could be to to the Yankees could find a way maybe to patch it together with their bullpen we can do this a different way well look at the team from the National League that is now in the world series how did they get there they've got the best starting pitching that'd be up a game and forced the Astros to win six and seven so could they pull that off yet they could pull that off but who's picking them to do that right now nobody about the cost to go get the other guys what they've done is they've gotten the J. happens and the Paxton's and the Lance Lynn's of the world rather than confused Marcus Stroman with Zank crankier Justin verlander or Garrett Cole so if you were not going to get a rotation changing difference so yes what's their calling card great starting pitching the guys the Yankees weren't willing to go get when they were available they wouldn't pay the price or organizational gems to get a starter that's got years of control left we don't have to make a trade overlander we don't have to make a trade for coal we don't have to syndergaards and it's almost like the pendulum swung so far in the opposite direction they've got guys that didn't even have a place to play on their team and other paying for it and it's funny because right now you've got the Yankees down to one in a series where it's all about we don't need dominant starting pitching he was pitching against Tanaka. Tanaka is the one guy in the postseason for the Yankees looks like these other guys that looks like the kind of guy organizational way that they have approached this over the past three years that I think right now they're paying for the opposite was true in the one game they won Garrett Cole was on the block a couple of years ago the Houston Astros are willing to pony up the Yankees wouldn't give up clint frazier and mcgilla Newhart so they have they've almost I'm in the National League and they leaned on that starting pitching coming out of their bullpen to get them to the world series how really really good starting pitching that is the exact same thing that happened to them against this team two years ago two years ago they had the pendulum with the Yankees is almost swum completely in the opposite direction now when George Steinbrenner was running things they were known as the team certainly back in owns of the world they're bringing in the big slugging homerun hitters to stick in the lineup with other big slugging homerun hitters thinking the eighties that would throw as many prospects out there to get the hot name and you would see guys come back and haunt them years later and you'd be sitting there saying Oh my God what could they have win with our analytics and are big time lineup and our bullpen and let the other team had the dominant starting pitching and we'll find a way to beat it think about the only game the Yankees have won a start on Friday they've got to win I think the next two games can't go back to Houston thinking you're GonNa be ver- lander in coal both in Houston down by game had Aaron Judge Hitting Fifty home runs as a rookie this unbelievable baby bomber young lineup that was a year ahead of schedule with Joe Girardi right now would you handicap the AFC us which team would you make the favorite up to one with verlinden coastal sitting there you make the Houston Astros the favorite to win the slim neither guy turns out to be a difference maker where it really counts Lance Lynn is a bullpen guy at the end of the season and j happen is one really truly block of starting pitching by a team that went out and got a number one starter Garrett Cole that the Yankees could have had lcs one big star Tanaka got the job done other than that the Yankees bats have gone quiet against which was they sent their horse of starter out their their new L. Duquet they're unbelievably clutch one to era in the postseason make the big trade they're not giving up any of the top of the organization talent to go get the Garrett Coles or the grounds just scoring runs to get our star into the four thinning will get it with analytics and bullpen the rest of the way and we'll figure it out and that is a great if they're unwilling to give up like a clint frazier a couple of years ago wouldn't give them up got to give up talented talent and they have bypass those traits keep running into two years ago couldn't get big hits against dominant starting pitching in Houston last year APPA deadline they trade for J. Happen Land Ace in talk in Tanaka and he got the job done have they won either of these other two games where it's been about a starter barely eking his way into the fourth inning the manager and in the AL CS they were down in Houston just looking for some hits against the ver- Landers Charlie Morton of the world and analytically bolt ending at the rest of the way counting on their big that's now and go back two years ago what was the store what's been the story in had they hung onto all of these guys well now it's almost like they're not willing to give up any of these guys in certain spots to go up I anything materially differently from twenty eighteen to twenty one thousand nine they're big acquisitions have been the Carlos Stanton's the Edwin encarnacion three teams got analytics every team makes at least some decisions based on analytics and at least some decisions based on matchups pretty forty was done but what are the astros what's been the Astros tact the astros taxes being give us those starting pitchers get them in our building get them with that we're good enough we know what we're doing with these guys we can get it done and what did they do they absolutely backed up everything that they said they were going to do spotlight meaningful start in Boston goes out and just gets lit up by the Red Sox and the Yankees are done and the red sox move on this year what are they looking at a row with both guys and now they might be on the verge of winning their Second World Series and three years because they've got these guys at the top of the rotation now look instead give him to us we will take him we will find the Twenty Fifteen Garrett Cole and we'll get him back in the CY young conversation we can the three so far against the Astros and why did they win it starting pitching they want it because they're starter was just flat out better than the a guy that everybody in Hugh in Pittsburgh thought might have been a twenty fifteen flashing the Pan certainly had promise could be Dr People get them with our pitching coach get them in our program we will unlock them we will take these guys a guide in Detroit you thought was done wise after that and in the regular season oftentimes over the Wide Angle Lens yes you do that but a condensed series NFL normally is between winning and losing and I know that right now everybody in the cowboys universe on a daily basis is asking Jerry would solid starting pitcher but nobody saw this coming you know who saw this coming the astros when the Yankees wouldn't give Bandou Har- and Frazier for Garrett Cole triple eight seven nine three seven seven six that's the straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless everything for less only at Walmart and oh by the way for anybody normally tunes they wanted to pay the price a couple of years ago a number two starter really a one a in Justin verlander that the nobody really verlinden was out there was willing to pony up the how we can talk coaching we can talk strategy we can talk playcalling when you take a quarterback and you put him out there on the version of this baked into what they do but the Yankees have made this at least to a certain extent like all about what they do it's all about the bullpen it's we love well I called jets cowboys because I do jets on the radio here in New York a couple of days ago and I saw every single all about analytics it's all about let's just we if we can get a starter through the second time in the order just get them through the fourth inning we can figure it out matchups of what right now frustrates a cowboys fan to no end and it just brought into such focus very kind ear an empathetic voice a guy that really likes to bayview in the warm embrace of cowboys way to win a billion games of the regular season two years ago there were way ahead of schedule last year they were one hundred one team this year the one hundred seven games mono while he played the game may basically had the flu while he was playing the first game so he had zero snaps this season with a healthy because he's not a quarterback whisperer his play calling isn't imaginative enough and then Lo and behold what happens when all of us Adam gays slaughtering him for the first four weeks of the season keeping in mind that Adam Gates played week one with Sam Darnold who had he'll play at a high level where you take quarterback and you put him out there on the field playing in a mediocre level how just that tweak can be the difference in the in their bullpen even the horse starter teams with the Coles the ver- landers don't think those guys are GonNa go out there and throw nine innings so they all have at least got a did they learn their lesson now then no they really didn't approach anything differently after twenty seventeen to twenty eight eighteen and they have not approached who would you rather have the Yankee bullpen or Derek Cole I think you got your answer last night so we'll take a telephone call triple eight say espn nash show again bobble shoes and sitting in for Stephen I know cowboy fans traditionally are used to turning on this show and hearing very sympathetic view of your franchise you know like will they be competitive yes they will be competitive you know why they'll be competitive because they've got a quarterback and I get back going back to the cowboys do and then on the road against the Patriots and the Eagles winners of four of the last five super bowls the jets were forced to start a quarterback and this is where when you get into this should they or should they not pay Dak Prescott argument and how much and should they or should they not fire Jason Garrett Adam Gates now looks imaginative can you believe that Adam Gates now seems to know what he's doing all of a sudden those different personnel packages that you saw through the preseason whoa he got his quarterback back can you believe it can you believe when Sam darnold steps on the field the jets look different can you believe all of a sudden perfectly he said organizations will often fire a coach or fire a manager to give the illusion of change and I think it is a great way to look at organizations with managers with coaches with anybody that is theoretically kind of the we're back before this past Sunday in week two Monday night against Cleveland his backup quarterback breaks his ankle so halfway through the game and we have given up the sun the moon the stars to go get if you knew he was gonna put up a performance like this the postseason so the exact philosophical and the Houston Astros and the later on tonight bobble shoes sitting in for Stephen a on what is going to be a rainy stormy Wednesday afternoon here in New York he has him Luke Falk had never been active for an NFL game before Monday night football than week too much less play NFL game but never been active. It stood Jones about Jason Garrett when you get rid of Jason Garrett is this does he have to go to the playoffs is you have to win Blah Blah Blah and everybody in New York was slaughtering back and healthy and lo and behold the jets win now they're going to beat the Patriots Monday night probably not I mean they're up nine point underdog ten point underdog at home rematch reappear yes of course they reappear because the guy that knows what he's doing and practice since the spring with all of those different personnel packages is on the sideline and a ball cap in Miami is a number three and never got on the never even got on the roster and yet Adam Gaze is getting crushed fire him maybe he's not the answer in Dallas right now it doesn't seem the way his teams play for him or around him as if he really has that locker room in that locker rooms got us back because they're really not able to make the real change that's necessary so you can take Jason Garrett and you can blow them out the door and that's fine how soon or after the season or not at all when you get into that debate something I remember Jeff Van Gundy said there's always stuck with me it had never been in an NFL stadium on a sideline with shoulder pads on before until Monday night when he was called upon as the number three to come in and play another top of the pyramid and whether or not you should fire or not a GM coach manager what have you and Jeff Van Gundy all right the the visuals are not good the fact that these guys don't really seem to be all that excited to come over and whoop on the sideline with their head coach and maybe ten years off and maybe now his message is falling on deaf ears that all might be true and you make the decision to let him go for a cowboy Halley fans may say well it can't be DAX fault tax great we need back he's our quarterback it's gotta be the head coach because the quarterback because we're going to pay a quarterback as we head towards the world series. It's bobble shoes and sitting in for Stephen a the Stephen a Smith Show E._S._p._N. radio and the E._S._p._N. APP has it worked out for the last year and a half for a team that gave thirty two thirty three million dollars to a quarterback it's just flat out not nearly worth that much money so if you WanNa Fire Jason Gary Gordon Fire Him but the reason you're firing Jason Garrett guaranteed lowest prices on top brand name appliances like Samsung L. G. and GE today's the day for doing just pick out the latest models from top brands let the Home Depot the best player at his position in the NFL light he's the best player in his position in the NFL or like he's the best player period in the he said you dumped the coach to give the fans the illusion of change because they don't want to go through the real change and the real changes sitting around mobile app you can manage your Baker policy why never ever looks play with another dog we can just marry a deep in the Ground Bowl super bowl championship he's not a throw an organization on his back and carry them type player but we're going to have to pay him like he eastern part is because you can't fire the quarterback you can't go out and say you know a Dak Prescott not actually good enough to get us to a championship game astros the starting pitching how it's going to shake out I'll have my thoughts on that or if you want to bring up the football you're certainly willing and able to do so and you can head to the home depot NFL which it seems like what be the cow the cowboys may eventually be forced to do with that Prescott buyer beware as a working out in Minnesota is player in the sport and every day that goes by Jerry Jones do that you wonder when push comes to shove how much is he actually going to be willing to time since the early thirties that a world series will be played in DC. We'll talk to Tim Kirch it about that coming up in our number two if you WanNa Talk Yankees WanNa talk the rain out could each other going this guy might actually not be good enough to get us to that level but we can't admit that publicly we're about the pay the eighty siriusxm the ESPN APP ESPN radio ESPN news. On Your television tuner the down and distance podcast hosted by as L. Commemorating the one hundred the rest visit homedepot dot com slash appliances for details the home depot more saving more doing Bob Shoes in for Stephen a coming right back with your calls fiftieth anniversary of college football download subscribe and reviewed down and distance available wherever you enjoy your podcast and by the way all the college football wean download the industry-leading Gyco today you'll see Stephen Smith show podcast bobble shoes for Stephen a channel Tony up we'll get your calls when we come back a triple eight say espn triple eight seven to nine three seven seven six Al Cs and lcs congratulations to the nats I it's just it's it's such quality stuff and you know if you're somebody that's my age you know in the neighborhood of fifty and kind of grew up late seventies I spy can keep spinning scary really scary mixing GEICO's easy to use if you're if you're just a football junkie documentary junkie a college football junkie it doesn't matter you know which element of it appeals to you the most they're just good this and because we have to pay him like he is we have to kind of keep up the charade that it's really the coach's fault so you dump the coach like Jeff on fifty programming that they have put together the America's game series or Saturdays in the south to catch that on the SEC network they're so good I mean they are really afforded back to your childhood it's just it's great stuff we'll hit the phones triple eight say espn triple eight seven to nine three seven seven six start things off with Richard and West Palm who joins us here conscious decision that's made before you ever step in the batter's box that beat beat zoning that first pitch because it might be the best one that you get let's say ESPN ESPN RADIO ESPN long install I've found an adequate curtis is are just very I'm gonNA throw more than three innings at best I mean right now other than Tanaka that almost seems to be the formula for all their starters but they're going to have to approach at least one eighties where college football went to a different place with the advent of ESPN you know the the number of games that would be on your exposure to all these stars you just trans with Severino Paxton over the weekend now that whole plan kind of gets thrown into disarray because now a in game in game four because you can't afford to go down three one and he'll be on full rest so to me that's obvious you're GonNa have Tanaka Cranky tomorrow now the Yankees will have a decision knowing that you have to have a bullpen game in one of these four and be knowing that now you've got no days off you're gonNA play Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday Charlie Ithaca joins US next here on ESPN radio hit. Charlie how are you good hey bob just don't ask you number one obviously with the whole rain those are both very fair again I think this gets a little into the analytics especially when got Garrett Cole on the mound there are I think some analytics that would tell you I think the Yankees and Astros series is clearly one side to the Aso's 'cause the Astros have the pitching actually was cleanly more dominant yet outs if it goes if it goes back to game six and seven in Houston the only one day to workout which teams point you WanNa Yankees one astros in his first two at bats swung at the first pitch and three of his four at bats that's not by accident that's not guys going up there and being completely undisciplined that's gets this thing back to to to I would start the bullpen guys on Friday and try and steal that game on Friday and now you're down three one you may be forced to pitch a Paxton at home just to try and get the thing back to Houston and then then every game becomes earliest being radio there Richard Hi Bob Great to talk talk you you're one of my influences in God Kathy the best pitch you're gonNA see a lot of time Garrett goals the first pitch so encarnacion song right away I think he faced to pitcher today's game forest scheduled for Tomorrow Game Five Games and game five is going to be rescheduled to Friday night and now since Major League Baseball has to make knowing that at some point they have to have a bullpen game at some point they have to have Chad Green is the opener or J. happens the opener where he's not probably I wouldn't make a decision as to what I was going to do on Friday until I play tomorrow if Tanaka goes out there and just shuts them down and you get it to seven and see the Yankees this season I don't think ever pitched a relief pitcher three days in a row much less four days in a row to get to get the to get the big heads and as what happened yesterday he'll have too many men on base could not get the big head Wisconsin scoring position thank you thank you so inconsistent yesterday deedee your glorious they don't want they don't want the car enough Bob the Yankees had the wo- have to look to count more because the Yankees are much more dependent on their bullpen and not having to go four days in a row that becomes a problem so I'll be very interested to see what they do if it were me yeah Carl Gardner up I first and second nobody out even though his batting third sacrifice you're playing against the best pitcher in base knowing that I'm still gonNA see Verlinden coal in six and seven in Houston and I'm GonNa want the two best starters I still have available to myself and throughout the whole season they've given up seven runs in three games most most teams would give would take that in a heartbeat it's the clutch hitting that's that's hurting seven you're down three one now you're playing nothing but elimination gins right so to me I think the result of tomorrow's game is going to I appreciate everything you've said my my feeling is the the starting pitching for the Yankees as taken a lot of heat hey they've done what they've done the world series next Tuesday night and now the teams do not have a full latest travel to get back down to Houston if there's necessarily game

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Thor Returns

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Thor Returns

"Great news. There's a quick way. You can save money. Switch to Geico. Geico could help you get great coverage at a great price. And it only takes fifteen minutes to see if you could save fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Go to Geico dot com today and see how much you could save. These baseball tonight the podcast. It's the baseball tonight podcast for Friday may third two thousand nineteen BUSTER only our producer. Every is Josh macrey. Josh this year done a great job, sending up a video tweet previewing the show every morning and the one you wore this morning, you gotta Durham bulls cap, and I gotta tell you. I'm really jealous. I saw that the other day when you tweeted out a picture then that you'd gotten that that kinda hurt. I mean, I didn't do it to hurt you BUSTER. But it doesn't it doesn't take away from the beauty of that cap. And once again, thanks to a loyal listener old growth at Colorado T R nineteen for sending that my way. I really appreciate it because you're right. It looked really good. Look, really good, man. I got cap envy. And I noticed other people are saying, hey, you ought to get this cap. You ought to get that cap. I get the feeling they're like all these boxes. Descending upon Bristol. Connecticut. Your name on it. We'll see whether minor league cat. Yeah. Well, here's the thing ever. Says get this one get that one. I say, yes, send it to me. Here's my address, and I don't hear back. So I don't know. We'll see we'll see what happens right news notes of the day. The angels announced the show Tanya will soon be activated rat. Awesomeness? The angels manager indicating that he'll be activated before the angels return home on may seventeenth the angels. Play. The Blue Jays last night. Kole? Calhoun got him started in the second inning. Here's the one one this is high. This fall is hip deep in the right center field. It's daring in right center here. Oh, Joe Hoon home run number eight of the season. It's tops on the club. That's the two run shot and the angels. They're on top. It's to nothing Jerry Smith. Angels radio. Am eight thirty. It's an angel's game. So, you know, Mike trout did something three to pitch route. It's one high and he hits this fall out into left center field. Really here. The angels win the game sixty Josh I think you would agree with me. We've now got to that point where there's not a question about who's the best player in baseball. They're not any one really close second in two thousand nineteen. No, yeah. Yeah. And we're here in horse racing season. Mike trout is secretary at the Belmont. He's. Exactly White Sox Red Sox. And the Red Sox took the lead the top of the seventh the kick that you one pitch bouncing ball. Slowly hit left side picked by Anderson. Turns goes to second gets an out there. But one's going to score a fielder's choice RBI and the Red Sox toggle back on top. It is forty three just Lewin w e ninety three point seven FM Ryan brazier took that lead four three in the bottom of the ninth inning. And this is what happened when I wanna del Monaco swinging along on right center field on the boop that detract picks gone three run all sacks. Wade. Win socks laying turnout of fireworks. Dead former on WGN and Josh among the Red Sox losses this year. I think that may have been the worst hurt that one hurt you, you know, they had a decent stretch last week needs start to think yourself. Okay. Maybe they're running around loss. Like that reminds you it just doesn't look like they're year, especially so far in the first half. And coming up Carl Ravitch the Rabbie train whether or not the Red Sox need to step up and make the investment and bring back Craig kimbrel. The nationals beat the cardinals two-to-one and along the way Stephen Strasburg reached a milestone, five and a half back hitches in their strength. Recall curveball Hudson Strasbourg with his eighth strike Stephen Strasburg with these strikeout Tacoma Hudson. Looking into the game was also the one thousand five hundred strikeout of his career. So Stephen Strasburg in one thousand two hundred seventy two and a third innings becomes the fastest. According to the Elias sports bureau to reach one thousand five hundred strikeouts in major league history. That's pretty good Charlie slows in the nationals radio networks. So he had a big moment on a really good day. But right after the game general manager, Mike Rizzo announced the pitching coach, Derek Lilla quest has been fired. We've made a staff change. We've let Derek Lula go as pitching coach we're going to replace him with palman heart are longtime minor league pitching coordinator fourteen years in your organization five years in the as our pitching coordinator in the minor leagues. And probably has has had a has touched each and every nationals pitcher, that's that's, you know, ever hit the mound, and he'll be taking over duties as tomorrow at Philadelphia and. We're excited for him to to start his start his major league pitching coach career. We didn't make this move in a day or weeks. You know, so this was this was something that that Davey and myself have have been been keeping are keeping our finger on the pulse of so the nationals make that change that sound from Massin sports. The Padres blew out the Braves eleven to two with a whole bunch of runs in the middle innings to to tie, France. Hi, fly ball, deep right center field that ball will be off the glove that ball off the wall off a kunas an hour away from the glove and hospital is run along contact the way going into third is high France with an Ivy I triple off the fence and the glove of a kunia in center field that call from Josh. Janet, verbal journey was courtesy of Ted Lightner on ninety seven point three the fan. Yeah. Final score eleven to two the twins beat the Astros. Eight two in the final game of that. Series with help from Jayson Castro and a pitch and that balls hit softly the right center field rennet coming on still coming on. He'll get there. No chance to throw out Buxton tagging up and he scores easily with the six run. So again swing and early and having results. And that's what the twins have been doing this year that call from Dan, gladden and the Treasure Island. Baseball network will be talking with Colorado, which about the twins who have surged to the top of the American League another good team in the AL this year, the raise they played the royals and in the top of the ninth inning. They took the lead. Now, the burly right into ready to go into pitch. Swing and a high fly ball right field back at it is so layer to the track to the wall. It's gone Brandon low with his seventh home run of the season list went over the woman right into the Royal bullpen of seconds after he was just named American League rookie of the month. Here. He is now in may. And he could be the hero today that sound from six twenty w DA Tampa Bay wins three to one the Rockies beat the brewers. Eleven is six by scoring a whole lot of runs early on to pitch. Swing along one deep left center field. This one outta here. Absolutely towering shot to left field to or scored by the Rockies. That from KOA. Centerfield of the day. The game of the day in city field the final game of the series between the Mets and the reds Noah Syndergaard on the mound for the Mets. He was spectacular. And he was also pretty good at the plate synagogue. It's ball decoyed lip weaker going back. He watches it sail. That poem is. Homerun Noah Syndergaard along whole brunt or the opposite field. It was about ten rose up the on the evidence sweet seats and keep left center. That from WCBS Noah Syndergaard, six career home run. Syndergaard was still on the mound in the ninth inning. Which is where the Mets needed to be because their bullpen has been tax. Give a lesson. How they pitch fastball in their strike. Noah Syndergaard has his third career complete game shutout where he did all the heavy lifting both on the now than at the plate. Syndergaard with a four hit shutout the final store that New York. Mets won the Cincinnati Reds nothing. How euros WCBS Noah? Syndergaard talked about the day. Yes. The most. Some are starting to come around for spring. Besides. Just. Simple. And just trusting conviction everything whenever taking plan. Yeah. But does on them. Yeah. He sounded underwhelmed there. He really wasn't in the words. He talked about being close to rock bottom. You could hear that sound on S. And why he was terrific today will be talked with chase utley some great Clayton Kershaw stories in perspective on analytics in whether he'll want to manage someday. Jessica does offer some thoughts in the big weekend series coming up between the cardinals and cubs. Let's get to it. The it's the Rabbie tray with Carl ravage in Colorado. To course, the hosted baseball tonight play by play man for ESPN. And where was the Rabbie trained park yesterday? Carl when Noah Syndergaard was dealing with that great outing against the Cincinnati Reds who. Yeah, it was. It was actually stuck into station which was a great time to be stuck in the station. We watch the entire met game and talking about a pitcher that needed to pitch. Well, there was a lot of questions about Syndergaard and his inability to go deep into a game. And we had seen degrom do really well. And then he kinda faded a little bit back in backing up degrom start with what Syndergaard did and his home. You know, it was funny to me. I don't know if you saw the the end of it when he got his final out. But I'm not sure he was either aware of what inning was or what he had accomplished because his first step was back to the dugout like all, right? Well, I. Did my job in that inning? And I'll be back out for the next inning. And then all of these he realized or or was reminded or just acted a little odd when he got that funnel strikeout of we he didn't he didn't walk towards the catcher celebrate he kind of took a step left. And I was wondering if if anybody else picked up on that or that's his typical move, but a historic outing for a franchise that is going to depend so much on their pitching got got real back to back grade starts from those those guys that was that's crazy. I mean, heck they're their pitchers. We could you know, we'll get into our homerun derby conversation BUSTER, I take for basically any one of their pitchers. We used to order any one of their pitchers could be in it. Yeah. No doubt about it. I mean, he he did everything he took care of business all by himself at a time when the Mets have been struggling, and they they needed him to go deep into that game because their bullpen was kind of a mess. I kind of wondered if he was just sort of dazed from the day like this as you said, this was an outing that he needed this adding that the Mets needed, and you know. It's like a theme for a lot of what happened yesterday to me was was this was a telltale day for a particular team. That was for the Mets, I think the type of Syndergaard that they needed on that day, but also for the whole year, given the fact how top heavy that roster is and those key guys they're going to have to rely on if they're going to have success in this really in the steel cage match of the National League east. Yeah. And and the idea that anybody is holding out hope that somebody like cesspit us who everybody has already forgotten actually plays major league baseball, let alone. What team is on the like he's not coming back. So they're going to they're going to need to get production from the McNeil's of the world and JD Davis is of the world and the occasional home run from Frazier. But in the end, they're they're going to need Diaz to close games and not give up home runs, and they're going to need their starters to give them six plus innings and Syndergaard hadn't been doing that. And he, you know, he basically giving you five plus and giving a four or five runs, and you're wondering like is there is there something in there that that that's going to show itself because look last year for most of the year? He was the best pitcher on that staff. And and degrom was in that conversation for sei-yung. But we we would have conversations amongst the baseball people. If you had one game to start who would you start in a lot of times the answer was Syndergaard last year. Wimpy. It wouldn't be this year. Intil? He did what he did yesterday. And your your point is very well made, you know, there are certain things that you look at with these teams in the NFL east and say this has to happen or they will not be part of the steel cage match. They will they will be thrown off the island to use another analogy of the two thousand there. They'd be done they need Syndergaard and degrom and mats and Wheeler to pitch really well or we can eliminate them. And then you can move to the Phillies and the nationals and the other teams that are battling the Braves for supremacy in that division. They're in easy one. You know, that there's not a lot of variables that, well, if this happens, they'll be okay. I mean, that's a simple one with the New York Mets those guys after perform, and that was one of those starts where you're reminded what the potential of the team can be and then because a lot of things that that should have. Gone right over the last couple of years with the players that were hurt are going, right? Like Conforto 's hitting the trades. Have the trade has worked out pretty well. You know as long as Kono's not getting get on the wrist. He's been productive player there. There've been Gina Alon pita Lonzo off to a great start. You know, we've been an MVP. NBC? Yeah. A hundred percent, you know, they they've had a lot of things go, right? But you're right. It's got to be with that rotation. I think that's the case with the Washington nationals as well. Which is why it was a bit of a surprise yesterday when Mike Rizzo stepped out of their clubhouse and announced the reporters that they fired pitching coach Derek Lilla quiz because you don't see that sort of move made in early may. But maybe that's where the nationals are at this point where they feel like you know, that bullpen we got a lot of questions there. We've had some health issues with their everyday guys we have to have success out of this rotation. And it hasn't been as dominant as we expected. What do you make of that? Yeah. Well, I agree with it. I think that you would agree with me. And that none of these decisions like that are made in vacuum that there has to be some consultation with some of the stars on the team not to mention the manager that would that would allow Rizzo to do that. I think also it's another, you know, great reminder that the tolerance level for mediocrity. There is not it's it is hero. So if our pitching is not doing what we believe it's capable of as an organization meeting friends facing, Mike Rizzo, and then all the other people within that analytics department front office. We realized like this has to improve in order for us to be you know, a team that can compete with the others. And and and while I think sure and certainly Strasbourg have been good. There's been there's been enough parts of the equation that haven't developed or delivered. That little Quist. I it's almost as if she was your and Strasbourg there are certain givens. And we know that they're going to be okay. But we need, you know, we need the young we need. Eric Feddie to deliver weenie Joel Ross to figure this out. We gotta make Patrick Corbin comfortable of I'm not in love with the way that their bullpen has been constructed. And I think a lot of times coach scapegoat, but the margin for error doesn't exist. And I think that's my, you know, Paul men hard who's worked with some of these kids coming up in their in their careers is the change. And it's the same thing BUSTER we talked about what the Red Sox going into the season on on a shaky it up front office guys opposed to break it up. Meaning I would never bring back and entire team. I would shake it up. And this may be just the shake that the nationals need they didn't break everything up. They didn't don't everybody. They just shook it up, and I'm I'm. In favor of a shakeup versus break-up when it comes to a team. Yeah. And I'd love to know. And I don't think we'll ever know. Exactly. How much of a factor this situation played into this decision? But I'd love to know what happened with Trevor Rosenthal its impact on this decision. Because as you know, jerick Lilla Quist was formerly the pitching coach of the Saint Louis cardinals were Trevor had some of his early career successes. He went away at an injury problem came back by all accounts. He was throwing great during the course of the, you know, the off season workouts, and then this spring, and you would assume that during that process they were consulting with Derek Lilla quiz. Hey, what do you see in? Trevor what do you believe in what he thinks going to happen with them? How do you think that's going to go? And he was a total disaster. Let's face it, you know, questions about whether or not he's got some hips. And and maybe part of the nationals thinking is is look if Derek can't connect with the guy he knows then maybe that's an issue. But they they turn the page early in the season. Mike. Brazil was very complimentary of Lilla Quist in terms of him handling the news afternoon. Like a professional saying he was surprised, but he disagreed with the decision. I think it also speaks to the level of pressure on the national their coaching staff and manager Dave Martinez. We've seen that team changed managers among contending teams change managers more than any other agreed it I mean, look the dusty Baker thinks still to me as a question Mark only only because the team wants, you know, you can have philisophical differences or personality clashes. But when the team is winning and getting into the playoffs and competing for divisions that to me, that's that's never retired for a change. And I think you know, you just with the little quiz thing. And maybe what we're seeing with you know, we fall back on doing and poor. But certainly Rocco ball deli. Now what he's done Kevin cashes in that conversation. The the Eduardo Paresh theory on being a hitting coach is look you you you're you're basically short order of. Cook twenty five different players have twenty five different opinions about what they wanna do. And you've go to address each and every one of them is not a blanket that you can put on. So as prospering said, we we have as many pitching coaches as we do pitchers. We're all our own coach. I think that kind of thinking is reserved for veterans and guys that have been around a long long time. And I think this new front office analytics driven group are looking for a little more hands on approach, and I think Lewis probably got caught in a little bit of a vortex there, and they're going to need somebody to literally say two Trevor Rosenthal. He here is what works we need you to figure out how to throw this. We will help you do that. But these are the pitches we wanna throw in these counts. Because all the numbers suggest just is the pitch. And you know, you you will either get on board and execute we'll go in a different direction. I think that's part of this too. No doubt. And you can tell that from what Rizzo was saying when he was lauding men hard. And why he was promoted in this position. He kept on talking about communication in the nature of the communication, right? Carl. Speaking of pitching, I wanna talk to you about Madison Bumgarner, we touched on it a little bit yesterday with Sarah about his strong performance against the dodgers on Wednesday night. One run allowed in six innings. He generated eighteen wings against the dodgers, and Sarah sent out on Twitter that it was all of those mis wings run fastballs. It was the most that for him in any starts in September of two thousand sixteen. So a checked with Bruce Bochy yesterday the giants manager about Bumgarner. And he texted back that he through with more conviction. He believed in his fastball more and that certainly was reflected in the usage. Because in the early starts this year. Bumgarner had been thrown about thirty five to forty percent fastballs in that start the other night. He was about sixty percent. His fastball velocity was ninety one point nine miles per hour. Bow what he was. Throwing back in two thousand fifteen when he was absolutely at his prime. And I was thinking about sort of the developing feeling about him in the industry that you know, what maybe his stuff is in regression. Maybe this is a pitcher who's in regression. And and I wonder if they ought to look back at what happened with Cole hamels last year as maybe an indicator that or good precedent to look at and ask the question part of what's been going on with Bumgarner might also be because the giants have been so bad. And this is someone who's demonstrated throughout the course of his career. He's so good in high pressure moments. He's so good when there's a Drennan when the teams involved in a race when they're involved in an important game. Cole hamels had a four seven two year. Eight for the Rangers last year coral in his first twenty starts in as you know. There wasn't a lot of interest in him in the trade market. And I remember seeing him in the cubs clubhouse right after he went to Chicago in that trade. He had the biggest grin on his. Faced. He was so happy. It was like he'd been rescued from purgatory guy who pitched in the biggest gain as in baseball. And he'd won the biggest games in baseball. And he was tremendous two point three six or eight for the cubs down the stretch. Probably surprised them to the Ray that they want to picking up his option for two thousand nineteen Madison. Bumgarner is not thirty five. He's twenty nine years old. He's only I'm a yeah. I have found the contender. And I'm looking at him. I'm not like looking at Clayton Kershaw with his fastball velocity haven't dropped five miles per hour. I might be looking at a pitcher who might need to be rescued input put back into situation where he's pitching in meaningful game. So you buying it. Well, I think his competitive nature satisfies that. Yes. I also, you know, look at Bumgarner and look at the organization and bogies leaving there that there is somewhat of a changing of the guard there, and he would be one of the longest associated faces with that organization the same way Posey would beat. But because of that I wish and would love to see Bumgarner leading the giants into the next whatever the next peak is going to be I think just just kind of reading some of the quotes that that he had after his last start about feeling night and day difference and far on Zaidi getting all excited about his spin rate. And he talked about grip pressure on the baseball. Because after hurting his hand, he couldn't do that that there are sure there are a lot of signs that point to his being incredibly effective. But he's one of those guys that I looked at the name on the front of the uniform and say he he needs to be part of. The giants. Resurgence to see him wearing a whatever Braves uniform or Phillies your form. We'll take a little while for me to feel comfortable with it. He he has become so Representative of that organization. And and kinda that quiet still it, you know, I wear my boots every my lunch pail, and we're going to go, and and see you this thing out that that's the type of personality. You know to me you need when you're trying to get this thing. Right. I I need somebody who's going to put on his tool belt and go in there and just hammer for, you know, eight hours and never complain about it. Sure would Bumgarner be welcomed at any one of the teams cities and in their clubhouses that are battling for that. Yeah. But I think we all have experienced Bumgarner. And that you know, he his comfort level in the giant clubhouse his role and responsibility on that team. He's an interesting one to bring to a new clubhouse. I think he'd fit I think he'd be great. But you know, yes. And no on on your question. I gosh. I wish you could wish you could stay there and do well and that team could start doing well. And I get the reality of where they are in that division and everything, but he's not the first guy that would jump out being if we get into trade talks and think like a perfect fit perfect fit Atlanta personal fit with the cubs. He he's he's a winner. And all that. But boy, he's a giant to me in every way. Yeah. And you know, what he's a free agent year's end. And they certainly have the option of signing two in extension. They also would have the option of flipping him in the trademark it kinda like doing what the Yankees did with the role chaplain. Exactly where you flip them in the trademark, and you get a couple of prospects. And then you go after her main free agency I was looking at this yesterday. If you compare the first seven starts of is in two thousand fifteen when that was the aerobically prime Bumgarner, they're almost identical to what he's done in. His first seven starts this year. Forty three thirds innings his ex pip almost identical three point five ninety two thousand fifteen three point six three and two thousand nineteen. I think he's got a lot of mileage left in that tank Karl, no doubt, no doubt. And I think, you know, look your premise of being in a different city in on a team that scoring runs where there is a little fire. I mean that wheelhouse. I'm not denying that or suggesting. Yeah, he wouldn't be able to thrive in that. The the dude is as big a competitor is I've seriously as I think we can say we've covered over the course of our careers when it comes to big games postseason head down. What's my job? I'm going to go. Do it. And if I have to slay a dragon, I'm going to slay a dragon. You know, you can you can throw me right into game of thrones. Like we did four and he's not guy. There's not a lot not a lot of complaining. So yeah, I get the idea of different environment heat, and he would bring a ton of electricity. But again, he he is so symbolic and Representative of that that city like could you see Bruce bocce managing somewhere else or or has is he a giant, and we're kind of done here. Yeah. Buster Posey's same way. Right. I it would it would hurt him a little bit. It'd be it'd be like seeing Cal ripkin move to another team during his Backley. And so I yeah. And it might be as they say that they just flipped them in trade. And then bring it back in about Bumgarner and sign him after the season. Alright. A few more quick ones before you go. I felt like that the series the twins had against the Astros. That was a statement series to me Mark are tweeted at us will you please check. My math the twins. Magic number is one hundred and thirty one I didn't take the time to do that Karl, but I will buy into the idea that this week felt like an important series for that team. Well, isn't it funny? That all you know, I wouldn't say all of a sudden, but we've kind of been in love with Jose burritos we were with in Puerto Rico. We we kind of knew what he was capable of. And we see it come through against the Houston Astros Jonathan scope and Jason Castro both are kind of cast off from their organizations and now and now are contributing in a big way. And here we are having this conversation about a team who was picked to be competitive. But. Certainly not get off to the start. They've gotten off to taking free or four from the Astros on their way to New York with another manager who has very little if any experience as a manager. And and you know, we're we're kind of being reminded that this formula has shown itself to work in recent years with the Astros with the Red Sox with one hundred wind Yankee team and all of a sudden now here come here comes the twins, and they're beating Verlind or with Jake odor, easy. And then again today may third is the pieces of working the offense is killing the ball. Buxton hasn't really been Byron Buxton yet. Nelson. Cruz hasn't really been Nelson Cruz, but next Kepler is hitting that they were really kind of neat fun team to watch. And when you go back to the offseason, some of those acquisitions Marlin Gonzalez is one of those where you looked at. Twenty nine other teams instead who wouldn't want Marlin Gonzalez on their team cause everything he's been so important to the Astros. And it was the twins who went out to get a win Gonzales, like make sense every everything about that move make sense. So those types of things and the idea that you take three or four from a team most believe will be in the World Series, the stroz, especially after losing eleven nothing. You know, they they have the they have the forget thing going really, well, they don't they don't carry a loss with them into their next game. I think maybe they've lost back to back games once all year. So they're really they're really good at that. And not letting it get them down. And you know, what a big series? You know, I know a lot of people are focused on the cardinals it cost. But this is a serious going into New York. Even though it's depleted Yankee team, you you go Astros Yankees. And you know, let's say you win. I don't know they just took three or four they take. They take two of three. Three here. So you're going, you know, five of seven against those those teams that that'd be that'd be pretty impressive on your resume. Yeah. That would be a statement week. No doubt about it. I think you, and I would both agree. And we talked yesterday about the Indians and their quandary moving forward. A wanna get for besides set that set aside the Indians who are clearly in trouble. Give me a two thousand eighteen playoff team. That's in serious trouble in two thousand nineteen and I'll start us off. I'm going to tell you. I think the brewers are in some trouble here of five point two. Oh, ERA their games against the Rockies demonstrated this week. You know, what they're pitching on a lot of days has just not been competitive and they've gotten beaten up they certainly have dealt with a number of injuries. David Starnes done a phenomenal job running that team making the Christian yelich trade. But I kind of wonder if they went into the year believing that in the past. Yeah, we figured it out. And we'll find a way again kind of like for years Andrew Freeman. I felt like when he was head of baseball ops with raise and then he went to the dodgers. I think he. Began to believe that. Yeah, I'll find a solution. And then he would have a year or two or maybe he didn't. I think that if you were to look at team that needs a pitching Jek jecklin, whether it's a Craig kimbrel or a Dallas kaikal. I put the brewers at the top of the list because I I just don't see that group of pitchers of being able to sustain the brewers in a what is clearly a very competitive National League central. Give me a team that you feel like two thousand eighteen playoff team. That's in trouble. Well, you know, having just been up to Fenway park and seeing them play. And and look they had a they had a pretty good series. And they go to Chicago and lose on a on a walk off Homer last night. I I really I'm I'm skeptical about the Red Sox because of the Yankees when they get healthy. And because of the raise what we were Tim, and I word oh did that game BUSTER the building was incredibly flat team played and whether that was referred. Election of the Bruins and Celtics currently being in second round action in the postseason a hangover from all the success that not only the Red Sox have had. But all those teams up there. There was just a consistent flatness even in a in a game. They won. I think they want nine to five or nine to four and it felt like they had lost four to one like there. There was no joy and mud. Ville in any of it. And I'm not suggesting they can't figure that out. But but for that that night and what has been this season? There's been very little joy. And I think I would look at the way that last night's game finished where you have Ryan brazier giving up a walk off home run. And you compare it to some of the other teams and other things Minnesota Tampa Bay the Yankees for a while there where everything that went right for the Red Sox last year. If you look around the majors, those things are going right for other organizations and the things. That never went wrong for the Red Sox last year. Many of those things are going wrong this year. They're fielding has been terribly inconsistent. Denver's has made nine errors their bullpen has shown itself to be very solid at times. And yet and yet it's not like Craig kimbrel is walking through that bullpen door. Where even on the rocky nights? You still felt like that game was going to end with the Red Sox winning. Now. I think you get into the seventh eighth and ninth inning and was good. As workman has been Barnes his bid and brazier has been it's still not one of those where you feel like game over that, you know, that they're up four to forty two it's automatic. And I think all those all those factors. Go into me being a skeptical about that team that won the World Series last year getting back to the postseason this season. Given all that gimme thirty seconds on this before we finish. If you were John. Henry would you be basically calling Dave Dombrowski and say go sign Craig kimbrel on a one year deal? Bring him back for one year. Let's invest in it. Let's try to make this team better. Would you do that? I think I think your point in my answer are the same. I end the nationals who prove our tolerance level and our ability to be mediocre for a longer period of time. He's over we're going to get new pitching coach year. And if that doesn't work we'll do something else. The brewers shifts the brewers should signed Kyko in my opinion, and the Red Sox should sign Kimball. So the answer to that question is yes. And I I do think we get into me. It's time to put up or shut up. Let's make decisions let's make moves. And let's see where it goes as opposed to waiting any longer. Right raby. Thanks for doing. This always great to talk with you. Have a great weekend. So you boys, we'll be back in a moment with Jessica Mendoza. But I I wanna tell you about ZipRecruiter hiring used to be hard multiple jobs sites. Stacks of resumes, a confusing review process, but today hiring can be easy. And you only have to go to one place to get it done. Ziprecruiter dot com slash BUSTER. 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But I was thinking about this today and listening to our colleague Mathis Gershon talk about these two teams. And I thought, you know, they're in the last decade or so the first part of the last decade. The cardinals were the great team. The cubs were still in the process of rebuilding. Then starting in two thousand fifteen two thousand sixteen you saw the cubs rise forward and the cardinals became this team of inconsistency year to year, a lot of mistakes, the island misfit toys guys seem to be out of place. And now in two thousand nineteen I feel like what we're going to see this weekend is two teams at two traditional rivals. Who are really good? It feels like we're getting these two teams when they're both really good. And there's something cool in that. Because we are. I mean, that's that's exciting. I know it's early in the season. But it's very clear. Lear that just from a talent level. I mean, look at the names. And of course, the cardinals adding Paul Goldschmidt. You know is one thing to credit the team. But really, it's it's been, you know, the work of my Scheldt and utilizing, you know, the the team that they have and getting more production from guys that just were really having down years Marcella Zuno being one of them that really stands out, you know, to me, but you wash this cardinals team. And it's like everything just seems to be going on all cylinders, and they have had the talent. But adding Goldie and now being able to produce an in just honestly beat up flat out beat up on teams. I mean, it's it's exciting. Because now, you're right. Like, I know as long as you know, I've been really locked in watching baseball. It's this rivalry has been something. That's kind of built up more like William and say, yeah, we're going to Louis 'cause it's you know, the rival game cards cubs. But you never really felt like these teams we're gonna be at each other's throats. And now I feel like that. What do you see in the cardinals specifically with that that line that they have? I see. I mean, honestly. And I I hate making it about one guy, but I see Paul Goldschmidt. I mean. And again, not to negate the work of Paul de young fellas. You know? I mean, I mean, there's so many guys within this lineup that are that are massively producing and have been, you know, now, consistent, you know. But what I see is Paul Goldschmidt. Just the presence that he has influence and BUSTER you've gotten to know him over the years with the Diamondbacks. I mean, he's not some raw guy. But you watch him just even within you know, the team just watching him his presence in the batter's box. And the way he plays the game. There's so many different kinds of leaders Paul Goldschmidt to me is number one in baseball leading. By example. I don't think there is a better player out there that the way he runs the basis the way that he even goes about his defense the way that he takes pitches and has a professional that almost. Every single time. He picks up the bat is number one. No one is better in baseball in leading team by the way that he plays the game. And I really feel like that is why you're seeing reduction of this team offense. But also, just the chemistry and flow. And I know Mike Schultz getting a lot of credit for that as he should. I also give a ton of credit to Paul Goldschmidt. No one player. You've been watching off to good star for the cubs as your David Bodey. Oh my gosh. I mean, we got to see his I mean, I would probably go down as one of the biggest moments of his life and his career still so young. So there's so much more. But it's walk off home run that he had in Chicago last year that we were able to call on Sunday night baseball. I mean that that was kind of is. Wow. Who's David Bodey here? He is. But big moment. But, you know, then he kind of goes back behind the scenes because there are so many names Kris Bryant, Anthony Rizzo and heavier bias Kaos Forber in this lineup. And David Bodey has has been really that consistent like to me star. If you're in Chicago and you're like really rallying behind one player from game. One in two thousand nineteen David Bodey, Chris Brian Anthony Rizzo and casual raw got up to really slow starts and not the body has been perfect. But he's so when you can rely on defensive Lee has been really consistent, and you watch his bat in the way that he's able to hit to all fields and just. There's something about his energy BUSTER, and I know, you know, you and I both spent time talking to them. I mean, he's like that little kid. It's just loves in a freesheets the game. And that comes out when he watch him play. Yeah. There's something Peja Roya bregman like about David Bowie. Would you agree? Oh, gosh. Oh, look an all out just like like that grin on his face. Like, he knows something that we don't. And what he knows is like what's going to happen in that game that he's going to bring it's like he just can't wait to get out there. And and I get it the monotony of a hundred and sixty two games with hear about it all the time. And there I love being around him. Because it even reminds me of just like I wanna grab a glove and play. I mean, he's seriously. It's like he feels so lucky that he has the opportunity to play the game of baseball hope that never leaves him because I know he's still young in his career. And he, but he's still walks around. It doesn't matter how well he's doing or how he's really solidified his spot now on this team. He doesn't take the grain for granted. No, I didn't plan on asking you about this. But since his name came up, Alex bregman, I want to tell your side of that story where on Saturday morning in preparation for a piece that ran on Sunday night baseball in Houston last week, you wrote to the park with Alex and a first and foremost on his mind was that unusual video that tripper power set out that piece of social media. You just tell that story. I thought that was funny. The first thing, you know, he comes down a little lane tired. You know tired just FYI eleven in the morning to get their schedules. Crazy, it's like a whole different thing. And so he's coming down. And I'm like, I can tell even a mood. Right. I know Alex well enough that I thought he was just weepy. And I'm like you. Okay. Because I mean, he was like, you know, they're trying to put a mic on him. And he's just like not having it. He's like what are we doing? I'm like, so, you know, when we do an interview required as microphones like, you know, kind of reminding them like this is how you know, we talked about this. And and then finally you just pulled his phone out. This is before what we even did on camera in the car, and he's pulled his phone out. He's like did you see the Bauer thing? I'm like, you know, I heard about it. But I hadn't actually seen it at that point. And he just shook his head. I could tell that had put him in this like mood and he had a grin on his face. It wasn't like he was like totally pissed off. But it definitely he was distracted by this thing. So we get in the car and we're talking about. Game prep, and you know, all this stuff. And this is what I love about. Honestly being in a car BUSTER going to the field with someone is then we had to pull over because it was some audio issues. So he takes that moment to be like, okay. I wanna show you what? So you at Trevor sent. And I'm like thrown because I'm like, wait. We already talked about this. But clearly it was still bothering him. We weren't even talking about it. And he's like I want to show you I want you to see this, Jeff. And I want you to give me your reaction. And you know, then I'm like what like, you know. 'cause he's see it just it's so Trevor Bauer and your description of unusual is like one of the best descriptions, you can have of of Trevor and honestly that that Instagram posts, but you know, that the bobble head nodding up and down. Did I nominate you and it's out bregman bottle had going? Yes, you know. And then that's when Alex went right into just you know what? Yeah. Dominated me at seven pitch walking. I mean, just the competitor. Right. Like, you didn't dominate me. And like, yeah. Domination april. It was awesome. Like, and that's what I love about the game in a lot. Bantering maybe doesn't happen as much on the field as it did ten twenty years ago. It's happening through social media because that's how these players do things. So you know, that's what I wanted to ask you about it, the more that I process that and sort of his reaction to it. I said, you know, what this is a guy. I was getting ready for that day's game as a competitive person like this is his fuel most of us eat oatmeal or something like that in the morning to get ourselves ready for Alex bregman, the competitive player that dropped in at a nice time. He's been ready for that day's game. My my honest there. Yeah. No. And that's why I want to do more of these. Because honestly, it really gave me insight, and hopefully the cameras that we're able to capture it the viewers insight of what a player like one of the top players in the game right now. They're preparation like there. It's not just like talking about going through the pitcher that he's gonna face. But really just you're right. Like, he was clearly like fueled by this post and and want he kept looking at it. And he's you know, he's driving like we're doing an interview. And he just kept looking. It on his phone to the point where he had to bring it up again knowing that he was Mike knowing that were cameras knowingly had already talked about it. That's that's what I love about it. It's like even though I had all these questions prepped. He ultimately, I just want to know where your mind is. We're going it gained it. What are you thinking about? We'll game day. He's thinking about Trevor Bauer and a post that was made. But really it's off in a in a laughable way that where he was like, you know. Hey, did you see my response, and you know, all of that? Yeah. It's a long season. And they use some of this to get through to more for you one. Jason heyward. I it's it's it's always going to be a battle for him. The idea of hitting you know, he cut it reminds me a little bit. And I'm not it all comparing the two players in terms of what they -ccomplish, but I always thought in covering Cal Ripken hitting was not an easy thing for him. It was a constant work in progress. He was constantly tinkering. He was constantly making adjustments. He was constantly trying to find some swing or some setup that would make him comfortable. And that's what Jason Hayward's career has been all about where do you see him? Now. Yeah. I mean, honestly, I see one of the most athletic players in the game. And I feel like his swing especially in a cubs uniform has been very 'end-of-life a lot of times, and it's this this dichotomy where you have. So when you watch play the outfield, you watch him on the basis, you just watch him move. Right. And and I it's just it's so smooth, and it's so strong. And it's so quick you want in swing a bat. And it's like his body is always gotten in the way of his natural abilities. And you know, every hitting coach that he's had has has tried to work with him and try to make adjustments. And you know, I I remember sitting there with Eric Hysky who's assistant hitting coach a few years ago, and then even chili Davis and watching them, I mean obsess over it. Because here you have this great athlete, and you know, he can crush ballsy watch him and BP. How do we get? His body to not get in the way. And that's honestly BUSTER is simple as it is. It's not like he has perfect mechanics right now. It's that he's just getting himself into position where his body doesn't get in the way of what he can naturally do. And it's been it's been cool to watch. Because he's a great guy a hard worker, and I hope he's able to carry it through the rest of the season. And lastly, I'm sure that we'll be talking about a player who's not even going to be in Chicago this weekend Addison, Russell who of course, just finished up a suspension for domestic violence. Well under under baseball's domestic violence policy. I talked early in the week how the more that. I think about it. And I don't mean to be specific about Addison's case because I think there are a lot of things that we don't know. There are a lot of specifics that haven't been totally clear that the communication between the two sides. But big picture as the more that I think about this whole question of whether or not you have players on your organization who've been suspended under the domestic violence policy. My feelings these front offices are so smart. Why don't they have the confidence that they'll be able to find a way to win without adding players who are facing these situations. What you're taking Addison Russell with the cubs. Absolutely. I mean it's frustrating because I feel like it gets forgotten BUSTER. And I mean, we just had you know. Doing last week with Astros. And even though he didn't come in. You know in our game. It it. It's something that like is completely forgotten. I mean, you take this even seven months ago, and this was I know for you. And I especially when we were coming in Houston. I mean, I had a lot of questions for AG hint hint at a lot of questions for Jeff Luneau. And like how are you allowing this to be someone that you're going to be able to acquire from Toronto put him into your team? And just be like, yeah, we're gonna forgive and forget, and he's working on it. And he's trying to be a better person. What message does that send? And you know, we've seen it now, especially now that the domestic policy domestic violence policy is so newest MLB is that teams are trying to figure out how they handle it even separate from how you know, the league is handling it. I just hate that. Then the day, and I don't wanna soon this. But I just feel like it comes down to winning and where the morals like where are the these are young boys and girls that are watching these games. And what are you teaching as far as you know, what a consequence is for your actions. And I understand that Addison Russell's he's going to therapy. He's on you know, trying to be a better person trying and I I love that. But I think they're also just needs to be a bigger conversation in and around how these guys are brought back in and then openly forgotten of everything that they did. Which to me is the worst part about it. What do you think of the cubs perspective on this? And we we read it from CO. Epstein from the cubs. We talked about in the conference call today. Their feeling is look the supplier who went through this while he was in our organization, we have a responsibility to try to help to make the situation better moving forward for his. Child four Addison in terms of helping him as a person. What do you think of that? I mean, my heart wants to believe that you know, I want to believe that that is their goal. You know, and I hope that it is like I hope that it isn't the fact that heavier bias is there shortstop, and if he goes down, they really don't have another shortstop David Bodey is the next in line who had limited time there, and they will need if you're by. If there is an injury. They will need us in Russell. And I hope that that's not at the forefront of what they're trying to do that. It's more about helping out of Russell his family his child all everything that they're saying my heart wants to believe that I just feel like cross the board when these things have happened. It's come down more about winning games. And what's going allow you to win games and pushing aside with morally, right? Right. Yes. I will see Wrigley on Saturday. He in Chicago. We'll be back in a moment with chase only. But I I want to tell you about seek the ticket industry hasn't changed in a long time. 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And as you know over the last decade analytics is coming into the sport and of curious because you played against the Tampa Bay Devil Rays when they started to put that stuff in place. How your your perspective was on? Analytics is I came into the game. When I came in the game, I wasn't really privy to to all the information. So I wasn't quite sure what all the all that meant going over the dodgers. Obviously, very heavy analytical background. I learned a lot actually the last few years. I see the advantages now of using it. Whereas before I was probably a little hard headed and old school thought that it was not necessarily. But now that I've seen it actually work on a day-to-day basis. They're definitely some to it. What tell me, for example. What you remember the first time he saw team aggressively used defensive shifts. Yeah. We we've shifted a little bit. When I was in Philadelphia. But it wasn't something we really focused on. I I recall playing some like Barry Bonds type guy I was playing him in short right field one because I didn't want to really get too close to him because he hit the ball so hard to you wanna take out takeaways many hits as possible. So we were doing a little bit of shifting. But it wasn't as heavily wasn't as as focused in on as it is now, whereas there's to the to the actual like foot, you, you know, where to position guy to give yourself the best chance to to make an out. And it's it works believe it or not it works over the course of the year. Obviously, there's some balls at squeak through holes occasionally, the pitchers don't like, but over the course of the long long-haul the works in your favor. So how much did you? How did you go about that process? When you went to the dodgers was something you sort of reluctant at that point of view when he went to the dodgers where you open minded about. Today. You know, what's this about? Yeah. I was completely minded it was fascinating to me to go to new organization that had just different way of processing information. So I was definitely open minded to it. I was there to win. Whatever gave us the best chance to win. I was all for it. It didn't take me a whole lot very long to to buy into because right off the bat. The information is right there in front of. And it seemed like just being in the dodger clubhouse the last couple years in watching you and your interaction. It seemed like there were times when you would bring stuff too young players. I'd see you sitting at a computer screen, for example with young players looking at different things. Did you do more and more that is you got towards the end of your career? I did definitely both right? I was more of a less less time on the field. If you will early in my career, I was the most part out there on a daily basis, but the last couple of years I was role player and platoon player. But I wanted again L goes back to winning. So I wanted to kind of give back and try to figure out ways to win and help other guys. So I try to you know, give as much knowledge, or at least what I thought was the right knowledge to to the younger guys to help them succeed not only for that game. But throughout the course of the season, and maybe build something a routine that helps them throughout their career. So we're talking with chase leaves? You're representing these Scots field refurbishment program. Which is renovating youth baseball and softball fields in the US. So you're one of those guys who I feel like you could basically do anything he wanted to in. Now that you're playing Kerr's over you could work in front office knowing the respect that a lot of the front office staffers have for you. You could be field staff. It could be a coach she could be manager. You probably could do a lot of stuff out of baseball to sit here today. What do you think which direction? Do you want to go? I'm going to do a little bit of of everything I'm working for the dodgers in special advisory role right now living in Los Angeles. It makes it really easy. One thing. I told myself and my wife after baseball's over I wanted to kind of slow down the traveling as you know, the the the season is a long season. There's a ton of traveling. You're away from home. You're you're in and out of hotel rooms in and out of luggage, which gets little old at times, especially when you have two young boys at home. So I wanted to eliminate traveling and just kind of set up shop at home wake up with my boys. Take them to school pick him up from school. And just, you know, have that have that time that I haven't had over the past few years with them. So dodgers said listen, you we love to have you in any capacity want come in when you feel like you need to. So, you know, the teams at home I'll go in and and help troubleshoot different things there started off pretty hot. So I haven't really done a whole lot yet. But as the season goes along there's always stuff that comes up subduing that I'm going to do a little pregame postgame analyst work. I'm not quite sure I might have to bounce. You questions off you after we get done talking to see how that's out to figure that out. But I'm excited. I wanna do a little bit of everything. But one thing I do not want to do is travel. A lot. So what's been like so far being home in the mornings? That's been great most morning. Some mornings are a little bit of a battle. But most opponents are are great make waking up with boys making them breakfast. Hopefully, I make the correct breakfast that morning, and you know, taking them to school something that I really missed out on you know, when you're playing seven o'clock game, you're done at ten ten thirty your home by eleven thirty twelve you're not asleep till one to wake up at six on a daily basis after going to bed at one isn't conducive to be very successful as an athlete. So I missed out on that that time and I'm excited to participate in a little bit more. Now does the idea of possibly managing someday? Intrigue Goodall because I've worked with guys like Alex Cora Aaron Boone over time. They got more interested in that. They've actually wanted to pursuing it. You know, what time will tell as of now? No, it doesn't. I it's I don't really have much interest in that. Because of the. Amount of time. I would have to put into it. The amount of time. It would take me away from my family, which I want to spend more time with so as of now. No, that's not something that I'm looking forward to doing. But like, I said time will tell maybe that will change at some point. All right. Give me the best story anecdote that you would tell a friend about Clayton Kershaw a future hall of Famer who's been a teammate ears in recent seasons. Is is one of the best. He he reminds me a lot of ROY halladay really had amazing work ethic, and it showed when he pitched in same with Clayton Kershaw is someone that's grinding every single day. There's no days where it looks like he's sitting he's relaxing. He's always either is in the weight room trying to get stronger for trying to create more flexibility or is in the video room scouting hitters trying to put a game plan together for a start and dig aims or any day. He pitches, you kinda stay clear of Clayton Kershaw. You don't wanna look at them. You just kind of you don't wanna bump into them. You don't want to sit on the same table that that he gravitates towards you just kind of stick keep your distance. Let him do his thing. And all we'll be right. And as you've seen over the years, he's pretty special. So did you ever accidentally violate that? Yes. I know I have. And I got in trouble. Yes. I have a certain training room table that piece. It's on every time. I didn't know this coming over to the dodgers. I had no idea. And at one day, I was just sitting down talking to one of the trainers. And he looked at his watch and said you need to get up immediately. As why I don't understand. Why do I need to get up? Let's Clayton spot. I'm like, really know. And sure enough within like to the second. He walks in the door looked me in my eyes and gave me like this death stare like how dare you sit on my table. And I got up walked out of the room and didn't say a word. We joke about it afterwards. But in the moment, you just don't say a word. And last one for he would he be seen and Cody Bellinger this year. It seems like I doubt just on on a conversation. They had with him early on. He really came into this year on a mission to to make the judgments he felt like he needed to make. I think you hit the nail on the head. He's definitely made some some adjustments. I think we all know the type of talent he has not only on offensive. But defensively he's the fastest guy on the dodgers. He plays. It amazing outfield. Great army can do it. He can do it all we're all seeing. But from an offensive standpoint, he just looks more comfortable and confident in the batter's box. I think having that amazing rookie season can be difficult to to try to to do over. And he I think last year he learned a lot about himself. He learned about some things that he does. Well, and some things that he does not doesn't do so. Well, and and he was able to this off scene to kind of hone in on those those those things and is I mean you seen him lately. It's pretty amazing his about quality just. The quality contact the comfort like he just feels like he reminds me a little bit. Just watching him hit like Barry Bonds type like calm cool in the box. Doesn't get a whole lot of strikes, but has good takes. He's pretty special watcher now, and he's twenty four years old, which is amazing. And a lot of years ahead of chases. I mentioned you here for Scots what he got their partner. With Scott's in major league baseball for this field refurbishment program. And it's it's pretty exciting. I've talked about having two young boys and grew up playing at a great baseball facility at a young age as well as most of my friends, and I I want that same experience for my for my kids. So party was Scott's the fact that they've given away for granted this year twenty over the past four years to fix these fields that that that just need a little love. I think it's important for kids to be outside and active and limit their their screen time. If you will and I'm clearly biased being a baseball player. But baseball's my mind, the greatest sport in the world so to have beautiful fields fields if parents feel comfortable going to they're in good shape that are you can smell the grass is that whole baseball or is amazing for youth and and to mow baseball. So I'm just proud to be a part of this. Chase. Thanks for doing this. Thanks, guys. Another good is full of surprises. Some sweet some heartwarming than some simply unforgettable. This mother's day surprise mom with a gift to delicious to forget locally crafted fresh fruit distant indulgent chocolate from edible arrangements. Whether it's a new mother, a grandmother or any moment in between. Everyone can share in the celebration with edible to give the moms in your life. The surprise they deserve. Visit your local edible store today or place in order online at edible dot com. Bleacher tweets, close out the week in style. Here BUSTER, we got this one. It's a good one from Bill Walton at Dr underscore voice. Ter- the hall of Famer Walton I really enjoy the podcast says Bill as a longtime Yankee fan. I was wondering if you could explain why they haven't picked up Dallas kaikal, he seems like the type of lefty that would do well at the stadium one. I think is contract to this point have been a lot higher than maybe what they are comfortable with as we know the the last offer that he got from the Houston Astros one year for fifteen million dollars in two for twenty four that was the beginning of March. And here's the other factor too. And that's why I've said on a podcast before if I were friend of Dallas kaikal, I'd say dude, you gotta sign as soon as you can because there is growing skepticism as season goes along about a how quickly he's gonna help and be effective. He's going to be when he actually joins a team. And I think the Yankees are probably in the same boat of a lot of teams wondering that even if they signed Dallas kaikal if in fact would be the kind of help that they invision Meg oh at Meg oh seven wants to know at what point to Indians fans. Start getting legitimately concerned about the lack of production from their hitters most. Notably Jose Ramirez struggles along with window for it's interesting up. Meg specifically, they're not concerned. I mean Lindores is barely came back a week ago. So he's got more time to get back into shape and get into the game condition and with Jose Ramirez. These a long history of starting slowly, and then picking it up really well, but here's the issue. And the reason why it is legitimate concern because they don't have a lot of margin for air like they need those two guys to hit right away. Absolutely Rena is at Reno banana. Of course, says we've discussed Aaron Boone being crowned manager of the year of the Yankees continue their current momentum with the b squad. But if the tw-. Twins win the AL central would Rocco ball deli potentially be a more viable candidate. Josh. I'm kinda tired of Rena just making too much sense. You know, we have to consider a suspension. Yeah. Thanks for being weighed to affect. That's you're absolutely right Rena. If the twins win the division than Rocco Bodell. He's gonna be manager of the year in the American League. I think you could put that in stone. Absolutely. Put that in stone and put it in Rocco's native Rhode Island. Todd. Alec Pratt closes out at Todd Pratt. Seven BUSTER Bryce Harper gets the attention of the best player in the majors not named Mike trout. But is he even the best player on his team right now? Will they be the best over the next few seasons? In other words, when does Reese Hoskins surpass Harper. Or is he already done it? That's a really interesting question. First up with all due respect. I don't think that people talk about Harper being the second best player in baseball. I think guys like Mukhi bets get a lot more attention. But you point is we'll take him for a player who's in year one of thirteen three hundred and thirty million dollar deal. There are other important players on that team. I would say that probably if you pull the valuate as my guess is is that the number one player taken off that roster would be Nola in the number two guy would be Bryce Harper. And then we saw skins probably be what three or four or five. Sure JT rail Mutoko certainly would be in that mix as well hundred percent. Good questions this week. Make sure you keep them coming next week and all season long. Use the hashtag Bleacher tweets, that's it for today. My thanks to chase utley to. Jessica Mendoza to Carl ravage the Rabbie train to Josh macrey who produces podcast every day. Have a great weekend. 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Effectively Wild Episode 1429: Catch Me if You Can

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

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Effectively Wild Episode 1429: Catch Me if You Can

"Okay so hello and welcome to episode fourteen twenty nine of affectively wild baseball podcast and fan graphs presented presented by our Patriot supporters of the ringer joined by say Miller espionage last time we talked a little bit about players turning in the thick of a pennant race and how teams handle that and the flip side of that the unfortunate flipside of that is players getting hurt in the thick uh of pennant race and we've had that happen to obviously the example this week Christian Yelich fractured kneecap done for the year and the the outpouring of disappointment has probably outstripped any similar outpouring. I can remember for a player who is missing eighteen games ames in September which if you think about it it could have been worse it could have happened earlier and it could have been even more costly I suppose but but because yellow pages at the center of so many storylines right now it feels like a large loss I wrote about it and you can make the case is that it won't actually change anything. There are ways in which may be the outcome of the season and the things that Christianity was involved in wouldn't actually change change like the brewers are sort of long shots at least if you look at the playoff odds even with Christian yelich their game back of the cubs in the wild card race as we we speak but because they're not quite as good a team they are not favored and one player even player is great as Yelich only makes so much much difference over the span of few weeks in theory at least and you could say that maybe he probably wouldn't have gotten to fifty thirty anyway. If he had stay healthy it would have been challenging though not impossible to get the six homers he needed and you could say that maybe bellinger was more deserving and more likely uh-huh. VP candidate anyway even if yellow chet been able to play the rest the schedule but you put all those things together and those were a lot of the reasons why we were excited about baseball for the rest of the regular season the brewers trying to chase the cubs and bellinger trying to chase history whether home homerun title or the fifty thirty race or back to back MVP awards so it's a big bummer and he's just generally one of the more compelling players in the sport right now so it is sad to him at a crucial time well. Okay Ben. Let Me let me give a couple of counter arguments about how it would have affected things or probably would have affected things or your underplaying how much it would have affected things his home run rate per game if you assumed he would have played the final eighteen games as well as all of the one game that he mostly missed because he does in the first inning would have put him at fifty point four home runs and so fifty thirty was actually right what he was on track for and while the brewers it is true are not favored by the playoff odds because the cubs are seen by these he's playoff odds as being higher quality team. They're still at twenty five percent even without Yelich and presumably with Yelich show. I don't know I don't have those would be but I would guess that it would have been the the the low thirties maybe when we woke up this morning the cubs also I believe benefit from the the playoff odds perception that the cardinals aren't very good of the cubs. Have I think seven games left against the cardinals and the these plots don't think the cardinals are a particularly good team but the cardinals have been the best team in the National League for the second half were or roughly so and and are a good team and so you know you could make the case. The cubs actually have a very challenging schedule ahead of them while the brewers have almost no challenge ahead of course so they have one series against the cardinals sets it. I don't think the brewers are are favored by any means and they wouldn't have been in. I think in fact a week ago I thought the brewers were completely out of it. It's the fact that they've managed to claw back in with a sweep against their rivals over the weekend and that they were not three out of four I think but three out of four thank you yes you you live a life of luxury and you count Thursday as a part of the weekend on a worker no three out of four sorry about that so they fought their way back in there only one email and also to be honest. There's not a lot going on in the standings and it has felt in a there have been multiple days in the last few weeks where it is felt like the National League is all sewn up and then the next day the cubs lose three teams win and you squint and you go okay well. Maybe we're an I've just had this rooting for whoever is closest exist kind of a feeling for the last few weeks just to keep some interest going in that race in the brewers. Were you know five teams out not long ungoverned. Neither one came out in so it's a real shame that it came when it did but I mean that's not to contradict anything that you were saying. It is a bummer. It seems to me that I'm sure this is not true. I'm sure this is my perception. In the moment maybe specifically because of the injury there's injuries every year obviously but it really feels like in a lot of ways this has been the year of the pennant race shifting injury or the. I don't know I don't know injuries feel like they've been such a part of the story reline particularly for contending team so you have you have yellowish going down a just as just as the brewers are getting back in it and then you had. Jose Ramirez is going down just as he was kind of reaching his his peak again in Cleveland was one of the the main competitive teams in competitive race so he goes down and you have hobby Baya's is is gone from the cubs simultaneously with yellowish and he's probably gone for the rest of September and I'm I'm. There's probably others that I'm thinking of in Paxton done for the year Iron Beck's done for the year you also have just the fact that the Yankees being that's been in a larger sense that has been one of the huge story lines of the year the Yankees going through this historic run of injuries and somehow coming out of it even stronger you had Cleveland Losing Carrasco in Kluber Lubar and it's seeming to doom them early in the year. You Know Sean Manet I dunno Carlos Correa has been out. I'm obviously you can name injured players players in on any team in any year but it feels like there have been a lot of injuries that have felt like like that was going to be doom for the team and Maybe maybe in this case it actually will be for Milwaukee or for Chicago without hobby by is or for Cleveland. Without Jose Ramirez who's to say but I dunno feels like it's been a bigger storyline unusual here. Yeah it's a big bummer and to be clear my column about this was not actually it's okay. Christian coaches herder or you're all making too much much of it. I am as upset about it as one. It's I think partly that he ended last season on such an incredible run that he as close as a baseball player ever comes to carrying a team or singlehandedly propelling the team into the playoffs. That's what Christian Yelich did last September timber and of course he propelled the brewers to the tiebreaker with the cubs and then into the S. and he was sort of starting to to do the same thing again this year the September he had also been on fire five of his first eight games had come against the cubs and he had torn up and he had walk-off against them on Saturday so he was doing the same sort of heroic thing and even though if you look at the wars and the projected wars it will tell you that well an eight win guy if we say that Christian Yelich has roughly an eight wind guy then over three weeks eighteen games. You wouldn't even expect him to be a one wind guy over replacement or in this case I guess over Trent Grisham who maybe is a better than replacement level will say but that that just Kinda really mirror the way that we feel about this baby. We should understand that and know that yes. It's baseball and you usually. Louis can't do what Christian Yelich did last September and even if you do there's just no way to protect. Maybe Trick Grisham will get hot or maybe yellow twitter slumped or maybe it wouldn't have made a difference. The difference between those two guys wouldn't have made a wins worth of difference because of the performance of the rest of the team but storyline wise. That's why we're watching his to see the best players play at quote the most important times of the year. I know that technically speaking every woman matters the same but this is when everything's magnified because we know how much the winds matter and we can count the remaining games aims and look at the standings and have it signifies something so it's a real shame to lose some in such a fluky injury to. I don't know that I've ever her seen. This exact injury happened. I was looking at Corey Dhaka's intrigue database to see if I could come up with comps and nothing was immediately suggesting testing itself because we're so used to seeing players foul pitches off themselves. All the time went around a little bit and maybe get a big bruise and be day to day in that set. They're back and that is not the case here as we speak. We don't know quite how serious it is whether it will require surgery what the recovery time will be obviously so much of Yelich. Appeal is the power speed Combo that of course he really hoped that he won't be hampered at all when he does come back which hopefully fleet will be in time for a full season next year but that this won't be a lingering thing that saps speed at all because in addition to being maybe the best non and Mike Trout hitter in baseball this year he's also been almost the best base runner and over the past calendar year just edges out trout as the highest war guy at least according to fan graphs so it's a loss do you. I think he probably doesn't really have a chance at winning the MVP award right now yeah yeah probably not if you look at the history of Mvp Award winners which I did when I was reading this article there have been like nine guys who have have won the award playing one hundred thirty or fewer games so it's not out of the question of course but a some of those guys more than half of them came before for the schedule expanded to its current length and be probably most of them didn't have a cody bellinger who was neck and neck with them. Perhaps even ahead of them. According to some sources so I think probably not his best shot was that he just have a hot September and the brewers would squeak into the playoffs and then he'd get the narrative boost but bellinger unless he goes into some strange slump he will probably pass Yelich which in all three wars by the end of the year he's already ahead in baseball referencing baseball prospectus and of course he has the playoff boost so I wonder her if anything you might see guys like Ren Donor Qatar Morte pick-up some Volker votes although looking back at the whole history of MVP award winners only been three guys who ever played one hundred thirty games or fewer hitters obviously who even finished second or third in an MVP race and all those guys were along time ago so I think Yelich will do that but yeah he probably has a very slim chance now that it depends entirely on Beller having a bad few weeks and may be on the brewers making the playoffs without him and at the you know if you're GONNA play one hundred thirty games obviously sleep through no fault of his own you don't WanNa Miss the final eighteen yes hi in a pennant race for your MVP candidacy but as it is bellinger is the only person who will pass him in Fan Rafts War and Martin might pass him or might not but otherwise only will be ahead of him and if you were to use win probability added he would have case to be better than than bellinger. He's by far the number one win probability added in baseball he's about to wins ahead of bellinger and he's only probably he will probably not be two wins behind him in war although he might in on Reverend so so there's there is a case for him. There's a case for debating that to award probably even still but yeah yeah and it's kind of incredible that the brewers are in it at this point because they've had a bunch of injuries issues but also they've been outscored by twenty seven runs as we speak right now and they have been very successful in one run games uh-huh and one in to run games and they've won a whole lot of those and that has kind of kept them in it so it's not really a great team as is currently constituted and yeah losing out hurts them a lot not just brewers fans but also all baseball fans because really he was probably the the player who was Achna stick of team loyalty like he was probably the most compelling player down the stretch right now just the combination of the award chase and the fifty thirty and where the brewers are in the race. He was probably the guy who should have been at the top of everyone's game-changer your list so it's a big book. The man managed to slip and slide naked without hurting himself. Yeah I thought he was invincible. One other thing I wanted to bring up there's been a personal catcher controversy in the past week and it seems like we've gone awhile without one of those not that they were ever extremely common but it seemed almost like a throwback to have some disagreements and maybe even some acrimony. Nonni over who is throwing to this is obviously Noah syndergaard and the mets and it was reported as syndergaard being upset even looted. I think the New York Post said about being forced to work with Wilson Ramos who he has not had as much success with the season the the team has done just fine win syndergaard throws to Ramos but rescinded card has not done nearly as well as he has done during two other catchers particularly to must neto and and so it was reported that syndergaard was upset about having to work with Ramos and Mickey callaway and Brodie van Wagon. Were just Kinda like well. You've got to suck it up because Wilson Ramos is really good hitter cow wave and said that Ramos has been the best hitter in baseball over the past month and a half which seems like quite an in exaggeration but he has been very good he was great in August and so it's kind of this interesting question that always comes up with personal catchers which is what's your obligation as a player and what is actually best for the team so Calloway said that when Jacob Degrom uh-huh wanted to work with a personal catcher last year that he was okay with that because the mets weren't really in it and Graham was chasing this historic works season and going after the cy young word so that sort of took precedence over the team results whereas now because the mets are still sort of in this wild card race he saying that Noah syndergaard just SORTA has to live with it and if you're Noah syndergaard than maybe you WanNa put the team I and you care more about the team winning than the results and maybe Wilson Ramos his bat outweighs to US Neto glove but also maybe you think think about this not selflessly but selflessly and you think well. I'm actually so much better when I'm throwing through Tomas Neo that this is the best thing for the team and the team mm-hmm is wrong about this and of course there's all sorts of other stuff here where Brody Van Wagon in gave Wilson Ramos his contract and he had encouraged courage Jacob degrom to try to work with Devon Morocco because he was representing dicap- to grab at the time so it's another vestige of that strange former agent agent storyline but I'm always kind of curious about this of course it goes back to maybe Greg Maddux working with a personal catcher or or even the days of Mike Napoli in Jeff Matheson just trying to weigh these separate skills because Sundergaard is right that Neto is the superior defensive offensive catcher. The numbers are pretty clear. If you look at baseball perspective he does the better framer us the better thrower and Ramos ranks pretty low on the leaderboard for catcher defense. NATO ranks pretty high so he's not imagining things and that's even going beyond what syndergaards probably talking about which is the symbiotic relationship chip in the personal catcher kind of melting of mines. Yeah I feel like you. If you're a star pitcher and you want to have a personal catcher and you frame it as like you want you just want to have a catcher who is more dedicated to you and your more dedicated to him and just it's. It's not about picking one over the other. It's more about having that dedicated relationship where you can really. I don't now bond you know meld together. I've you like that usually goes well. It doesn't usually go well when it framed as I have a teammate and I just don't really like working with him not that. I don't know not that I would know who's to blame in that relationship or whether syndergaard is is is right about his performance suffering or or anything like that. It just usually doesn't really go as well and so just the messaging here isn't ideal. It's more gets kind of message. Yes in that sense like so Zach Frankie for instance last year. Zach Cranky started thirty three games games and all thirty three of them were started by Jeff. Mathis and Jeff Athas only started. I think twenty eight other games the whole year and I don't think that was very disruptive. Have I never heard that. Green tea like didn't like the diamondbacks other catcher who what the time was was what Alex Avila. It was always just like you know he. He likes to have a catcher. Who's got a little bit more attention for him on him? They were together and that's all it is and they made it at work it. Wasn't you know you're going to have a backup catcher who starts one or two games a week and so you just put on that schedule and I don't know it feels like when the the way that this story came out though it is instantly like a tabloid story instead of a baseball story and it feels like the messaging of it. You don't have to try that hard. I wouldn't think to be a little bit more diplomatic about it I will I will. I will note that when Syndergaard is pitching to Rama. She has a better strike outrage. He he has a better walk rate and he does not allow any more stolen bases than when Tomas Nido catches now he does allow higher. Bab and he has a lot more home runs and maybe see that's Wilson Ramos's fault. I'm not saying that it is not but I don't know I don't know it. Just feels feels like it's always the mets. It usually is and to be fair. Syndergaard didn't dispute that this conversation happened but did dispute the characterization of he portrayed it as a more diplomatic and civil conversation of course he probably would say that even if if it wasn't one so I don't know exactly what was said but yeah. It's better if this sort of thing does not come out of course in his settled behind closed doors. I and I can understand I can imagine that there are probably players who form an attachment that is unnecessary necessarily like maybe they just become comfortable working with a certain guy and they kind of have tunnel vision and they're looking at how they feel and not how it impacts the rest of the team and maybe they just imprint on a certain guy because they happen to have a good game with this guy and a bad game with the other guy and they think inquiry. I can work well with this guy and I can't work with that guy and really it's just small sample and they're being fooled by something we all do things like that where we draw hasty conclusions based on some positive or negative experience that we had were something and so if you're the manager or your the GM maybe it can be your job to take the bigger view and save. Don't form your impression. Don't decide based on this. It's so subject to random. I'm very ation and yet if you are really feeling uncomfortable working with a guy then at a certain point. Maybe it does impact your performance even even if it wouldn't have otherwise once you decide that it probably will that you can't work with this guy. Then it's a self fulfilling prophecy and maybe that guy is feelings are ruffled and he doesn't like working with you. I could imagine catcher's not wanting to work with syndergaard because he allows a lot of stolen basis it through no fault of the catcher so maybe catchers have personal pitchers. They don't Wanna work with Noah syndergaard but yeah I I'm sure that there are times times when if we could run the math and there's just really no way to do it because we can look at your as with this guy and that guy maybe if it's a multi season sample you can have a little more confidence in you can look at components instead of just the big results but it's hard to know. I know it's hard to say statistically speaking that this is the optimal pairing because there's just a lot you kind of have to either disbelievers believer take on faith when it comes to the pitcher catcher relationship and so if syndergaard says he works so much better with the sky. Maybe it's just a comfort thing like maybe he's not actually better but he just enjoys it more he just. I don't know he likes talking to that guy more or he has the impression that he gets along with this guy better but really the results wouldn't actually be that different so I'm sympathetic but yet you you kind of want to I guess defer to your really good starters if you can if you have someone who is actually good at defense and his employed by your team for that reason to begin with and ideally of course you want to keep this thing quiet tend to settle it not in the York Post Sean Conroy Sean Conroy at this moment stompers. I asked one time if he likes if he had a personal catcher. He likes having a personal catcher if he believes in the value of personal catcher. He said he he really liked having a personal catcher. He just didn't care who it was. He was satisfied with any catcher that he he ever had but he wanted to be the same face behind the plate every every game and where we're. I'm sympathetic with with Syndergaard and with a lot of catchers is that you don't often have the same face behind the plate if you're lucky you're drafted by the cardinals finals in and then you do by syndergaard in his short career. He's basically played like four seasons. He's had he's thrown the nine different different catchers. You're just not gonNA get the familiarity that I think pitchers would prefer from that. Maybe you luck out and maybe you realized immediately that You you know Tomas Nido is your soul mate and in fact that's who you WanNa lock in with and then it can be frustrating that that player is not the primary catcher and that particularly as the in the stretch run when everybody's asked to do a little bit more and Romo's being the primary catcher was asked to do a little bit more by playing every day now all of a sudden you don't have your familiar millea face back there but the larger challenge of just having to adapt to a new catcher in this in this relationship that pitchers value a great deal and think matters. It's tough in in an era where players move around a lot. Where teams are you know trying to churn through costs controlled pre our players or or or whatever the case may be and you just you're dealing with three catchers every year and then the next year three catchers Yup alright emails emails sure all right well I sort of teased this one last time and since we're on the subject of mets pitchers guests will start here. This is from David any idea what the hell is up with. Edwin Diaz has any pitcher ever been so good and so bad at the same time it seems like it should be impossible to strikeout fifteen and a half batters per nine innings and still have terrible results but he's found a way he has the minus of Peter Lambert and the exit minus of Max Sir. Is this just small simple size and bad luck or is there some way he's breaking some of these metrics and I'll just to set this up. Uh Little Bit I will quote something at Wendy. S said after one of his recent blowups this is of course deposed mets closer at Wendy. S Diaz said I think it's been a lot of bad luck. Sometimes I leave pitches over the plate and they just pop out and get outs but it's just been a little bit of bad luck but I go out there every time and just try to get out because I know my stuff is pretty good. Obviously not something that mets fans probably want to hear ear from the guy who has been causing them mental stress and strain all season long that it's just bad luck but bad luck is a thing so we can take. Diaz seriously evaluate his case that it actually is bad luck and in the same story that I am reading here there was is also a Mickey callaway quote. He said it's hard to put your finger on the homer issue. We're going to continue to have faith in him and put him in situations because we have to get where we want to go and of course the SS usage has been a story all season and you can't use them this number of days in a row or in the sending her that adding but really what always talking about here in what he has is talking about here is Dinger's Diaz has allowed a lot of home runs even though he has also been excellent blend at missing bats most of the time yeah I mean these are by far the most frustrating player evaluation challenges because the overwhelming majority of pitches that Diaz has thrown have presumably like the evidence suggests. Ben Like the ones that he threw when he was really awesome and most homerun row injustice hard. He's throwing just as hard. He's throwing just as many strikes and he's throwing. He's getting just as many swinging strikes and that tells you that in like a sort of broad pitcher profile while he is mostly the same now all of the home runs that he is allowed presumably came on mistakes and you could very easily isolate those fourteen pitches and go up fourteen gene garbage pitches but in pitchers throw lots of garbage pitches. They throw a ton of mistakes and most of them. Don't get hit out and it's very hard to look at a pitcher in decide aside. How many of those mistakes should have been hit out and so in this case I I have no doubt that the fourteen pitches that he's allowed home runs on wor wor not good good pitches but I I have. I mean I also have a lot of doubt about whether he's actually systematically throwing more mistake pitches. It's possible that's how bad seasons happen is that that the pitchers do make more mistakes but then that's also how fluke casually bad seasons happen and so when you compound that with just the the inherent small sample -ness of a reliever throwing up through two hundred thirty four batters. I mean this is yeah well. I don't really have a stat last today. Ben But I I sort of I have one very very quick thing so. Do you want to just transition into that. Stop last date scars yeah okay so here's the stat blast Ben. We're going to have this year a record number of hit by pitches on three. Oh counts rights. Don't that's all okay but but while I was I don't know even why I was looking at at this was like the sort of thing where I was on the phone instead of doodling when I'm on on the phone I I I play index while I'm on the phone and so I- somehow thought I've always been fascinated by three ball hit by pitches not just three. Oh but three ball hit by pitches and I think I had just seen someone get hit on three when I thought I wonder if those are going up or down so I went and I looked and it's going to be an all time high this year but one thing I noticed while I was on this totally inconsequential play index query was that the Babbitt the league's Babbitt on three. Oh this year is three twenty one and last years it was two sixty three three and that's a big jump and you could say wow the league wide batting average on on three. Oh pitches has gone up sixty points and you could fill fill in some narrative about how teams are swinging more on three uh-huh and I don't know maybe pitchers are something like throwing more off speed pitches or something on on three. Oh and you could you could take all the little nuggets of information that you have about Behavioral Change League wide and the home run era in young players the orioles and all these trends and you could actually make some sort of semi coherent narrative explanation for why Bab went up sixty points on three. Oh pitches but of of course it would all be like it would be wrong. The Bab just fluctuates crazily on three pitches because it's a fairly small sample apple so bob this something that we mentioned before but one of the one of the sort of strange and wonderful things about baseball Babylon three hours basically the same as Bab upon all all other counts is like sort of the nail in the coffin for any argument that like Babylon is primarily a something driven by better hitters being better like like it's just it's just three. Oh you can't be a better hitter than three zero hitter and in in fact only the better hitters or even allowed to swing and yet they produce a cumulative. Bab that is like about the same as every everywhere else a few points higher but over the course of the last thirty years. It's been like five points higher than the normal Bab but it does fluctuate widely allie from year to year so it was three twenty one last year was two sixty three the year before it was three thirty eight the year before that it was to fifty six and two thousand twelve. It was three thirty three and two thousand three. It was two twenty nine in Nineteen Ninety nine to twenty nine. The League is a whole had a two twenty nine Bab on three accounts in nineteen ninety nine whereas they had a league wide data with three thirty eight in two thousand seventeen and so if you look at the league wide number of balls put in play it is about the same as a player season in fact this year there have been about three hundred balls put in play. Not Counting home runs on three. Oh pitches inches and Mike Trout has put three hundred and five balls in play not counting home runs and so if might trout's babb jumped sixty points and you wanted to do you know make some narrative about why it jumped sixty points or why it dropped sixty points which is more common a lot of times when players backdrops sixty points we say well sometimes it's luck but sometimes he's not hitting it hard but also a lot of times. It's locked. There's nothing about the pool of hitters in the major leagues this year that has has any sort of connection to each other all sorts of different players who because of small samples because the fluids nature of this randomly have have years where they hit three twenty on those balls and years where they hit two sixty on his balls switches ought to bring this back to at Wendy's Edwin D. Is I mean what is it a one hundred balls. Put in play. I mean how many balls do I don't know if you have it in front of you. But how many balls does he allow in play in a year is that he okay so he's faced two hundred and thirty four batters he struck out ninety one. He walked twenty so that gets us down to one hundred and twenty hit four so that gets us down to one hundred roughly fifteen and he is allowed fourteen home runs and so out of one hundred fifteen balls in play. Everything is going to be extremely neurotic and that applies applies to his Bob. It applies to his hits allowed. It applies to his home runs and so that all makes this very very frustrating. We're talking about the difference between the five mistakes being hit and five mistakes not being hit and so at the end of it. I just don't know and I don't know if I were Mickey Calloway how I could possibly really have the courage to send him out there with a one run lead or leave him out there say with a two run lead when the first two two players get singles against awesome but I also don't I I mean you'd have to you'd have to just feel like if you did anything else that you would always be doubting whether you overreacted in whether you could could somehow tell yourself just pre probably have to stick with this yeah it's really tough. It's he's. He's got a three ninety Babbitt. He has like a twenty eight percent. Homerun per flight ball rate so more than one of every four five ball sees allowed has turned into a home run. It looks like a utter disaster. It is an utter disaster in the sense that it's hurt the mets but if you look at the underlying numbers like at baseball spell perspectives has dra minus right now which is adjusted for the park and lower is better is sixty point seven which which is great really great. I mean not as great as last year. Last year. He was other worldly but better than he was in twenty seventeen when when he was also a celebrated closer and had a much more respectable. Era So it's just a very difficult question to answer i. I think you could say the same thing about Justin. Verlander you could ask the same sorts of questions obviously not quite to the extremes that we're talking about with Diaz but it's similar with Bruin where he's allowed a ton of home runs and that's really the only thing that has hurt him and correct. Edwards wrote about for lenders home runs recently at Fan graphs and he did do the things that you were just talking about just look at the pitches that turned into home runs see if he throws a lot of those pitches etc so he says I looked into the pitch types and locations for Veru Anders home runs more than half of his homers were in three fairly distinct into categories eight homers to raise fastballs down the middle middle low and middle away but still in the heart of the plate seven homers to lefties on fastballs at the top of the strike zone on four homers on sliders down the middle and then he says across those three categories I found that verlinden through those pitch types in those locations more often than other other pitchers with similar pitches and velocity which might lead to some predictability to his pitches though clearly not enough to prevent him from getting hitters out the vast majority of the time he challenges oranges hitters and it works most of the time but that same approach might make him slightly more vulnerable to homers in short for lender gives a lot of home runs because he throws a lot of pitches where batters hit hit home runs so that's a theory but as Craig acknowledges in that Perry Paragraph batters miss out of those pitches and don't hit a lot of those pitches so I just it's not that persuasive a case I guess when you are really trying to figure out whether pitcher whose unhittable most of the time and if he challenges hitters more of the time to then I guess you could say that he's kind of playing with fire all the time and usually it works but he is is going to get burned more than pitcher with lesser stuff. WHO's trying to stay away from those danger zones more often. I just don't know if that that really explains it to my satisfaction and it certainly doesn't really with delays with Berliner. You have you know in some ways. He's been very very lucky because he has to four. Babba and he has an extremely high strand rate so maybe that's partly him pitching better and differently with with runners on base but also may be. He's getting a little lucky and the ester defenses good so his season is also tough to evaluate but it's not quite as confounding founding of course because with Vera lender you're talking about is he. Having like one of the all-time great seasons or is he having just a merely really excellent and still all songs young caliber season so it's not quite as pressing to figure that out as it is with your closer who is either dominant or terrible yeah. I mean I'm almost in a sense on on Edwin Dis behalf grateful to Justin verlander for doing this in this year because he is he's the best pitcher in the American League having the best season of his career and he's also getting burned by a seemingly inexplicable. We'll spate of home runs and you don't say oh well there. You Go Justin. Verlander is a failure. You say wow that's really weird. I I I mean he's so good it. Must you know there. There must be an aspect of it that is just simply out of his control and that makes it a hello easier to say the same thing about Edwin D as who given that he is a reliever in that when he fails he fails in the most frustrating and sort of permanent way makes it easy for you to just like point and say you know get get him out of here and like paid him. Hey it it'd be like people hate their closers and so this Justin verlander is a lot. I don't know it seems like is a is a a a hand of grace reaching Edwin Diaz and seeing saying hey friend were in this together Edmondez by the way his Bab is almost entirely driven by Bab on ground balls calls and you again. You could be like oh well there you go. He's probably allowing a lot of hard hit ground balls. He's not really and you could say oh well. Maybe it's the mets that's Infield but it's forty two. He has forty two ground balls and and you know like a Bab- on forty two ground balls is just what would it sounds like so I don't know where do you fall on this Edwin D as what ultimately if you having not studied him nor having no stakes whatsoever that that matter if you had to decide whether Edwin D is is your closer on game one sixty three izzy. I'm so happy happy. I don't have to decide but obviously it depends a little bit on who else you have. If you have someone else who is also really impressive that you can feel confident in than than maybe you are more likely to go to that guy but I think I probably be far more likely to continue continue to trust Edwin Diaz than say the typical mets fan who has been burned by ideas repeatedly this year and doesn't care what his the R. A. Minus. An expert minus are only cares how many games sees plywood and how many games he's lost that person's not going to have that patience. I think think I would have that patients and I guess just inherently I do tend to believe that if you're throwing that hard in in your pitches or that nasty and you're getting that many whiffs that you must be good so I think I probably would continue to trust him them but if you're Mickey callaway than of course your job is on the line when you're making that decision and people are yelling at you all the time if you do trust the as in it's just a miserable situation for both of them to be yeah the real the real loss here if they decided not to use him. I mean they do have a pitcher or reliever. Who's really good and could be a lockdown closer or as pitched as well as a lockdown closer and it's Seth Lugo but the problem is that Seth Lugo they've been using as a as has a tuning guy ever high leverage guy and that's a super valuable thing that's arguably more valuable than a closer although if he fails then maybe the failed closer is more damaging damaging than anything else but like it would be very easy for them to say all right. We're just GONNA. We're GONNA put Seth Lugo in the job until things settle down figured out. We're GONNA know we have the ninth inning locked down and then just you you know that like the the reaction. The average fan reaction to a game blown in the seventh seventh isn't going to be as painful to deal with as a game blown in the night but you might be losing just as many games because although as you noted with Christian Yelich we're now to the point there who even knows like what in eighteen games everything could be the thing. You're best like eight in eighteen games. The fact that you traded traded for you. Darvish could be the thing that cost you the world series or whatever like the thing that seems like the best possible thing could be the worst the worst thing could be the best and you just roll with did it but yeah. I think I'd stick with India's. I think but I mean what you want. Look it's hard and what you want is for life to be easy but it's often not and you just you have to deal with it and sometimes when it's hard there isn't a good option. Sometimes when it's hard you think you have a better option and it turns out to be the worst one so the mets just kind of have to hope that this thing that they got really unlucky on like they traded for a lockdown closer to lock down the ninth and the fact that Ed India's came over whether it's because he turn bad or whether it's because he turned unlucky from the mets perspective it they got unlucky. They traded for an awesome closer who didn't for no reason whatsoever they could have anticipated is suddenly one of the worst closers that's bad luck and so now you just hope that you get a little good luck or at least normal lock but it doesn't always happen. Sometimes sometimes bad things happen while we're on the topic of closer volatility. Can I talk about something else on the shared all right so I'll just say by the way with that trade probably complicates the situation further. Maybe it shouldn't but the fact that was the centerpiece of this direction of the franchise. Chai's defining move that you made and you gave up the guy who's now ranked twenty two in baseball among all prospects according to a mopey dot COM and that guy's making you look bad every day as Diaz makes. You look bad on the other end. That probably is part of it because if you you just decide all right well that's it were thrown in the towel here. Were not going to trust at Wendy s anymore than you're essentially admitting that you really blew that trade. No one wants to do that either at least broke even wagon and doesn't so that's water under the bridge and it probably shouldn't affect your decision making but that's always in the back of your mind to in this particular case yeah the the game that the mets game last night. I I assume I don't know I assumed Diaz was unavailable L. O. But I'm looking now and he hadn't pitched vertebrae so I don't really know I think I had the sound off but it was bizarre to watch. They had a one run lead and Justin Wilson was the was the closer closer that night and they brought him in in the eight and then he comes in in the ninth and he two guys get on with the tying run is on third. There's one out and and you're just watching Justin Wilson lefty face a bunch of righties. Oh although I guess could tell. Marta is a switch hitter so but all the same to like watch him go through light to to watch Justin Wilson facing could tell Marta in with one room and it worked. They got out of it. All more date grounded rounded out the first base and was all very wild but they won so they're in a mess right now but in episode. I think thirteen zero three you and Jeff. We're talking about all of drake specifically this. Is that Really Piqued Jeff I duNNo. This sounds so good. I almost feel like this is a joke that the Internet already knows about about somehow missed it but I think he was talking about how Oliver Drake's middle name is Oliver Gardiner Oliver Gardner Gardner. Do you remember this vaguely in his player. Nickname was something like a recco or a buck. Fuck bucky maybe buck. I think known as Bucko when he was growing up and Jeff said his name is Oliver Gardiner Drake. Obviously you go by Olive Garden which means you go buy bread sticks. His nickname should be breadsticks. That is unbelievable. Jeff is the the best but a jazz about our Oliver Drake. I think maybe his stat last time was about players moving around or something like that and maybe you you were done who knows but you start talking about. Oliver Drake and Jeff says he says you can have a guy like Oliver Drake who is bouncing around constantly not getting an opportunity to get settled I and then you can have a guy like Blake Parker similar sort of journeymen who just sort of wound up for several months as the closer for the angels now Blake Parker's presently out of a job he was not tendered a contract last week so he's out there and he's likely to just kind of float around and look for some sort of medium leverage role but the gap between someone like Oliver Drake and someone who has been closer in the majors is really shockingly small. All someone like Oliver Drake cast to do is keep five more splitters down low in the zone instead of hung out over the plate late and then all of a sudden. You have a guy who can pitch the eighth or ninth inning and the truth is Oliver. Drake probably leaves fifty splitters out over the zone in the year. It's just the only like eight of them. Get hit for homers and if you take five of those eight and they are low in his own or they get missed. Nell of neutrally grey zone anyway the end of that that offseason for both those was that Blake Parker actually ended up signing with Minnesota and he was the closer four first place team for the first half and then like after he was there closer he was just released in the middle of the season he was both they're closer and released in the middle of the season and Oliver Deliver Drake. Meanwhile is employed by the same people who employ Jeff and he got his second save the other day and he is pitching in high leverage right now and and has been and so I always liked to at the end of the year by the way he's pitching in high leverage he hasn't era point three runs lower than Blake Parker Headwind Wind Blake Parker got released but Oliver Drake etc.. I always liked to look at the end of the year at the closers at who the closers are and where they were at the beginning of the year and so I have I have here I have the I would say the nine best closer stories from twenty nineteen or at least the nine closers who it is it would have been hardest to tell me in March that he was going to be the closer and so they are. They're these are the nine. I think it's nine might be eight. The angels closer is Hansel who not who just one year ago was selected elected off waivers and he is now closer for a big market baseball team. Liam Hendriks is the as closer of course Blake China and last year was like maybe maybe the greatest closer of all time for a year and now it's Liam Hendriks who in the first outing of the year he pitched the fourth inning he didn't throw throw any high leverage inning of an extra innings when he was forced into it until may fourth that was only the sixth inning it happened to be a close game but it was only the sixth inning and then he he didn't throw another high leverage inning until June fourth so through June fourth through June third at least he had thrown one high leverage inning in the entire season. He's now ready as closer independent race. The braves closer is Mark milan-san mark milan-san Martin Lanson. There's an advertisement he does ads or he did ads for for the giants all that appeared giants radio for like a home mortgage company or something. I don't remember what it was but they had some fun some Pun some baseball pun on and he was like it's a relief something like that and and I just remember thinking like this sucks for the home mortgage company because I mean Mark Mark Melanson like famous closer like very successful signed up for year dealer five-year deal whatever it was with the giants to be a closer and the the pun uses like close you deal but they couldn't because he wasn't a closer anymore so it was like don't get caught caught in the middle or like we'll get a good setup or something like he was just like a low leverage reliever now well now. He's the closer for the braves who are one hundred win team mm-hmm and who traded for Shane Green and all star like a month ago and now it's Mark Melanson all right. This is what we're talking about here. Okay Amelio. Pagan is the raise closer not Oliver Drake but Emilio Pagan Emilio Pagan last year second lowest average average leverage index in all of baseball second lowest. He's a closer her for a team. In a pennant race Mariners Matt McGill is they're closer. He was purchased purchased in July. I have the same era with Seattle that he had with Minnesota but with Minnesota. He was essentially released in with the mariners owners. He's closer Jose. Rainha appears to be the MARLINS closer. He was their opening day starter. I don't know that that sounds better her than the number like you hear that you're like well okay but venue then you see how he got there. The rockies closer is high. Rodion says who I believe was a minor league free agent pick by a few years ago he through five Major League innings from Twenty Sixteen to twenty eighteen so he pitched in the majors in twenty fifteen through none in two thousand sixteen. He didn't digital he was injured. He threw five in twenty. He's seventeen any spent two thousand eighteen both injured and then also in the minors he was he the rockies closer you remember. I said that he was the rockies closer right now. Last ask summer he was released by the rockies and then he just hung around for a while in the rockies signed him again so that that shows how in demand High Road D- as was one one year ago he's now a closer and then Joe Human is tigers closer. He has a career war of negative zero point nine his career wars native zero point nine in three seasons and in those three seasons one year he was an all star in a second year. He became closer. It's a good list list man and so anyway that's that's the that's all the same story as India's basically different. It's different. It's a different tab in the same spreadsheet uh-huh and you could probably come up with a very similar listed most seasons rate if not all yeah no. That's what yeah that's what that's why I do it. It's always it's always always good and sometimes I write the article around this time I think last year I did or maybe the year before where I tried to predict who's going to be every teams closer one year later if they all met the archetypes that had been established by that year's closures in September and so like I had to find a player with five point seven era in short season ball. I had to find him because one of those guys was now a closer. So who would it be next year by the way I left off. One row in Wick I believe is currently currently the cubs closer and he has thrown more innings in triple A. Then he is thrown the majors this year he was acquired for someone named Jason Vase Ostler last year who had previously been picked up on waivers and he is now a closer for a team in a minute all right. I I don't want to turn this into a Michael Ren's and fun fact debate but we need to convenient tribunal to talk about the I ninety five to to testify nineteen thing that's going on here. I don't know what to make of this but I don't WanNa ruin anyone's fun but I don't get it. I don't understand the it's. It's a fun fact or the fun. Facts are that Bruce Bochy at least for one day was nineteen ninety five and two thousand nineteen his career win loss record from the years nineteen ninety five to two thousand eighteen and now it has been underst- that the mariners again for one day her also nineteen ninety five and two thousand nineteen since nineteen ninety five and I just I don't see it. I don't get it. I think more willing to go along with the frivolous fun fact maybe that you are. Maybe that was just the case with Lorenza but this is just not doing it for me. It's it's true true for one day and then it's not true. It'd be one thing if it were the end of the season. Yeah even then like it does anything but okay. I'd find it more satisfying satisfying that there was this confluence of wins and losses and years but it happened one day I mean I'm sure you could you could probably find similar similar stretches like this for teams and players and managers if you look hard enough just for one day and it's fleeting and that its overnight. I don't know sorry to rain on everyone's parade but this one is just not fulfilling my needs so you like the fun fact you just want it to last longer but yeah. I Sir you you. You don't like numerology fund fags. We're are not a accomplishment just coincidences yen there is. I don't know like the other day. Ben I re. I I had the most glorious revelation and I realize I'm going to say this and I realized I believe probably we. Everybody has had this revelation at some point. I am amazed that I have not heard it more L. My Gosh it's going to be so frivolous. I can't believe I'm setting you up to be disappointed like this. But have you ever noticed so what's what is tell me what what happens in the month of January what the New Year right sure Jan a New Year New Year. It's practically in the name. January eerie practically is doing if you say right. If you practice a little bit then you can leave it in here all right anyway the revelation that a lot of people. I told someone isn't anyone yeah. I know I the thought of that too anyway. The point is that there's nothing significant about New Year. Almost I kind of being in January but if your independence you like it when a word conveniently sounds like includes or can be somehow manipulated into another the word that's all a pun is upon his to all puns are words that do not actually have any intrinsic meaning. They are merely symbols that were assigned represent present meaning that somehow by coincidental convenience have some resemblance to each other that then you can turn into like the word play and this is just wordplay with numbers it. That's all it is. It's just like Oh wow what a coincidence I can for this moment in this convenient moment and I mean most puns only exist for a moment to like a pun headline usually only works for that particular news for that particular article and so for this moment meant you can make these numbers kind of like look like a thing and it you know we all know it doesn't mean anything it's all fake but it kind of has this sort of a feeling of like serendipitous. It is designed like Oh wow isn't it cute how the universe accidentally makes designs and that's all it is. I enjoyed it. I would say I enjoyed it like on a the skit like like on a one to ten. I would say I got like a three or a four of enjoyment. I have no problem with somebody publishing it on on a micro blogging logging platform. I would say that I don't need to see a lot and seen a whole lot and if it had ended the year if the year it ended on that then I would have said like seven or eight then that would have been really liked every than it would have been released. Look all Chris. Davis is all the to forty. Seven stuff is the same thing. It's just like wow what a weird coincidence. There is nothing in intrinsically more consistent about Chris Davis because it's two forty seven then if if one of those had been to forty eight if you've gotten one extra plate appearance that made it impossible for him to get to forty seven but we like it we like it. It's sort of fun so the two forty seven is like like an eight or a nine or maybe even at ten is probably tend to be honest. ADS attend like how could it be. It's impossible that the mobile yeah it's but this is not even improbable really oh no because you have right you have whatever so many combinations of a few years records days not really though because you're you have to have the number of wins that is realistically divided by the number of years since the year that you are starting a thing in so you can't have one. It's very unlikely for instance that any team's GonNa have nineteen hundred eleven wins since nineteen eleven so you have some narrow window button thing are aren't we just searching for the combination that works at there's nothing thing about nine thousand nine hundred two thousand nineteen for the mariners. That's I mean what is that. That's they won. They won the Johnson pitch in and around the thing and maximum bid on but there's nothing about that period you what are they from nineteen ninety four to two thousand eighteen. It's just yeah probably not you know so. It's you're just kind of backwards engineering the fun fact it seems it's like at least not like that's when his tenure started. That was the beginning of his career with the padres at that point. I did not know there was the mariners won and the mariners. One is is definitely like a one or a two because you're right. There's nothing particularly significant about the mariners one. I don't think it's quite as common as you think it is that you could. I mean look numerology. That's the whole point of numerology. It's all because of you. Try enough combinations. You'RE GONNA find. You're gonNA find the thing so yeah. You're right it. It is just reverse engineering to find something that you can sell like like a psychic or something but the boji one would've would've been cool if it is already like a cooler than the mariners one. It's a three the mariners like a one or two or maybe it's a four if if it had it ended his career if he had if he that had been the last day of the season for if it had been the mariners it'd be like a five if it had been bocce it would've been like nine or an eight maybe and and if he had found out about this and said well that's that I'm leaving. I'm going to leave early and left then it would have been a ten and it would have been much because nobody could care less about this than Bruce Bowen she does and if he had actually been like no kidding Flan. You're the manager now. Tim flannery already retired to Hensley Meulens. He still around. You're the manager now anyway anyway yeah. I think what this teaches me is that I'm just really not very good at predicting the vitality of fun facts or really of anything in general but you'd think I could at least assess which fun facts would be everywhere and probably have it's not like random chance but I would. It's not have known if I had seen this original reddit thread. I would have thought okay that was worship reddit thread that that clears the extremely low bar for what is worth reddit thread but I wouldn't have thought everyone in the world is going to pick this up and aggregate it and tweet it because I just didn't have that reaction when I read it and yet this has been everywhere. I I know Ben even on fun facts that I care about. I'm still I'm not very good at predicting him and a couple of years ago. I had a I had. I had an article that was a bit it was the whole article which is Mike Trout Fun facts and I one of the might trout fun fun facts which I didn't think all that much was was buried in there and it was just one in fact in an article and then a few weeks later somebody did a reddit reddit thread on with just that fun fact and then they linked to to the article like the way that read it you know headlines do but they didn't credit me in the tax so there was the fun facts and then there was the link and I went wow that got a reddit no kidding and then someone else wrote a blog post about the fun fact linking to the Reddit page and then not crediting me directly at all and that thing got like five thousand retweets tweets and couldn't believe it and I see it now. I see it all the time. I see that I am not all the time but I see that fun fact once a month which one was I'm. I'M NOT GONNA I don't want to it's a friend who accidentally this okay all right. This is from Andrew Patrick Patriots Supporter in reference to the Darvish discussion that we had about you dovish as many pitch types. Do you think we'll ever reach a point where certain pitchers just don't have repertoires per se. They'll have have such mastery over their mechanics that can just sort of gopher break and run or whatever on demand like one pitch just transfer three to four inches of drop on the lower half then he goes for a big drop inside but as mastery of mechanics is such that he's not limited to what we would call pitches if they had to be classified so it will there be an end to pitch types and everything will just be gradations and variations said shades yeah so i. I like the concept apt I I think that there is some truth to the broadening ability of a pitcher to as as we Vaughn to really be able to manipulate if you late velocity and movement on each pitches in a much wider band. That seems very plausible to me. I think the hitch types themselves. Are there so so structurally different in the way that you grip them in whether you're basically going with the seams are against the seams whether you're raking your wrists or not whether you're I mean there's there's big big sort of structural genre type differences and so. I don't think that you're liable to see a total i. I don't think it's possible for them to all bleed into each other. I think that you can have siders that look more like fastballs and you can have herbals with more like changeups mm something maybe but you can't. They're different pitches. They're not thrown in similar up ways that you could really ever radical kind of bunching of those pitch types yeah. I'm imagining a pitch plot like you see like Harry. pavlidis looks at when he's classifying pitches for baseball and there are clusters and and it helps that they're different colors once they're classified so you can see these receptor pitch types but they're still clusters. It's not like a big cloud where where you can't really differentiate from one to another there are places where they bunch up in congregate and other places where there's no pitch that has that combination Asian of movement and velocity and to some extent this happens obviously pitcher sort of fitness their pitches so they might take a little off off put a little more on maybe they changed their finger position just subtlety to get a little more movement of a certain type deep on one pitch than they do on another but you're not going to confused dramatically different pitches that break like in different directions wins entirely for one another so. I think you're probably right that. They're they're still have to be some distinctions and you still have to be able to say a that was that pitch and and that was not obviously with certain pitches. That's tougher to do than other certain pitchers. Their pitches are not so so clearly defined or at least some of their pitches or not and that could be kind of a tricky classification problem was that this was at that but yeah I I think there's still some orders to what a pitch type is because you have to hold it in a certain way and in a dramatically different orientation orientation of seems that I think you can probably always distinguish one from another but I also like the I like the breakdown of traditional final pitch types just someone finding ways to like get into all the inbetween spaces like we're GonNa do this. It would be Darbyshire set cranky or or someone one. They seem to have experimented as bad as much as you can and yet you can still identify pitch types even though with darvish it's like here's the slow curve and here's the regular curve serve but it's still a curve yeah it would I'm trying to think. Would it totally selfishly at for analysis. Would it be more funner less fun. Would it be just so frustrating to not be able to deduce pitcher intent since you wouldn't be able to necessarily know what he was trying to do. You wouldn't be able to separate the pitches into those buckets that give you a a reasonable sense of predictability in intention yeah. That sounds like a nightmare right even just as a writer like having to describe what a pitch was how often it's just so handy to be able to say that was lighter and this was a curveball to just say that was a pitch. I don't know it moved this many inches and was thrown this hard but can't really call it anything other than that. That'd be a problem and yeah just trying to figure out like well well. This guy has a good pitch that he's not throwing enough and here are the results on that pitch should maybe he should throw it more. This would just muddy everything it would make it very difficult to do a lot of the analysis that we do all right all right too quick updates after we recorded. Anthony Tacoma reported that Wilson Ramos will be catching Ching Noah syndergaard in his next start on Friday. So syndergaards request appears to have been denied again and also the brewers one and the cubs lost so we now have a tie for the second wildcard with the phillies mets and diamondbacks all within two and a half games so things are getting pretty exciting that will do it for today. Thanks for listening. You can support port podcast unpatriotic by going to pitcher dot com slash effectively wild appalling. Five listeners have already signed up. Put some small amount to help keep the podcast. It's going and gotten themselves access to perks Maasim Yuliana Tana Stephan Sanderson Matthew Fong Lewis Euler and Mackenzie. What thanks twelve you you can join our facebook group at facebook dot com slash group. 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11: The tale of the golden dropping

Baalgatha- Classic Stories for Children

05:43 min | 1 year ago

11: The tale of the golden dropping

"From stories about animals and birds. Your details of kings and Queens. Let your child. Listen to them on while gutter. The podcast that naturally entertains, but also educates you chime. Details of the golden dropping. Won A special BUD name Sindhu goal. Who lived in a huge tree on the dollar for mountain. winco dropping fell on the. The would turn into. One. Hundred wonder to the top off the mountain. Not even to catch any bullets. Decided to take some risks another huge tree. From the top of that tree. Syndergaard this Josh droppings which failed near the hunt. As soon as the droppings touched the ground. Determined to. The hunt was one the struck. He taught. All these yawns I've been catching bonds. AM, NAM For Boards Droppings Don in Bogor. These spatial ball. Chiming have to get. According. The hunter setup a chap on the tree. Which SYNDERGAARD did not new? Who was waiting nearby? Immediately bootle in a cage. Started bluebirds. All on and on the League. The board depended met shoeless. Give us not to building the trap. While on. The Hunt Dot paw. If I heave this board. I will become rich. Every one maybe suspicion. Some, being some one will come to the chew of the riches. The king. Instead if I present the ball to the team. Will be happy and reward me with whatever he offers mean retail. So he went straight to the palace and told about the board. In how gifted it was. Now the king was delighted to have a board who stopping stone into gold. And asked his attendance to treat the board. As if she would a member of the royal family. Proper care of this board. Lavish gauge. Played. Mortal? Transpired one of the king's ministers requested. I'll Canavan dropping dawn Gore's. How can you trust this man? Who is not knowledgeable? I advise you. Release the cage and left the board goal. For the hunter knees punishing Boris Forgery. Keen ponder over the words of distrusted. Knowledgeable minute still. In. Asda's God's to arrest the hundred. Lease the bowed. commanded. Swimmer Hag the board read. Few Up. Botched himself at the top of a nearby. She discharged her droppings. which to the amazement of the pink and his ministers. Thrown into gold. King realized that he had made honesty. And he ordered his guards to catch the board. But Luca. Who by now was slapping her wings on becoming three. Store Sale. To weekend so again. And flew off when no body could catch again. The king. His minister. And the hunter were disappointed at the loss. There was nothing anybody could do about it. From the store. that. We need to verify the facts and check them. Even things that seemed to be impossible. To. Did you today's episode? If so we would love to hear your feedback. You leave a review on your favorite podcasting at oversight all visit, Bunka Dot com slash, review they you could leave us a message in audio video optics.

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No Time To Panic

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

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No Time To Panic

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These baseball tonight the podcast. This is the baseball tonight podcast or Tuesday, February twenty six two thousand nineteen. I'm BUSTER only and thank God. We've got a professional on the show today. Dan, standing stepping in for Josh macrey. You went to the NFL combine, Dan, thanks for joining us. I'm so glad that you're in place. A Josh, of course, BUSTER I'm here for you. Okay. So who's your team? We always have to stab us that when folks drop in and a podcast. So I was born and raised in Syracuse New York and for my tire life there. They were the triple a affiliate of the Toronto Blue Jays. So I'm a Blue Jays fan through and through World Series. When I was young and not a whole lot sense. Oh, that's a tough run. It was a rough two decades. But once they made the plans, again, if years back, it was it made the the losing worth how fired up you about black junior. I can't wait. He he's like the next best thing in baseball. So the fact that he's going to be a blue Jay makes me pretty happy. If you. Yeah. Yeah. You're right minute. Maid April service time in relation today. We're going to be talking with Mark Shera about everything going on we Clayton Kershaw. And with Bryce Harper. We're gonna be talking with Dave shown field and Sarah Lang's will join us with a numbers game. I news notes. Dave Roberts spoke with reporters about the dodgers meeting with Bryce Harper on Sunday. It was good just kind of trying to get to know each other. And I think in the spirit of says the dodgers betting a certain process makes sense. And for those guys do their dudes as well as we reported yesterday. The dodgers are interested in a shorter term deal. Very short term deal. Relative. To the massive contract. That the Phillies have offered and Dave Roberts was asked about whether they not they could get Harper for the short term not realistically being able to have also a long term deal is it realistic that perhaps on a shorter term deal with a decent navy that you guys get him to spring. You know, I I really can't speak to that right now by personally have to just focus on sixty one guys that are so. As far as any other player gets better. If an Andrew question he's referring to Andrew Friedman. That question was asked by Alana Rizzo of the dodgers television network Roberts also gave an update to reporters about Clayton Kershaw who tried to play catch yesterday. And apparently didn't feel so great. He didn't feel great. And so where he's at right now. In might be another day or two till he picks it up again. So right now, I think it's safe to say you didn't feel great coming out of it. So we're that you know has us right now. I really don't know. But I know probably take a step back in until he starts feeling better. I think the medical suss got a handle on it and all touch base to them this evening and figure out the course of action for platen. But right now, we don't have an MRI sniffy. It's not ideal. And you know, you hope when he picks up the ball. There's you know, he comes out and feeling better. So obviously, it's not ideal. But you know, we'll deal with whatever comes our way. Kurt Sandovol ABC seven in Los Angeles was on with Freddie and Fitz. Simons any talk first about Scott Boris, and the dodgers everybody here is wondering is Scott Boras playing the dodgers why would Bryce Harper to a five year deal with the dodgers? I can see him doing maybe a two year deal Rabi. But if the Phillies are already offering him over three hundred million for ten years the dodgers aren't going to play that game. There's no way. Sandovol address that concern about Mr. Kershaw, the normal thing is okay. He's been off as you know. It's a lot of guys have a little tweaks, but they gave him rest. They've done the anti inflammatories. And tonight Roberts said he wasn't good. And all he did was played catch. The reason. That's big news is not just because he's the number one guy the rotation then he's Clayton Kershaw. But the past two years is numbers of not as ERA, but he's starts in endings pitched have really fallen off the cliff because of back injuries. And so everyone says well, this is shoulder not his back. They're all connected and his age and with that great curveball that he throws. You just wonder boy, it's a it's a big concern. Let's get to it. Sarah's a former all star works as a baseball analyst for ESPN. And Tex the word out of the dodger campus in Clayton Kershaw felt not so good yesterday. And he's not even in a position to to pick up a ball at this point. He's gonna rest the dodgers haven't formally come out and said, yes, he's not going to pitch opening day. But at this point that's a given. Right. It feels like they're just being polite in not making that announcement. Because if you're not playing catch at the end of February you're not gonna start an opening day. What do you think I agree with you BUSTER, and this may sound crazy? I think the dodgers can win this division without Clayton Kershaw. And that's not I it doesn't disparage Creighton Clayton Kershaw because he's one of the best pitchers of of all time. But you look at the dodgers right now. Walker? Bueller is is arguably their ace. Anyway, you got Richhill Kenta mate? Ross stripling hundred zero. I mean, you have all of these pitchers that can give you depth win. They're gonna. Need Clayton Kershaw is gonna need him to be strong and healthy in October. That's how you win a World Series. I don't worry about him on opening day. Or even the first half of the season. I won't Clayton Kershaw ought to be strong the second half. And in Dr over I always thought that the the whole opening gay thing. And, you know, a knucklehead reporters like myself foot would ask players you're going to be ready for opening day. I always thought that was kind of silly because it just felt like such an artificial deadline from the perspective of a player. How did you feel? I I agree. You always want to be a part of opening day. Because it's it's just a it's a big part of your season. And you do care that you wanna be a part of that team on opening day that being said there's one hundred sixty two games. Right. So if you're not on the roster if you're not active on opening day and you show up in mid April. Or even the first of may, it's not that big of a deal. The dodgers can withstand him being gone for a little while. Yeah. And you mentioned the depth in their rotation. They also have the ability during the year, let's say for argument's sake that this is for Clayton Kershaw whose thrown so many his career as a lot of mileage on his arm. Let's say that he doesn't wind up pitching that much this year. Not only have the depth that you just laid out. But they also have the ability make trade in midseason. So I think there's no panic on the part of the dodgers in dealing with this and they've dealt with his absence in recent years. I think that he's had seventy four starts the last three seasons. He's missed month month and a half every season. Yeah. Clayton Kershaw is at a point where he's been such a workhorse his entire career that it may be beneficial for him just to take a few months off anyway, and you know, one of the reasons that that I've pointed to his October straw, if you can say October struggles, you know, maybe why he's not an ace in October is because he's a workhorse all year long and at this point in his career. Maybe it's not terrible to take some time off early. So want to run this past too. Because you of course, you know, years in the major leagues, and you have the perspective of a player last week. I had a really interesting conversation with a baseball executive who like you. And like me, he's got kids. And he said that basically is baseball implements these onfield changes like the twenty second pitch clock. They should pick their battles. And his point was you know, what gives the veterans some latitude in focus on changing the habits of the younger players who've come up through the minors with a pitch clock. And so he's going to write this column today. Baseball has a ton of examples in its history where they essentially allowed veterans to continue with things that they were doing and they were grandfather in a new role, for example back in. I think it was nineteen twenty they banned the spitball, but guys like Burleigh Grimes. They're like, you know, what you rely on that you've been relying on it for years. Go ahead in one thousand nine hundred seventy they put in rules about wearing a helmet, but they told. Veteran players if you're comfortable not wearing a helmet, you can just wear a cap and up in through one thousand nine hundred seventy nine Bob MC Gumri was a catcher for the Red Sox. He didn't even wear helmet for almost a decade after that. And after that conversation, I thought you know, what with things like the twenty second clock in a max Scherzer is on the mound. And he's you know, veteran player Dustin Pedroia has been playing forever. And he's got that routine has between pitches. Just leave those guys alone and make these new rules apply to players who started in the major leagues after two thousand fifteen which is when they implemented the twenty second clock in the minors. And that way the players who've had come through the minors with this maybe more comfortable with it. The rules would apply to them, but not necessarily the veterans. What do you think? I understand the the reasoning. I just don't agree that that's the way to go. I mean, I got player players like max Scherzer. They're going to just are John Lester say the same thing. I mean pitchers that are. I used to taking their time. I mean, twenty seconds is plenty of time in between pitches. I mean, I I played against the the quickest guy in baseball and Mark Burleigh for for years. And Mark Burleigh one of the reasons he was so good is because he got right back up on the mound. So, you know, I I just don't I'm not a big fan of, you know, one set of rules for a group of guys in a different set of rules for others. I think that players will adjust and it might take a couple of months, but we're going there were major league baseball can do this. You know, this BUSTER I mean, major league baseball can unilaterally put this rule into place and have a twenty second pitch clock. And I think they should do it. How do you feel about that? I is a player where basically baseball is gonna come down with a hammer and say, this is the way it's going to be and how do you feel about it as a baseball fan? I like it from both standpoints when my towards the end of my career BUSTER, I'd be sitting at first base, you know, like Cussing under my breath for my pitchers to throw the ball. And and. It's a problem for for fans, and especially young fans that want pace of play. They want action. They're used to seeing you know basketball. They're used to you know, all these kids are watching soccer nowadays where it's just constant action. And if we can take five seconds in between pitches and shave that off of the game get the game move and a little bit more. I think it will allow fans to enjoy baseball much bore. You've been involved in a high profile negotiation when you were free agent. The Red Sox were involved. The Yankees were involved. Other teams were involved. Tell me what you're seeing Bryce Harper negotiations. I mean, I think it's late. I think it's February twenty six and by this point in time. Wouldn't you think that we figure out where he's going to land? And the teams would have drawn lines in the sand. I heard about you know, the Phillies are going to draw a line in the sand. It's February twenty six free training games are already started. If I if I'm Bryce Harper, and I have a three hundred plus million dollar offer on the table. I take it because that's a whole bunch of money for a guy who who's had a little bit of injury history who had a one point three war last year, which is which was below average among position players. I mean, I just don't understand what's taking so long and Bryce Harper is a great player, and maybe he just doesn't wanna play in Philly. But for me, this is taken an awful long time. Yeah. And from a practical standpoint, this has been noted to me by baseball executive by some agents, given the pressure that he's going to be under. If in fact, he winds up with the Phillies, you would think that it would behoove him to make decision and to get encamp because again, you can speak to this as someone who is a high profile agent in you you sign with the team though, you did it in December. If I remember correctly, but these these folks are saying, look, let's say he reaches an agreement today. And there's a press conference on Friday. Then when he arrives in Phillies camp, he's got to get to know his teammates. He's gonna have marketing people coming at him. He's gonna media relations people come in atom. He's gonna have idiots like me coming at him asking for its time. And he's also going to have to prepare for the season. And if you're the Phillies, or if you're the dodgers, and you're going to spend thirty thirty five million dollars on this player this year. We're starting to get to the point where you might be concerned about how this truncated spring training might affect them on the. Field you buy complete. I completely agree. I think there's there is there are many instances where players sat out a part of spring training, and we're affected for the year. Because if you get off to a bad, April may and in the back of your mind, you're saying, well, I didn't have a full spring spring training and you start trying to play catch up. You can bet season can spin out of control. And so now Bryce offers a great player, and he may have no problem with it. But I think the bigger issue is the first question from the Philly media is going to be, hey, dude, what are three hundred million not good enough for you back in December or January? I mean, wh what took you so long and Bryce will have, you know, a kind of a statement and prepared answer for this. But the toughest fans in baseball are Philly fans. You know, maybe the the most exciting and crazy and rabid fans might be in New York and Boston. But the toughest fans are in Philly, and he's gonna. To have some answering that first day of spring training. If indeed he does sign with the Phillies, and you mentioned that it was that that thought was cited by number of the people I talked to yesterday, and you mentioned the idea of setting a deadline or suggestion. I wrote that column yesterday saying that it's gotten to the point with him and for the fillies if they believe they have the highest offer on the table, and they have for weeks and they've talked to him for weeks. It some point you need to put an expiration date on it. So look, you know, you need by by Friday this week you need forty eight hours. We're putting a deadline on this. And it was interesting. Because after I posted that column I heard from a number of agents and executives did most of the time the idea of a deadline negotiation is stupid. But if you're in the Phillies position now it's a little bit like playing poker. And you feel like the other side is bluffing. The suggestion that maybe Scott Boris his other three hundred billion dollars plus offers if you're not buying that that. That would be part of the reason for putting a deadline on top of what we talked about getting Bryce into camper getting a decision, and maybe overcoming your own concerns about whether or not he actually wants to play for you you buy. I I agree. And I'm also I'll add one more thing here BUSTER, if I'm the Phillies, I then pivot to Dallas kaikal and or Craig kimbrel because you know, the Phillies I believe they were eleventh at fifteen teams in offense last year in the National League. And they were eleven out of fifteen teams in pitching. So you know, they got David Robertson to to help the bullpen. But they could surely use a kimbrel. Type the back out of the bullpen. They could surely use another starting pitcher in Dallas kaikal. So if I want to take that thirty to forty million bucks and spread it around. I need to have some sort of deadline from Bryce Harper to then go pivot other free agents. Yeah. And the interesting part of that too is Dallas Tikal is represented by scholars. Head. So you wonder how that affects the conversation? One agent said to me yesterday said Scott won't even let them get into that until they resolve the Bryce Harper thing. So he can continue to use them as leverage, which is tough. Because if I'm Dallas kaikal, I'm saying, hey, man. I don't care where Bryce Harper signs. I'm young winner. I had I had a good season last year. Where's my contract? It's just you know, it's it's a tough situation. I think you know, ultimately, the market is the market, right? If you think you're worth four hundred million dollars. But there's not a team out there willing to pay you four hundred million dollars. You're not gonna get it. And if if you wanna play on the west coast, you're going to have to take whatever the best offer from a west coast team is going to be and that's the free agency works both ways. It's not like players get to play wherever they want text. Thanks for doing this. So he's great insight. Always fun. Buster have a good one. Consider show. Welcome to the show opens show. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show. Maybe you're in the show with demon show and fees. That's right. Welcome in the show. Dave good to heavy back. And it's great. The Josh is not here because we make the and make fun of him in his absence. We had a great Twitter question last week it which a tweet asked is it better? Would you rather have eight twenty five home or guys or ako Glover's and Tim Kirk gin, and I had the exact same response. So did you that of course, you'd want the gold Glover's Josh macrey sticking with the nineties theme of chicks dig the long ball said. Of course, you want the twenty five Homer guy, you actually dug into this question. It did some research. Well, first of all, Josh, I know you're listening somewhere. Thanks for worst scene out today. But Bob, yeah. Listen to your elders. We know. No. Yes. So BUSTER, I went back to two thousand nine and basically if you just ask this if you took an average twenty five Homer guy, actually, I considered guys at twenty three to twenty seven. It was a little larger pool, and then average gold Glover at each position the goal glove team kicks there, but cumulative walk for the gold glove team thirty seven point nine which would be a great team that would be higher than the position player war for any individual team last year. So thirty seven point nine and the average war or the total war for the twenty-five Homer team twenty six point two. So our goal glove team is eleven wins better. Not even close take the goal Glover's. Dan. Can you believe Josh miss that missed on that one? I mean that seems like such an easy answer. And yet, he totally blew it. I'll tell you what I got to stand up for my guy. Josh share? You gotta score ride baseball the win. You can have a great defense. But if you don't. Score. You don't win. This is the problem. The perception is that go Glover's can't hit while think of who are some of the gold Glover's out there right now. Oh, Mookie Betts. Maybe the best defender in the game at any position Nolan. Erin. Oh, yeah. Love every season yada ear Molina a very good hitting catcher. So again, you added up the goal Glover's like they're the major league. So they can hit it some level. And some of them are really good hitters, so they're good. They're going to win the twenty five home or team. You get a mix. You get some really good players. But you also get a lot of one dimensional sluggers with low on base percentages in bad defense. And that's why the gold glove team is better. Right. So I'm going to relieve you of any responsibility of having to weigh in on the Bryce Harper conversation because we're kind of getting sick of it. And I said on radio the other day that I feel like we're in mild twenty five of the twenty six mile Bryce Harper marathon. So let's talk about instead what we saw from Noah Syndergaard yesterday excited to see Ronnie Dawson play. Now, he's got a tough draw facing Noah Syndergaard. But he's he's a guy that, you know, about, but you haven't heard much about because there's so many other guys very good athlete swinging amiss, and that will retire decide. Bitching on point scoreless. He was absolutely dominant. Dave where he was throwing up to ninety nine miles per I read one tweet that he hit one hundred one miles per hour. He was pitching to both sides of the plate exchanged messages this morning with Dave island their pitching coach and he agrees. He's on a mission. He worked out like crazy in the offseason. He clearly is working on his delivery to slow down the running game. They throw out a runner during the course of his two innings. I, you know, you do wonder if all the talk about degrom last year all the talk about a degrom extension. Nice little motivation for Mr. Syndergaard. And I feel like that he is in a position where he's going to go from one of the somebody who's a really good pitcher to this year. Maybe going into the upper echelon, what do you think? Yeah. He's he's on the brink. My first reaction was why you throw a ninety nine in your first start a spring training. But if you're in shape, you're ready to go. Maybe it's not that big of a concern. But yeah. Yeah. Ever really, you know, his breakout performance in that two thousand fifteen postseason we've been waiting. He had to six oh Yara in two thousand sixteen. Then he got hurt missed a little more tight last year. But there's no doubt the stuff is a plus stuff is good as anybody in the game. Yeah. Hey, they can have the two best pitchers in the National League this year. Nobody would be shocked with those results. Now, the perspective that I got from someone who is there about his velocity. He said, yeah. When you see the ninety eight early in spring, it's a little bit jarring. But he said his motion was so easy. Like it was just a comfortable. I'm playing catching them throw a ninety eight. And it didn't look like that. He was humping up to get to that velocity. What do you think? Yeah. No. That makes sense might question for you BUSTER with Syndergaard in we're nitpicking here. But if you if you look into the numbers, the surprising number is always been his fastball. As fast as it is. As has been relatively hit -able, which is why is hits per innings is up there with the max Shire's of the world. I don't know if that because it straight and people see it or if he's still kinda learning how to pitch and maybe like you mentioned at the outset hitting the corners a little more rather than just trying to blow up by batters. So if he can, you know, get a little better pinpoint control with that fastball. I think that's what gets them to that that site young level. It does feel like he's going through an ever Lucien of thought. I don't have the article in front of me. But I read a piece where he talked about how in recent years. He's thrown a lot of two seam. Fastballs probably to get the movement that you refer to but he feels like this year he wants to establish his four seam or a lot more. We've seen a lot of pitchers in in the last couple of years begin to pitch in the upper half of the strike zone. Maybe Sean Doolittle reliever from the nationals is the best example that maybe that's the weapon that Syndergaard feels like that he hasn't fully. We used and we saw a couple of examples that yesterday where he's beating some of the asteroid hitter's up in the upper part of the strike zone. So he'll be fun to watch this year. No question about it. And I'm hoping that Byron Buxton will be fun to watch. He certainly add himself a day on Monday. Give a listen. You definitely wonder what his emotion levels. Here's a pitch to Buxton who trails one. Hi, this is hit pretty well out by the wall, and it's gone for to run over. Carrying that wind is blowing that way, and he got one high and heath to laugh wiring FOX in his having a day with five RBI. Fiber RBI three hits he's five for five. So foreign spring training. You look, I think you would I would agree spring training results or basically meaningless but Buxton coming off is incredibly frustrating two thousand eighteen season went into the winter with a plan put on some weight gain some strength, and it feels like when you look at his history that he is a momentum type guy in other words when he starts to slumpy might get into his own head. And so while the numbers himselves don't mean anything the fact that he's off to a good start and gets early positive reinforcement from his work. I think that can only be a good thing. What do you think? Yeah. Absolutely. We've seen some really nice runs for him September of sixteen hit a huge months. Second half in two thousand seventeen I would live. We did a list of some of the most important players of this season. I would have Buxton right at the top. I think the twins. They have a chance to compete with Cleveland and the. Aol central even in two thousand seventeen when you look at his offense of numbers there. Okay. Not great. But his defense was so good. He was an extremely valuable player. In fact, he got some MVP votes down the ballot that year if he can even just hit at the level. He had in two thousand seventeen this is an all-star level player in my book and the twins really really need him out there in center field. Yeah. And he's twenty five. Now, he's not twenty two like this is a big year for him. Speaking of fast guys, Billy Hamilton with the reds. We kept on waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting while. He's in Cincinnati for the offense that come for the basic common. It never really did. And I agree with you. I think this is a huge year for him and everybody who has ever dealt with Byron Buxton just raves about the type of person that he is. So I was excited to see that yesterday. I've got no more when Gonzales a little bit also someone who very respected by teammates when into free agency. Last fall, the initial from his agent Scott Boras was in the rain. Of sixty million dollars over four years and the other day he signed a two year twenty one million dollar deal with the twins. And that shocked people in the industry who thought that he would get at least three years. I think there's a great signing for the twins. And I'm stunned at Marlin didn't get a third year given his versatility his experience. And the fact that he's you know, as of today just twenty nine hundred thirty in the month of March. I can't believe he didn't get that third year. Yeah. No, I with you know, maybe we're supposed to fight more on this podcast. But. Super valuable utility guy that you pointed his age that was a big thing to me you're getting thirty and thirty one third year at age thirty two unlike a lot of utility guys, you know, our bench guys today you can play shortstop. He's not just a four corner guy. So the twins. Yeah. I guess you know, it's insurance for Miguel Sonoda third or Jonathan scope at second. You can play a coroner fill in at short. Yeah. You know, has some powers which hitter. I mean, what is there not to like about this guy? He's been a that sort of underrated player on Houston the last few seasons. So I'm with you, great signing, and yeah, absolutely surprised. He didn't get three years. Yeah. I wouldn't they have the twenty five year anniversary of the two thousand seventeen championship team. And he's introduced he's going to get a huge tear because that home running hit off kenley Jansen was I felt like the crossroad in that whole World Series demonstrating. He can do it in the big stage. Yeah. And I love. The bench guys not only the versatility. But you know, the switch hitting so you can bring them off the bench in the middle of the game to get the platoon advantage. You know, when when when you only have three or four bench players in this day and age a guy who can do everything not just in the field. But from either side of the plate just increases his value. And yet maybe two thousand seventeen when he slugged five thirty maybe that was a career year, but still had an opium over seven hundred slugged over four hundred gets on Bet's draw some walks. Just just a really nice ballplayer. Troy till whiskey is trying to prove that he can be a good ball player. Again. This is to Lewinsky playing against the Blue Jays on Monday against his former teammate Marcus Stroman in the first inning giving. Listen, here's the one of the newest Choi tuna, whiskey and the people I talked to today raving about the way he looks. He's almost pre injury to its. What's? Sky the right field and beat that. Two weeks. One. Okay. It was watching Yankee dining because the last week which he's been swinging the bat very well. One way to do yourself that you do. Yeah. Michael. Okay. Ken singleton on the. Yes network and his to it's ski rounded the basis he was screaming in the direction of the Toronto dugout, and I was imagining you had the Blue Jays new staff of a they got a new manager. They got new coaches, and they're looking at each other going really, Marcus Stroman was might have been on the other end of that. And maybe wasn't personal. But don't tell Troy Lewinsky, then a spring training home run doesn't mean anything he's Hyper-motivated after being released by the Blue Jays in the off season, which he told reporters afterward after the game. And he said, hey, this organization that told me I couldn't play anymore. I feel like the Yankees are getting a player. I it's like the, you know, when you break up after a long term relationship, and you're the rebound person. Man. The Yankee seem like they're going to benefit from that. Yeah. No, dad. We know the story. He's has to stay healthy. You know, he's thirty four now missed all of last season. You know, but yeah, the Yankees, I think they have a history of kind of. Picking up guys like this. Yup. Getting some some performance out of them. And obviously the motivation is there even when he was battling these injuries. He remained a good defensive shortstop. You know, he's going to be hitting seventh or eighth or something in that line of. They don't need to be there number three hitter. So. Yeah, it it's a guy we wanna root for. He was such a great player is peak. You know, let's hope he's out there on the field. You know, four or five days a week for the Yankees, Dan. How was it for you to see him circle the bases in yelling at the Blue Jays in being all fired up about this? Did it make you grind your teeth to loan ever heard of them? Now, I will say this that I do Toronto radio once a week. And they asked me the question about this was this a case where the Blue Jays didn't believe in the player or are. They just wanted turn the page. I think it was a ladder. You know, we've always heard things in recent years about the clubhouse culture and jazz tunnels who was traded last year. And Russell Martin nearing the end of his career. They moved him out. They let Troy till Lewinsky go, I wonder if the Blue Jays thought, you know, what there's a chance he might come back and help, but we're trying to build a new thing. And we really can't do it with these older guys sitting around you buy that total reboot. I'm all in on that. Yeah. And that's why I feel like although he's going to it looks like he's going to haunt the Blue Jays all year. I think it made sense for them to do what they did because they certainly weren't going to get anything in return. Given the fact that what they're paying him like nineteen points six million dollars this year before that exhibition game the announced Aaron Hicks gets a seven year contract for seventy million dollars. Dave you and. I talked about this whole notion of with all the labors climate not being great that we're seeing a lot of young players just grabbing deals and trying to take money out like they're on a Bank run. And I think this was the latest example that it's a stunning contract. When you think that Aaron Hicks is young younger than AJ Pollock who signed a four year sixty million dollar deal with the dodgers in the offseason. So the Yankees get more years of control a for a younger player than Pollick. And Hicks is only what six months away from free agency. I think it gives you some again an example of insight into how players around baseball or feeling anxious about what's going on yet. No, absolutely. A guy like Hicks. Who was a late bloomer, you know, but he's really become a nice nice player. You know, I guess there's enough uncertainty out there he'd be twenty nine or no you'd be thirty entering his free agent year. Obviously, we're seeing teams you know shy away from anybody in their thirties. So yeah. Grabbed the money while you can for the Yankees. I don't see how this deal financially goes wrong for them. Hicks is too good of a player not to earn back that money. Even just in the first three or four years of that deal. Probably not a center fielder for the length of that. Pretty big guy. I don't think he's going to remain in center for seven seasons, but he can move to a corner after a few years. I think it's a good deal for both guy for both team and player. Yeah. Unbelievable. He's not gonna make more. I think in reading the the details of it. He's not gonna make more than ten point two million dollars per season. That's an incredible bargain. Yeah. Three point nine war and seventeen four point seven last year. I mean, this guy's going to easily be twenty million dollar player in the next couple of years in on paper value, so absolute potential bargain for the ankles. And by the way, wouldn't shock me. If you see a continual wave of deals like this as we go through spring training, you say Kukuchi made his Mariners debut yesterday. He looked terrific showing off a great curveball. You saw the reaction of Joey Votto, when he sort of gave a half hearted swing through one of those curveballs, and he gave a look out to the like, really? Wow. And he told reporters with great respect afterward about how unusual is curve ball as he cited. Clayton Kershaw is as a left hander in baseball throws a curve ball like that young Jin Ryu. But they're just not that many. I I love that snapshot that we got to him yesterday. How about you? Yeah. He gave up two runs in the second inning. But they were unearned yet or a couple of years behind him hit ninety five on his fastball. Looks good obviously, we know it's spring training. It's early but a lot of positive buzz for Mariners camp about what they've seen so far from Kukuchi. So could be a nice little stealth pickup there from Jerry DiPoto. What do you see in the Mariners this season before we check out? Yeah. Well, they're you know, they're my hometown team that I grew up watching. So I do pay little extra attention to them. You know, everybody seems to be projecting disaster. There's a chance they could be better than expected. If Kukuchi is good Mark Gonzalez kind of had a breakout season last year Domingo's Santana. I thought was a nice pickup. This guy was really good Jeb years ago for the brewers, you know, so he could be a nice fit in left field. I think they wanted the trait Edwin Encarnacion, they're kind of stuck with him. But what's wrong with that hit thirty two home runs last year? Bullpen huge question. Mark back rotation. King Felix huge question, Mark. But there's a chance they could surprise. Maybe they're just a five hundred team maybe a little better. So when they were in the process of trading and windy as in Robinson casino and James Paxton leading Nelson. Go a. Cruise. Go is a free agent. Of course, a lot in the narrative was this is a team that's tanking. I talked to a Mariners person you said we have too many good players to tank like we can't we can't go all in and win fifty games because we just have too many players who are affected. So in the eyes of this person that was ridiculous. This was just part of the rebuilding process that I think the Mariners put off three or four years you buy in that. Yeah, they needed prospects. But also, you know, the to bounce back candidates are Kyle Seager who played through a broken toe for most of the second half. And Gordon who also played through a toe injury to you know, both had not for them pretty bad years last year. So there are some bounceback capability from those two as well. They like Malik Smith is a leadoff hitter. L Mitch Haniger on the more underrated players in the game. Again, the pitching depth. I don't think is there to to necessarily get them into the playoffs but pitching sometimes can surprise it come out of nowhere. So. Yeah. This is not a team that's going to lose ninety five games or ninety games. I think they're better than that. Dave, thanks for doing this. You bet let me tell you about Pete who loved hockey and always wanted to play in the NHL Pete played since he was three and begged his mom to let him stay on the ice by some nights. He even slept in its hockey skates. Pete practiced and practiced unto one day when he was forty seven p three lines. He just wasn't that good. So he threw his skates in the trash. But then he heard how DIKO proud partner of the NHL good save money on car insurance. So he switched and saved a bunch. So it all worked out numbers game. Sarah Lang's is a producer a reporter for MLB dot com, and Sarah good to talk with you today. I've got two topics on the Mets I wanna run past. We'll start with the good. How great was Noah Syndergaard yesterday. Like he was tremendous. And I connected with Dave island the Mets pitching coach today about how good Syndergaard looks. And Dave absolutely Greece's me that it looks like Syndergaard is on a mission command of both sides of the plate, sir. But the most encouraging thing he sped up delivery. So it can be more competitive against the run again. Yeah. I mean, that's something that we've been hearing about him since he came up, and it's really good to see them working on it. And it's really positive to see you know, it's early in spring, but he was very disappointed with his year last year from everything that I read so it's good to see him coming back with that vengeance. And even though he had a good year. Most pitchers would consider that a good year that he wants to be so much better. And that he's working on those issues. I feel like there's gonna be a nice competitive dynamic between Syndergaard. And and Jacob degrom maybe a little bit like Randy Johnson. And Curt Schilling. What do you think? Yeah. Yeah. I think I think the hitter such different personalities at least in the way that they portrayed themselves, then, but you see that competitive drive, and I think that's really really exciting. It's gonna be a really fun thing to see. And I mean, I've been at games where you see them messing around before a game. You know, I saw them like throwing baseballs like they were football out to the outfield of the game two years ago that stuck with me, and you wanna see that, you know, some of these best duos trios, whatever they are pitchers that we've seen throughout the years the day Nimick that they have sort of off the field has been part of it too. So I think that's a real fun thing. Right. Let's play the numbers game. Number three. Number three is five seventy two. That's the winning percentage of the dodgers are projected to have by steamer projections. It's the best in the National League last year. They had a five sixty four one percentage. Remember, they almost. Didn't win the division. They're projected to allow three point eight seven runs per game. The fewest in the majors last year, they had an NL best three point three eight year or a second the major stolen Astros and allowed three point seven runs per game. The project is a score four point six runs per game. Which would be down from four point nine last year. But the question is can all of that finally yield a World Series title? They won six straight division titles. The third longest streak since divisions came into existence in nineteen sixty nine but each of the teams what they longer such streak one at least one World Series. Not span the brave the fourteenth straight and one world third side on the ankles with nine straight and three World Series. Number two. Number two is four point six. That's the angels projected runs allowed per game. Also by seamer, which is in the bottom half of the league. But last year they allow four point five runs per game. So it seems like they're about on par last year their pitchers they had a lot of injuries and issues. They had sixteen different pitchers. Make a start for them which was tied for second most franchise history and a season and tied for second. Most in the majors the only team with Moore was the raise who we know some unconventional pitching thing. Tyler Skaggs is probably going to be that number one starter either to six to erase through July twenty fifth last year. But then a fourteen ninety era in five starts the rest of the way limited by a left deductor sprain. So the big question as to whether he can take on that role. But one thing that I think is really interesting with the handles pitching is they've got Jonathan lucrative behind the plate. And you know, he hasn't been quite what he had been over the last two years. But he's there the team leader he said that he's trying to improve his catching metrics, it's pitch framing all of that. And they've got a lot of catch. Ching experience and Brad office and catching coach Jose Molina. So you wonder if that that'll affect the pitching in a positive way number one number one is thirty one point three that was Josh Donaldson war from twenty thirteen to sixteen the only position player with more. And that span with Mike trout, but then he played in just one hundred thirteen games and twenty seventeen and fifty two and twenty eighteen with calf injuries and a shoulder injury. So can he return to being that elite player in the very small sample of time? He played with the Indians last year. He looked much better. He played in sixteen games for them at a five twenty slugging percentage compared to four twenty three and thirty six games with the Jays before he got hurt in. May he did everything better with higher average higher on base and one other sign that maybe he was a bit healthier there or exit philosophy? So we didn't eighty nine point seven mile an hour exit philosophy with jase last year and ninety one point two with the Indians. So perhaps that health continues. I know he's. Is going to make it spring debut on Friday. We'll see what we get out of him. Right, sarah. And then I mentioned also bad news out of the Mets camp. Todd. Frazier has a strained left. Oblique? Here's Todd Frazier. Just a little while ago. Speaking with reporters, this is from Anthony Tacoma's Twitter feed. A new thing, man. I was I was hitting. I'm sitting ball. Great. And just at the end is fellow tightness in my left side. And. Classified as just a strain on my laptop Blake's of basically and Sarah run this past who is a long suffering Mets fan. The Mets say it doesn't appear to be severe. What do you think? Okay. I'm not hopeful, you know, early spring injuries are always this kind of move, sir. And maybe guys are getting back into the swing things. You never know. Exactly. What's wrong? But I think it's interesting. There have been two notable injuries and mess camp. And they both happened like Tuesday and Thursday. Right. So they know when the numbers MS. But you know, the Mets did work on their debts is often. And it's going to be interesting. It's definitely getting tested early. You know, right now, it doesn't matter. Anybody can play bass in spring training game. But it will be interesting this and the jed Lowrie injury continuing to the season to see if that does that they did work on kind of raising up more. What that really helps them stay competitive in the early going there without some of the key guys, sir. Thanks for doing this. Thanks so much for having me about their. Tweets. All right BUSTER. Here we go. Let's start with the CF school of sweat at school of sweat BUSTER at this point. Wouldn't it be wise for the Phillies? Settle with upgrades made for this season. Then refocus on air Nado next winter and possibly trout. Those two would definitely be better than the Harper Machado. Everybody thought they'd be getting. Yeah. It's an interesting concept. But I'd say this. I if you're in the Phillies physician you're trying to win in two thousand nineteen you're not going to sit and wonder about my trout in two thousand twenty like eat you need in the fall of two thousand twenty for that matter you try to make the team better for this year. They wanna get Bryce Harper right now. Which is why I do think they gotta push into resolution you like my day of deadline on their offer an expiration date. I'm not sure I like it. Because let's say you say the offers twenty four hours from now. And then comes and goes, they'd still take him. Right. So I think it's I think Boris and Harper would know it's a fake deadline, and your point is absolutely fair. And I had some agents say to me yesterday if you said a deadline you better follow through. It's like being a parent, right? I mean, if you tell your kids if you don't get this done, this is what the punishment is you have to follow through. All right up next from your local blockbuster at Elvin yacht. Katori simple question are kluber in Bauer still on the trade bloc. If so where are they likely to be dealt as a cubs fan? I wouldn't mind seeing either of them pitching on the north side. Yeah, it's interesting. There hasn't been a lot of talk about these two. And a perception of folks with other team is the Indians would be much more willing to trade Trevor Bauer he's going year to year. He's wondering arbitration against them a couple of seasons in a row. I would not at all the shocked to see Trevor Bauer moved during the two thousand nine hundred and season. And that's not to say the the needs would give up on the year. But they might feel like during the course of the regular season when they see a contender looked upgrade its rotation. Maybe they could trae Bauer from this tremendously deep rotation and add some prospects moving forward. Okay. From Mark Hammett at Mark in Memphis, any chance at trade could make trout a brave. Lots of pitching prospects in the organization, Mark no chance. Like, I think trout either takes whatever the angels offer. Or he goes to the Phillies or the Yankees. I can't imagine in two thousand twenty one. He's going to be an any uniform other than one of those three. What do you think the Braves fans can dream? I just I'd love to be in a Blue Jays uniform of that's not gonna happen. Okay. For a marina at Rena banana BUSTER if you pulled together every team projected to win less than eighty games. This includes the Padres my Blue Jays and pirates among many into one giant super tank. Who'd you take in a series against your twenty nineteen pick to win the World Series. Yeah. My twenty nine hundred picked to win the World Series the Houston Astros. And so I thought about that. Because that would include guys like Manny Machado, Jameson, Tyrone and Starling morte and Joey Gallo. You know what I take the all star team. I'd take the volume, but I I really believe in the Astros to win the World Series this year. I noticed you didn't mention Vlad Guerrero junior. We'll just okay. Well, you know, he's not a big leaguer yet. He he needs a little bit more seasoning in the minor leagues. The defense third base that easy hot corner. All right from Noah locale at licks BUSTER. I'm careful bringing this up. But how far away are my Mariners from contention? I feel like DiPoto is doing some great things all caps now. Please don't curse my team. I hope you don't curse teams BUSTER. I did curse. The Mariners for years because what happened was that? I would constantly pick them to make the playoffs. I think one year I had going to the World Series. And of course, because I chose them to do that. They were cursed. Right. Wow. Our friend greenie. Yeah. Exactly. The podcast has the BUSTER occurs. Rather than the greenie curse? David. I talked about the Mariners and how we feel like they're making progress, but they're not close to a playoff team. Okay. From Scotty Poznansky at pas NAN seven so far what has been the most under the radar transaction made this off season in my opinion. Charlie Morton to the raise will add depth to a fairly weak rotation. It's still one now. Ninety games last year. Morton's postseason experience could prove lethal as well. Scotty, I would second your notion. We'll tell you that among teams that looked at Charlie Morton, they do have concerns about the medicals and everybody in baseball loves him. They got tremendous respect for him. And the question is Willie. Stay on the mound. We'll stay healthy. And finally from Reggie deal at baseball nerd, oh seven BUSTER. I was not alive then, but what is happening to Kershaw feels very sandy Colfax like to me instead of short term with Harper. Should they instead go short term with clinical? Reggie I completely agree with you about the comparison with Kershaw and Colfax. In fact, I wrote that a couple years ago, just knowing how Clayton has very high standard for himself the way that sandy Colfax. Did if you told me that in two years, for example, we woke up one day, and there's a press conference in kershaw's calling. It a career wouldn't surprise me. Now, he did start to make adjustments with his stuff. He does have three years left on this. Extension. They had. So he could wind up pitch in a while. But in terms of right now, I think they're fine. Look the nationally west is not a great division in terms of its depth of contenders. That we talked about the depth of the dodgers rotation. I it'd be Bill. They'll be okay, especially because Walker. Bueller? Looks like he's going to merge. One of the best pitchers in baseball this year. And don't forget to keep those Bleacher tweets coming in use the hashtag Bleacher tweets, Dan. Thanks for checking in filling in today. Thank you muster. It's been great. Yeah. And you'll be with us the rest of the week. Correct. Not friday. I'm off to a sports analytics conference in Boston. Nice. Yep. I'm glad you're here is I say, it's nice having a professional on the show. My thanks to Mark Teixeira to Sarah, laying Dave Schoenfield. Thanks for listening. Everybody and have a great day. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight podcast if you're playing fantasy baseball don't forget to listen to the fantasy focus podcast checkout all podcasts at ESPN dot com slash pot. Separate baseball tonight. The podcast.

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Major League pitcher (and huge Jokers fan) Derek Holland

The Official Impractical Jokers Podcast

42:15 min | 2 years ago

Major League pitcher (and huge Jokers fan) Derek Holland

"Folks baseball season just started. So we thought we'd do something fun. And we've got Derek Holland of the San Francisco Giants is actually a huge fan of impractical jokers, and we are coming to you live from the impractical jokers crews. This is his second time on the cruise. And he's been nice enough to talk to us without further ado, Derek Collins. Yeah. We're also joined by another man who's on the road constantly. Okay. Sorry, I'm getting on the boat right now in the dining area and people are heckling me. We're also joined Jeff Johnson Jeff Johnson who's the toy tour manager for the jokers. But this is great because all Jeff your huge baseball fan. I'm a huge fan. Yes. Huge Derek Holland fan. That's all I care about recently. Derek has been having catch with your son. Is this correct on the boat? Yeah. He'd lie in started last year on the cruise and Derek lake catch with my son and gave him some pointers. And so we schedule the we all brought our baseball gloves and my daughter played catch with them as well. And she's pitches. Underhand fast pitch. Wow. So she was given Derek lessons on how to pitch. Give me some lessons that I had nothing to know about it was it was unreal. What a melting of world. Like that is so fun. I mean, like the fact that it's all here for the impractical jokers is like so funny to have all this dog is happening. Derek? Why are you on the cruise you your jokers fan, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I've been watching the show for a while. I was telling you goes earlier, basically, I leave it on. It's it's always on just just watch every episode just scroll through but bene- fan of it. I love the way that they can go out and do what they do in front of people and just keep a straight face for the most part. Sometimes Sal can't do that. But yeah, you know, what they do is unbelievable. It's very creative. One of my favorite ones is the the where they numbed his mouth up and he had to food raise. I actually want to try to do that myself. Yeah. The novacaine one is something that like it's so special. It's like it's exactly what the show is. But it's also so funny. Yeah. Oh, it's like the punishment. But I'm laughing, and I'm also feeling bad for murder. It's like a perfect mix a little behind the scenes for you. We've probably talked about this on the pilot or maybe at least in the room. But like that came about Murray does this sometimes it's really funny. He'll come back man last night. I went to the dentist. I couldn't talk at all. I had this novacaine maybe that could be a punishment like walks out. So maybe, but we should also about the show you guys high in with every age group is not just made for like adults. It's everybody like everybody can sit there and watch it with their family and have a good time baseball to. Yes, you guys are doing a good job. Keep a little boring though at times, you've gotta be there. Enjoy that's how he extended that day extended the netting there. So you can be true because on your phone. Because on your game and go with worlds right there. I got baseball and jokers everyone calls jokers, America's pastime. And I think that's really great. That's nice. Yeah. It is it just start to hurt. Also that you are sort of a prankster. Oh, yeah. I mean, I I try to have a lot of fun. Let us in on some of the things maybe that you've done with other teammates or anything. I don't really know top of my head. I mean, I know of stuff that's happened to me. That's hard. Oh, yeah. It's happened a lot. So they have a rule if you have any holes in your jeans, they're going to get cut up. Well, I had one it was like literally right below my crotch. So you couldn't see it. This is fine. There was gonna notice it Adrian Belcher. And when the players he played with me decide he was going to cut him up. Well, I work cowboy boots that day to the field so head my my shorts and their head like a nice, whatever top cut all my close up. I looked like I was about to be a male stripper. But there's I mean, you get to see things like that. There's another one like put an ice or not icy hot. It's red hot which basically heats up anytime soon as you start sweating. It. Really activates. It gets it hot. We put it on the bottom of people socks. So when you put it on your feet you start sweating feeder on fire. Now, you want to do drills barefoot rather than doing what you should be going. Wow. That's a whole thing. What what's the purpose of red hot a lot of guys do it? So that they can get loose quick. I guess I don't I don't use it. I'm still young. So I don't need that stuff. Yes. More for the older guys. Yes. Interesting. Have you ever touched a Adrian bell trays head? Yes, awhile been punched like for you. So for you, don't you don't ever touch. This guy's head. Like, there's I don't know. Why I don't know. How it started? Whatever it was. Search agents lots of Adrian bell trae head touch. Hopefully, it doesn't yield that weird city. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually a good point. But yeah, if you touch his head more than likely, I would say about one hundred percent of the time you're gonna get blasted. He's gonna punch you back. So don't touch you said, how did you find about the find out about the cruise, and like why did it appeal to you? Man. How did I find out? I think it was. No you guys advertise. It was on the on the TV. So we me and my buddy, which I don't know where they went now. But we decided we were going to get on it. We want to get on that cruise. And then that's how we got to meet Jeff kind of took off from there. Yeah. Jeff, and you you I mean you open for the guys occasionally like you'll go up, and like do some jokes and stuff like that. But you also tore manage what key tell us a little bit more about what that entails. Well jokes is a strong word. I tell people not to videotape the show opening act. So I don't really do any material. Do you don't you have that one? You have to do. I I mean, I used them. See I mean, I probably am seed a couple thousand shows with a club. I owned in Iowa, right? I've been on sage at ton. But I, you know, I don't want to go out there. They're not there to see me. I don't use. You do anything. I mean, I'll say something that I think's funny occasionally. But yeah, tour managing is kind of interesting. I would literally never do it with anybody else. If people always said, oh, it must be fun. And all that. But I would not do anybody other than these guys. Because when we started out I was like the agent the manager of the promoter tour manager for the first year because I reach out to them. And then we went out to island did these shows. So I was put my own money up to do the shows taking all the risks advertising doing everything. And then, you know, the agent manager NASCAR feB tour manager, and I literally was like I don't really want to. But because I want to make sure they got taken care of and people treat them, right? And all that. And that's what you know. That's that was in two thousand thirteen. Yeah. And so, but you know, I do all the sound stuff advanced the show catering hotels ground hospitality. Make sure that you know, there's the right place right time and seems like a lot of work. But it's like, it's an you. Enjoy the ride. Yeah. You know, it's it's cool. When you saw them in a two hundred seat club for their first show. And then you see him. The two in London or Madison Square Garden or Radio City Music hall. You know, it's surreal, you know, and seeing, you know, their their lives have changed, but there's still same for for guys from the year. They start. Yeah. That's in Carlisle Steve taken these guys nurture them under your wing that must mean, they always shoot you with the utmost amount of respect, and they never played any pranks on you or Mesfin you at all on the none of that's true. No. Well, I mean. Yeah, they do. They've really good to me. And all that. But they do pull pranks and do. Yes. In fact, somebody called me last night two in the morning and Murray thinks Casey was behind it. That's what he said. He said that has to be Casey Joe's thing, but somebody literally called me my phone because my sweet number is like ten thousand. So it's gotta be close to some other number and somebody pick up the phone and said, we have a huge stain on our comforter. Can you come out and change it out? That's that was a phone call. I got to in the morning. I was like mutt. And they've got all I'm sorry. We must have the wrong number in defensive Casey. He comes up with much more brilliant prank. Call thank you. Assumes like mur- did this book tour, and he had like he had fans like kind of call in and just kind of talked to him about his book it was one of the promotional things. And he said that several times he thought it was the the impractical jokers producers like me and James about and we none of us have time to do that. We don't we or do re care, and he's always like, I know you guys are behind it. You guys are calling and pranking getting another people's voices. And I'm like, no, those are real people that you're probably being dismissive. Do you guys ever take like because I know when the Tampa show you introduce them. And then I've seen you before you introduce him because ever like mess around with that. Do you guys throw it like we out while we try like they're like strippers? I give it up for the impractical jokers through drink drinks. Like that. I think you need to start opening. No, I thought you meant like do we ever mess with them like in that world? And we wanted to do a punishment where we before the show tell the audience, no matter what don't laugh at Joe gadoe, and it's going to be as punishment. And we're going to reveal it later any joke. He says button up and it's going to be hard. But like don't laugh at other people who have punch lines and things laugh and for Joe's. Don't and Sal ruined it. Yeah. They were like backstage talking, and Sal, I guess didn't realize he was in the room. And he said like doing the, you know, the crew's coming down the film there and enjoy put it together. He just goes the crew's coming down. So that means you're gonna feel more punishment there. What are you going to have people? Not laugh at me. Like, he is like he is a genius you. We see the gears. You were there. Right. Yeah. No. I was in the room. And I tried to then cover it up. You really we all panicked. And I was just like Joe I try to get an answer from about something else. I was like for to mirror like McCarthy. Shut up. I know what you're doing. Listen. Sounds just through the punishment which he was like what is he going to do at that theater? Because now I want to do it to one of the other guys, and they already knew about it. And we're like we can't and Sal just had this look on his face. And he was like, I blew it. We'll never do that punishment now. But it happens. I I don't know there's so many punishments that there's since we just filmed recently that really we sat on for like three or four seasons. I couldn't happen because any amount of reasons like we didn't have the budget for it or the network rejected. And now they finally approved it so yeah, it it's weird. Maybe it could work again. If Joe ever forgets about it. But he probably won't because he's got a robot mind. Here's something go I'm curious about. So we're on the cruise. Do you guys do to do any of the activities on here? Now, like, maybe a punishment any of that stuff? Because I know it's there is a lot of super fans and stuff here. So it's more for them to get anything. We don't have that audience of like of strangers that don't know, you know. And that's when the punishments in the challenges worked the best we've done some cruise specials and we've filmed things for. You know, it would almost be like a framing device to show deleted scenes or clips and that that's great. The let the fans in on that and be a part of it. But otherwise, it's kind of tough to to to do any challenge. Because if they knew us. A punishment. We've done punishments where the audience was somewhat in on it that you know, that like it didn't matter as much as more punishing, you know, thing or like, you know, the title a tight rope date rope walked stuff like that. The mine. Yeah. Peer the mind. Like that was that was in front of an audience. And so the one thing that would be perfect is that the guy none of the guys are expecting a punishment right now. We're on the cruise. They feel totally safe at home. And that's kind of great like we could get them. The big thing for us right now as we don't have our TV crew, we did talk about right before he left like if we got like our iphones out and just filmed on our phones, we're had a phone call Stankiewicz. Like, can we film something? And he was like, well if it was funny enough, but he's like that. What about the audio and everything I was like, you're right. Let's see later. See, I don't even know what the ideas. This is the thing James. So inner circle he knows ideas that we can talk about because he showed might do it. Right. I know I know. And I I know that and I like that suspense. I even liked that I might off off the record here at the idea's good as baseball fans. What did you guys think of the three or four baseball punishments? We've had on the show a really loved the one that you guys did with the Mets with Syndergaard. Sports fans are known for the calm demeanor. You're going to be fine. You're going to die. Yeah. That to me. I think it was pretty neat though. The break dancing was another one. Right. And then there was the proposal. Now. Yes. And actually the the singing the butterfly crime scene in season one. That was. Luke claws sexy. Butterfly. Since I was a child. What about the man thing that was another one too? So the one I came up with. Was solid. Boy. As you can see like in the shape of baseball. But it's salad with tomato is and it looks like a it's a very healthy. It was kind of like hang us. It's twenty fourteen. Hey, let's eat healthier. Turn a new leaf so to speak in reinvests baseball into a healthy sport salad. Boy. Great mascot. We're going to challenge us to. Yeah. Then we. Events. Right. We've security was that God that was. Drugs in and you took us would you like to check? Yeah. We're get to us clause. Right. We had the one at major league baseball studios. Good. He's in the shotgun. He's in the shot. Oh, yeah. That's right. That's a good point. I think Carl Sanyo Mark the Rosa doing the push ups Martinez signing autographs that was yeah. We just all that went on there too. That you still that's a lot. We gotta get you in been trying told south. Let's do it to New York. I want to get in there. But every time we've been there. I think you guys have been on the road that makes it tough. That's the only thing have you ever thought of what a good punishment would be like to for your teammates, man. There's. I mean, I would like to do stuff to some of those guys like they do. But at the same time, some of them don't have that kind of personality, for instance, you know, Madison Bumgarner is not gonna wanna do stuff like this. He's country. Boy, don't him. Yeah. You don't you don't deal with him. That's makes me want to deal with them. Even more. It's intimidating somebody. That would so I'm gonna Andrew mccutchen. That was one of my teammates. If if you don't know who he is whatever he plays with the Phillies. Now guy likes the show. He is the most like one of the most funniest dudes I've ever played ball with. And he would do anything like I hung out the mall time. And it was just like I n traduced in basically to the show. I think he kind of knew, but we washed it it's like I said, it's always on. I checked the hotel to either you guys are comedy central. That's it. That's great. But he's another guy that I think would be entertaining to have on the show. Like, if you're doing baseball players, the stakes are so high with like, you know, like before baseball games like you wanted to hear someone you don't wanna like, even like do something that you think is harmless, and then like messing something up may have did it though. It was perfect autograph. That's that's great. Yes. Stuff. Like that. The only thing, you know. It'd be kinda funny is so I love hockey you guys did the when they were goal. Be goalies hundred mile prowess shots faces this time take neither live EP off of like let me pitch till? Yep. And I'll throw full go or have them catch. My bullpen. So now you happen to catch that we pitch that. That was one of the things we wanted to do because we would have fun with that. Like, I know I gotta get my work in. But at the same time, I can take a little bit off and have some fun and then come back and do my real bullpen. That would be something to be interesting because I don't know if I know sow Q. Yeah, they like baseball. But I don't know if they could catch like if it came down to a curve ball on a slider. All no way. That's what they cannot. I've seen entertaining. Yeah. Well, yeah. The dodgeball was really funny to that's so funny. I've never seen any of them play a sport. I guess there's the punishment where they were shooting, baskets and q. I think miss most and south hit a bunch surprisingly. But I've never seen Joe gadoe shoot. A basketball are hit a baseball kick a soccer ball. We had them. We went to performed at Penn State at Pittsburgh, wherever Penn State is. It's in pen. Yeah. And so afterwards. I have no idea. Well, I know it's in Pennsylvania, but I gave him. I I can't remember the arena. But when we left we started going out to the the bus, and they went, oh, there's a gym here and there's basketball. So we went in there and literally play basketball we're supposed to leave the bus was ready to leave. And they went in we shot baskets for like, thirty minutes and Murray was like could make shots really form. But he made he could make shots here's ground like grandma style. It's so we went out there. We're like street shoes. And they let us play basketball for like a half an hour was really fond merged just like that European dad. He is. Yeah. He's apparently the best athlete of the group. And he says he was going to baseball in high school. I believe that. I honestly, he's the most physically fit they all played in a charity softball game in Brooklyn a couple of years ago. And I think Hugh made some agree GIS error and was yelled at by former jets and Bengals quarterback Boomer Esiason allow. Yeah, I'd like to see the tape. I wish I had more details on it. But from what I know boomer size and does not like Brian claims. That's that's inside. Joe back. They'd like to say, and we'll see if that ever ends up playing out anywhere. They were they did it on the show early on Andro POS cringes or Santiago. But they were doing it on stage for a while. And then they quit doing it. I think it was crashes. They talked about it was a story that they said Q took the ball. And instead of throwing somebody out at home play took it and threw it out in centerfield. Some reason or through the stands out run. Yeah. It was like, oh, I remember this ice and got limit at him. He's like that is so competitive and cues like, I don't care a charity event. Like, I get it you want to win. But it's a charity that you gotta go and just enjoy have fun. Yeah. New remember though, like rock and jock. Baseball basketball. Be fun. I mean, they should be a modern. We should get the jokers in on that you should be on that guard. It'd be great. That would definitely do. I know Syndergaard lives in Dallas too. So even better right there. That's where you're from originally. Yeah. What part of Ohio Columbus? Oh, cool. That's what I have some family out there. Sorry to hear that. Glad to be out of Ohio and then more cold weather. Yeah. Kind of enjoy it down in Dallas live that way. That's but you must be on the road constantly. I live out of a suitcase kind of like you guys do. Well, no, you guys, you're back home. Pretty we're in the office most of the time, unless you know, once in a while, I we we might film in Hawaii or something or film in those were good. But I mean, the guys and Jeff are on the road constantly like every weekend touring the country and stuff. So they're they're the case. So, you know, you're the case people. I'm Biagio Messina. And I'm joke VIN soon. We are the producers behind the H L N television documentary series unmasking killer. Join us as we explore the identification capture and arrest of Joseph James, Di Angelo the alleged Golden State killer in a special ten part podcast series unmasking killer, all new episodes premiering Tuesday. February twelfth subscribe today at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. I can't believe what the guys go through. I mean same that you have to go through. It's just it drains you being on the road, and the fact that they get up on stage and do their show like so many nights. Well, even on top of that like I was saying earlier, I love the way these guys interact with the fans, they're not they're not above them. They're not, you know, anything crazy like they interact. They have fun with Joe is. I see Joe all the time in the casino. Yeah. Legit right there with the fans he's getting them to win. He's like kissing them. Like the babies like he's got a kiss the baby and stuff. But it's it's that's what I like is how everybody interacts like there's no as I would call it. No asshole. Everybody respects everybody. They have fun with it. That's how it's supposed to be Mary's out there like doing shots with people taking selfies with people. Yeah. He's he's on top seed. That's, but that's cool. That's what makes not only the show itself unique. But the people that are in it like everybody, like, it's not just them to like Shays awesome. She's the men we've talked to several times you guys I've talked to several times all you guys interact. It's not. The the guys it's everybody if families cool, I I've been saying this a lot like the the boat is this. It's this melting pot of all these different areas of jokers because you've got the people you got the the people who opened up for the guys on tour and manage the tour, Jeff you got people from production like us, you got you got just musicians that their friends with comedians their friends with and it's just so fun to see all those worlds come together. Tell them Steve Dave like last night. There was a show. Space monkeys were you there? No. We were drinking sorry. This is this is gonna sound annoying. But like it was maybe the show to beat of three three cruises. It was it was that was that thing was like Brian Johnson from tell them, Steve Dave podcast with Q. And they started and Sal comes out to comedians. Come out. Moore comes out Joe comes out. It's like the full squad. And like plus, and it was a riot. An absolutely right. It was crazy circle back. I just remember the other two for the Noah Syndergaard punishment. Yeah. We had two other pitches for the Mets that we liked and they went we went with Syndergaard punishment. But Derek I'm curious to think or to hear your input on who you would like to prank in these scenarios on your team. One of the punishments would have been when you guys all go out for BP or the pitchers go out to to do your work. We wanted to have one of the jokers go and change into one of the players real street clothes and be waiting for him when they come back. So like, whatever they wear for the day, like their their changed their watching is everything. And also like baseball players are much bigger than the jokers usually guys. Like the biggest is like five ten. Yeah. Something baseball players a lot like six four six three. Just for that right there. No Pablo Sandoval. Has all the change everything. So to see if you had Joe come out with all that. I mean, it would just everybody we lose it like it'd be so funny to see because it's. A lot in baseball player loves the chain. Yes. As they always say, they like to pop the chain to see Joe come out with his gold chains diamond everything I think that would be funny because you don't see Joe wearing that kind of stuff at all. Yeah. So I think that's my that would definitely be my pay. Glad that Joe doesn't listen to this podcast. And so we still pitch this idea. I think we bring it back. Oh, he's in on it after the last night about some punishments. You can know about it. But you still have to do it. It doesn't make it easier or worse like it's a real surprise. But sometimes it's like, all right? I know, but I guess I'm gonna have to pee my pants and an escape the room today. No, I didn't know you guys did it. So I thought that like let's say, hey, this this week. We're going to do all these task. And then whoever loses that week that's the punishment that we can do that later. I found out you guys are doing all different times. And you just kind of put them together because the schedule so chaotic and like they're on tour sometimes we need to Bank punishments, and we need to Bank challenges, and then we sort of put it together. And it's all honest, like, we're, you know, the people who are losing are losing rush. Maybe she'll sh shooting the the punishments out of order. Yeah. That's yeah. That's how it breaks. It's really we don't have to worry about it to the end of the season. And it's kind we a lot of people in comedy slackers. And you kind of just push it off to the end. And so then like the last like four punishments a bit, okay? This is kind of the episode math now who can do this punishment who can do that. And then those last four I think that's why like the end of last year like the last like three or four episodes, Sal loses. And that's because he like lost those challenges. So it's like, okay. But you gotta do you. Gotta do the their finale and all this other stuff. If we can we try to switch it up from week to week. But you know, sometimes I haven't been salads is a lot. So right. Yeah. It's been loosened quarter bit. It's it's a mix of like you. He loses a lot. But also the guys love to watch him loose. Like, they really that's that's kind of a big thing. I was going to say, you know, who else is a huge fan of the show the great for this would Chris sale. He's like six six one eighty wow. His close all the buttons are going to be snapped. He's like skinny jeans insight. Sorry funny. So he would be a good one to do is neutron show. I didn't know that. Well, yeah. Because I texted him, and he told them that I told him that we were playing catch the crew or something like that. And he goes I love Derek column. Yeah. We we've talked several times. I just missed him when I played with the White Sox. He had just got traded to two Boston Red Sox or Red Sox. All right. Yeah. So I missed out on that. But I mean, everybody's every time we go to the city. We're always seeing each other. We're always talking. So that's cool. So like when they just. A little bit into the our like when you guys are travelling is kind of like the pitchers are like a click, and it's like I'll go and like, no everybody. I mean you. Yeah. It's basically like you you've hang out with everybody. It's kind of like you were saying earlier, we're a family just like being on this cruise. Everybody's like a family. We're all together. Right. Same thing. In baseball. We go somewhere. Hey, I'm in. We're going to be in town. You guys wanna grab some dinner, boom. Get some dinner. All right. Let's go have drinks, whatever. So it's it's definitely. Yeah. We hate each other on the field coming on it's normal but outside of that now, we're all buddies. So the other punishment idea that we had was. Hey jokers fan. Sorry. But we actually had to cut this part of the interview out because we still might do this punishment down the road. So now, we'll return to the impractical jokers podcast special guest. Derek collins. So how do you guys go about that to actually thinking about like, how do you don't want them to know? For instance, the wind, and I just saw that was on. There was the Dover sucks. The big painter. Yes. I put a huge turn on damn right? I did how do you go about that? Like, not letting them know. I can't remember did the mayor mayor knew about it. Okay. So he sold it. Really? Well, yes. Yes. He did a good job. We we didn't necessarily say like sell it that way. But he felt like that was the right choice, and it really only played off. Really? Well, yeah. But I mean like what I'm saying is so obviously the mayor. Well, let's go back to the baseball used to be. So here you are. He's going to go through our stuff. Do we even know? So like if that's what that what kind of mix to the giants food. Hey, Derek, we something like the giants. Can you help us out you'd be like the BT 's probably helping out with the guys end up punishment? Ooh, cool cruise ship announcement. If you just heard. Thicke into the cruise you keep you and don't worry about the answering of somewhere on the low that just wanted to call a couple of this radio. He's wanting to shout out. I guess. Thank you guys. Go the cruise a few announcements. Starting at seven pm. That's twenty five minutes in the stardust deck six and seven forward. Funny showing clutch the Elvis tribute artist that starts at seven. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be dancing on redoing some strong for my raspy horrible. Really good. It really is going to be amazing. I've promised to wear short shorts. So you're going to see that at some point. I'm very excited that starts very shortly after that will be going to the casino. Do you guys ever get people that catch like, I know I've seen it actually a few times when you do the inside stuff. You can see him fans like taking pictures does that ever kind of screw it up or the same thing with having cameras around. If it does screwed up, you know, there's there's usually other people that don't know the show at all. And like we just cut that once in a while and might ruin it like we might have to lose like a couple of frames of a shot because someone came in. But if we could cut to another camera, we can kind of edit it out to the cameras because like for instance, let's say one that you guys did was the fishing with. In the mall people's bags and stuff. But the cameras where you guys set up. That's where I'm curious is like how do people not like, hey, why what are they recording? Like, how do they not catch that? That's a great question. It's a lot of times. Like, we have like really funny an interesting setups in the mall and in the park where you'll have a baby carriage that actually has a camera in it. Oh, it's like an under like a blanket and stuff like that will real up like somebody. It'll be saying there or they'll have a PA go out with one of our cameramen, and they'll be in street clothes, and like they'll just look like they're having a conversation. We're really they have their cameras like held that like hip level, and they're filming and they're looking down it. But it just looks like, you know, for the most part like to you'd have to really be focusing on them to not know that people that see from when you see it on the TV it looks like, okay. How do you not see that like see the care? But then now that you mentioned the whole part with somebody standing there. I do see that not make sense to it. Because it does look like they're just doing like an interview shopping in the mall. Right. Yeah. Looks like it could be like they might be like trying to take a picture of like their friend or something like that as opposed to. Also, I mean, like the cameras are small very big. And also we've gotten like over time we've gotten more and more robotic cameras, and those are the ones that like look like security cameras, but then behind the scenes someone has like basically like a joystick like video game zooming in on people. And like, you know, what I mean that kind of thing and that the fact that we are technology has improved in. We've had more of that we could get really clean shots of the in fact, we've had conversations that are like we don't want it to look to clean because it feels almost feels more fake like the more produced. It is. So we'll say like you dirty that shot up a little bit. And that might mean like we put the might be like we get a shot that like his slightly skewed because it feels more intimate, and it feels more like your fly on the wall. It's really fascinating. This see I didn't know that something you've got enough. Yeah. The case is we gotta find who wrote this. No, we do that. We find the killer. This science defined out. 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But obviously, it's the point of the joke and stuff, but I would say that the take one of those two for sure there's some other ones. Okay with skydiving. I actually want to do it. So. It's funny how certain punishments are like rewards or like a vacation thing Serbia. But like some people are like goals to jump out of a plane or two pet cats, and then sometimes punishable I remember now the the Cal Cal. I can't do. I don't I I don't know. How did it? First of all, I would be shaking my whole body just trying to get there. I know that they had ended up getting health afterwards. But that's one that really stands out to me. Wouldn't that be terrible? If you're armed got ruined for baseball and selling it in a cow. He had armed condom on. So he was okay. Told him that they did the other guys. I'm serious. I'm not getting poked holes in that. So when they wanna do like there was colleges because he'd double bag that and they sell like hotels in it. Do. Two. The thing that doesn't come across on TV is how bad that place smells. It was could imagine. Could imagine a lot of annuity. I was I I didn't get that was before I was doing like a behind the scenes, so I was really glad that I didn't have to do an insider for that one that I had to I went up with a packet of material to pitch like next week stuff like what we're doing. And it's just like we're out in this barn that reeks. None of the guys can pay attention. All right. This this next bit is. Yeah. It's really nobody wants to work. Derek is such a big fan of impractical jokers that he watches with his dog. Is that correct? Well, I got to now. But yeah Wrigley, and Bruce French bulldog and a boxer. So they both like the show. We're just Wrigley. But to be honest. I can't tell. Trying to get them just stare at the TV going back though. I just thought of this is something that I think it would be fun to do. Like I've wanted to do it just because was what q did with the wheelchair the motorized car. I'm a Skaggs sandwich. Now granted I I'd have to get somebody to do the whole controls and all that stuff too. But I think that was a lot of these punishments. Look more, entertaining and fun like I think it's fun. That's something. I would do. But again like you were saying to like, it's a vacation. Even if I did do the skydiving one that I wanna do I'm gonna probably react the same way murdered like tone. They get up there. The heights and stuff that that's gonna kick in. I guess well actually start laughing by that. Now, you see much more macho and tough than Trump. To that point. It's different. Like, the other thing is like you guys ever. Ever do any of their fears. I know obviously, we did the spider cats all that stuff. We've done a lot of is like sharks, and you heights to his full their fears like things you hate where it's like just being scared in general like the corn maize and like the haunted house and stuff like that. Yeah. The little girl stuff that gets me the cracks me up when he did the goggles and then took it off. Then there's the two girls. Both of you are children, and I'm not afraid junior warning. Easy to punish you. So particular. Nothing joseph. I'm always entertainers. I find out Joe's the loser. It's like all right. I got to see what they did. Because this guy doesn't like never nothing bothers him and often the guys are like, yeah. I kind of just want to force Joe to make us laugh for a while as like some cheap entertainment and like put them in a in a situation. That's like so outlandish that it's a win win for everyone. Even though it's supposed to be a punishment. But it is still the most of the time it has a punishing element to it. But yeah, yeah. And that's the thing you're saying it's like sometimes like you wanna do it? Or like, you kind of want to do like, the bingo thing I go. I wonder what that would be like, that's like a thing. Where like I don't think south knew about that one before. But it might sometimes if punishment. So they know what they are like we said before like comedic Li it's like, I know that is funny. But then when you have to do it in the room repeatedly, it is so difficult so often onset, and like, I know all of what we planned out beforehand, and I know the punch I'll take my ear buds out. So I can't listen anymore, and I'll turn away from the camera because I'm like, this is unbearable to watch the Syndergaard. Punishment way for me. Upset. For everybody at the end of the day. I think they hooked him up with tickets and sweet tea stuff like that. But I was like, you know, anytime there's kids involved that's really hard to watch Schmitz. Yeah. Yeah. Just breaking their hearts. Yeah. Yeah. Joe Joe is really affected by the one with like a woman who like he took the ball and that one like afterward. He was not. Well, like, I we couldn't even film him because he was so distraught. He was like just turn off the cameras. Inside. He's like I need a second. I feel terrible. I just did that to another parent. Yeah. But once it was done. He did like they know what's going on afterwards. Right. So I mean, it's yeah. I mean, sure like him as a father being there with his daughter or son and someone doing that. And like how he put himself in her shoes. And. Yeah. He. Yeah. Sometimes you just push someone so like into like the red and they're like a mad. I understand. It was a joke. I'll be I'll be cooling a little bit. Like, I just need a second to calm down you then you're kinda like, oh, I wish you were happier right now. Then I think the Mets did end up making them happier and like production. Yeah. Did the? One of the episodes. You guys read at grocery store, Sal or not cell. Sorry. Merwin sliding down the rails and telling them about specials that were going on whatever. And then here's this tall. Gentlemen. Really past. Like, I thought he was going to kill him. We did too. Do you have like incense like that happening or did that was one of the closest calls, right? That guy. Top dog with the newspaper, and he was very much like. He did want to kill Mary like our producers had to step in between TV show TV show. It really doesn't happen that often Q tackled by a baseball coach. He was right. Yeah. That's when he was bushman, I'm the live tour video that they shop for the live tour where he is just as a Bush and he had to take a ball from someone at a baseball game. And and a coach did the right thing. I think came out and tackled him. It's like why are you doing this at a little league game? And that was like the two you're making me think of all these bad punishment that wouldn't the little girl was out on the field. And he had to like. Yeah. Just tell her how terrible. She was. Love you. Don't you? Oh god. Don't make me say that. Yeah. That was tough to me. Like, how do you do that? And then the coaches were starting to get involved. Top five is a great place to punish. It is really the stakes are are there for their taking some feelings get involved there. Yeah. I mean. Yeah. That's you're right. Like, I didn't even realize how many times we've done things related to baseball like from little league to major league, it's credible. And that's the thing too. 'cause like everyone like almost everyone's played baseball T-ball. There's something going up, and you have that just no right to the majority of us weren't good at it. And so you you feel for that little girl, and she was the best actor, obviously. And she was like all about it. But yet the parents got really upset they didn't want him to leave with her at a certain point. 'cause he was like being so returned. Then again once we make the announcement. I first of all sometimes people when you make the announcement those impractical jokers I didn't even realize I was him because he's sitting behind me. I didn't even turn around. They're like something like that. Or I was behind him get to see his face, and then they're laughing. And then it's like the. Yeah. The same thing with the the volunteering one the donation a a good one. Did you see that one? Yeah. Zest to get like make like a he's like eating all the food like a donation center. That's like they're going to be donating that food. We can't be eating the food shot. It was dinged. I don't see a thing, sir. It's a really fun one. Because as soon as it ends. Everyone's like, oh, great. Like, I'm so glad that this person wasn't real person was forced to do. It would have the money one when he had to click all the that one too. Yeah. That one got a little heated. David the money back. That's what I was saying. Like, I feel like there's so many times that you guys do this stuff, and you get the push the envelope. And I love it. But it gets a little scary like I feel bags. It's like these guys are just trying to have fun. So far, we've definitely pitched them punishments that they've turned down because it's like it matching that version, but like maybe dialed up a little bit, and they go that's too much, and they they do have a filter, and they they won't let it get too insane. And like if they feel like the reaction's going to be really upset and like that will stick with the person for a while, they won't do it. Yeah. And she's like how bad is we messed with a person, and like how much better can we make their experienced by the end of it? So for example, going back to Syndergaard that punishment. It's like, okay people had tickets to a Mets game if they had a really bad time the Mets going to give them a sweet, and like a meet and greet with like other players. I go toward the locker room and all that. So that ends up being like at the end, we think better experience, then it's like, okay. That we can go forward and do this. That's good. I mean, obviously, you've got you know, they get that. That reward, you know, afterwards if I just got humiliated now await never mind, I was just TV show. Now, get a sweet and all that stuff. That's cool. Sweet reward we have a long night of activities here on the boat. So I think it's time to bid farewell to a quick Harry. Carey should. Yes. So I hear. I'm actually I'm going to switch it. I'm gonna do on its I I feel like it's even better. Okay. So you're an impressionist. Yeah. Hit us. No, no. We want to do is Kermit. Do it a lot? When I go to the kids in the hospital and all that stuff. So it's good. That's great. I'll do something for that. Perfect. You know, here we are sitting here with the impractical jokers were trying to talk about all kinds of funny things. It's more about making jokes. Kind of like I do with miss biggie. To have a good time. That's exciting. You have Brian Quinn. Salvo Kano James Murray in Joe ghetto name so exciting to be here with you guys. And also with you as well. So thank you so much for the time being here. I look forward to maybe showing off the again, some other time nice. That is a man that has struck out Derrick jeeter. Just one time. That's one I need. A lot more than me. Oh, that's excellent man that thank you so much for taking time and doing this Eric is do you have a podcast or anything you will? So I've got to I've worked with my buddy over there. It's called ship. You off air base out of Dallas talk about the Dallas, sports and stuff. And then the other one is called the secret handshake stood up with one of my buddies. He works for a company called yom's with the hats. They do it's like a winking face out. If you ever seen him, but we we do a lot of random topics there too. It's all over the place. But yeah, I I got into it. I love doing, you know, the I love the talk. I love to do a lot of other impersonations just goofing off. You know, it's it's all about. So it's good to get on here with you guys. I love this kind of stuff. So again, thank you for part of that. Of course. Jeff. Thank you so much for be honest. Jeff johnson. Yeah. Thank you guys are shaded. If you wanna see Jeff just look at the tenderloin schedule. Yeah. You come on watch me. Tell people not to videotape. The shell. All right. Thanks for listening. Enjoy baseball season. And make sure you subscribe on apple podcasts or whatever else. You get your podcasts. Let's go Mets Yankees. Art.

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