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"sweat lodge" Discussed on Beyond Picket Fences
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"sweat lodge" Discussed on Beyond Picket Fences
"We had the pleasure of sitting down with laura for three episodes. Please welcome laura tucker me. I'm andy how are you good. How are you doing good good. We're excited. have laura tucker back for the third time how are you. I'm well. I was just thinking and saying that. This is like a bit of a marathon. The endurance but it's been great. We're not tired jet. Let's go so i have a question. You briefly mentioned that. You left self-help altogether for five years..
"sweat lodge" Discussed on Beyond Picket Fences
"Hey it's good to have you here. Come on in have welcome to the beyond picket fences. Podcast we are your hosts mandy. Panicky and naomi marquez. Laura tucker is the host of free your podcast photographer writer and recovering goat a creative heart. Laura likes to explore. Figure things out create stunning visuals and nuanced conversations as an insight provoking leader and speaker. Laura has helped hundreds of entrepreneurs and business leaders. become more self-aware. So they can lead more intuitively. She is a former high school teacher trainer. Sales professional multi entrepreneur consultant and leadership coach. Laura survived the two thousand nine beatles sweat lodge at a self help retreat in sedona. You may recognize her from enlighten us. A c. n. Films netflix documentary about the self help industry and the wandering podcast.
"sweat lodge" Discussed on Beyond Picket Fences
"Guru dot com which is fantastic. You need go read it but in case somebody doesn't have time. Can you kind of summarize your thoughts on that. Sure sure and i did. I thin posting it. I did a follow up. Podcast is lower. I read the article and then talk about some of the conversation that it's done generated what value it's on my own. It sounds on your yeah on episode ninety one because it went in my world what happened to it with semi viral. Look at had some ladies on that people started sharing it and really responded to it. And i almost mentioned earlier when you're talking about the the structure sweat much because this now i've watched up to episode six or seven of nine perfect strangers as one of the things that were really annoying me is that what looks to fight large because extolled and i need to do some more research. Because i don't know this is just a fictional structure and they just use it as a sweat sauna and they certainly hasn't. They're they're in there and they're steaming and their primal screaming and so it kind of making me laugh but it also is impossible for me to watch it and think. Okay i really kinda get. I see where the research has been done here. So yeah nine perfect strangers. I'm not trying to discourage anyone from watching it. That's not my that's not my thing. I'm quite enjoying it as entertainment. And a bigger critique If it is satire. i'm still not clear but as you know from reading the article that five minutes in to the opening scenes when characters are being introduced. There's a line that is in. Melissa mccarthy's first seeing which if i i probably don't hurt now remember those people that sweat lodge. They thought they were being light but in reality they were being cooked and as someone who was in that sweat lodge and someone his friend who saw it. I thought it was important enough to send me a text message while i was on vacation and saying as up you know. I don't know where there's going but the sweat lodges mentioned right away so get ready and while. I appreciate nine perfect as entertainment. I took the line quite seriously because nobody thought we were going into the sweat. Lodge to be. Lighten orton get enlighten and the metaphor of the cooked. Just the way that it was wade out. It puts the onus and responsibility on those people in got.
"sweat lodge" Discussed on Beyond Picket Fences
"I started to become more vocal. On of given some of in the last year the three people who died were unquestionably victims that launch they died and there were over forty people who lived experience to also were die but we had the experience of actually surviving and dealing the fallout witch for a long time. I didn't think of myself and still don't wear the victim Label comfortably but last year when i participated in what became the the big podcast by wondering. Do the dark side of enlightenment. A part of that journey. I had an interview with s three. I was real prime profile. All also owned by one degree in it it's An fbi profiler and investigative her senators three hoax quite an interesting interview and they are highly highly apathetic and lots of saying about south about what went on their breakdown of it. But my episode really good central on the the very uncomfortable. Masol a survivor in dealing with if you can't allow yourself for a time To see yourself as a victim than pass to healing is is stunted and ironically in all the years since that happened nobody had ever put that in this happened in private conversations and it also happened in the public conversation and that is hard to the vernacular of crying and when there's a perpetrator there are victims so it opened the door for me to start really looking at. What was my experience. When liz neuman slid in deciding to go onto the sweat lodge experience nothing but joy and relief because i was nervous. I had I don't get nervous often. But i had you know some ominous feeling. You see a fire. I didn't really know what we were going into. She slid into lying beside me. I knew she was very experienced at it. She was an amazing human being loved by all they didn't know her well but she was there as a facilitator that she needs to be a certain place in size and that ended up being besides me what came with that was that throughout the course of this lodge. She had told us that it some things to do. If we found it was getting to be too hot for us including turning away. Burlington's the sand. It's cooler like.
"sweat lodge" Discussed on Beyond Picket Fences
"There's this method that they do. The sweat lahser maybe hip level or lower Women don't go on their menstrual cycle. There are there's a space in your head that of clarity and kindness and genuine authenticity before you go in. There is no greed or misunderstanding. About what you're doing so it really talks about that connection to self and your awareness. It's it's the latter end of a long spiritual journey verses tossing you in something when you're not quite ready to your point it is. It is the skin of the animals that they love and appreciate that are lining the sweat lodges so then to you know. Take it as you said appropriate for money monetize it and not give it the full appreciation for what it is well and you know and it's interesting because it's all when i tell it i try to tell it from where i was at at the time because i think in terms of why is this even relevant. Why why do i even. Why do we even become all that is because the sweat lodge that i was in has become a metaphor for so many other things. But it's become a metaphor for what's not a metaphor example cultural appropriation win the early days. When i was hearing criticism about the money aspect of it we were very criticized for paying any money to any retreat. So for me. That was all balled up in the same thing. And i didn't perceive that i had paid direct money to go into sweat lodge but the fact is i had made money to be there. So that's about as direct as hindsight and is is important and also the way that was set up and explained and this is where it's very easy to be criticized gullible. But i'm very trusting and i trusted what i was seeing. I trusted what i was hearing. A long does things were that you know. The person who was being lodge with james ray had been trained in it and it was being done in a certain tradition.
"sweat lodge" Discussed on Beyond Picket Fences
"Thanks for your support now. Back to the episode. Now i hadn't put two and two together but all of a sudden it makes sense that the year before in the fall all of a sudden door all kinds of people particularly you notice it on women who had very short cropped hair and i flash back to that They oh my all not explains it. But i never really paid person to walk up to somebody just said. Hey why why your head shaved or why did you hair so short never occurred to me so that took me completely off guard and initially i was like no frigging way and my shaving my and And that was my decision through the better part of the week and it was a hung over me literally over my head the entire week and you know there are certain number of people right away went shaved their heads. They knew it was coming. They've made up their mind. They were going to do it. They probably had wigs bought and ideas. About how explain it when they got me. I was completely shocked. And i was just like no that is not happening. So the wrath of the week was intermittently in and out of the classroom or the. Yeah it was more like classroom and this thing up really late at night. Journaling writing doing all these in our exploration and then there was a second challenge and less challenging than than the Was a night out in the desert on what called a vision and after the night out the desert we were brought in back to the classroom and wrapping up the week. And i thought it was done like i literally thought we weren't. We're just kinda done. And then not. When i clued into that there was one more towns left and that was that. Finish off the week together. We were going to do what is called a sweat lodge and sweat lodge is a an indigenous spiritual ritual.
"sweat lodge" Discussed on Beyond Picket Fences
"You know a lot of time. The filing it was true or to retreat format than i had experienced and oh was normal and well as far as i knew at the time and at the very end of that van which was arduous to really explain what what the whole nature of the experience and that week is probably best that i share some of the activity that led up to the sweat lodge at the end of the week so the contrast was this. Typically you would go to nice hotel. You would stay in a posh room sometimes with a roommate to save money and gather all day and into the evening in one of the means ballroom or where people would would have wedding and other corporate events so you know that was the environment that most of this stuff went on and and and that was part of the experience quite frankly it was really nice to get away from working in the car dealership and go off week to learn and grow and i made some fabulous friendships that that i still have today so there was a community affect to to the whole experience as well. That was part of the draw so when we arrived in dona my tv six area since you don't know and i traveled there in october. Two thousand one less than six weeks after nine eleven so it was came to my earlier this month. That remembering that when nine eleven happened that trip with a big deal and that was like are we gonna go. We didn't get on a plane and that had the specter of nine eleven over it. The bonus of it was hardly. They're pretty much had all the hiking. The trails restaurants everything south so i was like. Oh don't is so amazing. Cannot leave. If that. And though i rise and i'm not the type of person who plans too much other than get on the plane the ride up to angel values booked. I haven't really looked on a map to see where it was. I you know. I don't wanna sit on for the next. We're so you know. Valley is out in the middle of nowhere. It's a good twenty. Maybe thirty minute drive west of sedona and i in the middle. It is absolutely certain property. Middle of red rocks. Not the ones that you go and visit when.
"sweat lodge" Discussed on Beyond Picket Fences
"A lot. I have to be honest. You know brought a lot of benefit to me. I was an avid learner. And i had a situation where i could immediately go apply. Some of my what. I was learning whether it was something for me. Either you know whether it was you know that is. When there's a wellness practice came into my to my life. That's when i establish spiritual practices like meditation and conscious south care. That was when i was looking at relationships. And in you know and seeing that you know being pretty much a workaholic. I was starting to get attention to some of my existing relationship that were not where they could be. And then on the workfront. I could go into my client site and connect with them in a different way which yielded very strong resolve and was my lifeline. She's saying not just in struggle. The work was was still very challenging. But i was able to thrive all the way through the recession. And i attributed a lotta that. I was learning so there was there was that time for. The journey unfolded one of the things that james was doing was. He was working with a coaching school. And he was recruiting people to fill out and build an organization for himself. And because of my background is as a teacher consultant. This whole idea that home and do that for a living could coach. I didn't even know. That was the thing i coached baseball when i was a teenager with. My dad coached my brother or something. I always had that coaching teacher. My mom and a lot of women in my family are teachers. So i really started to see myself in in that role in so i got involved there and then he was Building out speaker. Because there's been a pint pint-size. I play here now. But but it's not all that to seasonable for a single person to run that type of business or at least that business model they have to be everywhere they have to be constantly out..
"sweat lodge" Discussed on Beyond Picket Fences
"sweat lodge" Discussed on Beyond Picket Fences
"We had the pleasure of sitting down with laura for three episodes and in this episode. You're about to hear. Laura shares the story of how she was introduced to the sweat lodge that led to the fatal events in two thousand nine. The anniversary is actually october eighth almost two years ago. Stay tuned at the end of this episode for a preview of episode to where laura talks about the dark underbelly of the self-help world honey. I'm andy how are you good. how are you doing. I'm good good good. We are very excited to have laura tucker on today. How are you. I'm well thank you so much for having me pleasure to be here. Yes yes where. Would you like your story to begin well. I think it's a big story. So he's we need to acknowledge not right up front and for the purposes. I'll what might be most meaningful to miss nerve is. The story begins very briefly in two thousand and five. When i away from i was thirty seven or thirty eight at the time and i moved away from toronto ontario to western canada and began imported over my business and at the time. I was single. Me my dog and my class and my cameras packed up and moved west like the proverbial you know go west adventure and through that jury of being self employed at the time. I was consulting the automotive industry. And if anyone is aware of the business climate in two thousand seven two thousand eight two thousand nine. The great recession hit. And i was working in. I was working in the sector that was very affected namely automotive and the bottom fell out and my job at that time with to support the dealership in their service and parts department. Believe it or not. But i was right in their training and working side by side with employees and the business dried up almost overnight. And i think it's a relevant background because even though compared to what we've experienced in the pantheon michael lot of us with what has happened to the businesses. And i don't think we'll know for a long time coming what the true economic impact is got very very talented so even work that had become challenging work. But i was in my competency. So i knew what i was doing. I could support my clients but all of a sudden they're environment got very challenging. And i was looking for new tool to be able to support them and at the same time i was feeling very insecure in my business knowing got any time any of my clients. Who's decided that i was an expense on the bottom line that needs to be cut in order to do the right thing for their business so it was the tug of war between making always making sure that i was bringing as.
"sweat lodge" Discussed on Beyond Picket Fences
"Hey it's good to have you here. come on in. Have he welcome to the beyond picket fences. Podcast we are your hosts mandy panicky. At marquette's laura tucker is the host of free your inner guru podcast photographer writer and recovering coach creative at heart. Laura likes to explore. Figure things out create stunning visuals and nuanced conversations as an insight provoking leader and speaker. Laura has helped hundreds of entrepreneurs and business leaders. become more self-aware. So they can lead more intuitively. She is a former high school teacher trainer. Sales professional multi entrepreneur consulting and leadership coach. Laura survived the two thousand nine fatal sweat lodge at a self retreat in sedona. You may recognize her from enlighten us. A cnn films. Netflix documentary about the self help industry and the.
Meet Christa Couture, Author, Indigenous, Disabled, Mom
"There's something really important than i think. We need to talk about first. And that is the fact that apparently you fold everything including dishcloths. We gotta start with you. It's wtrw yes i do. I do fold everything away. Gosh my secret is out. I mean well. I am very like tidy very organized person and you know on one hand. I love like the drawer. Everything being neatly tidied and put away because then it's like pleasing. It's like a small little tiny moment of of having fresh flowers. It's just like oh that's nice And i think for a while. I mean there's probably a part in my life for any little mishap would crush me and i think it's sort of turned me into a bit of a neat freak because it meant that that was an area of my life i could kill some control over so there was a time. We're just kinda served me well to think okay. Well at least taken full these dish put them away so that when it opened the door. It's not total chaos. I can't do much else. So i think i've always been a tidy person. But i think it probably got heightened in the in the last years but yes. It's true it's true. I'm i think. I know where you may be got some secret intel. All i'm going to share is at the person who related this very critical intel to me said it also happened to be pretty life changing for them. So that's good to hear that a positive listed in the beginning right but but then ultimately life changing in every way match so you grew up. Sounds like into a certain extent. Kenneth splitting your time part With your mom and canada and then summers aish with your dad in montclair new jersey to set aside a new york for those who don't know where that is. Your dad Was cree and sounds like he was. A healer was a culture her first nations culture part of your life from the earliest days. I'm curious yeah. And in this way that i wouldn't have known was remarkable or even to name because it was just there and my dad did also live in northern alberta. There was yeah definitely split my time and a few few homes as per custody agreements and my parents both moving a lot and so where he lived in northern alberta was was on a a cre- reserve and and he was a healer. And so you know what. My dad's house. There was a sweat lodge in usually one or two ts in the yard and he ran various ceremonies and in the summer. We would go to another camp where he ran fast for people. And i would my sister and i would just be running around in the field and he would be doing that work. And so you know as a kid i didn't i. Of course. I took it for granted that the swizz present in my life and that i had access to ceremony which of course for a lot of indigenous people. There's been you know. A break for a lot of heartbreaking reasons and so i feel really grateful that it was just there i mean the soaraway. I feel about it now. Is that you know as a teenager. I was like okay. Whatever dad and then by the time in my twenties i was ready to come back and say okay wait. Can we now talk about this. Can you share these teachings with me. More you know explicit way was when he was was sick and when he died and so i wasn't able to kind of learn more from him in a more direct way but but of course it it shaped me and it was. It was there. My child had the. I mean even just to know that this is a part of you from the earliest days until learn through us moses through just being around it. I think that's so powerful. It's something that i've been come kind of fascinated with the concept of lineage and heritage over last couple of years. Maybe i'm at that point in my life where i'm getting curious about it. And if it like so often so many of us really know nothing about you. Know not just our parents as human beings but also the lineage that you know their parents and their parents and their parents and and what may have been lost along the way. Yeah and it's interesting. What gets shared. Because my dad was also french that my last name couture was my dad's last name but i know i know about french. Canadian like i would feel a bit shakey thing. I say a french canadian ancestry. I don't feel like. I'm part of that cultural group in the present whereas my from my mother's side she scandinavian and her parents lived in new norway. Alberta says it all right there and and so there was. There was some presence of that. You know adhere the stories and some of the words and the way. They talked about being norwegian and swedish. Was there but dia french. But i kinda i don't really talk about some like i wouldn't know what to say so it's interesting with the lineage. Because it's also like what was what happened to be present and so i can't the ways that i think of myself. I mean i think of my father very much as a cre- person although he was also mixed you know technically
"sweat lodge" Discussed on The Coastal Athlete Program
"So that was quite an exciting and quite nice that we were able to get him on there like a red kind of like thinner bed that I can carry. That's maybe five or ten pounds don't go away on the floor. You just hangs out and he's a good I mean it was weird cuz the flight was quiet cuz they pretty much brought around wage. They asked you if want a coffee or water and they bring it back to you and then they gave you like one little bag of snacks and that was it. Yeah, they pretty much were sitting there at the front with us pretty much so just to go over the edge. Like you flew out of San Diego you feel into San Jose and but how many times have you gone through San Diego security Now with service dog? And is this the first time that you've traveled with tubs endemic it remember the second question. So the first one you said service dog in San Diego. Yep. I have gone in and out of San Diego probably over a dozen times with service animals. Okay, you've done that numerous put your first service and log taken through TSA screen that gives you a kind of a basis Chevy was the one I did at the most but as part of the training trying to expose dogs to TSA in the process to it and how to behave through that we were able to like me get these checked and they give a special boarding passes and off we practice it a couple of times. But yeah, it's it was pretty easy to get through security with him. We get him being top tucked. Yes. Him as in Tuck we get through pretty easily talks also trained to expect and TSA for everything to be taken off of him and to be called naked. Yeah, he has no colon even his identification caller not just says working colored all of that comes off. That's just something that he's been trained in and we have worked on so I feel comfortable doing that. I'm saying every team should do that and a lot of times it does on a really high very well. He'll sit all go through the metal detector keep him sitting and then I'll call him through and off but I get swamped. He loves TSA cuz he gets petted and told him the only times that he's on vest or is in a quote-unquote work mode and gets headed by somebody other than me page doesn't even pay attention to talk on best. Yeah, but the TSA them down so he's like, I like a physical attraction. Oh, yeah. It's basically just your patent down to make sure I'm not hiding anything in this song. He thinks he's just getting paid and he's not used to anyone else engaging with her right away. But yeah it also too. He's he's taught for the most part that if people engaged with me or with him, not me with him when he's on best a lot of times. He'll come away from home, but she knows them then he just he's talking social and he loved certain people and he doesn't control himself..
"sweat lodge" Discussed on The Coastal Athlete Program
"Live from the shores of Monterey Bay Packer is your host shot, you know from people listening at home in case you haven't figured it out. We're all together right now. Yeah, like I can I can see happiness or short-circuit. I'm playing the posi right now is a disturbing sequence of words. Oh, no, you can't hear me that part of the charm. I'm your mother shed by my co-founder Cohoes partner-in-crime good friend at you and me the shredded Yeti himself the sideways slider of Southern California Lake Jackson and the show is produced today as always by our fearless producer the sexiest voice this side job. The sippy put your mask on which is very similar to the Mississippi's. However, the sippy should be is a river made entirely of sippy cup liquids Thursday. It's 10:00 look it up. I don't want to learn about psychedelics. It might I mean I have heard. That when one takes psychedelics, no, I have a buddy like legit. I have a buddy who was he was like had to get his boss some acid such a New England Life Festival off. That would be even better and Birkenstocks songs basketball, and she currently he bought some acid who brought it home and then had to like get it out of the house. And so he put it in his hat and had it like in a plastic bag and everything off and whenever yeah, long story short, whatever he whatever when he moved it The Heat And the perspiration that long story short dude, like he he got way more than he bargained for out of that experience. That was it was actually felt really bad for him. What are you doing? Bro? Told me the story about this kid in her high school class that they nicknamed Scary Larry and he dropped acid into his eyes during class and shit and he entered ended up in a very sweet institution ended up in a mental institution in a mental institution in my mom said her one of her friends at the time took her to go off at the pet store. I'm tired you guys with you as the mental home. So how long will I be here? don't know four to six days since the website really. Are you seeing somebody else? Thought well, you're about to be safe and everyone else who's here. You have a friend utensil much acid went crazy. I mean, you know stories about schizophrenia and above all these other like late mental issues that are drawn out by hallucinogens. Like you also hear some stories a lot of deals with PTSD are using different. Hey easy on the humps. Yo, he's coming home. She's not pregnant. I'm not being there humping directly in front of me cozy.
"sweat lodge" Discussed on Free Your Inner Guru
"And I had an amazing week plus three days down in Scottsdale with a couple of girlfriends and you know just like. At that point, there was never any doubt whether or not I would go to spiritual warrior because of the location and my drive to. Use My camera but also it is going to be for me my last event. In a very different way. So going to Sedona was. We arrive at Angel Valley every other every other event had been Atta fairly luxurious location whether people were rooming with equal not it. There's always travel expenses and everything else. That's quite an investment. What is there anything you want to talk about that entire experience that's been overlooked the UCLA hasn't been given voice yet. Think about that. I mean there's so much right because we I've done I guess. Three interviews for three three main interviews right and I sat for hours in these interviews. And the thing that gets pulled out is the recollection of the details of having witnessed people coming out of the Sweat Lodge and so I've actually said these several times and so it's like, okay. Well, what's really important right? Like obviously it's not important or they would have put it in and it's Not. Important to them. Correct. That's what I really see right now. Is he out like? Yeah so for me Sedona was I was no longer in World Wealth Society We had our our year have with off we chose not to renew has it just really wasn't what we anticipated what we thought we had signed up for and we. In the sense that we weren't getting to make the difference like we really thought when we signed up that the money was going to make a big difference and so there was a miscommunication or something along the way in that we had to any difference that we wanted to make a group as a were well, society would outside of what we had already paid. So anyway, it was just a lot of things that. It didn't feel good anymore. We were going to re sign up and so. I had done all the programs right so that That was part of it except for the Pinnacle Program, which was spiritual, warrior. And all of the people that I was. You know part of my community, the world while society we traveled we did a lot of things together even outside of the other events out we went to Egypt together for you know weeks send. Had A. Kabo San, Lucas. There was lots of other that we went to. That was just for that group of people inner circle and. To. A large group of them let's put it. I don't even know how many had gone to spiritual warrior in two, thousand and eight. And I chose not to at that time because I was like, oh, gosh you know we're already doing so much stuff. I have a business run either SOEM and festivals. I have I have played this debate the other things to do right and so I couldn't I did not take the time to do that one in Oh a, it wasn't calling me at that time. At that, because we went to Egypt after the two thousand and eight event like most of the people from their spiritual warrior. Oh. Egypt Egypt. and. So here we all show up in Cairo and there's voice shaved heads. Just happened to you guys right and so I got to hear stories the secrecy of it. All right like, oh, we're not going to tell you the details but oh my gosh, it is alleged amazing event you have to go you have to do it next year and so there was all of that high l. back going on about people that I consider my friends are like and I still do consider many of them my friends but there was conversation holy Moly I had to go to spiritual wire. So when it came back around, it was I I really do want to do the pentacle program I've got a lot of rave reviews from people I trust that it's it's it's worth doing. and. So I was excited to go just Virgil Warrior and There was a couple of us that hadn't been the you know we're going to do it together. So there were other people actually attending spiritual words. So it was also we were getting to do it together. And Since I wasn't a part of the new world wealth aside and I didn't go to any of the other event after that year, they'd already done them I didn't get to see some people. So this was my first chance to see some of those people from April and here in. October. October, right? Yeah. See remember the days US anyway in October. So it was like a reunion for me to get to go and see some people I hadn't seen in a long time and we really excited about that. Yeah, the community theme runs really. Really deep for for both of us but that's what I'm really hearing from you. Do you WanNa let's this is a good opportunity to talk a bit about the interviews you have given. I know two of them for sure one of them would have been enlighten us the documentary that were were both in and one of them is through the podcast True crime podcast out were both in the third was that. Network thing or yeah. That was twenty twenty which I believe is on a ABC I duNNo. Yeah it was right after so. Right after we experienced the sweat lodge and wet home who? was. Shell shock for sure about like Whoa. What just happened like I. don't even know what I think about all of that I just need some time to decompress and just. Figure it out like he'll first and then figure it out because there were other things going on but. Where was I going? Oh. So Immediately in the absence of a voice from anyone at the sweat lodge was a law of media hype and speculation and filling in blanks that they had no right to fill in blanks. Weren't there so. You know it turned into a circus coup. Watched it from home from pretty much approaching position on my couch I don't think I think my phone may have rang but at that point in time I was not picking up. Yeah I I really wasn't. It wasn't until I guess December like there was there was a gap right and. So. Much just every time I looked at a at an article. Watched anything like a there were still things going on the down below on the TV programs, right? The little news the. Yeah Yeah and it was like Oh. Gosh and in the people that I would interact with right like they would say things about Oh, my God I saw you are in that thing and and you know they would have their reaction in like it was all frantic in all this stuff and. Were Judge Mental Mayor Gary. Judgmental. No it. There was no judgment. was there. Sarcasm. Doesn't flatter me, but I couldn't help myself like. Sarcasm say yes and so I did get a call and I was like, wow, I don't want to do this I. Don't I really just want sleep away and like this die down. I don't know why. I. Would do it like it doesn't. There's nothing good that can really come of it what I was. So tired of them talking about how we were lemmings. The big thing at that, you know I three months was these were bunch of lemmings and they just did whatever they were told people got hurt and people were actually angry at the people that were in that sweat lodge like we had done something to people and like or that we hadn't done something and then there was a lot of blame. People were hurting their their people in the community that were hurting. There were people you can't believe you're saying these things. Highlight a lot and so I just was so tired and I was I kept asking the question of why in the world was I there why didn't I die why? Why did I get to live? What was my purpose in all of this? What in the world am I supposed to do with it and like those were the questions that were going on the Louis as I kept hearing them say things about. Kirby and James and Liz because at that pointless had passed and it started to amp up even more about how people just didn't understand how this can happen and I was like, Whoa. Okay is to be brave I have to say something I saw this for a reason and I have to trust that speaking up right now to be a voice for the voiceless. Is What has to happen even though I can't figure out why this cannot be good for me to step up it cannot be good. And so. I. Did I did it I flew to San Diego. That's what I interview was is and they just said that they.
Coronavirus behind bars
"We reached out to the Washington Department of Corrections and were able to connect with Jeremy Barklay. He's the director of engagement outreach for the Washington Department of Corrections. He says there are about eighteen. Thousand inmates in the states. Twenty four facilities about a thousand identify is native American although testing is limited. The state counts twenty-six inmates total with cove in nineteen the state released about eight hundred fifty inmates who qualified as a way to help slow the spread of the virus. Barkley says his department worked with tribes for enrolled members. Who were released? The office of tribal relations within the Department of Corrections has Desert knees from each of the Twenty Nine federally recognized tribes within the State of Washington. And so we are office was in contact with those tribal delegates to let them know Which tribal members were Qualified under the rapid reentry or commutation furlough so that we could further smoothie reentry process between those native individuals and the home communities to which they returning It allowed us to ask what resources might be a need whether that is You know whether we could focus on on clothing or make sure that the tribe had available foodbank resources and any type of Services that those individuals needed on a case by case basis we were able to better communicate with those tribes And again hopefully guarantee a more smooth and successful reintegration back to the community. We've been very pleased with the reception we've received from the tribes and Very pleased with the way that We built systems before code so as to work on releases for our native peoples in that. Was Jeremy Barklay with the Washington Department of Corrections? The system also requires physical distancing mandatory face covering for all inmates and staff an additional cleaning and disinfecting. That's one view into all of this. What's yours go ahead and join us right now at one. Eight hundred nine six two eight. Four eight is the number and joining us today. Out of Seattle Washington is Gabe Glenda. He is the managing noyer for Glenda Brodmann and founder of hoyt he belongs to the Round Valley Indian tribes are pleasure to have him here. Thank you for joining us for another native America calling had Internet and gave. We just heard a little bit. What's going on there in Washington state but give us a further view into this What are you seeing? What are you witnessing especially with the Washington stance on releasing state prison inmates early? I work with Hoy which is a nonprofit off named after the she'd word that means See you again. We never say goodbye. We've been working for the last ten years on making sure. Indigenous relatives in iron houses are able to spiritually rehabilitate. We work closely with a sister organization native American Reentry Services that runs a program that prepares them particularly spiritual return to society so that we don't mind them in trouble again and we've been working hard as we could for the last several weeks With the State Department of Corrections and we very closely with Mr Barklay and Lynn. Dennis tribal liaison for the Department of Corrections. LemMe Tribal member and we should everything they've done but we've really been feeling sort of like we're on the outside looking in in sort of a helpless way We've tried to help furnish PT donations from a local tribe especially when one of its own tribal members contract to positive for the disease at Monroe Corrections Center We have a bunch of able sewers in all of our circles within the state's prison system and we tried to have them be available to so masks for example or use within the prisons and we were unable to do that. we've been hamstrung and our ability to facilitate sweat lodge ceremony drumming circle or other spiritual activities to ensure. That relatives are are coping with this catastrophe and the best way possible without compromising Their own mental ability in wellbeing. And so we've worked with the DNC tried to work with the DNC and we're not trying to criticize them because we know they're in an unprecedented situation and taking all precautions. We believe but it's been difficult for us to sit on the sidelines and not do it. We normally do over the last eight or ten weeks and watch watch this thing on unfold as too early release We are encouraged that. A number of prisoners in our state have been released We would encourage the state to do more in that respect there are certain populations of our included. That should not be behind bars for example. Our our juvenile without parole Prisoners meaning a are men and women who were sentenced for horrible mistakes they made when they were juveniles sentenced to life without parole for example. But that's been deemed accrue on usual and unconstitutional punishment and so there are certain populations like those populations which includes cinnabar native relatives. Who We know about who should be added to these lists of people either of age or Health affliction or other status. That should be considered for early release
A good new home
"Tara Gatewood in here with me on the program today out of Saint Paul Minnesota. Is Angela go theor the associate director of Minoshe key and a young and also here too with the with the group is executive director. deb Foster her and she is a Saint Croix Ojibway from Eagle Clan. My pleasure to have both of them here with US and Andromeda turn turn to you. You've done a lot of work. I'm looking at your bio and see That you have worked with the county in family services and just knowing along the repetition or how many times young people are entering into foster care and then they age out and then there's no place to turn talk to me about how being there air at this critical time and offering them a space to not only the rest of their head but also gained a job development skills as well as even just I have to be self sustaining talked me about this critical time period. In what some of the things that the center is working on I I always ask people to reflect on the young people that they have in their personal lives and the natural support systems. That are there error. And how many times when you're C Eighteen nineteen twenty one. Twenty two year olds in your personal life that When they have love family to fall back on at times when they're having a hard time or they've They need a place to stay. Or they've transitioned positioned in their jobs or they're you know. They're struggling in some way when they have a natural place to go back to a lot of the youth that we are working with because as they have spent such extended time in foster care that they've been moved around a lot through their youth. They don't have those places to land The one thing with young and his dad was saying having been Serving the community since nineteen eighty. Three is that it is become that place for a lot of youth and families that they know when they're having a hard time that this is kind of their soft place to land that there are people here that can help and and so this expands our ability to do that for this youth in this age group is that this is a critical time when you are learning learning to live independently when they're wanting to you know find employment and look for career pass and go back to college and when you don't have how those supports Built in because you've been in foster care because you've had time and placement or been homeless this gives you more of that time name and all of the services That you could need as a jumping off point are here for you and we're here to build those relationships and to help them take that next step I'm just excited that we have an opportunity now to work with these US more closely for a more extended period. Take time to help them. Get through this point of transition and so tell me a little bit more about how it works. How permanent is the housing and some some of the support services that are going on Angeles? START US off yeah so youth enter the program Between the ages of eighteen to twenty twenty four years old The youth that are coming in have different backgrounds of homelessness and Foster Care The nature permanent supportive housing is that they could live in this housing forever if they wanted. There isn't a timeframe I'm in which they would need to leave. They just need to enter between the ages of eighteen to twenty four and they have to continue to qualify for the subsidies that are or a helping to assist with their rent During the time that they are there the support services that we have we have to transition coaches that start working with the youth rate rate at the point of referral. And they're the ones who are working with you to collect their housing history. All their vital documents they information that they need in order to you. Qualify for the housing and those transition coaches continue to work with those youth to help them. That goal plans navigate resources and everything that they need on that and they're like housing goals we have a full time youth and family therapists. That is dedicated to the building and that therapists can do individual work Couples therapy family therapy is needed really to really meet. Whatever the needs are for that youth To help them be healthy in their community and their personal relationships. We also have a fulltime cultural specialist. Who is is trained in suicide prevention and post mention that is dedicated to the building? And he's there to help work with the youth To you meet their cultural needs and to help them. Connect back with their own communities as well We have the ability to have ceremonies. We have a cultural cultural activities center. We have medicine gardens and sweat lodge on site and so he's really the coordinator of that for all of the youth We are also adding a safe harbor case manager which is dedicated to working with you who are at risk of or have been involved in sexual exploitation and so the case management will be dedicated Just to that kind of aspect and helping them navigate gate through the resources and the sensitive nature of that and then there's property management that's onsite with our partners that help them with their lease and like the money portion portion of everything and then the We're also staff twenty four hours a day so there's always some support staff here for the residents when they need it into my turn to. Oh you balancing all of this because it sounds like a lot and it sounds like the things that often are left out of the equation win A lot of times we start trying trying to help our youth Trying to get them going faster. Start on life. How is all of this being balanced or is this part of the blueprint to make sure that all of these things were there Not only supplying a place to live. But supplying a place to thrive tell me more dip. Yes we In addition to what Angela has said we have the building was built around The the all of the needs of the young people. So for instance we have Circular gathering centers on each floor where Kids will be able to gather We have the purposely did efficiency apartments because we wanted at their full apartments full kitchen refrigerator. Everything bathroom beds living area but we wanted them to network with new folks And have an opportunity to establish new networks and We also have a workforce training center so A Complete Computer Center Training Center. Where kids can do everything? I'm from working on covering letters Building resumes doing job search learning technical skills And and types of activities. That are involved in building those opportunities for young people We also have a Fitness Center down in the lower level providing opportunities for young people to strengthen their health and and wellbeing physically physically and also the teaching kitchens that you mentioned on each floor to Help kids learn how to cook. And how to cook healthy We also have as mentioned a cultural activities center. So that is where all the kids can learn how to make their own regalia and do beadwork and make their own drums. But more importantly learned the history behind all of these things We have an entrepreneurship program that We have for young people that were putting together that will allow you to work onsite. We have a credit store which which I like to describe as kind of like a mini walgreens and so Use can earn vouchers that they can use in these stores and it has everything a walgreens would have but it also provides an opportunity for young people to work there and they can learn some Shaath work skills such as profit and loss and stocking talking and ordering cashiering things like that Also we have a food shelf and we also have a clothing store so these are all opportunities for young people to garner some software skills And we have numerous or as partners throughout our community. That are going to be working with us as well. And providing internships and workforce skills and Places where they can establish a ged or finish high school learn about post secondary education. If that's what they WANNA
Death and dying: how Indigenous communities grieve, survive and thrive
"A Dula is someone who supports another person through a significant health related related event the most common being a birth Dula. But there's another kind of Dula a death Dula. They help people through the end of life transition. My Kelly's an elder from the Schwab Hamill first nation and he is a death Dula. He joins me from Vancouver. Welcome Mike Thank you Wonderful trip down here in coming weather so this is a field that I never heard of before. Can you tell me what a death Dula. Dad's we as first nations people. We've been doing it for while myself. I've been doing it for almost half of my life on ready to Help the people crossover back into the spirit world way. And how do you do that through prayer and encouragement and Just making sure that they're comfortable with the prayers say always one hundred percent feel better after prayer in in a few words. So how did you get into this field of work back in seventies here when I changed my life into Christian life and started from there just doing funeral sedan after that asked go. Pray the people on her deathbed in hospital sending Zenden at just transpired from there So how do you incorporate your first nation culture into your practices at as Death Dula. It's pretty similar to what a death Dula does today. I go in and talk to the family and make sure that I can go in and talk to their loved one. That's laying there and pray with them. Talk to them. Encourage them narrow that there's life after the deaths and stuff like that and help them to let go of their fear and doubt and what's going to happen to them after the leave this physical plane. Is there kind of ceremony that that That you take people through everything we do with prayer and encouraging me is ceremony. I mean that's what I call her then as I talk to them I pray with them and sometimes I do the hands hands on healing tennis similar to Ricky. We do that kind of work to and that alleviates. Lots of the pain and fear that they have after I get done praying with them and encouraging them they always say way I feel better. I'm not so frayed today. Now it's it's all positive encouragement and a prayer and offering for their goal is a good place to after they leave the physical plane of life. So when you're taking people through this process what kinds of things do you do you. Tell them to to ease their pain or ease their krief. They're going to a place where there's no more pain. No more sorrel All of the Christians they call them angels and US as native people we call them ancestors and we meet all of our ancestors on the other side and they're singing and dancing missing while we're over here on this site Mourning and weeping. Hey it's sometimes when we lose an important person person on this scientists. It's a really big loss for sure. This must be very difficult work to be doing. What kinds of self care do practice to make sure that you're okay or go to we have what we call a nineteen ten Indian Shaker Church and we do prayers in hands don healing brushing in there? I have A sweat lodge. They're going pray in sweat large and and Downtown we have Asana were we going there and we use our medicine and abuser prayer scenario and to lighten the load off of our our own selves our mind our heart and our body. Why do you think that this this kind of work? It is important portent. This work is very very very important because lot of our people that you know we've turned to a different different cultures and our own and a lot of our people don't know our culture and all day knows you're GonNa go to hell or you're going to go to heaven to encourage him you know that there's a place of peace on the other side. It's not erasing what Man Says it is right. Well thank you so much for your time today Thank you for having me. That was my Kelly. An elder from the Schwab Hamill first nation. Shen he is a death Dula.
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"sweat lodge" Discussed on The Psychology Podcast
"Tired. And oftentimes that's just the time. The sweat lodges. Same thing you're hot. You're sweating. It's like demanding physically, and that's where releases spiritual because from an indigenous point, it's all connected for aid. You had to go through the physical to get to the real stuff and from an indigenous point of view, the physical Israel as the mental and the spiritual Aveda that. Yeah. Well, he did the latter part of his life. You know, his revision that may people aren't aware of by putting transcendence at the top of his hierarchy, you know, kind of return to experiential aspect of human nature. He was very much into that. Peak experiences are very experiential. Then he spent time at we we really should should mention this. 'cause I know some indigenous populations are not so happy that he didn't talk more about his own experience. Visiting. Ng the black feet nation is correct yet foot nation exertion the black feet people's guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So in the thirties, and he spent some time there he was very interested anthropology, and he looked up to Margaret Mead and Benedict Ruth Benedict in very much very much. So he had some influence there. And as how much do you think that influence, you know, came back around again so to speak in the last couple years of life once he got more into eastern philosophy and mutism and towels and things like that. Yeah. Let me say in the book I ride quite a bit about aid. And I think I mentioned in incidentally to all people listening when you pick up a book, always read the footnotes. You a lot of notes, by the way every page of foot the four footnotes is personal things that you're reading care about. But you're not sure a lot of people will care. I footnote very juicy. Yeah. Exactly. That's gonna recommend that people had. So thing is that with aimed is that he hadn't great disadvantage. He grew up in urban environment disconnected from land and one of the things about indigenous peoples is a land based spirituality nature is the teacher. So Abe had kinda like already a kind of a block. And then during the times that he went he went to the success nation dishes. People were looked upon even by people like was Benedict argument as someone primitive. Others during primitive. So Abe kinda like he took a risk to go there, but very influenced by Benedict. And so some very powerful things, which he writes about member I mentioned, this is Scott in this. He's got a couple of papers that I've seen his journals. Yes. Yes. And he's written a couple of papers on that. Hey, everyone just wanted to take this moment to thank you all for your support of the podcast over the years. It's been a real privilege to do this podcast for y'all for the past four years, if you'd like to further support the podcast I wanted to you know, a few things you can do to help make us podcast a better experience for y'all. I I really appreciate it. If you subscribe to the psychology podcast on itunes. This would help make the show more prominent on I tunes and increase our listenership. I believe he can subscribe both in your iphone, your computer, second, be great. If you could give the show a rating and review tunes. I definitely read all the reviews, and they are helpful to others who are thinking about giving the show. Listen 'nother thing you can do which is new is to become a patron of.