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Now entering nervous dot com. Balance. Welcome four podcasts. Hello, everybody. Welcome to another ups owed of foreign podcast, the official Altron commentary podcast. I'm Kyle Anderson. Thank you very much for listening to another episode today. We're gonna be talking about season three episode five the journey, and I'm joined by two very important people who helped make this show happen. And they are my name is Josh Hamilton. I'm the writer of this episode. And my name is Josh Keaton and I wish to Josh Josh, no waiting. That's my favorite Chinatowns sequel. All right. So everybody at home. Make sure that you have your videos queued up all zeros and we'll hit play together in three two one play. Have to do that every time. Yeah. You have to legally founding. Yep. We're just watching this this opening again. It's pretty great though. I love it. I love it. Yeah. The total like I can't hear you. Now this movie magic. I guess. The sound the guitar. Do I wonder if I'm on like it's right there do. Yeah. It's pretty yeah. Yeah. I remember when they first started talking about like the music they went in there talking about this eighty cents in Rockford. And it was just like is so great finally here. Did you see the remix of the theme that DreamWorks put up? No. Awesome. So good watch after this. Dr trans AM listen to this. Afford guy. But. Muster. That's a beautiful car. I like those transam. So this episode. I think this is the longest I've ever been in an episode where I didn't say anything like no words. Just grunts and noises. And yeah, exactly. So you know, when you're writing something like this. And if you just like roads, he wakes up he looks around and start writing it on the page. It looks chunky. There's no dialogue. And so you end up throwing like efforts effort groans, and you must have done so many different kind of firts. Probably a nail them. I know you nail. These are my favorite type of sequences to do. I guess I guess. Says who loves them? So there's not one word. I love these scenes where ow, ow. Right. Legs network into. Well. I love the Iraqi just kind of chase a long section of video and just add the noise the sounds to it in real time. So I'll just kind of watch it through once see what happens, and then and then just go through and do the stuff in a big chunk. Usually, it's what do we do like, thirty seconds four seconds time. Yes. Eighty our processes like after it's already been, you know, animated or whatever then it's like you can see where the knee hits you could see where like someone gets punched. Exactly. And then we have you know, the script coordinator actually goes back in like believe it or not second-by-second figures out where the mouth opens where there's a grunt sound of Josh comes in. And he's like, you know, nails eight didn't the better you are the long you can go, right? Because I mean, I I would say that if this is something that's new that somebody's new two. They're probably going to be doing each queue individually. But I feel like there's so much more of an organic flow to it when it's all done at once because most. Of the time. They sounds bleed into each other. You know, if you have just this one static punch, and then like you layer in like a breath or this or a hit. It's not gonna sound the same as if it was all done in one. I love when you do. I mean, it blows my mind to how he hit others. And you know, you don't just do one take two three over and over again. It's like not choose the best one. I love it this this is where I get to play. Yeah. So does that possess cool because it's like well, first of all we haven't seen Shearer. No, one knew what happened shared the there's a question. There was a question of whether or not he died or not. So here isn't he's on our ship. It's kind of fun layer in these kind of story ideas early on where you know, you're gonna pay it off Wei later, it's just a question kind of keeps the audience interested in watching. And then we hear about the Koran. I forget what they called operation Koran or something like that. So there's something more that's going to go on you don't get answered in this episode. This is just like the return theme is like how does he get back? And is it easy is just so cool to watch like a person might try to go back home, you know, and like the journey. He's gotta go on. And how many times he almost dies in this? This is a little sorry. This is a little like Jurassic party, the watch remember sheep episode the Jeep sequence where like this Jeep like ends up upside down a tree this is the original drowsy park. Just so happen to watch as I was writing. And and in the it just never ends Jeep ends up in a tree. And then this GPS are Safaa. And so I was really sort of like harnessing a little bit of the Steven Spielberg for that. This whole thing's tipping our member recording this I actually like I'll try to take physical posture of whatever the characters doing as much as possible, obviously. Not gonna hang upside down. Because there's no way to do. It all is stuff. Like, I'm actually reaching and pulling trying to grab something or even the fights stuff. I'm still moving in the same way that that he would be moving because if your body's twisted in a certain way or compressed in a certain way, it's going to sound better. If you're actually doing it to match what he's doing. It's yeah. It's like you're doing a little bit of a running sequence you're gonna maybe even like get your heart rate up. No, I go, and I get I drop it. I do a bunch of push-ups, and then I'll actually be moving kind of moving my arms in the same way that you would when you're running and the hardest part. I think is just not getting your clothing noise. And the noise of your what you're doing because you on motion. Yes. That's the hardest part. So the other movie I was I watched member the revenue is that what it was called. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you know, I know. Why? And it's cold fights bear, and that and this in this episode timeline and talking about writing wise it. It just so happened. We're behind which shocker we were behind by the way in every phase of voltron, and it was just like we needed to catch up. And so I wrote this premise for this episode, and Tim Hedrick story editor, you know, had. I'd everyone had ideas. And I was like I know this episode I can write descript I don't need to write an outline now need to go through the process. And I was this is my the most fun. I had writing fun voltron was this episode. I know it's kind of dark. It's kind of like weird it's a little isolating. But I really like it though. I mean, you you kind of need that. It's it's very emblematic of Shiro general. Yeah. Completely he tries to put on a positive face. But he's got a lot of darkness that he's had to deal with and and he is very alone. And he's such a survivor, right? Like, I mean, there's if you think about like that where he was taken in the beginning cauterize pain the screams, the yell would probably be like scream of pain or something. But yeah, he's he's survivor. He was taking early on in the series. And the first time we meet him. He's returned from like fighting Gaul repeats. And it's like, it's almost kind of if you think about it. You can't he can't be killed weird way. You can see like how he's just looking for everything like if you were in a in taking shelter in that his first his first thought was all right. What killed this? Yeah. Stay away from whatever killed that. That's a cool detail. I remember like what walkie Lauren coming. Maybe the director had the idea. I'm not exactly sure. But they say what if it's these bones, the bones of something that you just been killed and. At that point. I just go sure. Yeah. Bones, B, O any. So as a writer would doing an episode like this where it's pretty much like you. We don't skip. What happens like it's beat beat beat like follows it along is that just sort of fun for you to like. Well, now, what does he do kind of like choose your own adventuring yourself? Yeah. Well, we kind of. You know, there's there's natural breaks. We have big moments act breaks, right? So indirect one in Iraq to innovative three. And so once you kind of this is going to be the wind, right? They don't actually have commercial breaks like TV shows. But we still write them in indirect wine is probably either right before he's attacked. Actually, I think that was it. And so then, you know, actor he has his fight. He meets these people. And I don't know. I do think it was just sort of. Yeah. For this kind of episode. It was a little bit easier for me. I think there was no time break. There was no be story. There was no big plan. And a lot of trial has these big plans. It's like, okay, pigeon Hucker not to go over here and win. They're over there. They're going to do this thing. I meet this person in this type this, and so, you know, you're doing four different stories at once and your remember like character arcs, and this one is just a man eases revive, and so many counters some crazy things. And so maybe baby was easier to write because of that. I enjoyed it. One that stands out as an episode. I think because of that too because it is kind of like it's just Xiros journey and we've had to wait so many episodes to figure out what happened to him. The little one. And this is my buddy, Matt met Moi. Yeah. Yeah. I I took pride in these two one is named I had to go back. And look it up set. This is not the top of my head of Aqalla, which has it's kind of like he's from this sort of like place with these like flowery language is the other guys names rim Dax and he's like the bay and in my head. I was thinking these people. These rebels get sent to these isolated planets, but they always go and teams there's one that's probably better communications probably that can like hunt, and like this way too much like device so happy with them. The other fun team coup little odd couple. I mean, you gotta be hungry on that planet. Yeah. This section. We did go back and punch up. I think it was a little more straightforward. Like who who are you? What are you doing here? And we got some notes from above. They just come from above. The white light. And. But they're, you know, so this is a perfect spot to kind of point at some jokes. It goes, really. Well, I mean, you would think that maybe Shiro people might have known if she row or house a rebel non isolated on this planet. And you know, he tells a story about escaping from a gall ship, and like really how do you how can you do that? So it's kind of fun to play with what people know what people don't know in this. Xiros in here. This this number has my parents papers. Yes. Paper as my parents number on it. They can only think about for me. They can they can bring you my my lunch money. Dad owns a dealership. So there was there actually was a story here and. It's a really it's a small one, which, you know, so low tour is taking command now, I guess the Garis not the emperor this acting emperor. Whatever then hag are. Doesn't think he's doing his job? And so she has him him tailed a little bit. And we get to see the dynamic between low tour and Haggar and how he's going to do how he's kind of doing things low towards doing things different than his dad would have done them. Great bill. Super cutting having. The only character with a haircut that rival Xiros hair. I think. Yeah. Well, there needs to be a contest. Been winning for too long has. But at what cost? List? Yes. So can of what hag are says to him later on. I'm jumping the gun. But you know, it's in what we see is the difference in styles. Low Torres thoughtful like Joshua sane. He's like thinking his plans out and Arcand kind of brute force. It's fun to see the difference. Yeah. He has to be more conniving though, because he doesn't have that whole infrastructure. That's built up over all this time. Yeah. Point to something and say do that. Gotta work it it's going to figure out how to get into that. So relatable. Wifi password. So I guess if you're if the smart audience, I mean, you have to look you'll know that now this time line is we've gone back in time because these are happened three episodes ago or something like that. Once again, I looked this up before. Just to be sure. But so it's kind of you kind of discover that like we're going back in time and see how that's actually a really good detail. And I think a lot of fans aren't really aware of. Yeah. Because a lot of fans aren't really too cognizant of what how much time has passed between this and other things where this actually stands on the time line. And honestly, like, maybe isn't something that matter. You know, your face is the only thing that gives it away because what happens in three episodes ago is low tower is being chased. And so he goes to face rakes. And there's this kind of world where instruments don't work and low to our calls in the fleet and Shiro is on one of those ships and three episodes ago. And I think the only clue really is the name face Rix, maybe that low has called them. So that the one running from the like a running them over the star. Satu one. Maybe think it's a win that go into this kind of gas planet, and sort of I think it's called the hunted. And oh, yes. Yeah. Totally different episodes. Sure just kind of toying with them right now. Oh, man. I don't wanna kill these. It's kinda good. He's he's also he's weakened, and you know, I like how keeps coming across and. The acting is amazing. The trying to if I but also be in pain. No, you won't. Stop a bullet with your teeth. Maybe listen to me. Do think Shiro should've kept the stubble though, too. Good. Look, I think it looks pretty true. See? Space. Dad wouldn't hurt? Anyone dude? So they're like. We'll if you and there is no script he killed them. Both. That's dr. Brutal conflicted about Shiro now. And then this would have just been talking to their dead. We can. Play actors. You can have our ship. I'm still trying to figure out what that means. He's crazy. Confirmed. Okay. So you've all here for this vision. He volunteered to be on this ice planet. Now, we're knowing a little more rebels that works. We're watching the subtitles. I did not know, hyper drive was hyphenated. I love I don't know. What was different art style. Here. Amazing. I totally agree that yeah. It's gritty super ninety. Oh, yeah. Look, so different. Maybe does mission impossible do this a bit of voice over over action happening. And I kind of like the sequence where it's like you're going to the cruiser, and they're gonna you. But you're small, and so, you know, you're on Shiro, and you see you see the the guns of what's going on. You see it's all part of this plan. They're only ship. Well. An hour. Just watching awesome stuff. Yeah. It was like that in movies to where it's like you're actually seeing the mission happened as like over here somebody else explaining what was going to happen. I read now subtitles. All these details of this ship, this maybe the first time we've ever said any of that stuff where it's like the weapons always retract better retract every time in the future. Now, it's been set up. So here we are now on for back to that episode. If you can. People might remember back. The crazy looking planet. This is so battle star. Love. Teach us fell down. No, no, don't abort. Yeah. Oh. That's not supposed to happen. That's that's video game. Yeah. Get hold of that. This is a great shot. So close south those God. Because you kind of forget that it's space and now he's far enough away. He can't get back like he's stuck in the middle of. Yeah. Exactly it becomes being stranded. Just waiting the and then it becomes basically the Martian where he's he's just gonna give is captain's log even though he's he knows he's doomed or he thinks he is. Not yet. I. We don't know this yet. Yeah. Mom. Stop talking to me. Mom. My mom. And what else do except just wait today? This is tough sequence to act, you know, just kind of keeping a face, but you're hungry. You're thirsty. Your systems are down by the end. Probably uncomfortable suit was not fitted for you true. Just still look good. That's all that matters. I guess when you don't have any gravity or any any sustenance? But don't have to move at all you could probably. Seven days. Probably kid. I don't know. Month. Maybe. What are you doing? Yeah. That's true. I drink like a gallon of water a day at least. That's my goal now. That broke my heart that that was one of his last life lashing before his memories was hunk. Blaster arms. That he remembered that. You really get to see the things that Shiro hold dear that make him happy. And all of those are just little little tidbits. Little glimpses into what makes them happy. It's going to miss a space kids. This shot right here. It's really makes me it's so you're at the end of season two they opened up the lion. And she rose gone. And this is. There was a part. I think they might have been a script where he'd like they open the pod and they see Shiro. So they're kind of like marrying those two shots. But this is still just kind of reminds you of that. And then eat noodles. This director is awesome. We had have something to lighten it back up. Again, just that takes you on a ride, man. Yeah. Yeah. Episode. I wasn't gonna persona grit. Episode shows great. Yeah. That's there's not been one of you know, and you thanks to you everybody here. Everyone else. That's here. It's part of this new Jack in the far corner over there. They don't know where we are. They don't know where we are. It's a beautiful voltron. It's a whole auditorium. Thank you guys for talking over that. And thank you all for listening. How can people get a hold of you on social media? If they want to do that, I'm on Twitter at Josh Keaton on Instagram on their space Padre and Josh Keaton's page on Facebook. And you get a semi letter to remarks. Snail mail care of Josh Hamilton. Work. You can find me on Twitter at functional nerd, let me know. If you like the show, this is fun for me to do as much as I'm sure it's fun for everybody to talk over stuff they'd made. And I have nothing to do with it at all. But thank you guys for listening. We'll catch you again on another form podcast. Now leading noticed dot com.
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Le Show For the Week of October 28, 2018
Deepen device choice. Well, this is live from New Orleans. It's been awhile since I could say that like you say, it doesn't mean it's true. You know in this day and age. Hey, what the frac elevated concentrations of strontium that word bring a bell with anybody. Old enough to remember, atomic bombs strontium element associated with oil and gas wastewater is now according to science daily elevated concentrations of that element have accumulated guess where. In the shells of freshwater mussels. Well, you know, downstream from fracking wastewater disposal sites, so disposal. Only in the loosest sense of the word. Apparently, this is a Cording to researchers from Penn State and union college. Freshwater mussels filter water. Why don't you put them in in our kitchen faucets then? And when they grow hard shell shell material record, some of the water quality with time says one of the leaders of the study like tree rings, you can count back the seasons and the years in their shell and get a good idea of the quality and chemical composition of the water. During specific periods of time way back in twenty eleven was discovered that despite treatment water and sediment downstream from fracking, wastewater disposal sites. Still contained fracking chemicals and had become radioactive so disposal in that special way. Intern drinking water was contaminated and aquatic life such as the fresh water muscle was dying so Pennsylvania requested that wastewater treatment plants, not treat and release water from fracking drilling as a result the industry turn to recycling most of its wastewater. I e re injecting it into the earth or it couldn't hurt. Anybody? However, researchers are still covering recovering uncovering the long lasting effect, especially during the three-year, boom. When more than two point nine billion leaders of wastewater were released into Pennsylvania's waterways. Well, that's not a fresh water pollution is a major concern for both ecological and human health says a co author of the study developing ways to retroactively document, this pollution is important to shed light on what's happening in our streams. Hey, what's happening in our streams and twice this week? A new fracking operation in Lancashire Lancashire in. I know that's an American way of saying it Lancashire in Great Britain has shutdown temporarily don't worried because each time it was operating. It was associated with an earthquake. But you know, England has earthquake. Very very smaller. Quakes nobody felt it know only the machines felt it. But they got scared now speaking of fear, his gentleman. It's it's an interesting week. We've been going through here in the United States of America. And I think it's fair to say that when when one calls one's opponents, bad, people and evil. Some messages might land in unsettled brains. Similarly, and I'm not being both Itis here, but just. Just observing. Calling someone guilty of treason without any hard evidence of that fact of that Allah Gatien, my license and other people's unstable brains. But I I I'm wondering if there if there isn't more to the story than what we've been discussing this week. And by we I mean, y'all. This is a country that can turn in a pendular fashion almost on a dime. I mean think about the speed with which we went from somebody possessing joint doing ten hard years in jail that would be under the Reagan ministration to now where in California there are billboards advertising a service that will deliver marijuana to your house. You don't even have to go out. Of course, you could do that when it was illegal to, but they didn't have billboards about and similarly the speed with which Americans attitudes according to polls, and then according to legislation changed on the matter of same sex marriage. So we we, you know, as you know, from my apology the week thing, I'm often derisive about apologies that as some will today include the phrase, some variant in the phrase, this is not who we are. And you're hearing it now, and I'm wondering if this is in a way who we are. We've had a history, I know history America. Loyal and water. We've had a history about three hundred years not just of slavery. But if you read the book slavery by another name of another almost half century of something real close to it followed by the war on drugs, which involve mass incarceration in a totally disproportionate way of young African American males that statistically true. And so, you know, we kind of since the at least the civil rights era been digging ourselves out of a very deep hole. We the United States of America. And that digging. Was recently climax, of course, with the election of the first African-American president. It's almost logical to think that in a country that can be host such to such rapid pendular moves there might have been predictable. A reaction in the opposite direction to the advent of the first African-American president and that the current occupant of the White House. Rode that wave, and of course, was paddling furiously to increase it some amplitude, but if not him. Maybe maybe somebody else. Not a TV star though. I know it's it's it's all frightening. Hello, welcome to the show. And happy Halloween. From New Orleans, Louisiana. Right. Right, right. By the lake. I'm Harry Shearer. Welcome. You to this edition of the show. Now. Let's go to the land of fifteen thousand princes. Remember that whole thing about Jamal kashogi being murdered and the Saudi consulate in Dumbo. Yeah. Seems so long ago doesn't. Well. We are told the the investigations that has got to be either a really really good investigation. Or no investigation at all. Meanwhile, you remember that big conference? It's going to be held in Riyadh. From which a number of leading American CEO's absent themselves in the wake of the murder. Well, guess what? The South China Morning post. Saudi Arab Asian and African leaders investors undeterred by that crisis in allegations of the crown prince's involvement took the place of prominent western CEOs and governor government ministers who had withdrawn participation the conference their withdrawal says the post had more to do with optics. Then with making a statement that would hit home, for example, despite canceling his participation in the conference US Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin popped up in Riyadh. Why a day before the conference to discuss ways to combat terrorism financing with prince Mohammed? Let's Audi Arabia have to do with terrorism. Oh, some western CEO's travelled to Riyadh to linger in the conference corridors even if they did not want to be seen in the hall. Meanwhile, beyond the line light. The post reports business continued as usual Saudi media reported the twenty-five member Dems, remember Randa, I would say of understanding worth more than fifty billion dollars have been signed on the conference's first day, and the oil gas industries and infrastructure sectors, sectors firms such as total total Hundai Schrimm, Bradley, Jay Halliburton Halliburton, and some others prince Muhammed is likely to conclude from the conference that despite his tarnished image much of the world, including those who didn't want to be seen within publicly is keen to continue doing business with. Well. It's business as been minute. And. Case you missed it. Hundreds of people who work at a so-called troll farm. What do you fertilize that with in Riyadh to smother? The voices of dissidents in Saudi Arabia. The push appears to glue, the grooming. Previously reported Saudi employees at a Twitter from western intelligence officials suspected of spying on user accounts. Just out the Saudi leadership. This is from the New York Times Saudi operatives have mobilized who Harris critics on Twitter while they popular platform for news in the kingdom since the Arab spring. The Saudis had hoped Twitter would democratize discourse. But Saudi Arabia has instead become an illustration of how tearing government's committed played social media to silence or drought critical voices. Before his death kashogi was launching project combat online at Beauce and to try to reveal the crowns crown prince Mohammed was mismanaging the country. You can't do that. That's bad for business. One arm and the crackdown on dissidents origination. Offices and homes in and around Riyadh. Hundreds of young men. There hunt on Twitter for voices and conversations to silence. That's the troll farm. It's directors routinely discussed ways to combat descent settling on sensitive themes, like the war in Yemen. Yeah. That's a really nice war or women's rights, then turn to their well organized army of social media specialists group chats and what's app and telegram, sending them lists of people to threaten insult and intimidate daily tweet quotas to fill. Hey, who doesn't have that? And pro government messages to augment. The trophy arms described by three people briefed on the project and the messages. So nobody's actually involved talk to the times. The bosses also send memes that their employees can use to mock dissenters. Specialist. Scour Twitter for conversations on the assign topics and post messages from the several counts each run. Sometimes when contentious discussions take off, they publish pornographic images to goose engagement. If you're engaged to a ghost really don't belong on Twitter. I'm just going to say, Jack. Hey at Jack get the goose engages off with their own posts and distract users for more relevant conversations. If one account is blocked by too many other users they simply close at open a new one. Sounds like what the Russian. Oh. But no the Russians are. But these are. The freedom loving. Friends in Saudi Arabia, ladies and gentlemen. And that brings us to the very next thing on the agenda in today's program little thing. I like to call news the godly. Does the phrase orphanage mass graves or mass grave? Strike you as odd the bit inappropriate a bit quixotic. Ireland's government has just approved a forensic exempt excavation, pardon me of a Catholic run orphanage where a mass grave containing the remains of hundreds of children was discovered children's minister announced the excavation and recovery remains they'll be respectful Barrio will possible. This follows a report from judge lead commission that confirmed last year that the former bowl secure mother and baby home in county. Galway had an underground sewage. Structured of divided into twenty chambers containing quote, significant quantities of human remains unquote, church-run homes in Ireland house orphans unmarried pregnant women and their babies for most of the twentieth century. That was a good century. Wasn't. It students have been subject to intense public scrutiny into local historian for years ago track down death certificates for nearly eight hundred children who died as residents of the facility but could find a burial record for only one investigator. Later found a mass grave containing remains of babies and young children. From the grounds of the home which closed in nineteen sixty one the mass grave scandal was raised with pope Francis. When he visited Ireland couple months ago, he called it a shameful chapter. No sorry. The. The children's minister called it a shameful chapter of recent Irish history. The pope urged the Irish church to make reparations homes survivors for its role reparations interesting. Use the godly followed immediately by news warms. Listen to. Yeah. But why would we? Apprised Caterpillar fungus that is more valuable than gold is nicknamed Himalayan Viagra. It's seen as a wonder drug in Asia, but it's becoming harder to find through the climate change. According to researchers people in China and the Powell have been killed in clashes over the years over the elusive fungus Yorkshire Gumbo. Gumbo. You hear that yelled at football games. Don't you? Although it has no scientifically proven benefits. People who boil. Yup. Goumba in water to make tea or attitude soups, stews believe it cures everything from impotence to cancer. Maybe it's the soup. It's one of the world's most valuable biological commodities. Fighting crucial source of income for hundreds of thousands of collectors said the report and the proceedings of the National Academy of sciences peer reviewed US journal in recent decades, the fungus has skyrocketed in popularity while many have suspected overharvesting was the reason for its current scarcity. Researchers interviewed about four dozen harvesters collectors and traders examined previously published scientific literature weather patterns, geographic factors and environmental conditions were also analyzed using data. Spanning nearly two decades and four countries we're field. The Caterpillar fungus production is declining throughout much of its range. Finding is important because it calls attention to how highly valuable species are susceptible not only to overharvesting, but also to climate change says the lead author of. The study this means that even people start reducing the amount they harvest production will likely to continue to dwindle as a result of ongoing climate changes. Researchers were though unable to tell which factor overharvesting or climate change had a larger impact on the fungus. But sciences, it doesn't work. Shelled marine creatures living increasingly acidified oceans face a fight for survival as the impact of climate change spread corny new new study. Researchers from the university of Sakaba in Japan in the university of Plymouth in Britain, assess the impact of rising carbon dioxide levels on the large predatory TRITON shell gastro pon. I love having. A fine meal and a pint at a gastro pod they found those living in regions with predicted future levels of CO two were on average around a third smaller these catra pas than counterparts living in condition seen throughout the world today. There was enough also unnoticeable negative impact on the thickness density and structure of their cells causing visible deterioration to the shell surface. Scientists writing frontiers marine science say the effects are down to the increased stresses placed on the species in waters, where the peaches lower you see that's where they can sort of replicate what the rest of the oceans are gonna look like soon that reduces their ability to control the calcification process. I can't control it. So I don't even know how they do it. And they've warned other shellfish. No, they haven't warned other shellfish. They have warned that other shellfish nice riding are likely to be impacted in the same way threatening their survival and that of other species that rely on them for food. Thank god. We don't each the United Nations. Climate report had stunning revelations. Some say it's authors we're being too cautious. Number of scientists contend the report wasn't strong enough. And that it downplayed the full extent of the real threat. You remember how dire it sounded? When it was released in the beginning of this month. They say it doesn't account for all the warming that has already occurred downplays the economic costs of severe storms displacement of people through drought and deadly heatwaves. We're closer to the one point five centigrade celsius in two point oh celsius thresholds, and they indicate and are available carbon budget for voting. These thresholds is considerably smaller than they implies as Michael man. He's a professor of atmospheric science, director of earth system science center at Penn State, you know, the place with the football coach Paterno place. In other words, they paid an overly rosy scenario by ignoring some relevant literature. I almost went Tom Brokaw. Insect around the world or a crisis. According to a small, but growing number of long-term study showing dramatic declines in invertebrate populations grow backbone report suggests the problem is more widespread than scientists realized report proceedings. The National Academy of sciences all shows the startling loss of insect abundance extends to the Americas. The site the authors implicate climate change in the loss of tropical invertebrates. It's a wheel real wakeup, call a clarion call at the phenomenon could be much much bigger and across many more ecosystems an expert in invertebrate conservation. I personally, I think there are too many. It's ex. But that's just me. He was not involved with this research. He added this is one of the most disturbing articles. I have ever read. Energy-sector carbon emissions will rise this year after hitting record levels last year dimming prospects for meeting the Paris treaty goals Cording to the International Energy Agency. The energy sector accounts for eighty percent of global CO two emissions the rest caused by deforestation and agriculture so its performance is key. I'm sorry. I have very bad news for you says the executive director of the I E eight to guess at a diplomatic function hosted by the polish embassy in Paris and bad us wasn't that they were at the polish emissions. This year will increase once again, we're going to have. A meeting when global emissions reach a record high. They remained flat for three years total global CO two emissions did. But they rose by one point four percent last year, dashing hopes that they had Pete. What good are hopes if they can't be dashed as winter in New England seems to get warmer fall lingers longer and spring comes into bloom earlier areas like northern New Hampshire and western Maine are seeing an unusual continued increase in winter ticks. Well, there your insects right there, which are endangering the moose population. Researchers at the university of New Hampshire found the well of infestations of the parasite which is tach itself to moose during the fall and feeds throughout the winter is the primary cause of an unprecedented. Seventy percent death rate of Cav's over a three year period. The iconic moose is rapidly becoming the new poster child for climate change in parts of the northeast says Pete. Pecans? Maybe they mean Perkins a professor of wildlife ecology this from phys dot org. Normally anything over fifty percent death rate would concern us at seventy percent. We're looking at a real problem in the moose population. The study was published in the Canadian Canadian journal of zoology. Most adult moose did survive the investigation of ticks, but we're severely compromised. They were thin and anemic from losing so much blood the ticks appear to be harming reproductive-health. So there's also less breeding so less fun for most. The researchers say winter tick, epidemics, typically go for one or two years, but five of the last ten has shown rare frequency of tick infestations, which reflects the influence of climate change us, warm, ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen copyright of feature. This broadcast. From New Orleans this is Lewis show. And ladies and gentlemen, I it is it's a smart world and doggonit it's getting smarter every day. That's maybe. Maybe what we want or apples self-styled computational photography. There's a new phrase computational photography. This is an approach that involves the software doctoring the photos, you take in ways that are not transparent to you and the may not produce effect. You want side from that. Mrs Lincoln, this is from ours Technica that issue is at the heart of minor minor scandal involving the phone's launch the new iphone X S who that so much better than the ex- ex- s excess. I get it nothing exceeds like excess the scandal. That's some dubbed. Of course, inevitably beauty gate users who tech self as with the front facing camera found that the resulting images looked a little bit over skin. Was unrealistically smoothed with blemishes and details missing similar to what you'd see with beauty filter. Who doesn't use one of those some users took I guess everybody. That's not on Instagram some user took the forms to speculate that apple did this deliberately because these kinds of filters are popular in one of its largest markets. No. China and social measures messaging, apps like Snapchat. However, apple told the verge to website that the behavior is in fact, the bug and fixes coming in the next operating system. Cameras screwed up until the next operating system. Are you? Okay. Okeydokey with that. The issue is reportedly related to these smart HDR feature in the iphone which shoot a buffer four frames for every photo along with inter frames at different exposures. This is done in part to reduce shutter lag. But it also presents the phone's software and hardware with the opportunity to quickly analyze and compare every frame to make smart decisions about which frame to us which things to highlight. And so on according to apple smart HDR with sometimes choose a frame with a long shutter speed which led images in which fine-details we're lost. The problem was exacerbated by the fact that the front facing camera does not have optical image. Stabilization, you know to get rid of your hand jitter. The company says the new operating system will be bring about a fix. It is meant to make the phone use frames that show. Oh, more detail. Instead. They they're not saying when it's gonna come out such don't just just don't use your camera until that. Okay. Apple is the only company to employ these sorts of methods for touching up photos behind the scenes using powerful image processors and machine learning is a trend in today's phones for a reason it's an extremely promising way to make up for the limitations inherent in phone camera optics. It does have the downside says ours Technica of taking some control away from the user, you didn't want that control. Did you really now? It's really control. It control is over rated come on to smart world. You don't need. And now, it's gem. Kind of lost. Understandably, not not only the Saudi thing. But also lost in the horrific news this week the bombings in the shootings the stuff as president. President Trump prefer them in a tweet that was Twitter. Trump not. Teleprompter, Trump but lost. I say is another New York Times is having trouble leading the the news agenda like it used to used to be you turn on the TV news. And the late story was was the basically grew out the lead story in that morning. New York time that was just a a known fact that New York Times led the agenda now in the last three weeks two major pieces by the times one that they thought so highly of they printed it twice because it didn't get enough traction the first time about Trump's history of tax avoidance or evasion or fraud, and this one have generated virtually no traction at all of this piece was about. How American intelligence agencies have figured out that China and Russia are eavesdropping on the calls that Trump makes from his iphone? This is him. Disregarding the advice of his security experts to not use iphones. Because of their lack of security presidents continue to use a cellphone despite those warnings. China's now believed said the times to be using what it's learning from the calls how he thinks what arguments tend to sway him in homeys inclined to listen to to try to influence the president and avoid a further escalation of a trade war. He jumped on the news. He he at least reacted. He jumped in news writing on Twitter, the so-called experts on Trump at the time had written a boring article. It was so riddled with errors. I do. Not have the time here to correct, it didn't expect that reaction. But that's okay. He added. I only used government phones have only ones one seldom used government. Cellphone story is so wrong. Yet. This times quotes as it sources. People friends of Trump and some administration officials who are concerned about the possible. Security threat. He did acknowledge that he used a cell phone to make calls. I rarely use a cell phone. And when I do it's government authorized, he says. According to the times report, it is the use of any cell phone government issued or not that's the problem the vulnerability exploited by China and Russia have nothing to do with his actual devices their intercepted as they traveled through the cell towers, cables, and switches, the make up the national international cellphone networks said the officials. You know? There's no proof yet that. Those calls are being intercepted. Except I think one has been. Donald Mr President you calling from your landline? I'm not a baby my iphone? Office. I'm always glad to hear from you Suresh, just lying. Lying. People white sheet white paper is something the white list. Yeah. I do that. I'm a frigging. Anyway. Well, I was. Board meeting but hold on gase. Gase dole board. I'll be five minutes late. What do you think you'll get rid of me? Gase tenant. Okay, sir. All ears. You've been looking that. Right light. Maybe not. Bombing shooting stuff right here. My speeches. I wish nice. Nice. Okay. Okay. Extremely presidential, sir. All right now can't do just presidential enough. We got like she'd come easy. I'm on the ballot right now. It's very concise way of brief. It's all right. Watch it. Right. It's it's a very fine line. You have to walk there. I agree. Time because I got like twin message, I've given you everything. Very very happy to be very scared because the Democrats. Camera Vanna gonna take it all away. It's spent be happy be scared at the same time. It's like having a birthday on Halloween. But may personally, I think you struck the right balance. Of course, the midday to get Listrik the media is gonna come after you. Them. Then they'll blame me for that. Thint thing. I mean, Tom. Put together three different deals at the same time. Brizard sees the biggest burden in the World Service or the price of being the most famous person in the world at away. My chief Gina back from Turkey rights cheese. Hurry the tape. She seen Bibi picture me. She hasn't seen anything so horrible censure used to supervisor warn aboard. But you know, it's not really women's work. Anyway, right. Now, my Turkish friend, Mr. Eric, I call him kanobi even get the joke. Chuckle. He's pushing me the heavy up on the Saudis to do a real number on them. And Jim Mattis lapdog. Name was mad. I general who doesn't like me hating real estate which way I do. If we need this out as Kudlow is saying that we need. And Jared anybody, but I call him baby. Jared ace begging me, not to blow up this Mideast thing. Which to me is about to be the biggest flop since anew. Rosie o'donald talk show, sir. I'm not sure that you're supposed to be. Guessing CIA matters with me over I love you like a brother. A brother, but I'm not getting into a little skiff with you believe me tinier, though, the apartments. Will but the security people Chinese not to mention the Russia. Are you listen, Tom? Nobody knows more about the points of keeping secrets to do. It will stormy. Little picture, Michael, you know, people keep saying fiction. I kind of. He was my little Pichit like Mike, go get me a diet coke. Get the points even crappy getting me a diet coke. Couldn't find change Luger. But tom. Or the Russians if they know any more about my taxes. Okay. We'll if you're asking me what I think you should do about the Saudi people for that. I was asking how I was doing on the bomb stuff in the shooting stuff and killing. I'm Amanda, right? Sorry. I got distracted. What do you think? Getting the momentum back yet cramp. We should wait. A couple of weeks to relief phony DNA will is you know, better than almost anybody. Timing isn't always something you can control especially somebody else's time. David Letterman face during a commercial break do but they won't say so. Gotta do. Gase signaling may about joining the board meeting. Okay. Well, don't let the problems. Frigging United States delay from the big deal. But that's why never went public. Okay. Thanks a lot. I'm I'm very glad, sir. It didn't help on Bye-bye. And now that is gentlemen, the apologies of the week. So some. Fox News when do apology mode this week after an earlier broadcast show, two photos of California Senator come harassed during a news alert about registered sex offender who is believed to have killed a student at the university of Utah, FOX aired a segment showing footage of police students on the college campus in its report before showing images of Harris. Fox Jillian meal. Malay apologized on air for the mistake. We showed you the wrong video. We showed you pictures of Senator camera Harrison said of the mugshot of the. Purple polish is for that. Man who subjected fellow passenger on a Ryanair discount European airline flight to a racist? Tirade is apologize publicly for the first time a week after the incident claiming he's not a racist and lost his temper a bit. Desi Gail the woman who David measure called quote, an ugly black bastard unquote, set his apology was insufficient. And it would take a long time for her to move on for the measure made his apology for his behavior, which has since gone viral and video in an interview aired. Later in the week. Air issued a statement saying it was only aware of the footage day after the incident. I'm not a racist person by any means in just a fit of temper that time I think podge is for all the distress. You've had and since. Said. David measure. Trying to get out of his own mesh. Emotional speech delivered before the parliament and before hundreds of survivors. Australian Prime minister said today is a nation we confront our failure to listen to believe to provide Justice we say sorry. This is a result of for. You. Your inquest revealing shocking evidence more than seventeen thousand survivors allegations against government, church and private institutions prominent individuals. Involved in child, sex abuse cases. The prime minister said it was time for us to confront key questions. Why weren't the children of our nation loved nurtured protected? Why was there trust betrayed? Why did those who know it up? Why would the cries children and parents ignored? Why didn't we believe he said nothing could be wrong to nothing could be done to right? The wrongs inflicted on children. Day. We gather in this chamber. Humidity lawmakers minute's silence following the apology anything get lawmakers silent for a minute. Dateline? Raleigh North Carolina. Wake County mother says the boy who beat her son in gym classes, polish is better desired. Bring change to how the different deals with violence in school is over actually Williams marbles that our sixteen year old son would. Is recovering after undergoing surgery nose was broken in five places after was beaten up at Wakefield high school last week. Four other high schools the other four place. No, not really the surgery went. Well, when he was marble said it's still unclear when he'll return to school. He's having some big side effects from the concussion the boy responsible for the assault. Senate note saying I'm apologizing for my actions, my actions were not acceptable. And I should have made better choices. I hope you can forgive me for my bad choices. I understand you're not happy at this moment. I do feel guilt for what I did. I did not realize my own strengthen as a result. I heard someone who did not deserve it as I said before. I hope you're gonna accept my apology while the best I can to fix this situation. That message was forwarded from the boy by the principal of the school in the. The internet's answer to a real life. Snow White Kelvin Pena who goes by the name, brother nature as become a media celebrity widely shared wildlife videos. But like many other viral figures of this year has pre fame internet activities come back to haunt him racist sexist, and and I submitted tweets from his account resurfaced last weekend. He's of Dominican and Puerto Rican descent posted a slew of anti black sentiments. And as well as Heil Hitler, and I'm Hitler. Everyone's effing Nazi as a teenager. Reappeared idolize singer, Chris Brown and express some serious disdain for women. He since made his Twitter account private and issue an apology for behavior saying that his younger self was quote, impressionable and seeking attention. I'm sorry to all the people that I have let down I apologize for twelve year old Kelvin and take total responsibility. For my words. Everyone changes everyone learns everyone makes mistakes he's evolved as human being. He says. I was a child, and I'm now a man. What does this bar mitzvah? Now some apologies from media. The to'real cartoon we ran on October eighteenth attracted a lot of criticism. This is from the Fort Worth Star-Telegram while we want the papers aditorial patients, showcase opinions from divergent points of view. We also strive to maintain a high level of respect and quality of thought that cartoon did not fulfil that aspirated. I take full apology. And apologize for the decision to publish it. What was the cartoon it presented a satirical field guide to liberals it mocks? How Senator Warren former NAACP activist, Rachel dollas all trans gender woman. Choose to identify and cartoon in the Rochester business journal should never have been published says, the editor we take full responsibility and apologize for our mistake. It does not reflect the views of this publication or its staff. We apologize for fending our readers. We're listening and learning for our mistakes. I don't know what that cartoon was Sarah. Silverman is apologize to comedian Rebecca Correy to very funny. Women one Sarah Rebecca was one of the women who last year was reported to have accused Louis CK of asking to masturbate in front of them. Silverman. Apologize for comments you made on Howard Stern show that seemed to defend Louis. She said he'd made the same request of her when they were younger, but she added that unlike the women who came forward with similar claims last year. She was not always disgusted. Corey repeated he took away a day. I work years for it. Still has no remorse predator who victimized women for decades. And lied about it silly responded, Rebecca, I'm sorry. This is why I don't like weighing in. I'm sorry friend. You're so talented, and so kind. They line Thornton. Colorado school district has apologized to parents after hosting a drag Queen as part of a career day. It's really all you need to know about that the bomb has got a suspect threatening people on Twitter Twitter missed it Twitter. You shoulda statement Friday night. We made a mistake by not removing the threat where deeply sorry for that error. And mountain equipment. Co off the Vancouver British Columbia based outdoor retailing giant apologize. This week for using predominantly white models to sell its stuff in open letter CEO David labs door admitted the company rarely included people of color in its ads and catalogs perpetuating. The idea that the outdoors are for white people only. Outside is for everyone. He said it's time we acted like it. The imagery has perpetuated the vastly incorrect notion that people of color in Canada don't ski hike climb or camp is apologize coupled with the unveiling of new initiative bent on changing the way we represent the outdoor community the apologies of the week late in gentlemen, copyrighted feature. This broadcast. Well, you can tell the program originates live this week because the record wild up. Ladies and gentlemen, that with with a while is going to conclude. 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This is your opportunity to tell us what you like and tell us what you don't like it should take about fifteen minutes to complete. Just visit slate dot com slash podcast survey to participate. We really appreciate the feedback. This is pretty sixty. I'm currently at I'm sitting on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. I level of guard. This Thomas Jefferson's vegetable I like to have the roasted chicken voiced, very well done editing is all about timing. I tried to get a little bit away from the actual subject. Must get sick of your voice, right? Three sixty with good Anderson. If I've managed to take the reader out of their existing head space into another world into another person's life, and then return them safely home. Then I've done my job. Then K Jemison is an extremely talented storyteller. My job is to entertain my job is to transport her bestselling fantasy series the broken earth. Trilogy won the last three Hugo awards for best novel three in a row, which was unprecedented. Now, she's got a new collection of short fiction called how long tell black future month. And here she is reading from one of the stories in that new book. Took you sat on the porch of his shotgun house watching the rainfall sideways, a lizard strolled by on the warn dirt strip that past for a sidewalk, easy as you. Please is if there wasn't an inch of water already collected around its pause it noticed him and stopped. Hey, it said inclining its head to him in a neighborly fashion. Sup took you replied, jerking chin up in return, you going stay put it asked still. I'm coming. Yeah. Said Turkey, I got food from the grocery. Ingo need no food. If you drown man took shroud. The lizard sat down on the sidewalk oblivious to the driving wind and join cookie in watching the rainfall. Took you idly reflected that the lizard might be an alligator in which case, he should maybe go get his gun. He decided against it though because the creature had wide bat like wings, and he was fairly certain Gators. Didn't have those these wings were the color of rusty jaundice, clouds like those he'd seen approaching from the southeast just before the rain began. Levy gome break said lizard after a while you should've got out, man. That's n que Jemison reading from her story centers saints dragons and Hanes in the city under the still waters. This book of stories has a fantastic title, which is how long till black future now which made me laugh laugh out loud. When I first read of it. Which was a title of s. Yeah. So it was basically talking about the fact that you know, when I was growing up by used to watch shows like the Jetsons, which just seemed like really optimistic kind of fun kitty stories about, you know, family in the future flying around in flying cars to get to to work with a robot. And how at a certain point in mind development is, you know, kind of more conscious human being it suddenly occurred to me that there was nobody black in the Jetsons world. And that they all lived in these these floating habitats above the clouds what's going on beneath the clouds is that where all the black people still are where they left behind by the Jetsons as they go off to their beautiful, shiny future. And and what's going on with those people are the okay, you know, so these are the kinds of things started to hit me it occurred to me that is African Americans. We've done. Lots of processing over history as we should as we must because we've gotten so many false bits of history thrown at us so many ways for oppressive systems to justify their oppression of us. It's necessary that we understand where we came from. It's also necessary that we start thinking about where we're going, and we need to look at the ways in which science fiction renders us or doesn't render us or leaves. Unspoken, apocalypse is all over the place in which we something clearly happened to us. But no one mentions it, you know. So I I feel like it's a good idea to engage with that too. And that's where it came from. You. Are it professionals psychologists earn your living as a counselor and a psychologist? I can imagine that that disciplined would and does inform your fiction. It does. You know? I I spent twenty years as a counselor working with young adults late adolescence and just kind of helping them work through issues. And and, you know, my understanding of how people develop into from from young people into adults how people cope with problems. You know, I did a lot of work at one point with adults in transition. I e people having midlife crises, so, you know, there are developmental patterns to be recognized, and there's a standard set of stuff that people go through when they're going through these kinds of life changes. There's a change process. There's changed theory. And as you understand these things, and you apply it known only to the people who are who as a counselor that you're you're encountering but to fiction characters and stories. Yeah. You know, one of the things that happens in the Brooklyn earth saga is that the protagonist goes through an identity development. She becomes a revolutionary over the course of the story. And this is one of the things that is part of the stages of of racial identity development for black Amax. Ericans? And it's a thing. That doesn't always happen doesn't always happen the same way. But it does there are patterns. And so, you know, if I'm depicting a character going through this. Of course, I'm going to try and make sure that she's adhering to that pattern in some rigging behavioral science fiction. Sure, I'll take it. But but you're only forty six you didn't start publishing until your thirties. So what made you decide like, okay? I'm gonna go for it. A combination of financial desperation. Because such big money. Extra a little extra side hustle. I wasn't expecting big money. But I I had student loan debt. So, you know, I had to do whatever I could do to scrape together enough to get out of debt sometime before ninety and yeah, I thing I did with my first I advance check I paid off my student loans. So that was the idea was that if I could make enough money to kind of cover some bills than I would I would be out of debt lake slightly less time. So that was the idea, and I started publishing also partly because I'd read a bunch of terrible novels and terrible short stories, and it was like I can do better than this. You know, I didn't think that I had much of a chance of getting published in this field where it didn't seem like it kind of felt like science fiction fantasy had a really limited space for black writers at the time that I first started there were really only four and that was Avia Butler chip Delany Tenerife do. Well, no. Oh, people never mentioned her. But her husband's Steven Barnes and a nila Hopkinson. Right. You know, if you're a black woman writing with primarily black characters or any black characters the first person you're going to get compared to his tibia Butler. And if you're not doing exactly what activity about their does. Then you have a hard time kind of trying to convince people that this is what you're doing is valuable or commercial? Yeah. Yeah. Exactly speculative fiction has a lot of stretching still to do. It is in recent years becoming a bigger tent that can incapacity many kinds of people many mythologies, many futures and so forth. And that is a thing that I think is a positive change. But it's a change that of course, is coming with some growing pains some pushback, and all that you how what's an example of of what it didn't used to be able to accommodate. Well, I mean in my sub-field fantasy it's easy to find you can find dozens thousands of medieval European flavored fantasies. If you wanna find out some some alternate world version of England or Norway or something you can find the thrones. Exactly. That's a good example. You know, the the war of the roses plus dragons, but we've got hundreds thousands of cultures in the world and thousands of different kinds of mythologies among thousands of different kinds of of alternate histories that we could explore. Why aren't we doing that? And only recently has it become more more possible for writers to breach the fantasy field with something other than medieval Europe, a lot of your work is explicitly political. And it strikes me the science fiction and fantasy are John RAs that are more comfortably able to accommodate explicit political ideas than a lot of other fictional genres. Are they I think so because here you are you're imagining a different world than doesn't exist which therefore gives you licensed to to implicitly not explicitly talk about the. The way this world exists in ways, it doesn't need to or oughtn't to. Yeah. What you're talking about is is the world building in the fact that every choice that world building involves is in some ways of critique of the way that our world actually exists. You know, I think that literary fiction does this as well though. Sometimes you know, it depends on what flavor of litter fiction. You're talking about I've read lots of Tony Morrison. Lots of people who have engaged with political stuff. If you are a marginalized writer coming from anything other than a privileged, you know, sort of ethnic group or gender or whatever than inherently whatever you're writing about is going to be political because our existence tends to be politicized. But that said, you know in science fiction and fantasy you can explore beyond your own identity with that or you can explore beyond, you know. Oh, the obvious politics. I guess with that. Right. Well, and and and and readers come to thinking. Okay. This isn't going to be reality. So I'll accept this twist here. This Turner this different protocol in a way. Yeah. There's always a point where the they start to resist. It's it's fascinating to see what politics people are perfectly comfortable with by running them through fantasy. You know, the I mentioned before that whole tendency of fantasy to center on medieval Europe. Well, you know, there's a whole lot of politics involved in that you've got stories that or you you tend to see a lot of stories about the monarchy and how awesome the minor hierarchies. Really legit hierarchies taken for granted. Yeah. Yeah. Feudalism it's sort of weird to see all these American writers fetish housing feudalism. I don't know where that comes from. But there's a political meaning to that. But they don't necessarily think so they think that it's, you know, harmless romanticism nation, and I don't know how harmless it is. But you know, still some political meaning to it. And when you start to challenge that is when they get resistant, and that's when you start to understand that, you know, these are politics. Ix? But those are the politics that they're not they're not comfortable with what a pleasure talking to you. Thank you so much. Thank you and well deserve. Congratulations on all your successes. Thank you so much. N k Jefferson's new book is called how long till black future month, and it is out now. Coming up next. Robert Johnson's crossroad blues. Our latest American icon that's next after this commercial break. We are co writers co-directors married, so cozinne everything in life. We're talking to Samantha buck and Marie Schliemann about their new film sister, Amy, which is premiering at the twenty nineteen Sundance film festival. It's in nineteen twenty six when this famous evangelist can no longer perform she could no longer heal. And she's looking for a way to escape the inspiration is a real character sister. Amy, simple McPherson who did indeed in nineteen twenty six disappear for a while. We thought it would be interesting to take these big John RAs that felt relevant to her and the time and kind of mash them together, we have a little bit of western. We have a lot of screwball comedy their musical elements. We wanted everybody to communicate and everybody to be on the same page for very practical reasons. But also for creative reasons dropbox was. Pretty essential in terms of all of our departments being able to communicate with each other. Our costume designer wanted to know exactly what the sets were looking like our choreographer tied to be able to understand what the space the sets were looking at. We've really tried to start that communication process super super early on. Everyone was able to see in real time. How those things were shifting, and they all kind of influenced each other learn more about how your team can use dropbox to bring great ideas to life at dropbox dot com slash flow. Doodoo threes sixteen. A man with a guitar standing where two roads in the south cross talking to God. Or was it the devil? In nineteen thirty six the blues. Guitarist Robert Johnson recorded this song crossroad blues. Johnson died two years after that at age twenty seven during his lifetime. He recorded only twenty nine songs and those sold a few thousand copies, but in the nineteen sixties as rock and roll found. It's blues roots. He was finally discovered big time. But was so little known that the record company, then couldn't even find a photo for an album cover. He blew up as Rockstars recorded. His songs, I I heard Robert Johnson music on this cover by cream. In this new installment of studio three sixties American icons to sell reggae tau. Takes a look at Robert Johnson's crossroad blues. And her story starts in Johnson's home state Mississippi. Courthouse. I told you play I zone went on the courthouse steps. Robert Johnson was born here. Hazo her Mississippi, a nineteen eleven it's a little town almost forty miles south from Jackson with a population of four thousand people I'm with to a proper Johnson's grandsons. This is Steven Johnson. See some. At eighty played on. Courthouses from nineteen to proper Johnson was just nineteen years old when he was jamming on the steps of the courthouse with his mentor pitcher, Rob Johnson is Zimmerman just playing plan different leaks. You know, call colony Judd out and people just getting around and listen, this is my first time in Mississippi. I'm surprised to see the confederate flag flying in front of the courthouse. Stephen's younger brother, Michael says, he wishes the state didn't display them in every public building. Need to take it down says, represent you know, things that wasn't pleasing. Today is of. People. This Mississippi is of of the African-American hairs three quarters of the population of hazo. Hearst is African American in about one in four people here live below the poverty line. I asked Michael and Stephen do you think your grandfather was talking about himself or about the people of Mississippi in crossroad blues? Are you talking about a woman is in council or pay some warm? He was at a crossroad in his life or decision had to be made a sow Goudie saw evil, and he been around e with more so than what is bringing him in painting with the light. So he's asking God for mercy to say if people. Stephen and Michael never met their grandad. He died in nineteen thirty eight. Actually, they didn't even know he was famous until they were teenagers but back to the meaning of crossroad blues. The only way to really kind of understand what Robert Johnson songs are about. Is you have to put them in the context, first of his culture, and what he was doing the history of the community. Delta life, barely Pearson is an English professor at the university of Maryland. His the co author of the book Robert Johnson lost and found published in two thousand and three Robert Johnson's a walk and musician. He's hitchhiking from place to place the song itself takes off from that. It starts out with this. You know, being stuck at the crossroads next verse. I'm standing at the crossroads trying to flag a ride. Nobody seems to know me everybody seems to pass me by. Okay. We we have him in this bad situation. We don't know where he's going where he's coming from. Robert Johnson asks for help from three directions praying to God to help them. And then the second one is calling on his friend actually telling his woman is Robert Johnson songs are always directed to a woman. He tells his woman to go find his friend Willie Brown and tell them that Robert Johnson's got the crossroad blues this morning, and he believes he's thinking down crossroad blues. Ultimately about a moment of crisis, something we can all relate to says Anastazia soccer's. She's a reporter for NPR and a music critic, it is a great song because on a purely visceral level you can connect to it. And he's talking about a very specific set of circumstances. Right. Being this black man, and at this crossroads, you can feel the immediacy of it and you can connect to. To it. And you can appreciate his playing. But as a song itself, I think it stands as the test of time, absolutely scholar. Barely Pearson says Robert Johnson actually recorded two versions of crossroad blues in one he talks about the sun rising and sinking down Johnson thought it over and did the second take making it essentially nighttime, and that helps fuel the image that we see in all the films, and such a Robert Johnson going to a crossroads at night. Never get that law. So if you can't make the training. Take ten years. Well, maybe I'll just have to do what you did. Really? I'll go down to the crossroads Australia deal with the devil will take care of the whole. Say that again, that's a scene from the nineteen eighty six movie, crossroads it was inspired by the life of Robert Johnson, and it helped popularize the myth of the pact with the devil. There are few theories about where that story actually comes from. But most historians believe on their musicians who were jealous of Johnson's talent created the rumor also the blues was known as the devil's music. It was not in a church was at a place where liquor is being sold. Kevin fillets is an assistant professor of music and African American studies at Columbia University. Seen right? Cross gender Janson is occurring and all sorts of things are probably going on right in these juke joints. So the people that would go to those giants in this out, the blues patients themselves thought of it as sinful music. No matter how it started the pact with the devil is a great story, and it sticks. It's still repeated even among young blues musicians like Chamisa Copeland. If you're a blues artists you're going to hear that song. We'll blues fan you're gonna hear that song. And I do remember, and I thought, wow, you know, what is this about? She was about twelve years old when her dead played the song for her. I remember him saying, you know, you can't be making no deals with the devil. I don't care what kind of shape you. And you don't make no deals with the devil. And I know that we're grateful that we had Robert Johnson because he definitely birth. The whole new generation of great artists, you know, maybe because he did make a deal with the devil. I dunno beyond it devil myth. What makes Robert Johnson? So iconic for Bruce comfort co author of an upcoming biography called up jumped the devil the real life with Robert Johnson. One of the reasons is his personality Robert was a very complex person. He was somebody who was always looking for himself. I believe he's. Spent most of his lifetime trying to find out who he was. He was a loner. He had a habit of not making close friends. He didn't ever really want to talk about himself or his family. He would just get up and go and not even say goodbye comfort says it all started in his childhood as we know Johnson was born in this mall town of Hazel Hearst. But his mother was troubling to raise her kids. So when his two years old, she leaves him with his stepfather in Memphis, his formative years from two through roughly eight or nine he spent growing up in a very urban environment. And so he basically was an urban child and this shaped his entire life. This shaped everything that he did it shaped his education it shaped his identity shaped, his musical preferences. Is it really had a profound effect on him? But when he's ten his mother comes back and takes him to leave with her in a cotton plantation in Mississippi. This was in the nineteen twenties. When most blacks were struggling with poverty in racial violence in the south. The move was hard for Johnson. He was a syndicate in his grandson, Steven Johnson says working on plantation was the last thing he wanted to do. Labor's on plantations in certain things in and the blues were their way out you had to blues in your head to gospel. They we the saying one audio into feels. So you know, I it will it will. It is song. Blue toll a way of life. Robert Johnson also started playing instruments at a young age as a child he nailed strings on the side of his house to create a little guitar when he was seventeen he was already semi professional playing at parties. That's when he got married to Virginia Travis who is believed to be just fourteen years old then but a couple years later tragedy struck again for Gina in the child. She was expecting died when she was in labor. Johnson was devastated. He was lost. He decided to go back to his hometown of hazo Hearst trying to look for his father. He didn't find him. But it wasn't a juke joint there that he met his mentor another African American blues performer called I see Zimmerman was one of the best guitarists in all of southern Mississippi. And so taught Robert everything that he knew and together, they would you know, they would go different places. I quit take him on jobs that he was playing he would take him to juke joints. He would take him to picnics and fish fries, and he would take him to play in lumber camps. And so I really helped Robert hone his whole professional persona and his musical style. Robert Johnson's Technic was mind blowing. It's not something that other great guitarists like Grammy award winning. John Leventhal can easily replicate. So he has a slide on one finger which in his case was probably what is for to his bottleneck, which is a piece of smooth class. Probably taken from the top of a bottle. So it's a very expressive way to play the guitar, and it has a kind of element of human voice. Right. So it's. Which is a different then. With my fingers, right? During crossroad blues and a lot of these songs. He's kind of playing up. He's playing a rhythm. I can't I can't really even do it so sophisticated but he's playing that with the slide up high. But he's keeping the rhythm going on the bottom strings with his thumb more than likely. It's as if Robert Johnson played guitar the way people played the piano, one hand is playing the rhythm and the other hand the malady there's a way that guitar players play one of them. It would just be too. You know? From the guitar all at one time or this. One idea in the guitar is is basically, that's what the only thing. The only thing the guitar is doing or guitar players will tend to play lead, right? Roberts doing all of that together. And that's what Hannah players do because they have left hand right hand. And so they're left hand is sort of making the base go in the right hand is playing the harmony, and it's also playing the melody the left hand can also play part of the harmonies the left hand is moving boon boon, Dan, the right hand's going do. But. Boo. Even know me. It's it sounds like there's two or three guitars talking to each other. John Zarrella is the chief pop music critic at the New York Times, there's the low rhythm guitar. Here's the high slide cords that answer him whenever he feels like it. A high kind of caning kind of train whistle. Single note thing going up at the top. And they're all in this completely volatile dialogue trialogue. All talking to each other all talking to his voice to be hard pressed to find any exact repetition throughout the song. It's wings. It drives it cries. It's just a beautiful thing. Robert Johnson technique is still studied by guitar aficionados all over the world and the way that he's going to do that is YouTube sessions like these have millions of views collectively dealing with the blues. Johnson traveled all over the south performing in. He also went further north to New York New jersey, Chicago, even Canada he and the blues influence, not only rock but hip hop as well says Kevin Philis from Columbia University. The polemics around Blue's devil's music for them nineteen twenties nineteen-thirties and your eat the stuff now are on that moral panics around hip hop. They pretty much the same. And it's basically around that blue sensibility speaking, honestly about your feelings. Whether they're polite or not honestly speaking about sexuality. Honestly, speaking about a crisis of faith, Radin affirmation, right? It's all of those things Stevens debt Claude knew his dad was a blues musician, but he didn't know he was famous to the nineteen ninety s when claude's mom became pregnant their family didn't let her marry Johnson. They were religious and he played devil's music Claude only saw his dead a couple of times, even though his Johnson's only known son. He ended up going to court in was declared Robert Johnson so air in nineteen. Ninety eight. Claude died a few years ago. And today, Robert Johnson state is managed by his four grandchildren and two step, grandchildren. Michael says Robert Johnson is also a myth for them. Xi's a myth because oh, we have never made him engaging. The coach station. William we have. Favorite personnels founded, but we know very batting. Robert Johnson died Mississippi at the age of twenty seven his theft, like his life is filled with mystery some say he was poisoned by a jealous husband on their say, he died of pneumonia, or maybe it was syphilis or heavy drinking in this mome. Jozy 'em that his grandson's run in crystal springs, which is close to his hometown. There are no personal objects that belonged to him not even a hat in while men emits to surround Rob Johnson other blues musicians may have claimed the Lord themselves when I was in Jackson. I winced a blues gem session at a club called halls and malls. There. I was approached by a member of another Johnson family. My name is VERA Johnson Collins. I am the niece legendary blues trailblazer. Timea johnson. Who is my paternal uncle who? I heard many stories about the crossroad. Vera claims it was hurt on Chol who actually sold his soul to the devil at a crossroad and that Robert Jones from probably stole the story from him. She's no hoping to make a documentary to set the record straight. I'm not trying to move Robert out of this place. I just won't time to have his rightful place. There's a place in history for Tommy like I said he was born in eighteen ninety six he's with Charlie pad Willie Brown Rampal, Staples. In those people they were the trailblazers. They was early news prewar blues before Robert even thought about. Being on Robert Johnson's grandson, Stephen heard that story before he actually went to school with VERA, his says, she might be right about the crossroad myth. But that doesn't really matter. Johnson himself was not apocryphal. He was a musician of immense talent who was so underappreciated when hill lift that how he lived is the big question, Mark. People were made him so famous. It was love for his music his love for life. And the fact that he in joy a really enjoy what he was doing. Taal produced our story and sixties American icon series is funded by the National Endowment for the humanity. Studio three sixteen. That's the jacket cover does. Going to be like this simple. Beautiful classic in nineteen Eighty-four a documentary film crew captured a British heavy metal band as the band toured America promoting an album with a daringly minimalist cover. This soap black smoke. How much more black could display is? None. None. Most of them weren't actually British. And it was a course a fabulous parody band in a fabulous parody documentary called this is spinal tap. It was directed by rob Reiner and mainly improvised by the actors playing the spinal tap band members. Christopher guest, Michael McKean, and Harry Shearer this is spinal tap, essentially, invented genre. It was the template for the brilliant machien entries that Christopher guest went on to direct including best in show and waiting for government. And it all started thirty five years ago this week when this is spinal tap was released. Our story begins with the fake bands. Real biographer. This is Peter Ochia Grosso. I'm the author of inside spinal tap, which they wrote with the cooperation of the band after I saw the movie, I it's the best documentary about a rock band that I've ever seen the fact that the band was a fictitious band is beside the point. Hello. My name is Marty Burgi filmmaker the documentary nature. The film was really intriguing was fun to see how director rob Reiner played with the nine hundred sixty six down to Greenwich Village in New York City to a rock club called the electric banana look for it. It's not there anymore. But that night, I heard a ban that for me redefined, the word rock and roll that ban. Was Britain's now legendary spinal tap so in the late fall of nineteen eighty two when I heard that tap was releasing a new album called smell the glove. I jumped at the chance to make the documentary if you will rocket mentoring jer about to see. There were a number of good documentaries. That had come out before that I'm thinking, particularly of Penelope sphere isses decline of western civilization covering southern California punk rock scenes, which had similar elements of absurdity. My name is Penelope's fears, and I am what they might call a movie die rector, film director filmmaker all that stuff. I was friends with Harry Shearer because I had worked with him on some Albert Brooks movies for Saturday Night Live. I knew Chris guest, and Michael McKean and early early stages of this aspire tap, we sat there, and we talked about what it would be like if I directed it. It was the same premise exactly this fate, hyper English rock band that we're having their ins and outs and daily troubles and going on tour. But I think rob did a better job with it. Then I would have done. To be honest with you because at that point. I felt that they were making too much fun of metal music, and I held it. So dear to my heart that I didn't wanna make fun of it. I didn't wanna do it. I guess it was bad decision on my part. Down the whole ton, right? Then the little job there by y'all. Ahead. Ride, the next two, and where's? Authorized personnel only open the door. That's the state. You authorize you believe your vision. There were people even at the press screening weren't aware that it was a joke. Why wouldn't they make a documentary about a good rock band? Last time tap to America. They were booked into ten thousand seat arenas. And it seems that now they're being booked into fifteen hundred seat arenas does this mean popularity? The group is waning. I just think that their appeal is becoming more selective. I remember going to the screening and not knowing exactly what to expect. And how it was so much better than we figured. It would be it is a satire of early heavy metal. Let's talk about your reviews a little bit this pretentious ponderous collection of religious rock. Psalms is enough to prompt. The question what day did the Lord creates spinal tap? And couldn't he have rested on that day to that one. I'm Robert Crisci. I've been rock critic since nineteen sixty seven two thousand eighteen collection. Is it still good to you who is just nominated for a national book Critics Circle award review had on shark sandwich, which was merely to were review just said shit sandwich. The rock world is especially in those days poorly. Understood by the film world. Nevertheless, they got a lot of the details. Right. And insofar as they didn't it was for comic effect. Well, when you get those wonderful comedians involved, it's great because it gets a little bit dark, but then it comes back up, and it's really. Funny. Beautiful kind of combination of pseudo scripted pseudo documentary pseudo acted you know, it was a hybrid and brilliant that that created a backstory conceptualize the band from their early beginning. So he became the originals is other group niece, then cooling originals Renyin new rich new regionalist. Originalist. They changed their name back to the regular. And we thought well, we could go back to the originals bat, west became attendance. That. As well as their continually deceasing drummers, your first drummer was he died in a bizarre gardening accident thority said best leave it unsold. That context gives the movie a lot of its richness and he was replaced by stampede. Joe? He tied. The official explanation was choked on Ponant. Moment when you're dealing with guys like that who are just so darn good. At improv. You can just let them go stuff. He's replacement James bone also died in steriods circumstances. Applying a festival jazz blues festival jazz, really. A. I love Lucy. And tragic he exploded on stage. Part of what they set out to do was to make fun of all the levels of the business. I have to take my hat off to him for making fun of the managers in the promoters in that record companies, and those kind of people thank God, somebody made fun of you know, they deserve it. They're the ones taken all the money, but Boston gigs being cancelled. I wouldn't worry about it. It's not a big college town. I thought the character of the manager who's very very convincing as this kind of smart guy who's gonna walk away who really is trying to do an impossible job and fixing up problems that happened at the last minute. Those guys actually have to do that. Actually. There's no sex and drugs for David. You know what I do? I find loss luggage. I know Kate mandate instincts in the middle of Austin. Almost hard for them to do things that were more absurd than the actual record companies did plus the promotional problems in the fact that the wreckage were in the store all that stuff. Really happens. Promotion, and nobody shows the personal. Nobody's coming. We had a relationship here. Forget about personal. What about a relationship tore that they go on is not a real tour? They're introducing Stonehenge in Texas. The problem was that the ban was down. I have been that. There was a stone edge monument on the stage that was in danger of being crushed by wolf. Many big thing out of it would have been good idea. Metal bands. Do put a lot of importance on their stage design to the degree that sometimes he gets ridiculous. Because I remember when I was out sheeting ozzfest, one time share Osborne got mad at Fred Durst. Because he had a giant toilet on this. Play. Do you actually play all these play cherish the gear pride? That's pretty real Stein. Listen to it. I'm hearing you would if it will playing really is famous for sustain, and you can just hold it while I mean. You can go by you still be hearing sonic youth. Thurston Moore and Lee Renaldo? I mean, they travelled around with the tar museum and played some of those guitars and had others in reserve in case something happened in the ones they liked say. Tag on it say never implied. It this is a top to us on stage. But it's very very special because if you can see the numbers will go to eleven ams go up to ten exactly does that mean, it's louder is in any louder. Well, it's one out of his name loud volume in heavy metal is extremely important. Personally. I've been to concerts before where my insides shock literally. And I remember one time I went backstage at ACDC concert. Just at the moment that the cannons went off. And I'm pretty sure I had my brain scrambled from that. It was indescribable the way it felt what we do is. If we need that extra push of the cliff. You know, what we do put it up to exactly one wanted to just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that alone. These two eleven. I mean once again, it's exaggerated. But the problem with the cover that WalMart display because it's dirty. Naked woman on all fours. And a a on extended out up to here holding onto the leash and pushing a black glove in her face to sniff. It you don't find that offensive. The album because they have decided that the cover is sexist. What's wrong with being sexy? This is sexist. We said this is in the early eighties. That's not a word that most middle musicians would have had on the tips of their tongues. Let's face it. There's like very few times where women were treated in a more demeaning way then during that late eighties. Metal metal in those days of there were already a few exceptions likely to Ford was a very very male preserve to be fair, spinal tap was making fun of the lower echelon of bans and the kinds of musicians who take themselves so seriously when their talent level is negligible. Even though this plan on tap guys. Perhaps we're not, you know, the motor head or the Judas pre skills and all that of musicians they can do bad. You know, you kind of believed it the three principles McCain and guest and Shearer did actually perform at other times they came back. They made albums. They are good musicians. They're good enough to imitate a really bad band at sometimes it's harder to imitate bad music than good music. We make fun of heavy metal. But the facts better is that of all the rock genres. It's probably the most virtuosic. Most metal bands can really play and many of them no music, especially nineteenth century European classical music influenced by involved in between really mall pace. The metal remains world into itself and Mike senses. They do understand that. There's something comic about what they do. But at the same time it's deadly serious from them when it came out in the mid eighties. The movie didn't do a specially well, but the concept of it was so understood particularly by people inside the music industry that video cassette of the movie became one of the most widely watched videos on many rock bands tore buses, including the heavy metal bands that the movie was intended to send up I think metal fans like anything metal a lot of people like it just for the sophisticated humor of it. They got the joke. Even though it was on them. That's another tribute to the quality and the the brilliance of the conception behind the movie and the execution of it. All right. So they're foolish. Not too bright and their sexual politics. Leave. A great deal of desired nonetheless. There's a sense. Well, they did as well as they could. And maybe a little better with what they were given. There's a sense of human connection between those guys do you? Remember, the I saw that you've ever together. Probably can you remember a little bit here. Christ some black Koffi may we? The railroad. Full that chain being you. If you own the five nineteen to know, what's being cry. By the way. Our story was produced by Jenny Cataldo and BMP audio and spinal tap the band will reunite this spring for performance at the Tribeca film festival in New York City. That's it for this week show studio three sixty is a production of PRI public radio international in association with slate. And our executive producer is Jocelyn. Gonzales are senior editor is into Adam Newman. Our sound engineer is Sandra Lopez holiday. Our producers are Evan chum Lorraine Hanson. Sam Kim Saunders. Tommy, our production assistant is more again, Flannery, and I m Kurt Andersen. He was a loner. He had a habit of not making close friends. Thank you very much to listen. He would just get up and go and not even say goodbye. Our public radio international next time on studio. Three sixty. I started with the prompt that was given to me as a teenager, which is can you draw a personal connection between your own life and the constitution reliving a high school speech competition on a Broadway stage. I got pretty quickly to reproductive rights and to Roe v. Wade Heidi Shreck, great play what the constitution means to me. That's next time on studio. Three sixty. This episode was brought to buy dropbox story that the film sister Amy tells is ambitious in scope and scale, it's not just a drama or comedy or a period piece. 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