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Jimmy Butler Wants Out

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44:30 min | 2 years ago

Jimmy Butler Wants Out

"Oh yeah, we got a lot of this spend the junk today. Jump starts now. Does. I mean, right, thank you. Steven, welcome to the job. I'm Rachel Nichols joined by our insiders glow and the hall of Famer Jackie. You make it, you got to, you know, use it for the rest of time. All right. So we were a little busy, busy busy here. The jump yesterday answer. I knew the Jimmy Butler situation was also brewing, but let's be honest. It has been months, right? We've been talking about the locker room dynamic, Minnesota. What is you me Butler? Think of Karl Anthony towns. What is Karl Anthony towns? Think of Andrew, Wiggins, but does Andrew Wiggins. Think of Tom Izzo it's like being trapped any sixth grade lunch table on and on endless circles. Everyone heard it was messy. Nothing ever seemed to really change. Yeah, that's over. Let's see. In just the past two days, Jimmy met with Tibbs. Minnesota. Oh, wait. No. The meeting got moved to Los Angeles where they were supposed to get on the same page before training camp opens a wait. No, the Atlantic reported the Butler ask for trade, which was huge and meant that Tibbs the coach was going to have to have a, you know, heart to heart with Tim's the team president race, right? Oh, wait, no ten. Tim said, he's not interested in dealing Jimmy right now. Oh, wait, no, is reporting the Jimmy still wants a trade and would like to go to the Knicks nets or clippers? Oh eight. No, whoa. Jeff date, Jimmy actually prefers the clippers specifically, but also it's going to be hard to work out a trade quickly. So Butler is likely to start the season in Minnesota. Oh, wait. No, that might be a problem because when the Butler trade news was breaking Andrew Wiggins brother sent out this tweet hollow yet. And I mean, hey, maybe it wasn't directed at Jimmy, right? Maybe we brother is really religious, maybe. Oh, wait. No, Jimmy responded to Wiggins brother with this video. I do. Essay minutes, say, man, keep that same energy's clearly dig it Wiggins who has been repeatedly accused of having a low motor, and now this is fishery a mess because the wolves have graduated from the sixth grade lunch table to a full on locker room problem. At least it didn't get more petty from there. Oh, wait. No, our guys Steven Jackson, who when he's not here at the jump off and puts out his thoughts on his, I decided to come to Butler's defense and well, listen. This other compensation should win with a Andrew Wiggins and his brother when Andrew found out his butter Sunday tweet about how Louis and all right. Wings, say, big, bro. I don't think you should have sent it tweet out why you say that. Jimmy bother me. He played with a lot of heart. He played all he played with a lot of heart and I ain't got no. After that all hell broke loose Wiggins called out stack on his story. Calling him old saying he was nothing special. Then we brother chimed in again in the comments sink stack, probably only average zone six and a half points a game shutout to our producer Steve, noting that no, that number's actually fifteen. Thank you. And of course, as many other folks chimed in, there's that championship ring that stack one two, and you would think that would be it, but, oh, wait, no. From the top rope here comes Stephen again. Make sure your interesting when you see me bre. Right? I'm pussy. No, YM interest-rate just focus on find some hard and having a good year wish you the best. You got a lot of town. Just find that. Please try to do that with me, bro. You know what I'm saying? Just keep the same in in traffic. Okay. So that has to be a right. I mean, you can't follow that. Oh, wait, no, Larry Markkanen. Yes, that nice kid from Finland. This is what he posted on Twitter this morning, and please notice it is not just the picture, but the abbey to just n taste anyway, missed that. He is trolling Minnesota for trading him for Butler. This is really just futile work. I mean, it brings tears to my eyes that he was able to do this this morning. So yeah, from two days ago when it was still guests, we'll see if all those guys Minnesota can get along better this year too. Well, whatever you would call what we have. Now, all I can say is this one that Ascot quickly to trust me current MBA players, really? This is for any of you. You absolutely do not want to catch Stephen Jackson and traffic and three. I'm having a hard time seeing how tips can put this Jimmy Butler situation back in the box. It's just mushrooming too fast, Jackie. What do you think? Do you think there is even a way to repair this rift between Jimmy and the wolves? No. I think you've wait only. He's made up his mind. He has all the power because he's going to be free agent this summer. Now I think the Minnesota can treat can determine when they're going to trade Jimmy Butler. And I understand why Tibbs isn't going to do it right away. I'm not sure I would either you gotta take one less crack at this, but short of trading Andrew Wiggins and bringing Stephen Jackson back on a ten day contract. I mean, I don't know how you make this work. I just want to say for the record yesterday, it was only like the seventeenth. Most embarrassing thing to have to do. The Minnesota Timberwolves is like the posted year. Let's listen. How embarrassing looking fury. This would be fixable. In theory, in theory, theory, she comes back. The team is really good. They win forty, nine fifty games the young guys, mature and get better and play hard in the playoffs. And everyone realizes, hey, this isn't bad. In theory, in reality, this is completely broken and that would be absolutely blown away. If Jimmy Butler is not traded and I would actually lean to it happening soon. The wildcard is just Tibbs wanna do it right? Is the coach and the GM doesn't want to wait away. But there's one guy above them and that's the owner. And when do all the people on the business side who are ready to get this done before media day, they do not want a circus on media day. When do they get his ear? And does Glenn Taylor just situation saying, man, I mean me today for the timber. Wolves is on Monday. Their training camp opens on Monday. What was showing up at media day, doesn't care. I was gonna say, well, really? You think it's going to be pretty pretty interesting. They're pretty uncomfortable. You got to deal with the media got the d. with your teammate that you just called out on social media. You gotta deal with the coach and GM who you've now sort of embarrassed. Right? Absolutely. First of all, I should tell the people that we had to explain his act before the show would catch you and traffic means what that's again. Why don't you just ask the question? I wanna to make sure. Graphic show traffic him. But the fact is one of the Jackie's young, but he's all that's what I love about him. Thank you. This is like an old guard. Yeah, he is. But the fact that it did escalate like this. I mean, it does seem, you know what? It tells you. It tells you how close to the surface all this stuff. What you remember before we were saying, well, we we know that we think that Wiggins Jimmy Butler, but we've never seen evidence we think are the absolute. Is your evidence just to. A month ago. So now you understand how close all this was. So you guys know better than anyone how the mechanics of it works. When the one of these trades is being put together, first of all, you're never gonna get value back for. Right. Never gonna get a Jimmy Butler level. Otherwise are used to that right? Kevin prince there. So that's one problem doing it under the gun when there's some threat of doing it before Monday seems it'll happen. But again, it's not in theory. When you say, gee, these guys have to now being a locker room together. What? What do you expect the timing to be? Well, I'm sure Jimmy Butler and his people would like it done before Monday. I don't know about the Glenn Taylor would. I'm not sure. Maybe Glenn Taylor thinks he can fix this somehow, and I'm not sure. I'm sure that Andrew Wiggins would certainly like it to be done before Monday now. So that's, but that's what's today. I've lost her as day Thursday. That's I understand. If you're going to gauge a whole bunch of teams, we know what Jimmy's list is, but you know, perhaps you want to engage other teams just in case those other teams have a lot of work to do themselves. You know, I, I don't know that any of them are. I mean, if you gave them the choice, do we sign him in free agency for four and one forty? Or do we trade for and then sign them to five? One ninety four one forty paid that extra year scares them. By the way. Part of the reason the Jimmy reportedly asked for this trade wasn't just I don't like maybe some of the other players in locker room. It was. He wants that five year as opposed to winning till he's a free agent where he can only get four years and I believe it's fifty less million dollars. Okay. But so now you're a team that's thinking about acquiring him and Jimmy Butler is a great player. Don't get me wrong, but you need the other player if you're going to contend if the three teams on that list. So that's what they're going to be digging around. Hey, does this guy like this guy? This guy this right now around the whole league there, there are. This is ROY. As a lot of questions about Jimmy, like a lot of teams. This is this is to teams. Now we got a really reassess or just make sure that he's going to be the kind of locker room presence that draws a Leonard or draws draws whoever. I mean of course, we have the same questions about quiet lynyrd all of a sudden. Well, that's that's true. And by the way, I, yeah, you're absolutely right. Because when he got from Chicago people like, oh, the problem is Chicago, and I think Larry Markkanen Spokane entire bulls franchise this morning on the Lowery bandwagon. I mean, well, we have a lot of Arizona guys on the staff. So that was all ready team marketing around here already. But but yeah, I mean, look, I think there's a little bit of Chicago sort of smiling today and yesterday. Well, I just, you know, they're going to have on their face because they traded a lot of stuff for Jimmy. Now they're going to have to trade him again for less stuff, and it's going to bed. But really at the end of the day Levin just got paid nine hundred million. No one knows if he's a good, Chris, Don a total question Mark. He's twenty five. The only guy that might matter in five years really from that trade is this guy. Right here. He is going to be good, celebrate Finland, celebrate what hoping for Chris done. My foolish. Stuff too, but he's not young people think he's like twenty. Five also say, I want to move onto Wiggins, but I will also say that so much can change in a year. We've got qui- video up here and just the idea that you say quite Leonard run a raptor rate the year ago would have been an insane thing to say. So when we're sitting here Jimmy Butler and I've seen this morning of people like, oh, if Jimmy gets treated here. And then in the summer you can convince x to join him so much can change before. Now in the summer, I wouldn't make any deal banking on ex player, joining him nine ten months. Can't you can't possibly project unless it's tempering which happens every day. So maybe you can tampering and this is stab. -ment can't believe that I'm interested to get your thoughts on Wiggins on in in Wiggins on court sort of thing. I mean, you know what Stephen Jackson was referring to Jimmy Butler was referring to was these accusations of, hey, this low motor isn't trying hard all the time squandering. His talent is fair to Andrew Wiggins. I mean, I I don't think he tries hard all the time, but I. I don't think a lot of the players try as hard as they can on every single possession, but he has. He has like he's like a bystander, a out of the time in honestly did the Butler. This is a mess. All the Instagram stuff is funny underneath. This is festering the issue of what if injure, we just isn't good. Like if he's not good, you just paid a max steel. It's this is year five for him. It's time to be like, good. It's time to be productive. He had a bad year last year takes way too many mid-range jumpers. You can't get any mid range jumper. You can't pass. You can't defend. It's time to be something other than like younger Rudy, gay. So I think Andrew Wiggins is good, but I just don't think he's going to be great because in my experience in the league and watching these young players year issue by year five, if you haven't developed that aggression that motor, I don't really love that word. So I think this is the throwback air Mckee. I used to your Mckee and I'd watch minute. See that guy should be a perennial all-star, and he had all the skills and Larry Brown used to Dr Larry Brown insane because he could. He could do one thing if you gain the. You'd be like, wow, you do that. Every game could be this. And that's a little who Andrew Wiggins reminds me. I will say, this is the fence now that was your four last year. But last year, the additional Butler Crawford rose gave them all these ball handlers and we're really, and everyone could have predicted. This was a bad fit for Wiggins because when he doesn't have the ball, he just stands in the corner stands of three point line and you can't shoot threes, nobody guards and it just didn't work. They just gave him a big contract, didn't they just give them the contract a summer ago, feels like just, but my point is that I remember specifically when they did give him that deal. The Glenn Taylor may be unusual step for owner, right to come out and basically say publicly, I am giving him this, but it is basically the promise from him change. We had a meeting and we'd legged our finger eight and I'm not sure not did enough change that you. I mean, do you guys feel that something significant change after he signed? Let's see if you can shoot threes. Like if I'm if I'm Andrew lock myself in the gym at all, I would've done all summer shoot three pointers. It will. Be man. This this story is not over and really by the time we end this show has been going. I would expect us to be talking about it again at the end of the show because there's going to be something else that happens up next though we're gonna get Zack's thoughts on the forthcoming sequel to Space Jam. That was announced yesterday. And if you don't remember one of the finest works ever ever Kuala grantland in ESPN was a Space, Jam analysis like a serious one really serious. Now, Yep, you guessed it. I'm a speed bump, so I've got one job. I slow you down. So imagine I feel about Geico who does way more like not only could they save you money on car insurance, but they've been around for over seventy five years, giving people fast and friendly claim service. Ow. Plus they got an iffy mobile app that gives you twenty four, seven access ow. Just doing my job buddy Geico expect great savings and a whole lot more. You look in the camera and say, it's a make or miss league. Our that. Okay. Then you don't have to say appraiser. Thank you pastor Beverly minks. Here's James harden playing pickup, only dropping dimes passing is not usually what we see in pick them games, Jackie. Well, it is if you're James harden, right? Because that's what makes you so very, very special who is playing with tonight. These guys I want to speak. Right. Is this the one in New York or right as the building that. Funches echoed that blackout run that went to the players. Alright with passing and pick up because that's what makes you know. That's why you like myself with the real stuff. This grudges, this is so good, Utah, Jazz, NBA, Twitter, I love u Utah, Jazz dot com article. This is different. Utah's story. I'm sorry, this is more serious describing the fallout between Jerry Sloan, Darren Williams back in two thousand eleven that led to retiring and getting traded according to Williams the to have met and buried the hatchet. So this is nice, sentimental, Utah story. We'll get a little bit later to the front of your story, but what do you think about this? What do you remember about there in Utah? I guess it's nice like eight years later. D. will was a beast. And the irony is Jerry Sloan system was a great fit for him and allowed them to screen and post up and run around. I don't know what he was so unhappy about this. Manage to me. Family matters. Terry Rozier told q, he realized he was blowing up when he was sitting in a restaurant and Jalil white who is of course, steeper recognized him instead of the other way around the new barometer for 'em BA stardom. Dear. What about Stefan or kellyn Terry, I think other people recognize you wasn't he on stage at concert recently with somebody really big. It's great, Drake, Trey, quit know as you man. Why use Steve Young watched family matters on reruns, of course, it is do not own a television sport boredom. This is the story I've been waiting for the jazz got new purple jerseys. Joing goes wants to know of his sold-out. 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Jam is like a thirty minute television show with like twenty minutes of credits on either end and some. Harry Hilden when this movie came out. Kelvin. I, I didn't have children when the movie came out. It was like. Space Jam too good. He's a great player of all time. He surpassed as Michael Jordan, just like that Space Jam is fantastic. I will not take the slander how dare you how dare you. I take it back. Don't go read ex article, although it is really, really funny up. Next is lonzo's health going to keep him from earning these starting point guards spot on the Lakers. We will discuss next on the Joan. Tomorrow, three eastern new Pacific that jumped will be live in Philadelphia as training camps officially opened. Our guest will be joylin bead and Ben Simmons and good thing headed to Philip because they just hired a new general manager. Steven Jackson, that promo, he's going to be live on air with us tomorrow too. So you know, you're gonna want to check that out. Let's talk about brands brand spoke today about his goals for the seventy Sixers. This season. Take a listen. Goes to develop this young court. Joe wells first time in the playoffs. There was bins first time in the playoffs. We talk about adding the third superstar. We have that third superstar in this room right now and Ford like we have that much talent. They're young, but we have that much talent. So just development and getting farther than we do. Zack. You heard brand talk about the talent, the Sixers, have, how much pressure is there on him in this new role? The next eighteen months are big for them. He's talking about if they're going to get that third star that third big salary before Ben Simmons gets presumably amac's. It starts to get mechanically a little harder. Although the do have trade assets like Miami's pick. It starts to get mechanically little harder just like sly Jimmy Butler slide in there. So it's it's restarting literally. Now Jimmy Butler. It gets interesting, but do you think the pressure is really on Elton Bryant brand in that regard? So I think Elton brand very well respected throughout the league player, and I think now is the front office guy, but I think you know, Brett Brown was in this role for this interim amount of time. We know that Josh Harris is super hands on owner. So to me, this is more of a consortium. It's going to make these decisions. So I think Elton gets to walk in here, and I don't think there's a ton of pressure on him by the way. I think that's excellent. That's an excellent way to bring him into the finance. I think he's going to be a really good GM everybody, those interesting position because they have that salary slot. There's been so much attention on like, oh, why didn't they get a big name player this past summer? Who are they gonna. Next summer on most teams, if you had someone like Joel Embiid, who was a bit of a once in a lifetime player, Ben Simmons who people are saying, he's the next LeBron James, and by the way, Marco Fulton was also the number one pick from us year and we can discuss in a minute how that may or may not turn out. You wouldn't sit there and say, oh, this is a team that really needs a big star, but that is sort of the guy that's been cast for Philadelphia in some ways. I'm, I'm understood that I, I really like Sarah till. On the one hand, you're right because everyone branded this summer like a failure in a big failure and they didn't even get elites walked away from them. There's no failure right now would you have? It was very is failure when these two guys, however, to if you want to win a championship, if a third guy is is not always a prerequisite, but really helps. And you only have so many chances to get one. And so I understand why people are like, you know why? Not if we can why not. I mean, it's really speaks to the pressure of Danny Ainge in the Boston Celtics that little bars about him. How much pressure is there? An brand pressures come in from Boston, right? The whole point of having these two exceptional players is to at least get out of the east and make the finals right. Take a shot at a ring. And when you've got just down the road up up up the road, the road rate stocked team, that's so crazy, very deep Celtics have. I mean, that's sort of creates that pressure to do wanna talk about Marco Foltz because number one pick last year only appeared in fourteen games. During his rookie season. Obviously, one of the more than usual storylines we had last year in the NBA which is saying something considering the storylines we had last season. He's speaking for himself now which I always appreciate. Take a listen. Our new guy drafted. No-one pick for a reason. It was a lot of things going on about changing shots and all this there. But for me, I'm a Hooper. So I was like, man is English Tommy. So people really didn't understand it thought like just being song. I mean, it was really injury now got a chance to just sit down and. And pick apart all these doctors. We figured it out, and I've been back to work this summer and every day is back to even better than what it was. So sixer fans are going to get somebody's gonna come in and play art. I mean, I think I'm gonna be that guy that's going to be able to create create shots for himself and his team mates. I mean, I got in the game when you need a bucket, you don't really have to call the play. I wanted to be special. You know, when I come back and I wanna have people guessing. So I mean this, this going to be good. Thank you. The players Tribune for that video and you look at this young core, there you go. In Philadelphia, Jackie. What do you expect? Because it's so hard to know as he says only in that video, a lot of us still don't understand what the problem was. It's hard to know if that problem fixed. I don't know if you guys saw the post that he gives them social media over the course of the summer, but it was about mental health being joke, and I think Fulton has made sure he's healthy physically. I think he's done something to take care of his mental Welby as well, and and he's working on shot. I think he's going to have a really big year. I think it's crazy for people to give up on this kid after it. You say one funkier that did involve physical health mental health and just weird situation from him from the get-go by the way that was not helped by zone teens. It was a bizarre situation. It was definitely a mental pointed to it. If not the biggest component might have been a mental component. I what are we gonna expect? I, I don't know the player he describes exactly what they need a guy who can run the pick and roll and get into the lane and kicking out. That's exactly what the Sixers, that's what that Boston series kind of exposed. They didn't have that dynamic. His shot looks better. It's still looks a little like the release point is pretty low. It's not the same shot that he had in college. So we'll see. I hope I hope that video proves to be like, I would actually look. Pick up Jack in what you said. He says in the video, oh, people didn't really understand what was going on. Just saying, I'm soft. This is what you have talked about. Sold were look wenttly all summer is that this language has to just we just gotta get away with it and it's not because he can't handle it not talking about the same thing. There is a difference between, hey, he doesn't want to put in the work. He's not tough enough. That's kind of what soft is supposed to mean rate as you won't take. You won't right. That does not apply to, hey, I am dealing with some actual real medical issues. Those are different things, and that's why I believe, you know, I think the Sixers have done a really good job with Markelle Foltz. He's got a clean slate with them and not all teams can afford to do that or willing to do that. I think Brett Brown has made it his his charge to invest in this young man and to spend time with them to understand him. And that's why I think great things are gonna happen for Markelle hope. So that's the one, the one through all of this mess and noise and confusion. The one constant was everybody in that organization. He is a wonderful. On every teammate in that locker room stood up for him, which is the other thing that tells me he's not soft. He's willing to do the work. He had some work to an obstacle to overcome and his trying to overcome them. I wanna talk about another young player entering his second year. Luke Walton telling spectrum sports net that Lonzo ball won't be ready for five on five scrimmages when training camp begins next week. While also said the Lakers quote won't rush Lonzo back ball, of course, Arthur Scott surgery on his left knee into lie, still recovering. So look on the one hand, you can say the organization that really playing it, smart with Lonzo. They rush him young guy. Brian says, all knee surgeries are serious. There's no minor knee surgery. On the other hand, I can't help thinking this is really convenient, right? Because weren't wasn't one of the big questions when they traded for Rondo, who's gonna start as Lonzo gonna get sat. Do they have to worry about you Saiki what if they want? We want Rondo to take serve a leadership role right from the start in the. Bron obviously interested in playing Rondo such smart player is, does this strike you as a nice way to solve that problem? But I think that problem comes back whenever he's healthy because lonzo's better than Rondo even now I think it is in the Lakers interests to start Lonzo and a figure out if you can fit with LeBron. Because to me, that's maybe the biggest question hovering over their team for the next year and be can't. He's gotta look good because they're going to have to start investigating what they get for them. If they just conclude that that's not a match that works and they need them to play, and then even be healthy actually liked the fact that they're doing this because when Lonzo had knickknack injuries last season, there were times. In fact, I remember in the preseason particular, there were whispers, why isn't he out there? Why isn't he playing this idea again, being soft? I think Lonzo heard some of those whispers he had surgery. Okay. So if he needs more time to get back for whatever reason, whether you think he soft or he has a different pain threshold and everybody else, let's be smart about give this kid. Fair shot so they can make the determination that he fits with LeBron the Lakers. I think this is fine. It's interesting though. When you talk about trading, he's not a regular player as a piece to trade. He comes with so much stuff off the court, and there's frankly, some of the stuff is the why the Lakers wanted, right. He had a very high profile coming into draft at a time where it's been very quietly have liked having high profile players from the beginning. He was always never the big. Guys would go at him and he would just say, I'm gonna play, but his persona and obviously created a lot by his family. But his persona was an element of tractive to the Lakers going into that draft. He had the biggest persona, the Lakers love stars. He's from LA all of that stuff, chino hills from the area, but trading him. If that becomes a question. That's a lot to treat for that. I mean, when you guys talk to teams in front offices, the idea Quiring Lonzo, what's the temperature on that people are certainly intrigued by his talent. That's just flashed. It's not an encouraging stat and that needs to change everyone. Roles there is, I don't know that there's any organization that is afraid of lavar or or you know, we couldn't handle it. Every organization is always confident that it can handle anything that team's screwed up. We can right. I don't. I don't think that would be. I don't think we'll prevent the deal. No, I agree. And you know, the the issue is is ever be a complete player even if he's an incomplete player, he still better than the lion share of the rookies was drafted talented kid. He's an interesting kid and, and you wonder, I'm always wondering, what is he thinking? And I, I don't know. Well enough to give you an answer personally. I hope that the Lonzo ball Calcutta Michaud goes on forever because that is fun for me. So we'll say, I hope it works out. Here's what the jump recommends for today is PM dot com. Released their latest NBA rank article. One covers players twenty through eleven, if you like, rankings. Look out for the NBA rank special tonight on ESPN two at eight eastern. We will be right back. Kevin Godley with your head on sportscenter tonight. Six eastern Bruce king tells us why the Browns will beat the jets. Plus, what did Conor McGregor do today that is, must see also a fresh abate from Tony Mike on sportscenter right after PTI. AMI is not that far from these guys that we just doing away is I'm just saying, welcome back to the brass president besides discussing Kyle Lowry's reaction to his decision to trade Rosen for for quite Leonard quote, tile is close to demar and he's going to be sensitive that was a blow to him. I think basketball wise, Kyle is always ready. He's always going to be ready. He's training hard and he will be ready Mr.. Toronto. What do you think of that bite? And what do you think is the new fit of Kyle Lowry? And now Leonard, you'll be ready use a pro. I have no doubt about that messiahs, right? The feelings are hard. I don't know how much they're heard from Kyle all summer because of it. He didn't wanna talk about the team USA in in July, but the fit is going to be great and whatever anger he feels is gonna melt away when he was like, oh, this is really good. He just took the ball from someone in dunk. That was awesome. And not only that, oh my gosh, I'm off the ball. Look at all the spacing. I have because everybody's guarding Kawhi this is going to help Lowery's offense. Game and trims Kyle such a great player is that he is shooting ability, makes him an easy fit with the guy like quad, it'd be a catch and shoot three point guy this year. One thing if I was so interesting about this whole situation with Kyle and tomorrow and the raptors and how the trade went down. You know, the sort of what is now become a regular conversation about loyalty where through the players all time in the franchisor, why do you get on us? When we change is free agent. I understand all that comes up the hate and sort of venom that comes to them when they decide to switch teams and they always wanna make the point. We can get searched anytime. To me. The more interesting discussion around all of that though was the idea of family right that we ask players and not just we as fans, but teams ask, they ask each other, then idea being brotherhood is real. I don't know if you can be successful chasing winning team without having some sort of very close personal relationship. But the guys in that locker room and like a family, it's not a wonderful and sappy, but those those that every championship team I've covered those guys have gotten really close with. Each other. So to win a requirement to win in this league, the guys get really close and then like Collin, demar by the way, didn't even like each other. The first they played together, they didn't even have each other's phone numbers. They didn't speak off the court. They had told me and then they became so close that by this past year, they would practice together all day come home from the facility at night and FaceTime. Each other on the couch is they were both watching basketball games and movies together, and then we split them up. I understand why that is very complicated set of feeling. Well, it's a complicated feelings, but it's also just the way it works. I mean, if if I mean I think there was a chance Kyle Lowry could've gotten traded instead of Dhamar Rosen. And so then we'd be talking about it the other way around. I have to tell you, I did cover a lot of championship. Teams were guys weren't super close off the court. They had chemistry on the court, but you know some of those bulls teams for since they weren't, they weren't, you know, like these two guys. Relationships. Family is actually good comp because I know a lot of families where people aren't super close, but it's deep, emotional relationship, quite literal in Toronto where you walk into their locker room. The first wall that you see is is a bunch of they've attached are sort of melted into the wall. A bunch of like everyone's baby pictures and everyone's pictures of their family. They make. It's not it's on perfectly. We are family. That's what we are in your kids. Part of the family and your parents are part of the family. So what's what's poor Pasqualino do without y'all Purtill for instance, I know that was that was funny. Do without. Good nicely in San Antonio. It's gonna be tough for you. I hope we can help you through this difficult time. I'll be. I'll be okay tomorrow. Leonard is expected to speak to the media for the first time since more or less demanding trade from the Spurs. Would you re said, quote Hawaii determined and seems in the right frame of mind, you will be hearing from him shortly. I think there is a fire inside of him and we are all excited about that. This is my favorite. We call these cars at the bottom of the screen. My favorite topics part of the show because Jacky, when I say, what do you expect to hear from tomorrow? Partly mean what's the sentiment you expect from him? So we don't hear him, speak words very often any. So what do you expect to hear from him? Think what I'm going to hear what you're all going to hear too, is that whatever happened in San Antonio is in the past, I'm not going to discuss that. I'm here to discuss my future and I, I'm going to make it work here in Toronto, and I'm committed to Kyle Lowry into Masai and and to Pasquale and sorry, Yakup that I won't be committed to you and I expect I expect nothing dramatic. I don't expect any fireworks. And I mean, I don't expect him to talk for more than three minutes and we won't understand like two and a half minutes because he'll be talking. So low online here saying, you will be hearing from him shortly. It's like the HR manager's going to call you. Until you're gonna call you, you'll be hearing shortly. Platitudes is going to say, say nothing and then we'll move on with the rest of media. I mean, we'll we'll never know right. What happened you someday we'll know book someone will someone will say something towards down the line. It'll come out. It'll come out someday. Someone says something. Somewhat something it'll come out. It'll happen. Already in that photo there's a day I'm going to be like sort of tourist travelling through, you know, world China, and I'm going to walk into a hut and someone's going to be like, did you see the Woche tweet? That's your right. Something always happens up. Next would be smart to trade for Jimmy Butler. If he doesn't commit to a long term extension, I told you they'd be more Jimmy Butler news. Would any team be so interested desperate toward should be is we'll discuss it next. Friday is to Red Sox Indians in the first game of a three-game series. I a lot of friends very interested in this three gamer, and then our next ESPN thirty for thirty film titled say out it is the story of how junior sale became one of the greatest NFL linebackers of all time only to have his life end in a tragedy that would rock the leak. And I would argue still reverberates today start your subscription is and plus retrial. You can watch those all right time to play the music. I wanna make the spy ring right back people. We know Jimmy Butler preferred list of teams to be traded to the nets Nixon clippers with the clippers being his ideal destinations, we'd be happy with that sentence lose the team porcine in extension with. So the theory is the incentive for the wolves to trade in there as they get more back for him. What about a team? Not on this list, Jackie. Do you think anybody else we were just talking about Philadelphia. Do you think anybody else. Start to make. Oh, so we we were talking off camera about the three teams, the nets, the Knicks and the clippers and the packages they may put together. I find them all to be incredibly underwhelming. I'm right. We were just talking about shea Gill. Alexander everybody says it's going to be a flat out star and how the clippers probably wouldn't want to include him right. Something like that. So if I'm another team, I'm gonna throw my junk. I don't wanna say junk. I'm going to put on my stuff out. I'm gonna throw. I'm gonna make on many levels Jackie. Go ahead. You know, I'm gonna make my offer. It's not going to be the best offer, but at least you know, I'm in the ballpark and and if you if you don't answer my call, why am I any worse for the wear Toronto, not on Kawhi Leonard preferred list, and of course Oklahoma City on, I'm Paul George's preferred list. So there's precedent for this. Worked out for one of those teams TVD Toronto. I think there will be a team, you know, it could be a team that's so good that they think we're going to be a sixty one team right away, and that'll be enough. It could be a team like the heat who is desperate in an celery cap. Hell in always has faith up. If we get a guy here in south beach, in our culture, we can sway him or could be a team with a big salary. This look, even if this guy's pretty good worse in trapped in such salary jail. If we if we've moved the salary for Jimmy and Jimmy leaves and we get off that salary, it's still like a net neutral. Miami is a really, really good. We know how Jimmy Butler nd Wayne Wade are. I mean, even after they parted made in part ways, but even after they were in Chicago, they still spend time trav-. Together in the summer plus think about their culture. They worked their tails off. It's all about defense and body fat, and they had the hardly the best owner in the NBA in Mickey. Yeah. So Jimmy would be where he confessed rated with some of the players in the locker room. The presumption is that he would be all in on the team culture. Although look Tom would argue that he has been trying to set that same team culture with the wolves doing the body fat thing though. Just wondering because you know the heat, do that still do do just crazy. Write a whole book someday on all the ways guys tried to beat the body fat index, right? The mood. They also do the ipad thing. Yeah. They all have stories, have stories. Publicly on television. Jackie MacMullan is one of my favorite humans on earth. We can move on just all the. Let's go team. Let's go to a team basketball. Why do they always do that? Why. That is Jimmy Butler list Knicks and I'm media day with a lot more of those pictures. The teams has been adamant about not trading graphics or young players upcoming free agents Dino's even after the Jimmy Butler news broke reiterated it to day. This is fresh quote. We feel comfortable with our organization where we're going, what we're developing here. We think when it's time to go after free agents, we'll be a place that will attract those free agents. We shouldn't use our draft picks like that. Instead, we will go out and attract dies speaking like an organization that traded a boatload of Denver for a guy that could have gotten. I'm just saying it is a is a tent pole decision among the New York Knicks history that would assume they regret clearly they do, and they regret a lot of other things that have happened in the last senior. Again. I look. I don't see if they're going to trade fraternity Butler. I don't think I don't think they would ever put in what the wolves would want. And I think they're being honest, I'm gonna take them at their word. They've said it over and over again. I think they're keeping Knox Miller kina and they're picking those are the three big assets that they have bet they keep all three. And if you're the timber wolves, those are the three asset you want unless you want to give me a Kristaps Porzingis which we all know break. This is why I think it's going to be interesting to follow his Jimmy Butler thing because if you take the three teams and you see what they, what they're offering, if on the timber wolves, that is not what I want for Jimmy Butler. I need somebody to give me something different. See, I'm I'm of the belief that it's worth whatever you decide you can live with. Maybe it's just one of those guys you mentioned right? Partying the way with them or, you know, maybe knock, she me just want whatever you decide right ever. There's always something I do that trade for six pack of whatever, whatever it is something that is your low. Well, of course, I would do if it's going to be that that make the offer because. Exactly. I do think that sometimes team sort of just decide that, oh, well, that would never get it done. And then you have these teams stuck with. They are stuck with players who don't want to be there, but I'm telling you, Tibbs is stubborn, stubborn, you wait, and you wait and wait, and maybe a big star gets hurt on one of these other contending teams, and then you trait Jimmy Butler if I'm him, why am I trading him? Now? I can't think of one. Good reason. Why if I'm Tibbs trading Jimmy Butler right now. Well, how poisonous do you think the locker room environment was anyway, we'll be clearly was anyway, we're hearing about it. That's the only difference they played. They made the playoffs. Let Jere with that poison. His line, I think they would make it again this sure if they'll sit together. I mean, the left is loaded, but I think if Jimmy and Carl or healthy, that's a good team, not a great team, but good team. I mean, I it is. It's tough dynamic, and and Tibbs is obviously as we know it, tough coach, right? I mean, he's not known for sort of Phil Jackson like sessions of people getting out there. Feelings. He's not. He's not a. He's not a cuddly buries a grizzly bear, right? But you know what? That's supposedly what Jimmy Butler wanted a grizzly bear. Right. I mean, in terms of making. Well, I mean, I think you have some point. You just say, hey, you're all men were paying a lot of money. Do your job. I don't wanna hear anything more. Jake do your job or go on the court and play hard. We play well, we focus on the stuff that tips teaches. They're gonna win forty, eight forty, nine fifty games, but it looks like the ship assailed. I would also say in that instruction, maybe stay off the social media for a while because. That's not helping out. I don't know. I wouldn't pick a fight with Stephen Jackson. I just don't understand where anybody's decided to do that at all. We're going to have stack on the show. As I said tomorrow, live from Philadelphia training camp finally opens usually in the month leading up to train in campus, super quiet that has this year, but I'm excited for basketball star getting played again. Thank you to these lovely people for joining us. We will see.

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Hour 1  Michael Lee (07-09-20)

The Dan Patrick Show

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Hour 1 Michael Lee (07-09-20)

"You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox sports radio. We are the odd couple and we are filling in for Dan Patrick. This of course is the Dan Patrick Show and we have a great three hours for you today. There's plenty of NFL plenty of NBA. Era Parker even. Got Excited about a little bit of baseball last night, so we will talk about all of the squad game I'm watching on television. My year I I missed that one I got admit I missed that one Chris. WE'RE GETTING WIND Dodgers against the dodgers and I was like what okay we'll get into. We'll talk about it, but I got much. What's what's there to say about it? I was I. Was I did? I. Never watched interest in a squad game. You know what I mean and got excited. I know we're still a few weeks opening day, but my goodness I was like. I've been missing this. You know what I guess. That was the feeling I got really realized how much I was missing. Just watching the game fans in the stands nothing nothing and it was Hari. All well, the hey, a good because we all have to get used to know fans in the stands, and just liking the game for for the purest of reasons, right baseball basketball football. It'll be like that too We got Joel Elliot on the ones and the TWOS, so he'll be bringing in the music from the break. So that's our man Joel and so rob. Let's get right into it. Steven Jackson. Who is both you and I know well? He's our colleague. We worked with both places the former network, but also most recently Fox sports one and a good guy, and he has been some hot water. The last couple of days and it really wasn't. I he jumped in. We need really have to, but it starts with the Sean Jackson who. A couple of days ago. Put on Instagram a quote. That was attributed to Adolf Hitler. That Just trafficked in stereotypes of Jews talking about they run the world. They wanted to take over the America and things like that. Keep down the yeah, it was. It was just yeah. It was a lot of that and And he got a lot of pushback for. Nine. Right. You're not surprised. Are you know no, no, no, no, no, no, not at all. And he apologized now, Sean, so sean came out and apologized. And and just for the record, and I've stated before I think I stated. On our show a couple of days ago and I stated it maybe even yesterday. We're talking with Jason McIntyre on this show, but I'll say it again. I don't think the Sean Jackson should be. Cut. If I I. Don't think the Philadelphia Eagles can cutting because we rally. said the N. Word it. There's no good way to say it, but he said it. You know in a very aggressive way. I'll fight all you in. Were that a country? Western, combine. Out Two security guards. Some issue, and that he had with one guy, but he just said in any all out there I'll. I'll fight y'all kind of right just. Looked like, he's got full of himself. Thinking what we're really many brothers around, or nobody would see it, you know. But anyway. Michael Vick. Forgave him. and The Philadelphia Eagles didn't cutting they find him, and then a year later Dave and extended his contract. He played I. Think Two more years with the eagles. Wide Receiver so with that being the precedent that the eagles have set in a similar situation that there's no way they can cut him. In my book, the there's a way, but they don't want to deal with the. Repercussions Rhino what I'm saying is in current climate. And what's going on what's happened? You notice you talk about all the time. The cancel culture. Right ended up right so so if there was no Riley Cooper Chris. Do you think the Sean Jackson was still on Eagles? As a veteran as an as an aged. Wide Receiver. That would be the question what I. Do think they need him as a receiver. I know. He's older brightness. Draft Guy I ran. They did I'm just saying now. Look. There would be a great chance of him getting cut I. Get where you're going from. Store not why it would be, he'd be a major danger being cut. That's what I'm saying. In this climate where we are now. He would have been and the backlash and cause of hypocrisy would be so loud and do the eagles really want to deal with that because to me Chris? The Eagles painted themselves into this corner. Right? What once you do that! You can't say we won't tolerate that and our organization. They've gotten rid of Riley Cooper. Right and said we won't tolerate that. That's not what we're about. That's not how we represent our community and our uniform, and the city of Philadelphia Chris. You could you wouldn't have. You wouldn't have a leg to stand on if they said the same thing with Sean. Jackson corrupts absolutely absolutely. It's about consistency, right and the way they handle rally cooper I mean he didn't have any incidents after that that I know of hopefully he's you know. Turned turned around in that regard, and that's fine, and so, but you have to offer the same grace to Desha. Jackson and I think the learn from this as well, but Steven Jackson even after Sean. Apologized he just the Evans Jackson went on instagram several times and defended it. And I think the crux of this rob, because we know Steven Steve WYNN on CNN finally last night, when on CNN, with Don Lemon, and apologized, he said he he basically apologize for the words he used. He's basically saying I could've used different words. I Apologize For using the wrong words is exactly what he said and he kept saying I. Don't hate anybody. I love all that love all. That's Kinda his catchphrase and. Like I, said we know Steve I don't think he hates anybody. But I think what the lesson is in this rob. And we've all you know you and I include. We've said things. You know that a controversial you know. Most people in this business have said something at one point or another, but. In today's society, especially with social media and everything is such a big deal, people. You have to be careful like know what you're putting out there. Okay and Desha Jackson, started it the obviously you and I've talked about this I was. Can we make a rule? Don't call eight off. Hitler, I mean. Under any circumstances, right? Chris I mean. He absolutist. To say the absolute worst person in the world at that would probably be the only thing you could attach to Adolf Hitler's name anything else. You're going to be called into question and right. It's happened so many people and one other point. I do WANNA make. People have to understand this when they talk about freedom of. Speech at. What what what that really means? Chris 'cause I think people are delusional. You can Chris. Say whatever you want. When they talk about freedom of speech, though and your protections right in this country, it's about you saying bad stuff about the government and the government police or the FBI, or whatever is not knocking at your door Chris and taking you away because you spoke out against the government okay. That's your protection, but when you work for other people. And you represent other people and I'm talking about companies and corporations. There's pushback Ryan and you can't be heard from it. Yes, you can say whatever you want, but that company can also say to you. Those are not our values are and we don't appreciate them, and we don't respect them, and we're not going to tolerate it, and you could be fired or caught, or whatever terms you want you right, you say it. You're not going to jail, but you may. You'RE GONNA there could be repercussions, the job or whatever now Stephen and we talked about look. He's got his tremendous podcasts all the smoke. It's on time or showtime. He said yesterday he didn't mention showtime or anything, and he's not with the SPN. He left ESPN. We'll see you know. He's he's still doing stuff for Fox, or no, that right yeah, but and that's even before it is just you know he hasn't done much Fox lately anyway before this but. What would showtime? was there pushback now? Stephen said yesterday. I'm not apologizing for a job or you know anything like that, so he he kind of implied that he's out. Yeah, it's not for a job. For anybody. Well, I'll buy it in this sense. He's should after all his years in the league and I know he never was a Max contract guy or anything, but he should have made enough money, and then, of course he did years of TV making decent money He should have enough money where he doesn't have to work for anybody so if if he did lose the GIG at showtime. He's still have enough money where he can. You know like you said he don't have to work for anybody but now. As you move forward. Though in life. You just don't I'm just saying you don't want to put yourself out there where? Nobody will mess with you. I'm not saying that right? That's what air. To credibility because remember, he became really prominent in the whole aftermath of the George Floyd murder yes, because they were. Great friends I know, they say brothers but. Wins they win. Yeah, they looked like each other, and and he did some great work with that. And that is you know that is what a lot of people were lamenting. Did he lose all his credibility that he got earned from that and that's. Always say Chris. Either what are we for? We four equality, and not being painted with a broad brush, a whole grind well, that's what happens to us. Black people all the time, right? Somebody. Does something bad and it's all black people, so we can't do that if if we're going to be real about it and we want to be treated. Equally and fairly, and that's what we're looking for quality then we can't do that to the Jews or we can do that. We? Can't to Asian people we can right here absolutely, and and and like you're absolutely right, and also as we say just. Like I don't know it almost comes off like Steven didn't know what he was even defending. Because he like one of the things he said was Desha was speaking the truth. Okay. This, Shaan, first of all in quoting Adolf Hitler was a fake quote like the quote wasn't even it was fabricated right, so puffer, Ganda. was probably so. Even, that is no, we know. He was speaking the truth, but even the very quote. He was putting up with a fake quote. It's not really Oh, you gotta look at what you're putting out there before you put it out. You know before you defend it and all of this now. The Sean, as Stephen, have all it this flag, and whether or not they've lost credibility with people will see the Sean obviously in in for a serious find. And Steven may have Kurt some of his credibility. For what. For, something! That wasn't even accurate. Not even an exactly you know, and so it's just a lesson in, and it could be a lesson for a lot of people. Be careful what you put out there. And you know that that's really all it is, and and I don't think that Sean and Steven are antisemitic or or anything like that. I think they were trying to. You know I'd say it it on our show rob. I think this. Sean Jackson was trying to make a point. The main point he was trying to make was about. african-americans being descended the biblical Jews I said. That's a prominent among a lot of african-american. Point you now. Brandon our slides one. Source also need to add up Hitler Ball right now. Do with make your case. If that's what you WANNA, make without quoting Adolf Hitler. So that that's Kinda the lesson in this like know what you're putting out there. and. That's, that's where it is so hopefully you know guys learn their lesson and can move on from this and. Be the better for it. All right so Lamar Jackson get paid like Patrick Mahomes did we'll debate? Statement hold. Show. Be Sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am eastern six am Pacific on Fox sports radio the IHEARTRADIO APP all right. This is the odd couple Chris Broussard Rob Parker in for Dan Patrick on the Dan Patrick, show arrived. Let's go to the NFL NOT PAT. Kind of Pat Mahomes I guess, but he's not the guy who's quote. We're GONNA talk about. We're GONNA. Talk about Mahomes a Randy Moss Randy Moss one of the greatest y receivers in the history of football with. Of. When I worked in Detroit Chris of do know. He played for the Vikings right and to watch him play twice a year against the lions, and he used crushed allies like he did most. Teams. Put Boy Man. He was watching that guy he was, it was it was a pleasure. He was one of those you know Chris, we all. We've covered a lot of sports a lot of people and aren't that many athletes that that a sports writer would pay. Played what? He he was one of those guys. If you asked me, would you buy a ticket to go see reading moss, catch the football. Absolutely. Yeah, he was a freak and all of the professional athletes, essentially a freaks, but when you're a freak among the freaks, you know that's saying something. We I mean that's how Freakish athleticism was that? He was on a level by himself among the greatest athletes in the world, so no doubt he was great, and of course he played. Rob Whip Tom Brady on a team. That went seventeen in. Oh! And in of course, lost in the super bowl to the New York giants. What they? Want to know. Eighteen in Miami, eight, so ended up eighteen in one right because there was sixteen in old during the regular season. You're right to the super eighteen and no one. Then they lost to the it had they won. There's no doubt they would be regarded as the greatest team in NFL history Chris. They were blowing. The water it was. That regular season they will score and thirty five points a game. I mean it was. It was a video game. Yeah, it was a video game Tom I'll be honest with you with derive. And I'm not trying to get in a big brady discussion, but it was that year. That I really started thinking. You know what? Tom Brady might be the goat. Because at that point had what three super bowls. And you know. He had never had really great receivers. He was winning, but you know his numbers were good, but nothing crazy and he you know he didn't have great receivers, and then I was like. Wow, you give him like a really great receiver hall of Fame Type Receiver and he was putting up incredible numbers. Fifty td's that you're like it was crazy. And that's when I start thinking okay, this guy might be or become the goat so that was a big obviously connection with Randy. Moss, and Tom, Brady but that's what makes what Moss said. Yesterday on ESPN. Even you know more powerful. That is on ESPN's get up. Here's his quote when you look at a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes and like I, said being able to extend the play. I'M A. A deep threat guy and having that type of speed on the field for him to be able to extend plays we possibly could be looking at the greatest quarterback of all time, no disrespect to Tom Brady and what he's been able to accomplish his super bowl ring, speak volumes, but when you look at the position, and how the position and the game is changing year after year we COMPA we could be possibly seen the greatest quarterback that we've witnessed. And you know rob for me. Welcome welcome to the to the to the train. Randy 'cause. I've been saying this not that he is the greatest because he's got a long way to go and he's got a lot left. He asked to accomplish. Mainly winning super bowls, and still putting up the great individual numbers, but I've been out there for a while. After his first year said this guy could be the go. He's got potential. And so I'm fine with what Randy said where you at. I just think it's premature. We get it people need. We got three hours to kill. People need to put content out. At it's easy to be looking at the here and now and I'm not I'm not here to Bash Patrick Mahomes or say he's not on some meteoric rise, and his career is off to a great start two years in the League, MVP and Super Bowl Championship, but I just I'm always pumped breaks it such a long way to go so many different factors he went from. Fifty touchdowns is first year to. Twenty, six or twenty eight last year in the regular, he was her. No, he missed three hundred annoy missed a couple game, but still it was down and it, wasn't he? They won a game in Detroit dispatched. Regular season where he didn't even throw any touchdowns. Mountain game with. The same. How Air was an if you watch the first three quarters? Of the Super Bowl. You wouldn't be saying this stuff that you're saying my point. We wouldn't be saying what. About if they lost. To go just if he would've lost. To got there. You would have said that. After what go. They had a bad gamma I'm asking you would bdo conversation. Yes, because my. Laws this before they even got to the super bowl hat had they lost and. All he did the first three quarters say they lost the game. You would be out here. Saying he's the greatest thing we've ever seen and he's going to be the. Out here now, saying he's the greatest thing we've ever seen. I just think I'm out here. Saying he's got go. And yes, if they had lost that super bowl I still would say he's got go potential. I just would love. And I always use this weather it it applies or not. I just remember rendre. Gorski was an NFL quarterback for a long time. Respected NFL analyst who went out on the limb, and told everybody that Colin capper nick had the chance to be the greatest quarterback whoever played the game and I remember the playoff game against the Green Pat Green Bay packers and I remember. The spark and the charge, and how different laws and stories about how he changed the quarterback position, and you couldn't defend him, and and all that other stuff and things happen and it didn't. It didn't wind up working out. I'm not rooting against Patrick. Mahomes I just think the road is so long, and the other part is the idea that weather I think Joe! Montana's to go put. IF PEOPLE WANNA, pick Tom Brady. The. Goal or the plot? The plateau is so high and just about winning super, bowls. It's not but if the use brady as your standard nine trips to the super bowl six wins. Somebody other seasons and stuff that he's done. It just looks like insurmountable to me. That Patrick Mahomes. Twelve years later is going to have six super bowls, or maybe four, and no losses and teams going to stay together and everything's GonNa work out because I saw Tom Brady and all his glory go ten years without winning a super bowl ten years. Go look it up. People Act like it was the one all of his super bowls in nine or ten years, there was a he went to the Super Bowl Chris, but he lost, and he lost to eat Li-, manning a couple times, and when I look at the landscape of all these young. quarterbacks to Shaw Watson Lamar Jackson, and all the other guys too down in Miami. Who People are excited about? And all these young guys out there? Who are who are coming up? I don't think it's GonNa. Be that easy just to say he's going to win every year and it's a layup. I, I think there's going to be pushed back from guys so I'm just not in that camp as great as starters and as much respect as I have for Patrick Mahomes I've always been a guy to let it breathe. Open up the bottle of wide. Let off a little bit. In twenty twelve, you say Tom Brady was done winning super bowls. That was premature though it wasn't. Really sure and it was wrong. He got lucky last colonial. That's why he resort both. Golf and we're locked style last super bowl he added. Lured Kid, I dare you get enough in it. You just would offer seven minutes. You. Premature mess. I 'cause you were premature Tom Brady. This is not prematurely. What would be premature is to say that he's the go that would be not only premature. That would be ridiculous to say Patrick. Mahomes is the go, but to say he's got the potential. Stop premature he does. End, the compare Colin capper Nick at as only. Nick Capper Knicks are being the league I'm going on old. Capper nick or his best day. Was Not a three quarters of the quarterback that Patrick is on his best day. No, you're missing the point. As. About. Yours. You might sound like Rajon when it's all over. I got my. Eye. On two wars, I know it because it's totally different because Patrick, mahomes has an MVP. Colin Kaepernick didn't get close to an MVP Patrick Malls as a super bowl ring. Colleague cabinet didn't get close to a suit. Wish you said before he wanted Super Bowl. You said it before that, but he's used before you watch the games or Read the stories I watched. MOJO's also why he's got go. Potential is the what he does the way he plays the way he throws the football. That's what it is. It's not about. Anybody looking at him and looking at Colin. Kaepernick sees the difference Chris. My point is simple. I remember the talk about Rg three after his rookie year. I remember Dan Marino. I was GONNA Marino. Already done something. No, no! No my point is Dan Marino in his second year when he had that unbelievable year and got the dolphins to the Super Bowl the sky was the limit. They were talking about Dan Marino, possibly being the greatest quarterback of all time, he never got back to the Super Bowl. That's my point is premature. That's all is ready to help with. That was another of always. Today was Super Bowl. Doesn't if he doesn't get to another super bowl, would it be premature? He'd still be to go. No, it won't be premature to for somebody to say when Lebron James was in high school. He could be the greatest player we've ever seen 'em. People were saying that. It was not premature. He didn't go on in. Our is to do it. We all the. That potential yeah, because some guys, it shouldn't be thrown out. And others it should I like I've said it once or twice. A generation there comes along the player in sports. There's got goat potential. That's all we're saying potential as great as Kevin. Durant is nobody's ever said he had go potential. That's the difference. Put tinsel. That's all we're saying. Let's bring in our man. Speaking of Kevin Durant a reporter who knows durant very well. Good friend of ours Michael Leave senior NBA writer for the athletic. What's go? Hey what's up, fellas. I'm sorry. I interrupted this man I was going. Fan Myself. I was like let me is like double Dutch. Ready to hop in like. A hopping go ahead, rob saying it's premature to say pat. MOJO's has goal potential. That's nobody saying to go. I think it is. Something you you, you know the moment you see. Thank you you don't. You know the moment you see it all. The any any any anything can go another route I. mean you know you can get injured? You can have a number of things happen, but nobody does this and their resume this quickly without you. It'd be an obvious a special. Special all I'm telling you is in the NFL. Yes, you'd be. Registered it. There's just so much stuff that can happen a team Andy. Reid retires. Guys get hurt at Disney. Much. All I'm saying is way too premature. That's all Michael Let's get to your specialty. The NBA for you going down to the bubble. I am staying far away from that I bad. Via. What a! TV and how would you go to? Bloom calls. Zoom calls, or whatever other mechanisms you know to talk to family, members and people associated with players 'CAUSE IT I mean I'm not sure if it's going to be a lot of interest in the game I'm not even sure that'd be that good, but I think that they'll still be human interest stories that can be told that don't necessarily require the axes that you wouldn't be getting even down there, so I don't WanNa. Get into a whole thing about the access that will have as media members, but I don't know if it's safer a better to do it down there in the bubble from from your couch. My. Leonard. Did Not travel with the team to Orlando. He'll be there in a few days got a family matter which I. Totally. Believe is legitimate, but do you have any they athletic? Giovane Buha wrote a story just throwing out questions like. Could this is the knee fully healthier easy fully healthy Willie low manage. Do you have any concerns about like? We've kind of assumed look four months off. Kawais, going to come back. You know and be able to play every night and totally be fine. Do you have any concerns about his health? Because obviously without him, the clippers don't have a chance to win it. I'm concerned about everybody who steps on the court right now in this situation just because that a four month layoff between basketball to go from that to highly intense basketball. I see a lot of potential for risk and I. You know anybody who decided to go. It doesn't go. I, don't you know I? I feel like that's what you need to do for yourself. But I think that this is a highly risky situation, and that's just beyond the whole coronavirus situation, which is already risky with it itself, but having this long break between basketball, but didn't have eight warm-up Games, and then go directly into the playoffs. Which is you know? Everybody on on this call knows that the most intense level of basketball you could possibly play, and can you just going like in a normal situation? Go from the preseason to the playoffs. That's what essentially happening right now and so. So the risk, right risk factors. If you have any kind of any kind of lingering health issues, this could be something it. You know the League Work Nightmare could actually UNFO- where guys get seriously injured, because it's the place intense, I, mean think about Kevin Durant last year. Going straight from not playing for seven eight weeks to play in a highly intense game, ruptured his Achilles right there in the plan twelve minutes. I mean I'm not? I'm not saying that's going to happen but I'm saying when you go this long. Without playing competitive basketball five on five basketball jump right into the intensity I think everybody should be a little concerned and just hope that guys can survive without anything major happening. Does La Bra. Is Lebron have the most to lose? If the Lakers don't win from the standpoint? That next year eighteen they were rolling this year to the Lakers and playing well when Anthony Davis and the team they had up. And you just don't know as you go year this late and somebody's career, but to me this represents the best last chance for him to win and if they don't win. The title might be his last chance. Do you look at it that way for guy? You know approach your eighteen. I don't know if this is last year when a child, but I think it's. It's probably the his best chance to win why he's playing at this level and I think that's the one thing that you know I think a lot of the Lakers and You know people didn't. They didn't miss out on this opportunity because you don't get to play the one of the top three players. Players in the or whatever you want to rank him, you know at thirty, six thirty five thirty six years old. That just doesn't happen, and he's there and he has an opportunity to get a championship, so I think that he has to get it right now. because it's such a great opportunity. He's got an awesome team. He's playing with Anthony. Davis was in his prime was capable of. Of carrying him to possibly more championships, just this one. That's why I feel like even if he doesn't win this year if he stays there in Iran, you know if he takes a little notch down to the player, he'll chance to win. I mean Korean took the knocked down at the player, but magic carry them, but don't you think that there are other things that factor in as well? Well the warriors who get healthy, there's more competition. Brooklyn will have to stars and they'll be healthy. These guys are younger. The clippers have to starts at a much younger. Do you know so? That's why I say this year. Where where the warriors are down in Brooklyn's down, and you just have the clippers clippers box I think it only gets harder as you go on, not not easier. It easier. I'm just saying that I'm also patron. Ineffective Anthony Davis Inter in the prime of his career, and I think he's capable of doing things beyond this season, and Lebron is attached to him going forward even if he takes a little decline like a rapid decline I think you can still find talent around those two guys still win, but I feel like for Lebron. Play at this level where he could be the engineer, a champion leader, the finals VP. Caliber type player I think this is his last best chance to do that for sure. My in Washington, Bradley Bill of course, not going down to play in the bubble. Allotted teams interested in him. Brooklyn would like to get him. The Lakers would like to get him. I think it's going to be difficult to make a trade for him. What do you see kind of the future for Bradley? Beal where he doesn't want to leave, and the witches don't want to let them go and I think the fact that they don't want him to play these games. And they came up with the shoulder injury, and that saying it's not real but I. that. What are you using false medical records? What do you say Michael? What that this true? You see what saying. I I'd say I'm saying that you know yeah. I do I do, but I'm saying that like I'm sure that if if the witnesses had legitimate chance of making the playoffs, they weren't getting our eight games ago. I think he probably would be out there. Competing no matter what situation it shoulder is because he played. All those games to add thirty points a game this season, so I think that that was sort of. The agreement that the wizards him he made. You know so that they can move forward and and they. They know they're on the same page with each other like they support him wholeheartedly in in this effort to not on there and play, and I think that sort of you know symmetry between player team is indicative of the ratio today. Add and why they don't WanNa. Let him go and why? He's not interested in leaving right now because he's. He's in a situation what organizations going to do whatever can to protect his interest in his well being and I think that was a message to him, and also other players down the road that the wizards are a player from the organization, and we will take care of you and I think in the past. That hasn't always been the case, but I think that, with Brad sort of setting the tone now in the culture. That's GONNA. Be a place there you can see him leaving him being plucked away, it would be very difficult and the only way they'll know for sure what they have is when John. Wall comes back and to see what they can do with them together. If it looks like there's no hope with John Lobbying back, and he's not anything close to what he wants was I think then you're talking about that, but right now it's premature for the know Brad loves being in DC he doesn't. Doesn't WanNa leave and I think that's one of the things that sorta overlooked with a lot of these. This player movement with a Lotta guys who are like. Oh, I can't get it done here. I gotta go Brad like why do I have to be the one to leave in this situation? I would have to be the one. Why wouldn't we just get rid of everybody else? You keep building around me? And I think that's that's the attitude that he has. Might quickly, 'cause we. We gotta run it. We got about thirty seconds Max. There's been talk about demarcus cousins. Could you see the wizards trying to bring him in as a part of a big three with Wall and Bradley? Well sibling relationship in something that he and John WanNa do for since left Kentucky easily see that happening in knowing that relationship that he and John. Have I mean I know that he would want to do. He's he's long wanted to play with John and his long play in DC. One thing a lot of people don't know is before he was even drafted. He worked out in DC. That's where he spent his summers, and so he loves that area in you know he and John like. Taking. Their right there. All right. My guys senior NBA writer for. Of NFL talk. Tabasco? Weight is shut. down. Mark. How do you know how you know? She's the one you just know. Right thank US why I'm divorced is. My piece. I take care. Easier to score in today's NBA than ever before, find out next on the Dan Patrick Show Fox sports radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports radio DOT, com and within the iheartradio APP search. F. S. are to listen live. Oh, Joe, Elliott on the ones and twos bring. It is the I couple. If there Patrick I can picture a young Rob Parker 'cause see that song is your heyday. I can picture young Rob Parker out. There pleaded baggy pants. Couple parts in his hair flat top. You already know the. Now I don't doubt about. Jesus you saw on Instagram that picture of me and Nancy Lieberman. School are put into. Buckets on the what you sent me. Yes, you know Instagram I didn't see Nancy Lieberman. I got to look at that. I saw the picture. You sit me yet. You can't see it because I'm dominating her going over her to score the bathroom eleven to one. No, it wasn't one. That was your only Basque. Scored a basket of the game at it was forty real quick. Chris was one of I was on the radio wd fed in Detroit, and we broadcast the game against me and Nancy. It was like a whole big deal. And one of this host Jamie. Samuelsen was update guy. He Bet me twenty dollars that I wouldn't score against her. That would that was the bet. He said you won't even score. Why scored the first basket of the game? Chris looked at a referee call timeout and went over the Jamie Samuelsen and put out my hand and said give me my twenty on. Like I'm not going to score, really does a win for you. Favorite Nancy was great. Yes, yes, she could ball. There's no down the hall of favor Great Great Person Yes. But speaking of a hall of fame, Kenny Smith not a hall of Famer, but it was a very good player, won two championships with the Houston Rockets and played a critical role in those championships, and even more, so he's really established himself rob in his post. Playing career is a great broadcaster on TNT with with Ernie Johnson and Charles Barkley and now shack I mean it's Kim He's been great. You know he's at a tremendous post playing career. And he says something. He was on a podcast recently. He's at a lot of things, but one thing he said is. Not. This is not even where we're going. But he said in his all time top ten players. Kobe Bryant is in the top ten. And Lebron James is number ten. He didn't really name the full ten. I think Oscars in their. Larry Bird Magic Jordan. Of course, but one thing can he say and this was part of his reasoning for those guys? Not being ranked higher was that he said is so easy to score in today's NBA. He had a couple of years with two years where he averaged seventeen points a game one with the Sacramento Kings one with the Houston Rockets, and he said the year with the kings average seventeen. He said to in today's NBA that. That would have been about twenty five or twenty six points a game, and so he say saying these guys, the numbers James Harden and and Steph Curry, and all these guys that are putting up these crazy numbers. Be careful. I guess he's even including Lebron James. Because the bras numbers are astronomical. He saying be careful. The defenses lacks the floor. Court is spread. The three point line is so much more prominent, and they're putting up ten shot ten threes game. Some guys, some guys, even more hard like eleven twelve thirteen threes a game. Also backup on these numbers and where you feel, what do you think about that? Is this a legitimate point? He's making or do you think he's Kinda out there? No I don't think he's out there. I think there's a different dollar game, and and when you, when you look at other people and you look at numbers. You know when you look at even Chris the big goal. When he averaged a triple double right, we're not point shot. Do you know what I mean like like? There's a difference you don't think I think that that's a legitimate that he was able to do that without the three ball I mean. So so the way that they defend in the way they play. We all saw the Michael Jordan right a documentary Chris. Did you see the way Michael? Jordan was treated by the Pistons in the Knicks in the pay. Did you see flagrant foul? Did you see where they couldn't touch him? I mean needs a reality bright. Kennedy Smith ridiculous or a sounds like. Hey, you kids get off my lawn, guy. I don't. It's a different game. That's all know it is easier to score. Let's face it. It's easier to score especially for guards, because there is no handshaking and there really aren't that many rim protectors and the floor is spread out, so you beat your one man at the perimeter. You know you can get to the lane and you're not gonNA. Have the type of. Attention. You had in the paint Jordan. Jordan would get not just Jordan Dr J. Any of the guys in that eighties and nineties when you got to the rim. You had to know how to finish A. Six or seven guys? It was incredible, and now one or two guys are in the pain. I'm not taking anything away from these guys because Steph Curry's an all time great hard, and all these guys, but it is easier to score. Kinney was right about that I keep it locked Chris, rob.

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An Opportunity To Educate

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An Opportunity To Educate

"Good morning boomer. How are you good morning? You know you wnba player and be at the IMG. Academy down there and have bedbugs in God that. They got bigger problems there to look at all of this stuff is. It's crazy. It's crazy. What's going on our crazy? What's going on in in football right now? It's crazy. What's going on with the Sean Jackson and Stephen Jackson? Who follows him up in just even more offensive and appalling? I I don't know how to explain it other than like a support of. deshaun. Jackson's initial tweeting yesterday you and I were talking about this towards the end of the show and we had a caller. Calvin who is a Holocaust survivor? Relative. And He wanted us to read what Sean Jackson had tweeted out and when I first opened it and I, read it I I couldn't believe that an NFL football player would would put something like that out there. I couldn't believe it. I read it. It was so repulsive and it made me so sick to my stomach I thought he was going to say maybe his. You. Know His instagram account or twitter account. Whatever was was had. Wanted to hear something like that I didn't know. I'm Mike the fact that he attributes this particular quote. Hitler which it wasn't and and puts Hitler's name in just. The offensive nature of it, and you could hear it in our caller, yes, or the the guy that did call towards the end of the show and I just want to say to him I don't WanNa, say to Jewish listeners out there. I was embarrassed yesterday and we didn't really get into it because we didn't have time to get into it. We didn't really even know about it. We're talking about other things and all of a sudden. This pops up and I really wanted to know exactly what the Sean was thinking about because sure. It was so repulsive in so repugnant I just I just couldn't wrap my head around it and the fact that he doesn't realize, or does it know who Hitler is? And the fact that six million Jewish people were exterminated by the Nazis in nineteen, thirty, three to nineteen forty-five. What are you thinking about? How do you? How does how does somebody have that? I come to mind as a thirty three year old professional football player I can't even explain even an eighteen year old high school football player I I can't explain it at all you know and. It's so repulsive that I was just. I couldn't sleep last night thinking about this and then on top of all of that. Comes a guy who like. Who We've had on we, it look I haven't talked to anybody. CBS Viacom or anybody you know he works for the same company we do. We've had on. We like them and it does a good job with a Matt Barnes and their show. But for him, the come out. Before. Sean Jackson even get an apology out there. And start ripping into the NFL racist owners and going and supporting the Sean Jackson never apologize for this. is, even more embarrassing. What. See here's here's what they need to do. They need to get on a frigging airplane and they need to fly. To Auschwitz and go see what it looks like and feel it I've been doc I. Know what it feels like I. Know What it looks like and I know what am I. Know See this is. This is the thing when you see Racism Anti Semitism you see it live. It just repulses you much like the killing of George Floyd repulsed everybody and made Stephen. Jackson, a household name across this country, and he became somebody who had a story who had a story to tell who wanted to tell a story about his friend. Came with great credibility and a personality to be i. mean he had everything going for him? And then pulls this yesterday I mean. How could anybody support that? No all right a couple of things one. I I had to watch that Steven Jackson a couple of times to actually believe that he was saying what he was saying. I could not understand for the life of me where the hell he was coming from, and I thought to myself. Is it actually possible that Deshaun Jackson and Stephen Jackson? Don't know who Hitler was I. Really Thought that, and maybe they don't. And that's not an excuse, either but how in the hell. Can One person does Sean Jackson Post that quote and Steven Jackson come out and say that he was speaking the truth. And Steven Jackson did a ton of great work that was admirable right after the death of George Floyd and said stuff which was I really loved his phrase. You know a love for people who have love for all all love for people have love all. And that was his message, and now all of a sudden. He's taken a left turn into extreme anti-semitism. Now I feel like everything that he said prior to that that I was with him on has been a raced because it doesn't mean anything if you've got that type of hate in your heart. So maybe it's a big misunderstanding. What this is about and they need to learn. But how is that possible? How is that possible? Jackson also said in there that you know. He's a part of the big three and they have a Jewish owner. He gets what we're talking about. What does that even mean wh? That's what I'm saying, but that's like doubling down on this thing. And then all of a sudden that post has gone, and then he put something else up there and I'm. I'm like I understand he is under an enormous amount of pressure again. I know it, and I know he's emotionally involved in this whole thing. He was thrust into the middle of this thing out of the blue, and he basically hit the ground running, and I could just imagine all the support he was receiving. You know behind the scenes from a lot of different people from companies. You know you name it and and all of a sudden this comes. I just I just. So hard to believe that there's so much hate in somebody's heart like this that you could say that. Support with the Sean Jackson did yesterday. Yeah, now here's the thing when you see a racist act like we saw in Minneapolis. It is ugly, and it just brings up so much emotion, and it just brings people back to. The beginning of this country, and what the Hell! We all went through or what they went through back then. What we're reliving now and the emotion is is serious, and that's why I say that when I've been in locker rooms and I've worked with powerful black men on CBS I've been to lighten to the issues that they've always brought to the table in discussions and open and honest discussions and I'm thankful for that and I'm thankful for understanding that much like. I try to learn as much as I could about the Holocaust, because my dad fought in World War Two. I wanted to learn. That's why went there. That's why I want to Normandy. That's why every time I go to Hawaii. Go to USS Arizona's memorial. That's why when I'm down. In. Washington, DC, I visit the the Memorial Museum Holocaust. Memorial museum down there. I just. It's like what is happening. What is happening? The people that make them do this? And this is again. I go back to the point where you see the Racist Act. It's disgusting. It's disturbing and everybody hates it and everybody from from the NFL on down everywhere else. I can even imagine we're was disgusted by what we all saw that video that eight minute and forty, six forty six second video. We hated it. And that and that cops going to get and he's going to get. Whatever he's GonNa get and he's. He's being held accountable, which is important and then there's work to be done after that according to Stephen. Jackson and Hall Whole Group of people that's their. That's their work. That's what they feel like. They WANNA do. That's fine, but to somehow double down on what the Sean Jackson said yesterday. I don't know what's going to happen with the Sean Jackson, but here's the thing Philadelphia's had its runnings inside. It's issues with some of its players. Like many organizations have had now. They had the issue with Riley Cooper and if you remember if I remember correctly Michael Vick was coming out of jail is playing football for the Philadelphia Eagles. On a second chance if you will when he was trying to get us life in order, and I think he was like you know like the adult in the room. That kinda calmed everybody down, and gave Riley Cooper a second chance, and then they gave him a contract extension. It's the Jackson even mentions him. Yeah, and that whole thing and like I like the Philadelphia Eagles Insane. Anything of people didn't react to it. Everybody reacted to a much like we reacted to the George Floyd. Floyd killings yet that was that was. Something is another part of that post where he he made? It seem like Riley Cooper got a contract extension because he used a racial slur. That's what Stephen Jackson made it out there. This guy uses the N. word. And then he got a contract extension. It's not how it worked. That's not the way it went down, but I don't know just showing Jackson I don't know a thing about him. He might be completely ignorant. He might be dumber. Dumber than a box of hair. He might be just really really stupid. I don't know anything about the thing that personally made me upset. Yesterday was the fact that I. We met and talked to Steven Jackson a number of times on and off the air, and he was someone who I really believed was was intelligent. He was someone who understood history. He was someone who's out there to do good in the world. He was someone who's GonNa. Make a mark in the media industry he. He was someone who went through a bunch of stuff in his life and came out better because of eight he was someone who is going to able to be able to help younger people from a position of experience. These are things I believed about Steven Jackson and that got a race yesterday. In that post it did now. I'm not saying that the people aren't allowed redemption. But when he said what he said in that post, it's like the guy that we came to new. Disappeared completely disappeared, and it was hard for me to take anything that he had said previously seriously because he said that Sean. Jackson spoke the truth. I mean that was so upset. It was upsetting to think that the thing about is so. We knew Steven Jackson before George. Floyd we don't know Stephen Jackson after George Floyd so he. Has Changed and he's obviously extremely angry, and that angry came to the forefront, so antisemitism is right in our face, and just like the racism is in our face, and it's ugly, and it's emotional and it and it hurts people, and you could feel it I felt it yesterday when we got off the air, and I knew it, and then going into all of this and reading this and listening to this, I couldn't sleep last night because I knew where we're GONNA, end up talking about it today and we're gonNA. End Up spending a lot of time on it and I know we're GONNA get a bunch of calls about it here. Here's my thoughts in in terms of. Jackson and what his future as he liked, Riley. Cooper gotTA show contrition. He has got to do everything that he possibly can to try to save. What's left of his career if he can play and I know they're going to be people out there. Say Get rid of him. Don't want them play. I, understand and that's fine but I. Think this is for all of us. It's another example of just how? Like out of touch we can be at times about things. Yeah, and he's got show contrition. He's got to learn and I know that his agents and I know how you've Rosement I know Jeff Lurie I all of these guys. Who are Jewish are all trying to help him figure out what the Hell's going on here and I just don't know how much pressure will be put on the Philadelphia Eagles in this case I mean they stood bringing Michael Vick you know who ran a dog killing operation out of jail, and they made and their starting quarterback. Dan, they had the Riley Cooper situation where he is uttering the N. Word at a concert at country concert of all things right now. They got this, so they've been down this road before. They've had controversy around them where they have handled it. I I just don't know the pressure, and it's really gonNA come down to Sean Jackson as far as Stephen. Jackson is concerned I. Think what we now see is somebody who is extremely angry, affected by his friend's death, and all the things in his mind that has led up to this point through his life. So and now we see it for what it's worth, and that's really disappointing. That is, that is really disappointing. Yeah, mean. It's when you say. It's up to Sean. Jackson and. And how he handles this I mean that's that is very true. Because in the beginning, you're the first thing he said. Was You guys took it the wrong way? And it's not what I meant, and that that is just as bad as response. You could possibly have now though there was another apology, and he has spoken to leaders Jewish leaders in the Philadelphia community, and he is apparently going to join him the one at the the rabbi at the Holocaust Museum and be educated now. He's educated if he learns. If this was pure ignorance, which is not an excuse you know, then he can get to a point in his life. Where maybe this is something that he can look back on and say wow Y. my brain was in horrible place I didn't know enough. I was totally ignorant and now I'm enlightened to the fact that it's changed my life. Let's let's that that's what we can hope for I know there's some people that are not going to accept any of that, and that's and that's okay, too. It is at, but you know if. If you are to Sean Jackson. That's what you have to do, and you're not going to win back. Everybody because what you posted. was that offensive it was that horrible, and you can't expect everybody to to just accept you back in because you have now learned about things that you should have already known about and shouldn't have touched in any sort of way on social media or any other way in your life well, there was a letter that was pen to Sean Jackson by ninety four year, old Holocaust survivor, and his name is Edward Mos Berg and he. Sent the letter to Jackson and. He invited him to visit with him. To a Nazi death camp. Even call it a concentration camp death camp because that's what they were and to help him understand how his life was changed, and how many people he lost in his life, and how he survived in came to this country, and where it's was able to build a new life because people came to save him. You know and we forget all these things you know and I heard Alan Jerry this morning. Talking about September Twenty, a September eleventh twenty twenty one is GonNa be mets or Yankees at Matt's and Twenty Years Since nine eleven and I was thinking yesterday after the show is thinking. Maybe we should just all Kinda like wake up one morning like we did. The day after nine eleven and all take souls in the fact that we're all still here, and we live in the greatest country in the world, and you know what it's it's. It's the most diverse it's. It's the safest. It's the best place to make a living life for oneself and Mr Mossberg basically pin that the Sean Jackson for that. I'm grateful and hopefully Sean, we'll learn. And hopefully he'll be able to continue his career assuming that he goes about it the right way which look I I can't even imagine what he feels like this morning, but I feel like this. I can't imagine how he feels. Yeah I. Mean It's and and unfortunately you know we're. We're at a another situation here where you know. An athlete with a big platform ended up doing something that is upset. A lot of people and it's just there's sometimes. You got you got two sides of this right like there's sometimes I say to myself like. Like why in the hell? Are. We even caring? What someone as as as Dome is? That would could post something like that. Why do we even care what he has to say because he's that stupid? But it is important. Garrity has to say because it's an opportunity for education. That's what it is, and that's when I stopped myself when I say I mean this guy is clearly a functioning moron to be able to do something like this so. We should just toss it in the in the garbage and forget about it, but no, you can't do that. What it provides is an opportunity for education for him and maybe others who had no idea. The, which is crazy me. Is that possible that there are? There's a generation or there's people that don't understand what happened in Nazi Germany. Is that even a possibility? Because and this is why this? The caller yesterday said read what he said or what he wrote, and like I couldn't read. It I couldn't get the words. Just I could not patriots saying basically broadcasting hate speech is what is. Seen in my stomach reading it and I know why he wanted us to read it. Because, he wanted us to read it because he wanted everybody to hear it. So we all hear what Anti Semitism is because that's what they dealt with back in the thirties, and even before that and they're still dealing, and it's still dealing with that just. Yet based like right just like. The the black people in this country are still dealing with it as well. Yes Yup, and we get it. We get it I. I just I just the the whole. A whole Stephen, Jackson thing is just so upsetting. I'd invite them on I, would and I'd ask him I'd ask direct questions. And I would not want to get entangled into something else. Yeah, because it's not about something else, it's about what you said about the Sean Jackson about the NFL and doubling down on and basically making accusations that are not true. Yeah, I know I. I thought about 'cause. You just said before there was a Stephen Jackson before George. George Floyd after your most of the stuff that Stephen Jackson was saying even after George Floyd I understood and I it. Was You know? I. Don't know this this to me was A. Look into his mind that I never thought I'd see I really not that I knew him for years not that we were best friends in college, roommates or anything, but I felt like from what I saw publicly from him what I privately from him that he wasn't capable of that thought process I really believe that. The other sick part of all of this. There's probably people that support that that officer up there that killed George Floyd shelvin right. There's probably people out there that actually support him. That's how sick some people can be and I guarantee you that there are people that support Stephen Jackson's actions and Sean Jackson's actions in this case. I guarantee you that there are their fringe elements that are out there. That are are pushing. The hate. When we wake up, put it. It's it's tiring is why you know when we have nothing to do, and there's no sports out there and we get involved in all these different things away from. The field and the court and the ice and everything else. We ended up stepping in IT and boy. I'll tell you what. We've all in at from time to time, but this thing that the Sean Jackson Stephen Jackson stepped in is huge. I mean it is. It's about as it's about as offensive in reprehensible as a get from from the spoken word point of view. Yeah I mean I know. I know just showing Jackson has made some efforts now since that that post I mean Stephen Jackson done anything since that I know is that. Is it deleted that thing or is it still his thing is his. His thing is the leded. But Stephen Jackson did come back out with another and I'll find it for you. He came out. Let's see another thing here does. Domain concern. Your races pain doesn't hurt more than the next races pain. Don't act like you're hardships or more devastating than ours. and You wonder why we fighting for equality commonsense ain't common truth hurts never waste time explaining to people who never supported you anyway. Free Game. Yeah I. Mean that that essentially to me is. Someone told me to take this post down, but I never wanted to. So I'm GonNa, give you this. That's what that says to me, right? Is that you see that any other way I I. Am Not going to tell me what I said was wrong. Because I'm not I'm not giving in right. I. That's what it sounds like to me, but again I don't know if. I. You know I don't know if. Change that significantly after the death of George, Floyd it's. It's obviously impacted him significantly. I know that I know that because I've seen him, but he's like you said. Most of his messages have been great. But this thing supporting the Sean Jackson. And accusing the NFL OF BEING RACIST He lost me. They're lost a lot of people there. They lost a lot of a lot of people. He lost a lot of his supporters with with this, and it seems like he's not backing down. Which is which is very unfortunate. All right boomer and Geo on the fan CBS sports network in radio DOT COM. Come right back with Jerry RECCO update plenty more for you. 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Around the Horn

11:17 min | 4 months ago

Don't Press Send

"Israel Gutierrez Pablo Tori, L. Dunkin thanks for being here seventy two hours since the Sean Jackson Dan. Then multiple explanations whether you accept them as a policies is of the story how the Eagles NFL one fellow NFL players responded and did not respond part of this story, and how the eagles punishment should go fine release or that strongly-worded statement enough. I'll have you consider how the franchise dealt with Riley Cooper and the N.. Word years ago. The lack of response players is a little intriguing especially not to compare it to just to consider how the League responded, that drew brees recently and also today news of the day. Steven Jackson in responding and support saw Jackson furthering with antisemitic comments as a whole lot to get through public tour your. Yeah I start from the fact that I was just watching on instagram. Live Stephen, Jackson stand up for comments that the Sean Jackson has already begun to walk back into Sean Jackson there's this question of his malice. Is it incompetence? How could you possibly quote Hitler or fake Hitler? And that was fine, but Stephen Jackson what he's doing must be condemned in the clearest possible terms. He's trafficking and insanely bigoted textbook anti-semitism. He's talking about the conspiracy about Jewish people running all of the banks in the world. He's going down that mode of thought and the reason it's heartbreaking. Is that simply because he is feeding a? A strain of true bigotry that resulted in the genocide of a population of people it's also heartbreaking because Stephen Jackson Tony has been at the center of the most impactful development in race relations in America the century. This is George Floyd's twin. This is a man who has fought for legitimate causes, and so the fact that he is now going to go down this road, and seemingly stand on it that to me speaks to so much awful about America right now, including the next phase of this, which is people pointing at him and discrediting the things that he actually stands up for that are in fact legitimate. Fears your view of right and taking this back to Sean Jackson. Started, this, and this whether you believe it or not, and I tend to believe Sean Jackson was ignorant. It was naievety that he didn't really recognize what he was reading or what it meant, but you put that out there and then Stephen Jackson has his response and doubles down on his response and now look what happened as Pablo just mentioned. You can't de-legitimize him now, because the George Floyd connection. Connection and now you just say Stephen. Jackson sounds like somewhat of a crazy person who is not an inclusive person who does not welcome everybody, and it begins with the Sean. Jackson, and his post, and so now you wonder what the NFL has to do what the eagles have to do, and frankly they haven't set a precedent on something like this in the past. You mentioned the Riley, Cooper. Saying the N. were Tony, and he was soon after that contract extension, and so is this the point in this time in this climate that we raised that bar and say Sean Jackson. That was despicable. That was unacceptable. Look what you've begun therefore. Hey, we can't have you as part of our organization anymore. Is that the time I? Don't know if that's the time, but if they decide that, it is the time I'm perfectly okay. Ignorance is no excuse. It's something we've said on this show before in the past and other stories. It's something we all believe. Initially. When this story first came out, I, this was beyond ignorance for me. On the Sean Jackson's part I was so lost the deep recesses up the Internet. And now we're seeing a chorus in support of him, and that's why this conversation is so important and we're back at it. Today L. Dunkin. You're incredible yesterday in your in your thoughts about how this is. A teachable moment has to be more than that, and also you said there is no hierarchy to bigotry, racism, sexism and anti-semitism. And I want to ask you to you this way today. We haven't heard from NFL players like we heard from NFL players in the past, condemning Sean, Jackson and I. Want Your view of that. Yeah I mean I think it's because there's a PA- pension to want to protect your own, and not speak out against your own community, and I'm certainly experiencing some of that right now because I do have an outpouring of support, if particular might my Jewish friends and colleagues that are saying, thank you for saying something, but also from some black people who were saying like how dare you publicly? Shame another black man. You're a clown and I think that it would feel hypocritical. I have for the last few months. You guys been imploring my white and Brown and. And other communities, imploring them to not stand silent in the face of oppression and inequality and racism. I have been asking them to be allies to be vocal allies, and to then on one hand. Ask people to do that for the cause of the defect, my community, black people, and then to say absolutely nothing when someone dehumanizes an entire other community is hypocritical, and and frankly it's wrong, and that's the point. Is that the second that disenfranchised communities understand that we are not each other's enemies that we collectively are in this fight together that there is no more offensive or less offensive, or you've got a better. You've got a better because until we all have good. None of us have a good. The great thing about facts they're proven. By, the fact that crude oil contains impurities with their base, oil, made from natural gas is ninety nine point five percent free of impurities. And the fact that pennzoil is the first synthetic motor oil made from natural gas, not crude oil. It gives you unbeatable engine protect. The proof is in the pennzoil. Based on sequence for using sap five W. Thirty. Ask Fort at Jiffy, Lube. It's your home. Speaking and I need you to do me. A couple of favors I could get that blueberry that rolled under the fridge last week. It's throwing my funk. hsi-wei off second thing, bundle your home and car insurance with GEICO. It's easy, and we could save money. Lastly I know. You're thinking of painting the nursery back to off white, but I'm actually feeling. This baby blue didn't think it was my color, but I m pulling it off, Gyco for bundling made easy. Go to GEICO. Dot Com today. Thank you for saying that L. token came across rail post in Players Tribune. Recently about a trip he made to Auschwitz and how he made all of his. MBA needs go to the Holocaust Museum in Washington C. With them whenever they went to a trip. Rudy to play the wizards and I pass it on to you today. He's talking about universal experience of humanity, urine and everything that that. has come across in the last two days unbelievable. We'll move on one more story though I wanNA. Get your take on. Today. WNBA how they responded to dream owner, Kenny Kelly Leffler, her denial and opposition to black lives matter. And the WMBA responded by saying. They have seen her being active owner in the day to day in the last nine months Israel. What position is the WNBA and right now? I think the WB actually has to do something about this has to find a way to get leffler away from from the Atlanta Dream I mean that league is full of intelligent progressive women that are fighting the Rhone individual fights, and then to have somebody with co owner in their title essentially say hey, you don't matter enough for me for me to fight for you to have this symbol of black lives. Matter on the court is something that I not only. Do not want on there. It comes across his her being offended by it. Leffler and we've seen a lot of hypocrisy in her words. We've seen it in her actions, and it's just when you have this. Many of the women in the wnba speaking up something has to be done. We're supposed to be outing. People who speak in codes or who have these hypocritic. Hypocritical axe right now, and this is clearly one of them. L. Dunkin. Yeah, listen. You are allowed to say and believe whatever you want to. She can believe that black lives matter movement is a terrorist organization, and she can believe that Lgbtq community should not have the same rights as people who are heterosexual and she can believe that. Legally caring black folks with with guns is a mob, but that does not mean that she gets the privilege of then profit off of those exact same communities that she would try to keep her foot on their neck period. It's a private situation here. They can kick her out of the League in the same way that kicked Donald Sterling out of the League for the exact same thing freedom of speech, not freedom from consequence. Public Orey, yeah. This feels like a higher up person. A person of great political power, great financial power, trolling the women in the WNBA and it seems pretty transparent that this is part of political gamesmanship. By the way, this is someone who is a part of a political movement that trolls as a matter of course, and so when you take those athletes athletes who have been by the way underestimated and overlooked in terms of their impact on the movement. We've been describing the WNBA has been a leader. Leader in this way wearing I can't breathe shirts in Minnesota. Before all of this, my a more stepping away from her job to free someone who was wrongfully imprisoned to take those women and ask them to swallow quite frankly. The trash being spouted by Kelly Leffler is offensive, and by the way we haven't even mentioned the insider trading scandal during the endemic that she made news for before all of this even happened so I think the WNBA has a very clear path year and involves her exit. Hello. This is your apartment I need some favors from you. Your cat keeps rubbing against the kitchen island and I can't return the favor. Can you give her extra pets for me after that? 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Hour 2: Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson join

The Stephen A. Smith Show

38:41 min | 1 year ago

Hour 2: Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson join

"Ooh Stephen a Smith show here with you over the NASA was of ESPN radio ESPN news. Two hundred fifty plus markets across the United States of America check your am FM listing near a shoe this is this even a Smith Show podcast day welcome tower number two week episode episode one drops tomorrow just a real raw uncut an edited version of our take on sports life culture seven to nine three seven seven six to Stephen Smith show on ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance celebrating seven years and over seven hundred cars donated of debt now speaking of that and we'll get back into the park has a little bit more little bit later but in the interest of honesty What the hell did I see last night well let me say this I love how you say you know the real because to be quite honest with you the level of honesty that both of you have always given me throughout the years that's why I've always has when authentic dude that I ever covered in all my years covering the NBA The one and only Matt Bonds Stephen Jackson as well both champions by the way Golden State San Antonio Family everything's affects us yeah it's a little scratching sound I'm GonNa keep on talking mixed mixed I for me all right exactly was done I think we're number two trinite on apple right now for sports podcast so we're trying to get to the I've got to admit I thought about doing sports pocket I'm still take about oof isn't a pencil it is my honor and privilege to do the next hour this radio show I mean I have brothers calling me out conversation about it to go on on live and talking about sports and giving that raw paying too ended up showtime has been a blessing I think having guys like you y'all kind of scared because I like to be number one talk about a little bit Stephen From your from your perspective it's been a blessing I think From Sydney the veterans learn more at keys to Prague Dot Com also prep you in jail for winter with pennzoil synthetic motor oil the first motor all made from natural gas not crude oil the not to be Superman and a d tried it but he just didn't have it last night and you there's no way you can have a guy like Casey people twenty seven minutes and don't score like that yeah you know like I said I it's great to team up Jack Again post career On this and some that we really enjoy we have fun doing it we're just getting started so we appreciate all the support that we love people and we talk about a lot of topics so we just want to show Duda shoulder right way and everybody respected and get what they want and that's the real per month and we're gonNA give it to them well I let's see y'all man how y'all don't think long overdue may glad to be here well first of all before I do anything else I want y'all telework got a podcast right talk about that I'm going to get to that in just a few minutes but the first thing I want to do is talk to Y'all about your podcast just a little bit before we get into that a little bit later talk about that all the smoke we just lost for showtime last wall when it came to your damn teammates and your and your contemporaries if you had to check with some honest you just never ever hesitated so happened but it was really interested me you had dogs out there and you had cats the dogs won the game last night the clippers came they fought they scratch the use me you must have forgot who the hell I am that is not what happened I'm going to start you Stephen Jackson what the hell did I say I didn't see that either I think he he wanted role and honest slice and dice you but you're actually make people feel good about it. We saw the first game of the season to me my whole narrative this summer was the clippers more complete team or a team that has better chemistry from the RIP 'cause they're only adding two new player a country okay crazy he comes he comes to La and he doesn't tip toe paved the way and other people I think is is the main reason why we didn't start to show off just smoking so to be respected because our opinion should be respected because we come from an honest place and we really love the game on here's where I'm at with this Kawhi Leonard is a superstar a champion in NBA Finals Mvp. Who Left I have this dance podcasts at Y'all's right now let me tell you what it is this do cats adults you you come from the intellectual perspective ah players what their identity is going to be they loaded up a lot I would like to see them a little bit more creative as far as the way they give him the ball with dribble handoff pick and pop screens they kind of dropped for the whole time and let anyone WanNa play off them so I just think Lebron was was a little more passive which kind of threw him out of his rhythm but I think he just wanted to see what he was going to get what they D and how the team was I thought I was GonNa say I thought I was go see the K. K. James Show up and put a halt to Kawai to some degree by saying is they can't they can't count on him having twenty I think I think Adrian Brodie every Bradley finding his identity obviously Rondo coming back coups coming back they're still a work in progress let me say this person the Lakers are adding thirteen players plus a whole new coaching staff and trying to figure the situation and what I saw from Lebron last night was just more of trying to figure out what they're still to me if Anthony Davis NPR MVP contention at the end the season I think the Lakers played their season right because Lebron is not gonna be able to carry them an seventy one came in with the attitude of Oh yeah I think in the leg we gonna lay down to the Lakers and Lebron ad no we got dogs becoming a scratch and we went we fight to win this game and they took it you're good no one have a problem with this because this has been my whole knock on the Brown says he'd been in the League you don't have that Kobe in them that dog in like you is this for quickly we'll get into some of that before I got I got I got Utah last night I'm just very upset to April for the first time nine years this is the first time we've seen you since April and your answer to deferred Anthony Davis does react to it by the way y'all can take your headphones off I got the call relaxed without the help us but let me say this to you see see here's the problem and it's a good problem but here's the problem Western Conference finals? I just think the Lakers are going to be a work in progress I think they're going to win some gains Bhai thirty they're gonNA lose some close games it's going to be up and down and they can't really green can't get twenty eight L. A. First thing he does say you want me get Paul George if you don't get Paul George I'm going to the Lakers did that Toronto I did he did it to the clippers then he says okay you know what here's the deal get Paul George and then he gets Paul George they got the new balance commercial he talking each get a good balance I think we play off each other world but like I said it's the first game and obviously this is a hyped matchup this to me is still going to be the yeah what did it no America these are two of my brothers here you understand you understand two of the most honest Jenny Here's where I am about what I witnessed last night from the Bronx Disdain Clippers first of all clip is a better team there deeper team they're better defense it's his seventeenth opening night you know what I mean so like I said I think we're going to work this this La Battle the whole year and it's going to be hot and cold back and forth but I just need bigger picture but he can't do it by himself the whole season but what about opening night you can't do Friday against Utah the opening night against tells going to be tough too it's a mad love and support for your because Y'all always on if you can't say something you don't say kiss you ain't GonNa lie antibody and you're going to give you gonNA give it to them straight and I know how y'all let's be real he looked tired after dropped seventy four it was and like I said I think he's filling his teammates out obviously he came he shot nineteen shots I just think they weren't in his normal rhythm because I said they slow the ball down and tried to load up and see what they had what do the clippers having them considering the fact that they did what they did with out holiest channels in that locker room and they got they put them in a Kennel after and they let him go I believe that but I believe the Lakers was going to relieve leg is going to find it because I got I think that that that dynamic door all right can overcome the better team having said all of that Oh from game one and this has always been the knock on the Bra. He don't have that that Kobe that dog in is year seventeen marathon man you know I'm like I was hired for that game and I knew I wouldn't even plan but to be they would so gorgeous Hawaii play at staples center against the clippers like that game you should've let everything hang you should have been in the playoffs Lina now you change your mind I thought you had the Lakers on this I said they have better players legs got better players to better stars to have more dogs I think the Broncos are probably took it over even with my own he could do what he had to do to get that team to win but to me I just think he's always kind of sitting back observe why the situation by because he knows Matt you just understand but I just see like I said I still talk to a double by the way volt Kevin Durant was healthy I'd be saying Kevin Question I agree with you I'm on the same page we'll right now to me he's the most effective defensive player one on one locked down in the most efficient offense he is the best player on both sides of the ball the most effective player on both sides of all from shooting percentages to shot selection to the only thing that to me that the broncos betters get his teammates I can not only that then he's in the navy said this is a town now both for the game the news what are we to make of the fact that Lebron James wasn't really seen guarding Kawhi let it does that mean anything to you I mean the fact that you're seventeen like we were fortunate enough to play fourteen we know how we felt and all that kind of stuff towards the end of our career light he's seventeen years with shine the way we were oh came out open a tablet get todd I'm going to say for the top but if after Kawagoe gives it to you in the second quarter we have a problem with mentally and physically draining oh coming in the season saying that they were going to be you know leading the League in one of the top defensive players in the league I thought I would see him taking a check in the channel right he's going to set the tone and everybody else following it's going to be real scared with PG whether you want to call the best player in the world or not I know Dallas you with that roster list of meat we set the tone defensively for the starting group to me they had great everything starts at the top rate Ownership Rate Management Doc just coaching which he's great and then you add to selfless superstars to team it's already in the recipe and that's why I think a lot of us have picked him to win the championship this year Matt Barnes Steven Jackson Right here it was stephen a espn radio espn they just me or should there be a problem with the fact that and if you look broad days or opening night who ended the season in April Lebron where he drove spot and mantras he turned to hit mantras with a elbow is laid it up so he can do that there's no replay he just don't have it in they worry about what people are saying because if that was the case out have been doing that a long time ago ours said about me speaking of ours Lebron at this point no I have probably on this podcast from La Right so yeah in this time around you know La let me ask you let me ask you a question any time Patrick bellies deleting dog and he says the tone he says I'm a guard Lebron Cohen Garden Right I'm pickup four court first game of the season all games player to me whether you want to call them the best player not is up to you other than that you know you got to your best players coming off the bench the bench strength for them Louis mantras hero set the tone Patrick auty just kidney your face coming at you and Nelson they cover for you you do not know I don't recall that that doesn't make us go ahead it was it was so why am I gonNa know if I'm liberal why right now maybe later in the season off because he's younger and he's got that motor still is fine he could do that I'm just saying yeah we takin over this ain't shutout I got the crowd and I'm the reigning in the NBA Finals Mvp your day is Olga are we to make nothing of the Fan taught standard town brothers clearly coming for you see the way I've got to get on here 'cause I don't recall any at this cat is clearly coming for you and you're sitting here telling us about the big picture eight that part of the big thing we paying attention when I'm a man and I've seen you do that to a lot of people you know some gods they nice they got skewing pretty and you're like wait a minute and let guys the star but he's finesse going up against heroin fragile that physicality it was like he said you got me skill wise it is a role for me to pay attention or to provide a heightened level of sensitivity to the fact that you got a stall yeah so you know what I mean but to me it's the bigger picture for him and they got to figure out the team with their identity this am I wrong now first of all y'all gonna be that's in town saying and he's backed by company because you know new balance is trying to make noise Nike and and they are unapologetic about trying to say I said that the ADC libra that's true well it wasn't Lebron it was a d I'm not going to Goto I but I'm not figure skill but he soft you know what I mean and I I wouldn't I really liked the way he took it to him but I completely understand what you're saying when trail started putting that would on him he took eighty out of his game you know what I have I have to say Lebron I wouldn't be paying attention to it because I think the bigger picture I'm confident and competent enough to know what I need to do what we need to go who's the biggest threat to the Lakers clippers injury but outside about I know injuries given but teams Hewlett in ice can help but that's beautiful during the regular season it's a youth is beautiful during the racing you need experience down the stretch and that's what I love the Lakers have a bunch of proven veteran players proven champ stuck in my day we not duck but I don't really call that duck and to me it's just like for what you know was gay and I feel all the high excitement around it and they knew you were gonNA come for them the next day one of the top three best players in the legal team in the world you know what I'm saying I know I have to go I listened to the child and Lebron no he's great you know you have to do Anthony Davis is are you talking about overall over I say Philly Philly beat you know depth and they lost jj radic though yeah ballot because you ain't got a chance I feel your name but I'm talking about Kuwa- and come in for for Lebron for the next handful of years and I love it got you bonds Steven Steven Jackson right here with Steven on ESPN radio ESPN news. y'All stand with me for the hours I got something else I some four Anthony Davis last night should be a cause of concern I was talking to us about that this morning and Ucla group chat he's not very two more stars to come you know what I mean so to me integrated to players as much easier than integrating thirteen players plus a new staff like I said I think one thing about L. as people don't have I think you would probably be more pro four not that you use it or you're telling Athletes Youth I understand your angle too you said if it messes up your money you need to stop it to me it should mess up your money because these guys who won championships have been integral parts of winning championships. I just think it's going to take some time you think about it won't point last year the Lakers had two players the clippers out entire team they were just waiting on recently retired and Percy Harvey and matron talk about they used it so to me I love with your platform to me your voice is bigger than just sports you have a voice that the ESPN radio siriusxm channel eighty plus ESPN radio simulcast over the live national television airways of ESPN news number to call it was over triple eight say espn that's eight eight eight zero citizen kid has to step up right Milwaukee's about Denver I don't trust to me I haven't trusted him where someone who use cannabis our entire careers we've found ways to to to make that work and it helped us and then you're hearing so many different stories of player that do use it now or who just goint to me that's absolutely ridiculous let me tell you something first of all I appreciate your comments and this is the biggest reason why because he most people I think an unsung hero to was Mohawk he did a great job guard Lebron and and and getting some Doc rivers because Yeah Patrick Beverley guarding him yet always I wasn't against a per se I just use it we became against it was for this one thing I've never believed in it for recreational purposes Argonne on them and we Paul George get back you have him spend some time with him I mean Damn I'm thinking about it I really pick the Lakers roll team my chair don't want to admit they ignorant let me be the first to say when we come to that you said you sat up there you sit on social media you might be a bit ignorant to this and I was like he's right he's absolutely right because it's never something that I want to do because I saw cats growing up in Holland squeezed that were prisoners to it so for me I was competing no how many how many NBA teams got ten guys is willing to go out there and compete like honestly you look at how many guys you know what it's going to go on a game compete adults uh-huh patients that we have to have patients with the Lakers and just see what they're gonna do but I mean all the running up and down every day after day that's what makes everything right I mean because like I said there's going to be a tremendous rivalry angel pumpernickel opioids and toward all instead of just having long term effects on our health and getting US addicted but then they wanna find suspend us in some people losing their careers over I'll share with my audience what you had to stay to me you anything about but you said it to me so mad maverick appreciate it any no biggie but just tell the meaning to me it's disrespect good athlete down with no doubt to me is just this whole movement we've been making in Jackson that resonates around the world into me if there was a little bit more education on the we'd side in in in the narrow the negative stereotype giving it and if you understood it a little bit how did not not so many teams they have an identity so as Stephen the saying that we might have been wrong at the clippers might need to be the favorite to win at all I'm not going to say that you you can't change now everybody getting on me about the use of cannabis getting on him though it was it was a respectful call us to get to because I know that Steve Man Masbate Matthew man was on social media talk about Steven talking about me and I'm sure I'm sure you will wear this this I I'm not I'm not I'm totally so we're disservices stick to your guns were jump I love the Lakers I think it's going to take some time regulative effect on that individual's and their individual performance and then I'm thinking about the the corporate sponsors or whomever for the PRI- It could be folks a professional athlete because for professional athletes I've seen to many instances I'm not saying everybody who who you know but I've seen to many instances where it had a I've never been against it for medicinal purposes a matter of fact my mom got arrested so passed away from cancer and me and my family thought about using it for medicinal purposes I remember via social media and they didn't exchange phone numbers and he had a chance to explain it to me how I explained it to you like I said I think it's all about delivery you know the way he felt he wanted to do it was his choice you exactly right anybody I was never suspended for a game I never I never I never came up never got caught with but people that get caught with it and jeopardize everything like that and then suddenly you make and then now you jeopardizing it because it is like David Ervine for example listen Matt Barnes explained it I'm Tom I even brought snoop dogg right here on this radio show while I was in la and I said because these people won't listen to me could you lay and he said you ain't talking about what cats do unexplained it but this cat who wants to come on this show and he can own peril if he wants to because when he retired from football he was on this right way I wasn't doing it for people to know Stephen They I wasn't doing it to be saying I wasn't doing it to be cool I was going to keep my body and my mind in a right place to go out there and put my take time he said you talking about cats that allow it to affect their money if a league has a policy against and if you get busted cannabis are we jeopardize my job I take heart take care of my family it's a no brainer I would never do it again so guys that's willing to come to the professionals the two does always been if you like me you scratch to you Claudia Way to get to where you are we both know what poverty is knowing what it's like to starve and Dan wh what I was saying to like I totally agree with you on that because I've always say is not what you do is how you do it my my whole NBA career. I did it you are in violation of it is going to cost you millions so not talking about you not talking about Cuba hypothetically just use you as an example 'cause you're sitting right in front of me my an outdated way of looking at things I think we're so progressive now and you know with with with regulations across the country with legal medicinal and recreational number two stuff that you know folks to put in the Y'all bodies that we don't know about go ahead speak on why I got a chance to get to know David urban since he you know he retired we connect body on the line every night and that's it it wasn't a nobody to know it wasn't for people to say Oh Steven Jackson breaking the rules it was none of that is not how you do it now what you do eh I given this up he explained that like you do he explained that like out having to do well he said I ain't giving this up what my football and I'm like is not been accepted because guys like they're doing it for the wrong reason I'll give you the last word on this subject because you was bringing up some of the other things that needs themselves and mega tron alluded to that whereas jobs like being in the NBA jobs like being the nfl you got pete they got to understand where you're coming from and not totally understand because I would have if it was a situation where what I'm GonNa do by judging only judging cats that lose money because of this after work so hard to get them but no brainer that's I have always been against the recreational use of it for a professional and because my attitude is fair or not if the League's have the policy in place what's it all of this that you windy that's when I'm on the only thing that I wanna say is that's what I'm speaking against to each is all right look at these you know T- take another look at these outdated rules and allow cannabis not just the actual fly but CBD's well to be an option for treatment as well as the opioid they try to poison our body with it's not something I was promoting I was trying to do to make cool for me to focus sleep recover and get through my crazy on the on the court life and off the court lock you got if he had to choose between his career in cannabis that he would give up I probably couldn't for the fact that I know what it does for me and I've been doing it for so long so it's like I said it just like Jackson what's and start smoking all of a sudden that didn't smoke when it was coming up and and jobs out because he writes even they are idiots and they are the reason why Ucla Cannabis Research Program over studying the plan from head to toe and in doing experimental trials then we want to take our findings to professional sports and hopefully have them I haven't understanding that we need to re enters insurance can be you're listening to the Stephen a Smith show podcast ESPN RADIO ESPN new download the vivid seats APP enter Promo Code Espn twenty-five at checkout to get ten percent off your next order don't buy just any seat get a vivid seat all the smoke the new it's Mark Computer career I'm pretty sure newhouse might be haunted what makes you say that the furniture is levitating on the ghost welcome home there's a lot of guys that they really like I said I wouldn't someone who could take opioids you know you give me one painkiller my stomach is turning upside down so like Jack Post they're gonNA hold it against you and use it as an opportunity to take your money from you which you worked all your life for and I think that that is not small but I totally understand what you come on cast Matt Barnes Steven Jackson former champions in the NBA with their own pockets on showtime it was going to do it up you can do it to go to my computer career dot edu take the free career evaluation today you could start a new life as an it pro and as little as four months even if you're not a techie in rocket science that's you know what's really scaring missing out on Gyco for help with homeowners and renters insurance GEICO makes it easy to sink bunch great the athletes are or the new guys maybe using it for look or whatever I think guys that actually or users are using for the right reason okay I appreciate it Stephen I think there are times where I'm head story of TMZ and we're you know we got a game the thing that you know what I mean so for me to be able to focus it was something I needed so I'm working with UCLA anthing nope not me I don't know the first thing about computers well guess what that's okay because you don't have to before they started many of their graduates turn a computer on and off and that's it now the it profession the Stephen A. 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ESPN RADIO ESPN news editor eight say ESPN eight eight three seven seven six y'all WanNa take some phone call these folks they won't talk a little bit so would look around enough eighteen nine and eight I mean that's not a bad stat line right not bad ass Eddie I said he is almost tripled appreciate the explanation and like I say you right when you said I was getting ready to write let's be honest now the absolute too but I just WanNa make sure that I'm clear when I'd say how they have obviously there in hopes for Bradley beal that's probably not going to happen this season of someone like CPI can get out there I think he definitely make them a competitive team in the east but there's a long season but that first game means a lot I'm talking to Stephen

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Cutting Down

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18:15 min | 4 months ago

Cutting Down

"Flood owner, throwing you off your game. Stick to a winning game plan with odor eaters, featuring three advanced odor and wetness fighters, the lineup provides long-lasting Odor, control plus more to keep your feet on their Game Ota readers. Powder provides outstanding moisture control, clear drying sprays the MVP in preventing athlete's foot while insoles were continuously manage wetness will adding a layer of comfort pick up today at Walmart target CBS dollar, general or other fine retailers or Destroy Foot Odor with the best in order defense. Far The interruption, but I'm Mike will with Frank I sold a sitting in for Tony in New York and Frank. We're going to begin with some less than great news from the ranks of college sports. Yeah, the news that Stanford is cutting eleven varsity sports. The school says the Athletic Department has been operating at a deficit in the financial hit of Corona virus will only make it worse. Some of the sports being dropped include fencing squash men's rowing and big wants to me field, hockey, wrestling and men's volleyball, which in the PAC, twelve is huge. Frank, your thoughts on this, and whether you think it's a sign of things to come. It's definitely a sign of things to come Yukon. Last month, when from twenty four sports to eighteen at the start of the pandemic Cincinnati drops sports, including men's soccer Akron has dropped sports, but when you think about Stanford, and when you combine athletics and academics, you know with all due respect to Duke Vanderbilt and Michael Your school northwestern Stanford is at the top here and they had been carrying thirty six city sports, so the averages about eighteen so that. That is a lot to finance. The school like Stanford is doing that and those schools that they're dropping Michael. They'd WanNa Combine Twenty National Championships, so they were excellent in these sports to me. It's a sign of things to come. I think you're GONNA see other schools dropping some of these programs and it's tough. Pat Forty! WHOSE DAUGHTER SWIMS THERE? He said it's going to affect about tune at forty students and twenty two coaches, those cuts at Stanford. Frank. It's depressing news, and if Stanford Yeah asked to cut sports, imagine what schools that aren't one of the three richest schools in America, and Stanford is that I think is in terms of endowment think it's Harvard Yale, Stanford Princeton in that order and. Yeah. They're all going to have to cut sports. Frank. We're looking at. Teenagers who've worked as some of these sports from four to eighteen years old and they get in position. They've at position generation to generation after generation we. Yes, we only pay attention. Most sports fans people who call themselves sports fans pay attention to college, football and basketball. Basketball Yeah pretty much they may be a little attention to college baseball there taping attention to certain parts of the country, Lacrosse but frank what talking about. Some in some cases, schools carrying nineteen, twenty, twenty, one, maybe not as many definitely not as many as Stanford plus thirty, but state schools. Out The endowment of Stanford and Harvard and Yale and northwestern, you mentioned and do what are they going to do? I'm sure Mama Monitor's going to do about this, but. Is going to have this pinch, and when you talk about not having football you talking about again for the power, five conferences, a loss of four billion dollars, if there is no football this season, and by the way the Ivy League has just reporting. Is that the Ivy League is going to just not have sports at all in the fall and then. What if you need to have in the spring? You think about men's soccer women's. Hockey Cross country. My daughter's getting ready for her. SEASON, I have a friend whose daughter plays Colorado. She plays women's soccer. They're getting ready. It's difficult Michael. My big thing too is when you think about Maryland making the move to the big ten Syracuse going to the ACC when you have these sports on not football, not basketball having to travel by plane. Think about doing you know how much that costs and I think. That's the big problem. The more regionalized schedules and they're gonNA easily. Even the ones that remain frank as you point out. They're gonNA have to do that. It's one of the changes they're going to have to make survive yet. Did you know GEICO's now offering an extra fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies. That's fifteen percent on top of what Geico could already save you. So, what are you waiting for your baby to let you sleep in? Sleep in another half hour. Thanks Sweetheart. And you'll change yourself to. Never been a better time to switch to GEICO. Save an extra fifteen percent when you switch by October. Seventh limitations apply visit. GEICO DOT COM for details. Hello. This is your apartment i. need some favors from you. Your cat keeps rubbing against the kitchen island and I can't return the favor. Can you give her extra pets for me after that? Could you bundle your renters and car insurance with Aiko save money, and it's easy to do online and one last thing. Could you leave the TV on during the day I need to catch up on my soaps. GYCO for bundling made easy go to Geico, DOT com today. All Right Michael the other big story involves former NBA player Steven Jackson. WHO has doubled down at his defense of Philadelphia Eagles wide, receiver Sean Jackson even after to Sean, was publicly reprimanded by the Eagles for using his social media account to post antisemitic messages that to Sean attributed to Hitler now. Does Shawn has apologized twice while Stephen Jackson said to Sean was quote speaking the truth. Today, Steven went on instagram live and continued his hateful rhetoric Jews, which included him saying quote I haven't said one thing. That's not untrue yet. All right Michael has a lot to unpack here. What are your thoughts of this latest development? Well? My thoughts are pretty simple about this frank. This is not tolerable and. You. Know I'm never. Ever in favor of when somebody's on an active roster of suspension or fine firing them no ridicule public ridicule. You're going to undermines. Stephen Jackson said so eloquently on behalf. Try Black lives matter. He has no credibility now he's undermined his own previous, good work with this garbage in garbage, and so I know Stephen. Jackson I liked him, and if I was sitting with him, now worked with them. I will say Stephen Stop your raw. You're not speaking any truth. You'RE GONNA have to become more familiar with the truth via history, and so let's read some. Read it together. This is insane. You are ruining. Your just ruining weeks of actually trying to appeal to people on one level, and then bringing your own bigotry and prejudice in. We're at a time where no one can afford to see that no one can afford to have it to entertain it. Stop it and I. Don't know if he has people around him. Who will do that or not frank? Now I. Think you're right. It speaks to ignorance, and it's hateful and I think a guy like the Sean Jackson because he's playing in the NFL. The NFL and the Eagles clearly spoke to him like I mentioned. Apologize twice. The problem is no one is getting the Stephen Jackson and you mentioned what he did the last month George. Ford was a guy that he knew and Steven has been out in front and he's done a lot of injuries. You wonder if after a while just because you doing that. It doesn't mean you're a scholar in race, relations in religion and in history, and before you're going to say something vetted out, do some research. Don't just throw in. Spew all this nonsense out there because it's. It's terrible for him, and it's terrible for everything that he's accomplished over the past month. It is and Desha Jackson I'll say this. I hate it what I heard him saying when he said it or tweeted communicated it. But then more importantly than the apology to me is sort of reaching out to get people making contact in the community that you're in with people from the community you just disparage, and so that that effort has been made whether it was influenced or done instinctively I don't much care that effort has to start, but this Stephen Jackson doubling down. This can't be tolerated and people. Someone needs to get to Stephen Jackson and just say. We'll talk about educating themselves frank part of educating yourself as just shutting up and listening for everybody for anybody who wants to educate him or herself, and at some point he's got to do that as a place to start, and there's clearly a lot more work to be done. And I think Michael to a guy like Steven Jackson. He has a very popular podcast. It's on showtime and I think after awhile. You kind of get caught up in it that people want me to say controversial and outrageous things, and sometimes you can say whatever you want, but they're are going to be consequences. And the greatest concert right now. You look at the consequence for some ridicule. Is it starts there and so I. Don't know what Stephen Jackson's thinking I don't know who is influences are. One can only hope. The great thing about facts they're proven. Affected crude oil contains impurities. Their base oil made from natural gas is ninety nine point five percent free of impurities. And the fact that pennzoil is the first synthetic motor oil made from natural gas, not crude oil. It gives you. The engine protection. The proof is in the pennzoil. Based on sequence for where test using sap five W. thirty. Ask Ford F Jiffy Lube. For businesses around the world, today isn't restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change How they burn from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work visit. IBM DOT COM slash smart to learn more. Adam silver expressed concern yesterday about the possibility of positive cases, arising after players and staff of entered the protective bubble environment in Orlando Silver, Toll Fortune brainstorm health quote, what would be the most concerning is once players go through our quarantine. If we were to have any positive tests, we would know that we'd have an issue close quote. Silver went as far as to say if that happened. The NBA could face a second shutdown. Frank, what do you make of this? Well Michael. Here's the thing tonight. In fact on this network, the MLS tournament is going to start. It's a World Cup style tournament part of the regular season as well one of those teams FC. Dallas was sent home and when they arrived in Orlando, and they were in the bubble. More players had tested positive, so the MLS decided to send them home. Nashville supposed to play tonight. They had players tested positive after they arrived in Orlando so Michelle Roberts. Roberts the Executive Director of the Players Association and Obviously Adam Silver talked about they know when they get down here, there will be positive tests, but Adam is worried about something spreading to multiple teams where he perhaps would have to shut it down. It has to be a concern. We talked about it. Michael They never should have sent twenty two teams down here. They should limit to sixteen. It's a more manageable number, not twenty, two, sixteen, thousand, nine eight. But. Let me start here, frank, yeah, at least the the concern I hear coming from Adam silver consistently. I think that's the only sensible reasonable educated approach. Like if you just come in, this is not time to be a swashbuckler and say here's a we're going to do, and we don't care what the results are. You can't have that and Adams level of concern. I think ought to be sort of comforting to his own players, coaches and team owners and everybody else in the NBA. Community and the WNBA. This is a place that this has to start. These are the conditions under which we're operating and we'll take them seriously which we know baseball just tried to. To Cram something in in a deadline time in football I don't know what the hell they're thinking and Adam silver to me. The only sensible approaches would try this to the best of our ability, and we're not even certain. If we can do this, you can't be certain and yes, you have to. You have to operate with this degree of caution and concern because anybody who runs out there and says year. Here's what's going to happen. We're GONNA. Finish this this time. Suppose you get multiple teams teams that. Testing positive that they have to be eliminated from playoff that would be a disaster for the NBA and may not be mls. fractionally as as scrutinized as the NBA is internationally, so Adam Silver, and all of his lieutenants understand this and I think this is the only way to proceed with a yellow light flashing caution. Well you talked about all those teams. I mean think about how many players and that's testing positive. Then upbringing seven players down that some of that is positive tests. Some of it is injury. The Milwaukee Bucks have announced that they might have to bring some parts of their traveling party down at a different date as kind of get ready. This is the issue my big thing if you started I know they're gonNA WANNA finish it. They never should've brought. Twenty. Two teams should've left it at the sixteen teams that qualified for the playoffs and just move from there. That would may the Lord I mean when you. In that bubble, the the riskier it is, and so that's one, but now now they've committed to that and you wonder Frank I. Wonder if anything's off the table, I mean. I know those teams are prepared to leave, some have left. Toronto's been down there for a while. They were going to be there anyway, but at this point, it seems like you have to consider every smart option you have. With that we're going to throw it back. I know. Famous play. We got one more one more okay. We got one more Mike. Don't don't don't don't don't going to throw it back. You're. GonNa. Stuck in Serbia are meanwhile better news about ten years ago. You may remember this Michael. It was tonight ten years ago Lebron James announced on this network that he was taking his talents to south beach. Of course, it caught a lot of grief for that the TV spectacle, but it worked out pretty well. What do you remember about that moment? And how do you think it changed the NBA? Video. Did you see how much how little gray I had compared to? Now? That's just sort of frightening. I'M NOT GONNA GO Grecian Formula Frank. Strikes me about that one things two things strike me about a one the amount of criticism Lebron James to for no reason just for no reason I mean people and people just pilot. Even if you wanted to say to yourself well, this seems a little bit over the top people with crazy because they wanted to rip Legrand and that was stupid and years later. This looks wrong and mean spirited. The second thing I take away from it is. Players, trying to group themselves and sort of create an environment where they can have a big whatever a big two and a half or big three, a pretty big four, whatever it is player seizing control of not just the messaging, but actually of sort of the direction of the NBA, and where they play in how they play who they play with that the League took that direction with that announcement, and so those are the two things even now Franken that stay with me that you know what Lebron Lebron did just fine, and there was nothing. To just sort of savage him about because he made that announcement the way he did. The only thing I would say I think you should contacted Cleveland maybe the day before made an announcement released a statement that he wasn't coming back. To make their fans have to sit through that then every television show I remember that first year he loses to Dallas. He's kind of the NBA billion. The following year to me the game that stands out I was lucky enough to be there that night in Boston. It's a game. On the. Eastern Conference finals. He's legacies online. He hasn't won a title yet. He went for forty five points in forty five minutes fifteen rebounds for my money under the circumstances where he was at that point in his career. That is his signature performance, and you think about Kevin Durant now, going to play for the warriors, and then we. Did this past summer with Paul George Lebron kind of accelerated the whole thing of joining forces with other stars and try to win a championship movement based on what the players one, not the age, all generations old notion of what. Teams general managers owners wanted by the way twice in those playoffs Lebron down three I just watched that game the other night. In Boston you think he's GonNa. Wind up eliminating him again and then frank down double digits. I think ten or eleven points in game two in Chicago in the conference finals when they're already down one game to nothing and you think in wow, two games to none is going to be killing. Brian is nothing SORTA. Pin this on at that point, different couple of different points along the way in his postseason career, and he got it done. He delivered I'm not talking about on five, not six not forget that, but on taking his talents to south beach and making it work. And on allowing players, really giving the players, the impetus to okay I've done this. What do we want to do? Not Wait for what they want us to do. It worked he wanted to. He went four times. Anyone to it worked out to down there. GEICO knows there many reasons why you ride from the thrill, the revving engine and pure adrenaline flying down the highway to the confidence of knowing that Geico always has your back with twenty four seven access to claim service, but Ari Snyder, and has one reason in particular. 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Steven Jackson joins Boomer & Gio

Boomer & Gio

20:34 min | 9 months ago

Steven Jackson joins Boomer & Gio

"Torah go on the fan of cross country CBS. Sports Network joining US right now. A guy we've gotten to know over the last couple of months. I'm family yet. Family now it is family now it is Stephen Jackson. Nba Star former NBA star was fourteen years in the League man in years and now he's got the all the smoke. podcasts cast part of the Showtime Youtube Channel. And it's one of my favorite things to watch. I talk about it all the time. Him and Matt Barnes and they do an amazing job they get all the greats rates in the game and they have these real conversations. I only think that those guys can have because of the respect that they have earned throughout the years in the league. And and right after Kobe's passing I might reference your podcasts. A good one hundred times because I went back and watched the whole thing again First off how you hold it up. I'm good I'm good as can be. Amen I Hard time I was having the last couple of days. I can imagine the hard times families having you know is it just sucks to lose a guy who do you know. We all looked up to a guy who I grew up with idolizing and I just told you I never thought I have a idolized. Somebody the same age as me but just to see hero GonNa sewn in the way would you know losing his daughter and other family is it was unexpected and sad. I had to see because he was doing so it was doing better things. After basketball you know and It just it just sucks to see anybody goes through. The he he after basketball was already moved away from it that he legitimately moved away from the NBA and it was his daughter. Who brought him back into the game? Is that true. Yeah Yeah I think Gee Gee helped him get his love for the game back You know Kobe is nothing he could have done in basketball. You know and just ingest for him to that love he had and to see his daughter WanNa be him she wanted to be Mama. Say Mama Sita you know she wanted to be the female version COGAN. She had it in them and I think he saw that and they gave him the love for the game to go out and just help her but all women basketball you know. He became a big Fan of college. Basketball and I I just think he wanted to do something for the game for the women's game of basketball. That wasn't done and who else could do a better than Kobe. Bryant what Steve I just want to ask you one of the thing The day of the crash he and Gd went to church. ooh and they had communion early. She had an early game. Obviously they were moving pretty quickly because I had to get to where they were going. I mean the relationship between him and G G obviously as we see on social media now and everything else was so strong with so powerful and you could see. It's one of the reasons I think while we're also said about this whole thing and then comes a potential story where it seemed like. She was in his arms when they went down in this helicopter. Yeah I I heard stories to manage manages. It just sucks because I have five daughters and You know selfishly me if I had to go I would love to go hold on my a daughter to write. You know what I mean so if that was the situation I'm not surprised. I mean their relationship was one of a kind and You just edges. which is that it had to go that way? Yeah that's the thing is I would say in the last couple of days that that struck me both were in. I have have daughters as well and all I think about is is her finding something. She loves me being there to support it. That's what I think about. And she's very very young and you know there's a slam online slam magazine and did a feature on the two of them and where she was pushing them off hit jumpers and his face was like it was just I mean. That's the that's the thing I keep thinking about. And that's the saddest part about it and when I went back and watched the conversation you and Matt had with them and you mentioned how you never every coach idolize someone the same age that comes across man like that comes across in the way that you're asking them questions the way that you're listening to his answers and for someone someone to be respected by their peers in the way that he was that to me is the ultimate sign of a man's career. Yeah and and you're right because like like I said we were teenagers. We never thought anyone of US would be go down as one of the best players ever. But we knew he was like his attitude the way he approached the game just his aura. I mean at the McDonald's game you know we knew he was coming out of high school to the NBA. But you see by my parents other players parents like everybody wanted to take pictures pitches. Woodham it really in in high school. My mom posted a picture on her page us there for him at the McDonald's game my awkward did I did Mike Bibby did. Everybody did and Like we knew he was going to be that star in high school and It was it was it was beautiful to see what he was doing at the basketball man and I knew his next forty years is is going to be unbelievable. Did you realize that he was going to end up with the Lakers was there. I can understanding that. He was going to end up there after being traded there by the Charlotte Hornets on draft. I know you know what I think too. Kobe didn't matter where he was. You know what I mean. He want to play basketball. If if you would ended up in Charlotte he would have been the best in Charlotte. He would have been one of the best place still but I think it was destined for him to be on the team. Like the Lakers. I think we're all a lot of credit to Jerry. West Jail West saw. Aw that Kobe Bryant that we never knew that he was going to be so You gotTA give a lot of credit because Jerry with talking to Stephen Jackson of course a long great NBA career. How Matt Barnes on the all the smoke podcasts? And the story that that Matt told about it was that Orlando game when he was with Orlando. And then the whole no flinching with the inbound bounce pass and I love the line where. Kobe said that that brought us closer together. Because I said anybody who is dumb enough to Uh f with me can play with me I mean and that showed me an insight like you hear all the stories. I mean you're obviously appear of his but to get an inside look of of that and he reaches out to Matt because the guy was messing with him on the court. I think that I mean that that Kobe mentality right. They're really showing that story and and is easy to see because Like I played with Matt. And you want those type of guys on your team guys. They care about the game what people don't know is there's so many guys in the NBA. And I don't care how they feel about me saying it because I've seen it and I have no I don't I don't watch the game. I can't see five players that played hard and I played a lot of guys in the league. You know they're good enough to play but a lot of guys leave. Don't understand the game. They'll understand how to win a lot. I don't even WanNa win. They they find these contracts they found with being in banding foul comes with the game when you get when Kobe sees guys that one again they wanna win even if they don't work harder than them if they have passion for the game and and and and the game you know it's about winning you have guys that go out there and fight a land on the line that's the kind of guys you WanNa your team. You don't need got score fifty points when you've got Kobe Bryant. You need guys come out there and be dogs and Kobe dogs on his. He's at is like what happened with them in shock. I know there's been a lot written about it and all that other stuff. I'm sure you have some more intimate knowledge and we would probably know as general fans but to me a semi match that should have been made in heaven and then should've went on and continue to win championships but it never happened You know you got you can be too good at terms you know. Having to great players like Kobe then I think a lot of that was people on the outside. I don't think that was Kobe Shack. You know Obviously Shat got traded traded. And how could you trade a guy like you know what I'm saying. But they did the right thing by keeping Kobe but at the same time I think it was more people on the inside pulling them apart. You know Kobe Co probably would Kobe's team San where you need to beat you need. This need to be your team or shack. This is your team and kind of got in between them but at the end of the day I think they respect the same and you know oh I it touched me more to talk about it because you know. It's a lot of things that he wants to say to Kobe. That he couldn't say regrets a lot of it. Now that's what happens when somebody lead is in your life. Yeah and I I think he does. I don't think they had bad blood because they had even had a sit down you know on TV before before. Kobe pads but I just think it's a lot of stuff that was unfair. That wanted to say and it was all appreciation in. I don't think it was something you need to talk about that happened. I think it was all giving him flowers. You know before he passed. I just got to be tough for you because because you WANNA get the podcast out they want to be able to promote it but at the same time you know. Today's going to be another day. Where you have to talk about this and have to relive some madam just going through a day like today personally where you're on shows like ours in the at least you have a pre existing relationship with us? Banana talked to a bunch of strangers about this. I mean emotionally. That's gotTa via little exhausting. Yeah I mean it's crazy but it's a part of life you know what I mean. I mean actually to be honest with you. You can actually Chris. I was looking forward to come and talk to you guys this morning but I mean it's just a part of it. I mean like I said Matt is holding US Down Shutout Matt my my my partner in crime matters on the west coast holding us down in the hopefully he can get to the services services and all that and I'm down they're holding all smoke showdown. We're not GONNA put a episode out this Thursday. Yeah WE'RE GONNA continue to more impervious breaks to him and I think That was a great move. Basho Tom or making that happen. Do you have any idea when the memorial for Kobe Angie. Nah I don't I don't hope hopefully it will be so in the Lakers. Take the the court win. I think Friday Friday and they're at home. Yeah that's going to be and I'm glad that they. They postponed the game between the clippers. The Lakers who are they did the NBA did the right thing. Yeah and I think pretty much all the players across the NBA did the right thing. I don't think nobody really even want to play this week. I know Kyrie serving didn't play. He played last ninety played. Great Great I think what he did is he came out and he said you. Don't play for Kobe tonight. He spoke to after the and the thing I I would always say that if Kobi. What would Kobe want me to do one when Kobe expect us to do right what do you think we would want everybody? Pushing don't stop is one thing et like when he died. He said it's a minute the day we did this show. He said at the time I seen him before when he spoke to my son on his farewell tour and before that he said the same thing to me because he knew I was emotional guy and he's just say this to me and Games Jett whatever you do make sure you join it so you know with all this going on on average. Since the day he passed really trying to put that in my life. Is Everything got. Do I enjoy because I wear my emotions on my sleeve and I try to beat a protective everybody and not try. Take on everybody's problems and I it can weigh on you but hearing him say Jack Whatever you do make sure you join. That's what I'm GONNA do talking to Stephen Jackson on boomer and Gio it's the things that have come out since Sunday that you hear that weren't out there. There's all these. Kobe memories that I had I was fortunate enough to see him in an NBA finals. It was a actually the one they lost unfortunately because I was rooting for him against the Celtics in in six that year and then he went to after that which was which was great. But it's all these other things that I hear you're one of the things. Was that thing that you posted on instagram. It was after the podcast. It wasn't part of the podcast where you thanked him for talking to your son and he spent spent you know he said there was twenty people that were ready to go into him and wait for him and he sat there and spoke with your son and basically gave him everything that was in his brain. His wisdom to your son took the time to do that. It's stuff like that that I hear that that also makes me more upset because they were so so much left for him to give to others and it seemed like he was really embracing that maybe in his playing career he was just an assassin after. Be Right that that great to be locked in sitting next to great you sit next so you you you you you have to be somewhat different and to be locked into be that great every day day every night for twenty years you know what I mean and he was little different but that moment was everything to me because like I said it was. It was his farewell tour it. It was a thirty twenty to thirty people waiting on and he didn't know my son he didn't know I was coming wrong. I says when he saw me he just lit up and then when he saw my son he lit up even more any actually pulled my son away from us and talk to him and when I posted that were really made me emotional. Is My son posted it and he said I figured this day. So I'll hold onto that favor moving forward here. You know. Lebron James has got a lot of heavy lifting going on now you know I feel sorry for the NBA. This this this is going. This is this is this is really pissed. Lebron off that this happened to to When idols he's going to go crazy he's GonNa he's GonNa do anything he can bring his championship? La this year I feel sorry for the NBA. Right now I feel I feel the same way and I feel like listening to what Lebron said about carrying on the Kobe. Legacy and there was that whole thing about Lebron. Come into the Lakers and the Kobe fans not like it. Yeah Lebron Kobe coming together and then right before Kobe's death Lebron passes him on the all time scoring list. Kobe sends a great tweet out out to him. His last post all those fans out there that for whatever reason didn't want Lebron now all of a sudden have to our embracing him. He's is going to I think he's going to take over the NBA here. Yes second half of the season and the I can't even imagine what the All Star Games going to be like what the hall of fame inductions are going to be like Kevin Garnett. We're talking about this yesterday Kevin Garnett Tim. Duncan are up for hall of fame induction. They're GONNA get in. I value. Of course of course would you. ooh If you're one of those guys would you say you don't. Let's just make this whole thing about Kobe this year and we'll come next year or as the desk. That's kind of hard uh-huh because these guys work their whole lives to get to this point. You know what I mean now somewhat. You have to put yourself aside for Kobe. You know. Because he's definitely in that class. I think they should do something big. You know Kobe but I don't think Tim Duncan. EKG To lose the moment. They deserve their speeches. I think that's happened as I just say that. There's such great players deserve their day. Yeah that the Kobe thing is going to be so big. I don't want their day to be diminished overshadow. Not at that. They're not in on the first ballot. It's almost like an asterisk that this is a special situation for a special player that we want to remember and we want to do it the right way. I don't know I I have tim. Duck here right. I guarantee he could care less conducted care less. He's GonNa. He's GonNa Love Hall of fame but Tim was one of those guys who just love playing basketball and everything that come with us just a plus. Yeah in the time that you spent with him his personality that maybe we didn't see as as was it in there somewhere somewhere. Yeah I mean I I Koba Kola was a weird guy but he had his ways of being weird and funny I posted something on my My ex reminded me of when I came downstairs. We've plows planted Charlotte and was planning the Lakers and I was still standing in. The Brits Card was causing at the time and I came down and I was looking at her walking out the door and I thought she was laughing at me. 'cause I was making funny faces at her but Kobe was behind me the whole time making faces at her and I'm thinking she laughing at me me. And then he pa- I finally turned around and saw we both lit up. You know it was. He was the type of guy you know. He if he loves you he loves you and he loves you. One hundred ten percent and No He is just. I'm lost I. I wanted to ask you about something else. That happened last night because I was really curious. Your take on this. You see what happened with the Knicks last night this whole fiasco there Jay crowder WWF. Yeah Yeah so what do you When when you see that whole thing unfold Jae crowder steals? The ball goes right to the three point. Line is fifty seconds ago. They're down eighteen. I understand the disrespected showing there. But my take on this and tell me if I'm wrong from your your perspective. Give that the Knicks. Invite this type of stuff to happen to them. They don't Garner enough respect from their opponents with the way that they play in the way that this organization has been run in for a while. So you can blame Jae crowder. Elfriede Payton can be pissed off and he can push him. But you know if you didn't look dead through half the game then you know maybe your opponent would respect you a little bit one. People don't respect because of one reason donor to he did right Kratos Outta line up eighteen. There's no reason to take the shot and if it was me he wouldn't have not this morning not not not not just pushing down. You know that. That's what's left for. You're not really doing you. Push them down Yup plan Give each other five. Why even push him down and like if you go pushing down go straighten his mouth right there? Make a point. You don't take this and then that's that's the disrespectful part of basketball see. We didn't do that back then. Game over you you show respect team. We know the Knicks. Sorry you don't you don't gain by pulling the three at the end of the a game hit it on him but look what it was. It was crowded. He who is he a while. It seems like everybody on the Knicks. It's very unhappy with him with with what was going on during the game. Whatever that that was normally a cool do but I? I lost respect for him for doing that. And and I think I think he should have got punched in the mobster push down. Wow Wow interesting. I'm just so conditioned. Asian did just crush the knicks at any point even though they team bad disrespectful. You don't do that. You don't do that basketball. How does this team get fixed? If if Jim Dolan called you up and you actually took the phone call and he said Steven. I Trust your opinion. Fix this organization. Who should I hire? We're I almost say lists secretly say that you stepping down but you really not. Let's see how we can get the public to believe. You stepped away. Okay you know what I mean. Then that's the first step. Okay then I think everything the fall in line but I think that's the first even if he don't step away let's make some kind of public stable whereas like you stepping away from the team and let somebody run and that'd be the first thing he does Stephen the thing about the Knicks Knicks. And the way that they run the organization they treat the players first class. No everything is first class everything. So that doesn't doesn't compute to me. Why top talent do not want to play for the Knicks? I will call Karl. Anthony towns ever come to the Knicks will ad ever come to the next GONNA ever see any one of those guys coming is hard when you got how you handle Oakley looming. How you handle Camello lumine like a lot a lot of stuff that's looming around that it's GonNa be hard plans to get over now? If that wasn't a problem I think K. D. would've even thought about it but he you know on oh now so he say he looked at it but it wasn't really saying he wanted to be in Brooklyn so I just think it's a cloud hanging into the weather. Change over there you know regardless how you treat freak the players you you you treat Tend to Gosh from the D. League. Will they'll complain. Knicks uniform and lose. Anybody will do that. They gotta convince one guy in order to win the lottery when there is a significant game changing player at the top of the lottery. J. Barrett's a good player and I think he's going to be very WPRO but he doesn't seem to be like the leader like type you don't he's not. He's not going to change the organization's a good player and he's going to be a good piece down the line. He's not not not a big face of organization. Stephen I have to say that You and mad with all the smoke have done something so quickly that I gotta give you all the respect in the world. You've you've created conversations that are so organic and so interesting and you haven't really had that much media experience and that's one of the hardest things to do in this. Business is to sit down and get the stuff out of your guests in the way that you guys do it. And if anybody hasn't check out the podcast yet you have to. It is one of the most. It's highly recommended things out there for me and and you always always have interesting subject matter and even the drive to the Kobe interview and you guys talking about well you know what you were GonNa ask them. Even that is incredibly interesting. So all the best all you know you got to supporters here and two guys that are always rooting for you and we thank you for for coming here and giving us some time anytime yeah family. New Year's resolutions are hard but the xfinity New Year gig sale is easy waking up the kids after a long winter. 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Moment of the Day (11/06/19)

Boomer & Gio

01:44 min | 1 year ago

Moment of the Day (11/06/19)

"The choices quite frankly a lot with the Steven Jackson stuff. But I figure you'll post that online so I like this a lot being written talked about with the black cat from the meadowlands the other night for metlife stadium. One story said hundreds of cats are now existing there and if that's true we don't know that it is but if it's true right Alad Greg wondered how those that work there get anything done like say maybe a ticket. Sales Rep this is. This is jared from season ticket office over the The jets I was just checking seaview under renew your renew your plan. Hello can you hear me. Ah I just WanNa see you last forever. You bought a half season plan last year. We want to see thank. You OUGHTA. Do you prefer the email address. Email easier in sales every cash right moment of the day he could jerry the UN's yes you to add ringsend Nice AIDS Times. We're perfectly time like screaming. meow attacking one another. So where does that even come like. Someone had to get that sound from some everything about that like somebody just stand there with

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I Started Sewing Clothes For My Barbies  Now Im Sewing Face Masks

Curious City

04:58 min | 6 months ago

I Started Sewing Clothes For My Barbies Now Im Sewing Face Masks

"Hey this is Steven Jackson. One of the curious city producers. I'M GONNA START WITH A bold statement here so bear with me. Corona virus has changed our lives. We're all living through the same historical moment sharing the same anxiety uncertainty and `isolation and lots of US. Just want to know. How is everyone getting by? We've set out to answer that question in a new series. We're calling life interrupted and each week will bring you snapshots of daily life during cove in nineteen. We're going to put it here in the curious city podcast. So you'll hear between the weekly episodes of curious city in this first installment we meet Lucy Keady. He's found a new use for an old hobby in the room. Where I'm doing. This is an ancient singer sewing machine. This machine belonged to my grandmother. This is actually the machine that I learned how to sell on and the fun thing about this old sewing machine. Is it still works? I don't use it but it could pinch actually work. I started sewing when I was about. Ten years of age. Started with Dow Close Barbie. Close that sort of thing. I've made all sorts of things over the years ordinary things and then fun whimsical things. I made a lot of Halloween costumes. My daughter Claire. When you're for Halloween wanted to be reponsible but repulsed will in the tower so with that up it was all one piece reserve address Slash Tower Husson. Actually pretty comfortable as it turned out when all of this panda stuff started to happen. I think all of us felt a high sense of helplessness. So when a friend of mine from my knitting group told me about a woman that she knew who was organizing people making mask. I thought this is a real way that I could contribute to the greater good. It's a way of freeing up the massive. They're using in hospitals for medical professionals and providing cloth mask to people that might be afraid or endanger of being infected. I have used fabric. That goes back and choose baby clothes that I made my children. I have made a mess out of a blue daisy pattern that I used for a bridal shower for my daughter. It's just kind of fun to revisit some of these fabrics that I have not used or seen from years. I feel that it is. It's just good for when I look at the staunching especially in these difficult days. I think what does sewing machine what it kind of live through. It was there during World War One. It was there during the flu of nineteen eighteen. It was there during the depression. So this soya machine has gone through a lot of history and without learning how to sew on that old machine. I won't be able to use my current machine to make these mask so it all sort of goes around that was lucy. Keating for our series interrupted this story was produced by Isabel Carter and JOE DE. So we want to hear from you too. How has your life been interrupted? And how are you getting through it? If you have a story to tell get in touch find us on facebook and twitter or send us an email at life interrupted at wbz Dot Org.

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I Thought Ramadan Would Be Depressing This Year  But It's Been A Blessing

Curious City

05:31 min | 5 months ago

I Thought Ramadan Would Be Depressing This Year But It's Been A Blessing

"Hey this is Steven Jackson. One of the curious city producers. Today we're back with another episode of life interrupted audio snapshots of daily life during covid nineteen. The stay at home. Order has changed just about every aspect of our lives including the way we worship and today we meet the woman who is experiencing a very unusual Ramadan this year. I'm Dan Osman. This might not interrupted. Ramadan is a month where Muslims fast from dawn until sunset and the month is centered around spirituality prayer renewing your faith and your connection with God and your connection to our holy book the Koran. It is a month that you feel the blessings and and you really feel those bussing centered around community a lot of the time because it is a month where we engage in communal prayer every night one of the memorable experiences we have. I've read on. Madan is going to the Players in the evening after we break our fast and depending on the night of the month you may see hundreds or thousands of people alot pitch dark outside and seeing the building and the minaret and dome illuminated by the lights around. The mosque against the sky is just a beautiful sight. Honestly I was very concerned about how we would still make it feel special how we would still maintain that sense of community and spirituality. Even though we're not seeing anyone as the month kind of move don I came to appreciate the way that I am experiencing it because there is more focused on your children? We can pray at home as a family. We can have our three-year-old just sitting on the floor next to US playing with his blocks and he can also see us praying so I do appreciate that. And I appreciate sort of pairing things down to the essentials and realizing that's kind of what Madonna's more about my husband grew up in Gaza and Palestine. He did go through school during the Intifada enduring other events in Gaza where they were not able to go out or go to school or go to the mosque or or go anywhere so he very much so appreciates the fact that we are able to do that here and he's tries to communicate that to the kids night. You know kids. They don't they don't get it. They don't realize the difference in their situation and others by. I think it's still good for them to realize onto here that not everyone has the same experience may seem like a difficult situation and it is a difficult situation. There's no denying that but there are. I think levels of difficulty. Ooh It's GonNa be a challenge to see when things can kind of resume the way that we're used to and I don't know how soon that will actually happen. Because our prayers specifically put people in close proximity with one another standing shoulder to shoulder when we kneel and put our faces on the ground. It's like everyone. Is you know touching the same carpet and is a very close to one another and so I am concerned about that but at the same time in a SNAM worship is anywhere so you don't have to necessarily worship in a mosque. There's a verse in the Pura on that says say to my servant that I'm near I hear the prayers of those who call on me so basically saying that all you have to do as Colin Gotten. He will answer you in one way or another. When you really think about the fact that you know God is the one who's in control of all of it and you surrender yourself to that fact. I feel it's a little bit easier to cut through it and to do your part in order to stay sane and stay healthy and take care of yourself in those around you and just realized that whatever's going to happen is GonNa Happen and that hopefully he will take care of you. That was Deanna of Mon- for our series life interrupted this story was produced by Isabel Carter and Joe so with help from me Stephen Jackson. We want to hear from you too. How has your life been interrupted? And how are you getting through it? If you have a story to tell get in touch find us on facebook and twitter or send us an email at life interrupted at wbz Dot Org.

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 3) Kenny "the Jet" Smith joins the show!

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

41:44 min | 3 months ago

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 3) Kenny "the Jet" Smith joins the show!

"The. Ice. Dragon. Yes. A while ago. Okay! We're playing radio on. Okay. We had an interview. We had taken her shaky, but and Abbott Toyota Score. A union. One Neil Ladies. and. And six BLOBS. I. You know what's so funny is I didn't we were having heated conversations and talking and discussing and I kept watching it and I wanted to say soccer some mills man. He's dues fallen out got. Kicked in the chest I thought he was getting ready to die. Well they are playing in Orlando. The play mls soccer right now and NBA. Basketball is just around. The corner joins US right now for NBA Clare two time champion. Of course you see him on TNT talking about Smith, kidding the morning. Welcome to the program. How are you? Greg. Guy Appreciated it what up Chit. I cannot could play. Yeah I know I. Know that's right complaining. The players seem like they start to complain about the meals. This being put out on the table down Orlando. Have you had a chance to see that stuff? I saw online. It looked like the frye festival. Tell brought to you by rule the NBA. Tell? At this has gotta be. GotTa be a joke, right as they start to gear up and really get going. They've got to change the meal program. I think that it had to be one male for one play place I can't believe that any of the males. On a consistent basis looked like that it'd be one. It's not just sit look healthy that look like a healthy meal so whatever he was ordering. You know didn't look healthy at all, so I know that they're probably trying to get things that are all. Self contained. So you're not you know instead of instead of giving you an apple, you know. It's better to have a banana because opening it up I I think that, but I have no idea. I have no idea I haven't heard any. Of that? Jed besides the horrible food that we've seen circulate on social media. As a as a as a player yourself. Guys players whether in the League, or not, what would be your biggest concern about planning the bubble besides? Eating, a bad piece of shrimp. Well it would it would be. Dependent on my age. You know when I was like. Wanting to twenty-five. I wouldn't have any concerns because I didn't have any responsibility. I had no family I had no kids. A MOM and dad lived in New York I played in Sacramento Houston, I know they want and always possibility, but you know thirty year old. Kenny had a family. You know kids to mom and dad was frequently visited. My responsibilities change so I would have more thought classes. Like should I be down here like today. This Kenny's like Oh. I. Don't know about need to be in a bubble. You know what I'm saying, too many responsibilities so that that's where. I think it changes. Upon your responsibility when it's when it's only about you, you, you feel like you superman like nothing ever happened to me so I'm. Like but As as as you get older, you go man. I could affect so many other people. Kitty Smith joining us here on the morning show. Obviously, this is unprecedented that we had about three quarters of the season played. We're GONNA play a little bit. And then we jumped right into the playoffs with the teams that were the favorite prior to the quarantine. Still the favorites coming out of the coating. Is it still the Lakers box in the clippers are those still the teams to be as we restart. I would say that keeps the beat I. I would say that you know I. Remember after the start of the everyone's like man. This is about seventy eight hundred decade winning all. That's what it feels like to me. It's like. That season's over. Then you, you get three and a half months off of anything. That's a new season. So guys have come in to. Firstly, a players are really coming in now a second year players. Guys will come in the second year third and things of that Mr, so the experience they gotta have a different feel for the league when they come back in this in this after this quarantine, and it's really like a a once a month and a half point of it. This is that's what to me. It just feels like that's season's overt, and we got a month and a half tournament right now and we're gonNA. Do the best out of this corner. With with that being said though Kenny. These teams that. Those seven teams that we talked talked about the beginning of the year. They some of those seven teams at least four seven teams steel without the Kawais lebrons. The ADC honest, is that don't change, and as long as you got those dudes. It seems like you would have the edge. You, think about this. Big about not forget what what we what we remember. This say okay. We saw look at excite. How good when he'd be the next year. That's how he's been drop into this bubble. He's not dropping in that bubble. That Luca weeks remember. Say Okay. He was there. And now he got the spirits the next year. This is how he's going to look. That's three and a half months. Off Season for the NBA. He's coming back in his third year. He's not coming back. As a second year got John Eavesdropping in that bubble now? As second year player, he's not coming in as the rookie rookie of the year. He's coming as a guy who knows the league. And, coming in a second year, my my cookie here for my second year average I think both twelve points that's jumped to eighteen like Virginia's. This no stockton like to go here. Guys Peyton like do this. When you come, take a robot. You just know the League, so you can get your scoring. Your ability to score is just a little bit better, so those guys are coming back way different. I was told you is Cherry picking. That to. Sit A lot of people don't know or don't remember. Major hops if you participate in the dunk contest. Wendy's your hops disappear, and COO would. This is Germane to what we're talking about. And who do you think is going to revert? You talked about who can increase during this break, but who's going to revert because it has break. I. You know I. It was one day I. Don't if it's not like. Discount, it just happens like all of a sudden when I used to get a steel. Steel or let's say. Like like. Did you, catch it on on the sideline. You take that back to see WHO's chasing it. Yeah, and then when you look back, you see everybody's Kinda like You can't. We can't touch. You can't catch. All of a sudden you take that picture and you look back and you look. Everybody thinks they could catch you. Wait a minute. Am I slowly dowse? That's what it is. It's like it's like a subtle a subtlety of like guys. Case you. That never would chase you before and so for me, that was probably about. Here dying. Here nine La- guys like. Chasing me. So like I, I think younger teams will have an advantage to bubble a little bit only because they worked out to be ready today. You know most. As a vet you out for the. Season with the grind. Is You know how much you got energy? You have to reserve, so you have to change them and Talia workout. You gotta be dropping. The BRAS teams. Typically always didn't. Start great they you know they descend so he? They don't have that much read. Kenny Smith joining us here on the morning show Kenny we saw Patrick. Mahomes sign that giant deal with the chiefs. Who if you had to make the decision that you're GonNa? Give a guy all the money ten years. You're going to build not just your franchise, maybe the whole league around the player. WHO's that guy in the NBA? Johnson and right now he's the guy like. He! He does so many different things that control the game I. Think you know there's a lot of great you know scores our league, but very few guys who still to control the game on both ends of the floor where defensively you really have to pay attention to everything that doing in passing lanes. He's there. For blocked shots, and they're very similar to what came along was for us. You know in Houston like you always have to pay attention to them on both ends of the floor. You know obviously Michael was the ultimate of that. You know where those guys are. Both wants to play a year. That MVP's so like for me. That to me is the. Ultimate. Give all the money. What about Anthony Davis? I would say. Close I am. To be a better for me. just in terms of. He's proven that each do it by himself. Like. Go where he's taking it team to the Eastern Conference finals. And he has been the only he. He didn't have that secondary. Giant superstar. You know flat out superstar. You know. Chris Metal titles really player, but don't would say. He's a flat out. so I would say the ED's goes to Janas just because of that. A. Jet Obviously here in La were is a really on the. Lakers interns hoping that they can get this thing done. My question is besides the front runners. Who Do we need to be concerned about? Young teams. DALLAS. You don't be worried about them. Posing and Luca, GonNa look different. Boston. GonNa look different with Kemba Walker. Walkie. And Denver those four young teams. I have an incredible chance to shock people. And walk out with the Larry O'Brien and go. How did they do it? Dallas. Like Boston makes sense to me. MILWAUKEE OBVIOUSLY DENVER. Because you really think that Luke is gonNA come back. That much better than he can actually win this thing. Let let again. Let's take a take away our mental. Of the continuation of last year. We say okay finished that season last year the way he was. We, take, be an MVP candidate. I, mean I mean yeah for sure. It won't be ready candidates that means he's going to be playing at the highest level and I think well one month. You telling a guy playing a college season. Say Look. We're not playing a full season now. He's GonNa Play College team. And you play hard. You can in college season. I, put my I put some money on Luke. Kenny Smith joining us here on the morning show jet. I know you've got a basketball camp in online basketball camp coming up. Tell me about that and tell me how people get involved. While it's just you know. I'm sitting here through the pandemic. Here through you know everything that was going on social distancing all these camps being canceled. My can't be cancelled. You know and I was like what is that and I said well, I created created the first virtual online basketball and Academy Sports Academy where you come on and. You sign up. trae young timber, Wocka, older people. All all stars Brittany, griner and WNBA MVP. And we've become your personal trainer for an hour and a half two hours a day and to differentiate it is lot. It's live you once you sign up all you needed. It works on any device. All you need his wife five cellular and you could. You could join in join into the. Work side by side with us. Jet Academy Camp Dot Com. Jet Academy. Camp Dot Com lies, and you could ask the question live. You can upload your video live, and you get a workout and you get to do it stories, and your your your development should stop. Because of social distancing. I'm a need to know. Is there somebody going to? Teach me how to improve my old man game. Fish question. Okay what. Question. You're Oh man game being ordered what we'll do is deal it everybody. WHO HAS THAT WRECK GAME? You know what I mean like. If you WANNA go out play. You've been going to camp. You going every fitness center all those games that stopped. There's none of that I. Just get, so let me get a little workout. Let me I mean that'd be cut. The Rock and you know obviously basketball is the easiest sports has A. 'cause you can play you. Do it one person or you could do with ten, but you know with most sports you need other people. Fastball is one of the only sports that typically you don't need other people to be better at it, and you know it depends on your position and other sports, but for me I just thought it was important to continue to develop vent, so we got the old man game we. Version for you to. My. You know. Ninety. Except We had almost last sister Williams. No? Not. Dot Com. Kitty? Smith Kenny appreciates coming on. Thanks so much. Sir Got Guys. I. It is official. The snake draft results are in plus Julian. Element has a solution for the Sean Jacksonville. Tell you what it is next the morning show on seven ten ESPN so we've gone from. The Sean Jackson posting what he posted antisemitic comments to Stephen Jackson. Supporting Him and saying that he was speaking the truth and trying to educate people, and now we're onto. Big Time bomb in our on to the next one, which is Julian Ehrman, who went and put a video of talking about? His experiences as a Jewish player in the NFL, and what the remarks to him and what he would like to do with the Sean Jackson in light of these comments, here's Julian settlement. I've been getting hit up by everyone asking me about this Sean Jackson Post and I wanted to take some time before responded because it's a complicated issue and I wanted to be awful. I wrote down some of my thinking. I've seen to Sean in his career. Make outstanding football plays communicated over social media. I've got nothing but respect for his game. I know he said some ugly things. But I do see an opportunity to have a conversation. I'm proud of my Jewish heritage and for me. It's not just about religion. It's about community and culture as well. I'm unusual. Because I. didn't identify Jewish until later my life. Whenever. I encountered hatred. It never really felt like it was aimed at me. It was only after I was part of this community that I learned. How destructive is! anti-semitism is one of the oldest forms of hatred. It's rooted in ignorance and fear. I remember experience a little bit of this hate in two thousand eleven. When I was called a cake on the football field. There's no room. For anti-semitism in in this world. Even though we're talking about Anti Semitism, I don't want to distract from how important the black lives matter. Movement is and how we need to stay behind. I think the black and Jewish communities have a lot of similarities one unfortunate similarity. Is that they are both attacked by ignorant and the hateful. It's really hard to see. The challenges of community can face when you're not part of it. So what we need to do is. Listen. We need to learn. We need to act. We'd have those uncomfortable conversations. If we're going to have real, change. So to that end. The Sean. Let's do a deal. About, we go to DC I. Take you the Holocaust Museum. And then you take me to Museum of African American history and culture. Afterwards! Grab some burgers and we have those uncomfortable conversations. So. That's Julian Eshelman. Kind of saying hey, why don't we go to this together? And I like a lot of what he said right there, but I felt was important. I think one of the things that Steven Jackson had gotten wrong in his comments. Is he saying that we can talk about this year? And then we can talk about that here. Just talking about this doesn't lessen that before talking about Anti Semitism. It's not taking attention away from the social justice is going on right now. The Black Lives Matter Movement I think that's where Stephen Jackson got in some of the the deeper into the pool. This idea that you can't talk about this without talking about that. You can't separate the two. and. A big. That's why he has issued. A different apology now because he's probably step back from it realize oh I stepped into something that I probably should have been in. I was trying to really get this message out after discharge Jackson so now let me correct the situation. Julian element did the right thing. Jillian invited an invitation for Sean Jackson get educated on exactly what he thought he was talking about which he really had no idea what he was talking about I, mean he took so quotes from somebody else in credited him to Hitler when that wasn't even the case on top of that, you now have put yourself in a corner to make all of us question. Were who are you? What are you about? What do you stand for for real? And so when you look at those situations here, we are today still talking about a foolish stupid. Dumb. I don't want to call it an idea, but a dumb tweet or post or whatever? It was that he put out on the social media. For us to now have to react to that. You're right. I mean it's. It's all just a big distraction from where the energy and the focus needs to be at and. I understand wanting to be a part of this movement especially if you are. After barricading. You have some resources. You have a platform. You may feel compelled to want to get involved. But I hope decides. Jackson's situation is a precautionary tale for everybody else going forward. That the whole Hitler thing. Like, listen, there's no good that comes out of a statement quoting Hitler. Just no good unless you're talking about hateful evil double of people. There's no good that can come from it. So. If it's been done in the past, it's been done right now to Sean Jackson going forward. I hope everyone now knows this. There's just no good at comes from this and all. It does undermine any good that you're trying to do. Because while John Jackson may have incident to this conversation with all could intentions, nothing good has come from him entering this conversation because of how he chose to come to this conversation, and is unfortunately even Jackson Giddens, then separate the comments from the attacks. And now that's completed, and so now he looks bad, but at the end of the day we just need to get back to talking about black lives matter. We need to go back talking about the changes that a lot of people are trying to do to make this world a better place. We need to be spending more time talking about the clippers owner. Steve Bomber and the hundreds of millions millions of dollars that he has invested in trying to uplift. Lives that have been disadvantaged. Fantastic Pete in Los Angeles Times about all the things done spending hundreds of millions of dollars of his own money, trying to make the world a better place. We need any spending more time talking about the people like that and less time talking about people who are trying to fend Hitler comments. Well that was the part that look key and I know that you've said this a few times and I hear where you're coming from the to Sean Jackson is. Coming from a place where he just doesn't get it in his uninformed in, he's out of touch or however we WANNA characterizes. To history and Hitler? Okay. Stephen Jackson's a thoughtful guy. We've seen Stephen Jackson talk about this stuff a lot. We've seen Stephen Jackson. Be All over TV in light George. Floyd and everything that's happened subsequently, and he's been very thoughtful very eloquent in this, so when he comes out and says it does Sean Jackson was speaking the truth and just trying to educate people. It's really hard for me to separate this guy from those comments because this is a thoughtful guy. This is a guy that thinks before he talks. This is a guy that is willing to. Opine on issues, and the that's the. Lane, he picked to go in. Really stopped me dead in my tracks. Because this is, this is if the Sean Jackson was just not smart enough to know what he was saying. Okay fine I i. Guess You can convince me that I don't think he can convince me that Steven Jackson Jackson stupid. But I'm not trying to convince you a Stephen Jackson what I would say by Stephen Jackson is when you jump into somebody else's mess. In doing it maybe out of frustration. In, being fed up and you just say something then all of a sudden. You realize Oh. Let me. Go back in and last night. He had to go. We went on CNN, and he explained as I said earlier on the show. I I I didn't even know seeing him, but then I wanted to know. Deeply I said he wished he had explained hisself what he was trying to get at. And then once we played the clip. I understood okay. He thought that Jackson was trying to talk about the Eagle situation, but he jumped into it without really paying attention it it. Kinda bit him then he had to explain it was about the Philadelphia. Eagles Iran Cooper, and what the Eagles chose to ignore. We Riley. Was it ever until he brought it up? Excuse me. I don't think it was right and that this was never about Riley. Cooper in the eagles until Jackson late at the two but I think, but I think why. He inflated the tooth because he didn't do his homework at the time that he issued his posted Boughton I'm with Sean. He's speaking the truth based on that. I believe that he was thinking that the Shah was talking about the eagles the eagles handle. handle the Riley Cooper situation. That's why said he's only speaking the truth. And he was speaking the truth about the way the eagles handle a riley cooper versus other black players including shot Jackson. That's what I took from his apology in in going back and cleaning things up. That's the way I took what he thought. But when you dive in to somebody, else's Miss, and you not sure what's in that water. You go keep it. and. That's what happened to Steven Jackson Govan inserted hisself. It is something that he probably shouldn't inserted itself into without thoroughly investigating it, and then it wind up biting. Key made some great catches in your career, but don't ever made one like this until you what it is next morning show on seven hundred ten ESPN. So is it a fissile Raj? Can I take my? Man Let me tell you about this. There will be no three P. Right. Yes Go. Within. One shot of the catching zeo right? No, you're. Behind Yeah on net refund you getting their ads right? There's a nightrider thing for travis because he has won the best movies from semester stallone worsening. Of course, it was sly stallone seventy four th birthday on Monday, so we thought we'd pay them. Both dommage and forty percent of the vote goes to Travis and Ian Keyshawn, both about thirty percent of the vote of pizza. Anyway out here. Job Travis congratulations. You now have your fourth victory. It was a long time in making long time coming, but go ahead and do your acceptance speech right now. I, do like the key went with the I. Didn't lose because I quit before it happened. That's good I'll take whatever help I got from you or anybody else when you are coming. From behind when you're trying to close that gap that. What is it available to? You it's me. Your speech. Package down, let let I was GONNA. Say I get my moment here in the Sun. It was my fourth win I. Think I've one to the last five, so that's forty percent of these things. I'm feeling pretty good about it. Let's do another one tomorrow all right. We'll. Do y'all could do him after next Friday. I don't know why you just taking. You're losing. Whip you. Stay here? Taking a shaken, we'll be going with me. Jay Wheel along with chef Borokini. Do some more investigating else. I WANNA. Take you. Regard Copyright. Trademark. You know key shots top ten instead of top team. Like to see how that goes. I'M GONNA DO CHEF BR L Z, so. You know what people leave places. They get the taking stuff. Coaches, football coach, they lead a playbook state. I'll tell though body. They did in the middle of the night. That's what I was just GonNa Start taking stuff. Vietnam, Assu. For trying to use a intellectual property. Prompting more lady antebellum. Who Won't get to Old Lady coming up. The try to tell my stories on air. Key Kasumi Travis he's going to sue me. Trying to say that you know mysterious. was his idea all along. Cereal that's fine. That's all yours keep. What's the best catch you ever made in your NFL career? Do you remember one like just that? You kind kinda surprise, yourself or something. I know. Has So many of them Travis. Does just you know you got to nine hundred kids in career in the eleven year careers so many, but there's one in nineteen, ninety seven in this is amazing that I never see to highlight on any of the NFL shows or anything like that, but that's okay because I'm GonNa. Make I'm GonNa make them bring out that highlight this year it's against the Miami Dolphins in Nineteen, ninety seven. Going I'm going in the end zone going from from left to right an shallow cross. In they're trying to throw the ball, neal was trying to throw the ball to bet in the back of the end zone and I was coming underneath. It I didn't. I know the play. I knew the play and everything, but it didn't look like the trajectory of the football was actually going to somebody. It was like he was throwing it which I. Honestly Picky was just throwing it out the back of the end zone. And I just stuck my hand up. In jump. In mid-flight in it stuck right to my glove. Bam one hand I didn't I didn't bring the other hand in nothing to clutch. It stuck abroad broadest straight down like upon the basketball flat-footed Ryland right in the end zone touchdown. It was one of the craziest catches that I haven't made my career. That's a great catch, and that's scored a touchdown, and that is something that I'm sure you'll bring to your your new show that you can show over and over again, but you did not save a three year old. Phil. Really wanted to be in that one that would fit. That's an amazing catch. Philip Banks Twenty eight year old guy. He Played College football down here me at Saddleback College in Mission Viejo. There was a fire in the building. and a mother was getting ready to drop her child out of a third storey building. To get out of the fire until you know, that was the better option. And Philip banks ran to the site to see if he could help and caught this kid who was thrown out of the window and saved his life a three year, old kid, being thrown from three stories up. That's the greatest catch that I've heard in a long long time. and honestly it. By doing this and I don't WanNa. Be around five by dropping out the buildings and stuff like, but I think if if I was put in that position. All, make their grab I'm. If I'm put in that position. I'm GonNa make their kitsch because that's a life or death situation. It right I mean you don't sure hands. Stole hands is Raj may be I believe. He makes Kitsch. Well there was another guy that was getting ready to make the catch. There was another guy there, and this is. This is what Philip Blink said instinct. There wasn't much thinking i. just reacted i. just did it the guy who was there with me. It looked like he wasn't going to catch him. So that's why stepped in I, just wanted to make a better catch, so he realized there was a guy with bad hands, and he stepped in to make the. World Travel. There is one catch not to poo poo. There is one kiss that we saw last year. That was better. And that was made by a seventeen year old boy, who was walking down the street and just happened to notice. A baby was dangling out of a window I had to look it up because I knew I saw something that was very charming. I remember he's this guy that threw shade. Nelson Galore. No No, no, no, no, no, this is! This is the guy who was over in. Turkey and he was just walking down the street and happened to notice that baby was dangling out of a window to baby fail and this guy seventeen year old boy as common. It's coolish all. Just caught the baby and like just kept it moving like he was like nothing. I'll show you the video absolutely amazing. The baby was on the Ledge. Right yeah yeah. And just. I mean. I don't know like I could see myself as having pretty good hand eye coordination. Sorry I'm watching the Keyshawn I. Don't need. I. Don't know how block that out. Don't know how you block out the life or death aspect of West about to go down in order to make that kind of kids. Maybe just click in right. You just have that moment where you're most lizard. Part of your brain just gotta get their decision to make that decision, but if I ever and put it in a position like that I'm you know? I'll be, confident. For Show For sure coffee by is. Key to make sure your exaggerate. Or, have you found and you said? I'll send it for social and enough Senate to you guys as well. But I got a whole bunch of now. Are Gossip stood? Brand. Hockey I go. Out again if you won't. have been ask if you just want to put a three hour together it watch it on ESPN I can do. We know. Number Seventeen, right you. That's how you got the number seventeen all right We've talked about this before the name change in Washington. It's GonNa Happen, and it's going to happen fast because somebody flex their muscles. That's next on the morning show on seven ten ESPN now. That key, not bad travel ban. I now know I. Now understand why they call him me shod. I'm. And is clearly not meant for him is. Not. Swear to you. I swear to you. My mother's grave on my life, it was not meant from impede. Hill that was being for Qui. We practice. Practice everything right so I know all the plays. I'm the outlet on the other side, but if he thought his down watch what I do. I. Unlike hair array God's green earth. Lord. To. Really. Look at it. I don't know who to play. It looks like a tiny industry. Now. Is One. Way He had his hands up. He thought for sure announced coming to him I'd like Ahdab key you just that's. Getting Ready to be on TV and. nope watch this. You. WanNa know why he's the double picking the trap. Not. Too, bad all right. We've talked about this and we knew that it was coming. We knew that once all the big money guys were telling Washington's football team. Hey, you got to change this name. This is GonNa work and they said well. We're going to discuss it. We have in depth conversations well. This is going to accelerate the process Nike says. We're not going to sell your stuff. Walmart says we're not going to sell your stuff. Target and Dick's both said. We're not gonNA steal your stuff and then yesterday Amazon basically. Basically said. We're not going to sell. Your stuff can't move any merch with that name on it without logo on it. It's a rap. They're going to change it and they're not to do it sooner than later. Because the whole point of this is, they want to sell the t shirts, caps and the jerseys and all this stuff, if no one will move them, if Amazon and Walmart and target and Dick's and Nike I'll say well. We're not going to sell it. That's it. It's over. Yeah, but here's what I would say. To that Travis, they're getting it off the shelves because they're getting ready to re stock with new stuff anyway, so they already know. Let's just get it out of here. Because new stuff is coming, we may not know those conversations right, but I'm sure that Dan Snyder in in in Washington I. Don't even know what to call him. I was about to say the Redskins. I'm trying not to say it. In football team. Has had conversations with some of these advertisers and some of these. Big companies that push their merchandise in there, saying okay, this is what we're GONNA do until you're ready to give us the new logos in new merchandise, but we're GONNA. Take this old stuff off our damn shelves. They have. Let. It be known that the plans are now reportedly. It's removed odd native, American imagery from the logo, but they do plan on maintaining the color scheme. So now the latest is that team plans on scrapping. Travers basically using. Native Americans as a logo and they do still plan on using the color scheme and I. I know the Color Sky Bet. Costumes cool. I'm I'm happy to see that we've got here. Is Sad to me that it took so much financial pressure for Mr Snider to do the right thing. I'm sorry I'm not going to. Always tolls were doing the right thing. To pretend as if he's some sort of hero or leader new conversation, but I'm going to acknowledge that at the very least. He looks as if he's. Finally stopped using the slur and try to give us the Okeydoke like it's some sort of like in a good thing. You guys seem honor. That he has something ready to go, because it can't be a surprise, have the eventually somebody who's going to force his hand, and it was the economic rating there was A. Sheet of paper and sample. What are we? Already, but here's here's what happened in what I would believe. What happened is that they've worked on some stuff over the years. That people have come to him with in these conversations is not yesterday in fact L. Z granderson broke something many years ago about this. SHAMELESS PLUG FOR L Z, but he got some stuff that they've already seen. They have an idea of the direction in which they WANNA go. In there revisiting again, right going to revisit it again because again to just jump in and try to rename NFL because. If you come up with something and I. Don't mean to put these guys on blast, but whatever if you come up with a name like the titans? Tennessee. Team to change the name they went from the oilers to the titans. They've rebranded that team will titans is about generic in May is. You can come up with it's just it's like wildcats or something. There's just it doesn't have something to it, so you'd like to have something ready to go. Because eventually the name that they do have was going to have to go, and it's not just something generic like that. Well we'll. We'll come up with some names for them there let us come out some names that I would like to see the Washington lobbyist, but that's just because liberties. But let's let's come up with some names, and then we'll send. You know Mr Snider these of the social media. Some gestures, so they don't get you know a boring name to your point, Travis now. If I want the lobbyists traffic, I'm going to assume he wants to watch it and. Now. I want something that is embarrassing for Dan. Snyder I want something that reflects his. He's been the owner of that for the better part of twenty years and I think. Playoff Games. So how about the Washington twos I`Ma. Like. You you can go to Washington shorties. You can just put like the Roman numeral. ooh, the side of the helmet, the Washington power trips. ooh, the movies to PT's. So? Do you think the watching certified? Hundreds would be good for Wayne has been so no. Well you'RE GONNA. Have to come up with see. It's not just the name you gotTa have a logo that goes along with it. That's why I think the twos is a good idea. You can have the little Roman. Columns right little to this is how many playoff games I win every two decades it works on. What what would be what's in the? What's what's in that area? That would be. Historical kind of like what would what would be an area that would be historical. You look at what they've had with the figure of their hockey team. It's the capitals think the baseball team hits the nationals. You think of the other baseball team. They had before they left. They were the senators so all the stuff that the names they have the wizards aside it has to do with government right. It has to do with the fact that it's yes. That's what what? Why sitting the lobbyists, The Washington lobbyists you that, too. That's that seemed like this doesn't roll off the time, yeah! It sounds to political. The thinners, don't he's? Right they're done. They're the twins now the rangers. Maybe it's confusing. Let's see what about. How about this chocolate cities. Ready to make a lot of people mad in that area. This is the challenge right all kidding aside the challenges. This is not an easy game to do right. This is not an easy thing to name a team to come up with the logo we saw in the rams rebranded. People like wait. What does that you get used to something and obviously the name they have now needs to go the logo they have now needs to go, but just throwing something against the wall in lesage, generating is GonNa Really Rub people the wrong way. Well I mean they've already been rubbed the wrong way just for the name so deniro lease a step in the right direction. So if you want to call yourself, The Washington, where warriors than fine. It worked Golden State. Yeah. Man. It is I'll send Dan Snyder. Note and We'll start working on a logo. We can come up with it is. That pro football college football is not going to be played at least at one part of the country. That's coming up next on the morning show on seven ten ESPN.

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Reflections On A Week Of Protests And Unrest

Curious City

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Reflections On A Week Of Protests And Unrest

"Hey, this is curious. City producer Steven Jackson. It's been quite a week. And as you all know, a big part of our mission is listening to you taking your questions and getting you some answers, but the other part is just being transparent about how journalists do their work. And with that in mind. We thought we'd share what it's been like for some of WBZ's journalists this week. Who've been out in Chicago trying to make sense of what's happening in this historic moment? So He. My name is Natalie more and I'm on the race class desk at Yeezy. This week is draining, but it's important to tell the stories that are going on whether it's Copa, nineteen, or if it's about all the unrest that we're saying. It's nonstop particularly for black reporter its grueling, but the work is necessary. Monday morning I went to south shore a neighborhood on this outside. And there was an activist, a young black activists who having a press conference to say no more looting. Let's find ways to rebuild our community in our community. We go what's next? We do. Have to destroy anything to be heard while we got be stuck. At got there and there were a lot of police. There was a large gathering of people and it's almost like a showdown. Young people yelling at the police. because. It. was also a lot of talk about these businesses. Here are not owned. By black folks, they come into our community and act. Still! Several years ago, there was a shooting of a young unarmed black man two blocks away, so they were saying his name. Live Now! My son and his back. And I still haven't got. And then there were other mothers and sisters, talking about their loved ones who had died at the hands of police. Get Away with it. They'RE GONNA kill. Every single delegate to wake up in my sister's. The activists, not that one of the guys who was out there was an agitator. He had never seen him before. He also was black, but he just kept interrupting out. I don't know if it's true. I mean anybody can to public space, but I think there's a heightened sense of who. WHO is out there? Who is here? Who is with us? Who is not? Trying to get on. That's. Prototypes growth don't never noticed. It got thicker with people and the police just cut off seventy first street. It was tense. I mean these are young black people who don't look middle class who don't look so-called presentable. You know with their tattoos cigarettes dangling probably under employed There's certain respectability politics around. This should look like so you just have to do your best to bring nuance to stories because it could have been easy to say a bunch of young black twentysomethings. Yelled at police in people are destroying their neighborhood there certain things that are just easier for people to maybe digest than to start looking at the. Issues that are they are around police, saying or economic development? So there's just there's a lot to to process all the time and it's not going to stop anytime soon. Be No. Won't justice. Night, we want the consenting rearrangement. Hey I'm wbz reporter Monica Hang and so far this week has been. Kind of what has? On Saturday? My daughter had begged and pleaded to be able to go to the protest downtown with some of her friends as he public health reporter, I was not comfortable with her being a large crowd, and so I said okay you can go, but I have to watch to make sure you have an and ninety five mascot it all times, and you're not getting closer than six feet to people that turned out not to be possible, but at least you had the mask on and tried to keep her distance. I've covered you know. Peace Rallies Women's rallies a lot of the kwan protests, but it was. It was very different. But struck them, we got down. There was out. The tons of people pouring into the loop. And immediately you know hanging outside of their cars, saying hey, do you want some free? Basques do need water to everything you need of squad of hand sanitizer you want, and just the amount of young people, young people with this positive energy optimism, and that feeling of. Hope, in a in a city that I've been covering for three decades. Was Pretty astonishing. For a moment in that crowd is all these people of all these different races and. From all parts of the city converged together with one voice. I thought. Maybe maybe we're not GONNA be. This is permanently divided. And segregated city may be with these young people. Maybe, there's hope that. They can create the kind of solidarity and empathy. That's been missing hair to really change things. We left around four o'clock. My daughter was just telling you that you never felt so inspired and hopeful. But then, by the time we watched the news at night now protests, which started out peaceful Turner Rights. By early evening, cars smashed fires in the middle of the streets and buildings looted. All the windows had been broken out and everything inside was gone with riders set cars on fire throughout downtown. The overturned squad cars set squad. The focus was on looting and destruction I wondered you know. Did we just imagine all of that? That positively and with that protests seemed to be about. Then the next day I was assigned to talk to folks after a rally in Evanston, and that's when I talked to young people who were describing the same type of thing I saw the day before it was nice peaceful the way we wanted to. Look. Really, nice I also didn't see as many police here as I did yesterday in Chicago. Compared comparison to a lot of places, so it was very peaceful on both sides. Immediately said wait a minute you were Chicago to you've seen the coverage. How does that square with the Rally Yousof? Got Everything together car and they said that basically they've felt such goodness positively. D. and they felt so protected in that rally. Not feel threatened by a single protesters. The accurate I felt was from the police and yet the rally the people saw in the media and hey I'm part of the media didn't really reflect that. It's frustrating when you were there. In it and you were you saw? Instead of just focusing on the mass media that's being produced I ask. Everyone asks her friends that were at the protests to show them videos of what it looks like to show them. What the reality of it was! I took typing I don't know if you want like. Someone, who has been covering news for three decades I? Know you cover the thing that will. Make people stand up a notice and fires and looting that thing, so I get that, but I also think that it can end up giving a distorted view of kind of what the majority of the people who were at that event experienced and I just I. Just don't want that to get lost. You can't agree. I'm chip Mitchell I report about criminal justice for WBZ and this week has been eye opening, so it Saturday night after the protests, we were hearing a lot of police scanner traffic about looting on the south side, but the mayor didn't really address it at her press conference the next morning so I had to the south side to see what was going on there. I started in back of the yards on forty seventh and Ashland over several hours. I worked my way generally south. Through West Englewood down to Auburn Gresham so few miles. I was on and around South Ashland Avenue for more than six hours I didn't see a single other reporter in any medium. I don't know what I was expecting. I didn't know what I was getting into. I had no idea the scale of the looting that I was going to see. Pretty quickly just south of forty seventh. Groups of young people looked kind of disorganized breaking into jewelry and pawnshops one after the other and they'd come out with arms full of necklaces, heaving away big TV's trying to jam into a car that was not big enough for it and taking a lot of time. No police around in fact I saw police SUV. Drive right by as if he had noticed what was going on. I saw one seen after another cell phone shops, pharmacies liquor stores. Looting that was involving a lot of people. Find it made it to a stretch on route. Seventy six and Ashland couple big grocery stores biggest grocery stores in the neighborhood ones all these others, Walmart men and women of all ages grabbing a shopping cart, going in. They're coming out with a cart, full packed, unloading the cart into the car, and going back for more hundreds of people, mothers and fathers taking advantage of the situation. Yes, but also. Also, getting a lot of stuff that maybe they don't have a chance in normal times, if we can call it normal to fill up a card at Walmart, and they were going to do it this time, and and I would see mother with a cart full of food and household essentials. You know she wasn't going trick and a younger woman was helping around loaded into the back of the car. One family after another hundreds of people involved with us. It was a sight to behold. People have been poor for a long time. So all it takes is the right situation that happen for people to unleash. There's young man in his early thirties. Here's waiting for a bus. While the buses were still running, he will have a ride in for thousands of years, and it's always. It's always a combination of things. This is what people do when they are desperate. And he didn't think that it was such a bad thing. When Martin Luther King that, didn't they? Riot? Did they riot? He that first off the do up US Leon, and then next to him as I'm talking to him. In older woman shed pullback. Great hair she. She later told me she was seventy one. But I understand that, but like affects the up your town and got nothing to win. She was disgusted by it. She could understand the impulse to take property, but she thought it was very counterproductive. At one point at seventy I in Ashland, a liquor store that had been shut tight with corrugated metal shutters, but someone had pride a piece of the shot up, and then in the window behind it, and so there was this like three foot by three foot opening that people could duck in and and go in and there were people for. Oh I I've been watching it for probably ten or fifteen minutes streaming in one after another coming in, and then come back out with our arms, full of bottles and boxes of blues. Few minutes later finally, one squad car comes arrives in. An officer gets out. He's got this big canister of pepper spray I assume he stood at the opening of the liquor store as it's getting looted and one person at a time is coming out. Each one who came out, he stood there and sprayed them the pepper spray, and it was it was. It was a crazy scene, but it was because it was like came out. They took turns coming out. They got sprayed. And then they. You know trying to wipe there is. It was almost like they were taking what was coming to them that that's what it seemed like. Then his partner gets out, and those two officers stood guard, and in front of that liquor store and the looting stop. After about ten minutes, they left and looting started right back up again at that same liquor store and went on and on and on. Even as the owners brother came to it was there standing and watching it, there was nothing he could do. The next morning. We need all. Mayor Lightfoot is at a press conference. Cheat attributed the neighborhood looting to quote a criminal element to and David Brown the police superintendent he was, he was next to her on the ground in the field, and I watched these loaders strategically. He talked about the neighborhood leaders as criminal rings that were outsmarting the police. Officers and hit the target. They intended Kim. Fox talked about how office was working with federal agencies to hold outside agitators accountable what they go and they advocate and it was just it was just frankly absurd. Kicking working on at for era, people who know that. So I try to make sense of this. You know why public officials are focusing on this idea that the looting was organized by outsiders when what I saw in broad daylight for hours and hours on, Sunday was just the opposite. At No, I'm not in their heads, but I think it's just easier to think about looting as a problem that can be solved by arresting a few people or a few dozen people rather as an upheaval tied the property and desperation. A think it's easier to conduct criminal investigations than to come up with investment for these communities investment on a scale that would make them less volatile in less violent, and that would also avert repeats of the unrest. We've seen over this last week. We bought the too much already. Why go through this sin? The people who knew? If, thousands of people in the country are doing something. You have to have a high around. Why is thousands? If thousands of people are doing some in cities and states all over in all you can say. Why would they break in our I would just say we got a raise our understanding to see why that happening. What I what I realize this? A. My Name is Sarah Carb and I'm a reporter with WBZ. The week has been very tiring and both heartbreaking and inspiring at the same time. Heartbreaking, it's definitely been just seeing young kids teenagers having to declare you know I wanna live or don't shoot or. Feeling the need to say like I am a human. Being in my life should be protected. I mean this is so basic and that we have kids. Having to say that is heartbreaking. Mean it's. It's. It's sad. Sunday evening I went to a protest that was happening of kids from Hyde Park. One moment that really stuck with me is that they walked onto lake shore drive, and then they all took a knee, and raised their hand in the sign of black power, and I don't know seeing the the skyline in the distance, and then seeing kids kneeling on. For Dr was somehow really. Moving in made me sort of think like it's is sad, it's like it's a burden that these these kids carry. that. I. Guess I wish they didn't have to carry. And then last night. Ends and another protests where one thing that they did is they repeated eight time. Bomb I, WANNA breathe. Think Eddie mother. Who saw or heard? George Floyd. You know begging for his mother. You can't be a human being not not feel for that. As mother of three bucks, sons. Like you always fear every time they leave the house. And even a black husband is the world is really dangerous place. Type I've three sons. Ages Twenty, two, twenty and fifteen. And on Sunday they all went downtown because they wanted to participate in the protests. My Son, my twenty year old son said to me. Why aren't you coming? And I was like well, I can't call him because it's you know it's my job not to. Not to go to my job to report on it, but I can't go and participate and he was just like Oh. What do you value more? Your job or fighting for what's right? I really feel like he was sort of challenging something. That's such a fundamental thing of what we question all the time I mean all the time. You. I don't know that there was a great answer to that. But We soldier on I guess. The more information out there the more voices out there the more the truth will come out the more the discussion will be deeper and better so I think I just sort of say that my role is to put the microphone in places and let people voice be amplified. That was WBZ's Sarah Carp chip Mitchell Monica ing and Natalie more. As always curious city is here to take your questions. If you've got a question about the ongoing protests or the pandemic, or if you're wondering something else about this moment or something else about our region, find us at WBZ, dot org or on facebook or twitter at wbz curious city. Curiousity is supported by the Coenen Family Foundation. I'm Steven Jackson.

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Lakers Secret Workouts

Lakers Nation News Feed

05:46 min | 4 months ago

Lakers Secret Workouts

"Hello, Lakers nation welcome in overlain here for Lakers nation dot com, your home for everything Lakers today. We get to talk about rumors a conspiracy theories. That's right. Put Your Tin Foil Hats Q.. The X. Files Music. Let's go. Are the Lakers holding secret practices Gosh I? Love it. Guys make sure before we dive into it. The you subscribe right here to the Lakers nation Youtube, channel, and then ring the notification bell. Bell right there. Get notified every time we have new videos coming out all right, so the rumor comes from Celtics. Lover Himself Bill. Simmons starts this this comment all right. This was on a podcast that the Lakers are holding secret practices. Here's what he said Have you heard there's this L. A. Room right now that I haven't been able to crack of all the Lakers are playing at some rich guy's house. That's what he says Kay. Jj, rediker, who is on the podcast with him, said all right, so in regards to the Lakers, I've heard similar things, obviously nothing imposed on social media, supplying us with the evidence that we need, but there is a gentleman I. think is houses in Belair. WHO has a staple center replica in his backyard? He goes on to say my assumption is those guys are working out there. That would make a lot of sense. Okay, so this is spread quite a bit and the first thing I want to know is that Jj Redick says my. My assumption not that he's heard. They're working out there that he's assuming they're working out at that particular location now first of all, does that exist? Yes, hundred percent eight exists there is a guy named Steven Jackson and he does have a home in biller that has a replica staple center, floor, full-court, bells, and whistles. All of that NBA teams have been known to work out there the sun-sentinel how to story from years ago on the Miami Heat practicing their right teams. Go there. They use it it. It's available. It's known as location so. Jay rettig and you're thinking. Where could the Lakers be going? That's probably the first place. They'll pop up in your mind if you know you know. Hey, training centers are closed. The training facilities not not acceptable, so it would make a lot of sense and we've also heard that Lebron. James and Anthony. Davis have been scouring the area for places for the guys. Guys to work out, and so if you if you are Lebron, if you're a D and you're looking for a place to get the Lakers or workout in that would probably be the place to go, so that makes a lot of sense now. Are they keeping things secret? Keep it off social media. Yeah, that would also probably make a Lotta sense to do. But is it a full team workout well first of all, Bill? Simmons said all the Lakers no one hundred percent, not true one hundred percent. Why am I so confident? That goes Dwight. Howard is not there and he's not the older one, but we. He's the one we know. He's been in Atlanta. That's where he was was doing his social distancing. Himself Isolating Dwight. Howard has not been in La, so he's clearly not so it's not all of the Lakers. It's not truly a full team practice, and the other thing that I wanNA question is. Is, it just hey. The Lakers have been working out there. And suddenly that rumor of your played, the telephone game turns into all the Lakers at the same time. Work out because that's what Simmons is kind of insinuating here or implying here, is that all of the Lakers were working out at the same time, which would be in violation of NBA rules. Isn't it also possible that Lebron was able to get the guys into? Into this gym and they have one or two guys. Come in at a time. Sanitize the place when those guys leave, and then more guys come it like that's also possible, and you would still be able to start that rumor that hey. The Lakers have been practicing 'cause that wouldn't necessarily be untrue, but they could have been following social distancing guidelines and still getting in. That's still that's still plausible but is it also possible that the entire teams been going in there and working out sure and if you're if you're the Lakers new looking for the motive? This team needs all the all the edge. They can get right. They've already lost homecourt advantage that exist anymore. That's gone as soon as you go to. Orlando and everybody's playing on the same courts. There is no homecourt advantage out the window. They worked so hard for that all season, the number one seed in the western conference and it's gone. Just think about a potential match up with the clippers you would. Would have had essentially seven home games for the Lakers. Yeah, there would have been a dozen or so clippers fans in the crowd, but that would be about it right. It will be seven home games for the Lakers now instead you get to play in an empty arena with no fans. That's going to be Irian quiet and all of that it's Leonard. Dream right. That's the situation that you're now in. And there are some people who say Oh homecourt doesn't matter. If you good team should win, no matter what homecourt does matter unless you're the Sacramento Kings in its game, seven homecourt absolutely matters so the Lakers have already lost something so would it makes sense for them to be looking for some other kind of edge to give back that advantage possibly possibly right if they've been getting work in and other. Other teams have not and they're able to keep their chemistry. They're able to keep the momentum that they had four months ago. Almost then, yeah, look at that might make sense to as a as a plausible thing that the Lakers could do. There've been pictures of Lebron. James going at open run workouts. Ben Simmons is there as well. Alex Caruso has been been playing in gyms and things so. Look if they pulled it off. Okay, we'll see what happens. Hopefully it allows the Lakers to keep their chemistry as they head towards the NBA playoffs coming up on July thirtieth. Let me know your thoughts. Guys have the secret workouts. Really been taking place fired off the comments down below. Don't forget to follow Lakers. Nation on social media at Lakers nation on twitter and facebook at Lakers nation official on INSTAGRAM WANNA. Follow me. You can find me at Trevor Underscore Lane on twitter at Trevor Lane NBA on Instagram till next time, stay safe and.

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Wiggin' Out

Highly Questionable

21:12 min | 2 years ago

Wiggin' Out

"Indochino is the world's most exciting made to measure men's warehouse company, unparalleled fit and comfort with suits. And shirts made tear exact measurements in a wide selection of high quality fabrics and colors dead any premium Indochino suit for just three hundred and fifty nine dollars at Indochino dot com. When entering HQ at checkout, that's Indochino dot com promo code HQ for any premium suit for just three hundred and fifty. Nine dollars and free shipping into chino is also expanding into casual clothing. You're made to measure Chino's at an introductory price of seventy nine dollars. Hello and welcome again to highly questionable this guy over there and the highly questionable shirt is my father. Bobby, this is Michael Smith. What do you like on the show today? Michael words at a wise to the Wiggins brothers, you'll water with the product Puerto that Texas. Jimmy Butler smart. They most interested in the clippers. I love this list, right? Michael yet, Brooklyn, the Knicks and the clippers. And basically what Jimmy Butler is saying to you that a top twenty and top thirty player in this league when he changes destinations, he doesn't have to care about winning it all. He could care about market because he's going the bad teams and he's so far behind already even when he was in Minnesota, he might as well live somewhere that he likes. And that's all Jimmy Butler is choosing here because you're in a desperate place in the NBA when any team in the league could add Jimmy Butler, and it still might not be good enough to beat the Golden State warrior. I love how to as ago you were saying how the Lakers got LeBron and the clippers counter with legions. I need you to keep that same energy today because the clippers can get really good really fast. If I were to clippers, I would favor to be Butler now as opposed to risking him going somewhere else and sign up four hundred ninety million dollars and also making yourself more appealing to one. Leonard who agent were Naski already says is really looking hard at the clippers next summer. What's interesting about this though, is that lebrons arrival to the Lakers has got not one, but two top players in the NBA of voiding him rather than joining him in purple and gold. All I know he's gotta get out of Minnesota very soon very soon because butchered butcher is going to finish with these needs is going to ground. He's facing just ducks. Looks like a butcher. You can imagine it right with the apron, the blood he should. He should do games that way with an apron governing cow's blood. Is been Jackson right to create the Gilo Wiggins. Brothers, Jimmy Butler drags the timber wolves to the playoffs for the first time in thirteen years, the wolves up thirteen points worse when he's off the court versus when he's on wings and towns had the worst defense in the league when Butler said and when they all play together, they were ten points per one hundred possessions better than the opposition. And yet, Nick Wiggins, Andrew's brother, tweets, honolu-, irresponsive news that Jimmy Butler is demanding or requesting a trade out of Minnesota. So which Jimmy Butler responds with a workout video saying Hollywood, you keep that same energy. And then once Stephen Jackson ESPN analyst, Stephen Jackson, he jumps in with the reenactment of what he believes should be the conversation between Nick Wiggins and what he says. They heartless Andrew, Wiggins. So which Andrew? Wiggins response, all heads always hating. You wasn't that special anyway and in the product off the Texas Stephen Jackson clamps back with this. Say little. You got a lot of the kid. You gotta live talent and all hope you have a good year. I hope someone you can find some hard and find some passion for the game and have a good year. I really wish you the best. Oh, I'm farting. Thank God. I'm happy to see party Bom on. I never been never been that. You know that. I'm from those who I'm cut under the old law. You know what I'm saying, respected a checking. All that. I'm ahead of that same energy when wherever I go all that same man make sure your interest rate what you see me bro. I, I'm pretty sure you know why I am actually interest-rate just focus on finding some hard and having a good year. I wish you the best. You got an auto town. Just find that, please don't try to do that with me bro. You know what I'm saying? Just keep their saying manage. I catch in traffic when anybody is making all dark alley teams for all time off the NBA. This guy is on it. You talk to the Randolph's of the world. This guy is on at other guys who are tough, will tell you that this guy is not to be trifled with, but if I am Nick Wiggins and my brother just got most of the shots in Minnesota that Jimmy Butler was getting. I would understand why it is that I would like the Jimmy Butler was gone because now my brother is getting all those touches brother was supposed to be wanted to best to. Players in the NBA light, Jimmy Butler. He was the guy that people say Cleveland was crazy for trading for Kevin love, and yet he's underachieved for the most part in his career, never experienced winning until Jimmy Butler got there. And now you're going at it with Steven Jackson. When let me tell you once again, young book you don't want that smoke. Why I couldn't believe you. You are nice lease guys. Stephen Jackson on the air with all of the year. You said he said, well, she'll blues helping. Yeah, that was off the air, poppy poppy. We're still cameras. I don't know him. I don't know him. The number you dialed is not a working number. Please check the number dial again. Extracted number. Did the NBA let my AC so you get no fine in a situation where the maximum fine could have been two point, five million dollars, but there seems to have been an agreement that Mark Cuban would instead give four times that amount to women's causes and that that would be the fine along with this shame. This is what I will say about this entire thing, and you could penalize them more if you wanted to understand it, Mark, Cuban boyish owner who's always been a rebel, look broken on television yesterday. This thing is embarrassing to him and that report shows you pretty clearly that he seems to have been unaware of what was happening. He left the business side to the business side, so I understand why you'd want Mark Cuban penalize more, but that guy that I saw on television yesterday has been already burdened by how much he's been penalized with the shame of this. No, when you're a billionaire, ten million dollars is not enough to pay for not paying attention. It's not enough to give to women's causes, but not give it enough of a damn to do more than you did that said, what else could the league have done? What a suspension have been over the top? No, not at all, but I'm. Sure if there's satisfactory length of suspension because he eventually he's going to come back, which leads to the more extreme penalty city have been Donald sterling's. Should they have taken a team from him? I didn't see a guy on a jump yesterday with Rachel Nichols who was unfit to continue being an NBA owner. So now what I would like to see for Mark Cuban, besides bearing their public shame besides designating money toward women's equality causes besides delegating to his new CEO is dedicated himself to standing up and taking the lead on its issue beyond his own workplace, but making sure that this doesn't continue in other workplaces be a face of this issue. Don't just fix it through money at it and move on. Well, the NFL listen to everyone royals when he says Ruff, indie, Pasha. 'cause I've gone too far that says it all, doesn't it. Aaron Rodgers. Kirk cousins, and Joe flacco have all said the NFL is being a little too protective of its quarterbacks. But here's the thing. The NFL has never listened to players when it comes to how to properly officiate the game. The NFL believes it knows what's best for the players or better yet it knows what's best for its bottom line, which is to air on the side of caution and keep these franchise quarterbacks healthy even if they don't like being babied. I thought it was a weird thing that in sports argument culture where we can debate just about anything. There was consensus on this. All of us believe that the way that quarterbacks are being treated is too gentle, but I can't believe that there's yet another upgrade to this situation, the quarterbacks themselves from better offense and better safety or telling you the rules are ridiculous. You might wanna listen to them. What are sort of prize you agree with brokers. Set anything. He said, my father's a jerk who shouldn't be on television. I would agree with him. Way too quick to press on that Davies for retiring at half time by we, you mean me, right? Yes. That was you that's directed toward you. That is not directed toward me. I did not crush Ron Davis on the show and call him a quitter, but he talked to Dominic Foxworth of the undefeated and there was a human being underneath that quitter that we have been calling a quitter on television. Everybody wanting to laugh at him and the bills, and he was in pain and his heart wasn't in it. And at least we have a little more understanding today. And next time we might want to rain down judgement on national television a little slower with more facts. I didn't elect. Love you. It's own there. Lack understanding. When I when I say quit, I did not call him a quitter, but let me ask you a question one day and laboratory is Dave is going to go down to some kind of trailblazer. Is he going to be a pioneer is this is the beginning of what might be a trend. Do you think? So you think other people got the nerve to walk out of half tack? Well, that answers your question right there whether or not we were too quick to go too hard of Davis. And by we it wasn't just people like me, talking heads who never played beyond high school. It wasn't just fantasy nerds. It was wait for it. Actual players who to everybody's knowledge, it was unprecedented for somebody to quit and retire at halftime of an NFL game. Now, all that, it doesn't matter what I think. Doesn't matter what he thinks. Doesn't matter what he thinks. Longest Monte Davis's happy. I wish him well for yourself. It doesn't matter what he thinks all that all that matters. Right. You're right, bet. Bobby. Next on highly questionable. Let it be the person whose job this is the window down, Alex. He's putting the win. My son Steven show is brought to you by Gatorade thirst coin shirt. The proven the sport few. With delta in-flight entertainment. You can watch over one thousand hours of entertainment, all for free. The entire watch full seasons of top shows or choose from up to three hundred movies, HBO Showtime, TV games and more. Use our screener. Yours stream on your laptop, iphone, ipad or Android. Time to play the game this emotionally adrift to your question. You give us topics individually. Question them, busy writing, things notes. Do you question if they should scare the rest of the east yesterday on this show showed you some video of Marquel foles trying to make his way back from a broken jump shot Tribune. I did mock that the players Tribune is checking in with them here. What happened. Do what he can actually. One reason you got a lot of things going on. Listen to me. I'm a, who was your man is Ingo stop me. So it pretty good. And he just got nothing from and for the most part and in the Simmons and Embiid and Covington and start somebody on take they money. Absolutely. But at him in which incarnation do we know that this had no defenders. A lot of guys can do this without any defense. You gotta start somewhere. Simmons and Embiid job to get him that wide open. And so he basically goes John's please take a lot he meets, I mean, God in the game. When you need a bucket, you don't really have to call the play. Somebody who is so respectful and have people hassle. Somebody who had Myers good the Atlantic journey as much as you do cloud people like nobody's business. Coming bed. Powered makes a lot of free throws. And then he goes on the game and he doesn't make quite so many of them shag thing that convinced you that convinced pulling for this kid. Am I crazy? Or he showed us do look like. It did the shot itself in Lafraie father. Point that clean, hey, man, trust the process at the beginnings of the process. Do you question if these appropriate laugh at someone else's pain, or did you guys not just see what we showed here? There was a little kid on the screen and got hit in the face soccer ball, and all we did was laugh where adults it's a little bit. It's not cool, but there's a buffalo Colorado has a buffalo mascot, and it's not the cool one. The animal, it's the one that is called chip and has a teacher game. Oh, that was the opposite of the way that was supposed to go? No, what that reminds me. You know what they were. You know what? They were much Dan. That's right earlier this week. Confetti rocket. I guess the top of it. When you could have done that exact same thing that you not been? I couldn't done that. Imagine I wanna show that video right now. Right now in the middle and how scared my father is in slow motion. Now I want you to imagine me shooting. All right in his face, which is something could have happened. And breaking. What's his face look at Bobby. Bobby. Do you question the decision to go from this carjacker. I love questions like this. Video from North Carolina, right? This halfway, he'll push it. Always bear bear what it is shoot. He's just kind of animal is in trying to open the door. No, is the is the enemy, closing the door or the just. I think he's so scared of Kline at the door. Let it be the person whose job this is the window down. He's putting the winner. Here comes, what is that fair? That's right. And and fired a warning shot with that horn, I get very conscientious. Bear that said, look, everybody get out of here because of bears coming through this window going, get you really do. Go on, get you coward one talking to really Richter. You know, very happy because he bare lifted car, but they're not going to weed that happy when they get into the currency, what the bear behind. You know. Nice mail. That was unnecessary snorting Hong came through seem to be a little excessive. Rickie always wanted to play baseball in the majors. He was playing catch before. He could walk practically lived in the batting cages. He was behind home plate more than he was home and one day after all that hard work be found himself walking into a major league baseball stadium. After buying a ticket at the gate, a news bleed seats, scared by poll, but he was in there. No, Ricky never did play in the big leagues, but he did switch his car insurance to gyco proud partner of major league baseball, which saved him a lot. So while in all things were good. Questionable these broadcasts onto their hotel, beautiful south beach, Miami glibly game that lack self awareness see tells what's on television tonight. This guy's always intrigued. Tonight on the NFL network, Thursday night football jets in Brown's, oh, he tried to sell it with the jets and Browns feels like to like Spiderman memes pointing at each other. We're kind of the same. Nobody wants to watch this, but the Browns might win for the first time in a long time. They are favorites tonight. Let's check in with their last game though. They tend to mess things up. This was the way that last week should have been. For them, beautiful passport, them five kicked the extra point here. Take the lead. You beat the saints, Ray hurry or you miss you. What happened? The Browns kicker. He's gonna throw up on choose. Probably. Accent looks like he's gonna throw shoes and probably. Brown's should have Brown vomit as their helmet. Are you intrigue Michael? I'm actually three. You said a longtime six hundred and thirty five days to be exact about all the things you've seen in sports the last six hundred thirty five days and you have not seen a Brown's victory. Rookie quarterback Sam darnold short week at home. Cleveland, this is for you. Intrigue, oh, CC Intego you get in me. Tyrod Taylor is going to win a hat hand tonight. Barry, he sub for the task. He's going to make history claiming until I, you know what I mean? I'm telling you something that guy's gone to something else. Yeah, I told you that something four different ways the same thing again and again, and again. Pack. How's everybody spending on know looking for the first winning about fifteen years, and you know what? It's going to happen. They're going to lose last, what it's going to happen. Tonight on NBC sports, Washington Capitals, and Canadians, preseason hockey is what we're going to check in with here. Tie Domi. One of the most notorious fighters in the history of hockey has created and his son is named max and max does things like daddy did. So, yeah, undersize like his father. Sure. But the fist now this other guy doesn't seem to want to fight total indifference. What is that. Wow, okay. That's what that was. His face was filled with blood. He says the preseason it is, it's preseason, Michael, are you intrigue usually seems to avoid championship hangovers? It seems like the capitals all season were hell bent on having a literal hangover all drinking, but you intrigue CC too much, but he got looking because he's got the one in five. But tonight tonight's going through after somebody that's going to fight that not so me about these guys going to that and they're going to Bill over the place. Drag his over. That's right. That's right. What? What a big fight field after the ice, they're going to go to field dragon. Streaming on MLB dot TV, an on demand, replay of last night's Rockies dodgers game. The dodgers are pretty exciting right now. Yes, he'll plead when he broke into the national consciousness. He was not this good. We thought maybe we would get something like this. We've not seen this. He had five home runs into games, and then here is a pinch hitter to two game. That's how he finishes the sweep of the Rockies. Home runs into games then does that finish the Rockies that's enough to send the Rockies way. Good. The kind of thing that happened to you. You don't wanna play baseball anymore, Michael. Are you a tree? Yep. I'm intrigue after the game week said that that's the daughters of winning the west, and I believe him, especially since the two and a half up with ten games left for Colorado popular. You intrigue all CC intrigued. Are you kidding me? There is a new sheriff in town. He may your league baseball. He's nine this, yes, he'll point you know, when he threw that bad in the air. That's right. Nobody's Fool around within, you know, next time he goes to nobody's threat patient him because he's going to and falls, you know, these guys Bill like Mack truck. Was there too. That's only ever do that and thinking for Washington tomorrow. 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Hour 1 - We have a winner for the sad Padres photo bounty, we talk about Desean Jackson and college football

The Darren Smith Show

43:26 min | 3 months ago

Hour 1 - We have a winner for the sad Padres photo bounty, we talk about Desean Jackson and college football

"The White Glove guys? Previously on Darren Smith Show. Are you muted properly. Because now we've been unneeded at times and people have heard things that going on in my life and in your life and now this radio show is on the air, but there's zoom press conference with Kirby. I won't even tell you what was going on. As Zoom press conference was beginning describing in great detail, a dermatologist doctor appointment that I had earlier today at the show, a specific area of my body to Marty, and that may have been on the summum. I'm not quite clear. I don't know. Darren Smith Show. Is the one that brings us back soon. AM radio. Wants more. Now here's Darren. On xtra thirteen sixty. All right. Hey, they're gradings to you. It is a Thursday the ninth day of July for two thousand and twenty I am Darren Smith you are listening to extra thirteen sixty over on the AM side on the FM side, a couple of different options for you. One of three point three FM certain parts of the county. 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DOT COM, already of course will bail on this show whenever it's convenient for her i. always like to see where she's booked guests so that we can see what time Padre press conferences are happening I'm told today it's. It's going to be at about two PM, so we'll look forward to some more content coming your way. Sports SD, DOT COM, smart speaker, Siri and Alexa. They know how to start streaming us. They don't just alert you. Amazon delivers packages, but they are there to start streaming. All you have to do is ask three our show today. This is show number sixty, eight plus six, which I believe is seventy four complete programs now seventy four programs out of the IHEART studios here from the wind cave today for show number sixty. Good afternoon to you mortar well. Martha what's going on? Are. We doing today two o'clock to get it right, oh. What a coincidence! I A coincidence. The MARDI searched high and low for our guest today in Book Scott Bear in the two PM spots, so she could bounce from this show and listen to what sort of exciting commentary today we'll dare and I do believe I do believe the player today an slot will be. We'll Myers Oh. Yes, by all means, listen, if will. showed up at a time where there was no gas. We would say that is more important. It's very rare that I would say some good I would I would say that we'll Myers deserves your attention today even more so than mine even more so than perhaps the audience I would agree. Will Myers says things. He is not afraid he doesn't shy away from the questions, and of course here we have brand new questions to ask. We'll meyers this year such as so well. Where are you going to play? So will what do you think about aging? Will what do you think about perhaps playing some first base because we're not gonNA have a lot of time to figure this out with regards to Eric hosmer hitting lefty since it's only sixty game sprint. What do you think that? There's a lot to ask what's going on with your hair. How you feel in these days, is everything okay? What's going on? We heard some troubling stuff out of last season. Will sure I'm GonNa Guess that will? Myers will show up there and with a backwards at. My prediction for today, so we will have no chance to go ahead and ask her out on any hairstyles or anything else. He will be wearing a backwards hat and I will say a shirt with sleeves. I could see that. Yeah I. Don't know wheels big on the sleeveless shirt now unlike everybody else's appeared. Do you have questions ready for? We'll Myers. Might I want to you I know you hate when I do the you do this on the air because you'd think that somebody's GonNa Listen. Just take it and run with it right or re ask the question. Why don't you text it to me? Okay go ahead. Ask him how he is approaching the glove situation this season since he is notable for the fact that he doesn't swing with batting glove right I wonder if there's anything that might change in that regard purely out of safety now I. Don't want anything to go wrong here. I know we'll hasn't exactly been the will that. The padres thought they were getting well. This is the first year that that that twenty million was supposed to kick in. That's yeah, so on a pro rated basis will will be making a lot less I'm certainly not going to be the one to do the math certainly not real time. But I wonder if he's given any consideration whatsoever to changing his routine of batting gloves again I know this is an exciting stuff, and you guys can sit and talk about whatever you're talking about. I know that I don't always find that to be interesting. Whatever it is two guys talk about what's the question again? Batting gloves I. Mean we'll. because. retouching and I know they're different protocols for who doesn't doesn't touch a bat, and who doesn't touch certain things and I'd be lying if I said that I was following along, and I knew that all the rules I had them committed I don't. But I just I wonder if that subject has come up because he's very very notable for that that he doesn't like the batting glove now it's interesting because we know wills also Golfer and I know he wears a golf glove. I just wonder if something in that regard, we'll change. Anyhow it's not the most important thing, certainly, not gonNA, stop the presses two o'clock today. If you're, don't ask that question. About what I would ask if I were in that setting I think I would take that approach. Just like the other day I gave you a question for Fernando. Totti's junior and I don't know that the question I know that you were all that satisfied with the question and the answer, but yes anyway. But I think you do a great job. You don't need me telling you and you don't need anybody else telling you to ask so. Do you know what you're ready to to ask? Well, yes. It's about positions right? Not to tell you new manager. Is there any manager? Names Jay's tangle. That's right to teach you guys. How does J. Tumbler get by with Brazilian Jujitsu? Since we knew that that about Jay's Tingler in addition to managing many games on his mind, he also was a devotee of Brazilian Jujitsu as a matter of fact, we had a very good conversation. With Jay single during the winter meetings. And I was so interested in what he had to say about Brazilian Jujitsu started looking up places to go. Take Brazilian Jujitsu including place not too far from here less than a mile away and I said to myself you know I. Think I'm GonNa, look into that and they had a week free and I was ready to pull the trigger on it, and then not too far afterwards we started dealing with other stuff and I don't know what the status of Brazilian Jujitsu is I'm just guessing probably interrupted practices I'm guessing he probably has his own thing. Has Anybody asked Jason what he's doing now and the absence of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Perhaps you finds room to listen. If you would like me to Darren J singler has zoom at one o'clock. We just happened to have a guest there. I could I could tune in if you want me to and I could ask that question. So a lot of Jim Russell, This is Jim. Questions interesting because listen. We've all seen these press conferences, and honestly most of us can predict what the questions and answers are. Hey, how's it going? Who's really impressed you? Know again the originality isn't exactly where you would go to a press conference. If you were searching for originality, you wouldn't find it. There I've got it for today. No, sometimes with these kind of questions, though it's a big swing and a miss sometimes can fall flat right, but if you're willing to to explore especially if you ask the question and you're muted. I feel like I feel stupid. You can't ask the question again, yeah! Long as you don't ask, who is favorite, comedian is then we'll be good to go ripe. Tommy Fam- believe still in quarantine. We believe is still in quarantine and not yet with the club although. Yeah getting into the social media to adult. There are some of these image I. Don't know where they all came from whoever speaking of images and social media we gotta give a shout out today in our first segment of the program. To at t underscore seven one three P.. At underscore seven one three P. now. I don't know that this person wants his information out there for public consumption I don't know that person doesn't, but I didn't ask for permission and I know he doesn't have his full name there. His name is Parker. I'll leave it at that. Parker who must have been listening sometime over the last couple of days because he snapped just an epic couple of pictures from the park, the park of extra thirteen sixty padre insider and Union Tribune Padres beat reporter Kevin Spacey. In the park at the park sitting on the Grassy knoll binoculars at the ready both hands up there with his is wearing a checkered button down shirt, pair of blue slacks that appeared to be Lululemon, but I didn't confirm that, so I'm not sure that that's right. Maybe they were doctors that could be dockers thought they looked like Lulu. Lemons, but thinking that it's. Probably dockers he had some patterned. Socks appear to be sketchers on his feet, and we've got the shot that we were looking for so parker as I. Ju- earlier today. A thank you. We thank you for this picture. I will tell you that really haven't spent much time talking about anything else. Amongst the three of us from Jim more to me. We've spent a lot of time talking about these pictures that you took yesterday from the park at the park of an exiled member of the Media Kevin Spacey who was told that he could not watch interest quad games that he had to vacate out of the press box. Think, that was gonNA. Stop the ACE Ma'am. Techno. Eastman. Part of the park got himself would appear to be a bath mat. And sat on a bath mat with a pair of binoculars. How does a little note pad and sat and peered in as to what was happening on the field of PETCO Park was able to report for the Union Tribune what it was that he saw although he issued one of the great disclaimers, reminding everybody that he couldn't see half of the field, and he was using binoculars, and these are squad games, which aren't even as interesting Spring Training Games. I thought it was a very very good passive. Aggressive protest I. Think Kevin would deny that. This was a passive aggressive protests, but I know what I read into it, and that's what I read between the lines that Kevin was saying Oh. You'RE GONNA YOU'RE GONNA kick the media out right? You'RE NOT GONNA. Let us report on your product not GonNa. Let us do our jobs while you have this type of ballpark where I can go, sit right over there where I could live in one of these buildings and I could see right in as to what it is, you're going to do, so. He wouldn't come out. He was very kind yesterday on the loose cannons. He's been very kind on social media. Just making the most of it I'll really hard to me. I think this bittersweet I'm GonNa miss the Grassy Knoll. Come on! What happened is the king of passive, aggressive behavior, and that was some passive, aggressive protesting. That's what I believe. Kevin will say no, he'll join the show tomorrow, but I believe what I believe. You believe that I just said I. Don't believe any the words coming out of his mouth. How about that? That was passive aggressive. Type protesting for macy who. His column yesterday saying it's a tad bittersweet to learn that these. COM ON. This is the tenth bullet point of his ten bullet point story. It was a tad bittersweet to learn that these games will begin to be more easily viewed padres general manager Ha. prowler said earlier. Wednesday that interest squads will be open to the media beginning next week. Really it also appears that the Games will be streamed online as the teams marketing arm has been hopeful of and pressing for. Alas I will miss the Grassy knoll. More, sarcasm right. What else can it be here? Here's again. It's so passive aggressive. What Chefs Kiss Kevin I'm giving you credit. You'RE NOT GONNA. Take it I'm already telling the audience. You're going to deny this tomorrow, but I know what I know, and you know what I know and we're just GONNA. Leave it at that. Do you think that color has a framed picture of AC and Scanlan as well in his office saying? mission. Accomplished, look at them I got into the Needham either out there in the park at the park. This can't quit us. This is what I reduced the San Diego. Meteo tail. Meanwhile, the other reporters went home and cracked open cold. Bernie Wilson like seven beers in by the time Kevin, as he got the doctors up there to his eyeballs, but that's party Wilson. You know that's the way Bernie role so different strokes for different folks here, but back to the point we thank parker at t underscore seven when three P.. If you've missed it the money shot, we've all tweeted the picture. Now it's hilarious and that Bob Scanlan is in the background. In multiple positions by the way I mean there's one where Bob is just laying flat. He appears to have some sort of fruit as an apple. Is that plum? We're not quite sure. Maybe mid NAP could be mid NAP. He's got a snapple there, so you can tell he's in for. The long haul seems to have brought some sort of beach towel, so he's prepared. Prepared and then another picture emerged today from Parker at underscore seven one three P. in which both Kevin Spacey N. Bob Scanlan. Had the binoculars up to there is Kevin appears focused ace man right there on the field of play. Scan on that. Sure what's going on, I really don't I think he's looking for the the Savannah Sparrow as he's now part of the. Society here in San Diego and these guys are just doing some birdwatching. So. Again I know that the segment sounds absurd. I know. Some of you have said Hey, can we move on other stuff? That's important. Yes, it is absurd, so is the decision that these guys couldn't be allowed in there during an intra squad game, so you combat absurdity with absurdity. Do you think forced Aj prowler to go ahead and change his mind again. This is not on the media. Relations doubt this is the GM so great Russian yeah. Who who who got problems listen? You can't treat them like this. You can't do this to AC. These, we're seeing sad pictures. The radio station put a bounty on him. Do, this? My Gosh I don't know I don't know I don't know what the point. The pivot point was here I. don't but this was. This whole experience is been done and unnecessary on our behalf. There's no doubt about it. It's been a little passive aggressive I totally believe that as you said you don't believe anything that the guy is saying printing and would dumb and unnecessary other teams streaming. This stuff is something's being streamed right now in this day and age when you have social media and you could just stream it on instagram astros yeah. Anyhow, all's well that ends while I believe that that is the phrase like all things in life we move on. This was not the end of the world. This wasn't a big deal. Just was sort of silly, and we love reveling in the absurdity of situations like this nobody rebels in the absurdity of a situation quite like this show, I always will believe that nobody will will take it the way we take it and take it to those extremes, but thank you to Parker now. The real question is here amongst the show. What are we going to end Parker 'cause? Listen, it's been a while. It's been since March. We'll come up and it sounds like it's going to be at least until August. Look into something based on an internal email that I am at some liberty to discuss. It sounds like we're not going to be back at least until April inside of the IHEART. August excuse me it starts with an A. August starts. At least August if I read correctly here, and perhaps even a little bit longer depending on circumstances, so we've been seeing you guys again maybe. I don't think I think. Safe with your catered lunch all by yourself for a little bit longer got shrimp Jambalaya. Amazing Of course it was now so that's good. But it feels like things are happening. You know it does. I was just thinking about this before the start of the show today I, mean it does. It feels like things are happening and I know that this isn't normalcy. Well. We're getting closer to baseball. There's still a million question marks. I watch major league soccer. And maybe this is just my own perspective here. Because this morning I was on a call where Sandiego loyal and we were talking about some things with San. Diego loyal because we never really had a chance to make the announcement that we wanted to make before the pandemic and. We probably still need a little bit of time, but there was going to be. Part of programming that I was involved with, and I never really got a chance to to make that announcement because we were like. At the beginning of the pandemic. But they're getting set to play. They will play the opening match. The United Soccer Leagues returned to play now. We watched a little bit of Mos last night. I didn't watch it all. I watched some I watched some of the prematch. I don't know that you call it a ceremony. But some of the tribute, some of the return to play the players on the knees, the different teams that came out there as to fist and Gosh I didn't know that that was coming, but they were wearing different shirts with different messaging from black lives matter to antiracism lie I. Mean it just you know. I thought that there was some powerful scenes from it. The match itself whatever we know that when sports zoom is Mark Medina told us yesterday about the NBA. We're going to get some bad why we're just GONNA get bad play. It wasn't. This is not the the highest brand our level professional soccer that you could find in the world, and so I think it would be expected that every league SORTA struggled right out of the gates including major league soccer last night. I think US will struggle up coming this weekend, but it does. It just feels like there's a little bit more out there in the air as it relates to. What's happening in the sports universe just feels like we're getting. As opposed to a couple of months where it was just a simple shrug of the shoulders, and maybe who knows maybe it will maybe it, won't we? We don't know for sure that any of this stuff is actually going to happen. It can be completed, but we think it's going to start you. Mentioned MLS started the St loyal loyalty US cells to return, and then yesterday baseball is doing its thing and then yesterday last couple days and today we've seen footage of the different NBA teams arriving to Orlando preparing for their quarantine. Orlando Magic practice today, but we're seeing footage of NBA players arriving in Orlando in full gear, their masks on and pictures of food, so we feel like at the very least we think it's going to start. We know how effective it's going to be. Once it start, but you can. Tunnels you can see it, and maybe some of this is is just for me, because because I actually I've made mentioned to this. And we talked a little bit about this with Kevin Harlan who was just who is just tremendous for us last week and when I say that we in this industry live our lives based on a sports schedule I mean like literally. We live our lives based on a sort sports. Oh! I've had to cancel events I couldn't go to weddings I mean. My wedding was planned. Specifically based on the sports calendar which show I. Don't know that my wife truly understood until I said well look. The Astros are in the world series in the rockies. You know so anyway. And that that that's the way we love what you sign up for it I. Know for a lot of listeners out there, but like well. Our lives are around radio shows and I'm a season ticket holder. But at least for the most part you guys can bow out of some of that stuff. I've always said I would especially when we had an NFL team here, I Kim missed one of these games. I can miss a couple of baseball games. I can't miss these NFL Games. And I for the most part. Don't feel comfortable, missing and NFL. Sunday because there's so much to talk about on Monday right, so you know our lives really really do whether you're somebody. Who is this kind of business where you cover a little bit of everything or whether you're somebody WHO's working with the team and for me? It's been that way you and I had been like I've been in this business for. Seventeen seventeen years okay, and that's how long. Everything, that you do even my like when we try to plan that one family vacation and went to Hawaii the whole family in two, thousand and fourteen. It took me for ever to say okay. These are the dates like can go ahead and do it and I I did like during the week of the market has to be before training camp, and it can't be during before the trade deadline all this stuff, and so it was like in July like during the. All Star Week like everything that I've done is planned for for years for my life has been around on sports calendar, and again maybe again. This is my perspective, but you know I had to tell Leah today that you know this is what I have to do on Saturday. Because lawyers coming back, they're playing at one o'clock again and we've never really brought this up because we did sort of a soft launch for digital streaming show pre-game, impose a warden and myself and we didn't announce it. It, because we just wanted to make sure if there were any kinks, we wanted to work it out I. But that was our plan for entire season. Obviously season interrupted so now I'm back on schedule. My life is now back to being on a schedule. Where this Saturday. We will have streaming show, I, really starting at twelve thirty for a one PM kickoff, and then we will have streaming post game show as well and I'll share the details over the span of the afternoon and then. Then next week when they return home. That's going to be a different element. Because we not only will be doing the streaming show, but we will be doing the streaming show from on site. Oh, which is! To start at least a start, start USD. Next Sunday against Ellie Galaxy to this week in there on the road in Salt Lake City. Real monarchs, so we were. That was part of the plan all along that Jordan now we're. GonNa do pre and post half hour streaming show. And we just did it the first match and some tuned in in some sort of civil. What is this I? Don't understand what you do. That was the plan and now we're back on plans so now. It's like well. Hey, this Saturday guess what I got things to. Do you know for the first time in months? Because again some of the stuff you say well I'm going to watch him. Nobody hears relying on me to watch the Bundesliga or watch law Liga or watch the premier league. Right I maybe our podcast listeners, but for the purposes of the show, not so much. And most of you could say well. I'll take Aleve it. But, now we're back in action back based on a sports schedule. Knock on wood for some period of time starting this Saturday so. We're going to. We're going to be out there. At stone, brewing and Liberty Station with really which show is not a watch party type situation now they're open for business because they serve food and they have a massive outdoors. Massive. That place is so perfectly equipped. That's great. Yeah, so again I would invite you not on st loyals, behalf right, but for lunch, and we will be out there doing our very cool yet to be named or Unnamed pre-game show. Unnamed postgame. No for that Darren. It's only been five and a half years, but yes and we'll give you all the information if you WANNA. Tune in and want to watch it, but yeah, that's why I feel like. There's some normalcy here because I'm back. Oh, good schedule! Where I've say hey Saturday. Count me out whatever were thinking of doing between ten thirtyish and four o'clock. Housecleaning chores on duty I mean you're on pause? Maybe really that's why I started cleaning the counters. Sweep today see. Some of that today, some small little bit a little bit. A little bit better because you're going to press conferences again. Your life is being dictated by these all important zoom press conference. Again. People are watching. These people want it sure seriously I. Know I always joke about the stuff and people do understand the humor, but I people want it. I'm sure people were watching. The numbers, but I'm sure the people are watching this. People want someone. So you're getting you get a soccer bag. The podcast and the show, pre and post show I've got some press conferences whether the runs zoomed hit, perhaps will hit an actual intra squad game so a little bit of bounce for the Derek Fisher. And then then we have Jim. Who's going to be sitting there in his shorts? Doing nothing nineteen. Yeah. Twenty plus what Jim does. So we're all back we're getting back? He does he works on his jokes? I I think that Jim Shirtless in. Working on his joke delivery. That's what happens. Joke was driven shorts. Coming your way a little skill for what goodness takes skill. You're the man we got. You covered there. Buddy all right back after this. It's actually. Three three. Right Waiting for Richard, Burger to tell me what coming up a little later on the loose cannons, but we'll have to be in suspense here for a little while exit thirteen sixty and I heart radio want you to win a membership to Kenny the Jet Smith's virtual basketball camp the jet academy you could win a one week membership with access to virtual training sessions with NBA. NBA Players Plus An exclusive Zoom coaching session with Kenny Smith and special guests just download open our free iheart radio. APP LISTEN TO HIP hop workout radio for your chance to win was sent a picture via direct message by Jim Russell comes from twitter account. Courage Kuna Kandal I'm not sure how to say that exactly. All I can say wow. All I can say is how I really feel like we've done our best work of the pandemic, and it's all because of one of our listeners Parker. Who took a picture of scan? And Kevin AC. The artist's name I know. It's called a Sunday afternoon in the park or something like that. There's a very very famous painting. Which I actually saw with my own eyes last summer when I went to Chicago to see my cousin graduate from law school, we went to an art museum. He was dating an artist at the time, and she brought us in and we got to see this picture. This is the picture for those of you who've seen the movie Ferris Buehler's Day off which feels like it's on Marty's TV listings every other afternoon. Yes, the picture where they're cutting school. They go into the art museum same. Art Museum this pictures hanging in Chicago. If you go to the gift store there is. Is Like coasters the way you have decorated your home? come up with the beaches. My happy spot had to place Darren. Same thing then you can buy, you could by cutting boards with this image. You can buy posters. You can buy framed pictures. You can buy you name it. T shirts rolling pins. Somebody I don't know how the stuff is done I wish I was more tech savvy, but somebody has taken the images of Kevin Zimbabwe scanlon and embedded in this very very famous painting that you might remember if for no other reason than it was featured in Ferris Bueller. Really look for it to. You got to look for Mardi I. Think I'm not sure seen the mole, did we? Five minutes took Mardi five minutes. It became one of those those Those tricky I think for your eyes have to get out of. Where's Waldo Kinda? There's a wears ACN aware scanlon to it with the two of them so again. Parker I'm very very glad that you're getting all the POCO photo credits on this because you deserve it for taking these pictures yesterday, but Kevin is I. Don't WanNa Spoil where it is. Let's just let other people try to find it, and if you need a break in a departure from your day, please go find it. Somebody believe. His name is Sam took. Took Kevin and put them in that very famous picture of a bunch of fans up on the bluffs over by normal heights, looking in the QUALCOMM stadium I thought that was very funny. This is not going to go anywhere. And that's the best part about it is all summer long now watch. Somebody has an evaporating batting average. Here's Kevin Bob Scanlan looking for this player's bad. I just imagine that this is GonNa. Be with us. The SORTA is taking over twenty twenty over pot. This is going to be the same. The image of twenty twenty. This should be on next year's media guide. This should be if they make like a special I'm I'm sure the padres producing media, guides and spring training, but if they did like a pandemic version for the sixty game sprint, Darren this image that I think would would be suitable. Again that's call a Sunday afternoon in the park or something like that Sundays in the park or something along those lines, and you remember like the cameras kept zooming in in in Ferris, Buehler's Day off to the point where it sort of looked like a what's in the background or one of the Spanish soccer matches so however. I wish I was smart. Enough I wish I knew how to do that. I could probably teach myself in three minutes, but man that takes a some creativity so well done again now. We got a really really helped. Poke around here because this picture is just fantastic. Some had yesterday or the day before via the text line. Somebody had had sent in a question that I didn't take accusatory I. Didn't take it as accusatory. And maybe it's just because I like giving people the benefit of the doubt and I like to think that I advocate. For Communication and conversation, not just affirmation conflict in life, and I know on social media. Sometimes, it seems like it's one or the other. It's either. Hey, I'm going to gravitate towards conflict or I'm going to gravitate towards affirmation. Sometimes it's a little bit of both I struggle to find times where there's actual sincere conversation happening on twitter where you say well. Hey, let's discuss this and let's think about this. And can we talk about why I feel this way, and you can talk about why you feel that way and it just I've sort of given up. I. Don't really have a lot of hope that that's what that platform is there for any longer and I would. facebook into that. I. Don't know where we go for that I. Don't know where we go for actual conversation where you can say well. I don't understand what you're. Your point is and you say well I. Don't understand your point, you say well. Why don't we talk about it? But somebody the other day and I thought again. Sincere question was how come we're not seen anywhere near the level of vitriol and criticism towards to Sean Jackson s that we saw towards drew brees and I don't know that we gave a satisfactory answer on that now. Listen I think that there was one person who I've seen. WHO said it better than anybody? Did you see what Michael Wilbon? Said yesterday on pardon the interruption well. I can't say it any better than. Than this so I will let Michael Wilpon. Let you all here Michael Wilbon, and then we can have our own conversation afterwards. This comes from pardon. The interruption yesterday afternoon about about hold on about to Sean Jackson, but more so about Steven Jackson, who, if you would've told me a couple of days ago I I I didn't imagine that I would be different Jackson. Who would take the heat off of the other Jackson but now Stephen Jackson who's become made like. UNFAMILIAR WITH WHY WE'RE BRINGING HIM UP. I mean he became a powerful voice after the murder of George. Floyd they were, they were childhood friends. He was there in Minnesota if rallies when he became, he became an important voice nationally on sports, forms and CNN when it came to racial racial injustice for absolutely, and you know I don't get Sean Jackson I. Don't understand mindset under any circumstances where you go, you know that Hitler Guy. He might have had a point. I mean. What an just doesn't make any sense. And for whatever reason Stephen Jackson has just decided to defend him, and then didn't back away. SORTA doubled down on it Michael Wilbon yesterday I thought really really put it well specifically about Steven Jackson. Well, my thoughts are pretty simple about this frank. This is not tolerable and. I'm never if ever in favor of when somebody's on an active roster of suspension or fine firing them no ridicule public ridicule. You're going to undermine everything Stephen. Jackson said so eloquently on behalf. Try Black lives matter. He is no credibility now he's undermined his own previous good work with this garbage in garbage, and so I know Stephen Jackson I like him and if I was sitting with him, now have worked with them. I would say Stephen Stop Your Rock. You're not speaking any truth. You're going to have to become more familiar with the truth via history, and so let's read some Rita together. This is insane. You are ruining. I'm. Just ruining weeks of actually trying to appeal to people on one level, and then bringing your own bigotry and prejudice in at a time where no one can afford to see that no one can afford to have it to entertain it. Stop it and I don't know if he has people around him. Who will do that or not frank? And that was Michael Wilbon yesterday and again specific Stephen Jackson I can't say it any better than that I can't imagine i. don't think he's been employed by ESPN. I was disappointed that we didn't get a chance to chat with Stephen Jackson I on radio and Miami because I find him to be a really really interesting in a compelling figure. Somebody who's usually keeping. Keeping it real, but I just this is. He's lost everybody and I think we'll. Bond says it well. You are undermining everything that has been done here over the last couple of weeks, and I felt like that was part of why you didn't see and didn't hear the level of criticism aimed at the Sean Jackson, not that it's any better worse, less offensive. It's an opportunity to educate, but it did feel like so many people who were part of the movement part of a hoping and demanding change in this country felt like they were undermined in this would be distracting from whatever progress had been made, and I think. We'll really put that well. He's absolutely right. You cannot talk if you're Steven Jackson. You cannot possibly preach, and by the way correct and accurate message about black lives matter about racial injustice about the number of of murders of innocent of of. Of Black people who've been murdered and and their lives have not been accountable for you can't do that and then talk about hatred against towards Jewish people and hatred and anti-semitism and racial injustice and violence. It's one thing to go ahead and say it's one thing to have your head in San not have any idea why black players were kneeling okay for the national anthem wasn't against the flag. You understand what they're protesting. It's one thing to be ignorant about Adolf Hitler I. It's not even possible to be live right now and not know the eagles committed. It's not even possible to understand the hatred that he represented. That's what I don't get from Stephen. Jackson, or to Sean, Jackson it's it's insane at a time like this I'm willing to give some benefit of the doubt ignorance. And I am, too. Need to be educated, you need to be educated about certain things. You and I had a conversation about when it was that we had our first black teachers in our own lives, right? That was an important question and one that I spend a lot of time. Thinking about I can understand I can I can give you some benefit of the doubt when it comes to ignorance. Not Hitler. You're right. That's not understanding Jewish culture or Or the Jewish faith, not everybody grew up around Jewish people, frankly, and I think there's a lot of places in this country that didn't have the level of exposure that I have to your point. You're a thousand percent right? Even a fictionalized Adolf Hitler quote, which is exactly what it was, you gotTa. Know better than that and I. Don't know that I'm one who wants I didn't want drew. BREES suspended. Want drew brees sanctioned. Deal with the wrath of the people who are in this league, and I think that that's the probably aim for Sean. Jackson Jackson doing is so out there that will bond set is so spot on. is undermining undoing everything that he did? He did a lot of over the line. He did a lot of good. And it's frustrating. You could hear the frustration and we'll bonds voice, and everybody should be frustrated by that. Not just you'll have to be black in America to feel frustrated by what Stephen Jackson's doing, so I don't know where he goes from here on that, but man and I feel it. I heard it and I felt it was. Saying like Gosh. What are you doing? Stop it! Stop it! You cannot carry on like this. You are damaging all the progress that has been done, and he's a thousand percent spot on again. I reserve a little bit of room. For deshaun Jackson to learn from this, but the other guy I. Just don't get it. We'll take time out. We'll be back after this thirty. Three on the canons, the very latest out of college football, and the NBA plus Allen Sleep, whose Lakers talk will join US coming up at three thirty. We get going to three on extra thirteen, sixty and FM one regret. All right just learned. It will be Jim. Russell and John Shaffer loose cans today, starting at three PM, and since John Shaffer determine the talk. A little bit of College Football Jim. You should take very very close notes with what's happening. At the top of the Hour Ian fitzsimmons ESPN IS GONNA. Join US so we're GONNA. Talk a little bit about college football. You know that you can actually wager on which leagues which conferences are going to bow out I. Really Yeah, that's actually become something. You can wager on now again. Bats they're usually just sort of silly and for engagement and Athens's for I can't imagine anybody who's actually wagering on this by will there be an B. season? Yes, is even even odd, so you bet one hundred. You win one hundred Noah minus one forty. That's not. A those aren't steep odds, their minus one forty. Will any F. B. Game be canceled or postponed? Yes, minus eight hundred so one eight. Odd, so yes, what they're telling you is. The money indicates that Games will be canceled. Games will be postponed. I think that's pretty much a lock. I F. B., S. conference to postpone fall football. I'll just give give them to you in the order, although everybody here can guess the first conference or the favorite. To Postpone Fall Football, right, we can all guess which conference it will be of the five power five conferences. We can sort of guess which one is considered the favourite to cancel or postpone fall football correct. It's the PAC twelve. We also know which one is considered the longest shot of cancelling or postponing fall football. Don't we correct? It'll be the SEC. Yes, you are what your reputation sorta suggests. You are the PAC twelve while they don't care about football. Football, out there or you know those are a lot of university colleges were we might have a vaccine or cure. Come from a pack twelve school, but they suck at football, so whatever whereas the SEC doesn't care, and the is just does matter. They're just going to charge and move forward, and they're gonNA play, and if the entire world is burning around Bryant Denny Stadium then, so be it. They're still going to have some college football because SEC SEC. And you can't live without it down there because it really is become a sense of identity football in the south. There's great think pieces out there about why college football so important in the south, and some of it believe it or not as tied to the civil war, because this is what creates identity. And they are identified with having a passion and having an addiction to the sport. Unlike any place else now I think they're a great college football fans here in San Diego, and in the PAC twelve and some of the other conferences, but you know the sec especially, if you like tear down most of their monuments. Boy So there. You might have a little and you're going to. MESS WITH THEIR NASCAR. Who knows what to expect when it comes to their college football? But. Yes, you cannot wage. You're on this sort of stuff so he. Coming up after the top of the hour and we will talk to him. About where we're going from here and what we're sort of what we should expect because we saw the NFL I mean. NFL's got some protocols out there. NFL is telling you that we're going to be playing in front of fourteen thousand people and they're telling you that well. You can't swap jerseys at the end of these games and make sure after sixty minutes of tackling each other and special teams and colliding with. With one another for sixty minutes. You can't shake hands after the good luck NFL Felli. At least that's the one league that has a little bit of time to go ahead, and we're going to kinks, and as they observe, the other leagues would return the action, but yeah it just beginning all these all this chat we've had about baseball in College Danielle NFL is. GonNa have some pretty big hiccups ahead as well. That's all of us you. I do I mean they're going to have their equivalent of the line going down like we've had happened to us a half a dozen times, which has actually been really really good. If you think about it, I know it's not perfect by working at home for seventy four consecutive programs, and for sixteen straight weeks like. It's pretty good. This is our sixteen week anniversary I do believe today I believe we did the show for the first time sixteen. Thursdays Ago Days, it feels like yesterday. It's a Thursday July ninth. Mortgage very upset. They have pushed back. I'm good. Okay! Well you got to be there. We need content Neil. Tweeden? Adt Com professor seven to five Sunday afternoon on the island of Now I believe it's French. Would it be Legrand Hot Day Jat? I'm used to saying the J. and H. if I'm reading languages because of the Spanish influence here, Lebron Jot Day hot day. I don't know that's the name of the painting, so thank you very much to kneel. Art History is not my strong suit. I will tell you that I don't know what my strong suit is. I know it's not art history. Though so thank you very much, Neil. It's probably broadcasting a little bit of wine as secondary subject. Thank you for. That's the name of the painting. Sunday, afternoon on the island Legrand Hot Day Jot Day. What would you say J. Eighteen? French. I have no idea I'm so sorry. Jim didn't went to art school. I would say hot day. Yeah I wouldn't jotted that there'd be. laskey and Fitzsimmons next. Saturday seventy eight.

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New episodes release every other Thursday listen to Katie's grab on the iheartradio. APP Apple, podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. What is going on everybody John, little, cop three and out podcast. Back at it again recording this podcast, Monday afternoon almost dinnertime. and. You know there's really no way avoiding this. It won't be necessarily normal podcast. I can't just talk about football in about thirty minutes from now. The city in which I live in will be mandatory curfew. Because the looting has gone on. It happened last night. where I live, it's gone on just in the Greater Bay area in California for the last I think forty eight hours Saturday night, and then Sunday night and. Just. You know these were unprecedented times. This isn't necessarily with George Floyd situation which I'll get into in a second. The Corona. Pandemic is. Something! I I don't think any of us have ever experienced. We never been locked down for seventy plus days which I think was the number the middle of last week and it's a subject I've attempted to avoid in the sense of like giving my own thoughts on the the. Where the corona stands with myself because it changed on a daily basis like anyone have good days where it's like you know no big deal. We'll just do what we're told and other days like anyone when you're locked inside to get frustrated. And one thing was clear when George Floyd was. I think listen to everyone that I associate with or hopefully do I think would one hundred percent agree was? An innocent man was murdered. That had no business losing his life. And hopefully justice is served with the police officer is now in jail as well. The powder keg of just the racial undertone that's been really my entire life, and I'm thirty five years old. Anyone older listening. It's been like that in America since while before, I was born. Did the CORONA ASPECT OF IT? People locked in. There is a class warfare situation I know I can only speak for the state of California. Where I've spent the majority of my life. There isn't a middle class anymore. And the the the poverty levels are growing at historic rates in California, and the rich live in these areas and don't allow poor people in. It's really that simple. And there was just a bubbling in general. I wouldn't even say racial I would just say financial and economical in the state in which I live in. And the George floored situation which I don't see how as a human being, you could watch that in your heart, not hurt. And the situation that then followed, which was really powerful, turns out Steven Jackson, the former NBA player, really good friend of them. Peaceful protests or just protests and always understand people. Push back with protests I. don't tell like I. It's not my job or anyone's job. Tell someone how to feel or how to think and one thing as I've gotten older. I have attempted to do just like I. think anyone who tries to mature. Put yourself and other shoes. In someone else's other shoes to help you better understand that now. There are things that I will never be able to understand. That standing in the shoes. Of someone that's black right when I get pulled over I, am not worried about anything. Bad happened to me I've said this before I. said it on my podcast with Haberman. Today I've been pulled over before. Definitely in my twenties, bet aggressive with the police officer. It didn't cross my mind. That there was a situation that get could get out of control. I didn't even think that way. And that's an element that I I think all of us that are white. People can't relate to. I cannot relate though I completely understand it, and by this point in time with videos and everything we've seen over the last several decades, but definitely the last decade with camera phones. Everything we've seen you realize Jesus. It's a different world. And I I. Think we all understand the frustration and I'm not a politician. I have no clue I really for the most part despise politics, because as we see with everything from corona to now where we're at with the looting in everything, everything is so divisive. Where and this is I've really been thinking about this over the last forty eight hours. One of the last things in this country that. Kind of agrees with in agrees on now you might have. We might choose to root for different teams, but sports does bring us together. And because of the corona virus, and literally everything shut down in America in terms of the Games, and there are no games. Obviously, football would not be played, but only as would be going on. We would have media members going to practice interviewing these players. And Sports and definitely football, but I'd say. Sports in general is one of the greatest areas in this country where people from all. Poor. People, rich people middle class people. People of all ethnic backgrounds people from all over the place religious views everything under the sun in football locker room, especially now in the off season you got ninety guys in a football locker and I think we'd all agree you put ninety people together in any walk of life. They're all going to have different thoughts and views. Percentage of every of the ninety people. And we're not getting that and we are getting a lot of athletes that are tweeting and doing everything they possibly can, but because we don't have sports, there is a you feel it I. Missing Void Right now in this country, and I'm not saying that it would solve these problems and I'm not saying that corona hadn't existed everything we saw over the last forty eight hours would not have happened I. Think it's safe to say it. One hundred percent would've. Probably, everything would have been the exact same as of recording this now and I get uncomfortable sometimes, and I was like this during corona. And it's why I stayed away I. Sometimes and I, just for my job. Twitter is just it's distribution channel for me I spend time on it, because I tweet out links, I like to interact with people. It's something that kind of when I first got involved with the media. It was a great boom. I could just to people and as. I went to different shows, and it was incredible. and. It's clearly morphed. Up The last several years to be. Area just hatred and listen I. You know I I try to keep a positive mindset, and if you just. Corona was definitely like this. If you just spend all day on social media, which. I've never had more time on my hands the then during. You literally can't even go anywhere. It's easy to get angry. It's easy to get frustrated and it's easy to kind of get into a bad mindset now. There is no disputing that when you see what happened to George Floyd how you know if you have. Compassionate bone. In your body. How you're gonNA feel now. There is a level of and I've seen so many people tweet about this so many different athletes Carl banks, the former New York, giants linebacker who play Bell Jack for parcels next Lt. was just tweeting the one thing. The peaceful protesters there like to entities right now the people that want to peaceful protests for what is right, and then you have the smaller percentage of these looters which in my mind are criminals that don't care about George Floyd at all. And, because of the way, Videos explode in violence and destruction. They Garner way more. Views I mean that's what the what's what the television puts on. What goes viral on the Internet? And it just it's. A crazy place. I don't even know what else to say and I feel terrible and basically with Carl banks is this is how you get a race war. Because these people start being you know almost pigeonholed the looters and the criminals that they are part of the protests that are taking place, and in my opinion and again this is just my opinion. They are not. They have nothing to do with it. They're going to target to steal things. They don't care about George Floyd at all. Yet they take away from the message of everyone. That's you know Steven. Jackson was ahead of this last week. When it turns, it was tight George. Floyd went right to Minnesota and everyone all around the country. Who has been doing this for years every time these tragic incidents take place that stand up and try to draw a line in the sand for change, and then you get the crazies, and at least from my viewing, and I've had to turn off the TV just because as I. It's hard to watch some. Do take a hammer to a ninety year old ladies. Window and take out some business. There's not productive. It's really doing nothing just making the situation worse making place like the city I live and have to shutdown, because none of these businesses want to get lit on fire. What what are you lighting him on fire for not for George Floyd. and. I it's just. I don't necessarily have the answers. I've always try to treat everyone as well as possible. How the older I get I. Try to even be more cognizant of being just nicer to everybody. You know being more patient with people and I'm a sports guy. I got my. My career started in this business working at Fresno State a program that definitely was I mean a large majority of our team. We're just African Americans. They were coming from low income situations and coach Hill. Was and I've always thought this with football. In general, the coaches you're around, it never comes up. I've never heard. A racial statement shouldn't do this because this guy is this color or we shouldn't take this guy because of this. If, you can play your in great meritocracy, and the the NFL's definitely like that 'cause. There's way more money online. And coming to the media when I did you know seven eight years ago, it became a just in general it's. It's a big talking point and some people in the media use race as a huge part of their platform with a lot of their angles of what they talk about which sometimes are justified like right now and George Floyd and the situation in past incidence I, completely get it, and then there's consistently always interwoven wound draft stuff happens and and I scratch my head, having been on the other side in these draft rooms where I go i. don't see that in the lunchroom with all these players and go you know sometimes you look back. Some of the most compassionate people I was around just when you're lunchroom whether as A. A Fresno state or with the Philadelphia Eagles with the entire team, and this gets back to my original point about sports, not being around whether it's basketball whether it's baseball, definitely football, just the power and the platform every time quarterbacks talk every time guys like Richard Sherman talk every time. Guys like Wilson whoever it is in the league, the powerful they would be at practice right now, and they would be up on the podium and talking and together with their teammates, and we missed that right now and clearly if you look at the timelines, baseball basketball football, the as are off are just not coming back and it's just. I. Don't know what else to say. It's just. It's just a sad time in American history. I hope everyone can stay safe I hope everyone can treat people the right way and. I- faith. We always find a way to get through this, but get through this in a way, you know people feel justified that we make changes, and also you know we don't ruin innocent people's lives. You know and I mean when I when I see a video of George Floyd. Brother getting on a megaphone, saying what is everyone doing? My brother was a peaceful individual. You know just makes you scratch your head and it goes. Time in history in two thousand twenty. Where just there's so many messages from coming from so many places and. You just. You know you just. Get. Feel on easy just about the future and definitely the immediate future houses can end. There's not really a light at the end of the tunnel, even with corona. It's like. Are we just in the clear now over is? Still, that elephant room like what if it goes back in the fall? Tell. Ask this kid from CAL poly. I got no clue. To read the articles like you do I mean. Does anyone knows and then this situation is just. Powder keg feels a little out of control, because a small percentage of people get all the pub for the rioting and looting, when the large majority of people want to do the right thing and just want to have their message heard that were just. kind of on this slippery slope of madness, which hopefully we can come out of sooner than later. A career in application development at ddat means owning the opportunity to impact the preparation of our nation for the future. Doing DDAT for challenging work that advances your career apply now at GD dot com slash careers. DDAT is an equal opportunity employer disability veteran. Okay, let's stop. Let's dive into Meadville stories. What's to see if we can talk a little football? One story that broke earlier today was henry rugs. The raiders top pick in this draft from Alabama. There was kind of a vague tweet from the raiders actually Victoria for tweeted out a statement that. They were monitoring Ari the rumors of Henry Rugs being involved in an accident. The raiders are aware of the report regarding an off the field injury to rugs, respecting Henry's right to medical privacy. The team will not become any on the report. And rap sheet see if I can pull up the rap sheet tweet. Basically said he had some sort of Gash on his thought by. And I'm told he's okay. While he was apparently cut or received a puncture, the wound is not serious. During these corona times in these teams haven't been able to see their players. You know there's the month of. The Ot's OTA's and in the middle of June. really depending on the team. This might have been the week of OTA's. And then you usually kind of reconvene. It's the grip part of the NFL you get a summer break usually six or seven weeks. The irony is like they've been on break now. Really since the draft, not being able to do anything at least like scouts and GM's even coaches working a couple hours a week or I mean a couple of hours a day with their players. That's all they can do. Is You just of keep your fingers crossed. Nothing bad happens right. No one gets arrested. No one gets hurt working out. No one does anything so when I saw this headline, I said Oh my God because you just think. Did something serious happened? Well? If he just has puncture, wound and everything's GonNa, be okay, but as a raider. Fan. Now, this is different, but last week last year I'll never forget when they traded for Antonio Brown, and OTA started. The raiders would I wasn't allowed at practice, but I would see a band for those of you knew this podcast. They ban me long ago. Not Not a friend of the raiders management though I. Like Mike Mayock and don't know Gruden, but he entertains me. that. When okay started Antonio was there and it turns out. He was going through all the helmet issues, but he was dominating practice. He looked like you know if you go to Henry rugs or Josh Jacobs, or anyone that goes to Alabama just type in any Alabama player of the last like ten years, especially, an offensive skill guy, a running back or wide receiver type in their highschool highlights to YouTube. They look like. Like a video game compared to the other high school kids. That's what Antonio Brown look like against the raiders in practice. They couldn't touch him. I was like Oh my God. This guy is going to go much this year. And then he shows back up at training camp with the bad feet in an air balloon, and it was obviously a couple of weeks, Larry. He was cut, so that was a disaster. Now I'm not saying this by any means, but I. Just think if it makes the hair on the back of your next radio. Might not this again well? It feels for the time being that it's OK. George kittle in the forty. Niners are far far apart I've talked about this at. On the other podcast did some youtube videos on it. It's a complicated situation. Tight ends the most underpaid position in the league. Two good ones. They've never made big money. Amari Cooper got sixty million dollars guaranteed. The highest paid tight end in NFL history was twenty two million dollars guaranteed Dawson Hooper, so if you're George Kittle, you can't sign. You have nothing in common with Austin Huber. You are a better player than Amari Cooper, but the way football works. I think just the way business works. It's on cops and in in football. It's on your position cops, right? It's no different real estate. What's this square footage? Relative that House that sold for this well in football, not every house of the same because the D. line houses are a lot different than the tied in houses that are different than the safety houses in the tight houses are by far the cheapest houses on the street. And Kill is sweet house on a cheap street and he's ready to sell for a lot of money and I think it's just going to be a complicated situation, but the niners do not let sweet players walk, so I I don't think it's going to get to contentious and ugly, but it is a very very complicated negotiation. He's a star means he's the best player on the team. He's a star in the NFL like he's a poster boy of the NFL, he is probably one of the seven or eight star players non quarterbacks in the league. Poster Child of the League and personalities kind of. A weird ways like the NFL's version of the rock right now because so interesting. I'd just as a football fan, love watching them play. There's not much traction on the Chris Jones contract I read a headline I wondering. I don't know any I've never asked feature asking India about this. I wonder if I know enough about how this guy is in the locker room because he's a dominant player. When he's on the field in these right, he can take over the game and he did that in the Super Bowl. He took over down the stretch now. Is it a difficult contract negotiation? Does he want Aaron Donald Tight Money? Do they view him like an Aaron Donald Type Player? Unlike kittle where? I know for fact how the niners view them and they view them as store and kill is a star. I don't know if the chiefs like I. Think they understand how talented he is? They were there when they drafted him. But relative to how much he's worth I mean if deforest Buckner just got twenty one million dollars a year now. He didn't get that much guaranteed I think it was like fifty million dollars might have been a shade over fifty, but I would imagine Chris Jones wants seventy eighty million dollars guaranteed, and when you got the elephant in the room Patrick Mahomes. It's going to be a complicated situation. Also the elephant in the room of the chiefs, notoriously a little cheaper. And? Are they not to have fans in Arrowhead this year? Is that can have the revenue streams? Are they a little hesitant? If they're gonNA give Patrick mahomes historic money. Maybe it makes it a little more complicated again. No inside information. Magic Don- The pass rusher for the Baltimore Ravens signed his Franchise Tag. I been saying it for a while the Ravens team on papers excellent, and they should the Otas for them should actually probably be a benefit because teams in their division. In in the off season like when I was in Philly. And I'm sure coach read still does with the chiefs you do periods in the off season of just like. Let's run some Denver Bronco offense against our defense. Let's have some scout team run. Raiders offense I already events and vice versa, so you're just kind of wrapping it in your division because you play those teams twice well. If you're the BROWNS, you're the steelers and you are the Bengals Iowa. They matter. Not you start kind of you know locking in on how you're going to defend this offense. Will you don't have any of that? In the Ravens clearly know how to run this offense like the back of their hand. They got all their best players back including this guy. that. You know they're going to be really good in the regular season now I'm strictly judging them on the playoffs. Lamar's talked about it. It's why listen Lamar. I did not love him coming out so this over and over. He was domino last year. And I, I love his attitude, because unlike society that always wants to make excuses for things he doesn't you know. Shut up work harder. Nobody cares Carter that. He I think he even said this offseason like I'm i. need to play better in the playoffs. And if he they'll go as far as he'll take him, because if he's on plays like the regular season, they win the Super Bowl. If he plays, he's played in the last few playoff games they want, but their team on paper is is loaded. Jt Daniels, who was one of the big recruits in the country two years ago to went to USC started as a true freshman. I remember watching as a true freshman. I'm like I. Don't know if I see it. He was kind of robotic. I just I. Don't know I didn't see it well then the first game this year. was again. I think it was Fresno State I. Forget who their plant? He looked good he got. He looks a little more fluid. He looks a little more natural. And they shattered his leg. Then the guy that ended up replacing them look fantastic. And now he's transferring to Georgia. The college football and the transfer portal is really kind of like free agency right now. Now the difference is he's got to sit out a year. You know if you go to the transfer portal. Unless you're able to get some crazy waiver. You're not able to play, so he was not even eligible to play this year. But Georgia doesn't I mean if this guy can get back to what he looked like this for the first game of two thousand nineteen before he hurt his leg. Georgia might have their best quarterback I. Don't know who they're starting. quarterback is this year, but I mean Jake from. I'm not a big guy, but jt. Daniels is a more talented player than Jake frahm. And when you're highly. Big Time heralded recruit. When you go to the transfer portal, even if it didn't go as well, you're injured, you're going to have so many teams, not just quarterbacks linemen. It's receivers. These big boys are all going to be interested. Because he was just four or five star guy in every team in the country want or they're going to want you again to two years later. Even if you've been underachieved on tape, because these coaches believe they'll get the most out of you. And sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, but that's an interesting guy to fall. Was He goes to Georgia? Do your work clothes. 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See if we talked a little more football. Is. Way To get hold of me at Middlekauff, my instagram, DM's wide open. You can slide up in there and. And Yeah ask any question you want. What's up my ball? Brethren loved the show, and I've been listening since your first one, but you said Mahomes didn't actually have the top and best arm in the league. I said he didn't maybe throw the fastest. He might have the best overall arm. He makes it. Look so easy, but. Yeah also in the draft coverage. They had this thing when he was seventeen at a county. Fair I believe he had a radar on his pitch, and it was ninety seven miles an hour, and then in college through and ninety six. He throws absolute lasers, and that's a lot of tweets for guy talking about in practice being ready for. I was born raised still living Casey, but if you look into it, I think you'll find his thoroughbred and one of the best arms out there. I am not disputing. Mahomes has an elite arm. That is not my argument at all I'm just saying that if you put if we did the pitcher thing and I know a lot of people have dm about the pitcher now. I thought it was cool again. This is I am I. I don't have tangible information I've just. Been Watching, these guys throw footballs had a front row seat. You know now for over a decade in psyching gauge arm strength mahomes. Can throw it as far as anybody and I think when he steps into a ball can throw it equivalent on a baseball pitch like ninety six, ninety seven I would say Josh, Allen, and maybe even Wentz may hit like ninety nine now. I'm not saying those guys better. Mahomes Muhoza. Best quarterback in the League. H- you'd be the one guy I would take over every single player I. would imagine everyone listening probably agrees me unless you like Seattle Seahawk Fan. But I wouldn't say like just standing there I think throws it slightly harder again I'm nitpicking I was terrible at baseball I couldn't keep my front foot. I it never step forward. I always stepped away scared of the baseball I. Don't know it was just a bad instinct. I I was not any good at. That pitcher to throw. But. I've been told met some baseball players over my day just when I worked in radio used to be able to have a lot of access to the as and the giants, those interviewed a bunch of them on television or I mean on radio we had our guests were players on the team and they all tell you that and I'm sure some you guys listening played college baseball the it's really hard to tell the difference between ninety seven, ninety nine. It's basically just fast af it's hall ass now there's a big difference. We Ninety seven and ninety two, but I think once you get like ninety eight, ninety nine like heat waves coming where I live. Now? I was talking to a lot of people this weekend. I don't know if there's that big a difference between like one or two and one ten I'll tell you what one or two is hottest. Hell I'll tell you. What one hundred ten is hot as hell, a little hotter than one or two. Anything over one hundred. You know on the West Coast where it's dry. Heat is really really hot now. There's a big difference between eighty eight and one hundred, but I don't know if there's that big a difference between three and one eight just like I. Don't know if there's that big a difference between mahomes and Josh, Allen. SAN and they're throwing football. I would just give the slight edge. To Josh Allen. Love the pilots in every episode appreciate if you had the power to pick any player in the league in void their contract, so they could hit the open market. Who would it be and why? I, personally cowboys fan, but I'd love to have it be Stafford. Set Him free from that dumpster fire. That isn't lines. That's I didn't quite see where you're going there. I don't hate that one at all. If I can retroactively go back I would go. Matt Stafford like four or five years ago when he was I think when he was drafted, it was like twenty twenty one years old. He's been a league now. We drafted Oh eight. Twelve years. He's probably thirty to thirty three years old if you got him. You know at twenty six twenty seven because I. Think sometimes when you hit his age now you developed some bad habits now. He's still highly skilled. And I'm still a big believer in Matt. Stafford hear sirens in the background. It's never great thing at. Six o'clock and. Got This is weird times, but yeah I. I would say Matt Stafford like five or six go if I had to go right now. It is have to pick. I would say like Chandler Jones. I think the cardinals are not going to be very good. Their defense is atrocious. If you put Chandler Jones team that was like on the Seattle seahawks. Wore on the New England patriots I know he was on the new agers, but like the version of him now. The Pittsburgh steelers the Green Bay packers a team that was competing. Go the playoffs. Playing, on national television, a lot I think we talk about him like Khalil Mack because his watching a lot of NFC west Taylor. Jones is easily one of the best players in the league, but when you play for the cardinals, and your team's been really crappy last handful years, no one's really paying attention beside like die hard nfl nuts to defense pass rushers because they're not in the fantasy mix right. You're not drafting a defensive end in fantasy. You draft defenses. You're never drafting the cardinals defense. So I think he'd be a guy for sure. Huge Fan in the pod just wanted to know how you feel about the NFL going to two preseason games in adding the seventeenth game in the extra playoff team. If that would work better than what we have now also. What do you think of the Carolina? Panthers in the team? Thanks keep it up well. Matt rules clearly a really impressive guy. I. Don't think the roster is very good. They do have some offensive weapons. Christian McCaffrey A. we'll see other kids name more DJ more. He could fly. Obviously, the scientist bridgewater it might actually be. They signed Robbie Anderson from from the jets who played for rule at Temple. Who can really run? They got some elite speed is they're going to be good enough Keith. He's gone. You, know obviously. Thomas Davis Long Gone you take. No I think they could be one of the worst teams in the league, but if you believe in Matt Rule Big Picture. Kind of churn the roster. Get his guys in there. They could be good in a couple of years specially Tampa. Bay's all in right now. The saints are kind of all in right now. Maybe in a couple of years as those rosters turn over, you can take advantage. I would say the preseason games. I don't think it's locked it. We're GONNA play three or four preseason games. This year wouldn't shock me if we just ended up playing two preseason games. I'm not opposed to preseason games. If I was going to do the two preseason games, I would make it mandatory that you do a joint practice. And, maybe you can't make it, but if I was a I would, just I would be pushing for two preseason games, and I would do a joint practice because every good coach I know does join practice. You WanNa, do joint practice. It's just a great way. To hone your team against another team, get live reps, and really it's a more teachable moment i. think sometimes the preseason Games. where? I just think coaches now in GM's, and in fairness, the money so big. It's not worth risking guys I just. It's risky enough in a regular season game to lose a starter I I can't afford to lose a starter to a broken leg to a torn Achilles to a Tornado L. to a torn shoulder. In a game in August I, I, I can't do it in as we've seen the last several years. Less and less teams, or even putting their players out there, so the Games are just kind of a joke. Big Fan of yours, and was wondering if you could check out my NBA blog, they started a couple years ago. Got To post up right now. Love to hear thoughts. Check it out. After this podcast. Actually eat dinner I. Keep logging away. When people anyone asked me ham starting to podcast starting a blog, just do it you start it. Push it out as much as possible on social media, and just you live, and you learn you know. The NFC. Division the NFL, many people think the packers are pretenders. The Vikings are young and talented, but I have a lot to prove agree. They lost eggs. They lost up. Everson griffen cousins just kind of a guy. They lost their offense coordinator. The lions are talented, but appear handicapped by the coach agreed. The bears are a wildcard of Nick foles catches fire under center ranked division. One through four while you think will happen to see. What put the Lions at four? Then I think the next three teams can win. The bears went eight and eight last year with Mr Bisky playing atrocious football. The packers went thirteen and three last year in pulled his games out of their ass. The Vikings were just really solid, but vividly remember too big games against the packers and against Seattle. Kirk crumbled, and they become very run heavy, and when he has to make place especially outside the offense, he can't now. Their defense isn't gonNA. Be as good this year. Their pass rush isn't going to be as good this year they drafted a corner early, but they cut Xavier. WHO's bad last year. They have some unknowns on defense where they've kind of. You know the Vikings have been one of the more consistent teams in the league last five years. Well now you get rid of digs who? got like one hundred sixty five balls the last two years fifteen touchdowns. That's a big loss. They're expecting few. Tell me just Jefferson's competing to be the rookie of the year. Then I go. The Vikings offense, probably dynamic Jefferson feeling cooks. Dalvin Cook not cooks, but what if I tell you what Judge Jefferson? Is kind of like treadwell couple years ago doesn't work out. Then all of a sudden you go well. Feelings been banged up. What if their offense comes back to earth and their defenses good? Maybe they go eight eight. The packers as long as they got rodgers, I would say there's still the team to beat. I'd put them at one. I would probably again you call me biased? I think nick foles much better player, the Mitch Trubisky and I'm not even the biggest. Nick foles guy. That defense is so good. They have so much kind of cohesion with the roster. Probably be a coin flip between them and the bears I'd go packers. United go packers one I'd go bears to a vikings to be and listen if you're a vikings fan, you go. How are you putting the Vikings above the bears? There's a lot of turnover. That's a lot of coaching turnover, the offense coordinator, who was really good last year. You, have you lose digs? You trade them away and you're going to be depending on two rookies now the corner and the wide receiver. You lost your one of the best pass rushers. You'll have your franchise the last twenty years. Just, Just a lot ass in the lion's of stink. Again men Guy I'm not not hiding from that fact, but if you could convince me and I'm with any of the three teams wins the NFC north. If falls is good. The bears are going to be good. For Excuse me, it falls is solid. The bears are going to be good. If the packers offense sputters again like maybe they struggled. Get nine ten wins instead of thirteen. Their office was just not good last year. Though, we're apart these days sharing more so at Geico, we'd like to say thanks. Thanks for sharing your savage dance moves. Thanks for sharing your diy. Haircut fails. Thanks for sharing your inner lip sync star. Now it's our turn to share with the GEIKO. Give back fifteen percent credit on car and motorcycle policies for current and new customers, because we're committed for the long haul, the fifteen percent credit last year, full policy term visit GEICO DOT com slash. Give back for more INFO eligibility. Question for the pot. Why do people constantly claim the NFC conference than has been the AFC, which consistently dominated in the Super Bowl for the past ten years. I understand a good portion of those winds brady, but the fact of the matter is the NFC as forceable since two thousand ten, the AFC a six again. Brady is three of them. Doesn't that quite literally? Make them the better conference at the end of the day. All that matters. The Big Game in the AFC has one sixty percent of the game in the NFC. I think when I say the AFC is not as good as the NFC. I'm not the chiefs for the best team in the League, and they beat what was clearly best team in the league in the Niners, they beat the saints that run through the NFC chiefs beat them. and. The chiefs will be a heavy favourite again. This year and the Ravens are really really good. But when you look at the depth of the conference I, just don't see it as the same as the depth of the NFC the niners, Seattle the saints now with Tom Brady with the the bucks. The Eagles if not everyone gets injured. The cowboys roster like we just talked about the packers bears. Vikings are all really solid. When you look at the AFC I go well, I got the chiefs in the AFC west is the second best team in the AFC. West drew lock in the broncos. Justin Herbert and the chargers. The AFC South I watch rivers. Last year. He looked terrible. Now I like Ballard like frank, but what would have rivers not good. The Titans got really hot and I like variable and they should be solid. The Texans like I'm not counting on them to do anything in the playoffs. Roethlisberger's like forty years old. He got hurt last year. You missed the entire season. The browns. Though the browns. I like the bills, but I mean th. They blew a nineteen point, lead or seventeen when he was scoring the game against Texans. You know the Patriots could come back to Earth. The dolphins is not going to be that good neither the jets. We right like winning, the superbowl matters win the Super Bowl, one hundred percent matters and the chiefs in the Patriots. The top teams in the AFC are excellent are elite. The Patriots are one of the greatest dynasties ever. The rest of the conference though just hasn't been to me as competitive as the NFC. Change, maybe I'm wrong. I was wondering. What do you think of Johnson? I think that he could have a breakout season this year. Thanks. I would agree I didn't know that much about him. Was He from Tulane? Third Round pick from the steelers, and then you just watch them a couple games last year. Plan with just scrub quarterbacks can fly. And if ju who is kind of feels like he's in weird standing right now against. In the Pittsburgh steeler organization if he can kind of get the train back on the tracks. Maybe that offense is really explosive with him Juju yet eric. Ibrox on, you still got Vance. James Connor if Roz Burger has one last hurrah on them. But I I like elite speed guys. They can make things happen with the ball in their hands, and he is one of those guys, and if you just condom on the right game last year again, not all his fault plan with scrubs. You're just like cheese, Louise. This guy can fly. He had fifty nine catches last year and five touchdowns. He's my I. Definitely like us I appreciate everyone listening. Keep this one a little shorter today. Just just weird time. Stay safe out there. Attempt to stay positive. and. Talk to you a little later this week. 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Hour 2: America Under Protest II

First Take

41:01 min | 5 months ago

Hour 2: America Under Protest II

"We're back with a special edition of I take America under protest. One of the most well known activists in this country is Kareem abdul-jabbar. He had an impactful comments in the wake of George Floyd's death a week ago. This is from the L. A. Times. He says yes. Protests often or used as an excuse for some to take advantage just as when fans celebrating. Celebrating a hometown sports teams championship burned cars industry storefronts I. DON'T WANNA see stores, looted, or even buildings burn African Americans have been living in a burning building for many years choking on the smoke as the flames burned closer and closer racism in America is like dust in the air. It seems invisible even if you're choking on it until you let the sun in. Doing now is award winning author and Radio Show host Dr. Michael, Eric Dyson he is the author of tears. We cannot stop which addresses the plague of police brutality against black Americans I want WanNa start here. Dr Dyson. Give you the floor. What is your reaction to the latest events in our country? Well. First of all for having me on one of my favorite shows on television. You know we are living in devastating circumstances. There's no question that we say time and again after an incident like this occurs that we are now having revealed to us the underlying conditions, the pre existing conditions of racial bigotry of prejudice of hate. Of the way, in which black people are humanized the refusal to recognize our humanity, much less our social equality, when you look at what happens on a daily basis, and you can take a kind of if you will extract of living tissue a biopsy. Of the last couple of weeks we see the situation in central park where white woman threatens to call the police on a black man weaponising the various threat of the police against black men, acknowledging that that is a problem. We see I'm arbitrary in. Asia? Who is jogging down the street and down like an animal, and then we see George Floyd in Minnesota. Laying prostate on the ground, tend beneath the knee of a police officer. A law enforcement official was sworn. An oath to protect and serve US and yet Mr Floyd begging for help for relief, asking calling upon his mother sacred in black communities. Knowing that he's dying, his mother's already an ancestor and he showed soon joined her. This is the explicit articulation of such fundamental disrespect for the life of black people, and so what we see now spilling over into society with. Rebellions and uprisings and looting. That pales in comparison as Mr Jabaar has said to the viciousness that black people subject to daily, and when you think on top of that. About you know white brothers and sisters loot as well not simply in the streets, but black people face looting in corporate America. Black people face looting in offices. What Roger Wilkins called quiet riot's and so the disavowal of black humanity. The disrespect that we continually confront is something that has to be confronted. Is there something different about George Floyd that now in Germany and in London, people are identifying perhaps so, but until we confront this as a fundamental issue of American democracy, we shall not solve this problem in a way that will prevent what is going on now from going on again. Back, the dyson my brother always appreciate you. You know that happy to have you on the show. Let's let's say point right in terms of confronting in terms of confronting the issue, you know what I always say. When you and I talk, if black folks I if if white folks catch a cold, black folks, catch pneumonia and other word, right? It's always worse. Than it is for them, although we're seeing riots, take place, and it's not just confined to the Black Community Riding Oh community now we see black and white protesters, black and white rioters. There is a difference between protesters and rioters, but we see both ethnic groups involved in both categories. Thinking about what I just said. In terms of how much worse it is for black people than it is for white people in light of the things that are transpiring. How do you see all of this panning out for black folks if these riots continue in your estimation? Well, I absolutely right. Your analysis, as always is a cute and incisive and accurate I think the larger problem however is what will happen if we don't listen to the people who have been disadvantaged and who have been hurt and pain now we know that what we see in the St Martin Luther King Junior said a riot is the language of the unheard. It is the voice of the unheard, so the bigger issue here is what do we do so this won't happen again. And you know as well as I know which is why black people are out in. In the streets, if they spot some of their white brothers and sisters who want to be their allies from engaging in unlawful behavior of the reason, they're trying to stop them is that they know that white privilege will even cut through to who gets arrested, and WHO's not who will be demonized, stigmatized and bear the burden of that Tabu, and who won't so even white privilege at the level of distinguishing a white woman walking through a store, taking things is seen as an employee WHO's out of work and black people are seen as learners, so we know the very definite. level of WHO's a looter, and who's a writer and who's rebellion who's engaging in social rebellion is racially driven. However, the deeper question here is this. That we can't keep having this occur. Where on the every day when black people speaking softly when black people are speaking intelligently when black people are speaking vociferously against these issues. They're not her. The tragedy is my brother Stephen they often. Don't hear US until the negativity comes out here. Here's the false dichotomy. Well, this is a distraction. We can't hear your claws claims. If you rioting no, you refuse to listen to us before the rioting before the rebellion before the city's burned before the self destruction before the destruction of certain areas. Areas and properties of America the destruction of our souls bodies. We don't own anything in those communities to begin with hardly, and we don't. Even it seems own our own bodies. If we can't take to say to a policeman stop, I am not able to breathe. Please let me go. We have no ownership that is worth defending so at that level I think that the bigger question is what will America do to make certain that these streets don't burn and that the utter chaos that we are subject to now will be prohibited. Prevented in the future. Glad you're with us. On this special edition of I take during these times of protest and unrest, Sally Jenkins of the Washington Post had a column recently about calling Kabir Knicks fight against injustice writing in part to needs one protesting in the grass, one pressing on the back of a man's neck. Choose, you have to choose which knee you will defend. NFL owners chose. Chose the knee on the neck they did. They may rationalize it as controversy, avoidance or respect for the flag or audience, modification or economic strategy or Business Exigency, but when they collectively ostracized Colin Kaepernick for his protests against police brutality on unarmed black citizens, they to wrong knee. They chose the knee on the neck. The knee that pressures Stephens gags chokes and silences. Those words from Sally Jenkins Award Winning author and Dr. Michael Eric Dyson excuse me. They're still with us Max I want to open this to you because you didn't get to participate in the last segment, what would you like to ask Dr Dyson? Professor Great to have you on the show especially on a day like this first of all Spin on the brain a lot because like Mohammed Ali what started out as kind of the leading voice in the or symbol in the counter, cultural movement was the mainstream wasn't on board at the time, right what he was standing up for wasn't as popular with the mainstream would become because of obvious subsequent events and Ali's case, the tide turned against Vietnam War. War In this case. George Floyd's death, which has sparked. Major Outrage Kapernick spin on the brain because this country's reaction to a peaceful. In fact when he was told he was being disrespectful, he said okay. What's better? He took a knee to show respect and deference away, but. Still there was a major problem and then I see a two things that strike me as quite curious, given these, or at least interesting given these times one in Minneapolis Alley Val. She of MSNBC said that. State. Police supported by National Guard. Rubber bullets. into an entirely peaceful rally including it him even when? The police. Delicacies! Kelly here, he's back. Go ahead, man! He's back. In incense in Cincinnati Sheriff deputies raised the blue. Lives matter flag instead of the American flag in front of the Justice Center in Hamilton County in spite of what's happening or maybe because of what's happening in the street. What do you think explains this kind of point of view from law enforcement in Bolton's them to take these illegal measures? It seems to me particularly in the face of this social upheaval. Yeah, it's a great point There is a kind of bipolar. Juxtaposition, if you will not opposition, but juxtaposition between on the one hand what we see going on in these streets today in terms of protests, and the way in which the reinforcement of structural inequality structural racism in American Society, the Police Department and law enforcement more broadly. Has Been Part and parcel woven warp of a culture that has been intolerant of difference. Why is it that the police chief in Minneapolis acted the way he did because he filed a suit some years ago. Claiming that the local police department was engaging in racist behavior. He then led. It led him to that. Is that sensitivity to firing these police as soon as they murdered? Mr Flowing and also to insist that they be held accountable. We need more police departments like that where we don't reinforce a deeply entrenched ratio, animus and bias against African American people and the Anti blackness woven into the very fabric of the culture, hoisting a flag. Of Blue all lives matter, or in this case, blue lives, matter is akin to symbolically rearing the confederate flag against the larger nation in deference to one's own sectional loyalties, so I think the convergence of votes that confederacy and cops at that level knowing that white supremacists have penetrated to a deep degree law enforcement in America suggests to us that the problem can't be the law and the rest of us. WHO's going to protect service as K.? R. S. One set from the cops themselves and this is why we need. This is why we need community policing. This is why we need. Police live in the communities that they are policing so that they will see. That's my aunt, my uncle that somebody I know that's my homeboy which Katrin an Anorak. Absolutely, no question where it's hard to argue with you or Miss Jenkins this morning. There's no question that when terms of as Miss. Jenkins said choosing a knee. We have to talk about the knee Colin Kaepernick. Did Place on that Gridiron to suggest that there was a problem in even if one disagree about method and manner, the ultimate message is real. It's powerful. It's poignant is compelling, and we've got to grapple with it somehow. Well Dr Dyson I certainly can't argue with a couple of points Max made, but that's for me and Max to deal with on another day which we will make no mistake about it. We got a law week ahead of us. As it pertains to Colin Kaepernick the only thing that I will say this I totally agree with Sally Jenkins the only thing that I would add as I really wish. A distinction was made between the NFL owners and the NFL. The NFL led by Roger Goodell with an executive. Vp who was a black man in Troy Vincent. WHO does a lot progressively the things that they have tried to work that they have put in shows that the intent is distinguishable different from what you get from a multitude of NFL owners, and I think we always in fairness to the NFL to make sure we like that, but stand with your. Your point Dr Dyson I would like to ask you moving forward. You talk about community involvement. What did you think of the idea of having some kind of and I? Use this word I understand the topic that we're living in into word, but an overseer in terms of a national police commission. I don't know how plausible that is, but in light of the fact that we have one presidential. Presidential candidate that his is from Asli. No for his position during the crime bill in nineteen ninety-three when he was pushing for that, and he call folks predators on the streets to a president and the office that just brought up dogs as in vicious dogs waiting for the protest I. think that when we look at things from a federal perspective. There's a lot of reticence. There's a lot of hesitancy. Hesitancy when it comes to things that need to be addressed at the federal level, so I'm asking you. Is this something some kind of remedy involving a police commissioner or somebody or board over everything before it can get to the attorney general where the police behavior Tim be dealt with before even arrest made somebody to monitor what the police are doing. What do you think about all of that? That's very powerful compelling, and let me say first of all. Mr Vincent and Malcolm Jenkins so you saw. There are one football player. One of the have done extraordinary work in trying to address many of these issues, so there's no question about that and I think that the section you make. There is more than technical that the way in which a bunch of billionaire white guys whose own ethos is antithetical to the encouragement of difference and those like Mr Vincent a black man to play the game himself and Malcolm Jenkins. WHO's on that? Gridiron is well talking explicitly and openly about racial inequality. Yes, there's no question when it comes to a policeman of the police of police czar. Steven eight when we talk about. Somebody who could talk about? How this is going because we that the under the Obama Administration Ag Eric holder one of the great. attorneys-general, we've ever had a had covenants with police. Departments examined them routinely. Look at what happened in Ferguson talking about what the corrupt culture of policing was day or or join with. Organization like Noble. National Organization of blacks and law enforcement headed right now by. Chief CJ Davis from the Durham Police Department tremendously brilliant Black Woman Who and those release people who are black by large understand ratio animus. They are victims of it themselves. They have been victimized by white supremacy within their own ranks and are deeply profoundly sensitive to this. So yes, we need police. Policing of the police. We need a police czar. We need to the ability to leverage penalty, fine and sanction against police departments that refuse to be trained, not like in Minnesota where they overrode chief did by saying we have warrior light stances, and we will pay the fifty five thousand dollars in warrior training. This is what ends up happening. It converges release, logic, legal logic, and the logic of white supremacy to really squelched the brethren from black people, and to have the greatest endemic besides nineteen that we've had. Laura I just want to say this to end this segment. I listen I don't believe that the police officers need training because of training with an issue. You'd be doing it to white people you know what to do. You just don't care when it comes to black people in a lot of instances that we're talking about so if if it's not being done the white folks clearly not training, clearly, you have the training necessary. You just don't choose to exercise it in some situations indiscriminately against black men period. It's your home. Speaking and I need you to do me a couple of favors. I could get that blueberry that rolled under the fridge last week. It's throwing my functions. Way Off SPEC anything. Bundle your home and car insurance with GEICO. It's easy, and we could save money. Lastly, I know you're thinking of painting the nursery back to off white, but I'm actually feeling. This baby blue didn't think it was my color, but I m pulling it off Geico for bundling made easy. 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NBA Player Steven Jackson. It's been a week since the death of George Floyd and continuing we see unrest, we see protests around this country. Welcome you back to a special edition of I. Take those words in reaction to the death of Floyd, the reaction to the death of MoD rb. Brianna Taylor so many more welcome in now is Mike will for his thoughts here and I'm just GonNa. Open up the floor for you will tell us what you're thinking and reaction to everything going on right now. Well I guess, my emotions run the gamut like most people's from depressed to anger. And a lot of anger. Just just watching the pieces on television, it was a piece of CNN yesterday that very. Appropriately chronicled. Just sort of not all the cases, but the more celebrated ones Trayvon Martin Michael Brown. Eric Garner Lukewarm McDonald Tamir rice well, just got Freddie Gray you just go on and on and on and on and that's when you realize the accumulation of this. Is just overwhelming, I know in my household, you know. One of the discussions was why now what happened in Minneapolis? The sort of pushed the next the reaction to this point. Why didn't it happen sooner? Why do we have to get this deep into it? This many deaths, tragic deaths and I don't know that there's an answer I guess this is the tipping point. What happened in Minneapolis and people perhaps didn't have as much to be distracted by in terms of television is social media and they locked onto this. Because we've heard I can't breathe before you know this is not new sadly. But for whatever reason this use the word sparked. A level of interest and passion and depression and anger that resonates with with a nation and It's so. Awful that we had to get to this point, but now we are here and now what? Michael you? WanNa get take this a little bit personal you. Are In my view have always been very representative of the best of sort of midwestern American values. You're always. Helpful and and I remember when I was in DC doing around the horn. You're a mentor and you showed me around. The Wizards and introduced me. People everyone in the business if they hear Michael Wilpon. They know he's a really nice and helpful guy. We both have children who are preteen entering the teen years my eldest and and I just I. When it's. It's worrisome enough at your kids out into the world and I'm speaking just as a white man. Let your kids out into the world, and you hope nothing bad comes to them. You know you can't be there with them protecting them all the time, but you hope that they're going to be okay. Because the world can be dangerous place I'm wondering about your thoughts Nice. Michael Wilbon who goes out of his way to help everyone with the sterling reputation, public figure who has those same kind of worries I'm sure that I have about my children, and then some I'm wondering about your and then some. Well. Max growing up in the Midwest. Still didn't shield me from anything, and it may sort of. Color of veneer, but underneath when when I said anger I wasn't exaggerating. I certainly have been stopped. Driving while black is probably eighty to ninety percent of us of a certain age have been, and it didn't even happen in the mid west, happening in in greater Washington DC, two out of the three times is happened, but to your question sort of our children. What do we tell them? I've got a twelve year old son. Is You know I've got a nineteen year? Old Nephew Guts on? He's with us now. He and his mom and Dad. My brother and his wife are with us here in Arizona and I. Yesterday had to sort of restrain myself from sort of forcing them to sit down and watch this while still delivering some sort of lecture that I hope would be internalized. And what do you tell the twelve year old and I said son. You've got to pay more attention to this. You'RE GONNA want to drive my car in four years when you're sixteen. How you going to comport yourself? What are you going to do knowing Max? The answer is it may not matter a damn how he comports himself. He may do everything by the book, and his and mother and others tell them to do, and he could still wind up on the wrong end of a knee or a gun. Now think of liquidity McDonald Being Shot Fifteen or sixteen times being a native Chicagoan so when I have these conversations with my son and my nephew I wonder what's. Was Thinking, my nephew's already of driving age. This is a lecture that my brother and I have delivered to him and we're going to have to stay on them Tony Kornheiser and I had this discussion? I said to Tony who has a son I've known since he was born Michael, said Tony. Have you ever had to have this discussion with your son? The answer was no. And these now are just Max. We should be so far beyond this in twenty twenty would. This sounds like something? My parents when my father was growing up in rural Georgia and fled literally fled a town rural Georgia to stay away from the possibility, the possibility of a noose. My parents fled the south, hated the south one, no part of it because they grew up in the worst than Jim Crow South. Prost depression south, and so these are stories I would expect to hear from my father. Who would have been ninety four years old if he was living and we're talking about this in two thousand and twenty, it's just it's unthinkable. Noah's interested in always love having want them the show and I just On National Television I. I'm sure I'm speaking for for my buddies. Jay Don Days David Aldridge's of the world Marc Spears Plethora of African Americans in this business. We, we love this man they might. Will we revere him and more importantly than that the what does the one negative in a fun kind of way to my brother Tony Tony? Kornheiser who we all love as well is dead. You look at PTI and makes people forget. At times of the popularity institution. The PTI has become part of the interruption makes you sometimes gloss over at the exceptional resume spanning three decades that Mike will bond did as a columnist. For The Washington Post under the great. George Solomon as the sports editor and I know that would make you laugh Mike, but here's the deal. Watching you Friday. On Television, Speak About Jim Crow laws speak about how you shiver when you hear a police siren in the vicinity. Being grown man. In your fifties accomplishing what you have accomplished being well known as you are. To be in these times where literally as frightened as people said they were back in the sixties. Did you. Do you see this as a situation? That's helpless or do you see some kind of remedy? That's within eyesight that we can grab and grab hold of to let you know the push us forward. What are your thoughts Steve Date I? Thank you and secondly. I don't know if I. See it that that's SORTA suggests optimism. I don't know that I'm ready to express, but more hopeful than maybe I was a few weeks ago in that it is sad that it took. George Floyd's. And the his murder and the reaction to it. To sort of lead to this necessary national conversation with plenty of Angst and depression and anger, I was glad Michael Jordan his statement. Yesterday used the word anger. So I'm Donna. And Doc. Rivers and I know doc well, and knew his dad and understood I. Think felt the pain that. Some of the pain. Doc Rivers still who grew up the son of a black man in law enforcement. Stephen Our hope that this discussion is not just. Evaporate and sort of go away. But I don't I. Don't know when you look at that list of people that I sort of read a few names from era gardeners. That I can't breathe. How long ago was that? I mean it's not like being introduced to this pain and anger for the first time we've we've had. We've had the exact words and sold the conversation. Then was sort of sparked. It was muted and then it was gone. I think the conversation is the first place we have to start and by the way. While no one using these platforms going to condone violence. Do I understand I. mean listening to Martin Luther King the third yesterday. Quote his father as saying. Violence is the language of the unheard. And so when people say to me, do you understand this hell? Yeah, understand how many times is going to be a knee on your neck? I'm not a turn, the other cheek guy as much as I might. God I, I lies. Martin Luther King and everything. He stood for I'm going to turn. The other cheek got I grew up that way I get I grew up with a father who fled the south because he knew he wasn't going to turn the other cheek. But when you hear that that quote from Martin Luther King through Martin, Luther King the third yesterday. Violence is the language of the unheard. People aren't listening. You know it's like these episodes. Emma talking about the looters. I'm not talking about the people who were just come on the scene to make a noose. Themselves I'm talking about protests legitimate protesters. Listen to me listen you're not listening America hasn't listened. And it starts. Of course you know at sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue where there's no listening to this night and paying attention. There's disdain for it. was. A Great Carl Bernstein said yesterday. Dereliction of duty, and so when you start, the people say lack of leadership that lack of leadership this Dane. For the notion of leading so now that the rest of us have this conversation, and where's the leadership? Coming from maybe is coming from a lot of voices. We've heard. Too often we turn our children. Turn the culture over to celebrities. But in this case yesterday, some of the most famous people in a culture where the people are making the most sense I was overjoyed to hear Jane Fonda last night on CNN. Talk about what had to happen in her opinion, someone who have real protests all her life and understands protests. I'm relieved to hear those voices, and if that also rests with the most famous. And influential people in Sports, then good, this conversation has to go on. Your has to find leaders. I wanted to make sure nobody else's trying to jump in there, but thank you so much. Mike Wilpon for joining us from. Your wisdom, your perspective so valuable in furthering this conversation. We just thank you so much for being with us. Listen thank you. For having me appreciate it. I'm just I'm glad you guys are devoting the time and energy and effort to do this today. Thank you. It's your home speaking and Do me a couple favors. I get that blueberry that rolled under the fridge last week. It's throwing funk. hsi-wei off second thing, bundle your home and car insurance with GEICO. It's easy, and we could save money. 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We have had enough are unified voice needs to put pressure on our leaders to change our laws or else. We need to use our vote to create systemic change every one of us part of the solution and we work together to ensure justice for all. That's Michael Jordan. Our friend, who is like family Marcus Spears also shared his heart on. Get up this morning. Where we watch George Floyd beat choked out and I. Don't care what it is about underlying conditions in all of that. This spirit broke in this country. If broke if broke me because my eleven year old son. Okay Marcus. Take a moment. My Soren! hitter asked me. Why didn't he get off? Open. Stephen is is a guy that I. That has been told me G. You got his mentor be. In everything that I've done in my life. Culminated to me having my children. In trying to give them a better situation when we're black and we're athletes. To the man. The fight is get your family in a better situation because. Something about the system in this country has told us. That if you make it in you. Make a certain amount of money. And you accepted in these circles where we know we would normally have an opportunity to be in because of our talent. Welcome back to I take To be right now. Is the Attorney General? The State of Minnesota Mr Keith Ellison thank you so much. Sir For being on the show. Let's get right to it. the officer Derek Shelvin, he's been arrested and charged with third degree manslaughter Why have the other? Why have not the other three officers been charged as of yet? Well before last night? It was not my case now. That I'm on the case less than twenty four hours. We have been dug in. We're doing express look at the at the avance and the charges. We will be able to go up fairly quick very quick review. We already know a lot. So. They'll. Those things may very well change I. Don't have anything to announce right here right now, but people can trust that we will charge everyone who is culpable and blameworthy, and who has violated the law with the most highest accountability that the law provides for they can be assured of that. That's my pledge of possibility. There are a lot of people that have asked why third degree murder charges against Derek show show show as opposed to second murder. Can you explain why that would be the case? Well actually not can't and the reason. Why is that? When that was charged out, it was not my case. You know there are provisions in second-degree that may and I have to be somewhat circumspect because. We're still in the investigative stage here, but it may apply and so. I think that I'd I'd ask people for something that I don't even have a right to ask them for which is a little bit of patience to get through this evidence because I think that. We may end up amending the complaint, I'm not announcing anything now, but that is certainly a possibility it on the table. Has Body Cam footage been released to you. Finding the police I'm of released. Well we're getting. We're getting it all now. Let me tell you this morning. When we started engaging that process or still, we're still working through it. We haven't even had a full briefing by the Bureau of criminal apprehension yet, but those things are scheduled, and we're moving forward. I would like to say Stephen I'm not going to be in a position in the future the comment on the evidence. It's something that are prosecutor cannot ethically do, but I will tell people this. You know I got good eyesight, and I saw what everybody else saw. was disturbed us as much as anyone else, and we are committed to bringing justice to this for everyone involved and for the highest level of accountability that we can. How should people be feeling about the state of Minnesota right now when it comes to law enforcement when there's an office that had eighteen complaints against them, and only to sort disciplinary action. We need we need reform. Brother we need we need. We need deep level reformer. Our chief of police is dedicated to reform. Madeira Air was the one who fired the floor officers within twenty four hours yet. Our city has a police federation. Where you know the president essentially operates like an alternative cheap. Who Alibis bad behavior all the time. WHO DOESN'T WANNA reform anything, but the reform is coming anyway. I think the cheapest committed. You need some help. City Council members committed to it, but it's a long drive to reform, but we are on that direction, but we do. People should feel like it's completely unsatisfactory. In deeply appreciate your time during this busy morning. Thank you so much. Take care of yourself looking forward to talk in the future. Thank you very much upgrade day. Thank you so much steven. A. and Mr Ellison for that interview Steven when opening up to you for some final thoughts on today. It's been a rough week in. A rough week. Week Ago George Floyd. We saw him murdered. That is what black people feel. That is what we hold. the law enforcement industry. I'd rather judicial system ultimately as a clue conclusion, it will reach. He was appropriate. Lead the officer in question appropriately arrested. Charged with third degree murder, although according to my sources, he's been let out on. The other three officers should be charged as well. These are the kind of things that we know. What America needs to realize that this particular moment in Time Laura. It's incredibly essential that as we move forward. We make sure we recognize the importance of bringing attention. To the agreed just acts exercise by law, enforcement officials, but just as equally as important. As, far as to recognize the fact, there are a whole lot of people out there. WHO HAPPENED NOT TO BE African Americans that are speaking up about this issues and issues that have permeate our community and of drastically affected us. They know it's unfair. They know it's agreed. They know that we've been prejudiced against. They know that racism still exists that still to flagrant too alarming to ignore. And people are speaking up and that is a beautiful thing. Because when that happens particularly when that voice emanates from Young, White folks you know change is possible because the people in power. Ultimately these are their children, and they're not going to be ostracized. I said earlier we got a president that brought up dogs waiting for protesters. We noticed unacceptable. We know something needs to be done. and. It's hopefully it's in the process of being done right now. Something desperately needs to be done. And I hope that this is just beginning of a fight. NOT THE END

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Decided to abandon that they left the the last of the Mohicans really is Joe Lieberman and the fact that he's had to leave the party was pushed out as sort of a symbol of how the the Democrats gave up on the Cold War they love to say, Oh, the Cold War was a time when we all agree everything was so simple Clinton's used to say that. All agreed I was in every one of the fights in the eighties they fought tooth and nail against every Reagan policy and they were wrong on every single one starting with the freeze starting with the buildup starting with strategic defenses starting with what I call the Reagan, doctrine of supporting anti communist guerrillas starting everywhere and they they walk around saying Oh it was so easy and we got it right they got it wrong. They were unwilling to recognize evil to do something about facing down, and that's the same problem that we have today a Barack Obama who won't even say the words radical Islam who won't identify the enemy and who thinks for example as we speak today. That he can make a detente, some kind of philosophical arrangement and went hegemonic. Presence in the Middle East with Iran. People where the leader chance death to America, and where they're building in a continental ballistic missiles, which I can assure you. You don't need if you're an Iranian to hit Tel Aviv that's not intercontinental distance of that's a short term rocket ICBM's rating of the continent meeting hitting us, and that's the same philosophical strain. That I'm afraid has afflicted the Democrats since the Vietnam War when that part of the party the John Kennedy Part Hubert Humphrey Park Harry Truman part, which was we will bear any burden. And that was less important than the end of that sentence is Kennedy's ought. To secure their survival of liberty. And All right folks. So there you have some audio from the League Great Charles Krauthammer that was actually from a little over five years ago today the reason I wanted to open with that. kind of thought. It was Kinda good snapshot of what we're watching happen right now. To keep him out of this from five years ago. But if you listen to Joe Biden, he's recycling a lot of the same things that this I was just talking about in this audio from before he passed away for those of you who may not know Charles Krauthammer is probably one of the most prominent conservative mines in America before his passing and if you haven't done, so encourage you to go find a lot of his stuff on YouTube because. What he's basically talking about. There's you know there was a time when we had socially liberal fiscally conservative. That's but they were aware that there was such a thing as evil but even back, then they were still fighting tooth and nail about everything because they always seem to have this idea. Well, eventually if we if we if we just do this just the right way, we can all sit around the tree and sing coon by maybe hug the tree when we're done. The problem is it never works. So. If you listen to Joe Biden and some of the speech that he gave yesterday. Where he's talking about the fact that if you if you vote for me. Then, we're going to bring back shovel ready jobs. Everything under Donald Trump is falling apart. Is falling apart. But if you vote for me, we'll fix it because we already fixed it when me and Barack, Obama didn't it back in two thousand nine? So my first thought was well, if you fixed it in two thousand nine, why only shits still broken now? Baskin I don't understand how you're saying you fixed it when it's still broken not to mention the fact that he's talking about shovel ready jobs and fixing infrastructure and and going to bring back windmills because you know this president windmills is causing cancer here. But when meals really ways to bring American jobs back for Americans Blah Blah Yada Yada Yada Yada Yada Yada don't know what the fuck I'm talking about with L. teleprompter because my name is Joe motherfucking Biden. Oh I'm so tired of this already I. Usually I'm going to be honest I usually live for for election seasons because I am a political animal and I usually enjoy taking things apart putting them back together seeing what makes them work seeing how the public is reacting to it but this is this is a shit show. It has been a shit show from the moment the Joe Biden decided to start doing. Political campaigns groundhog day style because basically he keeps coming out of the little hole coming out saying something long enough to realize Oh shit there's my shadow go back in the whole again and hope to God that I can keep everybody detention long enough to be able to beat Donald Trump. The thing about it is if it wasn't for the fact that Donald Trump is on, you know me I tried to call it a straight as I can. So I, apologize. Katie one that I'm about to PISS OFF BUT DONALD TRUMP is a novice politician and he's not transitioning well from being a person who's running for the offers a president who hasn't been there yet to a person who is president and actually needs to not only defend the fact that he's president but explained to the American people why he needs to be president for four more years because the media is our enemy and Joe Biden soaks is not is not going to bring people. To the booths. Is really not. And this is where Donald Trump knob being very articulate. I think is going to start hurting him. Because he has so many things that he should be talking about and instead he's using the Rose Garden as a boxing ring with Joe Biden. With you taking the fight to Joe the way you are, you're giving him a munition. Look folks it's going to be completely honest as the guy at the top of the hill, he doesn't need to be the one taking shots. He needs to keep explaining to the American people. Look. This is what he's telling you. He's going to do. This is what we're going to do. He tells you he wants to do this. But if he does that this is what's going to happen to the jobs that we brought back into this country. There's so many things that he should be using the soapbox and the platform that he has for and punching Joe Biden in the face literally is not it. Because he needs to learn the finesse. Of How to do this? Because he has everything on his side, remember before covert, we had the lowest unemployment rates in history. We've already seen millions of jobs try to come roaring back before the media's that Oh, we can't have any of this. We gotta clamp everything back down again because Oh. My God we're all going to die. It's the covert again not to mention the fact that we're now up to. What you Russia collusion hoax three, point five, I mean they're literally throwing everything they can at him at the same tiny. All at once he's weathering every single bit of it, but he just not doing well on the messaging. Now don't get me wrong on the key when he's campaigning he's awesome. He's in front of these es in front of his crowd. He's he's working the room. He's doing what he always does, but he needs to try to be able to transition from someone who is campaigning to someone who was governing and Punching Joe Biden verbally in the face over and over and over again from the White House and from the Rose Garden isn't going to get it done. Now No that me wrong I still think there's a really good chance that he may wind up carrying the day. Because I don't believe most of these polls. But he should be running away. With this thing and he's not. At. least not on paper but he should be because it's Joe Biden. Nobody even knows what he stands for. He has morphed his own positions, fifteen times in the twenty four months and he's been running for office. He was built by the Democratic Party, a centrist. Now he's far left of Obama. Donald. Trump should legitimately be wiping the floor with this man, but because he's too busy taking the fight to joe instead of making Joe Bring, the fight to him it makes it look like he's got him on his heels. What also makes it look like, and again, this is me you know political scientists guy like to take this kind of stuff apart put it back together see how it works. The other thing is that really makes Donald Trump look like he's on the ropes right now is they just made a surprise announcement that they had of his campaign is being demoted. That shouldn't have been done in the framing of how it's being done. Because for the last three weeks, donald trump has been telling everybody. All these polls are fake where do what? Really really great. All the areas that were polling we have awesome numbers. You just can't see them because we're seeing all this stuff behind the scenes and they're wonderful and they're awesome and they're amazing and now will I need a new campaign director. That's not sending the right message to the people that you spent a month thread to convince the opole numbers can't be believed. It least if you were going to do it, try to spend it is a positive. SHAE, you're promoting into something else I mean look I get it. The critics would have chewed him up, spit him out, but they're going to do that already anyway. But now you're gonNA, people from the base go I thought he just told us. That that whole numbers were wrong. So if poll numbers are wrong, why is he fire and the guy that was in charge of the Campaign Martha I just don't understand what's going on right now because he just told us everything's fine and he's going to be president after November but he just fired his campaign manager is. The is easy. Trying to tell the something we shouldn't be worried about here. Should should maybe we'd be worried that it's about to be Biden's America. I don't know if it is or it isn't because. I didn't do very good at college when he's sixteen. So I'm not even trying to get into that boat again this year but I'm GonNa tell you I'm voting for. A mountain you that because it's going to get your opinion I'm going to tell you that because most of you know my story know that I did everything I could not only help the Libertarian Party get on the ballot Oklahoma I had the head of Libertarian Party on this show dozens of times during the two thousand sixteen run up. Basically, I got told by the head of the Libertarian, party that we don't want your car here. So I took my toys and said Fuck you. And since then I've been been in waiting we're GONNA come. Pardon me. When it comes to President Donald Trump. And I've watched him basically do things that make me WanNa. Pull my hair out. But I've also Boston pass policies and do things that it made me realize that the guy no matter how much I might not get along with Donald Trump the man I've never met him in person. So I don't really know how well we would get along but based on how he behaves on social media I'm not so sure that we would. But while I may or may not have issues with Donald trump the man I can't really have issue with Donald trump the president because everything that he's done has worked. I like everything the media's giving Him Shit for now look folks we talked about this last hour we talked about it a little bit this morning if we're right if the numbers right come on a Florida. And they're reporting things order of magnitude higher than they actually are as far as positive test results. How do we know that's not going on in other places? How much of this is Media Spin Not only is it media spend but how much of it is being fueled by the fact that the covid pandemic has been monetize D- And I'm not saying it's a hoax. Please do not put the that basket because that's not what I'm saying this is an actual virus. I'm just about a million percent positive that I had it somewhere between November January? Because I felt like crap for two months to the point where I was pretty sure it. was going to die, and then they started giving me all the started reading all the symptoms of them again had that one had that one shortness of breath yet check dry cough check fever off and on couldn't get it under control check went to the doctor three times being told well, we're pretty sure I was trained to the flu just here have this CPAC in these steroids are here what you should be should be good in a few days. Pretty sure if I went back to my doctor and had them run the antibody. They would find out that I have coveted antibodies in my system because I'm pretty sure had a months ago but the reason I bring this up is because first of all, there are too many stories that have come out now about this thing probably being in the country much earlier than we realized. Which means China was again lying to us about so many things. Because, remember according to China up until even January human-to-human transmission was impossible. Now the WHO trying to whitewash that change. Well, they actually told us about that and December that they had their first cases human-to-human transmission. But yeah, that's not true because the story came out just a couple of weeks ago from WHO that said you know that time that we everybody from December, it turns out we honestly didn't even find out really for sure what was going on until we heard from Hong Kong. January thirteenth. So the entire time line that the Democrats have used to try to spend this Donald Trump's sitting on his hands since the last week of December. Seeds because of his failure because we should've locked everything down back in the end, of December, we would have been fine if he would have done that. But let's not forget. That is soon within a wake of the whol making the announcement that they made January down from certain locking down travel to China, and he was a racist for doing it. So this revisionist history from the Democrats is really starting to Piss me off. The idea that we now know that big counties in Florida, have been reporting numbers incorrectly and I don't care how much they try to spin it. You cannot tell me it wasn't on purpose I'm not necessarily saying whether it was on purpose to damage the president or not, but I can tell you that I'm a thousand percent certain that one of the reasons they were reporting everything as high as they were is because it opened the floodgates for government funding. I've seen the way the numbers work. You guys have heard the way the numbers work. The simple fact of the matter is they started monetize. Results and somebody figured out how to open the floodgates to hell with the fact that terrifies everybody. It makes it look like on paper we have one of the largest spikes we've ever seen since New York City. padding our wallet who the cares. All right. So we skipped the first break because they're gonNA late start where the bottom of the hour. Officially, we need to go and take a break. We're going to get things reset. When we come back, we've got a of the week they're going to finish up a little bit of fun because. Someone who I don't like to talk about because we shared name kind of added to buy cartoons earlier. So we are going to be talking to you about that anyway. So. Let's see what are we wanNA. Why don't we want to go to break? Let's do this one. All right we will be right back ladies and gentlemen. This is America off the rails I am host Robson, his Wednesday night otherwise no one is chat matter day right here on Keilor radio team no pay represent back on the other side. Off? If, you prefer real mornings. 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Hello and welcome to before the week we're a show that reviews last week's news and current events searching for people who did or said something. So ethically more onic that they earn a chance to be enshrined alongside of some of the biggest buffoons memorialize in the angels of annals of history and the best part is you get to choose the winner just leave us a comment right down blows with you with your choice or head. On over to any of our social media and sound of their with your vote flew the week. The last time you voted you chose NASCAR driver bubble wallace out of a bunch of choices in our first ever free-for-all feel free at checkout that video for that whole is it a news? Is it a rope drama which split both America and our nominating committee? I guess you thought that the double down by Wallace was buffoon worthy. Pretty bold choice. If you ask me for those of you, check us out for the first time. We released weekly videos on Mondays at ten am eastern time. So if you do smash that thumbs up button and please consist describing to the show as we continue our march towards our next minor benchmark of two hundred subscribers. Help US get there. Will you? It's just a small click of a button for you but to us, it's a signal to really kick things up a notch. You'll see what I mean once we get there. Before. We unveiled this week nominees. We're going to salute those who really put in an effort this past week, but just came up short of earning one of our top two spots hero. This week's dishonorable mentions. Last week. The band formerly known as lady antebellum continued the worst PR stunt in history by filing a lawsuit against Anita lady a white to claim usage of her stage name after the original eight demanded ten million dollars to share the name. This. Is like that kid in preschool stealing your favourite toy but then thinks he's so good because he agreed to share it with you. It's my toy damn and AL decide who I want to. Sorry flashback. Really story will get worse before it gets better next we have to WANNA be politicians we start with K. W. Miller, a Florida Republican congressional candidate who launched a tirade on twitter claiming that Megastar beyond say is an Italian deep state globalist Soros operative who buries coded Satanic messages in her songs and keep satanic symbols in her purse. That may be the biggest Lotta crazy. We ever put into one sentence and keep in mind we once nominated Alex Jones. On the other side of the aisle is Democrat Jonathan. Lopez of Oregon who admitted that he sent himself in anonymous racist letter during his own race in an apparent attempts to drum up sympathy and to leverage today's heated racial climate, his advantage, and he's still ended up losing anyway but it goes to show you folks buffoonery is bipartisan and is not exclusive to just one party in other news photo surfaced last week a perennial the AFC on the campaign trail and the People's Republic of new. York City. Pulling down her mask true blow bubbles towards a little girl who was wearing a mask lava science on whether Cova bubbles exists is clearly unsettled AOC opened herself up to the argument from the opposition that wearing a mask is more vow people control than it is about disease control speaking of hypocrisy we are back on the Bozo Watch last week. Good old the BLASIO. Made it clear that large gatherings for events around the city including little Italy's Feast of San Genero and your city fashion week are canceled. But the woke crowd that he panders to they don't need to worry because protests are still allowed. It is simply amazing to see progressives like AMC and Bill de Blasio thinking that Kobe doesn't affect political activities. As you recall if you reach Blasio said that contact tracers can't ask people if they attended the protests. So here's what we're GONNA do if you're. Looking to have a lodge group together be sure to call it a protest to slide past this genius. But then again, he might just show up for a photo off and final checkout. Don. Lemon's Daily Double of stupidity I don Tokes over black actor Terry crews by blacks cleaning the real mission of the black lives matter movement. Here's what I have to say. The black lives matter movement was started because it was talking about police brutality. All black lives matter movement that talks about gun violence in communities including black communities. This start that movement with that name. But that's not what black lives matter is about. It's not an all encompassing. So if you're talking about if someone started move with that said. Cancer Matters. And someone comes into wide you talking about HIV it's not the same thing. When you look at their organization police brutality is not the only thing they're talking about i. Agree, but that's what the black lives matter. Movement is about. Black. Lives matters about talent and Browde in about criminal justice it's not about. What happens in communities when it comes to crime black on Black Hawk people who live near each other black people kill each other same his wife. Then later on last week lemon goes from blacks plane. Take. Jesus cleaning but here's the thing. Jesus Christ if you believe in it do. You believe in Jesus Christ. Admittedly, was not perfect when he was here on this earth. So why are we defying the founders of this country many of who owned slaves and in the constitution, the original one they didn't want they they put slavery in that that slavery should should be abolished because it was the way the King Juan and then the congress said no way and so they have to come up with an alternative about we should have cost point out that the Bible actually does say that Jesus was woman original sin and is indeed perfect. But clearly don lemon knows better than all of us including God In the face of this week's nominees even lemons double dip fails to make the cut. As this week we nominate convicted Liar Michael Cohen and Hitler quoting Football Star Sean Jackson who are both hen shoulders above the rest. This week's first nominee is former trump fixer and convicted liar Michael Cohen back in two thousand eighteen cone was sentenced to three years in federal prison after pleading guilty to tax evasion and campaign finance violations. Wing Kobe nineteen broke out combs many nonviolent prisoners afforded the privilege of serving house arrest out of concern for their health and wellbeing quite the step up from federal lockup. What is being thankful for the breaky God Cohen? You'd like he was a freeman going on social media whenever he wanted. So it can post what he sees while strolling down Madison Avenue and even getting caught out on the town with friends by the New York Post which plastered photos of his late. Night Social. Activities on its front page Oh yeah. This totally seems like hard time to me. So on his next court appearance days after this night out Cohen was taken back into custody when he refused to agree to written terms of his house arrest, of course, cones legal team was taking totally by surprise with one attorney. Raja Adler claiming that it is not a crime to go out and support local businesses during the pandemic. It is when you're under house arrest Roger as we released this Video Cohen is currently in an apartment New York prison in Corona virus related solitary confinement where he has plenty of time to think about how his own arrogance landed him back here. Like what you see so far go ahead and smash that thumbs up button also leave us a comment and tell us what you're thinking and don't forget to subscribe. So you never miss another show. This week second nominee is Philadelphia Eagles wide receiver to Sean Jackson last week. Jackson. Posted anti-semitic messages on social media which included a fabricated quote attributed to Adolf Hitler that has been promoted by the Black Hebrew Israelites a group that's connected to a deadly shooting rampage in a kosher market last year in Jersey City New Jersey. He also posted and deleted other posts expressing. For Black Nationalists as well as known bigot Louis. Farrakhan obviously the show US thinking. I don't know what Allie stinking. As you can imagine the backlash which quicken painful but it wasn't as one side of that you think other former sports stars like MBA, baller Steven Jackson, and NFL Hall of Fame Shannon Sharpe actually stepped into somewhat defend. Jackson for his part Jackson posted a subsequent semi apology pleading. Quotes origin's behalf of myself I just wanted to let you allow pleasure is I've been. Intended? Any harm. Any hatred towards any people for one of? is stated every every day with a number. Of My heart never try to. Put another religion downside of. Mar Religion Array. So different about a more hurt I just want you guys understand that in this for me and my feelings and Hopefully everybody respects. Powerful, Pinson, try to just my people and there's just let everybody knows that. Snow history. But, even at the apology, the damage had been done as the eagles and the NFL all came down Jackson with the very strong penalty of. A stern talking to. I mean seriously guys we give out bigger punishments, two children but don't you worry folks we gotta to keep a close eye on the situation to see if the NFL takes away Sean Jackson playstation or intimate privileges any amount of time in the near future. Hey don't forget that before the week is all over social media. So when you're online, make sure you like us on facebook you follow us on the twitter's and gone over the instagram and like there too. But the most important thing you have to do is remember to subscribe right here on Youtube. After a few weeks away it's time once again to break down the nominees so you can make an informed choice. So welcome back our trademark pending Sharpton scale buffoonery I it'll measure the buffoonish nature of each nominee I comparing them to the only non perfect buffoons, the Reverend Al. Sharpton then we'll measure the magnitude of each nominees actions using our custom unit measurement the sharpen time to put in that work. To say that, Michael Cohen let his arrogance get the better of him. Maybe the understatement of the year all he had to do was keep his head down show a little humility and stay out of the limelight. But much like his former client, he craves being a somebody. That's why he was out on the town. That's why he's on social media hosting videos and talking about a book deal, and that's why he's now in federal lockup. Cohen earns a person scores seventy eight while his actions rate, a wapping two, hundred and seventy, seven, point zero, two, Giga sharpens. This may be the Sean Jackson's first political before entering, but he is not a stranger to controversy on the field reports go back as far as two thousand nine about Jackson's alleged gang connections after an arrest in La and he was once cut from the Eagles in two twenty fourteen for his alleged bad attitude that said, this social media posting has less to do a bad behavior and more to do with being ill informed like many before him Jackson didn't have a clue what he was posting about but you think the word Hitler appearing in the Post would raise a red flag. So Jackson rates of sixty five and his subsequent apology takes the down at the fear to Amir eighty-eight. Gigi Sharpe's. And so the stage is set for yet another titanic battle of epic buffoonery. But only one can we? Tell us who you got for this week's but for the week. 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I literally had to beat myself this morning because I almost choked to death on coffee. This is the one the only the irrefutable Rick Wilson getting his ass handed to him by a bunch of tunes. Here we go. On the sites, you guys can actually hear it now. Let's talk about the Lincoln Project. It's burst onto the political scene with the series of viral anti trump videos that have even caught the president's attention trump tweeted this about you and your colleagues quote I didn't use any of them because they don't know how to win and their so called Lincoln project is a disgrace to honest Abe low trump is not usually so sensitive, how did you get under trump's thick? Skin. It is amazing that this man of such a sterling moral character and constitution was irritated by a few political consultants who made some viral videos about him. He's normally very, very much the the robust strapping man who stoically takes any adversity or he's a winding bitch addicted to twitter. Is a bitch that is the biggest insult comparing someone to a woman I. Hate Us. Now let's talk about who is involved with the Lincoln project at least seven members of leadership team are Bush Cheney campaign alumni and I got to say we really Miss Bush. He always did what was right for the country that country being Saudi Arabia George, W Bush had such skill unlike trump he knew how to keep human suffering a few more degrees of separation away from us. There's no president in the history of this country has done more to abuse the the office of the presidency to treat Americans in ways that are racially and morally and economically divisive and he is. Unquestionably the worst president or history agree with you rick trump's failures are much much worse than George W Bush's trump is responsible for bad deficit increases bad corruption bad racism and bad countless deaths thought to George W, Bush. On the other hand is responsible for good deficit increases good corruption, good racism and good countless Dad's know I missed the Republican Party before in brace trump back when it only laid the groundwork for him moving on, you've received glowing reviews from the MSNBC. Let's take a look at this big at Mar of these never trumpers at a bull walk people in elected project I don't give money to local organizations I've given money to the tilling project because. This Lincoln project is like watching a Jay Z NAS rat battle, I mean they don't let up on this President I want the Democrats to pay attention to the Lakers project to doing superb job the Lincoln project. Those are good commercials Rick. How. Rewarding is it to win over the people? You've demonized your entire career you know what? The person I'm interested in demonizing right now is donald trump and the personal lincoln projects focused on his donald trump. And the fact is that Americans, from all walks of life have recognized that that every we need all hands on deck in this fight to save this country and you know what I allies come from all different stripes in all different walks of life and I'm happy to accept the support and encouragement from folks across the spectrum. Now, you've written tweets, disparaging Muslims and members of the LGBTQ community but we. Have to take issue with your remarks on attendees of the Liberal Net Roots Conference. You tweeted dear nut roots, lefties you are Barack Obama's bitch pathetic little horse satisfied with crumbs and head pats Rick. When was the exact moment? You realize those pathetic little horse could be tapped for money. You know the fact of the matter is everyone on twitter has lives lives in a culture where there's a lot of fronting. Talk Okay and not a requirement that you have on twitter from the past is something that you're gonna live with forever. These things are these things are a culture that runs both ways. The Lincoln Project has been wildly successful and is growing faster than ever. The Washington Post reports that quote advisors. Lincoln project, which they say has about thirty employees and raised sixteen point, eight, million dollars. This quarter will expand to include ground operations. Now, give him a half worked for Bush for these new ground operations how people expect to die. All I can say we'll be greeted as liberators had worked last time right let's talk about how the Lincoln projects spends. All those matter of yours money here is how much three other top liberal super PACs spent on operating expenditures compared to total disbursements. In other words, the percentage spent on overhead costs including salaries over their lifetime Senate majority packs spends sixteen point eight percent on overhead unite. The country is fourteen point seven, five percent in. American. Bridge twenty-first-century is forty, six, point seven percent. What do you think the percentages for the Lincoln Project? Well, you're going to see our new report coming out in July, which represents our first. The first major. Period our campaign that wasn't involved in startup cost an acquisition awesome data data costs, and you're going to see that we are we are putting eighty five cents of every dollar voter contact eighty, five percent with fifteen percent going overhead would be a lot better because right now it's the opposite eleven. percent goes to independent expenditures. An eighty nine percent goes to overhead eighty nine point three percent on overhead sounds like a lot. But I can't get into the right head space to make ten second ad without wolfing down endangered molluscs in a titanium catamarans with Bush administration buddies. Before you're looking at the start up an acquisition costs from the first quarter. The second quarter is GONNA show that we have a massive amount of money escrow, the bank for media and for voter contact this fall and our numbers are competitive with any other pack and in fact, much better than most. nope. So that's a lot of cash. All right. Well, given all this. We had our media arm, which is me and I'm expensive make new Lincoln Project at Table President Trump is the most incompetent corrupt president in history and we need to do everything. We can to stop him after compensating our strategists complicit in the deaths of countless innocent lives and paying for overhead such as lodging at the w hotel and the standard both of which have fantastic roof decks stop this corrupt Griffin ruining America donate to these savvy grafters who ruined before and hope you don't look into them. All Right, Rick. Hoover up some more route cash. So that's all the time we have. Thank you to our analysts and guests Rick Wilson of the Lincoln project thanks a lot rick. You. Really should go look at this because right now he looks like. He's me. On inside the hill now Rick I. Actually I don't know if you've seen this on the Internet, but there's a lot of take videos going around and I actually did a reverse where you cut into the cake and there's a shoe inside of it. Had you ever seen anything like that? Yeah. There's this funny trend where when you look into the details of something, it's different. So they have. One. A Stephen calbears projects was apparently is called tuning out news apparently available in CVs, all access, or you can actually find that clip on. If you will look but yeah, basically show Rick Wilson. Handed to him by a bunch of cartoons. Now just because I was in a bit of a mood today and I don't like Rick Wilson because he called me basically a cell at once when I was in wait-and-see mode. Regarding the president. Once he got elected when we were still speaking to each other. I started having a little bit of fun. Is it an expense today? Just for fun, it never really took off, but I try to get a Hashtag started called Hashtag ponce cartoons. My most recent one which was about three or three hours ago at the Rick Wilson was. Was Recently Ponce Cartoon. So hard I hear the Scooby Doo villains have. Sympathy gift basket. And probably a little too dry humor for twitter but I was having fun with it. They're actually if you of those, I put out today feel free go check them out if you want that is going to do it for this particular episode of America off the rails I be back with you guys bright and early tomorrow morning at seven am eastern four, the daily dose. This concludes Chat Lives Matter Day. No guys just doesn't mean you have to put your pants back on don't panic. Everybody asked me that at the end of the show this mean. Matter and gives you. Know I don't care Muslims are working from home right now. Anyway where what you want just don't send me any pictures I don't need to know. All right we're GONNA GET OUTTA here. But as you guys are aware that does mean that this particular show as of right now is officially over said as I say, that's right this one's over. Over. Over Nothing is over until we decided this. Was it all? Germans bombed Pearl honor. How Closing time. All the doors and led chew out in two. Closing plus great. Don't. Don't don't don't don't don't don't. Don't know go. Ahead. Very. motormen over.

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The Sedano Show (Matt Barnes)

Afternoons with Marcellus & Kelvin

18:23 min | 4 months ago

The Sedano Show (Matt Barnes)

"Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why IBM is helping businesses manage customer questions with Watson Assistant It's conversational designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work. Visit IBM. Dot Com slash, Watson assistant seventeen ESPN is presented by progressive insurance. All our guests appear via the Shell Pennzoil. Performance Line Matt born joins US here year longtime NBA veteran. You could check him out all the smoke podcast with him and Steven Jackson some of the best stuff. You can listen to right now it's it's a mixture of everything sports culture. It's it's an unbelievable listen, so do yourself a favor and get on it. Mad Of course it Ucla legend as wild joining us here, so matt thanks for taking the time and hope you and yours are healthy and safe, obviously a lot of stuff going on this NBA restart and the big topic of conversation. This week has been the position. Of Kyrie Irving. Dwight Howard. And Avery Bradley now since then. Avery Bradley his kind of veered off a little bit and a little more definitive in what he would like to see from the NBA its partners. We'll get to that in a second, but just kind of water, your overall views of Kyrie and the guys on that phone call and just kinda his position in general. I think it's unfortunate, obviously with four hundred fifty guys. It's going to be hard to get everyone to agree on everything But you at the same time you have to respect everyone You know opinion and I think that's where I initially jump to conclusions than in Kinda. Said some things when I was talking to Jack like it was just me and him for getting the that the world was watching But my whole thing was and like you said Avery Bradley is kind of off. To to sit out just to sit out is pointless. Sit Out with the plan is what's most important right now so before I saw with Avery Bradley said and I think like I. said as long as you have a plan, I'm going to support that plan, but just to sit out, and that's what Kyri initially said. It made no sense. I feel right now that the black voices stronger than it's ever been any particularly. The the black athlete voices struggle with ever been so right now we really have the momentum, and and and in a lot of people behind to go out and make change and I think that starts with making some demands to some of these owners. As as far as being know what's really give back to communities and do things not just for the PR move for a one time donation, but really do think to give back to these communities that we came from. You know I'm very passionate about the community became from and get back and do them. But, we can only do so much. You know what I mean. These owners are billionaires coming to set up in these in majorities, urban cities that need help desperately and I think it's. Called a call to action for these guys to really Kinda. Start giving back to these communities also diversifying management I. Think there's some things that in some talking points. They're gonNA. Come up with those are just some things I just came off the top of my head, but Go in make these demands, and if these demands are met then it out, but just to sit out I think you're missing the moment in the opportunity to possibly. Face a sports and help this country. Matt Barnes this year Yeah Look. I couldn't agree more. You gotTa have a strategy and it's clear that avery has a strategy because he's alluded to some of the stuff that you mentioned. Which is the NBA and its partners making investments in the black community and Whether it's the NBA itself as a League whether it's the individual owners to be held accountable in this situation, but not only them Matt like. I go a step further, the shoe companies right and the apparel companies I think that this is a moment to seize beyond just the NBA, while I agree with that part of it in the NBA Community, being involved here I would take it a step further and involved the apparel companies to. Absolutely no, absolutely I, think everyone who is at the end of day making money office, because they see our contracts and everything, and and and they're the guys making crazy crazy money for athletes, but if they're making that much money, how much money are these owners making? How much money are these apparel companies making so I think you hit on the head. George I think there's a real ass. Because the League seventy five percent African American so obviously without this league. There would be no mba you know, so. I think it's time that they really stopped. you know doing just enough to say faith and realize the really be a part of this change I feel like for the first time in four hundred years the world here this. Unfortunately, it had become through some looting and burning stuff down, but nothing else has worked up to this point we've been asking for. Equal ground for four hundred years. We've been silently protesting. We've been doing peaceful marches. We've been putting our fifth. Their Capture Caen none of that work. You know we're finally at a point in twenty twenty. Where they here I think not only does the NBA have to plan, but the you know the the the African American community minorities in this country have to have a plan as well because now they're listening now. They want to hear what we want and go in there blindly just continuing to do bad stuff or sit out or or do stuff without a plan. I think is really counterproductive and we're really going to be hurting. Our children and our grandchildren if we don't come up with strategy right now. Matt Barnes joining us here Matt. You look you lived. You were there during the Donald. Sterling. Situation a very unprecedented situation Adam silver took control of that situation very quickly, so you you've been involved in something that that caused real change very quickly when it came to the NBA are. You confident that Adam Silver, and we'll come to the owners and will come to apparel companies, and will kind of move this 'cause forward. Are you confident? That will be the case. I'm confident that he's the Best Commissioner for it now whether these owners do it. I can't speak for these owner. You know I I can't say their. We've we've we've been able to hear loud and clear. Said if we have going to bat for us as far as the commissioner, Adam silver is the best person to do it. And also you know our our president Chris Paul. you know he's always the President Dan with Donald. When Donald Sterling stuff happened, he's the president now, and he's always on it. He when I've been talking to you know a lot last week or so just kinda gauge and bouncing ideas off each other, and you know him Kinda. Just telling me what's going on in the climate and their coach Louis forward so I think the situation left in good hands. like I mentioned at the beginning of the interview. It's just it would be better if we can get. Maybe, open up the communication more, so we can try to get a majority or all of the guys on the same page, because not only in basketball, but in the country the only way we're going to move forward. Is We finally together? We've always been a African Americans. We've always been our own worst enemy. We've always been divided and I. Think for the first time. This is an opportunity for us to really really come together and make change Dalian sports, but in the country, possibly the world. I agree wholeheartedly Matt Though there is you mentioned and again I this is not on the same level as you were discussing, but there is some division. Amongst the NBA players not just about the restart, but even more recently right like a Kendrick Perkins. We all know we all love him right like he's been very vocal particularly about Kyrie and maybe got a little personal. About Kyrie and Kevin Durant goes on instagram and rips him calls him a sell out, and then perk goes over the top on twitter. What do you make of that back and forth? And how do you try to remedy that and kind of bring people more together even with Mindy NBA Family? It's tough and to be honest with you. It's not a good luck. you know a chance to talk to perk last night? And and and he is speaking his truth in real opinion, you know he heard from. People close to the situation that. Kyri situation happened the way it did. He was very pro. Let's do this. Let's do this. And then he found out he couldn't go, and then he flipped the script. And then he wanted to play in really really willing to give up everything and you know to each his own, but how you be so gung Ho one week, and then the next week. You know you're completely flipped. Amanda Allowed to change his mind and at that, but like I said I would agree with Korea if when he said. Let's not play I'm willing to give up everything if he came up if he had a plan after that. You know because like I. I said this is we all know that is putting dribbling? Put the ball in. A HOOP is not going to change our current climate, but I think the message they can send every second. They get a chance to Wa. The whole world is our on them and getting these partners in the league, and he's owners to make a difference in the cities and make a different both actually just playing basketball is not going to change everything. It's GonNa ease people's minds. Lord knows we need that right now, but as far direct change wearing t-shirts and all the stuff that we've done. The past hasn't moved the needle at all. Matt what did you make of the stuff that Kyri said about starting his own league? Like what did you make of that? But the. I heard that he didn't say that I. Don't know if he did say that. Now, what ever is the time for? That kinda thought outside the box. Thinking when you think about the districts. Currently not impossible, but it's pretty up there in the ninety percents. How far as not being possible at this point you know if you WANNA have basketball player in the next year or two you know did the NBA is over one hundred years old, and it took him so long to get two words that now sort of completely. Destroyed that in start something new for us by US like I, said I love the outside the box thinking, but the realistic operas you know? Realistically of that happening. I just don't see it happening. Like. The play, and if that's the plan. If you're on that, you can find enough people to get involved I I'm all for playing. I'm just not for trying to mess up a movement without a plane. Right only get Matt Barnes with this year Ucla great of course, longtime NBA, veteran, NBA champion, check out the podcast all the smoke with him and Steven Jackson. It's phenomenal. Let me ask you this Matt? If you were returning. If you were a player right now, what would be your biggest concern? What are things that would concern you about the bubble and it could be something as important as safety or even something that may not be on people's radars right now. To be honest with you I would trust. That the NBA has done everything possible to to have me say if I was still playing to go out there, but to be honest with you. Kobe wouldn't. You know range on my mind is heavy at some might think I think the biggest thing on my mind, and and where I would make sure I was front center in involved in would be moving forward with this lack lives fatter and ask you for change from the owners and partners I would be the number one pressing issue to me. but outside of that. If you think about it, obviously, you know being over near family for that long. It's GONNA be tough. But I think it would be like a cool you situation. You know what I mean. You've got all the best players in the world and one little area. You know you're GONNA have a lot of come rata read. There's there's thing to do to stay busy. I would I would I would be excited at the opportunity now. Probably be golfing every day. There's a lot of stuff for these guys to do that just kind. Kind of clear their mind if they've created a fun atmosphere thinking outside the box to be able to even try to bring the NBA back which which I have you know? Wherever came up with everything out over his team? The Players Association Chris Paul I love their thinking but like I said I think my most pressing issue wouldn't necessarily be my concern about the bubble or or Kobe mindless pressing issue would be. Proud to strike while the iron is hot with these owners. Matt couple of quick ones for you before we let you go and thank you again for all your time. There's a lot of questions and I don't think anyone has the answers to this, so we're all guessing here right, but when it comes to the actual, restart I think the NBA's done a good job to try to level the playing field. Right teams will have their training camps at their home facility than they'll get to Orlando, you know twenty some odd days. Days before the start of games do another training camp. They're even some exhibition games kind of get guys ramped up, but do you believe that the stoppage maybe favors certain teams or certain kinds of players more than others like? Do you guys have an advantage in this situation over older players like? Do you have any idea about that or any feelings about that? I just WANNA say the world is in trouble because the bronze have been resting for four months. We've never seen. A well breath in the BRA. The brand has always from the day. He's got Paradis team. As far as they've gone whether that. Be You know playoffs? You know eight finals finals. But he's always had to do that all the heavy lifting for him to have this long off for for Hawaii Leonard, who you know has been nagging injuries that all these big time players that are carrying their team. We're never going to have seen them this. Rash in a playoff or championships situation, but with that said. It's not as easy for older players. Get their engines started again. You know we cut basketball off. Was It march eleven? Maybe right? When basketball was real, this was the funnest time to watch basketball host. All Star guys are getting Timothy Down there rhythm down telling back from injury where we're getting ready to head into the playoffs so to stop basketball then for nearly four months and now get going again. I just hope that everyone's able to stay healthy and provided absolutely every amenity hand for their bodies because this is going to be a fun. Run I a speaking because I. Hope it does happen. You know giving these guys you know possibly to training Camp Exhibition Games and And giving them a regular season games going into the playoffs. Hopefully, their bodies will be able to just that bad because you know unique. It's crazy you got. You gotta get back in shape, but they a month the month and a half after that you got to be playoff shaped. which is you know we're we're we're having to you know we're. We're creatures of habit especially. If you're an NBA player, you know that you know that it's a dead period around after Christmas as a dead period, you know that right after you know going into all star adviser kind of their on, and then you know that post all star going into who really turn ended on, you know. That all stopped and have to start over in the summer. It's GonNa. It's GonNa. Be a lot when I'm opening. These players can handle all that. I'm just hoping they're gonNA. Be Able to act link their bodies fast enough so that we can avoid injury as much as possible. Man Let me. Ask you this. Because this story came up a while back and I haven't talked to you in a while, so I wanted to ask you I saw the story that you still haven't. You haven't gotten your Golden State Warriors Ring or that. You don't want it maybe I'm wrong the way I interpreted that story. But what is the story behind that? So, what happened, the story got. Came up on the PODCASTS, 'cause another know who was talking about team was talking about earning ring, or whatever and I told him on the same page. I feel like nothing. My career I took. Millions upon millions last to play on better teams to win. And I felt like every team I played on that contributed to whether other starter or six percent off the bench I was always in the mix and going into this. Golden State my last season. It was no different. You know. Katie happened to go down I was leaving. Sacramento I went right in my first game, I played twenty five minutes, and I was consistent within their rotation but oddly enough a week before the the playoffs star. The first Katie comes back, I nearly had the worst ankle sprain of my my career like nearly break my ankle. My ankle never swell. The blew up like a bubble couldn't lose. Wasn't healthy until going into the western conference finals, and then you know being a veteran. I know that playoff is all about rotations in chemistry in and what's working right now you go with so I been out of the loop, and you know kind of play sparingly in a weird situation Steve, Kerr Without the Mike Brown's coaching other never really feel like I got a chance to really contribute in the playoffs, but that's what equity out there grinding with those guys so. I was a part of the team I. Just didn't feel like I earned that ring so I I got. Ceremony they had a ceremony for myself. My twins. I got the twins ring as well and I gotta a game so after I got the ring I had it locked up in a room because I didn't want to carry the big box around the whole time, and when I was ready believe they couldn't find the key. So I just hadn't gone. Go back around. The wasn't my I. Did one I didn't expect it I, just hadn't got a chance and now Raymond Ritter, who's the head tr guy there inside monkey more than that now, but he's a good friend of mine. And he just has the ring locked up in his office, and he said I get around to come into the new arena. I can grab it. Okay, Heard all kinds of things that I didn't want the rain. I didn't accept the ring then of that was true I just didn't. It was locked in a room when I left and I just haven't been back since okay Gotcha that clears it up. That makes all the sense in the world. Thank you so much clearing that up all right to a couple of quick ones on the way out rapid fire style stuff. We've just been debating all week. This is all food based okay, are you ready? I Best Fr- fast food fries are. McDonnell! Okay, thank you for saying that because we've been trying to argue with people people trying to say in and out still just announced fries. They're fresh doesn't mean they're good. In and out things like five lakh chopping. Being a little chuck. Thank you. What's up? Okay so the next thing? Are you a Mayo Guy? Usually. Not Heavy, but yeah. Okay all right, fair enough and our doughnuts overrated. No I loved. I wish I hated them. I Love Them. There is Matt Barnes. Check out the podcast all the smoke him and Steven Jackson. If you're not listening to it, you're doing yourself a disservice. It is one of the best things out there right now from an audio perspective makes you listen to check it out there doing a great job together Matt. Thanks for always taking the time. Man Appreciate you. Stay healthy. Stay safe. You and yours man thanks again. Thanks, to our good there. We'll same to you and your family I'm good. There is Matt Barnes this year.

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Mason and Ireland HR 1: Welcome Back!

Mason & Ireland

1:02:35 hr | 4 months ago

Mason and Ireland HR 1: Welcome Back!

"What is going on Mason Ireland? Reunited what is going on John? everything is going on I. Feel like the day we have the most to talk about since the coronavirus. It yeah I mean there are just monster stories today. And we will get to baseball, but we should start with Dwight Howard. Who is on a call with Kyrie Irving about one hundred other players over the weekend, and they are discussing the idea that by playing basketball right now. They will be distracting from the black lives matter movement from protesting police brutality, fighting racial justice and Dwight. Howard is is part of this. He says it would be a distraction in this moment, not the right thing to do. that. He's he would love to win his first championship, but the unity of my people would be an even bigger championship. I. CanNot. Understand this position. That that Kyrie Dwight Howard would take John. I do I but but here's the thing we've gotta talk about it. There's a lot of branches on the street. Yes, all right first of all. We have to separate the players that may not wanNA play because of covid nineteen versus the players like Korean. Dwight, that may not want to play because of black life matters and the protest movement. Those are completely different things, but we're all one hundred on the call. World Reserve Separate Call No, no, no, the there eighty nine eighty, some players on the call. Okay, they were just talking about whether or not too concerned to concerts right right right so these concerns they overlap a little, which makes this tricky like some people strongly feel that trade. mcgready was on the jump today, saying because of Covid, he wouldn't play. But because of the protest movement that makes it easy. He wouldn't play. I finally. When I look at it, and this is just my opinion I think they can do more for the protest movement if they do play, I think their platform magnify correct, but I wanNA. Be careful here when the protest movement started. When people started walking in the streets, I came on the air and I said the number. One thing that people need to do is we need to listen to each other and in particular. If you're white person, you need to have empathy. You need to try and put yourself in the other person's shoes. I mean at this point, aren't we? I mean I. Completely support the black lives matter movement right, but you just said you cannot understand. Where do White Howard and Kyrie or coming only only because they would be missing on? A gigantic platform I mean the entire world is going to be watching the NBA this year, and whether it is taking a knee during the national anthem or during your press availability. Making sure that you get your message across when you do that. Post game interview on the floor, and you have an opportunity to talk about the the social justice issues I mean you're giving up a gigantic platform and I understand the idea of of standing down, and not playing and I sympathize with that, but it's. It's missing the forest for the trees. I would much rather see guys like Dwight Howard and Kyrie to whatever degree? Take advantage of this enormous stage. That is going to exist. And this isn't just because I want to see. Dwight play for the Lakers and all that stuff you know. I support black lives matter here's an opportunity to be the center of the universe, and to be able to convey that message to the world. Why agree with you I? Share your position, but unlike you, I do understand what they're saying I. understand their point. I just disagree with it. I think that the what Kyrie and white and those guys are saying is if you provide and Dwight use the phrase any entertainment, but if you provide. Basketball Games and movies and shows and if you go back to. The entertainment. It distracts from the movement and I get that, but I think what helps here. In this is backing up what you were just saying, listen to Charles Barkley Charles. Barkley was on. Get up this morning. And Barclay makes the. That if they were not to play. I understand what Kyrie and Dwight are arguing. I I agree with you. I like the way you phrased it. I don't think they're seeing the forest for the trees or as Charles said. Out of sight out of mind, here's Barkley. Be Stupid is not play for two. Number one if they don't play. They're gonNA. Be Out of sight out of mind for the rest of the year. That won't be no camera following and you know, Art Lebron is probably the most famous athlete, and he states he won't be visible anywhere. So out of sight out of mind, also these guys got to realize this money going to come back, and they got to lose billions of dollars that the plants used go into their own communities and do some great stuff, so is not good on any front. I have no idea what career to wider talking about, but it'll be a catastrophic mistake not to play. So I watch coming from Charles Barkley. That makes sense to me. I Agree Charles, but I understand what Kyrie into wider. Put out there and Michelle Roberts the head of the union said Hey. They're just talking their. You know nobody's making demands. Nobody's. They're just giving opinions. As a matter of fact, a white McMenamin tracked down to whites agent and Dwight's agencies to white hasn't even ruled out not playing Dwight said he would prefer not to play in his statement to CNN, but that doesn't mean he's not GonNa play. They're talking it out. And? I think. Jackson says they're gonNA play Stephen. Jackson has been right in the middle of this from the beginning. and New, George Floyd here is what Steven Jackson said over the weekend about this idea that Kyrie and Dwight have that playing basketball would distract from the movement. were. Whatever. Man I I? LEARNED NBA man. I love a guy you know as well as my family, but now at the time fan basketball. Now at the time. Playing basketball is GONNA do one thing. Take all the attention. Of the task at hand right now what we find for everybody going to be worrying about the play, they will have all that plaster all over the TV and nobody's going to be talking about getting justice for all these. Senseless murders by this release and nobody's going to be focusing on the task at hand. None of these white owners have spoken up. None of them. None of them are taking the stand. Your they might pose the video when the seasons start saying what we should do not doing the plan. Basketball angled up, but make them money. And take the attention of what we find for what we marching for. Is bigger than all of us and his big as as big as bigger than a game, and I'm sad that we still got explained that the people are sad. So what I would argue about that is and I like Steven Jackson Lot. I've mentioned last week when you were gone. That I actually covered him in high school. I was in Beaumont Texas. He was in Port Arthur. which is the city neck? The next thing and he joined the NBA High School? And he was an unbelievable high school player but and he's A. He's a good dude, and he's funny and he's. He thinks people have seen the side of him now. He's very caring. I mean I have great respect for his opinions. But would say Stephen if I saw him. Again was the two things you're arguing are not mutually exclusive. You can still put. A priority on your movement. And play basketball as a matter of fact, I think playing basketball enhances it. Because again you would be on the biggest stage every single night. Yup, you mobilize your players. If you get all the NBA, guys who care about this and I think almost all of them do and you? You had a consistent message. Think of all the people that would be dialed into. Listen to it every night. Or Diane for Sports Yep, so I'M NOT GONNA kill career. Do I I think I? I've made a point of saying I'm GONNA listen to other people's opinions. Even trait may not agree with them. And in this case, I don't but. I would I would say I was on that call, and I I was like a top NBA. Player is guys. Let's! Let's see if we can get our cake and eat it, too. We can. We can get the money because and this is another angle. May You know again? This is complicated, but. If, they were not to play okay if they were to. Take the advice of Steven Jackson and Dwight and Kyrie and just say our movements to important basketball too big of a distraction. We're not GONNA play. There's a chance and if you Google and read up on this that there wouldn't be a season next season. The owners would then have the right to Redo the. and. That same reason we had a strike in two thousand eleven would would come back to the front burner, and think about all the millions and millions of players will lose if that happened yeah. So, not only Barkley said. Do you get the money? But you get the you get the. Platform Yup to to show people. What's important to you so I would say to Kyrian Dwight Hey look at it from a different angle if we. I'd like right now. We can't get to White Howard on the show. We asked from last week. And what we were told was everybody's GonNa. Wait until they resolve whether or not they're going into the bubble, and then then players will be ready to talk, but once they go down there people becoming form every day, and they would have really good chance spread there, so here's a great tweet from Robert Wilkins and this articulates the Kyrie Dwight position. Everyone is talking about how to make significant change society, including seven ten ESPN which ventured way off its normal programming when the Lakers play a playoff game. That's all you're going to be talking about. That's where Dwight is coming from. He's right, but. At the same time I mean during the game. We're going to be calling the game. But when the game is over and I think, the Lakers are GonNa win a lot of games. We're going to. Get access to a microphone right, and so all the other players. Yeah, and Lebron is one of the most thoughtful articulate famous people in the world, and nobody's done more for you know this movement then Lebron Lebron. He's got a school. He added a voting awareness program. I mean Lebron will be. He'll be all over this and and the next night it will be. You know Jaanus and the next night. It'll be James Harden and. It'll be somebody else and they can. Can you know they're going to have this giant stage? Here's another good way of putting it mace. What do white and career advocating? Is Not playing at all. Yeah Mohammed, Ali in order to get people to care about what he said. Had to fight I. Mean he had a box? John Carlos and Tommie Smith made such a huge impact because they won medals, and then they got on the medal stand. Yeah, yeah, and did their thing. They're black power salute. Yes, if they didn't if John Carlson Tommy Smith didn't win medals. If they never would have that platform yet, they wouldn't have the impact. Yeah, so you know that's that's what I would use as a comparison, I would say guys. Look, don't! Michael Wilbon just said on PTI. You never. Turned down a platform in this situation, and he cited guys like Arthur Ash, and Kareem abdul-jabbar and Muhammad Ali and he said what you do. Is You use your platform to further your cause and I think that's where the players are probably going to come down I'm pretty confident, and this is just my own personal feeling. I'm pretty confident. They're gonNA play you. One hundred percent hundred I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever. They're gonNA. Play me and I think Patrick Beverley. You know his tweet. Who per se that y'all want if king. James said he hoop. We all hoop and not personal only business hashtag. Stay woke mean in the end. Lebron James Wants to play. The biggest stars in the Game WanNa play so Jonah's and so Johnny Davis Yeah exactly exactly those guys WanNa play and I think at the end of the day. Those guys went up now. Talk about the Kyri angle here a little bit so Kendrick Perkins. was on Golick and Wingo today, and here's what he said about Kyrie. I'm talking about the timing of it. It just looks bad on a union, because guess what the owners are doing. The owners are sinbad laughing. Say All we can't wait to the next CBA. Because look at them. They're not together, which would not right now as a pleasant sociation, and then I read another statement that remain saying he's willing to give up all don't be. This time Willie doing. No more see. What will it see? Did it did it the way from the game of basketball and took his own time so cal? Be Talking Oh I'm willing to do it. No, if you make a stance, do it. Talk about and perk also said. Jump by the way Oh that was on the jump, okay? Kendrick Perkins this morning on. Golick Winco said what changed over the last nine or ten days. What changed was from what I strongly believe in what I heard. Is that the NBA and the players? Association told I. Read that. No, you can't go. No. You can't go in other words. It's been estimated that each organization is going to be able to bring about thirty five people into the bubble. Kyri has been told that because he's not playing. He can't go inside the bubble. He can't go with the rest of his team because he might be taken the place of a trainer. or a medical I or a game personnel person, so he's been told he can't go now. He has this conference call and it's possible that he's got sort of this alterior thing going on where he's pissed off that he's not allowed to go into the bubble. Made. That's what that's. What Perks San Yeah maybe. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that his motives are honest, but even if they are I disagree with his tactics. I think that what I hope, Kyrie, and Dwight and I'd like to. Do Delight I've argued should be. They don't do the comeback player. He would read a comeback player of the year. He wins down slammed on it. Yeah, and in full disclosure do white lost a one of the. He is the mother of one of his children passed away from Kovic. SO THAT'S IS A. We're losing you little bit, but yeah, this is a very very personal issue for for Dwight. All right coming up next for you. Ramona Shelburne is GONNA join us. She's on the inside of all this stuff. We will get to the baseball story, which is a big one rob Manfred, no longer certain that there will be a baseball season in twenty twenty Momo's next mason and Ireland seventeen ESPN, damn right I, come back with my best personality. Don't you think so far you get it? Yeah very exciting. Yeah, all right caution at makes I'm very passionate today there is lot going on, and I'm very passionate about it all and nothing. I tweeted MLB better. Not Break my heart today. It's the Game I love. This could be a hell of a dodger season. Owners and players better not burn down the house. But. There is definitely lighter fluid in a match right now. Okay, so here's why everybody's freaking out about baseball tonight on ESPN. Mike Greenberg is hosting. What was strangely labeled as a return to sports special about how we might return to sports. By, baseball can do this, but over the weekend the owners made a proposal to the players. The players rejected it and the players basically said look. You're not negotiating with us. You don't care about any of our proposals we are going to. Tell us when to show up and we'll. Have a scheduled. Just give us a schedule. We'll be there and by the way we planned to sue you for not negotiating with us. And Rob Manfred in the owners didn't take kindly to the threat of lawsuit and the we've we've got. A piece of the interview that's going to air tonight on the return to sports special and Manford does not sound confident. That will have season at all. Here's Mike Greenberg with rob Manfred well I know, the owners are one hundred percent committed to getting baseball back on the field. Unfortunately I can't tell you. That I'm one hundred percent certain. That's GonNa Happen. I had been hopeful that once we got to common ground on the idea that. We were going to pay the players full prorated salary that we would get some cooperation in terms of proceeding under the agreement that we negotiated with the MVP A on March twenty sixth unfortunately over the weekend. While Tony Clark was declaring his desire to get back to work the unions, top lawyer was out telling reporters, players, and eventually getting back to owners that as soon as we issued a schedule as they requested, they intended to file a grievance claiming there were entitled to an additional billion dollars, obviously that sort of bad faith tactic makes it extremely difficult to move forward in these circumstances, what are your concerns for the optics of this circumstance playing out as publicly as they are during the time in this country where all the other things, the confluence of events, involving the pandemic and protests in the streets and everything else of this playing out is publicly as it is. It's just a disaster for our game. absolutely no question about it. It shouldn't be happening. And it's important that we find a way to get past it and get the game back on the field for the benefit of our fans. Would you describe your feelings as confident that they will still be a season? And think that's where he says No. I'M NOT CONFIDENT Going to fill in the blank. Yeah, no, I'm not. Only, what he you say! It ended it a really weird. Competent. That's on US yeah. No he he, he did answer the question, he said No. I'm not confident. Now John I love baseball, and you know this. This is my know. I live for the dodgers it is. It is my team. I've been all those playoff games on their favorite go to the world series this year by a wit we are, we are absolutely stacked and loaded. If baseball screws this up. If somehow. They can't reach some sort of agreement and play at a minimum forty eight games. It is rob Manfred said a disaster, and I'm sorry. It's UNWRAP Manfred. It's his job to work this stuff out. There's forty eight games everybody's fine with forty eight games now. Players said forty-eight Games prorated salary. There's gotta be a way to resolve this in an amicable way so that we get a baseball season even if it's just a mini baseball season. Alright so two things about what you just said. Number One. Rob Manfred works for the owners I it's not like. Rob Personally doesn't want to cut a deal he is he is. He has marching orders. That's number. One number. Two Am really interested to hear what you have to say about this Jeff Passan. was on after they aired. Thou God non Fortson. The voice, can I call you back? I actually have to grab this. Jeff. Fasten. And he says he thinks this possibly could be posturing for Manfred that they're still negotiating and the press. Stupid. Little Guineas stop negotiating in public. Stop already you're making you're making it worse. At this point you go on the. We're returning from sports special on ESPN and say we might not be. We're turning. The optics are absolutely awful. There is a pandemic going on. People have been sheltering in place for a long time. We're slowly reopening. The black lives matter movement in black lives. Matter Movement is is everywhere now. People are in the streets in protest for racial justice. This is a great opportunity for baseball. To to show its strength and its importance in the fabric of the country, and they are absolutely blowing it and they're gonNA break my heart. Well first of all they haven't done it yet. I still think there's a possibility that they play. But? It sure seems like the owners have done something almost impossible. They! I. Don't know anyone and I'm curious if you do because you know a lot of baseball fans probably more than I do. Normally in these situations, and if you go back and pull tape from the Mason in Ireland show, you will find days some days where we blame the players some days where we blame the owners lately, we've really been blaming the owners, but there were days when the beginning where we said if these two. Millionaires Villiers CA. I don't know anyone now. Who isn't blaming the owners? Everybody is siding with the players, and I think it's because a social media because the players'll trevor Bauer. Go read all his tweets today. Sure he's basically explaining exactly what this is. And how the? Y The owners have have put it this way. If you even read the tweets of former baseball players, they'll explain to you. Just. The owners have now alienated everybody I. Don't Know Anybody. I don't know any normally when you and I over the years have debated work stoppages and think of all the just we've had in twenty pictures. We can do in this. I normally tend to go with the business owner. You normally tend to go with the worker yet. Were you and I are lockstep that the owners are wrong? Yeah, no, we absolutely are and one of the weird deals that is going on one of the weird sort of breaking points here is the players want the ability to sue the owners? If there is a Kovin nineteen outbreak. They get sick and if they get disabled for any period of time, because of this and the owners are not willing to extend them. That waiver. Now. Should players have recourse against the owners? If they get sick, well I wanna be careful answer this one because the NBA handled this the right way, they said look. If you're a player who is has concerns about covert, or if you have a pre existing condition. And you don't want to go. Into the Orlando campus. You're not required to go, and you'll still receive your salary baseball players. The deal is if they don't go. They don't get paid, but what you're pointing out is what if you do go? And, you get co Vid. And you get sick now. Here's what I why I think they. Shouldn't necessarily sign. The waiver is what if it does cost to your career right? If you get sick and in in that, we're instance and his lungs, and some long term lasting impact from it. Yeah, then then, how are you going to be compensated? So I think there's gotTa. Be a way to negotiate that rather than just say no. You can't sue US now. The overwhelming this I'm going to kind of steer the conversation different direction here. I know we got Ramona coming up, but You know. Cova is overwhelmingly turning out to be. The people that are dying from it are almost exclusively older. There's a Wall Street Journal article today that that does a good job of laying all this out that your chances of dying from Covid, if you're under the age of sixty or about the same as you, your chances of dying in a car accident, but that doesn't mean Mace that. You can't get it. Get Sick and lose your income and I would think those people need to find a way to get protected so I would hesitate. To I don't think the players should give that right, but I would. I would be anxious to learn more about it. What do you think about that specific issue? Well I mean without question. If you have an underlying condition, if you're a senior, you're much more likely to get sick and potentially die from this. And the the wall. Street Journal piece I've seen but. No, reason to doubt the results and the reporting there. However, there are instances. you know I had a friend who? had a Kobe related stroke. Who's who wasn't sixty years younger than sixty was? Who was my age? You know that's one of the potential. Outcomes of having covid. If you're a younger person right, so let's use that as an example, if if a if a baseball player unlikely, but if it happened to a baseball player, he should have some recourse to receive compensation. It shouldn't just be nope too bad. You got, and you can't play anymore right? Yeah, so they need to negotiate that it shouldn't be a black and white thing. There should be circumstances all right coming up next. Next forty moment's GonNa join us. He's probably got some baseball stuff, but we're going to talk to her. About the White House wrote it. She's listening article about this whole Kyri Dwight situation, and with the latest on that is so she'll have a lot on that Yup Mason Ireland Seventeen Espn Damn right. I come back with my best personality. Don't you think so far? You get it you yes, very exciting. Yeah, all right. You know passionately. Very passionate today there is a lot going on very passionate about it all and nothing. I just tweeted. MLB, better not break my heart today. It's the Game I love. This could be a hell of a dodger season. Owners and players better not burn down the house. But there is definitely lighter fluid in a match right now. Okay, so here's why everybody's freaking out about baseball tonight on ESPN. Mike Greenberg is hosting. What was strangely labeled as a return to sports special about how we might return to sports. By baseball could do this yet. But over the weekend the owners made a proposal to the players. The players rejected it and the players basically said look. You're not negotiating with us. You don't care about any of our proposals we are going to. Just tell us when to show up and we'll. Have a scheduled. Just give schedule will be there and by the way we planned to sue you for not negotiating with. US Yeah. And Rob Manfred in the owners didn't take kindly to the threat of a lawsuit and. We've we've got. A piece of the interview that's going to air tonight on the return to sports, special and man for does not sound confident that we'll have a season at all. Here's Mike Greenberg with rob Manfred well I, know the owners are one hundred percent committed to getting baseball back on the field. Unfortunately I can't tell you. That I'm one hundred percent certain, that's going to happen. I had been hopeful that once we got to common ground on the idea that we were going to pay the players full prorated salary that we would get some cooperation in terms of proceeding under the agreement that we negotiated with the MLB PA on March Twenty six, unfortunately over the weekend while Tony, Clark was declaring desire to get back to work the unions. Top lawyer was out telling reporters, players, and eventually getting back to owners that as soon as we issued a. A schedule as they requested, they intended to file a grievance claiming they were entitled to an additional billion dollars. Obviously that sort of bad faith tactic makes it extremely difficult to move forward in these circumstances, what are your concerns for the optics of this circumstance playing out as publicly as they are during the time in this country were all the other things, the confluence of events, involving the pandemic protest in the streets and everything else of this playing out his publicly as it is. It's just a disaster for our game. absolutely no question about it. It shouldn't be happening and it's important that we find a way to get past it and get the game back on the field for the benefit of our fans. Would you describe your feelings as confident that they will still be a season? And I think that's where he says no I'm not confident. Going to fill in the blank, yeah, I'm not. Only what do you say? It ended it a really weird by. That's us. On No, he he, he didn't answer the question, he said No. I'm not confident. Now John You know I love baseball, and you know this. This is my and you know I live for the dodgers it is, it is my team been all those playoff games on their favorite go to the world series this year by a wit we are, we are absolutely stacked and loaded. If baseball screws this up. If somehow. They can't reach some sort of agreement and play at a minimum forty eight games. It is and rob Manfred, said a disaster and I'm sorry it's unreal, Manfred, it's his job to work this stuff out. There's forty eight games everybody's fine with forty eight games now. Player said Forty Games prorated salary. There's gotta be a way to resolve this in an amicable way so that we get a baseball season even if it's just a many baseball season. Alright so two things about what you just said, number one. Rob Manfred works for the owners. It's not like rob personally doesn't wanNA cut a deal. He is he is. He has marching orders. That's number one number two. I'm really interested to hear what you have to say about. This Jeff Passan. was on after they aired. Non. The voice can I call you back I actually have to grab this. Partnership fasten. And he says he thinks this possibly could be posturing for Manfred still negotiating in the press, which was stupid from the guineas. Stop negotiating in public. Stop already you're making. You're making it worse. At this point you go on the. We're returning from sports special on ESPN and say we might not be. We're turning. The optics are absolutely awful. There is a pandemic going on. People have been sheltering in place for a long time. We're slowly reopening. the black lives matter movement it black lives matter. Movement is everywhere now. People are in the streets in protest for racial justice. This is a great opportunity for baseball. To to show its strength and its importance in the fabric of the country, and they are absolutely blow in it and they're gonNA. Break my heart. Well first of all. They haven't done it yet. I still think there's a possibility that they play. But. It sure seems like the owners have done something almost impossible. They. I don't know anyone and I'm curious if you do because you know a lot of baseball, fans, probably more than I do, yeah. Normally in these situations, and if you go back and pull tape from the Mason in Ireland, show, you will find days some days where we blame the players some days where we blame the owners lately, we've really been blaming the owners, but there were days when the beginning where we said if these two. Millionaires Villiers. I don't know anyone now. Who isn't blaming the owners? Everybody is siding with the players, and I think it's because a social media because the players like Trevor Bauer go read all his tweets today. Sure he's basically explaining exactly what this is. How the you know why the owners have have put it this way, and if you even read the tweets of former baseball players, they'll explain to you. Just the owners have now alienated. Everybody I, don't know, anybody. When you and I over the years have debated work stoppages and think of all the workshops we've had in twenty years. We've been doing this I'm normally tend to go with the business owner. You normally tend to go with the worker, Yup word you and I are lockstep that the wrong. Yeah, no, we absolutely are one of the weird deals that is going on one of the weird sort of breaking points here is the players want the ability to sue the owners? If there is a Kovin nineteen outbreak if they get sick, and if they get disabled for any period of time, because of this and the owners are not willing to extend them. That waiver. Now, should players have recourse against the owners? If they get sick well, I wanna be careful to answer this one. Because the NBA handled this the right way, they said look. If you're a player who is has concerns about covert, or if you have a pre existing condition. And you don't want to go. Into the Orlando campus. You're not required to go, and you'll still receive your salary baseball players. The deal is if they don't go. They don't get paid, but what you're pointing out is what if you do go? And you get coverted. And you get sick now. Here's what I. Why I think they shouldn't necessarily sign. The waiver is what if it does cost you your career right? If you get sick and in in that rare instance enters lungs, and some long term lasting impact from it. Yeah, then then. How are you going to be compensated, so I think there's got to be awaited. Negotiate that rather than just say no. You can't sue US now. The overwhelming this I'm going to steer the conversation different direction here I know. We got RAMONA COMING UP, but Cove is overwhelmingly turning out to be. On the people that are dying from, it are almost exclusively older. There's a wall. Street Journal Article Today that that does a good job of laying all this out that your chances of dying from Covid, if you're under the age of sixty or about the same as you, your chances of dying in a car accident, but that doesn't mean Mace that. You can't get it. Get Sick and lose your income and I would think those people need to find a way to get protected so I would hesitate to I. Don't think the players should give up that right, but I would I would be anxious to learn more about it. What do you think about that specific issue? Without question, you have an underlying condition. If you're a senior, you're much more likely to get sick and potentially die from this and the The Wall Street Journal piece I been seen, but have no reason to doubt the results and the reporting there. However there are instances. You know I had a friend who? had a Kobe related stroke. Who's who wasn't sixty? Right you. Sixty was who is my age. You know that's one of the potential. Outcomes of having Cova if you're a younger person right, so let's use that as an example if if a base if that happened to a baseball player unlikely, but if it happened to a baseball player, he should have some recourse to receive compensation. It shouldn't just be nope too bad. You Got Kobe to end. You can't play anymore right? Yeah, so they need to negotiate that it shouldn't. Shouldn't be a black and white thing. There should be circumstances all right coming up next for your going. GonNa. Join us. She got some baseball stuff, but we're going to talk to her about the White House. He wrote it. She's listed in article about this whole Kyrie. Dwight situation and with the latest on that is so she'll have a lot on that Yep Mason Ireland seventeen espn. So much going on to the by the way vacation was fantastic. Thank you for asking John. No I'm glad you inspired me I'm going on. I'm going to go on vacation bender now I've really. Where are you going to go I've decided that you've had it right I've had it all wrong I'm taking the last week of this month off. I think I'M GONNA. Take a week next month, and if I don't go to Orlando. I may take a week if they don't play basketball I may take August, but I think they're going to play basketball so. For you, where are you going to go? Pebble beach is the next one. Wow, so you've been right, OH, yeah! Are you taking leasers? This guy's. Golf trip golf. Trip Yep Nice that's coming up. Relieved she's happy. She's GonNa have the whole place. Yourself I had a great I was. We just took a house in Palm. Springs and did nothing but swing so can watch sopranos. On, now Season Four Season Four. Good Yeah. You're getting into the thick of it now. Yeah, exactly. It's getting really good aright so. Ramona's going to join us here in a second. Moma has been reporting on this Dwight Howard story if you missed this. Dwight Howard was on a call with Kyrie Irving and about eighty or so other players over the weekend, and there's a sentiment that. Playing basketball right now, they would be distracting from the black lives. Matter. Black lives matter movement protesting police brutality fighting for racial justice. So Mace, one angle of that that I find a little surprising. Is You and I both agree that they should use the platform play. And then state their case. I don't know of it unlike the NFL. I don't know anybody in the NBA. who has tried to squash any type of? Of opinion or attitude like if if these guys decided to take a knee I, actually think. The NBA would not only be okay with it. They'd be supportive of it. Absolutely there would. Shocked by the way when Games are played, if if players don't take a knee. will remember the thing that's tricky. Is. And I know this because I do the Games and as soon as they go to the anthem. We go to a break. So they're not on TV when the actual anthem is being played until you get to the finals. They carry the anthem in the finals, but they don't. Carry. It's not televised in entry in a normal game. They may have to come. It would have to be in. Like the jump ball. They'd have to come up with something Rhino Right, but but they will and. And I think the NBA will be nothing but supportive. Yeah and now Ramona joins US and Mamo you and wo de. Article kind of outlining this crazy NBA weekend. I've been careful today to say. I'M NOT GONNA kill Kyrie or white. Howard I think if they feel that way, they should express their opinion, but my sense is that they're in the minority, are they? Oh Yeah. I think there are. I think or maybe a few dozen player who agree with them about not wanting to start the season I talked to a player. Guys that I think this is. This is a really important thing to get across. Okay, because I literally Friday night for an hour and a half I was on the phone with player who was on the call? So this is now two hours. You know they call. It was almost two hours on the phone with me for almost two hours and and I. I think you know Tom. What's going on? What is this? Why? What's the what? How is he leading this? Why did you go to Cairo like do agree with him with leading you. Were you eating him? And if you know I actually, don't? I'm not in favor of playing again. does based off of what I hear. 'cause he displayed on the bubble's GONNA work. He doesn't think it's thinks it's too restrictive, and it's it's you know it's going to be too hard for players to. To to to be in this bubble environment to six seven weeks with no socializing. No, it doesn't. It doesn't need to be like this. They can just do the sights, etc. He also feels like the communication between the League players Union. And the an individual players has not been right. He had get issues with the process of the whole thing. He felt like a small group of players who were part of the executive committee where negotiating this for everyone and they weren't in the details. Details weren't shared widely enough or fast enough. All of those things are totally valid concerns. And he went to Kyrie Irving. Who is by the way and a players association vice president and express that and I said you know. Why did you go, tyree? Why? Why? Why was he the person you reached out to? And the player said well look you know Kyrie I. You know you tell them you're. You're looking at an apple and he's like. Are you sure snapple? Maybe it's an orange. He's he's the of guy who would listen to us right. If not too late to bring up these questions, it's not to bring up these concerns and I like we were talking about the other day John I. There's a list of three or four could major concerns that players have in all different orders right so some players I'm mostly concerned with social justice, and not distracting from the movement and the moment. Some players are more concerned with you. Know the bubble environment. It's too restrictive. Some people think it's not restrictive announced because. Disney workers and some media could come in and out a little bit without the same level of quarantining that players are doing there's. Some. People just simply don't like this setup. They think should be home. Practice sites all together, and like you have a whole list of things that that people are concerned about the free agents concerned about risking their their next contract by playing in this especially after such a long way up. And KYRIE IRVING! If you know you might call him. You know his history and the League has sort of been divisive force like no, he's also somebody who's not afraid to speak truth to power or these advocate for something, different and advocate for an alternate viewpoint. I think that's a lot of these calls have been about which is hey, let's let's talk to. was make sure that everybody really feels heard. Because if you have process questions, you've processed issues like let's let's get this out here and look everybody unified. So, is there anything to this Kendrick? Perkins theory? He added on Golic and Wingo today that Kyrie is upset that he's been told he can't go into the bubble with his teammates. I don't have direct knowledge of that. So that would be perks. Theory, although perks news pretty good that stuff he's A. He's a teammate of Kyri right. It was their them in Cleveland, so I think he knows them well enough to to have an opinion we also talk a lot of people in the League, so I'm not going to discount as opinion I. I I wonder if I think a lot of it is This is very on brand, Cairo to go against the grain and that's kind of his reputation as kind of who he is, and in a lot of and I, I guess if I'm somebody in charge of this if I'm. Adam Silver Michelle Roberts I think the right posture towards it is to say good. We welcome to challenge us as much as you want. Because we should all be feeling good about this moon forward Michelle. Feel good. We should be able to defend these plans and defend our process. That should be something you welcomed but and I don't think is derailing anything they. They've already voted Kyrie voted. He was one of the twenty eighth team Reps. that was part of this part of this folks, so unless there's GonNa be a an organized, you know change or or Let's let's put put you pump the brakes. Let's stop this I saw the latest story from Whoa Melita. There's a big. There's very long and passion statement in that in that come trying to. To outline what players are feeling and talking about You know I talked to Michelle Roberts yesterday based like She said you know she doesn't want to tell players what to do and I think Lebron James and the same camp. They don't want to help you or what to do. Because it's really isn't individual decision but they do feel like at some point and training camp is literally supposed to open next week. They do need to have a unified front they need. They need to settle on it, so I think in the next few days. Really gotta sit tight and see what happens because. Right now my sense is about thirty or forty players who feel this way and thirty or forty out of a list of three hundred fifty so I don't think that's enough to really turn things around and change things up but nobody wants to help those thirty or forty players. Hey them down because they have a right to their opinion and they. They don't feel comfortable buying them. They shouldn't play. Ramona, Shelburne is joining us and she's been all over this NBA story over the weekend that they had a call on Friday night led by Kyrie Irving where they discussed maybe not playing. It doesn't look like that's going to be the end result, but reminding you said something that you said you were talking to a player in one of the questions is why. Why aren't we just playing at home sites? And that's actually a legitimate question that he brought up now baseball. If they come back, Paul reports are the. They're going to play in their own stadiums. Football is playing in their own stadium. Yeah, the NBA is not is, is that basically safety regarding the pandemic, or is there more to it than that? So it's a safety and John I remember maybe I. Don't I feel like I have no concept of time anymore, but remember one high when I called in and I said Guys I. Don't know about this bubble thing. I mean I, just you know I. I'm turned around on it because I talked to Michelle Roberts. She gave me his. Clothes were like you know. The players don't want to feel like they're in jail. Don't want to be monitored with ankle bracelets and feel like they're being surveilled. And then pretty quickly we moved off in that position and I thought we went from. We're probably going to be a team. Practice facilities to Oh. We're back to the bubble. How did that turn around and I? It was it was an interesting pivot because it happened right after Adam silver had the call with all the players, and he explained like this. It really would be safer to be at the one facility, and here's what it would feel like. It'd be more campus where you can go. Play Golf and you can go to the water park in. It's not gonNA. Be Like you know. There's armed guards at the gates and keeping you in well. We might be kinda turning back around on that so where we initially start off with which is like. Why are we doing seven weeks where you can't see your families and all that and and and you know Zach Lowe pointed out something in his column the other day and I thought it was a really good point like the optics of majority African American League being put into a quarantine place by anarchy. White, ownership group DOFFING. Optics right now. You know not the greatest. The greatest feel and I think it's it's it's. Weird when you think about it that way. Yeah, you know like it's weird when you think about it that way this moment with with you know the process of the black lives matter movement, as at this. Space is moment in time that has really been galvanize a very powerful right now, sitting differently with people and I think that's what. Everybody kind of has to wrap their heads around that these things changed. Over time doesn't stand still and so something that feels right a month ago when I think the NBA was mostly concerned with health and safety, and and also knowing that as one of the first leaks to come back, they're going to be faced with the highest level of scrutiny and just think like every plan NBA puts out you know that. that it's going to be scrutinized like there's going to be five to ten articles written in major national publications where they go, call up epidemiology epidemiologists and public health experts and say hey. What do you think of NBA's plan to return? You think it's safe and you have to build passed that test. Not just. Well I mean insurnace Momo. We've we've Anthony, thought she actually saying he thinks the NBA plan is to work. Yeah good plan. If everybody's okay being, we can find that long with friends and family. You know and I think that's a long time you know to play talking, said you know I guess. I'll be okay. All play video games and I'll go back to my room and I'll hang out and rats and everything that'd be a good opportunity to Kinda fill focus on basketball, but that's a pretty big sacrifice, and especially for young men you're used to being out and about, and and you know I don't know if I could do it. I mean that's like right now I'm I'm home with my son and my husband and I my parents every every day. It's like we have. We have a little fourteen group of five. Gosh I have five I mean thank God, 'cause. You know I it this. This is hard people mentally so. Nothing your family for like seven weeks, and just being facetime and. It's really hard. Okay, Hey, last last thing last thing. Is Dwight Howard Intractable in this position. Is he likely to follow through, and not play, or is he ultimately going to join the Lakers assuming the the league goes on as is stated. I I, think you should ask another question I. think gets the White Howard and Avery Bradley anything. Bradley is been more out front. I mean he's. He's certainly a much more organizer of these of these calls right now, to starters. That's big deal. Power doesn't start, but he's in the row tablet. To to pretty key rotation players right. So yes big. That's big issue for the Lakers, but I I think what I have heard, and and and I think you would agree the same thing what you say by yourself and out loud is probably the truest you feel, and the question is. Does he feel as strongly when he gets back into the group tax? when you're with your teammates, and not just a question of what you yourself want to do. But how does that affect your team and I know how close white is with the team? I know what this group is meant end this year, so I I don't know if he's intractable. My sense is You know if they're if the season resumes. I wouldn't be surprised if dwight played and I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't but I I would lean towards him playing just because he he really is close with this team. And you know if they could find a way to make the means something where it it it as Michelle Roberts said it enhances it enhances the moment and the movement, and not distract from it I think that that would satisfy a lot of players, but We'll see I. Mean I. I I usually have pretty good. Predicting things I I'm not sure how this was gonna go I really. over the next couple of days I was going to be real interesting We got this week and then training camp split. Open Yeah Yeah Okay Hey. Listen Mobile. Thank you very much sound good. Yeah, no I'm relaxed. Relaxed, recharge some ready to go get ready for the home stretch getting ready for some sports. Maybe even some baseball and baseball's going to break my heart. Inside they're gonNA play by the way we'll get to this next. The players have responded. Okay, good, Rob Mansa interview, okay, good nothing like good, old, ugly Labor during a pandemic. Yeah all right. Thank you. By the way we're also GONNA. Do something called birthday of the day brand? New Birthday of the day is coming up next to Mason Ireland seven ten ESPN I. UH Seventeen Espn Mason in Ireland. We were starting a new thing here a new tradition. It's called birthday of the day we look at the celebrity birthdays for the day and decide which one is. Is the official birthday of the day we will cast a vote and decide who gets Earth Day now. Partially, this game was invented because Mason one time through a birthday party, which he said was for him Amanda, and my wife Lisa, who all burke, as in the same week in Marsh, and then he walked out with a giant cake of his face on. So. The cake said Happy Birthday to me. Yeah, so we've decided that really if you're being honest, if a bunch of famous people are all born on the same day that it's really just. There's only room for one person's face cake, okay? Who Does the day belonged to? That's what we're getting at here. Okay, so let's go through the birthday. First of all our friend O'Shea Jackson Juniors Dad. I'm sure he would. He would hate being referred to as Oj. Jackson Juniors Dad. Well, being say really no, yeah, he's the original. O'Shea Jackson correct. Yeah, so ice cube turns fifty one today. Friends, which is now on HBO, Max which means nobody will see it ever again. Well. That's okay because it's been running on TBS for Nine Years Twenty Times a day. Courtney Cox is fifty six today. She was my second least favorite friend. I used to argue that I would I was according to Cox Fan in your Jennifer Aniston Fan. You KINDA won the war. Battle at the time, but Jennifer, Aniston still killing it. Neil Patrick Harris who is. A talented, Mega Megatonne, unbelievable and a gay trailblazer. He's forty seven and then Lear Emmy. So those some just shoot me. A no no. Shoot me what that was all about all about Kevin? What was her show? Queen King a King of Queens. All about probably made famous from saved by the bell though. Really she keeps came in late to save stacey. Yes. So. This is this is tough it. Neil Patrick. Harris has been famous since he was Doogie Howser. Yup Doogie, howser. That's is your. Doctor Ice Cube is a is a four tool player, which is very hard to find the thing is, you can be in movies he can write. He Runs I. Just saw him in high note that. Daughter Yeah which which I would. I got dragged into watching that movie and I really liked it. Year last week. School. Lean remedy. Out because of the scientology stuff so I think it's a three four serve. What do you mean out because the sign out too weird? I knew. She was she tried to save people from scientology. That's true. She broke away. Yeah. To me. I'm going to be the only one that picks this person, yeah. I've had a crush on Courtney Cox and she was in Springsteen's dancing in the dark video. I can't be anyone according cox for me I mean loved her in that loved her on family ties loved her in friends. Although technically ice keeps the biggest name on this day, but what is the biggest name? I am going to go with Neil Patrick Harris because I wonder why. Yeah he's. He's on my team. He's A. He's a great guy. Had a chance to interview him. He Super Nice Guy. Unbelievably talented talk about a four to a player right there, saying dances. What are the four tool sings dances? Asks well, what is what is the? What's The got? Ami Rambling. Oscar Tony so he's got a Tony. Yeah Cube Cube. Can the I mean? He's that guy. He's that talented, and then Leah remedies saving people from Scientology I'll go. Neil Patrick Harris a lazy what he got. I'm going to have to agree with John and go with Courtney Cox because. Yeah because a the you know the springsteen video that's like legendary and be friends I. Mean Friends Shape. A lot of people's childhood slash early early adult lives. Are. She's well known. I think I'M GONNA. Roy Ice Cube I love his music and his movies. You got to roll him today so by Default Courtney Cox is birthday of the day birthday today Courtney Cox. Who would have thought? Congrats, congratulations was scared to thickly a remedy because they're afraid, they'll get dragged into a cult. I do not I could tell you some some haunting stories about that, but I'm not going to. Try and did somebody try and recruit you. Yeah I don't need that in my life. Happen. Where did you did you go down the road? Did you go meeting? Never went to the road. You go to church you. You and I have been to the church. been to the Church Yup when we took a group of a Hurricane Katrina displaced all these people. And didn't we isn't that where we're where we are. Buses met because we need a parking lot. Hundred listeners to a dodger game I, we gotta get Outta here before they try and recruit us. Yeah, yeah, no I was invited to. To walk down the road and I said I. was invited to walk down the road. Who and found interesting just didn't do it. Jerry Seinfeld really yeah came out this week. Interesting. Before, before we get is have the hour. They players have responded. To. What the owners well first of all played fudge rob Manfred. It's going to be in a special tonight. Strangely it's a special about sports returning and he talks about in an interview with Mike Greenberg. HOW BASEBALL MIGHT NOT RETURN? He was asked by Greenburg. What's the latest on a potential baseball season and here's what rob Manfred. Set Your told call ravitch here on ESPN last week that you felt one hundred percent certain. They'll be season this year. How do you feel today? Well! I know the owners are one hundred percent committed to getting baseball back on the field Unfortunately. I can't tell you that I'm one hundred percent certain. That's going to happen. I had been hopeful that once. We got to common ground on the idea that. We were going to pay the players full prorated salary that we would get some cooperation in terms of proceeding under the agreement that we negotiated with the MVP on March twenty sixth, unfortunately over the weekend. While Tony Clark was declaring his desire to get back to work the unions top lawyer was out telling reporters, players, and eventually getting back owners that as soon as we issued a schedule as they requested, they intended to file a grievance claiming there were entitled to an additional billion dollars, obviously that sort of bad faith tactic makes it extremely difficult to move forward in these circumstances. What are your concerns for the optics of this circumstance playing out as publicly as they are during the time in this country, we're all the other things that confluence of events involving the pandemic and protests in the streets and everything else of this playing out is publicly as. It's just a disaster for our game. Absolutely no question about it. It shouldn't be happening. and. It's important that we find a way to get past it and get the game back on the field for the benefit of our fans. Would you describe your feelings confident that they will still be season? I'm not confident. Mike I I think there's real risk and as long as there's no dialogue that real risk is going to continue. So Mesa after that came out after that aired on sportscenter. Tony Clark, who is the Executive Director of the Major League Baseball Players Association issued this statement. Players are disgusted that after rob. Manford unequivocally told players and fans there would one hundred percent season. He's decided to go back on. His word is now threatening to cancel the entire season. Any implication that the players have somehow delayed progress on health and safety protocols is completely false, and as Rob Rob's recently acknowledged. The parties are very very close. This latest threat is one more indication that MLB has been negotiating in bad faith since the beginning, this has always been about extracting additional pay cuts from players, and this is just another day and another bad faith tactic. Ongoing campaign, this is just there. They are breaking my heart today I will react to that plus the Dwight Howard story coming up and let's take some calls. Yeah, seven, seven, seven, ten, ESPN, eight, seven, seven, seven, ten, three, seven, seven, six, third a lot. If you guys in this whole first, our will react to it all coming up next on Ireland seventeen ESPN.

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