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#30 The Marshes

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#30 The Marshes

"This episode of heavyweight is brought to you by Bonobos suck up on suits sweaters and more by going to Bonobos DOT com. That's LET'S BE O. N. O. B. O. S. DOT COM or drop by a guy job location near you. Enter Promo Code heavyweight at checkout to get fifteen percent went off your first purchase. That's Promo Code heavyweight for fifteen percent off at B. O. N. O. B. O. S. DOT COM As a doctor would you you write me a reference letter for medical school. I would write a reference letter. Yeah we'll what would it say in it. It would necessarily be favorable Jonathan. I'm sure a little little bit favorable. Here let me get you started okay to whom it may concern it. Go ahead go ahead John. Let you Jackie you. It'd be terrible doctor. The worst ever don't listen and you just keep going on and on you'd be doing all the talking give it a doctor has to ask questions. Wants to find out the symptoms. Actually listen to the answer because you don't listen. Ud arguing with patients talking about yourself thinking about something. Now Alex just like one of my tweets Eh from Gimblett media. I'm Jonathan Goldstein. And this is heavyweight. Today's episode the marshes. And I I met Steve Marsh at my brother-in-law's wedding. In conversation that night Steve was given to making soulful observations punctuated actuated by the word man. Steve is a big Guy shaggy-haired and comfortable in his own skin he's a little like the dude no matter where he is Sir what the occasion he gives off. The impression of wearing a comfy bathrobe flung open wide to the world. It's perhaps also worth mentioning the wall. Steve wasn't invited to the wedding per se. All the guests were both happy and unsurprised to see him. Of course Steve would be there and his entrance. I felt like a lovable. Saint Bernard had just wandered into the reception hall. Would you send a wedding invitation to a Saint Bernard of course not who would you be darn pleased to see one show up. Absolutely the next time Stephen I crossed paths was at another wedding. Well everyone was inside drinking and eating. I found Steve outside standing by the Hudson River looking preoccupied MHM. It was their smoking from his pack of Menthols that Steve told me about his mom and a secret she'd been carrying around in shame for almost forty forty years. Steve said the only reason he even knew about it because it had slipped out by accident and now that it had he didn't know what to do about it so after the wedding we set aside some time to talk house. Fatherhood gone man. It's great it's really great before getting into if Stephen I catch up the former. He's just got engaged. And because he steve. Your proposal he made was an elaborate production involving a ring baked into a cake AAC entire restaurant if people cheering his fiancee. Crying makes regular guys like me look real bad I know man. Her brothers are pissed at me into the great job. Dude with the pleasantries out of the way we get to the unpleasant tree. His mom secret. Steve says he first learned of it. In two thousand and eight on the fourth of July I was riding my bike and my phone was going off like nonstop and and I thought it was like a girl or drug dealer. It was late. You know it was like two in the morning so finally I pulled my bike over and I saw my sister. My a sister had called like fifteen sixteen times. You Know Steve. Sister Megan Marsh was up at the family sprawling trailer lot in rural Minnesota. A A place. They call marshland on summer holiday weekends. It's tradition for the entire Marsh clan to head to marsh land to drink. Hang out and just be the marshes. Sing the calls for Megan. Steve worried there was trouble marshland so called and I was like what's going on and she was. Aw Hysterical Steve If you if you need a wait hold on on trying to get all this out crying and this is Steve Sister. Megan between violent sobs. Saab's she explained to Steve What had happened up. At Marshlands Steve's parents had gone to bed but Megan continue to hang out with a handful of people around the bonfire fire. There's five seven about sitting around the fire and we started talking about we abort so to keep up her end of the conversation. Megan tells the group anecdote about her. Mom How a Ouija board had accurately predicted the main facts of her mom's life. It had prophesized sized future husbands initials PM for Pete Marsh as well as the amount of kids or mom would have three and my office sitting and all three feet away from me and my aunt said well she had four kids And initially I'm confused. You know I've been drinking a little bit so it slowly coming into my brain. What's happening look down at my fingers and Conan Stephen Me Kevin what what are you talking about and then I look up round on the fire? Everybody stopped everybody. Silent now staring at me so standing in this park talking to my sister on the fourth of July July. She told me that my parents had another child that we had a another sibling that they gave up for adoption Shen years before they married the marsh kids. We're full grown adults. When they learned of their full sibling? A little girl one hundred percent marsh. that their mom had named Lee Shah. When when Steve's parents gene and started dating it was just a fling? When gene became pregnant they decided to put the baby up for adoption? The unusual unusual thing though is that after that gene and P ended up staying together seven years later they had Steve and now they've been married for almost fifty fifty years. But all the while. Neither of Steve's parents ever spoke of their eldest child where my family is shockingly open so that the fact that they like sat on this secret was wild. It's been years since the truth came out in the marshes. Wants to do something with that. Truth but Steve says. Procrastination is a family trade and in this case decades of his mother's shame has turned that procrastination facination into total inertia. But Lucia is never far from any of their thoughts. Megan wonders what it would be like to finally have a sister. And Steve's Steve's younger brother Kevin Wonders if leashes redhead like him Kevin Scans every room for red hair and then they're Steve's dad a few days after after the secret slipped out. Steve met up with him as he does every week. My Dad is a retired truck driver and kind of a tough guy and every Monday night. We shoot shotguns together in the summertime in the car on the way to go shooting. Steve asked his dad. How often thought about Lisa said every day Eh and we drive like a half hour drive on the freeway and about halfway there are no shit man? This is like a short story thing. It's almost too corny but There's two ducks to adult dachshund and three little baby redux crossing the freeway and my dad dipped like deep into the shoulder of the freeway and then Recover the car and Mike waited. Allow is like did you see me. Miss those ducks as yeah. Yeah and It's one of the few Times Times I've seen my dad cry but as much as the marshes think about Lisa when it comes to actually trying to find her. They're all waiting on Steve's Mom I think my dad For as much of an Alpha tough guy I think my mom runs it shit you know. Yeah Yeah Yeah So. It's kind of up to her and I think she is scared about what. Maybe she'll find out like if Lisa has hard had feelings about this or of Lisa's life didn't go as well as it could of or Howley Chaba feel to meet her family only that's intact and went on to have three more kids like the wouldn't that be weird. Sure the families intact and Steve Explains the marsh. Kids are all close close and doing well now. Megan career is a nurse. Steve Rights and Kevin Repairs home appliances. But growing up. There were a lot of drugs and a lot have trouble. Kevin had a serious math problem and Stephen. Megan drank too much. Steve almost flunked out of high school and Kevin and Megan both dropped out. There was one Christmas the marshes spent visiting Kevin and treatment and one weekend Steve Spent in jail because he and Kevin got into a brawl. Over a beastie boy CD and I'm just wondering like Lisa who was raised in a totally separate environment. I just wonder what she's like. You know so. Our House was so loud when growing up and Like I always thought my family's Kinda weird like they drink Windsor or seven up like it's GonNa be vanishing from the face of the earth. So what is the Windsor Seven Up. That's a that's the marsh family drank man. I I pardon my ignorance seven and seven man. It could be Seagram's to Canadian whisky and Lemon Lime Soda. The finding out whether leash is like a marsh marsh steeped in Windsor and chaos isn't so simple so the hospital no longer exists the hospital where your mom had her right. It closed Catholic adoption like my parents never met the couple. That adopted Lisa Steve has no information about where leash ended up. He had a friend with connections. Run the name leash marsh through an FBI database but found nothing thing. It's almost certainly. His name isn't even leash anymore because it was closed adoption the only way to reach her is through the adoption. Agency Steve's as a mom has to write Lucia a letter asking to make contact but whenever she's tried to write in the past her sense of shame gets the better of her like she wants to do it. She said she would do it like or do you know like how do we make this happen. and this is why Steve is come to me. He needs a spur to action. Someone who isn't a marsh to make sure the letter gets written and we could use some how it's almost like when you WanNa like go to the gym or something just like have somebody else who's going with you like some kind kind of accountability. 'cause we when we talk about it as a family and we do whenever we get together like my parents are all game for it but then it just doesn't happen and it hasn't happened do do you need to really kind of Show up with a pad of paper and pen and Camila. Replace it on the table right in front of her right. Let's do this now. And so in a bid to do this now I tell Steve to phone his mom and tell her to clear her schedule because his wedding friend. Jonathan is boarding a plane to Minnesota and heading straight to their house to make sure she. He writes that letter. I just think we need a little help. You know what you need. Is your mother to get off the Dow. Who is this guy now me again after the break This guy pays a visit to the marshes. 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He's nervous vest which is not helped by economy sized car. Give a broom gross. How are you? I'm six four. Steve struggles to shoehorn his body into the passenger seat to sit back. Don't you could. I'm sorry off. Although Steve says it's all good thanks to my Minnesotan to American translator APP. I know that he's in fact deeply resentful. You have the direct Naples. Reappearance live. But when we arrive at Steve's chiefs parents place it's a one story rambler cluttered cozy. I mean type. We settle in around the kitchen table. Pete makes his way through his daily two pots of coffee and gene quietly stares down at a blank piece of paper to help spur her letter writing. I ask how she impede I matt and Jean Becomes animated telling me about a party at which pete stumbled in late with a group of friends and they were all drunk. I can't remember if he kissed me on the knee and bit me in the ankle or vice versa. That's that's like what the serpent did in the biblical story. So and I should have never eaten at apple's soon after gene moved moved into a new apartment building wherein a delightful Sitcom twist. Pete was living right down the hall. That thanksgiving Pete stopped by jeans. Place drank her entire bottle of Windsor. Drunkenly proceeded to show the dinner. Guests is gone. Guns are no big thing for me gray. Has I got him laying all over the place right to illustrate straight. Pete reaches on top of the kitchen cupboard and pulls down a forty five automatic. He places it on the table next to the PIE that Steve brought honey guns. Do you have shot around the house. There's one oh run. Fired weighs twenty downstairs and the Party. The bottle of Windsor the gun. These are all parts of the Marsh family origin story that Steve knows well but the part of the story that Steve has never heard his parents went from a casual fling to a decades. Long marriage. I'm pregnant I went home and told my mother and she flipped out on me. I remember leaving. I would down the base with my mother and the laundry room and just remember running up the stairs and crying and getting in the car and driving back to my apartment because I was trash in her mind signed. Gene came from a strict Catholic family when she got pregnant. Her mother told her she could only visit home after dark carrying coat in front of her stomach and one point during the pregnancy gene slipped on the ice and had to go to the hospital for hemorrhaging and my mother came into to the hospital. and Said you can't even have a baby right. I mean she was so disappointed in me. I don't think she ever forgave me for that. That's the one thing I said to her before she died is I am sorry safer disappointing. You Lucia was born premature so the doctors kept at the hospital for week. This gene ended up spending a week with their newborn daughter. I remember holding her and crying and telling her you know that I. I hope good life and said I'm sorry that I couldn't keeper after that week. Gene signed away a her parental rights. I didn't think I could raise the child by myself. But she never said what he never said. Hey let's get married and raise this baby or an. I never said it either as Mother Alice just took me in as the I felt like I was part of the family so I felt this family love that I wasn't getting from my own family. You know ooh Pete's mom told gene how much the whole family liked her. How they hoped she would be the one and that painful time brought gene and Pete Closer Sir they ended up really falling lives and eventually they did get married? And all this time Lisa responsible for them growing into love together together having three more kids being a family for going on fifty years was out there somewhere living a different life with a different family. And I know that Dad I. We've never sat down like this and talked about it just kind of something. That happened forty eight UTAH. It's Al Ooh for forty eight years genus quietly marked. Lisa's birthday by repeating the same silent prayer. I hope she's having a good life and it's that hope that ironically may gene think. Think twice about ever searching for Lisa. She told herself that afl-cio was happy. She didn't need to disrupt that happiness. I introducing her to the marshes and their chaos in our family was so loud and so you own drug use and not going to school and it seems seems like there was always so much going on. Did I really want to bring somebody else into that. It was problems that I was bringing her into mar problems. Actor it it was more than Heck Dixie and I go do my Avon door to door and somebody would say which light come in for a minute and I'd sit down and I always said was like I was sitting in down in there. You know they had this peaceful house need nothing out of place. And then I'd walk in here and it'd be like jangled. So while Steve's motivation for seeking out leash is pretty simple. He has a sister and he wants nice to meet her for gene. It's more complicated. Her greatest hope is that Lisa is happy and well that she did the right thing and giving her up but if cliche is good in fall into drugs did do well in school and had a good life in the beige. The trouble wasn't something genetic a fate that runs through the marsh. plod jeans thanking something in the parenting. Her parenting I just I I want the kids more or less to be prepared. That Seem may not want anything to do with us. I'm open to meeting her. I'm open to just pictures. I'm over. Nate are open to having her. Tell me I'm a piece of shit that's fine. I'm willing to do whatever she wants. Because I feel the ball is in her court. Worst case scenario would be. Shed passed away and I never tried. Did you WANNA have pie now or should I get ice cream. You want ice cream. Steve serves the mixed Berry Pie that he brought and turns us to the matter at hand so they want to try them in the letter. We should do it now. So yes because is your mother is a procrastinator. I am to let you probably got it from me. Live leashes procrastinator too. That's the only way. Aw Gene finds it easier to talk than to right so steve offers to type the letter as Jean speaks aloud then she can copy it down by hand gene stares down at the table trying to get started. I don't know what to say. I feel bad had because we stayed together right and I feel like I. It's been forty eight years now. Why coming around now which it should be thinking? Just say I are. You remember your name. I remember your birthday. I remember holding you and telling you that I wanted you to have a good life leash. I'm stumbling for words wondering how to probably because it's been so many years wondering how to I mean how did find the fact that I haven't tried to contact. You are the senior so I don't think we need to get that heavy. I'm your mom. Give me a call but also you. Do you want to acknowledge why this was meaningful to you. You don't like it's tough three years after you were born your a father and I were married or got back together while we got back together right after. Oh God see now. It's all seems so stupid but like you can't change the past you needed to live through this in order to have perspective on it. Yeah so three years after you're born your father and I were married and now have two sons and a daughter who are open into making contact or does open Solomon. I think all of us would like to meet you if you if when you're ready. I don't think maybe it needs to be anymore. That's good and then just put our names folks. We all watch is gene gene copies the letter over by hand. You did good g Stephen I head back to the rental for a while. We just sit there think that they're going to get those forms forms off. It's going to happen this week for sure. You really think so. Yeah I think so. It doesn't happen. It doesn't happen in the next month or the one after that. Partly because Steve hasn't been spurring as mom since we all sat down a and jeans kitchen. Steve is developed. Second thoughts about contacting Lucia rbis nervous. That like angry about the way things turned out. And I'm never so like what kind of impact I'll have my mom. I've had some conversations with friends it's like what are you doing this for uh I dunno like there's real potential for Sadness two more months pass and I'm having trouble trouble being a spur to steve spurring. Hey Steve Jonathan speaking Just calling the check-in I can't get a hold old of anyone Mr and Mrs Marsh. This is Eh the The man who came over to your home some time ago another two months go by and still no movement and so I decided that maybe it's better to just leave them be maybe the marshes would rather just forget the whole thing and go back to being the same marshes. They always were Hello Jean Yeah Hi Jonathan. And then. After a half year of foot-dragging I unexpectedly get word that gene has mailed the letter and the application from their a social worker was assigned to the case her job to find signed Lisa and ask if she's open to receiving jeans letter and not long after that the social worker gave Jean Update got a a call from Lee Shah and she said she choose very opened. Seen my letters mm-hmm This episode of heavyweight is brought to you by Miller high life for Hejaz thus. Have you ever noticed how everything tastes better. When poured from a champagne bottle you know? I don't think I've ever drank anything other than champagne. Champagne bottle oh you must UAE. I have champagne bottles. Full of Prune Juice Prune aid and ultra carbonated Prune Bromo Seltzer and all of it tastes better from a champagne gene bottle then for my traditional prune bucket. You know what I think I'm happy with my Miller highlights. Oh right. That's what I meant to talk about. I heard you can get the champagne of beers in a champagne bottle now. Abby holidays celebrate the holidays with your own Miller high highlight limited edition champagne bottle. This special bubbly is available until January at a store near you Lee celebrate responsibly. Poppy many other coffee mom brought. Can I always come back at the marshes to catch up. Once leashes said she was open to seeing jeans letter. The social worker made it onto her but after that gene heard nothing for months then when afternoon at work gene got an email from the social worker. The subject heading read the letter letter. You've been waiting for. Attached was a scanned copy of a letter from Lisa dear gene and Pete. Thank you for your patience chance while I formulate my first response to your letter my name is Natalie and I grew up in a suburb of Minneapolis. Lisa Russia is now Natalie and it turns out she grew up just twenty miles from where the marshes loud parents even graduates of the same high school. As Jean the the neighbor growing up Natalie always knew she was adopted and she loved the parents who raised her long from Italy's now married with two kids. The Best Advice I've received since I open your letter was to take it slow. And then she sent a picture when she was a little girl is see resemblance or she's definitely Mr Man. Yeah Dear Natalie Pete Nye were so happy to receive your letter and picture richer it was truly an answer to my prayers. Let me know if you have any questions. I will try to answer them to the best of my ability and so a correspondence begins here. And Pete Dear Natalie who did I get. My Auburn hair was the redhead. Can I think for my unit brow when I was young. Grandfather had very bushy eyebrows. So he's probably. The call provenance love gene. Natalie is taking it slow. She's cautious and genus following our lead. But sometimes you can get overwhelming dear Natalie. We want to wish you the happiest of birthdays on the seventeenth. I've wished every three years since you were born and I'm so happy I can finally tell you. I hope someday we can meet but until then no. You've I've been loved Pete. In Natalie's responses are gracious dear gene. Pete my kids constantly asked asked me about the day they were born. We moms think about those moments always seven-day you will have to tell me about our day. There are a lot of some some days no specific plans even after months of correspondence. Gene and Natalie are still going through stacy the social worker. They don't exchange phone the numbers they don't even know each other's email addresses its tentative. I mean I've had a relationship with these three kids. CBS for forty years. You know and I haven't had that with her and sometimes that's sad. You know that we don't have that but I think we'll get there. You want to get there. Yeah I would like to get there. Gene finds herself staring at Natalie's picture while she's at work work idly thinking about what the little girl in the photos. Childhood was like and then comes the guilty and not having been able to give her what she needed. And all all the while Natalie so close why don't you call her up and say come on over. No because she doesn't want that then we all don't live to be a hundred years old same time. True Your your time Brazil. While for Pete it's pretty straight ahead for for gene. It's more complicated. Gene wants nattily to enter her life but at the same time she worries about what Natalie will make of that life Howell old gene be able to have natalie over to her home in jeans. Mind the places always so untidy. The grounding in the bathroom unfinished the tiles in the entry way in need of repair so jeans wait for Natalie is filled with hope. It's also filled with fear Time ticks by Natalie. Gene continued to exchange letters. And Eventually Natalie decides they don't have to go through stacy. AC The social worker anymore. They can email each other directly and a few months after that. John Asks Natalie for her phone number. I just I wanna be able to hear your voice. Sometimes gene says and Natalie says yes Steve's wedding is a month away. It's been a full year since Natalie received that first letter and Steve wants to invite her to the wedding. Gene doesn't think a big family event is the right setting for everyone to meet for the first time so gene asks Natalie if they can go out for dinner Natalie writes back and says has I think we can make that happen. Are you uh-huh and today's the day. I arrive at Steve's house as he gets ready to meet Natalie for dinner. His Fiancee Maggie and his brother. Rather Kevin are there to John Calvin Stevens Line Kevin a pair of jeans and because Kevin was wearing shorts and feared they might not be appropriate for meeting your sister for the first time. Steve is still getting dressed. This is my only a pair of clean pants at the moment. I don't want my new sister to smell me. You know what I mean sick. That'd be awful right so on appear to be clean since the marshes are worried about making a good impression. They barred me and my microphone from the dinner. This in spite of my important work documenting and interloping instead of saying gall view rotten. I I tell Steve that it's all good. Hey I'm getting pretty good at this Minnesota Talk. I think we should leave in five Everton minutes. We should ask. What are you on five? Aw Steve has made a reservation at a pizza restaurant on the drive there he worries but as usual. It isn't for himself. I worry about ullmark. The worry is always been twofold firstly. What if Natalie's life hasn't turned out well and it's all genes fault for having given on her up but based on Jean Natalie's correspondents Natalie as a nice husband sweet kids and a career that keeps her busy flying too far off places like Mexico Nexico City and Singapore so now with that I worry laid the second worry rears its head? What if Natalie is not only not in bad shape but in great shape all due to genes lack of parenting in other words? Steve's now worried that as far as gene might believe it isn't isn't the genes it's gene a person with the same genetic makeup. Is your three kids who did get all these things So the others. I think there's some pain there man like. There's some pain with my mom like. But she failed us or something and for that we failed her six eighteen. We're GONNA make it. Isn't it supposed to be six forty five. Oh I think six thirty folks will be there are they are family is predisposed towards the end. Wave home a few blocks from the restaurant. Steve Drops me off at the side of the road. He says the let me know how it goes. Okay by you guys have fun Later I'll learn that Pete. Gene and Megan were uncharacteristically on time. And are there to greet Natalie and her husband when they arrive teen hugs Natalie and introduces her to Megan Natalie and Megan stare at each other. They look so similar. I wish I could wear my hair like that. Natalie says and Megan Smiles Steve. Maggie and Kevin Arrive as the table is being prepared repaired while they way they all make nervous small talk. Pete fills the silence by talking about. How old is shoes are about fishing? The others join in talking about Goldfish. They've owned the relative merits of pacman versus Miss Pacman restaurants. They like they compare their heights eventually. The host leads outside to around wooden table built around a tree. The group orders pizza and wine. They all cheers. Everyone is questions for Natalie. They don't totally understand what her job is. But it has something something to do with selling accounting software all over the world. They get the impression that she's in charge of things. Natalie has confidence. She sits beside Kevon heaven. Who shows her a photo of himself coming in second in a hot dog eating contest? Natalie seems impressed during the salad course. Gene tells the story of how Winston I found out about Natalie he joked thanks for keeping me mom. It's not too late Natalie. interjects you could still be abandoned everyone laughs natalie shares the marshes dark sense of humor. It looks like Natalie is coming to Steve's wedding It's the kind of night where it seems like. It could rain at any minute. So gene grabs the check Steve. We've seen the look on her face as she glances it over. Mom He says quietly so Natalie won't here we'll help you the kids all. I'll go home that night and requests. Natalie's friendship on Facebook jean-pierre drive home with gene smiling all the way when we came home that that night p was opening the door. And I just put my hand on his shoulder and I said you know God look out for her all these years and a wind blow we truly have. It was joy. All the kids are so comfortable. Everybody was asking questions. There were a lot of laughter. There was a lot of you know joking and talking and very emotional and there's still a lot of thought process there that's going to maybe be with me on my life but I know that she had a good life and she's got a wonderful life now. I couldn't have asked for anything more. I really couldn't now You felt like you wanted Natalie to have a good life but that was complicated because you felt like it might reflect on your parenting in some way. So I'm wondering how. How do you feel about that now? just he's still have guilt but I think I just realized that no matter what I did or didn't do their they've all grown up to be wonderful human beings and we can move on all the things Jeanette had worried about. The Natalie might resent her that the family might be too much for her in. The End. Didn't matter that night at the restaurant things were simple. They were all just happy to be together But there's still one thing for months Steph's priority has been his mom's feelings the effect all of this is having on her all the while though a feeling of his own was slowly taking shape at the pizza restaurant. Steve wanted to say something to Natalie all night but he couldn't find the words. I really wish I would have told her is thank you. Yeah thank you for you. You existing like your miracle into the world and the way it happened brought my parents back together but then how do you thank someone a stranger forgiving your family life forgiving you life. Are you good you in my role as loyal spur. I've invited Stephen Adly to my office. So Steve can at least give it a try. It's the first time Stephen Adly have gotten to talk one on one Since this all began never thought. I never thought someone would search for me. This is Natalie. Wow He's never. He never even consider that. Steve Explains during the search. The marshes worried that they might not not live up to Natalie's expectations you know you're you're such an accomplished person. No Oh Gosh my Lincoln profile. Is it really doing the job. Ah fiar major I mean honestly like it you you seem like such a funny lake even Keel will person you know like like you have a wicked sense of humor. I it's just it's cool at school. So like you're uh-huh you have an iphone watch and you're killing it everything. I know but don't put me on a pedestal. I I I don't deserve it. Natalie's uncomfortable with her life being held up as a success story. She tries to explain that her house had its own share of chaos. Her brother faced some of the same challenges with drugs and other troubles that the marsh kids faced. It feels like what she's trying to say is blood parenting. I don't know why things things turned out the way they have to. But Steve undeterred in his effort to offer. Natalie credit you can so tentatively he gets to the thing he's been trying to say for a while. Now I mean I I feel like It's weird to thank somebody who didn't elect to be adopted but like Maybe my parents would have never gotten back together. If it wasn't for you. You brought them together like I think it was kind kind of a fling kind of situation and turn to a forty five year. Mary fifty like I AREN'T MOBILE APP. Natalie can see that Steve is struggling but she's struggling to if Steve is trying to say thanks for for my life how does she simply say you're welcome so instead Natalie offers thanks of her own in the way of a story. About Steve's Steve's mom in her mom when my mom was around she and I were really really close She wanted to thank you know. I wish I could thank her. She's kept saying Ron wish I could think her home right and when she passed away in two thousand and four she couldn't. Yeah so the first thing I wanted to do was do the thinking that decision set to trajectory of my life. I'm so I'm so lucky to be where I'm at in the end. Stephen Adly are both grateful for the same thing. The family that they ended up with Everyone is asked. Oh have you ever thought reached out I I always had the answer. No I'm good. I have a great family. I once I opened door can never close it when when I received the letter I can honestly say. I didn't have this figured out. And I thought about what my in my path would be. My Momma crossroad of do I do I pursue this or do I let it go. Has Natalie speaks. You can see a thought flashed across Steve's face all the time he's been trying to thank Natalie for something she didn't even decide rather than for the thing that she did decide when you put it like that way when you put it like that like you did have a choice here whether to even talk to us you know. Oh like like you could have been like now. He risked you open the door. And and so yeah I guess Natalie I do thank you for that man. Like the way that you've been with my mom has been super cool man and I I think for a along sheet Kinda deserves like I think like cool stuff in my. If you know you've been really cool and from our choice It's been two and a half years years since the search for Natalie began and in that. Time Natalie's interactions with marshes have been based around occasions jeans. Birthday Steve's wedding but today they're just hanging out steven his new wife. Maggie wanted to have everyone over for a backyard barbecue. Even me on our way to the yard. Steve gives me a quick tour of the House is shelves. Loaded with books is plans is that indigenous to this area. Natalie shows up with her husband and two kids Pete the tough guy who thought about Natalie every day for almost fifty years is there to greet them over here. Gal GotTa have absolute area shortly after Kevin shows up with a bottle of vodka in a big bag of Frisbees and then Megan. Who heads straight for Natalie? Anyway but there's one person who's running late fifty s as it turns out gene still stuck doc at the grocery store. Buying some last minute stuff for the party. Classic Steve says the marshes are unorganized chronically late. And maybe maybe that's true or maybe gene pacing the aisles. Procrastinating nervous about what Natalie might make of how the marshes live with their Iowa. Plants Inside Vodka frisbees off but in the end. Gene doesn't wait years weeks days or hours. She's only late by fifteen minutes. Maybe gene wasn't procrastinating. cresting at all. Maybe she wanted to show up late to be the last one to walk into the backyard with everyone already there and see the whole family hanging out joking and talking. Everyone just happy to be together and now that the furniture turn to goodwill now the last month's rent damn take this moment if we manage we felt around accidentally accidentally this episode of heavyweight was produced by Colella Holt and me Jonathan Goldstein Kalang with Ba Parker and Stevie Lane. The shows edited by her Hejaz Special. Thanks to Emily Khandan. Lou Miller Hans Buteau Damiano Marchetti Alex Bloomberg and Jackie Cohen. Bobby Lord mixed the episode with original music by Christine Fellows John K Samson Blue Dot sessions and Bobby Lord additional music. The credits can be found on our website. GIMBLETT MEDIA DOT COM slash heavyweight our theme song by the weaker. Dan's courtesy of epitaph records and our ad music is by Haley. 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14: "Awkward Conversations" Week

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14: "Awkward Conversations" Week

"Hey pod people do you ever have a flashback to something really cringe e that you did ten years ago. Today's your Lucky Day. We're reliving those times. It's awkward conversations week at ear buds. Welcome to feedback with ear. Buds brought to you by ear. Buds podcast collective. I'm your host. The the founder of ear Buds Ariel Nissim lab. This episode covers the week of January. Sixth through ten Twenty Twenty Happy Twenty twenty and welcome to the year of the podcast. This week's show is brought to us by sprout a platform that helps you start a podcast of your own. Your Buds podcast collective is listening movement. We send an email every single on Sunday night that contains a theme and five podcast episodes on that theme and each week's podcast picks are curated by a different person. Anyone can create a list. This show is is just that I'll share our five podcast episode recommendations of the week. 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That she's been avoiding and what happens when one person in a relationship has way more money than the other Tuesday's episode comes to us from the clearing and is called hunting season. It's fifty two minutes long in this episode. We meet April. WHO finds out that her father might have been a serial killer? Wednesday's episode comes from this American Life and is called. If you don't have anything nice to say say it in all caps. It's fifty eight minutes long in this episode. What happens when the Internet turns on you? It's safe to say whatever you want on the Internet. Nobody will know it's you but that same anonymity makes it possible for people to say all the awful the things that make the Internet. Such an annoying sometimes frightening place Thursday's episode comes from Private Parts Unknown and is called men have abortions to part two. It's fifty four minutes long for the seventh episode of Private Parts. Unknown hosts coordinate Cossack and Sophia Alexandra are back with the second installment in their three part series featuring men talking about their personal experiences with abortion for this edition. Were joined by two guys. I former youth pastor slash current stand stand up comedian Derek Murray and then filmmaker slash writers slash VR extraordinary Christopher Morrison who exemplified. How subtle religious indoctrination can manifest in surprising prizing ways as the shame and stigma surrounding the issue are processed Friday's episode comes from heavyweight and it's called the marshes? It's fifty six minutes long in this episode. After a drunken slip of the tongue Steve Marsh and his siblings discover a secret their mother has been keeping from them for almost forty years now. Steve Steve wants to help his mom. Take action those. Are The podcast recommendations. 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Heavyweight Check In 5

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Heavyweight Check In 5

"LET GET US TV. Hang on how? How are we stevie? I actually had a really great weekend. what did you do? I saw two friends this weekend as it has in real life. Yeah Yeah my friends Peter and Leo and you know we stayed six feet apart and everything but like like I saw friends and it's been so long since I've seen in person a friend. Yeah I was waiting for them outside and I heard Peter go you know stevie and it was like immediately. I felt like I was like lighter like it really lifted something and I left feeling really light like I don't know I don't really you know it was very hard to resist the urge to just go over and like give them a hug. It was like fighting with that. You know yeah I also saw people for the first time you know ten feet apart. This weekend My IN LAWS. They came by. I think it was nice for Augie. Occasionally of course like you would forget and kind of run towards them and we'd have to pull back aggie. Stay stay back. I still glommed GRANDPA and I think those were the moments that felt the roughest. Because you know it's sort of like your negating this natural wonderful tendency to run towards people that you love so Augie and his grandparents were exchanging knock. Knock jokes has all of August's knock knock jokes made no sense. Yeah so that was kind of It was a mixed bag but it was. It was kind of Nice. Yeah Colella and what have you been up to? How was your weekend just something about like this past week especially like I don't know I think it just hit the point of really sort of feeling like gray like I feel like I really like hitting up point of despair of So this weekend Sorry I'm getting so emotional. It's okay Yeah yeah well so one thing. We did this weekend. This is you and your boyfriend. Yeah me and my boyfriend got a Zipcar for the yesterday just like go somewhere else Which ended up being like? We had a nice day But the planning of it sort of just like it made us feel worse because we were like. Oh like everything. It's closed like it just really made it feel like oh there's like nowhere there's like nothing to do and we ended up going to foretold them and walking on the beach and having out there which was nice and then in the evening. I watched a movie which is like all I've been doing watching a ton of movies But I missed like going to like a movie theater like going to the movies So I made popcorn on the so since oil oil which I'd never made it on the stove before like I'd had it with my family that way but I'd never done it myself and you've had popcorn in a movie theater. Yes I've had plenty of popcorn in a movie theater. I want it so much popcorn and a movie theater that I threw up afterwards was as a child. I'm assuming no this was like two years ago. So no that sounds like living dream are. How can you be sure that it was over eating popcorn? This has happened to me but this poor. I think the problem. I don't eat dinner and then I eat just popcorn with a lot of movie theater butter on it. It like makes me a little notch but I love it so I always eat it anyway. Wow so you so you really love. Popcorn popcorn. Yeah and did you use the technique of like where you wait for the first colonel to pop and then you start shaking the pan vigorously. When I heard the first one I was like a really. You Question Yourself. Yeah does but it turned out really well and I put. Ice melted real butter to put on it. Did it make you less nauseous? Actually K. SUCCESS. He didn't throw up. I didn't throw up. What was there like something just about like having like popcorn and watch a movie with a nice. Yeah I mean it didn't make it feel more like an event instead of dislike filling the time I guess there's something like just about the sound of popcorn popping that I think is universally like one of the most wonderful sounds great. Think we're in business? Won't you know what else I've been up to and this is going to cheer you up? This is going to cheer us all up. Okay you ready for some good cheer. I guess I decided that as a special surprise as the check in with some favorite people from the show people that we and America and parts of Canada have grown to love like do my old friend Gregor a favourite indeed. We talked for a while. He's Homeschooling is kids. He's taken on their education and we got to talking and Do you remember a young man named Joey? How could I forget? How could we forget? Two seasons ago Gregor and I went to Los Angeles to help him Been banned from his favourite pizzeria and He Joe is kind of a sloppy guy and he was having trouble his roommates of which there were many many many many many roommates and So Gregor and I it kind of decided that we would Give Joey call check in with him and see how he's doing during this quarantine There there there was something that happened. During the course of our telephone call That kind of made Gregor and I feel really good about having called him in the first place because it seemed like he was still need of our help. Joey is the so. I think it is good to hear your voice. Guess who I have on the line here. It's some me Joey. The one and only you sound exactly the same only healthier a healthier than last time we were together. Do you radiate health. My my diet is a little more varied than it was when we last spoke when it was just pizza. Yeah I've moved on from cold pizza to Some some actual veggies now. What do you got in your Crisper Georgia? The House? My house just went to the grocery store yesterday so okay. We got eggplant Lemons an lines Old Leaks. That's a fun one who who has a leak I think we can pause there. Joey Do you still have that mustache yet? Yeah and I'm growing a quarantine beard as well. Are you still keeping up with your rollerblading For the most part I mean it's it's kind of slow down because it's not super fun to Raleigh and a mask. I think last week I've joy. He had a roommate situation. That's right so now. What what's your deal. You living on your own I. I'm living in a much. Better situation now Living in a duplex apartment with six other boys. So you know little little tight quarters but how many remain did you have back back when I think it was five by one but it's a bigger space. It's like a real house I'll I still am in curtained-off kind of makeshift living room. Turn bedroom deal wait you so you still have bed sheets for walls. Emc only one while this time as opposed to all of them. I gotta say no offense to Joey but Johnny. I think you're craftsmanship and fixing Joe's life is questionable. It's way better another roommate and he's got a sheet for awhile again. Wyoming to win Joe is not doing well all. He's my son Joey. Well who's your charge. You said I'm going to get this guy out of his like no. We were both well. That's the thing see. I'm giving you credit for for elevating my life and lifting me out of where I was see. I'm doing a lot better now. I just picture them on his rollerblades on a slight greed where he's rolling back down not realizing going backwards on the hell okay. Downhills are always the funnest part of rollerblading. So you you're you have now six roommates. Yep We've all been friends for years since college. You're pitching in at a so but lately since corentin started it seems like the other roommates in the house have kind of doubled down on trying to keep things clean which you know. I. We're spending more time at home. Things get messy easier But to me like I I. Can't you know clean every single time? Like that's just going a little too far and so. This started really getting to one of my roommates. Every time I would leave a single chroma single knife in the in the saying he would like confront me had on And it's really just blew up the other the other morning when I woke up and the first thing I hear is is just him. Beckoning me into the kitchen to say. Is this your knife? Is this yours and like you just wanted to just get into as my first thing. I hear in the morning and I just really couldn't like I needed to avoid confrontation so I just basically ran away and like said I hear this right now. Now Joey when you went back to your room like this would be a situation where one might slam their door. Would what do you? What do you do now? I I mean I try to do the same. I retreated to my room But the difference is he was able to just walk like right on the other side of the curtain and speaks me five minutes or you crawl under the curtain. I'll push it aside. Just painting of imaging less dignified fraud crawl out again yoga better than that but no he did he did. Come around and try to try to talk to me through the curtain and just said. I'm here to talk when you want to. Did you ever end up having that conversation with him? No No Instead he he ended up sending me text like I think a few hours later. That was actually an apology he wrote my approach was not the right one and I apologize. I haven't felt great this week. I've been overly sensitive and goes no need to respond. Just wanted to send this to you. So you knew where I was at I really care for. Don't want to hurt you or cause division between us. Well I only well okay. Did you read this tax until now I read it? I read it just one time. I was still definitely kind of heated when I got it. I think you just heard Joey digesting the second and last emotional phrase of that text. That was definitely from signed wait. I mean. We don't usually talk like that so it's a pretty surprising there. Okay and then what was your? What was your next text back to? He he said no need to respond but I figured I would just let them know. I got it and so I just wrote thanks. He descended as the Mo Jing. Or you actually word. And that's it just stinks. I accepted his apology. I mean how. How long ago did you get this from your roommate I think it was about a week ago. Now were you to call him over and say hey. I'm partly to blame for this whole knife knife situation. Also he would know what you're talking about. Yeah Oh yeah but wait but I my question is I mean do. I owe him an apology. I think we need to that first. Gregor this roommates seems like a prince. He's like I'm sorry. I yelled at you for leaving your filthy knife and crumbs on the floor. You're important to me and I cherish you and I cherish. Our time together did eased cherish. Don't think you think that's better. Does the cavalry point is Jewish and pick up after himself. This is not complicated equation. All right so you. You're you're saying that Joey owes him a little bit of an apology. A reciprocal by yourself and your disgusting Slob your reprehensible but at least you're you're only victim if you live with six dudes. Everyone leaves a knife in the safe. You got a forest full knives in the sink. You're all under house confinement. I think it's time to be super persnickety so he could have been nicer about but I still think he's apologizing for giving you some harsh treatment. I think you need to step up your game. I think you're right. I'm totally fine with you. Like sleeping with your dirty socks next to your bed. That's in your. She did off quadrant of the living room. But you can't leave food around. That's just not good. So what is your roommate? What is his name? His name is pay then is is is paving within shouting distance. Right now I'm talking to a in like the closet doing the recording. I'm can you do it in a muffled yell from inside your closet now maybe opened up the closet door and okay let me let me get out of the closet here and it's going to work to please my now? Joey struggles to get out of his closet studio. We're going to have an advertisement. What a building of narrative suspense. You know I've been listening to this whole thing on double speed and now I'm going to slow it down to single speed here. Come the parade of savings. Hi. I'm Jonathan Goldstein. Host of heavyweight a lot of listeners. Ask if there's any way that they can help the show they ask. Jonathan should I play it extra loud so the neighbor's can here? Should I repeat my favorite lines around the office water cooler but really if you WANNA help please listen to the show on spotify? It's free and it's easy to sign up for search for heavyweight on spotify and click that big beautiful follow button. Thanks for listening to my desperate plea and we're back we're back. Let's just join joey as he struggles to get out of the closet and On with his life also a thousand degrees in there so it feels good to get some fresh air and hold on and climbing over the desk. Great now okay. I'll also mentioned that. That paintings room is the one right next to mine so he almost share a room really. That's curtained-off now so listen. I kind of wanted to apologize actually for for what happened last week. I think he probably know what I'm talking about. I do know what you're talking about. Yeah so I. I know that you sent me a very thoughtful message. I thank you. It's probably was took a lot of that. And I just. You know really heightened time and I didn't want to. It could have been handled better on both sides. Thank thank you. I don't know if I fully said it but I apologize for except for like leaving things around. I know it's my responsibility with this community. Thank you so much. I mean it's just nice to know that we're on the same page because there's no tension in the house and things are going well so you're doing a great job man thank you. Thanks for keeping things claim. Joey Jelly Joey. Those magnificent that was so good really from the last time that we were with you. I mean you've come so far now. That was really straightforward. And I was getting ready to start sweating when you said I wanNA talk to you and you were just clear. Concise really spit it out. It was great. Yeah I think he definitely appreciated that and I feel better too great thank. This is the kind of skill. Set that only Goldstein can give you the deal with your legs and Gregor. It's all you see before we were both trying to enjoy off on each other and look at us now. The whole time you were talking all I could picture was the fade and Johnny comes on and his dulcet voice where he's like and he goes fade out and so it is that the roommates were reconciled and the apartment found peace once again so I spoke with a another favourite Steve Marsh from the marshes from the titular. Marsha as you remember do you remember Steve of core Seagram's and seven up Iowa plants soon? We did episode with Steve. About how as an adult? He'd found out that his parents had had a kid before he was born that they'd put up for adoption and that they never told him. Or anyone about and Stephen I said about trying to find her. So check in with Steve to see how he's weathering this Pandemic hand he still needs a little help from From Jonathan Goldstein. Can you hear me I can? Can you hear me? Yeah has your heads base. Because I know you're you're you're pretty social person. Yeah that's that's been my biggest thing so I I love meeting New People and kind kinda wakes up my brain and It's one of the great Pleasures of my life so now Barath of the chance to meet New People your mind drifts to People look like if you can't go outside you go inside and so you have these Memories in style for people who haven't talked to you in a while. Are you thinking someone specifically because we we've been doing this thing lately where we're trying to connect people with friends that they've drifted from Warren Mika. She's in Paris. She got pissed at me and When I was stuck in Africa her now husband had to go to Paris Orly started. Get Out of the way. Hang on a second backup you were. You were stuck in France. I was stuck in Africa. At what what happened. My friend was in a movie About people going to Abon Africa to do AIBA. Which is this Route and I went down there and I met them in and I was like I want to try. Ibuka and I did and I went into like a few state for League. Forty eight hours and I missed my flight back. Holy Cat and this was pleasant. It's horrible like a waking nightmare kind of thing and it was weird like I i. I did like thirty spoonfuls of the big grind up this AIBA. Got Into a powder thirty spoonfuls of it and then. I also did an additional How much of this August through an Enema at the same time? God Not Sound appealing. It's like you're eating like basically like a large breakfast bowl of this of this us Highly Acidic Sawdust. And then when you're done with that they're like no no no now comes the anima you. They're like oh you're you haven't had enough. You're not you're like is like I don't can't do it. Can't do anymore being a baby in there like okay. Well coming to this hut and we'll give you an animal. What recollections do you have from those forty eight hours anything stick with YOU Well the the The ask you describe what you what you see. And I was like I saw some like flickering unlike the lantern you know so then becomes. That's my either good name like em like whatever the African equivalent of flickering in the lantern as which is like who doesn't see flickering lantern. I was kind of quasi is seen as a woman in Minnesota at the time and I I felt like she was not just seen me. You know I focused on those kind of paranoid feelings until I went into this like. Yeah great out Fugu State for eight hours then to to come to realize that Moroccan error isn't GonNa to refund tickets and I unless somebody can appear on my behalf at the Paris Orly airport. What why would someone have to? Why would that be the terms of getting reimbursement on your on your ticket needed like I don't know so? She had to go to the this airport. In France her husband did and I think meek found the whole escapade to be irresponsible and has really never never forgiven me. And that that that was the end of your friendship yeah. How long was it since you last had actual contact romance so this was in? This is like right before. May and I started dating. It's like eight years ago so then I think it was like a couple of years later or something like hey you know. I might be coming through town. And she was like. I don't WanNa see you And was that the last contact you had with her. That was yeah love. Meco like me. 'cause she has a great laugh. Man I I used to love making me laugh Few kind of Few people in my life than I really hurt them. Do you want to reach out just to say you know? Like see how she's doing in the midst of all this. Yeah man that might be nice. Government is maybe. I could actually apologized to her. Maybe formerly because you never have really. I don't think so. Is She still in Paris? Because I think it's a right now it's midnight in Paris. This calling. Her midnight might make things worse. Yeah so on behalf of Steve. I ended up just Sending me an email. And she said Yeah sure we can get on the telephone so So that's what we did. You hear that European classy ringtone. That's better than you that ringtone better than me. Mika let me put on my headphones okay. I don't talk I didn't think of it. Hey Steve here Steve. Hey Man how are you? How are you good man? I miss you. I was just thinking I was talking to Jonathan Kristoff. Having to drop everything and bail me out of my eye stupor in. Africa and Inviting that Conde Nast Guy The tog refer to like crash your place way. Your mom like walked in on shed. I'm really sorry to interrupt makeup. Forgive me wait what what. What is we talked about the the whole drug thing but what what is the? What is the thing about the the photographer? Oh will like Emeka had gone on on a family vacation and She let me stay in her crib again and I was out with a Conde. Nast tag photographer. And he didn't have a place to stay that night and I volunteered. Migas place without asking her permission. Also lightweight so so on top of the whole other thing there was also this guy. You're still sylvan. I mean Mika that's think honestly like I'm sorry for all of it and then Christoph as well I feel like I a strange myself by acting like such a ugly American now. I would definitely wanting to help you out when you're at Africa when you call me at you were like I'm desperate. I was totally like okay. We're GONNA get you out and stuff is a really great guy and and I would just like March. Just tell him thank you please. Like I don't know if I can swear. And then you gotta go. You could swear or something. I don't know that you better right. I think what was really problematic with that Yeah you're invited your fan without telling me so when you ask me like a couple of years after it's a Come here sweetie. I was like I had to make a choice. Do I WANNA have another adventure and put up with like Well it was kind of tricky when you came and it was a little bit for lack of a better word high maintenance right right totally Steve I am. I mean. I'm totally glad that you know we're friends and I'm really happy to talk to you now and I really appreciate you. Think sorry and I thank you for here. Kick good makes me. It's great to hear Your Voice Man. What'S UP Steve? How are you? I'm good? I'm totally good Paris. How now like in need? And Hey guess what? That's our show but not quite yet couple more things well upgrade so that was why I wanted to mention that. Oftentimes people ask what they can do to help. Support the show. And you know what? Don't send us any money in your jewelry. All you have to do is Try to listen on spotify You can listen anywhere. You want And we're appreciative of that but If you WANNA do us a solid listen on spotify because it won't hurt at all how and what we've done to further entice is. 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Eric Ward on Racial Justice; A Conversation with Benny Gantz

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Eric Ward on Racial Justice; A Conversation with Benny Gantz

"Hello and welcome to people of the pod brought to you by AJC each week. We take you beyond the headlines and help you understand what it all means for Israel and the Jewish people I'm Stephie Cogan and I'm on Uber Sheer men. As. Our nation continues to grapple with the best ways to make progress on critical issues of racial justice. We here at people of the pod felt that we needed to hear from Eric. Award Eric is the Executive Director of the Western states center a civil. Rights Organization based in the Pacific Northwest Mountain states he is also a national voice, racial justice and a leader in the black community speaking up urgently. Urgently for the need to fight antisemitism, which he identifies as a leading driver of other forms of Bigotry Eric thank you so much for joining us I'm so glad to be here with you. All thanks for inviting me now as someone on the front lines of the Civil Rights Movement today, the first thing I want to ask is how are you? How are you doing this really busy, really crazy time. I think like everyone else I'm exhausted. I'm carrying a lot of weight. A lot of responsibility I'm not alone in that we are moving fast soaks at the community level has really mobilized around civil rights, and you know it's a responsibility to support that leadership as much as possible I think I'm both nervous and. We are watching kind of in a way, the end of one age a period of time, and the beginning of another, and we're kind of in this inbetween points, and so it feels a little chaotic can. We don't know what's next I. Don't know about the rest of folks, but that brings anxiety to me, but also joy Reid I watch folks every day across communities across religions, really coming together, trying to find one another struggling with one another and I think that bodes well so mile this chapter. The book is not ending particularly well. I think it tells us the story fact will. Yeah. We're clearly in something of a moment. Right? Historically politically. We're in a moment and I guess the question for someone like you and for anyone who wants to kind of be a part of making this elastic changes. How can we take a moment and turn it into something that really changes our society, so you know at the macro level I like wow, you know we are actually finally poised to acknowledge that everyone in our society are fully actualize human beings. That may not seem like a really kind of radical thing, but it's taken a lot of centuries for us to get to this point and I'm actually really excited to be here, right? Having a strong democracy. Means having strong participation, that participation doesn't happen if we only consider part of our society as fully human so at the macro level. I feel like. Wow you know. We are getting close to getting this right. And after ten thousand years you know or forty thousand years I think we finally earned the right to that right, so I want to own that and I. Hope folks own map for a second, and if it makes you feel good, good I so now here's what we should do. Its APP, we should get serious about some very specific things so. Twentieth Century. Policing has come to an end. It is a system that no longer works for the inclusive democracy that we are, and it is time for a twenty first century version of it that is grounded in community, safety, right, and the prosperity of our community them I think that that is exciting and I think we should be encouraging those conversations. We should be continuing to encourage folks to be dialogue with one another I. An I'll just be playing, right? We can't be a society that seals. It is okay to shoot and kill unarmed. Black people in our society are quite frankly folks were unarmed and running away. It is just not becoming a democracy so i. you know I think policing as. As a policy conversation is a topic of the day it will be the topic of the year will be the topic of next year, and we should not allow the sacrifices of those at the community level been working on these issues over the last three weeks or the last three decades to go to waste right now. So that's one. The second is look. We have to get a hold of the mission oriented hate crimes, and what I mean by mission oriented I. Don't mean the average hate crime. We experienced. You know that the random hate crime those have to be tackled, too, but untuckit about this rise of mission oriented targeting of vulnerable communities and their institutions whether we're talking about Anti Semitism. Racism. Talking about the targeted Latinos in El Paso or the targeting of Jews in Pittsburgh at a targeting a blacks in Charleston seeks in Wisconsin. It is time for our government institutions just step up and protect its citizens and its residents and A. We don't need new laws to do that. We need to actually start using the laws that are on the books. We have to bring transparency to those who seek to try to destroy democracy by terrorizing folks in our community. Those are the two things we could be right on top of right now. People are talking a lot right now. About structural or systemic racism, you know the kind of racism that doesn't rely on active prejudice necessarily, but is actually all about the compounding historical factors that lead to black people, having fewer educational professional and financial opportunities, today and lead, as you're saying to black people being victimized by the criminal justice system, but you eric. You've spent a great deal. Deal of your career fighting, you just called it. Mission driven hate crimes, fighting that kind of much more obvious kind of traditional, maliciously sinister form of racism white supremacy today. For some reason we call it white nationalism. There's a difference I'm sure between the two to some degree, but it. It's kind of a fine point. Why is the problem of white supremacy so difficult to tackle? I I. Tell you take a deep breath, right? Everyone's GonNa. Fill the charge by what's about to come out of my mouth, but don't be because none of us were here right for the creation of the United States of America, so none of us are response for what happened in the past were responsible. Sure those things don't continue in the but it's it's hard to address white supremacy in. In America because it's such a fundamental heart of the creation story of the United States, and because it's intertwined in such a way, it's often hard to kind of take the threat out right of the quilt, and a that's a challenge, and that's why the structural piece is so important in the present right, the way we get a handle on the lasting effects of white supremacy is that we documented. Documented Monitor right. We have to have systems that allow us to understand the disproportionate impact that african-americans face when it comes to job, discrimination, housing and education we. We have to stop thinking that things just happen to end up like this or that. Folks simply don't work hard enough. The fact of the matter is most folks in our society. Face the plight. They are in not because something have done. Done as individuals, but because of structural systems around us right accesses to network, and so that piece is critically important in terms of dismantling white supremacy. We have to shift those structures, and we have to monitor those structures to make sure we are reaching equitable outcome, but the other is something that has nothing to do with structures attitudinal. We are raised. The perceives the world in very specific weights Ryan. And the ways that we are raised in socialized to perceive the world have a significant impact on our lives forever. And most US live in segregated society right? Of where we live very few folks actually live in real multi racial settings meaning they are rarely engaging with other folks of collar as friends and colleagues. It's just not how most of our society works and that reinforces some perceptions that people have of black America that simply aren't true. In lead people to unconsciously believes right that black people are inferior in. In white people are superior, but it plays out in almost all of our interactions, and it's not just white folks who played that right? It's people of Color. It's black. Folks has well perceiving other black folks, so I think you know the answer to that is really one of diversity inclusion in our institutions right making sure that our staff our leadership reflect. The world as it is not the world that we proceeds are there specific kind of legal or forgive me structural challenges, though that make it hard to tackle white supremacist groups, so we think about white supremacy as a set of structures, right white nationalism is the social right. And and so let's talk about that social movement and and the structure of white supremacy, and how they interact with one another in ways that create danger for all of us so what we know from lots of studies, right folks can look at these studies. You can take them yourselves. We perceive black folks has more threatening just based off a visual concert. Right heart rates increase exiled goes up. It's not even conscious. It's kind of just a way. We've been sadly socialized in our society. So it is true right that law enforcement are predispositions. To See African Americans is more threatening just based off of visual contacts that has nothing to do with the conscious actions of an individual right has nothing to do with the racial background of that law enforcement officer. Then, the problem is is that it gets rewarded right further codifying that type of response, and then when bad things happen, it gets defended, and so then you get a structure that men continues to reinforce it south now. How does that system then interact with? Liz Social Movement. It is the fact that within law enforcement, not all right, but within law enforcement there is a culture that perceives white nationalists has less threatening us. The black activists marching on the streets, and it is an unconscious condition that puts us all at risk right. It is wide dylann roof after a mass shooting gets taken to a fast food restaurant. Right where he is allowed to eat on his way to Gel right at. Black people as they were worshiping. It is the reason that mass murders of the White Atlas. Women aren't killed. When unarmed Blackman Ark show right, it's a bad intersection that needs to be pulled apart, and how we do that is by asking elected officials in sear law enforcement officers to step up and provide better resources writes a law enforcement that reduces unconscious bias. Bias Eric I. WanNa ask you also about antisemitism, because you've been such an important and clear voice calling out antisemitism from all sources including in the political left in progressive circles, and we are so grateful. I'll just speak for every single Jew in the world. We are so grateful to you for that Why is understanding and naming antisemitism so important to you? I mean Anti. Semitism is important for us to understand I mean antisemitism fuels the white nationalist movement, right? The white nationalist, movement ideologically believes it is at war against what they call a global Jewish community. And what they argue is that Jewish? Conspiracy is underway to commit genocide against the white race right not true right, but that's the narrates in. That's the story that is being propagated, and that is the story that is a high, much white anish violence in the US, so by way of example. It doesn't mean that black folks don't bear the brunt of racial violence in America. We absolutely do. Latinos face it. Muslims face it right, but here is what we need to understand about antisemitism. We had huge terror attacks by white nationalist in the United States El Paso Texas where. Latinos believe over ninety Latino right were shot and killed. We had Charleston Dylann roof. Who I mentioned earlier, right? We had the tree of life synagogue. possible is Latinos Charleston was African Americans in Pittsburgh. It was Jews worshiping in their congregation, but here's the catch that. need to understand. anti-semitism drove all three of those attacks. In actuality, all three of those attacks should be understand has antisemitic crimes even though the victims right? The majority of victims weren't all Jews. The truth of the matters is that antisemitism has been the leading cause of violence by the White Nationalist Movement, and we don't understand anti Semitism enough to effectively respond right to this meredith that is being propagated by white nationalist by armed militia. Militia movements if we want to effectively deny these movements opportunities to of these hate, groups increase their own power. It means tackling anti Semitism has a sustained form of bigotry like racism is like Islamaphobia. It's like sexism minutes. It means denying oxygen to those who seek to tap into it so I often say I critique because I don't believe there is left wing Anti Semitism. Right Wing Anti Semitism. There is merely antisemitism in American society. In your important essay skin in the game, how antisemitism animates white nationalism, which will link to in the show tonight? Encourage all of our listeners to read because back where we started right. We are in a moment right now and I know that there are a lot of our listeners a lot of American Jews who are eager who are searching for answers to know. What can we do right? I posted the Black Square on my. Account I joined a book club about racial justice, but beyond those kind of symbolic steps. What can we do to be helpful to be a part of the solution to fighting this kind of systemic racism that we deal with in our side, so the saying that if I could make a wish? If jurisdiction community even cared the shine for me. That's not its responsibility, but. Folks really wanted to shine for air warding. Give him a great. You know. My birthday is coming up. Give me now all that Eric Ward said something I liked wants, and you want to celebrate. Here's what I'm going to say fight. Semitism, Fight it in a nonpartisan way, right? Don't worry about where it comes from. Just worry that it came in. You need to respond because I, say this right as a black man I don't WanNa die from Anti. Semitic violence, right I don't want my family members to die from it. I don't want my friends to die from it and Anti Semitism is killing people in America and if the Jewish community is fighting antisemitism I don't know who fights it right I don't know. Know, and so it's plea. It's a plea not to allow it to be used in partisan nature. Right to just fight antisemitism because you have skin in the game right in the rest of us whether we know it or not have skin in the game now there's three ways to go about the three ways to go about it that I think are productive or one is understand like you don't treat your friends who stumble into anti Semitic tropes right like David Duke I. Just like when my friends who are Jewish leaders, say something racist I! Don't treat them like David Duke Right. I get on the phone and say look. Let's talk about this I. Don't find this very helpful in sometimes I agree to disagree, but we have to distinguish between the argument in the house in. Folks were trying to burn down. The second thing is this. Make sure antisemitism is on the table of discussions. Let folks know right the Jewish values or alive and well right in America, and so I think that's critically important. I understand risks that that has met historically for Jews to be open as juice right, and so on recognize courageous step. The third is to I think you'll fall asleep, but I'm just going to say you know what read that skin in the game. If you fall asleep, three times, just read. It's re nights in a row. When you get done reading it do this. Find Three people who you love who haven't read it. And send it to them, but they get on the phone with them. I want you to read this to and let's just hop on the phone and talk about it for a half hour over tea or coffee drinks eric. Thank you so much for joining us for being so generous with your time and your wisdom and giving us some job to do. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thanks all. During last week's AJC? Virtual Global Forum Israel's alternate prime minister and Defence Minister Benny. God's sat down for a public conversation with AJC Jerusalem director. Avi Tall Leibovitch Defense Minister God's hailed Israel's partnership with the United States and with AJC, but acknowledged that Israel cannot take bipartisan support for granted and should treat Jews of the Diaspora as equals. Here's an excerpt of the defense minister's first major public appearance with an American audience since Israel formed its most recent government. Hello Minister guns and thank you so much for addressing AJC's global form. Great pleasure to spend some time with you. Thank you so much. I would like to begin our conversation. With the fact that you've spent many decades of your life. Devoted to Israel and more than two years ago, you decided to continue and devote your life and you join the political system I would like to open the conversation. Ask You. What kind of vision do you have for Israel? What kind of Israel you hoping to see? Well I, did serve for so many years and I'm very proud to continue seven now on the public and political around I would say. But I think of Israel many ways I go back to our fathers fifth. Saudis re initiate the Jewish life in Israel and I would like us to be Zalis country the base probably on four elements. Jewish country secure. Country Prosperous County. And Fair Society and nobody aside and I think the combination between those four elements is an nation home for the Jewish people. Is Very important. I would like to. See us is their home is where? Would like us to see them is. Work. And I think there's. So many ways be very there, but there's a lot of. That's quite a good optimistic vision. In a few months, the US will be going again to its presidential elections I want to ask you. How do you see the very critical and strategic relations between the US in Israel right now and also looking into the future. United States since the biggest strongest. And most reliable. Ally, the state of Israel. Pulled relations and I would say unique relations are based on. Show values. Showed interest and defected. We have to credit country. We are the only democratic country in dividends. And this unique relation between two countries. It's very important. Is being promoted but president trump. It was beautifully with other presidents before and I hope that wherever come becomes the president of knotted states, those relations is always stay strong and Saudi as they are. In the port of bipartisan support. from the United States to Israel. And the acceptance of whatever party here in Israel, women is in the United States these bipartisan approach I think it's very important, and we have to continue and strengthen all alone. We should not take it for granted. We should walk it constantly speaking in. I'm? Glad you this by partisanship. Because AJC has been pushing forward this message for its Andrea and fourteen years. You mentioned president trump and I cannot. You know Leave this conversation without asking you. What is your perspective on the trump peace plan? I I think it's very important vision in way plan I had the opportunity and the privilege of expressing into the President Surf and I've been in close contact with his people all along. It gives us a realistic approach. How Stable future should look like. And I intend to promote it as much as I can in the most responsible way, it a best life to continue from. And all in all I think it's great plan and we have to walk on the basis of it and we have to move forward with regional father is local policies of course. With consensus. We in these really society. Is Full, coordination and acceptance of the Capucci from the United States. In I, think it's a good place to start from walk above. Thank you for sharing that and I would like to ask you though you're also. The alternate prime minister would also like to ask you some Minister of Defense. What are your priorities for twenty twenty for twenty twenty one? Well obviously we must be. Should we have high level of preparedness Fronts are active front, so we have challenges up north. We have challenges in the solve to come to terrorism. And sophisticated readiness and appreciate aspect nor France I think that this is what bill doing. We also have to build up for future. Because the readiness of tomorrow is the build up. It will doing today. Goes. We will have lots of budget battle challenges I would say is results of even the coronavirus impact, but we will find a way to further strengthen. over capacity abilities in different areas of activities, and we also have to make sure the bonds between the Defence Forces in the society, said I'm looking forward to initiate a new model of service in the Israeli system, but if it's military services, national services, civilian services I, think every citizen should give something for the country. Of course military's fails among others, but other is on there as well and I'm including all the Israelis. Joe's non-jews religious secular. Everybody should be taking about of their for the. Running, you! Know Aj has been engaged for the past few years in compaigning going out his villa in its entirety with many countries, primarily Europe and Latin America. How did the recent covid nineteen impact is believing of their biggest threat today than they were in the past on Israel, should we be concerned defined media discrimination, or how do you see that specific threat? Seem immediate stressful a result of chronic. We must understand that he's. Hamas. Jyoti slamming Palestinian groups terrorist. Or semi military, -tary civilization that holes in their hand, high end operation and low ends for capabilities. I think we have to face them and bled countries around the world or really started to understand that we are talking about terrorist organization. Tips several systems. And sanctions against organizations all personal and who supports his ballet until decision should be on the way. Germany just did it. I think it's very important if we continue in other places. I think we should not. Be Confused. If. In this collision against his bundle. OR HAMAS ALL JERRY STOMACH, but it's group will ever happened again. S- could be tough, but the be by far tougher on them. Because we are stronger in. We will be very decisive and very serious with what we intend to do. So I'd rather be on Israeli side if TOPIX. On this list of terror groups, you just mentioned. Would it be accurate to say that Iran is in the first place. We're hearing? Different rhetoric coming from Iranian leaders about Israel about the West I mean we're or is then head rungs practicing original aggressiveness all the time. Says its militias in Syria. It does supported gives to his Bala Hamas stomach. Stephen with gives the sensible hold in Yemen. And I think it's the caller stove any negative tippety instability that we see around all around the region on story. And once again, if his, we lacked against Seattle Israel, it would be a huge price. Unfortunately Lebanon we pay. The price is hosting country. We demand from them as much as we demand for Syria. Statehood responsibility. If. Something happens to Israel. From this sort of Lebanon. Hosting, countries have to pay the price for this. Even Lebanon hostage countries, it's taking hostage by Milan shipped. Excuse by for the liberalism, said I, don't care. You flip them saying the Soviet country each day all. The hold responsibility for what separated from their area. And if it's quiet. Nothing will have. They would put us in any danger. We'll be, decked. Someone who is traveling back and forth from Israel to the United States and his in ongoing touch with the Jewish communities there I can't but feel distancing between US Jews in Israel in our brothers and sisters abroad. I wanted to ask you. How do you see the Jewish day? As for how important is to you and what our intentions in order to bring them closer to Israel because Israel? At the end of the day is the glue for the Jewish. People know it's very important Israelis the homeland. The Nation Homeland. Every jewel around dual. looks conservative reform all secret. I don't care. The Jewish. It's enough for me and I've been declaring before. The Western Wall is long enough to replace for everybody we have minister. She's responsible for the relations between the state of Israel. In the Bass Roth communities. I think it's very important to strengthen those relations. It's not only the challenges of Israel. That, we have to mobilize the Jewish. Communities around the border supporters sometimes may be the other way around, but if it's on security, Basil, the Elliott Basis of education of Nineteen Covid, nineteen or whatever it is. Poker and we have to look at it as a family. Finally. Know Agency has been one of the leaders in the global diplomatic world, and we have been around for one hundred and fourteen years. I would like to ask you to share unique special message with the AJC audience were watching US right now agency. Is An important strategic profitable state of Israel. Its activities around the globe. Is Very. Important was imported in the past. It's important to the prison to continue to be important the future solicited. Now it's time for our closing segment. Sure about table talk and joining us at our table. This week is Steve Beam the director of the contemporary Jewish Life Department and AJC Steve I should note was the very first podcast at Aj, his three points podcast way back in two thousand fourteen. He is retiring next week after thirty eight years at AJC Steve when you're talking with your family and friends at your table this weekend or at your metaphorical table. What are you going to be talking about? something. Thank you. This really is an exciting time for me. many ways bittersweet time namely the on the one hand it's been a fantastic ride with AJC for thirty eight years, and a lot of very mixed feelings about leaving on the other hand. I'm looking for with an anticipation who next chapter spending time with family friends grandchildren so in many ways it is. Time to reflect a bit and the time to look forward one issue that I've been grappling with in recent years. That I'm sort of leading unresolved in the ends of people like yourselves is. The ascending role of Orthodoxy in American Jewish life. This is taking place as we speak on different levels on the one hand orthodoxies experiencing demographic resurgence where Ted, percents of American Jewish adults Orthodox thirty five percents of children under age five. What does that mean looking till the next generation? The smallest movements has the largest number of children they will increasingly become the plurality, then will not be the majority, but they'll be the plurality within the American Jewish community. Then take a look at the second level, namely, many of them are willing to take an active role in Jewish public affairs, looking at the number of potential pool. If you will of Jewish communal activists, you're likely become not a plurality, but a majority of those sufficiently interested in concerned with tearing and ten, Ding to public challenges of the American Jewish community. Is that good or bad? On one in it means infusion of energies that we badly need on the other hand. We're going to have to grapple the reality that we have real divides within the Jewish community between Orthodox. Jews I was just you. Those divides take place on two different levels at a third quite imminent in other words. It's going to hit us very very very quickly. First level is that the political divide among American Jews most Americans Jews serving reform movements, their masks space inclines towards center, leading left Democratic Party liberal politics. The Mass Base of Orthodoxy is center. Leading right more conservative politics that's been going on for good number. Decades is particularly manifest in the current polarization within American society that we're going to see the next presidential election. It's already being bitterly contested, so that's the real divide within the Jewish community here in America. We have a second divide with respect Israel. Shoes generally support the chief rabbinate Israel and applaud its monopoly of matters of Jewish personal status such as conversion to Judaism. Who is a Jew Not Orthodox Jews not only find themselves some franchise by that monopoly, but for them and for I think Jewish history traditionally, the best outcome to mix marriage is conversion to Judaism of non-jewish spouse. We have to work to. It's encouraging of conversion. -sition particularly would say by Melissa. The late Rabbi Joseph Salvation Dean of Orthodoxy. However the standards of the chief rabbit is that one becomes Orthodox when it comes. Jewish, only one accepts the full observance of six hundred thirteen commandments something. The American Jews are not going to accept under any circumstances to be sure there are more liberal approaches to conversion, but the current prevalent approach embodied the Chief Rabbinate is who was Ju-. Only someone who converts in accordance with Orthodox standards, full observance of Jewish law. That creates enormous divide between the state of Israel with its monopoly of a personal status in the Chief Rabbinate an American Jews who are up coping with a real problem mix narrative conversion. It's best response. They look at Israel and say Israel doesn't recognize music Jew. Why should I be attached to Israel? I say this is the third elements lists of is going to be very evidence, namely should annexation lands on the West Bank proceed. American Jews given their own liberal tendencies. Finding accessions be something very off putting. Israel seems to be bent upon that course otherwise Timothy of it's still not certain the elements of fluidity, but should annexation precede. American Jews will find themselves deeply torn in terms their relationship to Israel. So basically thoughts for Chabad I don't claim to have the answers the best thing about my about tables that we leave questions unanswered areas. Stay that gives us a lot to think about and huge congratulations on your upcoming retirement and we hope to carry on. The work that you've done as well as you've done it. What a career to be proud of truly! You know I'm curious what you as a historian. We'll think of Asha about table topic. Because gentlemen at our about table, we will be talking about whether all history should be carved in stone of course I'm referring to the movements across the country to topple statues and monuments to confederate heroes and racists. Should the same standard be applied to anti-semites for example in the twin cities where police killed George Floyd. There is a monument to Charles Lindbergh on the lawn of the state capital and a bust of Lindbergh in his iconic aviator hat inside the Lindbergh terminal of the airport there. Lindberg who was decorated by the Nazis publicly blamed the Jewish race for dragging America into World War Two. And here in New York monuments, to Peter stuyvesant pepper New York. City, the bed Stuy neighborhood in Brooklyn, stuyvesant high school in Manhattan, but when Stuyvesant, the last governor of the Dutch settlement, which became New York finally allowed the quote unquote deceitful race. That's what he called juice to settle here permanently. He imposed fee. There was an excellent article in the forward recently by the incredibly talented Talia Zack's that explored a fascinating and Oh so complicated conversation in Saint Louis, Missouri. The city has taken down the statues of Columbus and confederates, but what about its name? The Catholic Church, which has a large presence in Saint. Louis knows the late King of France. As a pious follower of Saint Francis, of Assisi who invited the poor to his own table, he was known as the peace king for keeping France out of war. He introduced the presumption of innocence into the Royal. Justice system and he was brutally honest brutally. King Louis of France was not good for the Jews. His Royal Justice System condemned the Talmud and burned thousands of copies, nor was he good for Muslims I'm talking about the Crusades and the city has such a scarred history with native Americans and African Americans. But talk about a tough interfaith conversation. These are complicated decisions that do require conversation, abundant listening and patients, certainly not the qualities my Chabad table, but they are conversations worth having to figure out how to place history. No matter how ugly in the proper context, they also aren't decisions or conversations that happen overnight. It took centuries and a strong relationship with groups like. Like AJC for the Catholic Church to remove from its doctrine, the accusation of de Aside blaming Jews for the death of Jesus AJC has learned from experience that it takes time antitrust. The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. I believe that is a Martin. Luther King junior quote well. Perhaps it's true of the Saint. Louis Arch to. And that's what we'll talk about at our Chaban table Sevi-. Manja Steve as it happens Steve Marsh about table talk. This week is about you through the years. Many members of my family have had the opportunity to know you and I feel truly blessed to have been able to call you my colleague for the past six years and I think I'll be reflecting on some of your work over Shebab dinner with my family. Family this week I. Heard you highlight some of the things that you have worked on tirelessly for nearly four decades at the risk of being reductionist and I hope in true Steve Beim Fashion Steve for those of you who don't know almost always speaks in neat three point presentations. I would say that these things boil down to three things the nature depth. Of Jewish identity the challenges young Jews face on campus and the relationship between Israel and diaspora Jewry working on these issues can be absolutely thankless. When you stake out a position in favour of strong Jewish eighties, you can be called elitist for condescending to those who don't already have one. When you work to improve the situation on college campuses, you'll be attacked for stifling free speech or Schilling for Israel. 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237 Waterborne Adventures Part 2

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237 Waterborne Adventures Part 2

"Gaming and Bs episode to thirty seven being recorded April. Seventh twenty nineteen. Welcome to gaming in Bs tabletop RPG podcast. I'm Sean, and I'm Bret Williams show, folks. Welcome back glider onboard. Sean, how the hell are you men doing just bring an test Bredhauer you pretty good? Pretty good. Pretty good. So yes, we don't he's been on the show. Plenty Tempur minutes like tease the training. But Alex camera from game. We'll con- is with us today. Hello, alex. Hey boy. It's thanks for having me back. Yeah. I plan to get my my gaming Bs tenth appearance jacket shortly. I'm sure I am sure. It'd be some sort of corduroy number looking forward to wearing it in the holidays. So thank you. You're welcome. It is quite dandy. It's very the polka dots really set up your eyes. Out today quarter, right? So well, we've got Alex here. Obviously, we we've got other stuff to talk about later on. But when we get into the announcements here. So what's new at game Okon for this year for twenty thousand nine where we got cooking. Well, you know, the usual were it's such a machine now, you know, its year long cycle, and we're just in you know, you could talk to me at any point in your in a certain point along that cycle and in right now, we're generating all the cool new swag for next year or next year now next this fall. So that means the new plus she is in active production in terms of prototypes. And all that kind of stuff. Have you said with the new plus she is have you haven't. I haven't been I'll tell you guys right now. It's a display, sir. Beast all awesome. Nobody else knows we got the exclusive down do you? Do you? Gots it. And we're also, you know, we always give accustomed six away every year with that year's logo this year. We're doing also in addition, we're producing a full set of some really sweet dice with JC logos on them that if so people are so inclined they can buy or you know, as you know, we sell all that stuff for just barely over. What it costs us to produce it because we don't not too interested in making money on any of this stuff just to have some fun stuff. So we got a new day set that were actively working on I've been screaming onto that last couple of days getting the right logos. I it's kind of hard to get you know, like the d twelve and the a logo to fit each one of those weird little faces. So that's been taking a little time. And then beyond that, some, you know, the AL hall swag. We try to give those DM's they work so hard. We try to come up with some new swag piece. Working on a kind of a cool DND hat a trucker hat kind of thing up. Cool patch on it and nice getting some prototypes. I'm not sure if that's going to be the final product or not, but we're looking at some different products. We'll see. And then of course, on the calendar, we're approaching April fifteen which is are actually sort of the launched the official start of the JC yearly calendar, and that is when everyone can start submitting games. That's a great time for us because it's just it's kind of it's it's a magical experience when you run a shows, you know, Bret when you open up your interface and you see holy crap. Look the stuff that people put in you know, because you don't have any warning what's coming or how much or what was gonna look like you see all the great stuff. Like, man. This is great. Because you don't know, you know, you you don't have any control over that people. I think why don't you guys run more acts. You know, like, we don't we? We're we're we're just the vehicle we don't we don't actually run games. We set up the the milieu we've stopped the platform the the stage for you Aldrin games. And anyway, so it's cool to see that that stage, and that playbill get filled out with all kinds of awesome games. And that star. April fifteen so we'll see that. Yeah. Awesome. So folks out there who are who are going to come to game Okon this. It is October thirty first and Halloween is when it starts this year. And if you're going to run games on the gaming Bs banner, April fifteenth, guess you can get in there and start loading up the system. So. Yeah, Alex, it is it's interesting even in my little bitty ever. Come which is obviously much smaller subset. But it's still really cool. You'll have people like, oh, I'm going to run this or do that. And you sit there, and you just see this wave of stuff that shows up hadn't even know who these people are amazing. They're gonna run this game in that game. It is is really cool to see all the the really neat stuff in the passion that people put into their descriptions, everything that they wanna do at your event. So it's really really neat. That's awesome. Agreed. So that's, you know, in a nutshell where things stand I'm in about a month, or so I fly out to Seattle and to meet with all my wizards friends talk about all the kind of stuff that they want to do at the show. We're starting to put the streaming scheduled together. Getting a handle on gas. We have most of the guests. If you go to the page, we have you know, ninety percent of the guests are in the probably a few more, some probably a pretty big names will be added late has usual those folks like to wait till last moment based on their complicated schedules. So yeah, it's all it's all coming together. Man, we're pretty systematize. Now, everyone knows what they're doing. And when they're doing it. And so it's a little bit less less desperate than it was a few years ago. You know, we're like holy shit. How are we going to pull us all together? Now. All right. All right here. It's this time of year. This is what we should be doing when that Levy as grown. But you've you've changed you change venues, right? So in the middle of that growth also at the hop venue. So it's figuring out how you're going to deal with like the hotel space thing go from that to the convention center growth growth growth, and we add new venue new this new that oh shit that didn't work the band bad idea. This terrible idea that oh my God. What are we doing there? So yeah. No. It's it's still my favorite convention. Honestly. I appreciate that the new hotel. It's coming online, and it's almost built is going to be a big help. And then of course, I don't know if you've heard the our new governor bid made a big announcement about the expansion of the whole campus there, adding on not only two hundred thousand square feet to the Atlanta energy center, but also redeveloping that whole block which is desperately needed. And that's going to be great for everyone. Especially our attendees are going to have great new stuff. And that means, you know, some new restaurants and more hotels and stuff like that. So over the next few years, we should see some nice nice developments of that quarter. Which is you know, sorely needed. Cool, Sean Yanic questions relics on that. Now, man. I got I got one last one now, Alex because you guys it's got to be Halloween because we scheduled the line in the planets and whatnot. Is there? Anything kind of crazy cool. You have four Halloween or is that still in the works? If you don't you're not ready. Don't spill. But I'm just curious. No, my kids are making meeting and asked him totally. I'm totally ready. I'm actually this is something I need to get in front of. And we're. Working on it. We're actually producing a special poster that's going to go out, you know, Dane county and wider, and the we're doing a a cool ass trick or treat that night at camera the hours like five thirty seven thirty or something like that. And it's gonna be so free admission to any families who wanna come with their kids and trick or treat and the trick or treats can be pretty mind blowing. So it's going to have is like seventy different spots on a map that they can come and trick or treat including like, not only every spot in the dealer hall, but places like the board game library, chewed engines going to do this mind blowing little thing where kids can come in intricate treat. You know, we gotta keep that kind of dial back. So it's not to like this big red dragon swooping out at him or anything like that, you know, but, but it's going to be a spectacular theatrical DND where people can come with their kids and being a safe place, and it's free there's free parking and free admission for that night families. So in addition, of course, everyone's I'm sure we'll have much more dress up 'cause play stuff going on. That night piece of being Halloween all the game will staff will certainly be in costume. And the I've been the talk on, you know, the the various Facebook pages. And so on about the show lattes of Halloween themed games are going to be played that night, so heavy horror themes and cathedral, themes, and spooky stuff. And so should be really fun. I don't know. This is to be really interesting to see how it all goes. But I'm excited about my kids are geeked beyond imagination. Literally like, calm down the days. I'm like, hey, guys, April. Give me a break GM. Yeah. Yeah. So no, it should be fun. And I'm I'm hoping that in the city the department of tourism is behind it there. They think it's cool. So we're going to have some pretty good advertising about it. Because I want lots of kids to come and come in and trick or treat have a great trick or treat experience. See what's going on just get exposed to gaming a little bit. And makes the, hey mom. What are those guys doing over there? And you know, go to the dealer hall. That'd be great for the dealers. They get to have lots of exposure. So. Yeah, that's that's in a nutshell. What's the what's going to be special in different about third Thursday of the show this year? So we might see you in the guys dressed in something other than the Hegarty con runner a junior. I know that look I know that look whatever January the gaunt orange as we call it. Yeah. No. We'll have. Yeah. That night. We'll have some stuff on you might see high high likelihood of seeing pickle Rick as director that night. That's awesome. All right them. What else? Do we got for announcements? You pick a die winner. We did man. It's going to be hold on. All right. We did get a winner for the random. So this is hilarious. So Alex every month we draw name because they get free set of awesome dice if they've signed up to our Email list, they're automatically entered win. So this is like month three I think are for. So I get I download the list I go to a random number generator online numbers seventy five. I go down the list Brett Blizovsky. I'm like oh well click. My name's in there. Eight times desperately trying to win. I so it wasn't. It was not bread. It was John Hammersley was lucky winner for the month of March. So John I'll reach out to you via Email and make sure I can pass that along to the folks at awesome, dice dot com. And you'll get a free set of dice sent to you for those of you that did not win. There is still time. So be sure to head over to gaming and Bs enter your Email into our website, you'll be automatically entered to win at a dice. And if you'd like to support awesome, dice dot com just head to the website place in order for ten bucks or more use promo code gaming Bs. And then you get fifteen percent off your order Surco, Sean. How is the lymph leukemia? Lymphoma society stuff doing very very very well. So he did I did get a couple of folks from the audience that decided to help out Mark sack fake very much body. Appreciate it. And if folks are spread the word so doing doing, well, I've got a lot of a lot more ground to cover and the next were in week three of ten week campaign. So thanks for everybody. That's helped in any way that you can't even just spread the word. So they very much we'll speak it a Mark to soccer. He sent us a number of copies of his white box eastern adventures book, Marquette crazy nut. He he's he's well, I mean, our our listeners from currently generous people in Marcus just example of that he created a really cool thing we talked about last episode, and he hits Sean with a bunch of bunch of copies. So thank you very much, Mark. Yeah. Like ten twelve fifteen something like that. It's so Mark said we can do with them. What we please. So I don't know. I don't know where we're going to have to do. I don't know if we just throw that into drawing every month and people get free copy of white box eastern adventures finger some out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. I think. For all the announcements. Cool. Let's go to a random counters keep moving. Or is it here to give us to get done this before? Rates random encounter where we feel emails. Voicemails and comments from social media. We've got a voicemail from DM Kojiro not to let us down. He comes back through. So here's dmt coho on. I think he's commenting on total party kill from last episode. Bs or is just KoKo GP K one of my favorite subjects. Great episode. Hey, I don't ever set up to try to get a teepee PK on my players. But you know, if it happens it happens, I don't ever fudge dice to try to prevent it from happening, regardless. In fact, I can't think of a game that I haven't gotten a teepee K in with the exception of fantasy flight Star Wars, and that those characters are pretty tough to kill off. So, but I always try to leave the players away out. So that you know, if they get a t Piquet because they made bad choices. Then you know, that's the way it goes. But I never put them in situations where they can't escape or they can't run away or figure out you know, what they need to do to avoid a TV. K I I just don't think that. That's there is not adversarial on my part. I don't try to get you behave. I try to create challenging adventures, and I don't believe in game balanced. So you're gonna run into stuff that you can't defeat and you have to run away or defeating some other manner. Besides just fighting. So anyways, that's my thoughts on TV case. I do enjoy them. I think that the her they're fun from a narrative perspective if everybody goes down there lays glory. That's awesome. But you know, I don't I don't try to set it up that way. So just my thoughts. Thanks, guys, say like, yeah. I don't set it up that way, either, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, it just happens. It just happens that way, Alex if you had a TV at the game. Oh, sure. I heard this. I bel-. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, you gotta keep in mind guys we've been playing together for so long such volume. I continue to be amazed by how little people actually play and to some extent because it's just as it's biz life is busy, and it's hard to get schedules. Coordinates hard to find fellow gamers and all that stuff. And I continue to think my lucky stars for such a stable gained group wheel monks such good friends. And so on that we can play once a week for now coming on twenty years, and as a result, we played a shitload of of games and campaigns, and some, you know, turn turn left, you know. And that's the way it goes. I as a when I run I try to avoid a TK. I tried to set the my games up to be very challenging but survivable, but I'm not going to fudge things to keep people from either bad rules happen. You know that just happens aside? You know, once I'd can just. Bro. Poorly. Or, but you know, so I don't try to. I don't try to keep things are officially from TK. But I try to set it up that they're brought to the brink. I'll be yet survived. That's to me that is the height of the gaming spirits that the the player can walk away thinking. Wow. That was funky close man and really exciting. But we we pulled through in, you know, the drag to people out of there. But we did it. You know, that's to me is the the ultimate that's the goal. That's the experience that I wanted to liver. So it's been several years since spend like a true like blaze out like with all start over. And that's usually when I that's quite frankly, it was years ago when I was not as good as at this as I am now, we'll tell you. I've had this described to be before. And I've I can't remember John wicker somebody call it the John MacLean thing, right? You wanna be die hard? You want to just be down, beaten bloodied? But one you wanna feel like skin of my teeth. Just fingernails busted off. I pulled this off. So, but then again, sometimes players making credibly stupid stupid decision. Nhs. And hey, you know, it is what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Although, you know, there's a lot of people say this, and there are some famous ones out there who say, you know, I don't kill players players. Go players. Well, you've set up essentially an impossible scenario where you're you're. You're the players don't kill players. Well, I'm just not going to eventually I'm going to sit here I'm going to open up a craft shop stead, and I'm not going to go into the into the grinder that you have set up there. Now have I one have do I have survive. I've I've passed your test. I mean, that's really that's that's sort of nonsensical. I think in the I think we all know who I'm talking about the railroad to teepee K. I just think that's I don't know people still sign up for that stuff. And I have no idea why? But you know, I guess different strokes coal, Sean. You wanna read the next one man, chairman mad of house v comments on T PK? I thanks for the plug for critical core. So for those of you that don't know a critical core is that was a Kickstarter about the critical core game that was really catered to to towards folks kids with autism or the spectrum you see that Kickstarter. I did that looks really cool. Yeah. So he's he continues. My oldest son was as autism. So I supported high play some hero kids are with him and my eight year old and even the three year old, but it will be good to have a game that focuses on autism help very cool good articles on zones. I hope you post the follow up. So I can read them that helped put it in a way. I haven't quite heard articulated yet on T peak as I say, it massively depends for one shot. That's really don't care as a gay master player in a campaign. I tend to not like them on either side of the screen as a GM. I usually am I am usually prepared several sessions ahead. So a teepee PK way several hours of labor. Agreed. I think that's the biggest pain like prepare everything. And then everybody's dead. Awesome. Might be dumb reason. But my time is important to me. And when I wasted it annoys me, the one I mentioned with a Tiki on a saver die had the entire following book prepped on map, tools, probably fifteen plus hours of work. I'm pretty good at getting players to ride the rails. But I don't force them to be on the rails. Last AP ran the players. Skipped ran the players. Skipped nearly an entire book because they deduced some info early and combined it with foreshadowing from several months earlier, I usually prefer to run preprinted campaigns with my own spin that I've gotten quite good at over the last decade prior to that only ran Homebrew. However, I don't roll behind a screen and actually try new some some form of player facing dice if possible within the system, even if not inherent to the rules some systems like Genesis and facon easily be all player facing even though not inherent to the rules. I find player facing dice help a lot with character death. I am. It had a T PK using the method but player seem like the handle it better when they kill themselves. And it's not me as a player. The groups I play with tend to be pretty big into backstory character ties and personal character stories, sometimes a few deaths can destroy an interesting story arc that's going on the T PK, obviously ruins all of those. It also depends on how the PK happens if it's based on roles such as save versus die. I think that's a bad way to end a campaign if the players have made mistakes or just had a stream bad, Lucks luck. It's still annoying. But that's how it rolls. Sometimes. However, the endgame, hey, we are sacrificing ourselves for the greater good doesn't bother me. However, it's anticlimactic if not at some kind of end point, in my opinion, I could however see a situation arising as well, where the campaign has lost deem or people are moving or whatever. In an epic sacrifice may be the most satisfying. In conclusion, I have never been in this situation. But I could see how it could happen. So all in all I'd say I'm against DPK's and campaigns unless it's best for the story. However, I've never been one to stop them from happening either. However, I've had GM's poll punches to avoid them. Sometimes obviously, it's a different narrative style. Again, why you'd want to do that as a game master? What he's mentioning as I know. I understand why you would wanna pull it push her punches. No, absolutely, Alex, Sean. I talked about this before have you had heavy guys or anybody you've gained with done the whole. We will sacrifice ourselves for the greater good that that type of DPK where like look we all jumped on the grenade. Type of thing you if you run into that. So to to save other party members or to fulfill the the near the narrative goal of the story mostly last the most latter I've got a buddy when in my my home group band hesitancy that is to he will he will offer up his characters life at any given moment to save almost anything. And wondering if that's if you've run into that type of thing usually to save negatively say, hey, we're gonna we'll save the road from t- Matt by all jumping in the portal type of thing. That's interesting. I don't think we've ever had that scenario where it's been set up that made that an option, you know, where that that the dungeon master set it up that the only way to solve this is the the Gordian knot of life or death with from the player player standpoint that you have to basically sacrifice yourself to say, no, I don't think that I've never encountered that. I mean, there's certainly other characters have jumped in and taking one for the team and sacrifice themselves especially proper role playing depending how their characters. Built that. That's what they would do under those circumstances. Not like, your friend. Who does that all the time that doesn't make sense unless he plays the same kind of character every time he does. Okay. Yeah. So yeah, I guess so sort of sort of but not really I haven't I haven't. I don't think we've ever had a scenario set up like that where that was even option. So interesting cool are showing you ready? I'll do next one go for all right sky Slayton on T PK's, greetings podcast dual sick would feels good man. I wrote you stop with these. But I'm not going to. I've I've started to start. I've only run five so far. So this all is based around that system. I think you covered this topic. Well in your episode as long as the players, not peaky could happen. You wouldn't be much to save them. And it makes sense. It'll be okay. Even if it's stupid. Yeah. I guess we shouldn't have pull that lever. They're probably going to be less upset about it. I think you general. It's also easier for players to deal with decays at two sections at lower level. They haven't had much time with a PC and high level close to the end game teepee case, it's kind of a closure, right? See more players are going to be upset is that middle area with. Were they played the PC long enough to be invested. And there's a decent amount of story left. They look forward to playing through while. I haven't had a TK yet. I don't know if it would be the end of those PC's while it depends on the challenge. I think very few situations where everyone dies is only possible solution. I think that even in scenarios like pull the lever the room fills a water, and we can't get out fade to black excuse me. You can make the case of the P C survived. If at great cost, I think as a GM, you know, quote, unquote, everything so I wouldn't the. Oh, good. Lord would be what does that stand for join big bed in wjm, et evil, bad evil guy. Thank you. Good luck. In the big bad guy have enchanted that flooding trap to keep creatures live, but unconscious so the evil wizard would say, let's let's see what we caught and in the flood room Mortimer prep, some tasty morsels or rare organs to be harvested. They're always best fresh. I think example party is about to get into part two of our season valley, and they just had three back to back fights. When almost a TK. Everyone was at sub five hit points is next flight will be crazy of six level fours versus pirate captain in Mexico. Cr. Sevenish legendary actions Burr, captain is out of Mexico. Spell caster CR, six assists, legendary in Lear actions her first mate and some elite units. Good lord. This is getting ugly and a bunch of mooks who have one hip, but still hit like CR three pirates atop of that. There's a gun emplacement. Good lord. We making zones of the battle zones of the battlefield imaging. Oh and more power will come out of the ship and help everyone before rounds. And while the new crop odds with the children they're trying to rescue including their twelve year old orphan NBC dodger we loaded onto the pirate ship. It will probably get rack tell tell them where they were. They get in that this looks like they have a very slim chance of success in a very large chance of death. They don't have to fight. But knowing them they will. I'm not going to create creatively solve the situation for them though. If they TK guess who just got stripped of all their stuff in are on the way to be sold in the fighting pits of drag Nora, I think it makes sense of a group of pirates who also run slaves would take them. Patch them up and sell them off. Even in the weirdest situations. You can puzzle out a reason to have a k and t PK me knockout. Instead, it doesn't depend on the tone. It's me it does depend on the tone and the expectation you set in the beginning. But we are telling the story of the one group who did the thing. Not the thousands of adventures all drank the potion that turned out to be poisoned any cheers sky. Interesting. Interesting interesting. Right through sting. Indeed. Thank you guy. Are we ready for the main topic? I think we're good. Yeah. Let's get him tablist. I've into this thing dive. Right. You're ready, Sean. I'm ready. All right. So a while back. Sean, I discussed waterborne adventures, I think Shauna came up with this idea. We talked a little bit about ships pirates storms dragon turtles all sorts of stuff backing up to nineteen. However, I had I had not had a lot of experience with his Sean had minimal. We had a lot of players right in with some incredible a ideas and advice and so forth. And then we're like, oh it looks like wizard. The coast is doing this a crazy salt Marsh thing reborn. And then lo and behold, our buddy, Alex camera is doing this Kickstarter thing which also said with waterborne adventures for like, you know, we have a better chance of getting Alex on the show then somebody from wizard, so let's call Alex, Alex your silver medal. Thank you. I'm happy to be plan b. All right. So Alex before we get too far into waterborne adventures crafting and so forth and whatnot. What is the name of your what's the name of the adventure that you're putting together the book that is coming out Kickstarter launches on April thirtieth through frog? God games is called seeking 's malice. It is a full hard bound DND adventure. That will take y'all from one level one through ten and crosses several medium in terms of where the PC's go in a significant portion of it is on or in the water. And so you reference the salt Marsh book coming out. So I started this thing I sort of writing this book back last February. So February of eighteen. And I started reading it. And I've been, you know, worked on it, you know, here and there, you know, fulltime job all the other stuff gave Okon reading ale modules in between wrote the Trillium book that came out last year. So I kind of, you know, bringing this thing along, and I was about three quarters of the way done when in my inbox in October crops up the salt Marsh play tests materials, and I thought Lookie here. Isn't that? Interesting. You sons a bitches. No, it's opposite. All okay. Great. Are you kidding me? So wizards is going with my whole book is about the Sohag in essentially, and you know, salt marshes bringing back the the focus not they're not. They're not as waterborne as my adventure is, but they're dealing with coastal things. Actually, some of the other parts of the book will the salt. Marsh stuff is not of course, that's really just shoreline. Mostly. But it brings all those aquaman creatures back into our into the into the focus of the dean D world anytime a wizard's book hits. That's what everyone looks at. You know, it's top of conversation DM's guild scrambles to to print to reduce ancillary products. And so here comes crammers book at the same time, you know, kick-starting couldn't couldn't have worked out better. So I'm thrilled, quite frankly. So my book is a bout about the PC's are in town to set in the loss land setting, which is, you know, pretty much classic medieval. So it could be forgotten realms? It could be could even gray off. You can put it to any setting. But it's the frog is proprietary setting is lost lands, which is a Kickstarter that just wrapped up raise successfully they've been in there for twenty years. They're, you know, dash I literally hundreds of material bra products have been placed in this setting. Anyway, they started on your starting this little small seaport. You're hired. To find to join a search and rescue mission for missing ship in his missing, captain. And all of course, through almost everything. I write is an investigation. I've realized that that's kind of the thing I like to write a mystery investigation. And so you follow clues. You're you basically start on the water for the first third of the book on a ship crossed in surviving. Hopefully, lots of the hazards same kind of things you just mentioned can talk about that some extent, and if you want, and then you come to I guess, I can say this hoping to spoiler. There is also a significant portion of the book on a uncharted tropical island with all kinds of weird stuff going on new monsters strangeness happening and the final third of the book, if you're so lucky takes you under the waves into the depths to confront the seeking himself in his vast Sohag in city. In in a trench in the middle of the ocean. So it's lots of lots of different places for the characters to play to succeed and today, and so it's going to be I I've had a tremendous joy full-time putting this thing together. And it's been nice to be able to take my time with it have played tested. Thoroughly get lots of eyes on it in the industry that helped me, you know, make suggestions here and there, and I'm just alighted with the end product. It's it's in its final editing now, and it's going to start lay out soon. And so the books written the art I've shared some of the art with you go my God. That's awesome looking stuff. Dude meeting. You thank you. I'm this really next level stuff. I mean, this is going to be the deal. Let me put this way. When I said, yes, this guy's I'll do this. But this book has to be at least of good or better quality than any wizard's book that's out there. So it sits on the shelf. The binding is better the covers better the papers better. The art is as good or better the layout. Everything has to be that level. You know, and they are totally down with it. Their books of gut frog out have gotten so good. Anyway, they have there. So, you know, so we're working with some other pretty exciting things. I can't announce quite yet. But there's some other people who are entities out there who let's say they work with wizards on some of the releases, and they may be joining likely going to be joining our Kickstarter certain award levels to produce different things in it. So I'm super excited about this. You know, the the it's come together so nicely. And you know, and the play testing has been great I've been playing at shows. I have I'm going out to Colorado Springs here for Kobo con at the end of the month and for some more play testing I've been playing ruining it right now about halfway through at the game. Whole the guys have been really giving great feedback and having a lot of fun. So that's going real. Well, very cool. I have a question go for it. So Alex are they're going to be ninjas in this. Oh. Be pirate navy maybe pirate dinosaur. Midget fire. Dies waterborne ninja fire at dinosaur. Looking. I will I promise I will not go to episode fifty one and hold that out at twenty two minutes. No. Or forty minutes. Some you can totally do that. Because this book is true to that. You will not find any of those things in this book. Oh. Let me ask you a legitimate question. So did you draw any anything from the sea devils that monster cer- cannabis the second Ed de it was that I have been carrying a skips book with me everywhere. I go for the last year. All right. That's what I need to hear. I figure like there's no way with his election that he has not been devour you've been sleeping with that under your pillow. I figured yeah. And so as part of this is one of the struggles, these guys asked me to write a gonna college book, and like man, it's it's been done and done. Really? Well, but there's some spy, so I'm I'm doing it. But I'm doing I'm taking a different direction. Skip did a great job. And so let's just a props for soil. Steve marsh? Thank you very much for inventing, the Sohag in the first place. They'll see in Texas. I'll say Hello. And thank you in person for that. Skip for doing such a great job at this book and all the other people. Bruce Cordell, did a great book to is part of that same series developing these tremendously interesting creatures, they're they're cruel. They're they're they're they're they're want their their minded in their thinking ever. They see every other life form as a food source, but they're highly organized and highly structured, they have a caste -ociety. That's basically founded on the principle of might makes. Right. So the strong rule in the week serve. So I have done a lot of stuff. I'm writing a bunch of stuff about their systems of governance and the religion the cult of the shark God. And that's a really heavy part of my book sort of religious fanaticism that has taken over this these the HOGAN and why they're doing what they're doing which is somewhat unlike some of their core traits, which is they usually will never do they leave. Do they take live prisoners? They just don't believe in it except for my book. And there's a specific reason why they're doing so in it's really creepy and really weird. And I think everyone's gonna enjoy it. So yes, the devils has been tremendous. I'm trying to write a basically like a. A volume two of it. Very cool. Yeah. So one of the things that win I talked about this topic initially neither he nor. I had a lot of really good experiences with waterborne adventures either, you know, on a pirate ship or any kind of waterborne, especially underwater adventures. They were always kind of inside or this really annoying fucked up thing that the game master, and we will okay around the water how these rules work. What I guess question for you is what draws you to water. I mean, just even if we put your book aside. To me. I'm hearing you say you've got if not passionate released the desire to for waterborne underwater on water type ventures is there have you had really good experiences with them in the past, you know, mixed. I think like everyone else they just like anything else can be poorly done. So the the I took it on actually this as more of a challenge because it forced me to really rethink. How how they go. How I I know how to write something like that. How how to create interesting scenarios for the players to be extremely challenged. But ultimately hopefully succeed with really skillful play. And so that's been interesting. So let you your example of a storm. I think that's an opportunity that's missed with with DM's often. Because it takes some thought I think some preparation, so you're imagining a storm a medieval best vessel like a schooner or a clipper or something like that. So two or three mass three decks, and it's rolling through the ocean with going up big rollers and falling down mountains of water. Basically. So everything that's not nailed down this pitching around all the sale has been furled and tied down and the the boat in this an extremely. Vulnerable state is attacked by Merrill. Let's say so how the hell do you fight off when creatures that are essentially in their native environment with breakers rolling over the top of the ship. And you are they're trying to cast magic missiles. Right. I mean, so I had to think through those mechanics because we don't really have any is not really any in any game system. That's really at least as far as I know that that are there's someone off stuff that is. But not in any of the core sets for any of the stuff anyway fantasy D type things when it came to remember, my first addition even second dish in books. I think a little bit third and Pathfinder went out, but you can be how spells work under water. Remember that was a thing in the first edition DMZ. Like, hey, the spell fireball didn't worker did or this work a certain way. But. You're very finite list in that was only kind of the the pieces that when you get when you get nature and all of its fury in this this craziness and then natural creatures in their element. You know, how do you deal with somebody who's well fuck fucking just a welfare fireball in water, breathing and does the magic mess with the coolness of the natural impacts while it can. And so that was that's a that's a slightly different subject. We talk about underwater. But but in for can answer this five they've made it pretty simple. You have a swim speed. You can do pretty much anything. You can do all your things. So. Yeah, you can you just worse. I've not been I've not done any waterborne much of anything in five e so sure sure. So for the the back to when I was talking about, you know, the picking heaving deck in, you know, massive breakers rolling over at ten, you know, wind lashing, and so on so that this is, you know, I created set some circumstances of concentration checks that to do everything and. Different dexterity or acrobat. Check, Stephen move. And if not you you get swept to the rail, and then you have a chance to make a save strength saved. Catch the rail before your swept over in the delay, but hungry sharks blow are looking for your deliciousness. And so on so I set up all this kind of stuff, and I think, and then I played it with my guys. And they said Jesus that's hard. And I said well should be should we really hard. I mean, what do you think you're on a deck? That's that's often at forty five degrees plunging down a mountain of water while you're being hosed with a fire hose and gale force winds. I mean. Yeah, it should you should just run up and skewer the monster. This is going to be really hard. You've got to be extrordinary into accomplish that and also play well and think you way through that about how you're actually gonna -ccomplish those things. So I saw that the to me the challenge of actually really thinking about those environments, and what that would be like was fun for me. And I hope it translates into the book so to make the to make the environments more realistic. Instead of just relying on it's really hard or it's very windy, very wet. It sounds like you've got mechanical components in feels like Shaun. I've talked about this a bit on other episodes when you're trying to enforce in effect, especially of nature that type of thing having those mechanics, especially custom ones were exactly what you're talking about. I think would be super helpful just to get the players really understand how bad and how hard this really is. So I'm glad that it's tough because otherwise like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I run across the thing. And stabbing face, you know, but you're actually making it difficult via mechanics to enforce that fact, so that's pretty cool. I appreciate that. I'm tryin. So I think it's an it's it's being born out in the Platow stuff. I think everyone has been has been has really enjoyed it. And they come up off it exactly the experience. I want like shit that was harrowing, but we survived. Exactly perfect. That's all goals men, were there certain tropes that you wanted to guess when you when you crafting this one of the things that I talked to a last in the kind of. Troubles me's. If I'm like, okay. It's gotta be you're on a boat. They'll they'll be pirates. And it'll be a water dragon. I feel like I'm like, I'm stuck to a certain trope, our concept that I just can't get away from where you I guess because the alien this of of the environment compared to a land or dungeon or a mountain or something for whatever. He's I'm I'm not a big water guy. So when you were when you were approaching this did you look at the saying, I don't want. I don't want pirates. I wanted to do this this thing from the land. But twisted, so it's on the water, or I guess, how did you did you embrace the tropes? Did you try to flip them on their heads? What was your what was your whole approach to that? Yeah. I tried. I didn't wanna do, you know, straight down the line stuff. First of all as far as pirates go, you know, my feelings are well well documented on the subject Shawn's ready to hit the hit play. The the and there's great pirate stuff out there. You know? Those are there's some really good pirate adventures out there, and you don't need to sort of have asked that on my answer there. You know spoiler. No pirates NC kings malice. But there are some lots of other things that happen, and I'm trying to so there are some creatures that you I guess could maybe expect to a certain extent, but I've tried to make those encounters very different than they normally that I've at least ever seen them go. So yeah, you know, that's always the challenge, man. You know, you're trying to write something, especially a big book. That's you know, a big coup. Look in hard bound that's going to sit in and game store shells, hopefully across the country. I don't want someone to pick it up and say, wow, this is exactly vanilla adventure c ship adventure. This is everything I've always done before. No, I've trying to tried to come up with a unique hopefully twists on all these kinds of things, and you know, until it comes out, and I guess someone complained. Hey, this was done by Pathfinder fifteen years ago shoot. Well, damn it. But I hope not anyway. And I don't think so I don't think so I think so I I've. Yeah. To to to to the best answers. I sure as hell tried. That's the best. We can do. Yeah. So the other the other piece you mentioned was the underwater aspects of it and one of the pieces that so I love the I love that idea. Right. So you're you're on the Decca ship. You got these huge waves got mechanics to work with this stuff. We've got things kind of coming at me differently. But when it comes to like going from there underwater because. When I have played waterborne adventures before my previous high school in college, and whatever people out fuck, I can't swim. I'm like you say five years a little bit different. But there's there's there's the risk of drowning or the shipwrecked you're lost. You know, if there's a big gale and get thrown overboard Faulk, you could be two miles away. And you have no idea where the ship is. Everything's white or blue it depending on the weather so with the underwater or actually in the water stuff. How do you make that? Or how did you try to make it interesting in seem at least survivable versus y'all fucked? 'cause you're in the middle of the ocean waiting for sharpie. Yeah. I'm going to try to answer that in a way that doesn't give it away because. Yes. Absolutely. So I guess you can you can do sorta like a storms king some kings thunder did and that is you get there somehow teleportation, and there are pockets of air in this underwater realm, you know, they're like they're chambers that are air. Failed. Can you make your way through that? And that's how the one of the major sections of storm kings thunder is set up, and I didn't want to do that. Because that's how most of them go. So this is the in my book, the final third of the book is truly in the water underwater and Dow does a the your standard dwarf elf t- fleeing or whatever do that. It's not by submarine or anything like that. There's no you're not putting on a scuba gear. No apparatus with no apparatus. No mechanical things. It's not driven by magic items. I'm just going to say that the player characters have the opportunity to go through a very bizarre and creepy transformation you'll allow them to be at home in the depths. Okay. And it's head a tremendous amount of fun writing that and all the side effects and the weird things that we're going to happen to everyone. And. Yeah. So that that that's without really giving. You a good answer. I let's go. I like I like that to get answered. So the other pizza gets me with underwater since he gets me. But when the pieces Shaun I've talked about like SCI fi and stuff and one of the things, I think is hilarious in certain space movies. You see these spaceships fighting with like earthbound dogfighting tactics gets a three dimensional fully anywhere. You want water is very much the same. Right. You can be attacked from above below mall angles all sides. So some people like to play the DD, very, tactically. Not just the the mind. I know you're the mind kind of guy, but was was that anything that you took into account as you put this together because I'm thinking like Mike, sometimes get this this hankering for really tackle. You wanna pull the minis out fair? Three and dealing with levels, basically, because if you're floating in the middle of one hundred foot deep, you could have, you know, sharks come from blow sharks coming from on top, you know, saga and coming from the sides. How how did you? Did you think about that approach? Did that come into your brain Li hey, how the hell do I deal with this three dimensional up down all sides tactics? Absolutely. I'm trying to write this for every style of player and EM, which is you know, you try your best with that. But that is to have a a central story. But yet sandbox CS have it be narrative, which is my natural style yet be tactical. And so yeah, no. I try to do all those things. And yes, I there are specific sections that are very well suited to tactical play. And I've created environments where that is possible. So there is a a place where the passageways are up down instead of left rights because that's your under water and salt water. And so the those normal gravitational limitations are not there. So it's a an up down kind of thing as you as you as you proceed? And yes, certainly with a with where enemies are coming from. So, you know. So you know, I tend to get really granular stuff. So what are the limits of vision would limits of hearing? How do you deal with the cold at the depths? How did he with pressure at the depths? So I have tried to address all that stuff because you know, that there's going to be someone out there that couldn't happen. You crushed like a can if you're down with that that and so on I get that. And I've tried to address all as much of the real world stuff, as as you know, as it's realistic as as we could expect in in in a fantastic adventure. I mean, gosh you Roy's as well. Because magic cast you catch likable, but at this level of water pressure would offer yet. I know I know so so, but I really I really don't want to rely on because magic too much. There's a, you know, it's that gets to I've I've gone. I've talked about my feelings on mega dungeons that way. You know, they're certainly fun. But she's got it's gotta be have pretty good reason for why something like that exists in my opinion, leaving not to open that a whole subject up. But that's the way I. That's the pro-choice take. When I write stuff is that there is things at least as well as I can make sense when there's a there's a there's a reason for the way things work. Not just magic are. Yeah. Because I just that. That's a little thin for me. Now that makes sense. I think the you were describing about you. The passage is up and down side to side and all that stuff. I think the from a tactical perspective, even if you don't get super newly with minis and pushing lead across the table type of thing. The even the narrative tactical approaches going to I think it's going to be a challenge at least it would be for me and my players because I do not recall. I don't remember the last time Iran anything underwater or last time my players were involved in an extended underwater thing one of the guys was running a game. And they they had like a minor underwater battle with a giant crocodile? But it was like, you know, an average fight is what vice six rounds or something that was done. But in extended stay in a in that type of topsy turvy anything every directions of our our potentially dangerous in environment. I could see that being very challenging. And if you're if you're gay masters better prepared for it. I could see characters getting just chewed on savagely. Well, I mean, I really the I didn't I didn't try to write a niche book here. That, hey, this is for people who really get off on underwater adventures, I've hopefully, given every damn the tools to read this go through it and with through sidebars of excellent explaining different mechanics that with just one read through every person who wants to run a game. It's gonna feel confident that they can do so effectively and and present a thrilling adventure. And that's the what we're doing is working on final layout. As what you know, what mechanic in order deliver this to the reader that's the final tweak we're working on right now. So that's the goal as so this is not. Hey, if you if you love water will love, the I'm really trying to write a book that if you flip dean dear in love this book. And I know everyone tries to do that. But that's what I'm really trying to do. Because I honestly, you know, I believe that if I were to pitch this to my group like really really want to be in the water, the the part, I would say, especially if you're your group is there's a some let me tell you this. An aside. So my wife is is a tremendous proof reader. And it's because she's a painfully slow reader. She reads every character of every word that she reads. I couldn't I lose my mind. My wife. My wife does exact same thing funny. Yeah. I'm like, you don't need to read those five words to skip skip to the NY. Are you wait what are you doing? But anyway, she's a great proofreader. In fact, she gets off on finding mistakes and published books. She's she's got a highlight on finding look at this. They've been you know, so she does a great job, and we were out for her birthday, you know, a few weeks ago and her mom was along. And I was telling hey cow. I gotta get this book into the bubblicious, and you please wrap it up. I know you're, you know, takes a while. But I need to get this in. And my mother in law says, oh, I'm good proofreader. Can I read your book, and I'm thinking, oh my God. There is some weird shit in this book that some really weird creepy stuff. This is beyond normal teenage gamer has come up. Fuck mom wants to read the Abu. I explain this to you. Yeah. That's exactly it. So that's what my Sohail. I'll finish the story. Come back to your group. I said, okay, just you understand. This is not a novel. This is dean D adventure. So this is something that you know, you would present this in play this to players see knows a DND's. She's she's she follows enough of what I what I do. So she read it. She took it in two days later. She came back to me and said, I I love your writing style. I love the book. I I really wanna play this game. You got to be kidding me. That's crazy, which was great. But but anyway, so that's what I pitched the to your group. If you're you're you're squeamish about you know on boy waters. Not really my thing. I think your guys all like weirdness. And there's there's some real twists here. They'd like holy. I mean, how you know. There's some really creepy stuff that I've built into this. Because I think the under, you know, even when I just snorkel and I look at sea life. I'm just such a different world. It's just like you've stepped into another dimension into another realm entirely. And I'm trying to catch. Capture some of the creepy nece. We all us land our sun worshippers land, air breeders land Weller when we are in that environment. We feel very vulnerable and rightly so because everything in there will eat you if and everything exactly, and that's the kind of that's the kind of vibe, I'm trying to get give the players as they, you know, get deeper and you go down to a Haagen city. Wow. Good luck with that. And you're gonna see some shit that is going to freak you out because they're they're not like us. And in fact, they're very very different like from us. So that would be the people who to people who say, I'm not really into two ships. And that's really not my thing either. I mean, if I had to pick you know, what? In broad strokes. That wouldn't be my first choice. I mean, I tend to be urban adventure with some some out outdoor adventuring his probably I'd like to do most. But that's why it took this on as a challenge to say could I satisfy a skeptical asshole like me, it'd be it'd be a player in this game. What I enjoy this. And that's that's what I was trying to accomplish. So I don't know. We'll see I started. I picked out my my saltmarsh modules. My my original on star thumbing through like, yeah. This is kind of cool when the the new salt Marsh thing comes only maybe in talking you now I like this. I one things is kind of drawing me back to it was thinking exactly this. If it's unique enough if it's not just look him being attacked by pirates own. I've got a shark circling the bad, blah, blah, blah, dragon turtle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If it's got enough new slash different weird. You know off the off normal, right? Whatever that is because you know, much like yourself. Oh, my we've been playing playing since third grade. You know, you doing this long enough. Oh, yeah. It's it's one of these. It's one of those Kuito. It's this this this this, and that's a water weird. You know, all this shit. Yeah. And if you're able to take it in tweak it around little bit. Some what you said makes it seem much more Marijn to me than than some of the trope because every time I go to the water, I feel so bound by the tropes. I don't know how to break them. So for no other reason, I think reading this might be a good way to get my my brain unlocked from that. Well, I think you guys are gonna really like salt Marsh to I just think the guys that are guys and gals who worked on that book did a great job, you know, privy to a little bit. You know, some of the stuff got to see some of it. It's it's pretty amazing. So that's I'm just so delighted such a good, but because people are gonna play that safe, man. That was great. I want more of that. And so, hey, look at me every year, I got one that is that takes you higher level and much more dangerous Haagen, I've I've built a bunch of a bunch of new monsters to to make this all work. So. So you mentioned the levels, Alex what what is it geared towards start at level one through ten. One through ten is the whole book one through ten do you have a page count yet? I don't I don't it's not that far along. And because he hasn't art has not met words yet. So yeah, I don't know what that's going to be word count is going to be in that seventy five K range something like that eighty case. I'm like that. I don't know. We'll still tweaking all of that. But it's gonna be a full link hard bound. So I guess you said this isn't necessarily your groove to begin with. You took it on a challenge was their particular piece of crafting something for this type of adventure that you found I entered banging my head in this fucking wall. How do I get out of this jam do I get this thing to be interesting? Was there was there a sticking point where like fuck all this? Well, the problem is that for me is I created it's a mystery. So I'm leaving clues and making the clues significant enough that they moved the move the plot without being game-breaking if they miss them. And so having kind of alternate routes to get to the spot that they need to go to the next plot point took me some time. It didn't get it wasn't quite like this. I'm done. But it was man I need to rethink this. Because now what happens if they go there, and they, you know, so it was it, and, you know, gosh play testing just such a wonderful thing. I can't I can't stress it enough. If you're a designer and everybody, we all know this. But it's tough when you're like you and me Brad, we're just we're just doing the ourselves, and I've had a little more help with that than pieces with the publisher. That's helping me, but man getting out there and really kicking it around because it's amazing players will do like. Oh, wow. That's great information. I, you know, this is that really helps them to to to find. And I had some really. Good games. And in Gary con, if any of those folks are out there listening, there's an N P C. I don't like that term a player in my in my in my in my story that is now not in the book. Thanks to you guys. They they broke it. Yes. No. You can't take that guy. And do that with them. That's not a thing you can do. So I just decided it's easier to remove the temptation and take them out of the entirely and just write it in different way. So yeah, that's the thing especially with the mystery because you don't wanna make it. So we can't find the next thing. That's this is dumb or or it's too easy. This has to be it's just, you know, it's it's it's a challenging challenging thing to right. But I it's very enjoyable. But it took a long time. That's why it is taken me whatever here, we are fourteen months later that I'm delivering a finished product. I think what you said there's kind of interesting, and I did similar stuff with my with my pieces where you went was just finishing my blacksmiths folly little stretch goal adventure. And putting the other in their certain things that the last time I play play us. It was actually Gary Khan with some gamers new out of couple of from stage show. Anyway point is is there certain pieces like I need to remove this. Right. So in a if you don't want pirates in your game. Want it your characters your players tempted to become pirates don't fucking put pirates in there. Don't even plant the seed, and I think especially with when you're trying to build a mystery investigation in that way, you need to be very cautious with that. 'cause you want to keep it moving in. You know, you don't want thought dungeon crawl. You could say, you know, what we're done. We've got enough goal. We retire make new characters go onto the next bit. You you wanna keep it rolling? And I think I think that's an important piece where a certain point again, you're going to get it from play testing and say, you know, what this is this isn't worker, yank it out and that will help while the whole darn thing. Flow faster. I like that, you know, you have to the the, you know, we've talked about every time we the three of us get together talk about game design and game concepts as you know, railroad versus sandbox funnel. You know? How how do you handle all that? And you know, I think the hardest part of writing a big adventure long one. Anyway, is that first the first bit? First few levels, or for, you know, a third of the book or whatever because it secure casting a pretty broad net. And you're trying to, you know, get get things moving in. I've I've used Moore's funnel as to where the where you want. This story to be at the one third Mark to then go to the next section. Is that's challenging then chooses. This is going to be the be the longest biggest scope adventure. You've written in my correct true. True. This is. Yep. This is this means a tremendous amount to me I as a as a young kid who I was in value village in Portage, Wisconsin and saw the four d hard bounds that fundamentally changed my life forever. It of the thought of of my having a hard bound book a dean D hard bound adventure in stores with my name on it is humbling. And it's so it's a big deal to me is that in a means a lot to me. So that's why I'm so passionate about it and work so hard. I really want this to be great. I don't want people read and say, well, that's dumb. That would be that'd be that'd be that'd be hurtful. And I really I really hope that's not the case. So if you'd like to make Alex cry exactly. Sucks man. Just you will crush him. I will I'm sensitive. Sean. You have any more questions. No. But I do actually I do have one. So I don't know Alex divulge. And if we can't we'll we'll edit it out, but beetle and grim. Have you talked to? And moving on. Yes. I that's that's I made an allusion to a company that would bet is very similar if not exactly that earlier in the in the in the in the discussion. So yes, that is quite I can you know, what leave it in because I'm quite confident that's going to happen. Good. Yeah. That we're going to have some we're going to have some crossover participation from them. And we've gotten to pretty pretty detailed stuff. I gosh. It's just another couple of days, and I can tell you exactly what. But I don't wanna say that. If if I'm not sure it's going to happen, the they're gonna they're gonna participate. It's the what exactly they're going to do is. We're down to where we I. I'm ninety five percent. Sure. I know what they're gonna do in the sewer. They, but it's really a matter of they have some math on there. And we have some athletes on our end and to make it all work, and I think it's all going to work out. But unfortunately, I still need a few more days before I can sit exactly what that is. Very cool. Alex. Is there anything more about just waterborne adventures underwater stuff that you wanna kinda any words of wisdom? You wanna leave with this before we move on? Yeah. Just like anything else? That's preparation think really put yourself when you're if you're gonna run a game like that put yourself in that environment and think about what that means. You know, if you're not think about what it really means to try to swing a slashing sword through the water, you know, can work, you know. And when we're really what that means how that changes your kit. You know, for instance, being the door for plate mail on deck of ship. Does that sound like a good idea? You know, the so all those all those all those real real things, you know, the more the more thought you can put into one or the actual hazzards here. You know, because we're so used to dungeon crawls were screw it. I don't care. I'm gonna I'm gonna you know rock in there with my kid now make it work. Well, that environment doesn't you can't you can't be disrespectful to the to the to do a water environment, or it's not gonna work out for you. So that that's it. As far as that goes, cool, Sean if you don't anything else that we can move onto Daryl and then get Alex out here. I'm right. I roll. So I only have one this week. What do you mean? I've got I was reminded by Eric Lamma Aroo that they've there starting wise guys over cool seventy. Yeah. So if you are a I think some of the stuff that I've run at cons specifically game. All con about the forget about a game. Some of this is derived from that. So few like nineteen sixties or seventies Vegas mobster kind of RPG's than this one to check out and Kara kiesler is involved in that. So some of the artwork and stuff is pretty top notch. If when you hear this it's going to end Friday, April nineteenth. So it's not too far long. And then I'm sure you'll be able to get it and other resources like drive through and they're funded to just folks we're looking at it for five grand. They've made ten thousand five hundred eighty six dollars is right now. So good job. Good job Eric will will done. So Alex, your Kickstarter is in of April April thirtieth today. I think it's able thirty s. Yeah. That's the time. So when it hits, obviously, we're gonna need links and all that good stuff remain. So let us know. So we can pimp the hell of it. 'cause I got back this damn thing. So I wanna know where it is. So I can find it, sir. Shishir shoutout to a couple of my friends who have their own Kickstarter go on right now. It's called creeping cold. Ian and Jason are during this. They're the sewer bullet. I believe they call themselves there. They have a five adventure. That's already funded and it sounds pretty cool. And so if you can if you just Google creeping cold on Kickstarter, you'll see it. I backed it. It sounds like a really great again Brin talking about challenging environments and one that I don't believe it's really been addressed too much and five, and so, you know, check it out if you have have a looking for another five adventure, very cool found that wanna kick are real easily typing creeping goal up. I've Lincoln the show notes there as well. Well, Cooman are we good, Sean? I think we're good me are good. All right. Let's wrap this sucker up. Let Alex go. All right. Well, what are we talking about anything actually probably I don't know what it is yet while I'm I have victory on the roster. Do you emperor pedal thrown nice? Yeah. So Alex knows Victor. I think it's either Tuesday or Wednesday phenomena stake in so we'll talk about a little tech Amal. And over the pedal thrown an interesting thing to talk about with Victor and not that I wanted to try to engineer your show. But man, if you've got inside and we'll hit. The help. I was I was a little taken aback when you said the show number two hundred some holy cow. That's got. So I can I get it. I'm sure the sure stuff to come up with topics. That's a lot of shows. That's congratulations. Well, if you really don't talk about anything. You could you could easily do out. It's like number two hundred up there. And just like, hi, I'm Alex every like, you know, a couple of weeks funny. That's law blog a-hole, blah, blah Gable? A good thing. I think that just as a as a part of the conversations victor's talk about the OS are I don't know if you call it a movement or phenomena, or what what is what is what does not are gaming, the sort of the problems at least the either the toxin or the perceived success ity. That's in that group. I consider myself an OS are gamer to some extent. I guess I'm an old. I certainly consider myself an old school gamer being such an old bastard as I am and have played so much money and ODI and so on, but I know Victor has strong feelings about that subject because he was sort of one of the first guys out there who has, you know, a decade ago or more really working to to preserve and promote original. Older games. And so sort of where the where that group of gamers or movement. I don't think I don't think you call it a movement. Whatever it is where it is now and the perceptions about it is an interesting one. And he certainly I know he's got some thoughts on that subject. Well, let's cool. That's very cool. So good good advice. Man. I know I always like, Dr Victor. I mean, we get a beer like a few weeks ago and just thought for a little while. And then he had to go off to noble might games and play old school games. So yeah, I know. Yeah. Good stuff. Yeah. He's one of my favorite. Yeah. Well, Alex, thanks for coming on the show as always, thanks, man. Oh, man. I appreciate you. Guys are awesome. And yeah, thanks. Thanks so much. I will I'll catch with the beer sometime soon. Absolutely. All right. Well, hey, this one's all wrapped up. Thanks for listening and contributing and partaking and like, that's it. I'm sean. But I'm Brett good night and good game at all. This episode of gaming NBS brought to you with the help from the following be Eser's Graham, minor Corey win. Andy hall hat hawks barrow, Larry how Arctic Sokha pure mongrel, Chris deal. Ron Bishop Thomas, Wayne home fleet Craig Brandon Barnes Laremy wall. Dan, lavallee, Jason hob sky Roger bracelet. 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Mueller Speaks & The Underdog (with Andrew Yang)

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Mueller Speaks & The Underdog (with Andrew Yang)

"From cafe. Welcome to stay tune. I'm free Berrara. Most Americans are not really tuning into what's going on with twenty twenty they're going to turn on TV. They're gonna see me standing there, and they're going to say who's the Asian man, standing next to Joe Biden, and then they're gonna look you up, and they're, they're going to Google easy. Manson me. And then they're going to find out about me, my vision for the country and the Yang gangs gonna grow and grow. That's Andrew Young. He's an entrepreneur philanthropist, and a twenty twenty democratic presidential candidate Young's got policy proposals for almost every issue. But his focus is on technology, specifically automation, and its financial impact on workers, one of his solutions the universal basic income, which he calls the freedom dividend. It would give thousand dollars a month to every American, no questions asked. That's coming up. Stay tuned. Today's episode is a bit long for two reasons. We have our second ever presidential candidate on. Stay tuned. So there was plenty to discuss their but first, we have to get to some unexpected news from DOJ. I'm taping this late Wednesday afternoon, and has anyone in the vicinity of social media knows by now special counsel, Robert Muller, just made his first public statement regarding his nearly two year investigation into Russian interference in the two thousand sixteen election also that obstruction stuff while most press conference was brief, there's a lot to unpack and there's no one better to help me than an milligram. Former attorney general of New Jersey, but most importantly, my co host on the weekly cafe insider podcast. We'll continue this conversation for the caffeine insider community, and with that. So it's Wednesday afternoon about four pm a few hours after Bob Muller, finally, uttered, some words in front of cameras about his famous report, and I'm here in the studio with an milligram. I, I on so people got to hear what Bob voice sounds like to say that I can't tell you how many people have come up to me and said, I didn't know about more sounded like, here's a good voice. I think he sounds like what I would expect him to sound like I don't know if it's podcast good, but it's pretty good. Try them out. You know, the sense I've gotten from him as he doesn't want to do a lot of talking with our podcast or otherwise. So there's a lot to cover. I know he only spoke for like eight or nine minutes since we can talk like ten x right? Probably we'll try to go like five x but it seems to me the first question is was this a referral to congress, as we're sitting here and as I was walking to the studio. Democratic presidential candidates and other people are prominence have been giving out there two cents like this is clear. It's going to congress. It's going to congress. That's what modern ones but I will say before you answer. He did not say in so many words, it is my view that congress should decide this question is you and I have been discussing for some time now. Do we need to be reading between the lines should this be an issue of subtext? Why can't he just say if he means that to be true? Why can't he just say, look, we did this because we thought that you need to maybe provide some evidence for some other body. Like congress congress go to it. Let me start by saying one of the most surprising things about today was that in the lead up to the release of bar summary. And then the report every day for like three weeks ahead of time. We would hear the mall report is coming. The attorney general is gonna speak. It was everything in literally, Bob Muller is a ninja as our last night. We knew nothing this morning. My, my day is normal all of a sudden, like an hour, an hour and fifteen minutes before Muller spoke. He gets up there. So this was in my view classic Bob Muller said as we were discussing before we came on. I was on a plane back from Oslo Norway. I lost the wifi somewhere over the Atlantic. And at first, I was annoyed because I like to be like to be connected to the world. And then I lost the internet. And I thought, well, actually this is kind of a nice good thing. I listen to some other people's podcasts, I watched a trashy movie, and then my internet came back on after three hours and my inbox was full surprise with messages from lots of people, including so, right? Interestingly, the reporting is that the White House had been notified last night last night that a statement was going to be made. And yet it did not leak. It's amazing back to your question. Was it a referral to congress? You're right Muller. Never says, I am referring this to congress. I read today's a few things, I think Muller was cleaning up the record making it abundantly clear. What he said in his report Bill Barr spoke for him. A number of other people have been talking about what Muller meant. This was Muller's chance very brief. But very I think concise and clear of what Muller wanted to talk about. Doesn't mean it was say, but it was very concise and clear about what he wanted to talk exactly what more wanted to talk about the other pieces. I read it as Muller saying I've done my job, and I've done my job within the constraints that I had, meaning the office of legal counsel opinion, said that the president cannot be charged. We made a decision that it wasn't fair to go out and make a determination as to whether or not he should be charged if we could not charge him and there was no possibility of having your day in court. And by the way, there's all these actions going on to try to get the underlying evidence which I'm not a part of, and the office of legal counsel in the constitution provide or imagine that the right body, or the body to sort of hear this now would be the United States Congress. So referral. No. But in my view, like a I've done my job now it's time for other people to do their job. I think, yes, wouldn't preliminary question, I guess, because he didn't say much new, and he made it very clear, and we'll get to this in a few minutes, you know whether. Should testify, what would be the usefulness of his testifying in front of congress? But he didn't say much new. Why did he go in front of cameras? A my, my senses, Bob Muller wants nothing to have to do with explaining in going on and on, and subjecting himself to members of congress. And again, we'll go over that and more details things worth worthwhile. And I think he was a little bit. I'm not gonna use that old metaphor of he looked like he was doing a hostage video but he a little bit was. It's the same Bob Muller. He seemed you know, he seemed a little less strong in his manner than he usually does. He seemed a little bit more reluctant than I've seen him before at other events. But I think he felt this was his way of sort of satisfying, the throngs, who said, you got to speak, you gotta speak. He must have thought that it was a good inflection point that it was natural to say, I'm wrapping up. I'm resigning today. I'm going back to private life. So it's not some random day that he's designed to speak for nine minutes in front of cameras. But I think he thought he was checking some box agree completely. He was not happy to do it and more than that. So I think if Bob Muller could have done, it the way, Bob Muller, completely would want to he would have written a letter saying, dear attorney general VAR. I resign sincerely yours, Bob Muller. Maybe a couple of extra sentences in there, and he would have literally left it at that. But you're right. That congress has been demanding his testimony. It's very clear that today he said, I don't want to test that was new. That was new. We got that sense, and he did in my view this press conference. So he got the opportunity, nobody's asking you questions he gets to completely control. What is said and how it said, and so he got his nine ten minutes of time where he got to say what he wants say? But completely reluctantly, and I think it was if I do this, maybe I can avoid going in front of congress took back to the original question of whether it was referral to congress. I didn't get to watch in real time because I was on this airplane in the rough, you are fine. But are then want this afternoon. And before I watched I read the statement, and I was really struck by something in the report itself, and then I've been harping on for many weeks. And look, the report is very long, born in four hundred forty eight pages for forty eight pages single space, and this was a short statement, I have it printed out at about three pages and change. So it's interesting what he's chooses to repeat again. And he says, even though it's the case that the officer legal counsel has to opinions and said, you candidate indicted, sitting president, the opinion explicitly permits, the investor. Gatien of a sitting president, because it is important to preserve evidence, while memories are fresh and documents are available. And then he says the opinion says that the constitution requires a process other than the criminal Justice system to formally accuse a sitting president of wrongdoing. He put those two things together. Yes, why do you have to do investigation at all? If you knew from the outset that you can't prosecute because he's a sitting president, you do it, because maybe there to other kinds of prosecutions that can happen, one, not really a prosecution, but a constitutional process of impeachment, and the other is some future actual prosecutor who will, you know, be indebted to the special counsel, team because they did their investigation while memories are fresh and documents are available. And so this process that he refers to that. The opinion itself at makes explicit reference to, to get around this issue that has bothered people and makes people very upset that no person is supposed to be above the law. Everyone is to be able to be held accountable and the opinion that says, you candidates, sitting president makes it very clear that the reason why that shouldn't freak people out is that you have. Other thing, and it's called congress, and it's called the process of impeachment and Bob Muller explicitly refers to it. And so I think it's a little closer to referral to congress, but it's a part and parcel of Muller's, extreme minimalism. Yes. I in not wanting to say the thing he didn't wanna say although he meant it. He didn't wanna say congress at share job now with their other things he didn't want to say he didn't wanna say Bill bar. Totally mucked it up. Yeah. I believe. Absolutely Bob Muller things Bill bar mucked it up. I think absolutely he believes congress should take a look. I think absolutely. He believes that there is sufficient evidence to bring a criminal case of obstruction. But in each of those categories, and there may be others. He thinks to himself, while it's not my job to say that thing. Right. And I don't know that he even thinks he's engaging in subtext. He'd I don't think he does at all is right. He is. And, and one of the things I noticed before I had to think, after I watch his statement, I read it and I had to think about what he was saying in a number of play. And what it really meant, and that is, whether he intends it or not. And I don't think he intends it, it is sub like, we're sort of figuring out what did he choose to talk about? What didn't he choose to talk about? And how do they talk about it? And then we're trying to understand what that means which is complicated. Yeah. It is. Can I had one other thing too that list? You had two reasons to do an investigation. The third, I would add is that other people can be charged. And so even if the president could not be charged, and I think we shouldn't was light of the fact that a number of other people have been charged. And how critical that is so on this question of whether or not the mullahs report was a referral to congress. I think we agree. I agree, not in so many words, do you, and I also agree that those who say that they take it as essentially effectively referral in congress makes its own decision about what information exists in the world at the end of the day, it actually doesn't matter what Bob Muller intens, he's one man who ran a special counsel's office in, by the way, we should thank him for his service and shake the rest of the service should have said that the outset. And it's not up to him. I would like to know what his intention was. And I think people put a lot of stock in what is intent was, but it doesn't sort of matter, and now congress can decide based on what has been put forth to act or not act. So I think the people who were saying they take the Muller reports referral. It doesn't matter if it was or not. But I think they can make those statements in good faith. What's really clear that Muller has laid out an incredible amount of evidence. He's made a wrecker and factual findings that congress can use as a decision maker, this question of whether, and how they hold the president accountable, and so you're right. Whether or not Muller intended that as a referral to congress specifically, I mean, I wanna be sensitive on that, he did do you think he intended anything, this is what I want to be sensitive. I think Muller to your point was so careful of not wanting to put his thumb on the scale he didn't wanna put his thumb on the scale of public opinion. He didn't wanna put his thumb on the scale of what decision congress makes and so he's trying so hard to be neutral that in some ways what he's trying to. Basically say is here. This is for the American public, this is for congress. I'm out, but it does lead to this point where you and I are sitting here, sort of speculating about what he intended. So on the question that is occupying, a lot of people. Is it proper to indicted sitting president? And you and I spent a lot of time here and elsewhere, talking about the to oversee opinions, the one in nineteen Seventy-three and the one in two thousand and Bob Muller said something in his statement today that I've seen for the few minutes, I was watching television before rushing over here. People are making a big deal of on the question of whether or not president can be charged with a crime while in office. He says that is unconstitutional, my view, when you may have a different one is the people overreacting to that statement. Because if you look at what he said, in context, he says, we did not make a determination as to whether the president did commit a crime and then explains referring back to the mullahs report, which explains that under longstanding, the -partment policy is referring to the policy, the all CPN's, a president cannot be charged with a federal crime while he is in office and. Then he says that is unconstitutional. I take that to mean that's what the opinion say and people who haven't read the opinion think it's sort of a policy, but yet it is, it's a policy in the guideline. But it's based on that offices interpretation of the constitution. So the opinion says it is unconstitutional to indict a sitting president, what do you make of his day? So I, I had the same reaction that I think a lot of people did when he first said it, which is, is that, Bob Muller, telling me that he Bob Muller, and the special counsel's office thinks it's unconstitutional to indict a sitting president. Or he telling me that. That's the opinion. I openly having read this now ten times. I think you're right. That what he what he meant is that this is the -partment policy. Right. And the sentence begins. It explains that under longstanding department policy. It president cannot be charged with a federal crime, as you just said, that is unconstitutional. I think he is referring to the policy, but it did jar me when I first heard him say it, which is like to flash statement. Yeah. Because I, I don't agree that it is unconstitutional. And by the way, the courts have not said that it's unconstitutional. That's the United States. Department of Justice, making their own policy as to what they can and cannot do. And so I, I was jarred by it. But I think upon reading that multiple times. You know, why else I think it's not Bob Muller speaking for himself. He just never does. I mean, there's yes, it would be really interesting. If this was the one spot that he made a legal determination is a very interesting post. Oracle discussion, what? Everyone says speaks clearly, we're all have nothing better to do than to parse. Each word look, he could very easily said, according to that policy. It would be constitutional. So he chooses his words carefully. I can guarantee you the remaining people personnel in the special counsel's office spent a lot of time on every single one of these words and Bob Muller himself do because he had to speak them. But this goes to now another question that I have maybe doesn't burn up other people, but it makes me very curious. And I tweeted out this really today when did the special counsel's office determine that given the longstanding policy that is unconstitutional. The standing interpretation that is unconstitutional to indicted, sitting president, when did the special counsel's office, basically agree adopt that position internally was it on day one. And it seems to me it's arguable that it was on day, one clear policy. He's, you know, a minimalist he's conservative with a small c and if they decided to years ago, we'll look, part of our mandate is to investigate what obstruction in the wake of the firing of Jim Komi and one of the people we're going to investigate for obstruction? Is in fact, the president of the United States, and they knew two years ago. I'm curious to know if that's true. Because if that's so you can make an argument that in the midst of speculation from a lot of people, you and I have been consistent in saying, we did not believe the Bob, Mueller would indicted sitting president, because that guidance but that was speculation on our part. I don't know that it would have been inappropriate to make clear to the public that investigation was going to be undertaken. But no one should have an expectation coming from Bob, Muller's office, not from you and me. But coming from Bob ballers office, no, one should expect an indictment because this policy that came as a little bit of a surprise to a lot of people. And I'm not sure they made that determination on the first day, what do you think? So I don't know. We're speculating is always, but I think that if I were sitting in an office like that, or you were sitting in an office, like that, you would be thinking, okay. Let's do the Russia investigation. And when it comes to obstruction, I think it would have come up, maybe not day one, but it would have come up pretty quickly as to the question of what do you do about the president? Can you charge him should you investigate it? If you can't. Charge him should you conduct the investigation. That's really important because people are saying that no, let's say very early on. Maybe not. They one but like they eleven you realize there's back to the president who never gonna be able to bring a charge. What's the purpose? And it seems to me that we've already discussed what the purposes of purposes to put it in the record for someone else after he leaves office. That's another reason why I think it must be sort of an influential referral to congress and because there's a possibility of other people being involved in the crime. And maybe they could be charged even if the president can't be, but look leads to the question from a lot of people wide, you waste all our time. One of the things Muller said today that I don't think he said before, and I thought was really important was talking about why we investigate obstruction of Justice and how important it is to get the truth in the American criminal Justice system. And I will read you and it was said for a purpose, Robert Muller said it was critical for us to obtain full and accurate information from every person, we questioned when a subject of an investigation obstructs that investigation or lies to investigators. It strikes at the core of the government's effort to find the truth, and hold wrongdoer. Accountable. So that's something that, that Muller pointed out in my view. And I think in your view tube, there's a huge incentive for that to be investigated to understand obstruction. You're right about preserving evidence taking witness statements. You're, you're right. Also about potential charges after the president leaves office. But again, it's also possible that other people would have been charged with obstruction of Justice, when you walk into an investigation, as you and I, both know you don't know what you'll find you don't know what charges you'll be able to bring necessarily who you'll be able to bring them against. And so I don't judge Robert Muller harshly for not, you know, sort of flying a flag saying owned, by the way, we're never going to charge, you, Mr President publicly to no, pretender the special counsel. And you begin this investigation, you know, it's going to take a while, maybe it's gonna take a couple of years and you have determined that you can't bring a charge against the president. But you are in the world you live in the world. And you hear that lots of people are speculating about a charge of the president. A lot of people are actually putting their hopes on that because he. Don't want the president and a lot of other people are thinking will your crazed maniac. If you're thinking, you're gonna win the president over this Russia hoc stuff that the president keeps talking about. But in either event apart from a small core of, you know, sort of legal experts who were not much listen to in this process. You have tens of millions of people thinking at the end of the day, there could be an indictment of the president, and you know, that there's not going to be, would you have thought about making some disclosure to the public directly or indirectly, so that you might tamp down this outsized crazed speculation of whether or not the president of the United States was going to be hauled off in handcuffs? I want to respond by saying a few different things here. First of all, if I was rather special counsel, I would not answer question, because I would not be speaking, and I would be speaking to empty chairs that would be podcast would be much worse, there just to be clear. But let's separate this stuff out the first question is, whether the president could be charged. But there's another really important question. Here that I don't necessarily think Muller answered on day, one or day eleven which was should he make a determination as to whether or not crimes were committed, and they are two different things. And so, I think when we're watching the media and Twitter, everyone's conflating it into the O L C opinion says that you can't charge a sitting president. And so that's why you say nothing Muller was really clear today and saying, there's an opinion that says we can't charge. And as a matter of fundamental fairness since I can't charge someone I'm not going to go out and make this determination, which is a public accusation of the president and the president doesn't get his day in court. So I think the right question is, when did he make that decision? So, and I went on for a bit to hear the rest of our analysis on special counsel, Muller's first public statement, become a member of Kathy insider at cafe dot com slash insider, an end, and I will have even more to say, on Mondays episode of the caffeine side or podcast. So if you haven't signed up, yet head to cafe dot com slash insider today. My guest this week is Andrew Yang. He hasn't approved this message but he did come to talk to me on my podcast. If you haven't heard Andrew Yang is one of the candidates currently running for the democratic nomination for president of America, Andrew nine discuss the formative years of facing childhood bullies the mechanics of his freedom dividend. Which, yes, you heard it correctly, the first time, we'll give American citizens of thousand dollars a month to offset financial stress and what qualifies him to be the next leader of the free world. That's coming up. Stay tuned. Stay tuned is supported by the New Yorker. The best writing in America today, both online, and in print, the New Yorker covers unique subjects like the world's diminishing supply of sand and deep dive into heirloom beans, along with a full range of topics, including politics, international affairs climate change. Pop culture and humor. The New Yorker also publishes some of the best writers in the world, like Jane Mayer an investigative journalists and staff writer for the New Yorker since nine hundred five Jane was my guest on stay tuned last fall around the time of the breath, cabinet confirmation hearings. Just days after may broke a story about allegations against Cavanaugh now. Stay tuned listeners get twelve weeks of home delivery of the print addition as well as unlimited access to New Yorker dot com with ten to fifteen exclusive site only stories every day for just six dollars. That's half the regular price. You'll also get a New Yorker tote bag as well as access to apps online archives. Crossword puzzle and more just go to New Yorker dot com slash Prete and enter the code Prete. Andrew yang. Welcome to the show. Thanks for having me pretty, it's a pleasure to be here. So you're running for president. Yes, I am. I'm doing quite well by many accounts. You are lots of interest in your campaign. You've been able to raise a lot of money. But can ask you one sort of first level background question. Of course. Explain a term to us. What is the Yang gang? The, the Yang gang is the moniker for people that support my presidential campaign on the internet in particular. So there's a hashtag gang gang. And if you search in that has tied you'll see a multitude of memes, and people trying to educate others about some of the ideas behind my campaign, very lucky for you. The Yang rhymes with something like gang. I know a name Berrara Berrara, Guerrara doesn't really work. No. Which is why I'm not. I'm sure there are a lot of people that want you to run even without. All right. I was not born in this country. So I cannot. But you know what I can do. You know, you don't have to be natural born citizen to post a podcast. It's everyone in America, wherever you come from Norway, or an S whole country, you can host a podcast. So that's what I'm doing. So a lot of people know who you are. But they're folks who do not. So who the hell are you? You know, I think your background in mine or not that dissimilar. I'm the son of immigrants met in graduate school at Berkeley. I was born in Schenectady, New York. My father was a physicist for Jian IBM. So I thought everyone's dad was a PHD, right? No, I went to Brown and Columbia for law school. Like you did wasn't unhappy corporate attorney for five months and then left to start an ill-fated dot com. Business, then worked in startups and businesses for ten years, or so really the biggest sharp left turn if you will my education company grew to become number one in the US, and it was acquired and two thousand nine and that was. The week of the financial crisis, which was a very bleak time. I had literally been training kids at Goldman Sachs and Chafee Morgan and McKinsey than I thought that the problem was that people who'd gone to the fancy schools, all went to Wall Street became financial wizards tech, wizards or management consultants, then, so I thought, well, what they should be doing is starting businesses and places like Detroit Cleveland Baltimore, Saint Louis Birmingham. And so, I started organization to help train entrepreneurs in those environments, then it was really during those seven years that I directly encountered, the aftermath of the automation of jobs in the midwest and the south. And I'm certain that the reason why Donald Trump's our president today is that we automated away for a million manufacturing jobs in Michigan. Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin. So imagine being the entrepreneur, who had helped create several thousand jobs in the midwest and the south, who is being celebrated for it. And then seeing that the title way was heading the other direction. So that's how I came to run for president. That's a nice summary, and history of the arc of your career. I don't wanna go back to childhood a little bit. You've been very open about your childhood euro, one very few Asian-Americans where you grew up. Yes. And you talk about being bullied. Yeah, that's not a term that was really us back when you and I were young. No, I was I really haven't talked about this much. But I'm interested, why you, you try to fight back and what you thought was affective about in how it's made you the person you are today. So I was one of the loan Asian kids in my school. And I'd also skipped a grade. So imagine being your scrawny or. And I bet I was stronger than you were. Wow. We should bust out the photos compare. Thank god. This is audio. So this was the eighties, the cultural inputs at the time where like long duck Dong sixteen candles. Hot stuff. Tune in like that's the way the class like there was this kid who just say that to me all the time. That's the way the group laughs. And so as the skinny Asian kid, getting picked on, I felt like, well, I guess, my choices are either just take it or fight back. So I decided to fight back and I would regularly lose those fights because I was a fight back. You mean physically. Yeah. Physically, I would just be like, all right. I guess it's time to fight again. And so, then I'd I'd fight and lose your yearbook. Yeah. I get my butt kicked. I got my book how on up? Lose. I would like to know it wasn't like a regular occurrence. There'd be like a month where it would happen several times. And then, like, what age group was from approximately elementary school through junior high and like you're okay at Columbia law school Columbia law school. I regularly engage in fisticuffs town. Okay. Yeah. No kidding aside, did the teachers help you. This is one of the things I'm very confused about pre because, like, I remember when I was growing up. Probably same as you all is cast ensued between kids in middle school age and your high. I don't remember teachers intervening very often in. No. I don't. Yeah. You don't. There were times. I remember once being on a bus on the field trip going to the planetarium. I really don't talk about this stuff, but I just I was very moved by the fact that you talk about it. And here you are running for president of the United States, if you can do it, then I can talk about a little bit also in, I remember being on his boss, and it's an hour long ride there were kids who were spitting at me like smacking on the back of the head, and calling me names, some of which were derivative of the N word because I'm Brown and all I wanted, was for teacher to tell them to stop. And there was a teacher on the bus didn't do anything that's strange. It doesn't strike me as strange having grown up in a similar era. And so, to me, one of the big question marks is what's happening today in schools? I think that there is this depiction that these things are not happening, but I'm sure they are just because kids are kids in humans humans. And I think there's like a very basic juvenile impulse to single out people who are different in certain ways. The thing that moved me about your. Russian's of being bullied was that you said it is always caused you to think about the underdog, then the little guy, the little person because that's the same for me. People might be surprised that I was really, really shy. And I had these issues when I was a kid, and then I grew up and became when most powerful prosecutors in the country. Yes. And you became a successful business person in her having a rollicking time running for president United States of America. It can be very easy to think you don't remember what it's like to not be successful. Or what's like to not be popular to not be light for me. It's been very formative in how I think about the world. You know, I felt myself to be that marginalized Asian kid throughout my tire life. And so whenever there was a gathering of people five notice, someone who seem like they're out of place. I would naturally gravitate towards them. I might be one of the least extroverted presidential candidates. Recent memory because, you know, like I on my route, I was like, bookish Asian kid, who just like to read fantasy novels and play dungeons and dragons with my older brother who's now academic. And so, I think if you had to go back to your childhood, and I'll ask anyone to do it growing up in going elementary school in grade schools, tough, but given your experiences, if you had to go back, would you have handled it differently, who it's hard to know because when you're like the scared shy kid mean you don't have that many tools in the tool kit? Has happened with you. I mean, we went through these formative very unpleasant experiences, but then they end up shaping even various ways. So I just can't imagine what I would have done differently because, you know, it's like you only have one history, it's one of the big things because you're a parent, I'm a parent, and you look at your own kids, in Elliott, certainly don't think my boys are going to grow up with the exact same form of. Are, you know, bullying that I've experienced but then there's part of me that looks at them, and it's like, well, how are you going to come of age? It's like what does it mean to grow up in a society that is at least on some levels more accepting of people of different backgrounds? Everything is obviously, my kids are growing up in more diverse environment than I did area and the air is different too, because only three TV channels. And right now, it's like everything looks the same on TV well and their Asian people on TV. And if people literally didn't know what to call me. So I would say was from India and I would get ask. So does your family live in a teepee? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. And literally people would say to me, I'm indian-american, obviously, and Asian Americans. Interesting term in the United States because there's lots of countries in Asia. Some people don't consider indian-americans to be from Asia because it South Asia, and there's less sort of overlapping culture, and bless overlapping origin, and I will get asked. Why don't you move back to China? I don't I don't know that, that would be where I would move back to. Well, you know, I didn't get into fights because I was I was so scrawny that I you my odds were very low, although I did a couple of times because you lose patients, what I did was try to develop comeback. And so, maybe that's why you became with the that's, that's actually pretty awesome. I wouldn't say, yeah. Because all I had was if you could embarrass the bad kid who was treating you poorly, but was bigger and stronger, and wider. If you could humiliate them with a taught or a joke, they might stop because of other people to laugh at that person. That was that was the only weapon I had while, so interesting. I, I did not. You're you win. Right for the jugular. I guess. Right. Right. For the, the beating. We need more nerds in politics. I certainly do. I think one of the stats, I saw was that there are three trained engineers or scientists in congress right now. And we got rid of the office of technology assessment in nineteen ninety five twenty four years ago. So they've literally been completely devoid of any technology advice or guidance that didn't come straight from industry, so we could certainly use more nerds in government, and you are a nerd at my correct. You don't have a science degree law degree dislike me. I know. But I certainly would consider myself a nerd. Yes. You have made a lot of the fact that we have ever increasing technology and automation in this country. And that, that automation leads to lots of things including Ilya nation of people who are in professions, where their jobs have gone missing. If you look at the voting district data, there's a direct correlation between the adoption of industrial robots in an area and the movement towards Trump. Those industrial robots were centered in Michigan Ohio, Pennsylvania. Wisconsin, Missouri Iowa swing states that Trump needed to win. And when you go to these environments, you see that there's a real void that has not been filled in, and now you see massive levels of substance abuse, and opioid overdoses in those communities and what happened there is now going to happen to American communities around the country, thirty percent of malls and mainstream stores are closing in the next four years. What's that based on? On the thirty percent or eighty percent. Oh, so that's just real estate industry. Reports who started the retail sector say that thirty percent of American malls are going to struggle and fail over the next four years. And then there's another thirty percent that might fail. Somebody say that's a good thing. We have we have too many malls, come on. You grew up in Nigeria. I grew up. From the mama th mall in Eden town. New Jersey I did. So we were somewhat overbuilt in retail. But then you have to reckon with the fact that working as a retail cashier is the most common job in the US economy. The average retail workers at thirty nine year old woman making ten dollars an hour. So if you say and say, hey, do you many malls, that's close their percent of them? Then you're looking at literally hundreds of thousands of low-skilled American workers who are doing those jobs to get by. So then what is their next move in a country, where they don't have much in the way of savings, and if those stores and malls close, it's not like they're going to be other stores and malls hiring. So looking back to robots per second. Are you anti robot? Well, I'm very pro progress, and I consider robots part of progress. But you have to be honest, and say, if I'm living in a part of the country where my main streets closing, and I don't have a path forward, and it's partially because of robots am I gonna like robots. We have to try and make it. So that Americans are actually sharing the this sense of progress instead of having the economic rewards. Contrated in the hands of fewer and fewer of us. I want to get to this idea of people losing jobs. And it's a guiding principle of yours in some of the policy proposals that you've made including the central tenant. I think of your candidacy, which is the universal basic income bowed. I guess is confusing, maybe to some people is we had the lowest unemployment rate. We've had in decades this alarmist talk about the loss of jobs, whether it's from robots or technology or anything else, it's very small given. How low unemployment is. How do you square, the fact of low and employment with this bleak picture that you're painting we have three primary economic measurements that we rely upon in the media today? Number one is GDP. Number two, is headline unemployment number three is stock market prices. Now, if you flash back to two thousand fifteen Donald Trump's running for president, and what does he say about that unemployment number? He says, it's fake. He says it doesn't reflect what's happening in communities around the country. Now that he's president, of course, tall taking credit for it. Yeah. It's great. He was right. The first time. Unfortunately now while we're trumpeting this very low headline unemployment number everything. It's like three point seven percent at the same time. Our labor force participation rate is also at essentially a multi decade, low of sixty three percent the same levels as Costa Rica, and Ecuador. And that's right now in the good times of your ten of an expansion, almost one out of five prime working age. American men has not worked in a year by till you're saying it's just people understand the unemployment rate that we always talk about on the news is a function of the number of folks who are actively seeking work and want to work. Yes. But there are large numbers of people, you're saying who have given up on working. Yeah. Call discouraged discouraged workers. So from your perspective, what is the better index for how employment is faring in the country at the moment? So if you use something called the use six, which includes people who are discouraged or trying to cling to the workforce. Then you have a rate. That's more in, like the mid to high single digits, maybe six or seven percents of the. Three point seven. And if you look at the rate of people who are living in what's called like financial insecurity. Seventy eight percent of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck fifty seven percent can afford unexpected five hundred dollar Bill. Some of them were telling stats in my view are labor force participation rate, again, close to a multi decade low and levels of underemployment, that is people who are doing jobs that are not what they theoretically qualified for. So have you graduated from college with thirty eight in debt and you become a barista you count as employed? I mean that that's like you've got a job, but forty four percent of recent college graduates are in a job that does not require a college degree. So if you go to them and say, hey, great news, you're employed. They'll be like, what are you talking about? I'm like this massive debt load, and I'm doing this temp job with no benefits, but you count as employed ninety four percent of the new jobs created in the US economy since two thousand five have been temporary Giger contractor jobs. That's one reason why you have so many Americans are working multiple jobs to get by. So Donald Trump diagnosed this problem while he was a candidate and then as president, it hasn't really changed for many Americans, but he's singing different tune going back to this idea of automation. I wanna make sure I understand your, your view of it. Are you just being descriptive in saying, well, we have automation, I'm pro technology and pro progress and it causes these problems that we have to deal with. Or you also saying something normative that automation is not good. Well, I think unchecked automation, where only a handful of Americans enjoy the benefits is not good. And that's where we are right now where Amazon's paying zero in federal taxes, while they're getting rid of thirty percent of brick and mortar retail jobs. So if you live in some rural area, your stores, your mainstream clothes, and there's nothing coming back to you really just the jobs and my had used to be, they're gone, and the trillion dollar companies paying zero back into the public coffers. That's not a great situation. That's where we are right now. Job wise. Right. But there are other things we talk about including you didn't. You didn't mention one of the. Things that we focus on to gauge the success of the economy, the GDP unemployment, and the stock market. There's this other thing, which is not as important, I presume utility to consumers and efficiency for consumers. The fact that Amazon has caused all these stores to shutdown is there, some argument that offsetting that is the tremendous amount of utility is brought to tens of millions of Americans. I love my EMS on prime account like I love communities as much as the next guy. But one of the things I say is look access to cheap goods and cool apps per very cold comfort when you're a factory closes, or your main street closes, and you're looking around, not knowing what to do. So I'm very, very pro progress writ large, but I've even more pro progress if more Americans like they were sharing in that progress. And if you talk about progress in the manufacturing sector our manufacturing sector went from seventeen million to twelve million workers over fifteen year period, two thousand two thousand fifteen and. Eighty percent of those lost five million jobs were due to technology and automation. If you go to a factory today, it is not walled wall immigrants. And I know you would agree with this, that we are scapegoating immigrants or something, they have next to nothing to do with it's wall to wall, machines and robot arms. And so if you're a manufacturing worker, are you supposed to be celebrating progress while you get sent home. And I looked into I started economics in college, according to economic theory, those four million manufacturing workers would find new jobs. Get retrained re skilled and the commun- would go all would be, well, but in real life, half of them left the workforce, and never worked again. And of that group have filed for disability to the point where now there are more Americans on disability than working in construction, as one comparison. And then you saw coincident surges and suicides and drug overdoses to a point where life expectancy overall has declined for three years in a row that shocking last time American life expectancy declined for three years in a row was the Spanish flu of nineteen eighteen so here we are cheerleading. These GDP stats while our people are dying. Younger of the darkest causes of death. You can imagine essentially, so it just goes to show how disconnected these statistics are from our people's reality. I want to get to your signature proposal in a second. But before I do that I want to note that you have lots and lots of specific policy ideas. In fact, the cafe team put together a long list of your policies, we'll get some of them, so there's a whole you can see there's a whole jeez gang. I think the number right now is like something like one hundred and seven hundred there's a range among your adversaries who were vying for the nomination. Some say that at one is you Andrew Yang and Elizabeth Warren was a lot of policy proposals at the other end. There are people who are a little less specific. Now. They say they will roll out more concrete policy proposals the only other presidential candidate. We've had on the shows people to judge who is beginning to roll out some policies, but has made the point that at this stage of the race, I want people to get to know me, and I want people to understand what values I'm trying to promote answer to the general themes. And my candidacy, you have gone a different way. Why I think the best way to introduce Americans to who I am is to see what I would do as president. And so if you have over one hundred policies, laid out, you get sense of a vision for the country, and then there's some values behind that vision, as, you know, my signature proposal is freedom dividend of one thousand dollars a month for every American adult freedom dividend. Sounds better than you BI. It tests better to universal basic income. Yeah. Yeah. Freedom. Sounds a little bit. Like, like it could be a disease. Yeah. UTI. Yeah. So freedom dividend is much, much better. So the freedom dividend is universal basic income by which the government would pay according to your proposal, a thousand dollars a month to whom to every American adults starting at age eighteen. So whether you have one adult household, or two adult household, if you had to adults both adults get the thousand dollars. Yes, that's correct. And until when until death until death, and whether you're citizen are not citizens, only, but I'm for a path to citizenship for people who are here with green cards, I'd before a very expeditious Pathe's citizenship, because I know a lot of volun- friends with green cards. You've been waiting for a while. Right. But I'm not talking about a document. I mean, people who are legal residents of the United States of America, would not get thousands dollars a month until they become citizen. That's right. Why oh, you have to set a threshold and citizenship seemed to be the appropriate one because at that point, you are now actually paying taxes. And I know many of the residents are obviously paying taxes. Well, but you're full fledged member of the society with all of the bene. Bits and obligations. I'm very much for legal residents. Adopting citizenship. Every time that happens in someone's cool. I'm like us main America cooler like Mesa happy, but only citizens should receive some of the dividend from our showed progress, delete all residents. Get social security so good question digging it. I believe you probably actually I'm. You're paying social security as you have to if you're an employee in this country, then you get you get the payout from social security. So. And that's why I just wonder why you would leave off, you know, tens of millions of people from the universal basic income. I don't think there are tens of millions of legal residents in the US. Well, there, I do know that the figure for undocumented alone is somewhere between nine and twelve million. Yes. But legal residents, I would assume is more, but will research this. Yeah, we should research it. I think legal residents is, is less than the undocumented number. But, you know, I'm for again, a path to citizenship for people who are here and undocumented, we need to try and integrate people in society, but this in many ways is like a very powerful incentive to make citizenship more meaningful. So let's go back to the freedom dividend why thousand bucks and has many benefits? And this is not my original proposal, that was championed by guy named and eastern who used to run the SEI you, then it was studied. Yes. The largest labor union in the country representing service employees then studied by the Roosevelt institute, a thousand dollars a month has some tremendous qualities. It would be a difference maker for. Tens of millions of American families. It would make our children stronger healthier, better nourished, it would make us all mentally healthier. It would create over two million new jobs in the economy, according to the Roosevelt institute because of increased consumer demand. But it's below the poverty line in the United States, which is twelve thousand seven hundred seventy dollars a year and it doesn't distort our labor markets that dramatically because no one's going to be able to retire one thousand dollars a month. So that's why it's not five hundred dollars up too little and that's why it's not two thousand dollars because that costs more in be thinking distorts the labor market's. Yeah, that's right. When that means test. Well, there's one state, that's had a dividend in effect for almost forty years that states Alaska where everyone in the state gets between one and two thousand dollars a year from oil money. No questions asked. What I'm saying in my campaign is that technology is the oil of the twenty-first, century, and that what they're doing Alaska with oil money we can do for everyone. But one reason why it's so wildly popular in Alaska is that you just get it. There's no means testing. It's universal. And this is an. Publican conservative state. It was a Republican governor that passed it in the US, if we make this, a right of citizenship, then they'll become much more universally liked. There's no stigma attached to actually getting the dividend because it's not a rich to poor transfers. So it's not like, oh I'm giving it to you. You get it. I don't get it. You get rid of all the administration and monitoring requirements change of circumstances. There's no timing of payments issue because I don't need to figure out how much money you made. There's no negative incentive to say. Oh, I made below a certain threshold. You get rid of a lot of stuff and you make it much more universally appealing. It's one reason why this dividend in Alaska has stood the test of time in his wildly popular, despite being there for almost forty years. So everyone gets it. If you'll Rockefeller, if you're Trump, if you're in basis, or if you're impoverished, yes, that's right. That's fair. In a way, you could say that's the fairest we could do is that if we're all owners, and citizens and shareholders of the society, and we all get a dividend of one thousand dollars a month. You can interpret that as as being quite fair. Though the way I want to fund this is by putting a mechanism in place so that it was on dozen pays zero in taxes next year because that's unsustainable taxes on Amazon is not going to pay with the estimates are three trillion dollars a year for the basic income. So here's how you pay for it. Our is up to twenty trillion dollars up five trillion in the last twelve years. We're the richest country in the history of the world, but we're not measuring and taxing the right things. And one of the things I say is like look, Jeff Bezos is worth one hundred sixty billion dollars. It doesn't matter what you make the income tax level because he's never selling his Amazon stock. He's never going to have a taxable event. You know, it's like he's too smart, frankly, like if you increase the tax rate to seventy percents like he's not gonna all of a sudden, like give you billions of dollars in new revenue. So the way you get the revenue from someone like Jeff is you join every other advanced economy in the world, and you have a value added tax, which would then give the American public tiny slice of every Amazon sale, every Google search every Facebook ad. And soon every robot truck mile and because our economies now, so vast at twenty trillion even a mild value added tax generates over eight hundred billion in new revenue, how mild ten percent, which would be half the European level. And you don't think that, that also has its own negative effects on the economy. Well, it has it has many positive effects in the economy because it actually gives us a segment of the value that's being produced and distributed. And again, every other advanced economy in the world has already taken this step because they know it's perverse for a company like Amazon to sell tens hundreds of billions of dollars in goods and pays zero in taxes. What you say the people who suggest that the sort of giveaway of money as opposed to expanding tax credit or having some form of means testing that is giving folks money, whether they work or not, whether they earned it or not in some ways undermines the dignity of work. Well, that's one of the misconceptions. It's actually very pro work again. It creates a couple of million jobs in the economy. And so here's the magic to it. So you have this that we're getting this money. Where does the money go? Oh, the money goes right back into our homes and communities, it ends up creating jobs, right there with our local businesses, but also superchargers, nonprofits and religious organizations, it makes it so that people like my wife, who's at home with our two boys. One of whom is artistic I mean that's playing out in families and communities around the country, where right now, we talk about empowering women, what would empower women is if they had the economic freedom to improve their situations and walk away from exploited over abusive jobs in relationships, which thousand dollars a month would actually help them do. So it's pro working and recognizes the work that's actually being done in our families and communities each day. It also ends up being a catalyst to arts creativity. Entrepreneurship your brothers and entrepreneur and entrepreneur, it's very, very rare that someone's on their last legs economically, and then they say you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna start a business. The way it works getting twelve thousand dollars a year transformed someone from being. Sort of sitting around the house, the deciding suddenly, they're gonna start a business. Well, again, you have to look at the cumulative effects. So if you have a town of one hundred thousand people, and then there's an additional twelve million dollars being spent in that community every month, then it's not just that I have this in bucks a month. So I'm going to start a bakery. But now that bakery, makes a lot more sense in my town because now like the people there will be like, hey, I like Andrews cupcakes. I don't make cupcakes though. I should I think you should think about them for the trail. I think the Yang gang would occasionally like cupcakes this. So, so it ends up being essentially like a reversal of the current mindset and environment of scarcity that, unfortunately, much of our country has fallen into. And so this is the trickle up a Konami from people and families, and communities up the money doesn't disappear we get it back as it circulates over and over is this socialism, it's capitalism where income does not start at zero. And as a CEO I will tell you that it's much better for the economy when people have money to spend what do you think about the term socialism and the debate about socialism? And one of your adversaries running for the presidency. Bernie Sanders in his views, I think the entire socialism, capitalism dichotomy is out of date. And I like to quote, one of my friends, Eric Weinstein, who said that. We never knew that capitalism was going to get eaten by it son, technology capital of trying to picture that visualize. Okay, got it. So here's what he means by that. We're all Suming that our economy's still works like it did in the seventies. Where if I start a successful company, I have to hire lots of people have to treat them. Well, I have to pay them. Well, and I care about what happens in my own backyard today. None of those things is true. I can sort of successful company, not hire many people if I hire them, they could just be a handful of highly specialized workers, they can be temp workers. I don't care about how much they make I don't care. What happens in my backyard 'cause I sell everywhere. So all of the relationships you take for granted. It's like, oh, if I get these companies bottom lines to be more profitable. They'll hire an invest. They're not going to hire an invest. By spoke to seventy CEO's in New York. And I said, how many of you are looking at having AI replaced islands of your workers every hand went up and you could actually fire that CEO of they didn't employ AI to get rid of those workers? So if you put more money into the hands of that company does that mean they're going to go around and hire thousands more high school graduates, and like rebuild main streets around the country, of course, not we have to wise up to the fact that when the twenty first century and the best way to build an economy that works for us is through something like the freedom dividend is that of reaching back into our past for twentieth century solutions? How much support is there for the freedom dividend in the current house of representatives, and the Senate? Well, it's going to be much much higher after. I'm in the White House twenty twenty one but why will that be because by definition you will have had a mandate because that's the issue in which you would have been elected. That's right. And the Democrats and progressives will be like, oh my gosh. Thank goodness, Hanjiang beat Donald Trump. And he's our president. And let's work with him to pass his dividend. Because it'll put more money into the hands of children and family. But here's the fun thing through Republicans and conservatives and libertarians and independence. I'm going to look up and say, wait a minute. This dividends, a huge win for rural areas red states on the interior communities that have been devastated by automation. Am I really going to stand in the way of, of Andrew Yang and where my constituents in this dividend? And so we're going to pass the dividend when I'm in the White House, Americans are going to be shocked that the government did something right for a change. They're going to look up and then we're gonna see what else we can get done. But on the way to getting there, obviously from the vision of hindsight, assuming you get elected things will have had to happen, that would necessarily have to have made the freedom dividend as you call it incredibly popular. And you ride on a wave of popularity that's universal essentially to the White House, which would seem to presuppose that along the way between now and election day. Not just average Americans, but also people who are in a position to make endorsements including view would come along, and say, you know what I've been listening to Andrew talk about the premium dividend and the basic income, and I'm on board. And i'm. Vinced is that happening all that is happening. You just met Steve Marsh, and who ran for governor in New Hampshire, as a democrat, and he just came out and endorsed me, and there's so many politicians who are deeply interested in universal basic income. They're trying to see how warm the water is the them to come out for it. Any Alaskan politicians indoors you? I'm in touch with the Mike gravel team. Gods? So there's a very high level of interest and this is going to be one thing that the people can help with is that as universal basic income becomes already very popular among a majority of Democrats at young people and progressives. But as it sweeps, the nation than obviously, more politicians, we'll get with the program and say this is a much better move than anything else. We're talking about. Let's move on to a related issue economic burden that a lot of folks have, and that's higher education. There was a very moving story that I've talked about, and lots of people have noticed around the country where you have a billionaire, Robert Smith, who decided to as surprise, giving the commencement address at Morehouse college say, I'm gonna take care of all your student. That's is great for the class of twenty eight hundred dollars that school and some might say, well, it's a wonderful story. It's very heartwarming and it's great for those people. But you know what does it say that you have to rely on that kind of fortuity and graciousness on the part of somebody who's made a billion dollars? What are you gonna do for people with respect to school debt? We should wipe out a lot of that student loan debt. Not just for the people go hang and do that because you've got the three trillion on the on the freedom dividend. Well, so on the freedom dividend couple things. So we get a lot of the money back and I cannot make growth in new activity. We also save billions of dollars on incarceration homelessness services. Emergency room healthcare things we spend a trillion dollars on right now that I was with a prison guard in New Hampshire very politician. He of me, I know but I was with a prison guard New Hampshire, who said we should pay people to stay out of jail because when they're in jail, we spent so much on them, we're going to save a lot of money and the fourth thing is there's one estimate that we would increase our GDP by seven hundred billion dollars by dominating this plan just on the basis of better health than education, and mental health outcomes for people, but you're, you're actually getting a lot of the value back. So you're asking how can we forgive the student loan debt wept at one point five trillion in student loan debt up from less than one hundred billion in nineteen ninety nine? So this is a very recent phenomenon. And so when young people look up and say, like, hey, is this normal? It is not norm. College is two and a half times more expensive since I went, and it has not gone two and a half times better. So when you say, how are we going to forgive the student loan debt? This again is a giant stimulus to the economy every dollar. We've forgiven student loan debt that young person sometimes older person to just going to end up having more money to spend, what are they going to do? They're going to buy homes. They're gonna start families. They're going to start businesses. They're going to do things they should be doing. This is a stimulus of the people instead of shoveling money to the banks, we give the money back to our people, where they actually will will make use of it. And at this point, it's not like the schools are in hock with his money. This is just a set of financial institutions that are holding this one point five trillion. They don't care where the money comes from pay them off. Do you believe there should be a national minimum wage? I believe that no American should be working fulltime and be poor. The problem is that if you increase the minimum wage from let's call it, you know, nine dollars to fifteen dollars, that's going to hasten the automation of many of these jobs, and environments, like fast food, restaurants, and retailers that are. Barely scraping by. So it's better just to give everyone a thousand dollars a month, because that's a defacto six dollars an hour raise for everybody. And it gets people like my wife, who right now minimum wage went not touch. You are lawyer by training. You're unhappy lawyer in private practice for a bit, and one of the issues, and obviously, I care about and talk about and is consuming. The new cycles are issues, relating to the rule of law, and Donald Trump's conduct and the mullahs report and everything else. I just wanted to ask you, as somebody who went to a phenomenally terrific law school, six years after I did. Do you think the house of representatives should proceed with impeachment of Donald Trump? Oh, I think there's a very strong case that they should, but as you suggest I think it's their job to figure out whether to impeach Donald Trump. And it's my job to solve the problems, I got him elected and beat him at the ballot box if he's still there for me to beat. So we all have jobs to do. Looking at the evidence, you know. And obviously I find much of his conduct somewhere between objectionable in reprehensible, it's one reason why I'm running for president to beat him. But I will say that the problems that got him elected are much more profound than can be resolved even by getting him out of office through impeachment illegal proceedings described, but those things are the levels of dislocation and despair and the fact that many Americans do not feel like the government is responsive to them. I have met thousands of people who voted for Donald Trump, as a sensually vote to burn the house down. They don't feel like the government's working for them. They look around and see their kids strung out on drugs, their way of life disappearing. They're looking for answers. They don't have anyone really speaking to them, except for Donald Trump is like, hey, you know, whose fault, it is immigrants know I'm gonna do I'm going to turn the clock back. I'm going to bring your jobs back and many of them knew he was talking garbage nonsense, even at the time, but they're like, well, at least he's talking about it. So to me, he's a sim. Item. He's a manifestation. And I'm here to cure the disease. You've been outspoken on the issue of legalization of marijuana. You believe in legalization. Yes, that's true. Maybe smoking the marijuana today down the trail, is it help you on the trail. Let's just say you can before the legalization of marijuana and not indulge in it yourself, very well said, nice sidestep there, I think you've said with respect to the supreme court knows where legal issue there should be term limits. Yeah. What, what is the process by which supreme court justices should be appointed and serve, and why we should change it from lifetime appointments to eighteen year terms, which would then make it more predictable if you were to have nine justices, there'd be a new one appointed every two years, every presidential election, you know, would end up nominating two justices, if you kept it at nine and this would make it so that we don't freak out when an eighty five year old woman gets a cold lifetime appointments might have made sense. When your life expectancies were much shorter, as was the case when they wrote the constitution and back in the day, people stepped off the court for a multitude of reasons. They didn't stay there until they were on death's door because they're afraid all the laws land. We're gonna change. They were there. So what might have made sensitive, another point in time, it was just meant to protect judges from political influence than an eighteen year. Timeframe is plenty long for someone to maintain judicial independence during the time. Do you believe Puerto Rico should become a state? I believe that the Puerto Ricans want Puerto Rico to become a state. Yes, it should become a state, and it's one possible way. We can forgive the debt load at his crushing. The people in the economy of Puerto Rico should the district of Columbia, become a state, same thing, if they want to become state, which, I think they categorically do. They should become a state as well. Yeah. No taxation. I was just gonna say that to Asian guys talking about no taxation without representation. Yes. We've learned our civics. Well, even while being bullied in school. Maybe that's why we learn them. Well. Like, no recess. I don't wanna go to recess. I was more of a new gym. No. But then I became very, very you can't see me. But it became very strapping example, had very fit, you look, very fit now, should companies like Facebook be broken up. So here is a very interesting set of issues, like are there instances, where it would make sense for them to divest parts of their businesses. Yes. Does that solve the problems? We're actually concerned with in some cases, probably not like if you look at Facebook, there's a problem with the information, people are getting, there's another problem with the negative impact on the mental health of teenage girls in particular, and that has nothing to do with the ownership structure of Facebook that has something to do with the fact that we have engineers, who are turning supercomputers into slot machines and dopamine delivery devices for teenagers, which has had a disastrous effect on their mental health and wellbeing. So we have to figure out what problems we're actually trying to solve and not be tempted to use twentieth century solutions for twenty first century problems because dynamics of tech are not such that. Oh if I just increased competition. All will be. Well, that's actually not the way it works. There is no reason for any of us to want to use the fourth best navigation app. We just want one that works and has the right traffic and the rest of it. That's why we're all not being things today. You know, it's not like oh, if I just had a multitude research, people don't even know what the hell you're talking about being is a search engine. Tried to compete with. What's the other one? Oh, yeah. Google. Although I was on my laptop today, and it forced me into a Yahoo. Search and how did you react to being forced who serve clearly? Acted poorly to do that. So there are certain dynamics I work in tech. I make it such that just being like if we just like bring them up in have is definitely the case that silicon valley's business models have been transformed in a negative way. We're now everyone's just trying to get acquired by one of the behemoths, right? But what do you think about this? Other aspect of the problem on social media toxically hatred white supremacists and it gets more generally separate from these policies, and they're, they're interesting that should be judged on their merits. But there's also this question this country of how we bring people together, and I don't know that you do that through individual policies. Although you have great faith in the power of policies that affect people who've been disaffected to bring them back into the fold. What do you think generally about a vision for unity for the country? One example of a policy, I think would help his an American exchange program, where every high school senior goes and lives and works in another part of the country with a group of twenty four other high school seniors. And then it be not hers. But Paris, Texas. Yeah. Paris, texas. Okay. And then you'd be face. Book friends with people from all over the country, when someone tried to demonize someone from particular group, let's call them Indians. You know what I mean? Get from Chicago. And he was like, doesn't like me. So that's one way of policy can actually reduce the insularity and tribalism on social media networks in particular, there's a guy named Jaron Lanier who pointed out something, he's one of the pioneers of the internet. He said that negative sentiment is more powerful on the internet than positive sentiment which is one reason why it seems like inflammatory and even toxic. And hateful ideas spread so much online, and that's a fundamental observation than you have to reckon with where, okay we've set up these social networks, that transmit negative, emotions and ideas faster more powerfully than they transmit positive ones. And so what does that mean for how to bring people together, yet this point, even Mark Zuckerberg is saying, I need help with this, if you listened closely she saying, look, I'm head of a private company like I can't be making all these decisions, and then we're throwing rocks at him in part because, again, our government and congress is decades behind the curve, and we can't imagine them making intelligent decisions about. These issues were like Mark do something. Then marks like literally in an interview with George Stephanopoulos. He was like I should not be making these decisions. And if you look at what Facebook's doing to screen, they're toxic content. They're doing they're paying humans chicken scratch to look at the content figure out, what's hateful and evil and obscene. And then to no surprise of anyone that was humans start losing their minds after a certain number of months, and they they're like quitting. It's like the most burnt out inducing job. You can imagine talk about inhuman Facebook. The multibillion dollar company is paying people, you know, I think it's something like ten bucks an hour and a look at terrible things and said that a depression. Yes. And send them into depression, and that's what passes for policy today, because the government's like do something about it. And that's what they're doing. What qualifies you to be the commander in chief? I think what most Americans are looking for, in a commander in chief is good judgment. Because these are the kinds of decisions that, you know, there's really no prior preparation. And so I have principals around what I would do with the military, I would end the forever war, the fact that we have troops in so many places in many cases, engage in conflicts that to your point of the rule of law that congress has never authorized that the American people have very little visibility into even certainly American people do not decide on many of these conflicts. I think we need to put the ability to intervene militarily back into the hands of congress where it belongs. How would you deal with Iran? I mean, I, I would hope to reopen the deal we entered into about de escalation of their nuclear activity in return for various economic considerations, and others. I think we'd get more done when we're engaged with people than when we're not. So I've spent most of this talking about policy, and your background, and your character. And how you think about the country. I do wanna spend a few minutes talking about the thing that everyone does on the cable networks and that is the horse race stir the process through one vinyl eleven hundred running, come on. It wasn't twenty twenty four but maybe not close yet. Is that is that the closed universe? I think there might be more there might be one or two more wanted to more. How the hell do you stand out? You have said something that I think is clever about yourself. You said the opposite of Donald Trump is an Asian man who likes math very funny people to judge says something like that. The opposite of Donald Trump is a millennial veteran who is gay in runs a city in the mid west. I think. I think he's a little longer is a little longer. Remember, do gang who judge has the same problem? It's going to be an issue for him. Because the Buddha judge good a judge. There's no rhyming thing for him. Is it important to premier self as the opposite of Donald Trump? Well, it certainly helps people make sense of my candidacy in a very, very memorable way. But I'm one of only twelve candidates who's qualified for the democratic primary debates on the basis of both polling and individual contributions in most Americans are not really tuning into what's going on with twenty twenty they're gonna turn on that TV. They're gonna see me standing there, and they're going to say who's the Asian man standing next to Joe Biden, and they're gonna look you up, and then they're gonna think of Elision man, send me and then they're going to find out about me my vision for the country, and the Yang gangs going to grow and grow. So we're starting to see increased polling numbers and New Hampshire and I win the early states and this movement is just catching. Fire at the right time, we're going to grow and grow and peak at the right time you have optimism, but the Democrats will do a lot of them are saying they're going to do, which is to be positive only in not trash their adversaries. Well, this is a very, very interesting dynamic pre because like you're in a crowded field, and like I'm top ten most any measurement, the internet has actually seventh most likely to win the nomination, sometimes six. So I'm actually in a better position than a lot of people in, like so the question is, if you're in, like the thirteen to twenty four range, and you're trying to get on the map it's going to be hard to resist taking a shot or two at various people above you. But here's like, are you signaling? So why don't you take a shot at someone? Right now, here's a very interesting thing, though. The Democrats have a history of being nice to each other, and then the gloves come off in the general and sometimes that dynamic shift is not good for us, if we're going to have a genuine race, then the gloves should probably come off at some point during this race. So that by the time our nominee faces Donald Trump all the stuff out in the open, as opposed to all of, like, the, the really important stuff being held in wait until after the personal against nominated it's very candid honest response. So here we are on stay tuned. Take the gloves off, say something about Bernie Sanders in a lot of Americans are very excited about the fact that he seems like a very sincere economic messenger, but his solutions are very backward, looking, they're trying to resuscitate an economy that existed at some point in the twentieth century. And a lot of that is going to be very, very hard to actually materialize in real life. Like, we, we need to be more forward looking about how we can actually make an economy, worked for people. And this is coming from someone who liked supported Bernie in two thousand sixteen was he too old? To be president. This is one of the most important because is one of the elephants in the room pre, we're looking at Bernie Sanders, and Joe Biden, and we're like, okay there were born in nineteen forty one and nineteen forty two respectively, is that what we want like as a party as a people? It's very hard for candidates to talk about. It's very hard for the media to talk about. But every American thinking about it when I go out on the trail to one of the first things that comes up if someone has a problem with our those two candidates, and you're in a personal conversation with him. One of the first things they'll say is there too old. So are you saying they're saying that the American people should have, like a very real conversation about what we think we wanted to president and whether or not having someone who's advanced ages, actually an issue is ideal for the party or the country about Elizabeth Warren? I like Elizabeth Warren's vision of the country. You said, she's very wonky, his sort of like that. So would you be a running mate, would you have her as your running mate? Well, one thing that, you know, because you've hired many, many people yourself, but you would never agree to work with someone unless you'd actually met them and spend some time with. I have never met Elizabeth, Warren. So it would be impossible for me to say, whether that was a nice dodge. How about how about, comma, Harris? Oh, also not met komo's I don't have a basis, but I'm going to meet them all sooner the debates. So I'll have more to say after June twenty-sixth, what's your strategy for the debate, I have four zingers locked and loaded and you kidding. That's a joke. All right. I actually have six oh, I think, anytime guy, you gotta you gotta prepare them. Fence. I actually think it's painful every time a politician like brings out there. Clearly rehearsing her in one of those contexts right now, I'm still introducing myself the American people. And so, like, I'm very happy to have that opportunity. That's you become the nominee. What is the way that you take off the gloves with Donald Trump? He's a bully, lots of people suggest, I tend to agree. Do you think he's a bully? Oh, yeah. Clearly, how is he different from the bullies that you dealt with when you're a kid if at all? No, that's a great question. He's actually quite similar in many. Are you gonna jump them? I want to be a fan day, and I'm like a man in my prime that dude's like seventy two and eat fast food every day. This is going to be an interesting. I can be interesting debate. So short of physicality, how do you take on a guy like that? I'm the perfect candidate to expose Donald Trump because I'm talking about the problems I got him elected, but I have real solutions. So, again, his solutions were build a wall, turning the clock backwards. Bring back the jobs, I'm saying we have to turn the clock forward. We have to evolve in the way we see ourselves in our relationship to the wealth. We're producing in this society. And that's one reason why I'm already peeling off many people that supported him in two thousand sixteen and that's one reason, I'm going to end up the democratic nominee because Democrats want first and foremost, someone who can beat Donald Trump in two thousand twenty and more and more people wake up every day to the fact that I am that candidate complete the following sentence, which I had Valerie Jarrett, who was a guest on the show, recently complete when they go low. We make a clever joke, Preet Brar stone, make everyone laugh and expose them for the blustering failure over president, that he is the has less of a ring. Into it than we go. Hi. That's true. It's a bit long been longer. Maybe want to tweak that a little bit. Do you think America is ready for an Asian American president? I'm going to tell the joke right now. Like someone is someone said this to me, America's ready for an Asian American president because it will irritate everybody. What is that? I don't even know what that means. I wouldn't be here with your Asian Americans or maybe a little bit. You know it's true, competitive Asian Americans, we like, you know, they'd have to deal with their parents saying to them, as my parents with your fifty he's forty four. And he's already the president of the United States. It'd be like some competitive angst, I think, Americans already because most Americans, I, meet on the trail, do not care about my racial background or identity. In the least, they there's wanna know what my vision for the country, is how it's going to help them and their families. And when they see that I'm there to help. It's the last thing they care about if you don't win, if you don't win the primaries and you're not the democratic nominee. What do you think the next few years will look like for you? Well, we're going through the greatest economic and technological transformation in the history of our country. What experts are calling the fourth industrial revolution? And I'm running for president to help America wake up to the fact that is not immigrants and that we need to advance meaningful. Solutions. And so that work will be there, if I'm not the nominee. I mean there's a lot of work to be done. And so if that's as part of a new democratic administration that would make me very happy if I had a role that I thought I could actually help really make these changes, if it's another sort of role that would also be great. But the problems are big and getting worse. And I see myself as someone who can help. No, what I appreciate about that answer. I fully expected you to do what most politicians would do and not answered by saying, we'll I intend to win and not expected that. Well, I expected that of an average person not, not someone like your editor guy. Right. Very impressive. Yeah. You admit the possibility that something would happen. And it's not just the standard talking point. So I appreciate that. I'm on the record saying I have a lower than fifty one percent chance of becoming president, as we're sitting. Fifty one. Well, the internet has me at six seven or eight percent. Andrew Yang, congratulations. And how far you've come good luck to you and the entire Yang gang. Thank you so much pre like I thought you might join the Yang for his I their remaining neutral neutral for now. Thanks so much. Just a quick note before we end remember that Andrew Yang I discussed the number of lawful permanent. Residence, also known as green card holders as compared to the number of undocumented immigrants. Well, so Andrew Yang, and I we're both a bit off since I taped, the interview my crack team did some research into this and found that based on department of homeland security's most recent estimate from twenty fifteen. They were about thirteen point two million lawful permanent residents and twelve million undocumented immigrants living in the US. My conversation with Andrew Yang continues for special insider, bonus to hear that and more analysis and Muller statement joined the community cafe dot com slash insider. Well, that's it for this episode of stay tuned. Thanks again, to my guest, Andrew Yang tweet your questions at pre Perahera with the hashtag ask pre or you can call six nine two, four seven seven three eight and leave me a message that six nine two, four Crete, or you can send an Email to stay tuned, cafe dot com. If you like what we do rate and review, the show on apple podcasts reviews, help new listeners, find the show. Stay tuned is presented by cafe. The executive producer is tomorrow suffer senior producer is Aaron dogs and the cafe team is Carl appear any Julia Doyle, Calvin Lord, the name Bassetti, and Jeff is our music is by Andrew Dost. I'm pre- Perahera. Stay tuned.

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E1048: The Power of Accelerators E1 Steve Barsh, Managing Partner of Dreamit Ventures on top portfolio companies, focusing on specific verticals, tips for nailing accelerator interviews, follow-on philosophy & more

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E1048: The Power of Accelerators E1 Steve Barsh, Managing Partner of Dreamit Ventures on top portfolio companies, focusing on specific verticals, tips for nailing accelerator interviews, follow-on philosophy & more

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And you're doing the social distancing thing during this corona pandemic as a disclaimer obviously Thank you to all the people on the frontline. Whether you're a janitor or delivering food or keeping the food supply up or obviously a nurse. A doctor An aide anybody on the front lines of this war We appreciate you and where an awe of your sacrifice talking about business talking about people's livelihoods. Ken Seem to some As maybe inappropriate or off the mark During a crisis but as we all know the second order effects of this crisis are going to be people's livelihoods and we've seen record numbers of people File for unemployment and to keep the economy going so people can pay for their kid's school pay for their mortgages pay for their food pay for their healthcare their medicine and to generally have the resources they need to run a productive life. Well a lot of those jobs come from start. Ups that is the driver of our economy and the driver of startups over the last decade. Have Been accelerators and incubators. So we thought it would be a good time to do a special ten part series. And we're calling it the power of accelerators incubators is another word for accelerators. We like to use the word accelerators. enduring this ten part series. We're going to talk to the different people who run them about how to get into them had to get the most out of them why they exist and what has become the defacto phase for first time founders and even some second time founders For starting up a company which is you can do it. Bootstrap IT and NOCCO to accelerator. In fact probably the majority of companies don't but for those folks who are trying to get that rocket fuel going and trying to learn and build a network they can be an incredible accelerate and so We're GONNA do this ten part series and we're starting today with episode one with Dream Adventure. Steve Bosch they have over half had over three hundred fifty startups go through their program. Those companies have raised over eight hundred million have a combined value of two billion. Welcome to the POD. Steve Bosch thanks. Thanks thanks Jason. Good to see Adams and I'm assuming everybody is safe and your social distancing and you're working from home I can see we are working from home. We are safe on. People went home about three or four weeks ago. Our Officer in Philadelphia New York City and everybody is safe and well great so Tell me how did dream it. Start and What is the goal of treatment? Sure so dream started back in two thousand eight so about twelve years ago. Eleven or twelve years ago. It was started by three entrepreneurs in the Philadelphia area. That in the beginning wanted to give back wanted to help other entrepreneurs and other startups get get their first start so it started way back then and it certainly evolved over time the mission and what treatment is here to do today is work with the best startups in the world. We've we've really evolved the program over time we now focus on pre series startups startups. That are a little bit later than when we first started. We focus on three specific articles but the mission is to help find the best of the best and make them better. And it's based in Philly and it's in person it is based in Philly. It is not in person so rid of that about three years ago. So it's hybrid location for this particular cycle during covert nineteen on it is completely virtual but typically it's hybrid location. We we don't do. You don't have to be physically present. You're with US part of the time but not all I can get and it's a twelve week program. A Sixteen Week program was to duration of the programme program. Each cycle is about fourteen weeks and some number of those weeks they come to Philly and spend a day or two or ten days. How does that work request? I'll just run you through at a high level with the program. Looks like fourteen week program. They spend the first week with us in Philly on. We bring all the companies in. It's great because we want to get to know them. We want them to know each other a bunch of social things. But it's a lot. It's very heavily. They spent a lot of time with the different managing directors. And that type of thing. The then go back to where they're from wherever they're in the most of our companies are. Us companies we have some European a lot of Israeli companies that come into dream that a lot of West Coast. Silicon Valley Companies Company dream. It on we go for about four weeks from there and they go through a whole process and then the next phase we do and we get back together and that's all over zoo. We're doing intensive coaching. And mentoring over zoom every single week with all the startups from there. They go back home about four weeks later. We get back together and we do something. Called customer sprints and that came from we work with all these technical founders in the different verticals. We work in and they would talk about well. I'm busy doing desperate. We'd say well how about do a customer spread so then the dream the startups get back together. We travel with them a lot of times. We go to New York Boston Philly sometimes down to Tampa and for two weeks on the road. We meet with customers in their offices face to face secure tech company. You're meeting with the Chief. Information Security Company as Chief Information Security Officer Your Health Tech Company or meeting with a VP of innovation and and the chief medical officer. So we go and we do. Those customer sprints we're back together again and it's all about building their pipeline building their customer base and getting exposure to great customers. Typically they meet with about twenty customers over two week period face to face the then go back to wherever they're from. We work with them remotely coaching mentoring and the end of dreaming about four or five years ago we killed our Demo Day. We found who is a pretty much a waste of time because we found those days yea startups. Look at what our community is done. We're not about building community were about building. Startups community is a second order. Fact so we then do a two week. Bicoastal investor roadshow. We email the investors. We know say here's the companies that have gone through dream. It here's twenty twenty two companies that have gone through treatment. Who Do you want to meet with? We do a very bespoke. Investor Sprint is what we call on the West Coast. We go to the bay area a week on the east coast usually New York Boston and DC for our security companies and it's all about helping them get their next round of funding and what's the standard deal. Four dream it show. What do you get? What do they get sure? So what do we get what they get in that standard deal? What does that look like? So companies that come into dream it just to focus and he gets a lot like launched by the way you know. It's very goldilocks. It's a great way. I love your expression on that. Goldilocks company so companies to get into dream that just to add that we're looking for companies that have product have a little bit of revenue or have traction. They have solid customer trials going on or they have revenue a lot of companies. Come into dream it. They're already doing half a million to a million dollars a year coming up on a million dollars a year. They are across the three verticals health tech secure tech and urban tech. So that's the stage. We're looking at their pre series. So sometimes they've raised the friends and family or a seed round but they're definitely pre series. I so that's what we're looking for the offer that we make to those companies is we look for a small amount of adviser equity in whatever their last round was. We're not setting valuation and I can get into that and then we look for an investment. Right we look for about a half a million dollar investment right. So we have the opportunity to invest up to a half a million dollars in the company after they've gone through so different from other accelerators and other models at the end of the day. We think of it as venture firm where venture firm with almost like a pre investment program. And you look at a lot of venture firms that have like a platform team so our platform executes before we invest. Go through this process with us. We get this investment right. We're looking to take that investment right. But we don't set valuation so we're not writing a check for one hundred and twenty thousand dollars for six percent company kind of an arbitrary evaluation and a lot of accelerators will say well. Don't think of it as valuation of that evaluation of that. So we float right. We're not setting valuations so whatever that lead investor comes in we're GONNA decide if we're GONNA take our investment investment right at the end of the day dream at his. Vc Fund we wanted deploy our funds and invested in as many stars as possible to go through and then what those companies. That's what we get out of it. We get that investment right and so you get a one percent of the company as a consultant or something. He said there was a consulting fee or something. No it's it's almost like an advisory fee so it really it usually comes in at around about one hundred and fifty thousand dollar convertible security. Were not writing a check for it. It's basically getting a small Manda Equity in the company. Got Company was worth ten million. You would get that one point. Five percent In lieu of cash. Just for running the program. Correct exactly right. So it's it's that and then after you make that decision with the five hundred K. How often do you actually do that? Half the time. Two thirds one third scrape questions so about fifty percent of our companies raised within six months of getting out of dream it so about half race and within those about eighty to eighty five percent of them will write a check the times that we won't write a check just quickly if the valuation runs away from us. They do some. They have a huge strategic investor. Were more of a financial investor and the evaluation gets way run-up or it's not a real lead sometimes but at the end of the day we want to write checks our jobs to deploy funds and invest in the best of the so. You want to see them. Get a lead. If they can't get a lead investor you're not gonNA be the lead in that case correct valuation. It's one of the things that's really. We think unique about our model again. We're not setting valuation coming in at whatever that fair market value that FM fantastic and then in terms of what they get out of it. Obviously they're meeting those customers. You set up those meetings and they're meeting all of those founders All those investors. So you're basically acting as an investment bank in terms of doing the introductions or another investor and as a defacto business development person setting up all those business development meetings I would. It's a lot of business development. It's a lot like investment banking. But the other thing we do and I think you do it too and you talked to a lot of people on your shows about which is great. We beat the shit out of them. Our job is to find the best of the best and make them better and we have companies that go through Jima that have been through other programs. A lot of companies are two or three years old. They have five to ten people and they'll sit down with us in the first week and say the questions that you guys asked when you do deep dives and we go through their deck. Go through their pitch and go through their strategy. They'll say no one has ever asked me questions like this. I've been working on my company for two or three years. No one has asked me questions. You're so insightful. And so fast and we'll say well there's a lot more like this coming like that's great. That's like well then. We're going to get along really really well. So it's not just the getting in front of customers and getting in front of investors but pressure testing and seeing through the model and really getting ready so when they go on that investor sprint like a lot of investors will come back to us and say. We don't know what you do with your company's but my God they're so tight everything's well fought through. It makes sense so there's a lot more of the coaching in the mentoring. By the way all the mentoring a dream it ninety five percent of that is dream at team members so dream it were still small. We're about sixteen people. But we don't have this whole field of mentors in this big metro network around the world because to us if I remember your your background's in psychology right. Yeah that's diffusion of responsibility who who has responsibility for that startup. Who has to make sure they get off line we do. That's our job. We take it seriously. So we have fulltime people at dream that are seasoned entrepreneurs exit entrepreneurs that are fulltime staff members with deep domain expertise. Working with these start up so again. It's not just. The business of working with customers is critically important working with investors but it's that process of thinking it through and getting them ready for all right when we get back from this quick break. I want you to go through the portfolio graduates. Tell me which was objectively have hit the biggest highs in terms of revenue valuation and raising money when we get back on this week in startups power of accelerator series episode. 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He's S Barsha on the twitter B. A. R. S. H. Dream Adventures. You can go visit them at dream. It DOT COM And they've been doing this since two thousand eight and you've been a managing partner there since two thousand fifteen correct Steve About five years there early on I left to go do another startup and then I came back. I was there in two thousand nine and then came back so tell me what what are the top companies to come out of dream it so far and what heights have they hit in terms of you heard earlier traction fundraising valuation revenue. You know the things that would be the real metrics. People would qualify these companies against. Okay so I think some interesting companies that come out of dream at level came out of that in two thousand seven it was acquired last year by Grubb. This Great Company House Party. Which was mere cat came out of? Dream. It was acquired by epic Games. Seekie came out of dream that back when I was running in two thousand eight two thousand nine by the way. It's interesting so sequencer dream it it came in as I'm trying to remember. It was a blogging authoring platform. When it first came in we spent a lot of time beating them up in a really big way focused on. What are your one or two key assumptions? And how do you do? Risk those assumptions and halfway through the program. They said you know. We've tried to de risk our most critical assumptions. And we've decided were wrong and we wanted your permission to to shut down and do something else for like you. Don't you don't need permission. It's your company not ours. So as racially seek was originally. Like a tumbler or was it. Wasn't that sophisticated knowing I'm trying. It was a network to find bloggers and share blogger work. And I'm trying to remember the name because I work with them pretty closely on it and within four to six weeks they just shut it down there like what we were trying to prove or disprove are most critical assumptions right. All the hypothesis testing all the lean startup kind of thinking was pre the word lean startup. But I'm and they prove to themselves that they're there to course options they were wrong on both and shot it down and seek was the phoenix rising from the ashes. It was a great story. I remember there. In front of the rest of the cohort. This is back when we used to do things in person. And they turned all the companies. And Said we've come up with three names this this or seek and everybody's like seek. We'd like that okay. We'll go with that. So see creeks great company. They're still an independent company and growing their up in New York City up. Because I'm in Philly. Yeah doing really well. In our more recent companies we have companies like reeboks. Health Tech Space and digital health. Reeboks is the gold standard for how you integrate with healthcare of electronic health records. Hr EMR's around the world so the gold standard companies like Cherry and our urban tech space just closed really big round with Intel capital Cherry Tisch curious in the attic space for an urban tech. It's real estate analytics. Data providers what they do tissue analytics and health so it's across health urban tech and where we focus for the last few years but lots of companies we've had about three hundred and fifty companies go through health is the oldest of the verticals about one hundred and thirty companies have gone through. So there's a lot of companies at different stages of growth so we're going for companies that have products in market. So you're not an incubator. You're not incubating ideas. Somebody comes in and says I have a business plan. I have A mockup a prototype. I over the weekend. You're not doing that. Stage of company. Correct we're not doing that stage. We started there. But it's like you know we're not we're not interested in sitting there and explain to founder. What's a CAP table? How do you incorporate it's just it's not as value added and it's not as interesting for us and we think there's more founders? We can help once they get past that to really accelerate really build and grow the company. Once they've gotten just a little bit of like the smoke is coming out of the little teepee of wood and then we want to really help. Isn't it all sorts of towel if they can't even get a basic product and one customer to use it? I mean in today's Day and age you can do that with sweat equity with two or three people and whatever maybe Ten weeks of work. So if you can't do that Joe Chia disqualify yourself from kind of even being in the startup game absolutely absolutely and then we'll go a little bit earlier if we see something that is exceptional the founders exceptional. What they're doing is exceptional. It's really unique and we we know our verticals so well but I'm probably like you know. There's so many founders. We talked to in their pitching us and we know so much more about the vertical than they do but if we see something exceptional will go a little bit earlier. Maybe they don't have revenue. They just have a couple of unpaid trials. Like you said they're not thinking you've talked about. They're not customers. They're they're free users. They're freeloaders maybe they. That but you're starting to see the way that people reacting to it once in a while will go a little bit earlier if we see something that really catches our eye but yeah we're looking for a little bit of early traction and you said there are three verticals explained those verticals again and why shirt. Yeah the three verticals that we focus on health tech which is really focused on digital health medical devices and diagnostics. The original thesis by the way behind that we started health tech about eight years ago. It's went electric medical records coming online and we thought wow if these MARZILLI. Hr's remember Jason. Used to go to the doctor when you were a little kid. There's no computer you know. They pulled the paper chart. They had a lot of the little letter. Yeah a lot of file cabinets are gone right. We said well. If this gets digitized than Obama made it mandatory in there was funding for that? Oh my God that data that this is going to throw off will be enormous. That's why I started dreaming health and Dream Health Tack. It was like this. This is going to be huge and luckily we were right. So health tech is again digital health medical devices. It's really cool right now. While we're recording this in twenty twenty a lot of those companies we have over fifteen companies that are getting sucked up so quickly because they have covered. Nineteen frontline solutions. That's really cool. So That's how tech secure TAC is three kinds of areas we focus on cybersecurity physical security and like fraud on A. We love the space because the really big problems. The urgent problems security and cyber security is such a big issue. It's a really big pain point. We have an managing director for health. It's Adam Deacon Mel heads up secure tack so those against Cyber Security physical security so it's not just the digital side but there's all the weather cameras or detecting that type and things like fraud counter-fraud any fraud any money laundry. They're just big problems. They're interesting they're very B. Two B. Enterprise. We're good at that. We have domain expertise. The last one is urban tech which focuses on construction tack real estate tax prop tech huge trillion dollar industry around the world. Lots of big things going on and we find it just a really interesting space so again. There's like each verticals is excuse. Me Is a very big umbrella. And then there's sub within those verticals and that's what we focused. What if you have a consumer company? That looks really promising. And they're making a game or a subscription service for doing workouts Like Yoga or something and you just fall in love with the founder And you love their progress. You don't invest and you just pass them onto other folks. I'd say call Jason Launch. I'm not kidding. You're you're very agnostic for all the right reasons and I love your thesis. We focus on three things and I think we do it exceptionally well and I think we do it better than anyone in the world. And I know you're going to have like ten different accelerators on. I think there's a handful of venture firms that do acceleration like VI pre investment programmer. I think there's a small handful single digits around the world that know what they're doing. Yeah we know what we're doing and the air is we work in where exceptionally good. We don't you know it's a consumer APP for game. Nope we won't do we invest in it. It's just and it also in order to pursue your your tours when you go on that and road tripping you do a customer sprint. Yuck if you had thirty different verticals you'd have to thirty different sets of correct customers. It wouldn't be possible here. You have three different verticals and the customers are all going to be in those three. So do you run the classes on a rolling basis or is it one class as one team per class or do you have a mixture of those three in each class and how many people per class great question so we think of them as cohorts? We want to cohorts two time quarts per year as much like I see. We do a spring and a summer. They call winter but we do a spring. Excuse me a spring and a fall cohort two cohorts per year. All three verticals. Run it exactly the same time. It gives us scale ability by the way I think of dream at a lot of times like a startup business that helps other businesses. It's so funny by the way I don't know you you're not at the end of the day also and everybody dream is to have people be like well now. You're not a start up there. You're not an operator anymore. You're an investor. No Yeah No. We're still an operator. You are writing checks and it is different but when you run an accelerator you have a customer the stars and you really have to build a product that appeals to them right and the way I think of it. I'm sure you do with launch to. I don't know if you're GONNA interview yourself for that because you guys are doing is really cool. I'll interview. We'll flip but anyway no and we think about it. Just to digress. For a minute we think about it with dreaming about investors. The number of times. How many times have you done this? Jason as an arch part. You'd meet with a you'd meet with an investor and they say to you. Well Jason. What makes you unique? What's your what's your defensibility. What's your cost of customer acquisition? How what's your Ip and the number of times is an entrepreneur. I'd WanNa meet with that investor and hold a mirror up to them and say I have a question what the fuck is yours. What makes you so special? And and so it dream that we we almost would just think about that all the time. We obsessed what makes us unique. What makes us different? What makes US special? How can we get our startups to win? So we think in bill dream at along those lines like any other type of coffee. Sorry for the Digression. No let me go fucking discretion. Do when we get back from this quick break. I want to know what you think is the most important part of what an accelerator can do for a start up the anointing of them in other words saying this is a valuable company worthy of your attention to the downstream investors. The money or the advice when we get back on this week turnips now more than ever. 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It's our special ten part series. The power sellers first step. Steve Bosch from Dream Adventures When we left for the break I wanted to know what you think is the most important thing that accelerators as a category do for start ups if you had to rank these. Three fourths ranked the advice. The money for the anointing stack rank those for me. Which one is the number one which was number two number three so? I think it depends. I think for dream at. It's hard to pick. It's like pick your favorite child right. Yeah I think for us. The advice is really important again. We have probably like you do it. Launched we have so many startups. Come in that are well on their way few years in and we just start tearing ended and pressure testing all over the place and you know once they come in. We take the gloves off. Radio you made it through final round interviews. Welcome to dream it and by the way I look at it and again. I think it's like what you do in other people do a dream at Harvard or Stanford. How many students have you met that graduated from universities? That like they're not that smart. They're all brilliant. By the way they're brilliant they wouldn't have gotten into Harvard or Stanford if they weren't brilliant their jobs to make them better and dream at our job is to attract the best of the best. Pick the best of the best and then make them better. So I think part of it like those universities. There's a branding component to it like other company and in the verticals. We operate. That really means something. If Your Health Tech Secure Tech Urban Tech People say oh it's a dream that company. I know it's going to be good. Because so few of these companies get in so that that curation is really important I think though again though is getting to the advice side the mentoring the pressure testing companies that come out change materially like when a dream it company talks with another company from previous cohort. And they're like Oh my God. You're going through treatment. I remember that that's pretty intense. I think those are the top so advice is your number one. Is the mentor them? Where do you put the money? And the anointing factor. I put the money probably last and also again like we talked about a little earlier. We don't riding up front check got outta that business. We want an investment right. And we don't want to do some bullshit valuation. That's artificial like we'll give you one hundred twenty six percent of your company. Our companies every single company ninety percent Jamie companies. That would be a down round if we did that if we wrote that check so it's not the money for us. It's it's going to be to help them get that round as they go through the investor sprint to that process and we write a check afterwards but yeah say money is last. Yeah money's lasts for May I put the anointing I But that might be unique to me and then the second not that. We don't do a lot of advice and not that we don't try to hash through it and maybe the founders would pick something opposite the interested also in hearing what our founders say about this in terms of rating our programs. How do you know since you know the advice? And you've now mentioned twice that you really hammer them and you try to be with them most. Vc's today say there is no downsize. There is no upside criticizing an entrepreneur. When you meet them or giving them any kind of hard madison or doing anything that is even remotely interpreted as criticism because you might upset the founder and they might not want you to invest or you might get a reputation for being too candy to blunt. I know I got that early in my angel. Investing career so how do you know when to turn that on and not have it be obnoxious or unnecessary but to have it actually be constructive? When they thousands of startups thousands and thousands of startups apply to dream at every single year. We don't turn that on a big way until they're in the beating doesn't begin until they're in when when we're doing fine around interviews. We'll ask them tough questions. And we've talked about this. There's a bunch of corporations that have talked to us. Like how do you do what you do? You will go into corporate accelerators by the way and the like. Oh come in and take a look at our startups. And we'll spend an hour and talked to eight startups and see. What do you think who are the winners? And we're like there's nothing here you don't know how to triage startups. You just don't understand the questions you should be asking. So when companies go through a final round interview with dream it we want them to walk away and say you know because you have a brand like you're talking about reputation and it's that it's that joke definition of diplomacy right. What's the definition diplomacy being able to tell someone to go to hell? And they enjoy the ride. We need somebody to go through a final round interview with dream it and if they're not going to get in and they say you know what those questions were tough but fair but we won't give a lot of advice. We're just GONNA ask a lot hard questions. Which is what our job is and we always do. Once they come in and they are dream accompany in the first week. They do something we do something with them. Called deep dives where we go back through with them because dream it is not preprogrammed for every startup. It's customized because every started comes into the different stage different funding different market. We do a deep dive with them. It's like a diagnostic to understand where they strong aware they weekend. We want to focus on with them for the next fourteen weeks. During the deep dive process the gloves come off the truth. Thoughts out and I'd say ninety percent of the startups go. Oh my God this is. This is crazy I love this. Can we do this some more? It's like we're GONNA get along really really well. You think that's how I mean. The truth is if you are really trying to win any any criticism you looked at as a gift a way to get better right. What are the questions you like to ask her in those interviews and why okay? Great question so one of the questions like to ask the first thing like to hear about is what problem. You're solving right at this kind of standard stuff. But I'll just tell you why to me. Jason. I think about again a lot of what? We do triaging high-speed triage and I WANNA understand. We WanNA UNDERSTAND WHAT PROBLEM. You're solving big and urgent problem. What's unique insight around that problem? The reason why is it just use a medical analogy if a patient gets wheeled into the ED by the way we've learned that in health tech you can't call it an er. It's not an emergency room because it's not the cardiology room and it's an emergency department. So if a patient get wheeled an from an ambulance into the day and I put their fingers on the pulse and there's nothing there and there's body is cold. I don't need to do a cat. Scan and X ray and lab work. We're done if a startup comes into dream starts pitching us and we don't believe the problem you know. The fact right. Fifty percent over fifty percent of startups fail because they're not solving a big energy and eat first thing. What big problem solving? We're GONNA put our fingers on the pulse if we agree with that. What evidence that the problem exists? Then we want to start understanding what toss about your solution. What's unique about your solution? What's unique insight? The solution doesn't just need to be a technical solution. We do a lot of series called the dream Dose. And we talk about this there. How can you be clever on more than one access is? Are you being clever in the product in your go to market strategy in the way you're quiring customers? How do you think about all that? So we look at problem. We look at solution. We do look at total addressable market. We won't understand that how the competition competitive differentiation. We have a great dream. It does on on competition. We always talk about. No Magic quadrants. Don't WanNa see your bullshit magic quadrant WanNa see a well thought-out competition and when most startups are pitching us. They're going to not do well on these but we can ask enough questions to figure out if we like it or not and then understand the team that type of thing so the usual things. What's your go to market strategy? It's another if I want to pull the rug out from under a startup. I say tell me about your pricing. Where did it come from and telling me about your go to market strategy? Usually the fall down that we can fix that at dream it. We can really help them. Find tune that but problem solution. How big's the market what traction do you have? What evidence do you have that people care about the screaming which which one of those questions at the stage? You're investing to people struggle. The most with on competition go to market strategy. They they just don't even understand those what you go to market strategy direct sales. That's not a go to market strategy. That's a sales strategy. I find they struggle with that a lot. So explain that to me go go to market mean in for dream it and for you chuck and there's another dream that does go to market strategy so the way. I think about it is particularly for early on and we just had Jeffrey Moron from crossing the chasm and I remember that's where I learned this from originally right. He's talking about what's the definition of market. We understand WHO's your target? Customer and most are companies are kind of enterprise type companies. What what's the targeting criteria? Why what Tippett customers you looking for like I love to go fishing. So we make lots of fishing analogies. You're going fishing for what type of fish and I'm not worried if you're going for flounder or tuner bluefish. I'm worried about the criteria. Like what are your best criteria? What are your best target customers? You want to go after and why so for that good market strategy. We really understand understand. What Marquis going after what type of customers? Why and then. How does that evolve over time as you grow? Your solution grows in your brand gross and I find ninety five percent startups. You just pull the rug out from under them. They're just all over the place in Ramat. Give me a great example of a company that really defined that. Dial that in if you can let me think of company that define that. Dow that in. I don't know most of his. I can't think of one off the top of my head. Most of them that we make pretty big adjustments. I'll give you an example by the way we do a lot of health tech companies. And they're all chasing what are called. Amc's academic medical centers. We'll say why are you chasing an academic medical center? Everybody's chasing them it's like on. I live on the East Coast United States right so if you WANNA go fishing over New Jersey. It's like tuna-fishing you're trying to catch something. It's eighty to one hundred miles off shore. It's nearly impossible to catch if you catch one. You're eating and you're doing well if you don't you're runs out of gas and you're going to die of starvation. Yeah and we see a lot of startups. We try to adjust them to think about. How do you start getting fish in the boat like? Let's start making money here. Let's start getting traction. Let's start getting out there so a lot of them. We adjust their thinking around that more go to market strategy. How do you mess with pricing? How do you do almost like a price guarantee where you as the start up? If you believe so strongly in your product how about you take risk and say to the company B. Two B. Look if it doesn't work you don't know US anything. We also play around with their business model nets. I think understanding your ideal customer profile. Who YOU GONNA go after I that tip of the spear the Wedge Strategy Yep feel haven't even given that much thought very poor thought it's just kinda random and look through young companies and they're being opportunistic and understand that it's a little bit like I don't know if you know lawyers when they graduate from college. This is a joke. You know kind of law. Do you practice door law. What's that whatever walks in the door that day? That's that's long practice a little bit like door. Startups like these are customers. They're they happen to be local. But then once you get going it's like focus because you know right so many startups die because they're not focused. They're all over the place they're scattered focus and for that ideal customer profile. You talked about who is going to suck up the solution. Where do you fit insanely well with what they're doing? You're not spending eighteen months pounding down a door. But the doors open for you because you're well aligned from the value proposition. Yeah I mean if you put it on an x y axis there's how easy it is to sell the person and then there's how much value they get from it or you can tell you how easy it is it to sell them. And how much money do they spend? And you know if you got a product where people are just lining up to use it like slack or something. You don't really need to go top down and try to get you know. Ibm to buy fifty thousand seats. When you're starting you just get startups to by five to fifty seat absolutely. It's like BREX BREX launch. Braxton COMES OUTTA why seeing goes back twice and they do a lot of stuff with us. We're GONNA go back. After startups. Our value proposition fits ridiculously while the startup. That's what we're going to focus explain. What breakfast Oh breakfast is the really cool credit card that if you're a startup and and you don't have it you don't want to sign a personal guarantee and get credit card that gives you five thousand dollars worth of monthly spending your credit line. Brexit more focused venture back. They'll look at how much money you have from your venture around and they'll give you that basically that amount of credit plus they have financial products we have to. Cfo on live actually a month or two ago. Great Story from investors in them. We usually know them really well. And they're part of when you come into dream it you get a preferred rates brass and they sponsored this pot in fact When we get back from this quick break I wanna know how much of the program is focused on the customers and the advice and the stuff we've talked about and how much of it is based on fundraising and what your best practices are for your companies to close around. When we get back on this weekend startup I got so much going on here. Obviously the podcast is doing great launch. Accelerator is amazing. We've got over one hundred graduates now. My Fund a ton of events. We just did Angel University for two hundred fifty people. We've done fifteen or twenty times so many projects and my team members are so in the weeds getting so much done. How do we surface and control and Organiz all this information all the different projects? We're doing well. We use something called notion and not notion and it is amazing. It's one tool. That does many jobs. You could organize your notes. Kind of like a wicky for your docs kind of like a word processor as well as projects and workflows in one spot and it lets you use all kinds of different free-flowing objects you can have a list. You can have a table. You can have comments bullet list so what we did was. We started a book club in this Weekend Syrup Slack. You can join that this week. In STARTUPS DOT COM slash slack. And somebody who is in the socks that here's my notes on the first book. Were winning Robert. Eggers book the right of a lifetime so we did the first Book Club and like sixty seventy eighty people showed up on the zoom in slack and those are great for talking and but they both suck for taking notes. One of the members of the community made out of the book and then two of my team members Laura Tracy impression my members for contributing all of their thoughts on the book and taking what people were talking about and making an outline of notes of everything we learned from the book and we did that beautiful. And you could see it here on the screen in notion. So we had this incredible flourishing conversation that would have went into the cather the ether but it got captured on notion for all time. Then we took that experience that sixty seventy of us were having and we shared it with ten thousand people. I'm not kidding. And now all those people are going to read robberies book and we got to get the pockets by the way all of this was done with notion and it works so well for startups could complete no brainer. It's you're wicky it. You're managing projects creating documents and taking notes all in the same place. So here's your call to action get started with notion and they're going to give you fifty percent off their team plan for your first year by going to notion dot com slash twist please. I know you don't need to save money and a lot of cases but us that you are else so that they know you came from pod notion and not dot com slash twist. I am addicted to this. Product is like one of the great products of all time and I know this is an address another part of the program. We were using this long before they decided to sponsor the podcast. It's Kinda got that magical feeling like Uber or Wikipedia or slack or zoom. Had when you first use it you get that tingle. We get that notion tangle notion dot com twist fifty percent off their team plan for your first year. It's a great offer. It's a great. It's not it's not a great product. It's a world changing problem. I I could say that. It's a game changing product. All right. Let's get back to this amazing episode. Okay welcome back to this week in startups. We've got another ten part special for you. It's called the power of accelerators and this is our first episode in the series with me Steve Bar. She's a managing director at Dream Adventures. You can visit them at dream at DOT com. They've got over three hundred fifty companies that have gone through their accelerator They get a little bit of advisor ship fees and then the option to put five hundred thousand dollars in your round they focus on three verticals Security and healthcare and urban an urban is a pretty wide one. But I think you guys understand what it is you pick the nice easy ones healthcare and construction while who exactly simple little industries. Yeah didn't WANNA go into the music business journalism interesting to you in media when we went to the commercial break. I wanted to know I get what you're doing in terms of customers and helping them with how to think about their market and their go to market strategy start about the fundraising process. Obviously we're taping this during the corona virus. But let's put that aside and let's talk about in a normal market. Maybe not as hot as we were in. Maybe not as dry as we're in right now but in a normal market What are the best practices in how much of what you do is about the fundraising process or do you do such a good job on helping them build a great customer racing clients? That is just a formality of you. Just introducing people It's a great question. I think it's the third third third the customer customer sprint. Getting in front of lots of customers face to face is very important getting them ready for that so they're fine tuned the coaching. The mentoring is very intense. And it's a game changer. For them and we really changed the way they think about their business and they talk about their business and then the investor sprints and getting them ready for that process. I think it's about its third third and third all the way across on what gets them and then was your question you know what gets them ready for the investor sprint with that process. Like I'm curious what the process is like you all to ten companies. Come in and do two minutes each do they do. Thirty minute interviews with them and you set up individual meetings. What's the what's the actual tactical process of those fundraising towards church? Let me get walk you through that. So when companies come back from customers Brinson go home right we start getting ready for the investor sprint. We know basically what we WANNA make. Sure they have in their investor deck where they're going to get asked questions we want to make sure it's really extremely well thought through because reminder these are all pre series companies but they've got revenue so the question. They're going to get down into the weeds of well. What is yourself pipeline? Look like how do you think about the pipeline? How you grow in the pipeline. But everything that's going to be in a deck that needs to be in there. We want to make sure that that story is solid. There's no record scratches in. It holds together from that front slide to the backside. And by the way crescendo. With really great vision we see so many startups that make the mistake of on raising two million dollars to get to a three and a half million dollar run rate. Okay then what right? So people like yourselves other great investors. They don't WanNa be sitting kit hitting singles like. How are we going to build this? Something really big. So it's one of the areas we focus on by the way that we see a lot of founders like but what's the vision has the world changed three to five years now because you're in it suspend time on that so then getting them ready for the investor sprint one week start reaching out all the investors we know which is a couple thousand on both coasts? The United States. We email them and say these one pagers. These are the companies. That are getting ready to come. Who Do you want to meet with U Pick? Who's interesting to use that? Curation saves a Lotta time for everybody. Typical dream it start-up we'll have fifteen to eighteen one. On one meetings on the East Coast and the West Coast so all of that's getting curated. The investors Picchu they want to meet with startups are going into their offices. They get usually thirty minute. Meetings we always tell startups. Look your job in that thirty minute meeting. There's one thing you want to do is stay away from no. You're not trying to close the deal. Try to wet their appetite and say this is interesting. I want to find out more. Those startups are very tuned. To the point right before they go on investor sprints we do something called mock interviews and we have friends of ours as we do it and we start beating the crap out of them and it's like a real. Vc meeting we actually say. Turn off your back. I WanNa talk to you. I don't give a shit about your deck. I invest in people not decks. Why are you doing this? And we'll distract them and do all kinds all the nasty tactics we can take as entrepreneurs we've been through and really get them ready for that experience then the processes curated they go out for two weeks highwater mark for a dramatic company. They'll have thirty to thirty five. E C meetings individual meetings in two week period average fifteen to eighteen. That's what that process. Looks like our definition of success archaic. Pi Of what we're looking for at that stage of going through dream it is what percentage of companies raise around within six months of getting out of dreaming and roughly that hovers around fifty percent about half raise within six months getting out of dream it and then we're looking to write a check as part and ensure out of the ones that raise or don't raise some number of them. Maybe don't WanNA raise at that point in time. They want to go back to work. And raise at a higher evaluation where they haven't diluted into the point at which you know you're going to be truly interested correct absolutely as a matter of fact it's interesting you brought that up. Let me unpack that a little bit about a year and a half ago. Two years ago we actually unbundled dream it. We'd have companies that are like I WANNA come into dream that we actually have a lot of companies that come from seed stage firms. They write a check for a million dollars and say go to dream. It's they can do all the heavy lifting. Let them get you in front of customers. And then we get all the metrics and investment rights that worked for us and it makes sense so they'll come in. They just closed their seat round a month before they got into dream it. They don't need to go on an investor. Sprint fourteen weeks now. It's it's a waste of time so they can actually unbundle that and do the investor space in the next cycle or they can come in and just do half accustom response to say. I don't really need customers on final revenue. I need more help on investors so they can actually unbundled dream it you know. We don't want them like get on the bus leaving. They can modify dream it so it works best for them and our platform and platform team is actually set up that when a founder is considering going to an accelerator. What's the best way for them to judge how good that accelerator is too great question? Talk to founders. That have been through it. It's just like you know if I want to find out what's what's what's Jason like as an investor you need to talk to previous companies talk to previous companies successful talk to breathe is companies made that haven't been successful. I've done that for. Vc's that have invested in startups. I've run it's the best way. And when you're like a dream it and some other great accelerators there's a lot of companies that have gone before you. You know it's like if I'm wearing a university and my son's going to college are going to college. You want to find out what the schools really like. Talk to some students. There have been through that process. So that's I think the best way is to find out talk to people have actually been through it. What are the top three things that somebody can tell you in an interview for your accelerator? That make you heck yes. I'm working on a really big urgent problem. And here's the evidence I have. Here's the customers I've either been selling to talking to but you have evidence it's like the LoC don't bullshit a bullshitter. Don't sit there and come in with fake crap. So it's a really big urgent problem. I think like Brad fell talks about. That's where I learned it from years ago. The first time I heard it I don't know about you. You know it's a little bit like in that problem area. Are you selling vitamins aspirin antibiotics? It's an antibiotic right. It's really bigger problems with the thing. I don't know if you've heard this Jason we use. Sometimes it's like you know when you go to the dentist and they tap on your tooth. Jason is this tooth. No is that this now this. Oh that's right. We're looking for for companies itself a really big pain point and it's here. We're looking for a company. That has a solution. That's based on a really interesting unique insight and then finally the other thing is we want to understand that you understand the competitive landscape. What makes you unique? What makes you different We WanNa make sure you have a really good understanding of those three things. Those are probably the top three things that we're looking for should accompany go to multiple accelerators and under what circumstances should they? You know I think so. You don't WanNa do it too many times and the way I look at it by the way if you think about an accelerator from dream it and again we think of ourselves. Moore's venture capital firm these days with a pre investment program. It's a little bit like I go to undergraduate school. And then I go to Grad school and Dream it's a Grad School for for startups. We have a lot of companies. I'd say twenty thirty percent been through an accelerator before June. That's fine you WANNA be careful. You don't want if you're signing all these notes again and again and again. Are you making any real progress? And there's a lot of like accelerators that are just not very good and they don't add a lot of value but they they take something from the start up on so I think it's okay. We see a number of startups that have gone through dream. That like this is easy for the minor amount of adviser equity and we get an invest. We give an investment right. This is like a function for us like Holy Shit. You guys are GonNa get us in front of twenty potential customers. Over fourteen week process it saves six to twelve months so I think in that case. If you have a group like ours a team like ours that can put you in front of decision makers and important customers and a lot of them. It's a great thing to do and I don't think it's okay to do more than what and who shouldn't go to an accelerator who shouldn't go to dream and obviously outside of people who are not in the but when is it not a fit to go even go to an accelerator or to your specifically so let me. It's a great question. Let me ask you a question Jason. Do you have any side hustles? Which really aren't a scalable business. But you just kind of do something it's monetary. You're making some money for my thing. Took hold on the PODCAST team all of a sudden. Wait a second knicks like job security right so that is done well. It's a side hustle. I have a couple of side hustles. They don't deserve to go through. And Look if you want to have a pizza shop if you WANNA auto body mechanic if you want to do something that it's GonNa you know it's look if I make a half a million a million dollars a year. They're seven people working here and I'm happy fine. I don't need all the aggravation I don't need. Investors don't go to dream it like dream it and brethren like dramatic companies and teams that. Do what we do there for companies that really WANNA scale so if you want to scale something go into a dream it you know if you don't why go get a PhD that type of thing right. So if it's for companies that want to scale and I have a couple of little things that I do on the site they're not scalable. It doesn't make sense. There's no need to and when you put it in the five hundred thousand in that case. What is your follow on philosophy? A lot of you said you're a venture firm lot of berms are really into following on and doubling down on the on the breakout winters. Do you follow on after that. Five Hundred K. Check absolutely there's reserve right again for that same amount. Oh absolutely WANNA fall on. So that's the intent and we have ratios of what our expectation for follow on but there's a reserve that we put in place for those companies based on certain ratios that we do WanNa follow on absolutely you at four or five. You're gonNA follow along with something in that ranch. I don't know the ratio so another managing partner. Jim It runs more on the fun side. I'm on the whole kind of front end. I don't remember the ratio off the top of my head. But it's it's a lot. It's designed for a lot that we do that. Follow on. It's the way we think about. And how do you think about companies that are struggling and need a bridge and saying no to those companies? Because you're not really designed to bridge funding. I assume sure no. We're not designed to be pre funding. We will participate a bridge. But it's something. I wasn't long time ago with Josh Complement at First Round Company first round capital and just learn so much and I've river expression there. It's a bridge to wear like where's it. Is it a bridge or is it a dock and I'm going to just walk out? Walk off in them in the water. So it's really understanding. We're just getting to you. Why do you need a bridge? What are the fundable milestones? What magically is going to happen when you get to the other side of that bridge so we'll participate in abridge if it makes sense if the business isn't working and it's a bridge to nowhere it's not as interesting at the end of the day. Look you know when we have companies. Come into dream it. We talked to our managing directors. That run the different verticals. All the time. See realize you're getting married to these companies the number of times and I'm sure like you especially when the times are tough talking startups all the time text messages from founders at eleven o'clock at night one in the morning my cto. Just quit and we're getting on the phone. We're there to help we're entrepreneurs we WANNA get in it to win with them and we enjoy that. We're not just I've met some they have an MBA from Harvard. They never on a company. We LOVE TO BUILD. Companies are passionate. We want to drive them success. So we will participate and bridges when it makes sense and we're always there to advise and guide and and really brainstorm and soundboard through difficult issues and challenges when you look at downstream investors. What are the top two or three firms that you want your founders to get meetings with and to hopefully close an investment from sure has biggest impact downstream view? I think they get in front of some of the most prominent investors. You can pick up but again we're in in these verticals so you know if it's urban tech its fifth while ventures is if it's health tech it might be health which is you'd think who's how thanks but there are great firm and Madison Wisconsin Terrific. As a matter of fact we have a lot of Health X. companies that come into dream they write a check in the treatment. And sometimes it's the other way round so it really varies by vertical. Sometimes it's the big brand name. Investors whether they're going to see within neat with injuries and Horowitz or sequoia. They're going to meet with them but a lot of ours are very very specialized. Verticals health tech isn't for everyone. So maybe it's a four six inches out of Boston that type of firm so So there's the concept being. There is a if you're specializing these verticals. You know specific downstream investors. Who are also in those verticals and you've sent them three or four or five companies in the last year. Get Ready. So they know the quality that you're bringing it gets back to my point about the Roe accelerates play and anointing of picking whips and by the way and they're sending US companies. It goes both ways or they've written a check and send it or they're like you know they're not ready for their series but you go back into dream it and come back after you've been through that process after you as a wrap up here after you go through those like say twenty customer meetings. What's what's the chances you actually land one of those in the next year or two or three of them even is that it's a great question. Yeah it absolutely does. It actually happens in the in the meetings sometimes not all the time we've actually and it's a little bit like when you go fishing you go fishing for one type. We've had once or twice in the last year. Where people are on customer sprints and they turn out to be investor so like wait wait. Wait we're looking for money. So it varies. Look the number one thing. We talked to dream and startups all the time. You go on customer sprints. Don't sell talk about how you WANNA partner. Because they don't want to be sold to if they feel like a piece of meat when they're in there they're not doing it for that reason so a lot of times. They're looking for proof of concepts and trials to move the ask. They have a very clear athlete. Can we do a POC? Can we do a trial? How do we get this? The next stage I'd say most companies come out of dream it with maybe one but we hear time and time again is we're accelerating the process. You Got US front of Twenty decision makers over the last fourteen weeks and you have accelerated our pipeline by six to twelve months and by the way the American Express Bien Mellon JP Morgan. That's one day of dream. It will in New York City. They'll meet with those three chief information security officers in one day. It's like I couldn't have gotten a meeting with any of them in the next four months. They won't even return my calls so it's it accelerate that overall business something about an investor. Saying Hey I want you to meet with our latest investments that is easier than a random company because there's so many random companies coming in the front door it's your anointing anointed dream it in these verticals and those customer sprint partners. That don't pass anything by the way there's no money. Changing hands between us and our customers bring partners. It's a IT'S A. I don't know if I can use the term anymore. It's a quid. Pro Quo right. We get our companies in front of great people and our companies. Get a chance to grow. So we don't charge for that because it's like Bullshit dos. It's so valuable for companies. Tell me which other accelerators do you take? No trimming think highly of as we wrap up here I think highly of why see fig some highly techstars those the ones you know sometime startup health a little bit in the health side. Those are the two that that I think about. I like to see what they're doing and I think they do. I think particularly. Why does really interesting great work on? I think it's interesting. Some of their later stage companies they work with and I like what they're doing and bio attack and health and they do we overlap lap overlap and lot areas so. I think those are the two the others like I said to you. I find you see most accelerators around the world and I'm sure you'd have to visit and launched by the way we'll be in there. You guys do is absolutely awesome. Yeah no no but it wasn't. I know you weren't like your you know what the hell you're doing. You see somebody who's accelerators and the person who's running. It has the RHUMBA as a year out of school and they're advising startups on how to build and grind it out without. Do they know nothing that is? There's very few I think most of it's just it's tourism like you call it tourism right. It's on its entrepreneurial tourism and having a bunch of startups in a cool space and it looks all started be and and you do fun things and you serve some alcohol and some dinners and have some great speakers. You're not adding any value. You just kinda sliding around over the place so yeah I think if you if you look at the person running at you just ask yourself. What are. They achieved. Whatever they done in their lives. It's a pretty good. You should be taking their advice. Just generally let alone right Do you come up against why. Combinator is a competitor often. And then. How do you try to win that competition? Sometimes we do. Sometimes you know we have to. We have in our Kirkwood. I think we have to Y C COMPANIES. That are now going through drip. Because they're very focused on like this is awesome. You guys have so much expertise sometimes. Usually it's not head to head and a lot of times. It's also what the value is we look at a startup. Say Look if you're willing to give away in a sense giveaway six percent of Your Company for one Hundred Twenty Thousand One Hundred Fiftieth Forget. The current offer and that valuation is okay. It's seven for one fifty seven percent for one fifty you do that implied valuation. And you're willing to give away. I mean we. Didn't you just raise a dinghy race? Previously a million dollars an eight million cap. You're going to do that okay. We try to make an offer structure dream it. That's not a question it's an Iq test. It's really easy. It's free market value. It spared entrepreneurs is really balanced for them so once in a while we'll come up against the but usually it's not head to head. The timing isn't exactly the same and we can take companies after they've gone through and then go through it again. If it's on one of our verticals that we focus on they focus on everything alright. Continued success. Thanks for coming on the POD and we thank you all time on facts providence. This week in startups bye-bye.

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I'd Love to Start a Ska Band and Play the Trombone

The Dave Ryan Show

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I'd Love to Start a Ska Band and Play the Trombone

"The song. Of the day. St. Song to play. Of the day a the. Shit I play. What he got courses. Start off the morning, Stephen. Father's Eddie first of all. Thank you to yesterday. This song is basically like the person who sings the song, but I love. The song has great Chris. Brown forever I knew going to be Chris Brown forever. Okay, let's forget about the awful person behind it and just enjoy. This reminds me of the office when they ran off, get married. Pam Jim got married to this song on Katie debate. One point three Katie to be an on your smart device sits Katie, WB, good bartending Dave and found Stephen, Jenny. Await a good fathers day weekend. We'll be got together with your father if you are. You know if you are a some people, don't want to get together with my father. He's not a good person, but I had my kids over yesterday and came over all pregnant everything. She's Pop Al. My I was Gonna say that picture. That Susan posted whole man. She got a month ago almost exactly like five weeks to go and I always ask her because she's on that little website. What is the size of the baby now? Her foot is the length of a ketchup packet. All and I was like okay. That's adorable, but that seems like a pretty big foot. Little baby so tiny anyway that having a big pregnant belly looks extra big. Because it I mean it looked comfortable. I hope you're. It was funny is that we've been so distance from her? Because she's so careful and we had dinner last night, and I just got off an airplane I said I just flew. Yeah, do you want me to sit at the counter and have dinner or across the table from you and they? I think I don't know how they were about it, but they said No. Sit at tables so the table. Just don't sneeze on me Ha. Yeah, so we've got a little bit more comfortable. Still know hugs rubbing the valley or anything like that now the call I Yeah, we. We were wondering how your flight one 'cause you flu if you were if you did A. A blog about it, but if you were actually uncomfortable at any point, not really at all. Honestly, it was really good to see more people flying of top the flight attendant, a little bit and She said they're getting busier. visit was on South West. They're getting busier and busier. They're still have to three quarters full. The planes, no middle seat, nobody in the middle seat but that makes it about four four out of six is. That would make it two thirds full, so the flight was two thirds full and on the airplane. You have to wear a mask except when you're taking a drink or eat pretzels because they still give you pretzels, I'll. Give it trouble? No, but here's what happened, so she said you know you're really nice. And you have a sense of humor, because I said something funny, and she laughed, and then she said you know some people don't have a sense of humor. You wouldn't believe the number of people who complain I'm like. What are they complain about? She's like for example. A guy comes to the back of the Galley to see me a couple days ago. who have any alcohol in this light? No, sir, no alcohol on the flight. Oh really, and that's your idea of customer service like shot the front door. Go sit down what his name is not Karen Derek. Go sit down. Perk. Kern Kirkeby. Flight was you're thinking about flying somewhere? The wear your mask and you'll feel pretty good. I mean you know I gotta wait for fourteen days to see whether I've got anything but I don't think I do I will tell you this. When have somebody the secondary to take somebody we know for the first time a directly know who has cove and it is somebody you have heard on our show many times, and we're not gonNA talk to her, but I'll tell you her story an email to I. Thank God. We were GONNA. Talk to her, but she's hurt. She's real bad. So we'll talk about her until you. Her story and definitely one of those people who thought I'm never going to get it. I'm going to go live my life and we'll be back with that story plus a lot more. We have murder. Monday coming up. We have some cool stuff coming up at a couple of seconds. I had that song that I wrote with Julia. Brennan and my sleep, and how that will play about eight thirty stay here, Dave Ryan show on Katie WB very bad week or so. We have Sydney on our show who? Who goes to the U. them and we do a little bit called this week on campus, and usually at Sydney. Talking about partying. And then she was Bunka, she was quarantined with the room mates, and she talked about sugar daddies, and whether she should get sugar daddy and Blah Blah Blah so she is on this week, but things are a little bit different because Sydney from Katie ub has covid nineteen, and it's been really really rough, so we went back and forth with Sydney whether she should even be on the show this morning because she said. Yeah there she is. And allie would've you Sydney I. Don't WanNa. Keep you when you when you're ready to hang up. You can go ahead and hang up. Are you at home with your parents right now, or where are you? I'm at my apartment. My parents live in Chicago okay. I'm on my own with this one. You start. How did how did it come on? What did you start to feel? well last week I had gone on vacation, and as we all know and I had a ton of fun, but I drove last Saturday Oh lonesome Friday and it took twenty four hours to get home, and then Saturday high of course immediately came home, and the campus bars were open and so I went of course, and I woke up Sunday morning and I didn't have a voice. and I wasn't very hungry, but I didn't think anything of it because I had. been partying for a week straight and I felt fine throughout the week. I wasn't really hungry when at like three thirty in the morning, I woke up in it like was like someone had just dumped water on. My, buddy was so I was so just running a horrible fever. Insult very nauseous so I had went to quit care, and they did the Kovic screening, and obviously had been traveling, so they have to justify. Go get tested so I went and got tested and came home and chicken nap. And then that day at like he woke up very very sick and went to the ER. yeah and highs shave. Very, very sick. You woke up with a fever and you just felt terrible. What did it feel like when you said? I've got to go to the Er now I mean the emergency room. You gotta go. What? What did it feel like what we feel? I still had a very high fever, and was just sweating and could not get my body temperature under control, and this is probably like tm I, but I could not keep anything down, not even water. so then I kinda started panicking because if I kept throwing up water, I probably was going to be hydrated very long. Yeah, I was just noxious. I couldn't pay anything I couldn't smell anything. and I kinda knew then that I had sealed the deal on my feet, so they gave you. IV's more than one IV more than one visit to the ER, or what did they? Were you back there more than once? Yeah, I've gone twice and I am kind of winning towards going back right now. Actually because I still not keeping down water. That's like the flu. That's wants him to. While the haven't heard is like not keeping down water to me sounds more like the flu. Are you, so you got the positive testing back four covid. I did and I was Kinda holding on to hope that it was going to be the flu. Maybe I had just gotten like a little bug or something because I. Most people haven't heard like throwing up with it. But we have a family friend. Cova Unit and she said she had seen. People throw up. so I guess it is. A symptom, but there's just so much that they don't know yeah. Yeah I'm writing it out, so we're talking to Sydney Sydney worked at Katie WB and she's on the air with every couple of weeks or so to do. What's new on campus and this week? She's back your ear here in Minnesota. You were in Myrtle beach on vacations that right? I think that you picked it up at a bar. You picked it up at a bar in Myrtle beach or here in Minnesota. Do you think? There are of kids in the area and you've been. Friends are starting to test positive but I wasn't indication so I. Don't know if it's from here. And myrtle beach. started getting like a very large number of cases while we were there, so it is very possible. My daughter lives in North Carolina and she said it's No. It's got blown up there, too, so reopening and then people don't really aren't really careful about it, so would you? I'm not trying to like you know like you know. Put you under pressure anything. Would you say that you were a little less careful than you wish you would have been, or are you okay with your comfort level going out and you know I, mean the does that make sense? Are you going boy? I shouldn't have been so. It totally makes sense I regret I. Think Everything I mean for so long. You kind of heard. That Cova impacted older people rather than younger people and I held onto that. I think way more than I should have. I I like definitely brought this upon myself I do wish I would have been more careful because. I'm if this virus does not care about anyone. doesn't matter how old you are anything and I would not. I would not wish upon anyone, not even people I don't like. Are you feeling better now? We're trying to Sydney. WHO's but she worked at our show initiates cove had Do you feel better now or are you still kind of like in the worst part of it? I have not gotten any better. Okay, okay. Wow, so you're just lay around the day when ever tried to keep things down and stay hydrated and rest, right? Yeah. That's I. Mean That's all I can do. There's nothing they can do for me except you know. Ride it out but I can't get comfortable I'm just I'm miserable because they believe. It's the consequences of my own actions, so you know but. It still sucks. Yeah, it's it's still sucks, and you know what I didn't WanNa try to get I wasn't looking for any kind of admission of guilty or just to be clear, because Sydney is one of those people like many many other people that she's like my son. My, son's not old enough to go to clubs, but he also thinks I'm not going to get it and if I get it, I'll probably be a symptomatic young person yeah. Sydney is what you're twenty, two or twenty three. Twenty three okay, so. Sydney I'm sorry you got it. I'm sorry that you don't feel good. Be If anything from us. I'll send Steve Right old the mass. Thing and you take care and let us know how you're doing okay. All right that's Sydney from our show, who? was diagnosed with Corona virus and she's actually. Let's be honest. She didn't sound that bad except the coughing and I absolutely believe her description that it hurts to open her mouth throat so sore, and she still can't keep anything down and at temperature. Mean if you're one hundred. She was one hundred and two degrees. That's that's got your fire nonstop. You're probably Achey all the time. That's really rough city. I'm like I'm curious because. As bars and things get busier and busier. I went out this weekend but I want to just like restaurant patio, and they have people completely separated and a whole system to even get into the place. Same in some places are different more casual. We'll be back in a couple of seconds. We have Dave's dirt. There was a celebrity that passed out on stage in Nashville and they thought it was exhaustion, and now turns out that he does have covid nineteen I'll tell you about that. One coming up in a couple of seconds, and beyond say re releases some surprise. Release single on Friday. We've got that. We'll be back with Dave's dirt in a sack. Brought to you by country hearth breads don't forget to do your sandwich thing because I'm not sure what the deadline is on how sandwich but if you make your sandwich, make minute long video. Friend of mine did it I think she had her daughter. Do it and I'm like shoot. Yeah, go ahead. She's like can I enter the contest if I'm a friend of yours, I'm like. Yeah if it was Susan Entering Carson No, but enter the contest when a year's supply of bread make a quick video upload. How do you sandwich and it's online Dave Ryan Show? Dot Com keyword contest. d.l Hughley passed out onstage during a show in Nashville on Friday night. Just dropped my gosh. Imagine me in the odds. Be Terrifying. At first they thought it. It was exhaustion and dehydration, and it may have been, but after a battery of tests they found out. He is covid. Nineteen is now on a fourteen day quarantine and it was one of those things. He did a comedy show where it was like fifty percent or twenty percent occupancy. Say What I saw the story I was like wait. Thirty comedy shows again. Yeah, apparently so I drove by in Colorado over the weekend and near Golden Colorado There's a big race track and all these cars are parked out there, and you can see the stands from the road and. and I could see. They weren't really trying to social distance. It was just about full. Wow but again. I don't know it doesn't surprise me that some people are just like. Yeah, you don't WanNa. Go to the racist I. Don't Care Speaking races. Did you about this one? The ONE NASCAR driver who's like black now Let me. See if I can find the audio here. They found a new. Clip. Yeah, here's bubba Wallis here it is, he's like the only black NASCAR drivers. Found in news in his team garage at Talladega yesterday, it happened while he was getting rid rates in the GEICO. Five hundred, which being postponed because of weather, here is a BUBBA. Wallace Nascar senior official told me they're GONNA do whatever it takes to make sure that whomever this is that did. This is figured out. They'RE GONNA look at video and they made the decision immediately that they're going to investigate this to the fullest extent. Steve Harvey called. You can't imagine Steve Harvey called the Black Lives Matter protest one of the greatest moments since the civil rights movement, he also added I'm so sick of racism and so sick of having to deal with it my entire life from now on Taylor. Swift's employees get June thirteenth off beyond say, in honor of June. Eighteenth dropped the new song on Friday. Nights called black parade. Check out this number five. To Safe. Black rate new, music released on Friday night. bad news for I mean for Justin Bieber, but he is denying the accusation of sexually assaulting a woman in two thousand fourteen on Saturday night, a woman named Danielle, said from an anonymous account that just raped her at a hotel in Austin Texas that allegedly happened while he was in town for the south by southwest festival. He denied the whole thing after which that. Account was taken off twitter. He was at south by southwest that year, but he was there with his girlfriend Selena Gomez. He also offered evidence that he did not stay at the hotel where the assault. took place he added. Every claim of sexual abuse has should be taken very seriously, and this is why my response was needed. However, this story is factually impossible, and that is why. I will be working with twitter and the authorities to take legal action. But because of the numbers the opposite of that Danny masterson from that seventies show. With. Rape thing counts, and they said that was covered up partially because of Scientology I. Don't know if that perch true. But what's what they're saying this past week? It's been Chris Lia. The comedian accused of like grooming and messaging underage girls, which is extra messed that Steve Kerr comedian. I. Don't know how you responded to that. Steve but. The weirdest thing is he was in the recent season of you. which is a Netflix show and that's the character. He played a famous comedian whose creepy with underage girls. And so the holy cow, and then I read one yesterday with another young actor like just were ansel elgort. Oh. That one! Yeah! I got that one, too. Just for time limits is not going to mention it, but I don't give you a brief rundown for sure. Hold on one second I'll go back to it here. ansel ELGORT has been accused of sexual assault. Woman identified only as Gabby says. He raped her in two thousand fourteen when he was twenty, and she was only seventeen, and she gives some details. He posted a response saying. Saying. He and Gaby had a brief legal and entirely consensual relationship, but he added that he didn't handle the break-up well, and basically ghosted her, which he admitted was immature and cruel. He said I'm disgusted and deeply ashamed of the way I acted I'm truly sorry. I know I must continue to reflect, learn and work to grow in empathy, but everyone is saying yet, Dude, you're admitting basically and you were twenty and she was seventeen. Legal but yeah daughter This is something a little bit lighter, but still if this kind of on Father's Day Will Smith, explaining the parenting concept of. And a flower, and how that helped him understand when to let go of this kids, and which if you got kids one day? It's GonNa. Happen. It happened with me when cars left for college. My last one, and if you're senior graduated this year, they're going off to college and leaving home this fall. This might help you out here is will Smith is seen all ready is what God designed it to be right. The Gardner is not trying to make the seed become what the gardener wants, right? The Gardner wants to create an environment where the seed can become what it wants to be. Absolutely, we're I'm going to provide nourishment and I'm GONNA. Provide support, but I am not going to. Preconceived what you need to be. There is a real arrogance in that. That's interesting. I've never really thought that way. No, I totally buy in because I think the hands do i. get what he's saying. Your kids grow here. She wants to be but at the same time. I think it's our responsibility as parents to if they're growing into thorny thorny, rosebush point. To maybe change that into just roses or maybe a Cactus, a beautiful cactus house because I caught I mean as Mentioned that you know like nurturing it and kind of obviously, but it's yeah. I haven't thought about it like that. I mean that that to me goes into a deeper argument of like. If it's like the environment or not, you know what I mean will sometimes just bad kids, and sometimes that I can. Somebody who's got a bad kid and you look at the parents and go. You're the reason why you've got a bad kid. Somebody in my family had to kick somebody else out not too long ago out of their house because they had bad kids that they describe does destructive. It's like yeah that comes from the parents and yet destructive kids sometimes, but let's not get, too. We're not child psychologist. We are now DJ is. Coming up. We're GONNA. Talk about anthropology which wondering. Not The store now, but the science, and no, we're not. We're GONNA do murder Monday common up its next on Katie WB. The twincities number one hit music station. Radio, true crime and Dave Ryan shows murder. Monday hi, this is Steve. This is murder. Monday and Mrs called manipulated her. The ocean mysterious. Beautiful, wild, and free. which was probably the draw for nineteen year old Eliza Marian? She grew up in Massachusetts and from a young age fell in love with the tides, especially the animals that called at home. Which is why growing up? She wanted to become a marine biologist. In October two thousand twelve lizzy Mary was nineteen years old, and she had just entered the University of New Hampshire as Sophomore. The school had a great marine biology program and Lizzy was lucky enough to save money live with her aunt and uncle while attending school. Lizzy was your average nineteen year old girl. She attended classes worked part time at target to make extra money, and then on Tuesday October ninth, twenty twelve, she came home from school, walked in her aunt and uncle. Front door yelling I'm home and told her aunt that she was going to a friend's house that night and home later probably around twelve, twelve thirty and Wednesday morning her aunt and uncle realized that Lizzie wasn't home. They thought at first that. Maybe she stayed the night at a friend's house, but by Thursday their concerns became worry and called her parents, and as Lucy's parents drove up from Massachusetts Lizzy Mary car was found abandoned in the parking lot at the University of New Hampshire. Which is one lizzy family realized that they didn't know which her friends houses that she had planned to go to on Tuesday night. Did she even go? We're got out that Lizzie was missing and one of the few friends that she did have was a man named nate who worked at target with Lizzie. He actually claimed to know. Maybe we're lizzy was. Nate says that he had heard that Lizzie had plans to hang out with another one of their co workers from target. A girl named Kat mcdonagh. Cat was a nineteen year old Brighton. Bubbly, aspiring actress, who was well known around town, she did community theater, and she had no nate who she worked with at target since they were both really young nate. Techs cat ask if she had heard from lizzy. He said Hey. Did lizzy ever come over to your house? No one has seen her knows where she is and cat texted back. No I see her. She never came over. lizzy had only been in New Hampshire for a few months, so her pool of connections limited. Please set at a check up and see Lizzie, really never actually made it two cats house. which is when they learned that Lizzie had a roommate. Actually, a boyfriend man named set Zakia. Twenty nine year, old man with dark black hair and Beard Seth worked at a local store, taught martial arts, and actually was trained as an EMT and had met cats in the theater program. The two headed off and ended up moving together. Three days after Lizzie disappearance investigators were convinced that cat and seth knew something. Police brought the to in for questioning at the same time. Putting them in separate rooms. Cat would tell police that Lizzie never came to the apartment that night, after two hours of she was done talking to police. But she never went home. She sat there in the police station waited for her boyfriend, seth who ended up speaking to the investigators for the next eleven hours. Does. He helped me the police build a case against his girlfriend. was there something else going on? Find out next on murder Monday. True crime stories the Div Ryan shows, murder Monday. In the fall of two thousand twelve. lizzy Marianne was a new student at the University of new. Hampshire majoring in marine biology, and after a few short weeks she was befriended by a coworker from target. A girl named Kat. Lizzy had visited cats apartment once before agreed to come over again the night of October ninth to watch a movie. Cat shared an apartment with her boyfriend. Seth and it was the last known place that Lizzie was known to have gone. The two were questioned separately by police and. Cat said that Lizzie never came to the apartment while her boyfriend. Seth during his eleven, our interogations. She came to the apartment and that the three had sexual relations and there was an accident. lizzy died. He admitted to panicking and. Bring her body to a nearby cliff where he dumped it. In, the ocean cat was with the entire time and. He knew it was wrong, but he also admitted to freaking out in the moment. It just seemed to perfect. And understand why investigators dental wasn't. To go back. To your earlier in Can. Met, Seth. Cat South matters the local feeder program. They began dating and right away. Cat began to change. Dramatically. On this bad situation. WAS ONLY GONNA get worse. Cat moved in with her twenty nine year old boyfriend. Seth just a few short days after she turned eighteen. Cutting off all contact with their family, and as investigators began searching for more information, regarding the couple they began finding the couple's names on multiple local bondage websites. The couple especially, Seth. Was Looking for a third partner. Seth told police that it was an accident. That lizzie had come over that night. They watched a movie. Things started to happen between three. and Cap even corroborated at a week later in video testimony. She continued to say that Lizzie. Suffocated and died as she was lying under her on the floor, but the problem for investigators at this point was that they were still unable to find the body. And the charge of murder was going to be quite difficult to prove until they made cat an offer that she just couldn't deny. Cat was facing multiple charges that would land her in jail for over two decades, and the charges were a slam dunk for prosecutors, but there was a bigger fish to fry in Seth Zagla two years later South Magli went on trial. which is one cat. Started to share the story of what really happened that October night. Cap mcdonagh testified tonight included a lighthearted game of strip poker that left her. lizzie Marriott and Seth Azalea with few close on. They started to watch a movie. TAT said sess then pushed for things to turn sexual. He said something that give if if that was okay with her. And she said that it wasn't. He has she was a very a committed relationship. And she just didn't want to be a part of that. mcdonagh testified that Musalia became unhappy. The women were sitting on the floor Mozelle on a futon behind them. She was sitting right next to me. He moved up close finder. So mad and Iraq. CERT- Overhead around her neck. Started pulling on it. She got out a quick noise. And she's. So stopped moving. mcdonagh testified she did. Nothing walked away to the window and looked outside. She then broke down into tears. The prosecutor repeatedly reminded her that she did nothing to help Lizzie. Called say that South Zagla was a control and the TRIPTON grund, cat and Donna. To participate. And even live for him. She says her boyfriend. Seth was the master she the slave, what he wanted another woman. She was ordered to find someone users looking for anyone as long as he would be done that over them. Seth was found guilty of first degree murder by strangulation on October fourteenth twenty fourteen. Sentenced to life in prison while the possibility of parole. Murder Monday you can find out more about this case online right now, Dave Ryan show dot com, he CEO and make sure to subscribe to murder Monday on itunes and iheartradio. Good murder Monday that was a really interesting and sad and strange. Awful and I'm glad the guy is behind bars for life. No kidding what. They played audio and I linked to on my blog page of the guy when they're in jail like a week afterwards and how he talks is so smooth. There's just something about where you could see where it's like you could just. Leave, everything he says you know some people just like that. They're really manipulative and make you believe anything that they say, and because they're social against moved anyway, good murder. Monday find out more online on Dave Ryan. Show DOT COM under Steve. O's blog page also check out our weekend and five photos I went out to Colorado to see my son chase I did not even get a picture of my son. Chase a night to gather, but that's okay. Then I had alison over last night. I got to get a picture of her. Her and I together to, but there are some other pictures on there, including me on the airplane, wearing a mask and also my daughter Allison told me there's an editor whether it's true or not. She said if you go like out in public, run an airplane where like goggles or sunglasses or something to keep things out of your eyes, and so I wore my motorcycle glasses that have a little bit of a seal around there, so it looked like an alien in my mask on the airplane to go check that out valley. Do, you have the picture of the deer thing no I'll tell you really quick I live I. have like most people have. A lot of people have a cabin up north out. Every bit of you'll have cabinet north mark cabin in Colorado in. It's the House that I grew up in. It's nothing fancy, but it sits out in the woods, and so there are deer out there the other day I look out the front window. There's a coyote. I never seen a coyote in person in my life but I'm like that's not the neighbor's dog. Cody and he was stalking a deer. Across the street, and this dear must have been protecting her on because I looked it up and coyotes don't attack dear, but they'll go attack their fonts because they're. So this Mama dear was guarding her fawn, and this coyote was trying to do an end around like sneaking over this way and that deer. was. Not Having it Mama. Dear kicked in and chase that coyote out of a nature movie chase that coyote at full force that deer was passed, and that coyote was like old dern. Took off running and. Fallon everything that you try to capture. On your phone and got it right. Instant you push the button and like I was thinking to myself I got this. This is amazing video geographic. I looked I mean seriously. I thought wow I can't wait to show the people at work. And and I had the hadn't pushed the button class. Coyote zigzagged and took off like a shot and the deer is faster. Yeah, but the Coyote was able to get away. The Mama deer stood there after she chased him like I. Told You I've told you not to mention. Of Warn you. Do Come back get I? Speaking a mom's fallon had a proud mom moment this weekend did olive is so all of a couple of casual almost words? She's almost like she says yeah all the time, but we're like. Is that just a sound? She's making. Yeah, you don't know and she said did like that, so we was her, saying Daddy but she finally said her first word this weekend. Do you want take a guess of what it is. Can you make multiple choice multiple choice? Okay, okay? It is either. I mean obviously Dat Dat is an option. Mama is an option. We have. Crueler crueler. com on cooler. Crueler, not your. Pizza Roll. Tito's cheetos is that the vodka jail? Okay Tito's. Hanging around your mom might be Tito's. Or Bye bye. Bye Bye I'm going to go with bye. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye, bye! That's like the one that they always all the time. You're always leaving cheese Steve Dr. She does do bub-bubba, but that's not. That was not her first worried. Also be bottle to yes. By all right Steve. You'll the audio. Your yes, Sir! Mama? Mama she says Mama. Mama Mama it's really. Of course. But she does it constantly all weekend. That's all she was saying. Oh, it's not wasn't reaction out of you and smiles laughs Oh you bet. Oh, that's police. And of course. My mom is like I. Think she's saying mom I will. I will kill. You could be mammal. Now she prefers I. Don't blame her. That is really cool. Somebody made a gas. They said I. Word Cheetos Cheetos is in excellent guests. That's probably GONNA be word number five Mama Cheetos. Mama. Tito's I'll be honest. Tito's wouldn't be word for us. It'd be more. refree does kind of odd Garrido's cheat, but each and every cheetos name in hot cheetos at least favorite chips out there. Yeah. He'll love. Is Katie WBZ. Hope you had a great weekend. He'll be a good fathers day weekend, chicken blogs. We always put up our weekend in five photos on our blogs. Kinda like show what we did over the weekend and there's some pictures on all of ours. Let me play for you. Really quick some audio just very quickly, It's getting out of control. I'm now reading conspiracy theories about it because I can't take it. This is what I hear every single night starting at nine pm. Always around in my bedroom window. I love this. That's literally the sound of how. Close they are, they are this. This is what I truly don't get. What was this again? This is last night off every single night of the week. It's it's not having night. Is that on week? Yeah, those Saturday who cares you're allowed to shoot off as many as you want Saturday night I don't care, but it's every single night. Starting at the moment is getting Dusky like it's nine PM, so it's not completely but starting to be pretty dark. Nine PM every night until question mark, and they sound like they're in. This is what I don't understand. How can anyone afford that many fireworks? They are like. I am not I. Don't live in a rich area I live in a very. Area of average to like low area actually, and it is like high quality. These are not like some nights. It's just like the fire these from Phantom Fire Robin Roberts Wisconsin. It's something you would see at the fourth of July. Fireworks show. One huge fireworks and they're right by my. Every single night. Maybe you have a firework influence by you. Know No, I figure. I posted. This and I have received every time I check my instagram. I have at least twenty new messages saying that it's happening in their neighborhood to a crazy. I wonder why that is here. Because I've never heard you lived there for eight years or so and I've never heard you complain about it before I hear A. Joke year round. Is that a firecracker or a gun joke about that But now it's just consistent, and it's exhausting I totally understand. I don't I can't explain it. I don't know why somebody thinks. It's kind of like the people who Love Motor Lawn at six o'clock on Saturday mornings. Like I want to get it out of the way, people get up early Dave. Done early I have good sounds for you, fallon some good sounds more practice. This is what we call our favorite musical moment and we're looking for you to do our favorite musical moment. And here's outweighs the part of the song that you always turn the radio up when it comes on I. We've had a million of them over the years. This is not my all time, but I. Heard this the other day I said I love this part of the song. It's by counting crows and Vanessa. Carlton and it is big yellow taxi that that up late last night. Okay, so here's. How goes I? My name is Dave Ryan. I'm from Chan. Hasn't Minnesota home of Buffalo Wild Wings and target? Those very basic identifying. An Park. And my favorite music moment is in the counting crows song with Vanessa Carlton Big Yellow taxi when he goes late last night a her that screen door slam boom, and you hear the slam. Check it out. Last night, her the. That! Screen door. In. Foul moods computers collect. Screen domes. Swam there I love that. Y comes right on the right beat Fallon. Give me your favorite musical moments. Ham Fallon from Minneapolis Minnesota home of all night fireworks. Field so I love in the new Duleep Asong. There's a part where it negative space, so it's like the music goes away on the one, and then comes back in on beat on the two and amplifies. It makes awesome here we go. Jake's very calm like what is that? He said it's very common and funk songs that it would like. Go out on the one, and then it comes back in on the two. It's a very common technique. Theory interesting, okay Steve Favorite musical moment. Hi, my name's Steve Rogers Minnesota home of the crow has park, and also Cabela's. My favorite moment is from ACDC back in black. I did this a long time ago, and it's the very very beginning of the song you hear the. And you here I think it's the drummer Golick well to, and I turned up for this here it is. Yeah, you can hear him. Say Three four whole. That is really cool, so those are favorite musical moment when you hear it on the radio or on your smart vice when you're listening Katie WB, go turn it up. Turn it up, sheesh. And you love that part, so we ask you to participate to do this day. We do it like Wednesday. She said Friday, but yeah okay. So you call the favorite musical moments hotline. I'll give it to you right now. Six, one, two, three, six, one, seven ten. We've got to change the message I. Just changed. And then just say hey. My name is blank I'm from Blink City, and give us a couple of things home of whatever Minneapolis home of all night fireworks, and then describe your favorite musical moment. We'll do that about eight o'clock on Friday, we'll get a week's worth of these things in that'd be kind of cool. Coming up later this hour. Little preview. What's coming up? Remember last Thursday I told you that Wednesday night I dreamed of a song in my sleep so I woke up. And I thought I. Remember it, but if you ever do that, you never. So I grabbed my phone and I record in very sleepy voice the hook of the song. And I'll play the hook. Really Quick Right now. Here's the. Pure! Pure last thirty in the morning. This is pure love, pure love, pure love. This is pure love, pure love, pure love. This is pure love. This is pure love. I great work one of our best musical friends Julia Brennan. I sent it to her and I said Julia. Can you play along? She's a songwriter. She's an artist. She's a singer musician. She wrote a complete song to that. Hold on! Yes, she did she. Do you think that? When she received the Audio, she laughed to herself. It was like Oh, I have no doubt she's so sweet. So. Dave I heard it, and it's beautiful I haven't heard. Are you in the song no? God knows she sees herself. She modifies it a little bit because she's a better songwriter than I am, but I play that for you about eight thirty five or so. Ahead. You and your mind and your dream. It was like the biggest hit. Could it be a hit Is it could I will say some people who heard it over the weekend and they said I couldn't get out of my mind that Hook kept going through my mind all weekend. So maybe it's an earworm. I Dunno other things I actually don't have time for this I'll bring it up anyway. The I-? There's a myth or maybe it's true that if you do this during your wedding. You will get a divorce. Well I sent the actual. Message to you guys in the show sheets so basically. People say if you do this during your wedding, your wedding is then cursed. I was at a wedding. One time it was my nephew and his best band went to pull out the wedding ring. Drop it on the floor, and it rolled down the aisle and I'm not making that up. Roll all the way down the aisle, and I thought Ho man. Is that ever bad omen when you drop the wedding ring? They've been married for fifteen years. Years now they're doing fine. So I got this message from a girl on Instagram, says my sister is getting a divorce. The guy kind of always sucked, but on their wedding day he smash cake in our face. This isn't something that she would like and almost felt disrespectful at the time again now they are divorced. I wonder if other people have seen that or had that happen to them and they ended up divorced. I think it's just so rude and not cute to do that. Just me maybe. You should ask and some, and then she wrote Mexico's just see no. My sister reminded me that the wedding photographer actually took the photo down of it because people like us. That kind of looks like a jerk smash. The, photographer ticket down, so she wants to know if there's any correlation. Of the couple you know that smashed the cake in each other space. It was not cool because there is a correlation, it's because maybe he's disrespectful. World Lady She. Maybe, she is I've never been to a wedding. When everybody's smashed the cake in their face, I've never seen that happen before that I remember. But what about you have you been to a wedding? And then they smash cake? And then they got divorced a year and a half later, or were you the one who smash cake and you got divorced x amount of time later, or maybe you'd like you know what you've been married for twenty years and you're still moderately. Happy I feel like. It's something that they used to do a lot more back. I believe so yeah, so. I think that's maybe a sign, but showing up drunk to the wedding that because that's Christie's cousin. Store. That's a different topic, but you are I had a drink in order to get buried a good man. So, text me or call me at six, five one nine Katie WB. And let me know whether you smash cake. And whether this is true or whether it's just a myth, you can also text me at k. d. w.. One three nine to one, we'll talk about those couple of seconds on Katie UB, and coming up. We get some cool stuff giveaway. We're giveaways her back on, Katie, Levinas, no longer do. I send out just a little message about clip news. Those of those things I. don't care if I get in trouble for saying this I sent out a bunch of them that never arrived to the people who ordered them how it turned out that they went through the Minneapolis post office, which was looted, and they will probably scattered and burn everywhere, so if you ordered a clipper due, and you didn't get it. We're taking. We've had to send out about twenty-five. Free Clinton how, but you can now order the clip. Do Dog Poop? Bag Pouch that says Dave Ryan show on the CY to now. You're going to get in trouble why? Promoted your new product after. Reading your old. Dave I'll do it for you and it's not not gonNA. Go check out the clip and you take them as the Dave Ryan Show logo on it. It's pretty cool I think you can find it on. That's you store. By that you're getting. You're giving away too many because I posted it for like because you posted Dave I posted it to and then ever look. Oh, great went to win. One of those I need one of those boy. You can't win one of these. You GotTa buy it on the US. All five star reviews so anyway so I'm not gonNA. Mention it or anything. Okay, here's A. Here's a starter text message I smashed the cake into my husband's face, but it was super funny married for three years about to have a baby. Another one parents Mary twenty two years. They smash cake in each of those faces. They're very smart very much in love and happy. Here's what I specifically asked him not to smash cake he did. We divorced three years later. That is. Yeah, that's total sign. What about you call me at six, five, one, nine, eight nine Katie Wbz? There's a theory that if you smash cake in the partners face at the wedding. It's a curse and it's not gonNA be. You'RE NOT GONNA. Last long we'll be back with more of that. Coming up on one a one point three Katie wbz. We are talking about when you got married. Whether you smash cake in your partner's face, and whether that's a bad omen or not. Not. Eliot people seem to think it mostly is I get some tax. Messages are friends who shouldn't have been married to begin with. There's another bad omen had their unity candle go out on their way back to sitting down. They had to go back and relied at the entire church was silent. My sister had the the the unity candles. Will also you've depre- light? Because my sister and brother-in-law couldn't get, there's the let and they've been married for twenty two years, but it's. Embarrassing if the Unity Candle won't lighter something good plan, but I smashed the cake in my spouse face because he didn't want to eat it. He leaned in whispered. Thank you my wife both did it. They did it each other. They divorced nine years later. My cousin also did it with her ex husband. They got four seven years later. Here's one. Kind of wedding photographer at a wedding, the bride, slap the cake out of the groom's cheek and ran away. We couldn't find her for an hour. She came back totally wasted. She recently texted me asking if I'd be available to shooter engagement photos with her new fiance. There are there so many of these by the way the original girl that should be the message. She descent a photo. Of The guy smashing the cake interface. It's the most aggressive thing you've seen. She's leaning back I her back like she's an matrix pose Brazi. Shout out to Tara Cain of Rogers. Minnesota she's thirty two years old today from your loving loving partner, heavy birthday Tara. Here's another tax message. been married twice had cake smashed in my face twice divorced twice. Make sense, but it's not always that way. This it's worked out fine. We smashed each other with a cake in the face, found it fun and harmless just got married in November. Though so we'll keep you posted. I would say if I get married again. Let's say it all goes to hell and handbag like fingers crossed. Mary somebody I'm going to say hey. D-. WanNa smash the cake I think you should discuss it in advance and if she's like her, he's like no than maybe a green advanced on, do it. He's going to be. Remarried are GonNa be the guy like an every like Jeddah, Patel movie where you have a kid, but you're like two old. Be having a kid. Khotso. Good luck you should talk with Susan about this during your facebook live tonight and speaking Paul. This is going to be really geared. Ever I can't wait for the facebook live tonight with David seven o'clock. You guys don't speak, but what deed do now. They're going to speak. It was going to be so fake. Like when you have like, it's just like when you have a company Party and you get in a fight with your spouse on the way the party you still have to. We've been there a million times. It's like. We're live. Longer. Company party all my spouse is the best, isn't she? The Band I've never said that allow me. More on yeah rings that out. Statement Anyway Can I? Tell you what we're. Arguing about now. Gives the juice for Father's Day yesterday? She's like what do you want for dinner? I said I want crab legs, so she went out, and she'd been legs. Yeah, and we had Justin and we had my daughter and her husband Justin over and Carson was there and crab legs. We get a diplomat butter. Good butter had turned fallon. I said this butter. Because you butter should taste buttery, not like sour milk. Butter is turned and she's like it has not. It's you and because everything is me being wrong. I'm never right. She's never wrong. It's always me like the time that the dog. Pete all over the furnish all over the couch. No, the dog feed all all over the carpet. In the living room, she blamed the smell. On me sweating, she's like. NOPE, it's issues sweating, so the butter did not turn even though I know. The butter returned, but nobody would admitted it except me. Your flight and they. They didn't say anything because they WANNA. Make her feel bad I wasn't trying to make her feel. Bad is going to go. Get some fresh butter out of the fridge and melted. Fathers and comfortable Alison Justin Carson I didn't make a big deal out of it once. She said it was good. I just sat there and pretended that it was fine. You eat it. Did still butter. Yeah, Oh, my God crab leg! Butter really does go bad when it's. Better I I honestly didn't think that bad. I'm sure it does. It does after a certain amount of time. I don't know how old this was Oh God. It's your you've been saying. She's been trying to kill him. Poison you for a while. You're better was the only one that tasted back. was on Medicaid. That's how you know it was bad. What nevermind didn't make sense because it's old butter? Butter was so always Medicaid. Medicare Steve Medicaid is available to everyone. Out God never mind then. Maybe this butter was a member of the AARP. ADS AARP card or this butter is married to Karen. Something like that. That'd be better all right. I have an idea, yeah. Would you be able to tell what we were talking about? If we played it backwards, so in other words, if Fallon said something, she's like talking to her baby about how adorable she is. Go to sleep. Go to sleep little baby if we played it backwards. Could you tell what Fallon is talking about? Let's play fallon backwards. None of us have any idea what this is here. Is Fallon backwards for like fifteen seconds ago? Oh. But even he. Would be. He Rish the. Baby in there and there's positives there's pauses. That's how I know. She's not ranting about Jake. She's not ranting about Dylan or her mom. She's doing something like Oh. You're such a cute little baby. Mama loves her baby. So that's my gas. Because there the pauses, what played forward and CEELO really was. I live. Is that your baby? Oh. Dave is that your baby? What are you doing? Do you, WanNa read a book. Which? Book Goddamn annoy. You talked to a baby. You talk to a baby and because it was. In there by the way, somebody says butter does go rancid. Okay, so thank you for you to do more of these in a second. I'M GONNA play. I think Stephen. I both have won is Jenny off the off. Okay play Steve's and guess what Steve is talking about here, Steve. Marsh Dale from the. Box Earth. Yeah Good Luck. He is complaining about something deathly complaining probably about Christie and hero more time Yup. Marshall Elton Sny box Earth's. It fell. Complained about something, we'll find out the second also. We've got the song, Julia. Brennan wrote an actual song to my little chorus. This is pure love pure. Pure love is is pure love pure. Pure love. This is pure love, so she took that stupid little lyric, and she made a song out of it. Played it and recorded it this weekend and we will hear it for the first time ever in about five minutes and you'll see what can a magic. She worked on it. A Julia Brennan recorded my Song Pure. Love Your Love Your love and we'll hear her version. She's local artists and. She's amazing, so we'll see what she did with I'll tell you more about that. In a second I, OH, little experiment! Could you tell what someone was talking about? If you listen to what they said backwards, so here's Steve recorded and played back backwards and odd Marsha. They alternate sny box eric now. I know Steve Well enough. He's complaining about something because he's got a little mutter in his voice. Everything? I, hate, everybody. I hate my job and I hate you and your tone down like that. You know what you're a mutter to it. Played Back Steve. I'd love to start Scott Band and play the trombone in it. I should've just. We should have said like a thing like he's talking about something dushi. Okay. Dave Jennings or Jenny's. Yours jetty backwards. Foss Zeon knees your Thurman Guide Your Wish German. Brushing I'll remind each. For Your family. Yes, no novelist velvet. She sounds Fredge touches on German maybe that to. Hear it again. You're foss. Zeon your Thurmond. You're at Rushton. I'll women each after refugee. Status Anomalous Z. The. She's not angry I. Think she's talking about something sexual, or above the holy agree something sexual. She does have a little bit of a Lilt to her voice, that somewhat sexy. But then again she might be talking about like I. Don't know her boyfriend, or let's hear back and see what she did. I love cheese so much guy you. My three favorite types of cheese number one is sharp cheddar number. Two is pepper, Jack and number. Three is a nice soft bree. Yes, you've got sex with the BRIE. Maybe uncomfortable, basically sex okay for. Four play with Jenny talking about cheese. She's from Wisconsin Kay. Let's do here's me. Recorded it, and now playing it backwards. SNAKING NUMBER LESS NOMA has synopsis. EARNED, the sneaks view suicidal or near fate and West. Law or I had an. Your offer vendors, saying Moos and They're all thought east. It's GonNa. It's the. Last now my hair sent opposition. Ya got shut up like I god. There's a positive tapped your voice. You're not talking to or about Susan. I Either talking about Planning Ukulele. Yes, how relaxing! It was when he was planning Ukulele, or he is talking about flying I feel like he's telling joke along. When did? I gave jokes. You are wrong here. It is I just WanNa say how much I love. My kids and I to see all four of them on the zoom meeting yesterday for Father's Day and they are all so different, but they are so sweet each in their own way and I. Just WanNa. Say How much I love my kids. I was walking I did that. That said why sound out of breath. So. Really, there's no, unless you really try. You really can't tell what somebody's saying. I could tell with Fallon's because she had you tell that she was causing time to a baby. Yeah, Steve was dot, talking about being depressed or anger. He wants to former Scott band and play the trombone coming. That is usually what I'm like angry or depressed when. All Right, I think we're take a quick break here when we come back. the song that I wrote in my sleep. The other day is now off. It has taken on a new life and Julia. Brennan has recorded and written it, and produced it and played it, and you'll hear it next pure love for the first and maybe last time any window world premiere of pure love next on Katie, the other day Wednesday night I went to bed and woke up in the middle of the night about two thirty in the morning with a song going through my head, and in the dream, a little kid sang this song to me and I was like Oh. That's catchy so. Pure loves. I woke up and I reported it on my phone. Pure love pure. Thirty! This is pure love, pure love, pure love. This is pure love. This is pure. Love turned it off went back to sleep lar- next morning. I send it to Steve I told. Steven you the stories like. ooh! And he's listening to it and I could see him because we had like a video monitor I could see cackling and laughing cry Lampe Song. So, we played it it has we even have both been singing at all morning. It is a little catchy. and. We asked I got a whole Julia. Brennan, WHO'S A local artist? She's actually signed to Columbia records, so she's legit and I said. Can you take a crack at this songwriting of verse and the Chorus? And I sent it to her and she didn't answer. Then I realized I forgot to say who I was. She's like Oh, now it makes sense. Yeah, here is what Julia. Brin came up with pure love on Katie wbz. Nobody. Can Count The Times. They've called food. Save got so much time. Ryan. Way To. Talking about the. Yard. I'd rather. Many feels like. This. Yana. Hit. But she's. Avenue. And there it is. Did you do a great job with it, I. You do that. Super Hacky into something beautiful. Yeah, he's talented that way Steve. Sierra online at Julia Brennan. Music on Instagram, somebody just texted Holy Blanca Julia. Such, great job, and then somebody said you guys got to do that Gimmicky thing that Iheartradio and play to the top of the hour. And it'd be something like Hi. It's Dave Ryan and here's me and my friend Julia Brennan's Brand New Song Hope you like it on Katie Wbz K. W. DWP and then we'll play the top of every hour. Instant goosebumps I love it. How do I download this song? We're GONNA. Put it up on Dave Ryan. Should I come on your your blog right there? Yeah, there's a full version. That was the short version. In case, people didn't like it then you would only have to listen to the short version, but she did longer version to hear the longer version like actually play at some point or Young? Play it at the top of the hour brought to you by clip. Deal says that Song Love. That song love needs to be on Itin tints pure love. Okay, get that title, stranger. Here. By Dave Ryan featuring. Live with Dave Ryan, featuring Julia Brennan. Maybe should be offices He can't even thank. You songwriting credit. That's it. But. I love how it's like. She's twenty two years old. She's in love already telling her that stupid foolish, and then they dream about the trip to New York that they're never gonNA take. I part listen. Nine to. Do. This. Is. Pure. Answer. Of. Others. But this is. The texter growing in love that song a needed on itunes or something pleased wt how she's so talented. Great Song a purely love this song, Dave. OMG! Tears, pure love. That's amazing I. Love this Julia Brennan Song she needs to release it. Maybe give you some songwriting credit days, but but but you're. On the list because they wouldn't was the last time you were twenty two I mean. Truly, is that right now? She better give you credit day. When that song makes a pig we should run it by some local record company and see what they think because If I can make like five ten bucks on this song, I'd be pretty happy with it. That's like. That's like Jimmy. John's right there. Is it yeah well? It's not like a big sandwich. Fence, did you make Julia sign anything before you just gave her those lyrics over? No should I have La-? Attorney so maybe you know what you're talking about anyway. Let's move on and we'll play it again the. Full version top of the hour. How about that full version top of the hour? And the will also. Try to get Iheartradio play it on every radio station at top the hour. To doubt is going to happen. Here's a legit song by a legit that June it hit on semi-legitimate radio station. It's Katie WBZ with the weekend. This is Dana from Austin Texas and now it's time for Dave sturt on one. Oh, one point, three K. D. WBZ! Thank you Dana I wonder how she discovered our show in Austin Texas. You're listening on Iheartradio and I think I. Don't know what the majority is I think so many people listen on the car radio regular radio, and there are so many people that listened to the stream like on iheartradio or their smart device or whatever. There's a ton of people that listened. On their own schedule on the. Because you don't have to get up early, listen to the Dave Ryan in the morning show. You can hear the podcast later in the day. I mean that's not just a rumor, right? That's not a rumor Dave. That's true, but I'm told. How do you do it anyway? How do you listen to it later in the show? Dave ranch dot com click on a ranch podcast network, but you can just look on its on spotify on iheartradio. It's on Apple, I tunes, I mean you name the podcasting platform and you can find it. Just look up, Dave Ryan show and subscribe. What did you do for your twenty third birthday I think that I went to. A restaurant Las Vegas with my girlfriend Cathy and. It's still there and when I see it. It's like Oh. That was my twenty th birthday twenty third birthday. The twenty second one I had was terrible. I'm re twenty I of course but I. don't remember a Combo of things in between the reason I bring it up because Leonardo. DiCaprio's girlfriend turned twenty three, and they gave her pre memorable birthday bash ana a mega yacht, not just not, but a mega yacht remember he's forty five s weird. He and his twenty three girlfriend of both wore cowboy hats, staying true to the party's Western theme, but only Leo was photographed wearing a mask Her name is Camilo and she was also barefoot. Who writes this garbage? She was bear who cares whether she was barefoot. She better be. She's on a freaking yacht. Well, details make the story Dave. WHO also is there? You know they party with Shaun white the flying tomato. Rancher snowboard Yeah Yeah Kevin Connolly. Was There Lukas? Haas show there on a mega yacht which I don't even know what a mega yacht would look somewhere between a carnival cruise ship and a Yarn Lake Minnetonka I think so somewhere. It's the middle. Child Size Oh God and you know about the middle child broad. Beyond honesty is using their platform. Sign a spotlight on black businesses. She celebrated June teeth by dropping a new song called black parade profits from the track will benefit bay be goods, black business impact fund administered to support black owned small businesses. Minority owned. Businesses are hurting more than your regular small business. I wonder why that is. The obviously the reasoning. No GIG is too small for job rule these days go on major festivals, tours and concerts been canceled. He's still performing at private parties. There was some spinach on social media from a socially distance Suare at a house. In new, Jersey, he performed his hit side like I'm real for what looked like a small group of women who came the Party so if you're gonNA, have jaw rule performing your home. He's taking bookings during the via the icon agency though he claims he's not cheap. I. Wait for fifty cents to take a shot at. Instagram somehow just. Even though it's like okay. How would it be if you had a pool party and JAL role came out. That'd be cool and pretty cool. I mean I wouldn't leave him at first I'd be like this guy come on. He looks like John or we'll go sounds like to unique voice. It's pretty hard to do. It's not really that unique. He's just raspy. Dave can do it. No no, he doesn't. Don't put me on the spot I am not going to do. Is Go to. Me? That's what he sounds like he saw. He does sound like a basil deeper than you check this out. Family camped out for twenty seven hours to adopt a dog and just to make it more precious. The dog has a heart shaped patch of hair on his chest. Check out this audio here. We go took them. I don't know what's number two number two. I've seen people asking. If the dog Measham Austrailia I mean it's it's just gone all around the world and I really can't believe that. We get the opportunity to like actually about the dog and we're excited. It'll be going to a good home. shout out to all new dogs or new catch. That are there new forever home? I know several people that must be the season or something. I think people want to adopt a dog in the summertime because. You've got time to take it out for war and train it to go outside. The dog does not leave adopted dog in January in Minnesota the dog. Outside. So welcome to your future, your little cat in the house. Check this out at the espy awards snoop honored Kobe Bryant in a song. The SP's were online night. Here's number seven your weather. In your heart and your brain? Trying to learn, it's rain. High swatting defames yet hang Auburn Elaine covering the campus which at night in a picture to end up a fixture. To Law as for any foreign. You'd be asked by. All Britain no smiled a new golden. Less doing moms staff. There's a guy who an sounds exactly like. He did when he was like twenty two years old. He looks very similar to what he looked like. No, he doesn't look I saw. Does I saw him backstage at Star Party or Jingle, ball on a few years ago, and he's very tall, but he did not look good, and he looked really thin and not healthy. I think he's always looked like that. I think you're right. You probably pretty a little unhealthy was in his twenty. Probably. Hey, check this out. iheartradio and P. and G.. R. Inviting Lgbtq plus members family friends, advocates everywhere to join. The can't cancel pride helping lgbtq plus people in need. It's a virtual relief ever created response to the COVID nineteen. The effect it's had on the LGBTQ plus community join iheartradio. Radio Stars some of the biggest names in culture entertainment including Adam Lambert. Kim Petrous who came to star Party or Jingle ball a few years ago. Harry Melissa Ethridge C., Ricky Martin and more you can watch this Thursday at nine on the Iheartradio facebook or instagram pages and find out more go. Do can't cancel pride dot, com do not try to put an apostrophe and can't. 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After this on Katie, WBZ, once in a while the radio station will lie, you know. Get a little like a new music from Selena Gomez or Justin Bieber or somebody like that and we'll play the top of every hour. I don't think my boss rich is ever going to go by the way out rich happy birthday today. I don't think he's ever going to go for US playing to the top of every hour, but this is when it's our show. We will play the top of every hour that for the next hour, and then one hour after that, so this is a song that I partly wrote in my sleep and Julia Brennan local artists did the rest of it, so I came up with the this is pure, pure pure love sang into my phone, the middle of the night, the other night, and then woke up, played it for Steve. Steve was cry laughing when he heard how bad it was. Julia Brennan local artists put it together and this is her song. Pure love on Katie W. Got So much time. Talk. About. Other. To. The, Only. Sean. This is. I. Always got to explain. Really make sense. Nice. I don't know what they need. feels. A. Say of way to. Church. Soon. Feels like. This is pure. This is. Not. But this is. Know. but yes, that is Julia Brennan and she put together that song. That's why you've probably never heard it before. She wrote it on Saturday. She said it took her thirty minutes to write the song. This could be the wedding song of Twenty Two thousand twenty twenty one. I hope so. I think that what we need to do is have a string arranger. I'm getting big visions here. I love that string, arranger, stringer rage, but with string section in there in the background. And tiffany I think every good ballad needs a temporal. Love pure promised me. You're not going to try to like convince anyone that there needs to be a Ukulele on. This song actually doesn't. I'd say. If I was to say tiffany or Ukulele I believe okay, well, never mind. Ola, Hold on sorry. His pure does he want? His Tula. Oh there it is. So much on that thing. Started and he could not get it to rest on his arm, and so he clink attitude, and is it fell off his are now. You've gotten so much. It was good enough for George Harrison from the Beatles who actually did say, everyone should have and play Ukulele. Did he really say making up? On my children, he said that I can actually I saw it the other day. Because I was. Sorry I had to look up something I saw George Harrison. He said it, and he actually wrote it in a note, and I can tweet it to you. Every person should play the. Everybody he said on February. Second Nineteen Ninety nine. Yep George Harrison. It says. Everybody should have and play. It's so simple to carry with you, and it is one instrument. You can play a not laugh. I suppose that's so sweet and also very old. Yes, are made of wood. Some are made of Armadillos I. Love them the more the merrier. I got a do it yourself. Ukulele Kit for Father's Day yesterday and I was really excited till I saw. Pieces are in their. Own. Getting the Dresser for my Kia opens up go. This sounded like a good idea. Never bought a dresser for my. Talking about that I've heard the stories, my daughter Alison. And her husband just got and I baby dresser for their babies. That's a good idea. He said the robot hundred pieces I. Don't know if he's exaggerating. Tim took him four days to put it together I have never and never will set foot in Nikea. Yourself Furniture said that people attack me. They have the best instructions because they are any specific link language. I'm like I understand that outlook, but they have like pictures and you're like wait. What part is that? It's the they're the worst instructions they're known for their known for terrible structures that take hours and hours together, but quote unquote. You get with Trae, for because lot cheaper to get furniture. True, can't you like by and then hire somebody to come by your house and put it together. Do. They also do. You can pay them to do it, too. Oh, really okay. Good to know all right. We'll be back in a couple of seconds on Katie be. We were going to do war of the roses? Do we still have time where we need to take break Stephen and We. We don't need to take a break. Okay, let's do. Let's get right to it on pizza. Point Three WB. Day Ryan tells more of the Rosen brought to you by totally Tana's. For War of the roses on Katie WB now again halfway through the roses between part one and part two. We want to hear from you to figure out and predict whether you think. that. The accused will. Choose the right person or not, so in other words we wore the roses. You listened to it all his deathly GONNA. Cheat he is definitely going to send the roses to the wrong girl, so listen to this roses than halfway through. We'll take your calls and you guess whether or not she will pick the right person out. Because this time it's a woman that's on the hot seat and we're talking to Logan about his girlfriend. She'd been around. You've been seen each other for about a year and a half right Logan. Right okay so what? Is Your suspicion are several things that are going on one started about a year and a half ago. What happened? So I mean this is early. This is early on in our relationship so but. She went with a group of friends to this Say the name Ix this country music festival, right rank and showed up hooking up with this guy That's just friends with and It was early on in a relationship you know. She didn't tell me I had to find out about it. And then I confronted her, and she said that yes, they did happen. but it was so early. You know like I said it was like two weeks in so. For. Chad okay! I. I'm sorry. One of those countries shows where he's drinking all weekend and sleeping in tents. I mean I. Don't know if there was something going on prior whatever I don't know. I was I said okay. You know whatever I. But. Then recently for Thanksgiving she. She went back and she saw a family and Duluth right, so she came home and You know she was getting changed and I noticed scratches on her back. And I thought. Strange and so I asked her Wyatt the scratches on your back and she said there from her niece. I just again i. just let it go. I didn't really think much about it, but I would think about that one because I'm going to be honest with you. If Susan came home, my wife came home, and she had scratches on her back I'd be like I. Look at them more closely, and I'd be like okay. Let the hat. What position was the scratcher in? Were they in front of you and pulling their fingers? Seriously okay because I mean. But what did it look like to you? That looked like a kid in her were rough housing and scratched her what? I. You know I. Don't know I didn't WanNa start looking at it really closely, you know. We've been. You know because I asked her finding out about that. You know she says Oh you're you're, too. Suspicious on time, and it's yeah, so I want to start a fight so I've been I didn't push it, but I mean it is strange. Right? It's it's a Nissan. You know doing scratches like that on just. It's real weird I, mean I've roughhouse with my kids and my nieces and nephews over the years and I mean. I guess it's possible. But it's just okay. I got it. So. Yes, so so okay. Well, what's happening now is You know they're her and this of friends. which you know, you can tell, I don't really trust already. Her descrip- offense going up to. It's nice to meet. You invited me to go with something. I can't go because I'm working. So I'm nervous that you know it's going to happen again with the same class, so she's going with. The Guy. The guy's going up to his name. What's his name because we need to listen for that name? Brand. So, if you. Have, you're going to do you know. She mentioned a guy named brand. That's the guy. Yeah and so I I don't know I mean. Okay. That makes sense so we'll figure out something we will call and see. Whether she mentions his name or your name, which is Logan? Is this ray. She masks calling hi. This is allison with. Are you doing? Very, well. How are you wonderful? So we have you scheduled? Who is staying with us this weekend? I wanted to confirm your reservation and also let you know about a great special running where we're offering those staying with us this weekend, a free massage or two, and then you get a bottle of wine with it our our way of saying, thank you for saying with us. Wow, that's. Really Great I'm actually actually not going now this weekend, could you? Could you get I? Give You my son Lillian contact information. Does the unless you really love it and What's going now? Yeah, we had four name down for the reservation. Yeah, there's a change in plans and I. Actually am not going anymore, but but could i. get you permission so she can take advantage of this type of great. Race Logan. Yeah Hey. What do you mean you're not going? You told me you're going to like as a this morning. You told me her going. Why are you going? What is going on what is now? What is going on? Why are what I would? This is a call from the resort. And though are you fun? Ray while you lying to me why? Are you going to see brands like. Why don't you tell me what's going on? Logan? What are you? What don't you tell me what's going on? What is this these seriously accusing me of something right now. Three way calling me or doing a mean girl. We'll listen you told me. What, what are you doing like? What are you doing? What is this? What is this that you're doing? Will you be honest with me honest with me? You're not being honest with me. You set me up Ray Ray. This is a radio. Yeah. I'll jump in Ray this radio station. My Name's fallon I'm not with the resort I'm with Katie WBZ and Davis here also. And basically we do this thing and will receive. People are cheating to sum it up. It's called war of the roses, and he wanted us to see who you would set up a couples massage with since he couldn't go to. The cabin with this beginning was worried about brands being your couples massage choice, and then now he finds out. You're not going to the cabin this weekend. Even though you told him as of this morning, you are you know what Logan this is a new low for you? Okay, I am thinking. Brentwood over a year ago. It was you forgave me for that. Why are you still holding onto this and and I didn't even take the couples. Trying to get the Lillian couples massage not blend. You have it. You said I think Logan's Day by the way in and said we'll wait as of this morning. You are still going to this like weekend with your friends, but now you're saying that you're not going, so it makes all of us. Wonder was the trip to Madden's of cover for what you're really doing. This weekend. I was just trying to get lily a massage because she needs it more than me and I don't understand why. Off? The massage. Yeah about trying to trap me on the radio, trying to catch me in some like I'm doing something wrong. You have not forgiven me clearly his whole me. You're going on this trip and now you're not. Why are you lying to me? Just tell me where you. Why are you trying to trap me on the radio? I don't understand. Logan I I don't I, don't? She's not asked. Me Not not a more. Can I ask? What are the what are the problems he had ray was. You came back from Thanksgiving with scratches on your back that you said you got from wrestling with your nephew? Did because. House and he wants to be a cat. I, don't know what. Ray You told me was your knees. Lied to me. You. Did you did say it was your knees the first time? The first time it was a couple of the time. I don't know what to tell you this is this is gonNA. Give I can't believe you would deal. You're so selfish. We're selfish I'm selfish. Yes, you're selfish. Trying to humiliate me on the radio. If you try to ruin a weekend with my friend, he tried to made me like I'm a horrible person. That's always team for ruining. Thanks for ruining a year for me. Okay? Thanks, how about that? Yeah. By Arthur Stiller's hey, remember the take a look at the other states that have seen surges during the pandemic in the last couple of weeks, maybe like Florida open beaches a little bit too aggressively too soon, or whatever I don't know exactly what caused it, but just remember. We're not out of the woods, planning jet and I think that some people forget that, and that's the people who get sick. I'll be honest. You Sydney was probably thinking that she was out of the woods are are. Are promotions, person and She admitted herself. It's like I wish I would have been a lot more careful. She is down hard right now with over nineteen, and she thought at twenty three years old that she's really like would be no big deal, so remember I'm not trying to preach at you, but just remember. We're not out of this and science behind it. Somebody's like Mash Kaj more harm than they do. Good I, said really so you're telling me that when you get surgery. You prefer that everybody in the operating room. Not where is that what you're telling me, so you're telling me that when you're ninety. Grandma's in the hospital with pneumonia that it's better that you go in without a mask. Is that what you're trying to tell me more harm Dave? I mean scientifically. That's why there is such a bad surgeries back early nineteen hundreds because they didn't work gloves, so they went from one body to the next body, and that's how they past infection, and that's why so many people lost limbs and such. Yes. Especially, a guy named Dr Pine doctor time go to famous Dave's. I. He come over and operate. Guess what's under his nails? Barbecue barbecue sauce. They have so many different flavors. I know exactly. They never determined that one move on Okay so good boy! We're going to get Dan jains. Barbecue and expect me not to be interested in. Barbecue. Singer who's done shows at Disney for the last forty years? He's done shows at Disney for forty years and Disneyworld. He is ridden his bike over three thousand miles during the pandemic just share friends and Co workers by performing in front yards, awesome I was thinking that we should do Grad party crashes like the three or four of us from the show should pick a Grad party every week to crash. Come by social distance. Throw out some Katie would be masks around CACTUS. Brothers could show up and be perform why we're not allowed to. Handle anything we're. Not Allowed to. Go, we're not allowed you are. They're being very strict on like promotional events and stuff. You're trying to get out of it, screw. Ben What Felon we all drew straws? You got the one in Mankato wipe. Together think about it. We all go together. Now valid always gets the one that's close. Be Be I. Think most graduations are old. Know you guys are. Ignorant is what you are hearing. Read parties go on all summer? Let Trust me they do well I, believe you. I'm just simply saying they didn't do that. Where I'm from is get it out graduated where you're. Forty seven year, old sailor from Argentina was in Portugal. That's you know if you don't know the geography Portugal's in Spain across the Atlantic from Argentina. All the lockdown started and couldn't get a flight out, so he jumped on a boat and sailed three thousand five hundred miles home, just a right out the of with his elderly parents. He just got home. The capital of Latvia just installed the twenty foot statue last week to honor healthcare workers have called medics to the world, and is a doctor wearing a face mask and gloves with their arms outstretched. I think that's cool. The same thing that there is a big parking lot somewhere where they did like the you spray paint, and did like a huge like neural man, you can actually see it from the skies very allow. What's the Mayo Clinic one that you have to it here in a second? Company in China says the vaccine has been testing. A company in China says the vaccine it's been testing appears to be safe and effective, and could be ready by the fall. However China's lied about so many different things lettuce so i. don't know whether to believe that, but here's something really good from the Mayo. Clinic, which is legit treatments using plasma from recovered patients appear to be working. They are not done testing yet. Yet, but the mortality rates are lower and only one percent of people who had a plasma injection have had a bad reaction to it, so that's kind of good news out of the Mayo. Clinic finally. This is a totally different one. It's not about the pandemic. It's about being the cool house into neighborhood because every parent wants to have their house be the cool house. I don't WanNA provide food for all of the number one the last number one less yeah. You gotTa have good snacks and we've always kept up a great supplies snags when Carson friends come over Susana Bacon chocolate chip cookies, but they don't come over anymore. They go to a different friend's house because you guys are. She had pot cookies. Mom knew what was what they were into I. Don't know, and I've asked him. What's the appeal of going to the house? We got everything you need. We've got great snacks. A Ping Pong table a giant TV privacy. You're in the basement. You're not there I that I don't know his answer is, everybody goes to their house. Okay, we'll invite. Already of Your House will water coats too far, okay? Maybe, it's too far number one good snacks. You gotTa have good snacks. E can't have the kids come upstairs to go. What do you got what we got? Some snow peas in the refrigerator? What. I mean your house isn't going to be the house. No, it is, you don't have sugary. Sugary treat kids these days that are young. They don't care about that sort of stuff. They care about the great things like that. You straws and smart Bobbin and. You're so. Wish also have video games cable pool the well. You don't have to have a pool, but this is going to make your house a better chance of being the house. different toys than I had so for example. You see I come over to your house and you've got toys that I. Don't have for example. You Got a light bright, or you've got I. Don't know a pinball machine. I tell you I got to stand up arcade game with like all the old Retro Arcade Games in a couple years ago and I thought Carson. His buddies would love it. They don't even look at it now. Arcade Retro Arcade Games. What about trampoline is that on there? It's not on the list, but it should be yeah, because most people I mean, you might have like a small pool and Katie Kinda Pool, but if you have a trampoline, that's the thing that multiple people can do. Do. You had it when Carson was. You know what you're right. I remember you reminded me and you're absolutely right. When Carson was like everywhere from about fourth grade to early high school, his buddies would come over a basketball hoop tied like mounted on the side of the trampoline, and they loved it. They would be did they would just sit out there for hours on the lean, and then you get in high school and you're too cool to go on the trampoline very often so. Our neighbors have it and all the kids in the neighborhood are always bouncing on it to go. speaking of which isn't Jenny GonNa do live jump roping this week on her facebook live. I'm doing a facebook live tonight at seven with my wife Susan just like walking around the neighborhood or sitting on the couch. Whatever is Jenny doing? Jump Roping this joke Friday at one, o'clock, Jenny used to be used to compete with the jump roping team when she was in school, and she actually has really good jump rope. She actually asked her for advice last week because. Because I've been trying to do. Jump Rope and I can do obviously two feet I can do one sleep but I don't understand how she does like the running jump rope I. Don't know how she's going. Do facebook live? That'd be so wended. People talk unless she just during a performance and ending it I hope she's doing war. Find out what time is that one o'clock on Friday show facebook fan page Gotcha okay tonight I'm on with my wife Susan at seven o'clock on Dave Ryan in the morning show on facebook coming back. We're running so late for days dirt. Dave. Let's do it right now on Katie. Hi, this is Angie listening on iheartradio in new, Orleans Louisiana, and now it's time for Dave sturt on one to one point, three K. D. W.. Less than here anymore. 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Then it was murdered Hornets, and now there's something else coming at you. It is a giant Saharan dust plume traveling nearly five thousand miles to the US. It's headed for the Gulf coast this week. You really can't make this stuff up from hazy skies and breathing issues where people with allergy and asthma, the drier atmosphere. We'll have some benefits. Benefits like sunsets guess this week, states and the Gulf from Florida taxes are GonNa see beautiful sunsets with amplified colors of orange and red. They're going to be great for your instagram's. If you're listening down there, but really bad. The dust plume all the way from the Sahara. That's crazy. I thought you were going to say because here's what's been happening where I love. The fireworks. Are the next thing for where I love keeping me up all night, and then also people trying to steal my credit I've gotten so many voicemails and calls from people lately because people, he China apply for credit cards in my name. Man. He's covert, not enough. I gotTA. Worry about my credit I got to worry about getting no sleep and a baby in dogs getting terrified from fireworks every night. What the hell is happening during that storm was shaking I've never felt a dog shaped like he did when that saw this weekend. Yeah Yeah. yeah about making a run to Roberts. Wisconsin the says like sometime this week to get them illegal fireworks person. That person balanced neighborhood. WanNa full firework show just go park and Theo worth and watched everything nine PM. It's free. You're gonNA find out where these people are Fallon. It's probably people. Okay. We can keep moving with dirt, K.! Justin Bieber isn't keeping quiet about those accusations of sexual assault. You heard about this one on Sunday. He launched a tweet storm in an attempt to clear his name after two different women accused of sexual assault. He says I don't normally address things. I have dealt with random accusations my entire career, but after talking with my wife and team I've decided to. To speak up on issue tonight, he went on to acknowledge that he did appear at South by southwest in Austin in two, thousand fourteen, which is when this woman claimed that he raped her, but he pointed out how he went to the show with his then girlfriend Selena Gomez and did not stay at the hotel where this woman made the accusation on March ninth or tenth of that year he says furthermore I stayed with Selena and our friends at the Airbnb on the ninth, and the tenth stated a Western because our hotel reservation at La Quinta And, not the four seasons was messed up. Here are the receipts for the hotel on the tenth. Wow, wow, I think most shocking thing is that he stayed at a look into in and I was surprised by that I. It must have been sold out. Sold out might be so that is the second woman. She posted about that alleged assault on Saturday. She claimed she met him there and then after. He fired back. She deleted her tweet and I think deleted hurricane. Years ago when he was accused by that woman of like. Her, and then he, he actually the task, or whatever to prove that she was lying, and she absolutely was lying, took her to court like the whole testimony that was super awkward to watch because he was like that thing where you act real tough with the lawyers and the route to them. That that, you don't remember that day and I don I'm sorry. Scarlett Johansson is feeling the pressure to remain thin. And she says it's gotten much worse in recent years. It's not only her but other big name. Stars have to maintain a slip figure glamorous look. She told the magazine. There's always been pressure on actress. Stay thin. There's a scene in one of my favorite films all about Eve where Betty Davis has circling around the room, horribly upset about something she picks up. A chocolate puts it down. Picks it up again. Puts it down by she gives in and eats it, but only after a huge struggle so even back then there is the pressure going on, and now it's much worse while. Here's post below has been ranking raking in the dough with his new venture of selling. Wine Oh host deserves a toast. In fifty thousand bottles of wine in two days. Presale for his new boost brand mason number nine. It's a French rose as. Good, though of course, people are going to buy it initially because it's his, but then like what are ports. Is it actually good? You know that's twenty two bucks a bottle. Which is the high for me? That's pretty expensive. I usually find something under five bucks. I'm pretty happy with that one white, and then we've got a couple of little piece of audio here that want to mention to you. You know what we got to give away. We're going to give this away. 'cause, this is so cool we've got. it's urban air adventure park passes to give away we dylan's birthday party there allows was so cool and all. We didn't even see the kids stave Isaac and Olivia to both of them. It's incredible and. Then I didn't see jake and his sister and brother for a while and next thing I know they're on zip line the entire park. That's jake spot. I love it. urban areas the largest indoor amusement park in the twin cities West Metro area with over sixty eight thousand square feet of thrilling family, fun, attractions and featuring the nation's first. Up go-carts with speeds of up to twenty miles an hour. Visit Urban Air Plymouth Dot Com. That's Urban Air Plymouth. Dot Com to learn more about it. See Pictures, and all kinds of stuff and book your next level adventure. It's perfectly safe. They're keeping everything safe for you and for their staff at I want to make sure. Your adventure. How do you win this? Jesse now. Point if you live in Osceola. You might not make it all the way over, but I'm glad you're listening Osceola, but if you want to go to Plymouth and get this, here's what I want I. Want a kid on the phone. WHO's up already and sit around board so if You're a kid on the phone. I'd say under eighteen years old. Yeah, get you over there. six, five, one, nine, eight nine Katie WB. If you're under eighteen years old, just won't pick a random person. Six, five, one, nine, eight, nine Katie, wbz to win tickets to go to urban adventure of from Katy. Davis watching UKULELE video. Dave Emily grabbed his ukulele microphone headset. I've watched that video that Steve tweed minute ago by George Harrison San. Everybody should play Ukulele. Go check that out on twitter. It's one point. Three Katie WB the Dave, Ryan in the morning show, we had bad rains. Last night was crazy rains last night today. Probably not what? My hydrangea is needed at Dave. Thanks for asking hydrangea neither. Good to know you song, thanks a lot I will. You heard the story behind. This is behind the music so. I dreamt the chorus to the song last week. Maybe heard me talking about it. I woke up in the Molin. I had a song in my head from a Dream Sang into my phone went back to bed played for Steve the next day and Fallon and we've played on the radio. We laughed about it and some people said you should be. That's that's a good song. So I get a hold of local artist Julia Brennan and I said Julia. Can you write the rest of the song? And she did, and here's what she came up with to. The song were the only words that I had were two words. No, this is pure love. This is pure love pure. Pure love so I sang that my phone gave that Julia she wrote this. On Katie Heerden's. Nobody, gets it. Can Count All the Times. They've call this food. To. Save got so much time, ooh! Ryan. Way To talking about. Two Yard Want to. ooh! But this is. A A. And there it is, it's one of one point three Katie Julia Brennan with the full version like the short version. Actually, there's a full long version and she's so nice. She takes a minute ago. She's like. Do you want me to do it again? I can do it again like no. No Yeah you could tell us right in her house. If we could get Jimmy Job Jimmy Jam. Jimmy John Jimmy Jam. Jerry Lewis who used to live here in the twin cities to produce it with like full strings tiffany an orchestra. That'd be really cool. It's probably not going to happen. Though I can hear the violins. Thank you. Sound like check this out. Steve's wife has left him and I'm laughing as I. Say it because. I mean. We saw it coming, but his wife left him in a dream. where, in the. Dream I knew that she had left me and she'd met a new guy, and she looked fire in, and the guy was so good, looking as they walked downstairs, holding each other's hands and just like in your house. I don't know who's house it was. I think it was their new house, which was obviously way better than ours. Why were you there? Then I think pick up the kids and it was like my data. Take him or something. And they went downstairs, and he had his shirt off, and all around and I just remember thinking in the moment. I was like God. I hate to say like he is really good. Looking I mean I can't blame him. So. That in real life I woke up, and I was like upset with her, and I was like oh I reached over to lake to give her a hug and to have her snuggle me. And she said Leona headache. Actually pulled out that old line then I wasn't even trying to like get. Yeah, but yeah, she replied. I have a headache, so I told her the next morning I told her what the guy looked like, and she was all about it. Yeah I mean can you play? What did he looked like? He looked like a mixture of like Aegis Elba and the guy from You're the guy that would do the funny commercials with with the Jim Carey is old spice. Guy Excuse me that guy. But it was like the towel was the white towel like the old spice guy and they walked hand in hand together down the stairs and I was again I was like I can't I can't be mad. I think you're looking at Christie and realizing that she is way out of your league and to start to like. Get to you a little bit. That happens. It's also. Fallon's got. A new baby developed a little babies story. We've I've worked with her on saying like Mama Our dad things like that every day, although mom gutters Goo Goo Gaga today. which is the stair difficult Beta theta. She's getting good at mimicking what we tell her to say. saw. She officially said we're calling. This is her first word. Mama and it's so cute we capture. We got a little tiny clip of it. Mama. BABBLE thing they do. Momma. She says mom. Not so great! It's not gonNA. Be Long till she bus out the full word Mama, yes. Yeah, what age they start like really copying and you got to. Watch it a door. Remember Yeah. I will remember the I. Did this one I? Remember though was about three years old. We were at cheese that used to be over by Carlton No Carlson. Towers I love. Cheese and she's twenty eight now, so it was a long time ago and one of us. My wife or I said the F. Word, and so she repeated it back, and we laughed so hard now. She knew she had a weapon comedy Arsenal yet, so she kept saying the the F. Word over and over and over, and we kept laughing because she kept saying l.. Gosh, you were. Sitting in a cheese with a little baby, saying the F. Word that is just that's the life right there, Brian, no, and that's the most. That's a perfect example. also was gonNA. Mention one the thing here. Hammock and this is something that weather. Any kind told me about. Carson is doing this to Carson Buddies. They get hammocks. Go to a park somewhere. They hang them up. And they lay their in hammocks cozy, and I a Hammock at my house in Colorado and I never bothered to put it up and I'm like I'm going to put it up, so I went out the back yard I. Think on Saturday and I strung between two trees, and it was glorious fallon. Nice. What. I don't trust is the even a sturdiest. Can they hold my weight? Okay, that's just dumb again. If you were very. The records there in California why. Can't travel there. So if you want to invest in a fund, little slight summertime, leisurely relaxation, but I don't know how much I paid for. My I remember how much it paid for maybe twenty thirty bucks. It might have been yeah I. Think so let somebody who listens to the show my to give it to me, yeah! Target, but the thing is if you don't have to trees that are close enough, then you gotta get the other thing. That's what you gotTA. Have Isaac come out and hold up the other end your. Work. Four. To Arthur's chillers, several of things to let you know about guy in Florida was addressed arrested for drinking, natty light and Cap Morgan right out on the street. Pass for his name. Well yeah I got it, but you can't drink it right out of the street. cops his name. He said it was Michael Corleone, which was Al Pacino's character in the Godfather. Another one if you're looking to simplify in moving to a tiny home, the top states for moving into a tiny home are California Florida. Colorado Texas and Oregon. I think it's sounds good in theory, but after a while like. Where can I go I need my alone time? It's been an interesting time in my household. Because Jake is, they're always. And I. Normally don't mind, but some like the other day. Just head on like I just want like one. Set of like. Two hour straight no-one at all is in the house. No one I totally get that I that's one of the reasons I go to. Colorado is because I, want not only to be alone, but know that nobody's also coming home. I got have any like pressure to go. Do Anything so it's kind of a very selfish endeavor when I go to Colorado 'cause I, see chase and I. See my siblings whatever but I also like my alone time to do so. I don't have another place to go to so I just literally. It was like I told them I said. I need I. Don't know how to do this, but I gotta have some alone time and I. Go you get it every day? Because all of isn't here and your home alone, he's more. No, but he said Noah. He's like no I'm not, and he's like it's not. He's when you you were talking about a long time. It's a like relaxing time work. Yeah, he's a I. M constantly working answering calls emails answering your text messages. MESSAGES ABOUT OLIVE Forty five year old guy filed a quarter million dollar lawsuit after he kissed woman, and she gave him a cold sore. Make stuff up. This has got funny. I think a guy in Ireland is facing charges after insulting XS new boyfriend. By using the term Leprechaun over and over, so, how's the Leprechaun? Doing then so you got a boyfriend? WHO's a Leprechaun? Fairly he's a smaller person or he's just getting out of a thing. This is interesting woman who burned two police cars during prion of protests and riots in Philadelphia was caught after the police found the shirt she was wearing on at sea. They notice. She released a review and they used that review to identify her. Wow, that is some great detective work now, mazing. Guy In Florida arrested after he led cops on a high speed chase. He gave the reason as he had a flight to catch. You don't WanNa miss the flight. That's I got excuse. This is probably my favorite one today. A driver and candidate got a ticket after the police caught them. Using a makeshift wooden trailer to toe are hot tub down the street with their Porsche. Makeshift Wooden, they built out of wood and then attached wheels to. Apparently so probably not say what was the first one use thing and they were going really slowly. Porsche, they didn't have a proper towing. Vehicle, the best one I ever remember that didn't Falaise was a woman who had a Kiddie pool blown up on her roof and her kids were. Are you serious. Picture. She was driving super slow like you said Dave, but she had her kids in there. Because of an one arm was holding. You know of the window. Bows. Serious story in town this week. Over the weekend eleven people have been injured and one person died on I wanNA. Say at Hennepin it was an town. Yeah, and they say it's what's normally thought of as a very very safe area of town and I wonder if anybody listening was down there at the time, and what you saw and what you heard. If you want to call me at six, five, one, nine, eight, nine, Katie WB, or know somebody who was involved, or you know God forbid injured, then shoe phone call at six, five, one, nine, eight, nine Katie wbz. Like awful so awful! Yeah, he's can't even imagine okay. We'll cover that also. Fallon is very sad news for you and other hillbillies. Show I have the bad news for hillbillies coming up next on Dave, sturt. This is Warren in river falls, and it's time for Dave stirred on one to one point three K. D. W.. B. Is brought to you by country hearth bread. It is I actually tried the potato bread this. Past Week and tried it I bought. It kept talking about potato bread. Try, it. It is my wife's favorite. It's from village, which is one of the country hearth brands and it's Goto it's. It's great. Hey iphone don't. Do Your. Sandwich thing so that's really cool, too so Hey, we gave away the urban air. Adventure park passes right. We never got the kid on the phone to like like. That's too bad. Okay. A couple of things let you know about first of all Fallon Hillbilly. Bad News, okay? Has Retired from Wyoming after a thirty year career. The city of coon rapids is taking the day off today. Says yes because the undertaker and Fridley is also taking the day off. Because of that, but there WWe flag at half mass raise. For the first time since the coronavirus, pandemic and NASCAR Cup series was set for Sunday postponed. Because of bad weather, so they were going to run it with very limited stands with fans. Let's say the stands hold thirty thousand people, and they were gonNA. Put like five thousand people in the stands. Had to postpone talk about fans, and I'm totally stereotyping here, but you would imagine would refuse to wear a mask. Don't you imagine every NASCAR FAN? You don't tell me what to wear. Do. I agree because I was driving right motorcycle through Colorado and around Golden Colorado. By Red Rocks, big one of those quarter mile race tracks on an oval, so it sits up on a hill, and so it's like a mile long or quarter mile long racetrack where they do drag racing that type of thing and there were all these cars I'm going. WHOA! Something huge is going on all the race track. I drive by the fans. The stands face the freeway so you can see it. They weren't packed, but they were definitely very full. And so I think you're right. DRAG RACING NASCAR. Crew of fans probably does not. They're probably more I. Just you know on where I'm from so if you're a big fan, here, apologize if you're a mask all the time, I just can't imagine my dad and Oh wow I. throw a little whiskey on it. It'll be fine. Are you still going into the NFL in? July whatever yes I am. In less than they happens will say because that's the place you're right. Just like let whatever. Like letting whatever? Your Gramma, they're all hanging around her and that was scaring. That was my that was very early on. That was like. Yeah, because anyway long story, but I am I, have been curious because my family has had not my family alone. I say everyone, everyone them friends with sil. They've had their normal graduation parties and events and things. Still, not like I. Don't know anyone there that has had co fed. Raise the funny. Yeah. They've been doing their pool parties and everything like almost like nothing's going on and I've seen videos on our not supposed to hug, but whatever Haga mccoo God notice of Scary yesterday was father's Day and this is a John Legend father's Day special montage. He did John Legend family of bigger love? Father's Day because we just had a big star party last week. Here is a little clip of John Legend number six. No. We gotTA. It sounds like he's got a full band. There I didn't see the video over this, but I wonder if he's got a full band or whether it's like they're all on zoom or what the deal now. This is D. L. Hughley comedian passed out on stage, and they thought it was just exhausted or whatever they tested him for Cova. He's doing a show in Nashville, apparently for limited seating whatever, but this is D. L. Hughley passing out on stage. We were immigrants. Past. Thank you everybody for your prayers where wishes came, I was being treated for extreme exhaustion and. Dehydration but it turns out. They ran a battery of tests and also tested positive for Kobe nineteen, which blew me away I. was what they call as symptomatic apparently I just lost consciousness so in addition to all the other stuff you have to look out for. If you pass out in the middle of a show on stage, you probably need protest. No I think he's kind of kidding. How do you not know when you have someone like Sydney? Who's just are who works in promotion to WHO has it now? She feels awful. She's talking about she can't get out. Get out of bed. So. How do you know what I'm saying for? Everybody I know it's different for everyone, but if he doesn't have symptoms that I'm surprised, that would be in relation to him. Just passing out on stage might not be no have. I don't know I know that When you get the flu, your doctor, she'll tell you like hydrate. Hydrate hydrate, read online hydrate, and that's one of the things, so I think a lot of people when they get covert. They need hydrate and they don't. So then they get exhausted in the nation, so drink your water. Spain is lifted state of emergency after three months of lockdown three miles. They've lifted their state of emergency. Disney is outlined details on its plan to reopen its Florida theme parks next month, so they're planning on reopening. Somebody's went to universal, and they said that it was great. Okay, so and I traveled to Colorado this weekend. And I felt eighty percent or more safe. The entire time I'm curious like going to someone who's gone to Disney. Ignore couple of years ago and I love Disney so much and we kind of the joke that they don't have. It seems like they do have limits at all. That was let anyone in. That buys a ticket, so it's so over-packed and if they're limiting it, you would think it'd be an overall better experience in general. That's the though, don't you think yeah, so? They could probably charge a little bit more because you don't have to wait ninety eight minutes to go on Space Mountain. I'll be curious like the next time we go. Like will be like this will. Be As long waits. Will they be limiting the number of people in the park? Actually I was in downtown as Park Colorado over the weekend, and it's a tourist town just like still water, but times ten okay and. You're outside and you're walking along the sidewalk. Guess where everybody congregates at a traffic light when you need to do the Cross street. Your shoulder to shoulder with other people and I'm standing there going I. Don't like this I'm standing. Yeah, we're outside and most people were wearing masks, but your shoulder to shoulder. Just like you would be a Disney world, so I don't know. Like. You're not breathing really on each other. There's a better chance of airflow, so I'm like I'm Kinda like it. Is I get safer? I think we're all, but you see people like your wife are much more careful, your much more lax, and I think there's all there's it runs. The gamut of people who are very careful and people who are just not at all finally, the AMC theater chain is reversed course and will require guests and staff to wear masks inside. It's theaters. I don't know when they're. They're going to reopen, but there's a lot of movies that I would love to go see that are going to be out on the normally come to the theater that are now not or use at home so all right? That's the dirt. Any final words fell in Bonn set. Thank you for asking. Really Hope you have a wonderful evening. If you're thinking about letting off fireworks tonight starting at nine pm through question mark, maybe thank you know what let's give Monday arrest. Let's give it a rest. Yeah, no! A? No meet Monday? It's me instead of meatless Monday. It's Iowa, Celeste, Monday, or workless Monday I have not heard a word from weather girl Jenny during the entire show today I do WanNa. Talk to Jenny what the actual f! Take it from here whether girl Jenny. What do you got I? There's always a moment where I'm putting my headphones on, and I have to switch over so I didn't hear what the question was leading up to this but holidays. What? Did you Dave? You've been gone for a few days. Miss you. You Know Jenny I worry that Ginny gets burnt out sometimes I worry about Jenny because she worked so hard on where you get burnt out, but apparently you. Made somebody broke up with her boyfriend paneling road trip, but you also ruin somebody's life on Lake Minnetonka on Saturday what you do ordered an Uber and what you ruin somebody's life on Lake Minnetonka whenever? I was on the lake, and I had been on there for nine hours drinking, and so when I got off, I was starving, so my boyfriend picked me up as the kind boyfriend that he is and I forced him to take me through the Taco Bell drive-thru. We got a party pack. Anna, contract supreme not just the party back also a contrast cream, and we went home and proceeded to eat out in bed and then out. That, that's the life that she ruined. Because when you eat a crunch rap, you're GONNA get crumbles in the bedsheets bedsheets. You finish every single thing in the party pack, not that evening but I finish it yesterday. Yes, I finish amateur move and it was actually just on the floor. She picked Alex Good. That'll do. I've done that many times a of. Thank you Jenny? Ledge okay. Thanks for checking in all right We'll see tomorrow. The Dave Ryan in the morning show from we do the best up from five thirty until seven were on live until eleven o'clock now and I appreciate your listening. 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Evening Skews - Week of August 25, 2020

"Having all. Today's Tuesday August twenty fifth. I'm tried crowder in this market. Is You what's up Mark Halio? Drake. Welcome back to evening skews tonight, the bridled lunacy of the first evening of the Republican National Convention the Infinitely more tragic but equally maniacal continued conduct of American law enforcement and a lot more. But fires as always skews we began with report on American. Dumb. assery. A, Lynchburg Virginia Man. Has quit the same job like four God damn times in the past two days. Talking, of course about noted, evangelical and former we think President of Liberty University Jerry Falwell junior who's been embroiled in controversy since it was revealed that the good reverend is a freaking the sheets. Now we're here at skews we don't. We don't shame as a rule. But when you professionally traffic immorality, you really ought to watch the Dick and but stuff mark tell us what happened. Yeah mean the problem wasn't what he's doing. Really it's that if a professor at is schooler student God forbid of and caught doing, this would have been kicked out a long time ago. So. Just people? No. I'm not an impartial observer here I'm from Central Virginia. Families from Buckingham County and Mexican school. The closest city is Lynchburg and my family has a very one-sided robbery hate in the Falwell's going back for several generations. Because the list, the closest city would go to see a movie. which is the best way to put it because like we couldn't even get decent movie lately. Okay. So showgirls didn't come to Lynchburg that's still mad about it when I was sixteen. Big Fan of the Bell Jesse was going to get it making this movie called showgirls and Falwell just said, no more Majori dip shits stuff kept showed that Lynchburg anyway. Sums up how they rule the region, right? Right. Exactly. The Falwell's kind of rain over that part of Virginia with their Christian morality that's a whole thing with them and it has been for a long time. Liberty University which I preside over has very, very strict code of conduct and among other things that very clearly defined sexual conduct as only being appropriate between them. One married man and one married woman shit like that. They're really hardcore. So that's the context and then the son of the Patriarch Jerry Falwell Jr has been charged for awhile now. What has happened with him? Yes. So He's out of his job because he had a couple of things happened the past few weeks one instagram himself a quite clearly drunk holding a drink with his pants unbuttoned his arm around. A woman not his wife the pictures fixture was pre pre-trains Gramley. A joke he was he was teasing his wife Assistant. She couldn't button her pants anymore 'cause she's pregnant but again, he's holding the drink students were allowed to drink if you've pretty clearly drinking problem by the way. In so that the students. Fast Forward But for about a year and a half hasn't been as weird stuff his wife, a guy who's Houston called a pool boy or Putin that in Miami who they say they met them vacation and then just started hanging out twenty old boy a lot including giving him a few million dollars to open a nightclub. So. Merimee fucking. Yellow Buoy. Side pay situation they're giving him. Yeah. But not critic clearly what? Hanging out with with basically teenage pool with a given a bunch of money. It doesn't take a sex detective to figure out some weird stuff's going right. So. How but he did not afraid you re years anyway. So the Guy Apparently does record and Jerry knew that story was in the work he gave a preemptive interview to the friendly outlet saying try to do the you know we had trump marriage we're trying to make it work the the reform center talk they usually works for guys in his situation trying to blame him his wife saying his wife cheated, but he loved her and they were GonNa make it work right? anyways says, no actually the article comes out and has no. There were three of us, wrong in the room together Jerry like watch and. Whatever makes you ever make sure best place if your marriage go for it, I guess but Again the good people at Liberty. University would let him steal the money you wanted to steal, but this was too. Far So. He's out of a job although he resigned then tried to take it back and then resigned again today he resigned yesterday early in the day and then after whiskey o'clock, he retracted his resignation. Sobered up and residing in this morning so. What do you think that was just as simple as him just being like. Ain't nobody gonNA tell major xanadu wherever the fuck I want like going with the flow earlier in the day. But then like you said and a couple of whiskies and band like I'm I run this shit I'm king calm around here. I'm fucking going nowhere and then you know in the called sober out of the morning realizing that probably going to work or or. I mean, maybe there was A. Shooting the details of his maybe he wanted like a bigger. Golden Parachute or I don't know. About I don't know what you have because it is it is as has a board, his family ferreted, but it's a nonprofit so it doesn't like. It It's a nonprofit. It has a tax structure that doesn't leave him. All powerful. So His Power was due to his. Political clout and leadership and reputation in those things took a hit last days. But the like what he's done with liberty are A. Lot of big schools do this now basically turn liberty in to like a real estate like. Fun. So the. Liberty has like teen thousand on campus students and ninety five, thousand online students. It turned into like a degree because selling degree factory taking that money and bought a bunch of land with. Jerry's done with it. Is. Basically establish a kickback scheme where he buys you'll like have land paid have land developed. You'll pay sweetheart deals to buddies and real estate developer land, and then he'll ran it to different two different set of buddies for on the cheap than the market value after liberties pay to develop it, and then I'm assuming these getting some sort of trade-off. One of one of the people he gave a sweetheart deal to with a giant fitness studio or tennis courts for his wife's personal trainer who he said he met text, he was showing boudoir photos to employees. He texted the excellent texted some to somebody who's cover story with an intended to send it to a personal trainer. That's we said at the time because he wanted to thank him for all the good work he'd done getting advice body type. That's that that's what he told the newspaper. All right. He's been absolute embarrassment his whole. Goddamn. Life right and. He wasn't smart Paducah. It together like a lot of second generation. Kingpins are. Also, manned the pool boys I just also on the nose twenty year old mime poboy like it's literally the plot of a porno movie. that. That's like part of part of the whole thing for these people like I said, when you traffic and morality, you really got to watch this shit because that's the thing that Jerry Falwell Junior. Was a rapper you know or a rock star or whatever no-one would give a fuck about any of this except for maybe the misuse of. Official funds but no, one would care that he's a cook but like. That's that's the other thing too like they're the one they being he's a huge Puerto, president trump, very hardcore rightwing Christian conservatives. They make a huge deal about cooks about being a cook. Liberals are all cooks. A huge deal about the people's morality, the proper way to live your life and like. When you do shit like that. You know you can't. Get Away with just. Whatever melts your butter like they fucking make their own bed nap to lay in it. Now, obviously, a lot of times they don't have to lay and it just get still whatever the fuck they want. To like. It makes it bad that yeah and watch someone else lie in it but A. Like I feel like this is another side effect of like the. Current. With technology and social media and all that. You know what? I mean like I think these guys like this or still adjusting to the fact that like. There ain't as me secrets anymore by people are going to find out about these guys have always operated this way. which is to say extremely hypocritically but. Used to they didn't have to worry about that ever being a problem, but now it can be a fucking problem. And offer. All four that. Yeah I mean it's always been. that. What his? Well. I would hesitate too much a policy right up and Jerry junior because he did run a Christian college that was like branding expanding like if you want to turn your school until profit online thing. Various all around the world recruiting people. COMMU is helpful but Jerry junior minister brother like when after his dad died ended up. The. The empire, his brother Got Thomas Road Baptist Church Fathers Minister in Jerry took the business empire. He outmaneuvered his brother to be college 'cause for the money was right so. I Okay But. You. You said, you don't think there's that much hypocrisy going on here with Jerry. No, we'll. Just. I'm saying I wouldn't I'M NOT GONNA sit here pretending jerry juniors necessarily a huge believer in the good book. Yeah rat, of course not but. He does though I mean. If just by being the president. Of a college like Liberty University, which is notorious for that hardcore bobble thump morality police bullshit just by being the president of that. He is presenting himself as you know, a follower of the good Lord and the Good Book and sure why you ought to live. Sure. Just like like like if I play for the cowboys. Cowboys, you know it's a good paycheck. Yeah but. I feel like you feel like you're almost kind of letting him off the hook with you're right about yeah. The cowboy analogy I get that they're not. They're not fans of the team it. It's just a paycheck, but it just same with with something like this. They make then make their entire existence off of telling people how to live and the way they tell people how to live doesn't encompass. Watching. A twenty year old poboy fuck your wife in. MIAMI. Not Club or what I know. I'm not I'm not saying there's no I'm saying like he's not minister like Jerry senior had been caught like this. It would have been like pure hypocrisy I'm saying Jerry Junior just in this for the money I mean Jerry senior was too. That's an older. But my point is that like he's mainly a businessman and what he was selling just happened to be. Salvation as opposed to in degrees as all. Right. He could have been could have been the board of any other any other connors type company. He was doing Christian. He was an amway just happened to be bibles instead of whatever else family. So. I, hear you on that. I totally hear you on that. But what I'm saying you said he could have he could have been on the board of any corporate you name it it could have been you know fucking whatever. Post. It notes or cars or tires or whatever any multinational corporation, but I'm saying. If he was not this. No. One would give shit about any of this. You know what I mean. Like. That's the whole point. If he was just that kind of businessman, it would be fine to watch a twenty year old poboy boy fuck your wife in hotel rooms and brought him nightclubs and shit like. Where's the. Problem. My point is that like the wing, the wing of the Republican Party ended up in was actually a more natural fit for him. Right? Like the the the Donald we'll come back to Michael Cohen and the pictures and stuff in a second. But because that's where the real political scandal here is but the. With you froze for second with another enough way down. The. So like hey. Guys like the the the guys that are in I. Don't know while these guys like watching their wife get railed. It's very weird subculture there in the Lake Lake Roger Stone is into that I came out publicly longtime ago he starts posting ads in. Local, news classified ads like asking for dudes come have sex wife it came out that Paul Manafort. Same thing. That's what got him in trouble with his. Daughters text message got hacked. That's reasons. Daughters were talking about them at all and then when it. A murderer. So. Very subculture of sex perverts in this wing of the Republican Party and the fact that woman works in Christian College in a perfect but anyway so. Think about blackmail the people don't think about is like a lot if you do blackmail right the victim thanks you for it. Because what you've done is you've helped them keep their secret right that appears to be with Michael Cohen. Scientology works live in La. So ploto get saying that. But like. So mukullah apparently helped. Jerry Junior, get back photos of his wife with the pool boy and then conveniently endorsed trump at trump comes to get liberty and a bunch of student protests and didn't show up. So I'm. Right was you're talking about being a hake? Prevalent in a certain wing of the Republican. Party is that whole like you know doth protest too much situation with. Again like they're the ones who made cook as a word and as an insult into a thing and the popular lexicon in America recently like they did that. And then like you said, it comes out that so many of the prominent members fat part of the Republican Party. The bill in a literal fashion, but it's just like going back years with the most the most homophobic. A Members of Congress and high level. Republicans. The ones who were the most hard core about the scourge of homosexuality and that type of thing all ended up getting caught suck. Some dude off in an airport bathroom or whatever like it just it always goes down that way you know. But I mean I don't know so are. Moving on in. Again, much more tragic news. The police are still up to their old tricks Kenosha Wisconsin Police Department is continued the ever everlasting tradition of making a mockery of the supposed slogan of American law enforcement to protect and serve win over the weekend they shot a twenty nine year old black man named Jacob Blake seven times. In, the back. Mr Blake. So far thankfully is alive he has survived, but at the very least it looks like he's going to be paralyzed from the waist down at turns out the Kenosha police. Department three years ago. Had agreed to. Purchase and institute policy for Body Cams They wore body cams all the time, but then just never did that. So none of them had body cams on or anything like that. As always happens with these cases the only reason you buy even knows about is because a bystander a neighbor in this case happened to catch it on video and that's part of the like. I've talked about this before it. It blows my fucking mind the white like all these all these cops and all these cities. They know they all know their intensely aware that every cell phone camera and every twitter fade in this country is trained on them right now and rather than like taking a page out of chapter, one of the villains handbook and you know laying low for a while or play Cole until it dies down or whatnot that just fucking just keep on about their business if not ramping it up like it's crazy to. I know it's like it happens. So often it can't be surprising anymore but Robert. Step back and look at it. It's fucking insane that something like this. It's crazy that ever happens like it's always inexcusable and it should never happen but it is doubly crazy that something like this happens. In the context of an environment that we are all living in right now you know it just seems to me like it just shows that they still they still don't give a fuck man at all like if they did. I. Don't think you'd see stories like this at least in this moment. Videos hard to watch for lots of reasons. But the you can count like forty points in that fifteen seconds for the officer could have made it a bunch of different choices. I still haven't seen a good explanation of Lake what they suspected him of the had their gun drawn in the first place guy with the give me the guys wearing. A wife, beater sweatpants creek. Clearly, he doesn't have any weapon every gun point at him they showed up to a domestic violence call the did not involve him was two women arguing he was a verbal confrontation keep that a jacobs trying to stop currently in the other gun pointing to him he goes to get in his car because you're in a free society. If police don't have a reason to detain you, you can leave you can leave ride you can leave. There's the police in the wrong. So many so many points here. I don't understand why with. Gun drawn and people are screaming at you. You know man dibiase. If I'M GONNA get rough. Gun Away and go with a Taser Thanh, my hands using my words like an adult. And it just like sued. Defenders of the police like well, what he was going to the car to get a gun why would he be going to get a gun? He has no reason to shoot officer because they have no cause to arrest him. The to. The whole thing makes no sense and I don't even know what to say about anymore they're out of riot. Yeah. That's kind of where I'm at with the too. It's like I just I don't know what else they even say about it because it's the same shit every time like there's always always justification comes out line they start digging up like what is criminal record? Was and and that type of thing, and it's like. Basically, that all all for yes. They didn't know that. But even if they did, it's like you're telling me that that justifies a literal death sentence you know and I just don't. Now that and it I don't care if he was a drug addict or had a criminal record or whatever you know that Shit. He shouldn't have been any. He wasn't again the guy survived, but he shouldn't have been shot several times in the back in the street. It doesn't warrant that kind of response and I just don't understand what what people don't understand about that but it's Obvious hot. It's an understatement to site. It's widespread issue in America right now and. It's it's still an ongoing thing the. Protest I think are. Definitely, for sure making an impact, but the opposition still out in force to my home state. Our state legislature in the state of Tennessee he continues to embarrass the shit out of me. As it relates to this subject in particular, the Tennessee state legislature has just passed a new law that. Is Aimed at protesters. It's now felony in the state of Tennessee, because the law was signed, it was signed into law by the governor billy who's a piece of shit this week. and. The law makes it a felony for protesters to camp out overnight on state property, and this comes after a couple of weeks the protesters camping out in front of the State Capitol building so. Make It A. Felony to camp out overnight on state property, and if you're convicted, you can lose your voting rights and you can face up to six years in prison and it's such a clearly targeted. Piece of legislation you know this just pointed at just protesters and get not fucking rioters an anarchist. Protesters and. I. Don't know again I don't know what else to say about it. Other than Shit like this makes me sick and I just hate to see it coming out of my home state. Yeah. It's so transparent is if you protest in the way, we don't like we're GonNa take away your right to the. Right and he just just just for Shits and giggles Rita the text of the First Amendment to your Second Congress, shall make no law up prohibiting the right of the people to Peaceably Assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances. So I don't really you're gathering public property which your tax dollars pay for to petition deficient government grievances. It's plain letter law I don't see how this survives any sort of court challenge but yeah. Right and on a just in terms of. Practicality of it other opponents of the legislation like they sell you pointed out that. This kind of just encourages like homeless people to go sleep on somebody's yard or something like private property like if you're going to get a felony six years in prison for sleeping on a bench in front of the fucking State House or whatever. Then now you'll just go. Sleep on somebody's front porch or whatever, and I'm like that's not. I'm not worried about where the homeless are sleeping at personally I'm just saying it's another like you break it down at every level and none of it makes sense as my point. Was a person is definitely gonNA, end up living on the street eventually I'm a little worried about it. I. I Yeah. I don't I mean. He's a good idea strictly speaking were good. And I don't know what I mean. I know what they're up to. They don't think ahead for half a second. and. It's not just Tennessee obviously obviously, it's all over the country but one of the more grievous examples also in your home state mark in Portsmouth Virginia, which I don't know what part of the state that's in is that also your neck of the woods, there's that nets. As down to the ocean, like a near Virginia Beach. Portsmouth Virginia cops or they're wiling. They have arrested a whole slew of public officials who all happen to be black. And a sensibly, they've arrested them for felonies related to the destruction of a confederate monument which I guess did happen but the point is still not justified and all it's like these are state senator multiple. Officials. From the end of the Lacey, pay the Oakland ACP chapter, the school board member upstanding members of the community pillars of the community not that it would matter if they were just regular people either but I'm saying. Pillars of the community tap people in Portsmouth. Virginia all black have been rounded up and charged with crimes by. The Portsmouth Police Department over this type of Shit recently so i. Could be. People out of control. It's a felony charge of injury to a monument accessible thousand dollars they got. Yeah. They, arrested three public defenders to I'm sure that's a coincidence. Then then after people raise a stink about that the Some guy got up on a facebook group confound a some obscure thing in a city code whereas citizen go to a magistrate and get an arrest warrant. For, public official who engages in like an interference with the appointment of a city official because the vice mayor who happens to be his daughter of the state senator got arrested the vice mayor. And City councilman called for the police chief to be fired. and. So he construed that as interference deployment public officials. So he went to magistrate and got a warrant which the police department shares far all too happy to to enforce and serve so. Like the city level city version of a military coup is they're not even being settled about. It. Is Crazy. Now again, the Shit is insane I just don't like I. Don't understand it. There's no one at the higher levels in organizations like that saying hey. Maybe not right now, we be doing this type of ship, but again, they just like. They don't see it that way like they're they're the heroes we're the villains and they don't. They're going to keep doing what they're doing because they're in the right as far as they're concerned but onto. I want to call it a more fun subject although it also terrifying like everything in America right now but it is easier to laugh at the first. Neither Republican convention was up then Else Ryan. After after Donald Trump junior's speech, the word cocaine was trending on twitter global aid because of. Cocaine is Vita. Loch ness monster dot ness. Monster. All treat should trending because of conventional. Yeah. Where do you even start with all the shit that went on last night donald trump junior coming out there looking and acting all coke called Joe Biden. The loch ness monster of the swamp, and then tried to tried to make that analogy work. Safety, pops up every now and then to run for president as Loch ness monster famously known to do and then. Disappears for years at a time after that. His eyes were all red and like moist may moist is going on and just not a great look and then his girlfriend Kimberly Guilfoil who's the ex ex girlfriend ex wife of Gavin newsom ex wife. Governor during our poignant trae, why are our governor in California? Gavin newsom Kimberly Guilfoil had to go up there and upstate Jim by screaming like a lunatic about all kinds of shit and that was sort of fame. The night was fear mongering high-volume fearmongering, which is funny because that was their. Some of their biggest criticisms of what the Democrats did at the DNC was how? Negative we were. Yeah. Imagine that. In the year like twenty twenty but they criticized the Democrats for being overly negative in the DNC last week and then come out and they're literally out here screaming about Democrats. Killing the. Next Generation of conservatives out there abortions or whatever. inviting Mexican gangs to live next door he forcibly removing your guns disbanding the police. All is wild shit actuated something about this earlier. It's like what's funny about that to me is they also act like. One of the major problems with Democrats. The Democrats are you know for lack of a better word Democrats are huge pussies. They're cowards rat that are weak willed and lack the resolve to actually enact any change there too overly sensitive. They're overly sensitive snowflakes that can't get anything done. They say, and then they come out here and are like they're going to command the gangs and murder the lowered. Its like which one is it man? Yeah. Easy. Joe. Biden is going to kill. God. I'm not sure the mechanism it's like a knife fight or leg like wrestling immature. Sure. How to do it. Yeah but Yeah you had Herschel Walker given giving us. That's another thing time. I hypocrisy they another big criticism was having evil Longoria give the. Like sort of kind of MC, the DNC early last week, and then they opened up with Jon. voight. Like. I don't know. Are obsessed the show business to a degree I work in show business and I think about it less than they do. It I've been thinking about why and my only theory is the only thing. They don't control with pop culture because that's dominated by young people who tend to be more libertine and socially accepting until they get older. And so they. Cosmopolitan I guess I would say. So. It's like. This is so jealous that lake the dams get all the good celebs or whatever, and it's you control the presidency the the judiciary half, a congress, thirty, some statehouses, mostly governorships, wall, street, every corporate board. And? Social media basically and you're also a Chance, the rapper might do a Hillary Clinton benefit or whatever it's. Extremely. Yes. Yes it is. A man. So Kimberly Guilfoil. Right. And this has been pointed out multiple times today but she's screaming like a lunatic. And actually didn't realize last night until I read it today. But like that wasn't live that was pre taped. Her doing that a lot of these speeches, repre- typed, and also there's no one. There's no one there who can tell her maybe to you know not. Do this and I'm going to try to pull this up quick mark. Can't hear again you. I cannot. Yeah. Well, sorry about that. Anyway. y'All get to y'all get the drift. You know what she was. Hang on a second hang on. Sorry new software. I'm trying to figure it out let. Generation says they told you and brainwash hugh and Fed. You lies that you weren't good enough. I think you brought up you know what she said and how she said. Though yeah. Screaming about killing future generations because of our lives in this. League. Remember that quoting that liberals want to control what you see in here's the control how you live and four more years. It's only gone I get right. And she's. She does weird. Aggressive. Granted an empty young eighty rooms always awkward. That's that's nothing I don't. That guests she holds her hands to the heavens and screams. The best is yet to come and I don't like. This is the thing we talked about before like I genuinely I can't make my brain. Understand the brain of someone who watches that who isn't like a billionaire billionaires or whatever aside other than them. I don't understand the branch somebody who? In this country in this point in time. Watching someone screamed, Hey, you ain't seen nothing yet and not being fucking terrified by that. You know what I mean like I don't know how anyone with any kind of sanity. Could, act like things are going great right now you know like I it blows my fucking mind whatever you think the reasons for our problems are a few somehow blame the Democrats for the problems we have or whatever. Okay. Fine I mean I don't get that either but like. You at least got to admit that shit is bad right now I would think but apparently, not now the. Right, and the best is yet to come. I. Guess you can see this as growing pains until we achieve pushing back to a semi apartheid state. I guess the promise I don't I don't really know. I can't put myself in their mind they look. I don't think every trump voter is dumb. I. Think People vote for a lot of different reasons but I do think these people in charge of this are dumb and nobody wants to be going problem with trump from the beginning you have a good campaign. Because no one. Character, intelligence want to be associated with it. Same thing when he got in the White House nobody you only got the dregs. Wanted to be associated with them and same thing with like look at conventions figures like forty percent of like the last name trump because nobody wants to speak at. The drafted Tim Scott and doing it, and he's basically only sitting senator who would wh. WHO's willing to because he doesn't an election soon. They needed they needed a black. Republican. To go up there and say officer. Awesome. Yeah in the. Tonight, this. Now actually sorry guess this got cancelled. Anyway, tonight was shaping up to be memoirs probably will end up being even worse but I'm. Just talking about the lineup they had. Marrying him in Dosa was scheduled to speak tonight and again apparently this just changed very late in the game she kicked off A. Tweet Matt Antisemitic Conspiracy theories connected the Cunanan. Dug Up an old tweet that trump did trump people couldn't known about she tweeted it like an hour ago. Right? Right. Right before she's on the Republican National. Convention this this woman and Merriam she an age. She's an angel mom her gift guy it was her kid was killed by drunk driver who was an illegal immigrant and you know. I'm a dad I feel sorry for him by this loss child obviously but like. Politicized making that you know. TURNING THAT INTO Sort of racist dog whistling about about immigration and whatnot is obviously complete bullshit. But that was the the box she was set check tonight and mere hours before she was going to go on and. Check that box she was on twitter. Urging followers to. Watch this. To emf to investigate this thread about a Cunanan plot about acute non threat about a Jewish plot to enslave the world yeah. So that's what we're dealing with. Honestly I'm surprised she got I'm surprised. She Got Nixed I'm not gonNA live like that. I'm surprised that they actually said now you ain't GonNa go on her do they fill that slot with just fucking politely Greenwood for. On. For like for fifteen minutes or however long she had. Like who did they have in the warnings as an alternate, your kid rock, the stretch cy. Young. Do an extra five. mean. It's it. I'm resident pushed through because one thing trump is figured out and he's smart and a lot of people when it comes to this stuff is like people have people have limits to their outrage and people also have pretty normal expectation for how things work so. She just let talk it would have been like a two hour news cycle. And people don't really grasp what it is or what's wrong with it. Not like. Maybe, twelve million people watching the don't. She's not going to say anything Q. NOT ON TV probably. They probably dump button if she does, but I would have been it would have been some obscure story. We're talking earlier with the weird sex stuff like if you have A. If. You have a normal sex game of the media a report on it like you caught having an affair. It's like you were having sex with an intern or under aid the ODI No. Lie Boyer Dead Girl Thing about ruins careers. But. If you're doing some weird. Sex stuff that mainstream media finds a little Hanky and gross. They. Don't they absolutely have no idea to cover it. So. So that's why like if that fool boy hadn't come forward, follow gotten off because no one. It's like, what do you? What do you say about? You know cookery but pub how DC media has not figured out a report on on a way that doesn't amplify it. You know. So. Yes. Well. Speaking of Cunanan it's really gaining stain mark they're picking up. Picking up some other conspiracy theory communities who are jumping on board. Out Most, notably rat now bigfoot the bigfoot people I don't want to speak for the entire bigfoot community are ad I'm sure there's some I'm sure there's some bigfoot Americans right now who are not. Not Behind this but. Prominent members of the big community have come out of fish fishery endorsing. The Cunanan theory and thus supporting Donald Trump and you know. That is a pretty big blow to receive the video because. Yes if you give me a minute. Yeah. But you talk about it for a while, pull it up. So before it's trade, one thing that's happening and what makes. Q. Community. So dangerous. Besides effective facebook is working its damnedest to make it a thing. Like? facebook pages have grown six-fold overt since cope. It started because people at home and board, and they're sad and paranoid lonely. And so a lot of different conspiracy communities are. Merging to unified theory and like so like new MOMS, joint wellness groups to like maybe try to sell essential oils and get drawing the ANTIBAC- stuff, and then slide into Q., and that's the kind of thing is happening a lot right so you basically can't be on facebook now and not be urged join a community that's going to turn into a cute fan page. said the bigfoot did this? This is a game changer here I'm thinking about joining now. I'll you referred to as a unified theory is there to look that's also that's also. Working towards a unified to explain the physical world, but you know fuck what they're doing. As they're maybe like. What's happened is you got like anti like so Marin County? ANTIBAC- sly moms are now in the same cinematic universe conspiracy theories. Three percenters like militia types, Blue Boys. Q. People, and they're all sharing theories and their they got their core fords and doom we could do with a crazy workforce is you're drawing connections. If if you're against, you think big. Pharma is maybe a little loose with the vaccine they give out to babies. here comes to my Sam actually another bill CH- that the Kobe Copa just a cover up and get us the Bill Gates microchips, and this is like coping conspiracy theory. They're just trying to take trump down take trump down using cova. Because he's done verge of uncovering all the pedophile 's who. Terrified children before they kill them and eat them. The fear generates a chemical called I can't pronounce Andrew. Get so it's a fairly. It's a Rube Goldberg machine of a bunch of stupid things but you grind on there's no reason can't believe the next right, right? Yeah. Yeah. People go and like, yeah you know what? Else man? And hit him with this. Week no one could stomach all of this but here's some of what some what you're talking about John. News. What they referred to themselves as. On otherwise known as a big force people have sasquatch bigfoot. So anyway if you read the In my second book that. Love running two bucks. You will. See that trump is said a few different times. That they are assisting the white hats. Now on. If you're wondering what the heck. Does that mean assisting? The whitecaps. Well. Let's find out. Shall we Okay. Now let's let's find cosby. He. Shows a cute the non. Conspiracy Now. fucking. Sense. But but it opens with him. Yeah. He's saying he's the official ambassador for the new. DEJA. Vu. Anyway he's giving more people. Yeah. Same scratches. Is like a native American tribal name. And apparently they're chief has joined forces with. Up and trump is apparently announced several times straight as he put in his second book. That's a that's a big. That's a big endorsement and the cheese you. People get you. Yes. Get chief forelock or whatever's nine for breaking. The Ski Right. Yeah Foot has come out in support of Donald Trump. It's funny thing about we were texted about this last night is funny. Think about bigfoot being like a bigot? Light turns out big foot's just a horrible racist. That's why he stayed in the woods is how? Big Foot's like, yeah. You ever seen a Jew in the words. Exactly. He's He's in the woods because. The Democrats Fair Housing Policies made the suburbs. It's Astra's unsuitable. That's why I keep to themselves is I just. CAN'T STOMACH MEXICANS AND HOMOSEXUALS and whatever it took all the jobs. It's also fucking crazy man but that's all like, okay. A quick emergence because I was thinking about this, we were talking about Mendes earlier she signed. Sheet wrap before she's was was supposed to go on and speak at the RNC she's given this. Cheese encouraging followers to look into this on theory about. The Global Jewish conspiracy Jews around the world and everything and part of that was talking about the this. well-established. Hoax. Among anti-semites about the Elders of Zion or whatever that was part of it, and she's like the elders on our real. You know you need to look into what they're going after and what I'm getting at is like. I don't. There's so many things that understand about this but I like how does that square with? Republicans, and conservatives like General Support of Israel the state do you know what I mean like? That's always been wild to me that like being hardcore supportive of Israel is a conservative ideology in America right. But yet they also are the ones I was screaming about Jews in the world and all this type of shit like. How is that even supposed to work or they'd it's not they don't support Israel Jewish people they support Israel. Going to bring about the end of the world and Jesus is GONNA come back. So. So. But the thing is like how complicit Israel's been in that and that's because they like Netanyahu. Understands this in his in favor of it and like he's like he's biggest allies. was I just trump or like victim Oregon because it big a right wing like a dictator in eastern Europe, who's like a big anti Zionist conspiracy theorist but he also the but he hates Muslim immigrants, right so basically. Every movie state of Israel and American Evangelical 's have both agreed. that. Hatred for Muslims outranks. Everything including their whether people hate them or not if you're citizen of. Israel. So. It's all pretty audit, but like it's weird, there's A bunch of. Black, swan events happening everything's so much worse. The same time the FBI twitter account tweeted out a link to their file elder elder design on the other day. And if you saw that In a anti Semite conspiracy theorist went crazy but it's just automated FBI bought that. In response to a freedom of information. Act Request people ask for at the I files the FBI once they clear it in a d classified information with deleted and of course, they did it research into this document that was a very popular among violent separatists so It's like people took that as like support dislike trump when trump said people love me last week at a press conference. The Q. People took that as we're right. We've been on something the whole time. Time. Well, he said it might be two different press conferences who can even keep up but the one I saw, they asked him about Cunanan they said, what do you think about Cunanan conspiracy theory that your administration is helping to save the world from a global cabal of pedophilia cannibals or whatever, and trump was just like. Is that supposed to be bad like we are saving the world and just left it that. So say world is a good thing trae he's got. So. Let's let's go comments variously what we got. Steve Marsh says Breaking News Milanya caught on tape badmouthing the dawn and his kids. That's the. Her former friend assistant put out right Yes or is about to put out but that's like. Who can even keep up with all the different? Caught on Tape Shit Talkin about Donald Trump because I know just a couple of days before that there is sign thing but with his niece. Taping his sister is older sisters a judge and his sister was talking shit about trump awfully isn't she can't stay in them, and now you've got Malania doing the same thing and it's like literally ever been anybody. That isn't currently. Under his thumb like isn't currently benefiting from his reign. Who has ever said anything good about him. You know what? Like every single time anything comes out from someone who like has been associated with trump in the past It's universally negative. Even the people cost to them his own family none of this stuff hurts because the. People like him one of the things they like about him is that he's fucking sucks like they can find like like they think it's good that he's meaning dumb because it's like I. Don't know why but they enjoy it. They enjoyed how much it frustrates people like you and me or like fucking idiot and get mad about it because you know he's going to. Cost US a year our lives hiding in her houses because of the coronavirus and. Economic Opportunities and you know, what are the all the things that go along with it? But like triggered the lids. Here's my mug liberal lately. Love that show. It's great. But like right like he knows he sucks too by the way like this isn't like like. A pair of his biographers we're listening to a podcast years ago we're talking about. The try to get him to be introspective. Just. Asked him. Question prompts like the illiterate asked him if you had a friend. And he goes he thought about and goes like what do you mean like someone I would go out to dinner with and talk to. What you say friends. And collaborators. Goes well, then no. Like, he just doesn't. But there are people like that. Some people just like did they don't they don't care about he's working relationship. They have some really high functioning like. Kobe Bryant family famously with proud that didn't have any friends busy a plan. But the. Another one, this is funny one, but they asked him. Who is ideal companion was? Thought about it for minute and he said Hot Broad, but the huge rack. Thought about it for a minute to come up with that. You've been. Sending who's your biggest hero? Who would you? Your life again like. I mean just. For Minute imagining him reading a poem in thinking about it this thing. Yeah. A Jamie Horowitz said, we're laughing about all this now, but it's actually terrifying. Most of trump's base actually believes this shit and you're right but you're one hundred percent right but it's one of those things where like. You got to laugh at it. You know otherwise you fucking go and sign. I actually think ridicules probably the way like the way the way that the Mainstream. centrist reporters talk about the stuff of this sort of blake distinct bemusement whether or not really familiar with. It's kind of cute adorable fringe conspiracy theory of it doesn't really matter I think that is not helpful but I think if you actually understand enough that's talking their language and make fun of fucking stupid they are. I think. More people from signing onto. It. Makes Sense. I mean, honestly yes I don't I don't have any other weapons but roasting stuff. Writer on a facebook show I don't know what else to do. Now. Yeah. Well, I mean. Yeah. Also again like I think that just like. When people take shit like so seriously. which they all do I think? One of the best things you can do if you're talking about combating. Is just laughing and its face. Because of the way, they look at it all get out. I don't know. I here. They will say Kerley says, marks exactly right. They're trying to bring on the end of the world calls the rapture. Trick traded get dragged his rare southerner. He didn't drag to Sunday School for eighteen straight year. So the this stuff allied sometimes. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. I grew up basically a religious and it's always I mean like. I've been obviously aware of all this shit, my whole life, but I haven't been. Immersed in it and bombarded by like. So many of my. Fellow southerners have been and. Yeah it's just it's wild to my but. Here. Kathy incurring said I've never seen a vape black that that's just a jewel. It's all it is. All the kids have them very popular. So you're here. A Right Don Anderson says Mike Pompeo is about to speak from Israel live. That are in see that's why Mendoza was removed. She was the slot immediately before palm peyot they were they were both they were both plan to be there I. Know People were upset about pop pompeii. The Secretary of State is currently in Israel and is speaking at the RNC from there and they made the whole show of saying like. All the cost associated with him doing that will come from campaign funding and all that, and they won't be like taxpayer dollars. Else but people are pissed off because it's He's doing this. Essentially in his official capacity as the secretary of state on a diplomatic mission or whatever speaking at our INSEE in endorsing Donald. Trump. Yeah all these guardrails have had to keep us keep things working where where you do Lincoln and nod and pretend things are political like. The State Department's independent of campaigns south of fucking window. which is. Pretty clever way to solicit more foreign interference with the State Department be on your side if you help trump campaign went. I didn't really I didn't make the connection between. The antisemitic conspiracy theory are payback's being in Israel right now could be be a reason but also as we just talked about the State of Israel has. Basically formally endorsed and intimacy intimate spirit series by the pick their lives abroad because of being right wing is more important than. Not Wanting to kill them. Yeah. Zay. Rizek said I hadn't heard about Melania Talk Shit about Donald but Yeah. Apparently that's come in the next tell all book. So a new one comes out everywhere apparently the woman who falling out with Malania over whatever I was his best friend like executive assistant. I think. I think the one health plan, the inauguration, a bunch of money went missing to the might have been part of the fallout was that she stole from the trump's which you can help from steal, but he can't steal from trump's mostly they get their cut i. Apparently recorded a bunch of conversations Malania where she said that a long socks, Don Juniors and eighty one likes him and she doesn't Asthma Everyone know the stuff I mean what's IT GONNA do make their marriage bed. Right. Yeah Yeah may no one who? WHO Might have their mind changed by any of that is going to give a shit about any of its multiple people have brought up. Richard Spencer. Endorsing, Joe Biden Richard Spencer. They noted Outright Neo Nazi. Here in America officially endorsed Joe Biden and Joe Biden. Of. Officially renounced his endorsement and called him repugnant and said, now we don't want your support whatever so that that did happen. I don't I. Don't like. We were also text him about this a little bit last night I don't. It doesn't mean not supposed to write him my supposed to give a fuck about this about what like I don't give a fuck about any of that nudes other opinions like supposed to care about endorsing Joe, is that supposed to mean something? Does I don't believe anything. He says so. Do Do do I think that he would rather joe, Biden the. OSCE do because trump's presidency is not been good for him lake grab these guys need. An enemy and power. To fundraise and profit off of right, right right like Obama, like yeah getting Obama. There for eight years gives them to something point to point at and scream about yet, which elevates their their British. Hate groups in the Obama years were the best. Years that hey, groups of militias it had in years because the paranoia around a black president and you probably and late let me like little trump's. Since trump got elected Richard Spencer has gone broken. His wife has left and he's living with his mom who another right winger up I remember the story right or another right robbery with like all right dude swat like had the swat sent to his mom's house. So. I'm saying is the inauguration day Richard Spencer return that is pepe, the frog pen and got punched in face by Dude from black rock that might have been the high point of trump's presidency for Richard spects. Right. Yeah Yeah I like. Yeah I don't know I feel like a lot of people were treating it like that. Was Indicative of something. But this do toll thing is being he's a troll. Like he's a classic troll. You don't feed the trolls ICU who gives what? Who He's endorsing what he sang very close college friends with Stephen Miller Miller hasn't gotten a job in the White House. Right Now let's see here zoo. Orion Ericsson said trae how stander you right now I'm not down at all the people. Think you're the people think you're sweet I think. This way is not here's the thing. I'm one of the biggest lightweights on planet were Wade is concerned I live in. California. I do fuck with some legal weighed but very, very, very, very lightly like I'm the type that if I like I get like a five milligram gummy and I have to cut it into pieces to take it that's the truth because otherwise I will I will commune with the void in fatal position for eight hours if I don't like. With me I just can't I got nothing against it, but it don't. Well, that is exactly why take ten milligrams before I go to sleep the. Got Your. People Bring Kellyanne Cau-. Kellyanne Conway who is. leaving. Apparently she's she's taking her leave from. Trump country. My knee jerk reaction to that is. That she thinks a big L. is come that she yeah like a rat off a sinking ship type of thing maybe it's not it but that's where my head goes. Same thing is Richard Spencer I don't believe anything these people say or do whatever's going on her family is. A tremendous branding exercise. That's one thing that's happening because if they successfully established. A George her and the daughter Claudia as voices on three distinct parts of political online. The daughter makes socialistic toxin tweets. The husband is a an a never-trumper who's making me. Now, and he's she's well centered to make a killing in mainstream republican politics if she can avoid the ugly downfall if she can start getting gigs. Short. She'll be corporations to stop lobbying for late specially if trump wins. So. I don't know how much Claudia's online presence is hostile and how much of it is a teenager going through a really rough time and either way I I feel bad giving too much attention to it and she's a part of me thinks she's being honest and just going through a really rough time she accused her mama physical abuse. So, either way. That families have intense therapy either. Either because quality is being on answer because he isn't so either way it's that right? Well, we are pretty much out of time I WANNA do a quick shout out here even though I'm not I'm not a fan personally marks Dallas Mavericks. I've been digging what they're doing y'all should be watching the NBA playoffs fucking twenty one year old Loka Don-shik. Let me tell Ya. This kid is something else he's. Tipped thousand our go for all on now. Twenty right now about twitter I I've been there they've been there. But at the same time, right? Right, Anyway Yeah Shutout Luca and the Maya. And? Yeah I ain't watching basketball. You should be shits it and I lived in a like A. Fair weather fan by the way lived in Dallas for eleven years and that's GonNa. Become a maverick rights. Well that's it. For another edition invaded excuse we'll be back in forty eight hours on Thursday. We'll see you right here. Same place same time. Love you all very much. So you buy so by Mart? How'd Y'all welcome back? Today's Thursday August twenty seventh crowder. That's Mark Edgy. WHAT'S UP Mark? Look Very. Open this evening skis as always we like to begin on the skews with an update on American dumb assery and tonight's no different set. It is a little bit different because tonight work prognosticating a bit because see we pride ourselves bang on the bleeding edge of dumb shit in this country, and thus we felt it just wouldn't be right to name a dumb ass of the day without first hearing the remarks that are soon to be made by President Donald Trump at the Republican national convention. In a mere matter of hours. So we were saying is we're no stir dumb assing. POSTER DUMB. ASS thing I like it. Yeah we we just thought it would be disingenuous if not outright irresponsible to name some other story or some other soundbite as the dumb ass clip for the day when we know that they dumb ass in chief is yet to speak this very evening. So mark I know we're not we're not vegas oddsmakers or anything but what did you think is GonNa be the dumbest shit out of his mouth here in a couple of hours. Using this kind of sticks the teleprompter especially, with note, live crowd the chairman. Doing at the White House probably makes them employees state a classroom so. I what I've been reading is there expect they're expected to have like a crowd a thousand people there. I. Don't know I. Don't know how they're going about to come dozen or how that's. I don't know the details behind that but I've read multiple places because obviously getting a lot of flack for that. Rightfully. So specially after his Tulsa Rally or whatever. It's less than he normally packs into a small area but yeah. From what I've read they're expecting like a thousand people at this address at the White House. So that's a good dumb ass start. I mean it is I. would say that I think the testing rapid testing now's the didn't have also so maybe it'll be fine I don't know. But lie about the results anyway. Even if a bunch people test positive 'cause you can't have like a five hundred. Those thousands posits enough to be a good crowd. So you gotTa have the. Somebody to find the teaser cannons into you know. Absolutely. So. Here's one thing I'm wondering about it. Like. A huge factor for trump or a huge thing he leaned on and twenty six was being an outsider draining the swamp and all that. He's not he's not part of the you know bureaucratic. Machine in Washington and that was part of the appeal for him for a lot of people. Is he going to keep that up and how do you go about that when you have been the sitting president for four years just You just pretend the describe I mean it's always hustling the world like everybody George W the same thing. Again as Washington washing outside in two thousand and there was dad was president has was a senator. Iran is a mini grant again as watching outside of two, thousand, four, hundred have been president for four years presided over nine eleven. I don't know. It's weird. It's weird. I don't know I don't get it. I figure a lot of it will come down to Emphasizing how much of an insider Joe Biden is He's senator almost fifty years of experience whatever and I feel like that's going to be part of the part of the span and mean they've been shitting on Biden. All we obviously, of course, they're going to do that but I'm saying when it comes to this particular dynamic I think that's GonNa, be a lot of the angle. There is like, yeah, he's been trump sitting president for four years but Jill Biden has been in government for half a century and he was you know he was there for the preceding years worst eight years in American history according to trump and his So figure it's going to be some of that type of shit. There's going to be that, but also he starts free willing I imagine He'll magical talk about Kenosha, which I think we're going to get to later and I probably talk about. Do Kamla. birther stuff. Even if it's just a brief aside, he can't help him so. Yeah I guess right. So. As part of the whole shit non Biden and also talking about you know he's the ultimate insider and that type of thing I'm sure they're gonNA keep up the rhetoric that I've already had gone all week at the RNC where they talk about. Like obviously, things are terrible in. America. Right now obviously to me, but apparently not to everybody but they've been trying to do is sort of pitch this idea that. Things will only be even worse if Biden and the Democrats were in charge right? And I'm sure that's going to be heavily featured about like the nightmarish dystopia that awaits us all if Joe Biden and Kamala Harris actually win. and. Part of that will be based upon the idea that they are such extreme progressives that it will just turn us into like you know a Communist. Gay Sex food stamp factory of a country or whatever but debt-reduction Damn. Definitely going on and use of food stamps to buy gay sex as the number one thing I'm doing. Right up. Assure shut what but like the thing about that is it was the same way with Obama to for me because I was a huge Obama fame when he was running the first time and I love Obama and I miss him every day but like This thing they don't they don't realize that. The beef most. Self described liberals have with Biden Obama Commonly Harris, as Democrats is that they're nowhere near progressive enough. Do you know what I talk about them like these? Radicals. But for most of us, the whole issue is that there to moderate in the first place and I feel like I'm sure a lot of them. I do know that but I feel like. A lot of them also realize that and imagine how freaked out they would be if they really did. We I don't know We got like a hundred years of. Brainwashing. Poisoning from like like like. Against any left wing movement the case in point. The NBA staff, there's guys went on strike. We don't have a for because labor movements. So so crushed in America that they call it a boycott, which is like somebody just points using this using the language of consumers. Boycotts don't buy a product. Were withheld dragged live, right? Yeah. When you was hauled your labor, that's a strike which is yeah. Do. But we don't we don't have like we don't have a mental framework for like Detroit Explainer Lake Sandy by irregular American that Lake even just thirty years of history ago. That obamacare was based upon Mitt Romney's health care plan in Massachusetts, which was built upon a Heritage Foundation plan that newt. Gingrich put out at opposition to what Hillary Clinton's health care plan in the early nineties literally. The obamacare is what Newt Gingrich for posts in nineteen ninety four as a market based solution. So like Democrats government like the the right wing parties in in in England and are treated as though they're left wing parties in north Vietnam. It's pretty it's. Gang rap back to that. But a quick comment about the mustache I get a lot of them. Larry Myers. Careful try that mustache beginning to look like it belongs on confederate general. Larry why not union general we all know why is a last sound because of my accent now I've been. The Self Roast I've been doing the mustaches I've got a whole confederate Barista thing going on I feel like. That sort of sums up what I'm doing here at a just going to do this because they the to an important factor for me like three, hundred, thousand southerners fought for the Union you could very well have been in union general. Yeah even with this accent Larry. Anyway, for back to. Talking about yeah, I used to have. Like. My old job back in Tennessee and I worked with a lot of like you know young professional republicans like not not redneck all boys from my hometown is my point. People who are like, you know more articulate generally speaking about their arguments and things like that. And this was during the Obama era and they obviously just hated Obama couldn't stand him and we would have. Would have discussions about it. I was like I. I have a huge Obam, but then I was saying, I but you know. Look I've been I've been disappointed by a lot of things about Obama to and they would like seize on mad is like right? Yeah. You know what I'm talking about and you know now I made it into the exact opposite. Because he's nowhere near. Where near progress for liberal enough for my taste. And they think that he was like the. Car for mark of American presidents whatever Karl Marx have. Been Black. You're you're disappointed in a Bob. Because he drones too many Afghans and they're disappointed about drawing Afghans didn't make him erect. Yes right. I feel like another thing that's GonNa come up in this speech because already talked about it in a lot of the other speech so far has to do with them law and order they did the whole long I mean they always do the law and order law and order was a huge part of the campaign in two thousand sixteen to and they're still leaning on it right now. Last night. Mike Pence was talking about the law the general lawlessness in American liberal cities like. Minneapolis Portland and Kenosha. But there's never any mention of like. What precipitates these protests or where any of that is coming from. And Like just for example. There's been a lot of other protests in the in the during the trump presidency, right? Obviously there are people on trump's side protesting the country being shut down because of corona virus earlier this spurning but also other liberal protests like the women's pro the women's marches in the women's protests right after trump was inaugurated in January twenty seventeen stuff like that i. I mean frankly white people protests what people on both sides right and People aren't getting fucking shot at those protests. Do you mean like people aren't getting just violently put down at those protest and? Why not like? How do you explain that? Other than the obvious I forget, which is either Michigan Wisconsin. Win The the open up protests when open carry people push past cops with loaded rifles in occupied a house and we're intimidating legislative the legislators leave the building the occupied, the gallery with weapons which is. You know. Maybe, more perspective gun laws. If you're if you're if you don't be in a room with open therapy or maybe you pass a law. Carry guns into the State House and that none of the guys get shot now exactly and so following onto that kind of transitioning a little bit about Kenosha. minute. There's multiple reports everything about this. So protested Kenosha after Jacob Lake was shot at the protests that resulted from that. Two three people were shot two people shot to death. By. A. pro-trump seventeen year old gun carrying lunatic from nearby. Illinois. What was the guy's name? I had I had it. Pulled up earlier. So fucking. Boy. Kevin Forget doesn't. Help me out here on should. ratted it. It doesn't matter but anyway. So trump guy who had. Cal Rittenhouse as. It's written how seventeen year old pro-trump guy on his twitter says like I'm just trying to be famous. He imposed multiple tick tock videos a him trump rallies and things like that. He goes to the protests and Kenosha ends up. Murdering people and he has been arrested and he has been charged with murder but there's multiple reports and videos and stuff from the protests and that that happens shows the cops at those protests like giving him water. Helping him along basically seventeen year old with a gun right and the cops are like you know. Glad to have you. Thanks thanks for being here. Using video video of a police officers dappling up for our boys and doing the covert. Okay. Sign Adam and stuff like that which is. Chosen side and it's not the sight alone order by the way and I don't like the phrase makes less sense to me that ever has my life because. It doesn't. It's meaningless. It just means you obey the rules. So I don't have to, which is the weirdest thing a law and order are are even the same concept because. A. Assert as an order society tolerates a ton of disorders fifty twin speed like we we have a ton. A ton of free society is the balance a ton of stuff rate that you have the given right now we have a, we have a open carry right and you have a first amendment. Now. Those are in conflict when somebody shows up with a gun to threaten people who are expressed in the first amendment rights and the rule of law enforcement officers should be tried to try to find a balance agree like, Hey, guys. Maybe, stand further back maybe this sizable parts of both sides can be doing with. Doing a free society, right? That's. That's a lot of this is managing human behavior. Did can't be written down a page. A rule to follow is just coaching people through social situations. Right? That would be that'd be a functional role for law enforcement in the scenario, but instead they picked a side and apt. Up and two people are dead and the other guy got shot in the arm and rough. Go ahead no go ahead. Finish finish your thought. It. I've seen a couple of different like Lake Tiktok like not to talk the apple like like. Try to figure out time stamp of what happened in what order because I haven't really seen good explanation of what actually started the violence here although it's pretty clear that. After he shot the first guy. Whatever precipitated acas people are saying, he threw Molotov cocktail over the slow down the video shug throwing a paper bag with something in it although one angle like maybe maybe it wasn't fire flaming bag or. I don't know. So he killed that guy and then other people. See Him commit murder in try to do you know stop him which you're supposed to the mass shooter. Right? They've been the right wing have been saying all you just Russia as we be coaching school kids to do is to Russia shooters, mass shooter situations as they do that, but he wasn't will attack him. So that self defense it. So that's the new spin on how would. You Be Delaney who isn't because he shot a guy and he took a gun to a place to defend buildings and he's vigilante support but the vigilantes are trying to stop guy shooting people are they deserve get murdered because they're attacking a guy so who's really? And and just. To Act like I don't know if like a lot of them would be were framed argument as. People trying to maintain law and order, and then anarchist vigilantes on the other side, and that's what's going on and race doesn't factor into it. But. But what? What what definition is? Your shooting people in the head to stop a window Abraham like how does that mean to wars the being more disordered? Right well, it's was like we talked about on Tuesday talking about Jacob black-eyed keep already like what happens every single time the police shoot a guy. Started, talking about all the other things this guy had done prior to being shot by the police every time so far every single time like look if a dude has a gun in a shooting at cops and he gets shot back. Yeah. That's just what happens I like. Doing that. It should be a last resort but what always happens every single time? One of these cases comes up is that it's like, why don't I don't I don't care I don't give a shit what else he did before that. Didn't it should not. It doesn't justify being executed in Jacob is not he's not dead he's alive, but he was paralyzed but still like none of those arguments hold any water for me at all. None, of those things should result in a death sentence I don't care if the person liked math or whatever the fuck it shouldn't be shot over it. Is The DAD said he's handcuffed to the hospital bed. The Guy can't rise whilst the ability to walk in his needs to be on life support. Right? We have him handcuffed to the bed yes and so an another thing about this like I said that people try to frame it as though it's not it isn't racially motivated. Anarchist and whatever else. But they don't bring race into it RNC. Multiple speakers. We have explicitly stated that we don't have a problem with systemic racism Nikki Haley was like they say America's Rice's country. I'm telling you right now America is not a racist country things like that but I just don't you said that she said America Racist Country and then she immediately pivoted to how much Predator parents facedly I move here and how they overcame at cheating American dream. Bright. But I just don't know how watch this clip I'm about show menu in both saying it but fro viewers watch this clip. And look me in the face and tell me that none of this shit is racial at all mark. Tell me if you don't order. The thing is this isn't this isn't this is from two thousand, eight, clear right you're right and. This this is the sheriff of Kenosha and you're at this clip is not related Jacob Blake this. Nineteen, when they had a spate of like shoplifting, here's To say. Listen this know that it's about shop five shot replace got caught up. Yes shoplifting and again, this dude is still. He's the he's the sheriff. Still this clip is old, but he's still this guy but anyway so listen this and mark if you don't hear anything, tell me immediately soccer fix it around. Here we go. Society. has to come to a fresh threshold where there's some people that aren't worth saving. We need to build warehouses to put these people into it and lock them away for the rest of their lives. Let's put them in jail. Let's let's stop them from. Truly at least some of these mails going out and getting ten other women pregnant and having small children. Let's put them away at stunk point. To stop being politically correct and I don't care what race care how old they are. If there's a threshold that they cross. These people have to be warehouse no recreational college shoplifting in the jails right. We put them away. We put them away for the rest of their lives so that the rest of us can be better. Right exactly. So yes, people should be warehoused. Sterilized. Locked up forever away from the rest of society for shoplifting and again of court like they always do he makes a point in the middle of that to say I don't care what race you are whatever. But Dude Watch that she didn't tell me that he ain't talking about fucking black people like. He's also the extremely could language me says from getting women pregnant having small children is last time I checked everyone has children has small children but these are apparently especially small useless children. These people are having A. Real problem for society gotTA figure. Out. Like I don't, and so also as a side note that is that's the sheriff in Kenosha. They're also police chief, right? It's a city county situation. And the police chief this week when asked about the people who were murdered by Rittenhouse by the seventeen year old. He said, here's what he said. He said quote everybody involved was out after the curfew. I'M NOT GONNA make a great deal of it but the point is the curfews in place to protect people have persons not been out involved in violation of that. Perhaps the situation that unfolded would not have happened if it is the person who. This is not the action I believe of those who set out to do protests is the person who were involved after the legal time involved in illegal activity that brought violence to this community. So still very very thinly veiled straight up blaming the protesters for being shot. Seventeen year old vomiting also the curfew. Has Nothing curfews pretext to give police licensed to beating arrest right get this for an existing like that's that's only reason that curfews that exist is so that if they have a curfew, you don't have to be doing something other than existing after a certain point on the clock for them to retaliate. If you're if you're if you're protests seven, fifty nine, you're a good citizen eight Oh one you're carrying your has to jail. Adage loud. And it's also like David. Here in L. A., R. Experience as soon as they stopped having the curfews. There were no more confrontation it literally just the curfew escalated conflict because police would put on the right shields and charge into crowds which stopping the curfew the same seven, fifty, nine protests kept on happening till eleven then people been home peaceful is literally just bid please charging into crowds to enforce an arbitrary curfew and also sort of ridiculous to have a curfew. It's like we fucked up and shot a dude shouldn't shots now all all your assets if go to bed at eight, five PM, fights fucking stupid. Right. Yeah and it's also like. Related to that again like we alluded to it earlier but. They talk about like. The burning of public buildings and shit like that or looting and rioting and windows getting broken whatever else. But like they never ever bring up. Why those gatherings even existed in the first place. First of all, obviously, I've been to a bunch of protests here in La at. There have been professionally shit like that has gone down. I have not seen any of that ever and regardless even at the ones where there was fucking looting and that sort of thing. Ninety eight percent of the people there are not doing it. But Furthermore No one would be there gathering in any capacity. If you had. Martin. Other guy. And they they never address the the of any of these symptoms that we're all seeing. The. They the the coverage that they as the shooter in Kenosha this continual Kyle Kid. This story still blend the protesters. It'll be a face stuff like. Seventeen year old a kid arrested in connection with shooting deaths that happened at. Canossa protests that turned violent. It's like well, who turned violent and how's IT connected in Woodside was on you know I don't know I don't understand I i. don't WanNa do the outside agitators thing and all that dumb shit because. What happens here is everybody's vilifying their neighbors that like their neighbors or some sort of like invading four and. This kid apparently was across state lines like up. Close, by his mom drove him up to shoot people. His. Mom drop them off at the murder. fucking. Everything is so ridiculous right now but yeah, like he so. He goes up there. With a gun on. Thinking he's GonNa like. Help the police. Control. This lawlessness or whatever the fuck, and then he gets there in the police are extremely receptive to him and supporting what he's doing and all this, and then you know why what need feel empowered to just to shoot some of these obvious criminals and this guy's mind. Because of the message has been sent by the other side as it relates to all of this shit you know. Yeah. The. The police are exactly I, mean. No No Police Department in the United States right now thanks to the war on terror is armed. They the you see this random police departments in. Ferguson. Missouri Kenosha Wisconsin. Minute something goes wrong. They looked like a you know a characters from call of duty or halo they do not need your health. The only thing. And this is how they used him is you get to new more violence can while the cameras are on right and they up yet by ability? Yeah and another thing about that I used to, as I mentioned before I used to work for the Federal Government Mild Daij outdoor for the Department of Energy but still as part of that, we add a lot of trade. Society. We live in out as we had a lot of yearly training on active shooter situations how to handle an active shooter and law enforcement was always involved in those trainings and every single time. They made a huge point a huge point, any active shooter training from law enforcement of. Do not get involved like you are. If you are present for something like that we don't we don't want you. Coming out with your gun and trying to beat fucking Batman whatever by men don't use guns but you know you get the point. because. This is obvious like We're not gonNA know we see you with a gun trying to be vigilante. We're just going to see a guy with a gun you know and you're going to get shot. All you do is complicate matters they preached that shit to death when it comes to just regular active shooter trainings but in a white kid shows up to racially motivated protests with a gun and they're just giving him water and Shit, and that's all fine. Like Something very funky. There is a point and it's pretty obvious. It's pretty obvious what? Is Behind it all. To White, dude got killed right or one of them was at least now. Right. So the I got dude he apparently had a gun but of course, one guy gets the gun doesn't. Right. So related to this A rare story on the excuse from the world of sports. Before live on a Kosheh did like the just we've like, if things get worse but just know it's always kind of been this bad someone was reading Nixon Land and push it screengrabs from it. After Kim State Fifty, eight percent of. People surveyed. Thought that the National Guard was right to kill those for college students and the local newspapers flooded with positive letters thanking the National Guard for killing those caused students and this one lady they interviewed said, there'd the active she was proud of the guard. The person was like you're three sons were out there and she said, well, they didn't follow orders they should've been mowed down to. So. Yeah okay. I didn't know any of that I mean I. Guess I'm. I'm. Not, that surprised but I didn't know that that's crazy and also like I'm sure I'm sure you could find plenty of people racist or not even read while I'm sure these people would also be racist but like just hardcore conservatives. Still out there today who if you got into the conversation with Kent State situation with them say basically the same thing. Yeah. Was it was justified or whatever but. I'm sure you could find those people but generally speaking. The way we look back upon the. CAN'T The can't stay. Massacre is a massacre. You don't have to you know what I mean like the way it's taught in generally discussed outside of like extremists, motherfuckers is like what a stain. On Modern American history, this was what a tragedy this was that this happened. because. History works in progress works at light. We're going to be saying the same thing about this. Shit. Yep however may year forty years later whatever however far removed we are from can't state now people who their kids themselves about where they were at the time. What happened was we laughed we lost Vietnam everyone generally. conceded. It'd be non was a bad idea and therefore the kids can stay were right and so I agree with them of course, obviously like the. Surveys you ask everyone who was alive at the time like seventy percent of people say they voted for JFK. But he barely won that election probably had some cheating in Chicago to get to cross the line and So it there obviously lying my friend who funny versus friend His mom swears the I m she voted for president was for JFK except he he did the math and she was sixteen that election. And he was like mom you couldn't have voted for JFK, you weren't. She's still insists she voted for JFK. And she was eighteen even though she was born two years too late to have done. So, right? Yeah. Right because I think I think there's a thing in most all people that they want to be like they want to ban on the right side of the thing. When you but We try to make an argument to people who are you know? Super into law and order right now or whatever pick your snack areo. Argument of like, how are you going to explain this shit, your grandkids you know what I mean like you don't think they're going to be ashamed of you and it doesn't make any kind of impact on people right now even though. Thousands of years of history illustrate. That that's exactly what's going to happen by. We're just going to be shameful in fifty years less than fifty years but like there, your grandchildren are going to be ashamed of you. For Shit like that and so it was probably GonNa happen statistically is you're GONNA end up lying about it to them like you were just describing. So why not? Try to do better in the moment you know these people can't do it. That way I mean we can't have any conversation in this country without going meet the level ten like for example, like a fairly benign requests. After. All these videos is like, Hey, we need to do something to a minimum have a federal way to get police to. Be Less. Quick pull trigger. You, know in general, right it seems like a fairly straightforward asked. For. Good government purposes because these are these are people that are funded by tax payers. Like shoot less people and then immediately people go. Well, that's communism. I don't even understand how things connect. Argued about anybody. Police shooting more people is good and but you look at. This way everything look at like I was reading about. Mask and I was looking at like the same arguments about steep belts in the nineties. That people were saying that that was a step towards teutonic to have seatbelt laws is anyone gonna stay up right now like I would I said in nineteen ninety five or whatever that seat belts are GonNa lead to authoritarian communism and by God I was proven correct. Yeah Yeah. Right and Yes I mean like. It just you're one hundred cigarettes that every every day to. Immediately we're so polarized now. And that's such a huge part of it like I've. People I think on both sides do this thing but still. You make someone who's on the opposing side from you. In the macro sense generally speaking and we have this tendency right now in America to immediately immediately place that person on the extreme end of that spectrum you don't main without actually talking to them at all like I go. You know I'm from very small town in Tennessee I'm from the rural deep South. I still go back there every year when there's not a fucking pandemic going on. And I still I'm still from hang out? With. All the guys who went to high school is you know we're still. A lot of us are fellow liberal rednecks, lot of them are on the same side as me but some of them are not some of them are more stereotypical in that way with their political leanings. These conversations with like. This is like verbatim actual conversation. You know one of my buddies with come you know we'll come up to me or they're on the like or whatever, and just be like. I just don't understand why you think. Why you believe I shouldn't be able to own a gun. You know like I'm like, you know me like I'm a I'm a family man I got kids my I like to hunt you know like. You know you know may try I ain't gonNA. What's wrong with me owning a gun? Why do you believe I shouldn't be able to own a gun? It's always like. I I don't believe that Kobe like I don't. Believe that you know. What I actually believe is start lying like there are plenty people in this country who should known a gun because they're lunatics extremist or whatever, and it shouldn't be easy for them to give for these people to get a gun you know and actually like lay it out and you know. The guys always like typically ends up being like. Yeah well, I. Agree. With that we end up discovering we pretty much agree we agree to ninety five percent of it where that particular issue is concerned. Most people. Put me in that. At that other five percent or whatever without even actually talking to me about it and again I think people on both sides do that but it's what leads to a lot of the bullshit we have. So it's social media as a as we do the show on facebook social media, lease people unable to see humanity anyone else. You can do it camps real quick but the you've actually talked to a person you realize you do you agree on. Ninety, seven percent you might you might. You might link your priorities differently, right? Right whereas like if your kid got shot in a mass shooting at school gun control might be your number one issue. If you If you live in a border state and work in a factory stopping liberal illegal immigration might be your number one you know it's like but. Things get two different work priority or is but people tend to agree. On stuff like there's a a great special Jordan. Clever did a couple years ago reinterviewed people in all different. Ends the gun range of the gun debate and everyone Joni agreed. The ninety percent of the polling supports a ninety percent of people like the. There's a huge guy like had five hundred guns. It makes his living doing like machine gun instruction was like, yeah I mean, why would three days? Right I. I don't want somebody who has five convictions for beating women to own a gun talk women. What would it be in favor of that? Debate supreme debates were stupid and their heightened by media apparatus who like who make money off conflict you know. Yeah, and you know like I've seen people on both sides do. I remembered another story about me doing the same thing. My wife is from a different but very similar, culturally extremely rural area in Tennessee on the other end of the state, her family's all. rednecks and shit and I was back there. The last time we went back there I was on the porch and her uncle shows up. Been Drinking Tequila and I know this guy but he's like he's ran his fuck it's her uncle or names omagree. Read but he's sitting out there on the porch and knows I'm the liberal quarrier in family or whatever, and so he gets into guns right and he's like. He's like look. He he goes in this whole thing and he goes he goes the only thing wrong with buying a gun in the United States of America and in my head I'm like Jesus. Here we go. He goes don thing wrong with buying a gun in the United States America is it it's too Goddamn as easy to do. And I was like I did not say that that's not where I thought you were going with that I'll call. You know. But then again, we had a conversation about it and pretty much agreed on most of it and that's how that. Shit. Tends to go if you actually see it through but you know like I said, that's not starting point a lot of people who are at so. I did want at least mentioned. In, the last episode to mirror two days ago, we signed off talking about the NBA and how great it was great. The playoffs had been like from An. Entertainment perspective I was like watching the NBA playoffs you should be and then yesterday albeit temporarily the NBA playoffs got cancelled because of these exact issues we're talking about the Milwaukee Bucks Milwaukee. Wisconsin is like canoas like by route Milwaukee, like they're essentially the same place in the Milwaukee Bucks. Refuse to take the floor yesterday against the Orlando Magic they took a stand, and after that happened, is that off the sort of domino effect word the rest of the players on the rest of the teams also took a stand started and like you mentioned this earlier people say the players are boycotting the league. But as you pointed out, no, they're not they're not boycotting anything they're on a strike they went on strike as response to this. Situation. We have like they're in the bubble down they're not allowed to leave. They'd been there for like weeks at this point. Too. Much feel. They feel very helpless right and like what else are they supposed to do? So they they took a stand and they ended up they had a bunch of meetings among the players they ended up they're going to. They resume the play offs but like I said last night and thinking about it, I don't know how you feel about it but I. I think could make an attorney direction because as far as. Like the players got because they were. A lot of players like. Now, fuck this for striking what we gotta do. And this is doing something and of course I respect and support that. But. There were also a lot of people in his players to Die Barclay. Kenny the Smith walked off the set of inside the NBA in support of the players striking. So he was basically saying like, yeah, fuck this. We're done. We're taking stay in. The Charles Barkley and other analysts and other players their position was. Why not use this platform that we have this massive platform that we have to continue the conversation you know what I mean personally I think that's a valid argument too. You know like like. You make your point but I definitely think there's something to be said about like. Keeping the cameras on you while you say the right thing. I. Mean I think the way more attention than they've been getting by doing this big dramatic for sure at first I think that this this was a huge compromise position because they're gonna I guess restored basketball on a couple of days but if the We talk about this stuff tactically strategically instead of like Donna basic humanity level like people talk about weather, how the protesters should be behaving and the thing is they're not organized. It's a community expressing rage. We're not thinking tactically strategically powder affects the election. They're fucking pissed. I didn't want you to know they're pissed because no one's listening to them for her. Hundreds of years. And Dribble Yeah. So the the bucks specifically not a from the area where Jacob Lake got shot but they. A bucks players Sterling Brown is it place the bucks two years ago he's in the middle of a big lawsuit because he parked in a handicapped spot, a convenience store cops rolled up. Park Man. Handicapped spot. Right. This is one of those things where does up not defending give them a ticket right but get his hands in his pockets. It made the cops nervous his hands in his pockets. So they tased him and beat him and coughed him and arrested him right and so he's a little bit lost against them. Bucks had a player named John Henson there was a big incident. Like three or four years ago, he's not what the team anymore but he was trying he's you know wealthy guy plays in the NBA you're trying to go buy some jewelry at a high end store and they wouldn't bus him in because he didn't look like a guy who could afford high end jewelry but and then also there are bucks players who played with Taba tablets alosha WHO's the Guy. was with the next and got beaten by police and got his leg broken a couple years goes. This isn't Jessica and his career ended right like He. He didn't play any more to that I I'm not I can't I. I'm not sure. But I haven't heard the name in a broadcast for while that tracks but he is also suing my pediatric undergoes box who were his teammates time so They might. Again I'm saying this might not be strategic it might not have been a protest moved there might have been to fucking pissed to play. It might have been like. Screw this man like they did Kyle Kid just killed two people to protest no accountability in the police there. Just like I don't WanNa play I WANNA make a big statement. I. WanNa call the Attorney General and fucking yell at him which is what it. And people like what did accomplish will Landau magic owned by Betsy Devos's family devolve family had to come out support. Magic also not playing. Yeah. Yes. I mean like you said, it brought way more attention than they would have by just continuing to play the games with the messages on their jerseys and all the which is also great but it definitely was effective in that way and people were like well, what are they? What are they want to have? What are the NBA owners supposed to do? You know like Shit like that but you're talking about? Billionaires get. In this country, you start taking money out of billionaires pockets. And Shit will happen like undeniably. We all we live in fucking plutocracy the billionaires are the ones who control everything and you start taking away. Their nut and. That's how shit actually have. Now, we can effect change in other ways too but I'm saying, I, don't know how you could even make the argument that something like that wouldn't be effective. But I. also I'm saying I'M NOT GONNA hate on any player or anybody involved NBA. Who feels the other way about it would? You know what I was saying earlier like. At the idea that we can. We've got all the is on us. Now for doing what we did now, we can use that to continue. The conversation and whatnot as opposed to just just going away like if they just went away, it would be talked about. For the next little bit for sure. But Act guarantee you would not be talked about in. Mainstream. Media four the amount of time that the playoffs will going for I mean, I think there's something to be said for that argument to, but I think that what they did is. Commendable and. I'm all for it for sure they. Did Not, get to deep into like. NBA Player Finances and financing risk a lot of money and livelihoods and lawyers guys aren't rich like Lebron is. The has his own wealth inequality something like. Forty million a year and it's ten percent of his income and other guys are on like eight hundred, grand a year contracts, and if you play half the year and you take off fifteen percents, the top and have to maintain to residences and you're GONNA be in the League three years and you've got to try and stretch it out, live on the rest your life where you also go try to get jobs on cars or it's a big difference in their life and they they they. I'm not saying they're going to be poor, but they live live closer to you know to the check the check than we imagine they do a lot of them. Yeah. Right, and also like you know they're like, that's a lot of people have this idea of shut up and dribble or whatever like they're just there to be entertaining and whatnot but with the billions of dollars involved like and also all all the kids that look up to pro athletes and stuff like these guys not just an MBA but just professional athletes, they have a huge amount of influence you know and a massive. Platform like undeniably and. People WanNa tell him to shut the fuck up and do their thing. But you know this true for a lot of conservatives read next to you you. You take sports completely away. For these issues for a long enough amount of time. and. I guarantee you change change in people's minds. There's a quote that become a famous on on the Internet and I can't I can't remember the source of it. I just see it parodied a lot which angry with. Sports are the reward for a functioning society. The Bay is a major league baseball player that said, but I Like sound like Kobe Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. But that's you know that's fucking spot on my opinion Mike. You Want You want to be able to sit back and eat your peanuts enjoy fucking gladiators shit then. Everything else needs to be in place for that to. Happen. Yeah. Yeah. I just I was trying to look at four half found but you WANNA like one thing they accomplished. So the rockets owner is a big trump supporter name's tillman for data. Is a funny because he's like one of those flop sweat half brokerage news, WHO's likely finances or teetering You Know Teetering Pyramid but also family made their money being in a Houston Mafia. So there's that. But he he was forced to in trump's that his dumb shit about the NBA Today and he'd come out in view this guy who's on CNBC basically every day talk about like Landry steakhouse and a bunch of restaurants shed bogus shrimp factory and all that stuff so like he had to come out and. was quote he is cast rebuke says you know the human beings and they have the right to do whatever they want to do, and we're partners in this and they choose not play. That's their right. Okay. Earth them financially and hurt US financially and it hurts them all the other ways and hurts us all the other ways and that's just the way it is. So I try to think of it as all g no, and so basically. was cast a rebuke of prompt who he's at the West like you know pretty regularly. Yeah but but again, you know just having said all of that. I'm thrilled almost selfish personal that the playoffs will continue because said Tuesday, they had been hidden. I'm all for them like Voltaire. Let's say. Basketball. Let's see what you guys are saying over here. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah the atlas. While I'm waiting on some of these come through. Some I saw earlier apparently Nancy Pelosi said in a press conference in her opinion Joe Biden should refuse to debate. Donald Trump. Because she said that. Joe Biden shouldn't legitimize his. Bullshit shoots I bullshit. I would not legitimize conversation with him. And you feel about this. But I go I go back and forth on the idea that I don't think like other you're talking about like strategy or whatever sure Biden things are going great for Biden right now as far as the numbers and all that go so like you might not need it or whatever but the other part of me is like Dude. If you can't. Fuck him like He. Look how he talks. About things and the way he argues lag just I feel like if I was and Joe Biden's shoes, I'd be chomping at the bit type that motherfucker down me personally. Yeah I mean I guess the the the the. I don't even know what debates do anymore. I mean everybody thought Hillary smashed him at all three debates in two thousand, sixteen, you win the election so I don't willing. suede album I don't know if anybody's persuadable. But that stuff anymore if the ethics against matter more than the substance and So the risk is Biden says something stupid or he has one of his son Dhani moments and. flubs a bunch of stuff with strategically. It bothers me way more doesn't have a single field up question no one's doing any door knocking. He's doing the same thing. Hillary did with no operational -SCONSIN or whatever. Some comments for look here this one's from Youtube. You could tell by the nine they're fourteen zero zero says come on. No one likes Nancy Pelosi if her. I've heard keeps being. If I'm sure. He keeps being basement Biden he will lose by a landslide I just don't like. It just doesn't seem. To be the case for me like. Tam Alex says punchbag and APP again. On a personal. I, agree with that but if you're talking about strategy. Argue with. The way it's going so far like if he's going to bury himself in, continue to do subtle then fucking let him do it. By the way, he's doing a ton of media appearances and he's doing a lot. He's doing you know online speeches. Abused every outlet will talk to him but he's not like. Does basically thing is like he's not doing rallies but. You want to seventy seven year old guy traveling around a lot in the middle of a pandemic. If he hasn't ended up on a ventilator that's. GonNa help. Yeah. Cyber s the. Guardian of the river of health. Regarding the interest of hell three, hundred, three handed out the three headed dog. Guards, Heidi's down. There says, the guy who wants to debate knows he's losing. is about. Pelosi saying this about Biden and not seeing Biden out here calling for the debates or whatever. But. On that note. Lead to what I'm saying I feel like if you get to a point where trump is like calling you out for refusing to. Would fucking do you gotta do it like he? Like was other people were commenting like I. Don't trust Biden's capability these or whatever but dude like he. I mean you're right about what you said Mark. I also agree and twenty, six, nine I thought I thought Hillary Clinton dusted his ass and every debate but it didn't representative that well, the police. All the reviews were like the one was the famous Chuck Todd saying she seemed to prepare whatever that was that was like going criticism of the polling shows like seventy thirty when every debate, it didn't matter anyone he just didn't matter and it probably won't matter but I just I don't know it's like I was like the fucking redneck and may or something. Or. You know like as basically insinuating that you're a coward for not biting him or something like now you can have that go out there and. Services Ready to dynamic as old as time if you Lisa upstate no. Moved needles at all and no. Of We're signer now and I and I do agree with you mark that it. It, they probably won't unless one of these old old fuckers, Pisa Paths or waters off stage illiterate collapses I don't think does anything. But. The good. What services they that the person who's losing wants more debates. There are two separate, West? Wing. plotline about this, there's a go back to two thousand sixteen where Bernie went attend debates and Hillary wide to when they did three or four or whatever it's. It's always that amick. Yeah Roger. Thompson says I think Pelosi was just cornering slash goading trump to show up. I mean I. You know I could see that too. He certainly hates Pelosi and. It's funny because 'cause I'm sitting here saying, let them Talk Shit obviously trump at a lot of that in him to. Where you know anybody says anything remotely negative Adamy takes extremely personally so. On twitter he's a coward face to face. Right. Yup. TAMMI Smith rebuking from. Smith I. Love to close. A male huge fan but I like you taming. Karen. Kay says I can just imagine joe shaking his head saying what the hell are you talking about man? More, two hours. You can't argue with stupid I'll. But you know you can try Susan Car Mama. Will kick lot people were talking about the vice presidential debates and we brought them up on here before. That you know and I. said this last time too but. I would like to see that but also I my vince. is He allowed to debate a woman alone on stage like well, his wife allow that does his faith allow that to happen you know I guess. We'll see. Best say here. Lisa Parker. The best option for a debate is for Biden to pick three points ignore any questions, pilot style and On though. Yeah, that's basically what the the all the all the question pivots with germ. How they're they're judge how artfully they do that, which is the bullshit part of the process and they'd be like Oh it's great performance answering questions. It's very it's great for democracy right but again, like you said they, they do they all do that. That's one of the things infuriates me the most about politicians is that they have that that inclination to destroy it up, ignore the actual question and say whatever the hell they were going to say. Do Do I'll do it right. Ask Ask me a question like I'm a presidential candidate dry. More what do you think about? The situation with the border and immigration the feel that it really is a problem with his bank pudding cages or is this I? Think I feel like? I I of course, disagree with the President and about putting kids in cages but I talked to the mortgage with healthcare train. That's why I want to talk about my health care plan. Yeah. Here's three. You got it. Paul covered says Biden is doing fine. Just let trump talk and again I mean I think I think there's a Lotta validity to that argument as well. I just don't think. Again just on a like. Not a personal level but I don't know like. I don't like I don't like looking. I don't like appearing is if you are afraid to debate fucking Donald Trump me personally but I don't think it's afraid it's a someone who looks bad the the guy who's thirstiest shit chasing around begging you to debate him. As we have one of our other commenters not forgotten forgotten the name, but they said the person begging for debate is the person who's losing. A three headed hell hounds. Yeah. Apparently, I'll be honest. I. Guess. I missed this in the new cycle we're and a lot of comments about about this. Mary Frailey said I'm calling for drug tests yes. But do it fairly and let them know when it's coming. So trump trump brought up. He said that Joe Biden should be drug tested before debate or something. That's what a lot of people are saying over here. Do you know about the that either but I just as a general note. Fuck ran around tash show I ended drug test the debate. Out. Guy What does he think he's gone right? I. Don't. Yeah. Trump's with the river speed addiction. People know that bit trump's. Pretty well documented to be a speed at it. Yeah I don't. I don't know it's like that thing with the fucking cognitive test or whatever you know we're we're trump aced it when like anyone could ask who does not have Alzheimer's and then was demanding that Joe Biden Joe Madden Joe Biden wouldn't dignify that he would. You know he's he laughed it off every time and he should have laughed it off and that's how I would look at this situation to up my problem with trump isn't a European cold medicine crystal meth substitute might. If it was hoping, it was keeping awake twenty four seven to be a good president instead of the life Tweeden toilet for him I wouldn't give a shit. So like I I don't care about his drug problem. It's like baseball man hit more home they don't care. Up Let's end on the. Jets John. Gonzales says you to suck on my own. You get out of here buddy. We're we're getting out here to. Thank you for us another. Dose of. Thank you for joining us another edition of Evening Ski. Nick here's a say, the dumb ass. Bath.

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 786: The Chiefs Show Levels, NBA Finals Preview and MLB Wildcard Playoffs

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GSMC Sports Podcast Episode 786: The Chiefs Show Levels, NBA Finals Preview and MLB Wildcard Playoffs

"This is your alternate for everything sports, the golden state media concepts or podcast should I say more from the NFL MLB? The NBA? MMA it's all in here. Golden state media concepts, sports podcast listen. down. What does? To the MC splits podcast presented by G. S MC podcast network Mining Kris Blades, and before you started today when Michelle take the time out to remind you guys as always if you haven't already subscribe to the podcast. episode. Make sure you're on top stuff. Also, he is as well as five star rating view very appreciate avail philosophy as life dramatically, improve all that fun stuff, and also if you on social media, worst musical finest their twitter instagram facebook we can talk we can chat we can debate. We can discuss. And I WANNA start off today because I mean there's a couple of different topics we could south with an art discussions with on but I want talk to date talking about how? Everyone's playing for second place in the NFL at this point again, there's a lot of season left so that the whole play all she got everything yet see if they get the as multiple talk about. My second with the some new covert related stuff popping up which I mean. We knew we was going to we knew it was going to happen and just how soon happen and I guess it made and they made it three weeks. So not not too bad Everybody's playing for second place at this point in time if the chiefs say healthy homes healthy if tyreek hill healthy drivers Kelsey. Non. Guide, Edward Layer there often stays relatively healthy like everyone. In the NFL's playing for second place. Because? In many people's minds even after yesterday old two days ago when you hear this. and even after after what we saw on even after this weekend, different things many people still argue. The Ravens may will be the second best team in the NFL peer not even just AFC like the NFL period now. I. Mean You could argue that opposite they're not Nolan there's like I think seven, three, zero teams so you can make the argument around them. Different things but again, best team does not necessarily mean record. like I said as we As we as I said last or with last season like the the packers records thirteen and three. But so far this team as a better than that team grant I don't know if they're gonNA finish the teen in three, but there were other teams that have worse records in thirteen and three that I thought were better than the packers. The. Super Bowl. So there is that but they had record the record. The best record is not necessarily better record not necessarily mean team just mean dispense who you played in those first couple weeks but that's not the point. The point is that. When, clicking on also under which the chiefs were Last night. They are better than everyone else. And I think like I said that was this was this game that goes in one of the. Prominent one of the best Monday night football matchups in recent memory like the last two MVP winners both under twenty five is going to be future the NFL Blah Blah Blah. And within about a quarter, a quarter and a half maybe. You could say it was pretty clear that the GPS. And Ravens. Should not have been on the Stanfield at least that again, we'll see what happens they play again but it was clear that the there was a gap. In in the do like I said the the the chiefs came out early often score. They were up twenty, seven, ten at halftime homes I think. Three passing touchdowns and a rushing touchdown. by the end of the first half, just showing off and showing out I mean just making this is basically doing whatever he wants out there. I mean as I've been saying owners podcast, he's the best quarterback in the League by. By far but I mean. The the gap between him. The Russell Wilson's of the world. Isn't small. It's not like massive, but it's not like that small either like again it's just it's clear that when he's at his best and that's Kinda. View these guys is winning that his best he is head. He's a he's better than everyone. We made me. Made, may eventually go down as one of the best quarterbacks ever already may be one of the best quarterback towns we've seen at the position Lisa G in terms of what my eyes seen that I haven't that NC Dan Marino highlights and presidency my problem Joe Montana or John Elway or different the other guys that may potentially hold that. Title when it comes to like just count the position. Is Again Tom Reason most accomplished so There is that an upset does factor when you look at the things that mahomes can do compared to the things that Tom Brady can do. It's I I mean no disrespect to Tom Brady, but it's Kinda. So yeah, and also I said up until this point it had been. In Roger Things to do the move the throws he could make the accuracy had all those things I was like this is the most talented guy in granted most town does not mean best. One preface my. The this conversation by saying that the most counted I'm in the best player. Especially when talking about don but I, mean at this point is there's there's no reason to believe that mahomes may not. Will that there's no reason to believe that he may not be the best or the most talented. Person Ever. Play the quarterback position. French the game what thirty four, thirty, one, hundred, forty, two, eighty, five, yards, four touchdowns. No picks wasn't sacked Is like I said it just like he does does things that other people don't do it again I wanna give them credit eighty near the enemy because it wasn't just. A patent homes out there doing everything but getting the throw he had on the Michael Harsh. Double. Move. Like most quarterbacks wooded drift backwards and left in the pocket, the bottoms of enough, time. To to let Michael Work Down the field they Nellie of the arm strength to begin with just then like no hitch just like just stop your feet. Plan throw in. That's what he was able to do. Because again like no, one would teach you like, hey, out in this route drift away from the route to then set up the throat but that's what he does and that's why some times us from and can be. Difficult to Him, because there are times he'll just back up. At Mount just because same thing did not big playing super bowl tyreek hill. That wasp play I believe. We just got back up of backs up and then just like because he has armed frank he knows he can just go down am I said that's what he did and that's what he's done. Investigations most quarterbacks can't do that. Most quarterbacks can't do unconventional things, NBA, successful back homes. But because Bash Mahomes E. News kind kinda thing like I said Don't want to just make this the homes I've been obviously Andy Reid Eric the enemy wrong were showcasing. Their skill says on full display Eric, the enemy I. Don't think I would honestly there's no chance but I would be shocked if he isn't a head coach Miss Time next year, he should have been a head coach all season in my personal opinion because again when you`re Not The main architect is though any resemblance but when he has a lot of input, a lot of say. On what is Probably, the best offense in the leave when like healthy mahomes goes are like they dealt with some things lashing Housi- The bug the ravens had a great season. But again, when everything's clicking the best offense in football and now see now they have a more. More supposed to running back did lash even with like the deeming Williams who was good but again, original air. Might be just as good if not better especially by the end of the season because he's only three games into your year. We own your the architects of that kind of offense. Again, you've helped grown help coach Mahomes in health like develop some of these plays and help make some decision the different things like that. Is that there's no reason why you shouldn't be especially in the in a league were offense is as important as emphasis now, again, the game. especially with all the rules and everything's designed to score points. So again, if you have a coach of a team that continues to score points at a record pace. Record Pace. Added an easy great glade said, that's what that's the funny thing about watching. Good football teams. Is that it makes you like if you like a fan of a bad team like. I like I. said I'm Eagles Fan. We've been struggling especially on offense but like if you're like a giants fan jets fan. Like teams like that? When you're when your team is bad if you're watching different sport especially on the offense event. Legs at the the ease in which the cheese can move the ball down the field ease in which they can scheme guys open the ease in which they can like like dial turn screen passed under the hand shell they did to the fullback on your goal line is just like little things like that that the tackle eligible pass it ahead, Carrie Fisher for last touchdown. Let little things like that like that. They do and you just like. Is Not that complicated. When you think about it's not like underneath screen is not that complicated a tackle eligible the Compu- we've seen things like that before but in they just make it look so easy. Thing when you watch good teams, good offense defense like any other just go for football in all sports like when you see great pitching, they just make the game with so easy when you see a great lineup they make. A great player a great shooter these make the game look. So easy mess. The chiefs do they make the game look so easy that you're like am I even watching the same sport when I walked away when I watch other teams because they don't feel like I said. If, you watched again if maybe he wants to cowboys. Okay this looks somewhat similar but again, if you watch like The Eagles Bengals game which wouldn't have advise you to do But if you did the yours, like this is like it doesn't look watching the same sport it doesn't and actually no, it is like everybody looks the saying like the the the helmets and pads and the same rules thing but just like. The the thing that you're seeing on the field is don't they don't seem as easy. They don't see him again not simple because again, football is simple game just like the do things that just like. Make it look so easy and maybe that's Mahomes. This Andy Reid Acme enemy wherever you WANNA credit to the receivers, the running backs off of the line. But when you credit to four that? Easy. Just, impressive and again, that might go undefeated. I'M NOT SAYING WE'RE GONNA win every game. they're gonNa like now do the what was the two thousand, seven Patriots like do them better? Actually win the Super Bowl being undefeated vascular happen like they'll lose a game eventually I would think. We'll see if that that hands out. Buddy. At this point, it's hard to say anyone else besides them as the best team league. To see anyone else beating them on a big stage because that's going to require you to get impeccable the play bad for four quarters. Evening plays bad for three three and a half I got in the Super Bowl wants to get things going as long as it's the time. You have you have the chiefs like they have a chance to win as long as again. The game's not out of which really never is when he's using I. Don't I don't know that off hand. But I don't know the biggest loss careers. May I don't think they've lost by fourteen twenty one point anything like that since he's been a star honestly they've lost games but very rarely getting smoked are they in blown out? Is it just because the things back from home that offense can do to keep pace with other teams? Beating, keeping pace of the Ravens had trouble keeping pace with them. And again, I'm not GONNA use as a referendum on more Jackson unlike dial play doesn't work blah. Blah. Blah. But Aminu has a referendum on the coaching staff because it's clear that whenever things that whenever they get off to a good start there good laid. Then that means they can run the ball can do your offense all those kind of things. But once they get behind for reason, they feel like they can abandon their who they are their identity. And like I said, that is running the ball like in this game obviously they were losing. But I, they end up running about twenty one times. But for. Achieve Raven. Saying that's not that's not a whole lot. They they run more than that generally speaking. Look up their last game. NOMINATED BE The Texans. Seventeen. They ran the ball thirty seven times. Run more when you're winning and things like that. But even against the browns weak one. They ran the ball. they ran the ball three times. Place. Running the ball. In the low twenty that's not bad. That's not that's not their team not who they take their back they ran it no cheese they ran it like I said twenty one time. It's not the right that's not who they are. It's not the offensive identity. I'm like I said as as I think it was point I think it was on on one of the doctors love watching. Day on ESPN they like the the rams like they were down twenty two to the bills, but they still ran their offense because that's who they are. There's no reason for you to get away from that. Even if you're losing like I said, that's the problem you see with so many teams they like all right once get down a score or to score they abandoned will work for them to go get all pass happy and I'm like you're the chiefs like that's not gonNa work for you. I said the Raven's don't have. The consistency at receiver position at this point in time because it's not like this not like every past Moore's off. So you didn't have his greatest day, but it wasn't helped by the receivers. At all I know they dropped a couple touchdowns and like I said, the is not a great group like no receiver had more than two receptions. I will know you Ramon Athens Mark Games at three, and like I said, that was on eighteen at on eight targeting seasoning. Was On eight targets and the Dobbins. Led the team before receptions. They were trying to do different things good passing they weren't able to. Do Drops or an accuracy whatever it is like I said, it is one of those situations where the ravens the they'd been shown how to be like the chiefs have reluctant is not really a specific Oh do this to them Redo that to them defensively, you'll be slow them down. But the repeated the ravens over the last two years. Since, the Mars taken over is that if you can get them down early. You beat them because banning in the wrong. Generally speaking is run the mall things like that but they're they're trying to become a little bit more pass at the mets especially when you don't really have a true number, one of the best receiver is probably their tight end. Mark. Music. Very good. Tight end. But I said I don't have the the threats consisting out that I'll see markey's brown could be a good receiver venture yellows. He has the speed but has nothing at as a receiver that they're showcase a he's that true number one guy just yet. Again I think it could be but he's Like I that that's not their bread and butter are as a team and as an offense myself once they got down. It was it like I said, they were just they abandoned their early Vanden, the Ron and. They struggled because of that that the Mardasson ninety seven passing yards on twenty eight attempts. Mike that's not great. opposite. Again, like I said, they have there were some drops in wasn't all on him? But again. You'll four quarters though the ball almost thirty time two, hundred yards passing in a game. That's not good. No matter who you are especially good if you're an MVP. So like I said I understood some the conversation around the Marlin today like again this. Referendum on him or is dialed Larry Guy. And I wouldn't go that far because again, this shown to be successful do certain degree in the NFL's Heslin a playoff game and things like that Bob it. Again, there's more to when the document does the play of the quarterback But at the same time again, this just another example of how you can beat the Ravens. Mesa, you get them you find a way to get them down early or stop that run or whatever, and I ended become a passing offense and that's not what they wanna do and that's not works, and again, you can see this until proven number one consistent receiver on the outside. This is the housing look. On for against the better teams so I guess that's unfortunate. I think I think he's now Owen three against. The chiefs in his career. Why grabble can no the I forget if the first the first twenty thirteen were the mob patent homes look forget if that was if you was starting at that point I, believe you love up as long as. More of the stories, their own triggers the ratings last three in Latin last three chiefs. In last three years I don't know for more guys can start all those started less to. Save some of the work on just again. Don't be afraid when you get down to to be who you are like I said. Go with Gotcha and go with successful, and that's again that's the running game. That's. Using the more runner nauseam using mixing play action pass and things like that like don't try to be a straight. That's not who you are again maybe eventually, that could be who you become, but has it right now is not the ordinary there's not who they are. Don't don't be afraid to Doug. Well, don't be afraid to stick to that. Even if you go down early said, it seems to be the recipe for them. They get down and like I said, he'd haven't figured how to play from behind yet. They can play with the lead with the best like Vegas up especially the early pilot on quickly because I mean, they can run their whole offense. But again, once they get down, they become a little more hesitant to run run the ball as heavily as they would like, and like I said, you see things where they were the passing game inconsistencies and maybe some of the Moore's inaccuracies different things like that kind of rather we had. Let me of result like we did on Monday lost fourteen. and. It was really it wasn't even that goes honestly. said it felt like it was twenty thirty point Blah but again, the only fourteen also, there's another thing obviously the raven there blitz having team but as as been shown over the last couple years, that's not how you beat homes that you need to find a way to get there more four because you blitz if he sees it. Knows who door to then it's not gonna go well for you plus you blitz and don't get home and he's able to escape as they As you saw like the fate jump has have him on Humphrey, I blitz that your couple of guys and and blitz veiling rushmore but it was kind of off not Cuomo tricky Kinda blitz any like play man behind it. No one was around two to track him down after skip the pocket. So as also get one one of the TC from that's what they did a good job of doing that like when they rushed more from at least from my veins from TV leading late in like try to sack. If that makes sense like again, if you're GONNA try to get the GonNa try to. Contain the data, contain the mar in the sense of like you can't abandon your rushing lanes. You can't let them get outside the pocket. Faster than you can beat you to the corner all those things but if you can kind of keep them contained to where he's running laterally as opposed to running like vertically out of the. Out of the pocket, then you have a better chance to us going to make him like runs to the sideline. That's GonNa make it hard to get down the field vegetables if you abandon your lanes and give him rushing lanes and you can scroll through them. Now you're he's one alone your linebacker, your safety, and he's going to beat those guys nine out of ten times so. He did a good job in there in the way in which they rushed the Martikan contained and not let him break and get outside that often again happens. didn't happen too much like I said about for second place at this point, and that seems pretty evident. But again, we'll see how it plays out over the course of season and speaking of over the course of the season. Touched on in the beginning Kobe was going to be an issue and it's already rearing its ugly head like I said. We three. So talk about that talk about teams affected how potentially affect the schedule, and again, this kind of what I think the Infos plan should be going forward is something that's worth a pop up again because they're not gonna be the first and only teams that have this happen. So discuss all that rap break stay right there. Are you looking for the very best nfl and college football podcast. Then check out the GSM see football podcast get the latest football news both on and off the field from the NFL draft to treats to the rumor mill to the NFL. Combines. They got you covered that's GSM GMC PODCAST DOT COM slash football dash podcast get updates on college rivalries, key insights, and much much more. It's football talk the way you want this show sleeps and breathes football don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visits. Yes MC podcast dot. Com for more INFO. Rebecca. The. NFC. Themselves Saturday after three players and five person five team personnel members positive for survives the NFL announced on Tuesday. The three players start knows starting nose tackle the quonset. Jones long snapper Beau Brinkley and practice tight end Tom. Hudson have all been placed on the reserve cove. Nineteen lists. With no official decision. While no deficient has made yet about the titans game Sunday against the CEO's a natural the NFL wants an intense had two games that game played schedule as source told ESPN's Adam. Schefter one of the Tennessee plans to allow for additional testing concentration would be to move the game. To Monday night source code ESPN. They knew pilot test for titans have been confirmed as testing source told ESPN's Kevin. Seifert those who test positive have been the magic as a Tuesday morning source told US Fans Dan Grazziano. There's not a lot of people everything Obviously is not expected and there will be players and staff during the season which I mean. Again, if you were paying attention, you probably knew that in a row. On the titans citing an abundance of caution issue Stephen Save saying they halted person work on Tuesday. Minnesota Vikings who played The Times Sunday also close their facility indefinitely though the team said there were no positive due Tuesday morning but again, it makes it does make sense for them to shut it down the does play and. Also altered they're getting that they have the most alison the most advanced has have. I. Believe they have some of these rapid tests that can kind of do can predict things ahead of time before you may show symptoms, which may or may not be why the players are dramatic currently, they might just be. Something a lot of people that have Kobe. Matt but again, I think they, they're sub these new like rapid tests in different that Kinda helped predicted as well as like discovery. So like on top of the fact that can. Help you see if you are positive help you see for your positive before. said the potentially show when you end up spreading into others. Like I said so I don't know if that's how it works here. But again as the Tuesday Minnesota, hasn't had politics though again, that'll be something to monitor as we go later into the week see if that keeps up because again. Tuesday that was giving notice on but Wednesday Thursday Friday somebody even as you may be in Saudi psychopath open then again. Indefinitely, which again, why it makes sense as to why they closed facility because he I'm just WANNA be safe. You don't WanNa actually risks spreading it to the rest of your team than to your community and different things like that. So. It makes sense. The League contracts identify forty eight close contacts with with the eight members of the Times. Organization tested positive. Social Old Grazziano Tennessee and rescheduling plans are having Scott, teems sources. Told you spin the influence was saving both the Vikings are working with the League in the NFL PA. Mega officials to evaluate close contacts and ESPN APP shutdown me. So that's really fun via. So. Mike. I was saying. it just makes sense the again you want you want catch us. If you do that you WANNA shut it down make sure you get tested do some the proper conduct anybody that may be exposed me happens bills can get themselves tested or be made aware of the fact. Now. There's an also mindsets and they were the teams that it happened to when they were the ones that took part make sense for them to nap not then again, have practices week at least in the immediate. INOSITOL before the Vikings if they. I don't know at what point they'd be willing or able to. Get back on the practice field or get back facility if they have enough to test the week but. The. The titans is that are gonNA open up again until Saturday or until Saturday which gives them the interesting because. Again, if you aren't supposed to play a game on Sunday, which is again, the animals plan. As this moment, we'll see again if they hold firm on that plan but as this moment, the is going to play the game on on. Sunday. That that is true. how do you do that without really Braxton throughout the week again, obviously, you can do things remotely in virtually as to where he can install the game plan like talk through some things and have your meetings and things like that. But I mean Ozzy I imagine get never been NFL player, but I would imagine would in my high school 'cause you're I, mean pop warner whatever games plsy may have in the game plan or make me WanNa work on the coming week you is out on the field like all right. We can have a new playing solid in our game plan or new. Or new. Protection or new coverage you WANNA try or new Personnel Grouping WanNa try to user utilizing this upcoming matchup makes that those things the iron now during the week as you practice them in wrapped them in and again get if you're get yourself prepared to use them during during the game. But fact doing that especially on Titans Zion things then even allow them sodium Saturday potentially and that's again assumed that aren't more players. That get test positive in the coming days. Like have you picked on play on Sunday? Lettuce me because again if you've handled this and serve the injuries and no preseason in the lack of her offseason, affecting all the injuries early season. Are you think the affect a week if you base it on practice weekend and then get and then have to prepare I mean again, asking time the by me sounded the time off to recuperate things like that. But if you're not prepping it to play on Sunday, how's it going to be right here on Sunday it's a fair question asked so. Again. I don't think they're going to do everything. We can to not postpone due the fact that. Unlike. Other. Sports where would baseball you can do double header you can. Only, playing certain teams are narrow. You can figure out a way to work around the schedule garbage play a doubleheader on this day or like. have. You stay in this in this city for the belongs you can play. This number games things that like you can't do that with football. They. Once a week on all just say the opposite is between Sunday Monday and Thursday, but most of the Times on Sundays. Around, a similar time. Said, you can't do two games in a day you can't do. To gain you can. Obviously could play. Sunday then play Thursday like it's not. You can't do the same or two games in the calendar encounter week or like I said, you can play Monday in place on day the next week those things happen. Not. The nor. But you said does not being a practice for full. We just does lead me a little. Curious about how the they'll be ready to play on. Sunday the even with that, like like I said, they're not gonNA, try to cancel games because there's no real I don't know what their plan would be to try to get them rescheduled. Good. Also, they're going to try to like okay it was pushed back to Monday. Much. I mean a is better than nothing. said. Now that Hers Volta, teams moving forward like again they were. Now steelers are harm because they play again luckily, and we five they play the eagles who are sorry and if that home so they don't have to travel in contact but imagine if you got to like travel instead of traveling. Back, home on Sunday driving home on Monday now said, you're losing a day of preparation for the new team that you were supposed to play all because of like again, someone else's that is not error, but it's something that is out your own control. As I said, it's not it's not as a team that does the titans and the Vikings being inconvenienced to central opponents is we can be inconvenienced maybe their opponents to I mean maybe. The following but again, it's possible. They said if the Vikings ended up having Any positive tests that come whether this week or next week. That effect, the their opponent they play on. Sunday unlike said same thing with titans. steelers. So again, you got to see if you're still do you want to keep an eye on, you're going to prepare as if you have a game, but it's just like if more tests commodities like maybe it's not worth it for us to play this team right now. Going up she just because. Everybody on the team has about the same time. You want a risk exposing your team to win your team as at this moment. Fine. I got no I wouldn't. and. Same thing if I'm. The Vikings No. Like why would I want to? Essentially so the One check with the rankings. BIKING pay the taxes. On the Texans do I. WanNa. Put myself at risk potentially. If if it comes out like on Friday as a player two I, guess it's not going to be a whole team I don't think. If a player to test positive on Friday or Saturday granted they do the same thing in Atlanta's we we're one guy test positive they of like, let it rock. It just Kinda interesting to me. But again, maybe whatever conflict whatever they did determine that he hadn't been around anybody recently enough. Also, listening to me is the fact that Atlanta had a guy tyler thing like Saturday or sometimes we okay. Yeah. Take him off. We'll play the game as normal and like I said the WHO bear just say okay fine with us. There's an issue for me but again. There has not really laid. We're GONNA talk play these Games. Until they can cause I don't know the backup plan. Would be in this instance due to the fact that. The game would be very difficult to do in the NFL. to hold on until they can't. But. intimacy kind of how that goes and what happens there. Also met. Catch the referees to which I believe that. They were doing. yet they said, they think they said, they're refugees they're officiating crew from. That work that game will be tested daily for Cova nineteen this week in out of abundance of caution, not work a game and we'll see that's the funny thing. So like the NFL, the refs. Won't work a game this weekend like his? CLEA. Clear Blake Men's crew. Won't work again. By. The players dislike play a game I finally said it's just it's very Funny what they? Went and how they decided for certain things. Again, if the referees are you know, it's not worth it for you guys apply again like best of move the game to Monday for the titans. Dozen Kinda funny. To me. And also they already had a player. As a wasn't on Kobe nineteen reserve earlier this month as well. So I think they were trying to get back on practice field this week. So that's unfortunate. For them because I was GONNA be a lot harder to do. to the fact that they can be this week. So how you GONNA be able to get him back ready to go? So you will see. As out also along the same bonds like the raiders. Protection situation there due to the fact that I believe it was their waller hut a terrible hell day charity event. For his his foundation that's helping the youngest fight off like addiction or something like that. But again, he had an event and at his event, there was documentary video photos of multiple raiders players. Out there without the mask on. At on. At an indoor event. And it appears that the team may broken some Nevada rules for the coronavirus pandemic as long long with NFL regulation. So after cousy plays out, now is going to see how that how it goes going forward because again. ACID. Test. So they test positive or they have like we'll know. But it wasn't just like one. Day On wall like Derek Carr was there Nathan Peterman was there. their rested, hiding their receivers. Zeta-jones in their cornerback Nevin Lawson. Honestly Waller was there. So. Do they want to wear like these guys were hanging out with guests. Now. Now, obviously I think it was waller he posted. A picture on his Sunday's instagram page in later deleted it of an unmasked car posed with another unmasked guests or masks list guess who had worn his Jersey or one is an auction. Again, the event. Cool. That's all finding. Good. Again, I'm not gonNA ever knock somebody for trying to raise money for charity but at the same time, you have to be smart about especially when you're doing in the NFL I mean. About a period during the pandemic if you're in the NFL. In and you're seeing the different things that are coming out but people testing positive for you. KINDA WANNA make sure that hey, look let's make sure we're not the next team that has has an outbreak or whatever. And now here with here, they are any of this. Team already got fond. Gone for not wearing his mask properly week to the saints. Believed they had. Said they unauthorized personnel. In the locker room after Saints Win and they've already in trouble for not necessarily following the rules and this is another case of them continuing to not follow the rules against the different people. It's not the coach and the personnel or the team is the players the specifically this time. Makes this. This is the issue with this is that you need everyone on the same page. And following the rules until one or two may show in order to make sure excuse me. There's no like outbreak or anything like that within your team and within the community an awesome you don't affect other teams because again. The knowns again, we'll see kind of discipline punishment. There is let me down on the raiders but as this moment. No one's talking about them being postponed but they they were exposed to at this event which you hope not that doesn't happen. But if it does which I mean because not all the running possibility natural risking the who they play this weekend. For the bills. Risking, the bills Or leaving them as possibly being exposed to the virus. Again, you gonNA play again, we're GONNA BE TALKING GONNA be communicating on the people in be tackling each other heating each other beat in close proximity on the field and the nausea after the game I think though there's no jersey exchanges are stuff like that. So they're trying to limit that was at the same time. Due to. I don't know if you WANNA call it. Or whatever you WANNA use to describe these players in nap making sure they were following proper protocols. with his foundation with this event. Brisk hurting other teams are exposing other people whether it's family or friends whoever? just unfortunate. Now through something you didn't happen but again, this is kind of how it happened in the. You are some guys may not proper rules or or again. Now, the first couple, the Mars in the coroner's they will lose more for the the stricter rules are put in place by the Indians there people not following the live right now, the proper protocols going out. Hate our friends and being out past the curfew if things like that. And then I was he'd never got that bad after that in the MLB 'cause people more cautious cost loving conscientious about doing the right thing. Listen what you see stuff like this you're just like. Or do people understand the severity of? And it's fair to question that and this point in time. So like I said, hopefully, nothing happens nothing comes out of that raiders of. But. And you need to be cautioned to be mindful of what you're doing and how you're and whether you're risking your own health or someone else's south. And try to control this like I said, I don't know how the titans players got it but I don't imagine that it was enemy never know but we know for we don't know for fact, but we have improved that the raiders may or may not get it from an event that was thrown indoors that. was allowing people not wear masks that broke not only NFL regulations also their own state regulations and guidelines so. We'll see you kind of disciplined in comes from that, but hopefully it whatever they decided you whatever punching the half day. Show players like, Hey, look you guys gotTa take this series. Because if you want to finish the season, I take a serious. Accident on the bubble they're not like all close off the rest of the world where your environment where you know Jerry speaking everybody doesn't have the virus intestinal time. You're not you have to virus is an in then you can't. Really. There's no to go. On but against just out in public and trying different things, there's a chance to get exposed to it. So you need to be mindful who you around in how you're around them, and again, it just seems like they weren't as careful as they could have been the raiders were. So we'll see what happens with the titans and the Vikings of their games yet pushed back a day or they're able to play it offer for any other and play smoothly or any other positives confidence, and also again keep is on the raiders as well because. They they may not. They match as positive, Wednesday or Thursday because again, the might be too soon. But check back Friday or Sunday or Monday or something like that just to see if anything comes of this. like I said I hope not but you never know so get him. We'll see about all that stuff as the week goes on. As the week goes on by the time, we'll probably before you guys. We'll before you guys probably here before the game but. 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You'll see a lot of like, oh, the clippers favorites, bucks like the sixers Blah Blah, blah whoever but. It was pretty evident. By Christmas that don't even think they typically didn't they lose it a clippers on Christmas I could be wrong about that but as. Evidence or obvious to me. Earlier in that season. That the Lakers were the best team the West. And everybody was like, Oh, how the AD I know myself? I was like, Oh, we'll do fit and how eighty and the wrong get together and how they work out but again, generally speaking I feel like. a wing player in a big even though a US spell out on the wing I'm easier to kind of work out in ton of get the country ongoing. Earlier than it would be like to again the clippers for example, they had some things they had mostly eighteen at the added. George and. But forward was coming off shoulder surgeries, play that much season Maguire's with the load management. On different injuries and things they have to deal with the season where they never really weird. We get that rhythm going. And that mcguirk chemistry and finding the camps just because they didn't play a whole lot of games collective unit. Also trade for our like Marcus Morris Agencies. In different things, they added some guys who have the year. But you never able to get that chemistry working together. And those that on team where like one? That's a bunch of wing dominant players with like I said why PG Lou will. MANTRAS A smaller guy I mean not a about a big man but. They his main things being pick picking rolls despite of shooters he's a good lake or a post up player. A lot of his point scored and pick and roll between him in Louisville. That was their brandon bug last couple of years. This is a different kind of dynamic by he said, everybody and that's fair Laker fans savings now see To Wander these when you had all these guys and you're adding in like I said you, you brought in a avery Bradley brought him Rondo evolved in jail you bought into white. Casey P will oblige us was brought back deigning green a different guys you'd like. All right. Let's see his works and obviously very early on that. It was gonNA work out fine and our here. flipside the heat for example, they were team a lot of people. When we went they're people like, oh I wasn't one of them got wasn't sure because he had the ploughs I didn't know that. Don Robinson. Was the best year in the NBA was aware of that a new band was good. We hadn't taken the next step took the next step. Thought would be good in thinking will be scored thirty seven in Congress. Finals game. In his rookie season level. Good. Did Not know about Kendra none Obviously I knew. On new, they had a drive some other guys they'd be able to add Jae crowder and eighty during the season, and that helped them out a great deal on they were important pieces, their team, ozzy gay crowded shaky shooting from three the but for overall, he's been very good for them. Same League and Ozzy was great in that game sets against the Celtics. Me Though this was a team that. I mean people thought could get this far against everyone was like, Oh, the Jim Jimbo there more for the sunshine money when I know he I mean again outside maybe they thought they he at the Soi. Generally speaking most eligible didn't. But again, that's not what matters. Is a matter with outside world. Doesn't matter what people on twitter or analysts are. podcast whoever doesn't matter what they think it just matters what the players can halley play on the court, and now that he showed themselves to be one of the better teams in the East on the court during the season and announced bubble started especially the playoffs started they showed that. I mean, they've they've been the best team in the USA conference in the playoffs in my opinion I said they they want a freshman series in four games run the second series in five games this one six but again, they they've. They've never really isn't really been known as WHO's ever been in doubt. You would say. None of them like, oh, it's uncertainty like, oh, they got to come back to do like a three one they've never even really is they never down like to one anything like that never happened they were always in control of all their series. That that's why I got to the point on the flip line. Same thing with the Lakers the Lakers haven't had a series go past five games yet almost this one goes back five it was talking about that. A little bit when I remember official prediction but. On paper. This is very interesting in a very good match upon is going to be a very defensive heavy match because both of these teams are very, very good defensive teams. Especially in the half court. Said, the Lakers Kaufman's is a little spotty at times. Because again, they don't have consistent June the APP shooters but if like again, Casey P shooting lower dating region welcome that ozzy opened things up crucial were coups rate Rondo. Whoever's hitting threes I got open things up on offense but like. I mean I was on Casey none of those guys manakin system in the playoffs from shooting Ozzy Rhonda's been consistent because the platform is the thing but. Again and shooting the ball. In the House has not really been. They haven't really been great from distance. Makes it it's going to matter when you're going up against. Proudly the best shooting team, the League, and like I said, that's the thing when she deems is that like they could have series where like you saw twenty, what was it twenty thirteen with the Spurs obviously. As. We know this has lost. Danny Green. This real quick Rondos, the highest percentage on the team. With forty four percent outside Quinn Cook lose you can play but a guy that played a decent Mansi shooting forty, four percent from three Moore's shooting for six forty, three point six case speech shooting forty two, and like the next highest guy that gets a lot of minutes for them is Davis six. That's again that's talking about like. Was Not shooting that well during the playoffs that is. well, like our Dana, all shooting about average in crusoe coups are worse than that. but he kind of see who has the a good series. That's really what it comes down to is like a good series don't need. It didn't like. You. Don't need somebody to play well, for eighty two game you play welfare potentially seven. visit as we saw a website Dane, green where he handles record number of through things like the first five games now, she didn't end up mattering. That could be Dunkin Robinson that could be tower hero that can be JAE crowder. like I said that could be Casey. P. That could be. Rhonda could like more sore at Caruso or WHO's. A dating rain again like I said. That's interesting thing to see because if you look at just on a star Star, match guys Lakers have. Argued to the best players in the world. Like that's going to be tough to be for most teams, things that generally speaking you take the best player in the in the in the series and the Lakers. In many people's eyes and I would agree with this had the to have the two best players on the series. The dare of distance between two and three who is probably and again it depends WANNA put at thirty because it Jim Butler is at Bam. Mexican, you could argue between those who they're. Has Been, dragging sometimes who's there? WHO's the heat's best player? But regardless the gap between those two Davidson abroad and the next heat Gaza that you could argue late had the next four. If you. WanNa go Bam Jimmy Butler drug itch, and like said Hero. Like you could argue, maybe those guys better than like Casey p Rondo who believes these the first three Are Definitely. Better. Am I Like I said the gap between knows like those guys unlike. Rondo Casey P is smaller than the gap between whoever their best players Bam or Jimmy. Or I guess derogatory him in there as well. Anything Davison Lebron James like that gap is pretty massive when I said that might be enough. Like I said not time because the there'd be many series you would argue Lebron been the best player. Coming his ears outside of maybe twenty seventeen that first year like it was clear Katie like the difference between the two teams that Katie was on the wards analogous. Lebron James was gives clear that he got up late and then two, thousand eighteen even though again, the team's worst I mean had the fifty point game brandon in that. In that negative one and I'll say that when that game have George Hill the Free Throw Award Jackson remembers how Massamba left on the clock or what the score is a big differently I'm not saying they win. But at least again that US goes six or seven opposed I, think five if that. Is the the probably goes a little bit differently. If they win that first game especially with the performance, the Brian put up in that first game. Look back on outside twenty, two, twenty, two, thousand, seven, getting. He was young at the time but in twenty eleven to. Twenty eighteen you could argue that the bronze been the best player in almost every one of those series. and. That timeframe us what three in five. hadn't the best player. Doesn't always matter. It's like sometimes though sometimes it doesn't that doesn't that doesn't mean I hope. They have the Brown ad like that means Owen. Now, not that simple like I said if if they heat can do a good job defensively especially in half moon, don't allow them to get on transition. Don't don't turn the ball over lot. And at an academic threes, it'll make it harder. Lakers. Like I said, no, I don't think they're going to win in Dave's number on a great place is not going to be easy bouncing spokesman allow them to dominate because they haven't done any series as the best players. On the on. Pacers. The best players on the bus. And the bus she was on the Celtics I'm not been the reason for for. Not, been the reason obviously why they want didn't win like said, they were able to to go jogging as TJ warned who was amazing in the bubble up until that point. And a great job. Now. He got hurt eventually but then they will do did go down Chris Middleton and keep things under wraps and then again you did a good job and some of it was lack of restaurants but did a very good job as tatum was the celtics best player. Now. See like in also, they're very good job on Campbell. Marcus smart has Moma Jaylen Brown moments different gotcha moments but. They didn't allow their best players to beat them like I said I don't think they're gonna Let. US Not the right word because he has a great out, they're going to make it easy for the Brian Eighty to beat them. That might not matter. Now that they make it easy for them to beat them. And I think another thing that helps the heat in a little bit is that the fact that two of the three teams at the then the thirteen of the rockets who just didn't have have any minority Anthony Davis two or three team that they played in the bubble in the playoffs having a defensive the blazers argue defensive team and the nuggets aren't defense team consistently. They'd had their moments but like the Blazer deathly bad because team the rockets were good in that first round series but it was mainly because the thunder did not have the shooting ability to to keep them on. or the or the big inside to exploit their their small ball line because obviously as my in Tony pointed out, the the Lakers did go small it play Javale played the white that much in that series but they had any David the Senate when they went small. Or mortgage market more like that. As a difference mostly they like the heat are very, very sound defensive team again, frozen things at them. With their zone, the different kind of ways they match the within can defend them. And I guess that'd be like how the liquor try to counteract do like they do with the nuggets will they go big? And try to utilize the white and. About but utilize the white in jail against Bam. Bam San. I imagine maybe it's like. There were they have him gardening Davis unlike. Jimmy Butler guard, the white or detail. I don't know how they're going to work and I was again after the Bronx but obviously, the Lakers go small. That helps up heat because then they can try to have Bam defendant. There's no miles from work, but it can try. them, small plays into the hands. So they don't really back a big is who Kelly Olympic. unless Meyers, Leonard is going to get a lot of run which I would imagine he's not in the series Who's going to them if they make decide to go big And that could, and again as you're not going to play the game through the white into jail but if if If the Lakers star the white. You'RE GONNA have to have Bam guard him, and then also you're going to have him guard. Bam. And he could maybe get like he did we all get him and foul trouble and again that that though the whole wrench into how the heat he won't be often so again. The day you him. In many cases and up to kind of like the the nuggets utilize them, you utilize Yokich I mean as a point where they can run offense. Do Him Hannibal L. Topic decisions with passing the ball and shooting three point shooter that Yoga can be but. Yet the the style of play is similar. With with Halle defend. Yoga Gym. Bam As abandoned flooding, can do two things the occasional but fast and quicker and things like that. But again, in terms of having defending the kind of offense, they have that with nuts. But after going to three point, you definitely instead of having Gary Harris or Gabby. That we having done Robinson empower hero in drug each and. I'm Jay crowder graphic that at a little bit better. Three point shooters consistently. Shoot the ball. So I guess the basket a matter who's like I said they win. Gary Harris Rosemary providing a lot out. Jamie has moments and And so did Mills Adam might doing different guys but you? Are. The best viewpoint shooting team. In the League. At, the pet Steve Marsh shooter in a liaison around since that as bit different types of ways in which they utilize him on the offense to get that through a little bit different. US going to shoot a lot of weird chocolate hand off and doing different things. Hero same drivers again and say macron or they're gonNA try to dry pantry kick kick out do different things. where again the nuggets is a lot more to main game. With Murray and Yokich in the candidates did everything based around that like I said, that's not GonNa be the style again, you're gonNA see picks roles everything's were dragged and Bam and Jimmy Butler and Bam things like that. But again, they're gonNA drive not always gonNA drive score with murder was more driving try to score as well as again he would kick it out from time to time but then again you have gary hair shooting as opposed Deng around him that's a big difference so He and. Ben. How Defend Anthony Davis and defend Dave so that they go big you can't have Bam on him present. Again you're in, you've been on the board by. or even be download by the white. If you WANNA give him some touches down there and also how defend Lebron. and. Also, again, making sure that others don't meet you. Like. I. Said if Lebron Indiana that's one thing. But if you let Casey P shoot like fifty percent from the from three, this series or like. Like. Rondo contains a shoot well or Morris or like you let Kuzina going somebody like that. But that's where he could fall into trouble and again they haven't had that happen consistently throughout the playoffs but that's just what I'd be worried about getting a lot of tension on Lebron. phosa lives Anthony Anthony Davis. How do you stop the other guys? Your how do you make sure the other guys don't beach because? During an opportunity to get shots, they're gonNA. Chances Need to make sure that you don't allow them to capitalize on lachance. Also, you don't turn the ball over and make the Lakers beach in half court. As their offense can be shaky at times and the heat's half or is Saad whether it's zone man. So you don't WanNa. Get and just let Lebron run the Braga going downhill. Let them find the Earth Oh hell passes ad found the shooter's in transition things that you don't want that to happen. Ends is said same thing if you're the you don't the heat entrees, we get mashed up wrong. Now you now you got a big guy on hero or dunking trying to run a mall screen the different things that you don't WanNa. You don't WanNa turn follow too much against the heat and their defense. So that you can. So they can get out and run going transitioning get get three point are easy. Your three point opportunities they wouldn't have court so. That'll be inching seeing kind of how that plays out, but for prediction was at this point. I probably have to go lakers. In anonymously five, I'll give the two game because they're shooting. So I'll give six. Lakers in six. Bikes I just think at the end of the day, having the best players in having to be the two best players by significant margin is going to matter. I don't know exactly Davis again you're entitled Bam maybe it'll work that might work. But again, if they if they decide to go big and don't just allow you to go small, go don't try to play the game by going small. WHO's GonNa Bama's in the in the traditional center. And like it's like the biggest Kelly Olympic technically I guess. Beyond the comes off their bench. Like I don't like I don't know if he's Able to financially Davis I don't know what their plan is alleged Jae crowder again but eighty or you're gonNA put make again the JAE crowder by those guys, you thought Lebron. That makes sense but like who you have already anthony. Davis. It may not out there because the BAM's out there already make sense if they play Jabil one now it'd be played the white. After who's going to have the guard the way? Things is going to be interesting that that chessmaster. Against Spos- on the good is a as one of the better coaches in the league. So again, I, don't think he's GonNa have troubled scheming defense against Lebron gets idea. Thank. The outplays, but like I said. I just think. Jerry speaking ham the best players in the series matter. Will matter in this case because again, League have a very solid teams in the League is are very solid team in there and this like their others are better than the Lakers others in my opinion. But it's just that I don't it'd be would make up the GATT like Jim Bola. Bamadoro to make up the gap on Dave's on the Bron James then get AFLAC sixty points this series and Bam Jimmy Butler. Average about forty. Like Wolf the heroes, the dragages crowded the the Dunkin robinsons of the will they be able to make up that gap? And over couple of games. Yes. I. They could for over seven game series I duNNo. Leisa. We'll see what happens he'd vows headed Gracie in of the virus had a great season gotten this far but. I'm not a betting man so it doesn't matter with Robin put money on the team. I'm going to go the Lakers and like I. said, I think the Lakers in six right now. But again, neither outcome surprise me because I think as much as they try to play it down. Matters to both frank as again the Lakers I think Lebron wants to beat Pat Riley yet. You Know Aleksey not out there on the court is out there coaching but again, I'll see some of the attention they had upon him leaving. has kind of it in. We'll see how much incentive he has after twenty sixteen files. So I think though some motivation there. But in the face get face that team gets face that organization that that may or may not have thought you would be you wouldn't be as good without them. The same thing was stolen Pat Riley. They're gonNA WANNA show Lebron like look. Like, we told you. Like. If you leave, you're not going to be accessible without us and we know you know you well, Myrna show you how you can be you especially after notaries they had problem the probably the best O'Brien in my opinion, the Hitler lebrons Bessbrook. Is The physical Physical Performance unlike his athleticism and things like that now this Lebron. More re rolling can do different things in different ways but anka terms like peak people brought a think probably twenty twenty thirteen season was was people. Physically so again, Anthony. The SPO and Rago have incentive to want to be Lebron even though getting out on cavs or event that is on the Lakers. But I think they're not GONNA WANNA lose to Lebron either again, they won't say that day it'll. It'll be a big back and forth me things like that. But again on the inside, they gonna WanNa try to win in that regard I. Think at this point, I? Feel the Lakers until. Some wrong because they haven't had the series, go pass spot beams so far. They've been dominant the dom in their own right but again, they were tested. And maybe that help them in this series because again the Lakers had we been all that tested. The, they've. They've they won four straight in the first round. They won they won. They. Won The other game, those areas and five like they have. No zero s five and notice, and most of them have always been the most competitive teams either. So we'll see how plays out as this moment only in sex should be a fun series it should be interesting legs on the Duarte Mississippi our plays out but. I GONNA. Pick a team I would probably go lakers. So Seattle played that and it's being of La the Clippers Apparently, looking for new coach I said, they should limit for new coach. I thought they'd be doing it sooner than they did, but apparently they reach that point. So we're Scott that kind of how they got there and kind of what the next up for them and for the coaches. So we discuss all that were former gotree gives us should say so it was all that right after the break Sarah. Are you looking for help for your fantasy football team check out the GSM. See Fantasy football podcast get today's best advice who to start who to sit. Even who you should draft from sleeper pick red hot LINEUPS. They got it all covered for you. That's GS MC podcast, dot com backslash fantasy, dash football, dash podcast cover traditional the dynasty pr even I DP when you need fantasy help, there's just one show to up don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit gs MC podcast dot, com for more INFO. Birds Dot. Out. As? La. Clippers coach after disappointing into the season, which again I said should have happened I figured who's going to happen though. I was uncertain a little bit after said ozone give. Birth back and I was like really I don't know especially again. Now. Because I think Dr Terrible coach or is the Baptism Bala Bala none of those things. But. As. A coach. When you lose three leads in your career to with this franchise. In especially in a season where you at least spokesman at the conference finals confused for the Lakers. It was an NBA finals. Okay. We're GONNA live at. That's one thing. But they were supposed to get to the conference finals in my opinion out today may not consider that out to the Euro George said Jamshedpur bus by Blah But again, make the conference finals. Mike when you add Paul Jordan, why doesn't expect? Like in the Lakers in that Anthony Davis stood to lose in the second round. They added anti-deficit thought that they don't give them the best chance to compete for championship and obviously they were right and again, maybe they could've still competed for tampered with Lonzo and Brandon Ingram and. They're pick you then the trade the pick to like whoever they're. Not I think then the. More considering needed and like maybe like their draft pick in my heart and when other stuff they could have. Used that. I mean, they're so what made the? Again I'm Brandon Ingram played at the level. He played this year. With the Lakers enough Balkans I think they would have been decent shape but ozzy again. In the absolve defense. And offensively is better than. Whatever Lonzo and grinding dot or else could have given them in my personal. BUYS A. You make the additions to compete for the finals. You'll make additions to get knocked out in first or second round. That's why win. Then again, I don't think when gacy traded for Paul George based on to get the default but that was just like right. This is going to get over the Hump to get back into contention for a conference a Western. Conference on like that now. And didn't work and. That the team was able to what was broken up. In Part Because I say JOAQUIN COLLINS THEY WANNA come to La but they did not get Mega to the conference finals and they blew through late in the process. So. It's hard. Justifiably somebody gotta take the fall for that. Wonder Who's going to be? Semi diggle Newton's easier to give it a coach needs to give her the player especially when the players only they're guaranteed for more year. Like Doc rivers could have been there for much longer than that but. the coach not because the players only guaranteed to be there one more year against the out DOPP down different things. He was he was he stepped down as coach in what Jamesy bomber called a mutual decision team foul walshaw reputations the season as I said. DOC has been terrific head coach for the clippers in an incredible ambassador pillar shrink during Tumultuous Times the Donaldson Situation and obviously the also race conversation that was happening in the bubble Bomber sentenced they've no Monday he went heck a lot of games different foundation. Excuse me for this franchise rivers had had left on his current contract sources told ESPN's As as we said, they lost They, will lead in the semifinals, the Denver Nuggets Turning Lease, Sixteen Nineteen, twelve points as a franchise at the Frank Has West Calms Farmer Drought Reached Fifty Games where is has been the coach. In five six. Five of the clippers six years But again, also they have made confidence yet and at some point. Maybe he's not the get you over the Hump but statement everything had done or read everything they giving him and supporting him things like that like I said. Informed didn't have to be made during the time. is one sense in rivers. Seven seasons at the helm the clippers went three, hundred, fifty, six in two, hundred, eight, winning percentage of sixty, three percent. On, the radio season, obviously the fifth best record in the NBA and the best by any team without conference finals. Appearance Rivers went three eight central series Clinton Games with the clippers tied for the worst mark by singer coach with one team. And his nine hundred and forty three career wins is eleventh all combat head coach. So with Clipper job now open that now leaves Philly Indiana. Oklahoma City. New. Orleans Houston 'em. Clippers has the current job openings. New York. Knicks Brooklyn in Chicago have already feel they're big sees in the off season. Rivers. Departure Men's league is also only four black coaches, Lloyd, Pearson Atlanta, Jamie Vic Steph, and Cleveland. To Cleveland. Monty Williams in Phoenix in wing. CASE IN DETROIT. Rose is a third black OSHII step down or be fired this offseason joined by name Mellon Alvin gentry though in fairness to all those guys I, think mills, the ones a little shaky boundary was warranted in my opinion but he'd been there for a while Henry done a lot and again, you can't lose the way they lost. You Lose Lakers on the conference finals in a tough six seven game series he's not getting far. Would you blow the one lead in a semi files nuggets? Any year that. Maybe they didn't think tamper boss but. Mostly. Outsiders was champ boss. Yeah. that might happen especially again. It's like they blew it. They doubly blow because in each game they were double digits are important, and then they lost those games consecutively to a serious like I said, it wasn't just like they blew a three one lead. Like think about like when the When the Laker not naming Lakers when the. Okay see or when the war is blueberry leads in two thousand, sixteen like it wasn't the same way like in game five, the the warriors dominated that one game sex the thunder did have lead but then you had a historic reforms from Clay Emma game seven, they I mean. Knew they weren't going to lose that game in Oracle and then Um in the finals it took. Spent. For Game Five but Korean, the Broncos put up by forty one I think was the game five in I. Think they had another another great perform six and then obviously the rival Dublin game seven curry hit the game show it was close Save you blew the lead but it wasn't like it wasn't like you had w just like kind of how I'm surprised adopt because in in Portland they got swept. Not. Supposed to laughable season. In Wisconsin finals. Injuries in different things that helped play the part they were up big in every one of those games and Got Sweat said that woulda been in my opinion, a fireball offense had reached out for the first time in a long time. and I was like Oh was beer known expect to be here by the blackout of things. You argue that that was fireable when you're you can't get swept when you up double digits in every game especially like and most of those are in the second half to like that was a disaster. But. Like I said, does scientists in came easy. Foresee bomber apparently talked with within the organization talked even the some of the players but it sounds like even though initially they were like, you know we're not going to fire upper is they decide like email what? Year. Maybe it's time to move on. Said apparently like he had conversations with involve George and apparently he didn't allow those sway his decision on again. That's the thing when you're wearing, you're the boss do you make decisions what everybody else thinks or says? That's fair and his Alabama didn't he had made his mind up like especially after seeing the Lakers probably get to the e you know what? An. Argument. that. If in the days leading up to this, he tried the guys and they gave whatever arguments gave and he was like, you know there's not compelling enough. Amazon let them go. It'll be interesting to see who they pick due to the fact that like how you GonNa pick imagine maybe. Maybe. It might be an internal the promote sandcastle or like Thailand or somebody like that. Again, I don't know. But initially because anybody thinks that job. The way. It looks next season supposed to like two three seasons from now could be very different. As A. Only in the contractor for this next year well, again the. Things but the only guaranteed to be there next year. Go. Hardly Awry and choirs is leave and then maybe Georgia's WanNa stay maybe he does maybe doesn't will see. Lakes that happens. Then that's the team signed up to coach. It also doesn't involve whether you bring. Back doesn't whatever you Marcus Morris like there's other citizen that needs to be made there. That I think will kind of. Scare some coach obviously, it's probably the best job on the market. I would argue. Glad you're in La your staples. You got a owner that is willing to spend money You've got a guy who wants to win. So he cares about that more than cares about like ticket sales or or Jersey sales or things like that And also get coach Paul George, which is not a bad gig. But at the same time goes on for years things go right. So he said that's scary for the coach was like I don't think gonNA look like in two years or three years and end you kind of mortgage a future on augured being impoverishing quad being the guys that can lead you guys, tunein. com compounds but to NBA finals. And as they don't have any real, they don't have no picks for the next. Six years something like that. They said, they're the best young player. Is Landry Shamet Zoo bots. Maybe townsman thing that's the Guy Ford state who has a trade away shy So again, if if something goes awry, even like I said maybe Paul. George stays, but if quietly us. Than what you left with again, you've got the will. have. mantras might not yet sham Zubov like I said, I said it's very different team the cupboards very bare and try to figure out how to replacing. aren't the Lakers. I'll they contract guys and they have two guys on the able to get crystal. They were able to get. If they'd be able to track out his intrigues different things. Buzzes Nugget Region Hospital teams like teams aren't dislike. Just like, yes given to the clippers. Obese up until recently, the hadn't really been the case. Maybe, it'll change but I think a lot of that had to do that respect came with doc. See whether you think is a good or bad coach. I think he like most of two thousand and eight Celtics team has gone a lot of mileage out of that one championship Ozzy Ray Allen as gone in one nauseam ship. So he's a little bit different and we'll see what happened to Rondo by Paul Pierce he's on TV. On ESPN taught being able to talk and say things like his Arizona League, in these guys are scared of the Bra now even though Lebron beat up on him basically the moment he left to go to Miami They allowed to say things in dock at the mileage he did. With the Clippers due to his championship with the Celtics any and that was the first year their big three again, never they they had. They struggled post at. They never wanted attempts that they've won that one championship I again is more than nothing but I don't think they traded for guys to win one championship. They made it back to another finals but I'll say loss Lakers not one. After that they Have trying to get back to that get back over that Hump and. Leslie to be a part of the rebuild So there's that. Be Like I said, he got he got lower mileage leeway and also leading them through downs downs. Darn thing helped get him some the module with the organization. But as a coach. rigidity in his rotations on his. Lack of being able to adapt different things as has hurt him in the playoffs as we've seen like I said, he's been very bad for the record in series clinching games has been very bad all the series go longer than they should live forever reason they can't seem to close teams out doesn't matter what are using Orlando was in Boston whether he was in. La Even. Boston team ethic they want to game seven twice differentiates not there was some dominant team they wanNA champion. Like a dominant force. Blew through the NBA that first year. I guess just that it's it's been tough. For the to get to this level, but again you is like is getting to the second round. Good enough. Quad. Therefore, you didn't bring Hawaiian dare to get the second round finals for the first time to get to the finals eventually. Going to be able to do that. You have to. To. Get in like I said, maybe get operators wasn't coaching that home. They've gotTA, figure out WHO THEY GONNA go with from there. Again, options out there aren't leg the greatest if you're looking for a change of quality head coaches unless again you're going after pilot. In Which? Has Been talked about the sixers job and some other jobs. But? Again he's going to have the respect you would think of the players again would depend 'cause I know there there there may be doc lewd lost lack of room if that's true. Then how so you gotTa, let him go could you can't get lose locker room but she was going to be running back with a similar team slammed go better but maybe they'll have more respect for tyler or some level circle Thailand Stale as opposed to bring in a brand new fresh off the street. Even, a Volvo when he went to the Lakers had success in, he'd face the Brown before. So the heads respect sat helped us he never championship early now the head coach, I don't know if he won as an assistant or things like that but. As a head coach would he had a good track record? So that helped his case I lou maybe could be that guy if you want to sell maybe maybe not we'll see. like I said, they gotta figure something out loud teams are already interviewing guys beginning guys, things like that. So you're kind of a little bit behind the eight ball when it comes to that. But like I said, you may have the most attractive job on the market. So that should help your case listen again unless you just want to promote Lou and that should be pretty simple does like I. I know you're talking about going in Philly like Nah come over just stay in La. Look, we'll give you the keys. Doesn't want to maybe he wants the keys to Simmons enemy. We'll see how kind of have plays out, but I would hope he didn't firecrackers unless you had a guy in mind one to replace him donahue that got beat but I you can't fire him without a plan in place I would think especially this late in the game were already being interviewing teams already picking up their head coaches. You want to have a plan reading like as as good or bad as I think is coach at least he's has a proven track record for being successful in winning games getting to the postseason like in the next alley bringing may or may not have that. So we'll have to see how that plays out from dockers perspective. The. Dow available. I don't imagine he'll go without a job. I don't want to say I don't want to say that because again, the lead the way he did. Could be an issue but if he does if he does have a job or does one job. Doesn't mind coaching young guys. I would imagine the Pelican Jari most enticing. At least to me. In a beat out there but I don't really know stocks down again, figure out how to use those guys You Got Houston. If you want to James Harden Ross which like kin and also getting up seven situation with the Lakers clippers were. They more diffuser for Russell Westbrook, and that might not be the best decision. So. There's that. Going be okay. So you could been in Boston, he's been in Orlando has been. BEEN IN LA so like. Bigger cities bigger marcus absolutely not the biggest market. But yet after you've got the Boston L. A. Like they'll the big market when it comes to sports like okay sees a good franchise organization is this going to be stable, but it's not the type of market that he's used to being in. Buzz in. New Orleans. In a small market team but they have some pieces there would like with Zahn and Lonzo when. Brandon Ingram in Jackson. Hey. Whoever they pick draft. Let's that they have some pieces. There was an art we could. We could could build something for the future, and again, if he doesn't mind doing that again fee just wants to get right back to Jansher contending right then you go the sixers or the. Or the. Or the Houston Houston rocks I don't think like the patients are going to be there I don't think. I don't think thundering get there. That's out there about the inquiry bills can happen. Not. Who else is available I'm trying to think what will the other Guy Knows. INDIANA. Indiana Houston sixers Okay See Philly New Orleans and. Can't go back the. See like I said, if you want one of the jobs that are available, I think new ones the best one for you. If you don't mind coaching young guys and again, you'll have a coach that has more respect. Our has should have their respect as a coach has experienced has a proven track record as a winner. And we'll get Alvin in competitive. Every year would I think could mattering should matter where mass ball in the biggest thing but you want to get people in into basketball and that could be the. Nothing that works and again I don't know how it worked with young guys who really been with a young team at least recently. So that mentioned dynamic Avi doesn't mind that or maybe just say so you're off I don't know We'll see how it plays out because if you want the job of the New Orleans, the best for him. At least again, giving me options. Personally getting team that could get back to contending level sooner rather than later claimed the other places unless 'cause I I don't think he's the guy from being Simmons and I don't know if he wants to go tartan and Westbrook because that's. A bit much. I. Doubt Bail one take but again, we'll see what he wants good wise again unless they're going to promote dilu- or sample sal I don't know where they're gonNa go to get their coach go again you're not hiring like nate McMillan are Alvin gentry year like Like phys Dale or like. Mark. Jackson Jeff Van Gundy standing on. Those guys. Are Worth firing back over bugs a title yes. The other James Pedigree as have the respect to purchase hadn't talked about jobs recently and I think he could. This could be break if they decided to give it to him. So we'll how that plays out but again, doc in fire not surprising to me. Should been surprising. Any of you guys something coming eventually and now so we'll see where the clippers go from. Here After next record comeback here do one more basketball topic and. Davis. I'm obviously we said the files again ready to start on Wednesday. And if he wins this championship one, where does that put him? In. The Pantheon of players in the league currently. Because I have an idea and but also wears it put him among the Pantheon of power forwards all the time. There was a debate. Like it was during the conference finals about like Oh. See Above durkee above K Jeez above Tim Duncan. Guy Like that and I'm like. Again. Well, one guy clear anywhere near his category not even close. He's GonNa have to win a lot more championships to get into that. But some of the other names I'm like you know what one might put him on that conversation. So we'll talk about that raptor break. So stay right there. Are you looking to get your college football fixed looking to get the latest news on your favorite schools? 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Personally think. The case we mean that he's not five without championship. LAKER team Sunday night. He's the best player on the Lakers, and that includes the Bron James So. If. In many cases I'm union people will talk Luanda MP case, but some the argument guests that was fact that Anthony Davis. Hits statistical categories. It was a happy argues the most valuable player when he was might be the best player on his own team. Again, I was Lu-. Lebron means more till in my opinion I say that because Anthony Davis does me on to the Lakers or they didn't have anything Davis they don't get to the finals I. Don't think. man you could argue that but again, him being the match up nightmare that he is and being able to do so many different things only offensive and defensive end makes things easier for the broncos at this stage in his career. Said this and other. People have already discussed. Is this the best? He's ever had. An. At this point in time in my opinion, the house because what accomplished and the things he's done different things like that. But. Ozzy Kyrie's up there as well. But in terms of just pure talent. Dave's is probably the best. Teammates. Mapping at least again, you're welcome to argue that. But in my opinion, I think just on a talent perspective again is is aided by six time can shoot us everything Chris Bosh was. Like. Better. no-fence posh Megan I wanted I didn't mean disrespecting but he's like what Chris Bosh was for the except like. The. Advanced later like update version. Guys you know like the. IPHONE, you get like the Iowa's updates like every update as little more than more legs a little bit nicer looking more smooth her. Like works more smoothly like I said to have different features different things I makes a little bit better so as it. Happens as you continue to update. Did than like Chris. Bosh is like the one point now while it gave was like two, maybe three four now. Comparatively speaking late again, he's better score better defender Rebounder I'm shooter I can't said the brought me everyday Point been shaky because of his career. For his career, he's only A. is only Thir- at thirty one percent three point shooter. This is the best year saying Miss Year Dipak third bakeries he's had shooting the ball. Early in his career. Shooting that well, though again, he didn't shooting threes until about Twenty fifteen, twenty, sixteen. Where he's already at least one eight attempts before then it was like point one and point two. So this is the the most empty shot in a year. He's on the season in three point five, but he averaged thirty three percent on those. In but in the play offs. Doing a little bit better shooting thirty, six percent almost thirty, seven percent on two point seven times in vows his averaging almost twenty nine points. Nine rebounds. Three point six assists one point two steals one point two blocks OSCE, some that's made by the detail and the white out there helping him a shooting. To descend from the field I said thirty six percent from three and each. So again, offset, he improved on a shot from race in the postseason again, that might be the bubble. Maybe fans everyone got Be just like you argue, argues the best team Lebron's ever had at this moment and the annual in. Their first year together they don't they don't have the chemistry or the friendship. Or relationship that Hindi Wade had even pre going to Miami though KUWATA. Developed until a lousy eroded and things like that. Like I said in the in the League, I think the demarcation you could argue them you make you can make. That he's a top five player like I said, it would like because in my opinion, the top three in any order depend on independence season. Probably Lebron if I were GonNa, our Lebron Katie staff. But I, I could put Katie above Lebron Laurent little bit older. Now see staff had the good years but again, Katie's body work. Over the course of his diet grousing not just. Over the course of the last five seasons. Is better than Steph Steph, gray shooter bolt on. SMS One of the Best Point Guard of all time. but again, I think Katie's been or was the best player. The segments excuse me in the League for like. Eight straight. Years. You would argue again, McCartan gum stuff that some of the. Say eight straight but a pilot ballot like four or five street. He had a by think, he what he have three second-place MVP votes. Because was green light from like twenty, ten, twenty eleventh like twenty years up until I guess Twenty Fifteen, twenty, six season he was criticizing best player and once he doing the warriors, he went back to the second best player in the League. Or at worst third. Year. Then where you rank Lebron. Dossier the veteran fifteen, twenty, six, Steph from stuff was crazy. But again, that's not the point. The point is that like those have been over the last ten years for your best players and also you have quietly married you have Anthony Davis you have jaanus now back VP's and defense per year seemed like that. was doesn't have those. You didn't have those personal accolades that down championships quietness. But. If he gets one. Now. I. Think Its liquefies him as a tough I and I think you can honestly especially especially, if he wins like P rude. If he doesn't again, if he was plays well in the five, he doesn't like completely no show. Based on Johnson's lack of success in the playoffs in his in the fact, the kind of come out in are exploited in highlighted in the playoffs while Anthony Davis not have that same issue because of all of it I think even though yours will be the back MVP. I thank you Jimmy put him in that number five. Again with Steph Katie Lebron. The key you slide him at number five in other there's Jimmy arguments there again is gonna be hard. BACK PEAS BABA LIKE Just, as he went back to back I'm not, he's best player in the world. You've been best buy Riga last two years I point Bang theory but like since same thing with Steph when Steph went back to back I don't think he was the best player in the world maybe again, the second season. But even this year I think the best player in the world, he would just MVP again two different things in my own personal belief. Is that he was their finals. Yes. I rain and especially which I think may need to happen if the Lakers win, it'll be probably because of anti Dave's again I don't think about out there like have a thirty territory points in the series, a triple double or anything like that like I expect initiatives being score. If they win they lose then we'll see what happens. But if they win I expect him to be the score is to like average about ten rebounds a game somewhere around nine hundred rebounds a couple couple blocks maybe steal. Shoot left field maybe thirty, five, forty percent from three things like that too often freeth alonso after I kind of expect. From him. And The VP less that he has that. Those two things Janas hasn't touched yet. And still will only be. What twenty seven Twenty. Seven years old turn just twenty, seven in March. So he still relatively young now Ziani, this is what I think twenty five. Now, it's again a couple of years on the catch. But Again. A twenty, seven years old I. Think this legitimate and it will start to turn twenty, six December thing. He's not that much older than Janas. Think that happens he is the Democrats to be a top five player in the League like solidifies stamp like you can't take him out again barring some sort of catastrophic season next year like you'd be solidified come to season. was once he won't jam she was like, oh so your best player in the world but no probably not. But again, he's coming off the best that you can make these kind of hyperbolic or hyperbolic issues, arguments about him and how great he is could obviously everyone will injury. Browns and fall off, and then like advocate he wasn't playing like Steph end up being hurt. So I was like Oh maybe a little quiet the best player even elect the raptors. If the warriors the healthy. Here there. MEA like I said, thank you. They said this about why and I'm like it was a little bit but like I said. That I've been a fan of for why remember tweeting back in twenty four team that he was a couple of years away from his first MVP which I mean he could have had if the falcons weren't that good Nacional postings success and different things like that to warranted. Give an MVP generally speaking to a team that finishes in the bottom half of the conference in especially not in the West. I mean even in the West again, outside of any, you're going to your need to do Russell Westbrook have. breaks them for a history. Of ending episode great season, but he hasn't broken any sort of history obviously. And next triple double or whatever. Fifty, four, ninety, whatever you WanNa like that's what he needed to do to win while with the Pelicans now do think if he has a championship gets that office back in the Broncos gives them the full keys and let him. Be The guy. I think that he could when MVP next year baseball team. Again, we'll have to see what happens. When. Season again, how's this this year above the plows? No fans see how. that. Affects people going back to fans being standing next season and that kind of how trump teams position to get more used to doing things like that. But. I think if he gets the championship this year and found NPR's the Jimmy case in while a very strong case, I think. Well Steve. Himself as a player in the league point blank period. No argument. Manella goes to the all time argument gray said Tim Duncan he's in zone like that got to got more championship when some more awards to get anywhere near Tim Duncan. Because Tim Duncan fourth career. I was GONNA isn't hall of fame fifteen time all-star fixing time all NBA FIVE-TIME MBA champ fitting time all defensive team and rookie year was also vp three times MVP two-time racist. MVP. And rookie of your duty never. Win. Defensive Player. That actual. Wow, he never won defensive player of the year. That's crazy. And yet, somehow he made. All defensive team. Second team all defenses in ninety. Eight. which was his rookie year. Yet. and. was like first team for. Forever. Really. Know for five straight years. Unfortunately couple of seventeen sprinkled in there but he had a lot of first teams but knowing VP sounds interesting I mean no defense. And you want to. So he's an illegal eighty got a long way gets up to him. Chemical Net Ozzie he does have the one P which case. But he was the fifth time all-star Fourteen rebounding champ one, the ring nine time all a twelve time. All defensive team rookie of the year. Also humanity P. even play of the year and then won MVP. Like I said. Not. Not a bagger. Obviously he's in the hall of Famer Gray One invest powerful as ever. and. Then Dirk he was house won one championship won MVP though he has swept ploughs that Kinda hurt Was a twelve time. All NBA. Was the filings MVP was the was the Aussie the NBA champion was a four camels. Now, go Dan Davidson accolades already twenty seven. He is a seven time. All Star, basically one in Austin also every year but his rookie year. sometime also three time block champ four time. All Mba. Four Time on defense and all rookie team member in an all star and and also game MVP. Such. That you added James Ship in finds impede of that. Now again, all she doesn't have the all stars in all as offense teams because I'd McKay G or dark has. But again, if he plays. Another. Eight to ten years you can get at least up to close to fifteen a close to fifteen. Is going to get close to ten eleven on the teams. A you will thank he's going to be a close to at least probably seven or eight. All defensive teams. You would think especially during his primacy wins once the defense way off the blood is reputation thing but again as he comes out of his prime. won't be there was applied being all be caliber town offs also will already be there league in blocks again, another time. May. Actually lead the league in rebounding potentially he never know. And then maybe like I said if he wins the MVP now he's definitely. So. Nice Tim Duncan now now now, goals. But like I said an MVP and while the team ship an MVP and was MVP at this point is curriculum both cagey end dark little later in their careers, they'll never play with some brown though I mean as the naked one to MVP's with the mavs I believe. They both seasons were with the mafs. I thought. You could see one wanted to see match from everybody he wanted MVP. In two, hundred, forty, five to in fact on six back to back. Don't know those things. So never mind. Forget everything I said. To See Mattress Emmy. That's funny. 'cause he's only time all star with the mass. Still sowed though but only two time also, but he didn't ever digit until his fifth year in the League. So. They wasn't playing again real star until his fifth year in the League year. So a man just kind of coincides and we make a lot of sense may announced that he raises game. Post. Age Thirty Guy Dan Tony. Are that he didn't have like an all his all his. W decis years are with Dan Tony. His best scoring seasons are with Dan Tony. Analyses MVP's or with Antonio four ninety years. Are With Dantonio as well. Will leave. Now scratch that no, no. No. You know all sorts of years with Antonis well. So. aureus one, he only had one excuse me. Fifty forty ninety. Now, wait way. To. Both those. Came with. The sons I believe. A yet, I'm trying to battle referencing check but I think he had to to destroy ninety and they both came with the sons. Now none of those guys played with town as good as the rendezvous no, you got thirty five year old doesn't twenty, seven, twenty, eight, twenty, nine year old the a little bit older. What's the loss of the Bron? James is still one of the best players in the League if not, the best. So yeah. But I'm saying he gets the final is now inevitable gets right now twenty seven or took those guys until like. What Dirk was, let me see how dark was when he won his obsolete Tim. Duncan doesn't was rookie but dirk was thirty two. When he won his? And Kevin Garn net. was. Is what they want a seven or eight, hundred, thirty one. Says he's got four or five year. No got four year. Four or five year head start on them on the finals. Then again, him engaged came league at the at the same age dirk came in a little bit older because he was the liberal huge twenty loch. And maybe a both nineteen, a kid Anthony was one year college. So. Things legitimate case to be made if the finals this year would not he but if the Lakers win the finals this year he was on the he's at least in that conversation. Now again, he's going to get more accolades and do more things but again, based on what he's done at twenty seven are not put them in that class. At least in town and what they've accomplished again, Tim Duncan that's wait for it online at a win at least three maybe even four to before even begin to have that conversation. But Just the one when Cagey and Derek only have the one they both got later in their career. And Eighty, five, one, twenty, seven. Said, the conversation is there to be had at least I said if he wins it I, think he's from atop plainly like if he's not already I think he's already. But if you don't believe that and I think of winning files this year and being the part of the main reason why they got to the finals and will probably win it. Hard to debate that he's not a top five player in the league certify. But to each their own, that's just me. Magic. We'll see how it all plays out the win all this whole conversation is moot but against Cycle Lakers and six I. I think. That we will be having conversation in about a week and a half two weeks. Or we could have some station weaker after weeks. I am not going to say this the first conversation you have. Because the first station we have will be that Lebron the unequivocal goat which again will save that for. The Lakers Championship. and seeing how it went and obviously because of Lebron like it's on the navy's is curious downs different conversation. But if he's if even the files I mean be then yeah I I think like I said I don't WanNa give him all debate out but Yeah. I, think we'll be in that conversation first then we'll have their. Masters last break. We will come back here and discuss icy played baseball started on Tuesday there'll be eight games Wednesday potentially games Thursday as well. If all series is go three games different that be as play baseball started. So I, think it just give a quick recap of what happened what you may have missed because I don't know if you watch all the games. And kind of A. WHO's in trouble? And who? Now, well, yeah. 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Think I picked them to win did not rose they were on a historic losing streak in they officiant the viciously acid now think they've now lost. seventeen straight games dating back to two thousand four. Was Unaware that it was that bad. I knew I knew a guideline swept by the Yankees in reason years things like that struggled in the playoffs. Recently, what do you mean is, could they run as the Yankees? It happens Did Not it was this bad. If, I would've known that. Pie. Wouldn't. Victim. Yes, the Minnesota twins have. Now all seventeen straight postseason games dating by twenty two, thousand four excuse me that's the blackhawks six game skid spanning nineteen seventy, five to seventy nine for the longest postseason losing streak in any any major American sport. So shout the twins for setting records. But. Yeah. I mean they got off to think it will affect me let the bases loaded in the first inning. Which is Probably. The base loaded with Near the base loaded with one out then was already aligned throughout the first subtle grant. Grounded out the Third Bergman Nice play on it but still you could reach unloaded one out in the first inning. I'm got at least come away with a run there somehow someway, they weren't able to do that. Eventually gotTA run. In the in the. In the third excuse me. Nelson Cruz I believe drove in that run on the ball at like radic played by Khan Weird. Run as high as you thought, he could have back to the fence and announcing one over sad news eight will never get the wall in in time. but I, guess they added one lead a made a pitch well for them, which is kind of what you vote for five strong innings. legacy gave up only two hits. Three walks but five strikeouts again. Do. And then they then they the constantly we gotta run back in the. Seventh. On. On a George Springer single radic was able to score he kind of made up for their. An men came a knife. Like I said they they the the twitter trying to figure out a way to get out of the inning and like get themselves up the Bat Samten win. Win that game. When like us? Think we'll Sergio Romo came into pitch gave a single get another single. Then was able to get ready to get out and Maldonado. So you have the chance to get out of the inning unscathed they I think spring above the middle too short. Polanco tried to go second with those little bit off base kind of Russia. A little bit could Kinda got up on him quick was like a one hopper you thought it was gonna be able to just like you know just make an accurate thrower get him out but he wasn't able to second baseman was unable to Wasn't able to corral the ball tonight. The ending was extent I'm trying to basement was are US Wasn't able to. Corral. Errant throw. And then like I said that extended the which is never wish you ridgewood. You don't want to do especially on an error. You don't WanNa, send the any long and you have to enroll mole walked in the next batter. Walked out to walk in Iran. So that was bad I think they said the first time in postseason history that's happened. They at least that late in the game something like that reference tweeted that out. Loud to me. But against maybe what they put so like I was like, yeah, I mean I believe you but. was that can't be right right. There's no way that that's true. But I'M GONNA, go back and finally tweet few guys again. Like. I said. I like. To give you. Accurate. Stats here. When it comes to these things, we assess so general. Yesterday, around Mo- is the first pitcher in penalty posted in history walk in go ahead run in the ninth inning though someone. Pointed out there had been extra They have been three in extra innings including Kenya Rogers. Walk off walk in the eleventh? Time, that's there has been. This shrimp. I don't that going been trump in the postseason. Damage but yeah. So again, happen extra innings was never happened I guess in the night. So that's unfortunate for those teams. Exam twice the eleventh and once in the Tenth That team that. So, like I said unfortunate for him. bsn then they said them after that the WHO was it the came up next After. How do they walked? It was brand new. Dissenter Schwartz Iran's and they were able to break out and on a similar play to to the one that they were blogging with Aaron throw on the first time and then And then they rarely guys on life. So no Saint Godin Blanco singled. The their bench ground into a double. So. That was like I said, that's a rough one God. That's the game I'm GonNa say show one because they up and blue lead were up one nothing but like that's not the same but that's you're not supposed to. You shouldn't. You shouldn't give runs away in the night anyway that wasn't supposed to happen at the very least. But. It did happen. So now the. The twins has got get. For Pro Verbiage. Excuse me monkey off their back because kind of where is that? They can't seem to get over that Hump. Nathan needs to win a postseason game me loss in a row. Maybe they once they win now they'll be fine. And I guess we'll see what happens in game two. Thousand Cranky was their best pitcher for the Astros and Saint can go from Asia So I guess we'll see what the game to matchup is, who had the pitch things like that But again, that's a game that you would hope to have one. But now you gotta get you gotTa. Hope for the best here. Mike Hope you're signing pitching weather's Barrios or somebody else can. Keep Season Alive Like I said, I guess from the ashes back there was like a look. Now we two games one we haven't been that good this season. maybe we didn't the offs. But I here now. We'll see we'll see who they decided to go with for game two as well but I mean they got the one win. So they're on the right path to the second game was. White. SOx. As and again got the pitcher wrong the LAZARDO. The as did. As opposed to MNAYA. or Yes that right? Instead of Mugniyah maniacal I think But yes, as a starter for game one. But still they want the left-handed pitcher and as we said before, they were the best hitting team starting pitching this season of the ESPN show graphics during the game like fourteen in the ads like seven runs a game on, they were just amazing and that continued today. they got home runs from three different guys. Got One from. From Adam Angle. To start off the. Scoring and the Bible second than another one from Jose Abrego, and both of them were on pitches that were up in zone in hard they. Both on ninety five plus are fast will be left up in zone. White those are very good hitting team, but she good anything for power and So they add up to to runs there and I think IOS. Mining on doll had hit one as well later in the game. He hit one in the top of the eighth. Off of us. Oria. So he's a right handed pitcher but still That's the thing is that like their line of is built like that where they have guys can get on base like Tim Anderson he had he was three or four. beginning guys like, oh, brave who went to four we hit a home run and go into a home run. As the thing like are they didn't they only have like nine hits and Hits, seven of them came from three guys. But. Next. To those guys at home runs. That's Madison. I said as we talked about the. Athletics Excuse me Don't have a lot of hitters like they're kind of guys that if if the pitcher is going to. Be a little bit off and like walk is manufacturer runs that way but. Due to the fact that Luge Alito was onto that. Specifically. Like if I. Too Long. He probably need to go back out there for the eighth. got thanked the that's. That's when He. gave up his only run. The game was the navy up until then he was dominating, but then he walked guy. Then he singled in. The Guy was third Martin New pitcher came in and they were on there but then Marshall and bummer combined to get out of the inning. And then call came in. Shutdown. Of. One two, three in the knife. But showed. What he is, and as as the number one star, he was dominant in the game seven, two hits. One run eight walks eight ninety walks I've been back a one walk eight KS on one hundred pitches again, he was great things that showed what he could be. And what are you kind of what? What he has been over the past music? Very good quality number one tile pitcher in a rotation. Again, he signed service Carrillo shaky but over the last couple sees has been very good and this is kind of what you hope for in his first postseason with the white sox at least pitched at any point in the postseason with the national. But with this was big time moment to show you that. Yes this is why I'm the guy on this one as. You back it up, and now again, they turned down tycoon game to who has again not is in the the most elite postseason pitcher but he's a guy that has been has experienced has been there before and again they got the one game cushion. So that helps you get. You have to go to a game three who? Game Three. But also now, they like I said, you got some frisking jitters out because these guys their first postseason even for older guys like a break you Anderson like these guys aren't like young guys like they're not like. Bear the not Jimenez who didn't have to play takes us was a little bit banged up but able or eligible the pinch as they need him today. So see plays on Wednesday or Thursday. But again, they gotta show what they are. They're a power hitting team had three home runs and they have very pitching good bullpen. So. Pick them over as well. I think they could be sneaky. World Series team if they get if they get hot and aren't pitching's good enough over the course of the play offs. Zaza Getting Hegazy for parallel gathered for average. Does Not really very many if if any really easy outs in their lives, if if everybody's if once Jimenez back in there. Like with with no encarnacion would no no mamas are in there. Even magic all hits like again he's A. He's nine hitter at it like almost three hundred on the year hit three forty on the year. Thirty in twenty nine games. But again, he's a very good average aggregate with two strikes alike again after average non hitter. So a deadly lineup is very tough one through nine generally speaking. So they're not gonna be easy for anybody. So see bounce back in game two but. I think the watts good forms out of Kaikal that might enough to put them over the edge of another won't be facing left-handed pitcher tomorrow I would imagine there's no way he's pitching life pitcher in the series as a star, the end bullpen different story. But as a star, there's no reason to. This there's no reason to do it in game. One of my opinion anyway. But a days what what they thought could work backfire is what it is. The third game because the last game is not remote start with our game was raised bluejays and lakes now. Did his thing that he continues to do against the raise against the Blue Jays took a no hitter into the sixth also I think what? Other delete Oh took a perfect game into the seventh affirmative, the six or seven his game. Number yeah, he was great. Great. they I mean, they basically only gave one run in the game on sacked fly the Blake's now. Performs tonight you kinda figured he would. He's he's living experience guy five and two thirds one hit two walks nine strikeouts. Just, the Yo came in. Baron magazine gave up one run on two hits in one in third, and then fairbanks manner shut them down. In the nine. One two, three, eighty, two, strikes, two strikeouts excuse me. So I. Guess it's kind of what I thought The Blue Jays is a good story. Now one. No one. Not One two three strike outs, but the the second strike out on the E. No. Okay. Not Want to three There was a strike out swinging double than Hernandez struck out looking. mcgary I was able to get to third while pitch during that debate and then Panik lined line down so. Now one-two-three but still never really in too much danger. So, there is that But yeah. Just another thing that I think the Buddha's Watson story especially when you play a team like the raise where that's in your own division experience with them is not new to them like you know who they are and what to expect. That's a tough match-up for the blue days coach in their first postseason for these guys. They. Only got five minutes throughout the game gory got to video. Got One kirk out one adventure. Roddy tells got one Bobryshev. Got The though sacked fly. Respected. And arrays respect late again, no one revealing they only four hits on their own but Margo had a two run homer and like I said, that's that's generally going to be. enough. Guys. Are Guys hit home runs the other one they they score on a wild pitch after walk some. Nice meeting, the team were great offense but nothing the rays have enough pitching to where they can manufacture some runs should be get dumbo. See what happens again game to see how the blue bounce back Larry with I wouldn't want to go down lightly. But again, we'll see what happens and then last night was Yankees Indians. In My. Francona was pitching I forgot he he had the. Do to some I'm managing some health reasons but regardless, they matter he was out there or who's in the out there it Bieber didn't to have today it is what it is like. He Left A. The youngest jumped on first. Pitch fastball. Many Times. it and they. Get on early and often, and he would there never looked that comfortable in this unfortunately because in short series like this might this is probably the only time he pitches. And they lost being like I said for the Yankees thoughts about the like. If they lose Cole game like what happens sank convenience is used to be regained are now you're counting on? Calls for lasko against potentially again don't know who again to stars me but caused graphs go against Tanaka. Maybe or Zach. Or like I said, I'M GONNA, go with for game two but bieber that's was desert as that's your number one he's been the best pitcher in the league that's supposed to be game you win and you try to win one of the next to last this game you win and he got he got lit up that hit around quite a bit I mean. Lit Up is not necessarily the. Whole percent correct term but he did not have good. No. No, I take that back you got four, hundred, thirty, nine hits, seven runs all earned. To, authentic gave up two home runs. And again, we matter the Yankees whoever was out there they were twelve runs or twelve three had fifteen hits total. The May who was was good at two hits Judd only had the one hit, but it was a home run got Kinda. Got The offense going early second game forwards in the Indians were down to nothing. Never, really able to recover. because even when they scored runs back to back in third and the fourth, like the the Yankees yourself five to at that point, they were able to keep the scoring going from there. void had two hits grabber Torres look good I imagine he won't be hitting seventeen lineup again next game I would think you never know. But I think if I move him up on the why Hicks his batting third again, walk twice. So that's nice again, kidding wise like doors is clearly a better hitter than he is. Makes Sense to me when you want to win the right into pitch, you want break up Khanna, some of the the right handed bats in the lineup. But again like in terms of your best hitters. Doria should be higher. So get foreheads. Garner had three hits, three RBI's. For Shallow. Got Hit. Stan gotta hit. And they didn't back. Gary. Sanchez because the other catcher. Is is better works better coal and it worked out for them because coal seven innings success to warn runs thirteen case you have the one home run to I. Think. Joss Naylor. was no or to novel that one's bad but he did at the. Because offense was dominant and that's kind of what I was afraid for the Indians is that like I don't have often keep up with the Yankees offense it'd be was going to do this. Be They do this to Bieber? I don't know which guy you hope for again they said a lot of the satellite strikeouts team. That they struck out ten times. The teams are still big swings and so free swing. So it's like it's impossible to get past that lineup but yet the INCAS are gonna hit very well, it's going to be tough to beat them. Next to handle the lineup is again tough from I mean outside of the catcher. Tom dari-speaking their line of like you may judge voight staying if he's in Charlotte Glacier tour has like. There's not many easy house in their line-up either just like the white sox. Like the full of guys can hate, then hit for power is not like these guys outside of like Lemay. Car To judge a big eater voice a big power hitter stains off. For Power. Michelle is not like not the biggest power hitter, but he's not he's not he's not nothing. So six home runs on the year. Thirty RBI. So again, not. Not Nothing. who still again, a solid hitter Was He had about three hundred. This year has to go along with three hundred last year. And last at twenty one home runs again, he even he can hit for a little bit of power just less games this year. But yeah. So Tough Indian see who like I said to see if they go with for game two. But. Yeah. This kinda what you feel when you facing go so see what happens there these according to ESPN fs going with so see what happens there. Yeah the the Yankees I think if they're if they're on I think they're probably deemed to be in the. In the. In the AL though again, we'll see what happens if they got faced the raise in in game two because the rays of their number all season but again, break season doesn't matter season. So we'll see how that plays Abba so. Four Fun Games to. Start. In. Eight Games over the next two days until like potentially like a games each day over Wednesday and Thursday. So it Kinda look into that. See what's areas ends see who can. Somehow matched GONNA look like after after this a weekend because I've seen next weekend our next week is the neck around start next Monday will use when the Ale the DSS would start day. LDS first and then and ods on Tuesday. So the plays up, but should be fun nonetheless. For me here today on MC sports podcast presented by GMC podcast now pointed, thank you for listening to me. Talk about sports that we haven't already swept podcast Michigan Nemesis episode. 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Radio Theater James Stewart as the sixty gun will travel the speed of light over the lone ranger. Now here's your host. Why it Cox Western adventure this hour? Start off in San Francisco. John diener starring as Paladin. Have Gun will travel march thirteenth nineteen sixty Montana vendetta. There's an old norman law which says private venture has been succeeded by the judge. You do out remember that before you decided to take the law into your own hands. Have Gun will travel starring Mr John? Dinner as Paladin San Francisco eighteen seventy five the Carlton Hotel headquarters of a man called Paladin. Good Morning. Good Morning. Hey boy you'll go out early. Yes indeed nothing. Like a brisk walk before breakfast. He Very Nice Day. Oh yes warm. Sunshine stifle year's at the spring and days at the morning. Excuse me you forgot to pick up main last night. Compu- thank you. Boy Said Muller beaver Fork Montana. See Mr Paladin. Your reputation for taking hold of a situation has reached this town and I would like Abloy saw muller says he needs my services. Wants me to get up there to beaver fork as soon as possible. So you go down to the hotel basement where my trunk is stored and dig out that winter clothing. We just packed away He saw bad. You had to leave when we have such Nice Day. Something to school ush boy. Oh well Mr Muller enclosed a very handsome Jack for most of the country year was at the spring but northern Montana was having a late winner. I reached a settlement. Just twenty miles from beaver fork when a blizzard hit. The storm raged for ten days and witnessed. I finally cleared. The snow is piled in roof high drifts and the roads were eight feet under. I had found MRS ABBOTS Boardinghouse Home. Cooking clean beds reasonably comfortable at my fellow. Lodgers were quite pleasant learning. Paladin morning where do you think you're going all rigged up like that? I'm leaving old time. I've already wasted too much time looking here. You Ain't aiming to take out over that mountain area. I have to have been in beaver fork over two weeks ago. Man Must be important. If it can't wait to the trailer clears up a mindset for me said Muller said. You know I'm sure. No shed no the rest of the bunch to there's a former up this way they'd been in these parts long about a year. Maybe you said he needed me have you. Father did take a good look at the snow hanging on them peaks. Well there's lots of it just like it wasn't fifty nine who jittered never forget what happened. Avalanche biggest avalanche every here in east part. Well I'll just have to take my chances bio timer. I followed the floor of allied White Valley. Several miles then turned toward the mountain. Hunter passed his rifle slung easy across his arm. He smiled waved. Went on and I started the climb. Halfway up the slope by stopped to rest on a narrow ledge below me on the flatland I could see the hunter and apparently he had spotted his glory for You. Raise the rival to shoulder fired. I looked up ahead to see if he had made his kill. The body of a man lay sprawled in the snow and then it came like a whispered I and a slow almost gentle movement and then a low rumble the bill to a deafening roar and a great light cloud that move toward me back swallowed a little more this rotgut discriminating man. I like that so but it's the best I can do the moment. Yeah I think I will. Looks like you're GonNa make an after all. I was doubtful for a while. Then a mountain fell on me takes a little time. It's all right. Take all the time he won. Where am I? What is this place here and abandoned? She heard his cabin. I found it. Hold up here during the storm. My Name's Daniel Kerr. Did you dig me out of that? Snow A HANDFUL. At a time. You were under there three hours three hours. You fell by a boulder create an air pocket. That's how you managed to survive. Usually one slide will start another. You're risking your life to rescue me. Perhaps well how did you get me here carried you you quite a load? Why did you do it? Well after all I realize it was reverberation from my shot that causes the slide. I felt responsible. But why did you take the trouble to save me? I saw you deliberately shoot a man I know but you see when I mean from my gun to kill man. How pointed at him take game? Pull the trigger. Didn't occur to you that I'm the only witness to the murder you committed. Well that's true of course but that's beside the point. Well much obliged. I don't mention it now. See if I can russell. You bite eat March thirteenth nineteen sixty have gun will travel on. Classic Radio Theatre. Maybe you can relate to this. A lot of people think they're stuck with their health plan. It costs too much or for whatever reason they just don't like it but great news. 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Well Hanmi my rucksack. That'll be an extra candidate vacco in here as a leg fielder day. Whoa is much better to say up. The fact I've a job to do yes I will to tobacco. Oh yeah here it is good keeping. Thanks oh here. This letter fell out of the sack business within beaver for syd Muller. That's the man I have business with. Oh He's next on my list list to kill why I haven't asked you any questions. Paladin syd Muller. No He's on your list. I think he does. Well that Daniel I. I think it's only fair to tell you. Mike guns for Hire Muller sent for me probably to protect him from you and perhaps we'll meet again sort of hated to say goodbye anyway. It's been very pleasant you leaving. I made my plans morning since I saw. You could get around so I'd better get started. Especially if you're going to be working for Muller I'd hate to have to point my gun at you Paladin and I would you know if you've got in the way of the job. I have to do so along. Thanks again for the tobacco. Thank you for saving. My life was a pleasure you three days in a row. I tried to work my way down the trail from the cabin the valley and each time my knee gave way and I had to give up and crawl back over the hard facts. No but on the fourth day. I made it. It was bitterly cold an icy winds blowing. But I saw that the roads have been cleared and I decided that my best that was to return to the settlement. Get A horse. I'd gone only a short distance when I saw a wagon coming toward me. Well padded old-timer Lordy man. I never picked she you again till the spring. I was thinking you were stretched up stiff onto the hawkish snow. Come down off the mountain. In fact I was really mind. I climb up there with you. Know come on. Get one of them. Their blankets wrap around you. Yeah this here's a real snapper. Sure is they. Where are you headed? Old-timer Beaver Park. I am the bearer of ood dern disconcerting titans Yeah Yep after the slide we even all out there pulling her on the snow. Look at the now now there. We come across eight Muller Muller and that kids brother three four days ago Franklin. That's another guarded over from beaver. Far To pick up the remains. You had to wait till the road was clear you she never showed up. He was found this morning. Rifle-shot looked like somebody's not exterminate. The mother boy looks like real blood. Guild blood feud wait a minute old-timer where were the Muller's located before they came to Montana? They've always been kind of tight mouth about themselves but I always figured it was Texas. Sure doll become judge. Orrin con Daniel. When she found the appended judge car was an eastern appointed by the president to preside over the court and Dobie County and the first cases came up before him was a murder charge against a man named Muller. Yeah he was found. Guilty car sentenced him to be hanged day. The sentence was carried out. Five men broke into the judge's house and string them up by the neck. And the Rafic. What did you know varmints nothing but everyone knew that? The five inches Ramona's sons. You mean you think these allergens shame on and as I recall several months later the oldest muller boy was ambushed. Yeah that must have been the others left. Dobbin came up here. Daniel Judge Cars Sunning Course Shannon. What are you saying Paladin explained later? Old-timer let's move on you never pumpkin. We didn't move quite fast enough. We beaver Fort. We found a crowd gathered around a blanket wrapped body hanging over the back of a prospectors. You'll it was Vernon Muller he'd been ambushed hears getting pretty scary. Paladin agree is Sydney's crowd here over here in red mackinaw Muller. Yeah who you. My name is Paladin Paladin. Find TIME FOR YOU TO BE SHOWING. Jano it too late to be. It helped him. That's why I want to return this check to you a now. Sit there. Brother Franklin was found this morning frank. He's been shot dead frank to that man ain't got to. I ain't nobody save like crazy killers run in Los Insert. The only life in danger now is yours. You better get to the sheriff and asks for protection to a man can be found and brought to justice justice look Paladin. We'll see that he's brought to justice. Just don't you worry? Hellas Specter. That brought inverted. Here says there was some tracks out there in the snow. We gotta get us some hounds and go after that crazy killer and when we get in we stringing up fellas real worked up in. I think maybe I know where Daniels headed. I've got to get to him before. That mob does year so all fired concern about this failure. You think he would behold into him old timer. I'm beholden to him for my life. Daniel Daniel let me in your working for Mullen up time. My Gun is pointed at you. I'm not working for me anymore. I'm going to talk to you. I hope you don't mind. I'M GONNA keep my rifle on you know right ahead coming. Close the door Daniel. They're coming for you. Crazy mob said mater with them. Yeah Good I've been waiting to get to him. You can't stay here. I'm not going to move until I kill Syd Muller Daniel. You're an intelligent man. What do you mean by this Vendetta Paladin? My father's head as Julie appointed judge in the case of the State of Texas versus Lee mullery gave an honest and impartial judgment based on the laws of our land. So the Muller's took the law into their own hands and kill your father. Now you've taken the law into your hands to kill. Where does it end doesn't matter there's still time? Daniel give yourself up to the law. Tell your side of the Snow Paladin. I have a job to do look. They're on their way they're coming for you. I'm staying him. And don't interfere. Daniel listen to me stay back. No I won't pull this trigger. Sorry pal and beat Manley came. You sure must have got yourself a good whack on the head hit me with the rifle but Nah I thought you'd never come into away the mob. They done their dirty work and gone already. What happened that bunch? I was trailed and on with him. We got to this year place in this fellow when nobody's expecting it. He just steps out biggest life. Somehow he got a beat on stead just pointed his gun took team pull the trigger. Shit just dropped then that crazy mob. They had to rope already. Ending Man Paladini Chiro. Pretty Daniel was determined to end and I couldn't stop him. Terrible waste old timer. Oh I'm in Hello Miss One. We did the Green Room Lisa pilot. Oh what's his Some clothing Ms Wong winter clothing. Hey boys going to put it in my trunk in the basement. Then he's going to push the trunk away over in the corner. We won't be needing it again for a long time. Mizzou sewn in Asia Dot Com. What's that Michel Pilot Oh that fussell. I've translated by Rosetti. But where are the snows of yesteryear and I was just thinking I don't care. Where are the snows yesteryear? I don't care where are the snows of this year. 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It's no use will do Tokes Marshall Angle. Make sure you will read. I'm going to clean it up. Some no no let it be a little water. Please hang on now. Seeing no time to quit. We got a chance. We got away not me to fix me. Don't you worry about that? Marshall deemed finding this. Now you get him. You're going to be able to get him for yourself. Read well you need a little rest to use you you you get him. Don't die on me now. We got off. You give up Jason Rape. All right all right. I'll get in final do nothing else. I'll get that Marshall we can. Yeah I don't know whether to put showroom that feather or shooters what are you talking about that at all every time you turn your head and he puts my I heaven sake you think this one look at the one. Jones is true. Oh was that one man and have to get right off. The boardwalk cloud some of them. That wouldn't be such a bad idea. I mean every company accepted a cost. Remind soft soap. No any girl. It'd be proud to be seen walking down the street with you. Oh look just riding in town or it's time to get back on a holiday stranger. That's been keeping up say math. That's a funny thing grumpy old goat. You couldn't help hearing that's not like him. No kidding in Car Walker. Yes give you. Let me know if he needs anything or sure. I'll do that looking villain. You should at least are me take your rooftop anyway. Father chested rest near as good. Land there at your boots on. You're just never mind just to make them more comfortable out of here. Let me go to sleep with you. Just two hundred and how to rest proper between midnight and nobody Matt Mack. They're g back there on the eight worst in when you mean just plain out of sorts for one thing. Oh that's nothing new. What else does alienate act like? You've got good sense trying to go to sleep after four day ride on even taking his boots. Aw Short Leash Hugh. Toshio should listen. When you come back later please just be one. I guess. Open your mouth. You Want Tom. Give me a hand. That's all I wanna take your pulse just to get me some water. I got a woman but I'm not gonNA sleep. I'll let you get it in a minute man. In fact you're gonNA sleep much better. I got one and consumer take this. Oh I don't want to chase away. What's left of the fever? You've has go ahead Matt and ticket here Matt didn't kid I would get out of here and you will thank me when you wake up get. Outta here I don't know why they choose a U. S. marshal or actual much. I come new. Enough is is mister doing really sick. I think the worst absorb everybody probably had a pretty bad touch a fever on the trail. I wonder it's worn out and can do one on. Don't think suggested and he'd sleep more than I love. You Know I. It's bad at taking care of sick folks. I know but I don't think that's going to need an expert nursing man. It just don't seem right. They ain't nothing match just like an Warren. I'm just trying to help with WANNA help. So much money to pick up his things for look he shoot. It did spread them around. Didn't he wound up? It looks like a pig sty here and just throw this stuff down walk through saddlebag enrolled. Then that's good. Jesse can fixed them all up for him. Not Getting just look. I'm going to take a look at his latest. Dropped the belt on the corner there. That looks like it's been in the mud at short now. That ain't like Mr done but I don't think he's been feeling much like himself. The last two or three days. I don't understand I'd gun could get this way. I don't know what just and he fell off his horse with a fever he would have been getting. There's no question about that and just a blast to clean it up more and more on mine. That's good justice. Yes now there. It is something you can do. At least I just You WanNa Watch out for one thing. What's that we want to be? Sure and take the cartridge out of that gun before you Cleveland. Well now I don't think mad at take too kindly to the idea of. You're using his gun to blow your brings out with a chorus. I'll take them out. I haven't started maclean it yet. You know you can see for yourself real estate. I'm relieved about that fool would know that. I'm glad to hear yes. We'll chester OSCEOLA noviny bind. You wouldn't bullets. Of course I will by no warden bullets body. Don't get credit for no sense at all Mr. Come in and shut the door. He Room for no more flies in here. Marshal's office is is. Here's a markle office. You can't see Mr doing team. See Chester him. I'm just twenty one. I'm defects you Frattini. Were docks here to come doc. Oh that can be so. And he's been five minutes he is right here and right away. Are you sure about that? Seemed like doc would've told me. His quarter. Josh Prince Broke Blake. Why can't do nothing about that? Want you to help hold him down. T sets you better look and see Mister Dole Megyn I a deadly world. 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Dylan chase them all right and he killed read. That's why Jones back to get map you should. I'm sure he's down delivery stable then into the lean horse. He's telling them it right out plane. He's out to get the Marshall so I think I'll ride right on through. I'M GONNA catch a bullet. I don't want it to be one. That was meant for somebody else songs long. Bill Kidding man talking about Dylan did he say back. Dodge did Miss Kitty. Delivery Steve Marsh. Somebody out of town. That won't be sense but nothing. Thanks Myself Jeffer- wake up. Chester Chester math. Wake up come on wake up. Oh water gotTa do it magic. It's Joe Line. Madison Dot to get live. Yeah can't be lost them. Have where the border on our Kenny. When you go to kill his brother he's after your bill. Burr saw him just a few minutes ago over the livery stable some coffee you need your eyes wide open asset. This had been a gun belt. Thanks KITTY LITTER ALL RIGHT. But it'll be alright. Well now all right Josh. That's all there is to thanks. I'll get somebody to drive yacht home. Living DOT COM. I'm going to be able to use the league alright again crush Josh. You're probably better never after I've worked on it right. All right. Ha Ha Boys Joshua Hanover's wag. Thanks again dark reports that all you need me for US Jessica Yu Great Help. Getting ON BACK OFFICE IS YEAH. I forgot is she. Were in the middle of a mighty important job route. You know. Clean them at gun. Oh wife any ABADAKA. Don't give me credit for having you're telling me to be sure and take cartridges out you better get the gun back to where Matt Left. He might catch cold if they got up and started wandering around wearing. You don't think I'd leave. Mr Dylan's couldn't find it do I don't know just put it right where he can see it all right to own long. I gotta get back there. Well what is it you think coffee is going to boil over? No doc high cleaning for God put them Cardi back. Mr Doing gone a US tell you marshal Joel? I'm stunned the stable. He's there all right and talking. Awful mean almost crazy about you killing his brother. I just don't believe I'd go in there. Marshall just Oughta tell you must stay out of the way. That's her leave. I will come out of there it. You can shoot back. Marshall I gotTa See I. It'll be better for you. If you come out of line you come get me law and you just come and get me upcoming Marshall you might have got up in the long sure big and brave dive into that stole. Come on down line grade like when you shot red all. I'm ready for your move on. You even GonNa get me worth a single shot. You better make your Mobile Marshall up here come on out give out live. Come OUT ON NEW. Come get me. I don't have to bed. Coppola's shot guns empty as your last chance. Come out on. I'm coming down right. Go alone you till you do. It's got your gun. I got you to stand still probably nothing foolish. I ain't going to kill you easy. Marshall I'M GONNA kill you slow little bit at a time. You got any say all man not to you. Maybe you will have to apply. Don't you because it's not gonNA shoot lyme through not hardly it's still break you in Baton Rouge one moving slowly to Chester done? You all right. I'm all right. Give him covered with that shotgun. Sure I got him covered real good. Come down here. The guns are remembered. Remember what I forgot what them bullets back in your gun cleaned. You forgot to put a bullet back history. Your gun was empty. Lord of mercy you could have been killed with all thanks to me. I could have been killed would have been to chester if you had the bullets back. Empty Gum Savior alive. And just doing Riley understand. Tell you about it sometime sometime when I'm load my own gun alright line. Jails that way I get gone march. Thirteenth Nineteen Sixty gunsmoke on Classic Radio Theatre Visit. Our web page classic Radio Dot Stream and find our podcast anywhere on the Internet by searching. 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Notes that shortly before the debate the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released do guidance urging Americans to cancel or postpone in person gatherings that consists of fifty more people for the next eight weeks. Ohio schools begin their corona virus shutdown later today local and state agencies and organizations are mobilizing quickly to ensure kids in need. Don't go hungry. There are hundreds of thousands of K. Through twelve students who rely on free or reduced price meals at school and the approved the Ohio Department of Education's waiver to serve meals and non congregate settings and at school sites during the closures. Georgina von with the Association of food banks encourages patients as district's developed meal distribution plans. We all are working on this from the school level to the government level to the philanthropic and charitable level as well as local businesses. Who are chipping in. We understand your concern and your fear trust at your school. You're going to communicate with you. As soon as they have the information they need to do so shell nutrition programs in Ohio. Serve more than one million meals daily across more than three thousand sites Governor Mike Dewine announced the school closures through April third but noted. The shutdown could extend much longer Mary Chairman reporting those foodbanks. Patriots are taking precautions to ensure safety of volunteers including enhancing sanitizing practices. Helped minimized spread of the virus. Meantime Washington State sick-leave policies are in the spotlight as the novel. Corona virus rex havoc on workers and businesses Maryland. Watkins with the Economic Opportunity Institute says Washington has enacted. Some of the most far-reaching and progressive. Paid leave laws in the country to start. Workers can tap into paid sick leave through their employers and receive full pay. Paid sick leave is available to be used if you yourself or stack if one of your family members back to us in public health emergencies when your child's school is closer your child daycare as close Watkins notes. Many paid sick leave programs are short term lasting one or two weeks for more extensive coverage. The state has paid family and medical leave program that went up at the beginning of the year. Although Washington state has been the epicenter of this crisis she says it's better prepared than many other states for Public News Service. America tag off advocates. Say folks could qualify for unemployment insurance if their employer has suspended operations or cut their hours. This is PMS. Starting Wednesday Minnesota public schools will be closed for several days while more people work remotely because of the Corona virus concerns as renewed calls for more broadband Internet access in rural areas. The state recently announced additional investments to establish more high speed internet networks for rural residents and businesses Nathan Zachariah so the Minnesota rural broadband coalition says. While that extra money is helpful. There still will be area struggling to work or learn remotely during this period of restricted public. Gatherings we're going to see more pressure and more stress with the coded nineteen outbreaks. And that's putting pressure and stress our institutions. And it's GonNa it's GONNA show a bad really. This is a broadband is no different than some of the other basic services that people need Zachariah says it means. Some people won't be able to check or send important emails. In addition to missing out on video conferences the coalition estimates that seventeen percent of minnesotans lack broadband access last year. The legislature approved the forty million dollars in grants to address the issue but the coalition is hoping an additional thirty million dollars approved this year to help. Close the remaining gap Mike. Mohan public new service. Prisons can be incubators for spreading the corona virus advocates. Say officials need to take more measures to prevent infection from spending behind bars? Federal and most state prisons including those in Maryland had banned visits to keep inmates safe but tyrone walker formerly incarcerated associate with the Justice Policy Institute. Says that's not enough. He says officials need to end overcrowding and give her role to the elderly to keep incarcerated people save people currently incarcerated the House on top each. They asked him about the corolla bars. Like you know they have some space will not allow while you're cost. List of America's incarcerated populations in state facilities the Maryland Correctional Department said. 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Here is the adventure story of the early West. The team the team from the Paco's powder river dodd city poker flat. These are the towns. They fought to live in and live to fight. Four teeming crucibles pioneer freedom from town Chad Remington Chad Remington from those risks and the mountain country. Where I'm sort of. I guess you'd call me a frontier town lawyer. Strange things happen out on the frontier and as a result strange things happen to me. Mighty strange things. The frontier being what it is always changing always moving and with the people who drift into it and across. We've got about as much law as well as the law allows showing you what I mean. Let's take what seemed to be pretty cut and dried case. That was brought to me just a matter of a few weeks ago and I guess the best way to tell you about it is to tell you what happened or what. I suppose happened before they send out all took place in the town of rock springs or about forty fifty miles from those really concerned a cattle rancher by the name of Oliver Baldwin and his daughter Dick Crime. You're just wasting your breadth arguing with me on what I'm doing and I'm going down hill. Andy Stone tell him off proper. Maybe you'd make a mistake when you wrote that deed out for him. Maybe you just thought you wrote it out for three hundred acres. Am I gonNA put an x? Zero on it without realizing only mistake I made was in dealing with that unprintable. No good in the first place. I know what I wrote in that and it was just three hundred acres and not three thousand dollars. Positively change the three hundred to three thousand. You steal shouldn't take the laundry your own or should anything about taking the law into hand. I'm just going to under dental Andy store. Give Him twenty four hours to change at east back to three hundred acres or suffer the consequences while I'm in town. I'm into the telegram over the dossier that lawyer over there Chad Remington. Because if they're going to try any sean me I am. I getting alliance and him and his whole kit and caboodle. Right smack into tate Well Oliver Baldwin was as his word. It's the team to his buckboard and drove from the toolbar s. The Rock Springs to call inside delahunt at the little store. Della Handy had recently opened in the town and while he was on the trail the Rock Springs. Oliver Baldwin was the subject of the conversation. Della Handy was having with his assistant. Prod Stevens look must have done a handy. I know I work for you. But you ain't been in rock springs long enough to know about these things and I'm telling you. Oliver Baldwin is a regular cat amount. When he gets riled say so proud gentleman looks so gentle. But I wouldn't go talk about. That'll here comes Baldwin. Now let me handle on and Oliva and going to go holler and me. Don't tell me just because you made it perfectly understandable mistaken filling out my D- GonNa hold it against me Ella Handy. I know you ain't been enough to understand US hoax them. Smooths anyways yours. Don't go out here. We got our own way. Hanlin Crooks show the gentlemen of the door and don't be too polite about come on your home. I miss the border. You pull a gun acted like a complete nitwit. Run the two hundred dollar MIRA. Now get up before I lose my temper completely if that gunslinger yours didn't have my forty five odd. Show you but I am. I getting a lawyer down here Daddy. And when he comes you'll be lucky. If you end up in jail senator help. Is We only Kinda help? He's going to need. Is the help of six pallbearers. Reichel out of the back room when I arrive not on the trail making sure that Mr Baldwin never gets back home owner Oliver Baldwin stopped long enough in rock springs before heading home to send me a telegram so enlisting the company and assistance of Cherokee Obama at the medicine man who now owns those reas livery stable. We lost no time in setting out for rock springs and piling up the dust to the to Boras renshaw this established but Mr Baldwin has over here Chan Yup and from all appearances Oliver Baldwin seems to be one of the few really prosperous. Wrenches might be able to pay you a counselor. What do you call sizable e dollars for me and then courts whiskey for you? Oh sizable should be twenty dollars. Oh I'm Chad Remington and this is Mr Bannon is Mister Baldwin home. I I'm dixie focusing. Follow that was he was I who was the principal Culprit Adair. Cherokee no time to ask questions if Miss Dixie feels like talking. She'll tell us all it's necessary knew before my father left the town that he'd never come back. What do you say that? Because he went into suicide della. Handy with Blood Sean Hannity. Who's he dopamine crossing sheep Stealing Jasper? Who just opened a store in town? I can't prove it. I'm positive Della Handy. Why do you say that S is your father? No daddy threatened him. Planet See delanie moved to rock springs from Springfield a few months ago. You still own and started. Looking around for some Rancho Handy advice on that explains Potter. Your father's telegram about affords deed so della Hindi. Three hundred acres was filed. Read three thousand. A father was dry and if he wanted to della had stored threatening because it didn't think they'll a handy would do what he did his own store. Do you with the best kind. They just wait shallow. The door forty minutes Dixie. Yes if I recognize his rig outside. That must be heavy at the door. Now wait a minute mystic. See Jerky I had better go into the kitchen. While he's here you don't WanNa meet now Hammy. Not just yet. I'm going to be a lot of help. You wait a minute. I only wanted. You'd better let them in explained. My reason st later I come on at the numerous blowing ackerman. Yes as long as you're here a a week ago I'd have felt sorry your father and for you. Since he made his attitude very apparent yesterday. I'll just make this a business call myself. The trouble of coming to see you again saves me. The trouble is seeing you again if I told you. He told me. Only three hundred acres didn't he? He did say fortunately. That part is passed argument when it came to see me yesterday. He asked me to promise that I wouldn't tell you about this here. Hundred headed the bill of sale. One hundred head of cattle. You didn't think I was going to buy three thousand acres of land raise jackrabbits on at the gym. I vote ranch from a father ranch with Catalonian. You you to Della Handy. I WanNa tell you something I'm show you already know. This is nothing but forgery. You copy my father's signature from the original deed. How very several of me? Because you can prove that statement giving you three to get out of jail sense enriching bed rifle young lady that I've told you the facts going. I'll be back Monday to take over. Might three thousand acres the cat along with it Damon Baldwin. Don't expect me as your father. Funeral Mattis is fine. High Class Gentleman. Do you believe you'll find that? It selling mechanical eleven hundred dollars. I'm forced to agree with young lady Chan. So Am I. Jerky but that doesn't mean a judge in twelve and on a jury. Would now the first thing for us to do if Miss Dixie feels up to it is right into town and call the sheriff a? If you can't really loud one thing proven another at how are you going to prove thing like forgery whenever you knew you couldn't tell if it's your father's signature well if either of you think? I'M GONNA be robbed of my ranch in my stock. You've certainly got another thing coming. Victory the law's the law consumer law. Maybe I'd better make a few laws of mile optics. You're not going to get any place acting this way your concern Mr Remington remember. I didn't ask you come down here. And if my father had known as much about you add who? Now I don't think he would have either A. We'll return to the second act of branding. The badlands are exciting frontier town adventure in just a few moments March Thirteenth Nineteen fifty-three Frontier Town on Classic Radio Theatre. Hi I'm Wayne. Allyn Root Mr Health I want all the millions of fans be healthier live a long life so we could save America. American exceptionalism capitalism. So are you in front of America? Did you know that a nineteen seventy-three? A Harvard doctor discovered the greatest single risk factor indicator for heart. Disease is a crease in water. Both your Lopes Strauss. 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The door leaving us with a bit of Ghana's faces not much to do and a good deal to talk about you know I'm not a man. Relax propriety I WANNA go on record saying perhaps the most pigheaded. I've ever seen one of the most pucker. Tuten is I might add. D Find a lot of good. Her poker food is doing is he's locked up in. A room has certain advantages that example since he has not out here to play hostess. I could look through the kitchen cupboards to see if I could locate any if refreshment ten type this is one time you need a clear head. Hausler. My head is players about us in public places. Empty art what percent again Benham. There's only one thing for us to do. We've got to inducements Dixie to come out and listen to reason and no two ways about that vinyl women than I do. He's not coming out Dixie. Can you hear me? I WanNa talk to you. You're just wasting your breath bar. GonNa stop acting like a spoilt island. Come out here for dinner will happen on your father. Telegraph to come out here and well. He needed some help. And if you want to have their hands why you ungrateful Little Vixen. Now you open that door. Someone's going to have to buy a new one you you're going to get a load of. Buckshot all right Charity that exists for IOS. Good for something. Come on. How many buses this door down to her. Client counseling one. Who Big Thong Manny? What do you think you're big enough to swallowed literature? Love is just like temporal on the service and for your information. I'm leaving rock springs yet information. I don't care what you do as long as you get out of my house. That's a bargain come on Cherokee. We got a bit a ride into doing fat union. We did have a bit of ride into road. Back to town. Made Tracks Della Hattie's general store where we called Mr Della handle himself and mighty short or I've heard about you. I mean I've heard about you to Lavelle. You wouldn't believe all I hear. Sorry what I hate about you. I've got to believe really smart man. Wouldn't you talk as if I came here to make trouble? We didn't putting all my cards of a table. Oliver Baldwin Central Me. When I got here he was dead. And in my humble opinion. That daughter of Baldwin's is a double died. Self will little fool. Is she talking to the sheriff? I'm I'm sure that I look old. One was supposed to pay me five hundred coming here and it looks as if I'm not going to get it so I thought maybe I could get part of it by making a deal with you. The deal keep talking. Well Sheriff. Says there's no question in his mind that you bought and paid for one hundred headed to bars. Cattle Zinser merchant and not a catalan. I'd like to make a deal to roundup brand that cattle for you wish I could believe you remington. Why shouldn't you believe me on a ranch in my own? And I'm telling you that rounding up and branding takes an expert besides if o'bannon and I can do the job for you and collect dollars. Well we'll at least it made expenses and not leave Rock Springs. Total loses good grief. Man What have you got to lose high can right along with us and make sure you're getting what you paid for. It's right at that. All Right Boys. You can start around up branding tomorrow morning and Prod Night. We were right on hand to watch you Dixie once even give me a chance to explain. Why don't you think you've explained enough? You're going to do exactly what my father wanted to be. A four to help della handy take possession of three thousand acres nine hundred hit a catalina paid full. My dear lady. Got a good reason for donate. If you don't stop to think of the time of the year it is you get some ideas only. Stop trying to alibi yourselves. Maybe we'd all be a lot happier me you this much. I'm GonNa pay you back someday and show the world that a pair of double dealing lowdown back button. Snakes Youtube really are since. That's all I have to say to you. You can get out of here now. I'm not sure your face again till it's time for your roundup New Zealand and the whole over here to the fire. We're all ready to France are. Are you sure this brand design will be all right for you? Mr Jilani jury say so late very little trouble design triangle. Cross is unusual. You won't find twice within a thousand miles a year ovine. It's not taking the brandy. Who's GONNA hold new brand? I'd better here the canton Cherokee. You look almost worn out already. Only reason I look worn out is I am worn out. Did you ever see a branding before? Oh this is my first for mercy sake when you stop conversing calf yarn red hot okay. Turkey don't forget the instructions. I gave her once over lightly. Okay I'd here we go all right Jerky slap on that brand because once we get this one done. We still got ninety. Nine hit unaware that Brian Ross. Now believe me might work. Branding hundred steers. Well with the money. Della Handy was supposed to. This was late in dark by the time we'd finished so we arranged to have had come back the next morning to cut out his cattle and drive them over. It was on Anka's but just before handy was dual jerky and I paid another. Call on dixie boggling crazy I should I go out to the chorale while you gloat over delivering one hundred hundred still Cadillac. Adela Handy look young lady. Y'All coming out to witness the delivery whether you want to do so make up your mind that. What are you talking to that point? I know who I'm talking to Miss Dixie Baldwin. She's going to make sure that della had he gets only the cattle wearing his own brand. You can talk all you not going out to the corral. Heck you're not young lady. Jerry grabs shoulders now. We're carrying Miss Baldwin corral cells. Go back the conclusion of this story of Frontier Town from March thirteenth. Nineteen fifty-three comes up in four minutes. You're listening to Classic Radio Theater. 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You know like one of these Cadillac wearing a triangle. Cross the same categories brand for you yesterday. What are you talking about Joe Cattle? He's got to be your cattle. You'll let that so call assistant of yours here. Watch them overnight did not. Magicians must've Donnie. I don't know what's going on. There must be some steak mistake. They can't possibly be and what's more you yourself gave Miss Baldwin receipt for one hundred head of cattle right after the brand. But these aren't my capital. Well I must admit. The hundred headed penned up in here are wearing the two bars brand. Maybe you moved your cattle during the night while we weren't around you think I'm crazy or something. I'm sure I don't know but since you admit these aren't you'll cavalier You might just as well be on you. I mean I don't know how you did it but you would like me. I did. Let me tell you this much and not going to get away with it but maybe I have gotten away with Adele Abby. It seems to me that you've already signed receipt for the delivery of your so-called taking a catalyst morale anyhow driving that hundred head out of here. I want you to Mehta. You're going to Russell Miss Baldwin's cattle both pace and I'm taking what's rightly mine. Ella Andy. You just made a couple of steaks. The first mistake was calling me a thief and the Second House tried to steal cattle. Nothing but filthy crooked one sentence going to finish wake up. Got Another send you can finish. What's run about fifteen years all right fair? If you can come out of those which is now. I'd come on sheriff. You saw della had tried to take one hundred head of cattle that were wearing his brand and I know that you know exactly what to do with cattle rustlers have not even gone to apologize to you all sad and did to Dixie. But will you please explain to me how you got away with that hocus pocus? When I saw your brand the cattle would della Handy's ran myself. There's all we did was cold brand. 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And you're listening to Classic Radio Theater on your favorite station and now we get to part two of my part yours truly Johnny Dollar Story. The Clinton matter this one a fire of suspicious origin that the only person thinks suspicious is johnny dollar this episode Originally Broadcast March Thirteenth. Nineteen fifty six from Hollywood. It's time now for Johnny Miller veins. How's it going? This warning beat up again. Advise you to do. The same. Can't very well do that. The city of Clinton has filed claim for their school building. I have to make an investigation. Fucking off crowd Mr Dollar. What do you mean them all into admire you? But I think you're fully good luck just a minute. Not only did a school building burned down yesterday but man died in that fire. There was something wrong with it. I want to get to the bottom of it. I expect help from you too. I'll stay here and now I hear from you tonight. And every Weekday Night Bob Alien to transcribed adventures of the man with the action packed. Expense Account America's fabulous freelance insurance investigator. Truly Johnny Dollar. I'm an expense accounts but by special investigator Johnny Dollar to United Adjustment Bureau for Eighteen West Sixty first New York City the following an economy have expended yours during my investigation of the Clinton matter. That's Clinton Colorado expense account item five eighty cents telegram to dot and Company. Denver insurance brokers would handle the policies covering the new school building and Clinton I requested them to forward copies of the policies. I six tenths cents. One copy of the Clinton Times and the full story on the fire. It was believed by fire. Chief Hanley that the fire had started because of overheated boilers in the heating system. And that's right. I'm an insurance investigator. What can I do? Tell me about the fire yesterday. You sound like you're carrying a chip on your shoulder. We had word that building. Regularities were suspected in that school chief. The word came from the janitor. Julian Osborne he burned to death in that fire yesterday and the buildings gone. Now you get head up as you want a boy and I got my own troubles. I'll tell you what we think and you can take whether you like it or not. We think Gold Union is Ben might have passed out drunk or a heart attack in that building. We think something like that happened in the boilers kept right on going and build up the pressure. We think the boiler exploded the fire started. And that was that. Why do you think the whole place one time? Because it's spread so wide it spread. I didn't build building. I just took care of fire. You're going to have to change your attitude around here. If you want anybody to cooperate with you. Then tell me this. Why on a day when school wasn't in session with those boilers be fired up at all. I don't know chief last night. I talked to Sheriff. Dorothy trying to get information about Julian Osborne. He didn't know anything either. I also talked to Florida Hawkins. The school principal. She didn't know now. You don't know anything who does I've done my job. Boy I've determined you've also given me a chance to look at you. Which was about the only reason I came. I'll get information elsewhere. Chief the some people in this town of WanNa talk and tell me things you'll and your sheriff and whoever else is involved can't keep every month in this town shut and I'll tell you like I told him his Hawkins and the Northern Hotel in case you remember anything. I can't hear you go boy not one expensive items seven dollar eighty breakfast in the coffee shop at my hotel for myself and David Bain who still badly battered from the beating. He'd taken the night before you're taking a chance sitting here with me up. You realize that AM I. I'm public enemy number one in this town. I'm the man who built the school. That didn't stay up brains. I want you to tell me all about it. If you have any information or knowledge that would be helpful in this investigation. Then you'd better give out with it right now. What specifically do you WanNa know? I The town. You know what this place is a backyard. Only the rich kids can play here. Vickery Hanley Dorothy. Those are the rich kids. Mr The rest of us are well. We live across the tracks. Let's start with victory. He's a builder. Not only here all over these mountains. Grand Junction rival all over. He's got a million dollars in a million angles. He's the one who sent me to Europe to study per year. After I completed my plans for the new building. Got Me out of the way. Okay far chief Hanley. A friend of bakeries in any friend of victories is going to get rich one way or another sheriff Dorothy. He keeps the law orderly for victory very necessary. Okay the fire itself Chief Hanley says the school boilers blew up on caused the fire. There was no reason for those boilers to be fired up. No reason if they were fired they were fired to blow up. They had automatic shelf equipment. What ABOUT JULIAN ASPIRIN? You say notified the broker in Denver. That something was wrong with the building. And that's how you got here. I don't know it might've fired it for money to told you. I was in Europe until they constructed it. I got back in Clinton four days ago. I went over to see my building. They use my outside drawing dollar wooden. Beams where I indicated steel girders. Only half the plumbing and heating system mother things look like. They've made it up as they went along that you talked to anybody about the contracting victory victory. He told me to keep my mouth shut and be a good boy. Think he got you out of town during the construction so you wouldn't interfere. I think so. I'm not important but it was the easiest way I understand. Mr Victories. A little unpopular today on delegation went out to his house to hang him or something. Baynes was partially right delegation. Had gone out to see. Roy Victory and his Polish prime domain at the end of town. There was still there when I drove up in my rented car. Twenty or thirty irate citizens is demanding an explanation for the law school ten uniform men from Sheriff Doherty's office formed a half moon. Circle is one of the main entrance hostess. Unbuckle the sheriff himself was directing the operation. I just sheriff Johnny Dollar. I talked to you last night. Oh Yeah Cheap. Hanley called me about you achieve called you and last night you called flooring Hawkins. That was nice. Keep the wires burning. Chief said you came over to seem used. Abusive language. Tried to cause trouble. Chief was mistaken. I wasn't trying to cause trouble. Sheriff there's enough of that in this time. I was just trying to find out how the fire started yesterday. She told you it started. I didn't believe him. Now what do you think of that? You Better Watch your step around here Mr Dollar. You seem to be looking for arguments all the time at all. Sheriff I'm misunderstood we under Samuel Vickery. He's all right and he's going to stay all right I'm sure he will. These people don't like this school burning down. It's expensive also. Their kids could have been in it. I WANNA see Mr Victory about that. Isn't seeing anyone missed a dollar and we aren't letting anybody in to see him in any you'll people here that are look here lesson folks. Listen to you look listen. I'm an insurance investigator. I'm worried about what happened. He is school yesterday. Quiet they tell me Mr Vickery built at school the architect who designed it said it wasn't built a his specification us now. I want to go in and ask Mister victory about that. The share of here doesn't want to do that. Stoller wait a minute. The sheriff just said I'll get you for this. Please please listen to me. Listen I'll put it to the sheriff again so you can all hear sheriff. I WANNA to go in and see Mr Vickery on Business. So go ahead. Thank you and a direction from sheriff guarding the Wedge of Deputies opened up long enough for me to walk through the wrought iron gate and up the steps to the victory mentioned. A tall man in a white jacket. Answered the door into a den that was stocked with liquor and big. Leather chair is finding a big man in a blue suit walked in. He had lots of good teeth. And there wasn't an ounce of fat on his two hundred and thirty pounds Roy. Victory was quite an act with shift. Darty just now. I watched you from upstairs. That's a good safe place to watch from his victory now the jury and what can I do for you? Tell me everything you can about that. School building is the city. Clinton made a claim you. Yes two hundred thousand dollars building and contents town pretty fast. We heard that might be something wrong with that building before the fire. Apparently that was Who told you a thing like that? He's dead now you know. Oh to boilers exploding. There's something wrong with the building. Is that the way you people figure. Yeah we'll soda. We and we couldn't find anything wrong. Who's we officially with the Civic Construction Department? We just had a meeting. We thought we ought to. Yeah Yeah I figure. Those people hanging around outside should be worrying. They don't worry mean you don't worry me a drunken janitor goes to sleep and led the boilers kicked up and the joint blows apart and burns down. We decided in the meeting. Terrible accident will have to use an old garage or something for a school. But then we'll get around to building another school with the insurance money we have coming. And that's that adds that victory like a copy of the specifications that went into that building. Okay that'll do good. Now you can get out of my house dollar. You smell smoke. Fifty pages of specifications on the building materials used in the construction of that school. They looked alright. They also looked as though they could have been forger expense account item eight six dollars a bottle of whiskey for David Bain's and myself and my hotel room Baines went over the specifications page by page. Okay what do you think? He's specifications more or less. This is what's on paper that went into the building. How about what actually went into it is soil. They cut corners everywhere. The outside was just a shell of this stuff. You're sure these MIS. I remember this much. Can you remember it in front of a notary? I WANNA sworn statement. I don't know you want no look at me that way. You're going to get my statement and possibly have a dozen other statements on paper. You'd have a case. Then what would you do go to the District Attorney? We haven't gone a district attorney. We got a county attorney who's elected for four year. Turn Right. I'll go to him victory then I'll go to somebody else. The Insurance Commission. You try to go any farther. They'll kill you. Let me worry about that. Now what do you make a statement? Sorry kill me too. And that's the way matters stood Clinton Colorado twenty four hours. After the new school building had burned down a man had died in the flames. Everyone's seen all was all wrong but no one was willing to do anything. About dollar dollar Roy crane specification. Yes I did very thoroughly. I think they're fakes Mr Victory. I didn't ask you your opinion but you've done it well. I'm sure you're entitled to it when when you leaving town. Not for a while. I was hoping you'd be leaving like in about an hour. Make good connections then. Sorry I haven't really gotten around as much as I want to. I can tell you anything. I'll get around to you again out of town dollar vickery. There are times when I don't hear good now. 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That's eight five. Four five zero three seven. Three three is our toll. Free number This is the live Monday night edition of free. Talk Live where we'll take your calls and your thoughts on almost anything and tonight I am your host. The Reverend Captain Kick Ass in joining me is Ian and nobody. Nobody the future governor of New Hampshire in the house tonight. We'll get his thoughts on some things going on. Specifically the current governor of New Hampshire has ordered that restaurants bars shift to a delivery and takeout. Only business modest. Shame I did expect better from this particular governor on this and I have been proven wrong. He didn't even hold out. I think he within the first five or ten governors to issue a similar order like this. So sin what was his authority. Does he claim an executive order. Whatever that is yeah. What's an executive order? That's not a thing I think it's the thing with states it can and I don't know legality of them are. I haven't seen anything in in the state constitution about it. I have read the State Constitution. I don't remember seeing any such mcgarity laid out. We'll get a little bit into that. But I just wanted to cover the timeline real quick so since Saturday night when I was last in one of these chairs here it right at the Free Talk Live Studio where we this program. Talk Laugh. Yeah seven nights a week. We we do this. Show rotating hosts and whatnot. But since Saturday night's the hostile really rotate that much. We all stay facing in the same direction. And when you're not looking I tend to do the spin around thing. Okay see I don't even watch we. But since Saturday the entire state of Washington is implemented this exact same thing. State-wide shutdown restaurants bars limit size of gatherings etc. That happened and I'm way more than familiar with that because I most recently Lived in Seattle before relocating to New Hampshire That happened and then a little later. Sorry was that just Seattle or the whole state of watch the whole state of Washington. Yeah though state of Washington. What states don't have these restaurant restrictions at this point? Oh I don't really the relevant but I can tell you that. Canada apparently is closed except for any the exceptions for US citizens so they`re. They've closed their borders. Nobody that's a Canadian citizen or not. That's not a Canadian citizen or US citizen May Enter Canada. Apparently that happened. I just happened upon that earlier this morning. A little while later I happened upon an article about a Nashville Abar refusing to close amid corona virus concerns and The owner of that bar just happens to this heroic kid rock It doesn't sound like it from the way the article reads it. Sounds like kid rock? Licensed his name to this person. I the way the the story I I read was like the owner of kid. Rock's bar well. This isn't the same thing as kid rock. Who owns this bar? It's Oh yeah. Other guy is worded incredibly strangely. It says the owner of Kid Rock's big ASS Honky Tonk rock and roll steakhouse. That's the Damn Kid rock's big ASS Honky Tonk rock and roll thank us in Israel said. He is refusing to follow mayor. John Cooper's plan to shut down all bars in the city's tourist hotspot lower Broadway Broadway during the current virus pandemic. So that happened and then of course just minutes before. I was preparing to come to the studio tonight. This popped up on my feet. And that's the governor of New Hampshire Orders New Hampshire restaurants and bars to shift to deliver take only effective apparently midnight tonight for some reason. I don't understand how anybody can do that right. Okay I'm in government. I Hereby Order Your Business to only operate within the narrow parameters. That is an interesting question right so like there is the legal question of what is an executive order as far as even within their system. And they're stupid rules and all that. Is it a strong suggestion or is it backed by the violence of the state? Meaning will they send men with guns against a group of people who decide they wanna get together and give free hugs to one another in the park or something like that and if so what are they going to charge his people with? I mean you have to have an RSS orderly conduct. You'll come up with something you know. How the Is maybe they'll come. I don't think it fits disorderly conduct. They'll tell you to disperse and then if you don't it will be trespassing or something like to cook something up. Yeah it's it's one of those days where I don't know what to start with. I don't know which direction to take all of this. Everything has happened very quickly on Saturday. Yeah I want to start with New Hampshire. I'M GONNA ask because that's where we're at. This is the place where I said. Actually in the fork fest group the Other Day when Massachusetts a twenty five person meeting restriction right including retailers. By the way so with the exception of grocery stores the rule is supposedly you? Can I have more than twenty five people in your store at any given tall so even though they are unrelated just customers shopping or whatever presume that also includes the employees so. I don't know what that's going to mega retailers but regardless So I said I would be willing to do that not in Massachusetts to violate that provision in New Hampshire. Certainly so it's out there. I don't know under what circumstances it should happen. I don't know if you know people want to gather in the governor's little room that he has there in the State House is and Washington state just to you know central square and keene just to compare it to something. Washington state and I don't know if it's actually on but From what I read. They were considering. Banning gatherings of more than ten people and the first thing trump is recommending that now the first thing that came to my mind is what if you have a large family would if you have eight kids break it up you know. Can you cook out with your family and your backyard? Is that a gathering of ten people who decides these things. It is insane. Yeah now I notice the I. I believe that what I saw before I came in with the order in New Hampshire was Scheduled referred to schedule public gatherings Schedule it you can have a large gathering a flash mob do that. I would love to see a flash mob. Violate one of these things right. Well as far as I'm concerned Forecast is still on. Because there's no one who can cancel? It begins unless the unless the campground guy actually shut his entire campground. And that's prime time business season for sure is right the do. There's a lot of people who are going to be out of business and a lot of people are going to be out of a job salted this the last appraisal layoffs have already happened any of the tech companies a lot of these tech companies particularly if they're funded with either start up money venture capital or private capital they will follow the trends of the market and as soon as the market crashes like it just did they automatically go through this thing where they begin laying people off because Labor is your largest cost and I can say for a fact that this has already happened to tech companies in the Seattle area. Folks have lost their jobs. Service industry workers have lost their jobs. Because with the closing of these restaurants. I got no reason to pay you. You know we're not going to be selling anything. Our DOORS AREN'T GONNA be open. We're not gonNA have any customers so sorry yeah I was working for a start-up when nine eleven happened and we had the day before nine eleven. We had negotiated a new round of of venture funding and nine twelve. They called US up and they were. Just like yeah. We're not gonNA do that As a result of which they ended up they laid off every programmer. They had except me so I was. I was there last guy and I was not happy about it. Yeah I wonder what's going to happen. I wonder what the financial ramifications are going to be. The economy has been arguably teetering for well decades now right. It's a very fragile structure and to have all of this occur as well as the Federal Reserve inject trillions of dollars one point five trillion We'll see where that takes us more coming up. This is free talk live. Bitcoin DOT COM has launched a trading platform at local BITCOIN DOT COM allowing you to buy or sell bitcoin cash via dozens of payment methods. Like pay pal then. Mo Bank deposit remittances or meeting in person with cash. 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DOT FM that's discord L. DOT FM. Yes you're in the right place for the Monday night edition of Free Talk. Live our toll. Free number here is eight five five four five zero three seven three three. That's eight fifty five four hundred fifty free as in freedom. We the the news just keeps breaking. We've been talking a little bit about the timelines Saturday of the craziness in the shutdowns that are happening. The governments are ordering people to do things in an unprecedented speed and pace and Just now this came. Across as corona virus spreads six bay area counties are ordered to shelter in place. That's San Francisco. California folks shelter in place is pretty extreme thing. We'll talk more about that in just a minute. Yeah I you know. Now's a good time captain and everybody else to really start taking crypto currency seriously. You know if especially for somebody who is actually taking this thing seriously. I'm personally not taking it that seriously. This whole corona virus scare but a lot of people are and so. Maybe you want to form of money that you can use without having to touch somebody else in transfer around Pieces of paper like the olden days. This is a good time to encourage people to make that switch to crypto currency like bitcoin. You can go to BITCOIN DOT COM to learn more about bitcoin and bitcoin cash and cryptocurrency in general there at Bitcoin Dot Com. Yup I agree you know. I've taken cryptocurrency pretty seriously myself because of my personal philosophies in my desire to live as a principal human and you know as a technology guy I've worked in technology I'm a technology enthusiast. I can see the benefits of it and I can see how money with features definitely replaces money without features. So I am. I am all for that. And perhaps with the Federal Reserve announcing. They're injecting one point five trillion dollars into the economy thereby deluding the already weak power of your purchasing dollar and an additional seven hundred million dollars in what they call quantitative easing which is just another fancy way of saying. They're injecting more money into the economy there thereby diluting your purchasing dollar even further but I repeat myself crypto currencies seems to be at least for the moment a safe haven and one that is outside of the control of governments. That's the key around the globe. Yeah that's the key and something else that I've been talking recently with about some of the people. In the crypto world is the stable coins as an alternative solution to actually having bank accounts. Because whenever you have your dollars in a bank account You are always subject to having that confiscated right Whether it beeps some government agency or the Bank itself that wants to To snatch the money for whatever reason they can do it however if you have converted those dollars into stable coins you keep some of your money still in dollars to pay bills with but stable. Because you can you can use that and COMP- keep your dollar value completely outside of the government system and still have dollar value and the stable coins are pinned to the value of whatever current. See the plane back into your currency or commodity commodity. Okay Yep you can. You can have silver gold pork bellies back. A stable coin Bellies would be awkward. But that's why people don't usually use park bally's this money. We did float the idea and by we. I mean me on Saturday about a token that is tied to the value of one square of toilet paper. Pt At any rate this article from the Los Angeles Times out of Menlo Park California. This is published roughly fifteen minutes ago. Six counties in the San Francisco Bay area will be placed under a shelter in place directive by public health officials in a bid to slow the spread of the virus a move that will close virtually all businesses and direct residents to remain at home for the next three weeks. Now I don't know about you guys but I keep reading about how most Americans can't put their hands on one thousand dollars now. Even five hundred most folks are literally living paycheck to paycheck no matter what their salaries because people just do that they have within the means that That they have available to them. I can't imagine how many people are going to break financial Ho. Yeah a lot of people. This is going to be really bad San Mateo Mayor. Joe I can't cities are going to be the worst Joe Goethals Gate Oh? I don't know how you pronounce. It said he believed that. The order announced in a pair of news conferences Monday afternoon. Put Six County San Francisco Santa Clara San Mateo. Marin Contra Costa and Alameda on perhaps the most restrictive public L. footing anywhere in the US since the outbreak of the potentially deadly corona virus. This reads to me like martial law. That's what's happening. That's really what's happening. I mean I can't read this any other way. They're not specifically stating that military. Police are going to be stationed that the National Guard has been activated. They're not stating any of this. But one has to wonder what's going on in the background. What if somebody decides to defy this order and keep their hotdog stand on the corner open or their coffee shop or their computer store or whatever it is. Yeah well that's happened in Nashville. So it'll be interesting to see how the Nashville authorities respond to Kid Rock's threats that title for that restaurant Hilarious. Yeah Yeah I'M GONNA stick with kid. Rock's verbose restaurant should change the name to kid rock's verbose restaurant if that guy actually holds to what he's saying and again. I'm not familiar with what exactly was was said there in Nashville And if there's been like Tennessee wide similar Demand this point and has this guy crumbled or is he still holding firm. I think it'd be interesting to see if we can get him on. We can call down to the I'm sure the businesses of published number. You can call them up. And ask Lynch Sean. Unless you're GonNa Directory Assistance for Kid rock big ASS HONKY. Tonk rock and roll. I should do that in the southern accent. Kid Rock's big hockey tonk. Rock and roll steakhouse in Nashville Tennessee. Cities REFUSING TO SHUTDOWN BLAH BLAH BLAH. Tmz UPDATE KID. Rock's Nashville Bar will close over the corona virus after all co owner finally caves. Did he did get a little pressure from the authorities. Say Question This is tmz reporting that Nashville Honky. Talk says it kid rock's Nashville Honky. Tonk says it will not shut down over the over. The Corona virus despite the city's orders an update looks like Steve Smith who is the owner Had A change of heart and about twenty hours time. The restaurant tour has reportedly caved to public pressure. Now does that mean pressure from the state a lot of times when the word public is yes. That's what it actually means governor in fact He will be closing up all his bars and restaurants including kid rock big ASS honky. Tonk steakhouse so are there any business owners who are Going to this and what are people can eat. I sure hope. So eight fifty five four fifty free like freedom more coming up after this gold has definitely been on the move recently and there is no more secure. Investment Historically mcilveen. Ica's been helping. People take delivery of precious metals and find storage options for decades. They've helped thousands of investors with their precious metal. 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Free Eight fifty five four hundred fifty free like freedom. This is the live Monday edition of Free Talk. Live coming to you from our keene New Hampshire studio tonight. It's myself the captain. It's in and nobody. Nobody the future governor of New Hampshire. We had Some news from the current governor of New Hampshire that we've touched on. Apparently he's decided to jump on the closing of Businesses Bandwagon and order New Hampshire restaurants and bars a to close other than for delivery or takeout. And I WANNA know by what authority. He's done that because. I've read New Hampshire Constitution. I've never seen any I. I've never seen any part of it. That could authorize governor to do that I would come out with this like Like a press release or a statement saying demanding to know. And then saying you wouldn't do that. Yeah that's probably a good idea like I don't have any scientific opinion on the corona virus. All I know is that people have a right to make their own choices. Right and Darwinism works because people who make good decisions live and people who make bad decisions STI- so that's like part of how the universe works and we have to let people continue to make their own decisions both good and bad and I'm GONNA support freedom over safety personally every single time Simply because it's to me the most important reason why we're here like what's the point of living if you're only living under some sort of regime telling you what to do telling you how to live telling you when you can go out telling you what you can have telling you how many people that you surround yourself with. What is the point of that? It's not I'm John. Not just here to suck air. I don't know about the rest of you. Yeah I'm not either. Let's let's go to your calls and your thoughts. We have a Semenov. Who's joining US tonight? Through our core channel at discord dot dot FM Simonov or Semenov can use acne. Can y'all hear me we can. What's going on and that much guys Well kind of firm back to which we're talking about Have you seen the story coming out of Kentucky of the man who was confirmed to have corona virus? Who is now being put under Armed Guard? Because he did not want to. Fourteen himself Yes I have seen I. I'm not aware of this. Please tell us more. Yeah pretty much. He defied their quarantine order. I think it was two or three times and pretty much. The local police department has out pretty much. Put Him under defacto house or under. That is amazing. What do you know about it? Nobody nothing more than that. I've I heard the headline. Yeah it was where the headline I mean I think and I talked about this a little bit off the air with the guys here in the studio when these things occur like this and you start seeing politicians jumping on the bandwagon of other politicians actions. It's to make themselves feel and see more important than they actually are but generally what happens. Is Things get a lot dumber than they are currently when you start see seeing politicians sort of bandwagoning together On these types of decisions and not only more dumb they can also become more violent as well especially if we start seeing checkpoints in the streets and other restrictions involving government agents all over the place. Doing who knows what searching asking for papers. I mean we're right around the corner from that Semenov if you want to watch that story for US and as it updates Let us know what happens We would appreciate it. That's a very interesting thing to keep an eye on from my perspective because it is one of the questions I have. Which is if one of these government agents governor a mayor. Whatever the president's whatever if they make a decree in order and somebody doesn't follow it. Well what exactly happens? Most people don't WanNa test that to find out and that's one of the things I was GonNa talk to you about today is. I've heard Joel mentioned several times. Are Pro abolishing police And that's actually an argument that I've had for a while on that. A lot of people don't like And so my question for y'all is in this sort of situation. What should what should take president? I'm a big believer in freedom over safety by. What would y'all do if y'all were in charge in situation like this to stop this from spreading? I mean I being being the guy who's running for for office. I guess I'll feel that and I would. I would advise the citizens of my state to take whatever precautions. They thought were necessary. And proper to their own safety and the safety of others But I would not be the guy to tell them what those should be. Governors are not scientists. They're not doctors and we do. They don't have magical ways of knowing what they're hearing knowing whether what they're hearing is true or not and I'm hearing a lot of conflicting accounts on how rapidly the virus spreads on how deadly it is. Yeah we're getting all this information from governments anyway. So what amazes me is one of our co hosts. Chris Wade tonight was that are crypto. Meet up and taking this very very seriously seemed very concerned about all this and I'm like look. The numbers aren't even anywhere near the flu. And maybe they maybe they will be. I don't know I mean. We don't know what the future holds. That much is for sure but otherwise I don't really see the reason why people are freaking out besides the fact that some people are freaking out. Some people are freaking out in the government's using this as an opportunity to crack down. And it's it's working well and it's the it's the government. So they're the ones who distribute the information and so they can shoot it however they want you to adjust whatever they want to actually in the media will just snap it up because well. They're in the government's pocket anyway and beyond that it's fear and that's what they sell and the thing that we have to remember is it looks very much like this virus was to begin with a government project Now there's some disc- There's some disagreement as to whether it was a US government project or Chinese government project but nobody governments cooks up. Cook up viruses and labs. That's just nobody else does that. Yeah and to to say that you know what I do. If I were in charge I mean I would do the exact same thing. I'm doing right now right. Try to make information available to people to you. Know Point them to resources that they might not otherwise be aware of talk about what's going on help folks to make educated decisions for themselves right. There's no reason for somebody who you know. Obviously a mayor right like they're not a medical biologist. They're not a viral specialist for them to Begin Jumping on the bandwagon of shutting down their cities and their cities businesses. The livelihood of the very people is just insane because they want to feel as if they are in charge and Ahronoth Authority instead of presenting. You facts information that you can use opening up resources that you might be able to otherwise US and put to use for your family and your friends in your community and all this is probably going to do is continue the welfare state. I mean Jabber all these people and can't go to work. They're already talking about instituting. Ub I in some places and if you don't know what that is it's universal basic income. That's a three letter acronym that was developed some time ago for somebody's campaign. This is the actionable things go. Also I'd have to say that that's a lot less objectionable than dumping the same amount of money into the stock market is. They've already done re. This is not the time to be redistributing money from poor people to rich people and that's exactly the Federal Reserve did when money into the Stock Market. And every time you bail out of business a bank or anything else. They're taking money out of the pockets of people who are already suffering and they're giving it to rich people and that's the first thing that needs to freaking stop Shamanov. Thanks for the call tonight. Eight hundred fifty five four fifty free like freedom. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three. If you WANNA call in and give us your thoughts this is free. Talk Live where you can take control more coming up. We've all seen and perhaps use the alcohol based has sanitizers. Have you noticed? Howard drives your skin and as soon as the alcohol evaporates. It's no longer effective G. Cnn team dot com has alcohol free antibacterial soap and foam meeting or exceeding all requirements set forth by the United States Food and Drug Administration. 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But we'll talk about that another time Right now let's Beaver Bucks Beaver Butts Bucks to talk about it now Gene just hang on We're going to go to Jean. The Christian anarchist in just a second strip club points. Yes so imagine a strip club that makes their own currency for use only within the Strip club. Yeah it's called beaver bucks so you can actually play with like a credit card. And they'll give you like twenty actual dollar beaver Bundler so you can put them in the strippers destroying or whatever right. But it's obviously like printed on the black and white printer in the downstairs currency your right. It's their own private currency that actually There is a book I read. I think I read it in. Jail called Gogo girls of the apocalypse where was actually a similar similar thing where there is a disease that swept across? America WIPING OUT Society and there is one Like chain of Strip clubs that stayed around and they issued scrip for lap dances and because they were a chain it became a currency like a national currency. They were all trading lapland. Seaver bucks come to life. Yeah and you know anybody who wanted one of these things could always trade a lap dance for it because you know anybody with but can do a lap dance and with that. Let's let's say way over to gene. The Christian anarchists calling in on our discount channel. Gene can here's yeah. I'm I'm beginning to think that we're in Bizarro. World IS ANY SOUP. Any old superman fans know what that means. I can't I'm with him where everything is upside down and backwards and inside out and are very bizarre More people are going to die from this panic and all of the economic result than are going to die from this virus and anybody who wants to challenge you on. That can talk to me in about thirty days. And we'll see just how many people have died from this and totally. You're absolutely right about that. Are How do you think the panic is going to kill? People well shortages people not getting their medications that have serious health issues. food There's going to be rioting. I mean there's a lot of ways for people to die in a downturn and that's a that's coming our way and let's face it. The economy was already kinda crappy right. The reserve is out of out of AMMO. Now they're down to zero percent interest. Where can they go from there? You know interest rates yes spend proposed. We'll pay you this month. And we'll see hyperinflation but what I want to point out. Is the the page at John Hopkins? University that's Tracking all these illnesses. And I think there's some accurate information there but if you look at How the different countries that the worst the worst countries ones I had the most China and Italy and they're doing lockdowns but what you don't see if unless you lookin' those numbers you see two countries to little countries that took totally different approach. And they're doing quite well. And that would be Japan and Taiwan. I mean Japan. Yeah Japan Taiwan because what they did in Taiwan first of all Taiwan does not trust China. Never has obviously since they were does and so. When Taiwan got wind of this new virus in Wuhan they instantly started screening. All flights coming out of that area. They wouldn't let anybody off the plane until they went in and checked people for the health conditions and then they monitored those who were sick and they did a quarantine of individuals rather than quarantining of cities and big geographical areas and stopping all of the restaurants and Taipei and Taiwan have done very very well on on controlling this virus. And they're using exactly the opposite tactic that dumb. Donald Trump is trying to use by locking things down now I would point out that trump originally resisted this tactic but apparently they've twisted his arm and convinced him that That he needs to be a big bully. Just like Dislike China so whenever were copying China? We really need to take a sit down. Take a break and reexamined. What we're doing. That's an excellent point. I also read that the the White House. Press briefing was it yesterday. Saturday had folks were getting their temperature. Taken by arguably some sort of a health official. I don't I don't know whom. But they were actually turning anybody away. They turned away a press person who registered a fever of ninety nine from the press briefing. So it's interesting that the government is taking sort of weird tactics that they're not mandating for everybody else yet. What do you think well? And I don't. I don't think that monitoring temperatures a bad idea. In fact I've I've ordered one of those infrared Gun Things for our office and we will probably be Doing something similar to that people coming into the waiting room. But that's just because we're have if additionally swamps ability now you're GONNA get hurt. We're going to get sued. We'd let somebody in our office with that virus and then it affects other people in our office. Now they're gonNA come after us. Are you a physician's assistant to my remembering correctly or know something medical and the administrator my wife is the doctor and we have Four nurse practitioners. Okay he's running the office so you're talking about turning people away from a doctor's office because they're sick him to the house we would be taking precautions and by that we would be doing there that they would have to wear a mask they would have to be. You know we'd probably set them aside in a different area and we see them individually so no we wouldn't turn them away but we would make note of the fact that this person has a temperature and take precautions against them spreading that disease to other people right so that operates in sort of almost like a triage kind of a thing where somebody shows up arguably as a walk in or they make an appointment and they come in and you have to do some things to figure out you know. Which section do you want them to go in the the? I have a temperature sanction or the don't have temperature section right right and we know of cases where there have been lots of cases where a husband and wife one of them will get sick and one of them doesn't get sick so it's not it's not like there's a guaranteed transmission from you to another person. The transmission rate is very high needs quite high or apparently by the numbers. So you do have to take proper precautions but if you look at places like Japan and Taiwan. They're managing the situation without these drastic measures and its life. I saw a video from guy on Youtube. In Taiwan. Does these you know. Video blogs and think life is fairly normal in Taiwan and they're very close to the epicentre. They're not very far from. Wuhan so and they have a lot of people travelling between Taiwan and mainland so the the route of transmission is is there and yet they've still managed to control it quite well. You make some good points gene. 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That's eight hundred fifty five four fifty free like freedom and we tend to talk about things with the freedom perspective in mind Tonight in the studio. It's myself the reverend captain kick ass at the and nobody and before we say anything else. I have to say this. His name was Duncan Lamp. There has been a story. I brought it in show prep on Saturday. We didn't get to it the Sunday night crew also didn't get to it and nobody and I were talking during the break in saying that we just have to. At least mention. This brought up the article from the American conservative For March fourteenth. That talks about this. The constitution is dead. Was the last tweet ever sent by twenty twenty one year old Dunkin Socrates lamp. His name was Dunkin Limp on Thursday morning at four thirty. Am in Montgomery County. Swat team killed lamp during a violent attack on his family's home in the affluent Washington suburb of Potomac. Maryland does what he gets for saying. The constitution's dead serves him right roof. I did the SWAT team attack. The home as limp was sleeping. The initial county police press release referred only to quote firearms offenses. County Police spokeswoman Mary Davidson into the question. That's what they always do right. I mean almost always unless there's an active hostage situation where they have to be brought out during the daytime They're going to come in at four in the morning five in the morning. Someone that range. The county police spokeswoman at refused to disclose the DETAILS OF LAMPS. Alleged offense or the affidavit used to justify the rate instead she notified me that my press enquiries were being handled under the Maryland Public Information Act which entitles government agencies to delay responding for weeks or months interesting. So nobody can I? This is classic blunder right when when the cops make blunders. The first thing they do is try and delay or cover it up as much as possible. Circle the wagons. Id information turn off the body. Cams lose the footage Epstein didn't kill himself by the way Speaking of lots footage and and and you know I'm I personally. I'm sick of it. I've been calling these people every day on the phone. I call into the dispatch. I was planning on starting to do numbers at the mayor's office today but I got a little sex side. You have the number. I don't have the number the number with me. I don't have it in this thing. But what was the reason? For this rate all day. They won't say except to say that The the most detailed. They've gotten was to say that he was prohibited person. He had for owning Firearms and he was not a felony. Had No criminal record so the only thing that could possibly have made him a prohibited person was that he had a medical marijuana card which he did. Yes so that's my best bet is that they raided him either on her on a red flag call or based on medical marijuana. This weekend Thursday. And it's funny that you ask that because the article goes on to say even the search warrant used to justify. Their aid is reportedly sealed for thirty days. Why would you need to do that? Why why would any government agency need to seal the warrant used for the rate Chronicler Lassen Karenna virus? That's not a reason. Maybe they sneeze has done it. And it's quarantine show. The short of this is well. We'll just just read you. This next paragraph section because it kind of drills down according to Rene Sandler a former prosecutor who is representing the Limp Family Montgomery County. Police fired into the bedroom where lamp and his pregnant girlfriend were sleeping without warning. The gunfire was followed by two flashbang grenades. What are they gonNA claim here because normally they claim I was in fear of my life? And it was stirring to out. I was in fear for my life. God what amazing it really is. It really is and people wonder why we need a Ar. Fifteen four thirty am. Why first of all did you try showing up at dinnertime and knocking on the door? Well it was a high risk search warrant according to the police escorting to their department news release and so all they have to do is claim what we know. He has guns so therefore it's high risk. This is what they're doing in the cantwell case. By the right the former Co host. Who had to fire years ago for becoming a racist he has been targeted by the federal government. They went into his house at three in the morning with a full on. Swat Raid Against Him. They busted his door and even though he has no history of anything. Besides you know one recent conviction for assault and battery and that was at a massive protests that turned into a fight so I mean he's old otherwise been fairly peaceful person he certainly has no gun violence history but the fact that he had guns there. was used as a reason to can not only that but to keep him in a jail cell until trial lamb. You know he doesn't have the guns anyway. So who cares? What was there? The memory of a gun isn't a weapon. Dunkin lamp according to the article was a software developer clearly dangerous. The police handcuffed the surviving family members and his girlfriend while conducting an exhaustive search on the house lamp was pronounced dead at the scene on Friday on Friday evening. The Police Department posted photos of five firearms. None of which were apparently illegal in themselves that they seized during the raid conveniently omitted including a photo of Dunkin lamps blitz. Ridden court. Yes Yep that's true and also the news media wouldn't report that anyway in the United States for the most part they won't print things like that. The police also later modified their story to assert that lamp had quote confronted. The police officer. He just fell into his bed after they blasted. This could simply mean that. He stood up after the shooting took a step towards a window. From where the shots were entering or maybe he was trying to protect his pregnant girlfriend and like jump on her. Get her to the ground or something. The police department has not asserted that lamb had a firearm or any other dangerous device when he was slain. So I mean you can read all about this online. It is a horrifying story. This particular person was a technology person was a software developer. He was self professed libertarian. And near as I can tell straight murdered in his sleep when they do it murders a legal term sits true but but for anybody out here. Who's as outraged as I am? I hope that you'll be calling the district attorney in that county. The mayor of the town the governor of the state the the police department and let them know what you think about this cold blooded murder of an ineffective software developer remember to keep paying taxes. Folks name was Dunkin the lamp his name was Dunkin Lamp. More coming up. We'll take your calls and your thoughts. 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Hi Good evening captain. Crewe indeed what's on your mind. I wanted to make a quick call. And thank you guys for discussing. What I'm what I'm referring to is the Grand Papa Delirium the emergence of all these local state and federal dictators. Or did you call it the GP de the Grand Kupa GRANDPA delirium? I like it. Yeah in any way and the people of course who? Kinda pay attention to that so I'll just make it real quick and remind you that there is no such thing as government. They're only tyrants despots and others sociopaths and so with that I would like to offer the F. T. L. Group For me to send you fifty dollars. They've prevalent you. Don't listen crypto tonight if you can avoid using the word government boy Like I might be able to do that individually. I don't know if any of us that'd be tough one. That is just replaced fifty bucks. I did day at forty nine sixty eight right now. Bitcoin but yeah if If you could do that replaced the word government with tyrants de Sponsor sociopath. I mean just have fun. But who do you think is going to give it a shot? See I knew my bag. Fifty Bucks okay. It's IT'S ALMOST WEIRD. That's like a reverse contest. I've never heard of listeners having a contest for the for the host that hey you know you can use other terms. He'll like criminal gang and stuff like that. Just there's something about this. We're government legitimize. Well we talked about that. It just validates the concept that there are certain people that have a greater Greater place in life that they get to push other people around and steal their money and and otherwise just I don't know get get rewarded for it. It's just nuts to me. Now is Goo- ferment. Okay no I do. I know I know gene gene lakes Guberman. What about the people can't well I might? I might throw fifty cents in for that but there's no. It's this this word. I'm telling you. People have been indoctrinated from their earliest stages to to think of in the back of the mind since government is all psychology in the back of their mind. This thing called government is okay. It's what we need. It's it's important at this. Whole Corona virus situation. Is this group of people trying to reassert that and asserting it in a way that they never have before to see how far they can get away with pushing people and it seems like get away with pushing them to shut down their businesses entirely right. Well you gotta think about get get two different perspectives. There's there's leadership and there's commander ship leadership would be someone who say we employees. We beg you to try these things to do these leaders would you someone going first leadership would be someone who's in business saying you know what I'm GonNa shut down on my own volition. We're going to go ahead and take out the only this and only that. And then that would be leadership government commanders. I can understand that. No you don't listen. There's there's the commander ship you know something like the military where you will do this or there will be punishment you know rather than simply persuasion of and in promoting common commonsense say promoting good reasoning and And otherwise just saying you've ill you feel we are in charge and you do it right and I I would add to your list of things. The Word Authority most folks when they hear the word authority they think of this Organization of goons who just tell them what to do whereas there is an as they think though I mean that's what we think when we hear the word but is that what other people who aren't of sort of the liberty mindset. Think when they hear authority do they instead. Think of like waving flags. Bald EAGLES UNIFORM. No no mine I think of the word of Saudi. And the you'll hear this on the news all the time the authorities said the authorities promoted in and it just makes me ill when here because there's no such thing as human or forty like like respect there is in one respect the only legitimate authority is somebody that you look up to as an expert in a particular field right so you did the right. Yeah he's an authority in at an genome splicing right. Somebody who's very knowledgeable. You come select an authority for yourself. I'm sure not one. That's appointed by a weaponized popularity contest. Exactly if if you decide that they're torture but other people have the choice of saying no. They are not my authority but anyway though the problem is there's a group of people out there who WanNa have somebody as their authority and they've also bought into the idea that it's totally fine to force the rest of us to be underneath that person's control right and that's the beginning so we have to break and that's why you know. People really should not have waited. Come to New Hampshire. I think this is a real kick in the chest For a lot of people like you waited Maybe if you get the chance to move to where other people believe similar to you you ought to really take that seriously at this point. Yeah I mean if when blue combs you know I want to be in a place where I'm surrounded by well armed and a freedom loving into freedom. Loving individuals like minded individuals may not be too late to get out here. Thanks for the call tonight. We do appreciate it. I agree if if now isn't the time then I don't have motivated young eight five five you WANNA GET SLEEP. Five zero three seven three three. That's eight fifty five four hundred fifty free like freedom more of your calls and your thoughts coming up remember when you first heard about bitcoin. How long did it take you to realize this little project would soon change the world? So you kind of wish you got involved sooner. 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We've talked about the government's reactions to corona virus and the overstepping of Perceived Authority Illinois. I just said the word government to oh well. That's alright thanks for I do. Try to make a point of saying like government gangsters criminals the organization known as governments people calling themselves government the armed. This is one of those times where you know like the the V. V. Vendetta movie you know where the Government Goon leader guys. John hurt is yelling about how lead us the need. We must remind them of why they need us. And that's this is really for them. All about it's them positioning themselves as the so-called authorities on all things Health related and boy. If you didn't have them around what would happen. You can't just trust these corporations. Of course ignoring the fact that they are also incorporated. The gang is the mother of all corporations without without without the gang. There are no corporations because nobody else has the power to create them. How I try and point that out to people frequently particularly coming from an area of the country like Seattle where a political leaning is different than it is. Say here on the East Coast But I try to point out that corporations were created by this entity known as the government. It is legal fiction. It has fiction right in the frick. And name of the thing right to tell you that it's it's all it's they don't call it a fiction on paper. It's that's what it has corporation. I believe the definition includes lead his fiction. That's what it is but it doesn't say it anywhere on the paperwork. Well No of course you have to read the definition of the word. Most people aren't gonNA pull at blacks law dictionary. But I'm like I point this out to people and they oh well but still if you take. Corporations will still be corporations. I'm like how yeah. Who's going to enforce that? I mean that's the thing is you have to enforce their could property rights as if they were as if they were people in order for that to happen. So you know. Are you going to subscribe to courts? Treat corporations as people. I probably would not nope so there. You I mean that's that's the death knell of corporate personhood on the West Coast. How far do we get into that piece about San Francisco locking down? Oh we didn't get very busy in Seattle going to pick that up because you know as goes California and a lot of cases west coast Seattle kind of went I at least in my estimate. The total twenty. Four hour lockdown supposedly happening no Francisco. The Seattle Washington State went first with the shutting down of the restaurants in bars and the limiting the size of gatherings. And I it was I think more than three hundred people. And then they reduced it to to fifty and then it was like one hundred and now there's talk of it being reduced to more than ten and then the San Francisco said hold. My beer really shareholder white wine. I guess that's exactly what they said and they went. Oh yeah well we'll just go ahead and put everybody on in order to shelter in place much as they would if there were all. I don't know a hurricane or a large earthquake place. He's been committed a crime and been sentenced to house arrest. That's well shelter in place. The terminology shelter in place started to come out at least noticeably within the last decade plus. Yeah really a lot more than I ever never heard it before that. It's just hide in your bathtub right. It was always used in the circumstances. Where LIKE IN BOSTON? They had the Boston bombing. For instance and They were telling everybody that they had to shelter in place. Which to me. Just sounds like some sort of Orwellian doublespeak or whatever. It's it's just a cover for this is a total police state. You have to stay inside your loans. Martial Law and tire community is under arrest and they literally had the police in fatigues and armored vehicles driving around the streets in the case of watertown Massachusetts. Remember they were going inside people's homes without a warrant just coming into people's homes and going through people's property looking for these people that they wanted and it did not seem like it was a consensual situation at all like they they didn't appear to be asking people if they could go through their homes and I'm sorry but that is a to me completely unconstitutional. Yeah clearly this is not asking and wrong. San Francisco Mayor London Breed said that effective at midnight cigarette would be required to stay at home except for essential needs. The mayor sounds like let's let's say Oh. Yeah I was playing in there momentarily. Except for essentially it's in that all but essential businesses and public services would be asked to close. They're asking well. They would be asked to close at midnight on Monday. The order will rebate order in so the language even of the Earth's Oh newstalk fusing are you asking? Are you please define or are you ordering somebody else to ask? Many people are calling this. The new normal breed said it's the new normal temporarily in an effort to protect public health. One of my real concerns about this type of situation is we know. And we've seen in the past and we see it again. And again that there's nothing so permanent Stamford government program. Yeah and so. They claim all this is temporary. They'll bring it back. They're seeing how far they can go. Even if they do roll this back they will come back with more and they'll make it worse the next time. The next thing will be scarier even though this is really to me any scarier than the flu. Sorry I at least at this point. 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DOT FM for a free bumper sticker flyers banners graphics more Promote Dot L. Dot FM Yes this is free talk. Live the my corona edition. Eight fifty five tour fifty free like freedom. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three with you in the studio tonight. It's myself the captain. It's in the. Nobody formerly known as rich. Paul and two future. They'd be known as the governor of New Hampshire. The Future Governor of New Hampshire former future mayor of keene. I think this governor race website like nobody dot com. I think this governor race can really heat up here if nobody takes a firm more pro freedom response to what's going on here. Governor is who is is shutting down industry. This guy told Steph that he's big in favor of business but he shutting down business. Well I'll tell you what my response my response to this will be is or this sort of thing would be in office is I. Don't know what's best for you. You need to figure it out. This is what I know. This is my cards on the table. This is the stuff they told me not to tell you. I'm going to tell you that. Too and then configure it out because you know that every one of these. These officials is being told. You can't say that you can't show your hand here. All this stuff ends up being classified. None of it should be classified. All of it should be in the people's hands so they can make the best decisions that they can make. Now what do you suppose is driving these officials these government goons who are declaring these orders of businesses to close down? What do you suppose is driving the pound weights fear in and I feel the same thing? I feel the pressure even as a candidate to say. Because you don't want to be wrong you know you don't want to say oh this is nothing and then three years later you know a million people are dead and it's like hi. You said this is nothing so so. I'm not saying that all I'm saying is I don't know but you know I because the expectations on the gang of thugs placed on the gang of thugs. They don't feel comfortable saying I don't know what the solution is here. There's a they're expected to have every solution to every problem. And that's not how any and in my experience they never do. I can't name a problem that an organization of violence known as the government has solved A. Yeah I mean except for people. They don't like being alive which they make them dead. Yeah but but yeah that and to me you know I. I don't think not being liked by the thugs. A good reason that you should be dead. These guys are sociopaths. I mean why. Would anybody want to take their advice? Look at what they told you about a good health. Good Nutrition Remember The pyramid. They had it upside down there like. Oh yeah it should be like this just reverse everything we've ever told. Yeah yeah the floor for three to. I and my mom did that. She was like volunteer on that Ebtekar. She's not a Dietitian or anything. She doesn't know she's she she She passed on what she said what they told her to say. Because you trusted them and she felt badly about that later but You know things happening now. People doing what they're told because they believe that the state has their best interests in mind and they don't I was looking at their stories about parents right like all of a sudden they're being told. Sorry you don't get to send your kids to the day camp prisons anymore right now. We're going to do it right. Yeah two income families where both parents are working right because they have to pay the taxes and now they have to deal with either one person quitting taking leave or finding daycare or finding other date. But they're telling me daycares to Clinton's right well I don't. I see what surprised me is a gathering of more than fifty people. Whatever it is right I mean yeah I I can't imagine they're going to keep daycares. Open Dancing San Francisco the student of total. Crackdown twenty four hour curfew. And some of the details about that Yeah let's say you're right in front of me. Only police and fire departments hospitals grocery stores gas stations banks and pharmacies and restaurants serving takeout and delivery customers will be allowed to remain open under the shelter in place order. The seems to be the most extreme version of what I'm calling a police action This is definitely saying the TMZ version of the story that it is just as extreme as Italy's solution. Italy's lockdown residents will be able to go to grocery stores and other essential services. But you must be stopped asked here going. And why your papers please? He urged residents not to rush. Adding that stores will remain fully stocked. I mean house. I suppose they will is socialism. Do we have we achieved? Socialism will know. Socialism would be state ownership of the means of production. Sounds like if he's going to say it's the streets. There will remain stocked. Well it's fascism in that in that particular case because then it's regulated private ownership of production in this case. The state gangsters owned the streets and the sidewalks so they get to put down clamps on wherever they want checkpoints wherever they want and do whatever they want. Because what are People GonNa do actually like free people and go ahead and open their business anyway reminds me of Cantwell's Nazir's chanting whose streets our streets. That's what's happened is this guys aren't any better than the Nazis of this next sentence. Bugs me but it says. The order further escalates the economic damage caused by Cova Nineteen. The economic damage is not being caused by couvert. Nineteen is so far. All the economic damage has been caused by the reaction. Yes thank you. Where did I did? I hear in California. I don't know if it was San Francisco maybe it was L. A. I'm not sure but they were saying that. The mayor of one of these California cities has declared the right to sort of takeover hotels. For instance. Three yeah there. They wanted to make shift hospital facilities. Yeah they can just apparently commandeer a hotel or a motel or some other you know facility with beds and rooms and that kind of thing and guess what you're out of business. You're now a hospital bed and what happens. After the so-called emergency has passed to they keep all the homeless people. There are all the hotels of California. GonNa turn into homeless shelters. After this I would not be an white as winter is. That'd be horrified. One of these clowns get to decide whether or not my hotel has to close down to make room right. Who are they to close my business right and confiscate it basically? I wonder what the jail looks like right now in San Francisco. How packed up is it? And how much worse is it going to get a lot of? Jails aren't even taking people in now really. Yeah they've they've actually closed the bail conditions. Yeah Yeah I knew. Avoid incarcerated this morning make sense This morning I was going to go down to do the monthly jury outreach and I checked the website. They have closed for jury trials for two months out. Wow so from now until early April and I say two months. It's going to be this month selection in next month's election they are postponed. So what if you're sitting in jail waiting for waiting for trying to sit there for another two months government accident and serving themselves well before they'll ever protect her and you can try to challenge that in the Supreme Corporate? They'll rule that that's still a speedy trial. It's only two more months Apparently the San Francisco Bay area is the region hit hardest by the corona virus in the state as of Monday afternoon. More than two hundred eighty cases have been reported in the six bay area counties of Alameda Contra Costa Millions of San Francisco San Mateo. Santa Clara has got to be like at least ten million fifteen million people. The population of the seven deaths reported in California seven deaths. So that's maybe one in a million people three have been in the bay area to Santa Clara and one in San Mateo. Oh Oh they're talking about all of California counties townie right. Wow Mondays order came from the public. One del Sur county. Yeah so yeah. Those numbers are a I mean. There's more veterans that die every day of suicide. You know there's there's more people I'm sure. Dying of diabetes. Yeah I don't see people. Sheltering in diabetes is going around none of the numbers that they're publishing support what they're doing and the level of panic that they're displaying. Which says to me that either. They're faking up to panic for some reason or they're lying about the numbers it has to be one of the two. Dr Grant Colfax. San Francisco's health officer emphasized. There would be some give in the stay at home directive. 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Live our toll free number here. Of course is eight hundred fifty five four free like freedom. That's eight five five four five zero three seven three three in the studio tonight. It's myself the captain it's An and nobody we've been talking about swell many things Mostly surrounding the government's What I like to call dumb moves of doing everything including What appears to be martial law enacting Sort of orders for businesses to shut down for folks to shelter in place at least in the six counties that comprise the bay area of San Francisco. WE'VE talked about Mr Lamp Who was By all accounts murdered by police while he slept next to his pregnant girlfriend. No it's illegal taking of life when they do it. See their legal. It's okay and one of thousand by the way of likely innocent people That will have their lives taken. You know if you go by the the recent averages as far as the number of people the police murder because I do agree with you. That's a good word But they don't consider it that this is free talk live so let's do what we do here and go to your calls your thoughts. They're gonNA pay raise ugly. Have Logan on the on air call in line Logan. You're on free talk. Live guys appreciate you having me on how you guys doing today. Good thanks for being here. Good so I wanted to ask you guys his opinion on the gun at some of the station proposing right now on the gun. What that they're imposing. You drop a few packets there on the gun. What sorry beyond the gun. Sales restrictions at some stage are proposing to put in effect along with Teens and school closures business closures. Well I would say that. Those are completely unconstitutional. And as governor of of New Hampshire. I would if those were imposed on the city or the or the federal level. I would instruct my forces to resist such unconstitutional action. Within the state of New Hampshire by either city or federal forces. Were what would that be said? I mean how likely you think it would be for law enforcement officers. Do you know at resisting. Temptation to Like we saw you know task. Few days not go on forcibly take people's a second into rights away I don't know what I mean. I there are cops. Who would go either way and there are cops doing it now but there are also cops who I think if they started seeing it be being more widespread Practice would have a come to Jesus moment where they realized that what they were doing is rug. I hope that there's enough Conscience left in in the police that that eventually those of them. Who are doing that those who were out doing things like killing Dunkin lamp Well we'll realize what they're doing is wrong and it's tyranny in their the reason that we need a Ar fifteen's thanks for the call. We appreciate it. We are going to go next to Mr Mortified Penguin. You are on the air. Can you hear the term? Which how you doing pretty good. What's on your mind? Yeah I wanted to call out the kind of caught a bit of the end of you guys talking about authority and everything and and how you know. He's talking to community thority as someone you could choose to see. Somebody's authority on something and It was KINDA WANNA share my thoughts on authority Basically you know I. I came to libertarianism on a largely for listening to this show and I wasn't you know sold on this radical libertarianism. Just based on the fact that the state is the state is bad. State must go away. I certainly don't work from that premise. It in you know move backwards but I thought about it over time. I look more into it. I read into it. I talked to a lot people online and I mean one way you can look at. It is to see authority now authority. Honestly isn't you described it pretty well. But it certainly. I wouldn't say we're using the word authority like I see somebody as an authority on the subject because they have demonstrated you know their their credibility In something and you can you really critique authority by saying West the basis of authority where you know. Why is the basis of someone having a thirty over you well? We voted for them. Yeah they say it's like the social contract only that one to walk no matter how much I'm still waiting to see a copy of it. Yeah I WANNA see evidence that I've signed it anymore like it to me or like you know. Society must have defunct complex society must have it in function. No that's just the way it's been only way it's been tried for you know reasons because certain people benefit or oh. Any rational people would choose to do that. Oh you would sign it voluntary. If you're a rational person well see. I went outside it voluntarily. So you can call me irrational the count me out. I keep reminding you voluntarily opt in something which doesn't really have an opt in option and with has armies in armies and police and soldiers. Is that even possible? Would it be possible? Theoretically Upton put and no way to opt out I mean nothing written. There's nothing written in this social contract or any government documents that say here's how to opt out. Yeah that's all they have to do. Is You know in order to In order to remove the injustice from their system is let people say no I. I don't want any part of you. People just leave alone and I won't be paying any taxes but believe me and if they would actually do that they would be on a much less problematic moral footing yet but you know their functions. Connor require them to put a system down on everyone. It really is you know. It's really the the structure of a thousand organizations. Don't you care about safety? I mean safety is important. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah you can look at the history of every every regulation that is supposed to. I mean there is certainly a group of people that are coming out with. Everybody has all these reasons and I think a portion of them are genuine. But every regulation for some reason seem to be written by the industry that is regulating the top players or not. This one I don't think The restriction on restaurants and bars was written by the Restaurant Association or the Bar Association. I don't think that behind this. One Bar Association is something completely different. Well the Taliban bar so hey thanks for the call tonight. Mortified Penguin Unit. I don't know it's yeah. That's sure this latest thing is probably something that I mean. The people who would benefit like the stock I would be buying would be domino's pizza and any place it's primarily Delivery driven by instinct cartwright the grocery delivery short dash is GonNa be all. Yeah Oh yeah I gotta imagine until they get shot down too bad. They don't take crypto. Yeah you think Uber. Lifts stuff has what's called Uber. Eats which is their version of door dash right. I don't know who came I. I've never used any of them. I'm just wondering what sorts of industries will see spikes in. We'll see some spikes and technology of course as more of these businesses take the safety precautions of asking their pee. More people to work from home and telecommuting work zone. They'll need software tools. Vpn's to accomplish these types of movies. I think big about taking that the royal. I can't remember what it's called the movie theater chain Royal Cinemas Roya They are they. They shut down. They're not going to be in business. So people are going to be streaming a lot of movies. Watch rick and Morty Rick and Morty Dot com what is the most Recession Proof Corona virus proof industry. Give us your calls and thoughts here. Freetalklive more coming up. 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Because bitcoin keeps going down or the price of continues to go up or both. We've talked a bit about What appears to be some sort of Marshall law going down in the bay area of San Francisco counting soon to an urban area near you because if they can get away with it in San Francisco. They're going to get away with it anywhere. They want to put this in place. So get reading the thing that I would say though is so. Many people are misspelling that as martial law M. A. R. S. H. Whatever it's like I really should be. Yeah martial arts. Marta la We we should really hired NAT T. Little bit so people know that we're talking about of or pertaining to the military. I don't want to word. Marshall Marshall Means I three right over and also but in all of our talk tonight. We've talked about Mr Lamp. What was his name is name was? Duncan Duncan Lamp. We've talked a little bit about him. arguably being murdered by police while he slept next to his pregnant girls. I don't think how it could be even argued. I mean if you shoot somebody in their sleep. That's freaking murder Agrees dishes at the part that I forgot or at least I've only breezed over. His apparently Canada is also closed. Yes yeah they flip the center and they said we're closed Apparently they've closed their borders to anyone other than Canadian citizens permanent residents and at least for now. Us citizens so yeah the US citizens are still yeah. That's that's interesting. I wonder why they decided. Us citizens are okay. 'cause DR is Kinda thought they didn't like us. Maybe it's the commerce thing. Let's do what we do here at free talk live and let's go to your calls and your thoughts. We have crypto frontier calling in on the discord on air calling line. You're on free talk live. What's on your mind. Yeah so Tracy Times out there. Yeah no kidding it's bonkers me. We can learn a lot about who we are and who are. Neighbors are in these times of crisis. I was surprised to learn that. The New Hampshire governor is banning restaurants bars and other public gatherings that the case that is true. In fact we had an article from I believe it was the local Boston Station reporting on just that we discussed At the during the first hour so it is true as of midnight tonight. Bars and restaurants are only allowed to serve to go or delivery types of items and they cannot have people gathering in them. So I know that liquor it you know. It's pretty high. Markelle bars generally make most of their money on the liquor sales. So I don't know some of these people are going to stay in business for people are GonNa get laid off and they're not close and you never know how brutal they're going to get on this. I mean I've seen footage of Chinese police and military like breaking into rooms where people were playing. Mahjong like smashing up to tables and just completely destroying the place. 'cause you're not allowed to get together and play. Mahjong in China anymore. We'll guys surprised to hear. I thought free or Die. State be one of the last the fault this chaos. It's very disappointed in you saying recently that I mean normally in these types of situations New Hampshire either waits until seriously normal for this situation. This is completely unprecedented. This has never happened before. I understand about reactions. The government has to things earlier in the week. The governor had said keep getting together. Keep having your gatherings. He hadn't declared a state of emergency and the next day he completely reverses to declared a state of emergency. And then the next day it's Restaurant banned yeah as days later as a guy who lives in this states. I do not appreciate The governor not following the live free or die motto however it's just another illustration of the horrible horrible organization named government that does nothing but violence to other people. I mean it was. It was going pretty well here as well and then suddenly clear state of emergency amid Marin islands for those of you who go on and on Saturday we just had a mirror. And Will Cain Marathon. Marathon people came from Korea Japan all over the country this marathon and the government was. We're not GONNA give into the fear now. It's GonNa be fine than the next day. There was a public health emergency so it also happened pretty fast here although it's not as bad there's no restaurant bands that's good mark. He did put a restriction in on the pricing. So you can't raise prices on almost on a lot of consumer goods and services there in the Mariana Islands. So you guys. Because you gotta figure if you're wholesalers will raise their prices or they'll run out right. I can tell you I bought overpriced hand sanitizer yesterday. How much did you pay paid? Four dollars for what ties announces that normally go for. I don't I don't buy the stuff off. Probably normally and the two dollar age fifty. So are you saying that people are violating the price fixing rule? The government in place could fit right with selling for forty dollars at one store normally. It's about sixteen. Wow so there's no there's no enforcement here for many things so they can say no price gouging. The governor is part of the state of emergency. Said that he's GonNa ban like flights but that's the US F. F. FAA authority to do that. Our flights coming in at this time are people flying instill. There's a couple of airlines. The airlines are canceling flights. There's a time from Japan and united through Guam still has a budget flights. It's been a month by the way since my flight was extensively cancelled and I have yet to receive any kind of compensation. Still haven't got your money to act. Spent a whole Monroe. Yeah crazy but I just keep us Alex on further developments from down there. Do you think mark is going to be able to leave? He and his family are supposed to be flying out of there in another week or so. Yes the tickets are cancelled yet for the family. Currently it's like yeah we're GONNA. America cancelled the play. So we'll see what happens. Well yeah pretty crazy world out there and they say well all right. Alex thanks for the call you know. I think it's going to get more dumb. I just have a feeling that's generally how to find. Honestly I mean it's going to get more dangerous. It's GonNa get more police state. I'M GONNA get more radio friendly with my language but yeah it's going to get worse before it gets better. Eight fifty five fifty free three the next generation Wallace coming from divvy. In just a few taps you'll be able to send earn spend an exchange digital money in seconds. Send send money around the globe with only a swipe instantly exchange between Divvy Bitcoin. Fiat right in the mobile APP. 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Can that kind of thing so every corner then it wouldn't Marshall Lead generally it becomes Marshall when it is literally the military as opposed to the police outright streets but as long as you just put them out as police in they have camouflage uniforms. Then it's totally not Mario. It's not about the color of the uniform. It's about the chain of command. Well let me tell you. It'll still feel like Marshall Law even if it's a bunch of people calling themselves the police. Oh yeah well you can get very you. Can you can have some very police states before you ever get to Marshall We have various politicians telling people what they will and won't be allowed to do under their new conditions for remaining citizen. Apparently we've talked about this happening. In many cities many counties many states across the region known as the United States of America also Canada has closed. Apparently doing the same thing. They're about as we're doing so I think we'll get folks waiting. Can we get we? Do we do so but we will continue to do what we do. And that's go to your calls and thoughts We Have Josh in Springfield Illinois Josh. You're on free talk live all right so I have a question about bitcoin and crypto curbs. So what the price is. Down is right now. A good time to start mining if you're not into mining right now that is a good question I myself. I don't know if I'D BE MINING. Bitcoin but there certainly is. It's difficult to mine. Bitcoin RIGHT WELL. I I would have special equipment. It does and a lot more investment to really get up and running with that specific coin but there are other coins out there that you might as well take a risk on. If that's a thing you WANNA do. I believe there's a website called what to mine and I don't remember what the your L. is but it's called what to mine and it addresses like which crypto currencies are the most profitable. Nice to send your minor too and that might be a good place to start if you're interested in getting into mining but keep in mind. There's a lot of power that most cryptocurrency mining requires. Because it's what they call proof of work and see your computer or your graphics card has to really crank through a heck of a lot of Of Work in that costs money. I cost power power bill money. So unless you've got free power or very low cost power. It may actually be a loser of a game to get into the world of mining. So it's really something you need to look at closely Before you just kind of throw into it in my opinion yeah it says. Don't do it personally. It says you're calling from somewhere in Illinois Josh so. I don't know what the price of electricity is there. I know that There was a bit main opened up a shop out in Washington state because the electricity specifically because the electricity was cheap. So you kind of have to look out for these kinds of things. I don't know if anybody's having success doing solar powered mining I'm told that the maintenance and upkeep of a solar power rig to mine is a bit of a task and that might be preventative to some people but You know as always do your own research you might be onto something. It could be a good time. All right thank you. I'll keep listening all right. Good night. let's move right along to. Let's go to Mike in Gold Bar Washington listening on K. K. W. Mike. You're on free talk. Then are you going tonight So I live out in gold. Are you know where that's at on the way too fast? Okay So it's pretty much a ghost town right now even skiing this weekend and there's a lot of snow up on the past. Nobody Stopping on the highway on the way home on Sunday. But I wanted to tell you about my martial law experience when I was younger and then army. I was in Korea for a year ago and that was in the early eighties and that was not long after whoever their leader was was fascinated. There's something I can't remember there was riots and everything so there was martial law and order and I don't know if it still is but three couple of experiences. One day would come on the buses literally the rock soldiers with machine gun and check. Everybody papers you know. In case somebody. Who's defecting and I was way up north. The other thing they did from time to time they would blackout the entire country literally. It was the law to turn out your lights like to stimulate a bomb raid. Just like the whole country was practicing and then the other thing. I was out past midnight after I was enjoying a drunk and disorderly evening on the down and I was literally drug to the station by the Rock. Soldiers and I wasn't prosecuted. I just Kinda lot of grasp or Because my first sergeant major of it but those were three things that happen just in a year So I think that here but I think if this thing gets any stupid like you're saying it could start getting to where they are like you know like our bars are still open here but I think it's a matter of time before that's not going to be happening Wasn't there was some news out of Washington State? I thought I thought it was out of the whole Washington Steele. Let's take a look. Maybe it's just. They're still open today. 'cause like here in New Hampshire. There's still open today but at midnight tonight the order goes into be inslee. Stay interesting here anyway. I'll let you guys go. Thank you thanks for the call have yet to have a good night It says here governor inslee statement on state-wide shutdown of restaurants bars and limits on size of gatherings expanded so this is in the state of Washington governor. Jay Limit was expanded. I suspect that means it will actually be INCR- as far as it's increased the the It has lowered the number of people that can be together. I'm specifically restaurants will be allowed to provide takeout and delivery services but no in person dining starting as permitted. We know when the six effect immediately tonight okay. Barcelo March Fifteenth Twenty Twenty. That would have been last night. That march fifteenth was yesterday. So maybe that's what this Maybe when he says they're still open he means you can still go. Do take out. This is from the Washington governor website itself. So I don't know how much more of an official outlet I mean. They're all still open in that. You can do takeout supposedly right. Can I be the disobeying? Well if so I WANNA know who they are. I WANNA know which business owners are actually disobeying this so we can thank them for their service. 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