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Still Buffering: Veruca Salt "Eight Arms to Hold You" (1997)

Still Buffering

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Still Buffering: Veruca Salt "Eight Arms to Hold You" (1997)

"Hello welcome to still buffering. A cross generational guide to the Culture. That made us. I'm Riley smirl I'm Sydney Maccarone. And I'm Taylor smirl. Well how are you all doing? That's the answer to animal crossing doing. Okay I mean pretty good day so far I said hello to one cat and then I looked at the other cat and said hello to that cat and they went back to the other cat and said hello to that cat. Drinks coffee at the whenever the cat. Cert- saying hello back please let notifying me immediately l. We'll get there. We'll get there. We might already be there. Let's just before we go any further kids just You you to everyone at home and let's all just take a deep breath. Okay my next GONNA be okay. Take a deep breath encounter for us from Dana Tiger. It's GonNa it's GONNA BE OKAY. We're going to get through this altogether I I hope. Everyone is listening from the safety of their homes. Now Wild so buffering. Listening Party. Sure you I know you all have every week that mattered people crammed into a room. You can all just listen to it at the same time. Remotely and skype about it Please do not gather together or whatever you kids do. That's what we do. Eat Out of leasing gather together in our name for now. That sounds ritual or anyone else's name stay apart and Cheddar. Oh Yeah just stay apart. It'll be okay. This is the time for you to Catch up on all the net flicks. I've watched that exists. I started embroidering. I've crocheted a blanket. Now I've played like forty eight straight hours of animal crossing. Do you know by the way I ordered some Crayola washable paints for the girls. Because we didn't have very many and they wanted to paint and I was like well. We're GONNA be inside a lot so I got him some new paints and instead of It arrived in the box that was supposed to full of paints instead had a DVD player. In it I have a DVD player. Now it was supposed to be full of a bunch of different colors like twenty four different colors of Criollo washable paint. I was very excited because it had pink. Echarte was like I won't peak peak peak baked pig but it was a good player so wait. This was something that you ordered or something you found. I ordered it from Amazon. I ordered from them. Crayola washable paint paints. I received a box that was DVD. Play your spouse. That was a well. We got a DVD player now. And you did not pursue that. I know I hope she did. I actually I actually not reordered the pain. Charlie asked me that today. She said Mommy I know we got that. Dvd player but we ever get ordered. The Pay Amazon is it just some lottery. Where maybe they'll send you know. It's not how much the value of A. DVD player is decreased that it costs. There's a real obstacle thing I mean I need to this cable is a little uneven. I need something to prop it up with. That's fine we'll keep I. Sometimes you know you just the univer sends you what you need. No I'm gonNA I am going to reorder the paints and I am going to. I thought about trying to send back the DVD player. But I thought you know we have Harmony House where I volunteer and do medical stuff. They have a rapid rehousing program for people facing homelessness and they often need furniture appliances electronics. Anything extra you have and I thought maybe somebody wants a DVD player so the universe sent me a DVD player. I will donate my dvd player and by Moore Paints the first time they go to put in how long it there's something go in and it pops open and it's full of creole pig. Just a unique packaging design thought. Arizona boxes was like wow. That's a weird. Has Their well to be fair there. Probably under a lot of stress right now and they saw your order. Commend their like. Are you serious freaking serious? Pay Right now you take what you get. Dvd player. I I I'm trying to I again. It's been said in every Mon- earth but props all you teachers out there. Because I am trying really hard to maintain some sort of like structure in Charlie's life. I mean Cooper's too. She wasn't in school already but I try to do all the different activities like I try to do. Some reading some math. I do some art or something creative we do. We do music we do dance. We do theater try to do all the different hit the big things and science. Of course. That's an easy one. I do lots of science. But there's other things I know I was trying to do art and cooper loves to pay anyway. Go ahead to think about is that Cooper's life has not changed at all. Abc's and toddlers. I don't know what you are freaking out about. I stay inside all the time. She's throat because Charlie's home now. What is good though like I do? Think establishing some sort of routine or normal daily basis. I've had it like I work at a like a a normal job as I work at a bar but then I'm always doing like freelance stuff and I think anyone that is like has done. Freelance has kind of had some prep going into this. This alike have three days off. You have to like have a routine to be a human like You have to build what into it? It's it is really good advice. Like you somehow have a thing you do every day and make sure you put on clothes every day. Now that's true we've been working really hard to make sure we keep like bedtime so the same bath time routines or the same. We get up at the same. I mean for our kids like Johnson. I have teens but we we get up. We get dressed. We have outside playtime. If it's warm enough like we try to do. All the things Mo Willems who writes those pigeon books and Elephant Piggy Books? Does this great Doodle time It's at lunchtime every day. And like the Kennedy Center website. I believe and you can check that out. That's been great for the kids to like doodle. And he talks about like his feelings and shows old art from the original drafts of his books. Really Cool Josh Gad reads a story like a children's book every evening on twitter at school. Yeah so that's there have been all kinds of fun things that people are doing to like help out with that. I have organized my clothes into actual SLEEP PAJAMAS. And daytime pajamas. And then I change jobs. I sleep in my daytime dramas I have. I have nothing to do. I don't even have homework like all. My classes are cancelled for another week. And we don't even start online classes for another week so I'm just like come. Watch my kids there you go. I have these kids. Do you want to watch the. Hey what do you want to teach them? What's baby school going to be about? I don't know what do I animal crossing. Okay all right all right. All right What's your quarantine name. What what your warranty name? How do you find your? It is how you're feeling right now. Plus the last thing you eight out of Your Pantry. I am anxious. Kc masterpiece barbecue chips. Right I love that because we used to call Riley. Kc because of a night we were actually on a trip. Katya remember this. We were at Disneyworld. Oh Yeah Taylor Taylor's next to us. We were all much younger. I was like what six Charlie's age and we're laying there and we'd had a big day at Disney and then it's it we're going to bed in our hotel. It's we turn off the lights and as we're all trying to drift off we hear crunch crunch crunch current say Riley. Yes what are you doing eating KC masterpiece chips in there in the dark? In Ben Casey mets repeats. Like I wasn't even bothered by it. Like Oh yeah so you know all right. Dr Been there done that. I've I've full circled. You're backed Casey Taylor. What's your what's your name. Oh Gosh I think worrisome veggie Dog Comic Book Talk Please please. Create Worrisome Veggie dogs. The Comic Strip searched me. Where are you at when I when I first read this I realized at that moment that I was scared. Atkins bar which seems appropriate. If Atkins bar had an emotion. It would probably be scared. I yeah yeah like what am I am I? Food is good for you. I don't know who am I. No one knows really eat it. Maybe I know I've given up clearly because today I'm exhausted Thai. Which says a lot about the progression me through this week. Yeah so what? I'm trying to stave off like emptiness whiskey so we're GonNa do our best there. We go home. I'm still going to be anxious but I'll be anxious cows zone. We'RE NOT. We're not going to spend this whole episode. Talking about are are quarantining and self distances they cannot I. I hope you all are though. That's the last I'll say about it. I feel like it's our duty and also I would like to speak for all the years and say we're not like that stupid boy. They keep showing on the news. Like I don't care if I get Crowe. Nothing's going to stop me from partying. Because they're on spring break like everyone keeps face booking that all the boomers and are like this is the selfish generation. It's GONNA kill to be fair. They keep blaming. The millennials millennials. That's the thing that made. That's the thing that upsets me as I keep saying. Oh look at these millennial parties like hello. I have not been a young twenty something for over ten years like this. Yes it's not even millennials. They got the wrong rations. The Mo the millennials are out of jobs are trying to figure out what the heck they're going to do. They're not partying at the beach. Avocado toast over a fire at a garbage can. Yeah degen's ears have been kicked out of school where they would rather be ready just scrolling through thick talk depressed and that's well that's what the Gen xers are doing. That's I consider myself a lot. Closer to Gen-x. It's like we're just all at home going. We always knew this was coming back in the ninety S. We had lots of sad music about it. We were very angsty for this exact moment practice. We practiced this for a long time on. We Israel off your nihilism and your flannel. And let's be honest you've got the GIN's ears partying spring break. But you've got the boomers go into the mall so yeah and Walmart stealing finally going to Walmart Now I'm kidding. Hopefully all generations are staying home. Stay home stay home and listen to great music like what you have this week hearing us. We'll speak in speaking of our old Nineties grungy past. I'm going to talk about. It doesn't exactly grunge but It was one of my favorite bands problem. My favorite band of my teenage years And means means a lot to me. it was a I loved. Listen TO I haven't in a long time and because we were doing this I re listened to Verka Saul and man. It was good. I don't know why I stopped. It was good and it was I mean so okay. So for those either. Don't know or familiar with all the backstory of Rick Assault was It was a band that formed in Chicago in. Nineteen ninety-two basically The the two front women Nina Gordon. Louis Post. They were introduced by. Actually Lili Taylor like an actress. Pretty well known so. She was friends with both of them. Was like you two should meet and they met up and started kind of making music together. It was a little bit more singer Songwriter. And then Nina Gordon brought her Her Brother End Jim Shapiro. Who was kind of like one of those people that could play all the instruments but he never played drums. They like how about you played drums so he started playing drums like in this band for the first time. And then they added. Steve Lack as bassist And just kind of you know started like writing songs. Making music playing shows In the original format like I thought it was cool when I was reading about it like Louise and Nino would they. They didn't actually collaborate on songs like they would each bring songs the table and like Louise Sang the songs Louise wrote. Ne-near sang the songs that Nina wrote. And that's why you have like back and forth of lead vocals on. All of their albums is because they both like kind of just passed off the front woman. Job I like that. Yeah Yeah what'd you. What were your first before we kind of get into more of of the music and today I want you to be able to share like why Mitt so much to you what were your impressions of it. Riley. Because you never you'd never listen to this band before right. Never listened to them before. Did you recognize any of it? I mean this isn't like a dig. This genuinely my first thought because I did enjoy it and I listened to the whole album multiple times because we decide on this a few weeks ago. Yeah and I've listened throughout the these few weeks a few times It sounded very like just nineties movie soundtrack like like not entirely like punk but not pop like pop. Punk mix That you would hear like at the montage where the girls about to be like. Oh She's beautiful now and like they did. She gets the guy at the end like clueless like that. Kinda sure. I enjoyed it a lot but that was just. That was what it reminded me of I think that's tough. When you have something that like is genre defining or at least early genre you know I. I don't know if Rookus what would be considered on defining but it definitely is is an early example of a style of music that permeated. Yeah a time period. The nineties I it's hard because when you hear it for the first time many years later it will sound derivative to you. It will sound cliche like a million other things you've heard but that's because so many things have been patterned after it. It's it's hard to put yourself in a mindset where like all of music did not already sound that way you know it was I really enjoyed it mostly because it's the kind of music that I'd normally turn onto like right to order like crochet or whatever because it not that that would be hard core crocheting. I think he thinks it's a nice blend. And it all kind of all the songs like sound alike and you're just like you can kind of just like lose yourself in all the all the songs and new listen to multiple times and like here lyric. You didn't hear the first time or whatever like I know. I know it's a kind of music that I would I would turn on when I'm getting ready to go somewhere and invite to take away. Why do you think this ban in particular was so important new? Well you know. I remember the exact steps at it took for me to discover Rukh assault. IT WAS. This is so dated. It's it's amazing so I was a big fan of buffy. The Vampire slayer there was the episode. Where biff naked lucky played with naked. I would love to come back to. It was but it wasn't quite as impactful on me but I really loved naked at the same time period so I was yeah I into napster bit naked and yes that sentence. I know. That's like that's like that That challenge that goes online. That's like eight yourself. Without stating what year you were bored. I was trying to napster but with naked and through that Volcano Girls Somehow got suggested to me because obviously this so like fruit assault. They formed in ninety two They're big like their first album. Command ninety four eight arms to hold you. It's as the album that we're all focused on. That was the one that I was first introduced. You came out and I think Ninety seven and then they broke up ninety eight so by the time I was on to them. They had just broken up Yeah so it was. Kind of. After the fact but it was volcano. Girls was a song that I I heard through Napster rain at. I guess for me like at that time I was late middle school early high school like I was aware of like harder. Music like there is the riot girl. Movement was a thing that bit of things it's ninety s but that was a little intimidating and there was some thing about virk assault the balance between accessibility. But also like it wasn't the spice girls they weren't trying to say like yeah like best friends. We have power like Rupaul. Had like you know they were. They were angry. They were pissed off and they said they were confused and they were also also like yeah. We're all some but also. Oh no this breakup like they. They had that kind of energy that I was radiating at and it was it was an entry point into a lot like heavier music for me but because it had that those pop sensibilities. I could get on board as silly. You know thirteen fourteen year. Old Chair yeah no it. It definitely did because I was never I mean I like rock music. I like the LAMEST thing too. Is that the worst thing to say. Okay I like rock and roll no but like I don't mind music that's harder but I definitely I I do not enjoy quite as hard edges. I think sometimes you do tae and I always found Rukh assault to be like it it. It went right up to the edge like it was raw enough to go right up to the edge of that. And then it. Like was smoothed off. Just just nicely rounded off in a way that made it way more enjoyable for my taste. Yeah well you know it's funny because I know we'll talk about this band at some point but no one would ever. I don't think people would ever make this comparison but this is how my brain organizes things. It was a lot like weezer in that. They had this swag ARY like Kiss Guitar Situation. Like this rock and roll like just shredding at some points and then could back off into really catchy refrains and like relatable teenage topics and that really appealed to me at that time period so even though they do band sounded not really anything alike. They kind of had that same balanced to them that I just really dug and the and the unique ability for like melodic. Yelling is you know. That's that can never be appreciated enough. I feel like for my taste like I 'cause I am not usually I'm not a pro yelling person typically but but if it's melodic yelling that's a whole other thing. I think that's part of it that that I enjoyed so much was because it's it's not all the way rock screaming super like metal. Sorry stuff yeah But it's almost close to like not in the the subject matter and most of the songs like the melody but like The mix of voices you get like musical theater like the mix of like like the belting but then you got like the casual lake. Catchy stuff you've got the background parts. You got all the layers like it's very much like that where you have all these different layers and it's not just one note like a lot of Pop. Music is a lot of like all the way on the other end like Super Heavy. Heavy metal stuff as yeah. Well I think that Kinda hits on. I think the deeper reason that I loved Rupaul. And that's that there. Is this a lot of a lot of when you talk Rookus? You can't not talk about the break up and you can't not talk about the relationship between Louise Post Nina Gordon because it was tumultuous and powerful and Lake at the core of it what I think. A lot of people loved about their music. Is that there. There isn't just they. They don't have a unified voice in their in their early music. You know there seems to be a conversation happening between these two front women like a lot of their songs and evenly like on eight arms to hold you where they're about to break up a lot of their songs kind of have the sense of the what's about to happen between them and it's like for me like. I think I've never been big on romantic. Relationships friendships have always been more important to me and like there was something about this to me. Seen to like just cool. Talented women like performing next to each other supporting each other like singing to each other was like there was something bigger that was it was more than just like. I like the music. It's Catchy and oh they sing about breaks baker ups and stuff and so I can relate to. It's like now it's like there's there's a relationship here that's really beautiful and like and powerful and also that you know lake something that's completely like a bomb. That's about to go off that I don't know like I think that that's that's kind of why there's like those levels of it's not just one unified voice. It feels more like appointed a counterpoint. Because that's exactly what Nina Louise Word at each other. Yeah that's that's interesting. Can You There's not like I feel. I realized that sounds like a teacher. He question like quizzing. You're becoming tedious teetering elaborate but no but like Like through the songs I don't I don't know that I knew them intimately enough like as their history and their past to like be able to listen to the song and hear all that through the music. I know that because you've told me that you know But I didn't know all those things about them and their relationship and their conflicts and stuff well and they've been I won't say they haven't been forward about what exactly happened. I mean they've talked a lot about like I read a few interviews leading up to this and like Nina's saying that basically they just broke each other's heart which is a powerful statement but like that at the time they both were supposed to women and I think also you got to factor in like the music industry expectation like. I think we've always had this problem where we're dealing with female artists. There's the diva you know. And I mean having to women at the front of the band there was. They were both writing their own songs and singing their lyrics and kind of everything was separate. And that's why it had that really great like some songs would be light and poppy usually. That was needed. Gordon some songs would be really heavy and like metal and that was usually Louis Post but they kind of go back and forth and like a lot of like why why the band broke up. There were there. Were Romantic relationships involve? There are a lot of rumors. I don't really want to give them any light because I think anything. The band has confirmed as disrespectful thorough. What IFS OUT THERE? Montlake they you know. They proceeded After they broke up they each had. I mean Louis Post kept for us all the name. Virga salt and continued to produce albums with several with rotating P group of people behind her Nina Gordon had her solo career. But they kept writing songs about each other and how much the other one had hurt each other and like like you could see that it was. Just there's as greater talking about how They wish they had just like this is. This is a weird thing to say but like had a fistfight gotten over it because they proceeded to have fist fight through music for years after that for like a decade after that and is and it was pay somebody that followed 'cause I was a big fan of them and then when they broke up I followed both of their careers and as a fan. It was like painful to hear like man. Louise's just wrote this. Like resolve was the first album that came out after eight arms to hold you without Without Nina Gordon. And it's like it rips Nina Gordon. Apart it doesn't come out. Say but you know who it's about but then Nina Gordon has some some some songs actually They eventually have to read. They did they did have a reunion very recently and they recorded some songs and they have a new album and they record one of the songs that need a Gordon wrote about Louis Post and it's brutal but the fact that they could come to terms with that and re record a song that's basically a district about one of them is like I don't know there's just so much there's the band and that's one thing but you can see that behind it all. There's a friendship that meant a lot to both of them and ripped both of them apart when they fell apart and then meant so much when they came back together. And I don't know I mean experiencing that as just a fan go so much deeper than just liking their music. It's really seen something that you know. You can relate to feel deeply about right. I mean it's like when you know it's exactly like when the Jonas brothers split up and stopped making music and then came together and a whole bunch of songs. Well back how long? How long were they split up? Tenure so well you just get like a joke. I was GONNA say same level like they weren't fighting though they were. I mean they were still. Have you watched their documentary? Of course I haven't what are you may one day. I'll make you watching document. No please no No but they were like still brothers will yeah. Siblings can't fight Sydney about that. Yeah I'm not. I'm not saying that I'm just saying the idea of of siblings. Fighting to the point that they would destroy you know lucrative career. Podcast seems wild and I wouldn't recommend that for any other siblings is all. I'm saying. Well no but like I know what you mean about in the sense that when you really love this band and then they. They aren't together anymore. But then when you finally get like that reunion where you almost feel like you're a part of it because you're there from the beginning and it's like Oh this is for me. This is mine. This isn't for people who are just now listening to their music. Only heard them since they've been back together. This is. This is for me because I was here from the beginning and all through the break in. Yeah yeah that's A. That's a definitely a thing. I feel like in music when you're around long enough to experience bands breaking up getting back together instead well and I. I think it was particularly i. I didn't know that they had a reunion. That's really cool to hear. Because I remember you and I have in conversations about like I listen to their music separately and I never enjoyed it quite as much as I enjoyed their music together. And you feel like There's this secret sauce here like if the two of you can just work through your stuff which not to minimize like whatever it was could giant and I'm not saying like work through it to make music I like but like you see that. There's this spark. There's this magic that two people can create if they work together and then if they've got differences that can't be resolved at feels very like the world is being deprived of more genius. Well that's totally 'cause like I think I remember like the the volcano girls music video like they're both Luisa Nena on Bungee cords and does Wailing Guitar at. It's it's just a crazy awesome exciting music video and they're singing right into each other's face and like there's A. There's a point where they're both like flipping off everybody around them and just seeing to each other and it was just like when they broke up. I felt like it was like their break-up represented like what I loved about them was like Hey as women. We don't have to compete. We don't have to be against each other. We can support an embrace and actually find completion within each other and it doesn't have to be romantic like it. Doesn't you know as a young person confused about by identity? It a lot of ways I. It was really nice to see two women being really supportive and kind of being each other's worlds like finishing each other. And I think that you know that was. It was so much more than just like manna like their music was good. It was like Oh now if they can't work then maybe this thing that they gave me hope for can't work and that was well deeper. Yeah well and that can't be I mean we kinda you kinda joked earlier like comparing like to the spice girls but to be fair. There is something to be drawn. There have been these like groups of female artists who have worked together. Whether you're talking about something that's like Barack assault which I would classify very different music than the Spice Girl and obviously draws very different audiences but the idea of lake girl power or whatever you WANNA call it. The idea of of women coming together and celebrating their friendship their power. Their ability is always kind of mocked and belittled. And I think whether you're talking about like He like the spice girls because of girl power. Oh I get your one of those like angsty girls whose mad and so you like virk assault or whatever it is you know. It's all like demaned but it means a lot when you're younger and to see to see any kind of female friendships. That aren't like combated. Art inherently competitive. It really is very powerful when you're younger because that even as a as an adult like just not shown as much it's just not modeled to young people as much then there was There was real love there. I think that the musical wouldn't have been so good if there had been. I don't think the break-up would have been so bad if there had been like there was real love there. I mean you know. I think that you see that like they. Both spent the next decade of their careers writing angry songs towards each other. Like that's not that's not just like oh we were kind of a third together band. Didn't work out like that's that there was some part of each other than that. I really like as far as the reunion goes. I actually So they released a new album. I think this was twenty. Thirteen is when they got back together. The album came like a year after that. I we maybe two years but I went to the I went to the reunion show. They had A. They had a tour at lake. I I never thought I would get deceiver assault play and they got back. I will say they they got the original lineup back like you know like I said Lewis cycled through a lot of people but they personally like wet and they got you know the Gotcha Shapira Got Steve Lack. It was the first time back on drums since like he stopped. Play with. Everyone's like okay. I guess I'll do my gosh actually before we get to that but actually lead up to like the conversation that they had like You know after many many years. Louisa Nina started kind of e mailing. Each other like Sid I think you'll appreciate this. They they both are our mothers now and I was sort of. Why they reconnected was I think Nina had a a child. I and then when Lewis was pregnant started reaching out to Nina being like This is weird. Tell me things sleigh. Lb and you know now. They're both like mothers with with kids and like they have families and so because they both have other lives and they're busy for this new album. They weren't writing the way they used to they. Weren't I write my songs in your at your songs? They'd be like why were a part of this but I don't know how to finish it. You take it I got. I got to get the kids to soccer practice like. They started a finally collaborating finally like as they call it co-parenting the ban and that is what the new album came from. And that's that's really like I dunno for like know I think I've a big proponent of camera mantech relationships are great sexual Great but we really tend to put sexual relationships above all above all else in like diminish all others like this was clearly an important friendship to them and see them kind of find that resolution where they can co parent bad and finally write songs. Together is so much more romantic to me than most like stories that I read are here. They know it really it really is. It's a beautiful story and it's one that is not unfamiliar to us. I mean like I think John Paul is a very close analogy to that of the Beatles. You know you know I mean it's it's not an and that I think is widely accepted as like all what an amazing friendship it was so it it sucks that like they had fights and disagreements that obviously led to the ban breaking up and everything like that so sad because they were so amazing together and like it's very similar kind of story and actually the the wild part about that is so many of Rook assault references to the Beatles. Eight arms to hold you was what help was originally going to be called Nina Louise's First Solo album as rick assault is called resolve are being McCain revolver the line and see their about the Sierra the line in salt by. I've told you about this either before. Caesar's Louise is the Walrus Palm. It's like they have all these references. And that's that's another thing that I really loved about the F. Well that's a signer. What I loved about salt is like they have a song about David Bowie. That's why I started listening to David. Bowie Lake. It's I enjoy that. They reference the Beatles. Let that's why. I started listening to the Beatles like they had a lot. They weren't afraid of being kind of obscure or making references or kind of lead. You down a track to their influences. You know that that I thought was a different layer that they were operated on but but no I do agree like I have to say when they at the I went to the knitting factory here in Brooklyn and when Anita Louise walked out on stage and I love it because they both like you know you see all the past photos of and like their course. It's in there. Leather and their rock and roll goddesses. They walk out there like jeans and flannel couple of MOMS at. It's great and they walk out on stage and everybody started clapping and just kept like we all just kept clapping. It was like a fifteen minute round of applause until both Dean and Louise were both crying on stage because it was just like you know we were all so sake to see them and they were all so happy to be there like that makes me wanNA cry. Beautiful and like Sydney is tearing up across these times. Make me really cool and like hearing voices of change and you know maybe they can all want me. I'M NOT GONNA say they hit the notes. Great they had some some extra grid on there which only makes it better. Yeah but like still shred on stage and like enjoy it so much like hands down without a doubt best show. I've ever been to in my life that's a nice. It's a nice redemption and like reuniting story reunification. Thank you know what I mean coming back together. It's a IT'S A. That's a nice story off there because they're newer album. Has this track that really love? It's called a totally and Which I think says a lot about how view their relationship is like? You know. You just can't get it. It's a and it's like they have like ten years guy and they beat us black and Blah and the gloves are coming off and the boots are going back on with nothing left to prove to all the young dudes. The needles in the groove. It's like Your back that's really cool. Yeah Do you have a favorite song either off this album or General? Yeah if people want to like get into Ruka salt. Yeah I mean if you want to get into it like there. The catchy songs that I think you'll you'll enjoy right off the bat That's like see there and an volcano girls or like their big hits. Yeah I think David Bowie's is poppy and catchy and Super Fun I I really I personally think that I don't know why but I mean my favorite songs are probably love. Earth Crosser Earth Crosser is the last song at eight arms to hold you and it's Kinda weird starts very slow. It's about them on tour together and I think it's because he's a part epitomizes like the ambivalence and the kind of like or figuring stuff as we go along like thing that appealed to me as a teen. 'cause there's like this beautiful. Christian it's quiet crescendo. And the lyrics. Just it's what is it. It's two am and it's quiet again. And then they just both screaming. Where's my lip gloss? We don't care if you take seriously. Yeah we're girls like what of it where still working on on guitar? So I I love Earth Crosser And shutterbugs shutterbugs. Great it builds. Its beautiful like I don't know I mean yeah. There's a couple of favorites. Y- well I think I think that's lovely and it's a lovely story to tell right now because I feel like I have gotten a lot of like messages and texts from people. I haven't talked to in a while like reaching out to be like. Hey how you doing? Yeah about you and like I had that same impulse lately. You know to like not not people. I've had feuds with. I don't really buy your use. Of the word feuds well it has not been used a contrary to my appalachian roots may lead you to believe. I have no feuds but I haven't talked to while they're like hey how you doing and it's I don't know it's a good time to Reconnect with like old friends and like little messages and things to say. Hey there's somebody out there thinking about you know for sure and if you have a long standing feud with a former creative partner you know. This is the best high comeback album. Yeah you don't have to be together to You you've technology. You can skype it. In a lot of wonderful art will come out of the social distance and we said that about the administration. And I'm so maybe this is it. Maybe this is the thing. You gotTa have faith you gotTa Hope Wow. I tend to it. Assuming I'll be able to leave my house at well you know. I mean put a while while we can't at least we can all keep making fun content for everybody traded. Put some more stuff out there. Yeah Yeah Yeah Check INTO THE MACARONI FAMILY YOUTUBE STREAMED. I baked the other night. We've got some fun ideas we're not we're we're still we're still forming wins but like yeah but give it keep tuned. We'll probably do everything through the Macaroni Family Youtube Channel. Anything video I should say anything audio would just like be here on our podcast feed same as everything else. So you know about it but we've got some. We got some ideas cooking how to how to fill these quarantine so social distance hours Because we're trusting that you're doing the right thing. Yeah the home staying home stained say washing your hands vigorously with soap and water for twenty seconds. Yes there are lots of. I've seen lots of little Broadway clips of songs that you can sing. That are driving seconds here that he used instead of happy. And I you know I was thinking of the day how important it is to like. Make myself at some point. Dress like a presentable human so we've joked in the past about outfits of the day on a couple of episodes you if you were to show off your outfit of the day on on twitter or online if you. WanNa tweet at us we will. You know we'll just smooth outfits. Take take a selfie in the mirror. It's so easy to show me your to do. We should do that. You can tag us on twitter at still buff. I'll do it to that will give me a reason to give pajamas. Hey that's a great idea can hold ourselves to show pictures of my kids on twitter which is too bad because Charlie would love this idea. Get your you can put a little smiley face over her sweet baby face to face out of there. I could do what she's done to me. Which is dressed me. Oh you should let her. Why not his? Yeah I have. I have several outfits that she's put together for me. I'll let her me. I'll at least once Next week so thank you. Thank you bring. Rukh assault to us. Yeah and it was nice to listen to it again I was. I was glad I went ahead and downloaded both eight arms to hold you in American thighs so I could listen to more often. Put them in my rotation. That was something I never would've listened to if not for giving it. Thank you both for listening I changed my mind throughout the course of this episode. Okay I was going to say animal. Crossing was going to be next talk because it has just been everything I've done and everyone else I th and everyone else but I think it's too soon it's too soon. I think it's not enough time for you. All understand animal crossing fully grasp it and appreciate it So I have picked one of my Next options that I had that I want to do soon. Which is the Taylor? Swift documentary on Netflix called Miss America. This is actually time late. 'cause I saw that that video that came out apparently about yes the Kannada Taylor in the phone call I actually read a transcript of it I can't believe I I. Yeah but basically there things. There are things that Taylor swift has done. Obviously are not great but this documentary focuses a lot on the pressures on like being a teenage girl trying to be like your own person in the entertainment industry unlike dealing with powerful men who take your music and you know tell you what to do and how to act and all that stuff so all right. So what is it called again Miss Americana Miss America the Taylor Taylor Swift documentary on net. Netflix lakes yes. It's a pretty sure it's like an hour and a half to good. I can't wait till Justin what we're watching this weekend and Charlie like it. Yeah she'll watch it with me. Yeah she she likes t swift so we'll be back at a regular time next week with that. Yes thank you. Thank you all for listening Stay safe stay home if you I. I really think I can't tell you how much it's meant to me. I got I got it started with like a facebook message from Samantha. 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#85 | Seinfeld

Twenty Thousand Hertz

31:11 min | 7 months ago

#85 | Seinfeld

"The New Year is all about making improvements in your life. So here's an easy way to do. Just that make your world sound better with the power of Sonos. I personally use sonos speakers all all over as a home theater or simply streaming from spotify or apple music while I cook they sound amazing and are super easy to set up. They also recently launched another speaker. It's called the Sonos move. It's a portable smart speaker. You can bring with you indoors out. It's waterproof and even has automatic tuning technology to optimize the sound in any environment government dot com to learn more. You're listening to twenty thousand Hertz. And the Seinfeld is one of the most successful sitcoms of all time during the nine years that it ran Seinfeld had millions of viewers. It won ten EMMYS. He's three Golden Globes and it's cast become Superstars Seinfeld ended over twenty years ago. But it's still very much alive. It has a huge obsessive fan base. Ace minutes still gets referenced all the time it's theme song that we're hearing right now was unlike any theme song that came before it or is come after. And there's a pretty interesting backstory that you probably don't know behind that Wacky Slap Bass but before we get into it. I need to tell you about my friend Steve. My Name's Steve Lack back and I am. Hey Post production audio mixer and sound designer. Steve and I worked together years ago when we were both sound designers at the discovery channel. I consider Dallas thousand one of my best friends. I really love Dallas. We were both the night shift guys and we both come in around. Six o'clock. nightshift is generally unsupervised. So you come in and you get your assignments you work on your mixes you work on your work. And then when you feel like taking a break take a break to give you a picture of what Steve's like he's the type of person who's lived one hundred. The different lives like the time. He was a circus drummer and got into a fistfight with a clown or the time. He dropped everything and moved to Trinidad or the time he was doing things he shouldn't have been doing in a parking garage that collapsed hours later in the Northridge Earthquake. Yeah Steve is easily one of my favorite people in the world so I would wander over to his suite or he he wandered over and my sweet and we talked politics or the events of the day or sound design or whatever but we got to be pretty good friends because we had several hours hours of quiet time and night where we just hang out and chat during one of those random late nights st told me about the time he worked on Seinfeld. Wait what so apparently in the late eighties and early nineties. He'd been an assistant to a TV composer named Jonathan Wolf. When I first moved to la I was seventeen years old old? And that's Jonathan. He's composed the music for seventy five. TV shows including will and grace married with children. And who's the boss but no one becomes a major not composer overnight. Jonathan spent his first decade in. La doing musical odd jobs and making connections the studios. Were happy to have me. They treated me like a Swiss Swiss army multipurpose utility tool for musical chores. Because I had good training in a wide range of fields but after ten in years Jonathan was ready for a change. I decided that I no longer wanted to continue having the telephone dictate to me where where I was going to work each day and what I was going to do when I got there so I declared myself a composer. Jonathan wrote letters to all of his Hollywood contacts. He thanked them for their support. But ask them to stop sending him these low level musical jobs instead. He wanted to compose original music. Zach this was a huge risk. It's like an actor who had only ever had bit parts deciding that they'll only accept lead roles from now on Jonathan. Knew he might regret it but he mailed those letters anyway. I held my breath. I may have just nuked last ten years of my life. But when when those letters started arriving at their destinations all over Hollywood people just shrugged and said well. That's too bad. He's good utility guy and they started throwing me little writing assignments. songwriting assignments further movies in scoring assignments. In that is how my composing posing career began. This is around the time that Steve got hooked up with Jonathan. He landed. WHO's the boss? And he was doing some other after school specials and starting to really take off as a TV composer news looking for somebody to help out with Midi tack engineering some orchestration in transcriptions setting gear. And all that stuff. I wore many hats. Gradually more and more jobs started coming in we were doing. Who's the boss did some? WHO's the boss spin off shows? Mother sitcoms but getting connected with Jerry. Jerry Seinfeld happened almost by chance turns out in real life. Jerry has a best friend named George. It's George Wallace Comedian what makes me sick. People saying stupid stuff off their piloting unmanned say to me my wife on until I saw you the George Wallace and I have been buddies for a long long time and when Jerry Seinfeld confided confided to his best friend George Wallace that he was having trouble with the music for his new show Wallace said. Hey Call my buddy wolf and so I got a phone call from Jerry Seinfeld. He described to me a sound design issue. Oh he told me that the music for his new show which at the time was called the seinfeld chronicles the opening credits for that show would would be jerry standing in front of an audience. He tells jokes. Oscar Mayer is expanding. His Larry. It's not little anymore is Oscar. Mayer is now a huge monstrous place that area that whole section near keeps getting bigger and for him is not easy to come up with new products that come up with a new product. He has to invent meet no animal as far as I know people laugh. That's the opening credits. And he wanted music music to go with it and I told them right away. That sounds like an audio conflict because what we really need to hear. Is You telling jokes folks deibel laughing. You See TV theme music. Leading into Seinfeld where these epic belting lyrical odes like golden girls a team family ties as Dukes of Hazzard or my personal favorite has eighties. Kid transformers all all of these themes songs were designed to play all by themselves not as a device to prop up dialogue the music in the late eighties on TV was melodic a Lotta. OUGHTA Sassy saxophone silly lyrics. Yeah I'm guilty of creating a lot of that kind of music but it was not going to work in this case so Jonathan pitched this crazy idea instead of making a traditional theme song with verses and a catchy chorus he would build a music around Jerry standup bits so I pitched to Jerry. How about this? How about we treat your human voice as the melody of the Seinfeld theme every time you do a different monologue? We'll be a variation on the theme. My Job Jerry will be to accompany you in in a way that works well with your human voice but does not interfere with the audio of you telling jokes for example the human organic nature nature of your human voice might go well with the human organic nature of my human lips tongue finger snaps like this and I had his attention because that was music for Mars in the late eighties sampling was in its infancy and he said. How's that work and I said come on over? Jonathan had to prove that he could make music. That was memorable and fun on but didn't distract from Jerry standup. I threw it up against one of his monologues. He liked what I showed him. He held the phone up to the speakers. So that Larry David could hear it over. The phone Larry liked it. That was at that time. I'm the entire approval process for the Seinfeld theme are unfortunately the network was less impressed. There there was a meeting where they kind of laid out some conditions and the first thing on the list was music the network executives had some major concerns. What's up with the music? What does that sound was with a popping and what instrument is that? Can we not afford real music. It's distracting it's weird. It's annoying when he said annoying. Larry David perked up. Larry as you may. We know likes to be annoying so I turned to our boss and huddled with him. and Larry Jerry and said look guys I'll L. change the music. Sound a big deal Larry. David would have none of it. He just started yelling at me is they. Don't out and I left the meeting because Larry David thrown me out for suggesting that maybe we would change the music. And obviously Larry Punk tied on the music and music state in the picture as the hero of Ed Story. Yeah so what made up the so-called annoying music. Let's break it down to it's essential parts first up is that iconic slap Latte base at the time slap bass was an element of Funk music buried in the mix it had had not yet enjoyed celebrity status has a solo instrument. Broadly forward illuminated it. put it hot in the mix and it sounded any Kanak. Interestingly these baselines weren't played on a real base Jonathan actually played them on on a keyboard controller that could trigger different samples including bay sounds. It was about at that time that sampling was becoming. I'm really usable. And I use Seinfeld as a proving ground for that bleeding edge technology to get the sound for the original Seinfeld base. Ace Jonathan and Steve took base patches from two different devices and blended them together. The actual original base Oun was Role in defy fifty fifty popper and coreg m one slap bass. I think he started out with the M one. Felt like it wasn't cutting enough. So then we added that defy fifty paper in there which had kind of been hedged to it in what I would do is kind of get a balanced between these two cents while he was playing until we kinda just nailed EXAC- the right sound the base line of Seinfeld checks the actual music of it so basic simple it did not require for beats to a bar do not require meter at all never hold water. I can shut up and start the base to make allowance for the timings of his jokes and his punch lines and the people laughing then there. Those organic sounds that Jonathan mentioned Jonathan recorded. These noises himself off using his fingers and mouth then. He met them to his keyboard so he could play them on the fly. Combine that with a simple Shakur and these noises serve serve as the rhythmic backbone of the Seinfeld theme even the tempo was set around. Jerry's comedic timing. I watched Jerry's standup comedy. And I noticed that he he has a lyric sensibility about the way. He delivers his lines the way he moves. His choreography is facial expressions is move and there was a meter to it that I put different clocks on and finally I settled in on about one one ten. I don't think people think of their offices a workplace as a stationery store with Danish. You WanNa get pastry envelopes. Your supplies your toilet paper six cups of coffee and you go home and that seemed to work well with the metrics of Jerry's is comedy and so that became the tempo of the seinfeld theme in general a few other musical elements were used to emphasize punch lines and other key moments. There was some horns in Vaudeville. When someone told a joke there'd be a rim shot? Will my music kind of serve the oral space of that so the horns would accentuate the end of jokes in the end end of the monologue itself. Let's listen to the opening monologue from the episode the mango notice. How the musical elements ebb and flow to match? Jerry's delivery seedless watermelon what an invention scientists are working on this. I mean other signs devote their lives fighting cancer AIDS heart disease. No I'm focusing on melon. Oh sure thousands of people are dying needlessly but this that's gotTa stop to try and pick a wet one up off the floor. It's almost impossible. I'm devoting my life to that so I guess if they can get rid of the seeds. The Rhine is going next. What do we need that for? Get the Ryen. They're not GONNA stop until they're making the ground ready to eat. Fruit cups growing the idea of having to recreate a recording of the theme. Every every episode was a new concept. I treated it like Lego music. These were elements that could be modular. Modular Lee manipulated to fit the individual timings in the overall length of each monologue. I knew that if this show show win anywhere I was going to have to recreate music. Bespoke for each monologue and so he did to score an episode. Jonathan would watch and rewatch every scene playing along on his keyboard to what was happening on screen. They had to be done to picture. So that the timing's would be right and so that I could maybe use some of his choreography. Sometimes he would do things with his hands or his head. That would give me musical. Instruction the music wasn't just customized for the monologues but also for the unique transitions between scenes like going from the terminal to the plane in the episode called the airport or from the cafe. Jerry's apartment in the gum woman. The gang ends up in a sleepy Massachusetts town in the finale This level of music customization was completely unheard of in Hollywood most. TV shows have one main theme song and a handful of filler tracks. That get reused over and over but on Seinfeld every single episode is unique. It would've saved them tons of time and effort to do things the normal way but that perfectionism is exactly what makes Seinfeld feel so polished even today but the main theme only scratches is the surface of Jonathan's work on Seinfeld as the show progressed. Jonathan got to play around with a wide range of musical genres and tropes these unique tracks underscore. Some of Seinfeld's most hilarious Larionov and memorable scenes. That's coming up after the break. The sound you're hearing right now is the sound of my own personal sonos system calibrating L. happens with the SONOS APP in smartphone. At the end I get to hear this glorious sound. That sound means. My sonos system has been fully calibrated and tuned to to the room. I'm standing in. Look it's that time when everyone. Everyone is making resolutions for the New Year so held out an easy resolution that I know will make your year better upgrade the listening experience in your life this year with a great sound of Sonos. If you've always dreamed about having a top notch home theater Sonos is the perfect solution. Setup is a breeze and the speaker sound absolutely incredible once you hear the crystal clear ear sound. You'll realize what you've been missing out on compared to your other. TV speakers is also super easy to add more speakers later on so you can upgrade at anytime. Many sonos speakers even have the voice control built right in. It's perfect for playing podcasts. Or Music while you cook in the kitchen because I'm obsessive. I personally use sonos speakers all over my house and I use them every every day but so does isn't just for the home. They recently launched another groundbreaking speaker. It's called the Sonos move and it's a portable smart speaker. You can bring with you wherever you go. It's waterproof and has up to ten hours of battery life so it's ready for almost any adventure and as I just demonstrated Sonos even built in automatic tuning technology to optimize is the sound for whatever environment you're in you'll be amazed at the positive impact quality speakers can have in your life so make your world sound better with Sonos go to Sonos who knows DOT COM to learn. More this episode's mystery sound is sponsored by Sonos the wireless sound system for brilliant. Sound anywhere her here. It is it again if you think you know what that sounders this let us know at the web address. Mystery Dot Twenty K.. Dot Org if you get it right you'll be entered to win one of our world famous Super Soft Twenty Thousand Hertz. T shirts stick around to the the end of the show to hear the reveal of last episode's mystery sound when creating the music of seinfeld composer. Jonathan Wolf took a revolutionary approach for each episode he built a music around Jerry's opening and closing monologues and added unique transitions between scenes. This means that no two episodes are alike. Even the bass sound itself has changed over the course of the show. The SEINFELD old base progressed evolved. In fact there are multiple seinfeld basis throughout the show. It became a thing around my office for my staff to leave me gift samples to be into Seinfeld accused. It made it more fun for Seinfeld. Connoisseurs they note took POW the Seinfeld based sound change from season to season and from episode episode. Sometimes as for the actual melodies the early season transition music tends to stay a lot closer to the melody of the main theme song. Like this in the later seasons the base fills get a lot wackier. The era also plenty of opportunities to branch out from the main theme depending on what the script called for about a week before an episode begins. Shooting shooting each production department receives a script so they can prepare wardrobe. Props set dressing my music. Editor would read the descript in database a to do list of music pieces and or on stage music assistance. That this episode. Sometimes it's necessary to pre produce music before they shoot the scenes for example. When there's on Camera Morris singing or dancing I would need to create the music recordings far enough in advance? So the other departments the actors dancers choreographer director camera the crew had time to prepare for the shoop for example I had create the instrumental tracks for Jason Singing. Believe it or not. George isn't at home in advance for playback during the audience. Shoot Ettelaat George at home. Veep Kramer's head banging metal bersell Rochelle the musical Kramer's photo shoot of a semi naked. George David also in post is the time to create underscore music that heightens dramatic or emotional scene or serves serves as a comedic device in the hot tub episode. Elaine wanders the cold nights streets upset about her writer's block doc. The music is at first worried and then at the end triumphant as she solves her Himalayan walking shoes assignment. All right my heartaches put my feet. My feet are resilient God I took off my heels and put on my. We're the sentimental music that plays when George and leader Gerry. Watch happy couples on the here and decide to get married On seinfeld cinematic action music with chasing's became Thang Jerry. JC Newman the cable. Guy Chasing Kramer in the geriatric bike gang chasing George. The German tourists chasing Kramer and that became a recurring Seinfeld. Comedy comedy tradition. I always scored the Seinfeld chases in post as if they were serious. Dramatic chases the same with Jerry's dream sequence Tarantino. You know asked death scene in the baby shower or in the frogger when Jerry runs from the locker you get the idea. There's these moments for me to do over the top silly movie underscore and and so there was music in pre production. There's music and post production and sometimes my duties were onset because of the fast paced filming schedule. Jonathan typically had just a single day to complete each episode in general for normal episode. I liked one full calendar day between receiving an episode and delivering finished music. It was a hectic schedule but all that work paid off opt Seinfeld became a smash hit and stayed that way all the way through its final season. The one thousand nine hundred finale had seventy six million viewers making it one of the most. I watched finales of all time. It's just such an interesting point in television history. And it's like working on Mary Tyler Moore Ores going back and you're done the Lucy show the TV show captures a wide enough audience. It becomes a shared memory for a whole generation. The show's theme song can be a huge part of that often. The theme not only reflects the show's sensibilities but also welcomes the audience by bridging the gap between the show set and the viewers yours living room but the cheers theme. Does that so well. Sometimes you you really feel welcome to that show because of the theme a TV theme like no other production element transport you into the world of the show itself Yawn TV themes are woven into the fabric of our personal experiences like the soundtrack of our lives. Familiar themes like Seinfeld serve as pop up cultural touchstones marking times and places in our lives for me. Those lifeline markers include themes like mission. Impossible Awesome Pink Panther L.. Bill Search for my kids. It's probably the friends theme song people hold warm and fuzzy connections to the TV themes in their memories For the millions of Seinfeld fans out there. The show's music will always hold a special place in their hearts. So what's took to work on something so monumental is great. I mean the thing with Jonathan was he'd been in the business five or six years longer than me as a a young guy I was looking to break in and learn the ropes and he was just so helpful he started many careers. Everybody who worked for him after after me and at the same time I was there has gone too big Hollywood careers and it's all because of his mentorship and his guidance so he was really a giving person he was jealous of the success he shared it. I'm happy that the seinfeld music became a unique identifying signature for the show it became Seinfeld's sonic brand and that satisfies me a lot that even apart from the show. Even when there's no picture to go with it may recognize it as being Seinfeld theme around Twenty Thousand Hertz is hosted by me Dallas Taylor and produced out of the studios of defacto sound a sound design team dedicated to making television film in game. Sound incredible find out more at defacto. SOUND DOT com. This episode was written and produced by Casey Emily. Then me Dallas Taylor with help from Sam snead. It was sounded by Soren Beijing. It was designed to Mix by Burger and Colin Varney special thanks to our guests. Jonathan Wolf and Steve Lack. Jonathan says he loves hearing from FANS THE FANS. Find me on my instagram facebook. It's easy to find me. My my handle is seinfeld music guy. So if you're listening to this and you want to reach out to me please do how respond and you can. And get in touch with Steve through his website. Steve Lack Dot Com. Finally I also love your feedback. 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Cross-train the Empathy-less Salesperson-pc26

Ag Sales Professional's Podcast by Greg Martinelli

06:35 min | 1 year ago

Cross-train the Empathy-less Salesperson-pc26

"Hello and welcome. My name is greg martinelli and this is the egg sales professional podcast. My mission in life is to make you the best salesperson or sales manager injure possible in agribusiness with today. We're talking about cross training the empathy less salesperson. Every sales team has them and if you think that your team doesn't will maybe look in the mirror because it might be you walking by carol's office. I noticed her phone was off the hook and lying down on <unk> her desk in front of her as she worked on a computer carol. Your phone is lying in the middle of your desk. In sounds like someone is on there what what's going on. I mentioned to her. I know oh she said abruptly but you shouldn't. She cut me off mid-sentence. I know it's steve and i'm not picking the phone back up until he calms down now. I was really curious. How long has he been going on. I was surprised when she said about five or ten minutes. St was one of our better sales people. He did a great job of of caring for customers. Almost to the point of being too much in the customer's favour he was in the camp of over promise and over deliver sometimes more than we can handle handle carol was in charge of the office staff which included billing credit and customer service another great employee on the team but after many years in her role she was fairly early opinionated on how accounting worked she had a firm grasp when a sales person was out of line on pricing promotions or anything to do with the accounting hounding department. I just happened to be walking past the office. As an overly accommodating salesperson was in a head on collision with an under accommodating office manager with a ten minute rant rape going on. I pick up the phone and hung it up now. After all you know nothing positive was going to come from that type of call caroline for me that i really shouldn't wouldn't have done that and just as i was asking why her phone rang and yep you guessed it was steve and he picked up right where he left off. That's why carol says. She went back act working on her computer. Well there was no vulgar language or foul language. These actions were out of line. Even if carol was fully capable handling it was still out of align carols manager. I met with steve's manager and devise a plan to bring stephen to deal with two issues. I was the aggressive behavior the ranting ranting and raving continuously on a phone call the unprofessionalism of what it was steve manager and for me he would take care of that which he did and from that point forward steve mostly behaved i say mostly because he would flare up every once in a while but never as bad as on that day the second issue we had to do with steve steve lack of understanding or empathy around what he was asking our office staff to do. He was so overly accommodating to customers that he felt whatever they wanted. They should get in while. I'm a big believer in the customer's always right in some high volume low margin long-term customer relationships apps. Sometimes they're wrong and maybe instead of wrong. I should say they shouldn't always get what they want. Steve had a long history of asking for special. You'll treatment for his customers and the special treatment was not easy to keep track of times when someone in the office or production area didn't remember to provide the special special treatment steve became incensed. He couldn't understand how someone could not remember one small special step for his customers. Several two years later steve matured emailed out somewhat and moved up into management. He now spent much of his time in the office around the operations facilities instead of not with customers. We're sitting in a management meeting. One day. It was almost shocking as i heard him expound on how hard the office and production crew were working king how they tried their very best to keep track of all the customize requests but couldn't track all of them he went on to say we should even recognize them for their efforts and cut them a break if they happen to miss on once in a while we'll you know after the meeting visiting with carol. I couldn't help but reminisce with her about that day years earlier. When this very same purpose purpose giving this very same person was on the other end of a one way phone call we truly we missed our chance to bring stephen at that point and have him sit down with the office staff. Shall the production crew to understood understand what he was asking asking them to do. He needed to see how hard it was to stop production line in the middle of a run and take care of his special request. He needed to take a stack two hundred load orders i and sort through them until he found his one customer that needed special handling on their account. We missed but it's not too late for you. If you have one of these types of employees the best medicine is a little dose across training and this goes for the office and the production crews well if they are or the empathy las employees then by all means had them go belly to belly as we used to say with the customer and find out how hard it is to explain why you won't don't make a small concession real easy to draft an email and tell the sales team. Just let your customers no we will no longer carry a product or offer a programmer grammar allow a special requests. It's not so easy to stand in the customer's office warehouse or farm while they were covered in dirt grease or worse and inform them. You're going going to offer less than than before while we're all in the business of serving our customers in the last four years doesn't become more and more difficult than agribusiness because margin's uptight. This only makes the situation. Caroline steve's worse. Our sales team is trying hard to beat the competition with more service and better products. Folks are production and adleman teams are trying to reduce costs by being more efficient and a little dose of cross training goes a long way for a whole lot of understanding on everyone's part. I hope today's podcast helped you on your journey. Being the best egg sales professional you can be if you ever have topics. You'd like to hear hear about or if you'd like to be a guest on a future episode. Please reach out were always looking for new ideas and new guests and as always you can access more or blog articles and training opportunities on my website at greg martinelli dot net that's w._w._w. Dot gre g. m. a. r. t. t. I n. e. L. l. i. dot net. Thank you and have a great day.

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May 8, 2020: The White House reportedly shelved a CDC guide on reopening

5 Things

12:44 min | 3 months ago

May 8, 2020: The White House reportedly shelved a CDC guide on reopening

"Five things is brought to you by the University of Maryland. Global campus for the past seventy years. Um C has been adapting to meet the changing education needs of service members veterans and their families whether you want a degree in business it healthcare cybersecurity or another career relevant field you MG C. Can help you get there get started today at you. Mg C DOT EDU slash podcast. Good Morning I'm Taylor Wilson and this is five things you need to know Friday. The eighth of May. Two Thousand Twenty here are some of the top headlines. Seniors at to Florida high schools will have graduation ceremonies at the home of the Daytona. Five hundred. Each graduates family will be allowed one car at the race track now lineup drive over the finish line to accept their diploma and take a victory lap. Monday mark the deadline. For the first batch of ventilators companies made in response to President. Donald Trump invoking the defense production act and the forty four hundred that were made exceed the twenty nine hundred twenty two that were due on Monday and a research paper out earlier. This week describes the potential of antibodies found in llamas to fight the corona virus it was written by researchers at the University of Texas in coordination with the National Institutes of Health and university in Belgium. A reminder to check us out on twitter at USA. Today podcast there. You can find lots of great shows from across our network and keep up with all the latest from the cove in nineteen pandemic plus. There are all things five things that's at USA Today. Podcast on twitter now onto the show. A new report on Thursday found that the trump administration buried a guide from the CDC on how to reopen the country amid corona virus the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention outlined. A seventeen page report on how to do so. According to the Associated Press in general federal public health officials have recommended patients when it comes to reopening the economy amid dire economic consequences though. The White House has urged a faster base despite mixed indications that the pandemic is actually slowing nationwide house speaker. Nancy Pelosi was upset at the decision to brush aside the CDC. They had guidelines which were weak but nonetheless guidelines and then the president said you don't even have to honor them and then we find out now that there was CDC report that had much more comprehensive guidelines and they buried it in the White House but vice president. Mike Pence said on Thursday that he has confidence in states reopening plans. What the President directed our task force to do is really guidance for states around the country using the best recommendations of our scientific team and by lights It appears to me. That states are taking phased approach there following the data. They're following the science in their implementing. The kind of of testing and and resource assessment that is contemplated in the president Guidelines Open Up America again New York. The country's worst hit state by the virus passed twenty thousand deaths on Thursday only four countries around the world had more deaths from cove nineteen than New York but daily deaths. Zanu hospitalizations continued to drop. The State is working to ramp up testing before any major reopening plans New York City mayor. Bill de Blasios said that's especially the case with antibody tests on top of the hundred forty thousand for the first responders and the healthcare workers were adding another hundred forty thousand for every day. New Yorkers Combine two hundred eighty thousand people will get antibody tests in just the next few weeks in New York City. Over a quarter million antibody tests will be given these numbers that really start to add up even against size of a city as big as ours in Nevada. Some businesses will open up this weekend but Governor Steve. Lack says casinos and other nightlife establishments like clubs and brothels will remain closed. I am pleased to announce as a result of the Nevada cooperating in doing so well in the social distancing wearing masks that we are on track with a reopening criteria and we will enter phase one on Saturday may nights before the current state home directive would have expired on May Fifteenth Strip clubs and brothels will not be opening under phase one spas tanning salons massage parlours body art in body piercing establishments will also not be opening under phase one in as a reminder gaming establishments will not will not reopen in phase one. Guinea gaming operations shell remained closed until the gaming control board determines that operations may safely resume. There have been nearly four million confirmed cases of corona virus around the world but likely for more undetected globally. Nearly two hundred seventy thousand people have died including more than seventy five thousand in the US education around the US has been disrupted by the corona virus pandemic that means remote classes for some students and lots of changes to how testing takes place. Glare Thornton spoke with Sammy West who covers education for the USA Today Network in Wisconsin. She said students are seeing major changes to advanced placement tests so sammy how're AP TESTS GOING TO BE administered differently? This year the College Board decided to make all of the exams online. And they're all totally composed of trust essay questions and it's either one or two depending on the subject but students now only have forty five minutes to complete that online so they need to have some sort of device to do that on whether it's a phone or a tablet or computer they have the option of writing it in a word document or something else like that otherwise they can still remain out physically on a piece of paper but then then they're sending that piece of paper as a photo to the people grading the test. What if the photo they send his blurry and then they just don't get scores for the only response that counts for their entire score? I mean it's just crazy more. Broadly how is this a challenge for high school students teachers? I spoke to one teacher from Green Bay. He's been teaching. Ap Psychology you for fourteen years and he was telling me that it's hard enough for him to schedule. Google hangouts for all of them to work on the material and do their regular review and regular class things because a lot of them barely have high quality reliable Internet access so that's a huge barrier just to them studying for the test and then you add in that you know. That's now the only way they can take test you know. That's really alarming to him. In Green Bay Wisconsin that school district. It's the fourth largest district in the. It's mostly serving students of color and income students. So so that's a huge issue here and he definitely expressed concerns with that and even Internet aside. I mean a lot of families all rely on maybe one device like a smartphone or one computer that all of the siblings are using and also a lot of high school students are caring for younger siblings. Who they don't have their parents home because they need to be out working so now. They're kind of the caretaker in that situation have come out and said that they're going to be understanding because of the second chances were in. They'll accept scores just as they would normally and so a lot of students that I talked to weren't so much worried about that and same with the teachers you know. They think it'll all work out. I would say the biggest thing that they're concerned about just having a completely new tests to prepare for the nation is bracing for a likely historic unemployment rate to be reported on Friday. Almost three point two million Americans filed for unemployment benefits. Meaning SOME THIRTY. Three million did so in just seven weeks. The bleak numbers come as large parts of the economy remains shut down due to the corona virus pandemic and the tally signals will likely be the worst unemployment rate in us. History March and April jobless numbers pass old jobs created since the great recession supporters are planning to run on Friday to raise awareness for the death of Ahmad Ordinary in Georgia Arboretum. A black man was killed while out jogging by a white father and son duo of Gregory and Travis McMichael. The Ron comes a day after their arrest and they've been charged with murder and aggravated assault. The killing took place in late February in Brunswick Georgia and graphic video of the tragedy was released this week. Supporters Will Iran two point two three miles to signify the February twenty third date that the murder took place. The Georgia Bureau of Investigation said that an investigation into Aubrey's death remains active and ongoing and attorneys for armories family believe he was the victim of racial profiling after he was chased down and shot by the pair while a third white man neighbor. William. Brian recorded the killing on video. The tragedy has grabbed the attention of political leaders including president. Donald Trump. My heart goes out to the parents and to the loved ones of the young gentleman. It's a very sad thing and presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden called the killing a lynching a sense lens before our very eyes. Twenty twenty style. So plainly mistake about mercy family and the country deserve justice. They deserve it now. Sweat transparent investigation of this brutal murder. Nations deserves as well. The Corona virus pandemic is presenting unique challenges for parents around the country especially as kids or taking classes at home but the fallout is not equally split according to a survey from YouGov in partnership with USA Today and linked in women are taking on a greater share of parenting responsibilities during home. Isolation's and men to think they're contributing more to the kids. Then they actually are in most cases. The imbalance is an extension of so-called invisible labor according to experts and it's being compounded during the pandemic. Thanks for listening to five things. A reminder you can subscribe for free and rate US and review on Apple podcasts. You can also listen wherever you get your audio Monday through Saturday. Thanks as always declare Thornton for her work on the show five things is part of the USA. Today podcast network. What if you could gain in demand credentials online and get personalized career services from a respected State University with a global reach? Would you be interested today? And for the past Seventy Years University of Maryland global campus has been adapting to meet the changing education needs of the military and working adults you. Mg offers degrees and certificates in in demand fields like business cybersecurity healthcare security. It and more. 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Dr. Drew After Dark w/ Christina P | Ep. 36

Dr. Drew After Dark

1:14:34 hr | 10 months ago

Dr. Drew After Dark w/ Christina P | Ep. 36

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CBD's just one of them broad spectrum oil goes beyond CBD isolate and contains additional actor Jake's cocoa so what do you think what what was the most interesting part about we lease makeup I didn't know how bad his drug addiction was managed coach Christina p everybody come on now come on now I love you so much I wish you would become the next president is there any chance of running chance of that the compounds that work together to create what is known as the entourage effect or effectively delivering calming or relaxing effects that some people are looking for social media is broad spectrum oils contain zero Jeff I like that that's very nice you read stuff to us anymore I have two small kids but but it is interesting that that people that are really the Code Dr D. R. E. W. One work there checkout to save twenty percent Dutch dot com slash social. CBD Now let's get on with the show social CBD products are available range of formulations each which is clearly describes you can make an informed decision without all the promises that are no doubt too good to be true to learn more go to Dr and yeah we got into it what what's going on his recovery is in jeopardy interesting yeah Taylor who's The craziest one you've dealt with okay I know crazy pejorative term interesting multifaceted easiest was bobby we looked at a lot of cool people wear that cool it actually talked to a lot of cool guys here I mean we've had some great comedians in here and they've been really interests so I sent him back to the guy that got him sober and I've not followed up with her to see if he did it and he started crying bobby wow because Tom through new and interesting to me and then the image of his mom chasing him through a field that her impala with the thing bouncing up and down chasing him and his drug addled state in everything and experienced everything and I want to just give that back I wanNA give it I love it so I'm trying to get involved in policy and changing the homeless thing and that kind of stuff hd says none of that risk that rewarding fact they're available is great tinctures at in great flavors like Vanilla Mint pomegranate t meyer lemon just drop it onto your tongue for maximum effect is self sabotage letting things slip will it was it's interesting how it wasn't all pathology I already laughing saying to you before we started rolling that you're a dying breed of human in this country where you're very educated you very knowledgeable you read really remember except I just remember that he's he needs to be get his recovery back straight on track I think it was he was sort of slipping on responsibile ah the courts US appreciate it very much and check out all the podcast over Dr Drew Dot Com and don't forget to keep sending these emails you've been doing a great job with that it is Dr because I was hitting on exactly what was going on there and that was the source of conflict they didn't know it was conflicting about one is can you tell me raise pretty healthy happy and and Bobby Lee is good now but you know had real real serious problems and and woody and things like that there was conflict that seems to me to probably be a pretty prevalent theme with Comedians all it did you talk to her Kamala come on Lila sorry Did you get to get into his relationship at all was on the their their price there is I can't remember his name but you know there's inbetween folks that are sort of and then there was read what's her first name Jesse I just read who will all breathtaking and it showed I wanted to keep her together you've managed to like go in and out of the state so quick I haven't did you do that I have years of therapy yeah and the thought but I- which leads me into so over October which is Leeann crusher and my just for the month of October and this is interesting because she mentioned on this I isn't that awesome yes and he said he saw the front of the car as it went through the field that he was running through what's up with hand come on so we did that. Burt is reluctant to even go to a psychiatrist to be medicated because it his anxiety is so high drawl he's actually in withdrawal yeah right now it'll it'll ruin the mechanism that makes him funny and I was like no rest assured your wires will always be crossed but you just have these different pathways huzzah years of therapy it emotion focused therapy what I have found is things like dissociating or slipping into panic I have command over that now I go I'll yeah but his his it sounds like his anxiety levels through the roof and all days and exercising calming that anxiety but he's afraid of getting treatment because he's convinced it'll stop I want to be good and she knows it's just know what's going on but I kind of know how to push on things that kinda row roses in this country mostly due to obesity but rest assured level of consumption of alcohol that he maintains deliver yes it is alcoholic fatty liver so so so over October twelve October 'cause wreaks havoc on the wives U2 yeah why because novels yeah I was going to bring up the last time I was here you were like talking about your mother and you're like I just associated write them Anna back and how to help you well not only that this is a very common sort of misconception that artists have which is first of all you're going to crash and burn and then you're not going to be eight of her funny anymore if you don't care this if you wanna sustain it you got to like make it possible to stay funny right you have a life liver fatty liver you commented and then Iheart it deliver is yes it's one of the most the most common most significant cause I very deep into that and and it it you can't undo it all the way right I mean it stays with you which is the point I was gonNA sorry I hope I'm interrupting on this mission to hurt himself is that what this is oh by the way I don't know if I called in or comment on your instagram or something where he was talking but tender Roni yeah I try not to because I'm triggered by it because it's an abandonment issue blah blah blah right so that was mom though that mostly they're doing all that stuff he's already not home a bunch and we have two small children so it's linked at home but now he's fucking around hot yoga have you walked us up as you can have liver failure from that that should be like I liked leanna sort of odd to it because he was on on Joe Show and he was I'm wondering I'm wondering if you can spend more time with the kids I never would phrase I'm wondering because that's a therapy thing and I know that from listening to you whenever my shrink goes I'm wondering if like briefly discussing before we started coffee isn't coffee isn't bad for you there's always been concerned could cause pancreatic cancer that's lurks around there but that's been pretty much completely disproven there do I seem like the type who doesn't bring things quiet suffering type no-bid you somebody who's strategic and you might wait to bring it up doc dad merge there I was so proud we we did a live show at Caroline's yes and it was so great whole selling the don't prolapse Uranus shirts now you brought it up I'm wondering what what that affect is like would you bring these things up full on rage you're furious folks that biology is all still there but I I'll be aware of I know what it is I can kind of get back in my body it's the biology of trauma which is fastened which you're talking and and here's my codependency at work I think we must have people walking off the street is there a group of people not cool with the whole thing we were showing you can get enough iron from your diet but if you have heavy like what's called Meno Metro Russia which is heavy painful flow which some people have the meadow Metro Roger for disease for sure that he has and that is one of the precursors associates doesn't mean he's GonNa Throw says you have to not everyone gets roses but you can even dive alcoholic fatty liver is like I go I go gluten free and I was like Oh this is like a diet thing and she was like I know for sure we had feeling there is a paramedic and means in their screw with the reflux and I got that so I worry about that but that's it wow is it dehydrating you can be a little bit but uh-huh ladies menstruate like it is blood loss right they can be like you can sort of stay in balance if it's not heavy I believe now where did you go to medical school USA now when you were a student at USC ever I was straight I was going to be just Dr v Lots of antioxidants in it they're saying that three cups a day or people actually are healthier may have some anticancer properties do it so I'm on I can give you can make your reflux did nothing bigger than this because you should pull up your bigger than the okay sign can ask stupid questions number one we were shit whatever she's about to say is what's wrong with it works it works even you know people are doing visit you immediately get defensive when the string says so yeah no yeah just a lot of you know I wonder wonder wonder have you tried I wonder if a lot of that she seem she's very open to that stuff she's therapy she's a real person them brown man and he's got five not digging it got sort of aggressive and we're GONNA get violent if you're yeah yeah but I do that so tomorrow we're doing it I would actually like that because I feel like you should be chiming in on how she can help Bert they drink some water Jeffrey here okay I have a stupid question to mrs so damn almost embarrassed to ask it can't work I know you're doing your jet I power just making people upset and crying out method dot Com make you happy Tom Secure you get one day I'm going to be selling assure you should not pra luxury at the real justice somebody asked me what should go in and she helped birthright tried when they were both here and the guys that we have luck did you tell her because I haven't listened that one yet would you tell her we now I totally get it but she is put together person and so they just make serve Schmeichel hard so to speak the attraction control you can't control he's bleeding this folks and so I wanted to come in here what it was because she had some hills but I mean she's a put together person extremely especially in her she's so extremely so all right let me show we gotta get to these clips it's very important work we're doing okay so every time we're on your mom's house and a special case can you feel empathy when we yeah I'm not sure why you have that reaction I because your take talk stuff makes me feel Wlov bird class we all I it's just didn't she was so together to make sense to me that she would put up with some of this stuff I'll check God God and then it makes perfect sense I five right you love it horrible why because I feel sad for people laugh at it I know it is I understand why it's funny but I can't I might sadness yeah some of them are super like the real sad ones I don't put up put up the ones that I when they're really self unaware what's the word I'm Lee did that and now and Dad and dad dead colleague so there's Vaneman but yeah anyways it had some funny clips to show you let's not go there not today Dr drew is Love Acceptance I love them I'm giving them a platform to celebrate well I I like what's up in Harlem I was GonNa go visit I gotta go visit Gutting Krueger Affect Krueger yes it's stunning Krueger. They have done Kruger's they don't know how they're presenting I was wondering what did I found her history and I went oh okay it makes sense now that I don't love it's just one of them things and and I get it to for him right I mean you can understand why somebody would not he's charismatic he's adorable yeah what's not to love uh-huh floated I like red and overeating no no it just because it's a time suck it's the stuff like do ten hot yoga class they put this in the drew file so Christina's brought them to me to share them with me Ya okay which one can we start with Tante Tony John's ooh Yeah we can't any John I want to start with him so here's a here's the original video we have quite a bit to go through them if we want boy so here's the one that we hold on he did not come from Utah did he know Staten Island someplace he's a transplant so let's let's look at what we're seeing here okay about two years old what is it two years older than the other one so attractive never really good no I know a central race stupid okay ooh breakup are you gotta realize never you know a sexy Italian boy like me the most fucking driver and we didn't go back edition which prolonged or excessive bleeding occurs irregularly and more frequently than normal combination Raja and Minna Russia he's at Lumpur's away when are you going to be Carolina those shows April let's go let's go outside go with you town why not I don't I'll protect you let's table the discussion it's emotion okay but I want you to okay uh squeezed orange trump esque skin color again dunning Kruger doesn't realize yeah thrice of the liver sensor us right at the skit we'll have that all the time and yeah you gotta look at look at it up no no no no match Russia there is much to condition the woman is crazy yes you're so the Tammy Tammy pesky tally has its great joke thinner the eyebrows the crazier the girl and also the higher pseudo thing he's putting on so empty yes that I almost worry there's something like biologically wrong with him I want you to watch this doctor Dr and I want you to tell me what is going on what do you see okay go ahead the show so jealous got to go you know he does his interviews nude right or he donald duck's it like it's just a sure and no impressive to me them biggest hell of all with this guy is the crazy eyebrow crazy eyebrows to me go towards how bad they are read they're paying I could see the painting there don't see paying I just see oblivious now with the reaching for us I think it's the real deal I think it's it's obviously a level of narcissism and then going on but the go head injury could go you know Scott out baby let's go again Yeah Oh is Robert Paul Champagne I love Robert Paul Champagne he's I'm making a visit to him I think you should I think he would really like that or I'm not so sure about that third and so so there's something really amiss here so when I did show me a couple of this got my mind wandered yeah it's just your projection so I try to be someone that's right he called you some names he's just lashing out yeah he's a sweet shower and we can also just do a phone call no let's start with phone call and work our Way Sky you've seen this man yeah and at first I thought maybe it's a put on now with those eyebrows you couldn't go through life like that and be comfortable love him this is like a mild beetlejuice right you're right the Braggadocios sexual preoccupied Haitian fight you Beatles took beetlejuice from from the Howard Stern show has no cortex having two children and not sleeping before year's Kissidougou they were Dohrmann you had not had the second one young one was like Tom Hidden God all data as polite breakup ohare donkey me wrong ladies ladies jazz playboys in play girls Toyota's talking about Tommy John's I mean I'm scrolling every night just finding these gems it's not hard it's cotton brain was a manager of railroads and he was this super intelligent dude and he slowly turned into that no shit from the head and Jerry from the brain of other how many people around us are mentally ill percents off for are you kidding some made some diagnosis condition but you mean like major overpass is hyper sexuality around certain parts of the brain getting injured wow you know what's alarming Is that my husband and I were always noting to each spend a week out of jail maybe Liz Lake County drinks out girls he's on the list are you familiar with him somehow I feel so much better with you here watching the guide would I would I would I feel inappropriate and dirty I should else I mean that's great that's I just feel head injury this this is not this is not just plain the the tampering rod blow through his face out his head in eighteen sixty or something and he survived and he used to be let's get a beautiful day maybe we don't want it and moving their baby ooh I as we get set of jails pluses I sitter major is at a personality disorder. 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They can't control their impulses you ever so there's two things you need to read about you're going to start reading now ripen the case of phileas gauge it sounds familiar he's the guy that had the bouquet nutty nutty I'm saying I'm sensing here we go Paranoia Paranoia okay right he he literally as he has microbe Fallas microcephaly and he has three ruled injury I think like an the he can't contain himself some frontal release ashamed yeah I just want to say is this Katie you know what I'm saying I just got x CD but they've just relaxed brands social CBD Social CB focuses on broad spectrum oral some also heard about but it's also confusing so okay can we do the title Guy This guy is looks man hold set up your thoughts all right let me see of not psycho but what's the break from Reality Echo psychosis patch disconnected and then a little a bit and just playing playing narcissism it's not you saying next level started getting out of jail thing all fits with guessing here because I'm learning abby one for shits and gibbons I try to learn this next gentleman I'm assuming there's a little mental illness I'm GonNa sprinkle in just fresh come you know what you don't deserve this tally youngblood baby girl I got plenty of girl sitting me me like yes like something you know something where he really they're really really is nothing there they I really believe we've been through because of all the trauma I've been through an ink three market increase in precise disorders I believe that two wars poverty socially orders or as communist skin disorders this is fascinating so that's fifty percent of the population major metal source for like ten percent major percent of three hundred fifty million all right the the ones that are really out there yeah outer limits okay over you're bringing it up you're bringing up to call access to the personality disorders the and we did worst childhood trauma traumatize kids through sexual trauma physical worst cool cool who's got nasty you see this is what are you deserve observer measurer and you know so what do you see this like a fine wine wine testing I'm detecting notes they live whole tongue movements to tongue could be biological he's like we're going to actually love this gorgeous guy in his mouth fucking stated you find you girl in his day he's accused Saudi Z.. Related Utah They told me I want you to show me talking we got a lot to which exacerbates dear oppression frontal lobotomy is what he had you know and and there's something called Kluber Beauty Syndrome I think I've mentioned before you kind of liked it let's tell me awesome drugs that fun game I guess and then you tell me Matt Sounds Show me the game on record for a moment what is this place anyways but is place you don't need it I'm not a documentary this year I don't care I don't want this miracle you dumb son of a bitch okay you dumb son of a bitch I'm a private person I am American you stupid I think that's when I saw the psychosis mania it again but he's amplified for the case on your face close okay rather return he didn't fall Proto Buddy you're done it's like it's delusional you didn't follow pro there's no you know he's in my life and I told Tichy job my fucking life job bitch that's not what you said Aswell changed it to job because you take it out of context there what's your name anyways that's hard to tell shit cameras to show me more okay saint asylum but he just lost your life as far as your job goes you can't idea for you of having been near somebody with off makes me crazy I get that but you mentioned my teeth anytime Australian what do you do veneers down here we had caps and stuff I broke my teeth down there broke it for math no kid purcell side of serious trouble as the teeth around off the didn't you you that I have always talk about T- yeah yeah L. 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Five six years old but I you said something like you know the universal sign of really serious troubles accepted this guy and he's like I'm a former BUBBA follow protocol you're done delusion talk more about him how do you get a job here this polar bipolar I like the way the guy's abused by the game where he's playing say how am I going to get him to threaten peace officially they could pull out my tasers baiting because it's all on camera here so mainly American talk of my camera through a Faggot he I'm GonNa talk to the sheriff's department about she buddy okay go get them the okay so so it's more on the bipolar spectrum now so why is that sorry that note intrusion the intrusiveness and truth-ler what is he said that you're GonNa kill me now I can tell you yeah CD's wire just got your job there but he was already fruit and they can't stop talking and they're mania stuff I can tell you know and he got my welcome baby raper on your face of rape or you're the one looks like you take cops badges all the time doing you know who you're talking to retire double agent there you fucking retard double agent eating K. so let's go Kyle Cenex Nancy here what's your Gosh I am sensing this disorder the Danny Kaye Yeah what is concerned about this like soothe your security officers just move along get Outta here creeper okay keep going Nisa the boundary list so far I don't have the paranoia yet yes so a little little stuff also as he goes by fed smoker and he just interest because they're so visible all the time yeah you would think they would notice that do something about it even if it's just a ghost to get something put on top fucked up teeth and I just think that's true that teeth falling out loss of t the CA- can't care for your teeth itself was Jon Heyman he seemed harmless shrinking Ni Beatles those free that because they see all that Thomas now shit and then obviously meth is the one that's the real tell I mean if he if he had messed up teeth I was sort of go math I think ooh because the echolalia repetition and then the the language Saturday fish is easy maybe rape baby rape or escape from jail what's up there Chomo listen here what do you how do you get a job here fuck face talking like that you know what you're not did you burchard no more puncher no more accupuncture no longer I I agree with you it's something the language thing could be language thing and I think he's literally trying to communicate something to this song which is a bizarre impulse right like how do you communicate with other okay so he's going to report him you know what you're fired okay you didn't fall pro how do you get a job programs going to sing this fucked up song about and he's not a young boy now the young man so yeah are you going with yeah but but videos are pretty much always yeah I'm GonNa go for that okay mixed with maybe just a remember that staying alive guy maybe a sprinkle of some spectrum burqa good like the Biological Yakov okay go ahead roll that for Dr Drew Hi once went senior Owl's butcher no more acupuncture no more no more the ad we leave my mom she wanted to see puncture is that she had her see him more and to see what what are you looking twitch and grinding his teeth are one of the things do you one of the things you observe that has really sort of the unit what's it called the Danny Dan Kruger. 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I'm sorry guys and I'm GonNa get mad pictured once I find it I'm GonNa Make People Watch this guy in the head you're GonNa die I do guys say appreciate all the common does this term is is we got it thanks I'm going so you're GonNa say just pure spectrum as spectrum news all we got US little bits here we slash drew and boy be carrying with you a sensational workout plan wherever you want check them out and now let's get back to the show okay next up let's go through tech talk since we the Jug low convention what's it called Juggler meeting gathering the gathering so you're GonNa find this picture you're telling me that this was this man's life mentally emotionally I can't have a decent life Jiagelo thing in Ohio you don't do do you WanNa get assaulted that's why haven't gone yeah I'm afraid listen I won't they won't guarantee my safety let me just say every AH okay for those we've just listening go to youtube and you gotta see what I'm talking about right now he's got the full clown makeup but it's not full alcohol addiction I that that is a drug addict move well bro which drug makes you that crazy mess investors you know that's a close relative of Gigolo Heavier Matt or beyond space can reach and I'm trying turned my life around to the bad combo the best do the Best I can be whatever asked me to be like that I like on his mouth thick black bars and then under the eyes the two bars recent eyebrows Michigan or somewhere we're discussing on your mom's house is like what age do you think he got the Tad's I think it's relatively recently he's wearing his bottom put this under this we you mean to tell me that a man getting a clown tattoo on his face isn't bottom that's his bottom and then a man cutting take care I have people that lose limbs chopped their penises off yeah come on chopping a penis off it's a job let's talk about that next Oh okay let's talk about that because I did a deep dive on this man's account Oh my God the how dare you my favorite pick show on the show you this being violent J I know you've told me this do you think in all your years in addiction recovery work that this may be the worst bottom you've ever went this isn't a word our own pitas off that just ap this are you kidding me you've actually let me say Oh my God I gotTa Post the signs of can we send it in the his own penis may not have been the because then they get pissed about that and it's upset because he's more drug schrager yeah so I like this guy this guy I fully sign off on and at that tattooed on him all my God he did juggle o Fim Cheek okay all right yes see I told you and learning and and you know that knows thing is not going to come off very well so he's got a big he's got a bottom is getting new around that's what he's telling US yeah he says I discussed is ruined my life and I gotta go I gotTa go do something about this awesome like their dopes right pretty crazy crazy people they're crazy that I mean they're fanatics you know like they just like something a lot you know yeah this is a video of him getting his Tattoos Laser Osma come all off in one visit no teeth teeth right don't you know we all make mistakes they do this this whole prosthetic Mr Cole but having this off as has been destruction with them right they used to come level at all I love those guys I understand you're the best storyteller of all time listen they're great you know what I'm saying wearing is from his life unravel treated the GIGOLO thing on his face and he probably got great feedback select this guy about time thirty five years old yeah it is about time to do something to do with my life clown makeup on your permadi well that's what we a huge fan I love him he's a great kid great kid off type he's really sweet oh I hope he does he come back without no tattoo update I mean he's in the eight from the Juggle Oh let's work on getting icy peon here then drew Oh Hell Yeah Hell you kidding we don't need to guard texture recovery when they're loaded they're very entertaining I give you a journalist and we get this laser it off once he music straight up one of the reason I like working drug addicts there so goddamn funny yeah they're funny they're funny process of getting them removed this guy you're you're ninety five pitching ninety five digits with an S. yeah so this as long is traveling show me what are some other signs of trouble eyebrow piercings Do know those knows eyebrow can be okay take talk the premise is that you can do like thirty seconds of a song and then and so people just branch out into other areas of all time how great of a show love line yeah well this is sort of reinvigorate why do you think I I was begging you to do this because it's the greatest show ever pig village in Venezuela forty thousand dollars like his entire life savings she does she's zero intention of marrying him like he gave up everything and he goes holy crap okay so let's keep going keep going I wanNA do today fiance that's really complicated men she's on the journey of becoming sober and facial hair yeah I do too I have respect the shit out of it but it was pretty shocking I've never seen somebody it's black because he he filled it in pretty good yeah but that's just burning it and then the has to heal and back sweet explain to me how tattoo removal right yeah he's so sweet he's very sweet he's very kind of doughy exterior there they are he's very passive and he just gives and gives and gives disrespect them and don't give a shit about them Dade area yeah and there's this one guy who gave this woman in Oh yeah and so we're like why do what is that dynamic like an in-cell right except he's not in part of it he's Visa L. voluntarily celebrate and men get crazy when they don't have access to the female yeah they get very crazy they're like yeah oh ninety five pigeons this is my talk one minute I got faller he's the man he sends me like Juggle Heck no with violent J and Shaggy did is that his name shaggy iggy dope slinging dope nose that's my favorite this is the girl right in the pig farm yeah I mean we don't have any video you guys just disgusted okay what's the premise of this season of ninety day fiance the little he's running man on the side of his that's the juggle lows is symbolized symbol of smart yeah so he's God he's one of your people is my job Eliezer is a good one I mean this teeth chattering I think in pain he's like an NFL good it does not feel good this poor man what's his name for him the animals Evelyn there she is she's gorgeous and that's him and forget his name he looks like he's like thirty five and he's been a virgin probably I I wonder talks do we have on deck oh we just had that feeling so good okay I don't know it's just what people do you're a user is your wife fans sent you this guy yeah they're so great works essentially pulverizes the ink and your immune system comes in and eats it so that that's why it takes so many visits look at that that's pretty good and she's like she's basically using him and Tom was like you know Evelyn needs is a good effing like she needs a guy to just does that mean what talks day hang now singing house the one we picked was the the original basis buddy I've ever funny I'm serious I'm dead serious about this these juggling the the audience Nadaba UN to see this band Yeah Joe Ninety five percents say there's a show called nine day fiance the other way which is where Americans go mostly third world countries to be with people that uh-huh so you're you're passing horrors the pearsons under lip there faulk could ask you anything I want net keep in mind this manages walking up to the security guard it's there's no reason it's I get the impulsivity and the aggressor was to live with her and this horrendous village and he's just hunts lover so much Evelyn so beautiful and how did he meet her online oh no no no he was surfing in Venezuela inquiry and he gives him gives her and she just disrespecting him and Tom was under the impression that she was sexually abused when she was three right so you think so that's her towards me I believe about core shis okay so Johnny Young Hopkins He's a bit of a Dork Mormon upbringing missile sign of trouble this there's one just to the left is the universal teen mom Pierce and right in the middle there L. Drivers has he done that we think are relationships based on Mormon Tom's this girl ever title he's guys that trauma victims ago let's retraumatize so yeah that's my impression about early childhood trauma we learned he not pile driving me so he's like this bitch needs him corey to just essentially on his really the male should be if they're going to try to keep them virgins in involuntary or voluntary they got cage yeah so because they are just dangerous yes so yes that's the opposite of what she needs and what she's guide is Mormon Virgin yes it who's losing his mind because this hot chick in this environment per se I'm educated I am a licensed physician with special boards in American Board of Internal Medicine at American board of Addiction Madison really bothers me that we're going to push people back to tobacco which is what kills people worried about we have concerns about the only they quit smoking cigarettes without using a bathing alternative I never got nicotine patches gum stuff yeah active concerns are which with these bootleg THC vapes those are out really also all in all the problems are with THC stuff no flavored vaping is probably a good idea the nip pure nicotine vaping in every study that's ever been carried out a pot weed so not achieving I would avoid that definitely Novo bootleg vaping anything you know only sort of brand he's not somebody capable of intimacy no and said he didn't need it get some voicemails for us I guess right some time because I e cigarettes what killed now we are getting increasing concerns about the vaping right these people dying of lung reactions shows the vape nicotine to be the superior to almost any other method getting people off cigarettes off tobacco which is what kills so I've been an advocate for that for my head and right around the left side of my ear around my left ear if you give me some more insight onto that that'd be great young scenes so you need when he flew across the world he should be fifteen fifteen year old thing this is a fifty males behave right one hundred percent they get an obsession it was about vaping lately I tried to stop vaping for some reason by picking up smoking cigarettes theory some decision on my part intro music for the voice mail yeah hey mommy so I've been running into this problem where whenever I either rub rub rub or probably not an issue with with pure nicotine vaping so far there we don't know definitively yet that there's no concern probably no concern long-term of a bicycle handlebar public at least and reach up doc I get this splitting headache in like the back take to produce that and deal with it and stuff and and you know migraines are things you actually really don't want them to go unchecked because they can affect the blood flow in your brain health of your brain the value by neurologist because sometimes it can be a serious thing associated with like Andrews and stuff like that usually almost certainly is the case it's a post-coital headaches concern they see little DNA damaging the lining of the lung and they see certain inflammatory mediators activated which may or may not mean trouble but they're concerning and so they don't I don't know language you haven't made any friends you're not on your own you just sticking by me all the time God you're so annoying one of these yes she didn't pick them up at the airport I'm weak and she's mad because he hasn't figured it out yet that she doesn't give a shit vigor what I know she's upset with cory because she's like you've been here for like a week double but once we really find out exactly what happened with these T. 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Vapes I'll be better able to sort of be definitive about this in the meantime the first two weeks you stop cigarettes is the most significant I'm trying to get off his holy wondering if you have any thank you so much keep it high and tight lump this show all right I am so sorry this whole vaping it's this is the product the read this literature extensively and the only thing I can see definitively as if you have asthma or if you're an adolescent you shouldn't use it that's everybody else there's so hypnotherapy I went to a hypnotherapist at thirty years old I haven't smoked in thirteen years one session with a hypnotherapist Gergo night terrors we running down the street feeling like something out to get me I freaked out many families if I stayed at their house for sleepovers I would imagine I ran face first into walls kicked and shattered windows called which is some people get severe headaches right after orgasm here's I just buy grain type phenomenon and so there are oh my God i never got an answer why this happened to me I was just curious if you have an answer you know real rubbing raised around chaos and trauma are the long leg long term consequence course so so there's concern about long-term but as I was getting people have tobacco I think I think we gotta have that option of in which you're likely to relapse which is why use the patches and the gum and you might WanNa do doctor supervision because most people don't use enough a lot like couple of patches and a Lotta Gum and surgery oh here's a girlfriend says she gets sad because of negative ions talk to your theme about dumb people which apparently very prevalent at the ranks of -PEUTIC process You can the crazy thing about the world we live in today is you can use logic anymore no Jordan Peterson was saying that there used to be what Berkeley and sometimes it really intense orgasm I- oscillate between laughing hysterically and cry sobbing it's only ever happened with one part U. M. A. again a seizure disorders associated with this Other kinds of peculiar sleep disturbances you might want to have an actual sleep study if you can do that to see exactly what's going on here Jason Statham get the hell out of there this is not because she's therapy I know what she needs but she's not this is not what he imagines what he imagined no Dr we spend together about four years does not happen when I masturbate. I've tried googling this but I don't find much online so my question is eh bad you just miss them they can't bear it Kathy yes so this is just him being a bit of a naive young and is it sal talk staring down the barrel of cigarettes and I was wondering if you have any tips for ideas on how connect your drill my name is Jake again of the show the chain of the mom is over at your mom's house with home the email about a urine queen was but you know you can't force people to be saying you can't force them to engage in a third got a bunch of questions we had who was in here last week gentleman Kelsey Kelsey Cook in here and Multiple Multiple Orgasms I believe that human can be affected by Subatomic particles that way instead she suggested that she talk through what's bothering it very nice dated for five years and this is the first please let's look at this data you don't trust the data you don't believe the data because of your worldview how would we how can we change the head to help you 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What You Should Know About The Defense Production Act

On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts

47:33 min | 4 months ago

What You Should Know About The Defense Production Act

"From NPR WB. You are Boston. I'm Meghna Chakrabarti and this is on point until very recently most Americans had probably never heard of the defense production. Act A law. That's been on the books for seventy years and used hundreds of thousands of times. Here's President Harry Truman. Announcing the signing of the DP in nineteen fifty law also enable the government to make sure that defense order have top priority that manufacturers got the steel aluminum copper and other material. D- they need to fill such artists. This law gives the government the power to prevent the hoarding of raw materials. That definition of defense is broader now than it was in one thousand nine hundred fifty it includes energy security and national disasters. Say like a global pandemic so this hour on point we ask. What exactly is the defense production? Act what when has it had been mobilized in the past and what four and more importantly? How's it working today as the nation confronts a new National Challenge? And we'll start with Margaret. Amara she's a professor of history at the University of Washington. She worked in the White House and the Department of Health and Human Services in the Clinton administration and she's author of a recent opinion piece in the New York Times headlined. America is at war. And there's only one enemy Professor Romero welcome to on point. Hi Matt Great. Great to be here. It's great to have you First of all let me ask you what was happening in the late. Nineteen forties and nineteen fifty that led to the passage and signing of the Defense Production Act. Well magnet was a very different time and political challenge. It was that the heating up of the Cold War This is Soviet. Threat is something that is premier on American policymakers minds and President Truman's minds Two months before the Before Truman announces that Signs the Defense Production Act North Korea's soviet-made tanks rolled across the thirty eighth parallel and the Korean War had begun and the head of the very real threat of of Soviet increased. Soviet domination of the globe was something that was primarily on on on Truman's mind. So that was really you know containing communist aggression. Scream is German put. It was the was the main the main purpose and saw the mobilization of American industry as essential but it was a very bold move kind of putting America on a wartime footing when it wasn't officially at war interesting so the looming political threat of communism as seen by by nine hundred forty S. nineteen fifty America. And when you say it was a bold move and what about the Defense Production Act was so bold for the time well? It was a real. I guess the president pretty sweeping powers ultimately to manage the economy to direct industrial production to prioritize The production of raw materials and also You know to to make sure that there were materials to build the armaments needed and also to tell factories. Okay you're not gonNA precipitous. As many consumer goods. You're going to produce defense goods and it also involved raising taxes. Truman in announcing it on of emphasize. We're GONNA pay as we go. We're GONNA have to. Every American is going to have to make some sort of sacrifice but the other backdrop to this was economic After World War. Two there was great. Concern that the US would very legitimate concern that US would go back into the Great Depression. The wartime mobilization of the early forties kind of gotten people off the unemployment lines for real for the first time. And so what the you know. The rationale for the for the DP was also that revving for defense production could also be really grateful the American economy. It could put people to work. It could help. Businesses get their production lines at full capacity and keep them. They're interesting so so. This is a way of which the federal government than is what directing key industries in the economy. Unlike unlike it had before. Yeah well it. The DP A had a template and that was the war powers acts that Franklin Roosevelt had used to mobilize industry during World War Two As the US is ramping up and formally engaging in it so there was a there was a precedent but of course it was during a World War. So this was this was a departure And also initially the GPA can include things like wage and price controls like really trying to keep keep inflation from Under control all of these other all these policy instruments were baked into it now. That was pretty short short-lived and Truman and to be clear. This was not something that was universally welcomed untrue. Men's moves to to to really fully implement the DP late nineteen fifty were were met with some you know dissent dissension. Congress and concern about That that he was taking too much and then when Eisenhower became president a couple of years later he actually backed off a little bit off the GPA took away some of the authorities the president had tell industrialists what they can pay people and how much they could charge for their goods. Okay so so descent over that level of control those wage and price controls. You were talking about so as you just underscored. Those went away pretty quickly but the but the defense production act though still has has Been reauthorized multiple times by Congress In fact as I mentioned at the beginning the definition of the national defense under the DP has has broadened in the past seventy years. That's right it has brought an and it's been reauthorized continually and it's yeah. It's Kinda shifted with the Times just as it was the product of nineteen fifty it was. It's been updated over time. Reflect what the national security concerns. Were AT WAR. The moment In the early nineteen seventies Richard. Nixon used to I reintroduce wage and price controls. Again as he's trying to stabilize a changing American economy and global economy and also during the oil crisis of the nineteen seventies. It was used to ensure that there was that that was essential. It was considered essential to national security to two at mid the OPEC oil embargo of Nineteen seventy-three nineteen seventy four That we have these these moments where it's been used for energy crises. It's been invoked for National Security. You know national security as you said has had kind of an expansive definition over the years and it's no longer just aluminum and copper for airplanes so with the global pandemic of Cova nineteen given the history of how the Defense Production Act has been used over the past seventy years. Do you think this is a moment for the DP to be used in its fullest force or its fullest potential. I think this this is yes. you know what we're seeing? Here is the critical. Need for national level mobilization You know in the last ten days there you know you see these states kind of competing against one another four For vital materials. You see prices being driven up. You see people a Profiteering off of this crisis. And having you know the GPA is it is a very powerful act. And I think one of the things that is I opening about it and and really reflects this reflects a. There's a the President Has American. Presidents have a great deal of power and This is a very powerful tool. That's in the president's arsenal but you know it's there for a reason and it can be Can create order out of chaos and rationalize this production chain in a way that will make deliver things faster to more people order out of chaos interesting. So folks we are talking about the defense production. Act this hour and we want to know what your questions are about how it has been used in the past. What the intent of the DP. A is and your questions about how it's being used right now in the battle against the global pandemic of Cova Nineteen Margaret if you can just hang on here for just a moment I want to introduce now into the conversation Steve Vladeck. He joins us from Austin Texas. He's an expert on Constitutional Law National Security Law and federal jurisdiction. He's a professor at the University of Texas Law School as well Professor Vladic. Welcome to on point the great to be with you so we have news today that the Department of Health and Human Services is announcing a four hundred and ninety million dollar contract with General Motors for thirty thousand ventilators to be delivered to the strategic national stockpile by the end of August so by the end of the summer But it's the first contract apparently for ventilator production Under the defense production. That just happened today. so what would you say? Or how would you rate the trump administration's use of the EPA prior to today in the over the past month? While I'm a prior to today the end sort of been a zero And I think you know with today. Maybe we're up to a one and a half. I mean I think the you know the broader problem is as Professional Mara suggested There are these sort of spectrum authorities under the statute And it's not just a government has been unwilling to us even the most coercive of these authorities which is basically to create these strong financial incentives for companies to shift production into other goods and services. Is that it. Hasn't even been willing to use the week version which is just a government priority in contracts which is apparently what we saw this morning with. Aj GM methods April eighth. It's been sixty eight days since secretary as our declared a public health emergency. It's been three weeks. Since president trump said he was invoking the EPA and here. We finally have a little bit of movement that to my mind is too little and way too late. Well couldn't possibly could there be credence to the trump administration's in the president in particular his reluctance to use the heavy hand of government in in the free market. I mean that's professor o'mara was saying to US earlier. There has been some concern from the start that the DP could be a tool of federal overreach in the American economy. I think that's certainly a concern. And I think you know we can look at some of the past indications of statute and wonder if it was really necessary but when we had this kind of unprecedented nationwide public health crisis combined with a clear ass. Romar described it. You know capacity problem where different jurisdictions are now basically competing with each other and bidding against each other for the same scarce resources. It seems to me that that's exactly what the DP was designed for. And more to the point. It seems like the efforts by the trump administration to characterize this as nationalizing industries is a pretty radical mischaracterization at the statute. I mean the the most coercive authority under the statute is authority where the executive branch has the power to create a remarkably powerful financial incentives for industry to do at the federal government needs You know I don't see that. As the strong hand of government I see that as rich purse of government and that seems wholly consistent with our values. Well Steve Vladeck and Margaret o'meara standby for just a moment talking about the Defense Production Act. What is what. It's intended to do and how it's being used today. We'll be back. This is on point. WanNa add more positivist to your podcast feed checkout kind world stories of extraordinary kindness and compassion. That's kind world. Subscribe now on Apple podcasts. Or WHEREVER YOU LISTEN. This is on point. I magnin Chucker Birdie. We are holding up a magnifying glass to the defense production. Act this hour trying to understand what its original intent was how it's been used. And by the way it has been invoked hundreds of thousands of times in the past seventy years by every administration that's occupied the White House and what it could be used for today in the fight against the global pandemic of covert nineteen. I'm joined today via skype from Seattle by Margaret. O'meara she's a professor of history at the University of Washington and Steve vladeck joins us from Austin Texas. He's a professor at the University of Texas Law School now Professor Professor Vladic. Here's what I'd like to do In sort of taking that that magnifying glass to the EPA Margaret with you. I'm GonNa what I'm GonNa do is I want to ask about the individual titles of the DP that remain and then Steve. I'M GONNA turn to you and ask how those titles have been specifically utilized right now by the trump administration with particular companies. Okay so it's almost like we're having a tag teaming teaching moment here. Is that okay with both of you because I really want to understand the details here? Because that's where the devil supposedly are always lies now Margaret from what I understand the of the original seven parts of the DP from nineteen fifty. We've got three. That remained idle one. Three and seven. Is that right. Yes that's right okay. So title one contains the these priorities and allocation authorities from executive. What what does that mean? Well that means that the that the executive branch can kind of ensure that there's a portion of whatever industry is producing that is Retained about four national security uses or defense use. So in a way. Saying you know you can't produce all of your ventilators for example and send them to whatever customer will pay the highest price. We are essentially going to be a We're GONNA hold them back now. I one of the things about all of these titles is that this is. These are all a- combination of carrots and sticks. So this is this is why the GPA has has worked and why it's and this is really a hallmark of the way that the US government does business with business. It is both incentives. It's like look we're going to buy the stuff from you and we're going to pay you for it you know it's not that you're not going to make a profit it has been very profitable to do business with the government over time but we also are going to tell you you know you just can't just do what you want. There are higher higher priorities. Okay so then it. Should it come perhaps to no surprise that the Defense Department itself is the most frequent user of this title one portion of the DP right? I'm seeing here that in two thousand eighteen it just the dod itself used at three hundred thousand times to be sure that it had access to the materials and goods needed for the United States military. Okay that's title one St. Let me jump over to you here. We've we've heard we've been told that the trump administration invoked the defense production. Act Say two three M for the production of masks and personal protective equipment. How did they use title? One in it in regarding three am so I mean this is this is where things get messy because of how the headlines are actually diversion from what the administration actually did so in a in a memorandum that was issued last Thursday. The president said that he was directing the Secretary of Homeland Security to use any and all authority available under the GPA. To acquire from three am the number of end ninety five respirators at the administrator determines to be appropriate and so you know if we look at that provision with says. Hey Secretary home security you figure out. How many of the respirators already in three M's possession? We the federal government need. I'm here by authorizing you to buy them And that's a title one measure because it's not asking three M to produce anything new. It's just put it on the federal government at the front of the lie and to buy the resources that are already in three m's possession so it used title one then appropriately in that case is it did it. We don't know right because men though the promise that what the President keeps doing. Is You keep issuing these memoranda that direct to other members of his administration to take particular steps if they decide. Certain preconditions are present. And we're not hearing much about the follow up right. That is to say the president is not ordering action. He's authorizing action and then deferring to his subordinates. And it's just not clear from a lot of these headlines. How much do subordinates are? Actually doing I don't think we've seen anything public from the Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf further to last last Thursday's order specifying the exact number of respirators. He wants to buy so you know this is. This is the tricky part is that it's not actually an invocation of the DPMA. Until the the Chad Wolf of the world actually exercises the authority to buy stuff from three M or until the as we saw this morning secretary as our signs a contract with with GM to produce ventilators in the title three context. So this is where I think the press reports have been a bit misleading because it's not invoking the GPA to just say hey subordinate when you feel like it you can't. It's just basically pulling the safety off of the gun. Not Firing I see. But but ostensibly Margaret the idea. Is that through? Title One of the EPA. It helped this isn't too rudimentary an analysis of it but it puts the federal government at the front of the line if they start saying. Here's the contract. We want you company X. to fulfill and that's that's one of the powers of it that's right and this is I mean. This is the hallmark of the DP. A and I think this is why this has been such as such a challenge is as Steve explained. It's you know the president can can sign up. Sign it invokes. Something can say something but the actual implementation happens within the bureaucracy itself and sometimes very deeply within it which is one reason that it's been invoked all these times and you know it doesn't make headlines. Right this is. This is one of the things and one of the many many things the federal government does that we just kind of living below the political radar screen. I think another interesting challenges that this has indeed been primarily used by Defense Department as you observed and so now it's now it's hhs now it's these other agencies that haven't been front and center and the many times. The DP has been invoked. It isn't part of the regular you know way they do business and so And when you have a president and an administration that is reluctant to direct industry to the fullest extent the Truman administration had no reluctance in December nineteen fifty as the DPMA is kind of Wurley into gear. Truman appoints the president of general electric steps off from his job. Becomes too should lead this mobilization effort and Truman's like Okay Charlie Wilson. His name You do whatever you can go for it. And so they went for it and and so this is a real contrast. Now interesting okay. Well so one would imagine in an ideal circumstance though is not an opportunity Margaret for some Inter Agency cooperation. If there's a lot of body of expertise at the DOD to help out Depar- to tell about hhs right now. I yes I would think so the. Us military is excellent at large-scale mobilization. Logistics they're very very good at it and so the fact the opposite defense mobilization was where the GPA forty rested for a very long time and and they know you know the military knows how to do this but it just has not fully come together yet. Right so Steve. Before we step away from title one of the Defense Production Act. I did want to ask you one of the things that it allows. The executive branch to do is as Margaret explained. Earlier is say well. These certain materials or equipment are are so important that they need to be used for Government purposes or directing companies to sell to certain places or put them in various parts of supply chains around the country. My point is that hasn't the trump administration done this to a certain degree with three M. again using them as our example by say die by telling three him or blocking the company for fulfilling those overseas contracts for those and ninety five masks so I think the answer is to a point but again it goes back to something press. Ramar said the devil really is in the details and you know maybe that was your point. That it's one thing for the president to make this big splash and say we're GONNA stop three M from fulfilling overseas contracts. But it's another thing to see exactly what that produces with regard to the exact numbers of and ninety five respirators that the Acting Secretary of Homeland Security Exercising Authority. The president has delegated to him. Actually buy from three. Ed So this is I mean. This is a way in which there's something a little bit of a trap Because on the one hand three M is now going to not be in a hurry to sell these respirators overseas on. The other hand might be very well. Wait him right for the government to figure out how many it wants to buy. That's why this sort of you know I'm using it but I'm not really using it. Approach is perhaps the worst of both worlds where the president is claiming the authority to take these pretty big important steps but isn't necessarily actually using it in the first instance. Okay this is so fascinating so this title one puts the the federal government and federal contracts at the front of the line so to speak and then in terms of sort of how the different parts of the DP that allow for different things to happen quickly title. Three is really interesting Margaret If I understand correctly titled Three of the deep allows the president then to say. Hey we're going to give grants and loans to maintain this ramped up dement domestic production capacity for as long with needed. Is that right? Yeah so this is a great example of the carrots right creating incentives or business to to behave in a certain way and to ramp up production and this going back to the early years of the DP was really critical. I mean what happens in the wake of the. Gpa is what Dwight Eisenhower later. Labels the military industrial complex is incredible ramp up where you get to a point. Where defense in production is thirteen percent of GDP It is not only producing you know turning the US into a military superpower but it is employing people it is Enriching COMPANY BOTTOM LINES. And so this is again kind of classic. American this is the way the US this we have. So many instances throughout American history of the way that the public sector and the particularly the executive branch since really the age of Lincoln have used these insent book mandates and incentives to encourage industry to to behave in certain ways and in ways that also allow private sector profit. Do we see that carrot? Then Steve. Thus far in in any way that the trump administration has invoked the EPA again. Let's stick with the three M example. Is it there? I think we did it with a three hundred sample and I think that better example of the characters. What's been going on with GM on that? You know for all of the president's Criticize him of GM on twitter. You know the contract this morning. A HALF A billion dollar contract to GM to make a product. It doesn't actually usually make in this kind of capacity. It's a pretty big carrot contract. I think is for thirty thousand ventilators Which works out to somewhere. North of sixteen thousand dollars per unit So this is why. I think the the notion that the DP is the the heavy hand of government nationalizing industry really does little hollow. I mean yes. It is the government you know us and it's very persuasive pocketbook to push. Industry is to do things they might not otherwise wanted to no one. No one's not getting paid at the end of the day and I think that's why the GM example is such a powerful one of of how this Dashiki supposed to work but also why this could have happened a lot. Faster Interesting Margaret. I'm saying though that in the in the cares act recently passed by Congress That there's a one billion dollar carve out for DP purchases through the Defense Department for medical and protective equipment. So it's there. I mean maybe not directly from the White House but it's there in the Dod Right. Yeah it's there. I mean the DOD had there again. These authorities are there and I do love the GM as wonderful kind of symmetry here of course because in during World War Two but the the president of GM Roosevelt persuaded to leave his job. And run the whole milk mobilization effort and and and among other things change GM's production line from making passenger cars to making jeeps and tanks and other things so it's you know what everything old is new again in a way And these these even these individual companies have a long history of working with the government with the Defense Production Act and its predecessors okay. So let's take a look at the this final part. Dp A title seven. It seemed to be the one. That's the sort of it was the most difficult for me to wrap my head around. provides authority for the government to enter into voluntary arrangements with private companies. What is titled Seven All about Margaret? We'll title seven is again. You know this is building new capacity. Were capacity isn't doesn't already exist and it's really part. I mean this part of this broader story of the government as customer the government as a real driver of Ab- certain types of industries most notably the defence contracting industry which you know for for a solid seven decades has been a very important and profitable part of the economy. And then there'd been companies you know like for example. Lockheed Martin or Boeing. You are both have commercial and Defense Gary Big Defense Lines of business But I but I'd Article Seven has also is one of those places where it's changed over time. There carve outs for small businesses that that emerged when it became clear that you know this is generally defense contracting in this type of partnership with the government Large companies the most well equipped to do it particularly if you're working in these emergency circumstances you need a GM that has the resources on all of the you know it can do things at scale But there's you know I think what it also reflexive there is an economic upside or there's an economic effect of all of this right. This is the the the defense economy is an important part or the government driven economy. Not just defense is an important part of the American economy and so Kind of spreading Matt geographically spreading to different types of businesses. This is something that of course members of Congress have have been in you know advocates of over time to make sure that you know. It isn't all concentrated. It's in certain companies and certain geographies also to that point Steve. We've got about a minute and a half before to take a quick break but I'm Jane Chong in the Atlantic wrote that she sees title seven as the tool that would've empowered the trump administration her words to turn relative relevant portions of a competitive market safer masks into a cooperative. One that that is the that is the means of bringing very quick efficiencies in emergencies like this that title seven would have offered. What do you think of that? I mean I think Jay's exactly right now it actually commend her essay what I think is titled how to actually use the DP to everyone you know. There are two parts of the story here. One is that the government has not even as of this date been willing to fully deploy the authorities the GPA creates especially with regard to title seven. But also to that. Even the deployments were starting to see you with regard to the mask order last week to three m with regard to the ventilator contract this morning with GM these are sort of modest half-measures and they're coming so late in the game that it's almost like these half-measures would have made a lot more than at the early part of this crisis and if those had not been sufficient then you see more aggressive measures. That were only here today. I think part of why you know. The government's response in retrospect is going to be viewed as pretty lethargic. Well Steve Ladder and Margaret Amirah. Hang on here for second a lot more questions and I will take a couple of calls as well from our patient listeners. About the Defense Production Act. We'll be back. This is on point. Hello just dropping into remind you about here now. We cover the day's most essential news with context so you know the why and what's next a fast paced snapshot of the World Every Day. Listen to here and now on. 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He's a law professor at the University of Texas with us from Austin Texas. Now just before the break Margaret in Steve. We had talked about that title. Seven of the Defense Production Act and I wanted to just quote a little bit more from Jane. Chong's really excellent piece in the Atlantic because she sees title seven other DP as quote allowing The executive allowing the president to quote bring together industry heads and consult with persons of outstanding experience and ability to devise strategies for addressing shortages approved voluntary agreements and plans of action that allow coordination among members of private industry and provide businesses entering into these agreements protection from antitrust liability so Margaret. First of all. Did we see that kind of coordination in say nineteen fifty or under the Eisenhower Administration? We did we dead. I mean this has been you know. Business leaders and big business leaders have been partners with government in this You know you had Presidents have typically. You know tapped. What they what they used to dollar a year men people who would leave their six figure. corporates you know jobs of CEO's and presidents and come in and help out often help the Defense Department or health. The executive branch mobilized do industrial mobilization. We saw this during World War. Two with Again tapping the the the head of General Motors to to do that in the early days of of the mobilization were to A you saw it again in the Truman years with the tapping the head of General Electric. You know name your big company And so this coordinating function is again very important. It's not just the bureaucrats or the military or the or the Whitehouse telling industry what to do. It's actually bringing Having industrial leaders be part of the process and working with both as persuaders and also As you know bringing their their business sensibility to work with business in the suffer so in the current context how that quick and effective synchronization of effort between industry and the government. How that might come into play a why that might be important. I think was has been very clearly articulated by some of our state governors because for example just a couple of weeks ago New York governor. Andrew Cuomo really pleaded with the federal government to coordinate a strategy over procurement regarding equipment on To Fight Kovic. Nineteen and he was saying states shouldn't be competing with each other or even with the federal government for these resources they could distribute those goods by need rather than having these states all compete against each other. It would also be less expensive because it would avoid the price gouging that is now happening in this marketplace. I can tell what's happening. I'll contract with a company for one thousand masks. They'll call back minutes later and say the price just went up because they had a better offer. Lets New York Governor Andrew Cuomo two weeks ago? Steve Ladda caddy respond to that. The whole part of and I think this goes back to title one of the EPA. The part of why Congress wanted the federal government to be able to go to the front of the line was because if the federal government could basically be the sole buyer or even the principal buyer. It could set a uniform. Nationwide Price And you wouldn't have this situation where every jurisdiction is left basically to bid against itself and in an essence basically to bid each other up whereas you know governor. Cuomo suggested you see these prices. Go Up you know. This is where the federal government could have really made some positive impact earlier in the process. And I think the EPA would have been one of the ways one of the principal hooks for doing so okay. Well let's take a couple of calls here. Let's go to mark who's calling from Madison Wisconsin. Mark you're on the air. Hi thanks In a related type question so the GPA is intended to acquire materials or services right and then distribute So is it clear in the language of the actor and passed a uses of the at what agency or government department then is intended or we do that coordination is it through Homeland Security? Dhs The the Fema how how would it actually work right? Good question mark. I mean Margaret. Do you have an answer for him? Well historically in the very beginning it was centralized I. It was the National Security Resources Board. Which is one of these early Cold War creations from the late forties? And then the Office of Defense Mobilization In the nineteen fifties it's generally been centered around In the Defense Department but it has its over time there. Are It's very It's become decentralized I think that that market's really hitting on this this key. This is a key issue here and not only are we do. We have a lot of different agencies within the federal bureaucracy from the Department of energy to the Department of Defense. That have it over time. Use this although it's primarily in the Pentagon but now we have this is you know making ventilators and mass. This is this is a very these are very different sets of of departments. That are now involved in this and there again pointing to this need for coordination of a broader process at the executive level and also just having simply having some federal intervention to begin with. Let's go to Seoul. Who's calling from Stevens? Point Wisconsin soil. You're on the air. Hello Crater here. You your excellent. Guests have really impressed to things on the logistics. There's a key implementation of the DP A and B. The Department of Defense is the most experienced using it The president is just fired. The acting Inspector General for DOD. Who has the most experience at this kind of thing? And I'm wondering what effect this is going to have any implementation in the future. You're talking about Glen. Fine Right yes okay. So so still. Thank you for that question. Steve Lack thought about that one or two. I mean I think it's it's it's a great question so the Inspector General's principal job is not necessarily to supervise the upfront coordination implementation but rather to serve as an accountability mechanism to make sure that there isn't fraud or abuse or waste or illegality in how these priorities are implemented and so I guess my my concern with the the second of Glenn. Fine with the president's apparent move to to fire a whole bunch of other inspectors general some of whom are in departments. Were this is up a key. Point is that now that we're actually seeing the government start to flex its muscles under the GPA. Can we be confident that those muscles are being flexed? The right way that is to say that the orders the government's make an are above board. That there's no corruption that there is no waste And I think this is where have robust oversight from inspectors. General is an important back. End Accountability A mechanism mcnabb. Because that's the way to make sure that as the government spending really a ton of money in these emergency situations you know. It's not spending more than it needs to be an. It's not for someone's personal pecuniary gain as opposed to was in the best interest of the country. Well let me just little tangent here just for a second because I mentioned a couple of times during the show that the DP has been invoked hundreds or used hundreds of thousands of times by every administration since one thousand nine hundred fifty. I think I mean the trump administration before covert nineteen had had used it a couple of times right before for example for procuring. If I remember correctly rare earth minerals that were Blit are important for a number of reasons titanium challenges. That's it yeah. Tell me more about that reminded about that. Steve Reviving applies at anyone. Do about it. So the this goes back to where we started which is that the EPA is actually used all the time especially by the Defense Department And you know this is not sort of outside a contest on February twenty seventh while we were at the various sort of beginning of this crisis. there's a memorandum from the director of From the president right to the Secretary of defense and a bunch of other cabinet officials on the effect of titanium sponge imports on the national security. Right here's a context where there's a particular good a titanium sponge that is of significant value to US national security interests and where to ensure that there wasn't a deficit in the supply curve right. The president directs all of these government officials to make sure that we can make up for any shortcomings on the import side was domestic production. And that's the kind of move that was happening every day. Even during the trump administration outs out of sight below the radar where this kind of use of the statute just never promote that much controversy. It's only now that it's in the limelight and as being like them to some degree you know over portrayed as this intrusion into private industry that all of a sudden it's controversial interesting okay. Let's go back to the phones. Let's go to Chuck. Who's calling from through in Massachusetts? Chuck you're on the air hello Who knew that it was used hundreds of thousands of times? I think all of us thought of it as you know ordering somebody who makes Washing machines to make something for the military I'm always concerned when national emergencies. Prompt individuals to want to give up their rights and when power gets more centralized so I am all for The very Discretionary and you know limited use This is a unique emergency And I don't think again will have to mobilize anyone to make maths. I think next time we'll be ready just like we don't have to you know. Have somebody make guns because we need them? We are ready if we go to war and I think next time we'll be ready or more ready when we go to this war which inevitably I think we will go again Well Chuck thank you for that. Call and Margaret. Chuck's comment makes me think that there is this tension. I mean you. You talked about Eisenhower warning against the military industrial complex right and that the DP was one of the tools by which we see an expansion of federal power. Here I mean is is that a continued concern. It is the continued concern and this has been attention in the DP A and the broader role of military spending but also the role of government in the economy since since the nineteen fifties. I'm Dwight Eisenhower coined. The Term Military Industrial Complex in his farewell address that he gave he left office in early. Nineteen sixty one and actually I would encourage listeners to go go look it up and read it. It's a fascinating speech. Kind of what? He's talking about in the worries that he that he's expressing but he also in that speech even though we saying we should be you know. Make sure that these this sector of the economy isn't too powerful in these companies aren't too powerful. He's also saying this is necessary and essential. This is the reality reliving in and I think. Chuck's comment raises this really important. This is something we see throughout America certainly modern American history but really throughout American history that that crises wars pandemics prompts new new ways of government new forms of government action out of the nineteen eighteen. Flu Pandemic comes new new ways at the the. Us addresses public health after out of the Great Depression and out of World War. Two come new new partnership between between industry and workers in the government and and new authorities including the defense production at well since you mentioned world. War Two Steve. I'm curious in tip of the hat to my producer. Steffano cut sona who who thought of this question. I think it's fantastic that Winston Churchill right none other than Winston. Churchill said that America always does the right thing in the end after having exhausted all other possibilities. Does that apply in this situation? I mean your point is well taken that there were a lot of There was a lot of potential. What the Defense Production Act could've assisted earlier a month. Two months three months ago we started late though. Is there some way forward? Now where the the potential for this act to assist people on the frontlines of this health disaster we can. We can get that going. I mean I think there's no question the answer to that is yes. Ma'am I mean right that that if if the president were to have woken up today and said you know what we've been too timid as of today. I'm going full bore on the defense production. Act here are twenty concrete steps that I wanted to take over today. Yeah I think that probably could have made a difference but you know we haven't seen any evidence of that and just to go back to the big story you lead. You lead this conversation with the the news today about the HHS contract with GM we should we should make sure we all are clear on the time that the contract is to produce thirty thousand ventilators sometime by the end of August straight You know I very much hope that. By the time those ventilators are produced. They're completely unnecessary. you know but one or two games. It's GonNa be true either. That's going to be where we end up where we have a whole bunch of extra events later as we as the crisis has already passed or were still knee deep in the crisis in August in a way that maybe could have been mitigated. Had more of this authority been used more aggressively an earlier date. I completely agree. I mean we don't want to have to use them in August but we'll at least will have them in the national stockpile at that time. Well that's right and that and that's and that's a good thing and that also might help us fight the next war. But we're still in the middle of fighting this right so Margaret Sanger. Same question to you. What do you see or given. What does history tell somewhat the best way forward might be now well? History gives us also shows us that in prior mobilizations there have been false starts. They have been stumbles. The ramping up of wartime mobilization and the before the two years before. Pearl Harbor when the US was was providing armaments to Great Britain and others. was You know there was. It was a process of and it was not smooth And again the Defense Production Act was something that both You know was a had a great impact but also courted controversy and something that Dwight Eisenhower modified when he came into office curb some of its some of its really expansive provisions So you know we just false start doesn't mean that you shouldn't keep on trying and there isn't an opportunity to get it right and I think that what history points towards is the importance of of of coordination and at this is not something new. We do this all the time. Well Margaret Almeira professor of history at the University of Washington author of the Code Silicon Valley and the remaking of America Margaret also had an opinion piece in the New York Times headlined. America is at war and there's only one enemy we've got a link to that at all point. Radio DOT ORG Margaret. Thank you so much for joining us today. Sprays and Steve Vladeck an expert on Constitutional Law National Security Law and Federal Jurisdiction and a professor of law at the University of Texas with us from Austin Steve. Thank you so much for being with us as well backs. Better the great to be with you. I'm Meghna Cardi. This is on point.

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Reasons Why Im Single  Episode 204 For the Foot Fetish

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Reasons Why Im Single Episode 204 For the Foot Fetish

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Can People think that I'm the biggest nurses? Sometimes because my sarcasm is narrows one coworker. There's been multiple that did not like me many moons ago. I can't be mad at her because if I weren't me and I saw me. I'll be mad at me to my last day weren't by co-worker quoted that back to that's how I remember you. I'm like that's awful. Oh that's the impression that stuck with you Brain at the same time like that's very much sounds like something. I said Hockey Rickman sees. It's been okay no it hasn't So it's been a little bananas first of all. I don't know if I even said anything. But I'm stacey this Johnson reasons why I'm single. Thanks for hanging out with us on this day day. He probably comes on. Thursday stays on this Thursday but there are people watching live to saying what he's live thirties now. It's is usually my most stressful months for work for some very grateful to still be working so but just you know there's also a pandemic going on so just that added layer of stress but things have been okay fun facts. I used hair clippers for the first time and I took an inch off the side which is crazy undercut. So you can't tell like right now. How Patchy it is over here but I did a pretty good job for being my first time. The back of my head being new right now. Nobody Know Chelsea nobody me right now. You may we're all. This is the thing that I'm having these moments where I'm like. Oh my God like this is happening Jimmy to everyone. I know like we have to remind ourselves who so hard. Everyone's life is so hard for when all it does bug me a little bit when celebrities like we're on this together and you're in you're the middle of this arcane with a yacht with thirty. I people helping you and I'm over here in a row boat and they have a at home gym and a beautiful that yes. We are in the same war but like you have. I don't have any weapons you've got all so the outcome is difference. Maybe maybe a little less of that like we're together last Disney movie. You know I appreciate it and also I forgot to rate ever near where When the celebrities day whatever some that they did when this whole thing happened Ed so like he's playing the piano along with it and he's just like oh knocking to choose the right key you all day Chelsea light so we're taking it up now. 'cause it's easier now. That sounds like me musically inclined. I am not. Let me tell you what's happening wife. I like when when you don't have lacking I'm not working right I am. I am the least essential I in the beauty industry and I disclosed faces when I worked. So I'm maybe the last person bachelor and hopefully that's going crazy. But the point of my crazy disposition specificity of my crazy this on there is a bird who has made the decision to sneak outside of my the bird of name so I named Gary because I needed some big yell because Gary Likes to start his swansong at five in the morning and with my windows close. I can hear Gary now. The thing that's crazy is gary is like this big. He's not a big bird are they know. They're not wait. Maybe they are just annoying. No no no. They are based found like if a bird were trying to imitate that part of the movie. When it's like that's here. He tries to like in Aruba. It'll be like I'm like God. I literally just ready to murder deferred and I'm like so I literally we don't. We don't see the effort on our honor show but Chelsea doesn't realize and I'll we do you like Jerry. The wait if gary talking just singing or is he talking to someone else. Who cares if you shouted at someone else? I wanted to be a female and I want her name to be Brenda. I don't know why wanted to be Brenda. I feel like Karen Karen would be the appropriate name. I've been Medicare hearing whole life. That's like let me put that on Gary and his species. Although maybe Gary's the blackbird then that would be. My Dad has A. it's not a be. Its appellate on it. Doesn't it doesn't like you can't pump it so it stronger. I was like okay. We'll back no. It's not even enough to get onto the second floor so I'm like okay. That's not an option so it looks like a real gun and that's not great for the neighborhood out in the morning like holding a gun in the air you know so you don't mess with Texas. Don't mess with Kelsey. Googling ways to get birds stay away from your house and I'm white and a friend of mine was like no you need. You need to get an hour on. I was like Hokey. Let me just go by an hour. Listen you're talking about buying tiger? What a month ago. You're going to get really you think. Where do you know you know getting out is not Harry Potter is not GONNA go? I am not getting now. And then they're like. Wow okay calm yourself. I was talking about a fake our because it will visually scare the bird away from your window and I was like also L. is a delicious restaurant at like fourteen Woodward Ish so I have wings so it looks styles are and there's this store called tractor supply company. I care because it's under the same. Under the umbrella as scarecrow. Kinda thing a a umbrella. Sorry and like A. That was a terrier. I did not give you a bridge at all. I apologize scarecrow and US like okay. The scarecrows make noise the they do. Don't they? Don't or types of us out that you can get fake ulcers Clinton the regular standard still. One there's one that has a head that goes like this. Kinda bobblehead owl so that like win looks. It's moving and is one that has a history. Bernard there was not a stationery thing. It was just a great and the last one was like full wings. Moving like fifty dollars for this thing that like air. But I don't care. How much was the regular non movie novel? Oh Heck Sierra how you so sixty for real out. So He's been is sharp. Who knows so and then tracker company has curbside pickup so ordered it Aaron. I picked it up. And it's it's hollows you have to actually like filled about him with like something otherwise it'll stay so we've dealt with rocks number get up there and we're trying to figure out how to say and then our that's our plan right and it's been raining since so the holy. Listen Gary enjoy it while you breaking because when that I will goes up it's going okay. I know that you are listening out nuts and you know what if you woke up every morning by Gary you would hate him to? Don't hate all birds and just hate Gary's a Dick Thank. You forgot about. Yes podcast you treat know like every morning like even when it's raining is gary bulk goal as bream morning. Wow Yeah it hurts me my parents they have a bird and it has a nasty like they have just like a small covered porch area when you walk out the front door until there's a bird with an S. but it is actively scared of us. Oh whenever you like you walk out to get the mail will like take off but it has babies now so it'll take off to the roof and then it just is you just to be like those are my babies. I'm scared of you are my babies and I will come after you fairly period drama. I HAVE. I'd much rather have that drama. I'm with you would much rather bird baby mama drama than like Gary candidate girlfriend needs to go on his own home draw. It's funny because do burden chairs from such a heavy sleeper so it's fine but also when all of this first happened and realize that'd be working from home. I was thinking. Oh on average. I get four thirty five o'clock in the morning to go to the gym before commuting to work so initially I thought hey maybe I can do two a day. Workouts like do want in the morning still be working at home than afterward like busted out again because many moons ago when I was unemployed and I had nothing to do is like workout twice day knows ripped and that's when I was first introduced to Abby my one ADB 'cause I could only get one so it's like yeah I'm GonNa do two days girl. Nah I've been doing none of days for you and I've been eating my emotions. I am six pounds and it's funny because I did order bathing suits but they got lost in the mail somehow but shout out to their customer service department. They're fantastic because emailed them. I was like hey it's been two weeks. There's a pandemic going on so there are bigger issues to worry about. I was just wondering if you could give me an update because the tracking information when you press it. Sorry we don't have information for you. They were so kind. They're like let us check on Kind of you. Also we're GONNA give you ten dollars off. I'm like that's okay but the bathing suits. It's been another week and a half and they still haven't made it but also that acts was swamped. I know like from reading the news and then like some of their stuff got deferred over to USPS Like United States. Postal Service is slammed. Right now so it's like who knows what will get them but also I'm up six thousand. It's all in my stomach. I really don't want to try and a bathing suit right now. I feel like God's plan it's so funny. I ordered some stops this like this week. I haven't ordered anything really because I am trying to take the opportunity to like save money. Get Myself Financially Completely because what if I were back to her. What if they end up filing? There's you know it's I don't want to spend money that I don't know is gearing. She tweet you know so but I did orders in close just because you know right. I went through my closet. I have a ton of black. Because that's what I wear to work and I was like very little color in very little skirts and like summer things and you know what twenty twenty Seventeen the Very very much and I usually say like six which honestly sounds crazy. But it's pretty darn accurate and I'm like okay. I'm GONNA wear skirts and dresses insurance. I am going to get some color on Lakes and if not I have a bunch of south janitors you there but I want grow. I don't I haven't thought really long time and so I got some stuff. I'm excited but yeah one of those things was just really cute But the topic Problem to have not gonNA live. I found this really cute lake. Talk On tour. Torrid and I was like I don't know I'm not so yeah shots. They gave me really like. Hey thanks for being in your reward program for a long time discount so that was shut out to cup. She for being amazing having a great sale on bathing suits but It's funny I just wish that when I gained weight you could tell it where to go because if they could just like. Fill up my Jacks Mike alludes. Ib set your girl would be stacked and also not wearing real clothes all the time. So maybe that's why go straight to my stomach too seriously I have. I tried on a pair of jeans. Look Regina work either so late. I don't remember the last word gene so I put them on and I was okay. They got up there find findings. I actually have lost a little bit of weight. Just shows how shitty eating before crappy. I've been eating now but I I might face guys that's like the truth in. Piss using those clippers. Really help because the Mike Okay. I still have like my jaw line intact. They're still like a little extra meat in there. But that's okay like taking off the side as give me a little bit of life back. I'm knocking it's also like my hair. It's like Titan curly in the back when it did come out. That was fun because my whole theory which shared with you already America but it bears repeating so when my colorist and all. That stuff is back. going bleach blonde because the Mike already like partially there. So we're going to do that process. Why not why not also already have like whiteners like crazy so we're already partially there so. I figured go bleach blonde like platinum blonde. And don't like it. I know acute and short hairs. I can take it off but I've never had short hair when it was natural so that was interesting. Like playing around with the curly side but it still looked okay so either way. I'M GONNA BE ALL RIGHT. Just needed you to know what's going on with me by me. I mean my hair because my hair is a big part of me me. I did that for you so yes. I'm not dating right now because I made the personal space for my reasons for wanting our number one. We read a really awesome book and Heidi Heidi Heidi Bushy. Yes we like. I don't want you guys to think that was just like a thing for her. On the show we really really really resonated with the work. Land still working on stuff in and then the other side is that guys have. We've all enough. I'm not just this on demand like we all gone nuts during this superstar eight for it when who's been dealing in the last like three weeks because I'm going crazy also. I named a bird. Gary so his imaginary partner. Brenda Oh good improv partner. You're very yes and like I have a big bird. Gary and Gary probably wants to get with Brenda like you just kept going. I love it. Are you going to name the apple? I'm thinking I'm going even something really stupid. Only WanNa be with you because it was on the no fish fish. She's bird that's funny. That's funny other people. Listen y'All WanNa know how this podcast got started. We WERE JOKING ABOUT PEOPLE. Think we're crazy. 'cause we're single. We're all areas. We should start a podcast. And then you speak the words into the atmosphere and like against you girl. Chelsea is being bombed Curio. Ky-ko's hosted she is and then was involved. That walked in there. Bob He's like. Hey you know what we're looking for new talent like. Would you be interested in like Jesus? Just four years later homes. Yeah almost four years. The this is my most successful relationship as we go consistent no even in general even if you talk about the long way You're my most successful relationship. Stays WanNa thank God first and foremost tell you they we? We've crazy and that's what we're saying but like the people on dating sites have also gone crazy. Bodmin as what we decided. We're going to stacy. Are you dating rain out? Everyone right now. It's like an honest people. Do Talk to you and try to get you into to them. I just want to be a although I will say finally enough slight side. There are three guys who saw that. I'm essence really. You can cut my hair because guys areas like really long at this point and also it does not mean higher. I can't but I'm not licensed to and I can. It'll be patchy but I'm try. I'M NOT GONNA probably my favorite thing on facebook right now. All of the MOMS posting their Dunkin haircuts on their sons. It's fantastic. It's just looking like shame. Properties in the corner here boy going to grow. Calm down right you're gonNA to be fine. Also lets you just shaped if she to give it a style. It would have gone so much worse. Lesin that's what I tried to do. At first I was like. Maybe I'll just take this part all the way off and on but nice loop at the way swoops are set up now but but yeah I. That's the one thing I've always admired about men especially we've talked about this black men when they get older they can just shave their all their hair off and then just look younger and I'm like that's it's fantastic. I love him. Sorry didn't turn off my lyrics by the into anything should take care of some business. We sure certain. What is it time for if I'm a fake name series of debt so the fake name series of the day is what we used to using people's real names will use names from the fake thing series of the day to hide their identities but if they early stop right he's eight now who are a they know who they are a a an. Who are they a or using the show full house? Hey Hey I was like my head yet. Dot Com dot gotta go through and figure was the theme song is and I never did and now I can't think of it. I'm Jerry Bum for the opportunity. Thank you America. You needed hero but also it sounds like the two other shows that were on soundly family matters or whatever but batters in step by step and I'm like feeling the no off the other one as go I think like should be last mile again and men in on your If you're watching live singing Kerr Cameron was the sign on it and under to camp real eight. I never saw and I was like think it's growing. Wait what was I feel like? I had full House then. I lost it step by step. Was My jams day by day. Those Magellan was cow me now. Okay I'M GONNA look it up because of. I tried something like that. My computer is really old guys. Levin in it's sad that when we say the year that our respective machinery is probably like up been old. I'm like three times as all of that but I'm like all all your the older. My raids scrolling. Through as looking for a picture of me snowboarding from facebook for my two thousand seven and I'm like going through like I'm old is it. Is it whatever happened to predictability the something the Milkman. We I don't know if that's when I don't know which one it is every few take a word. Keep actual lyric in. There's something somebody who needs me back back the blah blah blah catches football. My favorite. Like I'm guessing so much homework. Are you able to give us an absence of full house okay? So full House is actually kind of dark about it. Full houses but this This man who was married and he has three daughters and his wife's died like pretty much. The students the daughter was born and her brother moves in along with his best friend from college moving to help him raise these three girls and they live in a house in San Francisco. Which if you look at the house from the beginning and you look the way they built the house on the actual said doesn't make sense and basically no one average leads. That's that's the synopsis. So I'M NOT GONNA lie number one. I didn't watch it regularly. So didn't realize one of the was his brother. Thought they were Boca's friends. Chassis is his brother-in-law from the waist. Roller in law okay. Okay that I can wrap my head around okay. And that one of them was his actual brother. I'm like well. It can't be Jesse because his last name was great. And Tanner Apple Right. I'm like that. And Tanner or not the same. Maybe it was joey gladstone and he was damaged remain college And I just remember. He wore like a red wings. Jersey right out I just remember. Michelle said that I didn't realize that was from him. Where else would have learned it from makes science based? I said we'RE GONNA use I. I'm going to certify the email that took me twenty minutes before this that I may have accidentally deleted. I know you're going crazy if you're singing living because you like. I hate that song. Stop Thinking I it a lot at work when we were at work to right there she stopped you right after that phrase America. She totally stops that. Yes before that yes do you. Are you saying this thing on the Internet? It's like post your last like real life before this will happen picture like you with a group and everybody's close to each other with no masks. It's it's been interesting. The last thing I have is from when I was working at the bar and it was the busiest night I've had at that are ever and it was literally the week before this whole thing happened. It's it's Kinda crazy to look because there are literally no walking room between people you move. You're touching people. It is crazy how that could have happened nine weeks ago and ten weeks time weeks ago and it was an we. Were literally like touching people and now you don't now you do not I mean. Don't look in cash calendar at another last thing I did. I know he did small group Bible study that. I knew what up so we were meeting at all goes in Southfield. First of all Olga's hollow delicious slackers. I miss you Kini for is call. It may come on now. Shout outs to my stomach right now. So but that was probably one of the last thing they did like minute. With a group of girls. They error In terms of funds. That's why like three weeks ago. It hit me so hard because the first weekend in May I was supposed to be traveling. those go to Hanukkah because my dear friend DJ tanner. Her parents are from there. And they're looking at a new house and they're just like yeah once we get the new house like you girls should come on down. I'm like yes. Thank you rate some like time off of work and it was all GonNa Happen then. I might happen so that I'm going through like facebook pictures. Unlike like one the last time I really traveled and it was France. Last year's I want to be in a different country now very motion. I we have my friends that I go on vacation in the summer And so we've been looking because a Lotta things are getting canceled like airbnb cancelling for Aug like it's crazy and they apparently in the place for saying it was like no we're going to start back up at the end of. May So we're not until July so we should be good but fingers crossed. I hope like why biggest fear is that like we all start opening things up again and then it gets worse. That's maybe sphere. That's all I can go on looking at what I want to bring argued thirty kind of dark. But let me tell you Joey Gladstone. I have just old is. Let me get this really accent because my vision is not great He let he's thirty two. I you his name on yours. During his name is fake on. It's called foot hatch but like like a job like k So he his picture is his face covered in socks and he says I double dare you to rub and smother. You're cute stinky feet in my face. I made is totally going to end up being the frigging thumbnail. This I know you're going Let's see lifting. I actually find that sense. Speak Fun and interesting in different ways. Sweaty seek mixed with leather tennis shoes and sounds cute. Steve Lack Slip Ons. How slivers nylon covered seeking an interesting sent also depending on what you wear them. It's all totally Syrian innocent. Wiki face I also give the best foot rubs throws things done the I? That's how I felt first of all. I'm sorry is so way first of all the only feet that I've ever wanted near my face are like a baby's feet like playing with them. You're like Oh Steve. Abc DON'T STINK MILLION BABY babies beautiful. I don't have baby fever. Don't you even more America? I'm good over here. I'm sorry but also that sent. What leather did he grow up in a gym bag? I'm he got issues. Maybe he's homeless. Don't you gotTA frigging computer? Ignorant NOT HOMELESS. But they're free APPS NOW. We're not doing this. Were lack theory. I'm crazy I can justify crazy officially now wait how what's not shaming anyone. Can you having your fetish? What's normal girl going through the dating apps? That's a lot like honestly you just throw it in there as like any I live here. I have looked at it done and like you don't have to be like super descriptive about the fact that you're to meet me. What does it smell like with nylon on it? I'M GONNA and I love migrant difference apparently leather in good you I mean listen Joey Gladstone Gang. You need you need you. You've got issues was how bad you need feet at Harvard law. That makes me wonder I'll save for later. Now that'd be might be w later but also someone is just like smelly socks Saxon feet. I just picture like the flintstones. Yeah but avenue in the car with their feet going like this on his face like the whole I picture juries. That movie on wedding crashers when he went back soccer. Asakusa sell in duct tapes. It over his face and then the next day. He's telling his friend and he goes. He goes the sock that I played ball. It was dirty in swing put in my mouth. I wouldn't want my own dirty sock anywhere near face so I can't imagine putting that on someone else's they have you have once as easy to do what did and FRY. I found it really funny like profile that Ellen Viral. This guy's name is Derek will house. I have a lot of like sub characters from Paul House so they were on like maybe an episode and they were. Dj's classmate or something like that but the guy is saying like oh like a friend told me. I need to take boat. Ninety to take profile picks with filters with this guy in grungy Maroon t shirt with different filters save Chelsea gets mad and she throws things. It's fine. I'm so on what there's one guy. Whose NAME IS Steve. Hey all ever get married not just in the near the one on Netflix's though August right fuller house is that right. We'll her house because she becomes. Dj Solar whereas name polar. Oh Oh that's eight. Am so I gave to feeling. I'm working on it all. She said she'd give me the stars in there. They are thank you. Bye-bye day key is thirty years old and his profiles says young handsome freaky a word. Hell maybe he met Freaky as hell instead of freaky half now. Yes than it has like a smiley face. Emoji in the wet drips and then it says but humble asked ever saw Mike was supposed to be humble as amber bro rate and then it gets just grows from there. I'm secretly good at that with his mouth until she and then m yes actually read. That's what this is turned into. Yeah and then. My favorite time of day is after dark. Get to wake up with unexpected activity and finally something that he's embarrassed to admit that he loves is sucking chose while he's having sex we want he's having sex with Westche- not merging question. I I mean okay if you WanNa make it your foreplay thing. That's fine but you have to find a woman who sued comfortable because like right. Now you'll like might be are I warned the wrong side shoe and also lots of wrong size heels in college. I besides being a dancer in having messed up for callous. Wise on out calluses calluses just calluses cows. I'm the president. Sits down and gives the person who's during the ten dollars before we get yours. Might preemptive apology note and thank you for your service river risk. But what's funny is. I actually had an issue that one of my my toe and my big toenail cracks you house at and they Manila's lawn was like here's what we're GonNa do because that's terrible Is We're gonNA superglue it and then put Shellac on it now for those. You don't know. Shellac is a cured Nail Polish. That doesn't come off unless professional takes basic soak it but even then it's very difficult and on your toes. It's pretty much impossible. Usually put select on your toes because regular nail Polish on your toes lasting are exactly but this was so it would give that extra stability so that we could keep growing out. Smart when just keep cracking. Because that's what it would have the propensity to do so we are now. I got it done about a month before. Maybe I'm going to have before quarantine and then everything is everything got crazy. I was like okay. It's a month I need to go in and get this taken off at re put on and then you know life happens like I just didn't and then everything shop down and you can't get shellac off your toes now. I he like a time wine of exactly how long this quarantine is then. I was just telling a about this earlier today. I will shout out to real friend. Aaron she was doing a purge. She has like best audit purge ever and we are a similar size and so she's lost a little bit of way. It's like hey have all these clothes adult fed dislike. I'm so happy to be your fat friend fist. Joking around just kidding around. So she dropped off like three bags of clothes for beauty goes through and we were talking about right out yet her shaw. It's amazing so she. We're talking about toenail Polish at one point in the Polish. I had my toes from like December. Don't judge me I didn't take it off until right. Witness lockdown happened so when I took it but I'm like Oh this is this caller at all. I'm not ideal what's craziest. The craziest thing about it is that like every. Call your body like your hair differently. Your your your skin. Come back Vassar on one side of your body than the other like your nails grow different on either side of your body so my right foot. Almost all Polish is gone. It's grown offs and like trim gone and my left night. It doesn't it. Looks fine report thrown out but it's fine like it's looks like it's the craziest thing so I can take listen. Garnish Guy Man. This is your episode Roque War for the fetish done. I wonder like with his book fetish. It's like disaster. It is that any slut. Do they have to be like a perfectly curated? Like is it. Okay if it's a foot of a real person like my half they're open to any and all that will come come along right. I'm assuming yes I. Maybe maybe looking for their Cinderella foot which by the way that's open and no it doesn't exist a half when grandma was a four and a half. Hang up these big old feet. Nobody wants to be part of that. Even thought finished does not. WanNa be part of that first of all. I don't understand why foot size really matters to be. Quite honest is even people that have like aside but assize ten or up. I can't tell I don't understand why it matters. It does make me mad that If they don't have a variety like variety of like bigger. If that's considered a bigger size foot makes mad. They don't have the same amount of variety as they do for smaller fit. That makes me upset. That goes the same for clothing like I have big boobs but because I am big boobs. I don't get cute bras disrespectful. In fact all that's because there's like a Double Egg Cup somewhere and she's just mad and she's like q my bit today is right. It's fine and this is what it is what it is. You know what I got. I like my boobs. You in whatever you want. But also look at Savage Not Not Savage Fendi by Riana. They've got some really cute. The marketing of them had curved women on it on my better dude reasonably braced. You you can answer like a sign like for your marketing not like need for you. I'm just saying because I mean if you need an extra music video I'm that why not take one off. I'm just won't do we to all right. This is actually a conversation I had with man. His name is Danny Tanner Ding And I got really. I got really mad. And he was like he said I was so he message me the night before midnight and I was awake but I was not answering that I was like no and then Easter Egg. I said essentially the next morning I was like yeah. I was sleeping and he goes a figured. I was just trying to see if you wanted to come over last night. But it's probably for the best you got that earlier in the evening because early in the earlier in evening he had made mention That you really enjoy grind down just castle. That's the casual conversation and and I was like Brian Legit. Not that girl and he was. Yeah not guy either. I was just in the mood. And he's a bit a face and I'm like so you were that guy. Thank you hold yourself our Mike or you thought maybe I was that girl and he goes. I was just wondering and I'm like and you thought I would come over already goes no. I just don't think when I was horny. So then I kind of lost it. So that justifies it in your mind. I'm working on being upfront. Because people aren't mind readers which is true like rage. I gotTa work on it and I'm like I said I'm not that girl. You said you're not either. But you were just horny. Take what I sat fast face value. I'm not that girl not interested in your reasoning protecting at gets no week. Maybe we meet. But please don't apply that your brain stops working when you're penises Ford. Rub One out like the rest of us. Oh dear so and I if he does Speechmaking that's fine like he and so then he said I've actually learned since my divorce. I need to get you more front. Also appreciate it. You're right I shouldn't have you and I should have owned up to wire message rather than making an excuse. I apologize accepted. Thank you read. That's twist I wasn't expecting it to sad. I'm surprised that it took a positive right. Out of nearer say acknowledged that there was value in my words and holidays for his. Go figure lessons. I guess something good can come out of this lockdown America ridiculous This other guy. His name is Harry so Harry has a bunch of emojis like printing hands Angel Face Dogs. One hundred is love laugh. Vein Stars Harper Sale. Suga Mama. Me Please Y. Quite it's just like Oh what do you do? Oh I'm a machinist at NBA Two K. Are you really like if you are good for you? But based on what's going on in your profile now and have cracks me up because him in the do or like interested in you like what do we have in common their both Christian them. Jesus LOVES ALL OF US. He loves all of us. There's another guy that I have We'll we'll just call him Erin so Aaron His actual profile name is like basically alludes to he likes to have says the Cold Fun and he's thirty three years old and he likes to have the time. I mean back. Be Jump Ropes as the he likes to. What did you say? Jackhammer didn't use that word. That's what his profile like reading. That's exactly but he's cool is down to Earth. He's a he's a hard worker. He's just looking for new people in his life. Then it's just a bunch of egg glance now like I don't understand how does for New People in my life Dick Dick Dick cels harsh. Yeah you wouldn't late exactly banana. Boats did not ask for any of this. Doesn't say that he's a Christian so I don't know what we haven't gone on this next guy. His name is Mr Strawbridge they This restore register thirty years old. And he's six seven and it says. I'm not looking for a serious relationships. I'm easy to talk to you not into games with people looking to financially compensate for female. Companionship he likes hookers. He wants a liquor you like. When you're on sites what I've learned is I could be charades partners with him. Because that's all I've been doing. He wants to provide compensation for grid of another person. But also I of all. I'm not condoning this at all. But if everyone is on lockdown order. Stay home stay safe. I guess you do have to bring a substantial amount of bait to get someone out of their house. I mean that's fair. It would have to be like. Let's be real. Somebody looks like Michael Jordan. He's like Stacey. I want to go walk with you. All you're making me think now I because it's a stranger I couldn't do it. Let's go to the park where I know it's GonNa be public in order to be fine and then like yell. Stay succeed approach. He looks like Michael Jordan. Fine your chaperone. Oh my God be funny first of all the day that I do like. You've said that before like listen if you need me to like if you go out can be your chaperone. I can just show up being the back row. I kind of expect to do that. I won't be mad at you for doing that. Because you're just looking out for me. That's awesome that would be case in point if was with Michael being used background. Protect your treasure David Hamilton. But what you're right and don't want to go to leave like this banana boats so I did have another dream. Recently was Michael B Jordan because the official one that I had was when we saw creed to to yeah. They were just platonic relationship friends. It was cool and then Yeah so then this dream that had made me like a week ago. Maybe so he'd been gone any came back and so like you know we're just bronzes by. He's like how are you nestle like big hogs all that other stuff? I'm just like I'm good. Thanks for him. Whatever so that we went it felt like is. He felt like when I was a kid. Because we used to go to my aunt's house so hang out with all my cousins and we would just stay up super late. You just make a pallet on the floor like here's blanket like you may not have pillow and stay up late and then balls like five in the morning and wake up at no joke by the next day. Jud Oliver yet like whatever we night there so it was that same type of vibe. We went to like someone's house. Is that same? Biden was bunch of mutual friends. And so I'm talking with my beach just like how have you been is so good to see you man? We haven't talked in ages below bottom light fine like why are you like real life? These people in real life real life men walk up to you and they own my God. I miss you. And you're like why you're literal dream showed up and you're like Einstein America. We're good. We're still friends. I think it's consistent even Bannon so like we're keeps this doing whatever so then I needed to go. I needed to go to the store or something like that. And he's just like Oh my Gosh. I'll go with you and like okay. So we get in the car. And he's in the passenger seat so we're driving. I'm driving like this beater car like dawn. It's over driving and he's just like driving the and what is wrong with you long and I'm like okay. How bad so we well. Then you need to take an imaginary end of it so we talked to a red light is the windows down. Because it's a little warm and there's this car girls dextrose and he just keeps staring at me and I'm like you acknowledge your fans. At least he's just like now. I'm going gee that was the. I'm going to need you to take a mental note of this and be like if Michael Jordan is paying attention to you. There's a freaking reason. Like interested in your. Don't be like just brushing him off. We stayed army if you're interested in you. You're going to put an effort so I mean my gosh off okay. I'M GONNA fly through a couple of these because we're pretty close to being done are. Do you want to save some for next week up to you? Surely more crazies. Next week they already crazy. We governor crazy increase. This guy's name as Viper. I Know Viper is a twenty thirty nine his profile. Name his daddy he says just moved back home for banning California last Eighteen Years Single Job Card House. I just need special girl. Why been hard just league. No thank you This next is name is Rusty Rusty is forty. His picture is walking his face. And it's showing vice is not bad And yes you are. He says seeing some company this weekend with two hours in a heart Emoji in seeking some are both dollar sides so I think he's also looking for hookers. This is just the new like less than A. I know. There's a pandemic going on but I trust. Trust me if you come out in these elements in nature insurance you out there anywhere girl. Keep Belabor this. This guy's name is Walter. Walters forty one and it says if you don't love dogs. I don't think we're going to get along. I have quick if you don't sweat. West no long term relationships no HOOKUPS LOOKING FOR CANYON TO GO OUT. Occasionally for dinner and drinks we get along. Well then I would like intimacy. I bike true friends. I with benefit seconds. Let's experience the finer things together. I'm professionally successful. And I am married unsuccessfully. I don't show my face. We have professional reasons. Honey your natural on your face. 'cause you're happy. Mary not effing marriage. What I've used everybody crest you. We're GONNA one more than you. Can you can questions. This guy's name is Gary Gary Gary thirty three NERDY CRAZY SEXY. Not necessarily in that order. It guy big goofball but respectful and adapted to the situation energetic winning witty women I'm six one truthfully. My wife wants to watch me tear you apart. Wait what my wife wants to watch me tear you apart and then underneath that all caps says looking for Weirdos first of all that Inter at my he was not on the committee to name T. L. C.'s. Crazy sexy kind of nerdy. Maybe a little way and you know I have like three is name all crazy and married and just like and not and not ethically non monogamous. Yes that you saying. Now I know I know I'm going to get that people are like you shouldn't judge people's relationships and you know what it should also played there needs to be dating site. It's like I want to be in that kind of situation because there's people out there like me who don't want so we. I have never been married. I don't want to be. The guest are in somebody else's marriage. That's not what I'm looking and I'm entitled to my opinion. Just as much as he's entitled to say let us not monogamous ethically. Bullshit you hear. First Marica so well we thank you always Merica facebook live. Zoom podcast Detroit. Very liberal aren't apologize for dropping in life that also rest in love. He's not dead but Nelly. Luda had a battle this weekend in Luda clearly. 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OA396: Happy Juneteenth from the Supreme Court!

Opening Arguments

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OA396: Happy Juneteenth from the Supreme Court!

"The. Lawyer and he's kicking your ass. Bad lawyer. I need a loophole. Students Accuser Ace. Sorry but my mother always said if you can't say anything Nice, don't say anything at all. Hold up in. Court no I've tried it before. Stop. Ask a question. A lawyer would ask please I am award. Welcome to opening arguments the podcast that pairs an inquisitive interviewer with the real life lawyer. This podcast is sponsored by the law. Offices of the enter tour's LLC for entertainment purposes is not intended as legal advice does not form an attorney client relationship. Don't take legal advice from a podcast. Hello and welcome to opening arguments. This is episode three hundred and ninety, six I'm Thomas, not over. There is the very immediately wrong Andrew. I. Exceptionally Wrong and happy to be so although I will tell you you know to to to riff off of that idiots a tagline like. Even. When I'm wrong, there's much that I. We'll get there. It was record-breaking wrongness I loved it. Is We releasing episode and then the Supreme Court's like yeah well. Apparently you can't fire gay people and Trans People, and what's else, Daca and then they're like transformers for kids and eighty two bucks. Wearing other things. Yeah, they declined on all ten pending gun cases like it. I could not have been more spectacularly wrong on. It ruled McDonald's is great. and. They ruled that you know. The the mid nineties was the peak era of rock and. Nirvana grunge. RPG Father Concurrence that said Nirvana's without a doubt, the greatest band of all time it was, it was a bad week for me. That's. Good Week for the world. There you go country, yeah? To talk about it, before we get there and the updates any any announcements. How yeah, so this This episode is coming out on June eighteenth and I know I are listenership. We've got folks kind of all over the age spectrum and I wanted to to just mention that a little bit because you know that didn't hit my radar really until this year. Even though it is a, it's a legal anniversary. This is just this was not something that was really in the public consciousness I think. Much until now Thomas I, don't I. Don't know I mean. Is this something that you know? You were familiar with sort of prior to this year prior to this year, but not prior to like I. Don't know two three four years ago. That Moses Yeah. I want to be a little bit careful about. Characterizing the public you know rather than it might be just the white public and. Fully Aware of this I don't WanNa I. DON'T WANNA characterize. The public has not including black people who are well we're. Very very good clear, but I I. I'll tell you about my journey. Very briefly I would have gone from not having any idea. What June teeth was not so many years back maybe ten years back or or twenty. If we want to go to when I was really conservative, Fox's household to now I. I'm all the way radicalized the other way where I don't even think we should have fourth of July I think we should just have June teeth. Again light people come come along with me as a white privilege. White Person Imagine. We've been celebrating July fourth like it. Some Great Freedom Holiday Freedom Freedom with that's the day with freedom and imagine what a black people at the time. Black people now must have been thinking like yeah, cool freedom for not me. For you. Isn't that weird. I never thought about it like it's just. So I I'm all the way, radicalize the other way I think we should only have June team. Reduced Fourth of July tonight. Okay, well, it's a technically you know. It's an anniversary we can tell. University next. Yeah let's let's combine them like. We did President's Day right like we had a bunch of different presence. We can average them, so that would be like what you know sort of late June like June twenty seven. Th would then be the you know combined Omnibus Freedom Dale. To work. We'll have to workshop that. June eighteenth is a name to it. It really is. It really is a good name June eighteenth everyone. Is recognized as a state or a state holiday in in forty seven of the fifty states. So you know, get on that North and South Dakota and Hawaii. Once I would've thought that's not what you would have thought. Yeah, no, no! It's I think look. One of the. Things like it's got a little interesting. Like state, then they were told they had their own thing gonNA. Yeah But. Look I mean June. Teeth was informally celebrated an and again. Let's be really really clear here. With with white privilege. Right like when I say informally I not recognized as legal holiday anywhere. Until Texas recognized it in one, thousand, nine hundred. And it really. It has been in the the twenty first century that other states have really followed suit so. Look you know if there is one positive to sort of the world being on fire. Is that like I think it really has done a lot to sort of raise white consciousness in areas that. Previously been impervious and you know look and we've talked about that right like the the fact now that you have mainstream legislators talking about what De Fund the police means right like it. Mails from my banks like any bank I've done business with like. Hey. We're off tomorrow for June eighteenth. It's like all right. I mean on one hand it's. It's one of those I don't WanNa. Call, but it's one of those things we do that. We tend to try to do like What's the word for something? That looks nice that it's not really going to solve any problems, but on the other hand it is nice. To recognize it, and it is a sign of more broad social progress I think. Yeah I, think I think that's right so happy. June eighteenth everybody all right well, the super excited. Let's get to the show and you being about grunge music. At this point I might have been wrong about. I don't even know all right, so let's go through the things that I was about on Tuesday. Many of which were wrong in advance. So. Yeah so the Supreme, court convened a special session on Monday to release opinions. Just to release the opinion in the consolidated cases that the the caption under which the opinion was released. Was Bostock versus Clinton County? It consolidates three three cases of course. Pasta is the only case we did not discuss when it was at the circuit court level. the Zara case we discussed at great length. Versus Altitude Express in the second circuit out of New York. The other case was our G and G R. Harris funeral homes versus EEOC, and we did discuss that care that was that was the first. That was the first case. Challenging title seven as as applicable that the. Prohibitions on sex also applied to trans employees. Heartbreaking, yeah, is it, amy ask the Yeah Amy Stevens she's. But, but also heartbreaking in that I mean I heard I think I think she was on the daily or something, and she read the letter that she sent her employer when she was coming out as trans, and it was such a heartfelt like nice way of you know it was it was it was like Oh, I value. Everyone here is co coworkers, and finally you know I'm going to be living the life. That's that I've been feeling inside all the time, and then they fired her. It's so heartbreaking that that people's response to to that very heartfelt You know like letter. They sent so. He's passed away, but At least you know the decision with the way that she was fighting for. Yeah and so look. I want to break down this opinion. Depth I WANNA do a classic deep dive because I want to answer you know some of the questions that have been circulating around right like. Is there. A poisoned pill in there is is Neil. Gorsuch a secret liberal? I. Don't blame me and many people for being like. What's the catch here? This is what's going on. There's there's some secret plan in there is their luminosity. Something Yup so we're GONNA do that. I'm going to break that down on. Tuesday and I'm going to answer all of those questions. I will tell you if you're on pins and needles between now and Tuesday I will tell you. There are limits to how far the case goes, but it is an unambiguous win. Okay, don't go searching for you. Know the hidden triples Annatto scam better whatever it's an. UNAMBIGUOUS, it doesn't quite go as far as you might think it would go and we're going to explain that. And we're GonNa talk about what it means for the jurisprudence of Neil. Gorsuch and you know we're going to have fun but I really I couldn't be happier to have been wrong. About what I anticipated would be the outcome in this case. I mean it was so clear I. It was such a clear cut case, but even that's how bad the court is that even with a clear cut case of if this person were female, you wouldn't have fired them if they but they are male, but you know depending on who they are interested in like. It couldn't be more clear like they're on a whiteboard. Demonstrating like if female, you fired, if like definitely based on their gender. And finally gorsuch. I guess maybe that's based on their. And but it is amazing that we were still very worried even with how it was. Absolutely, so that's Tuesday. Man I'm excited for Tuesday's. That was at all right you. Know We we got. We got a lot of stuff today, but I can't wait for that deep debt. I'm selling it. Andrew I'm just okay. Be My hype man there, yeah. Okay well What else are we talking about? Maybe today or Tuesday? We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA talk about this today, and just super briefly because to me. This is the most interesting thing that I was wrong about and. It hasn't really gotten a lot of attention in. Liberal News outlets so. One of the things that I said on Tuesday. was also wrong in advance. Was that well? This part was right that there were ten pending gun cases awaiting disposition petitions for search Aurora in gun cases awaiting disposition before the Supreme Court, Brett Kavanagh had just written a snotty little concurrence in the. New York pistol and rifle case that said Hey, you know we should be taken these cases, and it only requires four votes for certain. I thought for sure that meant that the Supreme Court would beep take taken up a whole bunch gun cases and they denied cert- in all ten. And I can't explain I can't over emphasize what a great result! That is right because I. IT means the Supreme Court is not making new gun law, which would be bad. But second, many of these cases were victories for the side of sanity at the Court of Appeals Level, yeah and those are are are now standing in particular, and and this is me. Sneaking in Andrew was right into this. Way Back in episode forty seven, we covered the first of these kinds of cases. It was a case called Kobe versus Hogan Real. So Kobe versus given upheld Maryland ban on assault weapons, right and part of what made that opinion? Really really interesting was the fourth circuit grappling with the language that that Antonin Scalia used in DC vs Heller and sort of using his sarcasm against it right so in. Broadly striking down DC's ban on handguns, if Scalia like well, you know, obviously you know, nobody thinks the Second Amendment protects your right to own a tank or anything, but you know handguns like that's just a free for all, and you know tough newbies on U. District of Columbia. That's my legal summary of the DC versus how? And and so the fourth circuit really cleverly was like look key to and scalise analysis was that the Second Amendment does not protect you know military grade hardware and that served as the basis for upholding. Maryland's law sense then we've had two subsequent decisions. Werman versus Healy. Involving Massachusetts law coming out of the Second Circuit and Wilson Versus Candy involving in Illinois Law, coming out of the seventh circuit, both of which largely adopted the reasoning in Kobe and and upheld. Bans on assault weapons and large capacity magazines as being constitutional under the second. Amendment even in light of DC versus Heller and the supreme. Court has now let that stand now. Let's be super clear. One of the first things you learn in law. School is the fact that the Supreme Court deny certain in a case does not mean that they are endorsing the lower courts rash it out right. They are free to come back and right on this clean slate whenever they want. And make new stuff up, but they declined to do so for now and. That means we have another year of localities being able to pass sensible gun control reform. And and I think right. It's hard. To explain how the court would not take these cases right in light of bread Kavanagh. Basically you know like that kit in the third grade of okay, it was me you know who puts up his hand and jumps up and down in his seat to answer every single question. Right like that's Cavanaugh. Who Pick me pick me. I want to take the I. Want to take the gun cases I want to take the gun. Cases Alito and Thomas Obviously. You know. They met a gun case that they didn't let. The. Only explanation is John Roberts kind of pulling Neil gorsuch aside and saying hey, man Maybe election year like we're taking pounding here. Obviously, we've talked more about this next on on next Tuesday's episode with the Shame John, Roberts thesis but you know. Kinda pulled him aside and going like. Maybe maybe we should ease off on rewriting the nation's gun control laws during an election year. Political calculation. Interesting, I, do and I will tell you. We covered on the shows. Again. Something Lot of outlets of missed I'm not trying overly pat myself on the back. I will. You didn't miss. The opposite of padding other outlets on the back. I. Don't want to. Shaved them. We talked about the brief filed. The amicus brief filed in new. York pistol and Rifle Association case by Senator Sheldon Whitehouse Right which documented that the Roberts court in five four opinions that have a political You know that have a political context never. Ruled anything other than predictably five conservative votes versus four liberal Vince right and I believe that John Roberts read that brief and I believe that that bothered right like that and I. You think he's still old fashioned enough to care about that because I. I think we're entering a new era in which that nobody cares I event? You know. My optimus prime has. been on a bit of a rollercoaster four years of doing the show. Here's what I would say that. I think splits the baby right because we all want half a baby In order for the Supreme, court. To Work Right. It has to be perceived as having some kind of institutional legitimacy at the point, in which you're just counting up the DS, and the ours and saying okay well. This is how is going to go from from your like that i. it very clearly look. We have affirmative evidence that that bothers John Roberts right because he has rebuked litigants for saying trump judges. You Know Obama Judges Right? You know he keeps specifically. issued an ethics letter from the bench. That says there are no trump judges. There are no Obama judges you know there are just article three judges and. Look like. That's not true, but that's not true. Because is breaking the right because he is appointing people who are not judges who do not care like. Justin Walker who are just ideologues. Straight to the bench. We're seeing a little bit of an institutional pushback on that is going to be enough I. Don't know, but if you want to be optimistic Roberts cares again. You know we calibrate. He doesn't he doesn't care. So much that it doesn't stop him. From reaching conservative results ninety percent of his case, it's right liquid. I want to oversell this but I but I do want to say like you know it it. We have divided the court into the howler monkey, contingent and John Roberts on the right and. If there is some evidence, that may be neal gorsuch like you know. Look let me throw this out as an UN evidenced. Piece of speculation, right. Could be neal. Gorsuch thinks Brad Kavanagh. Sam Alito and Clarence Thomas are just not fun to hang out with right awesome. It's entirely possible. Right like that. That happens all the time. In the makeup of the Supreme Court again like you know, they're areas in which it clearly doesn't matter right like If he isn't a big drinker than Kavanagh's out if he's not. A complete idiot. Then we end. Thomas route so maybe. Maybe. Options Well again, look you done. What overplay it in the sense that like you know. We've seen a I. Forget who it was, maybe Jeff Greenfield who reported on. The long standing friendship between our BG and Antony Scalia. BG. Or best thing about Antonin Scalia may route now. That's not hard, yeah yeah. And obviously that didn't influence either of their jurisprudence one bit right, so you don't want you. Don't want oversell it, but if Roberts has gore such as ear, and is just saying like. Hey, mom, you know it Kinda like I don't want the Roberts. Court I don't want the legacy of the Roberts court to be. This is the point at which the American public stopped believing that judges interpret the law and started believing that they were you know. Playing cards, you know placed on the battlefield by various partisan presidents right? I'm not ready to to be in that role. I don't know if he would make like magic. The gathering kind of analogy, Neal Gorsuch, but yeah, but you know what I need right? I don't know. None of us know, but we do have an additional piece of evidence right, which is it only takes four votes for Cert, and that means Roberts and gorsuch both voted to deny cert- in these ten gun cases. At doing by the way there were no published sense, so you know I'm I'm just assuming the rest of the howler monkey contingent contingency you know would have granted cert, but That's a big story and it's worth covering so there you go. Yeah, I guess I'm just surprised that why we gotta move on but I. It's it's Nice I guess if your theory is correct that he's taking that route and not the route that I think a lot of other Republicans are taking which is well the the the trains about to? The Metaphor. I don't know it's the parties almost over because there's the polls are so bad so we're just going to. Tear everything that's not bolted down out of the government and and do everything we can to ruin things going forward because that's how I think bill bar and Mitch McConnell are GonNa. Do Things, but it's nice. That might be different, and that's because those people again that this I I don't WanNa wax Rx exotic about the foundation of the constitution, but like. Because those people face electoral consequences and the supreme, court doesn't right, so their incentives are different, but yeah, I it it. It's going to get worse before it gets better in the executive branch and the stealing everything that's not nailed down. is is the right analogy. All right. We got so much talk about The DACA case. Finally the other decision this one I imagine I'm just guessing here is what I've seen and learn from this show but I imagine this one is not a straightforward victory. This this strikes me more. A trump completely bungled something, and so therefore we get a temporary reprieve that I that is exactly right. I mean that that couldn't be more correct it. It's a good result. and. The tendency for our listeners, and for the media to kind of lump it all together and be like hey, great week at the Supreme Court. It's true. Good result the best way to understand this. This and this is a five four decision so again you know it, your neal gorsuch secret liberal cards. I think you know you can. Temper that enthusiasm three days later, right, this is a this is a five four case, and it is very very very narrow. And it is essentially. I summarized that this way on twitter kind of stand by this. This is John Roberts going. Hey, man, if you hate children, being in cages were going to stop Somma of the very worst abuses and give you time to vote for Joe Biden in two thousand and twenty, but if you screw that up and you send this guy, you know new re-elect trump like we're. We're going to let this go through That's the right way to read this opinion and I'll and I'll parse that out so again I. Don't want to throw too much cold water. This is a very good decision that four now. PRESERVES DACA so. We last talked about DACA on. Episode one zero two. But to kind of give a super brief overview in two thousand twelve after being stymied. In Congress in trying to enact some kind of immigration reform Obama, instructed the Department of Homeland Security to enact the program, which is now docket deferred enacted daca deferred action for childhood arrivals. It applies only to the folks that we called dreamers right. That is children who are brought here. against. Against their will, but you know with zero consideration. By their parents, and who are therefore technically illegal immigrants into this country but but really. Through no fault of their own, and so the dock, the DACA program and you're GONNA WANNA put put a pin in. This had two components to it. The I was a forbearance component. Right, it said. Hey, if you fall into this class, we're going to elect not to deport you. And secondarily it had benefits component, and we talked about that at length and episode, one to those benefits lay like it really use suggested an, and I have tried to use this language that we should call daca recipient STAKA enroll lease. You that I was going to make that very brief point not to get rail you I still see I saw today Daca recipients. It's like recipients. They're. They're being allowed to pay taxes. Tax Returns that fill it out, so you can pay the government money and you're like. Wow. I am a recipient of this amazing program. Yeah. No look like. That rhetoric is part of. The rights for the unconscious a impression that we're giving them something or regret you know. Are there like benefiting or something? It's like okay. Yeah, they're not being deported. I suppose that's like the the the least you could call a benefit. The rest of it is they pay into the system. That is exactly fee to pay into the system. They have to pay a fee to do it like. They have to pay a fee with their application. They have to renew it every year. They have to pay taxes right. Yeah I, mean what? Parole or something? That's not a bad analogy. Is this supreme. Court uses the rhetoric benefits because again. This is a Roberts opinion, and this is a conservative court so. Those are the two components, the forbearance component, and again what the court calls the benefits component, which which is more properly referred to as the you know the enroll league component. About two million people are eligible under Dhaka. And evidence is almost a million have enrolled in the program. So? This lawsuit involves Donald Trump's decision to instruct the Department of Homeland Security to end the DACA program and the lawsuit and the decision looks really really confusing and I'm gonNA. Talk about like you know concurring in part and dissenting and partner a whole bunch of separate opinions. It really isn't. It's really very very simple, and this is what I want you to keep in mind. Win Trump instructed his lackeys to end Dhaka. And they did so there were two challenges that were brought A. Immediately afterwards one was a narrow set of claims under the AP the administrative procedure. Act that said you don't have a good reason for changing this administrative policy. That's a very very narrow claim like it sounds right, it says hey, we're not saying you can't do this, but we're saying you. In Particular Donald, trump and your latkes don't have a good reason for what you're doing. That was the narrow claim. The broad claim was the Fifth Amendment Claim Right? This is an equal protection violation. Why because you were specifically targeting and identifiable minority and you were taking away existing government existing treatment under the law, and that's discriminatory violates the equal protection clause of the Fifth Amendment. That's the broad claim on the merits. The Supreme Court ruled in favor of the APA claim and the majority decision. Denies the equal protection claim. Talk about why am I the language that way when we get to the bottom, but in other words, this is not a sweeping declaration that ending Daca. Targets Hispanics targets. Minorities is discriminatory. This is about the way the trump administration administratively did this and. What that means is that. If you take away, nothing else, this is why. Three. Loading this before the dive. What that means is that. If the administration goes back reenact. The policy does appropriate. Factfinding does appropriate articulation than this. Supreme Court would very likely uphold that Redo. Now. Is Just Ban All over again. I, it's very much like the Muslim. Ban and look you saw it took a year and a half for the Muslim ban to take effect. We told you a trump can do this, but he's so incompetent that his first to go rounds even the Supreme Court was. Not like this, you can't. Ultimately. He was able to put that into effect. Ultimately. If Donald Trump is reelected, he will put this policy into effect and the Supreme Court five four. Endorse it. I'm going to explain exactly why as we do the breakdown? So it's a good. It's a great result right now. For Two million people living in this country right who are just trying to play by the rules and survive a racist demagogue who wants to kick them out for no other reason than it makes his base feel-good right? It's a tremendous result for them. It is a tremendous opportunity for us to say okay. Let's not elect a racist game show host monster as president, right, but but if you're on the thing, I mean, look like this podcast comes down really really hard to on non voters and third party voters If you care about this program and you don't want to see it. reauthorized and approved by the Supreme Court in Twenty Twenty one. Then you half to vote for Joe Biden. There is not another option I I can't put it any better than that. And the Supreme Court at Basically said so Yeah, this is something that always needed to be solved with actual legislation. Who wasn't you know at the dot? It's not something that the court can vicks force like the Congress needs to. Have a heart and actually do something for these people that is exactly right so I. Mean Republicans who stopping, but yet no, that's true, so look. Here's how it got to the Supreme Court and It began by an extension of the DACA program daca right, which was deferred action for parents right and the fifth circuit held the part of the program, was unconstitutional and enjoined doppler from going into effect and. That was affirmed four four. It was allowed to stand by the Scalia Lewis Supreme Court. So it was, it was heard by the Supreme Court and then Antonin Scalia had the good sense to die it was then four four, so that fifth circuit ruling was allowed to stand. And then when trump took office, jeff sessions sent out a memo. That said Hey. If data is unconstitutional DACA is also probably unconstitutional, so you should rescind that and. We talked about how. A portion of that was not a stupid argument in episode, one zero two. that the correct right like if the benefits portion of DOPP is unconstitutional than the benefits portion again with the scare quotes. Of of DACA is also probably unconstitutional. Again wouldn't have been the case. If the two thousand sixteen election had gone differently, but it did so so. Jeff sessions sent Elaine Duke. Who was then acting secretary of the Department of Homeland Security a memo that said what I just set right, Hey! Fifth Circuit has said. DOPP is unconstitutional supreme. Court has let that stand divided four four -pinion, the Attorney General, it's my judgment. That DOPP is unconstitutional, and therefore docket is unconstitutional and I want you to end Daca right, and because trump appointees are stupid and lazy and awful. Acting. Secretary Duke put out literally. It was like a one paragraph memo that was like. Hey, okay. Read the memo on winding down Daca. And then the lawsuits were immediately file, and they were challenged onto grounds they were challenged for being arbitrary and capricious, and therefore a violation of the administrative procedure act and three, and then also for violating the equal protection clause and three courts. Three separate courts entered injunctions. Where like yeah, this is definitely arbitrary, capricious like. Acting Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security. You gotta give us more than a paragraph before you enact. Changes to an executive agencies policy right and So, they went back and by that time Kirsten. Nielsen was confirmed by the Senate and then. Actual Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security and Nielsen issued a supplemental memoranda that said We stand by that paragraph from a Duke here are the reasons number one? It's bad law for all the reasons to duke said. Number two. We want at the Department of Homeland Security to avoid quote. Legally questionable policies end of quote for independent other reasons that we think this might also be a bad idea. Your guess is as good as mine. What that means search. And then the third. That Nielsen put in her supplemental memorandum was and and I want to quote from the court here because you won't believe me if I just summarize it. Quote! The importance of projecting a message that immigration laws would be enforced against all classes and categories of aliens. So! Yeah, that's as close as you come to. Saying you know the cruelty is the point, but but in any even those were the three reasons that VHS gave for the policy, and now we get to the analysis under the Administrative Procedure Act and sat along long. The analysis is clear but I expected the court to go the other way because you give tremendously wide latitude to the agency for what kind of reasons count. But I did not count on. The incompetence of Donald Trump's appointees, and the willingness of John Roberts and only John Roberts. Mind you from the courts right wing to actually enforce the requirements of the. And here's what he did. As it turns out. When an administrative agency takes action. The requirement that you were ticky late. Sound reasons for that action is as I've said left, you know vest the agency with wide discretion, so in other words courts have to defer to what the agencies decide. But critically the only thing that the that the court can consider in its evaluation is an ex is the explanation that the agency gives for its reasoning at the time that it enacted the policy, and this makes really really good sense. Right like in other words. We're saying hey. Did the agency follow congressional rules in deciding to reverse course on DACA and that program? Well, the court says hey, look. We're GONNA. We're GONNA. Give you. We're GONNA. Cut You a ton of slack. We're going to figure out exactly what happened, but In order to figure that out. We want to. Look at the reasons you actually used at the time. You made the decision and not a bunch of pretextual reasons. You came up with after the fact, right? Okay. So. In other words win, the court asks for clarification. The agency can do one of two things. They can either write a letter that gives quote. A fuller explanation of the agencies reasoning at the time of the agency action. Or alternatively they can deal with the problem a new and they can say oh, yeah, okay. We did not have a good reason at that time. We're not GONNA do that. We are GONNA. Do a similar policy now for these new reasons that we've articulated and here's our justification, and this again reminds me of the Muslim ban. What are they tried to retroactively decide? They did for different reasons. I didn't I. Don't think it worked for the. Times exactly right, and that's happened with ending Daca that remember Nielsen's letter added. It didn't just clarify the like paragraph that Duke wrote. It added in a whole bunch of new and stupid reasons for. Doing the existing policy and the Supreme Court was like. You can't do that, right? You've got to tell us what your reasoning was at the time, or you have to do a new policy, and then you can apply these brand new reasons to your new property. You can't apply brand new reasons to a policy. Already did that makes no sense right? I think you said I think we said it. At the time again with the Muslim bandits, it's this. It's pretty much a fogged mirror test, but the trump administration is so incompetent. They're having trouble fogging mirror it. Yes that is correct and I'm about to read the key section from the opinion, but I'm actually going to jump ahead to the punch line on. This was brought to my attention by. Listener randy pain on twitter, and it's from Steve Lack confiscatory and it linked to a site called Policy Integrity Dot Org, and that is a watchdog group that is. Tracking Donald Trump's administrative agencies and the policies that that they've put into place. As of May twenty seventh. there were eighty five trump administration policies that were challenged in court right now. Not all of them made it all the way up to the Supreme Court right. They define a win as the agency gets to continue to do the policy, right? They've got a victory in court. And they define a law says. The agency had to withdraw the policy right. in those eighty-five cases not counting this one. What do you think trump's batting averages in those administrative cases? You've got to think that so many of them should be freebies. But like so, what would be a bad number like under a competent regime? I feel like you're batting. Average should be like ninety percent, success, rate or ninety five. Maybe, but that would be like okay, but under incompetent resume I'M GONNA, say thirty percent success rate so. You didn't have seven percent on your radar. No, that's not what I thought even trump, and in those people could pull off thirty percent six six victories seventy-nine defeats in the court. So you know a, you should be feeling real. Good about Thomas takes the bar exam. But yeah, like the right way to look at. This is one of the things we have been saying all along. which is one of the consequences of like letting Steve Bannon and jared Kushner run. The government is that they don't have any idea what they're doing and they're terrible at their jobs, and their objectively bad at and they're objectively bad at complying with the administrative. Procedures Act because again. I know were sort of in this world now where it's like okay. While we won the presidency we broke the legislature so now like first thing we're. GonNa do is undo all the administrative actions that the previous administration did okay I said that real quick now you know time to do some new stuff like. That's not the way administrative agencies are supposed to were either right like when an administrative agency promulgates a rule, it is supposed to be to affect the purposes of the. Statute that gave them the authority to do that in the first place rightly. Of this is supposed to be helping Congress do its job now. We know that the reality is you know that that that's not the case, but like, but that's what the EPA is meant to secure so. This is the key part of the opinion, and if you're reading along with us I, it's it's pages twenty to twenty one. And it says in evaluating the legal argument. Break the sessions memo in the first place. The fifth circuit had various reasons why the quote benefits. Portion of Dhaka was unconvinced DACA was unconstitutional. But as they noted, the states do not challenge the secretary's decision to decline to institute proceedings terminate proceedings or declined to execute a final order of deportation. Right in other words how to enforce an how to deport people right. It's akin to prosecutorial discretion. Right like the agency has wide latitude to promulgate guidelines to say look like we have a lot of people who are potentially deportable in this country Let's not deport this group of people right so in other words, the Fifth Circuit's opinion did not analyze the forbearance portion of Dhaka. And then here's what the court says. Duke again. Remember, that's trump's acting secretary lean. Did Not characterize the the fifth circuit, opinion and sessions letter as one about forbearance in short, the Attorney General Sessions, neither addressed the forbearance policy at the heart of Dhaka nor compelled dhs to abandon that policy. Therefore The court decides when Homeland Security got rid of all of Dhaka. Including the forbearance part relying only on a memo from Jeff sessions that said the benefits part is unconstitutional. That's what violated. The Administrative Procedure Act Right. They lacked legal justification to conclude that the forbearance part. was also unconstitutional. Because again, it clearly isn't right like the the the forbearance. By the look we set at the time. You know it in episode, one or two like. The circuit again. I would come out the other way. Their arguments on the registration portion of quote benefits portion. They're not crazy arguments right like that is a tough call and a close call their reasons to distinguish Daca from Dhaka. We do all of that in that episode. The forbearance stuff is very clearly constitutional. You have to have another justification for that now. This administration find one. Yes, because all they have to do is do an internal study and say we've determined that you know this in practice has led to you, know ms, thirteen, roaming the streets, murdering grandparents, and and the court will defer to that fact fine, right? That's what we mean by. You know as you put it the fog near smear test. It's such a low bar and these people are so incompetent that they can't clear. That is right so. So that's that's the result and again I would have one hundred percent clear it means trump can promulgate a new policy offer new justifications for it, and it will pass muster under the APA it will take time to build this pretextual record, and we get to elect a new president in that time. If you don't elect a new president, this is kind of on you, so let me say very briefly. The equal protection aspect the majority opinion again written by Roberts joined by the four liberals rejected the equal protection, claim and Justice Sotomayor specifically declined to join that section of the opinion. Okay, so that section of the opinion. Is Not part of the judgment, right? It's not part of binding controlling precedent, but. The howler monkey contingent including meal gorsuch filed dissents and concurred in the judgment of the court with respect to part, for which was the the protection clusky so it. It is very clear that there were five votes on the Supreme Court right now that ending Daca does not demonstrate animists and I could read it as pages twenty, seven twenty eight Go there and re if you WANNA. If you WANNA get angry about again, a decision that has a lot of positive for a lot of people Reading John Roberts. Say there's nothing irregular about the history leading up to the recission of Dhaka that will that rejected the disparate impact claims. That should get your blood. Boil got mind boiling so. So am I wrote a fantastic descent. You should read that. But, but but that's where we stand right. We have gotten a reprieve. This is a rare chance where we can run out the clock But. You know there's only one way to do that Yep. It's by voting in new president. Everybody do it. 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Under this funding program, twenty five percent of the university's total operating budget comes from state funds. A professor at the university was part time columnist for the local newspaper in one of her published columns. The professor argued that quote religion has become a negative in society and quote. Where's title to ban? For it to be his case. The university subsequently discharged the professor, giving his its sole reason for her dismissal, her authorship and Of this column. The professor sued the university, claiming that her distal claiming only that her discharge violated her constitutional right to freedom of speech. The, university moved to dismiss the professors lawsuit on the grounds that the US Constitution does not provide the professor with a cause of action in this case, okay. Should the court grant the university's motion to dismiss? Yes because the first and fourteenth amendments protect the right of the university to employ only individuals who share and communicate its views be yes, because the action of the university and discharging the professor is not attributable to the state for purposes of the Fourteenth Amendment. see no, because the accreditation and partial funding the university by the state are sufficient to justify the conclusion that the state was an active participant in the discharge of the professor. or D- No, because the US Constitution provides a cause of action against any state accredited institution that restricts freedom of speech as a condition of employment. feel real dumb. When get this wrong? Okay? I don't think the accreditation really matters at all and I. Liked it, you said accreditation, because that's what the word is, but I feel like people always say accreditation and now I'm realizing lake accreditation interesting accreditations, too. So I think that that. Didn't matter at all, and not only that it was state funding. Well okay, but so is the fourteenth going to be the one that like you know incorporate certain things to the add on I'm so bad at remembering. Which amendments do what I? It seems to me like this should actually be an okay firing because it's a private university. Yes, they get state funding for operating expenses because they are accredited. But I don't think that interacts at all with their ability to fire professors for whatever they want so. WHO I. That's what I think so I think it's a yes answer. And I think I'm going to look at the no answers just to clarify because I think they helped. Clarify what I'm trying to get at. So I'M GONNA I'M GONNA I'm GonNa leave the yesterday instance pronounce, skip the nose seeing no, because the accreditation and partial funding of the university by the state are. To justify the conclusion that the state was an active participant in discharge the professor. I mean Gosh that's actually pretty compelling way of putting it because it partially re receive state funding. Does that mean? The state was an active participant or dino? Because the US Constitution provides a cause of action against any state accredited institution that restricts freedom of speech as a condition of employment. You know I m more confused about this one. Then I should be I'd now I'm all mixed up Okay, so let's go to the answer was yes, because the first and fourteenth amendments protect the right of the university to employ only individuals who share and communicate its views. Could be yes, because the action of the university in discharging the professor is not attributable to the state for purposes of the fourteenth amendment. It could also be that. You. Know you say I should be able to answer one, but actually all four answers seem plausible to me I. I'm actually not sure I mean I'm leaning toward? The court, being able to dismiss because I just think that's I. Feel like that's how we operate in this country. that. Private religious universities, even though they. Receive Sometim, some amount of of state funding, or whatever I I'm pretty sure they can still just fire. Anybody for anything Gash now I'm totally doubting myself. So which would be the better I'm? GonNa stick without impulse, even though the no answers especially sees you know seems seems reasonable, but I don't know if we if this is reasonable. I don't know if the setup that we have in this country is reasonable, but. Is it going to be the first and fourteenth amendment protect the right of university to employ individuals who share and communicate its views, or is the better. Yes, answer that the action of the university in discharging the professor is not attributable to the state for the purposes of the Fourteenth Amendment F-, so the the professor sued claiming only that her discharge violated her constitutional right. To Freedom of speech I don't even know what the better. Yes, answer would be in that case. Persevere. And now I'm doubting myself because they seem similar enough that. Maybe it's a no answer. I don't I don't know I'm totally lost. Andrew completely lost. Tell you what? Gosh I. Swear that they can do whatever they want, but I don't like these. Yes, answers there too similar. And I I just don't know how I would choose between them, so screw it. I'M GONNA. Go see now because the accreditation partial funding of the university by the state are sufficient to justify the conclusion that the state was an active participant in the discharge. The professor I'm going it's just sounds the most reasonable to me and I'm GONNA. Go with that I I'm sorry if I failed this one I should know better, but I I don't know I now I'm I'm getting lost in this question and all the answers are somewhat plausible, so it's a tough one, but I'm going. See Final. Answer there you have it. IS THE BAR exam fits? 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Protests continue over the murder of eighteen year, old Andre Score dotto and more on the barber and debacle. I'm your host Aj. Hey everybody happy. Monday For Patriots Tuesday for everyone. Today. Is a lot of news, there's a lot of news today. We're going to Jordan joining us in the a block. She's going to give updates on on some of those stories I just went over. Some of those headlines I will be talking later with Steve Vladeck about what was going on with Scotus this morning, and then, of course what's left to decide to from Scotus in the next? Eight days, and then of course some of the more intricate details about what happened between bar and Berman in their cage. Match this weekend. thank you again, everybody for To the show, and then, of course, everyone who joined us last Friday few hundred people join us for our meet and greet happy hour. We're going to do it again. Era every Friday. Until, I don't know just when we decide to stop this Friday I. 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A block as we call them, segments have been filled with a lot of just across the board like horrible and traumatic news in depictions of violence and I have some. Good news centered stories in the segment They're still going to be some news talking about the reality of what's happening, which is by nature, very traumatic and and awful, but just let me know. This is going to be a little bit of a good news block to so. I'll kick it off with something that's happening in Colorado so. The governor of Colorado passed a sweeping law enforcement bill on Friday and. It does a bunch of things that people have been calling for within police departments for a long long long time as we know all of this. Demand! All these demands activism work just organizing. This has been happening for so long before George Floyd it's just really at the front of the American mindset presently, but some of the things that got passed in this bill are things that people having calling for for example the banning of those choke holds which is something that happened in San Diego our city to, and it's been happening all around not enough, but it is been starting to happen, so that's that's something that happened. they also in this bill banned the use of deadly force for nonviolent offenses. That is most of the offenses. They're not even offenses. In these cases where people are being murdered by police, so passing something that's banning the use of deadly force for nonviolent offenses that is something that has needed avenue for a very long time, and it is good news. They passed that There's the and this is the biggest thing that's coming out of it so. They. Made it so qualified? Immunity isn't a isn't a thing anymore pretty much, so. Plaintiffs can bypass qualified immunity and as we know now. More of US know now qualified immunity is what really allows police officers to not be held accountable because they get to just say Oh. I thought that I was acting within. You know my duties as a police officer, and because of that the courts basically pull a back and say all right well. The COP thought that they were doing what they're supposed to do. So I guess there's nothing we can do here. And the qualified immunity is an issue that exists across like all police departments, and there's some history that I read. About qualified immunity Congress when enacted the civil. Rights Act of eighteen seventy one, this was to combat the KKK people who had their rights violated by local and state government officials. They could sue them for damages in federal court, but then hundred years later in nineteen eighty to the supreme, court created qualified immunity, and what's the language of that specifically is? Is that it shields officers from? Legal liability any liability. The rights that they violated. Were quote clearly established? So that's creating a language law language barrier that is, it's a threshold that's incredibly high to me impossibly high to me in so many cases so. Colorado passing this bill that's addressing chokehold. It's addressing deadly force in nonviolent offenses in its addressing qualified immunity. That's a pretty dope, Bill and congratulations to Colorado. And it's it's a start. It's not what has to. It's not the end all be all of what needs to happen, but it is a start in it as a win and I wanted to kick off the block with that. Next story is coming out of NASCAR. I'm sure everybody has heard this story at this point, but Bubba Wallace. He's NASCAR's only box. I'm not familiar with the NASCAR link. Forgive me Let's let's see what is. Stock car. That's the stockcar circuits elite Cup series. That's what I was looking for He's the only full-time black driver in the star car circuits Elite Cup series, and when they the the first day that they opened up Nascar to people that could come in because they've been doing. They'd be doing stuff without anybody in the stands to the first day that they did that. A noose was left. In his garage at Talladega superspeedway. That happened on Sunday It's it's just. Just trump trauma charging for him and traumatizing for anybody that that cares to live in a world that is not. So violently dedicated to the murder of black people in this country, I can't even. Just bubba Wallace. Put out a statement where you know it's reflective of what I'm feeling just so so at a loss for words to. Even imagine how this is. This is something that is this still happening and it's happening to him. And it's. Just so awful, BUBBA! Wallace said that it was a despicable act of racism and hatred that leaves me. Incredibly sat in serves as a painful reminder of how much further we have to go as a society and he was supported by NASCAR President Steve Phelps. He came out with a statement that said unequivocally they will be banned from the sport for life is talking about the the person that left a news or the people that left a news and he went on to say. There is no room for this. We won't tolerate it. They won't be here. That sort of I can't imagine how anybody could possibly not come out with a statement that is like that, and you know I'm not going to give this guy cookies for coming out and saying that, but just I'm reporting on the fact that Bobby Wallace experiencing overwhelming support from the. Top levels at Nascar in all of the people that are around him that work with him. the F. B. I. was notified the day after that it was found in. They are investigating the situation They're trying to find out when it happened. Exactly end in who did it. They didn't give any sort of answers or not. Giving any sort of answers yet but it's just there in the thick of that investigation so we'll follow that and I mean it would also. It's impossible to talk about this story specifically without talking about in the context of Bubba Wallace, calling and demanding NASCAR to banned the display of confederate flags, and he was accessible in that pursuit, and then after he was successful, not pursuit. Someone leaves a noose in his garage. That is no coincidence that is a direct racial violence that is in retaliation for him standing up. For Black people in this country, which is unfortunately something that infuriates a lot of NASCAR FANS I. don't care if you're a nascar fan, you need to own up to the fact. THAT NASCAR is super popular with group. I mean the fact. I even had a band. Confederate flags tells you something. Okay, so don't come at me with. That's like an all now, NASCAR. Shit, arrate they need to be better. There's only one. He's the only black driver in in that circuit that series, so it's like clearly this is. A place that has a fuck ton of racism that they need to eradicate and they have a lot of anti racist work to do so. We'll keep falling development of that story. the next story is coming out of Los Angeles. Andrea scored auto. He was murdered by police in in Los Angeles County in. He was a security guard for an autobody shop and he started getting chased by police, and then he started running. Police say that he pulled a firearm but I I've I've just watched videos of his sisters speaking to the press after saying that she knows for a fact that He didn't have his firearm on him. They're still they're still much to be investigated in that that story clearly, but the point is, is it is? In the wake of all of these protests in all of the scrutiny that is on law enforcement. There is another case of them murdering someone. That didn't do anything. Nothing has come out yet. That suggested that he did anything. It's the same case as it is in all of these other instances that we're talking about that, there's. No. Absolutely no basis. For them. To murder people? And it happened again and people are going to the streets. They took to the streets and what happened after they took to the streets was. They marched. To Compton, it was a four mile march. They march to the sheriff station in Compton and. What's what it reads like it? Similarly to to what a lot of people have experienced that protests is. The cops are asking people. You know very very quickly with not a lot of notice to back up and the second. They decide that they're not doing it fast enough. They start shooting regret with rubber bullets, and they start firing tear gas into the crowd, and that's exactly what they did there. There's remarks from people that were there just completely baffled at how they got the orders from cops to pull people back, and there are people within the crowd that were trying to pull people back away from the police and we're trying trying to keep them away. And in the middle of them trying to do that in the middle of them, trying to heed the orders of the officers, the officers opened fire of rubber bullets and tear gas in to the crowd. This is a quote from someone at the scene. She said I tried to get them to come back by them. The protesters they just wouldn't stop showing and now here we are getting shot getting tear gas and we're supposed to be here in memory of Andres and I know that there's you know like. I think the truth. In quotes you know false fall somewhere in between of these reports that you hear of peaceful protesters like literally doing absolutely nothing and then just. Entirely unprovoked getting shot with over bulletin, getting shot with tear-gas granted I will say I know for a fact that does also happen, but for my personal experience when the San Diego Protests in at Waterfront Park one one day that I had talked about previously on the podcast. How that? How that escalated again in quotes? One hundred percent was escalated by police, but But they just they just sit there. They wanted to escalate, so they sit there waiting for one person to do one thing that they could say oh, that's the thing open fire, and then they do, and that's exactly what happened in San Diego and I would not be surprised to hear if that's similar to what happened there, but like one like one person. Or a couple people walking towards the entrance of a building for example, or maybe like one guy throws a rock, you see these photos of police department posting projectiles that were recovered from the scene at the protest, and they're like literally pebbles dude. They're like little fucking pebbles, and those are the projectiles that they're using to then justify the force of unleashing a wave of rubber bullets and a huge cloud of tear gas onto a crowd. It's just completely. You cannot justify. You cannot justify it in. It's still happening and all the shit is still happening. People are still getting murdered in the streets for nothing. There is no. Change. That has happened yet. That is even remotely on the road to getting us to place where their conduct is acceptable. They're still murdering people in the streets, and they're still firing at protesters. Who are there? Peacefully A. Huge majority of the time, and they're escalating situations to the point where. They find justifications to unleash those rubber bullets in sometimes. I mean it's not even just rubber bullets tear gas which are fucking weapons of war. It's like the tear gas instead. It's chemical weapons, but but there's the woman Lamesa in San Diego who got a beanbag shot into her forehead and she still is blind in one eye in like it's just. It's so fucking. Just keep just keep going. Keep pushing. You know we talk about the changes that are happening and it's. It's their steps. They're they're. They're these steps that are huge wins and huge victories, but the fight is so far from over and all the shit still happening, so please do not relent. Don't step back. Keep stepping in. We all have to transform ourselves into anti-racists. All the time. I'm not saying everyone has to drop their career than go. Become an attorney or whatever and. Work on whatever specific issue they they wanted to take on or something or like run for office. You know antiracism work is something that every single person needs to embody, and obviously every single person can't become a lawyer can't become. A judge or or or whatever avenue you know you might deem is like a dedicating your your career in life's work to antiracism, everyone has to find a way to be an anti-racist in what they do, and how they exist, and right now that means staying engaged I think for for black people And Continuing to sign petitions donate money. Educate Yourself. Show up when you can where you can. That's the only way that's one hundred percent. The only way that this is going. To become a sustainable change that this so incredibly long overdue in this country it that makes. Be Truly sick. Okay. My final story it's coming out of the man who makes me the sickest. Bill Bar Bill Bar. He has come out and said that he doesn't believe there's any systemic racism and policing as has a lot as a as as have. A lot of trump's. People that are in his upper circle What's come out now is something you know it's. It's data. That's been coming out a lot over the last. Century anybody that's been. Examining any sort of instances of police brutality, but it clearly you know we're only starting to see these studies be funded and conducted and presented in a more mainstream way, so to speak over the last couple decades, but there's one that's coming out. That's coming out of the Stanford Open policing project. They collected analyzed data on police. Traffic stops across the country, and they spent over ten thousand hours looking at policing data, and they have published some. Really. Just. In your face cannot dispute them. Findings at demonstrate how racist. COPS are. In the context of traffic stops specifically what they what they have found. Is Police treat black and Hispanic drivers differently from identically behaving white drivers, they analyze data from a hundred million traffic stops occurring from two thousand eleven to two thousand eighteen across twenty one state patrol, police agencies and thirty five city police department. So this is a really extensive. Study, it's one of the largest. That's ever been conducted and what? They're what they're finding. They found a whole bunch of. But some of the main things they found. Is that officers racially profile? Drivers, which is not a surprise, but it's something. This date is really important. Because you have so many trolls that will hear you say that vote. You can't say that will, and then they try to like you know give you some sort of bullshit argument for why that's not true. This is hard hard. Hard hard studied proof that it is absolutely true. One of the things. For example that they looked at to prove this was so. If, you're gonNA racially profile someone. It's harder to do that when it's nighttime. Because visibility is lower right so if you're judging someone based off of how they look, and then you take away the sunlight, and you can't see them as well. The presumption is that the instances of them stopping black and Hispanic people at higher rates of white people will go down because their ability to profile goes down. This study proves exactly that that's exactly what happens. So, that's one of the main findings from that they examined this idea of racial profiling through traffic stops through various angles thousand of the angles they also found evidence of racial bias in cops decisions to search a driver after stopping them black and Hispanic drivers are surged at lower thresholds, lower thresholds evidence, not lower rates lower thresholds of evidence. When they were less likely to be carrying contraband, so they organize. They look at all the data. They found that white drivers were searched only when they had at least a ten percent chance of carrying contraband compared to five percent for black and Hispanic drivers so there's. I really encourage August. Read the name again. Maybe we can share it in our newsletter. We have those for patrons or we can. We can tweet it out or or something, but it's a study. At part at Stanford Open policing project, this is reporting. That's coming out of Washington. Post and you can easily Google it, but yeah, we'll find a way to just give you that link, but I think that that kind of data is so important to consume, so you can have it in your back pocket. Also you know once you've really digested and understood it for yourself, and then you can tell it to people that you're in conversation with. Maybe you know hopefully, if that comes up in those fucking trolls, I said that that need need hard evidence that America's racist, which is just so? Hilarious. It's like meeting. The prove to someone that the sky is blue so infuriating. We were literally founded on slavery. It's like the most undeniable fact that this country, but for the people that demand facts. Here's a bunch of facts so super important to read that stuff in in share it shirt widely because. Facts. have an especially are now there. They've been under attack in its. Facts you know as much as we can. Come back at people with facts even though we shouldn't have to. It's one of the tactics that we can use so it's important to know those facts, so look that up Wilson out the link. Thank you, everybody. This has been corn beans, heavy, great Tuesday and rest of your day. We'll talk to you tomorrow. These messages will be. Bad. Everybody, it's ag in this episode daily means brought to you by better help. Is there something that's interfering with your happiness? Or that's preventing you from achieving your goals, but our help wants you to start living a happy life today. Better help will assess your needs and match you with your own licensed professional therapist, and you can start communicating in less than twenty four hours. Better help is not a crisis line. Line it is not self help professional counseling done securely online. 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Dot Com slash daily beans. Hey everybody, welcome back. It is ag. It's time for some headlines from under the radar. including, this one from the Washington Post public health workers already underfunded and understaffed or confronting waves of protests at their homes and offices, in addition to pressure from politicians who favor a faster reopening of course. We've heard about this, but let the Washington Post. Here goes into some details about some specifics. Lori Trend Will Freeman Chief Executive, the National Association of County and City Health officials. Said, more than twenty health officials have been fired, resigned or have retired in recent weeks, quote due to conditions related to having to enforce stand up for strong public health tactics during this pandemic. Although shutdown measures are broadly popular. A vocal minority opposes them quite loudly and there have been attacks on officials race, gender, sexual orientation and appearance. from that small vociferous. Group! Freeman said some of the criticisms seem to be harsher for women you don't say. Marcus Plaza a chief medical officer at the Association of State and territorial health officials said attacks on health officials have been particularly offline. California, Colorado Georgia Ohio and Pennsylvania this month, and California Nicole Quick Orange County's chief health officer. Stepped down after she faced threats and protests at her home for requiring face coverings in businesses, many businesses as cases rose. The mandate issued may twenty third with soften to a recommendation a week later. Andrew Nimmer professional public health at the University of California Irvine who was part of a county task force, said it was not the first time quick had been undermined. On March seventeenth, which by the way when our our lockdown went into effect in California quick issued a strict lockdown order a day later, it was amended to add exceptions quote. It was couched as a clarification. quicks departure is part of a larger exodus of public health officials across the country who've been blamed by both citizens and politicians for their disruptions. Caused by the corona virus coronavirus pandemic. Ohio's Public Health Director Amy. Act And we've heard of her she. Shifted to an advisory role after enduring months of anger against the states, preventive measures, including armed protesters at her home, marrying messages, including antisemitic and sexist slurs, one Republican lawmaker linked Acton who is Jewish to Nazi Germany another called her a dictator. Georgia's public health director said last month that she receives threats daily and now has an armed escort. For doing her job to save lives. Pennsylvania's secretary of health is transgender has come under fire for the state's handling of the pandemic including from account official who resigned after saying at a recent meeting that he was tired of listening to a guy dressed up as a woman. I don't know. This sounds a little bit to me like people who just hate people for other reasons and blaming it on this But there are so many public health officials that are being just chased out scared for their lives, for public health officials in Colorado four of them in Colorado of left their jobs recently. A day after telling political leaders in Weld County Colorado that their insistence on a speedy reopening, despite high case, rate and widespread transmission was giving him serious heartburn public health director Mark Wallace got seven PM email he had until nine am to weigh in on guidelines for reopening businesses quote churches, salons, restaurants, etc, they would go public an hour later and Wallace, who declined to comment for this article retired soon after that. Theresa Anselmo Executive Director of the Colorado Association of local public health officials said eighty percent of members had reported being threatened. And more. Than that were at risk of termination, a or lost funding eighty percent reported being threatened. And more than eighty percent were at risk of being fired or losing funding. That's. mind-boggling considering most people are cool with staying at home and wearing masks. Not everyone is left willingly. In Colorado's Rio. Grande County Emily Brown was fired. She says after advocating a more cautious response to the virus. Person Right public health workers in California of also been battered publicly by business groups, citizens and elected officials several have resigned after Los. Angeles County official Barbara Fairer. Held a news conference on May. Thirteen, for example saying that a stay at home order may replay may remain in place for three more months. A doctored photo of her with dark circles under her eyes made its way across the Internet one tweet liked or re tweeted. More than one hundred thousand times called her at the most unhealthy looking person. I've ever seen on quote. and. Of course we know about this. The full page ad in a local newspaper Business Council accused Santa Clara's Senator, Cleric County's Public Health Officer Sarah Cody of quote cratering our economy. For being the first in the nation to oppose impose a shelter in place order. Local sheriff is now investigating threats against her. So having worked in public health myself over a decade. Shit needs to stop. This is. I just don't these. People have dedicated their lives to be of service. To the public to save lives. It's just and it's such a small. Group of people causing such. Problems No doubt Trump's throwing gasoline on that fire. but in more Corona Virus News, speaking trump e has yet to distribute nearly in fourteen billion dollars intended to help state and local governments improve corona, virus, testing, and contact tracing. That's according to two top Democrats. You have to wonder why especially since over the weekend, he said I told him to slow down testing, and he said on multiple occasions I started tweeting this on March twelfth. He clearly wants to make the numbers better by not telling you what they are. At the I think the first big public news story that came out about that from his own fucking mouth was when he said I don't want that cruise ship to dock in Oakland California because it's going to increase. My numbers not looks from a reelection. But then of course you know he, he. Many. Many White House officials came out and said you know Oh, he was joking. I was tongue in cheek. I remember seeing Pete Navarro on a on a news program. Laughing gas, lighting us like dumb dumb fucks. Come on. He's just so tongue-in-cheek. You can't even see that just gas lighting us like we're fucking nuts. and. Trump was asked again today. In an interview about about that. Did you really tell people to slow down? The testing. And he he didn't say he was joking He said he just pivoted and said something about we have the best testing and the more testing the more cases. But anyway these two top Democrats sent a letter to health and Human Services. As her and these two Democrats, are Schumer and Patty Murray, who is a Senate? Health Committee ranking member Democrat from Washington? said the administration needs to immediately distribute the funding. This is the fourteen billion for testing to local and state governments, and of course. Actually I have his quote here from this from this This interview that he did today when he was asked If he if he told people to slow down testing, and he said if testing did slowdown frankly I. think we're way ahead of ourselves if you WanNa know the truth. We've done too good of a job. So, he wasn't kidding. He hasn't been kidding the last ten times. He's insinuated that he wants less testing. He's talked about testing being bad. A member wins somebody in pence's chief staff or somebody tested positive, and he was like she was testing great for a minute, and then boom tested bad. I thought for a second. He was GONNA blame. Corona virus on the testing I. Swear to God I would not put it past him for. Can you hear I can hear him saying everyone knows that we wouldn't have as many cases. Testing causes the spread it. You know you put the swab up and you pull it out in corona virus goes everywhere, but went for testing. We'd we'd have much lower numbers. Maybe maybe that's what he means. Testing Causes Corona Virus I can hear him say it. And White House economic, adviser Kevin Hassett is leaving the administration this summer after only a few months, he previously served on the White House Economic Council and return to the administration this spring to assist with trump's response to the coronavirus pandemic This comes on the heels of another economic advisor Andrew Oldham. Leaving his job on the economic, council in recent days but hasn't was one of the folks promoting the use of face masks in the White House, and giving more dire warnings about the impact of extended shutdowns on the on the economy He was also one of the voices calling for another economic aid package, which Republicans are blocking in the Senate Mitch McConnell Kentucky vote. And this interesting Christopher Steele back in the news alleging in. There He. Basically. In some secret evidence, that was given to members of parliament. members of parliament by the way who authored their Russia report Chris. Steele says Boris Johnson. Theresa may ignored claims that the Kremlin had a likely hold over Donald Trump and may have covertly funded Brexit. From The Guardian today quote in testimony to MP's the M I six veteran accused the government by May and in which Johnson was a foreign secretary for two years of turning a blind eye to allegations about trump because they were afraid of offending the president. Steel I presented a doc- about trump to senior UK intelligence figures in late two thousand sixteen who he says took it seriously at first, but he writes on reaching top political decision-makers. A blanket appeared to be thrown over it. The allegations contained in a short summary of a larger file of information, presented in August of two thousand, eighteen by steel to parliament's intelligence and Security Committee I S C. enquiring into Kremlin infiltration into British politics and public life. Steel Accuses Maze Government of selling British interests short by not taking matters further. In this case, political considerations seem to outweigh national security interests. If so in my view HMG made a serious mistake, imbalances matters of strategic importance to our country steel summary, evidence is likely to raise concerns. That Downing Street may have suppressed. The is's final Russia report to avoid embarrassing questions in the run up to the election, and afterwards as Britain left the EU although number ten downing. Street is consistently denied that this is the case. these include whether Russia attempted to interfere in the two thousand sixteen, e, you referendum and supportive brexit and weather of Ladimir. Putin holds compromising information on trump. Who is Boris Johnson's ally? And Breaking Right now. A US army soldier has been charged with terrorism. Offenses for planning a deadly ambush on service members in his own unit by sending sensitive US military information to members of A. Nazi group Neo Nazi group intended to facilitate a mass casualty on his unit Audrey Strauss, the brand new shiny new, acting us attorney in the southern district of New York after this weekend's Bar, Berman Shenanigans. She announced today the unsealing an indictment against Ethan, Meltzer for giving his location, strengthened armaments to the order of nine angles or nine A. That's an occult based Neo. Nazi racially motivated violent extremist group. The FBI and the army thwarted his plot in late May. Of this year, Meltzer, twenty two years Old Louisville Kentucky is charged with conspiring to murder US nationals attempting to murder US nationals conspiring to murder, US military service members, attempting to provide and providing material support to terrorists and conspiring to murder and maim in a foreign country. He faces life in prison for many of those counts. And finally David Korea one of the guys indicted alongside depar- Nissim Freeman show in the impeachment linked campaign finance case has lost his motion to suppress evidence under attorney client privilege. That case is still ongoing in the southern district and speaking of southern district. It appears the US Attorney Who has you know who was formally the deputy? Algae Strauss is is putting the pedal to the metal as you heard that last case unsealing this indictment. Against, Meltzer, and We'll have more by the way on the Bar Berman cage match from the weekend as well as the Scottish calendar, with Steve, lack, after this break, so stay with us. 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Alright everybody welcome back so this morning on the left coast I was up at the crack of dawn for Scotus or Which happened at six thirty. My time and the decisions come at seven, which is what's that nine thirty and ten on the East Coast but only one decision came out. At seven leaving fourteen to go before the end of this term, which is usually June thirtieth and joining me today to discuss Dalton Cross. Professor in law at the University of Texas School of law and CNN contributor Steve Vladeck Steve Thanks for joining me today. So can you tell us about the first of all the one decision Scotus announced today, and then maybe tell us whether it's normal to have fourteen outstanding decisions this late in June. So the only case, we often the Supreme Court today was a case called Louvre Securities and Commission on. It's just a pretty technical case about the kinds of penalties that the SEC is allowed to obtain when it successfully pursued a conviction for securities violations, basically for an eight to one court justice, Sotomayor says disgorgement of ill-gotten gains isn't available remedy, even though the statute doesn't expressly say so. Not exactly a barn burner, and not exactly one of the you know high profile cases. We're all waiting for, but I'm sure there are securities lawyers all over the country. Sitting anxiously by their computers, waiting for this one. And DISGORGEMENT mean basically. Can you force someone to basically Give up any ill gotten gains like money. They made from insider trading and things like that so basically just like just how far in the SEC Goto to claw back. Things that you did wrongly what you've benefited from them. To the broader question I mean I. It is not unusual for the court to have somewhere in the ballpark of a dozen cases left this late. In the term. You know the pattern for the court historically. Is that April session is usually the last argument session, and we don't usually get most of the opinions from that. Till the end of June two months is about you know the fastest. The court turns things around. This year is complicated in two respects on on the one hand, the court ended up here in ten fewer cases, it was expecting to because of chronic virus on the other hand. Krona virus not only interfered with course operations for quite a while, but pushed ten arguments including you know the two big trump financial records cases on into may the first time the court had heard. May arguments in a very long time so? Given the circumstances I'm not surprised that we still have fourteen decisions to go. You know I think it's the court always aspires to be done by the last week in June, but there's no statute. There's no court rule that requires them to be done by then. It's just that they usually like to get out of town. For their vacations and I think this year. That's less of a concern Yes, going on vacation is also something that's been put off by corona virus. So there are really no rules determining when Scotus releases their decisions, and so we could see decisions later than we normally see them I think that you tweeted Ninety six was the last time we had a decision after June thirtieth in nineteen, eighty-six was the last time we had a decision after the fourth of July, but we could see that this time because of the coronavirus concerns in probably the of people trying to get out early. Yeah wouldn't shock me if this pushes into, even say. What the week of July, sixth I'd be surprised. That went much further than that. Because you know the way it works behind the scenes, the court has all of these internal deadlines for when whoever's assigned the majority pin supposed circulate their draft for when concurrence in sense have to be circulated, and so even with the corona virus added delay of the ten cases argued in May. You know that's really only push the arguments back about two weeks. At the most, and so I'd be surprised if we're not done by the week of July six I. Just I wouldn't be surprised if we're not done next week. Yeah, I was I was thinking that as well, and of course I just wanted to waylay any concerns by my listeners a lot of people. Have lost a lot of faith in a lot of our systems in our thinking that there's something untoward going on here with the delays, but I I'm with you I think it's just things got pushed back and here we are, and we will get the decisions. It's not. Yeah and I think also there are a lot of folks for whom watching the court. This carefully is a new is a new call in whereas I think those of us who've been doing it for longer than we'd like to admit you know this sort of end of June, when will be done thin happens every year because the court always picks the last Monday in June as the last you know designated argument a what's called a non argument day, so they were. They're planning to concession, but not have our unit and almost never missed that deadline like usually the last five ten years go later at least into that week. And so that's that's next Monday and I. You know the chances that we got fourteen decisions between now and ten o'clock next Monday are slim. The chances we got fourteen by the end of next week are a little higher, but I don't think it would be shocking if we got only further. I. Do think folks should not be worried that it's going to go much past that this is not a court that's going to try to hide the ball. They're not going to push these cases over to the fall there, these cases will be decided. My best guess is no later than we July, sixth and most of them before then and I know that they can also say all right if they come out July sixth and say here's a few and we're GONNA. Do the rest on Friday or Thursday. I mean that's common as well. You said the way this works. Is You know the court issues guidance? Through its public information office, which goes to the Supreme Court Press Corps. And the guidance usually tells us when the next decision day is, and then also the guidance will tell us when the last decision day, so we could never predict which opinions are coming until we've been told that owed. The next day is the last day because then we know everything left is coming but other than that. We're all. We're all guessing at ten o'clock. Each morning the courts issuing opinions. What's going to come over the transom? Yeah, and it's also highly highly highly unlikely that anyone in the executive branch or anyone outside of Scotus would know of the decisions ahead of the announcement of the decisions because I I've seen a lot of speculation about that and I. Just that's just not something that. That's just not something that leaks. DC is the leakiest town I know, but historically there I mean there are examples ag, historically of one or two notorious times. When someone was tipped off about a case that was coming, but you can basically count them on one hand. And the this a place where the justices have virtually no incentive to leak, the clerks have absolutely no incentive to leak. and. So you know the reality is the chances that anyone really knows. What's coming in until the last day. tend to be remarkably slim. Yeah, okay, great and before I. Let you go here. I wanted to ask you just a bit about the press secretary mcenaney statement today that trump sought to install Jay Clayton in the southern district just to give him a job. He was moving to New York. We just wanted to give them a job. How does that even track first of all? When we have a blue slip, process and second of all you you know under that statute. You don't remove Brennan because he was judge appointed. You have a confirmed person so that just that answer doesn't make any sense to me. None of this sentence, the the number of fair. At this point, the number of different solutions we've been given for what I think looks pretty obvious to all. This is what happened To make a long story Short Jack Clinton is not going to be the next US turn for the southern district. And the reason for that is because the Senate, even though it's gotten rid of blue slips. For Judicial Appointments still hasn't for attorneys, and that means that you can't have. A US attorney confirmed to any US attorney shift in the country, unless the two senators from that state both consents. I don't think Chuck Schumer. Kirsten GILLIBRAND WE'RE GONNA, be consenting to this, so you know Clayton's not going anywhere, but as you say even if they somehow manage to convince those two pretty staunchly, Democratic senators to support a guy with no prosecutorial experience who goes golfing with trump for that particular job. That's fine. They still wouldn't have needed to do what they did to. Berman because Berman under the statute twenty. Five forty six sixty would have kept serving his job only until the Senate confirmed Jay Clayton so. I think I. Think they really got caught with their pants down here and have struggled ever since the firestorm erupted Friday night to come up with a remotely plausible explanation for why they forced Berman out when they did for why they thought they could install. skype carpet Neto. And for why? They thought it was so important to get Jay Clayton into a job. The knowledge not qualified for, but then he has no chance of being confirmed by the Senate for I'm trying to figure out the motives here because I mean you know you wondering whether or not bar knew he couldn't fire Berman because only trump can do that, but but he W-. How could he have not known that? I think so I I. Lo- I to get into bill bars head I think he probably assumed that Berman would go quietly right that you know. He probably walked away from the conversation. You had with Berman in person on Friday I think been reported. You know sticking that brimming understood that he was gonNA get pushed out. Bars sort of played. Nice as he tried to. In the Friday night, press release. Berman would just disappear I think bar was surprised I that Berman pushed back. And second that you know the sort of entire legal community balked not just at fire him Berman, but at the notion that you could install carpet neto as Berman successor. I mean I think you know whatever else wanted thinks about Jeff Berman I. What really offended? A lot of folks in that office was the notion that oust Berman and bringing this outsider to take over when you have a perfectly competent deputy Audrey Strauss. Who by tradition by regulation, would at the natural person to take over on a temporary basis? Once Berman was ousted. So I think barges honestly grossly. What Berman was gonNA, do and grossly overplayed his hand. and you know Dat I think says as much about him. As if this were all malicious all the way down which is you know I, think I think these folks are drinking the Kool aid of the news and media sphere that they consume and don't realize that there are plenty of people out there who don't think the way they don't see you know vast deep state conspiracies behind every government official. was I guess then it just boils down to and competence on or about misunderstand I mean. I don't understand how you would miss. Understand talking to Berman and saying hey, we're like you gotta go however, that needs to happen and and bar, not understanding Berman when he says well, you're GONNA have to get trump to do it because I'm assuming that's what he said. or just okay taken under consideration, and then didn't tell him what he was going to do, and then surprised him the next day sweet and then. I mean the other piece of this and bar sent him about letter, and then trump's never heard of it. I mean these guys kick it out their own way, but you know I. I'll say I mean whatever. Whatever actually happened in the blow by blow Credit Berman right who I think by making listing, he did successfully leveraged the PR storm into getting Strauss as his successor instead of carpenter, though do you think? I mean bar has way more leeway to fire her under five forty one. Do you think that she's I mean? From my public reporting today, she's already putting the pedal to the metal if she was if they office wasn't already before, but I mean. Is She safe? I know I. If you're not legally, but but I think politically. She is because I. Think you know once again. This administration has I think it was ben with who coined the term malevolence tempered by incompetence You know I think when the best statement they get out of Lindsey. Graham is that we're gonNA hear to our Blue Slip Policy. you know that was a shot across the bow and. This has happened before. It's never stopped them. I, at least I don't have A. Recent, historical record of political optics, being a problem for this administration, that's certainly true, but I do think that you know this isn't administration that has spent the better part of three and a half years being routinely enabled by Republican senators, and the fact that this went down the way it did, and they got zero support. include from Lindsey Graham. WHO's the most important player here as the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee? I don't know if that's a sign of the Times or if that's unique to this incident, but says to me, you know bar at some point, try to remove Strauss as you can, but again as as with what happened Friday and Saturday you know to key to me is not necessarily can remove the person who is next in line. The key is whether he can dictate. WHO FOLLOWS AND I. I think that's where he dramatically overplayed his hand, Friday Saturday, and where we're seeing the consequences of it. Yeah, they called us. Bleh and the it'd be bar got away with it with Lou in the DC US Attorney's office, but but I. Think you're right. Because Berman's puts by here, you know in in calling the bluff. They might not be able to get away with it a second time. Not Not legally I mean again I think I think legally it would be a fight as it would have been if they had insisted on carpenter, though but I. You know I mean I. I end the silence of the Republican senators. Here is death in in a way in which you know in prior episodes where they've run roughshod over all kinds of all kinds of similar norms. Had relatively quick statements of support from the relative, the players in the Senate Republican Leadership Yep all right well professor in law, University of Texas School of law, CNN and legal contributor Steve Vladeck. Thanks for answering my questions today. All right everybody will be right back with Jordan Coburn and the good news blocks have stay with us. Hey, everybody. 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And joining me today for the good news is Jordan Coburn Jordan. How are you? I will good. I frequented a local furniture store, because I really needed a piece of essential furniture, and that was fun Yes, I like shopping. Yes, what else. I cleaned my car seats, not for a child for my own, but what are those called? What are those call? Just Friday called carseats. I? I! Yes, yeah, carseats! Wow, we really stumbled on something here. Even though it is a car seat car seat almost exclusively refers to see for a child, even though it is just like. What do you call the seat in the car then for the adults? Wow. We've we've stumbled onto something you're right. We now need a retro name for it. Well I clean those. Day pretty much. How are you? Good today's house cleaning day. The houses cleaned. The bedding is cleaned the towels and bath mats everything it's all. Clean and now I. Just as soon as we're done here, make myself clean, and then because I worked out today, which. which hurt, but I did it and. I must clean. I Must Bay and so I'm GonNa do that. Probably. Maybe I'll have like a bubble bath. Maybe I'll do like some candles and. Reflect on the the good news. Stories were about to hear from our listeners and just sort of. like just have some time. You know Yes, definitely, it sounds Nice. That sounds really nice. We have a lot of good news so excellent. Let's hear it. What are we got? Yes, okay, so our first news. Good news is coming from also just an update for everyone that maybe miss yesterday's episode if he did, we're now inviting people to let us know whether preferred per an answer when they send in their good news, so if you notice a change, there was a change. Okay Yep Yep and your quarantine, confessions or corrections. Whatever you got, let us know. Yes, exactly Okay so our first. Good news comes from an anonymous resistor. PGP's she her. Hey, y'all I'm writing this late on Saturday night from crossroads of Ausage Creek and Cherokee lands. Aka Tulsa Oklahoma. Is You say that oh? Sag I'd say Oh sage, but. Okay thank you since the announcement that the world's first indoor super spreader combination hater event would be held here on June weekend I've been nervous for my community. Detention was especially high today. As you know by now, the rally was a total joke. I was glued to great citizen, reporting and local journalists in life streams in tweets outside of the event Oklahoma Watch and. Read, frontier and others for example when the rally dispersed and protesters were at the gates. I really feared things would end bloody. Aches forty-five didn't get the violence he called for unity happened. Instead somebody created giant trump slash pig puppets, and led the protesters to March the fuck out of their toward historic Greenwood Black Wall Street there. They proceeded to merge with an epic June eighteenth. Block party there is dancing music speeches, more dancing and love. They're so much more. I could add about how impressed I am with t town. We've still have a lot of. We still have a lot of work, but tonight was beautiful, also the aid to GT bynum. The cowardly Tolson Maher publicly resigned today next. It is Hashtag bye-bye them. That's exciting. Like finally. I want to encourage people to contribute to this rebuild. Greenwood campaign and I'M GONNA. Give it to you. It's WWF will just go find me dot com slash F slash restore Black Wall Street. Government me, dot. com slash F. as in frank slash restore black wall. Street. Loved the show have listened to every episode of msw initially beans piece at. Thank you, we love you. That's great. I'm always Oh. Yeah, I, think all of us are always looking for funds that are that have needs that are. Yeah just timely and unfilled, and thank you for giving us in the listeners that fund I'm going to go. Check that out and give them some dollars today. Every episode Holy Majoli. That is a lot. We fucked an shit. About a about one hundred fifty episodes, plus twenty nineteen or twenty msw episodes plus about. A year's worth of daily beans. And then there's all the book club episodes. Five books at about six episodes of piece on average is another thirty, so that's. Two hundred and then whatever? Fifty Times five is another to fifty five. That's like between four, hundred fifty and five hundred episodes Holy Majoli. That is a lot. Thank you for being a listener. We appreciate you so much that you're sending your good news in and I'm so glad that you had a good experience when you were kind of half expecting something horrendously wrong happened so yeah, yeah, that has to be a nice relief right just like a huge weight off your shoulders when you're expecting some shit like that to go down and it doesn't. Everyone's awesome. So great, yes, so great all right next up from anonymous pronouns he him, he says to the wonderful ladies of the daily beans I am. A longtime listener of militia wrote in the daily beans, and I have some personal good news to share I have been working in the area of Youth Mental Health Research for the last three to four years, and on Friday I passed my PhD, Viva, this is personally a massive achievement for me. Is I was a college dropout and I went back to university as a mature. Mature student over the years I have felt the building pressure of watching. Many of my friends moved down a pretty linear path from college to work to marriage to family etc. Within Research. There's a there's a lack of job stability, hence why this pressure has weighed on me from time to time I, have sometimes wondered if I had made the correct decision at all going back to university passing the PhD. Viva has given me a lot of clarity and time to reflect on my achievements in the last few years. I've had several papers published. In some of the most impactful psychiatry generals in the world last year I wrote a grant with my PhD supervisor that will fund me to work on a project for the next four years relatively unheard of as a post doc, and I was part of a team of researchers that is just secured one point four million euros for a project looking at the prediction of psychosis, these achievements have been hard fought, but finally I feel like I. have found my calling I. Guess ensure all I want to. To say is it is never too late to follow your dreams. The doubts come from time to time, but they will pass. Do not without a warrant second. Guess yourself some pass our long in Wendy, but if you're enjoying the ride, stick with it, none of this would have been possible without the wonderful unwavering support of my partner Linda, and my family in general sneaky quarantine confession I have become far too comfortable sending Linda who was working from home in the next room. Funny Gifts while I'm taking a poo on the toilet. This day I have had a champagne breakfast at a beer in the shower. Thank you for the idea Mandy to celebrate the achievements. I wanted to take ladies. Because even if you don't know what you've kept me pretty sane over the past three years. Thank you, congratulations. So so so so wonderful Peach diva is here. We call that the Oral Defense of your dissertation. I yeah, that's. A, really amazing. Accomplishment and I totally I'm with you I, you know I. Damn I didn't go back to school to get my PhD until I was. Thirty. Seven so. Yeah late in life, and then not oral that defenses is a toughie, so wow, congratulations, an amazing the work you're doing. Yes, totally and I just love that. It's like I totally feel that I'm twenty seven, and like I mean you know this whole? Thing's going pretty well, but there's comedy and stuff is starting to. Work out in this career path, but for like a long time I was kind of just. Wandering around and you know trying different stuff, and it's like it's a really. kind of Chitty feeling sometimes when you're looking around at your friend, you know my roommates were like just ever since I had IDA fucking roommate who was an engineering major, who while he was getting? His engineering major also started interning at a law firm where he was doing the engineering calculations to help the law firm determine how far pieces of a car had like flown from a scene at an accident to. To determine you know basically like what part of the car failed exactly. He was doing all this shit, and then after that he decides to go to law school immediately after graduating, and then he goes to law, school graduates at the top of his class, and then starts working for a law firm in. It's just like it's fucking hard. Seeing these people that have it seems like every single move they make. was just like the perfect most timely move and you start to wonder like man. Is there something wrong with me? Why am I so lost so? I completely can. Empathize with you on that feeling of knowing and feeling like you've you've arrived and that's so so cool and I. Really Love the message that you gave us an offer. Listeners just now, so thank you. Yes, congratulations, yes, can Gretz. Appeal behind the curtain. We had to Redo your segment because when I read it I said PhD Viva because I thought it wasn't exultation of celebration, and then what I saw it again. I was like Oh. We have to record this. This is actually what it's called. It's actually called PhD Viva. View. I defended A. Sorry to interrupt defended my dissertation from Hawaii on vacation via like. An online you know remotely, and I was wearing a you know a blazer business business on top, but on the bottom I had A. like a rainbow to and. Like knee-high boots. So that was that was my. World's offensive my dissertation. Love, it so much so that S, Next up for Mike in Ohio pro-nazi him, this is actually an old good news confession slash confession. I wrote down and have been sitting on my wife, and I have been setting out drinks in a cooler along with bags of chips for delivery in mail. That's so Nice I love people idea that we're both fortunate in that. Our employment has not been curtailed by the conditions. There are ref- reasonable ice packs below. Below the drink, so he just bring a cooler in at night and put the drinks back in the fridge. Ice Packs back in the freezer. Every time we get a delivery, I, go out and check what they took and share the use of my wife today. The mail lady took lay's chips and a diet coke and the Fedex driver, a blue gatorade and Kool range to read is nice. I'M FEDEX GANG? Kava one day last month after Fedex delivery. Out on the porch and saw the driver in his truck across the street, taking a short break, eating pretzels, intriguing pineapple. Hotter Ito's is that how you pronounce that J. A. R. T. O. S.. I'm not sure. Oh, I never heard of that okay I. Totally know what that is. I'm just white as fuck, so my apologies and UPS drivers always right. Thank you in big letters on the sorry. We missed you. Post it note additionally. Our cat hangs out underneath the table. We get Amazon delivery photos with our cat in them so I pretty sure that other delivery people say hi to pip in when they arrive now we can cut it off there for good news, or we can add this sentence for quarantine confession I like that he gives us options my confession. Is that occasionally I get door Dash, not because I'm lazy or wanted Chicken Sandwich, but because I want to brighten the day of another delivery person with a cold drink, oh, God. This is what I would stand up in run around. My Living Room would have fucking Nice that is oh. My God I love that. Just. Just just to be able to give something to somebody I. Love It I. Love that so much good person. Mike thank you. All Right! And next up from Nicky Byrne and she her my grandpa passed away in February twenty seventeen before finishing his last thing. Grandma gave me the painting the photo he was inspired by in the frame he had selected hoping I could finish it I worked on it a bit, but was too sad to keep going with. Grab a pass away in October two thousand eighteen. As it turns? A grandma passed away into in October. Two thousand eighteen as it turns out, the project was always meant to be finished by incredibly artistic daughters. My sixteen year old asked if she could finish the painting part of her final assignment for school, she invited her fourteen year old sister to help with a few of the of the flowers. My oldest spent hours upon hours to bring everything together into a final product multi generations of love and one painting. She added poppies because we always called our GRANDPA poppy. She also added his signature next to ours. Now the painting will hang up my mom's. Her daughter in granddaughters finished up her dad's last masterpiece. Holy Crap. That is like this thing we've ever gotten. That's so. Thank you. For sharing that what do that's amazing? Send I'd love to see a photo of it. You should. They should send send us a photo definitely. So sweet. okay and finally from Clare she her. Clare says on Saturday. Cyclists participated in the Hashtag ride for justice. Whereas most years, cyclists celebrate the Long Day of sunlight during the year by going on a long bike ride this year. The San Francisco Cycling Club which has reached all the way through California posted challenge on strata, a social media at for athletes who share their activities called the ride for justice. Challenge to ask was for cyclists to ride on Saturday as far as they could, but at least fifteen miles upload the rights Estrada redeemed the reward for completing. Completing the challenge by donating a dollar for every mile ridden, or whatever dollar amount per mile the cyclists could afford. The proceeds were all donated to the equal justice initiative cyclists riding on behalf of the San Francisco Cycling Club plus a handful of other individual writers raised over ninety thousand dollars, even though it was my first time writing in Los Angeles, since moving from the safe streets, safe cycling streets of San Francisco I swallowed my fear of Big City writing and hit up twenty miles, yes. When I completed my own donation, my eyes teared up to see that. My little twenty dollars donation was just a drop in the ninety thousand dollars bucket way to go athletes. Thanks for your show. Always, firing me to do what I can to help. Degrade or good. I know that daily. Listening to your show was a big inspiration and completing this challenge over my fear of getting hit by cars, thinks beans a claire. Claire, you're very brave for riding your bicycle in Los Angeles. I will tell you that now. I lived. There tried to ride my bike to work because it was only a couple of miles away holy Majoli. That's A super amazing and I can't even imagine how great it must have been to like. See that ninety thousand dollar figure and just. Be a part of it. That's so great. Yeah, yeah, absolutely! Thank you That makes. Me Feel really really really good to hear that. Listening to US helps people you know. Try to be like stronger more present in their daily lives. That's pretty much the biggest compliment I think you could pay me personally, so I'm so glad. That that's the effect that our show has had on you and thank you for sharing that with US sincerely fucking love the skaters dude. They came out in full blast this weekend. They were everywhere. They were wrong three young to you. It was like really really really cool. It was really nice, and it was really nice to see a bunch of people skateboarders that weren't just like idiots. Our trying to bashing windows like I had seen at other process, so that was nice. Yeah, that was awesome. I watched so much video footage of that going down Sixth Avenue. In front of Babo Park I've got you know there's so many people who live up in those more. Those more high-rise buildings run down the west side of of sixth. Avenue, just so incredible to see absolutely. Well. Those are good news bits for today. Everybody, thank you for sending those in and we will be back tomorrow with some more. Yes, absolutely, and then if you have some quarantine confessions, you can send them into the same place. Just hit up our website, which is either the daily beans pod, dot, com or more? She wrote Dot Com Quarantine. Confessions, pod, DOT, com, and You'll see it all there and the contact information and You can send us your your stuff and again. 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The Lawfare Podcast Special Edition: The National Security Law Guys Talk Adjourning Congress, Total Authority and Guantanamo

The Lawfare Podcast

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The Lawfare Podcast Special Edition: The National Security Law Guys Talk Adjourning Congress, Total Authority and Guantanamo

"I'm Hadley Maker and this is the Law Fair podcast April Seventeenth Twenty twenty law fair. Founder Bobby Chesney and welfare contributing editor. Steve lack hosts the weekly National Security Law podcast from the University of Texas law school when they discussed current developments in national security law. This week's episode had lots of content that we thought l'affaire podcast listeners. Might be interested in hearing so we are bringing it to you in a distilled form in this episode. The fourth edition of a law for edited National Security Law. Podcast bobby and Steve discussed the legality of president. Trump's claims that he might adjourn Congress whether or not. He has total authority as he claims over when the economy should reopen and the latest in the nine eleven case at Guantanamo. Please note that they recorded this podcast on Wednesday April fifteenth. It's the law fair podcasts. Bonus edition the National Security Law. Guys Talk Journey. Congress total authority in Guantanamo. Hello from Austin welcomed episode one sixty three of the national security law. Podcast were brought to you by the Robert Strauss Center University of Texas Wednesday night April Fifteenth. Two Thousand Twenty. Bobby Chesney Steve. I guess it would have been tax day panic moment earlier right. Couldn't remember if I imagined or extended by ninety days the filing deadline and I looked at my watch and saw the fifteenth night completely freaked us. Call my wife like we gotta go. Cnor taxes done so. Apparently there's a there's a Ooh Mardi Liederman is calling me Martin evidence. It would be really funny if you get enough sound quality there to pick it up and be like. Hey we're recording live marty. What's going on? I suspect Marty's call me to talk about our first topic on tonight's episode. But the so here I was this afternoon. We're GonNa have a nice fun chat about federalism and in red DABS and the president's power or lack thereof to override local shelter in place orders and all of a sudden twitter starts blowing up about the president's power to adjourn Congress. And I say earls the I started the first and as and as you know I revel in obscure irrelevant constitutional provision that have never been used and so the German Claus. I was like. Why is this a thin and then I was like Oh shoot? There's a press conference going on right now there we didn't know cannon the other day in time and so his summer fresh in my mind but I confess that I neglected to tell my students. If you weeks ago Refu- classes back that one possible might see would be an attempt to expand beyond the adjournment clause so will attack the and its limits is. There is a power this power. There's power resident to adjourn Congress in. Actually I can't remember class but I thought at the time is prepping that glass. It might be Kinda Fun to talk about. The what is shocking. To many people learn that there is a power. But then you learn how it works you realize. Oh there's a reason nobody knows about this and there's a reason why I never ever ever been done in the two hundred and thirty one year history of this country. A lot of that going around trump is trying to top himself. And he's just he's progressively trying to drive all constitutional law professors crazy and succeeded Or give us full employment to man his grist for the mill with CNN. New York is other. He's he doesn't like come up professor student so speaking of Kamla we also do WanNa talk a fair amount about what we had planned to spend much of our time on today. Which is this new. Pr Push that. The president's going to somehow assert the authority to override or countermand these local and state shelter in place orders. Bobby I as will disappoint some of you are in complete agreement about the relevance legal questions and answers in the space it takes debatable issues to divide in this point. That's not quite fair. We actually we will endeavor to find. Where's the the kernel of of support or defense? One could spin up in the right circumstances. Why the individual lines injustice brewers majority opinion that we find more or less satisfying. So we will. I think he's actually. It's really fun to have an excuse to do what we're GONNA do which is not a full fledged deep dive. Maybe a moderate dive is a moderate dive to dive to moderate depths. So a lot of time in Pan -demia Yup very quick quick detour to Guantanamo where there wasn't important ruling in the nine eleven case by the trial judge by the momentary trial. Judge Case I am curious. What what's the counts on trial judges? We've had so far. I honestly Bobby I've this'll be a this'll be the fourth trial judge in when this judges replaced and we got a new one. I think it'll be the fourth judge in like four or five years so particular reason to think that's GonNa Change if they can't resolve it isn't them soon. Restored in a perpetual cycle. You know there's this phrase Being inside The other guys would loop you hear that in military circles it. It's this idea. The other side can can act is operating quicker than you can. Make your decisions in your. Take your actions outside the loop. Yeah exactly so. Let's start with the president's power to Churn Congress. Many listeners are thinking if only the president had the power to adjourn this podcast. But my friends he has no such power. Let me see if I can give us the start with the text here so for those of you who are not actually watching on our screen and are listening at home. What I am sharing is article two section. Three the competition bobby it Yup gotta end so article two section three. He shall from time to time. Give Congress information of the state of the Union Blah Blah Blah. He may on extraordinary occasions. Convene both houses or either of them and in case of disagreement between them with respect to the time of adjournment he made a during them to such time as shopping proper. That's the cause so quick quiz. Say a bit before we talk about the specific question we talked about. How congressional sessions work. It's a good idea. Let's explain the distinction between you know recess in German in particular so in the old days right so in the old days. Congress was a part time concern as what that meant. Was that like take the first Congress right. The congress elected in seventeen eighty eight. That meets for the first time. I think in March of seventeen eighty nine Right Congress would have multiple sessions. Bobby but there would be long blocks. Were Congress was out of session because Congress went home and this was the norm. All the way up to the civil war and so you'd have a congress that would have maybe three sessions over two years and then you'd have recesses right and most of the recesses not all of them but most of the recesses in this time period are what. We call intercession recesses where Congress is adjourned for more than three days and indeed for months at a time which is important in other context because it's during such formal recesses that the president clearly has the power to do. What are called Recess Appointments Which is to fill vacancies? Inex- in government positions in offices in the United States with appointments. That will last until expiration of the next session of Congress So for example if between the second and third session of say the Second Congress President Washington named a new secretary of Treasury. You wouldn't be active. He would be a full secretary of the Treasury. Only until the end of the third session of Congress only until Congress had had time to vote up or down on the nomination This changes slowly but steadily so that now and for the better part of the last few decades right. Congress doesn't adjourn like that anymore. Right that is to say Most congresses which meet for two years have two sessions one that goes from January third of your one to noon on January third of year two and then one that goes from twelve o one on January third of year to noon on January. Third of your right. So so the whole idea. Is that the two sessions occupy all of the space now the Supreme Court in the NL Cannon case in two thousand twelve said even recesses within sessions so called interest session recesses can be recesses reports of the appointments clause bobby if they're at least ten days right and so the pro forma sessions that the Senate had for much of the administration weren't recesses because in theory Congress could conduct business even if only by unanimous consent. Okay this all matters to me is setup because it is no longer the case that Congress is repeatedly voting on when to adjourn under one thousand. Nine hundred seventy statute actually only statue under nine hundred seventy statute that is codified if you want to follow along at home at to USC section one nine eight and let me pull this up on share screens that we can all look at it. Unless otherwise provided by the Congress the two houses shall adjourn Scindia which means basically without a without a date not later than July thirty first of each year. Or Bobby Right. Provide in the case of odd number years thirty first by such concurrent resolution adopted each house by roll-call vote through Germany two houses from that Friday August which occurs at least thirty as such the second day after Labor Day right so there are provisions in the code. Sorry there are provisions in the code for adjournments but bobby the norm has become that. Congress remains in session right up until Congress over. Sorry that was a lot of talk. No no it's great. And so the stakes here. This is this is entirely about as the president stated expressly trying to access as much as possible the ability to make a recess appointments to judgeships to fill offices. Now he's had so much trouble filling judgeships right so so the first thing to say is no as far as the judgeships go. There's no problem there to be circumvented. As far as the officers go the problem is he doesn't never nominate anybody or sometimes when he does. There are problematic nominations. But there's this is not a situation where this is an actual problem for him. So what do we do understand going on here? We'll see this is symbolism. This is this narrative shaping to some extent bluster to some extent maybe it's even just the random hyperbole that he tends to throw out there from time to time sometimes. No doubt greatly surprising everybody. Who's working for him? And this is a point I want to. I want to go to the Meta level just briefly because in in that sense there are some who would say no. We're going way too deep on something. He just randomly said and they didn't really mean that we're going to act on. And because I heard that I got that in my ear a fair amount from folks on our next topic which I think was actually misplaced as a critique because I think he meant very much what he said is he kept repeating it. But I think it doesn't really matter and I suspect under the answer. I wonder if you agree it. Even when the president makes hyperbolic blustery in in rather random off the cuff assertions of the scope of his legal authority. If it's important authorities issue then there's not just it's not just proper to respond with debunking for people like us. It's it's a duty. It's an obligation. It's part of CIVIC VIRTUE TO ARTICULATE. What is wrong with that? So that people who actually might care about these issues understand where the lines actually are any real harm if the president sort of tries did by by accident or otherwise is in the position of kind of adversely possessing power by asserting it. I agree with every single word of that. I mean and I'm the one who's even more prone to go down rabbit holes than you are true. It's a measure. How ridiculous this is. I've been sucked into doing this. Tell you not to get sucked in totally. But I also it's we're talking about this power in particular because the founders this was not a random provision in the constitution right that you know adjourn parliament and proroguing parliament has. Did anyone ever do that? Well Charles First. And how'd that work out for him It only cost him his head. So the founders. I mean the reason why this clause in the constitution is because the founders wanted to actually make explicit that the president generally did not have the power to adjourn Congress right that rather than leaving it on so unspoken. The purpose of article two section three is actually mostly to deny power to the president and to delineate the single circumstance in which this power is allowed to be exercised by the president. I'm bobby we should say because we haven't seen it yet. It has never been exercised right. There is not a single episode. There are instances in American history of the president using the power in article. Two three bobby to convene Congress right so Harry Truman Call Congress back into a special session and it can forty seven to pass emergency economic legislation. But that's different. This is set in Congress home and I understand the conspiracy theorists who say well the Republican Senate will do whatever they need. The president wants them to do. I think there are two different reasons why this is not something. Mitch McConnell's going to want to do on. The first is it would be very easy for the Democrats to shift all the blame for this to McConnell and then we walk through how bobby the president can only adjourn Congress if the chambers disagree so imagine if the Senate passes a new resolution to adjourn Congress tomorrow right. If I'm Nancy Pelosi I pass the exact same resolution through the house. And then it's Mitch McConnell's fault. Congress went home right so Mitch. Mcconnell Adjourn Congress not president trump but still the Republicans and related to that in the middle of a huge economic crisis and an unprecedented public health crisis. You're GONNA send home the people who write the checks right. There's no chance that the the members of Congress would be on board with some plan would serve what purpose for the White House? Well this is the other thing right. So we're not talking about judges right because when it comes to judge Roy. Bean approved right. We're talking about executive branch officers. So let's play out the string right so imagine Mitch. Mcconnell actually does roll over and let trump do this right so you get a bunch of like sub cabinet appointments. That are only as good. They're only good until the next president comes into office. I mean you know the I if if things go badly for trump in November the first thing Biden does on January twenty fires all of these recess appointees right which had had the unquestioned constitutional authority to do so all of this so that you get like seven months of deputy secretaries of certain agencies. I mean now which is why this isn't a real thing but it's but this point it's not real. He's not going to try to do this in certainly. No one's going to go along with even if he tries to float it so this is just another one of his passing fancies. But it's still important especially because of the concatenation of all these sorts of of bogus claims of Article Authority that it be shut down people call out and say it's not okay for the president of the United States who sworn to uphold the constitution to constantly be making these absolute power claims. This isn't he's not James the first and he not Charles. I let me quote Alexander Hamilton. From federalists number sixty nine that guy. Yeah fourthly the president can only earn the national legislature in the single case a disagreement about the time of adjournment. This this is ridiculous. Okay it's ridiculous. It's not going to happen. The question is why is he doing and so right? I mean 'cause I always with trump the questions. If if this is just a stupid little distraction. What is what does he distracts from. And so I tend. Part of what's going on here is shifting. The conversation away from a couple of other fans that have happened Including first we're not gonNA talk about this that much but like defunding the US involvement in the World Health Organization Right Second right the news about sort of how far behind we are on test him right. The the statistics that cannot today as we've hit three point three million tests nationwide which if you're scoring at home means one percent of the country has been tested once one time. Let me let me quickly join in on that on the first one about the. Who thing I will be wants to change that conversation at all because they don't believe that is a dangerous conversation for him. I think it's done. I think that was done both. For substitutes and for Narrative. Reasons narrowly beaten by shorthand. For like. Here's here's the story. I WanNa tell by myself. Because that is ultimately conducive to his larger ended this point strategically essential narrative that is China's fault. Not His fault in of course why does it have to be binary? I do think substantively. I just can't resist saying like Bobby as contributory negligence not comparative negligence. There you go a there are serious problems. The W. H. O. And they send to which they seem to be unwilling to cross China and have people working there who in Sri saw or heard about the Sigli Bizarre instance where the one official was acting almost like he couldn't perceive the word or the concept of Taiwan. It was really something but I completely agree on the second point that that this is about trying to steer away from any narratives or the media focusing on misfeasance in absence of fees. Is there no mission of seasons with respect to all the things that could be done by strong and vigorous at chief executive to help coordinate in supply? The national effort by the way is in his interest. Do a siphon the fact that it should be an interesting may president tried to help in that way but his his bugaboo seems to be just frustration with the closure orders the only pathway out of the closures. The only safe pathway out a bit barring significant medical breakthroughs that all seem fairly far off still is is an extremely robust testing trace regime in extremely robust test regime were not remotely close to it yet and the federal government seems to be if anything sort of issuing responsibility for having a leading role in helping us get there so yeah. I agree with your second point. Okay so then this brings us to the second most preposterous press or no. Actually maybe the most preposterous on the president said this week this is this is this is more and this is the one that really I mean. This is the one that pushed the national review. Like to go all nuclear. Get John You well. I don't like talking about that guy but yes but it's a sign right although I will say even lost Jon you on executive power from a conservative president. That's a side. I will say I appear had so much fun yesterday appearing in Sarah Crabs Classic Cornell and at one point we talked about that. I hadn't yet known what John had said so I- predicted that he would come out against this on the theory that John's John Similar in age Guys like US. Who Kinda come up a relatively conservative John. John Very conservative. Obviously there are certain planks in the platform that interest you federalism being one of them. John's very invested as everyone knows famously or infamously in executive power in the realms of foreign affairs national defense and national security but on more sort of bread and butter policy categories federalism. One would not predict him to be a nationalist over a federal system advocate and so anyways long winded interruption there to characterize John's intervention assigned to the President says authorities so the President says he has the authority to order a state and local governments to reopen. Which by the way they're like what Mark Hamill and one of the new star wars movies right interested in law interesting sentence everywhere and it was wrong right like you know the by authority. He says his total And and then and then but then pence comes back and pet benefit. The trump says. I'm like by authorities. Total but then pens. Who's supposed to be? The adult room comes back and says of course during an emergency the presence that orders. Plenary right right. You've just used different words right. The President Bobby promised a legal brief. We haven't seen it yet. So let's let's walk through all of this right. Emma's tried to do this. In a way that makes them set so most of us are subject bopping to some combination of local and state shelter in place and or stay home orders right those authorities promulgated by our local or state officials under their police powers under the state constitution of the relevant state right every state delegates police general regulatory powers including for Public Health to some actor within the state government. And just to be clear. It's not like even the governor's bobby can order us to reopen. Right Governor. Abbott Kit. Say to a restaurant. I order to rope it. He could just remove the obstacle to them reopen. It proprietor in a free country. The business person who owns that business can decide like Naso so I think I'm sitting this out right so first of all not. Even the governor's can order anybody to reopen. But sure as hell the president and there are two different reasons. Why right reason number one? Because he didn't close them in the first place right. This would be a very famously right. He didn't WanNA close them right. This would be a conversation if he had sought and received legislation from Congress for example allowed him to order the closure of any non essential business that affects interstate. Commerce right out actually probably would have been a viable commerce clause statute it would have allowed him to shut down most businesses. If you'd want into which he did that didn't happen. Such reason number one reason number two. The federal government doesn't so so first of all the federal government. Maybe has the power bobby over big businesses right through interstate commerce clause but the federal government just big businesses depend on which generation of the Supreme Court's Commerce clause jurisprudence. We're talking about. I don't think local schools can be covered by federal statute right unless it's a funding unless spent not under the commerce clause right. I think small businesses especially very small businesses. I think we have. You have a hard time covered under the commerce clause. So we're going to go down surprise winker. Vilbert doesn't change your mind on that. I mean these commercial activities. Surely the aggregation principle applies wicked. It was the market right in wicker. This is this is why this is. I'm I'm talking about a world after right. Where where the economic non-economic activity distinction? Where the whole point is that. Congress can regulate local subsistence farmers. Congress can tell angel rich how to grow marijuana in her backyard right because those are commodities. But I think I I just I not every feature bobby of a local stay stay home or shelter in place order touches stuff that can be regulated by Congress through the commerce clause. I agree that there's GonNa be a slice in there maybe pockets. Yeah but I think that for the main event for for those who are eager to see the kind of me reopened yes is is the overriding or repeal. Lean of any level state or local authority. That is keeping most businesses closed. All something Congress I love it. The Congress has this much legislation. Betting got it. Listen I we've talked about this before on this podcast right. I think that there are a bunch of powers that Congress has already delegated to the president that he hasn't crisis. I didn't theory yet more powers. Congress could delegate to the president has nuisance crisis the critical point right the point everyone across the logical spectrum agrees is at most. This power belongs to Congress and their legislative power. And there's no statute right. There is no statute given the president any authority to do anything like this. Instead right the two thousands the president could do coercively to really really try to sort of forced the issue. And we've talked about this before you can order the entire. Federal Workforce Back to his offices right here too much and in some states it does. I mean in Virginia that would actually I think have a pretty big impact right and right he can mess with fund him. He can withhold Stafford. Act Monday he can withhold cares apt. Money Bobby maybe not legally but as you say you know. My view on this is that would be unconstitutional coercion. It'd be even worse than the actual overt coercion scenario. That was a problem in. Nfv VERSUS IF I B One B Super Sibelius and was flagged as theoretical problem by Rehnquist in south gotta be be a great example of how our could even worse. Bobby he'd lose the lawsuit but it might take that he might win for a while now and of course the the one power. He's he's definitely got this legitimately. His any should exercise as much as he feels. Appropriate is the bully pulpit. The rhetorical presidency is a real power the presidency. He can do that. He can use that but he can't resist now to your point about there's no statute on point. Someone may say but the national emergency affect someone did said as you noted the vice president said I must say this was a disappointing moment. So I'm going to read the quote a please. So here's the original mechanical good food break for Steve Truck said quote when somebody's president of the United States the authorities total which has a nice parallelism. With when you're the president does it. It's not a crime if the president does is not a crime right so when somebody's present United States the authority is total. And that's the way it's got to be I. We had that work for Nixon. Says it's total. It's total in the governor's no that pence gets up and says quote. You can look back through times of war and other national emergencies. Are you kidding me coach? I know and then he goes on to say I've lost it. Where did it go? I if you take a long hard look at Cornell rookie record. This is the Western bit. About how you know so pence says if you go back and look through history. You'll see that the president's powers during war and national emergency has always been plenary. I'd Bet I may have missed a couple of words but is that basically the thrust it is at. This frustrates my screen. My screen froze up when I was trying to give the exact language because what what's clear from the languages he also refers to. We're going to get you a briefing on that. We can brief that alcee. Shoot some really wish. I could find it. We'll go ahead. Sorry no did the belaboring the point too much. So he's invoking the idea. Pence is that because in national emergency declaration has been issued under the national emergencies. Act THIS AMOUNT. Confers Plenary Authority to do what trump is saying? This was not confusing. You were saying. He has authority to order the reopening under national emergencies. Act And of course as you say there is no reading of the National Emergencies. Act itself or more the point any the statutes that the declaration of National Emergency then triggers that would warrant claim that declared national emergency has ought to do with what trump is talking about. There's no statutory authority full. Stop the only interesting questions are found under the headings while the headings we're going to in moment but it ain't they're not statutory headed and I say one word about the national birds is that because we had talked about a lot on this show especially in the context of the border wall right and so I think a lot of folks will say well. Wait a second. Didn't he just use that to do something he wasn't supposed to do with the border wall? So here's why even the border wall precedent doesn't do anything to help trump here. The National Emergencies Act is not a substantive statute and what I mean by that is there is no independent substantive authority that the president gets bobby under the National Emergencies Act simply by snapping his fingers and declared a national emergency in stead. Right the national mercy sack is Unlocking right powers that Congress has already delegated to the president other statutes where the delegation is limited to times of national emergency and sometimes war. Right war or so. The question is there's there's a roster of these these statutes and the question is is anything on that roster that it's like a lock box full of interesting tools. Powerful tools in some cases and the declaration unlocks the lock box. Trump can reach in there now for the first time as ability to use these in the border wall context. One of the tools in the toolbox is the authority to Reprogram. Certain dod budget dollars and he did that famously. And that was what that controversy out about. There's nothing of that kind. That pertains to try to override a state public health measures or otherwise doing things in furtherance of Interstate. Commerce depend on what the vice president should have said is that the president's powers are at his apex are at their apex right when the president declared national emergency that is clearly true because in those circumstances the president has all of the powers he has in regular plus the additional statutory powers that he only has during a time of national emergency. But there's a whole lot of real estate between the apex of the President's constitutional powers in separated powers democracy and total power which I feel like there's a system of government that has the word total total in it somewhere totalism totalism and put it in Jackson. Steel seizure categories terms. This is not a still seniors. Category one scenario and interestingly. It's not a category three scenario. Because I don't think there's there's certainly not a statute that forbids such presidential action nor is it a situation where Congress you know. Kind of toyed with and then decided not to do it. A lot of the Korean War. But Oh as long as we're talking about the steel seamstress case in the Korean War. Why don't we talk about claims that article two under emergency conditions includes within? Its some sort of plenary power. Do with the country needs to be done. Why it's in that movie. That was exactly what was argued by the Truman administration in steel seizures. And and. It's really amazing. In some ways how similar In both cases you have a real emergency going on. No one denies there's an emergency with coveted nineteen just as no one would deny there was an emergency with the Korean War In both cases the thing the president either did do insurance case or kept saying he was GonNa do and he's still reserving a this a second he is still reserving. The claim that he has this authority. Let me actually get to that now. When he said in yesterday's press conference that he was GonNa talk to the governors and the governor's role to kind of make a decision. He prefaced it with saying I have authorized them. I have authorized them to go ahead and open up if when ready. Bobby I've authorized you to open up when you're ready to do right now by the way tonight step says brought to you by Austin Bay. Works Pearl snap which is a fine pills ner highly recommend it so in both cases. Truman with his decision to try to try to seize opera. Steel Mills trump his assertion that he might order the states to open up. There's a two step process. There's an assertion of an authority that Congress could give but has not given and then there's the execution of that authority wants it exists This calls to mind the opinion of one Hugo black opinion for the court and steal seizures. Much less famous than it's than it's Brother the opinion of Justice Jackson but nonetheless the court where it's typical Ugo black formalistic a distinction between the legislative function and the executive function in black white correctly pointing out. That what we're talking about here was Truman deciding to grant to himself. A power that Congress had given other presidents in could have given to him but had not given to him. He decided to go ahead and give it to himself saying well. But it's an emergency so I need to do it. And the answer of the court was. It's an emergency in need are not sufficient conditions to have the power. You have to have it anyways under article two which you don't or you need to have it given to you by delegation from Congress. Same here only this time. It's much worse because because there's a federalism obstacle in addition to the separation of powers obstacle. It's about the horizontal and the vertical dimension. It's especially a federalism problem. If it literally were to be a directive to the governors and the mayors in the county commissioners or county judges if it was a directive to them telling them to change their policies. That's the most manifestly unconstitutional from a federalism perspective. It's a very very paradigm of forbidden common during if instead more plausibly relatively speaking. He wants to do that. But rather were to simply issue an executive order purporting to order the state of affairs purporting to order the private sector to hereby be liberated from Your Oppressive State Local Government Public Health Directive. Then the question becomes whether that has any force in effect under the supremacy clause it'd be a classic example of how will sure that would be the land if it was constitutional to do and that brings us back to the question. Where does the president get the power to do this unless you believe? He has an inherent power to do it. In general on emergency grounds or setting that aside you might make now. We come to where. There's a kernel of an interesting argument to be had and we want we should flesh it out. Can you get there by saying that? The circumstances of the shutdown orders obviously do substantially severely even interfere with interstate commerce. That disgruntled done. That's true and everyone who's had comm law immediately. Thanks wait a minute I remember. There's something about things states. Might DO to interfere with interstate commerce. Oh yeah the dormant. Commerce Clause Mormon Commerce. 'cause right this is the idea that the commerce clause more specifically improperly the interstate commerce or the covers Between the or is it among the stay long among the states clause article on section eight clause three is a grant of legislative power to Congress but in fairness the supreme court has long held that it has a it has a negative yeah negative say radioactive or toxic effect the radiates outward just for being in the constitution in having all this intent behind it to support interstate commerce. It's been construed to have the effect of silently negating some state actions to interfere did either actually directly discriminate against other states commerce. Which is the easy case or in the harder cases where the state is doing is Maybe valuable to state up to a point but yet damaging effect it has on interstate commerce sell outweighs this that we say that. It's a violation of the dormant. Commerce clause in so the best one can save for trump and some have set in their Rick Hills at nyu has has advanced this view in Michael Morley at Florida state. Yeah so a few people said this I will grant the point in in you know. Far Be it for me to disagree with smart folks like them they are. They're really thoughtful on this but I think they're wrong and how far they go with it but to the extent that they're saying that like there's at least an argument here that there's a role for the executive branch specifically. I assume this is how they would say other. I don't know it specifically a basis to go to court in the proper way to go to court to try to get a judge to rule that the state's public health measures at some point might be dormant. Commerce clause violation. I think the abstract. It's true that it that it's a proper role of the executive branch even if it's a relatively justified public health measure you can present the issue in a court may as it has in other context in the past may decide that the states otherwise legitimate state policy or legal action is in fact. Negated in. It's unconstitutional. So you can kind of get somewhere with it now. First thing to say about this is trump was saying he's going to do any of that you're saying he was going to give an order so in that sense trump wasn't just hinting at or what once again grasping at straws to try to come up with the one possible way. You might come up with the legal way to do that. He's talking about do right now. So so was before we noted the obvious separation of powers problem with what he was saying from an invasion of congressional progress perspective insofar as he's going to issue an order of but it's also from this perspective and invasion of the judicial products in the federal judicial power the case that people have drawn attention to is an old chestnut a true chestnut in. Ray devs Steve. I think we should tell the story in Ray dabs in go to moderate depth moderate depth set depth for moderate that death from it shows a pattern of two dimensional thinking. All right so they set to start the wrath of Khan very good has to be said okay can I? Can I set it up? I love the facts here. It's very interesting. Dovetails with my favorite set of statutes 1893. We'll depression going on a little bit. You'll recall the PULLMAN company the Pullman Palace car company this is this is the big massive a railway car manufacturing company in the depression that depression they cut wages by a quarter. Not Not a quarter as in a coin. Dick Twenty five percent wage cut props strike by Eugene. V DEBS IS AMERICAN RAILROAD UNION. In Day intern call for sympathy strikes boycott From others a other workers in the railway Biz in a lot of railway railroad employees. Respond there are you know but different measures at different points in time. More than twenty railroads impacted More than hundred thousand workers on strike and then in some places It got violent or riotous. In one instance. At least there was a derailed train. It was supposed to be there was carrying. Us mail this gets the White House and Congress both engaged. But this brings us to that other. Cleveland Grover is the president of the United States at the time particularly concerned about the disruption of the postal service. And of course you have to cast your mind back to the times and remember the in the late nineteenth century the. Us government's postal service was as if today it was the US government. That's owning and operating and maintaining the Internet and probably also ups and Fedex to It was the lifeblood lifeblood of so much of commerce and one of the main things of federal government one of the main things. The federal government did core function in. This strike was perceived not incorrectly as a threat to it in in some instances a forcible threat to the smooth functioning of it so DJ at Cleveland's direction goes to court to get an injunction and injunction six to bar Deb's Union from Continuing with the strike in certainly nears all elements including these almost preposterous elements such as forbidding. Deb's in the other leaders from even communicating with with the employees who were striking and they get the injunction from a district judge who he talks about the Sherman Act and the Interstate Commerce Act as ineffective in a net effect making it illegal to engage in a combination or conspiracy in restraint of trade. Now that sounds like the Sherman Standard. But in in today's perspective we would never think of that as something you would bring the bear on union activity. That seems kind of taking something that's meant for corporate combinations in turned inward towards Labor Law. Because this was the eighteen nineties that development of a protection for labor law didn't exist in the court treated the unions process of organizing itself in four strike in administering. The strike was treated as a conspiracy to disrupt commerce. So it the things go. On Long Story Short DEB's continues to communicate there's always telegrams documenting his is urging everyone to stay the course with the strike in so he gets held in contempt of court he and other leaders and they get three to six months sentences for for conceited. -Ly Basically violating the injunction and Clarence darrow represents him it goes to the Supreme Court and they're trying to show among other things you know. The there was a misreading of the antitrust laws. The did the original injunction was invalid. That's kind of how they need to argue it or else. He's pretty much obviously in contempt. Otherwise in the court comes in with justice David Brewer writing with an opinion. That is very forcefully in favor of the propriety of what the government had done. So that's where it gets interesting. Does that constitute a precedent? That is in some way now. Gis To present circumstances does it show. The Executive Branch has at least authority to go to the court. Even if not to issue a directive straight off the desk of the president to seek an injunction that will would have the effect of shutting down all the state and local laws some state and local law actions that are shuttering the economy. I think in a bet you think. This is totally distinguishable for at least two reasons. Yeah I have my tear reasons so you go first my two reasons are we have an NBA dubs action by private actors. One not public actors in this case were actions of governments now is as rick and I exchanged exchanged twitter messages earlier. He says on that point that makes it more of a dormant commerce clause scenario. Because normally you don't see the dormant. Commerce clause brought to bear against private parties person's right brings us to the second distinction. These are independent nations. And this is what's really doing the work here. The entire premise of ENRA- DABS is that there was an illegal activity. Underway private actors in violation of federal law in the violated federal law. Whereas here we're talking about something at the clear hard candy core Central Authority of States. But I like I like rick a lot. I like clever arguments a lot. But the you have to re dabs totally out of context right to get to Rick's point because Rick's point is a try to rephrase what you said just in a way that someone a little bit more pithy yard no Rick's point in essence is that deb stands for the proposition. That executive branch has the power to walk into court and enjoying violations of the commerce clause right I mean that's and so therefore trump could su Let's say quote Governor. Cuomo tomorrow announces that he will not lift his order right. If and trump says I am suing you to enjoy your order. Insofar AS IT VIOLATES DORMANT COMMERCE CLAUSE IN RICK says debs would stand for precedent for that. The problem is is that debs. Mix No sense right without all of the baggage of the Federal Laws. That were being violated right. That is to say deb's is not a dormant commerce clause case and we're not no. Deb's is not commerce clause case because DEB's is not a state and the dormant. Commerce clause has never been suggested that it applies to non-state actors Instead and this gets into my bill with Bobby deb's is about local combinations right frustrating the enforcement of federal statutes. This deb's is about the insurrection. Act EPS is about you. Know when can the government use coercive authority to put down local violations of federal law? And the impure says like. Hey his his whole argument is what you're saying. Therefore the lesser included option of just seeking an injunction equity. Exactly so and so and Cleveland. Did I think at one point sending the artisan in the US army governors brought in National Guard militias? But also Cleveland send in the army to Chicago. But this is the point bobby right. He didn't send in the Army to vindicate the Dormant. Commerce clause right. The army did not go to Chicago. To enforce dormant commerce clause. The army went to Chicago. To enforce the underlying federal statutes that the pullman strike was obstructing the enforcement of and so you know deb's I think stands most understandably for the proposition that the executive branch needs no special warrant needs. No statute needs no special authority to repair to court right short of sending in the military as a mechanism for enforcing federal statutes against recalcitrant local local obstruction. So without taking issue with any of that I would like to see what Cleveland actually said. Soon there's a declaration and we should try to find there is it's in the I can I can probably find it. It's in the RV Center for military histories comprehensive volume on use of military force for domestic disturbances. I'd be curious to see whether he actually framed it in statutory terms. Because I can well imagine because that's also a public in rhetorical document that it had broad references gist interstate commerce. But either way definitely matter. I think it's perfectly fine. In safe to concede the point that the executive branch can indeed often has gone to court to challenge official state actions on the ground that they interfere too much with the commerce clause. In fact I think that's the very paradigm of Pike case under the Commerce Clause Nothing wrong with that. The the problem is the that's not remotely. What trump or pence were saying pencils claiming plenary generic authority to do what needs to be done during emergencies and the president was claiming authority to direct the activities of Governors Etcetera anyways? Even if trump came out tomorrow and said sorry. I wasn't clear. Sometimes I get carried away what I meant was I will direct the justice department to elite dormant commerce clause claim so. I feel that means the courts are the boss of this secondly they would so clearly lose under the current factual circumstances. There's a reason or reasons in that claim for two reasons. First the principle critic of the dormant commerce clause on the Supreme Court justice. Thomas the commerce clause is not exactly popular. He says invention that's in Arkell when it's an article. One section eight not the subsequent section that talks about restraints on states but even if even if the court was perfectly fine with applying the pike analysis in running a relatively ordinary dormant commerce clause analysis. This fact pattern seems to be. I suppose one can say you never know what the courts might WanNa do. But the typical case in which the court is willing to strike down a state action under dorm commerce college grounds is not the state using its public health powers in the thick of a pandemic where where the public health authorities largely are saying that right now this is a necessary condition to save lives. I think I'm perfectly comfortable saying it is inconceivable inconceivable. As long as it's like this. There's not the slightest chance the court is going to sound like. Yeah we're GONNA go with the executive branch on this one. It's just too just too much. It's certainly true that over time that that hopefully will change and you can even imagine a situation which was a public health medical breakthrough and they're actually is suddenly a dramatically reduced need and yet somewhere. Some County Commission or mayor is holding in plays or a state governor is holding place with the county and economic shutdown. When they truly don't need to be or at least it's very arguable. They don't need to be. Yeah you can imagine. Dormant Commerce clause ruling. In that case released. It would still have that. That's not this case trump's talking about I mean the problem is I mean just even for judges who like the dormant commerce clause. It's not a shelter in place. Order doesn't discriminate against interstate commerce discriminates against all commerce. It doesn't doesn't preference or prefer. Local commerce over interstate commerce right. That's not fatal to the door commerce because under the discrimination you still need. You still need. You still need the balance. But Bobby there are Supreme Court cases that suggest that public health tilton favor of the state. Oh yeah no in fact to go back to August twenty four. But that's that's an old chestnut that is no just now love that case I recall that that is where you get the DICTA for Johnson. Justice Johnson wants wants to talk about this idea and wants to rule on any forces Marshall to say in passing almost as if he's found his colleague. Ya Okay fine. Yeah there could be something that will see later Wilson Creek GonNa realize it a little bit more but in Gibbons Viagra than they're such strong language from from from Marshall saying like of course New York is still allowed to employ its quarantine laws or other public health laws because that's core state interests that the interstate. Commerce concerned doesn't override debt that that goes all the way back. I think we've kicked this one enough that I was almost up to. I'm looking at the army military history document right now and I'm up to the PULLMAN STRIKE. I'm trying to find okay. Dig A tap dancer. Regards right it's fine. Let me say some actually have something. I want to talk about it while you're looking there. Sure there's some really cool and interesting track a contact tracing stuff going on in Penn -demia right now in so let's talk about that real briefly Avalon Google made a splash by announcing that they were gonNA collaborate on adjusting. Both I o sin in Android in ways that would make it much easier to develop a Singapore style. Local storage of the data only contact tracing APP. Where if your phone's Bluetooth? Range of the other person's found for enough of a period of time. It del exchange basically an anonymous is but but collectible a moment of contact. If later on so. You're logging always contacts. You've had the trip that standard then go the doctor. You've got covered. Nineteen the doctor. Certifies it through some kind of process to determined? Then there's a way through this this APP that everyone who did have that contact with you. Who's got that? Connection recorded can get a notification with some sort of information which could be calibrated as just notice. Maybe she go yourself tested Beverly Hills cop the reference Or deep cut there or maybe even if it's tied him set the more draconian it's a directive under local public health laws that you're now to self quarantine. This is set off a lot of interesting commentary. I posted on law fair about this the other day to put it in context with the larger story of what are the options for contact tracing Beginning with the traditional existing option of voluntary interviewing conducted by The Nation's Impressive but nonetheless finite number public health field investigators. Who Do these things in kind of running the gamut from there to other other possibilities and noting that if we do go with something more heavy handed intrusive especially if we have legislation requires something like the contact tracing APP and above all if it requires not just the contact tracing but location tracking which it might if we if we really think that that's the way out of it you never know There needs to be a sunset there needs to be Real time public reporting auditing by some inspector general or other. Such auditing type function There needs to be automatic requirements. That the code wired into the code. The data deletes at a certain point Some specific number of days and so forth A lot of safeguards that would need to be legislated. If we're GONNA do this in a way that's mandatory. Why would it be mandatory? Because if you don't get a lot of people doing this people debate about what? The percentage of the population needs to be to make this effective. Then it's not gonNA help enough. I've heard people say forty five percents. I've heard people say sixty effort. People say eighty percent. I don't know that there is any scenario which eighty percent of our population carries their phones with them phone's enabled with this APP. That are on powered and inner with people when they go out and about. So maybe we're never going to get there but in any event if we do try to go there. Lots of safeguards needed Steve. Did you find grover? Cleveland'S PROCLAMATION. I think I did standby Shoot I don't have the literal text of the proclamation but I have a reference to with them to put on the screen right now cool. So this is from the Army Center military histories history of use of federal troops in domestic disorders. And Bobby look at the left hand. Page this page one forty four of the eighteen seven hundred nineteen forty five volume. You see this paragraph in the middle to geld arguments so that was the governor of Illinois and Cleveland. Tersely replied that he had ordered federal troops to Chicago in strict accords with the Constitution and federal statutes and had issued somewhat belatedly cease and desist proclamation to the rioters right so in other words that there was a federalism fight because Cleveland was doing what the governor did not want him to do in. Cleveland was saying I'm using these statutes and my constitutional authority to put down the strike. That's interesting yeah governor. Bill Annoy who did not want relativity in their correct. So I said listen I. We've spent an awful lot of time trying to make lemonade out of these lemons. Right I mean I think the short is you and I think even a creative reading of Enron DABS doesn't get the president anywhere close to what he's doing but I think it's important to stress like this is why we care about these nuances. Because you know you and I neither of us are especially Timid defenders of the idea that the executive branch has incredibly broad powers to respond to particular emergencies but one of the things that keeps those powers and check is nuance is understanding of it. Like those powers are finite those towers have limits and those powers are not just available whenever the president snaps his fingers. And if so you know this is a textbook example of trump. Doing exactly what I find most distressing about his presidency. Which is saying you know I can do it. Never mind the legal arguments and his base. Say of course you can because Obama Simla Yup. All right Dan Lewis tour's we're going. We're going all over the cultural tonight. He also had a taste for shiny golden flashy things. I would never put president trump in the same sentence as Louis. The fourteenth podcast. We've talked about Charles. I Louis the fourteenth and Alexander Hamilton. That'S GOT TO BE A. I love it so on Guantanamo. There was a ruling by the trial. Judge in the nine eleven case I guess it was either last week or early this week. And in essence. Bobby the ruling is that The defendants in the nine eleven case will not have access to be unclassified to the start to the classified full version of the Senate intelligence. Committee's study into the CIA returned. Re Rendition Detention. Peregrination program Basically that they have not sort of shown that they are entitled to that evidence as part of their defense in the nine eleven case I have not yet seen a written opinion explaining rash on this decision. So I don't want to weigh in on the merits yet. Bobby because I think we should wait to see what what the actual rationale is. Just want to say that I think this really dovetails with the point you and I both made although perhaps is stronger than you that you know. The best case scenario for the government is that these these capital convictions are going to have to survive oppose conviction appeal to the DC circuit. And I do think it is reasonable to wonder whether these kinds of rulings are actually going to make it harder right for these decisions for these rulings to survive that appeal if you're denying defendants access to potentially material not exculpatory evidence. Bobby nothing in the RDI report could possibly be exculpatory but mitigation evidence in a capital case. Right that's where I could see. You Know Civilian Article. Three judges. Being a little squeamish. Do you think that if this case was going down in the southern district in the same you know discovery? Requests made it's predictable. How would come out as it? Is it obvious that the request would have been granted? I you know. I don't know that I think there might have been a real fight over providing the defendants or at least they're council with redacted summaries of that gets closer to what's in the classified report as opposed to the the the executive summary of You Know I. I don't know that for a fact but I do think that it's at least a question. And they were going to be a lot of these questions sort of baked into the nine eleven trial as we get closer and closer to some inevitable if you know forever in the future trial date by the way Doug I found. I found the president's proclamation it's Miller sinners websites got it. That's what is that went wrong. July eighteen ninety four blocking mission regarding the railroad strike. It's not written up as a legal documents. It's the proclamation messaging to the strikers that they need to spur sped. But Bobby's not because they were not because they were interfering right now not because they're violating the dormant commerce clause but because they interfere with. Yeah here I'll read. There's none of that. It's not about that at all. That's not the this isn't the basis for going to court. But this was the basis for actually using the force that justice brewer talks about being the greater power within which the injunctive requests was a less power whereas by reason of always wanted to. Y- BE GROVER CLEVELAND. So here I go. Whereas by reason of unlawful obstructions combinations and assemblages of persons become impracticable in the judgment of the president to enforce by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings the laws of the United States within the state of Illinois especially in the city of Chicago within said State and whereas for the purpose of enforcing the faithful execution of the laws of the United States of protecting its property and removing obstructions to the United States males in the state and city aforesaid. The president has employed a part of the military forces of the United States So yeah it it. This at least wasn't framed as as an interstate commerce. You guys are violating Federal Statutes. And I need to enforce those federal statutes and therefore ordered to disperse. I'm sending in the military and I'm suing you at Bobby Chesney. I'm at Steve Underscore Vlada. We are podcast. You know Bobby Tuesday was. The president has total power today. He's you know a German Congress. What what will tomorrow Brim powerful reopening? Jesus fucking Christ their everybody audios.

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Facebook Live Town Hall feat.  Joe Sacco, NV Assembly District 16

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Facebook Live Town Hall feat. Joe Sacco, NV Assembly District 16

"Gra going awesome great great Q. And this is bird road. So yeah we're coming to you. Live on facebook live Trying to get comfy trying to get accustomed to the space accustomed to recording equipment. Normally we'd have a little back and forth bantered. Open up the show being on some ECO systems absent instead. I have the lovely Gina Mazzoni and I want to welcome on behalf of Gina and our guests who. I'm about to introduce everybody. Who's watching the road? Virtual Tom Verde road. Virtual town hall hosted by Myself Gina. Mazzone were coming to you. Live on facebook from the campaign page of our returning to time guests. Joe Sacco Joe was a fixture in Las Vegas Politics a union trade show and convention worker with Inc. local seven twenty stagehands. He's a proud member of the LGBTQ COMMUNITY. Licensed realtor Small business owner social justice activist activist and an advocate for society's most vulnerable people. He believes that change starts with each and every one of us and he's running for Nevada semblance district. Sixteen Joe welcomed a bird road. Hey thanks a lot. Q- It's nice to be back appreciate you so we're going to get into it in a second but first I want to urge people to visit your site vote Joe Sacco Dot Com. Follow your facebook page which you're on right now. How easy is that and Get get in touch to help out with the campaign. Get involved in any way that you can now. The last time you were on Joe. It was a disaster. We had this we had A. We had a great conversation and that are call service back then sort of swallowed up the file and the interview was lost to the sands of time so this time around. I think we figured why not up the ante. We'll do it. Live running through zoom and hosted on facebook live. Just get as many moving parts as possible and made it as complicated as possible so I. I think it should work out well though. I think we've got everything set up If you are a fan of Joe's but you're wondering who we are. We are burrowed You can subscribe rate and review to our award. Winning satirical leftist podcasts on Apple podcasts. By defy pretty much anywhere. Podcasts are found bit. Visit US on Burdwan PODCAST DOT COM. Follow us on twitter. You can follow me at David underscored Kenyon as so joe over the next hour. We're going to be peppering you with some questions. Are you ready to get pepper? Let'S SPICE IT UP Q. I'm ready to spice it up the first thing I always like to ask. Folks who are running for office is why. Why are you running? Well great question you know. For many many years I helped my mom Gail Sacco and A bunch of community members we Help THE HOMELESS HELP. The poor shared meals with people and You know back in college at UNLV. I got involved with marathon marijuana reform laws and that sort of legislation activism Got Me even more involved with the Democratic Party and when When my mom? Gail Sacco passed last year in August. You know I realize that there's no time like the present and we only have now and twenty twenty with the covert nineteen pandemic with everything that's going on in our city and our state in our world Again you know now is the time to act. We've got so many pressing issues and I figured you know it would be a disservice to my mom to not move forward and take my leadership in the community to the next level. So that's why I'm running so one of the reasons that you're on our show obviously is that you are a progressive in all endeavors. And we've talked about this before again in conversations that have been lost to the sense of time but I was wondering if you could tell us. About how structural challenges sort of present themselves to Democrats like you to progressives like you in the face of trying to you know engage in electoral politics that you're doing now getting elected or even pushing other candidates in Nevada. What are those structural challenges? Like because I know that they're the kind of challenges that you've been taking on for years. Yeah great question and so you know whether we're talking about Democrats or Republicans. I think the real conversation should be about the people in the establishment and let me just define establishment as corporately controlled candidates that have their hands tied basically so when you have. Democratic candidates taking big money contributions like here in Nevada a lot of Democrats and Republicans take contributions from Barrick Gold. Barrick gold is the mining industry giant. They have a sweetheart deal that is built into our state constitution and because that there are taxed very low A. Hiller you know they they They take the resources out of our mountains out of our backyard and And they're often the wind. You know through Utah Up to Canada with the prophets so when we're talking about systemic challenges for progressives what we're talking about is being up against the money machine so being a real progressive to me is about standing up and saying no to the big gaming money no. It's the big pharmaceutical money and no to the big industry money that let's face it when people write you a big check You've got to answer the phone and more than likely you're going to do what they say. So I'm the kind of candidate in this race. The only candidate in this race that has only taken small individual contributions from everyday people like you and I and because of that I am unbought. I'm on bossed and I can speak for the people for the working families of Nevada. We hear that a lot lately from candidates like you and a lot of people who are sort of swearing off that corporate money. But it's tough because it's a lot of money you mentioned all of those industries that come knocking especially when you have a decent chance at a at a seed or a position of power if puts the progressive of the party at odds very frequently with the more corporate led wing of the Party and I just wonder from your perspective a how challenging is it to you never see that I always talk about how Republicans in in some ways. I admire them because you never see them at odds with each other they will find ways to come to come together and and like not invite like that. What is it like to be You know people call purity test or whatever uses nonsense language but like what is it to be at odds with what is it like to be at odds with a whole wing of the party at times. Well it's not a good feeling. Let me be honest in this campaign. I've learned a lot of new things about running a professional respectful respectable campaign. And I'll just give you another example of how the system has rigging behind the scenes. You know we didn't get a whole lot of endorsements official endorsements in this race and I'll tell you why that's because people make inside deals. They have inside relationships. Some of the organizations for instance. They didn't return our phone calls. We didn't get invited to interview and another thing is in the Democratic Party. We see a lot of Checking off boxes so candidates run around from organization to organization and they say I'm this check off a box. I'm that check off a box. And what happens? Is They bank up a whole lot of endorsements that they get to put on their mailer or on their website and essentially they are trying to bamboozle the everyday voter because these organizations are run by a handful of people and these organizations for the most part? They don't survey their membership to do an endorsement. They have a small panel of two sometimes three four or five individuals that are the insiders of those organizations and when they sit down with establishment the insider. Pick what happens. Is they end up writing a check for five thousand dollars which is the maximum in Nevada for the primary? Then they write another check for five thousand dollars in the general and that gives an unfair advantage to the to the democratic insider and again what that means is if we vote for the same old same old people that we see the most billboards the most signs. The most advertisements and these are some of the candidates. Don't even a platform okay. That don't get into specifics. That don't take chances so to speak. And I think the time is now that we elect bold progressive candidates and for Nevada State Assembly district. Sixteen which encompasses by the way all the hotels and casinos. The major ones the airport university. And the Las Vegas Convention Center which when we reopen Nevada that is the powerhouse of our economy and the powerhouse of our middle class. You know I think I'm not candidate in this race because of how we fund raised because of how we've campaigned and hopefully In this in this eleventh hour of the race we can seal the deal and reach the voters with our platform because these are more than ideas. These are these are the plans that will change people's lives and and Ultimately the entire fabric of of our community so gene. I want to give you a chance to ask a few questions too but I wanna also let all of our listeners know that we are taking live Q. and A. and we will try to get to as many of your questions as possible Old Friend of mine former politico Editor Sergio boost those who now is at the South Florida Sun Sentinel running. They're running their opinion pages over there. Dropped the question. Joe Would you support a constitutional amendment to get money out of politics absolutely in a word absolutely in fact? Not only getting money out of out of politics. Which we do that. In a number of ways we could create laws in our states that ban large contributions from packs. We could do a state level. overturning of citizens united which allows corporations to be treated like people and Let's see what else can we do? We also have a more fair electoral system and instill something called runoff voting. Or in some states they call it fusion voting. Where let's say there's three Democrats in a race and You know you have a first pick and a second pick but you don't really think that your second pick has a chance because they don't have a lot of money they don't have a lot of clout they don't have a lot of endorsements what a fusion or run off voting system would allow is it would get rid of that spoiler effect and then people could could rank choice. They're they're they're politicians their leaders and I think when we do that as well as open up the system to More third party and non partisan candidates. I think that when we do that we're going to see candidates that represent everyday working. People millennials and underserved groups like the Lgbtq community are black community and especially here in Nevada are Hispanic community. So I wanted to ask you. You've been involved in politics for quite a while. How did you get involved in the first place? Tell us about. Yeah Great Question Gina. I was actually at UNLV. Right here in Nevada. Getting my bachelor's degree in criminal justice and I stumbled upon a very popular nowadays. Plant medicine that we all know and love to be cannabis and frankly without being silly about it. Marijuana just really blew my mind. It opened up a new way of thinking about society when I did my research about the war on drugs. I realized how unfair it was that you know. Middle Upper Class I'm generalizing here. But middle upper class white people were able to get marijuana enjoy marijuana even when they got in trouble. You know you could get a good lawyer and get out of trouble. And then looking around and seeing the disproportionate effect on our black and Brown communities and when I saw that injustice and I tied that in with the the military industrial complex I was just Lit Up no pun intended on politics and I realized that there's many many areas of our society that have these inequalities and from there. I went on to do Years of pro-peace activism and then Discovered groups like food. Not Bombs and. My mom got hooked on the idea that sharing food giving food to people as a right not a privilege and You know and now here. We are today many years later and I've been involved with politics with Iot local seven twenty. I was elected to be an international delegate and we protested at the trump. Hollywood tower in fact I took a lead role on that. And really it's all about speaking truth to power. You know in two thousand sixteen. A lot of people were devastated. A lot of Democrats were very upset. On how things all panned out at the end of the day and I'm here today to say that we really need to start building. Coalitions not only with Democrats but also with our nonpartisan neighbors and friends and family because a lot of our platform which is about healthcare housing education transportation and criminal justice. These are all things that everyday people want commonsense solutions so you know long story short. I just know that life is too short. Life is for the living and I'm here to help make the community better one day at a time and I mean it's real popular now to be active in politics. I mean everybody's doing it which is a good thing. It's a good thing to be progressive but in a way you could say that you've been doing it before it was cool and so you've been doing it for a while. What skills and experience do you bring to the table? Sure yeah well In the twenty five years that I've lived in this district of worn a lot of hats. I've been a member of the Union for Seventeen years so I think my experience working hard doing physically demanding labor supporting our trade show and convention industry here in Las Vegas. You know getting blisters on my hands getting sore feet working. You know twenty one. Twenty three hour shifts setting up shows for large corporations that bring visitors to the city Also you know having my My college education and And as well you know being a small business owner I've been in the real estate industry for four and a half years and You know I understand what it's like to get up dress up and show up every day and work hard for a living because look if I don't get up sh Dress up and show up. I don't get paid and you know in fact right now. I can really understand firsthand. What a lot of Nevada and especially here in southern Nevada are feeling with this pandemic with Kovic Nineteen You know myself. Many Union brothers and sisters neighbors friends and family were all sitting and waiting to get through to unemployment. I've called thirty forty fifty times a day every day since March twenty seven and I still haven't gotten my unemployment luckily for myself and my family. We've gotten some food assistance. We've gotten some rental assistance. But we're all just barely getting our head above water and that's why the main plank of our platform with this people. Power campaign is to create laws in Nevada. That would bring us to a Medicare for all system that means that no child no grandparents no individual regardless of your employment status regardless of whether you're black or brown or white regardless of your economic position in the world everyone is GonNa be cared for because we have seen so much in the last few weeks. How fragile human life is and that's something that brings us all together you know and and we WANNA do that system with no co payments. No deductibles and again. I'm the only candidate in this race. That's talking about these real issues and has a real plan to get it done and this isn't your first Rodeo. You've ran for office in the past Tell us what have you learned from those past experiences? Oh sure absolutely so I ran for office. This is actually pretty funny because I ran for office the very first time. I ran for City Council in two thousand seven I was you know a young twenty seven year old man. I had no idea what I was doing. My friends were all activists. Pro-peace activists people that were doing work in different areas of the community. We through this Hodgepodge Rag tag team of people together and we had a budget of thousand dollars. We had no idea about electoral politics. We were simply grassroots activists and looking to make a difference we were very idealistic and although we weren't successful in that race we were able to bring a conversation and and move the other candidate to the left to a more Progressive stance on issues right here in our backyard and again I learned a lot from that experience. I learned even more though with my union I h Ese and that by the way represents the international alliance of the Ethical Stage. Employees were the stagehands. The Wardrobe Workers Av Tex. The theater people were the ones that are all dressed in black. And you never see us or hear from us. But we make the magic happen for Las Vegas and we are the backbone along with all the other trade unions and Convention workers so you know it might time with the Union. I was elected. I I was elected at like I said as an international delegate was elected as a district delegate to represent the thousands of workers here in southern Nevada and And as well I was one of the founding members of the Young Workers Committee and let me just say that right now in our Labor Organization specifically we most recently elected a very very diverse Executive Board we have women. We have We have People of Color. We have under served under Represented people of the rank and file and again just to bring it back to endorsements you know I believe that unions that organizations should always look to their rank and file in in steering the ship in in the political spectrum. So I learned a lot and You know we've run a very professional campaign. We've raised a ton of money. We've raised almost ten thousand dollars and we're just shy about a thousand dollars away from sending out some really powerful mail pieces so that we can reach the voters and have a fair level playing field with the other candidates in this race awesome cute. Yeah you know and I want to turn to current events a little bit and I mean right now is a really tough time. And we mentioned it at the top of the show. I CAN'T IMAGINE. Joe What it's like trying to run a campaign right now how difficult. It must be campaigning. I mean it's all about handshakes but it's more than that too. It's personal connection and you know showing yourself in person to people who haven't seen especially in election like this in assembly election with that kind of footprint It's about knocking on doors. I wanted to kind of dovetail a question that we got off of off of the chat a with a question that I already had. How are you approaching this camp? How are you purchase campaign? How are you trying to retrofit way that you're campaigning? To get in front of people and talk to people. Obviously doing some of it right now but What is your strategy how you had to tweak it and on the topic of Kobe nineteen with the upcoming budget deficits that you know that Nevada is going to end up seeing just like every state just like every every municipality every every government in the country A. What would you prioritize funding for? Because you know there's going to have to be cuts so I guess my question is two pronged right however you dealing with this campaign in this difficult time to borrow overuse quote that everybody's spitting out these days and then how will you deal with. You know once you're in the seat. How will you deal with this difficult time or the aftermath of a really? Yeah well first of all. Let me start with the difficulty of campaigning online. We were getting a lot of momentum early on in this campaign like I said it's very people powered and with everyone on Locked down we can't do the traditional fundraising like Going to events going to Democratic Club meetings We've done a lot with zoom. All the endorsement interviews have been over zoom. We had a bunch of really really fantastic videos that I produced with one of our campaign. Staffers we did so in very safeway's with a distant saying and wearing masks when we were closer than six feet and you know again. The corruption is just inherent in these campaigns. In fact what happened was our facebook page this campaign page that. You're watching this video on was maliciously and And frivolously reported five times in a row to facebook so we had our ads account turned off five times in a row and every single time when we appealed facebook said okay. We made a mistake. Ads are back on but then the six time that we got shot off. They said you're permanently deactivated and again. It comes down to money and and meeting face to face or through the camera through the computer through our phones with the voters. So that's been a challenge. We've shifted years multiple times in our strategy throughout this campaign. We've used text message services to reach the voters in fact. I'm sure some of our viewers are watching this because they got a text this afternoon and to your second question about You know Dealing with the the covert nineteen pandemic. Look it's really hard to ask people for money in a campaign and it's especially difficult to ask people for money when you know that your friends and family your brothers and sisters in the Union. Everyone is on a shoestring budget waiting in line in their cars to get a box of food or not. Sure how they're going to pay their rent. When the moratorium is over and you know you brought up the the funds you know the diminishing funds in all all the states across the nation. This is something that we're going to have to think outside the box. We're going to have to work across the Aisle Progressives Establishment Democrats and dare I say it non-partisans and Republicans. Because let me tell you something. The United States of America I grew up and was taught that this is the greatest country in the world and I know a lot of people. Nowadays are disillusioned by that that saying that we were brought up with. However I will say this you know working with with You know people that get up dress up and show up every day. I can tell you that we are a strong community in our city in our state and across the federal government across this nation. And if we can print money if we can print money to go to war to drop bombs on little kids on other other parts the world if we can give big big bailout money to corporations and special interests if we can have this revolving door of casino money mining money going back and forth through candidates hands then we can print money we can find new lines new sources of revenue that will rebuild our society from the ground up. And I've been talking about this a lot on my live videos. Not only here on the campaign page but also on my personal page which I invite people to to like and follow and connect with me directly. You know I'm sure We'll put my phone number and contact info in the comments of this video. And here's the thing. We have a pivotal point in our history as human beings as a entire planet. We have a key opportunity here to re imagine and Co create a better world for all of us and that's what our campaign is all about getting a lot of support there in the chat right now. People are saying like what are our priorities other people or the prophets and it's a really good point And to the earlier question. I think that's another you know fair point that When we talk about these like draconian cuts that. We'RE GONNA end up having to do that. A. That are GONNA end up happening because we know the nature of you know. I'm in Florida. You're in Nevada. We know the nature of our state government we know the nature of of the federal government at the moment and It's hard to think about this but there are ways to raise money. There are ways that not everything has to be cut. It can be And should be in many cases You know it should be funded Think about things like education and healthcare as we're talking about their Gina I want to transition to you. Because Joe mentioned the makeup of the community Europe born and raised battle born Las Vegas And you were talking He he mentioned the makeup of that community and what they are and how strong they are and He invoked the concept of tourism which is obviously suffering right now so I wanted to talk to you. Yeah I was wondering now obviously like it's no secret that Nevada's dependent on tours tourism. It's our biggest industry here. what do you think like? It's high time. Obviously that we should bring other industries here How would you do that as an assembly man like attract new industries here absolutely and again great questions look gaming alone? CanNot Support our economy. We've learned that the hard way right year with this pandemic and step one as a Nevada state assemblymen. I will work hard to get more revenue contributions from the gaming industry. Now aside from that we have to really think about growing our economy in smart sustainable environmentally friendly ways and one organization. Excuse me one company that I believe we could be doing better and more private public partnerships with is Tesla. Tesla's right here in our backyard you know. One of our platform issues is improving on transportation. Okay and we can do that. With new technologies above and Beyond Light. Rail's look our county commissioners the Regional Transportation Department. They've been talking about and tossing the football around for years about a write. A light rail system that connects the airport to downtown and East Las Vegas to West Las Vegas. A lot of parts of our city have really been forgotten. The monorail was a corrupt disaster. It was a private public Agreement that did not connect to downtown. We could possibly build off of that. Another thing that I want to mention is as a realtor here in Nevada. I've learned a lot about different innovative ways that we can develop our our new construction our new projects. I'm a big proponent. And advocate of mixed use development when we have at the ground level businesses and then up above offices and apartments condos different size residential layouts. We can create a place where people can work. They can play and they can live and when we do that and starting with downtown starting with the edge of our district starting with our district right by the Convention Center and Unlv when we create villages where people can go to work can buy groceries can go to. School can participate in community events. We're going to see much more of a thriving small business economy and also we will reduce the addiction that we've been conditioned to have to fossil fuels not. Everybody needs to have a car in fact one thing. I've learned in this. Stay home order is that I really don't use my car. That much other than to do some showings for for my business and go to the grocery store you know. It's time that we think about you. Know more bike lanes more community gardens and again when it comes back to driving new business to Nevada. I think that when we when we build a more Amora diverse culture when we invest in our arts in our community. We're GONNA draw the greatest minds from around the world to add to the very very bright young voices that we have right here and I know we can do it. We can do at one day time when we all come together and again. That's what this campaign is all about all of us. There's another question I wanted to ask you. what do you think is the one issue that everyone regardless of their political party could agree agree on? That would an issue that would affect Nevada will again. I've got to beat the drum for Medicare for all believe it or not. You know the coke brothers Everybody has heard of the coke. Brothers if you pay attention to politics if not let me explain the very conservative fiscally conservative Republicans. And they have a huge think tank in when they studied Medicare for all on the national level. What they found was that it will save money for the corporations. Large and small are very small. Mom and pop shops. Don't have to worry about paying more into the system to cover their workers and again all of us. Regardless of Party or position or ideology we all could have a moral and ethical system that that covers us at half the cost that we're currently paying look. I've had Thanksgiving dinner with other realtors. That are my friends that are Republicans that support president trump. They couldn't be further down the scale. From what I believe in what I stand for however when we talk about healthcare as a right not a privilege when we talk about cutting the cost and how eliminating the middleman going after the pharmaceutical industry and bring our prescription drug prices down. They all agree. Believe it or not. They all agree. This is an issue. That far too long has been used by Establishment Democrats AAH Republicans alike to divide people up and it's time that we unite through a progressive Movement for a moral system that covers us all and we shouldn't have to go bankrupt over one little illness until you man that is a that is a Hobbyhorse of mine that those findings from from the the coke finance study and along with Some of the governmental You know budgetary explorations into the issue because infuriates me. That time after time they The the the the number on the left side of the COM- gets called out thirty four or thirty two trillion dollars. Thirty to two trillion dollars over ten. Years is what it's going to cost. That's how much your taxes are going to go up. But nobody wants to mention the fact that forty trillion it saves over forty trillion dollars. And I'm paraphrasing those numbers on need to double check myself to make sure that that's accurate but I'm not far off folks and I might be wrong by a little bit a trillion here trillion there. But I'm not that far off and infuriates me that those numbers are continually taken out of context of beat. Down the issue of Medicare for all Yeah Yeah Q. If I may add look I had an endorsement interview which was broadcast live on facebook from It was one of the local veterans organizations and they actually endorsed our campaign. One of the tough questions. They asked me about Medicare for all as well as a funding education in a stronger way. Supporting Pre K. For example and daycare for mothers are poor. Moms and dads that both have to go to work and have nowhere leave their kids To to be cared for and safely when this veterans group asked me. What are the exact numbers? How are we going to pay for these things? The simple answer is I'm not going to talk Baloney to you right. We have to look at the savings as well as the cost. So like Senator Bernie. Sanders talked about during the two thousand twenty as well as twenty sixteen elections. Look if if everyone had to pay just a little bit more but never had to have a bankruptcy never had to take out a payday loan on inspector bill out of nowhere. Aymen's road rules you know. We have to look at the entire the entirety of these programs and again. I know it's very ambitious. I want Fi free public transportation system. Where are working families can get to and from work without having to take a filthy dirty paper money and and Tokens and the buses? You know We want tuition free. public College and University. When we do that we're going to open doors to disenfranchise disproportionately affected groups like the black community so that people can compete on a level playing field and when we invest in our community. We're going to create so much diversity and there's so much strength you know I could beat the drum all day and night and tell you how you know. I'm a proud member of the LGBT community. I've been openly gay for as long as I've been out you know which has been many many many many years now okay. I ran for city council in two thousand seven. They wrote in one of the papers In LGBT magazine. Q Vegas said openly. Gay Community member runs for Council. You know I could check off all these boxes but the bottom line is when we check off these boxes we have to think about how we are more the same and not those things the the identities that separate us. And that's what I'm here for. You know to listen to the voters and NBA voice for the disenfranchised so we got a question to the chat. That is per that immediately grandma. Because we've got three three rebels on the on this call right now and I think it's an all rebel podcast which which up to you'll love to see it Lv rebel This question says That their interest. This questioner says that they're interested in your experience at Unlv what you would do to support the university. More and Did you ever participate in student government during your time at UNLV? And I'll just give a little caveat a little explanation for folks who maybe are not in Las Vegas right now Unlv when it comes to education. It's the game in town like you have to go to find a college the same size or larger. You have to drive eight hours to reno or however long it is. It's not like here in Florida where we've got. Um Fau You've got fau which is a huge college just thirty minutes away. It's a different setup of UNLV as a game in town allows people's lives are built around the college even though it's you know sort of pejoratively sometimes referred to as a commuter school you know it has a lot of culture and it has a lot of cultural relevance and resonance. It's inside of district. Sixteen so again. This question was asking you about your experience at UNLV. What can you do to support the university a bit more about your your time? There sure? Great Question I appreciate that those in the chat well first of all look in my personal and public life. I pride myself in being super authentic and transparent. So I'm GonNa just tell you all exactly what my college My five years of college was like okay. Get ready for this so my first semester. I had a lot of anxiety I had just come out of. Bishop Gorman High School which is a Roman Catholic College Prep School. I was very sheltered growing up. I never knew what it was like to To be you know in a public college setting and let's just be honest. Unlv's reputation for being a party. School is one hundred percent true so anyhow the first semester I took four classes and I failed all four classes basically. I was too stressed out. I didn't know how to manage my time. I didn't know what I was doing. I didn't know what I got myself into. And frankly I had a moment like so many others where I thought. Maybe college isn't for me. Maybe it's time to just jump. Right into a vocation and guess what? There's nothing wrong with that. However because like so many other young people at the time. I didn't know what I really wanted to be when I grow up so I thought you know it's probably important that I do get a college degree that I can. You know fall back on and so I pushed myself. I enrolled at C. S. N. Which at the time was Community College of Southern Nevada? And you know. At that time I felt more comfortable at the community college level. It was a little less expensive. It was about a half is expensive per credit and I excelled really really really quickly. I had a good time. I got socialized with people. I started taking classes. That interested may regardless of moving towards a degree I took acting classes. I took You know criminal justice classes because I was interested in maybe becoming a detective or something like that and then I ended up going back to. Unlv after a year of community college and ultimately graduated with my bachelor's in criminal justice with enough credits that I probably could have got a minor in sociology. Although I never filled out the paperwork but here's the bottom line in my time at. Unlv the answer is no. I was not involved with community. Excuse me the the College government the student government. I was on the opposite end of the spectrum. I was under the trees under the stairwells Smoking some good marijuana with my friends because I learned that it took the edge off for me it helped me to focus on studying it helped me with socialization you know. I'm diagnosed with ADHD. And I don't take pharmaceuticals no judgment for those that do but you know it. It can be difficult when when you have so much. Neuro diversity that the standardized education system just doesn't fit for you and you know I just want to segue that into our public school system. I one hundred percent support Finding new innovative ways to have individual individualized educational experiences for all of our kids. Because no no two kids are are built the same. And you know in a nutshell. That was my that was my time at UNLV. I graduated with just under a B. Average and You know I learned a lot in the school of hard knocks as a working class. Joe The last seventeen years and now I wanNA take all my experiences. All my diversity. You know I grew up in a restaurant owning family. You know I have my own small business now. You know I'm not a millionaire. I'm not a billionaire. I'm not independently wealthy. I'm struggling like a lot of people and I think that that's the kind of fresh well rounded experience that we can use in the Nevada state assembly. So let's Segue a little bit towards your your primary and what's what's going on there We you know you have a a a a popular person. Who's leaving the? Who's leaving the seat in district? Sixteen and you have a number of Opponents not gonNA bother to mention their names because they wanna be on the show they can spend twenty years being progressive and build up their Bona Fides and then come asked me to be on the show. And they're welcome to do it but they don't fit that bill right now but you do so for the listeners out there draw distinction between you and the other people who are running for the seat. What sets you apart? You've done a pretty good job so far but if you can't sustain quickly like what what sets you apart. What makes you a different candidate? Sure well for one. Nothing that I've ever earned in my life was just handed to me okay. I had a great childhood. My family did very well however I had a paper out when I was a little kid. I had to work hard. That's why I joined the Union. That's why I decided to work hard with my hands with my physical body with my labor you know could have easily got into government. Many many years ago you know rub shoulders rubbed elbows with all the right people and that just never really resonated with me okay. I grew up. I was bullied acted very flamboyant as a kid the other kids the bullies just like how a dog can smell fear. They could just smell something different about me and they called me all sorts of names that I won't repeat here today and I've been through some really really challenging difficult and traumatic events growing up and You know I'm not saying that. The other candidates haven't had their their challenges or their difficulties. But again I've been on the ground running for a long time and All My businesses are right here in Nevada Which is you know my stage work and my real estate business and You know I'm not looking to to further my career by just shaking all the right hands and cut in you know taking all the right paychecks. Okay I've got a long history in the community. Anybody that knows what myself my mom Gail Sacco and others associated with us have done. I always speak truth to power. I take chances I'm authentic again. I'm the only candidate in this race. That even has a platform you know. I'm I'm I'm in it to win it and we can't do it alone and that's why we're here doing this virtual town hall. That's why were engaging with voters every single day in fact earlier. Today I personally delivered thirty surgical Surgical masks that That are you know of a high quality Nicole these days. That's like that's like you know. Trading gold these days actually one of one of the people I gave the mass to. They texted me back after I left them on the door and they got them. They said you know you. You left to gold bricks at my front door and I and you know this isn't meant to pat myself on the back. I'm just saying that you know some people can talk. Some people can act and it's unfortunate that the establishment sometimes they They ignore or make fun of people that are from the grassroots community. The activists that have been authentic like myself that have been transparent and And taking chances to To improve our society. And you know I've got nothing specifically bad to say about the other Democrats in this race. You know In fact I I know I was going to save this till the end of the show. But I'll just tell you right now for our listeners that are watching We've reached out my campaign myself personally. Emailed the other three Democrats in the race and we very cordially respectfully invite them to a candidate debate. This Sunday made third. We have a Fox five former Fox five reporter that is Signed on to moderate. So it'll be nice and fair and I really just want the voters to get a shot at seeing what we're all made of and may the best person win that's great. You don't really get that level of engagement on a lot of times. This level of races like a lot of a lot of times. somebody in the chat actually mentioned in earlier. That often people don't even people living in these districts don't even know who their elected. Representatives are allotted time. So but Jean let me let me knock cut you short. I know that you had a question I wanted to ask you. Joe What is the number one? Issue your most passionate about well. You're really passionate guy and it's probably hard to pick but if you were gonNA pick one what would it be? Yeah well I think we've talked enough In this show about Medicare for all of course that's number one point however let's take this opportunity to talk a little about little bit about affordable housing. Okay and that's really besides the marijuana activism that I did in college and through the years working in the industry as a consultant I think it's also important that I mentioned you know the work that I've done with our our neighbors that happen to not have a stable long-term housing okay and I have an idea for affordable housing for a moral and ethical minimum standard of housing that would completely eliminate homelessness in the entire state of Nevada. Now I'm not reinventing the wheel we. We've studied a program that they have in the State of Utah just next door to us. In the State of Utah. They created a tiny home village. Where and these by the way are not luxurious. They're not mini mansions or anything like that. But they give a dignified place for people that have less that maybe have a mental health issues. Or they are our veterans or they are folks that Are just having a hard time getting getting stable jobs because let's face it. There's not a great job for everyone throughout society from end to end so Utah created this tiny home village. Where for a cost at right about seventeen thousand dollars per year? They can house people year round a. Let me. Just put that seventeen thousand dollar price tag in perspective. I've spoken to homeless folks on the streets of Las Vegas right here in district. Sixteen that have been arrested for nonviolent crimes. Such as sleeping on the sidewalk What are the in our parks? Vegas Las Vegas I would say maybe along with Orlando and a few other cities but Las Vegas. I love the city to death. I lived for eight years one of the cruelest most like unforgiving places to be homeless generally the cruelest and most unforgiving places to be down on your luck to mess up in life. Yeah Yeah Q. Great Point you know like we have these massive Casino Hotel developments. We look at all these empty hotel rooms and just a few weeks ago. The city thought it was a good idea to draw lines and arnold lot on. We're GONNA have the homeless people. This is a disgrace. We are a world wide embarrassment and we can do better Las Vegas. We can do better. Nevada and I have a plan to do that. I just finished up what I was saying about the cost of talk to homeless people that have been arrested up to one hundred times in a year arrested for sleeping on a on a on a bus bench arrested for. Falling Asleep and and being in a park after hours and what happens is federal and state tax dollars upwards to a thousand dollars. A night puts these people in jail three nights. At a time they get released on their own recognizance which means they. They see a judge on a video screen and they get let loose back onto the streets with no help with no direction and our jails and prisons are being used not only as a emergency housing shelter but also as an emergency mental health facility. One of my best friends that lives right around the corner from me was the director of one of our mental health hospitals for six years. She told me so many stories. About how a homeless folks will walk out into traffic. And in some cases it is determined that they are actually pretending or exaggerating their mental state to be considered suicidal or a risk to themselves or others so that they can get in a hospital for three nights on a legal two thousand holds. And we've got to do something about this. We have the resources we have the will. We just have to elect candidates that are going to boldly pushed for these ideas and gather the coalition support to make. It really happened so tell us a little bit about this place where you've lived for Twenty Five Years District Sixteen. It includes like you said a big chunk of the Strip Scott McCarron International Airport. One of the biggest airports busiest airports in the world. Unlv I think that in that area as somebody again that lifted biggest for eight years. I think that sometimes people forget that there are residents there that there are people who live there. They forget that. Yeah Yeah you know citizens in this they just think of it as just a big playground but Tell us about district sixteen and like what is the key or critical issues facing it You know sure from what we've already talked about. Yes so most of Assembly district sixteen is considered midtown or central. Las Vegas Again for those. That don't know our district encompasses from Charleston all the way to warm springs from fifteen and including all Voss Vegas Strip as well as far to the east as Eastern. These districts are like puzzle pieces now to your point about Las Vegas being Let's just be honest. Las Vegas is very transient town. There are some people that have been born and raised here and lived in one house for their entire life. But that really is the exception and not the rule even myself look. I lived for fifteen years. I owned my home on South Eighth Street right down the street from the stratosphere you know about a five ten minute bicycle ride to the Las Vegas Convention Center. I sold my home a few years ago and when the market was doing really great I decided to cash out my home and invest in myself and do some projects a passion projects. I rented a Condo on Maryland. Parkway by Flamingo you know Right around Maleski Family Park and you know I saw night after night looking out my window. Tense going up and people sleeping there you know using the barbecue grills to have bonfires to keep warm at night and again. I'm not saying that that's right. It's just that people don't have any place to go. And then you know when my mom got very sick a couple years ago with lung cancer after being a cigarette smoker for fifty years Eventually you know I decided to move in with my mom and Dad to help my dad care for my mom and go through that grief process. You know the the grief that comes before the passing and the grief that comes after the passing and And it was just a last month that I decided to move from From where my dad lives in John S. Park to the Las Vegas Country Club and look I don't have an extravagant place here. It's very nice. I'm very blessed. Don't get me wrong But I have a nice small condo that I'm renting here and the reason why I bring this up again. Because of authenticity and transparency. I've lived in different areas. I've lived with the rich. I've lived with the working poor. I've lived with the middle class and you know in fact over the years. I've taken the buses. I've been without a car before I've been on unemployment multiple times over the years as as a stagehand when when our industry goes up and down and this entire time over the span of twenty five years I have always had my residents right here in district sixteen and I can tell you without naming names that there are other candidates that will move into a district just thirty days before an election and they have no idea what the landscape the lay of the land is and again the establishment the dirty politics. It's very very tricky. And I'm just glad we`ve. We've recruit a lot of great volunteers. We've made phone calls. We've Dropped literature with people and we've gotten so many individual contributions. I dare to say. We've probably got more individual contributions than any other candidate in the race. And I'm very proud of that that we've built together again. It's not about me. It's about all of us and District Sixteen is very working class very diverse and connects all of Las Vegas these carpetbaggers. You talk about them. They've never they've never stumbled out of double down at three in the morning. They don't know they don't know what the district Gina. I know you had a question that you wanted to ask. You have some really bold ideas and have them published on your website. Which is Great? Because I haven't seen any of the other candidates with their platform on our website. But you'd mentioned a fee free public transportation. Can you tell us that would look like absolutely look Plenty of times. When I was without a car I worked. You know. Twenty twenty two twenty three hour shifts setting up for big shows like the Clinton electronic show You know home. Builders all these big industries and it's people like us working class people that keep this city alive. You know we've seen when all these casinos closed. Our economy has all but crumbled and when I talk about a fee free public transportation system. I'm talking about being being ethical. Being dignified treating are working class or middle class families with the respect that they deserve. Okay look you know. It gets to be a hundred twenty plus degrees in the summertime. I've never met a person that said. I love taking the bus every day. And that's not a dig on our transportation system. There's lots of places where we can improve. We do have some great things about our system. Okay you know the seniors and and people that are That are less fortunate. You know that. Go through nonprofits and special programs to get bus tokens. That's a great start but you know within the age of the corona virus. We have to really read. Think a lot of small businesses that are still open are doing credit card only in there doing that for a reason because he handling all this cash money is spreading disease. And it's just. It's just outrageous that in a city that can build casinos. That can build. The you know a Luxor. The EXCALIBUR THE STRATOSPHERE. If we can envision it. We can make it happen. Look at the stadium all the public tax dollars at and and the room tax Money through the through the tourism that has made this thing happened practically overnight if we can do all of that if we can go to endless war if we can create nonprofits where CEOS have were directors. Have three hundred thousand dollar salaries. If we can do so much with this money that serves the one percent that serves our CEO's of of gaming and mining then we can certainly come up with with the resources and the new streams of revenue to support working families. You know one thing that I haven't really talked about on our website and I really think that this is something that that I wanna talk about more in the weeks to come. And after the primary when when we're in the general election okay we could even provide wi fi for the whole city. It's high time that we rethink our entire fabric of society and start building systems that make sense for all of us. It's just common sense yet. Yeah what about climate change? Nevada's you know. Obviously it's getting hotter and hotter here. Just read a really disturbing article last week. About how hard it's going to continue to get What are some ways that we could mitigate that here absolutely? I think that we really have to re look at our solar power system here. We need to think about ways that people can buy in as a community. Okay when I owned my home and in my day to day real estate business I see the contracts with these different solar power companies and unless you have a big chunk of change to buy your system you're going to be leasing it and for some people it's just cost prohibitive you know. There's a reason why our apartment complexes and our CONDO projects and our new developments are not incorporating solar power because entry to that economy. The entry to that industry is not affordable just like with the marijuana cannabis industry. Okay we should be letting all of our prisoners out today. Not Tomorrow if they've committed a nonviolent offense because of cannabis they should be let out yesterday. And you shouldn't have to be a millionaire or be a millionaire billionaire club to get a license for a dispensary. So whether we're talking about solar or cannabis both these industries need to be opened up in a smart way that lets the average. Joe Get in on the game the black community and are Hispanic community. They should be the owners of these dispensaries. These condos and apartments Siegel suites. They've done great for themselves. Why don't they have solar power? Why don't they have solar roofs on on all of all of the businesses small and large we have more sunlight here than anywhere else. Virtually and it it. It doesn't make sense because we have too many special interests in our state assembly in our government at large and we really have to start making these systems once again worked for everyday people. I have another question. Europe proud gay man and you've been out and proud for a while And Las Vegas has always been pretty. Lgbtq plus friendly What are something you think That you bring as a gay man that would help build that community here and help you rupture. Yeah well first of all I WANNA say. My Hat's off to our governor Steve Lack and our democratic legislators because we got two key pieces of legislation passed and signed in two thousand nineteen. One was the the Senate bill. That prohibits gay panic defence. What that means is let's say You know you're part of the LGBTQ community you come out of a club at two o'clock in the morning and Everyone's drinking having a good time and you You bump elbows with someone like the young man that years ago Years ago at Planet Hollywood when it was The Aladdin this young man young gay man. He bumped elbows with with a straight person. A very homophobic heterosexual person in the bathroom bumped elbows on the way out of the bathroom. This young man who had done some modelling previous attack was beaten to a pulp and And and in so many of these examples you know The the criminal offender gets off easy. And what this gay panic defense Ban has done is what it means. Is THAT IF If someone beats you up or God forbid kills you and it's motivated by discrimination against your sexual preference or identity. Then they can no longer use that as a defense because prior to that ban Someone could Could do a heinous crime and then say you know I was just. I was really in a panic because I thought that they were hitting on me or I thought that they were GonNa hug me your kiss me or try to hold my hand and my hat's off to the legislature On passing that in two thousand nineteen we also had another key piece of legislation informing and HIV A modern HIV task force. And I think that's also important you know in in our community. We're seeing people get sick from these medications like true. Badeah were seeing a class action lawsuits. And you know. Nobody wants to get sick. One of my neighbors right down the street and Paradise Palms he contracted. Hiv Thirty years ago. And he's still alive and Kickin. In fact he contracted it because he took on a he was a participant in a hepatitis. Vaccine that at the time was experimental and then several years later he got a phone call from the local government. Saying hey you know We accidentally injected with live H. I. v. So you might WanNa come in and get tested. You know another thing I want to mention is I talked about this earlier. In in the town hall here is that I was bullied relentlessly through grade school and high school and I think that that experience has made me the man that I am today. Which is why I speak truth to power which is why I stand up to the bullies and and you know throw down so to speak in a nonviolent peaceful protests way you know using our voices and as our next assemblyman. That's what I WANNA do. I want to you know Take down these bullies and elevate the voices of young people and stand up for our trans community. One more example. I WANNA give you know. I have a friend you know a constituent. Actually he's not a constituent technically. He's right outside my district right outside our district. He lives in downtown. Las Vegas worked for a major company that I won't mention right now Because I didn't get his permission I don't want to You know 'cause you don't WanNa be exactly but let me just say. I talked with a longtime resident of Nevada. That told me that they lost their job. After six years of of wonderful service to one of the bigger companies in downtown okay one of the companies. I'll give you all a hint. The invested over five hundred million dollars in the redevelopment of Las Vegas our downtown area and this person lost their job because they were falsely reported to hr and it was a hit job because this person is a proud gay man. Look we've come a long way in the community in society and and we've still got a long way to go on the federal level. We've got to pass the Equality Act. We have got to have a world that is safe for all of us. And that's what I WANNA do. That's what I bring to the table as a member of the LGBTQ plus community. Let me just say that story? Let me just let me just shea that story's a pile of crap does I don't WanNa drop anymore. Sorry you got an over to talk about Yeah look you know like every situation is different Again you know The details are in the fabric. But the point of the story is that Discrimination exists in housing in jobs in healthcare. And it's it's time the time is now to act. We can't just keep doing the same old same all so we want. We want me ego but we want to get. We want to get your thoughts on one last question and I want is that Your mother Gail Sacco was as the review. Journal called her a fierce advocate for the homeless. She spent her a big chunk of her life. Being of service trying to help people she was somebody that everybody knew in Las Vegas and sadly you and Las Vegas lost her last year. A huge loss for for the valley. What did you learn about people and service from watching her during your life? Yeah well one thing that really stands out about growing up with my mom and seeing the Sometimes perceived to be aggressive stance that she's taken against the mayor. House governor's our city council for example One thing that comes to mind is the phrase what is popular is not always right and what is right is not always popular and let me tell you that if my mom were with. Us alive today she would. She wouldn't literally do this but she would joke about throwing a pie at Mayor Carolyn Goodman for her recent comments about using Las Vegas as a test for what could happen. Look nobody wants. The city opened more than I do. We don't have unlimited money to stay closed. The the numbers of those that have unfortunately died from this virus are very. Let's be honest very small. Compared to how big of a population we are. I've got to give credit where credit is due. And you know this may cost me a couple of votes. But I'm just GONNA lay it out in a very transparent and authentic way. We've got to find a balanced approach to opening our states from coast to coast because being on pause is unfairly hurting. Our most poor are most vulnerable. People we've got to do it responsibly. Again we've got to re imagine a better world for all of us and I know that together we can accomplish that it just takes people standing up and taking chances and and not being afraid to speak truth to power okay and this should not be a partisan issue about opening up. Unfortunately it's gotten pretty dirty turned into. It's yeah it really has. And it's become just like a full throttle on one end versus full-throttle on on the other end and there there has not been a lot of room for nuance and one last thing. On the corona virus and opening up it is imperative that are working people whether they're labor organized or not. All of our working people have got to be healthy and happy when we return to work. So we've got some tough decisions to make our governor. Our Democratic governor has crossed the the aisle and worked with Very Conservative gaming casino executives like Steve Muren of MGM and And we've got some really really powerful business interests that are at the helm of the ship when it comes to the cove nineteen task force and. We really need to look at the whole picture when we're talking about reopening where's the money flowing and who's benefiting and and how can we keep our community safe and also let people make a living so? I WANNA bring a very balanced approach and a very stable hand steady hand to the discussion and we should really be listening to our community members. And you know our small business. People are workers as we move forward and get back to work. His name is Joe. Sacco you can learn more about him at vote. Joe SACCO DOT COM. Follow this page where you're watching this video right now. Is His facebook page Get involved with his campaign? He's again. It's a assembly district sixteen in the Nevada assembly. Joe Thanks for coming number growth. Thank you very much appreciate everybody and thank you for my thank you for my pinch hitting guest host the love. Yeah Dana you're a rockstar. Not Knowing where to put my is like the same way so to the camera but whatever. Well we're keeping our eyes forward and and we're all in this together. Appreciate Your Support Joe. Sacco. Unlv go fight win yes rebels.

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Victory Over Mariah Day

The Kirk Minihane Show

2:38:07 hr | 3 months ago

Victory Over Mariah Day

"So the war is over over where we at. I guess well I think the two generals have fucking killed him. Harry carried themselves. There's some cheese with their second but I want some poll last night. I suppose I heard I defeated Mariah Carey much. Some poll definitive Internet popularity contest. Thousands of thousands of votes tens of thousands tens of thousands of votes nearly in the truth thousands votes and I came on. What's the what's the WHO's better than who just better in life is better more popular? The Internet was rendering final judgment on the talent popularity. The kindness courage get some key endorsements. We picked up the win right. That's how we do it. That's how is now accusing you of buying votes. While I mean I in stoop to the level of Dan cats and dig suckers like. I don't know I did happen. I only know I stayed out of the purposely. Thought it was better to let the process play out I notice and Mariah to her credit also stayed out. She did the Class Act. She took Defeat like a vacant like a winner. Yeah she's probably busy. You know botching some lip sync version of something or more college interface server coming up he Saudi Arabia performances with slave blood money on her hands as absolute wretched disgusting. Despicable human being. Who is now now? You know kneel before me and in feed me Smith's cheese in the finest wines because I am the king and she is nothing you hear me you Mariah Carey stands out there. Keep Calling Steve. I don't care back. Yeah you suck. She socks she couldn't. She's not eight pimple on the fanny of Whitney Houston. That's what I would say or Aretha. Please give me a break Diana Ross please please. I mean I mean come on. I mean they could go mike instead of me is doing some of their tactics that Steve Merely reached that you wanna come on the show and they said not only to WanNa come on the show. I'm going to call the authorities full record in it. You have drugs in your type. Somebody does that. I must an intern. Justin over to your house this morning to start your car for you. Bring it on that say to you lambs. Our labs are lames meek. What did they say about lambs? Yeah there meek. It's it's it's it's in like a lamb lying Alec a lamp pussies Mariah Carey fans are pathetic benefits. Mike Fifty whatever. She's the most successful female artist of all time. I use you turn artists very very lightly. There are two year old's finger painting. We're better artists and Mariah Carey a horrendous singer. I would never work with her again. Never never again. I'll go solo. Never I work with somebody like that. Again total diva you know allegedly. I don't know this has manages a urine even people. I mean he's terrible lawsuits. That are going on. Who Know where she going to go next. North Korea missile horrendous. I believe in human rights. She doesn't that's the difference between the two of us. That's all I like. The you laid. You didn't say new this yesterday. We're very magnanimous anew. I knew one of the victims. Yes I want the electoral process to play out a mock by didn't way and I didn't endorse anybody respected. I just said listen. Vote for you but in view right carry are we sure Kim Jong Hoon is dead or alive at might be a body. We don't know fifty fifty so she's not the worst person alive. Right top-five okay. Top Five I mean that Saudi Arabia is that what goes on countries. Deplorable absolutely deplorable. Has she ever come out and denounced or disavowed? Saudi Arabia's practices regarding gays and she has a huge gay audience. As do I write? They guy calls to gay icons for gay rights for years to go back again and tell gay voting record we can go get the poster. Yes I'm very very gay rights gay stores to stand to say a father's most of these such one woman we're GONNA HAVE A. I didn't think victory would be the sweep. That's the nectar is delicious and I will drink from all day. You're joining well. I mean it's I mean you know. She's got twenty five million followers on twitter shadow ban. That like three thousand and as many as like you know Andy Email who will get to believe me. Do I have to save me to this? Oh God This asshole broke yesterday. I wasn't even enough man. You told me this all the time that we have to have this conversation. We'll get we'll get we'll get there. There's a lot to get through to really stay focused. There's a broken penis Henry once elsewhere. But congratulations to me into the fans. Great job into our great friend. Dan Cats integrate friend Dick sucker and all the people who reach out voted support and with power comes great responsibility and I play. Now as the leader of both Minna fans. And the Lamley. Yes which I am. Now I am the president of Lamley correct. You keep what you kill right. That's what I'm saying so Mariah Carey I disavow. She's out lamb. Find another singer now to celebrate. And I'll give you the name of one singer I like. I saw him parades around the kitchen. Five Hundred Times Matthew G Koran. He is now the only museum in the kitchen. And you'll backward facing me. Kind of both the Koran. Okay Gomez family as a store for meals for you to me if you cook and Mr You cook. A great now carries music my missing something he can say. This is a joke and I'm sure it was but there was a little part of him when he made this. That said let me. They'll push public on youtube piece when the reason you there's absolutely that was fine. Ever see anything wrong with that. That's a little funny. He was into it whenever hoping someone to get his wife to eat eggs. Do and Kate will you go. Here comes the put shoot to you. Because she's like a mail order bride or something. The treats her treats her like she's less than or something that I don't understand is like her papa or something like what the. Hell's going on. I'm sure they have a loving religion. Ninety Day fiance ninety gay fiancee. A cross good sport though Khuranna. He says that Song Bob. We play again. Did you hear this might be just a fit? I understand this. Yeah Great in the kitchen and your back was facing me. The Koran Goma say emily could become Ronald Gomez reason coronal too. You know helping so too scared to correct so he knows well however you wants to call. We love him and I read a bunch of people saying that the quantum week which I like that podcast five stars. We love those guys. I love a ban an Chris but so I don't know I mean look. It's your first time in this. The social media is actually turned you the heat a little hot too close. Lincoln was the son. So I mean you know. Look you got to put some sunscreen that you're GonNa get burned opposite Matt. Matt wisely took the strategy of responding to every single critical tweet credible. One thing you want to do is just give oxygen to whatever fire is burning you up. I'll crystals back onto a week. Oh I would assume get having net reaction when you're getting a Lotta Shit on twitter. I don't think this is the I. I'm surprised they weren't laughing at this and love and there's a lot of there's a lot of talk of Duxing in. I don't know I was married or no. Okay whatever. They may have a girl whatever he's just like. I don't really WANNA do this. I I I get it I get it but it's just it's funny to see A. Did you leave your twitter account? Well my partner said Adult Contemporary Music did we. And then that was it so. I hope he's back. I mean I hope it's not the end of the podcast. Oh this'll be great publicity for that. I know but some people can't handle it. I guess we've seen this on our on youtube show. Certain people cannot handle criticism. I will say that the criticism from the Lambley unlike anything we've ever pushes weird. Listen we're not done yet like we're in the middle of wars. Kevin Clancy asked me. Yesterday was on what those guys he said you know. Do you think you've lost? The war said no no no. We're not done yet. We're we're in the middle of it. We've lost a little bit but I feel like we rally rally the last twenty four hours. I think so. That was a big Yes now now. It's put the kill on. I would say it's on the finish these people off. This is very serious emrick. Harry's Music Sucks Shit. Oh man quotes send them out put them put them on their right. Carrie is MC Helen Lewis bicyc-. He's came see what's KFC KFC with came at KFC if you put up as well came as coats. Put it out at whoever? These people are right. Cares horrific horrendous musician in enjoys you know taking the money the blood money from the Saudi people and just throwing up in the air burning. Well people are dying starving to death. You know you might as well be an Australia. This point just disgraceful disgraceful. Human being a horrendous musician a stain on humanity plain simple in a loser I mean you could regain start some new polling in. There's only one poll that matters. It's over definitive done right. I am again K. Misquotes I am the leader of the families. That's me I'm the leader. There's not even saving dispute anymore. No I think they would turn themselves over to you. Remember a couple of years ago. Mariah Carey was lip synching that New Year's Eve show and she botched the completely yes we all Bruce springsteen there's never heard Kirkman never never I performed. I've a more intimate musical performance in in the last calendar year than than Reich Mara Fanta. How would you know saying right here? Could never pull it off matter. Wasco ever should be like. Oh where's my first of all? Never you think the Lambley Hall -Solutely Not Those Idiots shitheads this who cares. Fuck them they work for me now. Let's say if they're fans now they have to get used to getting talk down to the one their on youtube show. They can have one absolutely. I do think we're going to have room after today. Oh is that right well. Is that right Steve. That is right. Oh really yeah. I'm curious to hear this moment. A little sense of humor but I don't know if some of them do or even willing to come on today. I have one phone number. Okay let's call right now. I believe his name is Nathan. Oh God this guy's an Asshole isn't he? Well correct okay. We'll call them up. I think they should respect the number. No he did and so I. I don't know I have no idea if this is actually as these people are snakes out right. Wake jobs around noon. Everyone Hispanic my direct messages by these people person. You called mail. That has not been set up. Yes sir try again later. Told him around nine thirty. I'll try Nathan wonder I did. Give the land lead the The phone number for the show. So we'll see if up. Yeah we'll see they're very they're very concerned the Lambley paranoid people. They're very concerned with giving me their phone number. And how we're going to arrange way for them to be on the show without us being able to identify them because they played very odd to do appropriate for their leader but Well of course it's a shame you had to take on such a burden. No because I thought this originated with the Quantum Week. Fans going at the lamb. Well we had to evolve how we get we. We take care of our own. Yeah you know. It's Bruce Sang. We take care of our own. That's how we do it right. Caribou is lovely woman very attractive in the fine singer a reprehensible human being the world's full of them. I mean you know go to Saudi Arabia sometime to women's rights are they're throwing gay people at the top buildings. I think she just hasn't handled her fame. Well you know she has. She has something incumbent upon people. Famous to be moral leaders. And she's just Abbasi's. Is that rookie? What's next week? I appreciate that. I assume that's what you mean handled handle the way. Yeah of course. It's nice to say my car. Somebody will have my fame. I believe that the kid she's plucky. She's she's got a chance I'd like to relieve. I'd like to believe in the possibility for her to redeem herself as a moral leader. Like you have I dunno if she can aspire to your level of magnanimity. We'll find out. Is the young group PIRKER CROWDS? Rather we're we're we're we are at with seventeen and eighteen year olds. Seems like that's Kinda surprising. Well womanhood round seven for some of those fans but What was I going to so yeah so Worrell I mean? They'll they'll continue to battle back today. Let's just pretend we've one thing to still tilting at windmills. Right yeah get him. You've got these people you get some little stray waving his arms. I mean it's just the enemies are the enemies are in a month. Someone will say family still going after us. We'll have forgotten exactly lick the reach IOS and the merchants are all the same and they hate us for no reason. We have fun. We do our thing by the way we never start these wars ever right. That's true. Pick one pick award. I've started Apple not true. Not True Camera Ryan got started with Apple. I guess you were GonNa care about this. Four year olds. Don't care took a Cold War hot yet. But I've been started. You know so pick on. You could say that quantum week did start this. They're like are there like the the Syria start side. Sure I guess I guess they didn't like my cares there were there were some entangling alliances. They step everything were they said. It's true he's a shit like it. I don't care but it's ridiculous. I mean well forty five zero man not gonNA listen to that music. Have a penis listening to that magic. Hey a big one too. You hear that we're all man. Yes Moss I mean really. What with the essay. It's always a possible by ten times a singer. She is kidding me. I mean this is the I'll say this. I hate this woman to carry. Could not carry when the marks Jock real is a singer could not or an artist and absolutely prising after will also this Linda marks. She showed up that day. At least I care. She had that same condition. No CH another showed up. It would've had their the people putting rose petals behind her in her own fragrance in the air and carrying there and all that bullshit from what I've seen it was supposed to be worshipped. That was just together. Certainly I would say that. Linda is also more ethnical ethical businesswoman than Mariah. In my experience yesterday I think she faked that cygnus or whatever real must but whatever she blew a man she could have been. She could have had the whole world mark. Yes Anna EUBOEA. The theme song for the show. She playing it. She played the Wilbur. Theatre. He's probably wish we should play the Wilbur theatre. This opens up again. Yeah not and closer. She screwed I mean. Nursing homes are business problems. Pay Half the show. She may not be well. Let's let's hold off be tried to be conciliatory here toward the toward the Lambley here was trying to get everyone together before I get too worked up to think of how we can bridge this and have them be allies Maybe too late now. Let's just wait. Mariah sang deal. We try to do that I I. Can't I can't work with somebody? Who's worked at the the great? I just can't do I understand. I think they just need to start listening to the show and embrace you and find somebody somebody to follow who gives and gives and gives and just doesn't sit in their high tower and just like passively demand to be worshiped true I did see was that real or just one of our guys fucking around where they said like I actually. Kinda liked the show where people started to say like. I must've enjoyed her. There was a little bit of that little bit of that. That's nice. Oh see how that goes. What ELSE WE GOT Steve? I mean I don't know you know. It was a huge Newsday. Yesterday there were other new stories going on other than the Lambley minute was. Yes jeez I don't know if you want to go to You know there's lots of US political news. Some of the stories have been falling. Also internal stuff going on the second so I mean you know I. I only saw the two clips with by the way again. I did say caraibes Zingo. Megan Kelly you called it perfectly. That's a no-brainer. That's a safe landing spot you know but it's also just a huge indictment of the network news source. I mean they all never want never have ron and now you can go on Youtube and get your message out. And it'll be seen by more people are watching fucking evening news. Like if you're David Meer you've gotta be shitting your pants. Nobody about this could have could have been. I'm never asked. He doesn't want to be known. I look at first of all of us I remember. We're talking about that. The one that she did where she talked about the bombshell moving now has a million and a half years. So I mean people are GonNa Watch these things so I mean people watch Terry thing. I watched the two cuts yesterday. She seemed fine. She seemed totally believable. Megan Kelly his robotic is always. I mean by the time it was you know. I have no reason not to believe her. Joe Biden problems are only getting bigger well more the more the more. She talks likeable and ignore this. I don't think that matters at this point because one of the biggest the biggest news network right now is Fox and CNN is just a network that reports on what. Fox's doing in a critical way I guess but then MSNBC is just a ticket conspiracy weeks since Biden by morning. Joe Week ago correct. Yeah who? Who's the big national voice? It's called him on him to resign in the Democratic Party. I I don't think there are any of the Democrat Party Bruni for in the New York Times. There was one voice but I mean she's not a big national I'm just saying in in the left wing. Intelligentsia everybody now. They've all gotten together. Warren Pelosi all of them. They got their talking point. They believe yeah probably going to resign at this boat. But there's never win either was GonNa Win. Anyway all you are you going to need is to take a why he's GonNa lose though take his entertainment and cut it up with Tara Reid and turn it into a thirty second Ad Sean. And then and then you can also put over every congressman senator who came out and said. I don't tar read. Put them at the end of their and and you can get them out of the congress as well. Maybe it's going to be devastating for their credibility. Maybe I guess I mean I suppose but I think people hate trump so much that they're gonNa vote for by Yahoo. It'll be hard to ignore completely. How is trump house trump? Any will huckabee'll craft to this. He's been accused by twenty. He just do it. He's he's got other stuff to talk about. I think in the polling They've done this week. Shows that independence actually believed Tara. Read over Joe Biden and it's going to affect their vote like the MSNBC watchers. They'RE NOT GONNA change their mind the trumpeters they're not gonNA change their mind. The people love trump market a change of mind. They're fighting over. Zero resigned now who Biden all the of course. He's not game something. Be saying the the fight right now is over the the the ten percent in the middle who haven't yet decided in these for them. These are eat. Accusations are a big thing anything worse than you said. It was unearth last night. The comment pregnant in the workflows wildly horrific. I mean do you have that first of all you botched the line. I mean this this is you know this is. I think we now see what thumb is so disgusting I could tell I only a A Red snapper member of the Steve Robinson Patriotic Work. So that would say Jesus six seconds of Infamy right here Steve which by Mariah Carey people responding to good equal rights in the workplace. Having as soon as they can be equal work as soon as the were. Sorry we will have the whole Da. So you're saying your argument is because they take time off. I really don't think there was an argument. I think I was trolling. Talk sued the argument or no. No I don't remember the argument. You disavow state. Yeah disadvantaged disavow disavow. I'm pretty sure I was just trying to get under Tom. Skin Robin so women should be paid the same as men. They should be paid their market value. Yeah I agree but I'm saying one is just as good as a man that the same job she of course and I think that they take maternity leave. Maybe once they start to think that they should be punished for taking maternity leave. I think paternity and maternity leave should be available. So this guy coming around now volved no but I mean I think that the I think I do. Think that the pay gap a myth. Well it deal technical just by the way they measure it. Well I think it's the probably the pay gap now and they do. It is times of change. Amount of the huge salaries are still these really old white guys from thirty or forty years ago. Where now in charge of these companies? I think if a man or woman entered job at the same time today GonNa pay the same wrong. I hope I'm I hope I'm right. It also doesn't take into account Life decisions that people freely make like if a if a woman freely chooses to spend four years raising her children priority right now that's different but the data any analysis doesn't take that into consideration percent numbers because they take into account teachers who want to women. Age Woman doesn't do this any more women obviously take off. Oh know those five or six a month when they're going through their their periods. Well exactly right and not only got factor and then you know there's also there's also sit. There sent home to the hospital to the rest. And then come back. And then they can be good workers again. There's also the dangerousness gap between employment. I mean men are like take like ninety percent. More jobs with hazard pay than women are more likely to die on the job. That's I suppose that's true but I mean I bet you that's changed slightly not years as quickly as peyton changing. It's probably slow but I mean I haven't seen a huge trend of women entering the underwater welding and construction industry coal mining. No I think I think it's rooted in in Women's preferences and I think it's sexist to say that they're Just because a woman aren't mining coal. There's some patriarchy stopping them from taking dangerous jobs angry. Steve gets about CD ever changing. We'll get him around. He's on Rt. Oh I disavow. The women should have to go home during their monthly or no. Well it's the same. It's a smell you call it entre. Dangerous does Florence flow for you. It depends I suppose it depends on how you got are domino's are there. Bears around Steve's now women should be able to work even then that's what I say that's how that's how open minded I am. I mean not like even if they don't WanNa wear tampons I think whatever they WANNA do he's Christ God anyway. So here's Tara Reid's which one replaying So we'll play. The first one leaked out yesterday. I have to say I I I was kind of a snooze. The tape polygraphs a better one. Okay but the first one is essentially she just basically I will play. 'cause it's like the the I t's that they put on. I think Megan Kelly does a good job of kind of leaking out these to generate a lot of buzz around or interviews. Let's talk about what he said because he went on TV last Friday. Yeah and said first of all. It never happened period report. This how did not happen. Keep did say that in his view. Accusers should start off with the presumption that they're telling the truth. Do you think he's afforded you that presumption hold on now hold on. I mean it's hold on. It's kind of a leading question like aesthetic. Well if Biden really thinks he's innocent. Why would he afford her? The same as some random person. Yes he would know if he if he didn't do it what you're guilty. I mean come on be honest. He wasn't an eyewitness not anymore with digital penetrations. It's called correct remembered anymore. That's a you think you remember anything from nineteen ninety-three probably not like hundred Biden's graduation now. Komo here remember certain. Odd things like you remembers that you want road in a blue truck or such works. Our tweeting in two thousand eleven about how great China was and how they're rising China will be great for the Steve Stunning. Actually how the the some of his surrogates with the Checks know that our history. It's have been saying really thought things about me and to me on social media He has an himself but there is a measure of hypocrisy with the campaign. Saying it's safe. It's not been safe. You know all my social media's been hacked all my personal information has been dragged through every person Vietnamese carry voice grammar next landlord. Whatever it is has been able to have a platform rather than me Talking about things that have nothing to do with nineteen ninety-three like even the whole thing with being called a Russian agent interests that Lens Grub adding schedule because they thought I was being a traitor to America is. Yeah so is the rest can released today or I don't know what the schedule is. I was following some meteoroid that that have talked with Kelly and they don't know exactly when it's coming out so it's part of this kind of building. Suspense Friday seems like a bad day. Does seem even know where I guess. It doesn't matter they'll probably release Saturday at seven. You think. Yeah I think every time the same at this point Saturday. Seven time watch on Youtube. Well it might be nothing anyway. I know well reached out for some people. Some people to straight of turn me down in the third deleted his account. So the first Andy Mayo and met Khurana really know WHO's schedule? Right now. I don't know so I had already scheduled a new guy. Who's a consultant okay? I figured I wanted some of the heavy hitters around just in case Jerry's consultant. That's a handsome fan. Oh I've heard that yeah. It was seen them. Yeah heard of Hertel all right. So you have him lined up. Well yes but then I was thinking maybe instead if if I can't get any of the big guns on I was thinking of maybe doing a gopher Gary type show where anyone can join me okay. But I'm not one hundred percent serious. We'll see that's right now basic okay. No ideas where we're at. Well I mean there's a million fans out there. I'm sure some of the family but you know I thought about that too. I thought about just having those outgoing I think. Lambley is is the plural for the entire group. Ramle lamb is for the individual members of the lamp. I thought about having few lambs. So you would get you have the harvey. I called Lamley. Yeah you would get a lamb lamb on but almost Davis lamb lamb lambley. You call the lab. No he might sounds of the Lambeth. Maybe I don't know. So here's so we'll get that we'll get into second. So here's Tara Discussing. Whether or not she'll take a polygraph right. I think she did very well in this answer. Do you believe we should believe all women? I believe in the survivors that have come forward like Blasi fort and the other ones have come forward. I I do stand with them. I think that there needs to be a conversation rather than Hashtag. Are you in favor of the conversation? I mean does Joe Biden get due process. Does he get the chance to vet these claims and defend himself as that okay? I think he's been doing that right. He's had a chance for more platforms than I have. If I can just go back for one second to have lousy for yes some of those who supported her but now have found a reason not to support you say well she was under oath. Would you go under oath? Absolutely they say will. She subjected herself to cross examination. Would you do that absolutely? They also point out that she took a polygraph controlled by someone on her team. Is that something you want to do? I'm not a criminal. Joe Biden. Should take the polygraph. What kind of precedent does that set for survivors? She says she sent you to says you would take one if he took one. That's that's a hard answer for around. Jake I mean they're you know not effective necessarily but take it would a polygraph work on a guy who remember yesterday. It's a good question. I mean he could say no immune. It does even have a pulse. It's a good question but he would remain. I'm certain he if something like that happened I would imagine he still remembers unless unless wouldn't blackout. The entire was putting his hands on staffers. Left and many many many many staffers. And you already know. You're already seeing this impulse in the New York Times everything. Yeah I believe. Tari rebound still gonNA vote for him. Anyway. I gotta believe that. There's some staffers who are like. Yeah you know. Joe Biden was kind of cruel to me but we gotta get rid of trump. Yeah but if one I mean you know one more had helped tarried a lot want you saw you saw came out now about the the divorce documents from Nineteen ninety-six in the San Luis Obispo Court. Yes I saw the that her ex husband say he was told. Yes told that she was about harassment. That he wouldn't she is assaulted. That's silly I will say. The extreme left the Su Su. O'donnell's you just embarrassing himself. Semaj Souza's tweeting articles from a month ago. That are like revisiting. Our EADS allegations. Well you know Su. There's some new information is warning that you might address way and they don't WanNa hear this is way more evidence with read than there was for Ford. Way more more `save I'm not GonNa say it didn't happen. It did happen. You're saying from an evidence perspective in. I'm I'm middle of the road. I don't I don't I have no use for trump or biden or cavanaugh. I don't care about any of them. It's fucking just plain simple cut and dry. If you look at it even close you have to admit that it'd be more fun for us. If president trump was around for another four years absolutely but I mean but far show if he's if he's not sauce if Joe Biden was president in was losing his mind as president would be okay to plus Steve would play. Those favorite present was the Steve What'd you say? The quote was this morning. Trump was one on Fox and friends and they were like will you make a covert nineteen rapid tests available to the Biden campaign? He was like Oh. Yeah absolutely. 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I don't know I don't know exactly how they found a password on your account. Yeah if you do if you reset password it pops up and it says send code this cell in it puts the last two your cell phone number and they could use those last two digits to check against publicly available phone numbers associated with your name. Fantastic Christ I wonder why they stop after an hour that seems week. Will they think they every every single number that they called from started with two? Oh seven so I think what they did was they got a robocall. Yeah but I mean. Hey jokes on them. Because there's a setting on your iphone where you can just forward calls at aren't near your contactless right to voicemail. So I just turn that on and never got rang joke. Joke joke is on that. I mean it's not like they're playing checkers chess baby but as far as I'm always say this Zip I've I've always said remind me a lot of Bobby Fisher along the way ending very similar to. What was Bobby Fisher now? Chester chess player. Okay Yeah Yeah. I'm a lot like Bobby Fisher. You understand the joker. No chess raving anti-semite celebrating nine eleven. A lunatic I disavow my favorite interviews interviews. Ever is Jeremy Shelby unbelievable shitting on them father's sake snake. But that's what happens. I battle this as well as a genius. When you're that's smart. I don't think your brain just snaps. Oh the smart. He played just play. Chess moves like old and fifty people at the same time. Beat THEM SO SMART. St would say had already smarty once he did well. Listen I I we joke with families but I really hope that we come to appoint a piece with them. I don't think I would. I mean really. What did they that math boat? Don't even get it after today. They're gonNA be mad at what comes out of K. Misquotes how often well they did. I mean they called Mariah Mariah her fan stupid so my question is are. Does they disagree? Does this hit Mariah's radar she so Aloof Annetta fans that she just never know scarcely fifty million followers twitter twenty twenty one or twenty. Two minutes that concern. The magic goes after US though. Thinks she doesn't keep up with what's going on and off a teen nick cannon all the way we my. Guy. I'm not sure what. The story is great rap. Battler tremendous guy town so we Kelly Martin and see if she can book Mariah for us or Nick Cannon on the regular. She called in on the regular region. I'd feeling Moore is probably GONNA call when we opened up the phone. I guess that's probably true. So what does he? Is he talking about getting rid of shows on their youtube? Why I mean it's not knowing the answer for forty four Ryan floated a little graphic with a suggestion that some of the lower performing shows should be perched. I Dunno started. He started a conversation. I'm of the camp that I know. I WanNa keep all these shows on. I don't know what the big deal I don't think there's no technological imperative to get rid of them because it's not like we've limitation is no even advocating for you. WanNa get rid of some of these shows. I think we could clean up the network. I think that you know there's some of them. Honestly it's going to clean up itself like stocks and stuff you know. The guy gets two hundred fifty views. He does a good job stocks. Yeah but I'm just saying I think he's just going to stop doing a show. Maybe maybe he doesn't get enough attention. So the natural attrition on Youtube a bunch of edits just goes originalist with the averages. Yes that makes the most sense the show that has the most average views the Robertson report. Of course yes yes. I was surprised by that because I forgot it exists. The most toll of US overall is making the in advance. But she's been around longer. I'm just saying it's it's a solid performer. Thank you life. A parody. Two episodes another duchess. Yes men in teller in fourth. Does that include the foreign views your question go for Giri? Channel Zero Great thinkers trash talk exceed revise mental as drop the MIC. No one's listening. Gee Minivans others manage to midnight right there just ahead of the midterms show now. Let's sit on the sponsors folks. There's the floor is yours. That's Tim Canton show about prank call. Oh that's a relatively new. Okay Yoji minivans. They're doing what everyone's doing folk cares. Visit Matter of Eight Hundred Twelve. People watching her to visit really matter. I don't think I guess the only thing would be coming up a couple episodes. You'll be one hundred thousand total viewers for your show all right. It's one hundred thousand people. Yes I saw. Only concern would be that if You subscribe to the network you get too many notifications. I guess I've so what APP doesn't say that you know. The first thing you see is the purpose is twenty. Times says the stocks and stuff but doesn't even mean if so if you've never heard of the show I know but what's the odds of that happening. Well the discover a lot of new content. To what are the odds of somebody say? Oh boy I Kirk Rancho show. Oh I'm GonNa go to page. Oh it stocks and stuff. I'm never listened to the PODCAST. I mean that's that's a lot of work I mean that's never that's never gonNA if happens gives a shit really. Want me worse than trying to grow the audience and discover younger. People are discovering a live podcast. Is there on Youtube? And listen to other podcasts. I stumbled upon them. I mean do you want to. Do you? Want the forward face of the KIRKMAN network to be the intern show. No but if they have the most recent episode on the Youtube Channel. So what No. It's not if they if they go there. They go there and if the Algorithm Starts Surveys. They say that's the show for this program. It's not this program Yeah but because we are not putting up phil episodes then. Let's just do me talking on youtube different stuff than with nobody else on. I think people would like okay. I don't want to do that. I like this better. It's more fun right. It's way more interesting for us. I agree there's not just keep doing what we're going. I mean we're we're we're going to. I don't know what the and we can get rid of one show if you want. I mean it's if you want to choose one Steve. I suppose you can rant. Yeah me. Here's why they put a bunch of names and a half pick out all right. I'll do it right now. Go ahead what was mentors. Wait a minute Australian Brian Ritchie. Oh I've heard this Jeffer- this line was he. What does the so matters? The show last night couldn't up now. First mentors was on with male. We'll we'll get there and just starting to beginning now. No we'll start where I start. So he was. He had to show last night in. It's not up now know what happened before to it. This morning I got a. I got a text from Justin who is his producer. Saying that Mentors repeated same things that he said during the Mayo interview which we flagged and got rid of silencing free speech I just see these tweets. I did see that. So okay okay. That's why he took it down. Yes all right. Well whatever I mean I I we talked. I didn't have neither one of us have particular big deal big problems with. He said because of who he said that about yes. So here's what happened. I'm willing if you WANNA take. Let's go behind the scenes here because matters of course the people semi direct messages yesterday Mayo. Who said like five after after I I should know better than to do that. Because it's GonNa take the classic Kirkman silence I mean you know. It's it's he lives in the dream get him in the second him. I'm getting really having no useful anymore. so mentors went on Mayo show. We could play it was it was playing. We have the audio we sent me too. Yeah Yeah Yeah here so here he is on us on May Mayo Sharon. He's calling the censorship which I suppose technically I I don't know technically he's right but I'm you know so I mean come on. I mean he says I'll read you his message. He says Before you here before he played Steve Oh you only have to gave him the lead three days ago you you shit on the Chicago guys for doing. This isn't even. I mean this is just so this is not. He can say whatever he wants about me. You could say that he wants to what the show. That's the this is a real life won't play the sound. I mean by the way the guy who says it's about wouldn't care no that's up but that's not the point you send me a text of but yeah. I know I'm scrolling. Try and find. That can't find my messages with now. Who should be most angry? Mail is the one who blew the whistle on them? Yeah the the the episode was taped and even Mayo nail flag to annul snow. That's good that's a good move by mail. Sure I mean I guess. If you're in the censorship got through it wasn't from knowns doesn't that fucking show no one ever got to that point which side you stand on. Mayday J. K. Obese Lane also and I know he's sponsor but he's also fan cameron from Stri tri state running not enough. You know he's been doing these kind of feeding on the Youtube Channel. I have not watched them. You'd have miss much but he did one with Erica. Dany where she at the end had to be big to let off the the defeating because What's his nine Cameron thought? It was his big chance to talk to the head of Boston. And it was painful to watch PINEVILLE PRODUCING BY STATE ROBINSON NOT TO CUT IT OFF. But eventually Eric is like. I have to go to a meeting. Have Two guys Your cameras on my nickel head of the white fail on its own. I don't think it's a big deal Cameron's in on the joke actually enjoy it. The problem is now we're told us if we ever called here whenever which. She's which is happened to do it. Just sets a precedent. Where other youtubers who I think are that smart necessarily then think. Oh we can kind of make fun of these and not all of them are in on the joke like that or and then it becomes problematic and then we have to deal with shit or then it becomes a thing on twitter where out of context people start saying shit like that about sponsors. It's just yeah it's just an and I mean honestly that's not that's not censorship censorship and has nothing to do with free speech. If this fucking Australian Brian Ritchie. Oh wants to go start his own youtube channel. Podcast you talk shit about our advertisers all day. Not these had advertisers. Any of his own podcast. But you think he talks advertisers on those if he had thinking not of course not so. That's not again. That's that's just again. The this is a business. This is business what you can say. Whatever you want about me you could say whatever you want Steve. I suppose although Steve has some things emissions with he knows he knows he could shit on the show. He's shits on the show all the time he shouldn't show Alaska joked because he's on twice this week. But you can't knock the advertisers and Cameron. Because he's a nice guy in the big finish you'll probably gonNA social media today and say oh. I thought that was funny and mentors away at the flag. No that's not the point. The point is you can't do that because then you have somebody else on some podcasts. Making fun of some other sponsor who doesn't think it's funny then it goes up the Barstool and it becomes a situation then that becomes affects business in the next show. It's not it's not even I mean that's stupid. Mike actually made the point. We just went through this with K Marco in the Chicago on that and said three days ago. That's not even and again like I think mentors seems to think he's part of like the world where he can make like. I can make fun of camera. Maybe like that because it's me they're the rules are different. Of course it's my show and he knows when I do that. I'm kidding around I. I wouldn't do it no well. He'll bring up. He'll probably bring stuff. We talked about yesterday that Roman or whatever where he would say like. Oh Kirk did this. But I can't do this right but it me. It's my show and I. It's surprising that a guy who's listening since he is he's just trying to merchants. No but I'm saying WHO's listening to all the merchants stuff and been like. Oh well why let me? Should I be? But he's doing this be purposes like I'm the guy who's not afraid to do it and it's just so phoney. He is so tired he is really funny that he's a fan of yours yet. He's using the exact same Bob Emergencies. She's really not though and he's GonNa be one of these guys three months now will hate me more than anybody. I've had these people used to love me at the old station. You see these guys on twitter now really professionally hate me. The impotent rage of little people. Were funny but I mean like he will be that guy three months and it's going to be it gets tired now. I can't make it through an episode of these on now. I find such a bore us the tune out now it drip just zero. He's got. He's got in his reaction. That will be more outrageous. I would say just try and be yourself. You know is he. Is He actually gone? Say Oh fireable fell. No you Steve. Or He's not going to live anymore can't trust him. How do you do minutes till midnight? If you're going to have to figure that out we take calls can take calls. Though taking calls from ten metres gets to live now he broke that trust. Look Steve. I'll let you handle it all right to handle the punch that and you know he can he can. He can do as many shows as you want. Because we won't censor him but he he's not allowed to be live if he's going to trust him. I mean if his definition of censorship is. You can't dump on advertisers. Then he's correct. I mean if that's his definition it's foolish. Go start his own channel. He can have two horse drivers candy and he can say whatever and my way. I wish him well now supply. If you had a good show at say it'd be a good show and re tweeted but I mean like it doesn't work. He's not me doesn't work. You don't get to do everything in again. He may say that censorship if that's his definition it's pretty loose because again. I don't know anyone else who has a guy like that? Go Off on our show. Every wants all the time. I think it's funny but you can't. I mean he knows that too because he sent me a message. Like hope you're okay. With Steve Censoring and free speech. This is not free speech. Alex Jones doesn't Shit on his sponsors again and again in brain reach. You run into the boss Tattletale and on. Stevo coming in between him and Andy Mail I mean Holy Shit by way his real issue should be Mayo. Stabbed him in the back we we would never have even seen O. T. S. T. S. Tampon stained male right in the back but I get. Why may have did the right thing to do? Actually so do I. But he's still stabbed in the back. I tell you I trust Mayo a whole lot more than I trust mentors. He's a little rat though that's true. He's a little rap but if he's if he's written to me though there's a troll here you may I mean but I mean he has a again business. I mean I know. He's got that little shit cafe but I mean if you had some radio station. He's through some money to some radio station there. And they took dumps on his. I mean come on. GimMe a break and again. He's right like that criticism is like he wasn't even he was making fun of tristate running. Which company wasn't really make was sort of doing the joking? I actually get what he's trying to. Do you know what I mean. He's trying to be calm. He wasn't being an Asshole but the hassle of Cameron was more sensitive in salt. Fuck you is. Don't really don't have reason to. Maybe that would set them off and then we lose a great client great sponsor for the Five K. We love tristate running. If I'm wearing my sweater today I got my shoes on. I love that company and I love Cameron. He's Super Bowl. I'm like matters wasn't traveled at all yet cameron's all over the place cameras a much bigger fan of much better fan. He does hate the show. Mayo matters fucking hate the show but but my point is so mentors did it to me. Okay really Indivi- talked to him. I like I don't really have a problem with it but you know I get it. It's a sponsor but again three levels down. Then you have some other idiots on one of these shows. Say something that gets in. Somebody's ear gets in somebody's ear and then we're losing business when right now we're building up a nice little business here. I'm interested in that that's our like that's that's like actual people's living and there's also a snake move to an Australian. Brian Radio dead because he knew from Andy Mayo that we didn't want that on Youtube Channel waited until it was eleven o'clock it was live whereas legal where you'll get some rest before our next show. He slinked away into the shadows and tried to do we disagree he gets a fifteen minute taped. Show some calls. He wants next week. Yeah it's got to be taped fair. I is not going to be live for the guy and he's got to be. I want to try running underneath it. 'cause they're running dot com running the entire show. I also our our. He has to run the whole time if he stops this. Whoever's doing the show has stopped and he is that fair Mike yes but I suspect he might say if I know my Guy Mentors. You might say fuck you not doing. That's gone that's fine. I would say he's no live show for the foreseeable future however I'm entertaining. The Pasha had no life in their basket. You're right I'm entertaining the possibility that at some point in the future if he wants to dress up like a little Christmas Elf Maybe we'll let that go live. Oh for sure. Yeah if he wants to be. Christmas season comes around. It'd be nice Australia self but those are the rules. I do matters to midnight. Taped tristate running underneath Justin produces it. He's running the whole time in place if he stops at all. Just impulsive plug. Okay there unfair fair fair fair punishment. Then we're done once again you've shown why you are the more just registering. I mean it's just letting this guy who shit on advertisers still to me. That's anti censorship and by the way for such so much we just play them. We're talking about his phone. Fuck was going after applying all the stuff that the pair to e I. I went through there so insulting. I was actually could be insulted by this idiot. It's unbelievable unbelievable. Favorite part was the live where he starts doing it. And just a knows. He's not supposed to and goes. I think there's a call coming in on. That might actually be worthless now. I've seen found out that there was a portion of my interview with Andy Mayor. That was centered. On Stave Robinson's direction always popular youtube network. Henny downloaded becoming an tacoma. Something where The you say something that's not popular. And it gets tight off Janelle over. I think that's a real concern. I want to go into that now. What I said Very concerned that it was censored I thought you know one of Cook's you know strongest moral your marriage number and I was just told. That couldn't calm. Who CARES IF I care of Mendoza? Sleeping sued times of their now. Maybe I forget. Who AREN'T THEY PACIFIC TIME? Mike yes sorry. That's Oh it's eleven twenty four. I have no problem calling him. Let me twenty four nine. Yes com scroll back to find the six one international code for offense to be interesting to see only responded. What's your take on this Mike? I under I mean it doesn't make I think mentors has gotten too much into what can I say that will piss people off like I think matters is generally like a pretty funny guy reasonable guy. I think he knows why you can't do that. Type of Shit. But now he has to be. I'm raging against the machine. I'M GONNA be just boy this man. I mean whether it's not really who just piggy enjoys the show and talks about Yeah so I'm just trying to calm google voice. International minutes on this the main Nazi calls you may not as great a registration reach you in the main Nazi but he also said that the file destroyed is can. I'll I'll tweet it out today. Fuck tough guy knows who with it? I think he might have covered up as found some way to cover up his phone number. So I don't have it. Maybe Jesus Christ Point Australian. Yeah right on the on the. Ut's reloads can't lose this guy. Fuck just those number director of TAC toe. The restaurant is this is an actual owner. No it's Kirk Hambur live today. We're trying to get the bottom of the situation. I hung up on him after. You said we're we're trying to get the ball. Whatever maybe we'll call back again sensors. We just played. It talked about everything. Well he's he's a sensitive pussy but Nathan from the Lambley. He's ready to go to a Lambley. Here Olaya Lamb. That was Attacking you personally was. Oh that Guy. It makes family pictures and stuff. This is Kirkman how you doing. Hello Nate on it. Hello Nathan so what? You'RE A is it. So Stephen are trying to figure out earlier is it. Lambley or lamb is the bees. Yeah I'm gonNA lamb lamb lamb. That's what I thought so. I got the right Nathan there. You Go So so you seems like you were part of this war between the the fans of Mariah Carey and the fans of my show right. Yeah that's all like the same thing as Cuba. Y'All his name while the same as what is quantum week. Yeah Yeah so explain to you Nathan. So the best best again so I I have a show. I have a podcast on bar right in. So within that podcast we have youtube channels and other stuff. What were some of our listeners? Have their own shows that quantum week show is two of my listeners? Macaroni and Chris. So they're the ones that play the sound of a how Mariah's music is stupid and all that stuff. So you're your first battle with them and then all my listeners. Got In the middle of US AS UPTON. Does that make some sense okay? So what is your reasoning? Just overall Will Yeah I mean I I is Lake. Now that it's a different day like it is pretty talented but so like where are you that devoted to like what is Mariah Carey mean to you? Why are you such like I think? Music's terrible whatever but you know but my thing is you. But here's the here's the thing though. Nate like a what what is it. What do you care if I don't like her music? I like Bruce Springsteen. If you didn't like Bruce Springsteen I wouldn't care I'd say great whatever. Good luck wow that's true but decides the naked is Nathan. Do you think that there's a level of insecurity amongst the Lambley because ultimately you know that Mariah Carey's music socks that's why you have to see Nathan Nathan. I disavow my producers saying that. That's not very nice Steve Nathan. What's okay you can first. What's your favorite Mariah Carey Song Ally Dino her. My it was my topic because I'm just saying what why. Why does she mean so much to the point you'd be going in again? My fans are very loyal obviously when the police night but Mariah's fans too so I wonder what what is it about her music for me. I Like I love Bruce Springsteen right and he connects to me as a kid and he's helped me through some tough times. Is that the same situation you've had with Mariah? She helped you through some tough times because you seem like a deep thinker. She somebody that you've got slow mentioning that to like when they said like you know it's for low. Iq people and stuff like it. Yeah well saying that. 'cause her music targeted fans which are mainly people color and gave people and women though it's like like including myself and so it's like will say that. I'm your which are you a gay or minority or both her. I'm both the okay. Okay well I mean listen you know. That's great so. I mean so as a kid who struggle with that. Maybe I don't know your story baby. She helps you get through that. Is that what you're saying? Yeah well that's very nice. I don't I don't have a problem with that. I think NATO. I think we're okay right you and I are. We're we're we're good world. Hold me stupid you are. I mean I mean very bright but that's okay. I mean neither minus. Sometimes I see plenty of stupid shit but all the time but you see you see like a nice enough guy. Here's lighting nate. And I was kidding around the breaking your balls while you being. I'm sure your bright guy like I think last night you got a little caught in the moment. A little overreacted. And I think you're sorry about it right. Yeah we pretty easy going to movie them. I was wasn't a terrible was if you like a terrible movie. I think she caesar's there that's why they're called glitter right. Glitter always go for like deserve. If you did you did she. Obviously she's a very very very big nine eleven what she play. What role nine. Eleven within the first inspired Saudi. So this money she's taken from Saudi Arabia dates. I'm just Nathan. I honestly don't even remember that to be believe you. I believe I believe I like it. I don't care and I like I can't help it I like you. I can't help it. I like this guy you. You're listening to the show where you're going to become you'RE GONNA become A. I'm trying to bridge. The lamb lies in the fans together. Because I think there's a there's a comedy you music. I Sang. I what I said yesterday. I love version of yesterday her album. That said okay. Sure wasn't invest stuff night that I don't know why you'd want it's so what is your level of interaction with the family of you if you met her before. No actually no. Yeah you can meet Kirkman easier anytime Nathan Nathan. Check out the PODCAST. I you and you and heard different and I like I would. I like her for different reasons stuff like New Zealand. Boring stuff is like this guy. We just did forty minutes on the fans understand a youtube channel. That is breaking down right. Now it's Okay Natives. All right you're okay. Where do you live Nathan? What part of the country? I'm in Texas okay. How you doing okay during the quarantine? Yeah okay you got a young fellow in your life or no no okay. I mean you could find there are there. Are there fans out there and I know there are a few in the Texas area? If you're looking I mean you know I'm I'm just saying we can make this happen. I could be your hero. Somebody once said Kate Ryan Probably. That's not true. They don't definitely some the Lakers. Look one macron a lot. Yeah the boat later. You've never criminal anywhere in any club me and you weren't turn Matt Carrano Nathan. We'll hang in there and I and I hope it doesn't continue be content because I think I think you're a good sport. I you know I think you're okay what I have to. What was that I? I'm doing what I have to do. What would what do you have to do? What do you have to do? Defendant is okay I suppose yeah okay so I hope this peace time because I think you're okay Nathan. Were good for the Matthews. I mean I can't speak for him down for is and then maybe you can apologize your fan. I can't just from the happy like you know. I think each individual should speak for themselves if they don't like Mariah Carey's music that's great if they like my great. What's your what's your issue. I would think about the like the hurtful stuff I that hold on for a second year. Big Steve reads some of these messages. That he got from these Mirai from these families Nathan. Very angry people. I this is music about love you hash it and I mean what what is Mariah Carey? Really telling you people she. She had some sort of dictator. I missed that. Mariah song worried that she says you should threaten to file false police reports in order to get the police to show up at someone's house and shoot. I mean eighth. What kind of crowd this. Jesus okay but At least demise. None of that. I'm just going to say that like I got I got I have no. I will say this if anybody said that I bet is I will tell you right now. That is shit that person's an asshole. I have no use for them. There's a lot of lambs out there with homophobic slurs. That's true too by the way Nathan. Well I will say most them are getting girls so will the girl I mean I but like gay thinks that it's not really a problem seriously. A few minutes to double standard. If anybody in my community said that to you about you that is shit. I will find out who they are. Now we'll have a conversation with them. I that's a promise. Okay okay all right buddy. You're welcome here anytime all right. It was nice talking while they enjoy the rest of your of your day. Okay goodbye lemonade. Reagan Gorbachev what a meeting. I can't I can't wait to put together the nate soundboard back to get back to the cold. Go forward today. Now you're crawling the background. That's cool nominate fan. Said that did they. Can You? Please don't tell me that. Will Piss me off all the regulars and all of the show last night or no oh might have been declared gay slurs. I saw coming from the family. Okay well I mean again. Disavow this about this about of the US by the way that death wish coffee can use the plastic juice death wish coffee dot com promo off all time before we started the show when I was pitching him on the job. We're going to go after these people. I'm going to bring them down a little a little over a year ago. Three okay asshole. Nathan. We've battled Nathan and mentors a little over a year eighty male and the second was right. You've you've lost a little over a year ago. I was in the East Room of the White House interviewing the commander in chief any less ridiculous guy on the great examples. God this key tweet out the interview. The lamley what's the takeaway from that interview I think we were on the righteous path. I think my first thing is there is a generational divide too. I think that they are they're nihilists. They're the kind of people who just like troll and say Shit Online and they have no shows boring thing He did we do boring but I would say the real takeaway was. I don't know what the Fuck Man Chris. We're talking about a student observers of humankind. Oh my goodness I mean. This is a guy a big fair. I mean he's doing this sitting around it's probably wife and kids and he's sitting here doing this all get get to work here. Nathan husband kids now think he's definitely gay. He said he was gay. I wonder those these kids. These days they go. He's there fluid guy can't even name his favorite Mariah. So that's an issue about people. Ask Bruce Song I do get although I don't say Your brother can name characters in his favorite movie. So maybe there's two though these maybe maybe blood we're We're GONNA WE'RE GONNA call here from Australia. No from who your life to tape on the Kirkman Show. Baked Torri entourage. I got you guys got. That would re hold on his death. Wish COFFEE DOT COM. Try Death wish coffee by the way you like him. I'm drinking right now. Literally drink you are okay. Good public get twice. The Caffeine. Might now know Promo Code Cake. Promo code takes is what I was trying to say. Shut up shut up Promo Code Kirk fifty percents off your entire purchase. Check it out now. I will say you are following. I just we just don't know what to say. We just had they ten minute. Conversation with one lamb lease Nathan from Texas who we battled. He's a big Mariah Carey Fan. So we just had the big. We just had it out I think about. I'm not sure I'm not sure what happened. So I'm I'm old baffler. I but thank you for your endorsement last night. Victory is is very very sweet is nice. It's nice to go. It's the good people women once in a while. You know. Yeah absolutely so I need it. We some back story here because here who is from my perspective. I was sitting in the office. Were doing some interviews He j Hubbard tweets as like we. We needs but Big Cats help right and I was like what is going on. Why Kirk in a poll against Mariah Carey? That has to be one of the last people. I would pick that you would be matched up against I saw. I retweeted it and then I went back and there was like thirty minutes left and it was fifty fifty and then I got personally offended and I was like Kirkman cannot lose Mariah Carey. Thank you right Kerry. Outside of the Christmas songs come on like it's not even Christmas so I'm just telling you take you do not want to get I am Leigh's it's dangerous. I'm telling you they're gonNA bring your whole operation. Down tweet was broadcast on. Kfc went to war with the Serbians. Right yes nothing on the nothing. Nothing who are these people? Well so what happened was it's very simple explained that I'll crystallize thirty seconds so we have all these shows on our youtube channel. One of them is a show called quantum week. It's a hosted by this Guy Matt and this Guy Chris I call them closet cases. Pena's head the two of them host the show and they criticize Mariah Carey. In somehow that got the Mariah Carey. Fancy probably do these endless searches and then the war began and then we jumped in the middle of it which led to the poll last night and discontinuing war. They play I mean. Steve redoubled big cat. The this this is what would you try to? We try to reach some of them on this how they respond. Go ahead Steve. So I got I got yesterday from a lamb who said that he was going to call the police and say that I had drugs in my home so that they would raid the place. Shoot me and then starting at ten thirty last night my phone started ringing every two to three minutes and did not stop ringing until around. Eleven thirty or midnight. Well I find this to be like I feel like these. Two groups deserve to be together. I'm trying to bridge just gather. I mean this is feels inevitable in the way. Wait so you're almost swatted last night. Correct yes it would have been incredible contents. What I wanted to I wanted to say more than anything is. I've always been the biggest mariah carey better. Yeah I love her so so much. He's fantastic. She totally wasn't Weird and loopy when she did that like Dick Clark new thing. Oh I've couple years ago. She was told his lucid as lucid as Chris as ever always be my baby my favorite song ever we belong together also my favorite song ever. I'm just reading these now. Are you giving a lot of credit for go? Saudi Arabia and taking that blood money. I thought that took a lot of courage. I think that was a really really nice thing to do. Hey listen we can't criticize that. Otherwise fifteen year old Harry. Minahan is going to have some. That's your wwe. Cast grab going in and putting on a little show for every you know. Oil Prints over. Those are Harry's favorite shows because there's no women wrestling is there is favourite once he's always happy he's like. I love to us once in Saudi Arabia Gasping. We could go. Us got maybe one day. We'll do we'll do a trip there so how matter the people that you wanted to stupid incense. They're claiming that we bought votes. Yes well I mean. The check did clear true. I guess you could say in a way. Yes you did quit. I'm leaving out. Sorry I'm leaving. A one. Big Part of the whole equation to is one of the guys who host quantum week is one of the guys who sings rights and things parody songs. Yes so they were debating of A. Who's a better musical artists? They were making fun of this guy and he wrote a song about the red sox called rape in so people were tweeting. It them in my carries people saying this is the guy who this is. A guy who was what was the exact quote rape is better than anything right carries ever done and there are mass reporting him and they're saying Minihan show and then how do you defended. How do you even have you even defend any of it but then? Chris deleted his account. Dan you in the magnitude one of our what of these guys to leave their accounts. Oh my God for this so when I saw the poll I was like. There's got to be hilarious. Ridiculous backstory to have Kirkman at hand matchup against variety Carey in opole. That like people are actually upset about and you guys disappoint. This is absolutely absurd. Exactly what I it was gonna you Working Right now I'm trying to install four three defense a big game at three o'clock Florida State So yeah I'm working on that. I had a bad defensive performance against Ucla on what we're working. Yeah is bad. Is there anything in this coaches past history? That's GONNA come out to hurt him in the future I want. I mean he paints every single recruit but about that and then know if there was anything else deeper. No that's going to be about it. I'm pretty sure he's got an alcohol problem. Sure I mean he's morbidly opie very. Don't talk you ask either. That's true. Probably had to pay off and some college coed some point. There's a lot of things. There's a reason why coach Doug keeps going from stop to stop after a year. You know the only stays in one place for a year before people catch on is what he's a Larry Brown. He's nomad yeah. You just keeps rolling on down the street and and eventually we'll find somewhere where we can win and then if we went national panel. I think what I'll end up doing or when corzine ends I'll just kill him off with a massive heart attack at the age and the best part is a fake grave and it'll be like nineteen ninety five to twenty twenty five years old so straight fifty pounds forty five years old that probably the big. We talk well. We talked to the Dan the phone. I we were talking about that last the last dance. I've told you caught up now. I was actually on with Yesterday I don't know if I talked to you about this the other day I do feel like krause is getting kind of bone on this one. I feel like he gets a bad rap. Okay so he deserves a bad rap and I hope I don't I don't really think so I I don't you know. Well here's the thing like there's no way like reinsdorf would not have he wasn't doing. This is a rogue operation. Reinsdorf signed off on all of it. You're absolutely right. Reinsdorf is an owner. Who looked into pretty much? Everything he had with the Bulls with Michael Jordan is loyal to a fault. I mean Kenny Williams. Who's like done very weird things and not a great guy still still has a job has stopped job. John Paxton has a job. He's sitting there. He's still hasn't been fired. So you're absolutely right. The jury rice without Jerry REINSDORF enabling Jerry Krause. None of this happened so it is you have to do go one step further like the owners really Cobo here but the problem with Jerry crosses he it. It's weird because he in a weird way if you took him and put him in today's Sports people would say that is brutal honesty on the fan base. There bike because he has never when Sam he was the sixers and he did the process when he was like. This is what we're going to do and people are like. Oh my God incredible. No one's ever in the front office. Just outright admitted their plan. The problem is you can't do that when you have Michael Jordan. And you're basically trying to end a dynasty before he he wants to keep playing in your like now screw that the other thing is ever keeps bringing up the points Jerry. Krause being dead does feel a little cheap that he can't defend us. Relax okay so I actually have the opposite opinion on it. I think it's actually a like a positive for Jerry Krause. He's not there to defend themselves. Because no Jerry Krause. He's the type of guy who will try to talk his way out of everything and make it only worse so he was trying to defend himself this documentary. He would come up actually worse than he does right. Now as the dead guy got made fun of by Scotty Pippin and Michael. I think he gets the people he's but he's a good general manager like He. I mean he built and I understand even draft Jordan but draft opinion the trade. For Pippen coach he hired Phil Jackson. He made the trade for Cartwright like he knew how to build a team around Jordan which is seemingly easy to do. It's actually not that easy to do. I think I I think he's actually under appreciated. Yeah it's just that he taught the way that he I just feel like they have kept going and it's weird to like. How do you let the best player in the world just like all right? I'm going to retire but I don't really want to retire because then it comes back to the wizard so you do better for Jordan. It's better that worked out better that way because if you'd stay nine was strike year right so they probably would. They WANNA ninety nine but by two thousand. You've the Lakers. Indiana was was right. There in the end in two thousand might have been better than the Bulls in two thousand lose that series in Jordan loses. He kinda you know. He wouldn't have just kept winning with the Bulls wait ended with the Bulls was perfect. That shopping. Talk. There's no better. There's literally a never happened. There's no better way. There's no better way to end your career. Actually I think it worked out perfectly for Jordan. Yeah no you are right that people. Kinda just forget the wizard years. But you are right that the The symmetry with the three and then the two year and a half off then three definitely helps you know you have like John. Elway type of going often the sunset going off a winner. Peyton manning like that that does it does affect people's legacy in the you see guys differently When they go up a champion even though again the wizard years I think so I think episode seven and eight are going to be less complimentary of dirt that we'll see interesting. Casey was saying yes they said when I was on there is some story coming back. I mean I mean how how I mean. He's like partially producing it. How what what's GonNa be in there? Well I think it's going to be more of the behind. I know I've heard that the Scott Burrell story line is going to get like. He was ruthless. And and I think the Steve Kerr Pond. I don't know I don't think they have footage of it but I think that will be big in the next two episodes base two or no. I mean He. I think it's Yeah Bay Four. We have Tim Grover his trainer. is going to be on Monday. Tnt and he was he was talking. He's they're going to feature some baseball talk and I just love Michael Jordan. The gamble I loved when he gave the excuse that he doesn't have a gambling problem because he's still he's still eating. His wife's can still eat. 'cause I've felt that speech I had lunch today. I don't have a gambling problem. I'm good. I'm obsessed by Jordan. The cigar smoker like is in his prime wager smoked twenty a day. Every time he was in the car with Ahmad Rashad going the game in the rain like two hours before game sky was unbelievable. What athlete you mentioned Michael Jordan Lebron. I mean Tom Brady Lebron James or Rinaldo or or you know Tiger Woods. Doing that was not nearly as bad as cigarettes. Then I guess I guess they aren't would be if you I`ve. I'm not a big cigar smoker metaphor for you here and it also makes you feel like yeah I mean. He was smoking them in that hotel room himself. After Games before Games amuse driving with Ahmad Rashad to a game. Yeah maybe it is. I I totally agree with you on that like. It's it's shocking. It'd be like how was this guy's the best athlete ever if he's focused like five a day or whatever it may be And he Yeah I mean it's gotTa be cool to be Michael Jordan and it couldn't come a better are you guys whereas the Kirkman ahead show team with the crowbars are like have you is it. Is it manmade. Was it a bio well? Yeah what's your take Nestea? I think the UH China was trying to experiment with stuff in that lab in Wuhan in the Corona virus got out. I don't think it was man made but I definitely think that there was some sloppy they were trying to catch up with the US Virology. They were sloppy about it and then they started to blame it on that wet market. In Wuhan they covered it up. They limited travel outside of Wuhan domestically but not internationally so they let it spread let it turned into a pandemic covered up while they bogarted personal protective equipment and other medical supplies. They're entirely culpa enough. Hold on we're on that. What do you make of the Tara? Tara Reid's interview with Megan Kelly? So you definitely don't have to take on this okay malfunction malfunction function not of the Terry stuff I have to be on. You have to read it. What are you what what was that? Oh it's like on minute. One Minute Clip. That's GONNA million views on twitter. Atari would be so much better off. She her last name though. Like the scene to still. I'm like wait like it's not her fault but I'm like you can't be Tara Reid. You have to change your either your first year last night. She spells it differently so at though even with Steve said that that was like ter. Oh my God. Maybe she's on a mission to become the biggest tar read. It could be true goal Steve. I'M GONNA do my of this weekend. I will look I will give you an answer. Bridal we coming to me for. I think both guys are terrible. Well you've got an invite to come on the Robbins report anytime okay. We'll talk about Louis and Joe Biden. Do I don't even know if he's going to have like they're going to talk to him up to a machine before the I don't think he has the brain capacity to get through the nights get. It's going to be but again I don't even know what the election's GonNa look like. I I have I have you have. You've got sources all over the place they're going. Nfl Seasons a major league baseball seasons. What are people telling you I think? Nfl definitely going to happen. Then they'll have three hour now. Yeah for definitely going to happen there whether there's fans that's a different story but it's definitely going to happen If you look at the schedule to they did a little sneaky thing where they the state of California the teams in California the niners. The rams the chargers. They've made the schedule. So that those two teams those three eighteen if California never opens up again which are just never opened up again. They could play their games in Dallas Arizona and Las Vegas. So it's like I think they're ready to go and I think I mean if we know anything about the NFL. Do they really care about the safety of the players? Know No god no no so post BOP for that million fans there. There's no way we can have seventy thousand people in place by September. Seem I guess going to happen. Why there's Word Zero Right now? I must I must say that. They should or shouldn't it just seems like people are afraid to. I mean my take on things seem to be a lot better math and I know in New York. It's getting better Massachusetts flattening. Getting smaller like if this keeps going. I don't know maybe two months from now it'll be pretty close to normal. I have no let's get. Let's get optimistic. I think will get to a point in September where there will be enough passing. There'll be an antibody testing where people can test all the time and one interview all of a sudden these a fucking expert on my way credit up to having cheap before he became a big panther. Strap you guys I I think I think the fact he went on there was probably a sign that he may have been batting. His is at celebrity. Also note that is now. He's now a fixture of some of the conspiracy theories. I mean you guys didn't didn't ask him about His ROLE IN THE VIRUSES O. Some there are some conspiracy theories there that you guys you guys kind took a pass on. Ooh I didn't see as you scheme you ever have like a moment. I would imagine every day in your life where you're like you just kind of take a step back like I cho- out. Where are these conspiracy people whose visit a conspiracy documentary circulating called plan? Oh Yeah Oh no. I'm not blaming part. I think is responsible for the big can have role in this. He may be part of the cover. I I think I don't know I mean. Did you have a piece of that document? Is it like Jordan so speed? You got this documentary. How was it a suggestion video? After you finish watching loose change I would say it's up the loose change variety but I'm saying there's there's a lot of people that left a lot of people on the right Hussein that Dr Franchi isn't on the up and up and you guys kind of give him a pass so you think you think that that Part of my take was they knew about the collaborative. They're part of the. I think that part of the aluminum breaking up. I think the big cat review show notes. And they're like hey. Should we ask about this? Nobody wanted to ask about inappropriate interesting interesting. That's interesting I would love when it's all over the I want you to come to New York City. I Never. I have never city New York City tomorrow. Good New York City tomorrow. Fuck I don't want to but I'm not in live your life in fear. You mask masking gloves. I wouldn't go to their even if there was a there wasn't a plague. Why go to New York? But I'm saying that they said if Erica's like you guys go is something going on demand at arches reach up. Say Hey we want you to do this we live like pussies for the rest of your life. You Damn Right. Let's get back it. I'm demanding it but you realize that. New York is completely flattened the curve. We're on the other side. If you took New York out of the data for the rest of the country it's still going up the rest of the country you realize of course if you took New York out of the whole equation it'd be like nine case. Whatever that's true also glossing over the fact that you were the original super spreader in Miami. That's no question about that. I remember you cough coughing and sneezing that we we've played sound that you hacking it up there at it so that feels like ten years ago but yes. I did make a lot of jokes yet saying. I think we've all had it on. I think we've all had that's what I said. Yeah Pedal Colt Right No. I don't think it's the common cold I it is. It's a new serious virus unleashed do see for doing a one. Eighty one eighty from yesterday but it is. It is killing people. I never said I never said. Flew flew flew. It is a new serious virus but I also believe that some of the restrictions are a little heavy handed. Yes go all right yeah I I agree with all that but either way I want to leave when you do come to New York at five ten years now. I want to sit down with you and I want you to play me like Steve Robinson Conspiracy kept me a twelve hour force. Where you're you just show me open up all the documents you tell me who who's JFK. Give me everything I'll just become a C Robinson. Whatever they call you Mr Mr Katz. This is going to get uncomfortable for you. We have a great conspiracy. We have a great versi show on our youtube channel on it with those guys. These guys believe every fucking wacky conspiracy. There is every single one all right. I'm import I mean for all right. We'll talk later all right. Thank you congrats again. Well I mean you can thank you for your contribution. I know in in wars. You never forget the people who serve at the you know like twenty thirty years from now our remember that you'll be my you're my brother in arms forever right at true we can always look back and remember the day that you defeated Mark Mariah Carey. Which many love. I love her work me too. Many men were lost that battle many many fans lost but some survived so when the wall was built like the one in. Dc for all the veterans of this war. You and I will go there and have a good cry in crack everywhere together. Steve Robinson swatted almost more of a warrior than the men who started the fight themselves. Well I mean you know you need you. Need another general there to step in once the want. Washington didn't do it all on thankfully not there. You go back to back calls. I expected to that too big stars with those two week officer. That goes and it'll be a fascinating. It'd be great if they did that just to like just for us if they didn't episode like that were already thinking about one day Nathan just hosting the show by with no not telling anybody about it and you but see the vans would find that funny and Gal deep. Then you're really people really this. I mean you really don't fly. I would do that. They're smarter than me they probably wouldn't. God bless them so mentors just tried to call back at the beginning. Yes how about these calls here before we might take some other kind of lineup. I've got this big cats in for the twenty third right so he said yes right. I forgot to ask him about budget. Social Media Influence Influencers on this Lineup here. They have That I picked we talked. Joe Maros name go borough Joe Borough. Who's Joe Mara? He's party today. Might create your call. Please try again. Positively familiar with his work. I of my I believe he started in the barstool world. Is that right okay? I was wondering if there was some connection. So that part might take podcast a chance. If you're gonNA opportunity for this one up today you calling against Eve Yeah. I'm trying to okay stranger. We've got a different type of voice mail. I just tried to calm on Google voice. I don't WanNA waste international minutes on matters. I hear you always podcast. Bertone left tape. Hello mentors it's Kirk. How you doing good how are you? I'm doing fine what it's midnight in Australia. Commitment we wake you up connections not great me. Okay apologize We we just went over the over the whole thing. I think you and I have different definition of what censorship is where why well because because because this sort of rule number one. I don't care what you're doing. You can't back on the on the advertisers sponsors and if you listen to the show where sort of doing this after we talked about. I've never really a problem individual. What you said about Cameron. That's fine. He gets it easing on the joke. My bigger issue is IF SOMEBODY NOT AS SMART. Is you or does this like you do? Whatever two or three youtube shows away makes a different sponsor who doesn't get as much cameron and then is a real shit storm. Then nobody wins. Does that make sense radiator there point of agreement then? I kind of like that rotate you know. Individual countries are big problem. Then anyone else out of which is you to. Would you like to Apologize Stephen? You're you're you really should be with any mail if we're really being honest about this. I am imitate me. He say with little to retype it out and you'll record that will be. I mean how my brain to so you bring coming to everybody here today. We just talked to a family. Talk Okay so you get so you get so comparing to entercom. I think is a little stiff. Is My opinion way pretty much more why I maybe get the judge because all I get your Jones absolutely I eat every day agreed agreed agreed and I said that if you go back we said that but my thing is then. I was talking about consistency. Then we do that and like I said then that somebody else then shits on some brand that might be national and we don't hear it and then it turns into something else. I just don't need that. You can say whatever you want about US shit on me. I let me all you want. I don't care about that but that that's that's that's what I would say you hearing you. You Trust me more than about about that. If that's what if that's what you need. Well well well. I also hear you'll hear later on. We have we have set rules for your next show. You may not like it. We'll have to listen to the show. Just GonNa go back to sleep mentors. We'll talk you later. I can. You always be that measured. We got in the middle of the night. Probably you know who knows Steve. And I've said my piece on Australian. Brian Radio Pretty quiet when he was on. I'm just saying know you know. Took a shot at you. He didn't respond. I don't I'm not going to dignify Australian Brian. Radio with a response to that Hammer the nickname and sticks. Well he mentioned that email. I mean Mike losing his cool on Social Media Shea cracking a little boy. I don't think so a little bit. Acknowledge the enemy like that. You're you're the enemy I assume as a Fr- I defend him. Friend friendly friend friendly with each side. He's my guys Mike and Mike and the minute regular. He turns you down for this weekend. He's hit second week in a row. Usually he's not a regular anymore. So wh what's our issue with him. Well he's just. I mean my only issue is that every he keeps demanding that I ask you what you think of me on the show. I think it's pretty clear every fucking day. I don't know how many times we need to have a fussell. Twelve month is here. If I didn't think you'd be gone. I mean we joke around you you would be gone and I've gotten to the point where I acknowledged that right I mean. How many times do let's get deep into the mind of gear? There's not a lot going on that realm that like the middle show. Hey Kirk how am I doing? Do they stop this show and will get a reaction? I'll say but but I did. We did this like two weeks ago. I have no I am no. That's what I'm saying. I think there's no interest in. It's not funny. It's not that interesting. So why am I gonNA keep doing? I think last summer didn't do forty five minutes on personnel reviews as part of a show back when we read their. I mean I think we do it pretty regularly. Yes I guess but yeah the so Mayo I mean yesterday. I guess I win kind. Kinda HARD. You thank no. I didn't think so. He does You know he tries to explain any says basically this. Hopefully when you're asking what is he thinking you guys will actually call me and ask me see. He wants Mike. Why and why are you afforded that privilege thing he wants he wants to be sitting? Where Mike Okay? What's GonNa Happen A in beat? I think I know how you're thinking. I have an opinion. You disagree with it now. As opposed to every other show on earth you actually have your own formed. I've given you to express your opinion about this topic. And he's dressed in the coastal betty who call. I call if you want we give a number every day or about both do it right now call in what we. I heard you talk about this crazy book and by the way. Here's the other thing. We kind of have fun the expensive at sometimes as well like it is stupid that you're putting up that book but it's not that big a deal like we're laughing. That's what that's the only reason I thought it was much more fun. To mock his fucking. He wouldn't go with them on. The MOMMIES GONNA die example. Imagine if Mike at the end of Mike the Minivans are at the end of Robinson reports stopped and said straight to camera and held up a book. And you're like this is why this why Kirk Makes Fun of her gives gives opportunities to somebody waiver. Presidents would say today on this quarter on twitter. Whatever it right if at the end of the show is like you know what George Peterson. Look is just. It's just it's already you know there's a try. He's to tell Robbins these other guys these other. I said Gary v Right I mean listen these rules. It's like stern with Marcy Turk. It was like you know what these six rules in. My life have really clean if I start Brady. I'm doing this this and this a much clear. I'm thinking much better doing it. You know to do this to make it'd be like is it fucking snapped. I mean you know. He wants to do that if it was up to me. Males showed me about that book. Hey Gang like we've had a lot of fundamental real for a few months these like he's he's explaining the way I'm like it's a fucking joke. You idiots we don't really care what you said it's you get it. He gets very worked up. And so at the end of the Mayo interviews like you know the interview is over and you had to come back like mentors. Just said he's like you know I I. I know the injuries over. This is really really. I have to say this. I think he had a couple of glasses of red wine and caught some feels. Thanks for sticking around but Kirk is doing is. He's trying to be like. Do I really think the Mayo is really suggesting that by doing a colon. I don't think he's a nicer not nicer to be. I think it was a joke. You say I wish he'd call me but fucking arrogant had let me call any male opinion. Fuck you you fucking idiot amazed. He couldn't do the show and then he goes. I assume this is because of my tweet and I was like. I just don't understand why you need me to address. And then he sent me like four pages and we can talk about it on the. It's fun to talk about when it doesn't need to be the serious fucking discussion about everything. Oh my God sky's the I mean. Just unbelievable he's the fucking crust on the stomach of a woman. Woke up after getting fucking come on can they before I mean really consensually but still you know it's nice that yet it's the walk of shame. Immune the ridiculous. This is a useless human being an offer. I may was biggest defender. I like to. I'm not like just say you know this whole I just hate the whole really presumptious like what you call me Emmy. Why why right fuck you have your say mentors like I like these guys. But you have your own network. Free speech would be like be saying to mentors if we're really being literal about lip free speech. Abebe like you can't have a youtube show anywhere but that's not even. You can't have a podcast anywhere. You can't say anything but you know what I'm saying. You advocating for the government to thank you. Listen why. Why is Andy Mayo? Allowed to say these things. Please make this stop. You'd be petitioning Charlie Baker to pass a law against any Mayo speaking publicly about all the people that are shit on me. Why don't you just give me a call I instead? Let's talk it out. Call Him in the show. And maybe that's a good point. Anyone who's ever said anything about me on twitter. Got My phone number. We can't ask this out. Jerk with guessing may was done before he's been critical of you before or no. Yes okay certainly. Let me give you a call. I have not got a call from tash it out. I mean Jesus these give me a give me a call. That's a problem. You get people taste though a little youtube. They think they're more than their nothing buddies. Don't forget your nothing I did say was my friend to be fair. So that's nothing. That's the definition of nothing more nothing mattie award hog is thrived off of that sort certainly as he certainly has. I open phones. It's wrap up this week with twenty six phone today. We're going to get to the Boston. Globe Waltari Steve Lineup. On the go we we you to ramp for little pool. So Mike your reaction to general. Flynn having the charges Draws by the Justice Department believe no collusion. They say after all that will the amazing thing is that when when he initially pled guilty. All of the left-wing media was like this is the end. This is the beginning of the remember. That Joe Joy Behar segment on the view when Ross from ABC. Brian Ross. He mistakenly reported that General Flynn was conspiring with the Russians during the campaign. Which would again been a great story. The stock market just absolutely tanks. Everyone thinks this is serious. News turns out. It's completely fraudulent fraudulent completely made up by Brian. Ross no surprise he made up that tees tea party shit about the Colorado theater shooter and it was long record making fake news Brian Ross. Nobody should have believed him in the first place but that was just one example of how the media handled the General Flynn. News originally was the biggest fucking the unraveling around time for Mike to step in obviously could have stepped over Stephen. Don't go with this bullshit politics. It's not bullshit politics. This is going to be a huge day at General Flynn is like the Nelson Mandela of the trump campaign. And he's going to be held up as an Avatar of how the entire Russia gate conspiracy was just a load a complete load of Shit. I can't wait for Cook Stock. I think it's a I think it's a it's a big moment and apparently there's more there's going to be more political news coming out later today. I ain't gonNA caused uproar. I don't care about that story. They don't care about enjoy our takes. I'm happy I've ever listen to the show. There have been happier. He's guilty as can be right. Steve No he's not the Justice Department. Didn't that's interesting interesting. Guy Pleaded guilty twice but did he not was that deep state conspiracy against him. Obama was involved. He was I like that. I missed that point the finger at Obama at this interesting they loaded up. They'll ended up seven seven. Four you're on Kirk fellows. How does it? What'S UP Yes I'm calling in. I've I've heard jd on the show lately Some might say I'm part of this conglomerate. You know I've heard his takes. I heard upbeat Heard you check Cheddar food inspector. I'll Straw got take on his music his legacy your friendship. Your new friendship with him to number Steve. I'm doing I'M A. I'm a familiar with his music. I'm sure he's a terrific. Talent terrific count. He's a friend that what you call him a French absolutely call. Yeah well I mean. We debate this early. I have a friend. But he's certainly amis a collaborator. I'm happy he's part of the show. Legitimate certainly got him on. Was that eight out Disney. He's got some controversial takes on Disney. Good if you guys you know it was pretty testy. Oh he's he the well known Ju it's it's established until he did mention that the other. Jay Z yes. See that mentioned on the show. Oh that's right. Yeah I don't remember anything and Walt Disney. You know he's antisemitic. So that's That's some billionaires with a big rivalry by this. Call Your Hello Hello. It's young Mama. What did he? What are the chances weird? Hello what's up fuck up? What's up? Jason I'm up in the bitch up where I'm sorry to hear about fans on the line and I'm like Shit. This fucking knows we talking about now mean well. Yeah what's up? It's amazing that you heard. Excuse kick hearing so. I'm still critical of my man. Had Him he? She don't talk like any. I've met before you talking to a bunch of gentiles like brothers but they ain't. I mean I know Kirk I love y'all but it's Kinda weird thank you Jason. You like Adam you only got into the Ju- Adam but I think it's a little fake really Jewish. I'm not sure I say this. But I've seen him these semi the I. I mean I don't know what's the park. An here's what specifically. Why don't you tell us in detail what you think about them? Looks Jewish. Let me just tell you just one place where we draw a dollar bill that bad shit his that any real man. No you're right you're right. I'm sorry that's that's an old joke based on this stereotype that I am doing to mock the previously established stereotype being satirical in nature. Of course you're right is an accountant. You a math a satire. Jc ECU hanging without. What'S ASK NO MORE JOE? Jay Z. We'll Taylor who's up next are they. Load UP Steve. Hey loaded up. Hello Hello Yourself. If we're getting some rating done by the Lambley. No speak up lambis. We talked to. When you're the Nathan I say call the Dark Coffee. A dog you goon. That's true. Hello five up alone boy. What does this on Patterns Very Strange Jay z? He's questioning your Jewishness did I did I did. I miss him call it again. Larry David see my penis. I mean I'm as Jewish as they come Kirk Jewish. I look last night. I look thank you. You just defend I saw. I hate to say I mean diving. The stereotypes but if you said to me what what religious group is jumping belong to Jewish one. My first seven or eight. Guess I would say to that. Yes yes I mean what? What was it? The yarmulke that gave away was no. It was a particular now. You have a very dignified way about you. Sandy Koufax himself up well by the way it was amazing not even be doom last night. I mean they will never happen. I did not. It was just staring at me. It was very do something. Do something fun. The beverage will find on and without any hesitation. We got graded Irish. Goodbye of all has gone. What's his face? I was like I am out of here. Yeah well it's my turn away in on stuff. Who needs who needs it. How much longer go for you missed it. I left about twenty minutes later. It was still going Yeah you missed a great call that I made that. I actually wanted to run by you. Guys sure Kmart go right key is. He's he's pretentious. He's the UP. New spag knew the kind of guy who loves to dish it out and our Catholic way that is clear that he stole his mannerism from others. He's not able to take anything without losing his mind. He seems to conveniently disappear when mud needs to be slung. But he's there there to celebrate the victory. I see. This is going to make your universe less talented K. MARCO. Yeah less talented less Less talented more sensitive K. Mart and that's I mean be. Was there for the dog days before the Mike Carey. Actually seriously did tweet yesterday. He did Yeah No. Moh Is image me is. Here's the difference between the two. You can break image. Baseball's he might get worked up in on the joke. Kmart quite because not in on the joke. Just thinking barstool like it all well. Speaking of being on the joke Steve I hope I didn't embarrass you too much last night on on the episode matters. That'll never air. Yeah you'll have to forgive me. I don't watch Australian. Brian Ritchie content. Wing Radio's not yet. He's slippery Steve. Well I knew that. He That he was against the ropes when he seriously without any humor to ask me why would ever defend a well known antisemitic not unreasonable reasonable. Question a mental midget as well as the physical. Well person a little person to create the fire by. I'm ever having Australian. Brian reach you. You come up with that one. I did. Yeah it's just a lot of syllables in that. Yeah there's a deeper meaning okay. But I mean trump likes illiterate quick ones but some if you listen to these guy he came from the Howie Carr always have nickname as true. Just go go ask him. Why call him that? Come up with let him come up with a reason. Why he's any better than Bob. Murchison or Brian Regio. Wow US worst murchison. Probably as worst smelling breath. How about Ozzy Richie or something slightly ozzy reach? Yo? I like it makes me. It's it it works all right up. Sarah let's go. Let's REP is we. Hey Kirk I'm half Black Minna Fan. I just want to confirm your father's bill. Maas Dudley right correct My mother my mother's black. It's great I know in the conversation. Call me up later. Let's say I have a question for you. Sure yeah go ahead. As a fellow black man What are some of your favorite black movies? You know I don't really talk about my boys in the hood or Friday poison the theater. I remember seeing it. That's a good one. I'm a big Friday fan. I mean recounting like this coming to America count. Yeah I guess that would count say no. I mean that kind of movie. What's that so if you don't WanNa be removed I like shaft Hashtag around what else I like Apollo creed the character I like. Even these are white choices Surely have watched plenty of black pornography my life. I was in sight and sure yes absolutely. I don't know I I will tell you this. It prep school. I dated a woman of that persuasion very controversial at the time. Yes should've thrown that at the Globes face tried tried to get her to call you. Say Well I don't think that's listen. This very very early relationship. Young man was very very loving relationship. Nice Nice Woman Nice one okay. Well thanks that's all I got. This shows off the rails. I'm fucking Western mass junior school. Yes surprise based on population what you mean. North Hampton is a known for their Well I mean this this Young lady came from part of the country's kids would do yes. Yes from blue blood family royalty. Oh okay so make sense. It's true pretty pretty white out there. Oh yeah definitely is a change at all but not change almost thirty years now not in my lifetime. No UP Steve loaded up current. Hello they see two hours Eric Gerke. Yeah Hey this is a little Joe from Ann Arbor Michigan Club going. It's going fine. Joe Thank you. I need you to hook me up with blind Mike. Sure she's well. Listen to the ladyman offense. Well she's got competition though that while she's doing a We're going to do something. Youtube Channel with quarantine one second show. We'll let you tell you reasons why but we're going to do a Bachelorette and by mice groupies volunteer. But I think ten minute hands in a the fans rather. Jeez Harry looks like you might have been more promiscuous in college if there are ten minutes ten minutes fans in there with her. But we're get nice apartment we'll do. Here's Steve over weekend. Yep sounds good enough room right to get one of those rapid cova nineteen. Let's we're done with everything once everything's done. Although Casey Smith yesterday volunteered Scott's she was asked by me if she could or by Kevin she can pick any fan base to bill the Bachelorette with if we do the Bachelorette she I guess. Season two. Yeah we have to do it. We'd have to do a Bachelorette and bachelor right. Oh for sure yeah. I don't know who the it'll be much tougher to get ten women to compel. You never know Stephen Providence. I could see that you wouldn't watch that of course from providence available. I don't know that's a lot of these men that take. We're GONNA pull that off. The mattress can happen. But Joe. You're saying you're above that young Joe Joe Chance Chancellor. Hook YOU UP. Show with her. Actually a PIMP arranged marriage Jesus I. I don't know if you watch that. Show night the tar is becoming one of my favorite characters very awkward and nervous but very funny about it like she said She was she was talking about calling the show Sunday and she goes I didn't really know what to talk about because I hadn't done a lot of research. These people somebody done research I will say it did sound like she didn't do research. That was one of our biggest crowd. Criticisms of the callers do more research. We'll see what happens here. They load up Steve. They're loaded up Kirk. Let's do it. Hello Cook it it's Mariah Carey Mariah our file. Okay so Steve. This is big news with her hands on it. Some Mariah Carey's so I think we're finding it to the bottom of this. I think this is going to be a phone. Call that serious. And there's no way I was going to be a call that the Mike fans are gonna like the riots riot. How are you well? We'll see if you do good Kirk I You Know I. I was surprised by the war between my beautiful family and your animals and I think that truly the not Toronto Boy. That's like my music. I'm usually adored by the case. That's ridiculous okay. I'm surprised you're that familiar with Mariah. Had I did. I did my homework. I I'm I'm very intelligent. I'm half Irish half African American coupon true. Okay that's interesting okay. Yeah you seem like a very bright person. I'm very intelligent. I like all my songs. I play all the instruments. My voice is my best instrument from his three. When I was in my younger days collaborated with a man called college really familiar huge Phil Collins Fan. Yes you have Phil Collins five and I see. It's sexy hairline. Yeah I cook I want you to wear my labia like a robe coming onto me. This is making me uncomfortable. You've eaten you beat me. I did you and your fans beat me and my land my Land Louis and I I took I make me Kirk when I when I cream. It's like a. I know it's not ten o'clock Kirk I just you and your voice. I'm like go ahead. Maria. I'm Marie. I'm okay if you're feeling if you're feeling moist and juicy I'm not GonNa get no way bringing home good. This is free love. Oh wipe down my size towels Lloyd. Wonderful Listen I. There are things that you don't know about me. When I said I went to publicly funded camp and I really hate being around poor people. That's why I started my own. Cat Camp Mariah. I'd like to hire your fat lined up to be a camp counselor out. Sure I'd love to pay raise. Not You know in my kip. There's different kinds of other landlady works there. We have we have a karate. School called The karate lamb chops lamb chops. And I think your son harassed karate. Don't WanNa be sure I mean very good. Consider no one will ever denigrate her again. No are you all set? I'm just worried about Harry's Health Cova nineteen you guys are good good to the camp will be fine. I'm cook. I'm very intelligent. Woman intelligent my. My father was Aaron Article Engineer. He he taught me to fly. I'm not afraid okay. We'll of a disease that says that's cemented in the ground. When I'm when I'm with my fans we take to the stars. I'm a butterfly. Cook a butterfly fucking butterfly. Jeez okay all right anything else. Awful I don't know I I came. Which was beautiful was here on the floor. I have my twin girls cleaning up in a little bit had a fire. I had to fire my my assistant. I knew that she complained because she said that. I pissed on her saga. You know she was godless woman. I Christened her cook sweep ago. Shower at sea should have thanked me. That's true I would give Golden Xiaohua. I want to end this war I suppose. Listen here's the thing. Okay Brian if you're willing to fly here and come to the studio if this is going to put the end of the silly war Mike's right I am willing to have you urinate on me. I suppose that's yes fine deal. It's about time we came to a reasonable. Yes I have. I have seven grammys. This'll be my highest honour. Well thank you. Go look forward to have a good weekend. Okay all right honey. I love you. Baby is definitely Mariah because all the facts checked out. Take that part of my take. Take back the thing I said about research. It's a big yet right. There is see callers research heart take a few more sees Jesus. What was exciting. It was nice to squash the beef. Squash hello hey kirk. It's your best friend. John Krasinski calling from Brooklyn John. How you doing? I'm doing well doing well. I just wanted to say. Congratulations on the victory over Mariah Carey. That's nice that to re tweet from you John. But that's okay I understand. You're busy doing a happy. Go time show. That's true. Listen Kirk can't all be as negative as you are. Okay I UNDERSTAND. I hear all the Anti Semitic stuff that your producers been spouting down to Brooklyn. That's true like what we're hoping to hear that. Well you know I heard that little Diddy about your dog going after people who snow merger. What's that all about? Ask ziggy about that. He's his own person. He's he's no he's not well. I haven't heard from Ebay grew up in Newton and they're fine Jewish community. They're true and you have now been you have now been banned from the town of Newton. Wow John's rouse team. Never these people a little bit. Because you never know if it's GonNa turn the something you of peaked after the office very Nice Guy. Very nice getting a huge star to. Yeah so I guess a quiet place for his his Amazon series is actually really good. Jack Ryan Yeah like a lot. It's a real original ninety seven hundred buildings so good on the less but we like them. Hope it comes on your point. Hello you will. Hello Neil ask him Kirke. How are we doing very well? Thank you just a little run for the day memorial. Dave Nate Portnoy. Jesus I'm more you run. Okay we'll funny. You mentioned Gig on second. 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Trump's Massachusetts I'll be right at that parking lot at Like where the and all this shelter center you'll see it. I'll be there at the three point. Four Mile Mark Run right before the five point. Oh Mile Mark and back a three point one and my time. I'm going to predict twenty two minutes. Forty eight seconds. And what are you giving my loose with Ted? Yeah one hour half is right that we have to ten after fault now one hour six minutes. Twenty Six oh. That's crazy. Why I think it's GonNa be like mechanical issues and injuries and stuff. Yes rolls around all the time. Well he used to be filming it. I know he's not helping me but I'm saying the wheelchair is what if you get lost. I don't think that will happen. If you figure you're route you know we're GONNA discuss the. There's a lot of issues because well we were originally planning a track but then that was citizen that. There's not enough ops. We're actually. We're discussing That the IT'd be best if they're somewhere where they get good signals so that we can incorporate them into the price might affect. We're banging on the callers. Now we'll take some whole number again in a minute. But it's called Pastor Bruce here. What's his name Pastor Bruce Wall swale pastor bruce? Today's insane show. Is that fair to say or no? Yes quite literally think Mike. The show. This is Bruce Wealth in global ministries Christian Church and Boston phrase radio. Now please leave your name telephone number. And the Steve. What and I don't think they're taking calls. And take pre or something and Navy your people lined up people. I'll hold on for a minute. So no but no names got a fire by the globe. So we get. We were working sources behind the scenes. We don't have any news on our favorite Boston Globe columnists right now. It looks like fifty people in the mail room and Taunton. That's believable. And they went off. They went non union people. So you know the big left are saying. This is the reason why you need to unionize Linda position. You'll be doing her thing with John. Henry these billionaires no no word yet whether Linda Zuhdi has taken a pay cut guest yes. Oh let's NASCAR caller chancers to just slash the little people. I incredible I mean you know. I'm sure there are good people there too. You know I mean I think I want celebrate but this is a real people asshole right. Yeah when I first saw that picture I was like there's no way they laid off shaughnessy but you're enough. They did not no no of course not. I mean take a pay cut but there you go your call has been an automated she's onto. Ups Too bad. It's too bad. So yeah so we'll see so They laid off with fifty people. Yes I think a little bit more than that. There are fifty in the in the mail room and then a few more nonunion employees but no no big names that we've recognized service and more than one hundred staff reductions overall in March in the 401K. 401k's gone from five percent to two percent in thirty days. It'll be effective so a billionaire. Getting rid of all these a little people in all the assholes who still right there. Keep their jobs even though the newspaper is essentially operating as a nonprofit all along true true. So this'll be like a Catholic charities firing people because they're not running a surplus. Keep an eye on. Hopefully fingers crossed hoping people hate wizard jobs as weekend. We can only hope do you root for the corona virus to last a little long long enough. That's true I think we were there. I mean the globe is always going to be around again because they don't care about profit they're down like five million China legitimately billionaire. This is just this is a toy I would. He would run this at a loss. Just have machine the invitations. Because he's a fucking asshole even for him is some limit to. Yeah yes night. Guy Up Steve. He probably fired him. Just because it it gives them a bone felt well sickle happy. Friday guys hello. How Are you today sheldon? No no no good. Fuck your often. That what you're me. Yes what do you want laughing at? What are you laughing at? I just didn't know if you could hear me WH- a fun funny about that. I guess it's a nervous laugh. Okay all right. I'm sorry I'm sorry start. What's up their star. Jesus Christ can't stomach talking with me now in control. What are you got ahead? I've always been interested in your time out in La and just wondering if you had an interesting stories you know from your time and the work you're doing out there. Still some I mean you know I. I'm only speaking of these great great L. Stories. But I'll tell you this I mean it's up way I will do a Pica. I'll do you do show and tell a bunch. I promise I'll get a couple of guys. I worked without their hung out without their. You'll have a bunch of ones though was Kevin from Bristol and he's done with the og minivans. Yeah that's true. Yeah it's a good stallone stories. He didn't move movie to loan. Just you just see this. It was good. He told some really good story. You should watch. It is an interesting life he has. He has gone up to these days. We've all these now. No not not not a lot of pictures though. That's true US picture with Jamie Fox and and I think was stallone. Yeah I mean you know my thing was more you would just. I WAS NOT EA. Kevin was in the movie business. I wasn't really have fucking but you would walk around and you would just see random celebrities. It was just weird like you'll be. I talk about how we get my pretzels holiday all all the time of that food court. You always at that food court. He he was always there at the time. His name is Bruce Jenner. Oh always no no you just dead named him Caitlyn Jenner. She was there. Thank you caitlyn Jenner. Was he said what a time woman at the time? If if I'd seen him I said that's Bruce the well you would have said no nineteen shirt in December nineteen ninety nine said. That's hey that's bruce. Jenner woke up by the way that shameful I would have been wrong. Okay do that at least doing go ahead and just say whatever you want to say. 'cause IT'S NOT GONNA make pocket but to three days a week she would be at the She would be at the Fuqua real. Yes yeah that you go with this information. She go for the Pretzel Dogs or just the pretzels. Not necessarily even at the At that one. Yeah you could have sold a tip to that To the national enquirer nineteen ninety nine. She was just a former athlete at that point. I guess that's true reality all right. It's kind of like. Oh I remember saying Oh. She used to be on chips. And Eric Estrada left in the person I was with was like what do you mean she is Caitlin Jenner? Now you're just saying you'll see and she's my friends. Oh you're right. That's Caitlyn Jenner. We were very even then you wear and the think that counts as I think that counts as a good la store. I suppose by the way Marty Walsh is now on Boston. Radio to twenty-seven viewers is that really true and he's seven viewers. Oh Not just dropped down to twenty three. Oh man believe suppose for public health reasons you might WANNA come on a show to get the message about corona virus out to a larger audience. Join US anytime some. Something tells me he won't probably. I wonder if pastor Bruce Wall weighing on Charlie's relate Mars relationship. Charlie no question why the same yeah knows the load up Steve. They're loaded up. Carlisle the patient people. Hello what's up? John John John who by the way it's going to clock we were good. I used to what dream. You're talking about breach meets this morning. They've done good one. What this this is it makes me Oh. Am Hbo Doing? We were just talking about free speech this morning but I heard you the first time it also because no one knows who that sounds like anyways necessarily seemed to hit a little bit better with Mike but Hey jay-paul I'm Steve. Yes wow I'll handle sorry. Wow with astle. We've anything else are no there. Was Chris Hansen Right. Say you guys oversold it a little less fun. Yeah I was expecting the most ever. Hey Gather Round. Everyone ethic the moment in pretty good. That was good. I mean those guys are Chris Hansen. Tj DIV from Providence. The G. Minivans are the best now drunk or Curtis. If that's your real name Leonard. We have a seat at the bar right over there. Stop watching playgrounds and start watching this. It's good that the Journal decided what else playground I think he. I think he stopped being journalist. Those checks Yeah I mean. He was like thousands of dollars debt for a little while true. That's true plays along. I I respect. He plays along on Cameo. I mean if him than I am. If you refuse to say have a seat on Cameo do you think people? Kfc WITH A team. Lambley tweets ten fifty. What do you remember what contrarian asshole you remember your friends in through moments Steve Province respond the team alimony? Jesus was about well. He tries to be these like mentors or Mayo. They're all the same to resume radio host. Wfan idiot loser after leaving on. Hold for ten minutes. I'm kidding offensive. But you did get on the first day that they want. Yeah Sounds Fun so there you go. My friends see thoughts. Jesus Casey in Corrobos God well crop was invented. You more master than a friend. That's true well. Isn't that pre with them? The Mike something else before. Steve said the nothing. Grandpa did you see that The Chinese viruses a hate crime. And thank God. I liked the mayor. Who has named Stephen Nut seems with me on this one? I'm sure but it says that like well. We base this on a spike in Racism and each to how you possibly possibly measuring tickets or something. That's one eight one one for hate speech tickets now. Geez it's nice to get a Censoring story but we haven't lost who we are as a nation. I would have to assume that Hate crimes are down across the board with social distancing other up way up in San Antonio. Yeah well hate speech vs hate chrome speeches violence. I forgot She's so what happens. How are they gonNA legislative again instead of curiosity if you say? I don't know I guess you can tattle person. What's he gonNa Fall Social Media Weed out? If you tweet out Chinese virus they gonNA get your lived San Antonio. You're going to find anything in the breakthrough a ticket. Yes I suppose we're paying that You got me but right the racist on the On the bottom line yeah I mean what the fuck Jesus updates for the five case Abor. No not yet. We don't have copy from our partners charge running but still hearing good things about the APP the technological side of it for the user experience I think is going to be good for people The broadcast team is is growing. We've inspector J from twitter has reached out. He's been. He's been vouch for his work with. Okay he's been. He's been vouched for by. Numerous members of the discord hosts. I believe the voice and discord. Oh so he does his own show why we think we might have inspector J on the broadcast team and Scott neary also sipped for it to be a part of the broadcasting got near Scott neary Scott Doncaster Inspector J star we have a pre game. Show right yeah we have A. We'll have a pregame. Show that around nine forty five earlier that I want to go around the country. Get some reaction for people ready to go on a Boston Marathon. It starts starts at a certain time but you get some reaction. You Talk to people. You guys my win the wheelchair division. I think we've got a pretty good ten scope out. Everyone I mean. I don't know there may be somebody else. I think the Handicapped Division in general. We've got well. That's pretty competitive. Walk that far. You're right that's GONNA be myself quite the battle. I think not handicapped divisions about four people. Talk it featherstone's finishing by the way emerges address DC show. That is a rushmore. Move if he didn't want to be doing the way that the route looked like something to you know they do that will be. That's what I've been asking people to do. I think that'd be funny. Absolute I agree with that. Did you see last night that that they did they do this in New York? They flew these fucking jetblue flights over. Yes but you know the blue angels. Yeah they did it over Boston. Oh but it was jetblue blue. It's really yeah with. She was like circling one. Want Trade Center use of company like a better. You can do whatever that cost could use donate that somewhere New Yorkers you have a nice images of pains flying one of the things is that because they took money under one of these bailouts one of the requirements was that they continue flying routes so there are some of these routes where duff seven people on a plane but they're wired by federal law in order to keep them flying right okay but was if do with that. I imagine it was one of those flights and they just incorporated an extra route into it. They're like hey you know if we get a fly this anyways keep the bail out money. Why don't we just turn it into a publicity in a flame? The part of that might not have been anybody on it. Oh yeah I know I was. Yeah I was talking to somebody who just flew where the hell nego- was Texas. And they said they were the only two people on the flight to people on the fucking flies luxury while Allegra believe. That's my point you were saying about going to New York. If said America said to be. Hey you have two or three o'clock for me. We need you here for some reason. Yeah I mean I would go any. I mean I would go but I would just I wouldn't go with any real trepidation. You'll probably encounter less people than you would. Yeah I would. I would drive the hallway. I would take the train or anything right at park mask on. Whatever you know Fucking sanitize up the whole time. Leave the mask on and get in the car and drive back although it sounds like based on big cats call. People have been in that office. That's what kind of. Yes that's true that's true. You know the other thing that we have gotten to was the Robert Silverman piece you gotTa CK a little bit. But yeah that's true. Really have maybe we'll get to Monday. That'll hold until Monday ethic. Yeah ANYTHING STEVE PUT NUMBER. Backup some some laughs tweet. The number out again team. Lambley Cheese Kevin. God that's betrayal. We actually call him aboard disgusted by who you know. I'm still discovering is able to talk to Michigan. I'm so disgusted by that fucking interview. The Machine Gillis Really. He was so bad during it. Oh now why would you even bring that? It was just so bad I mean it was really cool like Who was better with shingles MIA cover? Oh you just say I can't really I mean it's just at that point I can come on. I'll say Mike was better than cancer listened to neither one of you just said me would have made better. Mike Thank you. Thank you appreciate was bad. It doesn't mean as much. There's this year's media appreciate mediocre with Mike. Thank you Mediocre Mike. An of all my shoes. That's the good one. I can't believe Donald Trump to think of it. Well the president might for one year up Turkish Mutt. Hey what's up? Bad News wrong buddy. David just came into the towns. The Oh tell me that the fire me either. Watchmaking the minute shop come on. He was on something good. They're just added the funny premise. Guess I stink. You get us. Yeah I mean you got it folks mud thing again. I don't know this show is is the weirdest show. It was funny to define the show. You how much ending Gift Today. A little bit. I mean really. You get laughed not as much as Cullen. I heard Edwards. I heard F F- yeah. I mean forty minutes of Insanity. I don't know this seven. Seven four a character from the old days Battle at the brainless was one of the best episodes with those. I remembered author those I do remember yes. Those are great where you have you ever thought about doing now. I don't like to Rehash. Yeah I don't I it's just we we did it like I mean we could do it some other four but I I know Chris. Music or movies mean Steve would be decent Canada but that was imagine if I did that though like McCain is because we did it I like to do new trying. New stuff anyway But those are great. Mutt was sober. It's such a great sport with that. So it's Chris he's bringing it back. It'd be like Jimmy. Kimmel bringing back Carlo. Black face you know exactly. It's Sorta the way comparison and I. It would never be in better because it was just knew it was new was the first now. There'd be kind of an element of where I listened to that and it would be try to be. I don't know the answer. Do I say something purposely bone now for massive numbers who oh by God those twenty fives for hours which is crazy. We did like five times. We're doing the show. Jerry was out. He lost the last one came back a month. Like some say Baraci loss last time. I want to do this again. Like oh good then. We should mention anything God the summer. Let's do something. Did you want to give any details on your phone? Call with Jerry because I still have not responded an apology. Oh well I know we just we again. It's like they load up Steve or they're loaded up Kirk. I hold on a second. It's like it always is with us like it's it's we talk and it's calm. It's great I'm trying to figure out. I'm trying to figure out a way that we can do this where it doesn't get crazy and that's more me than him because he's a very important person in my life. I'm angry with him in some things. He's angry about something we haven't talked for two months. Which is we used to talk three or four times a day so we miss each other a lot so I mean it's like not talking to your brother so I'm trying to figure out how to work that out so I don't know that's nice. Get there or we won't who knows. I suspected in fact predicted some day. It'd be better predictions of all wrong. Somebody talk to somebody you know if you ever want access to that Esi Robinson right wing ROLODEX show. He's going to sign up to apologize. Alba show the troll here but that was good. It was we you know we just talked about it. We were both reveling in the struggles of certain company in Brighton Massachusetts Stenius. Which is a good way of bond? I'm I this. Hello I give what they're looking at. You know what they're looking at what looking at I mean there's this guy something or is he something screws good. You know what they're looking at us. Lapd Police Department. We just got made guy. I say what I mean. I do what I say. Okay good Vince continue. Can you get killed or no? What are you fucking? Can you get killed or no Donald Duck? It's not quite working. Even that's not right. Steve no no see trying to figure out a way to get do a Colin shirt. Have you've been part of this or no? I have not no. It doesn't who's doing these are good. I mean the drawings and good as a couple a couple of people dead people have been working on it. Do a good jobs. I know the time that seems almost running out now but I wanted to look like an eighties. Tv carrot you know what I mean I was thinking almost like a silhouette of cullen looking down with asseretto. That's what I was thinking too. That's what we've got but it just doesn't. I don't know exactly what I'm I'm articulate properly to think about anything about. I take one or two one or two more. If somebody's GonNa make me laugh at me. Jesus. Hey Kirk. How's it going? What's up not that? I WanNa do Cohen on Mike. How good of a job. He's doing show. That's not a joke. I like Mike on the show and I think he needs to complement every now. And what's your angle character? That's now thank you. Sorry I liked the show a lot and I gotTA listen to calls every day complain about Mike and I feel bad for him so I want to let him know. Thank you sweet. Oh we lose them. Okay go back next train or something. Take another call and we're working out. Thank you sir. Go see that must make you feel better. It does really lifts my spirits up Steve. They're loaded up. We'll take somebody made me laugh. It's gather your please God. Let me get out of here. Hey Kirk brother or should I say half brother? He does your half brother. Milk Dudley great to finally connect with you. Yes hello my brother. How are you why would you? Why would why would why would bosses wife named you milk? That seems wildly inappropriate stupid. I think it's a great. The Senate professional name chocolate chocolate. How he wrote he was really a great family. The children in new about this is based in horrible. Stereotypes going milk. This is milk your full name Nicholas. Yeah less offensive milk delicious Dudley welcoming twitter well if If I can tell you a little bit about our father you know if you ever seen the movie starbuck you know the Vince. Vaughn movie Big Daddy. Moss was Kinda like that. I didn't see someone now. Did you see that movie star Buck? Okay well like like our dead said you know like my win a little bit of Brown in them you know. I think we all know what kind of went there But you know he would go through fits of rage every one. The neighbor tried to use our a garage. Sale sign He was so mad. He was pounding pounding the kitchen table with our silent. It was It was just obviously you. Don't use any of those then all hit ahead. Md me go ahead. And I say you know I've been too tough times at. I haven't talked to jump in front of a water taxi. There you go into board would Instead and so now you know I was. I was weatherman on local cable access. Yeah But you know the town crier. They had some. You know an editor in chief. That was trying to get me off the now. Now I've logged off it. Why would they do that? It's weird you notice. Fans fans love me. And you know we're probably going to have a say on the town of the editor of the team. All right all right talk to you later. Thanks buddy thanks. There have to be on the brothers Minihan next time so inappropriate. Go ahead Steve. We'll take one so god. What is this morning? Hello hits credits. Visiting nurse from Rhode Island you. How's it going? I'm doing good. I'm doing good. I don't know what these people's problem on I called. Lake twice and I'm right on you're always on I know it's oppressive. I'm let me ask you a question. Kristie eat French fries. No Yeah okay so on one of these ones. You can only pick three. I just saw this on twitter. Mcdonald's French fries Arby's French fries. What's that I've never? I've never been this is true. I've never arby's that I can tell you as a fact I've also never been to Ann Arbor questioned the Taco bell checkers chick-fil-a Popeye's KFC. Fuck that and Burger King. If I had to pick three fries as long as they're hot I would definitely go. Mcdonald's chick fillet nobody other fries interesting. You wouldn't go bursting. Has Pretty Good fries they do from Kinda bags? Wendy's fries are similar to McDonald's fries as you well know when he's not up here That's strange I. I'm sorry seven to the public. The problem with McDonald's fries is that they do not age. Well you'd about five to ten minutes hotdog. I'm talking piping hot. You cannot better than McDonald's Donald Chick better than maybe they're better than chick-fil-a with Chick A.'s. Age better five guys are not good now. I don't like to know when they're when they're Cajun Front. They go quantity over quality and the symptoms are to potato either not cooked enough. Yeah I like the wedges too big I've never had the oh he's a fucking that when he says because team thima not different between the two. Kfc GETS A cut. Sorry Chris what were you gonNA say? I want to Toggle Bell I talk about. That's too yeah. They're trying to get into the game. I've never been really do they like a potato Taco. That's pretty good but not yeah. It's not bad not bad But Definitely Fillet Burger King and I poke Wendy's Wendy's there've been. I've never been Mac with verify we did not go to. Wendy's sure did yeah. Well he did that on the air didn't they? How much that one costs you. Well what would be the what would be the incentive you paying him money on your behalf. How does that help financially saves your honor? True people would be leaving this podcast and drew one more making good. Let's go how hello. Hello yes Hello Dick. I don't I guess warranted a call my friend. I as you can tell them a little old yes I I know the whole thing very well. I was on the phone with my friend in Western mass back in February. He told me he's a nursing home and teach just sit. How great this place. Why THEY THEY? They delivered a bunch of pizzas. Yes we got I just when he said Western mass like if he makes fun of me he's got it and he's GonNa pull it out. The whole thing was very thin again. You KNOW THEY STILL UP Steve. One one more. Let's see if we could finish this fucking disasters. Rangers show it might be. It might crazy week of the crazy. Finale Steve looks very tense. We worry about editing. It's GonNa take a while. Hello Hey my on you are. Oh hey how it's going. Hey I just had a couple of quick points if I may One how come nobody explored the way you Pronounce Sopranos. You say soprano say Sopranos. I know I know here. I guess that's the thing you do hear it. You're right though. I think Sopranos is the more way more. Even Italian people will say surprised. He says he says Tovia. Soprano you're right. I don't know why I do that. You're right it should be explored secondly I'm sorry secondly I was just wondering Something else you guys should probably export. It's just steve lack of local friends. I think it could turn into a great reality show. This'll weird but at the same time I understand. How old are you twenty eight so if you moved somewhere and if it's a neighboring state if you move somewhere for a new job or something like this point your life would you. Are you married or no? No no I mean to be fair. I've been watertown for Rhode Island. I was like you were just getting ready to accept this bullshit premise. That I don't have any friends in Boston so I did not say I've got call it. I've got a bunch of college friend. Who but nobody was new friends. I haven't gone out to bars and so worked up each. Nobody fucks issue. You said you don't have friends here. I'm going to a birthday party this weekend. Nicely to Jerry. Cova nineteen going birthday the drive-by Birthday Party for for an adult. Yes just Trifi. And hang out outside for distancing. Who's this is? What's your first name your first name. I'm not going to give them if anything or any chance. That's a true story. No I don't believe we watertown combining Steve Birthday mile guys. Can we don't need to know that today that's fine. They've no meat left. But that's all right. Thanks for the call. I understand why you wouldn't. What's a person's first name? I'm not going to give them anything. Male or female male and female a twins having birthdays and the same day. It's a married couple. The same birthday at were a couple of we have a couple friends. They have the same birthday this. When did I ever say the party? Who would've or one of them is having a birthday that hard to wrap your head around. Which was the guy or the girl guy? Okay I've thought your age Older how old retired retirement. Are they really know? How old are they? If like I think probably five or six years older than me in this gentleman is having a birthday party. Yeah it's like a you know. Hey corentin sucks but we can come and see. Our friends uplifting. They'll make better there in the snow tomorrow waving of these people. That's only that much fun to me. Do this Yeah I mean well. How dry on the weekend. I'm maybe twenty five minutes province uniting drive. Yeah it's all weird. He's let's go see likes car. These people go through both work and through friends from bowdoin not convenient. I don't know I'm buying you know. It seems like that'd be something get oh I need to layers to this. I have to an all right. Well there you go okay. Well enjoyed happy birthday happy. Mother's Day to all the mothers out there as well Express VPN DOT com slash minihan. death wish coffee DOT COM SLASH. Kirk and of course the Dave Porter Memorial. Five K may twenty. Third get your tickets. T. Shirt now. Kirkman show DOT COM TRISTATE DOT COM PROMO CODE KIRK. Steve Get to work. We'll talk to you later. This was pretty reprehensible I I don't know how it can be anybody's idea humor.

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Game, Set, & Match

The Kirk Minihane Show

3:13:30 hr | 9 months ago

Game, Set, & Match

"Obviously my hero Larry Bird and In one thousand nine hundred ninety eight deliver the past his prime you not there's less. MVP was eighty six. They made the finals navy. Seven those last night. I made the finals The famous duel with Dominique Wilkins of him know that I do have million The Celtics six people forget in that series of cease and conference semifinals. I lost the finals to the Pistons. they were. They were down three to nearly go LANTA and game six And Win the game did and bird said after the game he said well they had their chance at a big chance But he said I think it will back. The Gardner shots are GonNa go in. We'll faster I think so needs to be a big win for the Celtics Right. Until then I think that was history's greatest guarantee. Yes in the sporting event that is obviously the clips. Of course I mean to say six. Oh Six oh and then deliver on six and not only that chain to say six zero six two and then say you know what I'm feeling. Yeah so six so it was you know in the the thing. I'm most impressive to think about. How impressed with myself on this? The thing is most impressive is I told Steve. My game plan was going to be didn't stick around at all right and said I was GonNa make you make the plays no double fault. I mean not one single double-fault I think only two unforced errors a clinic how to win a tennis match right even though the Umpire seemed to be against you. Oh there's I mean there's no question. Injury seemed to be working against you Andrews very real if it was weird after the match and I walked back to the car. It's sort of snap back in place. If you'll find I ran this morning. I feel good so it was more of the things we sometimes just catch break but but I mean the idea. Just the idea that Steve Robinson played high school tennis. Now I think can be. I mean. Obviously that that's up to you now. You have to go do your thing I I have to. I've gotten some hot tips or really some leads for example matter Wasco currently yes. I can't speak speak for ten years ago yet. I'll find that out Does not offer boys or girls tests And their courts appear to be at least according to their webs outdoors outdoors. I can confirm that as well. Wow yes at Robinson I I went to matter. WASCO play tennis inside. I don't know why I don't know if it was at a school thing or where was Mhm You seemed to me actually said after the match yesterday I didn't expect it was going to be that brutal. My blaming me. Was I supposed to do my hand. I coordination is so bad that I might need an MRI or something. You look like I remember when Kate was young like little. She really liked those things when she was like two or three. When you drive by the opening it like a car place in that thing will be blowing in the wind with the arms? It's would see like a lot to me yesterday. And he managed the frame of the racket so remarkably consistently. I don't can you talk about that at all. I have no idea what was going on my my I was not keeping my eye on the ball shall we. Should I say this you actually was. I've played play tennis since at my eyes have started going. You know see Mike and scientists but will shame but but when you're is you deteriorate you wouldn't understand things get more difficult. Well I made. I made the last minute decision to not go with glasses to contacts during practice or your but yeah I thought I thought that that might be a better option but poor coaching by did not serve me. Well L. O.. T. Mos B. We'll get to the broadcast in the second and I think we've found the star people always like. Oh this please play by play Guy Suck. They're all the same. Well I'm going to offer offer a disagreement to that conversation on a new stock through the rank. Have we ever yes. In another example of the drug crisis in Cape Cod. It was seen very clearly. He was up to pick up on that. Because he wasn't as forthright with you as yes so whip cream bottle is empty on the. Why why you're seven seven candidate with you But I mean it was just the I mean it was. It was never after the first game. We had a break point. It was never a contest. That's what fell bad is that it wasn't even really a tennis match. There was has no competition. There was no volley. There's Oh back and forth one or two decent rallies but that was you couldn't happen you literally did not get one back hand over the net know what happened. I never have said my backhand was going to be great. Well after I saw you play. I admitted that it was going to be was going to be brutal forgetting all. This is that clip. We should be playing over and over again is is the I will be right that sound like I said. Hey you know I'm GonNa kick your ass and tennis. You told me you I will beat you and ask you. You might and he goes. No no no I will I I already said I was just talking shit on our podcast. He'll I don't think he was actually going to be like we're GonNa go you will. You're talking to me. I'm not. I'll take that challenge up. I'll I don't think anybody anytime right And I mean this idea that you suggest that was some of faking this injuries. Insult your boss. That's ridiculous claw I apologize. The real question is after that final point could they beat Steve on my knees. I'm not saying six. Oh six oblique but I feel like I just have to get the ball over the net. I'll say I said that UNFORCED ERRORS WE'RE GONNA kill me. They did ago Steve. In that one on your knees I would think I would. I'm saying he win the League age where he might be tough to move around. You know I'm just saying place obscene. It wouldn't even try to move on. You know staying pretty clear. I beat myself awful lot. I will say I wanted to do my one gripe with team oh is that the whole strategy of having to of charging the net after we saw how consistent. You're lob game was there there's really no second tier to the strategy. Spoke team often the match though like one game I decided I was in the service volleyed. You see what the net three times in a row The you stop at at that. You don't go all the way to the net you go all the way in the net. Yeah almost like you've never played tennis before like and then if you're that close to the net that gives me more room to lob over your head the threat the threat here is that you guys. I brought up that I played tennis in high school. And you guys act like I said I was a semi pro or professional tennyson high. Like nobody made that leap. But you played first doubles at a school population. Three hundred and fifty in central made any texted me after the match. I gave him the score. And he said. Don't you kind of wish you played sports in Maine as a high school kid. That's true I would have been you know state champion in tennis sound. I mean this is with less competitive for sure I would say it was yes I mean. I don't think ever played tennis in high school. But that's but Mike Mike some case right now I'll get you know he is easy. I would say shoddy track record of journalism but will continue over Ford saying So we played yet. Oh I simply safe before we get to the play by play stuff and some other big show stuff to them. We also have a tennis related. It's song that we might want to kick off. Oh good Simply safe We Love them as we know wins Christmas season simply safe. We'll be breaking if you're not careful So get that simplisafe right now. SIMPLISAFE simplisafe dot com slash Kirk. That's K. I R. K.. Now take advantage of simplisafe. Tell me some of the people might urge in the broadcast yesterday. Told me some of the people of you simply safe in your life believe Jerry Troop Yano. Okay yes go back to get our Seinfeld wikipedia character page out of seinfeld characters. 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You'll see. Take Wasa Paul by the way of fall when you re in the bed route seems topped away. Go to your limits your you really WanNa say saying. We'll oh played. Steve Lack of secret saxophone his hobby from Tom. Longo the penalty phase of course allow detector and a nasty divorce. I don't know the rules. She can't stand Dan his futility. Good that's great song timely. A little rough Steve. Do you think people we sing songs. Like that with lyrics when you signed on here I did not know you think it's going to happen them. Are you worried about that worried about wall system. No no doc well. I don't think a lot of these questions can be geared towards these personal life. Necessarily No. I think it's more you know this is I mean. So where are we at with this with the lie detector Well I've been researching ways to pass a lie detector ten. I'm sorry that's that's that's how I'm looking here Mr the test Oh it'll happen yeah. I'm working hard on that. Are you working hard on. Oh yeah okay. We're going hard or hardly working friend. Yeah that'll definitely happen. Well I mean we mike and I can handle it if you want to be four. Somebody will volunteer to do working diligently on it. We'll do it here right yes okay. We'll be administered by DC. We have plenty of. I saw some of the as uh-huh Barstool advisors. Are Those plenty questions so yes well. My question for Mike was should. I even be allowed to find the right point. I I'm fully expecting this to exonerate me an end all suspicion whatsoever. If I'm the one who bring in the lie detector brings in the lie detector. There will be some questions over to Mike Erie Mike Carey production. But you're in turn on the case and nobody. Does it like you guys so so great. I mean I think people want to see one definitely WanNa hear it absolutely you know. But I wonder Steve's GonNa be able to pass it right but we'll do rob. We're GONNA see what happens but these are not these are flawed. These tests are Florida here. Not Missile in a court. The law will be beaching see. Let's see how he does under these questions. So we're GONNA get hopefully next week. I'll do before the holiday season. Well ideally yes S.. Next week or two. I think the people want to hear that So gimme Gimme a couple of highlights from the broadcast. So first of all let me just say yes. I have to give callings credit. Yes did not win win. For Event I would have. I heard Mike suggestion. The broadcast probably miked up the players. Yes that seems like a nice seems like a good move and and there are some camera issues but I thought overall and analysis is choice of play by play guy was perfect. It was interesting choice calling in a minus for the events. That's pretty good p plus a good job with the pre-game show you the match was good crisp. The Post Game. It was a decent calling on the guy. Ah Eight o'clock. We'll say one thing. I think you're bringing up the same point that I was gonNA bring up. You had one request on our conference. Correct the national anthem. Yeah well the cutting room floor firsthand account. I thought it'd be funny just for the for the listeners I was. I thought we're going to do a whole thing planned out not the whole thing. We're GONNA do the Russian in America. Nationals I was going to take a knee during the Russian national. I wish I was looking forward to but you know what can you I do. I don't know if it was our fault in the broadcast booth but I know that Dave asked US Scott are great play by play Guy Yes to he says hey All right we're like pretend we're just done with the pre-game now and just introduce the The National Anthem Kirk out of the American national anthem. Steve come out to the Russian the national anthem. So Steve said I'm sorry Scott we are now going to play the American and Russian. Do you stick stick. Leoni is worried because that's a hall of Famer be careful that name He's better than Castiglione and they'll say that I mean in fairness he was on heroin. What do you want the guy that do? I mean it's interesting. Usually guys like that Kinda denied that they're on any social media play by play guy. Make the defensive wasn't isn't that high says Steve said to him before the match. How are you right now? And he goes. Oh I do everything. Hi I'm surprised. We didn't get thrown out of Rome of marijuana. I spoke to him for a minute after the match. And he said he lives down the Cape. And he's like he's like it's good place. If you play by play guy doesn't seem particularly the deal for me. It's it's weird that I talked to Dave and I mentioned your friend. John Perot's the idea was that we get a would have been perfect. We get a a real pro. I think it's also good that he was bad. Sure didn't brought out the best of Mike Erie. Well I agree I saw some mixed reactions. Really got it or really did not think deserve some serious trend which I think is a lot a lot of people thought I was in fact serious. Culinary stepped up though when he he clearly saw that Scott was going to be a vacant play by play guy. I didn't think Dave long no I would say great producing by Steve Robinson mention match. Yeah maybe throwing in something like The play by play stuff that we or more so your show. Your old show made fun of the idea of bringing up absurd like abortion or whatever topics vicks and having the play by play Guy Not really reacting. Just react to the game yes. It's almost like the movie best in show with Fred Willard. Yes services funny yes very funny for some reason that I don't think we would have to coach Scott not to react to the things you were saying I so I kind of told him that. His version of not reacting was legitimately right not reacting for up to five minutes. We highlight Steve. We'll say though it's also strange on Scott long-sidelined Mike Your boss center in Sudbury Very Massachusetts interview. Both Kirk boss hold on hold. We'll see the center. Steve Bosse Sports Bossy spur. The boss Center Boston Sports are great friends at Boston. Sports awesome fantastic. Yes great coaches Kaley. The whole crowd. I'm just when we were walking in and and I've got gary with me and Dave colonnade filming as we're walking and some old guys walking in with his test record and say well what's this all about. This is quite a production. Yes clearly looking at me like I'm a professional tennis player player. Watch what you're in for Bob. There was a couple of women Playing doubles in the court next to us and they would look over occasion like what is going on house cleaning saying I was rolling around the floor. They seem confused so just to be clear. I have never in my life. I've watched many sporting events on Sunday night football for example. You don't hear hi Al.. This is Chris and then if you did it Chris Collins pointed out true he wouldn't say Whoa it also they always get the name the say Goulette you know park. They usually get the place rate especially when they're nice enough to let us use the place I'm Scott alongside alongside wind Mike Boss Center in Sudbury Massachusetts had the chance to interview both Kirk and Mike. I'm sorry Kirk Tennis Hash Day. Go Go yeah strange. Not Give your last name for a broad. Yes I did talk with both Kirk. And Steve both competitors. Today they looked fired up. Let's see what they had to say. Nice Guy Very Nice. It's always strange when you're has like that are big fans of the show. Yeah he just doesn't seem like it's useless to get high. Listen to the show all day. That was that was weird. That's why I brought up a meter is I was expecting a real perennial pro and even in. DMZ kind of seemed almost too. Because when I was just give me some tennis bazaars this is such that obscure tennis terms. He literally broke down. Well here's what a service right. Okay so I thought he was almost kicking the century here. We have Kirk serving on our close side here just out of breath. He's got a lot of the jump was but I serve out. This is the first service service for serve. Serve Volley for serve. Scott there are we are we are we are already in game action already. Got Scott good on his feet early on my my analysis would tell me that Kirkman reminds me I mean obviously people compare them to John McEnroe with his fiery temper. I see him as more of a quiet Wyatt. Andre Agassi type which you wouldn't get it from his on air persona whereas Steve His build kind of reminds me of that of Martinez. Never to get that one I I want to have a horrid horrid anger out here today. But he's so far kept a control two seconds. uh-huh unbelievable you're able to compose I couldn't. I can hear you a little bit of your day for sure. I never heard Scott during the match. That doesn't appear got to be a lot of back and forth and I've always my my high school tennis coach. Actually Jerry ship our Dini tennis sort of back and forth game and it really really brings down to whoever gets more fourths typically wins. Wouldn't you say that's Yeah so controversial line. Of course the abortion line. It's galvanizing angling very serious. Didn't didn't seem like it really fit in in the tennis match would watch my daughter technically and then game point there right now. I think there is a little bit of a discrepancy between who just scored that point as I think we're standard that the broadcast team tells the rules of tennis during tennis match. I've never encountered that before. Well in case for anyone out there watching that doesn't know tennis fit we are describing the people you modify time in here. He's it was a lot of confidence from both is right and then the match started and I noticed that change between both of them they both loath one clearly suck. Do they both clearly do talk about a win. I see how hurtful there was. It's a real mix of strategies here coming to get her yes where no one quite knew. There was even a point where I did tell Scott not to react to certain things right and Dave Ramsey. Why didn't Scott reacted? That became too much. That's my calling. The producer is the on Air Guy who became too hyper focused on Scott Sucking. It's Funnier to let that breathe and not acknowledge it and another issue. If Kate was watching yes might have been win Scott Completely And says what the fuck is your that. I don't think so your worship. What what was he talking about? I have it on the court. There was a maybe he was when you blew up at the umpire. Pirates right and goes what the fuck with that and Dave Goes Scott Aggression Russian out there on the broadcast and can election is very serious. It really reminds us that life is finite and that really what are we getting mad about. We're getting mad about a tennis match because the grim reaper is always upon us. Let's go yeah I mean you had that one right there and Steve came to the net and Kirk the right and it's like I always say if let's get you down turned to the bottle you know there's really nowhere else to turn. It's easier to take your mind off things things and that's what I say is just roll up a dube or hit the bottle and that well Steve went along with that point. So that's Scott. Take ignorance your advice to sort of play the straight I guess even do that. Not a play by play guy strange dining having and this is what I was trying to say. I didn't want to be rude to Scott right in front trying to mention this to you at the end of the match. Yes I thought that if I knew more about Scott before we probably should have reversed roles maybe I could be the straight man. He'd be the Wacky Guy. I literally just got a text from adamant and WHO's there. Yes literally literally eight sixteen. AM WHO's call was that method method. Call the game. Have you miked up before he showed up. All I heard was I'm very confident. McGrady evaluator of talent Dave Colony. That really your brother was flabbergasted labra guest and he was the whole colony thing for him was not he doesn't get colony like we get calling was not impressed number not even that it was just the fact that they've said I'm a great evaluator of town I heard him say even mean he'd said he just said was he properly You hired this guy to the play by play guy you may forget. I don't remember the colonnade donating era I try not to when he was you mean Konate and framing and he dropped that line cinema great evaluator of talent. And what has he has great Barry Armstrong wrong. The example was Kirkman had behind the name. Well he he did leave Berry. Go work with Kim Carrigan career before Dave discovered me is when you were ochre for him. How you figure that out that month in Framingham changed every we have to deal with this shit head again in February to produce our show for few days could God? Yeah we'll find out on the floor with you. I mean about we've got we've got our If if you guys are on the floor we've got a super bowl show here you and Scott are GonNa do the Kirkman the Hampshire advertisers. So get ready very good. It dominates the golf course. Do you think sort of that. Mental toughness will impact of it. All we'll help in situations like this so we have kirk comes here. I mean I think it's actually funny. Return your by Steve. Coney would have been better etter. It'll make sense to me like you. You big faith one. That just watched the match yet. kind of Neil. Five my favorite line of the entire match when mean Dave kind of went back and forth and Dave said Filling in for Scott here and I almost like you should have been doing it the whole time. Goodness knows about Steve's game so far we came in this game with with a ton of confidence brimming with confidence in his water confidence. And what is his shirts. As a means Vlad something and I couldn't read the bottom of it you almost have to think it's from the homeland of Soviet Russia. Prospect is Tony said the junior. If there's any flies on you the paying rent I mean nothing gets past Scott to read it for me and he goes no no I was honestly blindsided by that and blindsided by what I. I really didn't know what to say. There was that voice that I can play by. Play Guy from Steve. Jewish sounded from doing play by play other games. Can you didn't yes. Did you say all right broadcast. Yeah it's good to like these guys are losing they feel like you're losing control of this. Matters turned the lopsided score here. How early did you know that it was not gonNa go after the first game? We the chance to win that game. I know but after the first game I was like maybe after the second game I knew going into it that I was going to lose. Just because I wasn't consistent stint at all and that terminology really. You wouldn't expect that to throw a broadcast or so much but game sets. I was very confused New Orleans I spent. I will tell you now. I spent twenty minutes. Twenty five minutes. over Thanksgiving organ. My Lob shots really paid off I had a feeling that just even talking to a Thima Komo news is feeling that was going to be strategy and my lob shots were perfect. I only gave the pilot my favorite moment Ho mattress. Steve whiffed on that made a weird noise and then ran back and hit it again which was great. The the double swing yes. That was my favorite. That was my favorite moment. It's been captured by a couple of twitter suspicion. That would be one guy. One Guy Isolated one serve you had that was hit the actual building itself. Yup there are a couple of them. But there's there's you know he's he can hit the ball harder these big big this summer to work with their well. That's what his high school coach. So evidently who is that again Jerry. Tokyo those your high school. Jim Murray player but yeah I was. I was if there is an afterlife this life as we know it comes to an end. Aw Ooh the person really good spot to I mean it was a prima. I've you the boss see. I'm sorry. The boss center today They did a nice job. Nice setup. Yeah yeah I thought that was not that cold once we got going no. I wasn't even his icy oop. She's Divas Steve Steve tanktop going. That's the big controversy. I'm I I can tell you about that. Yeah Oh this is a gone now. Is that thing off your back. Now what are you talking about. It's been captured photographs. It's out there. I have no idea what you're talking about. This is the kind of treatment I got an a half time. I was there not happy because he's not happy but it was it was. I had a good time. It was fun but but Steve was upset and then evaluate. You would think the play by play guy would describe something like that. Yeah so kirk is already up up three games to love here in the first set time out on the court time out on the court is that typical intense course. I'm an expert yes Lot of towel breaks breaks water break short. Well that's what the boys need. Usually people don't breakout in a sweat. This early in the match but minutes seems to be perspiration just a bit. But you do hear the bench Byron perspire. perspiration three very articulate. Men Pass braiding. I liked when I called out. Daily Davis down here on the sidelines. Guy Next to you know what is the magic the capital. I know a lot of people might wonder Manhattan is playing of the injury La but it's Porta remember. He has no history of embellishing or exaggerating things for effect. Unlike one of the members boy again this match here absolutely. That's an excellent point serve second serve reports started chemistry. There is precedent. Why enjoyed it and I? It's nice to be the you know to predict something. Come through that you know it's funny. I saw Steve Calkins walk. Wherever there was a month ago? This I know within the never met Scott. I know which which would be a real. That would be the real shape that would. What was the interaction with you in because you in Thima became quite chummy? was there a check like just blew by the matcher. Well he was sort of respect. Like I'm I'm sort of the end. Read for his ballot. Check guy that he admires opponent that he would want to have on the side the most but he just kind of said you know I will say I know this after the match team. Oh and Steve Knight talk from the team said quote. I'm calling. Let's Steve Correct me if I'm wrong The plan was good. The execution was poor. He put it all on you. I don't know if I heard that I would agree. I would agree. I think there needs to be a second level to the plan. I think it's like maybe team much for me. I I think with Steve Agrees and not that. I don't know if that's great coach. Well I mean I mean probably Never GonNa work for me again. I think if I show up the center with five grand and said team oh I need some lessons. Ah Fuck off you want with. The tricky serves didn't quite work team os advice. That wasn't a bad idea to kind of get me on You know throw me off my game and then served at the ceiling. Sure your mind. Did this a couple. There are a couple of underhand serves. I was trying to play tricks. Ended up going about twenty yards wide. The ball was long in that first game by the way I don't think so it was by the foot. We couldn't see you said you could. I could see that and that was he missed a couple of calls in. But that's fine. Let me do the best. He who was the empire experienced dachshund cargo fucking murder improved. If I lost initially Bowie penalize me a point in the match which you guys. You guys didn't pick up on what the broadcast missed. I was too poor to penalize away from losing the match. Blind Guy Guy stoned out of his mind. They'd call natives the anchor we'll give you the of the Prestige Guy. We had as an up when I was done afterwards. He was at the front desk taking people seeing them when they were signing into the gym on the best the e seem to be joking around. He didn't quite understand the gravity of the situation. I didn't know this real no. They didn't bring the kind of seriousness that you would expect. No from the Boston televised match from the boss from Center Boston. Open the lead George. Steinbrenner and Bruce Springsteen the tennis mash was at one thirty a little after. Yeah what did Scott Start Smoking. This was years ago. Can I say this you have. He Goes Steve Dr Steve Estimate if he was high and he goes. I do everything high right. I mean just the idea to say that to us. That is the second time you've brought it up. Did you have mentioned that. He said he was Do Everything did he get ready for the day down on the Cape Ripa Bong and then drive roads right now. Yes there's no question there's no question and I don't think the amount of time was between when he left the Cape and I think there was some in the parking lot as well keep in mind. This is one of these guys who was sort of in medium and they always have like. Yeah I WANNA do with Kirkman hand does yeah. This guy thinks he can communicate eight for a living right. It's speak Gilmore. Scott did we address the The new Tattoo Controversy Steve Robinson ferociously sleet denied Tattoo Gate. Really because it doesn't exist go great which I know you started back up. Though Erkki Yelling Dave Cullen is interacting with players. Now the heavy breathing breathing a him double-fault incipient emphysema catch it. He's not he's talking to me. I don't know but if you're watching it last night like hard to follow what the fuck is going on. Also the graphics weren't I would say we're not top notch. Yeah you know you need a little score update once in a while. Did you think that might of helped shrimps for viewer perspective over that you know. I thought it was funny when people were like Kirk is going to be so fucking pissed tomorrow. The broadcast I remember no score graphics. I was like I'm not sure. What data top level you know for the hardcourt tennis fans disappointed? They wanted to better broadcast. Maybe next time we'll bring a tennis expert. They also might have wanted a few competitive volleys. I I don't know enjoy watching you. Humiliate yourself like Tito Ortiz boxing. Terry I've Go name was colony was. I think it wasn't be mad that you guys. They thought I was going to stay on one side by the camera and everyone was going to like that Peres. New People would watch the fuck up. That's true that's not. This doesn't use true. I was the star ars. Just be honest. I don't think they really care either way. No that's what I'm saying right. I'll give owning over. I knew a be a really talking about overall OBI now is best move. Ironically was the worst move hiring Scott got almost like he should be criticized also praised but he didn't he he hired him he didn't I think he was going to be bad. Good right. He hired him singing the conversation we had. Is We want a real pro. When I Guy Twenty I? Yeah he's gotta be early. Twenty five imagine most we did say in heroin. Use Does age you a few years. He might be eighteen for like it was in the past. So maybe maybe twenty. Three conning turned on meter because he was like he's a hat you don't WanNa do it but he turned on my idea of. Oh we can do better than that. Ah How about Scott. No last name. Given Scott from Krakow's she's that's the funny thing about Kelleher is any no. No listen no you. I'm sorry not killer culinary. Yeah but I tell her. We'll be coming up because if you tell Culinan hire someone In the first person to reach out because he'll bring in someone says hey I can. I can instagram no question rick can play by plates. This Guy Scott no doubt. That's true so excited that people working for committed culinary never hiring a babysitter. No no yeah right off if you want if you WanNa do something weird to Conan's house offer to watch his kids because you'll be hired B.. Scott God well boa expected the Minnesota seem to like it. They had a good time with it. So calling guided up it exactly. The clock. He did was unbelievable. You must have worked very hard. I guess I mean he did. I mean and the payoff for him like what. What changes life -gratulations? Well some people are saying that. This sends a clear signal to Jerry Callahan's consultant Paul. No question you get the the fuck out of the wedges but yeah Jerry's big concern was what am i WanNa do a tennis match. Is he going to be able to broadcast it. We can show announcement number one if you'd like right now. ooh That aforementioned Gerry Callahan will be in studio in Tuesday way big announcement on the Kirkman the hand show. Yeah and then you you know for you Mike. It's a four day week. Okay Chris. So he'll be. Jerry will be here Tuesday with a big announcement so we'll see what that's about feeling Jerry left some gripes about must mouse. We'll see we'll see what he has to announce would they. What do you mean by that? They then I assume he's transitioning why that's a good question. Yeah well this is big enough bringing Louis bringing gave call name with him to to video the big announcement I would think that's the kind of thing they would like to do at Sp.. I'M GONNA guess related somewhat to his professional future. You would think I think without exactly knowing what's going on because Jerry why would you well is but truthfully I have somebody abuse and tell me everything's w say on the air all right. This is stepping on talk doorway ordway last night. And he's like you can't say anything talked to ordway interest. Jerry did you turn Jerry's now at the point where talks to just you know people from you know just talk about you. Don't don't think that has anything to do with the announced. No no no no no no no no no this is I think I know but I'm not sure he'll be in Tuesday. You can tweet out now. See if you'd like Gerry Callahan. Why in studio I think for the show on Tuesday? I assume that's the announcer. You're more excited about the yes. Well I mean we have other big announcement to which will announce. What were you talking about? Mike well we tease the yesterday. A little bit we did. Yeah well the one. I'm thinking of you know what the Hell you talking. You might be going in February. Oh not that. We're not there yet. Keep pushing back as much as we can. That's true yes so yeah Jerry. On Tuesday and then Wednesday I think mentioning because we can react to DC. With Eric Leonard Dini will be. I think Wednesday morning that Oh really. I think they're doing a Tuesday night so I imagine it'll turn it over to for some reason. I thought you said they were doing it tonight Friday night. No I think it's a Tuesday. DC Very DC. Very classy is all great journalists. Look at the questions I and I said all set I trust I trust you. It's good hope. It doesn't look at the questions I wanted to grill. That's true yeah that's right. I said yes I can say. She's a tough customer. DC Watch out. It's simply safe we've done. We've only one right good. You do it twice twice twice. A safe simplisafe dot com slash Kirk again. Played simple if you WANNA be murdered. It's your fetish or whatever. We went through feathers yesterday. Don't get simplisafe. You WanNa live a long healthy productive life Get simplisafe simplisafe dot com slash. That will protect every door. Your window room. Some say room is a room With twenty four seven professional monitoring. 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It should be used to be on that piece of copy and I have it here so it goes through the eighth. which is Sunday if you physically go to the location if you're in the Massachusetts area Burlington Massachusetts. This weekend is a big shopping weekend. I'm sure for Christmas. And we know the Brown tomorrow was always insanely mobbed to get away from their for lunch. Go across the street the Buffalo Lewa Wings and spend some money right there and helping unbelievable 'cause Ryan Balderas. Who passed away? He was a manager. Buffalo Wild Wings His son hunter his infant son. I think he's four months old. Is that right. Very Young His Education Fund Two hundred percent of the proceeds donated to that In Burlington so go there this this weekend. I've been and they're already make sure you go there as well if you get the chance to help out Hunter Balderas Education Fund Ryan's infant son. They have a bunch of great silent auction items. Also the Kirkman Eoghan show is donated. I mean you. Can you beat this a live Kirkman. Show we don't need that it's up on Ebay right now. Steve Walk me through the specifics. Would you The auction right now is over. Five thousand dollars so someone someone has been fought the high bid right now is five thousand five thousand six dollars right now so it's Yet it's five thousand six bucks if somebody's doing these five thousand dollars to for us to go and do a live show minder standings. I spoke to that person by the way. Do you know this no. They're in the state of Colorado. I saw that on twitter. Yes which could put could present some dip. Listen you sound respond people twitter last night. Yeah you do the bidding knitting. We'll go there. We're going to get there and one another. We will do your show. Wherever you'd like interesting to figure out we can figure recorded might be flying kirk out there and he'll just sit in your living room? Until tells him jokes not play some prostate. It was just say I have some friends in the Asian game of already stepped up and said Oh. Don't you worry Oh boy take care of you you guys but I'll be all set so I guess the big show announcement is So we have heavy very generous A friend of the show. WHO said they're willing to match every dollar up to ten thousand dollars? Horizon Beverage. Group has offered to match the high bid up to ten thousand dollars. Edible so I mean are great friends at Horizon Beverage Group and we know there's a bunch of fans there A few in specific a few specifically are willing to so if we get ten thousand dollars you're they will cut a check for ten. It's now twenty thousand dollars. We will raise twenty thousand dollars hunter. Balderas education funding us. Unbelievable unbelievable so if you donate ten thousand dollars you get to tell people yeah. I don't know twenty grants. Yeah I'm a great guy. Yeah so that's that's that's that's pretty great so we'll see how that goes going forward today. We're only I mean what twelve hours or something in were five grand. So let's get to ten thousand bucks if we can somebody can and we'll believe you'll get all the bells and whistles and now if you saw this shit I'm Mike I took the took the presumption presumption if it's okay with you and the Gary Family. I promise Mama Gear. We'll be at the event. I can't speak for you. I hope so that plays to her her. She was that excited about it then and she was. She's willing to do whatever it takes is my is my sources so there you go yes you will see what we can do. Whatever 'cause like this L. Work exactly pretend yes so if we can get to if we can get the ten grand unbelievable finger as twenty grand for this for this poor young guy? Who's WHO's dad passed away four months old and help and get his education awesome? I saw a bunch of people saying Oh why isn't barstool doing whatever ever it doesn't doesn't matter might take that as this Like if you like the show a lot. You're aware it's going on you know if you're willing to spend ten grand. I do a live show. We don't need deported. tweeted out like everybody everybody is doing. That is a leap fully in our world. Some random guy at they see whoever you know Dave tweeted out some guy from fucking I. Oh who's never followed us not going to be. Oh boy. I'm going to spend fifteen thousand dollars I got to come to. My house might not might not know what they're doing they might donate but then I think what the hell am I gonNA come to my house and whatever they want to do is fine but we. We've we've got it you know and it's not GonNa be this no victory laps. I hate post charity victory laps we just want to raise monies. We can't for this kid to go to school and make the poor with those wife or a girlfriend. I don't know the situation but the poor woman the father the mother of four hundred may little bit easier. That's all and that's what Scott tried to do this week at Buffalo Wild Wings in US so hopefully we can get to ten thousand match. We'll see channel. Seven is apparently going over to Buffalo Wild Wings to talk with Scott about the silent auction. So it'd be interesting to see if charitable endeavor somehow results in a little bit of good publicity Blissett for Kirkman said Steve. That's what it's all about a little bit of good publicity for me that's really ultimately we're trying to do. No I'm just I'm just interested in seeing how they make you ought to be the bad guy ignore which is fine. I don't care that's fine. We're just trying to raise much Doha's we can for For little hunters so there you go so go to tweet out the legal CATINA deal with somewhere on Ebay right. Yeah it's all over your age. Just follow Kirkman show on twitter and you can see the link there and if you know if you've got a friend and uncle a business owner anybody anybody who might be interested in this pass along spread. The word doesn't have to be a Minnesota wins the auction because someone who is interested in. How would you say show? We're at five thousand dollars. We're ten thousand dollars right now with the match ups so I mean you know it's going to be ten thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars bid ten thousand dollars for somebody to maybe potentially actually as this right now have us go in their living room. Chicken parm with the three cooked chicken parm cooked by a master chef. Which is true right shirtless I I will? I Will Cook Dinner. And whenever they want they'll be they'll be part of the experience to. That's how we're going to make this a nice personal it'll be never be broadcast anywhere else. We'll go in. We'll do whatever they won't bring a Shitload of merchandise will take pictures with whatever whatever the fuck they want. We'll do it. How happy would you be if someone came in? With a twenty thousand dollar bid from Panera. I Yeah Yeah I mean you know me I liked I liked. I liked that open road. So I'm Steve is not really for not a state winter. I think he thinks that's GonNa make things more difficult by like that. What I like is the idea of someone doing just inconven- try and inconveniences? Like ringing her. And Yeah and I mean I radically this time. We're actually donate one hundred percent of the money which is unusual for us. Let's not let's be honest but so So yeah that's pretty cool idea. We just kind of came up with out of nowhere in the middle of the show. We you oh of course but but you know it's it's if we can help at all. I think we're helping a little bit. That's pretty great. So we'll see how that we have a few days left on the bid right Three and a half goes through Monday Tuesday as yeah okay so I think we'll get to that ten grand. I think we want her own basically great. That's twenty fucking twenty grand and then you put that in a Interest earning account by the time. He's ready to go to school. It's big money. I mean today's college world a half a semester. Yeah that's a good question but yeah if you twenty grand then I think the man the fans. I think we're gonNA raise a nice when we get twenty five grand prediction that these people get to listen two US. How's it going to work while I was just wondering do I if we're not recording the show if it's for them only don't even bring equipment microphones? We're just going to sit in their living room. Michou ship for a little while experience. Why won't the headphones on for them? I want them to listen to some bad. Radio is a parody songs. All right I would like a couple of specific also put it this way. I'M GONNA throw this out there right right now for them Steve Murder Miyagi Mama. Gary's touched guy who I forgetting sees liar guy we're all gonna give you originally parody songs only for you. I am finding presumptuous but They give you get nice original songs that night and also the guy who is the. WHO's the guy who did to do at the other day? The woman sang thought. It was but it wasn't him. That was the guy who did this on the tennis song. Just now. Let's touch touch okay. That was his wife was singing that by the way yes little. Backup music for you. So those guys on yelp contribute music. Will I'm guessing the song that he did that. Presumes that I lost the tennis match was done after eight thirty last night. Probably probably not maybe a two versions though. Oh you know. What can I throw this wrinkle in they want the real live experience of us doing a show? Okay then I think it should be. We listened to songs with our headphones. That's right and they can't hear it. True we laughed to ourselves. Maybe some of that you see. So we'll We'll keep an eye on that and that so I mean that's that's pretty cool if I were able to do that and help out About little hundred dare and his family is as little as we're doing but But yeah so we'll keep an eye on that. We'll we'll have more on that on Monday and over the weekend so pay attention if you want to bid anywhere listen. I know you're listening to all over the place I mean I hear from different countries. You WanNa bid we're going to go. We're we've always always say fans in Australia Australia. We'd bids from Seattle last night bids from Colorado where we're going. We're going to go the fans in Ireland fans kids in Ireland's all over Europe you know we're in a Michael might have to get a passport. Write a grant could be the grand funk railroad. We're an American band. I mean we're an American podcast. We'll go anywhere. Where else can you give me? Some of that Steve can go back to hell year. That was song it would not work into these This will not come up on his computer. It's there's some sort sort of block on a song lengthen that's true. We have five thousand six to August. Steve You know Mike now before American the song for an American podcast sort. This summer's flip around here. This I leave leaving on saw. I don't know if I've ever heard this not in a movie. That's true. Yes that Iraq doc put me in a haze sweet sweet com do in Iraq because we could sing songs of groupies Komo Snide Dame or no. I'm amazed more rockstars. Got Off unbelievable so weirdest part of all things I guess. Because it's an people knew knew what they were doing. In a long as we make it to the show wherein American travel across the country will perform this podcast cast. That would also throw this in as well you get you get. I five minutes of the exotic more uncomfortable. The better five minutes of Mike You Doing. Stand up in your living room Fi. Would you have problem with hunter. Bald era do it. Yes how do we working on your content. anyways you're playing the Wilbur. Next year man. That's true. You realize this right right. You're playing the Wilbur. You're going to be on the stage. That Dave Chapelle Jon Stewart have been on all right. That's true I do some writing by minutes to longtime ten they stretch it lead me five minutes would be plenty long enough my material but my dad will work my way Mike in the living begin here like the coffee just the the spoons is stirring the coffee very quiet people just look at me. I'm just like yeah I don't know the leaving. Your Mom's there couldn't see the projector. I'm just doing the same jokes boy Idaho piece. I don't know whereas some of that to me. I said no UTA come on folks predictions on inner outside Massachusetts for for this prefer this thing in Massachusetts. I looked outside I predict. Do you have inside knowledge of this. I just I just know the leading bid right now. I don't know I mean I think it's GonNa the higher than that I'll say in New England but outside. Okay I would say that people who are going to drop ten fifteen twenty grand on something like this have a little bit more of a a decision making process discretionary income no decision making process like if a if a business for example if the local billionaire was going to do short this there might be a day or two of vetting it so I think we have yet to see the higher real. Yeah but if you're a real richmond efficient who just wants to have the toys come to their house and gets a play with them. It'd be funny. Who Was Murchison? Finally get them in my home Bucket do it. Just be quiet for a few months Bob. Your this Kim Suit Kirk unbelievable moment of reconciliation. That would be just sitting here watching you stand spins spins around in his chair when we walk. So they see you could've done play-by-play great hire awesome Scotswoman that bidding getting. I don't think no this is my guess. I don't think he's got that kind of the play by play guy. Maybe something's funding subsistence. I don't know what it is Yes so there you go. I think it's GonNa be I think there's going to be a fan. Who's got twinkle in his or her? I who knows I like the the random places and you're going to get that eccentric millionaire from middle of nowhere we can be a wyoming. Let's say let's say some. Let's say somebody from my only winds right Bins eighteen thousand. So obviously. That's twenty eight grand right so we're GONNA go of course do like a week's worth of shows there are something final studio. And just I mean mean record-tying fly back the same day or something. You can probably just set up an hotel room. I don't even think we need to find a studio. Jesus is saying we might have to do fly out on a Thursday to Friday. Yeah I think we wouldn't be doing our show probably be on a Friday night. Yeah I would guess I mean it's obviously there spend the money so we'll do whatever they want us to do but that'd be ideal for us right. I think I think I don't know who knows so for in someone's living room will we still do the tube glor- yes. It might prefer absolutely good. Steve Good points to it now. Do not a phone. This would spend much time on to yesterday. Let's see we got here. Steve The different Tube Gore night did yesterday which is another thing. I don't understand but that's okay that makes absolutely round and yellow absolutely makes no sense to me. If you're gonNA mean to bore page right now Steve Didn't probably did not understand the request yesterday. Because I think it was a little muddled I e. Yeah we got one submission. All right we hold off on that Good we could play it and you can comment on this. This is what you had in mind. One second we'll I'm not there yet. I want to take a look at the Women seem very attractive. Some of them of this woman in Gangbang video looks like she's about to go through hell. I can't imagine a gang would be a pleasant experience for the woman. She this. This is my so good. Don't send me video no tube glor- it's Tube Galore dot com that's Gore dot com slash Kirk ten episode your spirits Glor- Z. A. L. O. R. E. Psycho. Yeah I'm a different Tube. GLOR- comes up when I go to GALORE DOT COM. Yes I'm at two DOT com. We would you see you be yes to yes like a brown and Tan the whis now okay. So it's a mobile. You're looking at a mobile. What do you look? Oh you're on your own but yeah the same thing a bunch of different wife. Mom Big natural tits. Yeah at the same place. Okay all right where we going either. Seen this one before dirty talk. Okay I mean I can guess what that. Yeah can you. It stunned by it. I just never seen that particular category before make sense and it's central casting but I just didn't argument dirty talk. Would you what. I'm seeing a couple of options. That look like they might be for Eljay Really Jesse a woman so I go by popularity. That's they haven't ranked by here. You just want to jerk off to what other people are jerking off too. I want someone to talk to me this way. This way he looked at that seems like a potentially be good ninety. Two percents thumbs up. I mean I don't know no comments as disappointing. She's in the bathroom by the window. Money and standing over in what you think. It's real south village suckled fuck up your wife or whoever it is sleeping in your bed. Do you like it when they make you up. I lean in the morning. No it's it's it is it sounds terrible fuck it produced a fifth woman. I don't know about the ten line. But she's the she's got the DC titties. Yes Tom Perfect in the center of the I don't K- keep imagine why that would get you off just depends on fetish right at this time. They're speaking of titties. Did you see the Willie Cologne thing I sent you. I did. I noticed that the other day God. What's her name? I don't even know what her name the one that's been on. KFC radio a lot lately. The what's her name not the erased us. KFC KFC will soon be DC's co host. So that doesn't serve. That's GONNA be real battle for WHO Radio Jesse Roads Jab. You've seen her. She's been no she didn't answer the I think right yes she. That's what was up on the official Barstool Sports. INSTAGRAM put out a picture of her. With the answer. The Internet she has large breasts and Nipples in the photograph. Yes they fully erected rights really Cologne. You're talking now. I've seen it new talking talking to quit Willie clone who always goes to the seventh level. Humor said what's like the headlights are on. That kept her headlights on. I see and then she basically kind of explained the situation right and then you pussy about what a Pussy Pussy Cologne here. Just a Rhodes replied. My nipples are almost always hard. But I generally don't wear a bra unless it is to be appropriate at the gym. In which case I usually wear to shirts because wearing bras are extremely painful for me. Most of the time I have severe shoulder and neck and back issues that prevent me from wearing them for extended periods of time but hey if people are offended by my nipples we have bigger world problems. Essay Cathy's clone too much but that seems like an excessive response agree but the agree with you often but my my issue is really colognes response to it. Yes I played ten years in the NFL and all types of fucked up. So I get it I have have no problem with your nips whatsoever. Gorgeous Woman Barstool. We throw shots for fun. Some folks like it however I don't I don't want any smoke. Ll if you're ever back at HQ we would love to have you are so fresh. Rice greis changed a lot. He sees perfect perfect. Two thousand nine hundred employees now. Two thousand seventeen barshop employer Cologne perfect. Jesus Christ Willie Cologne has changed in. Barstool is not exactly perfect pussy. God you pussy she. WELL WE GET Steve. It looks like Richard Sherman might have bailed out Tim. Ryan didn't do much. I response though it was fine. I mean you kind of so we set really like hey we'll be. Does that happen. A little different for him to come out and say it. I think that that helps him right. It helps turn it into a I have tim ranchers get dummy but guy go in there and like apologize and such shithead but yeah that's I mean. Also the idea this was. I was thinking of made me think of when Tom Brady. Bill Doubt Reamer when he made the comment about his kidney sorted them opened. Yeah Yeah who who but why do we. Why don't we wait for an athlete to tell us like? Oh Yeah it's alright. He Guy I don't think any of us were waiting for that. I think there's a in the sports media. Journalists have Richard Sherman. Come out and say okay. We don't have outraged the winging say. He's probably not a racist projects. Make off-the-cuff comment when Richard Sherman says it's like Oh okay now but they don't syringes combat. Either they're just trying to talk about shit. And so if Richard Sherman comes out and says I think you should. It'd be fired. Then they can go wild and all he did that to be so fi. Big fucking Boehner's like great. Let's let's now get the stakes was ruined this guy's life what's firearm. What's getting you I mean I always come on Sherman's say why suspended on Sunday? This is stupid. Like what changes. Yeah they because he's not calling the game and he's this moment of clarity or something like what happens it. I mean there's also an element of like. Oh a black guy said it was no for sure for sure. And somebody who's kind of you know people think is smart and all that stuff go to Stanford Right. Yeah I like Richard Sherman outrageous. Tom Brady came and tried to defend him. Ryan Oh what are the hat back. In in your locker he stuff would come up and you had like brady bail rimmer all man. I'm going back a few by hanging up on us. The Big Story Big Fund baby then an hour if he said interesting this year. I mean you're seeing a little baby boy. Oh Boy Oh God just I mean like the little pouty face I I have to deal with like if asked him a semi tough question. People Love Brady. I get it. He's the best football player ever. He's also a real fucking baby. Sometimes and I know you know people now tweet immediately eighty pages you've like. He acts like fucking baby. I would say well my only thing is that if he said I am media David you said no comment or whatever then rewarded gun fired. I said I don't worry going to stay on the phone. Like an adult with me. Yes and said hey an acting instead of acting like he's you know throws a fucking football emmy Sangley probably pissed at the time. I don't know Geeky ECHINACEA. That was on our show. You've been on our show for years you know. We didn't send our show so like what are you mad about. Yeah and by the way. PS S. P. S.. Don't put your fucking kid in the documentary. That was weird. Then we have no issue not. I'm not saying the one that he was making out with the other one. You understood at the time I was trying to play ball. I wouldn't do that now. I'm embarrassed that they didn't tell me the fuck off. Did anyone accused him of homophobia. My Mail is son. No I'm talking about going after outnumbered all. That's why maybe that's why the next week. He kissed his lips. I don't know twenty five minutes or whatever it was after that I think the episode was after that because we talked at the Super Bowl because I told Jerry Jerry was never kissed Harry the lips. Whatever 'cause my kid no lips Brady You know embrace on human being again. Great quarterback best ever not now but best ever But I saw somebody play the clip. He was on one of these these on e. or something talking about his the other day talking about these weird fucking stuffy does it. Looks like look. Brady's a pretty good example of how that being that famous changes you and makes you feel your heartbreaking man. I don't know if that's true for everybody for him. I mean the rock seems like I mean. Brady's Brady's a very nice guy ever seemed like more of a regular guy when he was very young married something every fashion which is all fine stuff and the a good dad and a good guy and a great quarterback and all that stuff. But the idea that you can't can't call for being sensitive well hung up hung up on me like three times four times. We talked because he wanted to talk with Alex Guerrero. Well well can't have a both ways in my opinion now began now which is again fine but you know I always thought Brady was super sensitive. It could be both. It could be a nice guy a great player. NBC percents that. If I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing but you know I don't know it's also Brady's not in a world where he doesn't eat right might not even deny sensitive. Yes I see what you but he also wants to have his ass kissed all the time. So that's why you know. My show is not there anymore. Why Jim Gray interviews? He goes on. He doesn't want to be ask tough questions. which is again okay? Yeah but you can't be like Obama Warrior. Well are you like you know you get sensitive and people ask you tough questions right which is disappointing. 'cause Brady so good at avoiding questions questions that I think he could be asked tough questions and not know how to give an answer that will give them trump settling. He's the smartest people think. He is either now. I think people attach intelligence great quarterback. Yeah well there's GonNa be a an intelligence to how he's definitely managed his brand because most people don't share the opinion that you have him he stayed out of. He stayed out of a lot of things. Yeah I think he's a nice guy. Got Any trump like the exactly the dull interviews with you or strategic for him because he's looking post. NFL career at some. You Know Don kind of business I think but I also nice again this argument Jerry all the Time Jersey the TB twelve brand. Be Huge Mike will know and by way. It's not right now. The people of these twelve popping up all over the place because he's too weird. It's a two-week relatable. He's Weird Kara's weird. The whole thing seemed scientology. ISH IF YOU WANNA walk into one of those places. I'd be creeped out. That would be more much much more and I I like both those guys like I mean i. I have some issues of Guerrero. But he's been very nice to me and I like Brady. I know people are GonNa take this. I actually like them. But they don't seem relatable as human beings in any way shape or form or does yoursel. It's just a different planet. You know yes I agree with that they just I hate to interrupt the Brady eighty talk. But there's a mystery of foot that was there's been a re tweet from the Kirkman and show account and it wasn't either of US really wasn't me was re tweet. The long goodbye from CAMAS quotes what. He's don't know closest retire. So it's I mean come on so we've you gotta I mean come on a great account. Got Him each kid you that she's but if you skip if you skip to the the I guess about three thousand words in to this statement quote it says Psi S.. I started the Albright Shit. Moh a fraud for not crediting me. Well now he's just trying to throw us off the trail. Obviously he come on. Why already mentioned that one? Thank Kirk forgetting countless today. Thanks to D Kellie Martin. Baby Willie Sensitive Nate Konta Marco. Six Seconds Can Shave Boring Tommy's folks and everyone in between account under people's skin like no other I mean does it sound like you've read. He's reading it's there's no rhymes uh-huh that's true true God damn it. I liked that account. Yeah that's honestly that's a much bigger loss than than HP to say it isn't that why would he tro try and throws off the scent by throwing in the image beating at the end and then tweeted from the account. While we're doing the show I think he's. I don't think you try to throw the I think he's he's admitting things don't you little trademark. It would seem to be well. coning still has the password to the account doesn't he Maybe coning. I don't think he's tweeted anything now. But that's not calling you know that Statham. HP GOTTA BE. That's the same. Wouldn't do that without us. Tell same form of the note to. It's the same exact thing. Wow Yeah it's a major became as quotes was MHP who Jesus Breaking News. Now wait a second. This makes this weird because if I remember when Cullen was looking for yeah most areas way interaction with me it was gonna became as quotes and then came as quotes that. I have a job in springfield. I can't make it out there so came as coach. Just fucking with Colon Indian. Yeah Yeah I mean. It's not that hard. I know it's not hard to do but it's weird to do that was but seven fucking around with him like that for sure. Seems on brand to me so this is all very sounds like we need another Mike Gary Invest Investigation. I say we need though is we need we need whoever was. MHP hand account over and let's surreal fans. Of course that's a valuable account and you have to have the right temperament like hp did to know what things that tweet to Piss people off to get them talking. Got Re tweet by Donald From Junior. Can't start the came as a a an account you can retire whenever he wants. Shit Kalli K.. Misquotes as lives lost the show. You can't quit six months. It's pretty much show property. I would say I only two three thousand followers like it's a real thing who's very good. Dig Zucker Junior. Yes so it was definitely Yeah it was definitely. So how are we. I'm GONNA handle this. Well I mean you could just text. MHP and ask for the Password. or I could. But he's not responding to my messages nor mine this Camp Dick Ossie sort of Dick Dick move a little bit like it's fine if you WANNA do it. He wants a handed off the somebody else. But you gotTa do you have to let the person do the start some new account again. That's a pain in the ASS. I'll tell you what this means to me is that image B. is making a comeback. Think I think he's stirring up a little controversy that it might be too obvious retweeting. We'll say that is accusing lonely. Move I was time. Do you think he spent strategizing somebody who needs some good point. What do you put out the first statement from the real? MHP account do you think he had this in mind as the game the long I think he got in this happens all the time I talk about this almost daily he got a little. You know the person the woman the other day we don't speak of anymore you heard much from her last couple of days she. She tweeted yesterday. But I'm saying but you're GONNA love this. She tweeted yesterday tagging me a link to a story in the new our show but again no reaction. Because I'm not swing at the pitch actually be honored right work arounds it. Yes exactly but you know it may be did his thing for a day and got a nice little round of applause. But you know what happen. It's Kinda cold outside. The Sun rose again without him. mm-hmm right life goes on people have their days and he said wait a minute. Let me do something else that can get those kind of poetic. The way you described that what do you mean the Sun rose again thou him that so let me take days as the daisies rise prepared a little poetry lose. That's true the Sandwich get eaten and he thought well thank you and I thought well you know what can I do. I get nothing. I only got one bullet left in the gun. CAM as quotes. Do the same thing again now. I think he's got a few more bullets left often the gun. Does he have for other accounts. See the domino. Effect of retirement. Kirkhill Zachary's ball would kirk burp. Says he's going away going to quite like we're moving slowly down here to the point where it's like Oh hp who's actually running thousands of parody account. It's actually not amazing at all. What we should do is just edit all of us out and realized that Joe go back and say Oh? My came as quotes is retiring and have a real serious ceremony and like we're all sad and we actually am sad though. This is invaluable companion to the show. I agree I'm missing it. The last it's it's a real trouble acre. That's why I'm HP's a born troublemaker. Handle it that you can't take the heat conditions out. That was a great dish without spot if it is an. HP confirmative affirmative HP. He's the perfect guy for that. Can you even be replaced because Dan by somebody knows who to tag. What was saying? You need somebody who gets the show. Yeah Yeah So. There are candidates for sure but I'm willing to work with him on this. If we're going to hand this title over to somebody else. They have to be diligent every single day and have to know the right temperament and who the piss off and who the tag all that stuff that you need a proposal to see. If you're open to it digs sucker is rumored number. Two have been run by a number of people. Is this going to be handed over to Louis. I'm fine with that through we. Have we know who they are. We can trust them. Yeah I mean I think I may be owes owes us that or we'll just docks the fuck out of nothing about we'll ruin his life. I mean that's what I would say joy your new job because it'll be gone you know we'll make shit up but you know handover that account. Maybe this is some sort of you. Know if he's trying to trying to challenge US hand over the account or the Epstein flight records are coming Magnum. Yeah I mean I. It's it's upsetting that's upsetting quite a quite a couple of days here Luke. Kenny negation never ends. Tyrants unbeliev never it literally we never ever ends ever seen. How's that book going or do you drop it done done? Yeah Yeah I think that's a good conversation. Yeah next week maybe yeah I think so okay. So here's what you got wrong POW. So I mean how we ham of US forget the more poorly Epstein stuff. This came as quotes thing. Yeah well you should probably text and say hey. Can you hand over the passwords. We'd like to keep that account going and here's what we do if we don't don't we say dig sucker startling our show because I know he's a fan he's dig. Zucker said the reason. I don't quote Kirkman shows because the K- Amos quotes account does a good job. So he wants to play hardball. Oh say sucker Europe any kind of Calling these already Say they'll pick up the mantle so we'll see really Jeez recall Mitch me give them a call the answer. No no Johnny Unser. Not doing a singer he doesn't you know re- pretends it's not him. I could just get to the show. I have a feeling there might be a historic. All comes back to find. It was an expose them mccollum. I Dunno chance come on John. I've got to believe in you know. He knows his character can't do this. That's when I realized my friend was is really gone. I guess I just wasn't coming back She said he seemed shaken. I I think it's important I don't know I think he's a porcupine to the show. He missed it the last couple of weeks. We need an air tight replacement plan. I know the secret my ever is good but I might nominate Patrick from the discord makes sense that you met him use their yesterday the VP. Yes that yes. He was at the core content. Like the I like him I like him. I like I like the guy in focus. Let's say word around me though. We'll get nervous around. Yeah I don't know what not even nervous. People know you don't want to necessarily they're doing you a favor by being nonchalant kind of ignoring what is the correct instinct All right four years ago A little ooh families had. We're GONNA get the cheese business and what a moment that was for us for the chauffeur everyone Smith's country cheese England's everyday artisan cheese In Western mass award-winning farmstead cheese. Anything you want any kind of cheese you on whatever are you want you got it. This is a Web site W. W. W. Dot Smith's country cheese DOT COM. Click on the shop tab when you do that You get and use the code kirk ten percent of all gift boxes. We've seen them all over the place and socially this week they seem overwhelmed with the response. Yes they do I actually. 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Yeah you're kind of always little shorter. Breath elevations sickness but people did the hotel they were handing just curl up and gone home. Fortunately Mike's not here. Now he died but listen he made a donation seventy thrill. Great Seventeen Grand. I mean we're here. What a memorable show? We're going to be five thousand. Are Minihan suggested the bid might go up if we say I am and by the way did I saw there. Were more any bit updates hurtful. I'll check right now. And then they were actually not on the air so it's quite a telephone. It's an interesting strategy. Telephone selling your own coulds too weird man people would do that still at five thousand six five thousand six dollars right now. I pretty by the end of the day. We'll be at that number one recently. Seventy five hundred. I think we're going to beat. Ed means summonsed and I'm assuming that means someone offered five thousand five dollars that sheep thirty eight hundred pretty fast. It did mm-hmm yeah so all right what else do we get. Steve and the other songs would you wanted to play that parody thing the porn parody. Yes so this was a curious what they came up. You said you said you wanted minivan porn at the end of the show yesterday. I didn't really know what the fuck you meant by that. I say every some there was some confusion as to what the orders were well. You seem the you've seen the thing I need to walk these people through hold their hands for everything right whether direction I wouldn't be creative wanted to get a couple the fans together in in in film scene where you're fucking fine by gets more kind of bringing the characters in having some fun right that's all. I'm just trying to be creative if it doesn't work out now let me. It'd be like the songs of the prank phone calls. I get it you know but I'm sure they give them a chance to sort of you. Know spread their wings a little bit. Maybe they're not going to do good. Well I guess we'll get an example here. It fit rage. Se Returns to the scene in the crime. He likes is with his mortal enemy. Debbie is he in dippy ravage each other over a better steak fries. I haven't encountered this. This isn't working for take more than a man's voice man's raspy voice. I thought it'd be Kinda funnier if you know guys playing Stephen. The woman's playing right and they sort of do do that thing and as much of inside job I had but I mean that's that's a big production I respect. It's Russia seal match. I arrive at one PM on Thursday in my usual tennis lesson. Smell the GRA talkin surprise a matches already going on. I decide to sit in the bleachers and watched the two men in a heated exchange. I shift around on the bench arching my back to get comfortable. It does not take me long to recognize the first man. Oh my God. It's podcast. Jesus small tingle of excitement Russia's through my body day the second man looks a bit uncomfortable when kids suffered a back injury during a football game as as I watch podcast. Jesus intensely swing his racket. My focus goes from the grip of his hands to the strength of his arms. Yeah well even the sweat on his body my hand has moved up my inner thoughts and now thanks Jason to millier rubbing motion no longer worrying about being described by the way skirt. Curry's I'd get so robbins. Wait a minute what's going on here. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm not able to self lubricate and my curse has saturated my fingers using my other hand hand I rub over my palm size titties pinching proportionate and centrally located a have. You always feel the clients those kind of talking about Isis. Go see in my mind. It was more interactive. This woman woman. Fine Oh man right in that guy is also a character. Yes yes but that's sort of some of the spirit of the second was certainly better than the first though Stephen that yeah I I would agree. That was good. I'm hard okay necessarily. She's a big fan of yours but that's okay see now now you know maybe that's part of. Maybe that's what gets Steve Off. That's true yes humiliation exactly something else it. Did you see the story about billy. Yeah I'm confused by it. I don't know so so there's no confusion on his part so the thing is he did this interview and he did one of these. You know these Hollywood people they want to sound mystical and like they're they're deep and so he said he's he's the feminine and he's The masculine and he's just talking Shit and social justice where twitter picked up on this God. He's gender fluid gender fluid one of us. One of us is so they're celebrating eating to mind. Yeah so they're celebrating this as a cultural all icon a big victory for the LGBT Q.. Movement and then the undefeated asks him about it and says so. What's the thing about you being gender fluid and he's like what the fuck does that? What the hell is gender fluid terms undefeated last week type but the man getting in touch with the feminine side of themselves shocking at an eighty two year old man wasn't gender fluid? We're going to be up in arms about this now. IS HE GONNA get shit for this now. I think he's got to do. What is the apology? Come in I mean you know by the way we need to see Billy Ludi Williams in the Star Wars movie. This towel dry. I guess he's fucking eighty two years old but that's how he would've tracked with the right. I Williams coming out. What do you mean he should be older? Yeah I understand that but his character like daddy wants them. CGI on them know the characters heartache. Sort of like this wacky sort of you know rebel. Pirate kind of guy and they've got to find the one that's still alive. What do you mean if they're going to bring back a character from the original film? It's still alive. Well Mark Hamill still always dead in this in this series. Okay all right I. I did that. He'll be in this next one to bring disembodied no BS voice. You're up for this movie. Steve No yeah. Are you really. Yeah of Cour- soon. I Love The star wars movies and at least least surprising news ever. Oh He's going to be good. Oh No it's not beyond low confidence though. The last two have been terrible able to make the Primo Asanka. They make the prequels look. Excellent the last two year including like The Donald Glover one and that type of Shit I think he's been the the franchise right. The rogue one was excellent but the ones the episodes the last two episodes have been not really. There have been two Cents Force Awakens or is that one. That's that's one of this. You know which there okay. There's passed it was the first one. It was a good remake of the original movie. was they did a good job. They got they got me worked up with rogue one because that was so excellent and I thought that this kind of modern generation of star wars films would be would meet that High Standard D.. You see by the way weighing in telling the court to get over himself is real the yeah I think. DC is definitely pissed. At if I can put my own. He's not told me this. I mean the sad tim out the stuff. Ms Cameras quotes. Guy Can just walk you through this for a second great angry. We're talking a colon. Poland December fifth one December third one quote December. Third Show to court. Why do it all the bunch of December second into woman December? I what are we doing like you know you want you want. If you want it go get it. And also December first and second weekend so it means he's today that's okay the original guy. Would you that once you can be a little high but if you want to tell you want the throne you want go get it. Don't be this. I mean I'm not GonNa read this bullshit. No you're not kidding you know so I feel dirty retweeting. The other the new K.. misquotes account. I don't like that either kit which one there's is one yet you talk to. That's what I'm talking about. Oh you're saying that's WHO's do I think you were saying I got you. I thought you were saying that. You know that's the thing I thought you were saying. Even the last days of came as quotes were pitiful. Oh no that's true too. Yeah but I mean this guy is like he's right now just tweet those. Do I get the vote of approval. Now No asshole no definitely not no I need ten fifteen quotes show right. I mean minimum. John Camp Quotes Guy. Would you know in sometimes to be delayed. Because he WHO's working and I respect that but he would find. It's not really if you listen to the show. It's really not that hard right like if it was a show every day you pick you. Stop a specific moment moment. You saw. That's interesting you fuck. You have to go back fifteen seconds. Where do you cause trouble today? Already Willie Cologne talking about some girl's Nipples true that little segment right there. There's going to be a nugget it in there. That could cause a little bit of Cologne or at fucking. Tom Brady whatever you know. Whatever you WANNA do whatever but point is like it's also I think in those companion piece like I said for the publishers of the show the kind of check in and say Oh this or that but I'm alone again? It's sort of that MENA fan you know like a debacle thinks thinks the things. We came quotes K.. Marco True Tommy smokes true chaps. You went out with KFC a couple of times cave. See Donald Trump junior recaps. Yeah it's so we'll see Kelly Martin probably wouldn't hate us is why I think he might still eight us. Yeah probably the way they knew from them and you knew from that crowds. You know know. Why are you saying that because that's that's That that the tone in my voice describes drives my overall relationship with parcel really given I give and I try and I try. Don't doesn't matter. I don't want you I get the Kirkman hands stink on. No thanks. That's true you do. It's all over over. You could never get you know you could never lose that. Tony and I can say this with. No fear of cameras quotes getting me. They just don't like we're we're the NERDS. They don't understand US undertake but they don't at the top of the list of if there's ever if there's ever a workplace shooting where the number one suspect Stephen L. Would see specifics but boy there was some rough claims or worries maitland. Levy by some people who worked at the other day on the phone with you that you remember that you send me on the phone involving gangs and activities. He's and stuff that I think is troublesome concerned with the way you're doing ad reads. I think some people might not understand. This is a show. Oh so I'll be. I'll be clear because I don't want them to be uncomfortable for here. We shut the fuck up in cell. You idiots that's what I would say to them. Shut your fucking mouths shut shut up. Shut up shut up. Now you advocating gang violence and you said I am not no no no. I'm not advocate. Anybody why the by the way the irony is is the mini offense or a peaceful group of course gives Shit. They do vigil for Crasnick. Did do some fun needs to be. You know a good hearty group but they do their the thing and they leave you alone. They like our show. Listen the show the consumer afraid of this lazy bunch meaning. The reality is actually they fucking by the products. We advertise to the point. Where you know we? The advertisers are coming back. I mean I don't know I'm probably the most charitable guy in the mirror right now definitely. We are up to five point three K ratings. So we've got about four four hundred ratings surge since we announced a bad man with a jerk off motion. That's why I think that a lot. The old no funny break that out for special occasions shut my neck like that guy in the rental video. Five point three wild congratulate. Let's say that that it should be assured by the way. Congratulations yes. Get that up with Steve's face the is against you. Oh congratulations the old comic. Congratulations but that's the face. Ace right there okay. The Oh when do we do. We get to change the twitter Avatar so as not my face whenever something comes up as recently we more relevant than that tennis match. Maybe there wasn't a great. You know I mean not a great takeaway from that from from viral pictures visually perfect. Yeah thank thank you laying down on the after your victory exhaust clashing picture of that though that because they decided to make serve grainy looking good. Direct to`real instinct. Yeah Yeah you can't really see anything which I like is consumer of a product. I thought it was weird. When he was smothering? vaseline gasolene overall the lenses before the show it was a strange move your colony. It'll be in here Tuesday with Jerry question. Yes I I think you know by. Now he's walking. No God no I want to be a great moment when colonnade walks into Jerry's like fuck are are you doing here. That was younger like they would do. These things to set up spin offs like Episode of all in the family they went to mods wedding thing. Archie and edith. And it was just arching. We're going to our cousin. MODs wedding they walked in there and just turning the whole episode of Maud to spin off in the mud. It's essentially with Tuesday's GonNa be it was just giving the Gerry Callahan. Calling and spinoff show try. We'll see how they do. I like it. I think it's a wacky couple couple but I'm only doing this. Show here Steve. I don't know if you have a problem with the guys for for that. Not a problem at all like I said I mean it was basically just going to be a huge pain in my ass. You're lost pal. Yeah they want to do it. They don't WanNa do it. Yeah do you have any other side with everything. How's this strong business instincts to go from the place that you would be able to get set up for free and have huge crossover publicity from your former co host to a place where you're going to pay and get fewer opportunities to across sober true? Do they think that they're going to get Kirkman. Hand Schlep over dollar a minute studio. No I told you I had a strange babies first guest after that. If you think and I'm going into Boston to do some show which was do I am not what I'm saying. Well they say I couldn't quite hear you are gonNA listen to. Oh good I miss misheard. I'm saying if you add up all the episodes to get two thousand episodes then you know it's GonNa be a hard sell for me to do that muck and why I got one guy who's going to be listening to the Gerry Callahan. Show go ahead. Jerry sure uncle Michael Hair with another Christmas song. Oh Good and God received re Carla Hand that saying in your way you think that Christ Jar Arce Vera hates them. Fancy Games you show with Mike Mutnansky that may does Ron no way. Oh He's a teams are high higher than your Kings kings are high risk. Gerry Callahan you as low radio U. N. from Riding Dino to Ching off of car and now we are working with Dave colored. Nee Na no tenant fucking juicer soon you be like Mike Brooks in red just begging surrise. Okay in your lucky to work with Jim and artery that ratings king now chokes on fitzy wants you were an unstoppable but you didn't have as back. When he went crazy was stock in in McLean keys? Eighteen are high higher than yards. All fucking Shit. You know Michael proof that you don't necessarily need to have the greatest lyrics grip that was that was that was forced to make you laugh. Rhyme groceries for something Marjorie arthritis close enough. We'll play hopefully over new song Jerry on Tuesday uncle Michael was using the same. Mike's that me and Scott. I wonder if a twenty eight year old guy who can do that or something like that. Seems like an older guy who the fuck with that. It's an older guy. Listen Jerry doesn't seem like a fake Irish intersex older guy with an Irish accent. Who is older? Listen to this podcast in as the ability to do that is very unusual. I mean it does sound like you kind of just recording into his phone or something. I'd still say though you know that's better than some of the parodies we've got. This guy is a second level star. But he's a he's he's in that top ten or fifteen. Would you put him. Would you say Kevin from Bristol that level. Yes yes okay Kim bristles been quiet lately. 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Yeah there you go well she she got which girlfriend which girl don't worry about that She'll be on making them in effect this weekend. We Have Alba. Aj and bikes with Milton's DOT COM by the way slash twenty percents off. We now have all three women on on. No album will not be either okay. This is Saturday this is just for me and the two girls and then it'll be there. Oh Yes yes. We'll have some other guests here lately. You good you're also you're begging was the lineup. People people are clamoring who we got Mafra providence beyond the Vice Chamberlain Presume Secretary of State. Yes okay sure are a minivan. Okay Rich Mandarin okay. And I believe there's another guy who wanted a shot never I don't know anything about him He's a wild card. We should we let him up. WHO's that there's Anthony? You know. Now there's a lot to get in the show you just just strong many process people down. I will say there are some times in the past where you get booked worked for a show like on Fox or your boss gets books on Fox and then last minute they say sorry. got a bumpy. Something bigger came up. It can happen. When did that happen? Oh I'm sorry people that were already I know but people have asked to get on. I said listen groupies on this. We get back to another time. What I'm saying is so big? Let's say HP reaches out blindly. It kind of fits. Because I bet she does but both just say. HP reaches out to you three forty five sorry afternoons says I want I want. I wanted to my city our gun I want to myself breath me and you mono mono for an hour. I think what I would do in that case as I might have a three hour. Shoot really preposterous well. I can't deprive these people which they have to give yet you'd have to give into that certainly and he says he wants alone. Yeah there are a few people that would definitely understand first first of all. I think it's but you think Israel DC retention. I think so. Yeah I think that's kind of Shitty DC very much. That's not was justified. Because he's upset about it it'd be just as a professional. He takes the shit seriously. He's a good guy. This guy I mean obviously you know has his own issues of of course. He's a pervert. But he's a nice guy but they worked together and there I think they've established a real friendship. I would think so. Yeah in the isn't reach out to him and and all that seems very that you're the fuck master even me. He threw a text. Is Everything alright he goes. Yeah my call and then never did I. I don't know DC even even got that if DC. If Mitch doing re blocks doesn't let us open that that's going to get any guys can really tell it's going to bother me. Oh that's going to be an issue we'll be making We'll be making a trip down to Oak Grove Pennsylvania. Yes we certain company. Oh boy certain office. They certain Bhagat throw to South Street. Is that true. Just making that up. I've never dachshund before on the show. She's we do have a challenge that we can announce what's that We decided I think that the people of the two spots that aren't for grabs the fishing trip. Yes that we've we've got the rules of the condition of the competition. Those rules the three of us in Tex- chain exchange although the rules it did. Yeah okay. I know officially hammered out calling on fans who want to get one of the last two slots on the matter WASCO ice fishing trip. Oh yes we're not ever both spots. Oh just woke another Yeah I think I think we should keep to yes are you talking about the INSTAGRAM's so one one spot is up for grabs submit. A sixty second video could be you telling us why you are vital to the Strip or otherwise entertaining us but whoever gets the most creative as you want even sixty seconds or less it's just as it is but it can be us so sixty seconds or less we're going to post it to the official Kirkman show instagram page. Whoever gets the most of us will win that one coveted spot right Kirkman hand ice fishing exponential that Instagram minihan underscore curtains grim Kerman? Show twitter. Handle sure that's not the handle things. Sam Graham Dot com slash Kirkman. Pretty Much brand uniformity. Sounds wrong me but okay listen everything you guys to try mind first and then sure is fine so they so they can do whatever they'd like like it doesn't necessarily even have to be like. Hey I wanna go this. Be Anything on anything. Creative right it'd be prostate exam. Hand job I mean it could be sure I guess I mean sure. Put his a lot of us. How do we choose the winner of that? It's pure purely most views but that seems like it'd be manipulated. No most of us in twenty four hours. I don't know with it. Sucks thing the window multi most people are GonNa have to show how that sucks to show how adept they are at the social media. Somebody might submit a video the ova dear crashing through a barber shop window this. That's fine. I'm open to that idea how this idea the people who encourage most people to unfold following instagram account. No that's okay. Just try to calculate it. It's tough it seems like if we get the right people we could figure that uh-huh that'd be wise too much work that would be the social media equivalent of asking you know whoever can come burner studio down. They go on the trip fine with that. I mean okay folks get ideas. Well finally whoever whoever can cut out Kirkman Larynx is going to be able to go on the trip. And I think this goes without saying but it has to be your video right. You can't find a viral video that we just haven't creativity here and I mean it. Just be very clear because I know the other people will rightly. Be Angry about this. You have earned the right to purchase a ticket yes craven. We're giving away tickets. Because everyone had to pay for their seventy five bucks some whatever we don't do anything when get little tastes. Wonder no I'm not trying to be transparent as possible chat cash or bank check. Yes I prefer to Kirkman with Manhattan. I said before the cash. So it's a one minute video or less or less sixty seconds Max and it's just basically we're carte blanche you can do whatever you want. Yeah Yeah long as you think it will give you the ideas. We kicked around or explaining why you're vital to the trip. I don't know if that's going to get views. Just show your tits. I don't know I don't think we need that. Only the top up. Some Guy's GonNa hire some girl. The shore boobs that guy's GonNa win. So do we want to say that. Only the star of the video is is is Allowed we'll see how it goes. It's your little. We'll let you guys handle it. If you play the game you WANNA play the sex trade game so forth Kirkman showing instagram's right Kirkman show. Yes the one time you pronounce correctly. Mike and Mike was kidnapped. Subscribe and download and Swipe Wipe whatever the fuck you WANNA do. So they Kirkman shows today. That's that's that's an interesting one then we'll figure out the I think the other one's going to have to be more humiliating. Okay okay for the fine. That's GonNa be for the finals. Bought fought on the trip. D'Amato Oscar which is looming by the way like a book and fungus is looming. We are now two months away like a fungus. Yes two months loom. Yes two months away to find some of them lose right arm wrestling isn't it. Isn't it February seventh that no one author who are seventh and Eighth December eighth super six two months away the moral my goodness Jesus just like that it any updates on that steve some stuff. We can't share there is Definitely progress going on few surprises up our sleeves. I think it's going to be an entertaining evening. There's one thing I did want to ask you is can ask me every like foreshores. How do you feel about live music at the show? What do you mean the show that we're doing? If certain musical performers wanted to do some parody songs up there. Is that something you'd like to say for the Wilbur. I kind of had a safe for the we'll burn. Yeah I would say well. Yeah I don't want to say with pride them anything but you know I mean the wilburs next. It's going to be I wanNA over some of the ideas with Steve. Last last night Mike include. Mind your for the open Which I think is GonNa why we don't think it'll be special? We don't want to bring on the air have some I- i- ah. I'm choreographing this entire show right. Don't WanNa tell me which makes me wonder if I'm involved in some. I'm saying all you need to go million fashion. No no nothing so all right what you say Steve Well He. He does have to do five minutes of standup humiliate. It'll be a little pro by then though. Yeah walk out there at eleven hundred people and you stand. Let's say this little Alex Joe really sympathetic crowd. If it doesn't go will be daddy grabbing big it might be doing five minutes to get them with that. That crowd will turn on you. If it's bad kirk will also be passing bananas. Bananas has been forty six seconds. Who that'd be good that'd be good but you? WHOA so yes? So that's fine. I mean like who you're talking about The performer of the Great Song. Today we'll be up there. The performer of Steve Murder. Are there see. I'm I've got saved for the Wilbur Vibes. This is going to be a smaller more informal. Say Again I see I like the exclusivity If they get a little original diddy for the show themselves that we can play at their one time only broadcasts of the song that's really good incorporates. Everybody I think that's a good idea. I think it's a little bonus for the people who spent their Smith's Jenner is. Mike would say to Spend the weekend up there. That seems reasonable to me now. Yeah so he asked me a question. You can reasonably. I'm I don't think I'm difficult to reasonable guy. I've always said I'm difficult to work with. No no one ever said that. What are you Many of them over the years named thirty you know I I. I've never found you difficult to work with it. All never even the thing with your brother. okay I think I've been more praiseworthy of You than anybody you've ever had for boss that's true because they've all been fucking right in Scott Colony. I think we can all agree. The Co name passed. Ask The test in some ways the star. Yes although I could I could do without the The drama on twitter owes. You're going to get ahead. They found his You guys didn't have an interest in it. But I found his instagram belive. pre-game show fascinating to watch it where he's going back and forth with fans and tell them in the car and yeah. I'll be honest with you Mike. I I saw sang. It turned off. I hate when people do things that I created. I turned off two seconds. I was so disgusted. He does. He's a tough guy and then he apologizes for me. He's like he's like August life play. Ah Go ahead Oh wait wait wait wait before you play it though like might not even be up like that's the test of Dave. The tennis event matter. WASCO is a Steve Robinson entire production. I mean this is you know. We think you'll come through of course but this is you know doesn't go well. It falls on Steve on him right. It's funny how hello everyone thinks that nothing about my life is true. But one hundred and fifty people are going to wander up into the main wilderness with me. It's true I think more devotion to this gentleman instill but they know they're spending the majority of their time with Steve Minnesota Shreve. This is Steve. Weekend I almost feel like I don't have to go at all. I'll go but I mean right. Take my my presence is semi require. Yeah sort of favorite could send the video or something next year and folks. We've got bikes vizquel. Oh boy looks cold up there. I don't think the videos up. I think he took it down because people were Twenty four hours ago with people who are making fun of his facial hair the other people making fun of his facial hair of course Alvin. Ice Maze fresh hand of a man. The WASCO though right right right that's true. It may look like a chance. I'll be traversing. The country say south a partial in the United States. One Week Matter Wasco and then the following week in liquor by the way thrown in that mix as a potential trip anywhere in the world for live fucking living. This is going to be annoying annoying month. Twenty is GonNa kick off very busy. Well you guys as well. Maybe you said this already do the people who didn't get to dictate the date. No no we're going to have to accommodate Mike Okay. Because he mentioned the came close to guy talking with the star of the show he talked about how Scott said he thinks he's high sometimes migraine yesterday. Not Migrants come here. That's worse but I was weird pains in my eyes are meshing your pains three months ago. Actually I know the symptoms having a brain tumor. You don't have yet damn well. You never brain You didn't have one though right. No no you're sister-in-law Yes we try to bring that up. I guess it's the worst thing said about it today. Totally the most. You have a parody account. Who's that oh well? This week was the actually the anniversary of her death. December fourth downstairs instep sure. Sure sure sure sure that happens. I'm the years Six GS win. Wow it's more than that. She was in her late twenties. Jeez Richard Sherman before I rudely interrupted. Now you're talking about something you repeat it from before I've done that at least twice. What was the last one? You just did Seattle remember anything either. So forty five years asked if they could dictate the date. Oh No oh for life thing. I certainly think given the money. They're spending they can have a very large say but I think we have to come to some understanding right. Yeah I mean if they if they win the bid and they ah says you know what I want you Tuesday evening in Denver Colorado. We're going to Well now that being said I mean if it's the only thing they can do we'll come at eight them. I feel the are awesome. Yeah I mean I think the best case scenario frustrated Thursday or Friday night. What are the chances that an enemy of Kirkman hand wins? This bid. We just talked before you'll never discussed. And what the fuck you know it. The fuck is going anyway. Let's get you a tennis match but serious respite crazy I do have the Richard Sherman audio. We talk about what we smoking but Dick firm the big story today. You did confirm the mouth you. Did you speak to some of the amount of tennis in high school in the not Matt Not in Meadow Oscar but people people have got this half ass does she says well friend of a friend of a friend of a friend told the official investigation has not begun yet. The first blind makes groupies now apparently a source of yours correct. She's coming on Mike and the fans assessments. Talks down fucking weird. Yeah well. He's he's like he's like a private version of culinary. colonnade we'll talk everybody. Yes also. Did you see the bizarre thread. Where Culinan was replying to himself off? No what do you mean no I avoid. Someone's screen shot of this so I don't know if it was real but it was it was colony and saying something like I don't know if this broadcast is going to get up and then replies to stuff. No no you gotTa Kid. Don't worry about it then. Someone goes fuck this guy. And it's all from colonies. Couples Means Konin has parody account that he responded shuttles. This positive thing. Why is she calling arguing? Doing with chase call name parody account before the chase. I've met him yeah he's real. It's also breadline Cowan. Not Doksan. Well Gee don't spoil that we only see and is not real nice guy. I'm sure I'm sure you talked all the time. Yes I have no doubt Yeah House relationship with the intern so let him squirm just will just just okay any text. Text me again last night. What are you talking about? What happened with you guys do? So we went to Red Robin here. We get the director's breakfast cut of that or no. Yeah so glad you talk us. We'll try the point this forever. We're not true true so yeah. He texted me again last last night. Probably around eight dirty apologetic social media. He was very apologetic. Gandhi says hey sorry again blah blah blah. I wait a while and I say don't want it happened again while boy iron-fist now it's so be can be buddy buddy for so long so it'd be pizza tomorrow afternoon at Your House is what you're saying. Okay I also got a text from him last night or on the same talked in the text me for well come on. He's at my number. What do you say? That didn't read it boy. Why not go? I starts out uh-huh I really can't apologize enough and I said Oh. Gosh Mike Situation discussed it. Why is he apologizing you because I brought them on the boss? I brought him on an assignment blocks on the Mike the boss the boss of the interns. Yeah his boss exactly. So you're the ultimate boss but but keep it away from me. I will say one thing he he did he did a nice job dancing around. I was not impressed. But when you ask them Why he respects you more than me right and he had to dance around that a little bit he did better than an idiot? Like that. Should have Yeah that I respect him. He was cornered. That's true the boy he is dumb. She's response was great. It was going to say for yourself. Mike told you to do X.. And you did why. What's happening here? 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We owe some money will probably figure out what the situation is with the charity. We may as well have a winner. We'll be watching debid increase over the weekend. I'm sure sure and thanks again to our great friends from which beverage companies horizon Beverage Bryson beverage offering offering to match every dollar up to ten thousand dollars. We're going to raise twenty grand in. The Mum is my guest for this foundation. So Nessin last night Dole rises it. Sure I'm sorry little edgy. Really begets prostate or something like that. -ficiating Cardi Actually to just let you guys know Emerson has never watched the series or anything in the books speaking a foreign language me. I have no idea what they're talking about. I haven't seen a single minute Senate of any Harry Potter movie. I've not read a single any Harry Potter like my life is a okay right now. Ever read a book in like ten years. I believe it is that bragging about never having read a book in ten years. Say this the reason I got so far ahead so I read their also empty can fucking heads. I don't say anything well it. They don't really need. They read a teleprompter. That's true so we were. We were sitting in the cafe at the boss Sportscenter. Yesterday we were looking at Nessen was on teasing big intervened believable big inner. They never. You'll never guess. Aw You actually probably. Won't you really want Bob. You're not even close like Matt Damon and Christian Bale Damon and Christian Bale. They got them both on in in studio on that show. No it was in a different studio someplace else and it was neither of them doing the interview. How Chuck for the show movie? Yeah they talk about like the red socks of course. How much did you know about cars matt before this real deep dive not not yet was but I but not and I didn't know Oh this story guys in particular and the relationship that they had actually maybe? The regard in which shelby held Ken Miles and and How he knew that that he this was the guy that he needed? He absolutely needed him. fucking my listening to. Ken was essentially after hours for stable. I'm I listen to this boring interview. Jesus idea of talking to Matt Damon and Ben Affleck about like. I'm sure I'm sure they're baseball. Fan darasing but it's just like the didn't watch every game or Grown men there is an actor. Who'd on tour for a movie like this talking about the mindset and the philosophy of the person that portrays read the fucking script come on ended? Did you learn about the guys actual life. Just read your lines. If you're acting. Yeah I think you should. I'm bored with this. When you're in an interview like at this you can have something that sounds like you didn't just go read a script? You want to do. Research in real life character. You wouldn't want to read then you play your characters understanding as you did some theater work the person would in your pastor's theatre work for you. What are you talking among the theatre working pass? I'm aware of it. You're the fake moustache. Enroll you in uh-huh player win. Oh you saw a picture from high school confirm or deny I was in sixth musicals. Only six what. Oh you're hearing this Friday at nine. What musicals Oklahoma an Oklahoma Okay started out with gypsy? Sure I was in probably my best performance lil abner. I think a lot of people have said that about. That's probably your pizza. You've lead role net. No I had an important Horton role. I was the first one to consume the berry tonic and vital role. Yes would you Carter's name. But he changed the entire course hats. Glengarry sorry I think my the name of character was child one okay. which role was your most prominent role? Probably any get your gun. Oh did you plan that. I was Buffalo Bill that's Buffalo. Believe you were really bill. That's GonNa play that another another Christine. That's the story yes okay. Do you have any songs so solos I did. As Buffalo Bill I had a solo was named the song. I can't even remember. I just had like an bleached it for my memory doesn't exist because there was there was laughter. I think we need again to hear those job for the best. Why why is there this curiosity with investigating all of this because Leeson and you're strange human being so I guess? What is the motivation for me to say that? I play tennis in high school. If I didn't elite IOS goes back to this in a lawyer reached out to me yesterday and said it's important to know that in this particular St Louis. Reach out to you yes. Yes which parody account as well but he says actually Alan Dershowitz says it's important to note motive for crime is not necessarily required in Massachusetts. It's without motive with no allegation of a crime. What's the crime? The crime's lying. That's true when I sort of lobbies right it's just a it's just a moralist Orleans. You're lying with the amount of fries but why why would lie about the amount of fraud. They lie about the hotdog eating. You know why the candidates dates lie about screen bows lie about certain things they did or didn't do in the past like raiders. Motivation is clear for politicians bill. Richardson Richardson said. He was clearly trying to build himself up into a war here reporting she more. You're trying to clear fucking motive and that was a bad point so bill Richardson years ago. Bill Richardson the old New Mexico governor. So he said he played minor league baseball but he said he was basically really young He didn't always be governed New Mexico. I think when you're I think you're lying. Try Build yourself up. I I think he tried to build myself up by saying that I played Second or first double sided people like guys nathlie little story about comedian. Steve Rienzie. That's it's true nine eleven is he's a fellow was nobody someone asked him. You were in New York in nine eleven he goes. Yeah I was there that snowballed into making his career. He's the nine eleven was so again. The clear motive story clear motivation helped. We're missing one point. It was a small Snowville ally that rolled into this the being at a terrorist attack. As we've seen with Kevin Cullen is a little bit different than saying I played tennis in high. So but my my thing is you're you're so angry after the haircut and all that stuff that you're saying the five fries sort of build up your angry story my recollection as five hundred for. That's what I'm saying. Let's see what he thinks. This is done from point of evil. I oh I don't think anybody feels that way you might know and again why. Why are people digging into Steve's musical career why why do people want to know my theater performances? People think Israel darkness there honestly people. I'll tell you the other thing you from the start the first accusation. This is all on you because you gave horrible answers on the hot dog stuff You gave a seven or eight year spread which is ridiculous very odd. That's ridiculous that's on you if you give them the concrete year finishing this place. Here's photographic evidence. Here's a quote from heroin. Here's on the following you know the fans Deny the evidence that contradicts there was no evidence presented theirs firsthand testimony of eyewitness Harlan Akron. They never said you've finished second second not firsthand. There's no gave a year's single not a single piece of evidence has ever contradicted my story. What was the name of that hair salon you into the other day I forget? Read it read. It was a postcard that they send me. I cannot Beli- boy you soon. Thanks John L. I.. I'll give him that. I think he got his haircut. There does the obviously cut hair. But yet you hear that I believe I believe he got your haircut or so before we get the lie detector test guy in what. What don't you believe? Well someone reached out to me and claim they went to the same. I'm hair salon. Wait a minute continue and we're charged and they paid no more including tip no more than fifty dollars. That is a hell also. I also GonNa Trim Beard Trim this number. I said Thirty Bucks I sit on the fucking show. I said I wanted to get my beard shaven off but the city of said I also get a shampoo All right so you guys are just inventing wild accusations beard trimmers thirty dollars. Call the salon right now. Can you tell us. Say for the blind folks. What is the name of the Salon in case anyone wants stared at me right there for a second? They call his bluff call the salon. Oh Al Cone Now yes well. They're probably open ten right. Oh definitely I would think so attacked if they've ever been open at all. You have to my flamboyant accent. I'm GonNa talk to them or no. Break Out Steve is feverishly texting detectors. Those again the Russian or it's more you've been preparing for this time thank you for choosing eighteen eight Westwood. How may I help you Are you located in Burlington. No this is the west bow cakes and Burlington. Location number I let me not if I can find the number and I can find it okay. We're all set. Thank you thank you. Thank God blessing. So let's Let's call this one. We can find it or can he. So the letter. You got US buying time. So what was the letter. What was a postcard from the Westwood Location? No it was from the BURLINGTON location. The phone numbers on the postcard. I just google the first eighteen eight. That came up. I assume the prices are probably the same. We'll sit around with that but we get the right location quick quick quick. Call your wife ever pretend that it's used this against all right. Here's the story okay. Quick tennis contrived over the haircuts. Good Morning Eight thousand eight can help. What did you say initially I'm sorry? don't even tests this for years and years ago. I remember that that's okay so you're probably you're probably familiar with me. My name is Kirkman and you know who that is you know I have no idea. How are you good so good morning so I always podcast on? Have you heard of Barstool barstool sports bar stool now. Okay now New England yes well sort of so we host the podcast Ron Right now now. do in the show. We had our producer got a haircut. There how long ago Steve we can have. We can half ago. So Steve Tell the. Tell all the gentlemen. What what you had done? I had a haircut a shampoo and a beard to trim so for those three things what the price be total for that a price for. What was it the whole package or was it? You'll know the shampoo and beer. Yes if it was a shampoo camp OOOO beer trim and a haircut Let me see we have a beer. Term Executive would be twenty okay shampoo and haircut executive point forty four sixty four dollars in total. Okay thanks so much sorry about that you straight thank you very much thank you thank you now go back to your to go back to your work Say about that. We know you're the guy who didn't know the ship who was at one point and now this is going to be i. I wanted to let Steve Give his side. It's going to be thrown out there. That Steve does not shampoo hair ever pay for a sham. True Romance Demands. Why you do it? But the Guy Answer the phone I think said Soviet something Kremlin what it was it was like. I've never done that before. He offered the fence. The floor is yours. Although I will say that the prices is that he gave lined up paying eighty bucks. Yeah after tip you tell us a tip. Before tipped him sixteen dollars for sixty four which is to be fair. Fair to finish sixteen is a twenty five percent tip. I'm a good tipper credit card I but he still put effort in. I'm among I'm not I don't I'm not one of these guys who tips based on the quality of the services. Just you always get a good tip but that was clearly not somebody works there. That's not even know moment. I thought the name of the place. Clearly he's been he's been Barbara for a long time. It's early in the morning. He woke up and he went back to the old. He didn't know the price of WHO's asking clearly. The background sound like his wife. That looks bad. Who might know something about it? Looks bad on on them. Frankly mouth was passing the buck. This guy I mean who really call was a neo. You can look at my phone records if you want. We'll access your feed information. I'll be taking care of Jesus Steve But the point is so that would you say that. The KIRKMAN Hands School of Journalism. Right there was better than my Gary School. I made a phone call. I have both sides got allegedly spoke to somebody. That's the only thing. Fuck I dispose. Oh yeah that'll be called into question. Twenty dollars get your hair shampooed. Seems like a fucking rip off seeing. What would you do that you idiot the dark day? What's your upset about that than the fucking five French fries? I'm upset about all of it. They didn't tell you the shampoos twenty dollars. No no I watch. Yeah I know it is on me. I've accepted blame The beard trimmers. How much another twenty the fucking shave yourself? And they did. I asked for a shave. And they didn't even give me a shave. They said this guy the guy said Oh. ooh Good Beard. When I see one at him he was looking at your wife? I thought it was for a little bit. I don't don't go with their beat. The fuck out of they can't rip your. I thought it was all these these deep inside joke. It's not what you spent forty dollars to your your beard trimmed in Washer Hair. You're an idiot Yup. She's we learned nothing unusual. I I don I all I can really learn a lot. That's true phone records guy. The idea of these guys are great. I mean that was damning to say hey goes say like hey this is whatever he goes good morning and then there's a pause but he said something else though to a weird one syllable Roy. This is going to be played. Played more than the film. This is going to be replayed all day do we want to stop here and replay it. No it's okay. Well let's we'll come back Monday because I think I'll be curious to hear the reaction from people but I don't even use them. We got that was not good for you know that was probably the most damaging evidence that's come out yet I think so. It's funny how one phone call initiated initiated by Kirkman and can do more damage to my reputation than twenty forty eight hours of Mike Aguirre journalists. What's true what's what's astonishing though? Is You just better-off Singer. I I have more respect for you. Live than saying spent fucking thing that's the real takeaway in postcards and cheese. I don't know so oh learned a lot as always. I should've learned a lot as always. We're back next week. God knows what will be going on Hopefully we're at a nice round number for the for the charity auction by then and and above all the other shows going on over the weekend. We'll we'll see what might get them in the fan reaction. DC SLEUTH is returning to Washington DC. This weekend you are I am is what's going on. There can talk about it. Of course what do you mean. You can't tell you I was just letting you don't want to be in DC. Why is he wanted to play tennis over the weekend? Really Care if S.. He the lease Luke might be thirty. Maybe Ninety two it can be DC. Why not heard that in a while no the going down the street hiring somebody yeah thing for sure how that would go good morning possible and then start laughing as if he was like kind of in on the joke I notice Kirk and then when you said Kirkman as no doc stone side is Russian? Well his game and his Tana English God is it on or now it's turned into a Pumpkin job with Paula. Alway Ono doing something else. I can't all the job for northern S. D. C.. Maybe he's thirty. Ninety two talking from fifty. These Union Society took Stevie Watches Lincoln. It's a snappers hasn't meal and he's hanging up there in Dexter Maine talk and Reagan with his pound a writer and a poet quote in half and his role and he said he performed on that the parties. Dan Dan that school must be smooth. Maybe thirty maybe fogging goal asya two s in the DC. Maybe indies third song. Maybe to this one this one more than any other get stuck it definitely was that I know everywhere. You do a man on the album. Put it that way if we do released a twelve song album or disc with all the greatest i. I think they'll be honest. Sure over sure yes I would say so. Yeah seven locks there will be on it. Yeah Mama Jewish touch God Hotel California one for short Yes for sure. Sure yet. For sure Mama Gary's touch Gordon me. Steve Murder Me Mama's Gary Touch Steve. Murder Me Yeah me that seven or eight right there. I guess you put podcast. She's on the just because it seems like they'll probably Oh. Of course. I probably the title of the album. The hit single but it'd be sort of fabric holds it together and it was the first. It was the first we forget all the first one really played with. Steve's Liar podcast before podcast uses was before that podcast. Jesus came up before the vigil. We are calling for songs after that the right. Yes yes I mean. That's the way. The world is divided into provincial and post vigil. Timeframes like right. Yeah because the visual happened. It's great it's great. It's fresh air before you for walks. They gave us hotdogs pizza and drinks. It was a lot of fun. I got to meet other people. People wandered in and that was really fun. Okay great it was great. The patients moves. He's one that tennis more structured playtime is prescribed. Do feel good after that win. That felt good because I Kamakalala felt a little pressure before because we the entire Bergman's on me three games on that first game clenched with the tough. Never got ice fishing by the way. Never Oh no not not a chance you would have on your end of the bargain. Which is why? I'm not going to take a lot detector tests. Definitely think I'm your boss. That's how it works. You're taking detector detector tests. I'm going to file a complaint with the National Labor Relations Board. Why you came to the agreement before you agreed early on the air it's recorded documented? Then you I just said you wouldn't have honored the deal. I yep it does matter now. Losing deals to victory spoils deal is gone isn't refusing to take the lie detector test worse if you can you can say. Oh It's bullshit if you refuse to take it now expected but there's no deal now just obviated it. I'm breaking balls you idiot I. We've we've definitely gone ice fishing for hours over the years Chili Dogs with everyone backslapping time with the entire crew. The questions when when we do the lie detector tests which I'd like to do the last week not next week but the week after okay do we bring in some. You know some people in in the audience who want to come and watch and participate in this and watch it happen. I don't think there should be people watching I think there should be people interrogating. Truly we trust ask questions. That's true yes we can do that as will like like Patrick from the discord dimension. Mcginn guy like that has a lot of information who you remember. You may remember butte beard. No chance to meet him yet. Maybe not but he's a nice guy. Okay sounds great so a guy like that. That's reading the discord all day. He'll know a lot of all the BARSTOOL advisor. Guy Is the guy guys compile the tireless in view. Click it. It's one of those ones you click in its scrolls through endless patrick himself I was calling you a liar yesterday on social media so you stories on that up. What about certain times he showed up for? Okay I'll give you an example. I don't I don't consider this alive but these this how much people are obsessed obsessed with us. You said you showed up album you saying this on the show right around. Seven o'clock for the live thing with Dave and Mike Reid the golfing packages. He was there ten minutes before you already there this website. How seriously especially lie or is it just a memory thing? What is it woody? You'll know could be either. which is it I think from now? I want to start lying deliberately. Every single show Let people track down. What do you think makes funny? Do you think I was in gypsy. Yes I do. Oh but yes I think Mike Larrea so he's GonNa lie okay. Fine who had the best life Jeff. Who who had the best line on the car ride over to boss sportscenter making me laugh? I don't remember you said rather be anyone earth that car. We've got to listen to Peter kink why it was funny because I told Steve The seat Oreo of the Peter King Game Peaking Challenge Peter King Challenge. Yes and then. Peter King went on on to give a an eleven minute answer to listen to the fucking a pocket music anything you know Jesus five seven to make fun of. I guess it was like five minutes. Maybe ten minutes of silence just driving along. The talk was a funny line though after five or ten minutes of silence. I just look Mike. How's house thanks for the PEP talk? The jets have lunch before. Oh no food. I think the issue is nice meal before Mike Thinks I'm hilarious. I crack up all the name funny more and more. I think he finds ends of character. That we've developed funny might be like if you just met you somewhere. Says some things that are funny like I said Interview made me laugh yesterday. With which was the real fucking question. I was funny. It was fun playing sort of the athlete role there so yeah because I mean to be fair. It's not asking good questions. And a bad mood right. And he was imposing he's a big big man very intimidating and Steve was legitimately angry after that yesterday. I know people are mad. You're mad you're disappointed with yourself. I was and it wasn't the worst thing that happened to me yesterday. Trey also that. What lie? What happened to you yesterday? I had to go visit with my Tax Guy Afterwards. Framingham descends interesting story. Choice Stephen Tax Guy What happened was amyloid thing? What happened the tax thing? What happened what? He didn't pay enough of the taxes you didn't it turns out You know the rules are different for Bitcoin. Yeah it was a little confusing you get smoked. Or what a little little bit. Yeah how much. We'll talk about it interesting that you all your money tied up in crypto tax cuts in Framingham. Yeah okay eh diversion. I TRY NOT TO PAY OFF Steve Given to try to give you insight into my thinking. My ass kicked at tennis now I have to drive a whole framing saga. Yeah drive the Framingham. I got the loss phone was Oh that was a gut. Wrenching rattled yes is rattled. He was not not not a good place but uptown. He was really disappointed. I was like what do you expect if that happened. After winning might have been F- I'll buy a new one who needs it. I would at least be a little bit more competition on. My answer would be more sporting i. I'll tell you what sport I'll tell you this. It was so bad that I I wish I was more drama or my six. Oh Six oh prediction coming true. You're GONNA throw point. I was throwing games. Yeah having the fine have some drama gotTA banking on it but too much integrity integrity sportsman. I'll say I was the the deer and you were the Buick lesabre that's true. I merged you that's true. I was just surprised that I know you've ever had that moment. You know you never had that moment you you said this is his moment. Turnaround will never happened. No I mean I'm still defeated right now. Well I mean he could play Mike. That might some people speculated that might be more fair I think it'd be closer to my own challenge shares. Play one one golf hole next year I'll L. Say Mike would've won just as many games as I did. That's true of course that's true you probably would have thrown him a few games. I would have. Yeah well if you played him. There's a chance that if you double-faulted enough while you were serving. He might actually win the game. This is true. You've seen my pingpong serve against Portland. November translates that's your your vision. Even now is not as good as it wasn't that soundless soundless shame. Yeah well all right we we could spend as always longer than usual. It's a fun show. It's kind of like classic. Nice pep talk joke. I thought says generally history. I can't remember it was really. Yeah it was funny that I can't believe it was actually funnier that laugh riot. I know whoever this Patrick guy is does tweet out that you know when is retiring become an option like this idea. The people retire from Minnesota World Right. But she's doc should he be killed. The only way out is in a box. I mean that's the thing if people lead us when they start talking what also what they're saying is they're no longer a fan of yours. Seem like or not even that fan not tweet every day but yeah but I think once you become a hardcore minute fan either podcasts. If you've checked out you lost big points right or are you podcast. Jesus podcast Muhammed. Because podcast Jesus wouldn't bring violence upon apostates. People were calling you ask what Allah after after here. Well I mean I did thank him yeah. That's a good question. I mean Mohammed would hunt down and kill him as a signal. A symbol holds opposite example. Plus it's a meal for for weeks get that kill. I don't think Muslims do cannibalism. But they don't but my point is you may wish gets her killing these people because by my biggest concerns that you know maybe just start talking surely to the world and the bottom of the world who knows where the wild total wild bill all that juicy gossip if they have about your personal shit up and actually guy who's always been worried worried about them exactly the kind of flips and they just like goodfellas again. I was GONNA fold under questioning which apparently happens keep out killing them as an option. Okay well let's dude fine. We'll be the first time I I tell you. Who Do we do? We discuss who Pacino's wife is in In the actress who plays Pacino's wife in the Ashman we talk about this. Yeah did we. Do you WANNA get to the Tim Raines onto. Did we talk about earlier this week. Actors the babysitter from Oem. Jim Ryan was talking about. It was like five days ago with. That's true it's made me. Think of that from Goodfellas you fold under questioning fund but yeah. That's a good question should we killed uh-huh HP. Yeah I think so yeah. Of course we contract out right. I'm typically well no it's one of the one. I want ahead of myself to be some poetic justice to it especially will especially if he's trying to pull something with. This came as quotes that good point though Mike is that you know those are the kinds of guys who start talking. I was under spell. That was part of a cult. I'm sorry I understand what you're coming from. You protect me bothered me my job. You're not gonNA Docs means David. Miscarriage would never let this guy out of his sight. That's a good point. Yeah I think she should be scrubbed. Toilets me some hotel Miami point looking back it started to unravel when you made the first fat joke when you got him in studio. I was alarmed at his weight. I think Keith. MHP Thought Hey. I kept the Sky Alive. All these years. Yeah you learn show and you're gonNA come in and it was going to be He was gonna come in and see. I thought you no see. I think I mean she was thinking so when you say international that means I can have pancakes. I thought was going through his mind at that point. Nobody that's true because I I was not on the show at that time I was if we had never come in studio. I think he'd be gets to be here. Maybe maybe but I would say moment trump but if he came in studio that day writing fat now he he's at the point now we can't other than surgery can control thyroid. We've lost him to that condition. That's fine we never met him. He'll never hear this. I have yes. Yes she was the first thing we McCullough name that must be nice guy very great. I've I've for talent as we saw but if they had been the only criticism of him image be. I mean you would say that the poetry was was a kill shot though. Oh sure right. I agree that I agree. What was rough true? I agree I started at but you know the ball got rolling without a doubt and now he's probably right now in Sherborne Sherborne just spilled his guts get got a finger up his ass and he's got involved listen. The food will be flowing here all day long as much food is you want so they just get him some fucking you know Whenever he some brow- worst and away he goes now? It makes issue wondered with that his passwords to the show twitter account Mya access to discord all the openings. A man could ever ones driving us down absolutely really secret. Stuff is never hear this to be insulted by. Because he doesn't know is there's one thing that could be tweeted out from the show account like say. MHP gives Bob Murchison the password to the show and he's got one tweet to try and bring everything down a few words. What is one word from the show account to bring everything down? What would it be or not one word one hundred eight hundred eighty words if you WANNA go down two hundred got to Galore is more Inside you'll find a couple I would say some words that were not As as a pro transgenders we are And the show if he wanted to do that and sabotage it and for all I know that you know. Maybe that's what they're talking about right now. I may be is sort of is Bob's Patrick Vice President I think. HP's Bob's vice president. Now Yeah I think. He's part of the merchant cabinet and it's already happened. Yeah I think he worked you now. What this all this the collapse of did coincide with him getting a new job? When the only that I'm GonNa Talk I've got one as well which means Sound for Awhile Right Let's say look for month or so wells have been quiet from other so I did not Mike Mike Mexico a little. A little puppies had Japan. It's so much so much trust in the guy that I never even thought of that so so for the past month. Is there a chance. Those two have been collaborating project together as we know it was a great investigative investigative journalist Solved everything. Wow what do you want to take action on this information. Reach out to me because I do have Mitch dress so so yeah yeah again. We don't need well. We'll see what happens. I think the most appropriate thing would be to kidnap him. Bring them up matter. WASCO will be holding the icing under under. He's never heard of this. Could be a really big hole up the waters that big honestly. Well we'll have a fire to if we need to burn them and then we can. We can grill him that night. Make them part of the buffet. Tapie turned into the Donner Party. Yeah seems fine by me I mean but I you know what Mike I think those were kind of brought up the both of them being sound for while. Wow something something something one writes. I know you something right there. Holy Shit yes. We looked closely at the pictures of the black suburban. That was just right for yard. Close close enough. It seems to look one side is tilted. Driver's side is tilted significantly. So I don't know not good from this but this is the way. A Great Trauma Works Shakespearean. This might be the worst thing that's ever happened to you. I'll say this I'll say right now. UNMADE why. How can you do? Oh sorry can you watch. Oh God of course yeah tweet unmade hold on hold on hold on. Give me the weekend to think about but right now on made out of the circle gun. This is a guy you were buddies now. Level Tend to tend to one hundred ten guilty what you feel and when we which is which level one to ten ten to one what are we talking exactly what you said at friend. What does very guilty or not guilty attended very guilty? You take your own life. It's not gonNA kill himself. Stop It. Don't joke around about stuff like that. Let's listen to you. I would feel not no guilt at all. I mean if the truth is the truth and he went to the dark side. How what kind of sympathy would you offer that guy? If you're me well might actually make me like more. You just did the honorable thing if it's uh-huh what but it's too late now if it's after he's given information to the to the opposition I mean what does he really have. I mean he's a great guy but who knows I don't know well here's the thing either there. He's never going to hear about this because he doesn't listen. So he's not GonNa care or Bob is gonNa tell many ways if he's working with Bob. What's the difference after the stunt? He pulled today with a K.. Misquote but he's going to want to know if he's really retired he's not gonNA respondent social meteorite. I wouldn't think he's really retired right guy would do. He goes off into the sunset right. It'd be heard from again because often covers the sunset. I don't know like I don't know but I'm telling you if you look at the period of inactivity it matches up. That's all again I. It's in to be fair to the Steve With always say that's not enough evidence to convict right of course circumstantial. But if I'm a juror I do it. Might it put that Little Chin up in his face. Get St Mike's we read read right there. So yeah it's almost like trusted losing my home coach doors it's almost like a Investigative reporter on the show might be able to track something down other than fucking Red Robin French fries and let us not diminish the importance of that story. That got some good Alex in the movie spotlight which I didn't like the joint will be. Steve was a decent movie. I didn't like you said low but the real heroes in the whole scandal the Boston Globe reporters. If you remember the middle of the scandal. They take a break break because nine eleven happened so ruffles character that. Go down the Miami the fine some of the flight records from where they got their training This might be a situation where very similar to the to. The church scandal will be the French fries scandal right but the scandals nine eleven right. GM saying I'M GONNA say which is more important. Don't mean right the fork. I'll do remember right before I would go. H P scandal one nine eleven to okay. French fries three Catholic Church. That's fair I'll stay. I would agree with that. Seems about right to me so I would go. Do you think. Debbie's already been cycled to another Red Robin for shelf. YELP WELL I. It's a national chain. So welcome Spokane Debbie. They did by the way. The official corporate Red Robin Account Don't act knowledge. Something there was some there's some Kirkman show tweet now. This is this is. This is what happens Mike. That was actually Steve. A parody. Red Robin Account the Oh because it was a parody robin account replied to one of the other counts. I saw you sure I think there was a verified Red Robin account that were yes I believe so I don't think so we're driving should be sending us some money. This is boy. The food's good I mean in the fries are Oh my good steak fries nothing. Have you heard about the new challenge. It's it's it's unbelievable but you guys are getting lost in the weeds here. I want now. This is a story. Oldest time friends turned enemies MHP was a friend of mine and ally and the real personal issues with Michael. Arthur geary true so I think it's time for you to figure out what the fuck is going on. I want to report on Monday morning. I have a feeling the textile will send him after the show Megara spots a really I mean if a guy that sees a text like like I'm about to fire off I think Seymour second to say simply Kirk wants to know if you're working with bubble no don't don't pack powered past the bucks just to me because well not passing the buck. I think that's more important to him. A really I think so. You just say hey. We talked about in the show dates. Add Up we all have questions Yes oh eighteen hours ago. DC tweet it out. I Know Blind Mike that the Maitre D did not welcome big Steve to Red Robin Burgers. But what about the small. EA The Red Robin Account at the Red Robin Account replied with a me of someone sipping tea and said very fancy a joke kind of I would say so their fans. I don't think they've watched Mister Jerry's around breath work also also out of a job so I think we have a real you have work to do over. The weekend is my point not just host. I'm not just going to the comedy shows not doing your things things but it's time for you to now. I mean there's nothing worse having I mean in a way in a way It's like the Ashmore Hoffa gets whacked by his best friend. Yeah and he needs to be. Honest is a chance Saturday morning. I'm asking to go get some Selena. Say you know what. Change a plant in the plane. You're flying out the Pennsylvania for the day. We're going to do it you know. I'll be waiting right here by your sunglasses and I'll have to bring DC with me for some. You'll be driving drive around sitting there in the past your sunglasses us this way. And that's it all right the might have and you're willing to do it for the show. I know that yes. Of course I think you'd be a hell of a shot held marks without a doubt in that situation the adrenaline kind of takes the anger. I could see happening. It'd be a busy weekend for Mike. True fresh off of US asking hey blind groupie. So what did you think of the Red Robin Investigate Ali people in history. Do you think have murdered a friend. On the same day they posted a youtube show with two parody. Accounts are in love with him. Not Many I would say that you get when you come to the show crossing boxes off the old book it might have done a show with prostate exam porn born and then played a tennis match. Say Day yeah the same back to pass rush limbaugh ninety six for a little while so I mean this is I mean. I'm Emma throwing any accusations you are though. I'm not. I am doing with respect as we did a year to go. I'm asking questions questions and no one else is talking about right. Now the timelines lines to me matchup has been silenced at the same time. That's all I'm saying. That's it if we're wrong wrong but I want that goddamn twitter account. I won the hands of somebody who respects a show and wants to stay with the show. And you're in the hands of a made guy too. Yeah we'll maybe not even necessarily there's so many guys know there's two that I can think of you've seen province Amiga. Okay Three Kevin Okay all right all right all right guys are made. Gus gotch. Is Laura Lynn. A made woman. I'm not there yet. I'm close. That's the way the way we run our business like it's kind of like the mob. It's kind of like guys only bullshitting you know. I understand. She's close to one of the guys ask you now. She's aging Shirley Lung close as you can get. Oh listen. We're at the end of the year will open the books okay. We're GONNA open the books we will up almost twenty twenty. Put it this way. I'm willing to make five people. Okay five five five families. Yeah I WANNA have five made people so right now. We Have D.. We see Kevin from Bristol Stephen Province there's two spots open different canton. I will say is circling around that fourth spot circling rolling around that for. He's gotta be. Now I have I F- Mackenzie. Ram All close governed by fear close to new for me though TJ hovered close. Okay soon I'm saying but now there's a spot open right. I mean Dave colonnade you might even count like on. Unlike how you know emmy going South West you could even say two spots open. Because he's going to see the point but KFC's close okay. Okay I mean no bigger fan. Of course they can't out well after what has done a really out. Yeah but like a WHO'd you say it was last week so named name. No absolutely not. No no no is Mike. Made Guy Mike's on the show but that's different being a made guy who was on the show. Put this wait three months from now. He's on the show again. The books. Yeah we'll have the conversation I was probably I was probably below those guys though. I sure. What did you just in terms of history with my old? Yeah I interact with the old show I am I am. I will admit I will concede I am biased towards people who have been around longer but I think any mob guys like you gotta be you gotTa be right right which goes back to Nicholson. We were talking about the part. No have which I right now. I'm GONNA give again one last time. The made guys this DC. Give Him from Bristol Stephen Province I respect that. Oc Province predicted Julian with a tennis match. I wasn't happy with them. But that's fine and might be trying to be cute. You maybe. That's fine Mark Morris. Those are the there are two made spots open and with that comes. uh-huh you get a piece of the action you get protected get some of the Google. Mara you know you get the you get you get the whole thing. This is all part of it. You know Get a gun one. Yeah because E in obviously whack somebody well. Of course that's part of it and I will say though that now that you've laid out the terms the first one to kill. MHP jumps to the front homerun right. Yeah I mean there's a lot of speculation for something crazy person may actually do Steve. So let's make it clear that come to me. I propose what you'RE GONNA do. I'll sit down. Have a meal you. I need plausible deniability. That's just out here. No it's a show. Were joking but if you guy like a like a guy in between Hamble for me I'm just saying if somebody's but he's out there. Bring proof we need each year. Maybe his index finger. I don't need proof of that. Any proof of this collaboration between the two. I'm asking the Bob. Image is that pivotal to whether or not he's murdered. Hughley crazy especially pivotal. Let me ask you this. I reach out to him. HP Make it very clear what we're curious about E- again again does not respond to me. That's good as evidence. That's a confirmation. Okay would you say Stephen No. That's not how confirmation works. I mean I understand but how strong would you deny. Neither if it wasn't true I think that the only thing that's going to get to the bottom of this is Mike. Gary Junket to Pennsylvania grow of Pennsylvania. I think so. The man named John Fall the smell of Bacon. But you know I. I don't think I'm telling you right now. The more talk about this the more. I'm convinced that there's a chance it's I don't don't WanNa believe it. This would kill me if it's true. Kill me worse like Frito would break my heart i. I can't believe we will happen to him. We also have to change her on the mural. Because was then there'd be a new Judas the OL- juice Tuesday true. I will say this about Judas Callahan. There's no situation in which you would collaborate with that man. Yeah no no no no no no the death. I don't actually his family dog. Toby ever instead possible. Mike you met anybody in the room boy. That time line really shook me when you pointed that out. It's possible Steve. visit what percentage injuries but percents. Anything is possible. I think that it's more likely that. HP doesn't actually exist. It might just be a figment of your map shows. We met Adam. I'm serious. What percent do you think it's true? It's possible I don't think it's true zero percent I don't think it's true. Collaborated with Murchison. Why zero percent? Now now. Why now to retire? I would say if somebody threaten you said. Hey you know. Basically what I've done to somebody else I'm GonNa keep doing to you unless you come over to the dark set. It was always the guy that showed the Grassley. He was actually very actually of new job. As Well Grad Steve. He was always a little too. Close the reach you also that see once so that wow they can make. The case was trying to butter up the enemy. Oh Hey maybe what's that text message from. HP I was in a meeting you rang comback on back this because we could bliss case. Why don't we could scrambling cubicle right now? Credit to the bathroom cubicle framing his voice on different than the guy at the hair salon. No BOP BOP shop. That's nice. Let's see we've called twice. I mean we this is rough. Oh well oh who. WHO's like a long law telemarketer? Excuse me so. Here's the last twenty minutes talking about Jesus We understand what does he retired while we want to live your life quietly respect that just a couple of questions for. We'll let you go but I was on. I'm about a couple of steaks on the grill for Kathy. Can you just saw that sense of humor. We believe you're Kathy Dino's Oh yeah. Yeah so what what are you. So you're the cameras quotes Garrett. Come on it's a veteran. Destroy this valuable piece of property that would like somebody to to take over if you're if you or whoever you're talking to handles isn't doing anymore. Would you be willing to have that conversation with the person handling sports as a friend or is that something that the show needs is that would I mean. I think he's a nice. I think it's a nice can. Everything's available for a price being mean warn you it would benefit you that this goes smoothly. That's so I would say you know my loyalty and friendship would be payment enough. But that's okay for them to have a financial conversation when we can be given the fact that you've been silent for a while and you'll appreciate this investigative journalists a good one. We've done the timelines and your real real silence has also been in concert with Murchison silence given your fear and stuff. We think there's a chance you flip over to the dark side and are collaborating with him. Now well listen. Sir Bob Bob Befriend you know a lot of friends you know what working with you but I I so i. I think that the show is going in a different direction. I'm happy for it but I feel like at this point. What am I what more can I wreck? Shit what are you talking about. It's just you know I think there is Oh I don't think cartoon character told me. I think that the show is like riderless. Now that you guys have lost we'll have a nemesis contribution to the medicine show these CDC. And I. I've had you know a billion different differences in opinion of differences. I guess what I would wilder indeed I just I would appreciate that. He's continued to talk behind my back. And say like like I've I've legitimately busy and add like a rough time and and been going through a lot and I have been busy. I mean that's why I haven't been involved everything and did you see is like oh it's like it's a big thing behind my back. Oh John we don't know what he's GonNa do anymore. He's going to be gone like you could just talk to me. Yeah I don't know you can quiet as well though. Yeah I mean do you think that. What do you want me to do with the with would be? I mean I mean. He was weakened reviewed that was his thing. And then when we do the minute fan show is not really. I mean. Let's be honest. It's kind of our show. Kind of a rip-off Louis. Great thinkers like a really good ship. Our New York Law Mike and the fans I I talked to you about micronutrients. I got no response. Bikes feelings are hurt. Hurt my feelings. I've been I've been dealing with a An illness here for the past week so I do apologize for not getting awesome. Yeah no it's I I will you want me to how hard Mike Pence Saturday for a farewell appearance L.. Expand now don see later Dj. So I'll show you it. Might you're gonNA meet this sort of categories. Why why I mean do you do you listen to the podcast? He just is retired and total. I find this interesting people retire from the stuff. No I I I think that for me I just feel like I can do more like like with something else besides the HP thing. And it's like I don't have a lot of turn to do it so I honestly feel like I'm letting like I feel I. I see people that are contributing to the show and I I I wish I had a crime I feel like I'm len down DC. I'm letting down people in the communities of not actually being involved in things so image B.. Have have you have you thought about a career change then I mean well I mean I'm making more money now. So that's part of it too. It's harder to you. Know what am I WANNA go. I listen I. I'm not quite making blind. Mike Money L.. You guys can sweeten the deal. Here's the thing here. I'm looking force this if I needed you specifically to me which said hey like a couple of weeks ago. We were texting back and forth project like that comes up again. You'd be willing to help me Out My rock right along some point. You're going to come to me with attack and I have to make good on that. What you're saying I'm just asking you if something came up I knew that with interest? You could get somebody in trouble the with help me own help you out and help the show house and percents May Find Your soulmate guy status. I took it away. They wake wake. I WOULDN'T I. Wouldn't you say oh thought that for retired on twitter and I don't I don't WanNa bother you if you really don't WanNa be if it's hurting. Myrtle hill found fucking. I WanNa know what can I say. Can I have one gripe though I I am so not not about you can have it and so fucking sick at the medicine I really am like. Could this the guy who hosted the show turn his back on the on the people. I'm allowed to be honest. That's partly it just becomes so awful like little group of like I. I know when I got this bitch session block on. I don't care I know it's ironic because like oh like oh jar right this guy. And they've got the it's not that thick variable figure it out. It's just a bunch of people that are fucking. They're all looking for their own without they're all well. Look I agree. There's some of that no question. Aj's and the camera. Her then. The I I don't know it just all just like it just stinks desparation. I mean it doesn't seem like people that actually love the show and are into the show for me. These people are just insufferable. They're entitled insufferable people. And I just I just can't I just I just that's awesome. That was a big part of me. Just kissing gauging from the world is I just. I'm getting sick of these fucking luck is just listen to the podcast. I I've been doing the podcast every time. And then if you're listening why not still do came as quotes or whoever's doing it ooh I don't I don't do. Km as close. You're never done finally but you are communication with the patient. Who doesn't correct I I I will say that? I've got some investment opportunities looking to cash out pretty pretty large. beat the equity that I'm looking at that. Was Steve Ronson Steve. OSCEOLA look happy right. Now let's all of us to turn over the past to the account or I'll docks you for Real I. You already did that and I it totally true by the way and it seems to me like the the dachshund would never this help. This is really what at the end of the day beyond Murchison or any of the other. Barstool investigator beginner whoever radio. Even as a real team is really the one that's responsible for speech so when you used to get mad. The cameras quotes and freak out. You'd the freaking out of yourself. It's called mental. You understand I do just gets stranger stranger. I I've seen I've seen the light and they actually let me out. It's a nice. It's a Nice Rick Day and must be. It must be I. They let me out. I've got my hospital gown on and I think that they're going to let me go home next week and I and this is actually lap. You Bet you bet they will now. You've gotten phone time to talk to one of your. They communicate with has been gone from the facility for a few weeks to be honest with you. I wasn't even sure show every evening. The entire thing thing with something green and made up all right so so for the record. You've not collaborated with Bob Murchison. At all Steve suggested earlier tracking. You wouldn't even did you. Actually Steve. With Steve Yeah. It was not good. It was ugly. Russian why I think Stephen Moore convinced now they was before the phone. You did a good job of quitting yourselves of any of the charges levelled against you earlier in the show. What what give me the charge? The what the charge. What was saying about the Luke Kirk forgets we'll give me give me come on? Let's go. DC Sleuth which you got the guy the piece of evidence. There's no question it's you turned into a total pussy and dropped off the map at the same time that Mr Murchison started leaving us alone. So there's Sir Circumstantial evidence suggests that you're collaborating with him. Yeah there's a big project the big coming up. Oh because Steve. I'm I'm sure that your friends would tell you that certain convict somebody is that right sounds healthy ever right now right back into couldn't just crazy ever go back go back go back to work by scheduling shakeup on the minivan offended. Sounds like I believe him. I believe until he came on and answer the questions now. You're the one who is leveling the accusations against percents. Now you're saying you don't believe him if he doesn't give us a twitter account back that it's going to be a problem. I don't think I would agree an actor. He should reach out with him. We liked him but he should get. I mean that's just for the good of the show. Just it'd be cheap and you know what Oh for his own good in any time at any time you want to have it again and do it. It's his fair. Yeah that's fair but if he doesn't give I would say it would be in his interest to give us that account his family's emmers interest to. Yes we'll start work our way through all of them but the warehouse injury text you sick. He said sick can illness. What the Fuck Yeah Airlines like? What sounds a little fishy? Might Still WanNa dig. was that AIDS now the email no. It'd be fun parody Song About Contracting Aids and that's why I can't be hosting the show I guess she wanted to work on them the requisite period the time for something to be become funny. It's always to be a great source of comedy always has been and I think I may be that good an actor that he can pull that if you were working with Murchison. I think it'd be able to tell true. Yes so maybe maybe we can get a two for one the lie detector true. Yeah okay all three all right so Jerry's and next week we have a bunch of stuff to get to see the follow from listen. I don't know by the way that attack them in the fans is going to piss them the mid cells hate and HP fans might turn on because he said he's sick the Karoo finally something to fire them up shit but he's more of a mid sell hater though the age as the Keller's trump the whoever the hell AMC KFC crowd. Yes that crowd. The he doesn't like I'm guessing it will have a big cat on next week as well. I think we've probably schedule an appearance of big cat next week. Gerry Callahan for a big announcement. And I'll be curious to hear the reaction from the president being attacked by an HP being stabbed in the back which. I don't understand. I I didn't either really being pretty open about what he was thinking. Yeah he said on the podcast that stabbing in the back but maybe we'll get plenty of get to next week uh-huh trying these anything else from the next week O.. Obviously the the fundraiser. We'll see we're at with let's Richard Sherman played that before we will happen to it. Happened go with them. But Hey about that auction. Do they get to choose where it's going to be put some of that we do the do you have that printed out for today. Let's do that. You see the story of this opera wedding in Tuscany. We are doing the rock opera wedding in a live show. Okay good or bad. We're doing a show. Good I think we have to right. Yeah sure I have the people. That's a wilbur would say that if it was good enough for the live show we probably would have already done it. I think it's I think it's a real deep cut for the hardcore fans don't you yeah. They've been waiting for it for. I think it was the first show right. That was that was on the first show but also what image. He's be was. There was there when I was there my couple times. Jesus we haven't yet so we'll see I think. HP which means the old. I may be the media. It joking around answer the phone willing to go on the show at the Joe. It's an addiction addiction. You just you just the back in total relapse. It'd be tweeting a madman. But if as I said there were countless times where he came Clinton came quoted. Yes but his clearly him. I'm trying to throw you off the but he was actually mad though now. That's a level of insanity. Respect really really him. There's there's a lot of this point quoting himself and then going to the other account. You've never messed up. Never messed up by calling argue with. Oh you're great. Steve was that faced the twenty minutes. Ago Dave Cullen tweeted out I was just reprimanded by the consultant and Gerry Callahan. Ooh Kokkonen the time waiting for the first of all. We should praise him. Oh Yeah I'm sure you will but let's get something. Give me if it's something about going on with us or doing something like fucking lose my mind on Jerry. Jones say might mix up our guest scheduled for next week I also think it very well might be. Why call him wouldn't tweet it out if it was something that's true that obscure you know what I mean? Unless he's insanely pissed because he would do that. Sometime Along with Carmen. Hey I just want to congratulate you on your on your job yesterday today. Oh thank you had a lot of fun guy about this About this tweet about the consultant did what happened. I'm not I'm not liberty to talk about. What did you say what happened? Not Saying I think back to when you're retired. Imagine they're upset. They were upset because I I didn't rail come back because I was wearing. Recall the cameras of the wiring like that so they emailed me at ten o'clock in the morning. I just never even though I said I would be without before Jerry. Do our Jerry's in studio here Tuesday. I heard that today. Actually will you be here I don't know I wasn't being doing. I think I think you wanNA bring your camera to film a big announcement. Jerry's told me he wants to make on Tuesday okay lisov consultants aware I. I was involved in a lot of the discussions. I didn't know that they was a day to Baker announcement. I would say if it were me. Will I know right for me. I would use one of the consultants other podcast to do it. Like the Bob Ryan podcast. Only these other ones the oil Kamboi where this I'm not gonNA follow rap. I'm not going to selling where this hundreds the people listening like. I think you should probably do that. No I'm sure. Did you give this advice Jerry. I'm sure I did certainly did. Surely so you gave you A. B. Plus I think right for your performance yesterday we started at an a minus. Then you talked your way down to. I think be slow at Texas. You'd say good job in Ghana response. I guess you're right. I didn't see that all this morning for classy me and then at that point I was kind of a tax on the next day. Think of using this play by play Guy Jerry's Co host. They never talk what happened now. Here's a nice guy. A couple of people I got to a couple of people and they just didn't get I five which I probably on the shell understood okay. So they didn't get it so oxygen four other than Scott. Whether the if you could do one or two things over what would you have done differently from a director's perspective I'm trying to think that I would do unlock different. I give myself a a what I'd be I'd now you're just saying I'm not a great job day that's darnold. I couldn't predict how much time for things. We're GONNA take a complicating. He's he's capable of better work is what he's saying. Well sure it's not a question if I'm crushing that. But that's that's the product me not at the end of the day the product. So if we did we did get it again next year. What would change a lot a lot of timing things down to different technology faster to actually get the video don? John took a it took five and a half hours to get that done right. Would you make the players. What would you make up the players? I would make up the players players just rolling around pain. Part of it rejects the rear up on. That balcony. Couldn't go down there would you it. Would you have had drug testing for your play guys. I had a burn walked into the for you. You and me next time doing that. I think it felt like a time. That was by HP HP will be making offense. Tomorrow Dave just in case you're wondering yeah that's breaking news we'll get we'll see you Tuesday goodbye. Happy Birthday that was it. That's disappointing. What do you mean I wanted a big jerry really dressed him? I know exactly what happened. I've worked I worked with both those. I'd love to fuck both those idiots that Jerry. It was like you're too busy watching the tennis ball bounce around. What good is that? which by the way not unfair honesty way? Whoa what's he seeing more benefit from Kirkman hand or Jerry Kellyanne? I'm GonNa tell you I'm GonNa tell you exactly what happened. The Consultant Watch that tennis broadcast cast last night and said Holy Fuck. I'm dealing with Dave culinary some guy capable of pulling this off so he gets. He's warm tongue. He's all culminate. I hereby correct. It's really this guy was consultant. By the way we have his name. Bob Snider I think his name is Snyder You may remember him for the Guy who helped like Bob Ryan podcast in these other to quote. You said to say I don't I don't I don't know that you're just not big enough in the industry at to know a guy like yeah that line by the way which I use frequently stolen from the Sopranos the episode with Ben Kingsley. Okay they go to Vegas and they pitch a script Ben Kingsley. The Christmas like it's written by the you know the guy the J. The guy who wrote the script from the the law and order guy. The drug is a familiar with Jay Afloat when there was name isn't isn't thinking I'm not some of you. Be Good in Cleveland. I think it's good. It's particularly this saw meets the Godfather. It is such a good job of making that the exact movie that Christopher would have made stars. Tony Yeah I think what it is looks good. They've class a operation. See why you laughing. Don't play your evil Africa. I don't play breath. He's looking at the work done by the consultant. I'm sure there's a good job. It's so odd to me. The I know I'm sure tale dressed me down for giving my opinions on what he thinks. But Oh Jerry is not listed as point but it's odd to me that Jerry Jones wants the puck because it doesn't like that I make you can't him in fact that make from the atmosphere is coming in Tuesday but he wants to promote something so he knows where to go. That's which is fine. You can help them out. He's perfectly you know right. He's perfectly happy. I'm happy to help him. Out or happy. I get personal satisfaction padding ahead and relations on your new show because a year ago. Congratulations leashes last. Show and somebody was making me for doing a show on an APP a year ago. So the worm turning like this. I take no personal satisfaction. I can't imagine you just to be clear. What are you shaking Ed? I'm just looking more and more th- consultant. I can see you. I can see why they're really hitting it off. All consultants is just bullshit. It's like you had a good stint at ESPN radio great. Sounds pretty good. Doing a podcast doesn't twenty Jerry and Jerry in the mornings. It's not not whatever he'll jerry. Smart Guy Hawaii's up and get rid of that I it soon enough I would think but I think the thing is. I think Steve touched on. It is that they're sensitive because they know the cullens heart his heart is here. Sure that's that's where I was thinking like. Oh I'm Jerry guy but I mean you know where what Steve I mean come on. It's kind of an arranged marriage. Correct correct put together by who you and me right. I was thinking that exact thing as I was watching the Cullinan instagram live. Yesterday I was it was like he could not. He's GonNa Mrs Jerry through the play by play yesterday being part of that world. Hey loves us to do you. Think Jerry a Bob. La Belle plaine pickle ball together. It's not going to get the same. Was the same reaction ridiculous against what are you doing. Shift a chef. Do you think that Jerry's GonNa lay down an ultimatum Mir him and what do you mean no. I don't think he would. Do you think that Jerry is going to tell Dave colonnade you gotta stay away from Kirk. No filling in for Steve. Really Loosing Jerry knows at that point if he does that which is they can do that. But then it's Hayman the fans everyone. Don't listen to this podcast in fact you know. RV RV if that turns out. He's no he's smart guy. I don't think you know Mr Snider. What's your thirty year vet that consultant opinion on pissing off the benefit? Or you know we. Have you enjoyed getting your life. Ruined none. So they're not GONNA do that. He's not he's not he's because we're GONNA get place. Yeah I'm having fun in general who's promoted anything more than we brought fucking pot. I was curious to see what podcast doesn't exist. David go jerry. I mean there is money there. Yeah I mean he's GonNa get paid fort. He's made no dave makes his money. That's true makes money. This is not a money thing so we that would really hurt Cullen is excommunication. That's what Gerry Cole. Name would then be executed point out here. Is that right. He's gone does He. Say Hey this amount of money isn't worth its cord swinging. Dick Guy is I would say whoa. What's The guy runs scored? Patrick is his name. Patrick snapchat trick. Patrick Patrick Okay. Say I don't think thank culinary would choose Jerry. I don't think so either if he issues that ultimatum. I think that that is the downfall of his podcast. Because here's the thing Steve if he thought you were on shaky ground with me. But he's thinking he's more juries. PODCAST WON'T BE AS BIG AS mine. It's GonNa make some money and he can produce and be in charge of A. It's a bad move on his part but that's what he'll do. I don't know I think I think the gray I think he'd say I disagree with the sorry Jerry but if you ask them right now like if he's in Tuesday with Jerry night here Sago Jerry. Yeah of course ultimately the Jerry with the rubber hits the road I always shit hits the fan. The something hits the something when he goes into the ASSHOLE I say. Hey I wouldn't accept a ten million dollars of that. It's not differently. PUT The cash in front of me. You know what I'm saying. That's true that's true. I've said that before this stuff. Is there anything anyone would ever offer you ten million dollars to do so if the answer the Internet. Okay but the That's a good. That's a good question though because I mean all that like you know I'm I'm sure the dairy jerry discord page and the twitter accounts the Perry cancelmi flowing me wrong but I think he loves loves that juice does does. That's all the time and he would. He would be removed from all that stuff of course gone banished brick by brick. Rick Gone Calling Him Burning Party right dancing. It'd be rough. We dancing wild engines. That will happen happen. Chase colony dead on real real account talking about killing parody account Michelin but saying the whole world's gone punk Hooton cast you down with the Sada my whole genius that she's calling in the young man is lovely boy. I'm saying the parody. Hurry account gone wiped out Yes business CONAN. God good riddance. The call name one Duke. colonnade on you think those fucking things without me. I don't I think so. It's Kinda like right sort of like my cellphone on twitter. Oh good I gave out four of his numbers number. So we'll just put number preemptive strike. Even do that did he really. Someone just texted me then. I don't have their. Did that. Really Happen Steve that he docks oxen. Yeah Yeah Oh yeah you did that conversation go. We'll tell you that. The fans wanted a deep cut. If he does that. You'll get that at the old audio from I promise you'll hear that whole thing that's not so you might want calling on probably the funniest thing we've ever done honestly I you know what Cohen says. He's not coming on the ice fishing trip. I think we're GONNA play that up. There parody songs about Kony people can here. ooh Yeah. You'll get some unique audio radio. I'm going to be like Pete Davidson though million dollar over the cell phones shitheads. But it's funny lakeview. Restaurant in Saint Agatha Maine actually offers that as a benefit to go the buffet. They'll zip up people's phones for you. Is that true no of course by the fuck with that true. Why was the joke because it's in Saint Agatha gets a little geography hit the electric? Yes yes most people did interesting. But we'll see I mean we've got some real also in the last hour picked up here. Rigid that was done. I was ready to go the weekend. We're talking about Richard Sherman for the fourth time. Who Jesus all right well? That's a good. We'll find out Tuesday guests. You know of Jerry here Tuesday. We have a bunch of schickel again next week. You think you have a nice quiet week week. Lie Detector Test Looms Now the WASCO looms this live show looms announcements over the big announcements who got major major now. So it's the next few months no no one can. I can't imagine what the big cabinets who knows if you go to because we get the rights for Kurt which I'm off misspelled K. U. R. T. Minium two wins You get all the shirt close you want for the show all the merchandise is it's actually. It's Kirkman hand show. Oh He's got the handle Kirkman. Show DOT com. It's got the handlebars no. Oh I don't think I think you've had. What are you shaking your head that Steve? Nothing what what's wrong. Nothing issue fine. We should get. I mean we're going to sell one hundred and fifty fucking WASCO Aska fishing shirts for people who want their shirts that weekend. Sure right out there yet or no no we gotta we gotta get a design for it. We also want congratulations congratulations Monday. I'm I'm thinking I'm sure a Friday right. No yeah that's a good tenant and there's a good time to do for the holiday season now. I got my sweatshirt again today. I'm a big Fan. It's comfortable we'll put right in rotation so notice. Mike didn't wear his for fear of matching little spread. You saw in the video and I got some nice compliments. I mean I was full. Merged out well you know what I liked. Is that in the pre game show. We went from Steve Wearing his black. Tammy the gray look you in the gray. That's how we doing all right Plenty plenty of get to next week. We'll be back. This was pretty reprehensible I I don't know how it can be anybody's idea humor.

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