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AP Headline News Nov 13 2018 08:00 (EST)

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Ep 16: The Accumulation of Forgetting AND Hope while learning Mandarin Chinese

Changing Scripts: Conversations about Mandarin Chinese with native speakers and learners

48:23 min | 2 years ago

Ep 16: The Accumulation of Forgetting AND Hope while learning Mandarin Chinese

"Welcome to the changing scripts podcast every Sunday. We'll have one of two types of episodes all of them were robbing around learning and using Mandarin. Chinese one type of episode will be my updates on. What I'm learning? How I'm learning it different quirks within language and sometimes information about China itself since I am living in trying high China right now the second type of that zone where I'm interviewing people as it are either learning the language like I am or people who grew up with Mandarin Chinese and the learned other languages the updates used to be on a YouTube channel. But have now migrated over into the podcast only. The interviews started on the YouTube channel as well. And they very quickly ended up on the podcast. So everything's been kind of going back and forth. But I think I think this is where we need to be thin queenie to be in your ear 's really really do. Now having said that the podcast is also available to listen on its own YouTube channel check the show notes, and you can find the link to the YouTube channel there. It's just an audio form if you are studying Mandarin Chinese have city. Mandarin chinese. I'll whether it be as a child doesn't it? Don't you're currently studying you're currently using the language. I would love to interview you. So please contact me. Also, I'm happy to announce that we now have an Amazon affiliate account. What does that mean to you? It means you can support the podcast without actually spending any extra money in the show notes or on my weekly account. So if you go to Steph Puccio S T E P H F, you see CIO dot we w e L Y dot com. All the way to the bottom. You'll notice that there's an Amazon button click on that. And that will bring you to my own very personal podcasting affiliate account with Amazon. Here's how it works. You just click on that link. Shop normally pay get your items be happy and Al get a tiny percentage of whatever you ordered. You. Do not pay anything extra. You also don't get a discount, but you'll get to support the podcast without doing anything super, especially different. I greatly. Appreciate your support. I have one. Fancy new microphone, but I could use the second for my guests, and my computer, it's very quickly dying. And there's a lot of podcast conferences to be honest with you. I'd love to be able to go to. But since this is a passion project kind of needs some help with that. So that's what we're doing. I'm setting up some affiliate accounts and hopefully get some sponsors soon. And hopefully, we can make the podcast even better with each passing season. There's a few ways that you can feedback about what you hear in these two types of episodes in any given episode actually if you go back to that we blew website that I mentioned earlier stuff, Chiro dot we bleed dot com. Go to the contact page, and you will see a bright orange button. That's where you can send me a voice message. Thanks to speak five. I love this service. You can leave me a voice message for free, and I can even reply invoice. Message for him back to you. Let me know what you like we don't like questions you have about the episode's life in general in China learning Mandarin Chinese anything that you're curious about related to. We're talking about on this podcast. Thank you very much for this. Putting the podcast in any which way you can. And I look forward to your feedback. And again, if you know, anybody learning Mandarin Chinese or interested in Chinese culture, especially modern Chinese culture, please do pass on the podcast. These kinds of podcasts are passion projects. They're created from a place of deep interest, and they need to find other people that have those interests in the best way to do that is word of mouth. So you can go fill out an apple podcast review. If you really want to. But honestly, I'd much rather you tell a few of your friends about this podcast, especially if you know, they share this similar interest. Thank you so much, and let's dive into the episode Lola. All right. Hey, welcome back to changing scripts today as home I God, November ninth. Let me tell you what the episodes like. And then I'll tell you all that you need to know about the wonderful mountain that is learning Mandarin Chinese. So I I'm going to tell you two pieces of exciting news as far as the podcast. Goes the Mogo into my language learning update. Then I want to read an article on what Chinese is so frigging hard to learn and then on the positive note, I want to share with you a recent video from Steve Kauffman that with pretty encouraging and hit exactly at the time. I needed it Motivation-wise, then the sound, but I want to leave you with today is actually a rebroadcast from a local poet in China. So let's get started with all of that showy, so pod bean, I love pod bean. They're actually my hosting service. So incredibly biased on this. I have all three of my podcasts on pod bean. The you may have heard of Lipson you may have heard of blueberry, actually, probably only heard if those if you're a podcast or but pod being not only has its own podcasting at but their host of podcast, and they've been the easiest the best customer service hosting site. I've had in the past two years. In addition to that, they also have a blog which I have only recently discovered, and they were generous enough to. To highlight us in language third-inning article that they did which is super exciting. And I'll put the link down in the show notes, please. If you have any friends who like learning languages pass this article around because it's not just me folks there, I'm in some really cool company in this article. Anyway, so we've got let's who's my company in this article. It's a news insulin Russian proper Russian Chinese pod who I've met so many people that love that particular podcast. And I feel like I need to check it out again after my test in December. We'll talk about that scene journey detainees. Fluency changing scripts. He one thing in a French day. That's a cool title intermediate French podcast easy. French love France as fest you I'm saying that wrong, rock and roll English. Real English conversations English fragile verb podcast man that needed. Speaking Brazilian podcasts. Lovey-dovey Inness baniel dueling goal Spanish podcasts. Learn German by podcast German island. Those are the folks that share the article with me and oh my goodness. It's really cool, and they actually pod pain. Does this it for many different themes, depending on what's happening? Like, for example. They just did a US politics podcasts to listen to during the midterm elections that just just commenced on that kind of thing. So I'm really excited and thank you had being for recognizing such a new. We're can progress podcast such as this. The other thing is I may have talked about it before. But to to pod is growing. This is a YouTube project that grew out of the international podcast day online conference where there are many sessions where people just kept saying so many people still don't know about podcasts. So many people still don't listen to podcasts. It's not a part of a lot of people's days yet. So because I was doing both YouTube channels and podcasts I feel like I can kind of bridge the two or at least help to bridge the two mediums, and at least make people aware YouTube viewers aware, I feel like I can be someone that. Can help you to viewers become aware of podcast. Now, not everybody on YouTube wants to give up YouTube, and I don't certainly don't wanna take that away from them. But there's content on YouTube that has lovely pairings of podcast that could go with it. So I mean this as a way to encourage you to viewers to bridge over and supplement their YouTube Ewing with some podcasts, and let's face it podcast travel better during or workday than than YouTube dozen most places and they're much better on your data plan. If you don't have an unlimited data plan, and you don't run into polls walking down the street listening to a podcast as you might. Well, watching a video I haven't run into a pole, but I've definitely fallen off of sidewalks of. Yes. So to to pod what is it? It is a YouTube channel where we're just basically answering three questions and the questions might change. But right now, it is where do you listen to podcasts. Like, do you? Listen to them on your commute. You listen to the mall, you how. Housework that kind of thing. Why do you listen to podcasts? The reason why you listen to them. What is it that you get out of them? And the third question is what's your favorite one right now? And I included right now. Because if you're like me, you always listening to new podcast, and you're always you always have a new favorite. So the right now is super important what I wanna do with. This is the sparkle that people have when they talk about podcast visually available to YouTubers. So they can see, hey, there's a podcast for almost every interest. And then come over and test them out if you would like to create a video for this YouTube channel, I would love to have you. It's under two minutes, and you can contact me the E mail, that's easiest way. Many people have different ways to send videos. So I'm not going to pretend that there's one way to do this. So go ahead and contact me it Steph Puccio at gmaiLcom S T E P H F U C C. I O g mail dot com. Semi a quick Email, and we will figure out the easiest way for you. You too. Of course, something very quickly on your phone. And then send it to me. So I can upload it to that YouTube channel, I'm very excited about this. I think we have about five video so far. And that's just from people around me that said, I love podcast, and I said can I get that on tape? And they said, yes, okay. Onto my learning update. I am taking three language chest this year. I have taken a just K one in ages K to those are the official the official Mandarin Chinese tests globally. There's no other test. That's their six total. I've taken one in to ace them. They're all receptive skills. Which means it's all listening and reading at that point one into three includes some writing and by writing they mean word order exercises an actual physical writing. Now, I'm not taking the paper test was which is where you have to actually write out the characters and have the correct stroke order in those kinds of things and they claim they can tell I'm still skeptical. I'm taking the computer test. So I'm going to use the pinion input pinions reminiscent of. The language. So I'm going to use the pinion input with the keyboard to bring up the characters. You still have to recognize them. It's not as easy as it sounds. But it's easier than you think have think about that one. So I'm going to do that. So there's basically lots of listening. There's forty questions of listening. It's a ninety minute test. I did part of the first practice tests last week. There's forty listening questions some of them start with pictures that you match with what you're listening to those are still relatively easy. I get a lot of those right? Then you move onto just words words. So you're looking at ABMC options. It's usually just phrases that you're looking at in just the hunter characters pinions gone now, there's no more crutch with this test. And you're listening to a conversation, and you have to pick the quote, unquote answer or thing that matches what you're listening to there's forty of those and they get increasingly harder as you go from set of five questions to a set of five questions too. Edify questions. I got I think fifty five percent in my first practice test of those forty questions listening, which is less than even passing for the first two tests. I got about ninety five percent overall for the actual test. Not a practice test preaches K one in ages K two I got about ninety five percent. I was if you go back and look at the videos of my impressions right after taking the test. I was very iffy. Because especially the second one there's a lot of. Okay, Bula thrown in that is not on the list. And I felt really lost still got a ninety five percent. There are no productive skills in these tests. None you don't speak. You don't write out sentences those come later, and I don't know if you have to write full sentences or paragraphs in four h k four, but you definitely do in five and six and these tests are not leveled out in a way that is. Kind. Good. The jump from two to three is John. I probably should have spent a year instead of six months studying k three and the jump to four is enormous. The jump to five and six is absolutely positively enormous. So they are more like exponentially different than they are equally weighted having said that I haven't done the reading yet. I'm waiting for the answer key. I don't wanna do the reading and not get instant gratification. So that should be coming in today. So I believe tomorrow, I'll be doing all of the reading for my practice test. And then all score that sucker and see if that can lift up. My listening score there's twenty chapters in the book, the study book, the standard course book. That's what it's actually called. Standard. Course, it's super good in preparing you for the test. And as far as language teaching goes, it's probably as good as you can get in a textbook. The problem isn't the teaching of Mandarin Chinese. The problem is language textbooks. The genre itself. Is archaic and it's broken, but within that broken nece. This is as good as you're gonna get. They have a lot of recycling vocabulary that is important to retain it. They have a lot of different kinds of exercises, etc. Etc. I just started chapter nineteen of twenty yesterday. And I'm going to be doing that chapter of few times before I go into chapter twenty starting on Sunday. It's Friday I start the last Hector sent hey as far as flash cards go. I've got the last of the flash cards. So I have all of the flash cards. I'm going to need for the K three list, which again isn't everything that's going to be on the test. But everything that they say will be on the test. So all of that are in my flash card decks there in various stages and various exercises, and I'm reviewing them kind of frantically at this point because I want as much in my head as possible on like when I studied Spanish even an intensive environment by. Hours a day kind of thing. There's no handicap with Chinese you either know it or you don't there's no and this will come up in the article in a few minutes. But if you don't know the vocabulary, there's nothing you can do. If you don't know the grammar, the the vocabulary can get you far. And you might miss some nuance. But you cannot not no the vocabulary that met double negative was very intentional, folks. So I am heavy on vocab. And thank God for that. Because this is the language for me to be learning for that to be true one thing that I found interesting, and this is from chapters is from our you chapter last week chapter fifteen I'm still trying to figure out where time is not where it is. But I I still have issues with time. The nuanced way that made her in Chinese deals with time in a sentence in English. We have verb tenses. We have inflected verbs. I came. I went I have gone. We changed the verbs as time changes, not always. But generally, yes, we do use present tents for different things that are not in the present. But we're doing that for a second. Generally, speaking, the verb changes that is not true in Chinese will chew is to is eat in present past simple. Perfect. At all time ranges look at the time line. It's all there. It's all chip to you eat you eat you eat. But there are other words in the sentence thought tell you these things so I'm struggling with this. So in the conversation in ages K, three standard course, book listening chapter fifteen number sixteen who there we go? There's a conversation between a woman and a man, and they literally just name them new and non just man woman. And man, that's it's not worth playing this necessarily because I want to actually get a little bit more of my bad tones onto tape. So I can look back a year from now and go. Wow, I've gotten better so a little bit into the conversation. The woman says we out shoot show how your Cy. And I should've practiced this more, right? I'm actually shaking doing this on tape. Oh my God. Okay. Let me do that. Again, we OSHA how your side to Shang Hsi-wei e why're. Okay. So basically if you were to directly translate which is not advisable, but about to do it is I have time also in car in sleep a little bit a while. I think a wild probably a better translation of of that of e choir. So basically, I went and looked up in Google translate. As I do sometimes because I can type all of those words, I'm familiar with all of those words in their individuality in their individual nece. And so I type them in and Google translate said it said I will need to sleep in the car for a bit. Okay. So where is the will? Where is the future? In this sentence because I have time that title don't think that means future. Does that mean future? Like in the car is clear side should is in car Shung sh- way. I'm not entirely sure why Shung is there? But I'm sure that's explained in the time chapter that I haven't fully absorbed yet, no time, but the movement placement chapter I've saw last night and went oh, I need to make better notes. So I'm sure that's in there. So let's just assume that Zaid show strong sway is in the car. I sleep. But there's still no will there's still no future in that. And the wire is just for a while. So where is the will? Where is the future is the future? Literally in that initial Yoshua. How I don't know. I don't know. So I'm kind of struggling with this. So in some ways, I feel like there's two time indicators here one is that I have time. And the other is that for awhile. And yet with those two time indicators I feel like there's no indication of future. So these are the kind of struggles that I'm having with being clear on how time is expressed in Chinese, and I wanted to get that specific example on tape because I think once it becomes clear once I can stay here and see those more I feel like it'll it'll be like a shining moment. And it'll be wonderful. And it'll feel really good that I hear that struggle after I don't have it anymore, and I go I did break pass that because there are so many stepping stones to learn in this language. There's so many parts of climbing this mountain that I do want to not just share the triumphs of those beautiful ninety five percents of the tests self, but I want to share the struggle. So I can see that I've overcome certain things as well. So let's see flash cards practice tests and time. Time issues. I think those are the the big things and where I am in the book. So I'm starting chapter twenty in two days. Do I want to give you a motivation level right now, it's probably five in some ways, I'm feeling determined. And in some ways, I feel very very defeated. I was hoping at this point in the process this close to h is K three that I would have more productive skills, which is extremely unrealistic. My main goal is reading that's what I have been practicing and moving towards for about a year. The fact that I thought in within the last two or three months of h k three which would have been timber Tober November those three months the fact that I thought I could start focusing on speaking more and being able to produce these words that I've only dealt with going from Chinese to English to meaning to circling ABC was ridiculous goal. And I need to put it down right now in order to absorb what I can to move forward. I can easily shift the goal to after December second I should in fact do that because trying to add another component to that. Even when I've already upped my studying from two hours to three plus hours a day just working on the materials for these frigging killer chapters from chapter ten of chapter twenty they're insane. And they're super hard. And they're nuanced vocabulary and grammar that I was not prepared for just to keep up with that. I had. To increase almost double the amount of time. I was spending. Now, I'm not going to the point where I feel like my brain falling out. But I definitely pushing my limits of what I can do in one given day. And I don't like cramming, which is why I'm doing three hours a day. Now as opposed to six hours a day a week before the test because I don't think that's productive at all. I do want to retain the information that I'm studying even if it is to be used in a slightly different way afterwards. So I need to put that goal down the goal of speaking even in a rough form before this test in less than less than a month is not going to happen. So it considerate down. I know a lot of people fight with me and cut a two out when I say, I am not worried about speaking just yet. However, I thought it would come slightly more naturally. Than it is especially with all the listening practice. I thought I would have more of a rhythm to my speaking. And you just heard an example of how I don't and to be fair when I'm reading an English I found choppy too. So there's some bit of a transfer there for my L one for my first language. I don't mind starting with reading. I it's something I've never done with a language before. And I have never learned a language before I've never stayed motivated long enough to get fluent enough. So that's what I'm doing differently. This time is focusing on the skills that I enjoyed the most and that is reading I do want it to bridge over into speaking. At some point, I have conjured up a few different circumstances where I need I want to use my speaking skills. I want to use my oral communication skills as they're often called an academic, which so frigging weird. So this podcast is already rated explicit Silla me to tell you the story so way back in different country outside of my passport country of the US where a bunch of us were. Teaching English and some people were doing like a language contest because of this oral communication title in many language class, Vinnie speaking, language classes overseas. At the end of her turn at this oral competition. She was like this fifteen year old girl. I think if I remember right, and I wasn't out the competition. So this is pretty much hair say, but it could make up a few tried anyway. So she looked up and she said thank you for this opportunity. I hope you enjoyed my oral Hicks pets GIO pats. Would you do with the annoying paper mail that you get to your old addresses in your home country for a few years? I'd have all of my male forward to one friend in that I'd feel guilty for bothering them so much. So then I'd have family member deal with my mail, and so on and so forth. And I did this for bell. Like what twelve thirteen years, and it got annoying, and let's face it. I miss a male because people have better things to do than look after my paper correspondence. So I finally broke down and got a service from traveling mailboxes. They will literally receive your mail. You get a US address you get to pick the city that it's in and. You receive mail, and they'll let you know when mail comes in they'll open it scan it for UC can read it if you really need to go forward it to you for fee. You can also get packages delivered as well. And so there's like a variety of different services that you can have where you don't have to keep bugging your friends and family to deal with your paper mail. So if he go to Steph, Fujio dot we bleed dot com, it's S T E P H F U C C, I dot we bleed W E B L Y dot com. If you go to the bottom, you'll see the blue add on the right traveling mailbox click on that I am now an affiliate program with them. So if you join their services, we both end up very, very happy campers, and you never have to ask your friends or family to receive your mail again. It's truly a beautiful thing. I want to turn to this article that Eric one of the first people I interviewed for this podcast gave me months and months ago. So. So I wanna make this a very quick review. It's why Chinese is so damn hard by David Moser university of Michigan center for Chinese studies. I appreciate that someone that deep into the language still thinks it's hard. I really do. There are some sort of. Solis and knowing that it's not just me. Whereas another language is when I was trying to learn Spanish, I knew so many people that picked it up. So so rapidly and so- fluently, and so beautifully, and I was never that person. So there's there's slight something slightly beautiful and not being alone in the difficulty of this. So I'll put the link in the show notes. Definitely I wanna basically just share the reasons he gives an a little bit of the conclusion that he talks about with this. So here's the reasons why he gives why it's so hard number one. And I'm just going to read these as they are number one. Because the writing system is ridiculous. Number two. And he does flesh these out. So go to the article if you'd like to read these number two because the language doesn't have the common sense to us and alphabet number three because the writing system just ain't very phonetic. Number four because you can't cheat by using cognitive, and I talked about that earlier in this episode number five because even looking up a word in a dictionary as complicated. Number six, then there's classical Chinese one Yemen. But I'm sure I've mispronounced number seven because there are too many Romanisation methods, and they all suck number eight because tonal languages are weird number nine because east is east and west is west and the twain have only recently met, so he says in his conclusion I could go on and on. But I figure if the reader has bothered to read those farm preaching to the converted anyway, those who have tackled other difficult languages have their own litany of horror stories. I'm sure, but I still feel reasonably confident in a certain that for an average American that's me Chinese significantly harder to learn than any of the other thirty or so major world languages that are usually studied formally at the university level, and he goes on a little bit later in the conclusion someone once said that learning Chinese is, quote, a five-year lesson in humility, unquote. I used to think this meant that at the end of five years you will. Master Chinese and learned along the way. However now having steady Chinese for over six years. I have concluded that actually the phrase means that after five years your Chinese will still be abysmal. But at least you will have thoroughly learned humility. My husband does Brazilian jujitsu. Sometimes when I hit a wall with Chinese hill. Remind me that black belts in Asia. Like in the west, we tend to see black belt martial arts is being a master. And he said that when he was in Korea, they explained to him that a black belt, basically means you're done with the basics. And you're gonna start learning now that seems to coincide with learning Mandarin Chinese as well is. And that seems to be what the author is saying here is that after five years, you have the basics, you know, of the basics you might not be using them. Great. But you are aware of what you should know what you should do how you should sound that kind of thing. So it sounds like the five year, Mark. Holy cow. I have a long way to go. And again, it's slightly. Disconcerting that I have ventured up this gigantic mountain and having to focus on something as intense as learning to read Mandarin Chinese has given me a bit of a grounding of bit of a structure to my life in a time period. When a lot of things are uncertain, and that that that is something that I was not expecting this crazy crazy language transition to do there's something about studying these crazy characters and trying to figure out the cultural differences that come through in the grammatical structures and word order and nuances that I was not expecting to exist in the language. There's something about that distraction that has been very comforting in a time when I'm trying to reshape my life in general in the middle of all of this studying and feel like I'm forgetting lots of stuff like literally recognize one word one day and the rest of the week. All forget it. And it'll come. Back the next week. Like, there's this constant remembering and forgetting that's happening, and I've never studied one single language this long, consecutively. So I'm not familiar with what's normal in language learning. And I'm trying to just keep doing tasks. That's why I have so many different kinds of tasks 'cause I keep I'm why I'm been trying to quantify some of them is because of the one thing I have literally never done in my attempts. My constant stubborn attempts. To try to get a second language under my belt is keep going. The one thing. I have never done is to just keep going regardless of everything else. Regardless of my mood, regardless of how much I get wrong that day, regardless of how much I don't understand. I just tried to finish a task finish this listening finish this right word order activity that I usually get one out of five on one out of five that should be the most discouraging thing in the world and in order to combat that I make a chart of how many I do. I don't put down my score. I put down the date, and I'm just trying to keep practicing. Let's very new for me. I am usually very easily discouraged by language, thanks to pushing through all of these motivational things and thanks to starting out at such a basic level and reading being so difficult. I've had so many language learning flashbacks to when I was learning English, which is why in the interview episodes. I ask the questions. About people's first language experience. Because I want to know if I'm alone. In remembering these struggles learning a first language? There's this allusion that first language is just come naturally to a child, and if you've ever watched a child learn a language it's years of stumble and fall, and and stumble and fall and stumble and fall and every time we get up and do it better. There's a different part of the language we're learning, and then we go to high school Miller in this kind of language, and then we go to university, and we learn this kind of language let me go to our jobs, and we learned that part of the language. So there's always a stumbling fall truly to be honest, but we learn how to fake it a lot better after we exit puberty than before. But I'm having constant flashbacks on my struggle with English. As I was growing up. And I imagine those might have come up when I was studying Spanish, although I doubt it because the reading barrier wasn't as big because the script is so similar, but through all of these all I can do is keep going the all I can do. So in the middle of one of these fits this week where I just felt like looking at the fifty percents of my daily vocabulary task cards. I write on the date, and how much I get right and how much wrong and looking at all of the fifty percents that persist in these packets really feel like I'm not learning. I really feel like I'm not learning. Now, I'm adding new words to these all the time. So the fact that I'm keeping fifty percent. With new words should be seen as some sort of progress. But I don't feel that way in the middle of all this frustration. I get a notification that Steve Kauffman seriously seriously in impressive, language, learner, language user language. Content creator because he is the head of the creator of link ally and cue which is on my list of things to help me study after I leave h is K in December. I get a notification that he has a new video and the title made me laugh and Thira political. And the title is forgetting words means I'm learning them. I could not hit play any faster than I did. And he has such an objective methodical view of learning languages. He doesn't get own mostly tied up in lack of progress and difficulty being emotional. Like, I do he's very very matter of factly. And he has to be fair been learning languages his entire adult life, and you can go onto his channel and read about his history and stuff to get that full story, which is fascinating. But he spends about five minute video talking about when he starts to forget words. And then he remembers them he knows he's learning like for him the forgetting. Is an indication that he's learning because he says when you when you forget them, you think you learn them you forget them. Then you learn them again each time. You remember them? You're learning them deeper. That's his theory. I want to believe this so much. I really really really want to believe this that was very very encouraging. And so I kept going with my fifty percent success rate on my flash cards, and I will keep going with them, regardless of if they go up and from fifty percent or not 'cause they're definitely not going to increase if I don't do anything. So thank you Steve Kaufman for that very very timely video I'll put the link down on the show notes below or you can just go to YouTube channel forgetting words means I'm learning them as the name of it finally today, the audio I want to leave you with is not in ages K audio. It is in audio that I put on my the detaining scripts YouTube channel about a month ago, just before I discontinued the vigilance of the channel, and it is a it is a poem from a Chinese author who I contacted and I wanted to interview him, but his language his English skills are not up to par. My chinese. Are not up to par. So one of the things to get me to want to be able to speak Chinese more than I do. Now is I'd love to interview people like him who inspire me? How do I even know about him? If I couldn't read stuff because he was published in a publication. I'll talk about in this in this bet I'll give you the full the full the full story a give you the full story. But he was he was published by link Wilfley. So I could look at the Chinese and read the English and encode back and forth. When I wanted to learn some new words that were in the English that I wanted to see in the Honda characters. So he was gracious enough to send me an audio clip that I could use for this project. So that's what I want to leave you with is inspiring Chinese poetry that has a very deep deep meaning that I'm still thinking about still trying to interpret, and I hope someday I can interview him about this poem in Chinese as a very long term goal. But I'm willing to have that goal because I think you gotta have goals and just keep going. Is a method, but you need some goals to right? I think so I live in China. And there are a number of amazing literary organizations, the this lovely city and some of them are bilingual some of them are only in English. And I imagine there are some only in Chinese, but I'm not familiar with those because I can't read literary works in Chinese yet. Although what happened August twenty seventh is kinda shifting my goals a little bit. And I'll explain that. When we got there. What of the magazines is spit? Tune. And it does have it does have stuff bilingually. So when I don't understand a word or phrase, I can look over at the English in kind of acquaint what's happening where and so I found through this number of times. And I made a note was like post it's because I live in post its and I wanted to contact son cook is his name. I wanted to figure out. How to include him one of my projects because his poem that you're going to hear soon, really, really? Really reached me in a way that I did not expect and he is Chinese, and I don't believe he I don't know. I don't know because two of my projects ex Pat lifestyle based and one is turning language based. Thank you, Simon spitoon. He put me in contact with Santa and conversation via we chat. Translation, thank goodness that exists in sued, and he doesn't speak English, and I can't really speak Chinese very much right now. So one of the goals for the future that that it's come up because I've been interviewed a lot of people about their creative projects is I think part of me wants to work a hair more on speaking. So that I can speak to people like him when I come across their stuff, and they don't speak English because I would love to actually ask him some things and see if he does fit into any of my projects, and if he doesn't already have exposure to the English language, medium mediums that exists media that it media of. Of course, that's plural. Anyway, that exist I would like to share him with the rest of the English-speaking world because this homes to soap youthful. I'm sure his other work would be equally if not more beautiful. So this little event where I was able to get in contact with this local poet, I think he's up in Beijing if I understood correctly, but I don't again, I wasn't able to really do a lot of conversation. But what we did say back and forth. Thank goodness to we translate. And we basically the more than more than Facebook. It's like every social media in the west in one app. My told him I had learning Chinese YouTube channel and putt cast. And I really wanted to share his poem in the podcast. I wanted to ask for his permission. That was the whole reason for reaching out initially. I did want to interview him too. But at minimum I wanted to share the poem knowing that I wasn't stepping on anybody's, copyright or rights or just desires, I live in this world. I live. In this country. And I I want to respect artists views of where they want their stuff to exist as much as possible. So contacted him had a little bit of a conversation back and forth. And then key offer to record it for the podcast. And I ve into the third gasping for about half an hour because I think that is such a genuinely beautiful thing for someone to do. It's amazing. Because poetry is is something that is beautiful on paper and can be equally but slightly different beautiful when spoken especially by the author. Who knows exactly where the the intensity was when he wrote it. So here's what I wanna do. Because I don't know what else to do with it. I don't think it fits into the podcast because I can't I can't dissect it with whom I can ask him about his life and things like that yet. So I'm going to put it here in video form, and I will share it with him. Although I understand that. I'm not able to talk about how much his poem touches me in Chinese. As yet. So as a future goal, I would like to be able to do that in a way that he can watch this even if after download it off of YouTube and send it to him. I want to be able to tell him that at some point and to ask him questions about it. Because I am made of questions. My whole existence is questions. I. I ask a lot of questions. So I don't want to follow him because he reads it so emotionally a here's what I'll do. I'll do the English. I'll share why like it's much then I'll play his because I think his reading is so beautifully intense that I would like to end on that. Anyway, again, a tune is the name of the literary magazine, I can separate my soul from my body this morning, my soul managed to separate from my body. Not like the movies in a movie a spirit floats up shadow like from the sleeping flesh. But my case was this. I woke up from sleep suddenly sitting up in bed to be precise. It was my body that set up in my bed. My soul was left in a dream whenever my wife tried. I couldn't hear her listening is what a soul does. Well, the bodies ears without the nature of the soul. Become merely unplugged record player record player. I sat there perplexed. Myopic is without glasses were especially huge and lost that moment as I would only understand later was the moment of soul body separation. Everyone has had such a moment when the body wakes and the soul remains in its dream to live a life with the people there to share words and enjoy time even to debate fiercely in English more fluent than waking to be intimate with loved ones to burn ethics and taboos to grey ashes to sometimes face unprecedented nuclear disasters or to explore the future of human society as in science fiction joy in pain or both multiplied in intensity yet. I can soar unafraid even way up in the sky except there's a slight chill up here. And it makes my non dreaming Audie shudder. It's interesting because when I read this a few months ago when I I read a few months ago, I was thinking it was. Kind of like a soul exploratory thing during dreaming. An in this reading right now it is abundantly clear that it's about death. I thought maybe it was the beginning the first time, but I really I reread it a few times that I thought out of says clearly just leaving having an out of body experience going back. And I wonder I wonder why I was thinking that I'm sure it could be both ways. And again, we'll be super curious to ask him. And for those of you that can understand that Chinese version. That's coming up in his own words, literally if there's any clarity within the Chinese that tells us is it definitely a death or a out of body experience. Please let me know down in the comment section. I can't fully understand the Chinese yet. Although he won't to. Listening is. But a sole does. I don't know if I'll be as intrigued by the Chinese phrases once I'm able to read them. But I really like how it is translated. I really like the delicacy of the words. I really liked the ideas, I like the peacefulness that overcomes the person in the poem. I'm not generally drawn to poetry. So I was a little Florida. I thought some of the the fiction here of might have been more actually they're fiction here. Think there's very very short stories. I think I think you think oh, I I didn't show you there's a few things by him didn't realize that it's been quite a while since the first time I picked this up. And there is not a picture. But there's this information. Now, even more curious to talk to him is really good magazine. Anyway. Okay. Without further ado because this is about him in his creation. Not just my reaction. And how he's given me a new goals language learning in the future. So thank you shish Niessen cook, we here's his reading. Joel. Joel. What home? Won't crash. It I go. He go. What a team question. Was that change? Show. Drink judicial she showed that show. Trajan without monthly. The material we team. Team. Are you? Are you want me what do you to put our toilet with DNV with the tone? What? Consciousness. To you team. You ain't that you should team. Ours hitting the co at the heart me. Kit. A whole I was beaten by. To fill the shook. Oh. Chicago. Joe teach you lie. Are you? Too. You. Should you TV the two? Shoot. Do what? Though, not being trend. Tussle your kids for you. The husband. What are you could shoot issue with Aleve? I. See you. Nice. Factual. Ars? Yes, I go to. You know? Jeez. Johnny. Britain on September. Twenty sixth two thousand sixteen at eight thirty five. Shinde Simon and spitoon magazine and shish any Sonko. Partout coming up next year. So next week we have sway coming in for a long form interview. He was a colleague of mine when I was at Iowa State University starting but not finishing a PHD program in applied linguistics, and technology, and he is simply brilliant. I think you'll really enjoy his interview next week. He was born and raised in China and moved to the US for his education, and he'll tell you more about that next week. So that's coming up next week as for right now, I need to get my us out of here. And I need to go study my three or four hours today before a slight pampering session tonight. Yes, I need a massage. All right more soon. And thank you for listening. And please do share this podcast with anybody who is interested in language learning, or in modern Chinese culture or Mandarin Chinese language. Thank you so much word of mouth is super important to projects like this. And I really really appreciate your forwarding this podcast. Thank you such. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the changing scripts podcast, again, if you are learning the Chinese language, or if you're coming from the Chinese language learning another language, I'd love to interview you for this podcast. Please feel free to contact me in any social media ways that you see God and contact me, and we will hash out how to get you on the sound creation knows the changing scripts podcasts a lot more coming your way soon.

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MBA1363 Guest Teacher: Steve Kaufmann  How To Learn A New Language

The $100 MBA Show

14:39 min | 1 year ago

MBA1363 Guest Teacher: Steve Kaufmann How To Learn A New Language

"Welcome to the NBA show more than just a business podcasts business coaching insights and lessons every day with our daily business lessons for the real world your host or coach or teacher Omar's in home. I'm also the CO founder of the hundred dollar. Mba Business Training and community online. It's an episode is a guest S. Teacher episode on our guests. Each episode we invite an expert to teach their area of expertise in today's guest teacher is. Steve Kaufman and he'll be teaching you how how to learn a new language. Today's episode is a bit diff-. You might be asking. Why do I need to learn a new language as an entrepreneur why why did have. Steve teached this lesson today well. It's very simple. I believe that the number one skill for every entrepreneur is clear communication communication skills. If you can communicate your ideas your thoughts your message whether it's to your team to your customers to your partners to who your affiliates whatever they are you have that competitive advantage over your competition now matching you can do that at scale with different languages coaches. Are you kidding me. Most people can't do it with their own language. Learning a new language can tremendously help you understand not only how to communicate in in that language but also to understand the culture and the people of that language so you can serve them better want you to just trust me. I've been with you for over thirteen thirteen hundred episodes. This is going to help. Give today's lesson to try and you will not regret it. Teddy's Kaufman is the founder of link DOT COM. That's L I N G Q dot Com. He's been a diplomat and entrepreneur for years but now he's dedicated his life to helping people learn languages quickly quickly. This is going to be really really fun and interesting so let's get into it. Let's get down to business the show is brought to you by just works with just works entrepreneurs and their teams get access to high quality affordable benefits automated automated payroll compliance support an HR tools all in one place in case. You didn't start a company to file payroll taxes and track. PTO just works. It did get two free months when you go to just works dot com slash. NBA Today's guest coffin believes that anyone anyone can learn a new language in fact Stephen Seventy four years old and has learned ten languages just in the past few years. He's GonNa show you how you you can expand your communication skills by picking up a new language without frustration in a new and novel way. I'm going to pass onto Steve will be back to wrap up the episode for now takeaway. Steve Hi. My name is Steve Kaufman and I'm GonNa talk today about how you can change your life life. I changed my life when I became a speaker. A fluent speaker in a second language French and then went on to learn twenty-one languages. His learning languages has helped me in my career as a diplomat as a senior executive in the forest industry and then in the last thirty two years in running my own successful businesses in international trade. You may think that learning another language depends on some special talent or that you have to be born into a family where people speak many languages but this is absolutely not so learning another language depends ends on your attitude and how you use your learning time traditional language instruction focuses on grammar and that's the way they did needed in school and it makes language learning difficult in fact it discourages people from learning languages. It teaches languages backwards words. There is a much more efficient way to learn languages and that's the way I learn languages in fact in the last twelve years I I have learned eleven languages and I'm seventy four years old but I do it by using my time efficiently and because I understand understand how the brain learns languages you have to let the brain get used to the sounds and the structures and the words Avenue language before you worry about explanations about how the language works. We can't understand these explanations. We can't do the grammar drills that we had to do in school because we don't have enough experience with the language now today with modern technology. MP Three Technology the Internet Youtube Net flicks there are so many opportunities to connect necked with interesting things in another language and to allow the language to come into your brain so that eventually you're going to be able to speak the language. Not People always say. I don't have time to learn another language but that's because they don't know that in order to find the the time to learn another language you have to focus on listening. You have to focus on listening to things that are meaningful to you. I start my day okay by listening to the latest language that I'm learning while I'm making breakfast. I listen in the car. I listen while working out and then when I listen then of course there are things that I didn't understand so then I go and read and nowadays with online dictionaries and a whole host of modern functionality. I'm able to mine what I was listening to and while I'm now trying to read I can mine it for the words words and the phrases that I'm going to use in order to be able to speak in the language so initially have to focus on understanding the language getting learning the language into you building up your familiarity with the language building up your vocabulary then when you start to speak you will be less frustrated frustrated. You'll be less frustrated because you aren't trying to nail down grammar rules. You aren't trying to do tests. You aren't trying to remember things. You're just naturally instinctively using the words and phrases that have been ingrained engrained in your mind through an efficient process of learning now. All of this does depend on your attitude. You have to believe you can do it. You have to establish regular habits like my habit of listening every day. You have to stay with the task and that's why the most important thing in language learning is not worrying about how well you're doing or what you can say or what mistakes you made. The important thing is to stay active and that's why in the APP that I use for language learning. We measure the activity level. How many many hours did I listen. How many words that I read how many words that I learned and as long as I can see that I'm staying active then. I know that that I will eventually improve in the language so you have to create these habits you take the initiative. You'RE YOU'RE Q. Is that you want to learn another other language and you try to visualize yourself speaking that language and you have to give yourself credit that you will eventually learn to speak that language so so now you have this motivation and you're developing good habits and you will see the results and if you stay on task you will achieve what I achieved and that is developing a whole range of friends and friendships in different in countries amongst people of different linguistic groups and of course a successful career as I said at the beginning a successful career career as a diplomat and then as a senior forest industry executive on four continents and then all of that enabled me to who established my own successful business. If you speak more languages more opportunities will come your way however it's up to you as an individual. Take that initiative to say. I want to learn another language. I believe I can learn another language. It's not difficult to learn another language. I just have doer stab certain habits habits of listening and reading and then eventually as these words and phrases build up in my brain and as I sensed this desire to want to use the language then I go out and I speak but when I speak I don't worry about the mistakes I make because if you are worried about the mistakes if you are worried about trying to remember fine points of grammar this will inhibit you on the other hand. If you just take it as it comes speak say what you think is the right thing to say you will involve yourself with a language more and the result is is that eventually you will speak better so that a lot of people in learning languages. They're too concerned about being correct or speaking well how at an early stage and this inhibits them. The correct approach is to involve yourself with the language listening reading speaking taking enjoying it without worrying about how accurate your usage is because you are confident that if you put in the time you will eventually achieve the results that you want and I assure you that once you have transformed yourself into a comfortable and fluent speaker of one new language or maybe two or three new languages your life will be changed. If you develop good language learning habits listen every day EH and follow up with reading the way I've described here you will make significant improvement even in just a few months but language learning is is a long distance event. It's not a sprint you have to stay with it in order to become fluent so I would like to offer to all of the eight hundred dollars. NBA Listeners a one year subscription to link where you get an additional five percent off on the annual premium which is actually thirty five percent off the monthly price so to take advantage of this offer go to link DOT COM L. I N G Q dot Com slash. Mba for more details and now back to Omar support for today's show comes from honey book when you dreamt of starting a business. Did you dream about all those adleman tasks like drafting proposals and contracts. I sure didn't about tracking down payments. That's a huge pain. If that was part of your vision you need honey book online business management tool that organizes your client communications nations bookings contracts and invoices all in one place honey book makes it simple to run your business better. How do they do this. They provide professional templates email signatures igniters and built an automation that way everything is on track and honey book can even consolidate services that you already use like quickbooks. 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My parents are rejection and we grew up speaking Arabic at home and I definitely can see what he's saying. It's a lot easier to understand or pick-up language. When you're familiar with the sounds I know this firsthand even today because Nicole and her family Italian and when they speak Italian in front of me I've I've picked up so many words and I can understand about fifty percent of the conversation now just by being around the Italian language hearing it and being immersed in it picking up a new new language can be your businesses superpower and at the very least it's going to give you a challenge to overcome and build resilience and grit. Thanks thanks so much for listening to the hundred ambience show. Don't forget the checkout linked dot com slash. NBA That's L. I N G Q dot Com slash. Mba so you can grab grabs. Steve's gift to us to get started with language learning before I go. I WanNa leave you with this. 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Ep 22: Von: Mandarin Chinese Language & Brain Burn

Changing Scripts: Conversations about Mandarin Chinese with native speakers and learners

47:58 min | 2 years ago

Ep 22: Von: Mandarin Chinese Language & Brain Burn

"Welcome to the changing scripts podcast for about fifteen years. I was teaching the English language both overseas mostly in Asia. And then in the US, and I found it really fascinating the things that the Chinese language users were doing in the classrooms, and I always wanted to get on the other side of that. And when I came back to live and Shanghai China in two thousand seventeen I decided to really really focus on learning. Mandarin Chinese I have a YouTube channel that follows my process this podcast is where I'm interviewing people that are learning the language, and I'm also interviewing people that grew up with Mandarin. Chinese this week on changing scripts podcast. I am really excited to welcome Vaughn to the podcast. He's been studying Mandarin Chinese for about five years. Now. Let's listen to what he has to say. Thank you so much one per journey me on the changing scripts podcast for me. Can you tell them listeners a little about your Skogen studying Mandarin for about five years span? Whites journey all of. Ups and downs site as gone along of found new and more interesting reasons to continue studying to gets the fluency it's just been one of the most interesting kind of challenges that I've done in my life, so far it's just kind of like a endless well of information in new ideas and everything's very compelling. And I really really enjoy thoroughly. And you're based in the US right now Manila breath snack. Check a little bit. I'd like to get people's viewpoints. They're beginning languages before we dive into their current ones, which are currently working on. What was your first light, which mothering languages English fan highschool? I studied Spanish for four years or something. And then in college it's a couple of glasses for Spanish in really get anywhere with any of your teacher. But I just never found the academic system to be very good at each team languages or really just imparting the interests or passions to learn it while I did learn. A ton of vocabulary. It really go anywhere recently. I was a Spanish speaking country and some of it reactivated without setting thought now is really cool, but wasn't really able to use it. So there is that outside of that. That's that's about it of dabbled in other languages year in there. But it's mostly just you know, Spanish was before. And don't you worry? There is a certain way things are done in academia. And if you look that system, it doesn't go. Well, I agree. There's something in the language classroom. That is just not conducive to language learning. Unfortunately, I'd love to figure out how to change that or how to promote things outside love to stump studies up, but let's dig into that a little bit more. Specifically, let's talk about English. Do you have any memories about learning to read or write or speaker anything like super early on a couple of times where I remember not understanding what a word meant go. Look it up or not understanding what it was for years that only really became apparent while I was sending Mandarin doing are. What words some of them were from brought this up talking about something similar the brought up the example to the left while at concepts is totally abstract. You can't really point to something in like, you can point to something then point to the leftovers, but it's actually concept. It's not really something that you think. About in your native language, Michael thinking about learning a language or what kids have to go through. But it's something that you do come across when you're sitting at a new language something similar for Spanish. Now, you're learning the grammar and everything you you're starting to understand specifically what the past tense dozen how has created kind of forms of times. And then you realize, oh, wait, we have this English too. But it only became apparent once you started in all sitting another language to skirl just before they stopped explicitly teaching grammar on having dude like diagramming and stuff like in the seventies and whatnot. Apparently just after me as when that explicit instruction stopped. And I hear what you're saying from so many people with essentially the English teachers that go overseas in they're like, you know, what am I wish training program or my first classroom. They were like frantically looking up titles of verb tenses in things because they're like they knew how to use the language, but they didn't grow up in educational system labeling it and knowing how to categorize. Is it? Yeah. It's a good. I did learn a little bit about different things. I do remember not understanding what an adjective was the trial that I couldn't wrap my head around. There are a lot of things. I remember from that. I didn't like get at the time in like lately, I've been starting to understand. Yeah. I mean like stuff like that is demanding sensitive overtime. You improves definitely going up in running their first language or languages, some people tend to really gravitate towards reading some people really like speaking some people like writing where did you fall in that ethnic hitting it all very very introverted in everything that us, probably the easiest part for me was talking. I didn't really like reading. But that's mostly like academics. Lila gates to forceful. I think when really cater to my interest, which is not supposed to, but I never felt motivated, sell, you know, reading Hardie Boys or or Cam Johnson or something like that. I was like this is not really for me ordering. But yes. Speaking and then occasionally lights writing Gary kind of like expansive imagination. Yeah. Writing still was kind of boring Muslim physicist for school at any point in your life. Start to read a lot or start to ride a lot of search for enjoy those things. I don't think so I've been trying to read more. But that it says more to do with like trying to get away from you to try to get away from like. Yeah. Like. Many von blasphemy every once in a while a watch them YouTube. I don't like so much having to be part of like this one more quick one more scroll down just a little bit. More to see when comes next inside in China like Brive, my own entertainment and do something. That's more productive is kind of sparked by the idea that IQ is linked to reading on. Also, your -bility to use a language also wing to reading which I mean, they're all tied together. So you started with reading ender in my personal method of Saudi Mandarin is through just reading in. It's like on the very beginning. Yeah. It's it's like an incredibly how memorials I guess is the word by it gives you like a massive amount of Okabe, Larry and understanding their language very quickly. I'm trying to transition that over back to English us develop their to a notice that you can lose functionally in one language as fun another one at least temporarily I don't know how it is like way on yet like says informed with balance I getting. Two and in language teaching. We don't know if it's an official term, but we would just call it language erosion 'cause as teaching especially low level language learners, we weren't necessarily functioning in the local language. Also, we weren't really using our regular home language. What have you to any normal degree week? We were doing very simple sentences to help teach them the language and things. So we would end up not being able to form bull beautiful sentences by the end of the day. We'd be like the kind of thing while it's a real thing. I think that's when I started listening to a lot of podcasts and reading a lot online because they didn't have a lot of paper books where I was received. But I needed something to go in. So I could keep the language alive while I was teaching or they're interesting. That's gotta be like some frightening to be like X narrow with that word is what recently I did grow up as a reader. I think it was just instinct as soon as I started to notice it. I was just like, obviously, I just need more content. So I just started grabbing it whatever I could to read that the more. Tom is the better the the media the vocabulary the better and will be more like Libya recon novels or each technicals fun of stuff or dependent on what the internet would let me get a hold of. I read some new stuff there were some travel writers that had really beautiful dense media introspective sentences. So I read a lot of their stuff. I read some auto biographical stuff. I started to listen to podcast, and I tended to lean towards stuff that had presenters that had really colorful, very intense vocabulary. I felt like I was losing some of my it was the only stuff I was still watching ridiculous videos on YouTube and listening to songs. I mean, I don't wanna give the impression than I am like the super intelligent person. Only reads, really. I. It was face to watch cat videos, in whatever, you know. Those are some best videos on the other comes up almost every interview I do know matter what the topic is. I mean, they're popular cool beginning of YouTube videos, but no, no, I do watch videos on YouTube. But for some reason the animal wins are not where I gravitate. You have a channel you recommend Priscilla capi DEA there couple of videos recommend define them. But yeah, they're not I'm keeping open. I do cats. I don't know what the deal is. So did you skip over Pinon completely then and just go to the hunting urine Ono first of all found Chris from his last name. But I think it changed his name to learn Mandarin dot com. I'm like, this is YouTube channel but found he recommended a whole bunch of things. One of those software was dim sum with what used before plateau, but look at all these resources, and then I didn't really know where it's are. So I try to find somebody that could bridge me into it was Serge Melnyk he has like a whole set of not fogcast for audio lessons. With transplants thing that he had some vocabulary would say the word, and any have a native speaker said word from lesson to lesson you at light, it sounded like file knees. One mainland speakers that. And so he's not listen to him say it, then you listen to to her save. And then you would say so over time it built up that kind of responsiveness. And then I would look at the. Being from transfer ever. Really sure where I got that at first I did that for a few months, and I started to realize that there are a lot of phone soon names there a lot of times when you get tripped up linking what one word is another or characters reverse moves a different word and start realism. I'm not going off information from just reading the Romans ation not getting enough information from just listening Susu, muddy suit. So I started looking at the characters I simplified and then over time I of curious only wonder what the traditional ones. Yes. Like those and I try to like through reading traditional characters are Sollers more information there, and it was it was kind of helpful to be able to like understand the way that characters were simplified and everything, you know, is started feeding all these other connections Gibson's like online dictionary. Or after is a PC application. Okay. Yeah. I always using that furthest. Good. Bye. It's so cumbersome all idea for dictionaries and stuff get as fastened the look of as possibly the amount of time. I look up a word in a green session or something. Like crazy. I remember the first day. I started studying the first page, I read it's me three hours to re we have five cents up, and like my brain was on fire wronging eventually finding plug at like is way better. Well, so much faster than learning. How to to Henry implant go it's like, eat Basser. I love that too. So much. You use the photo do, but I actually find it faster. If I write it. Although I have a slight grade with them that they still consider the stroke order important because if it looks the same I'm still on the page of it should recognize. But I still think just it's so easy. Because if you don't know how it sounds. Where to start? So I just start drawing it in poof there it is. And I'm like it. That's crazy to wonder how do you will deaf people in China? Actually, learn language like there's so many characters and everything I can't imagine trying to understand Packers. Well, it sounds. That's a really good point. Okay. I'm gonna research that I've seen braille in China. Not sure if it's like, an international version or a different language version or do they have their own version, but I have seen it. I've probably taken pictures of it. And it doesn't look like the characters. It looks just like the dots of other vets that I've seen those definitely something to look go. 'cause it must have like very intimate with the Kirkdale really understand it. I've civil allies. And like, that's the only way that I can understand it like, I can I can see it and try to like split myself from it, but the comprehension doesn't work. So well is connected. I haven't new YouTube channel called tube to pod. And what I want to do in. This channel is have Mike. Crow videos of people answering three questions about podcasts. My goal for this channel is to bridge people from YouTube over to podcasts not to replace their YouTube Ewing, but to supplement it with podcast, a lot of people apparently still are not listening to podcast Diller unaware of what they are what they can do with them what they can learn from them that kind of thing. So the three questions are one. Where do you listen to podcasts to why do you? Listen to podcasts in three. What is your favorite podcast at the moment? Now, if you're interested in participating in this you can either post video under two minutes on Instagram with the hash tab to to pod to you B T O P O D or you can Email me your video and all posted on the YouTube channel if you put it on Instagram a record it copy it over onto the channel. If you send it to me E mail posted over onto the channel. And if you are more tech savvy than clearly, I am an, you know, a better way to get other people's videos onto YouTube, please let me know because right now. I'm doing a copy and paste kind of thing. So I really look forward to your participation in that again, it's under two minutes. Three questions at super easy. I want to expose people on YouTube to another audio experience that I think they would really really enjoy to spread the joy of podcasts. I think there's a lot of specific niche content out there that can teach us a lot about the world. And a lot about the things were already interested in in moments of the day when we're not doing anything else with our brain. So, yeah, it's a push to people to learn more about the things that they are really interested in or learn about things that they don't even know exist yet anyway to to pod I'll also put the link to the new channel in the show notes, you mentioned Taiwan and you've been studying Chinese for a while. Have you been to any place that uses at their main language allusion China into before the Olympics? And I knew some words, I grew up around the language. I never spoke any of it gains, like a passive understanding of few words, but I didn't really understand them, and I definitely can pronounce them. So I mean, I had some limited wars I could say when I was there. And of course, like yours up stuff me go in there in country. So just for a couple of weeks in two thousand eight and you were up in Beijing for the games. I was there before it just graduated high school. And I was there for is like something for people are interested in politics is kind of like attract to get them moving forwards politics on experiences. They had people from all the US in actually little all over the world in enjoying Soames school. Now, you mentioned you grew up with the language around. You put does that mean. So I practiced on martial-arts true. Yeah. And my coach was from ES. She would talk to other people, and I hear it alive. You know, having having characters on shirts and stuff like that. If you see it at your age. Supposed to. But I mean, it's complex language did help to kind of likes for interest in learning it security around in c- Yano or is then Sunday like it just dawned on me like, oh, yeah. I could just learn that if I wanted to eastern at thirty Mandarin Chinese after your schooling. Yeah. Yeah. Wet spark that interest. There used to seeing all the tricking and martial arts that got turned into acrobatic combined with gymnastics. Does you Napper while met with Paul people on to watch their videos and came across this guy? He's Danish witness news, Victor, but you would foes videos about triggering and then usually videos about Japanese, and he didn't like these these language lessons for Japanese in English. Oh, that's really cool. So unlike look those, you know from time to time if you are amounts usually will it's easy. It's kind of fun now ask them it's like, wait a second. So you're you're teaching Japanese in English and English is of your first. As you the it's my second, language Jefferson. Bruce, and I was like oh my God. Well, he was showing like how he was learning. Japanese showed that he went to Japan on yet works there for like one or two months as in grocery store, always communicating people on TV, you know, spoke it talking really well as spoke English, really all. Bass native by that it seems like he had learned Japanese the same way hit learn how to trick. Which was a lot of self study, and dedication, this is actually possible at somebody can actually do that is that that only I was about six years into my tricking career. So like I had gone phone so scratch to like headed built up a certain amount of skill in that I'd seen something that should have been impossible or people feel like is impossible be very possible for means. This can definitely happen for something else. So gave the try and you're still doing that. Now, do it off and on. I mean, kind of gotten my Phil from it. It's been about ten years of fun of Don everything I wanted to do in it further. I could go but muscle not as long as they're used to be. People. On. Yeah. Let's play with the comparison between learning Spanish and learning Chinese are there. Any comparisons on how you learn them or the languages themselves or the one always ring up to people that like don't study language is the amount of effort you have to put in for the first four years. I studied Mandarin. I'd never thought it was hard for me. Like in my opinion. It was like an exercise in diligence patients really challenging in that it. It's hard to understand. You just need to bigger time in learning every day. You know, study some by the the comparison, I give them is Spanish you can study for four months to year you've studying on oh somewhere between two hours. Eight hours day, you'll have attain some Billy to speak to people to write to read winglike, you'll be actually somewhat could at the language. You can use it Heizo. I studied. For at least six hours a day for a while out. Take breaks on say, do you like to tweets on, you know, I will get burned off won't do it. Again. I couldn't say anything against local really being a couldn't could barely listen to anything couldn't understand anything is ridiculous to me because you know, at that point still understand what a word was in Chinese Mendel stand that characters not worth didn't understand on the characters formed away. Or in a statement with different grammar parcels were with a did. I was still trying to grasp things like Jill or like other some other basic ones, boom or muff as to having trouble with those did you I'm so different meanings. That so many instances of of their uses is all of that combined. Just makes so much different from learning Spanish be like now that I'm five years in. I'm finally getting step point. Why was was Spanish is? I'm finally getting to the point where I can. Can look at a news article or look a book, and I can read it without dictionary. And get just of it as still need a dictionary stuff. Look up of words, all the time. Or hundreds of words in a serious session. But it's taken this much time in to get to that point where I can like just kind of like absorb it won't casual dime, actually, really relieved to hear you say all of this has there is a lot of people that do intensive classes and immerse themselves in the environment and claim that like six months to a year in their fluent. And I hear them talking. But I can't gauge if they are not or people just being kind and responding in some way to them. So I've heard a lot of people do that stuff. And so I'm like, I don't know year and a half in and I'm finally able to read very grated text. Like, we're talking you Kate three texts I can read mostly looking up some stuff, but I don't really understand a lot of. But I'm reading yet. But I can finally read without the pinion and light entire sentence or two entire six sentence conversation. And that's only happened in the past few weeks. And I'm like, okay, I'm excited that I can now sound like a bull. Foon when I reading out this thing that there, but I still don't understand what it means yet. So I guess that'll come at some point in the future. But this is a stepping stone. Like, I learned Spanish, I never got very high up with Spanish, but when I learned Spanish with the reading, and the comprehension seemed to come pretty hand in hand the script was very similar is a lot of the words Riveria similar the intonation in the sound seemed very similar so it didn't feel like a lot of meaning was lost in. That's not true for Mandarin for me. I had come on one of your videos recently. I it's like you made a lot of progress all of a sudden the broken through like that plateau, and all of a sudden got all these other things. I know how to do not like it stuff. Just awesome just fixing to make sense as as really happy to see that that I remember that. Achey so much time now because I I'm not doing six day. I'm doing like under two hours a day. But it's like you said five six days a week seven days a week sometimes like really pushing and making sure that you're doing all the time and not missing too many days in a row in. It's just a almost a challenge because it seems so unobtainable. It's like I'm feeling myself pushing more than any other language that I've tried to learn before, you know, about what is it's not. It's not a learning curve. But like it's supposed to be like the first one twenty hours of learning a skill Flynn, small months, and you get a large amount of from it. I feel like for learning Mandarin as an English speaker. It's like you'll be enough as one year. Yes. Like, it's not just twenty hours. It's not just a couple months. You'll be there for a long time man from the UK who has just read he's reading science fiction in Chinese within two years, which I think is just crazy. Hey, also spent a lot of time. And I think he was dating locally and things like that that he will give you more exposure, those kinds of things not to excuse. It seems very good at learning languages. He was saying that with some languages it's very easy at the beginning. And then it gets really hard when you get to the finer grammar points in he said that mandarins the opposite where it's really hard at the beginning. And then when you reach a certain point you start recognizing even if you don't know the word, you can probably read parts of it. They're like sound components and things that can help you and the grammar is still the same because that doesn't vary that much into the hardest part is the first few years, and then it gets a lot easier. But that was his theory was re was that with one exception. I think that it gets. Harder again towards the top levels. Yeah. That makes sense. I haven't gotten there yet. But like, I don't know if you try to watch a movie or something like that. And like look at all the subtitles in life, pause them. Sometimes the grammar do with this is not the same camera. I was just thanking the Bill like what happen. But it's it's because as far as I know like there, there's a literary language there's there other languages or from fort languages, but he just gets crazy like that. Or then if you go into classical, I just like totally it's funny because I was interviewing this gentleman from might be program. He grew up in China. And now he's in the US doing his, and he was saying in China, they start with those literary references person second grade reading like poems and literary pieces as they're getting those bits of language that are used later on in everything even in newspapers he filler saying, right? So that he's been they're getting them like in first and second grade and the hallway through but they're starting. That early while raid, and I've heard people complain about this like, oh, I thought I knew the language and then all of this happened. It's like we learn it backwards. Our way of studying language is c constructed and then like rationalize it, by the way that you learn it as a native is different than maybe we should be going about it the same. Maybe because then you wouldn't have to learn that step which is commonly used later on when you think that you've already learned so much. Yeah. Wall, maybe maybe problems with fluency or like decrypt weights phrase, something like phase wouldn't be so different. I asked him. I was like well, okay. You guys were in person second grade. Do you feel like you and your classmates? Understood what you were reading anything. Of course, we did. And I'm like, oh, okay. Never mind. I think he like eight year olds in the US. The intense stuff. We didn't read at that age. Will we did read the declaration of independence, or at least part of it? That was designed the comparison. Like now. I know reduced their classical Chinese death. He compared to like middle English or like old England eighty I had somebody else compared to Shakespeare, which does take some time to get used to like that's one author with that way of writing I suppose, I'll no I don't know enough Chinese to know this yet. I'm just kind of getting it. In English injured. I'm collecting information. But I was Lord by how early they started that. And they had to memorize it in recited. They had to write it to do the writing practice in just like, whoa. It's amazing. I can't imagine. It's just like it's totally different from from. What you hear on treat, you know, or or anywhere? But wait we quote Shakespeare every now and then sometimes jokingly sometimes not. Yeah. I mean, we have literary references throughout English too. Because we grew up with it. We don't think about it until somebody says, hey, what does that mean taught in English language textbooks? Either language teaching in general, ignores reality for very long time crazy decade, great until what was the hardest thing you read in second grade or vice versa. Urine. Blocked down most of my schoolings. The declaration of independence because it's just when we moved from New York to Pennsylvania, and so I was like super conscious about standing in front of my new classmate on citing it. But if it wasn't for that. I don't think I would have even remembered that. Learning American cut things. I do. Remember, I missed the day that we learned the star spangled banner. I came back the next day. Everybody was saying it as void the words of this. Any years? He's said only one day on the national anthem. I don't know why. I don't know. I don't ask questions about that kind of stat was awful. He's not an active participant in most of my schooling. Until I got to the last part of my bachelor's. 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You've started in stopped calling character words mortgage characters, and I find that this happens so often when I talk about Mandarin Chinese when you're talking about learning this to anybody that isn't learning it, how do you describe to them how confusing characters in words are all high. I say terms using words terms o- instead of either one of them. Yeah. Because I mean, even technically in English one really is a word mainly we separate things out was faces. So that's when we call them word. But you know, it gets confused implied. Like, you don't notice. But like each other like, that's that's one word or two two ways. I thought it was too. I've been getting to Christian it now or ordinal myself. You know is one wearing those two words. Well, yeah. Going by spaces, it's one. Yeah. You know? And if you think about like German or something like that, you know, how they could as like words together. So would you come more longer word? You really want is a word, and my opinion word is might yet like expresses one basic idea. Silly collocation like Genna go to sleep those kinds of things would you call it like each one of those a term. So those those move on into phrases. I would say, but just slightly smaller than that is is early worry in that think that's that's what's more important. So when I when I described split Mandarin is like two Hewlett don't study languages or city mentoring and say like, oh, well, you know, imagine imagine you learning English FIS syllables like what would that be like? Now. All man, I learned today learns like thirty new syllables like, okay. That's great. But like what does that actually mean? What did you? You haven't really done anything like. Yeah. Onto syllable is one word. You know? Subtly by like, but yeah. Like again, you say like yourself. Like. You got to Sobel's there. But it's like that's not too different is not really not to damore is like that's like the wine idea right there. Takes time. They like those gather and Mandarin. I I'll express it as the which is like word, which like term means term. You know? I gotcha. Now that makes a lot of San we have syllables in English. We sometimes teach syllables we understand what syllables are two of coined. But Chinese is much more Celebic than English is we have a lot of loan words and things like that. Don't like we don't have the specific pattern to English like Mandarin does end yet facing and words and the sentences with only punctuation generally at the end is very confusing at the beginning. I think what was the biggest thing that was hard for you. When you first started Zeman of you come in those Richard looking for, but it's like getting into the habit Sunday. The the way that I you like new skills or information is like I won't tell anybody about it. So I can promise myself that I can do with for a month. Some months. Great sudden. So it just really hard because of that brain burn or whatever it is like I've never experienced that before like ever, this is the I think there's only been one other thing. Now that I've I've got my this by this is recently as after seven minor. But like that that's a serious like headache. You get after like trying to decipher what things move result. And so like because of that it was just really hard to commit like, it becomes like nets. That's why have to take those like those breaks feel like to two ish. This man is like I can't even force myself. Can't in like think about I can't manage the think about studying like is almost physically painful gotta do this again. It's like, oh my God. So solid. I hate doing that. But like forced myself for a month. And then after that easy that sounds like a natural rhythm. But you keep coming back to it. And that's the important part. Yeah. What do you do to make sure you keep coming back to it? Do you have any sort of like timeframe where you say I'm gonna take this much time off? And then I'll come back I've gotten clever a my one way setting so couple months in say six to eight months in a switch my phone Chinese. And then shortly after switch my browsers on my PC su- Chinese started subscribing to its Chinese channels everything I didn't want to look at it. Like, I will always be forced to look at it. And it's actually get burned out. But what ends up happening is at the end of the out period. Basically with that when I've decided that means that process the information in now, I'm like open to receiving more information. So I'll become curious again. And now see the words a know means. And I'll be like curious looking at it happens. That's what I know. I can go back in organically. How long have they usually when that happens like a few weeks of your is usually a couple of weeks about it can be longer was work. I like to learn a lot of different things at once. I can only balance like certain kinds of things like kind of academic thing. One like kind of physical thing was basically that. That's that's all I can do is a have one of those use of those slots filled up and then like overtime like I can just reach firms with felt that the burn yet. Like this. From the beginning. Well, I did do a lot more games than apps and learning about the language the first few months but ever since I switched over to words, and especially when I started to read with the characters without the pinion of the birds Monreale the Brinson real and I do physical flash birds because I didn't find that the the digital wins didn't quite stick. I don't know if it was the process of writing or what have you, but I will literally just stare at the black skirt and wait for it to hit me. And the burn happens. A lotta times then when I get to the point where I start to recognize it. But I can't remember it it it's a little painful and by the time I get to the fourth deck that I'm reviewing that day on my but there's only nine in a deck. So I mean, it's not that impressive. Why was it is what it, but it no at the burn the burn is there. But I feel like the burns what happens just before it hits or it sticks. To know what I mean, look at the burn is the precursor to the muscle changing for good in at least. That's what I want to believe. 'cause it's often. That's that's really cool. Like, I as one of the things I've been most interested about your processes is that you decided to stick with the liner blocks. And I I really just wanna see how this progresses that. Like, I said, there's nothing you're not many other people that I've found that language either. They're like the pros like me lots of stuff like that. Or like if people are just now beginning some like that. So like song you posting videos like Kraft gets it like. Thank you actually developing in doing this this passionate about it. So like every time you post video about like a new like plateau where progress like of south is it's it's that so Google is funny because I was looking for five minute language videos, when I first started, that's what got me on YouTube looking for that. I usually just use YouTube videos. Maybe interviews, I don't know. I didn't use it for a lot of things. And so I was looking for the grammar videos, and I stumbled across my first YouTube language blogger and then one led to another led to another in the al-gharib got me such thing. The in pulled me at a nicer to watching a bunch of different people doing this. And I was like, oh, wait a minute. Check my progress 'cause I've happened to or had a habit of starting languages and just kind of petering out. And I was like if I'm visited visibly accountable than maybe that'll be part of, you know, the process to pressure me to keep going y'all though it was a bunch of different folks talking about link languages they were learning and showing their methods. Oh my God. It was so cool to watch other people study languages because I've only seen my students do that in the classroom. I'd like I've never actually hung out with like in a study group watching other people studying languages, and I was like, oh, how was this done? How are you doing this? Oh, crazy. So crazy you in Instagram person? There's a hashtag held steady Graham, and literally is pictures of what people are studying they'll take pictures of their highlighter, they're steady material their textbook like all these different things. I I I thought like somebody recommended it to me, and I'm like, I don't know check it out. And like after the first day, I'm like these much. I. Five. You sound like a lifelong learner you'd like to learn new things right now. And that's what these guys are doing a lay there showing you what they're working on. It's like. That's cool. So nerdy. So awesome. Yes. I'm sure you've met a number of people outside of an academic setting. And even who don't really aren't really curious about a lot of stuff than just wanna make some money or just have a happy life and all that kind of stuff, and that's not how my brain functions. I need new I need to be challenged. And. Yeah. And know that hashtag steady Graham there those those. All right. I'll check it out. That sounds awesome. There's a little a little too much later, but get past in fantasy stuff is very cool from one of the local women in Shanghai that I interviewed about her learning languages outside of Mandarin. She wanted to know what language people dreamt in. Normally. I don't really think about that. I guess I would say I dream in English. There've been some times where I think I'm dreaming amendment. Maybe two or three times as happened. But on I would relate to what happens when you re a novel. You don't really read the words. You you experience the story stay you're not thinking about what language thinks her happening, and you're just experiencing things on working on output. Now, I've totally neglected out output the entire time of just all starting at when I'm listening to people or when I start feeling like I'm unable to communicate in the language like he's small sections on that speaking the language. I'm speaking the story of what I want to say in just happens to be coming through that Phil. The only other question it. What should I ask other people that I interview in the future because I am entering to two sets of books folks learning end on using language like you, and I are learning using and then I'm also interviewing Chinese folks who learn other languages, and so for either set of folks, what should I ask them doing from a IT backgrounds? I've seen a lot of belt minutes in the past couple of years, mostly retains to a artificial intelligence, one of the things that's coming up is natural language processing wells that we product which forgetting the name of that article just showcase at is. In its beta form is one that that allows an AI to talk to restaurants or something the call restaurants in have a conversation. That sounds like a human. Okay, things like that coming out and going to be happening. Very soon. You still find appointing in learning a language? That's a good one. Thank you. Well, okay. Do you want to answer your question? I will answer from from my perspective. Yes. I was still in it. So just because of the challenge it may not be the most efficient way to communicate Gators might look better Wayne still off to always communicate with their own voices of sleep. But despite the fact that the language learning process could be totally abandoned and replaced by robots. I still find. It was loving. Any other skill swim a mile Richmond? What about you? When with this is not come easily at all. There are skills that I find writing is super easy for me. I'm not saying right writing eloquently or amazingly or whatever, but writing the process of writing what to write how to write editing. I find that entire process super, easy, if anything I okay, right? So, and I know that a lot of people struggle with that on the opposite side learning languages is one of the hardest things my brain tries to do if there was a chip that I put into my brain to learn a language I wouldn't want. Just the words if I can put the chip in my brain and see that point of view from the languages that use that language, then I would want the chip if the chip was only the language without the point of view without the cultural stuff that goes with it. Then I think I'd still wanna learn the language. I get the most interesting part for me. In addition to the script of mandatory knees is the viewpoint that goes. With it that I hope I can understand at some point in the next twelve years is the different ways to view things in the world that throughly what I want. What do you what do you think causes that you point gives that to you with different cultures? You mean with learning align with Gary new perspective on the world. What you think it is that actually the focus? Oh, I I mean, the viewpoint of the the people that use the language I'm trying to learn heart is the appeal with Chinese is that there's a lot of things that seriously confuse me with Chinese culture. And as I learned the language are those going to start making sense, always see insertive, like cultural puzzle in addition to puzzle, and they may or may not but that is to be seen. It's interesting. Yeah. So I think if that were taken away from the experience, and it was just just communication with just words that meant a word was a. Intention in something happened in that was it. Then I'd say forget, it technology can do everything I'll go do something else. Interesting. I think that's pretty practical and reasonable answer. Although I don't think any of this going to happen in my lifetime Gill will they so there's there's so much behind a machine learning. That's really clunky right now. And they're they're testing out stuff without really know. What's happening and was natural language processing mega that's a whole other conversation. 'cause I learnt to use python in order to do natural language processing, and it was not the beautiful creature that I wanted it to be all. Yeah. I had high hopes it could still turn into something. Really amazing. It's just not there yet. And I'm an impatient person. Is this is this the up that you were talking about? Now. This is the program we were in we had to learn by onto us, not remembering the natural, language processing stuff. But there is there's all this all these packages and all these things we needed to do until the first class was python. Second class was just natural language processing, we had a variety of different projects to work on in that. And I've actually wanted to be that into helping folks with writing fluency, but it's just so frigging clunky. A lot of the language apps. Right now seem to be made from people in tech that don't know or don't want to know about the language learning side. And then you have the language learning teachers or creators of paper content who seem to be allergic to technology and the two folks are not really getting together. Very well. Intention meal. She program was it was like applied linguistics and technology. It was supposed to combine the two, but the technology is focused on working on accuracy, basically, read, pending everything. And that's not really where wanted to pitch. My tent. Yeah, you're doing. I'm I think I've moved over to the motivational side to be honest with you. Was a play the clip from from Star Wars. Now, you were the chosen Joaqin. I would not run from a situation where I could use my language learning teaching expertise with this much technology stuff that I know I wouldn't run from the situation. But I think there's a space for motivation in language learning as well, which could still be app driven. It would need to connect people to people not just the automated. But I've got some great ideas. I just have very little patience to sit down and code the damn things into existence off at some point. I need to find somebody who has a technical expertise and not the idea. So I can put the ideas with their technical expertise and booth. Thing. In my late forties. Is I've got like fifty hundred years left in my life. Right. Won't you? That's that's the great thing about ideas in and everything is all while my feel like it will take forever like doesn't just takes the right stuff at the right time. And then it can just like that. And you'll be like or there. For sure for sure end like that. I'm not closed off to any opportunities. If anything I'm putting myself all over the internet. I'm much more comfortable with the audio version like this is going to turn into the characters were the thing that drew me in this time, and I had to give them a life individual sense. Which is why ended up going with the YouTube channel for that? It will it wasn't for that. That would have been a non visual thing. But they're so cool it an inherent Shanghai. There's just tons of characters everywhere. Just giant sized and small size stylistics is just they're just so cool. No. Sure. So thank you so much for joining us today on changing scripts podcast as you're having me. It's been bless. Thank you so much for listening to this episode of the changing scripts podcast, again, if you are learning the Chinese language, or if you're coming from the Chinese language learning another language, I'd love to interview for this podcast. Go ahead and contact me. And we will hash out how to get you on the sound creation knows the changing scripts podcast. A lot more is coming your way soon.

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Ep 20: Connections: Post HSK 3 feedback & What Matthew said about Community

Changing Scripts: Conversations about Mandarin Chinese with native speakers and learners

21:38 min | 2 years ago

Ep 20: Connections: Post HSK 3 feedback & What Matthew said about Community

"Welcome to the changing scripts podcast every Sunday. We'll have one of two types of episodes all of them were robbing around learning and using Mandarin. Chinese one type of episode will be my updates on. What I'm learning? How I'm learning it different quirks within language and sometimes information about China itself since I am living in trying high China right now the second type of that zone where I'm interviewing people as it or either learning the language like I am or people who grew up with Mandarin Chinese and the learned other languages the updates used to be on a YouTube channel. But have now migrated over into the podcast. The interviews started on the YouTube channel as well. And they very quickly ended up on the podcast. So everything's been kind of going back and forth. Now, having said that the podcast is also available to listen on its own YouTube channel check the show notes, and you can find the link to the YouTube channel dare it's just an audio form if you are studying Mandarin Chinese have steady Mandarin Chinese I'll whether it be a child doesn't it don't you're currently studying you're currently used. The language. I would love to interview you. So please contact me. These kinds of podcasts are passion projects created from a place of deep interest, and they need to find other people that have those interests in the best way to do that is word of mouth. So you can go fill out an apple podcast review. If you really want to. But honestly, I'd much rather you tell a few of your friends about this podcast. Thank you so much, and let's dive into the episode. All right. Here's my posts. H is case three. Information are I just took the test. I just finished about half an hour ago. I live in Shanghai China. And so my test center in profusion who probably be different if you're not taking at exact center that I took it out. So keep that in mind, they'll be things that'll be the same in they'll things that will be different. So the might third test. It's the third I took ages K one at nature's Ketu in paper form earlier this year and ages K three I actually chose to take in computer for him because the writing when I write in Chinese I'm going to type in whether it be on my computer or on my phone. So I really wanted to have that practice with protests to make his realistic as possible. So I chose. I wasn't fully ready for all that was going to happen. So I'll tell you the good and the bad parts. Order should I tell you a minimal next to test center because it's raining like crazy outside and I wanted coffee. To celebrate it being over. Okay. So the good stuff the test center. I was on. It was very clear would you in? And where the test won. They started the on time. They finished the test. One time equipment worked those kinds of things. So all of those details were fairly, well, the bad thing term, mostly technical in nature and keep in mind that I do like which testing reliving. And so I'm hyper critical things that get in the way of the tense to happening. So not this just I don't work on the age gate. Okay. So the first thing that I noticed is thoughts. We're very different the fonts are very different from the questions or the sentences at the top two things that you needed to match with them. There were different fonts different sizes. And there was a lot of pixelated with the thoughts with the Honda characters. Now, I've already struggled to learn like typed, very clear type tons of characters. I've learned to read my messy handwriting and the third one is in. The course book, the standard course book. That I've been using for all of the ages K three levels all came up to three and they're really good series. I've talked about them and other videos. They also use a kind of calligraphy script. And so I've gotten used to that one over the past few weeks this. That were used in the test weren't really like any of those. It was really difficult because during the test when I'm ready very very stressed out. I had to get used to another. Okay, fine. Look everybody rates to me different. People might use different fonts when I'm reading their emails later on in the future, you whatever. Okay, fine. Just tweeted refund. But the spacing between the words. Don't the space in between the reserves nuts trains spacing between the letters. Now. What am I saying the spacing between the lines varied? Sometimes it was enough where the characters for the words didn't touch each other from line to line. And sometimes they kind of overlapped and made the words a little blurry. And that made it hard to read. There was no way zoom in on the screen, and I did already have reading classes on. So I just kept doing manual soon to get closer to the screen. But because it was physically slurred like the phones were slurring together. Not the words for certain together. It was hard who is hard to understand what some of the words were. So I did what I could. And it was a very time tests. I could spend a lot of time going back and forth on another thing is that when they have like four options at the top. But all the things that you're matching it to go down. You have to scroll up down when you scroll the options of the top went away. When you got to the bottom stuff. I know it seems minor. But when you're going back and forth between a list and not it really don't make a difference that you can actually see the list the whole time. Now, if you know expel very well, Microsoft excel, you know, that you can freeze frame at the top. And and then you can scroll down at the bottom. You can do that with coats. Well, I've done that while making stuffed her website. So that is something that does exist. It's not like, it's big. You can't do it kick just isn't done in this case. So that made it a little bit more challenging the example, one was in there just like it is the fractious materials, but they actually made it available. So that you could accidentally choose the example answer as part of your answers thought such you just blocked out. And I thought that was kind of weird my boss do think my left negative thing is during listening. You can't jot down notes on anything I tend to look at the transcript, which of course, you can't do during the test. But when I practice. As I look at the transcript, I break down key words, I tend to do them in Pinon L because I'm not very good at writing the characters themselves yet if I ever get that way. So you can't you can't make any notes. So you just have to listen and decide listen and decide between what's on the screen is really hard to do. And I definitely didn't practice that way. So if there's anybody taking the computer test, and you haven't practiced that way, I would get used to not taking those because it was really disconcerting to switch. My nothing. Well, I was doing. So that something I would definitely practice and not do like I did and be shocked by there are a lot of shocking things. I'm issue that was my last negative thing. But I do have to mention it's been a high tension week this week, and although it went from like two hundred QA to one hundred it was hovering around one hundred day, and they had the windows open, and I tend to get pollution headaches pretty quick, and I couldn't move for the twenty minutes before the test where we just there waiting for the test to start as well as an hour and a half. Of the cell. I had to sit there and breathe it in. I didn't even bring them my mass because it didn't even dawn on me that it wouldn't be a safe clean environment. I don't know why thought they would have tons of European affairs and things in the room. Why would they do that? I don't know. It's just a test slump subsidaries just to language school. Why would they have? So anyway, if you're taking you to keep testing winter in China you, and you are sensitive to these kinds of things like I am then you probably want to make sure you probably want to check out your test center head of time or you might very well want to wait until spring about half the years. Good, very, low collusion, relatively low pollution and the other half is just absolutely shed. So that may be maybe a factor something to know. Oh, okay. I did say that was the last negative thing. But just when I don't know if this is standard. We're this is the term went to you. But we supposed to show up a half hour beforehand and check in and then they let us to our computers. And that's where we sat for after all of the checking in was done to putting our backs away that kind of thing because you can't have your anything, except you and like classes or seemed to be the only things related to have on. You even coasts, even though they kept reduce open seem to be something that they did not allow so we sat there on quickly all of us in room. There may be I think maybe twenty of us sat there staring at the computer screens waiting for the test to start it doesn't count down on the screen. But you're just sitting there in these super hard chairs with all of this pollution air coming in. We will be waiting for the test start, and we're not talking because technically attested tuition so can't really have conversations with the people are asking is very very strange, really strange. If I were them. I would just say once you check didn't start the contest, but I on some level. I understand everybody has to start on time. And on the other hand. I don't think we should be there a half hour ahead of time. Anyway, that's picky. But generally girl, I feel like the test was pretty on par with the test materials. I feel like the course books yet. Again, did prepare me for it. I did feel the things that I was if EON I'm still feeling of things I felt like I hadn't spent enough time on I still felt like I could spend more time on it. They're things that I knew that showed up and I felt like I really really well. So I feel like it was a good gauge of where I am the level. And I do feel like I need to. Spend a lot of time going back because there's a lot of really important meaningful stuff in this level. And and I don't want to just push on through Asia's k four or to any other content getting it because I really the more use the standard Chris books to study the more. I realize that they actually are really good way. To learn this language, and I don't think I've ever really set of language before given the flaws of some funky conversations that are just like, okay. That's that's there to just about Chinese culture. And that one's just kind of weird in that wins, an overlap of Chinese culture, but not really explained doesn't really make sense in the translation. The translation, but just issues. Bizarre. Ignoring all of that. I think it was pretty inaccurate test of the level. The last thing I'll say is the accent. They had the same put this. They had the same man and the same woman throughout the entire forty questions of listening, and the accident is the man I feel like I can almost pinpoint on a map of China. And it wasn't any of the the accents that that were in. The course books that I was studying, and this is really a flawed the test. This seems to be a flaw of my studying the people that make the test aren't the ones that put out. The course books that I I don't think they do. I don't think they're the ones who make. The course books that I'm studying. But it only makes sense that you have different accents. Now personally for the test. I would have had difference different voices for the different parts of the test. They're like in groups of five since I five and so they're in groups of fives. And so I think I think it may have been a bitter gauge of your flexibility the language if they had different voices from different people with different accents in each part. But that's just a really nit picky thing. Again. I'm in language testing. I used to language teach allot. So these are very very quickly things. I'm glad they did they did a different accent than what I've been hearing. What I studied. Because it it really kicked by ask into what I've been doing wrong with my study. I really liked the first folks, I'm using. But I really really think that they need to expand out what I'm listening to. So I can get used to different accents. Because there are many. And I feel like I've been a little bit lazy on that French. So I feel like that was actually a really good thing. That they did. Although I think they could've needed even better overall. I'm glad I be a just came into three this year. However, I would never push the rich as free in six months unless you were doing intensive and or you like. We're using the language daily basis and just had that kind of feedback coming actor. I just if you're self studying only two hours a day. I would never do this six months, and if anybody's into doing that than I say, no don't do it because I have to go back and spend another three months or longer trying to fix what I just did which is fine because learning comes in layers anyway, anyway, so this is my overview of may just three test. I'm Charlotte think of something else. But I wanted to give you an impression immediately after the test. Really glad I didn't. But. I think it's time slowdown the little bit and and breathe fear. Enjoying this conversation about the Chinese language and would like to participate if you're studying the Chinese language, or if you come from the Chinese language of Lord languages, either perspective is greatly. Actually, both perspectives are greatly appreciated on this channel. Let's have a conversation. Let's take that sucker. And let's get it into this podcast contacts me and lets out the details on how to get you. And your valuable language learning. Experience onto this podcast. All of my information is in the show. Also, all over social media except Facebook by Steph Puccio, S T H F U C C, I o that includes g mail for my Email, Twitter, Instagram, tumbler, and Lincoln. So I look forward to hearing from you. But anyway, I wanted to do a quick update. Connecting to some things that Matt said in the recent interview that was posted with Matt Boyle as well as my own update and skin the kind of slurred them together. His it spin quite a challenge getting back on track with everything else in life post ages K test put a lot of stuff off in order to study for the last month to really cut a solidify as much as I could try to catch up with life right now. So this is going to be a very quick video. But I do want to give tangible things that can help you with your own Mandarin Chinese language learning. Because if nothing else I would like to provide something useful for you guys. That are learning the language along with me because I'm still in the learning. I don't know if I'll ever be in the using phase. We'll see what happens that community. Matt mentioned a few times how he likes to go to the same teashops and talk to the same people and get deeper and deeper into the conversation. You mentioned talking to the same people over and over and deepening the conversation each time, you talk to them, and I do well with that kind of a community again mentioned in the interview with Matt a lot of the places I go to they turn over so quickly that I can't even have this conversations when I do feel like a connector wanna get to know, somebody more, and there's some other factors. I'm just not. I don't know. I'm just not very good at small talk is any language. So I feel like that's not the way that could work for me. However, I wanted to share with you these two ways of doing it Matt's way as going to the same place talking to the same people for put changing the compensation questions learning more from each other you go on both connection wise, and for you, the language learner, language wise. And then another way you can do it the way that I've done it and not that you have to choose between these two, but I think these are two different ways that you can certainty do votes could certainly do belts. So the other way is online you don't necessarily have to be in front. The German producer on podcast, but you can connect with people online, and I want to share with you what I've learned over the past couple of years. Being language learner online. It's pretty active communities. I would say by far the most active language learning community is on here on YouTube by far, and how do I knew that? Because police cap I stopped doing the videos for few weeks and the engagement that I had with the savings that content justness Petur way down, and I missed it. I thought maybe I was just doing it for the numbers though. I didn't think but I just I wasn't sure that my motivations were. Language-learning oriented more started to question. Why was making videos was I just hamming it up and having fun there were they actually learning, and I did feel like I missed you guys comments. And so I put a couple more videos on this channel. And then repurpose them for the cast the comments that you guys gave me for the videos. You came back you came back, and you come into MU said, some really useful very nice thing. And I missed talking to you guys. And I think YouTube because we're their comments are is so much easier to have that kind of engagement than anywhere else at this point in time, and that could probably change in the future. But for now, that's where it is. The other place is Instagram study Graham is a good place to share setting in general, so Instagram study grants a good place. I've talked to thought somebody recently who has Chinese study grandma's that one of the hash tags are using. And I was like, hey, I'm gonna follow that one now too. So I'm following. Chinese study Graham, which is where people just post things that they're working on with obviously clinic vendor Chinese so that's a really useful place to connect with. And so these are the two main areas that I found others one Twitter to at the beginning of specially I was on Twitter a lot, but for technical reasons being in China Twitter, even look to be peon have been really really hard to stay on. But I did find a language learning community on Twitter early on. And then I got kicked off so many times. So I kinda fell off Twitter, but Twitter is a nice place to connect with folks who are also learning languages personally. Now that I've been on Instagram for a little while I like the visual of it with the Chinese with Mandarin Chinese because the hunter characters as you know, are one of the reasons why I like to learn this language and visual nece comes through a lot better in Instagram than it does on Twitter, I know Twitter pictures, but it's not it didn't start out as a visual social media outlets. It just it. Has a very different audience. So in order of engagement, I would say YouTube even just as a watcher. You don't have to create a channel. Like, I did like a lot of folks, did you can be an active an active viewer on YouTube, and then after YouTube, I would say Instagram, and then I would say Twitter I have heard that medium like people post a lot of of articles on medium. I have heard that. That's very popular. I heard that the Chinese Reddit feet is very popular. I haven't dug into these. I have some physical issues with my. Wrists and shoulders. So I have to kind of limit how much time I spend on nine and how much time I spent on a computer and how much time I spend sitting down. So I haven't in all fairness check those out. But I have had people send me different groups in different links all over I think the most important part is to pick a spot where you already are talking to people and then go over into the Mandarin Chinese learning section of that area. Because then you're ready familiar with how the platform works on. So you don't have to relearn all of that you just relearn people or meet new people. So there's that. So I think community is by far the biggest aspect, and it doesn't have to be that. You don't have to immerse yourself in the new society and only speak the language around. You only Mercer's like talk to an only talk to the locals. I think that way can be very isolating and that might work for some people in a big does stick with that. If you're not that person. Like, I'm not do anything else that work. The important thing that I want to stress at the interview with Matt is one community to it doesn't have to be the same way that other people use community and three. You don't have to just talk to the people who speak that language. You can use the language you're trying to learn with anybody who's using it or learning at sea really really don't have to be an in the box kind of language learner unless that works for you. Again, it's all about works for you. I can't stress that enough. And there's another interview coming next week says, stay tuned chain Knicks continues on thank you so much for listening to this episode of the changing scripts podcast, again, if you are learning the Chinese language, or if you're coming from the Chinese language learning another language, I'd love to interview for this podcast. Please feel free to contact me in any social media ways that you see fit God and contact me, and we will hash out how to get you on the sound creation knows the changing scripts podcasts. A lot more is coming your way soon.

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AP Headline News Nov 13 2018 06:00 (EST)

AP Radio News

04:00 min | 2 years ago

AP Headline News Nov 13 2018 06:00 (EST)

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What NOT to do While Learning English and How to Take the Next Step (With Yulia from En-Garage)

The English Journey Podcast

32:08 min | 6 months ago

What NOT to do While Learning English and How to Take the Next Step (With Yulia from En-Garage)

"Hey, everyone! This is Jasmine Canadian teacher and your host on the English Journey podcast this week. We've got a guest who has a story to share. There's lots of advice out there for beginners who are just beginning to learn the English language, but what about those who have been studying the language for years, and they can't speak quite well, but they don't really know what to do next. How? How can we make the most of knowing and learning the English language while this episode is for you? Yulia is the CO founder of in garage. A community that helps build soft skills through English she helps her clients become more comfortable and confident english-speakers and communicators Yulia understands how English is a tool that can actually allow us to explore the world and be more effective in our work. Yulia will discuss these topics as she shares her own journey, her advice and tips to thrive with English. Let's get into this episode. He Julia. Thank you so much for coming on the this week. How are you doing? Thank you mean, thank you, everyone who is listening. I Know Humboldt and I feel excited about what's Commie so I'm really happy to sharing some the vice and do really my personal story. This is something you highlighted in your intro. I believe with most valuable thing we can sharing together Yay. I'm excited. Okay. I already did give a mini intro, but maybe could you tell our listeners a little bit more about yourself? You know irritation people. Ask Me this question. I think one worried. I would like stake in the memory airy, one whom I need because freely. You may easily associate me ways, lenny because it is happened so that around s ago I made. Made these last minute decision to into university away I majored in English. And then you know as anyone leading the language, one of the most old various ideas what to do next in life is teaching the language and I hope you will have a chance to tell worry about that. So this is how I started I started my career as an English teacher, and then I discovered so many wolf, but unity's that come along with that and I ended up working in global equity. Company is a very big Ellen de department, which stands for learning and development, helping my team develop competences that go beyond just teaching and so my job title sounds Finey. Khameini Because, the. Competence Manager! So, it's not a thing you imagine when you think of your future career goals. I could never imagine this job title in so Amazon. Nelson you brought. In garage that you've already mentioned it dissolves about learning. My whole base owl said both Lenny recently discovered Jogi Nice race, riding landing French, so you know it's my passion in every field that I can think of that. A lifelong learner looks like that Yeah Yup. Alright so you've learned the English language, and now you're teaching, which is amazing, so what about the students and learners who are really struggling right now as I'm sure you had a phase in your life where you have to move forward and progress with your English fluency one. Can we really do for those who are really feeling stock right now with English? What to do next. First of all I discovered is that the narrative of that is running in a head really matters so you've stayed it as a kind of a problem. I feel stock I do not know what to do next. It becomes a truce. It becomes a reality, so the I think we need to do is ask a different question. What can I do to get unstuck? And this is what you are not helping. People do asking themselves to different question and so really. This is what helps I guarantee many people when they tell you. I've tried everything and you them. But what actually have you done? They would tell you maybe WanNa. Do things not bad successful experience they've had. If you. Continue this conversation. They themselves will give you lots of answers because willing BC no open culture. When everyone is sharing experiences, so guys really sometimes a solution to your problem lies in places. You couldn't even imagine just for example. Recently discovered an only inquiries provided by Havana. It's where they ask need to feel the savvy before the course and it was one question. Why are you taking this course? In obvious, one and one of the options was to improve my English language and I thought it's not the most obvious reason to take a course from. From hub at which has to do with Jane and leading, and then I realized that it is really a cool chance to kill two birds with one stone, because you find yourself in an environment of Venice who have the same passion is you do who may also come from different backgrounds and not necessarily be English need disfiguring, so and so you feel safe for you know you're not afraid to be making mistakes as your learning You do not consider it to be. This must do thing because you're a lighting something that you'll lie definitely sometimes. Really does not let us move. Forward is only meeting environment where so shades language-learning learning ways. They must be grouped a teacher. We do some exercise. And we normally do not get as much time for speaking during the class. If it could be be experience menu is share, and then they sink I know grandma in a pickup so many nice words listening to Jasmine podcasts like how can use it and then really. Of on bless if you start looking beyond this classroom, yes, it's not just black and white. Absolutely, so until what am discovery now if I were to communities is that we often underrated the father of it because you may even organize your own community of people who struggle with zip fluency distressingly Nazar example. I've started a new adventure twilight. I joined the five am. Club Oh my gosh. To wake up five am every morning and do my. Word helps because there are people who do the same thing. We have Siri. Fourteen. Chazan by what I'm driving at is that there was one gal who so my story on Instagram? She contacted me asking to join this community in. I told her that. This is a local community. We have a huge time. Difference and our five am is not the same as heard. And so she was desperate. She told me you know. I tried to find this community on telegram, or what's up or instead worries announcing legs, Ed, hearing my region, and then he told here. But why don't you start your own five am movement? Why don't you become this first person buying year? Now leader! Yeah, too loosely, because sometimes people say you know I cannot find the space for I can practise speaking. English, I cannot find. You shouldn't find it. You should read sometimes. It's okay to take the next step in just kind of step out of your comfort zone. Sometimes you need to be the leader and set by example, so that's a really great piece of advice really and because we feel sometimes so lonely. I undertaking hang. Leave did not see on the people joining our community. When you dismiss this I stamp on your distorting. You will see how. How you know, they say if you have a strong desire, the whole universe conspires to you all my gosh. Yes, I was Gonna say that you know like sometimes honestly you think something is not gonNa work out, but if people can see the passion and the dedication, and just you know the overall positive attitude that goes into your project or community, or whatever you're doing I, really think that alone goes a long way some. And so, what about like in terms of advice? What would we say for an English Learner? Who may be because we know to move forward? They do have to step outside of their comfort zone like you mentioned they have to. You know they can't think that learning is black and white. You need to go to a classroom. You need to sit with a teacher. It's not like you can learn in so many different ways. You can learn from friends you can learn from. From media, it's it's all over the place. So what advice for English learners who now they know English, but now they're not sure what the next step is. What can they do with English this very considerable approach blue when you start thinking of implementing your knowledge, and it is definitely been next level, and I must've mean that it has to do with anything dealer in just language in order to get this knowledge to stake, not to let it fade away because this. This is what happens of your university experience any experience of learning something, and then not implementing it. That's true. We'll lose the skill and we feel so frustrated with spending sometime. Bill donate, and then you know does not putting enough effort into getting it to become a part of your life, and so what I see is growing trend in wearing is such is first of all this new culture that people are developing. They start appreciating the knowledge. They get in completely new way. Way because now, nobody forces us to learn something. It was odd choice to learn the language At least now we're all adults. Wigan choose it for ourselves, and then it would be such a shame to lose it. what can help is think of a project of any kind of the end goal ultimate goal you have, and then embed your knowledge into building that saying what it could be for example, sorry that book club or setting a goal for yourself to listen. Of Five broadcasts, so defraying topics a week or anything that would drive you. Besson basically anything that would make you interested, not only in this subject. English Enoch Ace but what can come out of it and once again there is no universal cheap, because everyone is driven by sentencing, so decide what it is for yourself a you hear me tell a lot about communities because this is what I'm fashion, a devout. Educator, what I did awhile ago I started a new course which is based on a book delivering happiness away, he commended, and so, what did we connected the social experience with the leading the language and to me it was a really selfish initiative, because I love the book, and they wanted to discuss it with someone in so to me. The English language itself became a tool because this is how I could attract and wind audience, so think what could be the project what would be the goal where English would be a tool? And if he cannot think of something new to add to your routine fame, what they're res already in your routine. Your daily that could be done in English for example. If you have any kind of a diary may be crowded. You'd practice. Maybe even check in with someone who speaks English. Someone who you communicate on a daily basis decide that you will do it in English from now one or at least sometime in tensile, you will white kids own. Maybe you look for some recipes on the Internet! Why not do it in English a workout? Why are they? So saying how you can imbed English into your existing routine or maybe create something new something that will drive you, and it would be just the best match once again. There is no universal cheap. It must be something yours really like that, because it's a way of also utilizing your time right because you can mix your passions, and you can mix your hobbies and also throw in an extra challenge like learning the language in addition to doing the things you already love. There's a quote. I always I always say this to myself. To is just a beer. Beer biggest competitor be your biggest challenge. Our challenge yourself every single day to be better than you were yesterday. So if you know that every single day I am not really reaching my goals and I'm not getting even closer to. Maybe your goal is to become more fluent, and you know you're not reaching that goal like you mentioned. Make a plan. Make a project and you're GONNA. Notice the little little steps that you wire every single day that you add to. Your routine will really go along way so true and they're simple trick by the way. Way I headed from one psychologist Oh, who explores the ways of rain words? She told me that to obtain. It doesn't really matter how big an accomplishment is while we have to do is to celebrate ended. Her is to feel confident term windfall for ice to feel fulfilled will need to celebrate even smallest of compliments, and it would be much better if you spend five ten fifteen minutes every day working towards your goal, then you would do it once for a week and then feel guilty that you did not think throughout the rest of your week. Week, so really setting small goals celebrating dose achievements of will help you build confidence, and it is the right way over reproach, anything fluency in particular pats, a really powerful mindset, and we hear you know parents. Tell you this or just teachers tell you this sky is the limit, and that's so true like you know. We put our own limitations on herself so as you, there is no big or small goal like we can really accomplish whatever we set our minds to show turn. Yeah, I, love it all right. I have a question for you now. So, you know we talked about what we should be doing but what about something we should not be doing so is there any advice or any tip? You have for English language learners of what they should not be doing right now if they are trying to begin their learning process. Here because I have my lessons learned in done those things I should not have been doing. I remember when it just started taking. English leading seriously was better than at the university. I wanted to grow live. Gabe ury very very fun. Because really I was lagging behind. It was my last minute decision to end the university to choose zero major instill I fell. That I need to work twice as high as my group does Jesse. Keep up and so as a beginner. I wanted to look up. airy word iconic draws in an article. I wanted chew translate it and I was sure that it will help me build my vocabulary very when you just look up. Each word you take knows everything, and of course it takes an enormous. Simone does die, and all the right kind of association space for petition. Something that you get to learn the the away. It does not work and I felt so frustrated frustrated I could not get it why Dante remember these words that was like you know the question that was running. My been winning relaxed and went into started to embrace this inability of mind to learn everything it wants and when I started. Started to build a my own routine of leading I, realized that the moment I stopped worrying so much and night. My accused to just enjoying content flooring, the language it much much easier in much foster cell did not force anything because wellness started doing something that is against our will against I'll way all learning, because we are different, land is what can work for one person may not necessarily work for you, and so the second thing that we should not do just do a follow up on what they just said. Sometimes, we believe that what a teacher says. Is this ultimate truth and we get stuck in? Classes was curious than not just awkward type of educators. Somehow I Renault, whether it's Torri about your culture is guys in our culture. At least when I went to school, we consider the teacher to be this ultimate source of knowledge. Teacher knew how to teach. It featured new wall. We needed to learn and so. I just came across so many cases when people went to classes that they did not enjoy when they had to do things they did not see much pointing during themselves, but they said, but I teach her though this that it was a rights thing to do. Once again we're all adults now and wyking choose always a learning, so listen to yourself and don't once again. It should not be the majority of the tasks that you don't fly. There must be something you like and I. Really loved these approach to cooperating as a group of. When a teacher is a partner. Rather than an authority of any kind so thing number two something not to do. Do Not Follow your teachers. Advise without question if you feel very something wrong. Yeah, you know what we need to be our own inspiration, if we can't find it with our role models like our teachers, or even sometimes sadly our parents right, so it's important to remember that just because someone is kind of an authority, figure a teacher. It doesn't mean that you have to accept everything that you hear without like you mentioned having questions, and maybe adding more to the discussion and May. May Be going a little bit deeper on your own, and we mentioned at all the time on this podcast so I sound like a broken record, but it is a journey, so learning a language should be enjoyable. Enjoy the journey. It's not going to happen. Just as you mentioned how you want everything to happen fast. It can't happen fast. It needs to just take its time with it. You need to enjoy the process, and that's going to be so much more rewarding. Yes, shaken, not agree more here as you were talking. You mentioned this broken. Could you know? Think I remember. Is that wine ally? Professor at the university. She sounded like a broken record. And tour also reminded us of one very important thing that we need to first of all consume some content before we speak, because speaking for the sake of speaking does not bring you the desired results, and so one misconception people often hold of learning the language. Is that in order to become more fluent? All you need to do is speak. And so I remember professor repeating again and again if we need to get input before our foot is so while ago, I was privileged to you. How match one of the most famous the gloss of Times Steve Kauffman. Niece over Samin T now. An impressively Smart Besson who knows over twenty languages, Mike Gosh. I remember by that once again. He sounded like a broken record because he did it again and again the before he has an one hour glass was. He's teacher who helps him build fluency Hispanics than Shen five hours of guns, human content Oh. Wow, so one think not to do when you're leading. The language denied hold base misconception that all you need to do to speak back. You're a speak. If you fall in love, these approach than at least listen closely to avoid people. People around you say land from listening and trying to replicate it. Because of rain generated the same constructions again and again and ensure you noticed a lot of times whenever you get stressed all of this new beautiful phrases. You've learned they just you know you cannot think of them you'll. Winner is like this blank sheet, and you cannot think of this new beautiful phrases, because you stick with something you over dome in so if you continue just speaking in order to build fluency unfortunately. You know not be able to generate some new. If you did not foot, something new there fest. Yes, this is simple math that works. It's true. Listening skills are often overlooked. This is why we actually have the podcast. It's so important to consume and listen to the language and listened to mannerisms pronunciation, even tips like. Consuming all the time. If you really want to, you know, have this information ingrained into your brain and you will have forever so that you don't forget things like you mentioned when you really need them to me. The most enjoyable way of learning the language I self is a bad dijk fan of podcasts, and it's my daily retail really. The Lodge for me. In terms self. Content which is industry specific something new every time interesting conversations in English, and it comes so naturally and so effortlessly right I love podcast to. It's one of my favorite things to do when I drive when I clean like all the time. It's part of my daily routine for sure. Okay Yulia, let's get deep here. Overall. How has the English Language Really Changed Your Life? You know changes. The right worried I would even say that it was a game changer. Wow, and it still is because really I told you. It was my last minute decision to study English at the university. And now I feel like voice, a very bright intuitive choice, because begs na realized if I choose. Choose a specific Profession for example, a lawyer I wanted to become a lawyer. I would have had this O'Leary boss. You know to the lawyer. It would be clear that he needed to find a job. It becomes funny. Billion career. Think of a different industries may be by when you learn a language and he choose to make it into your profession. You, kind of see, but unity's. You'd get to learn more about different industries wearing knowing the language is a big advantage and so really lennon language was the smartest toy. Could homemade bed really and so. I just did remember how a started teaching. The language I would like it to work with a lot of companies because I was you know in external vendor and I guide on two different. Your today. I was introduced a variety of corporate colleges, and it could only be possible through a to-do through English through having these shed means of communication, because maybe representatives of those companies are not originally from Ukraine, and still even now as a work in these global company I feel absolutely at ease like whoever I meet I did not have to sink how to address this person. How destroyed a conversation because I know that there is one shed means that we already possess. Before which level of freedom diesel and also I realized that in many countries it may not be a problem, but here in Ukraine in order to read cool book, which is originally written in English sometimes, you have to wait for a while until it gets translated into cranium, and I did not have this problem at all. Because I can you read a regional books and I should not wait for a while, and also you get introduced to different ideas of I. Tend listening to your podcasts to any. English Figari I feel as barring of a big community and knowing only a native language will never give you this other junior team game changer it like in every field of my life, best in a life is well making friends. I did not feel varies annual imitation to befriend in it. Best in from Australia Canada are in Zealand. Several guys if you of feel that she cannot find enough motivation. Come on. There are so many reasons to Laszlo many, and so, how does in garage kind of help with this help? Change lives all this very beautiful phrasing. Thank you for that. A I must say that idea of creating English was boring to offer stretching. BECAUSE MY GO! Go founder. English and die. We were a little bit disappointed with the way the language was taught like you know this classical approach when people have to spend some time in the classroom, gavitt homework, and that was it right and know where realized that there are many more, but unit. Is that already exist by? People just did not see them because they get stuck believing that English, learning is only about glass from learning and so Inger Iraj stems from these idea of what is American regionally as garage culture. We can think so many companies that started in garage. A place where you can experiment where you can do think is so. Our original water was do things in English because we wanted to unite people around things that are interesting present. Get them to work in projects, collaborate exchange ideas work the words she had goals, and in the process leading the language was just in means not an ultimate goal. You get to learn Samson in English. In order to be able to present this idea in a better way, or in order to talk about something new. You have to learn this new gap by it becomes fun because you did not feel that. This is the goal of on meeting to learn the phrases. The goal is to learn about something visas. And so I just remembered. Wind furnishings as we head was as students. It was a pretty simple idea. Golden it career backstage when he got. Some hidden agendas of their jobs because you know when you think of a voyeuristic and conscience, person organizers sedans, you hold certain image of down total then when they televise it. You get to learn so many new since you. Betcha in so I. Remember how passionate people worry talking about something that is never told the valid in order to do that. They get to lowering some of functional language for presentations. They got to learn some gramlich instructions, and so on, and they could immediately see how it helps them. Talk about something they care about in. This sense of community and sense of shared bedposts is what Mace in garage for did this and would help people become won't confidence figures and communicators. That's really amazing so learning through doing and learning through things you love, which is kind of the theme of what we've been talking about. That's really cool. Thank you, yeah, so where can our listeners off? Find out more about in garage Gladly link till beach in from Ebay. You may be getting to facebook page in style Shalgham. What Tampa means works for you perfect. Thank you so much for the. The information I will make sure to put it in the episode description box for all our listeners You really shared a lot of interesting discussions during this talk, so I really appreciate this Yulia. It was really inspiring to see how English can be used as a tool to really change someone's life for more tips, advice and stories surrounding the English language make sure to subscribe to our podcast and please leave us. US A five star review since we are pretty new guys, every review helps and your support really means a lot to us at glitch. Don't forget that we actually are looking for more guests who have a story to share, so you need to be willing to speak English but even if your English is not perfect, don't worry about it. 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Spencer Breecker on Representing Coaches/Execs, Joining CAA Sports, His Career and More (Ep. 182)

The HoopsHype Podcast With Alex Kennedy

35:34 min | 1 year ago

Spencer Breecker on Representing Coaches/Execs, Joining CAA Sports, His Career and More (Ep. 182)

"Welcome to the website podcast. My Name Is Alex. Kennedy today joined by Spencer Breaker. Who's an agent for? Nba Coaches and executives? He worked at Kaufman Sports Management Group. Which was recently acquired by CA? Sports as part of the move Spencer promoted to see as head of the basketball coaches and executives division Spencer Represents People like Mike Below Monty Williams Steve Clifford in many others and excited to pick his brain so starting off. I just wanted to talk about your background. And how you Kinda got to this point. Can you kind of breakdown? How you got started in the business and when you first realized that this is the path that you wanted to go down representing executives and coaches. Yeah I mean to be honest you never really realise that I think someone recently at A. I'm at a friend's house. And he came over hadn't seen him since high school. He said in the fourth grade that I wanted to be a sports agent. I honestly don't remember that. But like many sports agents that you see these days whether it's from Jerry Maguire or from ARL was a big. I was a big fan of airless. Genre yeah and I've always wanted to work in sports. There was no doubt I played a lot of sports in high school. Not Good enough to play to higher level but to me there was no other option. I don't know if I would be able to do anything and do anything. Well wasn't sports but then Like most stories. I was fortunate enough to get in touch with You know someone who's in Steve Kaufman and I actually had a job. I really enjoyed it. But then I was working for E. G. which the entertainment company and managing people and I was loving it out of college and I'd met Steve and we went to dinner. I wasn't really looking for a job. At all. And he was representing he just started representing coaches and executives. He'd been a longtime player. Agent forever representing guys like you know. Doc Rivers Been Wallace of bunch of guys and was looking for someone to file an answer. The phone and He offered me half of the salary was current making currently making who were with him and I remember going to his office. He worked at home L. A. And I saw his board he had a board of all coaches the prospects he was going after all the names and that actually got me really excited to be a part of that and I knew at that time I was twenty three. I think and I didn't really need money. I didn't I wasn't looking forward and I knew that was opportunity to take a chance and I'm very fortunate that he took a chance on me to and from there kind of just got in and I'm very thankful for it and we just Kinda shot up God clients and learned a lot and had nice run. Yeah that's amazing. I think that's around the time that you and I connected. We talked a little bit. When you're working with Steve Over the years that you kinda worked with Steve. What were some of the biggest things that he taught you or you know things that you learn from that experience. Yeah I mean it's really hard to put into words to be honest. What he's meant to me both personally and professionally Giving me a chance in new clients the same way I mean they were able to kind of take me under and put a lot of trust and Refer me other clients and that was really helpful but from particularly from Steve. What I noticed I was that you know when you think sports agent sometimes whether it's TV shows or movies you think about you. Know Boundaries. Steve Really taught me that with integrity. You can still be successful in the business. And that's what stood out to me every time I have been in this talking to people around the League about Steve. They all talk about his integrity or him as a person and I think oftentimes a misconception in the businesses that you know you gotta be a little shady to to get things done but Steve has been very very successful and very well respected based on that integrity and that was the first thing that stood out to me was that you can be successful with it and then the other thing I was thinking about that Brill. Tommy was just how to value these clients as people. I mean to become coach or executive or player if you're representing players or if you're in TV or film I mean to get that level that these guys are out to be an NBA head coach. I mean if you think about the odds chances are how many how few seats there are in that position. I mean these are really really special. People the MONTY Williams of the World Steve Clever. It's the micro Malone's all these guys that just really really special minds people fathers husbands. You know all that to get to that level you really have to. We're not selling widgets here. I mean these are people you gotta value them as people and special ones. Dadan that those are the main things I could go on and it could be a whole nother podcast just about what Steve has taught me but those are the two things that stood out to me. Yes great you know and I think this world is so interesting to me because I don't really know a whole lot about it. You know I think we hear a lot about the agent world with players. And we've we've tried to hoops hype to write different articles and do different podcasts. Where we kind of give fans in readers a behind the scenes. Look at what. It's like to be a player agent but Sandoz articles. So they you so much appreciate that. What are the biggest differences between representing for an office executives and coaches and representing players? Yeah I mean I. I haven't ever represented players obviously have been around. The Industry Stephen represented players can't really get into like the day to day what it'd be like this because I haven't done it. Sure from a logistical side. We're not bound by any sort of rules like a CPA or anything like that. So that stands out to me. Is your ability to be creative. A lot in the negotiations Contractual elite just so just the lack of rules but in a good way. I mean it's not just Kinda wild wild west without when I'm saying by that but I think obviously the age difference is big That has changed. But it's also again. I can't beat the other agents relationships with their players but it's very much like a peer to peer relationship. You these coaches are older You END UP. Kinda growing closed them as family men and I really enjoy that aspect and I can see From a difference obviously just from an age gap. I mean you're able to kind of have a business like relationship with them that gross I also quite frankly obviously the lower paid and they deserve more money. Again for another podcast. We can get into that. They're lower bait and marketing endorsement. Speaking engagements are all different. As compared to representing player where They have different marketability. There's different companies that look for them. There's different Types of speaking engagements that they'd be looking for but overall yeah. I mean representing players. It seems these days that there's Max players in players there's mid level and all the different aspects from with a coach. It's fair game where they should be. The highest paid lead assistant coach the highest head coach length of deal options triggers. You can make up clauses and throw narrow. It's fun from that aspect. Wow I didn't think about that aspect of it I you know making it the clauses and just kind of not having to be by the. Cba is so interesting. So when you're when you're answering these negotiations is A. Are you allowed to get creative? And do you just say you know we're GonNa ask for all these things and see what they give us or. Is there some kind of standard that you wanNA stick to just so that you don't upset people? How does it Kinda work when you're in these negotiations because there's no standard or no rules really in place or does it? Kind of vary from situation to situation. Yeah I mean just like any negotiation. You'RE GONNA ask for anything. See what happens so true like that but the standards would be like in any business business ethics. I mean you you want to make sure that you have a good relationship with whomever you're dealing with the owner of the president the GM innocent GM or the coach him sells So there are. There are rules from the Just basic business code But I mean overall. Yeah you can. It's it's really fun. You can be creative and use bonuses that your top five in defensive efficiency or top ten nist top seven. Get a trigger if you make the playoffs. It's over. It's actually really fun when he gets with. Each team has a different version of contracts that they like to Give for as employment agreements with coaches or executives but overall similar clauses are all in their interesting. It sounds like On goal needed to negotiate a coach and executive coaching based on stuff he was asking for. But that's a different story. We actually have an article coming up on hoops hype about different Incentives that are in. And how a lot of the incentives for players now are based on advance stats and you mentioned defensive rating. I know some of them are about true. Shooting percentage in sometimes there is even formulas like you know your rebounds per thirty six minutes minus XYZ. Or whatever I mean. It's getting to the point where there's a lot of of analytics in these incentives does that exist also on the coaching style. You mentioned defensive rating as an example. Can you speak to some of the incentives that exist when you're negotiating these contracts or I know like you said you can really ask for anything? But what are some more common than others? Yeah a lot of it obviously is based on team success. Short you now Associated with a player specific players. Most of it is based on team. Success whether it's play offs or I wouldn't call them basic stats but overall stats like the offensive rating offense rating I remember vividly Jeff. Bauer was one of the first to do that and He was the GM of the New Orleans Hornets at the time and he was one of the first to be willing to get creative. So it's it's again sorry to keep going back to like any sort of business negotiatied. I mean it depends on each party of. They're willing to get creative if they see the upside to find a way in the middle that both parties can win But as far as like the how advanced gets because we're talking about overall team success. I think it depends on what the team is looking for out of the coach whether they really want to improve defensively where they really want improve offense. Bali but I would say traditionally it's more We made the playoffs wins and losses. Or you know finishing somewhere both from an efficiency standpoint interesting. Yeah you know I was thinking that because these guys are typically older more mature when you're kind of representing them That you know maybe a little less high maintenance Because with players you know when. I did that article about agents sharing their crazy stories. I talked about Being in strip clubs trying to help a guy or You know this tons of crazy stories about basically trying to help their players get out. He's insane situations I'd imagine that doesn't happen as often in your line of work would you agree that may be the clients that you're working with a little bit less high maintenance or Easier to deal with at times. Yeah I mean again I. I hate to take the the answer way from you. But I I haven't represented any other types out but There's clients are all different. You know they're different personalities some whether it's high maintenance or low maintenance and we've really been fortunate enough to be afforded opportunity that were we can be a little bit picky with the types of clients represented. We're really proud of them. And but I I. I can't say as far as you know. A player of there are more high maintenance or less. I think whether they're twenty whether fifty whatever their background is Some are going to be low maintenance going to be high maintenance based on the numbers you know when you represent fifty sixty guys. They all come different forms so but either way I think you and this is something that Steve. Also really Tommy's you adapt to the situation so you have to be able to adapt to the different personalities of them to make sure that You know you. You're able to connect with them. And however they feel is best for them in their family for sure. What are some of the things that you look for an up and coming coaches and executives? You know whenever we're talking about agents and the players side obviously they're looking at prospects they're coming out of college and all that when you're looking for top clients that are up and coming in the coaching world or in the front office world. How do you kind of identify their talent or their potential to question Alex? I mean there really isn't an exact science to it to be honest. I look both how I'd put it internally and externally external you look at their their background their profile who they worked for they played for. They played with who they work with the text of influences. They've had Maybe the roles and responsibilities with particular team or the players may they've worked with you know and then internally you talk to people around the league you have a trusted circle and you know referral base where you can speak to people that have either worked with them closely to them to really kind of see how they are day to day. We'll kind of upside. They have how they are to work with. Because I From my perspective I'm not there every single day Working with them in the video room or on the court so I really trust it. A lot of the people around the lead to Kim kind of giving the referral and then the the bottom line to me to just from being around a lot of coaches and executives. You know your gut feel just like at anything. He said across them having coffee or breakfast. And just kind of get a feel from being around Again fortunately enough like Steve Clifford a Monte Taylor. All these guys you can kind of just get a gut and to say hey. This guy is going to be really good or I really like this guy. He's got great expectations or his approach is really good. And that Ozzy can tip the scales one way or another to just being face to face with someone for sure what thing that I hear from different executives or coaches especially ones that maybe are in a top position. They're thinking how can I get my name out there? How can I climb the ranks? I want to do more and get noticed. And I think it's very hard for them sometimes because they don't get the credit that they feel they deserve. Sometimes they don't know what to do take that next step in their career because it's hard to quantify their success and they don't Wanna put their name out there and take credit for stuff because that could be a bad book. You're you're right and and to me. It's a little bit of a red flag if if they are kind of putting their name out there two months and that's just my personal approach. Everyone's different but I look at you know guy like Stephen Silence or something. I mean it's my job to promote that. He's coach to rookies of the year in a rookie. Season like Lebron blueberries. Coach was Steph Curry and Kemba in all that he's the son a coach or Brown Grad. Like these these are the things that I want to brag about. And if they put their head down and work guys like him and Adrian Bridgeton Darvin Ham. They're going to get their opportunities and they know that and they're good people like that but I I like to be the one personally to brag about them. I feel that's my job. I learned early in this that way to get from coaching standpoint to get let's say kicked out of the. League is usually if you gossip too much or don't work and those are the two main ways That's that's my opinion. Yeah no that makes sense getting. If you're if you're taking credit for every little thing that you do in your names out there a lot than not only I think. Is it a red flag for people like yourself but the people that you work within your organization start to resent you think that you're kind of me first guy so they're in a lot. I do you know showed your team to is just that it is about the team that whether you're ball handler shooter. You know that we all have our different roles and the same ago of in any coaching staff. Same ago probably with Youtube Sipe and your producer. And what your role is and stay with me here at ca a main. So I think if you're talking to a guy and he's talking about him him him. The Gut feel is that the leadership might not be there. Bright that's good point. How do you recruit new clients because again I? I don't know this world that well. So what's that process like? Yeah I mean a lot of it is word of mouth to smaller circle than you think so. A lot of it comes from other clients. Say I've had a lot of success with this person. I really liked this person. You should talk them. I'd say the majority of that comes from just word of mouth from your in your circle. you've learned quickly that that the the NBA coaching executive world isn't as big as one main. Think so you really have to approach it. You know understanding that it's going to get around how you are day to day and how you deal with other teams and your client a maintenance or management with each individual so I'd say the vast majority of it comes from word of mouth from other agents other player agents that might feel good about it. The actual coaches executives media members There's no there's no one way but ev. It's I would say a little bit more rare than you pick up the phone and called calling guys. At least that's been my experience but everyone's different on on their approach. But I think I've seen a lot of I've been very thankful and I've seen a lot of success from the word of mouth approach because you get guys as similar. Ilk that you know are fit. That mold of that client base that you're looking for so that approach has been As worked very well For me you getting a embedding the types of clients that you want to represent that you want to feel good about pitching around the league right. Is it common for executives and coaches to switch agents or agencies in his? They're poaching like there is in the player agent world. Yeah I mean it's it's competitive So I would say it's a not knowing the Asian world but just play GIN world. Where reading stories. I don't know if it's as prevalent but it is competitive. I mean It's like any business but Steve Kauffman again to go back. Tommy Tommy this just like many businesses. It creates paranoia. All this stuff does so when you're working in this you have to approach every single day like someone trying to take your client. And how often does it depends on the time of year But you have to approach in that same sort of way and I can't say compared to the player agents but it does happen And but just like the coaches are the players It's competition so this business and we understand but you have to have the right approach going into each day. I think we recently did an interview with someone that runs one of the search firms that you know helps NBA teams or NC Double A. Teams find a new head coach. Or a new executive rene go through the whole process and kind of facilitate that whole process And One thing. I thought I just seen as we talked about. How sometime coaches are scared to pick up the phone and show interest and other teams because their worry. Oh this will leak Or you know this team to tell my current employer that about my interest and then all of a sudden Even if I end up getting this job screwing over the current employer or alienating the you know ruining the current job that I have how much I am. Sure that's an important part your job to kind of having those conversations so that your your client is kind of Getting screwed over it any way. Or there's no leaks and because not only cannot upset the higher ups like GM if a coach is out there looking at other things then owner the GM but also the locker room can be lost if they think you have one foot out and you're looking for opportunities. So is that kind of a big part of your job where you're constantly monitoring the marketplace so that those conversations don't have to happen and your client has kinda screwed over now. It's a great a great point. Alex I mean I think contractually to. You can't be looking for another job to devote all your time to specific team so it doesn't. It's not a good look whether or not. It's contractual but You you can't do that employed by specific teams so it goes back to your earlier point which was such a good one about kind of putting your name out there. I mean it's just it doesn't work variety of ways and It's including contractually right. That makes us too. Yeah so I wanNA talk about your move to see a So CA sports they Acquired Coffin Sports Management Group. And you are now see a sports head of basketball coaches and the executives vision. Can you talk about what that move? Entails and how excited you are now be part of Ca Sports. Yeah I I'm extremely excited. It's all happening pretty quick and We never had really. There's not like a marketplace where you put a company up for sale so it never really occurred to us that this would be possible. But the people see a particularly. How a new challenge Jimmy Sexton? They've been so good in the process they've made sure that everyone is comfortable in approach. The clients were really excited. But for me it's been about the people here the the sports division. And that how we end. Vino run its unmatched to be honest. And then Jimmy from a football but a coach's perspective if any of your listeners. Look Up Jimmy. Sexton what he's done as an agent. I mean he's the cream of the crop when it comes to it so for me to very fortunate personally to be able to learn from him and work with him the other sports especially basketball Heads Austin Brown and Stephen Human and Aaron? Men's I mean I'm personally very excited about it but it was more important is it's GonNa be great with clients. I mean the resources that ca has and has had so many years it gives these clients and opportunity to work with broadcasting agents and brass department. Endorsement Marketing you know from community service aspect from speaking engagements. They have so many high level people in departments that are already in motion and elite level. Stuff that it's really going to help the clients and that's probably most important. I told you personally just being around these people. I'm fortunate so it's it's going to be a long big run. We're going to do a lot of things obviously in the NBA or now representing nine MBA head coaches but from college basketball perspective to expect for us to be dominant force in that as well. So I I don't know what the future holds were there but I know it's going to be at a high level and I'm thankful for that. Yeah and I'm so happy for you you know. I know you've worked really hard for this. And means sports is so huge and I think we talked a lot of agents they would love to end up there and be part of ca so to have a huge position over there Congratulations to you. And I know you've earned this so it was really excited when I saw that news. Come out what was it. Like to be the subject of a woge bombed by the way the first time it was interesting. I was here at C. A. And he finds out everything obviously and how he does. It's still beyond me when I was in. Hr's office when that happened and my phone. I felt so bad. Because it's such a such nice people and my phone was going crazy. Hundred hundred calls and I was in the middle of getting all set up here and I just felt so bad for the situation but I I'd never seen the effects of that bomb And it's probably not nearly what it would be like for a trade or anything. I avoided reading the comments. I think some of my friends actually did and they laughed about him. But I think the first thing I learned from anybody was just don't read the comments section. So that was my first piece of advice in anymore. Which bomb definitely. Yeah I it seems like it's to the point now that you'd like if you break anything other than a trade or a big sign. Him People are like we want to hear a trade. They just go nuts over that but I thought it was. Oh cool. I'll go on justifiably so I mean like the the news. I'm thankful that he did. I'm thankful that we were able to kind of get the news out there but I. I don't blame any of the fans just like your listeners. You've had crema build your bar and Earl Monroe and Spencer. Dewey I think miles turner I mean so. I'm this is all new to me. I'm thankful for it but I don't blame the fans. They and who is that or cares down as well. You have such interesting story though. That's why did one have you on to pick your brain and kind of talk about Your assent here and you know that's one thing that I always find interesting when I do these different long forums. Or whether it's you know behind the scenes long form or behind the scenes type podcast. I learned so much about the job and you know what that world is like what different processes are like so I think at hoops. I think we have a lot of listeners or readers that WanNa work and sport some day so they may not even know. This is the path they can go down or anything like that and then when they hear about it. They're intrigued you think. Oh it's so cool. Kinda you were saying about yourself you know early on. You didn't have this path in mind but then you kind of figured it out. Learned about it and thought okay. That's for me and then got great at it so I think it's always interesting whenever we can kinda open. There is two different things and you know a lot of times. Our our fans are die hard. Nba Fans Our readers or listeners are diehard NBA. Fan and I look at every single morning the first thing I told all my assistants and interns. This is what you check every single morning as soon as you get an office so it's for people within the NBA. It's for agents. You guys do a great job. Well thank you so much I've been doing. I've been reading it long before I worked here. I was the same way I was checking it refreshing all day long. So do you WANNA ask This to what are some misconceptions about your job. Or your world that or things that maybe fans don't realize about either executives or coaches in general or the process representing those people is. Is there anything that comes to mind? Yeah I think like one of the first misconceptions I would think about is that it isn't just about like the contract negotiation and I think often people think of the movies or TV where you're pounding your fists table and your trading millions of dollars back and forth and incentives. I mean that obviously is an incredibly important part of it but it is just a part of it. I mean I think just like the story of Taylor Jenkins Memphis Grizzlies. Head coach who. I believe to be one of the main candidates for coach of the year to give him that blown at just the negotiation. If we really look back and step back maybe lasted two or three weeks but it was really kind of him and I give him a lot of credit learning the business when he was with the spurs becoming G. League head coach and then going to Atlanta Hawks and sitting behind the bench for bud he was doing media training for he was going on different. Podcasts learn his skills like that throughout the whole time too. He was a prepping his interview. Packet you know like a coaching book. That you'd bring into an interview and how he wants to approach. Hey sort of interview when you build a staff. Then he would go on basketball. Without Borders and Kim Mahoney in the NBA does a great job of dad and he's able to meet people and get out there and run a clinic and that has all built my relationship with him and and being able fortunately to be a part of that too that culmination of that negotiation and becoming the head coach the Memphis Grizzlies. But it's really so much more from a client management standpoint to kind of prep for that. I mean if you think about it Taylor interviewed his first time with the great guys. Are Jason Wexler that climbing with the Memphis Grizzlies during an eastern conference finals. And so there's a lot of preparation that goes into that so he's able to and I thankfully for John Hartson Bud giving him the opportunity to do that during the finals. But there's so much that goes in so he's prepared for that moment. 'cause you might only get one shot and I. It really isn't like okay here. It is I want this amount of money. You Dad there we go. And that's the job that that to me would be the most because misconception and it's the also also the other thing I think about is just these aren't widgets. You're we're not selling deaths or pens or anything like that. Yeah these are people and and it's really good when when guys like Taylor get their opportunity and some people lose their jobs and it's really difficult families have to move and change schools and sell houses so There's a lot that comes with it. I'm just fortunate enough to be a part of their life with it. But they're they're it's much more than just. The typical client goes in that you see. Yeah that makes sense. Glad you kinda provided insight there So I I know like I said we do have people that. Listen to this podcast. That WanNa work in sports someday so I WANNA ask. What advice would you give someone that wants to become a front office executive and then also what advice would you give someone that wants to become an agent? Someday I feel terrible. 'cause probably my interns if they ever listen to this. They're going to say he said that one hundred times so forgive me but I think the biggest thing from my perspective is just any experience helps just to get involved. I was the same way. Just kind of getting out of college. Or starting in the workforce. And you're like hey it really matters what the name of the company is on my business card or what my position is. I think you just get in sports in general. If you're working in that whether it's from a team or agent side the experience has helps run with get your foot in the door. Get THE EXPERIENCE. Make the connections around in at a place like Ca. You might be working in basketball. Bullets say maybe realize representing a basketball broadcasters important or helping them from a community service standpoint once you get in the relationships and the departments and experience you have I think is so important. I mean for me All the stories are different. I can only talk to mind but yeah I worked in a warehouse for E G Fulton t shirts and I just. I really did it because of the the opportunity to work in sports. And we were full. Lakers t shirts for Lakers STORE DOT COM. And I was just exciting to me. I WAS BEING LAKERS. Fan growing up and While I if the T. shirt had a lakers brand or any sort of sports on it I was willing to do it and it. It forwarded me the opportunity to make some connections to in the business so I'd say like a same way when he first started you. Say Okay this is going to be my job for life. My God my first job. This is this is done. I mean this is the path and taking. I guess it's over when really. It's just kind of get any sort of experience and move on from there not nets my particular. Take on it. I love that. Did you have a a moment where you were going from being this big Laker fan of big NBA Fan too? I kind of like you're welcomed the NBA moment. Where you're thinking. Wow look where I am now. I know sometimes whenever our careers are ascending and stuff. A lot of people. Don't take the time to slow down and appreciate the those moments but there have been moments like that hits you and you're thinking. Oh Wow like look where? I am now from folding t shirts X. number of years ago. Yeah I mean to be honest. It happens a lot every year. I'm like wow. I can't believe this even just the other night I was sitting on the floor Pre-game kind of your schmoozing pre-game as an agent and I thought about it to myself and I was like I can't believe this but the one moment that stands out This probably was who three or four or five years ago. I was sitting. Larry Bird's office negotiating within my phone is ringing and it was Patrick Ewing. At the time and just Kinda of sat back I remember walking out of there and it's again like the movies. Everything's blurry and you're like where am I? You know these. Are you know the greatest ever do it? You Know First Ballot Hall of famers fifty greatest players and they just kinda collided at the same time. Now obviously there are business aspects to it you know but that moment particularly really stands out but every time every time I'm sitting there with any of the clients and you realize how good of a Stephen always told me this but personally just the relationships you build with these people. That's by far the best part you go to their homes. You meet their families. You realize like how smart they are the leaders. I mean all these relationships that you build on just I hate to get corn animated so fortunate to be able to be around these people and that's my job. I mean Basically Watch basketball and talk on the phone for a living. It's incredible incredible. Yeah it doesn't get much better than that. Oh last night for you. What's your ten year plan? Do you have any goals in mind that you would like to? I feel like I guess like long-term what are some things that you WANNA do? I feel like you're dating my daughter and I'm like questioning you interrogate you here but I'm just curious. Do you have a ten year plan or anything that you the goals you want to accomplish Really JUST LEARN. I can't I I don't WanNa Kinda go cliche on it but really the way that I've always approached it as just each day just like a coach and a lot of stuff. I take his from the clients just in life to continuously improve every single day and then. I don't know what it would be for ten years but I know if I do that and I learned from Jimmy Sexton here and how we and the whole basketball group. I'll be in a good position but I. I don't know where that's going to be. I just want to be healthy and I just want all my friends and family and loved ones and people. I work with to be healthy after ten years and that'll be more than perfect me for sure. We'll spend like I said I'm really happy for you. I think you deserve as you were incredibly hard and you put it in. So many you know years Grinding away so when I saw this news out so happy and I'm glad you're able to join me to kind of break this down so thank you so much time. I appreciate it. I appreciate you reach now and US getting together on this. It'll be Kuan. I hope your listeners. Get something from it and again going to go back to the bombs just please be nice comments section. My friends I love it be nice. Everyone being guys won't listen to more episodes with hoops hype. Podcast check us out an apple. Podcasts spotify anywhere. Your favorite podcasts are found and until next time thanks for listening.

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Learning A Love Of Language w/ Steve Kaufmann

Extra Pack of Peanuts Travel Podcast

55:28 min | 7 months ago

Learning A Love Of Language w/ Steve Kaufmann

"Nothing fazes her like. We were in Brenno Zaire's staying in an AIRBNB. And she woke up at three in the morning, and there was a cockroach in her hair, and she said Steve. You're staying up to fend off the cockroaches. Some sitting there, my bad. There's another car coach crawling up my arm. Like five dead gone coaches on the floor by the morning. She wasn't happy. We out of that place. Is the extra packet peanuts travel podcast episode. Or Twenty eight. This country has the longest coastline of any country in the world, and in fact, if you were to walk around the country without sleeping, eating or resting, it would take roughly four and a half years. And I guess what country is. I'll let you know at the end of the show. Hello, travel nerds, and welcome to the extra pack of peanuts travel podcast the show that teaches you how to travel more while spending less I'm your host, Travis Jerry joining me today as someone who's a retired diplomat who has fifty years of travel under his belt, and who speaks twenty languages Steve. Kauffman from link. Dot Com Steve Thanks for joining me and a huge welcome. To be here and we're just talking about this right before you hit record. It's easy to be blown away by this number. Right like twenty languages. People like Whoa that's insane, but that was not always the case for you. Let let's back it up a bit and kind of tell us what your language learning journey has been like. Okay well I grew up Montreal, but in the English speaking part of Montreal because in those days the two communities were kind of separate, which is not the case today, but it was in those days more than fifty years ago. And then I got interested in French. We'd had it in school I couldn't speak, but I got very interested. Interested in the culture in those days was Lat Nouvelle vague in all the movies, and so I ended up getting keen on franchise I hitch. Actually I worked on a boat to get across. Europe I ended up settling into France by studied for three years, and that Kinda got me into a situation where I transferred myself into someone fluent in. In another language, which is a a life changing experience so then when I joined the Canadian diplomatic service and they wanted someone to learn. Chinese I said I'm your man. I was confident that I could learn so then. I was sent to Hong Kong in man. Then and then I ended up going to Japan where I live for nine years. And then once you know you can do something fun to do it. And then I just did it. It with other languages as well and and particularly as as sixty eight. I had nine languages when I retired, and now I've learned another eleven since the age of sixty. Wow, so it was just something for you that you again. You didn't have any special skills as in a kid or a teenager right? Didn't it didn't speak French even at that point and it just you kind of the bug a little bit. What have you felt as far? Far, as you said once, you know, you can do it. You and you like it. You just start doing it. Have you felt that it becomes easier the more that you know? Is there like a bit of a tipping point? Maybe where it becomes harder, it becomes easier always easier and I think I had. It's possible that my situation was favourable. Because I was actually born in Sweden, and at the age of five. My family moved to Canada. I quickly forgot Swedish, but that was there in my brain when I was very young, and of course you, can you hear French around? Montreal and I think that the more flexible. Your brain is different sounds different ways of saying things those are those are. Positive but I was at this polyglot conference. Speakers of many languages probably Glide Conference in Montreal, and I was speaking to a group of six hundred people, and I said how many of you grew up in a lingual family, and hardly anybody put their hand up, so it's not a condition but anything that makes your brain more flexible if you only have one language, your brain is set up to deal with one set of sounds. One set of sort of ways of saying things, and as you find that there are other ways other sounds, your brain becomes more flexible, and so you're resist the new language less and less so I learn languages today at the age seventy four faster than I did when I was twenty. Yeah that's an interesting concept. The being like a flexible brain and I like the word you're like it resists it less because it does seem as someone who speaks one language, and now my sister is getting married to a guy who only speak Spanish right. I only speak English very rudimentary Spanish and so I've started down this journey of like all right. Now I have a real real real reason to learn Spanish. Right and and a real desire to, and so, but it does. It seems like a resistance right. It's so different and so foreign right now for me to try to learn a language, and so, what are some ways that people listening? They're like Oh. That makes sense that word resistance does make sense. It seems difficult surgeries it's how can we make our brains more flexible as adults? You just have to you know. Go for it and not worry about it. One of the things that I do my sort of approach to language learning is to focus on comprehension. Because you're not going to embarrass yourself. If you working on comprehension so I build up my cabinet area, build up my leg, comprehension, my ability to read Simon Jesting all this stuff, and that's slowly conditioning my brain to this new language. If you don't have that background, and you just try, and I want to say something in the language. You're going to say it right or say. Say IT wrong. You don't understand what the other person is saying. It's all very uncomfortable, so my strategy is to focus primarily on comprehension for the first three months six months, and then what I have that as a base then I started speaking, and when you start speaking and don't don't ever is like I can remember. When I started learning Chinese, there was another Canadian diplomat there. In Chinese to say. Are you going the Chinese? Actually say you GONNA go. That's how they say new. You'll go go, and this guys are action last. Is that ever stupid? Like, how can you say? About another language that's just how they say it may be the English way of saying it is stupid. You know so there. Is this thing that and so? We were mocked it to abandon are comfortable native language. We're not gonNA. Make a mistake. We're happy, and so then it's uncomfortable like the water is cold but you just have to get in. They're not worried about it. And as I say, focus on comprehension that that makes you more comfortable if you have good comprehension interesting, so that's interesting me. Because obviously, there's a there's never one right way to do it, but there are different methods at work for different people and. I. Just want to throw that out there. Because I am a firm believer in anything you're doing. You can do multiple different ways, but some people are going to resonate with certain ways, so if I'm someone who's interested in speaking like not that I don't want to read and write, but for me it's like. I like speaking people. I want to be able to go somewhere. Speak to them, have a conversation so obviously speaking and comprehending listening. Would you still recommend then like Dewey essentially practicing on my own, like I am not getting out and speaking to people, but I m working on comprehension of Vocab, and you could tell me what does that even mean in? My am I doing flash cards? What are you? Okay. So there's there's nothing early speaking right away if you have easy access to people who speak the language. That's not always the case, so when I was in Japan, I started speaking right away. Big and when you do that, you're triggering. Input your triggering. They're gonNA say something, so you're. GonNa have to try to comprehend it so basically you learn from input. You'll learn from stuff that comes into your brain. 'cause you don't have the language in you, so you can only. Something that has already previously. Them brought in right. So input is the way you learn, but if you want to do it by talking to people, but it's difficult because there's not much you can say, and so, and you probably may not. You may not understand what they're saying and for them whoever you're talking to a friend or teacher, then they'll try to Kinda limit the conversation to things that they think you can handle, but that's GonNa. Be Very Limited so to me that the. Activity is listening. So if you mess son, and so once you. Messin and you don't understand which is usually the case. Then and that's what we do at mangoes. Ashley you have like. We have these very simple mini. Stories with a lot of repetition lot of high frequency verbs need verbs to talk, Ron. Go Need Com- take give and so and with a lot of repetition. And I listened to his over and over again, and then I read them, and then if I'm online or on my ipad or my iphone I can look up the words, and I listened again 'cause if I, you're gotta get a toehold in the language, so that's the way I start. I don't do flash cards. But if I have an opportunity to speak, however limited language is I'm GonNa, use it, but if I have to arrange to go and visit with a teacher or even to find a teacher online. I'm not going to do a lot of that. 'cause it's a lot more effort. And I know from experience that that if I have an online discussion with a tutor a very early stage, we're GONNA use the words that I have. Whereas, if I listened him story with a lot of repetition, I might end up with three hundred words, and I may have to listen to it again and again, but I can listen to it again and again because I have it whereas that conversation is gone, so I just find it more efficient like the goal is to speak, and wherever like if I have five words, and I come across someone who is of that language group. I'M GONNA. Hit them for sure because that's fun. I have to also invest in getting the language in me and that's the. That's the thing I love the way you phrased that that the way you learn is through input right? Yeah, naturally. We don't have it inside of us so unless we've read it. Practice it on a flash card IPAD. Would heard it. We can't say like I'M NOT GONNA. Make up a Spanish word. That I know from nowhere. It's like if I'm saying that I learned in. Ninth Grade Coming back to me, but it was input at some at some point, and so then for you. How you mentioned with this idea of comprehension when you are learning a language, what is your? What would you say is your ultimate goal? Is it to speak or do you try to have reading writing speaking? Do you like to have them at comparable levels? Okay, I find that reading is very powerful. That if I just hear something and I don't see it down. It's more difficult to remember. So I even like right now I'm learning Arabic and Farsi Persian. So it's it's. It's a bit of an effort to learn the writing system because it's difficult. But because I have the writing system now now that I progressed through my simple many stories and I'm doing now is I download podcasts in Arabic? And Farsi and I found the person in Iran, and another person in Jordan. They transcribe these for me, so I can read them so I have a better chance of acquiring vocabulary, but my goal in a language is to be able to understand like podcast. is to be able to get together with people and talk about a wide range of things I. Don't want to just say I think it's a bit of an allusion that you can have this limited limited, you know. Two Beers was the bathroom and that's somehow going to carry you it. It's it's hard. I tried went to Vietnam and for a few weeks before going there, I tried to learn some phases and couldn't use them. It's you actually need. At quite a you know a decent level in order to operate an even there. You're going to be in many situations where you don't understand so so my goal ultimately is to be able to have comfortable conversations where people are comfortable, talking to me and I'm comfortable. Talking to them I make mistakes. I missing words I use gestures all this other stuff by essentially. We're communicating in. Yeah, so your goal is to get to a level of communication. Where you yeah, you can be a a Fr-. You know a friend or An interesting person for them to talk to. Then for you, we're talking about. The podcast thought that was interesting. You had them transcribe. Are you listening to a podcast and then reading as you go or you say? It depends. For, Arabic again there's so many things now. That are available, right, even empty MP three files and stuff. That wasn't available fifty sixty years ago. and so we have text to speech, so if I'm doing Arabic where we have text to speech on our website, then I can be leading, and just if I'm not sure of the press I'll listen to the text to speech, but it when I listened to the actual natural voice is if I'm on my bicycle. If I went down to the gym, if I'm doing the dishes I, mean the car. That's when I'm. I'm listening to it and when I'm listening on getting twenty thirty forty fifty sixty percent of the depending on my level then I go back and read it and I read it again and and look words as I'm reading, and then I might listen to it again and early on. You'd have to listen to the same stuff more than once later on. You don't have to listen to often because you're better, but so I I do sometimes like I. Sometimes go through these items on our website again sentence by sentence and listen to that sentence than read that sentence it all depends on your level, but but most like the my main activity is listening if I didn't do all clean up at home if I didn't work out if I didn't like riding my bike of jogging I probably wouldn't listen learn languages. Listening is is the. The power APP right listening triggers everything. So when you listen, you don't understand. Then you gotta go. Read it, so you can understand. Go listen again to see if you understand more so listening is is is something that's mostly done away from the texts. Yeah, I guess you're right to that brings us back this idea of conversation, right? You can listen to people having a conversation, but if you understand twenty percent of it. While the other eighty percent is gone right. They're not writing down as they're saying handy. Here's what we talked about goes studied this. You know you're sitting there. Saying while I'm listening and I don't understand what's going on. And now that's just off. And those people are gone, and and I think you're right that you need to be. Much more structured with you're listening as you said, listening then going back and supplementing with. Reading Right. And figuring it out there, and so then for you I mean you. Obviously, you're super passionate about this and you've created company around link right and it's not just you. Saying I want to learn different languages. Because I'm passionate about, but I believe you're saying I believe that there's a way that people like me. Who Maybe feel like? There's resistance Emma ever actually GonNa achieve this I've tried before, but we all know when I say I've tried before. It been not really right. Most people who try to learn a language like I did it in high school. It didn't work well. There's a thousand other things we were more interested in at that point. Talked about link compared to other language learning programs. What D- What do you see as some of the key differences? Yeah, first of all I'll go back to a statement that you made and that is. Everyone learns differently, so it may not be for everyone, but the principle of link is that. There is an abundance of interesting language learning content available on the web for any language you WANNA, name French Spanish, Chinese Japanese, you name it. The goal is eventually to be able to access that material and converted into learning material. You can't do that from day one so from day one. You have this sort of I, mentioned the many stories I like many stars. We have sixty mini-stories with a lot of repetition. If you work on many stories for three months, say for European language with the Latin alphabet or read say. For like Arabic or Persian, you will have a sense that you've achieved something I understand stuff abras noise when I started. And now it's meaning okay once you have that sense that you achieve something that's tremendously motivating because a lot of people don't really believe they're going to learn. The language like is like if you're climbing a mountain and you don't really believe in your heart of hearts that you're gonna, reach the peak. How are you gonNA continue not like no, so so it's very important to give people a sense of I. Did something so I think that's where mini-stories come in I certainly have done that for. For a number of languages, but thereafter it's a long road like to get to where you can sit with your relatives now, and they're all going to be speaking, Spanish and conversations flying in five different directions, and you're sitting there. Saying see C. A. and you WanNa get to where you can actually say something, and and you don't think you're slowing down the conversation that people are actually interested in what you have to say, and don't make allowances for you. That's a long road so once you've with link. You'll get that first stage with our many stories where you've. Hey I understand now. I didn't understand I understand. But then you need to do a lot of work to get to that next stage, but the advantage would link again is you don't have to go through boring textbooks. You can go to net flicks. You can go to Youtube. You can go to you name. It looks imported whole audiobooks, and they e book that matches it you can read newspaper articles and all the time you're working on your comprehension so I think I think the advantage link is not like a textbook chapter one, two, three, four five. Five six seven, some initial stuff to get you started to give you a sense of I can do it and then almost limitless access to all of the language content. That's on the web. That's GONNA. Take you to that position, not perfect, but comfortable and I. That's my goal always and so you get to, then as you said after the mini series. Then you're then you're picking stuff. That's of interest to you so for me. It'd be like sports. Okay I. Get to read about sports or listen to sports. As opposed to listening to someone. Talking about buying skirt or something like. The train station or you know going through customs and all the stuff they put in these books right. How important then is vocab like so if I'm. Like I, haven't been in the link program. Right to go through it and so if I'm starting out and I'm like all right. I WANNA. Do Spanish here? Will there be vocab supplemented in the mini storage? Should I be doing other vocab on my own Nonni because they only vocab, you need is the vocab that comes at you in the content using so that the goal is to understand the story or an article in the newspaper about soccer whatever it might be. That's the goal so the only vocab you need that vocab. You don't need to go looking for other vogue at. The the very common vocabulary items. That's why they're high frequency people to all I WANNA learn the most common five hundred words. Don't worry about it. They will come at you. That's why because they're high frequency, the difficulty learning the lower frequency verbs as you progress, however, if you stay in the same area like sports, if you're familiar with the subject, you understand soccer, just for the sake of argument, you understand soccer, you understand the terms the names of the teams. Whatever's happening. It's all familiar to you. You're going to understand that stuff better and a lot of the vocabulary is GonNa repeat now. Now if you then move into rocket science y'all have a problem. Okay, but if you stayed in rocket science, then all of that vocabulary would repeat so the focus is not on trying to learn vocabulary in isolation. The focus has to be finding a subject area that is of interest to you, and if you stay with it, listening and reading, you will eventually acquire that vocabulary, and along the way you will acquire the most common words, and in a way we start you off with many stories with the most common herbs want wish, hold need give day. Come to think these decide even there's. All of these. Are you need them all the time? Okay, regardless of whether you're in soccer or rocket science. What would you say about conjugation and tenses and things like that? Because again I'm at the stage around like M. I actually GonNa learn this, and it's easy to get overwhelmed. Right as you mentioned. Because then you're saying, wait well. I've kind of got this verb. I know what the verb is the vocabulary for for one or need, but I don't know how to say in the past, tense or future tense. Would that be something that you would have? People worry about in the beginning, or would you say stick with comprehending? You know present tense usually is is the most common and then worry about that later. A refusal presentations is not necessarily the most common. Yeah, you're right and as soon as I, said on like a I'm wrong, so call I think that they typically introduced well today we're into the present and tomorrow. We're going to the past hands and they were going to subjunctive. Don't think about it in those terms. Just let the language come into you. once you have a sense of the language having listened to and by the way in our many stories will typically do. You know. The same story in different tenses, the same story in different persons, so you're going to hear the same story so now as easy as familiar as eating all the vocabulary, but he comes at you in different forms of the verb alright, so all of this is socking the language into. You're developing some familiarity. If at some point, you look at a conjugation table. You'll at least have some sense of what the referring to that. You've already had that experience, and so what we do like at length example you've come across a verb, you look it up. There is a conjugated dictionary. You can go on, but. Wouldn't try to remember it just to quick okay and go back to the story you stay in the story, but gradually start to notice that there is an so initially you will start to notice the different. You know all persons or tenses you'll get better and better at recognizing it 'cause you'll sense from a context. Using it as more difficult. It is more difficult and is just GonNa take time at, but but don't worry about it like and I can tell you that. Some of the Slavic languages were much more complex than than you know. Conjugation is in Spanish, and you just naturally get you get certain phrases again. We recommend linked to save phrases. You hear the phrase. It starts to come naturally if you use yesterday, it's GonNa come out past dance because you're used to hearing yesterday with a certain form of. Of the verb when I was learning German, he was only when I stopped trying to study these declenchant tables that and that I focused on listening and reading that I began to improve because our brains are not set up to to memorize kind of stuff. Our brains are set up to get used to That's how the brain works. You feed it. A bunch of experience in the brain starts to sort things out gradually, not instant not as slowly slowly. Yeah, so. Those things an occasion, Different Fund have a look that look the rules have a look at the tables and Oh. Yeah, I've seen that okay now, go back to just stay with the content, listening and reading you bring up an interesting point, obviously the overnight thing right and I'm sure you get asked this question all the time of of how long should I expect it to take me to learn language and I know there are a million variables. Like how well do you want to know? What do you want to do? What do you want cheap? Have you been able like? Is there an answer to that question for you? Is there some like I? Think it'd be this amount of hours, so let let's say again I know it's highly variable, but that's how I really want to learn Spanish I want to get to a point where I'm conversational, maybe not with five people at once, but I can sit here and talk with you. Okay fine. That's where I. I want to get to if I feel like it would be a little bit of a carrot at the end of the stick. If someone said to me, aren't you should expect you're on this many hours? So at least I could you know when I'm in the doldrums of like oh? Am I gonNA get. This is GonNa work. I can at least say all right if I put the time in I. Know I'm getting somewhere even if it might be a bit of a long road. I think in the case of Spanish where half the vocabulary is recognizable from English. you know three months of your breakthrough? A real sense of I can do this I've achieved something. and and the assumption is. You'RE GONNA. Listen forty five minutes to an hour a day. Okay. You GotTa do that and typically if I listen that much I'm gonNA. Spend another half hour reading the text because I'm curious I. Didn't understand it. What the hell are they saying? So you know that triggers that reading, but a commit to doing an hour forty five minutes when our eight which is typically dead time right? You're cleaning up or your work in order or whatever? I'm not basis I think three months gets you a breakthrough. A sense of achievement and one year gets you to where you're speaking with mistakes, but you're basically in the conversation. Yeah, okay, which I think is yeah, and and you know what then it doesn't seem so overwhelming, right? You know. I could sit there and be like, can you? Can I imagine by? In six months that I could actually be able to converse with someone in a language, and you mentioned this at the very top. Some I didn't want gloss over. When you learn, and anyway I've talked to has done this when you learn another language. I. There's something to be proud about that. You whether it be one or whether it be twenty because you have now opened up a part of your brain and challenge yourself in a way that you that you didn't have before. You know and it's kind of one of it's in my one of the bigger challenges. We can accept this as human right, and I'm saying is that thirty seven year old is speaks language, but knowing that right? In our it's a tremendous feeling. It's a feeling of of look at me. I'm flying I. Mean Look at me. Look because you start out and you don't understand. Yeah, yeah, maybe understand the artwork and three months later while. That was all nice to me and now I understand exactly what they're saying I understand. But, then then it is a long road from that point on because the thing about language learning is. It's a bit like golf. You're never quite as good as you'd like to be. saw. There's always mistakes. There's always stuff that you don't understand. There's always words you. Could you know that way, but you couldn't remember it. So that's always going to be there, but. The more you involve yourself with language speaking listening reading. Your always getting better, you're not getting worse. You're always getting better, which is not something I can say for golf by the way. His not a direct function of our argue work at it, but with languages it is the more time you put in like person I once was that language conference and there was a lady their who ran the language program at the University of San. Diego or something, and she said there's only three things in language starting the count only three things, the attitude learner, the time spent with the language, not listening to some teacher, explaining in English but time with the language and your ability to notice, so you start to develop this ability to notice things, and this comes naturally you don't. Don't have to. You have to want to notice. You have to not resist, but you start to get better at noticing. What's happening in the language and that's all matters. That's all a matter, so you got to put in the time. Have a positive attitude, and you'll just gradually gradually get better and continue to get better. Yeah, what is your? What are your thoughts on immersion? My guess is that if you can immerse yourself, yes, certainly, it's going to help them be better, but is it something that you would urge people to do if they if they could or is it like? Or Nice to have it, but not certainly not necessary. Okay, so there's different situations in Canada during the states there are immigrants who have lived in an English speaking environment for thirty years and can't speak English short. I lived in Japan for two years and can't speak JAP I mean. Could I speak some Japanese? Then? Yes, could I speak some now last than then, but yeah same thing, so there's no guarantees. That's why you have to want to. And you have to put in the time I lived in Japan, and from day one I was listening and reading to Japanese like I I it's not just I'm surrounded by Japanese. Go to the store and I managed to buy something in Japanese irs deliberately ingesting consuming Japanese so you have to make that ever. If you happen to be in the country where the language is spoken. That's an advantage you can turn on the TV. You can meet people whatever. But, if you're deliberately going to travel somewhere with the goal of improving in that language, my suggestion is prepare yourself in other words. Work on it before you go there, because if you go there and you can't do very much in the language you're GonNa squander that opportunity. You can do so much on your own for example I mentioned a year like if you work a year on your Spanish say. Some other program. Then you go to a Spanish speaking country wherever that might be, you're able to take advantage. You hit the ground running you. You can pick up a newspaper. You Watch the TV you. You're in conversation with someone. You can take advantage of it so. People think that you are if I just go there by magic. Somehow I'M GONNA. Learn not the case. You have to put the effort in and then when you go to the country, you have to be like a strong intermediate to take advantage I. must you move there? But if you're going to be there for a month, prepare yourself ahead of time in order to really take advantage because my guess is I've seen this happen to myself, right? When you're somewhere you want to. You want to enjoy it, too, and so you're going to revert if you can't speak any other language or very little, and as you mentioned uncomfortable, and it's not fun and really hard. You're just gonNA revert to what you can do, and that speaking English or whatever your native languages and muddling through in that and having fun, because you're at least what you're doing right and so I i. think that's really important, i. I think you're right if you can be an intermediate, strong intermediate, then you're going and saying all right now I can still have fun, but I can actually take advantage of this opportunity and progress pretty quickly because I have a concrete base right and there's another issue, too. Is that unfortunately for English speakers English the international language, so it's very likely that wherever you go. They will speak English fairly well and most people don't really WanNa be your teacher. Most people WANNA communicate for whatever you've come to my story, WanNa buy something or whatever it might be if I sense that let's say I'm only a Mexican Mike and says that your Spanish isn't very strong. I'll river English. So you have to be good enough, so that people will immediately come back to you in Spanish or French or. Whatever it might be right, and you have to be good enough that when they come back to you, you're you're able to come back to them right? Say as opposed to well, there's the end of the conversation. For you, then I now you're twenty languages in the you said when we say this podcast like eleven or twelve. Are you know you're really good? And then you know there's varying levels there well all levels, but I can turn them on easily. More difficult. Yeah, Gotcha. How do you decide what languages you want to learn? And is there like in your head like a hit list? Are you saying Argh once I? Hit this. I'm going to the next one, or is it a bit more fluid? Yeah fluid! You know I have a lumber business. We by wooden. Romania which we expect the East Coast, actually? At the remaining visits a mental, so I spent a couple of months learning Romanian with my wife. We decided to visit the island of Crete and Greece I learn group. I've always been interested in the Molise on all those languages, so that I'll learn Persian and Arabic You know Korean because I. Speak Chinese and Japanese so I figured, Korean would be low hanging fruit. You know, and so there is that, too. You know you gotTa understand with twenty languages if Russia and Ukrainian Polish Czech. You know those are available to you. If you know Spanish, then you can go to a talion Portuguese, and French so and those then become quite a bit easier because there's so much common vocabulary, common, grammatical structure, and so forth. Have you found certain languages to be more fun to learn for you? Not really no, because they're all different than it said sense of discovering different world like right now aerobic and Persian I mean that's quite exotic. Really and all of a sudden. Those people come alive and. I've got a tutor online. This Iranian Gal who travels all over. India very interesting and it's they're all interesting. They're all interesting. Some are more difficult. Obviously, the more similar Langley is to a language. You already know the easier is going to be obviously for sure. Have there been any languages that you've started to learn? And said I WANNA get to a certain level like let's say conversation level, and then decided, either because just decided. You didn't want to kind of gave up on Yeah I. Mean I would say that once I get past the first twelve like Korean I'm not really happy with my level in Korean, but also I got in Russian, so I just dropped the Korean similarly. Similarly Miami Romanian Greek. Haven't gotten very far either. So yeah, I mean I can afford to be a dilatot right I do and I want. If I get more motivated to learn some other language than I dropped out and they often, it's a matter of how much good accessible content three is now for my slamming languages that are just an abundance of I always want audio with text. Because then I can import the text into link, and so they were audio books, there was political stuff with transcripts, so that was tremendous now for my Persian Arabic I'm having to pay for people to transcribe, and then we try to get permission from the podcasters to put their stuff up in link. Because at least if I'm paying for shared with other members that most people never answer, you know. You ask them for permission Duke. I said I'll send you the transcript. You might help. Generate traffic your website. No answer so then that's the. It's a bit of a conundrum. Can I share this in the library now? even though I don't have permission from the PODCAST. Anything that's like the US government has propaganda channels like You Know Radio for Europe there. They're just put it up because that's propaganda right so they shouldn't be concerned about me. Using their material for anger. Starting in Persian that was available is available and Ukrainian Russian. So at any private independent podcast, or you kind of have to ask them for permission before you can I can use it for my own purposes on link I can import it from us, but I can't share it in the library without permission and Gotcha I. Hope you answer those emails. Hey, hey I. will from now on I'll make sure that everyone on our team knows. If we get something about putting, it will answer. Quest question for you about learning multiple languages at the same time said you're learning Arabic and Farsi. Do you typically try to learn one language at a time and reach a level and then move on, and if so? Is there reasoning behind that. Have you tried to do multiple ones and had it been you know? I think it's better to focus on one. But so I actually had a third one going which was Turkish. And so then I go three months on Arabic three months on Persian three months on Turkish, by the time I came back to Arabic I had forgotten so much so I, said well I'll try to do the three of them. At the same time then I decided to skip the Turkish. He was just too much, and even now like I would in a way I'd rather just stay with the one, but I don't WanNa fall too far behind, so I'm doing it. It's not ideal. The only possible said of benefit. Is that you know? There is a Tennessee you can be studying something, and and the brain likes novelty. The brain likes repetition, but the brain likes novelty so by being a day or two on Arabic and a day on. Dare to on Persian I'm. Stuff for the brain, so it doesn't get bogged down. You know you feel like you're not getting anywhere and it's always the same stuff and which is important point like it is important when you study, languages vary the kind of content and the kind of activity your if he tried to just nail down this one thing like the Clinton tables, conjugation tables, the brain is is going to start saying no like it's not going to go in. You have to keep. You have to maintain variety, so does that mean? Having two languages might introduce more variety, but I think I lose in terms of a lack of focus and I'm spending time I got X. amount of time to spend I. got an hour a day. I'm spending half of it on language and half of it on the other right, so you would definitely recommend especially for for less developed. I, start with wine. Get to a level. You're comfortable with, and then if you want to move on, get motivated, get motivated and you. You're the better you do, the more you learn, the more motivated you become. Yeah, so allow yourself to get sucked into that language. Spanish whatever it might be. Yeah, would you then you know talk about learning multiple languages for you? Is it difficult to then go back like? Are there certain languages? You said you might have your top eleven that that you could turn on. Like, do you have to go back and continually reappear? Spanish, or is that good enough? No I. Don't touch that, but there's some languages you might have to go back to. Her is kind of once. You have found. That learning languages is a bit of a of an issue of there's an issue there fitness. So, if you play three or four different sports, so you are maintaining a certain level of fitness if you then go to tennis which you haven't played in awhile. Rusty at first, but you very quickly. Get back to where your work and I had even found that when I go back to a language. That I've left I am better than I ever was very quickly. So, so I see no, that is as long as you're learning it naturally through massive input if you're trying to ace, a bunch of grammar rules and Sort of vocabulary list and Kinda put the two together in sort of an artificial learning process that you will lose those things I find very much in your sort of short term memory, but if you're organically just letting the language come in, it stays with you. It might be a little rusty, but it'll come back so there's no danger. There's no danger of losing it I. That was a great analogy. You made with the fitness and multiple sports. Sports right like there? It's only even though it's a different sport. It's only going you know you're not. You're not sitting and doing one skill like art. Yeah, I'm going to serve over and over and over and over again, but hey, by the time I I've done it before a couple years ago, and I'm staying fit by playing bass well. I could come back and yeah. Let me practice this a tiny bit. Roby back to that level. I never thought of it that way I've kind of always thought. Hey, you have X. amount of room up here in your my brain for people. Obviously it's is and and you know. Oh, my gosh is taking over part of it, and so you're gonNA. Lose this, but but yeah, that's not the case. It's not the case with physical activity. As, we all know so okay. Great analogy. I WANNA. Talk a little bit about your travel life. Could you've done a quite a bit on top learning languages, one of the reasons you did that was because of your love of travel, and obviously love culture, wanting to dive deeper into a place, which which language allows you to do? What does your travel life look like days? Are you traveling quite a bit? And is there some structure to that or you say your debutante? You can go and do whatever you please Yeah, what does it look like for you? Well again it's much like my language. Learning is whenever I feel like doing so you know typically travel I traveled quite a bit on business right now traveled by myself, but now I travel with my wife, and so I always say all. Well, first of all I learned Ukrainian so I wanNA. Go Ukraine, so I visited Ukraine twice. Okay, which is not a place. Most people go to, but is a fabulous country to visit, but we went to Crete, and then we said well. We're going all our way. We'll got Israel's visit Israel. Then we walked across the border into Jordan went to Petra. And I said you know and I dabbled in learning Hebrew and then I said to myself like there's like ten million people who speak Hebrew, there's three hundred million who big Arabic, so that's kind of triggered, my interest in Arabic partners all of that. Then my wife and visited Morocco great country visit by the way. And then you know we decided. We went to Myanmar Mar like it's all over the place Vietnam Yen Mar Machu, Pichu you know real whatever? Yeah. You're at a point in your life where you're saying wherever. Wherever only go. I'm just GONNA go. On the way to something else or Absolutely yeah and I like to go to places. Where speak the language? Yeah, which I guess I mean. Nowadays a decent amount right I mean. I I enjoyed the online Jordan. Mar didn't speak those languages. So it's not a condition, but it's. It's more comfortable if you speak the language, yeah, do you have certain places that you haven't been that that for? You are like kind of top list now. You know like a lot of people say they have this bucket list I don't have that is more like. One day I'll get up and. Speak my wife and hey, where should we go? Something comes up. You know haven't been to Africa Morocco. Egypt is a possibility you know if I had my Arabic is better I would like to go to Iran now. That I'm learning Persian. Not An ideal time to do that right now, I duNno, I enjoy Ukraine like to go back there Poland. I've never been to but yeah like Africa East, Africa. Maybe I don't know. As, it comes you. Know on your feet to the fire, right. When you were working as diplomat with the Canadian government. You're typically stationed somewhere for a couple years. Is that how it works as? Diplomat Okay Yeah. I always say the government for seven years so I sent Hong, Kong first year, a fulltime language student, learning Mandarin and then I worked sort of as a trade commissioner and going in and out of China, helping Canadian business people that do business in China then I was transferred to Japan's I spent four years there then and as trade commissioner. I got to know the forest industry, because that was my area of responsibility as a result of that a major Canadian lumber, exporting company asked me to set up the subsidiary for them in Tokyo so then I left the government, okay. A nineteen, seventy four, and then you were in Japan for a while longer than Japan for another five years. and. Then subsequently for this company, and also I sat on my own company in one, thousand, nine, hundred, seven, again with the Japanese market in mind so I had a lot of involvement with Japan, but not only because we used to source would in Europe so lots of travel to Sweden into. Central Europe as well, okay. Are there any places that you've been that? You would want to live and maybe not full-time, but but spend like a larger chunk of time being there versus maybe just traveling through. Of course you have one impression when you're traveling through. And I think if you live there, you may get a different impression, but I think that I could live in France in southern France. I live in Spain. My wife and I were recently in Catalonia. Near Barcelona like in Tarragona and places like that. But you know it's it's in the end I guess at my age. It's so much more comfortable at home. I'm familiar. Vancouver I like living in Vancouver, as a place to live yeah, the winters a bit wet, so I, come down to palm springs where the sun shines. It's comfortable, but no I could live. I think I would probably go for Europe like I want to be like Australia. New Zealand is very comfortable. Nice weather and all, but it's just too isolated and. You know where the conditions you know over the traffic is terrible, or there's pollution I don't WanNa, live in those kinds of places so so I think southern, France I like. France I studied there for three years i. like France and you mentioned your wife and going with there. What is her? Take on your language, and or is she also someone who's interested in this like we'll? She also learned some languages alongside you. Okay, so my wife, her father was Chinese and her mother Costa Rican. Okay that's that's that's an interesting mix. And so when I met her, but he went to English language school in Hong Kong, which is where I met her, and her English was so good, we always spoke English when I was studying Mandarin and the mandarin teachers sometimes would have You know our lunches or dinners or events right and so she just picked it up. She picked up Mandarin. Which is, you may not realize it is quite different than Cantonese, and she just very good, but she's not. She's not. She doesn't go around with earphones with air pods inner ear. so we had customers from France that would visit and like we turned around British Columbia and I was sitting in front with the president of the company, and she was sitting in the backseat with his wife who didn't speak. She didn't speak English Day One. They didn't say anything by day three or four, she was speaking French. She probably didn't and she admits she didn't really understand what the lady was saying, but they had caught the lively conversation, so she has a whole different approach. She don't have daughters dance. She just says something, and it's less miles and chuckles and. It all works. She's not going to study. No, she studies. She gets on Youtube and downloads, music videos, and how to make sour dough brand and and. All this other stuff you know yoga videos that we do together, but she's not gonNA. Work on the language is like I do sounds like a fastening travel companion. With you absolutely nothing fazes her like except we were in Buenos Ayres staying in an AIRBNB. And she woke up at three in the morning, and there was a cockroach in her head in her hair, and then she said Steve You're staying up to fend off the cockroaches. Some sitting there with my bad. There's another cockroach crawling up my arm like five dead gone coaches on the floor by the morning. She wasn't happy of that place. Yeah, but. You probably got some good language learning in right. There's you're dead. Tired Right, grab your IPAD start learning. So you've done a ton of travel in your life, you have a story or memory that sticks out his one of your biggest travel mishaps. You know the mishaps really roll round two things. One is travel like you know at the airport all day long to try to get out of the airport, which happened twice to us in south, America. Or eating something that was bad for the stomach, which happened to be in Mexico and in and in Tokyo, and in France and in India off of course of course time. yeah, I did nothing the I remember once. We went skiing when we were living in Japan. We went skiing, Okaido. And we were in this barrier old place like this snow banks like ten feet high you know, and so we have to take a bus out of there to the train station. And then the train was gonNA take us to Sapporo where we get on a plane fly to fly back to Tokyo. And the bus was late. There's so much snow and get as the train is getting ready to leave, and so I was with this other family, so they had three kids. We had two kids little guys. You know five years old whatever so I had my big Duffel bag in those days I just through the duffle bags on the train tracks. So that everyone can get on the train. The drink couldn't move. The Daphne's shouting at me and Blah Blah, and then I when everyone was aboard, I grabbed my duffle bags. Throw them on. The train apologized profusely, an awfully went. That's great. It's like holding the elevator opening. Stopping the train with your Duffel Bag that's awesome, and and of course in Japan you know having lived there and you've spent a ton of time there, too. You know everyone was upset, but. Let's get away with it. Otherwise, you miss her plane. Yeah, what do you have coming up in the pipeline? Then whether it be like, let people in a little secret of what maybe is the next language you're going to go after or Something with link I personally professionally travel wise. What's coming up for you? Okay? Secret that my son Mark who is the CEO of nate probably doesn't want me. Let out, but we're working on a major improvement to make it easier to find contact a content to make more similar to to Netflix's in a way the way you browse through trying to find stuff of interest and whether dea, in fact, the net Netflix's series or some other content. So I'm very excited about that. And also the the the whole lesson page there's a major sort of rewrite taking place, and of course know you can set a deadline and the. So I, don't WanNa say when that's going to be because it always ends up being more complex than you think sure I'm pretty excited about that because yeah, that's one thing I'm unlike Virgil Lion Wise you know I. Don't know any languages of India so maybe, but you. This Arabic and Persian and Turkish is GonNa keep me busy for quite a while, Carlisle, so you have to be realistic. You know we're talking a couple of years there. Yeah, and and what's cool about that is. Is Open up another large swath of the world like I'm just in my head, trying to picture your map of like languages that you speak and I mean you know you've got a large portion of it covered at this point. Vic's absolute pretty impressive so That's awesome Steve. Thanks so much for joining me today. George. I enjoyed it. Thank you. Yeah, it's just cool shining a light on what can be for a lot of people. Myself included a daunting task right of as an. Idea of like am I going to do it? And just you know you keep bringing this point of just. It should be fun, and you should be doing it for a purpose. Right like ethnic runs lies at a time. Yep. At a time. Don't try, and you know instant fluency. It Ain't gonNA happen right like I shouldn't be sitting here. Saying Hey, by the time I go to my sister's wedding in three months in Panama, I should be able to run the ceremony like no, that's not about. But I, just really appreciate it and yeah, anyone who's looking. To learn a language definitely, check out check out Lincoln and remind people one more time how they can come. Get a hold of you. See everything. You're doing fine link. What's the best place earlier? L I n G. Q dot Com. I don't know whether we have a a a discount thing arranged with you, but we'd be happy to do that. For thirty for your listeners, and in order to understand how we learn link. Some people find that my blog. The linguist on language dot com I think it is. But, but the biggest thing is the youtube channel Lingo Steve Youtube Channel. Put out two videos a week and I talk about language, learning and encourage people explain how to learn and Many people founded the inspiring, encouraging and. Teaches them that there's another way to learn other than the way they were taught at school. Definitely and I think that's the biggest hurdle. Right is trying to break that. Modality of like Oh my God. Let me go back and like learn vocab and right next to each you know it's. It's tough because if you've learned something one way, even if you didn't successfully learn like myself, you. You think that's the way to do it and. There's a lot of other ways there, so steve will link everything in the show notes. Wasser put discount on. The show notes page twos. We'll talk about that. And you guys? Yeah, you can go to link ally. N., G. Q DOT COM Lingo Steve Easy to remember. That's how. That's actually where I I went. I went lingo St. this is the Mega Youtube. Stuff is linked up from there. It's the Internet. Yeah Lingo, Steve on Youtube, which is a great name, too, so thank you Steve! I really appreciate it. a pleasure to chat with you and honestly like just a huge congrats. 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"On mikhail ballot and john john mikhail micro essien in midfield rating panelists. Welcome to your of your typical sexual will shot the We're to talk liverpool much of the for around the pearly which just like every day this games and a little bit funding part to a think maybe inspired by the was it inspired by the kind of the fronts. Football aksoy balance kind of release. This week we'll do a top. Ten listeners can say ten players in the world right now. What was the was the inspiration however the way always are so i pick straighten. I'll get us time. I was inspired by the the guardian was the top one hundred players at the end of each calendar year and had done the female muslim free. That list on saturday morning. And i thought i wonder nice Terrible terrible hosting. John how you might. I'm really good. Look forward to Tonight a lover a lover apart where we straight after a game with a super duper freshen dub. It was a really great game to You know a lot material to talk about. There's good the listeners. Rem because we just found out jack that will doesn't know who's a new west brom manager is a preamble just and wilkin. Well let's series the restaurant manager. Okay record so we'll do you think the new manager is gonna go with pep guardiola. Eighty recognized checked. No i haven't checked. Honestly shaw big. Sam isn't it. He's like michael lay. Kors comes out in december is it is is introduced. Jeez who yeah. Game over thoughts slumping so nice man. All right let's cut to the chase Live feeds tottenham. Two one is really really strong. Gains watch space if you're a liberal fan if modest from special perspective Yep if different volley being a maria led team moment but before before getting spurs angler. Pick your guys brains zits. What you're saying jacksonville nas get kind of a fresh take on a on a game that we watch together. Yeah opened up to you. Jealousy because in the game as team approach. I thought it was. I mean they're both blueprints for how both teams play. I mean liverpool. I think we'll send through the stat. About how many touches they had that had after one hundred touches after thirty five minutes which is in the third of the pitch or something like that so this starts were off the chart livable. I thought that build up play. His sensational loved which in salah in the first half because i love it when forwards dominate games. He he was he was so hungry when his buzzing around everywhere liverpool's press was absolutely excellent. And i was watching it. Popped into my default is for beano the best back in the primarily at the moment. I'm not sure. But i just thought it was absolutely superb and the goal. The incredible goals scored You know if if williams had had taken half a step forward he'd have some would have been offside as per what the beena was trying to do with the line so yet really really superb parson and super pressing. From lippo's. You'd expect andy robinson was and is probably their best player at the minute along with salah. Although any robson put shift in on ninety minutes and spurs i mean you know josie marino is there refunded defensive coach in football. It's you look it up back loin. It's eric dire janda tongue in Davies and oria. I mean who would you pick those out of our alvar choice. Because i've been reading a week about photography go wait. Have we had injury thing out of our out and and they do look so bloody similar. But the coach in that marino's invested in stop by clyde and for long-term shut liverpool out and. yeah. I thought that was really impressive. So it was an interesting game to watch But yeah definitely blueprints for both teams and their blueprints how to beat both teams. Do you think like you say it was exactly how often columbus go into the best of liverpool And the best of marino spurs team does speak georgia half tarmac. A quick walk and an assigned. What really lot is Klopp's template for how to beat that late block which really is run directly that low block ball and then how people position as almost cantilever. The ball won't touch back and forth and it wasn't it wasn't horizontal wanted. She was kind of vertical touch. Which i think is a really good way to large con. Break that that. Low block misconduct tempting amount with it will what was there what stood out. Few fatness is a bit of a role reversal The we were talking about. How are not supposed for meet kind of what she it without kind of a big emotional investment in. Hey you can kick. Boston is a fun game. Yeah we've tb up really nicely that jerry. 'cause i just really really enjoyed this game and i've been kind of because football's my granddad. Listen the minute yeah. That's just if you're a fan of a big club you watching at least two games a week trying to keep up with your own club alone. everyone else. so it's just been insane. But just i was just so much fun and i actually really enjoyed john. Ninety mccoist commented on it. Because i felt like they were just having a really good time to on it as well. Hundred seven i was just i was going to offset some point. Who were the commentators and really really enjoyed and ally mccoist. So it was only mccoy ally. Mccoist john champion. Yeah yeah really really enjoyed Imports inside and that said on should left and because she grew up watching question. This ball will berman. I came back from his voice for good while and he was lucky. So yes. I'm really lucky dude. Knowledgeable get inside enjoyed. Yuck oh my carry-on yeah just like the anti lawrenson just always think laurencin complaining about watching a world cup game brazil american on. I just remember thinking shots up. You've been paid do this. You absolutely cretin. And this was just like seeing guys really appreciate how lucky they were to be watching a great football and Speaking of enjoying watching liverpool is just so pleasurable. It's they are masterful jackson. Ready touchstone. how good. Our was robinson was really gets some trespassing figures. Maybe incredible tonight but some of his pass in one leifer. It switch rival t as jones. I think that was just like a suite of his left and just to watch a young right back to you. That is just gorgeous. And i know he's been doing that for so long ready and he's young it's crazy and then you've got jones who i just thought loop so accomplishing classy for a teenager tonight. First half especially what he was really really gets probably agree that salah jockeys at halftime that he was so controlling the game and i completely agree with that. He was the most dangerous plan live to him. I would say as the of sauce and it was quite interesting to see mana. I think he got so much of the praise. Last season and the oil was of thought salaries on become underrated again now to see him play that well today was in. That big game was really really cool and the cash jones playing in the role that he did what was really interesting. Going to spurs though came sauna. Fantastic other than the shaky head mode. I am yan because it's just an loan is just anti football and i appreciate the complexity of marinas defensive master-plan and surgery is an absolutely transformed player for he was fantastic tonight. Defensively but you watch what clubs liverpool dead and every thing technically they show just find it. Sucks the life of a game to just sit back. Deepen just let for counter. You took sauna that team in canes patentability. You've gone over. Arap really dropped team. And i think he's kind of still living on what parts bill attack in was in. The i felt the spurs indefens-. We're more for four two and there were there were times when sawn and cane so when when the liberal centrebacks had the ball of the back line that be sonnen cain sort of just on the halfway line in the circle and then two banks four behind it and it was really was soup. See congested in super organized. A felt like in the second half when they would you know. I think they fancied it. I'm burgoyne all of a sudden opportunity. We hit the post and he was more lively. They seem to be more of a the four to three one that that marino favors so much. Yeah the the first off in particular was you know. There wasn't much there from spurs and spurs a formed. And i think he's coached an organized. The place extremely well what he's done with good point on oreo with came with him into number ten An elevating son is really fascinating. But you could see the other night when they were playing. They play loss. Was it palace. Yeah can you could just see an oath say with the newcastle game. You can see that this this style of football only gets you so far when other teams set up that way as well You know and and other than the united game which was really so freakish so much afoot. Because you're not which so dreadful i'm seen spurs like really assert of dominate the ball and dominate the match. Start finish like like the english. Remember the in between two thousand and three say we want to dominate the pool in every single position on the pitch every single position. We want to win that bull and an ad wendy argument as it were. And that's i don't think spurs although yet okay just on the flip side we will say find casa hampson. Yeah fat about high school matches. Marina will never want to dominate much. Never has never never will. That's not how. I will say gods what you say will work. Living off patch. Attacking front is very very different. Approach to how cautious luck engineering attacks attacks coney being the pitch in a lot more quick fly away what i mean by just to qualify is. I think it's porches. Development of the attacking players not necessarily the attacking system but kane and sauna products of potus. Cochin and i still. I think Jack appreciate point. Oh canes or being number tannin's definitely not roy moore now by think that false nine ten row was being developed by and i think he was starting to show that ready on departure and i think he's become better at it but for me marino. Never really is coach strikers and you look at the history he has with strike is drop is the best example. Dropper was the finished article almost when he went to chelsea of he's had plastic abraham eventually all kind of finished articles. And just kind of so good that you can play them and they do that. Do that job and feel like cain and song do that. They've been developed by parts and now they do their jobs attack in wise. Joe would you take when in the league like this. Yeah of course would see as football comes. Say an expert on it and george encapsulated really lock. This team won't be loved. It loved it. Really to displace mercy reports. Tina put in place on ever happened on the belief of that you never need trophies to to confirm excellence in game lot much closer. How it is is that encapsulated Maybe porch tina who could continue to Do you believe that both believe in many many different facets and i don't say he's lucky watching watching marino spurs. It's kind of like watching waiting for locked. Heavyweight knockouts walk a little bit. Lock that lots some point. Something's going to happen and back in the end. Lao saint a friend at work today. Andrew listener went really work. The guy who went to university with young in which And he's listening to settle with with kane and song yen to have that just perfect combination. That is in the opposition's manga they don't ask improperly and they count overload get cool town. That is fun to watch our. Do actually say that. If you look at this match remissions says she radio and we were missing in ballet a nathan to massive king aspects of of or gain so far and actually look if to be as quick as you can and they can get out from dome valley with coach tina. I'm really the celso was with kind of not what we didn't know what we set lascelles awards and actually think on the moon. Maybe their job roles have been more phoned. Maybe maybe it's not as expressive other than aa. Which can worsen slow work. The ball out difficult spots but he has improved phase and he has definitely improved sexual. Ray can still had too many mistakes in it might be that riney poach been a long time manages. Well he demands that major sought from fires and in oriented look deserved that shot. And i think it was a really good tussle with money and i think that was a period in that game where oriented made a serious open stakes and i think previously or would have continued to make them. It would cost us any kind of raunchy dot ship So yeah i would take as when it won't be fascinating in an amazing and we'll be but yeah it won't be the most memorable for all play. Marla are kind of like. I remember ages ago. Joe you said you said to me this. Essentially like two houses of football and it's total football versus catenaccio. You know and they are the two stars football and it's like chatting to a chatting te- today a car. The was we're talking about. Floyd mayweather box analogy with those really boring to watch. I mean nobody's to watch mayweather to knock anyone out It was it was it was. It was very very defensive boxing but it was so technical to watch to know how he did that it was it it takes so much practice and so much drilling for such a long period and i actually you know removing the penalty of marino out the pitcher for the it colors. The compensation too much for me and just look is coaching. I think he's really really important to have him in world football because he shows the other side of the coin and he saint to these guys like Like klopp and pet. And he's been doing it for years. He did it to vancouver needed a ferguson. It's always like there is another way and it can you to what you're doing and i can. I can do this style. And it's the young to the young. However on the personality stuff. Josie looked big crock a bit cracked. Sorry in the post match interview he looked. You can see it with people when the when the you know. Know you guys have read the chimp paradox. But i'm really interested in psychology. Lots of sports we use it but it really looked. Josie chimp had taken over and he was super physically agitated though he was moving way he was stepping from side side. Look in from side to side. Repeating themselves saint five five players have fireplace much. But did you see clubs a pre-match comments about so he said how marina is one of the best coaches no no. That's wise have the success that he's had and he conned piled the pressure on him a little bit in. He's almost got to deliver with this team. He's got now. And i just thought that was really interesting because if you asked one hundred fans who is the best manager in england right now at last sif got some fans in there most of them would probably year klopp specifically at this time and it kinda ties into what waiver. They have a good relationship. Yeah mice manages deal with marina. Well i'm going to ask you. And i can t jackson a decent a lifespan on marino. Talk i was just about to say to you. Paul accounts wailer to come to you. Yeah this time last year when we're at december of thirteen marina the when you win the title this year and i just think i remember going back to that second season of united when they finished second book you scott on nearby marinas time. Yeah and i never wanted them. And i never like never liked this chelsea. Even though they were the best iterations of what marina team probably were in terms of talking football i think that his entertains and his portait teams where the biggest success stories but his chelsea team to the most formidable by far Reality pretty formidable was. It can't even remember to. That's not me questioning. Yeah that's just as me question. My in memory. Cristiano ronaldo's any school full goes in three seasons. Schoolteacher them under me. Yeah but i know which will say chelsea were machine like just bassanha fai valley defense one on michael ballot and john. Not john even micro essien in midfield just being. I think it's raining heavy metallic. Sorry john i. I remember and you can ask my friend. This are alone. When he was given the munch deny job. I was not happy and are remembering the second season we having the most success that we were having. I didn't want to win the title lot. Because i didn't. I just wanted him out because he was poisonous. And i hate and his injuries we lost and a hated what he was doing popa even in that first season and are hated the fact that dies still poisoning the club now and the relationship between popper and the club and royal has been so solid. Biwott marini oh did and i just think that tanning up of watching your club every week plan that brown football. That's not why. I'm a fan of football. That's not why. I want to see a to get. It's the opposite total football and the opposite to what clock is doing with heavy metal football. If you take that new spin on it. But i'm so glad that club one tonight and that's like a good guy won. A decent. the premier league makes pragmatists of most manages on. I think if you look at what has become properties lark. I think trump is an another level now because he's actually lot in his teachings team just to play very very many different forms. I think the pet guardiola and this is shaun. Get back to you. like marines. Football has lost spunk because essentially inhibits it in an entire team to play in a way. That isn't really the reason you fall in love playing football. Nobody really wants to I do not you know us speak it. Yeah yeah but. I'm not sure agree with that because i actually when you played a youngster. Most football is countered time. Yeah yesterday's days. You're not but it's chaotic counterattack. As opposed to a planned counterattack. The floor yet on things. Almost it's almost like gagging press in what you do as a kid. 'cause you get. She's still in the ball of each other back-and-forth back-and-forth a life ban on and plays will eventually break down and not once played football much insane way. I think eventually paps started. Football is inhibitive. Pat wants to team school. Certain ghosts Monitoring execute goes in in specific mountains. Like women's just powerless to each other very different opposite ends of the scale. And i'm both almost wanna ask block. Both styles of football. Quite inhibiting inhibiting. Yeah because it's ultimately the we've we've touched on this before. And i think bergkamp talks about in his book for it it's it's the age of yuba coach and and that the coach and systemic football is dearica. And you know the the individual brilliance supplies. Like like it's like guys like a it. You know finding them a place in in football at the minute is really difficult because actually what you want. Is you want gee-gee wine albums and guys like that that that do specific jobs specific places in and such like so but ages ago wrote this like presentation That was going to do with them with teaching staff and it was called them. How to be like louis van hall and then not be likely van hall and it's like you know if you think of van house career you just split it in heart into into two amazing hearts which is brilliant coach at the beginning that won the european cup and if great things set barcelona and also find and then he he stayed he stuck rigidly to his philosophy and the world changed. And i think you know the world has changed. I think we're seeing it with pap a no. We're not going into pep too much tonight. But you know with pat and yeah like we'll said in a marino style it. It does have a shelf life to block. I don't hate what shen football well. We'll say that doesn't seem to be doesn't seem to be out. You have that poison exist on waiting for its come waiting for maybe looked drip-fed ereli animals is happening now. He came back at the moment on with your hundred percent Lock on his previous. But but we'll say who say. I thought i'm just touched on potomac for his comments on marina Interesting because he thought he was pretty positive on him to be honest and he kind of he was very candid about feedback from players. Since we call it positive say only touched on yon tongue in the way that you touched on john. Obi accidents but marina. It's it's all about their pets house. He called isn't it. And this sort of like devotional acolytes. That would lay down and die for him. And the psychology marina invest in that is gargantuan very very few managers can do. I think klopp can do it. I think he does do it. However does it from like the jedi solid than the set aside. And you know so. But i think you saw the cracks appeared in in in as much however are definitely thinks puzzle. Finish for a really. Do i think they've been so it's not kind. I said to you guys the about never and keen so rarely and spurs talking about spurs and chelsea and the benchmark and then two game layabouts being completely dumbfounded because they have lost in thought dropped points in both of those games chelsea losing to abington and wolves and now spies joy is one old palace and then leasing tonight and then you know you like to open. I went by style games in hand and they were talking about united. They were in relegation trouble. The league is absolutely mental and is so close between like thirteenth top place. And i just you watch liverpool tonight when liverpool all of their players back in their foreign as they are so far ahead of the rest of the pack. It was disgraceful that keenan novel dismiss liberal. That way agreed. Yeah absolutely klopp has done and luxury is that a lot of people have talked about how hard it's been executed. This elite of pressing machines need to be honed in order for teams. Like muncie ellipticals. Operate as as well as they do the counterargument he's not Discount of marine ecosystems gaining traction at the moment because when it doesn't work flux cheaper kings southampton spurs chapman's But i do love the fact that his team came together a lot underpinned massive injuries and still played yogi cops from who were really really league level but thought like indecisive like massive overloaded games. Injuries haven't had time to prepare properly but all of these things. Let's start with. Look just to watch. Football is really hard moment in much inch pipe freshly and he's to get his team so like here that that was what the very best of liverpool without will. They're working parts which is really really good. Yeah to say love impact. We have the kobe. Bryant member mentality. I feel that liverpool have the a mentality where the players just the hand to wherever they need to do you. Just they'll they will just completely go for klopp that will lay down for him going for him. Play whatever position they need to and they will do the job. They need t- Yeah true all right. Listen we're going to wrap up part one and we're gonna come back full policy top ten players right now in the world see schlick. Hello j. b. jimmy in australia. I've let this wanna wash over me for twenty four before responded because mid week games go what a game what game intensity was just ferocious and i loved the dichotomy have klopp and brainiac a just wonderful really left with a lob on terms of all out press press press football pass pass is sit back do nothing but when we do something he's absolutely killer. I loved it was. It was absolutely brilliant. Brainy was completely wrong. The best tainted waiting for me shining leg case jones. I mean nineteen years old absolutely ridiculous from that boy and he is just growing and blossoming into georgia of love thing going on here and i just made whilst pitcher long way to go. Many many injuries can live stein. It well what are their rivals. Day chelsea does that take his best. I'll second earlier. And pap deceived down nothing. So yes if a fullness struggling with the same time anyone won't anyone the passionate intense tip these boys at red for me right now. Now now they ham. I love you guys go. Jimmy is yovany social her stroke and Here we will. We'll are in top ten in sports. A lot will set by the guardians. Women's top one hundred. I am so wireless prestigious venture into given our current top ten. We're gonna mix up Exciting moment so we're going to get quick. Five top tens and a man from from novel locked down. He reaches not forest. So we'll come see first night one five three that top ten and comes genetics. So i have. I'm gonna go from ten to one by can wait on this order so i've got him in psalm. Libra holland mosala kilian mbappe cristiano renaldo hurricane virgil van. Dyke kevin debroy robot. Ski lino massi arm. Sure forgotten someone you guys are going to say some one and i'm going to be an odd cost but that's the nature of apis astrum by jonathan buffet in mind jack up next make gives you talk. Desist order has is going visa. Just the top ten plays. So i just think abruptly bringing in the teams number. One on amazon boise. Zhao felix Second one is a young young prospect call. Robert levin doffs gay Number three harland. For andy roberts earned five hurricane. Number six is best mate coming song. Zahn at number seven. Bruno fernandez at number of think-i think he's the best midfielder in the world at minute k. At number nine. I just think he's the only bright spot in that phenomenal team. And he always looks like he's going to do some of belgium and say and say or seven as the last one because he's just a freak isley jerry. Jerry's crossing your head because xiao felix's in abilene. I don't think i'd be because we've got of hugo race bay area one time so this affect around with us number one marina okay. My top ten joshua came in number nine eleventh of skate number eight hour. Concert davis Messy nemecek's ibra number five some quick kerman three kimiti babies one. This has massive two thousand nineteen two thousand twenty energy. I mean maybe like well. I just think davis has been injured threes plate. We're still in twenty twenty. Yes i'll think. Just forget him. Scott with producer. He broke anyone who breaks footballer and he green. I a break tomato. Didn't look just to never play. Football properly again advocated for a long time Yeah he definitely needs to be a nice just injured. He's not my dad's yeah. He single hurriedly validated sideline camera. And yeah and he's canadian offering well how about that country and and just as just different grazie. Lock talk katie. Does that some luck like that. Also so we didn't have trend. Well ours got trying overtly. Some damage just felt like. I read this top ten spicy facing right now. I think he's having the boy. yes he is. Why is a because. He's that good because his ability is not funded. How many okay. How many how. Many gentler sister cannot katie bait just. He hasn't blown me away this week the this week to get him out. He was rubbish. This way i mean week most around twelve if he's not doing account that's part of it so yeah probably something immoral ago. It's just do quick the problem when there's twenty three games a week in the is half a season so you a red hurry thank you say. Some of our moon fernandez forty games and seventeen will be. Yeah i just think oh okay well. The decent commute live. That is so funny on the chat. When like we're live said oh level fans. I think the ninety The city was young. That's all all mates. The shops and graciousness of humility was in was in short supply. And yet you have in abundance but brunner of do a feel. Like he's brilliant is was taken as a given all the time. And maybe don't talk too much about fernandez because it's so apparent how how effective is and how good he is on the pitch. I think he is absolutely unbelievable. He's one of my favorite players of the modern era is becoming one of our favorite place in the modern era and my big question united when i watch him is how long can they keep hold of him because i think he could play for any side i think he played about buying munich side. A really do he has the temperament. He has the temperament he has the ability. He has the giant intelligent really in any any leadership. Real leader which find funny seven mason leadership transcends things like language and culture. Because you know. He's portuguese to live in england for the first time in his life and yet he's leading those guys he's the captain in everything but name Yeah i understand agree with that absolutely breaks me that harry. Maguire is the dementia captured at the minute. Because he is he represents everything. That's wrong with the current era. But i just feel like i watch log bruna fernandez where he either can go missing. In periods of a game owner now allow these players coming because its nature of being a footballer especially in. That's all talk. Enroll bossio like he can just have those games where he tries a little bit too much. Feel like the best version of braniff. Anandas is still to come. I think if he gets the right coach to really take into the next level. That's when it'll be in the top ten by would probably if i was say trying to fix boss lerner the minute i would probably sign up to ten. Plays a mile west of bringing fernandez. You have the number paying welcome. Follow their back and watch it was circuit so i just think the ability about house is absolutely more rivaled life now because he doesn't have to be an think bass baby shame and that's the product of psg a hybrid of really hate the term farmers league. Because there's some amazing players in france league with leo dancing. Really cool things. But i don't think they have to be at their best all the time and if not translates and say. I'm not sure. I think to close a good coach. But i'm not sure he's the one that's getting the best out of that team. And i now. Philip might go there. I feel like it could be the arena. Place for opens up for. That seems logical. He's been average of a while. Now and i think he could be amazing flat team but at the same time. Are you going to do it when you win in the late by twenty points you just have to say that's an i. I'd love to see him at round dirt or basa. We have an interest me constantly. Work dortmund for parche. I think on enough you talking you to come out. And by just none and i think that's quite an interesting saudis light. Less less. divest digress. Rather i think i just feel markelle. Razor is the logical step dormant knowledgeable leak. I think he's a really really good coach and plays styled at dortmund play. Parts does a little bit as well. I think you'd have to come in. And like i said to you. I feel like this is his chance to take a big team and then go on and win trophies and there are lots of silly fans the say the opposite to what he said. I think that he has to win. Trophies in order to validate himself an i feel like if he goes to dortmund is still very hard to win trophies. Another squad but that very young. And i'm sure they're going to win trophies over by meaning side. Maybe even the leipzig side by advocating this season cripes while wonder wheel is is almost think that might well be parties model of of of working with young crops of plays. It might not be he might. He might be really adaptable to to work with really established group of players but if he goes to real madrid he he he is a manager who has one nothing he has to instruct such ramdas Kareem ben zuma plays you of one leaks things With a whole totally different star of management on a personal level. I just don't think it'd be as simple as drop into real madrid and also think madrid are the least stable and lease impressive squad like that. They have been for a long time and same with with barcelona identity elegance bosnia possess on your links. But you know a real madrid have the financial backing that that they have previously them. No like maybe dortmund is a language barrier. Maybe a look more initiative that perhaps winter take out hung percent agree but i don't think he doesn't self that he wins champions league or the pundits lita which is going to be really difficult than dozen thought many favors by taking on the development team and developing the playing lead players. Because so much is expected of all of them already. They are already like darlings of football and they say they're ready approach team without him during their and making them approach team. So i feel like this. He's got to go there and do something quite special whereas out her job dot kind of an iffy takes it. If he doesn't say dormant doesn't work then he's under various boa and he's looking at what's time job. He's not busy because he didn't play on. Just talk football. Wasn't support watch coach. Has this exciting football coach. Exciting team i don't think and he's coach village. He left. simul is one that bo club iron on that intelligent and they were only judging. Non-european chose the the. I think the club the clips that protein would interact with. Do you think is just chicago to that. But that in some of the larger clubs manchester united boss celona realm betrayed those mice humbly uncharitable and eventers that that manages quite unremarkable. And they're not innovative. And what you've got standing on the sidelines. This really innovative interest in managing that. You know this this feeling. I agree with you. We'll i think it's like you know. Go into dortmund is is like going to spur the spurs of england. That this the top four clubs this you know a great tradition and attacking football and whatnot. Really what you want to see. Is this guy in bake club. Like united bossa rayo. Psat's while i agree. I don't think teachers is great. I think he's i think he's good. So yeah we want him back in football. Let's get this guy back in football. Let's get a big club unless get out in the champions league. You know the two legs and seeing what's up man. Reckon reason that he can get jobs Like thinking of united. This aluminum confirmed united conspiracy. Theory i think that the probably would and the glazers a thinking if pot goes to the united he is going to have complete fan buying and play here backing because how good he is. Well can i ask. Do you want him spurs. Were really like the same as or not. You would really look at unitive giant our doughnut nut to say you know. I don't think think one hundred percent asti whether you were. That's odd about the great honestly. Love it sleep happy every single night christmas dream except that be great. Let's descend over on that. Do like the shout of bruno and some saunas got go into a top ten for place right now is the. There's more clinical player. Just pray at the moment love len in holland and a book by nature on what she more or person primarily football but i just love the way that go against awesome the other day for some guy who is just the height of confidence and also to go tonight actually the clinical nature almost indifferent emotional spheres like they will have known like you guys are not going to get many chances when you get chances you need to finish. You're going to get two or three tops. And it was. It was like the golden everywhere. Miss wasn't it because the other would just showing a replay of of of what just happened. And i think he's going to grow and you sang about reno of really one halong song movie spurs lot. I would love same us. I'm really excited is next stage. Qb spurs football by his. How is already darren. Standard are no racism. I don't either. i think he could. We could fit into that nicotine conscious slip into any share on. We can kind of function not talk about the boss. Needed like welcome as players right now. Imagine lynagh master-plan bulls free for ten minutes. I'm being a bit shady saying i'm katie beers in them degree adjust. It's almost like just because the bullets. Maybe as a spectacle to the darby day. I felt like yeah. It wasn't his fault he was doing everything. And there's there's only one married couple team totally and i feel more on his counterparts than him. I studies. it's not your fault. It's not your fault it's not your where dot with. Aba inaugural baramulla moment. Where hockey fights cenci ripping out. Well karma bit was for the life of me but they said they said bernard urine. You're you're any forties now. What's the difference you find any forty s and fight any thirties. And he said well. Malta is a used to get over five. Am every day portrayed. What you do now. We set up at six. Am and like like they're just aliens. These people like slats on our next hour still uses to save a mason stuff. Yeah and and and actually just one thing about latin. He said this amazing thing about young players about how the responsibility a carmen. So many powerful responsibility the older players have to young players and how they should be showing them. We shouldn't put too much pressure on them and the The older players should be setting the standard and putting the arm around them at the club and school in them. And i love that. It's very it's very old fashioned. But i think as great you know in life you think well what what what you want to change what you wanna keep which one throughout to anarchy and it definitely wanna keep that he did a great interview with steve kauffman complete When he was in just joined allegation sadness but by when did latin special Any spoke very much not mode. Let him and papa really really hit off when he was you know it just to hear him talk in that Lovely guy really lots. Just just enjoy listening to him. Because he speaks he's got lawful care. Love the game. So far for a similan tangos by just an absolute joy on the flipside. I in in syria As as we debate. Leo massey's inclusion in the current kind of top ten. Because think this is kind of appropriate. Do we put cr seven in because every day we've got in on the basis if if you do win it maybe i'm just a bit short repair but so much is owed to run on It was a masterstroke on an just an absolute must strike because he is that just elite and you can rely on him because he's so professionals. Not a maverick is not mckenzie's in lifestyle rankings. Just so so so focus. That is just going in a few. When i think they need to say big big interest cristiano renaldo. It's interesting that you think's a mass destruct- where there was a tax fraud case. Now here's nate. Mccay allegedly day. Do he's been he's been found guilty her just interesting but i do think he's still a top ten footballer given that i said that like a a really Heartache these aren't you still talk to ellen brought harlan because when when a write his name down a heard the noise of of the goal by a score against the just a beautiful thing and twitter about lock as to the front. like how. good. How i'm the by in kana. Came out they can't wait with so much pain and he said he said something like yet holland's fantastic but we don't need him right now because we've got lira and it was like we need right. Now we're right we'll come and get you. Just add. timelines seem to tally up perfectly. Like give it one or two years and then it be and now i all laces could also see madrid. I don't know why a seem as midget strike. It's yes just just kind of like you know but seem real it but what what. An awful sort of like scouting network are an approach that these big clips have. It's like you know buying a bercy. Don't go out and find these incredible sort of semi ready prospects young things and the polish them up. And then you know if you also the minute. He walked to be in the market for strike. As soon you know. And it's like how much harlem can the costumes going to cost like three figures. You know definitely your hundred million hundred and twenty million hundred and fifty million only coach in in order you could see them. A red bull t. Sees is back and forth. This is this is the guy because he's clearly goodness for those sites so it's just a really bizarre approach. These clip have is like okay. We'll wait for like a a doorman spurs grabbed these guys. And then you just pay triple or quadruple. Here's something that's going to break. Oh any twenty twenty two. He's got sixty eight million and not like a non-euro all may be to richmond. We richmond those pale horribly. Go from tasted fingers. I've never seen this. Three percent pork broncos. So far we have bruno fernandes. Half saami how kevin de ebro crystalline rinaldo. Harland's think without question the stars of one of of tonight but kane and salazar definitely starts. Nobody's passing ability which is massively underrated of his. Her aso can often missed out. And canaan this development all of this kind of new role that that is found think he's had two hundred look into self to become because fitness voice to play was but we got any objections to To those from and anything i will object about. I will leave your air forever. If lynn is not in this copson you'll make an argument. The again right now if i talked to anyone and they don't if they say that cristiano renaldo is messy instantly. Just misjudge everything about molly says I wanna meet people say like remote. They say no i think so. We'd never going to be friends. And that's what is what maybe with leeann messy and the thing is you. Don't i guess for me. Messy i mean like messy is almost sits in on a different table tool these guys if if asked me to be honest with you and he's always in a different realm It's just very weird. Seeing messy go through this. Horrific maelstrom of kloof politics and the poor performance of Boss alona an associate in great football with messy at the minute soon. Say top ten right now if these guys but yeah i mean if you say well okay chaplain. He's the best player in the world. I'd say what's leo messy so we can become getting term but he's a top apartments as on on tape for you to leave saying it'd be awful. That's the one clause in my contract. Two weeks threatened to leave if we didn't swell of just scion becoming clogged up there. What it was. I'm going to have to be missing next week to find out the wheels demands Nice listening liam ethicon tops Yet just something. We want to dive into a hug. Enjoyed brief for ryan's where Ports team and and and yeah we love on against just not last night with football main in twenty twenty. And i do think the deluge of football at the minute is making it really hard to kind of assess and quantify demeaning of games and and the impact and what it means for the rest the mid at the the the league and whatnot and i'm kind of a of jones in for one of those teams in the top of the table. The top six just gonna run a full meal little bit and kind of you know maybe like head out into the front and so there's a little bit of i dunno certainty. Even as i'm saying that i'm like why do i. Why do i even care about that. You know so I'd like to settle down a bit not yet. It's just a bit crazy. What would you like well. We're not going to definitely give it. You're gonna what would happen. David moyes when the primarily that would know nice just not westbound monday. Always been around western. Montana am you cannot say for. It was really really nice to see him fans back at anfield way. And especially this week. You'll brenner was liverpool. Fan stunk. You'll never walk alone. Chris krok go our listeners. Did you have that teed up all night you don't get in an absolutely honesty street now. Someone set that jack this week and i keep forgetting every week and that's where i live plants and i am finding that on top of monday. Gotta get it in the our my head stuff stuff. Our listeners thanks as always for tune in to To reviews but more importantly an passable football fan and Yeah just share share. The love of your. We'll be back next week for corey. Christus racial Jackson says always made absolute smashing. Yeah pleasure under will lovely lovely at one can might We are to sunday's demand said on the sentence. Oxygen you on his books guys all right. Listen you to at dot. Uk on twitter on insta facebook You're going to get to those gives you talk. Ten gives you code top ten and make sure massey's because just delay in accordance with the will scriptures catch be jaffna your summing up miss dibaba and if we could spare the jury your usual zambo were your honor. Ladies and gentlemen of the court the members of the jury for it is you who form the backbone of the judicial process. Yes i would like to make your deepest pleasure to see. Hit to quit mr kevin daniel. I have presented. His mitigation both the circumstance and character. Of course mini-bus-driver hits a member of the public with his vehicle. A great deal of scrutiny must be to their that the victim and i use the term reluctancy heavily intoxicated when he loved sideways. In front of mr daniels. Buff is patently immaterial. The standards expected over bus driver are indeed extremely high. And we heard from many of mr daniels regular customer that he practices the highest standards of regard for his passengers. He's breaking his death. His cornering accurate and easy even those standing passengers. He delivered a smooth and pleasant jetty. Twenty years he has not so much caused on onboard stumble by even the frailer of his travel. We have heard by a single passenger among the lead june of those who turned up in his support and indeed the silent majority who scarce stoic. Wayne which has gonna values business such as his quiet professional. Bruce do ball ball please. You're yet a single person who happened to be seated near to the front of the bath. And who was in ratted own the with his fellow traveller said and i quote when i said to my make i think is good for the game. I noticed the dry. His eyes bozon stool then. He took a look back at me as if to say who said that. Well this was also that moment. When impact was made now laws mr daniel reacting to this alleged conversation all was the witness needy interpreting saddam's behavior. I the meaner expecting to and here. I use mr daniels town. Get a rise out of me they gentleman. We'll see intentionally attempting to go. The driver as he had on numerous previous occasions by suggesting the new hand bowl rule was a distinct improvement to the game in need the previous day he had suggested and again i quote that the top sixteen should splinter from the pram to form a european stupor league in flatter tree and absurd language of this nature was used to upset contract. This the ball colmey for new going. I think the package that we often had something to do it. It's one of the judges pet projects. Someone has an alcohol substance misuse problem. He would often look favorably on that person. Actively seeking to overcome that issue in your case attendance at a support group for football obsessed pundits. Son asarco friend is. I'm afraid known negotiable. To be honest. Simone on needed me job off on some ads that the movement have lockdown in shughart on the frontier. Only between me. And the missus what worries me. 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Oh yeah. I guess we should mention that. There's no video of today's show. But i'm saying clothing. The ultimate rib megan had some Some folks come over and help us get ready for christmas eve today and i've got Outside of that door houseful of people helping do south. So i'm sort of trapped in here now sands shirt you're naked breaches. oh i can't see the richest. Do you wanna see the bridges not really. I'm having a hard enough time with my is seeing what i'm seeing. Here's my best. John santa impression. You're ready get them. No way needs to see that the stop the warming now. They do not but what they do need to know is our little pop quiz deodorant. Your home sure. You and i bet it can be hard work. You know what easy though bundling policies with kyko gyco makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Its gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geiko dot com and they're bringing you this very special bonus bruce we're gonna get in trouble with this one. Well you will. it's hashtag. Ask bruce anything and when we posted this. Gosh i don't know like ten days ago. We got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of responses. There's no way we'll get to them all. But i do think we should have some fun with s. Are you in the mood to have some fun. Today i've i've let's do for in your man your money man who we put over all the time here on the show wants to know why was dick slater's wb ephron and eighty seven so short. How in the fuck am i supposed to know that lenny. Lennie of all people should know that. I don't know that because dickey was gone by the time. I got there but you heard about it. You talked about it. I'm sure it came up. Dick slater bill's been very long there. He was everywhere else though. Why not in the wwf. Well i just don't think that the dick was a straightforward kind of guy. He was eight. You know he he. Just i don't have i don't know how to explain. It was a great worker it bought bought. Dick was a top guy but he was never a top top guy. You know what i mean like. I don't know that dickie ever came in and said territory on fire right. Dicky was great to have on the car. It he would deliver. He was believable of all that in dick even booked for a little bit. But i don't know that his his booking tenures anywhere rin thing to really write home about Terrific talent terrific guy. Weird could be a little. You know off when people attribute that to the horrible car accident they hadn't from san antonio to houston that night then. Dick was never the same after that. But i think that dickie got into it and dickey was so used to be index later that he didn't know how to be the rebel and the rebel really was just dick slater so it it never really connected with and dick never really connected with. Wwe it's time. I stood another one here. Also from our man lenny bach and he brought the noise with some good ones. Whatever's memories of livewire was a great concept ahead of its time but the original format didn't seem to last very long and bruce. I'm with lenny. This was appointment. Tv for me. I love the idea that it was live and it was interactive. And you got to see stuff. You might not normally see paul heyman calling in wants. Is bruce from connecticut. A jim ross. Just going off on motherfuckers. Vince russo. Getting tv time for the first time and who could forget sunny looking better than ever. Okay tell us about livewire. Livewire was way ahead of its time. Livewire was live on saturday mornings. Where we had open line was was talk radio on. Tv was the concept behind. It was to be able to allow our audience to call in and ask questions. Make comments in the audience was going to drive that. Show i in the beginning. I don't know that everybody knew exactly how to handle some of the calls that we would get in. Some people wanted to be you know. Wanna be that smart guy that they let you know that they knew and it was. It was different and it was ahead of. Its time if you were to ask me. I think that It was something that had come a little bit later is the internet era hid really taken whole. Maybe it might have been a completely show. But i liked it because of its just uncertainty in never knew what the hell you're gonna get and putting j. o. Ara on there was one of those situations where you put jamil on there to actually field some of those and hopefully massage some of the asshole in Comments instead you got jared a limitation buddy guy more go smart ashra var. She you want blake haha little. Jr they okay. Hey great thanks for college benjamin. He got allegedly buddies know that. Hey benjamin's clue he says some smart ass. Jr wants to go back to you and it was just got to be that in. Ecorse vince russo. Who preached. nothing's real. We gotta be real. And we've got to be honest with our fans and in their face comes on a total gimmick in vic van umbro and i thought that the big medicare is like okay. You're saying you want to be real. Everybody knows that Zippy in skippy. Your tom and chris. But you're going on is i'm vic van nam. The fucking sheds. I think that we we missed. We missed on that low bit is. I'm going off to the left. See that what i did there. I like the it says hi until the right laughter that means but john alba wants to know what does bruce. Belief pat mcafee. Ceiling is as a talent. Could we ever see him working consistently enough to be a top guy. I don't i don't know that much about pat. I actually listened to pat. If you're interested in another great podcasts. I think mcafee is is tremendous But who knows. and that's that's up to pat. That's question that the people would have to ask pat as far as what he really wants to do but highly entertaining that jeff rights. Was there ever any worry from vince. Mcmahon the undertaker might be wooed away. By w w or is he confident that take your was a wwe lifer. I was confident that take her. Was wwi for and i believe that this was confident. That taker was wwe. Lifer it just was timing. And i don't know that. Wcw would know what the hell to do with him. Even you know you take him out of the gimmick and you go back to me mark. And i truly believe that. The undertaker was such a strong character. That you want it you. Don't you wanted to keep that aura. You wanted to keep the mystery and you wanted to make sure that that's what the audience wanted. And that. I think that's what everybody want and is just kind of goes back to the old saying that whether you ran around geico will make it easy to bundle home and car insurance and all you gotta do is go to geico dot com today. 'cause they make it easy and you know that i like easy and i was doing gyco before. Geico was cool. Lots of different questions here from jeff. He's really bring in the noise with some good questions. This is one that. I know you're going to get fired up about but i do want to ask vince. His thoughts on dave meltzer as he just considered white noise. The he ignores at this point. Oh vince completely ignores meltzer meltzer's kind like a You know a pimple on a nats ass. what's your favorite. What's your favorite eddie guerrero match in. Wwe well it's the. They're my favorites for different reasons. And i go back. And i look at some of the stuff that eddie guerrero did with. Jbl was so much fun and told such great stories that you could pretty much pick any match out of that but from there i think that when you look at the Ramos stereo on your poppy. That shit was just great. And again you can pick any match with rey. Mysterio and eddie inside holy shit but the those two stories with any were to my favorites talent. Have to run it by vince. If they wanna get tattooed a mainly wondering what the protocol was for someone like the undertaker as differ from talent to talent know it differs from time to time. And here's the issue with not so much permission or whatever but when you have licenses out there for certain things in its for a certain look like figures video games all that right and you've got an a six month lead on some of that stuff and then it comes out. You look completely different than that particular. Item may may or may not sell. Because they're for the character. They see on tv every week that character changes. Then you know. maybe. I want this whole now. You still have to sell out and sell through the original item. That was made so. That's the reason there's a lot more to than. Oh i just don't want them to get a tattoo were want you change your hair color or your haircut A lot goes into it. It's it's a business decision. Let's do another one here about mount rushmore. Ephron wants to know who were your other. Mount rushmore of ring announcers. He thinks it's a given that howard finkel ankles there. I would agree. So think is one. We got three other empty spots. Who makes the cut of rain announcers holy shit I've got a soft spot for gary. Michael caputo okay. Good for you like. We opened up to other sports. I like jimmy lennon. Oh yelling out other sports than a buffers in there. Jimmy lennon is in there Jimmy energy is also in there if we stick to wrestling for their some of for give me some other wrestling ones anybody ever other than me. You think you belong. It's howard finkel bruce richard. Yeah three tom. You got three black belt. Fame's right yes. As a matter of fact i do comrade. Do you have any other wrestling announcer. You've ever liked and go ever like a all right all right by his. Okay let me let me give you my philosophy on. i'd love love. Howard finkel to death. And i think that he was probably the greatest ring announcer of all time. The ring announcer is there to get talent over as well and are there to announce what's coming up. They're not there to be a gimmick into get themselves over. And i feel a lot of times. The ring announcers trying to get themselves over to me. Great ring announcer someone who gets themself over by getting other talent over. That's why i think howard finkel was so good. Howard became a gimmick. But that's why howard was so good in worry about you. Know is how he introduced certain people he did everybody. The same was excellent jer. Landry wants to know on the flare thirty for thirty flare said. His potential wrestlemainia match with hogan wasn't going to happen because the two weren't clicking on the house shows is that correct or did their egos get in the way. Well a. I wasn't there so i can't. I can't answer that from that standpoint. However i do know that also the house shows weren't drawing with hogan flair on top and from all reports Hull can rick did not click in the ring and it was something that people just weren't that interested in it. Kinda goes to the it stamps. That a lot of times when someone would come in from wcw and you think okay. Hey will this guy's really over wcw to the wwe audience they. They weren't over that he didn't mean as much as they met where they came from and they had to get over here. Rick came in right on top and rick came in kind of positioned as equal in the audience. Wasn't buying it. This is going to be a tough one for you for the who gonna get in trouble. No matter what we say jason rossi wants to know one of the following has to go and never existed the other three remain. Bitcoin shawn michaels bret. Hart the rock stone cold. Ooh wow one's gone forever. The other three exist already. Know what you're gonna say you're thinking about it. But i know where you wound up right. Yeah of course needs that you can't do it without rock and stone cold. The charm michaels had that second act makes it tough to imagine adam. But you know brent Brett was a catalyst in many ways to pretty much except Hate calling brett small one small but in comparison to the monsters of the day you know bret one the biggest guy world one what the audience was used to so you. Brett was instrumental in that way. But if one's gotta go read scout ago here's a here's a little easier. One papa's chick fillet chicken sandwich. Well chick-fil-a got no pickle. You why why because you can't get a fillet spicy chicken sandwich without will make spicy as the sauce. I put on it. They won't do spicy chicken on their chicken sandwich. I don't do that either. Are you saying you said chick-fil-a but humane papa's. I meant papa won't do there without that spicy mayo stuff all there and they should just do a spicy chicken breasts and then they would probably be better than chick-fil-a and then the battle comes down to is chick fillet end or is it wendy spicy chicken sandwich because wendy spicy chicken sandwich should not be sneezed at i agree. It's it's on the list. A combination of it with a frosty is hard to beat sorta like the combination of bundling your home and auto insurance geico makes it easy to bundle both of those geiko dot com and get a quote. Today josh peak. Coon wants to know any memories of the sugar. Ray la donned our scripture name up boxing. There you go Vincent man promoted this and eighty eight and it was all over summer slam that year with an interview with sugar ray where he called me gene. Jim and he called it seeks lamb. What are you remember of Vince foray into boxing promoting here and yang. Well it was. It was a short-lived deal. It was an opportunity to help sugar. Ray leonard out and cherie had this fight with donny law. That was going to take place in. We promoted it and we were going to help distribute it on pay per view so it was a business arrangement. But i don't know. I don't know how serious that vince was looking at getting into boxing. Don't think that he really had any desire to get into that. At the time It was just a good business decision that was presented that we did we did. I gotta go to sugar race. Training camp in do a prime time wrestling with mangena not mean gene with the gene gorilla. Monsoon and bobby heenan had a blast. There and i guess i should post those. Pictures are problems to the big show. Andrei and al post pictures of me with sugar ray leonard. It's training camp when we did the prime time there. But that was a lot of fun. Up at the caesar's poconos you love the poconos. Don't she poconos refund. Hey what's that like the poconos. I want the one time i saw it. I'm done scratched off the list. Jason wants to know which creative direction did. You really have to sail to talent. Who was questioning the idea. But a wound up being one of the best things they ever did. God probably a lot of those here. Here's my favorite argument. Jerry lawler gave this to me so must must credit jerry with it because it would always astonished me. You'd like something out an entire story. Hey we're kennedy this then we're gonna pay it off here. We're gonna do this there and win the taliban look at you and say t really think that's going to work now. Think about that for yes. That's going to work. You know what. No i'm gonna waste all this television time. Which is very valuable to do this. And i want to waste it for several weeks. Because i don't think it's going to work. I think it's gonna suck and we will go to this pay per view and we'll get to put it on top because we really think it sucks. Sometimes yeah the thing just a little bit you know before you ask a question like that so there there are a few you know going back. And you know. Steve austin and kurt angle. I think in in the beginning was a little bit like god. Is kurt ready for this right. And the even even the stuff with kurt. Backstage with stayed with neither could work. It's like You know i mean. Is this going to work in some of the best shit we ever did. I think that there's a long list of probably eddie guerrero. Bean dominance father. How many people really thought. That would work and i thought it were great. Rajiv wants to know. What are the prichard family traditions during the christmas holiday. Well let's see we open presents. Okay so i really don't any you know when i was in texas. We always had the big christmas party. And christmas party was for members of the family unofficial members of the family and friends to come over and just have a few drinks and eat a bunch of food and just get together on christmas eve and that kind of that kind of went away. Obviously when when. I moved back to connecticut but that was always a shitload fun. And yon have the homeless people. That didn't have a lot of family. They would always come over and just kind of hang out and and do that and that was. That was one of the best ones that we had Christmas morning you just get up and you open your presents. I don't do that shit. Christmas eve yoga presents on christmas morning. Have eggs benedict and then you just chill the fuck out for the rest of the time. I was the early when my kids younger now. This was a lot of fun and unfortunately it doesn't last long enough when my kids were younger christmas party. I had santa claus there every year. And so all kids from in the neighborhood will all come over to sit on santa's lap because mr pritchard had a at an endless santa in santa would come to my house and he would spend an hour and he talked all little children in the neighborhood all their requests and everything then he had go and deliver presents to the wrestle bastards until may go home go to bed. Some not come to your house. I like the santa shit i kinda. I kinda stole that. One from vince did it on christmas. Eve of all the roles we've had in wrestling. One has been your favorite. and why. here's my favorite. My favorite is creating behind the scenes. In why because it's one thing. I'd love performing. I absolutely love performing. However when you get work behind the scenes you get to be everybody and it's not just portraying one character you get to create you get to help bring the live several characters so for me. That's the biggest kick in. That's what i love. And i look forward to live television. I absolutely love live tv. This is a fun that we haven't really talked about before. And i want you to really think about it before you answer. What's been the most rewarding thing about working in the wrestling business. Take a. don't be funny witty but real probably He'll this is gonna sound hokey but but through the wrestling business a actually met while met my wife and then able to have my kids and have my family and be able to do a lot of things that you never a million years would imagine that you'd be able to do. It's funny when your kid. How you how you dream in what you dream about. As a child. I wanted to be a wrestler and i wanted to be the world champion and a wanted to wrestle madison square garden in the main event. And then i wanted to be a promoter in houston in retire I got by the time. I was twenty eight at all remain invented madison square garden and i had promoted houston Got fired so that was kinda like retiring. But but i already. I done those things such a young age. That i realized. Wow there's so much more to do so when you look at the opportunity to travel and see things that you wouldn't have seen to meet people that you wouldn't have ever been able to meet to be able to stand in a parking lot with rick. Rubin who is a musical genius in have rick is excited to talk to you as you are talking to him and there's absolutely no way that it could have been as excited to talk to me as i was talked to rick but just here's this genius in the music industry that has done so much that just like yeah man talking to me and asking me questions and that those moments are surreal in would've ever been able to experience any of that Had it not been for this business. I wouldn't be able to own my home and you know if you do own a rent your own home. I mean a lot of us. Do you know it can be hard work but tell you what's easy and that's bundling your policies with gyco kaz gyco makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy it's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could say. It's geico easy. Visit geiko dot com. Today that's geiko dot com and be cool like me. Because i doing that when i first came up here and i got all my insurance through guy go in i. I was able to insure you know my home. My car my watch A lot of things. And so yeah. That's what i'm grateful for. Well i know we don't talk about current stuff but this is too good. Not the ask mayhem. Wants to know what was an ass. Chewing like from vents back in the day compared to an ass chewing from vents. Like now Different you know. I think everybody grows up. And i think that everyone matures in you as you get older. You get a little bit wiser and you mellow out a little bit. And i'm not saying that. Vince is really mellowed. Out that much. He's as intense as he ever was but his lip handle things a lot differently than we did. When we were younger. You learned you evolved you evolve and learn yes Adam for bama wants to know how satisfied were you with the undertaker's final farewell. Obviously with cove being the the case. That's a tough thing you know in a different time a different place. Maybe you could have done something differently. But i dug it. I thought the hologram. You guys did with pallbearer pallbearer again. We're not supposed to talk about current stuff but this is a sendoff so maybe it's different. You shut me down. If you need to a hologram thing was bad ass great. I loved it. I thought it was appropriate for again time time. Different times different places in different things but that character was iconic in that character deserved that spotlight and bug odd. You know you could have done an entire week of for that career. He could do entire year. That career So i was pleased. This is a fun question. And i'm going to tag onto the dj dj iron. Mike wants to know. Did pat patterson ever consider entering a royal rumble being the creator of the rumble match. It seems appropriate. The stooges would have fit right into the nineteen ninety nine installment it was loaded with gaga patterson and brisco would have been perfect in hindsight. I wish that would've happened to. Because it is kind of weird that he created it and was never in it and it would v o we use. We used to joke about it. All the time and get later years i think pats jokey mccain well why the fuck and i go to rumble royal win the motherfucker. Fuck you So it had been discussed but when it came right down to it went from okay. We could do this to pat mesa fucking doing that. Fuck you on the taking of bob over the top. If i win maybe had a base. Here's one big jake. Black wants to know. Who do you think was a better worker in eighty nine mr perfect savage They were both great randy. I think randy in some ways kinda gets a bad rap but you know. I was talking to somebody recently about win win. Did it get to the point. Where guys had to talk about their entire match and have every single second of their match laid out and ahead before they went out and those already sabotage. Did that randy savage didn't always do that. And i've heard stories about wrestlemainia. Three and ricky steamboat and savage savage warning. The have everything down and maybe he did for that match. It wasn't there. But i know in later years i worked with randy that we just go out and have fun so Randy was a great worker in probably in nineteen eighty. Nine rainy was on top of the world and not many people could touch him. not saying. I'm not discounting mr perfect either. Because perfect was insane. Was jonathan karl. Think better years were like ninety ninety one ninety one staff. You can't be jake. Wants to know was jonah razzies radio show from long island ever on the wwe radar old school. Ask right there. I like it. I can't i can tell you that. I've never never heard it in or ever listened to i've heard of it And i'm sure that you know the faint probably listened to it and everything. But i i don't know that I don't know that i ever listened to it. Let's give some context. Some of our listeners may not know who john ramsey is or was. He's still around by the way. Does a podcast. These days got a patriot on and all that but once upon a time in radio show that was in new york. And i think he even expanded to different markets and he talked sort of Inside wrestling but he had big time guests all the time and it was a pretty popular show especially in the area eventually he created. I believe the wrestling convention. And he had like the first ever wrestling convention and he had a whole cast of stars including rick layer so it was a really cool Thing for fans in the northeast to follow his show support his show and do the conventions and we star cast a lot of people said oh colorado trying to be like the new john ramsey and i myself did know a ton about jonathan. Tom but i was fortunate enough to meet him and have lunch with him and great big baseball fan. Absolutely less professional wrestling and It's kind of cool to know that he was doing that stuff way back before. It was cool in the late eighties. Yeah and. And i like i know the name but i couldn't tell you much about the show at all. Don't think that. I've heard it just says what's the one thing you miss the most about. Not being in the wwe bubble sleep pool sleep. Sleep my pool. Being tam and time to you know i used to love to go on my hour hour and a half long bike rides. Yeah and i miss that i miss. I miss Just being out in the sun in going on long bike rides in get a bunch of skin cancer. I don't have skin cancer people And even when. I was in son all the time. I used to get checked out all the time. So knock on wood. I didn't didn't have it so your beautiful backyard in houston. Your was a big part of your life. i mean when the weather was passable. You got in an everyday right. Yes i would be in the pool everyday possibly could not because the pool was in between my office in the house so sometimes you just be going between the. Let's dip fash. And i would literally walk down the stairs on the office side and then walk out on the house side and just Just to get wet and off sometimes just just to get in i. I wish you wouldn't have sold the house. Wish would hung onto it because that was cool house. I never got to visit it but all the pictures and you know the idea that you had an attached office that will mean that how i know you hate it but my gosh. It seemed like it was laid out really really well. Yeah well my family liked it because the office was separate. Yeah so i would disappear over there and they didn't have to deal with me at all. That's pretty nice and you had that fridge out in the garage and beers go missing. God it yeah shit like that good always but the best part was i always had like one of those big queen size mattresses that would be in the pool floaty and just i would go out there and just hang out for an hour or so on their get my son and then wake up and go jump on a bike and just go ride for hour hour and a half and my little path when you said to me. You're the zillow linked your new beautiful home in connecticut. I i look through the pictures to times looking for the pool. I was shocked that you didn't buy a house with a pool. And then i remembered he gives you use it for about eleven days up there at best chip wants the now of working with w going in in working with them l w at the time was a lot of fun frankly and i wasn't sure what to expect We were doing the podcast. And corban was doing his m l. w. promotion asked me if i'd be interested in coming and helping some the talent with promos and just backstage you kinda help out with the tv production overall in mike. Okay what can this be But i had adapted a little bit different attitude by that point. Just saying what the fuck you know. I think my initial reaction had you asked me five years before i would have said no. I don't wanna do that shit. And i changed my attitude to go. Try stuff go. See what the hell's out there. So i went and got me a lot of really good talent up coming up But play you know it was an opportunity with it was a opportunity to go and play and have fun so i thought it was fun. It was it was a blast. Just get out and do something different. The rassam business. Here's an interesting one that we've haven't really talked about before but it's fantasy booking for wrestlemainia nine from brandon fins she says. Why didn't you just book macho man versus bret hart at wrestlemania non and then he could have just booked hulk hogan vs yokozuna using macho man for a match was nuts in my opinion. Let's say you well. I say that You work there and you weren't booking it so you weren't daily with randy savage telling you that he wanted to get out of the ring in start a broadcasting career so knowing that and knowing their desire to be in the broadcast booth and be able to put them on the grandest stage of all as a broadcaster and color man. That's what we had to work with alexa. Why didn't you do this. Why didn't you book this. Why didn't you book that not understanding indoor realizing the restrictions of the talent at the time. What the talents desires were and or weren't and or weren't Kevin jojo on sperber. I always mispronounced kevin's last name. Sorry about that pal. If it's hunts berg well he calls himself jojo for you know christmas. Yeah yeah does. Last name is hunts burger. But i always have to like sounded outlook. I'm hooked on phonics. If vince mcmahon had bought the the u. w. f. and eighty seven instead of jim crockett. How do you think sting and dr death would have been used and boy. You wanna talk about a good question. That's a good one. Because you. And i have sometimes fantasy book. What if the ultimate warrior instinct swapped. but what. If vince mcmahon. Who jim ross was. Trying to court to sell the w. f. to before you automate landed a deal with jim crockett. What if watts us territory went to vince. And now dr. Death is in and staying in eighty seven. Will it would have been interesting. And i think that you probably wouldn't have had an ultimate warrior. Had that happened or at least not as quickly as we did Probably would've made his way through there. But i think given the opportunity you know the other thing about it is. I don't know that sting would have transitioned i. I don't know you know that that's the old age old question a dr death. Same thing. I think the doc would have made a tremendous he'll to work with all and could have had a long in illustrious career there You know stay. I think the jury is out there. I don't really know. I don't really know fascinated by that. Let's switch gears here. A you know what would be intriguing to me in. That was The mind of any gilbert. Because during that time eddie gilbert had started to you know dabble in the booking end of things in the u. w. f. starting flourish there and get some of his ideas out and that to me is what would have been interesting as far as getting eddie's head involved a little bit and you know then were would we. Would we be as fun too. Fancy book like that. That's good stuff Table talk entertainment says. The wwf has a longstanding history. Detroit any memories good or bad that stand out the most in detroit detroit detroit. Shipowner is. I've said before the tory was always one of those places where you had guys like. George thorogood that would show thomas hitman hearns. Show up the red wings would always show up and it was funny. The the artists that lived in the detroit area. You know kid rock lives right. Outside of detroit and detroit was one of those markets. That always did well. But i think that the things that i remember most is hogan savage with buster douglas is. The referee is one of those moments. That i just won't will never forget Because of the magnitude of it all tyson getting knocked out for the first time. Whatever the sunday before. Saturday night before whatever it was and detroit was just one of those towns. It was always a great town to detroit. Chicago in the mid west were insane. Here's one for matt. His bruce ever seen matt riddles. Knockout on the ultimate fighter. If not conard would you please show him because legit one of the most devastating knockouts and mma history. Did you see any mattress fights back. In the day i saw so matt rose fights back in the right yeah. I don't know which specific one you're talking about. I'll send you a link. But he was a highlight. Reel over there and Well probably w story. To tell one day we'll says Has there ever been thought. Put into a legends. Division or separate show with mike tyson returning to pay per view all the nostalgia around wrestling. It seems like it could be a great success. Age may stop high flying but it doesn't stop promos or the ability to tell stories. I have no idea what question you ask me like. What did you do a legends league. You know this this comes around. Because we just saw mike tyson fight roy jones junior and i guess the idea is could you do will legends league and i think the difference is you do have some performers on the roster who were You know in their life forties and early fifties and we do see him but what a a special one off legends. Only type event work anything. Absolutely yeah i think that there is a there is a desire from the stall jet and that you know you always want to see your heroes from your childhood. You know they'd got one more match one more one more time and sometimes it's good sometimes. It's not so good and for mike tyson Watching that that was interstate and more power to bike. Was mike tyson abol no. It wasn't the see the incredible shape that he was in the. He could actually do what he did at that age. Got damn hats off to them. I couldn't do it Here's one here at to know. Has vince ever had any issues with anything. That's been discussed on the podcast. The gist is have you gotten in trouble. Since you've been back for stuff we do on the podcast and the answer is no boys and girls. We don't talk about anything current. What the fuck yeah. Yeah but you know when you talk about sometimes bondo. Bundling policies were geico. Because whether you rent our own gyco makes it easy to bundle home in car insurance in having a home as hard work get a quote from geico dot com. Make it easy. It's easy at geiko dot com. Let's talk about pat. Patterson hinder jay wants to know. What does someone like. Pat patterson jail briscoe think when the curtain continued to be pulled back essentially. What did they think about k. Fehb starting to go away. You know in in the beginning. I think that it hurts a little bit. You cringe whenever you see someone lending out more and more secrets and then you kind of sit back and go okay. Maybe that's out there but this isn't you trying still have A mistake about the business and you still trying to protect it as best that you can. I never been one for a damage. Do podcast talk all about it. Pretty much everything we talk about has been discussed somewhere else before and We try and just correct a lot of the inaccuracies that are out there. Just outright lies that are done by some people in You know it's in the beginning. Things evolve just everything evolves. You look at television. You look at movies. And you see how they've evolved end what people are watching now on net flicks. An amazon prime and things like that documentaries. That people are in tune to. It's it's different. But i still think that the majority wants to be entertained in the majority likes to watch the illusion without you telling them how the illusion is done. And i just a firm believer in that. I and i think the patent jerry early on were concerned but then they also progressive enough and able to evolve in in grow. That's how they looked at it. here's one about rings wants to know. Do you think we'll see rings bill. I sorry. say this Talking about growing. And i learned yesterday that Someone that that. I blast on hair an awful lot Mother passed away and sincerely Anybody listen this talks today. meltzer Dave very sorry to hear about your mother and that's genuine and Just wanted to say that because that that does suck. We're all were all. Just you know we're we're humans and i do have feelings and i'm i'm not a complete asshole and i just wanted to express my condolences today. There for the loss of his mother and Very sorry to hear that. That sucks super socks Thoughts and prayers for real. Go out today. You know no matter what you guys agree or disagree on. Everybody loves their model. That's right we all have mumps and and it's tough when you lose them. Alex wants to know. Do you think they'll ever be an evolution. About the way rings are being built. It seems like there has to be an alternative to wood. Beams may be carbon fibre or something else. Listen maybe carbon fibers off far fetched idea. But i do think it's interesting that while. Seemingly everything else evolves the ring counter stays the same right well. The ring has evolved and in a lot of ways and i think that the the beauty of wood is the fact that would naturally gives little in would you know it expands and swells and it's it's a living breathing with you call element but gap. I think that it could definitely evolve. And you'd have to have something that is going to be as as forgiving his resilient as would is and until they do that. Think we're gonna stick with would forgiving. What is feels like a transition to another spot at ryan wants to know. If vince towns you to play him one on one and one of these what would you pick ping pong billiards darts. I'll ping pong got in there. I think i got an a chance there is. He's very good pool player. And he's brigham darts. So i mean. I know it'd be pool darts and are now but ping pong. I'm pretty good ping pong player. Have you seen him play pool or you just know. He has a bad ass table. Because i have a bad stable by play. Okay now i've seen play pool darts. Those are all bar games. Was vince back in the day and also hustler. I'm sure had to be. But yeah no i've i've i've actually played him in pool but i've seen him play pool and Senior zoom third arts haven't seen play ping pong and i but i do know i. Here's here's another fact. You'll love fat because this some bitch lists this show to. Bill grey my karate instructor through the hey bill. I'm still waiting for the fourth okay. Twenty twenty still go on. You still have time Get me my fourth induction into the bible hall thing. But bill was like a champion ping pong player in his day and one day we went back by the park where it all started beverly hills park houston texas. Were took my first karate class in all that and it was a rec center is let's go in and play ping pong in. I smoked him his ass so bad that he i don't think he's ever picked up a panel since but he used to be a champion and i mean when i say i smoked him i smoked him. I- skunked his ass and we kept playing a game or game. And i kept meeting him so ping pong. Yeah big problems with my game with your ass except for those then you all. No real humbling deal. Is we went to a Tennis you know pro tennis gimmick mattress max place and if you've ever seen protests players play ping pong holy ave. I mean they back up like ten feet from the table. Inner swatting at gme ball man. It's like holy shit like you can't even see it and they take it very seriously so i'm not that good but your average screen palm player. Yeah i could probably take them well. I've got a question for you. Do you own a home. sure you do. Fortunately gyco makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. That's a good thing too because having a home it's hard work. Geiko dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com. It's easy honi. Shivani porn stash wants to know the bursts ever thinking about teaming up hercules and his dad's zeus and form the mega mythology powers. Zoo great zeus and hercules. The mega mythology powers. That's great make was a little challenging. Now those guys have Well maybe you could book in a you know what man they're their mythological mythical. I can't wait until you guys have The pallbearer hologram folks put together a hercules. Zeus a mic. Less than i do. You have any good pistol. Pez whatley stories. No i know that couple of times. And i know that the the pez was shit. Motherfucker man pez was a tough tough kid. He was he was a bad ass. Like real and a hell of an amateur wrestler in very very tough. And i don't know too many people that everyone has wildly is on a very very nice man the very few times. I was rounding momentum. This is going to tickle you. Andy goldsmith says sean. And marnie sting and warrior jerko storm. Is it safe to say when it's time to break up tag team. Go with the blond guy. Well yeah that's just weeks coun- sense. Mr williams long like a hit that motherfucker. Whether car right. Yeah it works. Okay you take every one of those motherfuckers longevity. The blondes colors hair. Fuck you sure know. Pant where mother fucker you you set yourself for that i got. I gotta look g naked naked. I'm turn my camera off you go. No no no give it back from back is. That's the earthquake right there again by the way step. Quake post the double bye disturbing. Yes it does fernando. Diaz wants to know what is bruce. Think of arns concept of eating a hamburger with no cheese. Bruce listen arns podcasts. But he he's drawn a line in the sand saying there is no such things cheeseburger. That's how you ruin a hamburger. It's a hamburger no cheese. The cheese overpowers the mate. He and i have big heat over. That cheeseburgers are fantastic. Where are you at on arms. Take that cheese does not belong to burger the fuck dabba cheeseburger without cheese. This called a hamburger. Okay that's fine. You know the only the only burger. That i don't eat with cheese is i will get a double opera. No pickle annot cheese like double opera no pickle. No cheese is like grand patty's as onion mayonnaise and ketchup. Okay so literally everything except cheese and accent. Why no cheese. I'm curious because when i was a kid in i would only eat a hamburger plane. Just meet only nothing else on. My mom was like. Oh you gotta try it. It would be delicious and she went to burger king in got a whopper and cut in half and she made me try it in like son of a bitch. This is really good until i got to the pickles like spit the pickles out. So that was disgusting. So then she got me one without pickles. Fuck man this is really really good. So that's just how e- opera anything else. You gotta have cheese. You've got to have cheese. Well needed eastward. I love cheeseburgers I love cheeseburgers with american cheese. Alone cheeseburgers chairman. She's love cheeseburgers swiss cheese. I love cheeseburgers with all kinds of with all be dr pepper jag. That's puts goddamn cheese on the motherfucking burger. Do you melt the cheese like the juicy lucys with cheese in the that's a jr thing. He's a big juicy. Lucy that's again name namely back and think that can well. He's the cheese mass. He sent me a bunch of cheese for christmas. By the way you make love it. I've been wearing now. I don't know. I got an cheesecake this holiday season and now i'm not wearing shirts. I'm trying to fernando. Wants to know notice in the three times three times three time karate. Black belt hall of famer give his opinion on. The netflix series. Cobra kai dental. Yeah okay see. Here's the thing okay. Cobra kai is because the reverse roles. Were the baby face. Turn double turner. It was a great double turn. In cobra kai everybody can relate to and fuck daniel larusso. It has goddamn bucket mercedes dealership and all that shit. So yeah i love it. A my prediction is for season three. They're gonna they're gonna do the term back. Get everybody back in the rifle places. And in all that fucking. There's another thing. 'cause i got inside info here. Oh and in. It's like Braff macho month. God lighten the fuck up. He takes himself way too seriously. Just saying in general because see daniel got man ain't it ain't all about you need to look at the positives of the cobra kai you're getting you're getting into a here. Yes i am cobra kai. Sometimes you shouldn't have mercy just say why not brow. Sometimes you just gotta show no mercy when you're when you're looking at when you're looking at that damn bob steel. She opened up down the road. Now bond and you will the he'll do that in the car business except he's been letting us car business go. We're going to see how that turns out in season three seattle. I'm kinda big fan guy. I love it. Let's let's talk about something that bins loves. What impression does bruce do that. Vince likes the most and which is his least favorite. Do you have an impression that pisses vince off. And does he have a favorite He pretends to get frustrated. When i do him but he really loves it. Great does he like dusty. I feel like a little bit. And they j all our little bit crasher france adriana ashriya knights play little har- hall jr Is he still here. Jerry jarrett see still get a kick out of that. Oh yeah well fuck. oh yeah. Yeah actually yeah. Jerry harris good one of i mean i people think i just do it on this show on on my god. You'd never do that to their face that everyone of them to every one of their faces i gotta ask. What's he think of your gym cornet. I you know shit. He does jim. Everybody does jim cornet. Bents has a gym cornet impression though soccer cheese crystal goddamn cheese cheese a fucking have got the g. double cheese double cheeseburger. Motherfucker tickled me. The idea of a thinking guys were sitting. You're sitting around a table strew at somebody might question oscar. I'm not going into. It's better when i can see you know chart. Thank me out like you look. What he's doing is trying to look at me and like look like he's going to say some a hill expect me up. Cut it. But i don't know what he's actually going to say something and then when he does it. Yeah here come just think mother fucker this scene right here. What we're doing is a lot like that. Seen in national lampoon's christmas and you are the dogs nuts and i'm telling our audience right now. It's easier if we just let him finish. You got a little mississippi leg hound. Any is what i'm trying to say. I had no idea. What would you just called me. Okay so there's a dog. Humps everybody in everything in the movie. National lampoon's christmas with chevy chase. Maybe you've heard of it. Cousin eddy cheaters. Full this christmas one. Yeah i am not really. I've seen it wait a minute. Are you telling me that's not the best christmas movie of all time are you. Are we fixing to get hot right now. Are you going to sit here and disparage the good. Damn name of national lampoon's christmas with chevy chase a julia. Louis dreyfuss is in that she was okay. You're remember now. Yes was she was the neighbor. Yeah that's see. I don't remember shit all right. Well there's a scene where the dog is. Humping people's legs cousin eighties dog. Is humping everybody and because natty says it's easier if you just let him finish the idea being he's gonna keep humping until it just comes out so just let him score and then we move on with our day. So what's the fucking analogy back to me. Because you get in this walking. Stick coma with all the jim cornet she at and i'm trying to talk and you're cutting me off so i just like okay. Let's just let him get it out of a system and then we move out the show. Okay fine mississippi hound. I don't still know that means but okay wants to know the iron sheik abigail. Is that hard christmas movie. Bruce where do you stand on this. It's a big. It is explain a christmas. That's all it takes to be a christmas movie. Yeah okay. I'm with it or christmas. Yippee mother fucker well foul language like that and something to wrestle. Go hand in hand almost like your home and auto insurance and whether you rent or own geico geico is for me to say makes it easy to bundle that home and car insurance. And here's the deal having home. It's hard work. So get a quote right. Now at geiko dot com. It's easy andy. Says hypothetically if bruce into wcw and ninety two and not return to wb does he think he might have had a chance at getting. That president's job eric bischoff would eventually see himself land. No telling no telling you know when i was going to go to. Wcw at that time it was his talent So i don't know if i could've i could handle that landscape at the time. Here's an interesting one. We haven't talked about while. Chris oldham wants to know. Whatever happened to joe watts. Joel last i heard was in tulsa. Oklahoma and i spoke to him a few years ago and tell oklahoma production house editing and doing things so Man jal talented talented talented guy. Just one of my favorite people in the world in a very very talented guy. Shane wants to know what creative have planned for. China when she abruptly left in two thousand one our last appearance at judgment day to be hinting at another. Eddie guerrero angle. I think at the time that it was. It was something along the lines of china continuing to work and just grow her character. But we'll never really know chase hernandez says after wrestlemainia. Six on the success in toronto. You think the astrodome was ever seriously considered to host before wrestlemania seventeen. Yeah it was it definitely was but it never really worked out because of the houston livestock show and rodeo a lot of times depending upon win. That would start. You would have to finish up the rodeo and be able to clear everything out of the rodeo before you could do another event in there so that kind of really prohibited a wrestlemainia in houston for a long time until obviously we got to two thousand or two thousand one two thousand one two thousand two thousand. I don't fuck knows wrestlemanias. Seventeen dammit recipe and seventeen zero one. Okay fine so. I said becky wants to know. Why is miss elizabeth. Not in the hall of fame. I think she will be just matter of time. I don't know what there is to say here or if it's even one that's fair play. Why does bruce think. Ec three wasn't able to transition well and wwe have no idea. Because you don't really working with him he was he was an at. Yeah grand inquisitor says with it being booze birthday. The perfect time to ask the process as far as allowing saboo cutting his own promos in the w. w. e. c. w. show. I think that any performer. You go back and you look at. Cain and people thought that we're crazy when we can't start talking at some point to communicate with your audience. They want to hear from you and they want to be able to connect with you in in some way and that was that was a big part of you. Know trying to get sabah to to talk and and do his own promos and and think that seibu kinda was comfortable where he was and it's just trying to grow man in you have to grow and you have to. You have to continue to evolve in whether you rent your home or own. Your home The good thing about that is fortunately gyco makes it easy to bundle your home and your insurance and and it's good thing too because having no is very hard work because we talked about all you do is good. Geiko dot com. You get a quote and you see how much you can say in. It's so simple. It's good geico dot com. It's easy. I've done it i do it and you should too. Geico dot com resume. Wants to know kevin. Nash has in the past talked about the idea of a wrestling show to be like the larry sanders show. Was there ever an idea to do a show about a show with two layers of storytelling and backstage drama. Yeah plenty of times. It's just difficult to to sell that in. It's hard sometimes when at least for me put it that way. I used to get upset. A dixie when dixie was trying to heal on camera and then she would be tried to be a. He'll on twitter page and then she would tweet. Great baba barmby complete baby face so yes. It's difficult sometimes for people to draw that line in in determine what's what's real what's memorex memorex is anymore. Yeah everybody might those okay. Who marquan wants to know. What did bruce think of see punks infamous pipe bomb promo. I know you weren't okay. Were you watching wrestling actively every week in two thousand eleven or did you just see the everybody talking about it online and say oh i got to go watch this arrest talking about yes. What may told me about it. I don't matter of fact in two thousand eleven. I'm not even sure that. I was taping taping it and going back i at that point i was in tna right and i'm sure that somebody told me about it. I went back and watched it be though i was great because he wants to know what is one idea that everyone's shit on an ended up being absolute gold. I think he means here not the talent. But like nobody liked the idea. Everybody lobby against it and then ultimately hit big mikkola. Three faces of foley is one thing. I don't think that everybody bought it was. Mankind was so strong at the time. And then you know dude. Love and in the damage can be cactus. Jack he can just be mick foley as You know he's got to be all the characters and just being mick foley will never work. I think it did alright. Did just fine. Yeah he did he not that. He wants to know whose idea was to take com commemorative chairs pay per views. How did it become a thing that became within a believable bob collins who was the promotions goo brew at the time and i'm not sure if the nba had done it for a championship game one time and we were looking at it thinking this a hell of a souvenir and a have you. It's i it proves i was ringside at wrestlemainia is kind of how began. Bullshit you rings. Oh yeah here's the chair motherfucker in the only way that you could get. That chair was to have been sitting ringside wrestlemainia that event zest kind of concept behind. It won't give bob collins credit for that. Fred wants to know what's the biggest mistake you've ever made and guerrilla getting those too many to count Shoot going commercial where we weren't supposed to or given wrong time kids. There's a lot of. There's a lot of ways to fuck up there okay. This is done them all at least seven tops current but it's not negative so i think you'll dig it chris. Did bruce have any preconceived notions about anybody on the roster and then once he got back into creative is perception was proven wrong. So maybe you had an idea of who someone was or what they are about going in and then you get to know him and you're like oh wrong on that and a good yes you in a good way. Not in the negative. I don't know you can't give a negative but somebody over. Who was who exceeded your expectations. rainy savage definitely. You know you've heard all these horrible things about randy. But he was difficult to work with was crazy and he was completely the opposite at least at least to me. he means he means currently Yeah currently definitely look guys. I'm not gonna say who but yeah you're putting somebody over though you're not being negative. Okay all right. I get j boogie. Don't take my hoodie sites. Asks who booked the stooges versus the main street posse events. That was my all my big time takeaways. That always felt like vinci's comic relief he got a kick out of his real life son and his real life sons friends beaten up his real life. Best friends aren't that's that's vince. All day is it not been for so both of the mind you know that. Was that a lot of both of their doing that. Time animals to know out of all the referees. You've worked with what makes a great referee again. One that is in the background and does her job without getting in the way in if you don't notice the referee that's great referee Cd says is there any taylor from any era or any company that you've worked with you were surprised. Became a breakout star. Got would let the jury was out on john cena for many years And you know. The jury was out on hunter for many years. So you those guys that stand out bret. Hart a wouldn't have called that back in eighty nine so yeah there's quite a few Atm see says what's the story. Berhad behind hade vanson owes the plan. And why didn't it happen. I think it was some of the most compelling vignettes ultimately went aware. I don't even remember this. Oh boy i do And i forget how the fuck we came up with that name It was some weird conversation trying to block that one from a memory too but the idea was for him to come in and work a program with the undertaker so that we brought them in right up right on top The guy had some talent but when he came up to actually get in. The ring didn't didn't really impress anybody and it was robbery quit. He was very. It was not the biggest guy in the world and it's hard when you are judging them against his peers wherever he may be in pretty sure he was in ob. W i could be wrong about that. Oh w georgia and getting have a bunch of giants there then all of a sudden. He's standing next to the undertaker looking at him in his belly. Button as i okay. This isn't gonna work. But yeah that's what i try to forget. Let's switch gears here. This is a throwback question are busy says bruce said passing only anderson killed the cage match. What happened to make him. Think that Only anderson was to my knowledge. One of the first guys ever. I just had the cage. Raise allow heels to get into the cage. It was just weird and up until that point cage had always been used. Nobody nobody out and at that point cage became just another prop and unfortunately It's hard to turn back of cage can be a violent brutal but in the south anyway the cage match was nobody in nobody out to a finish and only was the first one in the south in atlanta that raise cage and allow people to to run in and then it was like cage raise for the heels but then the baby faces could get into the cage to save them and it just and then people started doing shit like that dusty started doing shit like that and and everybody started doing shit like that. Where the cage wasn't what it used to be. And then you had figure out other ways to make the cage A part of the story and guys like bruno and guys like the sheikh who didn't want to do the clean job the finish to escape. The cage became the norm. You know she couldn't. Pin chic can get out of the cage before him so that that was the rationale there. And you know people do things you know why why they do. And then it evolves from there and doesn't matter whether you know you ran her own your own home skill bob long. The hotline is just like a cage match. You could bundle that shit you can bundle your in your auto insurance together and you can save money and that's a good thing. It's hard to own a home. And and i got good geico dot com and find out how much money you can save. It's geico dot com. It's easy it's simple in. It makes sense. A- tickles me. I just pulled the copy up when he did it and we're so in saint there that's started by. Here's the thing. I am told you this. I love the geiko shows because there's so much fun is okay. How are we going to get another You know whether you ran her own gyco makes it easy to bundle home and car insurance. The geico dot com today. And you know it's it's i just i look at that figure out well. They're good to us. We're going to be good to them. And we want our audience to be good to gyco as well because they are bringing you this show right now. Kobe read enough. You had a week off. Here's a wish. Where would be your go-to vacation spot a beach. You guys had big plans. That have been awarded a few times. You were going to do a big sailing vacation. That got cancelled. could steph. Had some stuff going on and then you had another big beach one. I even recommended this great housing kabo at megan. I've been to several times. Paid for has been used yet. It's for sale by the way we should go in and buy the house. Let's talk about that off the air. But i love it and you didn't get quite pair so any exotic beach. That's your speed. Were they speak english. Yeah i understand. Take american money. You're going to get a little heat speaking english but by the way. Here's what i mean by that. No speaking english. I i liked to go places. Or they speak english I'm not fluent spanish. Fluent in french and Or italian or anything like that. So if i go there. I need an interpreter. But if you go to the caymans and Places like that where everyone is. They take american money. The dollar i don't like exchanging money in and having to deal with wondering about okay. Three pesos equals this or anything. Like i hate doing in canada. They speak english there which mascot was worse. Gobbledygook over or wildcat. Willie oh why can't willie. That's lame but it says. Wcw bullshit wild. Yeah willie albert cook. Greg wants to know her. If bruce had to choose between dave meltzer or jerry jarrett to be the head booker. Who would he pick. I said i wasn't gonna say anything bad about today. So you're picking jerry jerry not in a million years so mauser them not in two million. You gotta pick one now. This never watch it again. And i love you so much. Andy says we know bruce. His thoughts on dave meltzer is there any wrestling journalists that bruce holds in high regard. This had a good working relationship with over the years. Don't beat up the word journalists. Just tell me a wrestling personality that you actually like. Is there one see. Here's here's your where you have to define what's wrestling journalists because people that you would think that you call wrestling journalists. I call gossip monger. Okay just tell me anybody in the wrestling business. You'd like creative writing. They don't actually journalism. Have you ever liked anybody bruce. Just anybody at all you hate everyone. Do come on but wade keller. They've share mike johnson. Jason powell bruce mitchell. Hey body i can't say i i guess i met the bruce mitchell guy. Yeah we had dinner with him way. Killer came in and introduced himself to me star cast and was very cordial very nice But i i'm not fond of any other work by any stretch of the imagination. I've never met the the what the guy he said. They share. whatever. I don't know who the hell is. Dislike mike dawson. He's always been nice to you. I don't like his work. Oh okay. I don't know i i you know again. I don't know. I i- classify that work in a different way that you do. Francis wants to know what. Christmas presence Have you gotten from the boys org into the boys over the years. Is there a funny when one or memorable. One god damn. I don't know that i've ever really changed any presence. So then any of the boys you ever events a memorable after he give you a memorable gift Employment all all of a sudden. This is the jr podcast The the My favorite gifts. That i gave him was a nice Art bottle of ketchup. Like a big fucking thing catch up. They had offs like heinz baba catch jeff but it was like a really nice art kennedy thing like a warhol type deal. Yeah but it was an actual bottle of it was like a ceramic bottle of ketchup. So probably probably steve kauffman them. Yeah i yeah okay all right. Let's see. I don't fuck it ever compare me jim. Ross like that guy herm french. I don't believe in exchanging gear with with with with with town centre. Fresh keep that separate com ryan. What's your what's your next up. Quick gap there your book. I mean that's this is deja vu here. Basically wants to know whether any big celebrity involvements possible for wrestlemanias that fell through and were never reported by the sheets. You know. I think they there were trying to. I'm trying to think assam need. Ask fucking questions and you can't come up with answers that's just jersey shift for resent anything we at tyson. Different times when he fell through different times What were some of the fuck and others and actually fill through. I i couldn't tell you Think we had chuck norris for wrestlemainia seven in la that fell through. But i you know it's it's funny would win schitt falsely you. Just move onto the next thing right so you forget about it and you have you have to. You have to block that shit from your mind. Because otherwise you're trying to make everything else fit into that plan that makes any sense so chuck norris fall suit okay and i had checked norris but i have elizabeth montgomery and i'm trying to make elizabeth montgomery fit into chuck. Norris planet doesn't work is like you get you set on shit you can't well. We're set on saving money with geico whether you our own gyco makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. Go to geico dot com today. Bruce we're going to do one last question. We're going to wrap it up. This comes to us from conrad huntsville. You want to know if you've had a chance to catch what jake paul has been doing. Recently knocked out. Nate robinson on the undercard of the mike tyson pay per view and this past week or so. He has basically went. All pro. wrassling created a series of videos challenging conor mcgregor to a fight And it is wrestling one. Oh one everyone responded to the challenge and made fun of it so he responded with even more parodies of connor's jiu jitsu coach. Connor himself dana. Why on and on. And on even michael biz been got little shrapnel but it was entertaining interferes wrassling. One on one may knowing you like i do. I imagine you've got a good chuckle out of dick's creativity love it. I love it because absurd in both. Yo jake and logan are the epitome of promotion in the epitome of going out and being controversial and making shit happen so kudos to them. I think it's tremendous. I love the way that both of them are able to digest. Get people talking no matter what so soft. They're great promoters and entrepreneurs. And i don't always understand it but good for them. It's been remarkable to see if you're a a wrestling fan and maybe you're not a youtube guy or you're not a ufc or a box of guy. I could see how this would have been under your radar And don't get me wrong. There's some foul language and definitely some adult content. But jake paul knows how to play the he'll and he's playing it up perfectly. I can't wait to see how it develops. But all i could think was with a big grin boy r. s. l. i. n. s. wrassling aureus. That's gyco gyco g. icao gyco geico dot com. Go there and find out. Just how much money you can save and find out how easy it is to bundle your home and car insurance whether you ran whether young geico makes it easy folks. All you to do is go to geico dot com keith. This show on the air with gyco. Let him know that you heard it right here on something to rest with bruce. Richard comedy and bruce. Since you we'd brief shit serious business so cool gaza. Let me give you pick behind the curtain. You've heard our sponsors over the years and we're proud to have all of our sponsors but when a single sponsor steps up and says we just want to own a show. 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Ask Arn Anything 15!

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Ask Arn Anything 15!

"Everybody thanks for listening to aren't here on Westwood. One wanted to give you a quick heads off. We're going to be covering tag asked. Aren't anything today. That's our subject but next week it's over the limit twenty tenth. Which really excited about because this card is frequent. Loaded John Cena and Batista Edge and Randy Orton. Vic Show Ramos Stereo impact. Kofi Kingston drew McIntyre Chris Jericho. But the thing we're looking forward to the Hart Dynasty. You know how much we've enjoyed watching Tyson Kidd and sorrow here. We get to watch Tyson Kidd and David Hart Smith when an underrated tag team. That was really looking forward to it. That's going to be here next week on the show and also going to be posting are bonus show over it and free shows dot com. Which aren't and I've had a lot of fun doing because I'm getting to watch wrestling with Arn Anderson and of getting his head and this is going to be really special we're going to see his only title shot. Really think about that aren't got one world title shot his entire career. Those against Barry Windham Slam Berry Ninety. Three we're going to do that. Watch along style which is just going to be so much fun and we had this idea because we had a ton of fun. Last month we watched him until win the tag titles when Barry Windham turned on lex Luger and joined the four horsemen and then dusty. Rhodes had something to say about it and he catches a beatdown for trouble really phenomenal stuff. It's available right now and free shows dot com coming up tomorrow. Tony Shivani and I watched one of the most legendary Rick World title matches towards the end of his career it's commonly referred to as a night in Greenville for May of o-3 where Rick wrestles triple h for the world title. It's going to be phenomenal. But maybe the main event this week a sit down on Thursday with Jim. Ross to cover Dr Death Steve. Williams has close personal friend of many many years and then of course on Friday. I'm going to catch up with Richard and we're GonNa talk about the very first in your house pay per view. It's got diesel and sit on top for the world title. You can get all these shows early and and free with a ton of bonus content. Go check it out right now and find out what everybody's talking about it's ad free shows dot com starts to bucks a month that's ask free shows dot COM Hey it's GonNa add top center near list and with the founder of the four horsemen the hall of Famer himself. Aa Arne Andersson ornery man. Still healthy everybody. I know I'm thanking God for that is still healthy. And everybody's kind of toeing the line and of earn in that being healthy. I think if you do all the things that you're asking you stay home and you do the social distance and all that yeah eating healthy and still managing to get a workout so mound. Do all that stuff. You're going to stay healthy. So guys are everybody out there. Please do everything you can do to keep you and everybody you know healthy and were maybe turning the curve at some well we're certainly turning occur here on the show fans really digging our format. Where every other week we give them the keys to the show and say hey what do you WanNa talk about? And today's no difference another Hashtag ask aren anything and if you want to participate in one of these shows that simple follow us on twitter at the orange show and Just look for something near the top rebbe. Recently we posted. It's your favorite time of the week. It's time to Hashtag. Ask Arn leave your questions here. And we got hundreds of responses. There's no way we can get the Rim all but we'll try to Hit the high points today aren't are you ready. You Bet Steve Kauffman wants to know is aren't a home gym Ga and if not how has he been dealing with Kobe? Nineteen closing? All gyms has been very very tough learn when they closed jam on you. You know and you're used to go on four or five sometimes six days a week it. It's tough I lucked out. There will be no disclosure of wear but I- located a a GM that I was available to us and was one of only a couple of people that was able to use it. So I've been able to train the entire time And it being an empty building. Still observing all the rules and everything and it was. It was a fortunate find and I am so thankful that saved my life through all this and I don't have a home gym. Don't have the room Ford. I don't know if I would've ever looked at that is be a necessity cost. Good God who knew this was coming but I did have access and I do have access to Jan. I'm very very thankful very small one but it's not like I'm training for the Olympia either. So Michael Elgin's rights pick your poison are and be penned by one of the Ding dongs in a tag match perform the role of the shock master during his debut. I coulda pulled the shot master thing off. I'm sure I'm sure I have many times in just don't recall it. That's an interesting question You know now that I see that. The shock master deal has been embraced. It has turned into an iconic moment. It went from one of those mistakes that we all make at some point during our career. And it's now it has turned into a one of the highest spots and it's A. It's a positive moment I thank you. Go back and laugh at it and that's cool. I could pull that one off. It is fun that people live from being so serious about it to understanding. Hey man she had happens. And let's let's poke fun at it and have a Little Fun and Mr Osmond. He's he's embraced it and he's Double down on it and I think he got a good sport about things like that. I mean this is all supposed to be fine right absolutely and Hey we all do stupid stuff. I go back and watch ole tapes of you know not even the beginning of my career the end of my career. We all make stupid mistakes during matches and Darren promos and you mess up on the verbiage or you say the wrong thing or it's in the wrong tense or all that we all do that so as long as you don't make too much out of any one single event and just take it in stride and move on. It is what it is and nobody's perfect. Here's an interesting question one. We haven't talked about from a more modern. Wwe James Shea rights and what is or was your opinion of Enzo. Andy think he still has a place in the business or God. I'm certainly not the Kinda guy that they can say. This guy doesn't belong in the business unless you've really really went out of bounds or something. Nobody died and left me. God and you know. Let me make those decisions Enzo was a guy that that put a longtime in down to you and With his partner big cast and they had a a pretty strict going down there. Once they came up to the main roster though you go into a whole different learning phase. Or you're supposed to if you're going to be hanging around you're going to go through whole new. Let's start over. Here's the way we do things on raw. Here's the way we do things on smackdown. You can't be too hard headed about that. The cost people trying to help you. And if you don't listen to those people and you fail then it's on you if you do listen to those people and do everything that you could possibly do to pull off what they're telling you to pull off thing you got a shot at it and I just think Enzo might have been a little bit too headstrong about how he felt. Thinks should go. And you know. Only time will tell who knows when he'll pop back up somewhere allegedly and of course I know that You weren't there for any of this. But allegedly he rub some of his co workers the wrong way and there's been reports that maybe there was an incident with him and poss- mother talents on a bus once upon a time. Maybe you recall there being some quote unquote hate on Enzo from from some of his. Wbz brethren well. I mean rumblings you know of course guys are always in not getting along and trying to sabotage each other and and all kind of things and then there are a lot of times that that a guy will just be doing stuff in the confines of the locker room or during a match on a road trip or Airpor- or wherever it may be that you hear about secondhand. If it's personal stuff I just let it go by if it's business related and you start to hear disturbing things and come from more than one source sometimes where there's smoke there's fire. Do you think you think we'll see him again. I mean it feels like for whatever reason he may have burned a bridge with WB. And I think there's folks within a w who have sort of clear that that he's not going to be welcome there because it feels like if he was going to then maybe it would have already happened. It feels like they did a little stop and start and maybe shot themselves in the foot with him and ring upon her. You start to wonder what's left. Do you think there's a chance we see him pop up somewhere and if so what do you think would be? I mean. It doesn't feel like it's that likely that it would be new Japan and perhaps the NWEA. But I don't know if that's exactly what he's looking for. And if you're SORTA running through everywhere it feels like impact maybe by process of elimination. What say you well never say never in this business right? If you're a fool if you say all they'll never work in this business again. Well they won't until they need you until the company has a place for you and you're the one that would fit in that spot and they're really not concerned about what you've done in the past or what your reputation is if there's a need to be filled and he's the guy to fill it then he may get another crack at it. You know who knows? I can't look at the different companies and just say. Oh there's a perfect fit awesome. I'm not I'm not that familiar with him. To be honest with you. Sure was grand. Sorry I just you know. Just say that I would be very careful. Even though the business went through the the through the last year out assay. It's a resurgence the pro pro wrestling. Would you agree I would? And now it's like we get slapped down by this tragedy and we're going to have to start all over again and that means everybody's gotTa get on board and number one. Do what is going to strengthen your company protect your company at all costs because if these places go under any one wrestling organization that has started to catch fire over the last year if it goes under. That's a lot of jobs and we certainly don't want to see anybody else lose their job. Let's let's talk about Alex. Right Josh Kun says. What are your thoughts on working with Alex? Right and this has been an interesting topic over the years. Because we've heard that he was maybe supposed to be one of the next big things and then he had a bit of a health situation and guess repackaged incomes back but his legend has almost grown. Because he's sort of stayed away from the American wrestling sane but apparently still doing his thing over in Europe. What did you think of working with? Alex was a good worker. Be Honest with you He was young kid was athletic. And you know he had kind of grown up in the business and he came to us with a little bit of that European flavor. I don't know about the dancing thing. Now you put yourself inside my head back in that moment in time. I wasn't quite as liberal in my thoughts as I am today because it was a different business but wrestling bell to bell. I enjoyed working with Alex and I worked with him a lot of times and he was a young guy and you know he was gone home and he was willing to do whatever you wanted and I enjoyed working with them. So you had a problem with the dancing at the time you felt like it was making a mockery of business. Maybe just it was just. It was just silly. It was for a baby face was awful. I mean it wasn't like it was even good pin guys in the past danced and you know and and different things and you know spun up on their head and did all you know but it was good stuff. It wasn't this thing with Alex was just like it. Was It cheesy? I thought and I don't know what it was meant to be cheesy but it it was cheesy and I just never could get used to that being a preamble to what I was going to have a serious match to follow a hope anyway. No I get that it makes sense. Here's an interesting one that we haven't talked about before you and our Mike eldredge wants to know what did aren't think of the Hog wild slash road while pay per views of course was an outdoor concept. Happening in sturgis North Dakota. It's a biker. Rally there no tickets. Sold. There's no seating in the crowd just guys surrounding the ring and oftentimes standing over their bikes and revving their engines. And I don't know it's a unique environment. What did you think of Of the conditions and the environment as one of the guys in the ring it was difficult. Be Honest with you We were all out and trailers but these were not air conditioned trailers for the most part one or two words and you know the brass had those so you had Outdoor facilities for the restrooms which was for the guys and the girls. I felt really terrible for for the women have any use outside Porta body. They're held the hotels in the area. Were sold out way in advance. So you had guys scattered around at different hotels and things of that nature it. It was dirt floors backstage everywhere so everywhere you went. You were tracking mud and dirt everywhere. You went it was hard to keep. The the rain claims you can imagine. Gown is trip would pick up dirt if he didn't cleanest boots all before step through the ropes. Now you're tracking dirt in that. It was notoriously brutal hot and kind of spoiled. I like to have a claim. Hotel Room doesn't have to be the Taj Mahal. But you know like it to be clean electable to walk around without having to have my socks on and you know there were some some. They were just just fair. Hotels THE ACCOMMODATIONS. Because there weren't any more hotels were just so and I just felt like once you got in. The rain started your match. You're going to get a true wrestling reaction right. All you've got a bunch of bikers and they're gonNA cheer and Boo what they won't and at the inopportune time if that's you know that's what they wanted to. What are you going to do wade out in the middle of go? Hey you're not react around fellas that would have been interesting Yeah you know. Technically it was an logistically. It was a little tough to produce. It really was And you know I'm not real. How on non my money making projects? I just think somewhere down the road you have to turn around and make up for those losses. Maybe not immediately. But that's not. That's not a my business Josh. Kun wants to know. If you have any good Rowdy Piper Stories Again Piper was a guy that I didn't spend any downtown with I was a huge fan as as you will find. A lot of wrestlers are are fans of Roddy Piper. And what he brought to the table. Certainly he was generation before me or a half a generation. How you look at it but he was just so talented and so good on the steak and that's one of those things I aspired to do. Well was to be able to communicate with the audience and put out whatever. I wanted to put out negative positive. Bob Tell a story go back and recap a story from last week or make a prediction about a story coming forward and hour just watch. Piper and marvel at how good he was and he paid a lot of news to get where he was in the business and He was just one of those really. Really huge superstars like a wrestler wrestler as far as just being so well rounded and and really superstar and a business. I miss him. That's for sure. I Miss Getting to watch him perform. I'm really fascinated to hear you talk about. Roddy Piper is being somebody so influential to you and your style because his promo style on your style. I don't see a whole lot in common. It feels like some of his were so the top and at times even nonsensical but it worked because it was him for some reason like I don't know that anybody else could have said the same words he dead and worked as well. It wasn't necessarily what he said but how he said it. Don't don't don't misunderstand me. I wasn't saying that I tried to pattern myself after him do anything that he did in the ring on the Mike. Otherwise tried to emulate him in any fashion. I was just so amazed that he was so in touch with that character and so in tune in was comfortable with who he was Anka pull off what he was trying to convey in his own way and he was so original it was it was more me just knowing this guy knows who he is. He's got a grasp of who he is and if today he's going to be nuts that's the piper you get today the one that's nuts. Nf He's dead serious next week. That's the one you get and you believe all that and that was more of where I was pointing on around bars. Emulating by hinder. Jay wants to know aren't what's the most scathing. Promo you ever cut on Rick Taylor. I'm sure he means in real life Did you guys ever have a moment where you really believe? You're stacked one of those guys. I'm sure we all did. I'm we all you know. Bid Each Other's heads off. 'cause we were all together you know too much of the time But whatever it was it would have been short-lived probably didn't last over a day probably was about something that didn't matter and we were pretty. Close there in those days. We were you know because it was kind of us against the world. There was some animosity in that locker room. If you could imagine the way he goes are and the way they should be and there were some jealousy and there was there was all kinds of things going. Also we county knew that we had you know. Watch each other's backs and and work together for the go to the company. We're all pulling the wagons the same direction so if anything that we that we got into it was more ribbon on the square. We were you know I used to rip the guys all the time and they would have me back and it was you know it was just. It's probably some of it started out. 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Wwe Mike Whitaker wants to know. Was it ever discussed to have you as an on air character in? Wwe and of course he's talking about back in the day he means your most recent agency ruin you. Were there a long time? You've talked to us a little bit before. About how you they tried you commentary and that lasted. I think exactly one show. What can you tell us about any sort of discussions one way or another about you being a more regular on air here her. Well I did a few things scattered here and there The undertaker thing was the most prominent probably of my career that that short little interaction that I had as part of him rex match at Wrestlemania And there was a few things you know. We did the deal with NEXUS WHEN WE'RE LEGENDS. Were all out and we got the shit kicked out of us by the next skies which I think would result in steamboat. Legitimately getting hurt That was a few things over the years that I would pop up like towards the end the last couple of years. I did a little something back stage with. Let me get this right. I WanNa say it was the ascension and Fandango and was fandango dangles partners name breeze calories. Yeah dollar breeze. I apologize a ham for his name not being in the forefront but we did little backstage thing a week or two of those guys that was entertaining but There was never any talk of me being out ongoing character on the show. Here's a fun question for us and can't believe this is actually a thing but it is and occasionally. It'll make the news Make Domain Western award or orange thoughts on being able to place bets on pro wrestling. And what might the reaction of been suggested thirty years ago? So now that you've seen this aren't but especially when it comes to pay per views in the like There are certain websites. That would actually take your your betting action on. Who you think's going to win. And they've meltzer would often report whenever there was a major swing because it would feel like perhaps some of the company who knew the finish was would last significant enough that it adjust all of the lines accordingly. But the very idea that we're betting on something scripted on a sporting website. Feels a little weird? Let's say you you're kidding me right. No it's real life man you can bet on pay per views. Stop that stop it. I've never heard of this but I wish that would this would have been going on back. When I had some inside knowledge. You know what I should have done a few years ago tax. Hey Pal WanNa make some money just thumbs up comes down well you shit the bed you and I not only with all your accrued will so far I would be having some of that right now. I never swear on a this is the first. I've ever heard of that but I'm speechless. I don't know what saying Ricky Morton's mullet wants to know went out with the boys. What's the protocol on who picks up the check? We're talking just going out to dinner or whatever it is. Let's pretend you know. And we know that allegedly back in the day flair picked up the tab most of the time but let's say that you're in a territory and flares not there this is maybe free horsemen. And it's you and bullet Bob and I. I don't know Matt borne whoever and you guys go to the bar and everybody's having drinks and then the tab comes what happens now well my experience with that is you have separate checks because guys are going to leave when they're reading notoriously Gaza going to get out of there and at that it hits him at that exact moment and I'm ready to go. And before you can start unraveling one central check just easier to have separate checks and let the guy know when you get in there because some guys are GonNa stop and have wondering as or some food to go right. Some guys are going to go in there and have ten drinks not get any food and everything in between. It's so my experience was you just have your own separate check and that made sure nobody tried to get over on anybody else. Anybody got screwed along the way. None of the people working in the restaurant at the shaft Separate checks go ahead and give 'em your credit card when you first walk Hannah. La just keep this open. And but I'm the only one ordering off of it. That's the way you prevented things getting a little shady. Yeah I can see how that could be something that could get a little hairy another question here any stories about the iron sheik as become a bit of a cult. Figure he had run. I don't know a decade or so ago on the Howard Stern show and he became I Dunno know comedy figure even did some stand up comedy shows and but once upon a time I mean he was a legit bad ass. A former world champion. What do you remember about working with the Iron Sheik? I was just laughing my ass off when you mentioned his name kind of under my breath while ago and not in a negative way every time I see him he is such gimmick. I just bust out laughing. I mean onsite and he was. He was abused by amateur wrestler. Our get some of this story. A little jumbled up but I will tell you one that is absolutely hilarious when I first met. Sheikh is when I first went to Atlanta after. I'd been with Bill Watts and Matt Born Myself Paula. Lowering we got to Atlanta and she rode with us a few times and it was my first dealing with Sheikh. So there's four of us. Were going down the Roden and I'm sitting in the backseat. I'm the rookie. And she gives beside me and let's just say he had a little puff of the gone. Joe Sir which made him feel big Philly huge heart. I am big man. He felt like his chest was like it grew ten inches in his mind. And the way sticking it out. I couldn't argue with them. So don't you are only Anderson's causing that's correct. Yes she off his boss. Man is cheap shot. He thinks he can stretch the chic. I don't care if the boss outstretch him a stretches no good as I said well. Okay all right Understand 'cause that you were amateur office. I was Olympic champion back in nineteen sixty eight Olympics. I stood at everyone. I am still shoot today. I Mike everyone humble. I said okay. You were in a sixty eight Olympics and I started doing the math. I said if you don't mind me asking she this math that you just gave me that. I just of told out you would've won the election at like fourteen years old. That's amazing hawed kiss. I cut benifit. Now I'm Roland I'm absolutely rolling. I know that he is ribbon. Me Sure but he's not he's not reading me he doesn't believe yeah he believes it. He wants me to believe it and he believes it to the math so screwy. And all that stuff and and I'm telling you I just busted out laughing and then he started out laugh at thank God. He wasn't offended and I. It was the craziest stored I'd ever heard but over the years. I mean every time I say go hug his neck. Shake his hand to me. He is a walking comedy act but without not making fun of him right. Just laugh just laughing. At the gimmick costs he is so into his gimmick Thank you very much ricky. Morton's Malla for having aren breakout his iron sheik impression that we didn't know he could do ship. These are. The noises are used to make when I cut myself shaving before I knew about manscaping dot com. Thank you manscaping returning loud shrieks into multiple peaks. Here's the thing guys. We've all had a little situation before lampy. We're even a little embarrassed about but now those cuts the knicks are thinking of the past. Thanks to the lawn mower three point. Oh and here's the deal you've heard US talking about manscaping for a long time. But their team has spent eighteen months perfecting the greatest ball hair trimmer ever created for talking about the new and improved lawnmower. 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That's twenty percents off with free shipping at MANSCAPING DOT com. Just use the Promo Code Arn Tony. Your partner will not for them as for you one last question from Ricky. Did you ever see Alabama Doi? Nwc Let me give me the backstory here on there was a rather plump individual who wrestled in a full doing gimmick about looks like a Walmart special and he had a match several years ago against Heidenreich in the parking lot of a golden corral where they destroyed an old beat up car through each other in the bushes and it is exactly what you would expect based on the web scrubbed it but we recently lost Alabama link. May he rest in peace but he's become an Internet legend that it was so bad it was great. Did you ever see any Alabama doing now? Do we know the name of the gentleman behind the mask? He was in India. I wouldn't have been a name you and I would probably know but the next time year In Huntsville I'm GonNa break out some Alabama doing for you. I think he's going to be right. Appear Alley deal deal and I would say this and this off. People won't expect that coming from me but if a if anybody male or female is able to go out and even have one match at something. They have lived their entire life aspiring to do wanting to be in the professional wrestling business if they get one chance at doing that and they're truly a fan someone dedicated to to the business if they get one crack at it and a golden corral parking lot and sewer drain on top of a building. In someone's shed ask him. Was that fine and when you look in their eyes you'll see the same thing from everybody not that it was great not that it did anything for the business but it let them live their dream if only for a brief time and how can that be wrong Let's move along and talk about another story that was recently disguised on Jim Cornell. Podcast someone asked about ribs where it was a joke to have someone arrested and he says once upon a time the guys review and you were quote unquote arrested and I think a lot of this became a part of the Internet conversation because a famous story was told on the w network where Vince McMahon had Jonathan coachman arrested for A legal gambling horse. It was just a big game and eventually they let him go and no big deal but generation before that according says you got arrested my first Charlotte North Carolina House. Show hadn't been there anytime. don't know but I mean just it could have been a week could have been four days but it was the first Charlotte Coliseum. I just left Pensacola. I'd left. I'd worked a Substantial what could four here I gave them my notice. Okay okay. I work a couple of weeks. Notice which is is what any promoter would ask so. I left the right way. I got an ice payoff on the way out. Thank you Ron Ron Fuller Robert. Fuller the whole watch. Bullet Bob Armstrong one. That was an owner. Jimmy Golden. Thank you for that. It's the biggest week and the business so I get to Charlotte. I'm ready to rock and roll and I'm sitting in the locker room and all of a sudden to cops walk in and Jimmy. Crockett is in because we are in Charlotte. He's in the locker room and they go over to say something to Jimmy. And I'm looking Adam and I just know that anytime police officers come in and ask for the boss good now so I'm sitting there. Leisa my boots up and I just kinda looked down. I'm just trying to become invisible just because it's going to be uncomfortable for whoever and whatever the situation is it just ain't going to be good like you said and two police officers come over to me and they go your name. Is Martin Monday Yes Sir it is Were you in Dothan Alabama on and gave a date now? I'm trying to think I don't even know what that day that was. You know the business is and I'm thinking back and I'm going I. I'm not sure well we're sure we have a warrant here for your arrest will then Jimmy Cocco October skies. What's what's the problem here Mr Kraken need to stay out of this. We have a warrant for this gentleman's arrest he will be taken to Dothan Alabama or Delton Alabama When they can come get him. But we're going to have to hold him here for extradition and he goes skies. We could take care of this. Jimmy now we can. We can handle this other way. No Sir we can't so will be held for extradition. Jimmy looks at me and he looks at them and now I'm shaking cheeses. They got the paperwork in their hands. The whole thing they go so they cuff me. And Jimmy who? I'm waiting to say on. I'll be down there to get UMANA. I'll be down a minute. He goes well. Take him out the back door. Don't take him through the crowd. I think about that minute for you. Talk about cold blooded. Your last hope just said take him out the back. Yeah don't mess with my business. See later yeah. If this is going to stick. Sorry and Nice aren't been five days Celia. Ben. I'm walking out the back door now. I'm coughed on me. I got to wrestling boots. That aren't laced T shirt wrestling short recipe tides kneepads. I'm walking out the back door and my legs are so weak. I'm almost fallen down. They got a mighty. What in Hell and I'm telling you it pure terror that's terror and I go out. They put me in the police car. And I'm sitting there and I'm going. Jesus I gotta get a hold of my fiance. What the thousand things. I'm you know how do I get a hold of? Erin out on anybody here in town I just got here all these things going through your mind and all the sudden I hear that left. It's Rick I'm laughing his ass off with that big nose. His pressed against the window jerks the door open. Goes we got you? So he set it up arrangement they arranged it and it was Just so happens which I didn't know. At the time Doug Dillinger. Who is did security for Crockett all the time and was the Charlotte police officer and one of his friends. Pull this thing off and man. I could barely get out of the backseat. My legs were so weak and it was. It was a ritual a welcome. You're part of the crew man. You talking about a bad rib. That's a bad rehab or hilarious when depending on if you were in the COP car or not. I mean if you're on the outside it's probably one of the more sterkel things but yeah that they probably glad to be wearing black tights. I can appreciate. Yes both sides of it Big Rand six three wants to know. Aa. You always carry yourself with such humility and grace for this question. Please set that aside. When did you realize that you were over that you a draw that you were a main event player? Is there a specific match angle or year? You can point to and say man. That's when I really felt it I don't know about being. I don't know that you have a feeling of okay. I'm over. I guess you you get to a point where you start feeling like I can control the audience. I think right before. I left. Pensacola I will just say this. And I did feel this because every single week I got to do all those markets SPEC promos and get them right and I got to do them for solid year. You know and I got to develop who I was. I got to develop my rain skills so that I could go out and have a match with virtually anybody and it be possible. I felt like and you know I had my guess. Gimmick you know being an Anderson Wrestling that stall ahead everything pretty much lined up to where. I felt confident that I could go out. And be put in main event position because I'd worked main events and you know for solid year with those guys and they addressed to me and I got to work with all their top baby faces that came in and all those things so I felt very confident at that point leaving and walking in the door with Jim. Crockett from first television. I felt like I had my shipped together and felt like they could put me out there with whatever talent they chose and I would be comfortable with that and I could Add to what to what the card was at night in a felt like I was in a position to get over and his famous words to me Dusty. Rhodes when I walked in and met with them and the office has he just caught back but his boots up. Forget it looked at me. Just said go get old sat That's all I walked out. Knew exactly what he meant. And that's what I try to do and I thank obviously the success. I was a part of with Jim. Crockett promotions in a position to get myself over. And I think I did. I think we would agree. Adam wants to know what is arms opinion buried Dr so saying that totally injury on purpose with the chair shot when the brain busters won the belts from demolition after admit Arn. I don't remember hearing that but I haven't seen a lot of Berry Dr so interviews always done a couple of interviews and the like but I don't remember catching any. Did you ever hear the story that maybe Berry was upset with tally by Donald Chair? Shot Chair shot to switch the titles When Andrea came down said the chair in he did potato him yes I do know that any might give him a slight concussion but I know he didn't try to hurt him will purpose. I would bet my life on that. That's just not the way we operate it or are thought about now again. I try to tell people all the time you know no matter what you think about the business you hit a guy with a steel chair in the head. It's a steel chair in hand and the way it was Berry was covering me totally slid in and there was nowhere for his head to go he hit him in the back of the head and it was a potato But it was not him being reckless. It's just it is what it is still chairs. Hurt folks make no mistake. And there's been a lot of concussions that just swept under the rug not intentionally but I mean when someone would be out and be heard you would just say okay. They've been hurt. They'RE GONNA be out two weeks or three weeks. You know a lot of those come from chair shots back in the day and I I would almost guarantee. Barad ourselves a good friend of mine to this day. Tally did not hurt him intentionally. Did he hurt him with a chair? Yes he did all right. We need to run a time out right now and tell everybody how we can make this the best summer ever. Here's what we're talking about. Skip your June and July house payment. You're done until August. I come August I. You're going to have a better mortgage. I am routinely helping our podcast listeners. Save five six seven even eight hundred bucks a month but once you're saving that money what he knew with it. Sure you can stick it in your pocket. But what if you find it to? The principal of your home paid off faster. 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And I know that the Internet at the time was just sort of sour on it but I think some of that. Is You know tin foil hat business. Jonathan rights if Nike Bella wasn't involved with John Cena Divas Champ as long as she was. Gosh I don't know I mean who's to say. I just need for their time. If you go back and look at it the ladies that were on the roster and what time period it was and the uniqueness of them being twins and if you go back and watch some of their matches you know they were good together and Nikki and it's not me making a personal observation or anything to do with John. Because we had no crossover a business whatsoever. Just because I had all John's matches did did not mean that I had anything to do with Bray. And and Nikki. I mean they had their own producer which was usually fit family. But you know I don't know how much politics plays into title runs. I don't think as much as people would think I really don't. I just knew that the you know the ballots worked well together and they worked well with the other ladies and you know I just base my opinion on what I say and you got to look at the era in the timeframe and and in all how much time do they have an individual match. And what magic were they trying to to pull off in a short tom or did they have too much time. There's so many variables you have to look at on before you gauge a certain match. What is their story going in? What's IT GONNA be the story coming out there all variables and they're all very important on how someone's performances portrayed fun question here based on some of our show reviews? We've done this one's from big extra says aren't you've talked about? Dolf siegler on a previous episode. I feel like he could be the next. Cody Rhodes meaning a guy that bets on himself and hits a big BC him ever leaving being any point or at this point. Is He alive for with the with the company? Well only doff day that I know I don't know I really don't know I just know that. Every time I worked Dolph Dolph had an opinion. And if you don't have an opinion in this business it means you're really not thinking about what your job is that day probably deep enough because if you're not talking about it you don't have an opinion about the whatever you're going to do on TV that day to me. It tells me you really not that concerned. He always had an opinion and he always had a slant and some of those times. Those slants were not what was being sent down from creative. You know the fact. That doll has always take pride in every match. He's been in. That's one thing. No one will be able to say that he went out any tanked one on purpose or loaf or a loafed never and I respect that. Because you know you get faced with a lot of situations it really don't do anything for you during the match. Don't want do anything for the company but you go out and you give it your best because it's not about any of that it's about giving the fans a product. They're they're glad. They paid their money to see. It's purely in simple. That's the first thing that you should do as performers make sure that audience is the very best of you that particular day and you know whether dolf moves on or if he ends his career up there you know that's certainly up to him. I just know that he's a professional. And that's leanings. I had with him and that's my opinion dearly has an old school question he says. Can we have detail on? When a fan rushed the horsemen and Richmond. You got him in a headlock and by the nose and then. Jj kicked the guy in the face and accidentally broke your fingers wrapping Rit. Rajiv aren't wants to go look for some good eaten. Where where's he go? And I'm sure he's talking about in your your stomping grounds these days of Charlotte Charlotte North Carolina Where am I looking to go? Eight with the pandemic thing going on when it's all over when things are back to normal where will be the first place. Aren can't wait to go. Oh I'm sorry Let's a a steakhouse here. Called beef in bottle that has been in Charlotte probably fifty years. That is really old school. Just just it's not real fancies not white white tablecloth. You can wear whatever you'd like in there but the stakes are phenomenal You know all the sides are incredible. It's it's just a really good done. Be Your kind of state you know. Sixteen ounce twenty ounce really good stuff and I look forward to go on there and grabbing a male. Yeah just had to throw that in my Google machine and I wish they were open today. Check this is a fun one because so many of our listeners. Really hang on your every word. Some of your old promos Do you have a favorite? Promo that you've done yourself like. Is there one that you look back and say man? That's about as good as I ever did. Right there Trombley. There's probably three that stand out. I think probably retirement. Casa wasn't a promo that was just me saying goodbye. Llamas spot or is that a different one No the one where actually retired and made Kurt haning gave him my spot that one Not The parody that followed right right. Obviously that one probably the one from Disney after we got beat up myself and rake and staying Ray were in a ambulance carted off in the next week. We beat up to Boogeyman that. Promo which is one that you brought up the quote that I stoled from the untouchables. You take one of ours. The hospital we take one years to the more that. Promo and I would think probably Greenville. When we're out and Greenvale in the taxes and stuff and it was rich return to the company. I think those those three probably stand out a what about a favorite promo from someone else. You know one of the more famous promos that people talk about or Dusty Rhodes hard times and see him. Box Pipe bomb. Is there one that sticks out to you that maybe a lot of people aren't talking about that you think man? That guy was on top of his game. Right there No one in particular that I just. That is just stuck in my mind. I don't think I know that when I was down in Pensacola Bob. Armstrong had a very convincing promo and it was just a southern firefighter that was now a wrestler and and was just tough son of a bitch and he could talk that southern stuff that you and understand. Conrad and the the audience would just get behind. And they would believe in Him. And if he told you payback common you believed and he was one of the guys that I really loved to watch talk. Obviously dusty never did about interview. I don't think In his life Paul. Ellery you stay entertained me a lot putting the road warriors over on how competitive was when when you guys are in the horsemen you know. Ali was known to be a strong Promo. You obviously as well. Telly blanchard. He almost nobody else and requires promos at times. Were just out of this world. It almost felt like you guys were competitive with each other. Maybe it wasn't spoken explicitly sad. But you don't WANNA go out there for everybody else is Sean in like dominant. Come off looking like a third. You GotTa Bring Your a game. Was there some competitiveness of Mana saying top? This and this is what's funny. We would never talk about who was. GonNa go first or last our anywhere in the middle. It was just kind of working knowledge that we knew who had the big match if Dolly. Now we're going to be third match only that particular interview. We were just lay out. If Rick was always going to be the main event we would let him either. Take the lead step up. You knew once once the microphone was ready to be handed off from from Shirvani. Whoever stepped forward took it. You knew we're GONNA lead off and If it made the rounds and there were still a little bit of time left you know me? I would try to go get because I was selfish. I WanNa make sure I had enough time to to get over and I know that sound selfish. But if you're if you go at the very end and the promo has flowed so well that it should probably end with the guy. This niche ending right now at LASCA would just lay out. Jj Lean forward and put the four out with all Tho- and four fingers and we were done and it was almost just knowing okay. This one has flowed. Well donate to say anything else. But if he were won't be talking you only had fifteen seconds left. You better have just one kill shot line one clench would line or something to shut it down with because that's all you had and you did not want to go over on that. Tv show or concert. Just that time do not belong to you and it was very valuable. Let's talk about this forefingers Brad Rights. How hard was it to not put up the four horsemen forefingers? Hand gesture when you until they went to the WWF and all the fans were doing it back to you. Well the very first night And we did it probably without thinking They did hit us with our very first time on TV and without thinking we shot it back to him and when we came through the carton way. We're told do not do that. That was then. This is now it has nothing to do with the four horsemen has a different company or different characters. And they only had to tell us. What's this is an interesting question? I WANNA spend debated a lot and I think you and I have touched on a little bit but I don't think you gave your opinion chip. The now aren't thinking that this pandemic will be the final nail in the coffin for the House show business. It's been a lot of speculation that on the other side of this wrestling really will become television product and if there's a TV typing and then there will be matches. But if there's not ask shows no moss what say you. I don't believe that because how shows or different than television two different show and I think people are still going to need entertainment and when it comes to your town I mean it's you can watch anything on. Tv Doesn't matter what it is but you know if it's a Cirque du Soleil comes to town. I'M GONNA go see it right. Because it's such a quality entertainment event and a half of did come to concord chimeras years ago and took the family went up there and it's just a different viewing experienced than sit and watch it on TV. Same thing with a live event in all. It's it's a lot of fun it's different. Don't have the you know the glitz and Glamour in the PYRO and all that stuff but you get you know eight matches or something and you get a short story where the beginning meddle in an end and you get winners and losers in. It's just a different viewing experience then TV and I think as long as you know in once America gets back thumping and hitting on four cylinders you know and people are out making money and spend the money people still want to have entertainment and I think that were still be somehow shows around a question about Jim Cornet. Like we've got a lot of questions about stories that may be corny has told on his pie. Cast by you. But here's a fun chip Boston. Can you give us any stories or recollections of your time and smokey mountain wrestling? Some of our younger fans may not be familiar with this territory but this was what Jim Cornet started after he left. Wcw interview a started his own promotion and It had quite a little run. It was sort of. Its own little territory before e c w rose to prominence and It was sort of the place to be if you weren't with the WBF WCW and you had a few shot. There and I think it was mostly on like a talent trade from WCW. If I recall what can you tell us about your time in Smoky Mountain? Yeah it was It was fine. I mean it really was fine and I think this occurred after did the angle with their watts and he. He blew my knee out in the seven eleven parking lot we had to fight and and I went home for a few months. And Bobby was was off to and We worked about three shots for Corny. And he did the the Promo were ricky and Robert brought out a mystery partner under a sheet and man. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed this whole shooting match because cornet played at all so well I mean he just he came over now looked at me and I don't think he can't have made a half ass kick at the bottom of the sheet and salted. Whoever was under the sheet? And there's nobody under there and I don't think anybody on earth what have believed or guest. I was going to be partners again. Robert after all we had been through over the years and it was just when he pulled that She'd offer me. That place blew up and we had a hell of a fight and we worked our way into a match coming up a couple of matches. It did some good business for Corny and he was very generous and In the playoffs and it it was drivable from Charlotte on top of that. So all in all it was a great time. I had a blast all right. Let's wrap it up with an interesting question that you have never talked about but I think a no. The answer are wrestling story and writes why wasn't only Anderson inducted into the Wwe Hall of fame and twenty twelve at the rest of the horsemen. Well my my I knowledge of what of her through the great behind his own does not want anything to do with. Wwe In any fashion period. And whether or not he was asked to be part of that that group or not. I don't know if he would have. I'm sure he would not have accepted because of all the things that went down years prior when Ben's got control of his television and all those things right now which is pretty common knowledge in the business and it was really a heated issue between the two of them and that was some conversations and then salt that went back and forth and that was probably the biggest reason that was no interest on either one's part. You ever hear the story. Did you start a confirm or deny that? Once upon a time Vincent man went down to Atlanta and he brought his wife Linda with him goes over to Ali and says all you want to introduce you to someone. This is my wife. Linda allegedly only says book you and fuck her to I would. If I was just guessing I would say that probably happened. It's unbelievable man it's just Only was a character in half and I don't know if you want to be entertained and you're not familiar with with house. Sorta ornery. All the Anderson could be the row in your youtube machine because man that guy just wakes up pissed off does he. Not Yes he does. Any always been kind of that way but not to the extent it is now You know he was very intimidating and and he was easy on me but he was very intimidating very gruff and and in those days. Yeah I guess you have to be fair about it when Vance was going around and and putting his plan in place to take over pretty much the world these promoters and these owners took that personally sure and it was a guy got taken away their livelihood and you could imagine if doesn't matter what company is if if a big brand new company comes in. That's a hardware store or whatever and Home Depot and all these other guys have been around for a while but this one is just a mega store and got all these things and they're gonNA look at putting you out of business that would be a sore subject with you and I think a lot of that stems from a lot of promoters back in the day when the takeover was in its infancy. Talked me briefly about only and Rick Allegedly over the years when all he was booker and an control he wasn't always a fan of the style of match or the performances that Rick put together and he's been pretty critical and she'd interviews and more recent years and even alleges that you know quote unquote. I'll put the Goddamn belt on him. So you just fucking leave start AC- and they say matches over and over and the idea is he was upset. That rick would go along for the sake of going long. The idea that rick bought a good management along Matt so he wanted him to go quote unquote go home getting showers and get to the next town and it just feels like that is a source of frustration for only wear. You know maybe that wasn't even the real reason he was upset. He's just looking for a reason to be mad at Rick. What was their relationship like? And when did it start to sour? Our just guess that when rig was making the rounds as the world champion only wouldn't see him live wrestling very much because he was traveling the world right and he would come back to his territory and make dates and there we go he would go to Puerto Rico or Australia or wherever it was going to be other places in the states. You know. Go to Portland for a week. He go to Pensacola for a week. He go to Dallas for a week. He go to Kansas City for a week. He really wasn't watching him work that much. But when only started back working and he our partners in the horsemen thing came around and he was at the Arena. Every night watching Rick and those long matches. I think that is probably where which start to on him a little bit. Don't know why but I mean we know this and it's something nobody probably ever thought about all and I would have our match. Let's just say whatever whenever it was when were on first match after animation semi main Pinot were totally was on the card and all these other things but we would notoriously have to be there to the very end to run in on rex match and you know after his match or whatever so now if you're doing fifty minutes and you're waiting and you're waiting waiting for a guy like all. It was already a wealthy man and already had his money put up and had his life pretty much settled. I'm now this is just guessing that migrated on him in all the long matches and all those things but not sure not positive best. Just my guess. Well I'm positive. 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Three Year Retrospective

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

3:18:03 hr | 1 year ago

Three Year Retrospective

"The arena with her yeah well. That's not a real who else there's no box of gaming wermer berman you. Did you went in there. I wa- they're eastern bruce. How old doc was she knew. How aw what happened solution so good for pearl toddle walk away with something to wrestle with bruce prichard it. Hey it's conrad thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle with out bruce pritchard okay. We're just kidding. Bruce will be here in a little bit but we wanted to drop a little bonus episode today a little retrospective in honor of the three year anniversary of something to wrestle. That's right three years ago today. On friday august the sixth twenty sixteen something to wrestle debuted on the immel w radio network. I'll never forget. I was at the n._w._e._a. Wwl legends fan fest in charlotte north carolina and i had been podcasting with ric flair for over a year at that point and lots of people who listened to the ric flair show <hes> recognize me and came over to talk to me about the ric flair show and i said now you gotta go check out this new one man that just came out today. It's got something to wrestle with bruce prichard and you're gonna love it and i got a lotta strange looks because obviously as far as name value wrestling goes. It's hard to be ric. Flair and most folks who had heard of bruce richard couldn't even spell it. They thought there was a t in his name. Which is what you know early on the episodes. When we started shielding t shirts i i would say don't put a t in his name on your back so i could get strange looks and some people would say you mean. The brother love's guy but the hardest person to convince events that this was a good idea was burchard himself. I guess we should go back and tom. I met bruce in two thousand fourteen. We quickly became fast friends. I i was doing a lot of television production and in and video work for mortgage company and i had an idea for a couple of different commercials and asked him to lend lend a helping hand those were at home runs so it became a more regular occurrence so about once a month bruce would fly in town and spend the better part of a week with me we would would produce a new campaign for the month and we were off to the races and we're having a lot of fun after hours at first bruce will stay at hotels and then eventually i just said why does crash your house so we found ourselves just hanging out and i'll never forget one nine on the couch. I said hey man what happened when the radicals jumped from w._w._e. W._w._f. and i'll start all questions to bruce that way my wrestling fan i would always say hey man what happened. When which is where i came up with the name for tony shivani show much later because all of my questions always started with high man what happened win well. I wasn't really that big of a crispin. Law eddie guerrero dean malingco or perry saturn. Fan wasn't like they were my absolute. Favorite wrestlers are appreciated their in ring performances format suits and they were they were fine wrestlers but it's not like they were my childhood. Heroes like a whole cogan was or whatever but i just knew that would probably be an interesting story. I mean such a big group. The guys jumping you know normally when these jumps happened it. Was you know wanted to time never four or five at a time or six at a time when over the rumors were about everybody else so an hour later when he finishes the story a realized this would have been the perfect podcast. You know there were happy moments in there that were sad moments almonds in there. You know i mean what a ride y- you could get happy and mad and gladden sad all at once and i said bruce this has a podcast and he wasn't convinced he just thought that was the worst idea ever had already tried that nobody was making any money in podcasting and he looked to me and said look how hard it is for you guests on ric flair show every week and i said no not guess. We don't need guests. You're the guest. We just need what you just did to be. Put out to the masses because i'm the target audience on the demographic and if i'm entertained by what you're seeing here i mean i know this is what wrestling fans want and and he thought nah. I need to talk about the current stuff. I don't really want to do that eventually a warm down and convinced him to just take a couple of practice episodes so we would sit in my den with a couple of hand held mikes <hes> we had <hes> zoom like everybody uses whether it's chris jericho or steve austin or anybody in podcasting testing these these zoom hand held devices a couple of sheer. Mike's and we were just talking about whatever we talked about whether or not hakim the african dream was was really a rib on dusty and we talked about the debut of the undertaker and we talked about the rockers and just whatever freestyle he got much more comfortable and thought you know what i've tried. Everything else silly wanted me to do in this mortgage sales world. Let's just try this on to see what it looks like doc the uphill battle though was he wasn't sure anybody really wanted to hear what he had to say and he felt like wrestling thing was in the rear view mirror for him so one-sided overcome both of those and convinced him to at least try it now. It's a question of where are we going to put this thing and if you remember back in the day on the w radio network when court bauer was producing podcasts fairly regularly. He was not always super con bruce because they work together a little while at the w._w._e. And as a result <hes> bruce was a little hesitant that i don't think it's gonna go for that. He's not a big fan of mine but i knew that a lot of people are listening to the rick flair show and i thought if i pitched court got a great idea. There's no overhead in this. I think it'll be a hit. We should try it out. Twos credit court saw vision court bought in and when we made a deal right away and court started handle the production and the back end forest got us deal set up with audio boom so eventually a little bit of money might role in little. Did we know that's not really the case there <hes> and then then he made a cool theme saw force which you heard at the beginning of today's show a little bit of a throwback our original theme song which i believe is the theme song i'm from a._m._c. show preacher which is obviously a nod to the brother love concept or gimmick and that was actually even kicked around for the name of the show. Maybe we we should call it. The brother love show. Maybe there's not enough name value in bruce prichard. People don't even know how to spell it so maybe we should not put bruce richardson. Just call it. The brother love show you bruce of course was hesitant to do that because he didn't own the brother love trademark but i'm happy to report now and twenty nineteen with a little help from our gimmick attorney mr dawkins <hes> bruce now owns the brother love trademark at least in the wrestling space but either way bruce said now we're going to do this. We should do new and name it. You know a little nod to to my first mentor in wrestling mr paul bausch. His letterhead always said something something to wrestle with. I think we should call the show something to wrestle with bruce prichard and those are funny debate between he and i will is it something to wrestle with with bruce prichard. Are there two widths. No there's not too with but i can't go on for a while but either way type this practice episode and we weren't really happy happy with it and we said you know what's one. We know we'll get hit that people will talk about. Is there a bit. All i knew about radio was you play the hits and i learned that from my close personal friend mr dale jackson here in huntsville alabama and he said hey the format is play the hits. If you listen to any you know sports talk radio show. They're gonna hit the same major topics. Everybody wants to hear same thing with politics and especially with music. If you listen for four hours you're going to hear the same songs over and over you play the hits. I knew there was one story. That bruce had that he loved the tail that cracked everybody up. Every time it was is about the american dream dusty rhodes rotten shotgun with bruce prichard when they get pulled over of course by now. You know i'm talking about the second most famous athlete in the world world. Today story is bruce's favorite dusty rhodes story. I knew it would be a hit and <hes> that was our first show and head of uploading the first show we got a lot of you know sort of pro tips from professional podcasters and people in that industry they said whatever you do don't go more than an hour and if you wanna make any money any definitely don't curse and whatever you do don't plug everything you're doing at the top of the show and you sprinkle that out or just don't miss it at all and just pushed the word through social media but don't don't she'll too much well. If you listen to this show you know we broke all those rules rather quickly. We were also told if we could get ten thousand downloads. We'd be doing pretty good. If we could ever get to thirty thousand downloads we can start making some money and if we hit this you know allen attainable cleanable plateau of one hundred thousand we crossed that threshold we could finally make a living wage at podcasting. I didn't know exactly what that meant but it was a lofty often gold. Our first episode on dusty rhodes the north of sixty thousand down loans but it didn't happen on day. One like a good movie it got better and better as the week went on so word of mouth carried us to where saturday was more downloads and sunday was more downloads and monday was more download download and tuesday was more downloads but the real show that showed us sort of what was possible was the very show that convinced made that we should do a podcast it was about the radicals and i felt like at the time that it was one of the best wrestling podcasts ever done and we recorded it in my home studio radio where i'm talking to you from now and at the time we were both wearing headsets with mike's. I don't do that anymore but jim ross still prefers that so we got him one of those headsets but we're recording in my little home. Studio bruce got upset about eddie guerrero. He assumed i was going to clip that out and i didn't and because because i didn't i think it added to the the realness of the show another layer that previously maybe hadn't existed in wrestling podcasting and i'll never forget bruce our in the home theatre later that week watching halt and catch fire on a._m._c. which is an underrated show and he said hey man. Have you seen her downloads today because we have like a back end where we could log in and check out downloads and i said no. I haven't looked and he said well. Mine's acted funny. Take a look at your says so i log in. I had holy shit. There's this can't be real. He said that's what i said. So we think surely there's a glitch. It'll be fixed tomorrow which check the next day and and it was even bigger. We couldn't believe that this was possible. Over three hundred seventy five thousand people had downloaded the show and it became our most downloaded show whenever listened to or we never had and we realized <hes> we're onto something and a lot more people listen to this than we thought. We need to take this seriously seriously at this point. We have never taken a show note those no real format. It's just two guys sitting in my recording studio having fun and don't get me wrong. I paid attention wrestling. I have a pretty good memory about things like that but i didn't have a real format and that all changed when we realized how many people for listening so as we prepared for the steroid trial i had to do a little more research predict way out of hand when i sat down to work on vader and ron perlman because i wanted to make sure that we made those real career retrospectives and i have great respect for what those guys didn't professional wrestling and i wanted to do right by them so we had huge formats and i'll never forget the first time i sent wanted to bruce s- thirty pages maybe forty pages an unbelievable miniature book about their career with lots of references an exact quotes to newsletters and books and shoots and those shows does really changed the course of what we're doing in more than one way because around that same time guy who called in when we were doing the ric ric flair hotline on the rick flair show and the concept between between the hotline and the show was. Let's have sort of a radio format on rick nick show just to herd cats man. If you listen to those shows you know i'm talking about. I got a program this thing like radio show and have different segments. Maybe that could lead sponsorships but more importantly we can keep the attention span in line and we can keep it short and i saw another little cool element would be to have fans call in and to what we call the ric flair hotline and leave a voicemail and then we would play this message for rick and then let rick respond well. The very first winner of the call of the week was doing a character voice little. Did i know this is the same guy later who would send me a random graphic for social media for vader and and for brian hillman and he did this the second time i said dude these are awesome. Can you just like make these fun graphics for us every week. He said oh my god that'd be glad to and what wound up happening is. It became one of my very best friends. I've ever had mr dave silva and dave. You're with me today. I think this is your unofficial debut on something to wrestle. Is that right. I believe so they yeah. This is my unofficial debut. So first of all thank you for being on this crazy journey and jumping on today not spend a few minutes with me sort of talking about this three year anniversary and it's really remarkable. How much has changed. I in three years not just in professional wrestling. I mean you go back three years ago and you know matt hardy is is is woken on impact and the young bucks or are ripping up and ring of honor and kenny omega has not yet become the new japan world champion and you know at this point i i don't think charlotte is the greatest women's wrestler of all time whatever and now so much has changed not just in wrestling but in our lives you you have your story i have mine bruce has his and there's a lot of other people in our support rolls around the show and everything's changed you know tell tell everybody from your perspective. How your life has changed because the next thing i know is we've got a lot show. That's been presented to us by. I promote her in florida and court bauer brought it to us and he said hey they want you to do a live. Show and bruce and i said what the fuck is that and he said well. It's like a small venue that will have some seating and a lot of standing room only a stage and some mike's and you guys just do a live podcast and i thought that was absurd so we're going to have a folding table label and some microphones and he's like yeah pretty much and so we started thinking about how what would that look like and i came up with well. Let's just rip off. Pardon the interruption when they hold up the heads on sticks. They don't really do impressions but you could actually do impressions and those could be like little punctuation points bruce love that idea and we worked out a show format and i worked out for matt and he worked out one when we come on it and then i said this one actually be pretty good. We should figure out a way to document and that's when bruce said why don't we get this guy. Dave silva come film. It and dave silva having never met either one of us jumped on a plane from texas to florida and hooked up with a couple of strangers and life is a little different fair to say dave. That's an understatement. I remember when the live five concept <hes> start to be tossed around the idea started to comment <hes> at the time i was working as a a assistant news director her in a newsroom down here in texas and <hes> it was a working my eight nine hour day coming home and then doing graphics perfect swear the shows and and what are you guys needed and and doing i love it. I love it and and i love doing it but man there was just <hes> electrcity the city when you guys started talking about this live show happening of florida and <hes> and i remember telling my wife i always like i've never met these guys <hes>. I'm just know them through twitter or a phone call or two but i think i'm gonna fly myself out there and i think i am. I gonna meet them in person and i'm going to show them that. I'm serious about this and then i and i love what we're doing and i love to be a part of it so from finding the big heads cutting out of cardboard and sticking them on paint stir sticks of and try to figure out the <hes> the magic of putting reading those together and keeping them keeping them together during during a live show <hes> was fun but <hes> it was at first meaning when bruce sentence wife stephanie go pick me up from the airport which is totally bizarre. I could be a mass murderer at he's like oh steph go pick up here blurred brigham brigham over and <hes> we just hit it off right off the bat and <hes> she's just a wonderful lady and <hes> bruce and i hit it off we we spent the day together at shots and stuff with him. <hes> during a wrestle kahn which was doing a signing there and <hes> and you know we just hit the ground running then i got to meet you and <hes> and kansas and it was just it was so cool how all of us have the the same direction had the same vision and just it was like we knew each other forever and <hes> it's just been fantastic from that weekend from and putting putting up the table in that little little small venue to climbing up to the bird's nest of the small slav bar eh to squeeze myself in there to get a cameras i can get a nice view of above everybody else of the stage <hes> <hes> forgetting my tripod shooting at holding up the whole time for two hours of but it worked and the you go we we hit the ground redden. It is pretty remarkable when you think back to that i live show because you know we're just legit figuring out and never really been the thing and so so many of the w._b. Performers at the time we're listening to our show but at the time of course nobody really knew how bruce would was going to be received by management and and everybody sort of had to keep quiet. I remember going to a house show the end of two thousand sixteen in nashville and i was friends with charles robinson insane and and michael hayes and a few other guys but <hes> a lot of the referees who were charles or other performers what would come over over make the approach sort of look left and right. It'd be like hey man. I love the show in a whisper lose opposed to acknowledge and even before for slop show you know <hes> dolf off ziegler and and curt hawkins and zack ryder they wanted swat. They wanted to come say hello bruce they love the show or listen to it all the time and i just wanna say hello but they couldn't stick around for the show and certainly couldn't be our surprise guest because nobody knew mike gonna get in trouble for this. I mean that was never explicitly said but we just sort of got the vibe and one one of our big special guests that night was jeff jared and we had really spent a lotta time finding ways to work in you know with my baby tonight in the show and i even had my sister make whose little arts and crafts saw center like pictures and video of jeff jarrett silly old double jay light pat and so she made like a homemade version of that and he donned it and to our surprise jeff jerry came out and the place went bananas and we went from. We can't believe we're ever going to have a live podcast to hey. <hes> this is actually pretty good and we think we can take this thing on the road now at this point we've we've done dozens of shows including this past december. We did you know sold out tour of the u._k. Where we're all over ireland and scotland and england and it was a great time and and who would have ever guessed that all of that was just sort of a happy accident was never my game plan. What am i game. Plans was to try. Try to raise revenues though on the show because as mentioned earlier maybe you're alluded to man it was really hard to make money and podcasting you know you go back to the the play that it platform guaranteed contract from them but it was for not a lot of money and and ad sales were what they were but then when you sort of on your own there were challenges and audio boom at the time and you weren't making a lot of money and sorta is what it is it was such a nominal amount though that is bruce she just i keep it all in other th there's nothing we chop this up. There's literally nothing so just you just keep it all and eventually i said said hey here's an idea why don't we just go by bruce prichard dot com which i couldn't believe it didn't own and then we'll start selling t shirts through there and it'll just point pretty much to your pro wrestling t store but your shirts on there now. I mean they're just about brother. Love what if instead bad we took some of the funny silly things we said here on the show and we threw him on a shirt and we just pushed it on the podcast so we did that and then i said hey hey really wanna make some money with this what we did this. What if we really swung for the fences and every time somebody bought a shirt you called alden thanked him and he said what do you mean. I said they won't expect it but if you just call and thank them for it they'll be so overwhelmed. They'll go to social media the talk about it. They'll tell the friends now. They weren't just buying a t shirt or buying experience bruce that was fucking genius and very quickly he went from. I think he sold five shirts and his is best month before and very quickly he was in the top ten and briefly in the top five at pro wrestling teeth because he was selling so many shirts and again behind the scenes are deal was man. We're not making any money in podcasting. I'm gonna push my mortgage company through here so if you go back and he listened i'm talking about mortgages a lot more than i do these days and that may change but the way we were monitoring it was through t shirts and and and bruce kept the t. shirt so i get flak every now and again that i say they've meltzer's ulcers my friend but there is a fuck meltzer t. shirt over priorities now. I don't receive any money from that compensation. I just promote the show. I'm promote the <hes> the website here on the show but it's not all evil that we've done on the show. You know we did a lot of good <hes> on this show we did. I think three separate separate fundraisers we did one for ls and i know for you know the <hes> for that great organization we raise like sixty grand and we did one for american american cancer society and i think we're excess of thirty grand there and well over twenty grand for the houston flood relief so together i mean i think we've raised like two hundred thousand dollars for charity and you know eventually we started actually raise some money for ourselves. <hes> way we had two point one million downloads downloads in a month which i thought was pretty good so i went on my own and sent a pitch to mid roll and said you know hey what about this and laid out a real presentation and they made an offer and we had a guaranteed contract and for the first time i made money doing a podcast on that happened about five months in i would say are ruined and about the same time i decided hey. Let's spin off of what we've been doing here with bruce until the w._c._w. Sada things and eric bischoff at the time was was doing a podcast with nick houseman and scott bischoff on wrestling and i wanted i wanted to do w._c._w. Version but i wanted to do with somebody who i felt was sort of lock. Bruce in that eric was still very much on the wrestling space. He had been a part of t._n._a. He does shoot interviews. He'd written books richard. There's always sort of behind the scenes. Nobody really heard from him and i felt like tony. Shivani was that guy from the from the w._c._w. Side in new started in like eighty three and he was around till one so the number of years and the length sort of matched up with bruce and i felt like he was really the voice of w._c._w. So who better but most reportedly i saw him at the end of the legends fan fest and two thousand fifteen and he stole the show so fast forward and i thought this is the guy so i had his number from his him doing guest spot on ric flair podcast semtex and said hey. It's conrad introduce myself. Can i have your email. Address got an idea. I'd like to present to you so far off. An email is probably two pages long that was a real business plan for how it could monetize this and help him make some some money and it was the same format that that we were doing with bruce. Hey we've got some guys who can go sell some ads but we can do some live shows. I think we can get a guaranteed contract. If we start to get enough downloads but in the meantime okay some silly shirts you can keep all that money. I'll push mortgages every now and again. We'll get some money rolling in and and i just so happened he needed to pay for his daughter's wedding and this looked perfect opportunity to do that and i'm happy to say that that we were successful in the effort we had a real goal that we needed to hit for that and we made sure we sold enough t shirts and enough aunt sponsorships to make sure that that happened <hes> and then after that after tony's wedding he said okay <hes>. Let's start chopping up some money and so what do you know. I was making money in podcasting again but the the name of the show was what happened when and of course we wanted to just rip off the w._c._w. Logo with w. h. w. but what happened when was something that i used to say to bruce <music> all the time and something else. I used to say to bruce all the time is we ain't gonna win that. I'm mr positively in our group in our circle but when we nominated for podcast of the year from the academy of podcasters we're in there with bill simmons and gosling. We ain't gonna win that but bruce took a flyer and and went out and went to the the ceremony if you will and at the awards show <hes> was woken by a middle of the night phone call and a bunch of pictures bruce had new hardware we won podcast of the year from the academy podcasters in the sports realm of course so the sports in recreation segment we won and i was shocked by this. I couldn't imagine that a wrestling podcasts could win something like that so we started yelling and telling everybody hey we're the podcast of the year and then at the end of the year sports illustrated our great friend over there for many years mr richard dighton now he's athletic the athletic you should definitely check that out <hes> he said that we were the best podcast and sports and it's a professional wrestling podcast and that was in sports illustrated is trying to like the actual magazine it blew my mind and somewhere around this time justin barosso from sports illustrated when you see his extra mustard stuff online took notice and said hey i'd like to just sorta catch up and recap and talk about your podcast every week and markle that'd be okay. I jumped jumped at the chance to do that at our surprise when we absolutely buried t._n._a. Not once but twice they called bruce and said hey how would would you like to be an onscreen character for our show that blew my mind not necessarily being a booker which i guess makes sense for bruce. He's done it forever but based on the success of the podcast impacts aw hey this could actually get our show some attention at the number one podcast. Why don't we put on t._v. And see at the taping people taking pictures of bruce walking down the ramp wearing something to wrestle t-shirt and the something to wrestle missile wall graphic being on the jumbotron. That's the most surreal thing ever was not dave. It was incredible it was how did we get here so quickly that we're on television now and bruce's back on television of as is a character it as a booker. It's bananas. It was crazy. We both were just like <unk> pinchas because this can't be real that mm through the winning the award and him sending the pitchers to use sports illustrated in you're right it was in the magazine you open up the pages ages. It was there in black and white in the magazine which was mind blowing to now him being back on television with impact after the two episodes. It's crazy man. It was wild. It was and you know. It's something that i've still got like acilia acilia. The sounds i i've still got our podcast of the year like microphone trophy here in my studio. Bruce has one and i have one that's on shelf and right next to it is a little framed aimed you know print out from that sports illustrated magazine and i know that you know that sounds to some people listeners all that so mark. You have to appreciate man versus doing this in his like garage. I'm doing this in a. I call it a studio. It's a little built in office off of a garage in my house like by at a laundry room. There's no audio engineer here. You can listen to those early shows. It's a shit show you know. We don't know we're just figuring it out man. We we know we've got good stories stories but now it's up to us sort of get it out there and the idea that millions of people were listening and real mainstream was taking notice was really really crazy and i don't think think there was any more evidence of that being crazy than when we got an email from the barclay center asking if we would come do a show piggybacking a nets game so so not piggybacking a wrestling event but the raw anniversary show is going to be on monday when we come up on a friday night and at the conclusion of the nets game do our live show like what i can real n._b._a. Team and they gave us like courtside seats which were also i mean i'd never sat courtside before that was bad ass and we thought what better place to announce another spin off another another chapter in what we were doing so we had bischoff schoff can be our special guest and that's where we announced eighty three weeks so at this point we're three podcast. E put this format but that wasn't really the big news. I mean i don't know how could be a bigger than being at the barclay center and we sold that show out and then there was the little shot to the crowd where we had to be in our seats courtside you know between between this quarter in that quarter because they were gonna come stick the camera in our face and put us on the jumbotron and the crowd goes mild because they had their basketball the ball fans they have no fucking idea who we are and of course you know our smattering of applause from shouli in our friends who were who were there yeah they were happy to see us but still it was a cool deal but not the coolest thing that happened that week because that weekend bruce had to make sure that he got fitted for his new white suit he was going to be back on monday night raw that monday. I couldn't believe it but they put up a poll on w._b. Dot com asking who are you most excited to see at the raw anniversary adversary show and it wasn't the undertaker. It wasn't stone cold. Steve austin brother fucking love and rather love was is there and he did a pre-tape and i got to go to that show and hang out and sit in the bleachers before doors opened with bruce in full brother love gear something he swore he would never do again which we just recently talked about on the show a couple of weeks ago and it was so surreal somebody online i forget which website but they were doing like <hes> <hes> some sort of a recording device to see what got the biggest pop of the night and bruce prichard being on screen not in front of the crowd but onscreen got like the biggest pop of the night which was just crazy and at the end of that night after all the cameras are doing and everything's finished bruce got to say hello to vincent man in person for the first time i'm since probably two thousand eight so it's been ten years and he got to say hello and they gave the big hug and i guess the wheels set in motion art then holiday yeah you know from from the poll and us watching that poll in the background and his in like. I can't believe this is happening. People wanna see bruce again. What is the brother love watching that poll grow to him going in out in buying a suit buying the suit again <hes> to <hes> just the process of him becoming brother love for that little segment <hes> it was it was the sorrow and end you know a lot of people <hes> a lot of people would know that bruce will be nervous to go backstage and to go back there and pretty much see all his buddies but it's been a while you know he's he's he's been he's been gone for a while so going back there and just hearing the excitement in his voice voice as those nervous jitters kind of melted away and he started to <hes> see his buddies again and send pictures and you see just how excited sided he became <hes> to be back in the fold in some way shape or form <hes> it was pretty awesome to see you know 'cause <hes> when you see your buddy happy it makes you happy and that night <hes> even though yes it make up for god got those how long it he was bitching and moaning about that but <hes> to be able to see him so excited and taking those pictures and and bruce bruce hates taking the normal <hes> the fan pitcher with him and his buddy in it's like i'm always come on bruce this history the something you're gonna wanna see you so okay so there. He is with teddy long or there. He is with ron simmons or their user j._b._l. And he's like they're my friends. I don't need pictures of. I'd like to go to one of these pictures so to see him that night. Dude sell peace with all his buddies backstage. <hes> it was a great feeling because he was so excited and it was such a such a great night for him and to my surprise you know it wasn't just w._b. He was taking notice after that weekend barclays the n._h._l. Team the florida panthers took notice and asked us to come down to florida and do a live show down there after one of the hockey games and i mean again how surreal surreal is that that we've done shows in conjunction with an n._b._a. Team and an n._h._l. Team but that should not be the case but but somehow it is but the most surreal bill is when i got a call from bruce and he said hey are you alone and i said well just me and megan and he says okay. Can you call me back when you're alone and i'm thinking <hes> okay. I have to be more alone than i am with monica person okay so sure enough. I call him back about an hour later and he says i got a call. They want us one. What does that mean. They want to put us on the w._w._e. Network and before our committee anything i said i needed to talk to you and first of all about dropped the phone like what does that mean. They want us for the then. They wanna put our podcast on the network will okay what what. What does that mean like. We can't say this can't say that no now. He says we can say whatever we want. Okay who is he. You know who he is so vince called and said he wants you on the network and we can say whatever we want yep and they're they're not gonna. They're not gonna give us a list of words like how can say bill and i can say hospital. I'll have to say championship and medical center and he laughed and said dogs or whatever you want. We'll well. I mean we're gonna talk about dave meltzer and rumor and innuendo and stuff. They don't like he's like yeah. I think that's what they want so sure enough we go back and forth and eventually intially a contract is in place in our l._l._c. has a deal with w._w._e. And they invite us to come to the hall of fame because they want to get a shot of us in the crowd and announce that we're going to be on the w network and the shot and the crowd doesn't really happen <hes> but they they show the graphic thick and i knew that they were going to make an answer in the hall of fame sira member tweeting something like i have a feeling much twitter about to blow my notifications are about to blow up dot dot dot and then of course it did and everyone assumed oh that's the end of the podcast but they assume that when bruce announced that he was going to impact or it was announced that bruce was gonna it'd be on impact. Oh that's the end of the podcast. The podcast didn't die when we did a live show. It didn't die when bruce wednesday impact didn't die when we did the w w network deal <hes> it's still not add and i don't know how you guys have have hung in there with us for three years so far but we've had so much fun. John and yes things have changed a little bit. You know we got a call from vice and they wanted to see if we had any interest in participating and dark side of the ring and of course bruce and air were all over that for season one but now as they're taping season two well both of those guys work for w._w._e. So they won't be on the dark side of the ring in something else. They're not going to be on moving forward to star cast which was a total spin off of what we're doing here. I'll never forget. I had so much fun at the end of legends fan fest that greg price on twenty thirteen fourteen fifteen sixteen when it was clear he wasn't going to seventeen. I pitched bruce on hey. Let's do a wrestling podcasts convention. We could have the ric flair show and we could have you know kevin sullivan and wake. You've have jim cornet and you know we can have. Jim ross bischoff. He thought that was the worst he'd never ever heard would go to something like that. Nobody's going to go to something like that and i'll show the idea fast forward though and i bump into cody rhodes at the international baggage claim in january of two thousand eighteen. He's coming back from wrestle kingdom. I'm coming back from a vacation in mexico and we start the text messaging and then eventually i say what about and i fade star cast and that was a huge success and it got a lot of attention inside and out of w._w._e. And you know we had a lot of fun. There in verse was a big part of that. We did the roaster <unk> richard and we did a debate with him and eric bischoff and <hes> that wrestlemainia. We got pitched with the idea of doing a tour of the u._k. Together which was a huge success and then. I'll never forget this january anywhere just a few months ago. I guess it's been seven months ago now. You and i are at breakfast in san diego. California and bruce tells us i. I think i'm going to sign a deal with w._b. To be a consultant yup yup you had that reaction. I looked at you. You looked at me and we were like well. This was fun and all of a sudden. I found on myself being like a lot of the tweets whenever one of these milestones happened. I'm like well fuck. That's the end of the podcast. I mean there's no way they're gonna let you do this. If you're a consultant and the very next thing he said was they don't care if i keep doing the podcast in fact they want us to and i can imagine that that has something to do with the attention attention we bring the network i mean they see spikes on their end. It's no secret while we got the network deal where we're getting more down than everybody. Lots of people are going to be mad that i said that that's just just a fact <hes> and then secondly it was all centered on stuff that was on their network so we're not talking to somebody out of the wrestling space interviewing our buddy or or talking about music or horror films or whatever we're only talking about stuff. That's on the network not anything it's not on the network and you know they could see big spikes in traffic and in meltzer used to report in the newsletter hey here these were the top ten most wash things on the network this past week and you could see hey wallace randomly halloween havoc nineteen ninety eight in their whilst because tony shivani covered it wasn't the twenty year anniversary. It's not even october hct <hes> there's no reason that this should have been this popular nothing from hogan the warriors and the headlines today <hes> no reason it should be training but it was and it was because of the podcast all castes so w._b. Took note of that and eventually they offered him a job as a consultant and i mean less than thirty days later. I got the call hey are you alone. We need to talk and that's it tells me that vince offered him a job. Come back and be fulltime essentially be his right hand man and of course i know everybody's going to debate what i just said again but you know whatever and when it comes out that he's going back and he's going to be full-time and he's probably gonna move to connecticut again. I had to think i mean he's talking to keep doing the podcast. What was your reaction. When you found out bruce was going back full-time was that the consultant one was kind of a little breathtaking in like oh my god dude that's awesome full-time was kind of the the gulp moment and because fulltime in and <hes> vince mcmahon's world is twenty four seven no joke and it was like oh my god this could possibly end and <hes> that was my fear now of course <hes> the yok. It's never going to end and we figure out times went to do it but when he said he was going full time it was a goal moment. It was like oh crap up this is this is legit now. This is for real and <hes> things are gonna change and was they did and <hes> it's been in. It's been wild. It's been it's been crazy having bruce full-time over there now because finding time in carbon time out of bruce's day as as you know is very difficult because he is legit the right hand man. He is the the last word before you you meet the chairman chairman. He is <hes> the mover and shaker now over there and he in denial until until blue in the face but that's that's what he does now so so yeah. It's been different in and yeah it's been. It's been wild well. What was weird to you. You know luck in two thousand seventeen for instance. We didn't do show until april but we did ten that year and so we did. We did way more in twenty eighteen. I mean we were on the the road a ton in twenty eighteen and it looked like twenty nine team is going to be even busier we had mapped out a full schedule and i think they were going to be something like you know fifty offs something to russell's not every weekend because we would double up some and some of them would be a tour overseas so either weather there. We're going to be fifty. Live shows this year <hes> but the last i live show wound up being stark asked to i wanted to honor all of his commitments which he had made prior to signing that deal with w._b._z. Which included a a solo tour of australia which he was thrilled to do and then the last live show star cast to and of course bruce would say even now off south last live show but i don't see see when he's going to have any time to schedule another one anytime soon and i guess we should mention that the other thing that changed a long time ago is bruce's no longer able to call and thank you for making a t shirt order the t shirt order sales went through the roof and his tom win in the gutter so there was there was just no time but now you know here's where we are. The show has changed a lot and what's changed even more than that is. The lives of the people will who are involved in the show. There's a ton of folks behind the scenes that make all of this possible <hes> like steve kaufman who handles our youtube so if you've been enjoyed listening to these shows on youtube. That's one hundred percent steve kauffman. Nobody else is ever even touched it. If you enjoy the fun graphics and the look look and feel of the show that is without exception dave silva every single. Tom and it's one of the things that has made our show unique and special <hes> the guy who has helped put together the majority of the formats these last two years is chris wars inskeep he sort of the unsung hero of something to wrestle where a lot of the research he and i will discuss ahead of time. Hey let's use this book and these issues and this shoot interview and here's sort of a story we're trying tail and he'll do a data dopp and sort of compile all of this and then it's up to bruce an artist sorta sort through it and turn it into a show but he definitely only helped put together the structure of the show and if you've ever seen a funny video it's from a a superfan just made random videos for us and then became part of the family and chris mcdonald crystal super loki guy and probably doesn't like that. I'm even saying his name right now but if you're if you're on twitter you need to go follow him at k. Dog ninety six. I think he's the most fucking talented dude and wrestling nobody talks about and i know he would say he's not in wrestling and a lot of people say always not in wrestling but he's put together. There's so many professional videos and packages and things like that that <hes> he's the man. I don't know what else and along the way you know. We met matt kuhn soon. The first time i met mack was that same i live show with you. He had just on the new theme song to the show and i still think it's one of the best theme songs to the show. I think the only one that's better editor what happened win and guess what matt kuhn did that one so before matt kuhn and ruined everyone else's podcasts. He was actually helping with hours here and he was one of the first guys to jump on and say man. I want to be a part of this. I i believe in you guys doing and there's lots of other unsung heroes. Oh you know behind the scenes. <hes> a lot of the venues were booked by either jeff jones. Who's now with a._w._s. Or scott hi who i think is pretty involve a black table pro and scott. Hi has negotiated every hotel deal. We've ever had for star cast and star cast wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for something to wrestle and neither would any of this other craziness this happened but the the really cool thing is the behind the scenes relationships that have been created needed as a result of this podcast look. I've got friends not just all over the country but all over the world now you know not just interesting but outside a wrestling and you know so many people people who i never thought i would have an opportunity to me. I met because the podcasting like getting a d._m. From rick rubin's pretty fucking cool and scott coker koker following you on twitter and you know when i'm putting together the roast of ric flair. I was talking to dana white pretty regularly about trying to appear. I know this is all surreal and it's not supposed to be the case but the really cool thing is the interpersonal relationships like you now. Now not only got on that plane matt to strangers you. Quit your job and do this fulltime now. Yeah yeah yeah <hes> from a plane ride and crossed fingers to doing it every day. Now it's it's it's crazy what happened in three years but <hes> you're right the relationships that have been built behind the scenes between all of us and and <hes> especially <hes> our support staff that you just listed with steve and chris and and chris and matt and ed now joe joe and <hes> everybody that has had a hand in making this a success the relationships have been so great in my personal life and in the direction. We've been growing it. I couldn't imagine doing anything else and splitting up to time with television news and everything that we wanted to accomplish through something arrested with which turned into what happened when which turned to eighty three weeks which turned into grilling with j._r. <hes> there was no denying that i had to had to decide to make a choice and <hes> and this makes me happy i love. I love doing this every day. I don't in it's hard because they don't see it as work because i'm having so much fun doing it and having the creativity to just be silly as i wanna be with graphics or with whatever project were working on and and <hes> you can't ask for a better situation in a lot of people a lot of people give me a hard time because i would say i'm living my dream and i'm living the dream but it's so true it's so true that this this whole this whole story started with you you and bruce on the couch telling stories and the impact it's had on all of our lives <hes> professionally as <hes> emotionally of written through <unk> friendships. It's been it's been wild. It's been it's been such a huge huge. <hes> experience that i'm so lucky to have been have been a part of it is a part of 'em is. It's something that i cherish something that my family churches and i'm just so grateful yeah and there's lots of you know fun. Stuff happens sort of behind the scenes. You know it's always been fascinating to me. The people you know support the show as much as they do in the super phantom they do like royal rumble two thousand seventeen that weekend <hes> a great friend of the show now named nicholas weiland inland took my giant cardboard cartoon cut out and got it all over t._v. And and that was so fun fine and random and that continue whenever someone would take a sign for us or one of our heads or our t. shirts get it on t._v. Or corey graves. I would listen to the show and and give a little shout out here there. If you're listening you would catch it and then pope did it over on impact when he was doing commentary with josh matthews and i think once when in <hes> a new day dressed up as akeem brother love so kofi dressed up like brother love and they put <hes> biggie in the akeem name the african dream outfit. Is he skipping down. The ramp. Correy says that's not the african dream. That's the that's the alabama dream that was like my daughter kansas. Who you mentioned earlier she thought nothing i did was cool or interesting at all and then when choreographs alabama dream she starts jumping up and down like dad. That's what your name name is on the podcast right that was super cool. You know and it should not we. It's not cool to admit that these things are cool. People are going to butcher marks okay cool. <hes> my kid was happy. It was awesome. Fuck off. I just <hes> it's it's weird to think about you know not just the the milestones allstone that we hit on the show but the friendships behind the scenes you know and and you know this. There's a there's a group chat that has really been at the start of all all of this stuff <hes> and even heard some of the folks. I'm about to mention here. Referenced on the show like bruce does a funny voice for in clint from her yeah she. That's really my real life best friend my best wrestling friend anyway <hes> since i was a kid <hes> clinton i don't have a tone in common but we do have professional wrestling in common and we've had uncommon sense eighth grade so he's like my best wrestling friend dave hancock who you know when i first met him. I don't think was really dig in everything that he was doing in his professional life now. He's doing a lot of stuff in the wrestling space and a lot of that came from just running social media for our counts and now he's doubled down on that and and martin nielsen and and his <hes> better half alison are big parts of star cast and of course everybody listening this knows about casio kid a big buddha judy and and how they've been a big part of what we're doing as where jay z and his wife chelsea and you can see them at pretty much every star cast event and super dave even eric rotten crotch who steals probably the best big boss man 'cause play dude ever do truck in jeff jewett doodoo trucking dot dot com jeff jewish has been a great resource for us and we mentioned jeff jones and chris mcdonald and on and on and on it's just been <unk> surreal to see how this thing has grown and the personal relationships and there's maybe knowing that are more <hes> coincidental. I guess guess with something to wrestle then my relationship with my now wife <laughter>. We had our first date three years ago today. So our are very first date was the day that something to wrestle launched and nobody would have predicted three years later that bruce would have an office down the hall from vince fucking mcmahon and then i would be married to megan what a a lot has changed in three years. Here's my friend. A lot has changed. That is a huge understatement so lives have changed and we appreciate you guys. You know joining us for this rod. It's been a fun ride and i know that this was an unexpected show and i know you're thinking what the fuck or something wrestle without bruce bishop well. We got bruce <hes>. He's about to be jumping on a plane to pittsburgh. I think he's on vince mcmahon's jet again. What a fucking small <music> all world what a strange world we live in <hes> but here we are and we appreciate you supporting us and and appreciating what we were doing and putting your money where your mouth was whenever we came to your town and supporting our show and buying a ticket and doing a meet and greet and buying a t shirt and it's just been overwhelming the amount of support that we've gotten and the opportunities that this is created you know for me. It was other podcasts with with jim ross and eric bischoff and tell us your body and soon to be arn anderson. I don't know that we've announced that officially here on something to wrestle but arn anderson and i plan to start a tuesday podcast in the fall so they'll be five days a week. A podcasts for me and star cast is still a thing coming up in just a few weeks chicago. It'll be our third one and that's the last one on the books but never say never gas. Nobody could have predicted that this would be where we were three years ago dave but i appreciate you have in the faith and confidence and and must like bruce did and say hey. Let's try this on one aunt and <hes> the results have been more than i think anybody could have ever predicted well you. I know my friend how much i appreciate you and <hes> you took a chance on me. You know like could've been a dud <hes> <hes> straight out the gate and dan <hes> and you take a chance on me and and has changed my life shows changed my life legit and i can't say thank you enough to everyone that listens every week everyone that enjoys the graphics everyone that makes it a point to come out to live shows when we when we were going strong or that come out to star cast and and <hes> just because it all started with something to wrestle with to come out to stark acid live from all over the world legit to just i have a chance to be a part of the magic that the show started and <hes> and it's just been. It's been fantastic to be a part of this of this family. Well thank you everyone for participating and supporting us and we hope that you are digging what we're doing and you'll stick with us. This is not goodbye or not going away. We're not going on hiatus. We just wanted to drop a little retrospective about where we've been for the last three years and <hes> our former great close personal friend matt kuhn who abandoned us for the medusa in dutch mantel and robbie e podcasts has put together. I don't know why you're laughing. That's that's the real story. He put together a great series of clips that we're gonna roll into now where it sort of us just talking about the major milestones in real time as they happened and you know if you're looking for tremendous wrestling content probably not at this week but if you <hes> appreciate she ate the camaraderie between myself from bruce prichard and really feel like you're part of something to wrestle family. We can't thank you enough and we hope you'll dig. What cocoon has put together here for you <hes> from episode one two now and there's no telling man win. This thing is going to wind down but i don't think it's going to be anytime soon because bruce and i have been talking about big ideas and we've got some big lofty goals and as we've always said here on the show especially with bruce and i never say never so without further ado let's get to <hes> some clips from the very first something to wrestle with bruce prichard from the territories to tighten towers to t._n._a. And all points in between seen and done it all and now now he's here to share the real story behind wrestling's biggest moments of controversies and characters the m. l. w. radio yeah. No it presents something to wrestle with bruce prichard. Hey it's gone thompson and man. We've got something great for you today here on the m._l._b. W radio network. It's the debut episode of something to wrestle with with bruce prichard and man. I'm excited about this. One bruce getting to know you over the last year and just pick your brain has has been the highlight of my wrestling phantom and now we get to share it with the entire podcast world. What's going on bruce. Oh hey man. I don't think you're half is excited as i am for me to re the enter into the world of podcast and i'm excited to bring you something to wrestle with bruce richard and we're gonna get into some old stories. We're going to get into into what's going on in the business today. Have a little bit of fun along the way so our format for this show is unlike anything you've ever seen before the podcast. We're going to dig in unreal deep on one specific story a week and this week. We've got a great one what happened when dusty went north and we're gonna talk all about when dusty rhodes i left jim crockett promotions and went north to vince mcmahon and company in the w._w._f. Polka dots all that ensued after really probably the most indepth discussion about that ever from someone who was there and that's what makes this show unique almost every other podcast out there is through the film or the filter of what the newsletter was or what a rumor was what the innuendo was. This is going to be the full story something you've never heard before and we're going to do one of these per week. Hey conrad thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle with with bruce prichard <hes> bruce. I'm excited to be back man. We got a lot of great feedback after montreal episode last week. You know what i'm so excited. I get humbled as i've said before. How many people are listening to the show. I love the feedback positive and negative and <hes>. I hope that we're pleased in our audience out there well. I'm excited to <hes> to be a part of this one. We had a lot of fun last week with kind of an impromptu poll that we just kind of brainstormed in stormed and thought hey this'll be fun and the people spoke and they wanted to hear about montreal and i know when you see that you think not this again but i feel like we had a different different approach. I had fun with it kinda talking about what led up to the situation that happened and we did it again this week we during all and we're going to try to make that habit. We're going to do it every every week. During role to kinda take pole and let you guys dictate. What do you wanna hear next and you voted this week and or go into one of your favorite topics terrain about about the brawl for all my favorite topic to rant about because i get a bitch and moan and complains. Apparently that's what i do best well. Let's let's address. Ask or something else you wanted to kind of introduce into the show as you wanted to address some of the questions and some of the feedback that we get through social media about the previous week's topics wchs <hes> so let's go ahead and address anything and everything that you would like to talk about based on the reaction. We got from social media about montreal. I guess number one. Are you saying that bret hart is a liar absolutely not and you know people no matter what you say they're going to twist your words and make you say whatever it is. They perceived that you said but no. I never said the bret hart is a liar simply said is people that have read different things or heard different things from from various sources including books written by people they take that as fact and you have to take all of those things that are written and reported with a grain of salt because because they're not always one hundred percent accurate and actually factual so somebody had mentioned about brett's contract and what have you you in there simply reporting on what was written in a book or what was written by a dirt sheet rider that really has no knowledge of the situation nations other than what they heard and or were told so you have to keep those things in mind and also keep in mind that is i'm going through all of this. I'm giving in my opinion. I'm giving you my take on things and how they affected me. At the time twenty years later years later twenty years later with no research search were just sitting down freestyle and then you know people want to pick it apart which i get. That's what makes us points. I'm not complaining about that specifically though let's dig into what you're talking about <hes> when we're talking about the contract issue with brett there was supposedly inbred did right in his book the creative control on his way out so the last thirty days of his contract whenever he was leaving w._w._f. He would have creative control as if any of that mattered <hes> you know vince will still going to do what vince did there's. There's a lot of other people who question hey. Are you saying that you thought vince would or brentwood steal the title and when they say title i think they mean belt. I don't think they're anybody's really concerned about five thousand dollars set of metal plates and leather it was more so the the title of champion so if you leave undefeated then you're the real you take that lineage with you and k faye not like you legit stolen item. You just left the champion is is that fair to say sure it is and it's about the brand and you've invested so much in the brand in the championship and the person behind it again you you gotta get your investment back in. That's just good business in. It's simply business. It's nothing personal and it's something that men's had to do to protect all of us. A lot of people get caught up on what their perception of the show was in terms of the perception that you and i use specifically of course horseshoe of the star of the show. I'm just the the button pusher <hes> took vince his side so to speak <hes> as if to say that there was was assigned to take instead of us just talking about a situation so to clarify you do believe that vance backed up on his word when he gave breath that that contract <hes> because he was not able or willing to honor that contract and then that led to brett's decision. It's not as if britain has just a bad guy for the sake of being a bad guy. Something unfortunate happened then something else. Unfortunate happened exactly and frankly it was a situation where prevents the situation change thence was not able to afford him invents looking out for breath and this is how i see it vince vince looking out for brett gave him an opportunity to negotiate with the opposition with w._c._w. At the time to get himself a better deal so initially in the negotiations when they made the twenty year deal i it was about money. It was about getting a better deal bill and meant saw. This is an opportunity i can't. I can't afford that right now so i'll tell you what you can go back to w._c._w. See if there's was interest and get yourself a great deal and if you can do that and i can help you do that more power to you so it was two fold. Hey it's helping vance dance and that he's gonna lose that huge chunk of money from the payroll but it's also going to help bread enabling him to get reportedly you know more than three times the money that he was making on a yearly basis so it's a really good situation financially from brad lots of people you know online or confusing accusing the character of bret hart in his career versus the person who actually had to file taxes and the person who filed taxes did a lot better under <hes> then then people may be imagined in this deal the as far as you know did breadth su <hes> events over this i. I don't think so i'm i you know i didn't think i just wanted to assure <hes> real quick before we talk about this <hes> much more because i know we want to get <hes> broth for all there was a debate as to if the roles were reversed and showing was brett would would vince have screwed showing are because of their personal relationship he of agreed to the schmaltz finish. If sean relieving name will sean refused sean relieving. I would imagine that events would have done the same thing. I thought so too. I mean that's you know people. People forget that part of the enduring part of sean invents and their relationship happened to be montreal and sean willing to do what what was a very difficult thing to do in playing his part in that whole deal well so this is what makes this show fun. You know we get into great detail and then we're going to follow it up each week and get into maure detail not the guy hey well. I'm sorry how about the guy because you and i discussed this offaire. <hes> after the fact that commented about a rick rude and jerry briscoe tussle and never happened rude and briscoe were good friends throughout their career and absolutely positively one hundred percent did not take place. No i don't know where that came from for how that ever came about no physicality with briscoe or brad either correct. No the only physical stuff that we've heard about is all we've heard about and that's that's that's brian and vince right okay <hes> and with me today of course is the master of ceremonies mr bruce prichard. What's going on man well. I'm the guy <hes> with yeah. That's me a good to be here man. We we are the the most downloaded podcast on the m. l. w. radio network. Thank you everyone for for making us at yeah. Here's the deal we're humbled with the surge of support. We've gotten online and we want to be the most fan friendly podcast around and so we enjoy interacting with you on twitter and we love your suggestions <hes>. Let's keep this thing going man. We want this show to be what you want it to be <hes> so follow us on twitter. He's averaged pritchard. I'm hey it's conrad. Our show. Account is at pritchard show and you needed to throw us a follow because if you use hashtag love to know your you have the ability to nominate a topic topic that we're going to cover tell them how the poll works i well. It's really simple. It comes up on monday and we're gonna be doing it in the afternoon so that the folks overseas in europe can invoked and we keep it up until three am stateside so that our folks on the left coast in california can also vote in on west west coast time so you participate you vote and then the winner is the topic that we're going to cover that friday right here on something to wrestle with and if you listened and you haven't subscribed yet please subscribe leave us a review rate us and let us think of the show that continue to spread the good word. We've had a huge surge over the last few weeks and it's because you guys are digging again what we're doing and that all comes back to the poll so be sure to follow us pritchard show we wanna keep giving you the content that you enjoy <hes> we're humbled by the overwhelming coming response and we love your feedback so throw us those follows on twitter and you're listening to something to wrestle with. I here's what's going on man. How are you. I'm doing great. How are you doing man. I love <hes> the big long pregnant falls and then your name and a whisper. It makes me happy. Be glad it makes you happy by god. You're the only one <hes> but i know first of all you wanted to give some shoutout so go ahead and give some shout outs to some folks who you just learned earned our big podcast listeners well. I got to give a big shoutout to my buddy. John paul shell nut the third from america's georgia. Now residing in houston texas says in of course ellwood francis who is the guitar technician for billy gibbons z. z. top and they called me the other night and let me know this. It's something to wrestle with bruce pitcher. Is there a favorite podcast and they listen to it on the bus and that it they're loving it and they can't wait for it to drop on fridays right here on a._m. L. w radio network and they just called tell me how much they love it so big shoutout ellwood big shout <music> out to j. p. shell nut and billy gibbons and dusty hill and frank beard and all those guys z. Z. top love you guys all and it's always a blast to hang <music> out with them. I also want to shout out to the blue meaning brian hefferin who <hes> actually go ahead and listen to the show and then tweet about it we appreciate his support fort thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle with bruce prichard sikkim you man well. Listen listen. You shouldn't be sick of us. You need to subscribe on. I tunes. That's where you can find this podcast each and every friday right here on itunes. Don't miss it. Tell your friends to subscribe bob and then watch it that new bruce then they should rate and review us and leave us a nice big five star review because that's the best and that's how we think of you. We think the best for listening to us each and every week so speaking of star ratings we should talk about a little housekeeping for two topics and then we'll get into this hashtag what happened when bruce went to t._n._a. I was surprised this actually won the pole but i'm glad it did told you so. I was not looking well. You've rigged it. I mean when rig it. You promoted it last week. I did exist. Put it on there and that's what happens when you leave me to my own devices with only a cell phone phone in my hand and you know i'm technology challenged. It's true <hes> the people who are accusing you of ring the poll. I find hilarious you just learn how to tweet and do a poll and now you know how oughta rhythm nothing. Everything's a rib. I got nothing speaking of ribs per wrestling tease dot com forward size for his richard. Don't put a t in his name but put a tea on your back at pro wrestling tease dot com forward slash bruce richard embar god that is not a rib. It's not and you can say that you were there air when bret screwed bret and you might be listening to some of these angles. We're gonna talk about a little later and wonder who wrote this shit well. It turns out that bruce wrote this shit and you're gonna love of the rest of this show. Let's get into it right now. <hes> but in the meantime go ahead check it out pro wrestling dot com for richard shirt thing to wrestle with. I pressure on man harry. You just a box of fluffy dogs. How the hell are you man well. Let's do a little peek behind. The curtain bruce's being kind on. He's not feeling well. Bruce has dementia and this may or may not be our best show ever because maybe he's delusional on meds. Maybe he doesn't feel good but we're going to do our our best to entertain you for the next however many minutes <hes> we've been saying we want to keep these shows short but last week bruce we went nearly three hours <hes> <hes> something that was brought to my attention this week already stone cold steve austin the innovator in all things wrassling podcast actually addressed our show and you specifically earlier this week and part two of his jesse ventura interview certainly worth listen if you'd like to check him out you can do that online but he mentions shinzo that a fan wrote in and he answered the question that said he was not contrary to what you said are n._c._w. Show he was not under contract to the w._w._e. When he went to work with the c._w. They had an offer to come in as a mechanic character. He turned it down. He went as an independent over to paulie and then eventually made his way to the w._w._f. As the ringmaster and i'd like to give you an opportunity to kind of clarify hit the reset button backup and whatever you say fit well. I don't know anything about a mechanic character at all but and steve was not under contract with us at the time that he went to e c w byun apologize if that's how that came across to anybody steve included steve's a friend of mine consider stephen friend at the time that was there that was at a time that we we're taking care of paul to make sure that talent you know that was out there that they went to him versus w._c._w. And steve coming off w._c._w. <hes> you you know he he wasn't ready to come into w._w. At the time and i'm glad everything worked out the way it is. I apologize if anybody especially steve. They took that the wrong way and if i said it that way that i was wrong thompson and you're listening to something wrestle with the bruce richard bruce willis gone harry. It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood by god coming to you live from the conrad studios here in huntsville huntsville alabama man. I got to tell you this is something i've wanted to talk about for a long time. It was my very favorite angle from nineteen eighty nine. I was those baby at the height of my phantom of incident a couple times on the show eighty nine and ninety seven where my absolute favorite years <hes> growing up in nineteen eighty nine and one of the big parts parts of course our man of the hour what happened when no-holds-barred zeus a runaway winner this week why i have a merry christmas well you can have yeah by christmas. I got to say you didn't think this topic would win. <hes> <hes> you know off air you kind of tell me thought that the evolution of creative would win but nailed it it was i was somewhat pulling for you was your favor of course it was because you put it at the top of the pole like you. Do you tried to skew view viewers and now this week at the end of the show. You get to pick the topics for next week yeah. Since i won incense zeus one not only did he win the battle the tough guys. He won the pole this week to stay tuned at the end of this show. We're going to give the topics for next week. This is the most fan friendly podcast around at the end of this show. We're going to give you four topics. We're going to throw it on our poll. That's on twitter. It's at pritchard show tune in this sunday night. We'll go ahead and throw the pole topics up and at the end of the show. We're going to kind of break down what we're picked and why they're on the poll this week <hes> but i i guess we should go ahead and before we talk about zeus. We should talk about things that we've already talked about <hes> a little bit of follow up for mar mar sunny episode last week while i got a lot of feedback you oh tons. I think most of our listeners enjoyed it. Yeah most being the operative word. I got a couple of calls that weren't superfund to get <hes> and i guess <hes> this has kind of what's the thing used to say telephone loan telegram taylor wrestler. Apparently that's gotten around and i wanna be very clear here. <hes> i can't state this clearly enough for the record we did not intentionally intentionally accidentally or in any way shape or form in my estimation vary. The heartbreak kid sean michaels last week. Would you agree the man that i consider to be the greatest worker in the business. <hes> he is number two on my list number one in mind so he's number one and number two on most and while we have covered some topics in the past about his in entering stuff <hes> the sunny episode did veer into some personal territory and we count ashamed her for airing some of that dirty laundry i was quite disgusted with the whole thing thing but i've kind of been taken to task now <hes> more than once for covering that story on sunny <hes> it's going to be pretty fine no and with email w and something to wrestle with richard and we should also mention that you're doing personal appearances we get lots of private messages on twitter if you'd like to book bruce for a personal appearance or if you'd like to advertise on this show <hes> you don't have to go through some fancy corporate team you can come straight to bruce <hes> something to wrestle with at a._o._l. Dot com <hes> that's something to wrestle with at a._o._l. Dot com if you'd like to book bruce for personal appearance <hes> or if you'd like to advertise on the show you can speak directly with bruce bruce something to wrestle with at a._o._l. Dot com and we need to give a big. Thank you to everybody who downloaded the survivor series nineteen ninety episode <hes> that was the the the show from last week if you're listening to these in order and as far as i know bruce i think that was our third most downloaded show in the history of immel. W is that right. Wow oh wow it's absolutely incredible responses that we've been getting on these shows and you know we say it every week and it just warrants means said i thank you guys i so much for listening to the show. I'm glad you're liking it or disliking. I'm glad you downloading it and enjoying it and talking about it. We love doing it and like like conrad said earlier support our sponsors support us and we're going to keep doing it and have some fun with this thing but it just blows me away the response and wrestle with burst richard what's going on man. How are you got a thought. Oh versus thinking this is dangerous where we go on with us here me out on this when hear me out on this and i'm thinking the they need to change the name of the l. w. radio network okay <hes>. What should it be now c._b._n. The conrad bruce network between the two of us. We we pretty much dominated the airwaves of m. l. w. If i wasn't on a show you were on it and then l. We did one of them together again on. I did <hes> bischoff show this week. Ah like another something to wrestle with. When we gotta do the rick flair show this week to address some things that we wouldn't normally address on something to wrestle with yeah. It's been fun this week and <hes> this has been. Maybe a record week for both of us for podcasts you on bischoff myself on the flagship show and now we both did rick's show the rick flair show on wednesday night and now here we are on probably the crown jewel of the mobile radio networks something to wrestle with. I don't know that anybody saw this coming but <hes> here we are <hes>. I'm sure everybody thing is already tired of us this week but too bad <hes> this is going to be a along episode. This is one of my favorite topics. I was a huge vader fan and he's all in the news <hes> this week so before we get into that though let's do a little housekeeping from last this week and then kind of deliver what we promised last week <hes> i didn't get much <hes> follow up on the bron- pilmer episode. I feel like we kind of covered everything thing. Normally there's a half a dozen things. People want us to kind of circle back touch on but i didn't get a lot that we need to kind of button up on pill men. Do you have anything we should go over over the there's a reason for that ladies and gentlemen and i should just say gentlemen because ninety nine percent of our audiences now okay ninety all say ladies and gentlemen conrad thompson is the single most prepared in the history of podcast. I got a lot of positive comments for the most part people even like the link that was one of our longest was our along wasn't it. I still think t._n._a. May have been a little longer either way. I had a good time with it and we're gonna have good time <hes> this week but one of the things you mentioned last week that we promised we would address you as the big announcement this week so go ahead spill the beans. What's the big announcement you know where you're going to be on april first of two thousand seventeen <hes> well safer fools day so is this a real absolutely not a rib dot com and why not a rib dot com because next friday black friday if you're downloading this on friday next friday tickets will go on sale tickets tickets for what's on sale at at not a rib dot com for the very first something to wrestle with bruce richard and conrad thompson live dave in orlando wrestle mania weekend. You and i on stage were going to do a live show. We'll check it out friday november twenty fifth ten a._m. Eastern get your tickets at dot com and this is not a rib on saturday april first right after inex- t. so you're gonna be able to go ahead and instead of seeing your hall of fame on saturday night. This year is a little different the hall hall of fame on friday night inex- teas on saturday night so if you're going to see next t- you can come straight to our show. It's going to be a back booth thirty seven west pine on street right there in orlando and you're probably asking yourself. I am not sure where that is. Let me just go ahead and assure you. This is near everything going on when i say everything going on one it's right off of church street. There's lots of parking. You can walk there from the amway center at six minutes to block walk right in the heart of downtown downtown and this is a standing room only show. What's that mean to you. You're gonna be able to get a great seat. You're going to be able to enjoy yourself. You really gonna dig this. Come see us saturday april first twenty seventeen the doors open at eleven thirty so you're not gonna miss anything. If you go to next t it's not an either or type situation and this is not a huge venue so it will sell out. Get your tickets early. Get them friday november twenty six. That's next friday at ten a._m. Eastern so the show's going to drop on black friday at noon two hours before that you can go to not a rib dot com and come see something to wrestle with bruce prichard and conrad thompson awesome at the back booth in orlando wrestle mania weekend. I did you ever think this what happened. Absolutely i did and i'm excited about. I really am we're. You know what we're going to have be i._p. Tickets available where they get a meet us and take pictures autographs and all that stuff so that ought to be fun but that's that's a very limited number of tickets those up first. Nobody wants my autograph but i'll be there and i'm gonna be grill and brewery is. I'm looking forward to it <hes> i. I'm really appreciative of all the support that we've gotten with this show where amazed at the numbers that we say <hes> <hes> it's growing every single week. Hundreds of thousands of you are listening. That's overwhelming that brother freaking love and a mortgage guy has has captivated needed the wild waves. What industrial is to say. Give us a dusty two hundred. Maybe the blue aso captivate the country around the feel in love conrad and you get this brother love's pumpkin. He had squirm squirm. He's going to squirm when conrad take that his home big leah's the dirt sheet quotes from that david nafta nafta david meltzer in the jekyll from bomb tape but i heard and you'll be there you'll be there live. Hey conrad thompson and you're listening to something wrestle with bruce prichard on bruce. How are you today man. It is colder than a witches. You know what here in brenswick ends with texas well. It's it's not much warmer here in huntsville alabama and this is our christmas eve's eve thing addition of something wrestle with bruce prichard and this kind of went exactly how i expected you wanna go ahead and give a concession speech now. This is bullshit. There's my concession concession speech. I demand a recount and i'm going to work on getting my electoral college in order to go back recount of the votes and we'll see what happens when the electoral college vote houston wrestling liz again <hes> so does they smackdown after nine on eleven also from houston loses again sudden shotgun saturday night runaway victor this week just in time for christmas. It's an absolutely perfect addition of something to wrestle with bruce prichard and i'm pretty excited about this is i think a lot of our listeners are obviously based on the poll results. Mr perfect perfect was a one of a kind guy and we're going to get into that in great detail but before we do let's kind of circle back to last week's episode where we covered the nineteen ninety andy seven royal rumble verse. What was the feedback that you got from the show so far my my feedback was good but then again i only only read the good feedback i don't. I don't read the negative stuff well. I think <hes> it's obvious that <hes> we have a hit with no yob and you can be sure to go ahead ed and grab your no yob t-shirt at pro wrestling tease dot com forward slash bruce prichard sonnen. You're listening to something to wrestle with irs pitcher chris what's going on man. How are you well. I hope everybody had a very merry christmas and is ready for two thousand seventeen. I'm ready. I feel like a lot of us are more and more celebrity. Thirty deaths continue to stack up <hes> interesting to see how many people blame the year twenty sixteen twenty sixteen. It's your fault that all these celebrities. These are dying. It has nothing to do with anything else <hes> but before we get into this week's episode of what happened when brother love's decided to accused day come on <hes> we're wanna go ahead and put a bow so to speak on the mr perfect episode. One of our better received episodes. I think lots of mr perfect fans kinda won in a landslide. What was the feedback that you got. Overall bruce will got the the biggest feedback was was at houston. Houston got looked okay. No that's not the same feedback you got now. I didn't i did get a lot of people taking me to task thinking that i had a personal issue with brutus. It's the barber beefcake and didn't understand why i don't hate him. As a kid i was strutton and cutting. I had the little foam <hes> heads clipper things w._b._f. Supermarket has a kid obviously but i don't understand what i did. Hate was the booking <hes> decision to have mr perfect kind of lose his undefeated streak back to not a top guy and no matter what anybody says. You can't convince me that in him losing that first match to <hes> barber ever was smarter than him losing to warrior hoke and that should have been warrior hogan be perfect. No that's my story and i'm sticking to it. <hes> i happen to agree with you on that or you know folks you can you can you can mark it down in your calendars the last show of two thousand in sixteen. I agreed with conrad right off the bat. Hey speaking of the end of the year we should mention this is the time of year a lot of folks put together <hes> awards and <hes>. I can't believe this is the thing but sports illustrated gave us an honorable mention <hes> as the sports podcast of the year <hes> we weren't right right behind a phenomenal <hes> sports podcast. If you're into that called pardon my take it is a more traditional sports podcast but the wrassling podcast between brother love and the mortgage guy got the only honorable mention in the sports category for podcast hard to imagine extremely humbling outta out of the thousands and thousands of podcasts out there especially as you say in the sports genre that these two guys are just bullshitting oh shit and talking to each other every week and a good time. Get the only other war you know there was the podcast of the urine. There was one honorable mention and it was us and i'm extremely humble. I thank you and it's all due to the great fan base that we have. That's growing each and every week <hes> if you're not already subscribing to the show please do so subscribe to us on itunes. Leave us a review and rate us and we greatly do appreciate it but you know i say it. A lot and people probably think i'm working but it is humbling to think that many people that do download us and listen to us each week and communicate with us on twitter back and forth his blown me away and i'm very appreciative i love it and i get a talk to them. When they buy shirt pro wrestling tease dot com i call everybody that buys shirt and i get to talk to them and it's been a a lot of fun and it's been great so shout out to <hes> sports illustrator just an all the folks over there who've supported the show for a while we really appreciate <hes> being mentioned and in a sports podcast of the year award obviously we didn't win but by god the honorable mention for wrassling podcasts unexpected also unexpected we should shout out friend of the show doff ziglar sporting the rhythm t shirt at the madison square garden how show over christmas weekend cool list that blew me away when somebody sent it to me i was looking for the photo shop aspect of it and when i realized that it was a real deal. I thought that was cool. Shit so thank you dolphin in and of course dolphins a friend of the show he listens and appreciate it as has does several other folks are w._w._e. We try not to get too many of them in trouble by saying that they listen to the ship we appreciate each and everyone one of you out there when dolphins wearing the shirt at m._s._g. I think that <hes> people are putting it together. So let's name now. We won't miss hawkins or friend or will sasso or anybody else we know his last name shared out to drew galloway to who recently put us over on a podcast which just very nice of him in horn swat gell who came up with a great question for this week show that i'm actually going to save or a later time because is it was just too <hes> too funny to us. I hate conrad thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle with. It's your show. This is where you talk bruce. I was all oh prepare for a long pause air sit. I just get a bleep. Well listen. Here's the deal. I'm in control of ribs on the show. You're in control once disappoint time but since i'm the one with the recording device here <hes> i get i guess we'll call final edits and <hes> rib still rule. I'm alright oh without a doubt. They still rule in riba. Mania is running wild. This week marked the end of the ric flair show and we should just go ahead and address this here without the ric ric flair show bruce prichard now would not be doing this show right now. Is that fair to say that that is definitely say without ric flair. We wouldn't be doing this show right now. So i'll tell you that's true so i have a big data gratitude to extend the rent because as as you said wouldn't have met you we wouldn't be doing our thing right now so <hes> just to clear up any rumor innuendo nothing happened. There was no falling out now. Ones upset with anyone. <hes> rick is not in poor health. Everything's okay <hes> he's busier than a one armed paperhanger and it became something that was no longer is fun. <hes> when when his schedule got busier it became more of a chore in less of just a fun hobby and so when it wasn't as fun as it used to be rig didn't wanna do it and that's kind of the story. Sorry of everybody's interaction with rick fehr to savers sure it is in. It's also good to know that he's a whole hell of a lot busier in doing doing the things that he loves to do. In at some point something had to go yeah. That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Sometimes it's happened before it may happen again <hes> but to clear everything up rick signing for health. There's no falling out he and are still fine. He's not angry with bruce. Someone on twitter called you the yoko of our podcast group that you have somehow broken up the beatles here breezy yoko dan for men and i thought you were going to say yokozuna and i'm trying to figure hand the hill. There's yoko figuring okay now. I get it what the hell either way. I'm sure they probably they probably read that on dirt sheet somewhere already. They're probably all already reporting the rumour innuendo and conspiracy theories out there. Hey it's conrad thompson and and you're listening to something to wrestle with richard. What's going on man. How are view. I'm excited. What are you excited for well because finally it's the day man we had the most people ever on a pole and it was a gigantic tie so you know what that means. What does that mean. We talk about mantar. You know something into wrestle with bruce richard. What's going on man. How are you. I am absolutely absolutely excellent man. It's a beautiful day. It is a beautiful day and we're going to start this week off with a bang. We're going to do something we've never done before bruce and i guess technically this doesn't make us men of our word and makes us liars but we're doing something. We've never done before to start the show this week. We'll yeah because because something else with bruce richard there are no guests needed by god and actually it's not really a guest conrad because guest is someone that you you have to like right well. I guess i guess what we're going to start off with welcoming welcoming someone to the family. Let's put it that way because you sure as hell don't have to like your own family at least in my family. We don't get to pick your your family but you get to pick your friends. We've picked a great one. We're going to welcome to the w. radio family. It's the voice of wrestling below. The mason dixon send line from nine hundred eighty three two thousand one. Tony shivani is now a part of the immel w radio family what's going on tony. How are you a a of hey conrad and hey bruce and i just want to say i don't like you. Fuckers either start off on the right with a salty goddamn of attitude we don't have we don't tolerate that kind of language here on something russ with by god you fucking asshole. I am sorry sorry actually bruges. It's great to be talking to you again and conrad <hes> you were. You were my grandmother's favourite alabama fan well. I appreciate that. I know there was a lot of alabama fans. You can tied so great being on with you guys and <hes>. I'm very very excited about all this early well. Let's tell you what's going on. If you're listening to the show here you you obviously understand the format we go long form on one particular topic and we empower either listener to kind of pick what the topic is every single week as we stroll down memory emory lane from the golden era of the v._f. Into the attitude era and then even the more modern era ruthless aggression everything in between from bruce's tenure there from nineteen one thousand nine hundred seventy two two thousand eight but what if you lecture wrassling a little more southern what a few leaned a little more towards the mid atlantic era what if you liked maybe some things things w._c._w. Or jim crockett promotions. Well tony shivani and i are going to put together something. I think you're going to really dig. We call it what happened when mondays mondays and this is going to be every single monday right here on the immel w radio network and what happened when delfi on all those jim crockett promotions stories in world championship and ship wrestling stories and we're here to announce the debut of the show. Is this coming monday wrestle with in verse burchard reuss. What's going on man. How are you. I can't believe that we're actually getting to the point of doing our own show. Oh seems like everybody else. Show this last week and talked about every single thing else <music> but what's most important and that's something to russell with right here on the m. l. w. radio network. I wanna give everybody a huge. Thank you for our gigantic ganic number in january. We don't really keep up with that. You know we're trying to just put together as much content for you as we can and then at the end of the month i log in and look and said <hes> bruce. They're not going to believe this but like almost two billion people listen to our show last bond and <hes> to say that's humbling for bruce is a huge understatement. We can't thank you enough. I'm just a wrestling fan so the guys are even remotely. Les digging something. That's done by a fan. <hes> is incredible to me so i really appreciate you guys taking the time to check us out and tell your friends and leave us a review. You and we're just blown away by the response. I thank you very much done by the fan for the fan right. Is that something yeah and man. This is like bizarre for me this past week. The giant head of mine made royal rumble debut. I guess it was rumble entrant number thirty one sunan. You're listening to something to wrestle with bruce prichard bruce. What's going on man. How are you. I am absolutely splendiforous. I'm sure everybody who has the internet now wants to know or maybe they already know. How's how's your week been anything interesting for you universally great oh man you know all i have to say about that is meager and we'll leave it. At that time i g okay. I think i figured that out. Hey is this the craziest week you've been wrestling in a long time with the success s. of the houston show and then the huge success of wrestlemainia nine man. That episode did over three hundred thousand downloads in less than forty eight hours. We can't thank you guys enough somehow. He got really dug that one <hes> bruce and i really talk each other to task about the whole hulk hogan european tour. We had a lot of fun with it. If you haven't checked it out go so do it right now and people surprisingly really loved houston man lots of great feedback from that and now a couple of days ago the very controversial on fired episode road and we didn't even have to talk about what an impact thursday was for you so what we haven't even finished yet really really. I mean the different things that everything that is going on the last two weeks that we have had you're right man what an impact it has had on my i live and also yours too. It's going to get crazy. It's gonna get crazier to tom for a pulse this week. Bruce prichard bruce hale and brimstone is happening opening at the prichard compound. We're up against it. God does not wanna ask to release this show but we're going to fight through it. You know we're trying man yeah but i got tornadoes and everything going on around me. I got no internet but that's not going to stop us. We're ready to go man and we apologize if the quality is not not up to snuff of what it usually is for us by god. We're going to get a show out there this week. Come hell or high water. I got that in the backyard burst pressured and bruce. It's a special edition. It's hashtag love to know it's about a show and it is a bonus by god so <hes> go ahead tata's up. Are you feeling about the bonus show. How a guy here how it can do more of this well. Our great audience is what got us here because we asked them to do something for us. They didn't just deliver they over deliver deliver like they always do with over thousand surveys filled by our wonderful audience couldn't believe it but <hes> thank. Thank you very much in you. Did we asked you to do. We promise you a bonus show so here you go so we actually took to twitter and i asked you guys hey hey. What would you like to know what you the to know when genetic you know we asked you guys to go ahead and an ask us your questions on twitter so if you haven't already in your wondering about this well. Why aren't you following us on twitter. He is ambushed pritchard. I am a hey. Hey it's conrad and we've had this four hours now and we've done this once before but my goodness bruce we got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of questions russians some better than others but i'm looking at you made me stop looking at him. Conrad i started looking at some of these the goal what the hell and then when you said you know what man you need to just sit back and have a good time and what kind of time we're gonna have hashtag ashed tag. It's miller time <music> uh-huh ooh in the machine. Here's jalen hill. I when you say something wrestling gone read hey hey it's gone right thompson and you're listening to something wrestle with bruce prichard bristol sworn on man. How are you off absolutely excellent well. I'm in a better mood now. We got to hear a little bit. <hes> jeff jarrett sing along clip from our live show in orlando if you were confused as to what you're listening to the very end end of our show there in orlando we invited jeff jarrett on stage to sing what song exactly bruce in monday's working hard. You're on the go but hands on the clock cake man into slow. Okay wait to be alone with my baby tata. That's by the time mitch ever saying this thing live. I'm sure it was <hes> it was something special. Something unique and all of our live shows are going going to be exactly that so if you haven't seen we're coming to your area. Stay tuned. We've got details on that coming up soon. You never know who or what is going to happen. Hey hey it's conrad fred thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle with bruce prichard bristles going on man how are you. I'm absolutely great. How the hell are you. Are you doing an aba lamma yeah and got blown away by these damn tropical storms and everything well. I'll tell you man. It's been quite a week first of all. We should probably go ahead and thank everybody for coming out to our show this past weekend in baltimore just before money in the bank. I gotta say man. I had a blast. It's <hes> it's always overwhelming to say the level of support we get from from you guys and to meet our listeners. <hes> if i'm honest it's just kinda humbling that all of you wanted to spend your father's day with us <hes>. It's just a happy accident man. I'm just a fan dan. I really appreciate all the support that you guys are putting out there. <hes> bruce in are having a good time and we're so thankful that you're digging what we're doing and for coming to see us bruce. What'd let me think. I absolutely thought it was amazing. You know this was one show where i didn't really know what to expect because it was then kind of a different venue and and we had the great radio station there helping us out and dave brain helping us out but it was overwhelming the response and the people people that turned out they were they seemed happy and i got a lot of response back on twitter so thank you saint louis. Thank you everybody at south broadway athletic club. Thank you dave bring <hes> joe. Everybody involved and it was a good weekend. Yeah special thanks to <hes> five ninety the fan right there in saint louis <hes> k._f._i. N._s. joe and all the a fine crew over there hooked us up and <hes> we appreciate the hospitality and i look forward to going back to saint louis sometime soon kit. He sounded dangerous interest delicious at the same time. Hey folks dave silver here and we're twenty four hours away from richard this journey johnson. This is an exclusive event only twelve. That's right twelve listeners of something to wrestle with all you have to do. It's jumped on the facebook dot com forward slash something to wrestle to find out all the details and how you can be a part of the special events now. Let me tell you one thing indisciplined. You'll get three hours with bruce and conrad. Ask them all the questions you want. Take all the pictures. You want just have a blast. This is going to be breath experience for you. The fans don't let it pass you by jump onto facebook dot com forward slash something wrestle for more details and secure your you're spot matt thompson. You're listening to something to wrestle with merced pritchard and bruce. It's our one year anniversary for doing something special right now. There's like over a thousand people watching us tape. This show on facebook live love. It's a pretty big deal man to <hes> have a podcast last year. It's my third podcast and it's the first one to make it a full year so i'm feeling pretty accomplished today. Okay so this is your longest lasting podcast. I mean we need to do. We need to do like the paul heyman the vince mcmahon. It's the longest running episodic it conrad thompson weekly pot. He has like all these different caveats to make it sound like he's been around forever. Guest podcasts featuring cod up all podcast eight admit role or m. w.'s radio network. I go eight the microphone. It's a good way to get us started. Hey man you know i want. I just think everybody <hes> it's a big deal. <hes> that you're all listening and you have supported us the way you have a year ago bruce. Would you have ever imagined in a million years that this is where we it would be in the show would have caught fire. Lock has man imagine this a year ago. They said man if you guys could just do twenty thousand downloads that that that could get in the game well what was amazing to me is <hes> a year ago. There was a debate. Hey does anybody even know who bruce prichard. Is you know people know brother. Love but bruce prichard isn't a brand now <hes> you're over brother the fucking hottest name and podcasting kudos to you who the hell made that stupid argument well. I think that was me and may we were wrong. I've never been more happy to be wrong though to wrestle with bruce prichard bruce what's going on man. How are you just another day paradise here at the concert for well. I'll tell you what it has been. <hes> quite an eventful week in my life needless to say we want to send <hes> lots of love out to the nature boy himself. He's obviously had a challenging week this week and we wouldn't even be doing this show right now. If it weren't for ric flair would you agree with that. I wholeheartedly agree with that. I wouldn't wouldn't be where i am in life right now. If it wasn't for the nature boy ric flair meeting conrad thompson and and changed my life the way that you have but it all goes back all can be traced back to one rick flair and rick dismay just wishing you very speedy recovery and it's got along long you know obviously you know a lot more do but <hes> he's got a long hard road ahead of him and if anybody can do it he can do it. Absolutely he's overcome become bigger obstacles before and he'll do here. I apologize for not being as responsive on social media this week. I was bombarded with questions. I didn't feel like it was my place place to give those updates. <hes> charlotte is posting updates win. The family is ready to do that so i'm not ignoring you because i i don't like you. I'm ignoring you out of respect for the family so i hope everyone understands that hey it's connie thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle. Whip dip burs richard burst. What's going on man. How are you. I am absolutely excellent and i have to correct you. We are now the <music> own ward winnie best sports podcast of the year something to wrestle with richard. How about that batman so pretty big deal you know from this <hes> just being kind of an idea this time about a year ago now you went to the academy of podcasting and and <hes> they had the academy of podcasting awards yesterday and we have some stiff competition with <hes> show some e._s._p._n. Show from c._b._s. Shows from podcast one in a well established shows and here we are a couple of guys in a pool house and garage back into work kinda scary isn't it or discuss the show you man that anything can happen here in the world wrestling federation right well. That's that's what they say but anything can happen right right here. On something the rest with bruce sprecher god it was crazy man and just to be up. There took a minute before i realized i had to look up but the the big screen and had the logo up there and i was just kind of had to pinch myself a little bit to realize that was really that was really us. They like us man. They like us. Yeah and we really lock you guys man were. I'm still in shock doc that we've got these awards coming back to alabama and texas here at this is a real thing. Hey it's conrad thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle with breath out bruce prichard. It's the best of show this week. Bruce has been affected by hurricane harvey he and his family working to put together. Their small town of friends is what texas a suburb of houston and we're making this a best of brought to you ad free and breaking all the rules of the prichard show first of all the number one rule. No guests needed when we're breaking that right out of the gate. We're going to have guests all day and it's all about raising money for the hurricane relief effort. All you've got to do right now is go to love for houston. Dot com all you can know. Donation is too small every little bit helps and remember one hundred percent of that tax deductible and goes directly to the red cross cross and out encourage if you haven't already check out the brand new shirt over bruce prichard dot com. It's shaped like the state of texas. There's a little heart were houston goes and it's available in multiple colors and again one hundred percent of the proceeds go directly to the relief effort and we're gonna get you caught up to speed on all things something to wrestle today. We've got a few celebrity thirty friends who are gonna stop by and we're gonna play some of the very best moments on the show but i want to quickly recognized two of the guys who make the show possible if you've ever laughed or how to chuckle at some of the over the top silly graphics it's probably because of our main man here mr dave silva n._f._l. Enjoyed any of the musical selections mack koon probably put those together dave matt. How are you guys doing today doing real good buddy doing real good. I'm doing fantastic conrad. Thanks for having a song well. It's a big deal that we're kind of breaking the wall here and saying you guys they're gonna be guest. You're going to be helping me navigate through all these clips unless just start at the beginning. Let's get right into it thompson. You're listening to something new wrestle with richard. I what's going on man. Welcome back. How are you glad that the award winning something something to wrestle with bruce pressured by god and i'm i'm doing good. It's been it's been a crazy crazy days down here in texas by god but i got a thank. Thank everybody for reaching out. The huge support that we got from all of our fans not only donating to love for houston dot com. Thank you so very much aww also people going over to bruce richard dot com and getting our huston relief t-shirt frankly overwhelmed and it's a big deal. We really appreciate everybody coming together for love for houston dot com of course you spend the whole state of texas still needs all the help yes i. It seems like florida has i got an aide. Their fair share of helpless will all donations go directly to the red cross of course they're completely tax deductible and we urge you to give again over at love for for houston dot com and that's mentioned. We've got that special t. shirt over bruce pitcher dot com. You'll know when you see the shape of texas the scott the heart there or houston is has and one hundred percent of the proceeds there. I go to the hurricane harvey relief effort as well. I did you catch any of the best of shows that we post it. Of course we had i had one last week because you couldn't record and then we did a bonus show this wednesday for part two for our best efforts i listen to every single minute minute of the <hes> the first show with matt kuhn and i haven't had an opportunity to listen to the bonus show yet but <hes> i was overwhelmed around with the first show and i'm sure that i will be with this with the second one is well <hes> just the kind words and kind thoughts and reliving living. It's been a year conrad. What the hell yeah it has been a year and we really do want to thank everybody who came together to help contribute. You know we had <hes> <hes> you know some shoutouts from all the major players in professional wrestling eric bischoff said jim cornets and j._r.'s and and you know even the guys on the current roster zack ryder dolph ziegler hawkins drew mcintyre on and on just an overwhelming support <hes> everybody should get behind this. If you haven't already it's love for houston dot com and if you haven't checked out some of the best of episodes we encourage you to do so we finally got to play the hukou. She clip wrestle with when you first what's going on man harry. It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. It's all great and how the hell are more important. How are you doing man. I'm i am good. I have been busier than one armed paperhanger. You know i've got the podcast tony shivani every monday right here emotional radio <hes> check south if you haven't v._n. The and it's called a what happened win. It's all things roaches and w._w._f. <hes> and just last week i started a survivor podcast with the biggest he'll and in survivor history jonny fairplay check that out over at survival fareast so between all these free podcasts and doing some mortgages ooh ooh <hes> i have been off for cancer well. You know what you can do a lot so it's okay i have have to utilize and <hes> you guys are going to be a lot this weekend. Because there's something to wrestle. Special edition live show going down from detroit and our very special special. Guest is going to be mr jim. Cornet corn is going to be taking my spot and <hes> i feel like this might be the most legendary live show in the history of something the wrestler gotti museum right mother fucker 'cause he's gonna set bruce prichard stray. You never exactly know what the hell is gonna come out of corneas now so i'm looking forward to extremely because corny corny i have not seen each other since he fired me on and <hes> whatever the name of that show is and we've been friends for over thirty years and we have a ton of stories. We agree on a lot of things but we probably disagree on more things. Oh you didn't know you better call somebody gentleman woman boys and girls children of all ages tonight to degeneration x proudly brings to you one time and podcast champion of the world killer conrad. Tom's bad void the truce richer something to wrestle with those injured. You know you gotta call somebody. You were out go to the burs he did. Hey conrad thompson on your list thing to something to wrestle with verse richard bruce what is going on. What a week. We have had this week feeling brother. What a whiz eek nick all man. I you know what even when i was doing drugs and i don't think i could get any higher than i got this week. Man holy cow what a great week yeah great week indeed and i feel like we should remind everybody that you can keep up with the arcot sear something to wrestle dot com. If you missed it. We had a phenomenal episode so last week featuring the rock in his first two years in the w w we went from survivor series nineteen ninety-six all the way through the end of nineteen ninety gate and <hes> we had a fun little story in their jimmy over at sa thought was <hes> worth brighten up in article extra mustard section. Well you know oh that's just kind of what they do any kind of little tidbits if you will and you you just got to the wiz off his house. If you know what i'm saying awesome was that not only the jimmy right article he <hes> posted the tweet to twitter kind of promoting the article and the rock responded <hes> offering a comment and giving a shout out out to you and it's a pretty big deal when the most electrifying man and sports entertainment pushover right bruce well. You know yes without a doubt man. I and it's it's it's absolutely crazy and i was getting ready to say that this is the first time you and i've actually seen each other all week but i think through all of our different <hes> calls and text messages. I think that i could see the gigantic smile on your face and you could see the gigantic smile on my face all week long with all the just tremendous stuff <hes>. I feel like we should tell you right now. If you just want to hear about the new age outlaws skip ahead several minutes we're gonna spend about ten minutes putting ourselves over here but first of all we should go ahead and put over the man himself road dogg jesse james mr brian armstrong all the amazing intro this week. I know that's going to get everybody talking for sherbro but how fucking cole of that with him do that. How you did know ooh well <hes> absolutely tremendous emma thanks and heartfelt. Thanks go out to him. Greatly appreciate it and i thought it was a superb herb job. He outdid himself. He always does and they outdid themselves this week on smackdown <hes> my twitter machine blew up and i'm sure your ear to <hes> win some w._v._u. Superstars decided to dress up in halloween costumes in honor of halloween this past tuesday and a couple of members of new day kofi kingston and biggie iggy decided to go as brother love and i guess it was akeem the african dream but as big a skip down the ramp corey graves was was quick to <hes> correct. Everyone actually the alabama dream without a doubt you know i walked into my house. I got home on tuesday night. I walk into my the office. Turn on smackdown and my phone goes off and this is how he looks just like you and my first reaction friend of mine jason smith and boston who sent that to me the first reaction pronouns pal dannatt who the hell is fee and he says kofi or you're not watching smackdown and i turn on smackdown in my <music> office and i was like i was looking in the mirror almost yeah what incredible 'cause play that kofi has done. I can only hope he tags along along with xavier woods to some sort of dragging on one day also supporting this brotherly love image. He's got a future. His brother love's pinkston anything without a doubt out in and again the alabama dream shocking jive and like only he can did it was <hes> it was pretty surreal and corey graves made my fucking. I was watching with my daughter katrina action. She didn't want to miss back <hes> when currie referred to him as alabama dream. I was instantly a big deal to her so shout out to corey dreams do come true in hey man. Let's give a little little love for houston <hes> they put you over big in the houston. Press are men sean over there. Who's been with since the beginning longtime listener <hes> and one of your long term friends actually did a phenomenal article with the houston press. We linked it on facebook facebook earlier this week. If you're in the houston area go pick it up. It's the free paper and your action. Figure is on the cover. Is this leaning towards the best week ever for bruce well now sean pendergast of course sean is the host of six the fan here in houston and and absolutely the <hes> biggest sports talk radio show in houston and sean also is a tremendous authors well and and ryder reporter and all around great guy and he he did this. A wonderful article talked to you. He talked to of course dan soder friend of the show shouli <hes> richard deutch everybody had comments in this snap article was tremendous and right now as we speak is we live and breathe all over houston is my smiling face in every bar restaurant restaurant you could possibly think of on the cover of the houston press so if you haven't already pick your copy up and if you're out of houston just going over to the houston press dot com and and <hes> check out an article i thought that they did a great job and many many thanks go out to them just a little pissed off that they didn't use the picture of dodger the official will dog of something to wrestle with here yourself sapping arise in what john shot cau- in the band waited too snowy learn the jake in the to get my hands on some grants route three course meals due cheney being only note. It's not made seven see rose over in reopen. Deja ain't nobody's he when i wanna be when you're on non seven every day that's my swimming in women with their own spas exclude drive about the benjamins <music>. Hey thompson you're listening. It does something to wrestle with law noise in the background persp- richard attorney what's going on man. How are you well man. I got i feel like i'm surrounded by landscapers right now with all the blowers in the mowers and everything else going on around here you know you had a different name for eighty always tell them blowers. I feel like it used to be called ring. Well you know it depends on some depends on the amount of actual blowing going somewhere coming. Some were going in some were blowing. Let's move along tony. Hey we want to let everybody know. We're doing something fun here. Facebook.com forward size something wrestle and every single day at six a._m. Eastern what are we treating everybody with bruce in the morning deuce with bruce that would be me by god and just <hes> hey the thoughts of the day picking a couple of topics and put few words my happy acid six o'clock in the morning which should brighten anybody's day well about all that but we have address the craziness of the past week over on facebook. You'll hear about a puff daddy t._m._z. ted d._b. Aussie movie rick players thirty or thirty leaving talks current stuff. Sammy's saying kevin owens a._j. Styles something new every every single day bilirakis right now on facebook dot com forward slash something wrestled thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle with bruce bruce. What's going on man. How are you. I'm good you know. Tell me what it feels like conrad. What does it feel like to be a two time. Take time to time job. I do how 'bout that. We want podcast of the year again this week. They start great friends over at sports. Illustrated are men richard is through a down last year. We're an honorable mention. That was only unlike what three or four vermont throw in this year. We took home the hardware. Thanks all of our friends over there. At sports illustrated jamie justin everybody who has made this possible over there there <hes> and i can't believe that this is a real thing bruce to podcast of the year awards what about it and and we get like the hundred thousand dollar check reward for winning the sports illustrated podcast and the right yeah i mean did you get your giant trophy yet. I got mine today. Oh yeah oh my god you know it barely fits in here so damn big they just say that <hes> terry funk and dory funk and all japan. They're jealous of the trophy week after sports illustrated today and we greatly appreciate all the support from those costs man yeah. They got nothing on us in the beautiful. Just the globes alone are absolutely amazing because it's your podcast champion of the world twice a year too young was the five time rookie of the year. I i think my brother one rookie of the year three times over three years. He was rookie of the year every territory worked in but you're young one at the most. I think five time rookie of the year <music> now we're two time podcast of the year in the same year. You know there's a lot of podcasts up that say they win an award but there's only one that actually does something wrestle with with bruce prichard. Come on <hes>. Thank you everyone for helping get the twenty thousand likes on facebook as well. We passed that milestone this week. Listener cigarettes with bruce richard and you've never seen the live nominal. I don't remember the last time i laughed at that much. I had a great time but it was a great time that there's no way highly recommend this. If you live within driving distance of the new york area new york city get ready friday night january the nineteenth nineteen with bruce conrad thompson live at barclay center. Get your tickets now. The place to get him is box of gimmicks dot com alba's. Would you pay for an event like this to be entertained for hours to hear stories. You can never here on the podcast one hundred dollars eighty dollars down fifty dollars dollars. No tickets are available at just forty five dollars. Even if you've already been to a live show trust me trust bruce. We will have a huge announcement. This is definitely not the one to this and a very very special special guests. You're gonna wanna tell people you were there. When for that low price of thirty five dollars i you can even go to the nets basketball game because the take it starts at only thirty five dollars. Can you imagine only thirty five dollars for an n._b._a. Basketball the ball game and something to wrestle with president conrad thompson live join us friday night january the nineteenth at barclay center enter. Get your tickets now. The place to get them is box of gimmicks dot com this one. You'll be talking about it for years. Hey it's conway thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle with bruce. What's going on man. How are you can you believe it is two thousand and eight. What's going to happen in two thousand eighteen. Now hopefully a lot of good stuff. I'm looking forward to it gets. It's conrad thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle with bruce prichard bruce. What's going on man harry you nothing major. No no big no big good news or anything really talk about this week. I guess we should go ahead and spill the beans. We had promised a huge announcement at our brooklyn show but every me got ahead of us brother love's it's coming back some monday night. Raw central d._v._r. Is boys and girls. That's going down on the twenty fifth. Anniversary are all on monday january twenty second and there's lots of rumor and innuendo about this first. Let's clear the air right. Now is the podcast over. No actually it is over. It's been over for a long time. Amanda teutonic good point good point podcast champions of the world <hes> but no the podcast is not ending <hes> but you got the calls to come to the new york and it just so happens that we're going to be there that weekend anyway right. We're going to be there friday night. January nineteenth making history as we i usually do at barclays center with the brooklyn nets now. I can't believe this but it's actually going to be an n._b._a. Basketball game the brooklyn nets facing the miami me he and then right after the game you get something to russell with bruce prichard and conrad thompson live and as i like to say in living in color and tickets start only thirty five dollars a box of gimmicks dot com and i want to mention to brisk. We get lots of questions about if i buy cheap seat. Am i going to be able to see you and bruce. Yes guys. We're not actually holding inside the main arena where they're playing basketball. You're gonna meet us next door inside the same building inside barclays. They have a practice arena so you're going to get instructions. If you pick up your tickets your email from barclay's landing on exactly what to do but you're going to be in an intimate setting you're going to be with your podcast buds and and we're going to have a good time. We still have a couple of really fun. Surprise gas that has not changed and there's still may or may not be another announcement but the big thing. I was excited sided to reveal would be that hey right back here on monday. Brother love's back in the fold man. Hey it's conran thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle with moose burchard bruce going on man. How are you well. It's been a really uneventful week. Since last time we talked everybody not much happening not much happening today but a lot going down this coming weekend but before we get to that we should recap but everybody wants to hear about our show in brooklyn barclays center packed with surprises we had shouli from the stern show come out and introduce oscar from men on commission who did a custom rap for us and then of course it was time for the main event you and on our very special surprise guests mr john bradshaw shaw lay field of course eric bischoff was there sam roberts did some q._n._a. What a live show man shout out to the fine folks over at barclay center and of course kristen justin and our main man paul kavanagh helped make it all happen. He listens you. Listen and i think everybody who was listening. That night. Had a great time well yeah my shoutout is to the audience and everybody that came out in support it does. It was a fun show but i love the i love. The new york crowd i. I love the new york audience because just so damn honest and they were they were great. I thought they were great to all of our guests and we need to make new york a regular or stop that if we could do it every week that'd be great well. We can't do it every week. When it feels like we are <hes> i guess before we talk about this coming weekend. We ought to say you think i was. It's too tough on eric bischoff. I got a lot of people afterwards telling me they felt kinda. Sorry for him. Sorry for eric why that's what i said so i've in putting up with you for a year and a half and he gets one little tiny dose of you. Ask a couple of questions that everybody wants answers to hey. It's conran tops on or near last s. thing to something to wrestle with merce pritchard. What's going on man. How are you well. After a whirlwind. Tour of the city of brother love og doing just lovely the city of brotherly love. I like it. We want to give special. Thanks to everyone who came out and check this out at the old e._c. W arena it was a fun happening and al snow man stole the show he was one of our very special guests that we didn't advertise to promote but you never know who's going to show one of these and he told some stories that i had never heard before housemaid the loop then shoot interviews doug podcasts but he's got stories stories for days. Does he not yeah. Al snow's got one of them. Dry humor that we like to talk about and he is one funny son of a bitch. It was awesome. Having in there and of course horn saga was there joe gertner blue meany terry ronald we had the whole crew in how funny was joel gertner. It was a great time and we can't thank you everybody enough for coming out. It's always good to catch up swap man. He's such an old school. Fan wrestling loves the show. He's listened the every episode and just catching up with him and and talking about the good old days of professional wrestling is always fun. Yeah he's always good for a short story or to onramp thompson and you're listening to wrestle with bruce prichard bruce. What's going on man. How are you well. I'm absolutely doing great. You hear you hear any big newsradio. Good rumors lately man. I heard that brock listener got into a little bit of a fight with vince mcmahon wrestlemainia backstage shane had to step in man the rumor and innuendo running wild brother well. I you know i heard a lot of crazy things over the last week. It's it's. It's been a crazy week. What the hell's all those going on next thing you know i mean they're going to say that we're working for w._w._e. I mean they're going to say that. We have our own video version of something wrestle with crisp richard on the w._w._e. Network allegedly debuting later this month on out of town. You know the rules the rumor and innuendo the window is that we sold out bruce. We did twice man. He was crazy. We sold out new orleans house of blues six hundred plus people that we allow something to waffle the very next morning we are totaled sell apps. It was a weekend of sellouts for us. It was crazy well. The rumor and innuendo bruce is that now the podcast is over. No no that would be that would be rumor innuendo and a complete one hundred percent law. I disagree. I think we're more over the mavericks you know now. We've gotta show on the network. It's not a rumor 'cause we don't deal and it's a fact jack and the podcast outcast is not going to change. Isn't that right mother. Good dear well how i liked today's now phil everybody get you chapstick ready because we're going to have to triple h his ass overtime are we not. I don't kiss ass <hes> pucker up had it now come on. You know what to expect still quoting the observer. We're still pissing bruce off. Versus took out his chapstick ready. I'm still going to call bullshit and allegedly vince mcmahon still likes a certain kind of chocolate and <hes> jim cornet order his thoughts thoughts about all this bruce he mother. Hey it's conor and thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle with bruce prichard richard bruce. What's going on man. How are you. I'll hey really not much going on this week. How about you anything new and exciting happen absolutely man. I got a chance to catch mick foley only live and in person hayes on twenty year a hail tour and it's all about the hell in the cell and obscene mic three or four times but this was his best performance woman's ever i saw him in huntsville but he's coming to a town near you and you can follow him on twitter to keep up with all that it's at real mick foley or or you can just go pick up tickets right now online at real mick foley dot com. You'll see schedule link right there where he's coming when you can see him and i believe the tour is even i'm going to end in pittsburgh where that match happened on june twenty eight the twenty year anniversary mic is a great time so go out of your way to go see cassio kid i uh-huh loved it and he'd actually used to take the show on the road with foldaway back win right way back when when mick foley i entered the arena of the standup comic if you will i opener i was the curtain jerker for miss your bowl back in the day. Well and we're hoping that you'll not only see foley but she'll you'll come see us on monday. May seventh. It's at jimmy's famous seafood right there in baltimore and we're going to do the show live with special confirmed guest before monday night. We're all and then we're gonna watch rawal with you of course during the entire time. We're going to have the best crabcakes in the world plus. Some drinks and you never know what might happen but trust me. You don't wanna miss this tickets around so right now. Bruce prichard dot com and they're also on sale for chicago on june. Sixteenth tickets are going fast at the house of blues. It's going gonna be right after annex t. It's going to be a late night in chicago. I know there's been lots of questions of what if he goes long like the wrestlemainia they're not going to. It's gonna be a regular t._v. Show you'll have plenty of time to get to us and we want you to enjoy the best of both worlds. Don't miss this june sixteenth at the hassle blues. Take us both baltimore and chicago goes on sale now british pitcher dot com but new york city. We love you so much. We're coming back on august eighteenth but we like rochester too and we're coming on july seven so so fear in the state of new york and you want to see pritchard. This is your chance to do it. Whether you want to come to the gramercy or check us out in rochester. We're going to be the at the <hes> comedy at the carlson so hook it up right now. Bruce prichard dot com for all these live events and there's gonna be tons more coming your way our still working on pittsburgh. We don't have a building just yet. We thought we did they. Sorta played hokey pokey with us right verse yeah but we're close. We're close. I'm actually talking to two buildings. Is this weekend so we're we're getting closer. Whittling down had a big list and we're down to two. They're actually still talking to us so hopefully we'll have something something for you next week right here and make a big announcement also got san antonio on sale in nashville on sale and of course arizona for next year's royal rumble. You don't wanna miss it. We're just a couple of blocks from the stadium. Tickets are available empress richard dot com and i guess we should go ahead and address. The elephant in the room bruce our video show on the w. W. network debuted and debuted at number one. It's something else to wrestle with bruce prichard exclusively on the w._w. Network let's clear syrup all the rumor and innuendo because i'd like to sort of address all of this head on a number one and this is important. That show is only available on the w._w. Network we've had lots of people ask. Where can i get the audio for this. It's not the podcast. It's a video show for w._w._e. On w._b. Network the only place to get it is w._b. Network so the audio is not i posted somewhere and if it is it's bootleg all support that get off your ass pay nine ninety nine. It's a great deal to support bruce in any pay per views every month and all the great are cops. Come on come get you something else to wrestle and we should also talk about because you and i said hey we're not changing the show. We're going to do exactly what we have creative control we can do we want. We can say what we want and we did. <hes> we talked about china. We waved at the camera. We said the words. You can't say. We didn't call ourselves. Sports entertainment podcast called ourselves elsa wrestling podcast but the day of we found out that even though we said fuck on the show dave meltzer it sounded like back dave meltzer so the day of the cut the f. words out so i guess you know they sort of got the f out back in three and uh-huh maybe up to i feel like now <hes> they took the n._f._l. Maybe there should be a shirt over richard dot com. Maybe it should in <hes> but you know what at the same time time let. Let's let's examine the whole thing. The video is going to improve folks. It was the first time out we were really rushing to get this out so that we we can make the deadline by wednesday and there are still a lot of things and they came to me and they said look on the f. word. We are family friendly. Friendly kids can download this and it's something that conrad and i have talked about on this show to try and curb our language a little bit to be a little bit friendlier ear sometimes and we said you know what the fuck so <hes> and you know. It's five thirty in the morning conrad. How do you expect me to be waking up to the show well. I'm pretty excited. We've got all the questions this week. Usually i get to ask you the questions with this week. The fans do and that's actually pretty fun for me so he'll ask them. We're going well but i so i think he needs to tell everybody about events coming. Don't you various yeah. We're going to be everywhere go to bruce pitcher dot com. It's all right there. We'll get to the questions michael austin out. No one else will give a damn about this question. But why didn't the atom bomb gimmick work. I wasn't there next question. Josh ken watanabe contracts. Were not an issue. What would have been versus five man w._c._w. Team for the invasion of pay per view. I don't think i was there either. Gabriel p._r. Wants to know when was the intercontinental championship retired retired in two thousand and two was it originally. They retired forever. <hes> is that the end of the questions was last month. Danny wants to noted bruce have have any idea what type of gamma he would have went to w._c._w. Nineteen ninety-two thirty down feeling good man how you feeling today man i am burning at both ends of these days as we record this. It is five thirty in the morning warning radio man and you're listening to said what happened. When the hell oh i'm doing too much something to wrestle with bruce prichard bruce what's going on man. How are you great doing great man. Just <hes> you know strolling along here and just got finish up with a great week of m. l. w. wrassling in orlando florida and if you haven't had a chance one everybody to check check it out on the network every friday night at eight o'clock eastern. Tom and it's great alternative to all of this out there. M w wrestling check check it out. You know i gotta tell you a little skeptical when t._v. Deal but i checked out a man. The production is legit. They've done a really good job with it and i i don't know how much of that because you and hamas that is because the tone issue vanni minute wait a minute hang on pay on then we'll w show initial bonnie's their for their what the fuck left out of this deal you know. I think you need something else to do. Do you got all these downtime combat and be hey. It's conrad thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle with bruce prichard bruce what's going on man. How are you well. I've gotta do catchphrase. It's bruce prichard conrad create controversy com pretty sure that's what we're doing <music> over eighty three weeks but man feels like this last week or so. You've got stirred up what calls in all this well i guess as we should go back because we had recorded our podcast for last week well ahead of time because of our schedules and we had reported it prior. You're to the something else for us with on the w._w._e. Network and there were just some creative differences and we're not going to go the end of the specifics of everything but you you win. Some you lose sunday given you take and we finally got a show on the air that took place on <hes> on friday and i hope that we we have gotten through those rough times and moved on and our shows should be debuting on the w._b. Network work every single wednesday going forward from this point but you didn't catch them all on demand if you missed the controversial w._w. A._b._c. it's available on demand on the w._w._e. Network work right now. I feel like you're behind bruce. You know the controversy this week. It's let's talk about t._n._a. I had to cover last week as well on them. We get to to this week and and they let us talk about those three letters t. n. A. and the other two letters a._j.'s his. I really do feel like when we were on the phone on with them and we said hey can. We talk about the i mean. I really do believe they think we mint tests. Now i think you're i think you're correct. I mean the <hes> the reaction we got when we started talking about total nonstop action's. It's not i mean it's almost like the price and and we clearly they were going to do show a t._a. Okay yeah it's tested out a lot of footage lobby yeah yeah so <hes> hopefully enjoy our episode on a._j. Styles we're trying to <hes> bringing some new stuff and of course we never talked about a._j. Styles in tina in great in a great detail but we were able to and cover his entire run while you were there at least and that was brand new stuff for something else to wrestle. Check it out on the w._b. 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I'll tell you what we've had a wonderful week this week on patriotic patriae on because we have been doing a lot of extra bonus content you manage to stream some footage of you and dutchman tell you and eric bischoff you patterson patterson even gave everybody behind the scenes look for we're going to be doing the day on summer. Slam an we uploaded our live show from baltimore last year sure and as if that wasn't enough we had two bonus episodes. Hey it's conroy thompson and you're listening to something wrestle with but just barely bruce prichard bruce. What's going on man. What the hell go back and tell everybody what you said just before you said what it is that you said so ed bruce and i have been burning at both ends lately me especially three fucking podcasts three patrols the w._b. Network show joe star cast a wedding mortgages and worn out. I'm not far far from burnout and so as we're recording this. It's literally the night before you here and it's very late at night. Especially when you've had the crazy schedule we have so we recorded that pre roll spot there for asia smell max and then i was opened a new foul and i clicked or gord and i just looked at bruce for a minute and i said how do i start the show again. I literally forgot to say hey it's conrad thompson which is something i've said in my mortgage career for our radio spots like ten years and i lost it and he started laughing hysterically and told me that you two haven't slept and you've been going at both oh thins so this is going to be most punchdrunk episode ever and we're drinking diet coke say over here drinking diet coke and watered her and <hes> yeah so yes folks were drinking god. We're going to be high draining a lot during this show and it is what it is so hey hey bruce. No that's your line. Hey it's gone right thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle with bruce richard bruce. What's going on man. How are you you. I'm great. I'm impressed you. Remember how to start to show this week. Well we'll call it a straight man. I am looking forward to talking about this topic with you. We've got summer summer slam nineteen ninety eight ondeck but this weekend we've got summer slam coming to you directly in new york city in bruce. We're going to be there at gramercy. See theater and man about what's time we used to piggyback w._b._z. Shows some bitches are backing us with elias. Ask that happening right at the game the inter right after us seriously. How much more fun can your saturday come see rusen. I stick around for walk with elias elias. This is going to be fun and then go to annex t it's the ultimate wrestling saturday and you can make a half and right now at bruce prichard dot com absolutely and and and you know i gotta give <hes> that's gonna be great because gramercy is like our home away from home. New york city some the greatest fans in the entire world. There's only a few tickets left. I love it when they send out a ticket alert. Only a few tickets left which you did earlier this week. Hurry up because there's only a couple of laughs so if you're watching this listening to this or watching us. I'm watching it <hes> man get them now. Hurry get them and don't forget chicken. Man beat rosenberg itchy pete live. It's the reunion of in the mass man plus lots of surprises going down at sony hall on friday night at eight p._m. Tickets are available now at ticketmaster dot com. Let's talk about us a little more. I can't believe you done this. You've <hes> you've started talking about australia and twenty twenty nine thousand nine with somebody started talking to be mad. You know on our bucket list. What have you and i talked about. We talked about going to different places doing in different things and almost always the first thing out of our mouth is boy if we can only get to australia they hey it's gone rat thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle with bruce bruce. What's going on man. How are you unwinding man. I'm here in beautiful floridian and doing a little a bit of m._l._b. W wrassling and it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. What can you complain about. Well i agree but i did expect you to be the <hes> complaining a little bit today because this past weekend man it was a roast and it was the roast of all wrestling rose we had lots of comedians on hand to poke fun you of course need to thank mr james modern and julie and tons of other folks but who could forget ron and funches mike lawrence taylor williamson and last but certainly not least dan saint germain who's got a new album coming out no real real winners here on eight hundred pound gorilla records and you can actually get that had dan saint germain dot net and anywhere else you enjoy your albums whether it's high tunes amazon pandora spotify whatever but man these guys had a lot of fun poking fun you and maybe one of my the most memorable jokes wasn't even joke at you so i want you to think about one of your favorite jokes from the roast but mine the one that i still remember to this day they're making jeff jarrett and the line was the most memorable angle jeff was ever in was karen. Hey it's conrad tops on your list thing to something to wrestle with bruce richard bruce. What's going on man. How are you. You're getting married this weekend. You're getting married this weekend. You're getting married this weekend. Cool congratulations thanks man. I'm excited the two <hes> host you and dave silva hope. Donald stand me up like he did it my bachelor party we wouldn't do that. This is the real thing yeah i i just realized jeff. Cobb is going to be making a rare alabama n._b._a. Appearance like thirty minutes from my house this weekend and i realized laws that <hes> yoon dave civil will be over there doing a meet and greet right before we could. I was hoping to do dirty dustin on friday night before the wedding and then maybe we could do like a <hes> a mexican half dozen in the afternoon of your weddings. Maybe we can do breakfast yeah. I can't wait to see all the shining. I was told you even have tickets sold to the reception. Why few or inviting people people to the reception supposedly sent a text to see if we can sneak in twelve more plates and if you could sit at your own table at the reception option. I didn't guarantee 'em plagues. I just guarantee that they would be able to park on the street. The reception was taking place. I don't know what to say here. I just you know it's it's all good third there. They love us. They love you. They want to be a part of this. Happy momentous day cool wrestle with bruce bruce prichard on a very special thanksgiving edition what's going on bruce. How are you kabul. Okay everybody happy thanksgiving. That was just gobbly. Gook now see well. I wish you didn't but i am. I'm glad that <hes> we got to hang out with past weekend. In los angeles california many thanks to our special guests lilian garcia of course hall of famer gerald brisco was there and then we had a couple of surprises about taylor williamson's brown's america's got talent finals a a couple of years ago he opened up and talked about his wrestling fan them and that was a tremendous moment and then we had a little run in from triple x. Sensation whitney rights believe is up for <hes>. I guess the academy award of adult films the avian performer of the year so a a star studded cast and then of course muslimovic buddies for ryan forester drew morgan who is a great time. It was an excellent time spot. I've ever gratitude show in los angeles. The audience made it. You know conrad. We've been doing this now for almost two years and still it is one of the most humbling experiences this is in the world to walk out on stage and see all those people that are there just listen to us talking to you are no doubt about it and <hes> we can't thank you guys enough for all the support and we're looking forward to seeing more of this weekend at wrestle cade if you haven't already crews on over i believe today is the last date what about tickets are brisk. Richard dot com were completely sold out with general admission and v._i._p. But we do have some standing room only and if you missed your chance but still would like to see the show. I would encourage you to check it out. I richard dot com. It's this saturday at wrestle. Kate in winston salem north carolina and then about a week eclater. You and i are heading across the pond. Man tell them about it can't wait december four th we're going to be in glasgow scotland and december the fifth breath belfast northern ireland <hes> there are less than twenty tickets as we speak for each of those shows so if you wanna see us so scholar and you wanna see us in northern ireland. I suggest you get your tickets right now. Because these will sell out and then we're going to go over to england glen and our first night december six. We're going to be in birmingham the september seventh in london cimber eight in bristol and in my favorite december nine in liverpool and the great thing about these bands you also get a fight forever live wrestling event as well and people are talking is cody going to be there is cody gonna show up. Meant cody is confirmed. Cody is going to be there live and he is going to be a part part of the event along with enforced gordon jimmy havoc coppa 'shago the godfather conrad bruce whole lot more. It's going to be great great great week week in the u._k. Scotland in thompson you're listening to something wrestle with bruce prichard and bruce bruce as we record this right now. We are halfway through our tore across the pond. We've already knocked out a couple of shows three in fact. Tell everybody where we're being where we're going next. Can you believe it. We started out in glasgow scotland right from there went to belfast okay. I didn't say belfast because i was learned the correct way to say. It is actually belfast. I was right and wrong. No i was correct you. Oh you know and then tonight we did our first ever fight forever show and we're in birmingham birmingham. Yeah we weren't at birmingham alabama emma. We're in birmingham england here. In the united kingdom and i was excited to be here man. I've never been to england before and certainly never been to scotland and and i had a blast in glasgow hottest crowds. Wherever had let's go. Hey thompson and you're listening to something to wrestle with for tokyo. I know that's not exactly what you expected to hear today. We're calling an audible. We had originally planned to do a saturday nights. Main event watch long from hulk hogan and king kong bundy all all the way back in nineteen ninety eight and then we put the poll up and you guys were so fired up about real rumbled on a guy and i said i will do that next week. Instead and then something tragic tragic happened. We lost a gene oakland and you guys wanted semaine content today and that's what we're going to bring to you but unfortunately <hes> i'm in tokyo. Oh and bruce is in france would texas and he's going to be in friends went again this weekend with eric bischoff and half a dozen other or maybe two dozen other w._w._e. Hall of famers you gotta check them out at the mall fiterman sports. It's saturday january fifth so tomorrow. If you're listening to this on friday but tend to be awfully bushwacker leading nasty but what's demolition volition even our main man eric bischoff and rumor and innuendo bruce is that hoppy talk land might be there the first time honkytonk man and eric bischoff. We've been in place since michelle. Smith running down run eighty three weeks. We'll should be interesting to say the least and <hes> we are all going to be there. It's a small place so so this should be an awful lot of fun an awful explosive to say the least yeah. I'm looking forward to the report. I'm sure social media will blow up on that and hopefully <hes> you're doing what i'm doing and you're watching wrestle kingdom today. I know that we've been promoting here on fighting bovine. It feels like everybody has had something to say about what you're doing what we're doing and what's changing and what's not changing but we've sort of been mum's the word about it by what you know the news use the window the click bait. Oh hell all hell that i'm extremely. I'm extremely proud extremely happy to be back in the family at w._w._e. And <hes> i had my first t._v.'s back this past week had an absolute blast san everybody and being back in the fold and we'll see this isn't not being coy or anything like that. It's a a lot still needs to be worked out as far as what my role will be and ohio now said events his right hand man and the head of creative who said that i mean and the internet i mean the yeah well there. You go folks look. I'm going to come back and help out wherever i can be most valuable and were were working through it. Were you know we're figuring out where i might fit best and how and what and why and everything else and it's it's not something and it's something that happened pretty quickly with me going to t._v. And i've got to see a lot of changed in ten years and i have to see where i it in. They have to see where i fit in and how and what have you so. There's still a lot of questions to be answered and i'm looking forward to an incredible journey so <hes> as far as what we're doing with the podcast well hang on. Let me ask are canceling. Any live shows no absolutely not every live show that we have advertised <hes>. We're going to be there but realistically if your schedule continues like this. There's going to have to be fewer you were if any live shows after these fair to say fair that is fair to say because <hes> if i'm gonna do i'm gonna do something. I'm going to do it. <hes> one hundred percent well. I mean let let's talk about it. You can't necessarily do the show right before the pay per view if you're like you know so. That's the thing take me. No more live shows like well. I mean maybe one here. They're realistically but with this new crazy schedule your about to be on <hes>. There's there's a lot of eighteen hour days in your future but so the next question is <hes> and we got this whenever we announced that we were going to do show on the w network to everybody thought <hes> <hes> shows over are we cancelling the podcast no sir we're not and we're going to figure out what is going to be where it's going to be and all that good stuff off and all those questions are still to be answered and were working our way through it and probably you know we're going to experiment with awesome things and have some fun and and see where we go but and let me say don't read too much into that because here's what we're talking about. Maybe some of this. The poll ends on tuesday and we tape on thursday right. Maybe that has to change because travel schedules and whatnot but <hes>. I want everybody to know i'm committed to doing this. Show and last. I checked you. Were are two so the show is gonna stick around. Appreciate your support. We're not going anywhere. Yes we were fucking with you at the beginning of this because we're assholes <hes> but we're excited about bruce's new position russian and i realize this means a lot of you're going to hate and you're gonna say oh. Well bruce is gonna start. Kiss and aaa says win the fuck. Did he stopped. That's the nature of the show. So you know bruce. Get your chapstick ready and we'll see next week friday at noon. I'm not gonna say chaka. Khan is there anything else. You want to address address for everybody because seriously you know i knew when mike johnson broke the story. Oh fuck my phone's about to blow up and i'm out of town. I just need to turn this off so i just went silent on social media until we had time for you to actually you know do your fucking new job and then we could talk after because let's not kid ourselves when you and i i started this show. What did you put the odds of you ever going back to the company at about one hundred thousand one yeah how about zero nobody this was going to happen and now and now you are and so no matter what anybody says it's got. It's got to be a good feeling to you to rome those his hall again. Where maybe you thought you never would be again and to feel welcome and wanted and contributing and sort of back in the saddle. Even though maybe it's a different horse. Maybe it's a different seidl. You're doing what you love and man fuck it. I'm happy for you and well. I'll tell you man i it's it's an incredible feeling and and i it's it's it's really it's just hard to articulate sometimes the excitement and how <hes> how good it feels sometimes sometimes i get a little overwhelmed with it and have to pinch myself but it was. I remember walking out into the arena in in houston. <hes> in this was guys this all happen really really fast and and it wasn't something that i solicited solicited or anything else it it happened from you know just going down to say hello and talking about things and and what have you but i i walked out which i haven't been to a w._w._e. Show went to annex t and i got the feeling but i haven't been no w._w._e. Show and been out in the audience in in a long time <hes> <hes> and i felt that electricity again and it's it's hard to explain it's goosebumps. It's magical that something when you look at it and go oh god to be a part of it is exciting and it's pretty damn cool so i was a little overwhelmed and probably will be for a few weeks. It's like drinking water out of fire hose <hes> but it's exciting shed and i welcome everybody to come along on the ride with us. Listen <hes> we'll have some fun. I am kit. Can we still like mock. Johnny ace's voice and say do shit like that though <hes> so agree to michael hayes monday with dave dave day yeah the i'm so happy for you when we had that conversation last week and you were just <hes> it was still so fresh and raw it was like one of the happiest moments in our run together and i know that a lot of people just automatically assume the worst but <hes> dude. I'm fucking thrilled for you and i know that you're back where you belong and where you're having fun and i hope our listeners appreciate that too and you know we're definitely making oliver live shows and nothing's cancelled and oh hey <hes> real fast. Are you still allowed to come to star cast because that's going to be the next summer that you you're not allowed to come. Oh i'm planning on being there yeah so there you go something to wrestle the last live show we've marketed and we've advertised and we've we've promoted <hes> so if you haven't already you need to come see on one of these final shows because i don't know what our schedule will allow but <hes> we're still going to be here for you every friday at noon somehow some way same bat time same bat channel. We appreciate your support and man back in august. The two thousand sixteen who the fuck quarter thought this was going to happen not i was kind of fun. <hes> dude. It's the fucking wildest rod ever accept how about <hes> getting that first flight out and walking around and dress shoes on concrete floors instead of just hanging out in your pajamas all day. That's a big difference yeah. I had to walk quite quite a ways verses. This is the <hes> fifteen yards from the bedroom to the office in your fucking house us and your fish and shirt and your basketball shorts kevin owens dad. Don't put the shirt on until like about eleven thirty. It's it's a lot of things they are a changing but we appreciate you guys being around. What an incredible story. This podcast asked has been and <hes> we thank you guys for all the opportunities i mean we got on here in new fucking just ripped t._n._a. Shreds and they brought you in and then you got the hang and produced today's t._v. For him all w. and then we had the network show and then live shows and holy shit man. I can't wait to see what's next and i'm so thankful that you guys have joined us on the rod and bruce that you <hes> believed in a a hillbilly redneck and said hey man. Let's do a podcast. How old is she right. Holy shit and rockin chaka khan see next week right here on something to wrestle with shows not over bruce prichard. Hey it's tops and you're listening to something to wrestle will richard bruce. What's going on man. How are you welcome back to america good. I may it's lovely be back. Oh god i really thought we could avoid bullshit crocodile dundee. Guess guess that's possible. Uh-huh i'm actually doing wally who is mature manager who was basically an australian hybrid john paul. Shell nut okay well. I don't know what all that means. I know you had a great time. You're sending me lots of fun pictures and <hes> it. It seems like you had such a good time that you spread the word to our mutual friend eric bischoff bischoff and now he's gone austrailia well. He's gonna have a damn good time. Rock the promise them that so it's gonna be that'll be a good one for everybody. I know i had a blast asked and the australian audiences were fanned tastic <hes> i just i can't say enough. It was a bucket list dream of mine to good australia got experience. It and i'll definitely be back some point thompson. You're listening to wrestle with bruce bridge and what's going on man and how are you well conrad. It is new york city and i am absolutely excellent because it's wrestlemainia samania samania hell as where you are. You're deep in it. We are in the heart of new york city and <hes>. We're gonna be talking about the one and only michael hayes today but i need talk about last week because we got a lot of feedback last week. Show a lot of people not happy with less money in seventeen is overrated well. That's because you were wrong. I was right and all of our audiences right to because they felt that it was the greatest wrestlemainia. Is it going to be better than the sunday's wrestling that's to be okay. We'll find out but how about this the day after this sunday's wrestlemania you and i are going to be putting the band back together one one last time here in new york city and the one and only jim ross will be joining us and for obvious reasons that will never happen again. Hey scott thompson near listening named something to wrestle with bruce. Richard bruce was going. Oh man how are you. I'm recovery romo. Wrestlemainia hang yeah man. How did it feel for all time. The back to the side all the craziness of wrestlemainia leaking exhausting is probably avoids best word that i can use to describe it so it's all good man. It's all good helluva helluva week. Helluva last is ten twelve days wherever the hell been well we we had a hell of a good time last week <hes> at both our show <hes> j._b._l. Gramercy and the first dance odor and chewy join this is always a good time and then <hes> something rather unique with j._r. Maybe come last time <hes> <hes> monday right after all pretty good trip to new york. It's gonna thompson and you're listening to something. Russell will bruce pritchard. Who's coming coming to us live from stamford connecticut. What's going on bruce. How're you actually as they say up in canada. I'm awesome greenwhich connecticut or as the locals call greenwich day here as a matter of fact. I'm looking out at the <hes>. The air conditioning system here is wonderful well. I'm excited that you're in greenwich and i know that you're up there with all your stop befriends. I think those are the <hes>. The main streets that hundred hers townsley used to roam back in the day. Did he not hell yeah yeah. They are probably the meanest a stamp streets anywhere in the world. Well hence the name. I mean you know you just can't make that shit. Oh you mean streets of connecticut as mean as get tate's conrad thompson and you're listening to richard what's going on man. How are you you know what the <hes> uh i'm here. I'm alive. It's all good contrary to popular belief i. I think i'm here comrade you know. I have heard that you're there but you've been everywhere my friend friend. <hes> this life on the road that you've signed up for again has quite the stretch coming up. You're telling me before we click record today that you've got an eleven day trip coming coming up including a trip to the sand of saudi arabia i long for it buddy boy it sure is and i'm going from one end of the world all the way to the other and then coming back and going to the other side so <hes> yeah a little bit of craziness going on but it's all good because we're rocking and rolling and wrestling with something to with you. You know what i mean. I do know what you main thompson. You're listening to wrestle with and we back in the saddle. What's going on bruce. How're you will hear conrad thompson just here by golly ready to rock and roll feels like it has been been for ever well. We just gotta talk here on this microphones studio system that we have going on as you will well. I wonder why that is mr. Mr saudi arabia mr emergency dentist. You'd probably you've got some things going on in your life baby. Welcome back well. It's good to be back by god ready to rock and roll ooh. Hey conrad thompson on your list. Thing does something to wrestle with members richard. I what's going on man. How are you argest absolutely wonderful. Kinda good to be back in the south still got a bunch of loose teeth. So <hes> you know folks going to have to work with me here for a little bit will well. I get used to like teeth kind of being hung on still by stitches and all that good shit well. I'll tell you what we got. Great feedback from the show dropped earlier this week. I think it was the surprise release. Nobody expected it but king of the ring nineteen ninety four is now released out into the wild <hes>. I got really good feedback from this show. The feedback you got from king of the ring ninety four. I think it was they were happy to hear as talkie again was probably a great response and a really good feeling. I know i was and it was a fun show to do and when we got done with it. Did i remember you know shit. Both you and i kinda looking at each other and going that was a lot of fun and it was a fun. Show a good show so positive feedback thus far dr anything else interesting happened this week. Yeah not really you. Don't kind of sable sable. Just it's been working man all right well. I mean i guess we should at least address it. The internet blew up on thursday with the news that smackdown and raw now have executive directors and <hes> yeah. This doesn't feel like apparent names. You would hear in two thousand nineteen seems a little bit like a fever dream. Paul heyman is the executive director for all and eric. Freaking bishoff is the executive director of smackdown iran's with these guys for both of them great news for our great close close personal friend mr eric bischoff to be back in wrassling. How excited you think erica's with this. I think he's ecstatic in a proud of him very happy for for him and you know what time will tell and if you're gonna do a wonderful job and that brings us to today of course we're here celebrating a three year anniversary of something something to wrestle and we can't do too much more of this without tagging in the man the myth the legend the reason. We're all here who made it all possible. Mr bruce prichard an catching up with you today bruce on this exact three year anniversary this august fifth is not a friday like it was three years ago nope. It's a monday and of course on monday. Who knows where you are. Where in the world is carmen sandiego the w._b._z. Version where in the world is bruce pictured. I'm just sitting here in beautiful greenwich connecticut waiting all the car take me to the plane go to pittsburgh pennsylvania for monday night raw uh-huh needless to say changed in three years. Is that fair to say buddy. Thanks so you know it's funny as i as i got on the elevator i've gotten your text on. I looked at the date and i went holy shit. A lot has changed in three years so folks this. This is a precautionary tale to be careful what you wish for and never ever ever ever ever say never because there is no such thing yeah i mean nobody could have ever predicted how much your life would change how much our life has changed and how many of our friends and family who are sort of in this podcast world with us go from eric bischoff the tarnish vanni and then even folks behind the scenes like they've silva our lives have changed so much because of the overwhelming support and love that you guys have shown honest from day one and we wanted to just drop a little bonus episode today does just sorta let you jump in the time machine with us and go on this journey from where we started to where we are now and just how much has changed in just three short years and i can't say it enough. Thank you very much for all the support that we've gotten martin and its afforded you know both of us. A lot of opportunity and bruce richard is living proof of that right well absolutely and could it'd be done none of it could have ever been done without the folks the download listen to and support us and it's funny when you and i started this remember they told us if if we could ever reach you know ten thousand downloads of whatever it was the first one did sixty one and then we hit that three seventy five and then we hit the million and then we never looked back and none of that none of it would ever be possible if thrall you listening and a grateful is i mean i can't even i- words cannot describe how grateful i am thankful to everybody that made it possible because you you made it possible. Audience made it possible in here. We are three years later in places that <hes> none of us would be well. We thank you for sharing your wrestling life with us man. I know that <hes> you sometimes feel like you've got to overdose on the thank. Yous and i understand that and appreciate that but the reality is you know we as the listener because i consider myself the first listener we've had the greatest joy of all you know you were <hes> you're the narrator and the curator at this point for our childhood wrestling memories reason why can't thank you enough for being so transparent and so real times when it wasn't easy talked about how some of your friends have passed away those very emotional episodes. We've had a lot of fun with in a silly impressions and one live but the idea that something to wrestle something that was formulated on the couch and huntsville alabama and then went worldwide is just pretty fucking fucking cool man and i appreciate you believe in me and this concept and this idea taking a shot and and most of all it's all about the fans man because if nobody listens to this thing nothing nothing ever happens exactly and you said it all man who ever thought we'd be young to england doing tours over there. I got to go toss throw yeah. You've been japan and just everything in between so very income true that i didn't even know that i was dreaming so i feel like i've they'd been living in a dream for three years is pretty damn awesome. Thank you everyone for all your support. We hope you enjoyed today's <hes> little sprinkle on top and we appreciate you sticking taking with us these three years and hey this is not fair will the train marches on got another episode this friday and every friday and although that show has changed a little bit you once upon a time we didn't have live shows we had a lot and now we don't have any and the same thing you know we didn't we weren't on the network and then we were and now we're not that doesn't mean that we're not not still working behind the scenes on some new tricks purse leave right bruce <hes> you better believe it and all i gotta do is say stay tuned because is it only gets bigger and it only gets better well. This is normally the part where i'll wrap it up and then he'd do your gimmick. Are you ready to embarrass yourself in the lobby. 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