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Ep 187: David Razowsky

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Ep 187: David Razowsky

"Accommodate advise. Vice podcast and friends. Statement nominee be taken literally was up seven De. PODCAST. Hello everybody, and welcome to a comedy advice podcast. My name is Stephan Tani and I'm your host joining me today is Eric Hughes. Eight has a gallon. Don't well, how are you buddy? I'm hanging in there through men while we've also got special co host recurring friend Cam sneed. Hey guys. Where you? Live or were you doing a slow motion or what was rainbow? Have Rainbow K.. I really liked your name is very simple. It's only two syllables, but this need really brings out the VIBRATO when I say. So I've been told it's like, okay. Thank you. Okay. Good. All right. Very good. We've we're also joined by a very special guest. He's coming to us from zoom. Rome. He's trained and performed at the second city Chicago with the likes of Steve Carell Stephen Colbert, and more. He was artistic director at the second city Hollywood stopped workshops and performed world wide everybody please welcome David Rozelle ski like you. Assume room atop the building I mean. Zoom Room just now. We call it the zoom room, my my girlfriend and I. We call it Zoom Room but yeah. I show you. This is Jim Ram. It looks like. Not. Here's the outside of Zoom Room. For those of you who are on radio I'm showing that I've got a garden that has a animal senate we like in the back there but decided. Not Watch it. So there you go. There you go exactly and Cam just revealed I think a thin is that right? Little Murmur Person Cam he's is. You guys. Did slip. Camera you got your name is can't Pam Snead, which I want to pronounce camps need. Camps and what is that? What is it? Can Or can't sounds like a charity. Just like kid cams need dot Com. Eric I think it's an ORG. That's dot org. Cams kids. All Cams kids. Dot, Gov what do? You know what you just asked for it. You GotTa Dot Gov Oh. Yes. Need. Dot. Dot Edu Dot Edu. Dot. Edu is I mean listen to the way that rolls off Dot Edu David Dot. Edu that. Sounds like an Ethiopian name at eighty. Eighty you. Kinda does yeah. Dot Edu Dot Edu. Yeah that Guy Ron's man oh can. Iran. That can be cams last name camps. Need Edu because campsite. First Name. Going to give you same bolt around firs money. All right. Guys. Fine. I'll change my name. Kim Cam snead audio. Yeah now, that might not be good. All right. Well, we'll. We'll workshop but David, I'm by now now thank you for joining the show. We wanted to talk a little bit about you but I wanted to check in how's everything going. It's been a tough time for everyone we just want to check in on our guests. Why spend time? Just just. Well, we just learned the cameras person and he has an extra last name. So that's been tough specific. No. It's news to me. I feel like every day is well, it's what fresh hell and every day is to how are you adapting? That's the question we need to ask anybody. Deputy because every day is like right now. In California like where I am I gonNA. Show you another picture. I can't I'm sorry I gotTa show you this but that's what I want to stay on thirty six o'clock and it's it has not been this smoggy in Los Angeles in thirty five years. So that's what we all right now. But you know what? We're talking about earlier like there. There are benefits about what we're doing here an I an again it's how you adapting what new things are happening I. Don't think he'd be having this conversation if it weren't for. If it weren't through what we're going through right now and so for me, that's a positive thing. That yes. Absolutely. For us as well. I mean we may or may not have orchestrated this whole thing, but you know just to get to you but I i WanNa thank you and. I. Want to. Punch. You sound like my wife now. W. Say that I wanNA. Thank you on. But anyway, wanted to talk a little bit about you. You've been doing Improv for quite fifty years. It's been years. Fifteen years I've been doing theater for I've been doing theater Let's see I'm sixty one. So I've been doing theater. Of Fifty one years. And what's really interesting as A last, year? I. Went Oh. This is what I'm going to be when I grow up. To be one up one day I, like this is going to happen to everybody. You're all going to realize that there's going to be a moment your life where you can know this is what I'm going to be when I grow up and this is what I'm going to be when I grow up. I. Totally, it'd meaning like you you. You're sure like you finally realize that this is what you WanNa do after. Tobacco, there's no, it's not true. There's what am I going to do? I'm sixty one year old pasty guy. What am I gonNa do but do keep doing what it is doing. Really become it's become improvise life and I'm really I'm really blessed in I was born at the time that I was born. I hung out with people long hang out with I have A. I have a family that has always encouraged me to do what it is that I've wanted to do. And I think that's really important. You know to have a a to have to have your peeps in have you tried behind you going do this do this? Out what I'm getting just from talking to you is it's You've found your people for now and these people that you found help you. It's an existential experience. All you're going look we're doing together and we're doing all these things together existing together. This moment we're experiencing these things together and brought the small the small amount of that we chatted before we went live You guys you guys you guys. You guys are you're brave and you're curious and your energetic and your focus and your need your courageous, and you would not be doing this work I. Think about it. You gotta give yourself props. You gotta deal with Yourself Humor and passion. Around applause. Not How often do you do that to say you know what I'm okay. Most of the time you go on I, really fucked up one did I do that or I should have done that or why did I do that and that isn't as good. Well, you know what you're always doing the best job that you can. So Erica. That's horrible. That is useful and thank you for allowing us to be able to give ourselves props. I can do it a little more than both of US Eric. Me Yes. Yeah he had no. No no reluctant. Whatsoever. I can't say like camp like you might have to talk people in accepting that right. Cam. With these fins. Going to take time to clap whenever I possibly can't. Okay. That's pretty much all I can do. I love it. It's one of the needs. There you go. There you got. I was I was GONNA ask too because I knew that you just talking about Oh realizing this is what I do WanNa to do when I grow up and I was listening to your podcast add comedy podcast and you've had some really cool people that you've had conversations with one of which was Stephen Colbert and you guys talked reminisced a little bit about. Your guys time at the second city and one of the things that stood out to me was when he was talking about a moment and he was with you performing of when he realized that this is what he wanted to do for the rest of his life and I wanted to this is not about Stephen Colbert. This is about David Rozanski this episode. So I wanted to ask you. If you guys want to hear about that moment, go to David podcast add comedy thousand but wanted to ask you dave has there been a moment or series of moments or all your life that have just lead you think this is what I called to do and what I WANNA do for the rest of my life I remember and I remember I remember when I was a kid. I think I was I was might have been ten eleven twelve. Thirteen or fourteen or something a teenager and I remember thinking to myself. This is what I want. I don't know how this came up, but I WANNA make Vincent People's lives. That's what I wanted to do. That was the focus it wasn't that I want to be a teacher I wanted I wanna make a I wanted to make a difference in people's lives. Now, hanging out with all these people have become a list actors. They always knew what they wanted to do Stephen Steve Carell always knew that he wanted to be a movie star. Jackie. Hoffman always wanted to be a Broadway actress Steve Carell, always, I'm seek Oban always wanted to be Steve Colbert and that's what he became. So I was going through a lot of what am I doing on this planet? Why am I here? What I realized when I started doing an improvisation was I found people that were working that I was able to work. With I, found people who we altogether influence each other. We made a difference in each other's lives and as I started a feeling that I started to be drawn to a lot of teachers Improv, teachers who were teaching Improv at that time, they were teaching theatre at that time. Because that's who taught Improv of and one of the people that I came across was a guy named Martin the late Martin too much and what Martin had was a Martin had a a philosophical spiritual bend to what it was that he was doing asked time went on I started follow down that spiritual trail until I hit a book I know us by when I started working at the second. Second City. I was thinking I need something else. I came across a book called a Buddhism played in simple by a guy named Steve Hagen and what I realized was that was the best improv written by who has no idea that they wrote an Improv book. But it was it hit me at a certain place where it's like this is what I've been looking for. I've been looking for that intersection between spirituality and improvisation and what you realize as you keep doing this, you realize that all improvisation is Buddhism and it's just a matter of being present in the moment that you're dealing with and when you're talking about standup, it's the same sort of thing except you've got, you've got you've got you've got your ten minutes or five minutes or seven minutes or whatever it's going to. Be You are no more alive and president and alert than when you are trying new material out and you're listening to everything that somebody saying and you're paying attention to where the beats are, and you're paying attention to the temple that you have, and you're paying attention to the pauses that you have an anytime whatever it is that we're all doing right now is about realizing that we are alive at this moment and whatever the hell is happening we are witnessing it, and so it wasn't a series of Alday camp it wasn't wasn't. It what thank you I can was about the club it wasn't. It wasn't like tiffany than I had, but it was like Oh that felt good. That felt good. Oh, that felt good and then I, just remembered what things feeling good and here's another thing just one more thing I also remembered what didn't feel good like hanging out with guidance he'll good and being in that Improv company didn't look good and having a teacher didn't feel good and you start going to start winning away at which you don't like and you start being attracted to that which you which brings you joy. And I I've been so lucky man like that I came into second city at the time that I came into the second city. Look at the people I'm working with that I work with and we loved each other and we hated each other and work and we did some awesome stupid wonderful work. I am so damn proud of. That that that is absolutely amazing it. I feel like as I was listening to you on your podcast and then on your Ted talk where you talked about and I think I wrote down some of these quotes because. Be Present in the president and I will know what I need to know when I need to know what I need to know all things about. Staying in the moment and really enjoying relishing that moment or sitting in it as you had in your Ted Ted Talk I'll have a link in the show notes, but it was I. Listen to Ted a week because my company sends an email with Ted talks to keep our morale up and keep us from going insane but. Yours was one of my favorite ones that I've listened to in a long time because I've been trying to achieve what you were teaching and I've been doing it with meditation where they're saying you know breathe in the moment, etc.. And then to have someone that is so creative and so you know bringing the with his dynamic with this comedy weaved in it. It just clicked for me in a better way where I thought. Wow, this is exciting. This is my style and I feel like this podcast is nice example of me failing recognizing and then starting to get back into it because I remember the early episodes episodes one through five or not public anymore I will do. This is my brothers I did this is my two brothers and then. I would add it and then I'd be like I wasn't really listening to what they were saying was I know I wasn't and I would completely go off and I was just waiting for my chance to say something and then go off and say it and so. Through hearing myself through a recording started to try and get better at that. I mean, I still don't listen to what CAM has to say, but that's for another reason. Total. Line So. So those things that you perceive as failures weren't really failures all there were lessons wrapped up in a different thing. Dan and and the thing about that. Ted Talk that I had was there was an event that was in that talk or to spoil it where I humiliated myself in front of thousands and thousands of people and I looked at it and I went okay. That happened what am I gonNa do with that because I can't undo that and spiritual journeys that those are the and we want we go we want to be joyous and happy and all the time you know what? That's not how life is. So when you are when you are experiencing something like doubt. Experience the doubt live in the doubt that doubt is going to lead you to something else when you're joyful experience joyfulness but known that both of those containers that will eventually have nothing in them and what you did, and then what ends up happening, you get something else and this too will pass man back to one thing i. know whatever it is that you're going through this too will pass. The shitty thinks you're going to pass the good things are going to pass to that meal that you like it's going to be done but busey electric, it's GonNa be emptied that person you like kissing she's GonNa. Be Gone. Like those sort of things that are happening yeah that to take that you have that will eventually be gone as well. But all of these are experiences that we get to experience in the moment and and again it's an Improv lesson but it's really a lot of lesson but it's not just an Improv lesson. It's any artist lesson and artists going through that same sort of thing the idea of how do I take what is happening in this moment and make it my own and the best way that you can do that is to be honest do I like this being here to a is being here? What's my relationship to what's happening in this moment? And I think it's. So you talk about it to with you were before we opened up this part where you're saying I've recognized the bad moments where I didn't like hanging out with this person or I didn't like doing this and I. think that's super important and it's something that I am working on to where there are these moments where my feel bored or I might not feel pleasant and I also I. I don't usually take quotes from people and then recite them here. But another one that you had was people like to feel in the present when things are pleasant and I think you're absolutely right and. It sucks with having cell phones and social media and stuff where these distractions can take you away from the moments that aren't present that you really should be paying attention to to wreck I. Understand what you're saying and I really get that to you know and I I'm always very aware of we're should because you don't should on yourself. Of It's the feeling of are you enjoying what you doing? Are you enjoying what you're doing? Then fucking do it man if that's what you like if you WanNa look at your phone, looked your phone. If you're getting something out of it, get some of it. If you realize own I'm looking at my phone but I'm I'm standing at the grand. Canyon. Okay. The moment that you realize you're standard the Graham Tanny put your phone away and look the Grand Canyon for a minute you know what's going to happen Grand Canyon's not gonNA. Go Away. You get to look at the Grand Canyon then look at your phone again, take a picture of the Grand Canyon look at your picture. Of Your Life Anybody, tell you what you know that you're doing that. Wrong. That's a good point. I like that I'm GonNa backward to do whatever the fuck you want. Like it. But there's also. There's the other people think you is none of your business in no that that's the greatest gift you can give yourself because if somebody saying you, you're really looking at your phone a lot. You know what's going on there it's like I don't have to tell you. I liked. I like what's happening. I like my phone. I like what I'm doing I like what I'm looking at and you have no idea what I'm doing on this on you know what I could be doing at that moment is donating money to some cause can be helping a student amounts a question or I could be playing with friends or could. You all listings mind your own fucking business. Unless unless they're out of show then a stay up your phone, right? That's at least my show. Yeah. I. You meant you being performer stay off your phone if you're headed show. Recipient and there's nothing wrong with that. I truly. God. So Fifty years been doing this. You're a director, and now you're you're teaching workshops. How is the teaching been because it sounds like from what you said earlier, what you WanNa do is help people, and so I feel like this is a great way of being able to do that. Have have have there been moments where there's been a lot of frustration or it seems it's difficult to. Say what I teach is very different than what the average Improv teacher teaches What the average in teacher teaches. What's the term that most people use when you hear Improv? What is the word I mean? What's the phrase? Most important thing in. Yeah. I don't teach that I teach say no ask questions deny talk about people who aren't there. Don't be specific at the beginning of seeing connect through an emotional connection that you have if the scene is vague but let me Baig. I'm all about the emotional connection that because they look at a lot of improvisers and I was there director Second City for eleven years I've traveled all around the world teaching people and there are a lot their lessons in implementation because there are a lot of people teaching that yes, and but they don't really know what that means and I don't WanNa get too into the weeds on this one. So all that I'm going to say is I do get I have been getting pushback about what I'm teaching because I'm teaching you what I'm teaching is hot to be a human being I think. Muslims. Don't like improvisation because as. You know why people don't like improvisation to watch show it sucks. Most of it this fucking horrible. If you told me that you're if you say I'm doing play I'm like I'm GonNa go see your player. But if you've got I got a show I'm going I an Improv show it's like no, not going to go to your dumb impact. Guarantee you it's GonNa be crowded and it's GonNa be crap because the nine people that are all wearing shitty like t shirts, ratty pants, I'm spending thirty five dollars. Parking food drinks and you're up there and it looks like you just taught off of a basketball game. Professional and let's do our work. So I sit in an audience and I watched most improvisation I'm thinking those people don't even know that they're on stage. And they're like used of when you were doing this at the beginning they're just waiting for somebody else to shut up so they can do a dumb joke, right? and. I say that with total respect man I said total respect. Those people don't know what it is that they're doing. And that might be me as the old man you know, hey, you kids get off my lawn musically listen to his noise, but it can also be this. Are you liking what you're doing our people coming to your shows because I'm surprised that Daphne? Both of those answers are yes. So you sound like. You sound like you're like a mix of Improv theater is that was I would say. Yeah I. Got Sight. Camp go ahead. I don't mean like improvisation I mean like Improv comedy like the style form of a show in Prague and and like traditional theater. Is kind of way you try to combine. I'm doing I'm doing what's called long form Improv and longtime Improv is concerned with getting lap. But. It's more about the relationship between the two people is more about because when I go to an Improv show and I and I, see this I see an emotion a relationship between the people I want to do is I want to watch both of then Bali back and forth their emotional epiphanies and not be clever and not dupont's and not in an NOCCO for the joke but realized that the humor comes from you being honest in the moment that you're honest. And that's where the humor comes from. That's the humor that you remember. You remember somebody saying something that shocks chapelle shocks you you know. These people that in a the these people are just grab you and you go. I did not see that coming I did not see that coming. You know like real human beings. Real. Estate. About the real site with. Guys. But here's the thing if you're up there and you're talking about your life and you're you're talking about what's going on your life, I'm going to watch it. But if you're up there, you know making punts and making jokes and talking about. Other things like all right. These are jokes. I don't know who you are. I don't know who you are. You Know Yup. But you also have to find out who you are through making those mistakes you winnowing away that which isn't. To find out who the hell you are. So there's a lot of people who are going to do shitty stuff for a while but after a while they're gonNA realize what they're doing. I wish I was passionate about this I know one day. I. Wish you'd have a little more energy and. Find. Your dream. You can. Oh Man Well David Been Amazing I was going to say, do you have any workshops coming up I think I saw one in October I have one over at the the Improv in DC. But that just that was sold out. So if people goes who yeah, I had a very good a pandemic y'all GonNa react for you. That's awesome. So most most of the shops that I do sell out pretty quickly. Some really excited about that if people go to and you can link this up just website and just hit just go to my website and you'll see some of the things that I've going on and you can also sign up for what I call my low impact mailing lists, which means I probably will never mail you anything. That's my low impact mailing this but I've got to have an and. So this weekend which is probably a will be gone by the time Y'all university was this I'm working with a people called vintage imprompt. Festival and they're all improvisers over fifty and it's been. Really wonderful to work with these people and we've got TA got workshops coming up this weekend than are sold out and I've got a show. A few shows that we're doing and it's really it's just been a fantastic time because so many people who can take Improv Take implements from everybody literally all around the world something that couldn't happen before. I've got a literally have a million frequent flyer miles from the amount of flying I used to do when I was in when I was up until. March. and. Now, I'm working with people. All over the world. And it's a, it's really a golden time threat free Improv. That's Improv. Again, just people not seeing you for your chest up again, not knowing if you're a center or knock. That's cams. Joke. Eric store. I'm giving you credit I'm trying out. Hey Stephanie here. Have you ever thought about making a podcast it may seem complicated, but anchor makes it easy. Let me explain it's free that means you don't have to spend any of your hard earned Cheddar to get your voice out to the world. It's easy. There are creation tools that allow you to record and edit your podcast from your phone or computer Ankara also distribute your podcast for you. So it could be heard on spotify apple podcasts and so much more. You can also make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership it's everything. You need to make a podcast in one place. So what are you waiting for download the free anchor APP or go to Anchor Dot FM to get started? Well, thank you so much. David GonNA go into self help portion of the PODCAST and we're gonNA answer some questions. But before we do we like to gather we like to inspire ourselves with a nice quote a motivational quote. So before I get into the one we have I, usually like to ask our guests if they have any inspirational quotes that help get them through their dark days Well I I I mentioned before it's the idea of this too will pass. And what that means is realize what's going on breath through it. And And know that this is not going to be the rest of your life. That's. Just sitting at. And One more quote that was my mom my mom's thank which is. When you`re And this is something that I think is really important. You can't change the color of someone's is and what that means is whatever it is that they're holding onto and they're stuck to their dealing with. That's what they're dealing with that that moment and you just you know you gotta go gotTa step away from it nine some people get it and some people won't and that's that's that's it. That's it. Yeah. I like both of those. Yeah. A Lot. Then you can use both those are none of those I'm GonNa to add it to my pin board of all of David vs quotes that I have. Already. Covered this portion through. God I. Don't think I'm creepy. Five quotes A. Face printed out. And one more thing I have a book coming out. So all this will probably be in the book. Tentatively. Titled a Subversive Guide to improvisation right now we're coming up. Going to be publishing it. With. Probably within the next month. So I'm really excited about that anybody wants more information about that or to put on low-impact mailing. You'll be you'll. You'll discover something from that. there. So now we're now we're back into. Here we go. That's. Great that's quite didn't miss that one. That's a big one. Yeah book also well, those are great quotes were a little ashamed to bring our quote because it's not by a person per se. It's actually by a robot and it's called Inspire robot and what it does is it uses a I generate some of the are take some of the wisest words known to man and just mash them together. So vehemently and produce a quote for us. So we're going to try and decipher this one. Eric is usually are good inspire robot interpreter. So Eric, would you read this week's inspire about quote from our Fan Claudia that she provided for us This, week's interpretation. Encourage honesty by frightening strangers. Encouraged honesty by frightening strangers courage honesty by frightening strangers. God It's just reminds me of like a police station where they're trying to interrogate somebody. So they've got good cop and backup. So he's praising the honesty by yelling at the whole that's being interrogated. As the first thing that popped into my mind. The. First thing that land was I was I'm a mask. I'm a massacre like wear my mask and I'm mask Nazis and I. I walked down the street and I will say to strangers excuse me mask on and I said one guy skinny what you ask on anyone look you did you hear me? Oh. So at that moment, he I got I got his honesty at that moment i. Got Us on a steep. I wrote like that's a great phrase. That's a great quote. Scare the shit out of people and make them say. That is great and you know what? I was actually wondering about the best way to ask somebody to put their mask on I. Don't know if I found that solution from that but at least I got the honesty part. For me just ask and if they're endo-, they're they're not they're not and. My main, my main reason is to shame them so. It's a public service. More for you than for anything Oh my God but. This is. From me about us so we go deal with it. This is my life and you guys are Co Stars. Thank you right. Right. It would be even better if you brought a mask for them just said shame on it or like a scarlet letter ashamed of. Having but anyway. I love that love that cocaine I hear it again, Eric in the Dulcet tones that you said. Share. Encourage honesty by frightening strangers rice. Good I love the. Frightening. Lightning because I e right there. Don't don't neglect the E don't. Neglect don't. Neglect. That's Eric's inspirational quote by. Evening. Now like those assholes who smell it with an A. Arid. Seen that but I think that's a person Eric. I. Think that you're just you're that you're looking for someone to hate. With Aaron and Aaron because there are a errands in e Aaron giant. There are. And there's a round. A Iran Iran? Yeah. Right. At. Wasn't wasn't that one of the greatest sketches. So. Good. So my God, as some reason, it's so impressionable that you just can't get it out of your head. That was I worked with Keegan and I was just director when he was in Detroit and what a match man, what it meant Kagins such match and I worked with Jordan Peele when I was directing a boom Chicago in Amsterdam I met Jordan there the guy the guy that wrote that which Tele Rico is second city alum. And and that is one of the classic comedy sketches we're talking about Kim peels substitute teachers that can't. what was that? Was the name of that writer? Rich Talarico TA L. Tele Rico T. A. L. A. Rico. was telling me. That's GONNA. He's written some great. Just a really great writer and a really good man. And again, I go back to I can't believe all all the wonderful people have had an opportunity to work with. But Yeah Amaral Ron come on Keegan in international superstar international like still glud. Oh yeah, incredible. ADAMNET now that we're all inspired mostly from the the key and Peele, let's move on to the questions. We've got first question. This is from it's found by our Fan Kim. Thank you Kim. says. GotTa Sloppy Tattoo from a reputable. Reputable Artists Advice I got a tattoo from a reputable artists the great portfolio about two weeks ago I paid on the higher end. It didn't come out bad the line work in one particular areas awful though shaky and scratchy and just so obviously messed up it's been pointed out to me constantly there's also a spot where it goes outside the lines I'm just so heartbroken because I want to love this piece, but I can't I'm a mix of pissed and sad but I'm not sure exactly what to do. Any advice helps thanks with the heart and that's sincerely by INC stinks. Would you read the beginning of that again because there's so much bullshit in the beginning and then I just unless in my mind. Okay. Now, listen listen to what she say read it. I'll tell you what I saw. I got a tattoo from a reputable artists with a great portfolio about two weeks ago I paid on the higher end. It didn't come out bad. Okay. I'll stop there. It came out bat honey. Not Happy with. Stocks and just because everything that you said past that point is it's outside lines. It's sloppy. It's not what you wanted. Hopefully, it's not on her face. So like all those things I'm gone I'm thinking you are living denial on a because you've got a Shitty Tattoo. You aren't accepting it and the only source of suffering is non-acceptance. Do that's what you do, and this is what I would do. If I were her I would have another tattoo artist pointing Arrow and say, this is Shitty Tattoo on make. Off makes that tattoo work because there's no other way to make a text. Taken taken having it removed just perfect fine line letters. The. Most Fast Tattoo. You could possibly get saying this is A. Two point. Oh my God. Such a good idea what I got so many questions about that. One is it a tattoo? How big is that? The Tattoo wears the tube because all those things it could be could be a between the boobs tattoos that we're doing their eric. Chess to. Chess. A chest tattoo between the boobs if you need it. Between the booms of you need it between the boobs if you got him. Where's the Tattoo? Is like. Depending on where it's at maybe maybe you can just get a bigger tattoo over it and just cover it. If you're whole chest already. Then that's kind of hard to do. Right. Right. Accepted me like she made. She has I also believe that this isn't the worst. A move that she's made in her life. I bet there's a lot of things where it's like I didn't tonight why why did I have that baby or by the? Married I was told there'd be mermaids. Bought the house it's not bad per se but I just can't live in. The windows are well, they're not really windows their whole and the book jetted out. Yeah. And the neighborhood isn't bad, it's onto. Anytime. You hear someone say that you automatically think. Oh, this person's lying. And whenever seventy says I really like this don't get me wrong if they say, Oh yeah. Don't get me wrong part. It's like, no, you really don't like it. Don't like it just in the you fucked up got a bad tattoo and you're going to have to live with it. I think that. Also find out where where this human got their tattoo in a at what point where I don't care who they got it. From. Any anybody here of these three gentlemen habitat you. Know. Yeah. I have I. Have a few tattoo well, maybe on my Centaur legs but other than that. I got a I got a piece of Pencil lead stuck in my hand from the third grade. Does that count? To look. Did it's kind of inc.. I I went to a barber of this is going to be a long. I went to a barber and he's cutting my hair and he was in employment and at one time, and now he's a Barbara La la and. Cut My hair and I said, we're talking to a gun in his time about this this gig that he got the. Truck down there in a small town and they had no way of getting anywhere and this guy drove by who was able to give them a ride into town and he was just had to artists and they all decided. Let's get a tattoo. Let's get attached to. Get this guy to give us a tattoo and I said, where's your tattoo and it goes A. So he took I, I have to look at this. Because I make sure that I'm doing this right he he took. Wait Hall to hold a Hog Show said he did this he? took his lip and it said. Like, giddy up or something. That said. On his lip like everybody I'm showing I'm taking my low. and. It was like Giddy up and I'm like. Wow I. didn't believe him when he said he was a cowboys like Oh. Yeah. Giddy up. Giddy. Brand. This is brand or selves and. It's like cowboy. GIDDY The GIDDY UP I. Don't know that you got to have the trajectory. I'm the copper upper. Upper. Lip is like the introduction is like. Oh. You. Do. Yeah. Probably lose all your taste buds right. Just, the good ones. You can probably just permanently filled with ink. Yum Yeah now, the all RISOTTO's tastes like they have squid ink goodness because it shows. Tongue Tattoos I. Bet someone has a ton tattoo I wo- for sure untouched you. Absolutely. Maybe this person here because if May. Maybe that's the type of person they are. person who got that Tattoo, it might have been her first two. Yeah right I think she got it in a very public place to like her forearm or I. Mean if she dresses a little more provocative, maybe like Eric said between the the Bubis because she said a lot of people comment on it. So either, she's sleeping with a lot of people which were not judging but now he could be that a lot of people are seeing her naked or people could be passing by and deep. Frightening them with honesty where they're like, Oh, I'm not tattoos not bad nice callback Nice. Nice call back. Why is it look like? Gumby had. So. Anyway I think to cams point. Well David's point the honest to yourself. It's Shitty. Tattoo. Because once you get to that point, then you're going to realize i. either can do something about it or I can highlight it even more and just make that a part of my being because I am proud of my mistakes it's not a failure. It's just a lesson packaged up poorly with mink or you could do like Cam said and you could just. You could make it a little better. Have another tattoo on top of it, and it's like the Tattoo never happened. Yeah. So the Tattoo that never happened. Never happened now, there's the big black square over it. You'll ever know. Do your whole body just that tone. So you're you're committing fully. He would've done that. That's Another guy that at this other place where at the same place where I got my haircut. He had. He had it all man. He had the face. He had the knack. He had the he had. He had it all. At like, wow. Wow. Oh my God not going to judge, but I will say this your life is fucking over, but I'm not judging the resume destroyers you'll. That's exactly it. Yeah. I can choose your problem. I feel like tattoos are also I. Don't I, never got to. So I don't know how much they cost but I feel like if you covered your whole body in tattoos, it's gotTa be tens of thousands of dollars question. Yes I think one little guy who doesn't fill in the lines. But It's not not feeling of. Okay, you can get a little one that costs Poli, eight thousand I. Don't know how much at tattooed across. I'm just depending how good you want it and even then it might not turn out. Good. Feeling, you get what you pay for. This was a good artists like a reputable like had a bunch of followers on instagram or something probably it's still that sucks as you probably paid a lot of money to. His truly a reputable artist. They should. Honestly, they should be able to go back and get them to at least attempt to fix whatever the fuck is going on with it. Work. Oh. You think this is bad. Did the whole arm. Well. Yeah. Anyway. Good luck whoever you are good long. We're going to move onto the next segment of our podcast in the segment, his CELEB-. This is where we give advice labs. Maybe we'd take their actions as examples figure it out, but we have this juicy gossip comes from the huffpost. The title is channing. TATUM. wrote a Children's Book About Dad Daughter Love. So before we get into it, we like to take this time and ask our guests and go around and through some Celeb- impressions. But David can you do any CELEB- impressions that you would like to showcase for? Like when I saw that you did this portion, I'm like. I'm this is not going to be this is going to be my lesson. This is hugging no I didn't I do on. Oh I do want liberty impression and it's really good but it so obscured. Who Else is doing? And then everybody will look it up later and be like wow. Look it up. Really. That's a narrow talent so It's A. Have you seen. have. You seen it's a wonderful life There's a guy in it, Mr. Potter. Lyle Lionel Barrymore. Right how? People. In the world are doing, Lionel Barrymore impersonations now while Davis ask. You mentioned because we also had. That one line no kidding I'm kidding. So. Do. I. Do I do I? Yes. Please take it away. While, doing getting a tattoo no or whatever you want whatever you want. Oh well, I'm going to do what he's known for you know. I'M NOT GONNA. Go. Settle. Everybody knows. All right. There's the scene where A. So Lionel Barrymore is yelling at. the. The star of the movie Anyway so Everybody meets. Jimmy Stewart like Breitbart. So this is this is it so it's Is Him. It's Lionel Barrymore yelling like. Called me wool frustrated or man what are you? Dressed. Man. That was great. Well, done well done. Yeah. You knocked Kim screen off. That was so. Those are. One more follow up. It's accurate but. But. It sounds like it is and I will look it up later to confront these. Look it up later king. How how did you find out? David that you could do that I. Don't know I. Don't know is the same way that I figured I can do the sound of. A wine pouring into a glass? I ready for this yes. please. Oh My God. That's amazing. Around and I have no idea. I don't know all not one day I woke up and. You know he's a natural talent the only way that would be the only way that would be any cooler. To was like, cheers right there as you did it. That is amazing. That's. I guess that's an impersonation of of arose AJ GOING INTO A. Jar. I could tell it was. Beautiful, yeah two, thousand Seventeen Napa Valley or Gene. Right that's great. Awesome. Well, thank you. Those were wonderful impersonations. Eric. Do you do you have any new ones this week that you'd like to share? I don't have any new ones, but I'm inspired now to go after the low hanging fruit of a a Jimmy Stewart impression. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA go for it now. Oh, not right now not right now. Oh okay. Day, but I'm going to consider it. In the David I can go on the road and we can Once, once things open backup and we can do these. Seon the. Movies that no one cares about. Like none of it, none of it none of Mr Smith goes to Washington, we're GONNA do the entire. Washington. Why Why We can use that right now though wait cook we could. We could. Not Not a bad choice in my joking down. So, Eric when you do that, we can both do those we can do that scene from its. Do it. I was I was going to try and actually pursue not now but at a later time a Rosa bottle popping so that our champagne bottle popping. So then we you and I could do. I guess you don't need me I don't know what I'm GonNa do. Anymore. Step up your game son. Oh. God All right. Well, I'm going to pass to cam do have any CELEB- impressions or beverages being poured that you can do impressions of. I, can do can opening it specifically a lemonade truly can. Ready Oh. Beautifully orchestrated. Our listeners are going to be none the wiser that's you get watching the video that we don't publish so. Thought. It was like a cheers my bed. One. That was great. Too, and if you want I can be. Amazing all right we're going to get into the article Eric if you wouldn't mind reading with the bringing back those dulcet tones but share crank it from inspire about to really excited celebrity GOS- announcer. The first WHO's got the channing tatum impression. Oh. I'll go for it. I don't know. I think I'm just across the. It'll be perfect myself I. Guess I bet you already doing it. Yeah. The whole time. All right. channing tatum wrote a Children's book about a dad daughter Love channing tatum just shared his favorite role today being a dad and he's adding children's book author to his resume to the forty year old actor produced and directed on Monday announced that his first children's book the One and only spark Hella will be published. The book according to its website is charming. Oh, to self esteem and the love between a father and daughter. Dies. About you but things got a little weird for me in quarantine. JANNING revenues announcement Monday I ended up accidentally locking myself and my seven year old daughter's room and I ended up finding my inner child. So this is what I created for my little girl from what it is I. Guess the Little Girl in me. He adds. This is also for all dads that might have a little girl where whatever dance however and be as magical as you can. Because I promise, they will return the love. And that's it. I think that's the Dow's the other guy. That's a good end it. You don't you never don't you always in an article on whatever channing tatum says. That's true. That's true. Even where we were supposed to prompt it with a question asking for advice, it just ended with what Tanning Chatham said channel. I mean. Remind me what was supposed to be doing right now because I got a bunch of fucking comments about this. This is a good time to add the comments in because I, don't know what advice we can give to change. This isn't advice I mean for me like right I accidentally locked myself in my daughters, my seven year old daughter's room what how would you? Why would you lock the door? Like what's the PERP you door lock works? Are you familiar like you have to do the maneuver to lock the door and if you're in their accidentally logging into nor do you accidentally locked the door two, three, a million questions way down the line what was your intention going in there in the first place where you hiding there we were. Doing there what we're doing there, and you know what they didn't believe in there was the detail of how long he spent locked in there I bet it was probably a good month and he could get out how to get out and then yeah. Well, he found his daughters crayons, the April Creole and he was like book when he came out so they're like, I. Guess we should publish this because channing Tatum, he wrote a book. The. Ghostwriter. Quite is the book about did it say did I miss that part? About A. Charming owed to self esteem and the love between a father and daughter. That's not what it's about the theme of it. So his daughters. That's true. That's very true. And the title is called the One and only spark. How do we feel about the name of Spark Hella? It sounds like spunk. Ella. About with your daughter. Oh. Yeah. That's that's like teenage book or or above I think someone said. channing. channing but his name channing stove, you know any names any at He's he's he's dealing with a channing name. That's true but we don't know. So I got a lot I. Have I have more questions too but the big question is, how do you lock yourself in that room? How long were you there and did he say the little girl in all of us? The little girl all of us. That's right. Can you read that line the Little Girl in me? In me. Yes? Yes. Yes. That's true Yep. Yep. So I created this from my little girl from what it is I. Guess the Little Girl in May. Maybe. He spent longer than a month. I think channing TATUM has lost his mind I. mean whatever mind he had left. It's just. So you think he spent longer than a month locked in his daughter's bedroom. May. Simply. And he found the snacks under the bed and so he was able to survive on that. But I feel like he was in there long enough like solitary confinement for channing tatum and his daughter starters probably a lot more independent than channing is since he can't get out of a daughter's bedroom so. I mean God I think this is just a ruse. You know what I think. He truly wanted to write a legit book and then they came back and they're like this is fourth grade reading level we're going to have to ask. This is okay. This is a children's book. Now, we're going to have to tell. You know I bet he didn't even illustrate it. Oh. No, he'd. Jared. Uneven. Just, a grab it. Clearly, this is a PR move in. So he's how old is this story? Pretty fresh the story. I think it's about a week. Old Oh look. During he wrote during quarantine. Cams got it preordered. You knows. Yeah. Actually really excited for this because. You don't mind. I'm picking it up. There's there's there's there's I, want to know more about the story. I also wanted to a friend of mine wrote a book, but he told me I wrote a book but what he really road was a pamphlet. It's not like like. This isn't. This isn't a book tribal old. It's basically like to trifold stay together and. Write a book you wrote a pamphlet and it's maybe just a just a just a a a an amalgamation of blurbs, intelligence players of. It's not a book. It's not a book, and so I WANNA know how how long along his focus and was it options? So that's another outlet. Play Spark Kelly in the movie Sorry cal spark Kella that sounds like a rap name to me spark Hella and like baby. Rip off from Cinderella or Spark Ella Fitzgerald. Oh. Nice. David, we might have to have you come back when we have this ordered and shipped to our house, and we'll do a reading. Wait tonight, just discovered that you all live together when you say our house, we're all different rooms, but we actually hate each other we can't stand each other but we get we get together for the podcast. We get together for the guests. It's like the kids we're like you know what? Let's just pretend like we love each other and then we hang up afterwards. The kids. It's Just, like channing. When you said, we're supposed to be giving advice like what advice are we supposed to give people from this book I'm not really. I because I feel like advice. Oh, it's for channing. Advice me PR moved moves. Here's here's the advice don't lock the door. You probably have the childproof channing tatum house. I what his daughter locked in there. He didn't even actually his daughter was like hoops daddy again, open the door. Or Scott One of those you put it over the handle. So just spins and the kid can't open. Right right. It's childproof. That's really channing group. Room we clearly. This. Group from the inside it's coming from the inside. I wonder if the family even noticed that he was gone. had. Better to you I mean I know where to pandemic but yeah, this is the third. Way. and. Then he came in his son's room. Like the neighbor's son's room locked in the car lot car dog locked out oh God. TATUM series. Liked. Locked in the DOT. Edu. So there was there was there was a series of crime novels where it was like a is for adultery right? Be As for blood see is for. Whatever. Chicago arrive. Right crime and this'll be locked. Closet. Car Locked Enough Museum. Second is a good idea book. Pretty I, I think if we do it from the perspective of like a four year old, it could make for some really ripe reading. I love it. All right. Well, good. We've given channing some good advice. So anything else before we move on. I want to apologize to channing for not knowing. Anything about him at all I don't know anything about him at all. And this is again old man. My girlfriend has her finger on the pulse of what's going on with most of the world. So I would go who has hey, it's a heat, right? That's yes that's right. Who is he and she'd say you're not gonNA, know it's like okay. I'm sure Shannon's got other preoccupations on his mind play. He's probably locked in another room right now. So I'm sure here's another thing I. Don't think he knows who the fuck I am so fucked that guy. Step Up. You've never seen step up. Magic Mike. No I and? Just making up words not just making off. The Boundary Huber. Bar. Kella. Killing. All right I guess. June. Spark lsu Furious Kat, I'd love to see but. He's the he's the titular character. Eric. That's really a good word, his word on you, Eric. My calendar today. What? This is GonNa that you knew that word this whole time you know yeah, this is. If you're if you're as you are accurate your in the music industry it's his titular album and we know that he just has named it right? Yeah. Right. All right. Good titular being title titled Character Leading. Yeah yes. Thank. A lot of people what chiller? That's all I did not I didn't die. That was like one of the well, maybe I have maybe I wasn't listening I wasn't sitting in life and so I was on my fucking phone being do. INSTAGRAM somebody said Tischler and it just went out. So thank you Eric Thank you David for stopping to help absorb it because now I feel like I'm Never GonNa Forget Tischler. Education for the PODCAST. Exactly Ller it, and you don't think you're gonNA miss the educational portion. That's right because it'll pass by than channing tatum book. So with that. With that, we have come to the end of our podcast but before we end a wanted to, we wanted to extend a huge. Thank you to you David for being on. Aukin, you're welcome I. Loved it. It was really great. I had no idea like like a good scene I had no idea what I was going to experience or what I was doing. Every moment was really awesome. It was great. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you and. Cam We talked about this nobody we also wanted to ask. We'll. Ask You. Where can people find you? What Ki-, what have you got to plug I? Know you said at once but if we TITU late on it then people. I. Don't know if I'm using it right I'm still trying to you know what? I? Think I think you came up with a new word I don't mind that at all. So I'm very specific on what social media I do with what? So I do most of my political rantings and using the fuck word in facebook and and twitter twitter. Instagram is mostly about food pictures of which I am fantastic rast Hashtag grass eats food I'm not kidding you go Hashtag razzies food you're gonNA see some great food. And What are the other ones? Yeah that's about it so A www dot David Rozanski dot com. There's some really great videos on their of shows that I've been in people that I've worked with. And that's where the podcast comes in. So it's add comedy with Davis Ski I've got probably two hundred and fifty episodes since I started writing the book I put it aside but the one that you mentioned seven is really great. Steve Colbert. One is Great Steve Carell. One is really case. and then there are people that people don't know like There's one. A guy named Carl got lead and Gauntlet nearly he's. He's a history of improvisation he with the committee, but he wrote this movie. Called Jaws. Down he wrote this other movie where you go, how did one prison right? These two movies the jerk he wrote both of them. Wow. He was a guest on my podcast and he was fantastic. So it's like a little repository of improvisation in stories and it's been really great. It's just really great and I WANNA come back to it as soon as I can. But as you know, the podcast is a lot of work. It's a lot of working together. That it is that it is but you know what? We'll make it a little easier for for. Some more fans will put a link to everything that you've described in the show notes plus the podcast plus those three highlighted episodes. So I feel like they're good. Pallet pellet introduces they're not cleansing. Cleanser from? Our. Shady podcast get. That's right. Well off really fun y'all he's been really. It's been a blast. Well, thank you so much cam by the way I cam and Eric, do you guys have anything that you guys WanNa Plug? Not that will be coming out timeless comes out. No children's books okay. All right I'm still writing. Awesome well, thank you everybody and we'll talk to you next week. Bye Bye. Later.

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From Stephen Colbert to Camembert: The Journey of a Cheese Board Queen

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From Stephen Colbert to Camembert: The Journey of a Cheese Board Queen

"Hey everyone welcome to Radio Cherry Bomb. The number one female focused food podcast in the universe. I'm your host Kerry diamond coming to you from Cherry Bomb World Headquarters also known as my apartment in Brooklyn and I'm getting help today or rather no help at for my rescue cat dusty. That's okay because we have a great show planned. Did you notice last year? That cheese boards started appearing everywhere. If you thought twenty nineteen was peak cheese board. You were wrong. Were nowhere near the peak. I know that because today's guest is instagram. Cheese Sensation Mercer Mullen author of the new book. That cheese plate will change your life. It's not hyperbole. Folks stay tuned and find out how a cheese played really did change her life as fun and crazy journey. That takes us from Steve. Colbert takamine bear before we get some Marissa. Let's do a little housekeeping. If your Radio Cherry bomb listener you might not know. That Cherry bombs started as a magazine. 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Detaille I was always my mom's just like you can do this. I came from a very visual background. I loved photography. Videography actually studied music industry and communications in college by cheese was always kind of this love that I had on the side and so I made that chiefs played in college in two thousand thirteen as a way to document my play creations that had make with friends with we'd have wine and cheese parties and every time. I'd make a cheese plate. I realized that I built in the same order every time. And so me coming from this visual learning background I kind of blended that with a paint by numbers map like when you're a kid and instead of colors the numbers were actually items on chiefs played. So one is cheese to is me three. As produce for his crunchy Adams five as dip sixes garnish and a friend of mine. Who I worked with. When I graduated college I worked at the late. Show Stephen Colbert and a friend of mine. There was an illustrator as a hobby and she used to illustrate all these doodles for Colbert instagram. And so I asked her one day she could draw chiefs play for a tote bag that I wanted to produce and so she illustrated when my teeth plates and I was like this. Is the perfect cheese map. It's the by numbers map. So we through numbers on it and that was kind of the first iteration of it. I love that. It's so clever when you go through that instagram account. Swipe through the CAROUSEL. You just can't be struck by how clever you are to come up with that. It's so it's one of the things that's so sad and all but it's somebody like you to bring it to life. Yeah it's funny because the swipe to build which I call it kind of the carousel sleep. That was again sort of an accident because at the time she's by numbers where these maps and I was I was trying to basically the concept of cheese by numbers and having mile straight or make all these maps list put together my very first book proposal back in Jackson. Seventeen which didn't work out at the time. Tell us why it didn't work out only because it's encouraging to people because you do have a book coming out and it's it's good for folks. No I think when you hear this person has a book. This person has a book you can be like. Oh it's so discouraging but it's not just you don't just get handed a book deal. No no it is a very difficult process. At the time I was working at the late show with John Not. He's the bandleader so I was working in the music industry. Traveling a ton still doing instagram on the side. Just because it was truly a passion project of mine making cheese plates always been this way for me to decompress after a crazy workday. And it's one of those activities for me. Were time sort of slips away and it's like it just like nourishes you. I always want to write a cookbook about g slates. Because they're a so beautiful and be there's so much that goes into a cheese plate to talk about and it was twenty seventeen. I was home for Christmas break and I just had this idea for the first time in the longest time I had free time. Actually think and that would be really cool to write a book. I wonder how I could do this. And I texted a friend of mine. Who has a book out not about food at all? Just a book. In general she was the only person I knew who has a book and I asked her. Hey how do you write a book? You publish a book and she was Nice enough to kind of show me the ropes and she introduced me to her book. Agent typically how it works. It's funny because it a lot of the publishing industry really connects to the music industries. I feel like I was able to really understand kind of the process because our seventy similarities. But essentially you need a book agent who put together a proposal with you and then you pitch this out to countless publishers to hope that someone wants to sign you a book deal so she introduced me to her agent who actually lives in. Brooklyn and I met with her. I prepared this cute little like powerpoint presentation of my chiefs play. It's actually found it the other day and it's so simple and it was back when that she's played at about twenty thousand followers. She's by numbers. The instagram didn't exist yet. I didn't teach cheese class. I had barely any press and at the time I was like. Oh my gosh this agent. She's interested. I'm going to get a book deal and I was so naive to think but it was such a crazy learning curve because I spent such longtime pain together. This proposal is about twenty six twenty seven pages. We pitched it out to twenty publishers. Every single person rejected it. Oh yeah and it was like slow rejections to like at first there was like nine to and then like ten would come in. And she's like I'm so sorry. Oh the rough. The main reason was because they were like we love the concept Cheese Bhai numbers. But you don't have enough followers on instagram. And you don't have any press behind you. So how can we ensure that this? Is You know marketable and at the time. There weren't a lot of cheese plate books out on the market. There are a lot of cheese books out that really dove into cheese may gang and very into like artisanal cheese world but not so much making a cheese plate because the landscape of instagram. At the time in two thousand seventeen you did not see cheese words everywhere you looked it was just. It was a new a new idea. She's always been there but the style that I built them in. It just wasn't really a thing yet and so luckily this was just my passion project. I still had my full time job so I was disappointed but I kind of use that as fuel to keep going. I'm with strong believer that every failure comes growth and so I just kind of made the cheese by numbers. Instagram in two thousand eighteen. Just to be like you know what these publishers don't know what they're talking about. She by numbers the great concept. I'm going to make this instagram. I'll show them and then I started teaching my cheese classes as well because a big goal of mine was to make this instagram something. That's tangible something that you can do in person and do with your friends so the cheese by numbers method basically these cheese maps. My illustrator couldn't illustrate as many as I was making. So I'd send her all these photos of cheese plates and she's like whereas I have a full-time job to I can't be illustrating like five a week for you so I realized okay. Well I'm going to do this thing called Swipe to build and basically make this six step process into an easy thing that you can swipe on instagram and that kind of took over the cheese maps in a sense so because it was so much easier for me to snap six photos at them together. Put Him on Instagram Didn't have to go through the work of illustrating everything but then I put her to work with my book now because she illustrated off cheese. It's that's amazing. What a great story you know in less than three years time. You build up all those instagram accounts. You've got over four hundred thousand combined followers and you've got a book that's out right now. Yeah IT'S INSANE. It's crazy thinking back. The growth really happened once. I started putting cheese by numbers to us because I think that method really took something. I mean so many things on instagram seem so intangible in a sense because you know it's like you see this beautiful recipe year. This beautiful achieves play and you don't know where to start to build it. You're like that's just that's unobtainable as instagram. But she's by numbers takes it and breaks it down into sections. That's so easy to replicate end so I think providing the service for free for people to just you know. Here's a grocery list. This is how you build it plain simple it really resonated and in November of twenty eighteen. I got an email from the Rachel Ray Show and they reached out and they said Hey. We found cheese by numbers on instagram. We'd love to have you on the show and this is continually. I thing where people find cheese by numbers and don't know about that cheese plate and I feel like her about it. 'cause I'm like that she's plate was the original like come on back but at the same time like it's they're both me so it's the same thing so Rachel Ray was a big place to debut. And she's she's a blast. She's amazing. It was so much fun. They didn't WanNa talk about that cheese plate because it was too confusing with these two instagram's and at the time I didn't really plan on cheese by numbers being anything big because it was at about two thousand followers when they reached out then went on the show and we did a little segment together and overnight it went up to fifteen thousand followers. Says like okay? Well now I have to achieve accounts and I need to figure out how they're going to work together instead of you know having all these followers dispersed in different places go back to when you were a little kid. You said your mom would have you do these boards and she's plates because your family entertains a lot. Do you remember what your favorites were when you were little thinking back to when we had parties and started entertaining as a big sharp Cheddar Fan? I really like the sharp cheeses. Also I remember eating like this is funny but I think I was probably like twelve or thirteen. I remember eating aged Gouda and tasting that terracing crystals like the little crunch in there and thinking to myself like this cheese. I don't know what this is but this is not American. Cheese isn't so good. I mean at the time I had no idea really what it was but that like crunch I will remember forever from like twelve years old but then once I got into high school and my dad started cooking more. He works from Holloman he kind of picked up cooking as this hobby and went full on into it like making his own pasta. Just doing all these like fun. Small dishes he really introduced me to the world of artisanal cheese and so he would get mount. Tam by Calgary which is still in my favorites such like a cow's milk camber style. I have that fridge now. Actually it's amazing and then later one that it's so decadent it's basically just this. It's hard to explain but Super Super Gooey creamy cheese that we'd put on lake cracker is with fig jam and then that kind of opened up my eyes to the world of artisanal cheese and one of my very first gateway cheeses into the artisanal world in college was humbled fog which. I think is is event favourite for a lot of people absolutely? And that's my start learning. That I loved soft ripened goat cheeses so I feel like it's every every cheese that I tried opened up this whole new world of the different style I didn't even know existed because I'm not a cheese monger and I do want to i. I would love to go to like cheese monger training school eventually because I feel like I've learned just from talking cheesemongers from going to dairy farms from being around chief so much but there's just so much more to learn it's like the world of mine you know it's like there's so many different styles and history and culture that just ties into the entire cheese world. It's just fascinating to me. Have you been able to go round and visit some of the different cheesemakers? Yes so as being a what they call cheese play influence or a quote unquote some point. We had a list at Gerry. Bottom called cheese flu answers. Oh my God. That's the worst word. Because I am a toothless influencer. I get to go on cheese press trips. Which has been the best? So last summer I went to cinema. We did like a a wine and cheese trip where I wasn't on the press trip but I was. Stop the press trip so whoever went with me and I did a cheese workshop with California Cheeses. They were like okay after you teach the workshop. You're done you can go home will. What's on the schedule for tomorrow? They're like visiting dairy farms. When like can I stay like sure so I jumped on the press trip and we went to point? Reyes which also we only went to the facility. They're not the farm which I would love to see the farm here. It's beautiful and then we went to Nicasio dairy which is Beautiful Hill looking over the amazing farm that was owned by families for decades. And then I've been to Wisconsin where he went to uplands farm which is another beautiful farm. Run by Andy Hatch and they just love their animals so much and they do rotational grazing so the cows are grazing on fresh grass. Every day. It's just seeing that process the behind the scenes. You just see like how much hard work goes into farming. First of all and how much hard work goes into cheese making like you need to be so on it with the health of your animals and then the temperature humidity control of your aging rooms and the style cheese at you're doing. How long does it need to age for just being there firsthand in learning all that like being able to see it again for me just being a visual person it really clicked and just made such a difference with me where I'm like? You know what I need to really really make an effort with this platform to talk about local dairy farms and talk about art behind cheese. Why was twenty nineteen thousand nine just this year? Where the everything board exploded. So I don't want to say that I like started the trend. I did it lined up with this crazy. Press boom that I had wear after Rachel Ray was on the today show and talking about cheese plates today show and then after that I was in a vox article and then refinery twenty nine and then push them who. You're even a push. I was which is like very mainstream. You know it just like skyrocketed to the mainstream world but I did. I did a lot a lot of press last year in all of the markets you know and Melissa. What you're saying is we can blame you. That's what you're saying. I don't also I don't know 'cause I honestly live in a bubble and I am so out of touch with trends to be honest. I haven't watched tiger king. I don't know what's going on like I'm in my own world but I have seen so many cheese played accounts pop up over the past year. Who follow me so I feel like because the cheese numbers method made building a cheese plate so easy it kind of encouraged people to try it out and yeah I think like especially with the holidays that came around. Cheese plates in general are popular thing at holidays but now that people can make these like instagram. Where the boards so easily. I feel like that definitely helped. The trend boom okay. So we're we'll give you the credit we won't make you take the blame. How about that okay? Perfect that's great but it is interesting. I mean you can apply to so many other categories of food cookies candy et Cetera. Shirt Kuri. Of course you know has been around forever but it was really interesting to see with every new holiday. That came how people were were doing. Different kinds of boards I even saw instead of Like Easter Baskets people were doing Easter Candy Boards. Which I thought was really clever. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with Marissa after this quick word from Cypress Grove. If you don't know the story behind Cypress Grove the leading producer of delicious American goat cheese. Well gravity is bored and gather round and involves mom on a mission and a herd of goats Mary Keane the founder of Cypress Grove wanted fresh goat's milk for her children so she wound up with some goats and more goat's milk than she knew what to do with. Mary taught herself had to make cheese and helped kickoff in artisanal cheese making revolution in the US. Fast forward today. Cypress Grove is an international award winning cheesemaker the promotes humane goat. Dairying is still proudly based in California and is known for its gorgeous cheeses like one of my absolute favorites Humboldt fog. The distinctive soft ripened goat. Cheese WANNA try Cypress grow for yourself. Call your favorite shoe shop or visit the cheese counter at your local grocery store you can also visit Cypress Grove Cheese Dot Com for store locations. Perfect cheese pairings and more back to my conversation with Marissa Mullen. You even mentioned before we started recording French fry boards. Yes tell us what a French fry. Boorda's yeah so I saw this recently FRY board. It's a it's basically. You put different types of French fries on board with different dipping sauces. So there's Tater tots curly fries shoestring fries which I don't really understand because the beautiful thing about cheese is that you leave it out and it gets better when you leave it out like you're supposed to leave cheese out for about an hour. Free Servant for maximum flavor but with is will just get cold and soggy. So you really have to eat it right away. I won't lie. I wouldn't mind having a Frie- board I do like different. Things dipped my fries and two. Oh Yeah I mean French. Fries are definitely my second favorite food behind cheese which are condiment of choice when it comes to fries who I really like Ketchup and Mayo together. They do it in Europe a lot. Like my one of my favorite COMBOS I. I'm a big fan too. Okay fancy I do like. May I like Mayo with my fries? I always ask for a little so good. So let's talk about your day job. Did you quit Your Day job? I did yeah so I put my day job almost a year ago from today. Actually when you said Stephen Colbert I'm leaving you to go make cheese plates. What did he say he actually so I scheduled a meeting with him to tell him and he's such a great guy like one of the most amazing bosses as everyone's name like nothing bad to say about him. And I was like Stephen I have this instagram this project. I'm writing a book now. It's the saying he was like she's played And then he goes into like a fifteen minute monologue about how you make the juice flight. Oh my God I wish you recorded a and I was like showing him. The cheese by numbers map like. Oh Oh so you put. You're putting through on their two. Oh you're putting Rosemary sprigs okay. Like it was so funny but he definitely supported it and John. Batiste who I work directly with for the longest time. We went on tour together so I was his. I was the house band assistant at the late show and then got promoted to house band coordinator so I basically was like the coordinator for the band on late show and then I ended up working for John. Batiste of the show as well for his management company so I would go on tour with him and tormented him on the road as well as run his social media. I directed music videos for him. We were just like creative duo which was a lot of fun because we got to do a lot of fun projects together but he supported this hundred percent and we would be in like cities in Wisconsin. This one time for a show like John. There's this crazy cheese shop here. We have to go and I'd like bring them with me to the cheese shop so he always knew that. This was a thing that I had on the side but I don't think either of US really expected it to take over and for me to leave my job in music. It's funny with the timing of everything because when I got rejected by all these publishers I was just so busy working literally two jobs at the late show with John. Batiste off late show and I really didn't have time to stop and write a book because that just takes such energy so much time but when I got my book deal last April Islas at this point in my job where I was a personal assistant for four years. I was ready for that next step. I didn't know where I want to go. I thought I still want to work in music but there was no place to really grow in John's company so I was. I was at this crossroads where I was kind of ready for the next thing. And then all the sudden like this opportunity came to be and it it gave me that leap of faith to be like you know what now is the time. It wasn't the time before its time now. I can feel it like follow your tuition and I quit which a lot of people were like. Why are you leaving the late show? Stephen Colbert for cheese plates. And I'm like guys trust me. I think it will be good but it just don't really get to follow. Something that was an is a passion of mine. You know like seeing something that I created from the ground up in college and having it be such a amazing place for inspiration for other people and I knew that it was something that I had to do for myself to really express my creativity to the fullest to Stephen. Colbert is blessing. I remember I don't know win. This was but there was an episode when someone gifted him his head made out of cheese. Were you there for that? I do remember not only. What was that Where they like. Somebody get Marissa in here. Well actually they they use me a few times because there was a there was a scene once with cheech and Chong and they were talking about how unpasteurized cheese as a legal in the US at night and they're like legalize unpasteurized cheese. Like in the Cheech and Chong voice and they're like we need a cheese plate for them to hold up and the props department slapped me like Marissa. Can you make a cheese plate in the next hour? They let me go to the store and via the ingredients in that made it useless Premiered on the show which was great. That is the most random story ever. See Verandah. Yeah but hey made a tooth for teaching. Chong so there you go. I did yeah. I did so went. Aside from having the book deal and an increasing a base on instagram that was increasing all the time. You must have had a few other things in place to have the security of leaving a fulltime job. Were you getting sponsors at the time? Were your classes getting more and more popular our those things going? Yes so with my business. I make a lot of income from instagram from sponsored posts. So I've created a network of a lot of cheese connections. Honey the thing about cheese plates is there's so many items on cheese plate and so all of these companies reached out to me so like companies represent cracker brands honey brands Jan brands cheese cocoon Boards themselves ramifications. I sprinkle in my sponsored content here and there enough to pay my rent and those opportunities sort of grew as the brand started growing so like last year. I did a partnership with whole foods and I did one with all the and what is all all the is a supermarket chain. They started in Europe. But they're opening new places here. Yeah it's kind of like a trader Joe's ask but I also signed two when I signed my book deal since I did it without oaks. I forgot this part so my agent ended up dropping me after I got rejected by all the publishers. So I didn't have an agent at this point which like again like you sort of need an agent or to get a book deal but after I was on the today show. I got an email directly from the dial press which is an imprint of random house and their a new imprint. And it's all about inspiring stories and so they emailed me and they said Hey. Have you ever thought to write a book and I was like yes? Actually I I have and time met with Cleo from the dial press and she was like. I love this concept. I really think this could be a great book idea. You have an agent and I was like well. No I don't but I'm open to finding one so I sort of did the book thing backwards because I got offered a deal but then had to find an agent because you can't really do all like the logistics and the contracts yourself with a publisher. There's just like so much going on with that that it's helpful to have an agent and the whole process of writing a book. So I ended up interviewing agents instead of them interviewing me and signed with William Morris last year. And with wwl me you know. They're such a massive organization so when I signed with them for my book deal they were like okay. Well here's your endorsements agent and here's your podcast agent and here's your TV film agent and I was like Oh okay. Well I guess this is going to be something bigger than a book and that's cool down. Let's go so they've been helping a lot to just kind of bringing in new opportunities for me with Geez that's great. So do you have a podcast in the works or TV show in the works I have? Tv Show in the works. Can't say much about it yet. But we just finished the PITCH DECK. So that's exciting and then I have a really fun product. Line coming out in twenty twenty one that. I can't really talk about yet either. But it's GonNa be great okay. Well we're very excited for that. Let's talk cheese by the numbers for a little bit. Let's walk people through sort of a taste of your book what they'll discover in the book if you had to pick your absolute favorites put cheese play together and you don't have to pick your favorite cheese because I know that's probably like you know impossible for you. But what's a great starter she's played? That's still pretty impressive. Yeah so like basics. She's played so I will pick my favorite cheeses just because gotta show them love. I Love Vermont. Creamery cream on it is a soft ripened goat cheese. I love all Vermont Cheeses. Feel like they got something going on up there like Jasper Hills. Amazing by said probably often goat cheese. So when you make cheese plate you want a variety of cheeses. So whether that's cow's milk goat's milk sheep's milk or hard soft stinky. You just want to kind of present all of the different styles cheese out there. So I'd say do. A soft ripened goat cheese. Do a maybe like agree air or an aged Cheddar your sharper cheese and then throw like a blue or awash ride on there so something a little bit stinky and that way you can kind of get all the all the different flavors going and then step two and she's by numbers is music and so I coined the term called the Salami River which represents meet flowing down center of plate. And this isn't yeah. This is a stylistic to sloppy river you can also if you don't eat meat you can do a cucumber river. Whatever you want but this she's by numbers. Method is kind of the staple for that. Nice focal point in the center. And so I like to use Genoa Salami or supper. Sada are kind of my favorites. I feel like cheese and Charcuterie. Our best friends. You know when you're pairing you WANNA do polar opposite flavors or similar flavors so the salty fatness of cured meats and cheese. Just go really really well together. So that's kind of my my season. Meet Combo I also like shoot up to a great choice yet. That's kind like the the starter pack. We can go into like a more advanced on with like SAUTEED TURKEY SAUSAGE. But we want to all right now okay. You mentioned if you don't eat meat. There are also well those fruit and nut. Salamis that they call them. They're basically just in the shape of a Salami. So there's this amazing fig Salami from farms and they make they make like seven different flavors of Figs Alami and I actually have in my book the Fig Lami River Plate which features this fake Salami instead of Salami so then step three of cheese by numbers is produce so this is sort of stack where you can tie in color and produces a great pairing for cheese because it doesn't overpower so something like a cucumber or a blueberry or raspberry. It has sweetness or fruit has sweetness to it but it won't overpower cheese. And then the same thing with vegetables like they kind of have a neutral flavor so I I sometimes these cucumbers is like a healthy cracker option because it just has that crunch to it but for produce I feel like this really ties in the element of colors like painting with your produce in so I like to do a selection of Berries. You can do raspberries blackberries blueberries. I love dried fruit dried apricots dried figs fresh figs or great as well and then you can go into like the more briny item so like Castelvetrano. Olives are great cornish great so this part of cheese by numbers step three covers everything that is a fruit slash vegetable item on the plate and then we go into step four which is crunch and so crunch basically everything that is crunchy. That is not a fruit or vegetable so crackers bread nuts. You can do dark chocolate. If you're making a desert play that will go under the crunch section. My favorites love using flat bread crackers. Those are fire Hook. They're great company Bayside. Dc There's some of my favorites. I also love like a fresh sour dough Brad. If you're using like a creamy cheese that's always good and then with nuts you can kind of sprinkle in you fill in the gaps with the not so I like using almonds like macron are really good you could do like cashews macadamia nuts kind of like whatever you're feeling in the moment. Those are all very rich nuts. So you like those with cheese. Yeah I like the rich nuts because I feel like they again kind of with the the fatness of the Charcuterie fatness of the cheese. The kind of tie in that richness whereas the produce bounces it out with some more lighter flavor just like more healthy healthy balanced to all the sadness. The plate Marcona are so good. A they're amazing they're just doused in olive oil. The best at the statue are also great but always have like a little ball side for your shelves and so that's kind of the crunch section which is step for step five is depths so on a basic cheese plate for starters go to favorite is fig jam. I think they jam is such a nice contrast for a salty fatty cheese. Any sort of jam works but the flavor of fig jam isn't too overpowering Lee sweet like something like a strawberry raspberry jam. I also really like Red Pepper Jelly. That's really good quince. Paste is a great option as well. And then if you're again if you're going for something. More savory mustard goes really well with a lot of different cheeses as a whole grain. Mustard is really great. So that's when you fill in your items also honey. Honey is one of my favorites to pair with goat cheese or blue cheese. I love honey cheese. And that's where we kind of tie in the polar opposite tasting notes whereas like we got the Cheese which is the same and then you go left field with something really sweet to tie in that whole sweet and salty and then the last step is called garnish. And this is the step that you don't eat but it's more of just the Cherry on top so I love to garnish my cheese plates with fresh herbs. They smell amazing. They look amazing. It kind of just like elevates your place that next level so I use fresh rosemary with Mozzarella and tomato. I'll do Basil Garnish If I'm doing like a springtime plate with strawberries I'll do as garnish. And this kind of paints the whole picture of your cheese plate to make it look very fallen abundant. I've been playing around with edible flowers lately which has been really fun to Just learning about that whole world of edible flowers so I love using like pansies marigolds. Luckily where I am right now. My mom is a garden. Were starting to grow I actually just planted in. Herb Garden. Bought some edible flowers and they're so patiently waiting for them to grow but that just kind of puts the Nice little finishing touches on your plate. That's so nice and you really amazing you've just made it so easy to follow. Which is why you have a book coming out. And you're you're so popular but you've just really demystified the whole process and just made it so that everybody can put a beautiful. She's played out there. So it's almost like when you're painting the Bob Ross painting tutorials those that's kind of reminds me of you know because it's like you're just gone step by step and just follow the steps and you'll make a beautiful late painting can eat. You are the Bob Ross of cheese their worst things to be known right before we let you go. I WanNa talk about any of your cheese monger friends and cheesemaker friends and just if you know how that community is doing right now Yasser. They are struggling right now and it is really tough. I think I mean a lot of the artisanal. Cheese companies rely on restaurants for buying a lot of their cheese and because restaurants aren't really functioning right. Now there's a whole gap in the market. A lot of these farms are actually forced to dump their milk. That's been so sad seeing that on the news. I just can't believe so sad and right now it's the spring. It's like the most amazing goat milk and like there's just so much amazing milk right now because of you know the temperature and the climate but yet they they've had to dump milk. People are really really struggling and what I did on Instagram is I just launched a local cheese challenge so basically what this is is encouraging people to shop at their local tree. Shops shout fairfield. Jeez where I am and support their local teashops. Because at these teashops they source amazing cheeses from these small batch producers from these local farms. And then you can also buy cheese online. Where you know. A lot of these farms are putting their cheese up that you can just order for shipping. I actually have resources on my instagram. For that. Allowed different farms are doing online shipping as well as doing cheese boxes so old. Chatham Creamery is actually doing one called the cheese care package and it comes with a variety of cheeses from their farm as well as from the local farms around there. So that's not a great option to you can order these delivery boxes. I believe Calgary is also doing line with their types of cheeses in a box you can order. So there's a lot of different options out there to support the local creameries and I'll continue to update my website with more resources. I Find Melissa. Thank you so much for all your time and for walking us through how to make a beautiful cheese plate. Tell us about your book one more time. Yes so that she's plate will change your life. It is out on May twelfth and it is fifty different. She's plates for all different occasions. How to build them including some recipes to your plates and Roxie through the cheese by numbers method to build the perfect cheese played every time I love it. I'm ready for my life to be changed by a cheese plate. That's it for today. Show thank you to Mercer Mullen that she's played. Change Your life out now be sure to order a copy from your favorite indie bookstore. You can follow me on Instagram at that cheese plate end cheese by numbers. I'll be taking part in Marissa's local cheese challenge on instagram to support our cheesemakers across the country. And I hope you do too thank you to the winds of Rio haw and Cypress Grove Cheese for supporting the show radio. Cherry bomb is edited by cat. Garelli our theme song is all fired up by the ban. Challah hanging there everybody and thank you for listening. You're the bomb. All have what she's having. Hi My name is Sarah Hendrix. 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That person has a sings the blues and then from new york city john dickerson of cbs's sixty minutes. Hello john hello. David hello emily. I feel like i've been talking to you guys. I know we've this is our. This is like our fourth hour together in the last thirty six hours and did more to come. And we had a co. We had our live show last night. we have. There's been a lot of singing. Our bodies electric get. I am not yet sick of you. I'm not yet sick of you. I can't seem to quit you guys on today's gabfest is this coup. It may not be succeeding and it may be ridiculous but is it actually an attempt to overthrow what how american government works. And what is protecting us. We're gonna be joined by tim. Wu scholar who has a brilliant op. Ed in the new york times today about what is protecting us from a disillusion. A collapse of the american. Then tim is also going to join us. Because he's an antitrust expert. Par excellence to talk about whether facebook should be broken up. The ftc and forty six state attorneys general say it should be. Are they right. And then we have an amazing topic. John flensburg who is a significant chunk of they might be giants. The wonderful band has written us a question. A really good question in the form of a song. So we're gonna hear the song an answer the questioner plus of course. We'll have cocktail chatter. We are joined by tim. Wu professor at columbia. Who has a really really interesting piece in today's new york times. What really save the republic from trump and talk about what really is saving the republican trump. Cross fingers fingers crossed but i'll read one paragraph. What really saved the republic. Mr trump was a different set of limits on the executive at informal and unofficial set of institutional norms upheld by federal prosecutors military officers and state election officials. You might call. These values are unwritten constitution. Whatever you call them. They were the decisive factor. Tim welcome to vest. It's great to have you here pleasure. Yeah i wanna start actually with you emily. Which is that we have. It's kind of terrifying freaky world. We're gonna get to the somewhat reassuring. Things him has to say a minute. But this week seventeen states have joined texas and filing a suit to overturn the election results. It is going to be doomed. But it doesn't mean that it's not a alarming that there are so many signs of weakness in the american system. But can you talk quickly about this lawsuit and why it is so concerning. Yeah i mean this lawsuit is like a new level of crazy which is saying something. Because we've had so many crazy lawsuits but what's so bananas about it. Is that texas now with all these other states. is arguing for throwing out the results of other states elections based on no evidence of fraud just based on the idea that texas and these other states don't lake the mail in balloting rules that these other states passed. Never mind that a couple of the states that signed the brief have similar rules for example allowing people to return their absentee ballots election day. So the states have control over how they pick their electors and they had set up rules before the election and for so many republican attorneys general around the country to want to take part in this performance to show their loyalty to president trump. It's just really disturbing. It's gonna further undermine faith in the integrity of the election. This legal argument just is honestly ridiculous and it's distressing to think that the pressure trump has exerted to force republicans to go along with his notion that this was not a free and fair election that it's bearing fruit in this way even if it's not a way that's going to overturn the results These public officials are you know. It's just really playing with their oath to the come to put the country. I i would argue. So i want to turn now to. Tim's piece so tim. I gave one paragraph about it. But i can you quickly just make a summary of your argument about what are the protective forces that have saved us. And what are the things. That didn't protect us that we thought were going to. And maybe they hadn't saved us also. Maybe they haven't saved us Yeah that's true. You know if we could if we ended up having a civil war in two weeks. I'll have been proven wrong. But the core of my argument is that the separation of powers system for restraining. The president is a little overrated And that the real When push came to shove it wasn't as madison hoped congress that constrain the executive but it ended up being these kind of unwritten norms about how prosecutors the military and election officials conduct themselves. So it's sort of an unwritten constitution suggesting or a sense of professional duty. That really saved us this time. And you know just to say really quick. I mean the most obvious one to me is the fact that the prosecutors didn't obey troms orders not orders but his leanings his encouragement that they criminally indict the biden family or biden In the lead up to the election that they refuse to do that. maintain their independence. Remind me mind was was pretty important to keeping the republic a democracy. I mean how much of this is is law. How much of this is the custom of profession. and how much of this is the individual behavior of particular officials. You also talk about brad. Bracken's burger and brian camp in georgia who have stood up against pressure to overturn the george election. What's striking to me is how little of this is law. There actually is nothing in the constitution that says that a prosecutor has no duty to obey the president in fact that the text the constitution might suggest the opposite. And so you know in another world you could have seen trump. You know quietly order. Let's say the. Us attorney for delaware who he appointed. So you know oh something that trump say. Listen i want you to file a criminal indictment of hunter and joe biden for bank fraud statutory rape. I want you to do that if you don't do it. You're fired and there's nothing textually that prevents the president from doing that. Similarly the military. There's nothing that prevents trump from or a president from deploying active military to put down an insurrection and in fact he has the explicit authority to do so under the insurrection. Act and so over the summer. When there were protests cross country there was nothing legal that stopped him and so i think it was the a baked in. I mean that's what i'm calling the unwritten constitution. The sort of baked sense. That you don't do that you know that. That's just too dangerous a president who can order prosecutors and military officials to do exactly what he wants for. Political reasons is a dictatorship. And i think our our norm saved us this time around. I wanna pick up on david's a use of the phrase custom of profession because it seems like these are ideas their abstract but in these two professions the legal profession in a because. I'm kind of throwing judges in with the prosecutors because some judges who are appointed by trump have kept faith with his custom of the profession that that are basically keeping customs based on abstract ideas and that the military and the legal profession kept those and the congress where they talk about these ideas and they talk about them at funerals and they talk about them people retire and the durability of those ideas that they basically folded under the competition between abstract ideas and political success or political gain is that does that seem a frame for the way to think about this. Yeah i think that's absolutely right. I think we should try to understand what happened with congress. Congress was intended by the framers to be the major check on a potential you know monarch or a a tyrant and they were very aware you know the framers when they sit this up they were very concerned about the fate of republics they had the the english republic whichever forgets about which became a dictatorship under cromwell and they had the roman republic which became dictatorship under under say there so they had these these clear examples in front of them they wanted to stop it and their idea was that congress would be powerful enough to stop it but it didn't happen and you know i it's interesting that's why i think we should spend a lot of time thinking about this but to my mind the key is this virus of party loyalty and this idea that your duty to the party is higher than your duty to the constitution and like you said you know they never say that oh congress people still will call the senate the world's greatest deliberative body although i think at this point my college debating team had better debates at least people showed up and they put party loyalty i mean even payment it wasn't it was just another party line vote everyone knew it was gonna fail without a sixty votes it was it's all become predetermined and i guess that punishments for going against your own party leader are stronger for members of congress than they are for judges prosecutors and generals and maybe that has something to do with it. I mean that seems key to me right. That congress is not insulated from the base. In fact congress has if you're republican in congress you have all kinds of electoral incentives to put party loyalty. I or to put really loyalty to president. Trump. i because that's what's likely to make popular with your constituents and win your next election whereas prosecutors judges election officials. They are insulated. You know they're often career professionals. They have different kinds of standards for getting fired. Basically and that allows them to take into account these other values. their professional norms are strong. But if you took away the kind of job protections they had and you made them subject to election you know like if all the federal judges were elected would we have had the same kind of standing up to trump's ridiculous election suits i dunno. It's important that we haven't aren't hopefully aren't having four more years of this. Because trump was trying to erode those norms and change them you know. Those people are sort of insulated now. But they can be fired so would say indict hundred biden or you're fired. He didn't don't do it. You're fired until someone comes along. Who gets the job and those are pretty nice jobs for a lot of people so you could change the norms. And i think he was trying to change the norms even in my own little backyard. The fcc you know a One of the commissioners is sort of far right-wing guide dared suggest that The internet was protected by the first amendment and he was summarily like not fired but not to reappointed so trump was trying hard to change those norms and get through that installation. But i agree with you. There's something now at least the politicians feel it more directly. I mean it's the most heroic figure in this all of this for me. Is georgia secretary of state. Who i you know. I don't think he's his political beliefs as political views or certainly not mine and i don't think he's done anything that's amazing. But given the amount of pressure on him and the amount of pressure in the system against him. Here's an individual who really really stood up and took an enormous amount of personal abuse and threats to his life. But you can't It against his party and did you. Can't you can't plan. You can't rely on a system where people accept martyrdom as the price of doing their job. So how how are we going to make that. What what. He did the norm rather than what everyone else wants to do. The norm for elected officials for the people who are for the people who are political figures. I mean he actually is elected. No no i'm saying. Yeah we're talking about the professional people. The judges the military lawyers behave differently because their incentives are different. But can you can you. Can you create something which is slightly more protective for elected officials that allowed them to pave honorably in the way that this guy has behaved. Yeah i think it's hard to notice your instinct goes immediately to that sort of checks and balances. How do we structure this better. And i hear i hear you. I think hopefully from this experience. Hopefully you know. The state elections officials feel kind of vindicated. You know they sort of held on mass as as a team and established. Hopefully some norms of professionalism for themselves elected. And i agree. He's a hero. I mean he is a relatively minor elected official looking to have a political future and he stood solid other than taking elections away from the states. Having election officials federal judges. It's not one hundred percent clear how you would do this. I mean thi when tested they held and i think one of the best things we could hope for is that maybe this helps establish norm which has been the norm that this is a professional job and people do it in a professional way. But i agree. I think it's the most vulnerable speaking of heroes. I wanna give credit to the military. To i was sort of take for granted that the us military stays out of domestic politics but that is not the norm for this continent now no north and south america nor in many european countries and that is to my mind. The most dangerous of these possibilities is the military getting interested in politics deciding it kinda likes being involved and never going to getting out of it and i thought it was impressive. That general miley issued that apology like in a video. You know the guys pretty senior guy and he says i. I shouldn't have done that. And i was in the wrong place. Wrong time against his commander-in-chief so yeah i think they actually think that was a big moment in. Us military history. You know it wasn't exactly storming the beaches of normandy but it was an extraordinary extrordinary emission and confirming of a norm of political neutrality. That's a really great point. There was a restraint there to withhold with a grabbing power that was essentially freely being offered to them More broadly than just the behavioral local elected officials in how you grow more of that beyond the question of of dealing with elections isn't the isn't what david's asking. What how to elevate the power of ideas which is to say the power of the constitution over the political incentives and then. I guess launching from that. Tim i wanted to ask you about in your attention. Merchant frame and and worldview whether you think the continued shredding and a of the way we have public conversation exacerbates this problem. Exacerbates is one of the structural incentives. That makes it so easy for lawmakers to choose party over over the constitution. Yeah i mean. I think the answer is yes. Obviously that mike appealing to micro arguments micro audiences which is a trend led first by advertisers. Find out niche markets for. People who like microphones for podcasts. Or something and then you turn that into. Let's find the argument. Who believes that prosecutors should be free to indict the political opponents of the president and there is a market for that knows a lot of people jumping up and down on my twitter. Feed saying that. I've identified every aspect of the deep state and these are why all these firewalls need to be eliminated immediately so that the the ruler can have his say i guess one thing just reflecting on the structure for a second. It is crazy that the secretary of state should be an elected position in the states. You may not the national secretary of state. Yeah sorry. I mean that. It is crazy that the official in charge of elections should be an elected official as opposed to an appointed official. Ideally one with a long tenure. Or something i mean i guess it comes from some older vision of democracy is being a check but it seems very dangerous and we were lucky that people held but i could see that as the norm most endanger of eroding. But there are a few states that do it differently. Wisconsin has that five member commission. That's appointed by the governor. I'm not actually sure that turned out to be better. But i wonder if the fact that the secretaries of state is elected as saved by the fact that they're lower down on the ballot. There like you know nobody really knows. Those people are most of the time. It's not like a super sexy. Glamorous position they will now leap into the governorship from usually and maybe that saves it and makes it possible to have those people elected without to threatening. But don't you think they will now. They'll care a great deal about those races. Yes it's true. We see a lot of money coming into those races. Like the you know they have into state supreme court another state tradition. That happened in two thousand four with the ohio secretary of state and blackwell. Who was a huge deal. Huge deal that there was this quite conservative secretary of state in ohio in that election. And and how. That presidential election played out so. I don't think we've heard this before. Right in the bush versus gore florida's story also with. What's her name controversial. Exactly what through. Lean kathleen i was gonna say katherine katherine katherine harris. Nice okay. well that's my lane okay. Let's leave it there. We're going to stay with you. Tim sure we right-back in a second. We're not going anywhere. But i wanna do mitch. I do want to mention that slate. Plus members get bonus segments on the gatt. Best and other slate podcasts. 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A suit filed by the department of justice against google for monopolistic practices around search and advertising. So tim wu staying with us. Tim also reminds us. He wanted joined us and i will. We will take the credit that his own opinion writing career began at slate under the tutelage of emily basilan olympic. So nice for us to have had a small part and helping tim become the giant the monopolistic giant of campaign. So either timour. Emily tim what are what are the basic legal claims that are being made against facebook here. And where do they come from. And how do they get resolved. The claim by the federal government and the states is that basically facebook is an illegal e- maintained monopoly. That is to say they don't argue. They got their monopoly illegally. They think they be my space. Some other companies fair and square. But they believe that in the twenty tens facing a challenges to their rule essentially that facebook engaged in a number of illegal maneuvers which kept it on top when it might have otherwise have fallen prey to competition and The the basic conduct that they're focused on is a string of acquisitions which they allege were intentionally done to neutralize a competition. The states put this very vividly. They say they scan the horizon. They saw a bunch of companies. We're threatening and they decide to either buy them or bury them. The big buys were instagram. And what's up and there's a whole bunch of companies. You haven't heard of that they buried. That's the argument that it is not a legitimate monopoly. That illegally maintained the federal government. The obama justice department approved the. What's at purchase and the instagram purchase. Knowing that facebook was the company that was buying them and that these were to growing companies. So is that desposited for facebook. That's a common misunderstanding. The federal trade commission didn't approve the mergers it took no action on the mergers and that made sound like a detail. But i think it's an important one you know like for example when they didn't prosecute jeffrey epstein and twenty two thousand and four or something. It didn't mean that they approved of what he had done. You know it just means. They didn't take action and emily is an expert on on criminal law enforcement practice but generally speaking when you don't take action it doesn't mean you approve something that matters and so legally in the court of public opinion maybe it matters but legally. I know there's no sort of binding precedential effect of not having prosecuted earlier. Had reasons for not acting on those mergers at the time when when facebook was buying instagram. What's up everyone thought. Google plus was going to be a big deal. Do you remember. Google plus asu out there somewhere in the ether. So the idea was face folks in trouble. Google plus is can eat their lunch crazy. We gotta give them a fighting chance or whatever so. The facts were not well understood at the time but became clear. In retrospect that this was more of like a serial acquisition campaign. And i think that's what they're alleging google minus. So i mean tim you in lots of other people and i have been very sympathetic to this. Argument have said for a long time. That facebook should have to divest itself of what's happened instagram. That basically the dominance of facebook qual- the website. Facebook has just multiple times greater. When you add on these other services which are more popular with young people which are popular abroad and have much more growth potential and yet we haven't had the government common in an antitrust enforcement action and break up a company since they broke up. At and t. Sell off the baby bells. Which i think was like in the nineteen eighties since then. We've had this standard take hold in the law about any trust enforcement that the only kind of harm that really counts is harm to consumers about price. So it's only when an anticompetitive monopolistic behavior makes things more expensive for consumers that the government can step in. Now that's not. What the antitrust laws say like. That's nowhere in the sherman act. But that's how courts have interpreted that law since the eighties. How big a problem is that. Here that is that standard going to really trip up. The government is trying to argue that the market would be more competitive in this kind of hypothetical universe in which facebook does not own. What's happened instagram. You know the times they are a changing. The government is depending on older types of theories actually more similar to standard oil than any sort of very precise idea that hey these to milk producers merged and the price of milk went up by fifty cents or something. They're relying on a case like standard oil but also microsoft. And i don't want to get too much into the weeds but the basic idea is that it is anti competitive to kill your competitor's and and that's basically what microsoft said if you remember a company called netscape ages ago when they polished off netscape. They're like you can't just kill these guys and say that's that's fine. You can beat them in competition but a- limiting them something different so it's on that kind of theory that the government is but i you know there's some challenges for antitrust laws dependence on consumer welfare. They do have some arguments. They can say well because facebook insulate themselves from an -opoly that has kept advertising prices high for digital ads. because there's really two big players in the market and for this kind of advertising facebook social personal social networking. there's just facebook and so they've been able to get away with much higher prices so there is a price hook. If you really need one. Can i ask a question about the weaponry that the government is alleging facebook us which is to say that it's powerful data cash and that one of the examples that is used in some reading i did was when facebook denied divine from accessing. Facebook's you know friend lists and that kind of thing which which which choked off vines the video services growth. So i guess the question is. Why can't facebook hold onto. Its carefully gathered user data wise company. Wise that bad for me to do that. Yeah i think that's say a harder part of the case for the government for precisely the reason you said but the idea is that once you become a monopoly. Almost an essential monopoly. Your duties become different than a normal company. Your local website has no particular duties. But once you become the central platform and you're sort of picking and choosing who you're going to deal with and then a discriminating against those who are competing with you or you find competitively threatening. That's that's a problem. But there is counterargument. Said their data. Why not let them do what they want. And i think that kind of a core dispute in the law. Frankly two questions here to jack. We're going to get to a point where google amazon and facebook in particular will be treated like public utilities where they because they are so dominant they have to act in certain ways that are the regulated like utilities are regulated. Where they haven't been that's the first question. The second question is really about. Maybe the trial strategy here. Which is that i. We worked at microsoft back when microsoft as being sued by the federal government and microsoft. I think nominally basically won. That case didn't lose that case they weren't broken up but it was so taxing it caused so much friction on microsoft that it's clear that microsoft is a company was deeply weakened and it did allow competitors time to catch up and do things and gain on them not microsoft still around today. It's still tremendously powerful and rich company but it did not as dominant as it was. Do you think the trial strategy is to slow facebook down and cause them distress such that other people can catch up or is it really to break it up. Those are big questions so number one the public utility question. That is a matter for congress. There are rumblings of such an approach. I think the most obvious target for such an approach is amazon not the other companies because a public utility when you think about it is a company upon which a lot of other companies depend on and you can think about electricity or some something like that or the phone network. I think the first instinct is is amazon. Maybe apple with their app store because you know the amazon marketplace has become something that's so many businesses depend on that you sort of feel like maybe they should have some duties to be fair and non-discriminatory and how they operate that marketplace it's just so essential and say maybe for apple's app store and google search so that that's where you would see a public utility law if one showed up but that is legislative not to be technical but that's a law that congress have to pass and figure out some category like electric utility. That made sense for them. The second question is a very deep question. And i think is less a matter of trial strategy and more a matter of almost political theory as between the relationship of the state and its greatest monopolises. I think that the antitrust law in my thinking is kind of a proxy for the limit the public limits or public checks on the concentrated power of a monopoly so by bringing the bringing of an antitrust action has as you said with microsoft. Its own significance You know that was a statement that in some ways lesson. You cannot do anything you want. You're going to reach some line. And they microsoft lost in litigation. They didn't get broken up but they lost the litigation. And as you said it. Most importantly prevented them from doing what they had been doing. That point which is they would take over a platform and make sure the microsoft stuff products one never lost. And by that point they controlled the browser so there was a different alternative future where they made sure that being one and their version of whatever their mobile operating system one when you know once i had a chance to corner bill gates at a party and i could to be posing as historian you know. Gently led them to the question of this of this issue. Of what was the effect and you know. He kinda got thoughtful for a while and he said it. It did. take me down a couple pegs. A i had a lot of things. Go go right for me in my life. And i'd won a lot of things and that was like the first time i really really lost something. And so that. And he said you know it made me to philanthropy about seven years earlier than i planned and he said but it might have been good for us and for me because it kind of reoriented how we did business. So i think there's no getting obsessed with one loss in a very narrow sense i think is is to myopic dovetails with my piece about norms and ethics. I mean you're trying to send a message. Which is that. Competition is not all whole no-holds-barred that if you do some things you will go too far in the federal government will come and challenge and i think that's the most important things about these cases against google and particularly facebook which is it killing. Your competitors is not a business model beating them is a business model but killing them poisoning them. Usurping them should not be a business model. And that's like the core message of the sherman act tim. Wu is a professor of law university. Tim that was fantastic. Having you for those two segments on such short notice come back anytime. I may take you up on that. This was fun and now dear listeners. We have such treat. They might be giants one of the most intelligent and find bands in the world. And jon berg Is is the creator of that band and he. They've guessed it on our show. They were on the conundrum. Show a couple of years ago. And john burke has written us a song which we now have to answer. Because there's no question owned specific real reassessed as the banding. God's to future a holding my light up there that was awesome so there are two interpretations of this question. One question one interpretation is are there any norms that shouldn't have been norms to begin with so that now that president trump has dispensed with them. We can agree that they were stupid. And then there are others which are are there any norm which have been treated as norms but actually need the force of law the more the force of be more than just more than just agreement as we talked about in our segment with tim wu. Just the agreement to behave is maybe not enough. Sometimes so anyone start i have. I have a bunch in both categories. Here's one that is kind of small. I think telling here is a norm. That president trump broke that. I think we should keep broken. We've in the past had rather dignified announcements of supreme court appointments. I'm not really recommending. A continuing of the norm of the superspreader event on the white house lawn for amy kuney barrett's party announcement. But when president trump announced justice course itches nomination. And i think cavanaugh. He did it on prime time television and he did it with like celebrity and pop and circumstance and lots of attention and a little razzmatazz. And i think it's great. I think people who don't pay any attention to the supreme court got some sense of justice gorsuch that night and it just brought the whole The court to the floor of the nation's consciousness in this primetime kind of way. And i think why not. It's a little you know crass but like whatever great worth it or john paul's out legal john wrong. I think no no hold on a legal pad which made me think we're in for. We're in for a bumpy ride or long. No no no no well first of all i really admire that you went at what norms that he has shredded. And what would the way they met. This is confetti after the parade and we have to tape the confetti back together that like the norm shredding is so vast and also the pieces are so small. This is a real task. And i love that. You started with things that are gone that maybe should stay on. Because that's something. I wrestled with in the book and it was really hard to find ones. There may be some others. I would interject quickly. It's the excessive deference to military generals. Trump has not shown that at all and i think you see debate about that with joe biden's decision to nominate lloyd austin. That's a great example. John great example. Yeah you so. We can play with that but just on your point emily. I haven't we discussed though that the president's elevating his role as the supreme court picker. This is basically. Do we deal with the world. We wanted the world. We have that turning the presidency basically into a job where where you just pick. Judges has turned it into a job where basically his allies will let him do anything as long as he picks the right kind of judges and that that elevating that jaw that judge picking part of the role. Which putting it on television does further warps the beauty of the presidency and makes it so much about the judge that that people basically don't look at the end of the other things the president should be able to do. Yeah i mean. It's obviously taking trump's affinity for television and the apprentice and putting it in the service elevating the role and importance of supreme court justices. I was thinking about it as someone who watches the court for a long time and it's constantly frustrated that the density and opacity and just complicated nature of its rulings often turns people off and makes it all seem mysterious. And so i liked how earthbound and you know primetime. Tv that was but that's a good way to all right. Let's actually let me just quickly jump in with my one norm to shredded norm to keep shredded which is in the same vein and then let's get to the ones that that should be more regulated mind because mind was sort of the flip side of yours emily which is actually think trump is so bad at doing most of the head of state things the traditional state things like national mourning like like being a dignified presence at a at a at an event at an international event that maybe we should have a head of state. We should have a person who is like more official dignified person rather than expect the president to do this and like instead john. You've talked about this a million times but instead have the president Do the job of being president and have it be slightly less public role instead. Have more like a queen figure to be ceremonial you lose no opportunity to long for royalty exact opportunity. You are not watching enough of the crowd because that is a mess. I am sorry having paid zero attention to the royal family for my entire life now. I'm watching one season of the crown because it's about diana. The only person i know exists in the royal family and it is bad but i think just to interject quickly before you move on. I think we can examine the some other time. Because i think joe biden is trying to do this. But you know there's a model of ceo where you have the ceo micromanager and then you have the ceo who is an orchestra conductor and who basically sets up an organization that works. Like you're saying david. Which is he empowers people and gives them such free range that effectively become hit that his role is allowed to benefit from the ceremonial aspects of it and he can use that in diplomacy or sorry in politics as currency but he's not so down in the weeds and there might be a way to do that organizationally without having to do it governmentally all right. Let's talk about things that should be codified. john. I mean the list goes on and on taxes. Let's say you're a shame tax returns care for president until you release your tax returns done one nine statute your build like a straw between justice department in the presidency. So do you want the independent counsel statute back. What you want. You're gonna tell me what. I what i really really want. I don't know. But i mean we've seen you know we well. I'll stop there. Emily couple from you. I think stronger disclosure laws. I mean i would really like stronger. Campaign finance laws. And i think they're actually linked although that's not an arm that trump broke. But i think knowing where our money is the money that is influencing Politics comes from is really crucial. That we've really weakened all of those protections david lightning round. Okay lightning around. Not just the tax thing. I actually think you have to put your finances in a blind trust control by figure because too much room to screw around with that appointing temporary cabinet level officials for an indefinite period. That's appalling we can see that. The regularly the trump cabinet officials appointed in normal order are generally much less horrible than the earth sats toadies that we ended up with running things like d h s because they had to answer to the senate and the senate took it takes. Its job seriously. Even if it's controlled by the party in power. I saw or sets toadies when they open for. They might be giants by the way rate. Will you're also talking about the norm of consent. The power of the senate right which we are seeing shift in real time as republican senators threatened to potentially not approve basic biden cabinet appointees and. I think we should have some kind of rule. I guess that maintains a distinction between the appointees of the president and the judicial branch right. The senate has the power to advise and consent for both of them. But if you don't let the president have his appointees in his own branch unless there is like a clear conflict of interest or some ethical violation some you know. I don't know criminal indictment if you don't let him have those people were her then you can't do the job that's not the same as confirming judge for lifetime. That's true although. I guess what i'm talking about that. Which is i would not want. A president biden or any future president republican or democrat to do what trump has done which is to put in a whole bunch of officials who never have to go through a public accounting process. I mean we have all these people who are now running the defense department running. Who are we. Don't know anything about them. Insofar as they have a public record. It's terrible and the idea that they can just sit and serve and serve and serve as one hundred eighty day. Terms is bad. that should may allow. You're talking about the flip side. This is like both sides of this problem right. I mean in trump's case the senate he controls the senate it says something about the low quality of his appointees that he didn't want to even put them up for confirmation or couple others. John what else can i make a an adjacent point. Which i think is important that i've been wrestling with. Which is there obviously these things. We're talking about which are basically ways to way to lock in things that were done before by agreement so that's crucial and necessary so but there is this other thing which i am wrestling with. Which is we also have to reassert the the other norm that you can't ever lock in with laws. Which is that basically. When we pick these people to lead to be president they have to have the two aspects of character empathy and self control to think about future consequences of events and not just be day trading presidents and my concern is a how you do that. Basically how as voters we do that and that weather focusing so much on the laws you have to put in place to codify these norms. Take some of your attention away from that. Other part which you can never legislate out of existence which is the total lack the requirement. I should say for character. Because that's so important in the job. And there's no way you can legislate in a in a way that solves for deficiency of character. I have a couple quick other ones. There needs to be more clarity about the law. About when members the administration have to testify and have to produce documents. Yes congress's power of subpoena. Yeah more importantly documents courts cannot continue to allow this just to run out the clock presidents to run out the clock or and to refuse to present public evidence to the public who has paid for that all that material to be gathered. All that work to be done. And congress should have extremely extremely broad powers and the courts should respect it and enforce that and even if that means and i think it would mean a republican senate will be calling biden officials to capitol hill all the time to testify into to rake them for some tiny misdeed and some program. But it's it's much better to have that than the alternative where we never did a public accounting and then we could figure out a norm in the middle like if the courts were willing to fast track these cases that would do a lot. Yeah and then one more. Which is i guess. It goes to your original transparency. One of you guys mentioned is is this not revealing who the president and his aides met with is is really also very bad that that i understand for national security reasons. You can't say. I had a meeting with the israeli ambassador at the saudi ambassador privately that i can understand you. Don't do the the kind of level of domestic chicanery that goes on when you know that administration officials are meeting with this or that lobbying this or that ceo with no accountability. And that's that's bad. That shouldn't be allowed to more. It should be clear that obstruction of justice applies to the president in a way. That doesn't require a piece of smoking. Gun evidence that is impossible to come by. We had a lot of ambiguity about that with regard to president trump and the pardon power. I think it should be clear that the president can pardon himself. That would be a good rule. And i also someone on twitter suggested that if you'd pardon yourself or a member of your family you may never run for president again and i also like to that idea that would that be justiciable. I mean could you put that law in place. I don't know. I mean. I guess congress could pass it. I mean all these things are doing could be seen as interfering. But i mean two terms for the president. 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There are out on the plant in the planet hidden gems of like this totally lost time. That are just sitting there waiting to be discovered so glad you brought this up. I love those pictures. Yeah and actually. I googled that park that they're in. They're in the national park in columbia and a the photos of the park. Just the non non image. It's just stunning place. My god it's beautiful so it sounds like it. Sounds like estimate all right now onto my chatter. While i am sipping a glass of wine from our sponsor x rs napa valley bordeaux blend. I will be chattering about the new armando nucci movie which is streaming on amazon. Which is david copperfield. It's a an adaptation filmed adaptation of david copperfield. One of the most beloved charles dickens books of my beloved childhood books it stars dev patel as david and hugh. Laurie tilda swinton. Ben wishaw some ways. It's very like little women if you saw the movie little women and that it's about it's a fundamentally it's about the creation of an author and the creation of a book and the creation of a book about the author and the poorest nece between fiction and one's own life when you're a novelist but compared to little women it's like quite accurate and not that it's not nearly as beautiful and fun and and sentimental but by armando nucci standards it is. It's quite sentimental. Armenta nucci standards. It's like a cat photo. It is much less much less each other to shreds their mouth. Yeah it's much bigger than new and it's a good. It's a good evening spent especially if you like the book. what are you gonna be chatting about. Emily basilan. I had a trip down memory lane this week. Because i was reading a story in bloomberg businessweek by as may deprez. I hope i'm saying her name correctly. Called how mandela lost moms and it was about the medalla pump in style breast pump. And how it's basically like lost market share to new companies coming up with like smaller cuter little breast pumps. You can even like wear while they're pumping. I actually had to leave the story and go google these other companies to go. Look at this idea because i couldn't imagine it so i spent a lot of time with breast pump when my children were babies and it saved me. I mean it allowed me to work and continue to feed them breast milk for quite a while. Which i wanted to do but it. Is this like weird. Sort of i mean totally uncomfortable. Like awful thing where you're being milked like a cow and the notion that there could be better products coming along felt some pang of nostalgia from adela swiss company and gotten this market early and really did a great job getting its product women but the idea that it has nice sleek competitors with names like willow lv and spectra and of course. Now there's an app where you can track how much milk you're producing etc. I'm sure anyway. It all made me realize that my children were grown up. And i wanna know from much newer moms than me. Whether these new cute breast pumps really work pump. I love that phrase pump in style. I remember we had a miguel now listeners. You've given us excellent. Excellent chatters you tweet them to us at slate gabfest and this case someone tweeted deemed me directly charlotte robson me an architectural digest article. And it's a great article about how earlier pandemics changed home design and pointed out that things like white tile in kitchens is something that came out that hospitals began to use white tile. Because you could see things on it you could see the you could see the stand. You could see the blood with easy to notice the grossness and that was made it easier to clean and that move from hospitals into kitchens the powder room ground floor bathroom was something that came up. Because some people had so many delivery people traipsing into their houses to deliver them coal. An ice and there was concern about whatever germs. These people were carrying because they were going from house to house to house and so the development of about downstairs bathroom where someone could clean up a delivery person clean up when they visited you is is another example so great story in architectural digest before we go to credits. Are you still looking for the perfect holiday gift. You probably are. Maybe go to the slate shop. Everything is thirty percent off at this late shop. You can get a slate logo sweatshirt for just thirty four dollars. Visit shop dot slate dot com discounts automatically applied a checkup. That's our show for today. The gap that's is produced by jocelyn. Frank researchers bridget dunlap man. You guys have been working hard. My god who has been working hard the last few days. Thank you so much. it's ridiculous. Gabriel roth aditorial director audio june. Thomas is managing producer. And at least. Marie is executive producer of sleet podcasts. 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I mean you basically would want like a minivan at least if not. I've never stayed in an rv. I kinda wanna at some point trout. Go around the country in an rv. But i have to actually find out what that would be like my thought about that question and i was like oh in our view be great and then i was like i don't want to drive in. Rv it's not very pleasant to drive an rv So i wouldn't want to have to be the driver in that. I also love campground. So i wouldn't wanna miss out like pitching a tent and stay in campgrounds a bunch so maybe forget the rv and just go with the minivan depends on what kind of. So let's imagine you couldn't go with your wife and kids. Which are your spouse kids. Or girlfriend. Kit that obligatory ads are dispensed with because that does bring some lure of the rv. But because if you if you could if you had to go with one of the person that it'd be interesting what qualities would you want that person to have but but patients but if you had a car. 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Equine Forum - May 16th 2020

The Horse Racing Radio Network Podcast

1:59:38 hr | 10 months ago

Equine Forum - May 16th 2020

"From the rail to your radio fitness is the horse racing radio network. John by unfurling fifty foot bathroom outside side a second audible still regard house. One Victory Gallop astill buddies Kobe. Real quiet worry. Victory Gallop is totally real. What hundred twenty foot running up the Kentucky Derby? Welcome to the equine forum presented by foreign paint Dot Com for outside elite. Run from Giacomo Giacomo. Surging a fleet alex closing arguments jock all those titles. Dr To interview one thirty one now. Here's Mike Hello again. Everyone a very pleasant good morning and once again. Welcome to the show. That launched a network. This is the equine forum presented all month long by FAR PAINT DOT com here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Mike Panel. Berna the backstretch with you for the next couple of hours and happy to have all of you tuning in across North America on Sirius to nineteen. Xm Channel Two. Oh one on our affiliates in Lexington Louisville across the country and those listening digitally. And you're doing that. A horse racing radio dot net while some welcome news to begin. Today's show and I know that many of us have been anxiously waiting to hear these words since early. March racetracks across the country are beginning to reopen. And not just in this country would bind CEO. Jim Lawson announced this week that he is hoping for a return to racing. In early June Churchill downs Santa Anita and Golden Gate all getting back to racing this past week or in the case of Churchill this weekend and this past week we saw charlestown resume racing. Their schedule began after nearly two months of racing hiatus and the result was a new track record for the largest non charlestown classic day handle in track history. Four point. Three million dollars was wagered over the course of the nine race program that represents the fifth largest handle in the tracks near eighty seven year history spectacular charlestown vice president of racing and sports operations. Eric Zimny was quoted as saying that there was unquestionably a heightened morale at our property. Tonight which is a very welcomed sight during such a difficult time. Perfect way to put it. And that's going to be the result at many tracks which are now reopening not necessarily the lofty wagering numbers. Although we have seen these numbers be strong throughout the pandemic is racing has pretty much been the only show in town when it comes to sporting events but the immeasurable boost in morale to those employed by the race tracks and the horsemen who will now have additional spots to run their horses and make money. That shouldn't be overlooked. That is huge and this past Wednesday. I spent an hour visiting trainer. Amira Shockley on our trainer talk show and you might say who you probably should because Amira has yet to saddle a horse. She worked for Gary Contessa as his assistant for about ten years. And she we gary retiring. She has now taken over training of many of Gary's horses but as I said she's yet to saddle a horse because she is based in New York and as we know. There is no racing at Belmont Park. At this time I think most people anticipating we could see racing in New York in early June. But even that isn't a guarantee at this point in the game so Amira isn't able to earn an income to support her business through purse money. Which means that she is being forced to survive solely on the day rate that she charges for those seventeen horses. It's hard enough to get your business ground when you're a new trainer but try doing it without a place to run your horses. And that's the situation facing so many trainers in areas like New York where we don't have racing yet. Churchill downs that numbers it first of all the cards at Churchill and Santa Anita. This weekend are great. They are spectacular and a lot of that has to do with the fact that so many people have been Jonesing for an opportunity to get their horses into these races and now we have that opportunity. Then Huffman the racing secretary. Churchill has done a fantastic job. I talked to him on the phone earlier this week and I congratulated him on the programs that he's been able to put together and in typical. Humble Ben Hoffman fashion. He said well it helps when you're the only show in town and it does and I asked Amira during the interview with her about the way you can go back and here that entire trainer talk show on our website at horse racing radio dot net the full hour visit. She was outstanding But I asked her the question. I said listen white. Why don't you take your horses in go someplace else? Likes Churchill where you can have an opportunity to run those horses and she pointed out the fact that it's hard to get into these other tracks right now you can't it's it's not. It's not like we're accustomed to seeing in racing where you can just ship your horse in here. Ship your horse in there and run and then shipped back out. This is a different world right now. It would be too difficult to try to get into those other tracks and and quite honestly she probably couldn't so she's playing a waiting. Game Blake Bensaid. It's easy birds helps. When you're the only in town it's good to see Churchill as the show in town here in the bluegrass. I know everybody across the country and certainly here in the Commonwealth excited to see. Churchill back in action. They're going to be highlighted that Saturday program. Today's program highlighted this afternoon by the return of Champion. Monoploy girl and this is cool. She makes her first start. Since winning. The two thousand eighteen breeders cup distaff at Churchill downs. And we know how brilliant she was hoping she can return to that same level of brilliance as she gets started again here on May sixteen but a year and a half later. Michael Dub the owner amount of boy girl is going to be with me at eight thirty five eastern time looking forward to that visit hill. Talk about what these past months have been like this past more than a trying to get her back to the races. So we'll talk to Michael Dobbin. Eight thirty five Darren Rogers the director communications at Churchill. Downs will be with me at nine o'clock eastern time Mike Willman director publicity at Santa. Anita will have a preview of their opening weekend and what we can expect over the remainder of the meek. Keep in mind with both Churchill Santa Anita any of the tracks that are opening now that missed weeks and months of running. That means that they're steak schedules. Everything is going to change. It'll be different than we're used to seeing. But I'll talk to Darren and Mike Willman about that In their in their segments this is also supposed to be preakness stakes day. We'll have an announcement later today on NBC as to the new date for this year's preakness but obviously is not happening this afternoon. Scott Wycoff is with our affiliate. Wbal in Baltimore. He's going to be with me at nine. Twenty looking forward to that visit to because Scott has been around the preakness for a very very long time. He's been covering it for be a AL and he'll have a chance to share some of his favourite preakness memories one of my favorites. That immediately came to mind as getting ready for the show was A FLEET ALEX and scrappy. T remember that unexpected confrontation at the top of the stretch. Were a fleet. Alex almost bit while you did. They pretty much went to his knees and was able to recover and still draw off. That's a moment will look back on when I got out of the program at Nine Twenty. So many great moments in it's sad not to be there the preakness stakes was our second national radio broadcast. Check that it was our third. We did the Belmont stakes in two thousand seven as we were just getting the network off the ground came back. Got The rights to the Breeders Cup later that year and then in two thousand eight was able to start broadcasting the preakness stakes. We've been doing that ever since same with the Breeders Cup and pretty much the Belmont stakes do. I think we missed one year in there but yeah it's a special special day for me personally because of what it represents but I know it's special to a lot of people in hopefully will have the opportunity to relive that experience again Before too long but for now were in a holding pattern. We'll find out when the new date for the preakness will be coming up later today. Other things reopening not just racetracks many states starting to open their doors again. Which means that. We are doing things a bit differently. We're doing it. In limited capacities that applies to restaurants here in the bluegrass and as everybody knows who listens to this program. One of my all time. Favorite restaurants is Tony's of Lexington. Tony Ritchie the owner of Tony's is going to be with me coming up at our first commercial break at eight fifteen eastern time. And he's going to talk about opening their doors again on May twenty second. He'll also talk about what these past couple of months have been like and now what they're going to have to do how things are going to change when he does open on the twenty second by no one thing for sure. He's just happy to have those doors open again. And I'm really looking forward to talking with Tony at eight fifteen eastern time question of the day you can go to at H. R. N. on Twitter Horse Racing Radio Network on facebook to weigh in. Do you find yourself on races more now than you normally would. Yes no in about the same. Are Your three choices to answer? Just kind curious. He Oh people are sitting around staying home more often. Racing's men the only show in town. Do you find yourself betting on races more now than you normally would. Yes no about the same. Let me know. Hr In a twitter horse racing radio network on. Facebook aren't going to get to a break again. Very very busy program. Every segment is full. We'll kick it off next with Tony. Ritchie from Tony's of Lexington. This is the forum on H. R. N. presented all month long by FARM PAINT DOT com. When it's time to paint the fences and barns thank farm paint at Farm Bank you get the industry's best coatings and paints factory direct. At Lolo Bryson's barmaid is source for quality paints roof coatings dustless arena footings and more. 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One of my favorite day Rodman calls that was in two thousand eight and as I told you in the first half of program the first segment that was our first ever broadcast the preakness stakes here on the horse racing radio network. We've been doing it every single year since that day in a way and looking forward to doing it later this year whenever that may be again that announcement coming out later this afternoon on NBC. So make sure you're you're locked into that coverage Because that should be that should be big news for our sport hoping to get this triple crown organized in some form or fashion and we'll have to see how it all plays out. I told you that many race tracks are reopening this weekend and we saw this past week. Where many tracks started to kind of open their doors again without fans racing without fans? This is a different world different culture or different time. And nobody knows that better than Tony Ritchie. Who is the owner of Tony's of Lexington Tony's of Indianapolis and Tony's of Cincinnati the most outstanding steak restaurant? You will ever eat at issue that I've had so many people that have sent their. They've told me the same thing and Tony has been going through a very difficult time. No doubt with he and his entire team Over the past couple of months but they will open their doors here in Lexington may twenty second and he is kind enough to spend a little time here this morning with me pies on good morning my friend. How are you Mike? I am doing great as best as we can possibly do. And you know. Times are certainly different and Very challenging but The one thing my family my face and my friends have taught me if you always have a positive outlook on everything. Everything just turns out the way it's supposed to. How are you? We are doing just fine? Keeping things rolling here from My Home Studio and my producer is in our Lexington Lexington Studio. So we've been able to be okay and get the shows out there throughout this entire pandemic. Unfortunately you made the decision. I guess was your decision to close the doors and now offers a curbside service or or some of those other things. We've seen from other restaurants so you've been close the past couple of months. Talk about that decision. Tony and what these couple of months have been like. Obviously when the decision came down. That's a yeah. That's a good question. Thanks Mike obviously when the decision came down to for us to close in Ohio. Kentucky and Indiana You know we've sort of like were scrambling. Okay what do we do? We offer curbside service. We offer you know. Take out meals and so on and Not being able to foresee what was coming We tried it for a few days. And then we'd looked at it and we looked at where we were financially and we were sitting. We were sitting okay for a strong stronger reopening than we had when we first opened a restaurant if you will so we made that decision basically based on that the other factor was is is people. Don't want to spend you know that. Amount of money for takeout. Tony how consistently are they gonNA come in and we basically decided you know what we're going to have to do so much business in order to keep certain people employed and others have to be furloughed that we basically said you know what it's best for us to close our doors they think about reopening reopening strong and coming back with a full menu? And what people are used to Tony's and getting the whole experience rather than just take out if you well well now the the reopening will be this coming. Friday may twenty second If I'm not mistaken and if that's still the case Tony Tummy. What that's GonNa look like. Now how much different will be. It is gonNA be different We are going to try our best to bring our Hospitality to everyone that dined with us and thank goodness that First of all I wanna you know very thankful for the staff that I have how they they're coming back together and They want to reopen a restaurant with with Augusta. But it is going to be different. You know we'RE GOING TO BE AT THIRTY. Three percent capacity we have to have spacing between tables. We have to do our own Due Diligence regarding the Cdc regulations and relations As far as What we do win the restaurant So people are gonNA come in and they're going to see a full menu that's been handed to them in the past but they're gonNA see a paper menu that we can throw away as an example. You know wiping down tables. Just a little bit more there's a lot more of The precautions That we've done in the past Are To are going to be happening now. As far as food is concerned as far as the level of services concerned. That's all going to be the same we've had very good experience with our purveyors and we've been with him for a very long time so they knew that this was coming and they're ready for us there could be some items like or dry h. Products that are not available yet. That me time on the shelves North I H. They'll be back probably sometime in June but we'll be ready to go but it is going to be different but hopefully people want to get out to have fun with their families and friends and just enjoy a good meal. If people have never been to Tony's of Lexington you walk in and there's the dining area and over to the left is the bar area. You mentioned thirty three percent capacity. Will the bar still be open for people to sit at the bar or do you have to kind of alter that portion of the restaurant to you will not do? You're not you're not going to be able to sit at the bar. As a matter of fact John Ohio the the The regulations are a little bit leaner than they are in Kentucky but I made a conscious choice at the bar in Cincinnati as well not to have CD around the bar. But we will have seating tables into bar spaced out two parameters laid out by governor and and the health department and We'll you know we'll be serving you. You'll have a bartender back there. But he won't be serving drinks from the bar he'll be making drinks for services that are waiting on the tables if you will. Yep Yep and. I'm assuming Tony that The servers will be face masks and gloves and like we've seen other restaurants that have reopened other states. How about in terms of the patrons will will they be required when they come in with a be required to have a face mask on? Take it off when they eat. Or how does that work? You know I'M A. I'm assuming patriot. Come in with or without Okay mask I I don't i. I know that there are guidelines for the peach for the Patriots to be cautious But they're going to have to take if they're coming with a you're going to have to take it off in order to eat so it doesn't really make that much sense for them to have that burden up and down with a mask We're going to do our part to try and keep the distance between the guests As best as we can we've Outlined procedures from the ballet the hostesses to the manager to the server As as far as how we're going to relate the menu and and Serve the food So I it's going to be trying and I think and I hope that You know the powers-that-be give restaurants like myself. You know just a little bit a little leeway that if we do something that's not you know kosher if you will or not right for that that that we can correct it right away. They'll give us the opportunity to correct it because this is all new for everybody and I'm hoping that the reopening is going to be strong and That we can continue down the path of just getting this country going again Because I believe that people we as Americans we want to be out there and we want to be having a good time. Yeah Amen Brother Tony Ritchie from Tony's of Lexington with me here on the horse racing radio network again. Tony's will be reopening this coming Friday may twenty second thirty three percent capacity which I guess Tony also means that reservations are going to be a premium. Right yeah I I would we want to make reservations via open table. Or Call US directly Please keep in mind that we are working at a thirty three F- capacity so the amount of guests that we can take our is obviously diminished by by Sixty six percent and so there may not be at the tables to be had so if they if guests can be flexible with days or times we will accommodate every single one. That calls We're just asking I'm asking for a leniency on everybody's part and to be perfectly honest with you. I think everybody understands the situation that we're in and I say that if we just get through this together I think we're going to be just perfect. Yeah I I would agree. Let me ask you this question. Tony at thirty three percent capacity. How long can you know the goal would be at least here in the Commonwealth? To grow this into you know if things continue to improve or at least stay the same grow this into maybe a larger capacities for restaurants but at thirty three percent. How long can you continue to to keep the doors open and provide the service for everybody if you're only operating at thirty three percent? Is THAT ENOUGH. Yes we will be fine. Fortunately for the restaurants my restaurants have a higher CD capacity that most others yellow thirty three percent capacity for us is. We're doing some some decent numbers Um and we will do those numbers consistently then you have to figure out okay. How much do you really need to produce these numbers and then you make decisions on on that you know? Do we bring in a cook for three hours or four hours And so on so behind the scenes you have to look at the numbers but my guess is that I want to reopen. I WANT TO GET BACK TO BUSINESS. And if we have to take a hit for a little bit we'll take a hit for a little bit I I'm okay with that but I think if we see the trends of this virus There's a miserable thing that's going on going down. I think that we're going to open up this baby quicker than most people think for. Yeah it'd be great to see how about the locations in Indianapolis and Cincinnati. What's the status? Their body will open on the twenty first so a day before Lexington Before the restrictions are not as restrictive as they are Kentucky And which which is good because you can take both and you can apply you know. Wow this is a good idea and Kentucky. That's doing society as well. Is that makes sense. So you have that ability. Indianapolis is probably not Restaurants are going to be able to be a fifty percent of acidy Beginning June first. So you and I are a couple of weeks behind you and I have talked so many times over the past few years on this program and of course privately as well and you treat all of your employees and all of your customers like family and this hat so rewarding for you and so exciting to open the doors in Kano welcomed the family back in. Yeah I you know I I think that yeah exactly right. It's like You know going away for a few months and then coming back home so You know we're hoping we're going to be very conscious of the handshakes We're going to be you know I'm a hugger and I go up to people. I'm known forgiving little back rubs on the back and so on so I changed my habits a little bit too until people You know become more comfortable but I'm out there and I'M GONNA be out there and We walk up people just as before knowing that You know it's It's it's it's a stranger time but it's going to be a better time. I think Tony I cannot wait to stop into the restaurant and experience that steak You know for me. It's all about the Sir Barton. I don't deviate. It's the same thing every time I go in greatest steak on the menu. In my opinion. They're all great. But that's my favorite and I can't wait to get in there and in Chow down on a cer- Barton again. Thanks Buddy thank you. I certainly agree. We can't wait to serve it to you. Yeah appreciate it Tony Ritchie here. Tony's of Lexington Tony's of Cincinnati. Tony's of Indianapolis. I've been telling you for the past couple of months that you could be supporting them online. Buying gift certificates that you can now use when they open their doors. Twenty twenty-first in Cincinnati twenty-second here in Lexington. A little bit later in Indianapolis but we'll anxiously await that day to Tony really appreciate it. And by the way. Congratulations to your son. Giovanni who is now going to be in camp with the Carolina Panthers Pretty Cool. That is pretty cool very proud of him. Very thankful very grateful. He's a good man he's a good man. Yeah and so are you Tony Ritchie on. Hr Antoni appreciate the visit. My friend didn't stay safe. Stay healthy and we'll see in the restaurant very very soon. God bless your mic. Thank you all right. Yeah I mean so many so many. That was a great visit because he talked about so many different things. And you know we see it in the news all the time. There are people that are hurting in so many different ways and the restaurant. Business has taken a huge hit. Tony's unique position. He's been very fortunate to be. Oh the weather this storm and we'll see how this plays out now. Thirty three percent capacity again opening up later this week make sure you go support him They have really been supportive to the Lexington community and I know they do the same in Cincinnati and Indianapolis. So make sure you do that by the way. Stop by Woodford feet again yesterday. Here in for sales you talk about a business that is working under adverse circumstances not allowed to have anybody in their store so they are doing. Everything is a drive through setup. Now if you've ever been to Woodford feed you know that that's a challenge. And they are meeting that challenge and Bob Cleveland and his team. What a job. They're doing. This is the time for fertilizer and seeding and mulching and all those types of things that they have at Woodford they also are an official steel dealer car heart. They offer that clothing. You can get it all you can still get it all at Woodford. Even though you can't go in inside the store so make sure you give them a call and tell them that you heard the Barron talking about him and they They really are doing a tremendous job. So hats off to them as well. It's time now for your Alexis legends turf by the way the Lexus door of Lexington. The showroom is Back Open. You can stop out and see all the great folks at the Lexus store. The Service Department continues to remain open. Go see them. It's all part of the reopening here in the state of Kentucky but it's good to see the showroom back open at the lexus door of Lexington and this is your lexus legends of the turf when I come back visit with owner Michael Dub. We'll talk about his champion Montgomerie girl. This man was born not far from Monticello. Virginia on June Twenty. Sixth eighteen seventy five. His father had come from Louisiana to defend the southern flag in stayed on to rebuild from ashes of a totally decimated southern way of life as mother was the daughter of a man of property in slaves and was the arch prototype of southern aristocracy as a young man. He was raised among the horses of outerly. His father's estate or with names like scared. Lock yellow us. Any Oli has respect for the of the equine breed was there informed and was in fact an integral part of his life forever. He went to school for his first twelve years in a one room. Brick schoolhouse under private tutelage. At Ellerslie he began his college matriculation at the tender age of Fifteen Johns Hopkins but finish that portion of his education at the University Chicago Circa Eighteen. Ninety five he went to work on the farm of father and chose farming and the breeding of horses. As a way of life. You became a junior partner or another XLII and stayed at the breeding and selling of yearlings until nineteen seven when he came to Lexington Kentucky to judge a Horse Show met his future wife Nancy and thereby sealed his future. They were married in one. Thousand nine hundred. They had a son in nineteen ten as wives. Both parents died in that year of nineteen ten and she thereby inherited eight hundred forty seven acres of the Family Farm Marchmont which later became clobbered. He settled into raising tobacco. When breeding thoroughbreds Zehr is for stallion was named Celtics. Then rack stallion. He and a friend purchased ending was added later. He purchased a at auction by the name of Mary. Francis from one James Than Ali Hagen. War The one which was to have ended all wars came in the second decade of the century. This man brought several students quite thriftily in England at the time is well-founded thoroughbred empire. Well on its way as years went by Standing Kleber. 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Let's down while CAC payment for a second that midnight diesel and bull prize any attachment was lives under the line. She's back monoploy girl back in action later today. Churchill downs four race on the program Ford of five morning line favorite for trainer. Brad Cox owner Michael Dove Modern Way staples the Elk Stone Group huge partnership involved with Monterrey girl and rightfully. So she has been brilliant. I'm back as well Mike. Penner Baron the backstretch. Happy to have you with me. As we continue to discuss racing returning to many spots across the country that is welcome news to so many of us who have been awaiting that those words since mid-march and joined now by owner. Michael Dub who I know is very thankful to have monoploy girl back at the racetrack later today. Michael First of all good morning. Hope you're safe and healthy. Yes we are thank you. Yeah great to have you on board that little trip down. Memory Lane. They're the Breeders Cup distaff. Larry Cole Mess with the call. That was the last time we saw monoploy girl on the race track it was that Churchill. Downs two thousand eighteen Boy she was brilliant and now she's coming back again looking forward to that. Well you know it's a credit to Our our partnerships Were all good friends. We all get along Flow or in the game to race and It's a credit obviously to to Brad Cox His patience and his tenaciousness And his strong desire and Even to floor on. Who's always guided this source with the utmost confidence so It's good to have the gang all back. Yeah I think I might have left off one of the partners. Bethlehem staples as I was going through the litany of ownership involved with modern way girl Michael Win when you think about these past well eighteen months or so and what this journey has been liked to get her back to the races? Take people through what she has been through. And what you and the other owners have been through with her well You know we. We've gotten literally within a few weeks of racing her two times You know once it was colic and we had a back off just a couple of weeks before you're ready to go and the other time it was a a suspensory poll and we had to just back off and give the time And you know each time. We asked the question Could we should we can. She will she and You know she's given Brad every reason to believe she has the desire through the year Phillies harder to bring back off a long layoff then boys but She's no normal philly and She's full of desire. Was there ever a time Michael? When you sat down and talked to the other partners in in you said well you know what maybe maybe we just need to retire her. And say thank you so much US nothing Was there ever that moment as you were thinking about trying to get her back to the races. Well we always had in the back of our mind that if she didn't come back one hundred percent and she didn't exhibit the desire. We would absolutely pull the plug She's GonNa make a great mommy and You know she'll have time for that but we were always Always saying you know unless it's not ninety nine point nine one hundred percent We're GONNA we would pull the plug. Yes so coming into the race here Saturday afternoon and you see you see her. Go into the starting gate Obviously she's a on her a game one hundred percent Or You wouldn't have her back at the races so As an owner you have to stay on the sidelines watcher. You can't be there. Churchill downs. How difficult is that when you have a horse? This good obviously The partners and myself would travel to all ends of the Earth to see her run. Because it's she'll moment and all around her And it will be surreal Sitting on my couch with nobody else around the perhaps my wife Watching run but I'll take it. I'll take. Yeah there's going to be some anxious moments as she loads into the starting gate when she loads into the starting gate on probably be shaking. Yeah I can imagine so You Know Again. Just hoping and praying that everything goes well and if she if she's a fraction of what she was before She looks like she should be very tough in that spot later today. Well we'll we'll find out I mean. Eighteen months is is a long time for any any horse. There's a couple of horses in that race. That are truly no slouches. Talk the view to me Second to her in the grade one acorn and His FIRST TIME FOR STEVE. Astronauts and So you know we'll let the race on fold and let's see what happens. What has Brad told you about the way that she's coming into this race. He's told me that she is moving better than he's ever seen in. She's training better than he's ever seen well if if that's the case then she could prove to be very very tough and validate that forty five morning line odds. Montemar girl in the fourth race at Churchill. Downs Mike let me ask you as an owner. You mentioned that you're going to have to sit on the couch and watch her run. But you haven't been able to attend the races for your horses in a couple of months now. How how much different has that been for you? And how challenging? Is it You know I'd be honest with you. It's not so much attending the races as going to the barn and seeing the horses in the morning and being around them That's when you really develop the relationship that's when you really have the time to sense. You know the individual of the horse what their quirks are. What their Habits are so I I would say I'm OK. Watching them on TV. I hope not for much longer. But it's really being at the barn Which is what I MISS. The most you know so many times. Michael is were traveling around the country. And we're going to different race tracks. Of course that's not the case at the moment but over the past several years that we've been doing that all run into people and they'll ask me about getting into racehorse ownership What advice do you give to a potential new owner? Who's looking into the game well You know I got into it quite by accident. I'll twenty years ago after I was involved in the Belmont Daycare Center and constructing it And I thought it would just be fun to own a few horses so you know in this day and age. There's too so about it if you're a beginner one is to claim a horse. Maybe find a few partners. Spread the risk around The other is you know one of the syndicates that are out there that You can learn from what I've seen. Owners you know start out in a syndicate and then go out on their own they got a taste of it and they get a little bit of an education The other way is to partner up with a friend. Yeah that makes it a little bit better too if you can have somebody to go down that road with you And obviously you said you fell into it by accident. What's been the most rewarding part of being involved with horse racing as an owner Michael Well this is A question I get asked quite often and I would say it's my involvement And my twenty years with the Belmont Daycare Center Watching the children and become you know come in as infants in graduate in cap and gown rewarding than That gun in racing and I've had great you know great kinds and racing both sat and Nice. There's people and French for life and racing. I'm so glad you brought that up For people that aren't familiar with the Belmont Daycare Center. Tell people exactly what it is Michael and and how it benefits. The children well About twenty years ago I was approached by Jerry Bailey and she was Commenting that the children of the backstretch had no way to go their parents quickly from five. Am to one a And that there was a need for daycare center. I I am a builder and always wanted to do something like that To something for kids so I thought it would be fun Or Nice to donate a daycare center which. I did and Once I built it the operation was a little challenging so I hung around as the first president For three years and have served as chairman for about the last seventeen years And watch the kids come in and six weeks and graduate IN PRE K. And while there we teach them gardening. We teach some chess. We teach computer skills. We teach them to speak English. Art and You know Hundreds and hundreds of kids have passed through there and Watching their growth and and the opportunities they will have based on solid foundation. They've gotten that's probably you know. Ask The question And that's the answer in terms of racing but I love racing owner Michael Dub here on the Horse Racing Radio Network Michael my next segment After this next commercial break. Is Our industry starve? The week which is presented by our friends Stuart Morris. We honor somebody. Who is doing great work even outside of the sport of thoroughbred racing and you certainly qualify for that so. I I think in honor of your contributions to the Belmont Daycare Center. This should be kind of a CO industry star of the week type of thing here this morning. So Michael. Congratulations. Keep up the wonderful work that you're doing there and all the best amount Girl we can't wait to see your structure stuff later today. Thank you very much Michael. W on the horse racing radio network. Yeah fantastic what he has done with that Belmont Daycare Center and being involved with that With that organization just tremendous stuff In our industry star of the week is coming up next after this next commercial break but I do want to remind you that if you are looking for live streaming and replace from nearly any race. Track out there. All you have to do is check out our N. 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Moore's consignment at all of the upcoming major sales later this summer. Will I told you? Muris Shockley was my guest on trainer. Talk this week. She is getting ready to saddle her first career starter but in addition to that she has another skill which is painting and she has a very special tie to a champion that we lost this past week because of colic. That is Lavi Dodd. And she started by talking about her connection to lava dot she kind of came into my life when she broodmare more. Because I started working for Lady Sheila By doing all of her social media and when after that connection that formed probably about a year so after One of the photos that that we had taken the farmer addition Farm Kathy Landman actually took it was just so touching. I decided to paint it with lava dot and her her capit- Philly who went on to sell for eight hundred thousand November Wheeling I decided to paint that and give it to show as a gift so Sheila got that for her birthday That year and now it's probably a little bit more touching we've unfortunately lost her and add to that connection After I did my my I sort of I guess. Official interview on On Sunday I got the call from Sheila that love or Dod had to be had to be euthanized and It was that night that I had to sit down and decide to write something that would be. You know straightforward and announced what had happened but also sort of give credit to the mayor. So I'm not sure if people have seen it or not but There is a post that was sent through facebook. That it's Our Lady Sheila Statement on Dad's passing And that's what she had me write that night. Yeah so difficult and She was certainly a great champion. How are you going to find time to paint when you're running your own business in your own stable though Pretty much the same way I did on as an assistant getting there to It's interesting I just don't sit still too much Any second of my day that I have free I tend to fill with one thing or the other. So you know while you might finish your day up whether it's a long day or a short day and go home and watch TV watching that affects The same setup but I make sure I put Paintbrush and in front of me. While I'm doing that and my this is still worked. I keep going. It's not late enough yet for you to just sit here and watch take me back to the beginning of MIRA. Where did this love of horses? Begin for you Well I don't think I have much choice in the matter I grew up with horses in New Hampshire and probably we had about four five an average when I was younger Not Developed into having close to fifteen But a Lotta that Welsh police because we started a Welsh probably free program. My brother and I both started writing when we were younger. But one bigger horses We had a quarter horse Arab that both of US learned on And my my brush started getting a little bit intimidated horse sort of on interest and backed away and that's when my parents went out and bought a small pony and that that's my that. Oh we should. We should read Welsh because they want people to be interested in horses and some people just can't get brave enough to be around the big one so yeah I mean I. It was always moving. Hey in the summer oh if it was an it. Were a dry sunny day in June. You're you're hiding somewhere because you knew you're going to be like hey we gotta go pick up two hundred thousand the. Hey we're GONNA get that call from you know from one of your parents say. Let's let's go Go pick it up at Harold. He follows the city. Has it ready like none of them? I'm I've had a friend's house thank you But you know it's always always in the field with the horses You know there's there's work time with the bar and that's when you had your son or helmet and all the right equipment but The rest of the day I'd be in the field of them barefoot going up to them barefoot not really caring playing with her main feel that I probably could have been kicked about one hundred times and I never was well thankfully she never was kicked and hasn't been kicked and that's a good thing for a mirror. Shockley our industry star of the Week. You can tell. She's well rounded and has several talents outside of horse racing and that's why she is our industry star of the week. You can hear the full one hour visit on my trainer talk. Show this past week. Head over to horse racing radio DOT net and check it out coming up in our number two Darren Rogers the director communications at Churchill Downs Scott. Wykoff will look back on the preakness with me. He is would be a Alan Baltimore and then Mike Willman the director of publicity at Santa Anita with me as well. That's all coming up right after. I pause ten seconds for station identification. This is H. r from the rail to your radio via says the horse racing radio network preview. Come the Kentucky Big Bob and landed in the big five welcome to the equine forum presented by Foreign Paint Dot Com animal pouncing lights on the job. Alaska's animal kingdom on the outside who goes delays skies. Going CLAM I lines on writings aligns. When American firing live there to the Finnish American fo won tugging now. Here's Mike Peta. Welcome back hour number two of the equine forum presented by FARM PAINT DOT com here in the month of May Mike Pence Berna. The backstretch. Happy to have you along for the ride as we continue a very busy program talking about racing returning in many parts of the country including Churchill downs. I'll join momentarily by Darren. Rogers who is the director of communications at Churchill? He'll talk about opening weekend. He'll look ahead to what is different with this mute now. That racing has resumed beneath the twin. Spires don't forget if you missed. Any portion of the program had back to our website horse racing radio dot net. You can check out the podcast there my visit with Tony reach from Tony's of Lexington which will be reopening. This Friday may twenty second Michael Dob the owner amount of Montemar girl. Who's back in action later today? At Churchill as well and then our industry star of the week segment was all part of a first half of the show. Poll question today with so many of us. Staying home now More and more. Do you find yourself betting on races more than you normally would. Yes no or about the same. Go to our twitter feed at H. R. N. or Horse Racing Radio Network on facebook. To let me know if you find yourself betting on racing more than you normally would now because of the circumstances that everybody seems to be in. Churchill kicking things off later today can't wait to To see those cards because the cards are phenomenal. And that might be an understatement. Both days rock-solid big fields great betting opportunities get ready to bet churchill downs Scott Wykoff can join me from. Wbal in Baltimore this traditionally is preakness stakes day and unfortunately we are not at old hilltop. So Scott Wykoff will share his favourite preakness day memories and give us an update on when we might see the preakness this year. Of course the official announcement coming up on NBC. Later today. Mike woman the director of publicity at Santa Anita going to be with me from the great race place to talk about reopening and restarting their meet again. And what's GONNA be different out there at Santa Anita? Well here's a cool story. If you go wager we keenly select. 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I told you that the program at Churchill is really strong and I told you at the top of the show that we are we are seeing a have seen it throughout the pandemic that numbers wagering numbers have been very very strong in our sport probably because when it comes to the sporting world horse racing has been the game. There hasn't been baseball there hasn't been NBA. There hasn't been golf. This has been this has been it so the numbers on the wagering side have been strong but to me the more well. I won't say more significant because they're equally significant but one of the other significant aspects that I think gets overlooked and it shouldn't is the morale of the people that are involved with our game. The people that work at the race tracks at every level every capacity whether they're on-track outrider whether they are working in the starting gate whether they are working as a mutual clerk in the restaurant ball restaurants. That doesn't really apply right now. I guess a beautiful clerk really doesn't either but it any level at any racetrack. There have been plenty times now. Over the past couple of months where it's been so difficult for so many people in the morale. We saw a Charlestown this week. Eric Zimny Vice President of Racing. Sports operations said there was unquestionably a heightened morale at their property when they opened this past week which is a very welcome sight during such a difficult time. And I told you that. Their wagering numbers were huge. And we're going to see the same thing with Churchill with Santa Anita GonNa be huge awaiting Darren Rogers. He is Trying to get in touch with our studio here lease back in the studio Lee is trying to call back Maybe give them a call again. We'll see if we can get on the line. Darin Rogers here from Churchill downs and talk about their but that to Charlestown for minute. They resume racing this past week. The morale goes up the numbers gigantic. The largest non Charles Town Classic Day handled in track history. Four point three million dollars was wagered over the course of their nine Race Program. The fifth largest handle in the tracks near eighty seven year history just tremendous. It is such a boost for the people that are involved in working with with our horses. All Right Darren. Rogers is with me now. I told you the Churchill Program. Not just today Saturday but certainly Sunday to just rock. Solid big fields. Great betting opportunities and Darren So great to see horses back beneath the twin spires again my friend more good morning Mike and and yes it is Very excited to get things underway today at one o'clock You know if you take a look at the The entries over today and tomorrow The enthusiasm from the horsemen. Is there from from many different locales? So it's been It's been great to see that we reopened the stable area on Monday as you know We've systematically Brought back horses from different locales Every horseman or anybody that sets foot in the stable area Get say one time. Kobe nineteen testing We partnered with wild health Down there and in Lexington and we'd get back the results within twenty four hours And then from that point forward. Everybody's getting a temperature reading and a medical questionnaire on a daily basis when you enter the facility and a colored Wristband lets you know that. You're all clear so we're we're up and running That's the most important thing spectator free Our next step is the focus to to to you. Know continue to work with state and local officials too to get you know spectators Owners media back on site here. Churchill downs yeah. I guess that was going to be mad next question. The the people that are allowed on site now are the people that work with the horses directly so a broom or a trainer or an assistant trainer. And that's it as of now correct. That is correct essential personnel only Yup Yup and more than seven hundred horses on the grounds. I was talking bed. Huffman racing secretary earlier this week and I said Penn tremendous job in putting these programs together and he was very humble and he said well it helps when you're the only show in town in some respects. That's that's true right. That's that's correct but still the horsemen have supported this like like no other they have and it also doesn't hurt to. Have you know a good prize money as you know we we were? You know beneficiaries Within the last year or so of having our our our purses feel by Stoorikhel racy machines opened up Derby city gaming in September. Of what would that be twenty eighteen and so last year our purses were were through the roof and People were supporting the you know the the racing program even with the historical racing machines currently shutdown and being suzy. Azam of our. You know wagering Product. We've got a pretty healthy Per structure an average of five hundred and sixty thousand dollars a day in the first condition but the maiden races are still seventy nine thousand dollars and the allowance races range from eighty one thousand to eighty nine thousand dollars so There's some good opportunities you know. Horse racing is such such an economic driver for thousands of individuals here in the the Commonwealth of Kentucky. So it's it's it's I just. I'm so happy for them. We you know many of these folks They live in Louisville Nine months of the year in the wintertime. When we're closed for our annual annual winter renovations they they see other racing opportunities. Down in Florida Louisiana and Arkansas. And I've just up so happy that we've been able to get them home and to get started later today. I referenced earlier that Charlestown when they returned to racing this past week. They had a record night in terms of their wagering which is wonderful to see but I said the underlying thing here that can't be overlooked when tracks. Reopen is the morale and the boost in morale and Eric Zimny at Charlestown talked about that in the press release. How about for you Darren? You've been on the frontlines dealing with this Having to postpone the Kentucky Derby but now to have horses there and to be watching races again. What does it do for the morale of everybody involved? Oh it's it's it's it's it's tremendous I mean I know I'm fired up over there but let's take it outside the horse racing industry. I think it's important you know. And especially for the People here in Louisville in in the state of Kentucky who truly appreciate the sport of horse racing it's a part of our fabric woven into it From from an early age and people really appreciate it. It's a step in our society that there is a light at the end of the tunnel You know we're getting some traction on some live sporting events back up and running and by the way. I'm thrilled to to let your fans no but and we've got a great partnership with the New York Racing Association as part of the Americas A day at the Races Fox sports broadcast every race every day throughout the spring. Meet will air live on either Fox sports one or Fox sports too and they've done a tremendous job with their program and we're thrilled to be a part of it. So you know I think the morale is very high It's GonNa be awkward though at the same time I could tell you know it it. It's fine for the fans at home looking for content I think you're going to have tremendous contact from Churchill downs with some of the nation's top jockeys today's top Trainers the top horses. But it's GonNa be strange because this has got to mark the first time in our hundred and forty five year history that a race will be run at one. O'clock with zero fans in the stands. Yeah feel awkward at the same time. I don't think the fans at home will will cop comprehend that so much but I think it's GonNa be straight. Yeah the reaction of the common reaction. I've gotten from other trainers at different tracks. I've talked to over the past couple of months like Gulfstream and John and and even fairgrounds that were racing without fans the common reaction. I usually get when I asked him. That question. Is Its surreal it. It's surreal to watch a race and not have anybody cheering on site. I might go down at the eighth pole and you know yell across the track and one of the. He's giving them a bad ride. Somebody has to be there to heckle them. They can't get away. Scot-free right horse player would do that. You've got a REP Prov. The horse players out there. That can't be there to yell at the jockeys when they come back there. Rogers Director of communications here. The horse racing radio network again racing resuming beneath the twin spires later this afternoon. One o'clock eastern I post and and you heard the first half of the program might had my interview with Michael. Talking about the return of two thousand eight Breeders Cup distaff heroin monoploy girl and Darren. That is going to be fun to watch later today as well. It really is You know I think you know. She was such a popular winter in two thousand eighteen winter. The Kentucky Oaks and then won the Breeders Cup distaff over of her home track here at Churchill downs and you know last year didn't go according to plan you know. They brought her back in training Early last year had a couple of hiccups and decided it was best to to you know layer up and she's GonNa make that much anticipated. Return a winner of the only time. You have a racehorse one. Nine of eleven starts That gets you Jesus alone you know. And so. She's a champion coming back in a one mile affair today clearly. This is a stepping stone to feature stakes engagements and I would think that you know are reposition steak schedule. The Stephen Foster Day on Saturday June the twenty seven Not only teaches the fosters breeders. Cup winning you're in a vet for the classic but the floor delete for fillies and Mares Mile Eighth. That's a winning year end so the distaff so I would think that this will be used as a stepping stone To that race. Yeah you lead me right into my next question. Outside of the safety protocols which are obviously a new necessary normal at Churchill downs. What are we going to see different with the state schedule and the racing programs moving forward? Well I'm very excited about the You know before the cove in nineteen pandemic broke out. We kind of changed up our stakes schedule. A little bit to create. We Move Stephen Foster to the end of the meat Because we thought around The you know the middle of a for the end of May we'd be able to stage a Stephen Foster preview dead then. Huffman has moved up a week to May the twenty third so week from today. I'm very excited about The Matt Win being a you know at a mile and a sixteenth or three year olds That when you take a look at the calendar there are no other major. Three year old races right now looming other than the June six Santa Anita Derby Clearly there you would thinks there's going to be some major and important races. That'll be rescheduled. When other tracks get up and running in the end of June and clearly this this Matt Win Next? Saturday will be a very important stepping stone. And so that's going to relaunch our extended road to the Kentucky Derby series offering fifty points to the winner of looking forward to seeing Max Field. Back in action. I think a lot of us Around the country have been waiting to see him he was. We liked his chances going into the Breeders Cup and then they have that little minor injury to to put them on the shelf But other horses like major fed. And then it's GonNa this GonNa be a fun race dhec Saturday and that new schedule by the way includes some notable races liked the Haskell And big named the Pegasus at Monmouth Park for example. Now part of the road to the Kentucky Derby Point schedule there are others involved to which you can go to to the Churchill downs website and see the new road to the Kentucky Derby schedule Daring before I let you go about a minute and a half or so left here before I have to get to the next commercial break but give us an update on what folks might expect. September fifth the first Saturday in September with that Kentucky. Derby are we. Are we anticipated? And I know it's hard to say. Are we anticipating the possibility of having fans on site for that race while our team is aggressively preparing to host a memorable Kentucky Derby with spectators on Saturday September the fifth. You know we're still four months away from that You know a lot can change between now and then and you know we anticipate that it will What whatever direction We're you know. We're going to continue our talks with state and local officials And and rely on their God guidance and full responsibly. You know make a decision for a safe environment but We are planning for a a an event with spectators on Saturday. September the fifth and looking forward to that whole week. I mean just keep in mind the the entire Kentucky Derby Week that we know it from Tuesday through Saturday which includes and includes the oaks on Friday. That's been just up and move to that September one through September five wind up and that's where our plans are today. I can't wait and I know things can change a world long way from that date but I I know the team at Churchill is working tirelessly to try to put all the pieces together and Darren. Listen first and foremost stay safe. Stay healthy and enjoy having racing back beneath the twin spires later today it's going to be a welcome sight tremendous and thanks to all the fans for their support. Hopefully we'll put on a good show for everyone this afternoon. Always do thanks. Darren appreciate it. Daryn. Rogers here on the Horse Racing Radio Network. 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Alex crappy t coming together at the top of the stretch completely unexpected but a fleet alex after really going to his knees at that point recovering such an athlete and drawing off and winning very very impressively under. Jeremy Rose Scott Wycoff is with our affiliate. Wbal in Baltimore Maryland. They would typically be at Pimlico right now as we that is not happening on this sixteen th day of May twenty twenty. We'll have to wait for another day. But Scott seems a little surreal not to be there and to be talking to you in this fashion this morning. Yeah well I you know what just To try to look back at all times I decided to jump in the news car and come over here today and it's not saying it's depressing because there's so many great memories fragrances. But looking over the grand scan over the infield right now but definitely something missing and even the signing share at Pimlico the haven't even put up the preakness one forty five signs yet still a big preakness one forty four sign over the entrance here along avenue when did you start covering the preakness stakes. My first preakness was back in two thousand three. When the huge second togas stables party rolled in the yellow school bus and funny cide won the preakness here. I think that was the first time we've ever had the owners in the infield. The owners of funny cide actually watched the preakness from the big party in the Infield. So yeah going back eighteen years to my first preakness here at old hilltop. Yeah there's been a lot of tweaks and changes and intricacies that have that have kind of a volved over the years and in the preakness no matter what happens is always special. I I loved that race because everything is right there in one location terms of all the horses. All the horsemen. They're very accessible throughout the day. So it makes our job very easy on the media side of things but when you think back on some of your more memorable weaknesses that either you had the chance to be part of on the media side of things or even outside of the business. What are some of those moments? Stand out to you. Scott I've been really fortunate in so if you might being able to cover the previous here for the last two decades there year after year we just mentioned The two thousand five fleet. Alex how Jeremy Rose ever stayed in the saddle in a fleet. Alex went down to his knees at the top of the stretch then as I mentioned my first preakness in two thousand three with funny cide winning. I mean that in two thousand four it was the smarty party is Smarty Jones really captured the imagination of the nation and being here just about two hours from Philadelphia the home of Smarty Jones who it really was electric with all those fans coming. You know those were great highs but then in two thousand six on my birthday a great low the tragic breakdown Barbara. Oh here and it was such a such a Downer but coming back next year in two thousand seven Kirwin with a photo finish win over st since that was the closest preakness ever in Kirtland turned out to be such a great stallion and then just a couple of years later in two thousand nine. It was another memorable year as Rachel. Alexandra beat the boys here and then we thought that couldn't be topped three years later team. O.`Neil Doug O'Neill and his crew came to Baltimore for two weeks they owned the town and I'll have another great stretch run so that was a great memory and also two thousand thirteen at the Alibi breakfast the Thursday before the preakness. It was a big thrill. Seeing Mike Penn APP presented with the old hilltop covering with excellent distinction. You know the year after that. California Chrome Steve Colbert and the whole crew. Come here the Komi scheme that town but of course the triple crown winners and you were here for both of the Mike American. Feral five years ago justify three years later and even last year war of wills redemption after his well documented trouble in the Derby. So Yeah we've been really fortunate in the last two decades to have some very memorable weaknesses here. Yeah there's a saying that you should always know your audience and obviously Scott Wykoff does bringing up the old hilltop very nice working that in there. I appreciate that. Scott by the way Scott Wykoff with wbal in Baltimore are longtime affiliate for the preakness stakes. And he's been covering it as you heard him say since funny cide crossed the finish line that year. Scott how about I one of the things I really admire about you. Fantastic job of putting together different feature pieces which might focus on the starting gate crew at might focus on another aspect. That's somewhat overlooked if you will when it comes to the preakness some of those stories that you've been part of over the years. What are some of those stick out to you when it comes to the preakness well right off the bat and where I am right now at the track I'm right by where the maintenance team is. The folks who have herald attracted prepare the surface that put down the water that make sure. It's safe for the riders in the that was amazing because I literally got on tractors enroll around harrowing tracking instead next to that water truck as it was being filled with thousands of gallons of water and in the sounds and sights of that but one of the is stories. I did that that aired with you guys. When the starting gate and I spent an entire I become friends over the years with a number of the systems starters and of course the starter and to spend a day with them actually in the gate for every race and they gave me total access. It's interesting one of the neat things about covering worse racing is if you so when interest in racing and you want to tell a story of someone in racing they're gonNA give total access and that's what the starting gate crew did here. At PIMLICO. I spent in higher Saturday afternoon with them. And the sounds of the energy. And you know we hear it on the radio and we see it on. Tv when Kate opens and and you hear the clanging of the steel and the and the The bell ringing but to be right there and they would let me get in one of the empty gates while it was happening. You got the sound of the It's amazing the rush. And then you know the horses coming around and and coming right by you again after. You've let them out in the track. That was neat. It was neat a couple years ago. There's a young guy who comes to the track each day A teenager who eventually wants to be the next day. Raton here at Pimlico Laurel part the voice of the preakness and I followed him around and we went up on the roof right by where. The horse racing network is your broadcast from an afternoon with him. And he was calling the races and encouraged Dave Rodman about what it was like when he was young announcer. Another real neat story did also on the roof of old hilltop here. The main grandstand where the the race caller who documented the races who follow each and every race and give us the Great Equa base facts that we use to handicapped these races getting up on the roof with them. And I mean you day Robin Call Racist at least to call the racist. Also we each other and then they document every move on the turnpike. Those are some of the stories but boy you know when you think back on it. There's so many sites and sounds at the track and one of the great things about radio the career that you and I have taken when you focus on horse racing is there's so many stories the track from all walks of life and there's so many different sounds that you can use to help tell those stories so that's really been the thrill for me over the last two decades here in. Baltimore having opportunity on. Wbal radio and also some of them as you say airing on the horse racing radio network is to tell those stories and to give them. Sounds it's It's been fun. It's been and it's a. It's been quite an honor. Yeah we are all anxiously awaiting the announcement for this year's preakness in terms of a date. We haven't seen that officially announce yet Nbc will be airing a show later this afternoon called the middle jewel. American pharaohs run to the triple crown that airs at five. Pm Eastern Mike Tirico is going to visit with. Belinda stronach who is the chairman and President of the group and then also Maryland governor. Larry Hogan they will have the official announcement are you. I won't ask you to give it away if you already know Scott but are you starting to hear some rumblings about that and when we might see number one racing return to Maryland and number two when we might see the preakness well. I'll start with number two in the preakness boy. I mean we can't wait to see the announcement you know Larry Hogan every couple of days is doing press conferences. You'RE THE GOVERNOR OF MARYLAND. Who's been leading the state's fight against the corona virus and oftentimes? You know it's. It's not good news that we hear from him so we're very excited to see him on. Nbc and he drove by my Tariqa Linda to make that announcement you know. In the racy business we handicap everything and then put the odds. The odds on favorite right now would be an off full dates possibly early October. And if it really get inside the numbers and handicapped this thing on October third. There is a Primetime Notre Dame football game on NBC from Lambeau Field. When the fighting Irish will be playing the Wisconsin Badgers and coming about a month after the derby that might be a good date for the preakness because it would come after the Derby in the fall early in October and it would also give a chance for NBC to do a nice lead in typically out of the preakness. They're doing a big lead into Stanley Cup Hockey. So maybe that would lend itself to it and it also would give enough buffer between the preakness and the Breeders Cup a month later so as not to interrupt the super bowl of racing at keeneland. So that's the the early betting maybe something in the fall in October. There was also talk here of possibly trying to do it in the summer. Because though we don't know a lot about the corona virus right now there was a hope that maybe in the warm humid weather of the summer here in Maryland. Maybe July August that the The current a virus might go away so that those have been some dates. That people have been throwing out there. I think you might get a little better money If you go to the window with a July or August eight as a parent compared to a fall date but That's really what folks are looking at now with the Belmont. You know the hasn't even been officially postponed yet from its original date of June sex so We can have a real topsy turvy triple crown season and then you mentioned racing mainly I mean. The biggest day of racing and Maryland is close. The Saturday made which is typically day for the preakness. But you know there is a long racing in the state of Maryland. There are very few weeks that do not see racing being here at Pimlico at Laurel Park or Immonen and right. Now there's a great hope that maybe in the next week with the phase one of governor Hogan's roadmap to recovery from the virus here in Maryland as they move into phase when the crash reopening the opening of the state and the economy. There's hope that maybe Maybe may twenty second that there could possibly be a reopening of racing in the state that would happen at Laurel Park If it happens there would be no fans no owners very limited Footprint of people on the site but of course that decisions open rest with both the state and the local county and a rundle county were Gonna. Park is situated but a plan for this spectator. Let's racing with extensive safety protocols in place I mean. They have pages and pages of protocols all ready to go that they've been years long train here in Maryland coulda calls that had been in place with destroying group trucks at Gulfstream. And now we're seeing that it being reopened. They're very believe that these protocols can really lend itself to safety so yeah. There's a hope that the racing in Maryland went dark with the outbreak of the krona virus. Two months ago. There's hope that maybe be racing can return possibly end up next week now. Let's welcome News Scott Wykoff Wbal in Baltimore with me here on the horse racing radio network. Scott listen stay safe stay healthy and really appreciate you taking a little time on what would be preakness morning here today. appreciate the visit my friend. Thanks so much. No Problem Mike and Being on the air and we can't wait to see the horse racing radio network and all the horse racing fans come here to Baltimore later this year when they reschedule the preakness great stuff. Scott Wykoff here on H. R. R. N. Like all of our guests appear on the program. He's going to receive a gift. Courtesy of embraced the race the apparel for the horse racing lifestyle. 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On the horse racing radio network presented by FARM PAINT DOT COM Winston called on fights back Instagram game-winner roadsters finding has side in the Senate attack putting in a big effort game winner between our says stick around and here's roadster storming home roadster on the outside and day winter go on with it roadster confidently handoff and roadster. Gut Sop to win the center. Nita Darby Ultra impressively. Came winner was second instagram. Third no contest. Oh Fourth Frank Mir Ahmadi with the call of last year's running of the Santa Anita Derby roadster giving Bob Baffert well just adding to his record in that race. He has one more Santa Anita derbys than any trainer in history and thankfully. We'll get a chance to see the Santa Anita Derby run this year. We that was in in question there for a little bit. When racing was halted at the great race place in Arcadia California a couple of months ago but now back in action resumed yesterday and Huge huge weekends. Well looking forward to the visit with Mike Woman. Coming up here in just a moment and Well it looks like Mike might be did it yet. He does have time to join me very very quickly. He is driving. Doesn't have much time to talk out there on the West Coast. But we'll get a hold of him right now Mike are you there how you doing. It's good to be back open. Good good yeah. I'm sure it is In a big weekend coming up over the course of the next two days ten races each day and this has to be a huge boost to everybody out there surely is. Everybody knows field sizes. What drives the wagering. And and we've sure got it through these first three days and You know today field-sized just under ten horses race. Same thing on Saturday. We've got a couple of really good calibrated stakes Saturday interesting in the In the one for you would think Kolzig geldings that would be the echo. Eddie Mark. Last gotTa Philly in there. He actually took a look at the nomination and thought she'd be a better fit with the boys in this particular instance and I happen to agree with them and She's a pretty short price on the morning line. So That's interesting race. And then we've got Bella Phoenix coming back on short notice. She was She broke Sloan was well beaten at odds on at oaklawn I believe on April twenty fifth but She'll go favorite BAFFERT's got a couple of Nice ones in there He's got a mother mother. Who's great? It's multiple grade one stakes placed and he's got another Philly. That's been away quite a while but I I I think she's got a huge chance from the rail that's a great three. Desert Storm or Phillies Mares. Three quarters on Sunday and Mike were looking for a huge Memorial Day. Weekend you know Marquess. He made a lot of News Brittany and I think it was a week ago today on. Tv G saying the war will was It was a couple of weeks ago. I guess wore a will not going to run. It goes stream as planned and they would wait and run In the shoemaker mile turf here at Santa Anita Memorial Day so boy. That's a lot to look forward to. I know Richard Mandela's got united slated for the Charlie Whittingham grey to a mile and a quarter on grass. Memorial Day. Weekend should be really really big for us. And maybe the biggest news with our revised schedule Mike. The GRADE ONE SANTA ANITA. Derby is now going to be run on Saturday June six. So you know with all these three road race. Rather kind of trade just Kind of a jumble now in terms of scheduling. We've got the Derby in this slot. Got a couple of undefeated Well actually we've got BAFFERT's undefeated authentic and then John sheriffs a very promising horse name. Honoree T who was Second to in the gray to San Felipe Bay. He's training well and It's an interesting derby year you know with Being pushed back first Saturday in September Churchill. It's given people more time. They've had to adjust the points thing and I who knows maybe it's GONNA turn out to be a spectacular derby. I sure hope so. But we're excited to be back open MIC and very very excited about next week in Memorial Day weekend at Santa Anita Mike Woman Director of publicity at Santa Anita. I know you've got a busy day. I know you have to get going but I really appreciate you filling us in on what's happening there at the great race place and stay safe. Stay healthy and Let's let's keep this thing rolling now. Thanks Mike that's the whole thing. We're going to be safe and look forward to having you out here again. Real can't wait Mike woman here on H. R. N. and Again busy morning for him but we really do appreciate them spending a few minutes. Like all of our guests who appear The program he is going to receive a gift. Courtesy of embraced the race the apparel for the horse racing lifestyle. Where would you love and embrace your passion at embraced the Race Dot Com? Yeah looking forward to that. racing at Santa Anita racing. Churchill maybe racing at Belmont before too long will be great to see racing in New York But it it's going to be really cool to say Let's do this. We have a few minutes here Because Mike had to get going we do have a few minutes free and because this is traditionally preakness stakes day. I got thinking about some of the things that I've enjoyed about our coverage over the years. Certainly one of those. When I got to sit down with Wayne Lukas Bob Baffert together at the preakness a couple of years ago. That was a fantastic opportunity for me to do an interview with them. The other thing I liked is former jockey. Christina McMahon Gal who took time to walk around the race with me at PIMLICO and put us in the saddle with a jockey who is actually writing a race the preakness it was one of my favorite features. We've ever produced and since we have a little time on this preakness morning what would be preakness morning. Thought it'd be fun and here it is. Let's listen in the gave the door shut behind me. Crew all in position beside the horseheads head straight feet squared up and look ahead. I see quarter mile run before the first turn have my plan a plan B and my plan C. And try and keep my horse relaxed trying to stay as still as possible feels every movement the jockey makes and so in order to keep the horse calm. I have to be calm and I'm focused. I'm only thinking about the race in front of me. Kraus's are loud but I don't think about that the night. Two handfuls of Maine my right hand is higher. The my left sticks in my right hand and I wait and I hear I hear the click and doors. Open asked my horse to go. I want a good break. I don't WanNA get shuffled back. I need to have rooms my inside shut off. I need to be in perfect position for one. My horse switches leads tend to drop in just a little bit. I need to get go position in order not to get too crowded going into that. I turn going into the first turn. Horse's head is cocked to the right and switches. That left we. We're in good position. We're not losing. Ground pulled out a pair of goggles to make sure I can see those around me clearly and the Jock is around. You're talking amongst themselves sometimes. Saudi the Horse in front of me switches to his left lead as well and to drop down just a little and I scream in order to let that Horse No. I'm right inside of him not to drop down. We exit the first turn horse. Straighten up kickback. Is Flying back in our face and I pulled out another pair of goggles. In order to see what's going on around me and the noise from the infielder that goes back but I don't hear it. I'm so focused on so in the zone I'm connected with my horse trying to relax. He is and I keep still. I don't move I am by myself. I'm I'm going to be heading head with another horse down the backside. I want to be relaxed and save as much force as possible. We reached the half-mile Pole. There's a half mile. Keep more interested. I asked him for a little bit. Make sure have horse underneath me. We have to go into the second turn soon and I. I need some worse to get me home. I make contact with embiid. I tap on the shoulder and they have a lot of horse underneath me and we go into the second turn and I have two choices I can go outside and get clear running room or I can stay inside and risk risk getting stopped risk opening for the for the stretch wrong but I would save a lot more ground. And that's what I decided to do. I stay in the noise of the horses and the job around against the rhythm of the hoof beats on dirt up. The horses are accelerating the beginning. They're beginning to ask their horses for run to begin to gather up some rain. I'm picking up some rain on getting down low on my horse. I'm tapping having that horse on the folder with my stick. Your asked him for all of his run. I'm waiting for room. I'm reading for a hold open up on the inside. Come to the top of the strategy quarter-mile ago. It's go time. This is this the end this is almost home in the preakness stakes on the line and the noise from the crowd picks up. I mean it's deafening. I don't hear anything. I here is the worst around me and I am asking my horse for running slowly creep. My way up the reigns where I have four hold. I'm pushing as hard as I can and I pulled down my last goggle. I have one goggle. After that quarter of a mile to go I raised my stick and I urge him for more as a hole opens up and we have room to run around the noise. The noise of the crowd. I don't hear but the noise of other horses. I hear that noise and I asked my horse. I screamed my Chirp. I switched to my left hand pushing as hard as I can. My horses giving everything he can. I hear some horses behind me. Tiring and others others are gaining. I'm only focused on my voice. I don't hear the crowd I don't hear anything about my voice and those around me and I get my closest competition. I want that worse. Look the other worsen his I in in his game. He's competitive and with a sixteenth ago. Where in front I gather at my reins I throw cross. I'm stretching horse's neck inches count. Now we're both giving it all. We have pushing as hard as I can. I'm riding as hard as I can. And wearing rhythm won. The competition is gaining. I hear the hoof beats behind me so close. I can see the wire in front of me. Were almost there. I asked my stretch his neck out one more time as we passed the wire and then I realize we've just won the preakness stakes. Yeah one of my favorite pieces that we are producing conjunction with our preakness broadcast over the years. Matt thanks to Christina I still remember that day. We walked the entire race. 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"Ms. Sadie Cohen" (w/ Tami Sagher)

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1:38:26 hr | 2 years ago

"Ms. Sadie Cohen" (w/ Tami Sagher)

"Hi, guys. I just wanted to jump on here with little bow say, hey, Bo. I okay. And we just wanted to let everyone of upcoming live shows. Ooh. You have several coming up at the first one is queers live Bala Talamo, babe. It's inspired from the very inspired by should say. A divas live starring all your favorite divas. But we're just putting a little queer spin on it. We're going to have so many great people every Owens. Call Scola Josh sharp Aaron Jackson s Peter Smith. Here's Smith and more to be announced. More queer renounced musical directed by the one and only Hendrika Persky us on Monday, November twenty six at Joe's pub, the one and only it's our very first ever last countries to show at Joe's pub, we love the folks over there. We're going to be recording a little video promo for it in the coming weeks. You might see it, and you can get tickets at Joe's pub website, so please head over and do that. And then we have the gag, of course, I don't think so Honey live at the bell house on November thirtieth. Yes, this is going to be a pretty new batch of folks, we are really going to show you some new faces darling. Our last one was like legends ball type gig. But this is going to be such a fun fresh experience. It's gonna be so good. I can't wait for it. Yeah. You gotta get your tickets to our Honey live at the bell house on November thirtieth end. If you're on the west co-. Honey, I'm coming to you. And I'm gonna be doing. I don't think so Honey live at the region in downtown LA on December fifth. The lineup will be announced shortly as will the bell house lineup. But this is going to be so much fun. I loved our show that we did. I always when I can't believe I'm missing this one. But you know, what for good reason? Okay. Which is your wedding yourself. Yes. Just getting his work. So listen, I cannot wait. And then selfishly I to just plug a little show that I do here in New York City at the duplex. It's called have you heard of Christmas. Oh, I love this show you baby. I'm really excited. It's going to be on December eleventh, December eighteenth and December twenty seconds. I'm going to do that show three times. And I really want you guys to come. You can get tickets which are on sale right now. Do those are the shows, and that's the goal special guests, and that's musical directed by Henry Kaprisky as well. Yes. Oh, I can't wait for all of these shows. I will be at three out of four of them for money. So please get those tickets and check them out. Yes. Look there. Oh, I see. Well, look over their culture. Let's Chinese ding, ding-dong, less culture. Res just calling. Well, there's a nor'easter out there. It's a is it okay to find it defined what a nor'easter is for all the kids that don't know because I didn't know until two years ago. Now, I I I never cared for meteorology. I'll. My bad. Of all our Roker of all this thing this week. No bitch of all the sciences. It's although which is inter I mean of all the scientists. It's the most performance of one right? Okay. So you're saying they need to be talented. Nope. I'm saying like, it's it takes a meteorologists have to have star power and have a science knowledge, right? Which is so interest. Oh, wait. I should like write a whole fucking. You should write a piece on some it should be a piece, and can I say something? Meteorologists often wrong. I mean, it's just that their job is to predict until like sort of they have they have a margin of error inherent in the job. I would say it's the biggest margin of error amongst the science. They're able to be wrong. And everyone's like, yeah. But that's that's whether that's par for the court. I don't like that very much. I think it's lovely. I think it's a beautiful like ease of pressure. Like, you know, you don't have to be exact or impure. Right, right. Us loose about it. Can I say something? Yeah. L Roker fine wine love, and he said it with age with age, and I love that. He he was on who really spoke out against Meghan Kelly. He was the one who I guess. Well, you know, they said something on the seven AM our, right? And then that carried over because later on the president of NBC news Andy lacks, he was like, you're right. It's unacceptable, and I am thrilled. Yes. Then Megan Kelly is I can't put of all of this. I can't believe the drop. That's that's. It's crazy, and what's even more of the gag in talked with UTA. And then they said sorry. We can't take you now. Oh, my God Halley is without Honey, a talent agent, and it's actually rule of culture number four. You gotta have a talent agent. You no matter that this industry. It's all about that. See this is the thing. Like, I would assume that meteorologists have some sort of talent, you know, our Roker is w w I would I would assume we can look it up. We can look it up. I always done some credits in films, and you know, we have TB pro accounts. I have I envy pro account. I pay an exorbitant amount of money for it yet. Stupid to check my star meter ranking which is like in the fifty thousands all-conz. Yeah. But that's actually very privileged thing to save eighty thousands at all I'm I'm always lagging behind you not that. I keep score. Oh my goodness. We can't do this here. This here in front of our guests. Do we'll do couples therapy. We'll go into Andy's podcast. I feel I still am considering the couple's therapy situation thrust. Well, I shouldn't say that. I don't think we need. No, we we don't eat yet. But you should go into raghpai regular therapy. And it's the sicko thing that I haven't gotten yet. And I was thinking on the train today because I was a little sad today to be honest. Yeah. Maybe it was the weather. Maybe just. Stand. The Ray maybe, but I was thinking a little sad today. And I was like, yeah. The therapy thing needs to happen. It does for everybody. I mean, that's not specific to you. It just everyone could benefit from it. And I'm entering an exciting new chapter in my therapy journey and that means that what is it can you share? Oh, yes. Sure. It's I I was like talking to my therapist about dislike just like a hookup. I had recently hot. And it was like happening felt some sort of shame about it afterwards. And she was like, okay. Like, she was like, do you feel comfortable talking about this here? And I was like, absolutely. And then we're like two minutes later, I bring up the and this is this is super morbid and sad. But I don't mean for it to be. But then, but then we bring up the conversion therapy thing. And I was like, oh, yeah. Like, I'd have very young h had an adult Schlink shame to sexuality actuality, and like or just sex in general like the exercise was like he this this conversion therapist who was like when I was seventeen was like, okay. Let's walk through. Every instance, you've had a male traction in the last, you know, this is oh and me, and then like his whole the the thing that he projected onto everything was there is shame associated to each and every one of these things. So he literally. Yeah. Imprinted that onto me as I was like developing sexually. And I was like that's and then and then I didn't realize that until I didn't realize that Lincoln till they're until current therapists was like wait like this is this is something that we have to work through hundreds like, absolutely let's do an him so excited. So it's gonna be great. I need to have things. Like that issue. It's perfect. You everyone must though I don't think we should have the same therapist. We know. Absolutely now, it'd be a real she knows a lot about you. She I'm sure. Yeah. And now talk about that in my therapy. Wow. Okay. Oh my gosh. We can therapists speaking of therapist. I think we have like a true comedy therapy. Comedy therapy. She is I mean, she's a true preeminent mind in the world. To say, something, please. I've actually been a fan of this person. I've realized for eleven years here's what here's why. Because knocked up knocked up you had a scene with Katherine Heigl where you played like her wardrobe girl, and she's like, I forget what it was either. She's not fitting into the outfit like she used to or she's hungry or something or both. She's frustrated and like this man that was like trying to like talk to where it was like away. And it's just you just Tammy and Catherine and TIMMY goes your baby they want you to gain a home mess of way, and Katherine Heigl just goes, are you fucking kidding me fashion ever like that exchange like I was like laughing so hard me and all my high school friends will laughing so hard and then like literally the CNN's with like it'd be like I'm sorry. That was really inappropriate. And we like, it's okay. It's okay. It was just so good. It's one of those. That's when I realized I I saw you. It's one of those seen Steelers that you're like who is that. And since then you've literally written for all of our favorite shows that I would imagine like. Our our listeners favorite show. Oh, yeah. Thirty rock. How am I mother mad TV horns inside Amy Schumer and featured on inside Amy Schumer girls? I mean, like truly like this. It's gonna feel good to have touched. So many of these formative television. We're going to get into their get into it on. We're so excited to have her. Oh, and don't think twice. She was. She was a Hello. Yes. I don't think told him. I got I don't think twice in this gorgeous theater downtown in Denver with a bunch of beautiful NPR love and motherfuckers, and they ate it up and the eighth Tammy up. And so please give a warm. You're welcome to argue asked to say. Such a fan. Because my I'll smile too busy. You guys. Like, I was telling you I am horrified at how long it took me to find last countries. Does what? A few months ago. And then I full I think I listened to every episode which is hundreds of hours spent in my brain of our explain because you because Tammy just recorded an episode of seek treatment very excited to he's outside. But now the competition. That clear out ahead of the Instagram story about it. That's obsessed with you guys AM there's people out there who want to watch the world burn. Booster? He came on here. And you'll hear his episode of Lasco Theresa's coming out. It must have already come out come out by now. And he set the record straight about the last coach racial diversity treatment situation. I don't know that less countries. Just went is come out yet. It hasn't. How it before this episode will? Okay. Okay. I think we'll be okay. But I have to say even seek treatment. He made it clear. No, no. This is not a competition. Yeah. Yeah. You guys have had my friends. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Timmy knows. Her will literally have been plunged in the depths of your pool. Oh my God. Yes. You love Pat Regan. Okay. So I. Okay. So Pat Regan did the show called. We will turn you gay. Right. Doesn't even at Douglas marathon. I just stay to watch it because I love Brandon Scott Jones, one of the band is a light alike. Absolutely. Yeah. And so I just was like, I don't see much it change my late. Yeah. Just reminded me of the joy of improv and the joy of friendship and also like Brian FOSS who has horned with for years. I have never seen him improvise like that Lali physically and emotionally. I was just like, okay. Fuck straight. People gotta go gotta go seriously. Like, whatever whatever we're Josh. And Aaron and that show was not Erin not. Josh Neer earn was so it was Aaron Brian Pat and Bs j I saw the Instagram stories and the Instagram's of you guys just all going out afterwards getting up grabbing a bye week grab tonight at bear burger horticulture, and it was just like who's this delightful? Young. Man named Pat Regan and everybody was like whoever was at the show. I can't on now. I feel bad because they can't remember. And it was like oh Morgan Morgan auto young grace Jared. Oh, yeah. Everyone was at three names issues. Like, Pat was my favorite impressive student, and like the issue of courses like pets the best. And I was like, okay. I yeah. Agent know who this part was left improv and all this stand up. This is only and I was like, okay S started following him. And then he announced I'm gonna do the show called seek treatment. I was like, that's brilliant, title idea who this cat Cohen character is whatever. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I love a podcast. And so then I was like googling it. Of course, it's not going to be on for week right by weight, then other items if you will Pat Regan as last culture Easter famously, oh my God. And then just years. Oh, man, just years, and it just you guys became my nearest deers. And then my heart jumped five million like. You've mentioned like there's a Jeff Hiller episode. Oh. Grabbed water that I was in a see both him. And I was like, oh, and it just like I can't even and I've been talking that you guys other people I was just telling Jason Kidd. Oh, yeah. And you guys are Jeremy Bieler on. I. Feiler Bieler, but it's Beyeler could be either really on paper. But it's Beyeler is fully all my friend. Let me know rule of coaching radiate. It's beyeler. Actually, true and three friend. Joe mispronouncing. We've gotta have Jeremy on half to he's only. Yes. Yes. China fucking hard because I'm seriously have heard hundreds of hours of you. Introduced me to so many amazing comedic voices, including your own. But also like I just like I've been telling people as like you are the future of comedy. And then I was like, no, you're not you're fucking comedy. Like, not even the future of comedy. You're just straight up. No, it's true. And it's also like then I was like, okay. I need to be more on top of things as I need to know who the future of comedy is. But like, I went and saw Leary Owens. Is going to his Carolina. Yes. Oh my God. I heard it was phenomenal. Phenomenal cat was phenomenal. Like in the other, two comics on it. We're great. It's up there stand ups, and like they were excellent stand up stand up. Yeah. Like other people. God bless it's just it's also like whenever anybody's like a hate and prevalent. Like, I totally got totally got it. But cat and leery are just it's a progression there. It's it feels like that. Right. It feels like an evolution always say. Like, I mean, it's it's so interesting that, but it feels like this something happened in New York, and we'll talk about this often. But because I also came up through UCSB. And so I was on mod for about a year and a half and Catherine was on at the same time. And she was we were we were on mobile on the same night, we're onto frontiers. But and I knew her just from seeing her to a character round. She'd see me do my characters around. We kind of like, you know, we're just knew each other like that. And I got the sense watching her onstage. I was like she can do so much more than what she's allowed to do right now in this moment. And I felt the same way. I felt like you know, my like I haven't figured it out yet. And then, you know, there was some musicians that also crossed over with comedy. And then it kind of became a thing of like, let's sing let's kind of like embrace different kind of mediums and just was weird. Because it also kind of felt like it really was the queer comedy community, and like the Brooklyn community coming together. And then you see people who knew form really well all combining together and just kind of mishmashing to create guys created with with pop Pap Rula, which I never free. I'm telling you. I'm feel like so many years behind the thing. But then you have created late properly was fun. And you know, you know, I always felt like popular it might have been. I said if that was happening right now, I think you'll be huge. But because it was happening then and we really were at the pit a lot like in the love the pit. But it's very it's. Community driven like it kind of stayed within its bubble. We did do a show at UC be for a year. But like towards that point. We were kind of like the group was kind of like, you know, phasing out, but they also have to say like there's a thing of like musical theater that is very on the margins. It's less on the margins now, but as somebody who cannot sing. Does not enjoy musical theater. I was very much like, yeah. It's fine. That it's on the margins. Marginalization problem, but by but then there's like crazy grow friend now. And then there's like, Larry and cat. And like what you guys didn't like that episode that Larry was on with you guys. So I I don't think so Han is I don't think so. Blue my mind it like literally gave me chills. Don't think about. See him. Being covered from it. What's that? I know your friendship are for. Oh, absolutely. Larry are then Larry the other day. Larry keeps apologizing to me not for that for some something else that it should be. It'd be getting he was amazing. Larry Larry will say things to me all the time. And I just have an I dislike accept it for what it is. Which is just him. Like he was like the the other day. He was like, oh, no like people. He was like people as this is the nicest thing that was also veiled in like an insult. He was like people people like you people as smart as you were always evil are always are always inherently chaotic and evil, and it was like, 'i limits. Fully mean, I was. There's a tiny tinge of like mean to. He was hold you back. Hottick evil. Oh. Maybe I don't think I am. And then and then like twenty minutes later, he was like, I don't know why I said that I'm so. Sorry, don't worry because it's hilarious. Very funny. What a funny notion. It gave me a backhand comment as well. He was like, I never worry about USA. And I know you're always going to kill and like, there's not always jokes. But like you always kill, and I'm like Larry that was like I was before you. It's so funny because so seeing him at Caroline's like he fully he's. It's insane. It's insane. But it was also I went with Jason Kim Jason and. Sorry. Jason Kam, I'll be like, but it's also like you just use like a soundboard on your phone Jason. But it was we were sitting at a table with this girl who brought her parents, which was fine. We love them until they did not shut the fuck up all the way show and also like the chew drink minimum just meant that they were talking more and more and more. But she just kept being like, he's so nice, really Z. Also, like, his stage persona is like fuck you just not safe pleaser. Thank you on stage. So I think that's also it was like comedic persona. But I also think like, I don't know like it's, you know, it's. It's hard when you're a people pleaser totally. And you end up like like me personally, I'm not going to. I don't know. Larry it hurt him on several podcasts. But I I have to admit that does not mean that. I know you're not yet close. No. But I'm a people pleaser, and I ended up being my meanest when I am people pleasing too much because you just feel like stepped on even though I'm the one doing the stepping. Oh, wow. And I do feel like I mean, he always talks about like code switching, I think like code switching is automatic people pleasing. Well, it's and it's exhausting and it McLean. Yeah. I mean does that ever come through in your work? You would say because I if you like you're seeing that in Larry's sort of performance persona, and like that is like the his comedy is sort of like, I mean, it's like sort of the vessel for that thing. Like when you right. Is that is that a weird question? No, not at all like our yield inter in a room. Like, are you? I don't know what what are the politics of that when you're interrupters room where you're like, am I try not? It's really interesting because so much of a writer's room is in it's different on different shows writers rooms are different Unterberg shows. But right now, I'm at orange is the new black, and it is the most argumentative room that I've ever been and it's wild like I'm not used to that at all. And it's actually been really exciting and really cool, and we really get into it about stories. And it's as someone who's like as conflict phobic as I am. It's been really education already think. That's because like people that watch are under the new black like they're not just watching it as a pure comedy. They're watching it because there are so many social issues commented on. Alien worth fighting million percents that no it is. And I would take the quote unquote off of it. Yeah. I really would like, and I also think like, you know, all of us who are writers there now were all there. Most of us are there from season six and seven there's a couple of been there from season five, and that's it. But the stories from the beginning are like this is a room that argues, and cares and people care passionately gingy. And Tara like that's what they promote. But one hundred percent is because of the issues, I guess that would have to be. I mean, it's not something like, I would imagine like Amy Schumer like her room is probably more isn't more fun. Like, if it's a sketch show or kind of you know, I don't even know that it's much about that. I think it's also just like people not being afraid. I see. And you know, what I mean like, I don't even 'cause I've definitely heard about comedy rooms that are really argumented. So I don't even like the chemistry of the room. Yeah. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I do think that this show like we definitely get into. Although like, the ugliest fights have been about comedy. Like, that's when I was like, I don't like this. This isn't feel good anymore. Arguing about. Oh, you're not. That even like general is literally like no that joke needs to go in the next week. No, it's not. And it's just like. Oh, yeah. Taste hearing it differently. We use sometimes like whenever we have to sit down and like right shift together. I'm always it's these little moments where it's like, no. I think it's a a beat and then this line or like this. And it's like this moment of like, I don't think will agree. Okay. No. And you always the ugliest. It is the ugliest. Okay. So two things to thoughts. I had one is. Okay. So Jewish holidays listened to my guess, it don't have friends, but my favorite murder. Oh, yeah. We listen to it. Okay. They've famously gone to therapy together. This. They are astronomically successful. Right. Right. Right. And so it's like, I don't think that's a bad idea for you guys know at all right because you are in a business together. Hopefully, this is a partnership, and the other thing I was gonna say about writing with somebody is I really do feel like finding somebody that you right? Well, with is like one on one that's like falling in love like it's very special and very rare like you can write with a lot of different people. But finding somebody were doesn't feel like you wanna fly can kill them and yourself. Yeah. I feel like that all the time most people, especially when you get put in a room that you didn't necessarily you're happy to be in. But you didn't necessarily choose the people in it in by didn't necessarily mean you did not at all like, so it's like, and then nice thing is like your your SNL now. And so now, it's just kind of like because you have a lot of friends there almost feels like well, I had the option to write with someone I know historically before this. But that's not always the case. I mean, they can put you on different things. And then you have to navigate your own response to their creative process. So even somebody that you let there have been so many people that I love, and I don't necessarily live writing with which sit different. It's a different piece. I totally agree. I've fact like we we now I try to whenever we're like not agreeing on something what I always like to say in this is the same with Sudi who's my other writing partner, and like, you know, when I've written troves with other people. So as Dave I work with it's so was kind of like, let's vocalise the fact that this is the thing. Let's talk about like what it is. I agreeing on and potentially why? Because I think that will like that will get it out in the open, and then we can really actually get down to justify why we both think this thing, and then we can move on effective. I think I I'm just I'm generally. Well, I think that when you're really honest, at least you can understand why the other person is coming from. We had a breakthrough last weekend. We had an emotional breakdown. Best kind of breakthrough. Well, okay. So here's the two. So we went up to upstate New York. Yep. Me saw the pictures on the ground. I actually was actively trying not to because I was trying to enjoy my experience. Good for the very first time. I never done this. But we dropped asset. Okay. And so now, I have never done acid or mushrooms. But I've heard mushrooms or the thing to do if you're in nature, my friend, my weather friend, who I won't say they said, I three called herself some mushrooms girl. And I was like, okay. While you were like, let's do acid. My I don't think he'd mind me saying this. My ex Henry like he was a big proponent of, you know, ask going out and doing asset, and we'll go out in the woods, and like in like some sort of park or something to be with nature at all. I could Alex. Yeah. So we did that. And that was amazing just like literally sitting next to a tree and being like this tree is alive. Like, and then later on we did have a moment where I realized that I hadn't said something to you that I think I need to say you needed to hear can you share? We'll share some I share it. So when the S and L thing came about I feel like I'm gonna cry right now. My God like then they say, well, we're offering you're running position. And then there's that moment where it's like why take the writing position. And so it's that moment of like, we're honest with each other. We're best friends. We talked about it. And this thing of like, I have to decide whether or not possess happening, and he did decide to and that he had called me and tell me that that was happening because they were plans for this podcast to move on. And. Do other things. And then I think this weekend was the first time I ever told you that had you not taken that job that would have broken my heart like that. That would have like. And then I just like that was when I said that to you. I realized that that was so important for me to say and for I think for you to here. Yeah. How did it feel hearing? It was it was it was really it was like overwhelmingly emotional where we're just like brakes critical mass. I had I had to sit with it. And like normally I'm pretty immediate Meyer emotional responses to things, but it took me a long time. I mean relatively long time like, and then then when I started talking that's when I started to tear up in cry. It was it was it was it was a big moment. But it was you know, the thing is to like it's weird. I I actually think if I have to say what it is that kept me from saying and vocalizing that because we are very emotional people. And we share a lot. I do have to say, I think it goes back to this thing of like don't be too emotional or forthcoming or like, whatever it is. I do think it's like what you were talking about before the kind of repression that exists inside. But it's also like him. So because. Whatever. It's okay it. But like that was beautiful. But also like you just as easily could have said like it broke, my heart that you took it. And I would have totally understood what you're coming from. And so like, I'm so glad that you are at the place of it would have broken my heart if you hadn't taken it. And I think I always knew that. I really like I'm Boeing like I mean, wasn't there that like I could totally understand it if you would say like broke, my heart that you chose it. I get it. I totally get it. But I also like, you know, what I mean? Holy I mean, I spent the day sort of deciding I've just had like. Give or take like twenty four hours give or take a few to decide in Matt new like now is was there every step of the way like that whole day? I was it was just it wasn't an looking open and shut thing. It was like a really hard to ruminate on it for a limited amount of time because it's a life change. Yeah. And and so. 'cause it's interesting that yeses is also knows. Yeah. It was not a lot of other stuff. Like it meant turning down. Other like opportunities that were happening like concurrently that we're like already in motion. And it was it had to sort of put the KYW Bosch on that on on those things. And so yeah, it was it was a lot. It was a very it was a very fraught day. And then I called Matt and sort of like that I knew that that was like dislike sort of locus of the friendship that like we would prefer back to for a long time. Wasn't that exactly the time that you guys went to the view the same? Okay. Same time. Like so that like the fact that that happened the same fucking day. Just like you getting your heart stepped on in such a hole Larrea way up following like fully lake managing your feelings of like that was like, you did a hilarious. I don't think. So honey. But like watching it like Bowen is fully like trying to be there for this kid who lost one hundred pounds. But also, then like looking at you that the video of it got both too much attention. But you know, I was thinking about it lorries. But it's also I will say this as a third person it would not it only existed in relationship. So of course, it can feel like omega Bowen, the slow clap. But like the thing that was so amazing to me about it was the friendship, and the thing that I love about your guys and your podcast is the empathy in the love. And that's what all of that was. So is also just like your, and it is like it is funny because I know she means everything to you. And I need that you need to tell you that might time mad TV I met her the day after she was shot. American idol sketch with both in his Whitney. It was it was it was Whitney. It was like I it was it was it was like all these has been 's who like reclaiming the fact that you're a member, I fully do know. It was that you know, what that was who gave birth to grew. I'm telling you, Debra. Arrive from that. I listen to you know, how amazing Debra Wilson is oh. By is amazing amazing Simpson. Had the best Whitney his without question. Fucking dot cast. I will say, okay. This is where. All the time. Even just Michael McDonald as like a queer like people that know it at the time, but you look back, and you're like yes that was only allowed to be on the show. Totally. I'm like, he's a he's, you know, doing gangbusters and like directs a million TV shows all the time. But he also has kind of your story. Well, but it took him even longer to come out because he was Orange County grew up, and like, you know, in this like Orange County is the Long Island. Yeah. I believe that. Yeah. Yeah. That cast was absolutely stack as you met Kelly the day after she wanted a shot that the day after the same. Streaky highlights got number. You can never forget those iconic blonde streaks. Yes. Yes. Your mom famously said famously said, you know, that that's the only person who can pull it off which is so questionable. As like, you're not done meeting. Her like that was. I will say I'm happy that it did not happen on live television. Yes. Because I've also talked about how I did the stern after show the day. She was on. Yes. And. I she was coming out. And I literally went and go went and hid because I was like I just can't not this not the time not strong enough to meet her right now I had thought about meeting her the night before because it was happening. And I was excited to be on Howard. I love Howard. And I was going to do the after show, and I was thinking about the fact that I could meet her, and I started to cry. What would? On television. I get it. Totally get it. And you can't meet her in the audience and like thankfully getting it has to be for me. Yeah. So what would be like the perfect controlled environment for you to meet Kelly. I think that like maybe if she was like like backstage at some event or something I think that I would have to like maybe like approach her and be like, and maybe if I'm like somebody that she might know like I don't have to be on her love. Ideally, like, we're talking ideal ideal. She's coming to see you guys perform. So it's not like you have to tell your whole story from the beginning. Like, she knows your shore. Does come. Yeah. Do you want to know something fucked? What you have. What you have are reached out to her people, and they respond. Yeah, they punted. So it is like not outside the realm know that I meet her, of course, not. But I will say this Bill. I will I will. But that she comes on my God. Well who knows anyway? I mean, honestly, I'm like she's in the audience. He's like Mattie like she's like fully on the audio. Kenny wants to flip this. Oh, yeah. No, I'm flipping. But I would never allow it. Okay. So I okay. So the other thing is is like being a second city for years, and like famously being around people who become famous, you're pure, Chicago to be the best and all the Chicago just grew up there too. Yeah. I feel like you were like the fact that you knew Chicago just like makes my head explode. Anyone anyone when you hear that anyone go look went to university of Chicago. I'm like like, you went through that process and all that. Okay. But also it was non. Back on. Yeah. I mean, I did did did an essay, right? You didn't ask? But like now like crazy now. This real academic thing. Yeah. You give so gotten off on like how the percentages of people of to MRs the comedy major at university. It did not exist. When is there kind? I'm not I'm not knowing what you guys talking. It says university of Chicago just like one of its like it might as well be an Ivy league. And and like, and like they're like now like the personal statements that you write for the school. Specifically are like they're not just like talk about a personal experience. They're like okay now for this this section of the essay, right? A five hundred word dialogue with the following words in it seagull like spoon. Spatula lake. Sounds just like impact. It's just like a fun. They're pushing you to do stuff that you would never do that. 'cause I was my dream school university of Chicago, really true. It's true NYU was not your dream school. I mean, wow. Some people dream different culture, number seventy seven some people dream different. So. Eighty eight. It's byland. Remember, the number of historic start, some different people different. But you were talking seven we got. How much has your life been determined by the fact that you went to NYU and isn't that every every every night because this because I think it's like, you know, we essentially did start our professional careers as nights. I which is an advantage. You were talking about second city. Oh, yeah. Oh being around people that like watching them get SNL while you are across the stage from them. You know what I mean? Like watching them, get whatever they get like all that stuff. And then just being like onstage and being like, I am the person knew when the show was happening. You're not watching me which was like such a mind fuck, so I've so been in that position. But then like look at like Natasha Rothwell of you total and who's like. In the shore of stars. I love insecure one of the most exciting shows that is out there. I know. 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When you experience real joy for people that you love getting stuff in this business, you quadruple of the joy in her life. Like, it's really like when you and the like that is why I teared up when you were like, it would have broken, my heart. If you said, no because I was like it took me a while to get there. And I'm so touched that you're there, and I'm not, you know, is still fucking process. So like, it will change and all that. But if you choose to accept that joy. You have so much more joy in your life. Because honestly, everybody is getting stuff all the time. Yeah. So why not love it? When people you love are getting it. Right. Do you know what I mean? I'm just like holding myself listening to us. I mean. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't really have anything out. It's just I'm just so curious about well. And it's also I'm not I'm projecting totally on you drug. But it's really scary to be the person who get stuff because that's also happened to me. We're just like, I this is terrifying. And I feel all alone. And I can't complain about it because I'm more successful than my friends, and I have a friend who Silla dear friend who has a hard time. You know, just who do they're in that position or they're no such. She is in a position of not getting work. Dada Kati and so. It was really hard in our friendship is it was like, I can't share things with you. Because I'm constantly protecting you from kind of. Not a great site of your character. And it's making you a bummer because it's also it's not just with me that you're having this. You're having this with other friends, and it's like, it would be so much more fun. If we could all just celebrate. Right. And then, you know, sure enough because it does happen not on our timelines. But it happened for her fifteen years later that she's like got gotta really big nice thing. Good there. And she. Which is great. But also how much greater would it have been if she could have enjoyed all of us every type of away. Yes. That's I guess to that. Like, it just not that we not that tripping on us. It made me see this. But I was looking I was standing there and studio, and I were like holding hands looking at the fucking sky. And I was like oh my God. It does it matter. Everything is so big like, it's just like we are so small at all you have is like joy, and like any good energy. You can give other people like you. Go doesn't matter like we're all lucky enough to be out here healthy and doing this kind of stuff and like we get to like do the ship for rain once in a while. Yeah. And how awesome that your friend got this recognition that he deserved deserve Perry's? Also, just a positive in the industry. You know, what I mean because it's also. So like, the more people we love whose work we love get stuff. The better it is for us. Yeah. Because that means everything's changing. Why me hey, don't think twice. Obviously is media already written about this Lyle that he did that. What's so crazy about that movie is super bigly? It was not from the improv world. He had done like improv in college. And then he went into stand up into amazingly. Well in stand up like early twenties was on Letterman. She was out. Right. Isn't that? Why God he's such a regular guy that you forget how wildly successful. But it's a him in Malini and cruel were all in that little Georgetown, Kodori, really? So. And also the thing different species stand up and improv is like you kind of blow up on your only. Yeah. So then he started doing improv again a few years ago. He did that this American life thing. I mean wasn't that. It was like him like him sort of. He and I are both started doing improv. I think it was like magnet or something. I started taking improv classes at Magda. I don't know that that was connected to God. Got it got. I don't know. Exactly. But the bigly did a show at the Dow close marathon called Mike perfectly as drink. Yes. I remember. And I wasn't there for that. Then a few months later. He was like I wanna do that again. And he asked gathered, and because I lost this other job that Lang broke my ego. I was able to go and do that with them because such a dream? I wanna talk about this more. So what I want to talk more about the these examples of the end of one opportunity to sort of like drawing a straight line to like the beginning. Because it always does seem like you or someplace so cool. You know, what I mean like Tammy's writing for that is just the things I just listed. I was like that's the conduct high. Wary hop cultural stuff for people that live television are eight people that love comedy. Well, that's prestige stuff. Think you I've been so fucking lucky. And it's also one of those things of like the narrative, you know, what I mean always feels different than the right, right? And feels like different than how it is on the inside and the thing too. So that thing of a straight line. That's actually Barth the Beck exercise. That is have you guys ever read her? I don't know. Is this like a pilot Tharp like artists wake type of thing? Yeah. I need him. Yes. Yes. Steering by Starlight. Find your north star can't recommend it enough. Wow. Can't recommend it enough. Oh my God. She's so many amazing exercises. So one of them is like. Think of a time that you were so incredibly happy and fulfilled and like yourself, and you know, what I mean like, yeah. And. Pick. Now a time that you weren't the opposite. And then you can draw that straight line between how one thing led to the other. And once you do that exercise. You're like, oh my God. I did not even see that. And it's a hundred percent true. She also has this really collector is called shackles on chuckles off. What is this? Okay. So this feeling of an it's hard to get yourself to do because you're like, I don't because it makes you feel bad. But it's like a meditative thing where you have to think of a time in your life, and like really do closer is and feel it in your body where you felt like you didn't belong. You felt you know, like, nobody got you where you felt terrible about yourself and all that and really go there and really feel it in your body. And do that thing of like how does my head feel? How does might not feel? You know, what I mean like really find that feeling in your body and then shake it off. And then do the same thing with like a great time where you felt most like really feel that in your body. Yep. And that shackles off and then when you are trying to decide something like how something. Makes you feel because it gets convoluted. She's like is the shackles honor shackles off feeling I'm really going to your body. That's really good. Yeah. And because it really is that simple. It is. But it's hard to make yourself do. Yeah. Because it's also complicated. Because there's also sometimes it's not just a thing. It's a relationship. And you're like how does this relationship? Make me feel. A big one. Yeah. When you've talked again, listen to hundreds of hours of you. But like your relationship with Henry, again, don't we've really. Really really met like, but it sounds like he's a beautiful person is that and I only know that from you. But like you've also talked about like that was a relationship that was over months before it was over and how hard it is to let go of that. And like, it's really terrifying. To look at something somebody that you love that still in your body. You're like the dynamic as it is. Now is not right. And that's so scary to look at. Well, I think that what I've learned is that loving someone and having that person be right for you are are they are mutually exclusive are they're not mutually exclusive. What how they're not the same. They're not the same thing. So that's what's so hard about it is knowing. Wow, I'm not good for this person. This person's not good for me on. Fortunately, I love them like family. Yeah. And then I said I said recently like actually this on Catherine pats podcast. I said. It's this thing that's happened over the past like eight months, which inconveniently enough. It's happened over the past eight months when I was selling with a lot of other stuff where it's like. You really have to move on from this relationship. I had to tell myself because I had not and. He sort of moved on. And so I was like, wow. It's like this feeling that you have that you have to actively decide to just put away you went. I mean, it's this thing that's never going to because it's like it's like something in the world that feeling already takes up space. And so it's never going to not take up space, but you have to decide to take it. And like put it in the back of the closet, and maybe you don't shut the door of the closet, maybe the doors open, but whatever, but you do have to just put it away. But that feeling for someone else doesn't go away. And that's what's hard. But it's like, I never underst- it's meditation. It's like what thoughts that you? Like, it's letting the thoughts go by the old lake native American thing, the two wolves. Oh, no, no. No, no. I was just I was just responding to you liking this back to this meditative practice of just letting something go. Yeah. Where you're like. Oh, just because I have a thought I don't have to dwell in. It's just gonna go buy like a car on the road. Right. I mean, if you're if you're talking terms of putting something. Away in a clause. If you're giving it some vague like temporal thing. Like that. Like, I think that just means that you're displacing the feeling and you're gonna address it later on the the sounds obstr- abstract. But like just I feel like letting it just go and dropping it completely. Just not caring where liens might be like just to see how that. Yeah. Because there's also something so loaded about saying, I'm putting it in the closet, especially given giving giving giving your experience of the. Even that imagery. I will say this. You know, what I've discovered muting on Instagram. On Instagram has saved my life. Now, I tweeted to all the boys I've muted on Instagram. Oh, I'm just kind of like if if I get looking obsessive feeling about like someone I mute them if somebody hurts me, I'm Yuka if someone's not good for me. I just meet them. And it's crazy that social media even has this power. And I was talking about feeling a little depressed a couple months ago in Sudi was like it's social media. I think especially like when you start to get a little bit more attention. It's exciting because social media's like high like, we're all we're all looking. It's like, whoa. That's also not real, and it heightens all these kinds of emotions that you would ordinarily have. So the muting has been big might friend tonight. We talked about it like big Macs where like feels really good. And then you feel like hell hell big Macs. It's big men. Yeah. It's big Macs is all about. Max. Okay. I you mentioned earlier that a lot of times the narrative doesn't match up with what's going on on the inside. You don't have to get into too much detail. What's like for you? When someone comes up to you and says, oh my God. Tammy what a what an amazing sort of resume. What it would have background would a pedigree. Like, I mean, what is what is the thing that you're dying to tell to till like personal highlight out of these that you've done or. Oh, yeah. I was going to positive direction. Sorry. I was but you had no go positive. So don't listen to me. No, no, no. I'm not sure what I would say. Yeah. I'm not a I'm not sure what I would say for personal highlight. Like, honestly, probably personal highlight is some improv shows that I've done and also the best. Well, that's really kind. But getting to like there's some like shows that I've done where I was like. Wow. Like that felt moving and that felt moving for the those of us on stage and for those of us in the audience, and I also love how ethereal it is. I love that. It's fully gone. It's just us. Yeah. I do love that. And in terms of like what? It's funny. People say like can looking at the resume, it feels a little like social media to me, or it's like, you have very specific idea of what my life is felt like she was you've seen the jobs, but it's you don't see the eight months where I wasn't working. And didn't know where the next job would be. And like how terrifying? That was where else do like, it's funny like, and we do it ourselves in our lives. But like looking back at my twenties. I'm like, oh my God. That was the best. But I remember being a may twenty something like what the fuck. Yeah. I don't know what my job is going to be an all that. And like, yeah, you're just like hope it was so great because it was just about the joy of it. You're like, no. There was so much fear and uncertainty. It is it's very rose colored glasses like, but I mean, you sort of can't help. But how that weird misty eyed thing about it? It's like, oh, it was this formative thing, but you didn't know it back then, but they definitely try to then turn it back onto what I'm doing now. Like, especially when I'm feeling like, ooh, then I definitely try to be like Tammy of how many years ago. How would she feel like she got to do this? Unlike getting that attitude of gratitude that is a huge exercise. I think where it's like whenever I start to feel really bad. I'm like hold on a second. I actually like this is maybe sounds a little gross. But sometimes I will list the things I've accomplished naturalist. Karez self fully healthy. And I look at it. And I'm like fuck. Yeah. Like, I did I did so many other things I wanted to do. And it's like it's like when I was like, you guys are the future of comedy. And no, you're just comedy. I'm just the end of comedy. To such a kinship to you guys. G you like how I was in my twenties. Do you know what I mean? I I've been I like, this is so crazy. But like when we had friend Espy on the show. I said it's a her. I was like you were the professor that I used to seek out. You know, what I mean like when I was going to be glasses. And there was also you I mean, I remember Tammy Etienne spo- that was one of my favorite shows that I see any and then taming spoke did it did a to prop show like a couple years back and do the I'm right or was the it was obvious eighty and spell it was it was Tammy and Shannon, have friends and so. Yeah. Yes. Okay. So that was just so great. And like and just it's crazy to even be like, the my friends that I'm friends with Brennan's got Jones. You know what? I mean. I totally get it. But I'm friends with Dr Bernard Jackson. You know what? I mean. It's just like, and I think they would like roll their eyes and say okay bitch at me saying that. But like really that's those things that that is meaningful. And you guys like all those people are the people that inspired. I know us to even do what what we felt was like in our hearts to do in comedy doing what you guys feel in your hearts like this podcast fields. So true. And that's what people respond to. And that's like why do you feel like Kelly Clarkson is on what you need like that's how it's going to happen. I tell you why I love her so much. And I know why it's because she broke out. I think I've told you this when she like broke. I was twelve. And so I think I had just found realized I was gay at eleven when did you realize you were, oh, I can't put a time to so fun trying to you. I don't know that you've ever talked about conversion therapy on the pod dot on the main in the main Todd. Yeah. What's the non main pod? There's our patriarch on. Yeah. Oh, sorry. He's still not going to talk about it. If no I'm not going to talk about guys. It's a patron exclusive. Because we do that repulsed drag race recaps on patriotic. Yes contestant this year. Duffy Ray bottoms talked in depth about going through conversions yards. And so when we were reviewing that episode and did do a little bit of detail. But yeah, and it's so funny because it was something that I thought I'd like rear view mirror behind me for all these years. I was like I'm so past that, I'm a I'm living out loud to happen. So it was it was the first sort of outing which wasn't even an outing was my parents finding this like saucy like I am transcript and then with with just some random guy and on the internet the internet gave robot it was a gay robot. And then I'm so he found that. And it was just like two weeks of just coming home to like, my parents like crying like us all crying at the dinner table is only so many dad cry once before this when my grandpa died, and then I would just come home to him crying every day. And it was like I was like I am eventually you're just like I have to fix this. And so you'll do any responsibility. Totally and then, and then my parents just having this sort of gap and cultural understanding, which I don't begrudge them for at all they were just like, well, this is a problem. And what do we do we fix we fix it? He has plenty of native American not native American. White Americans who do the same. Yeah. And so, you know, they found this grip and done where they found this guy in Colorado Springs, who went by an alias, and who like had very just had a very sort of go by an alias because they constantly get harassed by like activist groups that are trying to do the right thing and shut this day. Love his cloak. Himself closeted. He's literally cloaked in. Shame doing this thing where he's daddy. Shane right athlete. Exact. There are so many layers of shame to this because but anyway, it was he was in Colorado Springs. We're focus on the family is like all these megachurches are super religious relief. Religiously fertile place, and is your older sister. She like often college at the college at this point. She's trying to an young I think she's listening, and she's trying to sort of straddle the line and sort of played a both sides, and she's she I don't give her the credit, but she really had to moderate in media. A lot of stuff back then and from far away far away. She was doing something like. I'm in her own formative experiences in college totally like, she, you know, for her to sort of be like like, you know, sort of learned into this other thing. So like, it's I think it's very different being Chinese. Yes. But being Isreaeli. Unlike we moved when I was three, and my brother was thirteen and my sister is a leg. It's also like you feel like your siblings are the only ones who really get it with your parents hotel. And so even like when my parents were being wrong. I still fundamentally felt like they were being right? Do you know what I mean? So it was also like I would be surrounded by people being like that's insane. That's ridiculous. And being like, well, but you have to see it from their point of view. Right. That's where sibling really comes in. Because they see it from their point of view. That's essentially what she did. And then at first my response was to lash. I'd be like how can you like like how can you sort of not pick pick aside? Like, how can you try to understand them because because your dad because the one who's in pain, I'm the one yet? But it's also, but so are they so where or you, and it's so unbearable. Yup. So just would you know drive an hour and a happy twice my dad. And then those those actually bonding experiences between me and my dad weird play where we would have the conversation. That had nothing to do with. It's like three hours of one on one car time, which is like, you know, fraud, and whatever, but that wasn't even I mean that was like the highlight of the whole thing because the sessions themselves were just I mean, they started out as just plain old therapy. Like talk therapy with somebody with a really fucked up agenda, totally someone with like, you know, quasi deployments on the wall. And then by the end that was when he started this exercise of just let's walk through all these different times. You've felt trying to towards a man how did you feel in your body? He would just try to apply these low blood just like didn't you feel terrible about yourself while you're attractive, and that's with the sources and then by the end. Yes. When you're at Elesmes, do you feel anything sexual and not not a horrible totally. And then and then that's that's true for every for everyone in the last session was when he was just trying to like give me some parting wisdom about the whole experience was there like we're going to do twenty sessions or was it. Like, it was limited because the timing of. It was I was going to college immediately after. This is the summer before college summer before you all closeted for NYU such first parents just being like, oh, my God, we have to do this. And then the the NYU came out of an it's funny that just all everything that's happening. Now is sort of like a result of that is butterfly effect it out of that. But as my sister was already at NYU, so she was sort of the watchful eye. And that's another thing that like she was foisted with and we haven't talked about. But anyway, you need to do acid with her. I need to do acid with. I don't dunno. She's a mom sitter. But she she's not frustrating anymore now, totally. But the last session he just tries to like he's just starts going into this anecdote about a former patient of has a him who. Well, he's and he's he starts he's he narrates in the third person. Who's like, oh, so the skies driving down the highway in California gets off at San Bernardino. It's too. Yeah. He stops by Denny's. And then he looks up in the waiters there. And the waiter starts making eyes at him. And and then he switches to the first person, and then he's like, and I was like I really going to have sex with the sky like starts to sort of and then catches himself like mid story being like, oh, I just I just outed myself. This is a couple of months ago, and like this is a couple of months ago. Like, this is a couple months before like before this before this last session with him. Yeah. He said this I just happened. So the this had just happened in. It was like very obvious to me that I was like, oh, this is all fucking show. Yeah. Thank god. You got that little P? Totally you like this does not work not work. And even the person who is administering this kind of quote unquote treatment that I thought well, you need this move out stop. And then one million percent like that. Honestly, I I was just like you gotta write this. You got right now. Right. This day. The best part was after my dad had very politely been like if you have any sort of referrals for people who do this in New York, we would love that. And then the funniest tomatoes is the funniest thing in the world after our sessions were saying our goodbyes, and then he pulls out the sheet of paper, and he goes, so these are the names I was able to find people who do this in New York. But you know, it's not a lot of it's not a lot of people in the closest person is in New Haven like sound like Connecticut town, like fifty miles away. And it was like, oh, yeah. Okay. This is we're not going to keep this going because people don't do this like in New York, and they just don't do this in general like he was a wonder if there was no one in New York because you wouldn't be able to a keep that practice running in New York too. You're exposed to the fucking right things. Let's so terrifying to me about like, okay? That's so obvious, and blah, blah, blah. And then it's fucking vice president. Yeah. This is how you absolutely believes in it and puts money to it. And we're just like. Yeah. I don't know. So anyway, that's that's the whole sort of learned. Did you come out to your parents for real? And we're like real this is beginning of senior year of college. So it was it was it was like me kind of going back into the closet after my sister graduates at semester, I tell my friends like I e mountain the rest of the comedy people in NYU, and then spent about a year and a half closeted again or caused it to my parents but out to everyone else, and then that sort of I remember when you even came out of college. It was like something you had said, but like it was like we were to take it with a grain of salt. It felt like that. It was like not confirmed information trusting. Yeah. What do you mean? Like, it was like it was we had heard that he had come out and went back in the closet before. And this is not we were as close as we are. Now when you're fighting over that girl. Girl. It's like gosh. Just like I have no one in my life. Doing great. But I. I met you when we were both quote, unquote street, right? And then you were I was gay. I and then you were gay. We were told that you had been also gay two years before. And then you about the closet, and so no one was really could be interesting. If I can trust him. Okay. Way we have to ask Tammy the question, we haven't even even asked the question. Let me put my button on. Because the reason I liked Kelly Clarkson is because being twelve. I saw someone I've America fall in love with someone for being who they were. And well, maybe someday someone will fall in love with me for who. I oh. So then I like was like well not yet. But maybe one day I'll come out of the closet, and then men can be Kelly Clarkson levels of beloved, you saw her, and you hung you hung that hope on her in a way she was huge for me because she was I just saw like America fall in love with her. And she seemed like, you know, at the time, I think I was very easily manipulated by that ship. But it's like she was the perfect George W Bush era girl next door, she wasn't because she was also being told nonstop she was too big by like by the gatekeepers by you know, Simon Cal very easily felt like it could be Justin Guarini, you know, what I think I wouldn't have been surprised either way. But I think I mean, if it is rigged, which I'm sure those shows are I think they've made the right quote, unquote, right decision. Right. Rag like, but yeah, I think that the reason she's been so lasting is. Because I think there's an entire generation of of women who look at her. And they say, you know, what I don't have like a stick thin physique my weight fluctuates. And I think a lot of gay men do attached to her because I think at a very formative time like she was like relentlessly herself and her personality, and I think everyone kind of just like really gravitated towards that. She's just offenses in a way and also obviously incredibly super naturally talent. But they do feel like that authenticity. Even more than the fans at it attracts because as you are seeing on social media people liking, you is a fickle fucking and will change, and you just cannot is like a I think it's an alanon thing that my friend said to me was like other people's opinions of you are none of your business. And I was like, wait. But it's literally my business. It's really. Not you think it is. It's literally none of your business that you can lose your mind about it God. But like her being entity yourself, I feel like is what has made her be consistently able to make music. You know, what I mean, whether or not people like the music is. And she'll always remind you how good she is. Like, that's the thing is like she's never going to stay in the limelight because of a century polled. She's going to stay in the limelight because she was fuck. She gave an amazing performance on some show. You know what I mean? Or like sh that's the thing. It's like it feels like every three years like she has like a viral moment. Like when she sang at Obama's second inauguration my country. It says of the it was like just so unbelievable that that's more famous for being Malay because I don't remember it at all. I remember hearing about it. And you're like. No, I'm happy to put the spotlight back on. Check out that everybody. Fiancee performing. Say that was the one where she famously lip sync to the national anthem and Kelly sang live. I'm sorry. But it's not a jab. It's just people. Remember it for being mad? But also that was a moment for Kelly as well. So it also like having just seen Larry Owens perform, and like starting to cry just as he's about to go on stage of is like what is it about this? And it's like, oh, it's because talent will out. You know what I mean? It's like an it's not even about like what other people say it's like how much I've internalized that shit. Yes. And just like feel like Kelly Clarkson, I'm sure she internalized ship. But she also didn't let it shut her up. And she is outspoken to very. Let's ask the question. Let's ask a question. Tammy sagar. What was the culture that made? You say culture is for me. Honestly second city 'cause shot when I was a kid like I grew up in Chicago. Yeah. Yeah. With grew up, and my parents would go to second city, and this is at the time where like you'd go, and they would sort of decide where you sit and my mom would fully lie about not being able to hear. Well. Say right up front. Josh young. I saw Steve Carell. Yeah. Bonny hunt and on that, Dan Castellaneta. Yeah. Mary gross. So like Tim Kesselring ski like since I was a little kid. How did not understand most of the stuff? But no, I fully remember seeing Steve Carell and Steve Colbert, we're in a show together where they did. They did the waiter bit. Maybe or was that before after that? Anyway. So amazing. Remember the waiter waiter bit where they're they're just like like they they for some like they're explaining the specials of the night. And they just for some reason it makes them super nauseous so there. Like on the verge of vomiting. They're describing I don't remember that. Oh, wait. That's oh my God. So what was the biggest difference between? Okay. We'll talk about. But but also I have to say like seeing second city and being like, and this is also when people second city weren't blowing her like, even like, maybe they've got us anelle. Maybe like that was the biggest thing, but it wasn't like Judd appetite times. Holy totally. So I remember seeing Steve Carell and being like, oh, that's so sad. He's never going to be anything because he's so talented. Yeah. And then it was like, oh, you on the Dana Carvey show that doesn't last, you know, more than a minute. And then it was like when he got forty year old virgin or even like when Inkerman happened. Yeah. Oh, wait a minute. Oh, so yeah. And then you you're pretty much ingrained in that system at by at that point. Maybe not even like, so I was a math major at you've see. And like, I really didn't see how it was going to happen. And then I did. Wrote a paper about improv and yet. So then I got into the improv group there. And that's when I was like, I love this soul. Much to me. I mean, you are basically. I totally spaced. I knew you were a math major at UC. But I totally spaced on just this the the trajectory being like, not necessarily a straight line either feel like an it didn't feel like it would ever get anything in also felt like I remember when I was like, I got it. I'm going to submit to some shows and like somebody from daily show at like fully told the producer. And I was on main stage, which is like the highest that you bet. Unlike said like we're looking for writers, and the producer there didn't he decided who we wanted to tell to submit, and I wasn't one of the people. But I you know, like, and this is what I've I haven't taught a ton. But when I have taught I've always been like don't worry about impressing me, there's a million people that I'm trying to bring up right now. But I'm like, but everything that I've gotten it's been through people that I've come up with Allison Silverman. Who's brilliant writer and Lino one of the original people at Kobe are, but she was at the daily show and she worked there, and she got that. Who knows I still don't quite understand how she got it because she got it from like working on like, you don't know Jack a game show on like we just Jack last night with hat. Oh, my God the newest one the fifth one. Sorry, she worked on that as a video game. And especially in Chicago at that time felt like you were nowhere, you know? And I was like how did you get the daily show? And she's like, you know, the there's certain types of year that you submit. I'll tell you when she told me when and it was like, I you know, I and I got that job offer. But they also then got the job offer at mad TV. Right. And then. Shows mad TV still like, okay? I think that. That. I didn't. I didn't fundamentally wanna write sketch or jokes. I wanted to write longer narrative stuff, and I just like it was very hard decision. I had that like twenty four hours of like, what am I gonna do her? And then. Yeah. And then I decided to go. It was also this is how long ago it was. But it was right before it was before daily show is union, right? Oh, it was pre nine eleven. He was. Yeah. Yeah. And it became his comedy central. But it'd be became union. Very soon thereafter. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I'm curious about what was the gap between you graduating college with a math degree. And you thinking I'm going to do this. I'm gonna do this comedy thing. It's weird. Because so I I got hired for something. How boom Chicago which is great. Yes. Was this close to going? I was like in a final call back further. The thing that was like four years ago. Yes. No that you did that. I did. Oh, wow. What was that experience? Like, it was really good. It was the third year. So it wasn't even year round. Like now, they like sign people for long on Chad. Two two year thing. Commit rab. Yeah. Mine was like seven months. Wow. Yeah. And it was like you fully had to go and hand out newspapers that like advertising the show like you do two hours it's called chronic for every day. That was so bad at it ended up doing bookkeeping like can I do this? But I got it while I was still in college. How great and actually was the beginning of turning things around with my dad because things were really bad with my dad, and I got this. I wasn't supposed to we had this fucked up agreement where I wasn't supposed to do any theater, and it was but at this point than I was in therapy, and my therapist we had gone to therapy with my parents and me, and then it was just turned into therapy with me. So then it was like she kind of had this role of like, she knew my parents. I didn't have to spend the whole time defending them to that makes sense and explaining what the yeah. So we had this fucked up agreement where I could live not at home as long as I did not do any theater which included even taking a class. And she was just like, yeah. They just want you to lie. Like they've set up a situation where you lie. And I was like, okay. So I performed under the ridiculous stage. Name of Sadie Cohen because everyone eighty. And like. Stage day, but I got this job and it meant like oh shit. I'm gonna have to go to Amsterdam. I'm gonna have to leave college before I graduate. And I remember calling my brothers ten years older than me being like, how do I do this? Because what I was going to do is just Kombi. Like, I got this. I'm going. Yeah. By and he was like instead of asking Abba for permission ask him what he thinks. Okay. Like, not ask for your permission. I'm asking for like advice. And so I did. And it wasn't like can I do this? It was like, hey, this happened didn't get into the details of all the dishes that I should not have been doing and. What a selective process that is any. He couldn't understand that. It was like a real. Well, again, this is how long ago it was. It was like when there was this book called let's go let's go Europe and the just had a shadow, and let's go Europe. So it was like this Leo's real thing thing. And so he was like, okay. Let me think, you know. And then he came to the conclusion, I should go. Okay. Well, I'm doing anyway who was there while you were there. So this was before Seth Meyers keywords beer before. He went the year after I should say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's one of the ones they say. Now you like and Seth Meyers know that he was the one who broke it open for like everybody. But but then coming back from that, you know, and also I started college and I'm born in December. So I was there at like twenty. So even though I'd like taking time off from school and graduated like at all ended up being okay? And then I got back, and I got second city within a couple of months because at that point, they they knew you had been real seasoned by you can just tell addition you can just tell that somebody's been on stage. Yeah. And so I really was really lucky. So I just came back, and I just finished up school. I just had like a class. Yeah. Yeah. So I finished up and had a good great. But he finished up just in and grow and graduated with a degree. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Great amazing. I mean, not that like, I know I know I didn't I school diploma. So it was important that I get a diploma so cool. I mean, a math. Major university of Chicago would have a math degree from university of Chicago would have been my dad like oh God. I can't even tell you. How much I understand all of that stuff in like seeing a hazard. There is a very similar. It is it is. It's you know, it's it's intense an immigrant father crying is like oh my God. You know, how much they've sacrificed. Oh, yeah. And this is the thing. Okay. And just really quickly loop. It back to the parental thing. With the conversion therapy thing in reading Joy Luck Club right now, it's all about mothers and daughters and forgiving each other and daughters forgiving their mother's about wrongs the other way around. It's the most beautiful thing just to like not care. I don't like I don't hold it against I truly don't hold it against them. And it takes a long time to get to that took me so long to get to that place. Because for a while. I even wrote a terrible solar show about this. I did try to write this in some sort not terrible. It wasn't great. It was flexible where you were. It was and it it would just there were no jokes. It was not it was it was it was part of a comedy solo show festival, and it was just no jokes devoid of jokes. But say there could have been more joke. Sure. There you go. We're not very leery would say was still hilarious. You had. No, Joe, still trusted me on stage. I and so yeah, I mean, I at that point I hadn't forgiven them. And now it's like, oh, I read the toilet club. And the how the audience can tell when you've forgiven. They don't it doesn't. They're not. They're uncomfortable uncomfortable. It's chilly. Yeah. Chilled. Tim I have to ask. Before before we move on. I don't think I have. I have a have to ask you as well. Okay. I just I really want to know. So I just really wanna know Tammy what is like like say your. Just writer creator of of your own show. What what is that? Because I'm so curious to know this just having this such a diverse granular diverse sort of resume and not to like bring that back up at like, I'm so curious to know like what the Tammy Sager sort of. Yes. And promoter is I don't know. And it's actually been like a real sticking point. And I recently talked to you guys about this off pod. Because you're connected to it finally enough. But like when I feel like I have no ideas is such a dark dark feeling. But like right now, I just don't care about my story. Do you know what I mean? And it's also just like, I don't I I just don't I just don't I just it's that time where I'm like I care about some other people's stories. And so I just I've been listening to something. I'm like, oh, I think this is a show God. But I don't know what my show is. I don't I'm not even necessarily asking like what is the taming sacred? No, no. I know. Right. Right. Right. But even this where I'm like, this is a show that I feel like I could run with you. I'm inspired by these people. But like, I don't even know. That's fine. That's that's it's okay. I mean, I yeah. I thought like during this break from from us, and all that I would have all these ideas, and they would work on all the stuff, and like whatever like I have all these premises thought out. But like didn't even feel compelled to like pen to paper. Now, you gotta fill the well. Sometimes the scary thing about like the past like maybe not year like past like eight months for me is just like I've always every year. Just always spit out so much credit stuff. Like, you know me. I know you like, and I have always creating and this year, and this kind of like last eight months, I think because I have a lot of stuff personally going on. I was just so much going on up here. And I think that's why I needed therapist. I haven't created as much, and that's got me in such a funk you need you need to fill the well, it's a tiny filled the well. Yeah. And also stop beating yourself up for like what your production is about. Also like as somebody who listens. I'm like you're producing all the time. Well, that's another thing is like like we sat around the table out our acid trip. And they're like everyone say one good thing that you're proud of over the past year, and they all went around, and it was coming to me. And I was like oh my God. I don't think to say, I don't know what to say. But it's not I have nothing to say crying. I was like. Oh, no. And then then literally as I was there. I was like wait hold on a second. Like, this is classic like killing myself for no reason. But that's the way it's great that you're with people who love you who know you be like this and also this and also this it was an important. Yeah. It's just like I think everyone is much like go easy on yourself y'all where I'll try and our best and to drugs. Oh my God. I would never. Another thing is I also really don't think that's like Phil weird about saying this. I was just like so honest on this podcast something like when when did this too, honest to honest, but I'm like, you don't need a judo people. Don't don't. Yeah. Oh, no. And I fully I don't you know, what I mean? Like an actually like me getting high shut me down so hard. I think there's also something to that. Yeah. So no, I think there's no blanket thing for anybody. No, very true. What what's your staff? Oh, here's what I have to ask. What was Katherine Heigl? Like, oh my God. Okay. So I wanted to tell you this that this and also the, oh, I have to tell you that and also about Tyra banks. Oh. Katherine Heigl was a fucking delay. And that she was loved onset like whatever I was there for a matter of hours, but like Judd loved her like she was a delay. I this is the first time had filmed every anything, so I fully yelled my lines because they were in the other room. So I was like it's fine. She was like she was whispering to me. And then I was like fully projecting. So they could hear me and then Judd managed like little smaller, so smaller, and oh, he means just like whisper just like, so then I just like concentrate on talking really quiet screen acting as just talking quietly Alec Baldwin like straight up just whispers. That's what Tina says to. She's like he just speaks at a low whispered yet and low decibel, and then you're like, oh, but it's all there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's part of it too. Where you're just like because especially as live performer. You're like, okay, we'll I'm selling to perform, and it's like all those instincts to shut it down. And just like trust that your is. Yeah. We'll just be as hard to you like I'm really big and just being I'm big too. But then it's like if you just concentrate on talking really quietly like all just sort of happened. You just like it's weird drag up hold on. I was like, whoa. I know. It's so, but it was like if you just told me like to be smaller, whatever it'd be like a. This is just like just so she was she was a delight. She was loved on says, she was left onset. She's a delight. And then it was such a bummer when that came out, and because as you were just talking about it because it was also like it wasn't like a few months after it came out. She was like, oh, cool. If it was like opening weekend. She was like, it was the bummer and all this. And it's like, oh, dude timing. Here's what I think. I think she could. I think a bunch of things could have happened. She could have waited to maybe express that particular opinion, even if it was justified, right. I think everyone could have maybe read that whole article because there is context involved. So not with you on that. I think that I think that Judd and Seth were way too harsh on her. We're not though at the time at the time they really handled it graciously you'd think one hundred percent there's remember as of recently though, I feel like people ask them about. But also consider how much fucking work that. They did like when you're directing and writing a movie like. Some his fully acted in like one and a half things. But like it's so much easier. Gino what I mean? And it's like she got to come in and be a starve a movie that the other start was like hustling and writing and you're right. All this word when the director is doing, and he's also like throwing all this stuff out, and then at editing for a million month. It was their baby she they have done so much what it work, and then she gets to be a fucking movie star up. And and they wanted an EMMY basically for that movie. She went for that season of Grey's anatomy. I'll tell you. She works. The buzz had had been the buzz had hit, and it was time to award benefited from that movie in huge way. And then the thing like the thing that really sells me of like do this is on Catherine not on them at all is what she did to the writers of great. You're right. That was very revealing that was trash trash. It was an, but I'll say this. But were you the one who I love that she took herself out of consideration. Is he thought she was being cheddar? And I thought fired. I thought she was doing what? Because when I was that was you don't do that. You just do it just do it. You know, some people do this where if they win the next season they will build sells for from consideration. But oftentimes unceremoniously actually on Shirley prison Adamy where there's many other actresses that are deserving of an office abattoir that very same award. And so I thought to myself when it was announced she was removing herself from consideration. I never choose to now. Oh and Chandra Wilson who and at the time Kate Walsh who really could have won that award. And she had on that angle. She could have totally been absolutely never sad to be nasty. Has to be nasty, and you can tell that was when I was like, oh, maybe now the knocked up thing does seem also like who is she being nasty to do. You know what I mean? Because like also in shoes and bus there us right for her woodshop. Yeah. Who BUSTER s like sixties a week when she's working what three days a week, and I know the multi, you know, the single Cam life is hard writer's. Life is longer hours. And you're not getting anything for free. And you're not getting your photo taken. And all that. To do that to them after they got you an EMMY, it's just so should the I wasn't given the material to warrant a nomination asks you and also on a show like that where they're trying to write for like twelve cast member yet and all the things that they must have done and like how much did she get from getting that? I'm you know, what I mean all the free stuff. She's getting all the more money. She's getting all of that. But yet. No, she's nobody's been our bigger enemy than herself. Yeah. They this is why you need someone an insider like Tammy Sega. That's why I wanted to ask the question because I did like, honestly, it's this thing that has followed her for so long. And I do think there is a sexist element to it. Because I do think that men have done way worse literally been nominated for best director at the Oscars. After their indiscretions. But I will say it's hard for me though. Because I'm just like, I I don't want a female asshole to get away with it just just got away with you're right. And I didn't asshole just shouldn't get away with. I think if she is indeed confirmed announce hall, which you know, the the things she said our asshole ish. I mean, she also does like nice thing she she organizes planes for like chihuahuas. You know, what I mean like Iraq's contain multitudes? Just as a writer. I would never want to write for her. Right. Just feel like they're you will jumped out and it jumps out after a year of work. It didn't jump out at the beginning. Though that jumped out the asshole it was a jump out. I wasn't a it wasn't a slow crawl. And we do we do aware that comes from right? The people say the so-and-so jumped out that comes from Charles on charm school saying to pumpkin was pumped. She said your behavior this evening was hor- like the horror jumped out and then he'll jump back in. But it out the hor- jumped out I mean, truly that is this is reality TV's made four and the fact that it has had that lasting impact. Huge can't believe Monique won an Oscar for precious and not that moment for each one reality show. Okay. It's time for I don't think. So Honey, I really struggled with my. I don't think. So Honey, I'm sure if so much self hey went into it. Oh, no. Because I'm telling you, I've listened to hundreds of them within a matter months, and then fully left it until but this morning do all this. Would you all the time early? Mine is barely written. So less less should I should go. I I have something very minus potentially very we're gonna go, isn't that Rogers? I don't think someone who's time starts now. I don't think. So you won't people say, hey, it's me no bitch. You better say your name if it's the nineties when a lot of people did this. Hey, it's me. It's me. I just picked up the phone voice memorize oftentimes, the, hey, it's mayors. I don't think so Honey, then because I don't know, you know, you if I do you can just say, hey, it's me who's me, especially, hey, it's me nowadays. Yeah. Bitch. I know who you are. I have a cell phone that says your name on it. And I don't need to hear. Hey, it's me just start the conversation. Everyone's valuable. Hey, it's me. No. You have a name that your mother gave you and your mother and your father and whoev- whomever named you spent a long. Time. Hey, Tammy, it's mad, and that is respectful to my parents, eighteen seconds. Hey, hey, it's me. Also, I don't like the cadence of it. Hey, it's me. Who familiar, especially if we maybe if we just got off the guys disconnected? And then you come back, then, hey, it's me, otherwise, I don't think so hunt, and that's one minutes. So I asked you fell down to the second ever. Call me and say, hey, it's me maybe like, hey, and I just get right? And you get right into your you're worth it. So this is talk to this is an interesting thing. So for people you do know who you are familiar with you would rather they just cut to the chase. But for people, you don't you? They have to introduce themselves to you. Yes. Interesting nothing in between. Hey, it's me. No, hey, it's me is the in between, and I don't want that limited space. Anyway, here's where here's where. Hey, it's me rears its head the most invoice mills sure, like, I know. Hey, it's me. But here's the I know nowadays. And then, hey, it's me back in the day when you didn't necessarily know who I don't have people's. I'm such a procrastinator that I don't always put people's phone numbers in even like it takes one second. Right. So I sometimes just have a phone number. And that's. Why that's why you need who? They don't. Let me just don't assume. Hey, it's me is never. Okay. Never. Okay. Absolutely. Thank you. That was that was inspired. Okay. I have one very loose. All right. It's very loose. Very loose the bone young store, and it's time starts now. I don't think so hunting getting motherfucking stamps in New York City. I was trying to mail in my absentee ballot for Colorado, sweetie yesterday. And it took me seven different locations to finally pick up a sheet of stamps. Here's here's the round down the post office on Atlantic avenue right by my apartment, the line was agreed us. I said, no, I don't have the time for this went to three different Bodega. The all said, no, we don't want to three different chain of pharmacies. Your CBS is Dwayne reads. Your Walgreens thirties there, none of them had stamps. And yet, the the US PS website said falsely claims that they do and yet I was allied to buy the internet which. I mean nowadays hack wouldn't the internet lies to you too. On the nose fifteenth. Exa Finally, I go into Manhattan, go to the post office on Veyrac and thank goodness, the lovely gentleman. There gave me a sheet of stamps, and this is not second finished wrong. The postal services a wonderful. They were the first line of defense for all these explosives that went out to all these democratic leaders, and that's one. Oh my God. Oh, I love a fifty five second negative. I don't think five second. But thank you. I say to my heroes. The postal service post usually like a vending machine. Any machine here in New York City? I saw I saw nary a vending machine these post offices. But that's what can we say Tammy. So anytime something not psyched about it felt like a thought it. No, no, stop the high know what's going to be. It's not it tried to hard. No. So whatever whatever Andre out of one hundred times whenever people say, whatever. Moment where we always want more. I don't think somebody is a low ceiling high floor for success this figure. Okay. This is sacred. I don't think so Honey starts now. I don't think so Honey me ending up in this shittiest of all time lines where the cubs won was the first semi lay adding lazy flipping switches, it never should have been flipped bundling. The outer edges of the Truman show glitches just in the names of who we are dealing with the few Republican senators willing to once in a while stand up his name is Jeff flake falsely, and he's not even going to bother running again and flakes Ivana in a okay and the feeling like they're no repercussions for any misbehavior except for the arbitrary swats of the universe. Flyswatter that somehow managed to splatter Al Franken's body against the walls of the US Senate. Bill Clinton is still doing a bookstore. No, one cares. And nobody blinks an eye when number forty five dozen to cry the murder of a Saudi journalists off. But instead says second that was the worst cover up ever. And you can feel as outrageous Foley. It'd been a better cover. He could have looked the other way to scream fake news. Which honestly remember when that was the problem Hillary was facing the election like a rapist eating the victim. But from the raped one. Oh, yeah. That's exactly what happened. And I don't think. So Honey, we're accepting a string court Justice saying he was virgin for years when the allegation was that penetration almost choking. Does he fumbled? And try to stuff is drunk and privilege, young rape, dick and failed. And she's seen as a victim. And I don't think so Honey, I don't think any. Fourteen seconds. And those every second was essential. And kind of tell you something that was the most words per minute of any. I don't think so Honey, and that Bush win the Guinness Book of world record, and the most holistic all covered everything that was that is happening every ill insists Honey we need for today. But also like what is happening in my other timeline. Oh in rather time line. Do you think it's much more positive? They also feel like I'm doing a better job of things. Do you know what I made any other time line? Yeah. I feel like if you might other time time-line me is just like a learn healthier. Yeah. You just just like making harder choices that are ultimately better. Okay. You know what? I mean. Nothing to do. It's preventing you from from doing that. Now, except my other laziness. That's what it is. Oh my goodness. This is Sadie Cohen. This is Sadie. I can't believe we had Sadie Cohen on the show. The second boom Chicago's second city, leptin. Sadie Cohen and writer for every show you like her fact television low Tammy segr- this is wisdom. So great. And I this like truly like I had I was so excited for this episode and just. Here's where shed tears were. Totally shed. Absolutely is please watch orange is the new black this upcoming season final season Aroo, and you love Tammy so much about guys. Yeah. So we end with the song. Oh. And slumped nice all the sun. No. Gotta go. This has been forever dog production executive produced by Brett Bom, Joe Silio and Alex Ramsey original podcasts. Please visit forever dog podcasts dot com. Scrap torch shows on apple podcasts. Spotify wherever you get your podcasts. Keep up with the latest forever dog news by following on cater and Instagram at forever dog and liking on Facebook.

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The Day We Met Dolly

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The Day We Met Dolly

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We don't glorify the game. We simply educating the form. The world on what goes on in st suburban american against the chronicles podcasts. Available on iheartradio app apple. Podcast where you get your podcast program prerecorded. Can i say something you got here this. This is larry bird to the show. I love you guys. I hear you every morning in the morning show. It's so weird coming to work. And i'm still dripping wet from the shower that good. Yeah it's very fresh. You're very weird. I don't know. I don't know. I think i'm ready to go back to a studio. I don't know anyway. We'll welcome to the day. It is thursday. I've been told it's thursday. Is this true. Thanks dad the best dad would say nate would say good morning. Danielle hi there. Gandhi pie froggy. Hello there hello death. Hello there straight nate diaz. This is a producer. Sam in the room that she may be echoing allows. There's another scary. Scotty be good morning. Who did i miss me. Good morning What song should we start with gandhi. Do you ever request. I would love to hear. This is me from the greatest showman. Maybe very version with. I think this is perfect. The other is the story behind the song. And why i think why god he wants to play it for all right. Let's do it. Let's get into thursday. Play it Not a strange to say is. We don't launch a program arts to be shamed scott. Run away love you. Us but then break down to just know that. There's a place i to be. This is here gene. Wanna cut me to term this. This is who well that is awesome. I love that song one of my favorite songs. My poor boyfriend has to listen to it on. Repeat when i decide that. I'm in the mood to listen to the song that movies incredible so you haven't seen the greatest showman put on your list. Let me just bring something if you can hear my voice. We understand that. We're having a glitch problem again because down. The line isn't doing their job today. So we're trying to figure that out. We're trying to call the people in los angeles and california that fix it but we can't get the phone to go through because the phone lines are working sleng you now. This is. what's going on we do. You know we're having issues with our audio our apologies. We'll get it fixed as fast as we can. And so there you go so here every other word should we just say every word twice here. We are glitch glitch ing. I hope hope you hear you hear hear me. I feel like. I'm one of those guys who has to solve the codes during world war. Two what can we say that will make it sound like they. Enter something understandable. I don't know. Let's go talk to chris online nine. At least we can hear us. I'm sure we're finding new york right. Scotty yeah hey chris good morning. Good morning you're just getting off your shift as a firefighter. Look at that era superhero. So you had an interesting call last night. What happened We got for a call for a woman who had her hand stuck on the passenger seat of her vehicle news reaching for something got stuck in the frame underneath her fingers stuck my gut so it wasn't like she was in an accident. She was reaching for like a french fry. That fell or something that fellow. Oh my god oh it was the phone i. Of course we we would risk limb in whatever just to get our phone for my receipt so hallowed take to extract her from the from under the seat about three minutes. That's a long time. That's not an easy fix manipulator fingers a little bit all manipulate your fingers. Is that the equivalent breaking her fingers. What was that. You're saying danielle that can happen to all of us. I didn't realize that can actually even happen down there. That your fingers can get sucked. That's crazy. I guess you can tort your hand in a weird way it goes at a certain angle that you can't get it back out. Well look you saved her chris. It doesn't matter if you're putting out a fire of or if you're saving a kitten from a tree everything you do is very important to us. And you're a you're a superhero. Hope you a have a nice sleep. Now that you're off thank you and what we'll do is send you an elvis. Duran morning show set of scrubs from hackensack meridian. And you stay safe okay perfectly. Thank you guys. Thank you so much. Are you hearing that. it fixed. Okay so so. It was human error that was causing that. Aw on this side of the look to be fair to be fair. I put out. I produce a lot of human mountains of human error everyday like big steamy piles of it. I'm personally responsible for so as long as we're now on the right course. That's all that matters. Thank you for saving us. Whoever that was Let's get into your your horoscope who you knew them with. Oh danielle will you help me out today or does kris jenner's birthday and kevin jonas happy birthday kevin. We know you listen every day. Capricorn as the year is coming to an end. Think of what goals you want to accomplish. Next year day isn't eight aquarius. Make your space feel more inspired at a personal touch to lighten the mood. Your days and eight pisces. Curiosity could drive you crazy. Stick to what you know before you go too far. Your days is seven. Aries a light at the end of the tunnel draws near start planning your exit strategy boy. You're the nine. Hey torres your sense of balance may seem off kilter. Do not make any rash decisions your days in eight. You're being pulled by many people looking to get your attention play by your own rules days. Nine cancer do not intertwined your personal life with your work life. it is best to keep your key interests. Separate your day is a nine leo. Your heads in the clouds. Relax and try to enjoy some peace and quiet. Days attend virgo. do not put the cart before the horse. Slow down your big ambitions and look to complete your longstanding goals. I your day is a seven lebron important. Truth is glaring back at you and calling you to make a decision. So don't delay any further. Your days attend scorpio. Stick to the facts. Do not try to embellish your stories your days nine and finally sagittarius stay away from falling down a rabbit hole. Chase your dreams. But don't get too involved your days at eight and those your thursday morning horoscopes controlled under the three things. You need to know gandhi. What's going on all right as of this morning. Joe biden is just one state away from winning the presidency. After taking michigan and wisconsin yesterday if he picks up a win in arizona push his electoral vote. Total two to sixty four just six short of the two hundred seventy needed. But it's gonna be a long road ahead. Nobody is expecting final results anytime within the next couple of days in the race for the white house still up in the air. People are protesting in cities across the country. National guard troops suppress protests. In in portland oregon. Well police arrested protesters in minneapolis. In new york city. More than one hundred demonstrations are planned across the country through saturday corona virus infection rates continue to smash records in the us with over one hundred thousand new cases reported yesterday. That's according to data released by the covid tracking project. Eighteen states saw record covid nineteen hospitalizations over eleven. Hundred deaths were also recorded pushing the total past two hundred and thirty three thousand since the pandemic began. Medical experts are saying that covid fatigue is a big part of the reason since people have just gotten more relaxed about distancing wearing face masks and washing their hands so do not stop keep following the cdc guidelines and finally froggy. Maybe today's your day. The newest version of the iphone twelve going sale. I'll actually i'm sorry. Go on sale. Friday but pre orders for the new phone. Start today tomorrow at eight. Am are you getting your tomorrow at eight. Am the iphone many iphone twelve many and the iphone twelve pro. Max guan the pro. Max is like it's like the size of a computer it's like on its two feet by one feet off of them out. Looks like you're talking an ipad. That's your answer to be available in stores on november thirteenth bucks. You can get that pre order in tomorrow at eight. Am and those are three things. You guys ready for thursday. A not okay. Let's every thursday. Come on this. Is i and gardai. Hey what's up. Khalid with elvis duran and the morning south may here and if you're tired of tossing attorney at night tries equal pure all night. It helps you fall asleep naturally and stay asleep longer through the night. Plus it's non habit forming and made with a blend of botanical like lavender and camomile finding retailers everywhere. This is elvis duran in the morning. Show so i remember that thing. We've to celebrate. Every november called movember worth guys would let everything grow out move ever since march people. Yeah today is national redhead appreciation. Day just won't let you know oh worldwide. Only two percent of people have red hair. The highest concentration of redheads. Scotland followed ireland. People die it. no you're not. I don't wanna take that away from you danielle if you have chosen to be a redhead. I think that's more important than just being born into it. Thank you you chosen to be. A red haired. People with natural. Red hair are likely more sensitive to pain. I've always heard this. Have you heard this straight name actually heard the reverse. They can handle pain better than the average person they're saying. There's a gene mutation that causes red hair it's on the same gene linked to pain receptors. It also means redhead usually need more anesthesia for dental medical procedures. But you're you're saying the opposite. I thought they could handle. Maybe i'm confused. We'll maybe i'm confused. I don't know i thought for sure. They had no souls right. That's in remember one time having we're having a conversation about red heads on the earned someone called him and said i just think they have a weird smell said they smell like cheese and admit that and you know what's even worse than the fact he said that is his admitting he said i mean i can't lie. They don't smell like cheese. What a stupid thing to say just to say but you asked i set. It was me. And i said they smelled like cheese but i think they do that anymore. Maybe you don't think they stopped. They heard they heard your complaint by the way. I just want to be very honest. He does not represent what any of the rest of us thing off not at all. None of us. Having red hair isn't the only thing that makes them redheads. Unique there are also more likely to be lefthanded. Oh there you go read heads Probably won't go grades because the pigment just fades over time. They probably go blonde even white but not gray. Oh wow and laser hair. Removal is really tough with redheads because it has to recognize the difference in shade and for some reason. It doesn't pick up the red hair so they can't get laser hair trigger also for some reason. Bees have been proven to be a little more attractive to redheads. Wow i gotta tell you. I'm i'll go ahead and say it. I'm very attracted to heads genders. Turn me on. They really do so. We'll just texted a wrong gandhi. Redheads aren't solis. They steal souls about a soul stand corrected. Hey producer sam. Oh hi how are you. Did you What'd you have for dinner. Last night last night. I made like one of those bowls with rice and kale and a kidney bean. Kind of mix it extra out pretty good. That sounds very healthy. I did a chicken. Stir fry with some with some broccoli and chicken. Stir fry elvis. maybe. I should put that on the list. Yes do stir fry You ready for your goods. i'm ready. I mean redhead pallet cleanser because wow skier so listener rachel johnson said. This story brought her to happy tears in florida. There's a single man named robert harder and he had a tough childhood. He went into foster care and spent years estranged from his siblings until he was eventually able to gain custody so because of his experience upper decided that now as an adult he wanted to adopt to save another life. And wouldn't you know. He fell in love with the kid that had four siblings. Of course robert walked out of there a new parent of five kids. He says it's so important to keep siblings together and he loves it. His life is now filled with laughter and loudness. Congratulations to all six of them because that sounds like a very blessed house and if you have a story that deserves to be featured email me sam. Elvis duran dot com subject line goods. Did you know. Are you ready for a shot up. Yes i did you know that rumor has it. Hitler banned marriage between redheads heads. Because he thought it would lead to a deviant offspring. Speaking of hitler did you know after their relationship turned sour. Adolf hitler's only male heir. His nephew william patrick. Hitler fled to the united states. Joined the navy and fought against nazi germany in world. War two up. Did you know steph. Shut helium patrick hitler. By the way. I'm thinking if i was william pat pat. Patrick i would go for the old name change right. He's drop that last one. Being william smith anything danielle your i report of the day on the way. What do you what lies were you making. No there's no lies today. i feel bad. Amc theaters losing so much money because of covid and we talk about how offset and cardi b. Spent their time on Election day two different ways. I can't wait to hear that. All right let's take a break. We're back after this. tell us. Text us in fifty five one hundred. We might put you on the air this texture. 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There were states all across the country that did pass the legislation to legalize it but until it becomes official you can still get in trouble for having it for smoking. Don't be crazy and smoke outside. They're saying to still keep in mind rules of alcohol so if you couldn't carry alcohol somewhere and drink in public don't go outside and smoke there either because you could get in a lot of trouble okay there. You have that look you know. I'll be very very honest with you. We're all just frazzled. I mean there are so many reasons in this world y. You're anxious you're you're fatigued and this isn't just about the election. It's about corona virus and this is the world itself and the news. It's been going on for months and months and months years. Yup it's just really coming to a head right now. Of course a lot of people you do everything you can to find a reason to laugh or just relax. And we're pretty good at that here. But i've found i've found a surefire way. I think this could help us all here in america if you're listening to us on proud. Fm in toronto. We have an idea. We need emotional support canadians. What i am so there for that. Canadians are wonderful to any americans who are struggling to cope with the everything in life. I think that every time. I've had interaction with canadian or anything with canadian. I've always felt a little more relaxed while walking away from that conversation going. Well they sure were nice and pleasant totally. I remember being in canada and asking for directions and not only were the nicest people that walked halfway there. They'd like offer a snack as well. Like oh were you new here. So i'm wondering if there are some emotional support canadians on standby i would like to receive an emotional support canadian i want to. I want to be assigned to me is. Is there a clearinghouse for canadians. Did we determine if they can call us from toronto on this line or not nate. I think they can call. I'm still not sure on the. Let's try if you're listening to us on proud of him in toronto. Call me now one eight. Well we'll see if it worked one eight hundred two four two zero one hundred you can text us at fifty five one hundred. I don't think that works. I don't know to canada. But every time i go to epcot the canadians are always very nice. I've been in canada many many times. It's so close to new york. I mean it. It's you want to go to toronto. I mean it is a major city just as close as chicago and it's great the museums. The food people all right so we need an emotional support can hideous on standby for our show. Try to reach out to us. We'll try to figure this out. That's garret garrett's brother-in-law is invent is from vancouver. Can get in touch with him. Do you think we're going to transfer all of our stress to this emotional support canadian and then they won't be so support anymore because they'll be stressed out. I think you're over thinking it in your angst your overthinking anyway. Just a thought daniel. You're ready to roll. share her. Okay i report of the day. What are you going on all right. So offset decided that he wanted to give back to the people of atlanta for getting out and voting so on election day he gave away free food he was. They're hitting up three different polling locations with food trucks giving out food cardi b. on the other hand shared a video of herself smoking three cigarettes at the same time with the caption how these elections got me watching these stations. Turn red so she was having a heart attack. She does shawn mendez and camilla. Cabello have gotten a dog together. You know that's the first step gamma dog together. The golden retriever and his name is tarzan off blake. Shelton is marianne gwen stefani. We know that. And guess how he asked for her hand in marriage. He did it the old school way he went and he actually asked her sons for permission to propose. How do i mean every time. I hear something about them i just go. Oh my gosh. I even more so cute. I just so adorable kelly clarkson does kelly yoki on her show until the other day she did a little of the killers. Mr bright side. Here's what it sounded. Like i got and mariah carey you know. She's decided it is the holiday season and so her song all i want for christmas saw streaming platforms. Like go crazy. It was up one hundred and sixty percent on november first and the second so people are wanting to get their hands on some holiday music. Amc theaters this is so sad. It looks like they're gonna lose over nine hundred million dollars. Due to covid nineteen ninety percent drop in revenue. That's a vince. Vaughn said there will be a wedding crashers sequel. If you buy yell exactly and okay. I'm going to end with this. This is just so wrong. There's a seventy two year old grandma and she's being scammed by a guy who says he's jason momoa and that he's in love with her she he. She met him on facebook. They've been chatting and every day. He sends her text messages and phone calls. And says i love you and little chats and guess what he keeps sending her money and then telling her okay. Now you take this money. That i sent you and put it in this account. So what he's doing so. The police are now investigating. Its research the poor lady and she's so innocent. The police that she's just so innocent like she has no idea she thinks is just normal. The bachelorette is on tonight young sheldon. It's the season premiere of that mom. This season premiere of that. You've got the packers and the forty niners and keeping up with the kardashians and that's my daniel reports scary. Can you find canada in the system. I'm sure it's in there somewhere. Yes i'm looking. Forward do a search for canada great by the way. I've been typing to you and nate in this in this this text room for a minute and no one's no one's paying attention and aid is his nose i kid you're talking to canadian. Gimme a canadian. Line three robin robin. I'm trying to find. Oh canada to show you the respect you deserve as a canadian version. We don't want to play the south park robin. What part of canada are you from. I'm from a small town in ontario. Just south toronto called area. Can you hear something new york. Can you hear a song proud of him. I can't so. I listened to in the morning when i'm working out In my gym. And i listen to the station from peoria. We'll take it and it will take you any way we can slash. Here's my question. Would you be willing to be an emotional support canadian. We need you. We need we need to call see the way you said. The word absolutely just was calm. And you know what. I heard your voice robin i heard. Calm down elvis. it's going to be okay on. Come over here that when either set of problems up here. Here's something tells me that you i would be able to de-stress somewhere north of the border fashion. I could south of that border. I'm just. I'm just saying my wrong. No current present. Well you guys feeling a little more calm now. That robbins on the phone. Yeah totally robin gandhi. Wanna ask of robin or danielle. I'm robin will. You adopt me if i need you absolutely. Can you send food. We just want to say thank you. Thank you for your calming presence. Just having you on the phone is just he scary. Push the button. Let's see here. This is for you and all of our emotional support canadians. That's lovely even. Your national anthem has a calming effect on us. Thank you thank you for calling up no matter how you're listening to us but we appreciate if you have any friends in toronto. Tell them to listen to a proud. Fm we were so proud of our our new family there. This music is our favorite. We love that station. Thank you for listening. You have a beautiful canadian day. Do you made our day. Oh no issue but thank you. Thank you all right there. You are emotional. Support canadian number. The way we're gonna call her have her on speed dial so they now that she's gone. I have more questions day. Bring your back. Okay we'll bring her back when you're an epcot in canada they have this little maple lollipop. 'cause you know the the maple syrup is so good. Maybe she gets sent some those epcot. Yeah they're open. I think he'd rather gets the real deal from canada as soon as we can. We are going to invade. We're going to invade proud of him. I know exactly where they're located in town. I know how to get their trust me anyway. Should we take a break their straightening elvis a good he. He took his finger out of his nose. He'd has been very dry lately though. Have any of you guys notice that. Yeah my nose is. It's producing chips. And salsa. I got a lotta crumbs as i call it. My ears was noticed that two years have been very crummy lately to talk with that said we should take break and just reset. We'll be back after this. This katy perry shawn mendez. Durant elvis duran and the morning show elvis duran and the morning show before you get your gaming on help. Keep those items. You've bought like weapons and skins safe. Get norton three sixty for gamers device security and more without the notifications save twenty percent on your first year by using promo code elvis dot com slash gamers. And you guys miss my day. Every single day love the morning. Show right you can always turn to google it. Find out what the world's thinking. Google searches for liquor stores near me at an all time high election night. True also fries near me. I thought that was of great. Oh god i. I need fries the Ten states where most people were searching for alcohol on on election night where rhode island new hampshire massachusetts connecticut vermont. Michigan ohio delaware arkansas in new york. I didn't have to search. I knew where it was. Also in the state of new jersey where marijuana was legalized on the election day. New jersey became the latest state of course as you know to recruit marijuana apparently how to roll a joint was huge in the state of new jersey. I mean that was fast. I mean he's wasting no time. It's so funny. Because i used to is used to call me. The joint. roller people would bring their plot to my house. When i was in when i was younger. And they would say here. I they would just roll it. I've just rolled a bunch for them and they would let me have one. They believe what were you. What were you known as the joint roller always used to roll joints too and my boyfriend's friends would make fun of him because they're like debts guys job. How dare your girlfriend roll. Your joints like please. This is how stupid are you serious. You're gonna give me the lack of quality of the part that i would roll had seeds in it so i i was also the d. Cedar clean it. You gotta shake it on the cardboard box the seeds out. If you don't donor. You have no idea what i'm talking about too much work. But here's my problem. Now that's legal in new jersey. I don't smoke it pot upon puts me to sleep. It's like i was legal. I needed it. What's up frog. I'm the phone fixer anytime. Somebody has trouble with their phone. They always call me phone fixer. You might be the joint roller on the phone. We're all we're all needed for some reason right from. What are you danielle. What are was always the designated driver like whenever we went to the clubs are went to the bar. They knew that daniels not gonna get wasted. Show be okay. She'll get us home. How many times. I was in the bathroom. Hold people's hair while they are vomited daniel. That's very important role. The designated driver hair holder absolutely agree absolutely also when it came to all things pot. They would call me. Hey how do you make brownies. Why are you calling me deviant. He scary. What are you doing for people call you for. What on the song lyric guy. They'll three words to a song. What song and then. What song is this. And i'll have the title artist and even year. Really i scary. You're you're my. If i'm coming to new york and i want to good restaurant year. The restaurant you know where. I got my restaurants from right elvis elvis easy. I kind of pass it on to you because now i don't go to restaurant. Well no one. A lot of people don't and that's a shame. I miss my restaurant. What's the discount hookup. Like if i need a hotel tower discount. I call scary. 'cause he knows who i need to back with just like the guy who got in the restaurants. This guy gets hooked me all the time. True gandhi your to. What are you going to four. I think i for my friends. I am the go-to for my god. Did you know that this was an animal and it's always something very strange. Usually i didn't know it was an animal. The actual dot me recently. Yeah you know you're animals. You really do a temporary seven to four. I'm the sex toy lady okay. She probably knows the latest models. Yeah what's new. What's trending you know. Nato you know you get a lot to our get questions about pop culture. All the time like so is this really going on with cardi b. an offset and honestly. I know exactly what you now because we just told you that my favorite is when they go. Okay so give me the latest entertainment from the day. Go navy enough for anything. I have recently become the am. I having a stroke guy. Good as evidenced by scotty beat this past sunday at ten thirty am kills to confirm stroke. Happens relatively quickly right. What's targeting pain on the left side of my head. My eyes twitching. I like you've had two stroke like a lot of people a call like. Hey i think. I might be having let me call this person instead of nine one one. I taught be responsible for this. And it's got me. We call him for coupon or shipping. Yes yes. I am a whole stack of packages. They have to go out from you guys. I like this this texter. Nate is the. How do i get rid of a body guy murderer. Someone's asking five ever been in jail. No i have never been in jail now. Oh you know what else i. I never plan on being jail. I'm the nurse of the show like if you get a cut or if you need like an antibiotic or you think you have sore throat. I will get the hey My throats a little scratchy What do you think i should do. And how many times. I've said I think you should go to a medi clinic to your doctor and get checked. What should i take for this. You know because. I think. Because i have kids. I know all those answers. Oh god people are texting into there. Are we teaching again. No these are affiliates that are one hour delayed and we're just signing on the air Delay brody here. Pickup ronin brody's in charge of customer service. Hey brody brody. Those people from madison wisconsin. You wanna four. Can you let them know that. The glinting is about to stop. We predict we can see into the future. It's about this topic that's fine or you can let them know an hour from now. 'cause you just did also i'm the. How do i cook. Chicken parm guy. Hey brody you are. You're the expert when it comes to getting satisfaction with customer service. You're the guy for that and now our listeners are tweeting me and emailing everyone of their problems and i i am now for free offering my services To them and it tells you how to get a free dessert so and ninety five percent win so you go there. You go all right. Well thank you brian. Thanks for being on the front lines appreciate it. Hold on one. Second we got cindy online one Hello cindy what's going on. Can we just rewind this conversation for a moment. I wanna know in this day and age with the five hundred ways or automatic bong who still rolling joint. I know it's funny. Young people still like the old fashioned of joint rolling balls. You know i. I can make a ball of anything i we. I haven't tackle ended in my front yard. I'm gonna use it this weekend there. You go inventive. Yeah that's good. This is gonna be a weird when we actually use an entire house where we poked holes in the walls. They were smoking through the walls smoking. The house was like a big. I'm assuming that that foreclosure. Oh my god. I i know but you know. Most people are doing edibles these days but they made me fall asleep. I'm just. I'm just an old hag. I'm not i'm not funny role. Keeps you awake. It's like the anticipation. This is getting way too deep into the marijuana conversation but listen thank you for listening to us. Love you more. Have a great day Yeah danielle did you. did you ask you. did you vote against legalization. Of course i have to hand. I which is a whole different perspective l. different perspective. I'm with you. I'm with you. Daniel set where you. I'm in michigan right now. Where it's all very legal completely recreationally and this is how they're actually selling it here. I don't know if you guys can see it but it's a little like pullout box perfectly rolled join like a european cigarette. Box isn't it. I know there's so much was that This one i think was twenty five bucks. Geez yeah not bad. Jessica is the go-to person online. Twenty four jessica. People come to you for what reason to calm them down there oughta bat trip. Unlike drugs again trip trip like a trip trip like special mushroom or like a trip to migra falls. It was just kind of got lost. No that'd be interesting. Not so what do you do. I mean. Do you actually sort of try to hypnotize them or bring them back to reality. I don't how do you handle this. I actually helped them with mindfulness techniques. I help round themselves. And i have been telling us going on and have slipped. What's going on in their mind. I guess you know what's interesting about this jessica is. I don't think people need to be on average for that to help them is such a powerful powerful thing and i bet any of us who were going through a bad trip meaning a bad day. Lots of anxiety tension. I'm sure whatever technique using for the drug thing could work for anyone right a little bit. I mean i guess. I personally never tried any of those so i don't know why my friends rely on me but they do you sound as if you're very well. Grounded has something to do with it a little bit. You should probably go into business. Call me now. If you're on a bad trip you know. Get their credit card number and go go to town. I will thank you catch. You should do that. You need to new. You need a good pr firm. Thank you for listening to us. Jessica wow this is a strange conversation. You know what it's like. Ten years fifteen years ago we would never be talking about any of this on our show. Some of my friends didn't even know that bill was on there like i said. So what did you vote for that. And they were like. I didn't even know that was on their side. Exactly it was on the reverse side and so they they didn't even flip it over. I didn't even. i'm like great. Okay great well there you have it. Is it time for three things. We need to know the news. Always changing. i hope you're keeping up with gandhi last night stories. Yes i'm trying last night. No i'm gonna keep you up to date with everything as as it unfolds so right now. Joe biden is within striking distance from winning the presidency. He won the battleground states of michigan and wisconsin yesterday. If he wins arizona that would push his electoral vote. Total two to sixty four which is just six short of the two hundred seventy needed. He had a slim lead in nevada. As counting continued yesterday evening but election officials say they don't expect to report further results until at least later this evening in the meantime president trump's campaign is filing lawsuits to stop the vote count in pennsylvania. A statement from the trump campaign says the vote count must stop until there is meaningful transparency and that republicans must be able ensure that all counting is done above board and by the law. The statement went on to call pennsylvania's secretary of state unhinged and a member of the radical left the trump campaign is also filing lawsuits over. The vote counts in michigan as well as wisconsin coronavirus infection rates. Continue to smash records in the united states with over a hundred thousand new cases reported just yesterday. That's according to information released by the covid tracking project where they eighteen states saw record hospitalizations over eleven hundred deaths were also recorded that makes the total death count in the us over two hundred thirty three thousand since the pandemic began. A medical experts are saying. Don't stop following those cdc guidelines. Because that's a huge part of why things are climbing people are getting fatigued. They're not wearing their masks. They're stopping social distancing hanging out with people not washing their hands. So don't do that. Continue to follow the guidelines and finally engineers at purdue university. They've come up with something really cool. And it's going to eliminate air conditioners all together. They say it's a new cooling paint. Yeah why it's a. I know they say it's a revolutionary white paint that can reportedly keep surfaces up to eighteen degrees fahrenheit cooler than their normal temperature. It absorbs almost no solar energy and actually sends away from the surface. It's covering researchers say. It's kind of like turning any space into a refrigerator. Only without the energy cost. How cool is that. It would be amazing if that actually works. So this is like oprah thermos. The third never figured out how a thermos could keep things hot in the cold. And things called magical. It's no it's beyond anything. i can figure out gandhi. Thank you so much by the way everyone who's taking in and offering me ideas better smoke so i don't fall asleep thank you. I'm not. I never smoked pot anymore. I leave that to you. There's more for you to have. I don't need it. i don't i. But i appreciate it. Normal one more person and we need to talk to online twenty four. We're talking about who you're the go-to person for who more than looking for. norma high. elba's hello i. I was the go to person in high school. Because i copy the pencil signature. So they would come to me when they wanted to get released from school your signature. You can play. You can actually write principal signatures. Yeah look at how. And you're very proud of this still to this day. I love that i am. I was kind of nerdy so no one would ever suspect. I would have done something like that so i got away with it many times. It's the nerdy ones. You should watch out for those those the parties let all right. Thanks for listening. Norma go have a great day on sure. Thanks for being. Had we appreciate it all right. Let's take a your one thousand dollar. Hulo toshi free money phone tap coming up for you next phase and morning show elvis duran and the morning show. I don't know if we should play this phone tap. All i know but you know okay. We're about to play a phone tap. It's daniel phone tap and this is from the days before covid. Mind where she plays someone who's obviously very sick and coughing a lot. I just think it's disturbing to hear someone cough. You know what i'm saying. It's like i don't know last time we did one of these. Daniel is sick phone taps we got. We got yelled at you. Don't you know kobe. Pandemic going on the problem is that we've got these. This context is everything. You just said it right there. This was recorded during non cova times. And they'll know she's on the phone. You're not get anybody on the phone. It's not but i'm telling them that. I still wanna come. Even though you're eight months into this the sound of a cough means something totally different. It is does. I was at the grocery store the other day. And the guy in the next. I'll and there was something that i was like. A cough sneeze and i needed something in that aisle. I'm like i'll go back to that later. Those germs breath. Before i go all right so it's against. I'm just telling you it's against my better judgement to play this phone tap. I'm just letting it be known. This is more proof that i'm not the boss. I don't make the decisions around here. We're going to play this phone tap and you're going to have to remember. It was recorded a longtime before cove was around. But you know we still have colds and flus back then. Yeah it obviously didn't bother us all right. Well this is the Hello toshifumi goto hauteur. She dot com slash elvis. You get ten percents off your order. Plus free shipping if use the code elvis. It's so cool. It's only seventy nine dollars. We love hauteur she. It's the most fabulous day that you hook up yourself and it just it just cleaned your right out off cleaned you off it's clean. It's environmentally friendly. I just love it. And i know it's really weird thing for us to talk about how much we love it. But i'm telling you it makes all the difference in the world try wiping normally then try the toshi and you're going to be changed for life seriously. Why would you wipe off any like if you need to clean up. I'll four which. 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And also we'll give you a very own toshiba day it's fabulous that's a great drag name. Oh please ladies and gentlemen welcome to this as toshiba. All right again go to dot com slash elvis get ten percents off your order plus free shipping and then it says. Use the code elvis. Both i don't understand. This isn't making sense We'll we'll get an answer on that. Okay here we go. Here's your phone randy. Elvis duran phone tap. Daniel phone tap him hoping this is one of our. What's it all about. Kim is being phone tap by her sister kelly. I am the caterer her dad's having a birthday party. And its tonight and of course. I'm coming but i don't sound very well scared looking for cable. Kelly please this is she. This is kim kim. this is a bad folks. catering how are you. i'm three okay are you okay. They'll have good. No i have allergies. I've just have allergies. I just wanted to confirm the address for the party tonight. Yeah i'm gonna do the cleanup but help serve and everything. But they didn't give me an address book to be so. I just wanted to make sure that. I had the right address. Okay ensure you're not there don't do. I have allergies just allergies. Big deal My father cannot get sick. And we're having the birthday for about six allergy. So he'll be fide right. Okay eastbound. awful. I'm sorry i don't. I'm sure they're just allergy. But i can't have your coffee. You're on my dad. I'll wear gloves and able breathe on anybody. That's what you are really good like. They come through the door. I've always like hi. How are you welcome to the party. I you can't even get through a sentence. I'm not gonna letting my dad you'll live house but you don't know what i've allergic allergic to. Nobody thank god. You sound like have bronchitis or something allergic to cheese. I use survey tease at the party. 'cause i make sure i don't touch the cheese allergic achieving your caterer by wear gloves. That'd be all right. Are you joking mary now. You know what. I can't deal with this. I'm so busy. I had to hire an uk. Renou so do catering. I don't understand. I don't i will go to your data sound like i'm going to give him a lap dads for his birthday or anything. You're not working for us tonight. Alright year let go. I need the buddy. You can't do that way. I could have booked at other party. And i did. I buy beside. You can't tell you again. Oh my god you're psycho please leave me liable your father. I promise late samui alone. I have a very important day. That i'm planning and i do not take all kami again. Do you understand me. Just give me the address the address. I'll call the catering company get it south not advocacy stress today She's really says. I here's what you're gonna you're gonna just call her and then hopefully she'll tell you what just went down. Okay so listening in now. This is all you okay. Okay hello hey oh my god move life and if you want me to pick anything up yeah i want you to pick up a caterer the catering hall and she was coughing like disgusting of god. You wouldn't believe this woman. Oh my god she coming dot no fired her. No we need a new caterer. Why did you fire decatur. At least why didn't you get her boss and get some help call. Why don't you get off your ass and make the phone call yourself. I'm sick of dealing with the car asking for what you need a million talking more. Maybe i should call elvis duran. He might be available to cater the party. Elvis during the morning show you got no home me on l. much. Thank you sweet. Jesus for getting me through that. That was the most disgusting thing i've ever heard seriously. Oh god all right. We're keep in mind. That was recorded long before the cova anyway. Thank you danielle. That was your free money. Phone tablets could see tracy online thirteen. Hello tracy guess. What are you doing well. Now that we have the nicest he's out of the way. Let me be very frank. You just want two thousand dollars. It was seventy at the congratulations tracie linkedin. There's more excited. It's time for more excitement. You also on your very own cushy. Hello that tissue is going to clean your right out. And i shouldn't say cleaned out. It's not really supposed to go that far up cleaning you're supposed to knock on the door also come on in cash. Hold on one second. Thank you until she. We love being partners with you again this this week. Hulo toshi dot com slash elvis. You get ten percents off your order. Plus free shipping it's fabulous. We love it we love to. She's thanks to them. Another one thousand dollars free money. Phone tap tomorrow froggy. Why can't you home when it's on turned on when the toilets running to refill the tank while you flushed. The water pressure is not as strong but once the water shuts off to refill the tank. It's like whoa. It's like off the bowl pressure washer. Yeah nice it's like you're right there at cape canaveral you're lifting off for outer space cleans so again go. Hulo toshi. Dot com slash elvis. It's so important that daniel you ready to go all right daniel. You'll have this hour all right. So jeff and lauren low. You remember them. They took over tiger king zoo and looks like they're about to sign a deal to make an x rated video with three sex scenes. Won the two of them. Yeah the two of them one with another woman in one with another guy. John thought you were going to say animal. Police legal gone guys borat to is already. The second most streamed movie in america. Congratulations you know why. They supported election coverage night on c. Actually actually number one. So congratulations drop. Their hamilton is number one congratulations gucci mane. And his wife are expecting a baby. Boy it is his second child and his wife's fourth no word on the due date yet But i'll keep you posted More details coming out about the death of the babies brother glenn so originally. They were saying that he committed suicide. But now it looks like it might be something different. Police are saying that they received a call about an assault with a deadly weapon and then when they got there they found him dead from a gunshot wound so they are still investigating this. Of course our best is going out to baby. We've been following the conservative ship of britney spears. Right doesn't want her dad in charge anymore. Well her lawyer is actually trying to make it happen to get her dad off the case because her dad hired a new business manager after the old one retired or stop the working for her but didn't tell brittany and didn't tell brittany how much that they were gonna pay this new person so britney's not like in the loop for things in there saying this is not good for her. You need to keep her in the loop so they're actually trying to get rid of the dads so we'll see if that happened Lady gaga voted for biden. Bernard dad voted for donald trump. And this is a big story everywhere because if you saw the trump rally the other day he didn't say such great things about gaga so a lot of people were like. How could your dad go and vote for someone blah blah blah. So is the big story. That's out there today. Just letting you know sam. Smith's new pop album came out last week and sam was very concerned because he said it was a departure from what he usually brings us usually. It's not pop music so he was a little nervous. But i think people are accepting it. I think they're loving the pop music and nikki. Bella says that she dreams about her axes and that it actually helps with her relationship with artem. She was talking about this in her podcast and she said she has caught me with her ex is in her dreams like they sit down they chat. They have coffee and she said for some reason. Reuniting with them is really helping relationship in real life so strange. But i don't know you guys have dreams about your xs ever know an nightmare. Hope dreams about your sometimes the bachelorette is on tonight. Young sheldon the sneak. Peak season premiere of that mom. The season premiere of that. You've got football the packers in the niners and of course keeping up with the kardashians. And that's my report not only. Is it national redhead appreciation day. It's national donut. Day yes. i wouldn't mind a little doughnut right now. I may have to roll down to dunkin and finding something donut. Now if i if i get an apple fritters considered a donut. I don't know sure it to donate his round with a hole in it. Oh well then no. I don't know the donut. Supposedly came to manhattan under the dutch. Name of all lecoq's meaning oily cakes. I'll really shut me up doughnut. Do u. g. h. is the more traditional spelling but we have shortened it to donate do in ut and it may have been created by mistake wants to reportedly tells of a cow who kicked over a pot of oil into a mixture of of pastry cal so interesting donut day. Crawlers are good to into froeler all right so national donut day. Enjoy your your doughnuts. Have anything to add to that. I know that's with frosting on it. I love smelt one. You just defined donut as round with a whole. I dislike boston cream. Donuts don't have holes in them. They have cream as anything. Creamer jelly filled. Can it can be considered a donut. I guess so does say yes or no. I don't care it doesn't matter. I'm not going to be offended if you think it has to be around with a hole in it or not. i'm not. I don't care but a bagel is different has to be around has to have a hole in it so bagels not sugar free. Do by the way when you go to get your doughnut. Look for which is the biggest one and go. I'll have that one. Yes he's the pick. It looks bigger picking lobster. I think the biggest. Oh lord so dolly parton. We had a little conversation with her late yesterday. And we're gonna play it for you today. It was great talking to her. I'm just letting you know. She is one of my most favorite people on earth. And i can't really tell you why she is. She's happy he radiates happiness. Ask about her that you want to be around her. Yeah your name. He's an icon. Like i don't know if people realize this but she's been around through everything and she's set the tone for music period not even just like country music but like just music period. All of these people look up to. It's crazy and of course one of my favorite films of all time nine to five dolly parton. When i love was best little whorehouse in texas. Did you ever see that steel magnolias. What a great i know. Yes steel magnolias. She played the hairdresser friend. Oh a lot of people don't know for they don't know that i will always love you. The huge hit from whitney houston was written and originally performed by dolly parton. She wrote that she she. She wrote that song and she's saying in best little whorehouse in texas the movie. She wrote that song in that. Are joe lean. I think if. I'm not mistaken afternoon like two hours. She wrote to huge massive hits and and she brought us dollywood anyway. Obviously we have a lot of love for dolly parton. She has a christmas album out. We're gonna talk to her about that coming up in like forty minutes. I guess and we're gonna play a song. She did a song with michael boob way. He'll we love as well. And i can't believe told her the story about the unzipping his pants with my teeth. I can't but anyway. And she said she was going to tell michael spending the day with him. You'll hear that story and many more dolly parton coming up at twenty. After the next hour we gotta take a break. We're back after this look brand new listener. Thank you so morning show. Here's something you can do right now. To save money get honey. Honey is the free browser extension that scours the internet for promo code and applies the best. One it finds to your cart. Get honey for free at join. Honey dot com slash. Can i say something. The only got here this. This is larry to the show performing year guys you every morning into store and the morning show. Well look what the cat dragged in these creatures. Gandhi daniel there's froggy. There's scary there straight. Nate through scotty be producer. Sam checks in and we gotta get. Can you get her on the line. We're about to go around the room. She needs to be on also later. This hour of the one and only legend dolly parton is going to be on with us. Hey so interesting. Question from nate if he's drinking a non alcoholic beer kenny. Drive and drink it yup. Yes we had. We had heineken. Drop off some zero point zero. Which i'm assuming is like zero alcohol. 'cause zero point zero and i'm thinking i need to be refreshed on my drive home. Why don't i just crack one of those open. I still a little alcohol in non zero points on this one. yeah nothing. Here's here's my thing. I'm not going to be driving around drinking. What looks like a an alcoholic beverage. Even though it's not because i don't want to be pulled over. For instance i'm working. Why can't i have it now. You can have it a stupid question. We do shots while drinking. I don't know but we're working zero point zero and you walked up to somebody's desk at the office. You saw him drinking this. When you are getting trash. I could just drink it as a. I don't know. I don't have the answer to that if you want to join. You know where we work. You can do whatever you want. We don't care if you're drinking when people judge me though. I if bobby hitmen walked by my desk and saw me drinking a beer now. Y- their partners of ours. He would do anything to support. What's scary just want to apply mere logic to the situation. The answer is yes. You can have an open container. You can drive with it. You can drink it because by definition you get in trouble and when you get drunk and the fact that there's no liquor in it at all not one bit of alcohol. We could pop one. Listen you may get pulled over because of the optics of it like. He's drinking a beer. Okay i can get in trouble. There will be no ticket. There's gotcha scotty be says. That's not true. Well i see conflicting reports online. There's a lawyer's office here that says under the law. An alcoholic beverage includes any beer spirit while beverage or wine it also includes non alcoholic beer but then there is a commercial on tv. Seen the commercial where the cop pulls the guy over convertible drinking a beer and he shows them the bottle and it's like oh never mind and he walks away. I'll it's a tv commercials. I don't know you should be using that legal basis for anything but maybe it state by state who knows to try on your way home and you know my point is why why even why even jinx it. Why do i if they see drinking. What looks like to be a beer. They're going to pull you over. D really need that in your life. Now look and go. Why do you wanna do you wanna spend their time writing things that are important. I think that's really a waste of our police officers. Exactly scary scary once again. Scary saying something that does not represent with the rest of us things stupid favorite. What's that froggy. exactly right. They can be doing other things. Yeah remember my beer cans story. I'm used to call that guy beer k. Remember i s. No remember the i can that i drank the whole entire thing when i was twenty one. I saved the beer can and put it in my glove compartment. I don't know why. And then i was accidentally going the wrong way down a street and the police over. I went in my glove compartment. The out my license and registration stuff the beer and fell out and i had to explain it to the guy. I'm like officer from party. I was at and i was twenty. One and i was excited. I kept the key and he said this is the most ridiculous story. There's no way you made this up. So he he knew i was overeating. Just go ahead. Be careful manual. Part of the story was you. Were driving the wrong way. You live in central park police. That's how embarrassing the whole world forces are laughing at. I guess the fastest way to get an answer to this is probably different. Depending on the the amount of percentage of alcohol even non alcoholic beer and also what state. You're in zooming. I don't know. I don't know what's scary. What are you going to say now is going to endorse. This makes zero sense zero zero sense that this person just calls a text in says that you have to be twenty one to buy and they still d you. There's no liquor in it. The hold on is is that true. Yes it's okay. Why what's the logic there. I wonder i can sort of see why they would. I don't know why it's cheap beer beer. Same thing to line too scary scary. Turn your mic off for just a minute to talk to my pillow. Mike how you doing good elvis. Our you good morning. We're fine and by the way none of us are attorneys. None of us are lawmakers. We don't know what we're talking about. We're just having a conversation. I just want that to be very clear. So whatever we say or whatever. Mike may say do not take it as law. It's just it's just what they think with. Ed said mike. Wh what did you want to enter this conversation. So i was a waiter or bartender for many years. It just got that industry not too long ago before the pandemic but Right before i got out of it. They actually came out with deficit. Beers is your point. Zero specific warn. They actually came in representative came in and claimed us on it and told us that you're supposed to be able to basically do anything with that. Now that's not to say that you won't get below over by they. They went as far as pregnant. Women can have it. Children can have it Stuff like that. And it's supposed to be the first real non alcoholic beer versus other warns that still have a point blah blah blah. Right you know alcohol content to it. Hey let me ask you this season brody is telling us in the room that they don't want kids getting used to the taste of it. It's like a gateway beer. I guess i don't know there's like a billion different ways to approach this. There's so many different perspectives again. Nothing we're saying or nothing that's on this show is fact we're not even we're telling you now we're we're not even trying to make sure it's factor not we're just letting you know this is what we're hearing. Is this all hearsay. But mike thank you. Why did you decide to leave The the bar business regret before the the pandemic and it was right at the beginning of the pandemic and everything slowed down Obviously businesses were shut down Sales even even before things shut down here in new jersey so wait a whole so the pandemic had just started. What you're saying right correct you february and march ish i. He's still have a lot of friends who are looking for work so many so yeah so many of our friends in the bar business in the restaurant business and we have many. I just i just feel awful. I feel in many businesses. Not just there but he might thank you for calling. And i hope oh you get back into it one day when it's a good place to be thank you and thank you for everything that you guys you guys keep me laughing every day and you keep everybody else laughing thank you. I don't think you have a nice day. No one's laughing right now for somebody this is. I don't know it was an interesting question. You know when you're doing a show a live show like an interesting question. Let's throw this out there and see what happens. Sometimes it really goes down a dark path because people are accusing us of all sorts of things online right now now stop it relax. I'll give you a list of other things. You should be upset about today. Okay this is laura. Let's go around the room. Hopefully you guys have something fun to say. If not something provocative and something that will make us think. We'll start with you frog. What's on your mind today. You know it's great to see that the apple does not far fall from the tree fall far from the trump. Yes whatever. I said i guess it's okay. No it's not okay So my son is this morning. His Iphone is coming his new iphone because he ordered one of the just the regular iphone twelve because he was doing upgrade was on his iphone. I think nine so he has. He was doing upgrade this morning. He is pacing by the door. He all over. He is waiting for the fedex guy to get here and drop off his phone exciting. I see i see a little bit myself. And him. And i just told him. I said ridiculous if you look at. He looked at me and he goes brealey this from. I'm like okay. Good point near my go ahead on day. It's whole day revolves around when his phone here. It's exciting was looking for reasons to celebrate celebrate celebrating. He's getting a new phone. I guess he's so excited today. Good for him old apple tree. We only have good delivery today. Hey what's up with you. I'm sure you have something being delivered today. Of course i do and every single day. But it's all christmas presents now so it's okay so oh my gosh not for one for me one for you. Shut up so i am obsessed the started. I don't have many years ago. But i don't know if you go into a cvs or like a store like that. They have those chocolate marshmallow like at halloween pumpkins. And it's like one and a foil wrapper on now. They have the chocolate marshmallow. Santa's oh my god and they put them right when you're online to pay and i'm like oh have one of these county eating santa clauses head off. I don't know the best things in the world does are great. I love those marginal. I always think of you and sheldon during mala mar season. Yes his favorite are. Dr kathy sent me some allah marzia. Today they're so good. Thank you don't speaking of you remember i that year. I brought back some easter chocolates from that incredible chocolate store in santa fe in the box. Where there i kid you not chocolate. Jesus is thinking. I just don't think i could eat that weird eating baby jesus. It wasn't a baby. Jesus was a full grown. Jesus and so it's a piece of chocolate but no it represents something a little bigger than that. So did you end up eating yours and the always eat chocolate. I feel the same way you feel about the goldfish crackers. Because they have a smiley little face. And then you're just sticking them in your mouth and destroying. I'm like why they smile though this horrible. It's so humid is these things are all right god you what's on your mind today. I want to say danielle. I love you so much but i think you're making my lizard hate me because i'm trying to keep up with tonka so talk. I just got an awesome little hoodie who he looks amazing in this little hoodie. By the way so i see these pictures of talk in a hoodie. And i'm like there's a little dull dress in the basement that i saw. I'm just to go take it and see if kush will at all deal with this. No there's not a chance in hell he scampers off turns out in his me and makes these faces and i'm sitting there with the dress like please come on. No so tonka is making me. I love you know a lot about animals. But i i just get this weird feeling putting a costume on a lizard is i don't think that they're built for that now. I was very careful. And i carefully put his body on. Its made for lizards. It's a lizard barry. What's on your mind today. Text messages can get lost in cyberspace wherever and never get delivered. Because when i was making the switch from the old iphone to the new one they were. Turn it on the five g service there was. I had a lot of trouble and there was about a twenty four hour. Delay right had nothing. And then i turn the phone on and not now up to three or four people now. That are telling me that they texted me. And they're showing me screenshots that we had that conversation going to me and said delivered never got delivered and true thinking that somewhere down the line about two years from now. All those texts can start rushing into my phone. But it's crazy. You can't get what happens to me all the time. There are text that don't go through and or don't come in and get somebody you didn't send me one and i'll have to go back and do a screen shot of their last tax there. It's true then. Well how'd you get deleted so it makes it look like good. You tell you exactly except deleting it. Hey straight nate. what's on your mind today. Is it awkward to pay your friends. I say this because li like our contractor. That's doing work on our houses names wayne. And he's like the nicest guy. I feel like he's becoming my friend so it's going to be awkward when i have to pay him money to do work. Believe me it'll be awkward when you don't pay. Yeah i don't know if. I should be friends with them or treat them like he's doing work on my can do both you can separate the two. Okay all right. Does he think that your friends or do you. Just think that your friends. I think friends with everybody. So i mean going. Let me ask you this. Do you have a good friend who you decide to agree to do. Business with and then. They say you're my friend. I'm not gonna charge you see. I can't do that. I don't care if we're best of friends or family members. I have to pay your pam now. So that i can be friendly. I think you're really overthinking. It's just me. I get it. Maybe it's just me So exciting that. We have the one and only legend of the world dolly parton. She's going to be on the show in like thirty minutes. And some people say that's seems like sort of a departure from the kind of interview you'd rather do know we interview interesting people. I don't care where they're from or what they do and she's so so loved. How can we go wrong. It's going to be ratings. Huge huge ratings massive. Can't wait to get it on. Let's get into the three things you need to know from gandhi gandhi. What's going on. What's the latest joe. Biden is asking for patience as votes. Continue to be counted to see who will be the next president. He took both michigan wisconsin yesterday and is currently leading in arizona and nevada at the same time. President trump's campaign is now filing lawsuits to stop the vote count in pennsylvania so republicans must be able to ensure that all counting is done above board and by the law. His campaign also called pennsylvania's secretary of state and unhinged member of the radical left the trump campaign also filing lawsuits over. The vote counts in michigan and wisconsin as well as covid nineteen infection rates continued to break records here in the us. The head of the cdc now says it's a good time to develop a strategy to detect ace symptomatic cases to help slow the spread the us recorded. It's five highest days of coronavirus cases in the past week and now the death toll has passed two hundred and thirty three thousand so we remind you keep following the cdc guidelines and finally. How cool is this new york. Man just completed an amazing milestone by voting in his twenty first presidential election. If you do the math on that that makes him very old old is is a one hundred and four years old. He lives in syracuse. He said his first vote ever was for franklin roosevelt. I don't know. I didn't yoga. Double check that. But he's not gonna say who voted for. He says he's too much of a gentleman to say anything bad about either candidate but he wants to. Jfk was his absolute favorite and reminds us that. There's no excuse not to vote. He's one hundred and four and he went out and did it. Three things probably still voting for jfk. Might all right. Thank you gonna take a break. Rebecca in the course of an hour. We just liberal morning the morning show. Hey danielle you know. Everybody has their own little quirks when it comes to feeling better well one of your photos should be the common cooling sent vicks vapor rub families trust vicks vapor rub including mine for that soothing relief. It's always there for you. Visit danielle is your immune system. Ready for colder weather. 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Oh and if you could bundle your renters and car insurance with geico it's easy to do online and we could save money and then when you read your murder mysteries at night. Could you read out loud but skip the murder parts. Because i get scared. Go for bundling made easy. Go to geico dot com today. Live from the mercedes g. interview lounge bring her into our and good morning dolly parton. Welcome to the show. You always learn healthy You got one of us anyway. Dolly won that. I need the most right. Now how are you are doing fine. I i want to tell you something. We're recording this after our regular show to run back tomorrow and usually if this time everyone has cleared out. And i'm here by myself but everyone stuck around knowing that you're going to be calling in a today a ghandi's here and danielle and froggy scary all of us. We love you dolly. Want to start off with the same room. S pretty good. It's actually your lucky day to. We've so much to talk to you out party absolutely so so so honored to have you here. Let's start with a holly jolly christmas that which it came out in october and This is i mean you. Do you have a love for for christmas. Music and holiday music more than other kinds of music is something about it. That just turned you on. That makes you wanna put at third album out. Well i think everybody loves christmas. And i have always been good too young to remember all back in my young years in my career. I always did. Chris movies at christmas special every every year for years and years and years and so it had been a while. Since i've had of course my one of my favorite things ever was. My album was kenny rogers and of course You know that one plays every year. But i just would planning to do a new one so i could just do some of my favorites. Maybe if you originalist writer. I think that they might be able to write from christmas classics and things that people other people record through the years so anyhow i just thought on it and says so is nothing much to do with kind of down. I thought well i'm gonna be productive. I'm not say and do nothing on it. I love it. And i love the collaboration. You have on your holiday. Christmas album with billy ray cyrus who is a good friend of ours in miley another dear friend of ours as yours as well in jimmy fallon love him willie nelson and also michael blair. Who by the way a little known fact unknown fact. I pulled his zipper down with my teeth. One time asking about that story. But anyway i'm going to talk to you today for a long time. We're doing zoom comes together. What did you do. I actually pulled his zipper down with my teeth. He actually next time he came to visit. He put a padlock on the zipper. So i couldn't get near it. Isn't that fun today. It's sad but true but when it comes to love the other night when you were on with steve colbert and you actually sang a song and it made him tear up and cry. Is there a christmas song dolly. That really brings you if not to tears close to tears when you hear it or seeing it. Well we know of all those beautiful songs when you a little town of bethlehem solid night. Where my favorite songs to sing though is go. Tell it on the mountain. it doesn't Who is not a sad song is more joyful. But i love the little town of bethlehem. 'cause i just picture that and the sweetness of that and the meaning of that so i would say that more than any but on my new album one that brought me to tears while i was saying it and has for since it came out a few years ago is mary. Did you know that song really pull that me. And i i was recording me and i was just you know i had tears and was emotional. Not think that kinda show in my voice to fit. Well i mean you've all people. Music has been a part of your life for god years and years and years and years. I i can't. Can you imagine a life without your music. I mean it is. It connects you to the real you and two other people. It's the universal language of love. And no one. Does it better than you danielle. Did you have a question for dolly. Yeah i would like. You're always such a positive person so happy and everything. How do you stay that way. Well you got work being happy. Just like to go to work with the miserable which i try to you know. I try to have a good attitude. I think i was born with happy. Heart tend to win. And i heard you know. I hurt all over when. I'm hurting. But i've tried to finally good and everything and everybody now i see something going wrong and if today starts out bad i think well now i can go through this day just catering to that or i just try to switch that around so i just try to do that. It's just all about having a good attitude. I think and i try to try to lift up people in and try to lift myself up when i did. That always helps me to feel like. I'm helping somebody else succeeding today. By the way past turning us on dolly parton here. We're talking about now. We're talking about her. Holly jolly christmas album. Which is available in a few moments. I want to talk about your netflix special. If you've got to get into that so much to talk about and also you know what i love. I love your imagination library in. Is there a way we could contribute to that and help out with that. Well absolutely all you gotta do is call the foundation You know Daughter would be the library dot com. And it's you know that comes out. Dollywood foundation is there. But yes you know. It's it's really something that i'm really proud of. And the way that we keep it going and people just making donations and and the community get involved a lot of businesses and banks in you know the community just making you know making sure that it stays on the speed and other concerts and of course donations and all that but we have given way as you probably know. Almost one hundred and fifty million books since we started twenty five years ago. He's all all over the world now in different parts of the world. So it's a it's a really good. So i'm found that thing i've ever been involved in. We'll tell you what we're going to go to your dollywood Foundation website dolly parton imagination. Library book gifting organization that sends over one million free books to children every single month. Dad overwhelmingly cooled talk about leaving a legacy. You're leaving so many different types of legacies and we're going to make a contribution for five thousand dollars today in just to keep it rolling. We want to help out. Hey froggy something to say to dolly. I can't be the only person ever thought this when i was a child. And you and kenny. Rogers had put on islands in the stream as a kid. For some reason. I found out that our executive producer nate thought the same thing. I grew up my whole entire childhood thinking. You and kenny rogers remarried. You weren't did anybody anybody else ever told you that. We often said that. Yeah married but not to each other. So i love him to death. He's like a brother may. We're just best pal. We're both more been crazy and had a credit sense of humor. We always had such a good time but he died. It was just like somebody. My family is very dear to me passed away but of course get always live on and holiday left behind especially in all the memories we made together. Wow he got something to say to dolly. I just wanna know if. I go to dollywood when it's backup running and everything is getting back to normal. Am i gonna see you there. Ever what are the odds. Because i really like that. Well what are the audio you get in there. Or you're saying why the of me being there odds of you being there. Because i'll make it over there at some point but i want you to be there to i. I'm i'm there several times a year. Definitely on there for the big opening like when we open inge brain and we. We have our vegetables nations on there for like a whole week pretty much like in march and april. And so. there's a good chance that i'll be there. It's been crazy year this year like it has been everywhere. We're still open. We're having a good autumn season. Good the christmas season. But we're doing our safe distancing and all that but we're we're still active but when lots of good again you come onto the hollywood. And now if i know you're coming i'll try to make it fun to be there i love you. Have you ever written under head the most incredible roller coaster at dollywood. I didn't know ride the rides. Everybody laughs at me. Because i don't yeah chicken in that respect but i'm also get a motion sickness not under plus. I wear wages all mccutcheon bra. I got too much to lose. Thought everybody thinks about right of must be scary. The kids get a kick out of it. But no i don't i don't get on the rides healthy sometimes. I'll fake of voter off your something. I'm riding it. But i'm not really for we. We leave you play some music here. There's also this netflix special. It's a holiday special holiday musical actually original. It's called dolly parton christmas on the square. It premiering november twenty second later this month. What what's it like. what are we. What are we going to see. In this special dolly. I'm so proud. This it's a full blown. Musical and debbie allen directs angkor grabs it. And i i wrote fourteen original new songs and so i'm really excited about it. Also star in it outplay. Play and angel but angel not assassinate one and it has wonderful people and Christine baranowski jenifer lewis. Treat waiter young. Who's and all kinds of wonderful stars that we've got in it but it's a story about saving the community and it's the perfect kind of story for this year right now with all the craziness going on so Hopefully it's it's going to be readmitted in fun for everybody so hopefully everybody will enjoy that. I think that deb us. I think it's november the twenty second. Thank yeah yeah sure. What's that 'cause. I know it's a lot of fun. I really. we had fun doing that. We got that done last last Summer before the. Kobe hit so we we were lucky. Enough to get the across and ready for this christian so that was fun and get into the holly jolly christmas albums. So i've had plenty to do getting out promoted the corden although some wonderful people and so thank you for letting us Promote all of this stuff on absolutely we love you dolly before we leave. Can you just give us give everyone a nice Like a mantra. Give us something like some words of advice from dolly to get us through the holidays and everything we're going through in this world block even though this world is crazy. We're not crazy. We know what to do. We just need to let the love lot in our heart shine. We need to find that live in one another and kinda of mingle that together and just have a holly jolly christmas but a joyful and peaceful new year. Hopefully i love it. Cuddle up of it's dolly with michael the way thank you dolly. Merry christmas to you. Thanks for coming on down. Wrap my sal. Do you ask damn cribs you lean winnie. The whole repetitive. yes to teramo. there's no gain an old man winter z. That that jones that what's to do taboo goes down and up against do things that were you gone. Cool whip sorry. Were place in my thoughts already gone. A does his car one. Chris he married business. Wow what an honor to have dolly parton on the show and of course old. What's his name there. S i love my he. You know he's he's a good friend of ours but he hasn't been on and so long he's had so much going on his life and i know now he's busy. As a matter of fact he was going to play radio. City music hall in new york for like i mean he almost like a residency plan. Their bracket sporadic residency. And i was actually supposed to go on stage with him one night to do something. I forgot what it was and of course cova kovic ruined it for everyone. Damn yuko van damme but talking to dolly parton. How amazing is she. She's amazing she's just so nice and so happy she is. She's full of wisdom and she just she looks ever seems like she just looks at every challenge in the world and just said something that kind of calms you down about her. Everything with positivity and she's been very outspoken about a lotta things and doesn't let anybody get in her way and i just love her she's awesome. What's scary. i feel like she has smiley resting face where she just smiles at everything she says that comes out of her mouth is just like high joyous and uplifting. She's awesome supporter her albums out the christmas album. Also her netflix special. On the way. And i you know. We're talking about her imagination library where she sends books to kids every single month and so many people are texting in saying that their kids get books from her every month. It's thirty i love her. Anyway daniil let's get into it. What do you have this hour. All right so shawn mendez and can a bail have gotten a dog together. A golden retriever. His name is tarzan means. That's the practice when you get together. Stop it stop pressuring them quote the all right blake shelton. He's marrying gwen stafani. And it's so cute. The way he proposed to her he did it old school. He actually asked her son's permission to propose. I thought oh my god you made me love him. Even more. he's thunk you. Ally mariah carey has decided it is the holiday season and you know mariah is really miss christmas. She totally is so hard song. All i want for christmas is you. It went up on all the streaming platforms are one hundred and sixty percent on november. First and second so people want their christmas music. Visit sad news. Amc theaters lose over nine. Hundred million. Due to covid nineteen ninety percent drop in revenue. They're expecting by the end of this year. Which is so insane. Also a lanka bullets up gwyneth paltrow. Her goop holiday gift. Guide is here. everybody. I know yeah. Does she teepee this year where it's five million dollars. No listen busier. Picks focused on meeting the needs of today less travel more snacks. More self care more booze. Some puzzles there's a board for almost two thousand dollars and a checkered set for two thousand dollars. We'll tell you if you've ever gone to goop the stuff that's non expensive there. There's a lot of stuff into this kind of creative minus her. Jj smelly handle. She has that she also has one. That's now smells like my pre-nup candle so you could get that as well if you'd like. Connie i actually got sixty thousand votes so yeah. People are still wondering whether his wife. Kim kardashian voted for him and she won't reveal her choice. Don't you think if she did she have said yes because say that probably didn't have. Let's see tonight on television. You've got the bachelorette you've got young sheldon. It's the season premiere of that and mom. The season premiere bat. Some packers and niners going at it and keeping up with dashiell and that's my daniel reports. Usually when we're running late you go on and on and on and then we're we're running early you just like okay. Here's a story by. I got more. Don't you worry about it seriously. He can ask you a question just between us and no one else has sex. Changed in the past. Eight months is six something a little different now. Of course asking for a friend awesome like way better because you don't see each other so then when you see each other it's like hello later probably part of it. Yeah right everyone else. Taking a sip of their cocktail not answering. So i'm looking. What do you mean. i don't know just asking for a friend moving off. I was reading something. Oh did you see that with. The guy was caught cheating. There was a guy who he his girlfriend. His woman discovered that her boyfriend of four years is cheating after noticing a clue in a photo. Oh i saw this yeah. He posted a clip on. Tiktok shows a selfie of him. It was a clip of him showing a selfie of him wearing sunglasses. And in the sunglasses you see the reflection of a girl's legs in the lenses. Oh yeah she called trae you yeah sunglasses. You can see everything. She called him out. He tried to deny it and then she found out he's actually been with five other women in the last month month cova. Doesn't he know that covid going on jackass have you. Have you ever been called out on something. Not mean nothing serious cheating by what they see in the background in your photos. I've seen other people get called out when they take selfies like sitting in traffic and they take a selfie and then you can see in the reflection. They're not sitting in traffic. There's nobody around them. Who was it that was he kept taking photos in front of private jets and then he get them south west and fly around. How are you talking about your coach right next to me her. That was awesome call. Sometimes we'll be. The dogs will be playing something. I can't leave your dog play with that. That's made in china. it's gonna kill him. I'm like no no. It's not bad cough. You post something because you want them to see something but they see something else always. Oh don't go off topic on my on my posts. Yes scary in there were few viral moments are on line where people were passing around ebay postings where people were photographing their furniture for sale but in the background they were booked naked when they took the picture yes that was something i wonder how many of those are staged i know. I wonder i wonder if this put my butt reflection in the mirror so funny. He so hilarious anyway. Hey people asking hongkou. Johnny's doing i'll tell you how joan uncle tony's doing local johnny's doing great. He's in day. Four of physical therapy. Today alex called him this morning at seven o'clock and he says i mean city. Hello lady sitting here for four hours waiting for physical therapy nursing said johnny. You've been there for less than an hour and she's gonna be here any minute now so we just have to keep him patient at the point where they just like. Could you guys. Please come and get him. No no no no. They love their. They love him and he loves them. They have a great relationship so but as you would be i would be sitting in a in a in a hospital. Get impatient but of course. He has a lot of of Recovery to go through. He cannot go home until let's say for him to go home you know. But he's moving fast. He's doing really well. He's in the advanced stages of moving forward is that makes tanker is great. Sign right because he's feeling better. He's back to his old cell. Yeah great we just have to remind him as we have to remind each other no matter what we're going to in life that there is an endgame to this. There is a light at the end of the tunnel. You have to be patient. This covert thing. Has everyone fatigued this board going crazy making bad decisions like yesterday when i saw. Can i talk about what i saw yesterday for. Sure so yes yeah. Pick my mom up from the airport. She went to florida. And of course i pick her up all the windows down in the car. I have my mascot. She has gone on my mom soon as home. You're gone. i even drove her car there by the way she wasn't getting in my car. So this woman comes out of the airport. Obviously just got off of an airplane. She has her mask on. She sees her family of four people. They came to pick her up. She rips the mask off and she runs over to them and embraces them. All and all i could think of this is where the problem lies. Why isn't that masks so on you you're supposed to quarantine for a couple of days at least when you get home and then take the test like and apparently where my mom was flying in from and i'm not gonna say the airline but they weren't enforcing it. The all they said was look online. And find out what you're supposed to do. Yes people are going to rely. It's important for individuals to be. Smart people are tired of being closed in. i can get. I'm tired of being closed in but until if everybody would just get on the same page for like one solid month we would see such a big difference as opposed to everyone trying to be such an individual assert their rights or whatever they think it is and not follow these guidelines. Yeah well that's why we have the freedom of real estate when you can when you when you could say from people who aren't living their lives the way you want them to live then to stay away i'm not gonna i'm not gonna go up to people start yelling at them because i just. Yeah what are you gonna do. We're going to get through this. This is the whole point of this conversation is. We're going to get through this. There is a world beyond you have to. You have to stop thinking you know. We live in this world where everything has to be immediate gratification. We're not going to get that right now right. Everyone needs to calm down. We're gonna get. We're going to have a great life ahead trust me. It's going to be good enough lies. Let's take a break. And i'm kidding. We'll be back after this elvis rain in the morning. Show guy out of your frigging face. Elvis duran in the morning show. I don't know they say one of the ways you can tell what you're doing is an addiction. Is that you do it to the point where it stands in the way of you getting on with your life in other ways from working keeps you from being on time for things. You're you call in sick for for events or meetings and things because you can't control yourself. You have to be doing that thing. Mine is weak. Pins you call off for weekend. We almost didn't. I'm swearing to you. I almost didn't make downstairs to the studio to do this break. Because i had to go back to have one more we thin. I was all the way down the stairs and i was. You're about to see me in the zoom room camera. I walked right back out up the stairs across the entire house to the kitchen pantry. Open the boxer weekend opening a took one out eight it and put it back and came hit and run back. I sometimes think is the after taste because when you initially put like one of whatever in your mouth you folks that's good and then you start to walk away and slowly tastes. Even better setting. Eat potato chip. Now who's ever eating a potato chip and that's it nobody. Nobody in history. I can't do it can't do. It isn't going to be a nice day here in rural new jersey. I have the windows open and the breeze flow into the room here. It's it's really really nice at. That's going to stay through the weekend to. It's going to go well into. It's going to be seventy two degrees. That means it's going to snow this finally tonight. Very scary is not one. Single weather forecast seventy three on sunday eighty. Did you call us baby off. Hey frog would you. You're and your your fingernail. What are you are you. what are you doing well. I just got finished eating some dove chocolate and peanut butter. It's like it's no chocolate and peanut butter and that's the same way. So i there's like a bowl of them because that's what lisa does. She has bowls of candy center on the house. So i grabbed one. And i walked away and says i'm walking back here to the room opening and i eat it and eat the first one like i gotta have another. I've ran back to the bowl to crab another one to bring back in here. And i'm the same way i can't just eat one and i tell myself i'm going to have one. But then one turns into twelve true it tastes good and then it goes down. It's gone you're like well. I want that taste again. I want to exit putter around. Yeah i the other day. I had a rhesus white chocolate ghost. Did you give rhesus. It's rhesus is a white chocolate ghost peanut. And you had one of those Oh no so excluding caramel one to like a caramel and chocolate. One okay. So it all started with wheat thins. Okay sorry about that. I love him. I love him. And you you hear the name thin so you think oh. It must be a diet. Food has thin no not at all. Hey we were talking earlier during the song about thanksgiving in your plans with family or not. You know people who kind of weird it up during the big family thing and i get that i get that and it's to the point now where i'm a order catered for one and just sit here by myself and he thanksgiving same yeah. We decided yesterday so my family gets together as often as we can for the big holidays and we decided yesterday my sister and i are not gonna do it because i mean i don't wanna give it to anybody however giving it to my family seems like the absolute worst thing in the world that i could do so. I'm just trying to do. My part and that means thanksgiving is going to be alone or with my sissy. Well we'll see it's the two of you that's not bad we more than ever need the holidays and family. We need more than ever. It's interesting that we we have to be careful. There's got to be waste smart ways to do it. You've got be you gotta have a smart way to do it. And everyone has to buy get it. I told you my aunt wants to zoom thanksgiving. You the computer on the table and everyone eats while you see each other so it's as if you've got the worst idea it's so uncomfortable and you gotta like okay. I'm going to other gravy so eating on cameras the worst and then you hear all their spit noises and swallowing. We'll no we assume Get together the other night for cocktails france and i was sitting there thinking. I wish it would end. Is i want this to stop. Because i love him so much. I want to be with them. And it's like whatever. Anyway i just We need happiness. We need some fun and we're going to find ways to get it scary every year. I buy that crazy turkey to be parents house. Well my father gets on the phone and goes a tuna. I don't know about this year like other years. This is not look all the rest. Don't by that bird. We may not be having thanksgiving talk to your mother. We may cancel so go. Get the turkey. I said turkey if he if he can all sit down and eat it. You can put in bags and send it out to other people. Just junaid the smell of turkey when you turn on tv to watch the macy's parade. Oh sorry that's cancelled has the parade. Yeah but it's different. It's virtually not. Yeah it's all they're gonna have some live stop know audience. It's going to be a totally different experience. Okay we're gonna get through this done deal. Oh danielle you have it on your report have you. I don't know. I think i did really. Okay alright gary gary might need to go to commercial and come back to garrett. We're very late elvis. We talked about this. Go thanks for having to take a break you mariah carey. What's up. this is pink. And you're listening to elvis duran duran and the morning show joy in the morning show. It felt good to talk to dolly parton today. She's unbelievable so nice. You should do anything and everything to get her on your show too seriously If you wanna hear it if you missed it you can go to. Elvis duran show on instagram. Or elvis. Duran dot com. And you can hear it there so fantastic. I wish we would have done the zoom room with her but she says she didn't want to do zoom room because it takes a long wig on. I don't blame. I don't blame her. either either. This keeper comfy garrett has sound live from the kitchen we all right. Let's start with this video. I saw a little girl. Hang out with grandpa sitting on his lap and then got a little awkward voice. Talk was on. let's see you do twirl. Move on quickly all right froggy. I'm gonna put you in a position right now. It's going to get awkward. who do you love more. Your florida gators. Or luke bryan. You must choose one. Your mom's not on. I'm going to go the florida gators. Okay now this is going to get weird. Because luke bryan. Has tim tvos heisman trophy in his house this week because he wanted from a charity auction. So he's putting a curse on the on the heisman trophy. Because his college football team the bulldogs playing the florida. Gators this weekend. So he's trying to put a curse. I make sure his team wins. And this is what luke bryan had to say. Look here and i've got a fun week in store for you because georgia plays florida saturday but the best part about this week is last year. The redbird games my wife bid and one. Tim tvos heisman to be in our home for six months. Tim somehow delivered it last week the week before. The georgia florida game. I feel it was an effort to bring bad mojo into my house. Holtz ladies and gentlemen just to let you know. There's tim's heisman just proved you guys. He made good on his promise. But i've got this all week to put a curse on the florida gators. Yeah and he put a big georgia bulldogs sweat shirt over top of tim tebow signs he such a nice guy. He can't put a curse on anything. All right let's go to jimmy kimmel. Last night. he brought back but this one with political figures we all know. Pretty santa's seem like the type of guy who would return a single piece of fruit to walmart and hold up the line for an hour. If templeton the rat from charlotte's web had a successful rat cousin he hated for being an anxious slime ball. It would be ted cruz. Nancy pelosi probably has the same five napkins in her purse for the last twenty five years but that comes from pool ragging how many napkins you have john kerry's head were to be carved on a mountain it would be actual size boy deer al franken. You weren't funny van and you're not funny now in fact you're not good enough. You're not smart enough and gosh darn it. No one likes character and then So popular is las. Vegas is in what state nevada are right. Well the state had to put out properly. Say the state because it's in the news obviously right now and this is what it put out on. Twitter nevada nevada. No vata is the proper way to say the state. Nevada nevada is the proper way to say nevada something. It was a slow news day. That's okay you live you learn. Thank you your good american garrett year to have a beautiful day into the three things we need to know. It's always changing. That's ghandi's here. what's going on gandhi. Not a ton of updates. Joe biden is still within striking distance of winning the presidency. He did win michigan and wisconsin yesterday if he takes arizona. That's going to push his electoral vote. Count two to sixty four. Just six short of the two seventy needed. He had a slim lead in nevada as counting continued yesterday evening but election officials. There say please don't expect anything as far as results until at least later this evening. In the meantime president trump's campaign is filing lawsuits to stop the vote count in pennsylvania. A statement from the campaign says the vote count must stop until there is meaningful transparency and that republicans must be able to ensure that all counting is done above board and by the law. The statement went on to call pennsylvania's secretary of state unhinged at a member of the radical left. the trump campaign is also filing suits over. Those vote counts in michigan and wisconsin as well coronavirus infection rates. Continue to smash records here. In the united states with over one hundred thousand new cases reported just yesterday and that is according to data released by the covid tracking project so eighteen states saw record hospitalizations over eleven hundred deaths were recorded that pushes the total past two hundred and thirty three thousand since the pandemic began medical experts. Say that cova. Fatigue is part of the reason because people have just gotten more relaxed about distancing wearing face masks and washing their hands. So don't stop. Keep following those cdc guidelines and finally we talked about this earlier froggies excited because the newest version of the iphone. Twelve go on sale tomorrow preorders for the new iphone. Twelve pro max open at eight. Am eastern time and the phone will be available in stores on november thirteenth. So i have a feeling tomorrow around eight. We're not going to hear from froggy for now just three things. Thank you to your phone tap next from the mercedes. Amg interview lounge saric shawn mendez. Lay quarantined and doing all of these things and discovering the laundry and whatnot. What have you figured out your least favourite household chore washing the dishes after like italian. Dinner night you're suffer from lead foot goosebumps for no reason stop living with uninspired performance visit mba usaa dot com slash amg and find out if mercedes amg coupe sedan or suv is right for you mercedes. Amg driving performance elvis duran and the morning show before you get your gaming on help. Keep those items. You've bought like weapons and skins safe. Get norton three sixty for gamers device security and more without the notifications save twenty percent on first year by using promo code elvis at norton dot com slash. Gamers ran elvis. Duran phone tap love. Good daniel phone tap hoping this is one of. I hope sue daniel. What's it all about kim. As being phone tap by her sister kelly. I am the caterer her dad's having a birthday party. And its tonight and of course i'm coming sound very well. Hello looking for cable kelly. Please yup this is she. This is kim kim. This is a bad data. You folks there. I'll catering how are you. I'm doing okay are you. okay good. No no i have allergies. I've just allergies up. I just wanted to confirm the address for the party tonight. Yeah i'm going to do the cleanup. It helps serve and everything they give me an address where they booked so. I just wanted to make sure that i had the right address. Okay ensure you're not there. No no no. I have allergies just allergies deal. My father cannot get sick. And we're having the birthday lab it but that's sick. It's just allergy. So he'll be tied right. Okay and awful. I'm sorry i don't. I'm sure they're just allergies. But i can't have you coughing on my dad fight. It's fine i. I will gloves able breathe on anybody. If that's what you want. Really good like would they cut through the door. I've always like hi. How are you welcome to the party. You can't even get through certain. I'm not gonna let you'll live thousands but you don't know what i'm allergic. Nobody my god you sound like you're titus or something to tease. You serve eighteen the party. 'cause i make sure i don't touch the cheese. You're allergic achieving your caterer by wear gloves. That'd be alright. Are you joking hearing now. You know what. I can't deal with this. I'm so busy. I have to hire a new caterer now so you have to do catering. I don't understand i don't i will go through. Your dad is going to give up a lap dance for his birthday or anything. You're not working for us tonight. Alright year leko idea the buddy. You can't do that in my lifetime for this. I could have booked at other party. And i did. I put my tie beside. You can't die again home. God psycho please leave me a liable plea that your father. I robin late in my family alone. I have a very important day that i'm planning not take takeoff like here. Not call me again. do you understand me. Just just give me the address that i like to call you address. I'll call the catering company get it myself. Not happy stressed today She's really says. I here's what you're gonna do. You're gonna just call her and then hopefully she'll tell you what just went down okay. So i'll just listening in now. This is all you okay and kill. Hello oh my god my life and if you want me to pick anything up yeah i want you to pick up a caterer the catering hall and she was coughing like disgusting of god. You wouldn't believe this woman. Oh my god she coming god no. I fired her. No we need a new caterer. Or why did you fire decatur. At least why didn't get her boss and get some help call. Why don't you get off your ass and make the phone call yourself. I'm sick of dealing with it on. I a car asking for what you need. I'm not even talking to you. Call elvis duran. He might be available to cater the party. Venero elvis duran in the morning show. You got star. No michael yearbook me on tape with permission granted by a female durant durant in the morning show. What day You know what you have time for one headline daniel. What would that be all right. We're all loving at two right now. And it is the second most watched subscription video on demand for movie of the year. So if you haven't seen it you should. 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Ryan Dawson

Part of the Problem

1:37:28 hr | 1 year ago

Ryan Dawson

"We need to roll back. The state we spy on all of our own citizens our prisons are flooded with non violent drug offenders. If you WANNA WANNA know who. America's next enemy is look at who were funding out of these problems. Are the government way too. What's up everybody what's Happy Almost thanksgiving. Welcome to brand new episode of part of the problem. You might be listening to this on Thanksgiving or after Thanksgiving in which case. I hope you had a good thanksgiving. I have a great show show for US tonight. my guest is somebody who has been requested by a lot of our listeners. Some very excited to have him in Super Smart Guy Super Interesting Guy who does a ton of research and has a ton of information In his brain that he's GonNa share with our audience. It is of course Ryan Dawson. How are you sir? Howdy good intro? They're like that. Everything was said reminds me for this cheap plug. This booker called the separation of businesses state. Everything all our problems sir. Too much government. That's basically what goes over while I'd certainly you're certainly preaching to the choir on that one and of course you have a show that you've had for a long time it's the the What is it the Anti neo-con report? Yeah the Anti Neo counterpart some people just say. ANC for short very good. It doesn't get confused with African National in Congress too often well anti anti neo-con report separation of state both both sound pretty damn good to me because really. Isn't that that pretty much sums up all our problems right. That's pretty much. What's responsible for everything? Evil the the merger of business in the state. And the Goddamn neo cons. Yeah I say it's The the state's Gaza reverse MIDAS touch. And then I say a lot of things about new cons. I don't know what I'll allowed to say on this or not. None of. It's good that way. You can say whatever you want to about about the neo cons. I mean they. I mean I'm wearing this today Israel. I'm with you on that one as well absolutely Louis. I'm all end-all eaten anyone really but yeah well I aid gets us is out times as a weapon. And sometimes as boone like with Israel is basically guaranteed teed loans innocent apartheid state where they shoot children the balls and annexed land and Bolas houses but other times aid isn't really given its loan as a as predatory John's to drive nations into inflated and currencies. And so you know anyway but absolutely I get rid of the no well absolutely but there is something particular. Take your about the aid to Israel which is not just that they're the the largest receiver of American foreign aid but there's also something particularly a distinct about the US US Israel relationship Where you learn interesting statistic in In the second. DVD OF Is called peace propaganda the promised Aslan Numb Chomsky who I disagree with a lot of times but you know he is not completely bad he was going over some stats and these might be dated. But Israel Israel receives more foreign aid than the entire continent of Africa. Seven Times more aid. Now that's shocking because Egypt for the longest time got the second highest married which is part of Africa so Egypt plus all those other states time to seven is still less than what was given away to the Israelis who do nothing but lie to a steal from US take text from us and now and then attack us. Yeah and even just to add on top of that. The aid that we give to Egypt is basically aid to Israel to cause the whole deal is. You're a friendly government to through Israel so and and for a long time. It was the new bar. Please look away on yes. That's right and and it seems like a I mean we already had a little experiment just a few years ago in democracy in Egypt it seems like if they had their pick they were not going to elect people who were big fans of Israel so that is almost you can almost count that as even as as soon as the Suez Canal was reopened in that in that brief window of interim government that Suddenly all of Europe needed invade Libya. So they those boats sailing Elliot Oil East. Yeah that's right. Yeah and of course this is. This is really the stuff that everything that that you know the kind of populist politics that I'm sure both of us don't love you know whether it's the kind of populist the official line with Egypt singer just angry at an Internet video about whatever Oh yes well that was yes that was hillary snow excuse but I'm talking about in the Western world like the populace left the populace right the kind of Donald Trump. Steve Bannon is all these movements in many ways. You can search results will. That's right and but this all of these things rising up in so many ways is a result of the George W Bush Obama foreign policy. I mean this is Lou and of course the the financial crash of two thousand eight the you have the the terrible economy may you have these wars that destabilize regions and then the subsequent migrant You know those are all related because the The trillion dollar expenditures on these I call imperial imperial escapades Mostly on behalf of foreign interests by the way because of huge pressure groups and lobbies but those wars like in Iraq for example just sunk trillions trillions of dollars the reason that the Federal Reserve made interest rates. So low was to finance these wars while the result was You know bled into the housing market and talk about that forever but You know they put people on teaser. Eighth and raise the rates seventeen times and then of course rating agencies were bribed which is total illegals not a result of lack regulation was fraud which is already illegal but nobody is prosecuted moral hazard. So yeah I mean the state just the wars. I and also the high cost universities because universities as structured investment vehicles into defense industries that go through hedge funds and you can learn this by going through the divestment movement and see specifically typically who they're investing and but the reason state has guaranteed student loans isn't because they want college to be available for all or affordable for all. They made it unaffordable Corozzo. They do. They gave guaranteed student loan. So that anybody can go at a really high rate which colleges has raised the rates right because the tuition money is reinvested arrested in through Defense Company Hedge Funds for the wars so ending the war. Is I actually help you reduce the cost of your schooling. Wow Wow I. I didn't know that that's news to me. That's that's really fascinating but it is amazing. How all of these things are so connected? And it's really all it's like even if you're like some Left Wing Guy. I who really really hates Donald Trump. You GotTa understand that what this is. All about is the monetary system which is all designed so that we can be the world empire. Because there's no other way to do it if you didn't have this Fiat money system if they weren't able to as you were saying artificially lower interest rates. There's no way we could have fought. These wars on the credit card and America was never going to put up with being taxed those trillions of dollars to fight the war in Iraq. I mean that. That's what American came right. Wouldn't have separated investment banks from lending institutions and there wouldn't have been so many subprime loans. Yeah you know it takes maybe six minutes to explain it. You know that it would just never done on mass media. No it is too big fail in. Let's all repeat the line. We were told from her boss and now and it still hasn't Israeli be fleshed out at the kind of Anti War Laughed which I think was more of an anti Bush thing that the line that some of the genuinely like you you know for moral reasons Worries all they lied about. WMD's and his all about oil or something it wasn't about oil our oil imports from Iraq. Don't change from before and after after the war they it's much deeper than that. They wanted to create sectarian violence between different religious groups and ethnic groups in Iraq on purpose purpose and he stabilize it. And we know this because it's written about in Israeli policy papers before the war begins right right and also all these lies about. WMD's come from click of neo uh-huh cons who are all Israeli partisans right and I mean we've got Dick Cheney on tape You know from the first Persian Gulf War war telling him exactly right telling you exactly what would happen if Saddam was toppled. I mean it's not as if like nobody can claim. This was a surprise. They he actually. I mean to give Dick Cheney some credit which I rarely do it called it perfectly. He told you exactly what was going to happen so they these guys knew what they were doing. The idea that this was Jim Baker knew the kind of I just call them. The less this dom does I'm not gonNA say any of them or smart but You know compared to the Rumsfeld's in Douglas Feith's Jim Baker and chain. You're certified genius. I like Lakewood close Lawrence Wilkerson as he has some of the best burns TV Stafford Colin Powell. He was talking about Douglas. Feith if you don't know Douglas Douglas Vice. who was sort of the face of the offices special plans but it was really run by Richard Perle but he said About five he said seldom in my life have met dumber. May with all this great as it. True muppet well. What is it so oh you you one of the things? That's interesting about the work that you do Is that you've been very willing to go and talk to people on the on the alt-right alt-right kind of jump into those conversations as you told me when we were messaging before you go. You're also very happy to talk to people on the far left but they're Not to have a conversation. Yeah Yeah I'll just WANNA scream their fingers in their ear like I will say about the outright at least they want to have the dialogue because they really think they're right and they're ready to talk to somebody with the left They just want to preach at you and no return no no counterargument. So yeah yeah it's really It's just it's infuriating to even even when the rare chance that you do get to talk to some of them they're just it's just like basically you either i. It's it's purely religious legis it's like you either agree with me or you have committed blasphemy. And then you are. I mean instead of working. For the devil you're racist or sexist or Nazi or whatever. Their time Hitler is replaced the Devil as to me of evil. Yeah I think I don't have any of this but if you're walk around with a sign outside saying something negative about God or praised the devil or something and you had another one that said like I won't say because this will kick f f the J. or something you know right Nazi you'd definitely GonNa present. You would get killed. Probably I think that's more taboo than the religious stuff that has no religion today. No you're you're absolutely right and I think to me from like the Libertarian perspective. Would it really kind of plays into is that they're to me. The like state ISM is is kind of the religion the idea that like the government has kind of replaced God and World War Two is has become the great like origin myth of the modern modern. US Empire and so in order to justify that everything has to be around. Will you couldn't possibly oppose World War Two. It's also the biggest and the deadliest war ever so you really need some mythology or saw a switch. He saw a switch around. It wasn't really until the seventies where initially the war was blamed on Hitler's militarism But then later it's not Hitler's militarism. It's everyone else's isolation that allowed him to do that as your blamed on not going to the war for the war right not treat or sign world war one or any of the real like nuance causes. It's all it's gotTa be you know some second second-grade answer right right and that's no everything it's it's really. It's like some weird Orwellian like up his down type thing but even if you look at World War One with there's really no justification that holds the test of time that we should have been involved in World War One. Why would America need to go figure out what monarch monarch are GonNa win the for some European conflict but what? The kind of great is a great name. I love it's got. It's like a soldier like going like this. I'm scratching my head if you can't see the video or you're listening and It says so. In their American soldiers like so Russian Russian Allied Serbians assassinated Australian. So that Americans can be in France fighting the Germans right. Yeah I mean it's win if you actually just lay out the store. It's so absurd you think no but the takeaway the kind of Henry Kissinger and this is what Henry Kissinger wrote about in his book is the takeaway is well. Look the problem is we left. The problem is that after World War. One we didn't stay we didn't have a NATO right away. We didn't take care of all the countries we didn't have massive aid eight programs. That's the problem and not the treaty of Versailles. That's not the issue the issue is that we weren't more involved in this treaty so everything is right enough land land. Yeah and yet the conventions to say not to annex land. Because Dan Zeke and all that would you did lead World War Two and I know or that and yet there's one country that continues to do it and they get more aid from the United States than anyone else. Yeah No. That's that's absolutely right it. It tends to be that when you annexed Lan. Dan Destroy Private property in houses. Shoot people that pisses them off and they react to it and and it's really it's such a shame to me it. Just it breaks my heart that Now what is it. It's bad to be two thousand twenty. So would we almost thirteen years or twelve years and change after that. Ron Paul Giuliani moment. The arguments arguments still hasn't people still haven't been convinced of this which should be such an easy simple argument for any human being to grasp. I mean the argument the controversial controversial argument that Ron Paul made to Giuliani was literally an essence. When you slaughter people's families they tend to hate you like that's actually the argument? It's common sense. Yes as comments you can but it seems still that You know it's like the idea that it's radical Islam or something like that and my response to that is always like even of course element of Islam. We'll right and even if they are radical jihadists. Then you really better not kill their families. I mean like it's proven we've had Actually the radical Islam is not even just a reaction to overthrowing Iraq. And all that I mean that is part of it. But actually the the real origins of these lobbying addresses started in nineteen seventy six when George Bush senior is the head of the DC. I they create click. Call this fiery club. Initially it was go round with Africa but during the Cold War they needed. Proxy forces domestic the Soviets. And you know what happened. Afghanistan residing etcetera they're laundering money through BCCI and setting op extremist Well Hobby schools all over the Middle East. And all the way up into what was Yugoslavia. Now it's a different nations about Aw to raise generations of these people that they could use his cannon far as so Zionism lobbyism all these like extremists Versions of faiths aren't just just reacting to To to invade his. What are they were fostered by intelligence agencies season an enormous amount of wealth to push people those directions because they wanted to have conflict because that feeds the mice e right? That's right. Yeah it's really just just it's like a biblical level of evil For what the the amount of just like disaster that they've brought onto the world is human tragedy after human tragedy. Yeah and I guess the the silver lining of it is that it does seem more and more today that there's just more more of its being exposed. I think even though the the correct ideology which from my perspective would be like libertarianism and free markets is hasn't really been inserted into the conversation but there certainly has less Trust in institutions in the corporate media in the whole war machine like I think I think most Americans or at least way more Americans today kind of see through the bullshit. I think it was in the conversation. Wouldn't Ron Paul was running basically and the two times the well the last two times Iran. Maybe when he ran was russell beans in the eighties was conversation but I would never hear people talk about the Federal Reserve for example or something but when the Ron Paul Movement hit things that I've been trying to say forever that we're not catching on the people were coming in and saying it's me I the Gino of central banks and data so it started to get in that conversation and then we had a Gary Johnson now now basically a democrat. Comes off libertarian. But I'm excited now because Jacob Hornberger down in the race and I think that conversation could come up again and there's not not a better time than now Even more than Ron Paul was running because win Ron Paul Ran. The Internet was still a little bit of a baby. We didn't have all these social media recites although we're losing on we're getting sense but And it's just gotten worse since the housing crisis a he predicted happened. You you know. I don't think anybody was hated. More than Hillary and trump. And then you look at what they have now. Maybe Tulsi probably won't win the primary and the rest of them which goofballs calls and then Donald Trump so. Yeah I think people will vote for. I don't know who were you name. Your name's Jacob by you got no absolutely Lulu and then at least that that protest vote if the guys actually sang some really good things like Jacob Hornberger Wilby I mean. Hey that's at least shot you know is is to go with something like that. All right guys. Let's take a quick second and thank our sponsor for today's show a brand new sponsor which were very happy to have on board. It is flag and anthem. Flag and anthem is a premium quality. Men's this brand started by two guys who worked in the industry long enough to realize something was missing where two regular guys go to get closed. That are not super trendy or extremely dreamily fitted and tight or too expensive or too cheap. 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OTP Twenty for twenty twenty percents off your first order all right. Let's get back on the show. What do you now I wanted to get into? We're just to spread the philosophy you know. Even if he doesn't win it it shifts the window so as to speak you know there was a generation of people that are now also. I hate this word woke on the Federal Reserve and a little bit some of them. over-simplified is go around screaming meaning Rothschild and stuff but at least they know about it. You know which is better than how it was. Yeah no I'll take the over simplification. Even that I mean I'll tell you if at least if you get the I dea that there are these central bankers who are manipulating the economy. And they're screwing you over. That's that's the the the basics of it. That's good enough for me but as you said you know it's like okay. We have this Internet thing and I know this is something that we wanted to talk about. Because you're going through a lot of this right now so we have this Internet thing and and the people who are in charge. They realized that I mean the these. People aren't stupid They've been ruling over the humanity for for a while and so it was almost especially in hindsight. But it's almost obvious that of course they were going to try to go after this and try to shut down dissonant voices. I mean they've had a stranglehold on the conversation for you know well well over the last century but really over the last century. They've had that and they weren't just going to say oh too bad. I guess everybody Heidi now can compete with the corporate press. And there's no more gatekeepers well have at it. Hopefully the best ideas rise up now. My prediction of this was always that the government would just regulate the Internet Internet. And that's how they would shut down these dissident voices. I have been a little bit surprised in The way that it's manifested which has been this kind of like a D platforming by I tech companies And you Sir I think have been like a a real victim of this one from For a long time I am like I got. I'm one of the earliest. Y Two thousand five. I was kicked off a AOL before before face. book was my space before that was. AOL Your Hyon Ear. You're like a pioneer in on being de platforms. What honored to have so I I didn't have any foreknowledge or anything but it predicted the the seven seven bombings in the UK But as speculative thing and like all my stuff got shut down. AOL was shut down my my space which put all his effort into making was kicked off my space and then I was kicked off that again when I made a new one and It was in the middle of me move into Japan as weights. I got over the Asian everything and that is what what got me. Excuse me got me on my first radio shows and stuff is people who saw what I was saying before right before I got annihilated and so it got me on shows and whatnot and then from there Youtube starts in two thousand six got deleted in two thousand eight Although I never broke their terms because they had two names they kinda. I didn't like the first one so I hardly ever used it. I started a second one that one got a booted so I just went back. The old one never created a new one though because it already existed said breaking rules and they're not I got recently this year. I've been thrown off youtube twice last year once And last July Ed. Well what they did is they gave me three strikes. I did a an appeal and I got one of them. You know removed but I couldn't really make any new videos or show videos because one more strike and I'd lose thirteen years of work so I actually flew to Ireland to Google headquarters. Does it matter Texas where I am. It's same distance really so never been to Ireland and went there. Talk to the Buckman at Google and I got all my strikes removed and I'm channel in good standing and all that they're not gonNa give me ads or anything. So I thought our finely things are going well and of course I've been I was banned on Everything else vim vim Yo ban me and took five thousand dollars worth of my sales. I make a political movies and they just they decided to ban me wouldn't even give me a reason why I I got My father's arrest him or whatever or politely wrote Letters. I don't know probably did a boat so much that they finally said Yeah. Well you didn't actually break any of these terms and they listed them all but they didn't like my criticism of Israel the comey they called me Anti Semitic I said I'm not talking the amount of ethnic group. I'm not talking about race and our country you know if I criticize North Korea In like this is it this but that's It doesn't doesn't matter to them. They just didn't like what I'm saying but I really pissed. They took all the money. I I've just made now's a good Christmas and the kids and the walkway five grand and I had no way eighty Selma films anymore and go find another platform go through that whole headache and then most recently. I've been kicked off pay for the second time. First Time was in two thousand fourteen because they thought I was aiding Syrian rebels. Or something I wasn't I got it back on Almira. Yeah wasn't there. There's a friend of mine in who who's She lives in Australia but her. Like nickname is Syrian girl. Or whatever so I had a button just said Dacca's more people knew her by her nickname than her real name. Aimar Sicily and they're like. Oh you give money to Syria Magnum giving money to a Australian. That has a Syrian all. It was not not going to moderate rebels levels which is basically al Qaeda never to that so I got my pay pal back but they Got Rid of all my reoccurring payments essentially stay Starting over and then a few weeks ago lost pay pal and add since on the same day and I see these people on Twitter celebrating and saying his Patriot is going to be next in Alabama. It was just like what did I do to you. I don't even know you And they're like This guy I'll say his name but he was just saying all this. It's Liable about me on twitter flag. Nothing happens you know and he accused me insane like Judas did nine eleven and all this crazy stuff I have a filmed on nine eleven. And then say anything like that at all That's like blaming the Iraq war on the Jews right. She's because a lot of neo cons avenue Jewish. I wasn't uh-huh like that but we live in a day and age nuances dead right. And it's like I call pay pal and I say I've been with you for fifteen years. You're accusing me of advocating gating vile as a dumb never done nabet antiwar website and They're like well. It's support over here. May decision in its reversible. I go oh what am I being banned for like. What's the example? Like what did I say where of this other website or youtube video like. What's what's being held against me? Let's secret the same secret evidence and your judge and jury and you're just GonNa kick me off. I had no means to get donations or sell films or memberships or anything Without pay PAL and Because the cause of government regulations the Japanese payment processors only work. Here you know pay as one of the only only a global ones and as it's disgusting because I see the most disgusting people have no problem with entities platforms who actually advocate advocate violence. You know the mainstream media advocates violence like every war we've ever had. Please tell me a three letter network. That was like you know. I don't think that's true. May just came came out write about the faults or probably non existent gas attack in Syria. That was a pretext for launching cruise missiles. Right you said it correctly I said it correctly. Justin Mondo Scott. Horton other. They they all had it right. There's a there's no gas attack no motive. No physical evidence than just now coming around is too late for the people died and even though they blocked most of the missiles they still had to spend tens of millions of dollars to do that. You know and it hurt him anyway. And it's all they ever do is lie and advocate violence and they're considered the authoritative source. CNN's and stuff. I mean Wolf. Blitzer is a former employee of APEC. Who you know routinely spies on the United States like does actual damage to our country? That's okay you know. The eighty ellesmere caught Rating in police files and things like that like they're damaging our country all these groups of they get a massive financing dancing Total push all the platforms because slander people that can liable people and there are no consequences and there are other people who've also I've been censored who you know. I really couldn't agree with their views on anything but I don't WanNa be the guy to deciding whose views can be said. Isn't you know free. Speech is free speech. If you're not advocating violence then you should be able to say whatever you want and it seems like it's it's it seems like there's this trend trend. Where guys like you? Who are going? You know I I've seen you on a couple different like you to Videos where you're going and talking of these alt-right guys and actually telling them you're like yeah. This ethnos state stuff is crazy like you. Don't WanNa be racist. You should never bring violence against any minority group and guys like you end up getting band around the Ethnos staters will get put on. CNN or they get thrown right into the forefront of things and it's like this it's almost their household sold names. They create the this this kind of like world where they don't want the reasonable opposition. They want the guys like that so and they pretend that they're so scared of this like like the thing I've been saying for for a long time now is if you're saying you're so scared of some antisemitic movement movement rising up. Well then you better allow people to criticize the governmental policy of Israel or the United States for that matter. If you're going to say nobody's what he's allowed to criticize these. These influential Jews. Then yeah okay. What you're going to deal with is not gonNA be Ryan Dawson? You're going to deal with someone who's like. Yeah well then fuck all of them. Then you know what I mean. And that's where it scarier. Yeah this the opposition they want. I think they're desperate for another. Tim McVeigh or you know a shooting or whatever ever because he gives them more budgetary power more than the Rosia civil liberties etc.. These people are really sick. You're talking about people that laughed about sanctions that murdered murdered hundreds of thousands of kids. And they don't care they're they're they're not really worried about like some idiot that runs runs around with a torch or something and they're insignificant. They just blow up these enemies. That aren't really there. But they really hate critics like us. I don't have was shaved head and tattoos and saying racist bullshit. It's they that's what they need that's what they want. I can hit Israel hardware hurts this based on the facts. I mean they have sniper pursuit kids in the knees and the bulldozing homes in annexed land like most people one stay. No that that's happening. Don't want to give it a monied. Israel don't don't support that at all. Most Israelis aren't going to support that either thing is they don't know that they're the they get from. TV is Hamas firing thousands of rockets every three day at a child holding a puppy mother's Day or whatever it it's and it's not sense the lies kind of like fade away. It's a lot of times. What what guys like me and you are? Battling battling against is the short attention span because the lies after like even you pointed to with the Assad gas attack. It's like okay so this wikileaks release. Now we've got more evidence that this was fabricated from the beginning but it doesn't even really matter. It's not like you claim any victory because they've already moved onto. We got to protect the Kurds. And there's like this new you like to be involved in this. Yeah that was like three reasons ago why we need it for. Oh yes sure. We were advocating. We started another huge war over this. But we've we've moved on to this other thing and so many of these things I mean like you look at like he's Weird Jamie estate where they WANNA Kurdistan they want to state. It sometimes like when when it's causing violence for everyone else. Kurds can live in Syria just like they did before. This war started as citizens of Syria. You don't get to have the ethnically weekly exclusive state within another state. They already pushed out the Assyrians Christians and Druze and other ethnic minorities to create row Java. And you know I don't I mean I. A lot of it is about Syria. But like you don't get to do that. But our government supports it. They supported Ukraine all the sudden. Then Nazis are okay. We'll I'll give them guns and money was no principal. Now the only principles will will this initiate a lot of violence. Are I was doing this. That's the government's way. Yeah and I and then of course you know I. It's like it's hard to you know I I'm really not a fan of Donald Trump and of course all the stuff you've been talking about with Israel I mean he's just so badly for all different reasons than what he actually gets criticized. Yes the exact opposite. I mean the truth. Is You know I'm not going to vote for Donald Trump. I didn't vote for last time I am. I don't support him in this stuff in Yemen. The his policy on Israel are just too bad there to disqualifying for me to support him. But say you. Oh yeah ran terrible on around around pretty good on North Korea. The few things here and there that he's decent on any rhetorical. He's that's right that's right but you know I gotta to say I have to at least tip my hat to trump that you know back when they were were saying you know Assad Did another chemical attack when they were pushing that around can't just about any other president I think would have been more likely I mean had it been Hillary Clinton we probably I never would have stopped arming the moderate rebels else if it was Hillary Clinton and I think she probably would have had much. They cut off. Moderate lay ahead shoppers. A heart at one point one of them was eating a from Allah Shamas. Grilling pilots are eating at John McCain went and met with that group. That's right yeah friend of mine wrote that story Michael. Michael Kyle journalists from Ireland. He's now deceased but he did good work on that. Yeah well I mean so. At least at least trump seems to have you know Some some hesitation before starting a new big war or before pushing into like who came into Shooting the cruise missiles was his daughter. Order that's rising according to his son. Yeah she you know the the poor children speech in she you know she married into the Kushner family. Who Has Netanyahu sleeping of their house? So no doubt. They had their Netanyahu who's now been indicted right on a pack that then you'd the thing bribery charges and corruption not murder not smelling krytrons triggers. And stealing you know nuclear material all long list of crimes is butcher is done. It's Oh you took illegal campaign tiniest easy so did his wife. That's what they're getting in on. I would even settle. This is how much were being how badly we're losing thing that I would even settle for even if we're not going to start charging people with war crimes even the ones who certainly should be charged with war-crimes but even if we're not can we at least least say will you don't get to like make the next call. Can we at least say that all the journalists and all the neo cons and all the war hawks who sold us the war in Iraq. Back like we don't listen to them when they're advising us to go into the next even if we're not going to like prosecute them or something like that but of course those are the exact same Pew. I mean Netanyahu do when he would say I got a job at Fox right on a jail jail. I mean like the fact that I almost in a weird perverse sick way. It almost makes me admire some of them. Like Netanyahu was on television sometime in this last year. We were talking about on the show and he was like Iran is close to developing nuclear. We are weapon and you're just like dude the balls on human like he's been saying this since the late eighties and he's given this way. Yes he's given time. was every you a report in mother Jones not the best media but this article was good and they had a list of how many they've been six months away for for decades now. They're always six months away and he's got this stupid cartoon bombs. Yeah and you know he did a really good debunking of that away. It was like nine years ago ago. But Scott Horton. Did this like seven minute speech. That just had all their an rhetoric and excuses and the reality and a little bit of teaching you about uranium like it's gotta be ninety percent or above taking their weapons. It's only like nine minutes long. It or not seven minutes long and it perfectly sums it up and you wouldn't know you it's like he made it yesterday because all the crap they're saying now is exactly what they were saying back then the same is nothing changed. Yeah Yeah I mean. They'll be one new incident. You know one new thing. Oh they bombed this submarine or they they did some attack that the coup Caesar claiming they were responsible for on the Saudi oilfield. Or something like that. But it's basically the same thing and then right away and they're working on a nuclear weapon or something and it's just it's infuriating is that people seem to Like you you would think they would all be discredited credited. Go Away I remember. People like the Sean Hannity Fox News talking points were after the Miller report came out and they were like well on me can't right right but they were saying well. All these people who are promoting You know the Russia collusion hoax. They're all discredited. And you're like really really. We are thinking because I'm still hearing from Max boot on CNN. You know what I mean like if he's EXP- discredited by now Ukraine Gate instead phone calls The the whole Iran is building. The bomb stuff is a tweet about the Iraq. You can't let the smoking gun. Be a mushroom cloud fear propaganda. Fear Brian It's the same same same rhetoric. Iran wants to build nuclear power because if they have nuclear power for electric city frees up all the oil. They currently consume on electricity. Listen which they could put on the open market which it would give them enough to where they will be able to build all their infrastructure without getting international loans welcomed I pearl. They don't want that to happen so they say. Oh they're building nuclear weapons and the audacity is the The Israelis the Americans that they're all guilty of what they're accusing everyone. Everyone else of you know who does have nuclear weapons Israel. They sold material Lena estates and built it yearly country actually use nuclear weapons the United States. It's on civilian cities right and that's so well that just gets a pass Nagasaki and here asieme there's still radiation death from that. Oh by the way and it's all well and I hate to lie about while that save lives. That sugar may showing. Oh yeah well. That's that's the same as up as down. You know the problem problem is that we weren't. We didn't intervene enough in World War One and World War Two. That's the problem you know. It's just like everything is twisted into the exact surge big enough to Iraq right right all right all of these things right or is the reason. Why Like my favorite one which right-wingers can't get out of their head is that the big problem was that Obama. pull the troops out out of of Iraq. You have this two pronged A tack when when Al Qaeda excuse me when Isis when in a stormed into Iraq back and it's like one is that Obama is arming isis and Syria and the other is that he pulled troops out of Iraq and there was like you know what the problem here was pulling the troops out of Iraq. It's like well. How about the funding and arming Isis? Part couldn't we have just not done that and it's like wow that's we don't really talk we'll be heading to hand the government it over to she nepotism. There wouldn't have been a conflict with the Sunni and the Kurds while that's and there wasn't before they used to be all intermarried and everything also as bad as Saddam was every bad thing he did. We made worse. We made more war torture rape of starvation. All that made it worse and is ongoing going and you may al Qaeda and Iraq becomes the al Qaeda of Iraq and Syria with Dessel. Isis means right this these llamas state of rocket Syria and yeah. It's just but I don't know if it's cracked to call at blowback. His blowback is unintended. Consequences I think they're indifferent to the consequences assists like yeah. Let's make a mess And it did result and terrorist attacks throughout Europe and knock on wood. It could still happen in the United States. Because you're you're over there. Murdering people and that the cognitive dissidence is just amazing Ohio. Are we being attacked. We what. What did the September eleventh eleventh hijackers say they're motivated by all the slaughter in Iraq and Lebanon? And you know legitimately so don't be mad about those things as meaning go kill People New Yorker anything but you know you. It's a very reasonable predictable consequences. How would you know what you'll people murdered your kids you know? It's that the the most basic put yourself in someone else's shoes some Shuler on Mir three years old now and it just isn't there with government no absolutely and if there's any like the best evidence to me of the fact that they know like they know that this is what's really motivating him. Is that since nine eleven. They've had dozens and dozens and dozens of what they call. FBI sting operations which are really FBI entrapment operations and every single time. When they try to recruit these guys they never go to them and go? Hey don't you just hate the bill of rights. Don't you hate that. We have freedom and wealth. And Oh my God. Did you see Ariana Grande. As last video isn't the terrible with the West is what they say. Every time is what do you think of America's foreign policy look what they're doing to these Muslim countries that this is this is how the even when we're we're doing it just to set someone up to like inflate. FBI statistics this is how they recruit people they know. Exactly what motivates these people then yes. Many of them are religious fundamentalists and sure there's problems with that but that's what they're clinging to the motivating factor is the fucking bodies. And of course like you said this is just basic understanding of the human condition. You don't I mean it seems like commonsense but we don't have commonsense common sense there's this Right wing comedian. I'm not gonNA steal his routine or anything you're funny guy too. But there's there's Italian guy and he was saying I'm I'm a right wing comedian which is pretty rare because most comedy is leftist or you. Are you offended someone. And now you're out of the building. We need to save space for comics. Also be saying you know right wing Comedians. When you get to say things that are common sense That are not politically correct but are correct. Like if you want to go to school you should pay for it or there are two genders or you just need is a whole list of things that are like well obvious obvious in the eighties or whatever. Now it's why I mean it's all about identity edited needed and that extremism With that it has a polar backlash right that the w culture sure and they total protection around it is what gave rise to its polar opposite and People are gravitating towards socialism nowadays days nationalism or even ethno-nationalism and and all these things. And that's why we desperately need that libertarian voice. Because I'll hear people all oh load -tarian and then as they are. What was your problem with libertarianism? And it's always actually an argument against anarchy not libertarianism. ACT Like we don't WanNa have have courts or anything like I don't want I don't want the government involved in picking winners and losers in the marketplace is that simple get- still have courts is not believe it's like it's not anarchy Just the government's too big and all this all this on the socialist side when they're talking about all the problems occur capitalism and bailouts Elsa no bid contracts. I am what do all these things have in common. Who enables it? Let who gave the money to Lockheed Martin O.. The Government Ed who bailed out the bank thank all the government did who set the regulations that got that whole housing crisis in any way the government and the quasi and what you call the Fed is not early government or private sort of his own category. Because they're appointed by the president but they're not responsible anyone but yeah like all the ill will agree if they ear able to to hear the libertarian philosophy but there are sort of people who called themselves libertarian who never were just to be not not once not mainstream in the edgy or whatever. They never really understood the philosophy. And so I'm excited to have another Vaughn Paul esque Hurson running like Jacob Hornberger like like. That's even if he doesn't win. We need that conversation shifted so that if because of the flossy spreads That helps anyway. Like you don't have to do it through government. I quit doing things. Yeah we'll just out of fifty five billion dollar trade deal with Japan. I can now go get. US beef big fat steak for six dollars. Couldn't do that. Before the obvious gets trump lifted some tariffs incited ave. But that's not the government doing something. That's the government stopping doing what it already was doing. Like dared one made care in the first place right so he did has quit doing what you 'cause they there's a problem that you made and he finds that if the government could do some more More or or less. Stop doing things that would help a lot. Yeah well there's you know there's there's a lot in there and what you just said and I think that the the like what are they called the lober Tehran's or whatever which is like the dismissive dismissive take on Libertarians? and to me what a lot of that comes from is the fact that that after. Because you didn't hear this. Intel Ron Paul's presidential campaigns ended. And that's when this started really coming around and the truth is that there have been no libertarian. Leaders since is that that had any real teeth or real courage and I think when you see wh- as you mentioned. This is kind of a response to the crazy unhinged the woke left and when when you're under attack constantly and in the most absurd ways like they're they're looking for someone who's actually GonNa fight back back take a principled stand and obviously just calling. Someone a libertarian. There's no argument there. It's just like dismissive bullshit. But it's like I. We already addressed that dismissed it in our own echo chamber with no libertarians. Around Right K.. Exactly all right. Let's take a quick. I think our sponsor for today's show. which is the Ridge Wallet Wallet Ridge? Wallet is the COOLEST Wallet out there. It's the sleepiest wallet. It's you feel like you're in the future the the wallet you've been walking around with its is throwing your spine out of alignment. That's the wallet that your GRANDPA would have had that your father would have had. This is the wallet of the future. It's the better way to hold your cards and your cash. 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That's ridge dot com slash problem. Use the Promo Code problem. There's also a link in the episode so description below awesome wallet check it out and also makes a great gift for the holiday season so go check it out at Ridge Dot com slash problem. All right let's CAPAC into the show my message. I was up at a pork fest last year and I was talking to a group of Libertarians. They were talking about the alt-right guys and how they kind of like talk to them. And I was like my my thing to them is that it's like you got to like you. Got To take a ballsy position you have to be willing to stand up to the left in his hardcore away away as they are and then also stand up to them and then also tell them why they are retarded as well. You know what I mean like you just have to have like the courage to say basic truths like even that that example of the right wing comedian. You're just using. It's like look man if you don't have the courage to say that there aren't seventy two genders then how are you going to stand up to the CIA saying like real true entrenched powers. You gotTa have the courage. The problem is when you say There there are two dinners like it's a bad thing. You can sum it up real. Quick people are confusing masculine feminine with male and female to male and female are biological categories Penis Vagina and masculine and feminine in our sort of cultural qualities. A man can be feminine. That doesn't mean he's supposed to be a woman just means he's a guy who happens to be feminine ran a woman can be masculine. They want his his teleology again. They they are guilty with accused everyone else. If they think that feminine and female half to Match Mail Mash than have to match so if they don't you're supposed to be the Oth- South one less poor on the hormones and surgery and whatever and I and I'm not even against If you WANNA do that fine but I don't want men plane women's sports I don't WanNa man and thrown in a women's jail. This actually happened where he did rape women in the jail with his peanuts. It's re- clown world stuff. But the problem is if you're you're on Youtube or whatever and you say there are two genders. It's hate speech right right. You say. Common Sense stuff is considered hate speech the outright they'll come out with all these Statistics about racing crime or Iq. Or whatever. And I will. I will give them the other explanations besides biology elegy for all those things which is a long conversation and I've been able to convert quite a big chunk of the high hadn't thought of it like that. I didn't know that whoever it's dialogue is what gets rid of that but D platforming an echo chambers that. Just lets it fester and grow right now. I I completely agree with that. And it's almost as if if the If the goal was to build the alt-right up as much as possible the establishment couldn't have done a better job of it like whatever their their goal was but from Hillary Clinton's deplorable speech to the banning to then promoting the leaders than banning other people than constantly lecturing white people about the privilege. I mean they've really they've they've done everything they can to create that situation and that's racist itself and the in Racism Against Racism if you're GonNa say what's essentially racist basis things about white people like millions of people all they're all this like this right Then there's GonNa be a backlash like a portion of those people are going to be sick of it. There's not there's nothing surprising by somebody going. How come my group held so higher standard than this other group right like when my children children if they wanted to go to college in the? US THEY GOTTA get a higher. Because they're half Asian they gotta get higher score than anybody what why not advantaged anyway. My biology they left wants to take like average statistics. They do this with the wage gap. Bs like wow. On average men earn more than women might want to average Minna working in fields. Zip Pay more. Dr And their whole bunch of reasons for that are not. It's not biology. Okay but you know it would be really weird. If everybody of every category exactly the same in every industry got would be strange. There's always one more than the other in something right. That's just normal like all we want all the exact same male engineers the nurses in that at other that but Yeah initially like premanent. People don't understand math. I had a great statistics teacher too so people people are in numerous not illiterate. Numerous they can't look at averages and understand what that number means Not Game Pay less for the same job just because is The average pays less overall. It could be more men are working or whatever you know and you can. Endlessly make categories. How Taller there's hey there's some stats like taller? People make more than shorter people and stuff like that as like they don't really is is. The men are taught him women in the earned more and and you know add whether whatever it's just like you look at Different demographics have a higher height than others. And you have to look at average ages right. So it was like all Hispanics earn less than Japanese or or something like the average age Japanese in the forties the average age Hispanics in the twenties and people in their forties earned more than people twenties. There's nothing magic about it. You know it but you need a throw Thomas. Oh look at somebody or something. They these kinds of simple things is. It's like a death by one hundred cuts that you have to explain. Seen a lot of stuff but they're not allowed to hear it because if I'm going to have that discussion with someone don't even be alright is whoever I'll get banned because because just for letting them speak. Read the same era somebody. WHO's literally Hitler and from talking to these people like none of them? Really I on that non there are some. But they're not they don't want violence or they're not racist or not. Hiller they're not Nazis Zeina. They just they want like things to be even. That's all. Yeah and I'm like Okay and talk over the I mean most of like a most. I think of the way that history works is that you know people are reactionary they form groups and react against others and that they kind of they tend to over not overcompensate but over correct maybe is the what the term. I'm looking for that. They tend to so it's kind of like people work on this instinctual level. Where they like they even even you see today like the people on the left you look at like occupy Wall Street or something like that where they're like well? This is corrupt so we need socialism. you know they want this kind of over correction but they are responding to something that is corrupt up to these bankers brought down the economy and get bailed out for it that is kind of bullshit and then they're they're answer might not be perfect but I think a lot of these young men who are drawn to the alt-right right it's like they're lectured constantly about what they can and can't say they live in this hyper political correct world and they're like the Holocaust never happened and how about that never happened now I can say whatever I don't get lumped into that crap too I'm like I give this analogy I'll be real like clean with my language shared with like the Holocaust suffer example. That's let's move away from that because it's too emotional talk about some. That's awesome Less than that would be like. Climate Climate Change Right. Sure Let. For the sake of argument the earth is getting warmer and just put on pause. How much man made how much is natural does matter if let's say it is getting warmer fine if you're going to do what Al Gore did and take footage from a fictional movie the day after tomorrow and act like that's the ice caps APPs melting in? It isn't and if you're going to say you're gone and twelve years we'll have pallbearers and have A whole bunch of either greatly exaggerated or fake. Things like a picture of Kilimanjaro in the summer and winter. And say look how much it change from this year to that and not telling People's opposite seasons you now. If you'RE GONNA mislead lie and exaggerate it makes people doubt your position rather than accept it. That doesn't mean the era. Is it warming. It just means that silly evidence that you provided for it causes doubt now magic. You made a rule that say you're not allowed to save the Earth. Earth isn't warming that would make people doubt it more not less right now in World War Two. You have a pretty similar situation. There is a holiday there definitely when he was a holocaust. Definitely a Lotta Bullshit said about it as well about soap and lampshades and all these ridiculous exaggerations electric floors death by lumberjack Atkinson. And so my position is it's you. Should debunk. All the silliness just like He. Should Debunk Al Gore and AFC. And all that and that doesn't mean this. This isn't true it's just like it's very important to get rid of these exaggerations because if you don't and once people find out the are exaggerations is all there was no gas chamber rebuking waller southern there wasn't or there was you know Al Gore use fake footage or something. You're the baby out with the bathwater right but you're you cannot have nuance on these topics. Picks like that's My van from even saying the word you know this is set by the way. This is a great point and this you're actually just said You said better what I was trying to say before to the Libertarians pork vest whereas saying the reason why you have to have the courage to stand up to some of this leftist craziness. Is that if you don't then so you kind of see that ground to the only people who will and if the only person who will stand up and tell the truth on a number of issues is also saying some crazy shit it that you don't want to be out there. Then they go. That people tend to go well. He's the only one actually telling me the truth. I mean look. This is part of the reason. Why when I I used to like listen to Alex Jones fairly regularly and I could always tell he was a little like crazy and full of shit like I could just always tell you just from his personality but there was such accounts and making the frogs black helicopter chasing me around now? Yeah that's actual Tampa valleys. No but you know what part of the the reason why somebody like that became so popular is because there are. All of these real conspiracies out there. Is You know very well that the media just doesn't report on and then hell throw a few some of them out and I remember learning like I heard about Operation Northwood from Alex Jones. I'd never heard about that before. And I hear about that and I'm like this Camp House true and then you look it up and you're like Oh this is real. This really happened and the plan really got signed off by the Joint Chiefs. You're like so this is real and only he told me about that so now if the corporate repress refused to cover this she gains all this credibility with young me where I go oh shit only he was willing to tell the truth and then you have a little because I feel like You've probably heard that I call him. Melon head are really. Don't like him but you heard from melon head first because he kind of acts like the all media dragnet so that if he was out of the way you would have heard it from me but it's because he's air just just sucking all the air out of the room. They're like well. The first time I heard about XS from Alex Jones and really. Yeah but you know look read were saying this He hijacked project a lot of things that I said and then he would say what care but it's then he adds crazy sauce to all of it. It's like if you WanNa talk about the Levant affair or something like that And then it's like. Oh boy here comes Jonestown and I got to spend like twenty minutes on defense. VI Like nullum not denying school shootings. Now I'm not thinking. Earth is whatever. Yeah Ah he's not a flatter if he's not that bad but like you know what I mean saying I'm Fukushima radiations coming on to America our all either gonNA live in bunkers in New Zealand. It could sometimes he goes way off the rails right but you know ten percent of what he's saying true that's ten percent more than the mass meaty 'cause all they do is right. CNN in in said about the Malaysian airliner that may be a black hole swallowed. Yeah having Yes don Don Lemon who is yeah he is. I think the dumbest person in cable news which is really really saying something because there's a lot of people competing for that title but yes. He openly started speculating about whether it could would have been a black hole that took you even science. I mean it's so it's really like as you said before it's clown world it's truly truly clown around world. Let's let's Talk I wanted. Somebody said I WANNA bump down. No no no no no You you had a key the point I was Kinda like hold this thought in my head because The outright and the S J ws I feel like when you're talking about you said not overcompensation but uh-huh overcompensation it's like the paternalistic racism like. Hey look here's my block friend. Here's mcadoo friendly. People announce right adjectives matters But anyway that I feel like it's two reactions to the same thing and it's collectivism once again whereas It's from white guilt like most of these social most of the both groups are white people and the sea ws and the outright. And it's a wave wave reacting to this collective blame on a race for what states did so if you talk about atrocities like Slavery every in the United States or colonizing of the Indians or or something like that which is what a government did that gets blamed on Whiteness. Instead like the whites killed the Indians the white slave the Africans the white the white the white as if that's a product of biology. It's not you know that who the Irish in the Polish and the other white people around slaving people earn whatever. It's definitely because of a government and you can see that there are other white countries not involved in it and it's common sense ought to be but there's this collectiveness have they do the other thing too like well so acyl invented XYZ. And he was why Isaac Newton named in but the the force behind invention enchanted scientists. And all that isn't Biology it's free markets. That's unique look that globally and historically that's what holds if you have seatrade markets and sawn then you know that those kind of spring forth but this collectivism on blaming a racial group for atrocities either make someone feel like really terrible about it and want to overcompensate as sort of like hate themselves and hate others and trying and and that's why they WANNA support affirmative action and anything that helps relieve believe that guilt right in the show. It's not their fault. It's not a biological product. The other side gets resentful for say. Why blame me? I didn't do it wherever they go the other way away and I think the birthplace of the outright estee ws is this Nonsense from public education that is collectivists and is blaming races. This is and also taking credit Whether it's good or bad they think it is a product of biology rather than any other source as that you see that they both hold the only two groups that are obsessed with race and sex. And you know all these categories are s shea ws in the outright. Yeah at it's interesting out of break. That biological corridor. That's right and it's also it always seems like to me that the you know the the government or the area of politics is where you see like almost like you know this. This is where people are like. Look there's like a Goddamn race war it's like go on a youtube video and look at the left or the alt-right and it's like you could really you could get lost on a youtube stream of like social justice warriors and then alt-right guys and be like man this country on the verge of a of a race war but then I walk outside my door and I go down to the supermarket and it's like everybody seems to be kind of working out and figuring it out together and people are friends and people are hanging out and even if they're not friends or hanging out even if they have some private you know somewhat bigoted beliefs there for trading with each other and everything's fine and everyone's really just trying to get home to their family and kind of amplified pluralism as what happens happened so quick example. There's some kid named Desmond you know who I'm talking about already. It's one kid is one kid and he puts on makeup whatever and he danced in a gay bar. Something that just dislike. Some one kid that became kids are dancing and gay bars everywhere and resonated visited A. It's just like one guy The knockout game. That happened like five times. Oh it's an epidemic. They're running around not people out on the street for no reason. That just went away right right so I think the media is grabbing. These things they know is going to call is a conflict right and is blow it up that Desmond kids than on all the three letter. Networks like the lead show. This conservative Christians is stuff a little boy with a high around and they know that that's not gonna fly and that they do it on purpose is Frankfurt. School is like they want Click Bait has extended to all forms of media right. It started on the web where everybody's just everything and they titles and all that but yeah and they really. Oh it's infuriating because it's like you you. Mother fuckers are like playing around with inflaming racial tensions engines like this is not a joke. This can go really really bad. I mean I remember thinking about it with the What's the fucking guys name? the The guy in In Chicago the the Black Gay guy to that fake Hate crime or pointing us. fucking name Do you. He's he was a like say. The crimes are self inflicted. Well this this one was really particularly outrageous where the guy said that two guys in trump hats came. Oh yes the Jesse smaller junk Jesse smell. Yes so so so it ended up being complete bullshit as you say yes yes. That's right so justin smollet. He makes this whole thing up but the the thing that's crazy is that even if the story he told was true it wasn't national news it it was like a guy got punched in Chicago. People get murdered in Chicago like like dozens almost every week. It's like so it's like. Why is this even a national story story? If what he said was true only because the angle is black guy got punched white people. Let's make this then right. And then they flip it around and go black-eyed story for the top nonsense. Did you guys write the Litvinenko script or the scripts scraper approach or the used car smelled whereas blogging used cars from Mexico to sell in Africa at some of the real stories. Right legend the real not. Fake News Yeah that was really over the top and he got boss they but nothing happened to him right. Oh no he's suing the city for for like a false prosecution or something like that now. He's probably not will cost tension with police at all but then but the kid with the hat that was was just standing in DC on the Lincoln. That's right the Catholic school. The COVINGTON Catholic school kids in Eighth Phillips is like all in his face because he just as soon as well as a bunch of white kids as trump tad. I'M GONNA go virtue signal in front of him but once again even if the story was what they claimed it was right away way. Why is this national television? This is not a story even if the story was high school kid is kind of a jerk like is that a story really and then it turns out. He wasn't a jerk at all but then on the other side of it. You'll see some of these things where like when some white dude get's murdered by the cops and they don't really run with that because that's not going to inflame racial tensions because then you might actually start realizing. Oh this is more of a policing problem than it is really a racial problem. And that's not really going to pit people against against each other that just kind of unites people against the state so that doesn't do anything you know what I mean for the also not covering that stuff even remotely evenly or whatever people are GonNa notice that like the outright will say how looking this white girl that got raped by three guys from Dominica or whatever Why why wasn't this national news yet? This other fake story was like you're just giving him legitimate AMMO right. It's right trading things like that. Yeah and they do have a fair point in that. Because they're right. If the races were reversed the the national press would have jumped on this and made it a huge story. The answer isn't necessarily that the that now we have to draw some grant more big stories. Yes I like it you know unfortunately like there. There is violence in this world world and you know as you pointed out earlier the most institutional and the most widespread form of it comes from the state but yet really is like I. It's just it's it's scary scary. What they're willing to play with and I saw this with the Democrats who are were now at least? Several of the candidates are running on reparations for slavery. And it's like do you guys look around it what's going on. What do you think that'll do for the second? Didn't didn't the Democrats under Obama and Hillary invade Libya and 'cause openair slavery in two thousand eleven in northern Africa. Are they running on the make slavery great again because that's what they did. Human beings were sold for four hundred dollars. Look this up people. Four hundred dollars. You could buy person in Libya because of essentially handing al-Qaeda country. That's what it's really it was hilary's War I called Bama Obama the spineless but Hillary that was her plan and then that caused the refugee crisis in any more and more escalation of problems because of government decisions made hits and in this when coming back censorship thing. I hear couple solutions. You all. You need to enforce anti-trust laws and we need to make or public utilities. Who really when the government charging has been better the government look look look at me? The government is not going to help you. Okay you have Stockholm Syndrome if you think. The government wants a vibrant alternative alternative media or I the only real solution is grim. It is as it may seem is market solution so you don't get on Vk instead of Facebook Book Start Using D.. Live or Bishou liberty or something instead of YouTube. If you've been kicked off Start using maybe Gab in just as a backup for twitter order and instead of using instagram have a self esteem that is good advice but like you said it does sound on kind of grim. And there's and this is one of the reasons why Libertarians tend to lose because it's always sounds grams. It's it's real yes yes exactly no. It is the correct answer but it always sounds better. It's an easier sale to say. Now it's just write a law. Let's just have a government policy and we'll just just do it and that's a simple cell and you know no matter what it is. It's like even if you're talking about Like immigration or something like that and you go like a well. Maybe we shouldn't a huge welfare state. Maybe we should stop destabilizing. All of these countries in South America. Maybe this will build a wall build. A wall is just that sells. That's like we got a plan. We're GONNA do this all this other kind of kind of abstract principle take the. This is the libertarian difficulty. What we gave? W what are what we have going for us is that the truth is on our side so what we have going for us that we're right. The problem is that it's like six nick sentences to sell it and it's not one sentence. Where is operatives instance? Yes exactly yes. That's like where I live. We don't have an immigration immigration problem And yet Japan is a second or third wealthiest country in the world and right next to a lot of poor places and and we don't have an immigration problem. The also don't have social welfare in refugees. Japan's Akin last year forty seven forty seven and that was double they played it. TURNS OWL if you don't put sugar on the floor. You don't get ants right right. Yeah that may come to Japan. You're going to have to work so I would you do that. Just go to Sweden and get a free house like right and then and you also you you know you get what you what you attract Is a result of the system that you have in place so if you have if you say you come here you're going to have to work within the people who do go there come there here to work. And if you haven't welfare state a lot of people come there to get on the government Dole and so you know it's necessary for to have these policies or Japan would be Chinese overnight. It wouldn't be Japanese INGWER. The call wouldn't assimilated just twenty. Six million Chinese would move Panin instant you know his way better to into banned in China is getting better in China but especially when they were communists Anita was was terrible like people would come to Japan and have a baby and then go back to China. 'cause they had a one child Oh bouncy so they come over here and have the baby and then go back. I mean it's ridiculous. The the stupid government logic like right next to Taiwan According to cop going back to commonsense Taiwan's country right I mean they have their own government their own currency laws or it's a country but but we have the one child the one China policy only only in government. Logic is Taiwan's still part of China right with Rice on the country country. Just admit it. Nope you know we're not going to do that Everyone knows Israel as nukes but our government stances the neither deny knowledge kind of thing. Yeah it's not easy but there's pictures of the warheads from horticulture Voodoo it who are who Robert Maxwell by the way Helped put in prison. His daughter is is the shallow rakes. Jeff Epstein permanent time to get any of that stuff. We're GONNA have to do that on another show I wanted to talk Epstein with you. But we'll have to do another podcast broadcasts because otherwise we're just going to rush through it the whole time but that really dark stuff though man But you know what I'll say this quickly about obscene. He's most infamous about being a child raping lunatic and blackmailer song which was Not Alone though. He had a whole huge backing. Assist assist wasn't some guy that appeared but when he started working with the Massad the first thing he was trying to do is illegal arms sales with Douglas. And the the WHO's who But his very first Ponzi schemes like ripping off insurance companies and then trying to buy airliners and so on with Steve Hoffenberg earn and those guys He got bailed out by the New York. Federal Reserve Setup Liquid Ltd in the in Bermuda to to act as basically a a sieve to offload toxic assets from bear stearns. So you know bear stearns as it was in the subprime market getting all that and for people don't know what I'm talking about. What what they do to balance the books is they'll take a bunch of debts like money they owe us and sell sell it to their own subsidiary? So they'll sell a D Epstein so now he owes all the money and then their book looks good agency Ehrlich Look we were solvent. You know but the first of the month they buy in backing not. It's not a real sale. Today we go to lake that so that that was like a simple part of the gamut but the result was guys like Jeff Epstein steely. And all these people and it's not just bear stearns it's like every financial institution Goldman's as all of them they made maiden lane and then together with With the financial banks. They came in and bought out bear stearns and but the senior loan that entire fair was from maiden lane. LLC created by the New York Federal Reserve it was twenty eight a billion dollars out of thirty billion dollars so J. P. Morgan Chase is only paying like one and a half billion and then essentially Dummy company set up by the Newark Fell Reserve as the other twenty eight to make solvent other companies. That were totally engaged aged fraud and it got worse. They put commercial paper into drive his money. Marketing Frank Russell Investment and others like hundreds of millions of dollars of a dummy Marnie and it's way worse than the kind of common explanation. You get about CD owes and credit default swaps. It was way worse and all that but di whole mess. This is another show too but I just wanted to say like it. Government was backing Epstein the US government and the US banks they later the Israelis like he always. He's had a big daddy that got him out of trouble and that happened again into you know the first time he got caught. Yeah Riley go to prison in like so and What's his name the guy who was the The Energy Secretary who stepped down Blogging on Kosta. Got The blame for that. But they gave him the deal but he did say that it was it came from intelligence that was basically like let this guy go easy on him and he was kind of like. Oh well I was just doing kind of what I was told. And then of course like if the if the corporate press wasn't just completely useless wouldn't that piece of information alone just warrant like a ton of of investigative reporting who'd go wait. Who the hell was that? Who where did you get this from? And that no one seems to be interested in these follow up questions and then of course as we all saw an anyone one can understand that That that chicken. ABC News who was like. Yeah we have the story years ago and and they they is washed. Yeah so it's yeah it's really just so much about that story is just so obviously like well. It's it's his sponsors Les Wexner Than We've had witnesses come forward now saying that Dershowitz another's rake it young women in wexner properties were held there by his private security. Guards this is a billionaire. Who's also been accused by the way of Sexual harassment by seven of his own employee's but webster Michael Steinhardt and Charles and Edgar Bronfman Senior With some other people created something called the Mega Group. which is short it from? Mega donors at Zionists think-tank Made a WHO's who the the craziest of the crazy and his IRAS clicks and their the whole idea was to sponsor and whether it was hooker crook bribery blackmail. Whatever it took to get lucrative real estate deals and push Israeli interests in the United States as the Epstein get having a house given to him by Leslie Wexner as setting up the Wexner Foundation Dacian where the two of them illegally finance? Who'd Bharat? Who was the head of the Mossad at the time and later became the prime minister of Israel is beyond suspicious? The Cardi a group that same thing and other money laundering fight where they were giving money to Israel and then bureaucracy guy the introduced blackstone Harvey Weinstein whose you know on trial trial for raping multiple women Former Mossad agents that go around harassed the victims of rape adding. It's worse and worse you get you get into George Steinhardt erasure now. He's these child. Raping Rings in Brazil is a long story and I. If you know with enough time I can walk through it off made like maps about this stuff off but what you're hearing on the three letter. Networks is basically just been reduced to Gazelle Maxwell John Burnell and Prince Andrew and nobody else at the do bins. That nothing and Dershowitz may be but it's like a five person ring on my own now. It's way bigger than that. I wait what we're sign of that road else. They'll even throw Bill Clinton because it's kind of like well we all knew sign of a creep and he's kind of gone and the Clintons are out of power now pictures of trump Britain. Yeah Bill Clinton was on the airplanes or something like that right I Bill Clinton Bill Clinton and Hillary gave pardons to mark rich and pincus green or already caught and trick child trafficking and and Owned Glencore and you know all this exploitation. That African compromise Zambia and the it's the list of crimes from the Clintons is too much which I can't even memorize it all it who would have a overwhelming. I WANNA I saw I saw a mem- I think it was. I might be getting this a little bit wrong but it really made me laughed like a memo on twitter that I saw where they said they go. Who would have thought that a pizza gate would age better than the Russia collusion hoax? It's just like his like. Are you look back at pizza gate and how outraged they got about that. You like well like even if they weren't like completely on and maybe some people said some things that weren't exactly true like a saved express pizza. Yeah they often do well. It is an isn't what they often do as a form. I'm this is like operation mockingbird stuff combined with with MK Naomi which is a little different than what you think you know about Mk. Ultra is probably probably the Jonestown Weirdo version. But there is a real version with George Whiting. Ali Sings Sleep. Put a pin in that but What Pizza Gate was saying? It's like there's there are Dr things like that The finders colts the What are the man to man? The Dream Boys the Franklin scandal that there things like Mike that up with real child trafficking and all this really weird stuff killing goats and all that people with red shoes but What they did is they put out a story that was false saying Oh look the Badescu desert in Spain or whatever and it's actually just a police sketch to sketches of one guy not the two brothers? So as easily debunk. -able stuff saw. Ah That's nonsense right But even though that is and impedes gators was false. Things like actually are happening all the time. And it video of all the government agencies involved in child rape and it's just picks up the National Park Service it's the B I a the FBI Z.. I like the all do it. The Dod in Nine Cory Gardner that one pretty famous rape in our own military personnel and drugging I and I it's gross child trafficking is Multibillion on human trafficking multibillion dollar business how much of that kids versus It's mostly women in the sex trade but You talking multiple billions of dollars in absolutely the government's involved in all that. Yeah well look. There are countries that didn't have walls against it until the two thousands. Yeah I've I've looked into some some of this stuff. Obviously you you know the stuff a lot better than I do but I have always been saying for years is that you just gotta go like when you really start to use that term. You use that. I hate using as well but when you start getting woke about the true evil evil nature of the state and what they do to bring it back to that Madeleine Albright quote that you mentioned earlier when you're who can just straight up say with no hesitation. Nothing there she's presented with the five hundred. Thousand Children have starved to death as he goes. Yeah Ninety seven. This is the sanctions After that and this is pre nine eleven. It's not even like Oh. There was this the justification for this whole Iraq's threat to America No. You couldn't even argue. It was like they were a threat of of like to retaliate to slant drilling by Kuwait. There's no there's no plausible justifications lists and your anguish we actually gave him the okay. Hey do rightly or to go against that that stuff. I have read a lot about the whole first. Persian Gulf War was such a sham But it's like if you like you gotta step back and just as a human being. Who is that person like? What type of person is just okay with hundreds of thousands of children die? Do you think like who is that. that WHO's the babies out of incubators and they took him out and they threw on the cold floor. Oh those four babies what about the five hundred thousand children aloe well. They're not on incubator. So one of my favorite things was Tom Tom Woods. WHO's like One of my favorite people on the planet. And he was he millennials that was the justification for by the way by nightmare coached by hill and not complete farce. Yes that's right you can you can uh-huh a hell of a performance. Though that she gave Give her credit for that. Great acting. I was. I was a little kid watching that and I just thought she's fifteen. She has no accent. She speaks perfect English. I think this is BS. Well you were onto it quick because a lot of other people. Tom Woods was like a a standard kind of Republican guy. And that war is what turned him into an anti war. libertarian-leaning guy. I mean he found libertarianism. Waiter but that war I think turned him against the warfare state but he did this thing when he was talking about it where he was like he was like even as they're telling you that as Saddam Hussein's army is invading Kuwait there stopping at the hospitals to take babies out of incubators. He was like even if there was a group of people who are this evil. Doesn't that just seem like not not a practical plan when you're invading country but you're invading a country. Well quick we gotTA stop off at the hospital to just take babies out of incubators like the whole things just seem it's so obviously bullshit but this atrocity propaganda killing babies gassing babies like Syria was accused of doing and babies on incubators and ovens and all this stuff. You hear like Tom. Lantos champion. That war the Gulf War and he knew the original S. propaganda ed from CD Jackson and the rest of that came out of World War. Two and you know I'm I'm one of these guys that goes around and tries to bunk nonsense Even in real events whether it's nine eleven roar to the civil war whatever I'll I'll get real long popular. You know like no the civil level where was not about freeing the slaves. What Lincoln was a hero Theresa But you but you know I'm just telling you the evidence man and so Yeah with Gopher one though I would say this if you look at the level of support that were had because that was pre internet completely versus the second Iraq war the second Iraq war had millions of people protesting around the globe before it started the problem. Ms People are obsessed with what they've been taught like they're in love with seeing the hippies of Vietnam like with signs and something they think that's why we got out of Vietnam. We didn't get out of Denver under nine years That sort of theatrical resistance is almost useless like the grownup thing to do which people died to give you the right to do is to call or go to Congress. Make a meeting and talk to them that that the only ones doing doing matter corporate lobbyists. But you can do that That's how we got the twenty-eight pages released for The you know the infamous twenty pages on the Saudi Arabian role in nine eleven. It's you know it's straight up. Show that Prince of interpret ceiling Bandar Bush through intermediaries Amara Jimmy and Masan helped the finance to actually three to nine eleven hijackers. And there's other evidence shows third one but I don't feel like explaining so you had a kilometer and in Alabama's me directly financed by a state power. Those papers SAT Redacted for over a decade I had to I flew from Japan to Washington D. C. and lobbied constantly to get those released and they were I mean and I realized is man. Why don't we do more of that? Yeah it why. Don't we have the anti APEC and the anti all this stuff and just go in Ron. Paul had it down. He said lobbyists never came to see me because he wouldn't give them money so they just go into him. I had lane the lobbyists play in the state. I love that I could have like. I can just imagine. Imagine in my head because this was a thing that became known about Ron Paul. The he was the only congressman who the lobbyists just stopped going to. Because they knew. But you can imagine when Ron Paul I got into Congress and like the first few times that lobbyists went to him and he was like well Article One section eight of the Constitution doesn't give me the authority like what the fuck talking there. Are you new around here. We'll try them again in a few weeks in there because the turn the guy the representative in his state died and so the only like ninety eight percent or something like that income and sees incumbents get re elected so because there is a death at Ron Paul's as Republicans a medical doctor yet all the good optics we got like a real person in Congress for once right and a big part of your money so he was in Lake Lake Jackson or whatever the his district in Texas was. It's like a small little did. Yeah it's this little district in Texas. He was a baby doctor who delivered like three thousand babies. So if you think about the thousands of babies he had delivered he delivered like one out of every four persons in that town's baby or niece or grandson or something like that so always label and their kids can vote for. That's right and but then when they would go like They'd be like Ron Paul's Libertarian. Wants to end the war on drugs. He he wants to legalize heroin. They'd be like Dr Paul. No I think so he was able to get out of all the like kind of normal libertarian pitfalls that you would have just because people knew him in the community munity and we're like no he's like the you've ever met Ron Paul. He's just like the greatest human being like. He's everything he is on TV. He's just say he's just as just like you see a literally early. Exactly exactly the same guy he he is that guy and so it was just like people were just weren't buying it when they would try he really. Unfortunately it was like an aligning of the stars. Stars like just the perfect guy in the perfect district where he could actually make it happen but t I just wanted to. I think he's eleven philosopher. I think he you know I know there are other libertarians variants that are just as philosophically sound whatever but he's the one that got that spread that message to more people than all these intellectual Hayek. In the whole Amici's institute all of them combined like Ron Paul reached more people like Lamm self but that that movement hit and exploded with the youth and talking about his rebuttal. The Guiliani which you brought up in the beginning of the conversation are the following day you realize it on Ron. Paul got more donations from the US military than all all the other Republican candidates put together. That was a that was a big moment in terms of breaking the paradigm that we lived under. And I'll tell you that now it's like it's said Ed racist newsletters. Of course right. That's right because some other people wrote some questionable things thirty years ago. But you know what we're saying guys Harry me right now is saying Ron. Paul's racist assists Columbia drew hater. And all that same do it right. Exactly it's always just the worst free street GIG clown got like blue paint on his face and stuff is Jesus. I mean yeah there is but I'll tell you there's something about Ron Paul that I was thinking about this in in terms of Ron Paul's legacy recently when I was reading some article Where they were bashing Tulsi Gabbard and they were saying that right wingers are supporting Tulsi Gabbard? So this was the big hit on her. It's all these right wingers who are actually interested in Tulsi Gabbard. And you're like well. What is it that the right wingers quote unquote like Tulsi Gabbard? 'cause there's only one thing that we like about her. It's not who cares new deal well right but I'm one As specific reason it's because she she opposes most of these wars and why is being anti war all the sudden considers against the war in. She's against all these what she calls. Regime change wars for my brothers and sisters right. Just anti war but She's against regime. Change Wars for other sisters. She's against eighty al-Qaeda. She's willing only candidates actually go she. She said this is so funny. She went on with Steve. Colbert and Said said Yeah. Well in two thousand eleven the CIA was army now that that's a congresswoman admitting that our government aided Al Kinda Stephen had nothing to say just You I just went after we saw that kind of stuff But another reason I think they like her is she's the only one grown up on immigration. She's like no now. We should not give free healthcare to illegals yes. Yeah no she should not be radical position right. I think that's part of it too. But it's mostly yeah she doesn't WanNa go blow. Start these wars but I would say. A lot of the far-right are not opposed to the wars because age have sympathy for people in Syria and Iraq and Libya. They just don't like the resulting in refugees. Gone to Europe. No I agree I mike. Hey if you're very anti-war well no look and they also look. I agree with you. I'll take it. It's better than being pro war or by a million miles but it's also the fact that they feel like Israel is like duping us into these wars and American boys go and die to do. Israel's fighting yeah no no I think there is a lot of truth to that being said even if that is the case the main reason why I'm against the wars this is because of the innocent people slaughtered in those countries but there it is but what animates the far right about the wars. What gets them more upset about? It is the Israel the anger and the refugee angle. But like you said whatever they say the Jews not Israel but well it's not I just don't want to kill people you know. I think that it's a little bit all that but but there are people on the left that are just like Bernie Sanders Saint. Assad must go right like everyone should look up Bernie Sanders to the woodshed. If you're one of these people because I feel like a lot it's weird. There are a lot of Bernie supporters just like there are a lot of Obama supporters who were generally anti war and they sort of bestow this image of the person that doesn't match their record or reality reality whatsoever this kind of like whatever. Psychologically gratifying Obama would say. I'm for Hoping Change Nicole. Yeah here's the changes in hope I want I want to in these wars onto this and of course I just started new ones right Bernie Sanders is. He supported every war from Kosovo to Syria With the exception of the second Iraq war which he still voted finance three times. You know right Drone strikes. He was four that when Obama did it he's only been against it. What trump did he turned on Saudi Arabia? Not Because of the war in Yemen he had seven years dope but his mouth did say anything is when they bought weapons from Russia that then they cited all your bat right a full on Russia gator all that and so it's this weird I don't know I don't know what to call it. Something's really strange that there are people were generally looking for an anti war candidate. Don't latch onto the actual ones and then sort of project all that Image onto someone that doesn't match what they're saying at all. Yeah now they we did it with Bernie and the they did with Obama well and and it's happens in with politics. In general I mean on on different issues that happens with trump to when people say he's playing four s or like some of the others that trump's got trump scholar stop censorship online. And he's GONNA and it'll be won't even be like in in some issues. It won't even be what he's saying. I mean I've heard people who believe in free trade saying he's just using the tariffs to get more free trade and like all these other things that's not even what he's saying he's doing any. Listen I do. We got to wrap up. Because I'm over time and I just need people to make better deals man here libertarianism. Libertarianism better. Yeah we need very smart people to make very good deals reminded. I really really enjoyed this conversation. We're going to have to To do this again if if you're willing to because we got the I'm sure there's a lot more stuff that we could we could talk about. People have been show just on the FCC stuff all right one one cut go on your show too. I'm I'm like I will. I'm fine with that how to reach them. You know all right well. I'm glad we all right. I'm glad we were able to connect and let people know if they want to check out more of your stuff where you're still allowed to be or where they can go a look you up really I have a youtube but I have. It's sort of like ninety eight percent self. Oh censored right now. Because I don't want to risk losing it but A. N. C. report stands for Anti Neo cons right. Now we're making a film about the the new mcferrin Apollo Pennsylvania or uranium sloan for the United States to build nuclear bombs overseas. So we're working on that film if you want to pitch in and you can get all the daily stories although Oh tomorrow the next day I pry won't up Jay Fortunately a family you should go with the United States but YEP ANC report DOT COM. uh-huh got all the links and I really appreciate. You have me on the show and I love to come back. Once they're all sorted out and happy Thanksgiving everybody. Yeah well thank you very much. We'll definitely Do it again then. Happy Thanksgiving to you and to everybody listening. I that's our show for today. Thanks guys Enjoy your holidays. And we'll be back on Friday. We got Michael. Heiss from from the Libertarian Party caucus coming on Friday so that should be a fun show all right have a good one piece.

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