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"stephen brunt" Discussed on The Big Story

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on The Big Story

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on Spittin' Chiclets

Spittin' Chiclets

02:22 min | 4 months ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on Spittin' Chiclets

"Gold seat so we to go to a second on the house to sit their seats. Nobody sitting in the last ten. I and five minutes of every why people don't live in toronto. Probably don't get hit those seats around salt. Those are bunker sweets underneath Like this is greatest scandal in history world. Somebody conceived that we can sell top dollar seats for a suite. That has no view of the ring. So they go down a stairwell lawful lot. They'll get live tv and get a beer. They go down the steps to a bunker sweet. They got this nice screen attendant there. There's not bathrooms in the sweeps. But they're semi privately down. I might get on four people instead of four hundred and then you have to wait for whistle mom for the second period. So there's sustained play without a whistle. These core slobs are all backed up downstairs so deceit threat feeds but those are the platinum seeds in their caviar. Doing there wolf and even watching the guys on the ice after this week visit strata game sometimes gone. Talk of people business though. Suites are nice not enough pictures in the book tobruk. Yeah i was just looking into the middle there. I will say though. Did you pick one picture where your hair didn't look unbelievable. Come on this is jealous qualify. Thank you so much everyone. Check it out. Brian burke burks law also with stephen brunt so i did. That is going to be great. I can't wait to get my copy. I'm gonna send you my address and thank you so much for coming on. And i think for somebody who's been in the game as long as you have and had so much success on the ice the ice but also dealt with tragedy. It's going to be an incredible read. So thank you for joining the show once again guys. You guys are become alleged. Thank you may know. I've got the first three picks in the draft. But this is your third time on the spit took podcast so it's a nice constantly. Yes once again. It's called burks. Law life in hockey with stephen brown. You can buy wherever books sold. Correct burkey excellent. Good luck with everything when we join us once again. A fun conversation with that guy get great stories and if you look at for an holiday items certainly grabbed his book for hockey love and friends all right moving right along. This next.

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on Spittin' Chiclets

Spittin' Chiclets

07:28 min | 4 months ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on Spittin' Chiclets

"Burks la a life in hockey with stephen brunt thanks for joining us once again on the spitting chocolates podcast. Brian burke. How's it going. Burki are you. Were doing your toronto right now. You just said but are you doing one of these book towards you're going to pass on that they can call you. Can all virtual doing a bunch of events virtually and a lot of media stuff but there was over we. Can't you see a guy into the virtual type stuff these days breaking. You weren't frustrated all getting on with a consume. The worst part is since they were very young kids. Get out techni on everything. So i have to ask my fourteen year old daughter to fix my computer. It's embarrassing burkey did you. Did you have to wear that outfit today or do you specifically put that on. Come on our podcast. The zoom put this onto combined podcasts about uniform. Of course we'll burkey before we get into the book out. We're going to talk about the postseason a little bit overall. Did you enjoy the playoffs or what. Yeah i thought it was fantastic. I knew we were in for a treatment that less than a minute into the first gave brady shade. Ask kicked up. Yes for fast for the big hit there and i thought right out of the gate second round intensity in the planet round so i thought the league in the players association did a marvelous job and then the players delivered so these people say there should be an asterisk aqap. I agree an ask because this was harder to noon like when we want. I had written down. did you mentally. It was the toughest one to ever win under the circumstances. Yeah i do. I especially dallas it while i wait like when you lose in the finals. I remember when we won the silver medal in vancouver in two thousand ten. You're sitting on the bench. What was there. You're not thinking we had just had a great run. You're thinking we fail it. We got to watch these guys get their gold medal and we're all choking on her defeat and you don't realize probably couple years later. What an amazing feat that was to win a silver battle with a team that was picked to finish sex santic dallas. They'll realize someday. How special at ron watts right now. I'm sure they're not feeling it. Yeah i think it probably takes a little while to at least settle in. The problem was is like. I talked about losing losing in the cup finals. A how horrible it was and this was just so much worse because of what they've been through get there and still not to get the raise that trophy with tampa. I mean we with what happened the year prior and then the slow start to the year before kovin hit. Was there any. Was there a moment when when everything began again where to you. That was like all right. This team is just on stop board. I think that five overtime game. I know it's early in the playoffs but to win that game. If they lose that it's just such a different story. I think it could have been the one thing. I like is stevie is around the really good team there and then got swept and i thought julia bourgeois approached the upgrade the team with surgical precision site. He said these are the very specific needs. We have i fill 'em exactly and so he gave up a couple of first. Sean picks coleman goudreau. but they're not rentals. they're under contract. They got bigger at fast. They brought him goes the body shoddy brought in now. Patty maroon last summer brought him. Luke schenn these are all character people with a fair amount fairmont hostility. Kind of grumpy except for shatti. Those other guys all wake up john Being run and so to me. They changed their whole lot. They kept their skill set but then exchanges. Just like our team in anaheim in terms of clearly defined roles. I use quote with my players. All the time you go to the seventy and the first violin is elegant. She wears a white dress. She comes out last and she's beautiful stylish. But this guy built like me blow a tube in the back row. They don't start until we both said. Now i love it while. I was going to hop. They're going to ask you about vancouver. Do you keep a close eye on teams that you've associated with in the past and if so you know seeing them get over the hump in that first round against saint louis as an organization. Where do you see them making strides and you think that. In the next few years they could be a contender. I follow teams if that fire my ass. Thanks a lot of teams by yeah. That's a lot of work itself. And i do a radio show in makeover so i didn't follow their team closely. They've got some great pieces of they got hit harder. Free agency to brought back. Nate shelman at the end. Chris tabs are very underrated player. He played in these people. Talk a lot more about him. He's he's a shocking machine fouling killer right shot reliable hits like a great mentor really fast track quinn hughes for me and then you lose the goaltender. Then lose to foley. Nate schmidt back at the end but they were hit hard. But they've got some wonderful pieces on that chessboard. Greg by all accounts. The bubble is a huge success. But do you think there was anything that the either the league. The union got wrong that nobody wants to do a bubble again but if they had to do it over they might have done different. There's i don't think so. I'll tell you this. I'm not shy about criticizing the league. When i think something's wrong with the draft lottery to me insane just stupid in this one. I think they get straight ace and the union deserves the same same level of praise because they agreed to it all. It's not fun to be stuck in one place for that long. It's not fun and people say all day room service. Not that bad news. Being hockey players move around. That's what we do. We like to move around being a one place like that. Your family suck and a team said one all the way that was a hardship. So i don't think there's one thing we could have done better. If they tried to make it more liveable. They would have violated the bubble. They tried to bring the families in the fourteenth eight quarantine. Stop him. I don't think there's anything. They could have gone better the only thing they could have done. Better as you say okay. Further frozen for the final four. All your family's better come right now. So they can beat the quarantine in case you make another final. It'll be clear for you to be there. That's the only thing that maybe could have not but the players could have done on their own too. I've long heard you kind of talk about the draft lottery and how ridiculous it can be curious like how. How would you change at. What are the things that really drives you nuts or pisses you off for basically make you think it's foolish while it is foolish and then what what a what a new jersey just move. Are the rangers. This move up. Eleven places So when we started doing draft all pro sports. The principle is inverse order of finish so the worst team gets the best player then we had crooked owners and we had to put on a lottery or we had gm's were willing to take we had to put in a lottery. I accept the lottery but it should be the fewest number teams possible to to make the incentive to tank as low as possible so in my mind five teams the five worst teams. Do a straight lottery. And that's that no one can move up more than four places that way right and a guide like the like. The rangers were on pace regular season for like ninety points. You're picking ahead of teams that would've like detroit..

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on ESPN On Ice with Wyshynski and Kaplan Show

ESPN On Ice with Wyshynski and Kaplan Show

03:53 min | 1 year ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on ESPN On Ice with Wyshynski and Kaplan Show

"And I will watch king's ransom the thirty for thirty on the Wayne Gretzky trade. And I believe you've been very kind not saying. We're not the biggest fan of the pacing of this one and it will love it like Gretzky going to. La is so significant in the hockey landscape in pop culture in American history of hockey. And we get that flash forward at a ten minute montage and instead. It's just kind of this methodical. Look at Peter Pocklington having to make tough financial decision kind being a villain and Edmonton documentary for me. It's a lot to get into a thirty for thirty. Because like you said the POCKLINGTON stuff that they focus on is really interesting. Anytime owner is burned in effigy by his own fans very interesting the stuff where Gretzky basically transforms hockey in California and. Now he's hobnobbing with Tony Danza and sly stallone John. Yeah is is is fascinating. But then there's like that whole other aspect of this which is that the oilers won another cup without Gretzky without right the supporting cast one. So it kind of undercuts. The whole thing a little bit you don't when that's just sort of an end note of Gretzky leaving and my God. What's going to happen to the oilers? Well I want another cup with. They did and it's a really. I think it's good for the conversations with Gretzky and to look back at the internal dynamics of the relationship between Gretzky and say there and popping tin. But I've I've recommended this book before in different places and I'll do it again here. Gretzky's tears by Stephen Brunt. If you're interested in the story it does a really. It does the most thorough job I've ever read of fleshing out Gretzky's years in Los Angeles which is something that I've always been interested in but never really thought encapsulated because there was so much attention given to Gretzky's divorce in the oilers that what happened afterwards was sort of glossed over. So that's good stuff and then the most fascinating guy. The ENTIRE STORY IS BRUCE MCCONNELL. But they didn't really get into that either because McConnell was a fraud at the jail he was defrauding a bunch of banks during all this Gretzky stuff and that's also an end note. It's like it's like literally like if you watch the empire strikes back and then they put some text on the screen at the end of the movie. You're like oh by the way. Darth vader is Luke's father like those fascinating stuff up in the end note. But it's still a good thirty for thirty to check it out. That said yes. It is a great thirty for thirty but totally calls for a Michael Jordan. Style documentary Gretzky's first season in La. I agree except for the fact that I feel like maybe Michael Jordan is a bit more with academic personalities and we don't have to say it has to be ten parts and a big primetime special that was expedited because global endemic. I'm just saying. Give me an hour of television. That said if you really wanted to get into the life of Mark Messier that could be Rodman. I mean both dated Donna. So I mean right there Medicaid and Madonna. Oh Yeah I would. I mean. Emily dated with Air. Quotes was an address. Elba ESKIMO brothers. Wow that is the show for this week. Thanks to you. Kurt Oprah Heart for joining us or thank the CJ for joining us. Thanks to the shock. Look on Emilie's face as the architect of the nineteen ninety-four Stanley Cov- comes into focus for being the ladies. Man It was. Yeah Greg for semi down a rabbit hole for the next hour. Right there I hit Madonna lie. Line may become love something rather from the Chicago Tribune. Ten surprising facts about Mark Messier..

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on Spittin' Chiclets

Spittin' Chiclets

09:00 min | 1 year ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on Spittin' Chiclets

"Gang another busy Saturday in the NHL? Some big headlines going on. But let's say hi to the boys. I G Grenell like your usual homestead today I am. I am in New York City. I was supposed to be in Florida this weekend. But we hired a new Producer Viagra for chase. I couldn't leave him out to dry this week. Had to help him out. I'm a team guy. That's what I do so I yeah I'm here in New York. That's a captain's do next up the width dog Mariah Whitney. What's going on what up? What up guys. How you doing? I had a great special Saturday night. I was a birthday gift to me from my wife. We got a box at the. Bu Northeastern game was riders. First Hockey game. I and let me tell you. This kid sat there and did not stare. He did not take his his eyes. Off of the ice watched all three periods and in the intermission stare at the Zamboni. So bunch of my friends were there had a great crew. My Dad came so kind of full circle. Come and watch me play there now. Bringing Rider for games and it was actually the nineteen ninety five. Ncwa title team Anniversary twenty fifth year so I got to see Shawn Bates. We've mentioned him. He said I'll come on the pod class storyteller Medford mass and a bunch of other great guys. I ran into Chris Keller former teammates. It'll come on we lined up some interviews and I had a great. I had a great Saturday so as a pretty sweet weekend. So far solid here. Yeah he was but I didn't see him because they had like there's a bunch of alumni so yipper year per se. I played their last two months in in Moscow. They never went back to China. Once the corona virus at Yahoo GonNa get to that a little later as well Rhona Light. Yeah no shit next up. Boy Paul Biz Nasty and that. That's not Scottsdale Arizona behind you where you this weekend buddy. I'm in Florida my hold on. I'll still go there. That's not they. Tony Hassi South Beach Man. Came down here to see my girlfriend. She lives in Gainesville. But we met up here. And we're doing a nice little birthday getaway business thirty fifth birthday coming up on the eleven so we ended up going on for a Nice Sushi dinner last night and then we checked out. That club called live for the first time. I'd never been there boys. I lasted about ninety minutes. And I thank you. David Rotman Mike Kimmel from Toronto who One of the founders. I believe in some restaurants down here. Like Komodo and what's the other one? Poppy stake all guys. I don't know if you guys know who David Drummond. He's kind of like the face of nightlife in Miami has a bunch of awesome restaurants. Not about face to have No he well. He's married so he's he ain't. I'm sure his buddies are getting some awesome residuals but thanks for those guys as well as Jimmy Green up. They took care of me last night. And I just. I don't know I just will you quick to leave? Because you're on the booze because you with a girl. Is it just like kind of over the club scene? I just despite got no desire for clubs. I need my space. And if I'M GONNA DO CLUBS. I have to have my own table and a K. It's gotta be my own friends and everybody's everybody's GonNa have enough little space around them. Feel a little claustrophobic in there. Yeah a bit but it was a great. Dj was good seen. But I think I think I'm hanging them up boys. I'm like avery. I'm going to throw my skates into the Hudson. I didn't like clubs when I was club. Aides to fuck into loud too happy We got a great guest coming up a little later. Elliott Friedman One of the best hockey reporters up in Canada. We sat down with him a couple of weeks ago for a little over an hour at a great jazz. It was just after the trade deadline. So a lot of kind of trade Talk e Bug stuff so we wanted to get it out while it's still fresh but let's move over to the news in the game. Lost One of its titans on Friday. As Montreal Canadian's Legend Honore Rashad passed away at eighty four Known as the pocket rocket the younger and shorter brother of halves icon. Maurice Rocket Rashad WanNA record. Eleven cops is a player in Twenty Gel seasons with dog. I know you had stuff you wanted to share here while everyone knows about. Maurice Rashard does Henry's older brother and and I don't think enough people realize what a special player in career Henry had and I can kind of go into a lot of stuff but I wanna I shout out sports that had an unreal five minute video. I think was narrated by Stephen Brunt go check it out some Kinda just reading off some of the things that they let your let that they let you know about his life and career in that video so go check out fifteen years younger than Maurice Rashard. So you have to imagine that I mean that's like a second dad to like a best friend in a different way than most brothers are just because when when Maurice became a Canadian Henry was six years old and he went to every game sitting on his dad's lap watching his older brother and it was his dream in life to be a Montreal Canadian. And once did he think that he could play with his brother because of the age difference and sure enough he said in in this video mentions that he didn't even tell people who dreamed of playing for the Canadians because they thought people would laugh at him and tell him he's a four years to say I wanted to be a plumber grownup like the dog. But in the end he ended up dominating he led the Quebec major junior league two years in a row and scoring and his coach at the time. Who was a former? Canadians legend like elmer. Lach or something. His name is I've never heard of him but that is almost those is coaching junior. He said there's no chance you could play in the NHL. The only reason you're invited the Canadians camp and fifty five is because your brother asked us to. Well he goes there and immediately just starts. Lightning are be played wing was Yom Belva was rookie year for a little bit. But then they switched over to sander and put his brother on his wing. Five years in a row. They played together in five years. They won five Stanley Cups. The Guy ended up winning eleven as a play. That good eleven is that good. Is that get the job? Done Biz one one more Stanley Cups than than any other player did as a as a player in the history of the League with eleven. He goes on to actually have more points than his brother. Maurice Rashard he played more games. Nhl Games than any other Montreal Canadian. And I don't know if that record still stands but at the time it did and twenty seasons I mean. This guy carved out a career in in it for himself. That was a special if not better than his brothers and he didn't have that goal scoring ability but he was a wizard setting up guys with the PUCK. And the amazing thing was that Maurice Rashard. He was going to retire. I mean he had already played a long time and then his brother came on low low and he said let's stick around and do it and then they'll run. They went on was unreal so his career and what he did and I think more than anything coming into the league with the pressure of having your brother be one of the greatest to ever do it. I mean that's hard enough in itself and the guy goes onto to become a superstar in his own right just shows that it was a dream life. I mean you're older brothers star of the hometown team. And then you go on to do the same thing and get to play with them so rested peace and and They could have thoughts and prayers to all of his family members. Absolutely these guys are like the founding fathers of the game and the reason that we got the play and and and and have such nice lives. I mean especially wh- it so Rest in peace for sure and And very well set not only not only follow an icon with but in Montreal and then only being five seven as well back in nineteen fifty five. I mean he was leave five seven. That's why the nickname the pocket rocket. I guess he hated that nickname. Probably too because you know his own player but so the other stuff. I was reading like Maurice Rashard had a temper right. That guy was not and people like. Oh He's GONNA protect. His younger brother was like a son while sure shed Henry. Ricciardi got into the mix too. He wasn't afraid at all. His brother didn't need to stick up for him. So yeah three inches shorter than Maurice and he was only honored sixty pounds. Like you said so. Do It to do it at that size. Then that's crazy. We heard Eric Sanderson talk about everyone. Fighting them there was no hide. Yeah and also should note. He's good to clinches as well and sixty six and seventy one in at seventy one east could. The game tying goal as well in game seven before before scoring the game winner in game seven so the guy was money as well and my old man like you know. He had season tickets. He has such respect for the Canadians. Anytime I text them about one of these old Canadian diet like they dumbest favorite team fears but he still has that reverence for these old Canadian teams like in his voice. You can still hear it so like you guys said our condolences and sympathies. Dollar family friends. It in many fans of Andrei Reshad a legendary champion and the game or hockey Shula Move on to some more pleasant topics boys. We have some fun stuff. Mika Zibanejad unreal ties arranges franchise record five goals on Thursday lead the reds to a six five win and not over the caps that dog and trying to get in the playoffs. Not sure they're going to do it. but unreal up at the other night busy. I know we would. Texting during that during the game was pretty wild. Yeah he enters the top five as far as goals scores in the National Hockey League when he ended up coming over from Ottawa. I didn't know where this guy ceiling was but I tell you he's surpassed everybody's expectations and and I mean another guy. I guess you could throw always had in for the Hart Trophy. I mean he's been just incredible for that team unfortunately a tough loss to New Jersey last night or two nights ago when you're listening to this. But he had another one and that one I believe. He's got ten goals over his last four games in my wrong here. Maybe.

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

WHAS 840 AM

03:05 min | 1 year ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on WHAS 840 AM

"I I just the offense of line coach is all over the country yeah I just marveling at how well this group works judge Lorman should be yeah just canonized for what he's been able to do with this offense of line it's amazing so low level coming right to left to start the fourth quarter here at rainy Kroger fielder at their own thirty eight yard line with a first down Kentucky leads at thirty one thirteen rain continued to fall just a little warmer is the and then calmly the back up now to be whole behind them in the pistol then calmly gonna keep it drops it and then he's thrilled by cash Daniel picked it up on the bound to get a favorable balance many in the back of field and didn't make anything no gain second and ten level it's only thirty eight looks like they wanted to run an option to the outside just left it in there when he pulled out his dropped the data TV preserve a central bank everything you need to know about your cat's every weekend hosted by Kristy Thomas of the K. how're you Catholics dot com slash U. K. sports network for the dates and times in your area is the formation again for the cardinals to tie is left at well coming in motion left it straight ahead the whole much there at all he gets to the forty an Iranian to the big man from Augusta senior Calvin Taylor what is Stephen brunt there's just no way to run third and he good to see paschal back in there yeah minute into the fourth quarter and little just up with its third conversion on third down the last time an editor later three of nine needing yards here for their own forty two receivers split each way it's Russ is standing up to come after calmly here they come well thirty two we talked about the starting gate little like to throw deep deep drop there and could set his defensive front gave him no time to sit is speak to throw the ball down the field Kentucky is just old both lines of service today certainly on the opposite side and for the most part of the defense of loss of eight back to the thirty two getting the puck when it is back they have a good nice book hi the field at the twenty nine it's a feel good at the thirty five thirty six yard so thirty six yard punt for your return in a time out on the field twelve fifty four to play the game here in Lexington Kentucky thirty one little thirteen cats ball at the road thirty six coming left to right when we return to the U. K. sports.

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on The Big Story

The Big Story

10:42 min | 2 years ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on The Big Story

"I she is on a very short list of the greatest, Canadian athletes of all time, second. She would probably never admit she belongs on that list, or actually even discuss that list at all. Third. She has been on the field for some of the most heartbreaking defense. Any Canadian team has ever suffered through to the hip fido's, a comprehensive victory of Canada fulltime book of Canada ill, Frantz four. Finally beginning today after almost twenty years of leading perhaps the best soccer Team Canada has ever fielded Christine Sinclair has a chance to reach heights that would have been unimaginable. When she began her career Sinclair is thirty six now, she's been Canada's rock for ever, this might be her last women's World Cup. And it might be Canada's best ever chance to hoist the trophy and it might be our last chance to appreciate a woman who has never talked much never cared about stats never wind about the refs never done anything, but play, great soccer, and she is now poised to become perhaps the best ever at that task. I'm Jordan heath Rawlings. And this is the big story Canada's first game and the women's World Cup comes today against Cameroon. So we figured it was time to talk to Stephen brunt of sports net was covered these World Cups for years, Stephen start with just who is Christine Sinclair, where did she come from? What's her origin story? Well, she's from the lower mainland BC..

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Christine Sinclair (probably) wont play forever. So appreciate her now.

The Big Story

10:42 min | 2 years ago

Christine Sinclair (probably) wont play forever. So appreciate her now.

"I she is on a very short list of the greatest, Canadian athletes of all time, second. She would probably never admit she belongs on that list, or actually even discuss that list at all. Third. She has been on the field for some of the most heartbreaking defense. Any Canadian team has ever suffered through to the hip fido's, a comprehensive victory of Canada fulltime book of Canada ill, Frantz four. Finally beginning today after almost twenty years of leading perhaps the best soccer Team Canada has ever fielded Christine Sinclair has a chance to reach heights that would have been unimaginable. When she began her career Sinclair is thirty six now, she's been Canada's rock for ever, this might be her last women's World Cup. And it might be Canada's best ever chance to hoist the trophy and it might be our last chance to appreciate a woman who has never talked much never cared about stats never wind about the refs never done anything, but play, great soccer, and she is now poised to become perhaps the best ever at that task. I'm Jordan heath Rawlings. And this is the big story Canada's first game and the women's World Cup comes today against Cameroon. So we figured it was time to talk to Stephen brunt of sports net was covered these World Cups for years, Stephen start with just who is Christine Sinclair, where did she come from? What's her origin story? Well, she's from the lower mainland BC. She comes from soccer playing family her to her uncle's played professionally with the Portland at an earlier incarnation of the Portland timbers her dad played. She played as a kid, and, you know, she played other sports as well. But as a was a prodigy Ritchie cows, cap for Canada as a sixteen year old, it does astounds me how, you know, we're, we're talking about the early days of the sport in the country, like candidate didn't have a women's national team till nineteen Eighty-six. Yeah, yes. She played in the ninety five world or the ninety four World Cup. Right. Those game lake back. Then it was if people are soccer people. They will understand what I'm saying. Here's like old time, English soccer like vertical. So. Correct. Big kick, it down the field and the strongest and tallest and fittest would run underneath it, it was dominated by countries that could do that played that way. But it was also dominated by countries that put money into women's sport before other countries did, which is a pattern we've seen a lot, right? Like early success in Olympic women's rowing, for instance, was because we invested in it in nineteen nothing away from those great athletes, but we got on that bandwagon before a lot of other countries said in soccer even a lot of traditional soccer countries declined to invest in the women's game. There was a level of chauvinism in the in the soccer cultures so that, you know, the Brazil's and the Spain's and the Italy's they, they didn't do anything women's soccer, but Germany, did and Norway and Sweden did and we did to a degree. We were we were kind of early adapters in terms of women's soccer and the Americans did after title. Nine rank title nine was huge right into created opportunities for for collegiate athletes. So those were the countries that dominated early and but that was what they was a power game. You know power game of fitness game. And you know in assize game really strength game. How did Christine Sinclair make her Mark on that game on this team? When did she come to one to Candida notice her, I would think I guess the U twenty tournament gonna remember sales change. They change it from nineteen to twenty remediate offered was the tournament in Edmonton, where the golden generation, they, they got to the finals loss to the Americans, a recurring theme here, but played in front of forty thousand plus people in Edmonton to Commonwealth stadium too big TV ratings, so Kara Lang, and most Creedy and, and sink. You know, we're part of that team and his golden generation of Canadian women country embrace them in a way that it hadn't I don't think it'd embrace the soccer team male or female before we men's team that you know got the World Cup and eighty six and they won the Gold Cup and under Hoeger, but I don't think candidate had ever cared about soccer as much as they cared about that team that played in Edmonton. So that was kind of her debut for the Comanche was the most valuable player high-score most valuable player in that tournament. So, you know, and then she joined the national where she played for the national team and. After that, again, with people like Charmaine Hooper, who is a great athlete in her own, right. And the they, you know, they have a fourth place finish the World Cup people then forget that, that they, they did finish fourth, but, you know, I think what really started to put things on the map was what, what came later and end know and the evolution of the of the game and the pollution of the players will it's kind of a chicken or the egg situation because you had Christine Sinclair in his golden generation that kind of took over that team and dragged it in front of everybody watching. And then once you know that it can do good TV ratings, and people are really going to care. It becomes a lot easier to recruit talent bring on sponsors, and all the rest of it that puts you a little bit further ahead. Yeah. In parallel to that. The game is getting more sophisticated evolving, or changing in, in a way that soccer people found pleasing like I was kind of separate myself because I've covered soccer for a long time. But I you know, soccer people I was considered me an outsider. So I, I always kind of separate myself, but that the people who would kind of disdain women's football women. Soccer started to see the ball being played on the ground. More you know more of a passing game as a more sophisticated version of the game and started to kind of give it its due. So those things happen at the same time one is that. Yeah, you have golden generation of Canadian players coming through who had succeeded on stage, a very popular stage, anyway. And at the same time, you had women's soccer getting new respect, of course, you had that explosion with the Americans right where, you know, brandy Chastain and all of that. You know, it became a big deal in the United States. Yes. Also, the breakthrough from American soccer, you know, if you think about it, the US men's national team was pretty good for a long time. But what was the breakthrough for soccer in the US? It was the women you absolutely the women describe that scene because you probably, it's probably embedded in your memory of brandy Chastain. And that's the only thing I remember that time. Yeah, we scored the winning goal and, and stripped off her jersey was wearing a sports bra and had like an eight-pack ill. She's absolutely ripped. Right. Looks like I think it was it was a moment of empowerment for a whole bunch of. People. And I think for a whole bunch of young girls watching it was, I wanna be her. Yeah. I wanna play that game because it was, you know, it wasn't dainty. It was ferocious. It was competitive. It was passionate there were. And there are a lot of great things about women's soccer. Well, and in Canada. It's the women are better. They have men's team and it by an order of magnitude. We could qualify that say the pool shallower again. We were earlier that there is. We, we probably put more emphasis on what you see now is that, you know, England's good now in the Nederlands is getting good is against some of these other soccer countries are kind of saying, hang on, we'll Spain suddenly pretty good. But yeah, I think in Canada, they had the success and be, I think people did start the kind of tune into the fact that someone who might be the best player in the world play for us. So tell me about her that because you've covered her for while now what is Sinclair, like she's known, at least to me and casual observers for being pretty closed off. Oh, yeah. You mean per as a person as a person as an athlete? How, how is she what drives her she's super shy? She doesn't like doing interviews a drink press stuff. If you talk to her teammates tell you, she's not shy that she got a great sense of humor, which she does. But she just just playing that the public role. I remember once I went down to interview her when I was still the globe and mail. She was playing for the, the western New York flash. Again, you know, the leagues have come and gone. Right. But one of those down near buffalo somewhere, and they having an open workout for kids. And I was driving down from the globe. And I'd set it up through Canadian soccer to do this interview I think goes before the twenty seven World Cup. So it looks a low pressure environment is what I'm saying, and it's going to be a nice story and I got stuck in a little bit of traffic at the border. So I got there about three minutes before the interview was supposed to happen. But I was, you know, phony, people telling you, look, I'm coming, right? Look, she was in her car, and she was going to leave. She was honored. I almost had to throw myself in front of her car because she didn't want to do it. She just didn't want to do the interview, and it was, you know, as an awkward interview, and there wasn't much to it, and I've been persistent, I guess with her to try and get a little bit. And I have huge Marijn for as an athlete. So maybe that's part of it as well. But yeah, she's never going to be somebody who talks and soundbite. She's never going to be somebody who kind of thrown horn. It's just not in her. She's, you know, again, MBA seen her. She is a passionate ferocious competitor. And she does have a sense of humor, but it's hard to get past, you know, the veneer, sometimes why did you work so hard to get past that veneer? You know, I think a lot of it goes back to that twenty eleven World Cup which I'm sure we're gonna talk about. But I covered the tell me about the twenty eleven World Cup. You know, key so candidate went into Germany twenty seven World Cup is in Germany and Canada. There's a sense that candidate could be competitive in this turnament, sorta like now, you maybe none, as they maybe expectations weren't quite where they are now but they were pretty darn high. And that was the, you know, the, the moment for that golden generation of players. Right side from Carlisle, who got hurt that, that was that group this, and this was there, a moment and Canada had hired an Italian to coach the team. Caroliina Mirage, and the whole idea was that this was the country's, there's, like finishing school that she was going to teach them more sophisticated tactics and European training methods and this is gonna turn us into a footballing nation rather than soccer h nerve footballing team rather than a soccer team. And Caroline was an interesting like a character from fiction, you know, and they had this whole group of Italian trainers in the system coaches, and there was much intense talk and smoking cigarettes. And speaking of Italian, and she took them off to a training camp. They went to some hotel in, in the mountains in Italy. And we're locked off by themselves and trained and all of this, when you talk to them after the facts, you know. So it sounds like a prison camp. But it sounds nice now but it wasn't fun. But they all say the right stuff that okay, we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're way. Better way. More sophisticated. We're gonna play you know, we're we're going to our game has she is we have learned enormous amounts Mer. The opening game is against Germany in Berlin at the Olympic stadium. They know they're going to lose that game. Everybody knows he'll lose that game but they, you know, they compete and sink scores. A goal on a on a free kick. I think not a penalty free kick, but she also gets hit in the nose and breaks her nose spewing blood. And it was real was, you know in this there goes the tournament. Right. So so caroliina Marashi again, who is she was very much into intrigue in whispered conversations? I'm covering this for the globe. And for sports that we were the rights holders I was as close to any team. I think as I've ever been and there's been there. Many whispered conversations was she going to play and they wouldn't let her talk to the media, and she was. Wearing this like the mass that basketball players wherever they break their now.

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on The Big Story

The Big Story

20:37 min | 2 years ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on The Big Story

"Hey, it's Jordan, and I've podcast for you. Commons is Canada's most popular podcast about politics last season. They tried to answer the question how corrupt is Canada this time around. They're investigating our national addiction oil the currency's featuring host Arshi man is called crude. And it's about Canada's relationship with the oil industry. The good the bad the ugly and the weird you'll find Commons wherever you get your podcasts. So go check it out. I'm going to try to tell you today's story the way all probably tell it to grandkids someday. There was this guy a golfer named tiger. He was the best golfer in the world probably ever, you could argue if you wanted to, but nobody who'd watched him play would listen to you. And if that was our story, it would be a boring one, but it's not anyway, tiger was the greatest he had it all the fame money commercials endorsements beautiful wife and adorable children. But he was also a jerk. There were a lot of stories about this. He was rude to fans who wouldn't give kids high fives or sign autographs. He had his caddy yell at people who was a notoriously bad Tipper. He was a sullen guide to play with. He was robotic with the media, and none of those things mattered because he was the greatest until he wasn't just after two on Friday morning. Thirty three year old Tiger Woods. Drove out of his house alone. His car I hit a fire hydrant then a tree police after that crash. His wife left him. It turned out he'd been cheating on her with dozens of women across the country. His sponsors dropped him. Almost as fast as she. Did Ben details of his affairs came out, and they were humiliating. I want to say to each of you simply and directly. I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior. I engaged in his knee gave out and then his back and even when he felt good enough to play golf. He was bad at it. And then despite surgeries his backup worse and worse until he could barely sit down without pain. He needed a spinal fusion surgery he had it just so he would be able to play with his children in his old age. He said but afterwards he felt better. So about two years ago, he picked up a club and tried to play again, and he could and he started getting better at it on the rest. Well, we'll tell you the rest, but you probably know how this ends. Then he doubted we'd ever see it. But here it is. Turn to glory. So it's Tiger Woods. Now. Redeemed? What is it about him that compels so many of us to root for him despite his flaws? What does the way we cheer for tiger tell us, but the kind of stories that were drawn to and about the kind of heroes. We prefer. I'm jordan. He's rawlings. And this is the big story. Stephen Brent from sports net is one of our favorite guests to talk to you. Whenever sports gets bigger than the games on the field. Why did everybody I know even with people on my production team who don't care about sports watch golf on Sunday? Well, let's see because the greatest golfer of all time came back under what seemed like impossible circumstances in rows right to the top of the sport in a after being written off for really good reasons over the last several years, especially over the last five or six years because he because Tiger Woods is a ground-breaking figure culturally. The people who don't know the wouldn't know Jordan Spieth of walked up their driveway know, who he is the he's he's an icon and a groundbreaker. So we has significance beyond the game. He plays. And because we all love a good redemption story, whether it's true or not we all want to believe that if you turn your life around if you do the right things instead of the wrong things if you follow the rules. You will be rewarded somehow in the cosmic sense. And for a lot of people. I think that's what it felt like I I'm not sure if the greatest I'm trying to think is this. Latest comeback story in sports history. That's a big one. Right. And I have a personal bias on that. Because I saw George Foreman. When the heavyweight championship at age forty six having been away for eleven years, and then come back as a big fat guy had people laugh Ataman lose nine rounds of a fight Nakagawa the tenth. So that was pretty good. But this that probably just me, but otherwise yet may potentially the greatest comeback story in the history of sport, a nostalgia moment for some people. I yeah, I get creeped out thinking of nineties style. Just somebody my age at doesn't nineties is like yesterday. But there's it's an established a moment, you know, this kind of the big three right there. Right. So within the sport historical greatest of all time, and the redemption narrative, and the and the style jet for a certain generation who remember remember when way way back in those nineteen nineties tell me about that. Because that was something that everybody was talking about right after he won is that moment twenty something years ago. Now when the world saw Tiger Woods for the first time. Do you? Remember the first time you saw Tiger Woods. That's good. I know not specifically. I certainly remember the first master's I remember talking about him in the US amateur. I remember him being out. You know, what I know? I take that back. You know, when I saw him the first time, I was at home as a teenager, a young teenager. Maybe not even a teenager yet. And after school. My parents watched the Mike Douglas show, which was a talk show that was on every day like five o'clock in the afternoon, and that's the famous show where they were L. Whereas whereas all man brought him out as a six year old and he had calls. I saw that show. Do you remember when Tiger Woods became I guess the Tiger Woods that we talk about? When we talk about the beginning of this story. When is lapping the field at the masters. I'm one of those moments when he just did something that when he seemed on another planet when he seemed different from all of the rest when he separated himself and that puts him on a very short list with Jordan and alley and what was it like watching him in the late nineties and early two thousands. Well, the guy so I'm not a golf guy. I have to. So is this I read like, I quit playing golf is fourteen. I walked off the course on the second hole. I hated hated the people here that the clothing, I did everything. So I just laughed. I literally just walked off in the middle of the game. And that's why we're talking you. Because this story is golf, so I hate golf and everything about it. But no, he was he was like a he was a superman, right? He was this. And and again, the nontraditional nature in terms of golf the whitest of sports. Yeah. Those days more so than now. But the idea that you could be, you know, someone other than a rich white kid, and and take on the sports or the way they're with Williams sisters and tennis the same that you could you could kind of just going to throw this back through all of that back in people's faces planned courses that were segregated up. You know within my lifetime. Yeah. There were courses that I remember remember the commercial? I think that Nike did about that. He was the first black person to ever play on some of these courses that he'd been playing. Yeah. I do remember that. And that was you know, again, that's a very so you felt like this was righteous to that that he was kicking down those doors and breaking those barriers and thumbing. Knows that the racist and the racist traditions and golf news, you know, total package now that that said the other side of them was completely unknowable. You know, we saw him. He was again public use a public figure, and he's a six year old to a degree. And he was kind of a brand Ike on it was like, Jordan. He was universal. Right. You could you could show that picture in any continent on earth and people say, oh, that's him. But he was impenetrable. He still is I have no idea who that guy is I really don't you know, has left people try to figure it out. And a lot of very fine writers have taken a crack at it. But I have no idea who what's inside them. Do you think we know him better now than we did ten twelve years ago? I think we would like to think we do again, I think under pretending that we know these people is important to us because it gives meaning to something that's otherwise meaningless which guy just put myself out of out of a job here. But you know, it doesn't really matter this stuff. Right. It doesn't. It's funny. You're like putting a little white ball and a hauler Gorna touchdown or scoring a winning goal and overtime and hockey game. Then add up a whole lot. You know, it doesn't even add up to what your doesn't add up art adds up to you know, with art. You can say the the art is the is what's important. So we will forgive people when number one you don't need to know the personality of the person producing yard you. Appreciate the art as a separate thing from them. And number two, you forgive them their sins. Right. Doesn't matter miles Davis horrible person. Right. Like one of the worst people ever, but produced sublime transcendent, revolutionary, art. And that's enough. You don't have to care about him. But but fleet was that's the thing. It's different. Because this no one's I. Yeah. I know it's you can argue make the argument that it's art, but you know, games come and goes Gore's, come and go somebody wins somebody loses. Like I've been doing. I've been writing about this stuff for a long time. It it. It doesn't add up to a la- beans, but if we can give it meaning, you know, if you can kind of imbue it with meeting and say, there's a human lesson here. And there's a human involved in this. Then I think it kinda justifies it. So I think that's part of we want to turn this into a parable. We wanna turn sports into a parable. That's how we understand the world is, you know, through parable as someone who. Who tries to do that and turn sports into those lessons for us. What did you think when I guess when Tigers false started when the news broke of the car crash and the details of that came out any stepped away? I you know, I felt like Klay like the rest of us. You know, it was it was interesting because it was kind of a flash of humanity in there he'd been so packaged and so protected in so manufactured, and, you know, both as a player, you know, by his father, and then certainly by Nike and everybody else who were in the image business image management business to to to be around tiger. I was a couple of times golf tournaments. And you know, there's no, you know, sense of what was behind this thing. And so, you know, I think that there is well, it's what the gossip industries built on right that they're kind of the Makarius thrill of oh, they're like us, aren't they? They're just like us. As a real under the Nike. Yeah. But especially on a flawed Cuban, right? So yeah, he may be rich, and he may be handsome, and he may be may have this beautiful wife. And but really he's like, you know, the the bad guy down the block, you not like you because you would never know that he was like the bad guy down the block. He has flaws. He's he's he's human in a so, but I I think there's a little bit of glee that goes without sometimes kinda, you know, the the whole shot and Freud thing, right? That you're you're you. I think a lot of people kind of were excited about it. You know, in some ways and said there, you go, you know, you may have thought you were something else. But here's what you really are. But I think it would it mostly revealed was a guy who I again, I'm not going to I wouldn't try and put a framework aunt and say, he was you know, all about golf and then never developed the other dimensions of his humanity. I have no idea. Like, I I don't know who the guy is. I don't pretend. But I think the impulse there is to say, yeah, he's he's a he's he's a flawed human being like the rest of us. And again weirdly to take some satisfaction from it. Well, there is that narrative that we probably like to put on. Sports stars because they're bigger and faster and better and richer than us that they are missing out on an essential part of humanity because they had to focus on this game since they were three years old. And they missed the whole rich tapestry of life that we got. Yes. No. And that's a great point. Right. That is a great point that, you know, the those character lessons you learned by being a really crappy little league player, right? For instance, or how to sit on a bench or being dumped by various girlfriends or ignored by others or just understanding failure that these guys were believed they were impervious to it. But in fact, you know, everybody gets their come up at some point. But again, that's that's kind of a religious theme. Isn't it? It really is. Yeah. Well, it's the it's the new idea of the human experience. Right. And that we all kind of go through the worst valleys in our lives. And it's what comes after that makes it worthwhile. Theoretically, you're radically. Yeah. Theoretically, or you know, it could be just all pointless, which would be another another more bleak way to look at it. We'll how unlikely was the next peak after that Val. Because it wasn't just the personal life scandal. It was like I mean you cover lots of athletes who try to come back from Steph. If I asked you five years ago, Steven what's the chance that I see? Tiger Woods win another green jacket snow slim two years ago. Right. Look, it's not about and it's not about the personal life stuff in this sense. Because look he was quite capable of winning golf tournaments while his personal life was apparently you're Radyr chaotic he managed to keep those things separate as when it was the physical stuff. It's one is back when you know, this guy who could barely bender bent over to pick something up off the floor two years ago the back. You can't swing a golf club with with that. You know, I think physically that idea that no matter how hard he worked his body at broken. And that's you know, way that it was not it did not appear to be able. So he could try as hard as he wanted to and he can live as clean life as you want to do and all of those things, but it didn't matter because this machine was broken. So I I don't think anybody hearing those stories from twenty sixteen twenty seventeen about his back kind of whispers because. It wasn't very public thought. You know this. No, there's no chance right? He can't go out there and compete. We can week out. And then he kind of comes back, I guess about a little over a year ago now and starts playing golf and laying. All right. And even then I don't know about you. But it was like watching an older athlete play out his years with some semblance of what he used to be. But not the same person, certainly the British the British Open right in the open championship. Right. Where you come thought. You know, he's he's not that far off and it's not like, but it's a different year. Right. It's a different vibe was a different vibe in at the masters because you know, the the old vibe is the, you know, I'm going to I'm going to destroy you. I'm going to destroy the golf course, which is what really I'm going to destroy the rest of you in this tournament. And that kind of Uber confidence that he had. I thought the most interesting thing watching that last round was watching him play the eighteenth hole, so carefully so super carefully. Right. Because you know, again, I would have been it would have been just insane you up there and hit a driver at that point, you know, because God knows and and but just. Kind of watching him play a really safe bogey to win that tournament. That's that's not in some ways. That's the anti-tiger. Right. It's just but it was it was smart. It was the right thing to do. And really the way he won that the way you try in that last round was by being kind of dog it and watching and consistent and then watching other people fail around him. It wasn't like he just sees them by the throat they had to fail. So that's a little different. If we're going to do the metaphor thing. Again, he humbled himself in front of the eighteenth hole. And is that can we read into that anything about his new life? I mean, a lot of people talked even before this tournament about how he just wanted to win for his children. Right. And he wanted his kids to see daddy win. And that's not the old tiger. Yeah. And who knows who knows who knows this guy enough to actually say that. I have no idea. I think he probably likes being tiger. Yeah. And I thought the and the chance to be tiger one more time at forty-three. That'd be pretty cool. Right. That'd that'd be an yes, it'd be great to have it. Do it in front of your children? Who'd never really got to experience it in to shut up the nose of everybody who ever said anything about you, there'd be a lot of things that you would take satisfaction from. But again, this is a guy who has programmed to be that that thing that character that kind of golf playing robot from the time he was a toddler, and you know to have that. It's right Thompsons got a new book about kind of greatest the kind of the the nature of some of the greatest of all time athletes him Jordan criminal for the other two are, but is his take on tiger is among his takes on tiger. Now, he's a great writer of golf and a Greg. I was around the sport is you know, that he thinks tiger hated the sport that whole first phase that he he was incredibly good at it and hated every minute of it because it had been forced and imposed upon him. So again, if I'm going to play amateur shrink here, I could talk about them being liberated in this second half and doing it for himself and for his own reasons rather than someone else's reasons and not having the daddy figure hovering over in them and being the daddy himself. And but like now, I'm a sports I'm being a sports writer here. Just extrapol-. I saw that column come into view. I just don't know if it's true, right? I honestly don't I have no idea. I I've no idea we know what lies in his soul. But I don't have any idea. What lies in most people souls? Right. It's we, but we go seeking it. We go seeking that story. Yeah. We're trying to find the meaning we're trying to find the meaning. Yeah. It's and you know, and then tomorrow, we'll try and find the meaning and something else. But this one looked the one thing as a sports writer sports writers people. I was asked to do cheer. We cheer for stories. Yeah. I've been lots of press boxes. Lots of press rooms everybody. Cheers for the story. Everybody got what they were cheering for and you'll end fan through the really that's what fans want you wanna. Yeah. You support your team and you support the uniform. But man, there's nothing like a story is there. Well, here's the question. Then how come I was and probably you were certainly millions and millions of people were cheering so hard for a guy who objectively from the little that we do know about him, isn't that great guy at least hasn't been and cheering form as a huge underdog went objectively. He's one more majors than anybody. But one person and he's one hundreds of millions of dollars because we're flexible. We as a species are very flexible, I wanna feel like we shoot for a real underdog. But we can you know, you can turn it. You know, think about watching the March madness if you have no real rooting interest. And so there's two schools on there. You have no idea who they are. You have no idea who those players are. But you can construct something around that game where when you know, east west North Dakota state beat somebody you go. That's the greatest thing I've ever seen your route informant that basket goes in. And then you go onto the next thing we we do construct stuff like that. And you know, he's like that the idea of the fightback that's really fight back from adversity fight back against the impossible. And the character stuff as I said, it's tricky we could because sport has been a place where we've confused being good at something having great motor skills or winning the genetic lottery, or, you know, working hard or all this up at everybody works hard. Right. We we do confuse I with character. Sometimes those things are blurred might that. You know that he's a character guy. You know? That's that's why that's why he succeeded. Not because you know, he was born this way. A or had some advantages or because there's something else inside. We got we go for that. And a lot of time and the flip side of his we're we're quite willing to ignore the opposite with where somebody could be like Michael Jordan's. Not a nice guy. Right. There's not really any suggestion. That Michael Jordan's a nice go. No there's like with tiger. There's plenty of stories to the contract. And you know, Allie was a terrible husband and a crappy fodder by and large. Now, there's also a political social components rally. So that's you know, it's a little bit different. But as I was saying before about, you know, the separating the art from the artist you can do that with our, you know, Pablo Picasso is bad guy. Right. Really bad guy. But it didn't stop anyone from treating him as Picasso during his work that way. Well, you don't have to cheer for Picasso. You don't and you can see you know, it. It gets tricky with the, you know, the Woody Allens of the world, you know, it gets it gets into some dicey territory there. Maybe I'm not sure anybody's going to listen to a Bill Cosby monologue the same way anymore. But but sport, the two things are connected. The two things are connected, and we'd like to you know, we want to kind of link those two things. Say this guy triumphed or this woman triumphed. Because a yes, they were very compact because they worked harder because they had more of that grit and character in, you know, Royal jelly, we we really we seek that. And I'm not saying, it's not true. But I think it's more that we needed to be true. Or we want it to be true sometime like it's a chicken or the egg did tiger win again because he became a better person or because he's winning again. Do we just think he became a better person Ingo? Yeah. And his backup better. Yeah. That to actually could swing a golf club dad like he may he may be a great guy now and totally, you know, Saint Paul on the road to Damascus had a moment where hang on when everything's clear down. And I'm not going to do all those terrible things anymore or maybe just got healthy. I don't know. We'll never know. But the, but the, but the former is way more compelling than the lab. Thanks, Steven bye. Stephen Brennan from sports net hates golf, but loves narrative that was the big story for more from us. 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Stephen Brunt on Tiger Woods: What kind of heroes do we want?

The Big Story

19:23 min | 2 years ago

Stephen Brunt on Tiger Woods: What kind of heroes do we want?

"Hey, it's Jordan, and I've podcast for you. Commons is Canada's most popular podcast about politics last season. They tried to answer the question how corrupt is Canada this time around. They're investigating our national addiction oil the currency's featuring host Arshi man is called crude. And it's about Canada's relationship with the oil industry. The good the bad the ugly and the weird you'll find Commons wherever you get your podcasts. So go check it out. I'm going to try to tell you today's story the way all probably tell it to grandkids someday. There was this guy a golfer named tiger. He was the best golfer in the world probably ever, you could argue if you wanted to, but nobody who'd watched him play would listen to you. And if that was our story, it would be a boring one, but it's not anyway, tiger was the greatest he had it all the fame money commercials endorsements beautiful wife and adorable children. But he was also a jerk. There were a lot of stories about this. He was rude to fans who wouldn't give kids high fives or sign autographs. He had his caddy yell at people who was a notoriously bad Tipper. He was a sullen guide to play with. He was robotic with the media, and none of those things mattered because he was the greatest until he wasn't just after two on Friday morning. Thirty three year old Tiger Woods. Drove out of his house alone. His car I hit a fire hydrant then a tree police after that crash. His wife left him. It turned out he'd been cheating on her with dozens of women across the country. His sponsors dropped him. Almost as fast as she. Did Ben details of his affairs came out, and they were humiliating. I want to say to each of you simply and directly. I am deeply sorry for my irresponsible and selfish behavior. I engaged in his knee gave out and then his back and even when he felt good enough to play golf. He was bad at it. And then despite surgeries his backup worse and worse until he could barely sit down without pain. He needed a spinal fusion surgery he had it just so he would be able to play with his children in his old age. He said but afterwards he felt better. So about two years ago, he picked up a club and tried to play again, and he could and he started getting better at it on the rest. Well, we'll tell you the rest, but you probably know how this ends. Then he doubted we'd ever see it. But here it is. Turn to glory. So it's Tiger Woods. Now. Redeemed? What is it about him that compels so many of us to root for him despite his flaws? What does the way we cheer for tiger tell us, but the kind of stories that were drawn to and about the kind of heroes. We prefer. I'm jordan. He's rawlings. And this is the big story. Stephen Brent from sports net is one of our favorite guests to talk to you. Whenever sports gets bigger than the games on the field. Why did everybody I know even with people on my production team who don't care about sports watch golf on Sunday? Well, let's see because the greatest golfer of all time came back under what seemed like impossible circumstances in rows right to the top of the sport in a after being written off for really good reasons over the last several years, especially over the last five or six years because he because Tiger Woods is a ground-breaking figure culturally. The people who don't know the wouldn't know Jordan Spieth of walked up their driveway know, who he is the he's he's an icon and a groundbreaker. So we has significance beyond the game. He plays. And because we all love a good redemption story, whether it's true or not we all want to believe that if you turn your life around if you do the right things instead of the wrong things if you follow the rules. You will be rewarded somehow in the cosmic sense. And for a lot of people. I think that's what it felt like I I'm not sure if the greatest I'm trying to think is this. Latest comeback story in sports history. That's a big one. Right. And I have a personal bias on that. Because I saw George Foreman. When the heavyweight championship at age forty six having been away for eleven years, and then come back as a big fat guy had people laugh Ataman lose nine rounds of a fight Nakagawa the tenth. So that was pretty good. But this that probably just me, but otherwise yet may potentially the greatest comeback story in the history of sport, a nostalgia moment for some people. I yeah, I get creeped out thinking of nineties style. Just somebody my age at doesn't nineties is like yesterday. But there's it's an established a moment, you know, this kind of the big three right there. Right. So within the sport historical greatest of all time, and the redemption narrative, and the and the style jet for a certain generation who remember remember when way way back in those nineteen nineties tell me about that. Because that was something that everybody was talking about right after he won is that moment twenty something years ago. Now when the world saw Tiger Woods for the first time. Do you? Remember the first time you saw Tiger Woods. That's good. I know not specifically. I certainly remember the first master's I remember talking about him in the US amateur. I remember him being out. You know, what I know? I take that back. You know, when I saw him the first time, I was at home as a teenager, a young teenager. Maybe not even a teenager yet. And after school. My parents watched the Mike Douglas show, which was a talk show that was on every day like five o'clock in the afternoon, and that's the famous show where they were L. Whereas whereas all man brought him out as a six year old and he had calls. I saw that show. Do you remember when Tiger Woods became I guess the Tiger Woods that we talk about? When we talk about the beginning of this story. When is lapping the field at the masters. I'm one of those moments when he just did something that when he seemed on another planet when he seemed different from all of the rest when he separated himself and that puts him on a very short list with Jordan and alley and what was it like watching him in the late nineties and early two thousands. Well, the guy so I'm not a golf guy. I have to. So is this I read like, I quit playing golf is fourteen. I walked off the course on the second hole. I hated hated the people here that the clothing, I did everything. So I just laughed. I literally just walked off in the middle of the game. And that's why we're talking you. Because this story is golf, so I hate golf and everything about it. But no, he was he was like a he was a superman, right? He was this. And and again, the nontraditional nature in terms of golf the whitest of sports. Yeah. Those days more so than now. But the idea that you could be, you know, someone other than a rich white kid, and and take on the sports or the way they're with Williams sisters and tennis the same that you could you could kind of just going to throw this back through all of that back in people's faces planned courses that were segregated up. You know within my lifetime. Yeah. There were courses that I remember remember the commercial? I think that Nike did about that. He was the first black person to ever play on some of these courses that he'd been playing. Yeah. I do remember that. And that was you know, again, that's a very so you felt like this was righteous to that that he was kicking down those doors and breaking those barriers and thumbing. Knows that the racist and the racist traditions and golf news, you know, total package now that that said the other side of them was completely unknowable. You know, we saw him. He was again public use a public figure, and he's a six year old to a degree. And he was kind of a brand Ike on it was like, Jordan. He was universal. Right. You could you could show that picture in any continent on earth and people say, oh, that's him. But he was impenetrable. He still is I have no idea who that guy is I really don't you know, has left people try to figure it out. And a lot of very fine writers have taken a crack at it. But I have no idea who what's inside them. Do you think we know him better now than we did ten twelve years ago? I think we would like to think we do again, I think under pretending that we know these people is important to us because it gives meaning to something that's otherwise meaningless which guy just put myself out of out of a job here. But you know, it doesn't really matter this stuff. Right. It doesn't. It's funny. You're like putting a little white ball and a hauler Gorna touchdown or scoring a winning goal and overtime and hockey game. Then add up a whole lot. You know, it doesn't even add up to what your doesn't add up art adds up to you know, with art. You can say the the art is the is what's important. So we will forgive people when number one you don't need to know the personality of the person producing yard you. Appreciate the art as a separate thing from them. And number two, you forgive them their sins. Right. Doesn't matter miles Davis horrible person. Right. Like one of the worst people ever, but produced sublime transcendent, revolutionary, art. And that's enough. You don't have to care about him. But but fleet was that's the thing. It's different. Because this no one's I. Yeah. I know it's you can argue make the argument that it's art, but you know, games come and goes Gore's, come and go somebody wins somebody loses. Like I've been doing. I've been writing about this stuff for a long time. It it. It doesn't add up to a la- beans, but if we can give it meaning, you know, if you can kind of imbue it with meeting and say, there's a human lesson here. And there's a human involved in this. Then I think it kinda justifies it. So I think that's part of we want to turn this into a parable. We wanna turn sports into a parable. That's how we understand the world is, you know, through parable as someone who. Who tries to do that and turn sports into those lessons for us. What did you think when I guess when Tigers false started when the news broke of the car crash and the details of that came out any stepped away? I you know, I felt like Klay like the rest of us. You know, it was it was interesting because it was kind of a flash of humanity in there he'd been so packaged and so protected in so manufactured, and, you know, both as a player, you know, by his father, and then certainly by Nike and everybody else who were in the image business image management business to to to be around tiger. I was a couple of times golf tournaments. And you know, there's no, you know, sense of what was behind this thing. And so, you know, I think that there is well, it's what the gossip industries built on right that they're kind of the Makarius thrill of oh, they're like us, aren't they? They're just like us. As a real under the Nike. Yeah. But especially on a flawed Cuban, right? So yeah, he may be rich, and he may be handsome, and he may be may have this beautiful wife. And but really he's like, you know, the the bad guy down the block, you not like you because you would never know that he was like the bad guy down the block. He has flaws. He's he's he's human in a so, but I I think there's a little bit of glee that goes without sometimes kinda, you know, the the whole shot and Freud thing, right? That you're you're you. I think a lot of people kind of were excited about it. You know, in some ways and said there, you go, you know, you may have thought you were something else. But here's what you really are. But I think it would it mostly revealed was a guy who I again, I'm not going to I wouldn't try and put a framework aunt and say, he was you know, all about golf and then never developed the other dimensions of his humanity. I have no idea. Like, I I don't know who the guy is. I don't pretend. But I think the impulse there is to say, yeah, he's he's a he's he's a flawed human being like the rest of us. And again weirdly to take some satisfaction from it. Well, there is that narrative that we probably like to put on. Sports stars because they're bigger and faster and better and richer than us that they are missing out on an essential part of humanity because they had to focus on this game since they were three years old. And they missed the whole rich tapestry of life that we got. Yes. No. And that's a great point. Right. That is a great point that, you know, the those character lessons you learned by being a really crappy little league player, right? For instance, or how to sit on a bench or being dumped by various girlfriends or ignored by others or just understanding failure that these guys were believed they were impervious to it. But in fact, you know, everybody gets their come up at some point. But again, that's that's kind of a religious theme. Isn't it? It really is. Yeah. Well, it's the it's the new idea of the human experience. Right. And that we all kind of go through the worst valleys in our lives. And it's what comes after that makes it worthwhile. Theoretically, you're radically. Yeah. Theoretically, or you know, it could be just all pointless, which would be another another more bleak way to look at it. We'll how unlikely was the next peak after that Val. Because it wasn't just the personal life scandal. It was like I mean you cover lots of athletes who try to come back from Steph. If I asked you five years ago, Steven what's the chance that I see? Tiger Woods win another green jacket snow slim two years ago. Right. Look, it's not about and it's not about the personal life stuff in this sense. Because look he was quite capable of winning golf tournaments while his personal life was apparently you're Radyr chaotic he managed to keep those things separate as when it was the physical stuff. It's one is back when you know, this guy who could barely bender bent over to pick something up off the floor two years ago the back. You can't swing a golf club with with that. You know, I think physically that idea that no matter how hard he worked his body at broken. And that's you know, way that it was not it did not appear to be able. So he could try as hard as he wanted to and he can live as clean life as you want to do and all of those things, but it didn't matter because this machine was broken. So I I don't think anybody hearing those stories from twenty sixteen twenty seventeen about his back kind of whispers because. It wasn't very public thought. You know this. No, there's no chance right? He can't go out there and compete. We can week out. And then he kind of comes back, I guess about a little over a year ago now and starts playing golf and laying. All right. And even then I don't know about you. But it was like watching an older athlete play out his years with some semblance of what he used to be. But not the same person, certainly the British the British Open right in the open championship. Right. Where you come thought. You know, he's he's not that far off and it's not like, but it's a different year. Right. It's a different vibe was a different vibe in at the masters because you know, the the old vibe is the, you know, I'm going to I'm going to destroy you. I'm going to destroy the golf course, which is what really I'm going to destroy the rest of you in this tournament. And that kind of Uber confidence that he had. I thought the most interesting thing watching that last round was watching him play the eighteenth hole, so carefully so super carefully. Right. Because you know, again, I would have been it would have been just insane you up there and hit a driver at that point, you know, because God knows and and but just. Kind of watching him play a really safe bogey to win that tournament. That's that's not in some ways. That's the anti-tiger. Right. It's just but it was it was smart. It was the right thing to do. And really the way he won that the way you try in that last round was by being kind of dog it and watching and consistent and then watching other people fail around him. It wasn't like he just sees them by the throat they had to fail. So that's a little different. If we're going to do the metaphor thing. Again, he humbled himself in front of the eighteenth hole. And is that can we read into that anything about his new life? I mean, a lot of people talked even before this tournament about how he just wanted to win for his children. Right. And he wanted his kids to see daddy win. And that's not the old tiger. Yeah. And who knows who knows who knows this guy enough to actually say that. I have no idea. I think he probably likes being tiger. Yeah. And I thought the and the chance to be tiger one more time at forty-three. That'd be pretty cool. Right. That'd that'd be an yes, it'd be great to have it. Do it in front of your children? Who'd never really got to experience it in to shut up the nose of everybody who ever said anything about you, there'd be a lot of things that you would take satisfaction from. But again, this is a guy who has programmed to be that that thing that character that kind of golf playing robot from the time he was a toddler, and you know to have that. It's right Thompsons got a new book about kind of greatest the kind of the the nature of some of the greatest of all time athletes him Jordan criminal for the other two are, but is his take on tiger is among his takes on tiger. Now, he's a great writer of golf and a Greg. I was around the sport is you know, that he thinks tiger hated the sport that whole first phase that he he was incredibly good at it and hated every minute of it because it had been forced and imposed upon him. So again, if I'm going to play amateur shrink here, I could talk about them being liberated in this second half and doing it for himself and for his own reasons rather than someone else's reasons and not having the daddy figure hovering over in them and being the daddy himself. And but like now, I'm a sports I'm being a sports writer here. Just extrapol-. I saw that column come into view. I just don't know if it's true, right? I honestly don't I have no idea. I I've no idea we know what lies in his soul. But I don't have any idea. What lies in most people souls? Right. It's we, but we go seeking it. We go seeking that story. Yeah. We're trying to find the meaning we're trying to find the meaning. Yeah. It's and you know, and then tomorrow, we'll try and find the meaning and something else. But this one looked the one thing as a sports writer sports writers people. I was asked to do cheer. We cheer for stories. Yeah. I've been lots of press boxes. Lots of press rooms everybody. Cheers for the story. Everybody got what they were cheering for and you'll end fan through the really that's what fans want you wanna. Yeah. You support your team and you support the uniform. But man, there's nothing like a story is there. Well, here's the question. Then how come I was and probably you were certainly millions and millions of people were cheering so hard for a guy who objectively from the little that we do know about him, isn't that great guy at least hasn't been and cheering form as a huge underdog went objectively. He's one more majors than anybody. But one person and he's one hundreds of millions of dollars because we're flexible. We as a species are very flexible, I wanna feel like we shoot for a real underdog. But we can you know, you can turn it. You know, think about watching the March madness if you have no real rooting interest. And so there's two schools on there. You have no idea who they are. You have no idea who those players are. But you can construct something around that game where when you know, east west North Dakota state beat somebody you go. That's the greatest thing I've ever seen your route informant that basket goes in. And then you go onto the next thing we we do construct stuff like that. And you know, he's like that the idea of the fightback that's really fight back from adversity fight back against the impossible. And the character stuff as I said, it's tricky we could because sport has been a place where we've confused being good at something having great motor skills or winning the genetic lottery, or, you know, working hard or all this up at everybody works hard. Right. We we do confuse I with character. Sometimes those things are blurred might that. You know that he's a character guy. You know? That's that's why that's why he succeeded. Not because you know, he was born this way. A or had some advantages or because there's something else inside. We got we go for that. And a lot of time and the flip side of his we're we're quite willing to ignore the opposite with where somebody could be like Michael Jordan's. Not a nice guy. Right. There's not really any suggestion. That Michael Jordan's a nice go. No there's like with tiger. There's plenty of stories to the contract. And you know, Allie was a terrible husband and a crappy fodder by and large. Now, there's also a political social components rally. So that's you know, it's a little bit different. But as I was saying before about, you know, the separating the art from the artist you can do that with our, you know, Pablo Picasso is bad guy. Right. Really bad guy. But it didn't stop anyone from treating him as Picasso during his work that way. Well, you don't have to cheer for Picasso. You don't and you can see you know, it. It gets tricky with the, you know, the Woody Allens of the world, you know, it gets it gets into some dicey territory there. Maybe I'm not sure anybody's going to listen to a Bill Cosby monologue the same way anymore. But but sport, the two things are connected. The two things are connected, and we'd like to you know, we want to kind of link those two things. Say this guy triumphed or this woman triumphed. Because a yes, they were very compact because they worked harder because they had more of that grit and character in, you know, Royal jelly, we we really we seek that. And I'm not saying, it's not true. But I think it's more that we needed to be true. Or we want it to be true sometime like it's a chicken or the egg did tiger win again because he became a better person or because he's winning again. Do we just think he became a better person Ingo? Yeah. And his backup better. Yeah. That to actually could swing a golf club dad like he may he may be a great guy now and totally, you know, Saint Paul on the road to Damascus had a moment where hang on when everything's clear down. And I'm not going to do all those terrible things anymore or maybe just got healthy. I don't know. We'll never know. But the, but the, but the former is way more compelling than the lab. Thanks, Steven bye. Stephen Brennan from sports net hates golf, but loves narrative that was the big story for more from us. 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"stephen brunt" Discussed on The Big Story

The Big Story

05:38 min | 2 years ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on The Big Story

"Attachment. They seem too crazy for a long time. Yeah. I think what happened to is the anger kind of drove them for a while. Because the Expos became the Washington nationals. They were pretty good. You know, they they're another team that was good enough to win a World Series. It just didn't work out for them assuming they never come back, which now seems be what's the indelible memory baseball in Montreal? Oh for me. I mean, I wasn't there for the great teams of the eighty. So I I wasn't there when Rick Monday hit hit. Rick Monday, hit hit his home run. You know? Most of my memories are kind of about the people the players in cliff Floyd Rondell white Dennis Martinez. I covered. Dennis Martinez is perfect game at Dodger Stadium that was pretty interesting. But my memory is that ninety four team and the major league baseball players went on strike actually the twenty fifth anniversary of the baseball strike this year. It is August eleventh Ragas twelfth, I don't know the official date. That's pretty good off the top of your head. I remember August eleventh. Last game the Expos played they were in first place by a mile now, we can have a debate as to whether or not they would have won the World Series at near New York. Yankees are pretty good. But the Expos they had it all they had a great closer. They had a great. Oh field. A great starting pitching me. And they were the best team in baseball. I remember game in Pittsburgh. It was going to be the final game before the players took a vote. It was like being in a morgue and having somebody. I don't know have a garden party at a morgue almost because it's baseball. Boy, the Expos are good. But there may not be it may not matter in another in another week. It may not matter because the players will go on strike, and I remember that game. And I always remember that somebody had set up a platform in the Expos clubhouse after the game. Because the news was going to be. All right. This could be the last baseball game and Ken singleton longtime broadcaster covered the Expos. I remember, you know, we were down there after the game. And the players are players. Weren't you weren't in a very good mood. They knew they had a great team. They knew that. There was a chance of season's going to be over in our members single looking at me and saying. You know, what the only time I've been in a room in addressing room where there's been like a platform up. There is when you're celebrating something, you know, you won the pennant won the World Series. People are pouring champagne, it's like set up a platform to basically talk about something that could be really really bad. And I just I remember, and I took that that flight back. I took the Expos charter back. I just remember the sense of you know, God this can't be over. We'd seen a couple of weeks earlier Monday afternoon. The Atlanta Braves had always been the thorn in the Expos side. They played a game against the Expos and a Monday afternoon a much out. The place was jammed cliff Floyd had a home run off of Greg Maddux. Just you know, what Jose Batista hit his home? Run in Toronto did the backflip that was loud that was almost as loud as Olympic stadium. Was that day? I mean that place shook and Olympic stadium. That was scary because when Olympic stadium shut there is a sixty percent chance concrete was gonna fall. So those are the that's the remembrance. I have just how good that team was and just the sense of loss. The next day. Hey when baseball went on strike, and then of course, you start thinking. Okay. When are they going to come back, and then Dade leads to a week a week leads to month in it and never came back. But I just I remember that last game in Pittsburgh. And I remember sitting on the charter. And I also remember thinking while the book that I was gonna write is pretty much died on the vine right now. And then the next year, of course, the Expos came back and spring training got rid of Marquis, Grissom. Larry Walker left traded Ken Hill. And it was over. It was over, you know, and I remember sitting in Philippi eludes office manage the Expos spring training after the day when the baseball players came back. The strike was settled and everybody was gone. He looked at me and said well every team in baseball wants a leadoff hitter. Wants an ace pitcher wants a stud closer wants a cleanup hitter. Who can hit forty home runs? We just gave them all away. And I and I remember thinking at that point. Yeah. That's you just did you gave away the foremost important parts of every baseball team and the. Expos lost within a matter for eight hours. I've never heard a story that needed closure more than that needs closure for sure it does if they or I guess I should say when they come back. There's no way they call them anything. But the Expos right? I would be stunned if they didn't call him the Expos, I would be stunned. I I can't I just can't see it again, that's part of the romance of the thing. Right. And yet boil boy don't even don't even throw that out there. 'cause I hadn't thought of that don't even throw that out there because I don't want anybody to start thinking about that. As a how dare you? They won't do it. No, they won't. Thanks, jeff. Thanks, jordan. Appreciate. Jeff Blair sports net. Five ninety the fan. Also, the co host of the lead a podcast about sports and culture with Stephen brunt. You should check that out. That was the big story for more from us. You can find us at the big story, podcast dot CA. We talked to Stephen Brennan. But what's wrong with baseball last year? One of our first episodes consider this one the sequel, and you can find us at frequency podcast network dot com. All of our shows are there we've got moms in the middle work in hard. Now they're coming back for season two weeks from now. And of course, you can find us on social media hit us up at v. Big story. F PIN on Twitter or find our whole network at frequency pods on Twitter on Facebook on Instagram. And don't forget you like anything you've heard go to wherever you get your podcast. That's apple Google, Stitcher. Spotify eye-catcher wherever it is. Leave us a rating leave us a review we can use the help. And we want to know what you think. Thanks for listening. I'm Jordan heath Rawlings. We'll talk tomorrow.

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on 31 Thoughts: The Podcast

31 Thoughts: The Podcast

03:42 min | 2 years ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on 31 Thoughts: The Podcast

"I was on primetime with Bob one time. And remember we were interviewing you this is when you were GM with lease. But and you made an interesting observation, we we started talking with other media do their jobs and everything you're the only general manager I've ever heard admit publicly that. You know, we use you guys. Just like you use us. You know, like he's column they're trying to get a headline or colorful. But if Jeff flare writes that we're trying to do something that helps me someone's gonna read that in the clips most GM's locking collar any so absurd pile on their desk, and they want some read them every day. I don't. But at least most of 'em him the heading to see, oh, you know, Burke, looking to move defensive, and they got clicked on that thing. Jeff player says you look in the mood a census to me. It's helpful. It's it's it disseminating information, and you get some fishing your face with one round the water fish with four so thinking, I think it works. And if people don't don't do it there only. Throw a trade room to try to create something. Absolutely. I'll have no problem using the media to try to create something does that happen more often than we realize, we're we're we're essentially being played not in a bad way. But being played does that happen more often than we realized go because I wouldn't do it without telling you I was doing. Okay, I wouldn't. 'cause you'd be mad at me later. If you say you used me for bait you jerk, and I'd be like, no, I didn't. Because I told you. Okay. I'd say do me a favor we put in there. I'm thinking of moving this guy. Now, you're the Charl may place. So that goes coast to coast about twenty two minutes. Right. So no, I wouldn't use a guy that way without Telemachus ways. Do me a favor. We flow Kessels name next thing. You know, it's a big story. But the power of the trial may police brand is such that all I have to do is go to a visiting game go to a foreign city vice show up in the press box Detroit. We got a big tray going Detroit trial may police. The power of the brand is staggering. Like all Kyle do has to do to start untold rumors show up on a press box or in a college game. Even if he's not watching his guy he's at a college game. There's a high Chicago draft pick their someone will say, well, he's here looking at that high Sukagaw draft pick crazy, but how is that useful to you? If you float that we're thinking about moving how does is that how it works in the room. Or is that are you trying to start something up sometimes your bowl torch and your guy trying to get him going, right? And sometimes you're actually trying to stir up interest because it works guys read the paper and said never would've thought that they're giving him. That was Brian Burke on this week's edition of the lead with Jeff player and Stephen brunt. Get that at apple podcasts and Google play Elliott. So now don't blame us for all the terrible trade rumors out, there know that their son GM leg Burke, who's using us to get stuff out there. All right. This is an interesting one. Yup. From Kosta run. So coast k will the NHL ever award contract. We construction to GM's slash players. Like the NFL does. No. They don't want that. Because. What they want is you to live with your bad contracts of scare you not to do them. Again. They wanna make it as fail-proof as possible for you to escape your bad deals. Allowing reconstruction doesn't allow that. Then why does the NFL do it with great success? Their salary cap is Jain Ormuz and his guarantee contra, and there's no guaranteed contracts. From Scott Pouliot memorial Cup was brought into the office of team..

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on 31 Thoughts: The Podcast

31 Thoughts: The Podcast

04:27 min | 2 years ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on 31 Thoughts: The Podcast

"Affectively are you coach? No. And that's why that's why you're not a coat Eric retact does submits what in the world of the Minnesota wild need to do to turn the franchise around. We all know about the no trade clauses for drafting, etc. But how does how does the Minnesota while turn this? Ship around with knowing simply blowing the team up isn't an option. Well, then if you're not gonna blow the team up and go to the bottom, then your only option is to draft in developed. It's a slower process that way how many times are you gonna find an absolute stud where Minnesota drafts it's hard mushy. She middle tough, the mushy middle is really tough. What if they tried to do they said last year, if you wanna trade for a coil or something like that you have to take? Contract and that didn't work. So you can't get something without giving up something. What do you really willing to give up? If you're Minnesota. This is why I maintain like it's to slow process. It's tough to be general manager in any market. It's really tough to be a general manager in an underperforming Canadian market. But I think the most frustrating position for general managers across the NHL has to be Paul Fenton's. Because what can you do don't you walk into that job feeling frozen with your roster? Well, if you have an owner who is the question here presupposes, the tearing down it's not an option if tearing it down is an option you can do that. But if it isn't what is Paul Fenton's. Best quality scouting scouting takes time. You're not getting any quick fixes that way from at diet flannel. I like this person following yet another controversial goal review in Edmonton last night. Yup. I'm left to ask why the? NHL TV question. I'm left to ask why the NHL doesn't provide all camera angles television reviews at the time of consideration. It's frustrating as a fan to wonder about what actual footage is out there. Well, now, they do two weeks ago. What was the one we had the one in Tampa? We broadcast the game between Toronto in Tampa couple of weeks ago. And there was one that was understanding the glove was Anderson's glove on the net. And they showed us the camera. That's inside the crossbar that clearly showed the puck was in the net. Now, I made a mistake on the broadcast that night. I said that it's not provided to us until after the goal is decided or not the sided. That's not true. They give it to us. Now when they first see it it just happened to be late because it wasn't that night. Because it wasn't the first thing that was seen, but they do provide them all now, the one thing I do think the NHL should do to help diet flannel is. Next year or or her? Real real name last year in the playoffs. They were sending out pictures on their NHL PR website or there until website saying here's the puck in the net or years the puck on that. I know it's not the play offs. But they should be doing it in the regular season. Have a question from Lyle Brewster about Brian Burke, how did sports net get Brian Burke to tie up his? Why? Told me what they asked me. That's true. I worked his first game in the playoffs. It was game one round to Tampa Bay Boston. And you know, he said to me it was me David amber him, and he said to me should I do up my tie. And I said, well, if it's up to me, I wouldn't because we hired you to be Brian Burke in your known as to not wearing your ties that don't do. It was like, well, you look like you have real authority. So I I'm not gonna do it. And then we learned I had no real authority here because the second broadcast is tied up. I actually asked you know, rob Korte and Scott Moore. I said, you know, how come we're doing that? Like are we having Burke doing and they said it's just too distracting? You're not paying attention to what he's saying. If the ties all over the place that was their answer. There you go. Speaking of Brian Burke, he is featured on the lead with Jeff Blair and Stephen brunt this week. Let's play a little clip here before you get back to some more ask thirty. One. This is an interesting little bit on how executives use the media..

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on Five Rounds with Brett Okamoto

Five Rounds with Brett Okamoto

03:17 min | 2 years ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on Five Rounds with Brett Okamoto

"Well, Ben asking tweeting me now did he say at any point during the area who wanna interview did Marty? Use men say he would fight me. Or did. He just make a lot of lame excuse it sounded like he said, he would fight it might believe. I think by the end of it. We got to. I don't think it was ambiguous to you. By the end. He said he's going to hurt them. What was the exact phrase used? I'm forgetting, but it was flatlined. He's gonna flatliners. That's right. He was gonna flat the curly haired weirdo. Yes. I think that's that's declarative statement, Jake anything you want to say for yourself back there. I mean, I feel like you're you're you're you're here. But you're not you're very reclusive today. I'm just doing my job anything you wanna say guys. That's it. That's all you got to be good weekend of fights. That's what you got. That's big input looking. Hopefully channel gets the Bill back can photo that fight here. We're openly rooting for Chandler's. That's I'm gonna have grandparents on the show. Fan, right. I'm allowed to be. You're not a journalist per se by trade not trade though. That's all that's your big input. After all this time. I've been building you up as some sort of MA grew. That's I'm hoping let me last time. BJ penn. You're not really building me. Well, here I am trying to sort of repackage you into an insider, and you give me I hope Michael Chandler will beat Brent premise. That's your big fan. That's your big nugget. I don't have any nuggets. That's your job. That's all you go. Anything? Becky Lynn, Ben aspirin, anything at all. What would you like me to? I don't know. I just I just wanted to know if you had something to say, not really know. Should we tell the people that are big plans or not not this week? Teased it earlier. So we're good. All right. Is that your way of wrapping up? Now, you kind of wrap it up yourself. Well, it was turning to you now for some insight now, this is my way, wrapping any, you know, fond memories of the UCLA, FOX. Era. Anything you want to say the return of dominant Cruz. What about CRO Cup Nelson to happening in Connecticut? Surely, you have something to say cage warriors one hundred you're talking to someone card in February in Connecticut that that's see. Of course, Jake. You know, you save lauding applauding built for doing MVP daily in Connecticut, exits twenty minutes away from I mean, that's your big thing. Wow. Scott fan has the one big thing. That's that's shakes. That's the new thing for the post show. I've just decided we're going to end the show as thing with Jakes one big thing it's gonna it's gonna be pearls of wisdom. What are we what a time to be alive? My friends. It has been fun to Toronto by the way, Stephen brunt. Tim and sid Vom account sportscenter. I mean, I went to a mall and talk to him, all frankly, it's hard just being a regular citizen. Doing bid is. I forgot my green card. I almost didn't get an opportunity to leave the country. It was very scariest budget here. But I made it we had a fun day. Appreciate everyone who stopped by today. Very much near creek. Jacob went back in Bristol. We'll be back next week until then. Bye. Bye.

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on Ariel Helwani's MMA Show

Ariel Helwani's MMA Show

03:17 min | 2 years ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on Ariel Helwani's MMA Show

"Well, Ben asking tweeting me now did he say at any point during the area who wanna interview did Marty? Use men say he would fight me. Or did. He just make a lot of lame excuse it sounded like he said, he would fight it might believe. I think by the end of it. We got to. I don't think it was ambiguous to you. By the end. He said he's going to hurt them. What was the exact phrase used? I'm forgetting, but it was flatlined. He's gonna flatliners. That's right. He was gonna flat the curly haired weirdo. Yes. I think that's that's declarative statement, Jake anything you want to say for yourself back there. I mean, I feel like you're you're you're you're here. But you're not you're very reclusive today. I'm just doing my job anything you wanna say guys. That's it. That's all you got to be good weekend of fights. That's what you got. That's big input looking. Hopefully channel gets the Bill back can photo that fight here. We're openly rooting for Chandler's. That's I'm gonna have grandparents on the show. Fan, right. I'm allowed to be. You're not a journalist per se by trade not trade though. That's all that's your big input. After all this time. I've been building you up as some sort of MA grew. That's I'm hoping let me last time. BJ penn. You're not really building me. Well, here I am trying to sort of repackage you into an insider, and you give me I hope Michael Chandler will beat Brent premise. That's your big fan. That's your big nugget. I don't have any nuggets. That's your job. That's all you go. Anything? Becky Lynn, Ben aspirin, anything at all. What would you like me to? I don't know. I just I just wanted to know if you had something to say, not really know. Should we tell the people that are big plans or not not this week? Teased it earlier. So we're good. All right. Is that your way of wrapping up? Now, you kind of wrap it up yourself. Well, it was turning to you now for some insight now, this is my way, wrapping any, you know, fond memories of the UCLA, FOX. Era. Anything you want to say the return of dominant Cruz. What about CRO Cup Nelson to happening in Connecticut? Surely, you have something to say cage warriors one hundred you're talking to someone card in February in Connecticut that that's see. Of course, Jake. You know, you save lauding applauding built for doing MVP daily in Connecticut, exits twenty minutes away from I mean, that's your big thing. Wow. Scott fan has the one big thing. That's that's shakes. That's the new thing for the post show. I've just decided we're going to end the show as thing with Jakes one big thing it's gonna it's gonna be pearls of wisdom. What are we what a time to be alive? My friends. It has been fun to Toronto by the way, Stephen brunt. Tim and sid Vom account sportscenter. I mean, I went to a mall and talk to him, all frankly, it's hard just being a regular citizen. Doing bid is. I forgot my green card. I almost didn't get an opportunity to leave the country. It was very scariest budget here. But I made it we had a fun day. Appreciate everyone who stopped by today. Very much near creek. Jacob went back in Bristol. We'll be back next week until then. Bye. Bye.

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on Five Rounds with Brett Okamoto

Five Rounds with Brett Okamoto

01:32 min | 2 years ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on Five Rounds with Brett Okamoto

"The Jeff Blair show the lead Stephen brunt is a great shows. Well, j.'s talk like as well. There's no great Knicks pods, which is unfortunate only specific pod, which really makes me said, seems like you could get some mix from Diese narrow. Well, do you know what I've listened to their podcast before? I'm big fans of theirs, but it's all like shot up to this guy and I like fast forward for fifty minutes. Man, like there's nothing so annoying. Fifteen minutes. Yes. Case like I'm in for it. It's what it's annoying eventually get to. I like I like, I like, what is it? Whereas, whereas where's it? O. j. j. redick's I know you're fan. I like the sports media ones, of course. So yeah, there's there's some of the ones I like, how about you a lot of the same. We often talk podcasts, John Pollock, unwavering post wrestling guys. Yes, we talk. If I, if I get a pod who's us into Steph curry to Bill Simmons, I'll send that to you. That was great stuff you covered on a lot of the sports ones. I listened to outside of that. I love comedy ones, comedy, bang, bangs a great one. Row road trip in for my guys. They still do it for Senate Shannon. Yeah. Oh, it's taken different forms and stuff, but that's a great one. The basement yards. When I really like with my boy, Danny lops and Joe Santa Gado. But none better than this one but podcast, a multimedia experience. Sometimes I'll be honest, sometimes they get a little when people call it a podcast..

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on Starting9

Starting9

01:48 min | 3 years ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on Starting9

"Uh it is when it comes to things like this now i am in firm opposition to them about and yes my my vote for bonds in my vote for clemens and my vote for others who have either been accused of or a known steroid users would have helped with their candidacy but to me their candidacies come second to the idea that this institution by which baseball players and and the grand history of the game is judged eh is is participating in a negative way there needs to be somebody there and listen i'm not going to be the only person certainly i'm not the only person has given up his vote my colleague tim brown did a couple of years ago buster only is done it stephen brunt uh up in toronto is done it guys who i really respect in who have voice in who have half uh in the business in then in shaping opinions in so i feel like my ability to to shaping opinion is introduced with a clear conscience honestly is a lot easier not voting that it would be voting two i'm curious about your your voting history in the in the short time that you did have a vote you mentioned voting for bonds and voting for clemens so obviously you didn't have a problem with voting for a you know a a noted steroid user allegedly uh but where did you draw the line because obviously there are some guys who have hall of fame type numbers but uh a guy like sammy sosa for example doesn't get nearly the same support as a as a barry bonds are roger clemens because obviously you have the dynamic of this guy wouldn't even sniff the hall of fame ballot had it not been for for performance enhancing drugs so what was your thought process behind of voting for some steroid users but not all.

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

01:36 min | 4 years ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

"Conor thinks it dana thinks it it's clear that there is a bit of a a wind being drawn at the sannier between teammate weather which include showtime and team ufc which i think is funded brilliant and i actually think that this adds to the promotion do you think showtime actually said look we're not going to have him speak where to cut the mic so that he doesn't interrupt our guy floyd mayweather to actually think that that is the case i think the intention was that if the roles were reversed the might still would have been cut if it was mayweather trying to respond to mcgregor that the mic would have been cut so i don't think it had anything to do with trying to get a guy over versus burying mcgregor i think it had to do with they didn't want them interrupting each other so if it had been the roles had been reversed i don't think but was a show time idea or was that a staples center idea may be an overzealous audio guy who's like okay the talking now eydelie have you know i don't want to have this other guy interrupting him i think it had to be some some version of that where a definitely wasn't the intention um but they learn very quickly that you can't do that everybody wants to see them go back and forth what a mistake i don't think showtime mean that's that's all he had fun here nobakht i i think it was probably a logistics thing the person running the board shut down but let me tell you it was a blessing in disguise because conner comes out the big thing going it to toronto was and it was later in the day there was like this buzzed building in the city and i got to do the timid sit show on roger sports now which was such an amazing through for me and i got the sit down with stephen brunt steven brunt is like canadian journalism royalty steven brunt.

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"stephen brunt" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

02:03 min | 4 years ago

"stephen brunt" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM

"With the breaks on going over for the i think the entire game hinges on the pressure of going over the way that they apply it in a way that great reacts do it going over used to continue to get into those passing lanes to continue to make on comparable ap often back you come on the perimeter i don't know if there's been a point and greg mcdermott's tenure at creighton which they have gone through with well from the three point line with beer go no very good job of running the mouth off of that and contesting it when they have it if i'm great mcdermott i'm pretty sure he spent the entire have time imploring his team to be stronger with the basketball could make better cuts to make better screens to create passing lanes to fill in over can get into the half stronger with the ball if they continue to turn it over and you'll the fast break a villain over this game will be over very early in the second half thirty six twenty two is this right now josh art look man this and as you want to do just took over this game are about a five minute span in the middle of all the payoffs for great you recall adrian rebuild over with josh or it really wasn't get a couple of big shots he took advantage of breaking kind of gambling first feels a little bit you look at the performance that he's having here he is the leading rebounder in the game as well with five you've got to off and so forth and when great highly kind of got to a point where they quieted heart a little bit that's one grunts in stuck with his big time life we've mentioned it so many times no backcourt in college basketball is better than this the win over ten and yes cause so many matchup problems in your seeing it here tonight but great spear ian of the little the in big games and it big ascetic certainly showing up tonight break that how bad experience with this team going all the certainly has the experience with this stephen brunts of it harder at twenty six points combined in that first half have with experience here i mean obviously going to the national championship last year in the adversity that they faced several times in that game.

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