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Hour 1: You All Should Be Ashamed

The Stephen A. Smith Show

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Hour 1: You All Should Be Ashamed

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I got some stuff to say about that so called rich paul rule that was but there's no longer because the n._c._w. No longer requiring ages to have four year degrees agrees in order to represent student athletes and what have you all of those things that things that we're going to get into because <hes> i got some things to say about that but when i got on my mind for the immediate media moment is the new york giants ladies and gentlemen the new york giants. If you are a new york giants fan it might be in your best interest to turn the channel from the show. If you are a new york giant fan and you love yourself some john mara it might be an issue. It might be an issue for you to listen to the show because i can't believe what i heard this man say owner for the new york giants supposedly rosalie a gold standard supposedly a first class organization listen to what john mara had to say in regards to ally manning being being the quarterback for the new york giants for the duration of the two thousand nineteen season. Even if it means dan you jones now playing single snap for the new york giants in favor of the thirty eight year old quarterback that his eli manning who's going to be thirty nine in january who by the way has looked fifty nine on too many occasions to count. This is john mara speaking about the new york giants quarterback situation. Take it away. Eli is a great year. Didn't there'd be an ideal world is like to see that again. Let's film at the end of the day is going to be decision by chance to win or if dan if gain doesn't play one snap as a rookie. You'd be okay with be very happy. Agree year and you did you hear that. Did you hear that he'd be very very happy if daniels. Danny jones the number six overall pick and this past n._f._l. Draft didn't didn't play a single snap. You see it stuff like this. That really really gets to me because clearly this doesn't have much to do with football did has to do do with manning who is class personified eli manning who is a good dude. A consummate professional never any drama whatsoever plus. He happens to be a two time. Superbowl champion that ally manning we understand the affection the adulation the respect for him as a man dan etc etc but this is the problem we so. We're supposed to be living in a world where taxi we're supposed to. We live in a world where results matter was supposed to be living in a world where you know what what you do actually counts for something and what you don't do. Dam sure counts particularly particularly when it's applicable everybody else but when it comes to eli manning oh no we can't do that. We can't do that for the record. Let's be very clear about a couple of things. Let's just get it out system. The new york giants have missed the playoffs five times in the last six years. The new york giants have missed the playoffs five times in the last six years. They've missed it seven times in the last nine years now one of those years that they did make the playoffs one of those two years two thousand eleven. They won the second super bowl alive adding. I believe the new england patriots yet again but after that they missed the playoffs four straight years before going to the playoffs the two thousand sixteen and then missing it last year i i'm sorry twenty seventeen and then last year so they've missed the playoffs pretty much six times in the last seven years towns in the last ten and this man is talking about how he you know. He'd be ecstatic ecstatic if danny jones down because that means eli manning is playing well. Let me tell you something. It's a problem eli manning any clearly is not the same player that used to be. We're not excoriating this man. We're not trying to disrespect him. We're simply saying father. Tom attrition and anything else that you i wanna point two has caught up how many concessions to make yet a g._m. That didn't my leading makhudu could do bitch for one game the only game he's missed in the last thirteen years. You got rid of them before that you got rid of coughlin after that you're drafted willing to end this. Your sign nate's older to a megadeal. You're drafted saquon barkley. How how many things have you done to try and make life easier for manning and still got so far result. What the hell is the problem. What the hell of the problem problem. You can't wake up and see that the end is near. He li- manning is approaching. The contrary. Allow manning doesn't want to retire. Eli manning wants to stick around and john. Mara basically said if we have i draw those manning would be around for years to come years to come and you're a giant fan and you have a reason to be excited. You really think that they go ride saquon barkley until the wheels come off. They're gonna ride this brother into the ground. They are going went to short short in his years in the n._f._l. By dog years practically they run them into the ground to the wheels. Come off. It's going to be similar to what dallas did with demarco murray years ago gave the ball three hundred ninety two times and then told him to go kick rocks he he had to become a philadelphia eagle in order to stay in the league. That didn't work out before you ended up in tennessee but we all know this is what they do running backs. What'd you think they're gonna do the barclay. He's only in a second here. He's got three trucks for legs. He's a model citizen. Listen you also got rid of o._b. J. odell beckham julia for allott acquired zeitler. Put him on your offensive line as well at your right gods. But what are you doing. How much have you not done for eli manning and we're having this conversation. This is ridiculous but it goes a little bit deeper because for me you don't y'all y'all know how i roll it. They just about football. Here's a question. Would you do this for anybody else. Would you do this for anybody else. Thirty eight years of age skills of clearly dissipated production clearly earliest theatre where it used to be. Would you have done this anybody else. Would you have this attitude fairly body else. Would you make these kind of concessions assists for anybody else. Hell you probably draft danny jones because of eli manning because of their relationship he wouldn't mind waiting a bit longer than somebody else. I'm on waiting and that had a lot to do what you electing him so it's so did after one preseason game y'all trying to clear the path acting like this brother should be a starter the now and he's so special this is so bad on so many levels it really is because you clearly have an ownership that doesn't want to let go on ownership that wants to hold on to ally manning for deal is absolutely positively no wing absolutely positively knowing that he doesn't happen anymore perfectly fine with that perfectly fine it eight seven to nine three seven hundred sixty eight eight say e._s._p._n. That is the number to call into. Stephen smith show e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. And i take no pleasure of joy and saying what i said i like ally manning often told a story about how i was filling in for michael k and he was a guest on the michael kay show there was no publicist on the line or anybody else call awesome ally manning called themselves five minutes earlier and hold and wait it. He's big the responsibility. He's big on honor commitments. He's big on being a professional. He's big on all of these things. It's a special quality to have and all the money he's gotten over the years. He deserves most of it. If not all of it nobody's trying to rain on the parade. That is eli manning. We know what a good dude. He is. We get it. We really really do but i gotta tell you to see the concessions thrown in his direction by john. Morrow reminds me of the privileged few that that still lives in our society. Everybody ain't getting that kind of treatment. There's a whole bunch of people that will because of it professionals that would act right and what have you tom brady and even getting that kind of treatment from bill ballot. Check with the three. We straight super bowls. One two of the last three super bowls bill wouldn't even give him a multi year deal. You could go ahead and be a free agent at the end of the season if you want to. It's okay we'll be yeah. I pry prior to that before. He became joe porn star jimmy. Jimmy garoppolo was the backup in new england star before the opportunity. Bill belzec wanted to get rid of. Tom brady just to put jimmy garoppolo up in there. You can't make this stuff up. Tom brady consummate professional personification of accompaniment saying the right things doing all the right things the right way and there is being incredibly appreciative and supportive of the ownership with mr mr craft and his son jonathan and still he's at the mercy of bill belichick yeah. We'll give give you a one year deal basically but eli manning he keeps trg trg alone able to do able to survive rather for elongated period of time. I gotta i'll tell you something. It's the problem. Somebody needs to say. Something needs to be honest about it. We just i need to do that is just that simple. It eight say e._s._p._n. Is inundated with two nine three seven seven six. You're listening to the stephen. Smith show e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. The news let's go to another subject because andrew luck is another matter. There's a lot of people out there. In complete panic mode membe miss part of of of football season three years ago because of a lacerated kidney missed all twenty twenty seventeen because of a torn labrum was on suicide watch for years leading up to those injuries because greeks in general manager for the indianapolis colts at the time never had had the decency to get an offensive line and gano just wasn't good enough as a coach even though he's a good man nice man wasn't good enough as a coach to really get him away from some of those troms. Here's the reality of the situation as of right now because of a calf injury sustained in april supposedly andrew luck is only practice three times since april not as no training camp practices. Everybody's looking at them now. They're wondering they're questioning. Folks are very very worried about him. I got it. I understand it. I'm not that worried. I wish i could tell you. I was worried but i'm not because i gotta tell you something. I believe you luck and i understand that he's been a bit fragile or whatever here's what i will remind you off. You've got some belief in air andrew luck talent but i damn sure i believe in reagan's a coach and i definitely believe in chris ballard that his general manager you see that offensive line. He gave andrew luck last year. The y'all know the angela his first season back after missing the entire previous campaign in two thousand seventeen to paul noted andrew luck went five straight games without suffering one sack does after the do was getting sacked above forty five times as a year and hit more than one hundred this offensive line will everybody's do quit nelson monsters monsters. They don't play and they protect their man and you look so. You got that going on also t._y. Hillsdale last time i checked you did acquire devin funchess any off season. It used to be in carolina. He's a big target. This kid paris campus rookie. Everybody's been raving about this kid out of ohio state and what speeds he is and what kind of damage he could ultimately do. That's a plus you gotta familiar tight in jack doyle as back in the mix knicks after he was injured puerto lashio eric e brown we know he could ball and oh by the way ball macaroni football too because got enough as knows how to block doc. I got news for you all ladies and gentlemen. If andrew luck is somewhat healthy the indianapolis colts super bowl contender. I don't give a damn what you saw in a place kansas city last year and that's and that's storm the net snowstorm andrew luck and indianapolis colts our team to be reckoned with kansas city is to now it's best even though their defence is much to be desired but they're definitely a team to be reckoned with pittsburgh. I'm not ignoring them. I think they're going to have a better year this year than they did last year. We can't ignore the browns god forbid we do that with the roster changes and make over they've had with o._b. Jay and it still the kareem hunt comment and jarvis landry still the in joke still there and then offensive line how protective baker mayfield who's supposed to be the second that coming to joe montana. If you're listening to cleveland browns fans out there oh my god the press presses and then you've got to look at the a._f._c. South with indie with houston with tennessee with jacksonville grabs <music> but i'll take india's right there so all. I'm saying that i believe aaron. Andrew andrew luck is not healthy. I got it but i believe if he needed to play he could and whether he's ready for week one or not not i think he'll be ready when it counts and i'm going to place my faith in him. I'm not going to be worried about him. As other people are understand durability. Durability is a question mark. I understand his history. I get it but this is a new day. In indy chris ballard thus far the hell of a job and i would tell you i think i really really believe indiana. Indianapolis could make some noise. Everything starts and finishes with andrew lock. I know that but i'm just telling you i think they got a chance mantha over forty five hundred yards last year second in the league with thirty nine touchdowns. I believe in andrew luck. I really really do it at eight. Say e._s._p._n. It's seven to nine three seven seven six. You're listening to live to steven talk radio e._s._p._n. News in regards to the jay z. collaboration with the national football league. I will tell you that i'm i'm not skeptical about it. As most at least on the part of jay z i think the jay z. is going to use the muscular arms of the national football league week to implement change as it pertains to their approach towards social justice issues and beyond. I definitely think that the n._f._l. Is co op issue to some degree covering their own. You know what i got it but it's still smart business on their part. Here's the only thing that i would say that combined with even the president the united states and he has no problem colin kaepernick plan in the national football league so long as he can still play. What's the problem cala capital getting the trial with an n._f._l. Team let me tell you what the answers ladies and gentlemen let me tell you what the problem. It's you all at a problem. It's y'all because y'all have given the impression to the american public to. I'm sorry to n._f._l. Teams genius that you will not support their brand if they would give collar cabinet could try or have him him on their roster. You won't patronize their product. Individual owners will lose money and their attitude is that colin capital because it worked it. That's what's going on. We all know what time it is. We know what you're doing so it's gonna be real interesting to see whether or not that's helped daisy's going to try to implement and whether or not he's going to challenge the owners to at least give a try it to colin kaepernick. I promise you it'll be covered. We'll see we'll know but we all know is not going to happen because the n._f._l. Is not gonna put themselves in ah position where they believe their bottom line is remotely jeopardized. I hope i'm wrong but i think they can. Safely say the career of colin kaepernick over. That's just my thought. What does it eight say e._s._p._n. Is being edited seven to nine three seven six you listening lobster. Stephen smith show e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. Straight talk wireless everything for us only at walmart by the way. Do you have frequent heartburn like the com- we have stashed everywhere in case. It pops up. You know what i mean. You keep your bag of your desk or your nightstand. 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News <hes> i'm going to touch on something regarding the rich paul rule little bit later on in the show but for now we'll get to the calls and they'd say e._s._p._n. It's inundate three seven seven six. Let's go to brendan ending. You live is stephen. They what's up. Hey steven so listen. I think you're you're really misinterpreting. <hes> john maher's comments here okay all he's doing is recognizing that ally is going to be the starter week one and if the giants continue to win games obviously you're not going to bring your backup so all he's really saying is hey. I'm the owner of this team. I hope my team win. I don't i disagree with you and i think you'll being entirely allie disingenuous a matter of fact if i if i didn't the only reason i'm not calling you a flat out. Liar is because i don't know you. Here's the reality of the situation. There's one thing to root for your team to win. There is another thing to root for specific individual and there's no crime in that either because if you're going to root for somebody why wouldn't you root for ally manning because he is class personify plus. He's a two time superbowl champion plus. He's a member of the first family of the national football league. We get all of that but clearly clearly when it comes to mr mara there's an elevated level of affectionate. He has he li- meant that goes against the grain. There's a level of tolerance <hes> that he's willing to exercise exercise for ally in man's that he would never think of doing with other people ally manning has missed the playoffs six times less than us. Ally manning manning has missed the playoffs all but twice over the last decade and we take that into consideration along with the dissipated level of skill that he's put on on display and the way this franchise struggle. There's only one franchise in the entire national football league that would be having folks running around talking about allies still got it it and you know what i hope to three years left and whatever based on what they've done seen and that's the new york giants and you damn well know it. Here's the thing soon so. The giants showed us in their actions that they're ready to move on from ally by drafting daniel jones becoming ask as you this question. How how many steps did it take. You got rid of tom coughlin. You got rid of your g._m. Got rid of the coach that benched him to see what somebody else. Had you know as a reserve your draft. The nate solely drafted saquon barkley. You acquired zeitler. You've got rid of o._b. Jay who was a bit petulant in some people's eyes whatever come on now there are plenty of things that have transpired and it shouldn't have taken this law for them to get to that point. Don't sit here and act like you know they haven't made strong law concessions to appease eli manning because of their affection for him. You know better stephen. That's not even the point though the and the reason you're getting on him today where you're getting married today because of the comments that he made yesterday there isn't a single owner in the n._f._l. That i would say hey. I hope my back of quarterback giant sales. Are you ask. How did you feel when dave gettleman came out and said <hes>. We think allies has got to three. Maybe three years left it. How did you feel about the comment that it's not what he said. He said that he could foresee a scenario in which that is possible obviously aw really what he said so so so the entire media out there is misquoting gettleman about how he said he felt like ally had two. Maybe three more years left in the does he made before they trusted daniel jones when you're looking at it ought to wait. Wait a minute. I i should hang up on you right now. 'cause i asked you a question because we know that get them and said that before. You knew damn well. I want to talk about after draft dan you jones. I was talking about what he said before what we've seen it before. Jones was drafted. We've seen eli and we've seen him dissipate and still at all. I asked you a direct question. You try to wiggle your way around around that. You know damn well. Gettleman and all of those guys on tomorrow have been singing. Eli praises and nauseam against what every aficionado out they have said about what they've seen not just lie but on film about ally manning and does what he said when i just sit up there and i quoted you what he said you know that brendan right. I thought you were talking about a different closed that he made the day after the draft or it's just neither here okay reasoned. Eh that i'm calling you is because of the comments that you're making to open up the show about his marriage. Comedy comments are consistent thin with the things that he has said in the past and what others have said even before daniel jones got here when we've clearly seen deterioration from eli manning. There's a reluctance to let go brinton. You got admitted that the giants fan you gotta admit that if there was such a strong long reluctant to let go of eli manning why would they have taken daniel jones with the sixth overall pick. They know eventually he'll you'll have to go because for the time is undefeated but they're hopeful that they will jones for a couple of years. That's what i'm saying not only that taser your question because of the connection with the main through cut cliff all those boys at duke because of that this this guy might not mind sit down for a couple of years where somebody like haskins authors. Were dave. Show not try to go for that one could make that argument. I don't i don't know whether that's true or not but one could make that argument right absolutely and of course the giants are hoping that you i will play this entire dr season and if you as a starting quarterback next year okay bread and i will say i will fess up. I'm tired of listening to you. I'm really am and i'll tell you this too. You're probably the reason why the giants could get away with this. They'll keep on losing because of fans like you good bye. Let's go to louis ya saliva stephen. What's up everybody. I'm all right. Go ahead. I was just listening for that call with with brandon about ally which is <music> sort of the reason i i i called in. I am a tremendous fan where i am a fan of eli manning is i'm a fan of thousand four draft class and i'm a fan of that draft stuff because i am a big ben rothlisberger guy and my argument was a lot of people right now with the departure of lady on bell and a._p. A._p. and an a._b._c.'s what made ben gray and i don't i i don't see it that way you know san antonio homes with with made great by <hes> by by the big band <hes> hines ward had a great last two years of his career because of big bad and i submit even a big band is about that have the the best season of his career thousand nineteen. Wow know about that. I mean last year wasn't too shabby do for over fifty one hundred yards to thirty four touchdowns around both career highs. That's number one number two <hes> i it's not a matter of a receiver like antonio brown making him great because we know that ben rothlisberger is going wanted to hall of fame. He's a two time superbowl champion. He's going to three super bowls but he's also been th perceived as being lower. I hear or second tier when you think about ben rothlisberger. Do you do think about brees amer rodgers. Tom brady being on an elevated level. That's just a fact when you look at the greatness of antonio brown. There is no denying that that he's helped them. Rothlisburger just like iraq does perga- has helped him. I think the question going forward about the steelers. This year is what will the combination of juju smith schuster says you now number one wideout along would change washington and james caan are due for big rosberg in the pittsburgh steelers. <hes> jesse james ames's gone vance mcdonald's now. You're you're tight end spot. I liked him. I still love how he rolled over and ran over one of those tampa bay buccaneers on monday night football last season but the fact of the matter is is that even though these guys have proven they can play none of them have been thrusted into elevated positions like they will be now juju as yet gone from number but to to number one james washington from number three to number two vance mcdonald going from two to one james khanna. He carried the low to some degree last year but but he also had to miss some games because he wasn't one hundred percent healthy so all of these things are factors. I believe the pittsburgh steelers have the potential to win the a._f._c. north. I wouldn't bet against them <hes> but let's not act like oh my goodness without levian and without antonio brown that it's a sure fire bet that still is going to be better because they no longer have hostages hostages all they have volunteers to coin a phrase for mike tomlin is gonna take a little bit more than that for the steelers to be successful season. Well no and don't get let me wrong. I'm not saying that just the departure of those two players is going to elevate them. That's eddie on it. That's not what i'm saying. But what i'm saying is the way that this team is going to galvanize around bad and don't forget switzer. You know what i mean. He sent him invent texted back and forth during the super bowl last year the kind of thing that i oh speaking of i'm watching super bowl white. Here's been have element why cam been have an amendola and sure enough during that game ben tax <hes> ah switzer he says why can't we do it. Okay okay so we'll see. I mean listen. I'm looking at the steelers schedule casual right now. That's what i'm paying attention to because i wanna keep my eyes on that i wanna pay attention and see what this materializes into. Let's not forget the steelers also got dante moncrieff now so we'll see what kind of contribution he's capable of making his well. We'll keep is all of that. As the season progresses no doubt about it but as i'm looking at the steelers dealer schedule here <hes> they start off the season at new england then against seattle at home russell wilson then on the road against jimmy g. joe point star jimmy then they got a monday night game against cincinnati. They got buffalo following a baltimore. I'm sorry the following week and then after that the on the on the road in right here in l._a. Against the charges so that's their first six games of the season with relatively new bodies to rely upon we're gonna find out about the steelers. Wouldn't you say hundred percent and by the way less less we forget the last time steelers won a super superbowl. They had the most difficult schedule in football out later. That's beginning of the right. I liked the fact that they have a difficult schedule. Is i think it's gonna make them great and you know i actually like i love them coming out of the gate and having to play new england in the first game you know i love what i wish it wasn't the road was allergic prosperity of foxborough but that's just me i gotta go louis appreciate the call. Thank you so much and say e._s._p._n. It's edited seven to nine three seven a six. You're listening to live in stevensville show e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. 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Guess what you're in the middle of a stephen swift show podcast debit the biggest concert in games to the hottest theatre shows and more vivid seats has it all download the app and join the vivid seats rewards loyalty program it at eight say e._s._p._n. Is always the number to call eight eight at eight seven to nine three seven seven six. You're listening to the stephen. Smith show e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News <hes> jay z. national football league had their press conference prince. Hopefully i'll get some sound of from that press conference for you because jay z is taking a little heat a little heat <hes> because of the partnership that he's now formed with the national football league vice versa <hes>. We'll talk about that as our number two stephen. A smith show progresses until until then. Let's get back to the phones freddie you lava stephen woods up. Hello freddie you live on air. Go ahead. Oh i was going. I'm ed yeah all right. Just faith knows good hear from you and <hes> we've had oakland for the finals. Wanna see my man but i was busy but anyway okay. Let's check it out almost talking about the raiders right at tokyo brown people ball out since you're right in the race tennis sixers here well. That's why i tell you stephen. Oh lord you rate is going to games. I'll tell you man. There's some good moves why they go in ten games they listen. They basically good moves all season right there really did they got that running back got drako yeah. No you let alabama go ahead. You know well. I mean then. They got the other back on washington. He looked pretty good no then they did. Some good moves on defense line to i already know anybody name but what they do for good news. I hear you but let me tell you something. Call me back when they went to engage. They no way in hell. That's happening matter of fact callback before because you'll know beforehand ain't gonna win next season. Appreciate the call dennis alava stephen a real quick dentist. Go ahead was all stephen a long time listener. You know what i mean. Definitely love everything that you do so i'm just saying if this andrew <hes> to real quick on this angie injury in the going into week two three four five you think because we recycle hold up against on the road at the charges on the road at the titans <music> atlanta no no. I don't think so. I think that indy as good as i think they are as good of jobs. I think ballot has done this g._m. I think you need angela to make all of this work otherwise i think the competition in the a._f._c. south to steve fiala deal yeah i. I've definitely only hit. I mean i'm i'm a bears fan. You know what i mean but i grew up in indiana right next door so i love but <hes> second thing my <hes>. My wife had a birthday today. I was just wondering she could get a happy birthday from the love doctor. Happy belated birthday. Running name is chai. 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Hour 2: Will Cain filling in

"The Stephen Smith Show podcast is a present about capital one card when you earn unlimited double malls on every purchase your next trip is closer than you think. Hey what's in your wallet. This is this even A.. Smith Show podcast Steve Day. Eli Manning can out live his employment with the New York giants by outlive. I mean in terms of his football career if he can outplay his years with the big blue working eli manning in it's a Stephen Smith show on E._S._p._N.. Radio the E._S._p._N.. App Sirius X._M.. Channel Eighty and on E._S._P._N.. Is Will Cain filling in for Stephen coming up in just a moment on the show. Let's go through the Major League Baseball Trade Deadline Yankees our buyers that much is clear who else is in the buyer's market in who is selling their for everybody wants a pitcher so which one will the Yankees and others go all in on that's coming up in just a moment on the Stephen a Smith Show on E._S._p._N.. Radio Jio presented by progressive insurance drivers to switch and save an average of six hundred and ninety nine dollars less per year if you'll remember yesterday here on the Stephen Smith Show I had E._S._p._N.. N._F._l.. Insider Dan Graziano on the show. Dan has a column up at E._S._P._N.. Dot Com where he made bold predictions big predictions over the next three years what could happen across the league and his one of his predictions he said Eli Manning would play for a team other than the New York giants remember that here's what he had to say. I think Eli Manning doesn't think he's done and if he plays it all well this year. It doesn't matter I mean they're. They're going to go with Daniel Jones if not if not some point this year the next year. He's a number six pick in the draft I if he plays well I think he's going to be in a position where he wants to keep it going. Get another contract and show he can still do it. He's not he's not particularly old. In in this era of quarterback performance he can last probably another couple all three years physically. He's never been hurt. You know he believes he's. He offers something in terms of reliability so yeah I think he's he's a guy that looks for work else. I mean unless he just goes off a cliff this year but I don't. I don't know that that's necessarily guaranteed to happen. The way the way their offense is got to run in terms of the short completions and high percentage and all that stuff I think I think you can come out of this year convinced that Eli Manning has something left and if he's convinced that then yeah I think he's going to be looking around for starting opportunity somewhere else and I asked Dan specifically. Where could you envision vision Eli Manning plank because here's the thing about Eli? Eli is a two time superbowl champion. Eli is a manning. Eli is a probable hall of Famer. That's going to be the source in the subject of some debate and I know it's a divisive debate and I've heard from those on every side of the equation and I am somebody who can hold opinions at the same time those of you listening and even my friends in New York City no because the point of a relationship or the starting point relationship is honesty. I sorta like the Dallas Cowboys. Look man born raised outside Dallas. What are you going to do? It's a birthright just like yours was and I gotta be honest with you. Among quarterbacks that I had to play my team had to play on a frequent basis. Eli Manning was at the top of the charts quarterbacks. I was afraid of I can hold that opinion. I can tell you that the truth by the way kirk cousins also was in that same category category but also hold this thought a hall of Famer you don't walk away from a two-time Super Bowl champions career saying that guy doesn't bullying belong in the hall of Memories and fame. Can you write the story of football without allies two super bowls. No you can't Eli Manning is a hall of Famer. So can you imagine a probable hall of Famer a manning a New York giant legend floating around the N._F._l.. Like a case keenum an age veteran looking for one more opportunity to start for one year. Can you imagine Eli Manning in that role and I put it to Dan Graziano if he could find himself in that position and he really wants to play play. Where could he end up in Graziano gave me two teams names of two locations the manning land with one he said the Tennessee Titans Mike Variables got that team performing well? They're on the verge of the win now period and they're also entering the final year of Marcus Mariota's contract if Maryoto doesn't play up to expectations and the titans decide to walk away from paying Mariota big money could Eli Manning be the veteran quarterback answer to a team that wants to compete they have Ryan Tannehill in Tennessee as well and there's probably still a little bit of upside thus sprinkled on Ryan Tannehill a little hope nope and maybe integrated into Ryan Hills DNA but I think Rasi owners right Tennessee's a potential antics up the other one. He named was even more interesting Dan grasset. How about the New Orleans Saints? It's clearly in the win now window. If drew brees elects to retire at the end of this year could Eli be the Kinda guy that comes in steps in in keeps that train running on time a train. It's on the verge was super bowl contending every year. Could Eli be the veteran presence in answer for drew breezes succession now again the Saints Have Teddy Bridgewater there and there are many of the believe that he is next in line to inherit that job but I found those two answers interesting back on the wheel Cain show back on my whiteboards as I use or so like to do go up on a map out the N._F._l.. Situation Anything that requires me to take take notes and mapped out some months ago now the quarterback situation across the N._F._l.. Going into next year looking at WHO's quarterback situation is fluid whose quarterback situation could be an open job next. Here and the reason for that is because you have several names up there that could feel those jobs you got a tongue vilo coming out of the University of Alabama. You Got Justin Herbert coming out of the University of Oregon. You've got maybe teddy bridgewater on the market again. You've got maybe Josh Rosen on his one year tryout in Miami back on the market again and I don't think the League's going to give up on Josh Rosen and you've got two guys who their current teen could could say goodbye to as they enter the last year of their contract Marcus Mariota and Tennessee and Jameis Winston Tampa Bay those potential five six answers to quarterback solutions right addy lamenting that list but where do those answers plug into what are the problems. Here's what I came out with on those whiteboards. It's well Cain fill in for Stephen talking about Eli Manning's next potential potential landing spot. Should you WANNA play beyond his New York giants career and here's what I came up sometime ago I came up with the following teams whose quarterback situations could be open a year from now you have New Orleans and Tennessee is Dan Graziano just laid out you Tampa Bay who I just said. Jameis Winston is entering the last year of his contract. If Jameis Winston doesn't perform up to expectations the buccaneers we'll be looking for a new quarterback. You've got the Cincinnati Bengals new coach a guy off the Sean mcvay tree develops offenses and quarterbacks. What does he see a Andy Dalton and what does beyond Andy Dome? You got the Miami Dolphins Ryan Fitzpatrick Josh Rosen we already know the dolphins are in the tank for two mode. You have the Oakland Raiders and if you feel good about Derek cars job. Well God bless you because I don't think he should feel good about his job. Derek Carr has seen smoke signals. Jon Gruden has introduced shaky ground under Derek cars feed if he doesn't give Gruden the quarterback play that he wants a guarantee the raiders are going to be in the quarterback market a year from now and one last team the Baltimore Ravens. This is a team with question mark under if Lamar Jackson isn't progressing this year if the League figures is out Lamar Jackson. I don't think a guy drafted. The end of the first round has a ton of years to develop. I think that the Ravens who need to win in the short term could also find themselves in the quarterback market and I will add one last team that is the San Diego chargers that is only predicated on Philip rivers read the Los Angeles chargers. The Philip rivers desire to keep playing I think he does I think he's going to sign an extension engine. He probably keep playing but they do have to think beyond Philip rivers at some point they do have to at least plan so among these teams here are the two that I think are the most likely potential destinations for Eli Manning adding two New Orleans Saints in Tennessee Titans the two that I would add to make it four likely destinations for him would be Baltimore Ravens and the Oakland Raiders if Eli Manning has another home in the N._F._l.. I think one of those four teams would be that home all right. You need to tune in tomorrow as Braves Slugger Freddy Freeman in his twenty five homers and seventy five R._B._I.'s host. The nationals presented by indeed coverage begins at six forty five I._P._M.. Eastern time on E._S._P._N.. Radio and the E._S._p._N.. APP Display resume is brought to you by indeed used by over three million businesses for hiring post a job today at indeed dot com slash higher. I don't WanNa move to baseball now where we need to figure out with a little over a week to go before the trade deadline who is going where here on the Stephen a Smith show with will cain filling in everybody seems to want pitching and there's a lot of names <unk> out there that could be the answers for teams looking for pitchers so let's try see if we can do this. Let's set the market and see who ends up where it was talked to E._S._p._N.. Major League Baseball Insider Jeff Passan joins me on the Stephen a Smith show with will cain. WHAT'S UP Jeff William? How are you my friend time very well? Thank you okay to set the market passing. Let's play a little game all right. Let's play a little game of buyer seller. I'm going to name a handful of teams you tell me if they're going to be selling or buying okay may I may I interrupt you I and and throw the caveat out there that there are some teams that may be buying and selling at the exact same time. Yes and I can't wait to find out which teams those are. Let's do that at the tail end of the more obvious ones well. The obvious teams like the Yankees we know they're in the buying market but I'm more curious for the moment about two teams who are in that that that limbo area that may be area. Are we in the wild car race or do we need to think beyond this year so I'm GonNa ask you about not those teams and maybe the answer is. They're going to do both okay all right here. We Go Jeff. Let's start with the San Francisco giants buying or selling this is. I'm I'm warning you. This is going to be a common. I just got on with the general manager couple of minutes ago. We were talking about how he's worried. This is the second one this week who said this to me how he's worried. It's going that'd be a really slow deadline because so many teams it's just a really difficult sell to a clubhouse full of guys into a fan base that expects winning for you to say hey we're on the street where we've won thirteen or fifteen or fourteen of sixteen games and we've clawed back ahead of two teams in Colorado and San Diego that believe that they are going to be in the play off of this year and we're like on the cusp of five hundred or wildfire and yeah you know we're GonNa we're GonNa Trait Bumgarner and look. I wrote earlier this week will that they're selling. I read them so air planning themselves out of selling I know but they're still fifteen games back. The dodgers and I don't know how is it now. I know how many Games is. Wildcard right now how far they have the wildcard guess how far they are out of the wild two and a half games so what are you telling me giants. Don't know giants do not know at this point. They're not giants aren't anywhere close to decide okay. How about the Texas Rangers there sellers right <hes> the rangers are over five hundred they are ahead of a team in Los Angeles angels upset? They're going to be buyers when it was all said and done. I believe the Rangers will showers okay now. This is weird because I'm asking about team that are still ahead of the giants in the standings. What about the diamondbacks I think the diamondbacks what it is all said and done despite the fact that they have a differential that is one hundred five runs better than the giants? I think that the diamondbacks are going to be sellers but they could be came up on the giants and their sellers but the giants don't know if they're buyers or sellers different market different market different trajectory objector giants. Are you know remember the giants this off season while we're talking with Bryce Harper those were legitimate conversations about contract. They were talking with the J. Lament you as well like they have the buyers instinct in mentality galaxy and and the problem there is that they're just so thin at the minor league levels in terms of talent that they need to look for opportunities so what I think the giants could theoretically do if the if they're if they're few sellers out there and to muddle middle as the way that it is will the giants can see any desire for relief pitching that will be out there and know that Brad had out there fully Vasquez's now. They're the return that they get for will Smith would be extraordinary return. They could get for Tony. Watch it would be really good. There's a scenario in which they can hold onto Madison Bumgarner giving the qualifying offer at the end of the year and reaper traffic from it while still keeping a franchise icon around for the the rest of the season while they deal relievers someone who they could backfill from AAA for example so that that is a perfectly reasonable scenario for the giants okay talking to Jeff Passan E._S._p._N.'s major league baseball inside of here on the Stephen Smith show with will cain. It's going to violate my O._C._D.. Here because I like to do things very categorically pass him. I'm going to stay. I'm going to step out of my buyer and seller question and talk about one pitcher for a second so just because I have to follow up so your theory on Bumgarner right now who who's a pitcher that I think a lot of teams are watching looking for right is it. The giants end up making him an offer. They're gonNA tell themselves that compensatory pick they get in the off. Season is going to be compensation enough to play this thing out and Bumgarner is not going to end up in the market but the giants are going to be both a buyer our Anna Cellar. They'll sell relief pitching. I think that that is a an iteration of what can happen. I don't WanNa be black and white because <HES> I. I don't know that that's fair to the is baseball that they're playing right now. If the giants keep winning like this will probably not gonNA go out and train any guys at all but you can. I I think if you look at the players that they have and and they've been you know there were five hundred June. They've been unstoppable in July but <hes> there is there. They are in line for regression at some point they may not regress before July thirty first in which case all of this would be boot but I can absolutely see that scenario that you just described where they keep bumgarner until the end of the year and possibly trade some relievers and and I think you know I think that the giants front office also <hes> <hes> you know they. They want to understand what the fan base wants right. They want to see <hes> the way that people are reacting to this and how excited they are not being disrespectful that but at at the same time you need to balance that with your future and these are difficult questions. These are why people make the money that they do because it's not an easy thing about okay. Let me ask about one more and I think it's another interesting team. It's actually in the same division three teams in the same division that are in this limbo. What about the padres they went all in in the off season there behind the giants and the diamondbacks but I'm reading? You and everybody else seems like they're convinced they're buyers padres. These are definitely buyers sellers. I think the padres can go out and potentially trade Kirby hates who is <hes> has been one of the best clothes in baseball this year and I think they could go out and get a Trevor Bauer or get an syndergaard. I think they really want that. Frontline type starting pitcher and they've coveted a guy like that for for goodyear plus now and they have the system to go out and get it but where the mets are where the Indians these are two different places. The Indians are in place will where they WANNA get ready Major League talent back right now if they do trade a guy like Trevor Bauer and the you know the padres they have that and and it's not just hunter red fro or front meal rest both of whom have twenty five plus home runs this year but it's a guy like Louis aureus whose crushing data AAA and as been a guy who's young can play shortstop can play second base <hes> in in the AD in a couple of young pitchers all of a sudden. It's a really good trade package. Put Together for the innings the mets and I think that's going to want some of the higher end type prospects as opposed to the major league ready talent right now if they were to get rid of Syndergaard I do think think bowers likelier to move then syndergaard but I also wouldn't rule that out all the egos the team that everyone around baseball at least looks at as the likely destination for one of those two guys to go if they get dealt E._S._p._n.. Baseball Insider Jeff passing on the Stephen Naismith show with Wilkinson. Now's where I wanna ask you about some pictures but look you mentioned them already. You mentioned syndergaard. We've talked about Bumgarner stroman. We haven't talked about Trevor Bauer so let's do it this way for a minute because I know you wanna make some predictions right. You love love predictions about where these pictures are GONNA end up. That's what I'm told. Oh Yeah you know I absolutely love predicts. Will I left predictions like I love getting punched in the face. I'm here for both the. The Yankees man quickly really looking forward to seeing you out of the record who the Yankees target is just there in the market for pitching. I guess rattled off four different names. Who Do you think the Yankees are going to prioritize <hes>? Let's not forget Robbie Ray <hes> the Yankees have have made it clear that they want guys who have control and <hes> any of those you know I think I think they would love syndergaard. I have a difficult time believing that the mets portrayed syndergaard <hes> to the Yankees. I think bowers definitely a possibility <hes>. I don't think Bumgarner is a great fit there. I think Robbie Ray and Arizona is good possibility <hes> not sure how good of a fit minor is <hes> stroman guy who's pitched in the A._l.. East and I think that the Yankees as much as any team appreciate that and knowing how difficult it is to navigate those lineup so <hes> you know I think the the thing with the Yankees they want somebody who's under control and are not going to give up a lot unless they get that you mentioned Mike Minor of the Rangers Robbie Ray of the d-box got Trevor Bauer Marcus stroman Madison Bumgarner Noah syndergaard so who are are the Yankees going to have to be competing with if you're not gonNa make predictions about where a different guys land I get it. I'm playing with you. It's chaotic you don't it's hard to know who's buying who selling much less where these guys are GONNA end up. But who do you think is going to be most aggressive out there going for these pictures right here. Chew teams at the top of that list or the Minnesota twins in the Houston Astros. They both clearly need starting pitching. They both clearly want starting pitching. I think you can throw the Atlanta braves in there as well really the only reliable starters that they have right now are Mike Sarokin Dallas Kaikal and they've got a bunch of guys who they can throw out there but none has really separated himself <hes> the Milwaukee brewers are in there too. There's question how good the brewers are <hes>. They've they've just sorta vacillated around the five hundred <hes> area this year but they're they're a team. That really could use a starting pitcher and that's it you know maybe the St Louis Cardinals too. They're kind the hanging around there. You know they've had guys. Did you know Michael Walker getting demoted to the bullpen like they've had some issues there so there there are a number of teams that want these starting pitchers and there may be a hey finite amount of starting pitchers just because some of these teams may not sit there and sell guys especially you know if bumgarner stays and then you have some teams that get into contention enough where they don't want to sell you may see see some of these guys <hes> remain with their teams because their teams have control it can trade them this off season or go into next year with them all right it's E._S._p._N.. Insider Jeff Passan who apparently is <hes> somebody. I'm going to rumble with next week in Bristol all right man Dan Lord being in the face and teaming my show right. You know that's one of the things it's good to get punched in the face. It's good to remember that you're live. You know what I mean. I I don't I you may believe leave like that. I prefer to like realize I'm alive through other methods and meanwhile we can do work like like reading you can afford the `push face right you can met like the jump off a cliff bungee. Jump Get told you're wrong. There's all kinds of ways to remember that you're live. Here's here's the thing man here's the thing like you're clearly like a handsome guy and you got a great head of hair but you're look sometime like like when you're on first. Take sometimes your look face and I don't WanNa. I don't WanNa have to do that to you man. I'm you know what man you're not the first person who's ever mentioned that the last man take care yeah good talking to you but E._S._p._N.. Baseball Insider Jeff Passing Stephen Smith show with will cain. What's so punishable about this face? I don't get it all right. Coming up. Tiger Woods was it fool's gold and speaking of taking shots. Maybe not physical shots metaphorical shots or verbal shots. Jim Harbaugh took some shots at Urban Meyer. That's coming up on the Stephen a Smith show with will king when you're hiring you WANNA waste time sorting through dozens of irrelevant resumes. Is You want efficient way to get a short list of qualified candidate. That's why you need indeed dot Com post a job in minutes set up screener questions based on your job requirements than zero in on qualified candidates using intuitive online dashboard discover what three million businesses use indeed need for hiring post job today at indeed dot com slash higher search for greatness search for indeed. You got to hear the shots. Jim Harbaugh took it urban Meyer. That's next on the Stephen a Smith show with will cain. Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting Dr Living Most of her life in the dark inside the other nesting dolls. She has plenty of time to think if we could sadly she has no brain however when most nesting doll here's the GEICO not only saves people money but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years she thinks it's obvious you should switch because yes switching to gyco is a no brainer pity in most nesting doll and her lot in life. You'll seem to the Stephen Smith Show uh-huh podcast. You got to hear these shots to Michigan head coach. Jim Harbaugh took it former Ohio state buckeyes head coach Urban Meyer took some shots but there's another way you could phrase that there's another way you could call it. He told the Truth Stephen Smith Show on E._S._P._N.. Radio will cain filling in for Stephen. You can normally catch me three to six eastern on all those same television and radio channels before I get to audio audio of Jim Harbaugh. Let me hit up here. The Shell Pennzoil Performance Line on the Stephen a Smith show presented by progressive insurance quote by and save on Home Insurance Progressive New homequote explorer only at Progressive Dot com I was talking about where could Eli end. Up if Dan Graziano E._S._P._N.. N._F._L. Insider prediction comes true that Eli could play beyond his career New York. Where might it be Graziano said New Orleans or Tennessee and I added did Baltimore and Oakley potentially to that list? I Cole in Georgia. What's up call you on the Stephen? Smith show with will cain was well what's up. I just wanted to the first point now that I'm pretty sure heard the whole getting punched in the face the listening to your show. I'm pretty sure I originally I don't think you did. I think you just jumped on it and took the offer. I mean okay. We'll agree disagree you. You think that you just out of the blue said I like getting punched in the face. Will your punched in the face. Is that how you did something about millennial. Don't like watching your show and I said I'm willing to know what your the show because I get punched in the face that day but that would be a weird metaphor for you to use if I'd never said sometimes we should be punched in the face right yeah all right where you lie manning student Tomato Tomato Year Reiko. Am I right. You're right okay. <hes> I think Eli Bill Bill. I think Tom Brady hang it up and bill okay being the wizard the here we go just sign Eli Manning and Eli Manning should win the Super Bowl for the Patriots that is not going to happen first of all. How is he gonNA play beyond Tom Brady? I mean I know there's there's is an age gap but you're GONNA I don't know how young would you have to be feel confident. You're cruel lasts longer than Tom Brady's. I'm serious on that. I'm not as being cute. We're over the cliff right. Tom Brady has sprouted wings and he is flying. There's no fallen off the cliff. No more statistical averages no more quarterback over forty. My man is going to turn forty two. I think soon and he's off the charts off the charts so if you're off the charts. Does anybody really feel comfortable saying Tom Brady is not gonNA be playing at a high level about forty four. I mean look at me. I'm forty four and I'm at the top of my game here so I wouldn't Tom Brady. You know what I'm saying so I'm not sure that he lamenting plays beyond Tom Brady Cole. I'm not sure either under I'm just saying it'd be magical okay. Thanks for the call. Call always good to hear from you. Let's go to Yanni and Connecticut. What's up? Johnny will will will come on man. Why are we even having this debate about where Eli is going to go after the giants? What do you mean? Where are you going to go? He's not going anywhere what team would rather have Eli Manning on their team instead of a young developed quarterback that they have right now who would rather have you. I hear you man. It's for the Ravens Man. Come on well. Yanni which I like saying your name listen Yanni the thing about it is is I hear you and that's my point. It's hard to find slots in which to slide Eli Manning. It's hard to find openings you go. Where does this veteran above average the hall of fame quarterback fit and I think I did I think I think those four are very much potential destinations? Yanni I do believe that you why are you sitting sensitive. Yanni what's problem was you why you can take you think Dick de drew brees is GonNa retire before Eli Manning come on commands nonargument. Why are you hitting sensitive? I don't understand you know yesterday on somebody. Just now by the way I just saw because I made the mistake of opening up Social Media Tennessee Titans Fan got all mad at me for suggesting this. It's funny how snooty fans get right like first of all. We need to go have a white Russian or something you know limber up the old thinker. Let's let's limber up. Our thought processes getting very constipated in here man very constipated so let's let's. Let's just let a little free flowing thought out here. We're playing the game of what if and it's a good game to play. It's not just throwing stuff against the wall. It's the way you do things you play scenarios out. I'm GonNa give you an example yesterday. I I said if somebody could make a deal for Chris Paul right right now who has the ability the assets and who has the need and perhaps should consider it right and I'll lay down my top destinations for a potential Chris Paul Trade right now and as one of those those destinations I offered up the Orlando Magic that seemed to hurt so many feelings. I couldn't believe it first of all my producer. Steven Cerruti was book limped virk limped he was beside himself. He couldn't handle it. Why would we what we wanted to Chris Paul and E._S._p._N.? Orlando Radio and in Orlando blog and twitter basketball magic everybody all upset about it. You need a point guard union point guard. I understand he's old understand he's expensive but since when did magic agic fans get so snooty since when have you been the person to send a meal back at the restaurant you've eaten Arby's every day for four years and now you send them back. Stakes Hall of fame stakes because little old inexpensive I just I don't understand when you got snooty. I mean Penny Hardaway and shack really put you guys behind the now you've had a taste of the good life and it doesn't matter how many Arb- is you have from this point forward your only settling perfect way mignon titans fans under this scenario. We're presuming Marcus. Mariota doesn't work out. We're presuming your in the quarterback Nether Regions Netherlands. We're presuming. You need a quarterback. Maybe Mike rebel thinks the answer to that you still there Yanni. He's going Yani Yani like saying Yanni all right. Let's move forward Jim Harbaugh. He was asked on the T._k.. Show at the athletic about Urban Meyer Urban Meyer a guy the he has an O. and four record against as head coach of the Michigan Wolverines. Raines Owen Four Ohio state or urban Meyer. Here's what Jim Harbaugh had to say. Myers had a winning record <hes> really phenomenal record everywhere is bent also controversy follows other words been new controversy follows everywhere. He's been everybody's like wow shot. Fired shot fired but you know what isn't it true isn't he. Right controversy has far Urban Meyer Everywhere Florida Ohio state winning in Controversy Urban Meyer. It's like a math formula winning plus controversy equals Urban Meyer I. I think that Harbaugh's just given facts here. I don't think he's taken a weird. I don't think he's flexing and Greg mcelroy e._S._p._N.'s college football sportscenter and he had this to say this is completely fair. Everything he said is true. There's been controversy at every destination Russian and he's left controversy but it feels like a house. It's complete turnover newly. I guess I just trying to figure out why Jim Harbaugh hasn't does. He still have a bone to pick because he didn't beat Urban Meyer. Like what do you gain by saying something like this. I think it only draws attention. It almost makes you sound petty. I just not sure there's a whole lot that could be made positive about those comments. I disagree Greg. It's just truth man it. Doesn't you know the thing about the truth is and saying it's like should did you. Should you really way how it plays in the public with the positive negatives. Are I mean yes when you're talking to your wife and she asked you how this looks or put on way you weigh the consequences of the truth in that situation but do you really weigh the consequences. When it's you know directly put to you? I don't obviously anybody listen to the Wilkin show or will cain filling in for Stephen knows my answer to this question so I appreciate somebody telling the truth and it's not like it's a gratuitous shot. You know Peyton manning was just asked about Tony Romo and how good Tony Romo Broadcasting and paid manning said he had heard Tony Romo knew when he was playing at some point that he wanted to go into broadcasting afterwards and peyton manning said that wouldn't be man. I was one hundred percent all in all in while I played. I wouldn't think about what I'M GONNA do. Afterwards I was one hundred percent all in and as the kids say I thought it was a weird flex like why did pay me to take a shot at Romo also think it's nonsense. peyton manning's been cutting nationwide commercials for as long as I can remember. He's he's a great actor and he is all over the commercials. I can't get him off my TV. Every time I turn around peyton manning he's talking about the flea flicker the long-term play whatever that third thing is on his chalkboard of insurance. He's selling along with Brad. Paisley pay manning been doing something and beyond his nationwide commercials. We've been waiting to see what is play. Is he going to be a senator is going to be a G._M.. Is he going to be an owner is going to be a broadcaster. Maybe if he had thought about it we we know by now and I think you can hold two thoughts in your head at the same time. I really do this idea of one hundred percent all in I appreciate that you need to be all in but you can't hold two thoughts at the same time when you take a shower. You can't ask yourself what's next when you ask Kevin Durant the middle of his Golden State Warriors season. Hey what are you gonNA do free agency. We thought about he's I know I can't that's hypothetical. That's beyond the realm. That's that's for later. Nonsense Kevin was in his steam room in his fancy place out there in San Francisco and was thinking about Brooklyn. You and I both know it. You can hold two thoughts in your head at the same time Tony Romo did peyton could've Kevin Durant. Did you can also tell the truth. Jim Harbaugh did all right. I take a break and take your calls next came filling in for Stephen on E._S._p._N.. Radio guess what you're in the middle of a Stephen Swift show podcast Derek Stephen as Michaud on E._S._p._N.. Radio have you missed any of the show today. It's been going go. Check it out on demand in the Steve Naismith podcast brought to you by the capital venture card earn unlimited miles on every purchase everyday. What's in your water will cain fill in for Stephen about Ted into our weekend? We'll have a bunch of white claws right. Oh I got some takes on white claws. Well gotTa talk about that. What's the difference when White Claw Wise Waclaw so acceptable where Zima wasn't where what's the vodka one smirnoff ice? No Dude would be caught dead drinking smirnoff ice but here we all sucked down white clause like it's it's okay me too. I Love Them. They're Nice Mike and Kalli what's up. Mike in the Stephen Smith shows will king it will can't handle the truth. It's right man. They can't handle that. I mean they wanNA drink white cloud the one that like it can't handle it is true that you're seeing right there. They can't handle the truth in the real world. Let alone fantasy what if world so hard by is the truth Sayer and the magic should get crispell. Thank you have a good time within your show that they even a will Smith Show Okay Microsoft about a hall of Fame Football Player like enjoyable just to sit and talk about this guy. That's why all famer and I would take him on my team. He stops it was almost an epic run on Jim. Harbaugh partake out Smith with team to the playoffs right drives everybody and then all of a sudden you sit up and throw Cabernet before anybody knew what he can do. Nobody had the tape on me. Just went out there and those one or two that would have been epic to fair moment for Tim our boss I would take on that team any day and then but I don't think we will because I think that Dan Jones has got the Aaron Rodgers Syndrome and the giants should keep you lie and they should run them out there for two more years and do one more last. It's your turn it over well. I don't think that was true. I appreciate the call Mike appreciate your having a good time and listened. He lives not taking anybody to super bowl no matter where he lands and just as long as they're setting the truth straight it's will cain now will will smith so last one Max in New York. What's up Max? You're on the Stephen a Smith show with will cain. You gotTa make a quick. Are we doing well. I'm just so a Norway 'cause I know menu about the only people in the world who love Tony Romo this much hate manning running in his mouth about him when all Tony Romo is done in the broadcast booth has just been excellent things he predicts every play. Everyone loves hear them and paintings quite frankly annoying on T._v.. I see him on Papa. John's commercials and turn the T._v. off.

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"The Stephen Smith Show podcast is the present about capital one card when you earn unlimited double malls on every purchase your next trip is closer than you think. Hey what's in your wallet this. Is this even a Smith Show podcast. I don't know if you realize this but there's an absolute revolution going on in sports right. Now you name the sport. There's a revolution going on and it stemming from the same revelation the same idea that same thing the coaches across the sports landscape figured out well it soccer or basketball or football coaches over and over figuring out a different way to win a better way to win. I spent my last weekend watching exactly the extent to which we are revolutionizing sports as we know it. It's the Stephen Smith Show on E._S._P._N.. Radio on the E._S._p._N.. APP Siriusxm Channel Eighty and on E._S._P._N.. News will cain fill in for Stephen. You can normally catch me three to six eastern on all those same channels and you can of course join the conversation eight seven to nine three seven seven six the Westbrook and hardened pairing this this dynamic duo continues to feed debate exactly where does this duo rank in current N._B._A.. Hierarchy and how is it ever going to work how to to ball dominant guards fit it in in Houston and better yet as far as I'm concerned. How does it fit in with the revolution going on in Sports with the revolution going on in basketball? I'm an explain to you exactly what I mean by that in just a moment here on e._s._p._N.. Radio presented by Progressive Insurance Making easy to bundle your home in car insurance but I the Dallas cowboys have a problem on their hands. The Dallas cowboys need to figure out whether or not they're going to pay Dak Prescott got his demands and at the same time while the negotiating with Dak Prescott there are rumblings that Ezekiel Elliott is making his way to the table for several weeks E._S._p._N.. N._F._L. Front office in Saudi Jeff Darlington has told me watch Zeke see what's going to happen with Zeke. Don't be surprised by training camp hold out from Ezekiel Elliott and now profootballtalk has an article right now that sources close to Ezekiel Elliott in private conversations have suggested it he may like Melvin Gordon running back of the Los Angeles chargers. He may not show up for training camp that Ezekiel Elliott may try to get paid this year two years out from being a free agent Ezekiel. Gill Elliot will look to get paid now by the Dallas Cowboys. I have a couple of thoughts on this first of all as we spoke to E._S._p._N.. Front office insider Louis Riddick one hour ago. I believe that there is a market correction action coming to the running back position in the N._F._l.. And Melvin Gordon may very well be the flash point of this market correction for years now if you were a great running back if you had this kind of leverage these kind of stats this kind of position in the N._F._l.'s running back hierarchy. You got paid. Look what happened with Todd Gurley fifteen million dollars year forty five million dollars guaranteed look what happened with Devante Freeman in Atlanta and although the Pittsburgh steelers walked away from bell look what happened with lady on Bell and the New York jets thirteen fourteen million dollars a year Razov fascinating stat by E._S._p._N.'s Dan Graziano he said six of the highest paid runningback six of the ten highest paid running backs in the N._F._l.. Miss Time last year because of injury among those some of the running backs I just mentioned devante Freeman signed a new deal mistime time with injury Jerick McKinnon signed a deal to San Francisco Forty niners miss time because of an injury and of course todd Gurley signed a contract as the highest paid running back in the N._F._l.. And Miss Time because of injury and at the same time while that's happening teams are learning they can find not replacement but some approximation of the value at much cheaper price. Nobody makes the argument the James Connor Islam Bell but can you give you seventy percent of Levy on bell at a third of the cost can C. J. Anderson give you seventy percent of Todd Gurley. Only at a tenth of the cost this is the kind of roster management and budgeting decisions that teams have to make and they are seeing examples of that exact market correction. Can I get some percentage of the value of my star for much cheaper than the cost but you have not yet seen outside the Pittsburgh steelers a team absolutely walk away from their star and Melvin Gordon running back the Los Angeles chargers might just be that flash point in his corner negotiations. He has at the Los Angeles. chargers window is now Philip rivers age the quality of that roster the opportunity in the A._F._C.. The window for the chargers is now and it is short it is in the next two to three years and it will most likely need Melvin Gordon but in the chargers corner when it comes those negotiations. What are we talking about? We talking about a top five running back in the league. I don't think so what are we talking about. Do we have somebody else they can come in and give me some approximation of Mel Gordon for much cheaper than the current going rate for top running backs in the league. We have Austin connector and he's looking pretty good. Melvin Gordon may very well be the flash point. He may very well be the market correction or will it be Ezekiel Elliott who is now suggested. It's perhaps perhaps possible Ezekiel Elliott. We'll be looking to get paid right now. I think there are three to four running backs this service the exception to the rule three to four running backs who you go ahead and pay three to four running backs who are irreplaceable and my mind those are right now. Ezekiel Elliott saquon Barkley Christian McCaffrey and I say this one was some hesitation Alvin Kamara. I need to see Alvin. Kamara put the full season together as the BELCO those three to four running backs are special. I need to Dallas cowboys are going to have to pay Ezekiel Elliott and I think they intend to. The problem is they're going to have to do it after Dak Prescott Escot Hey if you missed the show including my opening segment here on the Stephen a Smith show about have we ever seen three players three competitors trading haymakers about who is the best of all time the way we're seeing Federer Jovic coke of it and the doll do so antennas go check it out on demand and the Stephen Smith podcast brought to you by the capital one venture card unlimited double miles on every purchase everyday. What's in your wallet as I've said there's a growing drumbeat within media circles the Dallas cowboys should not pay Dak Prescott and why because they have to manage their roster this exact conundrum you gotta Pay Zeke? You've gotTa Pay Amari Cooper. You GotTa Pay Byron Jones. If you pay Dak Prescott thirty plus million dollars a year you can't put what's needed around him and there are those who suggest he's not the kind of quarterback they can play with an average roster around him. I think those voices are wrong but let me hear from him. I like hunter in Texas on the Shell Pennzoil performance. I'm what's up. Hunter was a will I think that <hes> the cowboys thirty million a year because he averages two hundred forty yards a game and the and yes he's one is division twice twice but one year he didn't get close to win and that was the Zeke wasn't there. That's because the in the defense carry the team and it's in the weakest conference in the N._F._l.. or one of the weakest conferences for sure and that's inaugural hunter I beg to differ. I think it's extremely arguable and I think it's extremely winnable will for me to argue it. First of all Dak Prescott is thirty two and sixteen hundred. That's his record over three years year that you said he didn't come close to one of the Division Dallas cowboys in their down year in the year when they were without Ezekiel Elliott for six games when nine seven. He's never had a losing record hell. He's never had a five hundred record and that's taking account the years it you said showed you some reason to doubt him second the N._F._C. East is the worst division in the N._F._l.. Hundred argues thanks for the call the way no no stay here hunter. I'm sorry but in the past three years the same timeframe we're talking about hunter how many super bowl championships have come out of the N._F._C.'s. You still there hunter yeah to the answer the dancers one. You're right but thanks to help them. Are you more than needed and a three year window. Were Dak has been playing hunter. The Eagles came out of the N._F._C. and one at all. How is this the weakest division in football when they're six divisions across the league and in the last three years this division is produced one of the Super Bowl champions? How does that work hunter the top five on the back talk about changing the argument about how is this the weakest division running back and a top five defense and he can't get them to the N._F._C. Championship game? If he was an elite quarterback he'd be able to do that hunter millionaire in that and a nice pivot man. You moved away from you're losing point real quick. Yeah I think he made two of them. Thanks for the call. One hundred you made to lose points quickly. Try to move to another. I'll make my argument for Dak Prescott just moment but let's see if you can get some kind of tag team. Buddy like Scott in Idaho Scott hundred needs L. tagging men and come in here. I just gotTa think that Dak Prescott is the weakness on their team. I just don't control the fall down with any accuracy and I've just been having a solid running game with with Zeke and the backfield and a solid. Maybe offensive Oh boy. I don't Carson Wentz over. I think they're sixteen an old team every year six. Where does this stuff come from? I'm serious stole. Don't go anywhere Scott. Stay right here. Don't don't take him down wound or cat or don't don't hang up on you. Try to talk to you for months. You apple good well. I'm glad you're here with me because I don't understand where this Scott. I choose my path here. I can be kind of jerk or I can be friendly and it's hard for me sometimes because main what does assist serious now let's talk. What is this come from like? Where does this IM- perception that Carson wentz is all world and Dak Prescott is average come from because it doesn't come from anything that reflects reality? Let's just talk about reality for moment on some of the points that you made Dak Prescott. I believe over the last half season had the highest accurate percentage of any quarterback in the N._F._l.. On deep throws I need somebody to double. Check me on that because I don't want to ever be saying giving false information so Cerruti is run show cats riding shotgun today somebody that's a little bit hard. STATS DIG UP. That's banging around in between my ears somewhere here. Dak Prescott who has a reputation as Deacon Dunk check down artist is anything but but that's my point we Scott. How do we come up with these things? I'm fairly sure when we come back into second. Somebody tells me he's going to be one of the most accurate quarterbacks on deep throws in the N._F._l.. On top of that you also made the argument about is supporting cast. I'm sorry but isn't the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line consistently rated as one of the top offensive lines in the N._F._l.. Ahead of the cowboys most of the time isn't that the care. I don't know about that maybe last year when they were banged up prior two years the cowboys I mean they were unstoppable on the offensive line thirteen and three they ran over people back didn't have to throw the ball at all who won in over people I just I think we developed these ideas in her head in they don't stand up to the stats. That's the scrutiny and we fall back in the end. We got a guy that works on this show named Pat. He's a big eagles fan. He's like I can give them. All these stats is thirty two and sixteen. He's made to the to the playoffs every year. He's been in the N._F._l.. He's one of the division twice he has a better head to head record against Carson Winston in Carson Wentz. He has a higher completion percentage. He's got sixty seven touchdowns to twenty five interceptions Carson Wentz has more touchdowns but then back runs for eighteen touchdowns he beats him in almost every category both statistically and in actually winning football games and and yet we have this perception no Dak isn't that great. You Know Carson would go sixteen to know I swear I don't understand what this stuff comes from at all one more Corey in Texas come on core you got you guys can triple team me. What's up corey okay so uh-huh? I've been listening so I'm GonNa talk about a few things <hes> that you've been fan before about Dak Prescott I do not think back to be getting paid <hes> at thirty million one because that may be the third or fourth best player on the team and so oh that is the leader as far as mentally but that is not the best player on the cowboys and he's not carrying the cowboys period and then you talk about him at Carson Wentz <hes> no obviously you have a better record than Carson Person Wins but when you're talking about Carson Winston and Dak Prescott the biggest thing you talked about with that because the team stat is when you start talking about Carson you name. Everything and Carson has had a M._v._p.. Season I believe he got robbed of the inventory by Corn Brayden Corey Roy a you want to set aside wins and losses which I find absurd and you want to focus on stats right. That's what you want to focus on to make your argument for Carson over deck. Here's the thing about that I win. Dak winds on every stat except for two that is passing yardage and touchdowns Dak wins on completion percentage Q._B._R.. QUARTERBACK rating every game winning drives fourth quarter comebacks every single one except for yards and touchdowns. So what is it that you hang your hat on in the end for Carson Wentz. Is it fantasy football productivity. You could talk about that. I'm not gonNA argue because I know they're they're and they're very close but when we talked about more than stats Carson Carson Wentz says it's not even close 'cause play in has had an M._v._p.. Season you can't say the same about that fine. That's in the in the four years you cannot say. The deck is close to that year Carson wentz before he was out of the playoffs golf he had an earlier. The rivals had a record setting rookie year that rivaled some of the greatest of all time. We're talking about names like Tom Brady here. We start talking about how great he was his rookie season you can you can say m._v._p.. Rookie but it's still wasn't better other than Carson Wentz M._v._p.. Collar seasons and we all know if he doesn't get hurt and and miss those regained GonNa win. Okay okay. I got you okay so here's the thing this is how this conversation goes and you know I make the argument for wins and losses. You say hey don't do team team. Stats you respond with supporting cast and you ignore that the eagles have had a great supporting cast including a super bowl winning supporting cast around Carson Wentz in fact supporting cast it was so great that won the Super Bowl without Carson Wentz so I find that absurd and then you move stats and I point out that you really only two stats and he said okay. Let's ignore stats as well and always comes back to one thing. Would you hang your head on in the wins. Versus deck debate hang your hat on the eye test and that one two thirds of a season that did put Carson Wentz into an M._v._p.. Race and all I'm telling you is you're in the end. After we have the debate we set aside all the things you want to set aside. You're putting all of it by thanks for the call Corey on that one two thirds of a season and doc has three seasons of evidence one two thirds of season that admittedly was better than any moment Dak has had as a as take your sample size that's better but that has three seasons which adds up too much more than Carson Wentz are. Let's move forward the Stephen a Smith show is brought to you by Barbasol after one hundred years of making shaving cream barbasol is finally making razors well. That was no brainer. Try The barbasol ultra six plus today save now at Barbasol Dot com the argument about whether or not Russell Westbrook and James Harden are going to work together to me. What did ignores is the absolute revolution going on across the sports landscape? It continues to focus on the hi dea that individuals and individual talent is the way you win championships and that flies in the face of everything we've seen in almost every team sport over the past decade here was Ryan Holland's once again on E._S._p._N.. I take today laying out. Wide is going to be so great. You Got Russell Westbrook and changed hard on the same. Guess was back for Dantonio. Guess what's back the seven second offense. They're going to push the pace waste. They're going to run. They're not GONNA play slow. James Harden will not have to manage his minutes because he has a guy when he's tired your turn Russ Reservoir your turn James. These two are going to be absolutely dynamic and I get it. I still liked it the Lakers I still like the clippers but guess what you don't want to see these boys first or second round. It's going to be a problem. It's a problem if you believe the way to championships it simply to have the players on the floor. Lord can win their individual matchups but that's not what's going on in sports today. Brian's had a lot of ridiculous things in that like it's going to be returned to the seven seconds or less. Mike d'antoni Phoenix Suns that was passed move. Go driven by Steve Nash what we're looking at here is to players play isolation ball and slowdown the movement of the ball and the players off the ball what more he offers up James Harden is GonNa play off the ball which I don't even know if that's good idea much less. I believe it's going to happen happened. There's so much required optimism and setting aside of egos to believe that James Harden Russell Westbrook going to work together but more importantly it defies the revolution going on in sports. Here's what I'm talking about all right. Anybody's listen to the wheel CAIN show on E._S._P._N.. Radio probably pick this up at some point but my kids are super in to soccer now what that means of New York City and what that means the wintertime's end up playing a sport called Footseoul. I saw I don't know how many guys that listen out there. I've ever heard of football but it's essentially small-sided soccer. It's five on five four in the field and a goalie a little bit like basketball and it's played on a hard court with a little bit heavier ball and it's a very passing oriented oriented game and we went this past week to Atlantic City where it was the national championships for football and the team my kids apart of went to it and man you know what was just so very obvious at this this. Is that the teams that won. It wasn't about no matter what people want to tell themselves. It wasn't about talent deficits. It wasn't about who had the best individual skill players it was one hundred percent about the teams that were organized ran a system and all four boys in the field at the same time new if he does X.. I do why all four players moving you like an like an very sophisticated ecosystem in responsive in coordinated and beautifully choreographed ways that confused defenses and gut got you wide open and by the way it had nothing to do with the ball in their hands. It was guys moving without the ball that gutted teams open. If you think about what's happened over the past couple years this has been that what's happened in sports. It has been a product product of system in organization over talent every single sport. Why don't you think about this okay? I grew up in Texas high. Football is everything in Texas when I was a kid and I was growing up in the eighties. He's in ninety. S The teams that won the State Championship football and Texas with teams that were the biggest strongest fast without a doubt it was who had the best talent on the field and then something weird started happening all of these schools across Texas who are suburban you know on a lot of times you know. Small kids not not blessed with huge sizes changed over time and clearly talent deficit started winning at all. It's time in the nineties was teams like Austin Westlake started winning it. All you know that's not a football powerhouse. Football Paris's Odessa Permian Dallas Carter is who wins at all Austin Wesley was winning at all what happened was they start implementing system starting middle school offenses that they taught every buddy in that school system how to run by the time those boys arrived to high school. They've been running the same often through high school football and seven on seven in the spring and summer until they knew it like it was instinct the back of their hand and they got it everybody across the State Star racking up championships and then here's what's fascinating. Here's what's fascinating all these little quarterbacks who were as I said before perhaps not as talented as the ones you running out before with size and ability but with the ability to execute a system short quarterbacks in fact started going off the D. One colleges and those colleges adopted the same systems and you saw the emergence of quarterbacks named drew brees then Baker Mayfield then collar Murray guys if you were focused on individual talent wouldn't even put into position to play quarterback at you're focused on the system and the system one in everybody adapted. My point is this is not just in football by the way now big twelve from from Texas High School football too big twelve offenses to the N._F._l.. What is the N._F._l.? It's Austin in West Lake. Lake Travis Texas High School football off into its Baker Mayfield and Cleveland Pat Mahomes in Kansas City cuyler Murray in Arizona Twenty is systems and it's happening basketball in the same way pass move. It's the Steph Curry Revolution. It's happened in everything's happening soccer and now you're gonNa tell me 'cause you put Russell Westbrook and James Harden on the same team. The talent is going to be something they can't. They can overcome anything. No what system fits these two guys. It defies the revolution going on sports. I've got more on this. I want to tell you more examples. I want to hear from you as well eight at eight seven to nine three seven seven six you need to a game download the vivid seats APP enter Promo Code Champs at checkout to get ten percent off your first order. Don't buy just NEC. He get a vivid seat all right. I want to hear from you. Plus Ben Simmons has a hundred seventy million dollar Max deal with the Philadelphia Seventy sixers as he worth it. It's coming up on Stephen a Smith Show with wilfing interesting creature habits the flat arid planes of many an automobile dashboard the bobblehead it's most agreeable and will not along to anything despite having no brain function but when the bubble had here's how GYCO not only saves people money Eh also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone. You're not even more vigorously because he knows you should switch because yes switching to geico is a no brainer easy publ at easy. You can get whiplash you too Stephen. A Smith Show podcast will cain filling in for Stephen here on E._S._p._N.. Radio you can normally catch me three to six eastern on E._S._p._N.. Radio E._S._P._N.. APP Siriusxm Channel Eighty and end on E._S._P._N.. News I can give you all statistical reasons that I don't believe Russell. Westbrook and James Harden will work together on the floor for the Houston Rockets. I can tell you about usage rates in how these players some of the highest in the N._B._A.. At their peaks over forty percent usage rate for James Harden Russell Westbrook. How does that work when you put the two of them together? We can talk about Russell Westbrook's spot up shooting his stroke from I'm three and that he shot twenty nine percent. How's that going to work on a team and you can tell me about James Harden playing off the ball and I'm going to be doubtful about both this egos and basketball philosophy but the truth is one of the main reasons? I'm skeptical about Russell. Westbrook and James Harden together is because I went to a foot saul tournament this weekend for my son. Foot tall is hard surface hard court soccer small cited five on five and I watched teams gut in each other the very best in the country. This was the national championships because they worked as cohesive units with off ball movement and players knew what to do in response to each other. They weren't individuals. They were a team. It wasn't about any one player layer skill. It was about the way those teams worked together and I'm here to tell you. This is the secret to winning any team sport in two thousand nineteen. We've seen this revolution. I just laid out what went on high school football in Texas starting in the mid to thousands of really the nineteen nineties where suburban school started winning State Championship after State Championship by running the same system from middle school through high school. It was a system that produced the likes of drew brees and those systems were adopted by big twelve colleges like Oklahoma and then produced quarterbacks like Baker Mayfield in Collar Murray and it's a system that has been adopted in the N._F._l.. That his producing careers like Patrick mahomes in Collar Murray in Arizona. Can you master a system. Can you master off ball movement. Can you get every player on the same page page this trump's talent tapping and soccer greatest clubs in the world like Barscelona run the same system from their Kademi when they're twelve so by the time they reach Lalita. They've all been running it for a decade decade. They know what they're doing and in basketball we've seen it happened with the Golden State Warriors and Steph curry the Steph curry revolution is his off. Yes obviously his shooting but his off ball movement if the players without the ball working together the ones defining winning at every level in every team sport and so I wonder when you take to incredibly talented an amazing individuals i James Harden and Russell Westbrook. How is that not gonNA work? How's that going to win anything? It's not about just getting the best talent is not about having the best player on the floor. It's about five eleven however many players you have on a fielder court all working together at the same time. The Stephen Smith show is brought to you by my computer career dot E._D._U.. Training for a better life that's the revolution going on in sports and that's why I'm doubtful of Russell Westbrook and James Harden together Robin Miami. What's up rob you in the Stephen? A Smith show is will cain. Hey how's IT GONNA will so this is my opinion to me. The rockets are easily cut favorites to come out of a west and I'm GonNa tell you why if Dantonio would've split there and start Tyson Chandler and Capelle at the same time we're looking at a modern day twin towers on defense you got the most dynamic backward in basketball with heart and Westbrook. Remember Westbrook led the League in assists last year. Okay on top of that you plug in P._J.. Tucker who's GonNa play that that dog mentality defense. I don't see how you gonNa tell me harder than Westbrook can't work together. They've done it before because they led the league and usage rate isolation plays drives to the basket each's individuals. You can't do that when they are together. I know what you're doing and I hear everybody's saying Russell. Westbrook led the League in assists Russell Westbrook's assists after pounding the ball into the floor for ten fifteen seconds driving to the basket and kicking <music> out sometimes in desperation by the way to somebody outside. How's that going to work with James Harden? WHO's game is also predicated on him having the ball at his disposal in his hands for long periods in the shot clock until he isolates the perfect shot that he wants the the problem is they're both incredibly amazing individual players rob? I don't know how that meshes together. What have Dantonio brings back that quick offense where they have to put up a shot in less than seven to ten seconds back like in Phoenix Days and you run pick Karol with Tyson Chandler compel all here's a question? Why didn't you do that with Chris? Paul James Harden because I think Chris Paul's athleticism isn't where it was like the difference between Chris Paul Right now and Russell Westbrook to me is Chris Ninety me that's not why did yes correct rob and by the way Chris Paul has injury concerns. That's not why didn't run that offense in Houston. He ran it because the best and by the way most efficient offense in Houston was gave the ball James and surrounded by shooters. Thanks for the call rob in for that matter Chris Paul much better shooter in Russell Westbrook T._J.. In Michigan what's up T._J.. You're on the Stephen Smith show with will cain high well. Thanks for letting me on the show I just wanted to <hes> you brought up a interesting point about Russell Westbrook driving to the whole in passing out and desperation and I think now that if you put Russell Westbrook in that same scenario he now has P._J.. Tucker he now has a James Harden and while. I don't see immediate success happening from this team I have to believe believe that it is an upgrade at the point guard position just because now you have somebody who's just <hes> physically capable could be able to change the one more than Chris. Paul is James Harden runs the point man. James Harden ran in the point for Houston James Harden. I did a top five list of top five point guard N._B._A.. Some weeks ago on the wheel and it was like where's James Harden. I'm like well you know as you really pointed that yes. He's the point guard. He's the Point Guard in Houston. That's my point T._J.. Harden is the point point guard. So what are you with Russell Westbrook. You can play him at the two you can. Garnish want to garters which will is James Hardie which one you're gonNA play to Russell. Westbrook plays the two that's he. She's twenty nine percent percents <hes> three. He's one of the worst in the league spot up shooting so James runs the point he does his isolation he drives and Kicks Russell Westbrook and the defense doesn't have to guard Russell. He doesn't shoot well. Man can't shoot can't drive into a lane already clogged James Harden. Just dished out of yeah. Yeah you're right. I mean look Dan. I believe Dantonio is a good coach are really do but I don't know what you can figure this out. I duNNo. It's a riddle and I'm not trying to just be the Naysayer and try to be negative. The bottom line is they're. Both I doubt this at all. They're both incredibly incredibly talented. You just increase your talent level without a doubt going from Chris Potter Russell Westbrook you increase your talent level but what I'm trying to say. Is this man and look. I'm a sports fan of every stripe and I feel if you're listening right now. Tell me you I haven't seen this. I'm serious no matter how big a fan you are of individual talent. Have you ever seen selfish play. I'm not talking about the kinds like your jerk. I'm talking about the kind where you like no. I'm going to do it all on my own. I'M GONNA do it all my own and what happens to everybody else on the floor in any sport you end up with three guys going well. I'M NOT GONNA make run because he's not gonNa make the pass to me and not just that it's not just I'm not going to be rewarded for my run. I better stay back on D. because if you can do himself there's a decent chance he's GonNa lose the ball. It's breaks everything down so now you have to players who are extremely individually focused and what I'm telling you that I've seen across sports. Landscape is those teams lose. They may may have incredibly high individual talent but they lose two teams football basketball soccer hockey. They lose two teams who can play as a team. Maybe was less talent but the play as team E._S._P._N.. Radio's presented by Progressive Insurance pick from a range of coverage options with the name your price tool to find a price that works for you. Ben Simmons has a new deal in Philadelphia via. Would you have given it to Ben Simmons. It's a Max deal. Someone wants to tell me how to of my arguments Dak and the Houston Rockets actually fit together. That's coming up on the Stephen Smith show with will cain just what you're in the middle of the Stephen Swift Show podcast podcast David Stephen Smith Show on E._S._p._N.. Radio will cain fill in for Stephen. You can normally catch me three to six eastern on E._S._p._N.. Radio Siriusxm Channel Eighty and on E._S._P._N.. News The Philadelphia Seventy sixers and star Ben Simmons ones have agreed to a five year one hundred seventy million dollar maximum extension Simmons Asian Rich Paul confirmed to E._S._p._N.'s Brian Windhorst. Whatever you think of Ben Simmons you gotTa give him this deal at a minimum? That's a trade asset for the Philadelphia Seventy sixers. I believe in Ben Simmons. I'm not yet sure that Simmons and Embiid is going to take the sixers project to the ultimate conclusion the title but I Still WanNa see Ben Simmons put in the optimal situation to succeed. I want to see him. Put in a situation I want to see him put in a situation where surrounded by shooters and he can drive and kick. If you mistaken the show today go check it out on demand Stephen a Smith podcast brought to you by capital and venture card an unlimited double miles on every purchase everyday. What's in your wall? Let me hit up the Shell Pennzoil performance on I will from San Antonio. What's up will they will <hes> just wanted to chime in on? You're saying that Russell Westbrook does not fit into rocket system. I absolutely agree with you. I think <hes> the only way that team can succeed is this they somehow run to sell offense with the transition led by Westbrook and isolation right at the heart and <hes> Rows WanNa tie back the Dak Prescott because you said if if I look fit into that system if dot Prescott fits the cowboys system then they should pay him. I think you're exactly right. I think player fits with system works and you shots pay them but yeah I think the rockets are done and they don't have a good chance this year I totally agree with you by the way and Dak Prescott does fit into the cowboys system both the intangibles and the tangible 's he is val accounts a great leader a great locker room presence a high character guy. That's the kind of guy you want around. That's the kind of guy you want as a leader of your franchise what more he fits perfectly and you could say well. Anybody does with a great offensive line and are running game. He wants to play action. He can bootleg himself and run the ball. Dak Prescott is the perfect quarterback for the Dallas cowboys right now. I think we constantly and I don't care how many times you do it. I don't care how many times you say well. They had to the reason that Russell Westbrook or James Harden played that way because they had to how many times uh-huh as you're sitting there wherever you are in your car service not knowing what you're talking about or whatever say oh the reason he's a selfish ball player is because he has to. I don't care anytime you say it. Say it while you take anelle say it while you lose teams that move without the ball say say it while you understand or proving capable of understanding why you keep losing two teams that have less talented you because talent loses to system Seiji Illinois what's up say during the Stephen Smith Show we'll see with will cain how you doing good name. What's up <hes> I wanNA talk about Russell Westbrook and James Corden? Do you think they're gonNA go into. I mean you're gonNA need superstars GONNA go. I think they're gonNA have a nice regular season and through the first what four five months of the N._B._A.. SEASON SOMEBODY IS GONNA come back. I mean go sees is not working out on the probably GonNa have nice stats bats. They might have a nice win total when it comes to the playoffs are going to lose in the western conference. Semi's that's what happened with Houston. Rockets the minutes put under pressure the minutes tested the minute. They have to sort out the hard questions of who takes the last shot who gets the ball who runs the offense. They really have to sort that stuff out. It'll prove incapable of overcoming teams that run a real offense Brandon Arizona. What's up Brandon you on the Steve Nice Michaud quickly brandon? Well what's going on in. Hey I just wanted to call in. Tell you first off. I love the jump on <hes> Stephen a show and take it over with cowboys talk amazing <hes> but I wanted to get back to the Dak Prescott and Zeke it contract situation and <hes>. I actually think that it's more important than you signed Zeke at this point <hes> and not overpay quarterback that to me fit is yes. He fits into the system but I think he's a product of the system. <hes> and I don't think he should overpay Abra like that all right. Thanks for the call man. I appreciate it appreciate you making it tight as well. Now you pay the quarterback over the running back. That's a reflection of positional value. That's a reflection what we're talking about. The debate teams have to have over guys like Melvin Gordon and maybe soon Ezekiel.

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"The Stephen Smith Show podcast is the present about capital one card when you earn unlimited double malls on every purchase your next trip is closer than you think. Hey what's in your wallet. This is this even a Smith Show podcast the day so damn predictable every single one of US caught open. Our feelings are egos. There's one thing that takes down a dynasty. That's taken down almost every single one of them in might have taken down a dynasty wants more. There's one thing takes everything down ego. Stephen Smith Show on E._S._P._N.. Radio in the E._S._p._N.. APP Siriusxm Channel Eighty and on E._S._P._N.. News will cain filling in for Stephen. You normally catch me three to six eastern all those same television and radio channels and you can always join the conversation at eight say E._S._p._N.. That's eight seven to nine three seven seven six coming up in just a few moments here on the Stephen Smith Smith Show how about some big bold predictions three years out in the N._F._l.. I'm not talking about power rankings. We talked about the other day whose power ranked tops in the League of the next three years. The Indianapolis Colts came in at number one on that but I'm talking about individual predictions players player movements what's going to happen over the next three years in the N._F._l.. We're GONNA TALK TO E._S._P._N.. N._F._l.. Insider about that in just a moment but if you missed any of today's opening segment where I laid out five live destinations who can logistically in perhaps should trade for Chris Paul who's now at least in terms of trade price an absolute value by go check it out on demand and Stephen Smith podcast brought to you by the capital one venture card earn unlimited double miles on every purchase everyday. What's in your wallet? We are so predictable individually and collectively we always fall prey to the same traps <music>. We always egos get the best of us. They have taken down dynasty today. I was listened to the Dan lebatardshow on E._S._P._N.. Radio which precedes this program on National Radio and he was talking about the Golden State Warriors and Kevin Durant's decision to go to the Brooklyn Brooklyn Nets over remaining with the Golden State Warriors where you could make a very real argument that titles were going to keep coming titles titles titles down the road and let me start said. Isn't it amazing what an EGO can do. It's hard to explain forty years from now to people who don't understand what this time was how and why it ended because the absurdity of it that team all it has to do to win for ten years is get along. That's it you don't have to do anything else else and they couldn't do it. They couldn't even last few years that he was there. It's an amazing testament to ego and this dude must have been so unhappy and it's hard to imagine that he would go there and get more of what he wanted wanted in terms of awards and the game's being easy and the credit that he was getting as best player in the world before took it well get along and stay healthy and it was Dan Laboratory on the Dan Lebatardshow and I'm not sure I would characterize it as the problem in Golden State it. was everyone getting along. I mean we do know the Kevin. Durant draymond green had their blow up. We do know about that but I'm not sure it was like they weren't buddies. They didn't like each other. I think that Golden State Squad was more cohesive more copacetic then most collection of eagles. We can bring together but that doesn't mean that ego wasn't something that brought the warriors down. I mean what did durant leave Golden State for Brooklyn Forum. We're really trying to figure it out validation right. He thought man I'll go to state rack up titles. I'll chase Lebron. I will become the goat I will get myself in the conversation for many of US including myself. He did just that Kevin Durant best player Nimby but for most he didn't that validation alluded him banned Wagner Front runner can't beat them join weakest decision by a superstar and N._B._A.. History that's the words of your man's Stephen here on the Stephen Smith Show and here's the thing I agree with Stephen A it was weak but it didn't keep me from giving Kevin Durant the props that he deserved. It didn't keep me from recognizing recognize reality as it had occurred. Katie was the best player in the N._B._A.. Finals M._v._p.'s shoulder the burden. I knew we'd become no matter how how weak I thought the decision was before I recognize the strength of the play but it's still alluded him. Validation reputation elude him in his ego had that little tickle anymore anymore. What's wrong anymore and forced him out of Golden State? It took him to Brooklyn. We'll have a new duo and new pursuit of yes titles but more importantly validation and that's the thing man Egos. That's the Achilles heel of the human condition. I don't try to speak to professorial there. I'll leave that to my buddy Max Kellerman Eagles just what kills dynasties how about that. Let's just get to that. It's what kills dynasties you you can go through history. Just look at this Dallas Cowboys nineteen ninety s what took down the Dallas Cowboys Free Agency. Yes the the beginning of free agency to play a big part of that come on Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones infamously. I could find a hundred coaches ages while Lincoln the ice in a scotch glass at some Mahogany bar in Dallas smoke filled room. I can find one hundred coaches to coach the cowboys to a championship. No was ten scotches in then do it and if he didn't with Barry Switzer but the point is the egos did take down the Jimmy Johnson Jerry Jones Egos how about Kobe shack about the Lakers he goes to problem and extending that dynasty how about the Bulls Jerry Reinsdorf Phil Jackson that thing have to end when it did in the late nineties have another year in it Katie and Draymond or just K. D. N. K. D.. I mean it's taking teams that aren't even championship. Teams is taken down those on the way how about Seattle about Richard Sherman and Russell Wilson but the defense and Russell Wilson Egos Pittsburgh Antonio Brown on Bell Ben Rothlisberger Egos Egos Man a quick side note on he goes really quickly. How about what he goes is doing to you and me right now? How about what it did us in the last couple of days will cain filling in for Stephen here on E._S._p._N.? Radio how `Bout Egos getting US everyone of US including me to give all of our personal private data to Russia. I WanNa know what I look like when I get old how many of us downloaded face APP and the last couple of days yes I see. I want to see what I look like seventy five. Have you seen face APP. Everybody did it Internet's covered up in it. People download the APP push little button says make me Oh face and then Yo look do that. That's a good you know ten second brain tickle like everything in our life. Oh there you go took my little quickly Gerbil Nugget of distraction on the Internet this time. Would I look like when I'm seventy five in exchange the privacy notice there's like by the way you give all of your data and your likeness in perpetuity in perpetual use for any use that they would like in any revenue they can generate to some Russian hackers. Nice will trade very ego. I do wonder though like how did that work because anybody could use my picture. They could put it in not just me so maybe it's in the downloading of the APP. I Dunno all I know is I'm about to hack by Russia and so we're one hundred and fifty million others of us so that's the only thing we got going force. We're all going down together to our egos on faker face APP or maybe not an own slander any business. Maybe it's just totally legit who knows but egos man from dynasty after dynasty salaries egos comparison buddies. I ask Quinn Richardson Former N._B._A.. Player about this yesterday here on the Stephen a Smith show I said don't they compare salaries. We've read about guys who like he's not good. Why's he make more than me? Here's what Q._A.. Say God thank from situation that situation. That's absolutely true and it's on situation is had absolutely nothing to do with it so I think it goes from from from different from time to time to different scenarios Jose Situation. I don't think it's something you could say as uniform across the board either way. I can't say I've I witnessed situations by say gone in the in the wrong way and other times. It's completely nothing to do with at all. That's Clinton Richton here. The Stephen Smith Show with Wilkin yesterday the steelers the seahawks the warriors the Bulls the Lakers the cowboys you can keep going ego after ego after ego taken down dynasties remember it when it takes down Your Dynasty Stephen Smith Show on E._S._p._N.. Radio's presented by progressive insurance protecting commercial vehicles and offering specialized coverages designed to protect your business more at progressivecommercial dot com. Let's do some bold predictions and other today. I caught up with E._S._P._N.. N._F._l.. Insider Dan Glaviano all right. Let me welcome in now E._S._p._N.. N._F._l.. Insider Dan Grazziano into the Stephen a Smith show with will cain today so Dan has a bold piece up on E._S._p._N.. Dot Com. It's one that I love. It's predicting twenty five different crystal ball. All predictions for the N._F._l.. Over the next three years three twenty twenty two anybody can do one anybody we'd be free this take something about exactly so. I'M GONNA walk through a few of them with you Dan and ask you about these first. Let's start with this cuyler Murray and the Arizona cardinals cardinals will win at least one division title the next three years. I think the offense they'll put together. We'll be there will be accepted enough that it'll it'll propel them that way. I don't think it can be this year because I don't think they have the offensive line right yet. Maybe they do. Maybe they make a big jump there but I think like once they start investing there some of the young receivers come through. I think they're going to be able to score enough points in Arizona to to to deliver a playoff appearance division title over the next three years I mean the rams are the top right now. You know they're very good. They're a little bit highly leveraged. You saw them lose a couple of key guys in the off season so we'll see how they recover from. That isn't a doubt them yet but they could be a short window kind of team. It's less the rams fascinates me about this prediction and the other two teams. You have the cardinals leapfrogging everybody sort of waiting on the San San Francisco Forty niners a moment when is it to Kyle Shanahan and Jimmy Garoppolo come together for something special and nobody to my estimation that I can seize yet predicting the devise of the Seattle seahawks. We all do that last year well not many people did that last year I mean they were. They were the kind of team that you thought Oh they. They lost so many but you know You keep coaching quarterback at that level. You know you're gonNA put something together so there are drafting develop team the believes in their ability to to keep going it yeah. It's too soon to count them out forty niners yeah this a big year for them. They don't show it now then the excuses start to run low kyle Shanahan entering year Shanahan's inch of a six year deal but you know so it gives them some security but you know you start to lose a little bit of that confidence in excitement if you don't start showing if Garoppolos healthy healthy and they don't have the injury problems injury prone they've got to deliver. They've got a win some games or else people start to wonder about the long-term viability of it all right Dan Grazziano here twenty five predictions over the next three years. Here's one of them. He's laid out on E._S._P._N.. DOT COM KIRK COUSINS CNN's will sign a contract extension with the Vikings so I think the question for this is how good or better yet how bad this kirk cousins have to be be for this not true. I think the Vikings are going to have to have a poor season season like an another out of the playoff season in order for them to start start looking for if they have the year that I think they can have which is a division championship season then I think you look at a guy with one year left on his contract who's perfect all and they start talking extension your next offseason they'll have to I mean we know the third years fully guaranteed they could play it out. He certainly no he certainly to that right and playing on a contract here but I think I think they're they're in position to do some good things and if they win enough games yet enough games last year and I know lots been made about his record against winning teams and he knows that he's got to do better but I think there's a step forward coming forward coming in this year that will propel him into the conversation about all right. He's the guy here for the for the long term Dan I think kirk cousins is an average is an ashley slightly above average quarterback in the N._F._l.. Which essentially means he's around fifteen fourteen sixteen if you ranked your quarterbacks across the N._F._l.? But what I feel but he has while the I've had this conversation on the wheel Cain show here on E._S._p._N.. Radio that you don't WanNa find yourself paying top hopped up top quarterback play. What I see is more and more teams afraid to walk away in what what I guess I take away from that Dan and tell me the alternatives? I don't know starting at like sixteen seventeen so right when you get to that below average slightly below average below average is terrifying for N._F._l.. Teams remember when the Oh bugs bunny cartoons. Where are the roadrunner cartoons? Excuse me we're Wiley. Coyote would run off the cliff would run off the running and there's nothing underneath them anymore. That's teams are afraid of feeling like that about quarterback and you're absolutely right. I mean the Dallas I mean look the believe in Dak Prescott but part of their you know willingness to extend him at what I think will end up being very high level is yeah. If we don't then where are we. We're in that quarterback wilderness where we don't know who it's going to be year to year week to week. Sometimes nobody wants to be. You're absolutely right that is a big part of the motivation at at quarterback right now the positions in better shape than it was a couple of years ago in terms of the death league-wide but the idea of having your guy hi and being certain who it is is really driving force in a lot of these and we've really never seen one team walk away from a quarterback Kirk cousins previous employer with the Washington redskins said to themselves. We've seen everything there is to the kirk cousins experiment but I got imagine imagine we were talking about. This pre show Dan like the Detroit lions that as you pointed out the Dallas cowboys the Minnesota Vikings will not at Stafford Dak Prescott or kirk cousins. They'RE GONNA pay whatever it takes to keep their guys because because it's that level of certainty right like if you go back to southern Mike Shanahan told me once it was after ironically. He drafted Robert Griffin than he thought he was said when when you're when you're set at quarterback when you believe you're set of quarterback all your other decisions get easier. You know the the grass looks greener. You know the birds chirp a little a little brighter like everything about your outlook on your team changes for the better and I think that's that that's where you know. If you're the Detroit lions. You got enough problems all of a sudden. You don't know who your quarterback is going to be. Look at Washington. Obviously they thought they had covered with Alex Smith but unfortunate disastrous injury to him now. They're gonNA bring three guys to camp that they don't know which one's going to start and how many games each one's GonNa Start mean there. There's a lot of mystery there and there's no comfort that goes along with that with that E._S._p._N.. N._F._l.. Insider Dan Grazziano here on the Stephen Smith show with Wilkie and he's got a call them up on E._S._p._N.. Dot Com twenty five bold predictions over the next three years of the N._F._l.. Speaking of quarterbacks changing teams you predict that Eli Manning we'll play for a team. I like this one because I think I think Eli Manning doesn't think he's done and if he plays it all well this year. It doesn't matter I mean they're. They're going to go with Daniel Jones if not if not some point this year the next year. He's a number six picking the draft I if he plays well I think he's going to be in position where he wants to keep it going. Get another contract and show he can still do it. He's not he's not particularly old. <hes> in in this era of quarterback performance he can last probably another couple three years physically. He's never been hurt. You know he believes he's. He offers something in terms of reliability so yeah I think he's he's a guy that looks for work else I mean unless he just goes off a cliff this year but I don't know that that's necessarily guaranteed to happen. The way the way their offense is going to run in terms of the short completions in high percentage and all that stuff I think I think you can come out of this year convinced that Eli Manning has something left and if he's convinced that then yeah I think he's going to be looking around for starting opportunity somewhere else. I just have such a hard time seeing Eli Manning as traveling veteran looking for job. We just laid out the quarterback landscape in below that below average category that we laid out is teams full of rookie quarterback's teams in the Josh Rosen. Dwayne Haskins drew lock. Let me see what I have for the future type of a situation I I don't see Eli manning fallen into that case keenum category so what he really travel on the League looking at the one or two teams that are in need of average veteran quarterback whether some interesting possible options right if Marcus Mariota doesn't have a good year year than Tennessee's looking right if drew brees retires than allies father's team is looking right so <hes> you know you have some some spots where things could open up and Tom Brady could retire right. I mean Ben Rothlisberger. Philip rivers these guys getting toward the end so there are some interesting writing potential destinations where that rookie successor is not necessarily in line and I think that's that's interesting. Of course you don't know again. Injuries are a part of the game you wouldn't have. You would have expected an opening in Washington this year so there's stuff that we don't foresee but yeah I think there's some interesting potential situations next year that where he wouldn't necessarily have to fight off a young Guy Tennessee and New Orleans those are fascinating situations depending on a lot of things right I mean we don't know what's going to happen APP. Marcus Mariota could make the pro bowl. Is your sign a long-term deal but he's got got show something right another guy you have changing teams of the next three years guided just signed with his current team. That's lady on bell changing teams. Again is a point about the contract. It's really a two year contract the levy on bell signed with the jets and they can get out of it after two years. He's actually if they if they wanted to easier to trade next off season that he would have been this year so a lot has been made about the relationship with the new coach Adam gays whether he was on board with the contract. You know they're going coexist right. Now and things seem fine but you know if things go wrong if they don't win you know we've seen gays as a guy that isn't afraid to to ship guys out of town even when they're high performers so I think the point is two years and there's always so much uncertainty with that franchise franchise that I could definitely see that being something that that where he changes teams yet again E._S._P._N.. N._F._L. Insider Dan Graziano here on the Stephen a Smith show with will cain fillon and he's got a call them up with twenty five bold predictions over the next three years in the N._F._l.. We talked about Eli manning changing teams on bell changing teams one other guy that Dan suggests will be changing teams of the next three years is Miami Dolphins quarterback Josh Rosen now when he went to Miami Dan I laid this out over on the will cain show. I said the poor guy has been put in a situation where it's GonNa be impossible for him to succeed. It's terrible team with a terrible offensive line and a team that already seems to be in the mode of tanking for two or just in Herbert or whoever it may be at the top of the quarterback draft next year so I don't know what Josh Rosen can do to truly really succeed. The answer. I'm sure is win right. Go ahead and win yourself into a position where you have a job but let's assume that doesn't happen. I don't think the league should be done with Josh Rosen. I assume somebody out there still believes this guy can be a franchise quarterback top ten pick a year ago so yeah. Look the dolphins are in a position where they're not heavily committed. Arizona pay the signing bonus so the the dolphins if they if he's not there guy can move on with almost no pain in terms of <hes> of money. That's left on the deal after this year so it's all upside for them for him. He's got a first of all you gotTa beat out Ryan Fitzpatrick and start and yeah I think they would have to win but you know I think into a situation where they win five games or six games right and now they're not picking in the top three and Rosen played well showed enough then maybe you could be a situation where we weren't in position a draft to or Justin Herbert but this guy was a top ten. Pick in two thousand eighteen has shown enough so you know I I kind of. I think you kind of if you like Josh Rosen. If you think he can be good you Kinda pull for that outcome become that he shows enough in Miami and and establish himself as the starter their long-term but it seems like I'm with you. I think the dolphins are in a mode of looking beyond this year and I think he would have to do something spectacular for them this year in order for them to lock in on him beyond our last prediction with Dan Graziano here on the Stephen Smith will cain seems to be one that we share an opinion on and that is the league is thrown dirt on the Pittsburgh steelers a little bit too early right all the hype around the Cleveland Browns. You predict that over the next three years to Pittsburgh steelers dealers will win more A._F._C. North Division titles in the Cleveland browns which could mean to one or one nothing so it's not but yeah I mean this is Mike Tomlin and Ben Rothlisberger have never had losing seasons of they've never ever lost more games than they've won in a season so I I think people underestimate and I also think the steelers are going to be a real chip on their shoulder unit this year because Brown's haven't won the division since nineteen eighty nine steelers all the time. What are the browse and when you have a when you have an organization that's used to winning and all of a sudden everybody jumps on the bandwagon of a team? That's never ever one that I organization starts to get its backup. I remember as my covered the Yankees years ago and people like Oh. You know this could be Tampa Bay's year in the Tampa Bay come on once it was is but it took a while but yeah I think the steelers are going to have a real rallying cry. This year in terms of people are giving up on us. That's all coaches used that they can actually say it. I mean the browns are going to be. Everybody's picking the A._F._C. North so yeah I I have a feeling the steelers are going be highly motivated and still well-coached and still well quarterback and they're gonNA be real tough to deal with all right. Dan Appreciate it. You got that's E._S._P._N.. N._F._L. Insider Dan Graziano who has his call them up twenty five bold old predictions over the next three years in the N._F._l.. Go check it out on E._S._P._N.. Dot Com all right. We didn't talk about their Aaron Rodgers and his relationship with his new coach. We didn't talk about whether or not Mitch Trubisky can get Chicago bears over the Hump into real super bowl convention. We didn't talk about Kirk cousins while we did when I gets new deal but can he do it this year with the vikings the N._F._C. North is full full of quarterback questions Thursday night. Just be one guy one quarterback who has the fewest questions dancer. I'll it out coming up in just a minute here on the Stephen a Smith Show on E._S._p._N.. Radio with will cain filling in for Steven when it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste. I you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot Com post. 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Thank Stephen Alexa summer. Here is the top fiber rolling stones beast burden. That's in my top five pre cal. Maybe a little Maggie may hey rod stewart in there and then we gotta go full country for the rest of the top five beasts burden. I got out of Steven A. if that's his jam to Stephen Smith Show on E._S._p._N.. Radio will cain fill in for Stephen as you can normally catch me three to six eastern on E._S._p._N.. Radio the E._S._p._N.. E._S._P._N.. APP Siriusxm Channel Eighty and on E._S._P._N.. News and if you missed any of today's show go check it out on demand and Stephen Smith podcast brought to you by the capital Venture Card or an unlimited double miles on every purchase everyday. What's in your wallet the beginning of the show today today? I laid out the teams that should make a D._o.. Can make a deal and should consider making deal. What is a value by at this point? That's Chris Paul Point Guard begin to the back to that in just a moment here on the Stephen a Smith show but I just talking about egos taken they can down dynasties and Matt in Delaware Stephen. A Smith show was Wilkin. What's up Matt today doing doing all right? How are you doing? I'm doing good today all right yeah I I just had him point on what you said about Egos I think the four biggest egos and the whole league are all playing together in two different pairs <hes> that being Kevin Durant and Kyrie I think that's one anyone be utilize and then brought James Russell Westbrook in the second pair of biggest ego than the League but I think both scenarios are GonNA end up different. Though I think actually Russell James are going to end up winning a lot more games than Kyrie in Katie. You'RE GONNA end up winning well. Here's the thing that I I actually like how your framing is. I don't know that I would say the biggest egos in the league. But how about this the most explosive pairing of EGOS in the League. We don't have any idea what's going to come of K. D. and Kyrie together I mean we're here that they're buddies bodies. They've never been together and he kind of long-term partnership but we're talking about one guy who's proven very sensitive to any kind of criticism searching for validation no matter how much professional or personal achievement he gets. It seems to be not enough to fill the void and another guy who at best we're just going to have to say is Inigo Matic. I mean I don't even know what to say about Kyrie Irving all I mean I don't know earth is flat. It's not flat if there is no distraction. If you're very much woke his latest yet another one what was the newest one Oh yeah when he oh bowel reports reports he walking into a team meeting Rad. Stephen Says Hey Kyrenia morning car races coach. What does the term government mean to you in Kid Outta here man? I don't need that stuff yeah who knows how that's going to end. I mean Kyrie and Katie together. I don't know and Westbrook and Hardin man. That's just that's that's. That's explosive in terms of two guys need the ball want the ball Alpha Guys WanNa be. The finishers want to be the ball handlers. Nobody's GONNA take a back seat in that relationship so but they're buddies again but it's been a long time. It's been seven years and there's been a lot of personal growth in that time frame a lot of independence a lot. I'm the man so how's that going to come together. That's let's say that's explosive. Will Cain fill in for Stephen. Let's move to football A._F._C. North. I'm sorry check that N._F._C.. North four quarterbacks four quarterbacks with some questions to answer Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay Mitch Trubisky in Chicago Matt Matt Stafford in Detroit and Kirk cousins and Minnesota but which quarterback has the most questions to answer. I let me go to Johnny and Georgia what's up. Johnny on the Stephen. Smith show is will cain will commits a big fan and when you're talking about Ego Jack the biggest ego on the planet has got to be Max Kellerman for sure anyway the Stafford <hes> I watched I appreciate you at least Stafford the top fifteen quarterback <hes> on the show today because he never get to respect on any of the sports candles <hes> but I think that Stafford actually probably ten <hes> giving back that he's only had a thousand yard rusher one one time is all career <hes>. He's only had one hundred yard rusher first time last year says Reggie Bush did it <hes> no offense have lines but I think the lions are actually probably a year now know about this year but. Next year there on the verge of some big things and it's never would have had a playoff win if it wasn't for the bogus pick up the flag pass interference. I guess you're down now now now. Now you know that was a bogus call but that would have been as I playoff win. You just take a shot in the dark here Johnny Yeah. It's going to Georgia yes sir. I don't know how to figure that yeah well. I grew up in. I grew up in Detroit but I was stationed that store so I stayed. I got out of the Army so you went to Georgia and you are from Detroit. Yeah you're about as close as it gets to a Matt Stafford Fan as he gets right. I mean yeah actually last two years has even tickets flew back for every game man. Here's what I'd say. Thanks for the call. Johnny I appreciate and I appreciate you. Tell me you present have messed Stafford's back. The question on I take today to Johnny saw was is Matt Stafford overrated rated. I made the argument that he is not Matt. Max Kellerman made argument that he is with his number one overall selection in the draft and it's twenty seven million dollar contract in his Owen Three playoff record with no division titles Mass Kellerman contended that Matt Stafford Word is overrated. Here's what I had to say. Matt Stafford got paid what he was paid because he reached the pay window at that time twenty seven million dollars was what quarterbacks for making and soon that will have him right about where he is in in the league which is probably as Johnny ten eleven twelve and get back to that in just a second and also he's a franchise quarterback until he's taken number. One overall Stafford has had a five thousand yard season. He's had a forty plus. Touchdown season hasn't had them in a while but but I believe he's been surrounded by nothing for a long time. I'm not talking about his weapons. I'm talking about his offense his running game his offensive line. I believe the Matt Stafford is the second best quarterback in the N._F._C.. North North on I think he goes Aaron Rodgers and then Matt Stafford. I believe you can despite the fact that they've Never WanNa playoff game and let me get you some this is this is serious at some point. I acknowledged. He's got a win. It's got to translate but I think Matt Stafford can win and my my parallel is Tony Romo. I don't think Stafford is as good as Tony Romo ever was but I know that when Tony Romo was rained in given a strong running game given an offensive line Tony Romo without being the gunslinger that he was became a better quarterback. That's what Matt Stafford Needs May Be Daryl Beverley. WHO's coming over from the Seattle seahawks? Is that offense coordinator. Maybe carry on Johnson is that running back on into his second year but I believe Matt Stafford who throws the ball downfield. Who's going to give you two to three touchdown to interception ratio? Who's going to complete sixty? Six percent of his passes is the second best quarterback in that division and if I'm lining up quarterbacks in the the N._F._C. North he's actually want to have the least questions about I think I know who Matt Stafford is now back to who he is. I said this morning on first date. Twelve thirteen I think year ago Ahmad even had him closer sorta five. I gotta be real about that. He's probably in that ten eleven twelve range I think he's below Dak Prescott and below Carson Wentz. I think he's above kirk cousins. I think Matt Stafford is good. Would he has something more to prove if he's great but when it comes to the other quarterbacks that division think about this can Aaron Rodgers be coached by a first year head coach. Is it going to work out with Matt the floor is he gonNa let him call his plays as you're not gonNA audible out of them as you're not gonNA freelance by like he did a year ago which by reports where he did almost half the time with Mike McCarthy can kirk cousins live up to his deal can perform with that vikings his team up to the level that case keenum did kirk cousins has questions to answer and Mitch trubisky going into his third year has a team that is good enough. Is he good enough to be the leader of that Chicago bears team that TAKES THEM TO PLAYOFF SUCCESS DUnno. If you're asking questions about those N._F._C. North quarterbacks I have the fewest about Matt Stafford and I'll take him second in a draft among those four quarterbacks all right got one second eleven Stephen Smith show with will cain. You can normally catch three to six eastern on E._S._P._N.. Radio I asked or I told you earlier where and who should look Chris Paul as a value by and make a trade. I get to your calls next on E._S._P._N.. Radio Wilkin for Stephanie Guess what you're in the middle of Stephen Smith Show podcast Devon got an update from the open championship at Royal Portrush in Northern Ireland too big names to busts of a day so far tiger woods is six over through seventeen holes in Roy mcelroy from Northern Ireland a favourite going into this tournament eight over and he is through eighteen. Today is in the clubhouse at eight over. He had a quadruple bogey on the first whole some big names J. B. Homes first of all is your leader at five hundred followed by Shane lowery and Jon Rahm. Here's some some big names for you over at the Open Championship Brooks Kepco is three under Justin rose and Jason Day are both at two-under and Jordan speeds and Ricky Fowler are at one under-par within striking distance after the first day at the open championship. Let's it up to shell pennzoil performance line and Stephen a Smith Show on E._S._p._N.. Radio will cain filling in for Stephen. You can normally catch me three to six eastern on E._S._p._N.. Radio and E._S._P._N.. News let's go to Dan and Kansas City. What's up Dan Anyway? Well how you doing all I can make two points. I think the Celtics they're going to be a force would Kemba Walker next year and I always heard that Chris. Paul wants to play with Lebron. Do you think the Lakers will have enough to case a well. How Nice Day thanks Dan appreciate it? I do not think the Lakers have the the contracts the players to pull off now right now. Okay come December when they can trade guys. They signed him free agency. I played with them last night on the trade machine it could put contagious caldwell-pope well pope in there and no man's hard to get to thirty eight million dollars. That's the thing Chris Paul's thirty eight million dollars a year right now and you got out of salaries to get close to that a little bit earlier in the Stephen a Smith show as for right now right now I gave you five live teams that I thought had the contracts and ability to pull it off in at least should think about pulling off a trade for Chris Paul who at least in terms of trade value trade price is a value by terms contract. It's expensive is gates what you have to give up as low as it gets right now. Those five teams number five the Dallas Mavericks number four the Minnesota Timber Wolves number three the San Antonio Spurs number to Orlando Magic and number one of course is the team that everyone has us Chris Paul penciled into and that is the Miami Heat but the Miami Heat currently have to draft picks that live in Oklahoma City may want him back. They want him back as the tax for taking on Chris Paul's contract I will say this. There's two other teams that just land outside my top five teams that I did consider and play with one of them was the New York Knicks New York Knicks have stockpiled about three or four powerful words at fifteen million dollars a year. You put a couple of those together new. Get to Chris Paul's contract status. Nick said they're not interested in Chris Paul but come December when they can trade guys who are signing free agency he tell you this. The Knicks can get it done and the other team and this is just weird but you have to deal with the fact that the N._B._A.. Is Weird is the Washington Wizards John Wall for Chris Paul. You have to throw in a little more with John Wall to get it done but if we're gonNA trade what Westbrook for Paul how about wall for Paul I can't make sense for either. I'm like why would the wizards go in on Chris Ball his deal. Both of them have ridiculous deals is one year shorter than John Walls so the wizards get out from under one year of that contract and what are the thunder under get out of that like maybe the John Wall they convince themselves as a centerpiece for their rebuild but I doubt it doubt that seriously they're already got shake. You'll just Alexander and they think they're gonNA try him out at point guard but I mean who knows an N._B._A.. Who knows all right so let's go to Eli in Kentucky? What's up Eli? You're on the Stephen. A Smith Show is will cain Brown here like playoff contenders you lie. I do think they're going to be playoff contenders. I think they're one of two teams. Thanks for the call in the A._F._C.. North that are playoff contenders. I laid it out yesterday. I think it is one of the weakest divisions in the N._F._l.. As far as producing superbowl contenders steelers and Browns playoff contenders I don't see either of them <unk> as real superbowl contenders this year but you know what my thoughts are on the Brunswick. Everybody thought sorry like most hype team in the N._F._l.. Right now everybody loves the BROWNS. I saw the steelers over the browns in the division all right it was going to ask you my rental core question but I'm F- to save that here's the question okay. Let's talk about this tomorrow do when you're at the rental car place and you can pick from your I'll. Do you ever get the Compact S._U._V..

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AFC that's just me got a slew slew of important. NFL Games coming your way this weekend on including the Sunday night football green bay it say a friend Sunday afternoon Football Dallas at at Ed New England Eagles playing Seattle. Those are just some of the few games that stand out in your mind so of course I'm GonNa have the lines open for that. Who Do we have here today? New No new Noticiero Tech Sierra My producer extraordinaire who's usually will will k- completely betrayed me and and and went and went to a cave but that's all right. We'll kate needed all the help. He and he's got it now in new no. I'm only playing well. I'm only playing you know that But anyway it's good to see new back for change still. Don't know what these Mexican Portuguese anything like he hasn't told me JC but has a different story for another day. Still trying to hide its heritage to be. I don't understand understand it. I don't understand the guy can't be honest about the secretary's I don't understand it but nuno still hasn't told me still haven't figured it out. So we got we got some stuff to get into Tzu IRREGARDLESS Linnet Eleby Boxing promoter the CEO for Mayweather Promotions. obviously works in concert with the PBC ABC WBZ heavyweight championship. Fight the Saturday night. I believe it's at the MGM Grand Las Vegas King Kong Luis Ortiz. He's in a rematch against The man that the Tommy the Hitman hearns of the heavyweight division The one and only deontay Dante Wilder deontay wilder is forty one. Oh and one would forty knockouts. That's the wild Luis Ortiz. Thirty one. In one with twenty six knockouts. The only loss of his career has come against the wild. And so it's GonNa be real interesting to see What transpired that fight? I think that the wilder wins again. I think he takes Ortiz out. I don't think I'M GONNA agree with Teddy at list. Great Teddy Atlas said. It's GONNA be early not late I think it's going to be a little bit later. Like the last time round the ninth or the tenth around. That's my personal opinion but you never know that right hand from deontay wilder will put anybody to sleep is just a matter of when not if so. That's something we'll get into also also it's appropriate that Leonard Alabi. My brother. I've known for many years I know on well loved the Guy Looking forward to talk to him. Leonard Alabi it's appropriate that he's GonNa be on because Floyd Money Mayweather announced on social media that he indeed is planning on coming out of retirement to fight in twenty twenty now. If you are some of the elite he heavyweights. I'm starting what am I saying. Delete Welterweight in Boxing Watson. Today I mean this is Christmas. Come early 'cause anybody that flights floyd mayweather there's going to get paid. You know what people do. They go pay because they takings beyond his prime. He stepped away from the game. He doesn't have it anymore. And as a result he's GonNa get knocked out and last time you saw. He looked very very sluggish Conor McGregor the UFC fighter. That decided to step into the boxing ring. Because Floyd knew he didn't have to do anything to beat them so he didn't train and let me tell you the right now. There are very very few things more attractive to boxing aficionados battles. Excuse me just boxing lovers then see Floyd Mayweather lose off. Potentially you get knocked out. Does a whole bunch of people that WanNa see that. And they don't pay money to see it in Florida will give it to them because he'll get in the ring and just completely really school and give boxing lessons to people. At least that's what I see. Only person that scares me for floyd is Kamilo Alvarez. Sulking it'll Alvarez as a light heavyweight now so we're good. We're absolutely good with that I'm straight. He got worried about another Alvarez. Because there's already come down to welterweight division in a fight him so all of that stuff to get into. And you could call right here into Stephen Smith show on. ESPN radio and ESPN news eight say ESPN two nine. Three seven seven six. But there's a couple of things we get into. I got the lines open because I know people want to get at me as a continuation of yesterday's conversation. When when I had to address the whole te'o thing you know saying Max's blacker than me because of what I was saying about Colin Capitalistic Now had to deal with with that In Defensive Teo however I want to make sure the correct for the Record A. T. O.. was going back and forth. I forget what who on twitter yesterday and somebody said to him. You Clamor for the airwaves and you want to come on. I taken to Yo was like they call him. Posted some text message from one of the I take producers. Let me tell you something Teo. I thought he asked to come on because I was teasing his his segment or I take coming out with us. I was teasing it thinking that he has to come off because the producer told me he asked to come on. I did not know that produce had reached out and asked Te'o to come on I take so when Teo says that he was asked that he didn't ask to come on. He was asked to come on. I did not not know that. So let me make sure for the record so he doesn't take anybody's lying on him If he says a producer Kaltim. That's what happened. I haven't checked with the producer but Teo says that I believe I was just teasing his appearance on the show and and I was told that he had asked to come on. That's all we all at mishap game now before I get into that revisiting that which I will. 'cause nobody's hiding. I wanted to get into this miles. Jared situation evolve in the Cleveland browns. And you know what happened last Thursday night when he ripped off Mason Rudolph Helmet Ultimately throw a haymaker with the helmet at Mason Rudolph connected where Mason Rudolph's let's head but didn't do any damage Before he was taken to the burned to the ground by the cash offensive Lineman for the Pittsburgh steelers and the Marquees pouts on them hitting and kicking him and he kicked wants. It hit do numerous once once. He saw his quarterback get hit in the head with a helmet for the racquet His appeal was heard yesterday. Along with various others Maki's pounds announced. He had his suspension reduced from three games to two. I like that guy that puts what who was the guy that pushed the ogan Haute put his name. That puts me in a bank. Nuno or are you GonNa talk to me talk to me. Nuno Leno went Ogan. Jovi I believe Steve He puts me in the back he still his one game suspension was upheld miles. The Gary Ogunjobi. I'm sorry Ogan Jobe. Is His name vase. Garrett suspect six game suspension or basically suspended for the rest of the season that suspension was upheld. As well I have no problem with any of those decisions I thought pouncey suspension should have been reduced. I thought job he should have spend four game. I personally believe Mason. Rudolph should have been suspended for game and of course myles Garrett should have been suspended for the rest of the season. I have no problem with that. Can't do what he did. Play this up. You can't take a helmet omit and swing A. Hey make winning helmet in your hand to a player without a helmet on his. Hey can't do that first of all even with the helmet on and say here's supposed to be doing that but definitely definitely without him with on the can't do that can't do that. He's lucky get more. They might get more because it's an indefinite suspension. Listen it's an indefinite suspension. Now he gives an explanation the nation to the NFL yesterday and according to the reports myles Garrett says that Mason Rudolph utter a racial slur in his direction. And that's why he lost it couple of points to make here myles Garrett in his defense said that he thought that what the appeal situation that it was it would be kept quiet and it was not something that was going to be disseminated to the public so he was privately avidly telling the NFL that that's not something he meant to tell publicly mason. Rudolph attorney emphatically denied such thing saying it was a lie and that such an accusation to paraphrase is doing more damage to Mason Rudolph than the actual hit to the head with a helmet in other words calling Maoz Garrett's accusation an allegation etc.. More heinous more than the actual swinger of the helmet head. Let me get the easy part. Out of the way I to Mesa Rudolph's attorney with all respect. We don't give a damn what you have to say. I'm not saying that you were wrong to do it. That's your job. What I'm saying is that I know that if I were a reporter in Pittsburgh? There's no way I don't see Mason. Rudolph and instantly I go up up to him and ask him. Is it true. Did you say that. I want to hear the denial from Mason Rudolph in a roundabout about way. I'M GONNA say this guy's his none of his attorneys business. There's no legal charges be filed by myles. How's Garett? Why do you need an attorney to answer that question? Answer the question and I'm not saying for one second. I believe that Mason as Rudolph did that. What I'm saying is that is for him to deny that? Offer his attorney to deny. Why do you need an attorney to deny not that you made a racial epithet at another player? You can't do that so I would want to hear for Mason Rudolph directly on until I hear from him if he says he didn't say it. I think he should be believed. I think he desert benefit of the doubt. I got news for you. I don't want to hear from his attorney. Mas guarany talking about suing you because you uttered a racial apathetic direction if indeed that case. He's just saying you did it. It's a yes or no answer and it doesn't require an attorney you see some of these attorneys sometimes and the stuff they give us quotes. I regret that I didn't go to law school. Because that's actually the professor. I wanted to be a criminal lawyer. I regret that I didn't go to law school. I mean if you can make money by simply issuing a statement. They've been saying that somebody didn't say something when it requires no legal issue whatsoever you talk about getting money for free. I get paid for not for doing nothing. I want to hear for Mason Rudolph fondness. Now let me get to Myles Garrett my brother other you do understand is pretty hard to believe what you're saying right. I'm not calling MOSGAARD ally. I'm not saying he did or didn't happen. I don't know. Let me tell you something that I do highly suspect in Dare I say no if somebody's use the N.. Word in your direction. Or some kind of racial epithet. That insulted you infuriates you. You doesn't take you a week to inform people about it. That's number one number two. There's a microphone. There were microphones in front of your face in the immediate aftermath of the fight. Hi You seemed very composed calm cool and focused on what you course not that might be provocation to address things in a fashion that you did did not tell everybody but nobody in the media you know we could talk about the players all we want to who emanating from that locker room. He's telling the players such and such a thing you don't know anybody in the media reporter television report on Radio Talk Radio. Yeah I know a few others in Cleveland doing outstanding job or sports talk radio. Couldn't tell what can you tell one of the beat writers. The newspaper industry cover you. Couldn't told somebody with a camera. I mean introduce you to racial epithets and you lost it. You trying to tell me you hold onto that I four week. I'm just saying the last thing I'm GonNa say the obvious the very obvious if myles Garrett is right shame on Mason Rudolph if myles Garrett is is not telling the truth shame myles Garrett time will tell. NFL scoured video and sound. And and you know things like that and they could find any evidence according to the NFL office. They cannot find any evidence that Mason Rudolph headset such myles Garrett reaction is I know what I heard. Okay I think that myles Garrett would have had a better case new he said he called me an MFA or the B word like that. It only reason I say that is because there's a whole bunch of black players around fierce pew that word they might hurt them. They hurt although I can assure you the problem in an eight say. ESPN edited seven to nine. Three seven. Seven six back to the cabinet thing I state my show on. ESPN every weekday morning from today in the noon eastern seven to nine am Pacific with Max Kellerman and Molly Kiro. Even though today Arroz gold on route filled in as she always does admirably for Molly Kerin and we had Hugh Jackson former head coach for the Cleveland Browns in attendance. Why was he here because he was the individual scheduled to work out Colin capital last Saturday according to huge accent? He didn't find out that Colin Cabinet will not be coming until two fifty PM ten and minutes before Colin Kaepernick's scheduled workout. But you don't WanNa hear me listen to you Jax. I wanted to go create the right environment for him to be the best he can be. And as you get into the day you know the hours are passing and you still think in taking through this process that you're going to take this young man through and then all of a sudden you start hearing that this might not happen and then about two fifty for me. I knew for sure wasn't happening and I go. You know it just it fell apart. So that's why we're all sitting here today. Talking about it so to be clear you found doubt ten minutes before his scheduled workout that there would be no workout. Absolutely they have now. I'm not going to get into too much about how I feel. You know where I stand I think that my words have been misconstrued and I understand why and I think that even though I I thought it was a low blow by Teo and all of that stuff I do think I understand where he's coming from. You know because because you're black people expect you to March a certain way at a certain tune. That's not who I am. I'm a very very very proud. Black Man who prides myself for saying what I mean in meaning what I say and positions. I'll take Geico that of my own. Speak for everybody. I try to be fair open-minded and also try to make sure that black folks understand that my obligation owners that rest on my shoulders is to give a voice to the voiceless meaning. That whatever we're the feeling as a community I make sure to convey to the public is accurately as I possibly can but that does not mean that I'm obligated. I'm obligated applegate to share those feelings. How I personally feel about something is one thing to say? I have an obligation to make sure that I voiced concerns concerns of Acopia my community. It's another thing to say that my feelings and my emotions supposed to mirror that of my community. I don't vob with that. I feel how I feel and I'm going to say what I say. That's the way I've been all my life and I will not not change and as I've said on several occasions much to disagree even people that I work with people that go behind on my back. Call my bosses. Supposedly Friends of mine. They talk about me but they've had. Yeah my number for over two decades even pick up the phone to call themselves. I know who they are. They know who they are and at some point join time as adults and grown men will deal with it but to me I have done nothing wrong. I simply point out about colic happening happening. You cannot get a job doing what you did. This is not about the protest. This is not about taking the knee. This is not about. The reasons uses behind why you took a knee. This is about the fact that as a result of all of those things you never got a call three years you and your team and clamored to get a call. You wanted any team to call you. It was an ideal guess. What but guess what? Twenty five teams essentially call because you had a workout organized by the NFL scheduled for four five days. Afterwards with twenty. Five teams is GONNA show up on a Saturday and as Hugh Jackson stated off. I take this morning. It was not beyond the pill when it comes to work out and people potentially getting a job in the NFL l.. Sometimes you called and you only have twenty four hours. He had five days and Hugh Jackson also pointed it out. He was on the phone with Collins. Represented the Cabinet's representatives as recently as a day before the workout. It was given no indication that Colin Cabinet would not show yet at the same time. He was giving no indication that Kala capital would that show that he was given essentially an indication that collar cabinet would beat their Colin captain capital evidently or meaning. His team evidently will organizing his workout fifty miles away on an hour and twenty minutes away. How do we know this because as a high school facility yet got to call to get permission to use that facility? How do we notice because there were people outside wearing on with cap? Jerseys how did they know the media. How do we know this because there were other people t-shirt saying I know my rights? How did they know you're going to be there and then you can take care and to an NFL owner regardless of what definition everybody wants to attach the coup to get the slave character in roots played exceptionally well by Lavar Burton? The reality is that it looked as if you were telling the owners change me. Treat me like a slave and you. I'm not GonNa let you be He. That slave owner in there is that's how it looked and then he told Roger Goodell start running and you told. NFL owners renovate the truth and you did exactly what the NFL teams feared. You would do. Which is why they use the NFL? Shield this cover as opposed calling you for an individual workout themselves. So you didn't get any calls for three years before Saturday. You haven't got got any phone calls since Saturday in my opinion. I don't think you'll get your phone calls. There's a lot of people have to say. I just need everybody to understand that for me. My overall point is not disputing anything about Colin capital in terms of taking a knee. Why he took a knee perfectly felt it was in his right? He had every right to do it. I stand by Colin Cabinet for his right to do it violated no laws not violate any by laws. But once you do those things and then you file a grievance against the leak and you win a settlement or you reach a settlement that gone as you funds from that agreement rarely if ever does a person go back to the same employer. They swore aggrieved them looking for a job back in that. Replace Collin Cabinet did that the NFL still granted the opportunity for the workout and then he handed it the way that he handled it. I don't believe you do that when you are looking for a job. I think that's delusional. And I think as as a result Colin capital career in the NFL is over. Hugh Jackson does not believe that I do. That is where we are and that is where I will stay until I see evidence to the contrary as we watch the suburban garden gnome Catholic Catholic without disturbing it notice that it moves like not at all. It's inanimate and utterly without brain function but despite that when it got to know me about how Gyco not only saves people money but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty seven online and over the phone. It's clear to them. You should switch because yes. Switching to GEICO is a no brainer on second thought. Maybe don't work. Garden gnomes to carefully people might talk. You'll seem to the Stephen a Smith Show podcast by Stephen. A Smith Show. You expect that you expect that if you missed any of my opening statement go check it out on demand podcast brought to you by capital capital. Want his reimagining banking orphaned accounts with no fees minimums that can be opened in five minutes. Capital one hey. Hey Hey what's your wallet capital one. NA member FDIC also tuna for College Football Action Tomorrow. As Ohio state host Penn State presented by Dr Pepper Coverage Begins at eleven thirty am am eastern on ESPN radio and the ESPN APP. It at eight say ESPN number to call it. Let's go to John. You live. Stephen talked to John. How are you good afternoon? Hello a long time listener. first-time caller Really Big Fan Just wanted to say that I pretty much am in agree with you. You in most of the points on carpet next but one okay Yeah so like you mentioned that he was being blackballed and stuff like that. That's the only thing I disagree with you. When the forty niners charter restructure his deal he was given an opportunity to extend when the seahawks offered him a visit He declined their contract their style. Right there the fact that the matter is that He he definitely opted that out of his contract because he thought he'd have an opportunity to get a better deal That last year with chip Kelly obviously was a disaster. That's number one and that was is really before. The kneeling took place leader. Not Number Two and more importantly Colin Kaepernick's people are insistent that he was never offered a job. Now one time The opportunity to simply showcases skills and the decision be made based on the premise of that Pete Carroll did say he's not a backup and here he would have to be a backup because a Russell Wilson Miami the Fidel Castro t show. We know all about the Baltimore. Ravens if you remember his lady compared Array Lewis and and Steve Shoddy to the characters and Django Samuel Jackson. Leonardo di Caprio So there were things that got in his way no doubt about that but when you talk about him being blackballed you could make an argument. That excuse me Stephen There were opportunities that were available to him that he didn't capitalize off of since the kneeling. And I think that would be a more accurate depiction of things but in the end because of his stance is why he's really. He hasn't been back in the League in the last two years. And that's basically what we're saying sir. Yeah I just feel like You hit the point that I view with you. The most is in terms of conducting yourself in a certain matter and comes with behavior and actions and offending owners. Who you're trying to seek a job from? I don't think I think he's been badly advised. And Yeah my support your thousand percent. I appreciate that man. Thank you so much. Let's go to Jake July Stephen Eight. What's up what's up my brother? What's up man? Hey Man let's put this Colin Kaepernick stuff too bad man. Because I agree with you totally. He went there you know. The teams went there to sign him. You know you said he would have a roster spot in two weeks yes and and as a Washington redskin fans who were at were man. I was hoping that he would sign with us. You know and come in not this year but compete for the job with Wayne Hack next year you know and you know come to the meetings come through the workout. You know do everything. But that wasn't his intentions. Okay here's the bottom line dude like you said it before I don't I don't I don't want you to repeat yourself. What was his record? The last two years of San Fran One and ten And I believe it was two in sixty year before eight a total scrub. What was his name? What Blaine Gabbert? There you go to a complete number one pick an applete bust at todd. mcshay your boy you know. All your people said was the number when we went to the guy was a complete bust. That's who beat them out. Now here's here's my point to you about being blackballed okay. If he took a knee all a year long and then they went to the super bowl one not even the super bowl. Let's just say the championship game and lost what he had been not on the roster next year. Don't don't we don't know we don't know because of of how owners react to see the thing about it is this. We're looking at a guy like Eric Reed. Who took a knee in still in the league? Gala Kenny stills who is still in the League right and what we're missing is that when Colin cabinet took a knee and then they it was politicized little sized by the president of the United States saying I fire all those. SOB's and as a result even Jerry Jones locked on with his players and took a knee after being defying about how nobody will be taking a knee on his squad. Understand that people were looking at Colin Kaepernick as the ringleader and the perception is that because he jump started all of this and he did all of this and he alternately filed a grievance against the League that he's the one that was going to pay a price and directly emanated from his willingness to take a knee and what I'm saying is is is that while that appears to be true and I don't think any of us were tried to deny that it's also true that there have been opportunities to make amends and he has shown no willingness to do it. Now my position just so you know James this is here's where it gets tricky for me. Colin capital violated no laws the NFL did not mandate that you Stanford the national anthem. They their language was we strongly encourage. NBA Major League Baseball mandated it MLB NFL. How did not mandate it so you didn't violate any laws? You didn't violate you. Certainly there violate any by laws by the National Football League so so in that regard I support Colin Kaepernick where I ultimately jump off. The rails is your a protest was against racial oppression and police brutality it was never against the NFL so if if the NFL is of the mindset that your actions are causing them problems and they're of the mindset. Why do you have to bring this to our football field field on a Sunday afternoon when we're not the ones you're complaining about then to me? How does it all all of a sudden transition to? Oh my God it's me against the NFL. But we want to lump racial oppression and police brutality into the equation. Sir Glad Okay do you. Do you think he's like anything like Jim Brown or Bill Russell back in John Carlos do you think he's anything like that. I think people think he is. I wouldn't say that. I think he's an idiot. I'M NOT GONNA I'M NOT GONNA. I'M NOT GONNA call him names. I'm not going to call him that. Sir I'm going to deal with the facts and I'm going to ask you to do to say because what I'm not going to do is let you be on the airwaves insulting him as a person that stick to the facts ax and say whether he's right or wrong. You don't have to go to route of name calling. Why would you feel compelled to do that? I wanted him on my Washington redskins you. Aw they are dies followed him time. Oh wait a minute you could say that all you want to. I actually could call you an idiot if that's the case and I'm I'm not doing that and I won't do that but I call you an idiot for thinking. Anybody should want to play for you to Redskins. That's a great point Dan. I wanted him. I want that workout and I wanted him to play for our team. Got The he has a great a great base in Washington. DC There's there's a Lotta people. I gotta go I gotta go but say this to you. James is a damn shame that you want our Catholic who hasn't played football in three years and he's thirty two years of age when you got. The Wayne Ain't Haskins there who hasn't even received any coaching yet. But evidently you don't feel a lot for Dwayne Haskins and I get it appreciate the call man it at eight say. ESPN back home or your calls in a minute. It's Stephen Espn radio ESPN news. By the way when it comes to hiring you don't have time to waste. You need to get your shortlist qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot Com post a job administering the questions based on your job requirements then zero no qualify candidates using an intuitive online dashboard. Your time is precious so let indeed help you get get to your shortlist of qualified candidates and discover why more than three million businesses use indeed for hiring post a job today at indeed dot com slash. That's indeed dot com slash.

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"The Stephen Smith Show podcast is the present about capital one card when you earn unlimited double malls on every purchase your next trip is closer than you think. Hey what's in your wallet. This is the Stephen a Smith Show podcast the point in our relationship. You're getting to know me at this point in our relationship. You know that I like value that I'm a buy low sell high guy. At this point in the News Cycle Michael Chris Paul just might be a value by my top five destinations who can and who should trade for Chris Paul Stephen Smith Show on E._S._p._N.. Radio the E._S._p._N.. APP Sirius Sirius X._M.. Channel Eighty and on E._S._P._N.. News will cain filling in for Stephen. You can normally catch me three to six eastern on all those same radio and television channels. You can join the conversation. Tell me where you think. Chris Paul ought to end up who should trade for Chris Paul Eight eight eight say E._S._p._N.. That's eight seven to nine three seven seven six coming up a little bit later in the show you get a grace period in the N._F._l.. You're hot coaching commodity. Your big Tom quarterback prospect. You get a grace as period. We understand that you're building something. We understand your better. Days are ahead of you but that grace period isn't the same for everybody. Some people get three years. Some people get one year and that grace period expires several N._F._l.. Teams are arriving at the end of their grace period and we're gonNA need to see some winning not in the distant future but this season I'll lay out for you who has reached the end of their grace period coming up a bit here on the Stephen a Smith show but it's for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless according to E._S._p._N.. N._B._A. Insider Adrian Jonoski the market for Chris Paul is dead the Oklahoma City Thunder and Legendary Point Guard Chris Paul have arrived at an impasse Miami Heat reportedly want their draft picks back. They have several that now reside in Oklahoma City as part of taking on Chris Paul and dumping some salaries back the other way the he reportedly wants several first round picks back as the tax for taking on Chris Paul's exorbitant contract over the next three years and that has is pushed the trade market to a standstill. Nobody else is apparently ready to step up and make a deal for Chris Paul. The market might not come to fruition until December when free agents are capable of being traded and that's led to debate what is Chris Paul is he elite is he evalu- by is Chris Paul One helluva garage sale value by low candidate right now or see beyond his expiration date today on I take the guy's got into that debate Dominic Foxworth Foxworth of the undefeated he said don't get confused here. Chris Paul is still elite. He is as good as you can or close as good as you can. Get at that point guard position so we're looking at his stats Chris. Paul is a outstanding point guard on the four or games that he played without James Hardie average over twenty points in over eleven. He's still very knows he went into a ritual. You can't win every game. I don't know honestly win a regular season anyway the point the point is we. We all agreed when he went down there would harm better with a perfect fit. They're both ball dominant player. I think that the value of Paul has gone down significantly because he was in a situation where he was he was not. I think Dominique is onto something. Chris Paul is a candidate for somebody who has rebound potential that his ability exceeds what our current perception of Chris Paul is and it's something greater than what we saw next to James Harden I in Chris Paul is a couple seasons removed from shooting forty percent from three. He's a couple seasons removed from averaging eighteen nineteen points a game and ten assists a year but I also recognized that he is approaching his age thirty four season and it usually doesn't go up for small players. He's small injuries mount. He's played fifty sixty games of the last couple of years and for small point guards guys his size. It doesn't get better. It only gets worse what more he has a prickly quickly personality. That's something you have to factor in. We start thinking about who can who would buy in on Chris Paul. Does he fit into your locker room but I don't agree with Dominique that he's still elite. Max Kellerman took his turn Intel Dominic Cork's wrong shooting forty two percent barely from the field. That's not elite you shooting from three under league average but you take six plus threes a game. That's not only by the way if a bad reputation in kinloch rules right like only fits into certain Locker Room no-one questions his work ethic or is willing desire to win. We understand that but doesn't rub everyone the right way and all those locker rooms is that elite none of those those things really here's the final test about the roster they got in o'casey anyone expecting a lot easier if Chris Paul relief if you took an elite point guard and put them with Gallinari and shake Gillis Alexander and Steven Adams you like all all look at that that's a little squad and you don't think of them as a squad he's not he's a good player far from elite. I agree with Max Kellerman. He's a good player. He's far from elite but that doesn't mean he's not a value by for some team in hanging in just a few moments. I'm going to tell oh you the five teams who could and perhaps should trade for Chris Paul but first. Let's talk for men about this concept of elite again. We throw around the term. I think we give it out like Halloween Candy. I think we treat everybody because we WANNA be positive. We want to be nice and want to be friendly as though their elite I think being generous generous ten percent of any given occupation is elite and again. I think that's generous. We can make an argument just five percent of whatever bricklayers accountants talk radio hosts basketball players. Whatever it is elite is reserved for a very small percentage? I made this argument of the day here on the Stephen. A Smith Show will cain filling in for Stephen. I told you Melvin Gordon wasn't an elite running back and I was right. Is he a top three running back in the N._F._l.. No He's not a top three running back and that keeps him from being elite. is He a good running back. Perhaps even a great running back. Is he a top ten running back. Maybe even a top six or seven running back. Yes check check check. He's all of those things but don't let that four she win to that positive overly optimistic mindset that he's elite in fact. It's rude. It's it's rude to those that are to expand the category to water down and act like everybody's the same Melvin Gordon is not in Ezekiel Elliot Todd Gurley Alvin Kamara Christian McCaffrey class and Chris Paul is not in Steph Curry Damian Lillard and maybe even Jamal Murray's class. If I were laying it out right now I would say Chris. Paul comes in around eight best point guard in the league. If you're just back the enveloping it talking about who your best point guards urging the league guard Steph curry one Damian Lillard to Kemba Walker Three Kyrie Irving four Russ Westbrook five and then we get into a debate. Would you rather have Chris Paul or Mike Conley the stage you can probably count on Conley more than Chris Paul at least in terms of health. Would you rather have Chris Paul or Jamal Murray. I think I'm going to take Jamal Murray and I'm talking about in the short term the next year to the talking about keeping Japanese guys around for five six years because that's how you have to do it if you're trading for Chris Paul. What can you do for you in the short term? Would you have Chris Paul or de Aron Fox now. We're getting to Chris Paul territory. I'd rather have Chris Paul in the short term de Aron Fox over the long term Chris Paul de Ngelo Russell Gimme Chris Paul Chris Paul or Ben Simmons tough call but that's where we end up. We just ended up around eighth in the League. When it comes to point guards I think that's where Chris Paul resides but just because he's not elite does not mean he can't help somebody out there and I do believe we're arriving at the value proposition for Chris Paul? What is this this man if the trademark it is dead like E._S._p._N.? N._B._A. Insider Adrian Warshafsky has told us then you're having give up very little in fact as I said the Miami wants something back. They won't picks back to take on Chris Paul so the trade market is such that that you're going to have to give up very little to bring in the eighth best point guard in the league very little. How many times have you seen a top player in the league move for almost nothing in return? Perhaps even a tax for taking him on so the trade price of Chris. Paul is arriving at the value place by low sell high. I do recognize there's a second part to this and that is the contract Chris. Chris Paul is scheduled to make one hundred twenty million dollars plus over the next three years. He's going to be making high thirties low forty million dollars a year and Oh my God. That's a lot of money that's cap eating cap constipated Ng. Cap Devouring space where you can't go get somebody else and you might have to say goodbye to some guys if you're a team taken on that kind of money over the next three years and that's really what this is about. What can Chris Paul do for you of the next year ear to that? You're going to have to pay for over the next three to four years so I laid it out. I spent some time on the trade machine. Last night had a good time playing around with this because it immediately occurred to me the minute that trademark it goes dead. It makes me think if I am a thrifty team out there. I'm starting to figure out if he fits my plan. If Chris Paul can work in my location and here are my top five potential destinations not according to reports or rumors. I'm not telling these teams are working on deals for Chris Paul. I'm telling you I look at it. Teams that could pull it off who have the contracts to match and there's at least some argument that he could help their squads out of the next few years and there's something they can give Oklahoma City in return. Here are my five teams who can and perhaps should consider making a deal for Chris Paul a number five the Dallas Mavericks Dallas Mavericks and Rick Carlisle have always been interested in having to ball handlers two point guards of course Luca Danni. She's GonNa handle that ball much of the time they just sign trade for Dhillon right from the Memphis Grizzlies does that preclude them from Chris Paul perhaps but they have contracts to make it work Tim Hardaway in Courtney Lee those are two contracts that Dallas ones out of but they'd be taking Moron in return for Chris Paul they'd be tying up cap space but cap space that would alleviate itself at the time. Um You have to pay for Luca Danni. You'RE NOT GONNA kill yourself with your current. League superstar your current franchise superstar and you have kristaps Porzingis tied up so how does Chris Paul Luca Danni pitching kristaps porzingis sound to you over the next two two to three years in return Oklahoma City saves a ton of money. One year left on Courtney lease contract two years left on Tim Hardaway Juniors contract at number four the Minnesota Timberwolves the Minnesota Timberwolves would send Andrew Wiggins and Jeff Teague to Oklahoma City Oklahoma City doesn't save as much money as they do in the Dallas deal but perhaps Oklahoma City could tell themselves there something worth salvaging around Andrew Wiggins. The current reputation for Andrew Wiggins is much less than the contract that companies employing him. Could the thunder tell themselves wiggins is better than cap savings or more cap savings you could get from another team and are the wolves willing to do this reports where they were in on de Ngelo Russell and I get that he's a young building block and Chris Paul is not but they're trying to make the playoffs that got a cash in on Karl. Anthony towns at some some point at number four of the Minnesota Timberwolves at number three the San Antonio Spurs now. Here's the argument for the San Antonio Spurs. There are rumors out there that they want to trade Demar Rosen and this trade proposal in this trade machine works it'd be Marge Rosen and patty mills or Markle Nellie either one four Chris Paul now look if San Antonio is looking to move to rose and I'm not saying Paul is the kind of player necessarily that you'd move him for but I do know one thing thing about Paul. He knows how to play basketball. He knows how to play it. The right way has got to be something Gregg Popovich values I can imagine those two personalities being combustible together and you already have two point guards and Murray and white right in San Antonio but this league is weird if derozen if rumors are true that derozen is potentially gettable is Chris Paul Guy that makes sense in San Antonio and number two the Orlando Magic now my producer Sir Stevens Rudy who works with me on the will cain show and his working today on the Stephen a Smith show hates this proposal because he's an Orlando Magic Fan and he doesn't see how it makes sense but here's how it work the Magic Sin Evan -Fornia Marquel Foltz D._J.. D._J. Augustine to the Oklahoma City Thunder for Chris Paul the Magic Needle Point Guard. That's what they have needed to go along with their glut of big Jonathan Isaac Aaron Gordon Mogambo. He's not the same age he's not in the same window. They are but Chris Paul does make what is a seven eight seed in the east potentially a four five seat in the East in an east. It's wide open. Is that not advancement. I'm not telling you that the magic all of a sudden become contenders or even if eastern conference finals contenders but they better than where they are today and they have been mired in worse than mediocrity for a long time why settle for mediocrity bump it up a notch. That's Orlando Window and number one. The destination that makes no sense is the one that everybody has been banting about and that is the Miami Heat. It's Gordon Drug Itch and Kelly Linic Oklahoma City saves money but Miami recognizing the price that all of these teams of laid out how would have to take on that big contract for Chris Paul at age thirty six and thirty seven once draft picks back those are my five teams who can and perhaps should consider buying low on Chris Paul in trade value but but perhaps paying heavily in Cap Space Stephen a Smith Xuanwu with will cain filling in straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless everything for less only at Walmart. You can give me call eight eight eight say E._S._P._N.. Edit eight seven to nine three seven in seven six. Who Do you think should buy in on Chris Paul? Normally I would have a whiteboard will cain show studios are covered in whiteboards and I would've map this out for you to make this visual fulfilling on the Nice mission. You'RE GONNA have to trust. It's my voice and my explanation on those five teams as they make sense for Chris Paul the Stephen a Smith show is brought to you by the new shelby power nitro plus premium gasoline now with four levels of defense against gunk where corrosion and frigidness fortune all right so let's move without any quickness or friction and let's talk about which teams in the N._F._l.. Are Arriving at the end of their grace period. Bill parcells used to say that three years and we know who you are three years and we figure out if you're Jag just a guy three years and we know exactly what you're going to be in the N._F._l.. And I think that's a decent timeframe for laying out what the grace period is for various teams across the N._F._l.. And I think several teams are arriving at the end of their grace period that means we're going to need to see something this year from these following teams think the San Francisco Forty niners have arrived at the end of their grace period. There's been so much expectation so much hype around what Kyle Shanahan and Jimmy Garoppolo can bring to the San Francisco Forty niners four years now and we're going to need to see that turn into something Jimmy Garoppolo Oh has dealt with injury after injury and although Kyle Shanahan is on a six year deal and approaching his third year expectations are such that we're gonNA need to see it. Come to fruition I only there's going to be a bunch of patients for yet another building year in San Francisco. What's the price it's going to be? I don't know I'm not telling you get fired but I do know there's a out and Jimmy Garoppolo's contract. They walk away without too much money here pretty soon so what's going to take nine and seven I think the San Francisco Forty niners are going to have start to compete in that N._F._C. West with the seahawks and the rams the grace period is coming to an end. I got another team and this one had a very very short grace window. That's the Cleveland browns. Here's the deal hype an expectation dictate the grace period. We're going to grant and the browns although stuck forever in the bottom cellar-dwelling positions of the N._F._l.. All of a sudden out of nowhere are covered up an expectations. There's people picking them to win the A._F._C.. North is picking them for deep playoff runs. There's people picking them the A._F._C. Championship game so this thing thuds this year. There's not going to be a lot of well. There in the building stage will don't worry about it. Give them a year to let this thing. It's not GONNA go down that way. You and I both know that they traded for Odell Beckham Junior. Baker Mayfield's not really go along to get along kind of guy. He's a go along to win kind of guy. This whole thing has a combustible feel to it and I like what the browns are doing it. I love Baker Mayfield's potential but now let's let's not act like they're the beginning of a three year grace window or even one year into a three year grace window. No no this thing needs to happen this year an absolute worst next year the browns do not have a lot of time to sell us that they are building something that's been done. We been there with the browns. It's time to start winning and everybody feels it in finally one more team that I think has arrived at the end of its grace window or better yet not a team an entire division the A._F._C. South as arrived at the end of their grace window. The Indianapolis Colts like the argument. I just made out for the Cleveland. Browns are expected to win this year. Heard no more patients. No more waiting time is now the Annapolis Colts Houston Texans same argument Bill O'Brien has got to convert this into actual playoff success to Shawn Watson good enough. This team has been outside of this horrendous offensive of line replete with weapons and some level of defense. This thing has that now we're never feel to it. Even though to Shawn Watson is young perhaps Bill O'Brien's clock is ticking. Grace Window is closing for the Texans same thing can be said for the titans. Although this won't fall a Mike variable this will follow Marcus Mariota Marcus Mariota time is come. His contract is up this year. If it doesn't happen it's new quarterback time in Tennessee and the Jaguars Jaguars who knows where they are are they on the tail end of a window or they on new opening window. Nick foles walks in a couple of years ago. They were A._F._C. Championship team. What are the Jags all knows? If you're a fan you're not senior telling yourselves. Give us three years. It's like what are are. We look do this. The entire division has come to the end of its grace window. Those are the teams that I believe have to perform this year in the N._F._l.. Will Cain filling in for Stephen. Let's it up to Shell Pennzoil Performance Line Maurice North Carolina. What's up Maurice? You're on the Stephen. A Smith Show will cain. Hey well Ma'am and they take a quick question. I think Chris Ball should go to the seventy sixers <hes> crusty facing he kinda stolen right now. That's why he's not going to be <hes> created at this time. He's just trying to McConnell waters down. I was doing some research. I think the seventy sixers have gave that pick thankful <hes> Tobias Harris which is protected to the clippers and so that basically is worth it because you know the Clinton's GonNa be blowing out next in a couple of years so that's like a second or third round pick and then they just give it to that and go with that that's right you. Here's the thing Maurice about the sixers and I appreciate the call. They don't have the ability to make the deal now they have to be a December team in order to make the contracts add up and I don't have the trade machine in front of me. They have to match salaries and they don't have the salaries that they can make the deal right now. Tobias Harris tradable come December because they just signed him but I'd have to ask you what what are the sixers going to give up for for Chris Paul. I'll put the trade machine but I looked at every team in the N._B._A.. Last night and it's hard to make the sixers work not unlike this team Rick and Miami what's up. You're on the Stephen Smith show with will cain. They will call. I'm not sure what <hes> Milwaukee can offer <hes> okay see but if you care about Janas they get him somebody who can look and throw them that ball can pass them that ball. I'm recalling how ecstatic <hes> Janas wells when steph curry they're not bounce out of the open all star game. I think when he says he's sixty percent he needs a Ford. You know and I think of Milwaukee Care About him. They'll you'll find a way to get the. Here's what's Chris Paul. Here's my concern Rick about the bucks. Okay the bucks of now got into a place in by the way they're not eligible so right now either they could maybe do it in December because it would probably have to sit around Eric Bledsoe. He's not eligible. He just resigned with them until December to be traded and so when you get teams like the sixers in the bucks all of their salaries essentially loaded now into three guys with the box it's Janas it's Middleton and it's bledsoe with the sixers at Simmons. It's embiid and it's Harris in order to match salaries. I don't know that you can do it without including one of those guys now. Maybe A BLEDSOE for Paul deal works in December but one other concern. You'd you have to have if you're the box is. Are you putting yourself on the eight ball with Janas on Cisco two three years down the road. He's a free agent twenty twenty one. Does this make jaanus WANNA stay. 'cause that's all you need to be calculating Milwaukee. What what is your friendly? What makes Jaanus WANNA stay? You can give me a call word is Chris. Paul Makes Sense. I do believe there's at least some value proposition here because you don't have to give up anything and trade you just gotTa get some salary matches so which franchise inches Chris Paul makes sense. I gave my five teams who could and perhaps should do the deal today not in December today you tell me what you think eight eight eight seven to nine three seven seven six. I'll take your calls on that and I'm going to tell you I have laid out second contracts for running backs in the N._F._l.. Are Terrifying the statistics the tables actuary tables are absolutely terrifying forgiving running backs a second contract but there are exceptions and I'll tell you who those exceptions were and you can ask yourself or Melvin Gordon and Ezekiel Elliott exceptions like the ones. 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Radio will cain filling in for Stephen. You can normally catch me three to six eastern on E._S._p._N.. Radio Siriusxm Channel Eighty and on E._S._P._N.. News you need seats to a game download vivid seats apple and a Promo Code Champs at checkout to get ten percent off your first order. Don't buy just any seat get a vivid seat. Should you give running back to second contract and went back through it with the help us some of my friends on the Internet and found that the running backs wchs who second contracts have been a success. I can tell you despite the fact the league says don't pay running backs and despite the fact that the statistical actuarial tables without a doubt say say goodbye age twenty five. There's some exceptions to the rule. It's only question we have to ask ourselves. As Melvin Gordon exception to the rule is Ezekiel Elliott an exception to the rule but first I laid out free my five destinations who can pull off trade machine deal for Chris Paul and perhaps should consider it if he is at a value by proposition if he's cheap in terms of what you have to sit in back expensive in terms of the salary you have to take on what teams might make sense laid it out these trades all work at number five the Dallas Mavericks number four the Minnesota Timber Wolves at number three the San Antonio Spurs at number two the Orlando Magic and number one the Miami Heat. Let's see the Shell Pennzoil performance line Julian from so cow. What's up Jilin you on the Stephen a Smith show with will cain? Hey what's up super cool but yeah I think they'll alerts. Orlando Magic makes a lot of stance on a good fit. They don't have a solid point in garland right and it's it's a bad contract. The Orlando Magic have been the Orlando Magic so look really what what are you gonNA lose. You know I make a little while I totally agree. It's why I had them at number two. It's kind of fun you know my producer is a massive magic fan figure. You're that lives in Connecticut something to do with Penny Hardaway and shack but however you end up Magic Fan God bless you but he's a massive magic fan and it's funny how one season of playoffs of all of a sudden made them cocky snooty in fact. What are we want with Chris Ball how that contract you know what you want with Chris Paul the Point Guard you've always needed the leader to go with that team-ful young guys with Isaac M- Obama Aaron Gordon and perhaps the opportunity go up to three or four seat in the east that sounds it was pretty attractive to me but I don't know maybe magic fans are all to snooty for that now who wants three seat only Dass keep bringing our young guys James in Detroit? What's up James? Will I wonder about Chris Paul von in Detroit Pistons back with Blake Griffin Audrey job it. Here's what I heard James. You know what I heard. Okay you feel remember just a week or so ago said the Detroit Pistons made sense for Russell Westbrook because Detroit Pistons are in that when now place right with guys are veterans their core components like Blake Griffin Andre Drummond as you say so Russell Westbrook made sense and just my extension to say well then dozen Chris Paul's well they did sign derrick rose but let's okay. Let's bring in a veteran leader. I'm going to be honest with you. I ran by some guys and he's always here at E._S._p._N.. The played in the League and they said absolutely not Blake. Griffin wants nothing to do with Chris Paul that is not a marriage that needs to be reconciled. That's what I was told Man. That's one of the reasons I don't include the Detroit Pistons. Thanks for the call man one more Walker in Virginia what's up. You're on the Stephen Smith show with will cain. What do you think about Chris Paul going back to the clippers you know you have a Bright Star with Paul George and Leonard but if you have somebody with elite handling and I know he's not elite player but he has elite passing and what do you think about someone like him pairing up Paul George Anglo Leonard? I don't think much of a man I'll be honest with you walker and I don't even know I'm not on the trade machine right now what they could do what they could trade the gotTa match salary. That's the thing you gotta match. I don't have the clippers roster right up in front of me on who's making much outside of Kawhi. I Leonard and Paul George. GotTa send something back one more because he says he's GonNa call me out on my Chris Baltic. I always love people ready to call me out monroe in Ohio. You're on the Stephen. Smith show is will cain. We'll trying trying to tell you right now. Is I love you guys. I need you to know that I think it's fair. What you're doing Chris Paul gives it skills after excuse for why he forces his way out of organizations on to good teams and don't win? You all just ran Carmelo. I Mellow Anthony Out. The League is caught himself as the the other the next never put any talent around and guess what at the end of the day as much talent as Chris Paul at around them why is never win when he had the Andre and Blake and and <hes> Jamal Crawford he hamstring way out. He took the money in Houston. Hey I'm stream it the rockets now. He's hamstring OK P thunder at the end of the day. I don't think it's fair. Did you guys give him and Kinda rearview excuses to not win with more talent and yet you vilify Carmelo. It's not right all right Monroe. This is what I would respond first of all that I run Carmelo out. I didn't know I did that. I didn't even know I had that powered run Carmelo Ali. I think the League Ran Carmelo League. I think the three point shot I think ball movement I think off ball movement all ran Carmelo out of the league all of a sudden an inefficient long to didn't quite make the same sense. It did back in the day all of a sudden Eyeso- play pound the ball for twenty seconds didn't take along to didn't make the same kind of since I believe that's what ran Carmelo oddly not me but you want to do the same thing to Chris Paul like if you think it's some sense of injustice what happened to Carmelo why you won't happen to Chris Paul off. I think Monroe you're right. The Chris Paul has to take some accountability for the lack of winning in the situations that he's been in the lack of ability to get it all done but that's not really what I'm talking about. Man What I'm talking about is is Zia value proposition. Would he make your team better. He's no longer the best player in your team and I'm not even talking about and really being the second best player on your team when I'm talking about one of these teams trading for Chris Paul it's 'cause you don't have to give anything up. You just have to take on that contract. So what about Chris Paul is your third best player. What about Chris Paul with some young guys around him? What about Chris Paul taken a marginal playoff team or located low seated playoff team up into that three four five six range in the playoffs? Do I think Chris Paul has vowed to do that. Yeah Yeah I do. Let's move forward. Let's talk about football. Let's talk about rather not you should give running backs a second contract. I told you here are the other day on the Stephen a Smith show with will cain that if you just put it on a graph you just put every running backs performance they tail off on average over time right about the time there do either second contract injuries yards per carry everything mounts up everything takes its toll and write about the time they turned twenty four twenty five and write about the time they're scheduled to get paid is when it all comes crashing crashing down and that's what's working against guys like Ezekiel Elliott and Melvin Gordon as for Melvin Gordon. He says by the way he's got to do this. He's got to get paid. His teammates have his back you should support for lady unveil as he sat of the season in fact like you said You'd do the same thing if you're in his situation at the time. Are you prepared to sit out the season compared to what I do here so I said I hope it. Don't don't come to that as you know we we. We could make this run <HES> <HES> I want to do it for you know my teammates Phil couple O- heads at senior and really for the organization to be one of the first guys on the team bring organizational super bowl but we need to make well while you shouldn't pay running backs on average well. That's good proposition a good business rule to live by. I've got four names of guys who went into their second contract and some who went into their third contract and were the right call to pay the only questions after I read you these names after I share with you these names of the last ten years of running backs to got paid and lived up to their contract. The only real question is as Melvin Gordon fit in this line in this vein is he one of these kinds of running backs Ezekiel Elliott one of these kinds of running backs. If these guys are exceptions to the rule our Melvin Gordon Ezekiel Elliott also exceptions to the rule. I'll share with you those names when we come back here on the Stephen Smith Show with will cain on E._S._p._N.. Radio you just what you're in the middle of a Stephen Smith Show podcast David so the stats say don't pay running back. Don't give them a second contract on average they tail off around twenty four twenty five years old on average tail l. off right when you pay him. It's the Stephen Smith Show on E._S._P._N.. Radio presented by progressive insurance making it easy to bundle your home and car insurance will cain filling in for Stephen. You can normally catch me three to six eastern on E._S._p._N.. Radio E._S._P._N.. APP Siriusxm Channel Eighty and E._S._P._N.. News but while the averages the actuarial tables the statistics say as general don't pay running backs men. Don't give a second contract. It's bad business. There are exceptions and here the most famous ones much of the exceptions came in the year. Two thousand eleven marshawn Lynch had been traded from the buffalo bills to the Seattle seahawks and the Seattle seahawks paid marshawn Lynch what amounted to twelve million billion dollars a year in today's dollars of course lynch went on was a centerpiece for the Seattle seahawks and the winning ways. They didn't put behind them. He was important. He was good he was worth it. Let's stick with two thousand eleven. How about Frank Gore you WanNa do Frank Gore how about Frank Gordon two thousand seven which again would have been twelve million dollars in today's money two thousand eleven and how many contracts is frank signed since then Frank Gore is your ultimate worth worth it guy my God he keeps killing everybody's expectations? What about this in two thousand eleven but Adrian Peterson went on to average fourteen hundred yards a year including that famous north of two thousand yards? He's any of course got hurt but he came back another deal in two thousand fifteen and here he is with Washington redskins. Adrian Peterson is still performing Adrian Peterson when he signed that money by the way when he did his deal you convert this money into today's dollars as far as percentage of salary cap and whatnot. Do you realize Adrian Peterson's deal would have been at twenty two million dollars a year in today's money and this isn't a league where tug girlies is paid running back and fifteen million dollars a year later on Embel- makes fourteen Melvin Gordon wants up into that category and it'll Shawn McCoy in two thousand twelve was Sean McCoy signed a new deal with the eagles he was traded to the bills but he is played forty four forty eight games aims. He's had sixteen hundred yards seven touchdowns on average. It's about fourteen million dollars. Today's Money Sean McCoy has been worth. There's your exceptions. The only questions is if the general business proposition position is don't pay running backs. Don't pay them in their second contract but I gave you the Shawn McCoy Adrian Peterson Marshawn Lynch and Frank Gore as exceptions to the rule we ask ourselves is Melvin Gordon. An exception like these guys is Ezekiel Elliott an exception like these guys my answer to you is no Melvin. Gordon is not from both production and health number of years. He's played a full season and he's only had one one one thousand yard season. Meanwhile Zeke is an absolute exception healthy and productive Romulus in flint. What's up Romulus you on the Stephen a Smith show with will cain yeah? He's not know Ezekiel Elliott. He's Uh Todd Gurley but he is a running back and he is a workhorse on the team so I say Gilman's money if he doesn't produce then get rhythm. It's a lot of money. That's the whole question. Thanks for the call rimless how much money we're talking about because it was thirteen fourteen million dollars. No thank you Robin Alabama. What's up rob? You're on the Stephen Smith show with will cain make a quick rob. He made it real quick because he's already out and he was GonNa tell me that I'm wrong Taylor secret about me. I like people to tell me that I'm wrong. Helen moved from Texas to New York City to try to get around people that disagree with me. I thought move up there. It'd be fun roundtable debates be.

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Hour 1: A Depressing Day

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Hour 1: A Depressing Day

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They spent show on ESPN radio's presented by progressive home insurance. Get your quarter. Progressive dot com today. Tom straight talk. Brought to you by straight talk wireless. Best phones, best networks, no contracts. The usually for the usually the usual fervor, the enthusiasm, the passion that I have that I bring today airwaves every time I'm on it as quite as far as I'm concerned. I'm a big compromise today. I'm a bit sad. Actually, I'm lying. I'm quite devastated. Because as much as I've been hearing. About how the New York Knicks could potentially end up empty handed. That reality has now resonated, more profoundly than it has in weeks. I'm pretty much hearing. It's done. Kevin Durant, and Kyrie Irving going to Brooklyn. My hope all of this time has been Cairo Kemper joining K, D M Madison Square Garden. And I'm hearing that. Stephen a. I know folks told you come to New York Knicks. Hell. They thought they will come into the New York Knicks. I know those same people said of the United five percent chance believe that five percent open because his K D, you never know. There's the dole in factor. There's the Brooklyn nets could foundation there. That's a factor. All of these things are true. And then as the weeks. Dissipated into days. And now days on verge of becoming a matter of hours with kyri urban have an opt out. Of his deal with the Boston Celtics, MBNA, arm restricted free agent, K, D opting out. It's thirty one point five million. He was all by Golden State. Opting out of that deal for next season. So he could be. A guy that. It was an unrestricted free agent. And both of them would be free to come to the New York Knicks. Now, we're hearing different news. News that we haven't that, that we've been hearing for weeks, by the way. But you just hold out hope that somehow some way, that it wouldn't be a strong level of truth to it that somehow some way, we would move beyond this, and then hearing that it's just not going to be the case. You still holding out hope if you're a Knicks fan, you still holding out, hope to somehow some way, the mind could be changed. K D has been a New York over the last few days, we have billeting in New York bat put on a walk in boot, and a little while give back to walk before, ultimately can someday in the near future give back to practicing and getting himself back in reminding us all wise, arguably the greatest player on the planet. But it appears as if whenever Katy comes back. It appears as if whenever K D starts playing basketball again. It'll be in a Brooklyn nets uniform. Not that of the New York Knicks the deadline is Sunday at six pm eastern time June thirtieth. And one could only hope that somehow someway K, D, kyri will change their minds kyri, re pretty much is done in everybody's eyes. It just hasn't been made official yet, but it's pretty much a done. Deal car is going to be a Brooklyn. Kimball. Walkers, not coming to New York either. My sources. Tell me cabinet. Kimball Walker has informed the Charlotte Hornets and Michael Jordan. He does not want to be there. He was offered a five year deal. It wasn't the supermax deal. He was qualified for it was somewhere in the ballpark of one hundred sixty plus million still about twenty million more than the Boston Celtics could offer him. But Kemba Walker is going to be a Boston. Celtic? That's what I'm hearing is not etched in stone, I guess, again, because you got until Sunday, these guys it always change their mind. But I can tell you that the Charlotte Hornets believe Kemba Walker is going to be a Boston. Celtic? They know that he's gone. He's let them know he's not coming back. He wants to win. He wants to find themselves in a winning situation and with kyri being gone, but Jason Tatum, and Jalen Brown and Gordon Haywood in Boston with Brad Stevens. The coach there's a better chance of winning in Boston. Then there is of staying in Charlotte in a winning. Either way you slice it Kim walking come into the New York Knicks. It appears Kyrie Irving is coming into New York. Knicks it appears that Kevin Durant isn't coming to the New York Knicks. We know that Klay Thompson, who is going to be offered. Five years. One hundred ninety one million dollar max deal at six pm of few seconds in it won't the clock. Won't even reach six zero. One sunday. We're in Klay Thompson, six eastern time three PM Pacific. It won't even reach six oh, one PM eastern time for Klay Thompson, nor for the five-year, max deal, by the Golden State Warriors. They lose ain't going nowhere. A New York next look at her bias, Harris. They look at Jimmy Butler. These are second tier guys looking for long-term deals. They ain't come in either. Go to New York Knicks. When all is said and done. At the end of the day. Once again, delivered us. Worst possible nightmare for free agency. They're going to end up empty-handed. And if indeed that is true because I still got three days three full days to pray to hit. Munnings and the privately-owned. Hope beyond hope that somehow, someway devoted kicks in. At a change will finally take place. That's advantageous for something associated with James Dolan. Still got three days to pry. Please for once. Basketball life. Grant me some good news about the New York Knicks even though James Dolan, is their owner. I'm trying. Still got three days to pray ladies jump. Still got three days to hope. But then look good. The good at all. Here we are. You know. I've got a pretty decent relationship with max Kellerman, and we'll K. Okay. Doesn't outstanding jobless right here on ESPN radio. Next Kelman's my partner in crime. I take. You know, we might but heads argue and bump heads and all that stuff debate show. This would you do. But the good guys, they really really are. But every now and then they could be coral. They can engage in a level of cruelty that I think should be alarming to us all. And they certainly made sure to do that to me today. Because knowing that the really has said it. Kate, did all likelihood is not coming. Mix and other is curry. Max and we'll K. Informed me of the news flash. That DaMarcus boogie cousins could end up being the New York knick on a one year. As if wasn't sick enough. No boogie cousins in New York. The hell is that gonna do for me? Better time patent gas Lauren my bloated belly rather than what to because Knicks uniform. The hell is that gonna do for me? Now, finish the boogie cousins. Couple of things and the interest of full disclosure. He and I don't like each other one bit. He don't like me at all. And feel as mutual. We ain't never spoken life, and we never will all likelihood. But I'm still not going disrespect this me when healthy he could play when healthy he averages twenty eight and twelve when healthy he's worth one hundred fifty million dollars, which is what he's practically been cost since he tore his ACL. Was achilles. I apologize. It's a miracle that he came back from it as soon as he did came back January. Eighteenth, everybody was telling me when we back for April. Boogie cousins can play. And this spike obvious distasteful, one another. Let me be fair. Because help a lot of teams. And if you are a championship contender, you should considerably boogie cousins. And you should pay him. Whatever you think he's worth, because if he were healthy, we talk and big Tom dollars, and the only reason why he might now warrant that right now because we don't know how healthy he's going to be. That's it. I'm not against boogie cousins being a New York knick because he's baffled room coach. That's a false report. I've never heard that about, and that wouldn't be fit him. I'm not going to tell you. I don't wanna be a New York because he can't play because that would be a damn law. I'm not gonna tell you that, you know what he was garbage throughout the NBA finals because that wasn't too. Yes. Some bad games as good games. He could pass. He was good defensively pick roles he was opposed presence. He puts the points on the board. Had about three good games out of the six in the NBA finals. One game for them as far as I was. He was the MVP today. My issue will boogie cousins being a New York knick. Is that what K D with kyri we're talking lottery, which need for? That don't do anything, and especially when you're looking forward to mega superstars come into New York City. I mean give us boogie cousins equivalent of giving us an injured Amari stutter my instead of the Brown. We know what it was supposed to be back in two thousand ten we all what it ended up, not being. I don't wanna hear about boogie cousins, because it brings ranked the wrong kind of memories. Amari instead of LeBron to hear that. I wanna see that experience it into a playoff team that will be different but they're not gonna be. Gonna happen gentleman, not the way of looking not the what I'm hearing. Just tough. Just a. And I know I tried to ward off layoff, you know, just thinking about. James Dolan is the owner. How detrimental he is. To the future this ranchos. Almost gets a point right now where I think that James Dolan lights being a pariah. He actually gets off of people talking about him and wishing he would go on makes them wanna stay more. Steve mills, Scott very I have no questions about their competence. I believe in their competence, I'm questioning one's ability to recruit, would a boss James Dolan. And I guess they can't be completely absolve either David physio came to New York. Got good relationships. Lebron Wade swear by him. Ends up. Not letting us one single free agent. How am I supposed to feel about that? I don't know how much Ables feel about that in all honesty. I really really don't. So I mean for me personally, I mean I just don't know. And I don't know where to go with all of this. I'm looking at the Knicks right now. And I'm depressed we spent so much time. We've talked about the Los Angeles Lakers. Rob lak-? Magic johnson. Jeanie buss. What are you doing there? Dysfunctional, blah, blah. They make one move. And they're my favorites to win the championship one move just like that. Same what we will about the Lakers, who missed the playoffs. All of the last six years. But the Los Angeles Lakers. They wanna title in the seventies. They won in the eighties. They struggled throughout the nineties, but still a quiet, Shaquille O'Neal, and draft. Kobe Bryant in nineteen ninety six. So even though they didn't win the title, they were relevant and they want everybody's radar. And after that, they three Peter with titles. Ninety nine two thousand two thousand two thousand one two thousand one two thousand two. Did their thing. Three painting. And then they went to little laugh because shack left. Kobe brought him back to prominence without chat three straight trips to the finals two titles. Over the last four decades. The Lakers have had titles. They've got sixteen championships on their resume. What are the Knicks to was the last one nineteen seventy three? Hi, was five. Five years old. I'm now more than a half ill. Over the last twenty years, the New York Knicks. Stewardship of James Dolan. Basketball, I said. Very. One could argue that really James Dolan's fall. He did high Thomas. He hired Larry Brown. He hired Phil Jackson. Guess intentions will. Right. Cut checks. Private jets everywhere takes care of his guys. But nothing seems to go right? With dismay when it comes to his basketball franchise, nothing. And then throws a free agency throw. Charles Oakley out of the arena. Ban. Some little kid because he wants you to sell team. End up in the news, and I'll to end up paying a fifty thousand dollar fine. Because you ban a reporter or a newspaper from an express conference, which is clearly against MBA rules. This level of pettiness petulance. While it may not be. The deciding factor clearly plays role. What would you say? What do we think? How do we feel? Say which one about genius bus in Los Angeles, Lakers. Even in the era of jimbo's. Even since daddy died him having missed the playoffs six times. They've always giving you a star. Tinseltown, purple and gold Laker tradition. Hollywood staple center, they've always giving you a star on the basketball court. You know who the Knicks star on accordance on a court? You know the Knicks star is. Spike Lee got courtside seats. And he stains, a lot of times during the games. So the at least you could see him watching the players run by. So you got. I haven't been the sad and longtime over basketball, personal matters. But over basketball haven't been sad and a long, long time. But I'm sad. Now. Hoping beyond hope. That can pray my way into a better situation. But realistically pragmatically doubting that will ever happen. I wish folks out there could cheer me up. But it was smart enough to know. You all. It. Eight say ESPN, it's seven to nine three seven seven six. You're listening lob. Stephen Smith show. ESPN radio. ESPN new. Yes. I said it is true. Kyri K, D probably Brooklyn Kimball Walker. Probably in Boston. We don't know whether koala is going stand around or go to the clippers we don't know whether or not Jimmy bell is gonna end up in Philly or go to Houston. We don't know where to buys. Harris is going to end up as well. And the only thing relevant about the New York Knicks free agency. Is that they may give us. Bogey cousins. You can't make this up. You just give this up. 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Earn four percent cashback on dining into taint two percent at grocery stores in one percent on all the purchases. Hey, what's in your wallet? It eight say ESPN, it's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six. You are listening to the Stephen Smith show. ESPN radio ESPN news. This news about the Knicks and their situation is not the only thing going on. There are other things to take into consideration. The Philadelphia seventy Sixers are in news because Jimmy Butler, who I told you I report a couple of weeks ago. He had been talking James harden, and expressing strong interest in coming to Houston. James harden, expressed a strong interest in wanting Jimmy Butler, there, I have been on record saying. I think this would be disastrous. I don't believe that Chris Paul, Jimmy Butler, and James harden can. Coexist with Mike dantonio is the coach, I think, three of them can coexist. Without my dental is the coach. But with my dantonio coach, I only two of them would work together, the three of them. No way. Now, those personalities I don't think I don't think they're totally can handle it. I really really, really believe that. I think that's I think that is entirely entirely too much to expect. And I think that it's a disaster waiting to happen. That's my personal, personal belief. I'm backing up for that by one by one sec. Okay. So I think it's important to point that out. I think it's important to recognize that. All right. So that's point number one point, number two. Still not stop Jimmy Butler from expressing his interest. And if you look at Jimmy Butler, here's a reality situation. Ladies gentlemen, the Philadelphia seventy Sixers have as Burgas Jimmy Bulla has his birthright and Philadelphia seventy Sixers can offer him a five year deal for one eighty nine point seven million dollars. The most anyone else can offer him is one forty point six now understand something here. The second seventy six offer him five years, the Houston Rockets, or anybody else can offer him four years, even if the Houston Rockets, according to collect the boggling rules, what a workout a sign and trade deal for Jimmy Butler with the Philadelphia, seventy Sixers the most rockets are allowed to offer. Jimmy Butler is the four years at one, forty that's the most allowed to offer him the four years at one forty. Okay. They can't offer him more than that. They cannot do that. So because they can't do that. All right. All you could get four years, one forty. Jimmy bell. If he's willing to go to Houston is willing to lose fifty million dollars to be back in his hometown, Houston, or he was growing grew up near there. Okay. As opposed to the five years, one hundred eighty nine point seven million dollars. Now, this could all be leveraged. This could all be Jimmy Butler, try to ensure he gets five years from Philadelphia for the one eighty nine instead of four. Or it could be him saying, if the seventy Sixers are only willing to give me just four why not being why not be in Houston instead of Philadelphia. Here's an opposition of seventy Sixers. You can't go to Houston without hell. Because you don't have any cap space. So here's contract. We wanna keep here this town loves you. We love you, if you don't wanna be here, then leave on your own and get the money for elsewhere and go someplace else you don't really wanna go to. Because gonna be Houston because used to need help in order to work out a deal for Jimmy Butler. We ain't doing it all the Philadelphia seven you could say Clint cappella and every Gordon is worth Jimmy Butler. Is all up for grabs right now. If Philadelphia I keep Jimmy Butler, because it's not just about as game his personality who he is his willingness to hold everybody accountable, not by this tone. The work ethic he puts in excetera Jimmy Butler is made for Philadelphia that city. It's culture. He is made for Philadelphia. Made for it. Houston. So different ballgame. I got news for you. I Jimmy Boylan seventy Sixers have a better chance to go into the finals. Then Jimmy Boylan Houston Rockets. I really believe that. I don't think Houston, even with Jimmy James Auden and Chris Ball, beat LeBron AD. I don't think Houston with those three you can definitively say, we're beat the clippers koala and it was there. I don't believe that. I really don't. Because that's my reality. I think the Houston Rockets making colossoma say and I think there are more really needs to think about this. He's swing for the fences. That's what Darren more, we does. But of championships, our whole run. Down Moore's was striking. 'cause there's a whole speak up now. That's not entirely. I mean gin. Where's ball goes down game last year was to convert vinyls? Tour last five years, believe they're more in Iraq. It's been in the conference finals. I'm not trying to tell you that there are Maury isn't a damn good executive. And by the way, damn good, man. I'm not trying to say that would own sing is at think betting his stock on Dan, Tony to me if you're after championship Dan. Tony the way to go. Because he only coaches on one side of the ball. Now, if you talking about winning games being interesting if you're talking about all of those different things. If that's what you're talking about my attitude is this. Dantonio guy, you wanna win games. Get to the postseason. I'm all in dental ni you trying to win a championship. I so. Old. I'm just not so. That is not how I feel about my dental. I can't put it any simpler the net. Just can't do it. But that's me, by the way, our whole. Is expected to be pursued by the Dallas Mavericks, and ultimately people are suing that's gonna stop probably four years, one hundred million dollars. He's looking for more than one hundred ten I don't know if he's going to get that. But the likelihood is that he may end up in Dallas Kimball walk go end up in Boston. Kadian car. Ego end up in Brooklyn, the Knicks Endo we're close to nothing if not nothing literally. And the clippers we don't know what was going to do in terms of Toronto or the clippers. And I personally believe as an aside. That the ngelo Russell to the lake is would not be a bad deal for them at all. Did the ngelo Russell back in the Lakers uniform? Although he's still prone to stupidity from Tom. Tom. Trying to put them weed in a liquid bottle when airport the first thing they don't tell you to get rid of what they're going to check as liquid bottle. Bottom line is. LA after domino out swaggie p was. Vigeo Iggy azalea. Out his look at it, and I'm like, you know all of that's the past. Pursuing the championship with abroad, and ADA teammate. I think the ngelo Russell will be fun. If you can't get a Kimball walk all career oven, I don't mind going that route, if I'm the Los Angeles Lakers. That's basically everything going on right now. And we'll see what happens as this week in closes in on us. Let's go to Michael ally. Stephen, what's up? How you doing? All right. Speak up. Go ahead. Listen, man, the Knicks are making a great choice by just, you know, sitting impact and letting everything rock because I'll tell you the mixed got some talent that people don't know about Steve while no about, like what like Dennis Smith junior. He hasn't really gotten a chance to play last year. It was supposed to be his coming out party after injury. And what happens is Luca. Danni, comes and takes spot. But which is ballot you know, you know all star type of players, they cannot point guard, of course. Listen, Stephen gotta give these next chance. I think they're gonna put a product out there that is gonna make the playoffs. And I know that that's not good. I've been watching the Knicks. Did you did you just say that the New York Knicks the postseasons that would you even they Stephen? Listen. I'll make a deal what they make the playoffs. You give me a job. I don't want for free. I'm telling you, they're gonna make the playoffs. I have a great offer talent. Even I have I don't have a job to give them not an NBA team. But I, I. I'll put up put your name in the half or them job on a basketball team. If you make the next make the playoffs because that's the super something big if they don't get Kadian kyri. That's super stuff the real big. That's really step it out on a limb nam tell you that right now the important, I don't understand why people keep talking about curry, and they talk about Angelo Russell better than him. Head and shoulders on. Hold on hold it. You just said the Angelo Russell's better than Kyrie Irving, eighty one games. He plays. Holdover. Holdover. My man, this is when people get adult on. I'm wanting you before I do it. When I ask you a question answer, my question I. You just said the Angelo Russell's better than Kyrie Irving haddish shoulders. Have you call back. You call back another. You call back another day. I'll put you on ban. You from show banned from today show. Kobe later de ngelo Russell better than Kerry. And that's what this man, just hypocritically the ngelo Russell is better than Kyrie Irving. Okay. All right. And then, they'd say ESPN, it's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six. You're listening to even his show. ESPN radio ESPN is by the way, when you're hiring, you don't wanna waste time. So dozens of rela resumes. Do you want an efficient way to get to a short list of qualified candidates? That's why you need indeed dot com post a job. And it's set a screen of questions, based on your job requirements. The zero qualified candidates using an intuitive online dashboard this why three million businesses use indeed for hiring post job today. Indeed dot com slash Hiatt. Search for greatness, search indeed. Top of hour. Number two. Frank Sola will be on with yours truly right? Here was Stephen is radio is. Guess what? You're in the middle of Stephen swift show podcast. Dammit Smith show. The radio been news coming to you live from above the Hannigan river decade to your seventeen plus seats to a game. Download the vivid seats app into promo code champion. Check out to get ten percent off your first order. Don't buy just any seat. Get a vivid seat. Look equal I'm an equal opportunity. God. Personally speaking, I generally, like Steve mills. I, I love me some Scott Perry. He and I go back a very, very long ways and I have mad respect for David physio. Now that I think Dave physio should be the coach of the Knicks, no. But that was only had nothing to do a basketball. I thought more Jackson should have been the first selection because I thought the state of the New York Knicks was so bad that you needed a New York connection that could galvanize the fan base and convent's, folks. To support the New York Knicks because one of our very own was coaching the franchise and was going to be the face and a spokesman because we know that mills and Perry going to operate in the dock they can operate behind the scenes doing their thing. The person's gonna be front and center, talking on behalf of the New York Knicks every day is more Jackson. You see David phys Dale during the season pre and post game for the necks, whereas more Jackson, you see all year long because you're talking about a man of product of a park in queens started saying Jones, rookie of the year with the New York, Knicks Queens, New York native. That's what you talking about. But I got mad respect in love for David phys deal. I believe in this coaching ability. And if you wasn't gonna have more Jackson, he was my second choice. But when I think about this is not just about Dolan also about statements. What does this president amounts daughter, no president of the New York Knicks? He's been around now. Nobody gets absorbed for me by me when it comes to the Knicks, nobody. Steve mills. And I love Scott Perry. But in all fairness, we can't just be about talking about Dolan. Can't escape the fact that Dolan has critics. Nobody gets a pass. New York native. It's true and end up with nothing come this Sunday after trading. Kristaps. Porzingis. Nothing. Nothing nothing nothing. Brad, damon. You can't have the New York Knicks and nothing and Annette's ended told match superstars. The clippers the Lakers town. New York is concerned this ain't been the New York Mets the seventy. Which means that Brooklyn could be the team of the future in New York. Lord have mercy. Frank also up next.

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"This is the Stephen a Smith Show podcast day cut the damn music you people are getting on my nerves you getting on my nerves mattel you right now you're getting my damn nerves ladies and gentlemen before I sit up there and introduced all right I'm all right because it means some people that was going to school in the late eighties and early nineties would I put myself up against them that's all eight thought it was me jumping onto the court instead of leaving such responsibilities to the NBA Security members that the national all day every day. I'm sorry I'm just sorry to say that anyway welcome to the latest edition Stephen Smith Show coming that you love to do every weekday undertand social media okay it was not me I did no such thing but I gotTa tell you seven foot one Joel and be not jumping in the middle of that I did not at all run onto the thought and stop a fight between BLEDSOE and embiid was not me I cannot believe that this stuff is going viral I cannot believe that Basketball Association as it was not me I was in the arena and the media road drink some lemonade whatsoever bogus rumors that I jumped on a basketball court in Philadelphia last night and stopped the fight between Eric Blitz talking about it all it's all over social media I cannot believe that I got bosses sitting up there wanting to call me into their office because that's not me I'm not jumping into the middle of of the pit bull that is Eric bledsoe along with this wants to Salem or anything like that but anytime I have a diminished level of confidence all due to boost by itself is go back to homecoming be clear I do take a look pretty damn good for fifty one years old I must I I mean any time and this is not the disrespect anybody from my get knowing time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless best phones best networks no contracts couple of things that I wanted to get into how and Joel beat that was not me okay it was not me I was on the other side of the arena I go bother me I'd rather do that than be bald that's just me that's just me but I gotta tell you right now I don't I just for just just just is being brought to you by Credit Karma get your truly free credit scores and free credit monitoring from Credit Karma today Credit Karma K. 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Hey hey having said all of that here we are I was at the game in Philadelphia last night and Jaanus and the Greek for live in an age of technology where you can zoom in and out as man Kevin Hart would say and you could see like I said I was at the game last night and of course we're going to get into the final four please don't get me wrong we don't get into the final four Michigan State Texas Tech Virginia in right now and a Los Angeles Lakers and obviously the New York Knicks are involved as well because people are talking about Kevin Durant and his preferred I was in top one percent until until a damn sweet sixteen top five percent until the elite eight everything fell apart anyway through pity with that decision here's the only reason why I think it would be foolish because the Brooklyn Nets appear to be a better situation right now it's the nation and where he may end up all of this other stuff there are some people that have been saying he'd be an absolute fool to go to the New York Knicks and I gotTa admit to you that essentially a free agency it's amazing to me New York and L. A. The top two markets in the United States of America both have teams that could be making noises but neither rent to the Knicks as a done deal I haven't heard that but I'm not going to cast any aspersions on my buddy and contemporary ric bucher the nets appear to be a better situation they've got cap space they've got young talent they're going to the playoffs that with the fact that guess what Sean Marks and those boys they've got leadership in play when I look at the two biggest players they do not have a star as far as I'm concerned Atkinson they got a pretty damn good coach they got nice young talented players and then we also have to couple all Dan from a distance it did look like me I have to admit I did in my head size and you know the hairline you know my it is from their signature franchises the Nixon Lakers respectively when we're talking about free agents and the likelihood of where they could land up or the the question the credibility of others who actually had credibility if not still have it when they never had it ever in their careers stay stephen a baby come on over to the side you know it's about that time because he's bald he said let it go let it I'm trying to hold I'll give a damn look like George Jefferson being a haters that they are they wanna use that as an excuse to denigrate them our remind you that even if Rick Beukah ended up wrong about you see data and make it none of my teams made it so who the hell am I but I for those of you who care what I may think about the outcome of this upcoming final four so it came out and soil in our office and if you don't believe at Tech's social media because he put a picture of him and hug in and because we live in an age where the advent of social media has proliferated and obviously access to the digital world and television we'll wait I must admit the head is about that size and so is there a lot so I can understand the posible was stay but we the story and I don't know that it is that he is wrong that man is broken enough stories in his career for y'all sit the hell down we live in an age John and JC. I'm looking into my producer we live in an age where you got people calling out and bringing in I think it's there yet but I got something different on my mind and it's something that it's important to point out because there are people out there talking about Magic Johnson don't forget my resume does he say what you want about Stephen don't forget his resume for school newspaper talk clerk every very clear about where I'm coming from where I stand I haven't heard that about Kevin Durant I haven't heard that to start off in this business a high school reporter to go into the Philadelphia Inquirer CNN SA to foxsports to espn the done deal but if it turns out that it's not all right rebuke might have been given false information auburn those are the teams in the final four none of my damn teams made it could all Carolina they make Duke didn't make it exact it make it Tennessee the number that to me is no excuse to bring into question his credibility when he has a track record spanning years of you're a blogger you've never been a reporter or you reporting a b right who's never broken damn story pets out you got to be kidding me wisit credibility rebuke says this let me be over the Airways of ESPN radio and ESPN news number to call up as always is triple eight say espn that's eight eight eight seven nine three seven seven six the Stephen a Smith show be the case but not for the reasons that you believe will you talk about the possibility of Kevin Durant ended up in New York or New York knick to be specific and you want to associate the word yeah that's something special to behold make no mistake about it and I would love to see it but it remains to be seen what will happen say to him who I'm going to say about a rather is that the media can be quite annoying and if the media's quite annoying now what the hell is who has forgotten more stories in this business that most people know I know a lot of people is very fond if you disagree with him or you think he's wrong you got a lot of people that'll be out there tell you what it is you really Lebron James Kevin Durant both have homes in La Lebron James Kevin Rambo have each other cell phone numbers remember a preference in terms of where they and up we're talking to Brooklyn Nets and the Los Angeles Clippers we're not talking next we're not talking Lakers but according to ric bucher sat down for the remainder of this season was on the basketball court nevertheless in street clothes talking to Kevin Durant while holding his mouth what did I tell you all about be somebody for Yahoo or the bleacher report or the list goes on and on and I can give them love you know why because I'm not insecure I know what I've done in what the hell he's talking about so let's see what happens with Kevin Durant it clearly seems one of those situations where seems unlikely to me at this particular moment in time see I stood up in the city right now and it could be somebody for Fox or it could be somebody for CBS the elevated from high school right to a general sports columnist in this business has the right to sit up there and try to instagram and twitter and facebook followers built and proliferated even more that's why I'm saying so broadcast radio broadcast and you have a microphone in front of you you did you get to call people out whenever broke a dam story in your life who was on Fox sports radio the other day talking about the possibility of where Kevin durant would be he was talking about how he heard for the bleacher report that is that Kevin attention and bring attention to yourself whatever reason that may be this is what I mean what are the things that I mean about Lebron his insatiable appetite too close Gaumont Jones just finished making fun of me in this way I said I had to go ball my head down here lot people think it was me telling me to go ball Bomani say come on Home Lebron James and that narrative what tell you all about Lebron James and narratives and now you got Kevin Durant and other following two I'm not criticizing them it's fine great Janas entered the Kupo against Joel be going up against one another that was something to behold people debating whether or not that could be the best robbery what's could basketball rather could be off and offended by what he said but then they got on the phone and spoke about it so if they got on the phone and spoke about it that means they can get on the phone that's me but what I completely rule it out now I think a lot of these cats live southern California with Kyrie Irving Lebron Kevin durant leave it all his options open this is what we're talking about and whether or not materialize into something remains to be seen it really really does but I wouldn't rule it out I'll tell you this much though and Kevin Durant said something about Lebron being being a teammate of this potentially being toxic and Lebron confess to our very own Rachel Nichols that he was somewhat in terms of pressure and who has the most pressure on them in terms of making sure talent comes to La once upon a time I would have said Lebron going to like when he comes to the New York Knicks I'm praying he comes because I'm a knicks fan for life and I know what Kevin Durant bring to the table and I'm praying that he brings somebody what I'm about to say Magic Johnson Magic Johnson he's wanted to read second half of this season have been an unmitigated disaster period and Magic Johnson but after the season the Lakers had I'm GonNa put that onus on Irvin Magic Johnson Laser gentlemen let me be very very clever individuals in the history of sports who deserves to be deified he's that special this has not been a good year the Lakers in any time they wanted to write which is exactly what they can do so why the hell are you talking in front of the cameras which amounts close at that particular moment tom you know why because he's trying to shut the hell up and pay your respects does be very very clear he does the thing with this is the thing that really really gets to me sometimes the control the narrative you ain't playing anymore to season you need West you miss eighteen games the groin injury you came back reminded us of your greatness but Magic Johnson in some degree but they don't particularly like them but it is fair to say in fairness to him that a lot of that might have to jealousy when you have an iconic figure in the sports world like Kobe Bryant absolutely positively swearing by Rob Lincoln and what he means the basketball and how brilliant of a basketball there's no reason for them to be on the court talking with the cameras zeroed in on unless they wanted to damn attention well if that's what you want don't want Moan and you know what oriented by some clearly behind his back but what's undeniable is that the combination of magic and Rob Pelinka needs to be elevated there needs to be somebody in the mix you got any rant Lebron would be spectacular I think that's instant title contention Kevin Durant you're gonNA leave the supplies brothers and go to St Ah Greensboro News and Rick working for free covering high school football and Arch Dale North Carolina cry out loud it a Piedmont Triad area to Pat Riley and that can't be ignored it truly cannot I think that is incredibly incredibly important why what did you want to go to La if you went with it if you're Kevin Durant who would you rather play with Kyrie Irving Lebron who should you rather that's where I'm at with it you look at a guy in Cleveland the only because I don't see Kevin durant trying to help Lebron James Win more titles I think Kevin durant would prefer to go someplace else so he could win more titles than the bronze the Lakers have elected to sit you down why would you feel the need to talk on the basketball court you know why because you wanted the attention that's why you want people talking about you that's why you want auto because I know what he would bring to the table and obvious and him would carry urban a healthy kyrie irving as a gentleman that's box office right there's always somebody associated with a team that's unheard of unsung that's who the Lakers Need Rob Lincoln it's done a hell of a job and when you look at what he brings to the table I don't think it's deniable that he could end up being an asset to the loss Angeles Lakers and that's something that needs to happen as well he's because there's one of the best cab guys in the business by some people say here's my issue I think rob links there's a lot of jealousy out there there's a lot of envy out there you got people out there who want him to do I got you I'd be surprised Kevin ended over New York knick because Kevin Durant obviously I'm not gonNA accuse him of having thin-skinned 'cause I respect the brother what distracted by family issues which has nothing to do with magic I think it's important to point those things out I think it's important to recognize that it's important to point out that Kobe Bryant is not the only talent there rob link is represented and there's plenty of guys that may be jealous or may have been that's all I do I go back home come in and I see the people that I went to school with and I'm like does I am doing just fine the middle do just fine I'm I'm Magic Johnson got Lebron James Before Daddy drafted call Kouzmin Lonzo ball's not scrubbing just needs to be more assertive more aggressive and in closed on Magic Johnson and Rob Pelinka it's not like things can't be corrected Lakers have cap space they've got draft picks coming up being that I was I had more followers so cramming it there's no crime in it at all but those are Ni- if somebody asked you has jealous or envious of the cash aded Rob Pelinka had and the job that he did for all we know and play a role in him being expelled four Magic Johnson took over and some believe that genie bus has everything to do rapport link being there I don't know whether that's true or not I'm only telling you Brock Allen A. l. l. e. r. he was a personal assistant for Dan Gilbert for a decade but then got elevated within basketball operations it on a job this is the second season Magic Johnson but to talk about this guy like oh see got some executive out there talking about how Magic Ellsberg in Miami this pat rally and exposure but you've got a guy like any Ellsberg that monitors the cap and brings a lot of ideas to is a novice at a GM position Magic Johnson is a novice as president of basketball operations those are not negative connotations connotations it just speaks to the fact that they both just start if you want to say a falls on genie bus I would say for you to you is for this reason and this reason only there rob Pelinka is there because obviously they had a relationship aunt he is you got to pay attention to that because Kobe would know a thing about that there's very few people on the planet he trusts more to Rob Lincoln so that's important to point out business twenty five years in any be right out there has got something to say about me as as my brother Chris Hayes but Yahoo said is it is ruined the Lakers. I'm sorry what the hell were the Lakers before he got there you will Saturday Timothy Moscow Luau dance contracts when you get the attention that you clearly craved NASCAR them playing together in La people ruling that out they can't see it means they get into these reeds Jonathan went up before I get Jonathan Stop laughing at me Look Ladies and gentlemen there is no truth badly they don't like them they didn't like him when he was an agent they don't like him now that he's in the position they talked to him because they have to or because it's proper to corey it at eight say espn eight seven two three seven seven six the other side's all of this is that Kevin Durant and the Golden State Warriors playing the Lakers last night the broad James Who's been because I'm here to taste the right now magic didn't do a great job the she'll be the first to tell you that but the jury is still out the door is closed and we're talking about really acquiring somebody in free agency in order to be a title contender and maybe invest maybe listen maybe rick is right maybe Kevin Durant is a done deal go to the Knicks all I'm saying that I'm in no position to definitively say that by the way I'll get into Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers my God has that gotten ugly there's a lot of stuff to be said about that as well that's what they said I don't know that to be true and I don't know how they were trying to say that because it was via text as opposed to their voice it's an easy to save a bunch great you're not sticking around the party's just getting started I don't know that reason I don't know that I'm GonNa tell you honestly and I never wanted to say this because I think it's disres- you got people on the street you've got people in the NBA Community you got people in the hip hop community because Iraq nation and others the affiliation with that telling me it's a done deal as well I don't know that brothers arguably the best player in basketball is brothers the league he's Big Tom and I'm not GonNa talk about him like that now they could be lying I don't know I don't particularly care and if I recall my boy that Kevin Durant so of Kevin Durant's listen I wanna sit up there and tell you I never said this off believe this but I got a quote what somebody said about Kevin Durant so we'll see what happens it at eight say espn it's edited seven to nine three seven seven six you're listening to the Stephen Smith show ESPN radio ESPN news almost here and the time is now to jump on those tickets for your ticket needs look no further than vivid seats the official partner of ESPN could've ever see dot com and enter Promo Code we got we call today and see how easy homeowners and renters insurance can be you're listening to the Stephen Smith Show podcast ESPN and get ten percent off your first order get out go have an experience fellas get to the game and used vivid seats don't just by any seat get a vivid seat it at eight say Espn caussed welcome home yeah that's that's bookie what's release gearing missing at Geiko for help with homeowners and renters insurance guy that is the number to call you listened law Stephen. 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Hour 1: Giants Priorities, Dolphins Tension

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Hour 1: Giants Priorities, Dolphins Tension

"<music> ouch. That's his third travel tonight. Normally i get on this case for being a complete numskull but tonight. I'm chilling stephen. What's gotten into you. I know usually i'd be off right now but i gotta tell you this. Vivid seats thing got me completely changed one hundred percent authentic and got these great seats yesterday when a vivid seats at stress-free wait. We're doing you put on my hotdog. What's the matter with you. The old stephen we know the stephen a smith show podcast is brought to you by the new capital one safercar earned four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent at grocery stores and one percent on all other other purchases. Hey what's in your wallet. This is the stephen smith show podcast. I'm steven david. What's up everybody. Well come to the latest edition of the stephen smith. Show coming at you as i love to do every weekday over the airwaves of e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. C._b._s. news towards the united states of america. Check your a._m. F._m. listing nearest you plus e._s._p._n. Radio sirius x._m. Channel eighty plus e._s._p._n. Radio simulcast the live national television airways of e._s._p._n. News number to call up is always triple eight say e._s._p._n. That's inundated seven nine three seven seven six time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless lots of good stuff to get into today's jerry jones ezekiel elliott obviously something antonio brown yet another grievance. It's jon gruden speaking on that <hes> the subject simply will not go away some basketball talk to talk about. It 'cause just looking forward to this upcoming n._b._a. Season injuries to the los angeles angeles lakers. The hiring of tyler lewis this coach for the los angeles clippers. How much could that potentially help them in their quest to excuse me to advance to their first ever western the conference finals appearance not to mention an n._b._a. Finals appearance not to mention winning an n._b._a. Championship all of those things things that we can percolate about of course i'm willing to talk talk about the new york yankees just a little bit from the standpoint. They lost last night six to to the oakland a.'s <hes> obviously germany didn't have his greatest outing came back. <hes> from chef july third had a seven zero record in eight starts coming in the last night but gave up six runs five earned eight hits and and five and <hes> and a third innings of two obviously fall a sixteen and three on the season new york yankees lost six to still got a ten game lead in the american league east <hes> lead over the second place tampa bay rays but the rays lost to the seattle mariners as a result the as moved a percentage point the head of the race for the second spot in the american league wildcard spot these kind of things you got to pay attention to ladies and gentlemen. You can't just look into new york yankees and sit up there and call them. The bronx bomber's not there smacking home runs like going out of style and just leave it at that reality of the situation is there are sincere questions about their their rotation and when you consider what the other teams could potentially bring to the table. I'm watching everybody. I don't give a damn nuno what anybody seen from the new york yankees. There's nothing that i've i've seen that leads me to believe they can beat the houston astros. There's nothing that i've seen that that makes me believe they could beat the houston astros and oh by the way the aids could end up giving them a run for their money eventually eventually. You can't count on anybody right now. You just can't do it so that's something that i'll be talking about and and really locking in on in the days and weeks ahead ahead make no mistake about it but the first daughter businesses some football on the part of the new york giants because i touched on this a little bit yesterday in terms of oh b._j. Odell l. beckham junior intimating in an article written on the new york giants basically thought they were sending him. I don't have the exact that quote in front of me. I apologize. I had it in front of me yesterday. I don't have in front of me at this particular moment in time but essentially he was basically talking about how the giants have sent him. You know to death in cleveland. That's what he's basically trying to say. That's basically what he's trying to say and so when you look at it from that perspective he was basically accused the giants a sending him away for personal reasons. They send me here to die with the browns trade del beckham junior set that's what he said and so some people have looked at that and they've talked about getting odell beckham junior hotel beckham junior needing to get the giants out of his head. He said this was no business move. He was talking to ben baskin of sports illustrated. This wasn't no business move. This was personal. They thought they'd send me here adat. They built something that they now wanted to control and there's no need to try to control it. That's what he was talking about. In a lot of people saying odell beckham jr get the giants. How do you get to new york giants out of your head and new yorkers. You might be thinking the same thing but i got news for you. I'm gonna tell you what you need to be thinking about. If you are a new yorker if you are a new yorker if you are a fan of the big blue if you are a fan of the new york giants whose missed the playoffs for the last five years six of the last eight years if you are a fan of the new york giants you know what i think it's warranted in terms of odell beckham welcome junior and what he's alluding to. I think a legitimate argument could be made surely and specifically by the move of odell beckham jr alone. I think legitimate legitimate argument could be made legitimate discussion could be had. I think that somebody has the license to contemplate. How much is winning a priority with these new york giants now before anybody accuses me sacrilegious and just trying to create a buzz or whatever i don't know why anybody do that because i i'll say what the hell i mean and i mean what i say not that. I'm not open to correction but i definitely have plausible reasons for feeling what i feel. The giants will ask them to play the two thousand sixteen gene. They lost in the wild card. The my the game where odell beckham june you went to miami for the week on an off day. Actually he just went on and off day. He got back in time after practicing miss any practices but because he was partying on a boat with a bunch of his boys in south beach and played in green bay that sunday was targeted eleven. Tom's only caught four passes for twenty eight yards dropped about three passes was not an impressive performance by becca junior against the green bay packers of tom by any stretch of the imagination. Obviously he's been vilified prior to that giants mr postseason four straight seasons from twenty twelve to twenty fifteen eight twenty twelve twenty thirty two thousand four hundred fifteen. They're missed the playoffs now the year before they had won the super bowl prior to that they had missed the playoffs twice so we're talking since two thousand thousand eight in a decade the new york giants have made the playoffs twice one of those times they won the super bowl twenty eleven but it is now two thousand nineteen one two three four five six seven of the last nine years the new york giants have missed the postseason and we listened to miss tomorrow and we've heard tisch and we've heard shurmur and we've heard are gettleman constantly constantly constantly raving about ilah manning. Why is it beyond the pale anybody to ask whether or not the new york giants have prioritized advertised winning or do they prioritize winning anymore. It seems to me that their priorities evolve solely around protecting the legacy and massaging judging the clearly diminished performances of eli manning and odell beckham junior being being in new york city being a bit temperamental potentially truculent at times clearly averse to losing and just taking it on the chin. He's a god is going to bring attention to similar troubles that exists internally and because he's the kind of guy that would bring attention to things in that regard the new york giants saying that's not somebody that we went on a roster so to me when he talks about how they sent me here to die. You gotta think about it. It ain't just about cleveland being a franchise that hasn't been at the post assists two thousand and two. It's not just about cleveland only being two seasons removed from being oh in sixteen. It's not about them being in a model of ineptitude up until this season yeah you got myles garrett and you gotta live your vernon and you've got denzel ward and others and you drafted degree to williams outta l._s._u. And our offense you got look kareem hunt once he's allowed to come back in the league after his his transgressions involving violence against female once he's allowed to come back into the league understand that's eight games james in the first eight games they have nick show at the titans but you gotta kitten giokoo and your wife out spots you have jarvis the office landry and odell beckham julian baker mayfield second year quarterback two thousand seven hundred yards rushing in twenty seven touchdowns so you look at all of the things you look at the cleveland browns on paper obviously a lot of people are raving about them and their potential what they bring to the table and how it could be special to watch a behold but that's on paper so if you're the new york giants and you send an odell beckham junior zunyi and you know you taking him from new york to lake erie cleveland and you know how fixated he is on his brand and building it and creating endorsement opportunities himself and beyond if you recognize that these things are important to him than sending in the cleveland. It's not far fetched for him to assume you assume that would be purgatory for him. The nasdaq the reason you made a deal not the reason of course and i'm not accused of the giants of that of course they're gonna make the deal. That's in their best interest. We get all of that but somehow some way the exhaustive measures that one can only imagine agean they would go through to appease eli manning. They certainly didn't think about entertained when it came out till becker junior. I don't think it's farfetched expects to assume such a thing and says we can't assume such a thing or you can actually it's not what odor record judy had to say is not beyond the pale and when you take into account to giants recent history. When are we going to stop playing games with these new york giants lazy when you look at the new york giants think about what i said only to play appearances since two thousand eight. I just been saying that to you. Since two thousand eight only two playoff appearances was the super bowl title in twenty eleven but that's how long it's been ladies and gentlemen. Do you know that many appearances as the jets have made many appearances as jet now granted the jets haven't been to the playoffs since two thousand ten and although they didn't win the super bowl rex ryan got him to back to back conference championship game appearances with mark sanchez as quarterback with durrell visas being the face of the franchise because of what an elite corner he wants but even though the jets have made the postseason since two thousand ten. They're two postseasons. Nudo think utah to this. They're two postseason post season. Appearances equal is many posted postseason appearances as the new york giants have had since two thousand eight so since it's two thousand and eight the new york jets are tarred with the new york giants in in in postseason appearances nuno did you you think about that. Nobody thought about that. The new york jets who have won a super bowl since joe nemeth walk around in nineteen sixty nine with a fur coat or showing his legs for for for whatever the hell he was doing with those commercials that same new york jets team that has not been to a super bowl let alone one one <hes> since nineteen sixty nine have the same number postseason appearances as the new york giants at in the last decade decade. That's pretty damn pathetic. What did y'all say i mean. That's not giving new yorkers much to brag about to. Somebody needs to say this kind of stuff. They really really do. We need to stop this nonsense. We really really do and when it comes to the new york giants like the new york jets who have been unimpressed unimpressive and damn liam adopting more robust status most of the time the new york giants. We've been giving him a pass because of those two super bowls under eli manning in two twenty seven seven. I'm sorry yes in twenty two thousand seven two thousand eleven. We've been given eli manning and the new york giants pass for their recent ineptitude. The two mannix should be deified. He should be celebrated. He should be somebody to recognize the contribution that he made for the new york. Jets rent for the new york giants franchise. I'm sorry but i gotta tell ya something. If you listen to this new though if you listen to folks listen to this out there folks if you listened strong enough the new york giants and giant china and a lot of giant fans will give you the impression that ally manning has been playing for free. They'll actually give you that impression and i gotta be honest with you. It's damn there drove me nuts because i don't recall eli manning plan for free and it's really sickening to me. Eli manning you may thirty seven million dollars during the two thousand fifteen season alone as part of his new eighty four million dollar contracts around that time and included a thirty one million dollar signing bonus at the time had he played out when they said if he plays out the final year of his current contract and this is the contract his career earnings will be two hundred and fifty two point three million new no. I'm gonna say that again. Don't hide behind a computer. Look at me. When i'm talking to you two hundred and fifty two point three million dollars eliminate two time superbowl champion no doubt i would attest that their defense delivered those championships not him. He wasn't tom brady two for five hundred yards in the loss of philadelphia eagles in the super bowl. He managed never tone for three hundred yards in the super bowl super bowl. He wanted twenty one seventeen another another super bowl. He wants seventeen fourteen. I'm sorry legitimate defense. That's defense. That's not about an explosive offense. Air coryell or marina were more clayton and mark super duper or bradshaw swann stallworth. Hell even erogenous inches to jordy nelson the fact that the matter is eli manning in the new york giants when they won the super bowl. Even though some spectacular plays occurred some very lucky place occurred ilah manning and that passed has down the left sideline to mario manningham was something special to behold. No doubt clutch plays took place. The fact of the matter is the office was nothing was was no juggernaut talking on so when we look at it from that perspective and we embrace that reality it is incredibly incredibly important that we understand that this man didn't play for free manning will have earned we'll have earned. You understand what i'm about to say to you. He will earn at the end of this season two hundred fifty two point three million indian dollars ladies and gentlemen. That's a quarter of a billion dollars over a quarter of a billion dollars. Now tom brady could've made more but he made concessions sacrifices for the you better be a team. Some accounts have tom brady heavens sacrifice that lead sixty million dollars in his career with with discounted contracts for doing the patriots and over the course of his career. Tom brady has made over one hundred hundred and ninety seven million dollars laser tournament. That's about fifty five million dollars less than ally banning. The man's been a non super bowls. He's one six swings. The new england patriots have been to the playoffs practically every year since with the exception of two thousand and eight. I mean you can't make this stuff up. You just can't i'm looking at doing a patriots record right right now with the exception of two thousand eight when tom brady went down against the kansas city chiefs in game one of the n._f._l. Season a season which they finished eleven and five still with matt matt castle as their quarterback. Tom brady won the super bowl in two thousand one the very next year they missed the playoffs nine and seven seven in two thousand and two since two thousand and two. Tom brady and linga patriots have made the playoffs every every single year but one year and their record has never been worse than ten and six ever since two thousand into yet. He's made fifty five million dollars. Less than ilah manning manning's missed the playoffs for the last five years seven seven of the last night a process. He's collected two hundred and fifty two point three million dollars at least if talk about the complete this season and y'all wanna talk about him like he's played for free. The new york giants have prioritized eli manning. They have not prioritized winning not in recent memory. I think legitimate argument could be asked could be made. Do they care about winning much. They care about because guess what jones continues to shine. It ain't much to look better than how eli manning has look over the last two years. That's the case and that's the reality was the problem. It ain't much. I'm telling you all right now. This is significant thing it makes odell beckham junior's you use point as far as i'm concerned a little bit more valid enough to at least ask yourself that question sidelines buffet who benefits from that that would happen to be lamenting and i guess we saquon barkley ugly but let's just call space bay. Let's be real and honest with this stuff beckham. I'm julius doesn't appear to be too far off because clearly winning wasn't there already and that's just the truth and at eight say e._s._p._n. It's edited at at eight seven to nine three seven seven six. You listen to the show e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News by the way speaking to tom brady your philip rivers had to say about them right not conceding that he's the goat that he's the greatest of all time thrown out a different category from the goat to the boat the best of all time as opposed to the greatest of all time or whatever all i'm gonna say this. I respect the hell out of rivers. He got any business talking about tom brady. If anybody needs to bat anacom tom brady it's in because regardless of how good philip rivers has been. He ain't good enough to get to the charges over the hump. He's never played in the super bowl thompson. He's been a nine and one six six. Fill rivers ain't exactly in the greatest position in the world to dispute any superlatives superlatives throwing the tom brady's direction. Somebody's got to see it so i will. I mean especially when you consider what tom brady and the new england patriots. He's just finished doing it up. In visual play of game last last january patriots destroyed. The charge just embarrassed them. Rent them out of foxborough like i said somebody's got to say it so i will edit eight say e._s._p._n. It's seventy nine three seven seven six. You are listening to live to the stephen. Smith show so e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News a lot more to come <hes> coming up on the show. Mike tannenbaum come on with us our number two and fell analysts from g._m. And executives there's perspective looking forward to talking to him about some of the things that have been percolating in the national football league of course jerry. Jones appeared a bit agitated. Wait till you hear what he had to say. In regards to zeke elliott of course antonio brown's still has a grievance against the n._f._l. 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You know if y'all it wasn't paying attention. <hes> kenny any stills wire receiver for the miami dolphins spoke out initially the <hes> couple of weeks ago. He spoke out against his boss. The owner for the miami dolphins stephen ross <hes> stephen obviously has derived foundation fights. Oh <hes> pursuing racial equality and what have you done phenomenal job with that stuff over the years but he was doing a fundraiser for president trump and kenny stills talked about the inconsistencies in apparent democracy of that he did so without talking to the owner stephen ross which coach blind brian florez thought was the wrong thing to do you. He thought that brian flourish lease bri floors rather thought to kenny stills should have at least talk to stephen ross before going on twitter and saying what he said it <hes> so there was some beef with that kenny stills ultimately met with stephen ross <hes> and as a result <hes> they agreed to disagree that happened over the last couple of weeks and then jay z. reached the partnership with the national football league league <hes> provider him rot nation. There'll be the entertainment often the n._f._l. Particularly with super bowl halftime festivities along with fighting alongside zadi n._f._l. To address social injustices throughout our nation so can he still spoke out against that and similar fashion to the eric ries of the world who did the same can still want as far as to say he doesn't even know of jay z communicates with common folk which might be one of the most ignorant statements. I've heard in quite some time. Here's what happened yesterday yesterday. The miami emme dolphins <hes> featured musical artists jay z. at practice according to reports the the teams sound system played more than half a dozen songs body wrap at the start of practice on tuesday one day after receiving kenny stills objected to recent comments from jay z about social activism by current and former n._f._l. Players including stills according to reports is unclear whether coach blindfolded brian floors whereas was sending a message but the dolphins confirm that flora's picks the songs for practice and also confirms. This was told before practice that the play. Let's go heavy on jay z so talk about a statement talk about a statement and even though again this coach bryan flora's planet it's he he's the one that's doing it as opposed to the players themselves but clearly it's like eight or nine straight jay z. songs folks. You know that's a you know. That's a message. Let's just call it what it is. It's not act like we don't know. We know that's a hell of a message. Let's just be real about it. Okay okay. That's not even pretend and then in the latest news you on e._s._p._n. Dot com to find this out miami dolphins owner. Stephen ross has stepped down from the n._f._l. Social justice committee the team announced tuesday quote. Stephen made the decision last week in the form the n._f._l. And members of the working committee that he he was going to step aside from the group continued to focus his efforts on rise he believes in and is still fully committed to the work that has been done by the group will always always be passionate. Supporter and tyler advocate for social justice causes the fight for equal rights education. The committee includes players and team owners is an attendant and is is intended to address social justice issues last season members of the committee included arizona cardinals michael bidwell atlanta falcons on arthur blank washington redskins cornerback josh by the way brian floors head coach of the miami dolphins laser gentlemen. He's from brooklyn new york jaycees from brooklyn. We see where his loyalties lie and i have no problem with it. Whatsoever cuba is on a lot of things competed really really interested in n._f._l. Season i'm leave it at that gets into folds. Inundate say e._s._p._n. Let's go to john what's up. Hey mr smith. I'm glad to get a hold of you. Wait a minute. I wasn't talking about the giants a little bit and there's two things that i had a little bit of an issue with <hes>. You went back eleven years but you didn't go back twelve years when they want it super bowl i did. I mentioned that they want a super bowl twenty eleven and i said since they won their last super bowl. That's what i said and then before that i said they won the super bowl in twenty seven twenty seven so that's an accurate sir. I did point out that they want super bowls. We had one i. I said they went to super bowl in his career. I said they want to super bowls. That is a lie. I specifically said that two super bowls. I just pointed now what they did sense and inbetween. I read a damn thing after i had their record right in front of me. That's not true. Yes sir the other thing. You probably correct the other thing. I wanted to bring up. Probably it's definite. It's all about odell beckham. Go ahead and and i want an n._c. She double a championship. Maybe it was division three but i know a little bit about sports as a team player and sure he was allowed to go to miami and it was his off day but because could hear allowed to do something doesn't mean you should do it better off. Who said he made who said he should do it. Tell me one person who said he should do it well. He did it no. I'm saying he probably shouldn't have okay. That's my argument this this 'cause you're allowed to do something doesn't mean i'm saying augument your argument mirrors ninety nine percent of the football population he's got it got raked through the coals for that. Everybody knows he had no business going to miami on an off. When you had a playoff game sunday that that's my that's my point but you were alluding to the point that it was his off day so he can do what he wants to know. What i was alluding to who was that he didn't break any team rules but the fact that the matters he shouldn't have gone which is also said repeatedly so evidently hewlett. You hear what you want to hear but you don't really listen. Listen to the show because nobody including myself condone him going to miami matter of fact i pointed out how badly he played when he came back and showed up in green bay play hi de sunday exactly goodbye have a nice day. He's wasting my time. Let's go to chris. You'll obviously chris stephen a l. <hes> as a giants fan and anita yorker and giants fans over thirty years since i was in high school when they won that eighty six championship back back then to hear you say that the tissues in the marriage do not focus on them <hes> putting a fine product out there and catering to one man and getting rid of odell. I love the bill but looking at your stats to see. How many games did we win with him. How many any games that we went with him. Okay first of all what's again. Another is called being disingenuous because i wasn't talking about their total history. We know what bill parcells and lawrence taylor jeff hostetler phil simms. The list goes on harry carson and carl banks crew. You know they want super bowls. We get all of that. We understand dan and for years have revealed the new york giants as being a gold standard. We know that they want to super bowls in two thousand seven and two thousand and eleven but if let me ask you a question and twisted around for you so you can understand and maybe avalon even better if you are a quarterback and your team hasn't made the postseason four times in the last five years seven times in the last nine years. Don't you think i think there would be a conversation with almost any other team as to whether or not there should be a quarterback change at least a conversation i did think about about that and it hasn't happened when when when ben mcadoo benched eli manning. He was ran out of town the moment he did that. How could you do this to ally manning blah blah blah. Ah blah blah okay. Mr tissue is on record saying. He hopes he hopes that dan you jones doesn't see a snap the season because that would mean that eli manning has played really really well. He's rooting for it thirty eight years old and get them in before foyer even drafted dan you jones saying we got two or three or four years left after the way you've seen them look over the last three years. That is a strike you as a tablet habit on yeah well they. They're even they're riding on the fact that those two super bowls what you can't stand on and i disagree. I disagree with this statement with daniel jones and he's got several years they looking at tom brady and nowadays you can't really touch up the quarterback note at as much as you used to be able to in the past and now the fairness the giants offensive line which i heard you say numerous times i know that offensive line was atrocious. He was he was a punk. Whoa wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute that is that is a reality but the reality also is because because he was subjected to the lack of protection and because he ended up punch drunk to the point where he went down at the site of a pass rush the point is you can't rewind the clock and a radical those things that happened they happened they have they've they've they've provided collateral damage and as a result. He's a shell in what he used to be because of it. It may not be his fault but it still happened. I agree with the statements that the john mara made about holding off and go with actually. I think if things don't go too well this season and we will see day. You'll jones <hes> always time to move on. I agree with that but the whole deal beckham thing <hes>. I loved him to death all right. I liked his passion to win and and we didn't he. I think he took it personal personal 'cause we. We're looking at chain had to be made. We wasn't women with still didn't really have to be did it was was he not practicing. Was he not showing effort was he not going out there and trying to win. I'm not trying to sit up here and act like go down beckham. Julia wasn't a headache that sometimes tylenol ibuprofen or advil wasn't required. Please don't get me wrong but what i'm saying thing is that's about the size of it. I remember one last thing. Remember the tom coughlin when he was there a member of the game against the carolina when josh norman it was still with the panthers member that game. I was saying that i did not start right there. That was a disgraceful the performance by all dell beckham junior no doubt but i got a simple question for you. Are you ready for this and i need to cancel. 'cause i gotta go. If that's the case why they both gone 'cause it's going to. I know i agree with that. I think he was a scapegoat first of all for this season as head call me back tomorrow he was scapegoat. 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"The Stephen Smith Show podcast is a present about capital one card when you earn unlimited double malls on every purchase your next trip is closer than you think. Hey what's in your wallet. This is this even A. Smith Show podcast. They should have seen this coming. We should've seen it college football. Getting soft words or offensive enhanced symbols are offensive and everybody's looking to be a victim. Everybody wants to be offended so Stephen A. Smith Show on E._S._p._N.. Radio and the E._S._p._N.. APP Siriusxm Channel Eighty on E._S._P._N.. News will cain filling in for Stephen coming up a little bit later in the show another major another chance for Tiger Woods to catch Jack Nicklaus will he do it. Will he ever her catch Jack Nicklaus. That's coming up later in the show but you need to a game download the vivid seats APP and enter Promo Code Champs at checkout to get ten percent off your first order. Don't buy just any seat get a vivid seat. You you know I long ago traded the potential for you to like me for the obligation to tell you exactly the unvarnished truth as I see it occurs in both light topics and heavy topics occurs on sports exclusive topics in ones that push our buttons a little bit more an coming out here hoping to please as many of you as possible not coming out here trying to turn you into my friend trying to tell you the truth them something that I feel like is <hes> honestly in short supply short supply and the media short supply in the world how many people look straight in the eye and tell you what they think. You want to hear. How many people look straight in the eye and tell you pretty little lies hoping just end about this thing unscathed? Hopefully you like him. It's actually an insult. It's actually the opposite respect. Respect is telling you exactly the way I see it. Respect is letting the chips fall where they may because at least you'll know where I'm coming from. I got a sports tate coming up in just a moment. The long ago made a few people mad now. What do you know seems to become untrue and then there's this topic out of the world of college football? The big twelve has decided the the horns down sign will be penalized if done in an intimidating fashion you guys have all seen this Texas longhorns play or actually win. They don't play sometimes you'll see people in the crowd increasing. You'll see players on the field. Take the horns on that. Everybody does WHO's affiliated University of Texas Pinky and forefinger up making a hook them horns and pointing it down. It's a sign of disrespect. It's right there in the face of Longhorns fans ends and alumni both of which I am and apparently college football has had enough of it. I Greg burks. The big twelve coordinator of officials said that this and I'm quoting like any play there is a degree who it's directed at if they do it in their bench area. We're not gonNA look at it. It will be like any other celebration fell so it has to be like any foul we have does it rise to the level. Oh we need to deal with that. It's a hot topic. I know people want us to be definitive on that but it's like any touchdown celebration. Is it directed an opponent or just a celebration with your teammates so it's like pornography then or at least how the Supreme Court try to define obscenity and pornography. I can't tell you what it is but I know it when I see it so when official in the big twelve can't tell you when horns down isn't a penalty but he'll know it when he sees it. It's a degree thing. Did you do it in an intimidating fashion. We try to show up your opponent. We just have fun Joey. Galloway E._S._p._N.'s college football analyst says come on and either is or it isn't man what are we doing. We're not have enough to worry about where it's like. Do it quickly. Don't do it too long. Don't directed at someone either outlaw or allow it. I think you get into a point where you're trying to judge how long they're doing. It is Kinda strange to me. I don't mind people don't it but Texas will be really good football team this year and so this football team at Texas with what Sam Eleanor's quarterback have a chance to win the big twelve if they don't like people doing it simply go out there and win Games was Texas should do but I do not like getting to a point where we're starting to judge how long along they did it. Were they directed at where they did. That is strange to me either allow or don't allow it totally agree with Joey. It's week it's week sauce and it's a gray area and all it's going to invite is debate debate and controversy. Some ref decides either is or isn't it's over the line or doesn't it's intimidating or it's fun and celebrate Tori. Get Out of here with that man. You can't tell the difference and that's why you shouldn't be penalizing communication anyway. Look I'm a longhorn alumni and a longhorn fan deal with it. Don't deal in victimhood. Don't deal in the false power of being offended man. This is everything today. Can I be offended. Can you be offended. Can we commandeer some victimhood. Can we take power over somebody else. There's so much weakness involved in this. It's overtop first of all the rule which isn't definitive week second by the way. I think it's week to do horns down. It's gotten to the point where it's not even anybody playing Texas. Traditionally this was for rivals. That's trotted out there. It was sooner fans. razorback fans aggie eighty fans horns down when they played the longhorns then it seems like those fans started spreading to West Virginia or anybody else. It was playing Texas T._C._U.. Texas tech whatever it may be then horns down started showing up everywhere even if you didn't have a rivalry with Texas and then weirdest of all weirdest weirdest Texas isn't even on the field and people are doing horns down West Virginia against Kansas and West Virginia's Rockin. They're doing horns down explained to me how that works insulting Texas when Texan is on the field. It seems to be the weakest. Of everything makes no sense but it's not weakest of everything because even weaker than a gray rule even weaker and doing horns down every time you're playing Johnny Foxborough Borough at Division Three Eastern Carolina even weaker than all that is the idea that we should all be worried about human communication at words at every turn you cannot police this. You cannot mitigate this. You can't do this man and this morning on Golic and Wingo they asked am I that fragile Michael Junior and and Jason Fitz asking how all this went down is this. Is this how Texas fans have gotten. This is the lamest most sensitive thing I've heard in a while on that I I don't understand why we have decided to protect the delicate apparently and I don't even WanNa want this on them because this is not a vending college football rules thing but we acting like we must protect the delicate sensibilities of Texas fans fragile no no junior. I'm not that fragile but I can tell you this. A ton of people are and you shouldn't act like this came out of nowhere. You shouldn't be surprised you've been getting warning shots across the bow and you've been getting long bitter runway laid out to see this one coming from a mile away when we spend a good percentage of our year pretending like the O._K.. Symbol has turned into a symbol of offense that the circle game at any he given time. Is Somebody out there trying to trot out white supremacy if we pretend like the word owner in the N._B._A.. is now beyond the Pale. If we take a turn at every time we can to find a benign and turn it into malignant are. Are you really going to act surprised when somebody says horns down has totally offended them. Please men were headed down a road where anything at any given time can cause a fence take the most the most benign of symbols which some would say the okay symbol was that but whatever's next and they're going to turn it into the sign of the devil so don't act like where did we come from to get this fragility man. We've been coming along way for a lot of years and that's the truth truth no matter how many friends it doesn't make me that's the truth my fellow Longhorn fans don't buy into it. Don't cloak and victimhood. Don't worry about offense and I don't think most Longhorn fans give a one hot damn about this but I'll tell you this. Is it just another in a long line of opportunities to cloak ourselves in victimhood when that's on this for all the people out there that adopt the horns down sign the way the Longhorn fans should handle this is the way came from my one of my favorite books. It's called the fountainhead by Ayn rand and there's a line in it where this enemy of this main character who was an architect named Howard rourke the enemy of Ellsworth to just slimy individual whose only goal in life was to take down somebody who does something great his critic and a newspaper he launches long campaign over years to take down this genius architect to ruin his work say what's glorious is hideous to say what's great is bad and after this long set of years seemingly setting himself as the enemy of this great architect they finally meet they finally meet in person and this is where the villain walks up to the hero and says this tell me really really honestly give it to me. Tell me what it is you think of me and the architect Howard Org says but I don't think of you that is how you handle people trying to offend you. That is how you handle insults that is power mad not being offended not thinking of them all right. I asked you a little bit earlier. Who took the bigger risk in the N._B._A.? Wasn't the Lakers are the nets will cain filling in for Stephen A.. You can give me a call eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six now. I WANNA put this to a guy who played in the N._B._A.. I WANNA put it to a thirteen senior N._B._A.. Veteran Quinn Richardson Q. Riches with me on the Stephen Smith Show with William. What's up Quinton? I'm good. I'm good happy to be here. What's going on with to play man? I'm just hanging out just not making friends but telling it the way I see it but what hey hey I laid this a little bit earlier Q.. What do you think what do you think was the bigger risk was the Lakers taken on a d. with only one year of commitment because you know he's unrestricted next year and he's GonNa take it all the way according to eighty and rich Paul or was it the nets taken on k. d. n. inquiry kind of unknown in Chemistry and leadership and how it all meshes? I'm not saying that either deal shouldn't have been done Q.. I'm just saying let's acknowledge the risks so who took on the bigger risk <hes> if you had let's say you had to say who took on a bigger risk. I guess you would say you know Brooklyn because I feel like going into the situation where A._D.. Comments Lebron and the Lakers with them both being represented by rich Paul that those things are kind of unfair but he's GonNa resign there. He's GonNa be there for you know side for Meadville. After this year <hes> he becomes an unrestricted free agency. I think we're Brooklyn. The risks that they take is just like you say the chemistry those two guys and everybody goes around them and I think we all are pretty certain that they get back to full health but I right now I know how how concerned are you about chemistry though cue we saw what happened with Kyrie in Boston to me. There were mirror images. That's the thing like here was Boston. A young team that had performed above expectations who had some roles set and probably had the role set more than anybody in Brooklyn already does but you put Kyrie in the situation and it doesn't work out right didn't work out chemistry didn't work out leadership. It didn't work out and personality and it's kind of like that in Brooklyn Right now right with the young guys who overachieved Spencer Dinwiddie Charissa Avert Jared Allen Joe Harris so what is it man. I mean do you worry about Kyrie's ability to fit into that or lead that I don't think I don't. I don't worry about it as much as a scenario in Boston I think now they have you know De'andre Jordan. Some of those younger guys are more mature expensive than what we mentioned already. He's gotten his money. He's paid not as much. I <hes> pressure on him to do as much. I think he's going to be a phenomenal player for them but I think some of the scenarios and the roads are defined different expensive already coming off the bench but hide the All star the Angelo Russell so he was already fitting into that position so to speak and and I think now I think I read learned a lot from the scenario with the BHADRA IN BOSTON. I think the one thing that is unfortunate that he has to go through his first year without K._B.. Now and New York as we all know that can become tumultuous at times <hes> and you know that that's something that will stay tuned and the-they how he'll deal with that how that whole thing will play out. Hey man you brought up didn't what he's already got paid. That's kind of fascinating to me so Quentin Richardson here on the Stephen. A Smith show is will cain so Q.. Here's something I was just reading about this that I think a lot of us from the outside. Don't fully appreciate the effect that money has on chemistry so in other words guys got paid at a level that makes him the highest paid player the second best player on the team but isn't really there in ability isn't there in stature that can really jack up teams chemistry. I was reading like you got to the pay window at a different time right so I'm trying to think of the perfect example of this but a guy getting paid you know let's call it top dollar second top top dollar on a team but he's really like third or fourth option can ruin teams chemistry. Is that the way it is in a lock room like guys see contracts and think it should really follow pecking order and when it doesn't it messes up the locker room bears no real uniform to that what correct I think from situation if it's wasting that that's absolutely true and then situation is if had absolutely nothing to do with it so I think it goes from from from different from team to paint two different scenarios and situations. I don't think it's something Dan did you could say is uniform across the board either way. I can't say I've I've witnessed situations and and <hes> when I was in the N._B._A.. I Van Privy to stay situations where by saying it's gone in the wrong way and other other times. It's completely nothing to do with it at all. Can you tell me an example of that. Can you tell me when you saw go bad. <hes> I can tell you when I go good when I signed when I signed on <hes> an old four zero five when I signed on with the Phoenix MM signs they find <hes> Steve Nash that same that same summer and we had a situation where you know Steve was clearly our best player coming in and make the same amount of money to disarm area. May I was highest paid player and you had a mar emerging that year probably is our best player outside of even as being the M._v._p.. Mari was like our driving force so you had a bunch of guys and he goes on that team where money meant nothing right. I think Humanitas was the greatest example being selfless and unselfish and all those things in a superstar at that I'd ever been around at that point so I'm trying to think of an example where that risk could be presenting itself in today's N._B._A.. Talking to Quentin in Richardson here on the Stephen a Smith show with will cain. Let me let me offer you want. It may not be the best price the first ones popping into my head Q.. So Tobias Harris maxed out right <hes> Benjamin just signed an extension and they both now make more than Joel embiid now. I don't know their personalities but that's an example. Isn't it of something like this could happen right. <hes> I I would say possibly but when you get into this situation you guys really got to be egotistical to be you know the bickering over who made those guys so much money right now if that would be ridiculous Brian for one of those guys to be jealous of either any of them right those three guys are making a boatload of money where they shouldn't be having a look at anybody. Else's plate plate is not disinclined. How about this one? What about what draymond makes compared to what Diangelo Russel now makes in Golden State? I don't think that's a situation where dre mind. We'll be looking like that's why I say well. You're looking at the scenario scenario. That's something that the j minos has nothing to do with him and he was going to be when it went in when his time comes up. He's going to be looking for for his Bolo. I think if he doesn't get what he wants to get dental to become a problem and maybe you'll wanNA leave or whatever but I think up until that point they might go about his business trying to do what he has to do knowing that he's GonNa actually what he asked for and then at that point if he doesn't get it he's going to deal with it accordingly. Yeah I here you and the thing about it is man. I'm I'm not debating you I'm just trying to. I don't know if I'm playing devil's advocate. I'm just thinking this outlook. dre Mom's been a part of multiple championships. He's a core component and incomes de Ngelo Russell. He gets to the pay window. It's his time it makes sense. Why he makes more right anybody anybody can logically get it because he got paid right? Now in the wars wanted to bring somebody in but he's got a look at what Diangelo Russel who's contributed nothing to all of their championships versus him make and all I'm saying is you brought up ego and I'm really not indicting any a particular person but doesn't go take down everything in the end like think of every dynasty in the N._B._A.. The N._F._l.. In any team sport where chemistry's key in the end it is kind of ego the takes everything down right. That's a hundred percent true but I mean in this situation when you look at the Golden State by now for me. It's hard for me to see egos doing that. Because their their biggest star from start to finish has been steph curry and he's probably the you no the guy with the smallest ego right and and and he doesn't none none of that comes from San you feel everything is welcoming all the by one of the most down to earth stars and cool players. You haven't been around and be a superstar on that level so I think he kinda drives the force of that environment. I think you have the other people that are huge assets and huge impacts upon the amnesty as well but I think he overwhelms everything when he's there and he tells me he's Steve Good does when they're always there most steady whenever he around no matter what other noise is going along when Steph is bare and he's healthy and he's feeling good. I think everything is kind of stabilized with them. Well that's a good point. That's well taking because you just described how Steve Nash dictated traded that egos were set aside in Phoenix Steph curry the same thing in Golden State when Richardson here thirteen year M._B._A.. Vet On the Stephen a Smith show with will cain Q.. I WanNa play a piece of sound from Charles Barkley's T._N._T.. N._B._A. analyst he was <hes> he was. was on I believe it was get up yesterday and he said this about the Eastern Conference Okay clearly deputy seventy six edition going. I'll get al offered and I think tha five hours is gonna be terrific there but let me taste something is GonNa come down the Ben Simmons and Joel B. I wonder in Philadelphia who has the courage and spa the tail Joel M._p.. Your man you got to get in shape. I wanted to have that person person on the team on a personal detail being someone's you oh man. We just get you a hundred seven million dollars. Can you please work on your jump shot if those two guys improve their game the Philadelphia Seventy sixers to me are the clear favourite in the Eastern Conference sixers or the clear favourite according to Chuck. Why should it be forgetting about the bucks Q.? I don't know I don't know they definitely are overlooked. I feel like Charles overlooking them but I in a way I agree agree. What he said was 'cause I mean if you look at it? They could have easily been there of Colorado. The hit that amazing side we don't know who the one in that series between those two but I I the part of the part I disagree with Charles about as I feel like they absolutely absolutely have a player who say different things to either of those guys about improving their games or improving their bodies or whatever it is. I think bio terrorists is absolutely a player and a person who is living example of a true through professional the way he carries himself on a day-to-day basis on the court off the court with his nutrition with his with his workout regimen. I I was with them in Detroit and I got a chance to see it up. Close and personal key is the true picture of what you want your professional your he's a young in the game so I mean that's the awesome part of He's not even over twenty five or twenty six years old and he's still a true picture of a professional and what you would want her younger guys and which are locker room to look like when you see them. Gosh up to work all right man good stuff as always appreciate having you on Quinn. I appreciate it man. Thank you all right that's N._B._A.. Veteran Quentin Richardson here on the Stephen Smith show with will cain so I laid yeah for you what I thought just the way it is. It's the truth about everybody wanted to be offended about. Horns down okay similar whatever it may be. Why sold you? I'm GonNa tell you the way it is the way I see it regardless. I do it three to six eastern every every day on E._S._p._N.. Radio and E._S._P._N.. News I did it a few years ago. When it came to a football team and an icon a legend and his shortcomings his failures and ultimately the pressure would be on him to get the job done and here we are years later and it looks like I was right about John Elway and the Denver broncos? That's next on Stephen Smith show on E._S._P._N.. Radio and the E._S._p._N.. APP will cain filling in for Steven when it comes to hiring. You don't have time to waste you need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast. That's why you need indeed dot Com post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on qualified candidates using an intuitive online dashboard and when you need to hire fast ask celebrate your results with sponsor jobs new users can try it for free at indeed dot Com Slash Smith. That's indeed dot Com Slash Smith S. M. I T. H.. Terms conditions and quality standards apply GEICO presents aches another voicemail from your roommate Shefrin me. Hey Piper in the basement completely flooded anyway. 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Television and Radio Channel but we're teeing off tomorrow with yet another major this one the open across the pond and it's another chance for tiger woods to catch Jack Nicklaus Tiger Woods of Sydney fifteen majors and Jack Nicklaus the the all time leader is sitting at eighteen majors and after winning the masters. Many thing to chase is back on. I'll tell you one chase I find fascinating is the chase for the latest trend in dietary needs Phil Mickelson's been having a rough go of lately hasn't been playing that well and Phil Mickelson his decided before the open. He's going to go through some fasting. Six days of fasting dropped fifteen pounds and my wife started doing this. Fasting thing even knows everybody's doing the fasting thing intermittent fasting mice. We have them for breakfast so I'll know you're having but I'm not having breakfast. Everybody Kito Atkins South Beach Caveman Diet. I mean really honestly what does it say about us that we do. This chase trend after trend after it really says something fascinating like this is how you make money well. It's two ways how you make money one cell the next trend help just think of that where does die you can probably right booking followers. You'RE GONNA make money but other ways like ignore. The trans like just be Warren Buffett be the value we the train on the tracks letter bales. We've all over the place you keep going in your direction. Swear bike. DOC tide comes in tied COE's out you only know who's swimming naked one of those two times. I don't think tiger is going to catch Jack. I don't think he can I don't think he can at this point in the game things too late fifteen to eighteen at this age nominee Ghazwan. When majors into their forties like this tiger to rack up three more is just too much? I think he's got one more in him but I don't think he has three much less four A._C.. In Michigan what do you think A._C.. You're on the Stephen. Smith show with will cain good afternoon. How're you doing good all right well? Where's MRS screaming invade taking taking his vacation? This is screaming. Okay now. Mr Let's say will cain. Mr Dallas cowboys all do this bunch of losers as a Texas football fan. I'm predicting Solar Tiger wars not catch Jack Nicklaus his previous myself told him back without being citing Dallas cowboys they the hook them Horns A._c. came in hot okay. Did you just park with a nice little salutation to me with hook them horns so you hated the cowboys. You had a few things to say about me some choice words about <unk> out Steven A. But you're going to give me a hook them horns on the way out. Is that right A._C.. He landed he stuck his landing with a Oh Comorans speaking of that. I just laid out how we've gone to the soft place in college football. We got into soft place in society. We should've seen it coming from a mile away. Horns down his now offensive man. Please Richard and Texas. What's up? You're on the Stephen. Smith show is will cain. Hey well. Thanks for taking my call <hes>. I'm GONNA take you back before you were born. In the vicinity of nineteen fifty eight through nineteen sixty <hes> bear Bryant had just left and went over to Alabama and they're all coming in Texas and there was a poor aggies chant coming from stands whenever there was a football game and they act in the for hey we're not a victim. We just started stealing mascots took her. You know nowadays everybody wants to be a victim like you. Were saying no more in those days. We just go get your mascot and take your bear and take the horse from S._M._U.. Mu and all that so that's what that's all take care of it. I am not a victim. I get even that's right. That's my saying I'm I'm over. Watch out thumbs up giggles next that one's gotta be offensive to somebody somehow someway coming for giggle next. I I do remember that. I don't think you can do that anymore. Can you steal mascots man. I remember back in the day. That was a thing Oh lassie dog whatever revelry you got over their name gets kidnapped Bebo gets kidnapped. Everybody get kidnapped seven mascots. That's that's still a thing. I don't think you can do that anymore. Pete has got to be all over that are I'm about to lay out for you the one G._M.. Who is about to come under scrutiny but let me hit up a few more calls on the Shell Pennzoil Performance Line Carlos and Kelly what's up Carlos Stephen Smith show with will cain? Hello Hello Hello Hello. How's it going? It's going what's up man. I did this. This will cain. It is Carlos and you're you're on the air will cain man. You're the man thanks for taking my call. I watch your show every morning glad to have you. What's up today? I just want to let you know that Lebron James and Anthony Davis is the best duo and the N._B._A.. And the Lakers got the most complete roster and they're gonNA WE WENT JEFF shift here. Okay thanks for letting me know Carlos. I appreciate it. I agree with you best duo in the N._B._A.. But not best roster not even the best roster in town best duo in the N._B._A.. Lebron A._D.. But not as good not as a well rounded roster roster as the Los Angeles Clippers all right. Here is the opinion that I should out a few years ago that was very unpopular but that seems to be the way it goes with me and everybody including my wife I hated you. I man now you one of my favorites. That's ridiculous. What you just said a little bit of time passes? I turned out to be true couple years ago. I said John Elway has totally fumbled the quarterback position Denver and he's really constant honestly fumbled roster since they're Peyton manning run from two thousand twelve to two thousand fifteen think about the cycle of quarterbacks the Denver broncos have gone through from Paxton Lynch two Trevor Simian Brock Osweiler to case keenum. It's been a constant pursuit of who can play quarterback in Denver not named Peyton manning now. I know those four years were great twelve when seasons to Super Bowl appearances a win but you're now looking at in Denver to straight to straight ten law seasons. You've got a roster now where you have to drafts in two thousand sixteen and Seventeen. They didn't prove prove to have very much in Oh. You got one drafted player. Now one drafted player the made the pro bowl. That's von Miller you on the entire roster by the way entire roster now you get credit for undrafted free agents and you also have Philip Lindsay and Chris Harris Junior who are pro bowlers but John elway is such a legend as a quarterback and in a window as a G._M.. That you have to worship at the altar of John Elway. You can't tell the truth about the way this franchise has gone over the last four years and the Denver Broncos now are in a position where Louis Riddick is on. I take suggesting that third place in the A._F._C. West goes to the Oakland Raiders. Of course you got the chargers in the chiefs leading the pack and the Broncos once again still in search of a quarterback and fighting statal bottom in their division. Now I asked SD E._S._P._N.. Football analyst Dan Orlovsky just a little bit earlier here on the Stephen a Smith show they got a new quarterback and Joe Flacco by the way so the Miami Dolphins and Josh Rosen The Washington redskins in Kaethe case keenum and the Jacksonville Jaguars Nick foles. I said which one of those quarterbacks would have the most success in Denver lost. He did say this JOE FLACCO IN DENVER. They're going to a team that has three first rounders on their offensive line. Basically they have the Best Offensive Line coaching football. They've got a really good one receiver. They've got true really young and up and coming talented wide receivers a first round tight end than average thirteen yards a catch in college football two of the Premier Pass rushers in our league one of the best cover corners and two fantastic nickelback. Now if I told you that this team was ex- you would not think the Broncos but that's the Broncos they have some good players on their football team and a pro bowl running back and so I'm going like Joe flacco features goes and bees and is what he's been his whole career the average the broncos who lost four games in a row and the season last year are going to be better than people think mainly because they still have a lot of good pieces. I disagree with Orlovsky. I don't think FLACCO INS that season as the starter I think he finds himself along the long list of names now of Mrs at the quarterback position Denver. I think drew lock will be playing at some point by the way to finish out the question. I asked analog scheme adding Dwayne. Ask and it's going to be playing in Washington. Case keenum doesn't finish out the season. I think nick foles is is going to have some trouble outside of Philadelphia. I thought he might even be the answer in Philly but he's not and I always wondered well if he's not in Philly. Does it work. Thank Josh Rosen the most interesting among those four quarterbacks. I don't think he wins the job in Miami. I'm not sure there's anything he can do but he might win the opportunity to be somebody's franchise quarterback across the N._F._l.. If he can play well enough Miami there's still enough on the Josh Rosen tree and a fruit enough promise enough upside on the Josh Rosen career rear for him to show this year Miami and somebody else to realize that is a real value proposition but I told you years ago and I was mocked by some Denver scribes and I was nobody wanted to here at this job and Denver is not getting done now four years later three years later whatever it is it's obvious to everybody and John elway asked proof. He has to withstand the scrutiny he has to fix Denver or this'll be like some of these other takes crazy. You're crazy. You're controlling your attention. Seeking a little bit of time passes on to something twenty twenty hindsight doesn't mean you have good vision just means. You're good lookin' behind you. You look ahead see what's ahead and try not to call it. Crazy will cain fill in for Stephen a Smith on E._S._p._N.. Radio your calls next. I'm Steven A.. Smith show with Wilkin. Guess what you're in the middle of a Stephen a swift show podcast Stephen Smith show on E._S._p._N.. Radio will cain filling in for Stephen A.. You can normally catch me three to six eastern. If you missed any of the show today including where I laid out the arguments about who took the bigger risk the nets or the Lakers and you can get my answer to that debate go check it out on demand. The Stephanie Smith Broadcast brought to you by the capital venture card earn unlimited double miles on every purchase everyday. What's in your wallet? I told you just like my wife. Everybody's relationship with me. Including you know we'll show nemesis the Stephen a Smith show producer Nuno Nuno from Portugal Commercial Break Nuno Pre show Nuno Nuno. Every relationship goes like this and Curtis Purdue on twitter lays out. I'm listening to the show and it's true. I didn't like you at all and now I love you. I don't agree with some of the things you say but I respect you in the end. Isn't that what we want. We want honest confrontation over dishonest harmony. Don't tell me pretty little lies to my face ace and be fake and be somebody else when you rather somebody just saying hey man. Here's what I think Bali this business. Here's what this business is for his. What maybe this is what the world's full of the world is full of people who how how does this work say things to try to make you like them but our total rick's in personality in real life like my opinion should placate you but my personality stinks? I can name names or hey. My opinion is what it is. I don't care if you like it but we could go get beers. We can like each other. I choose option B. Hopefully you do as well here on the Stephen a Smith Show on E._S._p._N.. Radio presented by progressive insurance quote by and save on Home Home Insurance with progressive new homequote explorer only at Progressive Dot Com. Let's phone line slade in Seattle. What's up slay? You're on the Stephen Smith show with will cain will okay and what's up man. You tell me so I I know that you think either the Lakers of the nets had the riskiest off season but I'm sorry to tell you I actually think it's the seventy sixers because in a choice between option being a and B I do. I'm not I'm I'm <music> out of the out of the box kind of Guy Okay but <hes> signing Ben Simmons to a long term deal in my opinion first of all he hasn't shown any his numbers are pretty much the same as of last year and in the League that we're in today you need to be able to shoot threes and that's something that he hasn't shown to do it now. If you could in my opinion if you could even just shoot like thirty two percent from three thirty three percents tall task from zero percent well. I I agree with you but I mean you gotTa start somewhere but I you have to at least make the defense respect the shot. You know what I mean. Here's the thing I I mean I hear you. We all know Ben Simmons weaknesses but you really going to walk away from that talent. Are you really not going to give that guy money. Are you really walking away from from Ben Simmons. I I did no no. You're not that that pause. That starter was annot right fair enough but I also think with Joel embiid in the playoffs you could see he could only Klay One one one hundred percent game yeah listen. Here's the thing slate out. I laid it out the other day on the wheel Cain show. I think Tobias Harris is a risky contract. I think that's actually a risky contract as well so I hear you. I don't mind although this you can see your way now. Now that you chose C. BETWEEN OPTIONS A and B I don't disagree with the sixers moves are risky but the I'm going to end this with where I started. Okay just because we acknowledged the risks doesn't mean you don't do the deal. The Lakers needed to go all in and trade for a d despite the fact that they gave up the house for a guy who's committed for one year. WHO's going to go into free agency yet? We need to acknowledge the risks. That's how we're real about minimizing them. The Nets need to acknowledge the risks of K. D. and Kyrie's chemistry questions and how that works with young guys in Katie's health and yet still no we go in on it again no the risks but don't let them.

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I'm going to unveil wills weekly quarterback depth chart after ten weeks of the NFL season. Who Do I think of the top five quarterbacks through this point of the season is something I normally the Wilkin show? We're GONNA unveil for you today. Here on the Stephen a Smith show and we're going to lay out the teams the might have legitimate interest in Colin Kaepernick apnea who checks the boxes of need strategy and ability to integrate Colin Kaepernick into their organization. But it's time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless. Why let us start with why? Why is the NFL? Working out. Colin Colin Kaepernick. This weekend you can answer that question. Eight at eight seven to nine three seven seven. Six two story has come up. Virtually out of nowhere Colin Colin Kaepernick. This Saturday will be worked out with an invitation. Sin To all thirty two teams at an NFL facility in Atlanta Georgia. The Atlanta Falcons facility will be the home of one of the first ever. NFL many combines for one single individual player why why is the NFL doing this. Why are they doing it ten weeks into the NFL season? Why are they doing with very little notice to the NFL teams? Why are they doing with just ninety? Six hours of notice in preparation ration- for Colin Kaepernick. Why are they working him out? You answer that question. Eight seven to nine three seven seven six. There are three reasons. I've I've heard proffered today about the purpose of this workout. They are as follows number one a public relations stunt the NFL's just trying to save face number two. It's gotta be some legal requirement. It's got to be a part of the settlement or it's got to be a part of some big business required by a third party or number three. It's legit legit there are. NFL teams who are interested in con- cabinet and they need the cover of the NFL. They need the cover of their NFL. Brethren they need the cover of multiple teams to see if he's still got it. Let me walk through those three potential reasons. Why Colin Kaepernick? Nick will be working out this weekend. I think two of them hold water and one does not make sense. I is this a PR stunt by the the NFL. That's what Ryan Clark. ESPN Phyllis said this morning on. Get up listen. This seems like a setup I know. They said they set this workout. This seems like a setup away to distance themselves elves from the Black Ball. Talk away to distance themselves from. We don't want Colin Kaepernick as a part of this league or a part of the NFL and so to me there. You don't it doesn't would have to be an NFL facility this facilities all over the country where you can go indoors. They don't necessarily make college players workout at NFL facilities. You know what they do. They go to their schools. And so if you are truly interested if Colin Kaepernick if you're interested in seeing if he's in shape if he's somebody that can help your football teams. There are ways that you can go about doing in this without making it so public because now it's about the PR. Now it's about US talking about it about the tweets there is not going to be GM. There's not going to be coaches there. And I believe leave Colin Kaepernick and his team is savvy enough to understand that but when you try to move it to Tuesday when you try to get different things done and they won't do it. That smells to me. It smells like a setup it smells like a PR stunt according to Ryan Clark and he points to a couple reasons that he believes it's all set up number one reportedly Colin Kaepernick's EXC camp responded to the NFL's invitation with. Can we do it on. A Tuesday Tuesday is traditionally the. NFL's Day off so head coaches in GM's would be more available than they are on a Saturday where teams are traveling to game sites for Big Sunday matches they are unavailable to work out new players in the NFL said no it will not be on a Tuesday. It will be on a Saturday in fact this Saturday. According to Yahoo Sports columnist Charles Robinson he also smells a rat he wrote. The following is three paragraphs. I think they're fascinating. I WANNA share them with you. I I A representative from the League called a select group of reporters last week and suggested they should be available on the following Tuesday for a worthwhile news development development the. NFL wouldn't say what it would be just that reporters should be ready to share some breaking news when the day arrived the NFL called capper Knicks representatives for the first time in more than a year instructing into the league was willing to hold a private pro day style workout for capper Nick in Atlanta in four days. If he accepted a memo would be sent to every. NFL team inviting them to attend. This is stunning. This is announcing to reporters get ready. We've got something too big for you in seven days. This is announcing to capture. Nick get ready because we have something for you in the next day or two. This is announcing to the NFL. Get ready because we have something for everyone in four days this is the NFL setting up a public relations event. Is it a PR stunt. Robinson goes on the League would. Nancy White was suddenly making the offer. It wouldn't say who came up with the idea it wouldn't say who would attend and it wouldn't say why the workout was roughly ninety six hours away on a Saturday when most NFL teams preparing for a game but the NFL would say say this. After nearly three years of waiting for this offer capper Nick had two hours to accept it as Charles Robinson at Yahoo due dot com. It all smells like a rat Desmond Howard. Espn College football analyst. WHO said this on get up I think is as a PR stunt a disingenuous attempt to try to say we gave the guy a apple to get into the NFL? Whoever wants to come? It's like a theater. It's like a movie written directed scripted and produced by the NFL by their own PR purposes in. His collar. Says he didn't even know about it. Now the The star of your movie you just gave him the green light. Yeah Yeah you got to come to this facility start-up it's a PR and it seems very disingenuous. I have to admit to Ryan Clark Desmond Howard or Charles Robinson. The details certainly lead you down this path. The short notice the lack of flexibility. No not Tuesday just on Saturday. No you can't respond tomorrow. You must respond in two hours. Reporters be ready. We've got a big announcement in one week. It all does lead you down the path of a PR stunt and yet. I don't think that's what's going on here. Why I don't see the incentive? What's the point? Why would the NFL need to put on a PR stunt the NFL for all all intents and purposes had won the Public Relations Battle with Colin Kaepernick at the very least the NFL hadn't lost PR battle with Kapernick? It had gone away. We weren't talking about it. We were talking about Kapernick. We weren't wondering which teams he would fit did on we weren't asking again. Why is he not in the league? I understand that in some circles in some areas that conversation is still front and center. I'm not speaking to the relevance or the importance of the question. I'm talking about the spotlight of the question. Colin Kaepernick was not front and center. Sooner so why would the. NFL put on a public relations. Stunt to drag Colin Kaepernick's employment back to center stage. What would be the point point? What would be the win beyond the position they were already? Why would the NFL need a PR stunt when it comes to Colin Kaepernick no? I don't think that's what's going on here because I don't see a win for the NFL beyond what they've already one but there are two other reasons to other potential reasons why the NFL is putting on this workout this weekend number two it is that this is simply a requirement this the NFL has to do this was part of the settlement grievance. This was part of something much bigger. Max Kellerman began to allude to something like this on. I take this morning. Listen my suspicion is that there is some huge for something like this to happen for the NFL to leak it to the national press a day ahead of time. That's not the way. Normally this stuff goes down. There must be some enormous piece of Business Nisa behind all of this and maybe the CBA coming right up right. It's looming some enormous piece of business media lawsuit that they're afraid love but it has the smell to me of legal bought covering by the NFL. I have to admit that is a realistic possibility. What that means is this? Let's consider a couple of potential scenarios least likely a big corporate sponsor like say Nike or a big corporate sponsor like I don't know somebody that donates or invest asked hundreds of millions of dollars into the NFL's business somebody who's Business Vfl Somehow so oh important to the league and yet so fluid with that business. They're willing to say we're willing to continue this as long as you put Catholic back on the field. Could that motivate the NFL into putting some workout. Like this on. I think so. Is that something you would expect from Corporate America I think not the NFL's big business the NFL is the the success. It's a ratings bonanza. I've talked about this on the wheel. CAIN show on numerous occasions if you look at the top one hundred television shows from two thousand eighteen eighty some Ahmad number of them are live sporting events and of those live sporting events sixty five or so were. NFL Games an average NFL Thursday. Night game Outright Games from the NBA's Conference Finals Outrage Games in baseball outside of everything from the world series the NFL is an advertising. Bonanza for Corporate America. Do you really think they would all of a sudden grow some kind of conscious. It's some kind of integrity. Some kind of position that got in the way of their business. No I don't find that likely I think what's more likely is that it was as a condition of the settlement the call and capture nick reached with the NFL. You know the settlement never did get quite as much attention as the grievance did the solution not as much as the controversy we talked about the settlement. You talked about it here. On the Steve Smith Show we talked about it on the will. CAIN show we talked about terms. Who got the win? WHO got the loss? How much money to capture nick? We don't know any of it because it was all under the guise of confidentiality agreement. And therefore we would not know if there was a condition the settlement that said as long as you put on a realistic reasonable chance for cabinet Catholic to return to the League. Could a last minute check the box. Formality of many pro day a workout satisfy satisfy the legal requirements of the NFL in a settlement. I think is a realistic possibility. So Oh I think that's potentially part of the settlement but I don't think it's a PR stunned and yet there's one more thing one more reason that hangs out there. That might even be more likely but first let me go. Go to Cameron in South Dakota. What's up cameron you on the Stephen a Smith show with will cain talking about why the NFL is putting on this workout for Colin Kaepernick? Their Iverson thing that yeah it might be a pr Sun but some of the Just seeing them I possibly come out to watch him. Might see something in it and possibly bring him onto the team not even poorer starting role but even just for a backup role just because of what they've seen in the past that he can do our favorite first of all. Turn you on your radio so that you can clearly hear me an answer. The question I'm about to ask you if it is a PR stunt. Even one in your estimation can end end up in a happy accident or fortuitous outcome for capital that some team will sign him from what was so cynical of a PR stunt why why would the NFL put on a PR. Stunned what they stand to gain. Just you know maybe they get back into the good graces of the people I mean. Obviously we like you said there's really no clear indefinite reason for them to do that but there's always always something good about news you know they say Aw Bad news or no news is bad news any news so I feel like I'm bringing things might autism show that they're willing to work out the problems that they had in the past. Yeah Cameron I appreciate the call. I don't think that it's likely this is a PR. Stunned you're right. It is as Cliche as a maximum that many say that all news is good news but I think the NFL's experience with the social justice protests kneeling before the American flag and with Colin Kaepernick Rapper. Nick would work against that notion I only the. NFL looks back on that experience. The ratings in two thousand sixteen and says I would like a repeat of that just to stay in the spotlight. I like a repeat of that new cycle just to keep people talking the. NFL's got plenty of people talking about whether Lamar Jackson. Russell Wilson is the MVP of the season in the NFL has plenty of people talking about whether or not Jason Garrett is going to be the coach of the Dallas cowboys beyond this season. They don't need people talking about Colin Kaepernick's employment to win. I see no win in the PR stunt one more maximum. I think might actually be more helpful in this particular question and that is you can never satisfy five one hundred percent of the people. I can't trust me. Not One hundred percent of people like me but one hundred ten people don't dislike me either. Same holds true for Stephen Smith. Do you think he has one hundred percent approval rating. Do you think he has one hundred percent disapproval rating. You cannot get one hundred percent approval rating if the NFL. We're putting this on to try to win over the people who've been lodged in their disapproval camp for the last three to four years the NFL be run by the biggest bunch of boobs in professional national sports. Not only because their goal intention of trying to get one hundred percent approval rating would be moronic but because they would have have to cross the bridge of knowing. We're never going to win that group over. They've been hating us for four years and one workout on a Saturday isn't going to solve all that Levi Texas on the Stephen Smith Show with will cain I will So I don't think the PR son at all and possibly very okay been an agreement on settlement But I think that with all the injuries around the league and the poor quarterback rating is going around and I think he's a possibility to be on a practice squad and maybe make his way onto into a backup role or maybe a third string and who knows beginning next year he might just possibly be a starter if he's as good as he says he's still is being with the forty niners. He did have a good arm. Some good legs. But you know the controversy over Neilan for the flag and all that I think he's if he did stay unhealthy. Archie says and tweet cheated. He might be a good quarterback to Don't check out this weekend all right. Thanks for the call Levi and that brings us to reason number number three that the NFL would put on this workout. I don't believe number one that it is a PR stunt. I believe number two that it's potentially a term of the Grievance Grievance Settlement Colin Kaepernick in the. NFL came together on. But I think number three is the most interesting and perhaps perhaps the most likely and that is that the NFL is legitimately interested in Colin Kaepernick. That there are teams out there who legitimately Might WanNa Sign Colin Kaepernick but there are teams out there who just need a little bit of cover to make sure if this workout goes south. They're not the one with the target on their backs. Here is Stephen a Smith on. I hate laying out this third possibility. I've been told that collar cap nick. He'd have to throw a ball into the stands and play like complete garbage or run his mouth incessantly whether the via instagram twitter or whatever really really speaking out being vigilant being rebellious or whatever the case may be in order for him not to have a job in the NFL within the next week or two could NFL teams have a legitimate interest in Colin Colin Kaepernick. The idea is they just need some cover. If you bring him in privately if you bring him in the organization like say the Seattle Seahawks did with the Baltimore Ravens are considering in the workout goes poorly or more importantly the interview with Colin Kaepernick goes poorly. You don't WanNa be in the spotlight. You don't WanNa be talked about on. I take you don't want everybody saying here. We go again. Here's another team. That passed asked on Colin Kaepernick. But if you might be interested in him and you want avoid that outcome you need the NFL to put together a mini pro day. Bring together a dozen teams twenty teams all of whom are considering the possibility of employment. So that if it goes south if the interviews go poorly nobody stands alone. Nobody takes the slings narrow. Where's the bull's eyes on their back back by themselves? The idea is it's cover for one two or three potential teams that have legitimate interest in Colin Kaepernick. And that leads us to the second question. Who who could ever legitimate interest in Colin Kaepernick take? Give me a call. Join the conversation. Eight seventy nine three seven seven six straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless everything for less only at Walmart. I think there are a couple of things a couple of requirements a couple of criteria that any team. It's interesting Colin Kaepernick would need to check. I think they would need to be in the win now mode a team that has legitimate hopes for the season. I think they would need to feel like they're backup. QUARTERBACK is a liability. Their backup quarterback is a problem in Collin. Cabinet could improve that situation. I think they would need to have a system. They're currently running. That looks a little bit like the systems or the style of play the Colin Kaepernick Ran. And I think fourth they would need the organization an organization to be strong enough to deal with the PR Circus Arcus that will accompany Colin Kaepernick. Signing when I put those four criteria together I come up with about five teams the check. The boxes axes who could sign Colin Kaepernick. Eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six Stephen a Smith show on ESPN radio with will cain filling in and we all love a night out whether it's seeing our favorite band in person or being there in the crowd to cheer on our favorite team vivid seats is the top source for tickets for all the live events. You WanNa go to to make things and even better vivid seats now has a loyalty program that allows fans to earn credit back. 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A Smith Show podcast riddle me this the College Football playoff committee values good wins over bad losses. That's why Georgia came in last night in the College Football playoff rankings ahead of Alabama. Georges beat Notre Dame in Florida. They have a bad loss against South Carolina but the committee values good wins over bad losses. But if that's the case why is Minnesota Solo Stephen Smith show on. ESPN the PEON. Radio will cain filling in for Stephen. You can normally catch me three to six eastern college football in just a moment. But I've asked you a separate question as well why why is the NFL impromptu last minute scheduled a workout for Colin Kaepernick. This Saturday to get the answer. That question Russian. Let's welcome in a friend that's ESPN football analyst former Texas Longhorn and Philadelphia Eagle. It's Emmanuel Acho on the Shell Pennzoil performance on. What's up Joe? My man my man in what topic new good to hear from it is amazing. It is fascinating because there is no real clear answer menu. I heard people this morning on television on get up on on. I take openly admitting they don't know now I've offered three answers. Three potential reasons. Why workout has been scheduled? I'll tell you I don't buy one one of them. Let me run them by you and hear your answer is number one people are saying it's a PR stunt now a lot of the people that already hated the NFL. WanNa believe that is true Emmanuel. But I don't think it is because I don't see the PR win for the NFL number. Two it could be part of their settlement. It could be part of what was required. When the two parties capital the NFL came to a settlement in his grievance case and number three it could just be cover for a couple of teams who are legit interested in Colin Kaepernick? What what do you think the answer is? I don't think it's cover Four teams that are legit interested in Colin Kaepernick. Because I genuinely think there too many barriers ears for teams to legitimately be interested in Colin Kaepernick. I think it is more a number one meaning a PR stunts and the Final Nail Male embiid Colin Kaepernick coffin the Saga of Colin Kaepernick. Let me elaborate on that for you. My Man If if Colin Kaepernick goes to this tryout how NFL teams can now say. We've Seen Colin Catholic. He's just not back good that completely changes. The Narrative is no longer that Colin Kaepernick is being blackballed the narrative. Now Colin Kaepernick is not that good bear in mind. Will guys like you and myself. We're not going to get the footage of the tryout so we won't get so verify nor deny if the NFL is lying to us. We just have to take them at face value. Furthermore if Colin Kaepernick does sign with the team will well now is he gonNa Neil or is he gonNA stand. I refuse to believe that Colin Kaepernick scorn to sign and be allowed to take me. I just refuse to believe that and owner will down from from upstairs and be like. Hey man you affecting my bottom line so I think we'LL I. It's number one I think it's more of a PR stunt. And I think it's the final nail nail in the coffin of the Colin Kaepernick Saga which is very unfortunate. 'cause anybody with common sense knows he can play in the national. Football League may show here on the Stephen a Smith. Show will O'Kane filling in for Stephen a here's why I don't think it's a PR stunt all right. It's just logic is just incentive. I'm not telling you that I think the NFL has a pure heart. I'm not telling you that the NFL would never do something nefarious. But what I'm telling us the. NFL would not do something to hurt itself. It would not do something that was bad for business manual. I annual a man Emmanuel Kapernick story was virtually dead. Nobody was talking about it. You weren't I weren't there was no reason for the NFL to drag it back to the spotlight dragging back to front and center. What I'm telling you is why put on a PR stunt? There's no wind to be had so will. This is what I I've been on a flight from Austin New York last year and a half hours and I cannot wrap my mind around this for the life of me. I totally and wholeheartedly agree with you. There there was no Colin Kaepernick drama. So why start some but let me say this. And I'll publicly on twitter disagreed with Stephen. A Smith stake. I think the NFL NFL is winning. As long as they convinced people to say what Stephen Said and Steven one on Golic show I believe Golic and Wingo and Fan only Colin Kaepernick can mess this up. Now it's beyond on dollars other stuff. This isn't about capper. Nick Bro. The Colin Kaepernick is not. He's not in the national football league and it has nothing to do with talent. Remember Tames Whitehead linebacker from the Cleveland Browns. Last week he took to twitter and said I will kill you on blood to a fan bro. And he gotta try out with the later two days ago so we would all be fooled to think that this is about tally. So why now go to a workout when we know is not about how. Wow and let me add one last little jam that I don't think the average fan listening to this realize will you know me so you know I was a fringe. NFL Guy. I played four seasons but I was up and down on different rosters. It's just you're not getting signed if the head coach or general manager is not at the try out. Try Out being on Saturday. The head coaches and general managers would probably not be there. I want to different tryouts. I WANNA try out. I WANNA try out will if I looked up and I didn't see head coach of the GM. I already knew off rip. Oh you're not getting fine. I'm out here either as a body or I'm out here so they can be like okay. I chose still in shape but I can tell. I knew back as soon as I looked up and I didn't. If you had coach I tried out for the raiders. Bat for the raiders. Back when del Rio was the coast man. When I didn't show up I was like what this was a waste of time? So please understand understand fans like if the culture GM isn't there nobody's getting fined anyway. Amanullah show here on the Stephen a Smith show with will cain. I know you have to go. I know you're gonNA tight time line. Let me fit one last one. You can keep it short if you need to. If Colin Kaepernick gets a job a manual and if he does submit to the NFL's wishes he doesn't neal he doesn't conduct tuck protests. How will he be viewed will he be viewed as a traitor to his own costs? Odd Man and this is the freaking thing I said on twitter will drop the video in your last night on it. This is a problem. Yes in my opinion he will think about Michael Bennett. Everybody knows Michael Bennett. The last two years stayed in the locker room for the national anthem. misalignment this is the linemen now for the Dallas Cowboys. He got traded from the New England Patriots. Now on the cowboys he stands out there for the answer and if you checked on twitter people have already done it. His uh-huh called him sell out. It's Colin Kaepernick goes to a team and does not meal. I do think there will be ignorant. People will call him out and say that he is in fact to sell all right Emmanuel Manual. Espn Football Stephen Smith show with will cain really appreciate your manual. Thank you. We'll talk I take care. I simply don't think billion dollar businesses make decisions I simply don't think the NFL l.. Who has a history of whooping when it comes to bring it in greenbacks wants to have a PR nightmare on its hands? That's why I don't believe this is a PR stunt. Maybe it's a formality. Maybe it's part of the settlement grievance. Maybe it's real and maybe there are some teams that really want to sign Colin Kaepernick and come up in about twenty minutes here on the Stephen a Smith show. I'm GonNa lay out for you. The five teams that I think would check the boxes of legitimately having an interest in Colin Kaepernick. But I don't think the NFL got to the place it is and it's thirty. The two billionaires got to the place they are by intentionally walking in to an ambush by intentionally putting on a PR stunt stunt with zero WS available to them but mark in Louisiana things. I'm wrong what's up mark. You're on the Stephen Smith show with will cain. Hey well I was just calling because the I mean the point of a PR start is to get people talking about it. And I mean what are we all doing right now. Honestly I feel like if there's teams that need a quarterback. I feel like this team of other. quarterbacks that our second string quarterbacks even third string quarterbacks expert better right now than the day capping it left. NFL because I mean do we remember who he lost his job to yeah mark. Here's the thing though. You're offering the same reason that somebody else calling into. The Stephen Smith show offered up to me earlier. You're offering the idea that any buzz is. Good would buzz. Any talk is good talk. Appreciate the call man. I don't buy that I don't think any. NFL owners sitting around this year's ratings are back up ratings or back to a a good spot while they're sitting around raking in dollars like scrooge mcduck at the table. I don't believe one of the thirty two said you know what really put the icing on this cake. You know what would really get people talking. We should drag that capper nick. Subject back into the middle stage. Anybody got a spotlight. Let's do the capital thing again. That was fun in sixteen. Let's do that. No way did any of them say I want a part do of the Cabinet Saga Right in Florida. What's up your Stephen Smith? Show will cain yeah Well I think the The second reason that you've given his definitely out it was in the settlement. Agreement your lawyer. I practiced twenty years. Language would be a lot more explicit. Wouldn't be vague and so that's out but but I do disagree with you. I think using PR and stunt at the same time assuming that PR means that it has to be a start I think there's there's a scar on the NFL That exists that they're looking to remove and you talk about the dollars and we can simplify how. It doesn't equate quake dollars but it does because the white guy who was raised in around sports still feels That the decision to black blackball this guy from a league admittedly private business last fall this guy from the league with the talent to play in it with a ton of guys with worse scars or worse things that have been have been imposed upon the NFL has been disallowed allowed to play. And they're looking to make up for it and it's a no moose situation and it still translates into books so I don't think it's a PR stunt. I think it's a PR you're good move assuming that the Assumption is that they're making it based on financial four or financial reasons and that is always always always the case 'cause entertainment and its business. I appreciate the call. I don't think they were hurting. They needed it. And as soon when you're talking about the white guy who's grew up around sports and held it against the NFL that they still hadn't brought Colin Kaepernick. And you referring to to yourself. I don't think they're worried about ray. I think they were winning. I think they had money. I'm not passing judgment. You have to understand and I'm not telling you what is moral or immoral. I'm not telling you what was right or wrong. What I'm telling you is the incentive doesn't lead you to a PR stunt now is it because there's legitimate interest if that's the case the next question is who who checks the the boxes of teams? That could have legitimate interest and just need some cover to sign Colin Kaepernick. I've got those teams. Plus how is it Bama is behind Georgia but Minnesota is behind Bama. Do we value big wins or not. All that's coming up on Stephen Smith show on. ESPN radio with Kane. If you miss any my opening segment go check it out on demand and the Steven Naismith podcast. It's brought to you by capital and capital on his reimagining banking often accounts with no fees is your minimums that can be opened in five minutes capital one. 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I'm GONNA lay out those teams that I believe. Check boxes of a team that can be interested in Collin Cabinet. Also tell you why not only do I believe it's not a PR stunt. But as I look at this more and more I also don't believe it's part of illegal settlement again again. That's coming up on the Stephen a Smith show around the top of the hour with will cain filling in. But I have a question for you about the college football playoffs. The College Football playoff rankings. Were unveiled eld. Last night. It was the second week in a row that we got the College Football playoff rankings. They went like this here. Lsu after beating Alabama came at number one Ohio state it came in at number two clemson number three and coming in at number four. The Final College Football playoff spot with the Georgia bulldogs yesterday yesterday. On the will. CAIN show I laid out for you might top six teams in the country and I watered the fourth slot as well to Georgia. I would assume my reasoning is the same as the committee's good wins. Nice win over Notre Dame Nice win over Florida ugly loss against South Carolina. We'd rather see what she did. Not what you failed to do. And that's why Alabama dropped to number five. What are they have? They got a victory over am. which is the story really early for number six Oregon is well? What do you have to brag about ducks a close loss to Auburn? Now this will all sort out by the end. End of the season Georgia's most likely would have to play. LSU In the SEC championship game and that's going to open up one of the spots but my question for you today day is why Minnesota at number eight. Why is Minnesota Behind Alabama? I believe Alabama's better than Minnesota but by the criteria that put the Georgia over Alabama. Shouldn't Minnesota be over Alabama. Minnesota has a win over Penn state atop fourteen and they have approximately molly zero losses. Minnesota Wins Obama by the same criteria. 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Why this candidate for West Virginia governor isn't even the focal point of his own campaign

Cape Up with Jonathan Capehart

31:12 min | 8 months ago

Why this candidate for West Virginia governor isn't even the focal point of his own campaign

"Jonathan Kaye part in. This is Cape Up. Stephen Smith was already running an unconventional campaign for governor of West Virginia. It's opponent fide of the people effort under the banner. West Virginia can't wait the campaign. Its Policy Proposals and budget have been discussed and written by the people. In fact. Smith isn't even the focal point of his own race for governor. Even Corona virus has an upended the campaign Smith says the pandemic has only enhanced their message. But will it work? If Smith who has to win the Democratic nomination in June defeats the incumbent Republican in November Smith. Thinks so hear him explain. Why Right now Stephen Smith thank you very much for coming on the podcast? Thank you so to be here so I've been watching your campaign now for a while since October when we met through our mutual friend justice guests and he wanted me to meet you because he was saying this. Guy Steven he is running a different kind of campaign. And you laid it out to me at that dinner. Talk about the kind of campaign. You're running so our campaign starts with a simple light. Yeah we actually don't think that one governor is the problems we actually believed that never in America district Sunni Non West. Virginia history has a politician in the answer politician League wars years ago or the teachers strike two years ago that we exchanged from the bottom up. So that's how we built our campaign starting Almost three years ago we having conversations with folks all across the state saying what would it look like? What would it take to run a campaign where the ended it just win one office but we won something closer to a people's Government in West Virginia? And that's what we're doing now a a people's government talk more about how this campaign is working because it it's not just hey on Seba Smith running for Governor and you've got volunteers around the state who are running around and getting people to vote for you. It's a little bit more involved in that right. They were to show people that were doing something different. We have to do it with our actions. Not just our word so the first thing I did was build county volunteer teams in all five counts tourist state so in every county. There's a West Virginia can't wait. Volunteer team is not Jefferson County for Stephen Smith Jefferson. County can't wait then. We realized that some people are gonNA come into politics based not from where they live but from their identity as a coal miner or color Muslim are students or social worker so we will thirty nine constituencies teams veterans can't waste seniors can't rate so last piece of the puzzle was New Year more than why can't and five fifteen or twenty people to run the same kind of kept a race that you're so look for people would say no pack money promised Across the picket line promises Behind from a debate never hunch down and again we thought fifteen twenty twenty five people that would be a revolution West Virginia here. We are eighteen months later. There are ninety four of us running together up down and importantly we're running all different kinds of offices and council to Congress and Senate and everything in between we also represent the people of West Virginia in a way that is far different adverse truer than the current I'm ninety four. Candidates are disproportionately black. Disproportionately women disproportionately veterans disproportionately educators. Came directly from the Teachers Strike Movement. Were disproportionately waiting members. The LG Clusky unity and together. We represent something more like what are states. And that's what wrath of these people I mean. You're you're running in. The Democratic Party are all the people who are running in all of these positions. The all these elected hopefully elected physicians. Are they also all democrats from the beginning of this campaign? We've announced strategic read but also morally. We had a duty to build the people's government not just based on the people only go Democrat. Which is a fairly small group of people in West Virginia? We defeat curious about inviting independence. I needed people who voted for the president. Met doesn't mean compromise our values on the contrary. What it means is looking. For the biggest boldest issues that could get and that's what we found in this campaign that on issue after issue there was a democratic position that you could find the state capital a Republicans Find the State Capitol and then it was a bit consensus. Common Sense. Position wasn't being argued by corporate arms of the Democratic or Party. And that's where we find our strength and that's why we broken Joe Mansions Record for the most. Donations ever in governor's race in West Virginia history because you're appealing to literally accountable to a wide range of people from all different parts of the state walks threatening. So you mentioned you mentioned Joe. Manchin the the former governor of current senator from West Virginia. But he's he's endorsed one of your one of your opponents why. Why don't you think he's looking to you as someone to throw his support behind? You'd have to ask him. What we're doing is something. That is quite Democrats weighing in West Virginia. Twenty one we've got energize the base you know to bring you people in and willing to able to attract people. Human process were the only campaign. That's doing it and whether or not we have the support of everyone in the already right now but what we're doing is essential for your name in West Virginia and twenty twenty. And if you look at our state is not really a red state or Lucy. Anti Establishment State Trump beat Hillary West Virginia but Bernie Beats Trump's in West Virginia. And what we really want to really energizes are equal. Is The cross the governing ourselves? That's why that educators straight move miss started in West Virginia people from all different or different races coming together to demand government. That responded to us not to one party or one politician. Were let me bring you back. To the politics of the state From the from the the prism of national politics we've seen over time. The State West Virginia go from being reliably democratic or blue to over time becoming solidly Red Republican. The President One West Virginia by a lot of votes Double digits by far. There's no way Hillary Clinton could have won West Virginia. Why what makes you think that your run assuming you win the primary and you go onto the general election in a state that went so strongly for president trump. Why do you think you can prevail in the race against the sitting governor? Who's a Republican? Because what West Virginians want is to govern ourselves we are not actually a reliably red state A reliably lucy before what we were. People were tired of getting too often by corporate interests in both parties. That will you're offering something fundamentally difference and the fact that I've never run for office before that we are the only campaign race. It doesn't take corporate money only campaign with union staff and the only campaign. The bills is policy platform from listening to the people of West Virginia braces. Be All OCULUS is like fold candidates legalization broadband as a public utility mountaineer. Service or jobs for State Bank of freedom of these kinds of i-instead. Also besides you West Virginia. The main problem Wurley isn't the narrow margins between Democrats and Republicans is the fact that you have half electric saying home because they haven't had real options for either party in a very long. Will you said in in a previous interview? You said that West Virginia didn't become more conservative. West Virginia became less establishment. That's exactly right. We hear it every day on the road tree on a trail and our neighborhood captains but he's a certain way we talk about it in West. Virginia's that people will say I'll vote. The are the person and what they're really saying is I don't trust either party or either establishment and in West. Virginia that's rational that for two years. Democrats and life got worse. Republicans last six years in life got worse because both parties too often they albal set out of state corporation whether it was a coal executives or pharmaceutical companies that flooded are saying over and over and over again. We've been taken for a ride by politicians selling out our work in our in our suffering to out of state corporate interests and we see the biggest ideas based support for our campaign is the fact that we're able to go after we're able to fight these corporate interests in this rampant corruption because we all take their money now. You talked a couple of times now about policy proposals An a people's government talk more fully about how you came about your policy plans. You're running for governor. But you're not the one who's coming up with all the policy prescriptions for what ails the state. And the things that you would do as governor. The traditional way of running for office West Virginia is higher couple political consultants to test you phrases. That have no substance whatsoever and then hide from the people except for TV ads and things like that. Hide your proposals policies. Everything possibly politicians to weeks in word to show that we were doing something different and were to win the different. We knew we wanted clear bold plans and how we paid for so we sent an entire year building or the ground. Up that included. A hundred and ninety seven. In-person tally included additional eight hundred. Plus meetings that I was physically present or with unions and those constituency teams small businesses farmers. You name and all the way we were taking notes people could give feedback online. Our County constituency team hold their own meetings and talk about mobile priorities than we all of those things together a writing team our leaders the other the other draft proposal. Thirty one different alyce lands including some of the ones. I mentioned in education plan of clan to fight racism and discrimination acclaimed to mass incarceration. You it then. We said those plans back outdoor leaders. They help forty seven platform firs our they got to look at the draft and submit will end up being another thousand last comments and personal stories about what they wanted to see that we haven't yet then. Finally Those County constituency captains came together an old fashioned delegates Betcha and they ratify that final plan. I actually didn't get none of the ninety four Scott Final votes in the platform because we wanted and frankly need to be something directly responded to the people of the states that as we travel estate last month's ratifying this no matter what issues people bring up. We haven't answered no matter when they say. Are you pay for it? We have an answer and folks can see that Wilbur offering is something that will actually make people's lives better than that is a radical idea Virginia politics not made people's lives better very long. So you you've now talked about two legs of of this three legged stool as I'd like to just describe it. That is your your campaign the West Virginia Way Campaign. You've got the people who are running for office yourself included but folks down ballot you've got Basically a West Virginia can't wait platform party platform that was put together as you just described by the people in then the third leg of the stool is the budget. That if you were to become governor of West Virginia that as governor you would put together a budget through the through. The West. Virginia can't wait a looking for the right word to use. Is it movement? Is it party organization and so these so all these people? You've just been talking about how they're going to come together and write the budget. We've already done it. He can go look at how we pay for. All of these plans where the money comes from right. Now we start with Bass legend. We show where we shift money or go get new revenue to the tune. You Billion Dollars in West Virginia. Every inch of the task code has been rid of the people who have most a lease Lisa West Virginia. Actually a poor stage should be the richest state the country so as soon as we shifts property taxes in corporate taxes individual taxes and several saxes unjustly remotely fair we have a government that can fund broadband utility a massive best education free college and Preschool Childcare and on and on and on now does that mean just as we broke down magically wave of course. But that's why we build the political structure and take two years to do so governor with that kind of agenda. We get some of those things done. One governor plus dozens of new legislators hus- political infrastructure days actively every receivable. Audi has miners veterans and seniors and students ready to rally for the plans that they rose that we're cooking with grease rate. Now we can actually imagine a government that won't win on everything. No movement has ever been fully successful realized schools but the way we win is not to do with some Democrats have done for too long which is to negotiate against ourselves to pretend to be Republicans moments of the greatest change in American history. Were always ones that leg with boldness ends by bolts racial slurs and not with assertive a conservative desires. Please are opponents. You mentioned minors so let me ask you about them. In the coal industry because of the president runs around and says we're bringing cold back and anyone paying attention knows that that's just not that's just not possible. What do you? What do you use? Well actually what do you hear from coal miners About their industry their jobs and how they view the future we hear is that collider's a turns out are really really smart about the energy economy about the future of that industry that You there's this thing that happens in national politics as much of where West types. Is this Dhamma Foolish? Place that both against its own interests it turns out your human beings just like everywhere else. We're tired gay just like everywhere else and no Leno's will understand. Though a hundred years ago West Virginia Coal Mining in West Virginia was a tougher job. Been arguing any other on. The plane were heard West Virginia in nineteen eighty. You're more likely to die job than A. Us soldier serving overseas in World War. What you also were being paid in real Exists script being and people organized and fought back and turned the worst job on planet? Earth into a respectable middle class upper middle class living union organizing the first union organizer in the coal mines was at Aston Eric during the mineworkers last way immigrant viner's came together to fight for the first. Van Rice organized a Virginia Young Jaw. I say this because there's a long history in West Virginia Lee know that our fights isn't with Coleman's the real freight business colours anti whole the real fighters coal miners versus coal executives and what coal miners West Virginia. What is what everyone wants. They want a future for their kid kids. They want safe land and water anyone of milk crash job not just for the next four years over the next hundred we want our campaign in a local in West Virginia and our minds. Bill of rights are environmental energy was written with the rest intact in coal executives recall operators from coal miners. Who want there to be middle class energy jobs including cleaning green energy jobs for the next hundred years and if we made those same coal executives share their finds use taxes that they're always dodged energy on view worse to the next hundred years beyond. So I'm just going gonNA fast forward and now in a now you're governor. You've come you you you get to the state capital you you. You're governor You might have a few people who are part of the movement who are in the legislature with you You've got your policy proposals. That are there for everyone to see and have been for awhile. You've got the budget that US as is already there. But then you run into the entrenched interests in the state capital. That is used. They're used to winning the fossil fuel industry the the coal executives. You were just talking. About the pharmaceutical industry. The entrenched Democratic Party politicians the entrenched Republican Party. Politicians will probably be really mad that you beat their guy. How how do you go up against? Such incredible forces will be great. Be Great if we had a government of movement that thought the job was to go up against the people who are Robbie from poor and working class people. That's what we need is a and we're tired of government thinks that their job is to play. Nice with the people who are working class. People and poor people in Women Veterans Seniors. We our job is to fight the people who are robbing us. So how how'd we do that? One is that we make a -secutive the executive branch participatory and as representative as we can control that without legislation and for ten weeks of transition. That's what we'll do in salt task payer councils over every agency of government so the Department of Health and human resources the head of that agency policy agency will be decided by foster families. Senior citizens and people with Disabilities Department of Environmental Protection would be led by service owners farmers people who want safe lane and water for their kids and so on so forth. So that when the inauguration you government not just one guy suits. It's hundreds of people taking leadership roles as taxpayers told the executive branch accountable three hundred sixty five days year. Make sure is representative another important piece of the puzzle on Day One is Krisha Corporate Crime Clinical Corruption Division in the state police. We talked to state police officers. In many of them are tired of the were forced to do arresting People Cajun people for being sick or for being poor. They signed up because they wanted to go. After the Real Dad. Suppose Center leading our sate with the people who are getting rich off of arterial bribing. He's right that's what they want to go after and we can do that on day. One we got not just charrette but a stick go laughter. Those people getting rid beginning rich off of our people from time with a massive corporate crime bluecross division stately stat us US leverage the fact that the governor writes the budget at the legislature has to work with that gives us leverage fat as a line item. Veto it's not the strongest possible. But it's still there that gives us leverage in our jobs. Mass lives that leverage with as much as we can and make them fight us on things like a dividend or an education plan that badge teachers make them show their faces when we're trying to do right birthday now. You're running a campaign where you are not the focal point yet. If you do become governor your governor So how what do you do If the movement that set you sit you to the capital to run the state? They want to do one thing but you know as governor. It's not. It's not a thing that that should be done needs to be done or could be done. What do you do then? And he's such a great question of gets to the heart of the matter. What I'm talking about isn't a cool strategy trick political system what. I'm talking about the values that I really all the leadership of our campaign really holes. We really jubilee. That collective movement is smarter and wiser and more accountable than any one individual. So in a case where I disagree with where business at I'm GONNA get outvoted. It's already happened happens. We often joked about eight outvoted Iraq leader where some of our candidates outvoted even in that Policy Platform. Outvoted a few times it. How beautiful right. That's that's the world I want my kid. S The government. I want for my kid. One where he does he grow up speaking. His job is to be the smartest guy smarter than everyone else and should take over and lead from above. I wanted to grow taking the highest thing. He can fire. You is to be a part of something greater than himself something that he is accountable to rather than something he hunt years. So that answers your question. I will do what the people who office want. Not the same I want pre corona virus. You were already running a campaign that as you've been talking about wildly untraditional wildly untraditional in yet. It seems to me that post corona virus. Your campaign is perfectly situated to respond to a pandemic that caught a lot of people by surprise. How did you? How did you change your campaign to respond to pandemic? That made everyone stay at home. This is a perfect illustration of just back. I do anything in fact. It was a really tough moment for me as a lot of eight-year-old eight year. We're trying to figure out in that moment. How are we going to work from home? I was trying to get used to the difference from being on the road for eighteen months. Need cooped up in my house other. The people really stepped forward in that moment. Tried to reimagined. Were are brilliant. All Women Unionized staff our campaign manager Katie Lower County constituency. They rose to that challenge and provided the leadership our movement it in that critical moment. We all together. Here's A. We came first and foremost all of our people were unanimous. You said all right. This is a new reality. We now have two responsibilities not just our first responsibility is to do everything we can to win a people's government. That's more important than that. We have to win these elections but also we now equal responsibility to everything. We can't reduce the suffering of our neighbors and friends and family especially as we see our own government leaders. What did that look like? We put Own Corona virus resource website update daily up before the West Virginia Beers. We got that House Committee back together. Bill Corona virus that in some cases the governor has stolen from as we hoped you would in most cases You continues to be the leading edge of policy in the state we put the how to's videos for folks trying to figure out how to navigate the moment. I go live from my basement at every night not to yell at the screen. I some politicians do but instead to interview frontline workers in nurses and essential workers and faith leaders in small business owners to get a real perspective of what's going on the ground and then most the national attention which is the most beautiful thing I've ever been in in my career. Is Our neighborhood captain over the course of the last two months? We've recruited trained supply built an entire program scratch of three hundred seventy seven neighborhood captains west Virginians who are checking in on their neighbors on a weekly basis thirty said thousand other neighbors a weekly basis. Make sure food medicine. Unemployment benefits information knowledge about having either. Absentee ballots is a genuine corona virus. Response that also serves as a GT operation in margins and thirty seven thousand our teams have gone above and beyond reach another one hundred forty eight thousand voters with at least one contacts a handwritten postcard a phone call. Text message neighbor to neighbor one on one. And the end of this. Everything done when you're out to build long-term power where I get more votes than my primary general. What we're building can't be taken that at. That's the helps you sleep at night. Is that unified? By the worst case. Scenario IS WE HELP PEOPLE GET RESOURCES IN INDIANA? We built a statewide political infrastructure. We turn more voters out than we've seen alongside and you know worst case scenario at least twenty thirty the night before going to be in office. That's the value. That's why I believe so much more reliable than individual. Stephen Smith candidate for governor of the Great State of West Virginia. Thank you very much. For being on the PODCAST. 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Hour 2: Will Cain filling in

"The stephen a smith show podcast is brought to you by the new capital. One safercar earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent at grocery stores and one percent on all other all the purchases. Hey what's in your wallet. This is the stephen smith show podcast. Take picture tom brady and another uniform. Could you picture him outside of new england because i gotta be honest i can and i'm going to give you three teams. The least mull over three teams at least consider if tommy ever leaves new england is stephen a smith show on e._s._p._n. Radio the e._s._p._n. App siriusxm channel eighty e._s._p._n. News will cain filling in for stephen. You can normally catch me three to six eastern all those same television and radio channels coming up in just a moment here on the show. We're gonna grab field field yates e._s._p._n.'s n._f._l. Insider will run through whether or not antonio brown has frostbite who is top wide receiver and running back rankings are going into this season. I'm going to run this by him as well. Could you ever pay your tom brady and a uniform besides the new england patriots reports are that tom brady to sell bunging engine have listed their home in massachusetts for sale at thirty nine point five million dollars. If this home sells the closest abode residents shack they will have would be somewhere in upstate new york three hours away from gillette. Alette brady has a home in new york city. There's also reports that he's looking in greenwich connecticut which for those of you at unfamiliar with the northeast and this quarter that we all live between bristol connecticut and new york city is much closer to new york than it is boston bedroom community of feeder town fancy pants coming into work finance in new york city and also alpine new jersey another fancy pants zip code just outside the city so we're going to live going into the two thousand nineteen football season if he doesn't have a home closer than three hours away to gillette stadium liam. Can you picture him outside new england now. I can't here's the deal tom brady's made a ton of sacrifices sacrifices for the team. We all know he takes below market deals in has once again playing this year at twenty three million dollars but it's a deal really just guarantees his presence in new england for one year but he's also made sacrifices vices throughout his career for his own personal life he said i want to play till forty five years old. He's made extreme choices. When it comes to discipline diet exercise healthcare tom brady has made it clear that while he is willing to do things for the new england patriots he seems to have some individual goals that might extend and beyond their cold blooded interest in him as their franchise quarterback. The longest shortest is when somebody is that dedicated to their craft when somebody is that dedicated katie to killing actuarial tables that dedicated to making sure they themselves they as an individual our peak performer. You're damn right. I can picture him wanting to play beyond his devotion to one uniform one owner or one coach and if i were forced to look outside new england there are three places that i wouldn't lease is considered the least likely has to be the new york giants but what is going on man. He's buying homes all around the tri state area. I mean i. I don't understand greenwich new york city alpine. I mean what's why. Do you need to potentially three homes in this area. It's not close to where you work or play. So what's the attraction to the city. I'm just looking here okay. I'm not saying that because he said his home means he's going to move on from the patriots and i'm certainly not saying that he's looking these other places means. He's gonna play for the giants but also saying not not saying he's not second. Tennessee titans my verbal one time teammate of tom brady's. He's become somewhat of a second home for new england patriots. There's always a wild car when somebody moves on. I'm gonna tell you right now. The tennessee titans would not surprise me with marcus. Mariota on his last year are potentially in tennessee. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see tom brady and tennessee and finally we'll see how hard knocks plays out. We'll see how dare cars future plays apple. Tom brady is from the bay area and jon. Gruden likes veteran quarterbacks oakland raiders. There's three teams that think at least are worthy of consideration. When you talk about tom brady outside of new doing now you need seats to a game download vivid seats app and in a promo code champs at checkout to get ten percent off your first order. Don't buy any seat. Get a vivid seat now. Let me subject all that to the scrutiny rebuttal and derision because i heard a laugh there somewhere in the middle of the new york giants answer was coming from field yates that was clearing emma throat. Well not going to lie to you. Finish up watch like ten minutes ago so had to offer. I sound like a guffaw now. Noga find your thoughts will though i will say this is when you said i have three teams that come to mind for tom. Brady is potential after new england locations. I was like let me see if i can think of one because i spent some time. I'm thinking about this over the past couple of days and so far. I have none like i don't. I don't know that i can necessarily get onboard with any of the three that you suggested. Come on all all three make a ton of sense well at least one of them at least from real estate. I guess my so okay real estate aside. Let's set that one aside okay tennessee and oakland tennessee again so if i'm tom brady and i'm evaluating where i went to potentially finish my career the allure of tennessee like i get it. He has relationship with mike variable and john robinson the titans g._m. Mm-hmm is it strong enough though that you would say to yourself i wanna up route and go somewhere that like my chances of winning a championship on paper decrease right like i think that a vision is far or stronger. The overall roster is weaker like i just don't know that that's like if you know we have seen we've talked about players moving cities that that might offer them benefit to their career in the post life right the obvious one is lebron goes to l. a. because he wants to play for the lakers but he's an entertainment mogul los angeles as the epi center of that for what he wants to accomplish anything now katy going to brooklyn and new york city but for a brady dislike moving to nashville up his profile or sub profile or something like that <hes> <hes> you know he is literally any day now opening up a t._b. Twelve center in the down in downtown boston will that's his roots. That's where his bread. That's where all all of t._b. Twelve has been built up and for oakland like is he gonna wanna go somewhere where they're preparing to move to vegas and the year anyways like i just. I have a hard time envisioning. Tom brady he playing somewhere besides doing it. I understand why people are freaking out about a the way. The contract was constructed and be his house is listed on the market. I don't think that either the one of those things forecast brady is making plans to be somewhere else. Mexican talking to field yates e._s._p._n.'s n._f._l. Insider here stephen smith show will cain filling in for stephen so let me say a couple of things but i'm not suggesting tom brady's gonna pick any of these locations over new england. I'm also not saying that he's going to end up playing for these three but what i am saying is that if there is a situation where tom brady wants to continue to play in the n._f._l. Beyond his connection his commitment his desire and more importantly than any of those words. I just chose his desirability to new england. These are three locations that i would choose see the thing is. I think you just analyze tom brady. Though he was still twenty seven i think he's still analyzed him as thirty two teams all vying for his services and the only the only thing he'd have to ask himself is which one of these places better than new england. That's not the situation. I think that we're in. I think what i m presuming is actually new england walking away from him or insulting him with the next offer than him going yeah. Nashville is better than new england know what i'm talking about. Is tom seeing his n._f._l. Productivity extending further than the patriots. Let's do and that wouldn't surprise me at all field. How many times have the patriots made that calculation how many different players and how many times wondered when they do it to brady so what i'm saying is if the patriots treats make that kind of choice or make that kind of insulting offer to tom down the line then if he wants to keep playing these three places that i would at least i i understand the premise better now the idea that if the patriots decided it was time to move on what teams would make sense right for tom brady in the hypothetical. I can sort of talk myself into some of those teams means you know the giants at this point though will like you know you really gonna like you just drive. The daniel. Jones took a significant amount of scrutiny for doing so yeah and by the way on the giants. I'm being a little facetious. I just can't figure out why it's just a real all these houses around the area greenwich as you said it's a nice place to be at tonight's place to call home from what i understand right but back to the hypothetical teams. It's so hard because right. Now i'm sitting here saying to myself like those are teams that might make sense at the beginning of the twentieth nineteen season but as we know things changed so dramatically from from one year to the next right not that anybody ever thought he was going to become the n._f._l.'s m._v._p. Or something but a year ago the broncos had found their short term answer at quarterback aca semi short-term. I should say with case keenum paying thirty six million dollars. You don't pay someone thirty six million dollars. I think it was like eighteen guaranteed because you have the idea of moving on from them. A year from now things changed dramatically in the n._f._l. Medusa rapid fashion <hes> but i still think like i if i had to simulate what happens with tom brady one hundred times going into the year twenty twenty <hes> i still think like the vast overwhelming dominant majority come back to tom. Brady playing out another one year contract that has been reworked the the patriots for the two thousand twenty. I agree with that. I one hundred percent agree if you simulated at one hundred times as a new england patriot but also like the point you made about things changed drastically in one year and one last point on this debate that we're having when i've had the conversation about eli manning's career extending beyond his relationship with the new york giants something that people have much less less trouble envisioning one of the places they mentioned is the new orleans saints because of what you just said you what changes in one year in the n._f._l. Fell can be so drastic and unpredictable and what does drew brees do year in year out does he keep coming back to retire is he. Somebody a veteran quarterback that could step in dan in new orleans and if that's the case with the same calculation for tom brady as well man well. I gotta tell you like i i. I don't see it on eli or brady to new orleans. I think if on new orleans isn't the option. If you don't have drew brees next year in house isn't a teddy bridgewater. I don't know who you really don't know the answer to that gave him a you re signed him on a one year. I believe that's worth base valued like seven point two five million bucks for teddy bridgewater with the chance to like if something happened to drew brees and he played really well get up to a much more significant number but do you feel really confident that teddy bridgewater is the apparent to drew brees new orleans. I don't feel really confident. I just would say that like i would think two years or almost two full years in new orleans of like getting acquainted with the system would make the saints feel more confidence in him than you know whatever they could potentially see an ally manning who if he's available at at the end of the season probably means it in play well enough to stave off a rookie quarterback or at e._s._p._n. N._f._l. insider field yates stephen smith show with will. Can i want to talk about this door with feel because it's it's changing by the hour apparently antonio brown's had foot problems for quite some time now and he's really i think made feel you can create me if i'm wrong but one practice one one training camp practice for the oakland raiders and he posted a picture of the bottom of his feet on social media and it's nasty it's nasty. It's a lot of peeling skin cracked feet but not just like you know needs some lotion like there's some serious medical issues and people have wondered is it trench foot which is too much moisture on your your feet over a long period of time but now there seems to be some suggestions nano. It's frostbite is that right field that is that is yes. That is what e._s._p._n. Has confirmed room that it's frostbite on his feet that basically took place when he went into one of these basically like freezing cold chambers that you use it's a eh muscle recovery thing and he was in france and sounds like he forgot to put on what you need to put on to sustain these legitimately like subzero temperatures. The picture you mentioned will is nasty navy as a zeh heavy share on social media as it is so not entirely surprised that we got a glimpse of this nasty feet <hes> but you know it's it's it was described to me when he was put on the non football injury list minor very minor matter of fact and i know that it may feel l. less or more than very minor given that we're now as you mentioned some eight practices into training camp and because they've got cameras everywhere because everything will be under the microscope when you're on hard knocks but antonio brown i still get the sense it's minor and that's you know a week from now or two weeks from now. If he's back there on the practice field it will be more of like a funny story then it will be a major headline talking to field yates stephen smith show as well kim. I want to run through a couple of things with field. He is of course one of our fantasy football all experts as well and i wanna talk about his expectations going into the season but first. Let's talk about field your expectations going into this preseason. We're starting here tomorrow tomorrow night. One of the games is the los angeles chargers against the arizona cardinals and i know this game features one of your most interesting players going into two thousand nineteen eighteen yeah. It's gotta be calamari. I mean i think he i'm not trying to be so simplistic that you take the number one pick in the draft and say that's the most surprising or most notable player going into the year well l. but think about what precedent he has to set. I mean drafted in number one overall and there had been. I think it was like six thousand nine hundred sixty two who was the last time a quarterback of his stature was drafted in the first round but never number one overall so obviously there's intrigue in terms of in busting the physical mold policies one of the most dynamic college football players we have seen in some time he into shawn watson are the only players to ever throw for four thousand yards and rushed for thousand yards and the division one level in the history of the sport short. He has a chance to be everything that arizona has been desperate for since carson palmer sort of fell off where he was at the apex of his cardinals tenure. <hes> steve kind the g._m. Of the cardinals had some mrs in the drafts as all gm's do but you know nor- normally when you draft a quarterback tenth overall one year he gets traded. It means <music> our reflection of the g._m. Usually could be job costing if steve nailed it on collar murray not only will be lauded for the pick but it could totally change change the in the sort of the outlook for the n._f._c. west division. That paper has three two really good teams and potentially a very good one in the forty niners column collar merge. Me is the most intriguing player by far in the n._f._l. This preseason i want to save a couple of moments. Get fields top picks in fantasy statistical production from the skill position in the n._f._l. But first first one more question on collar murray hey. How different do you think arizona's offense is gonna look and when i say different not from who they were a year ago but from the n._f._l. As it is like what a cliff kingsbury cholera holler murray gonna do that is revolutionary. Is it gonna be something that blows. Our minds are going to be something that looks like college or is it going to kind of adhere to pro style pro expectations. It's going to be that different. You know what i would say well is that it may not be revolution that we haven't seen stuff before but it may be w we haven't seen as much of in a while a lot of ten personnel one back and four wide receivers on the field with no tight ends which certainly has existed in all levels of football for quite some time. We see much more in college so to your point yes. It has a chance to look much more like oklahoma's offense than i did than does the twenty eighteen cardinals offense which which was miserable and barely watchable and actually not watchable in most weeks but i think you've got a team that clearly has an emphasis on athletic ability and playmakers and space in that regard. I think that they the the foundation of the team has been laid. I have question marks about the offensive line but if collar hits it's going to be able to on this mask so much of what did not work for the offensive line last year and while it might have four receivers on the field what i've read reports are it's going to be very are we running back dependent very run heavy very david got a chance to be a fantasy superstar so there we go. I've got like less than a minute left with your so. Let's just do those three positions a running back. Everybody has saquon their top performer this year so after saquon who you have zeke and then and then what if zeke shows up it zeke alvin kamara in christian mccaffrey you could entertain those guys however you like those are the four best players have fantasy okay and your most interesting your top wide receiver this year <hes> davante adams three years of ten or more receiving touchdowns fall by deandre henry hopkins excellent adams number one above jones in hopkins and brown real last year until the last week yeah. He's awesome are in finally quarterback besides patrick moans. I'll go to shawn watson but there is such good depth that you can make a case for andrew. Mcafee is healthy but the shawn watson to me feels like the next man up all right really good stuff e._s._p._n.'s n._f._l. Oh insider field yates here on the stephen. Michaud will cain. Thanks field. Thanks bud all right so this contract dispute between the dallas cowboys ezekiel elliott and the the los angeles chargers and melvin gordon showing something that i've talked about for quite some time what we're seeing play out in real time is a market correction at the running back position. I laugh where you're coming up here on the stephen a smith show with will cain. You're hiring. You don't wanna waste tom through dozens of irrelevant resumes. You want an official way to get a shortlist court list of qualified candidates. That's why you need indeed dot com post a job in minutes set up screener questions based on your job requirements then zero in on qualified candidates using intuitive intuitive online dashboard discover why three million businesses use indeed for hiring post job today at indeed dot com slash higher search for greatness search for indeed mamas mamas. 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You'll not even more vigorously because he knows you should switch because yes switching to geico is a no brainer usually publicity easy. You can get whiplash. You'll seem to the stephen a smith show podcast an eight million dollar raise and still underpaid. You think you're all about winning and then you learn who tom brady is. There's all about winning and then there's tom brady levels of all about winning stephen a smith show on e._s._p._n. Radio will cain filling going in for stephen a. It's brought to you by the new shell v power nitro plus premium gasoline now with four levels defense against gunk where corrosion and friction. Let's hit up the shell pennzoil performance on the dude from fort bragg. What's up dude works on will how you doing. I'm good i know i know you miss me when you're on vacation because i give you all the clinton news but i'm gonna tell you where tom brady is gonna go when he retires okay. He's he's going home. We'll because he knows ki. L. is coming into the league these next two years and then he's gonna say the the paul is coming will so so we say is going home dude. You're saying he's gonna retire. Oh he's going home. He he sees what me and and you see. Trevor lawrence is coming. You don't want no part of that will so tom brady has he's on notice. Essentially is what you're saying. He's got two years and then it's off oft the rocking chair. 'cause it's trevor lawrence time. Oh definitely real. We're just to lawyers here talking shop but yes he knows trevor is taking taking over. I know will your lawyer. I was i was much. You call it a barracks lawyer wheel when i was in the army l. right. That's where you helped. What you remediated disputes between your fellow soldiers you were the the the peacemaker arbiter the mediator. You're the guy they went to <hes>. Well we can go. We can say that we we can say that i'm all things clemson will and i don't think so no i don't think so did he's coming tom. I think you're all things trevor lawrence i don't. I don't even know if your your your phantom goes beyond the specificity of t. l. I don't even know if i'd expanded the tigers. I just know that you are the number one trevor lawrence fan i've ever met number one dude and has we'll. That's my yeah that's right. If i can only get the level of phantom that you've given trevor lawrence. We're going to the moon baby skyrocket skyrocket dude. Thanks for the call. Let's go to well more or let's go to <hes> jimmy. What's up jimmy and maryland. You're on the stephen. Smith show will cain. Hey how you doing nice talk to you will thank you man what's up. I want to talk about the old tom brady. I just don't see him playing anywhere except for the patriots i think that the level of respect that he had for new england and i new england what has for him. I know that there's been low balled contracts and the patriots in the past but i just can't see it happening. Look man jimmy. I'm with you like we're playing probability's oldies and just had field yates e._s._p._n. N._f._l. Insider here on the steve smith show with will cain on. He said if you ran the simulation one hundred times if you roll the dice flip the coin a hundred hundred times ninety eight ninety seven ninety six times it's gonna come up with. Tom brady's new england patriots but my point is you need to at least consider those two who were three and the truth matter is probably more than a two or three or four percentage point chance because it's the new england patriots we're talking about. It's a team that's walked away from <unk> over aged quarterbacks a rather overage players over and over again from lawyer malloy to richard seymour to tie law aw to troy smith to wes welker and on and on the new england patriots say goodbye before you can say goodbye to them. You can't break up with them because they broke up with you. You don't get to have upper hand on the patriots. They're always over handing you and and why would it be any different with tom brady. I understand tom. Brady is not in the same categories single player. I just mentioned in fact. Tom brady's not in the same in categories into the other thirty one quarterbacks who are playing the game in fact. Tom brady's none same category as every quarterback who's ever played the game. He's the greatest of all time but still patriots as cold-blooded is against still the patriots who over and over have made the harsh decision. It's still the patriots rates and still tom brady already over the actuarial trade tables all over already flying over the cliff. I just don't think it's that far out of the realm of possibility to say that tom brady could perceive that his link of usefulness his careers productivity exceeds that of what's new england patriots it and if that's the case we might consider her where he goes to play. There's tom brady and there's everybody else their sacrifice and then there's tom brady sacrifice. There's commitment to winning and then there's tom brady level commitment to winning stephen smith show on e._s._p._n. Radio will cain filling in for stephanie just got back yesterday. In fact from vacation spent the last week and a half in hawaii and it was awesome loa but i was hanging out with my family and i see this guy walk up to me tall guy and he's like will and as he walks over kind of recognize him introduces himself and i don't think he mind me sharing the fact that it was the new phoenix suns head coach monty williams and monty williams and i talked for some time in his one of my favorite conversations conversations that i've had well with anybody we went to breakfast had some coffee. We talked about what it meant to win. Monty williams one at the highest levels. He's made incredible amounts of money money. Monty williams has made sacrifices monty has achieved and he was talking to me and he was talking to me about what it means to achieve what means to win and he was telling me in the end. It's all meaningless unless it comes with relationships. It's all meaningless. It's not it's not ought purposeful unless it comes with relationships he talked about rings and championships and all that matters but it has to come with something deeper something more and in basketball and his experience when those with the spurs or others it was the idea of five eleven eleven men coming together to achieve something some common goals higher purpose and the relationships that are formed and along the way once. You got there that get there without that. It doesn't quite have the same weight. It's not quite as fulfilling it has to be both espy championships chips and relationships. May i think a lot of monty williams man well. I'll be rooting for him and the phoenix suns to do something this year but i don't know that that's how now the patriots see it. I know this that players who played for belichick have a deeper connection to him than you would ever expect beck a deeper relationship since of his personality but i also know they're capable of putting all that on the back burner and making the right business decision decision what are not as meaningful to the individuals. I can't tell you but i can tell you this. They rack up the hardware year after year. Let's go to will in virginia. What's will you're on the stephen a smith show with will cain outpa- there there is one legitimate rumor about radio inside the n._f._l. Circles that is you you know if you think about it has a little genesee but it's just a theory but him and our from san mateo area northern california the talk are they want to go home and trade back garoppolo for brady. That's going to fold a forty niners. That's kind of a legitimate thing. I've heard in the circle her coach for twenty years coach with elements college coach who recruited me from ca- can stay all right and that's the you go but i'll give you one more thought all this receiver stuff. I've been wanting to get you will never win big with receiver who goes by its initials. Do your homework does the only one that got show super bowl. Wait wait wait. Wait wills long as you're handing out the the secret codes to to the n._f._l. Players futures in how you went we talk about. I just wanna make sure i got her. I you mean like a._b. Like like antonio brown as long as he goes by. That's a problem cody be any of them if they go by an initial not gonna win. Big okay from those guys need to think about that here so the browns are in trouble. The raiders are in trouble who else goes by their initials. Julio doesn't and the andre hopkins doesn't but bad news for browns and raiders fans. Thanks for the call will speaking of that. Let's talking to field field yates little bit earlier here on the stephen. A smith show with can't about antonio brown's feet reportedly has frostbite he got into a what do you call it. Is it cry cry auto therapy cryotherapy chamber. It's one of those once they get in and freeze it down to really cold temperatures but it's short periods of time really man i read this book called kingdom of ice a few months ago about these arctic explorers the we're trying to be the first to get to the north pole and they sailed up through through the bering straits then up above russia until their ship is impacted and then they try to hike wants the strands to try to hike back down russian and they all died not donald but most of them data frostbite and it's nasty but it takes time it takes time skin dies turns black and but it happens again it happens on your fingertips in exposed areas your toes your nose bottom of your feet in a cryotherapy the chamber i dunno this. It's fishy right so he's in a cryotherapy chamber for all about what that goes like sixty seconds to three minutes. Maybe it's super cold. I get that but of all the places on your body that you're gonna get frostbite the soles of your feet up against the floor of the cryotherapy chamber. That's that's where you're most. I mean i can point out some other areas that if there's a freezing blast of air some other exposed extremities that are mm point in an exposed that i would be more concerned about the frostbite things a little in so fast in such a short amount any time. I don't know that i got some troubles on my flight home. Did you ever get talks. Wollen feed on your twelve hours coming back from vacation turned into like is this. Maybe it's uncomfortable to if feet swell on a plane that is like the hulk you know he grows think you skins all of a sudden tight then feel right really more like a grandma. Swollen feet not not like not like bruce banner. It's not right john and new york what's up john. You're on the stephen. A smith show is will cain. Hey how you doing. I'm now. I wanted to talk aside malady n._c._a._a. The n._c._a._a. ruling <hes> you know the power conferences are not going to be hurt by so but but who does get i heard is the smaller division one programs and all the other sports. You know they're not going to be the division. One fool is gonna be cut down tremendously and all you're going to have is the power conferences individual one. I don't know what they're gonna. Call it. They're gonna move to division three conferences like patriot league and things like that. They're not going to be able to afford to one john john. I'm totally lost on how the new supposed rich paul rule makes it harder for smaller schools and smaller conferences how how does that. How does it advantageous to division one power five schools in any way well <hes>. It's because anytime you win <hes> you get a point which which is quite some money from the pool of n._c._a. Money so the conferences that don't win and don't have a major sport play in division one like the patriot league for example every now and then dan bucknell where somebody else will do well in the n._c._a. Tournament melville earn money <hes> from the n._c._a._a. But it's not it's not on a yearly basis basis. There are program. There are conferences that are below that cutline that will no longer be able to be the one here's tasers. It ain't going go through or not but it certainly absolutely. I don't know i don't know. I don't know how that's connected to this rich paul. Thanks for the call. Here's what the rich paul rule does. It requires that perspective agents that want to deal with college basketball and college basketball right now players who are considering going into the the n._b._a. Draft but not wholly committed to get an n._c. Double a. approved agent and n._c._w. Approved agent will be one that has three years of n._b._a. N._b._a. Players association approval can prove like seven years of address history and a college degree a bachelor's degree. That's the big new barrier that has been placed up that there will be a requirement for a college degree for a player to discuss discuss his draft status with an agent now the players that already are going to go to the n._b._a. Don't give a damn about coming back. They're not going to be affected. You could hire rich paul and be often running but if you are in the gray area of not sure your draft status is going to be you're going to have to get an agent that satisfies these n._c._w._a. Requirements what that does does not in my estimation let somebody else can explain to me more thoroughly protect division one schools from smaller schools. It is not one that protects even the players players from predatory agents predatory family members predatory friends who want to jump in on a bright future which is what the n._c._a._a. Would have you believe but it is one that protects an existing being labor pool just like any license just like any permit just like any barrier to entry whether or not it's to be a lawyer a doctor d'or which is a good place to start with having licensing schooling requirements a barber beautician which is not a good place but they exist licenses are designed designed to protect those that are already through the door from those that wanna come through the door to protect the existing labor base from competition that is what the n._c._a._a. Is truly protecting. They protecting the player no protecting the agents they already like and that they i believe they can work with that. Is what it's doing and that is wrong e._s._p._n. Is presented by progressive insurance. Pick from a range of coverage jobson's with the name your price tool to find a price that works for you. You can't protect people from bad decisions. You can't people protect people from making mistakes. You can only give them the freedom freedom to make their own choices. Stephen smith show with will cain filling it. Guess what you're a middle of stephen a smith show podcast. I miss the show today. Check it on demand in the stephen a smith podcast brought to you by capital one quicksilver card earning unlimited one point five percent cashback on every repurchase everywhere. What's in your wallet will cain filling in for stephen and on that podcast. You'll hear me lay out why i think ezekiel elliott is the most important player to the dallas cowboys but the lowest priority if you're gonna pay god you start with deck and then amari and then ezekiel elliott because elliott has no leverage and she's been a market correction and with the running back position right now apparently the los angeles chargers. You're holding firm at a ten million dollar offer to melvin gordon. That's blow todd gurley lake on bell david johnson and right now ezekiel. Elliott's offer is somewhere around todd girlies level of money money running back market is not up up and away inflationary in the way the quarterback position is the running back market is being corrected did by the value of the position more so than the players themselves again you can get my argument out for you in the first hour of the stephen stephen a smith podcast with will cain today. I've also told you that three teams that i believe if there's a scenario where we can see tom brady plane beyond his new england patriots career what those three potential teams are got attacks during the middle of that segment from our e._s._p._n. N._b._a. insider adrian wootton asking. Is that the nets what was telling asking. The net seemed to be in on everything. I have dave in buffalo on the shell pennzoil performance on what's up dave. You're on the stephen smith. This show will cain. Hey well <hes>. How do you sell move and tom brady to the fan base in new england and secondly when you go to hawaii you you need to do a layover so you don't get the swollen feet. I'll hang up and wait. Don't hang up. You get those dave all yeah. It's gotta move around. I tried that dave and i did that. You know they do the things they say. Do your ankle flexing in lift. Your knees man did it all day and i didn't need a bunch of salt and i exercise size. I mean this is like when you go to the doctor like your cholesterol's high. Eat less sugar and exercise more than i do is genetic doc. I don't even know what happened. I hear you. I was on a plane for thirteen hours and it was brutal. I felt like a snowman. When i got off the plane. Yes you can live. I can feel him swell into. I can feel the skin stretch and i'm like i'm blowing up right now like a thanksgiving day parade balloon dave. I'm like i'm like an old lady right. Now i mean i need some of those socks that you wear and then all that it does is push the swelling up at the top of the sock spill over the sock all right those are support hosiery dave. Thanks for the call. We get some support hosiery mike and cincinnati man. You've been there a long time. What's up. You're on the stephen. A smith show is will cain. Thank you well the first time caller <hes> i think 'cause vicki. L. is overrated. You know you're bringing up the four hundred yards but i don't think he was good at very personas when he played and he where you love hating or they got two thousand yards and fourteen games and the lines that he had run about the run behind. I was clear get it. Get some type of your so agree with you. One hundred percent he's getting bad advice and he needs to stay in mexico wherever yet and had behavior all season and you come in and russell stuff that don't work and mike. I appreciate the call. I want to be clear. Though i don't zeke has any leverage he has the ability to hold out over what would be two or three seasons to get the money he he wants. I think he might get raised because he has some leverage. His talent in need need alone gives them some leverage but not the amount that he seems to think he has and that's bad advice and that makes levy on bell. Who's cheering you on not a model but but a cautionary tale a lesson levy on bell cost himself money. Don't need the same but following later on down that path. It's been will cain filling in for stephen a seat among that's that's just a sample of what you'll hear on the stevens with show weekdays at one p._m. Eastern on e._s._p._n. Radio and the e._s._p._n. App.

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Plus tune into night for college basketball action as Virginia battles Virginia Tech present about peleton. Coverage begins at six thirty pm eastern on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. It is my honour improve alleged have my next guest. He's my former colleague at ESPN. He's a former NFL player primarily with the Pittsburgh Steelers. And of course, the Chicago Bill. As well. He's an outstanding NFL analyst incredibly connected to all things National Football League right now, he's associated with something called your call football. I am talking about my buddy, my friend one of the best analyst. I know on the National Football League, the one and only Merle Hodge is on the line with us right now. What's going on big time? How are you man? Steve male. Good, brother. Good hear you. It's good to hear your you to before we get into anything talk to me about this with your call football. What is this about actually our second season, Mike Sherman? If you remember him Green Bay Packer head coach. He and I helped launch a league last year where the difference between the NFL the alliance and even the XFL that starting up we play pro football the difference between our league, and there's you walks their plays you call our place. We gave about almost eighty thousand dollars away last year, we give million dollars away this year. If you call a perfect game, plus seventy thousand plus dollars a lot of ways to win. It's like playing Madden only with live football. The technology is incredible allows fans to really be interactive active with the game the entire game. You know, they call our place every play something different our league. There's no pun. Once you cross the fifty you gotta go for it on fourth down or kicking fill. So. So it's interesting. It's intriguing. It's exciting for the fans because now still that one play that they contemplate and talk about they get to call every place. How did this stuff? Get started. Man, talk to me about this because we have to lose. We had had a discussion about this a couple of years ago talk to me about winning springboard from really young Jewish calling his actually the sole investor and he him and he saw really the technology. They started they there is watching football and played mad, and they're like, wouldn't it be cool to be able to do that life? And so they developed this technology, and what is critical is the streaming aspect of Stephen as you imagine has to be spot on you can't be delayed. And so they've been able to master that you know, we we play three games technically four last year. And it was a massive success will play for this year. I game. We'll start September twenty fifth at eight pm here. Actually, I'm in the Jags Jacksonville Jaguars facility right now where we practice and this is where we'll play. So it kinda. Started from that, really. And you know, they've really developed it and evolved it to where it's become a really exciting thing. It's just far sports go and the gaming industry. Merril Hodge right here with Steven eight years, PIN radio and ESPN news. And when you talk about it in the gaming industry, you know, recently, we heard stuff about you. Remember when the supreme court came down with its ruling, basically spearhead in, you know, not I shouldn't say spearheaded. But basically facilitating the state's getting more involved in the support of gambling. And you know, and when you look at it from that perspective, I guess what I'm asking is, you know, a league like this your call football, and the kind of things that you just described at you're doing how much will that play a role if any at all into how gambling may become even more of a part of sports, I'm talking about legalized gambling from state to state. How will that factor into it? All. Well, you know, I really don't know specifically, you know, here's where I think technology could be implemented say from from the NFL perspective is put it into the Pro Bowl. You know, giving them access using that technology where the fans actually call the play. You know are seriously involved in the right in the process of playing spring games in college football, and actually technology can be applicable to actually every sport. It's not just football. So you know, that's kind of I think the limit ride. You know, there's no it's never actually when I presented to me. I thought they were gonna they're talking about NFL plays being called them. All that ain't never happened until right there that ain't never happened. Once I understood it, then I got my gra- my head gra- wrapped around it. It was just it's it's been a fascinating experience. One of the most exciting things I've done in sports, you know, as as we look back and allow me to transition into the season that just expired with the patriots win the Super Bowl over the Los Angeles Rams just a couple of weeks ago as you reflect on this past NFL season. What did you peel away from it? What I mean, there's a lot of things to do. I mean, I'm thinking about the quality of play. I'm thinking about you know, the safety measures you, and I've had discussions in the past about the conversion issue, and how that's resonated with the National Football League, Colin capital in his case just got settled against the National Football League. There's so many different directions in which to go. When you're talking about the National Football League as a person that played in it that has talked about it extensively over the last several years on an elite level. How are you feeling about the NF? NFL game in this day and age, you don't fun. I got a lot of coaches, John Jackson teammate of mind. He's one of my coaches Solomon Wilcox is the other head coach ratio woman, Kurt Schottenheimer Duffner. These kind of names or they've been coaches in the NFL players in the NFL. And you know, we're talking about what just when when we played versus where it exists today. And there's a bunch of ways you can look at it from a player perspective and elite perspective. I don't think that players that are playing today if they don't walk away from the game really prepared for life's work. Absolutely shame on them. There is so many reset sources so much opportunity for players to be successful outside of the game. That I say felt to do it that's on nine. I know that's somewhat just player specific when you look at what the league's doing in outreach. Circumstance and all communities. They're evolving and growing their their member hind the eight balls far as the concussion thing back in the nineties. They're the pioneers in front runners now and not they don't get credit for that the way they've went about cleaning up the game. And I've been a part of that process make the game better and safer than it's ever been. You know, and and that leads to you know, a lot of things that are on the corrupt level. You know, things that have happened that are, and I think over time people are going to start getting exposed for them. The message in the narrative when you think about head trauma. The message you get from for CT when you hear that has pretty much driven out of Boston University. The maybe one of the most corrupt the C T center, they run those corrupted departments I've ever seen really university. Gosh. Wow. My gosh. If you look at their if you look at how grotesquely they had the Beuys. Science without finishing the steps of science yet created a narrative and messaging without doing that the steps of science that are required from sub concussions. Not even scientific them. You've done the steps there. There's no such evidence of concussions causing CT T E's never killed anybody. See if he's never caused somebody commit suicide all the narrative is been driven out of their newly started getting exposed. Now. You know, because here's what they can't do. They can't prove what they're saying. All the things I just said I can prove novel. I kind of prove scientifically what I've just said I can prove it physically. Remember, how what would you say to folks that would debunk what you just said? And they'll say look at the changes that the NFL has made look at the focus that they have placed on safe meaning the league or trying to do what they can alleviate some of those concussion concerns that people have had they were talk about c t in the studies have been done by by Boston University, or whoever it was they were talking about all of these different things, and they'll say excuse me, the evidence that was brought to us has basically incited and provoked us to really really take this and treat this with the seriousness that is exerted it deserves which is what has openly led to the implementation of new rules that you yourself have agreed has made the game significantly safer than it wants was what do you say that you'd be good grotesque down informed because in nineteen Ninety-one. The Pittsburgh Steelers started cognitive testing was Boston University doing then C T center wasn't. Even round different categories there. Even when you look at protocols and treatments and therapies that's a completely different subject. Then the pattern CT, which that's all that is pattern in an observation state. Nobody knows what causes it, and nobody knows what it causes. There's people who have the Patterson not never played sports never had a history of head trauma. And I bet you you've never heard that. And most people don't know that. And clearly Boston University doesn't want you to know that because then it gets -sposed for how corrupt they really are. Now when you look at that everybody blend blended together, it doesn't belong together. When you look at protocols the Pittsburgh Steelers were doing cognitive testing in nineteen Ninety-one. How do I know that as part of that group? It was voluntary. It wasn't mandatory. But keep mine the brain world didn't come up with that. Chuck knoll came up with that Chuck knoll challenges Jorma rose. For those that don't know Chuck knoll as the former head coach for the Pittsburgh Steelers who bought away lead them to their first four Super Bowl titles before Bill Kaur one might Tomlin one one. Go ahead, Maryland just wanted to write when knew that was you don't case even because what I think that's important. He was much more than a coach in even a Greek Keach here and a great leader. And he looked outside the scope in really what happened is one of our quarter quarterback Bubby Brister had gotten a concussion. Joe maroon under all just on staff been thinking should play. And really what Chuck did it. He's like Joe you just can't come in here on a Friday and tell me he can't play. You know, we need subject even objective information. So that's really what cognitive testing was really stimulating. So Joe maroon Dr Lama get together and they developed cognitive testing. So in nineteen ninety one it started to evolve, you know, when you think about protocols where we are today. And well, that's what the NFL gets. Gets knelt for they just get nailed for being late to implement it. They they didn't have stuff sitting behind. Nobody else knew about it. Then I can prove out to be wrong. But that would take an entire show to have that discussion. But if anybody goes conspiracy, they knew all this didn't they just felt to react quick enough. Because in nineteen Ninety-one, I'm gonna tell you this. When that happens, you go look at what the history is of head trauma and the brain world, and what they really knew at that time. Nobody was more advanced at that time, and they were just sitting on things. So that being said there's two different areas Stephen protocols treatments all those things have made actually sports better and safer than it's ever been. But we have a fear factor now, especially and I'm more passionate about you sports. I'm not really care. I don't I'm not concerned about the NFL. I'm concerned about youth. Sports, the mom and dad's that are here in this narrative that if their son or daughter have a concussion they're gonna get CT. There's no such evidence of that some can. Cussin' isn't even scientific they yet to even accomplish one step of the science where farmers to make it scientific you. But there's a lot of literature that will talk about supporting defined it's misleading you have science fiction. You have always been very adamant in your position your position for those of you know, you're incredibly consistent with how you feel you. And I've been talking about this year's at you have never waivered one bit from your position. Do you believe Merle Hodge that assuming that what you say is correct and Boston University and others in the stuff that they put out about CT. And and and what have you do are you of the mindset that this is a concerted effort to ruin football in America. Is that your mentality? I I don't think there's any doubt. They're they're tacking youth football because that is the one area that doesn't have they can't fight like the NFL can't fight like the NCAA. They don't have the type of money. It is about that. And it's about money, and they listen. They're gonna finally people are going to start digging. I mean, it's already started the bricks of starting to fall. They're gonna start getting exposed for what they have done what they have said because they can't prove any of their stuff if you look at some of their websites. They have something cussin' cost CT. There is no scientific evidence of that shoots. Even haven't even done the scientific steps to make something cussin'. A thing. That'd be like if you went on a roller coaster jumped on a trampoline. Everybody in the world has done stuff like that. We'd all be doomed. Well, let me get away. Stop. Let me get away from the actual issue of CT and all of that stuff. And instead just focused on football from this premise. There's no doubt that it is a violent sport. There is no there is no doubt that there are Zigic effects from playing the support that can be incredibly, you know, debilitating. I mean, for example, I mean not that this has anything to do with the head. But just watch Earl Campbell who used to play football for the Houston Oilers. He walking around on my God, you see so many guys and the violence that exists in the sport. There are people that have elevated their level of concern as it pertains to that. And is used that as impetus to say football. You know, what it it's not it's so much more damaging than people realize, and maybe we should go away from that. I'm not of that thinking as far as I'm concerned, M E, boxing, all of this stuff that comes with it. You know, what you're signing? Up for. But there are people who say stuff like that. What did you say to those people watch? No, I'm gonna tell you this. I don't know of it. I don't know the history of it. I don't know anybody's. Let's been forced to play it in the NFL. I don't know of it. That'd be that's that is a choice unless he was funny. I had a FedEx driver and just so were balanced here. This happens to the UPS driver that comes to my house almost regularly both on get out start limping and I'm like what happened to you getting out of this truck for ten years. I gotta get a new hip. I'm like, wow. Okay. Well, they better stop letting you get in the truck and getting out there because wear and tear. I mean, there's there's risks. We run with everything. Right. Even a to say that you're not you're gonna live risk free life. There's not risking anything. Sure. There is in fact when we look at where we are in sports today. Those risks we've minimize them and its greatest degree when you look at equipment instruction. Okay. Keep in mind, we've been played football for nearly a hundred years think about this for ninety of it. We never did. Anything about head trauma? Nothing you how many hundreds of millions of people who are living today and well under their sixty seventies eighties even nineties and played in an environment. Where you couldn't even drink water. Keep in mind equipment was paper machine to what we have today. All of those things existed. You listen we have hundreds of millions of people pick from and they can't find meaning Boston University. One person that go because you play contact sports. You have issues later life. There's not one ounce evidence of that we have made sports better and say than they've ever been and parents are being blinded by this false narrative that they're driving, and they're missing what is really should be exciting for them that if their son or daughter we'd have a concussion but treatments that are available now to care for your kids before they returned to the environment of whatever activity on. That's what we need to share with the that's what they need to know this. They knew that they'd be much. More empowered about letting their kids be active and knowing how to take care of if an action that were to happen. I got a strange question for you in light of everything that you're saying, do you think that the NFL may have gone too far in the opposite of the in the opposite direction to be entirely too safe because I run across defensive players all the time in the National Football League that a losing their minds and pulling their hair out of his head because there's so disgusted with how these rules favor off. It's a players. They literally talk if you can't you you can't you can't have bad breath and breathing a quarterback space before getting penalized. That's how pathetic they big. It is what did you say? Well, I'm gonna say this the burden falls on the defender. How never gonna argue that. I listen I've been on the the rules committee and helped with a lot of cleaning up the game. Now, the one thing that's never been put in their Stephen which gets confused. You still can hit the other guys hard as you want. It just hit him in the right zone with the right technique. Now, the part of the start of this year. Yeah. That was a little bit of a debacle in, you know, the changes of hitting the quarterback it took them a while to really get the right? The right parameters in place, you know, and it looked bad earlier. But they got that cleaned up. You know, it took about half the season there. Well, there was some hits. There were just like mind boggling head shakers, but it took the officials a little huge responsibility on them. So, you know, and it's human error is going to be part of all of this. But when you really look at the game hitting the other guy as hard as you can the right way is what they're asking you to do you know that you're going to get out position. But that's easier said than done, Maryland hydroplane football way forever. And then they change it up on you. That's kinda hard, isn't it? Well, I actually know she ain't nobody has ever in the history of football. Nobody has ever run these drills throwing your elbow to the head leading launching with the crown of your helmet, nobody practices. It you. I'm I'm doing I'm running to leave right now. It is one of the greatest professional environments. I've ever seen from tackling perspective. One of our very first games last year. I was like from a professional environ. And we never had one live scrimmage. Our first live event was a game. I'm like he was one of the most incredible professional tackling performances. I've ever seen in profess level professionals are taught how to tackle how to wrap up. Now. What happened way back is the game road elbow starter? Fine leaving launching hitting at the head. But you don't practice those aren't drills that you do. They just like we gotta clean that up. Let's go back to play in the game. Right. I mean, is it a physical is there? A physical part of this. Absolutely. That's what drives most people to it. They love that aspect. That's what I love about it. That's the challenge of the game. But the way it is designed to the cleaning up of it too has made it a much better game. It really all levels. Not just the NFL level Merle Hodge. Appreciate you. As always always great talking to you your call football. That's what you're apart of everybody needs to do everything. They can find out as much about it as we possibly can always good talking to you, buddy. I'll talk to you down the line. Okay. Lug about see buddy. I'm a man the one and only Merle Hodge right here with Steven ESPN radio. ESPN news it at eight say ESPN that's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six. Don't get him started. But to see TS concussions in the National Football League mean. Whoa. I me. I mean, Boston University. He goes off every chance he gets about them. He won't let up he won't let up talking about. They're trying to ruin us football. It's about that about money somewhere. Somehow. It'd be interesting to see those folks in the room together. I'd give them the platform for I hate to go ahead with each other and debate that one one day that would be something special bowl editor they'd say ESPN inundate seven to nine three seven seven six you. Listen live, Stephen ESPN radio. We'll get back to your calls and more some MBA stuff in the minute as well. Anthony Davis, Boston Celtic Tari Ervin. The list goes on and on stick around on touch. The Dow it's Stephen eight ESPN radio ESPN is by the way when you're hiring. You don't wanna waste time. So they do does of a relevant resumes. You want an efficient way to get to a shortlist of qualified candidates. That's. Why you need indeed dot com. Post a job in minutes set of questions based on your job requirements. The zero no qualified candidates using an intuitive online dashboard. 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Given that most would say he Birch really suffered alone. And what I mean by that is I mean, I completely agree with you that the issue Trenton him and that the other players participated and support him, but they only did. So to an extent most people would say that they continue to suit up and play where he was completely blackballed. And if they wanted to make sure that the NFL changed their behaviors or may decision. In the future. That would not have such a social impact in a negative way. Then they should have been more instrumental in demanding those chance first of all I don't I don't know about the players. I said what I wanna know. That's number one number two. I think it's important to point this out. Nobody's saying that he has to do anything. We understand that the person who made the sacrifice was him. We understand that wholeheartedly because again when LeBron James, for example, stating you know, what I stand with my mo-, Colin cabinet. I kneel Colin cabinet, actually, I don't recall any NBA player kneeling what collar Catholic. They locked arms with one another not a single one of them took a knee. So let's keep that Amman. But I think the important point to recognize here is what I'm saying is this Colin cabinet in terms of what would you ask to capitulate to? It's not a matter of whether you do it or don't do it. It's a matter of highlighting what the NFL asked of you in what? In essence, you agree. To not monetarily 'cause your money's your business. But in terms of would you stay for the national anthem. I still gonna Neil are you gonna play in the National Football League. Did you agree never to pursue an NFL career get what exactly is it that you capitulate to? I think that would be something good for people to know. Because I think that that that that would provide closure as it pertains to this particular situation. And it would also have it would also be away upholding the NFL accountable. Correct. You want to know, what did they agree? Exactly. You know? No, no. What did they ask of you? Because it'll tell us a lot. It'll tell us a lot. If you're asking the shut up don't engage in any political views whatsoever. Their you know, social Justice, racial inequality. Don't touch that subject collar cabinet. But if they asked him that right? I'm I want to thank you so much. That's just me. I wanna know Chris you Ular Christopher you lava, Stephen what's up. Hello Steve late show Laura show. Both naked love and save. You do I just wanna Sammy and on jerk happening situation. Now now now it was a lot of people emotionally invested in Colin cabinet. And we don't know like in the I don't wanna use the term folded. But that's that's that's that's that's what I'm getting out of it. Because I mean, a lot of people compare him to Ali Ali was in his prime. I leave at the top is game. And and and and he didn't. And he warned his case. He didn't give me he he didn't know I feel like he just got reimbursed for the time he lost, you know, the very that's a very legitimate argument. That's a very legitimate argument. I can't I can't no one no one in my opinion could summarily dismissed what you just highlight. Got it that my very well be the case. Yes. So and and and you know, he just got reimbursed for his town. And if that's what's happened, Christopher, guess what? It's not a crime. All I'm trying to say is that you spoke out on an issue, and you tacitly, and in some cases directly directly, you know, encouraged people to support you and your calls, and it was the right Cho's wrong with it. Colin cabinet has no villain here. I'm not trying to come across by that in any stretching mentors. I'm just saying that when I heard the news that the man settled his is collusion suit against the National Football League his grievance against the National Football League. I wanted to know what the settlement entail. Not money wants the other stuff the stuff that galvanized the nation of people. Some people would sit up there and say divided a lot of folks, and I'm not saying that was a bad thing 'cause we need to be divided. If you offer racial oppression and social injustice you on the opposite side of me. So I don't mind that division. But I want to know what the settlement entail because I want to know what the NFL asked of this, man. And I want to know what he capitulated to. That's what I want to know we come this fall. I wanted to. That's just where I'm at with it. Appreciate the call. Chris. Thank you, Matt. Let's go to Daniel you lava, Stephen what's up there. I'm sorry. It's Danielle how are you? How are you? Okay. How are you doing? I'm fan of this show. Thank you. And I do have a question in regards to the air read portion of the settlement. Because I I have a question of whether he's going to be kneeling for the anthem. 'cause I don't know. I do know that he saw the three year extension with the Carolina Panthers. And that he has I he has spoken about the specific issue of dealing, but he's made it very very clear that the NFL that social issues are not going anywhere. And this stuff is going to come over the stadium wall and into NFL arenas and stadiums everywhere, this is not going away. Dr Harrier was spoken about it and eloquent fashion as well. So I I don't anticipate that ever agreed is going anywhere. And you have a who's an individual who's considered to be a relatively progressive owner, Mr. tempering in Carolina that doesn't seem hell-bent or dog it. Against Eric Reid's willingness to express himself. So who knows what's going to happen? My thought about Eric read is that if he does not take any anymore is he being a sell out the same way that he accused Malcolm Jenkins being yourself up. Well, I don't know the answer that question, I've always been of the mindset that ever read was a bit excessive and wrong in coming at Malcolm Butler. The Malcolm Jenkins, I'm sorry. The way that he did it was uncalled for it was not necessarily he felt like he had co opted to movement, etc. Etc. You know, I don't view it that way based on the details that I've been told about what transpired during the Goshi ations and things of that nature. And I think the most important thing to point out is this Colin Kapp, Nick, and ultimately Eric Reed and their willingness to take a knee was against society social injustice, racial inequality in this nation. They weren't talking about the NFL they will working for the NFL, and they will use an NFL platform that they had available to them to make a case about things that AOL dot society. But there I wasn't directed at the National Football League. So it's perfectly within the National Football League's right. In my estimation to stand up and say, well, wait a minute. If you don't have a problem with us there, why are you causing us problems because by doing this you're assisting and turning millions upon millions of people against us as if we're the ones that are causing these problems. And I think that's something. That's relevant. Can't be ignored. All right. Thank you for taking my call. Even thank you so much. Let's go to Chris you live, Stephen. They were. So chris. Hey big fan. Thank you, go. Hey, I haven't heard anybody talking about Westbrook today. Man. He was terrible from the three point line. What was he doing? So what who cares? It was an all slugging. Whatever it was an exhibition. It was a meaningless exhibition game. Why would you have why would you call up here to complain about that the man's got like ten or eleven straight triple doubles, Oklahoma City has come up the rare and the be all your ably? The most formidable opposition to the Golden State Warriors, and you will call up here and be on hold and in eight even complain about Russell Westbrook during the regular season is to complain about. Russell Russell Westbrook's shooting during an exhibition all star game. That's all you got. Yeah. I guess. So having a nice day, man. Go ahead. Go ahead. He knows that was ridiculous. He knows. That was ridiculous Jake. You'll Stephen what's up. All right. What's going on with the Jake from Seattle? So the the issue I have is not what you it's with. It's with you rhetoric right now, you know, in two thousand twelve hundred Portland I'd say this because there are people all over the country listening. There was a young man named sergeant Brendan hockey. You still happen to be my brother? He was killed in action. Drove over a roadside. I e d it was it was a man that had a whole future ahead of him. And there's people who on every Sunday ended up have to be football could be you just talked about the NBA again. It could be the Mariners. We stick together we stand up, and and we put all of our division of hold. And he just said that you told us the country we should be divided cells to do Colin Kaepernick taking a knee during the national anthem. And I haven't had. Sorry, sir. First of all that was your brother that passed away. I'll be kept you. I listen to listen to me listening was that your brother that you said that passed away it. Absolutely, okay. Young man. What I what I wanted to say is that my condolences to you and your family for your loss. That's the first thing Maha goes. Ain't you or your family? What I did say just to quote me accurately, I said if you are for racial injustice and social inequality you are divided against me. We are not on the same side. That is what I said. Okay. So could check this out division and racial injustice is nothing to do with coming together. Those are antithesis for one another. I mean, let's be Frank urological guy. You didn't make an argument with sound evidence. Those two things are the exact opposite. So why when we come together of people of all raise all kinds, and we're supporting not just the Seattle. Hawks are gonna turn it on miss, my Celtics, right or or or or the Seattle Mariners who everyone thinks it's going to be a bus this year. We come together, and we put our right hand over a heart. We take our cap on. We make a point to say, whatever is that divide us. Whatever it is that separates us. Whatever it is. It is unjust about our actions on a daily basis we walk into the grocery store when we're in the middle of a line talking. So you're alluding to stand up for the national anthem. You're saying that that's something that brings us all together. Why support somebody taking a knee is that your question or it's an opportunity and no, no, no, no. I'm asking you as Detrick question because sir, if you want me to let you speak I'll let you speak in some time. And then I'll cut you off because it's my show. But if it's, but that is if is if it's a rhetorical question. If you want an answer, I have an answer. I have an answer. Okay. Ready for the answer. You ready for the answer? Absolutely. Again. This is not about your brother because obviously, my heart goes out to you and your family, and I wish he was still here with you. I've lost a brother myself. I understand where you're coming from. But let's also make sure that we understand something here. If you have an individual or individuals or group of people in this nation who are disenfranchised and desolate, and they can point to sustain Mik issues and policies that keeps them down. And they have a problem with it for you to sit up there and say in a country that allows freedom of speech in a country that gives you an alien -able, right? As an American to fight for your very civilization. And what you believe civilized civilized society shouldn't tell it is not for you to sit up there and say that Colin capital or anybody else for that matter is being divisive. When in fact, when they could sit around and turn around, and they can make the argument. Oh, no, we're talking to you. And try to showcase for you. What indeed needs to transpire in order to bring us together because your definition of toge-? Weather isn't applicable with ours. We don't view it as together. We don't view it as once society equality for all, and what have you that's not our experience. And if that's what he is thinks, sir. You can't debunk that. No, I'm not. But I will also say that it takes a whole heck of a lot of courage right to have that conversation, and the congress take place doesn't in my opinion. Right. And and I I think to be fair, you know, what you're saying is absolutely on point. I'm not arguing with the underlying actual events in our society that have taken place that need to be talking about it need to be discussed and sports my heavens. You know, it's kind of like them and then a gauche remind like I said, it's an opportunity for people rushed. I need you to rush. 'cause I gotta hawk commercial break. Go ahead. What without bloviating? I'll just say this. I disagree with the prime and the place and the presentation because there's nothing to do with having a lack of sensitivity to what's going on. And there are people all over the country. Got your show who wants for its fans who come together, and they see opportunity really be you got. I gotta run our the call. I would not have protested. I've often said that, but he does have a right as an American citizen that do it without fear of being blackballed. And that's what happened in that can't be escape. But I gotta run it at eight say ESPN is presented by progressive insurance for more than thirty unique coverage options available progressive, no small business. Learn more progressivecommercial dot com back to close out the show in a minute. We're Stephen ESPN radio ESPN news. Guess what you're in the middle of a Stephen Smith show podcast. If you missed any of the show today. Go check it out on demand in the Stephen a Smith podcast brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering accounts with no fees or minimums that can be opened in five minutes Capital One. Hey, what's in your wallet? It eight say ESPN, it's always the number to call giving and get on outta here that they gotta say it's good to be back. I'm just curious. I really really wanna know. What's the net settlement? I wanna know what the NFL asked Colin cabinet to capitulate to what he agree to capitulate. That's just me y'all might not be curious about it. But I am. Can't wait till the show progresses. This week. Got a lot of stuff to talk about the NBA. And he was a major league baseball as well. So stick around I'll talk to y'all in twenty two hours until then it's great to be back, but I'm signing off until tomorrow piece of grass just a sample of what you hear on the Stephen swift show, weekdays at one PM eastern on ESPN radio and ESPN app. Data rates may apply wonder to become okay for men to be Lazier softer fatter. We need to bring the men of this country back to greatness, and it's easier than ever with ageless male max a patent pending formula with an ingredient that helps boost your total testosterone promoting greater increases in muscle size and twice the reduction of body fat percentage that exercise alone. 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"The stephen a smith show podcast is brought to you by the new capital. One safercar earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent at grocery stores and one percent on all other all the purchases. Hey what's in your wallet. This is the stephen smith show podcast davide our number two with the steven smith show here on e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. News channel eighty sirius x._m. Baba shoes in for stephen hey and e._s._p._n. Radio is presented by progressive insurance. Pick from a range of coverage options with the name your price tool to find a price that works for you tons of football in our number one. We're going to kick off hour number two with football and why not one of the best. We've got here at e._s._p._n. Former player now an insider expert ryan clark joins us here and you know. I was watching this morning on get up. You're brought up cam. Newton's injury and i thought to myself that you're a guy. That's almost almost like devoid of gray hair. You're actually still kind of young person got a bit then. I realized that you actually are from like the dark ages. Young players still played football that the preseason games at one point during your career was still a tool to get ready but your take this morning morning. I saw with cam newton. It really is now a conundrum. This leaks seemed to find themselves. In where do you stand on. Were preseason. Football is now where it was when you played. I think it's gonna go well. I love preseason football for guys like me. I was undrafted free agent without the hall of fame game and without being able to play the whole the game in the fourth preseason game. I probably don't make the new york giants my rookie year or the wash to redskins in my third year so i understand the value of it but but that's when it was valued it's win. It was a different thing now that the rules have changed now that the perception of the way the games are viewed food and also the way coaches use their players. It's different right and so if you look at how a carson wentz is being prepared haired by going to camp with different teams being able to see him play in controlled environments but see different things though peterson feels. That's a better way to get his one one hundred and forty million dollar guy prepared to play day one and i don't disagree with him when you see aaron rodgers and how easy it was for matt lafleur even though every roger was supposed to play in game three win the field conditions war good. Oh no you're not playing but thirty other guys aren't playing as well and so when you look at preseason football from that point of view you start to say whoa. Does anybody need to play well. Actually you actually are your career is is the bridge which between when it really is something and now because i thought of those negotiations and i told the story and our number one that i was. I called jets radio here in new york. Marty lyons is my partner. We were our first year on the job. Fourth preseason game two thousand two jets jets eagles. <hes> herm edwards walks over to us on the sideline. He's got vinny testaverde as a starting quarterback vinny at that point had been thirty seven to thirty years old. He comes over to us says boys. Put your charts away. Nobody's playing so what are you talking about. Nobody's playing so just talk to andy. He's not playing any of his guts andy. We got on the media elevator. Donovan donovan mcnabb was in a sweat suit on the elevator going sweet right to the sideline and i think that was not just the first year that was the first i game where a head coach in the n._f._l. Decided in preseason game number four were done. We're done getting ready. I'm not playing any of my guys tonight and what herm saw. Andy was sitting his guys said. I'm not gonna send my thirty seven or thirty eight year old quarterback out there with some third stringer trying to be a hero of make the team right and he gets hit by this guy i saw he sat all of his guys that kind of spread like wildfire and the following year. Nobody played anywhere in the league in week four and now it's gotten to the point. We're there guys that don't play at all and you still you know your your career kind of bridges that gap from when it went to a legitimate tool to get ready to now guys not playing at all yeah. Absolutely i think it was kind of an antiquated tool right. It was something that the n._f._l. Had in place because you can charge the same amount for tickets people will still come to the games and you've lower your labor costs right so it was a tool in that sense and because it was there for us guys used to play but it's it's a copycat league wants. Andy reid starts to do that herm edwards season and now other coaches and also the money goes up right so as the salary recap increases these assets worth too much money. You're into deep to them and they're in your pocket so deeply that you can't afford to not have them and when you look hey guys in this day and age what quarterbacks are being paid. Why would you put him out there right. You look at saquon barkley. Why would you put him out there. Levy i'm bill why i would put him out there. So guys are making the smart choice because you only have so many hits in your body to not give a guy twenty games. Worth of those and training camp is not what training camp used used to be. Thank god shrank. Exactly training camp used to be a legitimate tool to get yourself back into football shape because some of these guys have regular the jobs in the s._e._c. because they weren't making the kind of money right now. If you're saquon barkley you come in on day one looking like a guy that has done nothing but workout <music> out from the end of last season two this season so i think today's football player because the money that they're making their whole off season is based on nothing but football nutritionists us and working out and personal trainers o._t. As the off season conditioning program you don't need training camp to get yourself into football shape. You're pretty much in football shape. When you step in the door on day one of camp well i think i think you're in shape to prepare for football. Shaving can be honest you you need some of those reps and you need some of the games once the season star but can put you really that for your denuded games to do it it. It starts to get you there. I think the thing is though oh if everybody's doing the same thing we kind of all the same right right if you take it down to two games and all we have is to to prepare if everybody's preparing the same way which do rules usually dictate then you're fine. <hes> you know the first game. You're going to be a little winded. It's going to be some adrenalin. I can say this for his great. A shape i will oh come into camp in and prepare for it would be easier for me to play game sixteen than it was for me to play game one right because even we're playing preseason games. You played to the sir quarter. Maybe as a starter in game three because things started to change and so it was still different to play four quarters of fifteen minutes a quarter and so you still have to get yourself in that condition but it's still the point now you can't risk these guys being hurt because once you get guys injured it changes the course of your season and also when you look at these careers one season can change your life so coaches are starting to catch on to that players especially understand that as well. That's why the c._b._a.'s it begins to change and i think you're gonna take this year and where preseason games have been going and that's going to be a part of the goshi going forward ryan clark talking football sir bobby shoes on e._s._p._n. Radio all right another guy heard you talk about. This morning was daniel gels. I made the point now. We're number one that pat shurmur is kinda. Throw in this in everybody's face now with almost an i told you so quote but i want to hear about the guys didn't think he could play and my point to that was o- off preseason football where nobody's game planning for you. He's coming in after eli so he seeing predominant number of backups for the other team defensively backup start so knack back. That's exactly right. You know what you really want it thrown. I told yourself preseason football at everybody. Put your money where your mouth is a stardom but that'll show me something start on day one when the regular season begins. Is that the way you would go. That's what i said right. If we're going to have this smug arrogant pompous attitude about it when win. I watched the draft night post interview. I'll watch daniel jones first press conference there. There was that excitement. We didn't see that sly smirk it. Wasn't that all i'm telling you when we were getting all the questions. That was the time to say it right. That was the time to say. I know we haven't daniel jones. I know what type of guy he's going to be. That's the reason i made the decision to draft him. David is saw something on film that let me know. This guy was worth the six pick but we didn't get. We got slumped in the chair right. We got quiet right. We got we got the under bite so we got all those things. We got all of those things now all of a sudden because he's played well in preseason and he's played really well. Yes i just slightly good and compared to calamari and dewayne haskins. He's had a better preseason than those guys but if you believe in him if you drafted him six if he was worth at peak and he's showing you everything you thought he was. Which is the reason you took him. You started. I know how it works. The conventional wisdom says you have eli manning. They're already let him start the season. See how the team goes if we replay ourselves out of the playoff if eli shoulders beyond a shadow of a doubt he doesn't have it anymore now. We can put danny jones because exit. Expectations are gone right if if he does it play well if the team doesn't do well you say ally was bad too. We're planning for the future. This team's no good but if he does play the world. It's like see i told you and why do you guys think he was good. Here's what i'll say i think he has played really well and i think in most situations agai drafted sixth sixth overall with a quarterback on the last year contract. They guy starts now. We know what it's been like to get. Eli manning off the throne in new york but the last guy you try to replace them with gino's yeah. That was a mistake that was right. They were wrong time. We're wrong and this time. I understand you want to be careful but here was here is my thoughts on dave gettleman. Dave gettleman took heat for drafting saquon barkley. Who was the best player in the draft last year but you had at the time three quarterbacks people thought could be franchised guy and baker guys and baker mayfield sam donald and josh josh rosen. He does the pick any of those guys. He says you know what this is the best guy in the draft. I'm gonna take him in for for what it looks like. This dude is going to be a star in a hall all of fame. He's right about that right. He was right right so zain. You take daniel jones and when you take them. You don't really talk about it. You say oh my baby weight to two thousand in twenty. That's not really the this is our guy type thing but you took him six when you could have gotten josh allen and maybe gotten jones probably gotten day jobs at seventeen and they they swear they know that's gonna go before but i agree with you. Don't tell people that would be admitting john. Elway's not running around like mine if he falls to ten. You better believe he's going to be our guy right but you took you took you've taken them. You've done all this. He seems ready to play. Let him play eh. Don't don't you've gone against conventional. Wisdom you going against history to get to this point. Do it one more time right. You put your job on the line. When you draft the day jones six matter how you look at it. There's no question dave gettleman legacy with the giants at taj remember by default halt as well as tied to whether or not the saquon barkley passing on sam darnold move yes and now drafting daniel jones this past year works out and so two percent and so that brings up a great point which you saying pat shurmur as well what we're seeing from pat shurmur isn't assurance. It isn't confidence. It's called relief because he didn't know i couldn't has your opinion changed pre. Have you seen enough every season football. I two than you throw it on my after my opinion has changed in in this sense because of his draft status in his draft raff spot slot i was harder in could cheat critiquing him then i would have been had. He been picked up seventeen head. I felt like their warrant better players to to pick that spot and still probably get daniel jones. You understand absolute when you watch them play one. He's athletic and he rather really shown that. This is the guy who who really ran the ball. Well at duke. He had a rushing game for over one hundred yards. He had a lot of drops in college but also if you watched the ball come out of his hand and even and now there's not the zip is the straight line line drive that you see sometimes from dwayne haskins and cuyler murray and even josh allen going lascher baker mayfield so some some of those things aren't there but the toughness right the the ability to understand offense at least from a preseason standpoint make the right reason right throws check downs. We need it. He's done those things. It's not necessarily that my opinion of him has changed as two more so now. I'm critiquing. Daniel jones owns the rookie quarterback. Not daniel jones the guy we could have gotten another spot or are we taking six and he has he has shown me that that he has a foundation to be very good starting quarterback in this league how that continues to progress up to him and the way that pat shurmur and that staff develop soon bobble shoes and e._s._p._n. Radio ryan clark with us another big topic this week in the n._f._l. The diva wide receivers of course being front and center in training camp. I know you start your career with the giants. You're an old steeler. Everybody knows you as an old steeler. I know you know a lot of people still in pittsburgh so you may have a better feel for what went on there and all of this then anybody had a pretty good feel but how much if anything with antonio brown and what's happened happened now that he's a raider has surprised you as any of this drama surprised you. Do you know what's the thing is. I'm not surprised by him. I am feeling a certain way about certain things or warning things done his way. I'm kind of surprised that about the way they've been handled. You know you would thank you have a circle that allows you to be protected in that way but he's also a made man and if you look at athletes as they progress and this happens with basketball players evan more they reach a point where they stopped caring about putting on a face they reach a point where they stopped caring about the side. That's where antonio brown is and i've always thought to be individualistic self centered in a way in in kind of focused on his world. Did the steelers keep a lot of stuff. Maybe beneath the surface even realize what's going on. Yeah you know there was something that came out recently with the chef antonio brown and some and some money eh being owed. I knew about that for a while. I actually got the call from the chef because he's worked with us and he's like hey man. This is what's going on you. Can you help me out. Is this something you wanna report and i was like no i don't because it has nothing to do with football and it's one of those things i've received a a lot of heat for saying my feelings about antonio brown as they pertain to football and you kinda you never want to defend yourself but there over time especially on twitter with people coming at me as being an african american former player and talking about another black player that i should have protected him and every now and then i thought out trust me we you and i have and so in those things. The steelers did the same because that's what you're supposed to do for your family. If you told anybody was protecting them though then they'd know you were protecting right right which would almost defeat the purpose and you know and so and so in those things. I think this situation is one where this is what he wants. This is what he's trying to to get. It's scarier me that you have to leave the team for these things right the the oakland raiders. Don't control the helmet. You don't control the helmet. Even if you feel feel like you can't wear that helmet and at the time obviously his feet are hurting so he couldn't practice be around your team. The one thing jon gruden loves about antonio brown other than in his production is his work ethic and it is amazing. Marcus spears brought it up to me. One day off i take that he thought he just wanted to miss to miss training camp and i said i believe that one hundred percent to be untrue because one thing he's never shied shied away from his work and it scares me that he's allowing something like this to be so all consuming that he's forgetting that one foundational on dacian no staple that has made him a great player that he is and that showing up and being at work and you saw that towards the end of his career in pittsburgh with leaving leaving coming back to the team or game day and now you're seeing that early in oakland that's the one thing i would say i never expected from some of the other antiques some the other things we've seen maybe but to see him not be with the team or choose to do other things other than get. Those reps is strange for me again. Ryan clark with with us here on e._s._p._n. Radio bobble shoes and how do you think things and with zeke. How do you think things and i think elvin gordon like. When are these guys actually going to get to the point where they miss opening day. I believe melvin gordon gets the deal done. I think he understands you know where he is and he's been offered a good deal and i don't believe that the charges are going to move off of things. I've been hearing and asking questions. That's a deal that could get done. You look at ezekiel elliott. If edwards report is true and they want to offer neck neck that amount of money. That's actually a window on no question right. You're a guy guide has two years left on your contract. That's the key. If you don't play you can't you can't cro- a season that goes toward free agency anyway. You are not in the levy on bill situation. You haven't gotten a franchise tag for a year so you have money stack. You don't don't get to be a free agent if you sit out so if you're zeke elliott. You've actually forced their hand in a position where it didn't have to be forced where they could have said. You know what there's no no way we are doing doing a deal this year. Sit out if you want. We're not paying you any money. You have nothing to gain from that so right. Now you're in a position to the two win and you have one but if he is dead set on being the highest paid running back in the league which i don't think he's wrong for feeling that way i i think it could be difficult but the cowboys have seen to butch to this point. They've seen to move. We honestly don't know win. This deal was offered so maybe zeke yo sticks. Thanks to it and sits out but i've been on phone calls when game checks were on the line and i'm saying no. Let's sit out. Let's not let's not not vote yes on his c._b._a. Let's just wait a little bit camp easy. You know and i remember getting the calls now. We gotta get back now. I gotta play now. Need those checks so it's just a foreign thought as for former player to think that a guy is gonna miss checks in a situation. She doesn't have to if i'm zeke's agent. What i'm telling him is <music>. You're not a free agent. I have no problem with you trying to leverage a new contract especially at that position right because there's only so much tread those guys have on the tire running backs with this play for four years of fifth year rookie option that the rule that applies to all positions there almost should be a separate rule that applies to those guys because they're ceiling is probably seven or eight years. You're gonna start seeing a deterioration. He quarterbacks playing for fifteen years and they're still still playing at a high level and they're paid twice with. These guys are paid so i understand his position but it's the same thing. The mets went through a jacob degrom and they eventually got a deal deal done with him because they control them for two more years and that's if i'm eight. I'm like zeke. They control you for two more years so you can't not only try to leverage new contract but hold it against them if they're not gonna pay you the way they would pay you two years from now like you're a free agent. You're not a free agent. There's gotta be if they're going to give you gotta. Give a little bit as well and that's the point. It has to get to rocky arsenault. Who is his agent who was upset with the zeek who comments he can't get upset right you. You can't get i think this is a respectful offer that reporting which i think it can't get emotional about it and the point that you look at how you can have a running back now for five years if you draft him early i i think that's the reason you get linnet for knitted for ezekiel elliott at four saquon barkley at two. It's different that had changed when they thought you you had to pay a certain amount of money and treat them a certain ways for us. Contractually it was different but now they feel like i can get a guy who can be a star right away very early and have them for five years for cheap cheap sofa zeki. Oh elliott you have really done a great job in sitting out and forcing them to the table to actually offer you a fair contract. Even if it's is not the best contract or the one you want. It is more than fair but it's not my job to count. His money is not my job to say how much is enough for him so if he feels like he needs to sit out to get what he's worth that i think he definitely should because that's what football players have to do sometimes especially at the running back position. I just don't know jerry jones and steven jones butch. I could talk football with you for another hour time. He gave me to this point. Thank you bye man have agree with that is ryan clark with us here on the stephen smith show on e._s._p._n. 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So that could be a big series in terms of home field for both of those teams dodgers yankees. That's that's really the signature series in in baseball coming up this weekend and it's time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless and the straight talk on sunday night baseball the pitching matchup. I think it's domingo hormone clayton kershaw aw so the best the yankees have had all season although you worried about her mom being on an innings limit but brian cashman basically said that's out the window as it should be once he gets the postseason you gotta let him go because the yankees right now by far their biggest achilles heel is their rotation. He has been the best in their rotation. He has earned the right unless you just think masahiro tanaka is duke it. It doesn't matter what he's done. In the regular season. You're just gonna have blind faith and he's going to go out there in the postseason and pitch to the one five e._r._a. He has as a postseason pitcher to mingo. Hormone has been their best so if i were managing the yankees aaron boone tomorrow tomorrow and a playoff series began. I'd have to have a long hard conversation with my pitching coach larry rothschild and the rest of my coaching staff about who starts game one. If i had my pick of their rotation you probably start tanaka just based on his postseason resume and experience but it's not an automatic domingo. Harmon has been the best they've had so yankees. Dodgers begins tonight sunday night baseball. That's our show and it should be hormone kershaw on sunday. That's the straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless everything for less only walmart's gets more telephone calls in john. Georgia has been patient. He's next here on e._s._p._n. Radio on a sofa my question so last week. I think either earlier this week or late last week steam. They was talking about the last time a n._f._l. Rushing champ actually led his team to was i think he said it was the year that terrell davis wanted now. What are these like issues as you see. Some of these receivers can tonio brown lovie j. and stuff like that. You know demanding these huge contracts which i mean they're definitely talented but the only thing that it kind of gets away 'cause i'm a wide receiver with the super bowl team. It's not and you guys. I would never want to lump these guys in as divas abbas like julio jones's anything but a diva by all accounts. Julio jones is about as good a teammate as there is i mean he is just a top notch player and a really good guy and a guy. Never you never hear anything about julio. The way you hear about the ocho cinco t._o.'s randy mosses and the you know in the you know oh current day divas like the antonio brown's and beckham's of the world but he's probably of the current group of great receivers that team had the super super bowl one if they would just run the ball in the second half the patriots would have run at a time and julio have a ring but some of the other top receivers in the n._f._l. Like mega tron never wanna play off game. I don't think so you don't need the top flight number one wide receiver to win. That's been proven proven time and time again. I just think it's it's come down to awake some of these guys like at what point do you check your head to the door and realize that like what i'm doing is completely counterproductive like getting paid but at the end of the day you're gonna walk away and a look at your career. You're gonna people like joe wondering why the voters didn't make them a first <unk> outlets. That said he should have been. I about person but if you're talking about odell beckham what in odell beckham n._f._l. Career other than the giants trading him i am has been negative feedback like what what where where where where has he ever gotten an indication that the way he is his acting has hurt his career in any way you got humongous track lord or that playoff game where he ended up ended up no showing that what about that yeah and then and then after that he got paid right after they get a huge contract and on top of that is you know one of the most marketable most endorsed players in the n._f._l. So ninety nine percent of the feedback coming back to odell beckham is keep it up. Keep being who you are why not and and i'm just saying you you have a you have a locker room right now in cleveland where i'm wondering who is the voice inside that locker room. That's going to go to odell beckham and say zip it. Stop talking about the giants. It's about it's about us. It's about cleveland but what we're doing right here or if at some point it becomes about cleveland which at some point you have to figure his entire track record has been there will be drama at some point from josh norman the disappearing off the field because he doesn't like water issues like a dog in the end zone to going on sportscenter next the little wayne to getting involved in a fight with a kicking net to the boat trip mean you don't think at some point that's all giant stuff off all of that is giants related stuff to multiple times over and over again as a brown still having stuff to say about the giants easy to defend if if you're the browns when it's not about you what i want to know is freddie kitchens rookie head coach second year quarterback who's never been through this before who right now of course is defending odell beckham because that's a guy when it becomes about the browns which the entire track record suggests at some point it will become about the browns. Who's the voice in that locker room. It tells them no. That's not what we're doing because the giants never had that the giants had to move on from him because they had no voice in their locker room including a quarterback and even tom coughlin the head coach at one point and then defend mcadoo nobody what he ever told him shut up who in cleveland's gonna tell him to shut up rookie head coach t._j. North carolina joins us next here on e._s._p._n. Radio i d._j. Doesn't going buddy how are you. I'm doing good. <hes> i just want to address the candidate situation with the free season sure <hes> i actually agree with you. I think it should be two preseason games. I think it should be none but i think a realistic goal would be to get it down to two okay okay and number two as a panther fan here in north carolina that you think number one where they've injury. It's gonna put a dagger and number two even with the b fifty you think our seasons and big effort here but it doesn't sound like that right. I mean what we heard from the panthers themselves. Today is day to day or they expect them to be ready for week. One that that would be their hope any x rays were negative so they're calling it a mild foot sprain so i would expect he'd be out there for week one but that doesn't take away that visual of your franchise quarterback walking out of a walking boot after a preseason game exactly like yeah. I want to say that you put on some good calls over the years. <hes> you know some good work so keep it up. I appreciate actually down in north carolina in week one week one of college football for our crew calling north carolina south carolina so the return of mack brown and a little border war between the carolinas on saturday afternoon of labor day weekend so looking forward to that one that game is in charlotte so that should be a good scene. I'm expecting in the panthers stadium some expecting a lot of sky blue and a lot of dark red and that should be a fun place to be. Let's go to see joins us next year on e._s._p._n. Radio bobble shoes and sit in for stephen. Hey bob. I'm happy to impose to incite job. You know i was watching. I believe children black and i was watching the raider game last night. Bob raiders against green bay and <hes>. I noticed one thing that stood out to me. It was auspicious but he knew he played in canada. What happening was i'm saying touchdown but they're convinced the field and you know why because the field goals in in canada the demographics are different correct you know up there and then he left the whole you know in the end zone. I don't blame the play a lot of players you wanna play. I mean he the miller something near you break away or l._a. She'll she'll every field. Prior to every game is inspect lead for its fitness. This foreplay they obviously at some point determined that it was okay to use but they absolutely understand why when the players went out there and saw that uprights attach unique jensen they said no and it's season game. I mean the games meaningless look. You're telling the low title billion dollar business in the n._f._l. Which stands not for long sometimes or the no friendly but you know when you have this type of walk cataclysmic situation that goes. I don't blame them at all either but you know someone should have no address that issue. Maybe six months ago. Did they know they were coming up. I mean they didn't let it get to be a cataclysmic situation. They just shorten the field to eighty yards. Which of course look ridiculous. That inside of the ten yard line was a touchdown touchdown and it's cataclysmic if they say the field is fit for play antonio brown goes out there and rex's knee because he plants on that patch so they were never going to let that happen so it didn't become cataclysmic. It just became embarrassing. Go to matt who joins us next to run s._p._n. Radio what's up matt. Hey how you doing sir good. Hey good show so far today. <hes> got a quick question. Maybe a small <hes> aspect of the whole pre season. He'll fire away. I'm listening. I'm listening. I didn't hear the question okay yeah so there are players trying to <hes> make the squad so to say so if we were to have <hes> let's preseason games <hes>. How do you think that's going to affect a like rookies in new guys on the team. They have more practicing and then have more practices. I mean i think what you'd also see as teams are very big fans of controlled scrimmages against other teams in their respective training camps so instead of it being full blown game like you'll have sometimes certain teams will travel to go practice for two or three days against another team but then the coaches are controlling it. It's much more predictable than a a game situation and these coaches watch watch practice all the time. They can get a lot of player evaluation done in practice. You know if you want to know whether or not this rookie corner should make your team team. I can dial up drills and practice where i'm going to throw one on ones against him time and time again in practice if i put him on the field in a preseason game and there's no telling if the ball in a preseason games gonna come his way so yes it can sometimes help a player evaluation. Sometimes it's irrelevant the player evaluation and that's why i think the coaches and the general managers would probably tell you rather than preseason games. Give me an environment that control. I can dial up rep so i can see this guy because i know the ball's gonna go his way. If you missed any of today's show by the way check it out on demand stephen stephen smith podcast brought to you by capital and quicksilver card earning unlimited one point five percent cashback on every purchase everywhere. What's in your wallet more calls before the top of the the hour that after the top of the hour. I'll be right back here on e._s._p._n. Radio for the wheel came show. It's the stephen a smith show on e._s._p._n. Radio bobble shoes and sitting in for stephen a coming right back triple eight say e._s._p._n. A. and triple eight seven nine three seven seven six. This is e._s._p._n. Radio stephen smith show is being brought to you by bob sol. 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Now you have running backs that our justice good ezekiel elliott look at the running back to carolina. That's done so so much for the panthers. Never got in trouble never suspended from the league <noise>. I would not pay him more money than maybe on bell south africa. We're talking about kristof mccaffrey. He's a baby you know. I mean zeke. Elliott's still a baby. He's only fourth year. These guys are still young. We'll we'll talk about this more on the will cain show it's baba shoes and sitting in for stephen a coming up next sitting in for we'll stay with us on e._s._p._n. Radio that's just a sample of what you hear on the stephen smith show weekdays at one p._m. Eastern on e._s._p._n. Radio and the e._s._p._n. App.

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Hour 2: Cliff Floyd joins

"The Stephen Smith Show here with you over the National Airways of ESPN radio and ESPN news two hundred and fifty plus markets across the United States of America Check Your Am FM listening nearest you plus this is the Stephen a Smith Show podcast well come tower number two watched Aroldis Chapman get cute and go away from his gas and decide to throw back to back eighty seven mile our sliders at lt they've dealt with so much from an injury standpoint that you had a lot of conflict with the lineup right when when you look at Cla Flora here with Steven A. Espn Radio Espn new doesn't outstanding job covering baseball for the MLB network just make sure you watch him tonight Game One opinion unbelievable right I mean they got a lot of a lot I mean a lot of production guys all think we thought we were going to do what they did most responsible is Brian Cashman and the reason why it's very very simple we all knew Houston was going to be in this position we all knew that they had Cole and they had Berlin all of the men were going on I gotTa Tell Ya I needed to talk to you I'm not GonNa lie I've been battling depression over the last couple of days when our plus premium gasoline now with four levels of defense against gunk wear corrosion and friction it at eight say espn on La with us right now is outstanding baseball if you are Brian Cashman yes Minnesota's smack three hundred and seven home runs you smack three Oh six you know good and damn well the Houston Astros are going to be waiting how do you have ton of opportunities offensively to capitalize and you just not GonNa win a tough series against elite team like the Astros consistency especially with big boys in the middle of your order you need guys like those two who haven't played much talk about you know span and not you know we talked about last live at checkout to get ten percent off your next order don't buy just any seat get a vivid seats also Stephen Smith show is being brought to you by the new shelby power nitro unlisted MLB network getting ready for the world series which begins tonight I'm talking about the one and only cliff floyd he's on allowing us right now what's going on good afternoon are you doing man taking Stroz world series I mean I'm sick to my stomach over it cliff floyd talk to be I what the hell happened to the New York Yankees move out to all I I can't get the sound of Joe the Great Joe Buck's voice out of my ear when he says Al Too Washington nationals at the Houston Astros BEF- before I get to this world series one more question I have been one that's been on the record the person that gala Louise Back you still have to deal with the rust and I'm GonNa tell you another thing that happened the mingle her mind hurt them down the stretch we've known dot com is due to do I thought they did a really good job Luis Severino is probably one of the reasons he came back but he just it's one of those things when you when you talk about I get more pitching before that deadline expired whether it was himself who they really they want to come to the Yankees whether it was wheel or somebody from the mets something and then you go out and you get cranky I mean it was a foregone conclusion because I believe pitching wins in the post season now great hitting but great pitching it just seems to always be the case you've not doing those things I just mentioned fell you know you have five or six base load of opportunities to score runs and you do have some tough pitching out there but Damghan series of based off them too and when you talk about small ball you talk about some of these things that I mentioned about the Yankees not being able to do I think and one of the same way so you come with the last game of the season and you go against Giancarlo Stan maybe put everyone in the results wasn't there but me personally give him an a plus and how he's how he's going about his roster situation so I look at him trying to accomplish theirself was enough for me to say you know you there was so much during the course of the season with injuries and what they would do this season was and came now when you say a lot of things went up against the Yankees real quick tell me tell me what would you think first and foremost and still be you know still believe that you're going to go out there and like fill that void so the bullpen dope they are and how you can sort in a game mistake so I don I look you challenge him he's GonNa make you pay I was Bremen he hasn't had a great postseason thus far so I think it's he steps up what you just you just put it out this I mean that in itself you cannot get beat with your second pitch I just that's how I look at it a lot of mishaps right supporting cast players table semi annual those guys in your mind I mean you can look at Korea you bring in Houston you can look at Hendrix in Washington ace how you put the pressure on opposing defense to make a play I think that's going to be it because if if I'm coaching imagine this the this world series fluoride here with Steven at ESPN radio ESPN news. I think this world series between Houston and Washington comes down to the two aces I mean to me it's about coal and you WanNa add to do but I don't think you give up what these teams are asking when you have a bullpen if someone like that and I think they did a good job again where they were I got you wrong in feeling that way well you know I'll say this I think Kasmin Been one of the Best I've liberty I'm not I'm not letting Anthony from nasty me I'm definitely not letting out to be right so who who's your who's go to guys as far as you have to be able to score some runs if you're going to beat that team and it didn't happen they made they made some errors in a game allow things one against the Yankees at university during the course of the season Landa versus shows in Strasbourg I know you corbin and cranky into the mix I get all of that but I think it's about those two what about you lauren percent you got the catches and I think that's the one thing when you look at how how these theories play out Torino's from Astros Nope damn good and then you flip it on on the other side Washington WanNa ball they're not thinking about the guy behind the play calling the pitches and who do you think has the advantage and et department man you know what I think I think they really they both have really team or the team that's hot because when I'm looking at Houston this is a team that I mean listen they registered the most strikeouts with their pitchers and or your who are those guys outside of the guys that you for from from the nets side be returned at the top I think he's figure out different ways to gather motion I I must say over and over hit and runs all these things get third base coach we don't play a pivotal role some things without derailing you know what they're building from a mile lease standpoint Sausalito I just look at the what here's some of what the bullpen and what he was asking him like nineteen and thirty one and look at how they finished off second best record in baseball tie with the dodgers from that point forward what do you make of them are right now terms of how hot they are and who's the better team who's playing better which team is playing better well they both outstanding but as you directly this is what this disturbance is going to be staying I do I think it's going to be Not Allow Score I think you're GONNA look at teams and how they play defense how they take the extra you have to say the national sleep better they they literally made the cardinals look like they weren't as good as I thought they were I mean think about how they haven't played talk about the situation very sensitive but I think when you look at losing a guy like her mom who did real well on the season though you ella for the loser star like that go down to when you what you execute in that box when you facing these do's and I'm telling you how you go about when you get on base you can't you can't go station station he could be a game changer for the series but I still believe you're talking about you know how how are you going to beat these these studies of pitchers well you might have two big news in Melbourne or the St when bone on bone these trying to figure out he's going to start spending is GonNa start at when like the unique rest for your for your stars on then you look on the flipside for the Astros Presley right when you look at what my man's going through I don't know if he's GonNa be ready I'll have to capitalize when you get a shot and you can't miss a pitch what about catching because let me tell you something right now a lot of people a lot of times when people look at pitches they're thinking about guys on you and I spoke for eighteen as you roy if he's not getting consists in a bad it's gonna be hard for him to be the guy you want especially in fourth in your life going to have to take a chance or maybe send the guy when he probably shouldn't and then put the pressure on the defense make play during this time of year who do you go with do you go with the best talking about getting three or four hundred started and then pass the baton down them I think philosophy worked they did a really good job as far as having opener tag green through the cost of the season I bet well you got Suzuki right so I I look at this whole Harley and say they they're going there up to you before I let you get on Outta here you know during the off season what would it be through the three biggest stories Manny Machado signs for three hundred million San Diego Bryce Harper size of three hundred on here manufacturer man you have to be able to do these boys while you're not going to beat them Garrett Cole is GonNa sit there and if he's not filling a certain pitch Stephen he obviously committed the fewest strikeouts as hitters the one hundred seven games for a reason but when I look at the nationals obviously they got hot at the right time I think may thirty first I me I mean if I'm on the team I'm GonNa tell you how I don't do it I love the players I think League Baseball compared to you know when you consider the absence of results they're able to generate million dollar question a great one the best top ten stars in game I mean these are arguably the best in the game going ahead and that's all you can actually this will be a blouse on a mistake they make you not not going to beat them by getting singles and singles that's not gonNa work they just too good at being excavate prejudice and get out of some trouble so I Charleston best player in the game I would love to give a blank check and go do just don't hurt me too bad right but I have to look at this and figure out how right and then you look at the Astros they just complete squad like Aj hinch has multiple options at the he can go to thirty million with the Philadelphia Phillies Law Mike Trout size of four hundred and twenty six million with the Los Angeles angels of Anaheim all three the crucial for them and then from the for front from the Astros side I think it's Alice Springs because out to is your do right he's going to be sitting there way no you consistently good for a long period of time I look at longevity I do look at the windows of opportunity now no one those clothes quicken their game and I understand that wholeheartedly oh I think the one good thing if you to nationals is your you get you got the rest a little bit from a star tastes standpoint and build that back up so ate them all that money but it handcuff them for so long our pools they these types of contracts handcuffed teams at times but you feel for me ninety nine to one hundred good luck here not consistently right and say with Berlin a same Max Sandwich Strasbourg how they feel it so you WanNa have the about it my attitude is simple I'm not paying a damn NBA Major League Baseball player that amount of money because it's too many guys yeah I can get really good players can play together I definitely don't want to ever tank and and just give you know give up Mr postseason all three managers were let go does it pay to pay the players in major the only exception I would make the only exception cliff is a guy like Mike Trout who I believe pays for himself because if you the angels and you sound eighteen can literally deliver you a championship so that makes sense to me it's impossible for one guy to do that in Major League baseball I'm not giving up that kind of but I I I can't justify looking at Ross to while I'm struggling to make major moves or to go out and get Garrett cold as all season or maybe stratoshpere if I'm if I'm on I got billions I'm going to look at how can I get a whole I'm I'm I'm never going to get a whole bunch of trout's but maybe of teams and I'm not knocking the player signed a deal because any going with you know they ain't going hold up join get the money they they was giving them money Joe Mauer in Minnesota a billion dollar television deal and you can literally show evidence that this one player pays for it himself because of the money that he generates for you that's different Ah Blah this world series this is what you fight for but the Astros while fourteen more games than the regular season then the nationals but you mentioned that nineteen thirty one record so I look at I look at house going down the drain that those type deals don't really work so I absolutely agree with you I do want from pitcher standpoint Stephen I'm I'm back on that the seventy days they so they they're riding the high can't be worried about the layoff you gotta come out and ball you can't be worried about you know we didn't play competitive ball in two days a he's a big part of that bullpen and and if you nationals you have to capitalize on I think let me go to a generic topic because I wanted to bring this up you're going to have to fill A. bag on you don't WanNa give out I'm not saying give up our when I'm saying you know these women have to be situations where you put guys emotions a little hit and run is not about baseball to me that's about box office appeal that's where I would make the exception I don't think you can make that acceptable Bryce Harper Machado to that you say what money to play it is especially a pitcher who won throw away from Avid Tommy John Surgery for crying out loud after he gets the damn money I'm not doing it okay last question before I let you get on Outta here should the Yankees having said all you just said should the Yankees prioritize getting Garrett Cole away from Houston and getting him while the holidays is that have proven first of all in baseball. You're not enough to win this basketball that's different 'cause one or two players can deliver you a championship two players on a team to stars in the last I'll have in front of him but sixteen some Noah last six postseason games they give no one run that bullpen that everybody talked about was going to be you know that dagger always look at WHO's hot late because my remember what you did or on the seasons by what you're doing right now and the nationals they figured out bullpens situation in my opinion I think now I have to go protect what I just gave trout meaning that this all season is so crucial for them to go get to starters if you don't get to start is then then basically one thousand percent he he's right now so I I need I need is being radio on Sirius Xm channel eighty plus ESPN radio simulcast over the live national television airways of ESPN news download vivid seats APP and enter Promo Code Espn Twenty five what did I say you right I do I do think this though and you got and this is how put it real quickly when you asked her whole you do need these big boys Garrett Cole has to get paid if you don't get kershaw money I don't know what he has to get paid but I don't know if anybody needs to get kercheval so I I look at Severino a healthy one you put golden eye rotation you have that bullpen the way you you have a situation right now the seasons to get better I believe man you gotta you gotTa have a Grey Scouting Department express let me explain my philosophy to you and let me see what other guys don't give me that if I'm the angels rob if I do pay the money and I and and you do have challenge team then this all season has to be in billy yeah I do at the top of my rotation to then slide everybody else down that means Severino now he's a two can you imagine that Cold Severino now work on the deal if you if you just signing players I can't protect my investment because the world's going like if I'm the angels without giving the ball out of his way in the postseason I I gotta figure out different solution for and that's just he understand he said that's all seasons I look I get it south knocking off from cheese to not revenue understand all caked in but they've I can't justify because I look I've looked at contracts that I've had stanton I ca I can't get off that how am I gonNa do that just didn't play much and then you can't afford that to me is where you stand I love you to death but you rose things have to line the way line or you go get you go good Justin Burland but you have to make that trade for Gary Coleman like that's the only way you can justify the and falls on you put them out there and that's just wasting because you want to protect these I'm GonNa say they are human I love curse out of death he when I watched her during the regular season I insight from today and they let him chill let him relax a little bit and go look I don't feel all this pressure because now is the pressure in the postseason but you gotta Yankee Fans Harp and down your neck going to say what they wanna say about me and postseason true but I feel in a day I'm going to pay Kershaw because I have to get to postseason and he gonNa give me there yeah I'm talking about the postseason I hear you I'm saying this is what I'm talking about these are these are tough situations to put these guys in that's why when I was talking about Shia and you probably have to get whoever else you can get the option number two Dallas Cycle Banya three whatever they might need to get three do's justify giving that money I'm not that big of Severino I'm not that big Fan Severino I'm just not going to get it done when I need him to get it done what stimulus bright bright he he was hurt the whole apple a gentleman is a half a go out and get to do I don't know if you'll pay on not defer money whatever the case may do Garrett Cole has a bill and that's why it comes come spring training yeah because I think Kershaw's the example as to why shouldn't give money he's GonNa help you in a regular for a postseason he ain't GonNa do for you yeah well you know what though that that the over how complete of a team they are but I again with those two at the top with the nationals as I mentioned strasburger surgery if they still went on the role this could be back in the same situation probably different respects very last question I got the Astros winning in six games what are you have I got to I I can't get so my thoughts on the Lakers Stephen I know I know you have them at your favorite in several other people do but there's one there's one issue that I see Stephen at the bigger picture and that's thing I every single world series games with coverage beginning today at three PM Eastern Time Cloy MLB network analyst Li- who you have who do you have one in the chip that she could as my favorite though the Clintons all my favorite aggressive insurance celebrating seven years and over seven hundred cars donated Tibet's learn more at keys to progress dot com 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 The fit-for-work scandal - podcast

Today in Focus

24:41 min | 2 years ago

The fit-for-work scandal - podcast

"Today, how to many seriously ill and disabled people being found fit for work and opinion. The guardians poly toy Mbaye on the news that labour will back moves for a second e referendum in the coming weeks. An image went viral earlier this month of a man sitting in a hospital bed, so emaciated. He looked skeletal. Problems. A few problems with me. Echo published the story of sixty four year old Stephen Smith, and there's a picture that that we've seen that. We're gonna show other ways. That was you just before Christmas that right yet that's down to six six phone. New left hospital to attend a tribunal on his welfare payments. Komo hospitals. Also press to get there to speak my mind and tell them what was the problem and the department welcome pensions had removed Stevens disability benefits and found him fit for work. Now, he's going to a parliamentary ombudsman to find out. What went so wrong from the guardian? I'm new Gristana today in focus the fit for work scandal. Patrick Butler is the guardian social policy editor he remembers seeing the image of Stephen Smith on social media. The loop Poletto publish this. I saw it tweet and tweeted it beggars belief that this happened. But the curious thing is I've seen it many times before. What made Stevens miss case familiar to Patrick was it's linked to a benefit called employment. Support allowance to qualify for say a person has to be classified as to L or disabled to work and to prove that's the case they undergo a work capability assessment also known as a fit for work test. If like, Stephen they fail then moved onto Jobseeker's allowance. The first thing that he would have noticed is that he's at ESA, which is one hundred ten pounds week would have come down to the Jobseeker's allowance levels to sixty seven pounds of week second. We've notice that Jobseeker's allowance you're expected to fulfill certain conditions of the benefit. And that means you have to look for work for thirty five hours a week. So looking for work becomes a full time occupation. So Stephen who says I couldn't make it to the kitchen barely to make food. Once a day would be having to go out look for work. Go interviews turn up at the job centered sign on. And if you don't meet those conditions than you can be sanctioned savings math would have had to get himself to the job center every week despite the fact that he was struggling to twenty meters, exactly. Hello. Oh, hi. Terri finish here from the guardian. Okay. Just give me through Minnesota, Terry craven is a welfare adviser for Liverpool's Cassar community center. He took that picture of Stephen and has been working on his case since August two thousand seventeen we looked Moammar stent minds. Minds you're live on sixty seven pounds a week since the March at the same time, he was being forced to go to the up sense of every what's strange about Stevens cases that he was tested for two different welfare benefits ESA and the personal independence payment while the tests were really quite similar. They came up with contradictory results. Employment suppose Hussein he will fifty leases replace iffy. Without suddenly problem. The face independence payment saying e couldn't looks he maces. Be without survey. Breathlessness e copen do cripple acceptable. Some any rural very slow this who opinions on these willow huntersville Lucy. So in order to rescue the situation, I wrote to the pay on his behalf. I was pointing out that it was obviously another law the he would be found fifth away. That was the star of basically, maybe ignored on on able to make any vio progress with Steve take them across you. Oh, the way you came across is that we have been sessile by the suck the who's in liver. Fool in nineteen ninety s Stevens stepfather is next. He advised them to calm down cmih. When you look at Steve and you have this bizarre situation in which he'd been assessed differently by the same company. Did you know immediately? Whether he could walk not distance or not. He was. Wheel Zimmer on it was a patterns to anybody. So in severe difficulties did Steven tell you how he felt when he got the result of the assessment saying that he was fit for work. I'm be angry through stasis. It also. By that state's because it was three or four months on. It was like a quiet acceptance the way it's use me before he came to here up the cows. It didn't know ways many of those Steven wants to appeal the decision. How did you go about that? We got him Roche self spit loan December. This was faced because he helped me Monja. On the hospital staff. Told us that. Abe is very very cloaks his earth, a probably wouldn't seeing Christmas on January fifteenth is appeal even it wasted that long won't go to, but we have to get a shelves from the hospital to allow them to calm. He boom the appeal hands down. Why do you think they got in these things wrong? It's still liberals of it's hitting this yet. And I think it's a hidden policy on I think the governments are fully aware what's going on. But you don't wish to do anything. I it's coming call of staticy Poesies. It's killing them off. Steve what's being done it if I hadn't gone there was he finished these. It's a simplest. Stephen now receives ASA benefit and has received that pay for miss payments. House within short by the pictures of my constituents Stephen Smith. Here's a even Terry been talking about their case to their local MP Luciana Birger here now sits with the independent reply from the DWP he was readmitted to hospital because he was so unwell and it was only after on intervened. The w overturn their decision of issued never have got to the Birger intends to submit a complaint to the parliament and health service ombudsman in the coming days. Is I was introduced by Gordon. Brown's labour government, the where compassion secretary at the time James panel said gonna the days when writing a sick note is writing people off alive, and we can give disabled people control. So the power is in the hands a revolution in the civil rights of disabled people in this country again delivered by this labor government. What was the idea behind the essay? So new labor introduces BSA two thousand eight this was going to reform incapacity benefit because we all know that in the nineteen eighty s the Tories used IB as a way of massaging down, the unemployment figures, and we know that meant hundreds of thousands of people cast on the scrapheap. So the idea really was that you weren't written off for life. You would link incapacity benefit to your capacity to work. So in principle, you can't really disagree with that. That sounds very positive. Two years later, we have the coalition the coalition decides we can go full speed ahead with ear say saying we're going to reform the outta work benefit system. So this is about one and a half billion people who are on incapacity benefit, it decides it wants to get them as soon as possible onto ESA. So it's going to retest those people very quickly. I tell you people who think that it's a lifestyle choice to just sit on out of work benefits. Not some problems calls is at the same time you've launched an austerity program. So the same department is introducing this big reform of disability benefit is. Also, introducing universal credit. It's also introducing the personal independence payment. It's also introducing the biggest reform of pensions for decades, and it's also causing its workforce by twenty five percents. And you have to ask yourself was there really the energy and capacity to really follow this through proper. Really? So everyone who was on incapacity benefit a new cases needed to attend a work hip ability assessment qualify for ASA, how did the tests work? The first thing you, do you have to fill inform and lots of people say, this is a really long form, it's really complicated form. And it's not really clear exactly what evidence you have to put in with the form to prove your case. Now that will go into the DWP, and they will pass it onto one of their assesses their assesses at the moment. They're employed by the private sector by a company called Maximus. And so you'll be normally invited for face to face interview, and very assessor will carry out various tests, and these assessments could be an office that could be quite difficult to get to. I mean, I remember speaking to people who've got serious mental health issues who said to me, actually, I'm terrified about the idea of getting on the chew been going across. Town in order to get to this test. Is that the sort of thing you hear this comes up all the time that people are saying I've got to go to the nearest Maximus office, and it's thirty miles away. How they're of got no money drive. And then when I get there, I find that. It's not building where there's no wheelchair access and I'm in wheelchair. I'm thinking how can you have a disability assessment? In a building weather is wheelchair access. I mean, these things have happened. What's critics would say the system is is quite insensitive that it's the personalized that it doesn't take into account the various problems and issues that people have and he's actually doing the test medical experts. Well, another controversy is that these generalists. So let's generalists are generalists means that you could be healthcare professionals. So this could mean that you won't strove an ambulance could mean that you're a doctor. I mean, it's probably very rare that your doctor could be your nurse. It could mean your occupation therapies, but what it does mean is. That whoever comes in front of you. It's just a look of the draw who you get. So you might be an occupational therapist. But you may have absolutely no expertise in mental health. But if someone comes before you with mental health problem that you'd know nothing about you will still do that test. And tell me what typically happens to people fairly will discuss your condition, and they will assess you against a set of what descriptors so they will freak Semple. They will test your strength and your dexterity. Can you lift a one pound coin could you lift an orange juice cotton above your head that kind of thing. And then they will compile a report based on this, which will then go into the DWP to the DWP makes the decision based on the assesses test as to whether then you qualify for the essay. To qualify for say you need to score at least fifteen points based on physical and mental assessments has anyone ever measured. The accuracy of these decisions. Last year, the carbons work in pensions committee did a call out and ask people to rights in tell them about their experiences of the work capability assessment, though, they had an astonishing three thousand five hundred people reply a tiny minority said they had a very good experience. The vast majority of them said they were real problems that they are not accurate that they don't capture this Pacific condition that they leave out really important pieces of evidence and information about their condition. And they distort or even lie about their condition. Interesting because almost to Terry he said, his clients often said the reports contain things that simply untrue claims of stays categorically this healthcare professionals in the repose have lied under says, I didn't say that I didn't say the fix there's one assessments way. Okay. Because it what's the claim is war. Fifty leases to these new bills in fifty s as long. These aren't marginal decisions where people may be one point off being fit for work and failing these cases where people are scoring zero points at the assessments, and then finally guess it's tribunal and scoring fifteen points. And you have to ask yourself. Why is there such a big gap between the assessment and the reality? And so it's not just cases like Stephen Smith that make us suspicious about whether these tests are working on all presumably there are figures that give us a sense of it what we do know is that they've been about one point seven million assessments since two thousand thirteen around two hundred sixty thousand have been challenged initially about sixty three thousand of these went to appeal and of those that went to appeal sixty percent were successful. So overall, there was about four percent of cases of all cases have been. Been shown to be wrong at appeal. But of course, the suspicion is that many more people could have or would have gone to appeal if they could have done and would have had a similar outcome. And it's been suggested that some people have taken the road lives after being found fit for work. I think it's really difficult to say an established that people killed themselves as a result of this test. What is clear is that often people who have an pre existing mental health condition incredibly stressed by this back in two thousand fourteen there was a case of a woman with a history of stress related depression who killed herself because benefits would cut after work assessment. Now, it was a health watchdog, but came to that conclusion the mental welfare commission for Scotland they concluded after an investigation that the woman who was in early fifties took her own life less than month after an atoll successor gave her as z. Zero points in a work capability assessment. And as a result her weekly benefits were docks by nearly thirty percent. Ruby idealism a bespoke system that supports people Kathy back into jobs, which they can do. It sounds like in reality. What we have is an incredibly blunt system, which is failing people because it isn't flexible with an aids opinion, so incredibly blunt system, I think it could be more sophisticated to be fair to the DWP. They do try and adapt this every year, they try and make it more sophisticated. I think the worry for many people is that the overriding factor here is cost and one way of keeping the costs down is to make it harder again, sell it. We put a lot of these criticisms to the DWP, and they came out with a statement saying they were committed to making sure people with health conditions get the support are entitled to they said they work closely with test providers and the improvements in the quality of a Cessna had taken place with satisfaction constantly exceeding ninety two percent. They added we have apologized. Mr Smith for the experience he had he is now receiving full ESA support and has received all the money owed to him. But Patrick when people see cases like these when they see the image of an emaciated man, who's been judged fit for work when they know that a government has been pursuing a course of steady, then that I wanna give politicians the benefit of the Dow they believe that that motivations are bad, and essentially this benefit is being used as a stick to punish people. Do you think there's any fairness in that? The worst problem with these kinds of stories around the say is that it just builds up this pervasive culture of mistrust. So I think in some ways politicians themselves to blame. But you have a system here that people don't trust that they are fearful of that. They believe is toxic. Patrick. Thank you very much. After speaking to Patrick, Terry. We approached Maximus is center for health and disability assessments, and they gave us this statement all role is to deliver high quality, sensitive and accurate functional assessments. We have consistently increase satisfaction levels and continue to work in partnership, which guarantees and disabled people's organisations to improve the service further decisions on an individual's benefit eligibility are taken by DWP. And there is rightly an appeal process for those unhappy with a decision. If you want to better understand the country's welfare system than I encourage you to follow Patrick butlers brilliant reporting in the paper and on the website. Coming up as labor says it could support an amendment in favor of a people's vote to stop Brexit in this form, we hear from the guardians politics bay. Welcome back now, Gordon columnist politics and be on that big news last night that labor could now back an amendment in favor of a second referendum. Jeremy Corbyn coming up for people's vote is incredibly significant. I have to say he's was really up against the wall. He had to face his parliamentary party last night. And they would have been in a state of uproar on rebellion. If he had tried to fudge it dodge it yet again up until now, he's managed to say, well, it might be it still on the table, but he seems to assigned it more and more reluctant. But since then a lot has happened. He's had the defection of eight labor MP's, that's quite dramatic. Tom Watson is talk of setting up a social democratic grouping within the labour party at the same time. A lot of stories about really rising tension brewing between McDonnell and Corbin. Who was the oldest of allies bid on the back benches for many of losing battle year after year. But I think that's breaking apart. He was beginning to seem very beleaguered with a small coterie around him of people who were Brexit is. And although he said he voted remain increasingly people suspecting that he was himself a Brexit here and was dragging his heels. So really to come out. No more fudging. And what the overwhelming number of his MP's want. What his party wants what they voted for the last conference and what his voters want to. It's not easy because there are lots of leave seats and some people will be very uncomfortable. But it was his only option he could broken the labor party. If you've got any other way. It's hard to know whether a second referendum will happen. It certainly makes it more likely the people who support a second referendum want it to be the very last option. If her dealers, it's voted down. If the really is nothing else on the table. They want to be able to say let's go back to the people. Let them decide parliament is deadlocked. You can delay withdrawing. But you still got the same deadlocked. Parliament and the very clever amendment put forward by labor impeach Colin. Phil Wilson might just attract quite a lot of support from Tory remains as well. An I think that could be a game changer were they've cleverly put forward in amendment. That says we will not through Theresa May's deal much as we don't like it in exchange for her putting it to the people to confirm to say, this is the. He'll is that what you want, and that's has a very reasonable ring to it that might appeal to both sides. I think it's the best chance is say it was fifty fifty. Corbyn's new position will be quite a game changer. It will unite the party considerably. It will reassure a lot of people who were teetering on the edge of residing. It was even said there was some front benches of his in the shadow cabinet about to resign from the shadow cabinet, not from the party, if he had not come out strongly and said, yes, I will obey the will of our members and make sure that I support in every way I can another referendum. Whatever deal may gets it needs to be put to the people. And I think that does bring a whole lot of very discontented members of his party. He's MP's round to supporting him. Maybe not wholeheartedly. I think they still suspect his heart isn't really in it. They will want to see him campaigning as. Never before on this issue. It is now going to have to be a forefront of everything he says things does. That's all for today. My thanks to Patrick Butler. Terry craven and poly toying bay. Today's episode was produced by Elizabeth Casson and ammo Calia sound design was by axel Kukuchi. The executives are filming not an coal Jackson. See tomorrow.

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Plus he SPN radio is presented by progressive insurance customers switch to progressive can save an average of six hundred and sixty eight dollars call or click today and find out if we could save you hundreds on your car insurance again baba shoes in infra Stephen able to get back to the phones and just a little bit of triple eight say ESPN, but the sun is shining in New York City temperatures approaching fifty degrees and Carl ravaged is going to be at the Yankees opener tomorrow where the mercury is supposed to actually get to the mid fifties. And Carl when there's baseball being played the sun is out, and the temperature is over fifty for those of us that live where we live it feels like it's seventy five degrees outside like what is what what opening day is better than baseball. None. Now, they're really there is not one that's better than baseball, especially in the northeast and be last year. But you know, I drill down there. Still a Yankee Stadium. Finally got within the within about fifty yards of the stadium. Only to hear the game has been cancelled and literally turned around to the snowstor-. So this this is a complete way. But there is no better day. I it's evolved a little bit. It's changed. And I think in the American League only have a certain amount of teams that that really believe they can win. And that's probably true. The National League is a little bit different. And I think you know, way back when our dads were watching opening day meant, it, we go hope and faith, but Lincoln, we all have the chance not not the case this season. I don't I don't believe. Yeah. Obviously, the haves are very very strong in the American League there a few our teams that are kind of pretend haves I guess you could say in the National League let's start with the American League the game. You'll have tomorrow the Yankees. Of course, they seem to be Vegas at least in most books. Odds on favourite to at least make it to the World Series. If not win it. And yet, I don't know. I think that there's an element of health with their rotation. They kind of settled for the secondary guys instead of getting the top stars that were available on the free agent market. And last year the rotation wasn't as good as the Red Sox and this year. I don't think depth wise, especially of sales stays healthy. It's as good as the Red Sox again, obviously their bullpen is amazing. But are they going to be able to just slug their way to the World Series? Even if they're starting pitching, his subpar, or do you think my concerns would be valid if I was looking at the Yankees starting pitching and be able to worry. Yeah. I think that the Red Sox would have an advantage over over all the teeth in the American League when it comes to the starting rotation that is coming health and sales stays healthy and price stays healthy. And course, Elena's and get it in the head by drives like he did the other night exhibition game. But I think you're right. I my first gut reaction to us saying, I'm not so sure is you're from New York, and you you you're a fan you've been exposed. And I know you're a met fan, but you've been exposed to reality and reality suggest in this case, there are some things about the keys that don't don't ring you back to when they were automatically going to the World Series. When when they were the power, there are definitely three powers in the American League now, and I don't I don't put Cleveland in that category. But when James Paxton sane popped up. That was the one guy that I thought could be a difference maker in Houston in Boston and New York in Los Angeles for the dodgers. And the fact that the Yankees got him. I'm all in on Paxton. I think he fits perfectly in this environment. I think he'll be great against the Red Sox or their chief rival in the American League east loves him. And thought that was a great pickup don't think they shop in the Machado and and Harper waters or stores because I don't think they need them. If they didn't go get Stanton. Maybe that's different. But I don't think either one of those guys fit with that organization and the way they were built an I think the Yankees win the American League east they beat out Boston. But I don't think the wild card with the rotations that these teams have Suming their ace's row. K make a big difference in Boston may better be able to deal with the wildcard New York because of that bitching pitching depth belfry those Bob, you know, this they're all in a position to trade deadline or or guys that's going to be a free agent after next year to go out and make that move to solidify themselves right now, there's no question. I'm sure the Yankees could potentially depending on what happens with CC, depending on what happens with Severino. They could be in the market is the season moves on to go out and get another starting pitcher. They could get a j out. Away. Why wouldn't how crazy is the dells? Kyko is not with someone bake. No sense. It makes sense. I know Boris went out and said, look, we're looking at the five or six years may have mistake, but we'll closer and kimbrel. I wouldn't do that. But a guy like Tyco three or four years for sure. But again, the one position that all of these teams that are in either league and are competing for a postseason or World Series berth. I if they don't go and get Dallas Cuko when one of their starters goes down. Then then you really have a problem. I don't understand why he's still out there. But gosh that guy will be absolutely in demand because you know, like, Severino and others starters. Get hurt. You know, there's no question. Although in the American League as sexy as it is to talk about how the Yankees Red Sox are going to slug each other out all the way through the season. And it's going to probably be a great race to see who wins that division. The other TI will most likely be the wildcard wouldn't you love to be the Astros where if you've got some injuries don't worry about it. If you're bullpens a little banged up. You got some guys need a day off don't worry about it. You're going to win your division by fifteen games. If you sleep walk through the season, I think the Astros might be the most dangerous team in the American League. And I think they might be the deepest. A little worried about their starting pitching alliance of young guys the Korea neck injury as I was saying this morning on BUSTER only podcast like there's two things that are not good nothing. Good happens after one AM and any injury. That lingers is just a bad thing. So he's got a lingering issue that created itself last year and where you're going into a season. And there's this lingering neck pain that that's an orange flag for me. That's not read at eight yellow it's orange. There's something going on there for a guy that is middle of the order shortstop on a would-be World Series team. That's a that's a cautionary flag to begin with. So sure is it easier to be in the AL less than it is the AL east. Absolutely. I think Cleveland got problems this year with Minnesota. But beyond those, you know, it's funny. You look at fan graphs or five thirty eight and the American League it's like eighty nine percent chance playoffs Yankees. Eighty six Red Sox. Eighty seven Astros eighty two Indians. And then you drop off the map you get something. Like in the twins down to the forty percent in the National League is very different than that Carl Ravitch with a seer baba shoes and sitting in for Stephen amnesty, even Smith show on ESPN radio. We'll get back to the phones coming up in just a little bit. But rather, of course, is the face and voice of baseball tonight. He'll have the call of Yankees Orioles tomorrow at the stadium on opening day. Well, let's flip over to the nationally real quick because there are many more teams that probably can make the argument that they may be the best in the National League. And there are many more teams that you probably can paint as like a Minnesota Twins esque dark horse in the NFL. So right now, if you had to pick the team, you think will emerge from the National League who would you put your money on right now? Yeah. I put my mom. I think the nationals are separated the nationals than dodgers have separated themselves. And I think the nationals are going to be better for a lot of reasons than they've been, and it's it's not necessarily an addition by subtraction with Harper. But their defense in the outfield is gonna. Be better. I think you've added Corbin there and the bullpen is good. You created an environment there where I think you have a bunch of players who will walk around this year have this spring, San we know who's not here, and we will show you where way bigger than one player. So I think the nationals are the best. I think the dodgers are right there. And then I think after that you could have the Phillies the Braves or the Mets win awhile card or two of them. You could have I think the cubs win the central? You can have the cardinals or the brewers. And I think the pirates are going to be pretty interesting this year win a wildcard and out west clearly the Rockies can do that. So there's an awful lot four teams that find themselves in the fifty to sixty percent chance to make the playoffs versus necessarily the eighty nine to ninety two's. Thank you see in the American League. Yeah. I'm a met fan. So obviously, Anna jet broadcaster. So obviously, I have a just a natural pessimism that grows inside of me like a weed, and I listen, I'll see. Anti on the anti pessimistic guy. I I'm surrounded by the Mets people they last year thought prior injuries. They were they were knocking on the door. I love the degrom signing. I would never give a guy like that away. And I don't care that he could do this next year. Yeah. The the problem with the Mets has been their injuries. It's kind of like the angels. And the Mets are way better than the angels relative to their vegan their division, if they can get healthy and Conforto can hit again and the bull Ted is strong. And those starters comes through. Yeah. They they're an eighty six to eighty nine ninety win team. Now, if the stuff goes bad, and they get hurt and cesspit us never comes back and all that happens. Yeah. You could win eighty games, and that would stink. But I I'm been bullish on the Mets because of those two guys at the top. And I I'll stay that way. Yeah. I guess it seems like every spring were in this position with the Mets. They've got all of the questions, and as a Maxine you're sitting there going, well, all of these questions could turn out to be. S's and it could be two thousand fifteen and you could be sitting there watching them play in late October going. How did we get here? This is a missing I thought this was an eighty one team at the start of the season we're in the World Series. And I and look the Alonzo deal is is it good idea for them. I think this is like a trend here and major league baseball that I think is a recognition that the CBA is going to change down the road while your service time or go to. Yeah, we're gonna to it. It's just asinine to to have a system in which you're at a sense not putting your best players on the field. So you can save a year of their service time later that makes no sense. And that will absolutely addressed that we're at a time now where we should reward the twenty two to twenty six year old player because the thirty two thirty six isn't getting rewarded anymore, and shouldn't so that that will change, and I think to teach junior out in San Diego and and Alonzo here in New York are indications that at least through crystal ball. You can see how this works. World is going to change for the better. I just the most amazing stat that I remember from last season was by far the number one pitcher in baseball ER, a was of course, was Graham, and he won the Cy Young. Because of it the second best ERA collectively in the National League were all of the pitchers that pitched against Jacob degrom and against if you took a guy he went up against in his thirty some odd starts he had like a one. Yes. And his opposing pitchers have like a one ninety RA. They never scored forum. And I'm wondering if I'm supposed to believe that a full season of the McNeil's and the nimmo's of the world, you know, Pete Alonzo is going to be edited this lineup on aging Robbie canot. And all of a sudden they're going to go from a team that last year. I mean couldn't hit water if they fell out of a boat to now try giving these starters some run support. I just and who knows if cesspit is will. At any point this year. I'm I'm working at their lineup. And I'm wondering how I'm supposed to believe they're going to be good enough offensively to surprise everyone and compete with the nationals affiliate sobriety are hard to argue. Although I mean, it is an again if you took it in a vacuum. You're questioning nimmo's ability. You're questioning Alonzo's ability you called canot aging, and he's certainly he's certainly getting older we're not getting any younger, and yet I would think that going into a season and engaged Robinson canot is a really good hitter. You didn't have last year. True. Michael Conforto at the end of the year and during flashes of his career showed. He can be a very good bet. So you could certainly go with the optimistic. Hey, we got canot. We didn't have last year. We have Conforto. That's better. We didn't even know Peter Alonzo was last year. And now that the chance he starts at first base and assessment is thing is is a mystery. And it's frustrating mystery. But they're to me I'll go with. More reasons for optimism and hope that the team doesn't just and look they're a bunch of pitchers, Bob. But you know, this when they go on the mound, whether they're whether they're with a team that is supposed to school runs or don't and you have Clemens on the mound. Many of the Yankees have recognized. Why don't they score when he's on the mound? It happens with other pitchers historically when they are the ace. I don't know the offense just decides with today, we don't need it. If we get one or two we're good instead of going in with the idea. Let's get him six or seven and win the game easily. All let's that may be a frame of mind. You know, your I'm coming around. I mean, if you can't be optimistic on opening day of baseball what day of the year or can you be optimistic? All right now, I'm optimistic Mets gonna win ninety hula brother drink the coolest. I love it. I appreciate Raby have a great call tomorrow. And you know, I'll be watching baseball tonight all year about executive. That's Karl ravage with us here on the Stephen a Smith show on ESPN radio baba shoes sitting. For Stephen a triple eight say ESPN, triple eight seven to nine three seven seven six. The Stephen Smith show is brought to you by private OTC kick, your aunt acid habit with private OTC. We'll get back to the phones. All right now baseball is on the table as well. He won't talk about the NFL rule changes certainly can wanna talk about the NFL draft at brought the giants up and how they may shake the draft up. You could certainly bring up baseball as well because it's opening day. And for anyone that doesn't live where palm trees are just naturally in your front yard like if you live in Miami. Or you live in Arizona you live in southern California. I have a natural. I shouldn't say natural almost like an illogical unnatural hatred towards all of you. Because you get to walk out your front door on a Saturday morning in January, and it's just seventy degrees. You have no idea what baseball means to those of us that live for no reason other than we are somehow ensconced in these places where it's cold we live in these places where the taxes are too high. Where there's too much traffic where the houses cost too much. There's just too many people. It's too loud. And in the wintertime, it's miserable and cold. We have to get through all of that. And how do we get through it opening day baseball? When baseball comes back. I'm totally convinced. That's a big reason why baseball is such a huge sport in cities. Not just the history of it. But in cities like Chicago like Philly like Boston, Saint Louis New York because it means good weather is finally coming back, and it finally is going to happen tomorrow. We're gonna have some sunshine in New York City in a baseball game or to to watch. So we will go back to the phones talk to Dale who joins us next on ESPN radio baba shoes and sitting in for Stephen what's up now. Yeah. You know, I don't agree with your instant replay fire away your days, I dated. But least the last two minutes of the game. When everything's on the line if it means the difference plate win lose a yes. That they would be reviewed which in the NFC championship game. It did. And that's why thirty one out of thirty two teams voted your way. And the Bengals are the only team that voted my way. But again, my question Dale is why do you think this is going to eliminate controversy? Why why do you think at the end of game? But don't you think there's the potential for this to add even more controversy to the ends of these games? Paul Foy could. But what really bothered me was. There was a petition going around and the Rams territory to get at one of the fficials caped off the fish team. And because he supposedly was showing bias when they play again out. I mean that I'm not into conspiracy theories. I don't care that you know to me. That's you know, that that's the lunatic. French I, you know, I I don't think any of those officials in that spot didn't pull out their flag because they've got some bias against the saints or they had bets on the Rams. I I mean that moments like that in the NFC championship game. Bring out the wacko theories. I don't subscribe to any of those. I just think those officials pull the rock in that spot, and they just blew it. Jay joins us next here on ESPN radio. Hello, jake. Hey, bobby. How are you doing time calling in man? It's good to talk. Again, thanks for buzzing. I like this you're passionate about that pass interference. So I just have to things for you real quick number one. It's your opinion on how to fix it. Or should we just left it alone? As far as like, what is there a change that could have been made in not the one that they did. Yeah. Get under the official. That's competent enough at a big spot to throw a flag. That's right. That's me. Like that. That's the thing that I think is the craziest about this. And even if this is only a one year trial balloon, there will be games this year that will be affected, and maybe it will be enough of a controversy multiple games last two minutes, where they'll say, this is just ridiculous, and they'll blow it up after this year, yank it back out, and it won't be something going forward that they're going to use. But you know, to me I don't think we are ever going to see in our lifetime. A call that obvious in that type of spot of that magnitude. Dude blown that way. Again in such a crazy Fabio just. Yeah. It was. Agreed. Yes. Okay. So there may be we get rid of those two officials that we're looking at it. And that's the message to you. Well, the one thing that you that the one thing I would guarantee you is I don't I don't think guys are gonna get fired. And I think I have heard, you know, the Mike Pereira's of the world who certainly are inside the beltway. As far as the officials are concerned. Those guys are to to be an official on the field at the NFC championship game. Understand you needed to grade out the entire season as the best of the best. Those crews are theoretically the best officials the NFL has every single play of every single game from the I position of every single official is graded by the league, and those grades produce the officials that you see in the playoffs. So what you will never see again will be either of those two guys on the field in a championship game. The two guys that had is on that play. And neither of them had the rocks to pull out a flag and throw it. There are not going to be put in that position again because they proved they weren't up to the task. But that doesn't mean the other guys that don't great out. Well aren't. I think ninety nine percent of the officials in the NFL would've pulled out a flag there and thrown it. That's how the call was. So to now alter the way that all of these games could potentially be played at the end of games the last two minutes, especially where you're going to get past interference or non calls the Nisshi aid from the booth. Based on a call. But it was just so mind-numbingly obvious that I I don't think that's circumstances. Coming up again. Maybe I'll be wrong. Triple eight say ESPN, eight eight eight seven two nine three seven seven six you have frequent heartburn like the kind. We have an acid stashed everywhere in case it pops up. 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Now riverine spot running the NFL replay center and making these decisions now has moved over to FOX and is one of their NFL rules analysts, but he joined Freddie and Fitz Simons and had a couple of things to say about where the competition committee has now gone with you know, deciding to involve instant replay an offensive and defensive pass interference. And maybe we could play the first cut guys dean blandino and hear what he had to say about how not that long ago. This was not even. On the table and this one call in the NFC championship game has changed all that. This is the competition committee that is just as recently as two three years ago would adamantly opposed to making these subjective calls review Ables bypassing occurrence. And again, I think one year I liked the idea of a one year experiment in essence that you don't have to vote it out next year. If it doesn't work you can just, you know, not vote it back in. But I think we're gonna see there's a lot of things that they have to vet out. There's a lot of probably someone intended consequences, while the unintended consequences read between the lines that is the replay booth getting involved in a fifty fifty call inside of the last two minutes because the games on the line. There's a twenty yard pass thrown over the middle and at full speed, bang bang. Did the safety get there? Right as the ball arrives. Did he get there a shade early? And we're going to be in soup. For slow MO five minute delay mode to see if there's a game changing pass interference call that. They may go to replay and stick with the call on the field and pick the flag up or or say that they were right to not throw a flag. There is not only the chance for there to be game changing mistakes made there is the chance that at the ends of these games. We could have like total trips back and forth to the replay booth. They could be in and out of the replay booth three or four times in the last two minutes on pass interference calls just because one team or the other with two minutes to go was most likely going to be down in throwing the ball. There will be games. Like that. Mark my words, they'll be games like that. And when that happens, I'm wondering how happy we're all going to be that we completely overreacted to one call in one big spot where one official to officials actually didn't have the stones to throw a flag. And we could have avoided all this. It's gonna brand joins us next here on ESPN radio. Hey, Brandon about good. Hey, I want to let them out completely one hundred percent agree with you. We already have too many pass interference calls then with and the whole point of the replay as you mentioned is defined undisputable evidence, and plain and simple task interference. If I have my arm on your own you can say that. I'm Vicky you catching the ball. Somebody else may not view it as such and overall. I know I think it's mentioning Pandora's box. It really is it now the sudden you're gonna have quarterbacks pointing to the other side of a field after they threw it incomplete passing. Oh, my wide receiver was being held. And then all of a sudden holding is going to be, you know, review -able on offense and defense, and we're just we're giving them too many chances to put the game and the officials hands and like you said over one blown call that is just not going to happen again. Now, we're going to have to be putting Purnell all of these instant, replays or something so simple. Yeah. There is a reason. That they have never put replay into judgment call situations in the past as the reason for that. And I really think this is a very good chance. We're going to find out that reason and maybe after one year, maybe there will be so many terrible ends two games where the replay booth is just way over involved that they'll yank it out. Maybe you're from now won't even be a factor anymore. You know, they may say this just been work and after because they only have it in for one year. If it doesn't work it's not like they have written this into in order for this to happen beyond this coming season. They have to revisit this whole thing next year if they want to make this permanent because right now, this is kind of a one year trial balloon. But even for one year, I don't like the idea of last two minutes of a game every receiver. Right now throws their arms up looking for a flag at the end of every play where they don't catch the ball. Think of how many more times those guys might throw their arms up at the end of every play looking for a flag when they don't come away with the ball when they know by throwing their arms up they can draw the attention of the replay booth. Benjamin's us next here on ESPN radio. What's up then? Hey, bob. I'm this is the first time I've ever gotten into SPN. So this is all welcome to say, you know, I'm a huge football fan. And all the talk of the giants is getting really old because they haven't been relevant since two thousand eleven but he managed completion percentage. Everybody talks about that. Like last year was the greatest of his career Arkley that Barclays touch after catch was eight point seven eight point seven, correct. So people point out that his yards after catch were higher, but without sake one fake, one hundred eighty eighty one catches something like that. But I mean any any quarterback that's got a high completion percentage now in the NFL has it because he's going to running back. He can throw the ball to that's where a high percentage sleep. But that's what I'm saying. That percentage only has to do with the modernization of the NFL has nothing to do with EU is improvement. But I'm just wondering how much you think Levy on is going to help. Out Sam darnold tremendously. And and how excited you are for that. Because I also feel like some quarterbacks do tyrod Taylor. For instance. I feel like he got his success came so much from shorting throwing short balls that he became accustomed to doing it and kinda lost his his his mid accuracy. And Tom Brady's success is largely based on throwing mid range balls. He had rob gronkowski and a bunch of running backs and a bunch of little slot receivers the run all these little option routes. I mean, how often do you think Tom Brady is throwing a ball that travels fifteen yards or more in the air? Most of his success is based on throwing the ball to guys that are within six to eight yards of the line of scrimmage a lot of time to check down in the backfield. Sometimes it's the little seem route to rob gronkowski. But it's the ability to be able to create those mismatches and have a quarterback that can instantaneously identify the mismatch and exploited. I don't penalize you lie Manny, forever and saquon Barkley. And I think Sam darnold is going to benefit tremendously from having on bell. That's an unbelievable security blanket for a quarterback to have especially young quarterback. Check it down. Don't throw it into traffic. Just check it down especially since this is the first time maybe since Freeman McNeil where the jets have had a running back where they could throw a five yard pass to him. And that five yard pass that you're watching on Sunday in the box score. On Monday is a fifty are touchdown. Wow. Look at that. Sam darnold through fifty yard touchdown pass to lady on. Yeah. It's route four yards and Libyan did the rest, I mean Curtis. Martin's in the hall of fame, Kurt it. That was not Curtis. Martin. Curtis. Martin was never a breakaway home run hitting type of a runner. He was caught from behind almost every time. He got into the open field. He just didn't have blazing speed. He was so in believably tough. So inbelievably disciplined always played hurt. You know, so strong yards after contact that was history. But he wasn't this allusive game. Breaking you know, fifty plus yard type potential player lady on bells a home run hitter. And you'd better believe that it's something that every quarterback in the NFL would embrace as being a part of their offense, including the giants will stay on Barclay. Let's go to Mike joins us next here on ESPN radio. Hey, mike. Yes. I've welcome budget had on the on the line doing a great job filling in for Stephen. And I wanted to ask you about the replay. And I think you've hit it right on the head. When you said, it's going to become more complicated. Don't seem gonna they're gonna be more call they're going to be. Be controvercial. I think what data do is just give them four or five replay contestants take the two minutes out of it. Have the coaches have to decide and have it cost him a timeout? Every time you also want to renew a play a colored out to do it. A caller brought this up before. And I don't know if you've heard my explanation, then but I'll give it to you as well. You're Andy Reid. You're the play caller. You're Sean Payton, you're the play caller two minutes to go in a game. Your teams down for you've got one time out left. The clock is running. You're trying to get a couple of plays called. But your quarterback in the huddle. You're trying to manage your substitutions. What personnel packages you on the field? You've got all of this game management. You know, the cacophony of noise in the stadium. All of this is in your orbit in the last two minutes. They wanna take digging the calls right off the plate of the coach. And I understand that. I mean, there are a lot of head coaches that want it. To be like the college deal where there's no challenges just get the call, right? If replay needs to get involved, the booth should buzz down and all of the decisions should come from the booth because I don't really feel like I've got enough to worry about. So certainly what the balanced they've tried to strike is in the last two minutes when you're running hurry up. You know, you're running no huddle. And there's a lot of things to worry about. We're not gonna put that on your plate too. And I understand that CB joins us next here on ESPN radio. See we all do it fail is fair. Fail is fantastic. I love it. But you know, you know, this is strange inefficient when you deal with these flags being thrown and all this in you know, over reviewing place. I think the NFL is fine. I feel bad for New Orleans Saints. You know, I think they haven't got giant. They got jamming. You'll they got screwed. Yeah. There's no question. Yeah. I feel bad for him. But you know, what the Rams only scored three points in the Super Bowl. So you know, it was it was almost like karma. But but but let me tell you Bob, thanks for taking my call. But when when Tom Brady takes the field. There's only one thing that is protect the shield. He's steps for lift he steps to the right, but there's no receiver incite, he checks them. Just as you said. And then go walk come free, and it amazes us to the kiss degree gone power this way, two would-be tacklers in find his way same age how how long does it ain't normally go. I'm just curious. What verse are we in this? Why is this like us on it is this like, you know, like like how how how many verses are in this Paul? No, no, no, no. No, no, this only five more seconds, Bob. Alright compromise stressed with no doubt. Stand up in the strike reediting. Give us shut out to even though. He won his time's up. Sorry CB. My god. Oh, my head hurts the NBA on ESPN radio. Tune in tonight Donovan Mitchell and the jazz host the Lakers, presented by indeed coverage begins at ten P M eastern on most ESPN radio stations as long as you're still with me. And I didn't lose you over the last thirty seconds when you're hiring. You don't wanna waste time sorting through dozens of irrelevant resumes. 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What's in your wallet Babu shoes? And sitting in for Stephen age, just a few more minutes to get some telephone calls in. So we'll squeeze in a few. If we can before the top of the hour. Mike joins us next here on ESPN radio. What's up, Mike? How you doing Bob? Hey, let's say was that the no call that was also made in the Super Bowl. Remember the play member interception that New England caught. The passenger I know coal against the patriots. That was not made. I don't remember that specific player if if the play before the inception. There was a pass interference against England. That was not called the next play was an interception. Yep. Okay. Yeah. I mean, all that's going to be up for debate. Now. If you take a look at yourself, you'll see it was the no call maybe where we're gonna have all kinds of situations. Like that at the end of games now miles joins us next here on ESPN radio, eight miles. Hey, man, taking you got him. All right. I just wanted to say that I pretty much agree with you because oh on the LA round fan but often Jacksonville Florida, but I pick up pretty good about this. So this is what the benefactor of the no call. I was in Vietnam of you know, the the referee. Call them all debt down needed took the ground. So are they going to start going back and reviewing those call it now? Not a hundred percent. Sure, exactly what you said. Let's go to Kyle in Maine joins us next door and ESPN radio. What's up Cal? I'm doing a great job feeling them like always sex. Oh, so I've been going back and forth and my Dallas Cowboys friend. I've got doesn't matter. What I do. I give them numbers. I give him everything to do. With bronze being superior to Jason Witten. How can I get through to him that they doesn't matter that gronk, you know, he says made glass, but what the guy did in eight seasons essentially because he was out for almost the entire season. Completely just is light years ahead of ahead of Jason win. I mean, Jason Whitten's also a great player in a hall of Famer. But if you I would I guess I would say this if you gave any general manager in the history of the sport, knowing what we know now a chance to draft either Jason Witten or rob gronkowski every general manager in the history of the sport, including those in Dallas would draft rock. These better. He's the most dominant player that I've ever seen at that position. Jason Witten is a great player didn't change. How teams defended the Cowboys rob gronkowski changed? How teams approached their draft? Rob gronkowski changed. How teams in the division emphasized safety as a position they knew they needed to spend money on the free agent market or draft. Just because they knew they had to have a way to guard against him as best they could or else. They had no shot to stop them that does it for me. Thanks for all the callers very much. Appreciate you. Giving us buzz today. 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Hour 2: Finals and more Lakers

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Couple of things that I wanted to get into number one. Let's get into the NBA finals for second here. These are gentlemen. I'll make my prediction Thursday. But I'm here to tell you the right now. I misspoke and I misspoke when the Toronto Raptors closed out the Milwaukee Bucks Saturday night. And I talked about how enjoy it while you can because the Toronto Raptors Amine. The won't be no celebrating this. Next round I go back. I'll watch tapes. I watch how they play. I see the things that have transpired. And I gotta tell you something. I don't believe this series is going to be a cakewalk. I believe that the Toronto Raptors have a legitimate legitimate shot to win this series, the Toronto Raptors are no joke. Kawhi Leonard is a superstar in this game. He is extraordinarily because it may be devoid of splash. But boy, I mean he's like a miniature clone of Tim Duncan, just get to done on both ends of the floor model consistency. No history, onyx, gyrations, or anything of the sort. He just does the job. That's what kuwa- Leonard does. He's just on that kind of level. And I think that it's important to recognize that it's important to recognize the fact that would out the services of Kevin Durant without the services of Kevin Durant. Kowa linnet. Gets to preoccupy his attention on somebody else, not that has to be Klay, Thompson, or, or Steph curry. I mean Kawara Linnet is shutdown defender. And if you take away, one of those components, it raises the pressure on the other exponentially. So if you defend the Steph curry, and you do it successfully. Then you've got a situation where you gotta deal with clay. If you defend clay, you do it successfully. Then you've got a situation where you gotta deal with Steph curry. And if somehow someway is able to neutralize folks in that regard, we got a problem. Because we don't know if Katie is going to be back at all. That's why so important that boogie cousins gets back because we know boogie cousins average twenty and ten in the sleep. And you need some formidable offensive component for the Golden State Warriors, I will say this once upon a time. I wasn't. So I'll go to stays bench. I will say that. And then all of a sudden what happened is Kvant looney. Jordan bell, Alfonzo McKinney Quinn, cook you see these guys and how they perform and you say, you know what got to taste. These brothers come off the bench, and they produced gotta give credit where Credit's due. Got to give credit with Credit's due. That's what's going on here. Would to go to say warriors, they're deeper than we thought they were. As soon as it'll be real interested to see. And we pray your credit Kevin the rental come back. I thought it was achilles injury. When it I went down, they say it's a calf you wanna believe him but you still hear that he's not available for games one probably game too, but you're hoping beyond hope and prayer that he's going to be available for game three. K D come back. If katie's eighty percent as far as their and they still win the series. But without that, you just don't know what the hell's going on. So I'm looking at it from that perspective. And I'm saying go to Saint has its work cut out for them. There is no doubt about that. They still win the series. But the raptors are no joke. They play big Tom defense. They've got athletes there long. They can defend. They can't shut down the interior. Which means that the Golden State Warriors, will have to components which are, which is both this specialty, by the way. But they'll have two components that they really need to capitalize off of in this series. Eighty perimeter shooting and be fast breaks up temple. That's what they have to do. You gotta do whatever it takes to get Kawai. Let it off the floor. You can't have Kawhi Leonard. Vibrant for forty plus minutes, you gotta get him tired and get him off the floor. That's what you go have to do. And Steph curry Klay towns, go have to paper reminisce shots Steph curry coming over average thirty six and a half. For the sweep series in the Western Conference finals against the Portland trailblazers. He was absolutely sensational. He plays like that lights out. But if he doesn't and Kawhi Leonard plays like that. Lord have mercy. We don't know what's going to happen. But we can't rule out Toronto. I'm telling you that right now, just can't do it. Just can't do it. We slice. Anyway, went to can't do it. Carl Lowry favorite and lead. Then bleed census kid was born over the last three games of the series. He's shooting eighty two percent for three point range, fourteen to seventeen threes. He's hit. Then bleed has been sensational at Carlisle is played pretty damn good averaging nearly twenty and five. And shooting a good percentage of the field. They have lead for the series of shoot fifty seven percent from three point range. So that kind of production off the bench does not hurt. Norman Powell cannot be underestimated. He's a gunslinger, he's very aggressive. Golden State Warriors you're gonna have to respond the way you did it gets Portland. So that is where we are. This series going to be very interested. I'm not gonna make any predictions until Thursday. But I can tell you this. I think the series is going at least six games. At least six games. It an eight say ESPN that's editing. Seven to nine three seven seven six game six will be in Golden State a game seven we'll be back in Toronto. Which to me, if you're Portland, I'm sorry if you go to state that means you need to win the series in six 'cause you don't want to be in Toronto for game seven nowadays. Now that crowd that would that. I mean, the Canadians did the country. I mean my Lord. As gonna be really interesting to see what's gonna happen in free agency with the clippers the Lakers and beyond. When it comes to Kawai let it because I gotta take some Toronto is a fabulous city. It's got everything. And I mean everything. And when you look at it from that perspective, please understand that if they have everything with the exception of warm weather in Wichita arms. And Kawhi Leonard. I mean is deified in that nation? I mean this is the first time in NBA finals. Vince Carter can take him there. Training, McGrady couldn't take them there. Damore Rosen, obviously could not. When you look at it Toronto Raptors. Let me tell you something. If you're the Toronto Raptors. Guar Leonard just got all to the NBA finals. He can do. No wrong. He passed gas they'll call the perfume. Co why Don restaurants offering a free food for life. That's what he's dealing with in, in Toronto. And it ain't just the city. It's the entire country Canada. I'm just telling you what I know. I mean, when you look at while right now, it is something of a hope he's got a good situation there. He's got a really good situation there in Canada. While leave. Because as great as I think, the clippers are in terms of how they've elevated their brand, and their franchise other than the warm, southern California weather, which is a very significant thing, by the way, and near where Linda grew up. What do you have to offer that messiah, Toronto don't have to offer their franchises winning the Eastern Conference is we could erode the prosperity, therefore would be easier? And you don't have to compete with LeBron in LA for L A's love. And by the way, to love of LA ain't nothing compared to or you shouldn't say it's nothing appeared. But does it does it compare to the love of a nation that is Canada? I mean, I'm just asking. I'm just asking. Ken is a country in another part of North America. Country. Slowly team in the country. The only NBA team in the country. Do you have any idea what Colin's going to have this supposedly people's dissolve? Any idea villa wreck the statute for him outside of the Scotiabank arena tomorrow? So it's gonna be really interesting to see. S Steph curry, there's no, there's no, Kevin Durant, for at least the first couple of games. I believe perfect opportunity. Steph curry to step up in a fashion that some would say he hasn't during NBA finals play. We'll have an opportunity to finally capture NBA finals, MVP honor will he accept that challenge and embrace it? We'll find out it. Eight say ESPN. It's inundate seven to nine three seven seven six. Again, you are listening to live to the Stephen Smith show. ESPN radio ESPN news. The other thing that I want to get to before I went back to the calls was Rich Paul agent, Philip Bron, James. The boss. Clutch sports. Also friend, LeBron James. Which Paul he was mentioned in this article by Baxter homes as well. Excessive privileges riding on the team plane things along that nature. I spoke to Chris Paul this morning. He says Stephen a. I wrote on a team playing one time. They often the arrive back from an east coast trip back out, west 'cause he lives in California. He said that was it of agents of the people friends and beyond full loan on team plays for is respectful. And he talked to any of the players wasn't recruiting anyplace when players come up to him and talk to him. You know, he's not sitting there trying to steal somebody's clients. He's had agents who suspect that they he was trying to do such a thing. He denied any such thing. But he does go about the business of building this business, but he certainly doesn't use those avenues to be inappropriate in his behavior towards having his clientele. He says, in the end they always have something to say they don't come at him. No matter what. He understands that he accepted and it is what it is. And I don't see anything wrong with it. I've written. I've written on a team playing before Larry Brown head coach Philadelphia, seventy. Sixers once took me home on it's equally. It happened once before. If I'm an agent and I represent the biggest superstar in the sport arguably who plays for your franchise. They are perks and privileges that are gonna come along with it happened for David Falk happened for on Tellem happened for Jeff Schwartz. I mean how, how big Tom do you think Jeffs watch was when, when the Brooklyn nets had his client, Jason Kidd, is their coach? And Paul Pierce is a player. Jeff Wexler once represented Alonzo Mourning still does actually. But you know what I'm saying? He parks. I don't know what they don't care. There before representing Michael Jordan. You think he works? Patrick Ewing and to Cambay Matombo and early in the career. Alan Iverson, you think he didn't get any perks? You got your mind. Course there, folks. My brother love him, like a brother. Mom, could you roll? Shacks may security at all. Guess what? You have shack you'd better. Checking to go to war without nowhere, and he stood it. And he shouldn't. See once again, I go back to what I've been trying to explain to y'all about business. We ain't gonna talk about where you're gonna get all up to us to kit. It talks about the way they should be we go talk about the way things are. I'm not going to disarm. Youngsters on a come up black white Latino Asian native American Jews gentile. None of them. We don't tell the truth. We speak the truth. We know the way it should be. Let's talk about the way things are. Those who have the goal make the golden roots. They are has, and there have nots they are perks, and then they're individuals devoid of any. That's the real world. And, oh, by the way, there's a reason why America is considered the greatest country on God's green. Do you know why? While we got that red white, and blue over and over us even when you don't see it. No. Why people risk their lives swimming, and ocean to get to this nation. Do you know why? Because of the hope of prosperity. The fact that you have an opportunity to exceed your wildest dreams and expectations to achieve beyond measure to do things that will once deemed the fantasy. In america. In this country. Your dreams can come true. Or you could plummet. There's no such thing is everybody has because everyone's entitled everyone eighty title you might be entitled to some things basic things just public education, this private education. This chartered education, this Catholic education. This poor poverty deprivation. There's lower middle class middle class. There's the a fluid upper class, this rich, and then there's wealth. Which, what are you going to be, which would have you determined to be America? So why are we sweating? It. With somebody comes along. And they found themselves in a position will ultimately, they opportunity to shine and the reap the benefits of their labor comes to fruition. Let me tell you something. There are couple of things I don't like about LeBron James. You ain't go. See us having lunch dinner together singing kun-bae job with one another. I can promise you that. But when I tell you I love that brother. I mean it. Because when I say, I love him. Why speak about love in the same breath is Rich Paul or Magic Johnson or the Goodwin brothers or Bill Duffy or the late Hank? Thomas, Henry Thomas, the agent, A D. Wade in Boston, others, God rest, his wonderful. So what a fantastic agency was an even better man. Former ages like Bill Strickland. When I sit up the speak about guys like this. When I look at them move south of a side Jiri, the president for the Toronto Raptors franchise. You know what it did to my heart to see that brother chief this? To see his family descend from the rafters to come down tears streaming down their face all hugging, and kissing him. So happy for him. You know what it meant to him to get to this point? It's very, very simple. It comes from a certain place. Ladies and gentlemen. The reason why there's loved it. It's not about the individual. Is about what they represent. Lebron is not perfect not mice. One of the best people I've ever known. He just annoys me with his fixation on trying to control the narrative that's no crime is just an error ten. It doesn't take away from what grade at. Well, how great of a person he is what a great role model is the way. Wait, one of the best human beings, I've ever met in my life. Kobe Bryant and assassin personified whose intellect is off the chart. Not this show to brilliant. Speaks multiple languages. A businessman, only guy, no champion five times over and Oscar winner. She kilo Neil. Four time champion. His philanthropy, the soul that his mama and the saw God rested, so instilled in that brother. You can't find a person with a better soul and she killing you. That's why of all his nickname's Aristotle and, you know, the big Aristotle and all of this other stuff my favorite nickname for Shaquille, O'Neal shack a clause. Because that's what he really wants to be. He wants to be Santa Claus to everybody. Just to extend a helping hand. Barkley just hung out with him the other day. All he wants to do is make everybody smile. Bind drinks and all this other stuff, part and talking and all this other, you know what Charles Barkley loves to do make people happy. Just one of the most thoughtful, conman people. You live. I'm honest straightforward. I can relate to that some ties it puts people off. I get that great soul. Michael Jordan vista. You know y'all wanna talk about him in wonder about his contributions. You have any idea what Michael Jordan does behind the scenes. Do you have any idea how many people he's lifted up and employed? And it's carried along with him, just like LeBron James is doing now. It's not about them as the individual say loving them. It's loving what they put them on what they represent what they mean to communities throughout this nation that are that come from a depraved and desolate environment. They don't have to be that way. They chose to be that way. And it is my opinion that God picked them to be that way. This soldiers of God himself, because they're heart is bigger than we could ever measure. When I look at Rich Paul, I look at Rich Paul. When I look at Eric, Erin. And I look at Bill Duffy, and I look at the brothers that have been in this industry. That's not to say that there's a whole bunch of white folks aren't the same because they are. And I'm not one of those people. Oh, just because you're not black. You must have better. Tits BS wonderful, wonderful people, I know who happen to be black. Fair-minded, God, fair and decent people fall. We know rob Pelinka could be that guy in a whole bunch of people align on for crying out loud. I don't know. But what I'm saying is. Will you look at somebody like a Rich Paul? What's selling t shirts out of the trunk of a car? Now one of the premier agents in this business when you look at maverick Carter. You have any idea how brilliant that brothers. How respect that he is in the community and the business community. What he's doing behind the scenes to make things happen for the LeBron James Bryant. Even the guy like Randy minutes. Lebron friend, right hand, personal sister caller, whatever you want. He'll Dafur that brother. Loyal and about money. Is about his love for his friend. When I say, I got love for people I could be critical of them. In what they do not who they are. We talk about Rich Paul here. You got people that want to, to view him like he some damn criminal or something. It's beyond the pale. Ages can have a problem they can compete and have a problem with perfectly understandable. If an executive wants us to be perfectly understandable. Even though I haven't heard any who at. But when I look at all of these people, and all things is not just LeBron James, and his crew is not just the Goodwin brothers in this, crews out just Duffy and his crew is not just executives like magic in Michael, and I'd say and others it's not it's not just there. There's a whole bunch of people. The came from nothing. And built themselves into something. Where else do you know you can pull that off, then then in the United States of America? It's what makes this country. Great. That's what we should all as what we do all spy, for, and along the lines. You ruffle feathers. And along the lines you going forward. You gotta step over somebody to get there. I didn't say backstab, I said, step off or walk through sometimes that's necessary because somebody's got to be the best. Somebody's got to be the best. In these people. Have made it part of their life's mission pull that off. I see nothing wrong with that, where Rich Paul. I see nothing wrong with that with Magic Johnson. I see nothing that we're wrong. Lebron james. I see nothing wrong with them. Then buddy. Those who do see something wrong with it. Maybe it's because they're not the ones winning. It. Eight say ESPN, that's eight seven to nine three seven seven six. Back to your calls or more than a minute. You listen laughter. Stephen Smith show. Here's been radio. Here's news, by the way, life's special events, call for a beautiful bouquet from one eight hundred flowers dot com. Right now, when you order it doesn't go Bevere daisies for twenty nine hundred now you'll also get a free vase for details. Go to one eight hundred flowers dot com slash ESPN. Guys, have you heard the news to compose, Joel Embiid, and Damian Lillard at all getting paid lots of money? I'm not breaking news there. Athletes. Right. Well, it's not for their talents on the court, Hulu is giving them Bolos of cash to shamelessly promote that who has live sports did, you know, Janas is the only player to ever get a signature slipper deal. And that Joel changes nickname from the process to Hulu has lots ports. Damian even got a tattoo saying who has live sports who's got some of the NBA's best players. Do some pretty crazy stuff. Seriously? These guys have no shame. And now they're selling out for Hulu. But I got admit kind kinda working. Why would you want to keep paying so much for cable when you can watch some of the hottest games on Hulu, plus live TV, it's the same channels cable for only forty five bucks a month? Good deal. Right. You can watch your favorite teams play live all season long. No cable required. So start your free trial of Hulu today. Love TV plan required. Restrictions apply. Learn more Hulu dot com. Man, I wish I could have appear those slippers while I'm watching the playoffs. Geico presents yet. Another voicemail from your roommate. About the kitchen turns out, when there's a grease fire, you're not supposed to throw water on it. Wouldn't own right? Anyways, the fire department is here and it's totally cool. Can call back when you get a chance. The Geico insurance agency could help keep your personal property protected like if danger is your roommates middle name, visit Geico dot com to see how easy it is to switch and save on renter's insurance. You'll see to the Stephen Smith show podcast. One of the things I will concede here as well as that reading this article great job by backs to homes for ESPN dot com. He did say here. There is a very, very interesting graph in here, Rich Paul was never really a fan of Luke Walton is no surprise there. But it says here in November NBA Commissioner Adam silver, and maverick KADO, LeBron's longtime business partner and friend met for lunch. James agent Rich Paul was seated at a nearby table. And at one point approached silver to complain about Luke Walton multiple sources familiar with the interaction Toda. Yes. Polls said he didn't believe Walton was the right coach for the Lakers Silva, shrugged off to remote and asked whom Paul thought would be the right coach Paul suggested Tyron Lou. It at eight say ESPN, eight seven to nine three seven seven six. Stephen Smith show on ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Quote by and save on home insurance. Progressives new homequote explorer, only at progressive dot com. Back to the phones we go. Chris alive. Stephen talk to me. Hasty mango talking to you again through quick. I wanted to commend you for what you said before the break, I one thousand what you said. And I it's, it's an honor to hear you say that because I got like myself trying to get a door over for him and opportunities come knocking. Sometimes you have to figure out how to get there, but adore does over. You gotta take an opportunity like on like it. But you continue to strive and do what you can the best for yourself and your family, so remain. Backstabbing anybody you find as long as, as long as you quieted ethically? It's alright. Absolutely. I tell people all the time today, you're not gonna be going to stop what God has for me. Rather I you helped me? You don't help me. I'm Jay doesn't stop. So I just wanted to reach out to you and let you know about that. But real quick. I want us to talk about what you said about, as far as the whole Magic Johnson thing. I just think that it's, it's, it's sad to hear that Steven A and I'm the by Stephen to here. I'm sorry. It's sad to hear. What about about people not wanting to work hard and not having to say mindset, the mentality that magic one in people and people use excuses, saying that magic is this magic is that, and I'm like you should be grateful for the opportunity working with Lakers, 'cause myself, I was ever given opportunity to work for the Lakers. Sign me up Stephen, I'm ready to I'm ready to work today. I'm look for doors. Open up people are saying that they don't like the boss and all that stuff. I mean, what were living they wanna make their own schedules to some believable. I wanna point there will came brought this up in terms of Magic Johnson not being one hundred and fifty percent in the door, and we'll Kane is not wrong and bringing out that question. He's not wrong at all the only that I have is that you sign an agreement with the Los Angeles Lakers in Jeanie Buss. You made it very, very clear what your role would be. She saw doll on it. Not only that, basically had your staff picked for you. She said, these people are not going anywhere. So essentially, we have all the pieces in place. Well, we need is the face of a franchise to serve as an overseer to approve major basketball decisions if that's what he did why the hell does he need to be there every day? And if you rob Pelinka and you saying, and you're intimating not to say 'cause he denied it. But if there's any truth to the allegations that he was trying to intimate that Magic Johnson was asleep on a job. Well, this is the same rob Lincoln that magic since he left. He and I have talked we've communicated, there's no problem reach Magic Johnson. So. Which one is it? How is it that you can reach him when he wasn't on, on a job? But when he was the president of basketball, operations suddenly, you can reach him. So there's a lot of holes in these stories, depending on who you believe. Right. Right. Absolutely. I agree with outstanding doing a sitdown with magic and Mike world. But I forget who else on the show, but as we're can Christmas. I'll be ready for the Lakers. But real quick Steve name as far as the finals. I'm not sure if, if I got a prediction from you, but. Prediction until Thursday. But go ahead Thursday. Got it got. Okay. I just I think Toronto has a shot Stephen aim. But you can't tell me that you can have Fred de flea collar on the Florida close the game against the warriors. I don't. I, I don't see what direction, Nick, nurses gonna go. And I think that Mark the Saul is going to be live -bility 'cause I don't think nurse can start the Saul in series Steve name. Well, he my head also you saying that, I'm gonna tell you what a big problem. The big problem lies with Danny green. If he could tell you shoot the ball the way that he shot the boy he was like, oh for seven over the last two games, did not offensively. I love Danny green. He's got to step up and play bed. He's got basketball better. It's got to do that. He can't do that. Then you have to go mall with leading Lowry if they're making shots. And that is where your challenge lies. Of course one thousand percent. But how, how do they defend that backward on the other end? It would. I'm just saying that you have Danny green out there for two reasons, his ability to defend and hip perimeter shots, if he's not hitting shots, then sometimes you're willing to sacrifice him to put guys on the floor who are making shots, but they're miniature which would compromise you defensively. So that's a problem that Nick nurses, hoping not to have to deal with, and that's somewhat resolved. If Danny green hit shots. Absolutely. But he had that series again. But we'll see what happens to Stephen. I can't wait to hear your predicting talking. Thanks a lot bro pre sheet it. Let's go to Jason. You live Stephen. They talked to me. What's up Jason? Hey, hey pleasure. I enjoy doing your work, and I appreciate all you do. I just want to ask you since all so many people, including yourself have ruined the process, and then let it complete. How did it feel semi Sixers actually when a title and to the end what do you mean ruin the process? Well, you guys you guys hope Adam silver step in and basically stop. Guys. That's true. That's true. But let me ask you a question. Was Joel hill and beat a part of the process. Yeah. Was been a part of the process. They were but they when was done. I asked the questions was been seen as a part of the process is was more helpful to part of the process. No. He was not. Nope. No, no. Hey, was overall. Don't don't play with me. You'll get a dial tone. Don't play with it. You brought up the process was Michael Carter Williams, part of the process. They were. So my point to you is they will only part of the process to-to do to going one do don't have a jump shot and other dues perpetually edge. So who's to say that we that that anybody was wrong to impede the process when the process was fossil flawless? Finishes his work. You know, we I don't think I think he probably would have got Marcal FOX. He might have got Jason Tatum, or somebody out the socks. You know what I mean? He might have been about much tougher. That is a good point in your part. He might not have gotten hoodwink light Colangelo by swapping three and the number one overall pick what Boston and take him all kill full with the first overall pick instead of Jason Tatum. That's a very good point in your part, Jason very good point. But I just like wants to know what can we do to it? Like good forgave is like Brian. I I I you continue to contend I think that the best thing to happen to you guys. Jason was you losing away. You lost F A joylin being killing off the court and prior cry. Like a baby in the hallway with everybody watching, I think the best thing ever happened because I think that joylin be grew up at night. And I think it hurt him that bad that he gonna stop playing around and start being the dominant presence that he is that he could be I think you're gonna see a better version of Joel Embiid looking forward. And I would tell you the Delfi looked out if I'm been simmered I don't do anything but work on my job. Because he has no weakness, as far as Benson's gonna jump shot this, LeBron James part to I'm telling you right now. Is that great if he gets jump shot, these, these job shot and Joel Embiid needs to work on his post game and staying healthy? I gotta go man. I appreciate the call. Let's go to rob it real quick. You live even real quick, Robert go. Got to cut you. Gotta stop getting. You're still telling everyone that. Brilliant business more than this. Intelligent woman. Everybody could be. I. The business. Evan. Day. Picket now you nitpicking I'm talking about her as a business woman, making money for the Lakers franchise. I'm not talking about basketball. They've been making money for the Lakers franchise for many years. What it was established my father it didn't dissipate, but so much under her stewardship in terms of the brand making money. That's all I met by that. Don't get all technical with that, because that's not what we really care about when it comes to genie. What's your point real quick? Oh, he dropped sorry, and then they'd say ESPN we're going to get out of here, but not before we get to your calls in a minute to close out the show with Stephen ESPN radio ESPN news. If you missed any of today's show, check it out on demand. And this Misbach as brought to you by Capital, One Capital, One is reimagining banking offering a counselor. No female minimums, that can be opened. Five minutes, Capital One. Hey, hey, what's in your wallet? Capita one NA member FDIC. Guess what? You're in the middle of a Stephen swift show podcast. Dammit. Needs to a game. Download the app and to promo code champs. At checkout to get ten percent off your first order. Don't buy anything get a vivid seat back to the phones we go make it quick. I gotta get on outta here. Make it very quick. Ladies and gentlemen, back to you guys Jose Alava Stephen, they go. Yes, you're on the air. Go your husky remain on, I'm gonna make these little quick, if you were Jeanie, Buss, basically, with everything that's coming out with the Lakers that you just fire rock, linka, and start over from the beginning, or just go on while let's he's out of relationship was rob linka spent years. And I'm not gonna advocate that he get fired. I just don't think they he should be in charge of basketball operations. You have to prove that you can cultivate relationships necessary to do, good business on behalf of the Lakers, and I don't know if he's in a position to do that with his reputation appreciate the call Robert July. Stephen a real quick, Robert go. Hey, steven. Thanks for having me on the show. Buddy question couple of years ago, Kevin Durant was a free age of the dog about possibly going back on the plane with the wizards, though, the wizards and Kevin Durant have no desire of no, they can't do any they can't do anything now. They gave John wall. A hundred seventy million. You got Bradley Beal in the midst of one hundred and thirty eight million dollars. Contract, who's imposition now to get. He's not in a position to get the supermax because he didn't make one of the all NBA teams but he can still get an exorbitant amount of money. They don't have the means to get Kevin Durant. So that's a foregone conclusion appreciate the call Quinton July. Stephen a real quick. Go. Stephen, they would've the whizzes actually got a tray with the Lakers, and trade it in Lincoln traitor. Brian England, Josh hot on the full pick for Brandon Ingram in for a brand Bill. Well, that's what they tried to do. I don't know if that's the specific deal. But LeBron James has been talking Bradley Beal from what I've been told and I can tell you, he would love to have Bradley Beal on the squad. And I can tell you that the Washington Wizards from what I'm hearing may consider making that move 'cause they know they ain't going anywhere with the team is presently constructed whoever the president of basketball, operations is going to be recognized that, you know what you can't have both of those guys because they're not going to be enough to get it done for you. That's pretty much the situation that the Washington Wizards in right now. So trust you me the Lakers. Lebron James in particular would love to have Bradley Beal, particularly as a third wheel. If you could get another star play with LeBron James, and you get Bradley Beal who is a brat. He's a bad brother. I love Bradley Beal, he could do some things for you. All right. Is just as simple. I gotta get on outta here. I will be back Thursday because I'm headed my special tonight me magic, doc and Michael wilpon seven PM eastern on ESPN talk to you. 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Colin "Kunta Kinte" Kaepernick Vs. The NFL And Steve A. Smith

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Colin "Kunta Kinte" Kaepernick Vs. The NFL And Steve A. Smith

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That's what we're discussing that controversy over the weekend surrounding him in the NFL or the twenty. Wait a minute morning show for Tuesday November nineteen the. What do Y'all think about Colin Kaepernick changing venues for his NFL tryout? On this past Saturday I thought it was a brilliant move on his part without I do too. I agree because I think a quite honest when they do things like that. It's usually on a Tuesday after her again where people can really come out. It was kind of a set of like. Yeah we'RE GONNA pee some of them but we're really not going to do because a lot of the NFL pill people that would feed to look at him. Weren't even going to be there. It was a joke and I think he He pulled it on them. Like okay go set up and let me tell you what I yeah I believe he knew it was all the fourth but he was willing to go along with it if it was somewhat fair it none of it was fair but he was willing to go along with. They didn't play their game and then they just got so outrageous. That's how much they hate Colin Kaepernick that they couldn't even go along with it straight far him. How so so much and I'm GonNa tell you another person that I can't stand now? I can't stand Stephen a Smith from. ESPN he is just gone overboard in his allegiance agents to what he says and he act like he was personally pets. I've seen him too dramatic Jason at the annual realized that was one of the things but he had he had a personal permit. Everybody's talking about he wants to play football. He wants to play football. He's ready to play. Just give them the chance. I have no doubt Jay Z's involved have no doubt Roger Goodell is involved. I have no doubt there's a host the people bobble forget all of that this man one of the chance twenty five teams show up in Georgia at the Atlanta Falcons practice facility stated off facility. NFL PERSO- now equipment. Everything video video everything. And what does Colin Cabinet do like. ooh Do right. Because he's number. One sportscaster paid eight sportscaster now He's GonNa earn his keep method. Smith percival say this and I don't even want to hear your mouth. Stephen Smith roots are in the Virgin Islands. So that's a whole nother conversation in itself. He's not tied for American slavery He doesn't feel the same way we feel about how Racism in this country and number you know number. Two Colin Kaepernick is fighting for equality. Stephen a Smith doesn't want equality because if we have equality that maize is going to be other black people on the same level is him. He doesn't want that he wants to be the only Nigga in the room. Coach Stephen a Oh yeah I agree with that. I won't even try to challenge you on divergent honest thing. I know you went to Winston Salem State University and they don't even want to claim them a he the way he was attacking him cabinet and Eric Recall know. If y'all saw the tweet that they were going back and forth I haven't got involved and their tweet. And between him and Eric Reed and put up a caption of of what's the Guy Stephen. From Django Samuel Jackson. That's Stephen They saw this to black America. He is the Django character because he always makes sure that White America White Corporate America knows that. I'm not we've got the name from now. Did he get it from Stephen Smith. I'm pretty with done it and in one afternoon inside of three hours. He threw it all away as far as I'm concerned it looks like he really didn't want to play in the national football league. It looked like he had a different agenda. And I don't know if that's true or not I'm talking about appearances and when it comes to Colin Kaepernick. Unfortunately that matters you know I actually used I like I like that. He had that fight's good but then More more became at like Joe every time it was something that blacks relax try to do for themselves. He had the problem with it right. You know He was the one of the voices. I'll know what the kneeling controversy I. I think they're out of play football. This is not a place and it was like wow do do you understand what is about. And I'm sorry to say it but I really like Wasn't it used to be a linebacker for the Ravens. embracement right on race. Lewis Hi you lay Ray Lewis. I used juiced. I said I used to like Ray Lewis. Thank you but acting bojangles and stuck up down behind that thing I was like dude. Who are you and then I realized you try to make your money because you try to get on air so you gotta sell this procession that all I with right? Colin Kaepernick wore a shirt stephen where toby shirt one of the things that Colin Kaepernick said he wanted to film this and the NFL said No. We're going to be the only one to film and so a Colin Kaepernick like see he's showing you. What a free black man? How you should act how? He should present himself himself. You don't have to bow down to the NFL. And what he's doing this showing the other young black quarterbacks that you don't have to do what they command manner you to do. You need you more than you need them. They need your talent. Colin Kaepernick is fighting for equality. He's not fighting for opportunity and ask what people like Stephen. A Smith doesn't understand because he was very upset about Colin Kaepernick wearing that shirt. Your Big Mad about Colin Kaepernick wearing a coup to. Kim Tastes taste shirt. But you're not going to be a call owners you can be massell. I cannot be placed on that same subject. Matter did anybody the game between Cleveland Hitler and the last two minutes of the game. Yes Sir I show did. Here's aw saluting what in the warriors ores lead Myles Garrett Muhammad piece of Jackson's coming out of this piece in suspension. Six right suspensions more races. Okay here's the thing and I must say David. I want to say this to someone can hit. That quarterback started to crack glad. He tried to rip off his helmet. The amount that there's been another the linebacker and saying he needs he needs to be going believes the scientists white care started that crackdown. Dry White privilege now. All of a sudden this little white quarterback split you start big mess but you can't get village on somebody. Nobody wants to finish it yet. bullcrap they met at a brother 'cause he wanted wanted to finish it. He was trying to take his helmet off. And there's no telling what he you were saying to Myles Garrett when they were down there then they got up the to Pittsburgh guys got in front of him then he comes back yeah he was moving back and then Bam I mean I was. You know I'm not a four. You use your helmet as a weapon but dammit you know what I'm saying when you out there you're yeah man because if you got three Pittsburgh still a player attacking you and why shouldn't you be able to use your helmet. Say at least one of them the want the whole thing. What what it was it took until he was in retreat at the quarterback is so big and bad? He WanNA come attack. Zack got hit. That's the problem it's you did like quote the. NFL backed off the situation. That would never happen. But don't you think the bottom line is everybody has to be suspended including Ruto and what Rudolph is not. He's not getting any time. He's not getting any consideration and they tried to press rav to press charges against myles Garrett and miles actually this cool who in their right now I will be attacked and not defend themselves who a three game suspension and a fine but pal. Let's see kicked the boy and ahead. He killed in the head while he was on the ground and attacked him. But you know what I didn't get only. He only got three a three game suspension. Because he he was protecting that white quarterback with the help of whatever it is. Can you remember being that angry. Football field now black black down you remember it really. I play I kid violet for the sport but on the field I was always talked to. If you're going to be bitten mon you got to be ready to deal with the consequences. I was alive. I dare quarterback you WANNA fight. I promise you in Recife in trying to trying to step up with the big board. But you want to be a big deal and you need to handle treat it like a big man little little sissy quarterback oh he got the ruse okay he wants. He stepped out at quarterback. While at that moment he wanted to step up. Let it tells you oh you ready to charge you. When when two people to play holding them back I wish they would? I wish they wouldn't have been holding combat right. You Got US man. We talk about a whole new category rest in peace to the quarterback. Yeah I'm not saying that's the tongue in cheek. Say this will also if all coons don't stand up. Now you're right on everything you've said I'm GONNA say Sean Right because their own say these gentlemen and NFL me to stand behind the line in this because no should hit somebody with a helmet. I agree with that but he was really treat moat. He was being attacked. He ended himself. They shouldn't allow myles Garrett to be the only one penalized and Rudolf not get any time out of the suspension. You know what I'm saying. Everybody Got August spill. I don't think the linebackers any tar heels. The family. Everybody has to get time for that. Extremely violent island at it was extremely violent. Use your helmet against another player. That's a no no but you can't do can't are- players are attacking you this. y'All can't use something to at least offer you let me be clear on Myles Garrett side I'm saying don't let Rudolph get get away with not serving any suspension tower even if it's three to four games definite suspension buffum to ain't ever get back into the league back in the League but to be the one that started the time that was the quarterback for the steelers for the rest of the year. It's not not saying you. You're not being saying Lucre when you're not being sane. Everybody should be suspended everybody. Everybody should get suspended. Not just one person not just three everybody involved including the quarterbacks if you like the most that's just walking down the street and somebody attack you and you and you bust one of would it be a bottle that's all y'all should be arrested but they attack me. Well you should hit head. Would it be about but they was attacking me okay well in the NFL. It is against the rules for you to use your helmet as a weapon. That is clear automatic ejection action okay. So we talked about on the street. Somebody at three people attacking happen. You allow you on the street. You have a self defense clause but not in a football game on on the plane yourself self. That football game. No I'm saying. Use your helmet as a weapon is what I'm saying. This is not attacking you. You should be able hotel can can I. Can I tell you this much. He's he gave on much force was given the gentlemen tried to snatch his at all but he just happened to be bigger and better and could do it so that actually ended hand was actually reasonable. According to what would is being brought to him now. Did you not see la. They were on the ground of a quarterback which is absolutely okay. So so he'll take all was really and defense of the guy tried to take it from what happened while he was retreating. The quarterback move forward and he kinda was like you know. I don't think it was a service. I started video just video radio Sunday any also appeared that he kicked him in the groin. Right now oh down. He added with his hand and then he kicked him in the great walk. Right in going twice okay. This is listen. Listen to what I'm saying. All I'm saying is that both all the parties involved in that fight according to NFL rules and guidelines should get suspended period. Ministy I lost my cool. It's GonNa it's GONNA come back to their team. The guys who who jumped into the little scrum Tom. I appreciate now my my back but it's never get to that point. That's how do you feel you played the final game of the season tonight. No clue in something that we started this Google now not going on but to let Rudolph get away. Hey with not doing. Any time is wrong. If a Maoz Gary Guts spin it Rudolph's started God only the NFL is reiterating. That white man cannot commit a crime against the black man regardless of what he does to. PJ can actually the question but do you not feel bet. Rudolph start at the should get more of the violation than the individual that received it. I think it should be still. I think it should be considered just as weighty as you do they're doing for Myles Garrett it because again. This was a altercation that he provoked so just because helmet off on the ground. You don't have any people could have just because he was on the ground with been able to take it off and just because he didn't swing a helmet doesn't mean he's not as culpable myles. Garrett is I'm sure a lawyer if he's got a good one they could make a case for this the balanced thing but right now is one sided against myles. Garrett is it's not fair you want on me when he was always the element the quarterback for the steelers really suspended for what he did. 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