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"stephen hayes" Discussed on The Michael Berry Show

The Michael Berry Show

01:32 min | Last month

"stephen hayes" Discussed on The Michael Berry Show

"The. Population could even consider well, wait you have strategic avoidance of liquidity events. In order in order to avoid taxes, which means that the traditional economic activity. It is is being stifled a whole with us for just a moment we're talking to. Stephen Hayes. About taxation he's with Americans for fair taxation, you can find them online at fair tax.

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"stephen hayes" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

Newsradio 970 WFLA

03:39 min | 1 year ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on Newsradio 970 WFLA

"Stephen Hayes and David French all those in our role leaders you know that that that hated trump you know this guy is governed as I I went out on a limb and said he's gonna govern conservatively I've known this guy for twenty some odd years member I I put it all on the line like I always do right Obama we've we did the work of everybody else a listening are you just gonna ignore me S. plus I'm listening I'm letting you finish your thought so I guess they're starting some other group they left an RO whatever I you know I just look it is road kill failure for all of those guys and I I have nothing against them I don't do you know what some of them are smart some of the make great points I don't care that they don't like Donald Trump I don't care if they don't see his conservative style I don't care that they look down on talk radio and maybe and fox I don't care and I am listening a little bit somebody sent me a clip of Joan is on some guys radio shows libertarian it sounds Martin nice and you know I have nothing against like I either by the way the trying to say I'm I don't like Howard Stern actually love Howard Stern I just think the old Howard would have supported trump I couldn't believe the Hillary thing yesterday and but anyway every single thing these guys have been involved in sales the weekly standard was subsidized and it failed spectacularly bill Kristol and company and I don't wish my success is not predicated on anybody else's success or failure it's not I I want I kinda look if we agree eighty percent of the time and you don't like trump style or my style or what don't then okay well we agree on the other eighty percent I have friends that don't like the president I don't care I still like Lanny Davis and I hate Lanny Davis is political views what's well you know we like our friend what's his name from Chicago the bulls school of economics which is what I think will be Austin will be supporting bush to judge by the way which cracks me up no he's not yes I swear it's okay everyone when they walk into the booth makes their own personal decision I don't care what they say about now that's probably true I'm but I'm what I'm listening they're such in a lead isn't even within Republican ranks there's never been a president judges largest tax cut ending burdensome regulation finding money for the wall getting better trade deals yeah free and fair and he deals eliminating the caliphate in not in in Syria because he took off the hand counts in the rules of engagement you know what there's two hundred ninety accomplishments Washington examiners found out doesn't matter what he does we hated we're smarter we're better how can they keep failing and beg me when their books come out to be on the show you know this is news radio WFLA and I heart radio station good afternoon I'm Felix thing our top story of four thirty wildlife officials are using the hype of the upcoming Super Bowl in Miami get more people involved in removing some of the hundred and fifty thousand python slithering through the Florida Everglades there's a lot of interest in this not just in Florida but people in other states and even in other countries want to be able to come and help with python removal going around a Santa's there is announcing a ten day python bowl kicking on January tenth bass pro shops will provide cash prizes for python hunters to capture the heaviest longest and the most pythons the non native snakes are blamed for disrupting the food chain and the throughout the Everglades let's take a turn now to get a check on traffic.

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"stephen hayes" Discussed on 710 WOR

710 WOR

02:44 min | 1 year ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on 710 WOR

"I guess what's his name Jonah Goldberg and Stephen Hayes and David French all those in our role leaders you know that that that hated trump you know this guy is governed as I I went out on a limb and said he's gonna govern conservatively I've known this guy for twenty some odd years member I I put it all on the line like I always do right Obama we've we did the work of everybody else a listening are you just gonna ignore me S. plus I'm listening I'm letting you finish your thought so I guess they're starting some other group they left an RO whatever I you know I just look it is road kill failure for all of those guys I I have nothing against them I don't do you know what some of them are smart some of the make great points I don't care that they don't like Donald Trump I don't care if they don't see his conservative style I don't care that they look down on talk radio and maybe and fox I don't care and I am listening a little bit somebody sent me a clip of Joan is on some guys radio shows libertarian sounds Martin nice and you know I have nothing against like I either by the way the trying to say I'm I don't like Howard Stern actually love Howard Stern I just think the old Howard would have supported trump I couldn't believe the Hillary thing yesterday and but anyway every single thing these guys have been involved in sales the weekly standard was subsidized and it failed spectacularly bill Kristol and company and I don't wish my success is not predicated on anybody else's success or failure it's not I I want I kinda look if we agree eighty percent of the time and you don't like trump style or my style or what fun don't then okay well we agree on the other eighty percent I have friends that don't like the president I don't care I still like Lanny Davis and I hate Lanny Davis is political views what's well you know we like our friend what's his name from Chicago the bulls school of economics it which is what I think will be Austin will be supporting bush to judge by the way which cracks me up no he's not yes I swear it's okay everyone when they walk into the booth makes their own personal decision I don't care what they say about now that's probably true but I'm what I'm listening there's such in a lead isn't even within Republican ranks there's never been a president judges largest tax cut ending burdensome regulation finding money for the wall getting better trade deals yeah free and fair and he deals eliminating the caliphate in not in in Syria because he took off the hand counts in the rules of engagement you know what there's two hundred ninety accomplishments Washington examiners found out doesn't matter what he does with we hated we're smarter we're better than how can they keep failing and beg me when their books come out to be on the show.

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"stephen hayes" Discussed on 1947: The Meet the Press Podcast

1947: The Meet the Press Podcast

16:30 min | 1 year ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on 1947: The Meet the Press Podcast

"About what fear campaigns do veer pay and pains. Don't motivate people to vote they motivate people not to vote. Don't they explain. Some people might think. Oh this fear campaigns going to inspire more. It looks to me like it's a scare tactic. It's an absolute scare tactic and it was interesting. It's completely dubious because they try to. They a lot of what we're starting to see in social media and social media feeds for example my staff I think I shared with you chuck. They're starting to receive a stuff from the from the right talking about socialism and how the Democrats are bad. And so they tried equivocate. These policies as kind of neutrally both you being courted but in a perverse way. Now it's more of a stay at home you're getting courted in Don't come out right because if you think we're bad well they're gonNA send you back to the country that you your family may have come from what they've experienced right so it kinda neutralizes. The vote The Democrats are doing the same the thing on the Republican side. They're trying to neutralize the Republicans from coming out But it's not a not a healthy tactic or long term strategy. If what you believe if you believe that are the underpinnings of our democracy isn't massive participation right so for both of these parties to be up to those dirty tactics for the work that I do. It's not only more difficult difficult but I really believe that. The system works for the people who occupy and our job is to occupy these young people into the boat voting booth. It is tough in politics. Do not have an aspirational final message. And I feel like now this is I have. Do you feel as if that the Spanish community right now. Particularly the politically engaged Hispanics SPANDEX. Feel as if there's a fear campaign. This is considering Paso batter this Milwaukee incident. I just our in our job job is to counteract I was just going to say what you view your messaging to be. What do you view? And here's something else who could step up to fill the leadership void right now. Is it have to be a presidential candidate or are there others. I think it has to be a combination. I think that it has to become a nation but I think it has to be someone that can speak to do the totality of Americans for it to be effective and for it to be smart And in this moment when we talk about the fear tactics they're real because people who have done harm to Latino community has connected directly to the voting block you mentioned El Paso in El Paso the creed that this man who decided that he was going to jump in ten hours and drive down and kill 'em 'cause maximum pain in his creed. He said that he wanted to Tamper Down Hispanic voting block. You can't get more explicit it and so we're hearing the messages but what we need to do is Talk Mano Mano with the Community and take a lot of lessons that we borrowed from the Civil Rights Movement and that we borrowed from California after proposition. Eighty seven where we were experiencing very similar heightened tension not as much direct violence and and that was organized. And speak about what happens. When you participate California Up to twenty five years ago it was a swing state and then Pete Wilson decided that he was gonna put it on the backs of our families and we decided to organize and mobilize and now California's solidly blue But that was Republicans fault I would say this is the Republicans. They should be talking to people's aspirations of why they moved their family here for many purposes. Let's bring this to close on this question. which is You're you're you're a voter If anything your vote engagement voter registration organization Voto Latino. I think I know you've said this before. You have a concern that it's it's not the Democrats are going to be complacent about the Latino vote. It's that they aren't going to be fully engaged enough in vote that it's it's that there isn't a Enough registration campaigns isn't enough outreach. Who's doing the best job that you've seen so far? Let's instead of focusing on the negative of this presidential presidential campaigns who is checking a box and who is actually trying to do more than just check a box interesting. When I look at the political debates? Or whoever's going to win I would say that the majority of Democrats Reg Democrats are GONNA go out and vote for whoever The job is to ensure that you keep the white suburban moms that came out during the midterms. You want to keep them in your camp and you WanNa grow where the marketplaces you have. Twelve million young people that have turned eighteen since the last election. Twelve million more than boomers for the first time so we're going to have the largest generation that is the youngest generation that is under registered. And you have exactly fifteen million Latinos that are under register. This are the only two marketplaces you can go to go right so nothing is going to go where the voters are and that is in the south interesting. It's all on the south. It's all in the south. I mean Arizona. Virginia Georgia Texas North Carolina. It is in the south. The fact that say the least tilt story of the two thousand eighteen. Election's there are so many wins Arizona purple. No one talks about that. Not only is it is it. Is it like Virginia's it just stopping by purple on its way to it was in. Hov Lane from two thousand now. I mean it went from red to blue and twenty years a big. That's a fast change in exchange huge you change and this is what's wild Texas not so far behind Texas two point five million literally a quarter of all eligible young Latino voters in that state and they're scared and they're angry what. Why is there all this money being spent on other programs and not on voter registration and I mean it feels like I'm always surprised at how? How underfunded voter registration campaigns are in Texas in general? You and me. Both I think part of the reason is that this is this talks more about the mechanics. People often times they lean church what they know and if you look at the political establishment from both parties most of the consultants and most of the operatives are all from the Midwest that is what they now oh so true. That's a fascinating point about it. It is amazing. How many operatives both parties have Iowa experience but that's what they know right so they keep leaning into it instead dead of actually saying well? This is where the future is and if there is if Virginia Colorado Nevada of recent history are any indication of where the future is it is through so young people is through Latinos is through suburban. MOMS always a pleasure to speak with my friend and colleague Maria Theresa Kamar. When we come back I'll be joined by Jonah? Goldberg and Steve Hayes both formerly.

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"stephen hayes" Discussed on 1947: The Meet the Press Podcast

1947: The Meet the Press Podcast

14:36 min | 1 year ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on 1947: The Meet the Press Podcast

"Episodes every Tuesday. Wherever you get your podcasts? By the way there are things that happen in in in in over sometimes in trump day. And you're like boy that never got traction remember when he He's getting ready to meet with the UN about six weeks. They'RE GONNA go. Where's where's my favorite dictator? Yeah yeah it just says it. He just says at everybody like we're supposed to pretend Egypt is not a dictatorship. Didn't get the memo Mr President by the way those are my favorite trump moments where he actually pierces a veneer that we should pierce el-sisi spectator. I was literally just going to say the same thing I mean. This is the key that's part of the kind of disruption that trump will do. That's good I think dispensing with all of the focus grouping all of the consultant driven you know. Bs that I find really refreshing now. He replaces it with stuff that I don't necessarily love. That's the if you had if you had an ideological conservative. Who Was it? Who who who had sort of a world you and had given a lot of thought to these things and then did that kind of disruption that would be ideal view? True story I I wrote a column basically making this point during the primaries where I said the one thing we can all agree on about trump. He doesn't sound like you consulted a focus group right and trump circled the paragraph one paragraph. That could be in context seen as a complement and wrote me a note on the copy from the New York. Post that he it read saying it's been a great trip together. Thanks so much clear that he doesn't read someone pointed out that passage and that's the only one that he cared about. But you know the the disruption stuff I mean the he has these tells where he he because he only has I remember talking to Charles Krauthammer about this. He only seems to have a functioning vocabulary of about two three thousand words and which is why he'll say do things like very very very very very very right. That's beautiful that's a person who's lacking in adjectives. Beautiful transcript are African Americans have never ever ever ever ever ever ever had it. So bad in two thousand sixteen was an interesting sort of state Matt Right and and so I think sometimes what's what would seen as disruption and as a philosophical thing is really based on kind of ignorance and he's going to China shop and that's the thing that frustrates me so much about the arguments that we have if you want argue about forever wars and take the Rand Paul Position and the isolationist deserted find those are arguments that we have. We've had those organs for thirty years if you were serious serious about those things. You Still WanNa bug out a series of the way you did right. That was incompetence. And what a lot of the trump supporters do as they rush to these high flown thirty thousand foot philosophical arguments and Ben them to what actually happened which was that trump on the spur of the moment screwed. His own staff is own the advisers and our allies on a whim. And that's not something. If Pat Buchanan we're presidents dates he would want to pull out a Middle East too but he'd negotiate with the Kurds and the Turks Zinni figure out a way to do it. Matters resigned and there was no policy implementation since that. Well it's like it's like one of the things that I like to remind some I'm close folks close to me and I always say you know. Be careful who you're criticizing in the trump world. I said some day. The hero of the story is going to be somebody. You don't agree with and it turns out John. Bolton Jeff sessions are guys that are maybe share some of the president's beliefs on some things but they actually believe in the republic and even a process awesome. They believe in a system and they believe in persuasion. Yeah I mean you've you've seen this again and again I obviously. We're waiting to see what John Bolton says both about the John Bolton's Donald Trump's John Dean. What the hell does that mean? It's going to be like Scooby Doo integrate. He's like he takes on John both. Save April Republic. Okay Rachel like handle that like joke with my liberal friends. I'm like are you prepared to celebrate the the hero that is John Bolton if he is the person that essentially is darth vader that throws the emperor staff. I was obsessed best with Bolton saying during the Korea. North Korea negotiations yes that we're looking closely at the Libya model. I think you might have said on your show. You said it was a total auteuil. I think he did it on purpose. It was a total monkey right after. I remember asking everybody about this. This is obvious to me that he because North Koreans know xactly. What a second we have our way and get nuclear weapons from you and we're going to kill you and destroy your regime and it was interesting? That trump months later when he fired Bolton brought that up when he was cast on them he says you know he causes a lot of problems with that Libya model thing and Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. And that's the reason why I I've known John. Bolton longtime time is used to be reminded me. I used to see him basically collecting his mail. The Fox News Green Room. 'cause he was always there and the difference between Bolton and Pompeo is is that Bolton. I'm bad with the sports metaphors. Compared to you guys pay is playing man demand whatever trump needs that's now he adjusts. POMPEII was playing a position. And he's playing the Boltons. Playing position is wing zone. He was doing the stuff that the job required correct and for his own goals but but he wasn't trying to like bend. Everything and I think it's part because Bolton there any plans to run for office in Peyot does let's talk about what you are doing. It's called the dispatch but it to me. It feels like this is. This is sort of the next phase of what I assume is going to dominate the next decade. which is who what is is what is it? What is an American conservative? And what does the conservative movement stand for right like. We don't know what some what some people tell me is conservatism. I always tell oh the MIC. That's not that's not was my definition. That's what trump defines it. What give me the elevator? Pitch of the dispatch. Yeah basically it's it's a conservative Media Company Digital Media Company. That will I mean Jonah has described often as sort of sane conservatism. What we WANNA do is have an argument based on facts logic and reason where we go out and report things we wanna find stuff out? This is not sort of a hot take factory. We are not not mere opinion slingers. We've got plenty of opinions. We're happy to share them. But we WANNA go and make arguments and try to persuade people and come at this with sort of a world world. Do that is closer to kind of Ronald Reagan style. I was just GONNA say outlined. GimMe the ideology that you're sort of if you guys are under an an ideological ideological umbrella would you would. What does that look? I mean I would call it classical liberalism but we're not. We're not going to impose an ideology. We WanNa have some of these debates okay in our pages and in our newsletters. There's an honor podcasts. And so we're not going to say to people you know one thing I would love to have actually when we when we position NATO type of thing. You know what I mean by that like position on Multilateral Audrey Bentham you like NATO yeah but all things being okay we're pro-nato but if somebody but if somebody wanted to to argue that we should get out of NATO Somebody who brought it's sort of an intellectual argument to the kind of case that that Donald Trump has come close to making several times. That'd be a great podcast. We'd love to have what's that allows for that discussion so one because you're is much more of a political junkie than I am and you but so you have the memory of this stuff. One of sort of weird models of it is really the New Republic of the late eighties and early nineties right. You knew everyone for with the exception of like say Fred Fred Barnes and a K and Krauthammer after he became more conservative. But you know basically everybody. There was liberal. You knew where they came from but left of center it is l.. We didn't know what the the different degrees of lives. But what you did know was that the writers were honest about their biases. And you knew where they're coming from and I'm not saying that every single thing Binghaman republic back then was great but it was a fantastic magazine and one of the things that made them special was. They weren't afraid to call bs on their own side and they gave a lot of grief that elected elected Democrats one of the problems that we've got these days with they still let publisher dictate too many things. That's fine I mean this is to me is something that I'm I'm I'm struggling with it. Every news organization which is to try to figure out how to keep one person for me Steven our partner. We own fifty percent of this thing. So we're okay for right now but nothing wrong with that and you should. You're the publishers. But that is when the new republic we started to go off the reservation when when he was more worried about Al Gore's presidential campaign. Then that's what about the future of liberal liberal and that's that's sort of proves my point is that so much of I think media in general but right wing media in particular you're because the parties are so weak lot of institutions of filled the void. And they're doing they're playing partisan functions when they should not be and that's true the NRA and unplanned parenthood. That's true of how the social media and Cable News world has emerged and it doesn't Cable News and social media the Cable News now as we see it in his people is social media and television. There's a lot of that and I agree. And and that doesn't mean everything that partisan media does is back correct. Opposition research kind of stuff is fine but we you know I've never given much of a damn about myself Republican. I really care about going myself. A conservative cash. And so we think there's a lot of good journalism reporting to do on the right. That isn't in service to a politician or two apart. Cheerleader under booster is. It doesn't do anybody any good if you're going if you're writing things I mean that's the those are the economic incentives of the current media landscape right and this is the problem. Is that the economic incentives trump. I mean look. This is my issue with with facebook. Is it in all of social media. Is that particularly twitter more so than actually facebook twitter twitter entices negative and entice. Phony and entices is exaggerating it. Rewarding sure monetize is it and so the the the model is my concern is is that the model to communicate. Information is both monopolized by social media and has been warped so add to that agree with that. Add to that the the the the models inside media organizations themselves. It's the same thing I mean. You get more clicks if your digital media company you get more clicks if you publish stuff that your audience this is GonNa love is going to go. Viral is outrageous. You know if you've listened to nationals park say lock them up or if you can do a Dan Crenshaw owned Ao. See the and you're like that people are GonNa Click on that if you're if you're trying to monetize volume and you're trying to monetize scale that's what you do so we're doing the opposite of that so we're not going to have ads. We we're going to be almost all subscription newsletters and podcasts. It'll be ads on podcast. PUCK are different Ryan. We're not GONNA do ads on the website. We you for the time being or not GonNa do sponsorships in newsletters and we are trying to build a subscription based business where people can come and things are going to slow down a little bit too. We're we're we're not you're never gonNA come to our website which will at least at launch in January will publish probably three or four articles. By the way ain't nobody goes to websites. Correct information comes to them. Well this is. This is the other thing that we're trying to do. were buying into this. This idea that people want stuff coming to them so we're focusing on newsletter but we think that this model allows us to to sort of keep the editorial objectives that that we want and and it's consistent with though also just improves the user experience. Yeah you visit some websites some good websites just the barrage of pop up videos and an and under videos. And where's that volume coming from. My you know that kind of we just think there are a lot of people who were exhausted with that and to actually be able to read something that is four reader is this is going to provide value so to me most undercover thought topic that we have that we don't particularly to me. I think the conservative movement should be consumed with us. And I expect you guys to be consumed with this. which is what happens on January? Let's assume that the data's correct and that the president is not going to win reelection..

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"stephen hayes" Discussed on 1947: The Meet the Press Podcast

1947: The Meet the Press Podcast

12:37 min | 1 year ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on 1947: The Meet the Press Podcast

"I deeply believe that in this country. We've always had the population. We needed an increasingly interglobal interglobal world. This is the population that we should be. Grooming whether we're chinese-american Polish American African American Latina magazine. This is the moment that we can really get everybody up. Level to level up to bring in the fruits of the future is a great line that you disuse which we have always had the population that we needed. You Know Barack Obama after the made a comment after the the last Olympics that I thought it was it was. It was a terrific comment. He didn't grounded grounded in politics could've easily grounded in the politics immigration. He says you know there's a reason why America is always number one or number two in the metals no matter what Olympics six we had and it's because we come from everywhere all right. I wanted to start that way because I want to get into what happened in Milwaukee and it because as I'm concerned about a few things here and I'm curious where where your head is Adam. This this is of course referring to the incident when a An American citizen of Peruvian descent. I believe I guess it got it back and forth with another gentleman from Wisconsin. -SCONSIN this option of Wisconsin A dispute over a parking space and suddenly the Peruvian man's Skin color mattered To the person any threw battery acid Adam and it was this is a hate crime pure and simple based on his ethnicity. I'm still waiting for the president to say anything and I'm sure I don't know if you want the president say anything or not but has there been enough national leadership on this issue zero. I mean zero and that's what's astounding. So the back story is that he parked discard the John. The other gentlemen wanted the car space and I guess he didn't move. He came back out and he did move or he didn't his car Reva Corner. Basically the the guy was trying this gentleman. He tried to all right yes. He apparently moved two blocks. Okay this was caught on camera. I know so and the the other ones will go back to your country right and he's like I'm a US citizen and at least nineteen years. I think he threw battery acid. But I think the most heartbreaking piece that I had to re to as I read the story and watch the videos that he had to go to his children to Sun and explain what happened to him and as a parent. This idea that you are not only not able to be safe by that is that what does that translate for what you're communicating to your to. Your family is really tough. But but I think that the this is all very real with the president in office hate crimes among Latinos amount Jewish Americans among African Americans Asians Muslims have skyrocketed. This is true a bullying it now is among in the Mon- in Mung the Latino community. It's the number one mental health issue that parents have concerns with their kids. It's it's there's a friend of mine WHO's Muslim and her our son. This is an Arlington County. Public School was at in the lunchroom called a terrorist. Yeah and it really setback grades. He didn't tell his mother the incident until after the school year so she couldn't and by the time she could engage the leadership of the school because their kid didn't didn't WanNa tell her well it's embarrassing. It's but it was in you know it's it's again Arlington County. This is this is not a a red enclave of anything. or any sort of Maga- hat Wisconsin. Right I mean I think that's the challenge is that we're seeing it everywhere. I mean even the even though in little town where I grew up in the local middle school during trump's election was spray painted with go back. Go back to your country. Where fifty percent of the kids were Latino denote? They were Americans right and I think this is. This is an incredible leadership moment. Explain that this transition that we're experiencing creates possibilities for us. The people a yellow go back to go back home or the descendants of people who were told to go back home. I'd go back home literally. Their grandparents were told. Go back to the country you came from when they came over well and I I like to remind folks I mean we were. We were established by religious refugees. Right like that is that is our origin at ah for better or worse and the I think the challenge right now with these conversations is that we are turning off the excitement of a generation of young the Americans who feel that patriotism has been overtaken by the nationalist right. And that's a danger because we want folks to be bought into our possibility Eh. But if they're not getting the if they're not getting the resources they're not getting addressed and their pain is not gonNA address. We can't do that. Look let's let's be a bit crankier. About what fear campaigns do veer pay and pains. Don't motivate people to vote they motivate people not to vote. Don't they explain. Some people might think. Oh this fear campaigns going to inspire more. It looks to me like it's a scare tactic. It's an absolute scare tactic and it was interesting. It's completely dubious because they try to. They a lot of what we're starting to see in social media and social media feeds for example my staff I think I shared with you chuck. They're starting to receive a stuff from the from the right talking about socialism and how the Democrats are bad. And so they tried equivocate. These policies as kind of neutrally both you being courted but in a perverse way. Now it's more of a stay at home you're getting courted in Don't come out right because if you think we're bad well they're gonNA send you back to the country that you your family may have come from what they've experienced right so it kinda neutralizes. The vote The Democrats are doing the same the thing on the Republican side. They're trying to neutralize the Republicans from coming out But it's not A. That's not a healthy tactic or long term strategy. If what you believe if you believe that are are. The underpinnings of our democracy isn't massive participation right so for both of these parties to be up to those dirty tactics for the work that I do. It's not only more difficult perfect but I really believe that. The system works for the people who occupy and our job is to occupy these young people into the boat voting booth. It is tough in politics. Do not have an aspirational final message. And I feel like now this is I have. Do you feel as if that the Spanish community right now. Particularly the politically engaged Hispanics SPANDEX. Feel as if there's a fear campaign. This is considering Paso batter this Milwaukee incident. I just our in our job job is to counteract I was just going to say what you view your messaging to be. What do you view? And here's something else who could step up to fill the leadership void right now. Is it have to be a presidential candidate or are there others. I think it has to be a combination. I think that it has to become a nation but I think it has to be someone that can speak to do the totality of Americans for it to be effective and for it to be smart And in this moment when we talk about the fear tactics they're real because people who have done harm to Latino community has connected directly to the voting block you mentioned El Paso in El Paso the creed that this man who decided that he was going to jump in ten hours and drive down and kill 'em 'cause maximum pain in his creed. He said that he wanted to Tamper Down Hispanic voting block. You can't get more explicit it and so we're hearing the messages but what we need to do is Talk Mano Mano with the Community and take a lot of lessons that we borrowed from the Civil Rights Movement and that we borrowed from California after proposition. Eighty seven where we were experiencing very similar heightened tension not as much direct violence and and that was organized. And speak about what happens. When you participate California Up to twenty five years ago it was a swing state and then Pete Wilson decided that he was gonna put it on the backs of our families and we decided to organize and mobilize and now California's solidly blue But that was Republicans fault I would say this is the Republicans. They should be talking to people's aspirations of why they moved their family here for many purposes. All right. Let's bring this to close on this question. which is You're you're you're a voter If anything your vote engagement voter registration organization Voto Latino. I think I know you've said this before. You have a concern that it's it's not the Democrats are going to be complacent about the Latino vote. It's that they aren't going to be fully engaged enough in vote that it's it's that there isn't a Enough registration campaigns isn't enough outreach. Who's doing the best job that you've seen so far? Let's instead of focusing on the negative of this presidential presidential campaigns who is checking a box and who is actually trying to do more than just check a box interesting. When I look at the political debates? Or whoever's going to win I would say that the majority of Democrats Reg Democrats are GONNA go out and vote for whoever The job is to ensure that you keep the white suburban moms that came out during the midterms. You want to keep them in your camp and you WanNa grow where the marketplaces you have. Twelve million young people that have turned eighteen since the last election. Twelve million more than boomers for the first time so we're going to have the largest generation that is the youngest generation that is under registered. And you have exactly fifteen million Latinas that are under register. This are the only two marketplaces you can go to go right so nothing is going to go where the voters are and that is in the south interesting. It's all on the south. It's all in the South Arizona. Virginia Georgia Texas North Carolina. It is in the south. The fact that say the least tilt story of the two thousand eighteen. Election's there are so many wins Arizona purple. No one talks about that. Not only is it is it. Is it like Virginia's it just stopping by purple on its way to it was in. Hov Lane from two thousand now. I mean it went from red to blue and twenty years a big. That's a fast change in exchange huge you change and this is what's wild Texas not so far behind Texas. You have two point five million literally a quarter of all eligible young Latino voters in that state and they're scared and they're angry what. Why is there all this money being spent on other programs and not on voter registration and I mean it feels like I'm always surprised at how? How underfunded voter registration campaigns are in Texas in general? You and me. Both I think part of the reason is that this is this talks more about the mechanics. People often times they lean church what they know and if you look at the political establishment from both parties most of the consultants and most of the operatives are all from the Midwest that is what they now oh so true. That's a fascinating point about it. It is amazing. How many operatives both parties have Iowa experience but that's what they know right so they you keep leaning into it instead dead of actually saying well this is where the future is and if there is if Virginia Colorado Nevada of recent history are any indication of where the future is it is through so young people is through Latinos is through suburban? MOMS always a pleasure to speak with my friend and colleague Maria Theresa Kamar. When we come back I'll be joined by Jonah? Goldberg and Steve Hayes both formerly of conservative publications National Review and Weekly Standard respectively..

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"stephen hayes" Discussed on The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

14:09 min | 1 year ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

"There's no one who can help you see the world through someone else's eyes quite like author Malcolm Glad. Well Malcolm sat down with me and September eleventh. Shortly before his book talking to strangers was released he was moved to write as he watched racial. Tensions play out across the country spurred word on by the death of African American Sandra Bland and was all after a routine traffic stop. Here's an excerpt of our conversation. Let me do what I'm supposed to be doing here. which just talking about your book a little bit okay? I will say this what I thought the book would be and of course after reading it was for two different things. The first thing I thought of maybe dismay tell you more about me and where my head is at talking to strangers. How finally he's GonNa blow up Social Media and yet I don't mention the word social media in the entire powerbook? There's another word you don't mention the entire book. I WanNa talk to you later later because I feel like you're writing tools for us to interpret this. This said entity that is not mentioned in the book but it is interesting to me that it what the cover is and what the book is our. What what the what the tidal Heidel told me and what the book is where two different things? I don't know if you tend to that or not. I don't think intended I didn't you know I I. I really was funny as I really really really just wanted to write about Santa Bland. I mean that is really. Why did that happen and figuring out if you unlock that you'll unlock everything else? It's not a metaphor and it's not a it's actually what the books about. Only I thought the best way to write about her was to go on these aggressions about Amanda Knox Bernie Madoff for Jerry Sandusky Sadowski. Or what have you but I really really really did. I think you know the it all began. I read a book by Frank. Zimring criminologist And figure out how many people are killed every year civilians are killed every year by law enforcement. And if there's to suck up to more. I thought Jay Ferguson Pot. The Ferguson episode people on the right side need to hear it to you know particularly in the left because it was you you you showcased how people are only listening with one ear but it was a brilliant episode anyway And he was trying to figure out so the first half of his book is trying to figure what that number is in surprisingly. It's hard you would think we would know that number and you have to like do a million calculations and we don't even keeping track of this and then then he realizes he's size it's about a thousand people a here and then he says is that higher low relative to other countries and the answer is it's way way way way way I and he's like well. Why is it so high and I found this book? I read this book like years ago. Before I really started the book my book I find incredibly riveting and distress as riveting and distressing a book written as I've read about America in a very very long time it was. It was an explicitly kind of indictment of America. But it was you. You couldn't read it and walk away feeling good about your country and it is and so and then along comes Sandra Bland. And it's like okay. It's time to make try and make sense of this phenomenon because he struggles a little bit with With the why he has a bunch of reasons but it is a little mysterious that there's something about relationships between civilians and law enforcement in this country that are good and that have tragic consequence when I was listening to your podcast on this and going through it. Michael Brown did not respect the authorities because the authorities had earned his respect and earned the communities respect respect and it made me think about just basic things we do with policing why do why does everybody have a if you're a driver. You have an instinctive distrust of a cop because you think they're gonNA come get you catch you and even if you do something wrong you think they might catch. I almost wonder if the worst thing we ever did to the perception of cops and the relationship between civilian and law enforcement was a speed trap. I don't know and I know that it's a simplistic way but it made me wonder. Have we just screwed up all of this. We've well I've always thought I always think that what's troubling is a bad. A bad message is in certain cities. It's worth others like in Boston. It's bad intel. It's bad you have these. SUV's painted black with huge. Like Doc Those bars on the front. What do they call those bull-bars? Okay sure I am. We're looks like they're ready to ram through a riot. It looks like they're the paramilitary. Hey vehicles that's not a good look for when you realize what police really are. In the modern age there are certain there are social service agency and mostly what they're doing is comforting people who are who have some kind of emotional or physical trauma right. They're not that you know people shooting each other. It's a tiny tiny honey part of their job. Most of their job is is essentially being kind of it's an emt it's the same job as an emt responding to an emergency but this might be a mental emergency or yeah it's a convert whatever it is a it's dealing with people who are troubled right and so why if you if that's what your job is and by the way legitimately your job. Why do you have a vehicle? That makes it look like you're a commando yeah I don't I think it's just not I haven't. I wish I could remember it in in this small town in Canada where I grew up the police have a motto which is so hilariously Canadian. It's basically I don't remember what it is exactly but it's basically here to hug you and hold you. I mean it's something I mean. It's so hilarious Canadian but that that's the guy I'm afraid eight of showing you a recruitment a television ad for the C. P. B. that they're running on college football games in this country. Let's just say it isn't about welcoming right and immigrants to America It is a much different message that they're sending look I. I grew up in Miami and right after first riots. They had the police officers football applecarts to kids. As a way of trying to fix their problem I remember that was an attempt but at least they were trying. Yeah at least at least they were trying something. I've just say going going through this and you're different examples of not being able to catch a spy. Basically our inability to find out if people are lying we can and you come to the conclusion number one. The biggest conclusion I came to is the worst way to figure out. If someone's lying is by looking them in the eye yes exactly and and and so how the hell talk to strangers. If you can't get the truth by looking them in the eye so I I become a a radical on this. I now increasingly the opinion that you should only do face to face encounters when there are consequences involved. We're doing face to counter. We have seen all the consequences. Well so yeah so the stakes here are really low. We're not knowing you know we're we're just trying to be entertaining. So but if there are stakes were real. I think you should avoid them face to face encounters whenever possible so for example. Here's one that many investors follow this principle I know a number of Serious people in the investment community who make a point of not meeting the executives in person of the companies they invested. They think it's too then taken they don't take into see they know these orchestra the the idea as a musician. I cared about that a lot. You WanNa know. Oh that just your music is being judged so you put up a screen and you. Don't see the people just as just as orchestras do that when they're picking perspective perspective in employees physicians these these investors say you someone is a CEO by virtue of in many cases there compelling personality compelling personality is unrelated to the investment quality of the of the company. Don't take risk I've met a CEO who's just that way. It's just like that guy can say anything and he was failures. Yeah Yeah so stay so. But now I've got even further so in job interviews in general. Should we meet the person if they don't have an explicit social function in the job so they're selling perfume on the ground floor of Saxe you've got to meet Yup Yup that matters. Let's take us take them off the table. You're hiring a researcher. Do you need to meet them. I I don't know and yet I can't tell you. Here's here's one paranoia. I want to know they exist. I could talk on the phone okay. I'm only being facetious here. We live in a day and age if we are going to see created personas and things as long as journalism another question so this is one of my favorite questions your I. I'm as I WANNA ask you to do a a comprehensive profile of a public figure I had two options unlimited access to the figure him or herself or no access to the subject and unlimited access assist to the subjects friends co workers. I want no access to the person that one I want all the information. I don't want their version of events percent so why not win in hiring whatever the same you're right you're right. You're wrong if we about to do an ad I don't have for one of the job boards sites we're about to. I think we're actually with the copy right now. Somehow Chuck and Malcolm just read our copy you know and we're making nothing off of this. I guess I get that well certainly Neville Chamberlain should have never seen Hitlerite. I I mean do we think of Neville Chamberlain just trades telegrams with Hitler and says is your intention acts. My intention is just this okay. Well we believe the telegram. Well so what he really should have stayed home and finished my comp yes Right after the ending which is what Churchill did Churchill. Never met Hitler Church Redmond COMP and took it seriously so the man has written a manifesto of many many hundreds of pages in which he he lays out in excruciating detail his vision for the world one would think that should be rated very highly in any analysis of Hitler. The problem with beating someone face to face is not that that information is useless is that we overvalue it so you end up saying you. You're not it's like they have the look are is. The president. Loves to say the look. What does that mean? I was going to year. Basket- Basketball Fan. Yeah Yeah I is a great story along these lines. Quite Leonard is being drafted like twenty years old. The Seattle has the pick to. They could take them and they do a pre-draft interview with him and he comes in and he's so nervous he sweats his shirt and saddle Seattle. GM says says. I don't want to. I don't want someone who is not cool under pressure now. They're just principle. No one is cooler under pressure and quiet turns earns out thousand percent percent. But secondly here's what he does is he overrated. You know we have a huge amount of data on Kauai. We have tape of every game. He's ever played eight and what happens. Is He meets off the basketball court where he's uncomfortable where he's wearing a suit which he's not accomplish. He's nineteen or the twentieth and what happens the GM ends up overrating that information and undervaluing the Chili relevant information and that is a very weekdays classic human tendency to it's not. It's that that the problem with gathering information is you don't assign appropriate weights to it. And and that's I think is what's going on with a lot of this when we're the reason we're so fooled by like made off have a chapter on. They have a theory about right which people get fooled easily. Oh Tummy they are used to exclusively So it makes sense that. I just think think that there's a reason why you see wealthy. I get why made off was able to. I think he's able to. Hey I'm I only take a small group of people while while they people want to believe I believe there are no clue. I think I think that there are ways to oh you can tap tap in their egos narcissism and that is what made off did so. Well I always love with the person I feel like we're we're sort of hovering around him. The person that is not mentioned in your book at all likes to Brag how he wasn't taken by made off now it may be. He had no money to invest to actually give him actual cash into that but I believe made off succeeded by playing to the ego off the ivy elite small and all of that. I have a parallel rich person. Actually not why rich people specifically but why entrepreneurs are easily taken skin and that is that they have to so. I talked about this in book. This notion that we are hardwired to trust. And there's a good reason for that because it's easier easier to. I'm about to say the thoroughness in here. I feel like we're getting but But if you're an entrepreneur you're that in spades. You cannot successfully start start a company from scratch or or start any kind of massive grid from scratch unless you are a kind of master trustor. You're you have trust almost to excess. You can't funny. You Talk to real entrepreneurs people really take and they will tell you. They make enormous bats on people without doing. They don't have time energy whatever to do. They don't have a seven people to how to interview to find the person that they need to run the office. They just I literally. I like that person. Just do whatever it is or I'll come and Julia right..

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"stephen hayes" Discussed on 1947: The Meet the Press Podcast

1947: The Meet the Press Podcast

14:09 min | 1 year ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on 1947: The Meet the Press Podcast

"There's no one who can help you see the world through someone else's eyes quite like author Malcolm Glad. Well Malcolm sat down with me and September eleventh. Shortly before his book talking to strangers was released he was moved to write as he watched racial. Tensions play out across the country spurred word on by the death of African American Sandra Bland and was all after a routine traffic stop. Here's an excerpt of our conversation. Let me do what I'm supposed to be doing here. which just talking about your book a little bit okay? I will say this what I thought the book would be and of course after reading what it was two different things. The first thing I thought of maybe dismay tell you more about me and where my head is at talking to strangers. How finally he's GonNa blow up Social Media and yet I don't mention the word social media in the entire powerbook? There's another word you don't mention the entire book. I WanNa talk to you later later because I feel like you're writing tools for us to interpret this. This said entity that is not mentioned in the book but it is interesting to me that it what the cover is and what the book is our our. What what the what the tidal Heidel told me? And what the book is are two different things. I don't know if you tend to that or not a new. I don't think intended I didn't you know I I. I really was funny as I really really really just wanted to write about Santa Bland. I mean that is really. Why did that happen and figuring out if you unlock that you'll unlock everything else? It's not a metaphor and it's not a it's actually what the books about. Only I thought the best way to write about her was to go on these segregations about Amanda Knox Bernie Madoff for Jerry Sandusky Sadowski. Or what have you but I really really really did. I think you know the it all began. I read a book by Frank. Zimring criminologist And figure out how many people are killed every year civilians are killed every year by law enforcement and to suck up to more. I thought Ferguson Pot. The Ferguson episode people on the right side need to hear it to you know particularly in the left because it was you you you showcased how people are only listening with one ear But it was a brilliant episode anyway And he was trying to figure out so the first half of his book is trying to figure what that number is in surprisingly. It's hard you would think we would know that number and you have to like do a million calculations and we don't even keeping track of this and then then he realizes he's size. It's about a thousand people year here. And then he says is that higher low relative to other countries and the answer is it's way way way way way I and then he's like well. Why is it so high and I found this book? I read this book years ago before I really started the book my book I find incredibly a riveting and distress us as riveting and distressing a book written as I've read about America in a very very long time it was. It was an explicitly kind of indictment of America. But it was you. You couldn't read it and walk away feeling good about your country and it is and so and then along comes Sandra Bland. And it's like okay. It's time to make try and make sense of this phenomenon because he struggles a little bit with With the why he has a bunch of reasons but it is a little mysterious that there's something about relationships between civilians and law enforcement in this country that are good and that have tragic consequence. I was listening to your podcast on this and going through it. Michael Brown did not respect the authorities because the authorities had earned his respect and earned the communities respect respect and it made me think about just basic things we do with policing why do why does everybody have a if you're a driver. You have an instinctive distrust of a cop because you think they're gonNA come get you catch you and even if you do something wrong you think they might catch. I almost wonder if the worst thing we ever did to the perception of cops and the relationship between civilian and law enforcement was a speed trap. I don't know and I know that it's a simplistic way but it made me wonder. Have we just screwed up all of this. We've well I've always thought I always think that what's troubling is a bad. A bad message is in certain cities. It's worth others like in Boston. It's bad intel. It's bad you have these. SUV's painted black with huge. Like Doc Those bars on the front. What do they call those bullbars? Okay sure I am. We're looks like they're ready to ram through a riot. It looks like they're the paramilitary. Hey vehicles that's not a good look for when you realize what police really are. In the modern age there are certain there are social service agency and mostly what they're doing is comforting people who are who have some kind of emotional or physical trauma right. They're not that you know people shooting each other. It's a tiny tiny honey part of their job. Most of their job is is essentially being kind of it's an emt it's the same job as an emt responding to an emergency but this might be a mental emergency or yeah it's a convert whatever it is a it's dealing with people who are troubled right and so why if you if that's what your job is and by the way legitimately your job. Why do you have a vehicle? That makes it look like you're a commando yeah I don't I think it's just not I haven't. I wish I could remember it in in this small town in Canada where I grew up the police have a motto which is so hilariously Canadian. It's basically I don't remember what it is exactly but it's basically here to hug you and hold you. I mean it's something I mean. It's so hilarious Canadian but that that's the guy I'm afraid eight of showing you a recruitment a television ad out for the C. P. B. that they're running on college football games in this country. Let's just say it isn't about welcoming right and immigrants to America It is a much different message that they're sending look I. I grew up in Miami and right after first riots. They had the police officers football applecarts to kids. As a way of trying to fix their problem I remember that was an attempt but at least they were trying. Yeah at least at least they were trying something. I've just say going going through this and you're different examples of not being able to catch a spy. Basically our inability to find out if people are lying we can and you come to the conclusion number one. The biggest conclusion I came to is the worst way to figure out. If someone's lying is by looking them in the eye yes exactly and and and so how the hell talk to strangers. If you can't get the truth by looking them in the eye so I I become a a radical on this. I now increasingly the opinion that you should only do face to face encounters when there are consequences involved. We're doing face to counter. We have seen all the consequences. Well so yeah so the stakes here are really low. We're not knowing you know we're we're just trying to be entertaining. So but if there are stakes were real. I think you should avoid them. Face facing Cowan's whenever possible so for example. Here's one that many investors follow this principle. I know a number of serious people. In the investment community who make a point of not meeting the executives in person of the companies they invested. They think it's too then taken they don't take into see they know these orchestra the the idea as a musician. I cared about that a lot. You WanNa know. Oh that just your music is being judged so you put up a screen and you. Don't see the people just as just as orchestras do that. When they're picking perspective perspective employees physicians these these investors say you someone is a CEO by virtue of in many cases there compelling personality compelling personality is unrelated to the investment quality of the of the company? Don't take risk I've met a CEO. Who's just that way? It's just like that guy can say anything and he was failures. Yeah Yeah so stay so. But now I've got even further so in job interviews in general. Should we meet the person if they don't have an explicit social function in the job so they're selling perfume on the ground floor of Saxe. You've got to meet Yup. Yeah that matters. Let's take the. Let's take them off the table. You're hiring a researcher. Do you need to meet them. I I don't know and yet I can't tell you. Here's here's one paranoia. I want to know they exist. I could talk on the phone okay. I'm only being facetious here. We live in a day and age if we are going to seek created personas and things as long as journalism other question so this is one of my favorite questions your I. I'm as I WANNA ask you to do a a comprehensive profile of a public figure I had two options unlimited access to the figure him or herself or no access to the subject and unlimited access assist to the subjects friends co workers. I want no access to the person that one I want all the information. I don't want their version of events percent so why not win in hiring whatever the same you're right you're right. You're wrong if we about to do an ad I don't have for one of the job boards sites we're about to. I think we're actually with the copy right now. Somehow Chuck and Malcolm just read our copy you know and we're making nothing off of this. I guess I get that well certainly Neville Chamberlain should have never seen Hitlerite. I I mean do we think of Neville Chamberlain. Just trade telegrams with Hitler and says is your intention acts. My intention is just this okay. Well we believe the telegram. Well so what he really should have stayed home and finished my comp. Yes Right after the break which is what Churchill did Churchill never met Hitler Church Redmond comp and took it seriously so the man has written a manifesto of many many hundreds of pages in which he he lays out in excruciating detail his vision for the world one would think that should be rated very highly in any analysis of Hitler. The problem with beating someone face to face is not that that information is useless is that we overvalue it so you end up saying you. You're not it's like they have the look are is. The president. Loves to say the look. What does that mean? I was going to year. Bask- Basketball Fan. Yeah Yeah I is a great story along these lines. Quite Leonard is being drafted like twenty years old. The Seattle has the pick to. They could take them and they do a pre-draft interview with him and he comes in and he's so nervous he sweats his shirt and saddle Seattle. GM says says. I don't want to. I don't want someone who is not cool under pressure now. They're just principle. No one is cooler under pressure and quiet turns earns out thousand percent percent. But secondly here's what he does is he overrated. You know we have a huge amount of data on Kauai. We have tape of every game. He's ever played eight and what happens. Is He meets off the basketball court where he's uncomfortable where he's wearing a suit which he's not accomplish. He's nineteen or the twentieth and what happens the GM ends up overrating that information and undervaluing the Chili relevant information and that is a very weekdays classic human tendency to it's not. It's that that the problem with gathering information is you don't assign appropriate weights to it. And and that's I think is what's going on with a lot of this when we're the reason we're so fooled by like made off have a chapter on. They have a theory about right which people get fooled easily. Oh Tummy they are used to exclusively So it makes sense that. I just think that there's a reason why you see wealthy. I get why made off was able to. I think he's able to. Hey I'm I only take a small group of people while while they people want to believe I believe there are no clue. I think I think that there are ways to tap tap in their egos narcissism and that is what made off did so well. I always love with the person I feel like. We're we're sort of hovering around him. The person that is not mentioned in your book at all likes to Brag how he wasn't taken by made off now it may be. He had no money to invest to actually give him actual cash into that but I believe made off succeeded by playing to the ego off the ivy elite small and all of that. I have a parallel rich person. Actually not why rich people specifically but why entrepreneurs are easily taken skin and that is that they have to so. I talked about this in book. This notion that we are hardwired to trust. And there's a good reason for that because it's easier easier to. I'm about to say the thoroughness in here. I feel like we're getting but I'm sure that in spades. You cannot successfully start start a company from scratch or or start any kind of massive grid from scratch unless you are a kind of master trustor. You're you have trust almost to excess. You can't funny you talk to on like real instruments people really take and they will tell you. They make enormous bets on people without doing. They don't have time energy whatever to do. They don't have a seven people to how to interview to find the person that they need to run the office. They just I literally. I like that person. Just do whatever it is or I'll come and Julia right..

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"stephen hayes" Discussed on 1947: The Meet the Press Podcast

1947: The Meet the Press Podcast

11:28 min | 1 year ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on 1947: The Meet the Press Podcast

"Tell us from Washington on Chuck Todd this is Chuck Todd tasked it's been a another One of those weeks in Washington on the one hand news continues to come out of the impeachment investigation the latest is that the beautiful perfect transcript of president. Trump's phone call with Ukrainian Presidents Alinsky process trying to take aim at the Republicans best defense these days meanwhile congress trying to show that it can walk and Chew Gum at the same time with major hearings in the last few days from people who are thankful for impeachment including the CEO of Boeing and the CEO facebook Mark Zuckerberg both of them did get hammered on Capitol Hill in both of whom are thanking their lucky stars president trump exists It's been a lot over the way we killed Abu Bakar Alba Daddy Oh by the way I'm day by Steve Hayes and Jonah Goldberg there the duo behind a new media company called the dispatch it's a platform for conservatives to gather who still feel like there is a conservative movement even if Donald Trump has hijacked everything else whether you want to call them never trumpers trump skeptics or human scum which I believe John is your preferred Monica it was my name in high school so why would I abandon it now whatever you WanNa call them a break from our usual journalists discussion and just hear from Stephen John for a while and what better we have these guys on because we're going to talk to impeachments past and present and maybe a little bit about the Media Business Gentlemen Welcome to both of you thanks for having a straight to beer it's totally are entrepreneur the entrepreneurial journalists which means you're you look unshaven our and you certainly have untucked any one of the sponsors of my podcasts is untuckit modeling behavior the right away with the untuckit guys clearly are for the let's just say the guy that doesn't jog anymore it's all for if you don't like how you look at a Tux shirt I mean then call us yeah so it's really on brand for them to be works it works for us all right let's talk about news of the week and this which is and I wanNA start it this way Steve as your obsession of national security I know oh well wired you are in on all of these things the capture of Al Baghdadi is this something that the president deserves credit for or did his policies speed spate basically is this because of him or in spite of him that we ended up doing this because the more we're learning the more you realize in this raid almost got ruined by the president's rash decision I mean I think anytime you have a president who presides over an operation like this one he deserves some credit I thought that about Barack Obama gave him a lot of credit I wasn't otherwise much of a fan of his terrorism Paul's what did you think of his prolong speech explaining what exactly the wrong wrong thing to do no I'm talking about Bronco Oh hito sorry they didn't talk about Osama bin Laden whimpering and cry Thomas was three minutes and thirty seven seconds and trump's I think was forty eight minutes was the EGOMANIAC yeah politics by the way yeah his his I thought his speech was house of Obama speech was very effective quiet to the point we are the the mightiest military power in the world we can do these things we can we can come and kill you in the night and I've said and we'll never more effective way to do it yeah no question look I think I think trump does deserve some credit for for presiding over this operation anytime you have to make that call It's not an easy call to make you do something that you're GonNa get the blame if it goes badly that's right that's right that's what made the Obama thing like well helicopter down we saw Jimmy Carter that ended his presence right right so I think he deserves he deserves credit for that reason and look this was a stated objective of his campaign remember he was GonNa come and kick the bleep out of out of Isis he deserves credit I think for overseeing broadly overseeing that operation my main concern now remember what mission accomplished this I mean it certainly feels like that Barack Obama did that in May have to the net two thousand eleven and what the mistake Obama made was miss was was misunderstanding the killing of the the leader the killing of Bin Laden with the death of the movie went at John Brennan then Obama's top counterterrorism adviser actually gave a speech at the Woodrow Wilson Center in which she said this next decade we will see the demise al Qaeda will the decade is almost up and we have certainly mourn yet more al-Qaeda is still strengthening and growing I mean they're actually expanding what presence out Baghdadi hanging out in an al Qaeda correct controlled part of northwest Syria which to me was a huge moment joan why why do Republicans in the foreign policy establishment see right see how disturbing they're two one in Turkey and the influence that the president has their see the disturbance there and don't see it with Ukraine or at least don't want to express that publicly yeah no it's a good question I just one quick sort of parallel or alternative history point on the previous thing recall pick up on Steve's point the Obama Administration was bought into this idea eh the killing of bin Laden is dead GM is alive but that was instead they were they were into this narrative that the warriors over it was managed to to shrink the tumor don't worry about it anymore and then the narrative that they had to stick to for the rest of the the ministry was every single time there's another terror attack they had to say it's the remnants or some lone wolf or disgruntled and they created this real anger among concern creatives who kept saying why won't you use the word terrorism won't Jihad you get that is the atmosphere that got brought us Benghazi right without Benghazi you don't find out about Hillary's email server right and so this whole you we don't know where the stuff with trump is gonna go if he picks on when you start pulling on threads you don't think about where they're gonna go weird things on the Ukraine Syria thing I think part of it is that the Siri thing they it is an opportunity first of all on the merits it's just really bad right I mean we can just be clear about that right it's matter a little bit with the Kurds this is I think I feel like this is the mujahedeen all over got yeah when also just have everyone from Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham for ten years saying my idea of strong smart foreign policies the have the Kurds do a lot of the fighting for us we made them all these promises and then we screwed them and a lot of people I think morally feel bad about that at the same time the Siri thing allows a lot of Republicans to say hey look I'm not in lockstep with withdrawn billy defense criticizing him on this stuff but on the Ukraine is it really that big a deal and even though I think in a perfect world the Siri thing is just as impeachable Ukraine thing the way impeachments actually work typically the Ukraine things impeachable serious and what's funny about that is I'm sorry I I am very I I don't like to go down to many rabbit holes because I think too many journalists have I want to see the transcripts why does the air to want power over trump is is I just there is something we don't either we don't no or trump's just taken by one what's your I mean it certainly could be could be the ladder right we know the strongman we've seen president you know with this affinity for strongman almost regardless of ideology regardless of how they treat the United States doesn't shrink if they treat president trump well we're saying Nice things about saying things private about him he likes that if they treat the United States well that's almost secondary in some respects me he's with Kim Jong UN you've seen it with with air to one I think would be another primary example so I don't know I mean I'd love to see the transcripts to I'm not sure they'll tell us anything more than is already apparent it just seems twice now jona aired one has a call with trump and he's like yeah let's get Syria the first time has to resign right the second time they have to say Mr President we need to protect the oilfields by the way what do we make of the fact that essentially telling him a we need something don't you wanna protect the oil and he says Oh yeah I want to protect the oil okay we can have some trips in Syria yeah how disturbing that so I think when the history of all this is written get all the details that the the oil thing is going to turn out to be in effect a sigh up too strong a word this is all about convincing trump Jank they're faking it they're faking trump yeah all the oils are not unimportant but they're not that important port and our relationship with Kurds was much more important but this is something busy it is just one of these things that trump understands it's very sad for some for conservatives in the last twenty years arguing that neoconservative foreign power or was it about the oil about the oil now all of a sudden he's like this guy really is about the oil and so is that on the theorem on the thing about trump and his relationship with strongmen I tried regret how to articulate this theory there are people who hang out with movie stars right and they WanNa start thinking that there are movie star to that they're famous entourage like turtle like Oh yeah or like people hang out with really rich people they start thinking that they should live like rich people to at usually when politicians I I always thought the bog McDonald's scandal was a scandal of everybody's get all of my donors are getting rich how come I don't have money right there's a great speech by Robert Duvall all in the movie the paper where he's explaining Glenn close so that just because you're hanging out with the rich and powerful doesn't mean you're one of them and people start overspending I think there's a thing about trump that he is so enamored with strong men and they're they're also doggedness and in so intimidate aided by them in a certain way and wants to be confused for one of them that when they make an ask he wants to show off and say the sure I can do that 'cause I'm I'm I'm a leader like you I'm as strong as you are I'm not interesting not running just one of three branches of one of our fifty-six governments in this country I am in fact the man the man right and by the way I'm rich too but it's it's a chicken or egg question remember he was doing this during the primaries for that famous that famous I think it was a morning show appearance where he was praising Putin for for taking such a strong for Jilin journalist I still you know by the way I think happened it in sometimes in on a trump day in your life boy that never got traction remember when he he's getting ready to meet with el-sisi up at the UN at six weeks they're going to go where's my favorite dictator yeah it just says yeah he says it everybody's like we're supposed to pretend Egypt is not a dictatorship didn't you Mr President by the way those are my favorite trump moments.

"stephen hayes" Discussed on The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

11:25 min | 1 year ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on The Chuck ToddCast: Meet the Press

"Tell us from Washington on Chuck Todd this is Chuck Todd tasked it's been a another One of those weeks in Washington on the one hand news continues to come out of the impeachment investigation the latest is that the beautiful perfect transcript of president. Trump's phone call with Ukrainian Presidents Alinsky process trying to take aim at the Republicans best defense these days meanwhile congress trying to show that it can walk and Chew Gum at the same time with major hearings in the last few days from people who are thankful for impeachment including the CEO of Boeing and the CEO facebook Mark Zuckerberg both of them did get hammered capital In both of whom are thanking their lucky stars president trump exists It's been a lot over the way we killed Abu Bakar Alba Daddy Oh by the way I'm day by Steve Hayes and Jonah Goldberg there the duo behind a new media company called the dispatch it's a platform for conservatives to gather who still feel like there is a conservative movement even if Donald Trump has hijacked everything else whether you want to call them never trumpers trump skeptics or human scum which I believe John is your preferred Monica it was my name in high school so why would I abandon it now whatever you WanNa call them a break from our usual journalists discussion and just hear from Stephen John for a while and what better we have these guys on because we're going to talk to impeachments past and present and maybe a little bit about the Media Business Gentlemen welcomed both of you thanks for having a straight to beer it's totally are entrepreneur the entrepreneurial journalists which means you're you look Unshaven our and you certainly have untucked any one of the sponsors of my podcasts is untuckit modeling behavior the right away with the untuckit guys clearly are for the let's just say the guy that doesn't jog anymore it's all for if you don't like how you look at a Tux shirt I mean then call us yeah so it's really on brand for them to be works it works for us all right let's talk about news of the week and this which is and I wanNA start it this way Steve as your obsession of national security I know Oh well wired you are in on all of these things the capture of Al Baghdadi is this something that the president deserves credit for or did his policies speed spate basically is this because of him or in spite of him that we ended up doing this because the more we're learning the more you realize in this raid almost got ruined by the president's rash decision I mean I think anytime you have a president who presides over an operation like this one he deserves some credit I thought that about Barack Obama gave him a lot of credit I wasn't otherwise much of a fan of his terrorism Paul's what did you think of his prolong speech explaining what exactly the wrong wrong thing to do no I'm talking about Bronco Oh hito sorry they didn't talk about Osama bin Laden whimpering and cry Thomas was three minutes and thirty seven seconds and trump's I think was forty eight minutes was the EGOMANIAC yeah politics by the way yeah his his I thought his speech was House of Obama speech was very effective quiet to the point we are the the mightiest military power in the world. We can do these things we can we can come and kill you in the night and I've said and we'll never more effective way to do it yeah no question look I think I think trump does deserve some credit for for presiding over this operation anytime you have to make that call it's not an easy call to make you do something that you're GonNa get the blame if it goes badly that's right that's right that's what made the Obama thing like well helicopter down we saw Jimmy Carter that ended his presence right right so I think he deserves he deserves credit for that reason and look this was a stated objective of his campaign remember he was GonNa come and kick the bleep out of out of Isis he deserves credit I think for overseeing broadly overseeing that operation my main concern now remember what mission accomplished this I mean it certainly feels like that Barack Obama did that in may have to the net two thousand eleven and what the mistake Obama made was miss was was misunderstanding the killing of the the leader the killing of Bin Laden with the death of the movie went at John Brennan then Obama's top counterterrorism adviser actually gave a speech at the Woodrow Wilson Center in which she said this next decade we will see the demise al-Qaeda well the decade is almost up and we have certainly mourn yet more yeah and and Al Qaeda is still strengthening and growing I mean they're actually expanding what presence out Baghdadi hanging out in an al Qaeda correct controlled part of northwest Syria which to me was a huge moment joan why why do Republicans in the foreign policy establishment see right see how disturbing they're to one in Turkey and the influence that the president has their see the disturbance there and don't see it with Ukraine or at least don't want to express that publicly yeah no it's a good question I just one quick sort of parallel or alternative history point on the previous thing recall pick up on Steve's point the Obama Administration was bought into this idea eh the killing of bin Laden is dead GM is alive but that was instead they were they were into this narrative that the warriors over it was managed to the to shrink the tumor don't worry about it anymore and then the narrative that they had to stick to for the rest of the the ministry was every single time there's another terror attack they had to say it's the remnants or some lone wolf or disgruntled and they created this real anger among concern creatives who kept saying why won't you use the word terrorism won't Jihad you get that is the atmosphere that got brought us Benghazi right without Benghazi you don't find out about Hillary's email Server right and so this whole you we don't know where the stuff with trump is gonna go if he picks on when you start pulling on threads you don't think about where they're gonna go weird things on the Ukraine Syria thing I think part of it is that the Siri thing they it is an opportunity first of all on the merits it's just really bad right I mean we can just be clear about that right it's matter a little bit with the Kurds this is I think I feel like this is the mujahedeen all over got yeah when also just have everyone from Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham for ten years saying my idea of strong smart foreign policies the have the Kurds do a lot of the fighting for us we made them all these promises and then we screwed them and a lot of people I think morally feel bad about that at the same time the Siri thing allows a lot of Republicans to say hey look I'm not in lockstep with withdrawn billy defense criticizing him on this stuff but on the Ukraine is it really that big a deal and even though I think in a perfect world the Siri thing is just as impeachable Ukraine thing the way impeachments actually work medically the Ukraine things impeachable serious and what's funny about that is I'm sorry I I am very I I don't like to go down to many rabbit holes because I think too many journalists have I want to see the transcripts why does the air to want power over trump is is I just there is something we don't either we don't no or trump's just taken by one what's your I mean it certainly could be could be the ladder right we strongman we've seen president you know with this affinity for strongman almost regardless of ideology regardless of how they treat the United States doesn't shrink if they treat president trump well we're saying Nice things about saying things private about him he likes that if they treat the United States well that's almost secondary in some respects me he's with Kim Jong UN you've seen it with with air to one I think would be another primary example so I don't know I mean I'd love to see the transcripts to I'm not sure they'll tell us anything more than is already apparent it just seems twice now jona aired one has a call with trump and he's like yeah let's get Syria the first time has to resign right the second time they have to say Mr President we need to protect the oilfields by the way what do we make of the fact that essentially they're telling him a we need something don't you wanna protect the oil and he says Oh yeah I want to protect the oil okay we can have some trips in Syria yeah how disturbing that so I think when the history of all this is written get all the details that the the oil thing is going to turn out to be in effect a sigh up too strong a word this is all about convincing trump Jank they're faking it they're faking trump it is just one of these things that trump understands it's very sad for some for conservatives in the last twenty years arguing that neoconservative foreign power or was it about the oil about the oil now all of a sudden he's like this guy really is about the oil and so is that on the theorem on the thing about trump and his relationship with strongmen I tried regret how to articulate this theory there are people who hang out with movie stars right and they WanNa start thinking that there are movie star to that they're famous entourage like turtle like Oh yeah or like people hang out with really rich people they start thinking that they should live like rich people to that's usually when politicians I I always thought the bog McDonald's scandal was a scandal of everybody's get all of my donors are getting rich how come I don't have money right there's a great speech by Robert Duvall all in the movie the paper where he's explaining Glenn close so that just because you're hanging out with the rich and powerful doesn't mean you're one of them and people start overspending I think there's a thing about trump that he is so enamored with strong men and they're they're also doggedness and in so intimidate aided by them in a certain way and wants to be confused for one of them that when they make an ask he wants to show off and say the sure I can do that 'cause I'm I'm i`Ma leader like you I'm as strong as you are I'm not interesting not running just one of three branches of one of our fifty-six governments in this country I am in fact the man the man right and by the way I'm rich too but it's it's a chicken or egg question remember he was doing this during the primaries for that famous that famous I think it was a morning show appearance where he was praising Putin for for taking such a strong for Jilin journalist still you know by the way.

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"stephen hayes" Discussed on KTTH 770AM

KTTH 770AM

01:43 min | 2 years ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on KTTH 770AM

"The hook as sorry for bothering everyone for a couple of years or he's going to have to indict trump and the people around him on different things like the trump organization taxes lying to investigators things like that if he does that i feel like the american people are going to say really that's that's what we've been waiting two years to do that there was never any collusion and you're going to get these guys on all these little things so in that case i think things are going to end up well for us adam thank you for the call here's my number eight three three eight five two four eight six six do you think we need to have the the president go after putin or even as stephen hayes says okay stephen hayes is a little bit less than these guys over at red state who want trump to personally aku's accused putin of poisoning someone listening to steve hayes i mean i think this requires a presidential level statement the administration has does far tried not to get ahead of where the brits were on this they wanted our statements to match the brit statements as the brits got more aggressive the trump administration has gotten more aggressive but there's nothing that takes the place over presidential statement well there was a very strong statement by theresa may it was very strongly backed up by the united states do you think we need a presidential level statement we may be getting one soon but do you think that is something that is needed we all know that when donald trump is unhappy about something he's very clear about who is unhappy with and why he's unhappy we could see him i would say be tough on this and also added in a statement about continued russia cyber activities against the.

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"stephen hayes" Discussed on WDRC

WDRC

02:15 min | 2 years ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on WDRC

"First time and then lost in a primary to bear distefano unfortunately he'd and learned to go away after that he came back and then he won the party nomination the next time within eked out a disputed election the first time by winning over tom foley by a narrow five thousand votes but during that campaign that's the campaign of referencing during the campaign he did admit with nancy wiedemann by his side as she's banned the old time that he was opposed to the death penalty but then what he did with the help of andrew mcdonald and remember mcdonald where he was in the legislature opposed the death penalty and tried to get legislation passed to outlaw the death penalty unsuccessfully but then when mcdonald got to molloy's office and worked as his counsel they crafted they crafted a bill that would outlaw the death penalty in connecticut but governor malloy when he ran as candidate malloy said yeah i four outlawing the death penalty but it would never affect those already on death row including stephen hayes and joshua coma suggestion gaidar wouldn't affect them this this would not be retroactive but they knew he hainault mccoy's not stupid he's a lot of things he's cutting he's duplicitous he's a he's us cried at leftist so he's a lot of things he's a political hack he hands out corporate welfare he's a lot of things but stupid stout one of them calculating is one of them and he knew as did andrew mcdonald that if they could get a bill passed in connecticut that outlawed the death penalty so that joshua cominister jeff skis life could be stays spared so that stephen hayes life could be spared they know if they could get a bill pass that outlawed capital punishment even though they claimed it would not be retroactive somebody would then take the issue to court to say wait a minute you're not going to take the lives of those on death row the outlawed the death penalty you've got to make this retroactive and lo and behold that's just what happens somebody took it to court and by.

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"stephen hayes" Discussed on True Crime Garage

True Crime Garage

01:42 min | 3 years ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on True Crime Garage

"The little girl this was new information that further shocked the public in the poor family had to hear this information in person at the trial stephen hayes joshua had admitted to assaulting the girl orally but not this the jury also learned that the police had found pornographic pictures on joshua cell phone that were presumably taking taken by joshua during the time that he was assaulting the little girl the pictures showed michaela naked in tied to her bed in the showed joshua's jenna taily as well and the the pictures in this happen when stephen left get the gas round seven o'clock there was more than one assault um you know regarded however you look at stephen hayes a story also presented at this trial word the journal's of of joshua in which he referred to his breaking into homes as extreme sport in his diary he chose to call bill pettitte a coward and claimed that bill could have stopped the murders had he wanted to he said that jennifer the mother and wife was brave in the haley the oldest daughter was a fighter and again he said bill was a coward the man he had beaten over the head multiple times with a baseball bat i mean this is ridiculous that he would prefer refer to mr painted as a as a as a coward i mean we have stephen hayes stephen hayes says in his confession he says that josh hit mr petty in the front and back of the head with the bat as hard as he could.

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"stephen hayes" Discussed on True Crime Garage

True Crime Garage

02:11 min | 3 years ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on True Crime Garage

"Stephen hayes went in he perked purchase the gas um the gasoline in those two jugs he actually is bought seven o'clock he actually got lost on his way back to the home um driving around more than necessary he was communicating with joshua either by way of texture phone calls or both to try to find his way back to the pet it home which of course we know he ultimately did he unloaded the gas and then he drove mrs pet it to the bank of america he mostly drove around you had said yesterday that she was in their longer than he had expected and i think this probably made him nervous knowing that there would be some type of cameras are possible surveillance outside of the bank so he was driving around may be to hide his identity a little bit better um but during this time joshua still bank at the house he severely escalated the nature of the crimes that would be committed stephen hayes says that when he returned with mrs petty in the money back to the house the joshua had told him that he had sexually assaulted the 11yearold girl that was locked in a room upstairs he said that joshua provoked him provoked stephen hayes into raping mrs pettitte while hayes was raping her on the floor of the living room joshua entered the room at some point and announced that bill pettitte had excaped the house he ebola's be clear about this because you don't when their first arrested josh has come in out right away sinn my name is josh there's these boom here's the people that are in the house when stephen is arrested he doesn't give them the name he doesn't basically cooperate at all within hours they're both kind in turning on each other this is discharged it what kind of horrible pieces of shit these people are when they say all wall he provoked me to rape the mother yeah you could to set now you've got gasoline because you're worried about fingerprints and dna so you knew your glen torch this house.

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"stephen hayes" Discussed on True Crime Garage

True Crime Garage

01:49 min | 3 years ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on True Crime Garage

"Some attraction to the child he'd have flame did yeah and he decides to follow them to their home where he notices that they live in a nice neighborhood in a big house and i think he says quote it look like a nice place to be some day stephen hayes would tell us that joshua told him that he had liked the way the 11yearold girl looked stephen hayes messages joshua a he sends them a text message saying hey i'm chomping at the bit to get started need a maragarita soon to which he gets no reply from joshua seamen hayes then taxed later saying we still on question mark joshua replies yes stephen hayes wants to know if it will be soon in joshua answers i'm putting the kid to bed hold your horses seve and hayes then wrote dude the horses want to get loose l o l at some point the two men get together that evening and they decide to go out to a bar and they're having several drinks i'm guessing what they're doing is they're planning their attack because joshua is telling him about this home that he has become aware of the he followed these two people home from the stop and shop grocery store and he liked their house it was a big house there's probably lots of valuables in there according to haze is confession the two men had planned to rob the pettitte home under cover of darkness leaving the family bound but unharmed the man got into the home through the cellar door remember the cellar door that leads down into their basement from their backyard.

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"stephen hayes" Discussed on True Crime Garage

True Crime Garage

01:40 min | 3 years ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on True Crime Garage

"Anyway joshua is a pro at breaking into homes as a matter of fact that is like his speciality he's been arrested many times for breaking into homes yeah and i think when he was arrested one time he claim that he broke into 18 different homes so joshua started showing his new friends stephen hayes how to pick out a good house how to break in what to look for all that sort of stuff frei in fact just the day before they broke into the pet it's home the two had broken into several hopes stephen hayes was learning new criminal skills and joshua's now josh will now with the help of a partner with scheming other ways to increase the score plus it's widely believed that he wanted to store committing other types of crimes rather than just be any and burglary one of the questions becomes why did they pick the pettitte family well we have a situation captain where it late in the afternoon on sunday july 22nd 48yearold jennifer hawk pettitte she's with her 11yearold daughter michaela they went to that stop and shop grocery store in cheshire now during their trip to the grocery store somehow they attracted the attention of joshua karma said jeff ski who followed them home he was there waiting for somebody he said something like um correct contractor was supposed to pay him some money or something like that but anyway he he sees the woman in her child at the store it seems like he may have handsome.

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"stephen hayes" Discussed on True Crime Garage

True Crime Garage

02:09 min | 3 years ago

"stephen hayes" Discussed on True Crime Garage

"A few days later at the memorial services for the three victims jennifer pettitte in her daughters haleema kayla over four thousand people were present people came in from several states away all three were buried in white casket spur bills requests and somehow bill still nowhere near having recovered from the physical attack he had been subjected to somehow bill he had the strength to speak at that service now let's go back to monday july 23rd because right after the vehicle stolen by these two men jennifer's van had crashed into two police cars the police thankfully arrested those men right so now we have these two guys in custody the police arrested joshua karma said jeff ski he's he's younger than his partner in crime stephen hayes by about twenty years the two of them they shared the same set of issues both of these guys are career criminals they are in and out of trouble for most of their adult lives they both have problems with alcohol and drugs now both these guys up to this point were guilty of having committed pretty much just petty crimes you know uh breaking into cars stealing cars that was stephen hayes is thing within hours of the arrest stephen hayes was ready to confess intel the police just what went down the how in the uae now according to stephen hayes the two men he and joshua had met and a halfway house and became they became friends of sorts hayes would typically commit crimes to feed his alcohol and drug problems but he was a looking to quote unquote step up his game he wanted to start breaking into homes because he was under the impression that you will find more money and more valuables especially if you go and pick out a nice home and watch it for a while.

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