17 Burst results for "Stephen Espinoza"

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

Tha Boxing Voice

03:49 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

"You injured? I'm using an analogy. I mean, his his injury. And what I'm and you're more experienced than me. But if you. I haven't seen you profession picture. I mean, I have an interest in professional. I mean, well, you're you you just said you have four years working house barn. Professional professional spot people. I've never used the word professional nephews, the profession you have more. You are you saying you need more time in this. I'm not saying I need more time. I'm saying we have a God for you the same way. Maybe like the same way JD called in. And he and he has we have a guy for him like this. This less. On behalf of the UK. I want you. Okay. But you want me. Do you have more experience than me? I mean, I think he easier and you does that help Deo at this there. That's a fire respectful. Yeah. Man. I guess that helps I guess health help are you today picking on you, don't Mike. I want him to take it easy on. Okay. I do. Two hundred six five six five years, but the damn jabbing trade from dean, and I got all types of terms. I'm like AJ since I'm the side. I gotta do like AJ he has to come to the US. Not about to he. Manager me called out. I he can't go water and his corner because I have a water phobia water now because of neon AJ. So as his corner can. For fix for minutes. I got a phobia. Now, I'll have a doctor's excuse on hand water. I'm expert skin. Special bottle. I have the Panama Lewis special bottle. He can't have what it because I my therapist. You know, this should have serious like I'm afraid now like my girls kind of upset. I can't take showers. I'm so scared of water. I never like this thing when I got splashed it would have been cool to just like me and Neo. But it was like, knee, Neil and all this. And we just sat how half a million you even put your hand on the knob to even like attempted to turn it brother point at this point. I just sit in two and the nurse. You know, sponge bays me because. Screaming? I can't have a lot of water. I mean, it should I'm fucking. You know, I'm not ready a concert. I need more time on that note. Listen, I got hit the gym before the fight reviews on duck out. So I can get near for the fight review. So patriots only we get that fight review pop in and can't wait to see it. Maybe cross a line somewhere. But damn I don't know what happened. You can call in got one from Adrian Taylor Ness, a duck. Yeah. They come. I know man. We've got all kind of ducks in just call and vegetal. So it is are you a bitch. Bor. I mean, look I'm a bitch. I mean what what the age. Spirit, though. My my don't ever help. I'm aging. I'm ancient I wouldn't have be rushed. You know, AJ said two thousand twenty and two thousand seventeen like what the fuck was the big deal. Like, they can't get mad at me. They didn't get mad at AJ unless they're hypocrites..

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

Tha Boxing Voice

05:11 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

"I'm done with child. That was the last caller. I am done with this month, boom marine. Obviously, go ahead. I got to get the fuck away from Mike. Fan, but all these negative way on have man sometimes. Sometimes you. Bro. You love. I want. Where does he get around? Mario and start changing now. Now, it's three of them from fucking low. Hey, why don't? Nigger head tall. You look strong from your shoulders up man for the The fuck. fuck already. Come to you again. I come for you, again, if you're meringue again a man coming anyway young man, I think I think I'm older than you though. The one client about twenty one euros need respect. Oh. Anyone you're twenty one and you can tell you. I'm. I'm sure. Tell you until you can shortly to on. Are you one woman you sound short black woman with a Spanish night? I'm not I'm going through. About usual to. About my guy. Kinda got heated. Talk to me, don't respect short black women out there for that. If. Telling fibs is that you case smoke caught missed with this. Tell him again and crime. Isn't that? Going on. I guess he thinking got balls. But if that's his this shit's ridiculous, you an ink on a tree kissing that in rom. So what? At it. Almost ninety. Mario. But but I guess when Mario thirty seconds calls already wasted. Go ahead. Go ahead finish. Unreal. Fifty. Actually. So he says she got down by new down. Why there? One another. We're looking for that going. Last thing. I did was letting meal lick me down some UK. Yeah. Lick them down like a stamp now. I'm gonna use it. Because AJ said it that's your. That was last caller AJ settling down in verse. I'm use it against narrow govern bar for your our. 'cause I got beats made me find some be put a beat on. Mario. I really. That's what people were saying in the chat last time our own ever do it over a beat. But the last time we tried it over beat it sound like shit. Remember, nobody can hear it because I really got the beat. Anyway, though, like, they sent me new b but I ain't got it on board. So I wanna do with on any RV say a Khan, remember one thing, I said, the truth your soul phone might skid speak. Now you want to not my head off. He put hey, but I mean put him, but I don't believe this head should I worry about improve your Mike now going down the road, hands up, son. This is dangerous life. You don't want this injuries? It should've said that would arrive of sounded RV RV. I'm glad that you support the show with that. You know, the traffic are to have inli- He end. ended the woman how about signign. I mean, he sounds like a Roman. Don't give a fuck about. None of that ship. Even in the ring onto the whole fire engine are already. You was in the ring. You have before did you in miniature spa, you ain't spun them professional level professional, so he Konin got unaware about healing. Just two of of these coolant that smoke. You got to love Americans. You you like to you don't have to back it up with. But you talk. Get emotional and he shouts. We don't have to back you up with you. Don't you don't backup. We back. Never been in business and the names of dominant last time I checked excuse me. In the words dominate last time. I checked last time I checked nessa chairman board awards and definitive side of once you oh. Oh with two call outs already pick one. Which one? I'm ready. I'm ready. I'll even that you pick nets. I'll even let you. Even UP. I don't get involved in that. We'll do it fair and square. You know, you you you the Eisai..

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

Tha Boxing Voice

04:46 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

"He fulfilled his contract at the he probably lawyers to look. Listen. He you getting he he fulfilled it, but he forced Showtime to work with H B O. Did he not? But anyway, cut it that much. I'm gonna go out on break ally. Like this. Check check. This mad got down money on my nigga or veer. Now saying I think I knew I knew it was show. He for a while from going for the for the full round knockout Herman if he don't and thing in the I did and say better you gotta chopping not like this. Either say you ready for the faction voice, though, if you got writes this rose five for 'cause everybody that came on for from the UK any lands on. And then they won't go and start their own channel and trope about this fucking shit. You're when they could as, you know, saying you gotta get skin for this ship built put it don't come on the show, commonly sue, which support no sense, the background. But once you once you put your face out, then you get on the scene at it. Hey, you got to be ready for caravan? I say robotic only Joel now saying and. The fight cut it strat Ryan broad. I realized how good fucking are. You are brought into unto gentleman. From the. And that's the reason why her coming at Showtime like this. He's trying to each get demand the streets AJ, don't promote that you don't talk. He barely likes to get physical Deontay of man trying to make Showtime Dame's Lennon by The the foot. foot. That's actually like a real question real quick before. We let you go. What are you from TM one? Oh, four are you segment to be like the first one? Are you beckoning a classic? Or are you do things easy? And and got to know more. Jay got it. I mean last time I you know, he's been around for a minute. My my dog already. Did. I mean. You're already know. I hope you listen to the last time you said, I was a different part. Could it? The minimum. These treat me got diarrhea flow now shit on. Star Steph gone once Skype star Steph going twice. You added doubling back on all mall? Once. You're ready starts to me. A mess talking about Eddie handgun behind the most to get defiant on. But what you glad AJ food was on a good Fatimid, excuse me. About hun going behind shelter about to make the clicks, go fight. Yeah. It was to make But bradtha. I don't give a about that. The argument is was he, trustworthy and Espinosa show that he wasn't but doing backroom deals lying to fucking corporations about contracts, but it's not it's not a breach of contract if they find for show. I never said it was I said it was unethical to lie and say that AJ did not have three more fights remaining with Showtime underline. It was on air also know behind times back. That's what I'm saying. What do you mean center? Same thing. He lied to HBO the age of those Showtime us, what does the weeds? What does the weasel care by this is what I'm saying? Yeah. Lights gloss over because it's AJ. It's like, oh, yeah. But he was lying. But so what why why does he care? He's like he's proving earned when the five with over Showtime and his next three five zero Showtime. He's lived up to the deal. He lied about AJ not having three more fights contractually obligated to Showtime. What the fuck don't you get live up to its contract though? It didn't like they brought the country..

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

Tha Boxing Voice

05:17 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

"For me. I don't know this. I know I know my worth like. I have been a mess with mine for like six months now. Oh. No RV who Harvey air. Now. My share Harvey Billabona now. You might. This. Curry is worse because he's a pound for pound support. On your up. I don't care about the endless say I'm gonna give you my loyalty as TV host. But like the truth is true. You just got on camera today. You can't claim he side. Now Boorda wars is taking place in June. You are AJ's coming. I just don't know. Why don't you come? If listen, you know, I meant to be inside if I can cancel that our on. I have no. Into of these US coolers, these guys cool in and they talk, but we never do is talk. Your for your for all people, you're all people in the chance to Portland main and let him come over to the US as. The. Go. If y'all want him come over and get this RV. I I can I can I can do AJ AJ I can happily come to your backyard. How much do you weigh? You do look a little like you were. Bit. So I hope the oldies guys cooling in you know, I hope you guys are bench. And I hope you're working up to. Must while in our one hundred and three K G. You're your. Artery. While Mario does stone stone sixteen fucker how that's six three. Oh, that's like train. Like. I'm twenty. Gosh that's perfect because our visa heavyweight already a big money matter of settling it and getting it done, and we'll get to that. But all right. So we got two crucial. He's busy. We're gonna go to Mike on a UK talk to me. What's going on? Michael guys going of come come on the legs. I know waving talking about some talk about the headline is by espionage and Betty Hon far as I said is that. Did you call him Betty her? Now, Eddie Hon said Betty. You know, how I is Eddie, HUD, is saying that Stephen has been there is drought lion. And he wants to see proof. So basically, if if was the Espinoza doesn't show proof then as far as I'm concerned, he's lying because in the FDA has not really out of the head and say someone saying blatantly lie before he's normally trying to dodge we've, but he's saying, he's straight outlying. He checked everybody send the Email showed the proof. You know? So and the day has asked also the coal yesterday. The proof now go permission show the Email evidence. So that's my my take on it. Yes. Carry on good show. And also, the U K don't Americans, the hustle you. You know what I mean? Kicki stand your ground represents represent right? They love in the car. Now, man he wanted to Tyson fury to come and say he'll fake. Let's. They wanted a UK. Gotta look like a con and not look like some of the other UK that we had on. Reading. What was that mean? I'll just saying they wanted like that dude that could that could talk that shit and. So you're saying they RAFI don't look the part. I. Ravi. Don't look the part party that we go to mo- mow it up with going on. What up? No, you the man. I just wanted to say that she was talking about the contract. And how unethically was this is this is said, I never used the term contract. He tried to come out of the contract. He said he said is on ethical. Let me say the contract was at loose words. I'm probably out just folks and. Is business. It's not personal. It'd be on Muhammad says and also bar you. Are you a boxing fan, or are you a lawyer and accountant, and like why why do you care about business? But you were saying, oh, this will you went into you went into that saying it's unethical..

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

Tha Boxing Voice

02:46 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

"So sign up for his own get that and watched him as informed fight us, the Amazon linked to do all your shopping through that link. It costs you nothing. But we do get a little kickback every time you use that link. Also, we are possibly doing a special show over in the UK if everything right? It's spilling all of these. I'm a big believer TV. And so on. If everything goes, right? And and everything will be over there in the UK. We come in the yard. We're trying to make it a surprise. But I guess Mike. My. But. I'm into us, so possibly rain code. That's that's as far as you put these throw, water and beer. We've you. I didn't even get that. I I'm score. When I get there. I'm gonna bring a raincoat anyway, because you know, push these bleed. So I just don't wanna get wet and border wars. More fifteen. Mario is going to be in the rain. Maybe the main event Eric cruise versus my guy Jose Jose something from. Canetti jose. Today, we doing film study Tuesday's on Canadian Jose's fi, we're going to expose the truth. And if you wanna see a good main event, I'm telling these guys have no love loss is going to be a nice nice fight. Let's go Margaret got a I know my my guy Anthony from natty. But I don't think Anthony got what it takes to overthrow. Mario Anthony Anthony was up at four in the morning. So my two days. Ooh. For the morning. I've been doing today. I didn't Ramos sponsor, you could say you, you ain't tech. You know, what I was working because I was working, right? You only good for the only thing good. My phone good for is playing my music. Oh, my. Ignore. Ignore. Because I stay working when I get my on responded when When I'm in I'm the in the gym, gym. you know, what would have been the the best you know, how to Sykes that is at that. Same time in the morning like you said, you know, full he can answer he was working the minute. He stopped all sweaty drill picture because what awards chapel outta then why it would have been good as he was fucking sleeping counting sheet because he for Manchester. We're going out to I will power for Pasa porter on the in the Noli. What up? Veiled, come on with it Telhami. I don't understand the psychology behind this. What he's trying to say about Eddie. There's only with three or four big players in the industry..

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

Tha Boxing Voice

04:21 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

"Six so Tom deal after just three days. It's not surprising. That you won't. Remember this one either? Ooh. Damn, okay. Followed on my my hold on white day. When you said that. So he said again, I'm not going to expose private business arrangements in the twin discussion it we just discuss what he expose AJ going to negotiate with Showtime HBO when he was in contract. But he contracted himself already. He he's kind of. As the trees, he said, then put out anything. The public didn't already know exactly. I think they both came off looking bad. I'm going gonna read what I see. And I'm gonna give you my opinion about SO might look like I think that they both came off looking bad. Here is opinion from the side of Manchester. Bring all right. Listen say, look, they both came off looking bad. All right. They both came off looking petty. All right. I it should have never been discussed in open form like this of. But at the end of the day. Spills onto the one thing I really shouldn't be discussing over form it's being discussed because only one listen to me. Why do you think a Showtime executive is replying to trolls? Because he cried so time executive is under significant pressure. Okay. Actually, the first time Eddie them went back and forth on Twitter either. We're not talking to quit might not Eddie come on play catch up. Man, man. He was. Is because you realize that you're not in Jamaica. No more like he's like take it back out on everybody else. What's going on? Because I know I heard on the cold is because I realized that you like you must have grew up on Veselin. So you'll be awesome tag team shit, regardless of how right around the top again. Pointing out that as another saying, hey, that was public info that was already out. I'm not acting. I'm going by what I see what I read. I'm not going to be on time. For motor who's causing. All this was just because he got his fight a more money could business business. This laughing like he that's not good business. It's such good business that true people who've done business now, obviously cannot, and that's why all this is public. That's the whole point. We come full circle to Mario's last sense. It's like, oh, this shouldn't be happening. It's happening because only one guy only one guy was unethical and he took his game somewhere else. Dislike. Mario says he did was best for his crying. But he did it. That's why there's one bidder exec because he's getting the heat that economies talkin about. But from a different angle accounting getting heat for losing. He's getting heat in his opinion. Because people don't believe that he's done what he said. He's done. So now, he's starting to show you this is the truth. This is the truth. But you guys still rather believe the lie. And that's why you heard the lady ten seconds is been done. Never never heard. Oh, never knows whether line never never up at all. I only said it was a good business by Eddie Hearn. One site side wrong sides of the fence. I'm. Yes, you are. Yes. You are business side. I'm gonna boxer. I want the fight. I want to fight the saying good business move. This is a fucked up move for the paying customers. The one is paying ten dollars for his own six dollars for ESPN ten dollars for show, Tom. Thank god. We ain't gotta pay HBO anymore. Okay. We gonna say that all of that Kim's down to this one deal that as earn. The her maid comes down. Got. People are network. Bring checkbook famine salad seeing you in. Mario are on a huge platform. I mean, Mike and Mary on a huge platform here. You know, giving these boxing fans the option to think this was a good business. No this fucked up their main course..

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

Tha Boxing Voice

05:14 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

"Or do you think? Think it's not like I said, hey, would you rather die? Listen, be ethical or be like rich and have a skew a deal here. They're like that's not what I said. I can be man that balloon is getting bigger and bigger. Learn. Business in ethics are supposed to go together. But sometimes good business does away with the ethics. Sometimes what I'm saying. You write this? I can funny face forget who yard. That's all. You forget that. You started off as boxing fans. You know? I got people in the chatroom my own nets beggar Eddie. Yeah. I'm begging that to make the fucking best fight we want you fucking dummy. Wake up and smell the coffee. You don't want the best. And and no he did the right thing for AJ Tyson fury. Did was right nigga. I don't give a fuck about that. I want to fight. I want to fight. You calling me a dick rider because I'm dick writing the situation because I don't make Doman saying nobody calling you a dick rider ain't we don't want to fight. You don't want to. Tyson fury made a fucking businessman. You don't want the fight. I he made a good this move. But he also made a shit decision to sit on that contract. It could be. The camera interview on no one saying like, bro, you know, by going over there, you made it harder. Like don't act like you ain't lifting was one negative interview. Fear Suzanne talking fucking fucking feel as the question one. And then say Suk fucked up fucked up. Perfect. Lease at least, you can admit it might lot people can't. Caring now people like you and Mario can emit ran on. Why are you so city about a guy trying to make a different fighter instead of? Yeah. Right here. No next time. I'm gonna be I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna take necessary for it. If you gonna be like, yo you think this subject to let's move it on. Remember, I want I want the best face. I'm not saying one of the best shows. Go to five though, bro. You make me. And Mario saying Josh would never fight wild. Josh fiery. Right. My I was going to save this one like ace and a whole like if we. Bring it out. Snag it down. Like if it was dominoes. But like, you think you slick you say praising fury, you know. Well, actually, he's mad at Fiorillo. He's married over there. Ain't you? But you ain't Matt Crawford CR saying. Learning. Trump. I through x Averill. Verbatim. I cannot be mad at Tyson theory. If I'm not mad at at Terrence coffers Begum, I verbatim. Also now you Eddie now you Eddie say one thing today. Few seconds later said nother who. Decide wiz y'all. Fooled. You. Little is you mad. If you're you're not I can't be mad at. Coffered? And they fight fair. I wanna see in with the PBC. Right away and fair. I wanna see feary in water as a businessman in the business. Major now respect let business do less. You're doing too much actual question. I hear you course. Oh, you mad. If you. Fighting. So then why you not mad at cough. But I don't need you to answer that I'm headed move on. Yes. The question and tell them to move on. Because look I s but Nozoe prove that Mike is untrustworthy. He can't be trustworthy MB trust the he'd like one deal for. Doesn't like one deal for fury but likes that same deal for Crawford. Like. Doing new day had that he had that for forever Akon. Go ahead. You did the one thing that you didn't really you grossed over is that you took one part of what Spinoza said, and you use that to say, well, this means Eddie Hon, isn't trustworthy, really and truly the argument on Twitter the public spat was really about was a contract sent the country fifty minutes right here. Yeah. Heads show contract. And to save them way that he showed the little the little clip or the little screen shot of the agreement that he alleged that was breached or that he believes entered into unethically..

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

Tha Boxing Voice

02:35 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

"The thing that I do not come through ish in either. Hey money. How you doing? It's more McGhee here. Now, I wanna talk to your quick about the card about about your team. In fact, let let's get into your team a little bit. Now, you were originally signed to ring star promotions, you were there fifth fighter signed by Richard Schaefer. But the Leo Margolis Cardi fought on this weekend. I believe that was what it was. It was worse. Boxing card talked a little bit about how your fight come together. Who's making the moose for you? Who's making the decisions who's presenting you with these fights. You know, what say it was pulling the strings not like that. But basically who's presenting you with these things who was talking to you about your future. What are they saying? Will ring star. I'm I'm still trying to them. And luckily, richer Schaefer, it he she pushes to have me on different platforms. They could get me out there. More to be completely honest with you. I'm not one hundred percent, sure. What goes on behind the scenes when I get the call. They tell me what's going on let my team know and stuff like that. And really just wherever they tell us. I'm supposed to be fighting it. I just make sure that I'm training hard. So whenever I get that call. I'm ready. I wish I had to answer for you. I'm sorry. But as just a little bit over my head. I I wish I knew, but it's just whenever they tell us aid money ever fight here. Okay. This is finding like when they told me, I was fighting pairs originally signed. The ring star Richard told me we're going to try to get you on as many different platforms, including the countries as possible. And luckily, I was able to fight him. Twice and fight in London in the open arena last year that was amazing experience. But I'm not a hundred percent, sure. What goes on behind the scenes in terms of the business aspect of it? But well, let's talk about it. Like this money. I'm happy with. Let's go ahead. Go ahead. I was gonna say money as seems like you taking the changes in fighting or the actually the locations in fighting fairly. Well, but does that make it hard to stay prepared? Or do you really have to live that kind of cliche? You know, stay ready. So you don't have to get ready. I'm not done a lot of you guys when euro pretty young in your career Steele..

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

Tha Boxing Voice

02:46 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

"I mean, he you is it was ridiculous. How much money is bringing it from gambling? So he had my Granddad and he passed the name on the. Him because he was making a crazy amount of money in my Granddad had my my dad and then pass name on the meet my dad was actually going to be named silver. The name was actually going to end because unfortunately, my grandad's brother passed away when they were children in tornado. So he was going to pay homage to his brother name my dad, silver. But you decided to keep the legacy going this name him money. And my dad has it on me. Whereas very very intriguing story. So now people know how the main name money powder for came about. Now. I wanna get to the fight over the weekend. Man, you had a very very impressive performance on a PBC on emphas- one of the body. The body punches was was beautiful, man. The punch election was awesome in you. You really set up their right hand. What was your game plan going into that fight? And what you looking to a compass something in F, I or were you trying to get that guy outta there. Well, we really were it hard this camp on body shots. Because like I said I feel like body shots kinda neglected in a way because a lot of guys really want. The pretty knock outs from the headshots. But I feel like body shots. They're they're different than his because if you're a fighter and you've been in the game, we all know when you get hit with a really good body shot. You can't just shake that off. They stay with you for rounds. I mean, it can paralyze the bottom part of your body. But we really weren't hard on that me and my coach and this fight. We knew the guy like come forward a lot because we've seen him. I actually knew him when I was younger because while I was still J on amateurs all junior Olympic. He was already opened. So I had I had watched them some I was a kid, and I he's a he's a come fighter likes to mix it up. So we. I could've obstinate from the outside. But my coach always tells me said money when you get in their own your greatness, and you know, work on everything we worked on the gym. So we got in there. Listen to my coach follow the game plan. We're going to try to slow on body shots and the right hand really just came off the bye shots from the inside started uppercut coming on role within came back with the counter right here. But we were really really hard. This can't. And luckily paid off all gore to God though. 'cause without him. I wouldn't need you've been able to get in that rain. So I'm just happy. I have a great team behind me. And without them is well, my wonderful team..

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

Tha Boxing Voice

04:18 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

"Go. See a do you need a fucking type before you now to what don't you get? He was in a six fight contract decided after three to walk and tell another entity is men was for re don't you get he says, I guy is for read understand that's on us. No, it's not illegal your head your your arguments on ethical now. It's on ethical it's business. So I think you'll grossing he's doing Mario said he's doing the best by his client. He made. It was also shown on Showtime. It's unethical. You could say, oh, people would agree with it. It's no eagle Akon. I'm not going to continue to allow you guys to say that. Hey, he lied. But it's okay. He's guilty with an explanation because ultimately he's looking out for age as best interests. I. Don't care what we are here to prove is that Espinosa was trying to show us. This man can't be trusted here is why. But you guys are such that you keep saying it don't matter because ultimately he was looking out for AJ. So fuck you fuck if he lied to Shota fuck if he lied to HBO he was looking out the AJ, and we're just inundated be happy. John king can't be trusted. Don king. Don King ripped off his clients. Don King ripped off his fighters. Dunking took money out the pocket of these minutes. He he made deals that absolutely were against his fighters. Best interest. Okay. Eddie heard if he were doing that stuff to AJ than. Yep. -solutely? He's unethical. Absolutely. He can't be trusted. But even when Osas coming from this is a one-sided party. He's only seen it from his bits anew. I was going to be in this situation. Because all I do is fight uphill battles. Like, this is the say, y'all takeout name. Look, I'm taking out AJ. And I'm putting in Tyson. You mother fuckers respect the guy that got shot not the niggle hitch trying to kill you mother. Fuckers Jake Tyson fury, we take it. Then we now hit goes Tyson. He's negotiating with while the but guess was secretly ESPN. But somehow. While does that full. Oh, no, no. You bring up my point. Don't. Are you get mad what basis for most of the morning because you guys are fucking like, I don't know. Yeah. Like, dick skull this hell like my man telling you, he ally, he giving you facts the homeboys alive. But now here in the lions because guess what he got AJ his pockets Fateh, man, you guys are fucking Weber. Just with. Recap on his show is all I know. Okay. We can. We got on the Lohia money pilot, fourth number several six are would assemble six. How the going Mr. money out of four men? Have you on the show? How going this morning. Good morning. I'm glad to be on a whole all you guys are doing will have one of the morning doing great doing great now. Let's let me backtrack a little bit. Let the people know in my panel. No, how did the name money Powell the fourth come about? Will the name of money actually, originated back in Mississippi? My great great grandfather was a farmer, and he he named his Trojan after how much money he made that year from forming, and he had a lot of kids and money was one of the children because he made a lot of money that you're selling crops. So he named one of the children money, and they all worked on a farm, but money was the only one who was like really against hard work. He did not like it at all. So they you're gonna work or you're gonna have to leave so money said, you know, what I'm just going to get it on my own. He decided to move out and he became a real big Showtime gambler. And from what I was told from my dad, and my grandfather's that he was bringing in so much money..

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

Tha Boxing Voice

04:32 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on Tha Boxing Voice

"I'm sure this s surp- look for mayor familiar to you. Exit. Great. Mario you said it was a it was an excerpt from it looks like receipts that they broke down may be sent across a certain divisions at Showtime, but it said television distribution, sky's sports will be the exclusive pay per view distributor, dis- distributor in the UK. So long as the revenue split and the retail pricing proposed by sky are acceptable to the wilder side. Such acceptance will not be unreasonably withheld or delay. So that was his smoking gun Stephen Espinoza, but I'm gonna let s finish up because I like we're going with this. He's talking about elevating this with these sort of tactics, right? I just feel that espionage was trying to. Show us that Eddie is incredible. You know, if Eddie already had think about it that he had a six fight deal with Showtime three fights he decided to cross the street and see what he could do I fighter and that's perfectly. Okay. But it's obvious from Espinosa tweet that HBO was told the opposite of the truth, which was that AJ was a free agent and began to negotiate with Vladimir Klitschko Eddie is smart. I can't even front like I mean, I thought that there was something in the contract. Employees goes something in place with something like this like how could he be contracted to Showtime walk to HBO make a deal with Vladimir and now COPA mo-? Because that's what happened. He lied. Community crisco rights were to HBO. Right. And that's farm. But he lied to HBO. You know, got you gotta soon they got further in negotiations because they thought Joshua was a free agent then at the last minute lineup up. Now, we actually were Showtime. So you gotta deal with Showtime to finish out the deal. You got a hammer out the the the distribution rights are like, I don't know. I mean that right. Dear blew me away. Because that's something big, you know, contracts in place three fights over eighty took place. Why is he telling HBO these things? But you know, I'm sure that the sheep will just look over that. No. It's not about looking over it neces- about understanding what that means. You're look up for anybody who wants to be a smoking gun. It could be a smoking gun assure. It was a lie. But do we care? It hurts whether it was a lie because he told HBO one thing and it wasn't true. But it'd be a bit the Josh wasn't a contracted to the to the crisco right to like Showtime right in during that type yet. Yes. It was. Joshua had one more fight with crisco only Showtime, and that was the last one, right? Well, it was right app. That time he had told them that they were that they were free of the contract before that fight to me on any Hearn part. It sounds like good business. Exactly. Yes. Is. He he's being he had a contract. And he went and dream would would would arrival network in the middle. But this is what you hire men like that do three fights in already there were three fights into a six fight contract. This is what you hire. That's right. This is unethical. I don't know if the corners. Are you gotta deal employee at work and now where to do business with another one because you. Understand. But Eddie also says you lost age because Showtime run out of money. That's been didn't actually come back and say anything in relation to the comet. So if well nj. Yeah, he did though he said we did fights in two thousand eighteen but I agree though. I don't think that proved that they still had the money to complete the AJ that makes Espinosa Aligarh if showtimes budget they could not match or compete with the dissolved offer. How does that make Spinoza liar?.

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show

The Adam Carolla Show

03:12 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show

"So you're are you at sixty five percent a little bit over that. We had one annot last week. God that is that is impressive, man. I'm a little frayed because I know you have a lot of high school kids that listen to the show, and they're going to think, you know, RJ makes it look so easy. Maybe I should drop out of college skip college and become professional batter. I just wanna say it's not this easy. No, it isn't. And also, I bet if you follow Dr J around for day wouldn't wanna be RJ bell. And that's not a criticism. Not a criticism. I'm just saying tell the young people listening do right along with RJ the beige camera into cloth interior, what we know we loveless relationships townhouse pram and see if you want to. Jay, that's already Emma palace. Crying in front of a puff. Tapped out I would say this. You don't wanna work for me? That is. You do not want to work under his tutelage. All right. So last week you were right about the pats. The patriots I've always said never never bet against the patriots. And I never would bet against them. But they have a way of eking out a win and the San Diego snake bit. And this time they literally just let this NAACP bite them in the second quarter and got it over with normally comes down to the end this time. You're right. They just opened a can of wolf pass on the patriots. And it was a bad situational spot for the chargers. They had traveled ten thousand miles in the last couple of weeks and bowel check hadn't left his house, literally. So I actually segues in Casey. So last week we only had one best bat I'm going with both. I like both of these games, which is rare. There's only two I one Kansas City lane the three in this game. And if you look at it patriots look better than their truth because of the situation. Negative that the chargers had. And then I think the patriots on the road are as bad as been this whole Brady ballot. Check era in this is a road game there. They've won sixteen straight Adam at home, the pats below five hundred this year the on the road now, and I agree and the thing about the patriots. This year is even though they were look dominating last week. Although it's tough to tell against sandiego because there's still the chargers and they've never really established a legacy and they've never even rivers and everything they want a lot. But I don't know that anyone really think they're the real deal, you know, to be the real deal you've got to put together a few seasons and few championships. But anyway, they also looked the patriots real mortal a lot this year more so than ever on the road, mostly. So I mean think about the lions dominated. Yeah. And the Tennessee titans dominated them. That is good. I like that pick. I was wrong last week..

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show

The Adam Carolla Show

03:54 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show

"Don't move. He said, yeah, he's got my digits to reach out to so, Freddie, I would say most athletes football baseball gotten bigger gotten stronger. Would you say the best of the eighties? Let's say away sugar. Ray durant? How they compete against the best of the guys in the last decade. I liked that arizo much maybe. 'cause I was part of it is I think it was a much more crafted area. Much more what crafted Haider's back then. And even like when people say kid out beat Sheeran Lenin. No, you tell him that. Yeah. Sure. I live. Eight time world champ guys, not being the Philippines. He's honest. Five became a ten though because we worked up to get better. Well, we did I I'm not kidding. Whether you're a fighter whether you're comedian, or whether you're in rock band, you have a ledger. It is ability natural, Billy comedic ability, physical, -bility musicality. And then there's work ethic. You want to be the greatest musician the world over here's junkie will. Then it's going to be hard to have a lot of platinum records once in a while, you take that comedic ability, and you meet the work ethic. I've always said that a guy like Jimmy Kimmel Jimmy is funny. He's not the funniest guy. You know? He's funny. His work ethic. His approach to comedy while. Norm. Donald is walking around with Kleenex boxes for slipper somewhere. Potted plant right now how are used Howard use? Dial his comments and said many times. Well, then what's it? Good for. You know what I mean? What what are we going to? What are we going to do with it? There's fighters that way there's comedians that way Rockstars way. There's every facet of life has a version of that. And the true champion. So the guys who take the ability in Mary it to the work ethic. Afraid you're so truthful, I can ask you this question. I'm so fascinated by the answer. Let's say Mayweather impact Yao fought once a year for seven years during their prime. What's the what's the tally during their prime? Five to two pack. Yeah. Wow. He's been honest. See that's what he does. He sets us up with the he's five Billy part of many lies fucking ass off. And we have to believe. Of though, I say sets you up Panama set me back just tell my said. Right. Thank you. Freddie. Roach by always best of luck Saturday night with the boy, Manny and such a such a great guy. Oh, real quick. Is he going to be the king of the Philippines, or the president of ilippines the Philippines? I president world champion until he's going to be president and his he's forty day. He can he can run now. Oh, there is a laws. Oh, yeah. You better watch yourself. Okay. Well, that's good. Don't tell me. Panama. Joe mason. Of course, tell us. Right, ready rock. Good luck. We love rent. What he is truthful, man. He gave an eight time world that was awesome. That was. All right. Let me give you thirty over here with guy co everybody love me,.

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show

The Adam Carolla Show

05:38 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show

"My stupid Dacles all fucked up, and my hands are mess now barely disclosed to hiring. A guy beat me off this close. It's not gay. Be guy though, it would be about a weirdo buried Jesus Christ. I went out with your hands. Fuck up, it's not fucking cheating. It's like the handicapped parking space into fuck and gals that you're not an asshole view park. Upfront legitimate reason, no clouds mean attack over here. Hands are fucked up in all the stupid things. But does your doctor neurologist he say all this activity is constantly sort of keeping you connected in pretty much hand eye coordination and just drills like that. And his work every day, not being lazy and just living a clean life. I gotta say I was saying to my guys when they said, Freddie, Roach going to come in and talk to said, how's he doing like it's in good shape? Can he do conduct an interview because if you years ago, I think you're more symptomatic than you are now? And so I was doing a math where he was shaking shaking a bit a few years ago. What's he like now in he is night and day, which you don't really see when people have at disease normally gets progressively worse. So is there medication thing or treatment than unaware? I Dave Indication indication's. for times day, and he is how the doctor like well, you can change that one little bit. And he says, well, you doing really well you have that. I makes me a little bit tired. He won't say we're right now because he's doing so. Well, okay. He won the arguments. You know what I love about? Freddie Roach, other than again, just very interesting American story, transcends boxing. I think you and teddy. Atlas must be the two most honest people on the planet. I've never heard unbridled honesty come out of to happened about being the same sport. But I don't know if you're friends with teddy atlas, but I've never heard either one you dodge question or say anything, but exactly what was on your mind. Not speaks his mind to be dick just speaks his mind. The question pretty teddy. And I when when he when he quit my Moore and Comoro he's little Matt you ma-ma the pass away gave me like nicest phone, call all time is very very very kind of do that. And it was unexpected. And. So I can't say any bad guys hadn't really talked for longtime. Never. Yeah. We winning going same together one time because he felt like he stole his fighter. Guess there's a certain amount of that in life. I remember when I took Panama Lewis guy back in the day mum's pretty pissed for while. But we've we've we've banded. I don't know if you've talked to Panama awhile, he's probably dead Nazi dead. Now. He's yeah. Well, I haven't spoken while. But if he's creek Japan Telecom said, hi. Tell me what you feeling. Panama is a crazy famous fighter and he trained God, the guy fought Alexis, grow Jesus, what's his name one really one of the best fighters ever. Who's never never gets mentioned crystal. Look it up on his on his phone rail. Funny prior Aaron Pryor. Visit aarp. Yeah. Air prices. Yeah. One thing that's nice about being these these press junkets, the only time he goes guy fought our ground seventy four. Okay. You don't get that at the puff Aor the relent. Well, that's a twenty year old. Air prior. Earn prior man that guy that guy was fucking great fighter. And I mean, his fight with electric rail is. They twice I know. But the first by I fight is at pick. And it is certain. He's beating the shit out. Alexis was like the biggest unbeaten fee, non whatever and has certain point Alexa, GRA hits it with an uppercut. That's like a Mike Tyson. Uppercut just crazy crazy and air price. Head a rock them sock of Lulu goes up staring at the chandelier the ballroom like literally goes up to ninety degrees. That's how hardy hit a he just kinda got back down and got settled and got back over Panama Lewis was in the corner going give me the water and the guys like, okay. Not that water the water I met. Later on. Tap water. You a water? My one special mix water. That was a great line. Water. I managed. It's just water. Okay. Anyway, see Panama tell Mesa he's done Florida. He's still around still moms feel about a I little bit..

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show

The Adam Carolla Show

04:12 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show

"Thanks for joining us. We'll pull that Mike up to you is closest we can get new speak right into Freddie, Roach, legendary trainer. And and a really interesting American. I would say I don't I don't think everyone knows that Freddie, had a pretty luxuries pro career. I don't know. What the oh there? We are. Sorry. Forty and thirteen is pro fighter got out. He didn't. Did you leave boxing with anything in your pocket? No, I was I was broke. And I had job at a telemark. Geting Kevin telephone salesman. What was your biggest payday as a boxer seven thousand five hundred and what was your record at the time twenty seven to feigned Camacho Camacho? Yeah. He's making him a lover. People forget about Hector macho Camacho, but he was 'nother name he was one of the first one of the first, but one of the one of the big time characters boxing when he was one of these guys he. Sure to his trunks weren't really trunks. Vertical? Blinds had flaps. Eight you weird weird cloth lapse that just sort of hung down. It was like a little bit of tunic or something of somewhat homoerotic too young Adam Corolla, but I was able to focus on his technique. He had the hair slicked back, and he was sort of Rico Swazi that you lose that. Yeah. I lost decision to we've had up. I said -cremento and Rishi cone the in Bobby. I had him down twice in the fight. But then lost that one. Also, I called the. I wanted to more fights, and I retired Cohn was another name. Although I don't I don't think he had a nickname Bobby schoolboy schoolboy. So. You grew up where I'm interested in your story. I'm from deta, Massachusetts. And how did you find your way into boxing? My dad was a fighter my New England title in nineteen forty seven I believe and then. I felt his sessile if I won the same title nineteen seventy nine and then there's really no very pro game of in boxing, good. Good place for amateur boxing. I fifty amateur fights. So is quite activity activity going on in Boston amateur level. But as a pro I fought four fighters, and I wanted to New England Attal, and I decided to move out to Las Vegas, and then me my dad came out. And we we found any five minute trainer or legendary trainer we want it. And when he was my trainer for about ten years. And then I worked as that. He's assistant for five years. And that's when I was a telemarketer might telemarketing name was Joe Davis. Did you I you know, I'm fascinated by? You know, I think about it as think about myself, which I'm apt to do, you know, 'cause I am being well what you I was doing comedy for million years. But I I didn't know what to do when comedy comedy like sT sports. It's like what sport I do sports. But what is your sport, you know? And it's like I would do stand up. But I didn't feel it like I was like, I'm okay. I can't do it. Like, a good athlete could play different sports. But Jordan would be a great baseball player. But he could be a decent baseball player. But I didn't find my sport. And then at certain point, I met Jimmy Kimmel got into radio. And I was like now. Now, I've found my my sport in for you such a great trainer such legendary trade, you feel like in a way that even though you're boxing. You're sport was trainer is. I've found something that much better at this year was okay, fighter and..

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show

The Adam Carolla Show

04:24 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show

"I feel like we should just sit him in RJ. You just hang in. If you start drifting cause of your mental issues, I'll jumping thank you, president of Showtime sports. Stephen Spinoza, president of Showtime sports promoted in two thousand eighteen executive vice president joined a Showtime two thousand eleven good to see you. Good to meet you, Steven Spinoza thrill. Thanks for joining us for fight. We cuts bit of spectacle, say the lease. No kidding. Get his closest you can up into that. Mike, congratulations Showtime for becoming the of world leader in boxing and keeping the mantle live. You know, it's interesting. We were surprised as HBO get out of it. But the same time, it's sort of the more things change more. They stay the same because you've got FOX coming back in and ESPN coming back in. You know, things there's been float to this. But there's a lot of activity around boxing right now. And you can't turn on an NFL game FOX without seeing thirty thousand promos for box. It's interesting. You know, the thing about boxing as I think about it is there's always been the boxing, boxing, all of life. I don't know why we think about it. I like collector cars, you take a look at American muscle like it was peeking out in the early two thousands. Then it all drop down. And now it's starting to come back up. Again, this notion that everything's just going to be the same all the time that homes and Frazier and Ali and Norton and all those guys little before homes about him saying, you know, you had had a sort of golden era of heavyweights, then you had a golden era of middleweights with Hagler and Sugar Ray, and all that kind of stuff then the heavyweights dried up, of course, of course, it's called life. Not. Always going to be a super compelling heavyweight middleweight champion that's going to capture the world's imagination never unbroken streak. When when Muhammad Ali leaves another guy like Mohammed Ali, we'll just slide it and take his place. Are you kidding me? Right. Randall Tex Cobb is up to that channel. There's not there's one Mohammed Ali sort of stupid for us to expect that where but we wait a while. And then Mike Tyson shows up and now the heavyweights are quite an interesting group as as we speak. It's not to get to sort of societal and and in sociological about it. But, you know, everyone asks where did the heavyweight skull and tell you they went to the NBA and the NFL 'cause if Muhammad Ali were to come on the scene today. He would be a running back a linebacker. He would be the money in the NFL was is is so much greater today than it was when when Lee was active and put it another way Michael Strahan, if there was no NFL or in fellows, paying what they were paying back in seventies. Michael Strahan, probably be the heavyweight champion of the world. I'm the guy who took out his middle tooth when we're sparring back late eighties. He used to have a toot their now, they think it's just the two that separated. I got it home and a lucite case he won't talk about it. Of course, he won't talk about he'll call you live kryptonite, right? Bringing out and gets to me. You know, I know as that here because I'm here, I go to New York. He leaves he wants to keep the teeth. He laugh, you gotta Google that she had man. And god. Yeah, you're right. And it's interesting AC a lot. Well, you see gates a lot of guys that could even went to the NBA move on over the NFL and hammer hammer check. So it's a very interesting, and it sort of adds wrinkled because it's like I was talk about the sort of economics boxing. You know, I tell people they laugh Jews used to a ton of boxing. You know, what I mean, they all get the hell out of here. No there were there were here there were poor. They fought they lived in poverty. They did what people do they fight to get off the streets. And then they got it together, and then became doctors and lawyers and now the run Hollywood. But anyway. That that that's actually the fascinating part of that. Because if you look at it again, so she logically, whoever sort of at the bottom of the.

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"stephen espinoza" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show

The Adam Carolla Show

04:45 min | 3 years ago

"stephen espinoza" Discussed on The Adam Carolla Show

"And I was pardon the pun in the corner of never wanting to be hit again. So what attracted you to boxing? Then I wanted a contact sport after playing football. Also, it's like, it's an attractive sport. When. In you're playing football. And you're trying to bolt yourself up and you're under under-sized, and it's never gonna work because your size. It's super tractive like what if they had football divisions for like I could have played a bunch of one hundred seventy five pounders instead of trying to bulk up and hang with the two seventy five guys. Right. So I like the idea that there was a weight division for everybody. And I liked the contact sport in the competition part of it and I had like whatever natural abilities. I had they lent themselves. Boxing, like, I was coordinated had good eyesight pretty quick hands and things like that. Did you find the discipline appealing? Because you've talked a lot about your family life. Not a ton of guidance from the parents, did it feel like this could give direction the box. Yeah. I I I felt I always knew that sort of. Imposing challenges on yourself would be a good thing, and the sort of solitude of it where you just sort of skip rope for twenty minutes, and no one else is timing. You and no one else cares. And you can quit whenever you want. It's up to you do twenty minutes, and then it's up to you to do five rounds of shadowboxing or five rounds of moving or five rounds of heavy bag speed bag or double ended bag or whatever it is. Like, everything is really self-imposed. And you'll be the time keeper and the gatekeeper nobody you can quit whenever you want. No one ever say anything, I sort of liked that part of it. But there would be a consequence. Right. A lot of life. You fall short. It's hard to Jackley tau. But if you aren't ready in the boxing ring, right? You're going to get hurt. Well, that's what happened with this miniature. This pocket. Hercules at the bodies in motion West Hollywood, ours probably on PICO over there by FOX and Los Angeles. And like, I remember the guy owned the place. He was like this guy shoop or strong, and I'm like so what and the other thing that was bad about this guy is he had one set of gloves. He didn't have bag gloves and sparring gloves. He just said gloves, and he would whack the heavy bag all day every day with these goddamn gloves, and it probably had him for eight years. And you shouldn't be sparring with gloves that you're using a heavy bag because he'd worn it through like he warned his knuckles. You could see his knuckles coming through the gloves because he just been working them the whole time he'd be working the bag with these gloves all day. So then like it came time to Spar, and he's like, yeah. Let me get my glove. And he put his gloves on, and you could see was all wrinkled like look like an old person's face knuckles were and it was all worn out and everything and he's like, all right? Let's smart and everytime. He hit me. I could feel his knuckles three them. You don't like to get hit the gym owner who I'm guessing was a tough do that wasn't like crying wolf all this guy's. He tells you maybe shouldn't do you said, no, no bring it on. What was the thinking? He told me this guy could bench like three times. Why did you do it the strength of an aunt? But one hundred fifty five pound and right? And I was like, yeah. But Kenny box I can balked tries. Yeah. So he just beat the crap out of me. And I remember feeling his knuckles on my forehead the whole time. And I gotta tell you when you get beaten up that way, you're not right for a couple of days like when you get a little bit concussed so to speak. I definitely clearly remember bell being rung for how many times do you think you've been concussed from the box. I would say what you name again. I would say I probably have about four and a half from football and probably full-size from from boxing. Oh, I would get knocked down. Pop warner. I I'm old school. So Stephen Spinoza from Showtime is here he's waiting around..

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