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Ep 83: Storytelling for the Culture with Christina Steed

The Culture Soup Podcast

36:56 min | 1 year ago

Ep 83: Storytelling for the Culture with Christina Steed

"Hey y'all this is culture soup where Texas culture and business collide. It's a podcast at spoons up. Everything hot from social media. I'm your host El Michelle Smith and each episode. We bring you some of the most notable and not yet notable thought leaders in Tech Business and culture The year was two thousand fourteen. I settled into my new position at eighteen. T it'd been about a year and when I arrived I had adopted some agencies that would support me in developing a real capability in diversity and inclusion corporate communications while what we did was an aspect of multicultural marketing. The way we address it would be very different. Which meant could just have any agencies. I think I was covered when it came to LGBT Q. A. and military and disability. But I wasn't quite sure on what was happening with African American segment and we had some gaps to which rests on the Hispanic side of the business too so I took it upon myself to go back into the market and see who was competing at the upper end of the market when it came to African American communications. Well this was interesting the search it was there not that many certified African American Public Relations Agencies. That can take on major brands. Let me explain. There are a lot of them out there and many of them are associate it with advertising agencies which is fine but typically they are not full service then add on top of it. You need an agency that can work with the Fortune. One hundred and that requires different kinds of capabilities different kinds of credentials. Different kinds of certifications. And you know what you gotTa have the pockets to do that. So what's interesting is. There was an agency going all the way back to the time when I was approached by column or USA. Which would eventually become revlon. They wanted my agency to be agency of record for their multicultural. Hair care portfolio. This isn't Alberto Culver. Remember this is commoner and they were talking to an agency called flowers communications group out of Chicago because of VP bedtime. Sean Tollackson was commuting from Chicago to Florida. Just about every week when it came down to it. Both of our agency submitted an asset would have it might Dec- was blessed ticket that business but I never would forget the name flowers communications group as it would turn out. The principal at flowers had the very same name as myself. We're both Michelle's I would come across their names again when I was looking for an agency for African American communications and they bubbled up to the top because they had all the credentials in all the chops to handle a fortune twelve at the time. So I called Michelle Flowers and had the funniest story because she remembered my agency from the colors she could recall the brand colors of my website and said that they took some cues from it because they thought it was great in the also thought the agency was based in Chicago and while we had Chicago. Office we were based in Dallas. So that was a compliment. But this was when I with me the executive vice president of client services her name Christina Steed Christina would lead to a of the teams that would support me in the African American segment and also Hispanic as they would tag team with Fleishman Hillard over time developed a deep respect for Christina and the work that they were doing for me there at. At and T. and we would become friends. We traveled together. We would hang out together. When we were at conferences. We got to know each other very well. But what's interesting is I would not know that she was married to the other steed. Munson steed who is the publisher in editor of rolling out? I would know that until halfway through our engagement that being said I already mentioned. I have a deep respect for Christina steed. She's doing some of the same things that I am right now. She's living her dream as she lives out her purpose. She started a podcast. She's writing and she's an adjunct professor at Depaul University in Chicago Illinois without further. Ado I went to meet my girl Christina Deed Storyteller before the Culture Oh Hey everybody I'm so excited that I've got my girl in the line you know this is l. Michelle Smith and friends as stay true to that. This is why he came appears to show. But I've got my girl Christina steed who is an adjunct professor at Depaul University in Chicago Illinois. She's also the MVP of client relations at flowers. Communications Group shout out to Michelle Flowers and she is the founder Creator in host of first over forty. That's right so she's doing a lot of things and I've seen you on the speaker circuit to get Mitt a busy keeping busy staying out of trouble or good trouble good trouble. Thank you so much for coming on the show. How you doing? Thank you for having me. I'm good I'm booked and busy but it's great. It's great to be professor for the first time winter. Quarter into fall. Which is a college that I applied to and was accepted to a made a different choice. But now it's a full circle moments a comeback now teach a class that I created called culture in strategic communication campaigns. Oh that's awesome so you're able to carry through a theme in your career later gentlemen. She does Multicultural Marketing Integrated Marketing and communications at flowers. Communications Group and I'm trying to think of the last time I've actually seen you face to face was the last time we saw each other man. Was it any. Bj AND ANYBODY J. I think that might have been right. Yeah Yeah we all this bad in. Nineteen two thousand eighteen. Yeah you're right absolutely to come to Miami. Last you know couldn't make y'all y'all gotta know this my girl so we've been on the phone texting. Yeah we haven't seen each other but that's where technology fills in the gap right. We're able to still stay connected with each other on support each other. 'cause we're doing some great stuff on a parallel track absolutely so you know what we're GonNa get into that but Christina. What do you think we have a culture? Yeah let's let's do it okay. Great so I'm always the threads and you know about culture. Social Media is culture. I always say that I'm going through the thread. I'm noticing and it's not just in our community is all over the place but I gotTa tell you that black folks have really lean in on an audio is one of those things and this this with my students at Tcu that people are leaning towards when it comes to content on social media. Because it's one of those things unlike video popular you can multitask audio over five hundred thousand of these things out there did I have I have. I have stepped in the ring because I felt there was a message. That was burning in my heart around turning forty and how it's perceived in media around you know anti aging and it's like what are forty is downhill from there. And that's just not the experience that I've seen in my friend group with my Peer Group of women who I you know. Look up to that. That's just not the case so I wanted to start a project or platform to celebrate that and to talk about those. I get to that point where you've done a lot and but you you don't take a moment to really celebrate the things that you're learning and doing doing for the first time over forty in there are so many things and so. That's what I talk about also with Mindfulness Silkair Being a professional doing new thing. So yeah that's where I found. My Niche have some listeners? To Oh that's good. I love it because I heard somebody saying. I can't even remember who it was when people start thinking about forties and fifties middle aged. That's a misnomer. It is because if you think about a your adult life doesn't start until twenty twenty one at exactly where some people it doesn't really start paying because they move home early mid life right if you're looking at mid life or middle age that's more like a little bit older right right right. Yeah so is a good thing that you're doing that we're seeing a lot of women especially in a lot of black women. Yeah taking off in new directions After four yeah and why do you think that? Is You know we have a story? We have stories that need to be told we inspire each other. We are creating businesses and doing really wonderful things and this is a time for a social media has been. The foundation helped accelerate some of that and so we as like limit. We're just not going to be denied and we have stories to tell in these platforms that are able to kind of equalized and give people equal access. You can editor on podcast. The technology is available. So why not talk to that audience? Who wants to hear what you have to say. Yeah and you know you make a really good point especially about that. Demographic our demographic black women early adopters to technology like social media and these devices that we have in our hands trendsetters. We are opening more businesses than anybody right now so we got that entrepreneurial spirit and I think to so many of us thanks to technology and healthcare and all of that we're feeling languages hitting our strident. Yes I can definitely agree with you there. I feel you know I've learned a lot. I have a lot to pour into others. I've mentor word and I've been mentored by others so it's just how do we uplift the community in general as women and you know as we look toward? March and women's history month coming up. It's just a great moment in time to be able to celebrate that and to get they acknowledgement that we have always wanted and now is our time we can shine right. That's awesome and you're not the first to come on here and have an extra per neural right so we're seeing a lot of that happening ahead. Cyril Grace on. She's been on and she is power and this is what she does also along with her big powerful job and here you are not just passed. But you've got some other pursuits going right right so the hustle as they call it is. I don't call it a hustle collar flow via passionate about other things beyond your primary career. Is You know it can be available to us in our forties as well as the twenty and thirty year old so it is how we reinvent ourselves how we keep ourselves curious about the life that we're living an be creative like that's the most important thing to me is. How can I be creative? How can I impact? It's hell stories in a give messages around the things that I'm interested in because I'm interested in it chances. Are there other people who are interested in it as well right and you know what I think too that? We're probably positioned better move because I think back to and I tell people this story all the time. I made a list of six things that I wanted to back when I was coming at a Grad school that I knew that I could because of my age lack of experience no real network at enhance the credibility. Because I didn't have the bills I mean you. Just go down the list but these were the things that I wanted to achieve man. I knew come out of Grad School. I needed to make right so I needed to find that one thing. That would make me money for me. That was publicly so I did it for twenty seven and now it's so cool to take all of what I've got the credibility of got the cruisers gotten drive. I've got all of these things and be able to just pack of that right and I'm at number six wonderful and I think that speaks to another issue with women in the workplace in when we talk about ageism and how we think that you know folks who hit a certain age can't reinvent themselves or can't learn new skills and that's just not the case we look at folks who are running in the election right now and they're older and that's kind of the troll people are attacking them for being older but why. I mean they're smart. They're the you know if they can get their message across and do the things that we need done. Why should we put the plan on this ages? Trope To throw people out like we're done with you 'cause you're not in your twenties and thirties. Honey I'm just not I don't subscribe to that no I don't either and there is something to be said about Wisdom Adam. And you know smarts gets you to the table wisdom there you go there and that's just how it is and you don't get wisdom until he's a little bit of time this and you may be blessed with some wisdom at a young age but man let their season and let them see what that. Whiz. That's right because then you you make less mistakes right you. You've already had those experiences. And so now you're stage in your game where you can do multiple things. You can juggle both well. Thanks and you can be have a great impact on the community community. It kind of looks. That's great so now. You are pouring into Julius I am. I am an adjunct professor at Depaul University. I created a class called culture in strategic communication campaigns. Because I want the folks who are coming in the industry to understand the importance of having cultural competency of the work that I do have flowers. Communications Group reach and respect multicultural. Audiences were some of the world's biggest brands and we help our clients understand how important it is to include these consumers. Not just from buying power standpoint because Cheryl at Nielsen. Who's one of our clients actually about buying power a lot but also because so many of the trends that are set in what culture looks like comes from these consumers and so we have to really be understanding of how we communicate to them. What types of programs putting together that also have residents in the general market? Yeah you know. Some of reading the tea leaves for what's coming down. The Pike in the mass market is demonstrated in even. Let's let's go back to the black female demographic you could even say. Lgbtq of caller They're driving a lot. Indians that ended up being mass market. And you know I'm also an adjunct professor at Tcu and you know it was interesting because we had a conversation. I opened up every last one of my classes with the current events question and last Tuesday I think it was. I opened up for the question. Who was in? I hope I don't mispronounce it because I've never heard it said out loud is Julia or delone. Okay at Huish in and there was kind of a blank steinle. Wow now here. Even the New York member article. Well that was right. The demographic of my class is primarily female. There's one young man in the class and there's one black female who happened to not be in the room so there's kind of a blank stare and a big pregnant pause and I said I'll give you a hint. Does anyone know who Charlie is and then one of the students said? Oh wait a minute and know exactly who she is. She gets to googling. She's a candidate Susie is. She's worth over six hundred thousand dollars and and then somebody else's wait. A minute is July the one that actually made up the renegade then it dawned on was going on so this fourteen year old. Black girl comes up with his dance. It is like the courageous rain on and another white youngsters soccer. Whatever she is going to actually dance the girl you know kind of took credit for it and everybody thought that she was the one that came within an actually. It's a different version. You know this one goes like this right instead of the dad. I don't know the different dances but I do what? You're trying to explain to the students and this coming Thursday for my class. We're talking about cultural creation versus appreciation and unpacking different moments. In time from what Pepsi and can Kylie Jenner did too you know when we look at how these trends are phenomenal? Take place in social media and then who takes the credit for who monetize it who then becomes known for it? I think social media is great in that we are able to look at the forensics things now and see where friends have started in full should receive credit for what So that cultural appropriation conversation. I'm really looking forward to it because my students as well or majority white and for me an email and for me I want to imbue them with the understanding. You can grow your cultural competency. You now have. This lends to be able to see examples like this and say we're not. GonNa pick out the big talker where we know the origin originate right. We need to give her credit she needs to be NBA. All Star doing her dance in front of crowds. It get right so that we got. Oh it was awesome to you so my class has made a promise to me. They're actually going to teach me how to renegade and we're going to do it for Tick Tock because I'm now talk now and when I go to lane college weekend we're GonNa do some little dance particularity but I liked what you said about the forensics of it because if you go all the way back to ellison bearing if they had the Internet we'd be able to tell the story even more clear who came from and now we got attorneys. That are actually looking at re-addressing this idea of who owns it in the idea of Ip or intellectual property because the argument was that you can't copyright dance rhymes right but now you call it. The forensics they can literally take side by side. You're tick tock if you want to and look at them side by side and say that's her image. That's her lightness. And they're beginning to see where they might be able to take the yeah for sure and for us. As African American women are African. American creators is important right. It's important to get that credit. It's not just about the fame. It's about the fortune and the sanctions that you know. If someone is co opting a hairstyle a you know a fashion design which you know we. There's a family who has reality show that has a track record of doing that You know we need to look at this critically as cultural folks in the communications space. Who should we partner with because influencers when we work with influencers in a multicultural space? We know that sometimes they get the short end of the stick. Black media sometimes gets the short end of the stick there at the end of the red carpet trying to get interviews for entered from entertainment celebrity. Folks why is that in twenty twenty so we will have a critical eye to these things? It's not just oh it's a dance. No ma'am there's a whole ecosystem that gets created around her now party with brands of being in commercials and things like that and so you know. Kinda you know for me. It's critically important to make sure that stuff gets talked about. That was something that someone raised me. How does July or I don't know how to say her? Name get almost reparations for their dance like because so much time passed and so much credit was given to somebody else in that time before people actually discovered and she is on the New York Times in a big full spread on Ellen in wherever else she is how you make up for that loss. Time that is worth some Beto Question Right Michelle. How do we make you know many things in this country where there needs to be referee That may not the folks who are working on that at the economics of that. I'd love to see how that shakes out. Even joked to Jalen Blitzer. I was on the phone with him before we got on like. You know. Part of the ripper reparations. Package should probably some be some really good group there you go and we need it right now but traumas in the DNA. That's been proven out by several studies and research so now. Let's talk about the importance of Multicultural Marketing Integrated Marketing and communications. It's interesting because we're in this theory. It's an interesting time because every company out there you know whether they mean it for the good or the mean for the bottom line or if they're just checking the box it's getting the chief diversity officer. They're paying attention to diversity and inclusion in some of them are looking at equity. Do what is the role of a multicultural? Integrated Marketing Agency in. Let's talk about the importance because there is a school of thought out there right now which I think is absolutely wrong in now but I'm GonNa let you talk about it that we are going to come to a point where we don't need these agencies have bring this thought in these insights that you really can't get majority owner so are you saying that. Yes we're seeing it in the R. P. Process. We're seeing in the new business. Development PROCESS THAT SOME COMPANIES. WanNa just have a one stop shop on. They don't necessarily prioritize outreach multicultural consumers because they feel like they're watching the general market media. You know but the there is a nuance is so important. And we continue to see companies that fall down in terms of the types of campaigns that they come with thinking they know hip the hip hop community. They know you know what might resonate in. Its mistake after a second for the state and I love Barnes and Noble Mathare mishap during Black History. Month around the The the books and reinterpreting the classics just putting kind of literary black face on the covers of these books when there have been so such a better way of doing it highlighting authors putting shine on the fact that black authors do not have distribution to the tune of other authors to get there in that store so our role isn't agency. We're going to give you that council. We're going to give you that perspective. That may also folks who are up. Caller within the organization might not have agency enough to do not have power enough to push back on something because you know they just may not be empowered to do so. So we're going to give that council you get two for when you come to us because we pitch general market media as well as heck media. We have the relationships So I think it will always be important on to be colored brave in not colorblind in terms of these ads. You know she has a bird. Ted Talk Ryan than I always use it so you know for us. It's definitely continuing to demonstrate the importance of that in social media the way we is even just speaking about African Americans. Talk to each other signify each other on twitter. You cannot come out with campaigns that don't resonate in our authentic because people can sniff it is just it just not. We're not putting up with that. So yeah yeah well and it does make you wonder. Sometimes I've had this conversation with Cheryl to if we actually understand the weight of the power that we wheeled not just from our dollar but are influenced that Popeye thing and how we literally drove the bottom line for that sandwich and still still driving window we get the credit or even get paid you know and maybe we don't in that situation but when do we recognize that. Okay if I hit send on this. We making money for pauperize Should I really do with it do that? Is that good for my community Am I actually killing them with some off client? Well it's it's their choice to eat. The pump is which I had not had it but I do believe that the person behind the twitter is an African American female and the day partnered with the migos In terms of promotional Uber eats so at the the the key is you have this moment in time. We've sold a bunch of sandwiches you've connected to the community do you. Maintain do sustain that connection and hat. And when you do how do you show up for the community? Are you partnering with Community Organizations? You Know How do you show up is beyond this mono- time of driving? The selling of sandwiches and McDonald's does a great job of connecting to the community. They're one of our clients as well. They have a sustained commitment black communities and they are always there no matter the recession no matter whatever anybody else is doing you can count on. Mcdonagh's Walmart Ford coca-cola. Png Pay you. They never right in that and they don't down on. That means something to them to have that connection because they know about us where brand loyal we look for authenticity in our the AD campaigns in the PR campaign. So you know Kudos to those brands more needs get onboard especially in the tech industry on. Because we're just we're in tech. We are over indexing on our use of social and our use of Technology. So you know respect us in that way. Let's pull up. What are you guys working all right now that we should know about what? I'm really excited about is. Were doing in the diversity and inclusion space full internal cons and external comms. So for you know. We'VE BEEN AROUND FOR THIRTY YEARS AS AN AGENCY. And the work has been mostly focused on multicultural. External communication we totally diversified offering into graphic design video production podcast production and And then the diversity inclusion as you talked about earlier where we see. Companies standing up chief inclusion officers chief diversity officers in a moment of this is the Movement. Will you know? Don't just stand up that person. Give that partner legit to line of sight of the communications of so you can talk about. Ex- Charlie what you're doing from denies face whether it's supplier diversity whether it's your hiring recruitment retention of diverse candidates And just your investment in commitments of the community overall and that's where we bring value as an agency of with the experience that we've had in supporting that work that's awesome and you know guys everybody should know and you probably have heard this in other episodes that flowers communications group was my squad when I was working at eighteen. Supporting the African American community and with to some amazing is Michelle. You are the quintessential example of an internal client who rallies for work to get done. Who finds the budget who supports strategic smart thanking? Who's testing learning? So that's how we were able to do. Great Work Because you assembled a team of thinkers and you said let's let's go in this together. Hold Hey yet I says get it done so we were town and we operate like a team and one of the things I loved was that at Intrigue External Vin may right you know and understood that if you guys have buy in that the program was going to be better and you know let the agency do with the agency supposed to go get those insights and I think in the episode with Riverine Injustice Simmons. At the very beginning I talked about you. Guys were the guts of the program especially inspired mobility. We came with those insights that first insight the Church's original social network for the African American community that spawned this multi year with the with the great rock and Roll Hall of fame person who just aligned so seamlessly was passionate about the word so ryan on the day it should we talk to Reverend Michelle absolutely and let's let's find whatever we need to do to make it happen. Yes yes in the fact that I was like I have x amount of money. Brian makes it thing happened. Brian is the NEGOTI. Real dot connector. Yes yes I really appreciate Brian Packer. Shout out to him. And let's see guys. Almost Luiz believes working as early as Sheldon. Yana look how the Lira and Jennifer Lopez Tony. Absolute heartbreak change precinct. That anything that you're working on that we should be aware yes so in a previous podcast episode. You had my husband on Steve and publisher rolling out his mother media materials. And we're actually collaborating on a project where we talked about this interest in wellness and mindfulness especially as it relates to black women. He collaborated on a coloring book with affirmations and prayers exercises for in particular to just you know had those healing circles of inhabiting activity then to just you know Kinda. He'll an and be mindful. So that's coming soon from us. I love it I love it. Shot he also has his playful genius. Playful Genius Dot Co. He's a toymaker maker of book has six children's books out here so he's doing it. That's his creative outlet is when he's not running a Steve. Meteor going excellent excellent. Well say hi to everybody on that end including is thank you so much for coming on working. We find you. I am Azi steed on twitter and instagram on Lake Dance. If you WANNA connect professional capacity and then the podcasts at first over forty on instagram and available wherever you get your podcast so spotify and Michelle. I have to say I'm so proud of you as a sister really appreciates password you create it in the work that surgery so thank you so much and bless you took all the words of my mouth that I was gonna say I am proud of you Christina. You're all these doing. I mean it's groundbreaking on every because so many of these incredible things but they wouldn't be doing it without me. That and I love the way that you were out. There shine every in the scholar that write books too. So we go. We're going to get back around this nick. Thank you so much for coming Blue Care. What an awesome conversation with Christina St. She is a storyteller for the culture. She is the Creator and host of first over forty five. Be sure tune in and listen for for so and she is the executive vice president of the service of dead flowers. Communications also look for me months fifth at the P. M. G. Agency World Wide Meeting for the and I will join a panel of experts to talk about all sorts of things workplace leadership diversity equity also a little social media. News have joined the happiest place in the social sphere. Tick Tock that's right. You can see me on tick tock at shows giving words of wisdom when it comes to the coaching industry and also addressing your pain points as a professional in corporate or as an entrepreneur. Check me out. You might even see me do a little damp. Listen I to Lane College. I'm so excited to visit one of my favorite. Hvac out there for the third time in less than a year. 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BTC032: Bitcoin Mining & Entrepreneurship w/ Jason Williams (Bitcoin Podcast)

We Study Billionaires - The Investors Podcast

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BTC032: Bitcoin Mining & Entrepreneurship w/ Jason Williams (Bitcoin Podcast)

"You're listening to t ip. Hey everyone welcome to our wednesday release of the podcast. Where we're talking about bitcoin on today's show. I have an incredible entrepreneur and bitcoin. Influence with jason williams. Jason sold his first company. Fast for more than three hundred million dollars and has made many other venture deals throughout the years totaling. A half a billion dollars. He's an author a bitcoin. Minor that uses renewable energy harvested from used tyres. And he's got one heck of a story. This was such a fun conversation and we get into a lot of relevant topics near the end of the show about mining in the current negative twenty-five percent difficulty adjustment due to policy decisions and china so without further delay. Here's my interview with the one. And only jason williams you're listening to bitcoin fundamentals by the investors podcast network now for your host preston fish tank all right so like i said in the introduction. I'm here with jason williams jason. Welcome to the show man. Thanks for having me. I'm a huge fan man. This is a longtime coming due. I'm a fan of yours. And now i'm just going to start off. I love your book. I think the thing that i like about your book so much is it's able to kinda like show the really big picture but then get down into the into the weeds in the sections where it's important for people to understand it and so for people that are just coming into the space and they're trying to wrap their head around the big macro picture also drill down into the smaller nuance things that are important but kind of get away confused. You do such a great job. Kind of painting the canvas in a way that can kind of capture before we go down that path. I just want to start off like hearing your story. Because i know you have one heck of a story and in just the background and everything so this is almost say. You were born in queens. Take it from there. Born in queens immigrant family moms sicilian. My dad's jamaican and british left when i was born. Mom is a bartender and lows very much and provided for me gave me a great home. You know we were low class. A poor family and eventually moved to florida had aspirations to be a doctor. Got on my rocket. Ship played a little soccer around the world to preston but eventually arrived back in in school and Fortunately came a physician assistant so as profession was we started around. Nineteen seventy four in regards to physician assistants. Give a little color and then continue but they they weren't like naval corman returning from the vietnam war and when they return. They didn't have a place. These were highly competent like medic. That could save your life and do all kinds of field madison but there was no transition for exiting military people into civilian life in the practice of medicine. So duke university started a physician assistant program. I think there was this guy harvey steed. I think that's his name. But anyway i was in the first class of physician assistants at a small school called methodist university and from there accepted yale. Thought i wanted to be an orthopedic. Surgical eye was a licensed physician. Assistant ended up dropping out of yale starting a company. That company was fast. Med and i grew that over my entire adult life into the nation's second largest privately owned urgent care and primary care practice cross country at fourteen hundred employees about four hundred. He as doctors working for me and then sold that company totality in two thousand fifteen for right around half a billion dollars. I'm kind of fascinated at just the drive. First of all to wanna become a doctor became a physician's assistance. From from everybody that. I've ever talked to that almost parody with each other as far as the schooling in difficult to get the education there. What drove you at such an early age to want to achieve at such a level. What was the driving factor behind all this. I appreciate the question. But i don't think it's any different than what drove you to your career. I believe your military career and beyond it was for me kind of the fear of the life. I knew that level of poverty the lack of options all the other things. This isn't a psychology session. But growing up where i did. There was substance abuse psychological abuse. There was all types of abuse. And i just wanted to break free from preston. My escape was through education and becoming a professional of some sorts again. I had no no roadmap. There's no one to call and say okay. I wanna be a doctor. How do i become a doctor. That just wasn't available to me. Unfortunately i just hacked it together and landed on physician assistant. Right shaw for the moon landed on some meteor close to see say the point. Well so the transition to yale that transition. I just can't imagine how driven you would've been when i'm hearing this story. You go to yale. Then you drop out. It's one of those defining moments. Like i've had this discussion with friends recently. Where you get to a certain point in your life where you've transcended your cv you've transcended the social norms the defining things that you think you need so that you can continue to be employable part. Those things early on. I bought into the fact that i needed jail resume because my resume was weak at it was more fear driven. Like i've gotta get here. I've got to have these trophies or these things to help me get away from where i am that already has tremendous gravity to get excape velocity. It was like. I can't tell you the drive. That's why most people don't don't escape queens. They don't escape bork. L. place like they're stuck there. Everyone wants to leave. It's just a common discussion but it's very hard but look i got. There came up with an idea. Socialized it to my professors called my mom told her i was going to drop out and go for this preston. She wasn't happy in worked out for me. It's one of those things where when people can see it in. Hindsight is just so obvious. Then you know jason so like i follow on twitter. I think somebody who would look at your twitter feed in see you on the surface would say oh that guy's just joking around or he's he's out there having fun but has never sold a company for a half a billion dollars and build it over. Decades dropped out yielded. Do at all like the risk factor. There is just crazy to me so you start the company. And what was the product or service or kind of idea around the company that you started fast med. The thesis was. I could do eighty percent of what you'd find a us based emergency department so it would be like non life saving procedures and diagnosis. That you'd find an an emergency department using allied healthcare professionals or physician assistants and leveraging technology to do it at one tenth the cost so eighty percent of the service offering of an emergency department at one tenth. The cost placing it in a retail setting sunanda. Where all the doctors are or the hospital but going where starbucks is and this is two thousand two thousand one so super early pioneering in that space no physician assistants on medical practices let alone employed doctors public enemy number one from a career perspective that was press. And then i just kind of self funded and went one to three ten more by equity twenty hundred to skip over this stuff. And i'm telling you for somebody who's who has never built a business before even if you do this at a local level and you have success growing it then across the nation at a point where you don't take on too much leverage or you get yourself in trouble or you just hire too quickly with bad people and bad strategic so much of this is way bigger than you. Just kind of brush stroking over it then. I think people realize like this is. This is massive so talk us through the growth piece of this so you have you set up one site. It's now it's copy and paste. Let's do it again and talk us through some of that growth that you had to manage it. Just walk us through this decade plus of that experience so you like so many things happening at once over the. Let's call it fifteen years that i was building that company that it's going to be. It'll be too much to unpack but just imagine opening up a doctor's office. You've got a technology package. You have to have some type of charting system. You have to have some type of recruiting. Hr culture all of those things. Right you're building. I had no business training. So i'm winging with a bunch of college friends at first but over time when the system starts to break and new technologies. Start the show themselves. You're just implementing as you go right so you're essentially building the plane while you're flying it. Most people are uncomfortable doing that. I meet sounders. That they're stuck in prototype forever. Brazing enormous amounts of capital to protect perfect their crass than there are those who don't know what they don't know and and rush basked in the wrong direction and the same people that don't know what they don't know russia the right direction and build something extraordinary right for me retrospective late. We got it right more than we got it wrong preston. We built these systems. We adopted electronic medical rectors. We went some traditional x ray to patch systems and digital x ray. We went from you. Know trying to train people how to code to Having cooling algorithms assist people to how do you deal with real estate. Do you buy all the buildings. Do you build them to know. Or is there some plug and play when we went into our blitz scaling phase blockbuster video stores went out of business so those were like in this perfect location for the kind of retail play. I was doing so. I just went out and warehoused all these blockbuster video stores so that we could open up. And you're just recognizing kind of patterns and and aligning these things but again it takes different mentality. You know someone whom feels very comfortable. Not knowing has the self confidence to stand before his mistakes make corrections. The confident like changing his mind. Like these are like mantras. I always reserve the right to change my mind. Say it all the time to people because it's kept me out of trouble in my life but yeah that fast med was an amazing moment. It took me from this start that i had in life to someone who had options selling company was the hardest thing i ever did because when i raise some capital in two thousand and ten i had the sign a ten year non compete so my ten year non compete started in two thousand ten. I exited the whole company in two thousand fifteen. So i had five more years where i was blocked out of healthcare so everything i knew my whole adult life. I spent working on that business preston. And after i sold it in two thousand fifteen i was done like couldn't work in that space any longer. Follow the money to do that right. And so that's why you had to go off in a completely different direction and twenty-fifth truly different direction. So i've had some patents that i've written robotics and synthetic polymer science and i was really interested in doing some type of renewable energy thing but i didn't want to. I don't know how this is going to come off. I didn't wanna do something that had any subsidies that that needed any type of government support to survive. It's pure free-market capitalism. Like if i'm going to build something. I'm going to build it so it's profitable anti elon mosque before it was popular right right. Yeah it was like. Peter drucker right. My first social responsibility is to be profitable after unprofitable. Then i can go give all my money away. But let's let's deal with that i so yeah man that's where the idea for. Pr guy came up like. Let's take this massive worldwide problem of trash tires. You can use of an equation like one tire per year per person is disposed of around the world for the most part so here in the united states we dispose of about three hundred and fifty million scrap tires a year. That's not counting the blemish tires that come out of the factories or heavy industrial tires. These are passenger. Tires are light truck tires and twenty percent of them end up on the side of the road in water on lakes in the woods. And and then we don't have a nice are good solution for them. And that's where i was born. So where in the world do you get this idea. Because most people have maybe one brilliant idea but then don't have the means to executed in their lifetimes and here you are still very young pointy fifteen and you're already on this second idea that you're ready to kill it so like how did you grasp this idea. I was always interested in like early. Stage seed investing. So i i would tell you like starting in two thousand twelve to two thousand fifteen. I had been looking at things that were interesting. Putting small amounts of capital fifty or one hundred thousand dollars into things so i had arrived at some areas of interest for me energy robotics medical applications service offerings. I forgot some restaurants and stuff like that. That is probably not as impressive but that that was really it so i had developed a bit of cognitive diversity in in my own kind of approach to things and thought i had a good solution i had looked at some patents that Had made some claims on how they dealt with synthetic polymers and tires and and d. manufacturing them and i thought we could hit rate on them so i just hired a bunch of organic chemists and we sat in a room and and broke this thing down and came up with something that i thought was viable on paper. Then i took like a fifty gallon barrel. Cut a tire into a force and insulated look like a satellite and heated it externally until we got the temperature round three hundred c internally and i started to pull vapor stream off of it and condensed that into a really crappy oil. That was the beginning of it. I had that on the back of a pickup truck and then we went to scale by put a bunch of money and bought ten acres of land close to where i live and lived in that field. A four year really lived in a i had a very small team of engineers and we we perfected the technology. I want to get back to this. When i'm hearing this my background coming up with us military backer and it's all about leadership and it's all about being able to prioritize and like separate which variables are important and just being able to synthesize. What's important and what's not important in. Get to the point. And you have this spades at such an early age. I was formally trained on this for years. And i would argue still very lacking in many areas. But when i'm hearing this this does not happen. All these things do not happen unless you just have like this natural gift for leadership. So where did you learn that. I don't know press. I can just tell you that looking back like if you were ever pick up game like pickup basketball game or like. I was the guy that that people would pick jason on my team. And then like i would be the guy picking the teams as i started to get. Alder just naturally happened. You'd essential sense. Yeah and and my mode has been conflict. Resolution focus on aligning goals. Finding everyone's unique motivation pushing hard in that direction. So when you find someone's unique motivation you align goals and you resolve conflict with like absolute intensity. Those are fun people to be around and if you share success along the way and everyone understands what winning is oh my goodness you can build some amazing team so really for me. I don't need to be the smartest guy in the room. I just wanna be a part of the team and sometimes on the quarterback. Sometimes i'm just running the ball heart so zig humility. Do you think that part of it. But i also like it's all those things. It's all those things. But i don't know again. I'm not formally trained like my formal trainings in medicine and hard sciences. I'm not an engineer. But i built a very big waste management business at scale that eventually mind cryptocurrency so we can go down that path as proud of pr. As i am fast med. Because it really to your point like i kinda got lucky that life changing idea and realize did and monetize it you know my second gig was pri and right now you know that companies valued at about one hundred and twenty five million dollars and is expanding and i'm very proud of that and we survived cova the shutdown etc. Did you find that some of the the medical training that you had to so much of it is deep critical thinking a thirst for continuing to to learn and knowledge in order to properly diagnose treat people did some of that influence you in the way that you operate as an entrepreneur or maybe something that you you find very beneficial that you think may be others don't necessarily get access to because of that background. Yeah like. I think. There's some things that i can lean on. One of them is when you're dealing with highly technical highly sensitive situations specifically around people's health you have to be able to deliver the message and you have to be able to deliver that message to people who speak english to be blue. This isn't their primary language through an interpreter. You you've been trained this way you see you understand what i'm talking about for me. I think one of the things that i'm able to do is take complicated processes and systems and speak very plainly. I write like i talk. And that i think is why people relate to the book like i needed to write that book because it in prince in my brain. The these complex things. But i didn't want to write it in a highly academic kind of way. Because i was how i talk will. Yeah waiting for your audience. That's right and i i wanted to be. Even though it wasn't in my voice. I wanted people who know me or have ever talked to me to say that's him talking. You can hear him saying that. I apply that same type of philosophy to engineering. He's funny only recently. Have i realized. That's kinda elon musk's mode as well. He doesn't let people use like industry specific nomenclature. It's banned like if it needs to be big. Used the word big if it's small small light heavy like that's me it's funny. I wonder if that comes because elon. Musk is really out of discipline. You know what i'm saying. I think you're right. Yeah like i'm out of discipline. Like i sit in a room with engineering welders computer engineers programmable logic coders. I'm totally out of discipline. But i'm like. I need this to work in thirteen stops. That step doesn't make sense to me. Explain to me why we're doing this. Like what is a vacuum pump. Do draw that for me urinating. Why it's working right with into trying to fundamentally understand. Don't get all the fancy language here. 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I love this and everyone can participate. Not like some guy who's like nuclear physicist sitting on top of everything. Because i've had those guys come to were just like okay. That sounds interesting. But it's not applicable. Because you just don't understand it. The pri is a cool thing so you said a ten acre plot of land lift out there for a year testing. You're on developmental testing to prove out that like this is something that i can actually move out on. This is a big scale endeavor. And no one has. This is two thousand fourteen. No no one has ever built something like this to scale and had it persist so the waste management waste industries republic. Goodyear bridgestone all of these companies. They've they've always wanted some other solution to dispose of tires other than throwing them in the landfill or shredding these things here i come making these claims. And they're like yeah. We've heard it all before you got a magic machine and you can put this in here and get that. We built a precedent and we built it at scale. Also what you would see if you came to. prt is. I've got six forty foot cylinders and they rotate on an access point. They're all independent. So one of the things that i didn't like about massive industrial complexes they're all connected you've got like conveyor belts feeding into that and this and then it goes here and then that has to go onto here but if any of those systems breaks the whole plant goes down so i wanted to make sure that we had something called like a continuous batch system. That was modular is now. You're getting into lean six sigma types of your speaking a language. I don't know. I did the same thing with a hospital. Emergency room right. I said this thing is big and inefficient. Yeah are unhappy. Let's make it small. And and you know kind of tactically more replicate available and usable and so we took these systems these cylinders each one of them had its own programmable logic controller worked independent of the other systems. So there's some redundancy you had this forty foot chamber. You had an oil processing and containment system behind it then you have an emergency flare behind it. The cylinder rotates forward. You loaded with about three hundred whole tires. And that's really novel because no one had ever produced one of these tire disposal systems where you had no preparation of a tire. You could just take a dirty tire and throw it in my machine so you put three hundred tires in the machine. The machine then gets back into a vertical position. It's all done by computer. And then live closes on top of it. It informs a seal. We put a vacuum pump or some pressure and we we evacuate the atmosphere out of that vessel so all you have is tires and were. We pulled out the atmosphere. I insert a torch into the bottom of this giant cylinder. And you've got all the tires randomly inside of it. And i blast it with this torch and create like a coke layer. So it's not on fire. I'm blasting those tires with this torch for twenty minutes and creating kohl's like hot coals at the bottom. The cylinder is actually there's thermal concrete and some other really cool technologies in it but it's essence. It's just a green egg so after twenty minutes. Pull the torch out closed that port. And then i start to drag oxygen or atmosphere back over those hot coals. So there's no additional fuels there's no catalyst there's no other energy. I've spent twenty minutes of of some type of gas to create hot coals. Dragging atmosphere over that with vacuum pumps that becomes super hot at the base. Imagine blowing on coal against red hot. A tire is forty percent oil. It's got carbon steel kevlar. It's got a lot of things in it. That are volatile in terms of the synthetic polymer. That heat is monitored with about eighty different sensors up the stack of tires and up. This forty foot container is so are measuring the temperature differences up the staff and i over a eleven our process. Moving those tires down to this hotspot just using gravity and turning them from a semi solid to a gas not lighting them on fire. I'm heating them. And they turn into a gas. And then i'm pulling that vapor stream off at a certain temperature. It's around three hundred. Fifty two four hundred see and i'm pulling that vapor stream ost and collecting and cooling a fuel and that fuel is like a bunker fuel when i say bunker fuel that in a high sulphur fuel that you would use ship once it gets into international waters the vapor stream that i can't condense into into an oil and gas so it's all the butane propane 's methane. It's got a lot of the different combustible components. I can pull that in scrub it and combusted in terms of energy as well. So i've got liquid-fuel. I've got a gas stream and then after eleven hours i'm left with a carbon. That's like mid grade appalachian coal. So it's a solid feel and then steal. There's a fair amount of steel and a tire dump that out after eleven hours. I shake off the carbon. I sell the steel. They just come pick it up and give me scrap steel price. I use the solid fuels. Or i sell them into the solid fuel market to create power. I use these the oil either. Sell it into the blended fuels market or use it for our own energy use and the gaseous fuel. I use the vapor stream. I use for power as well. All of those things. I when i first endeavored to monetize them i thought i would just produce power for the grid but that led me to cryptocurrency mining. You know there's a whole nother track or discussion. That's kind of the story of pr ti in its evolution to that point where i had at scale taking care of ten percent of all the waste tires in north carolina so we have twelve million waste tires year. We were taking care of one point. Two million of those tires ourselves and i had a replicable model that could exist in certain environments. That would allow us permiting. Wow that is crazy okay. So let's talk about the transition to the crypto currency piece. Oh you're doing all these things you're doing these things successfully and how did you come across. Crypto currency is being another opportunity to leverage with the energy. Yeah so i had said to you. I was doing some early stage. Investing and one of the investments i had done is in technology that had made a claim i was a nail polish that could detect date rape drugs. It came out of. Nc state university. The claim was that a young woman or man could put this nail polish on dip it in their drink and detect six typical date rape drugs. I had invested in that company early. And we're working with the founders to perfect it. Mark cuban had invested in that as well a friend of mine and by no at this point friend of anthony's poblano had had said. Hey this guy named palm is leaving snapchat moving back to raleigh. You need to meet with him. Like i think you guys would get along. Well he put us in contact. This is like two thousand fifteen two thousand sixteen and we set up to meet in downtown raleigh for thirty minutes. We ended up staying for two and a half hours. It's like you meet someone and you usually. Yeah yeah it's like us talking right now. It's an easy we immediately said. We gotta do something together and what we did was we developed a concept for full tilt capital which was going to professionalize friends and family investing and we raised. I don't know about three and a half million dollars to go into early. Stage stuff being put it into like sixty different companies and then we had another maybe fifteen million bucks that we put into late. Stage stuff spacex reddit. Airbnb lift like a lot of cool stuff and man. We were deploying capital. We're kind of local heroes in terms of like the early stage venture stuff getting to know each other and then recognize that. There was a lot of talent going into blockchain and a lot of pro money moving in that space so we had started to think about. Could we raise another fund and focus directly in this space. Another thing happened. That was really interesting popping. I drive into charlotte to by mcdonalds to turn it into a coin laundry mat. He had met j barrack who owns the mining store and p was like mining theory in his dorm room at nc state. When he was in college he anthony had started to tinker with gps mining. So on that car ride to charlotte palms telling me about gps mining and a theory him and i'm sitting on a plant that generates six megawatts of free power as a waste stream here in north america and i'm kind of like hitting a wall because i'm like they're only gonna pay me three cents a kilowatt hour for this power. I'm trying to. I'm trying to drive the best economics. I possibly can on this business to start up so palm like well. Why don't you mind crypto currency at pr ti and. What kind of return was that. At the time. You said three cents per kilowatt hour. Yeah so i could have been paid three cents a kilowatt hour. But they're paying me a certain amount of money per pound for the tires as a waste stream on the front end of the business and that is material it's a waste management business on the front end. They're paying me for the the fuel and have some bax in the middle but the waste stream of the d. manufacturing processes are all of these rich fuel. So when i started mining palm myself j barrack we all build the first mine and you see it. There was an article that was in decrypt. I think and it was like og. Bitcoin irs show their initial minds. It shows is. I mine at pri. There we were mining a theory matt like forty bucks forty five bucks that that was the price of it and it was nearly free for me to mine it after the cap ex investment. Right now just to give you a sense. I think we mine a theory. I'm still. They cost me about two hundred and eighty five bucks and so let's call one tenth one tenth of 'cause i'm not going to tell people the bitcoin one but i'll tell you the fda so everyone's gonna want to know this as they hear that you have in a theory of peace or you sell in the theory right so just like we trade. The the solid fuels liquid fuels. We do the same thing with with our creeped out. That was like the whole adventure right. So pomp and i returned from charlotte. We get the mcdonald's turn it into coin laundromat and then we start building. This crypto currency mine and learn about custody and taxation. And what's a theory him and what's proof of work mining. What's bitcoin institutions white paper on. Oh my goodness this. Bitcoin thing has this programmatic monetary policy. And no it's got a supply cap at twenty one would go through the whole thing and him and i iron just like going crazy in palms capacity for work is like off the chain unbelievable savage like he just never comes back and i'm chasing him as fast as i can so the two of us are just going absolutely crazy and i have a little bit of money and i've got this crazy science experiment. You know that we can plug all this stuff in when people are doing things in a crate preston. I'm doing things on acres and so it's it's different. It's just different levels right. And then you have paul nayak's and you've got the birth of gemma nine like were there for everything it's exploding. Yeah still paying you to take the tires as fuel still payment very and we've been preston. I've been continuously mining nonstop through kovin. Everything we just haven't start so the cool thing that happened. Once we got through the application of the mind getting it to scale proving that we can understand control and navigate this complex regulatory environment that continues today. That's when we were like let's raise some some money. Let's put twenty five million dollar fund together and just focus it all on blockchain technologies and cryptocurrency. And that's what mark eusko contacted. Palm arcs in chapel hill. Like it was just like crazy. And and i really just came out of twitter like i think mark was like following pom pom was following mark and mark. The story goes was like reading palms tweets and being like ben. That's pretty smart. That's something i would say. And so i think they just went like had breakfast together. And then that relationship evolved and pumps like you gotta meet mark and then i roll up big beard. Reflective vest like marks exist maniac. Come already so yeah. And then the rest is history. I mean i think you're a fan of mark as well right. Oh yeah they had in fact. It was the first time. I got to meet mark face to face down in miami. So is really nice. That just kind of get off to the sidon. Two of us were able to finally meet face to face because we've been talking for years. But he's nicest such a great guy one of the things. I wanted to ask because you posted this recently and i know you. You said one tenth the theory but i saw post recently. Where you said. If you've got a mining rig you need the turn it on right now so for people that are listening to this. Moment of our listeners are from the future if you're listening to this. We're talking about a period of time. Where the chinese have banned mining. They're forcing the rigs to come over here. We're seeing or right in the middle of a big bull market and we're seeing a negative teen percent difficulty adjustment after a negative five difficulty adjustment. Nothing like previous bowl cycle that we've seen. The price has been punished over fifty percent from the previous high through this bull run and you had the tweet. If you've got a mining return it on to talk to us about kind of more of a current event situation right now where it appears like it's very profitable if you do have a mining setup and you're taking advantage of energy costs. I was running a number of kind of mental models. So if you'll allow me to be a bit kind of all over the place because my initial read was wrong. But i have lots of contacts in china where we source our equipment so i was reaching out to them and saying you know. What's the story like. Is this real china ban real and initial stuff. I was getting was. This is sort of like two thousand seventeen. The guys who are mining off of coal and stuff there. There's a bit of a crackdown on a reward. Going on but people are moving to the providence's that have that have hydro so it's more of shuffling of the deck inside china. My initial read was that. And i said you know the real indicator will be are there. Thousands and thousands of used mining rigs coming online for sale. And i hadn't seen that yet this. I totally misread it. Press and like this is a. I think a real countrywide ban and they're even shutting down the hydroelectric plant stuff. Here it goes. We've lost significant hashing in the bitcoin network does hash kind of lead price or just priceless. I don't know. I was having this discussion with a number of people on clubhouse recently but all i know is that hashes falling off a cliff because those miners are shutting down and there was a significant number of minors in china. I believe the difficulty adjustment. It happens about every two weeks. It can only adjust maximum twenty five percent so it will only drop twenty five percent so the max is twenty five percent. But we're we're coming close to a maximum difficulty adjustment down twenty five percent so there's some real pain going on with the displacement of these chinese miners. They're going to do a few things they're going to move to friendly neighbors outside of china that allows for this. A lot of people are talking about a migration to kazakhstan but remember if you go into kazakhstan there has to be infrastructure in place for you to set these rings. You can't just you can't just take massive amounts of of this. These power hungry miners. There has to be something to plug them in and that could take twelve months eighteen months or longer to set up. So if that's not there than those guys go away right. So there's going to be a segment of chinese miners that go way there's going to be a segment of really smart chinese miners that have moved to favourable close proximity countries. And there's gonna be some that are coming to the united states without a doubt that's probably the migration but we're seeing the difficulty drop. Hashing is dropping so it allows for s nines which are a prior generation of minor to be profitable again. So that's what i said. Look if you've got a minor plug it in right now because you're going to participate in capturing some of the mining reward. You know the nine hundred. Bitcoin day that come out go get it. This is the cool thing about it regardless of the bitcoin network losing china. Bitcoin never really doesn't care it's still going to put out. It's nine hundred. Bitcoin a debt. Which is a fantastic thing. When you think about the programmatic monetary policy of bitcoin and hate using these kind of buzzwords but it is a fantastic innovation. The supply cap and the difficulty to mirror the things that are so so yes so mind blowing to me so massive opportunity for minors who have infrastructure in place right now have technology have systems that control outback's and cap backs. They're going to be huge winners. The price is affected china fahd. Here's more draconian kind of messages coming out right. That's sort of damocles. Still hanging over bitcoins head right now but bitcoin will survive this and i think it comes out better like this feels like bullish kind of news. Hey i'm with you the price action in the short term. I'm sure somebody who got into this in the last three months or whatever and was chasing the the big run is hearing this right now and just rolling their eyes at us. But i'm right there with you. This for me is insanely bullish to watch this amount of disruption to the hardware. That's securing this network. It's rerouting itself geographically so that we even have more decentralisation geographically which i think is a huge win fundamentally. It's doing it with zero downtime. Sure the blocks got a little slower. Not botch in. It's it's going off without a hitch and is doing in this completely decentralize way were. Nobody's managing her leading anything. It's just naturally happening so like you. I see this as being extremely bullish. That's going to be really interest. I think the interesting thing right now is like how long how much pain is actually going to materialize out of this. Because i just can't imagine the costs especially to all these miners in china. Is i think honestly jason. I think they were just as shocked and confused as you were as i was as everybody else in getting mixed signals as to how the government was going to regulate this and not regulate it was really kind of their opinion and it's nothing of the sort as as it appears right now so if you just think of it from an expense standpoint from a business owner standpoint if you just got notification for an extraordinary expense that you were not expecting to shutdown relocate maybe into a completely different country like the cost associated with that is huge. If you're a mining company that's been denominating your retained earnings in bitcoin. For all these years you have to sell something your bitcoin. The pay for these massive expenses to relocate a significant portion of the hashing for the entire network. So you know when is what on. Watch the price action. at first. i was like Fifty percent is not anything. I expected on the cycle because the biggest we saw in the last cycles like thirty percent. So we're seeing fifty fifty percent. Then it was his dragon and it was hanging out in the same mad. Something is different like this is way off. and then we're starting to see the videos. Come out of china of like these rigs just like massive massive like companies and entities over there that had these rigs and they're all coming off line shipping and i was just like okay. Finally it's starting to make sense to me at least love asked why we're seeing what we're seeing press into mean. You know this world better than i but it would be naive of me to not think. These miners hadn't short positions on bitcoin. Going into this event as well they denominate their treasury and bitcoin. so there's huge sell pressure. They probably had petitioned on as well. Which continues it. I call this kind of a black swan event right because china constantly does this but this is what super interesting to me. This is a really important time. You had this el salvador move to make bitcoin legal tender. You got the discussion in major developed nations around central bank digital currencies. And you have china trying to institute their digital currency right now as a premium control mechanism to survival extract control etc. Bitcoin threatens that right so obviously you have to take out bitcoin and put in this thing. I was making a joke. I was just saying it survey also more. I mean you're exactly right. Like i think for them. They're watching the price go and they're they're like okay. Where at the event horizon here. This is getting to the point where we're gonna lose control if we don't do something right now again. More more bullish news. Not here pumping my bags. But it feels bullish to me. I have concerns. I'm worried about maxine waters at the end of this month talking. This event and suggesting similar type kind of control mechanisms here in the united states. I don't know how that's going to all go down. We'll see so. I think they're still. We're kind of range-bound. I'm i think that we still have some kind of potential moves down coming off of that meeting but i still am hugely bullish on on a six-figure bitcoin this year. Let's take a quick break and hear from today's sponsor you guys know. I take my food and beverages seriously. And i'm a big believer in the idea that you are what you eat and it really does matter where your food comes from. That's why my wife and are craving fish. There's no other place. We go to the wild. While alaskan company sources wild caught seafood from alaska and the pacific northwest. You can choose from salmon or whitefish or combination and every month. They have these different specials to explore. But they're always of the highest quality sustainably sourced wild cot and that's the key word wild cot seafood delivered right to your door. 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Hey there's others that like Loomis who are very bullish in that have positions and i think that's the beauty in the united states is it's not like one person is going to be able to influence this. It's going to be the collective and the interest of all those representatives that are gonna have to hear both sides of this and you know what's great is is. There are so many people that have substantial positions in this that i think are going to weigh in and try to influence the elected officials to to not make it such a big concern. But maybe that's just me being hopeful. But i i like the fact that you raised that concern. I try to be very sober and realistic. When pomp and myself and marker looking at the market managing our investments. And i know those guys do too. But i think you have to look at both sides of this thing. I don't want to just be like. Oh everything's gonna be fine like they're banning all mining china. It's fine it's not. it's not great. And the other thing that i find fascinating is in the same month. You have the biggest country population wise in the world. that's banning the mining process may banning the exchanges and whatnot. And then you have for. Simplicity will say you know salvador's one of the smallest nation on the planet that just made it legal tender. That irony is not lost on me. And i i think that it curfew really encapsulates with this is all about. This is all about freedom. This is all about giving power to the person that doesn't have access to banking the whole jack. Mahler's thing was incredible. So what a time. The be alive man. That's all i can say. It's incredible you know. I think the president of el salvador said something really wonderful. You know. I think it was like maybe two thousand and one that. They adopted the us dollar in el salvador. I may be wrong about that. I hope it is correct. Two thousand one. They did it because of banking and he made the decision to make. Bitcoin legal tender for the people. It hits right in the wheelhouse of what you're saying but again i can't ignore all of these events happening. All at once that to me is going to produce the kind of coiling event that produces the escape velocity to do this big move because people keep asking what's going to change to get two hundred thousand dollars. Bitcoin jason her two hundred thousand dollars bitcoin. By the end of this year. While it's coming out of all this. It's the resolution of the chinese mining situation. It's you know we come out of the fog of war we're alive it's okay and i think we're off to the races with new entrance into this legal tender discussion because they are coming countries are coming so talk to us about some of your opinions on that. I think you've you've seen some kind of central american countries and even some south american countries start to talk about it. I think mexico is on the table as well. This is big and again. I don't know if having a discussion here in the united states about bitcoin. Being legal tender is is the right one. I've got some views on that. I think we need to continue to clarify kind of how we tax it. And i'd love for it to be more accepted in regards to a currency but you know the whole legal tender thing here in the united states is not the right direction ago right now. I think with so many people were missing with el salvador piece. It may be. Haven't listened to jack. Mahler's is it's not necessarily about bitcoin. The store value about bitcoin the network and providing people that have been unbagged access to something that immediately clears without having to have the infrastructure in place. So if you're a person in el salvador and you wanna still deal dollars in. Let's say he wanted plug dollars from people that are living in in america. You can now do that instantaneously at no fee and you can still receive the dollars without. Let's say you're concerned about the volatility of bitcoin and in storing that in your personal treasury. That's not a concern. That's not what i think. I'll salvador's is pushing. If people wanna do that will fine. If you can handle that volatility in your personal treasury will then handle but would really providing is the remittance and just the evaporation of fee because you're now using the bitcoin rails and it's happening instantaneously from dollars lightning back two dollars again. I think people here in the states. They don't have that problem so it's just completely lost on them but when you start going to some of these other nation states like what you're saying you think it's gonna go in some of these other countries. I think you're right. I think it's gonna go there for bitcoin the network not necessarily bitcoin the store value. That's just going to be an added perk later on right. That's such a great point. I think a really extraordinary example of what you're talking about in regards to cross border remittance is nigeria. What's going on there as i understand it. Billions of dollars go across traditional cross-border remittance rails historically and what i think nigeria saw. Was that fall off a cliff because people were using bitcoin to do that. And then they st- i think they made. It tried to make it illegal to to us and and it's continued to persist an and i think it's not something that. Us citizens are me really dealing with. Yeah but it's huge situation in second and third world applications and i'm an investor in in lightning strike zap. Jack mahler's stuff. I just want to preface the stuff. He's doing so mind blowing an amazing. It's incredible like think about what you said. Someone can be agnostic to crypto currency like. There's no onboard. You don't have to buy. Bitcoin understand bitcoin or some other kind of denominated cryptocurrencies. None of that. You can use your dollars and send them anywhere. In the world and that person can receive whatever denomination of currency they want without the tax implications of buying and selling bitcoin. It's looked at as a commodity or property here so there's different tax laws not looked at as a currency. You're not dealing with any of the volatility. There's no slippage associated with that transaction and jack in that companies resolve all of those issues right. You can hold bitcoin and no fate. You can hold bitcoin. If you want at the end of that transaction or you can just get your currency of choice but that is absolutely fascinating amazing. And it's so disruptive it's so disruptive in so many ways that i understand his passion. I understand why everyone is so excited. And i'm so excited for him and i'm so excited for the application like this test case of a nation state is crazy. You think about this doesn't make any sense. I think the thing. that's even crazier. Is this guy. Twenty seven years old. You listen to him talk. And you're like this guy asked the be like forty forty five years old with the experience and the knowledge that he has. It's just. I'm waiting for walmart to say that they bought some bitcoin. And jack drops that el salvador's made bitcoin and they're using it over. You know zap and strike over the lightning that it's amazing and if anyone's ever used the lightning network all you run your own node and ever and ever use like i have a node and use the zap wallet but it is instant transfer. There's no ten minute block time or forty five minute delay. Anything instant transfer. It's pretty amazing. It's really fascinating. So i always bring that up because anti-big corners talk about the fact that it you can't move money over the bitcoin our blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. But this is the beginning. And i think bitcoin is the end as well. It's the beginning and the end. Somebody might be listening to this that to. Here's your story and they're motivated. And they're saying i want to go out and i want to be a minor explain from your vantage point. The challenges that a person like this face is how realistic something like. This is just kind of i. I guess. Put the reality check into what this would be for a person like that. If you wanna do it adds scale. This is an expensive endeavor and there are a lot of technological hurdles infrastructure hurdles that you're going to have to overcome to do this right so if you want to hook up a few rigs at your house you can do that. You got to get an electrician and you have to buy them from amazon. And you could do that. It'll cost you if you buy some s. Nineteen there about eight thousand dollars each so. It's expensive you'll make change every day. You know you'll get dusts. dusted bitcoin. Right but at scale. This is a big endeavor right and just to frame this buying megawatts of power. If you went to a data center a new said i want one and a half megawatts of power. They may charge. You hear north america anywhere from six to fifteen cents a kilowatt for that. So you're talking about paying somewhere between eighty thousand and one hundred thousand dollars a month in a power bill so just again just two megawatt megawatt and a half of mining your megawatt you'll be able to maybe stand up two hundred two hundred and fifty of those s. nineteen. Take about three thousand. Give or take watts to the wall. So two hundred two hundred fifty times eight thousand dollars. So there's your capital expense for just the machines right and power supplies now you need some kind of racking system to set them all up right. So that's gonna be more infrastructure you'd then commit all of that to this environment and then tied to a mining pool pay the mining pool one percent and off you go now you're a minor that's probably over-simplified as we're thinking about this price action right now and we're thinking about the cap ex associated with doing this type of business in the capital outlay that's required to do this type of business upfront and then the loan that's maybe borrowed against because that is super cheap right now if you're borrowing and so now you've got to continue to make those payments and now you're just you basically have been pulled shouted all down move or sell it all that's really expensive super expensive and if you've been collecting bitcoin in holding in your treasury you now got to sell it and i just painted a picture for one megawatt were talking about our five hundred megawatts while thousand megawatts three thousand megawatt mine so take everything i said in just multiply like it's simple math. This is a heartbreaking scenario for people who were like. this was their their escape from. Poverty was their holy grail moment. And it's been taken from them because of the government's initiatives and intentions and bitcoin loves freedom. And it's going to naturally migrate to wear. Freedom is set true a couple last questions here because men that our went really fast the first thing i want to tie so i'm down in florida on vacation. I go into a sunglass shop because my sunglasses broke. And there's a kid in front of me and he's asking the guy hey. Do you have pit. Vipers here and i was like whoa. So this isn't just the jayson williams thing like this is. This is a really popular. And so i asked the today's hey pit vipers so i immediately asked him i said. Are you a bitcoin. And he goes no man. He's like look to me. Like what are you. What kind of questions that. I just want to get some sunglasses and These really popular and he goes. Oh yeah like these really the most popular sunglasses for like my gender. He's he's obviously young guy and he's to say. This is the most popular sunglasses from generation as i. I know the guy who's like behind some of this. So were you an investor. Did you stand this up. I know this is kind of an off. The wall question at this just happened to me. Yeah so i was not an investor. But i will say this to you that i stumbled upon the website which was like nineteen eighty. Ask video game website. It's really it's done by intention. I just said those. Are the most ridiculous randy macho man. Glasses ever like. I want to get a pair. And so i do think sometimes just to decompress and and i like to have fun. I would wear around and they were ridiculous. It'd be at the beach you know drinking and natty light and i've got the sunglasses on and people are just cracking up. But no i. I will take credit for starting the pit. Vipers kind of the whole launch. And that's that's me. I definitely will take that one. I would vipers everywhere every everybody rocks the pit vipers so this goes into my next question so dave portnoy when he goes on his variance. He's always talking about the parabolic guy with his ugly sunglasses right. He's like he's playing the whole thing so my question for you is. What kind of salad dressing does dave actually like his salad. He puts week sauce on his salad. Which is something that you may not see but they produce at barstool specifically for dave. So that's what. He uses a pork forum because he drops it a lot. I think that's all we've got all right on a serious note. That was fun on a serious note. You are a guy who's extremely successful at which you've done in your life. What is some advice. People were hearing this people. Look up to you. What some some of the best advice you can give them and just things that maybe they can really kind of internalize or maybe take away from the conversation that can carry them through the rest of their life. We're at an amazing moment. When i was in college the internet was born. The internet was there. And i had no resources but i realized that would be a big thing so like you and i are sitting here. We're talking about something that i would expect. And it's it's overwhelmed your life. It's everything to you like. You're not thinking about i need to go. Buy a mall. Does not like something that you're out like hunting for the next piece of real estate. Like i just can't imagine you're doing that. My single best advice right now beyond believe in yourself and all those cliche things like it's really by big klein. This is an amazing moment. Right now and you're not priced out. It seems expensive right now and soon people will be thirty five thousand dollars. Bitcoin is probably an enormous hurdle for people. Bitcoins divided into one hundred million. To toshi's you can own some of this and owning some of it is critical. Like i just can't emphasize that enough and my i could spend another hour talking about self help in how to be motivated in going after life and all the rest of just like you can. But i don't want to miss this point by. Bitcoin owned bitcoin. Learn how to self custody. Bitcoin and what would you say for a person who who hears that. And they're saying well you know. I'm just i'm not there yet is is. It's something that you have to have just an intense amount of knowledge and hard work to really understand it so you have the conviction like the you obviously have. This is where i break from a lot of fundamental principles and get into some moral hazard where people will block me or think that i'm being irresponsible. I don't think you have to have a total comprehensive understanding bitcoin before you participate because it's really difficult. I'm saying by a little bit of bitcoin and learn along the way build this airplane while you're flying because i've been around since like i. I heard a bitcoin in two thousand twelve. I really started learning and studying two thousand fifteen. I still don't know at all like i'm learning every day. If i waited to buy bitcoin until i understood it taliban. I never own it like i've never owned. It goes back to to use starting your first company. It's very similar to what you were saying earlier in the best way to learn about. Bitcoin is to buy bitcoin the best way to learn about bitcoin custody. Bitcoin deal with an exchange. Connect your bank account to an exchange moves some sats from an exchange to some cold storage device. Think about how to protect your seat phrase like that's how you learn it's really through doing. This is a little scary right now. And i know if you bought bitcoin at the top at sixty some odd thousand sixty four thousand. I just want you to know. I did the same thing. I did the exact same thing. I bought the top of bitcoin every time. There's a top. And i do it with intention. So i'm right there with you. I don't ever wanna be like a guy that like. Oh he's saying this but doing that. I bought the top bought every top. Bitcoin i'm not worried about it. Just hold this asset. Never sell it. The thing we are all thinking about is like. How do we live off of bitcoin without ever selling our bitcoin. That's the discussions. I want to have what people like. What are the strategies in the future so that. I don't have to sell my bitcoin. But i can somehow monetize it borrow against it safely like really deal with maltese. Like is there a trusted party. That's an intermediary in this. But i still hold my keys those kind of discussions that we're going to have in the future because we're talking about owning new york real estate and i saw some questions people had posted as far as how you think about receiving an interest rate on posits. Your i think blocked by sent you a belt for receiving so much in year. Talk us through how you think about this from a risk standpoint because this if there's one thing that will you know get people on twitter emotionally responding. It's typically around this this conversation as far as custody you know what's a responsible level of deposits with a third party versus holding it yourself. What are some of your Thoughts on this jason. This is this is my opinion and this is. This is what i was doing for. I want to be known as someone who was pioneering in trying to create yield on his bitcoin and digital currencies. And when i say digital currencies. I'm talking about stable coins at first. Because i'm retired. And even though i'm building companies building pr ti since two thousand fourteen. After i left fast men. I don't get a salary right. I had an exit. And i still have young kids and a wife who has to the tennis courts and all the rest of the stuff like i still like watches and cars so i want to continue to create more wealth not tap into my principal and have a certain lifestyle. I got out of the stock market. I'm managing my own family. Trust and i'm looking at the fact that i have an increasing position in bitcoin. But there's no real mechanism to drive yield on it like really it's just a you buy the asset and you hold get it off an exchange you put it in cold storage in that stat. Block by comes around. And they have at the beginning like they're paying six percent a py. On bitcoin. Eight point six percent on stable coins. Yada yada yada. And there's a number of companies out there voyager celsius etc so not pumping any individual want. I i immediately said look. let's test. how stable this is so. I took two and a half million dollars. Cash turned it into g. usd which is gemini usd. It's a it's a stable coin that the winkle voss twins produced out of out of gemini in a dome assailed at block fine. They paid eight point six percent. Ap y in bitcoin so generated two hundred fifteen thousand dollars of bitcoin a year. Something like that. That's material so in my mind. I'm like okay data point. I can feel mine. Bitcoin with cash. I don't have to buy mining equipment. I don't have to buy two and a half million dollars worth of mining equipment. I can buy this interest. There's some risk you've got how is blocked five paying me point six percent. They have a whole world of re hypothecation strategies and lending mechanisms. They've done a pretty good job of that. An investor through morgan creek digital company. I took it to another level. I said look compounding is like one of one of the most powerful forces in the universe. Let's drive some yield on. Bitcoin as well so i had a stack bitcoin in. They're getting six percent. Hang me and bitcoin. So i had the cash started putting all of my cash. I don't know if you keep three months six months. A cash reserves blah blah. I took it all. So i was like ninety nine percent digital currencies and then i had my bitcoin asset shoved in a significant amount of it in a strategy to earn interest as well not popular. Right i don't know my private keys so from bitcoin maximalist situation. A big coin risk assessment. People just thought. I had lost my mind. It's not popular. I didn't have any loss of my principal blocked by do an excellent job of protecting that asset. it was always available to me and it paid. A lot of yield is turning over your private keys to see five the right mechanism. Probably not probably isn't the right way to go. And i think unchained capital. They've developed a multi egg kind of situation where they own a key you on a key and then a third party. I don't know who the trusted third party is. That has a key but that's a little interesting as well that can work. I think sovereign has developed a mechanism. But i'd love to hear your thoughts as well on this. I'm someone who tolerates extraordinary risk like that. That's where i get the rewards and knock on wood. I've been lucky that it turned out. Okay for me could've turned out terribly my concern especially with the c. Fi entities is. They're they're achieving a lot of their yield because part of their books are to institutional clients. That aren't over. collateralized. Like if if you and i go to block. We opened an account and we are over. Collateralized if we're borrowing money and if we're making a deposit it's not necessarily over collateralized because they got the institutional side that's that's then borrowing so i think that for me that's the kind of the crux of the issue. The thing that i keep bringing up with block fire any other platform we could be talking about celsius as well as i think. They need to kind of manage some of their retail clients separately. Firewall them from the institutional clients through corporate governance. Basically break it in two different companies and then have a parent company at the top. So that it forces the two entities beneath it to protect the retail investors that are over collateralized that it's just completely over collateralized at all times and then obviously settles on a twenty four seven kind of marketplace. I think that as you look at the that whole industry moving forward. I would like to see that being more transparent where they're kind of breaking the institutional books away from the retail books. But the i think my concern. Jason is more if we get into a really strong bull market like if we saw the price of bitcoin ron to hundred thousand and at the same time we see traditional markets selling off heart. I would have a lot of concerns of the institutional under collateralized portions of their books spilling over and producing risk for the retail clients. That's where i think that there's risk so personally if i had money in these platforms. If i saw the price really start to run not to the downside but to the upside. I would start pulling everything out of there personally. I think you're onto something because those are the conversations that i've had internally not with blog fi but with my group of friends and people who i check things out with you. My concern is the upward volatility of bitcoin. As well like. I've invested in unsuccessfully in a number of companies that are trying to provide insurance. You know what what i want is a one to one bitcoin insurance program so that in the event of a loss not of my doing but if i had my bitcoin and a c. five product. Pretend bitcoin there and they screwed the pooch on it. I had an insurance product that gave me ten bitcoin back. I would pay even if it was five. Bitcoin like you know what i'm saying like i don't want to necessarily be paid some fiat. I'm concerned about that. Would love to get some percentage of my bitcoin back. That would be interesting. I just don't know how to do it. And i'm looking for some company to provide me some type of insurance policy that i can pay with the application of my bitcoin into these environments. If i want some type of insurance i don't know why it doesn't exist and why block fi celsius they don't offer it. I think celsius maybe working on something like that but it's not something that is like a leading edge of their marketing campaign. That's what i would do if i was the. Ceo of one of these companies. I would be offering an insurance program. That's better than the next guy's every day at a lower yield. And i think people would sign up figure it out you know at the end of the day. I think if we warped ourselves five ten years into the future. I really think that the the market is going to view the unchain capital kind of model. Where you have one of three keys is actually being lower risk than something that is you know has a kind of a black box to it. So it's huge. I think the reason. I like personally talking about it. So much is because i think that if this actually presents the case for what real risk free rates are the repricing of everything on the planet of all equity based instruments gets dramatically different than where we are today where these risk free rates are just such a lie of epic proportions. If premiums are based off of a six percent return or higher. Which is where. I think this is going. I just can't imagine what that does. The equity premiums in the coming five to ten years is just going to be insane to say the least. I totally agree. What what do you feel about. I know we're closing out. But what do you feel about the fiat mining strategy. That that i'm talking valid. I'd never thought of it through the lens a minor. So when you were describing that i'm thinking okay so jason's looking at it like hey. I spent two point five million dollars on hardware and cap x. To start a business. And i would produce this much bitcoin in a year. And here's this thing every year. It's doing the same thing without me. Having the manage all this hardware and at any moment i can. I can pull it back. I really want your listeners to think about a fiat mining strategy where you take that three months or six months of light emergency money you lose your job. This is what and put it in a stable coin mechanism and allow it to compound in bitcoin. Powerful opportunity. This is why. I'm really excited about what keelan longs doing with vaughn. She is all about not really participating anything and really kind of building those firewalls if you have a paycheck and you're sending it to avant in. Its she's immediately turning it into our stable coin and you're receiving yields that are even close to what we're seeing. I mean it's just the total. It's a total game changer. I'm an investor. And avant he to geek out and smile. Because i'm a huge huge fan. I agree with you a hundred percent. It's totally different. Iteration of what fi and celsius like this is a bank. That's not gonna re ipod vacate. Like she's saying that that's the danger that's an exploit. I think the end of the day. When i'm looking at these two different worlds being constructed side by side the legacy system and this whole bitcoin economy one is all about over collateralisation without re hypothecation and the other one is the polar opposite the traditional is the polar opposite of that in their completely incongruent with each other as the printing presses. Going strong these two worlds can have overlap without there being issues or concerns if we get into a really strong situation where it appears like the one world is starting to take over other bitcoin starting to take over traditional markets with this risk to the upside in everything in the old traditional market getting replaced with these higher interest rates. I'm just concerned at how the two worlds can coexist simultaneously. You're going to have one. That's melting down where everyone's fending for themselves a little concern a when that happens how it happens and it's just kind of made me take much more conservative approach to doing that. In the meantime. I think you're going to have a lot of kind of signposts along the way that are suggesting that that events about to take place in my opinion were nowhere near that right now like you got a lot more time to react than kind of what we're seeing right now but at the same time. I think that that's the risk. That's the thing that i'm concerned about when it's here who knows if it happens. I don't know and then like we didn't talk about defy which is different than si fi huge regulatory issues. Coming up for defy. I think white nova 'grats in a comment today about it and i've been concerned about it ever since it's why pomp and i avoided the ico's educate me on this. Because i'm not. I'm not up to speed on some of this. Yeah just think there's am l. Kyc issues everywhere. When it comes to defy you got taxation black coal event going on. You've got people taking a theory converting it into a wrap. Btc product putting it on curve putting it in rensselaer. Now you've got a wb wrapped curve ran in a stake mechanism making one hundred and fifty percent. Py you know. It's like many have to unwind. There are all these fees associated with getting back to east no l. kyc allowing that to exist. Kinzler was before. He took the job that the sec was talking about specifically why he had many issues with a lot of this. So do you think that he's going to be coming out in the coming year and taking much more aggressive stance because since he's been there and nothing's really kinda come out of it. My concern is it's so nuanced so complicated that it gets lumped into like bitcoin. That's what kind of socks and try to stay kind of neutral and mike political perspectives. When we do these interviews but listening to elizabeth warren talk about like energy fund. It scares me if then she turns her focus on sif. I defy bitcoin or lack of understanding about like the moralizing power thing. That's going on right now. It's scary if you get into this complicated. Like hot potato game of defy and the tax ramifications. The easiest thing to do is shut down. Just say look. This is a an untracked. Darn pool of tax avoidance and money laundering. no. I think you're right because if you're not spending a lot of time to fully fully understand it takes a lot of time to fully understand a lot of this is just too easy to just lump it all together and luckily gins ler has the background from teaching at mit and some of his previous comments before he came into the job where he's has specifically said bitcoin is not like these defy type projects and ico's he has a very distinct the nation between the two at least in some of his previous comment. So hopefully he's the guy sitting at the head of the table kind of shepherding a lot of these conversations but as you well know they can go astray and go in many different directions with short narratives attached to them. Everything is converging. Now you're going to have these discussions this year on defy see fi stable coins central bank digital currencies. Bitcoin is a currency. Is it property. Because of the pressure that el salvador's putting on the world. Now what if. I go to el salvador. My selling them property or am i using money. It's money there right. So why isn't it money here. Like i'm confused. It's getting crazy but you know where where there's a lot of volatility and risk and not necessarily knowing the outcome is is where your massive rewards are like attached and tethered to so while you agree. That's why i'm like you know what getting the game by bitcoin. It's the single best advice. I can give you right now. Because buying bitcoin is is an investment in yourself when you buy bitcoin and you're a big corner in front of me. I know you have your crap together. I really start to think about you differently. Like i really don't have time for people who don't own bitcoin at this point. I don't wanna talk about anything else so if you own. Bitcoin are interested in it. You're not going to be interested in me. And why would you talk to me. Because i look insane with my good vipers and minority light and all the rest right a as dave coordinator jason. Thank you so much for making time. This was an amazing conversation. I thoroughly enjoyed this and we definitely need to do it again. My pleasure man. Hey so thanks for everybody listening into the show. If you enjoyed the conversation be sure to subscribe to the show on whatever podcast app. You're using we really appreciate that if you have time. Leave us a review. So thanks for joining us this week and we'll catch you next wednesday. 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20210927 belittling the king james bible

Jesus is the Christ

05:58 min | Last month

20210927 belittling the king james bible

"In doing is more voice Voice recording here. I've been thinking about things about The the faith and things like that. And i think that it's important to to be aware of the entire king bible scripture. Some people won't just part of it. I think they want the healing port and they want the wonders and miracles and they want to be in authority. They want to be have the authority of jesus christ of god or so. I think it is important to read The entire bible and realized the entire bible is true. And i think that eventually people will notice that as they grow older the faith they realize many of them some are trying to press into some magic peelers trying to to get something but i think that one can be god so god Is the one who leave by time with notices right. You know eventually kingdom by bliss right and these people who want to believe of those who use the bible. I think doing it for purpose because they want the authority themselves. They've noticed that it's the way to go. Because the bible is the kings bible east greatest the guy the person can have its most accurate guide. A person can have in his life or life and because of that. If you tell people north to read the kingdom's bob you get power over them. And that's the catholic. Steed during the door gauges when the bible is only available in that thing. And that's why they murder william wounded because he made the bible available in english so Basically takes away powerful people. If you're the only one of access to the bible you can have more power because the other people are blind. I know some people might have more of a gift than others. I'm sure there are people who who are not blind but the the bible is help for a believer. We have final authority because a lot of christians want to be the final authority over you. They wanted to be christ in not necessarily your life. but they won't be christ on earth and You know and that generally is sam soaring purposes. They want the power and authority price. They want the healing. And the miracle of the prophecy. But they don't of course. You don't want to be crucified or anything like that. But they want power and they won't power over you with you are in contact with them. If you're in front of them they will want power over you as well. So in that sense the kingdom's bible when we have A reference when we have a fine authority in the book they lose the power over us because no longer do we have the goal or have fellow either gold to them or have fellowship with them because a lot of christians they've find christ through fellowship with other christus. And when you do that you get. You can be manipulated. You can be taken advantage or you can get into see no wrong fellowship. You can be subject of awards. Sheep's wolves sheep and forms. Prophets and all kinds of evil satans ministers become the ministers righteousness. So you can become the subject all kinds of evil if your final authority is some local church or federal sheep with christians or whatever a lot of short people they have a meeting and they come to a decision based on democracy or based on whatever they decided in the meeting so when you have refined authority would usa king gays bible you are. You have actually an advantage because they find authority first of all that is correct thinking you have final authority that the cannot manipulate and so you can just withdraw and read your bible and you have the truce these enormous strength for a belieber. That's why i think those are believed to tina's bible. They are doing that. They haven't again Some kind of again. That that that itself. Sorry that is not for. The best view is not to benefit you. Or it's some self soaring again that they might they might be over trying to win against you.

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Shout It Out Loudcast: "Smashes, Thrashes & Hits"

Rock N Roll Archaeology

1:55:06 hr | 2 months ago

Shout It Out Loudcast: "Smashes, Thrashes & Hits"

"Hi this is bruce kulich. You're listening to shout it out loud cast with tom. and zeus. these guys know. Kiss inside and out dave freak me out all the time you're going to enjoy it. Don't episode is epic Kill what's update kiss army. Thomas zeus another episode. Shouting aloud cast episode one thirty. Five smashes thrashes andy. It's yes this time. We are doing the compilation all. Boy we've we've we've referenced this a bunch of times in past episodes so its final year. All boy old boy. It's a big one. Yeah so we are very excited to get this one going. We are well. I am i i mean this is right in my wheelhouse in my second coming of kiss in my life. This was very big watermark moment. For me i agree up. I'm excited to talk about it. I don't know if i'm excited about the album. But we'll find out soon. I hear you. I hear you but as always tom. We always go back to last week's episode in last week we did a game with our buddy sunny ho as the host. We did kiss clues to the second time. We got our asses kicked. But we don't give a shit Soccer take it way too serious yet. Relax settled down. Johnny kiss gameshow settled down. Yeah just fucking settled on We played me. You and murph as a team and called team shouted out loud gassed versus the team of stephen michael from grownup rock in bockel and loose cannon people who do not believe in first names and for their podcast call cobra. Fire is so those two Teamed up together with steven and They breed us. They beat us unmercifully. Beat us and mercifully. Yes it's very bad. Yeah yes picture being beat like that unmerciful and having my own flesh and blood standing laughing at me. When i laid in a puddle of my own flooding pitch was awful i i. I'm so hurt my stomach with this. And we got some feedback on that and we'll get to the feedback but usually we go to a pole and i believe the poll was from the question of last week. Right correct so yeah. We always do an episode based on You know what we talked about the week before and it usually when we do game show sometimes the question of the week could be a little challenging so we just decided to get a little creative and have the question of the week Although i excuse me the poll of the week be based on our question of the week and the question. Last week was To summit up would kiss still be around if they never did the reunion. So the options were yes as big as ever know that'd be broken up They'd be headlining the monsters iraq or they'd be playing small clubs pretty even split between no. It'd be broken up and playing small clubs. No got thirty. Two percent small clubs got thirty one percent yes as big as everest. Twenty-three in headlining the monsters iraq who's got fourteen percent so a lot of different opinions on this Lee bruton said. I'm going to say small clubs stripped down shows. Half tempa with bruce kulich back in the group it would be cool as the settlers would vary and it would be a more honest kiss. Dave says kiss her hardworking. Numerous lineup changes the reunion tool. Was what the fans wanted in the band. Also at the time should've went back to eric. Singer bruce culic after they got a reunion tour I've been my with on that john. Shaffer re alternate timeline stuff. I'll rub my time stone and conclude that gene ever marriage and paul steed married to pam. Peter news killed each other off during the bad boys. Tour vinnie was elected mayor of nashville and erected. And angst at you okay. And then one of the greatest twitter handles that has interacted with us in recent memory don. Flamenco from punchout chimes in his profile picture is the great don flamenco He says i'm saying small clubs will kind of financial shape or the in before the reunion tour. If i remember it wasn't the best the reunion to re sparked interest in the band without that. I'm not sure where they would be now or if they would have even made it that much longer. Twisted kissed her. I say broken up. Revenge was great. Toll was great most likely if not loved it. Sales great attendance horrible carnivals came next most fans did like it wouldn't have sold more than it did. Ego and money would not allow them to do clubs solo bands from paul and jean afterwards. Interesting Stephen michael who was participating in the episode going brooke says they'd be playing small theatres about five thousand seat capacities with co they would probably call it quits. That's interesting because you're right they're not calling it quits now because of the end of the road tow but you gotta wonder if they were doing that with just hung up grim richly. I said not around. We're talking twenty five years old and they have not been interested in making music too proud to be doing small venues in their sixties. Return to make up seeing the only solution to me. Vincent don't call me. Roman maroney not not down dot com said. I need an option for yes but not as big as today so. He thinks that it's still be together. Just not as big another great twitter handle can in satan service like that. I don't think. Jean paul's egos would let them play clubs or being opening act. Another eagle comment. I like that people know kiss three reunion and insane amount of marketing without that they'd be out parking cars with as hardy man says they would've played clubs like most of the band's wall spur twisted sister rat poison. Did at the end of the air. Hardrock days maybe. Our buddy steve. I think will be the small club hawks option. It'd be new music but they would just go round playing stripped down shows with the odd residency and festival. Appearances thrown in kevin's on fire. I'm thinking they'd be doing montserrat. Crews m three festival type stuff playing theaters and like you guys said probably giving us more music. and then zeus. You said monsters iraq as headliners over alice cooper. I would hope so john gross. I don't think small clubs. But i would say they'd be doing theaters. Maybe both five thousand seat ones alexandra. Rook they still have bruce and singer the band torn small-scale a die hard fan base that also released decent albums. I agree with that. They probably would. And then some episodes specific comments about the game kansan. Satan services. Love the episode guys. Great job nijr savage quota the year so far by zeus quote. We are not hot chicks. I definitely don't remember that comment. But i'm not gonna donor but he knowledge. I feel like i've been duped. Nothing makes sense anymore. I love the kiss clues episodes guys. Although do you guys actually light kiss or no they are. Your asses were whipped in style. You just got your asses quipped by a bunch of goddamn nerds. that's right revenge of the nerds graham richly. I wanna hear. I wanna hit a cute versus piss cakes take. Maybe we'll have outcasts cakes as well as this cops in our buddy randy bosworth keeps changing his twitter handle today. It's paul's bare. feet aces. Great episode has always boys funny bastards and it's a picture of a urinal with a piss cake in it sunny ho. He chimes and i'm sure the listeners will school way better than the bozos we had on. Maybe steve disco like to brag. That i did better than the official contestants. But i didn't fun questions sunny but as brutal as ever lebron says yes. Some of those questions were hard Yeah we know. We know digi from tennessee. Post a gif of foghorn leghorn. I'm not gonna comment on that. So yeah the little bit of twitter feedback not too much this week which is good because it leaves room for the for the big episode. We've got coming up at the zoo. She got some stuff on facebook to get to. Yes i do. Yes and you know what it's like to be hurt. Yes and i hate that. Mark damore currently road trip in with wife. She prefers music on such trips but gave it. Instead we could give one of my regular podcast try well. Let's just say. I'll be finishing up this episode on my own at a later date. Thanks mr feces. Sorry and even tell the story yet guys you you run the risk of playing these episodes with family or for kids or wives or significant as you should. You should know. Better kevin jepsen. I love these episodes. Sunny your amazing at these questions. Wow i didn't do very good but tom. Zeus and murph. What the faulk. How did you not get the question where the answer was kiss. Oh my god. I was screaming kissed at my phone. Cube six piss case but. I don't remember feces back story. Maybe i'm wrong. Can't wait first of all the whole thing would sunny and that kiss question. he's he. That was just ridiculous. That was just typical kuni. No one got it. 'cause nobody's mind was trained to think of kisses the answer. Yeah we thought it was a band related to kiss but anyways we're stupid. What can we tell you. Yeah matt wallace. This was fun. Sunday did a good job with the questions. The question carrie. Stevens made me think. Of how fucking hot bridget. Fonder is pooper. Here we go. This is i remember. Read this this brutal. Hooper and pissed. Trench make me want to leave her face looking like it was dipped in a fifty gallon drum of condensed milk. Got kind of the same way. Ricky rocket makes jericho field wealth. Gotta go crap now by all. Righty then he needs to come up with the friggin list of his alternative terms for anatomy. God over on our loud casters group. Age tony smith. The catman did it in the crapper with pandemic paul's cream pistol. Max lynch the game was almost impossible to participate in god and he has a little pitcher of paul with a quote. If anyone key con construct a kiss clues game. that's practically unplayable. That's you've a tabuni. We love them. That's why we love jumps in. Well can't make it too easy like teens. E- says match mc lynch says dumb it down way down her. Yeah paul heater. Just listen. Chuckled all the way through couple thoughts. Steve is an absolutely star silent but deadly. That wasn't silent strokes. I need more than a little devious with that. One question never considered as the answer. Bastard finally please tell me that bockel is not going on that kiss cruiser. Zoos there's no fucking way one or both of them isn't going overboard. Zeus if i was dead give you a hand believe me. It'd be more than just me throwing him overboard now. I think he'd be talking the whole way down going going on that cruise. And if he did you right would be tiny anchor on his neck and throwing them overboard. O- odd good times. Anyways is my pleasure right the review. I haven't been able to sport. You would like try again. Lease give you guys back in a small way. Love you guys all we appreciate it as always man. Thank you for the support buddy. Absolutely thank you so much buddy. Our buddy steve flight final score to. Yeah you gotta get that fucking nineties country shit going. This is hilarious. So far graham richly. Oh boy the big winner of the day was mr cooney. A masterclass in bastardy. I tip my hat to you. Sunny buni that's nothing to be proud of You know those those. That's school. Property toyed with yeah. He's johnson positive thing there graham. Tony stratus kiss clues. I always wanted who stares the ship through the stormy. Sea jason warden. Great episode hats off the sunny need for clues and running. The games had my had me guessing as well. The episodes example. What makes you guys the best kissed podcast while love to hear conversation about my favorite band showed loud tasks makes the listener. Feel in ball. If only you could hear me yelling at my phone. The correct answer sometimes the incorrect one is well kind of go back and listen to the first clue episode commit. i skip these type of episodes. I discovered you guys. Keep up the great episodes and thank you. Thank you jason. Good stuff and the peanut gallery has to jump in here. You should also check out. Cobras and fire rock podcasts. Especially if you like irreverent conversation about kiss and just about anything else also we clearly know more about kissing these beantown boys first of all enough with the being township. Nobody uses that except for people who live in fucking minnesota wisconsin. Whatever the fucking great lakes area. You're from my condolences and second of all we don't need your publicist chiming in their back to comment on our chases. Man i'll check it out and jason's a nice guy and he doesn't want to say what we're saying. Yeah i don't know where this. Then they started talking about samantha. Fox and not so oprah. You got a new listener. I have no idea what the fuck they're talking about But good for them to jason. Got a new listener. Good for Llc rig rarer. funny shit embargo. Did make a comment. Thirty five to three bitches could have been more as my team. Not voted against my pick. Diane warren great prizes in the mail box a kiss stuff ship it back. I is is you. Don't get the keep the kids ship. We love you. thank you. Core sparkles the best guy in his mind. So josh season over on. Do all right mr antonio two thousand five. Every call a wrestler us kiss music and the entrance was tasio w with war-machine right bravo and team in wcw and debuted with god of thunder pulling up. That stud stable reference was pure gold on. Sonny's bar which i still gotta find the question where the final answer was kissed. I was thinking it was alice. Cooper the call instead. It was the greatest swerve of all time. Thanks to that to that. Girona hulk hogan given the infamous leg drop to macho man to become the third member of the n. w. o. All those years of kiss training say you kiss present eating your gifts. Vitamins went right down the tubes today. I got outta ten right great. Show lots of fun. That's awesome mr antonio two thousand five. He's always got some comments up. Martha stewart. I love this episode. Because i love playing along. It turned out the answers. I knew immediately. Were all hell's breaking loose and the best bass player. Gene simmons other than that apparently socket history. Thank you guys or another kiss ass episode. Nice tales of a kiss geek glenn from ireland here. First time commented yada commenter yada yada a discovered you guys when someone reached out me saying you guys at bruce on he mentioned my cover of cadillac trains. And how i did it just to screw with him since that one. I've been hooked thanks. Were always making me unexpectedly belt laughter and public transport. It makes me look like a cycle cheers to tom. Zoos everyone around the nation. Raise your piss case. Raise your biz cakes or yes. I love it. I love it. Thank you yes. Awesome fans grill of a kiss geek in rock and welcome to the show yep and then we always end up with our buddy marty white. We go. sushi's talked about mr feces a lot. But you haven't told the full story. You've also talked about cancun. But tom keeps yelling. Save it so you only heard a bit as you know. I have close connections and the kiss world. I am the son of bill. Sean medical mysteries in sean was the one who got pregnant. I'm friendly with ace and a no. He listens to shouted aloud tasks as originally planned a big mr fee seen in his video for space trucking. But he doesn't know the full story. Mr feces got reduced to brief clip of gene dropping. Deuce god unbelievable. And i got for you tom. I think all right. Let's wrap right. Yeah it's wrap it up with a with a couple of emails so we we a wonderful email email here From our very good friend coaster gratitude from up north tom. Zeus in all of the show allowed cast army. I wanted to reach out and express my sincere appreciation for the thoughtful wishes support. All you sent my family's ways these past few weeks be the episodes and social media. The messages were genuine and heartwarming. And prove that not only do the loud casters share a fascination with everything kissed just like you the hosts but they're also regular guys and gals clearly care about other. Your podcasts allows us to see this even if we're so many miles or kilometers away from each other thanks guys. I did get a chance to listen to the dawn lane and kissing was episodes and while they both made me laugh as usual. The banter. between. You guys i had to do a double take on the weekend when my wife said she was making a cucumber salad. As part of our lunch. I almost started to explain but then i figured maybe not clean check into the hotel california next and i will see you all on twitter costa. Aw man you're the best. Thank you buddy. Great great email. Yeah don't don't just next time. The cucumber comes out just just to have your wife sliced up and put it in the salad. Just leave it you and here we will finish up with this one. This is from mark florez. Gentlemen i was a west coast assistant to the ace freely banned from ninety three to ninety five. I have a history with a few of kisses members and even had a small role in star. Wars mandal laurean. Ooh he says. I believe zeus fan on a wish huge fans. All of us were massive star wars. The geeks just want to say how much i've enjoyed listening to your scholley howard. Stern used to say that the great thing about his show back in the day was not that it was guest driven. It never relied on a guest to make it interesting. Let's face it while those other guys on youtube may have some amazing guests. The host themselves have the personality of fucking wallpaper rockin. Ivory i just wanna say. I regret that. And if you wanna take a photo make sure that this watermark on it so that we can enjoy it together. Well all talk to a couple of my kiss. Facebook post a group france. And when we we saw blazed cal back in the seventies. don't we had a great time right. Let me continue. Yeah and if you don't like it fuck off. We don't need you. Where the best there we go not anymore though boy rock unrolls freedom sex in rebellion. But it's also just a couple of guys getting together sharing a few laughs and pointing out bullshit. You guys fit that bill perfectly. Keep up the good work mark florez and then he says. Ps two paul stanley mocking sobbing. You can act like a man. Then he says sincerely don vito corleone and he leaves us as website mark flora's music dot com and with an email like that. You only not only worked for ace freely. your had. a small role in star was mandatory. You compare this to howard stern one of the best emails we've ever gotten. You are comment of the week. Mark four. Thank you fantastic email. My friend excellent lancer. good way. you think we're going to be watching you. Thank you buddy. Great job on that and he brings me back. Tom starting to think again. When when you brought up the dawn you know ten years ago. Could i get to him exactly yup right. I'm sorry but i can't fuck and bring that up without us. Quality one line or two. you got one forming. Oh jeez where. We're gonna go where we're going. Oh i'll get one right now. Jesus christ mike cheeses christ while she's christ all. Let's hit them all now. While we got muscle. You love frankie. Band angelina frankie. Five angels is the best. Give blade music dan. that's the next one. We gotta get on there for for for jack ma. Oh god i can't wait we we're gonna have to do like a god by the livestream that at and by the way i recently watched godfather three or has as or as it's been rereleased the godfather coda the death of michael corley on the movie is not that bad. I'm not gonna tell you that it's just good as to it's good it's good. There's a couple. I i think. Andy garcia is fucking fantastic. In that movie. I love that movie. Vincit study movements. Just take a look at this bagging. What am i gonna do with this guy. I i know you don't like fucking joey zaza him as a character. I like him as a carapace. And larry i love is dressed up as the cop on the horse zaza kelp. Joey you piece a shit. If i can the back and forth between him enjoys scranton gray. I love that shit. You'll take this myself so kill them. What does that have to do with me. A good i. I can do a good al pacino. Three can't do them one or two or three boys. Alpa chino and godfather three. That's when he started a reached of like overacting volk vocals. Al pacino still fantastic. But he sounds a lot different lows. It's true he wouldn't be a friend he dog. Let's look the gets. Let's not forget sunny. Police favourite bridget fonda is in that fucking fantastic off. What she's she's just like naked inputs on andy garcia's coat and goes all sets her up to the guy from that kills. Patrick swayze can put a thorough throat. Yup next week on godfather three the the the the review your godfather moment that might be a recurring theme now. Yes yes yes all right g abort that's how we can get so we can segue into the news. That's right tom. We usually go over to our news not much going on these days. Is there no the big thing right now. Was that kiss just recently announced that. They're rescheduling their south american dates. So little bit of an ominous sign about what's going on. It was scheduled to performance south america. This fall those dates have been pushed to twenty twenty two And then there were rumors on facebook last night. It's been nothing officially announced by the band but there was some stories out there that they're rescheduling their australia. Dates also again. Nothing nothing again. Nothing official from the ban. So you know we're going to see kiss Two weeks from tonight. It's wednesday august. Fourth was seen on wednesday august. Eighteenth i show back from covert so we're excited for that. I think we're we're very lucky to have the the first show back in two weeks because who knows how quickly the the friggin rugs going to be pulled out from under this tour like it did back in twenty twenty. Let's hope it doesn't but things are training in a direction that we're not too happy about So we'll just leave it at that That's really that's really. that's it. i mean. I know paul On his official twitter posted a picture of them on stage and he said two weeks in capital letters. So that got jacked up the Paul's on board for the show. So we'll see what happens. I don't know yeah the cruise fest. Tickets are now available you can go online and search for those and they have. Ace will be there. Bruce will be there. They've got some Vip things some signings and some shit there. That's a lot of fun. I believe the the talisman will be performing as well. There will be some other surprises. They've got but the tickets finally went on sale. So go head up to cruise fast. If you're gonna hit the chris kiss crews in. That should be a lot of fun and hopefully we'll see everybody there and another thing. This isn't necessarily news. This is something that i just wanted to mention. I failed to mention it a couple of weeks ago. I'm so backed up on my podcast episode. Backed up a mom backed up yes. I'm backed up backed up on my podcast episode but any trunk had an episode recently with the the director of the kissed documentary. dj viola. He had it's about a half hour so interview with him. It's actually very good. It's interesting any kind of pick his brain on kind of the behind the scene. So if you're interested in that It's it's actually a pretty good pretty good interview. 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This was pretty big so you wanna tell me about your first interaction with this. Yeah so this came when we were in high school and It was it was a big deal. It was a huge deal because kiss was You know they they had just recently put out. You know crazy nights so they were. They were kind of coming back from a little bit of the early eighties funk And this was big because it was their first compilation since double platinum and it was a career spanning collection You know it was a fantastic collection at classics ahead of the new stuff. Non makeup stuff. It was huge. This is one of those albums where you know. Even casual kiss fans have it It was a huge big popular item on those columbia house. Bmg cd clubs. I i think that's actually where i got mine so i i mean i it. It's you know we'll talk about what we think of the album and its contents but it is kind of in the in the world of kissing. It's kind of an iconic item. That i think everybody remembers when they got it and how they felt when they had it and listen to it. So you know. I'm excited talk about. I think we're gonna have a lot of different things to say about what we think about the the sound of the album. The contents of the album but definitely that was this is a big day in one thousand nine hundred eight when it came out. Yeah i for me. I was starting to get into kiss by this point however I had already dot. And i think there's a trifecta of what revitalized kiss. And i always liked to put things in fact this is just what i do and the first being kiss exposed yummy eighteen nineteen eighty seven the neck speed smashes thrashes and hits november fifteen nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight and the final be an october seventeenth. Nineteen eighty-nine hot in the shade. Comes out the tour. Yup all three of them all three of these brought back in the stall for the seventy s guests whereas before they kind of shed that stuff and didn't really get into it. But i think with you know kiss exposed and that whole. Let's bring in the archives on the footage and people seeing that next thing you know. They're releasing a greatest hits and you know they even had the rock and roll all night Video for exposed in. That showed all the different eras and stuff so all of a sudden there was this kissing makeup kind of seen coming back so for us in the united states. This is the first one yet double platinum in this. We're not talking about killers which came out in europe which i still bought. But then you also had chicago which came out may twenty fifth nineteen eighty-eight. Which is you know. Just a couple of months prior to match the thrash but that was in japan. This is the first one the united states. And i remember when it came out i ran out and bought it and just like before. We're kiss videos ended up on head bangers ball most requested videos and things like that and you'd look for them so they were already in that trend. Wear reason to live comes out boom. It's on their turn on the night. Boom it comes on it as soon as let's put the accident sex comes out and even you make me rock hard comes out. You're catching the videos on mtv. So it was that trend. Your kiss is is just one of the guys it's not. It doesn't have that superiority to those bands. Fellow man. it was in that. Mix with the motley crue videos coming out. What's the new rat video. Come out all those guys kiss was right in the middle with all those guys. They weren't below them but they really want above them. Either i mean. I had the nostalgia form as far as my friends. But i didn't have really kissed france back then just had regular friends and some of them started to get smashes thrashes and hits because it was their new greatest hits that people could get and the songs were on. Mtv the new ones so it made sense for them to get it. Remember by time we went to college. You'd run into people that you know barely like kiss but they would have this cd yup absolutely and and the timing of this compilation to it's right around people. Were still getting cassettes. Eight was cassettes. Cds hadn't taken off full blown yet but it was. Obviously the era of you weren't going to mix tapes at that time and this was also the era when a lot of people casual fans weren't buying kiss albums you know. They weren't buying analyzed. They weren't buying silently. Weren't buying crazy nights. Diehards were but those albums had huge hits. You know had heaven's on fire tears will fall and things like that so this was a great. We've i think we've used this term before but if we have and i'll use it now it's a great starter kit for kiss in. This is also the era of grapes tits albums. Everybody was putting out greatest hits albums and it was a great way to have in your collection a band that maybe you weren't a huge fan of like the hits you know you'd have journeys greatest hits boston's grace. It's whoever the band was kissed. Greatest hits smashes thrashes and hits so everybody had this in and it was really a a really good snapshot of their entire career from the first album up until this So it was a must own. And you know i will just say way into that right now. It's also the best selling kiss album since nielsen. Soundscan began tracking sales in nineteen ninety. One it is the best selling kiss album. That is insane. It's double platinum yup. Yup that is unbelievable. It's kind of sad. It's very sad. It's very sad but yeah so the album we. We'll get into the fax. The albums released november fifteenth. Nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight as we said it made to double platinum. Thick made it all the way up to number twenty one on billboard's two hundred. They did release two singles. Let's put the x. in sacks we'll get to that and also you make me rock hard which i don't believe even charted lex put the accent sex. I think made it up to number ninety seven ninety seven yeah and so again killers in chicago. Sara were released prior but this is the first one in the united states. They were two new songs on this album. Two new videos and there are fifteen tracks on this album. The united kingdom addition. Because they can't do one fucking universal every compilation review. We do we talk about the multi versions of it from all all around the world. Miss had the uk version. Yeah has sixteen songs. So let's just go through the songs real quickly. Let's put the accent sex. You make me rock hard. The two new tracks love gone. Detroit rock city. I love it loud deuce. Lick it up. Heaven's on fire calling. Doctor love strider beth. Tears are fallen. I was made for loving you. Rock and roll night shouted out loud now. The united kingdom addition does not have deuce. It does have crazy crazy nights in reason to live So i mean before we get into the tracks and stuff. I just wanted to list the song jim. We'll go break down the tracks in what should be in. What should it really be there but before we do that i wanted to through the list and let you know what the songs are on this so the album is technically produced by various people including mixes and things like that David whitman was one of them. Brian and david sonar or toner a lot even sure. If i'm pronouncing that correctly. Frank petty and j messina. And i can't tell who did what and it doesn't really fucking matter but the album than the cover was done. The art was done by someone named amy goop in directed by mitchell kanner As far as the cover goes tom. Do you have a comment on that. Oh that's horrible fucking horrible. It's just this is the this is the era and we'll talk about it a little bit more specifically when we get into the videos for the two new tracks. This is when kiss fashioned themselves as a band with a front man. You know like joe elliott jon. Bon jovi. this was kiss with paul. Stanley was the front man. And you could see. Because he's bigger and more out front. You got eric. In gene in bruce in the way back and you got the ridiculous hands coming up grabbing paul. Doing some stupid fucking thing with his hands terrible cover. It's it's it's a terrible cover I know it's the eighties. But i i say this all the time whenever you do in a compilation for kiss. You gotta have more than just a picture of the current band on the cover. Yeah not good. Yeah the if you look at the back cover. It's just the hands. It almost looks a little bit like destroyer like the wasteland. Yeah i could see that. It's not that bad but then you go to. The front is just a pitcher like still photos from photo shoots yup gene in his reason to live outfit from the crazy night. Sarah h ask an paul china flexes bicep doing jazzy hans. Yup i don't care who is saying to them. Look you guys are known for this shit for album covers. And you're doing a greatest. Hits one of all your eras. Maybe we could do something with current album. Current kiss look maybe a makeup lauck in all different variety of kiss throughout the years. No let's do jazzy hans. Paul upfront and gene simmons. Elvis look with now. Bruce eric just in the back now one thing that they did release And i'm lucky enough to have it I don't wear. I know where an audio thing. But i'm gonna hold this up to zeus. They released a gate fold edition picture disc vinyl of this guy. One side of it is the is the regular is the regular artwork. Other side of it is a classic picture of the band in destroy era costumes. Okay and then it actually says on the front of it says kiss smashes thrashes and hits the bottom has fifteen years of history and then you open it up and it's a gate fold with all everything we were just talking about picture pictures of the band throat. Entire era with a huge story of the band like a huge. It's a massive article with great pictures of the entire of the banned from their inception. All the way until crazy nights so you know it's a great collector's item. I love this. it's hard to find. I don't know why it was only limited edition But that's the that's the that's what should have been you know the the cd to you know. I have yeah just just lyrics exactly. Yup yup is just we. This is your greatest. Hits should biggest selling album. Yep is this an iconic cover iconic iconic because of how bad it is which the iconic doesn't mean doesn't necessarily have to me good. Yeah yes much to dismay a couple of knuckleheads that we know and don't forget what iconic means yup. Yup i just it's just it's so disappointing. It's bad the cut and paste of the ban met like it's not even a group photo like you said it's like cut and paste like eric is like in some weird pose. Bruce's lake has his hands on a studies looking to the skies. The fuck doing years. Terrorists a rodney dangerfield. You're doing greg. Ode hey right. I mean jean actually looks alright except for the outfit but i mean the hands grabbing his cock and shit yeah exactly exactly yup. He's loving and like you said paul with jazz hints. Like what the fuck terrible who Look at me. she's fucking no need. No need though. Anyways let's go through the tracks. How about that tom. Okay before we do that. Can i just wanna read a little thing here from the gate fold of this because it does have some quotes from paul so just talking about the album and it's kind of funny. The elvis comes out and eighty eight. You know paul was in his glory as the you know the eighties. Frontman says We wanted to cover all the bases but we didn't want to get steeped in the past. I think we wanted to give everybody a taste of the whole fifteen years of neglect the earliest part of our career. We wanted this to be special for our fans in some way. This took more time in more care than a regular album. We didn't want to come off as something that was slapped together. When you have fans who give you as much as ours they do. They deserve to be given back just as much. The whole idea was smashes was to do something. Special remixing digitally transferring having ericsson beth in two new songs. I wrote a week before we went to the studio yet. It sounds like that So yeah and then at the end it says when we first this is paul again when we first started we were considered a gimmick and there were other bands who were considered incredibly advanced intellectual entities. Listen to their records now. It sounds like a lot of hot air press into vinyl there. Long dead we win. Yeah okay paul anyways. I thought that was interesting. So what else was said about the album. Okay stolen behind the mask. There's a couple of quotes here from From jean paul bruce gene says smashes thrashes and hits stuff was remixed but nothing recorded. I don't like the two new songs but it's interesting when you do stuff. Your perspective isn't always clear when we were doing. We said gee this rocks when you're a kid and you keep hearing these phrases. Will it stand the test of time. You don't know what that stuff means. In retrospect you see that it's the real gauge. Is it to work ten years from now for a new fan probably give it a higher rating for the new fan three stars for the old fan one or two then paul says double platinum came out ten years before we spent a lotta time. Remixing remastering making sure that all the songs were everything they could be. The whole idea was to polish things up in remix but never to change anything. Having ericsson beth was a natural. He's a great singer to songs written three days before we went into the studio. I think the new psalms written for that blow. I think they really suck. But that's paul saying that. Not me but i think besides a really great album five stars five stars after said tucson's below bruce and chimes in and says that was another greatest hits compilation having eric carson. Beth was torture for him. A knife at peter was thrown for shore. Oh that that's a general comments and then as we get into the tracks as a couple more specific things about the two new songs that we'll talk about so yeah interesting stuff aright. Let's go over the two new songs. Let's start off with the tracks right first. One is this but all right. Let's put the ex sex You wanna start with this one zoo since you love the song to death. Let's put the accent sex written by paul stanley and desmond child. You're right. i love the song. This song is that other tri factor. I talk about. Which is paul fucking hitting it out of the park with sexual innuendo and making the song work whereas this song could have been read. My body. Bang bang you know. Let's put the accent sex along with take it off. And i just wanna are the fucking trifecta factor paul stanley sex. Innuendo fucking rock song. I love the song. I don't know why the fuck he needs to feel the need to insult me that i love this song that he created. It's catchy as l. The guitar is catchy. as hell. the lyrics are as cheesy as how but the lyrics to made sense. It's cheesy with the payoff. Obviously you knew her. Because why would you be singing about this shit to the of fucking girlfriend of yours and i. It was when i saw those black lace panties. I thought i saw those ships team. When i saw those cakes i knew that it was you q. Shits thing fuck. It always go to toilet humor fucking eight years old. She male right. That's right that's right. I learned just use the term toilet. Humor was out the male got. I know woman that leaves fogging. He's skidmarks i know. This is all right. Let me let me jump in here. Something some stuff from behind the mask on this paul says x. Sex wound up being a second rate version of addicted to love by robert palmer. Yeah working at that point with desmond. Child diane warren who were both brilliant writers. I think we crossed a dangerous line into kitsch her. The bruce kulich says i was disappointed in the song because it was like flavor of whatever was going on in the music scene. We rehearse that and the other new song and cut them fairly quickly. new york. gene didn't have much participation. It was it was another time. Where jeanne let paul do something because jeanne was too busy with something else. It's funny when we used to do x. And sex on the kiss convention to people would go nuts. Usually speaking the song was very derivative of things that were going on in the late eighties. So as far as i'm concerned let's put the execs. I'm going to be awesome. It annoys the fuck outta me. That i like the song. Great because it's so it's sure it like it right right. Like i'm embarrassed that it's so catchy. Chorus is so catchy. Bruce has a pretty cool guitar solo. It has like a beat and rhythm to it as a derivative. Yeah it's eighty eight. It's it's what was going on but it's a fun song. It's paul in not show. It's so corny when everything dropped his just paul and he goes. I heard somebody knocking. Don't tell me you're not fucking cranking that part. It's awesome right. Yeah if i agree in catchy to you wanna shit on it great. It's a little bit too much of fucking the song by cheated helmet on our addicted to love. Yeah that songs fucking classic. I listen to that song to this day. I'll quote that song up now. It's not just the video that some fucking kicks and those. I'll take anything from the pop charts from the late. Eighty s over anything. That is there now. He's those songs can last. 'cause they're fucking catchy the other fun and the lyrics kind of give you an amid an image of a thought about something you can put your mind on it might be bubblegum stump. But it's there wet ask pussy true. Yeah but it's it's another example. Yeah it's another example though pulse previous comments it's another example of the we say this all the time the revisionist history in shitting on something. Now that you were proud of then fucking own. I hate that whether it's phantom of the park of the elder whatever. I think i think those two new songs blow they suck have you monster of a monster. Classic seventies hard rock album. No that blows okay. This this is a great kiss song. it's an. it's exactly what you want from kiss. Yeah exactly this is kiss in that era correct seventies gifts in the late eighties kissing ninety. There's different versions of in. It's okay yeltsin. Have to sound like seventy skiffs. Doesn't have the sound like schroder for guests and i would love if they fucking played this live. Oh so would i everybody. Would you heard bruce bruce again. We played this. In the kiss convention. People went nuts. 'cause they did love it yukking. It's catchy as all fuck absolutely video. All so we've already talked about this in the past where we kind of mentioned the where they got this video done. There's those buildings yup. And i guess the people that rented out for them to shoot. This video ended up suing them. They thought it was going to be like some model agency there and it was kissing. They're like some heavy metal video strippers shit. Y'all first of all first of all the elephant in the room. We're the hot chicks in this video. I know there was a lot of chicks. They're zeus in both videos. These they got they got the girls that came in last and the misuse pageant to be in these videos these like the fucking like heroin chic or something like fin thin but they're just plain looking as yep pointy the fucking leader of the pack. Looks like it. Looks like the drawing that jan brady got in trouble for when she drew the teacher looking like george wallace. George washington fucking honcker. Yeah woman got the all time. Biggest fucking bottlebuster. Beat fucking like dude. You're poll stanley. It's eight look at all these other videos on. Mtv with the smoking hot chick. I mean look at shuttered out loud. Cats this is what we do. I know other people might be listening. Oh grabbed my hurls. it's offensive talking about at. They're not hot chicks. And you're listening to us. You agree with us. We know you do. Yeah this is the business. We chose exactly Look look at fucking. What's her name bobby. Brown cherry pot -actly or once bitten or the whitesnake videos or fucking anything else of that era and then look at those girls coming out with models and fucking ball breakers not good his hongta's in good and then first of all. Let's let's take the other part which we haven't mentioned yet and this is one. We all know paul's like fuck you. Gene i'm going to not only be like i'm not only going to be like the fucking making decisions i'm going to be in the forefront. I am now a fucking leading lead vocalist. I am now the frontman. I don't need a guitar. And he's got those tank. Tops in pants hyped up higher than fucking don don toamasino in godfather to their fucking passed his nipples. Talk is barely scene because his pants are hyped up. So i but you know. And he's doing his little dance and doing his little love like a muscle inflection and like the chicks on even being sexy next storm. You're like oh. I do like Bruce's guitar on the video. And if you notice gene does even know the fucking words to the song in the background. He's like we'll there's another video that's like that too. We'll talk about but yet he looks like he's not even know what's going on and not to mention the other elephant in the room. I'm sorry paul camp fucking dad's. He looked he looked so confused having his hands empty without a guitar over his shoulder or holding a guitar and we we talked about what we talked about the cover the album. This is paul. The frontman this is paul. Jon bon jovi. Paul joe elliott. Paul david coverdale this is. I'm not gonna play guitar on the front man of kiss. That's what i'm gonna do right now. i'm gonna dance. I'm gonna look sexy. All the other guys are gonna play the instruments. And i'm going to be in front with the chicks i cringe when he knew that he was you and he does the finger thing over. Yeah yeah oh. My god is so crazy. It's bad it's bad but it's the eighties but we fucking love it. I've course seen that video more than any kiss video of all time probably yeah. I've seen that video more. Yeah maybe the forever video but yeah you're right now. I like i'll stay to watch. That can mock the checks or something. A little bit yeah. I've seen that video more than any kiss video that ever was on mtv. I used to fuck in love it. Yup anyways that's the first song the second new song is this off all right. You make me rock hard now. I'm going to wave the flag for this song and we'll tell you why this song because it's paired up with. Let's put the accent sex which gets all the accolades as it rightly deserves. I think this song is very underrated. I'm going to tell you why. I think it's got a great melody to it. I think it's got a cool bridge a catchy chorus. The problem with this song is like what you say zoos. This is the bad version of kitschy sexual. Innuendo paul. this is poorly written lyrically. The saw i think the song is a well written song. The problem is the melody of the song is very serious sounding. It's kind of like that like the the rhythm of it. But i think it's a cool song. I liked the verses and like the bridge. I like the course. I like the solo. But it's just it's just the lyrics. Just make it really really bad. And they don't make it bad in a fun way like let's put the sex is I like the song i mean. I think i might like it even a little bit more because it gets buried and you don't hear it anywhere else other than on this album. We talk about that all the time you know. There's no fatigue with this is nowhere. Okay you make me rock car written by paul stanley desma child and diane warren gets the jump in on the fun some comments about that too. Yeah in the fun. Part of the story is they all thought it was a goof. Believe ball recorded the song yet desmond. Child says and by the mass paul. And i wrote that with diane warren. I like that one. It was more of a joke in a way we were saying. Isn't that sexual innuendo obvious. You make me rock hard. And then his paul again. I don't like it at all. it's too contrived and kitschy. I don't even know quite honestly who played on that track. It wasn't one of our final moments. It was really the height of being overly aware of what other people were doing. And bruce says is great. Paul was copying what was popular at the time. It's not a song to be proud of poor. Bruce sent a positive thing. Exactly exactly tell. Tell me what you think of this song because we never talk about this. Because it's not the i mean. His song also became a theme on a podcast shouted out loud. Cast their album review crew. The it became a theme to that correction behind the mask. Paul wrote that. That's wikipedia if you look on this song you'll see that it's become part of shoutout loud. The podcast yes correct. I will tell you this about the song. There's something in this song. That i fucking really really like in. That is the bridge. Yes that's the thing that catches me. Make me sweat you turn me round you get me. Never let me now. It's awesome it's an. It's got a great melody and it's well written. Yeah if there was something else went with the rest of the song. Something like that. And i was reading that it wasn't seeing that. So fuck you everyone bitch but that bridge. I think is excellent. You could have been something else. Here's the other problem with this song. Genk just told me love like a muscle and you make me wanna flex right now. You're telling me it's like a glove. Yup which i also thought was kind of annoying. That paul writes a song called fits like a glove a few albums ago. And now you'll use that analogy about fitting like glove like come. I think that you know. It's just whatever i think. It's the weaker of the two. I say it's as bad as bang. Bang you or read my body or an those. I still like because to me to their songs but they just don't work like these ones. Yep yeah. I'm okay with the song i i know. It's taken a beaten by a lot of the purest aces on it cheese. No too busy doing dolls at the time. Sorry i'm really fucking into the night over. The fucking was doing dolls. 'cause it's not. Your play was mind john. I love my gals terrible. But let's get to the good stuff as paul would say the video. Okay vat gift goes on now. If you find paul stanley where he like wiggles. His way across the screen plays at this hand is has to be the number one most unmet moment of all fucking times. It beats vince. Neal doing the chicken dance. That is horrendous. You might be true. But let's not forget he swinging from a fucking trapeze video. If that's not very metal either. Okay the whole fucking circus clown performance stage setup that they haven't a background what is happening again. More ugly chicks. He's got his nineties. Wrestler fucking pants onto brutal yeah. They've with required uniform tights. Shut up guys speak for you. I don't know your language. You go exactly. I wanna be just like you figure all these lobotomy and some tights tights with required uniform. Tights perfect. Perfect we're going to be fucking performing. We'll do a performance art for somebody that's people don't know we carry on conversations strictly with frigging moving. Movie jerky boy and arnold quotes. So this video is horrendous. Larry it is fucking laureus. It is the most effeminate fucking looking person doing that. Wiggle across the stage. They thought he couldn't dance. You thought he couldn't dance in the sex video this. oh. I don't know what he's doing here. So he's got fucking answer and you just slice across the stream and what's gene doing in this video not knows what songs playing. It could be fucking. I don't know it could be fucking shouted out loud playing the back on. Here's nor here what he's on. Orderly lips thinking the wrong words. Paul bruce again doing a nice solo but he's like what the fuck of my doing in this band right now. How did we get to this. Point right right terrible terror ever have a trapeze in a walk video. Okay ever well. This one is like jumping around. He's doing backflips. Max flips juggling. The firebombs he wants to be hired for a kids show. That'd be some guys some broad the clown jumps in they sparky's clown guys and broads laying around the house getting high. I don't think so this week now next year. Now we get to the fun part. So now we get to the tracks and they're getting tracks like here we go the first one is love gun Okay we're not breaking down love gun. We'll save that for the episode but the love gun on this versus the love gun that we all know and love on love. The album are two different things. First of all the love gun on smashes thrashes and it is a little bit longer. Three thirty one to three eighteen What else did you notice. it's also faster. The tempo sped up a little bit if you listen them. Side-by-side is a huge difference. Here this is the sped up a little bit and the other thing too that you're gonna notice on this album. All classic tracks have all been eighties. Eighty five meaning. They've given the drums south rules. They sound snappy and poppy almost like durant durant flock of seagulls shit. There's a lot of extra reverb they've taken they've taken the balls off. All these songs is nothing wrong about any of them. So if you're if you're if you buy this album you don't know anything about kiss your notice anything but faulk people like us. So what okay. This is love him. But what did you do to love gun. Yeah it's And you also notice that. There's no paul over the solo on this you know in the solo cuts out. It's not it's gone gone. Y'all keyboards are added to this. Or something. I don't know it's just not as good i called. I can't describe the sound. i'm not a musician to me. Everything sounds muddy muddy. They tried they tried to pop everything up. It's an one thousand nine hundred eight. They wanted to take classic songs and take the edge the rawness off and make them a pop oriented song when they did that with these songs. Play love gun that from the original album. Then play this back to back and you'll know fuck. Let me turn it down when the original album comes on your turn it up the other one place because you can't hear it as well. Yup yup all right then go to detroit rock city another one that they've talked with now. Obviously they took out the whole action sequence. The beginning part of the car getting started all that stuff and they take out the car accident and at the end. So that part is just gone in ripped out. But it still gets that eighty-five of this and the drums and stuff. Yeah that that's pretty much the big thing to remove removing that intro and just giving it that hoppy sound like just stop. It's that's what they do with all the classic songs they turn them into eighty songs. Yeah this one is just it sounds you know. It's not as bad as you know if you could tell this from double platinum. It's not that much further off but it still doesn't sound us. Chris hit by the most egregious offenders. Next oh i don't even know what that is to listen to. I love it loud on this version and then listen to it on the creature night version. It's night and day to. I don't know why they would do this. It just fucking brutal. Because they don't wanna come across as a heavy hard rock band and the creatures of the night version of. I love it. Loud is not what they wanted to put out in nineteen eighty eight and they. They fucking ruined. They literally neutered this song. Everything that makes. I love it loud. Great and i know. I'm on record as saying that the drums might be a little bit overproduced in bombastic. But that's what makes that song. Would it is when you listen to this. It's like somebody pull the plug on the song and not to mention. There's no there's no you know in the original version fade out. Then it comes back. Yeah that's gone here. When it fades out the song ends yet. I think it starts earlier too. Yep yep yep it's just brutal. That's what this album the one thing famous about this album. How buy they destroyed. I love it loud. No yeah no doubt. Yep then we get to deuce now dues. It's for me. It's not as look. I can tell right away which version if it comes on my car on my which version it is because he just doesn't sound is clean. I gotta turn it up but overall the remix isn't as noticeable other than you could tell from the you know because this isn't a remastered version. This is just remixed. Yup i you know. It's a little bit longer on the altro so you give a little bit more of ace. That's the big thing. That i picked up on deuce can erase quayle away on that altro. it's just it's lower sounding. It's not as pronounced. It's muddy yup. Aachen drums saying yeah. It's been it's been muffled. There's no air in these songs. They just been muffled and muddied like you said they. You know more more of an eighties effects on this. It's it's not as agreed to some of the other songs of already talked about but like you said if it comes up on shuffle. You're like. Oh that's the smashes version of deuce yup and then You have lick it up. Which is the album version. So's heaven's on fire the those yet because they're eighty songs. Yeah you're right. Yeah and then you go into dr love. This is the third version. I like to think of because he to double platinum version and you have the rock and roll over version. This version doesn't make us better. No opinion okay know for me. The best version would be a combination. Look the one good part. I like about double platinum. Is that intro absolutely very ill. Yup but if you notice even on this version dr love on the album version rock and roll over. Dr love takes turns around. And then you hear the fucking you know the cow bell and stuff twice going around yup and then they get into the song on double platinum you have the build up and then he kind of goes right into the lyrics. Yes so this one. This version doesn't have the double platinum buildup but it has a little bit not the full amount of the of the beginning part before the lyrics of before the vocals come in a little more than double platinum does. But it's still it's just not as not even close to being as good. No i think. I think the the notes i took down here. I said i think the guitars have been neutered a little bit. I think it's It's just it's lost some of that power in crunch that that that i love about that that opening riff and call him. Dr love Again just you know kind of strip things down for the eighties. Unfortunately yeah i just wish they would keep that double platinum intro and oh the other part is on double platinum when they come back after the solo stuff. Yes there's no gene and just to ch- drums dr love. Oh yes that's right versus both the Smashes and the album version. Jeans steve's gone call komi yup now on the other version is just the ban during the poorest and i love that part on double planet so i wish you could take all that or and there's also no gene going at the end you know but i wish they would make one great version of the song is fucking kick ass. Yup agreed strider strollers this. It's you know it's got a little bit of the river with drums. It's not as you know it's not or seventy eight which i love yeah. This one isn't as bad as some of the other things. We've talked about You know again a little bit touching on the drums but nothing really sticks out too badly for me. It's got about twenty thirty seconds extra longer. Yeah yeah oh yeah. It's a little longer. Yup bath Blow and we chose the sir. Just your jaw saw charleston unknown. Look i love. Eric's voice i really do and i think he does a wonderful job with this. But like bruce said it was just tough. He's a can't win situation. There was nothing doing. This is almost the equivalent of like like as a horror movie fan that that people know i am. It's almost like when when rob zombie tried to like remake john carpenter's halloween. Why would you touch something so iconic when the only thing you can do is upset people or piss people off. It's it's it's going to be like. Oh i can't believe you did that. Because paul i think eric does a nice job but go ahead. I know what you're gonna say. Go ahead. I don't think you're going to pick this up though. Okay paul gets along with. Probably another extremely polarizing figure in rock. And that's sharon osborne and the two of them have the mentality like flock those guys. I'll just do the song but it just won't have him do it. I'll have oh yes. Oh yes those guys complain about their shit. I'll just record the songs and take their fucking portions off those album. Fuck you and this is him saying. Fuck you peter deal with you anymore. Eric's going to be now. People know eric on our british sits this eric. Is the voice. People know this song from. They're not playing version more. They'll play eric's version inherited in our concerts. That's why i think it went well and there are other. There are other stories. We already we already read about how bruce that eric was kind of quote unquote sick about it. Or whatever word to use a eric did the the reports the information shows. Eric did not wanna do this. He's like he didn't want to do this. The the ban was like note. We're recording this. You're in the band outdo it. Yeah and this is always one of those fucking cheating versions of the song where i can be like. No no erica. To vocals on kiss albums he technically does let me. I know what he's a retiree record but he does and again. I think he does a wonderful job. I i like the version of what we know. The original version. Bright bright agree so works. I'm with you and then they go to. Tears are falling. And i was made for loving you both regular versions So they end the last two songs. I one being rock and roll all night song number fourteen. What do you think this to me. When i i i remember. Then i know everybody talks about what they did with I love it loud but to me this has always been the most egregious offensive. Remix be kylie because my favorite version of rock and roll all night has always been the studio version. Undressed to kill they. Fuck this up so badly with the redone baseline on this song. It it's horrible. You can hear it's It's like nothing like what's on dressed to kill. I fucking hated. It annoys me. I can't listen to this version of the song. It's it's the it's the worst. As bad as i love it loud upsets people. This upsets me even more and another little nitpicky thing because we love being ocd. Why did they spell night. And i g. h. t. The song has always been an it. It's an it dressed to kill. It's an it on a live. It's always been an it. They spell it. T. on smashes thrashes. And that's that's another little. Ocd thing that's pissing me off with song. So they fucked this song over the place. Maybe another way to get rid of any royalties to ace and peter. Ono's perhaps perhaps they're not writers of the song. I don't know if it's publishing or something reason but ya the drums again and the drums. You could say the same thing with anything they remixed the drums or just fucked up. Yup and there's an extended fade at the end. You can kind of hear. The game vocals a little more. Yes yep let's finish up last. Track shout it out loud remix. What do you think air. It sounds a little bit different. You know it's been cleaned up It's got the the ending is a little bit different to this one. I don't mind if there's really nothing to the that stands out too badly as compared to like rock and roll night and i love it law which which of the two again it's just drums in. It's muddy and it's cloudy. I just can't hear it as clear and s because the version that they they haven't remastered this or anything like that and that whole thing at the end when they're like shout in the music ends. Yeah exactly yup. Yeah just a longer fade. It keeps going on a little bit longer. You're you're looking at about Let me think about maybe about fifteen twenty seconds more something like that. I guess you're talking probably ten ten years. I'm independent asia in the business. Yeah so overall. It sounds like there's really nothing that we came out better by them. Remixing oh god no no not at all and it's funny. You know as you get older you know we we got the podcast and you just become engrossed in the kiss nerd. Ary you know in this came out in eighty eight. While i lost great. I mean you probably like. Oh i love it loud. Sounds a little different. You know brooklyn late son's old. But i have this great compilation new songs. I was made for loving us on a compilation tears. A false is fantastic. Now we're older. Like what the fuck spock is. Is the number one album. Yeah and the thing that gets me on this stuff is. There's no need for most of this. I don't understand this. And this is the same thing with double platinum always bitching like well all these producers especially when we get the double platinum and sean was bitching about what fucking What's his name did. Azran did on destroyer. It's like i can't get the same song. Louder somersault wider. I can't get them on this greatest hits without the fucking volumes. Shit everything being off and so there was one that couldn't moved and that was destroyer so then he had a change everything to make him sound like the sound. They added destroyers sound and it just fucking changed everything all the way down. I don't understand how everybody else can do. Greatest albums and they can make it work but just a tool them the most popular ones and they can't make him fucking all work. Well i think. I think the problem is is that they thought that what they were doing with smashes thrashes and hits was the right thing to do they will reintroducing an eighties era to class today classic songs. They totally discredited. People like us in the diehards that grew up with dressed to kill and heart of the sorrow platinum to tom. Not as bad naughty did they still with their theory. That i again somebody. I want somebody to explain it to me. Like i'm fucking two ural. How come everybody else can do. Greatest hits and they can fuck and lab the tracks out great but kids can't because every producer data different sound and i can't put it on the greatest hits because it'll fuck it up and like jesus rice. It's not that hard. well know double platinum. I agree with you on that. We'll get to that when we cover that but smashes they purposely did all this. They won only did but saying. It's just stupid stupid and that's right at the time it was great. But in retrospect like said thirty thirty years later however many years later p this this does not hold up. It's not a goto al because it sounds like shit. It's just well. The track listing the track listing is fucking great. The track listing is as i have no complaints. The track listing. You got i was made for love. You gotta heaven's on fire tears a fallen off. You got all all the ad here telling me now if we're going to go through the track listing. Yeah you've got fifteen songs including only ones thirteen can go on this. What's missing okay. Okay so well. let's do that. 'cause we always do that we're talking about is nothing from hotter than hell. Yeah from a live to on mass. The elder yet. What would i take out of here. So i in crazy i love the song will. Yeah they through the crazy nights of the uk version which is weird. We'll get to that. I love the song. But i'm not sure that strut or needs to be on this and i love structure absolutely love star. I'm not sure that needs to be on this. We say this all time pretty much the only quote unquote bits of a heart of and l. are hotter than hell and let me go rock and roll. I mean we love parasite watching you. But they're not gonna put that on a compilation album You know all hell in love gun always suffer on compilation albums you know again. You got love gun title track. It's the only thing on here you know you got to you got to songs. Deuce instructor off the debut album. You got nothing from ottoman hell off addressed to kill you got rock and roll all night Off of off of destroyer. you got You could shout it out loud and detroit rock city off of rock and roll over you call you. Call calling dr love. I'm sorry best yet. You got bit will re recorded Of rock and roll. We'll be calling doctor love of love gun. You got loved on dynasty you got. I was made for loving. Then you said you got nothing off. Unmasks nothing off the elder you got. I love it loud of creatures. You got lick it up. Heaven's on fire. You got tears a fallen. So i mean they represented you know they did a good job representing get once again. Destroyer always wins out. You get three songs off destroyer. Who knows who knows if that's really necessary. But i think at the time i still agree that on paper. I think it's a really good collection for when it came out. There's no black diamond that's again. This is our fifth compilation. None of them have black. Diamond and black diamond may be one of the most played songs ever by kissing concert. Yep the thing that i'm thinking is. Do you wanna put crazy nights while you just released that as an album previously. That's why i think. Do you want to go like kind of new. Because you've got look. You're doing a up to this moment of kiss. You have to have heaven's on fire you have to lick it up and you have to have. I love it loud. First of all they're shown to the new type of kiss fan. They're not talking about putting them back on their playing without the makeup. You gotta put those in there now have rock'n'roll night you've gotta have detroit rock city and you gotta have loved on the deuce. They're still kind of playing at this time. Dr love is kind of popular. I don't know i was made for. Loving was technically yet. Yes shouted out loud is an anthem. So maybe black time but maybe a best song of theirs. But it's not really yet. No no structure always finds a way to sneak in that again. I'm not complaining. Because i love structure strut always finds a way to sneak itself into these compilations which is good. But that's i don't know. Yeah because it's kind of a mid temple song. Yeah i i just. Don't see people clamoring for straddling schroeder will except for that except for the guy wanted to beat up murph. Yeah that guy That that kind of weighs on me. You're not gonna put anything from the solos in this era of kissed up any solos on. No they're definitely not put any unmask songs on at this point. They're not putting anything from the elder as well although world without heroes. That's what was had a video. It was a was a very new even know the elder existed and i was to kiss. Okay gives you couldn't even find it. Okay but the only other things i can think of would be like hotter than hell and that's not bigger than those other songs listed right. These are the big song. If you're going by thirteen tracks. I think they probably hit it. You might have a little. Bit of a beef with stutter. You could put maybe hard luck. Woman was a bigger charting. Hit the top forty song. Maybe they're not putting anything from peter on air fox and you put shock me. You could've put they're not putting any age shit up here. Nope the only representation by them as a song that they redid right so i think they probably this is about is almost as accurate as you can get for when it for when it came out. I think i agree. Yep and you're right. They're not going to put anything. Crazy eights resigned just came out and there's an excuse not to because you can say they just came out yep but for me. I would think that this is pretty good. Only really one that you might have an issue with this you could say structure but really what's bigger than starter. That's not on here. We like black diamond better but is it a bigger hit. I mean maybe you maybe you could like you say to hotter than hell maybe firehouse if you wanted to put something else from the debut album. God of thunder. Oh thank you. God defend but they're not gonna go four songs off a destroyer right right. It is fucking huge song for them. Yup and if they're not you can't talk Shock me. Because then i'll put it up here right so i think this is pretty good at. It is accurate until it's great. It's great until you put the cd and listen to it. It looks great. It's doesn't sound good then on the other side. you got the united kingdom version. Were they take out do stupid. How do you fucking strutting takeout dupes. Magic that's ridiculous you're like oh you're in the uk and get a new compilation like oh look at this weight. I given me reason to live. But you an deuce oats. Yeah that's fucking week. That's why crazy nights and regional live. That's why crazy nights is a big hit england. We always talk about that. Yup it's a fucking big charts. That's why when they go to england to play. They always throw this back into the set list. Yeah absolutely i mean to me. I liked your choices. We obviously have issues with the way this record sounded but we liked the choices overall. Yup agreed so what we do next time. Is we rank this against previous compilations. I will do album covers and previously. We ranked greatest kiss very best of kiss the millennium collection and kiss world. Tom your order. I do and just to clarify for new listeners out there. We did the millennium collection volume one because his three volumes so just to clarify so. Yeah so my album cover rankings. Are right now. I have the very best of kiss at number one. Millennium collection number two greatest. His greatest kissed three and kiss world. Four i am going to put smashes thrashes and hits as low as it can possibly go in my rankings brutal while house last yup. I love bruce. I love eric. But this coverage bad got you. I'll for me tom. I have millennium collection. Very best of kiss kiss world in grace guests in that order right. I'm like you. I'm gonna put this dead last. Yeah it's fucking brutal yup young need for it to be this bad dude at the point in your career. This is what you put. Come up with should have been some should have been some kind of collage of some kind of or something. Yeah something it's fucking week I don't know. I mean how bad is gene out of the picture. When he's y'all let's go with this. This works so let's go to the next part. Now we're gonna actually rank the rank the compilation it said. Okay your rankings. I do so right now. I have greatest kiss ranked number one. Then i have very best of kiss kiss world in the millennium collection ranked fourth. So we've spent a lot of time bashing in smashing in thrashing us album But it does have those two original songs which we love You know let's put the ex sex may be a little bit more than rock-hard it's got a great track listing although the remixer terrible but those two new songs carry this a little bit further than it normally would so. I am going to put this fourth. And i'm going to drop the millennium collection last. I liked millennium collection But it's just a bunch of classics from the first couple of albums. Not that that makes it bad. But smashes and thrashes those two original tracks going to give it a little bit more. But i can't put any higher just because the remix are horrible. Don't tom for me. I have very best of kiss kiss. World greatest gifts millennium millennium collection. I'm putting this at number one. Whoa i love fuck into songs. The two new songs. The versions are not the versions. Aren't as good. We know that. Wow what's the selection on it. The song selection on it is top notch. Okay can't complain about it okay. These aren't the best versions of it. But if you handed this off to somebody. It didn't hear the other versions. They would like this okay and they would off fucking these songs rock. Plus you get the two new songs which i fucking love you know. It's all relative. Because i you know i have all these songs. I'm not listening to fucking greatest hits collection ever taking the cd out and putting one over the other. They're all on shuffle on my phone that one for me. I would pick this first over everything despite what they butchered some of the songs in despite the fucking horrendous album cover yes you're you're being a little bit kinder to them. I can't i can't get let them off that easy and some of these remixes i just can't can't do it but i said on laundry on paper on paper. The track listing is great. And those two songs but fourth is about as good as it's gonna get from me. But i'm not gonna fault if a number one not gonna fault you. It's a great collection. This to me almost was like an album review. Yeah no there was relation. Smashes thrashes almost feels like that special album platinum kill. I agree i agree more than just greatest cats part yet not gonna eat yum. No well said yeah. Those are always fun. Tom can't wait to hear your feedback. And if you guys have something to say about a specific song that you feel something is a little more noticeable that we didn't mention much. Let us know discussion about it. Definitely i think the doctor love one The guitar so long. This is different because of this that. Tell us about it. We'd love to hear it so the feed back coming definitely we. We expect some good feedback on this a lot of people passionate about this album. It's got a lot of nostalgia value for people. People love the new tracks. People hate the new tracks. People are going to have different opinions on the remix is so you know we want you guys to get involved in Talk about this because this is a big one. Yup so tom we're going on to this next. Hi this is at spanneberg. Click teashop dot com and for all your shouted out loud cast gear and merchandise. Please visit click. Teashop dot com click. Teashop you can find. Lots of kiss. Inspired t shirt designs plus mobs hats hoodies pillows and all new fine arts selections and now. Here's your question of the week. All right so. Our question of the week comes from our good friend from the boston area. moving on to six six zero eight fifty and he says this is. This is a good question. I mean this could. This is one of those questions could actually being episode. He says we know. Paul and jean kept the band going after. Ace and peter left. However do you think kiss would have initially become the phenomenon that they were without ason peter meaning if it was just two other guys. The space man in a catman do think the personalities of peter and ace contributed to the band. I think they could have been just as big. Yeah or they could fucking failed. I don't think one way. Or the other i i i guess i'm saying i don't think they're that integral as jean. Paul i could tell you of ace and peter did this. The opposite would happen. I would say it wouldn't gone fucking anywhere. See that now i'm gonna. I'm gonna sound like a member of the ace cult here. I think a huge impact on the band. I think his i think his stage presence in his guitar playing abilities especially his solos but more so his live concert stage presence in persona. I think did a huge thing for the band. I love peter The cadman. I love him but i think he's had a huge effect now. 'cause they have gotten another lead guitarist. Who could have done that as the spaceman may be. Probably but i think ace just has a very unique personality which is why there is an ace cult But peter i. I love peterson. I don't wanna saving shitty about him but i. I'm not sure that he had that. That same kind of impact. But i think east did and i think it shows now in two thousand twenty one. How much people still adore ace. But you're right. I mean it's still pollens band when you say a stage presence was he doing. I just think. I just think he's the the way the way that he would just kind of walk around on stage. Kinda look sloppy in kind of do his tricks with a smoking guitar in his solos and his just just the way he was i just think he had. He had a unique way about him. Might not have been bombastic and in in crazy. But i think he just had a way about him on stage when he played people that drew people to him so for me. I don't maybe you think his solos renewed he added in his solos are great. I say that. I do think he's a fucking very good guitar player. But i don't think ter- stuff that nobody else could do. No no no. I didn't say that. I'm just saying i'm up and words in your mouth. Yeah oklahoma for milk. Okay saying for me. I don't think he's he did anything that another great guitarist couldn't have done Do i think if bob to liquid kiss at the time they could have been just bake. I do probably shoot me. No no not be as popular or things like that probably not. He doesn't have the aces personality. But i also don't think ace was some i just go by my own self. I remembered kiss when i was remembering remember the guitar guy. I remember the fucking front guy. And i remember jean correct. Kiss was always to me a band. That guitarist isn't it. That's what's noticeable about them because they guitarist isn't the focal point of the ban h. Was the third guy to get. The lights shone on him. You're right a. I like you know what i mean. It's not abandoned. you would see advantage. He's not eddie van halen up there and he's not fucking angus so it's not for me to say like oh yeah you angus. Acdc they would never made it without. Even malcolm does fuck you know half of the grunt were on the guitar and the rich and the chords and the writing and all that stuff. Yeah i can still say yeah. They probably wouldn't have made it without anger. Of course but i don't know about as he's not the same in. After a couple of the great songs he did in the beginning by mid seventies. He's not contributing to the songwriting. Like you was in the beginning with cole ryan and parasite and things. Yup i agree Could they have now but they could easily maybe again. You don't know because you're not there with the song. Sounds like without him coming and go all right. I'm gonna do this part. And then that ends up in the part you like How much of the ship was finished. And that paul says as ace play over this. And you're like. Oh wow. This is unique. This really made me why. I like the song or it's like yeah. Anybody else could have done that. I don't know i'm not are on a musician. I just feel like without paul gene. Nothing's happening with i. I'm not sure. I'm referring more to ace onstage in the concert experienced. I'm not talking about anything. He did in the studio recordings. Songwriting saying i'm just talking about his presence on stage. I understand what you're saying. Could anybody else in that makeup done what he did. Yes in in. It's the history. It's it's when you look back and you think back to the future like you don't know all we know is what happened so there's no way to know but you don't think sean or bill would say to fuck in again. I'm using bob as an excuse. 'cause we all know this bob. You need to do this. You're the guitar player. So what's bob's gimmick. You absolutely could be. Don't think they would have given him some or maybe a better drummer may say. This is your gimmick instead of the catman. You're going to be. This can do this whereas peter wouldn't even give him that. 'cause maybe couldn't do that i don't know i again. It's not the shit on a for me. I know the two guys if they're not there. They're not as big the other two offshore. I agree i agree. I just think. I think out of those two. I think ace had a little bit with you. That a impact and peter i would say But then again. Now that i think about it for me i go by the vocals too. That's also good point two. Yeah yeah. Peter saying impeded me not have written it like people get some shit but peter brought that song in. That became their biggest hit. And bro- broken. peter also say bat black. I'm also say nothing to lose. I love you also had another top forty eight for them. Hard luck woman. So it's hard to save. Maybe if they had some other guy that sounded like shit singing worked. Right i know. Would eric car been able to make a hit back then. Probably probably but would he brought it in right now. I'm in as good as it is now with peter. The great question great question again. We could've kept talking about this all night. A great cut. We love those whatever those historical. What if so thank you. Are boston friend great question. We appreciate it very much. Thank you thank you. Yep yep tom what we usually do next. Tell people where they can find us. Yes so start with our email. Shout out loud cast at gmail.com shouted out loud cast gmail.com. 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The Legend of Raja Rasalu- Part II

Myths, Legends, and Fairytales of India

27:34 min | 2 years ago

The Legend of Raja Rasalu- Part II

"The legend of Roger ASU bought do. Welcome to the myths legends and fairy tales of India where he bring to you stories of kings and queens off Princess fairy. And of crafty, wizards and magical be these are classic tales of adventure. Magic and drama. Brought to you in a new of Dodd by God horror story. Oh on the photo wide over the problem. He was faced with then he just of cricket. I'm joined the head from his pocket, thrust it into the file and immediately. There was a warring noise in the air and coup age flight of crickets alighted, the scientists amongst thin. Cricket was life. He has saved rissole said separates, the millet seed from the such. Reply. Cricket. Schol of need to do. Wouldn't that the flying of crickets sent to work and in no time, they separated the seed from the sent timed the little insects soon. They were own than we back. The young prince went to sleep thinking about the young maiden in the morning win the sixty nine fair meets the dodgers of kings suck up so much Rison who had performed his stuff successfully they sent him a novel. The each sat on a sweep and all steam to swing them all one by one onto the were tired whereupon. Russell laughed saying there are seventy of you. Counting my little bride Janda, and I'm not going to spend my life swinging goals. No. If you want a swing get it all seventy view into one swing and then I'll see what can be done. So the seventeen maidens climbed into one swing and Raja standing in his shining almo-, fossils, the rubes to his mighty bull. And drew it up to list bent. Then he let go and liking all the swing shot into the air with its burden of seventy fair maidens, many and careless full of smiles and lofta, but as it swung back. Ken. Russell standing there in his shining all through his shop sword and several roads. Then the seventy fair maidens fell to the ground headlong some will bruised and some groups, but the only one who is gaped on hold was the Meden who loved the sun, she fell out lots on the top of the kids. And so she came to know home after this this on strode onto a dependence. Did he came to a geat which had seventy drums every one who came to play chopper with the king have to beat them into the beat them so loudly that he broke them on. Then he came to seventy goals all in vote, and he had more than so hard that the cracked two pieces seeing this the youngest Princess Barlow who was the only one who could run fled to her father king in a great front. She told her father a mighty prince, oh king circa. He need this havoc any rights towards you. He swung us seventeen maidens fair. Oh headlong. He broke the drums. You please say the goal to win his fried. Sure. He will kill you on your father. Before his bright. But king replied sitting maiden your words make a lot of metal so small he field of mine Valla, he's clatter as soon as I've eaten my bridge. Go ahead. Cut off this. He was in reality Feddie much afraid having heard of resolves Rena Rosado had decided to stay at the house of an old woman and rest for awhile to the all for playing Chopard arrived when Sarka loans of this. He sends slaves to him with trays of sweetmeats and throught as twin owner guessed. But the food was poisoned and Sada was certain that his opponent would die in no time now win sleeves. Brought the trees to the he rose a hot in the same go tell you Mazda. I have nothing to do with him in friendship. I am his sworn enemy, and I feel to eat. So say he who the sweetmeats in the long adjacent to the old woman's. Seeing the food several books huge and began to Nivola. We. In no time. They all lead did. Lasala was fanny entity. He said Bitoni go back to suck up slaves. Ted him ultra song who says that it is no act of bravery to kin even enemy by treachery. Nah. When he Ning king Jaya oversaw went Ford to play chopper with Kim suck as he falls some orders. Kipnes he saw account one bring about restlessly. He also Catt ill. Then why she never stood stew. She applied. Kim has just seen set the lines. He might be. Moves the heart of Roger Sodom and going to the border. He asked him to sell the kid Buxton fought-over blind that he could not settle a fan price to them bolts Lobont as he could not to how many would come out whole finally after some bargaining. He consented at last to sell the Kim Rosado having such all the boss is stored. The kittens to mother the cat in gratitude for his mercy gave him one of the kittens saying. Footage will be a when you are in difficulties. So Roger son do put the kitten in his pocket and went to play chopper with Kim. Now before they sat down to are just a fixed. His stakes on the first game. His kingdom on the second from his treasury and on the boat. He's own head. So likewise dodge Assad, Lou fixed stakes on the first day his arms on the second his horse and on the thought his own head. Then they began to plea just saw who had to make the first move. But he had forgotten the dead man's warning. Now, do you remember the talking goal from the graveyard key? Gums bravo. He had one wrestle when Austin to do something. Do you? Remember what it was? Okay. I let to recall ward, he had all the young prince. In the meantime, let's move on with the stop, okay? This played with the dice given to him by Georgia suck up as he was rolling. The dice suck up. Let loose his famous Rach Boone lodge to run runabout. The board the rat upset the basis of trouble. But he did it. So cleverly son did not realize that the pieces had been moved. The young rinse lost the first heat and have to give up this shining. All. Then the second game again and once more don't judge. Upset the basis, but Assad who knows in the team have to give up his faithful Steed, then Parnell the Adam Steed who stood by phone voice and crying to his Mazda c. Bard with much old. Things cross me now as you did before shells. You wish carry you far from these lines flied will be sift as. Thousands and thousands of miles. Stay on the next game. You play. Please hand in your pocket. I pray. He Odin this just circle found in Austin sleeves to remove Hanell the Arab Steed since he gave his Mostert advice in now when the same scheme to lead the faithful Steed away rissole could not refrain from deals thinking over the long years during which the Adam Steed had been friend and companion since book, but the horse cried out again, we not the prince I should not eat my bread, all stranger hands, not strange stall, shall I e mate. Day, he'll right-hand in place. It is safe. The horses. Woods. Roused firm recollection Indra cels find he put his hand in his pocket, and I touch the kitchen who was by now struggling to get out of the bucket next. He fat the dice made from deadman's booze. Assad who remember all about the warning then his spits Vos up once more and he called boldly to Roger circa Lee mine, host known scale for the present time off to take them away. When you have one my Ed no largest up seeing resolve lose confident bedding began to Trimble in feel. He ordered all the Vivian off his ballots to come forth in the most beautiful attire stand before for some. So as to distract his attention from the gay, but he never even looked at them. Instead, he drew the dice from his pocket and said we have played with your dice all this time. Now, we were played with mine by then. The kitchen had managed to climb out offer son spoke she went and sat at the window. This was those same window through which the that dole. Roger used to the game began again saga. So seeing Raja decide was sitting called to his rat. But when Roger saw the kitten he was afraid and would not offer sodas on one and Duke his Halse next. He believed for his arms once more Raja kgab golfers rat, but told Roger seeing the kitten keeping watch did not much sooner the sun won the second game. Also and do back is arms. Then sudd- brought all skewed bed on the third. And last saying do ace. Beloved pieces fable may today for small this is a man with all my way, no poultry, this thing called life and debt is at stake. Does so do for suck up sake? But Assad one. Oh, molded pieces. Famer Megyn day for move is a man with whom I leave no poultry Rhys, but life and death at stake heaven does so do for heaven's sake. So they begun to why the Vinson stood around images, circle and the kitten watched dole Raja from the window. Then circled lost. I this kingdom. Then the world of the strategy. And in the final game he was about to news his head. Just in seventh came into announce the book of a daughter to Roger and he overcome by misfortunes said get hurt at once. She has been born in evil moment and as brought her father, ill luck. Follow rose up in his shining almo- pin the halted and strong thing. Not so king. She has done. No evil. Give me this CHAI if you will wall, all you. Hold sacred. Never again to play chopper for another man's head. I pay yours now. Then circa vowed a solemn vow never to play for another's. Head. He took the branch of a mango tree and the new one b. He pleased them on a golden dish gave them to some now as he left the palace carrying with him, the new one bead and the mango branch he met a band of prisoners. They called out to him. Royal hockey on. Okay. Devos as simple. Vying foul. Does request. When these chains live happily to your life, wrist. Lou hood, then and made king suck up set them free. Then he went to the hills, and please the new one girl cookie in an underground palace and plundered the mango branch at the door. He told the maids and the notices in twelve years, the mango tree will blossom then will I return and own wind rissole with his adventures, which I shall describe next. The follow makes friends who end up abandoning him. Roger Asala went on his journey, and he traveled for several days along his way, he made two friends a carpenter an-and Goldsmith, they travelled together onto one night. They came to lonely forest. It was a. Doc, and a desolate place and rissole who decided it was better to stay away and set a watch. So he divided the time in two three watches the three friends decided to take tons in. Keeping a watch the carpenter to the first the goals. Myth the second and solid the talk the Goldsmith collected. Some hey together and spread it on a flat batch of land. He'd been off the young prince to sleep on this mattress off clean graph. He was afraid that Princess heart would think at the change from his former luxuriance life. So he said these words of encouragement cushion than fill. You may have known, but grass is your couch tonight, yet, grieve, not all prints. If fortune has frowns bravehearts he'd not hall and see new towns now win Raja and the Goldsmith son slipped was sneaking out of picket nearby and crept towards the sleepers. Why are you the carpenters lad? And why do you come here? I had this Shoygu all seen within twelve mine the plight, the serpent who are you? To come here in the sneak attacks the cop, and they fought until the snake was killed in the cop hit the dead body under his shield and said nothing of the adventure to his comrades. He thought it was better not too alarming for like the Goldsmith. He taught prince might be discouraged. Now when it came to Roger loose stone to keep watch a dreadful demon came out of the picket, nevertheless, the solid went up to it. More and cried aloud. What rings it here? Then the awful demon replied, I have canned everything thrice my. My. I you. Come here. We had a bomb. Drew? His mighty bull and peels the demon with an atom it's led into a cave where the prince followed it, and they fought long and fearfully let last the demon died and we saw returns to watch in peace now when morning group. Roger rissole called his sleeping servants and the carpenter shooed with pride the body of the soap, and he had killed this butter small snake said Raja common. See Tari killed in the cave. And behold when the goal is Smith led and the carpenter latte, solely all food dreadful demon that Roger who had lead they were exceedingly afraid. Fell on their knees. Bed to be allowed to return to the city say, oh, my view saw who you are Jonah hill. You can fight such horrors. We all talk to refocus. He follow. You reshow surely weakened sorts things are nothing to you are debt to us. Let us go, please. Then rissole looked at them sort of lean and big them do as the wished and said. Barbs linger long before they flower graciously too soon as over matter of the past you them straying with us. But for an hour all good things in life must end in death of love. But a king remains looking without the consent of the colts ios rulers rule. The non made their camman. And I shall go on making this Jilani by. Alone and houses in a stranger land. So his friend said their goodbyes rissole journeyed on alone. He met with a few more ventures to complete one of which we shall learn about. Now how Roger rissole killed the Chines off to or time. Roger Lou arrived at Neela city or the blue city as he entered the town. He saw an old woman making Rudy's, and as she made it she sometimes wept and sometimes law soldiers follow hostile why she wept and laughed, but she on foot, sadly has she needed hook eeks. Why do you ask? What will you gain by it name? Replied, if you tell me the two one of us must benefit by it. And when the old woman looked in the solids fees. She saw that it was kind. So she opened her heart to him saying with tears, oh stranger. I had Sandon fair some him. Now, I have but one left for six of them have been his by dreadful giant who comes day to this the to receive to build from us if the young man a buffalo, the boss kit of ruthies sakes of my sons of gone away in non today. He once more fallen to mind lot to provide the tribute, my boy, mind, dumbing my. My youngest must meet the fate of this propolis. This week. Rasala was petty and said crime, not foolish model. You can see that your son lives. I feel are nor death nor life. I seek fortune everywhere in strife my head his idea. So sees these deals in harm, y'all. Fuse, Stu the all woman shook her head to hopefully, see. Fan will they will. But will really risk his life for non. What happens next listen to three the concluding part of the story to learn more. Thank you. For listening today story. We would love to hear your feedback. You can write to us at contact at Gotha story dot com. Would you like to read alone? Today's story we have a brand new website just for this. Visit midst and legends India dot com. From where you can listen to your favorite stories and read along as you listen this story was originally published by Jews of Jacobs in his book Indian fairy teeth it has been edited and v written by a Maria for brevity context and simplicity of language. This notation is produced by gotta story for the midst legends and fairytales of India and is noted by shit. Ali vigil. Mixing your smooth us. Right now, the old in with the belief. Credibly fast, reliable, internet tours. Old and in with a simple easy. Awesome. Click call or it's Richard not available areas.

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052. The Avengers (1998)

SpyHards Podcast

1:43:17 hr | 2 months ago

052. The Avengers (1998)

"Hello and welcome to spy hans podcast where your hosts go deep undercover into the world of spy movies to decipher. Which films make the noc list but remember this. Information is strictly for your is only. I'm agent scott. And i'm cam the provocateur and scott rain or shine all is mine. Here we go. we're doing it. we're doing it right. Well okay we. We may have spoiled the film. If you've read the title of the episode or or got that reference but before we get into it. I wanted to ourselves on the back. A little bit really Yes indeed we are more than worthy of praise at this point. yes indeed. This marks are fifty second film that we're covering and thus a complete year we have been doing this for exactly a year and we are celebrating with this phil. That's right we don't like to do anything. Conventional on spy hearts. I think a lot of people would celebrate their one year anniversary with like. I don't know a really flashy bond film mission impossible something that people care about but we stead are choosing a movie. That i think is well. I shouldn't say the people care out or don't care about because i think we're gonna talk about. Today is one that a lot of people are still obsessed with and continually like to pick over. So i think it's something that our listeners are going to enjoy hearing talk about. But it's not it's not the the victory lap that maybe people might have expected as a one year anniversary. I think it would again as you say to easy to go in. And do you know the mission of all sports or something like that way like talking about the film's to troubled Yeah i say what better film than this year. One of our goto avenues for podcasting which we did not plan. When this whole thing started it was a complete accident. We kind of fell into was we started talking to a lot of writers and a lot of directors who had worked on films and a lot of people we would get on the show head made movies that much. Say they didn't make the noc list and that actually became to me a lot more interesting sometimes than the movies. I actually enjoyed because it allowed me kind of access into how this movie wound up like did and a lot of cases it was elements outside of the control the creators in the first place. And i think the one this week. That's very much aspect of this film. That pretty legendary that there was a lot of forces working against it so i think sometimes these movies are more interesting to talk about. Yeah i could sit here for two hours talking about the license to kill you know. Ted's about how good is. But i want to dig deep into the richness. Is this film and part of the celebration this week. We should also announced so we actually have two interviews lined up for you to separate additional episodes so as a whole week of coverage the also falls on the twenty third anniversary of this film's release so we've actually timed it right for once Yes we have So this is an extravaganza of a one year anniversary. Don't count on this for the second anniversary. No i think we're out of ideas already at this point. You're not gonna get multiple behind the scenes interviews with the creators of the boss. Baby franchise alec baldwin's around giving this shout mind but we don't want to talk to about hunt for red october. We'll only the boss baby questions and mission impossible arena. Just boss baby both baby well. I think we're circling target camp. So i think it's time we all trilby hat sewn and talk about the film that we're covering this week Yes we are talking about. Nineteen ninety eight the avengers the adaptation of the nineteen sixties british spy adventure series starring. Patrick mcneill diana rigg honor blackman. There's a lot of actors who popped up on the show but Mackney patrick me was. The actor carried it from beginning to end. And it's a very popular. I think cult show in north america. But i'm curious. Scott over there is it. More of an institution is kind of hard for me to answer that question because i fall into probably the wrong category of people. I'm a bit too young to have been around for. Its original run or for it to been put in what we would call syndication a rerun in seventy seventies right. So i you hear my parents talking about it or grandparents. Particularly it's it's that generational gap unfortunately the for me. I never watched it. I saw bits on television. I kind of knew the look of the avengers. And which i suppose leads me on to solve my stories stories with the film itself because i distinctly remember the trailer for this film dropping I remember it was attached to. I'm sure we could go back and look but arm overseeing the try the seeing the vengeance and getting it like i knew the brand it tapped into something that i was aware of through osmosis and you know seems oh there wasn't really means in the nineteenth but you you get what i mean And the trailer was terrific. By the way yeah. I remember the trailer as well. I was super excited to see for me. I didn't know what the avengers was like. I remember a lot of the coverage around this movie. You know jeremiah. Check who directed it was giving interviews to sin escape magazine which i read at the time and a lot of the interviews. Were explaining what the avengers was to the north american audience. Because i mean for me it meant nothing i think i may have seen. There's kind of that iconic shot of appeal coming out of the telephone box. I may have seen that shot at some point my life but beyond that i really knew nothing but i remember seeing the trailer and i didn't really care that much about refines our thurman in the trailer but what really grabbed me with sean connery as the villain You had that bit risking the whole monologue. You know they'll die they'll burn. And what have you and there was some. You know special effects shots going on with the explosion of the big ben in that had me because this falls right in that air nineteen ninety eight. We're between basically the first two brosnan bond films. And the latter to broaden bond films. So i'm right in kind of core james bond territory going to the movies to actually see bond for the first time in my life so this looked kind of along the same lines and i was really excited for it. It felt like a summer blockbuster had that feel that sort of momentum going into it. I don't know release stuff. That's more your area. But like i feel like it's in the same area. Things like independence day. Yeah what's funny too is like okay. So independence day was released right for the fourth of july weekend that became will smith's big time open movies men in black same thing wild wild west as well avengers opened in august now nowadays when a movie opens in august. It's fine you know guardians of the galaxy. The first one opened in august. We've kind of lost the whole concept of having kind of bad release windows mover release movies in september. Now you know shanxi. September release in the old days. That would have been a red flag. This movie's a disaster. Don't go see it like it's clearly being put out this month because the studio has no confidence and that was the case in ninety eight the fact that this was an august release and i remember. They didn't screen for critics. But i didn't care. I was seventeen so it was like. Oh they're not screening at okay well in my head you know mortal kombat opened in august and that's the greatest movie of all time. So what do i care. You know. That was kind of my situation i was. I was eleven. i wasn't screened. I couldn't give a monkey's. I just saw a really cool trailer and i remember off family going to this in the multi feeling like in a bit of an event and then i think this is one of my first experiences of a bad film I've walking out and actually genuinely going I don't know why i didn't like it. I i don't think i could really express eleven widened. Didn't like it. But i didn't remember here going. It was terrible guy. Yeah it really was. And maybe i that before i went in. I don't think we went on the opening weekend. Maybe we influenced by people around us. But i remember no enjoying and we'll hand being confused a why sold from the trailer to the film but and then scrubbed if my memory. Yeah i mean. I was pretty similar. I went with a friend. I think we probably went opening weekend. Because as i recall my friend who i went with was also very excited based on the trailers also. He had no familiar with the show. Either so it was just entirely good marketing. I suppose in terms of a trailer and some of the images they were putting out you know. The movie wasn't a real financial success. And we'll get that a minute but that marketing obviously worked at least on a certain demographic because we did show up. And i remember feeling baffled throughout the movie and that i felt very ill-prepared for what the tone of the movie was and again seventeen at the time so i don't know that i'm really i'm probably over intellectual icing the experience versus what it actually was at the time but it was very much a visceral. Like i don't like this. Like i don't like a lot of what this movie's doing and i don't really understand it. It felt weird. You know just the year before. Batman and robin remote and i'd watched that movie and had similar reactions as well as actually a batman forever. Where it's like. I don't like a lot of what this movie's doing. It's weird and it doesn't it just doesn't jibe with what i experienced what i want from this movie. And that was the case with the avengers. Then you toss on the fact. This thing was like barely stretched to ninety minutes. It felt very kind of you know cut together over basically in the blink of an eye and kind of walk out the afterwards you know in the theater. Lobbyists being like what the hell was that. That was kind of my experience and i. It was an era where i was seeing those bond movies. They're over two hours. They felt granted ventures and this felt like Like what what did i just briefly witness. I don't want to dig to defend to at this point but yeah i just remember walking out and just not getting it and as an eleven year old. If you don't like it you will be very vocal about it. And i must have just checked out some point because i i remember. Did this point. I mean my whole family. No enjoying it and working out and saw shrugging it the whole experience and that was probably my first experience of a bad phil i think mine was. Maybe the sequel the home alone. I think that was my first one. We'll get that on the on the record here. I think so. Yeah homered to better film. No it's not it's awful. It's just a complete carbon copy of the first one. It's men in black two of home alone movies. I think we might have to go to bat for this day. I i've just let something about you. I do not like. I think i think i think i'll just drink tea and calm down. Well i want to know some more about the background of the film. And we moved so announced about interviews as well which will do in the second. But i did want to read the litterbox dot com synopsis The avengers some assembly required when an unexpected enemy emerges in threatens global safety insecurity nick fury director of the international peacekeeping agency known a shield. Oh sorry i'm wrong. Avengers the avengers. Saving the world in style british military agent. John steed under direction from mother investigates a diabolical plot by arch villain so august dewinter to rule the world with his a weather control machine. Steed investigates the beautiful. Dr mrs emma peel the only suspect and simaltaneously full for her and joins forces with her to combat. Sir august. I mean. Would you say dr misses. I don't think he would. I'm not really sure the ordering maybe would. I don't know perhaps that is proper. I don't really know. I never really thought about it. I was so it was. Usa doctor and if they don't mind you will say mr or mrs. yeah maybe. I don't mind the clarification. The movies a little confused in that regard so. I don't mind some extra clarification doctors listening. Let us know. Yeah i yeah. I guess that was fine. Probably went on the the cutoff a halfway through and just when it when it introduces. Mvp he just goes on a bit too much. Yeah i mean it's trying to sum up a movie that let's just say narrative is not. It's friend yeah. I suppose you call make sense of senselessness Okay camps. i suppose let's talk about interviews that we've got Yeah so the release schedule this week is. Today is tuesday. The episode came out in two days time. Which would be thursday. We're doing an interview with the director. This phil jeremiah chechik. I know we're following up on. Saturday would interview with the writer of this film. Don mcpherson so usually we would have this whole section where we give everyone's information on the background of the film but we cover a ton of that in those into me. So do you have like a cut down version. We can go through and some other bits and bobs. I was just going to give kind of an overview of the talent behind the movie. But i will say this like these two interviews. We've done with the right around the director. They aren't repetitive. Like those who tuning are gonna get very different angles on how this movie wound up as it is onscreen as you watch it now With the jeremiah chechik. You're gonna get a lot of discussion in terms of kind of the studio politics that were going on the actual production stories about working with sean connery that sort of element whereas don mcpherson. He's going to break down. What the story of this film was supposed to be what the original script was. What the intent was some of those crazy scenes. You have a lot of question marks about watching this movie. He's gonna explain exactly why they are. They are and how they would have made sense in original iterations of this film. And he's gonna take you through the process of the evolution or d of evolution of the story of the avengers and how it wound up as this kind of confused. Nineteen ninety eight blockbuster so tune in for those the really really fascinating and again taking very different angles on the entire production of the avengers. Yeah i'm i'm super through that. We got both those interviews. They were fantastic to speak about very generous with time especially for films that both of us maybe no sour about but i didn't have great experiences. Doing yeah and i think those of you listening who fans of the one thousand nine hundred sixty s show or really gonna wanna tune in for the don mcpherson interview. Because he's actually gonna talk a lot about some of the lore of the franchise and what he was hoping to bring to it and just the original story concepts were very much angled around the peel family and what he wanted to do there and none of that's in the movie that we watched to review this week so i think avengers fans out. There will get a lot out of that interview. Yeah i great. So what do you have force can okay. So basically this was a warner brothers. Production and this was era where adapting. Tv shows was all the rage. We've been through it a few times. We've done charlie's angels. But this is the era where they're doing. Not just like the big stuff like brady bunch. But we're also getting like Beverly hillbillies zor car fifty four. Where are you. It was like if you had a tv show property you. We're gonna adapt that to the big screen and the avengers. I think made sense as a bit of a blockbuster franchise now. It was not intended to be a blockbuster franchise in the eyes of those that made it. It was seen as more of a you know mid budget maybe fall opener tight moving. Something would open in like november october and be more of like a fifty fifty million dollar forty million dollar adventure film. That's not what wound up happening. And that's kind of where the movie ran into some problems but it had a budget of sixty million so it was a respectable size. Although not like comparable to some of the other blockbusters of that same summer like roland emmerick godzilla for example. The director jeremiah check. He was a guy who had had a really interesting career trajectory which he breaks down in the interview. We do with him but he would come from the world of artistic and commercial photography sort of worked his way into commercial directing as well as music video directing and then he got into motion pictures and he did a few movies. And i'm just going to out the three movies. He did that lead into this one. I'm curious scott if you have any thoughts on any of them. So he started off with national impugns christmas vacation. He also did. Benny in june and tall tale I'm just curious of any of those. Have you seen any of them. The only one. I was familiar with Go into the interview and today's episode is national imprinted christmas vacation which is a a favor in in my household christmas phil. I didn't say the direction jumped out at me particularly but it's it's a really funny film and it was something that mrs played. Mouths a kid. Yeah i so memories kind of like. It was just all in the house around christmas but not home alone. Two that was on more in my house. It's on right now. can you please turn it down. It's really distracting with the audio unless actually recording from outside the christmas tree in new york right now yeah i mean i saw national opponents christmas vacation right when it hit video and it was one that my family very much enjoyed. I can't say it's like a perennial watch for us. I've probably seen it like four or five times over the course of my life and always very much enjoyed it. It was one of the better of that franchise. It's kind of like national hoon's vacation probably the best and then christmas vacation is really good in the resting kind of ignore benny in june movie. I had heard a lot about. It was pretty well known. And i watched it in. Advance of the interview was actually quite shocked by. It's a pretty entertaining film with johnny depp. Aidan quinn as well as mary. Stuart masterson. it's a movie that i think. If it were made now it would be made differently and that it's dealing with a lot of mental illness situations and they are very the very nonspecific about what exactly the issues are so you kind of have to glean it for yourself. But it's still a very charming romantic. Kind of fun comedy. I enjoyed it. It's a really light entertaining film. I never saw tell tale. That was a disney adventure with. Patrick swayze believe he played pecos bill. Maybe it was kind of a fantasy Western kind of thing. And i suspect that probably what got him in the door for avengers just because it showed he could work with effects. That would have been. I think fairly important so that was kind of checks background. The writer was done mcpherson. Who i really wasn't familiar with. He'd written a couple films that i feel like our kind of lost the sands of time he did absolute beginners patsy kensit as well as crossing the line which was an early liam nissan film. I haven't seen either of them I don't think they've had much of a legacy of eastenders them. I haven't watched eastenders now to to. That will work for all the british vance and no one else but yeah he'd also worked in you know some tv work and then he wound up on this film and he talks about how he wound up on it because it seems an unlikely trajectory for him to be writing a very expensive blockbuster film. Both of them. I was. I can kind of see the trajectory like you pointed out with jeremiah. With don i feel like we do so talk about. This needs to be to be fair. He how he got the part and how. He had been writing scripts in the background. Hadn't been made you've been involved in projects but they just never got to screen so his name was It's kind of hard when because you just go like. Where is the work. But he's done tons of stuff. It just the scripts is sitting in an office somewhere. Yeah yeah oh. Totally i mean. That's the story of so many hollywood writers who have written a lot of things that just never got produced They've continued to work since check has done a lot of tv. Shows like burn notice. Chuck gossip girl the gifted. He's still at work. You know consistently mc verses written on the fleming tv series as well as he did the Sean penn action. The gunman handful years ago. So they're both still out there. But yeah unlikely duo. Maybe to be making a blockbuster at this point so when it came to casting the one real note to make is that nicole. Kidman was cast as emma appeal. That was who they wanted. I from what it sounds like the chemistry tests with her ray fines quite strong. But because of eyes wide shut the stanley kubrick film. Going along with the shoot. She was not available to do it so she had to drop out. And the studio was very big on numa thurman they'd used her in batman and robin as poison ivy. She was very much blowing up at this point. This is post pulp fiction oscar nomination. It's a time where they're really trying to exploit huma thurmond's appeal to be more of a big movie star and You know so. That's kind of how that happened. It's one of those interesting alternate scenarios. Like what happens if nicole kidman stars in this movie. I really wanna see the world where all sorts negga plays august to winter and just makes ice puns. It's so weird. That hoover thurman back-to-back blockbusters that are not well remembered that feature and abundance of weather puns. One of the ones. I always love. I might get this wrong. He's you know courts but is what killed the dinosaurs the ice age. It's like absolutely gibberish. You nailed it. That's the quote. Yeah yeah there's a lot of those. The ice fed cometh the new chill. Bird boy yeah. It's crazy like apparently in warner brothers. There was a lot of just obsession with ice ponds and snow ponds and all that. It's weird how like we talked about. Sony's men in black international which was recycling elements from sony's ghostbusters reboot. In what like why you know. This is just a couple of years divorced. Why are you repeating elements but it seems like a lot of that wound up in ninety seven. Ninety eight with batman and robin. The avengers like these two movies have a lot of things in common. I notice in my nose over a teeny little section about the coleman trends between them. But it's weird. The batman and robin has this sort of coq status. Now it's a bad film. We'll is a bad film but people still talk about. It gets blu ray releases four k. releases also of stuff whereas avengers gets nothing. But i'd say there was about as bad as each other. Do you think it's just because it's batman. But i mean it's the avengers not those avengers. Well i just think if. It's like a batman thing it's always going to have that lifespan. Because every time warner brothers wants to put a box sets of batman movies those. Tim burton movies. I'm sure sell a lot on blu ray four k. etc. They're going to put out the package. You can get the whole set and so it just means that batman and robin is constantly having that resurgence of happening again again and again onto people like they can't fight it. Robert is just going to keep coming. Whereas i think if they'd made a sequel to the avengers or a reboot of this film are this property and it was big like people loved it. I think this will be would have those boutique releases and there would be more of an effort to get it out in front of people or even. Maybe a tv ru reboot that exploded. I think you need that brand out there because that happens. Suddenly you're gonna get you know four k. Versions of the avengers from nineteen ninety eight. It's the same way like You know they just put out a four k. Release of the role of godzilla because khan vs godzilla and kind of the monster versus going on right now it. Just you need the brain to be healthy weight. Getting makes it now. Are you saying. Because of the chris file. Tv shows. That's coming soon. I'm gonna get full k. Ups upgrade for the but to beijing and midnight and is berg is. That is that what i'm getting. I would not rule it out. I think if that is a big hit with people you may see a proper releases at least in north america. They're very sketchy with the releases. They put out a good app. Chris file one. There's a decent funeral in berlin. But i think you may see a box set or something like that. I could see that. I actually probably by just for the jokes watching bullets beijing and hatred. Although you know what the little drummer girl series with florence pew which you've been watching that didn't do anything to kick the doors open for a bigger distribution for the diane keaton film so you never really know. I guess. I think they had such a big grave with that film that the tv show couldn't get them out too late too late. So as i said this movie had a sixty million dollar budget domestically did twenty. three million. International numbers are a little muddy. So i came across to numbers. Twenty five million or thirty one million for a worldwide total of either. It's basically forty point six. Because if i say forty nine the numbers don't add up properly so it kind of worked to forty eight point six or fifty four point seven again. The numbers have been confusing but not good. They didn't recoup their budget. I should say so. It landed at number sixty four for the year. Worldwide between the negotiator. The samuel jackson thriller and the big lebowski so the dude abides higher than the basket. Your lower limb lebowski it was one spot above. That's something people maybe don't remember because the big lebowski is become such a phenomenon and a very very loved movie and that it was not a big box office performance at the time and was actually critically got a lot of kind of you know three star two and a half star reviews because they were like this is no fargo. It was a scene at the time is very inferior. Follow up to that ten nine hundred ninety six classic. Well that's just their opinion man indeed so the top three for this year boy. What a sandwich and number one we have armageddon and number two. We have saving private ryan and number three. We have roland emmerich. Godzilla singing wanna miss a thing or the jamiroquai song from zealand. But they were good songs. I what was the second film saving private ryan. That went did not have a great arena. Rock song did no. It did not the guy zillow in for me. I always think of the puff. Daddy song with the led zeppelin sample. That was awesome. Oh the den and then at ten and a casually. Yeah that's it. That's it. I was thinking about the deeper underground jamiroquai for oh possible. I never got these soundtrack to thousand eight godzilla. We're trying to pull away from the film. It's like i wonder what god zillah now. I saw that one once in theaters and have not revisited. It unless the avengers. Which i've seen now three times. That's the same actually. I saw that in theaters and again. I was a bit lost. I've seen a couple of the japanese films. And i thought this is nonsense yet. I didn't like that. He as a kid. Yeah so yeah godzilla. it's interesting that it was viewed. As a disappointment in that era like people looked at godzillas. Box office bomb. He was number three for the year. Worldwide it just shows you how differently. Hollywood looks at foreign money back. In those days it was like domestic. Was everything international was kind of a bonus but they didn't look at that as a sign of this movie was hit a strange because it really did have a bad whiff to it. I go to the film Yeah couple other spy. Things that are notable this year number thirteen enemy of the state. The will smith film and number forty four. We talked about it not too long ago. Ronin a fill Yeah and i just to close out the reception for this movie. As i said not. Good the razzies. Were not kind that year. It won the worst remake and sequel which tied with godzilla and psycho. I think that's a cheat when three movies win. The worst remake or sequel psycho. Yeah the gusman. Sent a shot for shot. Remake of psycho was a bad. It's the same movie but like stripped of anything that makes it special. Was it bad. it's well it's the same movie just with worst casting and color. Why would anyone do that. He does it was like it was an experiment. It was a shot for shot remake. It had a couple of things they added on including like a more graphic masturbation scene things like that but or during. I believe the shower scene. It like cuts to like tornadoes or something right. I know it's it's a non movie you watch it and you go well now. I understand that there is an experiment happening to prove that original movies have magic around them that you cannot replicate because they could not replicate it. It just sounds like masturbation itself anyway remake a film that way. It's just why it was. Gus van saying coming off of goodwill hunting and that was his cash in the chips project he always wanted to the one for me one for you did do much after that. Oh yeah he's done tons of but he's more of an independent director anyway so he does a lot. House stuff. Goes my joke thanks. Yeah yeah no. He's been very successful. This movie was also nominated the razzies. For worst picture actor actress screen couple supporting actor director screenplay and original song a song. I was not aware of called storm which was performed in the movie by grace jones in the radio science orchestra. It's in the movie. Apparently maybe the credit cranks jones. Maybe it's kinda halfway through the credits. I didn't watch all the way the credit the credit quite boring. This music playing. What sort of score over. The i should say. I mean the score isn't very good but yeah okay well. I think we've done beginning to crap all over this film one. We continue to do so. Let's go for it right. It's been rewatching film. You know to do things twice. So i realized at once for the interviews and then there was a few weeks gap and now we're recording of washed at once again and whilst i was a little softer on it the second time. This is my thoughts a over written mess mostly indecipherable and suffering from a severe lack of connection between the leads. Nia i mean that pretty much sums it up my thoughts this time were i will say i felt kinder and kinder each time. I watched it. I really did not enjoy watching it. Theaters i walked out my friend and i were just like crapping all over it when we were out of the theater When we are when. I watched it for the interviews. I was like okay. This pretty bad. This movie's a mess watching it. This time i still maintain like narrative. It's boy we're gonna talk about some of the editing in this movie. And i think a lot of that can be summed up just the fact that that this movie went through hell in the editing room like new the studio cut it to shreds and chechik talks about in the talk with him but there was like a two hour kind of this movie. That was not the version that wound up in theaters. There was a kind of a compromised to our version of. That was probably fairly sound in terms of connective tissue. But they edited this thing down to a movie. That is eighty one minutes when you remove the credits. That's not a movie like eighty one minutes is threadbare it reminds me of actually the jonah hex film from a handful years ago with josh brolin. I think that movies like seventy eight minutes or something credits. It's like absolutely edited. Two ribbons on ninety. Second street was longer than that. Yeah i don't think we've done anything this short That i can think of off the top of my head which you could make a jerk and be like thankfully but i see it more as case of tragedy. Yeah because this is doing a lot of weird things. And i think for me where i struggle with this thing is. It's very specific. Vision like they are trying to create a very strange world. And i don't think it's done well. I think it's very confusing. I don't really understand the world of this movie. And we're going to dive into all sorts of elements of it. Well i'm sure we'll get into the whole teddy bears of it all. But there's a lot of elements that just are really confusing. I don't think they do a very good job of communicating to the audience. And i mean the version of the film. I should say not. Necessarily what the filmmakers intended but the final version of the film does not do a good job communicating to the audience. What this world is and how it works because it's like there's so many broad crazy things happening but at the same time you have every actor pretty much. Almost every actor is like talking in puns throughout the movie. No you're to leads are just like hitting on each other relentlessly for a moment one to the end and it doesn't feel natural it also. Everything's very everything's this very like arch kind of strange campy tone but it never grounds any sort of suspense or tension so the movie feels very flat because of that. There's no danger to this movie whatsoever. And it's very weirdly straightforward. Remember when you. And i went god talking about movie experiences. Scott when you and i were in vegas i think it was twenty eighteen twenty seventeen. It's all a blur now. We went in that summer to see the dark tower. The adaptation adaptation that steven king book series. And you and. I hadn't read the books. Our friend tyler who showed up on our three days of the condor episode hat and we walked out and he was saying like. How could anyone ever understand that. It was so convoluted trying to get across all this lower in this ninety minute one hundred minute movie and i think you and i had a different experience. Which was this movie was stripped so bear. You can just took everything is like well. There's a bad guy and they need to stop the bad guy and that's kind of all you can take from it. That's kind of how i feel about this movie. It's like we set up. You know the sean connery august dewinter. There's your bad guy. there's evil plot. Stop him. That's all i can take from this movie because everything else around it so confusing. This film truly forgotten. The face of his father's. There's a dark tower reference for everyone that Watch that movie. i don't ever want what's family. I'd rather watch a venture that same watchdog tower. At least at least is that you minimize yes. that's true. i mean maybe like dr fans would rather just revisit that wreck the way i do with like jaws three or something but Yeah for me personally. I would rather watch the on. The is that high drunk. How do you do i. It's it's like masochism. I've watched like jaws three so many times more times than most movies. I'll ever talk about on spy. Okay well i agree with you. Said then think there's going to be a moment here where we're gonna be out sink. I think faults in the film. One bit the i have a major gripe quiz is The chemistry between the actors aren't yo to leads. Ray fines plane. John steed houma therm playing. Dr m appeal or dr mrs m. appeal depending on who you ask not only to the the conversation feel like it just wasn't reading lines of for page or not sure that's what script is but they're not saying the words to each other than just saying woods out there. Yeah and and not only that. Everything's also really heavily and you can tell and that always wrote me. The wrong way takes me out of the scene. If if i feel like it's been recorded i feel like i'm not there anymore. Which is maybe. that's just a me thing. But there's no connection between no and you just sit there staring at like sitting there staring at ten people just spouting nonsense each other and it is nonsense like everything they do is just basically a flirty come on. That's all they talk about and like the movie has no escalation to their relationship. She's introduced in a very confusing way. Like i don't know the origins of this character on the show. I know that diana rigg joined the show in nineteen sixty five so like four years in. I don't know how convoluted the backstory was when she joined but setting this character up as like someone who worked on the prospero program which was a weather shield and they need to investigate her. there's a cloned. There's another emma peel radar. It's very confusing. Like i think if you're going to draw people into a crazy world certain things need to be kinda matter of fact we need to just understand. 'em appeal is from moment one if everything around her is going to be insane and it's not everything about her is kind of confusing. I don't really understand who this character is. She's referred to as mrs throughout the movie. We have a one line. Just tossed off of her husband got lost in the amazon. And you're like hat like what and then that's never referenced ever again but there's this ongoing romantic kind of spark with and it's not really a spark it's as you said it's just too actress trying to create chemistry in a vacuum and they don't have any so i feel bad for them because they're kind of doing the best they can but it's just not working and just because everything about this character that she's playing is so kind of vague and we don't really have a good grasp but who she is. It makes it that much harder. I had questioned for you. What did you think of uma thurman british accent. I made of. This is actually going to ask you that question. Because i now you have a tough time with accents. Yeah it's abysmal. Truly some of the was it's it's not kiana reeves in dracula but it's up there. Because when i listened to her accident in this all i hear is poison ivy. It's that may west kind of vampy voice. She's doing batman and robin. And yes there's more of a little to the accent. But when i listen to it it doesn't sound like a natural accent in any way shape or form. I think it doesn't help the dialogues. Not natural yeah. I mean none of us have t- dispensing 'cause comets or completely outrageous anyway. Really full and i'm canceling my trip. Because that's what. I was showing up to see. We just kept spinning you ourselves. Got messy after. A lot of their dialogue reminded me of a movie. We talked about very recently. Which is die another day You have that scene. Where bond and jinx i meet and they are talking complete. Gibberish about like ornithologists. I don't know birds coming to hunt at night. It's crazy you know you can make a lot of jokes about what actually is going on in that scene but because it's so incoherent but this will be does that that dialogue consistently through out cam. Feast they feast. But doesn't this feel like that dialogue sequence for ninety minutes. Yeah it's not like there's a you can point to that seen in another day. Take some jokes and a mess around this other interesting parts in the film. Judi dench in there actually talking human being. It's fine this film entirely between the two leads. I i mean. I have some bad things to say about maybe Jibril ben and sean connery. Sure and tons of that dialogue. Maybe they're still speaking in puns. Like sean connery's dropping weather. Puns left right and center as well as weird innuendos sinks. Things like you know like a you can get a good ten inches overnight Things like that like so weird but then you know jim broadbent playing mother. And then you have. Fiona shaw as father. The two heads of the ministry and they're talking in puns sometimes like saying things like it really isn't mother's day things like that it's like every character is talking in puns jinping like do you think that was a conscious effort of the script to have this sort of dialogue and we would have maybe go more if we've seen the full version like maybe we were bought into it. They were this just this way because from the get-go you said the scene. Where right fines is flying. Off to granny's which is a nice time seed grants coming back from one of listens missing on. I'm happy they're still busy. But he's talking in puns immediately. Yeah so there's no ramp up to it. It's not like numa thurman turns off not goes buoying and the punts come out he is he says pun and she's pure punt until the very end and so against as you'd let off with. There's no connection in your leads. You don't care and then and then we pay off from that. The other problem is as you said. There's no stakes. There's no tension. There's no a. There's no danger in this world you don't you're just a passive observer of this film you don't care about the stakes. You barely know what's actually going to happen if he succeeds in these plan what he gets them to buy weather off of him ohno but also because you're too leads are so aloof and just speaking in puns. They don't seem affected by anything that's going on either like they're not reacting like anything scary or dangerous they have that ironic distance so the audience carries that with them and i think if people understood the tone of what's going on it might work. I don't i think they're trying to do kind of pop art kind of campy film which maybe on a lower budget could have worked. But you know you think about movies. Like i don't know Will bam robbins a disaster because all these pieces don't work but look at a movie like mad max fury road. Then we'll be full of insane things. You have a guy with a flaming guitar playing on the front of trucks. You've got all these weird images one after another but because they understand the tone in how to ground it and how to place you in a place where you can understand that world and follow along with a very stripped down easy to understand story and characters. You can understand it works. We accept the world. But i think the problem here is we have a insane world where nothing makes sense in two characters. We also can't understand. I hadn't thought about this but you really just nailed it for me with. The catch is not really caring about the danger. So there's a scene where jones status overcome. Somehow i can't remember how is but thurman rescues him and takes him back to his house and he wakes up in in these pajamas and gets up to cup of tea and he's he's seven guys. Oh i'm home. He doesn't care that he almost died or the in. How the fuck did i get home. Or where am i close. I'm so scared an injured. What's going on it's like. I'll have some lemon in my t- Sexy legs mum and just boring connect and you can say that. Like james bond movies do this. The james bond is always cool under pressure. You get those moments where you get that recognition that there's danger happening. Jaws attacks like roger moore inspire who love me. He looks a little concern. He has that look on his face of like. This guy is dangerous. You know you look at sean connery fighting red grant on the train. There's exertion he understands how deadly this guy is both and john steed basically just like raise an eyebrow smile at everything that's happening it reminded me a lot of Henry cavill character in the man from uncle where he just seemed like. He was too big for the film. It was it was above all whereas at least you had well I'm sure he he's. He's been cancelled to annoy existence. Now but at least you have army hammers character to solve level at out he at least seemed scared and an engaged in it. Whereas you've basically go to henry capitals just Mugging each other. Yeah and that's just a problem. Because i think you need to ground this world because i don't think what this movie is doing in terms of its world building. It's not coherent to us. But i don't think it's unacceptable like i don't think what they're asking us to embrace in this world is so far beyond the pale that it's unacceptable. I think it if it's grounded properly. I think people might have enjoyed this world. It's just that when the actors and the characters by extension don't seem invested in it. Why should we be as john. Steed gets into a phone booth and then he's hit with a hurricane thunderstorm and he just terrible weather we're having today. You could literally die right now and that's what you gotta come up with okay. I also didn't understand this movie obsession with having john. Steed get like almost killed multiple times but then it's just like well. They didn't kill him like He gets attacked by the thurman clone twice like once she shoots him point blank and the second time punches him out and knocks him out in Hedge maze and then he just wakes up later and he's like no i'm okay and nearly all the weren't you endanger like did this character not wanna kill you. I don't understand why they keep knocking him out. Just let him get away. I we could. We could go further into the lack of connection between two. I think that's one of the main routes of the problem with this film but the other thing is the plot it i mean i know you say that we could buy it and it's not too farcical and that's fine. We've watched much waiter films but it starts off immediately talking about the way the control. So you have to kind of get you your bearings of what this is world has been really like explains the rules. I know like show. Don't tell i understand that and it does show more than it may be. It tells. But i don't understand any of the rules as again you just know invested in it. I don't have a problem with the whole weather. Control thing it feels kind of like a comic book. James bond kind of idea. I don't really understand the movies obsession with having these characters kind of track. Various organizations were. We're going to like wonder whether or something like that. And i'm like who are they. I don't understand what any of this is but in terms of actual villain plot. It's fine. it's just that it just doesn't have any real stakes. Because we don't really know what sean connery doing. And we also don't even understand who. Sean connery character is. He's introduced playing an organ like he's phantom of the opera and over him so he's playing this oregon and is very dramatic introduction. It's it's kind of fun. I enjoyed that introduction of that character over the oregon is like a painted photo of the appeals face thurman portrait basically in why. I don't understand why you know he's obviously involved including later we find out he's behind the duplicate 'em appeal but like why does he have a painting of his clone. Over top of the oregon is his wife from back in the day. He's replicating like what is going on like. None of this makes any sense. And it's clearly it's not as white because it's m. appeal. But like why is he so fixated on this clone that he has a painting. Over his oregon. That sounds really dirty but none the less. Oh sure so. You said that. And now i'm just thinking about right at the end when peel and steed Going into the winds lehrer and they you know she she. She liked mouths a pass code into a microphone and he lets them in and i wonder miles washing. Why did he let them in. Because they just got to ruin his plan and they do when he dies is it because he loved her. Was there a story that was cut as at the twenty minutes because he tries to. Basically daybreak Am appeal at one point. He gets her drugged in his house. And he's gonna start making out with her on a bed and then he gets called away and she escaped. How sean yeah i. It's it's like really weird. Because i don't understand his connection. Emma peel throat this none of that is explained and the thing is like and it's something here about in the interview. We have with don mcpherson august two winter. The character who is this movie played by. Sean connery was not the villain of the script. He was a secondary character fairly small in the script who was expanded and blown up. When they got sean connery the original villain actually did have an entire tied to the po family. So like having a photo of 'em appeal up over top of that other character might have made sense because it was a relative of hers. But with sean connery it makes absolutely no sense. See i never noticed that picture. But now i counseled thinking about it. Yeah as to why like i just icon. Stand it. it's like. They built the sets for the original version of the script and they were like well. I'll just keep it anyway. The so many. I feel like we will end up doing two hours to just mean questions and being like we talk about. Maybe a couple of things we liked. Sure let's s this pill for second. I really liked. The scene is probably my favorite scene in the film. When they're taylor's and a fencing and sort of giving listen dialogues and background on the characters. But it's played off like flooding really come across and that's probably the realist they feel in the whole film. Yeah it was reminded of the fencing scene in die another day which was also my pretty much my favorite scene in that movie and that you know it was a well staged fencing seen it felt like because the actors were distracted with the sword fighting choreography. They were focusing everything on puns and innuendos so like it felt like there was a little more of a spark. They're not quite a spark but close. I enjoyed that scene. I enjoyed honestly. Like maybe i'm kind of ruined in some ways because i think in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight when the movie came out no one acknowledged this is a movie that was visually impressive at all Looking at it now after watching so many garbage looking action movies where directors have just lost the ability even kind of the mid level directors to make things that are visually impressive. I watched this movie. And i see some really crazy shots. There's a whole croquet game. Between sean connery's character and fiona shaw's father character which i know is confusing to say but the movie. It's very confusing nonetheless. Just to watch the movie and have mother and father being whatever anyways scene which is like crazy angles and it's really jumps out and like you could say it's maybe A little obnoxious perhaps visually but appreciated that. It was distinct. Like there was moments and shots in this movie. That i would say. Hey i don't see things like this nowadays. That makes it kind of interesting to me. There's some really hard zooms characters all basically abruptly say something. The camera like rocketing on their face. You know things like that. It's different. I kind of appreciated seeing you know really What's the word. It's not grounded in realism and a lot of movies. Try to ground everything in realism. Now even the things that are really fanciful. They tried to do everything with sort of documentary like film making style. You know the paul greengrass they're trying to portray it very much with kind of calm composed camera shots whereas like i look at what they're doing here. There's going insane dutch angles crazy high angles low angles like it looks visually very comic bookie in that way that they would show comic book movies in that era. Yeah this is this is my other. I wasn't really a moment is a feeling especially from my second recent. Viewing it has this sort of unapologetic campinas to I appreciate that. I'm not saying it worked. But i appreciate what they were going for and i it kind of folks that sort of star trek sixty six batman sixty six. It's not in the six and is meant to look a bit better but there's a side of it that i almost wanna say trump to this film. Yeah somewhere there like it's lost in there. But there is a certain amount of charm. I can i can and this is what fascinates me about these other cuts to the film. Is i think there's some way in this film a good film. I don't know that. I would say a good film but i think a film we would maybe appreciate more because at least negatively would make more sense. I that's that's the question that question for you. If if if we had the full cup the chechen cut the to our version of this film. It's not that change the chemistry So does it save the film. No i don't think so. I think the chemistry's always going to be a problem. And i think those ponds aren't going anywhere i think a lot of the You know the dialogue is still going to be kinda grading to sit through how those funds are going nowhere. But i think in terms of the plotting you would have less confusion everything going on moment to moment because the movies very confusing. Yeah and that's something. I wrote down as well is. I wouldn't say it reminded me of anything but it doesn't affect that so if born legacy worship throwing words that you read pills blue pills mother. Father umbrella of whatever. The name organization was raleigh briley. Briley yeah okay. Great thanks I'm just his shrugging. This film as mercy's owned by Yeah i that would maybe get saved. Because they have more time to explain the things but like when when he tends up to that organization speaks to a a very very young keeley. Hose who And he tries to. Jones beach tries to hire weather. I think i didn't really get what he was doing behind interested. I think this is why. I'm getting to august a winter. But he's like pretending to high weather. I i'm confused by but like that whole section. Just did what he was doing while he was there. And i didn't understand it. Yeah and i think like elements like maybe houma thurman husband who disappeared in the amazon. Like maybe that characters. Explain like maybe. There's a payoff to things. Like there's a lot of things that are just introduced not paid off. And then you have like weird scenes. Were like uma. Thurman escape sean. Connery's house dives out a window and then like the next scene in there are basically and john steed department. It's like world the villains not try to capture them. there's also like a woman named alice. I believe who has like a machine gun. She saves them a couple times by eileen atkins and august winter catches her. We cut away. We don't hear about that character for quite a while. i guess he's dead and then she just shows up and it's like i've got a letter with his demands near like you've got to convince us that guy's dangerous and so far. He's like knocked out john's couple times. He's kidnapped alice for like an afternoon. Like what is this guy's threat level. It seems very very low. It doesn't other ways to like The balloon the father and the clone of ms emma peel off into was into the film. They just on it. They just appear on this air balloon out. Nowhere while the sky but out of nowhere Quickly dispatched. that you just have to go. I guess they just went and picked up a whole air balloon from somewhere in central london. And then you go like patrick mcnally you a guest in this film as invisible jones. I guess like he's they walk in this. Oh it's an invisible guy. I remember being really confused by that in the theater. I remember when that invisible guy showed up. I really knew. I didn't know what i was watching because it was like this doesn't this doesn't jive with what i've seen the rest of this movie like. This doesn't mix well with what i've seen so far. It feels weird like it feels like people had issues with the invisible car and die another day like it was at step too far. That's how i felt about invisible guy in this movie. It's like we haven't set up a world where people are invisible. I feel like i know. They're going with the trajectory of that. Because it's like in this universe you can control the weather okay. So we're playing fast and loose with physics. That's fine but then they just walk in and he's just invisible. There's no like there's not checkout gun situation where you see like an invisible thing in the background some point or like. Don't go down there. That's where the invisible guy works. But he's actually there thirty minutes later. There's no setup for it and so you just get there and you just presented with this invisible guy that you don't really understand why he's there. Yeah so again. that'd be more for me. It does a weird thing where it will just suddenly like drop a new character into your lap. And you're like who is this person and then they'll never be spoken of again and that's kind of the case invisible guy. Obviously that's more of a Cameo for patrick knee. But it's also feels like. Shouldn't this be a bigger deal that there's an invisible man. He could have really helped them on this mission. Like when you want to send this guy into spy onto winter like it raises so many questions like why is this. Not a thing that this agency uses like. Why are there not invisible agents running around maybe there are a mind. Maybe there are there everywhere. there's a character played by carmen. Yobo who's an agent as well with the ministry. She like shows up at like maybe the hour mark or something seems to be sort of a character and has a moment at the end with father. And you're like. I have no idea who this person is like. It's like random. Guest star does to scenes walks out mother and she's feeding him biscuits That's the height of her career. And jim broadbent character Mother this is another element of confusion. Again you need something you can rely on. You need one aspect. Bond movies can be crazy but we cut back to you. Know m moneypenny. We know them. We know their world. We know what they're going to explain to us. And how it's all gonna make sense so like they're giving you all the background you need and you trust them with mother and father. I have no idea what's going on. I don't know why they have the kind of the swapped mother father names based on gender. I don't understand any of that. I don't know why mother has dangerous all over his shoulders. There's a lot of just aspects of these characters. i just don't understand like why does father look like a mad scientist. i don't know. Is this the person that made the visibility. Because i believe it and then you have as you said the balloon sequence which sets up we find out that father is a villain but then like dispatched along with the appeal clone. Almost instantly like. Isn't this something we should be building this whole impure clone. Isn't that an important thing. But the movie just kind of like injuries elements and then gives them no real payoff and those both father and and just go boom in we move on. They fly into building. I am very slow speed in a hot air balloon. It's a it's a painful watch. Yeah and i had a question about that. Actually so okay appeal. When she's kidnapped you put in that balloon. she's wearing. i think like her red outfit. She has you know M a red outfit throughout much of the movie so she escapes from that balloon and she's in that red outfit. Boom the balloon goes up. Know we see 'em appeal clone. Who is in the classic black catsuit blow up big time the next time we see those characters. They're walking across water in inflatable like clear balls. Basically and m. appeal is wearing the black catsuit. Like what i know. It's not an i tried to find. I was hoping for a line or we had have not i or some nonsense but there's nothing your mentor understand. That they went straight there really because they're trying to stop the winter from destroying the weather in london or whatever is plan was still. don't really know. I assumed that maybe the idea was taken. The catsuit off the clone so she could pose as the clone in going infiltrate to winters lehrer. I killed them. You know something along those lines. It poses a clone but none of that actually happens. I mean again. That might explain why he let the main. Yeah but how did she know. The password to get in by the way is possible for everything. How now brown cow. I get something in the show and normally people we should say we maybe should have mentioned this upfront when we do movies based on tv shows typically. We like to talk about the pilot. Which wouldn't have done us that many favors because diana rigg doesn't join until sixty five but nonetheless we like to watch the pilots for a sense of the energy and the tone of the of the original show but in this case the avengers the first season like went up barn fire or something so like they don't exist Yeah they This little bits of the first season is a couple of episodes left. This is a fool like twenty five episodes season. And there's like fifteen minutes of the pilot still available out there for the rest of the types were basically lost. There was a a lot fires a couple of fires a big fire. Bbc storage facility for all types loss of of the very old doctor who's lost as well Eventually they've been found one by one over like they've been sent over the wall but because the first season of avenge wasn't really played in america. It didn't get sent to america and copies. What night so it was really just a british fan that was not picked up and then lost so yeah it put us in a situation where we were having the back and forth of. Do we just watch a random episode and talk about that on the show. Which i don't know it doesn't have the same sort of appeal. I think it's one appeal. Not bad not bad. Cam- he's here all week So it just didn't make sense for us to just pick you know like episode seven of season three to talk about that in relation to the movie. So that's where maybe some of my confusion comes in and not quite grasping the tone of maybe what the show would do or what the back story of emma appeal is all like his mother and father a thing. Yeah that the is like well. If i watched the show and all of the weird stuff was in the show could at least go right. Doesn't make sense to me. But at least the copying Like you really remake star trek when j.j. abrams did at eastern Flees to out. Listen that if you've never watched star trek you have no idea. Starfleet is So i could see my mother and father wouldn't make sense if it was in the show. But i have no proof of it was it was not but then you should try make an effort to maybe explain what these things whereas we're left with like it seems like more of a gag really a guys playing mother woman's playing father and that is just a sight gag and that's with and not very funny one. I looked up on the imdb. And i saw the pilot like a male actor did play mother on the pilot so that is a thing on the show. But i'm sure they actually may be explained why that was the thing. Probably i'm gonna guess. I don't know venture out there. You know tweet at us boom let us know. Let us know what you think about this film. But i mean we've we've looked at the grand scheme of the film. I and we've looked at the major issues. Why so it fell apart. Maybe let's get into the minutiae a little bit more before we start to wrap things up but the bez remember carrying with me out of the theater and was like the lightning point for me of what was that was the the The bears i mean the invisible guy was a big one but the bears was like Like what am. I even watching right now. I it doesn't make any sense. There's no ledin knowing explains why they're in suits apart from like keeping their anonymity I guess But i you you you go like the films pushing his luck by the twenty minute point where you meet the bez and you go okay. This is nonsense. This is absolute nonsense by this. Point is just all over the place and you've got sean connery cheering the scenery. Making william shatner proud in teddy sue and i mean it's is gloriously. Campy greg a great image like just the visual of this table of all these teddy bears. In sort of these pastel colored outfits like sitting around is pretty memorable like it's a great image. I think You check knows what he's doing. He's a photographer by trade. He knows how to make a visual. That will stick in your mind but in terms of building a movie around it. it's insane And it doesn't it just doesn't work with. I think what this movie is trying to do. Although i don't really know what it's trying to do is just so confused and then you know you have scenes were like they're chasing around dudes and teddy bear outfits afterwards and this is another big problem in that. Okay there's all these mysterious figures in in teddy bear suits We see throat the movie some of these teddy bears. They find the bodies and pull the helmets off. We don't know who the people are. So it's not even like you know. They removed one of the helmets. And it's like oh it's father nothing like that. It's just all random people or is commonly yoga or something like that like some sort of reveals that connected to whereas the is left to thurman give like little lines of exposition and like he was the head of says assess a brolly o or whatever organization. You like okay. And i mean ca. Plays a silent goon in this movie. She really doesn't have any character because she's silent throughout the film. She gets one line at the end which is kind of a joke. You know it's the f. word ha but that's the only character other than dewinter wearing teddy bear suit that we can really glean any sort of. Oh okay well. That's one of them but then it boils back to just why. Why are they wearing the setia seats. To what function does it serve apart from the visual. Well dear listener. Who's listening to this podcast right now. You tune into that. Don mcpherson interview. He's gonna explain exactly why they're in teddy bear outfits and it's pretty crazy but also makes a lot of logical sense this movie. Nah finished product makes no sense whatsoever. I wonder what i was. I was a child. When i saw this film in the mall and i feel like i was partially talking audience for this even eleven. I knew this was confusing. Yeah says it's definitely a failure on the part of the film. I even the teddy bears could have just used one line eighty eighty yard. I don't care just something to give something because otherwise we're just staring at the scene in on rue scratching their heads. You at least have to put father in one of those outfits. Yeah you have to like even just do an insert shot of father around the corner somewhere you know when all the chaos is going on just pulling off one of the helmets and okay cool. That's a character we actually recognize. You like helped well. I i think i don't really care who was in them. I just think i would like to know why they're in them. Sure while karma. We're we're really ringing in birthday with this film. So i think what we'll do is we'll pivot over to our lead at talk about that formats now right fines. I struggle with as a person. I i associate him so strongly with foldable. Defer made it's really hard to remove that from my brain. So when he turned up in bombed. For instance i was just like i can report. Who moved and i just kept saying that the screen and then they found me out of the is. It was quite embarrassing but You didn't like my impression buzz. That this one of these early roles up stadium in I i get why they cost him. I get what it cost him. He looks the pa. Yeah i think. Rafe finds is a really great actor. And i mean for me. No schindler's list was the one that broke him through for me and boy. He is the epitome of evil in that movie. If you wanna see the most reprehensible character ever put screen. Watch him in schindler's list But i remember the years after that. He was kind of bouncing around. It's almost like they didn't know what to do with him. And he's in like kathryn bigelow. Strange days which is a really really interesting scifi film i think worthy of reappraisal and it has like no blu ray release whatsoever. It's like true lies of the abyss and that it just is weird limbo on crappy. Dvd transfer but. He's very good in but it felt like they haven't quite nailed down. What raif finds was yet as a lead and going forward you know he. Does things like grand. Budapest hotel where he's so funny and so quirky great in the bond movies now but this was a point where they're still trying to push him as potentially like a movie star leading man. I think he's a charming guy. I like him in terms of just like the visual of john steed but like he doesn't feel like he has the gravitas to ground. This movie he does other movies but in terms of what he's playing here he just feels like he's playing everything a little too slight. I his best. Bits in the film Either when he's not talking or when he's in an action sequence. Start film when you meet him on that sort of training. Course in the quaint village in england which is actually exactly what little veget- like and you are often attacked by the milkmen. I can confirm that's great. You know he's off quirkiness that ratio of five going on. But he's not really talking. He's making the all quit but it feels natural and then as soon as with them and tons up before the pieces but then in the final battle against august a winter you know he's actually having another sort of fight and you know it's more of an action areas soaking wet because of the water is like a ferocious action sequence. That works too. He looks the part then but as soon as he opens his mouth is just full. Pardon me yelich. I like him doing kind of the gentleman. Spy action stuff where he's using the umbrella as a prop in the fight scenes things like that. I enjoyed but you are right like the majority of his screen time. Him trading quips with thurman and it just doesn't work any of that material in. I mean he has. The same problem is so many of the characters just the distance universal any sort of tension coming off of them so it's tough to invest. I genuinely curious. And it's genuine ashamed that we didn't get to watch a pilot or greater watching episode. Because i wonder if that's how the show worked if they would just quitting over each other in order in strange situations. Maybe maybe it was the magic of you. Know patrick mooney and diana rigg or a on a black clinton made that work whereas east who didn't have that connections lack of connection and the weird dialup. Just leave dry and this movie is very much trying to be a romantic comedy for much of it and doesn't work. Yeah m appeal uma thurman you know as we said before she's off of pulp. Fiction is off batman robin And i mean she's had a couple of bathrooms now the rar this point to stinkers that she's anything else. Poff nursery films in that point. Oh boy I think she did. Like even cowgirls get the blues or something like there's some independent films but bam an robin and the avengers were to kind of at bats for more of a big studio alastair status type of you know ongoing role and it did not pan out a few years later. She does kill bill. And it's very clear. Uma thurman has the goods to be like an action star. She's fantastic and those movies. It's just that. I mean the quentin tarantino. Dialogue is a little bit better than the corky avengers dialogue and the poison. Ivy plant puns. So it's so weird. How does two movies with puns. Like back to back. i don't understand. it's so strange. But i think like you know like ray fine. She physically like she's pretty good in the action scenes here by her as both the clone. Emma peel as well as the the you know the weather. Scientists emma peel all great great strong word. But it's functional. I buy her in those roles. The problem is both her and finds as action. Figures and action. figures aren't known for being three dimensional. Every time you expect these characters have dimension. It doesn't work. But in terms of standing still or trading punches they work. it's one trader was so good. Yeah it's like quick action moments scenes of strung out in the catsuit. You're like well. Yeah you know. Pops comes easy to market in exciting to watch but in terms of actually executing it over the course of ninety minutes. it doesn't work and so be fair to houma. Share one further obstacle to overcome. Which is she's not british Yeah so she had to put on a questionable accent to then deliver these lines. I don't know why she couldn't have just been american or they would not have done that. That would've been heresy like you. British would have been just furious if they announced the im- appeal was american. You would have been angry. You would have been it would have been like the old simpson's torch-carrying mobs in the streets. I can say we're still not over the boston. Tea party stuff. So we're a bit grouchy about that sort of thing so okay. Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right. But i didn't hire a dialect coach. Go a little deeper or find a find a way to accent in the uk that you can do. Maybe you can't do. Pompey london accent. But maybe you can. Do you know some of north or someone from wales or something. You could do different british accent. So she has to overcome that and she's got terrible dialogue and so again really isn't it. Yeah yeah so. That pivots is over to a man that we haven't spoken about enough on this episode and frankly it's a shame because he is sir sean connery and he is our villain so august. A winter may be one of the best villain names of all time which is lifted. I guess from richard the third. Yeah sure yeah. I guess probably just do that one line. Will they have the reference to the with the prospero weather. Networks so miami. The that's the other shakespeare connection. Yeah show us talk sexy by hans guy really pushing up for a one year anniversary or bringing it down complete with a vengeance is. It's really a toss up at this point high and low. Yeah yeah okay who. We made a lot. And i think well. We aspire to middle lower middle either mine. I think she'll color is a funded as this film because he takes it does not take it seriously whatsoever. He's clearly having fun. Doing the bill shannon chew the scenery all day long pontificating as he walks around i mean there are some questionable choices would like not grabbing him with them and by the throat and stuff like that made me cringe a bit. But he is sean connery man. I yeah i mean sean connery just seems like he's doing this whole movie. Some sort of private joke. He seems consistently amused with what he's doing that putting them in like really garish like scottish tire Where right now. He just seems like he's just having fun. I think this was pretty much a paycheck role for him. I think he was investing a great deal in the character of august winter. I disagree i disagree. I like he sort of fun. He saw some fun with it. I think i think he needed the paycheck. He was in for that. He was still in the nineties. He was mostly doing things he wanted to do. The rock was something he wanted to do. The rock is little far away from this movie. There's a rock and hard place. This is hard. i. I think like sean connery read. This was like yeah. I play comic book character. I'm gonna go big and it's at school of thought that so popular in that era. Where jack nicholson the joker. Danny devito plays the penguin suddenly. Like if you are a really prestigious actor getting cast as a comic book villain. You're just like i go big. That's what i do. Tommy lee jones screams as way through batman. Forever arnold schwarzenegger camps it. Up through batman and robin. I think sean connery's following in that lineage. She's dislike comic book villain. I'm gonna be goofy. You get great accent. It's kinda total package your shore. And he's that name on the title. I sang sean connery in this film. If any he's bigger than ray finds new mathon. Oh for sure. I mean he would have been a larger reason for me going to this movie then either of them. I don't know necessarily. That was the same for me as an eleven year old. I don't think he. I hadn't really seen his bones that much. I the the rotor. Moore's i think around the age but Yeah i think i just what really drives me. He's the fun. Part is film whenever he's onscreen. Genego something funny. Yeah it might be insane. Might be ludicrous. But it's funny. His death scene great. I am someone who always loves a amazing villain death scene and the fact he gets impaled electrocuted and then carried away by the electrical bolt is incredible reverse pal tnd. Yeah electric upwards. I never got. Why carried them up. I don't fuck it at that point and you're right you minutes completely views i. That's my my favorite moment was anything. He was on screen for really. It was just fun to watch. Cheese always fun to watch. Ben a cont. Save this film. No no i have a question for you. Why are there no people in this movie. This is a movie set in london and the movie in some ways embraces its artifice and that like it looks really fake and i think a lot of intentionally looks fake i hate. The snow is made to look like cut up paper. Yeah yeah and it has that whole sound stage. Kind of feel. The way that tim burton's batman returns does it's very much trying to make the artifice. Look beautiful in a way. Weird and kind of surreal But this is london were told that like august. Winter's plan to. I don't know kind have world supremacy through weather in you cut to like streets of london. There's not a single person they're on the road. There's not a single other car incite other than you know whether there's a villain chasing them. A murderer hornet of some sort It's very weird. How unpopulated this movie is. When i was watching it. I noticed i noticed that too. Because it's the city. I live in city of angels. But that's la. Yeah today pepsi. But i couldn't figure out why. I wonder if it was like a budgetary thing because there's a scene where they're pulling up some like. The headquarters for their organization is forgotten. The name of and is just car now in london. You would have at least one homeless person at least one traffic warden given you tickets for people who pumped in their own places and at least three drunk people. Yeah any given time of the day probably shouting at one another i. None of that was all and a tourist map. Yeah i i think that's why it feels so weird win like the carmen kogo or you know the keeley hawes character show up. You're like there's other people in this movie like it feels weird whereas if it was populated world. Maybe you wouldn't raise those questions but here it feels like every character should be of some importance because there's no other normal individuals. There's no extra and this entire movie. Maybe and this is not a reason to do it. It's just an idea. I talked my head. Maybe it's just because they couldn't afford to do it with the the effects late wrong so when london's being pelted with snow you i mean you would theoretically have people running and screaming and frozen ice and buried under it and you'd have frozen people or couldn't afford any of that it's easy just to set the set the tone that there's no one here and late you haven't got to have clips of people running and screaming from the thunderstorms possibly i think it's more just budgetary. They had sixty million dollars and it seems like they put all their money into their sets. And i'm sure sean connery wasn't doing this for cheap. I think a lot of money went there. But it's just so weird that look. Maybe they don't have a lot of people in the finale. I think the you know the destruction of big ben's enough but it's just weird. How every single place they go. There's no human beings. There's no cars on the road. There's nothing if anything the village was More than london which is now. It's very strange now. I every time you point something out about this. Who am i just go and you can't answer it. It's so it's so strange okay. Do you have any final thoughts scam. I liked it. They introduce the connery character. As being a fanatical meteorologist. What does that even mean. As i just said i have absolutely no idea a man who is obsessed with predicting the weather this whole where he meets uma i in his little An arboretum And it gets a bit sexual and he gets quite hot and heavy about her saying some cloud names. Yeah nimbus all like okay sure. This is a strange place. Yeah i didn't. I didn't get it. It's again like i don't understand this character. I don't understand any of the characters really but it all feels very muddy. I really have any final thoughts except for we know as kyle so much longer And we spoke about. Maybe it wouldn't save the film. What do you think the cut would bring coherence. I think the plot points would make sense. I think that's a big part of it. I think scenes where characters are knocked out in the wake up an entirely different location. That wouldn't happen in the longer cut if that version had been put out. Do you think this film would have gone from. Razzie nominated to middling box office. You know maybe it has a blu ray release but that's about it like it's not it's an arrow films blu ray releases aquino lauber. Blu ray release. It is not getting a four k. Restoration i feel like it would probably have gone from being a one-star across the board movie to a two star across the board movie. Yeah that's the feeling. I'm getting an assertion because you guys will hit the interview later this week both the interviews and both people. We speak to very passionate about the film they made. And i share that passionate because i share the joy they have for making film. This is why we ever film podcast. I just don't think this particular film was salvageable. Yeah identity how. How inflated from what we do because we spoke to doma i in for high go inflated for you know middle of the road necking forty million dollars in box office to try to blockbuster how it went from that to that and i think that's probably where it lost lavas magic. I think the casting was a big part of it. I think they just as soon as they didn't get the actor for the role they wanted as emma peel. It just became studio interference. And you had someone who is a great actor Houma therms of academy award nominated actress. She's given many many great performances. It's just a very poor fit here. do you think that. Is that what you hang your hat on. The is the failing fill yeah. You don't have any chemistry so movies dead in the water if you can't even hang onto that then you've just lost everything else. That's the core thing that has to work okay. I have two final thoughts more observations really i. Did you know c. Obvious dubbing in the sean connery teddy vaccine. Yeah yeah. I mean a lot of it. Just feels like they're having to dub in dialogue to explain things to basically cover up all the problems that they're creating editing down to shreds. It's a one word. Oh which word. So he's he's talking to the teddy bears and he's just said that sentence. Sean connery talking to the teddy bears. And he's saying you know something about amount of money he's going to charge them one million dollars in on his mouth he says pounds. Okay yeah yeah yeah was like one million dollars right i. Yeah that jumped out on the say pounds. And i think it would be isn't entirely british film. Ahronoth thought maybe would screen over on your side of the pond. It would actually be pounds but We're just keep the pounds line that's strange So speaking of Fencing scenes and referencing dina the day earlier in the film. We get the meeting between John steed an appeal now. I have a question as to why he's naked. I never got that that's strange but the actual gentlemen's club in question a buddha lls. I believe this film calls it. Yup that looked remarkably like the place. They shot the fencing scenes in diner day. Or is it just it's those classic gentlemen's club atmosphere. I don't know if you've been to many of these gentlemen clubs. I was gonna say right now but i've always had them in new york doing the same thing that joke unfortunately never been two gentlemen's club no in that sense anyway and so no. I don't know but it looked remarkably. Like i know what you're saying about this old boys club feeling to you. Know the leather chairs that whole get up. I know what you're saying but it just felt like it was exactly the same place To take a look and see if it was the same location. It's possible it. I don't think it's impossible that it would be the The same location but Yeah kind of a weird sequence for them to i mean. I guess it's supposed to be like a you know he's trying to challenge her by being naked through the whole scene. And she's not lifting an eyebrow to the whole thing but it's it's a weird scene in a movie full of weird teens if anything. I'm more challenged by having to see ray fines naked. I suppose i just a question about the Robotic hornet attack. We have which reminded me at some ways of the speeder. Bike chase in return of the jedi. When they're going through the trees and they're like blowing up when they hit the trees. It reminded me of return of the jedi. But this sequence. Like i was kind of surprised that the cg looks better than i would have expected for in one thousand nine hundred. Fill the hornets actually. Didn't look terrible and they always hold up. Yeah yeah they're using practical ones spot so you know when one crashes on top of the car. It's clearly a practical model that ray fines with but again it's like your character's don't seem particularly concerned at all by these hornets flying through the air and they're saying things like was just a beautiful day in the country. It's like okay. I guess when they just sipping tea a moment before yeah. I would have been surprised as i was a shot at one point where he just posey's tee up from monday dash his and put down again as it keeps driving away from the bees but like teddy says bays sean connery. This film is strange. Man he's like not not be. Yeah yeah yeah well. I feel like i've i've got through my issues in the so. I think i found in my head where the problem is from talking to you. But i suppose that brings us to the question and it's a toughie isn't it. Yeah does nine hundred ninety eight. The avengers make the noc list no well. Hey no. this one's very easy like i. Don't think the filmmakers put this movie on the nocholas themselves. They both have a lot of issues with the form that existed now. They aren't particularly happy with ninety minutes. Slashed to ribbons cut. So yeah i mean the things that disaster narrative lee and I mean i'll say this much you said. Are you asked if it would be better remembered as a two our maybe two star movie. Maybe the answer is no. Maybe people aren't fascinated by this to star version. Maybe the and. I'm just assuming it's a version. But when the chemistry is like this and it's so full of puns. I feel like you're not looking at you. Know a great film at the end of the day. But i can only make that assumption but regardless i just feel like people are more intrigued by this film this ninety minute version than they probably would be by the two hour so i do wonder if maybe this is legacy continues because of that for me. This is a perfect example of studio interference. Ruining a film. But i'm not entirely show. The film was there in the first place. So is again a perfect storm of just a really really really really really bad interesting film Yeah yeah i. The norcross itself is kind of You know the best of the best and we've let things on as of example so we talk about amazon flint was kind of the example of the spy sixties craze. The spoofs. i should say not necessarily on the of the film being the best thing ever but it was kind of it was a very good example east anyway. No one should have to go through this in the processes of making a film. I feel bad for everyone involved as a blemish on their careers unfortunately. Yeah totally. Agree Well is no from me. And i know from new. And as such shockingly the avengers is not making. The noc list was celebrating. One year by inducting the avengers but cam we might still be able to induct it onto something else. Yeah yeah. I think this is worth of compensation now for those. We have a new list of the podcast. We introduced a couple of weeks back This special episode devoted to it. And it's called the disavowed list. This is a list of the worst of the worst. The pits the disgusting entrails of the spy. Cinematic universe the stuff that no one talks about. Is the dirty dark room films that we don't want to mention to each because it's a little bit too icky and some of the examples. We had on men back to men in black international. One of our dinosaurs is missing and of course two palmer tv films. They've all been disavowed. Because they are a blemish on the otherwise porcelain face of spy movies but is gonna be disavowed. I think there's a very strong argument for it to be. And i think it has a legendary status as one of the all-time mangled studio products. And i think the filmmakers would agree like this is not what they set out to make it all like. This is a completely compromised incoherent thing like a ninety minute film that it's very clear that they don't really have much of a connection to whatsoever so i don't feel like i'm kicking around someone's very personal final result so it's hard to argue like. I don't know that we're going to deal with many more movies on this podcast as completely run through the gardener by studio is this one. I'm leaning towards Yes for the list. My only reservation is that apart from sean connery. Oh i think it's quite finding this film. This also serves you think about like bad films in history. You think about like told me was does. The room has its cult status. It's so bad that people watch it like it's gone. It's almost back on itself and it's actually probably more popular than some other films that deserve to have a lot more is on it. I feel like a vengeance highs that kind of life now does it do people enjoy. It doesn't get talked about. I mean there's no getting around jeremiah. Chechik is not touring the film around while sending his underwear brand. So that's not happening. But i i feel like feel like film scholars. It's got son merit because you can look at it and be like this is the The epitome of students ferrets. That's not a good thing though like to me. That's like about as bad as you could hope for and that it's like because it's so mangled to movie for no one. The tone doesn't make any sense. The characters have no connections. The it doesn't make any sense like when you name the room. That's movie people have a lot of fun. Watching people get together. The people pay to go and watch the room together and laugh at it. I don't know that the avengers that funny watch. It's more like you're just watching a very expensive disaster. Yeah i con. I'll i was trying to defend it. I was trying to give it some sort of like to stand on. But i just there's like it got cold state is in that sense of it's just seen as this blemish of the nine hundred ninety of the of the nine hundred cinema. I should say it people. Just talk about vendors and snigger at the idea I don't know whether that means we shouldn't put on there because it's like the obvious thing to do or if we're going by our own rules it should be on there. I would say yeah. I think it should be okay. So you're saying disavowed. Yeah i just think if you're going to name a spy film that if someone gave you said name one of the worst spy films. I don't think it'd be long before you'd say the avengers i think it'd be one of the easiest answers really. I do too. Why do we pick it for the one year. It's because people think that this movie is very notable for being a mess. Okay i'm gonna say yes this disavows sucker. Let's do it. And also the executive order brothers in one thousand nine hundred ninety s. We'd like to add them to the disavowed list as well. Please don't make anymore spy. Y- you clearly have no idea what you're doing. Please get off the off the chair. Well it didn't make the noc list but it did get to yeses. And as such is making the disavowed list. No you're is a not deceiving. You did just hear a slide whistle in your now. We're using that noise as a rallying cry as our bat signal basically to listeners that the film is that bad. If it makes disavowed list. You're gonna to know about it. It's going to get to slide whistle. That's right and i've chosen these slide whistle because it scores the worst moment in the history of james bond. Which has these slide whistle decision that they play that over the car leaping sequence in the man with golden gun. Truly one of the worst moments. In james bond history luckily soundtrack to the slide whistle. Ns such we thought we would Take as our own. But it looks like the dossier on the avengers is complete and filed as disavowed. Goodbye and good riddance now cam before. 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Talkin' Seraphon Starborne

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Talkin' Seraphon Starborne

"Can i guys in is the coachee. We are talking sarah fine. We're talking space lizards we are talking about the jungles of darned dark dark prestigious. Like already guys plays plays plays We are talking old things. Sarah fun and we are talking to stop on a token that the ones that are probably kicking your bought at your next local tournament and i thought instead of hiding Instead i would look to the constellations and i would actually talk to the greatest slot that i know it is caleb hastings who is a very famous youtube About with sarah fun. And i thought to beat the apartment. I must understand the apartment Kayla had done a show with us before about the jungle side. We talked about the coalesced. And that's a really interesting lists around What are we talking about. We talked about. You know the old ones we talked about. You know some of source. God and we talked with some kuwait's stegar don's those market wrong office. So good i. I wish that is a day that i could run feral seraphin without any writers. I just wanna run up. People with just dinosaurs boxer. Caleb is gonna teach us the secret sauce to stop on the magical supremacy. The burning of the peasants and i'm super excited to welcome back. I welcome back caleb. How'd y'all how you doing ready to ready to talk. Some of the filthy skinks and how good they are. My gosh. that's look. I interesting to me and this is why. I'm really curious to caught cottam. I wanted to talk about this much earlier. That as you know the battle hymn came up. Justice covy hit And i know i was. I went to a tournament in australia. Fifty person tournament just as sir funds dropped and it was literally that can we hadn't had an faq just yet We haven't really seen them. Kinda hit the competitive scene and we kind of solving t t s. I wasn't show. How real life meta would play as opposed to online. Where i'd have to build paint and play with my buckets play with my models that now we've kind of had some time we've had some practice of its happening again in the world and we signed to see list. Cardiff hit the table. So i'm really. I'm really interested unpack with you. What is making them so great. How you're thinking about this particular build and more importantly how you avoided any faq nerves. I i remember watching your faq video. It is the most positive Only i think from memory you like nothing changed law. We have you know. I even did a video. Where i'm like okay. I think this is going to happen. We're going to get points increases here and here and here and nothing happened. So guys are loving got easier. We could just keep plowing along with with croak and lots of skinks ought amazing. I thought at least kirkwood. Get some crank avoid bullets Some bound spills. I thought this is not a wind guys please. i'm just I think you already very very good spot. And i think there's a lot of strength that you're playing to and i think you know if you haven't gone to lock tournament yet if you haven't actually played a table top simulator. I think this is the show for you to understand how surf on works what you need to disarm if you're against surf fund or if you're are fun player how do you build an optimize. The current rules set spits kayla. Talked coalesced before we're talking. Stop on what makes snob on so much. Powerful compared to the equivalent of coalesced. Start guys if you know if you are serif on their to builds. I guess you start a little puff hearing you either. Go coalesced stop on what makes stop on so strong. It's it's it's an interesting faction because men while when the when the book i out the new book we're looking at the war scrolls and we're thinking they've killed us. These girls are terrible. And it wasn't until we started seeing all these different synergies that you compile onto your units that all of a sudden it started clicking and say man you can do a lot with this army. It's quite flexible It can be on the board where it needs to be an. It has the octane to put out the damage and surprisingly skinks can be pretty tough now too. So you've got units. That are fast. Can shoot far can pack a punch and they stick stick around for a while and not all that is is really apparent on the war. Scroll but once you start adding all these energies to the army starts be pretty impressive so when you look at your other version which is coalesced. The coalesce to me is the destruction version of of sarah. Fun it is you build up something with some really strong synergies. You run up the board. You buy your opponent. You punch them in the face. You clothe them you get some blood stacking you get some Various different combinations. But you also want in the middle of the board with your high speed and just getting your face of your opponent the equivalent which is a stop on that we're gonna talk about is probably a lot more technical. It's more like playing glenn. Spy kids lumina thrown lords. It's got a lot of synergies a lot of Things to consider. You gotta really be hero phase You've got a lot of combinations but it's very technical and if you make a mistake whether it's a hollywood in mistake whether it's not thinking about role a certain time you can be punished end load Especially in stop on has a big talk on his head absolutely absolutely. He's he's by himself. Isn't that much of a threat. But once you add on his support cast all of a sudden he can he can dominate the board. You know he's he becomes that kind of god figure that you see some of the other big centerpieces in an army you have to. You have to be weary of them. You have to figure out how you're gonna deal with them or can you just ignore his spells for most of the game and try to deal with objectives and so once you once you kind of turn them from a three hundred point zero which is by himself to a six hundred with his cast in support. Then you've got a force it's gonna it's gonna radiate out on the board and so it it he. He does become quite scary that way and he can pump out a ton of mortals he can dominate the magic face. He's not gonna do anything else in any other phases. But you don't care because you don't need it. He's gonna he's gonna to command points. He's kinda that center point of the army and you'll see him a lot in the star born armies especially since he didn't get points greece's you're going to see him in a lot of born you might not see him as much as in coalesced although in coalesce he's okay. Degenerates you command points. Which you always need. But in in star born his is going to be center of the board in most of these games. Yeah i've insane some Storm costlas now bringing in croke. It was not all school really early. Stone costs would bring in load kirk or like the starts. Stop priced osc alpha king priest. They will there would be a key ally because it's not a lot of people who can ally with sarah fund and i'm not gonna say Being brought back. But you're with when you look at as itself if you haven't played with kirk yet guys you haven't caught up quite understood it. You might look at kirk and his art like yeah public to four hundred points like it's as he's got some coal strengths. That's when you start to look at the synergies and you start to overlay the stop on rules that you can really ten x his results very quickly with a couple of cases and i think that's the difference on his arm crocus or not but you can ten exit probably there's no probably no other the wall scrolling the game that taxes as quickly as you can tell. The design of them was made. You're going to have to play him. Risky. you're going to get them into combat which you don't want so that he has a short range area of effect spell that can explode multiple times. Somehow they forgot that there is a in serfdom that extends his range another six inches and then bail and vortex extended another six inches so now his area of expel was supposed to be short. Range is now a twenty two inch bubble that basically covers the entire middle of the board. Where where most of the action goes down in in war hammer and is going to be papa. Area of effect damage on a lot of units. So so if you adjoining these guys and you and not sarah fun player. I think the first lesson year you hearing a is. How do i take down crock. That funnily enough when we go through the list you might notice that croke is probably the first thing you wanna go through But certainly kirk is a key piece so if you're surf planet you protecting it. If you are a opponent you need to think about. How do i handle kroth. Who might be sitting at the back of the board. And kayla's been really nice as well to actually give me some fun as of deployment maps. That will bring up light up. But we're going to go through the rules. Now we'll show some demonstrations on how and why and what's what's important in particular builds and get the folks around will know we've got some battle traits here and as a as a coalesce just putting out of stock on i could not coalesced. Has you do have a couple of things so you can get yourself the contemplate complaint you cite fully of the ancient ones thank you. I said the sheriff as you pick one friendly salon and you can replace spell From the law of celestial domination table with a new spell so that mean this this this is awesome because most of your wizard heroes. They pick one spell to go into the battle with and here. This allows you to change your spell at the end of your here face to something else and so i always go into a battle and You're trying to take your most generic spell in case you or something that's going to both your army or something like that. I'm taking one that i can use. Turn one on certain armies. And if i'm not face against army at the end of my first europe i'm going to switch it to something that's useful for the army. I'm facing so. It's it's quite flexible. Lot a lot of Ability to change once you're on the table To to fit. What you're facing and i think you'll see that a lot in some of the seraphim stuff where you have flexibility in your buffs that you can hand out which is fairly unique seraphin. I think maybe that's a lot of other other factions. I know. I play some glue by gates and that moon is terrible. You never know where it's going to be here. We just choose what we want. So it's it's pretty useful There are very few obvious in the game. That can change this bill layout at the within the basle and i think that's k- lucky glimpse buckets plays for example. There's a an wrap your children that allows you to pick from your spell low but to be able to switch out. Gives you so much flexibility. Because you could do some damage dealing stuff at the start. They need to d- bossom boss when most people would have to pick one or two to get multiple cost in order to get multiple spells on the table. Yeah and and my mind. there's one spell. We may not go through all the spells. there's one spell. That's a horde killing spell called seller tempest and it. it is a great spell. You roll the dice for every model in an enemy. Unit and on a five mortal great for killing hordes and it has twenty four inch range and so from turn one. You're going to have a six inch buffon on probably your swan that's going to be a range of just about any hoard. You wanna do so. I always start with that one. If they don't have a horde which over to something else so incredibly useful yet flexibility. And i think flexibility in his army is incredibly strong. You're you're able to project you'll powell at really long range. Most people have multiple areas Certain areas on the table and can project power whether it's become that monster You know a a a move crush a start on it could be you know what gironde right now which is putting the Dropping down and just shooting from from relatively close range Down outside of nine and just shoot as quick as possible but you have an ability to project a loss of power from very far away and this is probably where things like skinks and things like. You'll you'll other choices outside of your. You'll lord cork bubble is going to be important to protect it. Kind of feels. Like when i played hollow hot and i'm trying to protect by juicy center as much as possible. I've got my hurricana of my wizards. I've got my the talian of. I'm projecting so much power that the minute that someone breaks by line of frequent god phoenix god. Whatever it might be you'll kill you. Kill that juicy site so easy to kill. They don't have an say that. I would want to be in combat and sarah to i guess the The poster child for that. I do not get close to me. Yeah yeah if you're charging if you're charging croak you gotta have a plan to take him out. 'cause if i get a turn and your within range of me on croak than you're you're probably going down the other rules you're gonna get yourself the snotty hero phase. You can pick one of the fit following a streams us you go to the great drake or you've got yourself the the hunt. St's hunt estate older. Save staffs are so this this flexibility. So you've got three major buffs that you can give to your arm and you're gonna you don't wanna have a plan with these as you're building your list. What am i going to turn one. Which one of these do i want to activate. The sages half is great for you. You know if if you're building a croak centered army. He gives them plus one to his casting and dispelling and unbinding And so you can add that to crow to give him even further higher casting. We taxing he guys. We've now started to like times to kirk already like we haven't made any selections alice jet and we just time to the sage stuff. Yeah a lot of our of our wizards are already plus one. So you croak pslon the troglodyte on oddly enough is plus one To cast and so this right here gives them just an easy access to plus two casts. Which you don't have to do anything all you gotta do is say i want that one. Pick one so it's not live. You can use pick one every time so it could be one cost or this one that you really need a certain spell off Or if you lose. That certainly said they'll give you another you law. I want that one now to get that. The plus one to cast. Whoa whoa pops to unwind. Yeah so a lot of times. What i'll do is i'm going to choose the sages staff. Turn one or possibly hunter steed hunter. Steve gives you plus one to run and charge. So if i'm trying to make sure i can alpha strike something i'll choose hunters seed to make sure i can get that plus one charge. You'll probably drop something outside of nine. It's i want to make that charge with plus one or if i just want an extra run some of my stuff gets running running charge run-and-shoot i'll pick that one So one of those is using my first choice and then as you get further in the game is you're getting combat within you say on need extra combat damage. i'm switching over to the great drake. Add matt to some big monster that i've gotten combat and let him let him go to bat without extra attacks. And because this is a battle trait that extra attack applies to the mount his weapons. You know everything on the malay profile there so it's pretty nice. Yeah that's brutal again. It goes back to. The flexibility can change a spills During the rounds you're able to change around some of the benefits whether it's good obey the plus one to the run and shot roles for sarah fun where there's going to be plus one your spell costing or dispelling which is really cool and all you could then get yourself on. Additional attack characteristic. That's that's so again. You got so much flexibility. In his office kind goes back to the complexity. All saying earlier is just choosing the right things at the right time and really being mindful of the different rules whereby interact I mentioned like a os. Reminders would be very important right. You have the amount of rules that you would probably fall from s- reminders just to kind of keep yourself in check. That's we just keep on wondering what i skipped. Iowa skipped ivan the coalesced side so we just had a rules come with coalesced but instead we do have some additional. Rules comes to the stubborn. So you've got the unfailing so stop one has bribery of ten instead of. What's on they will scroll. How impactful is that. It's pretty big. Especially something like your salamanders which have pretty low bravery and they'll in coalesced they're still crate Less but they will run a lot. Faster skinks or five bravery. So you you know those little. Msu unisys kingston coalesce gonna disappear quick but here and star born. We do have that ten bravery you should get your bonus for your hordes in bravery install born and so that's kind of nice those big hordes of skinks are going to have great bravery so at ten is that's great bravery for this. Yeah it's really good especially if it's protection either from battle shock all. I don't know how to as a kind of going to be impacted by the time. The things like mine rates which works off bravery characteristics very impactful to protect yourself. So you just. She's not his seat. Pay as often the other big pacey gonna get he. Is this massive massive. Long block attacks kayla. Maybe you can sit at me reading this out. Maybe you can help me about the celestial Congregation so yeah. So this is your summoning here. And they've the there is a wall of words your basically if your general as a sonner starsailor you get d three summoning Before you cast a spell the salon or an oracle which is the troglodyte on you can spend one of those spells to get another d three you get d three from your source astronaut bear so it sounds like a lot of ways to get some d three summoning point the honest. It's not nearly as impactful as it was in the previous battle. If if you'd ever played seraphin in the last battle thome and i played this way you would plan for something. I'm going to get this and this. Turn this and this darn i'm gonna i'm gonna pull in an engine of the god every turn back in the old book you could. You could do some goofy stuff like that here starr born ever game. I've played it's almost just kind of an extra bonus you know. Turn two or three. You might someone in some skinks. That's kind of all that you're gonna end up doing with the summoning here in starr born it. You can plan for it. But i don't think it's it's it's worth it's weight to actually put those units into and use your spells into that summoning chart. So if you're going to end up some some stuff. But i don't think it's worth like banking your strategy on your some name pool inside anymore. Is it worth sacrificing your spell costing in order to get yourself additional points. It'll be battle plans and apartments and obviously all these things are gonna come in play. You mentioned that. The the summoning mechanic isn't as important in the new book than it was in the old book but this is something that people should they find themselves not spending other. You're gonna choose you can't you can't say wants no left. I'm going to sacrifice declared the stop saying that a very specific on. I'm gonna cost one spell or two spells. So i will sacrifice so if i if i'm gonna croak. I'm probably not spending any of these. Hit me of his spells on somebody. If i'm running a pslon or maybe their uncle must we run a croak amazon just to give extra extra spells. Guess you need them. But usually doesn't have as as many spells as as useful as croak. And so you'll end up spending his on something. But i never gonna make croak general. So he's never going to get those d three from being the general on the on the board so a lot of times. I'll end up with d three from my astronaut bear. And that's all my son i get and so it will take me two or three turns before. Actually it's amazing in. Why would i'll be general 'cause i well 'cause he's an empty row so crooked. The name t. rowe so he can't take command traits. Take artifacts domina. I'm gonna. I'm gonna use those That commodity on something else that i can find a little bit more useful sets Raisin is luck you your lose anything else other than you just generic called halden artifact contact one of the commend traits from geography tail or Things yeah yep yep now. It's an interesting consideration. So i imagine most would think about taking cork as the general. But that's the trade off if you do an and if you do take us lawn like a aslan can actually be quite powerful now he's not going to put out as much damage but he can he can actually dominate the magic phase and especially blocking other people's casting better than croak. 'cause you can get up to two re roles for him in his unbiased and his casts and so he can if he if you build it right. That's lawn can actually be pretty powerful in. The magic face won't do near as much damage as croke but he can. He can really kind of kind of dominate that phase especially when the other teams trying to get their their spouse off so you can build that way but croak is just so. He's he's priced perfect. He's made it through to faq's so i i would definitely fit crooked your list. I've been here since the dot and day diwan crook has just been a nightmare. We had to the kirk nato Old bell invo takes us to double the spell range. Didn't used to add plus six with doubles. You just teleport kirk in the center of the board on vortex and then you just have owner of damage of annihilating everything and like okay to damage. He could come back to life or dislike killing on the other rule. Speaking of of slots are you do have the space in time. Which at the end of the movement phase you can pick one friendly starboard unit that is on the battlefield and transport it through space and time if you do so you remove it from the battlefield and put it more than nine inches away from the enemy so I can do that through combat as well. Contact in combat. I can just pick it up and moving around the board ole backfield or summoned something. Then put it around the not. Talk to me about this particular. So this i mean this rule right here is is one. I think the most impactful for starboard this. I mean i built entire lists on the previous book around their teleport's and this is the only teleport but we that we had access to in these and the south actions for for seven now and this one you need to have a plan for so at least turn one. Think of what you want to teleport because it's such a strong ability just being able to pick up something at the end of your movement and teleport it so that's you still have time to shoot wherever it's coming from you'll have time to have buffed it up so you can buff something up in stinted in. That's why i lord expects in time is odd to me. It's almost your salamander delivery system. This thing here is is. This is where you're going to put your salamanders with your lords space and time But if it could use for anything that's a wonderful thing is that you can buff up a hortus skinks and send a man to shoot. You can buff up something you need on objective or you don't have to that up if you get if you're looking to score jacobs game. I mean this'll this'll win. Games right here. Tell us over the enemy. There's a lot of things that break this down. it could be a started. The game you know bring bodies up much further up. The all day would normally be helped. Move or run. These could be light game pace. You know you might. You might have one or two skinks. Let's say you had a unit attend skinks and they got whittled down to two. Those two could still be a threat simply by using lots of space and time teleporting than once when objective that has been opened up. You can't zayn off properly because you know like denying to two little thirty at twenty five meal basis can be quite difficult you could use it to threaten can do with this or as you said the salamander delivery. I have a hatred. Solomon not the real animals they. They're wonderful little. I have pain for sally's We'll talk more about wide salva's jerks of agency. Teleporting is great. It's guaranteed seat at the cost spell. You also have to. it's not. It's not dependent on the general. So you know if i detect down correct by did take down the astros barrel. It's like i lose that ability. It's it's going to be always available and it does happen at into movement which is the same time that you're summoning shows up on the board and so you can late game. You finally got enough seventeen points to bring in ten twenty skinks bring him in the telephone and and and it can relate. It can really help you out. Yeah that's neat author last thing that we will. We will talk will record with further in a minute. But i wanna talk to you about the The terrain pace. You do get one of the two constellation so if you are stop on avi which we are you can either cheers to beta carotenes tail fangs of strategic. So by taking one of those two. You'll get additional rules. Command tracy artifacts the things that which talking about and why we wouldn't take the slot as the general Just 'cause we give up a bunch of things but we to talk about that too much yet because we will actually breakdowns. Calebs actually provided us two lists one for h. Say we'll break. We'll break down. The rules will talk about the rules in relation to the list. That maybe just quickly on summoning. Before i ask you about the race is if i've got a bunch of summoning port points. Is there any particular units that you like to some more than others other situations where you think about bringing on certain things You know is it worth while striving to go through a free engine of the gods zoll. You know a Source bottom console or are you more of a getting get. Get ten gigs on the table. Or what's your fault here I think you definitely want something that either either. Go for two one or two things bodies or something that can actually provide you benefit in the shooting face. 'cause this will happen at the end of movement so you still have the shooting phase. You still have charges obviously to abbots gabrielle set of nine so you want something that can shoot so I mean salamanders razors Always good summoning piece generally ongoing for bodies. That's what i'm looking for. As the game progresses if i can replenish the bodies that i've lost aboard so far That's that's to me that holds incredible value But something that can shoot if you had if you did build up to something bigger I probably wouldn't choose an engine of the gods but probably the Chief you could somehow get to thirty points I i have a soft spot in hartford. So if i ever had the opportunity i'm in one of those bodies for sure. I know what. I talked to other appointments. That have a similar mechanic Kosovo mechanic as is puppy example. I think corners and other ones a few obvious. Do these type of thing. I know usually bringing in more units alley bringing those ten gains bringing in Those are five chameleon skinks bringing in mold buddies quick you to score objectives allows you to screen allows you to challenge as opposed to light game trying to save up all your points and unlikely bringing engine of god's if you re read an engine accounts for example it hasn't been enough time to make a real impact so unless you have some crazy white. Gets you know a lot of points. Quick i find bringing mole chepe bodies and bring them on early will will serve you shop at all absolutely absolutely not just just for anyone who might be like free engine off. Just how much rewarded. How much time is it gonna take to get that bassey down. Oh my gosh still on says another not a fun to talk about but before we talk about your first list. I wanted to get your initial thoughts on your face. So as an allegiance. He guys get the room shape. The engine a does have some interesting mechanics. The first one is that it's it's put down on the table before sides determine so So it means you gotta put down his terrain pace before you know where. You're going to be deploying so i guess the question i've got from you is when you look your terrain pace. Is it important factor to your hobby. I know as a loon shrine plan for the gates. I you know. I'm to strategy terrain pay. So how do you factor in. You think he'd offensively defensively. You put it in the center of the board to be a neutral pace Like what are your thoughts on on terrain pace to be honest. I don't even bring it anymore. It's it's too random. I don't want to give my opponent something. He can put up to twenty wounds in a free garrison. And so if i put it right in the middle of where i would want it and my opponent gets that it's fifty fifty shot. I'm gonna get it or he's going to give it. Then i've just given him an incredible bunker to sit in into because my enemy can garrison in this as well as i can. They won't get the power unleashed. Which which kinda does it's basically a shooting attack out of this thing That does some mortals. He he won't get that. But you'll get the garrison so at in my in my experience. I just don't bring it. I've got mine painted up. I love it looks awesome. I've got like a led lights in it and everything. I don't bring it If i were if if you have this you paid for you wanna play with it. I would probably end up putting it in the middle but off to one of the sides. And so what i'm looking to do is maybe teleport. Some salamanders into it so that they are tougher to to remove or put in A chameleon skinks so that they get their plus pluses to their saves. 'cause when they're uncovered they have three sentences of six up so that that benefits them so i probably plant one flanks. The where my opponent can't use it at or if they could if they wanted to. But it's not gonna be as as as useful but to where. I can still put things in pretty easily. Turn one or two that. Can that can help my army. But i'm probably not going to devote the middle. I don't want him rush in something giant up into it and squat the the rest of the game. It's a gamble. Yes no i agree. That was kinda. I was kinda thinking. Because you don't wanna put it to aggressively thinking that you will get it and you don't get it All you put it down with a plan and you don't win the drop and then you lose it and then you've got to in quite quickly. What is mike plan. What am i gonna do and your opponent as you said a because it's a garrison that is sold little risk. You've given them something for free. It's nice. I've put a basildon down into it before. And that's a lot of funds you kinda you basically have a little pill box as basildon at you know modest one the hit. He's already a one up save which is a lot fun So it is a it's useful but it's a gamble whether it's coming to your sovereign up. I think i think the key that i wanted to bring out a you. Caleb was that have a plan. Have a plan. That if i put this down Where where is best for me or what. He's going to close the least grave if i climate If i did claim it what i wanna do because if you go to aggressively with your strategy you don't get it one you've lost it to your opponent can use it against you or even three remembering certain obvious. You can use it better than you off. So maybe i. For example of cao's got it. We'll cities of seek while they will have an absolute field a with that piece one thing i have seen some people do which is just a little bit strategy but if you put that up shaper engine in the back corner hopefully it lands on your side. If it doesn't then it's too useful might be useful to oh they like lemon up in the corners But if it's in your corner let's say you have a troglodyte. On in the middle of the table you can put your croak in that realm ship engine in the corner and he's able to funnel all his spells through the troglodyte on so there is some ways to make it useful. But you still a show whether you're even be able to pull off at plan or not. So that's something to consider. I highly recommend people bring it. But just have a plan and i think be too aggressive because again fifty fifty chance and there's nothing you can do to influence other than purely trying to like psychologically on you show electrolyte mind- minded next year. All right let's talk things sir tack. Which is your first list sir. with offensive soy take lists and they were going to occur the tail list And some people in preparation for this show had asked me. You'll thoughts on why they would Mister round with but hey. We're going to go there yet. Trolling you bit as check you all gonna get some cool rules and we will talk about the rules and where these kind of comes about. And i'd like to just in from you. How important are all of these. These things are all important. Building is a certain parts that are important to list building For example you get the first battles. You're going to get up in the first battle around posturing movement for your fencer tick skinks so skinks again again. It you're partial shot which the star committed ability at the end of the enemy charge phase if you do so pick one friendly things of search skinks units from the skink wall scroll or friendly. Fangs of sorts chameleon skinks a holiday. Nineteen of a friendly here. Are that skink. Old things can shoot so basically. It's like an overwatch it's A deterrent when someone chages you enough. You do. So roller dawson. Full plus That unit can make a normal move. Okay i mean you got some other things like our offense and grizzled command traits is not affect the serpent. God dugout sir all useful some of these attacks and how these old influence you'll list building. Yeah there they're all quite useful so at at this is one of those factions. Where just about everything that gives you be useful for the army. Maybe not the artifact. We'll get to that in a second but all the other stuff is wonderful so that i battle. So you're adding three inch moves to all the skink units and that's basically half. The army has the keyword skink and so your ad and a lot of movement To things that are they're not real fast on their own. They're eight inches which is good but that extra three inches of movement is going to get them to where they need to be. You've got a lot of a lot of things that can shoot that. Were to skiing. That you've also got stuff like the cavalry units like the tariffs that are already. I mean there are already screaming up the board and now you're at an extra three inches like you don't need any tricks to get these guys in turn. One moving nineteen inches turn one And then you still got the charge and so this this faction is can be incredibly fast. It's a it's an alpha strike faction you're gonna wanna hit hard turn one and this three inches of movement really help sat out. So it's it's great. You're not going to see a lot of source stuff in this list. You can't fit it in but really everything's gonna be skin keyword in this faction. It's obvious why you'd want to double down skinks. I think The coalesced is really benefiting you to the source path bought joe skinks really kind of becomes super strong but they become much better than what they are through things of sar. You get you. Plus three movement be great to score objectives early More guarantee on the charge. It's going to help you deny if you an opponent who Is likely trying to charge you again. Kind create some some more interesting strains and wives a lot you can do with three inches Movement to make sure. I said movement off to that because if i just said there's a lot you can do three inches kind. Got me somewhere. It's much being in. Three guys must be so. You said that that's good for you and of the things like shot Find the the ability to to shoot when someone charges you a useful to absolute absolute. So they did ethic you this a little bit To where it now happens when they into charged within three Basically what you would have expected it to be britain as they wrote it in a way that you could really abuse it to where you could just have a free shot. Regardless what happened now they do have to charge you and it only affects actual skinks and chameleons skinks. So those two war scrolls are the ones that can basically have the overwatch shoot to shoot after they charge and this is awesome. Because you're you're running these things up the board. You're getting close to your shooting and now to get to you. They've got to get shot again. And so it's it's one of these things that that without this rule. Thanks so tech would probably be okay. It would still be very good. This is one of those rules. That really feels oppressive to your tier enemy. Because they can't do anything so you shot him with two hundred ice on your turn and now they charge into your skinks and they're going to have to get shot again As the seraphim player. It's a fantastic ability. I love it but it is one of those things that kinda gives that feel bad to the opponent Since they're gonna they're gonna lose some models just on the charge. Come in india. I i play with frequent. Handgun is indeed shoot on the charges. Well if he ended in three inches on the sheet you in the face but venus pot. That's different between us is that full. Plosser are on a full loss that unit. I assumed that unit is your unit. Not the opponent can make a normal move but if it does must be a retreat. But can't ron so basically. I chop skinks. You shoot me You've then get a free movement away from the enemy. What's movement of asking eight. Eight your internal on you. Add three. So show sean. I mean there's not a lot of that can turn on chocolates humans to So what you're basically done so even if your opponent was three inches out for they declared the charge. You've gotta move of eight plus three because that the distance before combat really. You're going for an eleven inch charge and that was within three inches If you're going for a long bone charge you now. Can't charge you on that full plus. Yeah so yeah when they when they charge you They've actually 'end-of-life you have to make a move at used to say you can make a move which i liked. That changed up to you. Have to make a move so you do have to move out. So for the seraphim players. Make sure that your little small heroes at are buffing. Aren't right up next to that unit. Because i've done this before you move those units off and now your heroes are left right up in front of where those guys can pile on tax kind of that. Mind when you're when you're when you're putting your units on the board but this is crate and especially for those times that you need to stay on objective like i shot. Him moved a couple models now backing off. I'm going to hold the subjective and there's not really you can do about it And the great thing about this is is. It's wholly within eighteen of any things of so tech hero so it's not a general keyword anybody else so just any hero. You're going to have lots of little heroes and thanks. Oh tech and an eighteen inch bubble while it is wholly within is pretty generous. And so you can. You can usually fit quite a few different things in that eighteen inch bubble of any of your heroes to get this overwatch charge. It does cost a command point. And so you do need to make sure you save up for this so every time it's been in command points. I'm making sure that in their turn. I'm gonna have enough. That i can at least spend two of these parting shots With command points to fire off my my stinks. Kaminski's as the devil's advocate here as the person who wants to crush your soul. Drink your tears and annihilate use baseless. It's i guess what i'm thinking about with these particular rule if i'm going to charge a unit of skinks i don't wanna have the skinks as my only charge options. So should they use his parting shot. I would have the ability to at least if charge skins because of made it too hard for me. I can charging to a hero. I can charge into another unit said thinking about positioning thinking about where i could get an additional option. Who's lossing on. What i do is set up a charge and essentially file it. Because you've now an eleven open righto charged with a command point. And you've you've shot me so my unit is a little bit weaker than one wants so Charging that hero charging another unit escaping so charging a unit all salamanders. Try to try to keep that in. Mind you and you do have your pilot after your charge once you make the charge you to get to pilot and so when you're back in these guys up make sure you ask your opponent. What's their range. You know what's what your melee range in back. That plus three. So that you're out of outside their melee range but Yeah a very very useful ability in things so tech. Yeah it's a it's a. It's a challenge not one You got you on the two pieces which altern grizzly and you'll said god dad So this this command trade is. I like it but i also opt out of it. It is for a source general. And so if you don't take a source general in phase of so tech you can use a generic command right from the seraphin commensurates. And so that's really nice because there are some excellent skink command rates but this was actually pretty good to you. Know you'll generally have an astrolabe bear in your army which is source so you can keyword him as general and then on a three up. Receive an extra point That's that's great. You already have some abilities to get extra cam points. But you're gonna you're gonna eat through in this army like crazy and so this is a good ability to put on that source guy If you want some extra points and the flexibility of of all the different bus that you can use those components a good cool there is. A general is a sorace general. You've got attacked the old grizzled up. If you're not taking a source general then you don't have to take these speakers eligible you just choose. Something from the skink. Traits are good call at an finding. Got the serpent which you pick one of the boroughs melanie. Weapons at the at the end of any phase if any words inflicted by their weapon allocated to the enemy model and not negated on five cost. The enemy is slain. Who reads like an amazing amazing the ability. Fortunately it's going on things of socorro. Which generally your heroes and things us. So tech do not want to be in combat and i constantly end up with this on a little tiny speaking priests. That's just because it's gotta go on here on my first year of an artifact and it ends up on this you can put it on something like you could. You could fit a carnivore in there. That has a decent weapon. They lost you. That i was gonna ask you with that incentivize you taking all blood on a console ending doubling down on that source alden grizzled ability all. Yeah absolutely and now you have an ability to teleport stuff So you can in this army so you can create like a little assassin. Sorace that will go in teleport. You've got your plus one charge from constellation from the astros. Now you're going to try to get this guy in and basically stuff somebody in that serpent. God bagger this is you know like arche on slayer of kings basically your. This is an amazing ability. It's just it's a little tricky to use an fangs. Unless you're really just. I've got a beast akiro our put this on. I don't care if he doesn't have synergies with the rest of my army. This is what i'm you know. The stagnant might be my best option this because they still have the ski word and they have some synergies with the rest of it but Yeah you could you could. You could play some tricky stuff with these. This feels like a defensive mechanism. Not an offensive on a build. A list of china take advantage of this called daegu but if some someone some idiot wants to charge my little skink praised also have a crack with their guys still there they more crawshaw use a little stabby. Sorry go drac festive. Go you not longer in the game because you failed one word unfortunately still have to wound him with this little little skink priest. If that's what you got them on so that can be difficult. But you might be amazing. If it happens. I would spend all the command in the world to bring role cates. I'll just try to find every stacking possibility to to get that chance of like one shedding a tear. Gassed like if grizzle go double Kill the priest. You're like key king of the internet. They all useful that none of them are real taxes. But i think the good coal as well is that you don't have to take the source general Just means you just something. Different from the skin traits. Let's talk list. Let's talk what you've got the polio wednesday. Why why why have you chosen what you've chosen so the people who are playing at all cost the list is the fangs of searching list of the proteins tail will come after this with defensive. Sitek by the white people have said kayla. Am between the two accents that we have a texas accent. The australian accent stream what. You've got easy load. Craig with the Still tempest but we do know that we can change but crooks spells every time we have a source asteroids barrau. You've escaped praise to. He's the general with the must of star rituals. We also have ice king praised. We also have a skink stop raced that has the Got up and it has spell hand of glory. You've also got a skink. Stop raced also with the hand of glory. You've taken forty skinks with the burn. The bolts splitters. Thirty skiing's with paul splitters. You've got five source god. Fifteen chameleon skinks three salman hunting packs and bio in vortex probably other. Coletta's will folks. Is that sarah. Seraphin does have access to something called bound and spells. So that's a little bit differently you haven't paid for about ill spell here and we can talk a little bit about why when we get to it but you can't pay a little extra tickets some different benefits by taking and we'll spells in surf on how you only pay an extra ten points. Some your your found linton. Spills is beyond me. Jimmy needs that. Don't come back today really for ten points. I will take it every day in every list i will. I will find toys to jimmy. Come back at my face yeah. Boundless are incredibly powerful. Especially for ten points. I i constantly want three of them. Because you can take up to three in every list. Somehow they always end up getting squeezed out of my lists. I don't know why they are. Awesome it you can build some amazing lists around the boundless spells they are. They are incredible. And it might be worth ninety as well folks that if you were picking up If you're gonna try to pick up a vortex at the moment they have been out of stock for about two over twelve months. I think close to two years now. So i don't know if they're going to be relaunched at some point or if you're going to have to sail your first song to get one on ebay all gun with three d. printed but they not econ guardiola local gain. Stop store and find them off some type of proxy. We have the the north american headquarters here in dallas area tech dallas. Texas was where we're and they posted a picture on their facebook and they had it was like eighteen bedouin. Vortexes come in just randomly and it was it. Was you know people were fighting over. I think to get those bail when fourteen. I'm sure they're all gone now but it was. It was a madhouse yet. But i guess but i guess the point was if he like super inspired and gutty against workshop. You're not gonna find out for a long time so maybe find a three d. printed garcia. I on on ebay. Whatever it might be talk to me about. We total correct right. We've told them that. load crook. And how powerful kirk is you know. Just a supreme spill cost he just has a sheer amount of magical supremacy but also magic defense and just project so much pow from so far away at the court the court so crocus definitely an interesting character here he he is going to cause a lot of pain and a lot of lists unfortunately and it's got a spell that he can triple tap on he can cast it three times and it's an area of effect spell. You pick di three units within ten inches and on a two up. They take d three immortals. There's lots of roles to get through. You have to cast it. They have to be in range. You have to roll a to up than you. D three mortal stone tomb. So there's lots of roles to get through But it can do a lot of damage and your cast it gets harder to cast cast on seven and then a cast on an eight the second time in the no nine the third time which makes it really hard to cast but in most of these lists. You're going to be at plus three to cast crocus naturally plus one The the ashworth bear the source ask. Both bear gives a bubble of plus one to cast. She'll get another plus on their side plus two and then most of the time you're gonna take a plus one to cast from those astros especially when you have croak so you're giving him stuff sage riots. Hcf yes yes the. What used to be the constellations for the slot they. They adjust the constellations. And so you will most time. If you run a croak in kind of this build you'll pick fat especially turn on to get this going So it is short range But what you do. The actual bear gives you an extra six inches on that and then the vortex gives you an extra six inches. So now you're talking twenty two inches who cares. That's not hit. Turn one but you love lining croke up on the line most games and you're casting bellwood vortex out in front of you and so now you've gained an extra. It's like five or six inches or something because you can't that one inch away from him. The bedouin vortex so big. And then you get up on that. Now you can hit the enemy deployment turned one at least probably two or three units that they've lined up right there on the line You can hit those and sometimes you can even stretch a little bit deeper into it and you're just gonna pull those mortals onto it and it's hard to stop because he's casting it plus three He he generally in my experience hill hill fail one of those every once in a while that he'll get most of them through It is d three unit so love times your role one or two units so it's not real reliable But throughout the course of the game you're going to do a lot of mortals with this guy he also has. he has another spell. That is a board wide mortal and you pick either d three or d six depending on how how will you cast and those just do the three bortles too so on paper. You know if you're hittin. D six units for d. three immortals and then you're rolling nine more units for d. three mortals. I if all goes well it's it's a horrible experience For the author potent. So so let me let me let me just pose you then for a second. Because it's a couple of things on a call at one is that What's really good about this as well. Is that because you if it was a meta right now has so many chaos demons as well the you get a flat. Three damage as opposed to the day. Three so really. Good for the Someone like you know the lord of change especially with you change hosts right now in a really strong counted Change that as the opponent ought to talk about calebs camels bipartisan. We're looking at eight. The rue challenge with these guys in the reason. Why you wanna take these Kirk as quick as possible is that he has the ability in the matter of one. Turn to take any of your five win. Heroes most of our armies of filled with five five and six were in forward heroes that play a support role in some capacity. Whether it's tough whether it's a spell you know we don't feel our armies too many ten weren't heroes. We might have won it. Most people have some type of branch which funded came shauman A little battle mate. We all have these little ones and in a matter of seconds especially through celestial deliberates. You can pull my visits. You can pull my little heroes. So there's a couple of things that i can sit up one on probably not and a missile damon dragon slice. It is really well in the chat while the magic is quite good for sarah fun. It's actually the ability to deny your opponents spill costing and. I think it's the magic defense that sarah phone brings to the table. That makes me ask different questions. How do i tech. Down kirk when i probably caught deal-deal at mortal wounds from a fall because he's to hit on behind me and this ko become such a natural print-out to to to sarah fun that that rely on magic that can draw from the sky and then i can just shoot off A matter of seconds. I don't know if you've had that experience yet. Caleb but i imagine this is certainly one of your big natural predators are on the table. So i think the best way to deal with croak is you either have to strike. You have to get to him quick and start maybe not attack him right off the bat but start attacking his support pieces the source ashra bear Only has six wounds four up save. He can go down pretty quick so the reason we take the reason we take him down because he extends the smell costing by seats. Yeah it doesn't sound like that much but going from a twenty two inch bubble to a sixteen is produces quite a bit of the board range for him and it also removes a plus wanted to his cast for growth. So he's he's not going to hit as many spells and He does have a six up ward. Save in a bubble that he provides astro bear which isn't to croke cork has a four word safe but does help with some of the other pieces there so i would alpha strike if i can't get into them close a lot of a lot of times i'm putting croak right on the line cause i want to project that power as much as i can If you can offer struck him. And and i know that you're gonna strike. I'm going to end up position in him backwards. Which means he's not going to be as effective at dealing out damage so even just the threat of i'm going to get into chrome turn. One will make me deployed differently and bring him back further to where he's not gonna affect your your army. Turn what and i mean. It's really key point. As well as he does have natural full plus wind or moshel wind damage prevention. So he's gonna natural full plus alma safe and then anyone that gets allocated on a floor up unique. Know that so you might set up an alpha strike. He might set up in range. Whether you know you care you cities of sigma your pulse from from some type of ranch threat. That can take him down. Because he's gonna sit at the back of the borders as much as possible actually by bringing a fighter of the deployment stuff. That's y- once you've shot him down. He stood gonna four on the site. He has seven words so fifty percent saves actually coming to play. Statistically means that you need to do a lot of damage from faraway and he's even harder to kill the net because just about every list that you take him in is going to include guard is going to include five guard. It gives them some a blade of wounds. You can pass off to these guard yet. It goes off before his words safe. So you have as normal for up. Save on to up. You're gonna pass often these guard. And that's what they're therefore they're just an extra ten wounds onto the sea row that you have to get through before you can get to cook seneca to my point my point going to be. Is that a. You might be better off taking data asteroid. Barra you god the support paces i to reduce the effects of because you're gonna go through so much infants tank down kroth that you might have been better off taking out. Support pieces slept in an objective by skype. Deny you really miss you upset by taking support paces you really limit what it can do I've just brought up picture by the white off your fangs Deployment that actually might show an example of how you'll thinking about some of these owners of protections you send it to mesa maybe you want to explain this And why you should fighter. Yeah you can see here. I'm not worried about a alpha strike here and so i'm putting croak on the line. I'm cast and balin vortex in front of him. And when i do that i'm able to hit the The the screaming bell there with mortal wounds as well as probably both of those units of plague monks center there in the middle. And so i'm also able to hit with range that hord killing spell. So i'm gonna. I'm gonna really reduce one of those hoards down pretty far and so set him up on the while risky. If if you watched Seasons of war last video they got its croak. Killed turn one by heels so it can be risky But setting them up there really gives that power projection to the rest of the board Once he gets up on that bail wind and with ashu bear So it's i like him. You can always put him behind a screen of some if you want to. Because you have to put the the bedouin within an inch technically can put it over the top. the skinks since are twenty five mil. They are millimeters under an inch. So you can put it up on the other side the skinks if you want to. And i imagine salamanders the back is because of Loads of space and time ican usual celebrated deliverance package to bring them up in the night. Whenever you want tonight yes so in the list we have. We have a couple of different Of of power pairs here as as mccollum and one is croak. Absolute bear and guard and bedouin. That's that's six hundred point he wrote. That's going to do a bunch mortals. Now we've got our priests and our skiing Star priests those two. Little guys are gonna go with each unit of skinks and they they are what. Give the juice to the skinks. 'cause the skinks without those guys are pathetic. They will do. I think they'll do four damage. forty skinks will do like four damage without those who is and so they won't do anything but once you start adding these buffs the scheme priests gives them plus one to their hits. Skinks are normally hitting on fives and fives fours and fives. They also give this little. Seventy points skiing Priest here gives them plus one to their safe. Which is amazing. This is on a prayer on a three. At prayer he also gives them run and shoot and charge which is amazing so this one prayer. It's on a three out there's no way to. Buffet is just a role. Three you plus. You're safe plus one or Run and shoot in charge altogether and amazing for seventy points. They're what you can what you can pass out to. These skinks makes them a lot lot or flexible gives them incredible range and takes them from a five up with shields down to a floor up. So now you've got a skin. Core forty bodies ten bravery on a four up to save so and this is where we talked earlier about the difference between having bravery five skinks versus bravery ten and obviously for every ten models in a unit. You get an additional one point of bravery of battle shock. So should i get in the face. If there's forty skinks one number of spinning a command point to of command point to get them to shoot and then retreat Should i need to. I'm gonna do some damage and then you know Make your life harder to kill the skinks just difference here and this is again at the fact that we've got a couple of different rules at impact keyword skinks you can really say that your you'll incentivize to take a couple of skinks button. Zerilli all of them to source god. And you did mention a little bit earlier at that. Loan kirk can possibly some of those words chua source god instead of taking it themselves. Yeah and it's nice that the countless battling because at helps us save on points so it's pretty nice that way so lots of flexibility. Oh gosh it must have had some. There must have a lot of. Sarah fahnestock famous. You all y'all Time that out and you waited a good five years for an updates Have you taught me the sun so so this list. It has a max block of forty skinks. They're going to be rolling to attacks each when they're over fifteen units or models so you role on eighty basis. Somebody that's going to be fours you're probably in once a hand of glory and On the wounds it's five to wound nothing to that but on sixes Because of the star priests they'll be mortals and so you're star. Priest has a just free ability. All he does is point his staff at somebody not a prayer. You don't have to spend anything for us pointed at somebody and now they're doing sixes To wound are mortals and normally. That's pretty bad. Unless you have a ton of nuts and here you have a ton of ice and so let. Forty blocks kinks. It's it's gonna do about fifteen sixteen damage which was a forbes save and a lot of that is mortals and so you're you're really fishing for those mortals. I was gonna say because when you look at those whether you take the javelin old old spinola you hitting on five's to about fifteen fifteen or more you get the plus one when attack karl task so so you really fishing for bortles as opposed to trying to get because there's no brand damage. Fives winning on fools. So you didn't do a whole lot of nothing but when you start bringing more souls you studying i now to to short supposed to one. That's nasty. It's just a way to dice so that one skink that forty block is on aid. Is the thirties thrown sixty. And you're fishing for those mortals of the wounds and you'll get about half of those through so on the wound role. You're you're looking for forty dice. Sixes are going to be mortals. So you're gonna do a lot of mortals with these guys bring in. this is from the skink star priest. He has a a staff that just he pointed at the skates and says you get mortals. So that's pretty nice And that is the key to the army if you're looking at a way to to reduce the effectiveness of these thinks looked that little five wound hero. He's got a five up save. He super fragile. He's the one you want to target. If if you don't have a way to just kill the heroes you might suffer here against us army But if you can kill off those star pays. The army loses a lot a lot of juice. I was gonna say to stop Skink prey yet price on. Where's motorist stoppers. And is that. Is that why you've got two copies of hand of glorious. Well more for redundancy and just because they've only got five words of pace gonna five off apas safe. They'll go down to a stiff breeze. So is it. Dan for redundancy more than anything absolutely hand glory is re-rule hit rolls of one. It just it just keeps me from having to spend the command point. They have they have a natural spell. That is amazing. What you're getting close and it reduces the target within maybe twelve or maybe eighteen remember It reduces their saved by one. And so once you get enclosed with these guys. You're probably switch off hand. Glory to their war scroll spell which will reduce the targets. Save by one so a nice old natural speller. Do you think it's worth making skinks. At least maybe one of your Skinks to half the The moon stern club as opposed to the decades. You could you lose a starbucks players which gives them the five up save so starbucks will give him a five upstate instead of a six up safe and with the skink priests a lot of times. You're getting that extra plus want so. Now they're a four up and their heart. They weirdly enough. These things become a little hard to to shift. Once you're there at a four up save You can create some malay skink lists that are actually pretty good. You give them the you give them the club's instead of the shield and give them a a steg on is port who will give him an extra tack in malay and all of a sudden these little guys are basically plagued bucks with the shooting attack. So you can. You can make these guys in a pretty awesome malay but i like the extra save on these guys. It just comes natural from the shield. Plus i had like a hundred and twenty built with shields from the previous books. I'm not changing. Thank oh fickle soon told pal pays we've got kirk we've got the astrolabe barrel and we've got the source. God that's out little power coma. We've then got the two units of skinks nagel be supported by a skink stop priest. H yup yup escape recent escape. Star proceeds will go on with those blocks of skates on. You're choosing usa h. Block skinks will have both a stop priest and the priest with them yet to little heroes. You'll pretty much always see those too low heroes trailing right behind your units skinks. They gotta stay wholly within twelve scott. Hello and follow the damn. So they're gonna they're gonna run up there with their same speed. So they're going the same sting distance. They are Your be running them as well. And keep them up with those skanks and they're gonna they're gonna stay there in buff so if you can take those two little heroes out then. The skinks should be pretty easy to deal with as long as those to stay alive. The skinks are going to be a huge thorn in your side. Yeah this precisely have full words a five on the site but we look at the abilities of the stars stone stuff which a three plus allows a unit to run and still should charge and it as possible onto this save roll. It makes one a block of gerbil skinks than al on four up because if the shield up to the ability to run shoot or run a charge Underestimate that that is is powerful to get your buddies around the board quick retreat. That can you just run. It's just run-and-shoot running charges not retreat retreat as well like managed to be nasty and this this actually pairs really well with the fangs of so tech. And if you go back to that picture that showed the deployment and some ranges here this. This adds to their range. So you're you're skiing are lining up there on the line They've got an image move. They're having the plus three move to from things. Now you're going to run and shoot and charge if you one of the charge by not going into but run-and-shoot with these guys If you don't roll a six. I'm probably going to spend the command point if i need to. But you really don't really need to Whatever they run and then plus one to their run because maybe we put the The constellations two plus two run and then they have a sixteen inch shooting attack. And so with that I think your range is forty six inches. And if you know about the table here like this is including twelve inch deployment. A table was only forty eight inches deep so the opponent has about two inches of space at the back of their board from your skinks and so these guys are going to hit just about anything they want to on the board. It's really hard to hide from the skinks. So they this. This is one of those things where they already have a lot of abilities. You can pile extra abilities at now. They're going to get to put their threat range pretty much. They want to now if they do fail the prayer from that skink priests so they don't get to run and shoot. That's okay. i don't need that extra six inches in things of so tech that extra three inches that i get from things of so tech gets me enough range to kill whatever he's got on the line and probably whatever you've got just pass line so it's a it's it's an added bonus here getting that spell off if for some reason they've got something out of range and you've got your boss but you didn't get run in charge you know. Just teleport your skinks wherever you need them. And they'll be there so it's it's really hard to hide from these guys Which makes which makes the first attack from this list quite deadly which is which is why you if you wanna beat sarah fun and you are gunning for the top tables. You need to have an answer for some of this stuff. You need to take their support. Heroes as quick as possible because they're not very durable. They're not very good. You can take them down. But it's it's getting the jump in front of them before they can act. It reminds me a little bit about how you cut it. Petrifies soleil opr When they were at the heart in power you wanted to get them turn one before they could use a whole bunch of boston supports the their support paces so Thinking about one hey can take down those heroes Not relying on magic unless you take less on the gash Or hallo hot trying to get like a plus age on your cost. You've really gonna stop thinking about things like high wind high volume of attacks. Whether it's a big things like your you hire cane crossbows along strike crossbars whether it's gonna be look even cd's a sikh mall a lot of people who using your rights to kinda come up the board. I relying on the screen bridge to teleport that. Big block of andrei that strategy of getting that that that That bridge up a whole lot hotter against us so it's not as reliable strategy. Missiles has some redundancies. Just in case for some reason you've deployed in a way that i can't reach with my skanks that's what my chameleon skinks. My salamanders are four This list is is designed kind of as an alpha strike list in those commands. Kingston salamanders helping the command. Skinks taken fifteen here in one block. It's a pretty big block They can start off the board on deployment so there in reserve and they pop up anywhere within nine inches of the emmy or outside the nine inches of the enemy. And they're shooting. They have to attack each so there. You're thirty dice and sixes. We'll do immortal. That's kind of what you're fishing for they'll do a little damage or otherwise but basically that's you're you're able to snipe off some heroes here. They have a sixteen inch range on their shot. So they're dropping a nine have sixteen range shooting You're able to to kind of scalpels off the support units. That might make the other team good. And so these kind of using that way. But then we've also got the salamanders that are we talked before our my teleporting target. And so what are probably doing is. I'm going to buff these guys up with with a star priests priests instead of the thirty skinks. I'm gonna leave. The thirty seeks to kinda capture an objective. And then. i'm going to teleport. These salamanders so turned one. I'm gonna hit you with forty skinks rolan eighty secchia. I'm gonna hit your with fifteen combined role in thirty days set. You and i'm gonna hit. You salamanders which are just crazy do a ton of mortals the of high rent. They're going about two weirdly These things are amazing so this list is going to hit you extremely hard. Turn one It it it. I think mast it out. I think it's going to do about fifty five damage versus a four up. Save turn one and there's really not much you can do about it if you give me turn one So it's it's kinda list that you don't really wanna play this against your friends unless you don't like your friends so it's well more he if you don't like having friends if he liked not having friends. This is the list view. And the reason why and i was watching. A recent episode of wine await lead. Been trela though. We're talking about some of the things that create the most negative game experiences and seraphin i think has some of the top ones a are oppressive in movement their oppressive in magic and Just some of the author abilities just stops me from doing. I wanna do so. I miss you have and builds a ma. I imagine karen. I've lost i mentioned is is already one maybe An angeles ein sons were. I'm like a turn one stained growing with some with the more crusher and getting your face early other than that is a very few obvious that would actually shrugged his shoulders. And it can't 'cause you will stop me from doing what i wanna do. Which is type replaced. Yeah the the key. If you're looking at a way to defeat this list and this is most things are going to be somewhat similar to this with with probably command skinks Changed out for something else or you'll see a little variants here and there may be some a boundless bells very similar big hordes of skinks croak kind of as a centerpiece You have to have a way to get on them turn one. Don't give them turn one or if you do. I mean back all the way up and maybe black behind your screens. Put a screen on the front line back all the way up. That will say a little bit opinion but then you get out of the game so yeah you might avoid the damage but you will not then score because you've got these been skinks teleporting through The loads of space and time. So if you can hit this let's turn on. I mean a lot of trouble because if you can alpha strike me. I have no command points in this list If you hit those skinks those blocks hard. I don't have any. I can't do the parting shot. I don't have a command point to spend on that. Even if i did apply spend it because of they. Just be fives five. Haven't buffed up yet So you're you can destroy a lot of those things. If you can get into that you could take off the Star priest i would focus on those star priest before it even focused on croak to be honest there. Give a lot of damage to those skinks Unfortunately probably have to deal with the salamanders and chameleons no matter. What you do salamanders gonna him to where you can't get 'em at chameleons are off the board so you will have to deal with them but if you can if you can put pressure onto those skin cords turn one then you could put me on my back foot twirl half. I'll have to end up point stuff in my own zone instead of pressing ford. This is designed as an alpha strike army. If you could do that that to me turn on Take that turn it. Hit me hard. Then then you'll have a good chance. I think the other thing to call that sell manages is So the salamanders hunting pack comes with one salamander and is it bergeret three skinks slowing in this list. For example. while you've got three salamanders as you have an additional nine skits that's eighteen wound unit. So it's it's pretty nice. Yeah correct so what i was going to say. Is that if i deal. Damage to the salamanders you'll just gonna take off the skinks. I and that has no impact bearing to the ability off. The performance of the salamanca still have attacked. They steal hit on threes. i still wouldn't on threes. They still have rain to. They still have day three damage. And if you roll a six to hit that Three mortal wounds instead. So it's high wind high damage. They've only got twelve twelve inch twelve inch range which is perfect for the teleporting with lows in space and time So you go. For the salamanders you're gonna take them down quick otherwise they just gonna take the skinks off and it's not gonna impact. This element is at all yeah. Yeah the salamanders won't will continue to be a threat there what's going to teleport around the board they're good in shooting and melee So they will be. They will be a priority target Think i'm trying to put pressure on those increase. If i can turn one just to reduce those hordes ability And plus. I'm gonna i'm gonna like if you look at that picture. The salom running back. They're going to be behind. My lines screened off. Because i don't care about getting them close. I'm gonna tell them. Yeah you see him kind of down here in the middle Back behind croak and stuff. So they're going to be hard to get to unless you can come in from the side. But i'll screen them off to make sure that can tell him where i need to and look. I realized feeding for anyone who's listening. That isn't a serif on player. And you probably see feeling a little bit deflated. I realize this is a tough match-up this is Unless you applying in the upper echelons you're playing with some of the strongest odds right. Now i am mentioned something like the lumia throw lords with the annoying the uk they playing with some lists that have up to eighty wardens Blocking like no line of sight just doing mortal wounds. On the sixes. It's those types of bills that can project how emotional words from range in your shooting phase ninety nine magic bidding shooting face. They're the ones that probably deal the most damage of most concern to aseraf on all as you and one charge me with start hawn's whether you're more crashes some type of out the strike i deploy thas again you face i and stop you before you can get your abilities and uc ps and You power up because she didn't turn one It's gonna be tough. Yeah i think is a great answer for this because especially because they had that spell that will cost us me to command points for every time you wanna spend the command point which really hurts us. Army that's luminous that has at and so luminaries. I think a pretty good answer this because i'm spinning camp crazy in the army. And they're gonna they're gonna make it to where i can't do that and then they're gonna snipe off my little guys from far away so fun. Sarah funding isn't unbeatable. It's not like out. Perfect guys Butting you need to think about your strategy. And i think you need to have a hot loss the first time. And then you think about your appointment and this is way of bringing down your deployment drops as quick as possible. Caleb doesn't have any battalions for example. So if you have a battalion is a good chance that you'll going to get to dictate. At least i turn. But it's can you project your power early Or do i need to bring something eighty-five trying to compete with the tables than i need. A catapult a native rocket launch aid There's ward's i need something that can project Power from a very far away Any anything else you want to add this list. i see. i think. I feel like we've covered most of it. I think we're sending his list for less than allah. It was good because we have. We've really gone through the synergies and how they worked. And how you're using them as well as we've taken the other side which we don't normally do he did have a look at had a beat them what you need to consider up. We've had some pretty robust discussions Yeah yup that's it comes down to the old trope of just shoot the heroes a if you can do that. That's that's one good way to take him down and guys. He can seize invitation as well. If you wanna bring in needs down geminis for example you wanna not take the chameleon skinks. And i i saw in china. I think it was vido asking about your thoughts on a a console. Like an old blood connoisseur. If you want something more makamba combat eight stick something that kind of gets into your face. You could always bring in something like that. Oh across ago still adult you could still bringing things like seasoned to taste but really the coal pots of his particular list is going to be one the combination between croak the ashley barra the the source god and wind as one little legal combo otherwise role of your skinks euros at bringing the priest and the stop raced Whether you take one two three blocks you trying to keep that whole holy trinity. Yep yep and you know. It's been a while since we talked about it but looking at that deployment when i bring all these things up. I'm doing all this damage. The frustrating part about this list is when you charge me. I'm doing all that damage again. And so that's that's part of what creates this this kind of feel bad experience with this the things so tech in that I'm doing a ton. David stern one and that if you're charging me At in your turn doing damage again. So yeah yeah. And i imagine i imagine a doubled. Turn from sarah vaughan. Just pack up and go to the bar it's I can be pretty nasty so brutal. Not saying he cut. Look you caught. Wind bought a much power. Prediction comes out under forty. Two wins two thousand points on the whole six latest shots Slots no surprise and only wine will spell and up basically guys the one thing that you can do and is sarah fund has the ability to have boundless spells. You pay a little extra but the big thing is that you only you can control them and There's one particular spell that serafin has. I think it's long that has access to the spillway. You can dispel all spills across the board unless they're bound bound side of the main jimmy compact against you it made. If you had the burning head your opponent. Kat move back against you. Anything that has the predatory spell copy used against you if it's bound sawyer for the additional ten points Incredible value. Because jim and one d three damage freaks jimmy as well as the hit. Oh modest one damage Attacks attacks. Like i just nasty and seventy points and come back to me This this nothing but high value and no res-q the if you're looking for an alternate spell for the skin the skin a great one that you can actually capture somebody else's endless spell so if you don't wanna bring your own endless lascelles just let somebody else cast on in the new capture it with your skin can send it back to them. Yeah i need. This is the The maybe i'll once linked coup so that is are pretty worried about discussion when it comes to the fangs of checking. I imagined that This one will be a little bit quicko regards but this will be a little bit quicker because the core of the list will be very similar but the difference differences between things of searching andrew curvy entail and what makes each will be a little different. So what i get with my and the good thing is is kayla has given us a little deployment for this one as well. So look at this. Hashtag contact Locking as well guys linked below we do have odd calebs channel. Go check it out highly. Recommend it here's a very knowledgeable guy for everything that's not thank yous jacuzzi and tell you get a couple of things. Same deal you get yourself in. Ability is over command. Trained as often artifact the ability is quite wordy. Caleb of mike huge to give me a high level view of what the app that appears appear on command is Imagine storm cast. But you have to be within eighteen of the lawn. That's basically at so what you can set up half your units in the end reserve and then they come up that come onto the board within eighteen of on and so outside of night of the enemy obviously so this is kind of affection that you can fit a lot of things in like whatever you wanna play if you play star born. But you don't wanna play things you don't wanna have hordes of skanks you can play here you can play Here could on stuff you to source warriors and you want to get them further up the field than they can walk on their own. This is a fun one to put them in. You can all of a sudden just make appear one hundred and twenty warriors. If you want to you can make appear bunch of karna carnivores and so. There's a lot of things that you can put into the sky that you wanna keep safe turn one and have dropped down in the in the middle of the battlefield On your turn and you don't have to do it. Turn one you still have access to to teleport's and so you can teleport. You're slow on if you wanna bring whole bunch of stuff in somewhere else So there's a lot of flexibility here and that you can you can set step up. Step up around your swan On the board so pretty fun stuff action. You probably won't see a ton and competitive play. But i think there are some pretty some lists. You can make that a pretty competitive. The one i brought today as a little bit more fun but it does have some unique flexibility and that that You can you can have stuff on the board where you meet it. Yeah i shut. Shut up to one of the boys in my dream who i played him in. Teach with this particular Built and he was a very friendly opponent who puts three units. All our twelve salamanders in the spotting office congressman and. Luckily i still phoenix scott. It's they still earn. Aided all the scott just that rogue is for everyone unit. It's on the table. If anyone doesn't stone casseroles for one of the table get put wanting results. So if you've got a five people would attend droplist. It means you could put five units in reserve and five units on the table. So think about that way so it could be a way to you as long as you're bringing up by the full-fat around as well so you could bring in turn to three full osso If it's not set up the full better one. Two and three one to reagan's down so it could be going in protecting yourself against cagliari for example Equipment you have some type of threatening unit at the academic board for an objective interns ray Could help you with some of these paces down attractive wannabe fast enough sir. If you need more than one teleport these could be for you. The one the one weakness At least he'll of this list is that if you're slung gets killed all those things that you have set up the board cannot come on the battlefield so you better make sure you don't get your swan killed turned one and like half of their armies left off the table so apply for that is it. What is it worth keeping his slot off the table. Nikon your song has to be on the table. But if he gets killed all those units that you have set up in reserve coming there frequently. Candidates is killed. Def so interesting. What about the command. Trait and the artifact you've got the ancient knowledge which The general knows one extra spell from the spell law and you can ring role. One cost to spell unwind in h hero. Face that's pretty sexy Yeah this one's nice that you can. You can take this and this make if you're taking a regular slot which would be one that can that can get this commensurate Now he's got access to another spell which gives him some more options. Normally you end up like cast mystic shield or something with them. Because you don't have enough a spell or to cast this case you have another spell and you get a role One casting dispelling and unbinding which means this isn't just in your casting phase. This is in the enemies casting face as well and so you have some flexibility there. You can't if let's say you have a battalion. There's another mantra can give you actually another re-rolling to your casting snow in with list. Aslan can be an incredibly powerful caster if you want him to be re rolling two spells to unbalanced dispels. Its can be pretty nice. Seekonk ray roller railroad by could have to re roles in divinely. Someone's throwing like. I know when. I play against sarah fun. I love to take the color from storm cost. It doesn't damage as well as nino reduces the costing of people within range. You can on buying that pretty easily. You could start your apartment costing day important bus spills or teleporting or summoning something spell not an ability. But i get his of just keeping your opponent at by finally got the artifact that god based papin pendant so the first time that the berries slain removed from the battlefield on a roll of a one-two-three i'll slaying on a fortress six and not slain and old wounds are healed so really noisy incentive to have the unnamed slung and. Take them on the table longer. Yeah this this is. this is the knowledge of. Don't get your slot killed. So here's a chance to bring back and be fully healed Yeah it's it's good. I like it i. i'm gonna be honest though. I'm still not taking a regular lawn with crumby in this cheap Not getting faq to hire. I'm probably going to put him in this list. And then i can opt out of this command trait and put a different command trade on something else. 'cause we have some some pretty good Especially for skinks. And i would almost opt out of that To to to keep talking this list and get something on a hero against mutual channel by the way guys. So if not taking you out but either way They know they know our need. My little channel telling them ever spoiled the party. That's what have you gonna miss. Lewis said he sees the tien list. There's probably going to be a lot of commonality folks that we talked too much. That in-depth religiously despite about these units already but my call at some of the key synergies and some of the things that we We haven't talked about yet and there's certainly one thing through things already. I say that we haven't really spoken about so do have load. Kroth is the still a to same spills we just previously had. We actually bear with the base pendant. That's a the jacuzzi entail artifacts. We have a stick it on skink chafe which is the general command trait nimble the perfect cloak offenders and the whipping of the sky streak boat we have in my opinion Met crop circles great again six critical intense kings ten skinks and ten source. God we also have a stick it on with the us. I streak bone and the constellation of fund elicit We also have the same old gotta to the how to to stay on with discard straight bar and serif on the line It is funded quake star Battalion we do have chronic cokes. Again coming it two thousand points at the nose for a hundred and seven words this a little bit different in either lost list just looked old skinks. It was just spam across the board. Now we got some based we got some stickies we've got some proxies and we've got Still we still have the holy trinity although you have bailiwick you've got cops. So that makes this narrative list right. Strike fundraise meet overseas like to so so indroko themes tale You know you're looking to deliver something up the board or deliver something onto objectives My favorite unit and seraphin is the stegeman. So i'm gonna figure out a way to deliver students into the opponent's face turn one so that's what this list is about. So you've got croak and the bear and it added mainland vortex. His range is only sixteen inches. So you won't be hit anybody with those those mortar win bombs turn one now you get a mixed in later But i did take ten guard in this list just to give him an extra wounds so that he doesn't get killed. Turn one so that. I can still bring in all the fun stuff from decree liens jacobean style. So stuff i'm bringing in is Three stugotz johns and six. Or they're going to be in that battalion they're all part of that battalion. The thunder quick star-crossed. Which isn't nearly as good. A thunder quake battalions lump co lescott. What it does it just allows you to heal one wounded in the hero as not great but it lowers my drops. It gives me everything on the in the battalion. And it'll help my stegeman ski chief here a stay alive a little longer because in this list he is pretty tanking so he is my general which allows me to opt out of that command trait that i'm giving them nimble that gives them plus one does move. Also plus one two is safe Which is an awesome commensurate there And so he goes. You say he's saving will go to. He's a four up naturally Against five or fewer models. He's a three up At the at the at star combat face against say. I'm gonna point my staggered on helmet at you and now emma. Three against that unit so with nimble is now a to up against a that target that you're looking at Cloak feathers is pretty awesome because it does allow him to fly. it gives them plus florida's moves and i always plus five move And he's minus one to hit so that that artifact is amazing. I would say any three of those on a normal artifact and we get all three of them on one artifact so You can take the staggered on helm artifact on him which would give him another plus one if you wanna have to up steg on so you can go that route. But i do like feathers. Because i'm going to try to make a good charge if i row really high on this charge when i bring him in he's gonna fly over something and hit that that priority target. I what I am putting. All three bows the muslim these guys on the second one's pretty incredible bo. Twenty four inch range Three tax breeze in threes and does three damage each so A pretty good way to snipe off those little little support heroes And you also do models on the charges while. I just wanted to check the rules to make sure that yet and need to charge within one on a three plus you day. Three modal were inside. Yeah so the. The object of this list is to you can end thinking bring up that deployment You're gonna you're gonna cast cogs. That's pretty vital. If you don't cast cogs which you know you'll be plus plus three to cast. You should be able to get it off. Sukarno called colts plus tutor movie running. Charge a movie josh. Moving mass been sending long since paid by cops. So you'll be plus to to charge so you're bringing these guys in holy within eighteen and you can kind of see that shaded bubble there and it's a pretty big range that you can bring stuff in around the slog saab moved him up a little bit my hero and my boobs face the the croak and you're able to you're able to push further than you need to so if you don't wanna put the slot on the line you don't have to You can you can push them up a little bit afterwards But then i'm dropping all this in nine inches away from their army. I've got cogs. That's going to give me. Plus two. If i wanted to roll the dice and try to cast cogs on only a plus two to cast you can give the constellation to plus one to charge so that now you only have to make a six inch charged with these guys. That's quite doable. Especially when you'll have quite a few command points and you'll have some rewrote so These guys should not be getting into combat. You're gonna shove three segments. That are all pretty tank and then six crocs which can put out quite a bit of hurt into their into their faces turn one so a narrative list. I think but if you're going against like a An elite army. These are going to be against this army here on the table. You probably won't fare very well. The gore will do amazing against plague monks But you'll probably get hit pretty hard by those plagued box against this segments. This list right here is a lot of fun. Whatever you wanna bring into a starboard army drako themes token fitted and you can deploy it almost anywhere. You want to have a board. So it's a lot of fun and You know when when caleb talks about it being a narrative talking more of a fun list because it would be easy to just grab as i mentioned taught dream Again looking at you friends. Dropping down to three units off salamanders and because they're gonna be outside of nine inches from an enemy but the shooting attack Tonight year with is wealth rate for tax age threes in threes ren to daydream three day. Three words or all a sixty hits. It's dave three mosul. were insert. You could just absolutely obliterate align with saleh's we haven't talked about Still add ons at all We haven't talked about rip deductibles or john's cermony options you've got. He took the engine of the gods asia. So you can really play around with a high movement List and Brutally honest crocs goals and probably some of the worst choices you can make right now mostly because can't seen address crops. Go with anything like there's no way to make krsko any better than they all. Yep you get you get a plus one at within range of some skinks. But that's about earth ski word which is a lot of but it's not enough. There's not really lot you can do to them. They they are. They are fantastic and co less than thunder quake and all that kind of stuff but here. I'm just i like the crocks. Some put them in this list to have some fun show. And i'm not saying that they useless but when you think that everything we talked about whether it was a loss video when we coalesced and really just maximizing sorace with the the benefits of the old blogs or talking now about the synergies. We've just talked about skinks. Send some of the options that are available when you compare that the crops go ago they they will take a lot of words I have. I recently played a coalesced version. With block of nine cox goes or make it hot heat hot but they don't see the giants as well as a source with you know in all blot and battalion the thunder quake stall host. That is your engine of the gods or Sticking with skin chafe the unit of of crops gold hunting or or hunting. Pack which would be a unit salamanders and then to still john's all stig adulting any combinations. If you didn't want the stickies and you wanted to still don's or if you wanted the hunting. Pack of salamanders or what's the other ones are raisons is it on the You can always build around that and have a similar field again. Season taste. Do what you wanna do and in your hero. Facial he'll one hour to each of the units in the talian if within Friendly pslon they would heal the three so nice way to keep up this big based tease. It wouldn't he'll back any of your cell. Wouldn't he'll back in. Es skinks that died from the salamanders by would be a way to heal these multi wound models. Yeah this a jacobean style is is pretty Pretty flexible you can put a lot of stuff in it I've seen some pretty crazy lists that that. Have you know to salons in it that that you can put stuff all around the board on and so if if you dig deep into drako theme sale if you don't wanna play fangs but you have a lot of the stuff that goes in star born There is some deep stuff that you can do in jacuzzi and sale with deployment shenanigan type stuff. Where i'm pulling stuff out of the sky putting it forward on the board You do want to try to minimize if you're trying to make those charges you wanna look for ways to increase that charge range which we have access to But a lot of it's kind of a place and things on the board in places so maybe maybe a rapid fire white. Finish the show again being conscious of time and and how data we've been especially without firstly defence checklist. There's a whole bunch of things like this is a quite Battle time you got a lot of options that we haven't spoken about. I'd love your thoughts on ninety some of the options that we haven't spoken about yet. I mentioned earlier. The engine of the we haven't really spoken still. We haven't spiked spoken about flying units. Whether it's rip adapters tehran's There's some other things that we haven't released harkin about the raise. What's your thoughts on on some of the other units that you haven't chosen in Installed on i love the tehran's in star born especially so tech. You can have a really really fun list but also really good and that you these guys are just tearing across. The board invents a celtic. They're already fast. They are you know the definition of a glass cannon though they only have six save Once they have an ability that when you move over something they can drop rocks which does d. three mortals and there is a role associated with it. You can make it better with with the hero But you can do a ton immortals that way in high movement so if you really like playing the movement game where you're moving all over the board doing some mortals here doing some mortals air Tehran's can be a lot of fun reproductive. unfortunately i think they. They don't really have a place anymore. If what changed. Because might love my experience against sarah fun i've played against big blocks of ripa deductibles and our men. There's a podcast Dan dan he. He runs party role. He got nicknamed territory dan because he started using tara johns before. These is book but he's not using the terror don's would using tear it owns. It was only about rip is putting the boat tied down. Buffing them up. You know you didn't have to be outside of nine inches you could you know you could literally within three. I think it outside of three What's changed it's made ripa. Doctors less attractive between battle times. Is it the fact that you've now got a drop outside of nine or is it. Something else knows something that they're they're slower for some reason. The tara dance They do way less damage. They used to have a An ability that when they would hit it would explode into extra tax. And you could roll your hits to make sure they all exploded and so you would you would. I would usually drop unit of six. And i would force you to make fifty saves no rent but fifty saves off that unit six Now they do have reruns but they don't explode they don't have as many attacks anymore and so they're just hit like a knack. I mean they know damage now and they used to have italian way you could put them in reserve which is what makes them so special. You'd have like a big block. Six to twelve rip it that dole's the blow tied down that the backfield or weak point And we know the outside of nine rule at the time. They still have a tie in that. Lets them deep strike but it's nine inches now that that three inches was was incredibly incredibly good because i mean it's almost impossible to screen out for three inches on the entire board And so it's not inches now you could. You can find some ways around. You really work hard like cogs in the plus one to charge. But they're just not worth it Pterodactyls are just so much better and you don't need a battalion guitar. Titles in turn what the so. They are so fast that they can get across the board so busy spending a lot of points already on some of your key synergy so then put ripa deductibles to have potentially hero van is going to support them and the battalion. It's a very high cost and points out going into skinks inches source god into something else in your avi they can be run as like a msu type of. I need something that can fly. Go pretty fast score objectives later on because there are only like eighty point seventy or eighty points. I can't remember exactly but the real real cheap for three of them. And so you can get those if you've just got a few extra points but dozen your list and they can score decades later on for you if you need to but yeah yeah. Kind of the same with with razor. Don's used to see a lot of razor don's which one that had the they had the overwatch shoot after you've been charged kind thing and i think there's still you could still make them work especially with a couple of bucks you can give them because they do have the skewered And but you're still rolling for the random attacks you do get a tax on the charge face you can actually shoot charge them and then attack again with that way But they're just so overshadowed by their their big brothers. The salamanders that you don't see very often. I've got a bunch of much else back from where they were really could less battalion but earn battle. Because they could salamanders strong with the alpha strike in the best defense. Is offense and i feel like that kind of fall into that have agreed then. You're better off. Going hot salamanders than waiting to counter attack with with the originals at their some units like the engine the god bestowed on that can be negative. They can still be pretty good in star born but i think they really shine over and coalesced in thunder lizards. So i think you'll see them mostly over in that that section where you can double tap both of those and shoot an extra time for because when they're in starboard literally having their damage that they can output. So i think i think they they end up a lot more over in Coalesced what about what about some of those combat monsters. Yeah you're all blotto your Your is scoff it on in a A console today today have a place in a list like yours big. I mean they can be fit in there. You're talking about a you know a two hundred ten point monster. It's it's there's not many of those around and they can actually put up quite a bit of hurt for two hundred ten points and and especially like the scar vet. Both a scarves and the old on carnivores are kind of self supporting. They have a commandment that they can use cells. That makes them even better. So they. if you've got one and you've got the points they can be like great like immigration army. I have found that they are good solid paces you can have him like on the flank and they do themselves obviously in coalesced When he can stop offing up your sources well but they're not a bad littoral combat monster especially for someone who might want to run. It may be a maybe the a final question before we stop bringing these hiring as i notice you quite conservative with your endless bells and Considering that sarah fun has the ability to bound ingles spells Allegheny any endless spells. It you liked 'cause know getting the plus two movement and posted a charge. I've already talked about jim's. And how the fact the economy. Jimmy's right back at you. Do you see it as like an offensive thing being able to throw the purple son again coming back against you. I think. I think the burning head is asleep off most armies and in in sarah Up because you can't yourself back and near the railroad wants to hit within nine Yeah there's there's there's some that are incredible Jim nez bound. Jiminez is amazing Bowed purple. Son is one of my favorites. It'll usually take turner to to get there But once it does it will harass the army the rest of the game unless they and it's a hard one to unwind because it yet to roll a nine to unbinding and so that thing will usually terrorize people Great against high save elite armies. Where you're just gonna say. I'm going to remove units from our models from that unit Other ones that are great burning head like you said. I love that one burning at like a lot There's some that. I actually play just for the defensive capability like Gnashing jaws it's cheap. It's plan on going to do a lot of damage but what it is going to do is going to take up a lot of space and the second with the the great pied at super cheap. It is a humongous endless spell. And so you put that thing on the board and just start moving it. I'm going to block this area. You're not gonna get here if you get close drag over you and do three mortals. So there's some of those if you've got a thirty to forty points left at the end of your list look at those inbound in spells. They are great If you've got twenty points. I actually really liked the may as mick Maelstrom because what that does. It's it's kind of a weird one with only twenty points for the bound version and you can get it over onto the other side of the board turn one and what it does is it. Gives you an extra unbiased to every one of your enemies spells and what it does. I mean it just gives you an extra mine so you try to combine it with croak. You fail Then you get another unknown this and it powers powers up every time you unbend something and then it explodes though. It's pretty cool when it's very cheap. I find myself a lot with twenty points. Leftover with with it. I slept at right. It love it. I love it A couple of quick ones surf on has the ally pool obsta cost and silva fdu find any particular units. Aw maybe with bringing in or use. Don't have two points if i think if you're looking for one You might pro. Palestinian prime isn't a bad choice. Especially if you're looking in someplace that doesn't have teleport's or you want something else to teleport into range. Because he he starts off the board. He's three hundred point. Caesar cheap he starts off the board and then he comes in. He's going to become an intern three usually and he's gonna hit like a mack truck when he and so. It provides a really nice late game piece from the really really dies manipulation as well being able to a comment septa. There's some damage at range. You re roll the dice. It almost guarantees the charge. I actually talked about ripping dot spending points on the rip deductibles pasta italian. Maybe the hero consistent. You probably have off bringing prime like for the same point. You've really going to spend simla points to just get sick value with prime time. There are a couple other options to that are pretty useful. one is any of the storm casts wizards they have one with ninety points and everglades comet which is a fantastic spell My own son runs the comet constantly and he hits that he before our new book where i can find that thing time he would. He would drop a comment constantly. It's a damaged that just pulses and then on the next turn at pulses again So that's great when it's only one hundred points you can have ninety points. He wizard to cast in his modest one. The heat as well since i've been three months off. Sorry say you can do damage to your wizards visits and make it harder for them. And then you still at the Ability to unwind so many things with long there there is a little bit a the lord. Arcane on foot has a unique ability that he can spend a command point to move an endless spell d six inches. And so if you lorna conham i think so Lord arcane on foot though jack so let's say bound purple son You can then spend a command point which will probably have a couple on him to move it further. And it's a stackable emancipate and so you can. If you've got enough command points you can get just about any endless spell across the board with that guy so a pretty useful Trying to think that. I don't really have anything from silvana any models. I don't know that i would take anything from there I think they're kind of in a bad place right now but many maybe tree ramps having the ability to teleport around the board. The watching ninety nine point lead thing. Aren't they eighty points or something right. Eighty nine ninety points and yet with the with the white pipes they can. They can teleport. That would probably be a nozzle support screen old guy for objectives in having to waste your rob lows in space and time on securing objectives for example. Yeah yeah other than that. Yeah yeah not a go trick is a really fun. If you're a go check he he can. He can ally in any order. Nope go trick is not that. I'm one up curious. On how guard trick would work in ice sarah fund list and So i have any ways to move up the board quick. No you're gonna auto run on. Turn one. I played him a lot before we got a new book and seraphin and he was pretty fun He's just kind of that. That may lay He wrote that you wouldn't have maybe in a in a fangs the starboard unless you may not have a big beat stick. He can definitely be that He is a lot of points. And there's not there's nothing really do buffum. You can heal them with a spell up one that gotta help but If you're looking to fill some points with an ally that works yeah. He's is pretty good. I mean there's a lot of trade off Like coach like. I'm looking Checklist you'd have to drop down the fifteen chameleons kingston properly. Your you'll salamander. Amanda hunting pack to to get go trick. Yeah i'm not taking too many allies right now. I'm squeezing everything i can out of those points With the ethnic considered us so dig it. i. I think the lost the loss question. I'm going to bring up and we're going to bring it up on the screen. Normally do very often in. This checks can be quite destructive. Obst asked us about bead retains and harm retains. You are men with an explicit bid. I am growing like a wine age. Tell me about your beat routine. Tell me how do you make it so luscious and so wonderful. I imagine Barbecue in texas is like radian oily globe. Now know this is a this was a covid beard. And so i've i've never had a beard before and i Made a joke against the life. And i said hey i'm going to think i'm gonna grow a beard during this time off. She goes as long as you cut it before when kovic is over. Well it's been a while so it just keeps growing so we'll we'll see it's it's funny sony might so you might you quincy of the day They watched the video. That i recorded in april twenty twenty and i made a comment and like all will be open ended the year on some type of a. It'll be by the end of the year. And then like i eh. How's that going for you. Yeah yeah. I miss in tournaments. That's for sure so. Hopefully we'll get some. I've got a tournament scheduled here in the next month. So hopefully it'll it'll actually happen. That's the first one that we've had in a long time. So maybe some things on able. I do have a good group of guys that i play with just about every week and so we have been able to to keep keep the dice rolling during all those all those madness. I've been really lucky to To have face to face games. Look good literally one day tournament tomorrow for three games. I'm hold budget gaming happening this month and then could want a told him. Coming up are finally enough. I'm running ranga one day tournament next month in. It's it's looking like fifty fifty person on house. St meant it's crazy. It's it's sold at three times highway. Which is telling me that He is a sandalwood bead person I like my saying would us search sandal sandalwood oils. I also when i was in grace. I found this this little great place and i bought a couple of them and a like a more of a cream and it's made of like olive oil wonderful smell of olive oil all day that my half ethnic blot dislike nypd. Eat it anymore. Retain man. I'm a beard new saw. I've got some beard oils and stuff you know. I've been experimenting with china. Keep it keep it lush but now a learning but my secret for you. Caleb is that i now have a beach straighten out so it's like a little rock. Ham brush has like a little heating element makes it straight site hunter to use such a wonderful Around sarah awesome awesome. Do you wanna give any shutouts anything. You want to mention Clearly look is a sarah fun extraordinary Link below gajic at each channel. Give it a saw if you love you sir phone if you wanna learn how to beat the space demons and there's some there's some excellent website luxury online if if you if you're interested in seraphin stuff that is an excellent community Go throw your lists around in there. There's always sir from talk going on there. An entire website devoted to the lizard men. So it's pretty awesome a def definitely. Check them out. If you're interested shot that it's actually quite cool to see some old old forms back to the empire line forum and they've got so one of legislative content luster lines and now the one. I've been going to rookie recently. So it's it's amazing sees these communities still around but during shadows. You wanna make other than lost your online. None of talking ahead If you're in texas look up your local group. We've texas masters one of these days. We'll get it going again. It's an excellent excellent tournament. Run by matt taylor and some of the guys here in texas of so. If you're if you're in my neck of the woods look us up and we start that again and come. Meet me on the table also. Well i'm looking forward to coming back to america. Texas is definitely applies. It i wanna go to. I wanna meet up with you. Want to be up with little masters so tank on a made up. we'd anyone is in texas and barbecue again. Absolutely miss it that caleb thank you so much for your time. I learned a lot We've now looked at bars. Coalesced and stop on subdued. Go check out the video with caleb. If you wanna see the other side of the fence see how. He does things around consoles engines. The gods stick it on sunday slot surf on it. I mean we've got a my little juxtaposition between the two absolutely If you look at my channel. I'm gonna have a battle report of this list. I did coming up soon versus a some nergal so check it out all right. Are we done enough yet. God you stop at guides. We're wrapping up. Thank you time. And we'll tell again soon discussion valuable if he did give the video the old thumbs off. And if you have a comment or inside in the comment section below the champion over here are my coach. Patriots and youtube members. You guys bloody legends. Thank you for all the support if you want to know. More about the support programs leaks off a large down. He in the episode description along with them into the discord. Serve off so we can continue this conversation until next time. Don't forget to ninety characters and have a good one.

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Slave Engagement Photos

Best of The Steve Harvey Morning Show

07:03 min | 3 months ago

Slave Engagement Photos

"This year let's not say we're going back to school work in our social lives. Let's embrace the lessons of this past year and move forward instead. Calls has just what you need to do it. In style for kids there's active wear and backpacks from the top brands like nike adidas under armor. And more and grown-ups there are beauty must have and stylish accessories to help you move forward to your new normal so go ahead find it all at kohl's or kohls dot com today. I'm robert conti chief of the metropolitan police department. And i need your help. Dangerous driving on dc streets has risen dramatically resulting in tragic fatalities together. We can reverse this trend so join me our commitment to adopt safe driving. Behaviours in the district never spe- drive impaired or drive distracted too much at stake to be careless behind the wheel in our officers are committed to a safer community. And you should too please help us by ending all dangerous driving behaviors. This story right here guys. An interracial couples slave master themed engagement photos are making their rounds across the internet and social media. Now just have you seen these. Have you seen those in one picture. A black man. You've seen it. Steve and one picture. A black man appears to be dressed in slave clothing as he hovers over to plant a kiss on his white wife. Who's wearing a pre civil war style dress. He burlap oh in a few of the slave like photos. It looks like the couple is standing on a sugar plantation where the black groom is pictured shackled in chains. Okay i mean this is just so bizarre so strange we we don't now. They tried to create a story line for the photo. Shoot which is of course. Insensitive aunt both of those things. They added this caption. Eighteen forty two days passed and everything changed. Our love got stronger and stronger. He was no longer a slave. He was part of the family. That you know what it is supposed to make those pictures better to me to me. It's the same process. It's been again with that company. They'll put out races pitches in the nail apologize from so not getting depressed with talking about it and then they'll probably apologize later on so it's out the budget thing at at what cost. It's it's a testament to the ignorance of both of them. It's ignorant on her part to want to even portray her potential husband. That way is ignorant all her part. But i'm more disappointed. Help i got her coming from her. Forefathers with slave on this i got it but chose were slaves and to make light of it like you fallen in love with the slave master. Are you kidding me man. The the the the thinking of yo stupid as to willard hall this white woman your mask and there for her to be okay with hawley. Her black gasman her slave. Both sick ass families. And i will tell you one other thing. I bet you both day families was going on a crazy. Have they lost a rabid ass mind. No one stopped that were posted steed. They were saying they were even mad at the cameraman for taking these pictures us cameraman. Why don't we just go ahead and make him a slave for six today. Let let's go on. Put him through the course put him through it. Put him through. What got ass all of that. Let's put him through it since he thinks he wants to. Be a sleigh. let's go is so be on the ram of even undestanding the atrocity of what that really was greatest atrocity against mankind for four hundred years. This and the holocaust would a two greatest atrocities of guest all of mankind. Nothing compared to these two things here. Nothing that's true but the amount of time that we were slaves this country right here with this constitution radio. Then miss me stupid. Black is thought this was good to do per km. You proclaim yolo for the mast man. I love him. He was part of the family. What i mean. Make this make sense why they did it first of all. He did it because he has no right or sense of self or dignity. Let's start pills dignity if he hasn't none of that. His identity is wrapped up in whiteness. His it of whiteness that he was a slave and this master would take him in. That's his whole idea. This whole thing is his black asphalt. I met white girl black stupid all right. Listen coming up next week. We're moving on. It's getting tense up in here. We're moving on coming up phone call right after this. You're listening to morning show. I'm robert conti chief of the metropolitan police department. And i need your help. Dangerous driving on dc streets has risen dramatically resulting in tragic fatalities together. We can reverse this trend so join me our commitment to adopt safe driving. Behaviours in the district never spe- drive impaired or drive distracted too much at stake to be careless behind the wheel in our officers are committed to a safer community. And you should too. Please help us by ending all dangerous driving behaviors. Beware the monster. You're running from mike. 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Adventures for Food: Ep 09 - A Record Book Bruin

Harvesting Nature’s Wild Fish and Game Podcast

16:54 min | 8 months ago

Adventures for Food: Ep 09 - A Record Book Bruin

"The pursuit for food has taken us into the wilderness across rivers and atop mountains. These journeys have connected us to the wild. It is this connection that allows us to experience the wild places. This world has to offer in search for both wild game and adventure. This is my adventure for food. My name's tyler. France and i come from a long bloodline of pennsylvania. Big woods they're hunters. We've done our fair share of damage on the bears over the past several decades as my grandfather lemoyne killed are hunting camps. I bear in nineteen fifty seven. My father steed has taken an astounding. Eight bears over his lifetime all of which while stand hunting. My older brother travis has forebears to his name. And i've taken three myself but the one who has the claim to fame with the largest bear the entire france family is myself with the second fair that i took in two thousand nine season. This is the story of out there when we woke up on the second day. The two thousand nine bear season. It was one of those days where the rain was coming down in buckets. You just knew you felt like you could crawl in a little cocoon of a sleeping bag and stay in bed but nevertheless at three thirty in the morning dragged my bought out of the bunk and mosey downstairs in the cabin at breakfast started. The rain was pounding on the old tin roof. We're looking at each other thinking i'll man it's going to be one of those days. What are we gonna do. Where are we going to hunt. We hadn't had any look on the season opener and The crew that was with us decided to hash out our plan over breakfast so we were sitting there talking about our options. The way that we hunt we don't typically drive spread out. We took a good group of guys maybe six to eight and a group and spread out across the mountain covering all the high traffic trails. The benches the ridges any crossings on draws mostly in proximity to cover. We weren't sure how long we're going to stick it out because it was supposed to pour all day but we ultimately decided to spread out in one area that was pretty easy access and meet back at the logging road at noon to figure out a plan for the rest of the day we ultimately decided that myself and a friend of mine. Brad would head east and cut down over a a big shop and spread out. I would watch a little draw that comes in from a band of the cam locks and some laurel and he would stay up on top in the chop. My dad another friend of ours. Jody and another friend. Bobby would head to the west of the logging road and spread out and take their chances. They're headed down over the side with brad. Well before daylight. My god my three determined spot for supplies that my dad had run into bears in the past We've had some success with camp members killing. There's there before but not recently. Nevertheless we got there. And i let you know drop brad off continued Out on my way down over a ridge just that i could kinda see a band of laurels to my left. Little opening a cover down below me a little trickle creek heading down through a draw and emirates victim locks on the opposing hillside again. The trump was behind me. I sat there all morning. Thankful praying thanking god that i had tree umbrella to put above my head and try to keep most of the the damp and coal off me but it was one of those days. Just just kind of hunkered down and prayed for quitting time but it got to be around. You know ten thirty ten forty five on the radio and i said to brad said hey man you see anything he said. I haven't even seen a squirrel and we we talked about it. And i said i think i'm going to pack up soon and i'm gonna zigzag the top of this recent chop here see if we can kick something out to you and that'll take me maybe an hour and then we'll head back to the truck for noon to meet thrust of the guys so i i took my time. I got off the the radio with him and i was sitting. There took the took out my sandwich. Eight sandwich drank a little bit of the water. That i had my pack tapped it and of course you know as i was ready to leave nature calls so i stood up prepared. Take a leak. I took my tree umbrella down. Shook the water off of it. Put it in my pack properly gun against my pack stood up and start taking a whiz gazing down the mountainside and all my manhood exposed to the wilderness. I hope down. And i see what i thought. Was this little bird flittering off of a tree. Limb little hemlock branch moved. If i you know songbird whatever the caught that little glimpse and it made me look a little closer. I'm still there continuing our business. And i see it move again and it was. It was kind of a branch that was obscured by a large oak tree. That was right in between the two of us. You know myself and that branch down in the distance. The bottom of the draw and as i continued to look it just seemed out of place in the gray stillness of the morning. Everything was you know dreary and gray and it was actually a sign of life and all of a sudden. That sign of life really came to fruition because i saw a little sliver of black on the left side of that mature oak tree. I was like no way. I cut it off real quick at that point right then and there and i saw black on the other side of the tree. And i'm like oh my gosh i think this is a bear coming right at me and it truly was it was. It was a bear walking straight up the hillside directly behind that tree and eventually it crossed out to the right side of the tree. And i knew it was a bear and not just the bear but a good bear so i. I quickly knelt down to the ground. Dropped into like minjah mode immediately grabbed. The gun pulled out my way. Look through the scope. As i look through the scope just grain i saw rain and moisture all in my scope. So i'm frantic now. The bear still walking straight towards me up the hill. I'm trying to my scope with you. Know a shirt tail. That's hanging out at the bottom of my coat. I finally get it cleared enough. That i can see through my crosshairs and and get dialed in on this there. And at this point it's about seventy seventy five yards away settled the crosshairs just below. Its neck the top of its chest area. Quarter into shot. Thinking i could just you know. Try to slip one right in the boiler room there as that's walking towards me. I took a deep breath. And i squeezed off the shot at that moment. That are through both front legs up in. The air tumbled backwards. I saw blood fly out of its jugular area. It rolled at left out the death mon. Now if you've never heard of death known from bear before it's a sound you'll never forget it's kind of like a roar that echoes like a foghorn through the entire valley i swear it it shipped the water and marine drops off the tree limbs but that moment silence finally came the barrows down. I was totally thrilled. Elated astonished couldn't believe my luck. Got on the radio. I call brad said bear down. Bear down for mill run camp and he said great job buddy. I'm gonna get to an area that i can try to reach the other guys a mental v right down so i agree you know i would meet him here. Go down and check out my bare put my tag on it. And i stood up started walking down over the hillside and man i i just had the shakes. Come over me now. This was my second bear. I had already done this before. But there's something about the thrill of the hunt that just overcame. The i'd honestly sit down. Got halfway down the mountain towards us bear. Sit down collect myself. Try not to throw up from the excitement and the adrenaline pumping through my body. And i finally got my crap together. And i walked down to the bare and realize man. This is this is a pretty nice bear at that point. I was thinking you know. It's definitely over two hundred fifty pounds. I didn't know how much bigger it was beyond that. But i filled out my harvest tag. Got it in its ear. And by this point i could see brad up on the hillside making his way down to me. She came down. And you know. We are celebrating hugging share. You know high five in just pumped up that we were fortunate enough to take a bear for the camp and at that moment she said well. Let's let's flip it over and get some pictures when the two of us tried to grab this bear and move it into position for a photo and it. It barely budged. We realized we had a pretty exceptional baron. The ground here in that time managed to get a propped up a little bit some photos. And i decided that i would take pack my gun my pack and all my gear down to the truck and kind of shed some layers. Because i knew the work was just going to get started. So brad sat there with my bare. That moment hiked down at the truck. Got a big group that we keep big burly cord rope that we had used several times in the past forgetting bears out. Hold that back in with me. The plan was to try to take it out live. Full-size drag it out We obviously we're going to need some help. But i got back to the bear. I feel drastic. Took a good forty five minutes. It was a huge bear. Might five frame was swallowed up. Somebody took a picture of me. Field dressing this bear and unlike dwarfed next size of it but finally got a field draft. The other guys made their way to so at this point. We have my father in his late fifties at that time. Our friend jodi who's also in his fifties and then myself brad and bobby all of which were at that time in our mid twenties so the plan was that jodi would go ahead and carry some guns carry packs clear. You know branches. Forest and brad bobby. My dad myself tied basically a tag into the rope to to the to hind legs and recited. We're gonna take it backwards down the creek bed. We affixed four handles on the rope. And let me tell you. If if one person didn't pull that bear didn't we had all kind of go account of one two three hall and we make a good twenty thirty yard run out and then we'd have to catch our breath take a break and then go again and you know being a young guy with an older dad at the time you know. He's still pretty young considering and in good shape at the time but i didn't want to push him So i i actually said that you know are you okay. Do we need to go get help. And he actually got ticked at me. He grabbed a hold of my coat and he said you know what we're getting. This bear out right now. We don't need help. We got this so you know. He was fired out. But i was. I was happy that you he was willing to dig. Digs toes down. This wasn't his first rodeo so convinced that we had what we needed. We all kind of dug in and we were in knee deep water in late november. It was cold. We hold that thing Six hundred yards proximate down this draw to the truck and took a group effort to get it up on the tailgate in the back of the truck. We took it down to the check station in jersey shore. I had taken the in in clinton county and we got down to jersey shore exit and we went to the fire hall there for the check station and when we pull them and people started gathering around the tailgate we pulled the bear out and there was kind of like a murmur in the crowd. Like oh this is. This is a good dare. They got it on the scale and hoisted it up and when they yelled out the measurement they give the dressed weight and the estimated. Liveweight turned out that my estimated live weight was four hundred thirty one pounds And eventually when i got the skull scored. It made pennsylvania record books. It was an exceptional. They're a big male bore and when they pull the tooth the aged and it turned out that it was an nine year. Old eight month old bear. So that's a dare that made it. through many. Many different seasons escaped countless hunters had a couple of snafus with a bb gun toting birdseed watcher based on when we skimmed it out back home and took took the hide off and started butchering. We're shaving away. The layers of fat on its back and right on its hind quarter. I found to. Bb's that somebody actually shot it in the in the rear end with a begun or a pellet gun but we ended up breaking down that bear deboned we froze it and we ended up doing what we always do. Shoot a bear for the camp We slow braves them in red wine and garlic and we serve it to upwards of three hundred people at our annual bear and deer roast. It's kind of like a celebration of the camp that we have every year where we bring the harvest together. Every guy in camp donates one of his dear hindquarters and fortune it to bear that year we all share it with our friends and families up the annual roast. So i was proud to be the only person that actually killed the bear that year for our cat. Unfortunately it was a really big one and held out to feed that many people everybody at least got a taste of it and in reflection. I'm just super thankful that a grown up in a family that embraces the outdoors. The way they do. I have a hunting camp. That's in their country. We've had a lot of success in the past and i'm hopeful that we can continue to have success as well into the future because at the end of the day in that they're sitting there the bear roasts taking a bite of it. It's a little taste. Pennsylvania big woods victory and that's my adventure for food

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#03: The Most Holy Trinity

FAITH AS IT IS!

24:40 min | 9 months ago

#03: The Most Holy Trinity

"Highly line. So this is Sandra here and i'm going to be hosting the third episode of our podcast safe as it is and to a team that is going to be joining me and We're gonna be talking on an amazing they can. I think should met at the the guys. Hey guys thank you dude. So the topic that we're going to talk about. Today is the holy trinity. It's like the mystery of mysteries today. It's everything literally everything ensure so let's get out of debt and gets out into the topic show in the name of the and dishonoring. Police fits on the heavenly fasel. Who thank you for this moment knowledge. That'd be ask your fuel instead These not give the business in new orleans and the understanding To to guide others to this mazing mischievous you've chosen and jalil were large of the ice cube for your love. Your porch in are humbler. Hot that menia. Undestand watering denser. Still understand police that it gives us some in order to quote this amusing Make the chatting the name of jesus and position of jurists mothers and ordering just insane on then to tina. So i think we if he just like to battle with the basically just like a justification ity definitely. Yeah so then we just dolls. And so what is the holy trinity athena. The holy trinity is the triangle. You'll god head and the dogma of the holy trinity states that god is one being and clean person. So guys ask chris stints all of us have recited every single day in the i believe in the apostles creed i believe in one god and then we go on to see how god is the father son and spirit so guys. You do the math. That doesn't add up. You can't be five sinan spitted. That's three and one at the same time. So what we asked in stalking about when we say that god is one. We're talking about his being and when we see that he's father son and spirit. We're talking about his boss. Hold and when we say that god is one remain that. He's one in being and three in boston. So kristen's all christians. What do we believe in god. Who is our god focus. Students be believe in the father son and spirit and you have to affirm to the trinity to be a christian. If you do not perform to the trinity. You're not kristen that it's as simple as that as christians. We believe that god is one being and three in person. What what does the bible teach about. How i mean. They called the distance from the dogma. I think you mentioned dogma right. And that's such a wonderful question. So trinity sl said is the god head that triune god head when see the dogma of the trinity the language that we use to articulate. This truth is the dogma. Now what. I am explaining to you. I'm explaining it in the language of english. And i'm coming to you so that is the dogma of the trinity but the absolute truth that god is one in being and three in person that is the dogma but the absolute truth and i'm sorry i missed the absolute truth. That god is three in-person the try you'll god head is the trinity right. Okay so then So i mean it is a dogma and we have to believe in it and that would be. I mean that would be the but christianity and it says still didn't have to believe in the trinity right. Yes absolutely so for all of you. Chris teams who are listening to this. We note that there are certain differences in what we believe in in catholic orthodoxy and being protestant but this is like the combining factor for all of us that what is common among lavas is the holy trinity and anyone who does not afloat to it is not a christian that is the where the basis of being a kristen to believe in the triune. God you did mention about being in i in. Ib moton shifted to no difference between like waters being in who is the first in equity china's. Yes thanks with question so rude. I will need to help to explain this. So i'll just ask a few questions and please answer them. Okay so let me take you back to fourth standard. So did you have a chapter in. Social studies are signs that said about living being sent non living being student but that again. I love every bit of exactly so innovative i ended. We thought we were taught that there are two types of being living beings and non living beings. So over here as ajay win. Ever had this question that we should have had that this. What do you mean as being uh so when we say that something has a being we are talking about its state off existence uc. I am sitting on a chair. Might jet has been it is a non living being. It is a jet next to me is my bed again. It's a non living being but it's a bit. It's not a chair. I am a living being the sandra. Your mom has plans right. As-as those plans. Are they living beings after. So am i living being Yet think all of us in that you were so me and the plant booth living beings yet. I am a human being and the plant gets to scarlet plant being. We bought a living beings but we bought at different right so that is what god also is as living beings that are might the living beings that are human beings that are animal beings that are planned. Being that are in djelic beans they are demonic beings and how many godly being sued. Think that exactly. I mean beings exactly things and that is what we as christine always proclaimed. We believe in one god that this is exactly one godly being sent her. You would ninety both that human beings that are food. Distinct beings many many human beings beings many demonic beings but only violent godly being and that godly being is god. However when we're talking about the fact that the sun and spitted. We are talking about the person who called. So you see. I at t no. I'm human being and my person. Is that of being a no. I am the person at the dna. You are the person sandra that is the person and of being human. How bull when we talk about god god is three in person. We have the fido the son and the holy spirit all three of them at ask but it as you me and phillips three of them are not each other all three of them can think for themselves and all three of them are one that does not mean when we say that god is one being entry in person you order security for. That's amazing and okay so now okay even a call this a dumb questions that i think i'm gonna go ahead and ask you so you know i have. I have doubts like you know. Sometimes they don't make work in the bible which there's nickel ranji says. The father denial on you know. I don't know somehow it feels like okay. Facade nihil feels the unity is made up to questions order. You know so just one person i don't know how do you know that it's like whether it's just one person just do person. No maybe Knows i understand your question. So how do you. How do we know that. God is three in person and not one not two. Am i correct absolutely absolutely and do not have to buy. It does not a dumb question. It does actually a very common question. And when i was studying this topic i saw this question come over multiple times. So no actually. You don't have to do anyway so to answer the question i can. I've landed in just one way god. Since the beginning of time has to beat himself to be to the in person he hasn't revealed himself to be one in person to in person afford or fight he has revealed himself to be three and that is why we know that he's three. And how do i know that. He has revealed himself to be three in person because his it donald word which is captured in the bible and Which we as christians steed. The bible tells us that he is to the very clearly the by brooklyn's the truth that god is the in person and that is why we know that he is to and not all or two. I mean i think it would be as i ask. You gave us national few evidences. Like oh where. The janati is mentioned in the bible. And you know and the jewish scriptures and you know would have fun bedroom. Yeah definitely so let me just start from the beginning of descriptors so let me go to genesis. Chapter one verse twenty six. So genesis chapter one was twenty six days. Let us make man in our image and likeness. The keyword are. Yeah absolutely you see. God is not talking to himself. All three percents are talking to each other. They're saying let all three of fuzz make man in our image and likeness so here we see that god is more than one in person. He is more than one. So how do we know that he is tweet. So let me just take you do the time of moses. Okay now just because. I am fast folding to the time of moses doesn't mean that that law works in between let me make this very clear that the bible is saturated with was stealing us. That god is themed person but for the sake of time we go to the prominent horses. So in the time of moses we see that moses is face to face with god now this who is only explicitly talking face to face with moses. He clearly commands moses that the angel of the lord will not forgive the sins of the people of israel and that the name of the lord is in his injury. So here's the word angel will confused the peop- you. They will think that the engine mentioned is a mere creature and amir intial like the angel. Gabriel but it is not so the language of english confuses people but in the language that the old testament is deleting the stands for the word messenger. And we see that the way this particular angel of the lord that the lord is talking about is we can see that the angel is the lord this particular ranging accidents worship and bring a being exits worship in the bible. We know that the being if the lord because worship is due only to god so we have this. We have yahu wade speaking face to face with moses with placing all his authority in the angel of the lord who is leading moses who is leading the entire country of byzantine cloud by and fire by night. The the rents are exodus. Chapter fourteen was nineteen to twenty an exodus. chapter drank. Three was twenty to twenty one way. We see the angel of the lord and again in isaiah chapter sixteen was fourteen. That is the spirit of the lord that is mentioned. Do the math. Sandra that is yahweh. The angel of the of the lord and the spirit of your way to the distinct beings t distinct persons who are being worshiped as god and also the prayer of the israelites. Sharma elsa us that god is one so he obviously clearly the trinity now. This teaching is bay. Jesus in the new testament so if apple talk about the teaching of jesus lately just jump to matthew chapter twenty eight. With jesus commanded his disciples to baptize countries in the name of the father the son and the spirit and not very prominent incidents is the baptism of jesus that disregarded in matthew chapter three where jesus is being baptized and the heavens opened up and the voice of the five that is hard and the dow is descending upon jesus and the dove is the holy spirit on motown the father jesus is the son and the holy spirit altea. These teaching sat up pulled by saint. Paul we see that he continuously in office let does greeted Teams in the name of the father son and spirit. And if i have to talk about steam let me just talk about the i believe are the night in creed the creed that we as scott legs have recited every single day of our lives. It has three pillars. I believe in the father. I believe in jesus christ his only son our lord and i believe in the holy spirit. I know that the nice seems need is already long breath but actually critically analyze every single statement it basically has stupa us three pillars that the third the son and the spirit and everything is a cat degree to this and mighty Is the catechism of the catholic church. Please go back. And he'd the catechism of the catholic church and you will see what i'm talking about. Okay so moving on Stillwater the what are the other you know. Include which have the different you know. They have some different areas and now which. Which of these do we need to award. I mean which are lil. Yes so as a re passing day that are these. New head is these that be built So a few of the most prominent schools of thought that of becoming very them print is something known as unitarian is in which i have heard the most so unitarian believes that god is one in being an one in person that is are you see if i'm the by we know that jesus is the word of the lord and the holy spirit is the spirit of the lord so it's very important to understand these two terms. So why do you think that. Jesus is the word of the lord or jesus is known as the word of the lord. Let me help you understand the title given to them. That is you see when we communicate so sandra you'll know what is going on in my mind because of my words. Yeah so my words that we need to you and jesus. Dvd's that father to us all okay him. Because of jesus we know who goddess jesus is the word of the lord because he defeats to us who the father is so because because this is the word of the lord doesn't do something that comes out of the five this model. He is known as the word of the lord because he reveals to us. Who got this so unitarian with that. No jesus like they would. They would end up the word of the lord to move something. Like jesus proceeds from the father smelt seemingly disputed. The holy spirit is the spirit of the lord because he is the busing who madison hots towards jesus as the catechism of the catholic church in its bad graphics. Hundred and eighty nine sees that the spitted deville jesus to a us we will not be able to understand who jesus if the it doesn't move hots in that does because the and that is why the holy spirit is known as the spirit of the law but the unitarian would say that the holy spirit is afford and that is ahead because the holy spirit is not a course. He is a boston all three of the father. The son the spirit are distinct persons. Ask the students need to remember that. And that's what you limitation isn't just though we need to actively avoid that one and the second school of would be binded so did -eckognize the that the will be two distinct persons but they do not believe in the holy spirit. That is something that we need to avoid people from. No if you're dating or a binary dating you're not christian you have to be at trinity into christian that so now own. I mean doing unitarians and bina. -tarian also formed asto scriptural passages. How do yuck the point to the worst of the bible to prove the point and i decided that their interpretation of scripture is wrong and that is why they are wrong because the interpretation of scripture is wrong that taking the by bill and making it say something that they want the by to say they will not let the by talk dan but we can get away with this. Just eat. i mean how even how do you what is right and what i mean. How do you know what. I e yeah. Thank you very much for asking the question. Because if you don't ask me that question i will come across as advocate so so guys you see. I'd okay let me. Just take you back to judge history. So jesus promised his disciples that he would send the holy spirit and the holy spirit would help us and prevented from embracing false doctrines. He said that the gates of would not prevail the judge that he builds so if jesus has been honest and kept his word kept his promise then the holy spirit will never let his judge embrace false doctrines and that is addressing that i have in jesus and not because i think that the georges ready smart and looking back at torches from the time the church has existed the judge has always believed in a triune. God and the judge has always done everything in its power due to proclaim the truth. That god is three in person and one in being and we see that in the catechism of the catholic george like. I just want to encourage everyone to go and read the cdc and just see how beautifully eat. This advocated like honestly. I was so ard by a feeding offered and i want everybody to that to piece go and this easy and this is not something that we have come up with overnight. This is something that the judge has been teaching for two thousand years. So if i have to trust jesus then two thousand years later somebody comes along is that the george has been wrong for two thousand years and and it's not as much an active thing that the judges wrong as much as about the fact that for the past two thousand years jesus did not do anything due to keep his promise and he doesn't respond to talk to the my point is if jesus this promise then the judge that he built upon. The rock has not increased false doctrine. And that is why. I believe that we as judge correct and every other ideology is wrong. I mean the catholic church is such that. Yeah absolutely actually. The judge offers with still on a silver platter dot to anyone who's willing to take a grease wisdom bathed the judges so badly wanting to to us. It is ad choice whether we want to access did not like it's just available via the aspect of life. Absolutely i six or so. Then i think I'm done with my question and a little less of your health. And i'm trying to defend and still Thank you so much. Thank you so much for your nauseating. Y'all glory to god and amen amen absolute me and let some in ended with the little threat to our left mother for guiding us through this hannity. For the laura's with you lesson. I ramon women and left his dying. Jesus holding mother disgorge play for us now decided and so i think you guys must've notre of Is intel with us today but he back in the next episode of aggregates and of be hoped You know stick does soon and so the back showroom athena in banja by you guys happiness inning.

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Astros Homer 5 Times, Wild Ending To MNF, Previewing Texans vs Browns, Tyler Loves The White Women, One Hit Wonders

The Sean Salisbury Show

2:48:27 hr | Last month

Astros Homer 5 Times, Wild Ending To MNF, Previewing Texans vs Browns, Tyler Loves The White Women, One Hit Wonders

"I got shot sauce. Eight avail quarterbacks. Time french sean. Very this is the sean salisbury show. Here's the one to. This was driven deep to left field. That could be series. I it off the foot. Saad second decker in left field and the astros lead nine. Nothing on jose series first major league home run a one and siri drives this one to left-center fairly deep going back. His peter's looking up see you later. Jose series with his second big league homerun tonight. And the astros lead grossed fifteen to one welcome in i can tell you this asset good fifteen runs yeah Alexis got nothing on siri jokes. Hey siri show me. Oh evan. Gattis tweeted series showing. Oh wait nevermind already. Seldom a couple of series saw out now. Siri sorry I was trying to find of it. she didn't homer twice last night at north stuff in people's homes. That are listening right now and right. Yeah because i've sure what this rain they got up about five twenty. Been up since three thirty. My dogs be both brought a little wind. Picking chairs up trash cans blown over yet. But we're here all of us in the studio heavy. mfn mnt today is Interclub wednesday now. Is it wednesday tuesday man but basically that's right so it's too tuesday siri trashed tuesday to that's right. It is trash tuesday with the music. The worst music ever gets captain of the bad weather bad weather. Hope people are safe out there. If you are on the road to work your travel lanes people there you go. There was one in the middle. You're street yes. There was so great to be here. i'm up because i'm waiting for covers to combine on built in his outdoor kitchen. Got these big four huge. Tv's out malinowski. Got everything mounted ready to roll was actually spent the whole week. It saturday sunny out there cold goal. I'm telling dude. I'm a mexican beer fanatic. I know it's a little early to be talking about mexican beer but i am. It's not. I gotta dosekun here. I gotta bedell of there. I a pacifico there at sitting out there in the great weather doing it but then the weather comes and i'm out there okay. I don't have all the covers award but they're not in so i'm out there. Like towels and sheets and potato chip clippers laid off. But everything's good. Glad to be your hope. Everybody's well and safe and we'll have a lot of fun today. Try to add some light to your day. It didn't take long for you if you were worried about the astros Jumped out what wasn't like nine enough in the third. Yeah it was. When i was about done together. I'm not gonna lie to houston as well. I wouldn't lie out at nine. Nothing i went to bed to the nine. Nothing was i went to bed slipped through most of the storm by the time i got nine nothing. It was background music. It was the f. Just getting Yes it was nine nothing after three nine one after three and a half was nine one. I completely switch over to monday night. Football I didn't have to switch over because that was on. I had it. And i got my raider hat on as a raider guy told you that went. I picked out so did i. I didn't bet them You can hear the wind and we've got double pane windows. There's times when you hear noise. You're saying get louder the nato somewhere nearby at a dude yeah it's crazy anybody's down in galveston area. Listen if you saw the shark nato let us now. Tell you there tyler. You don't know but it'll happen. Shark data. but yeah the raiders. What a game. First of all derek carr I think he wants to keep his job. It looked like at four plus watched for plus last night and the ending of the game. That baltimore goes down. kick a field goal. Tucker they come back and then they pump a fifty five yard or through the uprights to get it to overtime overtime. This team goes in the other team. Comes out the raiders. Come down think they got a game. One right was the was it the ball on the one or was that the regular. I'm sitting here. I'm losing my mind now. The ball was on the. Let's see i ray. Let's see before the game with no. Oh yeah the before they they kicked field goals and then daniel carson nailed a fifty five yard or so and then at a car hit edwards. Got down to the golan remember thought. He scored everybody celebrating and he was stopped at the one yard line. So they had to redo it. Everybody's tripping and get derek carr for not remember kit a quarterback sneak of the statute but hit a quarterback sneak then through and compete complete pass and the false penalty was called the next play. He tried to throw a willie steed. The ball hits hands. Receiver bounces off and gets picked so that was gone. Then the ravens drive next and nassib sacks and forces a fumble from lamar jackson and then they line up. The raiders are going to kick a field goal but the unit was ready on the quick change turnover. So then take it to today. Cape italy without any timeouts to call so then car drops. Back at those touchdown passes agents. That's how that game went last night's decent. Yeah they're not all our last night they like throw ninety. Nineteen targets phenomenal player. Did he was the most yeah. It'll be kelsey because it's kelsey cut four million balls last year in that offense. He's going to catch more. Just because they're they're they're better but Waller skill set. You know one point. In time. I think as well. Isn't he going through an addiction issue. I think the point in his life waller had an addiction issue. Honestly if you look it up. I think is pretty impressive. I know late to the lakers. Yeah if i'm not mistaken. I thought waller there was an addiction of some kind. But he's turned his career around and he was suspended for violating the league's substance abuse policy. I believe there's a story about his that he and it's pretty fascinating about his was an addiction that he you know that addiction they get through that saved him and now here. He is playing great football and and You are correct found fox story. Yeah there you go and noon for the background would be a raider guy. I don't remember what he was addicted to. But if it was painkillers or other drugs. But i know there was an addiction problem. He's turned it around got himself clean and his plan lights out football and a big reason why they want to lessen i'll give derek carr alcohol and opioid okay. There you go. I didn't know if it was alcohol. But i knew that it was. I thought it was a the painkiller which is a rampant problem. Is you know from the percocet. And all those things that go on and And but a great story to tell because right now there as far as an explosive pass catcher outside of kelsey. And the truth is while chelsea's the better player waller's more explosive player. I mean with speed. And he's a what is he like six six. Yeah just a little hoops background to. If i'm not mistake play little hoop somewhere. It was it was always a football guy. I do know the addiction thing. The addiction thing was a problem for him and he's overcome that and it was a big time but the while there wasn't a lot of defense played some defense in clutch situations like the nassib sack. It was really impressive. White football okay. I guess i'm getting the point now. Where every single tied into six six maumee yet. I play basketball one. That's there's there's there's one right now. Our recently that was they didn't play any football in college at somebody's chasing too bad there they'd been chasing the end of their practice squad. I read that the preseason kind migraine off season. Yeah and now we got in watching this notre dame tight end boise good bell. There is a phenomenal football so he may be an the next grade one. We're obviously looking for pitch to be a guy. Let's say turn him into an outside wide receiver and that may be mismatch problem. For a lot of wide receivers he'd lined up a lot outside. Atlanta but waller was spectacular. It was a fund monday night. Football game and a Quite frankly the. I didn't know what it was gonna be like to start with the running game for baltimore. Run the ball still the thirty four for one eighty nine five point six per carrion two touchdowns and truth is good as lamar is eighty six yards event. And you know that's always going to be a. He'll probably he'll well. I'll guarantee you. He'll eat rushing this year without. Jk dobbins with. Tim hurt all year. Is that and lamar made some good throws derek carr made a bunch of good throws in a jacobs. They didn't run the ball. He was like middle of the day was a notch questionable starter. Yeah and it was an illness. But it wasn't covert so he finally touchdowns only ten carries for thirty four and he is a monster but for them to survive like they did or they knew they had to throw or was at night when they were throwing a ton and in carthage fifty plus times last night he six times two guys over the weekend. I think it is the second one. I don't think berle get to fifty throws even might have brady and i did. And it's the aberration. Berlin through twenty seven towels. Borough somebody's cousins is a forty nine lost the winner. But there's a couple high. Oh herbert through almost fifty times and they want as well herber through forty seven right the winner though brady all those other guys. You mentioned loss loss loss cousins forty-nine prescott alan lawrence through fifty plus golf through one right then brady threw fifty and one brand of depressed last night car through fifty. Rarely do fifty throwers win. Now brady uses. It is an extension of the run. The car had a monster game with all the great football guys. Think about it. I i was going through this last night. We'll take it. We'll come back and talk about it. It's going through it last night on a show with somebody. I thought you start to roll through like in the nfc west garoppolo had if you looked at garoppolos numbers and didn't say will. The controversies gone on with jimmy. And they're going to play some. You'd say if that was if that was russell wilson you'd say hell of a game i'll have again through for over three hundred complete averaged seventeen of twenty five average twelve yards attack twelve point six percent think about his game russell. Wilson's game matthew stafford's game at kyle game all in the same division all one and the worst performance was a three hundred yard performance and twelve point two yards per attempt and that was garoppolo. Yeah because they only had one touch slack and yeah and then you think exactly you look around the league. Oh ho home car comes out and finishes the first week of the nfl by tossing it over time and throws for four hundred plus and they win unbelie by. We got a lot to discuss today. And we'll have some fun astros with a fifth. What fifteen to one idea if you made it all the us. Seven o'clock go in and ask siri. How syria did sports talk. 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Yes current stuff now as tyler like say. Give me all the white women. He's definitely taylor swift fan. How you bring me the white women police. You're all about the white women white women at so you say where the white women be. That's what you want to know. Amen it yeah right now. they've been. I'll be inside though you talk nonstop decide you wanna protect. You wanna protect all the ladies so you come out later. It's obviously i'm just curious. I guess i'm just curious. Du you afraid of the sisters might be too much drug main. Just can't handle it no not at all. It's just not my thing. It is what you wouldn't be able to survive it. Could you handle can you not. I could survive autumn. I i could as far as going out with the latina. I've done it before i done spicy for. You are just not great experience. Yeah okay so you want to know where the white women or why women that tyler if you're white and you're for a heavy on air if you're looking for a guy talks on the radio and says dump stuff. Do you think that heavy t do you picture him with one. Hundred and three pound like Really thin gal He goes bigger. Goes home somewhere on twitter. Where where do you think he is. I don't know that. I don't know either tyler thick or lack of thickness somewhere in the middle so a little bones little meat on your balls but you don't want the either want the full bone in by with some fat or out. You don't want that. I mean. I'm more about personality anyway. So full of crap i. Oh i'm a nice person. Nobody said you're not nice. Okay so if i bring you a mullion that's a slump buster. But she's nice as hell. You're gonna you you love her. Slump busters tyler here to love. They really is. He's beta love is now what you just. You're thinking of this rain star but you wanted to stay home and stay safe where the white women at. That's what you wanna now. That's yeah that's where the white women at that. Should i know that that's what blazing saddles. Oh have you seen that movie. Yeah one of the great movies of hit that wartime this. is tyler. Thought this is tyler steam this morning at where the white women at tyler fiction you sit in a bar in el monte california l. bodies that your crib right you've been el monte several times. Yeah there you go l. monte and walk in and there's a few latinas in el monte too is you know right there a couple of somebody's yeah that somebody's there. There's some good good good latinas their you roll your rolling into the to the bar and you're wait. Did you say that or do you make sure what are your friend says. At the where the white women hotline. I roll under the that just flock to me. It's simple one more time on here. That one more time. And where the white women at tyler's motto facts only show here. This is a factually show. Heavy t. I the idea that lasts today. So your your twitter. You're not thin but you're not sick. You like a little bit you you don't you don't need one where you come up giving little tap and it come back and hit you. Four times dangerously skinny. I'm getting you cheeseburger. I'm sorry got to put some meat on your bones. Oh you don't want to give a little tap and all of a sudden you're hitting their pelvic bone. you need a little more concerning lee scary but that's guinness. Yeah i hear you. Maybe a little feisty maybe too much for either desisti candidate says he can't handle any. That's i mean he can't handle much. It's a reason why he's looking for them on the air. You'd probably like a really milk. Graduation really milky white lady. To right like i hadn't seen sun about six about sixteen years. That would be your style. They'd almost see through fluorescent. What does that does it. Transparent transparent. what's that seat. There is a transit with us. Translucent lucent yeah translucent the translucent white girl that we're just trying to find tyler yeah. That's what matters that's all we're trying to do. We need to get him on a lot of times like dating apps and do it for the show. I'm on bubbling hinge bringing us content from here. That's my bad but we need to make you bring us some kind of content weekly from here. Like a daily segment of tyler. Women at they will call where the white woman and he rolls through like certain. Certain that you're not in that you swipe on that will message you. You should just send them like random messages that make no sense about sports or something to see what their response is. What's that what's that. Swipe thing the one eagle find guys. What's that called her on that on that we're all wipe it and have you ever said that we're all the white men. I never have now. Okay so you say. We're all white women abby. What's what's the you said. What's the first one he said bumble. What's that isn't that something wrong. It's a it's a version of tinder. It's been on. the it was. The clipper sponsor for wa. Didn't lakers yeah. I think the. I think the clippers might wish which is like is that a clothing store kind of. Don't get anything from wish. It's always wrong. Okay one no. Bumble is no longer on the clippers. Damn honey honey. Oh huntings the app that saves you money online deals. Those are the fact that the student knows. Every single thing in one of these tyler can name them all fascinating all right. So you're going. let's even on the first one. You said so bubbles the first one dumbo grinder. What's the third gra definitely. Haven't been on. What the third one. What the hell's hinge is another one of them. Is it do so. What's on like what kind of is it like. Fall in love side or bankside. That one's it's a mix of both it is. Yeah you kind of know what you're getting going in type of thing all right here for a time not long ago. That's name the singer. Drake scares me. He said drake champagne papi is he likes to go champagne papi. Yeah okay. So we'll we'll keep we'll drake no. It isn't a matter of fact it might be one of the king's right. He he might be lucky. Yep i shouldn't say might be. He is the king. George you damn right. If you play one george strait song and your trash. Tuesday i will come in there and punch you in the mountains in fact it was listening. That's not a threat that the guarantee listening to it yesterday in the morning on the way to thing. Yeah i've been listening. Those kicks country kicked y to country every morning coming in. I've just been on weird kick at least this week. It's been country from me. I'm with you so and as well as into seven forty looking for real talk today by the way about the storm and everything. Ktar hr sister station seven forty. I you can stay here listen. They're legit like updates and talking about doppler radar update the real pro stuff. Go to ktar h. Just say it was raised on the drive in. Be careful. doppler says it's gonna rain more today. Be careful twin. That's what we got here. Matt thomas on from seven to four in the morning i had to work astros for him last night. I strike warrior hashtag. Where did do sometimes. I wanna run not a warrior hero. He sat in a chair. Praised the bald. He sat in a chair and talked. That's right matt. Thomas i said it bring it on. Let's fight to he's asleep. Tell me stars. Only seven to four was just a country club night from at tom. Basically what you're saying just sitting there talking anything unbelievable. So yeah you just roll. We just rolled through eight different services and tyler. I mean before you got out of your mouth. Oh that's where you buy clothes or you don't want to buy their. They don't feel we need to be quiz. Dumb yeah stumping. I thought i was the wealthy useless. Tell me what you tell me what this company does right. I'll ask one more for you before we go to break. Tell me honestly. I mean how deeply you've grinder. I know what it is. I'm not okay okay. If you were audit what's the swipe left main interest interested not interesting so long. I've been on light bright means you're interested in correctly all right. So how many guys have you swiped right with zero not. There's anything wrong with. I'm just curious absolutely zero. So are you into white men though if you were going to be used as a kind of like a year for the ladies well ladies only man so you know. You're not going latino. Or what are your fellow from the narrow strait. Aided he is he's on fire this morning. he's he's doing it on fire this morning. Last time you logged onto Honeybee or not how but said no. What's the hinge last time. You were unhinged. What was it last night. You did any night zone there. I was more focused on. The games was on that one for a brief period. Remember how that one works was. You're not swiping right. No there's just like a like button hit it similar because the like buttons on the road. Anybody can message like it's not up to the you mentioned. I don't know so that's the thing with bumble is. The check has to be the first one to message you. What is kind of interesting so with hans. Anybody can do it. So they they. That's find true love. Oh yeah there you you fall in love on hinge right. Yeah okay. Do you realize that. I mean the sincere. It's not like just a for radio. Schtick i i've never in my life looked at are logged onto a dating site in my life. I never thought i would do it. her pride about twenty fifteen for low. Bit before when you're singled back. Yeah and then. I did after i broke up with a girl for a minute off of it. All right well day break up then. I really got on it the second time. Just you know. I would imagine. They're print money at those sites right. God i gotta be printing money all right. We got a lot to discuss in a lot of laughs to have its tuesday another big football week coming out of a baseball astros win big if you stayed up for all of it. God bless you seri- homered twice alexa. Didn't and i'll by the way if you need your inside dating app. He's a dating app himself. Like for instance. If you call in and say okay gimme five girls names on grindr or guys names on grindr. Tyler's got it for that's falls sports. Talk seven ninety shod sales brochure whitsett vision dot com today. Isn't it today. Need great vision. I when you really think that we talked about all the fun stuff you can do. When you're take that film away from your is lifted off. You said oh. Why didn't i do this earlier. I was doing that. Saying i wanna see. I wanna play golf. Where it's not wearing contacts and i know it sounds so elementary but senior ball down golfer for people to play it really kind of important to us but i also know it's changed guys vision when they're playing sports. 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You'll never get a person to say a bad thing about clayton so nice tremendous human being a good football coach for him. I think i do. I don't mean that. Disrespectfully just never been able to leave protocol. Yeah he'll be fine. Hell i'm waiting for nick. Sabin to happen. Come on and be like panel and be ready and doesn't just ball hog all the great coach who've been fine fat he. He went to u. of h. E. comes you've h from a good football coach memphis or a long time to. His father was a hell of an offensive line coach In the football you know. And so i Kim health i believe is is is his name. His dad was a. It's his dad. Kim helton kim. I've lost my mind here. Look it up my rank him there you go so you got football. His blood and i think his brother he was coach. You've you've yeah. He's ninety three ninety. Nine and i think he. I think he was a line coach. Either side of it. A book coats the big fellas at some point time. If i'm not mistaken off his line coach of florida office coordinator miami. The bucks oilers had been around awhile and so clay. Se gets fire and it happened early. I know people speculate. Urban dante williams is gonna take over that job who's great recruiter and the players respond to him at sc. For now the interim he will not keep. The job doesn't matter what goes on. 'cause they're scheduled s he's got two more suppose tough games now stanford wasn't supposed to be as the stanford of the past that's given fits. They've got ucla late. And i've got notre dame and other than that. They don't play organ washington and it sucks. Anyway i really thought this is going to be your. they did. Yeah they really could now. Is there another loss how they're always good for arizona state or one of those teams sneaking up and giving them a game right. I mean that's just it. But they got that with stanford. Somebody called me over the weekend buddy to china. Got this come to couple. Gosh i bet this. I said let me tell you. Don't bet this game by fourteen points even at home. You're probably making a mistake. Stanford's always physical. David shaw understands how to play them. We are a finesse team. We don't know how to close games out and put your foot on people's throats against good teams and stanford played poorly the week before david. Shaw's good coach got it. I said if i was year wouldn't bet sc. I'm not and i'll be damned now. They beat they got beat up. Yeah and so. And that's the problem. The physicality at this program see the program wants to be fiscal. Why is that program. I mean i know that it's in your history people in la but why is it. Where are they so gung ho about. All we have to be a physical brain like. Why can't you be physical. Today's off there so turned off any read about the air raid. You'll realize the air raid. Offense is basically what runs college football. It'll be physical in the arid. The kansas city chiefs are pretty physical. Yeah i mean you could. We'll look at alabama alabama's is physical as anybody in a country thought forty times which don't understand the hesitancy offense because we don't line up in the i ever they don't up. We established run. It's all throw throw throw throw and when you run into a physical i'm just telling you fin- i'm fine with this i just i just don't understand the whole like every every. I read something about usc. All the alums only they only want old style. Football my dad's that's an old school arrogance. Because we lined up around student body right and dominated with marcus allen. Oj simpson mike garrett. Charles white that group and guess what reggie bush. Those guys aren't on this team just yet and so the priorities of listen. I'm all about throw shoot. I wanna throw it. But i also know this got to run it. Here's the problem you get inside the red zone. It's third one old. Usa didn't matter what you did. We run it. We're going to stop you. The problem is constant. Spread when you practice like that. It's hard to turn on the physicality when you run into stanford or michigan right. We're alabama when it gets too serious. Listen i said it. I said listen finesse. Stuff will come. But i can't be a finesse team. Then all of a sudden say hey this week. He has wanted to be physical. But i can have a great quarterback with great listen. You're recruiting in sc man. That's been the i was reading. Says reading bruce feldman stuff last night with the his list of names from people that he's heard that will be on their list and he talked about mario cristobal number. One eight hundred. Because he's been stealing all the recruits from california and they play physical. Here's my first priorities. And i didn't see bruce's i see everybody speculate. You're gonna hear. Luke fickle the athletic director hired him at cincinnati. He's now our athletic director casinos reading that what. He's on the list that feldman hat but he said the fickle has been very choosy about where he wants to go and he would prefer to stay in the mid is time quite sure of it. I'm quite sure but you know how much they have a connection. He'd menges ohio state notre dame. Those jobs aren't coming open. And if brian kelly has already said when he leaves freemen's getting the job. Yeah the the defensive coordinator. He's he's made that point extremely clear so now that can change. but that's the case. And who says other gig. He said how stace to hire steinbrenner a date. Maybe he's about the. I don't know what the age is between him and they can't bear barely now. Forty yes so. He's not going anywhere anytime soon unless he left for. Yeah so i understand why look tickled wanna now. Maybe if jim harbaugh some happens in michigan and jim doesn't wait now. They want fickle. But i don't know bottom line is when there is a relationship at least if can't far at least make the call you're not gonna you're not gonna turn down the call three a half million in cincinnati right. It's offering five at listen. Listen now five in the mid four three and a half in the mid west probably about five and a west coast. Wouldn't you rather live in california. The high as much as cincinnati's top tintin let's face facts. it's cincinnati did not get the same recruits. He'll have a better chance to the national title if he's air but you're gonna hear these names. I love crystal ball for the very reasons that i stated one is in your right alumni. I listen i. We got a lot of arrogance in our school in our london. We just do. We think that we can still lineup. With bruce bruce matthews and five stud. I ran off. Its picks and throw it fifteen times run at fifty and beach. You and others games you can. When you're playing weaver state. yeah okay. In a non conference game utah stanford. They're just as physical as you. Now i mean th and recruiting one is you cannot let like. Pete didn't but guys before him. Did jon robinson didn't you can't let the best players within one hundred square miles. Leave that statement. Leave your school then. Go to oregon and alabama clemson in texas. And you gotta keep them there. That's one too is i want. Listen i want a guy who can rip it around the lottery. You kidding me i both. And that's the great thing about alabama clemson. Guess what you can have. Boom can have both you damn right you. There's about a dozen schools in this country that you can have both you can have both at. You should have both texas texas. A m's proven you can have both. Now they're trying to find the quarterback but we know they'll they'll be physical and the way their quarterbacks me out for a while. cnn that's that's tough for you. look at michigan. Michigan's physical is problem on problem. They haven't been able to throw the ball. They can drop it in the ocean standing in a boat right now. I mean in their past right and so there's that ohio state gives you both on offense. The problem is they're getting to the point. Where just becau- here's what people are old school. Usc alum gotta get. We'll go to break. And i'll come back discussable. Old school alum at usc gotta get over this. Well when you line up in the gun. You can't run the ball bull crap you can't it's a mind set up front and how you practice it. Physical first nasty. I gotta have mean nasty guys. And i gotta keep recruits in la. Then the finesse is gonna come by getting the best. Look human and go through five. Quarterbacks now slow. This is a good player. Five quarterbacks in the last two years have left and gone to schools outside guys. right isn't brush cucamonga. cj strahl guy at clemson all. They're all should. Jay is should be going from southern california to the east coast to play football right especially when he's right there and you've recruitment seen him every frigging friday night. Yeah sportstalk seven. Ninety wooden merciless. You're listening to sean salisbury. Real texans talk on sports. Talk seven nine hundred this trick. Yeah terrible terrible music. Tuesday tyler throwing at us. But that's only do on tuesdays on tuesday up And we're talking as c. and alumni needing to get out of there. Yeah you gotta be. You know you gotta be physical and only physical or you can't win far from the truth so far from the truth. It's ridiculous but i am. I am master. I can tell you a big. The two biggest reasons we haven't been been dominant. Is we have not when you practice finesse. It's hard to turn it on in a game. That's more physical than you and if you can't take punches and have a hard time delivering them. It's one thing. listen. I'm very complimentary. Mama modern but i'm critical to so i can sit here and tell you. One is the the fiscal they get pushed around. In the line of scrimmage both ways when we were winning titles with pete carroll john robinson their pete carroll's team had incredible finesse players. But when we meet the lineup handed to lendl white three or four times in a row six times ever do it yet. They'd wear you out on the offensive line and defensive front seven run around and beat the dog crap out of you and we had secondary that. Come up and greets you pull models in the mark carriers and the tim. Mcdonald's of the past. We've had i mean players there that did you even if you beat us. When you came out of a game you've been in one yeah stanford looked when they came out of this game and beat us this past weekend. I would imagine some of them said man alive. I don't even need to go get treatment the next day and that's not a good thing. Okay so physical and cristobal topless the questions with all those facilities all that money or why would he leave exactly now. I know the the but don't they get just as much money poured into the program basically at this point with with the facilities. maybe more. and we're a. That's a lot of money. I get it. Also it's the southern cal. It's a blue blood powerhouse program so when you think about five six schools in the country over the course of time that you say it is a that programs one that people when you say. Usc and but there's no longer than when you walk down the tunnel. Here's my question. Does this generation of player view organs that school. Yes more than they do us which is crazy. It's crazy thing about because oregon in like my lifetime has been in my prime college football lifetime. It's been great. And i view them as one of those type of programs. Let me tell you how concerning it is. There's a seventeen year old kid in high school right now in los angeles at one of these great schools that knows more about oregon uniforms than he does about marcus allen they're great they're great at creating and marketing themselves turning themselves into a power rights. Not just the uniforms the truth that they know more about if i said who's markelle sound or or what what. What what you know. More about the uniforms at oregon or marcus allen heisman trophy season. And that's not. That's not good now reggie. Bush is still on the cusp. Because everybody knows bush if he wasn't there's about we're about four years away another college class four years some seventh-grader who reggie bush. Now they get my point so but they they they know who the hell trevor lawrence right. I know bryce young is young committed. Seo and now. I'm thinking we're gonna alabama. Those are the things that can happen. You gotta keep them before he got there. The same thing was happening. The kid who went to modern day high school was playing. Wide receiver oregon. The kid who played tight end is going to university of washington. The guy who decided he wanted to play arizona state or the big one decided. You know what that tax. I like texas. Who nick saban alabama. Oh man florida state sounds fun to me. It's got to be the other way round for it. Sounds arrogant but it's true. Sc should be rolling into florida. Saint mike williams. You come here going. That's just the way it works. But we're not gonna think that scott changed and that's exactly why they jumped out. They're gonna play this season out a long list. Fickle dan mullen hugh freeze james. Franklin matt campbell. Remember all the buyouts that are going to be part of the chris. Peterson's dame's gonna come up. You're going to have assistance. I'm brian cabell. Would be an intriguing name for me. i'm taking some other assistance around people love. Your name will come up jeff. Fisher's name is gonna come up change. Franklin by at penn state would be four million has nothing to. Us they'll write. That is as as tim. I really buyouts are nothing. They're paying klay hilton ten million dollars not coach his botts ten million. And i'm telling you right now that it do installments but they could write the check. The fact that usc has a ten million dollar buyout on clay. Helton and penn. State's got a four million on james. Franklin tells you everything you need to know. He's and and the fact that the clay hilton protected you protective you put out on a guy that quite frankly. It's not exactly like people were standing in line to steal him from zebra. And why would you. There's a few programs you just don't leave that job for to go maybe to the nfl. But you're not leaving. Usc in their prime to go to ohio state. You're just not you are leaving. Cincinnati go to usc. You may even leave certain other school but in their prime when you talk about it. You're not leaving. Us to go. Coach at penn state. You're not leaving. Usc to go coach at iowa. Not saying they're not ever lebeau. Usc like you said for the nfl or from what. What alabama clemson. Maybe yeah texas because taxes was still told you. I've talked to three offensive coordinators a handful of years ago one two three out of seeping giant. That's way they finished one for all three guys choices. I mean there's one. Well maybe this team but texas and they all loved. Sc and one of them was a guy who coached conference. Yeah so i'll take texas and southern cal because you know money recruiting base. You're going to get players. And people love los angeles the media coverage in and people love texas. That's austin so s he's got to get back to being physical but this caught up in this crap of our alumni thinking that we're arrogant enough. Think we gotta be run it fifty times no what we gotta do is have a mindset that you wear people out with necessary. Have a great quarterback that dominated can bail you out but in the process if we need to run a ten times in a row to win a game you can't they can't right now. Now at certain teams they can but people that are on their equal now. And i don't mean this disrespectful at all it's like for texas or there's no way no way we should be going into a game and thinking oh arizona state's got a chance against us now. They beat rt. I mean they're athletes should be like a house day in alabama going into every game thanking play. Our best we win. And you're and you're pushing for the final four every night every year. What's the one thing. Oklahoma's lacked physical defense right now and that's kept them from winning the national time. Everything else has been phenomenal. If you're not physical in this day 'cause we talk about all the finesse spread it out. There are spread out the tampa. Bay buccaneers spread out. You know what they are. Though they kick your ass at the land scrimmage. And if we don't do that we're not gonna win. You better get a guy who knows how to do it and keep people at home. And if you don't keep the best quarterback in the country in california from walking up the state organ or leaving the state walking up the coast of oregon or had been coached. Nick sabin now sports. Talk seven ninety this doug ali. Here's what's trending from the iheart. Sports network presented by jack in the box. The astros exploded for fifteen runs to crush the rangers in arlington tax. Starting defensive tackle vincent taylor. We'll miss six to eight weeks as he will undergo ankle surgery. Receiver anthony miller expected to make his debut for used it and they take on the browns sunday monday night. Football the raiders. Rally to stun the ravens in overtime. I'm rhonda moss one in six kids. Could face hunger due to the corona virus this september. Visit your local jack. 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So you know getting coaches and what you don't want there can be an i. I started to think teams that that things have changed in college. Football man they. They have changed immensely from the air. And that's then that's a problem at my school my moderate se and it's a problem texas. It's a problem at florida state. It's a problem at miami toe you. It's become problem michigan. Telling you michigan michigan's one one national title in. It's a problem and a lot of schools. There's a lot of schools. I have elevated view of themselves when realistically there's only in the last ten years there's only been really only been to schools that have been like a handful of programs with schools. That have been around. The i mean. Oklahoma deserved amish. Lsu championship but for the most part bama clemson oklahoma nine win team. Most saying the truth is if you win it if you win nine games a year it's great sees at lsu now but that's you get beat by like alabama or arrival. You'll get fired right and to me. i mean. sometimes it gets a little silly and even at times. You've got to be realistic about what your program is. Historically and then you've got evaluated seized by the seaside see notre dame's been in the final four feet just know dame hasn't been able to close out. They've lost a lot logic. Games getting close to big games to me so much there just name value. That's where they get their right so they're even kind of in it too. Although brian kelly think about this brian kelly close to being breaking newt rotten eggs. Newt rock these records the all time leading cozy notre dame. Yes which is fastened. Bryant's done a good job. But notre dame still not the notre dame that when you walk into when you walk into southbound asked toledo. The intimidation factor. There's no fag me when you play them school and i played them like. We've seen a little bit schools when they play them. I i'd go in. I'm gonna to we're gonna kick their. Let's just call it real and this is me talking about my program at the top of this list as they are going to be in a coaching. Search your name speculated about i would imagine our ad probably has ten in mind and before you know down to five and by the time the season ends they'll be about three. They may interview eight of them. But there'll be three that they're like that's my target and would we want to pay to get him out. And could you convinced. Dan mullen deliever mario cristobal or is there some name. You're saying a frigging love this guy. He's confident that the has i can tell you. This did even before this. Why they have a list that list while clay and then he's got a real data analyst last summer before the season started. Yeah okay okay. If this doesn't work. And i and klay helped like i said mike are as the utmost respect for Who doesn't but it's it's a different job than texas coaches have found that out recently so and we're hoping it works for sark. Here's the deal. I'll start with my university fight on the private school. There's a part of us that lives in the past. And i get it. That's what alumni doing we should. Because you're used to winning. And i mean not just winning but dominating and now we still got great players but the problem is the pieces are better than the whole puzzle that the some isn't as good as the parts. And if you can't and it starts with. That's what nick same best recruiter in the world. And then he coaches his coaches. And if you don't coach them right. The coach gets the coaches out. There's a buy-in across a five star guy the third guy and you even hit that. I'm not sure. I wanna play here than see. How can i help you. Pack replace with the next guy. And i know there's an arrogance about it but oh well they've earned it. And that's the way the trojans used to feel honest to god they did now and in texas and the you but we. We flashed victory. Sign right now when you walter. It's in the other schools looking at you like noga. And like i mean. I would feel like for me as a texas tech fan if they lined up against usc. As bad as i feel about texas tech the game with them why wouldn't it stanford putrid last week and physically manhandled us. I've seen it happened too many times. That can happen once every three years. Jail every four years of that. It can't happen once or twice a year nine wins. Se losing either ucla into notre dame. Both you can't keep the job here you just can't i hate. I don't actually guys advisors texas. They're flashing hook him hook. 'em scares nobody right now. Now i'm holding. The hook is doing the horns down and dealing with that and so when you roll in. We shouldn't be a mess. Still this day was the dumbest thing. You're not Yeah he's got hooked him down is already got. I don't know why people have gotten like as a kid growing up if you didn't like texas that's what you do and it's become a sensitive topic. Were babies at baby like. Oh my god you can't do. The horns dow up personal gras field. And you're offending somebody. Well that's society now we've let it creep into sports. If you smile at a guys you walk by and look down at him. There's nothing offensive or wrong. We're doing the horns down. Yeah anal- listen kind of like my trojans societies soc- society's been softened the ucla when we play them they put dollar bills in between their fingers and do the fight on meaning because the money and all that rich private school were kicking your ass carpet. A nicer part of town there in the great part of town. But we're the private school with a lot and they're not yet houses. You had the houses surrounding usc the houses surrounding usc at our school. And i'm sure they do there. But our campus like you'll walk down fraternity sorority row. And if you see a chevy love pickup truck like by laugh they wanna tow it because they think it's out of place that four door beamers and stuff that i could never for you know. Like oh and then they go home to their huntington beach. Jared in their newport beach bread on the weekends and stuff. It's just kind of instead private school with money right. I mean that's how other school the pac twelve or pac. Ten at that time will that's how they do to dig it to trojans i understand it until you fight back with toughness that they're getting the best of us at times not all the time but went planning but they do it at the thing that they're not keeping their players quinn you or southlake carroll somebody else they're gonna play it. How states at alcohol backs that have been in this state. Whether it may go back to go back to manziel you go back to robert griffin you. Go back to a mere debris. Nick foles all these guys that get out of there. You know obviously manziel in griffin played at tech schools but like those kind of talents. The ones fine like man's going there is fine. But like if you're texas how they've whiffed all these that's that's been the big despite all the bad coaches and everything. Texas biggest issue for years haven't had the they haven't gotten a quarterback. That's that's good. I mean they've had some guys that are capable could be indecent. The outside of cole mccoy. It's like what are they done. I look at this state. And i think i go out on friday nights and watching the kid that's going to texas am watched him play last week against my guy. Maybe great quarterback duel last week. He's from ridgeline and he's he's a good player. Ben moves around. There's a football moxie about him and my guys just a sophomore more one of and he is he. He's a guy that everybody for. Lsu everybody's recruiting yet. The some having often scholarships and couple of them are in the state of texas michael. I know it's just turned sixteen. I mean you some of these kids. And i'm not saying but some of these kids like what you fifteenth to the party. Why should i turn around. And say you're the at and here's i guess that validates this you could've done that if you're texas and sc in florida state. Miami fifteen years ago years ago. The problem is now. These kids like below oregon came to me. I and they got speed looking all these uniforms. So i'm moving there and you're not good enough for me to jump into the fray late and think that i'm just gonna flip because well you decide unless you're a legacy in your dad played there now. It's like screw that. I'll go play alabama man. I'll kick your ass. That's or oklahoma. Wanted me from the the first time. They saw him as a sophomore. Well then i'm gonna go be lincoln. Riley is next star quarterback the best pass rusher at alabama. You get my point area and so you get all this use stuff. The you don't scare anybody ray. Loosen clay and redone play. Michael urbanites the same thing here. Bruce massey's whether early two thousand. Yeah bruce matthews. Marcus allen ronnie. Lott they plan for us right now and we john robertson john mccain coach jimmy johnson at the u. and the swagger getting off vinny testaverde's all those guys that would you play university of miami or saying you look at university of miami right now when you play him. Who by wait. Oh or it's man but we get. This is a. This is our setup game to get north carolina. What quiet basketball that see. What i'm saying. It's changed that and if you don't keep up you get left behind. I just named you florida state. Miami texas am for a minute 'til jimbo's got their southern cal they it's all like. Oh and they weren't around with history that our alumni like usc you got history. Well guess what coach say. Last week we won. Nobody gives a rat's ass about last week. Fifteen years ago reggie was there and blinder guess. Who's not there those guns thank you. We're we're control the line of scrimmage and reggie's averaging nine yards a carry bill. Sorry buddy you gotta find somebody who either demands it or you run that player or those players out or you don't recruit them. You can't keep your own guys in home. Why the hell would any listen if somebody if you've got a guy that leaves their state and you've got to go to the next one and you're recruiting basis kansas. I don't mean to disrespect kansas within your your trouble you better dominate your state. If you're florida southern cal texas the texas goes you'd better keep these guys here because within about fifty square. Miles there's enough to feel the roster of dominance. Can you do it and then go get a stood outside. se needs. They better find a guy who demands it and he's willing to shake hands and kiss babies at times because you got to hear them it is nowadays you gotta do it because those alumni or handing you a check that says this is five million. I just wanted to spend the tight end position this year. Unbelievable sports talk seven hundred. This is craig busy bed. You're listening to sean salisbury. On sports talk seven nine. Oh fuck your home of the stroz. Third sean salisbury steak. Out steakhouse on the sean cells. Barillot if you're anywhere tyler. Simply ask the question this morning. We're all the women that he wanted to know where yet girls. Tyler is trying to figure out where the white women at slide into the. Dm's have you ever gone huge tyler. Not that there's anything wrong with it. Gone big like two plus. I wasn't expecting that question. Start stakeout yeah by that there's nothing wrong with it honestly. I didn't mean. 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To plus i like that todd and you know what i love about you. I'm with you van. Personality i do. I know you loved them to right when you go on on bumblebee you love. 'em right bomb blogging. Isn't bumblebee your transformer. Transformer with shiloh buffer. Some right okay okay. Bumble your fall in love or like eight times a day at least twice a day and i i'll tell you ain't nothing wrong. Go to plus two. Plus i mean tyler said google has beats a couple couple of looking for love. I i don't hate you for brother. He know what is what it's all about on here and you know what i think. That's a good thing. And i am very wrong just like you know. I remember in college. My girlfriend and college one hundred three pounds did one hundred three hundred and three hundred sixty five hundred three hundred five pounds. She was a song leader. The only reason. I said she was tiny tiny. I'd never played tiny to the point. Where whereas i could like pick her up yet with one hand i could go all the hutchinson from michigan. I could. I wanna hand in the lower guy on the on the the leader jazz. The guy who catches the you know. Throw them up and catches them to tiny the florida stapler the other day after the game when they lose your jacksonville state. He goes and proposed the sideline after the loss. Jacksonville states staged background celebrating their victory. And he's over there on one knee and somebody said look honey just did it on twitter and went viral. Lick honey we lost this game. But i don't wanna lose you nice. And then they got the split screen. This boise state beating. Oklahoma propose jacksonville state beating florida. Stay to stay propose. Yup yeah Different let's hope. The wedding turns out better than the game for that. Don't get married at florida. State game autistic. play jacksonville. and. I can't complain because well stanford's not jacksonville state. But the the moral of that story is don't risk putting on the board and ask girl to marry you if you're not sure she's going to marry you and if you're gonna propose it a game make sure. Dick spreads like forty-seven in you know you're gonna win. Maybe it was hell. I to spread was going ahead huge. I wouldn't have at jacksonville state though you might this week. I'm alright mc what. You've got the washington football team announcing that brian fitzpatrick likely out one. Eight six eight weeks With a hip protocol hips flex prob What is the exact terminology for. Ira's it's a hip injury Supply selection selection Should the washington football team consider given that they have ron rivera the head coach. Should they look into cam newton. I think here here's the thing doesn't sound like they will look into it. Here's the problem. If you soured on cam. Newton and carolina. Why all the sudden he's gonna chat. Why would you be. Why would you all of sudden jump through the ceiling and say and it may not be that. He's not a good football player or may not be. They didn't fit in. Maybe the system doesn't fit. Maybe ron just feels like we've been there done that. And what's good for somebody else may not be good for us doesn't make camps out good football player it just means if washington doesn't do it the did they just don't think it's the right fit for them and it could be a lot of different reasons well our system. Maybe they may maybe cam's not the full time starter all the time. He what happens when fitzpatrick gets health. Go exactly so. I think there's a lot of at the hands. Some coaches will have a guy back just a lot of people. Don't want me. Because of who i am because of because of the or of strategies now but people don't want to be a backup he said but i will and asked me. I'm state new english. That i absolutely wouldn't so i'm sure it will have for cam because it's an experience a former. Mvp in it then in a super bowl but the fence gotta work too. Because you know how that is. You can be a town player if it doesn't fit. And if ron ron may still i'm sure ron has tremendous respect for him but if it doesn't fit what they're trying to do or they're looking at the big picture maybe it's not the time for them but they sure sell better. Believe that type. Taylor heineke can hold this thing down. Give some money off season yes and this division winnable all the way around. So we'll say town which you got all right so we were talking replacements for clay helton over at usc. But i want to look at two coaches who are currently well not coaching. And i want to get your opinion on both of them. Which do you see happening. Bob stoops for chris peterson. Listen bob stoops has been nothing but phenomenal in his career. If the two coaches again has to be him though right if one of the two coaches are you asked me. If i was essy who rather have or woohoo i think would coach i. Let's go with if you're se. Who'd rather they're both in analyst roles sitting on a studio set now. They're both bob. Stoops and chris peterson are are both in studio analysts. Now on the set analysts. If it was me no right today. Familiar i would go. I would go for usc. I would go. Chris peterson but and it is bob all in that. You have to ask you this. Chris all in. I don't want him to come in. And pass on bob student bob suits warms. And if he wants to coach and there's a high pressure that goes with that and listen on young any mind never thought bob stoops was done when he left the first time. I still think he's done. Yeah coach the xfl but asked. I think he's done it only sixty one. Six question is does he want. it's not that they see. Here's the problem coaching everyday for. Bob stoops bob. Stoops has fantastic. I frigging love him. Just west coast guy right and understand screaming for that. I'm not saying. Chris better coach. Bob stoops chris. Petersen's a helluva coach. Bob stoops as a college hall of fame coach in my mind. So the question you gotta ask yourself. I don't like the player that gets like later in his career. That decide will. I'm about a year to from retiring and you heard aikman talk about. It isn't the and seasons coach since two thousand sixteen hundred five years and peterson's going on what it's third or fourth year. Now this got to be your three for. Chris peterson yes. He's been slashed here. We wanna coach last year. Thought they had somebody else at washington. There's this his twenty nineteen. He was third year out. Yeah one thousand nine hundred. Twenty second coached in nineteen coaching because covert. It feels like he's been out a long else weird so he's more recent but five years it bob. Soups hasn't forgotten how to coach. The question is not during the season do they. The road off season recruiting all the rules. You gotta find those. Thanks do you want to do it. And that's what both i can tell you this. 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The houston sportsworld world. Yeah sean salisbury knows how to play the game because he really played that game. Yeah former pro. Qb right here. He actually has it on his name. Take former pro. Qb right here. Back to sean on sports. Talk seven ninety paulette. Who question the decision of songs today. By the way it's really isn't trash trash the banger trash. We're did you like it. When it first came out i was ten so yes what turned it into trash for. It did not age well did did not did. Can you guys name the astros player that you've always come to the plate with this song. Jeff bagwell ma give you pass. Wasn't richard hidalgo. I love richard kadogo. Mature dog oh we let the dogs out. Yeah it's it's still. I can't call trash little. Banger it is. It's nearly twenty years old next year twenty years old already. I believe it came out two thousand two. I think you're wrong last time. The mayors richard a dog who is out of here. I think by way was. He must've been here by two thousand two came out. Oh no it came out ninety eight dude. You weren't even close ninety nine recording released in early two thousand. And i was so they are the same. I was nine. The last time that song came out is when the mariners made plows two thousand one it was. It was out before they made the playoffs. There you go jayco to rizzi bank lead. We were he at right now. We don't know. Besides oto ami was interesting dams like all of a sudden he. He's out and he was running into first base to cover the base. And there you go. There's clearly dusty said after the game. It's where there's a there's a footage she put away on it for soreness. Yeah they had no idea. I mean they don't know exactly they hadn't said what exactly what it is. I would assume if there's gonna be an marai are of some sort today. we'll see. i didn't look good. Yeah it did. How go in assume he's done and he probably wasn't going to be in that rotation it does suck. I think he was out of the. I think that's what i'm saying. You know in a piggyback type of situation at some at some so hopefully. He's not done like as much as he makes me freak out when he's on the mound watching him pitch i. They'd need him. Because honestly like if you need to go to guy that's gonna give you two innings or three innings postseason open. You want to go to him or you want to go to walk. Mr walks a lot kershaw vier as much as i love khruschev. You just walk a ton of guys. And it's been a problem and i just With jayco too rizzi. Now mak- postseason. I don't think it was gonna be a tough postseason. But i don't like seeing by hurt plus innings as they go down we rotate get more work in having him in the bullpen. That body does matter. Did we hear any reports tires. Nothing yet so. I mean the game to end until eleven o'clock last night. I literally eleven o'clock right four hour baseball game and this has been the longest season of baseball in the history of time in terms of time to play games. It's just been stupid. We've gotta they gotta find some. They've got to find a way to not play for. Our baseball games. Feels like once a week at minimum. They're point for our game. Last night was the was the only though one two three four five six seven eight game this year. It's gone for hours. But i mean the amount i'd have to go through and count the amount of them that had been over three and a half hours. It's gotta be thirty forty games this year stupid which is nuts. It's dumb and i wonder what they mean. That's just for them. That's just for them. Yeah and these are. It's a ninety nine game. Shouldn't take you four hours to play. Ever ever got picked up. Pace had a bad pitcher pitching for taxes. He couldn't get any outs to start. The game he was given up runs left the problem. Long innings through like fifty pitches and inning and a third jay z. Through thirty pitches in his first inning That that'll slow down the need the pitching change in the middle of it. You gotta get somebody up and get them you know loose and that takes some minutes all that factors into but still we gotta get. We gotta get going here this. The panic of science stealing is still around legacy. The pitchers constantly going to those stupid cards. Whether they're in their hat or they're pulling out of their back pocket to go through different sequencing of of of what's called call signals for catcher stuff slowing everything else on the concert. Step off wave like it. You know yeah to fingernails. So they can see. Yeah i got you now. They're not paying the fingernails during the inning. I'll know but it. I hope he's okay. Listen no matter what happens. It just depth matters jae crowder rizzi. He'll give you five good ones and eight just after what happened. And they tried to bury that and move on from it. He's a body. That was neat. I don't say well it's not that big a deal. It's always a big deal when you lose a guy the brought here that has potential. That's giving you the wants to grind and that you need bullpen because those arms are gonna matter come season so let's hope it's not law and let's hope it's all k- but i don't think any of us thought that he was going to be in the starting rotation anyway. No i would have been shot. I think that there was still going to be a decision to be made if he was going even if he's only going out and look for his last six starts or whatever for five innings every start basically because i think he'd thrown thirty one innings in his previous six starts. He'd been really good. Was like well below two or three in the postseason and given the way that luis garcia has kind of struggled steve sparks tired but he has a he looks tired. She absolutely does because he's never pitched this much in his life like they could have made the decision. Hey older as he starts the game he goes and gets four innings five innings. And then we go to luiz garcia and that would have made some sense to me like as as much i don't. I'm not comfortable jake z. It was in play and it still could be play okay. But there's no doubt that's the key it wasn't a foregone conclusion was done i i i think most of the i said just a few minutes ago. That maybe a foregone conclusion wasn't going to be but you make good point in play has to be in play because we still got games to go and you never know what's going to happen. So what would think about this. What would happen if a couple of other guys were to be banged up or sore missile. Kiedis still stink. That's right for a start. In the postseason. His command velocity of. Just been unimpressive so far up. No question about it. Sports talk seven ninety. So we'll i guess it's kind of a day to day thing and we'll get report. Maybe from james click tomorrow today. Yeah it'd be nice if we could get carlos. Correa will be the station today to thirty two matt. Thomas matt thomas gusty baker twelve thirty to twelve thirty to thirty good for matt to get them both on today after a nice Ktar h weather report. He's just to that's a he. He wearing all the hats hashtag hero. There you go. Yep you love him. Slowdown hashtag held the statute outside the station slow. Let's go can't you. Well pride build one for dan. Rather or michael berry. I rather was wide. You put rather ahead of michael berry. Dan rather was the first person on the air katya rich. But have you ever heard of the czar. Well yeah he might even tell you that you make one for dan rather yeah. I would say probably that probably but questionable with czar of sports of talk radio. Hi five right next arms around each other. We'll build four statues. We'll have two on each side when he walk in. Dan rather michael berry on one side. Heavy heavy too. Yeah i would imagine that the michael berry would hold dan. Rather than the highest regard. I also would imagine their politics differ a little bit. Yeah just a tad. But he was. That's right rather was here. He was gave the first guy. I'm i'm gonna pine for a michael. Barone czar a statute for the station. He's prying foreign himself and we're in soccer shoes walking around the studio with michael berry you. We're we're those umbra soccer shoes yesterday for the champions league started when we talk about what a flex its as cavs michael berry's cavalry soccer calf off. Dude he'll challenge their week. He walks by bringing on old man. Sportstalk seven sean. South reshow head towards the eight o'clock hour. Great to have you with us. On a tuesday certapro certapro. Painters certapro dot com. It's sorta with the see. How can i make this simple for you when you get two man teams not a one. 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It's bad though just like the weather outside. Just like this song billy race Got three names. That's pretty good. Isn't it billy right now now. I don't think anybody named her name. Somebody billy ray. I just expect you to to have a mullet. He had one right all time. Driving home el camino. Won't the truck car. It's got two cds to one cabin up front. And then along marlboro reds. Some point your life. Your name billy ray marble read a never had one. What about a cool air. Smoking have never smoked. Cigarettes goes by the way those elkins six. I've never smoked a cigarette in my life. No interest dude. I've i've i've taken. I cannot stand cigarette smoke. I grew up around. My my dad was on all smoke. My mom's on how smoking for a long time so gross me out as a kid. I i'm a. I'm a big cigar. Guy matter of fact. I just about tomorrow. My like three hundred seventy humidors come in at the house. When you come to a party you're gonna have to meet your vote and it's not me. What are you gonna party. you're gonna head. Don't inhale it we got you. I've had cigar. Just put it in your mouth hole in your mouth while the cigar smoke. You don't have to smoke. Just see if you hold it in your mouth at it it. You know it's a it's a good taste. How how big is this that you're holding in your mind this car. it's nice. it's probably a foot long. Maybe not a foot long eight inches clipping. And i wouldn't cut off an inch for anybody for my nine inch cigar clipping not as well as got three hundred six best. That's all it is. Tiger tyler goes big at shaw does to regard is about I smoke cigars. Once in a while i got this nice big glass. Really cool humid one. I've wanted for long. I mean. I want it but now i have so you can store your cigar so when you guys come over to watch games at the crib and go hit that tap cigar with a nice cozy outside kitchen. I don't know what i'm just gonna live on. My patio did did either. I don't care. I'm such a simple dude. I am when it comes to that. I don't all the bells and whistles my bells and whistles this. I need cozy outdoor when i say cozy like really cool. Yeah we're everybody's there. I need a grill and a beer tap so you can ice cold and you can break out of it then a big old grill either if you want the egg or a smoker a barbecue and i've been put a pizza oven back there so we can make your own pizza. The buddy of mine has one of always wanted one bill thanks forever brick wanna. Tv's we're on college. We're watching on. Everybody can kind of come and go and there's food and grilling and then i gotta have in my office but the humidor the you just open it up you pull it out and i could stick you know. Nice big ten inch cigar toddler's mouth and that he the dude. It's nice cuban. What's wrong with you to this more. I'm just letting you. He unloaded new just giving it a second debris so he can get these clean without me. Let so when. I say a tinge cuban. You're thinking you're not thinking of the cigar that i've saying hey. Would you like to clip it for you. I mean come on man. Gets you a little flame. We gotta go. And so i i don't know man. We all have little stupid stuff that nobody else really cares about right. Just kind of interest us in a humidor at the house with the cigar that image. You like me now with my soccer in my life today. Champions league starts you know what. I'm gonna do wash champions all day long. You could have a cigar in your mouth and watch it today if you want it. That's assuming you have your house. I have power. She's she's home. She's working from home so this is still a power parakeets looking on and off all night. Halfway through getting dressed in the power went out so all that stuff of like bells. I mean it's nice. I love it when people have for me. It's simple a good size kitchen. A nice master bathroom and bedroom. And tv's where you can enjoy people. Anything i need more cat. Don't care we still need a lot of furniture. We still have had a lot of things to do those extra bedrooms in my new home. They get fixed last. Although we have bedrooms have nothing. Nothing but stuff in the calls. Where are you going to put your peleton extra beds. He can't come state or that's okay though gonna shoot. That's my point is for me. When is this kitchen and those damn i. I'm so like. I'm like a kid right now. I can't wait till my automatic. Like you know those shades and installed on the on the kitchen kitchen. So i could sit there all day. I woke up last saturday. Watch games out there for seven thirty in the morning. I'm waiting for my tv. Hey i'm going to get my. I've she's agreed. That i can have at least seventy five inch living room because we had walsh doug enough for in our house already had speakers in the ceiling that they built the house they put speakers in the ceiling so i just got to get get a receiver for it and i'm good to go so let me ask you what you said. You're what what size tv seventy five. You want. Seventy five inches. Yeah clipping that. Just go go well. Who does it but yeah. So that's i mean like sport so the so that but the little things like that. Well that didn't dare clip that to the little things like that i want. I don't need. I don't know why it's that big a deal because you can say we'll i'll just go by just have it okay. Grab it and i'm the next. I'm watching lee corso. We smoke inside. I will light a little. Sometimes it becomes a like a candle for me. I don't smoke inside. yeah to me. We looked at one house at one point. And you walked in and you get the smell of cigarettes. And we're like turn around and i don't know i i will not first of all i don. I said we're joking about smoke grits. I've smoked a grit before joking out or some. But i like to stick guys will stick it in like the top part of their mouth and they talk and up and down while they're they've mastered it. Cigarettes do nothing for that. I couldn't i can't i can't i don't understand the appeal to addiction and everything. I don't understand how you should start right. See for me cigar thing i dislike. I like the smell. I like the smell of pipe to i. Don't smoke a pipe. But i do like the smell of like when you walk into a somebody and they've got a pipe or they got one of those offices as old oak. I don't have one of those. My office is a little a little lighter. But when you go into. Somebody's got one of those houses. They got oak. And you know the. The leather chair smells like their pipe. Like you see in movies. I don't mind the smell of a pipe cigar smell doesn't bother me medifast a good one. I actually love. But i won't do it in the house at times i've lived. You know linda linda cigar and walked out but most of its outside but simple about three or four things. I dislike guys to you. Know what i put a revolving doors to the fellas can come over just head to the back yard. Grab yourself as gar and a cold beer. Enjoy tyler visa grab your cubans there. You go yep grab. The cubans is racist. Both of them the cigars. I wanna say that way but were we. We were talking about cigar. Yes you clarified cuban cigars before all do all. I'll get the smaller ones the other little smaller ones that have small cigars the smaller ones. I'll get the three inch or for you. I mean you're used to seeing those sports stocks ninety. Nfl quarterback john multi multi-front very this. Is the sean salisbury show. Sports talk seventy heavy. Tmc on tuesday be safe. I don't think you're gonna lay out today. No sundance just a hunch sundance now you could lay out. But i don't think enjoy it right layout my bed. That's pretty much sheets. Loves sleeping through storm's rains a little chill and rain or the best on a slip through it last night. Damn dog didn't move me up. Four thirty two of them were passed out. Don't move the chihuahuas by my feet. Keep my feet warm. Did you pass the chilupa now. She's she would probably eat one. I gave her the other ones sleeps on the floor next to the bed. And then there's the panic or our original dog and she just she's probably up all night with their heads. Every single knees anxiety meds. Type of dog. You can give them to her. Doesn't matter all really. Yeah would give those anxiety. Chewable doesn't there. You gotta get her stoned now. I want to try that. You not just force gummy down the throat dog. Kitty actually people like our conversation. Screw pita there i. I'm kidding but they do have these. Cbd things now for dogs. I know we've given we've given it. Somebody doesn't work sometimes so sometimes. These dogs are more stubborn than the dog on anxiety. Metria like some can't travel. You know what i'm saying. Our storms hit or the fireworks for for the and steph. Yes there's no doubt about. Do you know what my dog. Honestly it's true. I don't i don't like to talk. You know f-bomb sometimes come out of your mouth. You know dropping epo. Yeah my dog. Gla- like my own with my son and i'll send the first time he dropped and it was a funny one but you know you raise your voice in the f. Word yeah my dog ears go back and the comes up like a little wants to come up and kiss you like that word to her. I don't know is like she knows that it's it's not the right word. You always dogs are so smart like hey go grab your baby. She'll run in and grab the hayward where's carries a big old shoe size fifteen around when we're not there and lays in the bed with her bed when you when you leave come back and it's sitting in the bed with family members got to be around but if you drop an f. bomb in my home and she hears it sh- it's like it's like you gotta wash your mouth out with soap. Because he's like we don't say that. Oh yeah then like ours guys like it when when everybody gets an arguments right everybody come on man. Oh yeah they know they do the tony your voice. Just they start. Barking deers go back off. The park disagreed. Or even like when. I'm doing an interview and you get passionate on the radio. Show coming in my office and sit. Rex may look up. Her ears are back like pops. Are you no no no you gotta smiley face. But they're just they're used to hear. Just calm right. Yeah no doubt so Yeah those dogs are phenomenal man. They're the things that they do and humans. I mean they go out there and jason frogs and they just by minded urban long. Hey same here all the time and wants to go up and like liquid. Stay with us live alone. Leave him alone. My and nosy too. You know they're nosey. Yeah when i go into the bathroom to take a shower or like in the morning. She sits down out in front of the bathroom door before. I close it as if it can. You'd let me brush my teeth. Let me know when. I could get someone who taught her along the way that this is private that you've got to. If you want you got to do you want to emulate right and saw brush you can come in okay then wags are. It's dog surf trip. They are unbelievable though. Phenomenal and i think everybody knows that. And there's times well a lotta times. I think we all the dogs are so much better than humans so much frigging better. What i'm saying. They started you can fight with human. They don't like you for six months arguing that dog. You could tell that dog. You're not supposed to do that now. Goes to go to. He won't touch wet grass won't do oh they don't like it on their rear end when they're going so we hold it held from eight o'clock before he did not go to the bathroom yesterday until noon. Eight about seven o'clock seven thirty same way. here. Hillary went to the bathroom and put his leash on. I walked him out the front door of bush but he hiked it in right beggar on. Yeah they don't just doesn't my dog doesn't like to sit on tile because makes her rear end tile or when they'll go back to the carpet wait till you know the whatever the floor if it's a little cold don't want to sit on. Yeah it's hot out. Then they'll do it while panton wants him treats so speaking of treats. Do you guys do the power order. Switch for you after one game. We'll do them they. Power are the nfl power order switch for your free nights this week. No espn has. There's up hiding. They have as you well. Actually they have the same opt-in yeah. They've got the same teams that one to last week. Okay so Bucket here's chiefs chiefs buchan ears. Chiefs buccaneers okay. let's let me. Let's guess third tyler. Have you seen the list. I have not okay. This one was a big rise or this one was eight before the season started. Know seattle seattle. That'd be my guess is because the rams were in the top five am seattle's performance. I think on the road russ plays really well on the road. So rams are fourth. Yeah i would say at three three threes seattle fours the rams also five so seattle jumped from eight to three all right five. Guess new orleans. No five's team dropped. They took a loss buffalo buffalo six to be another team that took a loss but actually jumped one in their rankings. Six took a lot. Cleveland cleveland moves up to six from seven number. Seven is a team. Tomato jump got sore. Lot points San francisco next one is a team that was outside of the top ten eight. Now that i think surprised with the victory on the road. Pittsburgh pittsburgh The other one was eighteen knows not ranked anywhere near the top ten before the start of the season and nine arizona. No okay and they jumped into it. I just jumped into it at nine for example in new orleans new orleans. Okay before nineteen eighty-four arizona. They do not come in on this power rankings until twelve which is weird. They were down lower once bond thirteen with an mvp performance. Right right. and. I'm going to say that. The his parodies again or subjective and stupid so okay so we're looking at number ten and pretend to tina fell to the loss tendency. Nope not the colts. There's frigging took a loss. Let me think for this for second. green bay packers. They are they now. They do count as that but they fell to eleven baltimore. Baltimore fell from six to ten. In a what i like. Baltimore of their quarterback's dynamic i. I don't know man you know going into this game you guys wanna know. What the texans did you know jessie this party. They probably jumped ahead of the day. Jumped ahead of jacksonville. Did you have to head a jacksonville. Detroit and atlanta. No in the new york jets moved from thirty two to twenty nine and the espn power rankings progress. It was atlanta twenty seven. Yeah it's all twenty seven twenty three to twenty south. They're not good worst teams. I saw this weekend. The thirty second is the jacksonville. Jaguars seems i saw this week. And we're them. Detroit would have been in it but that fourth quarter they'd came and i'll tell you want to be able to score points. They can throw the ball. You know what else they're going to do. They're going to play hard. The whole time at dan campbell. Good set right. And it's like they've got the jets at thirty right. They they did everything right other than split two first-half slow i first-half. I don't think they're that bad but but they're not going to be one win. Jack ryan oh no question. This as far as the lions go for matchup. I wouldn't normally care about. I'm actually very intrigued. For packers lions monday night. Football two things about that which makes him. Well let's come back and talk about that because there's a couple of things was talking about aaron rodgers show last night and i'm curious about the dan campbell thing one thing before we go to break. I'll tell you know. Coach should ever have to teach effort right but you can instill toughness about how about. Here's the cultural building. And if you're not going to be a part of it i'll play a guy or keep a guy that's a little less talented wants to be a part of it whether you are not now talents. Always going to trump everything. But i'll take a seven that that is a. It's not quitting on me. Then i will attend. It's deterred won't you. As far as absolutely we'll come back and discuss this matchup. And some other ones. And the texans as they get set for the game in cleveland and are the cleveland browns. Do you think higher of them now or lower of them. Now because texans are on their way to cliven sports talk seven hundred h towns most complete breakfast collages. Breakfast tacos and sean salisbury steak. Don't forget folk view air holes yogi cleaning that microwave. Trust me more sean. Right now on sports talk seven nine hundred shirts issue sixty four sixty new york gangetic fan a jam. If i was a major league baseball player that come up with this. He would absol- lows songs hussein's this law. Right said fred what banger. He's legend a one hit wonder. Yes definitely it's actually a group a group rice. I love the love. Right said fred. Just love the way he's things could this right said fred. you don't enjoy their enjoy their catalogs. And now you and i can. I can get along. It's simple you gotta love. You gotta love. Fred is one of the guy's name of the group fred. You think yes. Okay there you go. The other guy's name is richard. That would be fred. Oh the other guy's name richard. Richard i thought i said the guy named fred. You go yeah. The guy's name is rhetoric but the other guy all right. Listen cleveland's the next opponet for the texans who came off a an impressive win against a bad team but when you play bad teams you're supposed to hammer them. Yes even if you're not a great team and they did so there's that now before we get to the detroit. Well let let. Let's get to the. We'll get to this cleveland matchup. I you mentioned aaron rodgers because there's a lot of talk. He looked disinterested. I was asked last night if i thought the off season at something to do with this performance. I i'm sure there was something to do with it. You know the late camp and getting his rhythm. Two things i know about this. One is new orleans. Just kick our ass the better team this week and probably a better team. I don't think the green bay packers are going to be in the super bowl or playing in the nfc championship game. Didn't before the season started. I just don't. I don't i don't want talking to lorenzo neal last night the food grateful back. We'll get him on here. Played for all those years. We were talking about it and he. He made a point interested. Most of the guys. And i'm not saying he asks you guys know how i feel about aaron rodgers. Hell he's a each smell. Yes i mean. I can't begin to tell people that think that you can just be some average guy. Throwing like heathrow's even great players can't throw he throws whether you like him or would he went about his business and green. I'm just talking about the football player. What he does is really unique stuff. That very few think about any job. You're and when you say very few people in the world are as good at it is that ever. He's one of those guys now. The packers looked overly disinterested and maybe the ass kicking early had something to do with it. But to me one of the safest bets in the world this week for playing well they're gonna is him playing well this week. Because they're playing a detroit team they lose yesterday to the or they lost the utah. The detroit detroit. Lose a defensive back all jeff. Khuda achilles is a he's out. Yeah and and so rodrigues as gonna play. Well out of the dan campbell. We talked about. I don't teach effort. And i would imagine dan campbell doesn't but it seems to me after one week that they're taking on the we're going to battle and then they gave their point favorites. They push the forty niners to to to the brink. Now the problem with that golf through two touchdowns late and back door cover dude base a better team What i don't like about i. Just it's hard for me to understand how you come out and you're supposed to be that good. We didn't see it from seattle. We didn't see it from san francisco until the fourth quarter. We didn't see it from tampa. We did the great teams did not want to come out and not play your best game with another thing to come out not show up. They just didn't show up and i'm concerned about their physicality. I am green base. Listen with rogers. Do you can link your way to ten. Wins and that division. The i mean minnesota's why they're winning division but right chicago looks like when they finally go after the first weekend. They're not better than the saints in tampa all four teams in the nfc west or bedroom. It's over i'm not. I'm not saying season's over. I'm not saying i was gonna change between now. And what time we get to the play and aaron rodgers like. I said a great score keeper. He'll have something to prove anytime. Somebody says something about him. That's he doesn't like he. He's knows what they're saying on all these national shows he'll come back and be fine like i said for me. One of the those beds is like this might be a safe bet in the world to have he ain't having i wouldn't imagine he's having too bad ones like that in a row. Now we'll see if detroit plays and the rest of the team. But i would imagine safe. I just going into the season. I wasn't as overly what fourteen and two or thirteen and three last thirteen three. Is that what they were home. Field advantage throughout the ad thirteen games. So they were. They played like thout great team. I just don't know and lawrence o'neill say told me something really interesting last night. And he he loves to he goes. Sean looks like he's checked out and you know this if he's checked out meaning either out of green bay or is disinterested cartagena three last two years. Hard to play your best football. But every time i counted with this but it is aaron rodgers right and he doesn't seem like the kind of guy that wants to go through a season after having an mvp's and back it up with just a subpar season. I think i i do think there. Performance was the aberration. Yeah i did that. They're not gonna live there. But i will get a little bit better idea. Where their head is this week. I would expect him to play well. And i would expect them to that to me is i know it's ten and a half but vegas is telling you that they think the same thing we do. This could be an ask and by the packs idea so that'd be one of the biggest lines of the week. yes no doubt And cleveland browns. Line to the cleveland line by the and what was the we say. Eleven or twelve and a half the tampa bay. Line over the falcons also twelve and a half yep you're gonna be one of those three games. I think it would be. I would bet tampa over. Lana speaking i said atlanta's horrible do neither bad horrible speaking of tampa. You guys see tom. Brady's video yesterday. I did so. He made sure he basically said oh. We have a big game this week. He took a twenty three shot. Or whatever no this dude made sure to include the time of day on the computer behind him and it's at three twenty eight. That's i hate him so much did. He's one of the greatest underrated trolls on twitter. I will give him the. I don't follow many athletes at all. But i do follow rate troll on twitter. Sneak care about his little dance crap in his big bitcoin. Little things like that. Yeah he just granted out. Here's the day. I'll dude three twenty three. He's he's a brilliant at knowing that somebody's gonna find some subtle in it and it's going to be as subtle as a hammer to the kids are great when they team up together for the match the ultimate. They're both great on right social mania and they sometimes throw something real quick atucha and then you'll hear it and then you wait a minute. You'll go back like the three twice. They'll say something involved in it that will get you paid. Manning does that to pay get some digs into watching it last night. I was going to go to that at about a at incredibly or nine o'clock phenomenal. But how does it feel is the first time you've had to face. Brady is falcons fan. Since the no played twice lobster forget rights code yet. We're to ask a closer going to first time with fans that he's going to get the young. I'm ready to cry. So don't be ready to cry. Just accept the loss in bet tampa bay even though you like atlanta by your brady jerseys christmas right. I won't burn it in front of him. Come into the store and you can buy your discount. That's me tommy. You gotta let you don't want a jersey of the goat it up now and it'll probably be very rarely. See three double digit lines. In one week in the you'll see a bunch of them in college football. Nfl not various. No other game. That the raiders. Steelers didn't have a line yet. The next closest is denver minus six against the think about this against jacksonville. What are you gonna make if you throw five hundred bucks on a three team parlay all those double digit favorites win. Prime make some good money. Yeah but i don't know. I couldn't big i mean you're you're expecting the the box and the browns. The win by two touchdowns arch you. Yeah but like a for. Nfl games where the lines of the margins are. I told you. I would have been more comfortable with the texans going into cleveland. If cleveland would've beat kansas city. Because i would think that there'd be a little bit more we got this man we got this and and but it's the fancies pretty grounded with this. Even if they would've won he would have said do like. I told you i don't discount. This team played pretty frigging. Well the whole key is if you keep them to three point three yards a carry their defense front and tyrod doesn't play the same as he did this week. And you don't get they don't get the turnover couldn't be you're not priority gonna get those real chance. The text won't be able to keep up like we think a lot of matchup. And i don't believe the one thing we haven't seen yet is i don't believe there. Hac down team. But i was impressed with their performance against a bad team. I would have been impressive. They don't want sixteen to thirteen which i expected. Seventeen thirteen win by three. You know win the bet move on but to hang with. They did thirty eight thirty seven on them. That was a little shocked so they took care of a really bad team but they beat them in major fashion right and played the entire game. Really four quarters of pretty solid football. So cleveland beyond watch. Don't misunderstand me one bit i. I believe that wholeheartedly. But i would think that it would have been easy for them to say. Oh we just hammer can't city. Oh yeah we've got these guys coming in this to go down in terms of gambling. Lives they go in. By you know a touchdown late of the three while. I'm pulling for the texans. And i hope they can keep it close if they get after they have to generate some pass rush and they're gonna have to be man a grown ass men in the front seven to stop that run game but you're tampa beard. Land atlanta was so bad and tampa was really good against dallas. Maybe you can see in a divisional game or matt ryan actually made that throw forty eight times and he may go right. Think the back door teams. Please don't be. But i am tempted to parlay all three of those Partly all three of them in a bet with the lines are that high hundred bucks. I'm thinking bigger than that now. I've got like nine dollars right now. But i'm thinking more reward not just just for the hell of it but i'll let you know as we get closer and return. I would imagine. Matter of fact. I'm gonna punch it in and see without hitting the confirm but that's right. It's a fake one cycle monopoly. One cleveland lines up so it didn't take long to go. I'm hoping the battle is there. I will talk about cleveland next and we'll also talk about what what did i say. I wanted this manning last night right. We'll hit both those and fans here. Seven one three to five seven ninety. Do you hold the browns in higher regard after last week or are you same old browns. Good now not the same old browns. Your dad's browns or your uncle's browns of your bigger brothers browns. But the browns of the the the good twenty years ago. Maybe it is your dad or maybe it isn't a brother who's fifteen years older than you. But i can tell you this. This is a different browns team. But i wanna know where you hold them higher regard or you just looked at and say of course they were going to blow it. Where are you with this sports. Talk seven ninety. Sean sows ratio. Meant st clinic mentioned clinic dot com guys whether it's sluggish little bit of depression that you're saying depressed. I'm not getting into the gym. Feel might my body feels soft tightness thing up a little bits muscle growth. 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Who's the best one hit wonder song of ever of all time Seven three two one two five seven hundred if you got at the best one hit wonder. I've never asked that question. The best one wonders song them all time. Thank you break. Your heart is pretty good around. Yeah he's had for me. It's dobie grey drift away. It's got to be one of them for me. Just pull the websites who tickets to paradise. Tequila. that's eddie money. you call eddie money. A one hit wonder he was totally a one. Hit the hell out of here. Oh stop five. Tom petty one one beatles wanted wonder coordinator. Yeah there as well. it'd be. He calls him a no hit. Wander there is. I'm gonna die on the hill. The beatles suck. I don't care. I i i can understand their contribution music everything. Their music sucks two tickets paradise. Good cut i wouldn't look at any monies wanted wanted but i don't know anything else. They'll be great. Did drift away is right. Now tyler you find out for him so he knows you can pull that up when you get it. Just kick it in for drift away. Just trying to look. I'm looking at lists here. The best one hit wonders raining. Men by the weather girls that was number one on this list. Mock arena is number two great one hit wonder that one of the great songs. I'm trying to think what else there's a song. Why am i lose egg you break. Your heart comes. Fourteenth on this list is red bone on there. They say a lot of songs didn't they but they got one. This is the band. Yeah the name of the band is red bone could pull that up for second. Name me the song see. How many cuts they had. I missed out on a bunch of not on this list. Okay then let me say they've they've had to have more than one hit. And i know they have but the one that sticks out all the time i've been red bone on on google and it comes up red bone marrow. Red boneless see here. This is still active right again. Give me their top saw. What did you tell me one. I don't know this song. Yeah this is. This is red bone those dobie grey for. Now you tell me. This isn't one of the best. Always look at a guy like this. And i say do this is such a smooth sound and to get into it. How the hell did we not hear. More widespread bone is best of albums. So they say yeah can't be because they were good but they have one that sticks your love. That's it there you go. I just don't know all the time. I had a bunch of red bone song names. But i know that they've been around a long time. They've what they've got to be thirty years right if i was the my nickname my yes. Is it an activist. Nine six nine. I'd nicknamed my team or my band. The red rocket since nineteen bone. You go say do you. Like drift away now hit up. Red bone wired. Leave that on. Why you're going to find a red bone Come get your love. Oh you know another one that you love. And i can't remember who sings it is at one of the is it. Stewart something stewart jemaine stewart as not a one You don't have to take your clothes off to have a good time. You ever heard that cotton hall. We're playing the one wonders. The rest of the day then do qualifies for trash. Yeah yeah so that's why. So this is this is one of the great one hit wonders. How did dobie great ever come up myself. There's something else came when you got red bone. Come get your love. let me know. And then you're gonna find what i what is loved by hathaway. Great greg cut list so whatever this this music seven one. Three two hundred pop music. Great one hit wonder. Oh yeah now tyler find. Take your clothes off to have a good time. You don't have to take your clothes off. You remember this. yeah now. Red bull been ronald like i said you ran. Shoot the one they always play. But there's some people out there right now. I imagine my biscuit right now. He's sitting larry some old guy. What's our guy. Brian who loves music. Our guy brian. Yeah he's a he'd probably sit back saying okay. We got ourselves from some cuts. Yeah so this is a fair to be one. And that's not trashy that's a great cut. You'll find yourself when you're when you're driving down the street. You gotta sing the song man. Can we get you just have to. And it'll perk up your energy all the way through remember correctly. It's the first opening song in guardians of the galaxy and it sets the tone for. Yeah this is tone center here. You go decent song. Yeah okay you've got the other one now. Tell me you don't like this cut. Fc you don't have to take your clothes off to have a good time. Give me give me one second. All right i. I would say that. That's right now right now that you'd say it's alive. You can't dry dock and have a good time you do. You do always here. A fraud proponent of like the astros win it naked and take my shirt off you listen to this song after a championship run. No it's just again. Jemaine stewart not germane store one of the something stewart. Not germane stewart. It's something stewart. I believe it. T- take your clothes off. It should be easy man. You can't find it that easy cut now. There was apparently a different version of asking. All right gotcha. Do you find it. I believe so. Hit it. And i'll tell you if it's it what plane the plane. The one hit wonders on a rainy day. Because well we want you guys to and even work to your home as you should be hip to be say. Yeah say so. We've got people this. Just just let this role for a second. I'll tell you we go to break cheesy. Oh it's young. it's this cheesy as it gets. That's why it belongs on trash tuesday and this song. I couldn't tell you anything else. They sang maybe they. Maybe i would know if i heard the song but this one this one like you're taking a shower is your clothes off and he starts singing along even though you know. It's a cheesy song and you can't understand thinking it bingo. Let your keyboard. Oh yeah i've seen this your little energy for you. Right sounds bad. It is bad. That's why i asked for and it was a one hit wonder. I think they've seen more cuts. But this is the one that people that you always hear back into debt. Give it about thirty seconds of. Take us to break tyler. Let's get to the chorus take music. Yup she's wind the guy. Nah nah. nah you'd take your clothes off sore. That's the only way to have accurate. Sports talk seven ninety one hit wonders or wait not them. You don't have to take your clothes off to have a good time but maybe you did sports. Talk seven ninety. Take them off. Come right back. Hello haters from la to new york her up and kiss our ass astros. Oh goodness this is sports talk. Seven hundred home of your astros still 2017 champs about it sean. Salisbury show continues right now. They've been pretty bad now. Anyone eddie eddie. Money's no one hit wonders the point still trust on. You really thinks it's not good. Yeah but he's not a one hit. Wonder you'd said billy ray cyrus is good. That's at least catchy. Has dance so your ass. Don't billy ray cyrus and eddie money. Come on you better. Heavy took billy ray all day the mullet you love the mullahs check. It grow on mars to currently for. You should try and do. Let's just see what you grow your hair out on. Yeah so there you go and you know we get what my sharoni. Who's saying my show. The knack is my guy said. Let's get here some other. One hit wonders some brian and will one hit wonders We've seen athletes. I mean some one hit wonders and athletes to have sure how shine for a year and never heard from again. Yeah we have we have seen it or for a game or two and then that was it. Let's get to brian brian. what's up. Hey sean you don't be clocking brought cover artists where you've been. Yeah i know with all the you. It i tried to call. You never can get on. Well we're here brother good to have you on then that that's a great one much wrong about that. Guy was already shaping the one about driving attacks we all over the place. Yeah chambers tax joe brown. Yeah i know the song you talk about. I don't remember the beat. But i know who. You're talking about blinded by the light. Oh yeah i forget who. The band love blinded about a times by man elected copan. He's fed longhair pre people. Out of i like. Why do brian would be good to give her a call. All these great was the one before that Signed sealed delivered. I'm yours no not that song. You're talking about a different one. What was the song the song long hair people. Yeah me now. I know who you're talking. Keep singing but brian. What was the one you said before that would not my sharona but was the other one. Oh blinded by the light blind dried ally find out. What have you ever went up wrapped up like a deuce another runner in the night. You get what's that brad obligated. Who actually did yeah. We're gonna pull it up right now so you can hear a brother. I hope you're healthy. Be safe out there. It's great to hear. I love you guys and you know feelings mutual brother. Thank you if you drink today. Don't floodwaters yet. they ain't go will. What's up a couple things where you Dobie green one other big in the sixers. Okay over and over and above drift away. What wasn't The in crowd okay. So he won't cry. If hugh hewitt if you play you might remember it huge gigantic okay. So all right. Yeah my all time. Favorite is one that everybody lose group while cheery. You know what's wrong all yeah. It's it's play that funky music wipe boy right. That's that's one of my all time. Favorite one one. I forgot forgot will. That's a great one wild cherry. Play that funky music white boy. I love it one. One of the men were. We'll hit that in a second for you will. Thanks brother appreciate the call. Thank you we got. We got wild cherry and blinded by the light. Do you get blinded by the light yet. See the thing is i. Don't wanna play those. Because those songs aren't trashed satellites. Good mix in one. Hit wonders too. So we've kind of crossed over today for the rain. We're giving people because they may be a little down today. Can't get to work on behalf right. They may want to hear it like all of sudden. You haven't listened to blinded by the light wind. You say all right well. What's wrapped up. Have you ever looked up to what it means wrapped up like a deuce another rohner in the nights. I'd like doobie all dude. What a great start to cut marks. Stay right there banger. Dude is they using blow. Madame up told me i got good intake. She i love this. I like it at the end win. Their harmonized says revved up revved up like a deuce not rattling running tonight. Okay what does it sound like rona right. That's why you gotta love the cotton right now. This is this guy's rolling on one one. I think this is the knack. I think i'm sure there man for man. Yeah this isn't the knack it's manford man is that he would ask. And the hookah knack. I don't know what they saying. But we had a twitter person calling land for around for seven years. If you're not if you're not putting pumped up by this just got the laser it does. It's just a banger at the end of this song to when they're going one guy singing this and in the background you can hear the chorus and the team and you could hear them harmonize in a different part and at the end of it. They're singing one part this thing and the other and they come and merged together at the great cut man. Also my god this song as long. It's seven minute. Yeah and we don't have seven minutes but we're gonna take marks call. We're gonna come back. We'll open the nine o'clock hour with buck. Cherry cherry wild cherry but jerry to. That's not a bad one. Either but wild cherry play that funky music white way mark which you got. We've got about a minute before break brother. What's happening all right. My wife told me last night. I was one wonder. How long did that one last mark. About thirty thirty seconds fifteen. I got three three real quick play. One can't say ninety six tier in the mysterious nice suit. Ninety six tears spirit in the sky. Norman green all. Yeah spirit him big time. One hip yup. The last one was venus. Shocking boys tried venus. We got you mark. Thanks precious What caller called in saying the song was actually written. By bruce springsteen really the double. Check that man fred. Ma'am we've got. We have got wild cherry. We've got spirit in the sky. One hit wonders on your special tuesday as well as well. Last week's game be a one. Hit wonder when we cleveland browns against the texans. Let's hope not no fool's gold. Let's keep this thing rolling although maybe a little more difficult trash tuesday with your music. But we've added a little one hit tad because some of these one hit wonder pretty smooth and good wild cherry next sportstalk seven nine and tell you what's not trash. That's anything that you drink from tarbuck brewing. You're gonna love it and you know what you might not be working today. Now be responsible with. Don't go out and do anything stupid. I'm asking you sit at home under but watch some champions league soccer two and have something ice cold from car by bruin. Heck the astros play that. Why not have across forbach during the day. Have some ranch water heart cells. Maybe have the new love street light. The new love street light is taken off by the way crisp. Great light beer. If you're looking for the for a very light option very few calories very few carbs go check out the brand new love street. Light from car brewing. I promise you when you have. You're going to say so fantastic. Beer this is gonna be my new go-to beer and they have a lot of goto beers. You could talk about again crawford. Bach the original hop padilla. Their original love street. And there's just so many options from car carbonic I would go ahead and tell you to have them all. Get a variety pack. Because it's just that good check it out over to the store today. Load up on it when you're out on your weekends watching football baseball whatever might be make sure as always it's with something from carbonic brewing in your hand and as always drink responsibly. Bill quarterback john longtime friend. Sean salisbury. this is the sean salisbury. Show a shoot for one tuesday music early and we're going to one. Hit wonders late blinded by the light. Manford man wild cherry will thank you. Play that funky music. We're talking to you tyler. Play that funky music. White boy is not white though white boy. Yeah fun fact. i'm not. I'm not actually okay. I need a break dan. Your ancestry dot com all that you're would tell me what breaks down percentage. You know from what i know. It's a good chunk hispanics. However i am also partially european and for me. It's the european that shows. Because i am the whitest due to my family really. It's not even close. I when i was growing up i questioned whether or not i was adopted. There's no way you question. I did and i found out. I wasn't because i looked at a picture of my grandfather when he was my age and it was like looking in a mirror. It was crazy. i've never questioned. Who if i'm adopted. I look i look at my father. Said i mean he. He's he just didn't have the red hair on top of the here. Yeah i So tyler do your plan that funky music white boy. One hit wonders. We've played some. There's some pretty damn good one hit wonders out there. There really is. We're gonna have to get hit spirit in the sky when you fight at their bud for Is that. I don't like there might have been more than one spirit in the sky. I don't know what else that credence that's not. Ccr no no no. I don't know but look it up. Spirit in the sky and who does what about eight six seven five three. Oh nine is terrible. Song was that Hussein that tell me. Jenny who can i turn to. We'll check that out the same stacy's mom not who saying Tell me jenny. Who can i turn to. I will find out so in the sky. Was norman greenbaum. There you go. He and mark said it. So we'll take that one and then tell me eight six seven five three nine. We'll grab that high may what's up. How you doing welcome in was a man how you doing. Good but yeah man. The wonders makes music world. Go round isn't it agree what you got on your mind. Wow ma came out with one Take on me. But i got a couple more on that to the ultimate. They want wondering baby. Yup we do we. we've we. We played that. Was that on a couple of weeks for us in the club product. Yeah we had that into club friday. We're with you. We he was at the top of the list. Yeah there's no doubt we also got mix a lot with Maybe got back baby does got back. How many calls emporium some back. Maybe does that back that she maybe got bash. She got back. Who was saying. They're the person the room there for tyler. Hey don't don't feel. I'm latino but my birth superstars i'm white so i'm locked. Look thank you very much is what is what is the president. Call latinos now. What did what call it. He's got a name for him. Now he says the to crossover genders or something tonight is oh no yeah. There's a different name. He does he he. He's using some other form of it. I can't remember what it is Because latino and latina okay. let's use it. Let's just use the proper gender. When it comes to latino latino or latina. I think i love this. I will one day have kids and people will stare at me and think that guy's kids is that he's kids except for if they come out with red hair but all of skin and red hair. Yeah they're going to be ten. They're gonna be tan at least and they're gonna they're gonna white pale red headed guy and go. That'll be from his mom though. Has all from this this this bar here. It doesn't burn all right. Here's how know if you're really really either. A had a really white dwarf freckles on your elbow everywhere. If you have freckles on your elbow. Everybody's don't while you're driving yup frankel elbow strawberry if you've got freckles. I literally have freckles. In every spot on my body freckle archer had got him everywhere. Not a single spot on my body you cannot go in not find frankel. Let's hope there's no. I can tell you. There's rifles everywhere. There is at least one freckle every every spot on my mind all the who thinks this again to yeah tom. He's got a couple of signs gloves. You've gotta love tommy to tone the this will take you back now. We got trashed tuesday. Which usually bad songs on tuesday for our music but we also decided on a rainy day. Like just to give you some spirits. Some great one hit wonders. He always wonder tommy to add a few man. One wonders awesome. Yeah have you ever dial eight. Six seven five hundred woods there yeah. I don't think there's anything they're only only phone number. That's more popular than me and music. Is mike jones. Two eight one. Three three zero eight zero zero hit my jones von because my jones about the blood units eight hundred fo eight zero zero four. That's all song coach. Ulta eight six seven five three zero nine on right now. That's not enough numbers eight. You joe's number. My is number back up to seven zero. Six seven five three. Oh nine answers. Are we allowed to do that. Don't you warn them. He's got radio just say. I'm sorry if somebody answers say sorry. We have the wrong number. Just call them and ask them. I just just call eight seven one three eight six three nine definitely anybody answers. There's somebody picks up say. I'm sorry we have the wrong number. We were calling from a radio station. They say oh cool. You're running you better. Go catch it. Did you got ask just call somebody good hers. He takes all right. Yeah one wonders numbers not a working number. Well i i would imagine maybe all of the system just yet all the system people get just got tired of it. Have you ever noticed in movies. They always use five five five. Something they say. Hey five five five something for a number that you call if you gotta call us a phone in a movie and go from there all right. Eight six seven five three. Oh nine is not our number but seven three two one two five seven ninety. We'll get to your calls. We're gonna talk texans browns. We're having fun. Mix in some analysis and some laughs. We talked a lot about what the trojans trojans leaders the next head coach and if you want to chime in not just on that which you would look for as an athletic director in higher coach. Give me the number one trait or two. They have to have for one hit wonders. Because we're having a blast at nine o'clock here on a tuesday and hope your safe one hit wonders and man. We've been rolling. Spirit in the sky is coming down the pike mark. We've got that for you. Especially since you said you lasted about thirty seconds. I don't know what you did. The other twenty five. But it's great to have you on sportstalk. Seven ninety proudly broadcasting from the most hated city in baseball. Houston rides with sean salisbury. Show on sports talk. Seven hundred eight zero by the time. The songs start saying mark is already finished guy. He's old. i love mark. Though he likes he likes valentine with mama to compare japanese visual frigate. I can't i have a big bathtubs. There's no desire to do that. That marks made it famous friction with water marks rating famous on here a little dry. Even though it's the waters give my point. Yeah just doesn't work again norman. Green norman greenbaum there. You go one hit wonders. I told you my god. Biscuit would be listening. Because i know he's loved some of those dobie grey one. hit wonder cuts. What's he got this. What's welcome what's up man. Enough freak most see. That's another one man. He went all the way to number one. I believe about eighty two or something like that. You know who we need right now. Casey kasem selena number top. Nobody casey kasem. And then i know you damn well know about our guy on saturday running soul train though. Promise you that biscuit. What was what was our man's name on soul train. Don don don cornelius awesome. What did dick. Clark don cornelius and our guy casey kasem. He's still does american if you can. I listen to him when i'm driving long trip. He'll still do. Let's go back to one thousand nine hundred seventy three the on that day that month. Yeah american top forty. Pretty cool man tyler. Who you got that song. Tell him that again. How how's that the name what's the name. Let's see the freaky sheet there. You go freak out there you go love it when we when we say bisky. Last thing is I don't know if you guys caught the of a fight saturday night man but whatever saints in advance hold of be a step back and rain. They need to have a license revoked. That was you take the find out. I did not too busy watching college football. I did not watch it but there's nothing that man it was. It was painful. I mean it was ridiculous. It was paying for the man to see the real deal. Come on fifty eight years old. So i couldn't stand up and real deal alls i want from really minute. You know of interviewed him in person. A hell of a guy and you know what a career but i i i don't i don't want that vision. It's like when i see players have watched joe nemeth now. You know what i'm saying. I know it's different. I watch joan aimed. At the end of korean ramsey uniform. Where i remember he ran like a bootleg his knees were shot and i remember just as he got into the endzone he put his arms up like he had a football one hand his arm and the other on his iconic for me that he just went into the end zone and the players didn't hit him he kind of scouts into the end zone. It's like you're not expect joe and it was almost a respect like i can't hit you dude and joe's my all time favorite interviews. What a great guy but it was. Just i don't wanna see that. I see warning four years old. And he's fifty eight. I don't need to see that biscuit you're right and it had to be is source for you but almost gut wrenching him. I mean i understand the money. Why but we don't need to see that. Is boxing here like they. They gotta stop man they got to atlanta. Thanks on your raiders man. That was a while game last night. Man der der car look like an. Mvp didn't he played his ass. What a great man. And i asked the question yesterday now. We got to see that in december on the road you know. Prepare and against the team and inclement weather when they're hitting them in the mouth but baltimore's a physical team ops proud of his performance last night. And keep battling battling. I'll take my raiders. My my two sons. Were calling me. 'cause they're going nuts because they're raider fans to and it was a phenomenal a hell of a game last night. That had a little bit of everything. But i'll take that one. The question is can they sustain it. Because that was derek carr looked like i mean he had a monster performance last night but it was fun to watch. Yeah i think the Busy baltimore that's what i'm worried about. Say say that again. I'm afraid for baltimore. I don't know man. I i said the same thing today. I'm with you i. It's it's a when when somebody mentions baltimore. It's like i don't know man. I'm i'm caught. Then they could for two games. Make me think they're really good and then say we'll lamar jackson carry everything. He's got a care. That's a burden to carry all year the depth right now. I'm concerned about them to. I'm not sure their playoff team. I'm really not yet. I'm with you biscuit. Thanks but i appreciate it. We'll get the lay frequently. She did you see anything that makes you think that he's going to be a better passer this year last night. I mean i'll tell you one. That i loved one that i loved. It had to be cash. Was it in the second quarter. He dropped back and put his foot in the ground. And i didn't move around drop. i want to hitching. It was like three from the gun. Three and and through a deep curl route resent and a whole any ripped it. I'm telling you. I think it was the second quarter and ripped it and i thought okay. That looked like it was it. Looked like you're watching those prototypical. Throwers right back. Set your foot in the ground take a hitch and let it go and then you see like here's the problem with him. I believe i've never believed he was a going to dominate. You passing two things better. I don't guess there's no doubt. I don't know but that doesn't mean dude. His arms powerful. He's got great skill san when he's on the run he he's so dynamic he can make some of those stupid yes should be. There phenomenal phenomenal skill. Set there there's no question and and football he's got a great feel for what's going on. I mean sees vision and all that but it's not his comfort zone of. I have this question until it proves to be different princes. Mahomes ain't moving. I believe he can sit back there. Dope forty times beach. Aaron rodgers kyla murray is going to get kind of relief. Save for two years. He's a better thrower. Then lamar if i asked you this. I mean mayfield. Starting to get it that we know. Josh allen can guys that can beat you both but if they take that away now. It's a challenge to take it away from him his feet right but if you say do you have one of those well. We saw numbers. I start in a playoffs against the chargers. Really couldn't could do anything so he's more than ten yards and they knew it well he got better. He quantum leap won the mvp. He was so dynamic. And there's no question that. But i just don't know if they say listen. We were down to a tight plan running back or can you drop back sitting there. And they're not even that if they're not letting feet. Somebody's got a great defense. We got one game plan dude. You're beating me from the pocket all day if you could beat me. They're all tip my hat team about on a continuous base. I don't know and here's the other thing for a guy that so dynamic like that one of the hardest things to do is quit relying on what you know you do to escape and play like we wouldn't school yard in parkway say oh we nobody can tackle you and he goes and makes a play on the run that's where he's credited so when in out the first guys not there thing you'd think you go make a plant my feet because i'm better than that guy i'm throwing you see my point and it was hollywood. Brown ran like a deep curl. Route sat in a whole really nice. And lamar let it go. Didn't waste any time putting the whole boom. I don't know if it can be sustained. That's my concern that. If you take away his feet can eat beat you or does. He still rely on one bail too early to go beach on the edge. I think you're right about being concerned about them because this is the year where they've got all these running backs they're now. I've hurt. They need him to be everything. Yeah and like is he going to be able to take the next step throwing the football like a i think about the receivers there too i. It sounds crazy. I don't know if i necessarily want to be playing for baltimore. Receiver because your numbers are never going to be gray. And their and their receivers. There's a major in you. don't line up. Say there's five weapons that are devastating. Now you've got talented guys but they are not mark andrews. They got some good players. But i don't the passing game just the consistency. The passing game. Big on scrambles. Yeah i don't. I don't trust the constant from the pocket passer game and i think lamar jackson is a special talent. I do. But i honestly i'm concerned. And part of his biggest strength turns that into what we're looking forward to. I don't want to say a weakness but something he's still got to get better at. Because i know any of us in anything we do hell. I'm always gonna win in doubt. Go to go down absolutely right. Who isn't any golfer. I know for me wherever i am. If i can get to a point where i have an eight iron in my hand. I feel pretty good. Hit their five. Grab a safe. I have a six in my hand. That's club i. I feel like i close my eyes and hit it now. Sometimes i'll miss it. But that's a club and i pulled my bag. I say okay. I'm putting after the shot. That's how i feel for him. It's like winning doubt wouldn't you if you're 'em say okay. The first guys not open the second third guy may be open. But i'm better than they are anyway and i think that can become a weakness because you know that strength is so frigging big right so i am concerned about them and saw people talking about you know nothing stood out to me. That was like horrifically bad last night but nothing stood out. That's like okay. He looks like he's different here. Different there you know. I don't know if you ever want that guy to not him dynamic. The always wanted to be that player but he has to improve throwing the degree. The next grab a coach by them because they may be stuck again. It's one game it can change. But like i feel like they're gonna be one of those teams get stuck in that tier of like they're closed but the quarterback now being throw enough you can take them over the top that you can take away their being strength. I i agree. And i will tell you. This is not. John harbaugh any coach around the country at any level. That tells me we don't want him to run as much. I wanna grab them by the nap of the neck. And say are you out of your frigging. You wanted to run. But i've always wanted the point for me is but i also want him to before he runs sometime the other thing you see his legs should be his own check down like if he's getting to his third or fourth guy once in a while not as i get through the progression then go do your thing or if we got a built in run for you but i i know this that that france fights said russell wilson who do you think throws better from the pocket right now. Russell wilson jr josh allen. Josh take kyla murray or murray week you see what i'm saying. I think i could probably go through the majority of the quarterbacks in the league and i'll take them throw him from the pocket ahead him and then for the magenta always been that he'd be in the top two right. But as i always say. Find me the quarterback. Who's a runner. I in eight thrower second. I won't get you. You're not winning. Their many of those guys got super bowl. Is there any well. People say steve young was the ultimate partner with the league in pass. Completion percentage all that stuff. And you know who else russ wilson when he wanted but guess what russ. They threw the ball. Yeah that's exactly right. He he was a great scrambler but he threw it. I should he win. This was that twenty fourteen something like that. Listen russell wilson. We'll come back james. stay right there. We'll get your one hit. Wonder take as well. And we'll break down the browns and the texans and what to look for here at nine thirty. I can tell you this that pocket quarterbacks who can extend do both win championships runners. I throw or seconds second. Do not win super bowls and they have it. And i would guess that they won't sportstalk seven hundred. Wear a mask or wear gloves. Wear leather and chains reminds me of that time i accidentally walked into an sem convention. Back still hurts to speaking of back. Pay back to former. Qb sean salisbury. On sports talk seven ninety. Get medieval on him sean. Going medieval on the one hit wonder. We're going to talk about these grounds and vista made a good point my raiders who i love. I don't know if i expected that last night. But i was so. Oh yeah this. Stacy's mom stacy's mom one was kathy. Ireland is had the model is was the stacy's mom kathy ireland video. Yeah i don't know. Did she ever going on. Yep stacy's mom what do you think stacy's mom is. texans darlene. No no played by. Rachel hunter in new zealand is a supermodel. I said kathy ireland. That's exactly what is rachel hunter. My back she's got the island kind looks the same similar supermodel area boiler. Yeah luke rachel rachel. Hunter married to rod stewart at one point. He had the divorce from two that he annexed married ninety minutes. He doesn't say yep there you go. Don't tell me rod stewart's one. Hit wonder tyler. Maybe they got divorced because of this video so thinking about five. It's all tell you this videos no whitesnake. I'll tell you that. I've seen i know. God god restante soul. She died recently. Unfortunately chuck finley the pictures ex wife. I think she passed away within the last two months or so three months unfortunate and she was in that whitesnake video. If you remember all those old music videos sad story. I think she's in her fifties or maybe around sixty to bet. We see that too often. Now james what's up. One hit wonders. And we're about to break down the texans browns as we've and i wanna get from my partners is are the browns more real than we thought or the browns don't have close up. What's your one wanted james. Oh okay i have two of them. The money for the first one is A taste of honey by chiaki japanese singer taste of honey. Yeah and single chiaki. She's a japanese singer. Okay and the second and the second one is called magic man by robert winters in fall. That's a tremendously good song to magic man. Did you hear those tyler and false. I imagine man by heartless system but can't was magic man. What was the other one called Quote case honey by sukey hockey as the japanese. Okay taste of honey by sue chiaki. Okay gotcha we appreciate your brother. Thank you bye-bye. Thanks james taste of anybody. Have you ever heard of no. But i- wonderful recognize the song while tight we wanted. You don't think so. Tyler's looking for the one hit wonder. We've had a lot of great calls today. I love these type of days where people sometimes you know what sometimes just fun little conversations. Good when everybody's serious and breaking down analysis and we've been that to trojans zito who new head football coach dante williams. We'll be taking it over for the rest of this year. Great recruiter but the big sexy name. You can count on somebody people. No not on somebody. People don't joe brady would be a sneaky. Want people know who he is now. Is he ready to make that transition to doing the the head coach. But you'll see. Dan mullins name a lot of mario cristobal. Oh i've heard this cut. Yeah never heard this dude if all here. That's what you're gonna hear. I think this sukey ocoee this incidence. I don't know any other song. They sing. But i've heard this on this. Grab your partner. The high school dance hands on the lower back. It's seventy four degrees in houston matt thomas. Ktar h with doppler report. Doppler thomas sports. Talk seven ninety. Hit the post dollars. Important to hit the always. Gotta hit the post. You gotta hit right when the cut kicks in. You know tyler tyler picture yourself with you know you'd like say we're the white women at this is picture you at the white girl right there on the dance floor. Not what he's got when you got when you got like a ponytail with your. You said you wanted a mullet now picture. You right here at tyler. Yeah she smells your old spice on your neck. You just had a nice Nice like some Cherry picture myself with the mullet flannel sleeve. Cut off all jacked up. Look like kenny powers. Oh yeah good call by. I know this song case. Honey can't find that other one was magic by who again. I don't know who was by magic fan but yeah there you go all right. Do you think that the texans thank you guys for all the great one hit. Wonder talk texans. Fans look at cleveland. After that. And say ou. We're in for something or we got a shot. I think if you are looking at football without your bias involved. You're looking at cleveland and looking at that game even though they lost kansas city. You're saying i'm terrified of them and you should be i. I watched we talked about yesterday watching their two guys. Run the football. I think i. I don't know how he will stop them. Tritter but tonia there so loaded so good at the lines on both sides there you got size. They got speed. They got everything they do. They play denzel ward. They're good on the back end. They run. They've got speed on parameter even without beckham and the lineup. They really do they. Jarvis landry of frigging troop row his touchdown run on on the When he when he ran it in and took a hit and a second hit and got it in the i. I actually think he's the he's the one of the glues on that football team getting him for miami's one of the great gets the browns made i do But i think if you're the texans looking at the tape you need to waltz in their thinking if we don't play perfect we get are asking but you're going to have to play pretty damn close to cleveland. I think the texans to play hard for a lot of very close. Yeah i think you may be if they if they play like they did against kansas city. Put it this way. If the browns play like they did against kansas city in the texans play like they did against jacksonville which was impressive. And you know how. I feel about what they did but going into can't city and if i take away even if the planner drops the punt and and Tyrod makes a throw like mahomes. Didn't he kinda well he did in the game. This passionate cooks throw. That still may not be enough. They're going to have to do a lot of things before baker. Keiko baker goes twenty to twenty eight. Those guys run like that and it turned it. How many times turn it over. The the browns ice all the mayfield at the end interception and the fumble to was all three because if you turnover but you have to turn those turnovers points and it turns field. They tournament two points against jackson key. Better shove laying on the ground to one time. Yeah i think. Two of them were turned into turned into a points for kansas city. The one the drop punt obviously turned into points and then the interception by baker at the end did that just sewed up the game. And i do believe when chubb laid it on the ground that they went in and scored. The can't say chief. So i believe they turned it over twice and they. They lost a fumble through interception. Well they will data. Don't have late and underground you sure. Turn maybe fumbled. That they get back. I thought played it on the ground. And i thought that maybe they did get it back. Did fumble another one. But they. They recovered okay. So chubb late underground chubs fumble loss. Jamie gillan fumbled says. Oh it's better. That's the yeah. It doesn't say no turnover but he fumbled but because they didn't pick it up he picked it up got tackled. That's right and so there was a turnover on downs. But it's a turn determine no-doubt so it all baker's led to the end of the game but the punter and and And chops led to points. So you're going to have to do that. So it's gonna take a monster performance but i feel better about them at least being competitive than i did going into last week. Nothing against and it's not a moral victory to better something against the texas. I don't feel good about this game at i understand. They played well last week and they should be really hungry after laying down and they know you can't go down to you. Can't you can't lose your first two games if you're cleveland. You just can't make it up but you just don't you especially when you had cancer on the ropes and you can't lose to a team that people think so bottom five team but i'm going to enjoy now. It's time for them to quit. Enjoying this win focused. This'll be one of the tougher games their schedule the way. The browns talent level is sports. Talk seven ninety. Have we played it for plumbing. Paid jeff you've got more. Sean salisbury defect got for you left off on sports. Talk seven ninety home of your stroz. Adding paul guy tyler. You're that's a great one by you. Ohio player baby come back. Listen baby you can be like this. Cut tyler's slow down. Forum tyler tyler. Second about how we opened the show white women because he likes the white ladies wearing the mask of false bravado. See the love at tyler. Can you sing this tyler. We heard your voice here. You got it all. I cannot say you don't know the cut. Why am i know the company had on other words. Yeah man i. I'll tell you what. I pulled during this advice. Bullet i might pull during. Did you might have thought. I felt like i was okay. Fan my hair flowing. You know what i'm saying. I had Like wallabies on my shoes. My shoes my wallabies on my wide courts on to wipe wide the why. Why sports only one thing. Maybe maybe maybe the chocolate brown ones on and a really nice izod lacoste or no. It was more of the. What's the surf shirt like a. Hang ten shirt you guys know anything about. Ot shorts maybe now why they had those on the nut hugging opie shorts there's about eight million dudes. That are listening right now. Even though there's not that many saying i wore those show those ofi shorts. Great cut tyler. Did you get twenty four seven dino coming up after this and looking for it right now but i only got one thing on my mind right on. Why women here. Looking for tyler White women have you ever said his baby come back. Have you ever say yeah. Slide in the dmc. Did you wrong tyler. There was something in everything about you. Man that's what she said to her. He tell me that again worth all the white women hit that one. More time tyler. Did you lose it. Multiple things play. Can you tell me your you tell you paying. And where are the white women at. That's that's how much i love it. We're showed diversity here. We are the white women. The white guy does not like the white women does not have a white woman not going to be married to one. I'm okay on the tino front. And he's gonna get the white one. He's the latino or in a diverse town to the thing. I mean we can walk out the door and you might run into eight different kinds of second. You walk out thick thin fat skit. A lover here on the show you know. Why is this show it is. It's a show love. David come back. Sometimes laura voice to care lou. What do they call it. What do they call that. Era trump thinking of the word. Describe it. i can't think of it when you could work. yeah. I don't know. I think it would later. What this. oh this. Isn't the song now. it's okay. Well we tokyo yet. Is this that dino twenty mullet you see his picture it's just playing the music is it. Little it is. There is no question about it. Little feathered deported down the middle feather my hair. I think i'm going to. I'm going to go get extensions anybody out there. I'm looking for extensions. Advertising extensions did i really am. Are you guys gonna trip out. When i showed up we do. Yeah what you forget knit. Yeah exactly exactly sean here. Lila's extension gotta do it. I do it. I tell you this. Starting october first one doing. I'm between now. And then i'm going in search of the new house. I'm gonna crush kids in a fun way at halloween. But i i come in here. I'm going. i'm going shopping when i go shopping. I'm wearing now that mass i. I'm not making fun of the other mass. But i'm gonna walk in with. Mike myers mask with my son. Myers because somebody did they. Yesterday in galveston got arrested. Why that's all. I can come us walking around with a knife but he also is out there when hurricane hilda was hitting or whatever it's called say okay well mine might be a rubber knife gonna have that. Yeah i'm going to carry a seven looking like mike myers. No but i am going to. I need i need a costume. I need the mask. I'm getting the burger king guy. I'm going to get the burbank. Free kids out. I'm telling you. I'm gonna walk behind him when they're up asking for candy. I'm gonna walk into grocery stores. Or don't it's on a saturday morning where a vorhees i'm telling you what's the dude with the long fingers. What's that guy's name in your dreams already. i'm doing. i'm doing on the website. Graham did do it the whole month there was doing the whole frigging month. And i'm going to be that guy that walks down the freeway with a krueger mass on people looking like who's this big six five clown. I'm telling something. Get the mask doing it all doing it all i might be. I might become into a house near you on the your address. Good on the show. I used to work for remember when they used to do the steel of still a taco. Oh yeah yeah so one of the guys that used to work with he wants the taco bell. Gotta talk went to his car. Changed at twelve different outfits or got twelve different. Free take album had like different mass. And he all went along with it to he went in as like a cloudy started talking when it is a mad scientist. I'm working at jack in the box. I all they do. You don't have to keep making that effort twenty-five tacos you've made the effort here you go to treat on us but i am. It's going to be a fun month now. Going in cashed in on my and the music is going to be outside my pad. Could they be halloween music. You know thinking about doing now that require. I would love to like kind of dress up for halloween. Yeah plus the prices on that stuff. It's nuts it is to get a good one still got. I still have to replace. Glass shower door. Gotta fix a sheriff. Those kids still don't know how much people are trying to charge me for that. I think brooklyn you. It's got it's got tarp on it. It was just fine. They want to charge me six hundred dollars six hundred dollars for damn piece of glass. I'm not paying you six hundred dollars per glad. Always got the pete. Rose joe dimaggio option where you can you know what the old school we pull the handle down when they're in vietnam and pete rose said Joe damange said described. joe maggio and pete rose several. Let me he was in vietnam with me goes well let me just put it to you. Real simple jomaa. Gio seen him. Naked is a A penis with a man hanging off it. Like marilyn monroe. I get it now. I understand. sportstalk seven ninety. Let's get that glass fixed. Okay but yeah. I agree with your priorities. Halloween's more important than you. Taking a shower without stepping on glass. Okay there you go going. What's your address. You got your address right. Come over to the house with my phone number. Nine one one sportstalk seven ninety up next. Trench is with chris. Gordy andy clue. Big sarge followed by the matt. Thomas show with ross matt doing double duty like crazy. Appreciate him in the eighteen this afternoon. For heavy t. mc and for you guys. we don't ever take for granted. I'm sean be safe out there. We'll see in about twenty hours to white women at.

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First Looks: The Ice Road and Infinite

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First Looks: The Ice Road and Infinite

"On this episode of why watch that carnation instant bread. Oh you gotta love it. Oh man you're gonna love it. In rupert people are shown up in this and i mean just pop up leaving rupert friend i was like oh did. He was very goes. Licks is housing a newly house. They like that trying as irish the movie. It was hilarious to where you are stab it. You go it from the dakotas to manitoba happen. Let's see that movie bet. Maybe wanna come over and netflix tied with me searched. What's your favorite keep one waited prevent carpal tunnel. Why watch that. As a podcast between the critic and referee who go head to head on a quest to discover the best movie and tv shows. Hollywood has to offer expect the unexpected from critic clone. Nothing gets past the rat. We do all worse so you don't have to welcome to. Why watch that this episode of. Why watch that is supported by entrepreneur. Meal plan it helps leaders and professionals feed their bodies and businesses. Well you know critic. I got a chance to attend a wonderful event by em p. los angeles and it was so amazing because brandy cochran was able to gather people all sorts walks of life. We're able to gather together. Have real talk and some real good food. It was a hit. Its food for the soul and the body which is so hard to find so if you wanna learn more about entrepreneur meal plan whether you're entrepreneur or not go to entrepreneur meal plan dot com a. Why watch that. I look we have to. I look spree. Now here's the deal. These first looks are currently available if you have the right streamer who. oh so. this isn't something yuck to venture out to the theater to see if you don't want to and background. Both of these streamers i will say that bear indeed indeed and most of us haven't one of them these gotta you gotta password to and the other one is is is not new but it's really. It's it's reincarnated oh Look into something. I know how cheesy let's deal with the first one. I and you got a chance to see both of these i. I don't have a lot say anyway with it because This is going to be on you to tell us whether we should be to the street to watch like marina and sideways me. Sedro okay. if an infinite on hair amount plus this is paramount pluses one of their among their first original features that they're going to be divvying out And it's gonna come in batches so get ready for that and also i like to reiterate this because the other shrimp the other one. We're gonna talk about different model. A lot of these studios now are going to either simultaneously. Have them like hbo. And warner brothers or hbo. Max skewed of either simultaneously streamed the movie on the platform as well as in theaters. Most of all the other studios even if it's in theaters if they don't release it originally just on the platform not theaters. You can wait about what's forty five days besser and you'll be able to see all the things that were that could already be. I mean if it's got a lot you know if the dollar movie to two dollars the but like you could literally start summers. Oh i don't. I don't feel safe in up or you know i just. I don't really want to watch something mask on. And all that stuff can wait till the end of the suburbs of these things are going to be on the poor. I'm looking at a quiet place to go on a wednesday forty. Five days of that is the way it is so that's not just with paramount. It's with many many of the other studios So just keep that in mind as we're sharing the next to a couple months. Just double check your. We will always tell you when it's available because vardi moved on a double check your car or whatever just double check all of these spaces to see if that movie is going to be available for five days later and if you don't feel safe enough don't don't want to what you say stay home enjoy but if like like you're saying though but if if the spirit moves you that's when you go if you go oh i got to see that theatre. You know. you should know if you're gonna unless you're with some people and your time looking at them at hold. stay home. Well i will say this a lot of places and this is good to to know. A lot of places are allowing you to run out the theater. I've talked to many many people and it's not that much. It's you know it could be anywhere from one hundred two hundred dollars and if you think about the tickets that you would pay for you and it's endless is not one hundred per person by the way it's just like one hundred two hundred dollars to rent out an entire theater you can invite as many people as you want as you feel safe with and you can enjoy that movie and e cop porn you know maskless because it's just you and those few people so do keep that in mind if you're talking about the spirit move you if you're not comfortable watching it among people that you're not hurt that you're not living with or that you just you know. Maybe they don't have vaccination where they do or whatever you want people out. If you've got a vaccination i wanna see you. What okay nerve. Let's go back to impotent. Which is on paramount. Plus this actually came out on june tenth. So it's been some time and the critic has been able to sit with it a little bit. This comes to us from a very familiar director. Antoine fuqua who Guided us in this up but it was written by ian shore and soyuz by todd steed. And it's based on a book called the rian cartoonist. Plus the reincarnation this it's not wow we're not the cordell no carnation instant bread. Oh oh you're gonna love it in instead. Okay d. e. in your sound. I know i know mark yes. Mark wahlberg chula till g. Four sophie cooks in dylan. O'brien on onto you. Get rupert for people are shown up in this. And i'm just popping up least rupert friend. I was like oh and then he was gone. Very goes gotta catch a fast. This is what we're calling what an action sci-fi thriller it's mark wahlberg. It's going to be action so the question is do we move ourselves over to paramount plus to watch this inequality don't have paramount. Plus is this. Why should we get paramount. Plus at this point with this movie there it paramount. plus you get off. Cbs shows number one. They come on the platform right after they air a west coast time. So just keep that in mind. That's number one. You get their tv originals. The good fight now. Evil excuse me star goverry and so on and now. They've throwing movies on their plus. You get their movie catalogs from paramount the godfather they bought out miramax and all that stuff. So oh my gosh. I mean i i like was okay thank you. Maybe i should buy some stop in parallel now. No covet. So regardless of infinite. I think that if you are someone who just wants things to watch and you have the money to give to paramount. Plus i would suggest it and then you can do without commercials. You know how. I love that you love a good commercial free. Forget those dvr's. I'm tired of denia fast forward. It look like so in this movie. Infinite the title talks about people who are reincarnated in perpetuity deer. When they're reincarnating their past lives okay. Wow that's a lot. Joe scott said listen to my past lives word. So there are two factions of these infinite people. One faction wants it to end now. How can they get it to end. Do they have to just get rid of all of humanity and other fashion goes. No we can use this. You know we can better the world ourselves and all of that. There's a clash as a result. Now mark wahlberg of course plays one of the infinite but he has a problem. Remember some of them remember in utero now. Imagine that that might make you angry. You like if you like a thousand years old and you are in a lube. Okay but not mark. Wahlberg is character evan. So this something about evan where they gotta get him to remember of course and how. They're going to do this you know. There are people relying on him because in his previous life he hid something very important that both factions want now the head of the other faction the one that was to kill. Everyone is played two. Oh he's playing a bad Is bathurst twenty twenty now but he will kill the infants. How can you kill an infant though as possible. What could you do that. You'll see what he does and he wants this thing at avenue as it does he where it is does he know who hit it. I'm not going to you but don't mess around with okay noted so of course it's gonna come down to these two guys. You can see the poster if you wanna look it up. Evan and bass looking at each other. Who's going to win right. Are we going to have a thanos moment. Or we're going to do the reverse snap now. Of course you have kinds of personalities of infants. They have different. You know Skills and things like that. But if you've been living for this long of course you could develop all kinds of skills. Of course you can get a lot of money. You know what you know what to do. So that's the kind of fun of it. If you're a sci fi head okay. But this is what i have to say. I didn't believe this move the story now. The story is purposely far fetched of course fine but it's not supported enough to be interesting and mark wahlberg. Who appreciate but. I don't always appreciate the acting in. This movie does not work at all. I invite him as a guy who's tormented mentally and all of that other kinds of stuff you know. I didn't buy any of it. Some of the dialogue here is a challenge. And my question really is this. What is to it'll do. I've never said that before. What is too little doing. I was like. You're doing too much juvenile. He should have done the opposite. Do not or make it funny. That's how you play a biller. Other people your fellow actors play the villain. You don't you play against it. Nope not here. So i couldn't take this seriously. But i finished it because i like the genre so watch it this. This specific my recommendation. Watch this if you want to see an okay. What chelsea's okay. It's more since then matrix or imagine if limitless had a lot more action and the execution was half as good. Then you do that. It's just entertaining enough to watch on what's becoming one of my favorite platforms paramount plus. So they put in the right place there you have that let's move onto another streamer that i think more people probably have at this point. Everybody right i mean it. It's they have ice cream named after it. Okay do they. Didn't jerry's networks chill. Yeah oh absolutely. This get flicked is housing a newly housing. I like the ice road. We we all have to laugh at liam. Neeson i mean it really. Is it kind of reminds me of of denzel a little bit where it's just like it's liam in different situation. You just you know. He's gonna do accents he's not gonna do place. Just take they try to throw it at any trying to say irish the movie. It was hilarious to you. Are it you go. It from the dakotas demand. A tow behind that happened. Let's see that movie. I well this came out on the twenty fifth of june. So not that long ago. It's directed by jonathan hin and he also wrote it. So there you go with that of course as we said liam neeson's in but fishburne on again. Lovely laurence fishburne benjamin walker. I mean app amber myth thunder and som- sir all showing up in this Adventure drama thriller. So you know if it's a different question for this it's not. Who am i going to get because it is you have it. The question is are you gonna watch it. Can you even find it on the platform ridiculous that flips. Netflix's before i if you release something new put in new releases immediately like what. I don't feel like searching the title right chill. That looks a tight tight. Like what is this. Maybe you wanna come over and netflix with me. We search through. What's your favorite keyboard. Wait a minute and provide carpal tunnel ergonomics lord. So yes your chance. Diplomatic listen like what diplomatic community. Look it up. Touched diplomatic odd nothing to do with with but it does have with. This is a mine explosion. cabal collapse minors attract. There's a limited window to save the magin in a lot of oxygen. The only possibility to come up with is to truck in supply circumvent the dangerous methane at the site. That's what caused it now. The trucks have to come via the title. The teacher the ice road ice road. That's the only way to get there in time. They can't fly it in. They got to derive. It can't drive over land. it's gotta be the ice road. Elle's danger all around because i mean look. The ice might not support these trucks. That three of them and the miners again. Time is running out. Gotta hurry up. They got like under thirty hours. So inter liam neeson playing mike mccann and his brother gertie played by marcus. Thomas now gertie is that with special needs okay. So that's applauded this and it's because of his service to the country so what happens is mike and gertie. Of course they've grown. I mean leeson younger running. he's burland. Mike has been taken care of gertie. They've been going from job to job because of this. Because you said one thing about gertie and mike will have. But i will find. You wouldn't tell you. Yes like i will kill nag up at so watch out for that and but the point is doing this year after year is taking its toll okay. So they get involved in this. And they're going from north dakota manitoba okay to prove themselves to someone who is gathering a rag tag group of truckers. Because at the moment the trucking season is over. It's like five weeks old. they are gone like. And who's the guy who's going to corral this team. It's played by laurence fishburne. Of course he is. Jim goldenrod guests. So gm is like what are you want from me. All the truckers have gone. Let me see. I can get together and he encounters mike and gertie. He doesn't know them. You know they like put out an ad may come in. And everybody's being vetted can they do this. This is all happening. Why people are being asked they got. Yeah let's go it try. And that's why it lawrence But you know you've got trucker because if you don't then the trucks won't make it it's a waste of time so you know there's attention at the time and finding people can do it now. How can you prove yourself to jim. Well birdie has some ideas. I'll tell you that. I will tell you what it looks like. You'll see it in the new now included with them because of course they get. The job is jim. Himself laurence fishburne. It'd be driving to drop. Now of poorest mike and gertie writing in the same truck mike's driver gertie as the guy who fixes everything that's what he does and there is also a certain cree woman who can drive like nobody's business but she's in a certain place that she can't voluntarily league so gymnastic dinner she also has a personal stake in this mission as she doesn't appreciate white people occupying kurland. Now what does she mean by her. Land she'll tell you when you watch the movie now driving a writing. I should say along with her. In the same trump is a well-meaning white man who's assigned to ride with her as a representative of the insurance company. Oh lord that's just sounds like oil and water it now. Still the question is why would mike and gertie agree to go on. What might be a suicide mission. Or here's the thing. The crew members get to split two hundred k. Two hundred thousand dollars only survivors. Get me money so if you die. It's not like they give you share your family know whoever makes it divide the two hundred thousand so if one person you get all two hundred thousand dollars Well that is also like you know. Do you want everybody to survive. That's exactly the question because not everything or everyone is as seems so you know. There's all kinds asked obstacles. You got the element got the mind got trucks the row people so the question is is anybody make it know what makes it in time and what really caused that mine. Explosion suspect that. Hang and let me say this while it's hanging imagine it with me like this everybody liam niessen is an a decent peterberg movie with minors. An ice and trucks and the people who drive them and all of the expected thrills. That's now here's the problem writing Not always great and the execution because as the rest set everybody. This was written and directed by jonathan hens. So whenever you have somebody doing all the work it can really work or sometimes you go. If you just had another voice so the problem is it was an almost cavalier approach to building each pivotal moment. It didn't have enough. Wait for me to actually care and invest so when things happen and they happen. i'm watching. It snows like okay and some of the frankly. It was flat out ridiculous especially when it comes to one character. I'm not gonna tell you who it was. Just it was like come on. Is he scarface. I am now regardless it has the cast and has it does us. You're right it's just like the previous. We talked much just entertaining enough for many people. Watch on netflix. When they need something to pass the time so there you go well there. You have those two. I looks are currently available. You don't have to wait. Oh but you have to have a subscription plus internet flights. Thanks for listening for additional resources visit. Why watch dot com good idea. And we'd love to hear from you so go ahead and we comments feedback and you can read it. I see a next week.

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"A girl off about Adria. I'm on what was that you had you collectively say. Well yes you did indeed Hera Tape Patriots. PODCAST cast because I've literally recorded this week's Patriot podcast with Rebecca and we had a chat about it and I said you know what before we put out this weekend's full episode assode which is a lovely interview with one of our listeners. All the way from New Jersey. Yes I thought it'd be nice. I'm going to show what the other guys who aren't Patriots. A missing each and every week so I thought as a little treat is a little bonus. Before this weekend's episode comes out I would also applaud an old Patriot episode for you guys to listen to and why not. Don't forget if you want to be a patriot. Listen to one of these extra each week. Go to Patriotdepot DOT COM forward slash. We we need to talk about ghosts. It's quite simple. Patriot dot com forward slash. We need to talk about ghosts and five dollars a month. Get you an extra four shows all the posts all of that jazz anyway. I'll speak to you again this weekend with all wonderful interview with Lori although from New Jersey New Jersey and in the meantime time is like a bonus former patron episode. I love you all tatty by by gay. It's time for Patriots special episode and New Delivery Becker who needs to speak up slightly. But that's okay so we last last week on the Patriot on episode. If you recall we- descriptive nation than me and the fact that I have a pendulum that you bought me much against your judgments and as you would have seen if you've seen the pay trump and we've just put up as we promised last week we said we'd give it a go and we just give it a lovely highly successful pull out the pendulum I studied a video video. There Watch might not have been accurate though either on how to use it not the fact that suggests a pro. I kind of get lost so that you understand what you're looking for and then we are little session of asking a stupid question because I don't know the answer but it did say it was going to do something in the flat. Didn't it say that but then it was unable to locate locate analogy receipts under some coasters which to be fair. It's been Monday and test to us. The Dad isn't it so maybe that's why maybe it was. I tried to get noticed on the video. It will be asking what we're asking not know the gems on alive audie and the spirit that's controlling the Gen calls on. Ah The but if a car you'd know about it you have no logic. It's not that's exactly. Let's see in the video who who you're asking the gym itself and you said Yes that's why when you're like. Oh it's different than Isis will. What is the hostess and the like? That's why I made that joke about to be very if only spirit family and it wasn't very good joke. I'm sorry but I'm trying to get to the bar and you change in your now with someone who is now. It's the under the debt answering like make your mind up yours. Spent the debt that of course. It's always the Dad Becker. You'll find understanding. He didn't say it was the right. Okay we'll go around the circles which like the pendulum nonsensical ready ready for the answer. I know that's a massive forty mile. I can take it whenever you Bob. They were talking and we should. We'll save this for the podcast because I was talking to a woman work. It was the strangest. I believe that we're very close friends. And she's I'm all right with her but we're not as she makes it with like what baddies anyway long story short. She's a believer brin lots of things as well isn't he so it's probably why she thinks she's concern probably is wasted into a kindred spirits both she was talking about the guy. She's a ebbets friend. Basically is a medium by all accounts and he often reads FA charge like each Rajastan antiquated. Go not not cheap especially at Matrix But she's besotted with that East deathly tell the truth anyway. I was telling you a story that she was telling me. Yesterday was a sticking point a we both found rather funny and it was because she told me that last last week had medium has got in touch with hair and said I've just had a message come through from the other side. You need to read dot is emphasized. Fun tastic business model anytime. You need coasters. You ring them and say you need me now. I know this you need Baugh. Oh She's about that time a month. Yeah exactly bought. She then said she then she said very quickly we didn't take any payment for it but Golic's or you definitely at least offer them something but then it got me thinking of that business model. Let's say let's say let's live in the Land Web Eh. That's real and he definitely has a gift and he can talk to the data the composite messages on an book. He wants to make a living from it. So charges right now arguably you could say you can't put a price on contact cadet which is fair enough because if it was genuine. I think he's right to judge three thousand pounds pop bought. Let's each found on. That's what he wants to charge fair enough whatever he wants to do. But then let's say is it an ethical if he does genuinely receive a message from someone who says like. Let's call a brand tele. Brenda speaks to should he. Then bring up and say if it's all jet. I Brenda listen. You're Bob was on the phone Obama phone your barbers in me. Had she's got a message for you but you know unfair to quit a pop. Is that the jets. Would that be. Not legit is that morally reprehensible or is that okay. I said I think need software confusing the names but I think they talk word with the ghost is like you going through this woman. I used customer money. Aren't you gonNa see you self conscious. Maybe he's the telephone line. This is in some like. It's let's say if PSYCHIC PSYCHIC ISM if psychic was real and we had a psychic connects Dole and I was in the Hebrides wants to get in touch with you but enough oh I could go jeff me mind so long. Winded switched off a little but then again that said if I was in desperate need to concentrate in Jaffna agents going to need twenty. Good if you're afraid or you'll never find out. Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah I mean if it's not important just as it especially as friends you would want to get the message to anyway. Yeah No. That's a very good point. That is a very appoint like let's say you went in. Your phone glanced energy. Finally New like our Policy Jessica Florida's I wouldn't charge and if you know yes at least Elia tempted as well because I've also got the crystal ball on the Tarot cult of tempted to get you to fill me for fifty minutes. Look at reasonable will be no from for anyone to unless. There's a way that I could make a foam like by saying Bossie came out. I don't have a cake. Thankfully that youth awesome addition well not magician it and a cooled do Tarot one week. Yeah not now not now not now to be fair This is GonNa be a show to podcast center because the video aspect is half of this podcast the Patriots so this is the audio what just call it. Accompany endure the accompanying audio for videos from. It's not because we're talking about the difference we were talking about the Venetian contact the data and message from them. So it's all under the umbrella. Rela eight went to the story. That was a story. Oh Oh yeah scope. What was the message Wjr? Oh it wasn't a message. That was what I was telling you. Yes somebody had gotten such with him through with the veil and said Tell Barbara she needs to come through the read and Bullard. The better thing was it wasn't for read and it was to be regressed into a life yes. So that's one issue came down for me because it was light Luck well not bro for so is Rhonda it. Listen you need to you. Need to open with me. And then when they got there it's a progression so like who sent this message. You Yeah is interested in life aggression older than hey you know what what was the message. There's nothing there's no one saying anything. The particular it was just. If she's still in shape. Melissa thing would like past life regression. I've got a bit of a belief that it could be real but on the basis. Stop Genetic Take Memories Real thing so I think you could be regressed to your great great grandmother's life and no things about because genetic memories are real things which the improvement rats so. I think you can do that. Bought as happened cakes when somebody says like you know who I'm John F. Kennedy. I sat in the car. Oh what's happened to me add. It's like there's no the link there so I don't believe in that also I certainly don't believe in any urgency of quickly to conferees now saying credit. I'm GonNa be so so you know. She was told she was told that. I don't WanNa take the PISS OUTTA bought it. Is that funny but she she was told me Jamaa age member of soldier that about the stream that I've got a conference in case people now right so I'll change get a bit okay. How's she we still you know I can't rip she is I can't remember telling me so? Let's say she said I told you about the stream that I'm I keep a grow tomato. I'm GonNa go to the Green. Oaks thrilled that because of gotta water and the Dye in all right Iran. Yeah that's not the dream I'm trying to in case you never go listen to this. You never know. And so she. This really is not heavily code guts. It's really no changes slight very slight things so then and I will say this part. She says she goes any tens out. I was in the Vietnam War and I'm upset keeping a straight fake excited relatives the recent so there's no she might be alive so there's a high of fresh even possibly that's a very good point. I Astros I'm going to figure that out. So so so she was fourteen point that she's as as in the Vietnam War. The House Vietnamese. All right okay which also which shoots down the genetic M- everything for me as Vietnamese helping exactly. I know I had a family of four kids and be starved to death. Other than all right buddy AL is. Is this what you seen any regressive memory. Things shouldn't yeah and then this is the bit that I thought. Nah Too. Because you I just remember being a hot semi looking out and with the kids shred an and the sky was full of and this is the mission. What are those things called or them? Things called we will call them. Chops helicopters helicopters absorb absorb. Yes remember modern name for things like I didn't want to say you Ran Cohen Chops. Because y you speak in English on last S. literally he was speaking of Vietnamese. But you translate it into English and Vietnamese slanted helicopters which equates to choppers none of this makes sense. Lets Becca just very very much pointed out. There's a high chance you alive during the Vietnamese. Will I mean then again herring. I finally might starve to death and she was instantly born the might have been not that much measuring quickly. We'll be quick very quick. It will be very getting all the way from Van ons ahead. It's not it's not short. Well though I mean we could. The whole British roots of is recognized when you die you born no no. It's called reincarnation but there's a specific thing of like as you close your eyes and you you go down that tunnel of light when you come out the tunnel of light coming out of your mother's legs so other than expected molly but it is a bit of way to travel on. Also I bet your rates on Israel actually this Vietnamese woman. God bless her soul does not Lena that she was just she was Barbara was making out the hair and the kids were literally acting like the dragon when they seen this chopper. Notar the helicopter. Is You know what I mean. It was the seventies helicopters have been long in existence. It's like she was looking bewilderment. scone there's Miller in the sky in metal bird but but anyway so yeah that was. Yeah so what What we think rarely all the morals of taking taking charge this? This is an interesting point because I do remember I watch upon member Panorama the BBC bump program on psychics and it was one of the best programs on the world. Well if the spooky that I've ever seen because what the as the interview TV psychics. But they actually got woman. It was very serious. Recent very real the woman who saw not being stopped to death in a gang fight street fights and she was beside south and she literally went to every psychic onto the song in the hope of getting a message from from two so they were trying to points out the manipulation that can go on like literally Taksin grief. Yeah because she the office. She's at the point where she pay anything to office. Yeah exactly and so he got the TV psychics because you know a footballer on the TV's good football a buxom TV's a boxer so arguably a psychic. WHO's made it to TV psychic? He's got some renowned or she's got some reminds you this next time you see some clowns evening Hey Katherine TV. They must be taught me a book anyway. The Gulf this I got Colin Fry. He's not but the got Colin fry this TV psychic. He's one of these Hunnam love like He. Does it still supposed to call audience. Which is in Cleveland? The clap Clear audience means you do inference. An audience basically on it Sam. UN messages through the group. But it's bollocks is basically guessing so it's like you stand up if you've got someone who's died in the last twelve months fifty people stand up. It's a male with me tencent Ansett said he's had trouble with his heart tencent down by the time you've got to the warm. Everyone's convinced that you'd be great. Yeah fairmount you had mentioned rights. You've avenue just three dots. So she's actually a real life besides so pass and it's in a private room and he goes. Can you ask do the bicycle my love just like right anyway. Gets everything wrong and she comes out. She's like umbrella disappointed. I had high hoax. And then she sees another guy another psychic stockwell we've had a program on UK. Living and again is he gets a little bit better. He's like I'm I'm going to boys with me. And she's like right okay but then he gets everything else wrong. And she's like right on then she's even more disappointed because she thought we got some and then on the documentary the fellow stadium color frying and the dealer Fella said they charge like up to two thousand pounds for private because the TV psychics Excel. People pay only said that. I'm just this like this. Was My ninety percents of the documentaries. Don't and right to the Brennan Right. At the end of the term we got the spiritual church and explained. What exactly where we were to what we were being And they person with a barber in Scotland we've worked for the spiritualist church doesn't take a single bit a bit of money off anyone and Jabbar and he says when we arranged for Seniors Barber shop in Scotland and she went and now she goes show about. Yes you gotta Pam And he was he was like Oh Alot Electric Dad Norma follow like. She was like and they're under director. Sound like you don't you don't get paid into. I don't know why would it's immoral for me to pass messages anyway. He's literally like in the first five minutes he's like it. She didn't say where and he's like a young boy your step behind. He's Got Light Brown. He's old and his chest wound to his chest so the poll nerves chest and she's like an e absolutely she comes out and cheese chocolate gentlemen. She's got she spoke to me. Feel which is when this sort of stuff works for me. Yeah I'm like what was the message. What was she after? What was GONNA give that? He was all right. But he wasn't tormented in the afterlife last pathologist in positions to it you know it was better than not do that. For Validation Dunkin's Assay Lake boy. I think that's when it works. I don't care to appoint if if it exists or doesn't I think as long as the person who's delivering that read and believe in what they're saying and if the person getting the read and get some comfort from it then there's no home I I do agree with not only other sides of a coin. I think it's absolutely disgusting. Even if they do it completely on its fulfils on. She comes away we load to come. I think charging degree murder two thousand pounds to give comfort. I'm fit even if it worked is like just shocking. I don't know you kids hold on. Don't take money from a very interesting that they were the ones who charge and didn't get anything right lights and this guy didn't charge which kind of automatically for me totally eaten at an authenticity to it adds it loses the the visceral fights into whether this relondo gentleman. It's kind of like. Yeah 'cause you do think Laura well if he's not getting paid for. It wasn't a friend like why would you lie as they've got obviously a huge Your your your key Pessinson say this about because you you you do have quite a large bit of altruism about like you know without blow your trumpets to patriots. You know you you donate your age to charities and stuff on all kinds of things so y'all kind of a good candidate for this so let's let's say you let's see you tomorrow you will call up and you knew you didn't take you know Matt and you you knew you could. You could speak to the debt and one of the members of Dad said like your next door neighbor. John is only only to knock and tell them this right. Let's say unless you were comfortable with adopt but delivering the right you. Would you find it morally reprehensible to charge in occas- early like do colleague friend ringing them insane. I've got this message that you quit if you want to hear it. That's like shocking. Never Neven often his door and say of this message. It's four hundred if you want to hear you know like often our with me. This won't show whatever like that's pre pre terrible. I think yeah as I can see how obviously this is on the basis that as you said on March and believe in it I can see how you would think are I I do. I need to make a living you. You know I'm GonNa. I'm GONNA do this full-time instead of where can you charge. I'm people continue pay. She could understand outside. Extents away these days. Yeah Yeah who stunned making so many respects but I think almost like cold coal and people it's like not accessible and there's a limit on it should be you know. I think that one. Frankly I think you need to be looking at. I think year pay structure needs to be very very flexible. Because it's not rice. Say you do walk. You prices up to ridiculous extremes of two thousand dollars off our. It's not the right that the only people you bring in comfortable tip rich people none poor people who got that kind of money we spend not getting the message to them. I think that's the state you can. There's an element of taking it from. Who could afford it and take it a smaller amount from those cons on and then certainly like if you've got like grieving parents or something like God's sakes just give them the message like our horrendous to consider doing otherwise where we can pay you know we should do seriously? We should both go on night. Not District a busy week after to the specialist interest. Trach the spiritual chest by the royal. What's your name? What's new started chased charge slightly auction note because it special shits believing golden ethical description of accepting a couple of times ages ago but spirituous Chet is basically like a Catholic Church wjr or Krisztian Chech- by the end of their mass? The other guest speaker on clear audience. What's it's it's like? Christians also believe in ghosts. So Dave is the two subs week so you go. There's there's a mass parts which is not really a Massa search for about twenty minutes and then there's like an Aba worth of this past doing that exact is John so things like a free medium settled you panic three credentials frontier. Yep Yep I mean till though because I think it would be it certainly be interested in for my side to go because obviously I am not as open to that in the way. I don't think we're GONNA go to get anything advantage of someone turnaround us. Said something about me you know known else. Yeah exactly he's economy. But then but then the thing. It's like pop pop like everyone has gotta Grandad used is just like when the bomb statements thing isn't it which is yeah and can you say about yourself can be normally reflected to the passengers be considered like. You're in a job. You don't really like you find it stressful times. You know you've always thought that you could be creative in and outlets and make money that way you know lots of stuff. Yeah statements that apply Tobacco Brown Jonathan. They're going to give everyone a private region total until open the envelopes and when they you did the exact same reason although the rate it at like ninety five percents of the time so yeah. We should do that next week. I'll look when it's on Boko. The south of the road maybe can go to parties afterwards if you look at that. I'm in those as much but as a prophet dive bar on London Road which is in love with it. So far is in how you think it was like the coolest rocker. It's like naughty by. It's like just a proper. Proper is the race in on the long thin sticky floor dying. That's like the decline so you'll rental can. That's what's the place checks Goshi investigation Exactly a cockroach on the factory. Remember that time the holiday because he stayed open the found to be like sloughing and yeah that was only one time clean clapiers defined clean. No yeah it's a sorts of which happened with your ex boyfriend actually which we're actually may too but the ball that you can just go in and say we're half an apology here. Put on banners up. No one stops you. You just have party. I give him with us. Lots of alcoholic. Israel's Nelson I introduced into the Bahrainis proper with it goes through zone defines younger would say hey come in you'll be there for like eleven. The Moon Moon Ale go and his own. He's a functional alcoholic. No nothing nothing bad about that fair blades. From alcohol news walks us. Let me stream. We won't say is full name. Let's let's Change Jeff Steed. There's literally phrase your friends in to do a Jeff St that means when you've got to shrink the CIA every day AB somewhat diluted. Only only we can anyway. So this is the end of the Patriot on podcast. 'cause you vote twenty three minutes. He at twenty four minutes now and you got the TVOS next week. We'll do another one on the week afterwards while we should have been to the spiritual judged by them so we'll give you a report on the so that's full isn't it. Let's say thank. You can wonderful backup to say say. Thank you to the patient thinking you because I will make you for leasing. This country's the Patriots thanks paycheck Laughlin. Keep certainly thank you patrons Say companies the Best Madison Truth Channel Strictest as well now listen to me trying to fool you into things like that so we don't see nearly might just lost out Okay French speech you next week. Bye Happy Babai

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Ep85: Clay Boykin Interview   The New Compassionate Male

In Search of the New Compassionate Male

27:44 min | 8 months ago

Ep85: Clay Boykin Interview The New Compassionate Male

"Hi this is clay boykin and i am in search of the new compassionate male. I believe in new compassionate mail is emerging as new archetype in dime interviewing men and women from all around the world on the overarching topic of raising impassioned consciousness. Among men you may recall that in february an episode seventy eight. I interviewed roger steed. The other day roger turned the tables and invited me onto his podcast. Third act here's that conversation. This is the third act podcast shining a spotlight on individuals charities and small business owners suffering from illness economic shutdown or lack of support and funding meaningful conversations that generate compassion and financial support from listeners. Compelled to join us on this journey to improve the lives of others and now your host roger steve. Welcome everyone thank you for joining us on the third act podcast with my special guest clay lincoln. Clay was kind to invite me to do a podcast with him three weeks ago. And this is my effort to provide his wisdom and experience to the third act community. I i should mention that. Clay and many other texans are still experiencing the aftermath of the huge storm system as shutdown most affects us for over a week. I hope he came out of the storm decent shape but i hope the warm temperatures are starting to provide some hope that things are getting a little bit better they are and we have thought out a matter of fact. It was eighty three degrees here. That have some. We're out there in in our shorts and flip flops. Also clay is finding his purpose through a terrific podcast. Series launched in early twenty twenty in response to the covid nineteen crisis. I had the privilege to participate in the podcast series which he has an intriguing topic and tagline in search of the compassionate. Now i will let flakes lane that in more detail in a moment but first i would like to share. The clay is a very busy guy and has many balls in the air. All centered around the idea of bringing the best out of men through compassionate leadership. Play his life skills. Coach and a business leader is also an author of circles of men a counter intuitive approach to creating men's groups and has dedicated over twenty years to making the world a better place. I cultivating compassion consciousness. Among men he founded the circles of men project and two twelve which has grown to be a worldwide network. I wanna learn a little bit more about his new or is counterintuitive approach to bring men together. And we'll touch on that in a minute but an finally as a base of support. His current purpose in life has come from being a marine corps officer and also spending thirty eight years in the corporate world. Play what incredible resume and pedigree and thank you so much for coming on the podcast and sharing your story with the community very much. It's wonderful to be here. Roger and i appreciate the invitation. I obviously you gave me the eighty three degrees. I don't have to go through. The oster weather again. Only makes me wanna play golf. Which is impossible in michigan right now. But i i like to Set the stage for our listeners. If you don't mind to go back to the beginning of why. I'm calling your new life purpose. So listeners can get a flavor of what is fired you toward this new direction and mission help in finding themselves. Can you share your story from that perspective. Sure it starts in two thousand and seven. I'd been jetting around the world and the typical corporate guy climbing the ladder and the whole time being burned out and burning my candle both ends and so forth and having this emptiness inside that i kept trying to fill this inside me by doing things outside. It got up with me. And i was sitting in jamaica on vacation and long story short. I was on the verge of a heart attack. And i sat there for three days. Not going go to the hospital in jamaica and found an incredible piece realizing that this is my last day. I am not gonna leave here and something. It was a mystical experience. And that's a whole story for another time. But i got home and sure enough. I i had a heart attack in the hospital and left the hospital with a quintuple bypass in this was in the fall of seven and or mid seven by the fall of those seven the market was crashing and i was getting back and forth new york city and i got laid off but my last trip up there. I stood up on the top of the empire state building. I looked down at my office. And i thought i made it to the top metaphorically and at the top of the empire state building. And it's almost killed me. Who am i. Why am i here. Where am i going. And that's where it started in my dark outta the soul the next two years and then coming back from that. That was the foundation of why i began to work with. Men expressed to me in the podcast. I did with you previously. Used your term. You scratch if you times on placement. I love that phrase is be so well as well but we all know that men and women come out of challenges sometimes in a positive way. I think we both talked in the previous podcast about the somewhat positive effects. Ethical prices pandemic has caused or surly me an pas to and probably matvey your branson clients and coaching people's. If you will. Can you talk about a little bit about what's use her in seen from people that have are asking that same question. What is my purpose in life. How do i go on. And how do i find that sort of light to take me in a positive purposeful direction. Sixty four thousand dollar question. You know i was supposed to go back to africa Cova hit Shutdown and that's what prompted the the podcast in search of the new compassionate male. And i am searching in what i'm learning in talking with. Everybody talk with is that. There's an innate spark of compassion that is within every person that they may not know it our call it by that but this year while everyone has had to reflect differently on their lives. This questions coming up. What is this inside me. And i really do believe that. All the downward pressure that has been in the world that pushing against that. This is a burn inside pushing against that. That's a spark of compassion. This the golden rule. Golden rule is going to win out here. And that's what's coming up. The new compassionate mail is emerging as a new archetype and he explained a little bit before and i hope he can go into more detail now about this new compassionate mel that is bieber. Thank for you. So can you go into a little bit about. But you've seen and heard and many even the transitions that men and women through your percents with them are making through this period. and how. maybe they're finding their purpose life through that journey so speak well. It's interesting i. I'm in search of so i don't have the answer. I'm engaging everybody in the conversation. What is this compassionate. Me and i don't say compassionate man. I say compassionate mail because we're all involved men and women we've all got the divine male energy on us like we've got the divine feminine energy and again this is. The opportunity of the whole world is going through massive change if you follow astrology. It's even pointing to that and I call it. We're in the limited space that we're just breaking through and all of this is so many people don't know what worst put around but they can feel it and as we've been able to be sequestered somewhat more have been able to go within and begin at least to scratched the surface of what is this. Who am i. Why am i here. Where am i going and in. This seems to be a lot of reflection on that in there. I could do podcast the day. There are so many brilliant beautiful people out there that have got that compassion and they are exercising it in the world. Like what you're doing with your pro. I totally agree. And i know this is not a fair question but can you just think back over the past year. I know you. And dennis up ads the marcus discussions and op cast of your own. Reflect on a few those that stick in your mind that were really set you back and said oh my gosh. This is such a transition. This person's going through the journey is so beautiful that it just made such an impression for you to come to mind. One is dr clambering garra in kenya. She is a fabulous person beautiful person and is so. Well grounded. i had the opportunity to work with her. In august of twenty nineteen in kenya with her men and had her on the other is more recent one with a room in india. Tremendous wonderful person speaking on all aspects of leadership. I these you this morning through an email. But i did listen to that the podcast you did with them you in denison. It was phenomenal. It was really enlightening than it Spoke to me in different ways. But and you remember or just put in a summary sort of capsule what you took away from that discussion. I know you're podcasts. A little bit longer so you had time to go into a lot of different things but what. What was the impression that you came away with and what stage with you today from that sketch. The essence of his work is on leadership all aspects of leadership and its corporate leadership individual agents ship organizations and he uses the term wholesome leadership. I grew up in. You said my marine corps days my corporate days where i grew up with the servant leadership model compassionate leadership servant leadership wholesome leadership. It's all speaking the same slightly different language but it's the essence of creating inspired vision modeling the way enabling others to act these sorts of things that are leadership that that bring people together. He used different words but he was saying the same thing. And i think more and more. That's the evolution and successful business employees and the younger people coming up are demanding it but it is so beautifully in uses such great metaphors to tell his stories. I don't know if you remember the. But because i listen to it today uses the eagle in the condor balanced coming together which i thought was tremendous and then he used the joker in the deck of cards which i thought was another good one but yeah he was a beautiful man. Yes yes yes and not is says it so eloquently any says in such a I don't know the english language from an indian gentleman comes lose as almost like a priest or pastor something to communicate Gray wholesome very honestly and let me say this that. I met him through the charter for compassion. Current armstrong's organization. And i work with the charter for compassion. I'm developing their men and boys initiative and is on their board of advisors. And so my work that i connect the dots and he was introduced. And and that's where that came from and he works with several other fantastic organizations like the charter. I think miami weakened is going to be tied up at least try to pick off his ted talk. So i'm gonna look for that on youtube so that's probably buying well-spent i thought we might also. That's a little bit on your services what you provide to your clients and the people that you talked to. Can you talk a little about this but you call this counter. Intuitive approach that you use when you talk with people visit with people and try to provide your guidance and mentorship for them. What's your methodology so in short. I put things down on paper with the person that i'm working with. I want to the typical things. Who are you. What are you doing where things happening. But i do. I call heart. Mapping and people may see like mine mapping. But it's on steroids. There's there's more happening and as we're going through and working side by side in going to discovery of where he where that person is intended to go. This picture begins to evolve and we build it together. And then that culminates in a model that says oh all of this. That was spaghetti my brain a now see an order to it and i can see a frame of reference in now i have choice. I can see myself in this lower quadrant in. That's not very good now. I know i can go up or go out or go sideways right right but at least i have a mental picture so to help build that picture there. That's just to kind of a start point but it gives you a sense of this is a hands on and we're not talking up in the air and forgetting things no. We're building a picture together. And that's that speaks to a good portion of it. How long do these sessions last are. You would help people who are. I'm going this out a six months a year as a one time and and they come back checkup a year house at work. Typically my goal is to help them learn how to do what we're doing together so i'm not interested in having somebody for a year to i talk and four six eight sessions in some go on to work on other things to continue to grow but to get the initial. I liked to have about four hours for the person and that's in four different sections so we can back off and reflect. I can do my homework. They can do their homework. We come back together in tenue to shape the picture together on paper. And if they i'm gonna make this up sorta. But i can see. I can visualize the picture of someone has maybe a job issue or infusion. Maybe as a personal relationship issue may be stemming from the job and then he has this unfulfilled purpose in life. He can't find the house. Your methodology right goes down in comeback into sync for purpose. It's very fascinating unique. But it's the idea of getting all those down so you can. Visually see them. And then begin to draw the relationships between the different issues and the commonality between them and the opportunities that come up and then things that haven't even been said start to come into the picture to create that frame of reference and it's applicable to whether it's job with combination everything that you were talking about it. I've used it with companies in helping reset their strategy. So it's it's not just individuals but it's also organizations. Wow our whole. I know you talked to women as well particularly your podcast series. I wanted to touch base a little bit on the the balance because a lot of our listeners are gonna be women thank goodness. Just talk about how you meld them into the thinking of the compassionate on how they fit into your eighteen as far as the methodology. Your coach at a great question elements share this from day. One when i lost my website. Men's fellowship dot net the google analytics has proven out within one or two percentage points that literally half the people that come onto that web. A come onto that website or women. Sure they're looking for a resource for their man out. Sure and i tell you there's another thing i had. I've had it more than once a woman come to me and say klay the reason i visit. Your website is because i'm a man in a woman's body. Where do i go so what i'm putting out. There is good for everyone. But it's under the overarching of compassionate men in compassion but the topics are broad reaching. Women have got to have a voice in this because they can see from another angle and it's also helping them see that we are all wounded by the patriarchy. And what i said. Hey i'm the privileged white corporate privilege white male. I've got everything going for me. And that's what they believe. I big they okay generalizing. Let me share my wound and they. Oh you're wounded two. We realized that wounded ness is our common ground. Not to compare the wounds who's worse. No but the fact that we are both wounded in to begin to honor that with one another and then begin to understand each other on a deeper level. But that's for the real healing happens bats. Why women. I really value the women being engaged in this conversation at is so but you do have this will and i wanna hear your thoughts about it. The men circle that you founded about that a little bit. And if someone's interested how does one get involved with first of all. They can visit my website. Klay boy can dot com. Yep and on it she can find how to connect. It's every monday night. It's on zoom. We've been we've been doing it for almost nine years but the last year on zoom. Okay we do it. Differently is a network and not a group. We have gatherings and not meetings. We have topics of conversation and not topics of discussion. Were not there to fix one another. Were not there to call anybody out and we suggest that you don't make a commitment to come. You set an intention and with the times right. You'll be there and there to hold space with you and this is a place where for me. I could learn how to connect my head and heart begin to integrate them to be. Because i didn't have the vocabulary growing up as a child to speak from the heart because we were shut down. But now i can learn that. And i can learn that in the presence of other men in a benefit of doing that together is the fact that i grew up. Not trusting men and so we start to realize oh we have so much in common. Were struggling on the same things. And so that's a sacred space. Where men strong in from all walks of life are nurtured together. I liked that nurturing east. But have you. Even i'm thinking in my head are visualizing fifty or sixty people on this call. Maybe it's your than that. But how do you structure the time element so that everyone that whilst expressed something and then they get the feedback from Their brothers on the call. How does that work so yeah so people will first of all. I invite people to be compassionately. Brief and this isn't a discussion. This isn't i say something. Then you respond back to me no. This is a person as expressing themselves for the first time. Ever to say in a circle of men this happened to me and beheld okay and not. Everybody speaks matter of fact. There's guys that will come in. And i don't require anybody to speak. They'll spend the first three months just processing listening soaking up because when we have a circle of twenty men together and canada. There's literally over a thousand life years of wisdom right there on that call odor and there's something that you can learn from me and i can learn from you because of our life experiences together and this is a safe space for that to happen. I usually run as low as twelve. I've had up to thirty five in the circle and it's the energy because we learned that there's a pause after i finish speaking and the next person's began to speak because we want to hear reflected in what was just said and so not. Everybody will speak in a lot of times. There'll be two three four minutes of silence. Now imagine that twenty thirty in a circle and nobody feeling like they gotta fill that void ro. That's where the energy is it's palpable and that's the alchemy of change. That can happen. How long are the sessions our longer. As long as you. We go for an hour and forty five minutes. Yeah and then. I usually keep the line open afterwards but we get crazy just like the next group. Have a beard your hand. I don't know one thing we do say is that we go deep. We will go deep fast but let me tell you something. We can be shallow. Just like the next great. Yeah and he's happen weekly or how often every monday night as a matter of fact knows counted up. Were almost two monday number. Almost four hundred fifty since again. Yeah i'm gonna check in monday night. Now i'm gonna get. I may not speak. But i'm gonna soak it in you. You're always welcomed their guys that will come religiously once a year and that's been the point is this is not a this is not a bible. Study is not a book. Study is not the typical men's group but it does have. I don't know i was gonna. I'm gonna say as a combination of an aa meeting with a bible study with good guys because because there are men who've come up through their recovery program and they're looking for something maybe a little bit more uplifting not to leave their program but and in this is the and for that person because they got burned on organized religion and they can only speak so deeply were their spouse or partner and they're looking for something a little bit more than their recovery program so at least other men but we don't trust each other so that's what we do. Is we create that space so that we can build that trust and begin to speak from the heart in connect a hard level now. I like that like that. We're giving a shout monday. I also wanted to give you a jazz just to the name of the book says it but talk about the book and watch you walk through from the standpoint of what someone pick it up. That yeah circles of men counterintuitive approach to creating men's groups and it's part my story is part stories of the other men and what we've all experienced together. We gone through life and death together literally and it outlines and lays out twelve things that we can do. That are counterintuitive. I've spoke to some of those things that we can come together in a different way than your traditional traditional group. So it's for someone who wants to recognize that they're not alone in the world is a man and it's also a guide that someone can use to begin their own. Men's or very powerful. If you have an extra copy my send me an autograph copy. I'll read it. i'll do. It sounds like a deal one of the things before before we close. I saw the video that you have on your website about mandala lies. And i found that really drinking. I didn't know what expect but it was really intriguing. Can you explain that in short detail to our obvious about it's all about. Oh my gosh. because i'm a very visual person. And when i was beginning to put my life together i was doing it. A heart mapping form and that is the culmination of several years of. How far can i reach out to be able to bring it in and put it into context. Say outer circle is the procession of equinox. The twenty six thousand year cycle the earth that the ancients knew about a so how that fit to where i am today. I live on an axis between fear is still love is darkness to light so those are the x and y axes and compassion religious tradition mythology. All of these things are put into context there. And it's a place for me. That when i go to it. It's my form of meditation. I go to a white space in between the lines. And i can pause knowing that everything's in order and i can have my meditation and it's always evolving. It's always in pencil and todd. You mind if. I share that with our audience when we do the podcast. You're welcome to fantastic fantastic a so. I have one final request a homework assignment. Okay okay. you're in austin texas when my favorite towns in the world so the assignment is for you to find a cause the third act community can in involved with you to promote help raise money get involved in a positive afford thinking way and if you find that 'cause well put it together and we'll come down there and make a difference with somebody. All the hand helps people in need and do something good. So that's your homework assignment. I accept that. And i've already got two three great ideas. I love the challenge the opportunity and when you were telling talking about all that you're doing there it's just it's fabulous fantastic. Thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so much for explaining your programs. I offer the third community to go on plays website and check it out. He has so many good interviews that everyone will love. Check those out as well as his life skills course and the book of course so play. Thank you again appreciate it. Thank you for listening to the third. Act podcast to find out more about who we are spotlight in. Get involved or find shots. Today's episode go to we are third act dot com This is clay boykin and thank you for joining me. On in search. The new compassionate male visit me at new compassionate mail dot com or klay boykin dot com. Join us next time on in search of the new compassionate mail.

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Ep78: Roger Steed from COVID to My 3rd Act

In Search of the New Compassionate Male

39:25 min | 9 months ago

Ep78: Roger Steed from COVID to My 3rd Act

"Pretty good so I feel very blessed number one. I'm healthy and this third act Sort of endeavor came out of that and you know from the recovery period. I finally said well. Let's just make this something good. The third act like all the good conversation. We started last year and move it into some meaningful sort of difference for people that are. I say walking the talk every day. They're really out there in our communities helping unfortunate that don't have food housing clothing. Hope we're talking about the lowest of the low that fall under the cracks. The big organization. So hello my name is playboy can and i am in searched the new compassionate mail today. I have the honor of having with me. Roger steed. Roger has an incredible program. And i was going to read through and summarize it all and so forth but i said the heck with that i want to hear from roger. So high ride. You're welcome thank you very much for having me so first of all. This is very interesting. Name program is called third. Act can you tell me a little bit about that. Yeah i can. It's As i say i'll give you the five minute version and you can expound if you wish but i had govan last march And i was pretty ill weeks and then obviously got better. But the key out of that hole event decisiveness. Which was not fun was because of precautionary reasons. I was basically living in my bedroom or month and a half my wife and daughter. Who'd of the same house you know. We were all very protective early days in the covance sort of pandemic and everyone was not sure about how long to stay away from each other and so it was kinda funny humorous. Some ways eight leave meals on my dresser and then all then i would go back and this is after i was Obviously on the men. And i would. I could work there a tv ad. My computer so Once i started feeling better. I basically had this time on my hands which was the biggest thing in my head to be honest. I mean you know a morning person. So i get up at five thirty and then the market started an ib during my investing thing for my clients. And then i had all this time to think and so you know it. You know lau things sort of game together. I guess from the standpoint of Reassessment of my life as well as this illness. I just been through and what it means of many thing. And when i was gonna do about it as role with the punches and go back to work and go you know back playing golf and stuff with my buddies or what so that was sort of the sort of the kickoff if you will and then from The march period as i got better and started circulating again with my friends. I started walking with the neighbor of close friend. And he's a good listener and He and a couple of my family members and close friends they would My conversations about you know what this all meant and trying to hone in on a meeting for it. And i kinda finegan to conclusion ahead a bigger meeting instead of just you know getting through it and going on with what i was doing. Which was some instances very fine. I thought there's a bigger bigger meaning to it. And i took a back all the way to My college days. When i was a freshman and we are in a fraternity at oklahoma and we had this Pled class outing where excape from the membership for a weekend and have a good time and so we went up to a big lake in oklahoma. Having a good time has freshman guys do a great time and Mike was good and so long story short. The host of that whole events. A pledge brother Gaza guys rallied up late at night. I'm talking about two in the morning. After i'd only oregon to bed as said let's go. We're going to go out in the boat. So he gets his boat out of the storage. And you know it's one of those where he just uh slept it out and goes but it was one of these speedboats So i this sleepily said okay so one of my buddies and so on so we we get in the boat. And i'm sitting behind the driver The host and so he takes off lickety-split. I mean going crazy. I at night at night very light. As long story short he had say pylon telephone pole. Basically in the water and it splits the boat in half and it hits him in the head and basically killing and it it rakish as off me. because i'm behind him and ricochets off man so he's bad shape. I'm a little bit better but Somehow we get to shore and long story short. I was taken to tulsa tulsa. Icu for a week and blah blah blah so they had to do a little reconstruction my skull now my brain and my skull and so from that. That was a big sorta dramatic moment and so i survive. You know we're back to school. Life was good graduated when into the banking business and was doing my thing and Somehow over time. I kept having this nagging feeling Why did i survive. And i played rather died and how to absorb this and go on with his. I never really came to grips with it to be honest. So one aspect of this. I've kind of decided after years of thinking about it is that i kinda wind to keep getting away from oklahoma played brothers and so forth so i moved from oklahoma city. Where at a nice job. I became i went to nasa tootle. Broker dallas texas for two years and then from that situation. They are a job in london england. So here i am little oklahoma boy Alice and i put my hand in the air saint l. Check it out and you know two weeks later. I'm over there living there so we moved to london. Stay there for five years and then they asked me to move to new york. He moved to new york and we. We lived in connecticut for nine years. And then i said you know. I can't keep this recall the old treadmill and new york the commuting treadmill you get up and born third an you go into wall street and you get back on the train at nine o'clock at night and is not a very good quality of life so i did that for nine years but the key element of that is that i was I had a client here in michigan and the client was quite large. And so we. I be sort of quarterback and bring all these analysts and all these specialists out to see the people in the state capital in lansing. And so i'd be out here every three weeks and i got michigan well and ended up Picking up another couple of clients and From that Just decided it's time to make a switch so Twisted my wife's arm big time. Because she didn't want to move and we had three children great a grade school children and we all moved michigan. Twenty two years ago and life has been steadily improving now. You couldn't get us out of michigan. So it's it's quite a journey we've been on but it's been quite delightful and now of the daughters are married One is very close to us. I mean in the house and so life is pretty good so i feel very blessed number. One i'm healthy And this third act Sort of endeavor came out of that and you know from the recovery period. I finally said well lets us make this something good. So i started honing this project out. And i started putting together the website and had a friend Offer some help. Because i i didn't know anything about it. And so i got a young person to do the website and do my social media. And then i got a podcast producer. And you know. I did blogs or newsletters for two or three months and then. We rolled into the podcasts in september. Now we're coming to twenty twenty one. And i'm wanting to as in my words i wanna kick it up a notch. I want to take the third act like all the good conversation. We started last year and move it into some meaningful sort of difference for people that are. I say walking the talk every day. They're really out there in our communities helping the unfortunate that either don't have food out housing clothing the whole bit. We're talking about the lowest of the low that fall under the cracks of the big organization so I've been really blessed to experience a lot of that Through a volunteer perspective as well as he's podcast guests that come on out. The podcast share their story. And i really want to amplify that. And now i wanna make a help them make a difference so that we can raise some dollars and help their cause so that we can help more people so long kind of the by minute version and so the third act says that there was a first and a second act. Oh my it's my third act. Just from the standpoint of trying to make something really positive out the final third of life as kind of the jerusalem of that. But as i think about it i just wrote this and so i. It's my own mind thing. But i think it kinda has a I call it a triple entendre aspect to it. Meaning certain third act for me defined fulfillment and purpose in my life. I called it building a purpose. Berlin a purpose for me building a purpose for the third at community as i continue to get more people to read and listen to the podcast and then finally most importantly of the be improvement and increasing impact. We can have with for quality. People that are helping people throughout the country doesn't have to be in michigan loud the mar but some in texas some in oklahoma our hope. We're helping right now. So i wanna make this I guess you'd say a movement if we can garner the awareness and the attention and get people to sort of. I call it lock arms and together. So that's so is third. Act is formed as ikea a nonprofit organization. Not today today. We're experimenting With a friend. In austin i was telling you about what we're talking about The structure of that We may do an llc. We may do. Just Some other sort of or sort of structure financial structure. Or maybe i'm just Sort of highlighting The cause and ride donors they choose to donate will go directly to the outfit of the they are a charitable organization so it makes That pretty easy but were we are talking and experimenting with different sorts of avenues for financial backing for sure but the main thing is matching resources with need. If and and just let's just get into the trenches. Let's get the money where it needs to go the support were he's a clown. Yeah i have a great story. If you'll allow me right now lease yes. I'm living right now. Wrote the the blog for it. I did a podcast. Friday with a young lady. I've been working with since allows september She is just. I dunno the energizer bunny times ten plus at the same time. She has gigantic heart but also she has this ability to get volunteers to sign up for everything. So i mean okay. I'm serious from last march when she started out food. Delivery furniture delivery to these families in pontiac michigan which is less fortunate a community. We've been helping her and says grown and grown and grown. We did a big christmas program. We helped a hundred and seventy five families which some families had seven people in the family received tailored christmas gifts for each family member with this gigantic spreadsheet and then we had we had everyone delivering. The gifts in the pontiac is really a fun event and everyone felt good about that but now she has a new program. Which i'm really psyched. About and i want to get people to To help out it's a achie- calls a book buddy program and what it is going to do. It's going to take kids high school kids. Volunteers adults out of bloomfield hills birmingham the suburbia detroi- re bedtime stories to children. Third and fourth graders in pontiac The kids pontiac are gonna get new pajamas. Which they don't have and they're gonna get the hot chocolate which is a little enticement. But they're going to get six books. That the raiders going to read to them. They're going to be On google meat as the way they're gonna do it just like a zoom call okay. It'll be really really cool and so i'm really charged up about it. Because i'm really a physio sick about helping anything in the educational field particularly with low income and People that are really a neat so this hits the button really good for me so let me ask this at just making sure stan so somebody in one town is going to connect with families in another town or another place so Federal so it's okay this is this is so cool. The way that started There's a I school in the area bloomfield hills call sacred heart and a teacher. Friend of my friend said yeah. I'm all land and sea started talking to her high school kids and she had twenty five. Kids say i'm in i. I wanna do this. And so this is a beautiful thing that these high school kids from be honest well to do families they wanna give back. They want to participate. And this whole pandemic sorta shut. Shutdown has prevented them from doing that. So this is a way for them to get involved. And they're on their computer of the child in pontiac is on his computer So the google meets us like zoom call and so they'll be reading the one in bloomfield hills. Be reading the book. The child and pontiac will be listening and There's a little bit of a promotion. You read six books and so good. Things happen sort of things. So it's a program that can expand which is great. We think that there are contacts with the Pontiac sort of public skills. That could be over. Five thousand kids like could Use us so it could really be a neat program that we can really expand. Make it useful so basically short story. I challenged my community to get involved this week. And that's gonna come out. Friday and i did the podcast with kimber kimber bishop yankee. Who is the person that created this. And i hope that we get some commitment. I certainly committed my wife. And i committed and we want others to join this ever. So wow that is so powerful. Because i mean personally. I'm not had my own children. But i've watched the neighbor. Kids grow up since they were three four months old right and they used to come over and stay and i mean and so i've had my first family surrogate family so to speak but cova hit and you know we're touching hands through the glass and it just breaks my heart and never did i even a kurd me that we can get onto facetime just across the street in right that. We've we've talked that way but Wow it's powerful for both the kids love it and i know it fills my heart exactly and that's my point or a my hope. My hope is that others that here timber talk about it on the podcast and read my little sore challenge will say shoot. I'm lyn. I'm an alto in some dollars to help that 'cause and we can raise some money which allows us to buys the books which allows us to add more kids and so it could be a beautiful thing we have She has a pretty good goals. want her to attain those in on to do everything i can to help her. So the person who volunteers to read. How would you characterize that person you know. I'm a. I'm just learning about it so okay think it's going to be It could be anyone's of our children to be honest there's something inside that his touching them. Yes no absolutely absolutely i. That's the great part about it from my perspective is that they already had this knack. I mean everyone that that slipped through the spending knows what the situation is. And so if you're used my word if you're captive in your house and you can't go out with your friends and you're tired of playing games and tv in. So how'd you get involved. You can see what's going on in the world. There's this whole inequity between those that are being left out those that are doing well and so my whole approaches to really start trying to help those that are being left. Out of this this Economic situation where we find ourselves and so these children of parents are seeing the same thing so they want to get involved. so i think it's really Is hard it's heartening for me to hear that and it is to that. They were so spontaneous Sign up. that's the cool part. You know. I what i'm learning in. My search for the new compassionate vale is that there really is a live spark of compassion. Within every person we may not realize that that's what it is and a lot you know most of us guys have got some level of feeling that shutdown by the patriarch right and yet that burn is there and was we realized what that is able unleash it then the weird i am more of a more complete person in that way i agree. I mean i've i've said this to anyone that whilst listened to actually but every time i have a great phone conversation with someone new every time i have a podcast with someone that gives me another great story and inspirational way to contribute to their cause. Energizing is so energizing and it gives me the juice of you will to make that nick scholar. Find that next project or find the next Person because they're all over the place they're all over the place. People are are the kindness. That's out there is tremendous and i also know that there is also A willingness to participate from the standpoint of volunteers and donors if you make that connection and so my my hope is i can make the connection through my guests and through my newsletters to get people to To join say joined. The effort is the you know i i can do it. But it'd be it's going to be more effective and it's going to help the cause more if i can get ten people. Twenty people one hundred people to join in the effort. That's my year well you know. You're touching on being all confined and so forth. And i know with my men circle. You know it's almost a lot of times. I see fellows that. Are you know this helpless hopeless. I can't do anything to change the world. who am i you know. And i'm reminded of the story of the young fellow on the beach. He's found all these starfish and he's tossing them out one at a time and the old man comes up to him and you know what he says son. You can't make a difference here. And little boy picks up another will need tosses it out and he said i made a difference to that one. The history you know. And that's i think the spark that that that these people that are volunteering is this feeling of being helpless hopeless because this pandemic and all his go on a so huge. But here's a place where i can make a difference to that one. That's good all that energy can come out. That's exactly right. That's how that's wonderful now. That's just one program. Oh yeah oh yeah. I got i got eight or ten i either. I mean that's the exciting part for me. That gives me the energy to to really reach higher as i say at are trying to step it up this year and and be more meaningful to more organizations. That's my hope. And so You know i had a number i. I don't think anyone because many but i have retired. Guys that are building beds for kids in pontiac. We have a guy. That's repairing bikes for kids. That's retired A gentleman is thirty. Five and San antonio that has this adaptable bright bike program for challenged youth. That need help with that. And it's he's stab as growing that into a mentoring program as beautiful so their stories all over the country and I know i'm scratching the surface but If i can get A handful of these that can really Invite or grab people and bring in more participation than i think. We're going to have a great year. So that's my hope. And that's my my my aspiration as i look out into Twenty twenty one. Well i hold that with you. In what strikes me is your energy and your energy of do and this other person you were describing. How you know energizer bunny. I believe people are are starved for that kind of that leadership was. I'll say this. I think i was. I think you know my life was pretty good. I mean i have my investment business. I have my friends here. Play golf on the weekends. Do the business. Monday through friday life was okay but i didn't really have that connection or that give back possibility until i got sick and getting sick. And you're in your your bedroom for two months. You think about a lot of stuff. It really has a a I don't know mind bender for you so at least what did for me. So that was the genesis of this whole thing which now i'm thankful for to be honest. I so relate to that You know there was a time in my life when things were very dark and i reached the point where it was. You know the age old question. Who am i. Why am i here. Where am i going. And i knew i couldn't answer that question and that was what was the emptiness that i had. And it took took me skin in my my chin on the asphalt enough times to finally begin to see and you know. It's funny because i had a high eat is from organized religion for twenty years. I started going back to I went to a unity church kind of in the new thought. Rash ray and I had my journal. And i mind map. And you know. I'm processing and everybody's healing from something in there and one day our our minister said yea though i walk through the valley of the shadow of death. I don't have to build a condo. There and i just how laughing of course all right looked at me you know but it was like wow i could had a v eight right but it was. It was a it was a humorous twist on a bible verse that got through to me said clay. You have choice. You can choose to be here and you can choose to make a different decision and move on. And that's i. That's kind of. I think perhaps maybe come to you along the way. Yeah i there's there is a spiritual aspect to it that i'm still i say walking with. I don't know exactly how that saga play out. I mean i think of myself as bear joel. I think myself rain. My guests have been pastor. So i think that says something with that and i i do. I do a i do. Think I give a strong disposition for mission and giving back. Weather's i have the also. I can remember but but this is different. This is You know this is all weekends and this is you know after. I go home at five o'clock at night. This is what i'm consumed with so it's taken on a bigger portion of my free time for sure which is great. Because as i say i have a purpose. It's building a purpose for me. And if i can build a purpose for me than i can build a purpose hopefully for others. so yeah. I'm i'm reminded of Viktor frankl and You know what he witnessed during the holocaust and so forth and his always comes back you times. It was. He who has a wide love can endure anyhow in. It's the why that is so so so important to me and to be on the journey i you know i'm still looking for my. Why but i'm on the right. I'm in the m heading in the right direction. Oh you definitely are. You keeps the it gets a little clearing little. Adjust here little just there but but to be on that on a on a path of something greater than oneself right to me. That's virtual reality. That's that's that's that's the what is all about. I'm i'm with you on that one. So sure well. So you've got three parts to your program. Illumination compassion inspiration. You talk about those little bit. Well they yeah. It's sort of all wraps into my thinking of trying to promote good organizations or individuals that are doing great things in our communities. So i've done everything from doing newsletter from simple stuff going to our Little deli next door in our hairdresser. My dry cleaners and interviewing them in the depths of the pandemic and saying are you getting through this game. What are you doing. Are you getting your p. p. e. loan or you're doing an and they were shut down said and these are small businesses that need daily customers. i'm sure they're the same in austin But but that's one aspect of it. Then i started interviewing and talking to bigger organizations or charitable organizations like forgotten harvest is big in our part of the world and they take a lot of food that is both leftover and Still quite good and they give it out to a lot of charitable sorts of endeavors but since the when the and pandemic hit they just completely changed their mission and started these kiosk. All around metro detroit. I think they had seventeen or twenty of them and and they are basically foodbanks portable foodbanks for lack of a definition and so again volunteers and get everyone to donate a lot donations of food and it was a beautiful thing is still ongoing I'm helping the friend. I mentioned kimber. That's doing the book buddy program. She also helps a food delivery. Dr anna furniture dry. Which i'm helping with that and so we're doing our thing in pontiac and other people are doing things in other parts of metro detroit and you know the volunteer aspect is one where i know. Some people cannot do it for physical reasons and also for health reasons. But if you can do it if you can do it. It is a light that turns on that. You'll never forget Teresa mis short witness of this. So you know going into a house with three mattresses on the on the floor. A juno five or six or seven people. Kids and adults are stopping there. You go into a trailer and A gentleman doesn't have any heat and he's been that way for three months and he's he's getting his from a portable heater from a neighbor that has ryan extension cord to his trailer. I mean these people that i really wanted to initially do is promote individuals and organizations that are making a difference below the charitable organizations. Sort of floor is people that are falling below the cracks. I call it. And then they elimination piece is really just the spotlight in the podcasts and bringing more awareness to it and then the inspiration pieces is now was going to be in twenty. Twenty one is getting more people involved. And and making a difference and that means increasing the impact helping to generate more dollars donated dollars to 'cause that's truly a worthwhile and if i can pull all that together than we're gonna make a difference and so that's the hope this year and your focuses is within the city no absolutely not I don't know if you heard before. But i was. I talked to a lady and oklahoma city. That's o k. rebuilding. Okay see So she's helping a lot of or people that are getting their houses fixed up and getting rams built in their homes and she's dynamite. I did a podcast with her. Did apply cast with a gentleman san antonio texas that is during these adaptable bikes for Kids now that are physically Challenged as. There's a number of programs that i've highlighted so now it doesn't doesn't have to be michigan doesn't have to be pontiac Those are just examples. Recently that i've been involved with so you know that's one of the neat things about who having a podcast in meeting so many interesting people. I had the opportunity a couple of years ago to meet and get involved with the charter for compassion. Karen armstrong's organization and networked world and come in contact with so many fascinating people doing so much good and as you're talking. I'm reeling off my mind. I need introduce you to this person. This person birth. I yeah so i. That's that's one way. I think i can help you. Know support lifting. That would be up. I made this. I made this up but it it. It can be true. But i said I did. I used austin as my example. Is i'd love to have a project in austin where i can highlight that to the third act community and we can go down there and make a difference in a. I don't know drive special olympics. You name the caused we can get involved with. Make a difference and that you know more people more my friends at don't have to be guys anyone can come down and join the effort and then hopefully we can get more awareness and therefore more help into that 'cause and take on a hands on sort of approach so i'm totally open to anything but i want to be able to have the might my efforts make a difference in a organization if i you know i love the red cross. I love a lot of the big organizations. But i want to help those that. The red cross is not touching help. Those at the food bank and pontiac is not touching theirs people underneath that blanket. Right don't have. They don't don't have a car. They don't have the ability to They don't speak english. They feel very intimidated about the whole situation. They've find themselves and they need help. They need food. They need You know shoes. They need basic stuff that we in birmingham and bloomfield hills. Take for granted. And that's another thing that's been a mind blower for me although you know it you don't in austin. I'm sure it's the same thing in austin dallas wherever these communities are fifteen twenty minutes from where i live now. People are struggling to survive and if we can help in any way to make their life a little bit better through either some furniture this donated from a family and with bloomfield hills. That goes the pontiac or food delivery or turning on the heat or paying the electric bill for a guy in a trailer. That's been Been didn't have a trustee for three months that is meaningful stuff and that gives me the encouragement and the energy to go the next project. So if somebody wants to chip in with you they want to sign up beside you and work with side you or support you in some fashion. What's the best way for them. To the easiest way to do it is to sign up Through the through my website to the newsletter out of the newsletter. Actually the website has both the podcast and the newsletters Under separate tab so they can find both but it is we are third act dot com. We are a third act dot com and they can find it quickly sign up. There's a button for sign up for the newsletter. And then there's a easy tab to go through all the podcasts from the very beginning and okay so let me clarify and isn't we are third act. Is that all spelled out. In words saw want owen all all one. Yeah okay so there's no his third his t. h. i. r. d. back dot com. Yeah okay well. I'll certainly put that you know of erosion screen put that in the in the text Where i posted. I'm certainly going to be posting on my website. Oh thank you to contact with the website address. Their hand to make sure people can contact you. Wow coming back from covid in doing such great things at that so powerful. Well it's It's powerful for me too. So i it as an i think even my friends that know me from around here They see a difference. I mean we haven't been able to play golf but at the same time a commentary. I get the little different stations in texts and emails. People recognize that. It's making a difference for me. You know if. I can encourage more people to join in on. That's a good thing to well. I i wanna say this. I i would love free to come back. Look get a progress. Report here down the road and Is there anything in the last couple of minutes here that that we've not touched on that you would like to share. No i think just If anyone has any interest in your community to check that check us out just do so. We're also on lincoln. These roger steed is only dan and you. Can i put up some of my blogs newsletters and podcast links on that and we're also on instagram. So they can. We are third act on instagram as wells lincoln facebook facebook guy. Okay so instagram's where to go yesterday linked. Okay okay roger. it's been a real pleasure meeting you and visiting with you today. That's a wrap for now. We'll see you next time. In search of the new compassionate male powerful. I loved our conversation. There's gotta be good news network. Start well i tell you one thing. I'll tell you one thing is i. I've had this vision of the of the compassionate male podcasting network and all the podcasters. We all know each other and say hey you need to get this guy to your show and vice versa. I i would be all in on that for sure and Because i really do believe that. With all the change. That's happening right now. The new compassionate mail really is emerging as new archetype. You know it's not this. It's always talking to somebody. They were talking about well. You know you're talking about the new age guys in the sixties and seventies. You know they were all soft and in their hearts and stuff. And i said that was a pendulum. Swing what we're talking about now is an integration of head and heart as we can really fully show up. You're on to something. I mean it's It's happening it's happening. And it catches people at different times in their life and their their maturity cycle so to speak. And that's why i say even though it wasn't fun i think govan illness was a great thing for me person. I mean i don't know what's gonna lead to. But i know it's not going to be a bad thing it's going to be. I mean i know my head. My head is okay. I've done this guy do ten x so you know we'll see where it goes.

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031 What Does The Mediterranean Diet Look Like?

Healthy Eating For Kids

23:55 min | 1 year ago

031 What Does The Mediterranean Diet Look Like?

"Hello and welcome to kids nutrition. Podcast I'm your host body anti-poll a registered paediatric dietitian based to Harley Street. I help you with Fussy. Eating COSMA protein allergy. And also help you plan your and Diet. I'm so excited that you tuning into the podcast. Let's dive in to lend on about how to empower your child. One Bite at a time many of you on thinking down children going back to school and daycare now if you live in the league hey most schools and this re's will be reopening from the first of June. I know my daughter has the place a couple of days in the week. They are quite short days but it quite nice. If you're worried about churn going bag after you know quite a really long time and I. I'm certainly worried about whether she will even make it because our school have said that if your child has separation anxiety they won't be allowed to join school. I mean that makes me feel really nervous but let's see how it all goes and yes I'm client open to send you my daughter and I'm quite pleased with the procedures. My daughter's school have in place to let kids return to school too and it's only a couple of days a week so let's say let's see how it goes so thank you very much for tuning in today for another episode of Kids Nutrition and I've got a couple pieces of news for you. I am running the next master masterclass for third of June which is a Wednesday evening at eight o'clock and because I know you will all be thinking about getting the lunchboxes ready or prepping meal plans during the week. We're GONNA talk about many planning for children going back to daycare and going back to school. And we'll talk about immunity foods that all nutrients that do have a role in promoting immunity. Talk about prebiotics probiotics. A little bit more on prebiotics really and how to include these foods as part of a nutritious balanced. Diet for children. So if you'd like to come along to that we will. I'll take you through. The portion sizes wants to the portion sizes. He can expect young children toddlers to eat. And then you know how you can determine if the portion sizes on right for older children U. Conn a tent the live session. Then don't worry do book your place anyway because I will send you a replay and you'll be able to watch that back and you have access to that for up to seven days. So do you know Duke Come? Join US live if you can. It's really nice to have a bit of a group discussion time to time. And I think what I've noticed is that from previous sessions. Parents really enjoy hearing what other parents have to say. And I think it's quite nice to know especially in these warring times more problems are the parents facing and how they are dealing with it so like to join a Moscow is usually held via zoom and the last couple of sessions have run have been really successful and I love teaching. I've done loads of teaching over-mighty during my career as a paediatric Dietitian a lot of times. I have done some public work but also most professional settings teaching master's level but also at conferences internationally and within the UK. So that's the first bit of news that will be link in the show notes if you don't know whether show notes are they won't be a link like sort of underneath where you listening underneath the Media Player. There's usually a link are now. I just sort of put a link to the show notes which are usually in my website. And then you have all the lanes for you to book your place onto the monster clouds so the second piece of news and a half of is that. I hope you tuned into the podcast episode with Dr Kate. Steed from to back probiotics. Release My My blog post very soon so by the time has caused episode is release. It might not be quite ready but do tune back in a couple of days time. You find that there's a blog post all about probiotics. I will take you through some of the different strains and the research behind it and which helped conditions that certain strains of beneficial. It's going to be a really useful document for you so I would encourage you to come back and visit the blog which is over on my website. Uk Kids Nutrition Dot Com. So today we're going to all about the Mediterranean Diet and I thought that was quite nice one to get into as while you know time and time again day all good piece of evidence and research show that people who follow the Mediterranean Diet to have quite a bit of health benefits like improved heart even lower risk of depression and certainly the died has been linked to a long knife now. Back in about February this year I did offer some comments to the Huffington Post and those comments were published longside. A Article V job will link to you in the show notes as well and actually what I really enjoyed about when I was doing some background reading for the died. You know on some of the claims around that it can also Mediterranean dark and promote aging. Thought that was really interesting. And all the down to you know helping reduce cognitive decline. Making you you know. Bryant and living long alive from reducing risk of cardiovascular disease which is one of the leading causes of death particularly in the UK so what is a Mediterranean diet typically and it is a died that does not surprise a lot of fruit and vegetables in there? I don't think in Madison much the type of fruits and vegetables that you need to eat. It's really more about getting your family to eat a variety. Are you buying this same fruits and vegetables every week? And if that's the case especially now that we have much much better access to the range of fruit and vegetables and just food in general probably time to go back to buying in purchasing and cooking with a wider range of fruit and vegetables. If you can there's also things like not in the door and not saw particularly useful because they are rich in protein rich in anti oxidants and so he really useful or useful food to include in. Your Dodge. If you aren't fully more for plant based on ask while and of course things like beans and that zito could be kidney. Maybe it could be but a beans at keeping. It really doesn't matter. Just try to incorporate some of those foods in the Diet because again is another use food source of protein that also has fiber and as you know from the chat from the earlier podcast episode. The one where I interviewed Dr cates steed from opt back. We know that fiber foods or prebiotics really important for keeping a friendly bacteria in the gut. Happy they need that for to feed on essentially so if you are interested in falling Mediterranean is and I won't lie it will mean reducing your intake of meat and that would be the case for and and so the one thing that caught does come to mind if you are reducing say animal products. Like red meat and chicken. Then you do need to be really careful about sources of iron rich foods in your family's diet. There is a blog post on iron on my website which link in the show notes so that you can refer to that and things like not green leafy vegetables that are on the legumes they are all sources of I and especially lender. These are really great foods to feature in your family's died regularly and of course if you're reducing your intake of meat then the other food that you could you introduce or eat a little bit more frequently is of course the food now. I know. Children aren't always keen on fish. But depending on what the rest of your family's Diet looks nine it. It obviously. The first abuse thing that comes to mind is that it is a source of Omega. Three fatty acids so that food that hopes with the normal development of the brain. And I particularly if you're pregnant and virtual run right through the five years of age that is really important. Make sure that you're not eating. At least one portion of Oily Fish. So that's things like mackerel. Salmon Trout anchovies and Love Jack Jamie Oliver example of using tend anchovies pasta sauce. I think that's a really great idea in if you're used to that. They may pick up on that flavor but as you start cooking with things like and ingredients like that more frequently good that they actually barely even notice it but again I've gone a podcast episode with all the different ways of eating fish. They you thinking what quite like to get a few kid-friendly fish recipe ideas and there is certainly a block post and podcast on that which I will also link for you to refer back to and of course with the rise in popularity of things the key to Genyk Lecompte. Sometimes you know things like butter may be promoted but as we. We really want to be careful about the type of fast that we are using in your doctor. You can still carry on if some recipes called the butter in baking. That's that's fine however if you aren't cooking than trion use something like olive oil or rapeseed oil as the main source of cooking oil because these oils sorts from plants obviously and they contain the type of fat that is beneficial for your heart. And it's a good idea to use these types of facts cooking early on so that children become accustomed to having these huge wide variety of flavors from from quite an early age. He definitely was named the Best Diet for twenty twenty three years in a row and the eat will guy can certainly be helpful for for you. If you're wanting to have an on you know the type of foods or the food categories to include for others but like I said in the masterclass cover a little bit more about portion sizes and how to plan a kid's meal. I'm a big advocate for not making separate means for the children. And if you've been listening to the podcasts quite regularly then you know that you know I believe in family meals and I never could separate meals for the children and I haven't since I'd say. The girls were Iran. Say Nine months we generally made even been be in a move beyond that early winning stage. I generally prepared me a plan and then I would pretty much adapt. The family foods that I was still suitable for Babysi- that would no added salt to add sugar for example but we just got into a habit of using lots of herbs and spices and things like that make it a little bit more exciting and again. I do have a separate masterclass. You can purchase and watch the recording. Which is all about weaning and are populated that in the show notes as well. So I mean I. I love seafood. Mediterranean lifestyle would be very easy for me to follow it does include lots of pulses and things claritin. You don't have to give out meet at all. I know it says you know the Mediterranean diet a features. A little bit less meat. What he can do is he can just make some really small changes to your to your lifestyle of example if you normally have a few meat eating days in the week then you could perhaps swap one of those for fish or if you find cutting out meat. Altogether would be too difficult for you than Kip. The media and by all means it is a still a nutritious source of protein and iron zinc and the other micronutrients. But what you can do is. Why don't you at an Cup of cooked? Beans set. Could be could be chick peas. It could be butter. Butterbean Cannelloni red kidney beans. I mean the such big variety so you could even involve the kitchen that getting them to help you choose which ones that. You're going to try every week and so on and when you empty out a sort of even canned one can of beans so if you prepare to buy dried beans and cooked it up separately then makes me go further so that you may end up finding that that same meal can now stretch over two meals. So that's now automatically reducing intake of meat anyway and I know he's getting womanized. Nope soups but you could make cold soups or you could make a source with tomatoes. Easing some of these prebiotic foods onions leeks and Golic and you can make up a sort of like a soup base type thing and then use that as a base to us when you prepare are the dishes as soon would like I fancy persona in a way like it still has tomorrow's and he still have some of these pre Vanek foods and cook up a batch of that if we hopped in the fridge. Especially if you do that on a Sunday for example then you've got as a base to use to prepare some of your dishes throughout the week so again it. Just come down to doing a bit of many planning. And of course as I do have a mini planning mini calls over the learning Hump Section of my website. So you can purchase that many calls and you could either teach you how to put together a meal plan as well if you if you find that. You're really not sure how to put together a meal plan and I certainly you know initially particularly before. Covid nineteen head. I used to love being spontaneous as love popping into the shops and just sort of deciding on the day it was going to make full for that evening. But I've certainly had too many plan. Do you know what I have found out that my life is so much easier since many plan if you the ingredients that I need in the fridge or cupboards I don't have to wake up every morning thinking gosh what am I going to make today. All planned out in advance so the key then is if you're interested in following more of a Mediterranean type. Lives that you don't have to follow something. Precisely may be things or aspects of that Mediterranean lifestyle. You can borrow for your family and still read some of the benefits and that could be going to break it down into just a few main things before we wrap up so you're going to try and increase the total amount of fruit and vegetables. And if you finding that say your family only eating one portion of fruit perhaps think about how you could try. Increase that to a couple of different portions. Do you just need to make the fruits? A bit more exciting. Now that it's getting warmer. I've been making some fruit salads and the girls love that so that could be something that you consider. We've into your week a planner and the vegetables. I think many planning would definitely help. You can identify which vegetables you'd like to include and then you could also you know if you're only having say one or two of the same vegetables most days in the week think about expanding that list and like you say it really doesn't matter which wants you are eating. The key is to try and have a variety of fruits and vegetables during the week. If you can so I find that sometimes soups quite easy for lunch. And you could rotate bud by having a soup that does have beans or you could have a lentil dish for lunch and that denies easy way of sort of cutting out meat products. As WHA if you're not a huge fan of meat anyway you could incorporate. Some me has very easily in lunch because you could use a bit of to you know. Use a bit of Salmon Mixing Some Yogurt and it makes into a little pace. Almost most and a sandwich filler. During the week. And that's quite nice and quick and easy. I appreciate kids. Want to take that to school or some kids might not mind it. There's really aren't up to you. You could use those and make your own homemade fish case and things like that but lows ideas in that other recipe blog pos and put caused other easier ways of incorporating some ways of the Mediterranean lifestyle. Is Things Avocado more? Not One thing to bear in mind. Is that nuts. They all rich and calories as laws. The portion sizes will be very important. You may find that if us not a snacks that is really important to think about the portion sizes. You know for children. Maybe just really really small handful would do the same thing for adults. It may even just be a tablespoon so think about the amount that you are using but there's no reason why you can't include nuts in your died especially if you have a child who you know who needs some help with weight gain if they are underweight as well in things nine pilots and seafood pizzas. These are all Mediterranean foods as well as you know. There's nothing wrong with say called Chicken dish with way you then served with a yogurt dip and lots of seasonal grew vegetables on the side. I quit knock using polenta which is a nice talion grain. It's not really. Free is in that in baking as well but I know it's often used as a replacement for Pasta Rice. You could have a little experiment in the could use. Polenta a little bit Couscous as one have some nice. If you have leftover roasted she could just that in through the plant and maybe why not think about adding in some hubs and perhaps a bit of Fettuccini or something like that and that could be really nice light meal for one day in the week as well so really the Mediterranean Diet in not show? Isn't it's not too complicated. It's all about upping your fruit and vegetables for your family incorporating some nuts it could even go into solids as well baking or as a snack using more of the vegetable based oil in your cooking rather than say butter or lard or even deep frying and things like that and trying to think about how you can incorporate fish and I think that's the hardest one for children but also in the UK but not big fish eaters but fish fingers to count because we want things like called and Haddock in our week they all rich in Ardine miniature on. That's really important for the normal growth and development of babies and young children. And then you want your oily fish for the important. Dha The AMIGA. Three fatty acids that again have a role in the normal development of the brain. And I as while but also linked with improved outcomes for cardiovascular disease and lower blood pressure and link to depression and long alive so it's not too difficult to put together a meal plan. That's more Mediterranean inspired loads of recipes online that you could probably look into and the biggest takeaway message is start small if you thinking what love to try more of Mediterranean style diet but it just sounds overwhelming with my kids. Don't like fish or we struggling to increase the amount of fruits and vegetables in house. Then start small. Think about making one goal every week. And how you can work to it. So if you're going to focus on just having more fruit think about some of the creative ways have been increasing fruit intake in the week and the following. We think about how you can increase your vegetables and then the week after that. Think about how you could maybe introduce more beans to try and reduce your intake of red meat for example eating red meat every single day most days of the week. Think about how you could sort of in some Fish or more beans lentils and also nuts in your diet so just focusing on a few small changes over the next thirty days but breaking that down again into one small change that you can make every week so thanks so much for tuning in today to do look out for the blog post on probiotics. That will be out on Monday. Do join the monster close if you like to learn a bad putting together a meal plan for going to school or daycare and harder plan a nutritious meal plan immune-boosting on maintain you'll founded by finance.

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Lakewood MX 2021 Review

The Steve Matthes Show on RacerX

1:34:09 hr | 5 months ago

Lakewood MX 2021 Review

"For we get into the review show. Thanks folks race tech race. Dhec dot com pulp. Twenty one to save get motor. Work done get suspension work. Done great guys down there. They work on your vintage bike as well give you buy some love. It'll give love back all right. Please just get some new seals. Get some Spring rate for your weight and or speed. They got one piece valves over there. A lot of top racers in privateers rely on race. Dhec and if you their and mentioned pulp they'll save on your work so it's a win win for everybody right so get on board with that and thanks for listening to the show network production. Welcome to the fly racing. Steve mathis show presented by max tires rental motor sport dot com and kubo links on racer exxon line dot com with your continued support of our sponsors. We have surpassed seventeen hundred hot cast deliver with over seventeen million downloads book. That amazon banner. 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I'm in colorado for a few more days yep So you justify this many weekends in the family you bring them as many as you can. So i've not been home since Before paula and. I'm actually going to be home for about eight hours. I land wednesday night and thursday morning. I fly to wisconsin for another three by grace. Wow you really. That was very tempted to just drive. Some colorado wisconsin. And just keep on going right all right. Jason thomas um racing how are you. I'm waiting on you guys to put together here. We just We just medications. He was very expensive. It's very uncharacteristic but it is very much what we were. It looks like there's a lot of activity going on like it doesn't seem very relaxing their Cross country trips of a lot of logistics involved. doesn't feel like vacation. No it's not relaxing at all But because it is somewhat work related Me and my accountant will figure out what portions of the trip can be business than write offs and all that so it all comes together by by next april. Also we'd like take this this way. You're kind of a mess like like you're an organized. Chaos live in the state of that. And i can't imagine trying to get the wife. The kids everybody together schedule stuff figure at the drive times like you're kind of jt would've disaster be too strong of a word. Yes it would because it seems like it seems like it's happening pretty well. I'm i'm more shocked. At the way which operates which is everything has last-second right. That you're pulling any of this oss but it seems like it's going to plan that's what i mean. Yeah he's just he doesn't like anyways it's not smooth at all. It's not smooth at all and it's every day is another dramas such as i was at the track and i think seven o'clock yesterday and i had to host the press conference at eight and i there was no. I had no right. I was stranded at the racetrack. And unlike okay. I've gotten nine hundred. Seventy two details dialed in here over the last week but this is my next obstacle. It's like an episode of a tv show. Where like here's here's an drama. And i'm like okay. How am i going to get to the hotel without car And that was just one of many many many all weekend track. Friday very stressful in some sort of training like where at some point is the culmination. It'd be just keep getting you know like this steals training where that keeps throwing the next evolution of this and at some point is going to come together. And you're you're finally ready to be released in the wild. It does feel like that. I mean putting the five different post ratios together at the end of the race. And i'm like okay. I'll get to the how i get back to my hotel that's number six five toast ratios i so we just relax take each step at a time on so yeah organized chaos. That's exactly what it is in my gosh on friday. I was internally almost losing my mind will make it to the track. At times. and then samantha. Nicolini our social media. Person is like hey you have to be at the track at three. We have an interview lineup. So i'm trying to turn this. Titanic we're in moab Three hundred thirty miles on the track friday morning. And i'm trying to get this pack of my family and drive five hours. Because there's one rider i would say you don't wanna you know no show on probably be telling me so so yeah the friday was added or took years off my life for sure. Yeah well it was nice. You stop by here to see the dog on your way up through vegas last week. So that was great o. Onnell steve had treats he had. He had an arcade system ready for the children. Uncle steed entertaining every now the to do with anti poopie. Nothing to do with her. At all i me yup. Yep see kids only has. I actually asked you. Import game like wait. You have literally like two or three random people. Come to your house every monday. You kids ever come. And i think aiden keefer. Who's not even a kid. It was pretty much the only answer. Come yep that's it. No children ever nothing. Nothing so well have fun on the rest of your vacation which and try to try to keep it in between the lines. all right. let's Let's talk about lakewood. What race that. That four fifty. I moto we. That was something else. Man that was that was great. That was so fun to watch. Ac lead kenny. Lead dylan lead. Then county lead. What a rice. Yeah it really is something you almost never seen from the fifties like. There are sorry from the fifties. We've seen some fifty votes through the years Actually track ironically Where you have these battles where you can't even keep up. You're like wait. I thought this guy was the third. He's six now he's in fourth. Now he's fit like you could not keep up with the action. It almost reminds me the absolute peak of racing action legendary nine hundred ninety atlanta supercross jt. I think you remember that one. Yup yup where the announcers. Dave just and larry myers just give up. Give up and they just say they're passing each other at every corner and that's the way it was like. If you ask anyone like we're was web. Moose can sexton. I dunno craig. And plus on each lap nowhere widow it was like four three tenths just shuffling. Every three turns it real. It was great. I wonder you know. Osborne didn't like it. Justin bogle didn't like it. Few other guys didn't like it but jt. The track was definitely something different than what we've seen at a national. There was dust out there. I i had. I was dirty look. Jt at utah. I wasn't solman but certainly lot of dust and dirt in the air because the wind picked up i guess and and some people weren't there to influence the track. I guess and the wind picked up at one point and dried it really out real different track. Prep and i say the most guys i talked to you could move around. And that's what produces the passing. So let's leave. Let's let's let's go back into that a little bit. Well i think it's great to have some variety you know we. We should have racist that are harder than others and some their saucer and routier. And like i like having different than us in different soil types in preparation styles. And all that. I think that really leads to a better series. Clearly there was an effort here to not rip it as deep in the morning which you know the big fear there is kind of what we saw a little bit in the second moto. You're worried about dust and you're worried about getting really hard. Pack and turning into almost concrete especially with a base soil likely see at thunder valley But you know. I thought until that maybe maybe a few spots in the second moto got got dusty and heart pack. I'm watching it back right now and there are certainly some spots. That could have been a little better. But i thought certainly time qualifying certainly in the first moto it. Was you know one of the best prep attracts. We've seen in quite a while especially thunder valley. You just run into a little bit of that challenge in the second moto and it's kind of pick your poison you want a softer racetrack at. That is just muddy in the morning. It's the only way to go about it. And then you're gonna have a little bit softer and more supple racetrack in the second or do you want to have it. Perfect all day and then sacrifice a little bit in the second motor. I just don't want every corner where you have to pick a slot and get into the the ruts over by behind the starting gate coming onto the start straight like that corner like that corner was in the past wrote it up. You know this one the guys who go outside inside you know it was just i wanna see passing and this this this allows guys to pass. The lakewood generally has been pretty rutty pretty muddy. Pretty rutty so. I don't know i not everybody's a fan of it you'll never get anybody to agree hundred percent on it but i like track. Prep i thought i thought it really helped the race. I thought that's why we got to see a good race. La drives me. Nuts is the absolute because there are two completely different schools of thought We had super right attracts. That did lee to awesome battles at this track. Some of those two fifty voters i reference or because of the russians it was causing the stakes. And everybody you know one could put imperfect laps so they make mistakes and they passed each other so we've seen at work with the super rutted conditions. Sometimes and then yesterday. I mean. I thought it was going to be back. I like this is is cannot be what they did on purpose. It did not seem like it was by design. And i'm like uh-huh they. They either fell behind a water. Doing on friday you go to the track of it was super deep. It was super deep. And then saturday morning. Everybody was like what happened like it. Looked like they'd taken a hairdryer to the track. Like it dried out in. Did you make any sense in twelve hours. How much drier. so i'm like man. This can't be how they planned it. Now they're going to be behind. There's no way he's going to work and then it did actually work which i don't know if that was a happy accident or maybe it was by design. I heard the wind had massive wind. Who is very well it was. I don't know where you were at. St but i was up on a hill and it was. I mean. It was windy all day on saturday in the morning all the way through. I didn't know you were there. Jk you were here this weekend. Wow he sneaks into it's it's it's real real shady. No i have credential i but i do right. Shout out to my credential not being ready for the first round and in my past experience when your credential. Isn't there on the first round. You are trapped in credential hell and it doesn't get taken care of for five to six races. This is my experience as many others experiences. If it's their round one you're in if it's not you are screwed and that's where i'm at right now. Emailed talk to people all last week. nothing happened believing. You're you're in some sort of story it will get taken care of but the over under has been set at four races and i take the over. So let's get back to the attract prep and by the way i was somehow ended up to credentials seized. So you can just eat meat so the next couple of weeks ago. Yeah please just right. Because i am both racer x n television chrome to different people and you caused the race to be on Late last night as well. I heard actually. I'm glad you brought that up. Here's one other thing about the track. Prep because the race was not scheduled to be on live on. Nbc anyway was going to be on like two hours later They took an extra eight minutes. They added eight minutes to track maintenance which they do not normally have time to do and can't do To get a little more water on the track okay low behold. Yeah because at the end of that first bodo you're seeing dust and i i agree jt. I was like man. These second motors are going to be how they going to pull us together and then That extra it's motives. Were pretty good. And i'm like oh man that's almost the ideal timing that you would need. You could get away with not flooding in the morning. Is you could get a little more water into the track midway day which you normally can't do because you're trying to pass four straight hours of racing so i don't know it. It was all like this happy coincidence to me. That were ended up being different than usual. We also pretty good. We're waiting for the riders of trash. It steve but you're right no hundred lawrence and robson said they loved it. Also we have some nice cloud cover for the second photo. That probably helped also. Yeah that might help. But you know. I don't know man you'll never win on this. Because some writers are going to say you know the rougher the nastier deeper the more technical the more rugged the better and you'll also hear the argument that slow down which is safer We are some riders. Say that But then others are like yeah. Sure it looks like there's eight bucks in a corner but one is better than the other seven. It's it looks multi multi-lined but it's not multi line like not all. How can you ate in a corner. That are equally fast right. Yeah so just let me move around and figure it out so you would have to completely different schools of thought and what i'm going back to is the absolute one group will say absolutely the rutted track is the best track and the other will say the unruh detractors detractors the best track they both can't be right so i'm not sure well i think we've seen enough of the rots and the soaked in the first practice to now try the other way so let's try that after it was no no. Let's try that like go and watch nationals from back in the day and even when jt raced which is god knows thirty years ago now tracks were different services were different. We'd add different track surfaces. And let's try that. Let's go back to that. But anyway harvey wonders You know back then. They didn't have that time trench. I mean the motives were the day was pretty lax right so they could just as we need to water for ten more minutes behind. Yes do it But the other thing is i mean ruts. You couldn't you. Jt may run on this. If you prepped attract executives the two days and four stroke days part of the rugs are a byproduct of the bikes now right. Yes in one. Other factor to that we can't do anymore is The promoters in ama whoever the powers that be would also be fairly proactive practice where they would put a cease favorite tough blocks or you. Hey bails or whatever the insides corners and they would observe those and force us to create other lines would force us to create wines through the middle of the corner of the outside of the corner and then they would leave those and then once it was race time they would open up the insides in the no sense is would become usable as well. We can't do that anymore with time. Qualifying session so that's a under reported on aspect of it and it's just yes just the format we're in now but it certainly changes how the lines form. I thought they did that in supercross now on oh wait. No that's just a tough blocks falling into the track repeatedly. Okay i got. I got mixed up all right. Hey saturday practice was up partially because you had two days. Maybe they did it sunday morning to because none of it with it was just practice. So i see. Yeah we have we when i started. We had friday practice. I wrote friday practice practice. Hang out saturday race sunday. There was amazing word. Saturday sunday friday was a open to our practice. All bikes all sizes. Just to play golf. I was in high school so saturday was usually homework day for me to you and only you. Jt friday for me was at the hotel. Everyone checking out their bikes. A bike show with mechanics. Show your box. Stucco your all right if anyone's wondering why these changes were made eventually teams are like. Yeah let's just go to a one day at least that's what that came from right right. Setups three yes. Three days at a hotel for every member of our staff. So ken rocks in one one dylan for under steady had a few break issue and motor lawn. Not really sure you know if that was true or not. But anyways kenny sneaks by for the first moto win dylan road gray dylan road. Fantastic in the second moto. Two men and kenny wins. And he's upset at any sort of a possum playing possum. he doesn't want to talk about. Possums doesn't want to eat a possum. Want any possum talk at all very angry about this. So but anyways he's amazing yeah Yes so as deep field is i. Motor was spectacular for awhile and then eventually was just three of them you know. Ac along with those two broke away and then they broke a I notice early. I noticed early. And we know that like sex in an aco. Paul's fast and other guys were proven champions. Two it's dumb to say it's over after two rounds what you're seeing a separation for sure. Like would anyone say that rockin and francis ours the two best guys in the first four motives like did you even argue that nope no okay all right. I won't. I won't argue. That's the thing it was able to two best guys at the first two races. Where the same guys. yeah. But adam lead laps. Both racists sexton was good enough mary. I moto oklahoma. Meaning here. i mean part of the part of the game is not crashing. Like that's part of it. Yes to me kenny. Going one and coulda shoulda won the first moto and then pass all those guys you came from nine to second and motoo. I'm like okay. I know it's only around two. I know and it could change. But there's a little bit of a pattern development for an is for real. I will now last week. I wasn't sure not wasn't sure he's good in. We'll be good the rest of this year. Yeah this is a real threat. He just seemed right. My favorite right now he ripped through the pack in that second moto like through these awesome dudes. You know so. I'm what i'm getting at. Is here if it were high noses ridiculous around too but look if you're week this literally been the discussion of judge and a jury here will rocks and be able to maintain this for twenty four motives. Were about to start having the same conversation again. I don't think there's any worries about randy's like he just did it last year crooked judo. If kenny keeps us up for the first five or six races now going to get back into the nobody's gonna fade will for worry right so no where we at your roxanne's the two time national champion so to say you know the only question we have is physical going ahead going forward. I'm aware i heard you know we got but jt. You're onboard horrendous. You're on the front is train. Yeah i mean he's a great. Oh boy here we go wait hold on. I know i'm waiting. He's been he's been very. There's nothing you can take away from. Friend israel absolutely nunnelee go with all due respect. This is with with all due respect. Not at all. No what am i going. What am i going to say. I think you're gonna say you're not. You're not you want to wait. You want to wait. No i'm good with francis. I'm more wondering. Do the other guys respond that that's all. I think this is going to be this guy all the way throughout. I'm just wondering. Can these other guys get any better if they don't. They're not going to see him. You know and when. I say who i mean sexton because i think he gets back into their at times if he can win in this class i think cinderella can win. Twisting has been much better so while france's finest really doesn't have anything to do with friends from wondering if the other guys get better and it's not just these two running away all the time So that that's more what i'm looking for. I think for this good all year. We what do you think of. I'll give you that that's totally. I mean you think about the names that you would have to just write off. It doesn't seem possible right doesn't seem possible to be like. Yeah tomac and loose scan and osborne and where they got ready. I mean they will never be able to get them crazy. The the question was to me. Is this repeatable by verandas going forward. And that's where we're at. I don't think we're dissing any of the other guys will be good. I'm more. I'm more wondering. Can the other guys catch up. Can they raise their game. Because i don't think they're writing very well. There's a there's a whole lot of guys that we're going to get to better not riding well right now. Can they get back to their. Their normal level can give us some trouble right. I'm not saying they're going to go smoke him or anything. But if you don't if you don't think zack marvins underperforming tomac good lord. We'll get to him Web all these guys are. They're not writing very well right now and i think they would be the first one to agree with that. And then you look at sexton who was arguably better than francis you know at the first round crashes in the first turner. I think he's gonna be in there too. So i'm looking for a little bit more parody than just a friend us. Run away in the series or roxanne for that matter. I mean yeah. Of course. Not but i'm saying like we're speaking specifically I just think we're gonna see lots of different tracks. Lots of different weather lots of different variety in. And we'll get some of these guys getting getting better over the of season while he ripped through the pack in moto two which is awesome. But it also says you know his starts aren't quite area right They weren't i moto sakamoto not so much paula. Not so much. So that's the that's always been his thing we just starts. And kenny starts adams great for the most part yes starts and even that first lap or so And and adam and kenny are like all time in that category of just polish fast. Two seconds into the race But it's weird. You really feel like the difference. When you've lost seventeen supercross how much longer these races go you know. He had plenty of time. Yeah he was no catching kenny. Kenny was ridiculous. And that's like a motive. But i mean i think i don't have all the angles that you do from up in the tower but barsha was a long way off plus probably a long way off right and he caught him with time to spare right adore. Pretty far up. The road from friends weren't they. Oh yeah oh yeah yeah you almost have to remind yourself like dude this racist literally fifteen more minutes than a supercross main. Yeah no and you can overcome a lot more. That second moto for horrendous showed me more than his win more than moto win apolo to me like he was just like seeing guys. I gotta go close the gap on kenya a little bit. But hey whatever you know. I think i think when the tracks that brutal was rough and hot and really challenging to go fast on you can make up a lot of time. You know the the gaps really get as far as if you're on it and you're really aggressive at the end versus guys. That are just trying to survive. You can make up. You know three four five seconds a lap which is pretty crazy but it happens all time so either so we dropped the possum question to rocks and in the press conference unbelievably unprofessional. But he did it. Why why is there a double entendre. Meaning of this word. That i'm not aware of the kiefer's theories ridiculous. It's ridiculous and you just gave it credence you. I was a leading kenny response. So just so people understand so what he said. He thought that maybe kennywood actually knew that he would be good. At the beginning it was playing off. Yea which is ridiculous theory right right ken. He's gonna go right going to psych out the world's best riders here by right. So kenny actually responded to keep comment pretty pretty brutally. Yeah so. I felt like hey kenny. Obviously he's passionate about this. That's not what he was doing. He responds to keefer in an instagram post. He might want to spread the word. A little more. Broadly than that. So i said hey for the record kenny you i think you want to let the world know that you were not playing possum. The beginning of the season is that. I believe that's excellent journalistic question. I don't know. Ibm kenny. I start straight. I focused. I sent him a video instagram story of him going by me and then like you know whatever ten seconds right before another guy comes and i just put a giant possum in the middle of the story. There's actually a possum gift and attitude. And he was not happy. So but i mean he was great. So there's a real question. I think it was. I bet you fans out there. They're wondering wait a minute. Maybe he was lying. So i can't say no i swear to god i really did not think i would be this good at the beginning of not have mind game. He was great. Friend is was great. That was cool to watch acc. I was surprised how much. Ac dropped off at the end of motor one jt. Like i'm not surprised that they gap them right like whatever that's fine they're on it. O adam would drop back that much. Yeah you think maybe once you realize it's not going to happen. Yeah it's a conscious decision maybe to just bring it home right because i think if you know you're going to stay in your position like you're secure from the guys behind you and you you you right. You're giving up the ghost guys in front of you. Then why not save some energy and just chill you know i. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. You know if he was full out in. Like i gotta win. I gotta win any drop off. I think that would be concerning. But i don't believe that was really the case. I think he was probably conserving little energy. And i think he was deep down thinking. If i if i say myself here. There's a chance that can win overall which didn't go that way. But he he couldn't be. I the finish line. He just couldn't. Kenny had to blow by those rollers opposite of last week. Right where it was just a madman. Kenny was just unstoppable. On that i lab. How about those that. I love about the rollers dude was awesome. It's when you really break it down. Adam protected the inside which by doing that. He wasn't able to hop over that. Big jug on you right which it's crazy how. These guys are so skilled. Because that wasn't what was designed to be jumped right. The track is built where they were supposed to roll that one and then double in what. These guys decided. Screw that i'm going to hop over to take off and went out. Yeah kenny's like okay. Go inside. I'm gonna blow past you here but adam understandably we're trying to guard the inside Soon you really look at it makes sense but yeah it was visually. It was pretty cool to watch. I think we're at that point at that point here i mean. Don't you guys feel like we're fair. Yes it is we need to. We really need to. We really need to talk this so just panic button where we at. Yeah i got it i. I'm sorry i had to sign the junk drawer and the middle of the night at the junk drawer. Because i didn't even want to look to the junk drawer last week right so i had to go find a drawer and dig through the door. Jt at least you had considered the location of it. I found it. I knew where it was And i flew back last night from the race. It was the first thing i did when i walked in was wound out of that drawer and set it on the counter. Where this morning. It's it's not good so end of this because we you know three hundred there it is. I mean it been actively about any of that. Why was you know. We're we're on live podcasting. So i couldn't quite get it to play right when i wanted to so but i think it was interesting watching. You know we just three hundred and forty mile trip to make this interview happened. Because i i watched it. I watched we interview. 'cause i wanted to see how thome ex kind of approach to this would be. We don't get a lot of tomac interviews right where he's transparent so i was curious to see where his demeanor. What demeanor would be his attitude. After watching it. I felt like he was pretty loose and he was pretty forthcoming. The weekend wasn't good and he expected it to be much better in thunder valley so going into the morning as a guy he'll be he'll be pretty good today. I expect a podium from him. Find went pretty well and then odor. God were the motos. Not anything like that So i was curious to see how we kind of absorb that interview and thought and then to see the motos go completely the wrong direction. It was even more concerning a completely had the same five You know. I run into a lot of random fans. Unlike you guys actually talked to them and you know so the the standard question you leaders. Who do you think's gonna take that. I'm like what about tomac man like. He's good at the track one her last year. He really seemed like he's he's got a plan that last he'll fix it from last week and then yeah when you watch him. I think he was second or third qualifying who he saw him putting his his heater last. Sure as hell look good. So i'm like why not and Yeah so that made it worse right like he didn't come into the race like he had told me the field like it's going to be hard if i start eight. It's gonna be hard to pass. These guys know he made it sound like that wasn't acceptable and it'll be better and i'll world oko further forward this weekend so to hear that and then have it. Actually i mean it was really worse than power wasn't it. It was definitely worse. Yes i mean. I mean this is the problem i mean again. Joyce of archie just went around him sexton went by him. He was still this is. This is shocking. I mean the second moto he was there and then moose who arguably had a bad moto going from first nights absolutely dropped till mac. I mean he was sixteen seconds behind. Marvin was arguably having a bad motoo. It's unbelievable yeah. I mean the obvious thing. People are going to be like well. He's leaving the team. He's he's just riding it out for six months but that's not normal like we don't see guys at that level ever do that. No no absolutely no. I think these guys like him. Don't mail it in right. They don't just god given up shadow to the guy on twitter. Who said that he heard couch took all of his works parts away that was. That was the tweet. Isn't shut out to that guy cow. He just rolling out of production clamps and breaks down. Here you go. It's not just the guy on twitter. Comets comments just youtube videos in fact. Okay alright arison theorists out there. Imagine that it's squash this right now. We've seen riders until max level switch teams a hundred times the team and the rider do everything they can to the last jedi work with each other often. Winning james stewart on this team went twenty four. No while leaving the team in this series for the same team so there is no evidence that cowboys pulling parts or s you guys. I'm gonna roll around in length. And why why would kelly ever ever. I don't even want to justify that. That's it's the no unbeliev believable through god. yes and. here's tomas motivation. Everybody what did they get when they went race. Probably one hundred grand. what are they. They went to tight will probably a million dollars. You you take too much money on the line to just cruise so kelly kelly's plan is to make their bike worse. Yeah vidal home. Act and make their michael worse. Were already talked about this too much. You're right you're right. He this was really bad. If you weren't there and and also imagine all the therapists that are going to see people to mike fans on tomorrow morning at their offices because you go to colorado. You're a casual fan. You go to colorado. You've seen eli tomac loop on the field for ten years and then you see this. It's just like what's happened. Stephen heard from dylan dylan has been quiet for a long time now. Ten arraigning yellow yellow. It was bad. And i mean look you went back to his old set up so that there was some problems with setups stuff last week against in. This is the old setup and they need a new set up now from the old setup all set up for a new setup. I'm not a big guy but we set up really. Where where does it go from here and this is. This is a very We're just there's no right answer or wrong answer but what what happens now. I just think he's a five to ten guy the rest of the year like he gets the start and he may get on the box and you went as you win. Southwick does he. Does he show up and perform at the racist where we expect to. I don't think so. I don't think you can be this bad on a track that you're normally pretty good at and win a race down. Okay does he like. Is this week like oh hell no keys in cortez right now just hammering motos as we speak or is it like this. We'll get him next year. Just go through the motions. Didn't you feel like after his double d. nf last year. It was kinda like this ox on. Just gonna go through the motions. I'm already always points. That is still one some iron man you know it wasn't when it's bad known it wasn't this bad. But when he put himself in position to win he did and when he didn't he didn't win right. Yeah and that one i can. I can almost understand last year because you could. You could take the attitude of. This wasn't my fault so screw it where this year it feels like. Hey this is this is on you man like you gotta you gotta go fast. Okay maybe setups also on you to set your bike up the way you want to you. You can't go ten ten a race you usually dominate at and not. Take some of the not take some of the blame. I just don't believe that regardless of what is going on behind the scenes you have to take some of the blame talk text and after the race and i didn't. I didn't really quite know how to put it to chase. But i did want to ask him a question. Like what's it like just blowing bilateral tomac literally get out of the way and he's like yeah. It is kinda weird. I gotta admit do you guys do you guys feel like some of the aura is gone for sure as the shine is coming off where. I don't think these guys are intimidated anymore. You've been on you've been on the you've been on the. Hey man he's a he's twenty eight. He's older window thing the window thing you've been on the winning so six years as being five or six years as like the guy you just can't maintain it but i don't know like i was feeling good about that theory but i didn't expect like this is an inexplicable level at least supercross like manageable. Where we all keep saying like maybe three percent maybe just lost that lasts percent which seems reasonable. But this doesn't seem. I don't really have any parallels any can come up with a parallel. He has injuries as ours. We know he's on the chad reed. Twenty ten like were sucked. Apparently he had seen our or he was sick suicide and he was on. Hey at least you know the year before. He won the title on us. Zukis which another team like Books to say it's the same guy. Same bike saint team. Same everything. I i don't know i have no parallels to this unless there's some injury we don't know i can't think of going first to tents in essentially one year's time shut out to marks for the tweet saying here's star racing with their contract we through a shredder bad as it is for tomac. It's not a whole lot better for web or muskegon or her a few. I guess the expectations are a little different. But i mean for web. I don't think they should be a whole lot different. No i agree. I mean so web got the whole shot moto two and finish eighth. Marvin never really got going any point during the day. Marvin marvin got the whole shot. Sakamoto marvin did they were side by side and they got eaten up like it's pretty alarming when they get starts how quickly they start getting shuffled. It's slightly better for those guys than tomac. But only because they're not three time national champion right but like you see web. Try all his tricks to like ride to keep dudes behind him and do all those things and advise him about three quarters of a lap before they still get him anyway. Yeah you can. You can literally see the frustration in him right. he's just fighting fighting those guys he just. He doesn't have it yet. I'm guessing yet but he just doesn't have a right now right right still though the the most worried for tomac right well yeah. That's the expectations thing right. It's is his legacy and four fifty motocross just so strong to see an also. He's finishing worse than all those guys too. So there's that yeah gotta be tough over redbook. Atm on the off week. Trying to figure it out. Yeah i talked to roger de coster saturday morning and as usual super roger. He's like the forks for too soft at the opener and the bikes balanced. But hey they picked those settings classic classic raj again they also a. That's fair like you have to take some as a writer. You're the one telling that the engineers the direction you want to go. Jc like barsha was good again. Bam bam really good. yeah give give them whatever. He's got so much better he's really good. He likes different team. Barsha and those two guys is stark. We you're right about that but you know why four fifties pretty much work them at first round series and that is just i'm just saying okay. Okay so he talks. And you're saying i'm just saying friendless. Ap given to him so we have always wondered what would be like. It's got on and now we have to be like what is he. Got on one of those. Guess yes we have to ask that question. I have to of course but nobody has been good. An ap was good too man. Ap was he came from. He told me that he doesn't really like lakewood. It gets them. You know this and that he still came up in the first moto worked his way up and sakamoto was great as well so. Ap's in this thing man really showing jt. So i was very invested in. Those takes. That i had i literally remember. What did you say that was so i. i know i'm very annoyed either one. I'm here for exactly. I'm all about it but i don't remember what it says. No one is. No one is happy about this time. You talk shit on these writers and now they're making you pay. I'm fine with that. But no he's he's he's been good and you and you know era's gonna get better at these east coast tracks. There's always that bullshit about know. He's an east coast guy and you know without a lot of evidence that points to it but one hundred percent better on the east coast right. I mean we all know that. Yeah i think we're gonna see a lot of those guys continued to be really good. I think my biggest question is do the guys. That have sucked. Do they get better. I yeah that's true i was. I was digging through every resource that i had to try to think of a parallel. Like hey a weekend off them and go to highpoint today. We off and go to east coast. How many times have we seen a guy really bad the first couple motos and then start winning. The only one i could think of was done through teen twenty. Fourteen stu a disaster. The first foremost at town end glen helen and then he goes to high point and just rolls canard and kenny dope. And i don't remember what happened after that. Twenty eleven also by the way don dungeon twenty whatever year that was hanged on ten twenty eleven right. But i feel like the. Wasn't rv even in two thousand eleven salvaging three-fourths he was. He was like forty seconds. Down you're right. He did find forty seconds. Also i guess there is yes sims win. Highpoint was suppose to be taken away but no one has really done that. Do you think has direct changed. You think anybody who who would have won that race. Who should win win that race. Do we know. Thank kenny up. Second okay yes. That's right said his results were to be removed. Yes and during literally. No one has done that hard in the next too. Yep anyways so okay. So i guess it has been done. Maybe we are we overacting. We have seen dude thirty to forty seconds off at the end of moto and then by around three or four. They're winning well. It's possible i think this weekend off is is really big And we'll find out right. We'll we'll see in pennsylvania and a couple of weeks but i think there is an opportunity here for gas. Take some big steps forward if they if they're willing to do it. That's that's i think another question. Our guys like tomac. Are they going to just drop everything at Throw themselves at this or they just like screw it. The summer's gonna suck. If you say thirty forty seconds it'd be great. Could still be thirty seconds back if he got thirty seconds. He's a minute he was a minute behind. It was a mess so he needs double finding thirty seconds his shit okay all right back at the end of the second moto he just quit. I i can't believe what i was seeing out there. I don't know what happened. I still. I still can't believe i. He got rolled by dudes get out of the allies on. I was just riding around right. So the one minute deficit thirty he could have been thirty. Four thirty five to forty wasn't catching marvin. Marvin was pulling away. Marvin was like fifteen to sixteen seconds ahead of them. So rank them in order. I think i know who's number one. But god tomac web moose can one two three in order of most worried about one home x. y. Right web seconds and alpa least answered. Okay here's why put webs actually beating smart but the reason i put ahead is because there is this fear of like this narrative that it's just to be like will forever know that cooper web just wasn't very good outdoors and it will be a serious mark or stain on his legacy. Rogers said they don't care about that thing that they don't but more ready proved himself he if he ends up not winning another national overall for the rest of his career. He might win more but even if he doesn't was good in his time. This is a french. Never figuring it out if it continues like this which i think is more of a problem. How do you explain the dominant one one melville from web couple years ago. I don't know see. where are you out on web. Because you've been defiant saying that web's going to be good the summer. He had at the extra time. He had those weekends after supercross. He's really proud like he's gonna come out. This is the only thing he's never one where you out on that take. I still think there's no mailing it in for web. He's trying he's going for any working but he's not mail in this thing and you could. You could see him how pissed he was. I know somebody who talked to him after the race. And it's not good right So yeah it's you know. I i think the effort is there. I think he's just wondering what the hell is going on right slut. I don't know about tomac if the effort is i. I don't know what's going on so strange. I picked on the title all right. Let's move along here so sex and six cajal for chase. He said it's not a good track form so he was okay with ride but he can't wait to get back east christian. Craig was good christian. Craig good. I was trying to get them after the race to talk about the difference between his honda and yamaha is really wouldn't go. There didn't really want to this ticket truck right. I feel so. Craig was really good against seventh overall for him her. The group like we talk about these ten or twelve guys. Like the way i have gone. He's just in that group. He's in that for she last to what we have to remember that there's really like you know continuing to shit on. Eli here if you look at the results to me. That top ten is a group right. And then you have this savant. Ci bogle mad max. Those guys are buddy osborne. The defending champion. Back flared up. I don't care. I you guys know this. Don't care how much she was telling us. He was fine. I was always very wary. I'm happy to right. I'm not happy to be right on this but backs are gnarly and i also motocross right. So let i. I understand were saying but if you're you've had back injuries i know right and i asked had nagging ones for a long time. They're good and so they're not right. You know no also sure it's really hard to say like. Yeah because you can feel fine. I feel fine for months at a time. Then i'll get out of a chair one day and i'm a all shit and nothing really brought it on just decided to be bad again so i don't know it's not good for zakho that's for sure i don't even know. Did he. raise the second more or not. He try webs. yeah he tried. Okay okay the press release husky press release. Said he did not lineup. No he definitely no. We definitely did. I thought i saw. Yeah i thought oh my timing scoring. i saw him like in last. Whatever not out for dns but this is funny. We went through all this stuff and some web at mar before we even got to. Osborne situation really is worse. But it's the injury injury related though three guys from what we know are nothing new injury so i just went back and motocross. I mean he. I know i know what's wrong with and do this tough like you know like you. Sit down your seat bounce you whatever you get off the couch wrong like mentioned it's just he's i think you need surgery surgery and come back so i if he's going to continue to you know week off which is good so but that's not good for jack osborne at what point at what point like okay the championships problem. I'm already. I'm already right. I'm saying like when do you pull the plug now day. Okay okay fair enough fair you guys saw you get a wider angle. That i do watch the rice in the side. First photo that you both seem to think that he was in that one till he he fell. Yeah yeah those three guys but you're exactly right there. That was that moto a year ago. You're going here comes back just waiting more at the twenty minute mark. These guys are in big trouble. Yup and yeah. I mean you crash so we didn't get to see about good job. He had hit a bike issue and a fall but he looked really good. This is a good track forum. Boga was surprising. I may or may not have been trying to pick logo for mix fantasy and then somebody who's really close to bogle who named schmidt truman told me to not pick them so Thanks for that. Bogle rogue well dino. After the race he was not happy. But you know it is what it is for dino frankfurt. He was good. Scott messy shut up to scott messy rodbell summer rodbell back nineteen. I'll tell you it was hanging out with that. Whole group era in him My good close personal friend connor. Jt enough you know him. Oh we'll get yeah. We were hanging out before practice and I was he said he was battling rod bill last week and i was like hey. That's pretty good. I mean robert your fifteen guys like not anymore. I sucked now okay. So that's that also kate and array found each other. Both motos saying oh. Yeah oh yeah both motos twenty apart different times but oh no at some point. They all came together. Williams william and kate coming together unbelievable. Hey ray beat him. I moto second moto k. Got him late so great unreal real okay so we ranked the the most worried. Jt you never did rank. Did you rank marvin second web. Mark marvins expectations. Okay so we got another ranking most devastating injury j mart aimar phil when you put it. That way really was one of the worst weekends. Actually a motorcross history. I might never come. I might not never come in to the races again. Actually okay angle blair wanna get the booth ralph vailable. I mean to me. It's troll train jamar than phil. Well it's hard to rank because obviously chain mart has the most in the line. He crashes out of the points lead which is terrible but we don't know the extent of his injury. We don't extent of aimar kmarts done j. martell social time to get healthy. Yeah j. march done too. Well in that case. I'm gonna put jamar. That's ridiculous because troll in seventh ridiculous. Come on seven faster. The first practice cut ready here here. You know he. He had air. He was turning the season around. He was moving forward and then disaster strikes on poorly prep track. Oh really you're you're truly unbelievable unattractive. Dangerous deaf you're fine sad sad Comes last for for all of us in every way like can we screenshot results to send a fill for you place. It's he's in a deep dark place right now. I bet dude. I saw phil before the race. Any he already said. I hate my bike. And i hate everything before the race and i don't even know what happened. Did you get knocked out. I turn with jeremy smith jeremy smith collarbone filling flying. Oh my god. Yeah so i will say this rotator cuff for something for shoulder rotator. Did you hear anymore. I rotate coming. Augusta's still was fear. Is the only response. I got back from. Fill all day to numerous text after the crash. Was i just got one texas. That and that was that was it. Nothing else no details. Oh sorry i will say this. J mart is the most devastating because he was literally the points leader and that is bad now. I know jay mark's narrative to you steve as he's writing job but he's not he's not fighting for a job no no he will be fine was depressing stupid. You go over to the troll train rig after the crash all no no. I heard they packed up early. Yes so i would over there to check on him. He was already to the hospital. And there's the team at eleven. Am packing up to ten. Because they have no other riders and he's presumably off to the summer. And i'm like that is like triple depressing. 'cause like a whole team is built around this one thing and then one crossroads. The i'm like. Hey that's phil phil house racing. A year his whole thing was based on comeback of the nationals. He has to. I turn crashes in the first two rounds and now who knows. It's like you build your whole going around one thing and it's just think of motos guys put in just being straight serious right the the road miles and the modes they put in. Yeah yeah for one thing. Run to second incident to ruin it. Jeremy martin will just be back next year. He'll be fine right. Yeah terrible devastating. All right anything else for lemay. Jt typical thunder valley blowing fuel and Yeah by cuts out and runs out of gas and all kinds of things. That happens every year to people at this race. Alright shot out to coach. Shock was good he had a flat was upfront there for a little bit Got a flat He's been underwhelming so far a little that we're whiten we'll get there when it's time on the softer tracks but these right there. You know if you look at who's beaten them all right. Oh says the guy who has to do interviews with twisted guy now do with every week right yeah. He went thirteen thirteen but well. I don't know it are we that level attack. Is it like you should be beating. Because i know i don't know. I spoke to unnamed person in the pits who was appalled by jt's accusations of ouija being bought and paid for in his show. So they all i know. Is this show as much better this week. 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Mx and save with those guys all right to fifty class. Let's get into that. A little bit on next maps broke. We're going to do those in a little bit. I didn't wanna put all the what all right to fifty class. Good job of justin cooper. He was fast all day. Both whole shots To to on the day he was a little pissed. We each on that he didn't win a moto and pulled it off. Yeah well it's kind of the weird thing about across where he gets essentially. He tries everything he can to be. Jeremy martin moto one gets the tries everything to be jet lawrence motives to get the and you're the winner right. We are seeing about motocross props to him for for not pretending. I remember legendarily when team. Belgium won the two thousand three motocross across nation. Steve you remember that race. Okay and there's stephan ever like in the press conference trying to pretend like this is great team belgium. One this is awesome. I'm so proud but everybody knows that's not what anybody cared about. He got beat by carmichael and that was really matter. He's trying to pretend that he's happy to team. Belgium won the event but he got rolled by rc. And that's all anyone cared about. So it is funny to watch those riders. Play that game so i applaud trooper for basically two guys. I can't be too stokes. Jt a little battle with coop and the jet was interesting. And they're both fine with it. I don't know if they're just saying that to the media but they both refined with it but as aggressive. It wasn't aggressive. I think as long as they keep it at that level or safer. It's fine but man both times guys get a crashed and they have. I don't wanna say bad blood but they've certainly gotten into a before there. Were dogs comments. You know doughnuts and all the podium antics that went on before so. This isn't the first time we've been down this path. But i think as long as they keep it respectful where they're not endangering each other. I think it makes a great series. I just hope. They can manage their tempers and emotions. In the moment. Jet and cooper jet and moseman jet and fortner to generational talent of starting rivalries really. Here we go. What do you think those moves. Yeah i was shocked to hear the reaction they were pumped on it is good aggressive fundraising but they both play that game I mean you try to ask them several times after the race and I guess i mean what was jets a reasoning. He was spinning and he got the got off the guessing with a high sun. He would've had to stay on the gas. Yes and cooper reifer right But it was good. Hey ringer for. I'm fine with it. I'm fine with all those moves. Jt's not a fan of that type of racing eight million times now. I'm good with what went on like. Don't go way above and beyond that. I just want to see anybody get hurt right. of course. yeah but yeah that's that to me is That i motor was great to Jet said he had nothing for them. we had a red flag The jet li joe was leading with a red flag. Right right j martin. Kmart was yesterday. Mark all right. That would have been a great moto to before the red flag over jerry robbins. Okay i think he is because he's been on social so but that would have been great but then jets said second moto the start of the first moto. He just had nothing for those guys. Rj was in third and he just kinda laid up. He said he that was it. And i i mean props a jet for admitting that right. Yeah yeah absolutely. Because you figure he's not short on confidence right and especially the opener so Yeah he didn't say. Changed the pike or anything. They just beat them. Immortal one so cooper. I jet lawrence second Jamar of course that i moto. He'll be out now. I would guess looks like he's going to get work done. So that kind of takes one guy out of the mix. So i dunno. Jt like maybe hundred can get it as mix he kinda road by himself both motos. He didn't have a lot of pressure either way. But right now. Cooper lawrence jet kuprin. The jet look like they're going to be the guys the guys this summer. Yeah i think hunter get better. You know. I think we're gonna get into tracks where his experience will show up right at a track. Like mount morris is much more euro style south that he has a lot of experience with and i still think you're gonna see jet have just a seventeen year old moments here and there he'll be good But i don't think he's just going to rattle off you know one two one-two-three one-two-three for twenty four motos so maybe that allows hundred to get in there and it. Maybe we have inclement weather which we know hundred zero well so i don't think this is over and i also don't think that justin cooper is just heads and shoulders better than than hunter. Either right. I think where hunter is just faster than him Just had a really good day but if you watch paula. Justin cooper wasn't dominant by any he was in the mix with a few guys has justin cooper. And maybe he has. I don't recall. Justin cooper ever having seventeenth to. I moto like the no. That's not what he does. He star city managers from there. Which i mean that's awesome. That's a great straight. But but i don't think cooper has jets raw speed no. I don't think so either. I think if justin cooper it's bad starts. He gets eighth in that model. You know that. That's just what he's gonna do which which hurts him in a series than it opens the door for other. Get back into it. So you know we my recap of this year in the fall. I'm gonna say so you give give troll train. Fifty points from from lakewood. Yeah okay. Yes hunter third joe schmo forth there so i went over to peyton mitch paid at the end of the day and i'm like hey man you want to do this interview. And he was like do i have to. I said well you do sponsor it it is the circuit pulp rates. And i said how about if we just talk about one guy and he goes okay and that one guy was not often for that he wanted to talk about. He was not in a great mood but yoshimoto road. Well joe road really. Joe said he made a mistake and he started second. The second modal. I don't quite know how you make that mistake. Jt pretty big mistake big mistake. So i think joe joe deserves credit like good job from him I don't really have a whole lot to say about him other than good job. He's performing. But i think foreigners conversation. That's really what we need to be talking about. Well what is it. I don't know. I don't know it's it's not good. I don't know how you get tired there and really what it comes down to. Is i believe when you are factory rider. You have all the resources you are very well paid you. Let's face it. He is the expectation for race wins and championships from kawasaki and from circuit in that class. That comes with a lot of accolades. He has mentioned. He's very well paid. But it also comes with pressure and expectation. And when you're not performing. I wanna i wanna ask why how are. How are you getting tired. I heard from go ahead. But i heard from somebody over there. That after the first moto he was like told mitch that it's really hard. I'm gonna have to pace myself. but how. How is that house mitch. I talked to another guy who's close to that. I mentioned that. And they're like you. Do not tell payton. You're pacing yourself when if you are that guy if how you not in shape right i didn't have writing coaches or trainers or any of that stuff and i. I made damn sure i was in shape. And if you're austin fourteen was asked somebody like man. I don't talk shape and there will be helped tomorrow. Be there showing up with bicycles and running shoes and nordic track. Do you think mitch males him some running shoes very likely but it's troubling right. Like how do you go up. And you're not in shape. I don't know man it's it's not good. you know. i thought about this last week a little bit. now it's a different level. A rider tyler. Medaglia i don't know if it was true or not but tyler is like dude. I never got tired. And his fastest lap was right at the end. And he's like. I never got tired of paula. I just he's he always different deal. But i'm just like yeah you you can control one thing. It's the one thing you can control. Just what you're saying absolutely true. The only thing that you can say that no matter what. I'm gonna make sure that this doesn't happen. I'm not going to get tired everything else. There's a lot of chance involved. I just don't have any. I don't have any sympathy florida. I really don't so you okay. And we hit a lot of time to get ready right like he's been writing for a while. Yeah right okay. So broke his collarbone at. What was it houston right. Yeah so it was january. I'm saying it's june thing. I'll make it worse i'm gonna make it worse here. Okay what i don't think anyone. The storyline twisted or suddenly told. Mac is leaving the team which was not expected either a month ago right so it automatically makes your head tilted like okay. Where's the future retali- they got a ac. And let's say foreigner came out and killed these i e routes. Let's say was four. Now the whole thing would look different. You'd be like ac. He's coming around and fortress coming always fun but when you suddenly have four. Who's supposed to be their future struggling. When their president is leaving the whole thing looks totally different. And i know comex situation and forced situation should be connected but they are. You're either good to go to the future. We can let tomohiko. It's no problem. Or what are we going to do. I didn't watch the broadcast yet. But did you guys focus on faulkner at any point in the second moto. Dude we really. We saw a little bit here and there. The key was that we have the march bank battle. Yeah at that time was when he was riding incredibly non-aggressive jt. He was exhausted was he. He's he was exhausted. So i don't have new mercy for it. I really don't man. It's as you said it's the only thing that you can make sure heroes is that you're going to be in shape. Our forth cold nichols next. Fancy so i really watched them. Do he was way back in both motos. He really didn't have a ton of speed but man he bikes good and he's in shape speaking of being and just guys off that is what if you're foreigner do that if you can't go fast then do the same laptop the whole time you'll end up at the front row or top five right. That's that is the perfect example fritsch having a bad day. But you're in shape. Good things will happen for you. So good job. Called nichols fifth overall march banks and other good witch for march banks six overall in one of the biggest Surprises of the year. I think one of the biggest you know. This guy is probably exceeding expectations ending a race outdoors to two years right and then the team never ridden outdoors and it's a privateer effort in a two class outdoors. He's heavy Offer motives have been great. I think it's one of the most pleasant surprises. The unexpected still told me he's one hundred ninety pounds. I don't know i don't know but he's he's taught he is kit right. But that's good job march banks for sure and you know how sweet that was to get foreigner right for god. Yeah i wonder if the folks at fly racing of course rental dot com. Oem and aftermarket parts over at motorsport dot com a really easy return policy free shipping over seventy nine bucks. I got a whole show segment on motorsport dot com as well. Thanks to those guys for coming on board. Thank you to kobe links. And of course rental and also armagh they got brand new hydrate. It's a hydration stuff but it's not quite as as much Sugar as the bullet stuff. 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All them I even got to drive. These same trails have moab utah. Expensive sounds expensive. It will was very expensive but my motto manually. Live wants something. What are you gonna do. Take the money did greg so on x maps is. I mean if it's summertime. it's time to do stuff outside so next maps dot com or on x. off road in the app store and sign up. It's a whole lot better than using google maps in your phone. Trust me. i probably wouldn't be on this call right now if i was using my phone. Because we'd probably be dead in the desert somewhere fair enough fair enough. Thanks you too on x end and all the sponsors as well dough. Jt was good really really strong. Ride for dylan schwartz. This was the kid we saw last summer when he or last couple nationals year. He was good he was he rode really well and then on top of that. Same old thing you know. We saw this loretta as we saw this last summer. He's in shape. He's in shape. If you don't have the speed to go with justin cooper just find the pace you can go and don't lose it. You'll probably be near the top ten but that's just what happens in class and yeah. It was nice to see that any cat moving forward the whole time which is cool right. Rj hampshire while same old rj. Really and i told them this. I don't think he really likes this kind of stuff for me. But i'm like dude you you know you just gotta quit with the mistakes. And and he made one mistake and the points second moto. I don't know if you guys saw his crash but yeah it was a good one right. It was a good one. I saw the bike in the legs. Flying through the air it was the infamous slash james spot and and some point moto. But we i mean that's his thing right. He's fast he just. Rj can't help make mistakes. I'm wondering here at rj. Even when he's right well he's writing the pace. Everybody brought he saw different but we all know that he looks like he's hanging out. You know you have. The jet is the latest of the guy. That doesn't look like he's going he's going willing to or those type of guys Rj's the opposite. So i'm not sure. Maybe he's comfortable riding that way and maybe he's not as out of control as he looks to him but the two things may be related you know when he gets thirty two moto. You're still like dude. He looked like he was on the edge. So then you're like well as it just inevitable right at twenty four motos. This is going to happen. I'm not sure only. He knows it looks that way or if he's really writing that way but this is our j. his whole career. Well it makes me think that that's actually the case right. Everybody's going ninety nine percent and he's going one hundred and one right right. Yeah i think. I think for him to be successful and make a lot of money and get podiums in his class. He has to take a lot of chances in unfortunately by some because he's fast and he was he had a good start going in that second modal good could have been. What's what's the alternative though. Slow down and get to do that. Yeah i'm saying it's like it's easy to say. Don't make mistakes but it's like well you can't just go slower right it just can't we realize it doesn't go very well. Exactly and you'll you'll cow people keep paying you money when you get on the box then crash out the next moto or you could be all time in the national starts. And you probably don't get any credit for right yup shocking. I didn't i didn't see that coming. You do not know this jt. I'd no idea twenty. Probably your i would take it as one of your claims the paint. Oh yeah i'm in. I mean we'll be on my tombstone. The i did not know this. We're going to post that this week. Our buddy clinton pulled a bunch of stats. The only problem is it's kind of incomplete but yeah it's the best we can do but we need. We need to try to get it actually locked down. That would take the ama's help. And god help us for that. But i make worse. John dowd leading career leading to fifty four fifty. No sorry. John kyle lewis. That was kinda surprising. Then was i think. We're rocco and then our buddy thomas fourth fourth-place most motos lined up for like thrashers caldo second. We're on tuesday class so according to the staff. So they're not officially official yet. We believe abe art has got into the time number one. Most motor started in small class to fifty one twenty right yup c. Thanks so what we think. Is there a chance that he does not extend that mark any further. You shut your mouth. is there a chance. no no chance. No chance you'll be back. Yeah yeah ok okay. From thing. it's good to have you tried to ruin sunday's our sunday here. You're an asshole. Why get for saying that dude. You show me the x ray. It's a pretty bad. Armory showed me the x. And i was up in the announcers tower right when i got the announcing a little bit here. And they're right just because rocket robin megawatt. Jt's guy want to break every now. And then and they thought they thought sexton was leading personal three laps wa thank god we jt ouija around just to just hammer any little lights man who cares. I do journaling after track with twenty thousand people there anyway. I got the x rays from a martin. And i don't know why i thought it looked like a tip and a fib and i and i said oh i must got a broken leg like wait. He walked off the track. You idiot like after he crash like the video shows him eating shit and then walking away right holding holding his art by the way i stood on the like so. If you're at lakewood. I apologize for his bad right. She said sexton was winning. Also all right moseman deserve better. Moseman deserve better. He was fast bike problems in both motos fuel most likely most likely the gas gas had a gas problem. Not fun fun fun and really disappointing. I mean that's a lot of points to leave on the table. But i wanna use boseman as the example to not kick these kids at the curb like look at how far he's come. He's by just they stuck with them. They stuck with them. They stuck with him. He is really good now. Really good on saying motta's and then you feel that moses results were better than some of those kids that we just talked about getting kicked to the curb. They were slightly better. Yes but i am sure it was right on the mendoza line. I'm sure it was like and they made the decision to stick with. And i think it could have easily gone the other way. Speaking of kids to swale seventh overall career-best. Julia starts road. Well you guys got. I didn't know this. Yeah yeah we got beef. Yeah i always settled it. We settled watch are Twisted tea best post show ever and swollen. Steve settled there be on camera. It's great but then at some point. I did say i still don't like the kids so i'm back on but it's good. It's always given a rider. Grabs a microphone and says i'm allowed to curse on his show and i'm like i can't believe it and he's like this guy over here this is bullshit. Dm me and i never responded. That's that's the start of the beef. It's about right kids these days. Will he thinks that the start of the beef. I'm like julie look. He hates all kids. He hates all amateur skits now. Just kids in general like all castro's as cheese true extra man All right so. John leaks well and moseman road really well and it sucks that he had problems. Pierce brown had a bite problem. Two one moto. yes he's gonna gaseous staff. You'll problems okay. Someone told me it wasn't the fuel issue or was bike broke but were doing exactly the same thing. Okay all right. So when they say the bike broke. It didn't really break finished. He just wasn't able to go they. They both pulled off at the same exact time in the same. Doing the same things they stop jumping the jumps at the same time right. If it wasn't the same problem i would show. Yeah monkey fourteenth Good job for murphy. First real privateer in the in the group. You know for monthly unless you consider schwarzer privateer. I don't quite know the the the gray line there. But if you don't count it schwartz then mumford first privateer fourteenth overall for easy road. Well again max. Bowlin was fat food food poisoning. So not good for max. I talked alone for a while. And i said are you just over there. Just scream just throwing things and he just. I think he thought i was serious. He's not no no not at all. I'm kidding i'm kidding. Get maximum at. Yeah this goes the interviews. That just doesn't fit right. I hate that had so much angry. Hey they told me. I don't know if you heard this from a lone wolf. So i guess. The bike went into limbo last week. Before before it started to blow up it went into limbo And lose a lot of power and then they went back and looked at when that happened and like until that started to happen. No one was catching him like when he got past the lead. The bike was already down like significantly power so they were really shocked. That's like wait a minute when the bike was running right maybe just one. I don't know yeah. Who knows what else time asher pool was. okay. I guess the first moto was okay. Ma styles spent. it's been rough for styles. It's been rough. I don't know if it was a bike. Issue hurt right. He said he wasn't ready. Heart percent ready to come in to paula. But now we had a week later so you know a week really solves it. No but you assume you would still be able to be. I mean this has been going on since like atlanta do yeah he literally podium that daytona and then i think it started the next week where he got hurt. He's been good we each he really has Has been good. He had a pretty cool story there on on instagram. I think is yeah rig broke and then there were stranded and the mom had to drive from california to rescue them again to the track You know there. There's so much talent right. And there's so many rise in the so deep blah blah blah. And you're like what is the pathway for certain guys and it only takes a few races like look pro. Circus lost three of their five guys. For example right. And then you start seeing a pathway for say master pools of the world. Who don't have arrived yet where you could be like. I could see how a fill-in could happen. And they get a shot or something like that. And i know masterful already had shot but i mean it's not inconceivable it gets another So these guys keep putting the results you could see him on a factory. And i don't even know how you describe breezes deal on the ktar amateur team. It's not factory. It's not actually. It's it's somewhere. In between. I see i can see mitchell harrison coming out. Mitch told me he would know this week on refilling guy or not. you know. there's still helpful hammer comes back. But i don't have an issues at paula and atlanta. How is a one week off going to help he's got. He's got to get settled. So agassi mitchell harrison jumping back in their jt. I hope so. I thought he wrote really. Well sure i mean it seems like a really nice that all right well. Four fifty was gonna dump on anymore. I've bro it was bad okay. We're good we're good. Have you ever seen a worse right from me. And i tell them no right. We've never seen it. That's the worst ever seen from outdoors. That's the worst outdoor i've ever seen from yeah indoor. He had the infamous fade to get a few few and supercross. What in god's name are you doing outdoor. I've never seen anything bad ride from unitil. He got tenth in a motel. Where i was like. What's happening here But not both motos dante. Mac is peddling to your house right now. Well hopefully you want ride with them with full. What's the max mode on your intense. Bicoastal boost those full booth through full. Boost your any more than full boosts. Yeah no if he was on no assist at all and i was on boost. I came up with that. All you faster than those things hall asam right. I know i want to see that we should set the we. Should you know. I approached john. One time when we were talking terms me. John and i said hey i don't wanna do story that racer x drive out to your house. It's only like eight hours away. Bring my yamaha. Bring my mountain bike and i want to go through a whole week. A work with you like obviously won't jump the jumps on your outdoor track. Because you're probably stupid. But i'll do the motos. I'll go bicycling. i'll do the weight room. And we'll just talk about how gnarly is and how much i'm dead. How much i die. He wasn't done with it though. That was great idea. Great story that would be a really expensive sang for most people to ask to do the old to do. I don't think he's like yeah. We need we need exposure. Yeah yeah but but you know whatever. I'm not shocked to hear. He wasn't wasn't really done with okay. All right well anything else not like tobacco one other thing Tiempo was winning the q. And it was pronounced elite elite auto or something k. k. Instead of kyw it was there. Were saying kay eleo. That's what they're saying instead of kiowa k. Eleo i'm done with jt. I just you know like why. Don't you grab bond those mike and start doing that job and then come to come to the tower. Grab a live mike god. You're just perfectionist. Here well i. When people's names are set right or when no we factory underwriter. The right one is winning. The moto for that to be bought onto mount rushmore. I didn't see one. i don't think there was. I don't actually see week. We throw the main like when the moto ends. There's like a three minute commercial before they the podiums ready. But i don't actually see that seat so last week. They played them. But i didn't see him so i don't know i don't think there was was actually. Okay with last week's mount rushmore. Actually i'm fine with an out. Rushmore like concepts. I just disagree with some of the riders picks. That's all we know we know. I mean i'm allowed to have an opinion. I would love to get on. Jt for this. This criticism betty of the announcing and the tv show all that. But i'm gonna. I'm gonna let it go because i feel like he is representing a demographic offense like i feel like you're being a man of the people. There are many people that feel the same way and they would love to air these grievances also and i feel like you speak for them. So i'm i'm gonna let go along with it but i'm okay. I don't wish ill will on these people. I'm just. I'm just airing out things that i was an things in my life that i can do a lot better and people tell me all the time that i can do a lot. Better most notably seeds so. Yeah when. I think there could be improvements. I'm gonna say those two. I just i just think you looked for perfection and we're not perfect human beings man. You know trying to get through life not asking for perfection. I'm really not but when you're telling the fans that chase sexton's winning for an entire and he's not it's can rawson. I don't think that's asking too much. I mean the m- the other man on the line or missed the start of a race at what are. They announced their city. Broken leg steady broke his right. So i mean these guys these guys who slack cuff up there all right. Well okay. that's it for Lakewood man again if you have a candle light one for told me things scout you. I i shock. I'm still in shock. I can't believe what i saw. You know so. God it was amazing. Lewis worst ortner 'til mack told max four didn't write outdoors last year. He's what is four. Four four five wins to his career outdoors about even not to really. I feel like yeah. Okay anyway charlotte south. Yeah that's right. We got a good that one took took ourselves out of that one too though. We were all right. we're more. Solid steady veteran forego got taken out by this wild young kamikaze overly aggressive train. He deserved it. All right boys Thanks for thanks. For calling in jason thomas and just get on the fly racing racer x lakewood view show. Thanks boys You're listening to the fly racing. steve. Beth is show. Don't forget to check out some of our past shows including motocross legends. Such as bad boy. Johnson i down in my handlers jock. I mean over to the side of the tendons were in weird places and the biggest disappointment danny store because that he never said sorry and i were france and we've never talked since brian lewis before the five hundred events. Dave and i fly to germany. Go down the street guard. There's a little shop out the back of the mall. Factory we get their cylinders. Take them back. And you know off we go and you know we're in nicosia cylinders factory park for us handful of years before anybody ever saw it in production day in mcgill was all you know. He did the big pancake thing and he's got the thing. He's completely laying on the gas tank trying to miss his tree. I mean he would have gotten even harder jumped. Farther is that tree has been. You know it had been there. I love the guy. I don't dislike. I think he's the greatest competitive sport ever had that absolutely one hundred percent mind. I firmly believe that statement. I said about these. Modern day guys in switzerland poland or belgium. I'll forty-five minutes on the same bike. You crazy they're not doing it if they think they're so much better. Nowadays than they were in states there cool so different bikes different times beasts from the east damon. Bradshaw got to the point. Where i didn't wanna leave home and once i got to the race i wasn't into it. I wasn't going to give one hundred percent. I'm not gonna take your money working-class hero definitely an emotional moment for me. Just thinking to myself. That's it you know. And it's amazing. The stuff that goes to your head in a short amount of time of the things that you know that was going to miss machine until you really open yours. And you wanna listen to what they're san like beating a dead and i know from personal experience anybody ever sidney down. Of course everybody did. Go circuits mitch. Pay as to make the money one as you can sign for money or two you can earn money. I'm a high believer in earning the money. I think they ride better when they earn the money. Time jeremy mcgrath mad so disappointed so frustrating said pull and i left every point count. I could kick myself to this day for not just riding around and pants been no problems. My and my ego got in the way. You know. Leo show johnny stuff that you didn't even wanna ride and you want to look at it all day. I mean i got a chance to test all that. 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Well, you just yeah. You look like a young brats tire faces frozen like a child. Giant lashes, and is and then these big hips, you're like the cutest Labatt's doll. Thanks. Shears were drinking podcasting drinking and podcasting. Janet is leaving me for a week. She's going to the Virgin Islands. You're leaving me to go to Coachella. Yeah. I know. But so since we're not going to be together next week to podcast 'cause we're both going to be out of town. We figured we would do another addition of drinking and podcasting because goes, well, we talk as much as we did on the last one this one will be a recap of all the fun stuff yet. Exactly. So we're seven summer's. They just a reminder to all of you who are listening go and comment on Nima, vans, Instagram and just say anything about your favorite chain restaurant. And how you saw him there last night like olive garden. Benny HANA outback steakhouse any of those Red Lobster. Yes. So I again, actually proud of myself for having quite a bit more of a voice than I did my to Vegas trips ago are just going to say this is the first sip of alcohol had since we left the. Chino? Yeah. I needed a little bit of a detox after that. Yeah. But really long weekend. And it was so loud everywhere. The first night my voice like I couldn't even speak under the night. I was turning to everyone and saying I have to go my voice is done. Yeah. This covers. They're like asking me. They're like what's Vanderbilt rules? So Jami vote your show. And I was like I'm like. On this. We have to go. All right. That makes sense. So let's go over the weekend Vegas was so much fun. Thanks for bringing me along. I'm so glad you came. We went to the poems and chaos spelled K K at the sweatshirt. Right now chaos and at the poems opening which was so much fun. They had a bunch of awesome music act. We saw Alicia Keys like front row, so close. She was amazed dot like kicked off the week. Get a piano should a lot of like acoustic stuff. Yeah. She's an amazing. I've never seen her live. But she killed it got so expected and she sews doing the no makeup thing. Which I think is I mean, she's gorgeous. Yeah. Anyone can pull it off at her. So we kicked it off. Was we went to green street was this restaurant in the palms that opened. Oh my God. They're brunch party. You guys is so ridiculous. Like, I felt like it was very much like a Miley Cyrus like funhouse, remind me of Lisa Frank like this. For all the waitresses all these different break colored either like body paint or like suits like one girl's walking around with a clear umbrella that had donuts dangling there the peers and grab with a care bear had on and woman covered in stickers. Like, yeah. Little stickers Oliver. They had someone. This is the best brunch idea ever. I know like freaked out when it happened, but they had someone with one of those head scratchy things and a massage that would just go around brunch. And give you heads scratches and a massage which was amazing. It was really fun. So like any brunch that we go to now? Like, I mean, if you don't have a person they're giving hut scratches off August like the giant doing cakes fishbowl drinks, everything was just like over the top and so much fun. And it's so cool because literally the pool party is connected to the restaurant. So it like opens up there's this statue. It's like a demon with it's head cut off every was supposed to the. The astound shoes asked and dick. Oh my God. It's it's like this hundred foot metal statue. But on the back as like this really nice man bun. Yeah. Not the kind of on the head man buns. And then on the front. I don't think I saw the front, but everyone was talking about the size of the statues. Yeah. I actually didn't look at that part. So I don't know. I don't remember being in the front of this down to check it out next. That was awesome. And yeah, the first one getting to keys and then Travis Scott, literally, we were so close we could have grabbed his ankle and Skillet. But all I mean, the energy they brought so good. And then the next day we had marshmallow Impala de Cardi B G eazy. Yeah. It's crazy. Okay. These clubs typically the bars close at two in the morning in LA Vegas hoses effort, pretty much not the Cardi B and Travis Scott the headliners for both nights that we were there. They. Didn't come on didn't start their show until they weren't scheduled until three in the morning. Yeah. I was a little dead by the time everybody came and not like it's not like we were like in Miami and on L A time towards like would only feels like midnight. Yeah. Oh, if felt like three AM holy after being out aging. Yeah. I was a little bit. I so excited to see them. But I was a little bit dead by it. Anyway. But yeah, they when they came on at three in the morning. I was like this was a little bit late, but they killed it. Yeah. The energy that they brought especially Travis Scott. He just like jumped up and down and runs around the stage. I don't know how he did it like if I'm out of breath after icing half of good as gold like, and it was awesome at chaos to how the center stage where they had all the acts would turn. So no matter where you were in the club. You got like a them facing you and performing towards you at some point, which I yeah. That was cool. It was like a rotating stage. Yes, she had that we do look at Queen LIZA. Oh my God. She looks gorgeous. So we're recording this on Tuesday night. You guys are listening to it a week from now to shames or from on watch. What happens live at least on watch live night. And she looks like a quaint. She's literally wearing a crowd. I mean that looks like a Queen without it. But that crown really does it, and I'm just gonna say this again, and we set it on our loss, drinking and pod. Casting. But hash tag team, Lisa. She can do. No wrong. Always always. Oh. And also this weekend in Vegas you stopped by again. Garden you guys if you are in Vegas you have to go within Caesar's palace. It's like really close like Gordon Ramsay pub and grill, and it is so gorgeous. It's like pump and Tom John had a baby and a casino. They have the goat cheese balls there. That's the most they have this wondering that has a purple circle hydrated pineapple on it. It's like insane. I didn't know audible I thought it was a flower always goes over the top. So it's incredible. You guys definitely have to check it out. So yeah, that's I'm trying to think. That's we also we mentioned we saw cheesy to he was awesome. He's so hot. Yeah. He's a he looks like James Steed. Yeah. He's tall to machine done Kelly. Oh, yeah. He showed up, dude. He's super tall to. I actually had no idea. What either one place all them? I was standing in between Sean, Mary man and machine gun Kelly, and I've never felt like such small human in my life. Yeah. You're already really spoiled. Yeah. They're like six seven. And shot the marshmallow gag. I loved them. They were fun group of people band. We're like we're like part of the mellow gang bandit. I'm going to still feel your phone one of their guys got me. I couldn't feel chinos phone at some point and make her Instagram bio mellow gang. So it's coming look for eventually. Hey, I'm a band-aid stand that, but I will say after our flight got delayed out of Vegas. Three days Vegas is a lot. And as with all the stuff and events in late night like stuff that goes on three days Vegas was a lot. And then as we were leaving. We gotta talk about your, oh, my God that pissed me off. So our flight's already delayed, and then I get a phone call. So as to leave on Monday at like, you know in the afternoon checkout hotel at eleven and at the airport instead are flake out late until evening time. So I guess we'll get another drink even though he didn't want to. At the pool bar, and then as we're walking back to get our bags from the bell desk. I get a phone call and they're like, hi Sheena. This is Eric from airlines. And I was like wait why we're like inner tunnel going from my poems plays to poems tower. And so I thought my service just cut out. But obviously now I know it's because they didn't know what airline was line. And they're like we hate to inform you that not only is your flight delayed. But it also we have to cancel your ticket because the flights overbooked and you bought a non refundable ticket. So yours is cancelled. And I was like I'm sorry. What? So like, what am I supposed to do? Can I get on the next flight? And they're like would you like to speak to a manager? And I was like, yeah. I would actually and then they're like, oh starry managers not available right now. But what we can do is offer you a lunch voucher for your next flight. And I'm just like why is going like this is she looks really confused and turns me and put it on speakerphone because she's like, this is the worst customer service. I've ever heard of I always fly delta southwest or JetBlue. I never. Fly american. So I'm like does American Airlines have the worst customer service on my bedside manner at or like that they said as I'm like, I need a fucking supervisor. Like, I'm getting pissed off. I'm like a mama way to the airport. I will deal with it when I get there. But I'd like to speak to a supervisor now. And it's like, hey, you got pranked the dot com or whatever it was then whoever did that fuck you. We were already so stressed about being stranded in Vegas for an extra couple hours. Yeah. Just after three days in Vegas. It is just wanted to come home to much we were just stuck there. And I just we ready come home. So whoever whoever knew we were delayed, and then called in pranked you how'd your phone number to call them prank. You to job you stressed her out? But I will say with as much flying and chat that we've been doing. I think one of the things getting us through has been our vitamin PO totally those cute little woods. Yeah. The care of one. Yes. So if you guys haven't heard of this it's called care of they have like these little packets that where have you seen these traps yet? They're like little to go packets kind of like like if you had like a crystal light packet. It's like one of those like, you don't even need water. So I have one that's called chill factor that I keep on me for stress, I haven't immunity one. And then I have my little packs of daily vitamins that I take along. With all the prenatal and everything I'm doing because I'm freezing my eggs again. But I literally think that with as much traveling as we've been doing. And I mean, if you listen to my show regularly, you know, that I've been traveling all over the world, and I have not gotten sick. Once I thought yesterday when we woke up in Vegas. I was going to be second. I woke up today, and it's totally fine with we've been moving around January. So those have been awesome. And they've been I mean, those are really good to travel. Yes. You don't have to bring big bottles or anything out with you. Yeah. You still have to take the quiz. They like ask you about your diet and health goals like lifestyle choices, and it's like a five minute quiz. So when I did that the ones that they told me we're best for me were be complex that supports healthy hair nails, vitamin D, which the boards bone health iron. But you're supposed to consult your doctor first, but I bruise really easily magnesium. It says alcohol can deplete your magnesium and we've been drawing. Milk. That's always supports liberal health chill factor. They told you guys, and then my immunity. So I keep those with me at all times. You got them delivered right to your door in these little easy to remember daily packs says like hi Sheena, then tells you like a cute little factor. Something fun that you should do with your life that day, and it's great also a portion of all of them go to the good plus foundation, which provides expectant mothers in need with valuable prenatal vitamins. And let me tell you someone going through the freezing eggs process. Prenatal vitamins are very important. So basically you guys for fifty percent off your first care of order. Just go to take care of dot com and enter the code shea fifty and again, that's take care of dot com. Enter coach safety for fifty percent off and never get sick. When you travel like me. So anyway, let's go back to what we do by. Let's talk about. The episode that was now last week. But you know, they always replay every episode like did you report? I don't I don't know. I don't want to talk about this show. Like, I'm not doing of roles recap just want to say, but I do wanna talk about everything I got on social media this past week regarding this photo, like let me ask for the main crushes drive saw comments that came in one talk about the knife. Everyone was like, what's what's up with the knife? Okay. So what you didn't see was which the photo if you if you didn't see it as Sheena in a black bathing suit standing like her aspects. Pop in the booty, and she has like knife strapped to her ankle in sunglasses in Mexico. Thompson of all took the photo Arianna. I were like doing like a photo shoot. Just like someone told us our butts looked good. So we're like doing a photo show. And then she went and jumped off the waterfall and then Sandoval like, we put this knife on your leg. Like, this will be a cool photo. And I was like all right. Can you take it of me? 'cause like all the girls are jumping off the waterfall. So he liked tells me what to do if guys tell me what's doing photo. Like, I would think, you know. This is like a good photo. I'm taking you show. Show Instagram boy. Yeah. And the always over packs for all the trips and how these excess Sary's like knives totally ankle knives. So he was like you look like like tomb raider. And I was like, oh, this is a hot photo. Like, I'm gonna send it to Adam. And then it's like, you know, no response and then hours go by and I'm like Lou like your good because like why wouldn't you divide it? Why did you not respond to this photo? So I knew he was hung over and Mike. He was he men when they're hungover sicker such babies. They really are. But if they have their phone enough out to like order posts mates and do anything else they can respond to a hot photo. They can at least double TAC. Yeah. Exactly. I'm like, okay. That's not me being vain or needy. It's like, yeah. Of course, they want you to tell me I look hot in this photo. Like, I took it specifically to send to you not to post lay literally just to Sunday. Oh and didn't get a response. Like, okay. I mean, let's if you are. Guy. And you got that photo. I mean, what would you respond damn the booty though? Something like that. Or maybe more like fire emoji or tongue emoji or really anything. Freaky? Basically any emoji. Any response? Really double tap the photo give it a heart. Any of that would be normal? Guys response outta Mike us was I dunno. I was butthurt that he wasn't on the trip with us. He was hung over or he was just being a baby. But I'm like, dude. And then like he goes in like telled Lisa energy. Just like I just felt dumb told him that you know, she would've responded she gave him a little. Yeah. I mean who doesn't respond to that? So let me just say I send it to other people on the response. I won't I love. I don't if it was Danny Pellegrino or someone else that posted the picture of Lisa's face when she saw the picture for the first time in her. I love that today. Pellagra? He's a basic. Yes. But yeah, so it wasn't being vain. It was just like I mean, I would think any girl who sends a photo to a guy would expect like somewhat of a response. So whatever I really do feel like I'm talking through. She just got her filler. Okay. So I'm going to New York soon. I'm going to be on watch. What happens live with Carl from summer house? We were talking about here last week with page. I love page. Shoutout. She is amazing, dude. I feel like I have so much in common. She's like a younger version of me. She's so cute. And I love her outfits if you don't like already follow her go to her Instagram, she post outfits of the day, and like all these styles for less. Yeah. Zara and other places forever. Tourney wide out Faso's so cute, except I'm kinda mad because she posted it outfit right after she was on the podcast low. Yeah. She posted an outfit, and I was like that is so cute. Where's a from? And she's like, I got it as our. But like two years ago, you can't buy it don't posted outfit and tag it. If I can't go buy it right about that. But she's awesome. Yeah. You're going to be watched with her cast mate Carl. Yes, who there have been a lot of rumors about. On and off which we've covered a million times involved boring, but you guys are friends, and it'll be a really good watching up. And I think it'll be fun. I like now that like I actually watched the show I think it'll be fun because they know what's going on. And I'm like excited for the next episode. I'm thick this season of summer houses their best yet. I it's my first season. I've watched like, I agree. But I feel like just cast wise like I've seen ups odes here, and there I just never religiously watched it, I feel like this is the best cost that they've all right? Absolutely. I feel like it's actually in Vanderbilt pros like how after when did law James come on three James was talked about at the season two reunion. And then was on it season. Three lola. Am Brittany came on season. Okay. I feel like they're at the point where they're like a season for Vander pump. Roles wreck where the they finally got like the right group of people and dynamic going on. Yeah. The extra people came in some other people like when you guys had fail and some of those other people really fit in kind of dropped out Herman. Yeah. Remember in Jacksonville Cup with her and pizza shell? You're thirty. He's like you're going to law school. I'm not going to be around for that. Hey, he knew he was honest. So only about was. Oh my God. Morales is really like fallen into their own. And I love page on the show. I feel like she's just like she's really good one liners like. Yeah. Curls. Like, you look up with other people. She's like, I know I love. Love that. But I think they've come into their own. Yeah. And I do feel like with knowing that there's of anti-trump crossover this season assuming both shows come back for season four and eight. I think there'll be more crossovers, I think so and I think some of them. Well, no, never mind all Carla friends in real life. And you know, what I think is interesting as watching happens live is that everybody like all these rumors that happened about did they hook up to they just make out was to. They have like what it meet like what was it. Yeah. You guys have never really spoken on it. Especially sitting next to each other. It's been Kristen it's been what's his face also summer house, even and didn't maybe two. Yeah. I'm Kyle was there in Amanda was in the audience. He got asked about it. But everybody else has spoken on it. You guys have never set the record straight sitting next to each other on watch watch. What happens live? Yeah. That'll be interesting. Yeah. We also just had after our break before pages on we had Ed my let at the podcast. Oh, yeah. You still have to read his book. He was amazing. I actually just love listening to you guys talk. He was so inspiring. And it's such an easy read. Look it. Exactly. And it's big font. So it's like, it's really small. It's really good hush max out your life. Yeah. At rilot was awesome. Shit guys. Oh, man. We we're asking for that. That's what happens when you're drinking and podcasting. Thankfully, the mysterious notion. Equipment guys. This is what you say. The studio, thankfully, the mysterious voices to save the day. Thank you are anonymous male. What? Yeah. You'll find out who is doing. He'll be on the podcast. Show. You were just in Hollywood medium. Oh, my God to talk about that. Because there there's so much that people didn't see the the reading was how long was it. It was about Hugh and a half hours. That's like and what got it gets edited down to like fifteen minute twenty minutes. Right. Yeah. So there's a whole what would it be? I don't even think it was fifteen minutes. So it was so crazy. So my grandma came through in the beginning. But then it skips straight to the end. So in between what you guys didn't see was three of my uncles came through. It was the craziest thing like there were things that he told me that I didn't even know like that. When one of my uncles died in a car accident. My other uncle put his championship baseball in his casket at the funeral like things that like nobody could possibly know. And like the thing with like, my grandma there were these like comics called Maxine knows clearly like the image. He was seen in his head. But I'm like, no one would. Oh that my grandma like loved that comic. Even if you knew her name was Maxine, you wouldn't know that reference. I love seeing your mom's reaction to that. Like when she was behind the scenes in watching you guys from the. Yeah. Her seeing her reaction her like gas. It was like so Sweden. We watched the episode together with your mom and a bunch of people, Chris Britney and all bunch of friends over here. And just seeing your mom's reaction. Everything was really really awesome. I know it was so awesome to watch that back. It was literally one of the best experiences of my entire life. And then like my other came through who was killed in two thousand six and it was so not because the things that he told us about that was like, it wasn't a robbery, and like we knew that he had all of this stuff on him when he was found, and like he said that the person who did it had like immediate regret right after and like it was like a case of mistaken identity, and like they they didn't mean for it to happen. And it was an accident and like the person's like living with this guilt and. Like all of these things that he told us that we're just like you can't Google shit. First of all like, there's just no way people would know the things that he knew. And then like when I asked about like having kids, and he said, he's Tom me having kids in like an unconventional way like in vitro, freezing, your eggs, right? And I told him I was like I've been thinking for a couple years about freezing my ex like you you need to do that. And so that was like one of the reasons that pushed me to get it done so quickly and just even other things he told me about my career, and like how that like have already come true. It's just like it was such a surreal experience and like shout out to Tyler Henry who's literally like the most talented individual like gifted of excited. I mean, when you know, you see this stuff on TV all the time. You wonder like is it real today really script it do? You know, do the. The talent they have on it secretly, tell them like, you know, ask about this. So that it looks good. So I was excited actually here. Like, your honest behind the scenes perspective of like what really happened during the entire reading. And how long it was in aftering? There was like three hours everything that came through for you. And how I mean, you really believe that he actually is a medium and oh one hundred percent. I usually is all real because as a viewer you always wonder like how real is this? How is it added produce? But it sounds like it was a really like surreal experience. Yeah. And then it was like crazy because I mean, we found that in September. And it was like right after like, we kind of like robbed filming. So obviously, it's now obvious who I was asking about and not. But just the like perspective out on the situation and the advice, he gave me a number. He was like, oh, it's like this six month period. And I didn't remember. For him saying that until I watched it back, and I'm Mike. That's so crazy because it was like a six month like up and down. It's complicated. Visit fat it's not it's what and like it was just been so convoluted. But it was like he predicted all of this shit. Crazy. It's insane. Really crazy. Like, I'm trying to think of what else? I I literally I've lost so many family members like everyone was like pushing get through like my other came through. But I couldn't remember exactly how he like how he made the connection. My mom remembers. But it was just like so many people coming through hoarding all of it. Or I was wondering if they would let you I mean most psychic readings aren't on camera at though, it's like, you know, you just either take notes or you have that memory and that day, it was just like it was so crazy that I was like I want to take notes about this. But when it was actually happening. I completely. I forgot my mom completely forgot. And so we didn't. But the last time when we we went to a psychic party like two years ago. It was right before it was December two thousand seventeen because it was right before I moved to Vegas, and she said that she saw I had a big move coming up. And no one even knew that had a job offer in Vegas yet. I remember that. And that one though, right? So we did a big group reading at the party, and then everyone sort of split off with her and did a couple individual readings at that individual reading. I asked her if I could record on a voice note on my phone, my individual reading, I saw I still have it. Oh, I did that too. Yeah. So I feel like for the I mean, I understand why Tyler Tyler Henry doesn't allow you know, maybe that. But it's nice to have those recordings. If you ever do get to go, see psych. Yeah. But it was I mean that one lady to the things that she said about like my relationship that had just ended at the time. It was so spot. Like shocked your mom about like, oh, I knew even feeling like this way. Healthwise make these small little changes dietary changes like you need to cut corn out of your diet. Like hop quiet popcorn every night. How like would you know that? Right. Yeah. It was like a that's it's easy. Yeah. So I mean, if you guys believe in knots off, I mean, I definitely do. I've had numerous experiences where you just can't know those things and you can't make that up. Like, yeah. There's just too much people. Don't know. No. It was selling audible. That's what's going on lately. What you're okay, you're going to tell this weekend. Yes. So by the time goes are listening. I will be recovering. But. Yeah. I'm excited. Sciarrone Agron day. That's parties. What outfits are you most looking forward to I lot? So my sister is my silence for Coachella. Just like you're the coolest person, I know like Giresse. So what she got me a really cute outfit for the neon carnival and Machino party that night. It's like these like athletes pants, but with the body suit under and I'm gonna have fish nuts. But it's like they're like that like reflective material. They're like silver. My god. My Josh draft right now. Yeah, you'll stay. She does bring atlas chaps now, they're not Chicago their pants. They're like windbreaker pants, but they like have holes in them. So you can see the body and the tights under asked us chaps. It's not gonna be a thong under them. Well, that's exciting. And you just you just did a sweet or something today. Right for some outfits. Also, right. White FOX omega gotten so many cute outfits from them recently. And so many hubay foods like and they're from Australia. Yes. When we were out there, and I was like wearing run of the bathing, suits. I looked at the tag. It was made it Australia that sitting in one of the many bags that on your bed. It's super cute. Yeah. So it's been a fun week. We have a lot more fun things. Coming up that. We'll keep you guys posted on live in New York coming up. Yeah. And then stage coach, and then my birthday what I wanna do for my birthday this year is I wanna get you know, like those booze cruises that go by like right here in the marina every night. They have like this one where it's like all it up. They play music heart a one like take like a sunset cruise with all of us, and like have like a taco bar and my band would be ideal. But I'm not trying to a house in the marina. Yes. Let's talk about your yet. I just bought a house. I'm not trying to draw. Up, you know, thousands of dollars on a birthday party. But I think that would be fun. One hundred percent would be fun. We could always meet here can make the long drive out to marina. And yet I love seeing those votes. Go by like a dance party on top and bar on the bottom. Yeah. That's me. Still fun. Yeah. We've lock me up the next month. It's been a busy month. I know time's flying by. It's it's fun though. It's been fun. We've been saying healthy with our vitamins shout out to care of you guys. Take that quiz, and yeah, we will be back actually next week with Carl. I'm excited for that. Will. Well, no will probably be more like an at home drinking podcast. We'll be doing that one from New York. So the Mike into go south instead of from the studios at podcast one. Yeah. That will probably be from the hotel. I was gonna say what? We shouldn't. Yeah. All right, y'all. Well, thanks for listening to drinking and podcasting with Shinhan, Janet. And if you guys have any questions or topics you want to hear us talk about on our drinking, and podcasting episodes, Email me she actually dot com because they don't always check my DM's because they are filled with weirdos. So Email is. Oh, this potentially. Yeah. Whatever harmful. Don't send dick pics DM's people. It's rude. No. And a lot of people odds on into live about fuck, boys. They're fun to hook up with you can hang. 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Zebras, Unhappy Marriages and..

"Hello everyone welcome to the new episode of his before. You jump onto listening to this episode take-up wreck it's might get your regular. Does of life changing entropy on everyday. Hello guys looking at an episode of everyday talkies back with another episode of guns jumps and steve. Today will be discussing chapter nine. It's called zampa unhappy marriages and the anna cutting the up and leave all of this in principle. The join you to explain all of this back. I was life away. Let him apart past governor to be to cataclysm. it's okay like splitting them with his because all of them but they need to know the inter relate to you. They need to know what's going on your life. Tell them okay you though. Only people relate to me right now out of the people who are Stuck at home in the dynamic growing nothing so now if that any people out there that you can relate to suck is much fine since wisconsin. This is in that mode. Let's move on swiftly. Do our greatest ongoing series of venice. Johnson steed chapter nine so little. Let's get so the people joining us go. Listen to mine episode done please. I want more listen skull and more checks but if you haven't been lazy chat with gap most of it it's what and so the book has gone zones and data diamond. That's about evolution of humans. Thirty thousand dollars to now. We started with the question which was why did europeans get all the good stuff by the devil to foster and people in new guinea all restrain the owning these legions and yanni was on the beach and then the question on these lanes and basically that forms the best person for the entire cities that we have and added rice to answer that in multiple paths so impact wanted to basically learn about how humans evolved from a million years ago and even before that hobby evolved from monkeys made it from africa to other regions europe. Australia america on the avi spread their timeline. And all of that so being discussed that and then the next white would it quite enough ending one of my favorite chapters maybe discoursed not just experiments of history multimodal collision in australian region. Held almost julia that we had a collision aecom. Arcot bed spaniards enact the bed of indigence. And how did that shape. And i think that gave the piece of for us to understand that why was no eurasian region would developed and the rest of the world and not give us examples and then restocked with i series lead meets leads. How eco-tourism puerto production as nipple new human evolution higher so we understand my farmers necessity and why didn't it is more preferable for food bombing than the other how crops grew and degrade domesticate crops or. Did cop domesticate us. So these are the top does are the things that we learn and i think the recent and the most heavily reveling that i got to know was all the food that we eat gross or grew in. Somebody's scoop. i'm gonna bring this act of the zone yes People people need to know this at most important fact that all your famous french gastronomy and all this fancy food that you eat it all traces back at such we do fundamental piece of shit. And i think in the last chapter be onto the simba that who's ford. Was it develop plants. Was it the human themselves when the stupid enough to understand or was it the plants or was in environment and some of what that is nuances there. More ending towards how the environment and how the geographic conditions were there. I think it ties into the separate as well because of the separate. I understand the importance of domestication of animals. So push onto you. So the staff has veered name vice tack. Let's start with the anna karenina incident. I saw an is a mock limit by On strike and in that book. I haven't read the books. I can't say anything about it. But the idea. Behind anna karenina. Principle is stacked for something to happen the right way a lot of different things have to come together perfectly and for something to go around only wanting has to go. I think while leading the biggest example that game mine. Who has the early enough. I was watching an interview with Have you been off. this mainland. Janney says watching an interview of him and he was talking a movie he had produced the basic. It's very good. Watch it but what he basically said off the mulia making expedience because he was writing endurance instead of just acting in it he said that who make a movie like so many things have go right. And if only wanting goes on. That movie feels completely so the an-an-and uh principle is very much seems and he uttered as applied to answer the question of why only certain very few species of animals were domesticated thousands and thousands of years. We'd certainly dough an uh-huh potty gum amount of wild moments that we have so what. Jared diamond argues that there was only a select few species. Red thinks that came together in such a read that all the factors in place for domestication of animals happen if only one ping was different. If only one thing feel then you wouldn't domesticate them as you mentioned you. Use this word. The michigan naughton. It's important duty of us. I think i taught that and eamon who is near vicinity was domesticated for some reason and is weird logic that so don't dog scott's sheep everyone is supposed to predict but that is not exactly the case. I mean those specific examples out of this look specifically record on suspicion. It is they find something like this. It is defined as an mood seductively bred in captivity and then by modified from his finances but us humans. You control the animals breeding and forcibly so for example. If you're thinking elephants elephants especially in india are still used by people who are in cargo transport tourism and whatever basically used by humans in their daily lives as even pets. You could save novi. But they're not necessarily domesticated animals because Those elephants have not breaded. Captor was elephants are usually art in the wild and so that is very different process from domestication in its and then even lick would say get to know more about the dogs and cats aspect as well because you're history behind that so even they are not exactly keppler domestic debt team initially and then this bingaman captivity and you have these read them and then the adult be by them because people have the word adoption murdoch but my separate antics aside but you're basically was skull sheep. Good begin horse now once. Cincinnati has that is important thing to understand the different small animals in the beginning. Because you have small. Animals crowded us food clothing warmed and all of that but this big animals became the reason vitamins group or environment. I would say that once. Beginning. let's give me. It was easier for them to transport material tomcats together. It was easier too far because you know putting the sleds and all of that they became war machines harsh as being one of the good examples. So i think the domestic has no big animals was the key in human evolution. I think and that is what the author focuses on majorly in this chapter. This big animals was being affording of only four hundred species that undomesticated before for twentieth century recall the ancient for the laser beams. An office fourteen. There was a major nine which became important livestock for people in limited area. So you had. The different types of camels alpacas donkeys and all of them and then came only five species which begin to me too five which are cow. Sheep goats good horse which was widespread and across the world. Obviously you have the oxford. They are in some areas of the llamas again in north america million rockin and andy's them so in those areas but they're not like hallway redwood over scholarship. She got big horses available. Every one jared diamond seeks are sixty dollars that What were the factors that led to the domestication of these animals. Orderly and why these animals were domesticated in places that they will buy the even the biggest thing he keeps repeating in this shock. That is that if you think that it was something to do with the people that led to the domestication of these animals. Then it's all because Most of these like most of these animals that were michigan belong to eurasia and australians are not americans and all these people had never seen animals like a hardest audit of big for example on what history history as that as soon as these animals introduced to these people it did not take them very long to domesticate them to get used to them or to use them to that but example not native americans of and horses introduce them. It took them like very little time to start using them for that For basically reading Whatever they fought traveling and don sporting goods and they also started using sheep as livestock and on. He says that you you have to look at the animals. Themselves are busy that y though when domestic introvert investigator again the team of every chapter starts with a question and he don't listen which he comes to his dart. Why was it your asia and eurasia deported to understand that you're not europe but people who are not of it most of you know. I think all of europe and it is all of asia. And shockingly somebody not america's that whole areas region immense cow. This idiot hard. Majority the most of the animals found your domestic union and convinced which for you we must. I think the quantum discussing all the chapters and it will be nice but us recap that and understand his so humans seven billion years ago in africa right. You could barely call. They were very very different from what the migrated puts and went into mcdade indigent new european and human stacked what the typical the crew matins. And you could say that there were more than you be. And that is where you'd asia and obviously that area had the most amount of tickets and finding wounds because you that huge i was a million a millennial of head start and all the other areas was the first modern humans have an update so they could easily domesticated animals. Were living and ask whiskered item. But he mentioned. I think in the second episode that these people living alongside animals so animals with this new creature and you went to intimidate them so there was amicable relationship lake vitamins. Jim norway extinct because they knew that humans who had hunting them yelled animals. Modem used to them animas knew what they injure humans. And that is there is. There was a good balance or damascus. Moods act violent means windy but as humans on your i mentioned modern humans and by martin hadn't been essentially but many years ago the stock moving into indonesian areas and then travelling south to australia. Then another eleven thousand or two thousand years ago moving from the siberian region to the north america south america. And whenever dig into this new place they had left enough to hunt animals and make an extinct. So shockingly there are no animals except that it kangaroo but he was just stadium and that ed can go for reasons would devastate their own. Ain't your reasons country to that. What were the factors which led to domestication. But this is important but again that he in australia in most of these small islands around australia. And then you have not south america the domestication of animals would almost existent and that's was got any mentioned. It was it was the x. Early more than humans made them extinct. And when's the these bartenders. Domesticated animals visit quickey adopted the saints. That it's like. The people who lived in north america and australia and new guinea did not try to domesticate animals that they had he gives the example of the these lords cassowaries were like big chickens that That up new guineans us to keep a the dem as faithful lists like who basically but these animals was so dangerous that on occasion. These animals were End up symbolic villages. It's not like they tried to do it. Suspect with a certain exit factor just did not happen and It gives another example of in north america. People where Brian put fame the grizzly bear. But even they knew that they had to enter the recently better by the time it was a year old. It gets bigger that just to say well. I just want him much because the bears. What would i again. Was you answered. One of them obviously had started. And what is your. It's so you the because landmass so you have all kinds of climate's there and midnight. You have numerous kinds of animals and cigar going on so out of the seventy two candidates that you'd is you heard the domestic eighty percent of them and this number falls zero percent in africa or australia and four percent in america talking because and for these regions that because they're the head start at because of the condition but one question that estimated our district it even to my mind gone human started noticing from africa and everyone goes to africa for my life. Why were they lagging behind. The zito personnel. Which is talking. Macau isn't even. I think one of these. I suspected certain yours. Is that the fuss mortar. Humans really stock are developing the media region and not the african infuriated at that point and then no and also another point of bit of last year and say food. Production started in the cutting and they run other hotspots do but it was never really applicable production or took a whole so unless you had a stable ideal would production. I don't think you really went out of your way through domesticate anatomy vizo if genetically farming. You don't really need an animal. As such unlike other than for the fact that like other dog who was in hiding and stuff. I get that original these instruments in that the usual though domestication in europe smith quickly amongst the non illusion religious people. And obviously you mentioned already ice brennan. Even today we have failed. Domesticated animals that was made domesticated thousands of years ago and it is similar to plants which is shocking that we have this amazing technology refute even the suppressor that give one example. I do remember that one. Maybe the marissa's going to a of this particular kind of animal like people try tame or domesticated jeep does so Back in mobile. India kings and ambrosius. Yusup keep she does with them not him cheetah's that they would use for hunting and stuff but they were not really domesticated. I know jared diamond mentioned that the biggest reason for this Domestication not happening is the fact that chief don't really like to made rents when somebody's watching them. I guess the biggest point is what he mentioned. Is that desert elaborate courtship ritual that comes with or cheetahs and no one good made and so What ends up happening is when new people cheat nine captivity data. Reluctant boo of reproduce. Because there's they don't get to their meeting. The between Bits has kind of hampered domestication of these animals that was just one of the experiments that was like one reason. You would see that why unacademic did not plan. Things just fell apart because of just this wanting and chitose normally investigate provokes this like that he gives us make all of these reasons. Different reasons That were important. Each in its own way And they had to come together with all the other reasons for an animal to be domesticated. Neil german says that in order for anonymity domestic abuse team advanced adding that the first step. And if you won't dame it that you can't domesticate an you know. Interview tried with eagles in asians or duty eagles as mentioned morton indians and even egyptians started which he does and then you had giraffes surprisingly and elephants. Not and if it's today also art artem obviously but again we cannot domesticate them because the multiple reasons they can't for nicot in it but we can't breed them in captivity then. He comes to the point where he mentions that particular time where this animal isn't happened. It coincides with our by minute of eleven thousand years ago. I don't it eight hundred. Two hundred is even. Most of the medication was done. But most of the animals and surprisingly there were few which have domesticated recently liquor. Rabbits are not known what to michigan in the middle ages average seamlessly easiest onto bonus ticket after window. What is oh what a wild robert splendor. It's not that this fall into the us. We started out of the blue. We started with the carter bats as with plants and then we domesticated denver dame denver to mexico them and then they were this week so almost annually cousy the become smaller whereas some of the animals can't be good like guinea pigs and he mentioned a nice way that initially it is vital. Animals had big brains putting animals because they had to they had. They had to hunt prey survive. But once they were lizzy and then you that humans were reading them. They were feeding them. Be the monitor and there is something to be learned from that we are humans beck levin community cages. Made us you know and be worldly mundane work and we little mundane things never legally not out no legacy nixon. There is no idiots instant for most of the i definitely was the last time we went and farmed and cornforth. Her fought for own food. Exactly i would die. Ultimate how mice and rats domestic it in the twentieth sensiti and only because for laboratory research that sickening expert and then he mentioned the the big mammal domestic is ended. I don't four thousand. Five hundred years would like because he says by that. All the amendments that put widow domesticated world. And after that i don't know of any new mammals have appeared. So you know. But the next season there you know how domestication spread and it's not like the eurasian raise. Your was the only portion but that sutter multiple independent business would happen. And obviously you have different varieties so you can see high different variety. You have varieties of even camels camera with the most common months because we see there's an indian version that is european and then i think most of these different animals which considered it independently similarly. I think the biggest example. It relieves quotes voice was domesticated in independent so many areas and britain so many areas which ultimately led to so many varieties of dogs. I mean Tangled but also he mentioned that In certain places like china odd. Let him see my turn on other place. because of scarcity of for big not mexico as mexicans because of a big lack of big loading victory marine animals The all-star domesticated Where actress non-domestic domestic after disappointing. Were like keeping his but also for food so Yeah what we keep hearing about this whole thing. Okay eleanor's ionized eating dogs and this and that so that actually the it has historical roots in like in scarcity. Guess make sense and this brings me to this next next very mentions that what were the reasons which led to the failure of domestic insulate and so he made just six seasons and all of them have been line for us to domesticate a certain animal. And this is this like the first one was died the mats behind it would be one to who was going to be fascinating. Yes so it's I think we learned this in school lesbians obesity. If you want you need a car me would of what you have to do. Is you have to make sure there. If you want to read say a hundred on carnival you're gonna make sure that you see it like a ten thousand pounds of food over its lifetime implicated to that one thousand phone A week which does not make it very feasible for example. If i won't believe tiger. I have to make sure that it eats Then toews and bones of meat would its lifetime who get to decide one hundred bone sites and then like i'm left with the question. Why why don't i just either. Ten thousand on the media down feeding ordered to the mix. And i think it goes. This can rick in order to another level that a cow. it's let's say and thousands of cups and that's important and you ten thousand gold coast to feed thousand boat beggar so you have fun. Lack bounce of corn crops equate district grove one proper tiger whereas it can be done in one hundred by just getting ahead people. That is what you were there. I think the biggest season vite no mammalian carnivores evidence skit for and the nearest thing is again as i mentioned was the dog But even dogs are omnivores. Or and Yeah he makes. He takes a sleigh dabid dollars. The dolphins are dead. Also carl lewis. Because he says that if you read the label of your dope when you realize that it's not actually like listened that nominee who actually heard that they'd always me. I don't think a lot of people think that. I don't know who you been hanging out with jared. I won miss people here. Don't secondes died but that was the reason to be worth guarding worst. And that was the second one was growth rate obviously wonder domesticated animals which gruber foster. It's the same reason right or he mentioned that batteries lake hawks and all that it takes a hundred years too so dislike that you wouldn't really want to domesticate. A of an infant oil like are good. Because i don't look ten years for them to reach maturity and as farmer. You're not gonna invest daniels and good. Especially if they don't if the if then if they're not gonna based like wine afterwards and says is the problems of captive breeding now. Obviously it's easier to integrate sheep cows and all of them and the apple doing that for hundreds and thousands of years Obviously that examples they cheat which puskas so beautiful explained but such nice words that how the only way to Read them in kept would end the biggest problem that we see right now is says like mine. Does he's leading in captivity. Yeah that's why that's all So few of them. Yeah that has that has a big thing behind really investigate animals. You get them to bleed many warrant them to read. I think in this book. But i don't. I'm not sure what impetus point. But immense is that how scientists not to increase the population of certain animals. They are genetically packing all species of animal and making them selectively breed with tons of maximum of spring. The advice and i think now moving onto the foot went. And i think this is the most fun point would still a nasty dispose immense that. It's naturally you cannot domesticate any mammal species which is sufficiently large enough capable of killing and is of. Obviously i was at that. You've been but did not that. I mean yet caused ornery under league flexi but exactly baffin buffalo which is like yes the size of Soya because cows had such a nice disposition and they were As we scientifically no though in cognition of course They would have been for a lettuce. Domesticate them now. This also came to for some sip. Zebras because i think he made a point earlier in chapter very mentioned that horse so quickly as he does not possess colorful or black and white horses. So why was it not possible for the as you mentioned that the opposite interest when they grow order similar debates and there were at. I like this. Zebras had unpleasant habit of biting a person and not letting go did thereby enjoy more endure. Forgotten how to speak thereby enjoyed even more americans who keepers each year than bootlegger's says they noodles or told me and also he mentions hippos Who they look cute but they kill more people than say sharks in new york was looked a very nice variety of cute. It's cute come on. I think god audience would me on this fine fight and this was under the other end of the spectrum. Which is the institute panic animals. That is fairly since. I haven't been a receiver. I want somebody who knows. All they need is of offer you a fight enough board games in books and enough money to publish books you'll be jackie's jeopardize was wanted okay. So yeah he gave examples of as radius. They are so dumb numbers it on. Would you should not use like this. Is the have man if you cap. Lock them in a cage. The bandits and die because they can't state it because they won't get out same as me like after this dynamic. I have realized cabin fever is know about me so yeah ben the on certain items dentsu binding you. Just keep them in a cage. You know the title. That's just how life works. I guess Maybe who knows these animals sadder. I guess anarchists by their philosophy. Maybe i don't have a or something Speaking of oops don't ask vision that he comes to us a social structure so sort anonymous. That would that way. Don't escape so easily. Was the those animals or lived on a social structure where you had an alpha or dominant of gadston and everybody else kinda followed him and be used to living in hurt which made it easier to domesticate them and keep them in captivity in the them accordingly but some animals because they have such a haphazard which will sector social structure and becomes harder to domesticate them because they have They don't really like to follow anybody's are those. They don't like to live a bit more of that kind and You know that just a little bit smarter than Sheep i guess. Thank you for calling smarter than shut as was mentioned that most of these animals had hierarchical structure and humans. Just you know. I think once kept them so they begin the leaders and everybody to all of them that was easier to domesticate them and he gives one nice example that one saudi degree will animal species which cannot be ordered was the benefit cats so every category visited. Yeah i don't think they've still like entirely domesticated cats. I think it's just that cats are being the longing where their music you basically made us their sleeves and when when they have had enough when me You know. I ain't us us listening. Just guided office and lowered by johnson. Holy pretty much pretty much exactly but any the point is jeter. Diamond has scientifically established that the whole of human evolution is justice social experiment and my cats. See how much How how blue lesson me can be. There is some. I know you're choking up to two. Because if he plans right. They adapted themselves so that they could procreate and the good but was that you know viva just under the animals for them and we had them do that and so they made the seats. You know bitter demidov fruits writer and easier to eat so we could help them and familiar with animals also. I think there are reasons why these annuals did some of the animals domesticated but the ones that they did. They had their own regions on these two. And it's not the humans as again mentioned and we want to see that. The humans but smart enough butte anytime and their whole seven billion career but Whenever a new animal game by and they knew they did but apparently not reasons to historical biological reasons they could not do so and we don't know the reasons why this not happen. I think not being this. I think now viet entering will get to know how jumps rule out dating what language grid ruled out deck literal and then got religion of amusing episode student in social. You are left the things that are relevant but afford is highly elements appears known as underestimate dove. Joke it's all plastic. It has actually a lot of things that i learned over. The last few chapters have really opened my eyes tool so then things and you know made me look history in a different week personally for me. This has happened that whenever. I'm reading some other ukraine which with human just political climate history of martin you relate i integrated with this book. How humans evolved and how it prohibited different areas. And how andersen this admi restricted to the other in this meal. The other will get more context. It gives you a nice perspective so date you listened to the new chapters and know what you wanted to support us go and buy coffee dot com slash everyday. Talk and keep listening to these episodes on. Yeah i think thank you and will meet in the next episode. Thank you for listening to this episode. Follow us on social media. And if you want to be part of the next episode. Live long and prosper.

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Episode 45: The questionable death of Aaron Key

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Episode 45: The questionable death of Aaron Key

"When it first happened I. Got Wind. Of A car that was out there and it took me nine must find out who that car belong to. And what happened but? There were five people in the house when he was killed and some as iron was killed, they took. To. Busy and take they dial the cleaning products from there from Vermont, House that morning to clean the house so I have two girls that tried to call a while light what during this whole time and those words were. can't talk right now you know for murder scene. That's what she said to the first girl the second girl which she said she'd go to Colt buffum side they'll go. Said I can't talk right now cleaning up murder scene and she asked who it was and she said it's rabbit that was my phone nickname and and he deserved to die. But They said my witness says. There's an argument broke out boy twos knocked out and I know that for fact, because most missing. He's actually can to my son and he went to the front door until piece it just give them my money and I'll go on that. You'll be here in a minute and Black. Day. Him In him and not into it and they say he had buddy. Not Down. In mentally big boys puffed up. Six killed and they said I earn went dione when paid him And then he hit him in the side of the face. And then the Hating brass snorkels. They took him out the baton door. After backdoor out to the shed where it's like we still farm equipment and they tried to hang but you know two, hundred, forty, five pounds of dead weight is a lot of weight. Hello. This is more. I read a weekly newspaper Column About True Crime Unsolved Homicides in the paranormal you can find links to my social media accounts in columns on my website titled the Mark Hop Dot Com. Welcome to the catch Micheel podcast. Thank you for listening. If you would like to help support my podcast with a donation for production costs please click on my pay pal donation line. For this week's episode I spoke to Lisa, who is the mother of a young man named Aaron t who died on April fifth two thousand nineteen. Leeson her son Aaron had a close relationship. Before he died, he shared some concern whether. He told his mother that he had some issues. He didn't think he could resolve on his own. In that if anything happened to him not to believe the initial reports. It's almost as if he had a premonition of his death. Lisa tried to get her son to up to her but he refused on April fifth two, thousand eighteen. Errands lifeless body was found inside a shed with a rope wrapped around his neck. Lisa told me that she initially believed that Erin had killed himself. That is until she began looking into the matter. She said that Aaron didn't have any rope bronze or any other types of marks on his neck. She also said that her son was six foot five. Based on the apparatus he supposedly hanged himself from it didn't seem possible. Lisa. Also said that when police arrived Aaron was laying on the ground in a fetal position, there is no indication that he had actually hated himself. Lisa has seen the crime scene photos. And she believes that the scene was staged. She also learned that there were at least five people in the house on the property with Aaron. She has spoken to people inside the home and has been told that the property owners had a dispute with Aaron which led to a physical altercation inside the home which led to errands death. A witness. Totally. So that people inside the house drag Aaron's body from the home and placed it in the shit. For this interview I have ended out the names of the individuals that Lisa believes know what happened to Herron? During my interview with her, she shared the horrific details about her son's final moments. Lisa said, the same story has been told by more than one person since errands death she has contacted the district attorney, the governor, the DA and anyone else that she thinks can help her Lisa has also reached out to a retired homicide detective out of Utah named Terry Steed. Is briefly looked into errands death and he fills the case was compromised. For Instance Lisa has part of the rope allegedly used by Aaron and clothing from the scene. Terry said that law enforcement should have collected the rove in any other evidence from the same. There's no reason why Lisa should happen rope. For this episode I spoke the Terry and ask for his professional opinion is a former homicide detective Lisa thanks that errands case is being hampered because the detective who investigated the case and the homeowner were Aaron was allegedly murdered our cousins. She is angry that he hasn't recused himself and not allowed to different detective to review Aaron's death. The Aaron truly commit suicide. Or. was he motor as his mother Lisa Claims Now with the story of Aaron T. I did all kinds of searches for information about him and I do not find anything I. Think the only thing I saw wasn't obituary and that was it. They haven't been MOMS word the COP to no, we're. Not even allowed to talk about it among themselves. I have a friend that she. was always closely affiliated with the day and the TAE beyond stuff. And she's been I could tell me some things that she wasn't supposed to. Tell told me that that was a gay going around her on all of them that they can't even discuss weren't down with him. Now, he was reading. It was ruled a suicide and a say has dot worn of the messed up this medical examiner policies I've ever run across and I really, St Research and it is just perfect for police officers to use it. And this area there have been. Fakes. Suicides and only one of them was true suicide but they will still all tied to the place where my son was killed and it's a drug ring. Cobra up and My son said, they'd been some sex trafficking gun running. Back Would USA population the whole county probably ain't three, thousand I mean it's it smalls backwoods area. Actually my son was born in that area this war I wasn't raised. Were did this happen it? What's what's the? Right Yeah it would've been classified as he'll how hi L. H. AM Tennessee. It's in Overton County. I'm one of the I've got is bad temper as you've ever seen, I wanna Fe Mail on physically of grace always high of Leeann I've had to fight all my life when they kill my son, they killed wrong boy. But anyway. I heard with more April the twenty first not paying seventy, seven and Salona Tennessee. Childhood maybe we weren't wealthy, but we did okay beautiful. Happy Child never saw him without a smile and as you God I would he kept that main had a heart of gold. He had Mama's tamper not daddy's and I. Wish He'd been barraged with this father's. He would defend his family. I mean to the death. Love his family nieces nephews crazy over in -mongst everybody wants crazy over. The problem with him no. So as he grew great basketball player main, him play ball together. I was bald freak we moved from up fire to Lebanon Tennessee. He wanted to play ball. And he was already gone. You could tell you is going to be big and. The color was all black coach and told him he said, I. Don't care how good you are. He said, you'll never they'll never be a white person start on my basketball team, and at that point he started drinking some has probably about fourteen somewhere in our times. Started Drinking Psalm and he's been matter time as. So. Hey did not reg whitehouse linney always felt inferior because of that because his older brother dead. Sisters younger sister did but he just felt latine. Wasn't as good as they were both because of that you know I call Middle Tra- Middle Child Syndrome but he was incredibly intelligent anything he wanted to do. He could do it. They sit and watch you do something one time. That's all it took. I mean it just come easy to it and he was he was in trouble with the law my God, after you got an adult but it was always Base drinking related or taking up somebody with somebody down he wasn't bad to fight or pick a fight. He wouldn't pick a fight. I you know I told said, don't pick five I said don't pick on people. I said, but you know you have to stand your ground or people keep running over you. Feel Hey. You're he like I said he had a lot of run INS with the law of nothing major. Ever now he's. Got Him in war but she got him out of it. When I found out, she had lied we got that straightened out but. You know paid if he crime he i. let him do his time. It would like I said never medicine major never went to the pin. One felony charge, but it was dropped. and. that. far as a legal problems that might need them but it wasn't nothing you know league they didn't know stay off charge you stuff like that I always tell them. He was six six and two, hundred and forty five pounds. That's a big guy and I talked to my. Yeah he was and just exactly. Lot My dad he except my daddy was five eleven and about a hundred and eighty five, he ended up being a real big man. And I told him I said saw and I said people do not fat men cise anymore I said you have to be careful. So he went to East to ham and they type he had known his entire life I knew him before he was born and I always steered clear of them because they had always sold drugs and that area. I? Had Gotten married back when he is twenty one then last long. He tried to hang yourself one time and mayonnaise daddy found him but he had got past all that he was. Okay. You know he'd Done good would make you know concrete is Damon sorta speak. But he ended up up there guys house name. And I told him I said Oh lord on. I said just stay away from he says for MOM got some got a new and he didn't tell me exactly what it was not for a long time. Anyway and he got hooked up with a girl when she was young she was absolutely gorgeous on your mom I knew her father burr mom would no good. So she ended up lot Mama. Dad was dying nursing home will young hurt and a truck rick dollar never got. Sam. So she strong bad on dope I'm a real bad and I earned had this saying he thought he could save people and he he would try and I begged him not to mess with her but anyway, you know he had worked for his Daddy, his excellent driller. His Dad. When his dad loss of went took his social security. You know he just didn't want to work at the company in the more. So he layoff. But he made you know got on SSI, he was hurt real bad and truck rake two thousand. Five I messed. Up really bad that. They were going to have to cut his foot off to get him out and he wouldn't let him cut it out, cut it off and they broke it all places. So he always had trouble with but. Hey had been happiness cousin Vicky Bush or heart she. Dot. COM manufacturing. And she is facing a charge and the police officer. That, you'll hear about in a few minutes. New Viki and told me that he you know that she had got the charge and iron. Starting. down. With that, with the girl that he ran hitter own tatum rant and. I. Hate Calling me. You know we talk I'm be okay but. You know he knew how she was when you know pay didn't have any money for her to buy stuff with. Then, she anybody's now hunt living and just broke his heart. You know he loved this girl really a whole lot. and. A weight before he died. Actually days before he died. He told me and we'll talk it called me from his daddy's phone his talk continue. He says, Momma, he said I think I, got into something. I can't get out of. I said son just pack your stuff and leave and He said, well, Mama can't. I said why he's saying. They won't let me and I said. He said the call I said wait a minute. What do you mean? He said Momma if something happens to me. He said Towel Derek said will. And he will tell you what was going on I said, are you working for the cop? 'cause say I hadn't lived up netter and forty years. then. visited much because it just too much harder part I up there. He, he said, well, I'm trying to help Viki get out of the mess she is in. And I told you about Viki wouldn't do that for you. He says, I have to finish this. I said, well, be careful. He said Momma he said is something happens I didn't do it. And I said, I earn just wrong I said golden run Momma he said I'm in a place where I came. And I had no like I said, I had no I didn't know any of the cops up there in those counties except for one also I knew for forty years and he was in a different county. Earned that but on that particular day. And a wall. So on. Friday. That was on Thursday when I talked to in. Thursday prior to his death. A will you will is nice Friday he went out to. Close family friend I'm Bobby Kirk. And ask Bobby if he could stay out there and bobby said, well, yeah, you can come stay on one you want to. He said you can't burn Karen. He says, well, he says they'll isis she's got to be with him by since she can't stay and Hey, tells bobby he said Bobby Said Tale. My mom and day if something happens to me, I didn't do it. So he knew something was coming down I just I don't think he thought they'd ever go that far. I'd been in Nashville for a doctor's appointment today die and I come home I. Come Back to West Tennessee and I six thirty I've got an got nonpaying dot in the bathtub and they called me and told me. He is dead or that he hung you say and I said well, is he okay? And I said, no mamma, he's gone. So. Hell I fell out of the Bathtub but the his dad had dropped him all they got into it down there Friday morning real bad and took him over to his dad. He's in the morning. He spent the whole day over his dad's with his uncle and his first cousin. And they told him to come back that they knew they give him his rent money back. So he had his daddy drive him back down there. And told his dad he said daddy come back and. Getting in thirty. Minutes. And Take Me Livingston and his DAD said okay. So when he got out of the truck, he was wearing a per old brown tennis shoes some kind he asked his dad and he said, what are you talking about my shoes daddy and daddy didn't lock so the she had to go but And Twenty, five minutes after his daddy dropped him off they called him and told his daddy his dead. and. His Dad got down there. COPSES are. The cops never faintness boy hanging. He was on the ground when they got there I saw the crime scene photos. There was a rope on his nate, the crime scene photo showed there were no marks on his neck I mean nothing but the right side of his face looked hamburger meat and I might pay for I. got up there. Of course, I am international law topsy. and. I'll call home and they told me to I told him to call me when you head. Out of Nashville where I said I'll come on. So I got up there. And at that time I still believe he had actually Hong you sale. We got up ninety still picked out and his dad and his cousin went outside. To. Smoke. and. I stand nerves. I don't know the reason I asked the gossip and. He said you and I asked to see. I don't know why. But I had the same and We went in, they turn the lot so. Now look any and. They're supposed to do on a full cranium more talk on him which. I don't think they did. And didn't even look. My son Isis tore up so bad. Oh, he's. Right. I. Was Split From The twentieth well. Down to the. To the corner. visit. The main me just from and you can say Where they've been blood all over his face his nose is broken you could say. Where there was a lot smeared blood lockheed been more stuff. You know when? Crime Does. But on the table. I'll loop his nick look. Hard and I looked at mortician. I asked him I said, do you see any marks on his neck? He said in my twenty five years I've never seen anybody hanging herself in it. Look like this. Show that not. A girl called me and she said laces. Iron, didn't new sale I said I. Know we did I knew already that he did but the next morning I went down to worry happened that and. I still didn't I looked at it and more the why they said he happened they said he had climbed a pole it would have been sixteen for poll with no steps for on it. When the poll? Santa Room Rope through next to next to a tan roof, wrapped it around Tennessee. And tied it with one hand while hanging onto the pope the my son was I'd handed. He could only thing he can do with his left hand was take wax off the car. When it didn't make sense to me and I stood there they said he. Got His foot home and some lumber. I put my foot nine, five, foot nine and I've got a thirty, four inch insane and my foot was on the ground. With his foot was holding them at lumber. His right foot wouldn't have been on the ground. So you definitely questioned the suicide then. I imagine that there wasn't even stronger case when he found out that there were people who really knew what happened to Aaron. Did they just tell you or did they also go to the police? And if they did go to the police, what was their response to Aaron's death being a homicide and not a suicide law tells the minder on them Biz. and. the COM- basically laughed and made fun of me when people were giving me information I would give it to heal. Because I thought it would help. And I actually have a recorded conversation where When Nata come in, he told me to the white now one more report and he said it was a report on the road. Myself Okay. So the day call me. And told me I said well, I won't copies everything he said. Told me the only way I can have. Time was if they let me closed it i. what what, what, about the report that you're right now on the road he said they ain't no report of no rotation. We don't know that in suicide I said so you ruled it a suicide before that boy's body ever let left for Nash and I got real smart with me which I like I say I recorded. And We went up there they did let us luke refined but I have I haven't been allowed to get a police report a copy of the nine one, one call we weren't allowed to type Patriots, your Mike Copies of none if unless we would agree to close. and. I wouldn't agree to and. It comes back. Doug. Like I said in Tennessee I have a high school education and I don't have a felony I can be a county medical medical examiner in Tennessee. Now, if AQAP goes out to the plane and says, well, this looks like an apparent suicide. Generally that's what the county medical examiner will say I had no idea. It was this crazy. But if they get a third of the way suicide it and say, well, we'll just go along what Tennessee says. That's worth stopped. I mean even know Crimea more topsy was ordered and laugh I, promise on all its holy net laying there in that casket I could not say were they took back his head off the what no stitches there wasn't any glue and they're still with no marks on his neck. On all toss to report it sales one. Published mark under his Adam's apple not I'd have to look at but said, it was about an inch swamp. Now, I couldn't find it. And I looked at him like I said before they worked on a funeral home and I've got I've got paid a little gill statements but they will not talk to the locals. They won't even talk to the FBI they're so scared but the drug ring is tied in three counties up there and the detective investigating my son there is Derek sample. He's the drug they your second cousin my son was killed in the how they did not know when the how. Everybody was kept outside. There was a girl hid in the house. They never question because she has family that's in law enforcement count, and when it first happened I got wind. Of A car that was out there and it took nine months to find out who that car belongs to. and. What happened but there were five people in the house when he was killed and. Iron was killed they to. To. Take they odile the cleaning products from there from MOM's House that morning clean the house so. I have two girls that tried to call a wildlife what during this whole course of time and those words were I can't talk right now cleaning up a murder saint she said to the first girl the second girl which she said she'd go to Colt buffum side. They'll coat saying I can't talk right now acquainting up and murder saying and she asked who it was and she said it's rabbit that was my nickname and he deserved to die. But I was they said, my witness says there's an argument broke out boy God he's colleagues knocked out and I know that for fact, 'cause Moore's to Smith. He's actually can to my son and he went to the front door until peace. It just gave me my money and I'll go on. You'll be here in a minute and. Laughed at him in Him and not into it and they say he had buddy. Not Pin down a little bit boring mentally boy he. Speaks indicated and they said iron went down when paid him. Any, hit him in the side of the face. And then the. Haiti more brass knuckles. That took him out the back door. So your smut out the back door out to the shed. It's like you still farm equipment and they tried to hang but you know two, hundred, forty, five pounds dead white is a lot of weight and they never could get him up and the thing it got me. The crime scene photo shows him and a white. Shirt with slaves. When his daddy dropped him all he had on a dark blue long sleeved shirt. He had on the Brown tennis shoes in the crime scene photos and I have the boots now and I have the claims that they sent back with me. He had on a pair of Snyder booth, the come up to your knees and they were unlicensed and his belt was on life and he had on that white t shirt and he was laying on his side in a fetal position. Now tells the cops and tell them my husband to that. He tried to do CPR on night. He would have been laying flat on his back for him to done Pr. That's what I'm told anyway they say two-week-old week old puppies caused all the damage to his face. Day, stood right there with him for three hours. Within three feet of him. The interviews were. Yes and no questions were lay. You know well, this is obviously a suicide. Why are you doing here? They live they're the ones that. They interview live there. And I've got a girl says that got one of the people that was are in jail and Jackson County Ny said he walked in and confessed. But his grandfather says he desire when it happened I mean I. Call to eighty lot. Of people the people were scared to death of lower there and. killed a guy back two years ago nearly the same way and he was from Jackson County but they bride that I've run around Brian Seven people I've done it but the law. Seems to warn it laid on I'm thinking this because it didn't take disabled because they should have recused himself in mopping but iron and this girl had a volatile relationship and They say she put the rope around her neck said you did nice sold bitch you know like I say I've got a list of names when they do something I'll give them to give them. I'll help whenever I can and the kicker now you're GonNa, love this art. When my we drop my son off, he was wearing a real pre camouflage at it was left at the crime scene. You can say we're blood has soaked through inside out. New Hat I have the hat the wrote that was on the scene I. have that wrote I shouldn't have that the law should have that stuff but will not release his wallet to me. There's so many questions that don't make no sense. But you know, hey, new something's coming or he wouldn't have said what he said to me aren't they wouldn't tell bobby to tell my he said, tell my mom and Daddy I didn't do it. Don't never let it go. He idolized his dad and he wouldn't have never done anything. We're his day could possibly walked up on that same. But now I do have a girl. She's in Sorta like an undercover investigative reporter, her and my son. When they were young boyfriend and girlfriend SORTA, and she's running around up there and play the drogue vixen analysis and she has got a lot of info some of it. She won't tell me she says, she thinks it'll hurting that now my son would no sane and pay done some drug all I drank, but he wasn't a violent killer now Karen tell them that iron slough through across the table I went in the house. There's no place in there that that could possibly affect only clean room and the whole house was. He was in and when I looked at the bad was sitting in the middle of the room no sheets no wind gets no pillars. No curtains on the wall only thing in there was a chest control and I made an oblique smile lissa strong delays room. It burnt. My is so bad and I didn't pay attention to it right then and just you know after a little while things come back and talk to the old man and I talked to the girl that was hit in there when it happened but now they're saying has video of them killing, but they don't talk us so I don't know. But I'll I can tell you is the people that I've talked to ruined the junkies out I. Don't I'm not. They're not credible the May so and you know I try to way if they got something to gain by the US but I, think everybody's just tired of those people doing people away they've done. was shout he is six foot told. Sixty. sadie was two, hundred eight. This more war fast thirty eight in pants at six six. There's no way he was two hundred and eight pounds I mean it's just not possible. But you know things I remember I do that why type of decision when they autopsies and I think that's the collarbone correct I know they do like the y shaping the chess and they usually cut the head to they studied the brain. Well I made those things on there. There was methamphetamines in his system. There was alcohol any system now when his dad dropped him, all he had. A half a half a pint of liquor and the police all through. told me. That, there was just a little bit under half of that gone. But he had been drinking on that all day and blood alcohol was high and the mask level. I was told it was high enough for that to have been lethal in itself. Now, I don't know I mean his dad said, he didn't seem do nothing his cousins said, hey, didn't same. So you know I wasn't there I can't take. But now, one of the scenarios was I. Shot Him up with by note, the my son is locked his mother petrified a needle cause all pious out. You show me a natal I'll pass out. I don't care for me too big. Nobody knows just. You know like I. Say before I seen him laying on the table I made peace with that. He hung himself. But after I looked at him and people start calling me that you know everybody loved this boy but. I was told by this garage telling you about this reporter she's willing to talk to you. If you WANNA talk to her, I was told that they had Britain us that would be the one thing I would lose it over and he told them if you mess with my family I'll go long tell them everything you're doing down here and that's The plan the killing. But Hey, was working as a CI for Derek Sybil. I asked Derek about it and he just laughed he didn't say no, they didn't say yes he just laughed but they would not let me say the portion of the rope they have the portion I have is forty seven inches long. The part around his neck was real loose. It was like hanging or four ranches loose around his neck with a couple. She's sticking out of there's no way that's enough rope to get up sixteen played. They couldn't have got to him to cut him down. That was the big thing I'm thinking. Why did they leave the road? You know somebody else could put DNA could have been on she now and I've had it sealed up and plastic every sand and the hat but none of the hat we'll have some of my hair on it because it didn't don't on me until I sit down and looked at it that it was dried blood because I took the q tail and it was dried blood and when he thirty dollars for the hat because his daddy didn't want he bought it and I'm stopping and and back to the point and to go far place pull some Hilby justice they don't get so aside while possessed certificate for kids know doesn't Roger, Johnson. And this guy says, well, pay as waterfall. Tell you who and why they murdered you song and he threatened how my son's body moved where I couldn't find him. I had to quit talking to him for two or three days because I was mad. But that point and my cousin's officer in Livingston for the city police. told me keeping talking I, record it every bit of it but that was a guy looked at it. He said, asked me what I thought about it and I said, well, you know. I took a little criminal psychology and I said well I. I thought I, knew who who wrote it but then I got to looking at the Senate structures and the war will just perfect and I said from what I say is somebody that's not American and he says, why do you say that I said because languages to perfect the Senate structure? He said you're right and he said, what else do you get from it? I said there's somebody knows exactly what went down I'm good about analyzing and stuff and looking at it from everywhere. But Hey, kept pushing me he went on and talk me three weeks I mean crazy. He, said, this is a lot bigger than what you know I said, what are you talking about the drug bring us going on Like I say I, haven't heard any anybody's nine. No need to get somebody else killed. It was the way I see but I'm trying to find the guy was that I some kind of analyst. told me he said I hope your somewhere where they can't find you. I said I am I said I'm well protected. I said I'm not I'm not in Tennessee he so that's good. He said because I mean to hurt. The lowering Jackson County have been watching his grave to make sure that how because I know I'm GonNa cut loose and I take care of it. Now, one way that they most of that I've been through more. So you're you're saying that if the day that when your son Died, your husband had Jew or his dad had just dropped him off and just only in a matter of thirty minutes or so your son was dead Internet. Frame is that right? Yes. Sir It was. It couldn't abandoned more than forty five minutes at the most is what I'm getting out of their. Lady Lives Right. Next door. She's saying didn't realize part of what she was saying you know I had told me that. had. Tried to get him to go to Nashville and two kid out some nine and ten year old girls. Now say iron head and drink and God, knows he loves women. He'd been with more women than you can imagine. But when it comes to kids, kids are sacred and that's you know that's why I raise my kids. You know that family sacred that you know you take care of the kids and. Herrmann. A rough. told him again, I'm rob. To face, he said you both working for the cost he said and I'm. GonNa. Kill. You now still alive. He's one talk his wife was one was talking to like I said, there's people within the top, but they're scared I call bi because I knew I couldn't get TV or the day you're about to do and I called the DA and she tried to bug me off until I told you talk to their. So. She sent me a piece of paper to fill out and then come to find out. She'd just get fouling because I has to ride through a port where I live and see I didn't know that and I still got to go do that I don't know if it's best thing to do that because it's going to expose where am I at when? I do. The the way this is supposed to have gone down as your son was at this house, and he supposedly committed suicide in a house full of people. There were five people in that House that doesn't make any sense actually more. Were supposed to committed suicide was outside in the shade but I say the call when they got there, Hey, was on the ground supposedly what I wasn't nobody there. I'm witnesses same cared and different car scanner from there. Right. After you know during that timeframe and I haven't been able to find out which officer arrived I I know the place ouster wrote. My husband stay there three hours and my son's body was still on the ground all that time and I was over his body didn't lead to Nashville till one o'clock Nazenin and then they he was declared dead at six fifteen but they didn't take no body temperature. Can you know they didn't do none of that crime scene and I thought they always done that. But now that might you know I watch a lot of TV still select be some crazy stuff there too but And my husband were the ones that were interviewed at the same Karen the girlfriend they locked her up, put her on a in the car and her initial charge was murder and they pulled it out then Tennessee. They got some kind of little paper. You know like convenience stores hazing jail who's been charged and her initial one it said murder on it. There was another guy rested at the same for some previous charges, and then the one they still have in jail he got crazy Mama, and grandma wouldn't give money. So he lived his Mustang Gt on fire and his grandmother's house so easy and for arson he ain't going nowhere but he was there when I was killed and He come to the funeral home while we were picking stuff out, he walked band and then turn around walk back out and took off the pation he was fixing to come into the funeral home. And pulled up and they were heard. Arguing in parking lot with. And tell them said, why did you do this family like this? Look what you've done to them and she said, you don't know what you're talking about role, the window drove off. Tape. One supposedly win and talk to a cop in Jackson County and tell them hated. But now I was told that there when they cut him down but like I said, there's no nobody Paulo enough to have been able to rate because he died. So they none of it makes no sense. Liquor bottle it was are to sing my and it wasn't my son brand. There was some kind of other little I. Don't know what they are a little pop out payoff things. It was our show at the same. They left them behind i. mean it was just crazy i. mean they were busy ruining people but they let dogs tire, my sons, their own dog a two week old puppy can make a four H. Cut. It looks like a scalpel done it but that don't make sense. But now his face was pace. They wouldn't let us say the medical examiner's photos of him. I didn't get to see them but like I said, well, what we did get to say they. US. Hollering in raising CAIN and DA's office like this trying to distract and a lot of stuff that we will told they're they're on evidence shows it's crap. So the police are trying to say that your. Son would have committed suicide with all these people in the house, and that seems unlikely when people commit suicide they typically don't do that. They'll do it alone. There's nobody present. So right there that sounds Kinda strange. Now, you said that the police interviewed two of them. So if there was five there, why didn't they talk to all of everybody that was there? That's my question. Was One that was was one that was hitting the house. WAS INSIDE SUPPOSE Now, only ones there when it happened would have been an. said she was in the shower he she come an run said iron finally hung yourself but then she got care phone but she had ironed say iron had a phone. We can't. His cousin. With, the one that got popped for manufacturing. It finally got her and another cousin and told the phone all the patients because it had incriminating stuffing 'cause I told me he said Momma. My phone, you'll be able to find everything you need something more the. I told the COPS who had the fall where the phone was awake can't catch in help. I could always find her at home she wouldn't give it to us. So so who's handling this case is a specific department that's looking at this that would who would take tips on this case I only ones I know of I tried to get him to invite asked. To come in pay me I can't call me on unless the day or the sheriff's department in the county where it happened I asked them to come in. So it has to be able to county with their extendable and I. I won't talk to him because I have no use for and when I looked at the I, don't know what you'd call it and I looked at it. There was an eighty page report and I thought well, this man may have actually tried to do some and what I got to the thirty ninth page. Turned into letters, his life, half his size letters it was discussions between me and him the text messages he had blowed up the half inside. So. There were thirty nine pages -posedly in there but A. Cairn we did they done what you call a video interview with her now with arrested her was high she was drawn now my understanding, they're not supposed to interview for thirty days until they top and I. Don't know if that's a fact or not. But Anyway, they interviewed her the next morning and her body lying mortgage everything said she's lying she couldn't look straight. I'm a she was pitiful. What gets me is everything the detective telling me their own evidence contradicts it but everybody that was at that house went Aaron died nooijer friend with iron. Using when I talked to people, my goal is tried to get tips for people for cases. So to me, it doesn't sound like you trust that particular. Police Department. No I don't trust them period I wanna get out the fact that your son died under suspicious circumstances iron was killed because of what he knew I talked to the governor's office. I had some people call governor saying Soda just disappeared but I may not call everybody Mama but I honestly just go away. I. Ain't going nowhere. For this part of the episode I spoke to retired Homicide Detective Terry Steed from Utah I asked him to provide his insight about this case in about his experience investigating suicide cases. Yeah. Policeman here in the Valley Salt Lake Valley for twenty seven years and I work all the different divisions within the department detect for about fourteen of show those twenty seven years, and of course investigated. Homicides and things like that. You know and I met her kind of through a mutual friend. I've got a GAL friend in. Alabama who said her name is Debbie her son and two other boys were murdered some years back while riding your HDD in a field kind of an interesting story I'll send you a link on it and I think they saw something that they shouldn't have. Somebody. You know took him out but there's so many out of bins and elbows and everything else in that that it's just it's pretty amazing story but apparently, my friend Teddy had befriended least how maybe a week or two ago you know a women. Sons murder. Sometimes you know team together from different sources and whatnot, and so I, decided to join her a friend request. So, basically that's the beginning and the end because the only really known her for like eight days. But she started sending me a scenario has she had you know put it in or and right from the great gift. Wasn't any question for me? What's in a few moments You could tell it was a murder rather than suicide and that the agency not necessarily the agency but the investigate here first responder investigator that agency wanted nothing to do it and WanNa, to exonerate sweep under the carpet anything involved in it being a homicide I didn't pick any evidence didn't documented anything basically just handle it like you handle barking dog call. And that's IT and Bang Bang. Bang opt to something else so I don't know who he was coming for whether it was friend relatives. Acquaintance you know whatever it is, but you know definitely governors and You know I hope I wish that. Because you know that's just not right. Your son killed and you know blame it on himself you know when you? Faction started put tears together. You realize there's no way that happens. There's no way that happened the way that you know the outcome was. When officers right. So that SORTA in a nutshell what I would say she had mentioned to me that her son Aaron was about six foot four, six, foot five, six, five kangaroo shake. Yeah. Yeah. And he supposedly hanging himself from inside this shed and she showed me the sent me the picture I guess of supposedly where he I guess where he died. I think the point was that it seemed unlikely that a six foot five man would've been able to hang himself from I. Mean from that apparatus, it just didn't make sense right? Right. Well, I say. The whole thing. You know the value to pick up. The rope into. Evidence. Just. Played and right off the bat. Better taking their roles in which the which done, you'd better looking into evidence just cover your bus for later on and then you can do that I mean they just basically left everything where like an you know to coffee and donuts now in your career did you how did you handle any suicides, oh? Yeah. Yeah. From police officers, point of view. What is the proper? If you think it's a suicide? Is there something that you do differently than you would if as if it was a homicide order, you just handle at the same. Well, you know you try not to have any. Eh, any conclusions you know already sitting your mind bias and when you arrive at she regarded. So the dispatch information you know whether Chen murder or whether it's suicide preconceived like it's just GonNa throw your. Your whole train of thought off is what you want to do what you want to look at. So when you arrive on that, you start serving you know as many things as you can chasing it all into consideration and as you move forward, you suddenly things are adding up. Your ass. Or Amishai one way or the other, and that's when we start you. What makes me go over getting start to question you know exactly what? That actually, you know try to seek through you know through your thing. So so I guess you were able to take a look at a lot of documentation her things that she had said. You know I but again, it was just it was just you know maybe. Eight or ten paragraphs is all I mean. She didn't send me any pictures or anything like that. It was just a you know the basic information on you know different things and stuff. So I really haven't had an opportunity to you know to sit down and you know to whatever you know there's telling Alabama I actually spent almost a week a couple of summers ago I flew back Alabama because I wanted to see that the killing Olsen do some interviews and stuff and made some fairly good headway on a pretty much closed case and You know that's the way to actually do it. It's not just kinda money more in quarterback it. Based on some written information because you know you have an had is on, you know you're just basically going by somebody else's impression and recording those events. So what does she need to do you think in your opinion? Well, she needs she's got everything together that she can get together and they're not going to close ranks further on her. And she needs to make some contract which some people and get some question answer people could make a change and you know I mean she listed a state senator from that from Tennessee or. I guess it was State Center I mean that's the kind of guy get in your corner. You know heads are GonNa roll. You know boss GonNa Start Rolling because he's GonNa WanNa know some answers to like. there's still making sense at all. You know this thing westbound gold from day one minute one and whatever, and that's the best way to do a little bit of Public Opinion Obviously Hertz and apparently I noticed recently looks like I, don't know she's offered a reward something but I've saw one Santana just kind of made me wonder about it because he said something about specific person and then she said you know purse person to you know come up with it or come across is going to get the deal. So again, I don't know exactly what? It is and stuff 'cause not anywhere in the Polish that I shape that. You, know I mean that's way to his opera reward for information leading to. Up. So you know it's You know kind of a two prong approach away I. Get. A of somebody that could do something about it actually three prominent against and then. Throw some money where your mouth is and if you can get somebody to. Turn because apparently, there are quite a few people and each dopers. They're all dopers which I suspect they are, and you're offense before five hundred bucks or somebody turn and give you know information on the flanks because they're. You know they're needing some of their go. Then you know that's GonNa Start Moving things along 'cause then you're gonNA have a A leg in and that you can then use to twist other people because for instance, this guy's name is John that she's talking about right now and he knows that Bob had a large part in there saying and show you how for John to to lay out Bob and then once he's late Bob out then you contact Bob and say, Hey, John Shit you did this the other and then you start getting the conflict and the finger pointing and different directions and everything. So that's kind of the way I think the approach. So well, that sounds like that's probably what he's trying to do so yeah. I would think. So shake when she said the deal, the first nurse person to break or something like that or come across. So, well, she's definitely determined. So hopefully throughout her person investigation, I hope that you able to advise her just give her good information so that she can figure this out the right pupil him and that's true market. You know the reality is I really haven't talked to her all that many times back I've talked to you longer than I have her on about fortifications and I sort of wish she would. Settle down she seems like she's a partner skillet it's hard to you know get tight down for one thing because she reminds going one hundred miles an hour different directions. Well, you know she lost her sign. Well and I think I would be too out of the circumstances little bit scattered rain I mean goodness. Gracious. That's crazy. I've talked to a lot of different parents. That have lost their kids and. They all seem to be kind of the same way react the same way they're just. They just want to know something you know they weren't just I mean I've never lost a child so I can't say how I act I'm sure I probably would be very rational somebody somebody did something one of my sons. So right now I hear. After speaking to detector steed, I completed my interview with Lisa Masters about her son's death. Now that I've heard the details about your son. I can understand your persistence in pursuing justice for him. It's difficult for me to understand why law enforcement isn't taking more seriously. But unfortunately, this does happen. You definitely have an uphill battle to get the word suicide removed from errands death certificate I know have one final question for anyone listening to this podcast. What would you say to someone who has information about errands death? Oh my grandchildren. Releasing their Daddy. Loved they wouldn't left. In the world please give those babies club. No their daddy didn't take his own. It's not about main poor people up there. The refer to call portfolio or Give people back the voice you people like their communities. You I'm a heartbroken shattered buggered. Not But. Those kids. That are what's important now. Those kids need to be able to walk the streets and not Friday somebody's GonNa come back to the kill Vail. In. That concludes the story of Aaron. Key. Do you know anything about his death? Can you help this grieving mother get justice for her beloved son Aaron was a world she loved him in two thousand and nineteen. It was her son that died under mysterious circumstances. This could be your son tomorrow or next week. If you have any information about this case, please contact Lisa Masters directly. There were facebook page titled Justice for Aaron Shane Key she would like to see every tip I and will then forward the information to the proper authorities. I will provide this information, my podcast notes, and if you are a parent law enforcement official friend or relative seeking. 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