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What Does the Media Miss About Real Americans?
"Well, Selena, what are what is the mainstream or, as I like to call it, regime media, missing about America that you're seeing when you go out and actually talk to Americans between the coasts? Well, I think part of the problem in our major newsrooms is the majority of the people that work in them. Come from this sort of super zip code of our country, right? From the centers of wealth and power, there's nothing wrong with that. However, that does give you a different viewpoint. And I think newsrooms are also filled with people that went through the same Ivy League schools. There's not people that went to a community college or State College. I mean, up until recently, up until Watergate, most journalists didn't even go to college, but what made them really, really good at their job, was that they lived in their community. They
When Did Marriage Become so Hard?
"To understand marriage. Today we thought it best to go back to a time and place when marriage was very different. Well i've been studying the history of family for many many years. But i specifically got interested in marriage as we got into these debates. About what traditional marriage was that. Stephanie coons. She's a professor at the evergreen state college and the author of the book marriage a history. Stephanie says the earliest marriages had nothing to do with the feelings of two people or their attraction to one. Another as you probably know marriage was much more about economics and acquiring powerful inlaws marriage originally arose in more egalitarian ban level societies as a way of sharing resources and establishing a peaceful relations with groups. That you might otherwise only see occasionally and you might not know if they were going to be friends or enemies It was a way of circulating obligations and goods. Mary my child off to you and that means you owe me things. But i also you things. Stephanie brought up a famous example from history. The union between cleopatra of egypt and mark antony of rome elizabeth taylor as cleopatra siren of the niles this is from a nineteen sixty three film version. Richard burton as mark antony impetuous leader once in pinson legion dreaded adversary on the field of battle. The hollywood version of the story portrays cleopatra and antony as being very much in love but stephanie paints a slightly different picture. I think the theme song for that Relationship could have been what's love got to do with it. They may have been passionate but it was more passion for power than a sexual. Although sexual probably entered into it to cleopatra and antony marriage was primarily about strategy wrong egypt with the two most powerful empires in the world so getting them anybody who got them together and the gotten alliance between them would be unstoppable.
North Dakota Governor Vetoes Penalizing State Colleges Over Abortions
"Governor of North Dakota, part of partially vetoed a bill that would have sanctioned 11 state colleges and universities for directing federal grant money to any individual or organization that promotes or performs abortions. The governor said the penalties are quote
"state college" Discussed on KFI AM 640
"The clouds return for the weekend and a chance of rain early next week. We've got a problem on the 91 in Anaheim. Eastbound side at the 57. You've gotta crash on the right shoulder of that connector road. Now crews are on scene there, blocking the two right lanes. Traffic stop and go from State College Chino brushfire on the sixties Barnett Reservoir Street. It looks like that's on the hillside in Burbank, North Bound five and Alameda Crash blocks The off ramp and in San Fernando, the 2 10 westbound at the 1 18. You've gotta crash blocking the onramp. Slow traffic continues through DeVore tonight on the 15 north bound between the 2 15 and 1 38. This report is sponsored by Stater Brothers Ko Phi in the sky helps get you there Faster. I'm Dave Joseph. Happy New Year from the state or brothers Markets family to yours. May you and your family have peace, good health and happiness. Covert 19 cases are increasing at an alarming rate in California, threatening our families, Communities, hospitals and our economy way must take action now to stop the surge to wear a mask to stay. 6 ft Apart. Wash your hands and stay home. Thies. Sacrifices can help stop the surge. If we all do our part to learn more visit, covert 19 dot CIA dot gov's this'll message is brought to you by the center at Sierra Health Foundation. Love getting prices that are lower than low on food that's fresher than fresh. Then shop it, Ralphs. We give you more ways to save on the fresh you love with tools like the routes app where you can find personalized coupons on top of weekly sales, giving you prices Are lower than that every day. Look, Ralphs fresh for everyone right now you can.
Where Is The Joe Paterno Statue?
"For years now the whereabouts of an iconic joe paterno statue have been unknown and today as part of our. Look back at twenty twenty. We're replaying an episode about the statue that first aired back in june. The athletics audrey snyder spoke with me. About why penn state has gone to such great lengths to conceal the statues location and which she discovered in her own quest to find it from wondering athletic. I'm could beat the davidson and this is the lead so audrey. it's been almost ten years since. Joe paterno at penn state. What is the state of their football program. Today penn state right now is consistently tap. Fifteen program tackles still on his feet. Smoke with a straight on touchdown. This is a team. That's been the new year's six games in three of the past four years. This is a team. That's at a high level of benefit prospects and it's almost easy to forget where this program was just because of how quickly it's it's found itself on the rebound so the reason we're here today. The joe paterno statue which became a huge source of contention in the aftermath of the jerry. Sandusky scandal can you describe in back in those days the providence of the turner statue on campus. It was a really big deal. There was one stop many fans had to make before they went into beaver stadium to watch the game. Whenever we come to penn state. We never failed to stop by and have our picture taken here. Embodies a man. It is the bronze statue of joe. Paterno who's a seven foot nine hundred pound bronze statue. There were thousands upon thousands of graduation photos of kids in caps and gowns underneath. Joe paterno as he has his barons pointer finger extended in the air and it was just such a landmark and walk us through what it was like when the statue came down with authorities are on site this morning at penn state prepping to bring down joe paterno statue. Employees have begun to place fencing around the statue and a tarp state college and university. Police are on the scene right. Your i've learned morning defense up around statue about thirty police. Officers walk out of beaver stadium surround. The statue was done like a surprise by six o'clock in the morning on a sunday people were already wondering what happened to this statue and where it went and for so many fans. The removal of the statue made it look like joe paterno was guilty and so many people who are looking at this story a locally they see a statue coming down and they say well clearly this isn't mission of joe paterno skills and that honestly that's something in the court of public opinion that's continued to play out but turnover reported to people will counteract that and say well. He didn't do enough. He should've done more. He should have followed up with more statue was so symbolic of a whole era owes penn state football. That was being taken down while the litigation was still ongoing so it made it looked like one thing which of course angered a lot of fans. A lot of alumni makes me very angry There are a couple of things going on first of all. We don't know all the facts. Seems like we keep making knee jerk reactions to your say where caving to pressure because now looked like hence status jumping to conclusion based off of the free report former. Fbi director louis. Freeh puts the blame on joe paterno and three other top penn state officials for covering up jerry sandusky child-sex-abuse but you also had a chance that that because of what had happened with jerry sandusky with sensitivity with compassion for his victims. How can you keep a statue up of a head coach. Who at the time had a defensive coordinator who was sexually abusing young boys. I mean it was just so complicated and the thing in all of this was chopra. Paternal never particularly liked the statue. It shows with this bronzed finger looking like he's giving the number one pose which was like so anti turnover in that it made. It looked like he was boasting but so many people were clinging to the statute because it was their connection to joe paterno in that penn state era of football that they knew in loved. But you then wonder like. Should we ever put statues of anyone. Can you celebrate a person in only honor part of them or does a statue represents kind of this all encompassing being. And that's what makes it so risky when he decided to put a statue like this up because even when this thing came out in two thousand and one show paternal is legacy everything. It looked bulletproof so
"state college" Discussed on 850 WFTL
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College Campuses Opened for Business, Now Scores of Students Have Covid-19
"This is on point Jane Clayson. We're talking with student newspaper editors about what college life is like in a pandemic and how the choices their schools have made are impacting students. My guest this hour Andy Thomason senior editor at the chronicle for Higher Education Andy. We were talking about the political sort of faultlines at play even in higher ed right now, this sort of red state blue state colleges in. Ryan States by Republicans are more likely to offer in person courses. It appears blue states or more online has that held steady throughout the opening here. It has but it's gotten more complex as states have to wrestle with. You know the consequences of reopening the public health numbers on campus and that sort of thing for instance, one of the first campuses to reopen the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill had faced a mandate from the system to reopen but just I think about a week Yep after they had started classes, they were forced to shut down in effectively evacuate campuses. So the public health realities are definitely altering some of. That decision making and many colleges and universities are are not messing around they're cracking down on these large gatherings large parties at northeastern here in Boston they expelled students that gathered in a room together and there was no refund on the thirty six thousand dollars tuition Ohio state issued two, hundred, twenty, eight suspensions to students attended parties a give us some other examples of the disciplinary measures that colleges are taking now. Well, much of that action has actually been predominantly rhetorical sort of warning students saying this semester if it has to end early, it's on you. It's not on us. That's the message from administrators on many campuses there have been lots of suspensions at lots of campuses It actually helps sort of spur something of a backlash among others in the higher education community saying the students didn't make the decision to reopen it was the administrators and are you going To blame students for being students when they didn't really have a hand in these plans, some observers called it hypocritical well, right and and you know I've heard both sides, is it too much to ask college students to give up so much of their college experience and on the other hand you know be responsible put a mask socially distance. I mean there are two sides to this as there are more broadly speaking in the cultural conversation as a whole. That's absolutely true and yes, you can see both sides to it, and of course, in a pandemic, we all have to behave responsibly behaviors good public health citizens, but you have to realize and recognize this occurring in the larger context of institutions that have their own institutional priorities, financial, political, and cultural, and in some cases at least students have. Found themselves in the center of that and and facing some of the consequences.
Netflix's 'Tiger King' was watched by 34 million viewers in the US in 10 days, according to Nielsen
"Tiger King on Netflix was watched by 34 million people in the 1st 10 days after it was released, making it one of the most popular series of all times. It was about this little known Area in the world. Life of zookeeper Joe exotic on people who collect animals and have these little roadside zoos that we're going to talk about. Joe Exotic was accused and convicted of exploiting wild animals and also plotting to kill another conservationists who campaigned against him. He sentenced to 22 years in prison. And Ah, well, I I want to talk a little bit about. Why can you buy a tiger? Can you imagine you can buy a tiger cub for as little as $2000? Why was this guy allowed to run this roadside zoo with seem like no regulation by the government. And are there laws And why aren't there laws to protect these beautiful wonderful animals? Joining us is not really the foremost expert in the country. On this topic. Kearney and Nasserist serves as the director and assistant clinical professor of animal welfare at Michigan State College of Law. She runs Klaus Consulting on has a great podcast called Tiger Talk. Welcome to the show. Carney. How are you? I'm fine. Thank you for having me so excited to talk about this topic because it's just fascinating and let me at first ask you. How were you involved in the Joe exotic thing at all in any way, shape or form? I'm the attorney who pitched the wildlife trafficking case the federal prosecutors against him so suddenly, the murder for hire thing didn't happen until after the K five hits with already under investigation for a couple of years, you know, he was charged with multiple counts of illegal trafficking. He's charged with multiple counts of illegally killing Haider violate teenager thinking back and That's already been underway. So, yeah, I mean, I was pretty neck deep in it, actually. So you know, being involved in the animal law world as I assume you are you knew about Joe exotic. You knew about what he was doing there and people in the in that milieu knew what he was doing. Is that right? Sort of robotic has long been, you know, on the top at the top of the list of the most notorious abuser than a goiter of big cats in the country, So you know, he all of the things that made for a great reality show that a lot of people who wanted to watch it during quarantine or the things that we had already known about been accustomed to you for one time, But I told people I live in New Orleans, you know? After you've seen that person you have painted themselves head in gold body caves and thinking on top of the stair on Bourbon Street. It's not there. No wow. Factor left any more. And the same is true for Joan thought it We've been after him for a long, long time. So you know, Chicago here has two world class ooze. We have Brookfield Zoo. I grew up very close. I could almost hear I actually when the wind was blowing right, you could hear some of the noises from the animals. And then we have Lincoln Park Su another beautiful city zoo, and I had never heard of a roadside zoo. I mean, I never understood that someone could just open up. Zoo without having certain regulations. Now tell me are there now regulations that would prohibit a Joe exotic from acquiring big, beautiful animals and putting them in a zoo? Like a menagerie of animals, capped by unqualified people who just collected animals that they want to open their doors in charge. If anybody can get us life in, um like from the U. S Department of Agriculture, which is the threshold entry point in order to get animals to the public and the application of the $30 That is really what hate you open a road pie deal. If you pass a pre lightened infection know that you're probably only going to be some feel about One infection per year in the U. S. D a very understaffed. It's notorious even in his own internal auditing department for failing to enforce applicable regulations, which are very, very low standards of care. Like Do the animals have water? Do they have food? Do they get veterinary care? Then they stand up, turn around and lie down on DNA with Russell, you know, And so in a, for example, like in a state like Illinois The law states that you know you cannot own. There can't be any private ownership of of the danger of exotic animals. Not great. Sounds like a prohibition. It is not really in practice because all it requires to circumvent that prohibition is to get that USDA license tell the federal agency that you have some future plan couldn't get an animal to the public. Pay your $30 half your initial infection and rock and roll and keep those animals so a lot of loopholes in victim lives on nine Good point, Illinois. But in fact, there are four things that don't have any regulation whatsoever. Existing federal laws are fraught with the pole that are really easy to circumvent. And that's why we've seen the proliferation of roadside menagerie that can operate on DH. The proliferation the pirate in particular. Let's go back to that this issue of the laws and changing the laws and all of that, but You're telling me you pay your $30 you go through these preliminary steps, and you can get a baby Tiger. If I wanted to do that, Carney if I just said, OK, I really like these cute little tiger's My my house. Pets from the DuPage animal shelter are just not doing it for me and I and I going to qualify and I get where do I go? And how much do I have to pay to get a tiger coming in? And how hard would it be for me to do that? You may have paid more and your tax deductible donation to the shelter for your rescue dogs. You have to pay to get a tiger. You know, I know that like I paid a few $150 donation to the shelter where I rescued my grumpy old 14 years ago. Um, you can get a tiger for a couple 100 bucks. They're even free, really, and people working on the Internet. Or using the network of roads by do that are going to dump animals month. They've become too big that once they reach that passed that threshold age where they can no longer be used for the extremely lucrative cub handling called pay to play photo op bottle feeding. Twin like tigers experience. Is that the right I do love you so lucrative. Um, once we're done with that, because the animal Barda financial and safety liability and nothing when they get dumped and feed about a pet trade so often recently there was a classified publication. It was a monthly publication and very mom and pop type of day. Anybody could have tried to it and you would be Lifting every single month. Like one ad, it was involving animal option. It was road five You're looking for or looking to dump animal. Whether they're tigers, lions, bears, monkeys, other primate, zebras, giraffes. You need it. You could find it in the animal finding God.
The inside story of college football's wildest week ever
"College football conferences in the country have postponed their upcoming fall seasons. The Big 10 which includes powerhouses Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State, along with a pack 12 with the likes of USC, and Lay won't be hitting the gridiron at all in coming months. A veces Eric Mollo has more on the loss of football what it means for college towns and how this season could have a devastating impact on those towns. Thiss Week officials and five of the nation's biggest college football conference is known as the Power five made their decisions and for many of those major college football programs. There won't be any football come the fall Big 10 and Pac 12 have postponed their football season's and several other college sports were also postponed. Officials cited health concerns specifically, the long term effects Cove in 19 could have on the hearts of young athletes. Head coaches expressed their disappointment. Think our players This is what they live for. And when you play football to such a small window, so it's very disappointed, very emotional, and they hoped there might even be a chance to play in the spring. Others in the power five conferences took a different approach the A C C, which includes powerhouse programs like Clemson in Florida State, along with the S E C with Ellis you in Alabama. Indicated they're staying The course for now, and the Big 12 is going to give it a go. They released a revised schedule this week. It's a historic and unprecedented decision. The Big 10 has not Mr season since it was created in 18 96 playing through the Spanish flu pandemic and two world wars. The absence of college football this year also portends a major economic fallout. According to ESPN, canceling an entire college football season for power. Five schools could result in each school, seeing an average loss of $62 million. Football revenue alone and canceling an entire college football season for power. Five schools could result in billions of dollars of revenue lost those estimates Conservative. They exclude potential losses in corporate partnerships and media revenue for local communities such as Ann Arbor, Michigan, and Tuscaloosa, Alabama, whose names are synonymous with the universities and college football programs They host The economic impact could be devastating. There is really nothing like Columbus on a false Saturday, but it just goes to show you the severity of this pandemic. City Council member Emanuel Rimi is the chair of economic development in Columbus, Ohio, home to the Ohio State Buckeyes. He's concerned for local businesses in the region. Power Five programs like the Buckeyes could collectively lose $303 million in revenue on Game day spending, according to ESPN. That has ramifications for the local economy. It's devastating to those campus bars and restaurants and retailers that rely on game day. Revenue from some estimates that up to 50% of their annual revenues come from game days anywhere, you might go after a game wraps up to shop and hang out. Might not survive. I think it would be unrealistic not to think that there could be closures as a result of missing out on the season. Dante Lucas, he helps to run one of those local businesses. He's the director of operations at Champs Sports Grill, a bar and eatery in State College, Pennsylvania. Home of the Big 10 school. Penn State. We really based our year upon probably about 10 weekends. Seven of them are football weekends in the fall when the football weekend in this spring So taking that away from us really, really, really hurts us chance is one of those local bars trying to survive the pandemic in the postponement of the fall football season marks just another financial blow. We weren't surprised. But it doesn't mean we're any less devastated. I just think it's been exaggerated and ATT. Least in our case. Ronald Philip Ellie is state colleges. Mayor, he says Penn State football brings in huge revenue for the town believes with a limited fan base and student body this fall Covert 19 It's still the town's biggest problem was my assumption, and I think the assumption of many others They would play without fans. The fans aren't here. They're the ones who patronize the local businesses. The issue of whether or not you play in my mind doesn't really mean that there's going to be a different economic impact. Think about the impact on municipalities like State College. We've lost a tremendous amount of money as a result of the Pan Derek For example, our parking revenues of dharam practically a $1,000,000 Sure for State college. They're hoping a Corona virus relief bill can help them get through this fall in that there's money for municipalities like us. Help us cover the costs of the pandemic. We need that money for these local towns of fall without college football is unprecedented and economically devastating, but their top priorities like that of every other town in America. Getting the fire is under control. But we can hope for us people follow health guidelines. And let's get this thing over with her back to reality and some sort of normalcy and 2021 not every business is likely to survive the cancellation of the fall season. These college sports town's air, hoping inventing together to fight the corona virus that many will be ableto weather the storm and survive until football comes back within six months to a year's time and stayed will bounce back. Stay college will bounce back champs will bounce back Reporting for perspective. I'm Eric Mollo, ABC News
The inside story of college football's wildest week ever
"College football conferences in the country have postponed their upcoming fall seasons. The Big 10 which includes powerhouses Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State. Along with a pack 12 with the likes of USC and won't be hitting the gridiron at all in coming months. Agencies Eric Mollo has more on the loss of football what it means for college towns. And how this season could have a devastating impact on those towns. Thiss Week officials and five of the nation's biggest college football conference is known as the Power five made their decisions and for many of those major college football programs. There won't be any football come the fall Big 10 and Pac 12 have postponed their football season's and several other college sports were also postponed. Officials cited health concerns specifically, the long term effects Cove in 19 could have on the hearts of young athletes. Head coaches expressed their disappointment. Think our players This is what they live for. And when you play football to such a small window, so it's very disappointed, very emotional, and they hoped there might even be a chance to play in the spring. Others in the power five conferences took a different approach the A C C, which includes powerhouse programs like Clemson in Florida State, along with the S E C with Ellis you in Alabama. Indicated they're staying The course for now, and the Big 12 is going to give it a go. They released the revised schedule this week. It's a historic and unprecedented decision. The Big 10 has not Mr season since it was created in 18 96 playing through the Spanish flu pandemic and two world wars. The absence of college football this year also portends a major economic fallout. According to ESPN, canceling an entire college football season for power. Five schools could result in each school, seeing an average loss of $62 million. Football revenue alone and canceling an entire college football season for power. Five schools could result in billions of dollars of revenue lost those estimates Conservative. They exclude potential losses in corporate partnerships and media revenue for local communities such as Ann Arbor, Michigan, and Tuscaloosa, Alabama, whose names are synonymous with the universities and college football programs They host The economic impact could be devastating. There is really nothing like Columbus ofall Saturday, but it just goes to show you the severity of this pandemic. City Council member Emanuel Rimi is the chair of economic development in Columbus, Ohio, home to the Ohio State Buckeyes. He's concerned for local businesses in the region. Power Five programs like the Buckeyes could collectively lose $303 million in revenue on Game day spending, according to ESPN. And that has ramifications for the local economy. It's devastating to those campus bars and restaurants and retailers that rely on game day. Revenue from some estimate that up to 50% of their annual revenues come from game days anywhere, you might go after a game wraps up to shop and hang out. Might not survive. I think it would be unrealistic not to think that there could be closures as a result of missing out on the season. Dante Lucas, he helps to run one of those local businesses. He's the director of operations at Champs Sports Grill, a bar and eatery and State College, Pennsylvania. Home of the Big 10 school. Penn State. We really base Ah, year upon probably about 10 weekends. Seven of them are football weekends in the fall. Everyone's a football weekend in spring. So taking that away from us really, really, really hurts us chance is one of those local bars trying to survive the pandemic and the postponement of the fall football season marks just another financial blow. We weren't surprised. But it doesn't mean we're any less devastated. I just think it's been exaggerated and ATT. Least in our case. Ronald Philip Ellie is state colleges mayor, He says Penn State football brings in huge revenue for the town but believes with a limited fan base and student body this fall Covert 19 It's still the town's biggest problem was my assumption, and I think I'm sure, many others. They would play without fans. The fans aren't here. They're the ones who patronize the local businesses. The issue of whether or not you play in my mind doesn't really mean that there's going to be a different economic impact. Think about the impact on municipalities like State College. We've lost a tremendous amount of money as a result of the Pan Derek For example, our parking revenues of Dharam practically a $1,000,000 Sure, State college. They're hoping a Corona virus relief bill can help them get through this fall in that there's money for municipalities like us. Help us cover the costs of the pandemic. We need that money for these local towns of fall without college football is unprecedented and economically devastating, but their top priority is like that of every other town in America. Getting the fire is under control. We can hope for is people follow health guidelines. And let's get this thing over with him back to reality and some sort of normalcy and 2021. Not every business is likely to survive the cancellation of the fall season. But these college sports town's air hoping and banding together to fight the Corona virus that many will be ableto weather the storm and survive until football comes back within six months to a year's time and stayed will bounce back Stay. College will bounce back chance will bounce back reporting for
Ethnic Studies: Born in the Bay Area From History's Biggest Student Strike
"Legislation earlier this summer that would require all incoming freshman at Cal State universities to taken ethnic studies class listener. Michael Variety asked our Bay curious team this question I've heard that there was actually a revolution in the Bay Area for an ethnic studies field. Is this true? And how did it happen? The short answer. Yes, it's true. Reporter assault A sonnet. Poor tells us how it went down during the longest student strike in US history. It was November of 1968. The US was 13 years into the Vietnam War. American soldiers hiking their way through the sweaty jungles of South Vietnam, searching for enemy Martin Luther King had been assassinated earlier that year, and the Black Panther Party demanded systemic change for black communities plagued by poverty and police brutality. That's what black students at San Francisco State wanted to bury. Proves to be a member ofthe last. This is Nesbitt Crutchfield. He started studying at San Francisco State in 1967 and soon joined the black student union. It was the very 1st 1 in the country. It was very clear to me that Black soon Union representative. Very progressive. Among black spoons at state among black students in the very but just a small percentage of black students went to SF State admission rates for minority students had dwindled down to just 4%. Even those 70% of students in the SF Unified School District for from minority backgrounds is a black person you expected for all intensive purposes. To be one of the very few black people in whatever classroom laboratory auditorium. The U. N was overwhelmingly white. Amidst that whiteness black students were hungry to study their own history. The black student union had been pushing the university to create a black studies department for nearly three years. But administrators resisted the idea. was an era of young people asking questions and want to transform their communities. Jason Ferreira is a professor in the Department of Race and Resistance at San Francisco State College of ethnic studies. And that impulse that That hunger to transform one's communities is actually what forms the basis of ethnic studies. It's around this time that Penny no. Okatsu was grappling with her own questions about race and identity. We want Asian Americans, then we were Orientals. An Oriental is a term that was imposed on us by the largest society, so starting to use the term Asian American was a way of taking back er. Our own destiny. Henny became a member of a student organization called the Asian American Political Alliance. It was just one of many ethnic student organizations popping up on campus and an early fall of 1968. These organizations banded together in formed a coalition, the Third World Liberation Front. And at that particular time, third world referred to the Non Aligned Countries are cultures in Asia, Africa and Latin America. It was synonymous with how we might use people of color today. English professor and Black Panther. George Murray was one of San Francisco state's most influential anti Vietnam organizers. Students loved Murray, but his outspoken politics didn't sit well with us of state administrators. The war in Vietnam is racist. That is the law that crackers like Johnson are using black soldiers and poor white soldiers of Mexican soldiers as dupes and fools to fight against people of color. In Vietnam. The board of trustees fired Murray over Comment like this one on November 1st 1968 5 days later, the black student union and the Third World Liberation Front joined together and went on strength in aspic, Crutchfield says Despite coming from different backgrounds, the strikers had a clear goal. I wanted to find out and be educated about ourselves, and we could not get that the nobody getting educated Initially, strikers did things like cherry bombs in toilets and check out tons of books at once in order to overwhelm the school's library system, But almost immediately, administrators invited police on campus. Jason Ferreira says they swarmed the school armed with five foot batons. Students responded by throwing rocks and cursing out the police. Police came down heavy hard, and they just began cracking skulls Strikers carried on anyway. Penny No. Okatsu was protesting on January 23rd 1969. In what many call the mass bust. Two lines of police came up and basically surrounded the over 500 people who were there for the rally and tracked all of the individuals who are part with that net police charged at students, Penny says it was one of the bloodiest and most frightening days of the entire strike. That was a military movement, literally a practice orchestrated military movement. Hundreds were arrested. Virtually all of the individuals arrested head Tio spend some jail time. There are real consequences to having participated in that event. It's up two more months. But eventually in March, administrators and strikers negotiated a deal after five months of protesting the school agreed to many striker demands. They promised to accept virtually all non white applicants for fall of 1969 and they agreed to establish a college of ethnic studies, the first in the country. Class is about communities of color. Ethnic studies is a way of embracing all of the cultures that make up not just this country, but with the world. And if we don't understand each other, how we're going to get along. I'm a solace on before the news For more details
What does the future of the U.S.-Canada border look like?
"I want to turn. Our attention says that the border where the number of covert cases now tops two million. That's more than double the cases in any other to the latest ANA corona virus, emergency Arizona and Texas setting new records while over the weekend Florida reported is biggest one day increase in cases pandemic started. or That? Why is that? What we have very strong to on the southern border as you know with Mexico and we had some troops in Canada, but I'll find out about that. I guess it's equal justice to a certain extent. To how do you feel? About opening up the US Canada, border right now. I, guess would be not crate. That would put you squarely with a majority of Canadians who tell pollsters their extremely nervous as they watch our friends and neighbors to the south handling this pandemic. But while the corona virus has made the difference between our two countries obvious. Truth is that we've been drifting apart for a while now. And there's no better place to see that then at the border. And in the public sentiment for keeping shot. But what does that mean? As the week, stretch into months with crossings close to all the non essential traffic. For the communities who exist right next to one another, but on opposite sides of a line they used to cross every day barely thinking twice. How has the enforcement of the US Canada border changed over the last two hundred, years. And, what will it look like the future? Because if there's one thing, the history of this border has shown us. That when things changed, they never really go back to normal. They evolve. Just like the Kennedy US relationship, the porter is always changing. Pandemic might spark the most dramatic shift get. Jordan Heath Rawlings. This is the big story. Alex, Bittermann, a professor at the Alfred State College of Technology at the State University of New York, is also the CO author of a piece in the conversation on the past present and future of the US Canada
University of Miami Announces Its Plan to Reopen in the Fall
"The university of Miami is announcing its plans to reopen this fall with classes once again taking place on campus the first time since the state colleges and universities were shut down in the corona virus outbreak classes are set to begin on August seventeenth and end on November twentieth the Friday before
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"There's nothing like a good You know Scottish air to calm the system right. Yep well and and you are. You got connected with the Violin Maker in Chelsea Jacob Real Heart and Jacob I wanted to check in with you about this is is this a fulltime lifelong career for you to make violence. I didn't I I'm not familiar with you. Work in that regard Yes Yeah I'm a professional violin maker. It's what I do full-time is is Making violins and I'm from Vermont and then I was living in Boston For a while and now I've moved back up to Vermont a couple of years ago so Yeah it's good to be back and Yeah wow and tell me a little bit about the violin making crafts by the way I gathered that that that makes you a Luthier. Is that right? Yeah yeah term. A lot of folks us to apply to makers of stringed instruments from what from what I understand and tell. How many violence do you make the course of a year and where do you typically sell them and tell me a little bit about the the work is normally proceeds. Yeah it's coming to make you know between between maybe eight and twelve instruments a year You know it's a slow process. It's you're starting with maybe ten pounds of wood and Over the course of of many many hours You know turning that into one pound instrument And you know there's maybe there's there's somewhere around seventy pieces of wood that I'll go into one finished Violin so it takes a long time There's also a lot of tension in an instrument string tension in the pressure of the strings pressing down on. The top of the violin is is A lot of weight and so You know string string. Tension can be around sixty pounds of tension. And so there's always this. There's this balance of trying to make the violin Light enough to vibrate and sound good and strong enough to hold together for centuries And that's kind of the whole name of the game with violent making And so kind of what is a violent typically made out of Yeah it's a good question so the top. The top plate is Bruce in European spruce that comes from generally like the northern Italian region And the back and decides and the Necker all made out of European maple which is Which is different from from. The American may bullets a little later in. It's a little more supple. Wow and and how did you? How did you learn this craft? What did you do to study it So there's A. There's a school down in Boston The North Bennet Street school and they teach they teach a variety of trade including jewelry making furniture making and restoration carpentry and They also have a violin making program And so I went there and I studied with the The master violin makers who who teaches at that program and and when you finish work on violin and get ready to sell it so you can make a living We're what's typically your your main market. Yeah that's a really good question So I I saw through Through shops at around the country And then I you know I also sell some to. Um You know directly to players You know being in Vermont. There's there's definitely a market for for players to some extent in Vermont But it's also you know be it. The nature of the business allows me to you know to make instrument and pack it up ship it at halfway across the country and You know sell it through through a shop. That's somewhere in a totally different location So do a lot of that as well and It's a balance between the two. So you have joined with Evan Bodak turned her funeral. Who's a bow maker and we're GONNA talk with Ebony in just a moment but the two of you I I I Owned by the way also could contributing this to this effort are is a violent shop down down in southern Vermont I. The name is escaping at the moment But they're they're contributing case four Baker Yup the the Baker Violin shop which is in Dumbarton isn't it or yes. Yup Okay and they are Contributing to this effort and the the the whole purpose is to raffle off the violin. The bow in the case and Raise money to provide a two hundred fifty dollar grants to musicians. Who apply for for this program. Evan Bodak Turner. Uh You you. Are you make bose. Is this a fulltime job for you? Yeah it is Sort of Niece within a niche. Yeah well we You know I'm always amazed at the variety of ways for monitor's make a living and I go I would never even would have thought of that but There we go. There's there's some right here in east my who was a bow maker by profession so you talk. We can talk. Yeah we well. Let's talk more about it. After a little break we gotta go here at the bottom of the hour. We do a little. Cbs News Minute couple of words from our sponsors and We'll we'll continue our con- conversation bow maker. Evan Abode Act Turner Emerson gale of the seven stars Arts Center and We'll we'll be back in just a moment Oh and we'll be back in just a bit of A. There's comfort in the familiar but when light presents us with something exciting we just have to embrace it with so many of our neighbors producing such wonderful products. We just have to show and tell the world come in and see for yourself. The old standbys alongside the new changes. Good the one thing that never changes is our commitment to making your visit a great experience the warrants store where funky friendly and almost world famous. It's the Dave Ramsey show. Wd We are back and guess are Emerson. Gale of the seven stars arts are based in Sharon Vermont. Also Jacob. Real heart is a violin maker. Based in Chelsea Vermont and Evan Bodak Turner makes bows for stringed instruments. In East Montpellier Vermont and three of them have joined together to create a violent and have gotten a donation of a case from the baker violent shop in Vermont and they are raffling off for the The the violin the case the bow for a fundraiser for musicians who are struggling even beyond what normally. It's not an easy living for a lot of folks who love music and want to want to do it at are doing it and oftentimes not getting rich at it but they are struggling to get by and these days. It's a lot worse because all the gigs of dried out. There's no no big social gatherings out there for going to listen to live music and boy that really puts a puts a crimp on anybody's anybody's music career and So anyway the three of these gentlemen are talking a little bit about the work they do and Evan Turner of East my future. You were talking about your bone making craft. Do I recall correctly that the the soft materials at nationally is that. Is that horse hair? Yeah that's right yeah it's Sort of been the choice for for bose since the very beginning and People have tried to come up with alternatives. And it's never never worked out. It's kind one of those things that the natural material is Is just the best choice and is that true? The strings as well on the instrument strings have had evolved a lot They started out as as got and and have moved towards synthetics and Out Medals and so But the but the bose actually are are still made with horsehair. I gather you keep a hurdle horses in east of my tales or something you got to your hair. No No The most of the hair comes from from China Mongolia Siberia Cold even even colder than here Makes for more elastic Even a strand of hair. Wow and is the is the hair. I mean now going off on a little bit of a of a Harry Tangent here no pun intended while okay and the But the horsehair he is that is that actually taken from the coat of the animal all over or or is it just as Taylor. What's the just where do you tell you need a minimum of thirty one thirty two inches of of hair to to Fill a bow Wow and so it's It's it has to be tail hair and as in each hair has to be thirty one or thirty two inches long. Yeah that's right. Yeah and it's actually. It's a big industry in in China to craft of of sorting hair Hair has a lot of Purposes both artistic and industrial And sorting hair for color and length and the hair. I buy is is highly sorted So that it's very even and consistent Both in its taper and its diameter one hair to the next and things like that but they're literally sorted one hair time. This is fascinating stuff. I gotta say I I. I had idea that there's so much to it. And and you've got to go to Asia to get the right stuff you know. I I guess and is that. Is that been the case from you? Know all the way back to the old Europe of violin makers Stratovarius and and people like that are where they getting their horsehair from Asia as well warden. I guess I can't say for certain but I suspect that Early on it was. It was not may probably not feasible Because just talking about the Fifteenth Century or sixteenth century when that would have been starting to be used But you know and I think also the the importance put in the bow really. Didn't come around until the until the nineteenth early nineteenth century when you make these. Are you making them purely for violins? Or do you may cello and viola bows and someone all violent family So vital cello and I also make double bass boats. Yeah and Are They I gather? They are like different sizes and so on right. Yeah that's right. So so as the instrument goes down in pitch the the mass of the string goes up And the more mass The string the more energy from the BOA TAKES. And so the more weight you need So typically violin bow starts around sixty grams And you add ten grams for the Yola and again for Cello. And then baseball's are all over the map there they're up in the one forties often. Wow and these grams are measuring. Just the hair right or no. In fact. The hair is sort of an incidental. It's like a it's like the oil in your car. It gets changed regularly If you're doing things right The stick and the frog and the button so the frog Is is the piece under your hands. Where the hair is attached The other end of the stick would be the called the head. That's where the other end of the hair is attached. And the Buckeyes. The adjuster tightens it. Did you say the frog also? Yeah so the frog is it's made of Ebony it's a Sort of a stands up off of the stick And and holds the hair. So that when you tighten the hair will tension tension the hair with the stick so as you can tell by my questions. I'm not a string player but I I if I were one of some kind of an annual budget for replacing the bow hair on my for my instrument from it's different for for every player dependent on sort of how How often they're playing and how picky they are about their about their sound. So so hair Is If you're playing. Professional player will often get as much as every three to six months Wow and But that said you have other players who.
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"Them and says no no no too much of a benefit to us like Plattsburgh Air Force base was closed and they developed something called the Brac the base realignment and Closure Commission least have another set of Isis? They'll brute said take a look at it and move things towards a decision. Didn't take the decision out of the Congress. His hands but it it really Tried to de Politicize. It as much as possible. I wouldn't call this a college realignment and Closure Commission I might call it. The higher education realignment or reconsideration opportunity or hero. That's something we can do but it has to be done right. It has to be done with enough resources Stewart. You have to look at the statistics. The finances and the statistics for enrollment on campus by campus spaces and look at trends. And whatever else these folks might wanNA consider so I think that's a longer term issue it in a slightly different approach than I think than a committee appointed by a governor or a committee of legislators And you know I'm just throwing that out there And Bruce. I I got an email during the break from a listener. You were mentioning before the break. That what we're going to need to do is a pretty serious injection of cash money into our higher education system to sort of keep it going while we figure out how it should be configured in the future and the the question from the solicitor. Crispy ends Waterbury. Basically asking Well taxpayers are already overburdened in Vermont. Where we're going to get this money. Well first of all I didn't say we. We should put an infusion of cash a high infusion of cash into the system if we're GONNA do a study I think we need to fund that Appropriately and that's much less money we do these studies. Sometimes we try to get Through it on the cheap so I wasn't saying we have to put a high infusion of cash into the system that's a decision that would have to be made later on and again I subscribe to the Vermont Model If we fund Financial aid high. Enough that here's a way of trying to find this kind of Zone they call it. The goldilocks zone where we can afford Our system but also You know not overly Spend money on it and I want you know. I know we're getting done soon but I really I think we need to be concerned with The what's happening outside of what they call. A Montpellier Burlington bubble I have a lot of friends that live all over the state and they think so much policy is developed from environmental stuff to post secondary education to healthcare that revolves around that mom. Peel Your Burlington. Bubble and particularly sitting in county and its institutions and You know in North Dakota Cass County. Were Fargo was was called. King Caswell in a way. We've got lowered chicken in here. A lot of my folks in Rural Vermont. Think Jitney County likes to Lord it over and everybody and and one thing we haven't mentioned is the University of Vermont In it's all about the state colleges and I found a statistic the other day that just snowed me and in the fall of two thousand ten and I got this for the. Uvm website in state enrollment for monitor's attending University all their different divisions five thousand. Three twenty four By the fall of two thousand nineteen it was four thousand one eighty two so a loss of one thousand one hundred and forty to Vermont as well out of State. Enrollment went from eight thousand to thirty two nine thousand three sixty six A considerable gain and Also we forget that in nineteen sixty six total enrollment. Uvm was ten thousand one forty six and now and when the fall of two thousand nineteen it was thirteen thousand. Five forty eight and A lot of that growth has been Out of staters come in who are probably paying a lot more and Vermont irs. Not Going for whatever reason I think we have again. What's focus on people and and we also have to focus on financial aid policies. The universities themselves they have this science called the enrollment management which is strange algorithms that enable universities tweak things to try to maximize their Revenues get kind of student body. They need and provide as little financial aid as possible. It sounds like cynical stuff but That's the reality. We got criticized. Yep Go ahead Dave I I hate to. I hate to cut you off because this is interesting stuff but I must.
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"Two Thousand Twenty and once again we are going to focus a significant part of the show today on the proposal now withdrawn to close three campuses of the Vermont State College System and the What will happen now The sort of follow up Last just a week ago today. Jeb spaulding. The Chancellor of that system put out a proposal to close the two campuses of northern Vermont University Lyndon Johnson and then also close the Vermont Technical College. What's been their main campus in Randolph Center? Drew a lot of consternation in criticism and general unhappiness with a wide swath of Vermont. People people graduates of the colleges students at the colleges certainly staff and faculty. We're looking at possibly five hundred job losses and And Community members. Who really rely on these colleges in small towns as Lynchpins of the local regional economies so The Chesler Jeff's falling withdrew that proposal after he came under heavy fire and now the question is the question sort of goes to the legislature about how to manage the future of these state colleges and we are going to have a key legislator on this morning Senator Phil Ba- Ruth is the chair of the Senate Education Committee and has been right in the thick of the at least initial discussions here in the first few days since that That grenade got tossed by the chancellor. So we're going to be talking with him in the first half hour in the second half hour we're going to bring bring in Bruce Post Bruce's a longtime vermonter who has served in a variety of capacities in government As a doing research in policy development for people like former governor Richard stelling former late. Senator both lead actually brought. Stafford and others In in in frequent education policy so he is very familiar with a lot of the history surrounding higher education funding. And we're going to talk with him in the second half hour of the program later on in the second hour of today's show we're going to bring in three folks were involved in an effort to help out for. Maas musicians Many of whom are really struggling these days because all their gigs of dried up you. Nobody's gathering in in public venues. We typically go to hear music and therefore There's no work for these folks and there's an effort underway by a Luthier. That's someone who makes stringed instruments a maker to make a violin and then raffle it off with proceeds going to help some of our musicians in in Vermont so that's that's and positive Activity folks are engaging in in the face of this corona virus pandemic and. I just wanted to wrap the week up on Sort of a positive note here. So we're going to have that conversation in the second hour of today's program but first let's get ready to with. Senator Phil Ruth who I believe is on the line with With me this morning. Good Morning Senator. Good Morning Dave. Can you hear me all right? I can hear you just fine and I thank you very much for joining me so I think I've got the basic facts and figures of this state college situation. Correct as so far as I got into the minute little intro there Tell me if I'm if I'm wrong about anything but I I gather that it's now in your In your fellow legislators administration officials hands to To sort of lead take the lead develop a plan. Try to get these schools in shape for a future in which they're likely will be at least a foreseeable future in which there will likely be fewer students around. Yeah I just would only change one thing in what you said. And that is We did not the legislature did not vote to take this decision away. From the trustees. We prevailed upon them to postpone it and to work with us on a more thoughtful measured approach. And they've agreed to do that but we haven't so far stepped in and legally taken the responsibilities. It's just now a voluntary partnership I would put it okay. and so the legislature and your committee in particular gator will be. Will you be sort of if there is legislation developing out of this? Let me back it up further and ask you. I do expect that there. There will be legislation developing to sort of encapsulate. A plan to to go forward with whatever needs to happen with the state colleges. I would say no for two reasons one. Is that the time line on. This is going to be incredibly short for what we're talking about. Which is an attempt to come up with a new creative plan that could perhaps say one two or three of these residential campuses So the the clock is running in a really really crazy way. Jeb spaulding I think everyone agrees rushed plan out not specifically to disenfranchise students faculty alumni community members. But because they were facing such crushing death so Cove at nineteen has accelerated that so they are looking at a twenty five million dollar deficit for the coming year. They are looking at Perhaps without a they wouldn't be able to meet payroll in June. So it's a it's a very very Rapid Window that we're working in with Cova. Nineteen the legislature is operating. But we're operating at a fraction of the speed that we normally do so those two things together make it very unlikely that this would be dealt with in statute or in a bill. So what? We're what we're thinking about is a couple of different things First of all the. The trustees gave us a set of numbers. That are alarming. And may well be the actual state of affairs. But you know in these things you usually want another set of eyes you want to verify financial situation I so our Senate leadership has been talking with the treasurer for Vermont. That Pierce and the question is does. She have the bandwidth in the next couple of weeks. Maybe in the middle of covert nineteen to help us verify that financial state of affairs. That's that's the first thing I hope that She'll be able to do that help us but you know she has a full plate as we all do but we will be getting some kind of second opinion on the numbers Then beyond that I think rather than having a legislative committee like mine try and four or five months to come up with detailed plan we would be looking to bring in and put to work some very highly specialized professionals people who make their living assessing the viability of these kinds of institutions and.
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"Show on Wd FM and am one of the repeat that programming. Note that I mentioned before the break Go to skied and other top state officials have been holding. Newt regular daily are actually three times a week media briefings Eleven o'clock on on Mondays Wednesdays and Fridays and wd has been carrying them. Live on our air and we're going to continue that Today there is a A briefing scheduled with the governor Health Commissioner Mark Levin is usually there are other top state officials who will talk about what their various agencies are doing in response to the covert nineteen crisis. We have With us this morning on the day Graham Show We have three students Agenda is a student at Northern Vermont University Johnson. Luise Willer Just finished up her. Two Year degree at Vermont Technical College Last year and is now at the University of Vermont and as part of the state set to two plus two Agricultural Education Program at Patrick Winstrom is a is a student at at One of my university Linden who has launched a petition drive. We're going to be finding out for Patrick about that. And just a couple minutes but I wanted to go to a caller who has been patiently waiting in that as Morgan. I believe from another enough Eric. Good Morning Morgan. Good Morning And I'm so happy here my friend Lou on the radio she is A wonderful example of what comes out of the programs here. So I'm actually sitting here on campus now Randolph Center Getting the Internet. Because I don't have connectivity at home and it's snowing up here on Earth Day I've heard mentioned. I heard a lot of mentioned in the last hour. And I have heard over the last few days highlighting Envy you originally being A school for educators and I just WANNA put. Vtc ended up mix because in one thousand nine hundred eighteen sixty six. Excuse me It was founded as the Randolph enormous. Show then later became an actor school Kind of because of the state of the state needed more aggies home And then the school started to evolve. It's programming with nursing and highway engineering and actually A funny little historical things from on campus here is the soil. Civil Engineering lab that labs base was originally built during the Interstate when the interstate was being built three Vermont so that lab then left for the college to utilize and many many highway engineers and be trans. Employees and structural engineers have come out of the programs here that have literally built our state So I just I just wanted to highlight some of the historic significance of this campus and actually. I'm looking at the ADMIN building right now which used to be the old dairy bond so there's just so much Rich history on this campus. That even consider consolidating the Wilson campus. That was once a strip mall is It's a it's offensive to me as a as a proud vermonter. I'm a third generation resident That it would even think to be feasible to sustain the offerings. That is so Proud of and so recognized for and I also just I'm looking at the state agricultural Lab Facility that was just built. There was a big process in choosing that location And as much as it would be. It's an easy thing to say. We'll just close up Randolph Center. Campus that facility. That's labs -bility relies on the central Heating System. That serves the whole campus here. So there's a lot of infrastructure aspects that are completely being overlooked That you know. I don't see how they plan on selling or re re retrofitting the college campus for something else whereas the Wilson campus if anyone's ever been there back to lend itself to many more opportunities besides college campus. Okay well Morgan I appreciate the call. You You raise some good points here and Thank you for. Thank you for Wayne and Let's go back to our panel here if I could and and ask I'll I'll start with Louise's To really or sounds like you are a friend of Morgan's and I wanted. I wanted to check in with you Louise and just Ask you to reflect a little bit on what she was saying about the The kind of history and uniqueness VTC. Yeah thanks again. She's always coming up with good facts and I'm glad that she was able to weigh in. I was wondering what she was thinking. Actually while we were doing this Yeah Morgan raise a lot of really good point Vtc is a really old school and it has a lot of rich history So that is a aspect to think of. I think Vermont and we are proud of our history. I know that we can't be thinking millions of dollars into saving history if it's not giving back but I think that does give back to our community in a big way. She talked about the infrastructure. And how important that was and how maybe williston would be easier to transition towards a different sort of infrastructure then the campus was and. I definitely agree with that on the other thing that I like to think about that. She just said to is that. Governor Scott is all about trying to get the workforce into Vermont and I think that technical college does a great job in creating highly skilled employees for work that needs to get done in our state. Keep it running and to keep us viable on the national scale. Yeah I actually I'm I am quite curious about that because I know that many of our employers at least before the Cobra nineteen crisis. The sort of big news from the business sector for the last couple of years seemed to be that there were a lot of employers who frankly were kind of going begging for for workers and And and and now and here we had these institutions that Especially the technical education you get at VTC I know that a lot of employers have relied on Relied on the On on that Campus therefore a pipeline of people coming in to work for them and so this is obviously important aspect In fact we had We had a Someone from the Herald Randolph In the first hour of the program This morning talking about the the some of the local businesses that have high that have grown up around the ability to hire from. Vtc's so that's A. That's a very interesting and important astro. Almost all the programs has either a ninety nine or one hundred percent job placement rate in their field within a year of graduation which I don't think many other schools can both that sort of statistic I know that for myself. I've had people try to convince me to drop out of VM. Go work for them I know that my classmates have had similar experiences and I know that other students that graduated and didn't go on to more education have pretty much all found jobs in their field and are doing really. Well that's great Let me let me bring in Patrick Wikstroem. Who is a student at At Envy You Linden because Patrick I understand that you are actually have launched a petition drive of to try to generate More public interest in this idea preserving These campuses. What can you tell us about that? Yeah so This morning we actually past forty thousand signatures on it and I launched it Wednesday so a week ago and four zero thousand Yup forty. Wow now we have that milestone this morning and has gained support from all over students faculty staff families and not just them but you know regular everyday Vermont or in the state and And the point of the statistics which really draw attention from the legislature and the governor's office To to help the system out with With deficit this year as well as you know adequately funding it for future years because what better investment can Can come up with. Then you know we just look at Northern Vermont University alone you know. Only a few million dollars go to that campus but it has a conservative economic impact on Vermont of over one hundred over one hundred million dollars and I don't know any other state investment you know across the board that comes up with That gives that much return investment into their communities and serves vermonter can brings young people like myself to the state you know last summer. I I fell in love with Vermont. Too Much I'd say and and work over the summer in Vermont. I bought my car in. Vermont. I mean you know. Bring young people to save. We spend our money in the state we pay you know the state taxes and and And it really helps bring in that revenue to the community especially in rural Vermont. Who are who are definitely struggling Ever since the recession. I've Patrick wicks from. I wonder speaking of taxes I heard one caller yesterday suggested Vermont might consider a something like a one penny increase in the sales tax going from six to seven cents on a dollar and and take that a new revenue dedicated to the state college system. Would would you have any objection to that kind of increase in sales tax here in Vermont? I can't really speak to Vermont necessarily because I live in Texas On on how they view taxes. But I can tell you that I live in a city called Mansfield and it's account called tarrant county and Every year on our property taxes we pay thirteen per one hundred dollars value of your property to Goto Tarrant County College. Which is our community college. Which has a very similar programs to two plus two program where it's a it's a community college and get your associate's degree whether it'd be in you know any any it's more of a trade or or if you want to go and save some money before going onto your Basler's at any of the major universities here in Texas and And actually I used this college to To get some of those to get some of those baseline credit before transferring in to In view for my bachelors. Like focus more on my bachelor's degree and And and it it helps retain people in our area and And it has so many students that goes to Personally this is. This is an investment that most people in our county view of positive And and I can't really speak to Vermont but it was kind of odd to me seeing that it wasn't a direct funding source to the State College System in any way and that was just a simple allocation from the state outta their out of their budget interesting Let's bring in another listener on those calling in Chris from watery. Good Morning Chris Dave through so I'm happy So as a board member here in town Dealing with not only the the school budget but also our town budget I think probably from college. Dan Boy without seeing their budget and how they operate The key number one underlining problem burden for any operation of any of these institutions is is staff pay administrative costs Pensions benefits And and until they're willing to acknowledge that problem. I don't see how they're going to ever get out this and they can't you know. In most cases they push the envelope on. It seems as if the colleges pushed the envelope on this issue for too long and now they're crying to the state for more money because they basically drained their own revenue source Being a small businessmen as well You know I have to kind of weave in Bob with with people's ability to pay for projects and I have to lower my my hourly rates or In some cases I can make a little more here or there And I think it's time that You know the colleges look at Whether or not they're willing to make some sacrifices and do that In to combine all the colleges in one I think from what I understand has been suggested or bring you'll vm into the picture as maybe a stronghold To help out with these other colleges unless you can stop the bleeding. You know you'd be Amel just be a host and you'll drink them dry too. Yeah I gotTa Tell You. I was Chris. My impression is From you know knowing folks who've worked for the state colleges over the years That People who are teaching there.
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"Hour. That's true for update yet. Whatever you know again yup product key. I wonder what happens with people who are in the sales business because sales is such a contact oriented profession It's all about relationships and think relationships through the same on the phone or on skype or facetime or zoom as they are face to face and I think you need to have that personal contact in so many industries and perhaps especially in sales. So it's going to be interesting to see how all this shakes out. Yeah that is for sure. Hey I really appreciate you joining me for a few minutes before and it hasn't been face to face Peter but It's good talking with you anyway so I appreciate it. Thanks for having me on by the way Normally a reporter would go out and drive. You know maybe hundreds of miles a month to to do stories and such in the last six weeks I've driven two hundred twenty miles. One hundred twenty of those were for three trips to the dentist which is a forty mile round trip for me and the last story. I actually went out to was my first dentist trip what I actually talked to my dentist. I story we did back back in March. I mean you know otherwise The stories that you'll hear me doing today with interviews and such. We're all done by phone or skype. So goes but a story about your dentist. That's something you can sink your teeth. Forget about it I would say that. Thanks again Peter. Nice chat with you. Thank you so much and have a day you too. Hey in this next segment of the Dave Ramsey show here W. Devi FM and am. I wanted to to Introduce Three students at The three campuses that are Threatened with closure under the proposal of launch last week by the Chancellor Jeb spaulding of Remond State College system and We have Incorrect beyond the pronunciation here from From messing it up at all but We have finally a Chinda of In Northern Vermont University. Johnson is that right Fried Healy. I'm sorry yes right okay. Great thank you very much for joining me Also on the phone. This morning we have We have Louise Her willer She is Actually a student at the University of Vermont participating in something called the two point two plus two program That a program in which students can go to Vermont Technical College in Randolph Center for their first two years. It's an agricultural program. And they finish up a bachelor's level studies at University of Vermont of course Burlington and I believe Louis Wilder is on the phone with us this morning. Is that right Louise. Hi Yes. Good Morning Dave. Thank you very much for joining us and Do we have Patrick. Wick's theorem I think from from from Almost did it again. It's not letting college it's northern Vermont. University Dash Linden Good Morning Patrick. Thank you very much for coming on as well. Good Morning. Thank you for having me. And so three students from each of the cat one from each of the campuses of our of the State College system which are actually threatened with closure now and I'm going to start With helium into who is a student at the Envy you Johnson. Campus and is originally from Africa. We're we're we're in Africa. Are you from originally of Healy So I was born in Congo Vera but because of the wall we had to move to Tanzania so we live our lives carsoup. Yes and and you did you come to the United Sates To go to Johnson. Did you go to envy you Johnson or or had you been here for a while before you enrolled so my dad was the before our was yell at for Ats before we came to America. So he has emptied so he moved us here. All of us and stuff I mean and then I after that I came to as Lille so I did all my school at MVP. What and what are you studying at N. view so I'm a senior now? I'm doing three majors. I people major. I am doing apology and doing theology and criminology major. Wow you're busy student. And that is that's quite a load. Tell me what in what year you in. When would you expect to graduate? Well you know what's the guy this year before the notice? Oh my God listen. We're supposed to graduate this year. This was my senior year. You know what they hear that we all are waiting for the big time of school and are are you going to be able to graduate or is that really is. Have we seen that kind of go away now with this whole shutdown interv- Corona virus situation? I am telling you the this was supposed to be one of my happiness. Fear of my life but who knows everything went shut down. You know like we are there. The school taught us that befall. We knew the schools close. We had an email the seniors. We may come back next year and do the graduation but I use. I don't think we would have thought that that is a that is a tough situation And and you know I just hope it It can work out for you somehow or another. I mean clearly don't have spent you know three and a half years or whatever You're going through a college education program only to have the rug pulled out from you This late in the game. That would be terrible. So let's hope that we can straighten it out. Let me go to a Louis Her willer. Who is as I mentioned? A student at the University of Vermont now was a student at At for my technical college Louise are you from from Vermont. Originally we used to wilder not hear much from a much from Louise. Right now So let's hope that she can rejoin us soon How about Patrick Wikstroem? Are you still on line less? I hear him excellent you you are. I we spoke before you told me you are from Texas. Originally that right yeah. I was born in Louisiana and moved north Texas when I was real young and now I I'd like to preferably be in Vermont. You know going to go into school right now. But under the current circumstances I'm back home in Texas. I see I I gather. You're not having snow down there though today. We are up here. No we're thunderstorms today An Patrick.
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"What but our demographics are not there and the kids aren't showing up in the numbers they used to. What do you do about that? Well that's interesting. Of course we've always been lacking in basic skills and trays I know not seem bias. I've had interns to the to here at Archer and spend a real in a lot of other farms in drafting a services and things like that have utilized but Really I if you look at. The percentage of those three schools highway the amount of residence utilizing the schools is the greater percentage and even university. So passability sometimes does cost money and Are we really looking at the program so we could maximize was a need? Let me bring in. Let me bring Zoe New Marco. Back into the discussion. We've been neglecting us. Oh I apologize and And and ask you In terms of the practical skills that seem to be the more the focus of of technical school than than say a liberal arts campus. Do you feel as though are? Are you hearing from people in your community that those could end up being pretty badly neglected if if VTC went away you know? I I so I heard from the executive assistant of VTC president pop molten Late last night and she said it's really too soon to say Which programs Would be moving to the WILLISTON CAMPUS. In which would be continued remotely As she said there's sort of exploring alternative options right now. I'm so it's hard. It's hard to predict that what I hear from students for sure is concerned that the really hands on technical skills Might be lost without the labs that are currently president. Randolph campus But I think I think like many things about this proposal too soon to know for sure. Yeah our producer here Who's running the booth at the radio station? This morning told me a while ago that We got a call from somebody. Who's a fan of the nursing program? Vtc and Was saying that. It's a terrific program with with an excellent facility there in Randolph Center. I know they do some nursing. Training in Williston to is the is the thought that all of that will go to Williston on. You know I haven't gotten a definite answer from about that. I don't know if there is a definite answer about that. Among sort of administrators at this point I know the college does have several nursing Sort of Facilities around the state. But I I don't know what that would look like I see. Okay well And and and Greg Stefanski. I'm wondering in terms of the the the folks who The the folks who are coming out of Johnson and And then taking roles right there in the local community. That's a fairly common thing isn't it? I mean lot of people. I remember hearing back when I was in high school. P P a college in a region where you might WanNa work. Because that's such a pattern for folks to come out of a school that actually going to populate the the professional jobs in In that local community right there even if they're from somewhere else absolutely and and I think there's a combination of you know were fortunate is in many places in Vermont to have Rivers and Mountain and hiking trails and and and Rockwall climbing. So you know you get people coming out one of the scenarios. I hear most often people come out because they enjoy you know the community for the recreation and then they hear. Oh we got a university here. I was thinking about going back to school. So and you know I wanted to mention a quick Data points for about two weeks old. 'cause it's difficult to get really current unemployment numbers but the number in inland oil county of From about two weeks ago with about fifteen percent we'd been hovering at about two or three percent unemployment rate three years. And now we're at fifteen percent and you know the crisis is GONNA IS GONNA force us all to revisit our priorities and interests and explored you opportunities. And so I got to interrupt you right there greg because We are about out of time. Unfortunately I'd love to go on but I WanNa thank you thanks. Defense Give Johnson for joining me Zoe. Marco the Herald Randolph. Senator Joe Bending and John Kaczynski John Casse go with the Burke Area Chamber of Commerce and I.
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"Their Human Trails Association of Kingdom Trails Association is how depending upon seasonal workers and they've also hired Graduates that head up different Aspects of running that particular business there which attracts one hundred. Forty thousand visitors per year to the region Yeah that's been a booming part of your economy up there that tourism and and and I must say I I knew that Lyndon Lyndon state was In Law had its fingers. I'm sorry envy you Linden and its fingers in old habits. Die Hard. I I tell you Envy you. Linda Nana's figures that a lot of that a lot of that up there you know. Yeah I also wanted to mention you. Were talking about the The original role of these schools especially and The Old Johnson State College Lyndon State College as teachers colleges and Interesting you mentioned that because as you were doing so an email popped into my queue here from Jerry. Tillotson who is Is Teacher in public schools. We know Mike. My kids went to school there and had him as a teacher and Jerry rights schoolteacher who receive master's and teaching certification from Johnson State. I tell my students who are interested in going into teaching the Johnson State would give them more bang for the buck. Johnson has a good reputation in teacher. Training very affordable. I hate to see us. Excuse me lose that resource and so that I mean there's another role that these schools you know. Historically that's the way they started was I used to call them. Normal schools will be back in the day and they were teaching. They were training. Vermont's teachers and still have an important role in that in that area of of Education Vermont. So it you know these. These schools are Are just have bigger profiles than you really think about. I think is unless you really pause to consider all of their different programs and so on we do have a A caller on the line has been waiting patiently And that is Forbes from East Greenwich Good Morning Forbes. While are you hi classic We got to remove the economics Discussion here from the actual worth wildness This these institutions were originally set up for purpose. And I believe Dean Davis was involved in that Quite strongly so that we have We have obviously an objection. I mean object to to fill and it's interesting as to how institutions were originally set up and for what purpose and are. We possibly usurping that purpose. Yeah I think you raise an interesting point there Forbes all Oh let me let me ask you. You know these these schools Really kind of boomed VAC. I'm figured during the seventies and When the baby boom came up and there were tons of young people around all all chomping at the bit to go to college and And back then it was as you know the sort of up and coming thing in America you know Generation before hours remembered A lot of a lot of The folks didn't go to college but That postwar generation was the I had the GI bill. And so on. We're really became kind of a thing and many many Many many states around the country built huge university systems in college systems to accommodate The this this absolute boom in students you know the baby boom basically and now the baby boomers become whatever Kinda bust. I don't know what but our demographics are not there and the kids aren't showing up in the numbers they used to. What do you do about that? Well that's interesting. Of course we've always been.
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"From Radio Vermont. It's the Dave Graham show on. Wd It's your show about the people places and the issues that matter the most to you. Now here's your host Dave Graham. Good morning you're on. It is Wednesday April the Twenty Second Fiftieth Anniversary of Earth Day and we always Glad to hear that folks are out there observing that But Today we're talking mainly about this continuing controversy over the possible closure of the Vermont State Colleges and we've got a good lineup of folks to help us do that this morning. We're going to be talking with Zoe New Marco. She's a reporter with the Heraldo Randolph. And going to be talking about economic impacts in fact the whole first hour would be devoted to economic community impacts of the possible closures of these three Vermont State College Campuses. So we knew Marco's I mentioned is with the Herald ran off. She'll be talking to us about the impact in the in the area around Vermont Technical Technical College which is located in Randolph Center. A similar theme. Greg's defense key referred to as the mayor of Johnson courses a town with a select board. So that's kind of an unofficial title. But he's been around that community for a long time has ties to The former Johnson state college now known as the Northern Vermont University Johnson campus. And Greg will be joining us to talk about community impacts in that area of low Memorial County Joe Benning State senator from Caledonia. County actually has Lives in has a law practice right there in Linden Ville and he is going to be talking to us about the Economic Community impacts in the northeast kingdom if that campus of envy you were to close Joe's only going to be able to be with us for the first half hour senator banning that is and he'll be replaced in the in the Caledonia County Chair By John Kaczynski. Who's with the Burke? Area Chamber of Commerce John will be joining us in the second half hour this morning. Later on we're going to be talking to students about the impacts that they might feel from the from the possible closure of their campuses Fight Helium Chinda is a student at Envy you Johnson Luise Willer Actually just recently graduated from the two year program at at Vermont Technical College She's an agricultural and is in in this two two plus two program where they after two years at VTC they go and finish up at uvm in Burlington and She's there now and we'll be talking to us about the VTC impacts on students if that campus where to close and then the Patrick Wikstroem in the second hour will be with us also. He's a student. He's he came all way from Texas to go to the meteorology program. Nationally repeated in meteorology program at At Envy You. Linden and He's not a happy camper right now. The thought that all those Travels East might be a to a campus in the near future will no longer exist so We'll be. It's a good Large lineup today. Let's get right into it with our I three guests here And I do. We have Senator Bedding we don't have senator banning yet but we expect him to be to be joining US shortly. let's see let's go to Greg. S Defense Key. Who IS In Johnson and Good Morning Greg. Thanks for joining me morning. How are you doing all right? So talk to me. A little bit about The role that what used to be called Johnson State College Historically has played in that community in that part of Loyal County Just in terms of being you know a source for Folks just to staff a wide variety of local services and and and Just as its role in the community. And what would happen to Johnson if If this campus suddenly we'RE EMPTY. Wow that that's the big question. How long is this radio show? Well we'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA WE'RE GONNA devote the first hour to the economic and community impacts these possible closures We You're you're sharing the time with folks Lyndon Lyndon area and from by the Randolph area. So that's that should give you a good sense. How's that thank you and thank you for vitamin to be part of the show You know I I think you know. Obviously we're talking about a a you know a now. A university I landed in Vermont about twenty years ago. grew up just outside of. Detroit lived in Chicago And then kind of on a whim. landed in Johnston Vermont And one of the things that you know that drew me here was knowing that there was. You know a college in the community At the time I was about ten years into working But wasn't quite sure if I was doing the work that I wanted to do and was meant to do and so Knowing that there was a college town At least awareness that you know if I wanted to pursue some other opportunities That those might be available and so You know as an institution of higher learning. I think to lose that kind of a a resource in your community Means several things It means one. That people who Are Outside of the community who are outside the state of Vermont In other states or even in other countries Might not consider you know this. This community in this state as a destination And and and even for young people who are here You know my my son Who's twenty two now He did his senior high school as part of the Early College Program. at envy you and You know several of his friends who've grown up in this area either started and right once it right went right to envy you or maybe explored other. You know universities and colleges and other places and then came back. You know to envy you so I know that there's a big concern. You know in our state about young people leaving and not returning well you know having a college in the university and having options for that kind of higher learning I think is is one of our best ways to ensure that young people will stay or if they decide to explore and check out some other places that they know they have a place to come back to That still gonNA give him that opportunity for learning new skills. Picking up skills in in education. That might help them pursue employment opportunities And so I think there's some real practical connections there but also having an entity like northern university In your community also just sends a message that you value learning that you value growth That you value innovation and boy. We're not in a time. You know y you know where couldn't use those things even more And so I think it also sends a message to young people. You know that you you know. We were concerned about them leaving. But what are the message isn't what are the ways that we're saying? We want you to stay here. We want you to be here. And we want you to be a part of our Communities I think one of the ways that let me just let me go to the youngest I think among this crew here we have on the show right now. Who IS Zoe New Marco Young reporter with the Herald of Randolph. And Zoe you grew up in Vermont. Correct yeah I grew up in Rochester. Might just over the mountain just over the mountain and and you are now How long have you been at the Herald there a little over two years full-ti- it I started as an intern when I was eighteen And then took a few years. I see okay and so I in in terms of the I'm sure you know number folks who who have been recently students at Vtc gone out into the community and made their made their place within that part of Orange County and and really the larger State of Vermont But Talk to me a little bit about what the place would feel like without Vtc there and ran off center. Yeah I mean I think You know my brother. Vtc student. He's a senior this year I certainly know lots of people Who've taken classes there I think Cow My thoughts. And what I keep hearing from people in the town is. We don't know what it would feel like but it would probably feel pretty different. It's too soon to really know for sure. I mean I- I utilize that the military is at Vtc shape our gym up the hill personally and go apple picking the orchard So things like that would certainly be felt by the community but a number of businesses also higher Both current students at BTC and graduates right in our area and so That sort of employee base Wouldn't wouldn't be as local and might be significantly harder to find if the campus weren't here is Is Ran off pretty heavily populated by people who work at the college. Or do you is your sense that they are more. You know the commute from farther away. Generally you know that's something I've been trying to find out over the last few days and I don't have a clear sense of that I know certainly there. There are some employees Here in the area but I I don't have a sense of what percentage are commuters. I understand you're reading about the proposed closure of the campus for tomorrow's edition of the Herald off into so. So what are business people in town telling you about What it would mean for them if they if they suddenly did not have this pipeline from the local campus on yeah I think similarly on you know I spoke to Bill McGrath. Who's the chief technical officer for? Led Dynamics and he is a VTC graduate himself. He used to serve on the board of Trustees And has also been a staff and faculty member there So he's he's pretty tied to BTC on and he said the company currently employs about twenty Q. graduates and students VTC including himself So that's I think he said that about a third of their workforce and Yeah I mean that's one impact and I spoke to the select board chair. Trini brassard last night and she. She's actually Among about twenty or so people who are meeting today to try and develop a Sort of work groups to look at. What the impacts to the community would be an possible alternative proposals on in that Group I know includes many more business owners Particularly those who have been involved in getting the manufacturing engineering program up and running To try and get employees from program would bring in Senator Joe Benning from Caledonia County You are somebody who Do Do I recall correctly that you actually came to Vermont to attend to Linden. Stay in what was then living in college. That is true. And and and you are somebody. We kind of a classic case of of Somebody WHO's attracted Vermont? to By its higher ED system Ended up living here and making your career here. Now of.
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"Are Mitzi Johnson. The speaker of the house in Vermont and Tim asked the president for Tehran. Senator main subject today is the future of the Vermont State College System and Speaker Johnson. I I want to ask you if I could Have a basically a shrinking system our demographics as you mentioned before the break are in in Are Just you know? The the numbers of some of young people living in Vermont are shrinking and So that means that the The numbers of people who can be attracted to any college whether it's Some of the private colleges You know we've seen the closure of several of those. I and now the state colleges are we are we. Should we make a plan? That that actually does downsized this system. Should we be thinking about maybe not an immediate closure but a near-term closure of one or more of these campuses? You know we're we're not gonNA what we're sitting around with higher education all over the country is that You know we're needing to to right size system we have. We've got a number of closures within the last couple of years. with You Know Green Mountain College and Saint Joseph's and You know southern Vermont Marlboro. And so we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA have to put some careful thought into what Vermont students need What can make us different to attract more more students and more families And more more out of State College Students And we need to. We need to ask ourselves I think some pretty hard questions. About what do Nontraditional Vermont? Students need in terms of education affordability logistics and programming. And so I. I don't know what all the answers are. I don't think it's feasible to Continue a system in the the status quo Even if we even if we did some sort of merger But I but I you know if I had all the answers I I would have included them in memo that Tim and I put out on Sunday so I still trying to figure all that out. Yeah it's it's not an easy Not An easy conundrum. Let's bring in a caller. I believe we have a professor from Linden on the Linden Envy you Linden on the line with us Alexander Zhukov is Is Calling in good morning.
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"And primarily the the. Everyone was just taken so much. By surprise the suddenness of the announcement the really dramatic Impact it would have on the three communities and the students faculty and staff who worked there so on Sunday morning speaker Johnson and I Drafted a statement which we issued and sent to the State College Chancellor and Board of Directors Trustees telling them that they should not vote on Monday on any reconfiguration plan that to do so would effectively be an insult to all the impacted people and that Delaying that folk would give us time to think about not only Whether there are indeed any other options whether there is a way to develop a bridge budget so that whatever the reconfiguration may look like in the future gives us time to transition there rather than Immediately pull the rug out from us. Three communities And I was glad that the board of trustees decided that they would postpone the vote. And so where we're at now is trying to work with the executive branch and the board of Trustees at the state college system to see if there is a path to create Effectively a one year transition period where we can really evaluate what the best options are not just for the Higher Ed just of in Vermont which is really critical but also for the related community economic impacts that The three host towns would suffer if we were to just shut the campus down without any plan to replace them. So we're we're working through and trying to figure out a good process. I'm hopeful that we'll be able to pull something off. I do believe Speaker Johnson now joins US and good morning speaker. Thank you so much for coming on the day. Graham show this morning the morning crowding and I wanted to ask you and I'll put the question to both of you but I'll start with Speaker Johnson and since you haven't had yet to visit with talk on our area at this morning and One of the one of the. Hey wait a minute. Aspects of this thing I saw the other day was People were circulating a small passage from Vermont. State Law from the statutes of the State of Vermont which basically said that the state colleges are not allowed to. I think the word was abandoned or closed down any of their campuses without approval of the General Assembly at being you folks are the legislature and Speaker Johnson. I'm curious to know you know whether you have seen and reflected on passage yourself what you think it means and whether it has a whether it's going to have an impact in this discussion Yes that is a very important part of Part of the statute and this fits governs Vermont State Colleges and This is the place where we have. A difference of opinion with the colleges We have we have talked with Legislative Council and believe that closing down campuses and no longer offering programs is equivalent to abandonment Of those students of the Faculty of those communities And the The the lawyers for the State College System from what I from from initial conversations have signaled that they believe that that means abandoning the physical property and And putting it up for sale which they are not proposing doing it doing it at the time so there there is a difference of opinion there But before we get to that question I think I think the points that Senator Ashmead are really that In all of the all of the chancellor's deliberations in the worst of the board has been doing they've been focusing on how to save the Vermont State College institutions and. What we need to do is look at a much broader view of of higher education in Vermont and how to provide the best twenty-first-century opportunities for kids and You know and and even mid-career adult Going back for a retraining or a degree or an additional degree we need to look at the economic development opportunities around the state and And those communities and so so before we get to that You know for two to that that disagreement over what constitutes abandonment I think I think we're we're really trying to find a pass through so that So that we can create a transition plan for you know for something that that works and right now. Everybody's head is in like. Isn't that space of you know? Don't lose these these really critical campuses And I hope very quickly we can transition to what would our vision be for higher education for authors it. I'm wondering you know in terms of that. Broader Vision there One idea that I heard floated yesterday. I think it was in the Senate of Zoom meeting or whatever the the line and you see these twenty five or close to thirty the full membership of the Senate and these little individual pictures. It's pretty bizarre experience compared to my past coverage of the legislature and. I'm sure it's bizarre for you folks too. I Tim Ashe. I wonder if you could tell us a little bit. What you thought about I think it was Was At senator Hardy from brought Linda Ruth Hardy from Rowan County who Talked about using the word. The word merger in connection with the State colleges and the University of Vermont. Are we thinking about possibly some that deep reorganization of our Higher Ed System? Well Ruth Senator Hardy who lives in Middlebury has a very addison county. Yeah yeah well. You're forgiven because we're not in person. Okay so so Senator Hardy has some Direct experience having worked at Middlebury College in their Budget Office during some very difficult times for the college so Her her knowledge is actually extraordinary in this regard and what she's pointing at something that many of us have encouraged for many years although without much success which is A much closer collaboration between the State College System in the University of Vermont. They each have They each served very Distinct but interrelated purposes. But over the years it's been virtually impossible to get them to come together and benefit from greater collaboration so whether it's merger or some other connection that allows students to more seamlessly moved from one system to the other or allows courses to be more rationally divvied up That uses campuses perhaps more flexibly than has been in the past to benefit both systems. I think those are all things that ought to be considered as I say historically institutions. Were rather territorial. I think would not step up there but what this whole experience is calling out you know when we talk about merger and any of the other option ultimately it's really about human beings that are involved in you know. Thousands of students on Friday received a very jarring message that what they had expected for their college. Tenure as Is BEEN PUT IN JEOPARDY? Also obviously the faculty and staff and their work lives in the impacted house on their communities and the connections are anchoring to Touche's in each of the three Location so with what we really need to do is have a process how transition that really respects the people involved Who were ultimately at the bottom of this whole thing would let let me for a moment. try to bring the clock back into the very much the present time the kind of the here now. It can weaken Speculating a bit. A little more about the future of this whole overall these these institutions overall. But I'll put this one to use speaker Johnson. I do I understand. Correctly that You two were involved in a meeting that also included the governor this morning No the governor was. We were involved in a meeting with the colleges but the governor was go. I see okay. Yeah and then facing the administration was represented. The okay what. What was the upshot there? I mean what's what's the sort of current thinking about. Is there going to be a vote of the next Monday? For instance or What are we what? What's the plan? Here I think the immediate plan is to try to figure out What a transition plan would look like how much it would cost. And where that money's coming from and How how much it would cost. What what What kind of dollar figures are are being Are being considered right now. I think that that's what we're trying to get to You know the the the the number that they've used publicly would which is what they use with us privately as well was This twenty five million dollars and we're trying to we're trying to figure out What what that. What Vermont Owners? Get for that twenty. Five MILLION DOLLAR INVESTMENTS 'cause that's that's a whole lot of money and so we. WanNa we WANNA figure out You know obviously obviously the The economic development that is provided to those community is substantial. The opportunities provided to those students is is substantial and And what from what those three campuses? Nin To our workforce is tremendous And and so. We're we're trying to. We're trying to figure out exactly what You know what what is available? This is all happening when we're also trying to learn what some of the parameters are on on some of the federal monies coming in Some federal monies could be used for this but but it's not entirely. Kobe related so So we have some restrictions there So I think so. We're trying to look at at what What a viable What a viable transition year would look like to be able to to give some time for some very careful thought and You know Wehrley is a state As awful as the situation is right now rarely is the state provided an opportunity to say. Okay what does A redesign look like. And how can we pull that off quickly? Yeah now let me ask you if I could. You know. The crisis at the state colleges is really. It's it's been a crisis for awhile from what I understand. I mean I've had JEB spaulding as a guest on the program here probably three or four times in the at least in the couple of years I've been the host of the wd talk show and and and he has basically with increasing intensity. Ray been trying to raise an alarm that the state colleges as they were. Existing are have not been sustainable And we and I know for instance last year I think I remember the figure. Twenty five million. I think in this budget requests last year And it didn't didn't happen to that anywhere near that degree Is this a matter of I'm earlier on Dave's document called the on. Today's program Dave's Ackerman was my guest and he called it. The big reveal in terms of just this pandemic actually exposing a lot of underlying longstanding problems with many many different aspects of our economy and our society. But here's one that that Was kind of standing out there for a while What do you make of that well? We we've actually been So yes this is. We have known That there that there are structural problems. financially at at the State College System That that we have an enormous demographic problems all of the all of the difficulties that are elementary schools and high schools have been facing in the last twenty. Years are now Those are now college. Age Problems So with the reduced number of students with the with the very high number of Haydn's Houston's that we have in the northeast and with a lot of aging infrastructure We've known that there were issues. We have increased appropriations To the state colleges and and given the money for You know a new program that was going to be Attractive to more students to You know money to to help merge Lyndon Johnson into northern Vermont University and And the the. The current corona virus crisis has has just sped up the timeline On that tremendously. And so that's that's where we are to Mesh you feel like the previously Legislatures and administrations have dropped the ball on this well. It's you know if you're if you're the chancellor of the system say that you've been asking money and always wanted more than you got and we have put in a pretty significant boost in recent years and I should add that each time We've provided what was requested. We were told things would be leveled up and that they will be stable and that has not proven to be the case. I think the speaker just pointed out. Some of the demographic reasons why Another issue that the state college system has suffered mightily from his retention of students. Each year they have a Pretty Difficult Time retaining the number of students which would be Ideal from the systems point of view but also from the student's point of view. The number of students who graduate within six years Is actually quite low And so we tried to work with the State College System to make sure that they're doing a better job retaining students Which benefits both the school and the student And we haven't seen the kind of progress would like so Looking back you know if we If if the college system started from one hundred million dollar annual appropriation instead of one. That's much smaller. Would they be better off? Yes but it wouldn't actually have done much about the demographic challenges it just would have propped up propped up sort of a status quo whether it was appropriate or not so looking back at this point is not very.
"state college" Discussed on The Dave Gram Show on WDEV
"Note for me you know again on a personal level is just because my role here is the host of this. Radio program. I feel like I can be a conduit for just kind of important information that you you just share Dave and I and I think that's you know that that is And I appreciate you doing that because obviously that's that's something that we really try to do. Years ENABLE OUR GUESTS. Come on and say and tell folks you know. Here's where to go for help and that sort of thing so We're we're hanging but any that's right and he really well. I mean W. DV has been you know the community station for a long time. And I think that's what folks across media or trying do Someone like myself. The role of Lieutenant Governor is kind of a strange role You know you've had this be drawn and the pro. Tem On it. Sounds like you have the Mont you know. They are the lead legislative policy directors Not The lieutenant. Governor and then the administration obviously is a huge policy and implementation director And so I've been trying to use my job as similar to Try and find all channels to disseminate information but also tried to help put fires out or occasionally if I hear things that maybe the governor. Because they're so swamped up. You know just trying to keep everything together I'm getting a lot of constituent calls from people that can't get through to other lines just trying to help filter those and and get them up the chain a ladder to Express wear real bottlenecks are and You know everyone's doing their part where they can.
"state college" Discussed on The Dave Gram Show on WDEV
"Are talking about the future of the Vermont State College System and we also have a Scott let me let actually let you finish a thought you were talking about the different profile of a two year school. Two Year degree Versus the four year degrees more typically offered at the envy you Two year degrees more typically offered at the at the BTC in Randolph And could continue with thought if you would well I? I think that I mean obviously Regardless of the amount of funding Reorganization is occurring in Vermont State colleges and continues to occur and that reorganization a needs to be thinking about everything from apprenticeship to coursework that leads to licensure to an associate's degree and bachelor's degree and even A pathway to graduate degrees for professions industries. That require those so it is Is Not a system. That is going to be focused on two or four or apprenticeship. It really needs to be thinking about the the whole gamut of our economy is very complicated and our education system needs to be training to people to to work in that economy and the I actually just saw a note from From Becker ballot whose sentences a sentence gone into session she needs to be on the Senate floor or in the virtual Senate session so she's had to back out. Yeah I I I I hope that She's It's a short show session. Maybe should get back to said near the top of the hour. But by the way wh- I did want to mention a programming note of all this confusion and that is A right at eleven o'clock this morning very shortly thereafter hero Governor Phil Scott in tops the officials will be having one of their regular news conferences. updating folks on the corona virus and the state's response to it and They will be doing so once again. Today GonNa be broadcasting that live on. Wd As we have been. All the governor's recent news conferences In happen again today. The the normal normal Program at that our bill stairs commonsense radio will shift over to one to two PM this afternoon so folks will check out the bill stairs of bills air. Show Can Do that early afternoon. and Scott Becker appreciate A. The House isn't going into session. Or How so? I appreciate the fact that that you could stay with us. Also wanted to be a result hanging on waiting Morgan from Randolph's with US Good Morning Morgan. Morning Hi How are you I'm calling are you. I'm good I'm I'm calling in. I was I graduated from Vermont Tech Center. Campus in two thousand eighteen and I was a former trustee when I was Montek student in two thousand sixteen seventeen laver unique perspective and a lot of questions but I did streamline it so something I just want to note that I thought was very interesting. back to back announcing this weekend An interesting comparison in leadership styles between the VM. So you'd be. I'm asked for a fairly significant fail out next to the chancellor announcing closures in already a time of crisis So that's an interesting contrast to make. How does the state plan to balance these two very drastically different proposals and leadership styles in the higher education system? And how do you think the state will rectify the disproportional funding? That has played a part in the lack of strengthen our college system and just remind listening V. as a separate institution from you beyond what they both received higher education funds. Right I yeah. They must receive higher educate higher education funds that that ranked near the bottom in nationally and Rate I I wanted to ask you about that Scott. Yeah we are. I mean I actually think for fifty I if you Count Puerto Rico. But that's not a good thing You know there's there's a conversation about. Uvm In the Vermont State Colleges. And I mean I think the answer is. We need to support both fully. So the kids can access those colleges It is a little bit of this a little bit of an apple in orange conversation because don't Steve Dollars to go to. Uvm They not only fund their undergraduate programs But they also have to Take care of the The the agriculture is our land grant university the farm and it also goes towards the medical school I just I just what I'm not Not You not afraid of the public college system and in the public college systems origination It was pledged to be supported as much as possible substantially by the state and It is no longer. I trust the. I've seen a lot of the background financial information. So I do understand those aspects and the difference again. No I think we agree. You know they support but we need to make sure that that's very clear saying for listeners to understand that the state has stated under-funding both the Vermont State called That is that is clear. I don't think anybody would would dispute that We have VM Has weathered the storm a little bit. Better than from my state colleges Mostly because they have A larger out of Steve Population. They have an endowment Their Research University so they have those revenue streams but But obviously they are. They're hurting too Based on the president His comments to the Senate We we need to make sure that both vm. And the Vermont's they called his are. Both vibrant are both fully funded. And that those educations are affordable and they could be accessed by for much. Vermont children in Vermont families of all socioeconomic backgrounds. Yeah thank you and I also am wondering Knowing with my connection to the college system I understand the origination pledge to state college system within the state on does that exist for you. Vm Or has this kind of dedication to UVM's a system Right in line with the level of dedication to the ESPN or actually more so financially from the state How how has that established herself or was there an origination of a seat pledged to UVM? Well you mean by the origination of pledge if you're talking about the annual up the allegations of the Higher Ed funding Wondering because I know that that that that has not been a balanced I feel like Kind of hearing from you that they are equally supported but it is actually disproportional for years. Their varying varying perspectives on that as to whether they are equal or out of balance Yeah there are different perspectives on that The that's not the point. The point is that we need to move the state of Vermont in my opinion toward Funding that Makes both for months colleges and UVM affordable to children also issue economic background and in right now neither of those case so when a press my my question and I really appreciate all the hard work doing to balance this among the existing crisis as well So thank you for your dedication your mortgage all right. Thanks for the call. Morgan and and and Scott Peck. I wanted to ask you another Feature of this whole discussion which We haven't gotten to yet on the show and I think it is important in that is there's actually provision in state law which says that The State of the state colleges born trustees and administration meaning the chancellor basically May Not abandon or close any of its campuses without the approval of the General Assembly. Are You doing that passage? I am familiar with that. Status Act came became very familiar with it on Friday. Senator Benning centered around And so it's it's there and He remembered it from back in his days. Being on the board and seventy nine when this conversation occurred at the of course the late seventies early eighties was very difficult economic time in the United States as well And so there is. There are a lot of people that are of the belief that ultimately this will Circle back to the legislature. Yeah so I gathered. That was at one of the reasons that the the originally scheduled vote today of the board of Trustees They were supposed to vote on this proposal by the Chancellor Jeb spaulding That that vote's been delayed Is that is that a reason that somebody pointed this out and everybody said Hey. Wait a minute. I don't know it could be. I think but I think the reason is is that Has Been The public outcry in the last seventy two hours that That that's that was. I think I'm sure people thought there would be some pushback. I'm not sure if people realize how to this degree you know I I I I got to say. I'm not surprised that that this kind of proposal would be Just get the kind of push back that it that it has received. Because there's so many constituencies which are Really dependent on the state colleges. Not Obviously you have the students you have the faculty and staff and all the jobs you talked about five hundred full time equivalents at Northern University And then there are then. There are the communities places like Lynn. Linden places like Johnson obviously ran off Which are you know? In those small towns. These colleges are real economic drivers and and spins for the role the economic the education Impacts of something like this are absolutely enormous. I mean I I was talking to Representative toll over the weekend several times over the weekend and I was just like if if this came to pass. I don't think there's any amount of economic aid that could save the economy's in these towns I mean it would just be absolutely devastating And so there there are. I mean and that's not necessarily a good reason to you know I mean to fund College System Colleges certain aren't responsible for the economies of the state But I think those are all factors that that Translate into public sentiment. Let's go We got a couple of callers waiting. Let's go to Jack in CABOT. Good Morning Jackie. Hey Dave how you doing this morning? Good Morning Representative back. I would just like to remind folks. you know not only the economic devastation. The loss of the youth but the state has been supporting the two plus two program that is house for two years down at VTC Vermont Tech and that is a premier program of training. Our Future agricultural is not to mention all the other tech. Ed programs that they run down there so the farmers in this state is everyone knows along with everyone else are under tremendous stress right now but to sing that we would just throw away the opportunity to train our future not only farmers but nutritionist and teachers Anybody that touches agriculture or forestry by closing that campus and thinking we could move everything up to Williston. It's absurd and agriculture as well as these communities. You don't need that added stress. I mean I've I've followed the discussions on the budgets. I follow the discussions about agriculture. And I that's one of the things that hasn't been talked about and I'm offering that up on behalf of the agricultural community is what's going to happen to that dairy farm. What's going to happen to those students that the state is helping to pay their tuition for and moving them up to him. I don't think we've heard any program or plan as to what that will do and it will really drastically affect what is going on In the agricultural world so I just like to add my two cents in there on behalf of agriculture and the fact that we really need to support all three of these pro- programs but also specifically Vermont Technical College because of what they offer students who don't go to a four year college or don't go to a liberal arts college and he wanted to do hands on very important essential work for the state of Mont. Thank you for the call. I think Jack makes a really good point. There are Including Agriculture there are dozens of other Implications of something like this different programs. That are unique to these institutions. And how you know. You can't just transplant them onto another campus Even if their infrastructure in their buildings allow it. I mean it's just it's an enormous system it's even for. It's you know it's Vermont sized but it's it's enormous in any kind of reorganization. Has to be really really thoughtfully. Be Thoughtfully done with the plan. And also you have to manage the message to. I thought the most disturbing thing about the chancellor's announcement on Friday was that mean. You have you know. Twenty twenty five hundred kids at it Between the two campuses and twenty three hundred I think and you have a large number of kids that BTC Randolph. I'm not sure of the exact number Those people except for the ones that were graduating. Those people were planning on coming back next year. There were freshmen. They were planning to enroll some of them from out of state to come in and to to do it like that. Just I mean it just cuts in these off of of the future in a much more thought out process would have been. I think much more well received now. I do realize that You know the concern is is is money. They don't WanNa lose twenty twenty five million people but I think the message right now from the from the legislature from the governor needs to be. Hey we've got three more years three months of F. White Twenty and that's why twenty one coming up. We don't even understand cares. Three cares for is coming We have a reserve fund we have the Inter Fund we.
"state college" Discussed on The Dave Gram Show on WDEV
"Yeah I left you it. It's always find all right. Thanks a lot to dig into this Hugely CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE. That has been has been percolating along for the last couple of days. especially Since Friday when the Chancellor of the state colleges system here Amonte announced that He had a plan to close three campuses of the state colleges. They've been in the dire financial straits for awhile in this Corona Virus. Crisis Course has been Maybe the death knell for at least a these three campuses. If this plan were to go through the Problem now is that the colleges are having the refund to have had a refund to students. Salata dorm peas meal meal fees and so on I think it's been like that. Twelve million dollar hit on the system which was already struggling financially mentioned so one of the bring in a couple of lawmakers who've been following this issue closely and who joining me on the phone this morning the Senate Majority Leader Democrat of Rebecca balance of Windham county back in the morning. Thanks so much for joining me the morning day. They should be here and I. I didn't mean to do this but I've got a BECCA ANTIBAC- Scott back out of Caledonia County Is Saint John's Brie a Republican House member and member of the House Education Committee and And also a strong advocate for our state college system in one who feels like it's been short changed over time. We'll talk about that in just a bit Scott back. Thank you so much for joining us as well. Thanks for having me Dave. Hi Becca come morning. Scott and the last time I was on I was on education. It moved over to waive needs. Oh Oh okay sorry you gotta keep up problems similar situation. I was on education and now I'm in finance right got it. We both can be from both those perspectives. Yeah that's interesting in and Clearly the problem is here is financing education. So sounds like we still have the right people on on the air this morning so Let's start with you Beca balanced senator from wind of Gowdy. And ASKA I. I understand that you were in a A Senate caucus meeting on Friday warning And heard about this proposal from the Chancellor of the state colleges was. Was that the first. You've heard of such an idea. Yes so let me be clear it was an all all Senate Caucus. So every senator was on the call all thirty of us and we actually didn't get a briefing at that point from The chancellor we had gotten wind from some members of the caucus I know Senator Westman initial draft of the proposal and so he was bringing us up to speed about some pieces. Senator Bruce on education also bring us up to speed and Jane Kissel Chair Appropriations and of course you know as we all know higher. Ed Been Struggling. Not just you're in Vermont. But across the nation we do have Declining enrollment in so in terms of it being a financially strapped. We did know that we had no idea that the what was being contemplated by the trustees as closing the three campuses and I I think I can speak for the for the entire Senate. We were deeply shocked by this proposal. And we're not Really had not really been briefed as to the dire straits Especially that Northern Vermont. University was in. And so we're we're all really. We're trying to gather more information. I was actually just on a leadership call with House and Senate and Jeb spaulding just a few minutes ago to get some more details In so I will at Scott jump in here but yeah to your question we. We really didn't understand the extent to which The chancellor felt like we were careening towards insolvency in the system. Yeah and Scott back tell me. Your your perspective on this because your The column You wrote the Record. The ran the other day You know it struck me as as somebody who's been worried for awhile about the state colleges you think being shortchanged I I haven't concerned for quite some time. I think you know what you saw over the weekend. is was an outcry from various areas of the state and pretty big areas of the state And I think when you boil it all down. what they are very concerned about is access to an affordable higher education. And when you and when you take out a envy you which has a campus of course Lyndon and Johnson and VTC which is a hub for the central part of the State. You have you've taken off the table. The potential for an affordable education for a huge number of kids and in many of those areas. They are challenged socio economically already. They don't have the option of going somewhere paying room and border paying dollars or taking out loans even if they could get access to stick loan tonight. I think that's what it is. It's this is a We will we will go to great lengths to afford to preserve affordable higher education for children. If I could just jump in Dave one of the things that struck the and of course we. I'm sure Scott noses to we know these numbers but to just have them spelled out in front of us. Eighty three percent of the folks who attend state colleges system are Vermont. Almost fifty percent of them are first generation Vermonter who are going to college Nearly forty percent low income Vermont or so although you know I heard several colleagues over the weekend say well. This isn't any different from what's happened at Marlborough or at Goddard or a Green Mountain and my answer to that is no. It is different because this is our state college system. It's an affordable Means TO HIGHER. Ed For so many for monitors and so we do need to look at it with a different. I so I think Scott Beck and I actually see this pretty similarly. Despite the fact that we're from opposite ends of the aisle and from different parts of the state I see it as a critical component in our system that is affordable for Vermont or well. That's an interesting data point because I mean when you think about I mean certainly very sad to see a place like Marlboro go through its its demise But I I would gather that many of the students said Marlboro. Do have other options. Just by virtue of the fact that they're you know most of them are from families. If they could afford the Marlboro tuition they can afford to go to school Yeah what is your state. College student might be different. Picture right and dissimilar there are similarities and that they're going to hit those communities in the same way if these campuses close it's devastating. Yeah I wanNA talk about economic impact in just a minute first. Let's bring in. A caller has been patiently waiting on the line since he wanted to ask a question about colleges. Before you folks join me so okay. Let's Let's go to Bill Berry. Good Morning Bill. Everybody I'm GonNa say this. I have to family members who went to a Montek and got an associate's degree of engineering and that type of thing in other words a very good degree Got Excellent jobs. Run the state one with supply of company doing better than a lot of people who have gotten forty degrees from other places and so and they represent a whole lot of people who have very then cost them as much as a full degree. And as you said it's it's more comfortable for them and yet they successfully and they went to. They ran off campus. That's what they were taking now. I know a person who's not going to say which was a husband wife and I know the fan and one of them. No now works at the Montek in Randolph that they have four kids to in high school two in college. If that person loses his or her job most two children will have to leave college. Can I tell you? This is just three cases that I can tell you about said I know and you can multiply those cases by many many many many now one thing. I heard before all this happened to me was we. Were having a problem. Keeping young people that had educations in the state in closing these campuses. There's GonNa make that problem a lot worse and don't think that probably won't return. There's all I wanNA thank you remake. You raise some good points here. I do WANNA get some reactions from Scott Beck and beck a balanced and be Scott your your thoughts about about the value of that. Vtc associates degree. I mean frankly I will say that some of the surprised me in the sense that they are the Touche's BTC versus the northern university campuses. They are three different They're they're separate campuses Yeah I I think. The caller makes a lot of good points. I mean the ripple effects of these closures would be enormous. I know envy you employees. Seven Hundred People. I think about half of them were full time. I think it's about five hundred full time FTE The ripple effect would be enormous As to the comment about the the two year degree I Four year degree is not always the most appropriate degree or education depending on what fields somebody is going into Two year degrees or very valuable degrees in they are completely appropriate as our apprenticeships or even graduate school and so. I think that we need to be able to offer a wide spectrum here because interrupt.
"state college" Discussed on The Dave Gram Show on WDEV
"From Radio Vermont. It's the Dave Graham show on. Wd It's your show about the people places and the issues that matter the most to you. Now here's your host Dave Graham Good for his debut the Twentieth Two Thousand Eight Twenty and we have an interesting show lined up for you this morning. I do believe that we're going to start out. In the first hour with Lindsay curly. She is the secretary of the of Ron Agency of Commerce and community development. That agency has been working to draft plans Which got an announcement from Governor Phil Scott on Friday to start a just a bit? I guess Loosening up some of the restrictions on business activity in the state a lot of stuff still going to be closed down pretty much sure limited to a great degree by this Kobe. Nineteen crisis that we are all in and But but Just seem to be a glimmer of light shining on Friday as the governor was talking about which businesses might be able to operate in the in the May actually starting today and not finding out what those are an also had a welcome calls from from listeners. if you have questions for The Secretary of Commerce Community Development Lindsey curly and one thing I wanted to say right at the outset is I had a call earlier today from an agency where it was explained to me that secretary curly will will not be able to sort of issue. Any kind of official rulings or decisions about whether your business can open so Don't expect call today Graham. Show and get some kind of a stamp of approval to get Your Business Back. Open this morning General Guidance I think is more the more the The guideline ear and will We'll get to that in just a moment The other thing I wanted to mention was in the latter hour of the program we are Gonna be addressing another huge controversy in a state of mind that has unfolded over the last few days and that is a concerns the future of the State Colleges Chancellor Jeb spaulding of the State College System announced on Friday. A plan to close three campuses those in In the northern Iowa University campuses in Lyndon and in a Johnson and also the Vermont Technical College campus in Randolph. This is Generated just a lot of concern and consternation CETERA and Not least among our legislators a couple of we're GONNA be joining me in. The second hour of the program is morning to talk about what you're hearing. If I had a chance to join us this morning he said he's tied up can't be can't make himself available this morning. I gather. He's a busy guy these days and hoping to get him later in the week he has been a guest on on the day. Grab show a few times at the vast and we always joy speaking with Jeff spalding. But not today so anyway. Let's start in with With Lindsay curly the Secretary of Commerce and Community Development for the state of Vermont. Believe she's on the phone with us Good Morning Madam Secretary..
Alexander Pushkin in Opera, Pt. 1
"Hello everyone and welcome to the classical classroom. I'm dish plate and here with me today in the studio is Jonathan Dean. He's the he's the drama for the Seattle Opera and you may remember him from such episode of classical classroom as that one about the Steve Jobs Opera. The Seattle Opera is about to begin performances of Eugene Oregon which is based on a story by Alexander Pushkin and today John is here to talk to me about Pushkin and Russian upper John. Welcome thanks thanks for having me here. Sip before we get started. I have to ask for those listeners. Out there who don't know an me. It was a drama teacher. It's sort of a funny title. Not Every Opera Company has dramaturge but I would describe my job as being charged with making sure that everybody understands what's going on out of the CI- and actually sometimes the people on the other side of the stage to the I was hired at Seattle opera billion years ago to perform the super titles meaning to sit at the booth at every performance. Do make sure the right words over the right characters so when you go to the opera you can like actually read subtitles. But winter actually called Super Title Saban Super Titles. The same things have one is below and the other is up above Right if we did the bottom you wear the conductors head would be people like looking at those shiny bald heads words. Yes we've you know we've been doing super titles in opera in Seattle since the eighty s and pretty much everywhere in the world. That's very normal which gives opera audiences way more access to the drama than they used to have to do some cramming ahead of time and try to memorize what who everybody was going to say to. You know who and then Good Luck. Once the music started and super titles make them much much much. Easier to offer has turned his evolved since that new technology really into something much more theatrical you the listener can play along even if you don't speak Say Russian yeah and and the funny thing is I have that. I started doing that a long time ago as the musician. Getting the right line of if the right person's head by worked on my languages and took over writing the translations. Oh in the nineties. So if it's a talented French German you're usually reading and translation that I wrote. I have never actually learned Russian. We don't do too many Russian opera. So in this case for instance somebody else's has written the translation My job is just to make sure that it all happens. And and goes smoothly. Okay oh but still what a great story Eugenia again. And what a great honor Jerry working with this amazing artistic legacy of this this writer who he is he's one of Russia's greatest writers he belongs to the World Sorry Russia. You CAN'T kill this writers. Work Yeah. I was really excited. That we're going to talk about Pushkin today because back in the olden days when I was doing my Undergrad at Evergreen State College. I studied Russian literature for a while. I just fell in love with it. Because it's like I don't know it's got this really particular flavor this particular character to it that is just like you are curled up in a chair next to a fire with like a goblet of vodka on a winter's nights and having all of the emotions known to humanity all at once. I don't know I don't know how else to describe it. But but like I remember reading Pushkin and it just being this. There's something about his language just made me get what it was like to be Russian and it's very yeah involving it's the rest of the world goes away and it pulls you into so intimate. Yeah yeah so we should say like like who he was and like when he was writing which I think was like the early eighteen hundreds. Yeah remember the beginning part of the nineteenth century the operas you. I've been calling Pushkin. The wellspring of Russian opera every great Russian composer of made operas based on Pushkin Stories with him until much later took them a few more decades to get organized musically. It's funny because he became such a really just pivotal person in the Russian Arts night night even just literature but in the Russian arts but like he started out not so great like his home. Life wasn't great. He had kind of a bad time. He did a lot of Like gambling and drinking and he died young. Yeah that's right. Yeah he like. He was exiled south of Russian. Yeah yeah he kind of lived a lot of the stuff that he was talking about. One thing that I read about him was that he I think he got a lot of the fodder for his stories when So he had been had been exiled by the the Russian government for basically talking smack about them poet writing Commons writing for the stranger Seattle. Yes yes he was a Dan savage or Orlandi Western guy up your exile. So they sent him away like you. Do I guess at that time? And so he's like exile for like six years and then he finally a news. Art comes in like okay. I forgive you. We're still going to censor your work. You can come back. But right after the exile. He was like staying. His family was kind of well to do and they had the state and he went and he stayed on it after his period of exile. And there is. This nurse lived on the estate. Apparently Netanya Netanya. Jagna is the nanny. Oh yeah and so she like. It's just the two of them like everybody else's abandoned the state so he's just like on this estate with this old woman and she must have been a genius storyteller. Everything I don't understand is that he learned from her. How you tell traditional Russian story. Yeah she tells him all these folktales and then he kinda like I don't know yeah so I think she was. Maybe like the secret genius behind his. He he because he does a lot of those Russian folktales verse as these Long Narrative Poems so miserably the language in the poetry's his
Summoning Bloody Mary
"The Encyclopedia of Urban Legend. So there is such. An Encyclopedia describes a formula for summoning the spirit of bloody Mary. Perhaps you heard of this myth. Our team of urban legend riders set out to determine once and for all if the legend of calling up bloody. Mary was fat or fiction. The process for bringing forth the spirit goes something like this. Teenage girl stands in a dark room with a large mirror only illuminated by candles. She holds she chance. I believe in Bloody Mary Thirteen Times or until the spirit makes its presence known. Now remember my Wednesday gas shower. Bauer deals with spirits and talking with spirits from the beyond the veil. And I'd be curious and I will be asking her about this myth or mystery or team found that most of the rituals were performed in a bathroom. The story of a nineteen eighty-eight CO edited a small Washington State. College put the Urban Legend Riders. So the correct state one graduate explained how her roommate tried out the ritual for fun and ran screaming from the dorm bathroom. Shaking and Pale genuinely terrified. Her clenched fingers covered in blood. Our intrepid riders were intrigued by the story but wanted something more recent the day before they were to return tonight. I will sound studio with a finished script. Team Leader Ryland. Anderson was contacted. Apparently News of an investigative writing team in search of supernatural travels fast among small towns in the Washington State village of Aurora population. Six hundred fifty five. A young team was willing to tell her story. Ashley Pelton no longer resident having moved with the family. Her father was transferred to. Idaho was back in the village visiting friends. It was during a sleepover with six other teens. Who took the dare and stepped into the bathroom lights out with only a candle. Ashley said she wasn't sure of the incantation so recited I believe in Mary. Thirteen Times with ease. Recitation turned to circle when she came around to face the mirror for the last time the face of a young girl wearing a bonnet was sausage curls eyes darting from side to side as if walking for something or someone nearly filled the mirror the head shoulders appear to be bobbing up and down in an amber liquid. The event took place just before family left the area. The previous summer and the group had sworn each other to silence. Ashley's parents knew nothing of the event but her father Roger Pelton was an amateur historian and explained the history of Aurora village that might account for the image in the mirror bobbing internet or liquid. He told how the small Washington State village of Aurora started out as a colony led by Prussian born Taylor William Keel. Who moved with his wife to the United States in the eighteen thirties by eighteen forty four? He established the BETHEL colony in Missouri by eighteen. Fifty five. He decided to set up a second. Call it in Washington territory but four days before they set out his daughter. Mary died malaria not wanting to leave her behind. Put her in a lead lined coffin filled with whiskey to preserve the body. Could Ashley have summoned the spirit of Mary Keel? Who just perhaps was looking for her
Atlanta: Missing Fort Valley State student Anitra Gunn found dead
"There is a tragic end to the search for that missing fort valley state university student from Atlanta we will meet with the district attorney's office to go over the evidence evidence potentially against the market's little following a deputy's discovery of the body of a need for a gun and some what's offered Crawford County road part of our cars bumper found there to the fort valley state college senior I'd gone missing Valentine's day peach county sheriff Terry dese tells WSP little is being held on damage to property charges from a domestic incident nearly two weeks ago there was a went to knock out the house you stay in a or the house founder at
Mel Tucker is the 'fearless leader' Michigan State football hoped to find
"State college football after Luke Fickell Stacy we stayed with the Bearcats Michigan state today name Colorado's Mel Tucker is the Spartans new head coach soccer coach defensive backs for one season at Miami University he also coached at Ohio state and for the Cleveland Browns in it said just couple of days ago he was not interested in the job and would be staying
Walt Disney Q4 2019 Earnings Preview
"Later today quarterly results are due from the multi media power house known as Disney in a busy year with Disney buying into new media and the theme parks and not nothing market place's Kimberly Adams reports even though Disney makes lots of money off its movies and TV shows and Broadway shows and I shows and licensing John garner at leisure business advisors says the parks are a steady payday theme parks are only a small part of Disney and traditionally the most dependable part going back decades now with properties like Star Wars under the Disney umbrella the company is pouring money into matching activities in the parks like the Star Wars galaxies edge Martyn Lewis in teaches theme park management at Farmingdale state college in New York now they've raised their prices pretty aggressively you know to pay for all of this investment and that's part of the reason attendance was down three percent last quarter but revenues were still up because people who really want to go to Disney will pay whatever it costs to go to Disney and they'll pay would it costs to buy the cool new merchandise especially if it happens to look like a millennium
Becoming a Commercial Pilot Will Change Your Aviation Life
"GONNA be getting into a really cool subject today that I'm passionate about because I went through it myself. I feel like it's going to be very useful for you. At least those of you that are looking to fly for a living in those of you who want aviation as part of your life through the rest of your life right those who strive to fly every day so have you always wanted to learn. The fly always wanted it as a career career that you never quite found the time. You never quite found them money or maybe family life got in the way that's a really common one the family life and maybe have you still feel like you have the opportunity to do it but you don't necessarily know where to start. Now the mix of all these things it's it's a little bit scary. Maybe for you to feel this way that you know. Is it really gonNA work out too. Late is too much. Lots of different question marks. If this is going to be something that's worth it now. All Aviation isn't one of those things cheap to go in and screw up. It's not like you can go in on a semester of college like you can't aviation nation is just so so so expensive. I guess it depends on the college. You're going to but you don't want to become a commercial pilot only to then waste education. So is it going to be worth it. Is it going to be fun. Is it going to be a career that you enjoy. That's GonNa be something that we talk about. Throughout this podcast with the idea of what is it like. Where do you end up. Is it worth it that sort of thing all right so I think a lot of you. You have this story. That's kind of in the making our I you're. You're ready to be an aviation movie. Someone that you know trust through the mud and went through so much to get to where you're going and really anyone that has made it in aviation has their own amazing story of the hard work. It took to get to where they are so. I want to share a little bit about my journey but keep in mind that you are ready to write your own story about aviation. I hope that you choose to to do that. If you're on the fence about taking this leap of faith in doing this so through this you're gonNA see some of the challenges that I faced what my life is like now and maybe that Sunday the you look forward to and and maybe have a different idea of course on how that's going to A. B. Shaped for you because my life is not going to be your life. You want things differently. that's just the way it is but how getting to that point of becoming a commercial pilot doing this for a living commercial pilot means just the ability to take money for flying so you don't we're not tiny airline pilots here but how getting to that point will forever change the trajectory of your life so that's what I want to bring you through from my story and hopefully relating it to your story okay so let's go there so really quick. I WanNa go through my journey as a pilot is pretty be fun to reflect back on this but I think it's really illustrative of a lot of the things that everyday people go through so it wasn't exactly easy for me. I I didn't just do it all at once. When I was a teenager it wasn't paid for for me. Some of it was in the very beginning within it became very difficult later so feel like this is very relatable for a lot of you that have those challenges of time money and family because I felt like I went through every single one of them okay so I did catch the bug for aviation very early on I started in high school with the thought that I would become a professional pilot had the dream of becoming an airline pilot and it didn't end up going to college to become a pilot now. I only spent two semesters in college started. When I was eighteen. I got my private pilot licence at eighteen I I went to what's called a part one forty one college which is the training is very regimented and structured and and spent an okay amount of money. It was actually fairly affordable because it was a state college and really enjoyed. The process actually really liked my training there. However after that I went through several well years of of no further training other than just the remedial stuff from one airplane to the next ended up flying quite a bit in an airplane that my dad had purchased and at about five hundred hours I ended up getting my instrument rating at the age of twenty three so about five years later sure I got my instrument rating at the age twenty three whole lot of time in between a lot of cross country time a lot of great experiences that taught me a lot about aviation and I was fortunate not enough in that timeframe to to get a lot of flying for free because my my dad was paying for it so that's the place place where I come from. A bit of privilege is kind of how I started out. My private pilot wasn't that way I paid for a lot of my own private pilot licence but then some of my our building toward Lord my instrument rating was all paid for and I'm. I'm really really grateful for that. So I know what it feels like to know what it feels like kid to get that gift of having someone help you all right however just several years after that. I moved to Alaska and I was twenty five five of the time when I moved here and then a lot of things got in the way I ended up getting out of aviation for about five years life money I went through a divorce. I went through the process of healing from divorce. Now is a whole different story for another time over drinks if we ever meet up but not really something I focus on. I was just kind of rewriting my life here in Alaska and I think I think that's something that many people go through at some point is they may be disconnect from who they were as a child in the eventually becoming adult and I feel like when I came to Alaska I was emancipated. I didn't have any family here. I grew my life kind of on my own here ended up of course meeting so many great people and great friends that helped me along on the way so I started connecting with that new community. I ended up getting married to my wonderful wife Chelsea. She is my world. We started a family together. Are we grew our relationship together now my focus for quite a long time and I continued to grow my business. So Angle of attack is actually thirteen years old. I've been in in the business of training people for that. Timeframe started out in simulator. Training is some business to business with the famous or a well known aircraft manufacture that I don't WanNa name didn't have a good time doing that. It was it was soul crushing crushing that corporate life and so even though I was kind of moving back in the Va Shin in a more serious way at the time and doing these high dollar projects it taught me so much about what I didn't WanNa do aviation and I was looking forward to the fact that I had a family and I really needed a business that needed to grow oh and how some prospects there so. I thought that the business the business thing high-dollar thing would work but it wasn't for me. Never GonNa do it again and and decided that I needed to do something else and so I'm very grateful for that bad experience because it taught me what I really kind of knew all along but I was avoiding and then that was that I love to teach and I needed to become legitimate in my ability to teach which meant that I needed to get Mike commercial reading and I needed to get my flight instructor rating sure I had I had had years and years of experience doing my business and training meaning people and doing these training products but I wasn't actually a flight instructor. Even though I had a lot of flight time and I really wanted to do that so interestingly enough I decided that on the tail end of that project that I had such a horrible time in that I was going to do this that this was the way ahead. This was what I was passionate about. This is going to be my calling in aviation. That's where I'm at today and I absolutely believe it and I can't see an end end to that calling of wanting to teach people and make a difference that way I talked about that in the last podcast the one about where I've been what's ahead so long story short short continuing and finishing off kind of where I'm at now is I decided to get back into my training to get that commercial and see if I'd done at the worst possible time I started my commercial training right after my first baby was born and and then left home to focus on that when he was four months on sold so I literally left Alaska went down the California started that commercial training and it was it was gut wrenching to have to do that now. I just knew that I how do I had to do right like if I didn't do it right that second. I knew the writing on the wall. 'cause I'd been doing this. PODCAST already had been mentoring people people in aviation already and I knew that I would not be able to progress forward if more things in my family life and my career started to fall in a place that would be roadblocks prevent me from moving forward so even though I'm really blessed to have a family. I knew that like right away is only going to get busier. There's only gonNA GONNA get crazier. I also knew that as I switched the focus of my business is only to get harder and and money was gonna get tight eventually so I really wanted to start allocating funds to my own professional development and I knew that there is no better time than now and I I think in my story that there's anything you pull from is is it that is that is the key figure is that there's no better time than right. Now is never gonNA be easier than it is right. Now you know with a little bit of wiggle room to be smart about about when you start and how you start in aviation but you just gotTa do it and and I realized that kind of had this this moment that if oh I didn't do it now is probably never going to happen. I knew I was getting older. I was arrested pilot and I just had to go in and do it now because it had I've been at that time five or six years since I'd done a cheque right of any kind in any serious pushing aviation training I I struggled so hard in my commercial training. It was tough. I was very rusty. The knowledge that I thought I knew was very much is gone and I had to repeat a lot of that stuff that had just left my brain from being this spry early twenties guy to someone that was slowing down a little bit into my into my thirties and I know that sounds silly but just recognizing that those cognitive things do change. I struggled really bad and I actually documented this pretty well with a youtube series I did I think I ended up doing three or four videos on my commercial training and so you guys conceive visually what happened there it was a complete disaster but it taught me so much that the I needed to push through and I really wanted this dream in no matter what what is going to make it happen you know money was becoming an issue timeless becoming an issue whether it was an issue the entire time literally the DP DP he is someone who does the check rides who kinda passes you off from the FAA literally the DP got hospitalized and I had to reschedule my check ride like everything wrong that could have gone wrong happened to me and unlike before where it had someone helping me out say with my instrument training. This was all on my own like this is my own money any my own business my own family and and that was it now. I say that tongue in cheek because there were so many people that were good to me and helped me gave me free flight time and and friends of mine so I can't say that I did it completely alone but you know I think those things are are more common than not. What if you build a community around you in you in you. You do your part to make that community better. There's some reciprocity there so I had earned that reciprocity the city in a way from from some of those people still feel like I'm paying that back today but long story short it was a very brutal process to get through commercial license and then I immediately wanted to go into my flight instructor training now I did my commercial training in such a way worked with a CFI his name's Michael Michael that knew that was my eventual goal and so really a lot of how he was turning me through the process during my commercial was already getting me ready to do the FAI and so when I went into my cfi several months later it was it was a fantastic process. I had a great time. I'm doing it. I had the help of many great people through that process different. CFI's than Michael namely trace Clinton Dave her wig and the big one John Dorsey who helped me so much and it was just it was a smooth process and the CF. I check right for me okay because I had already been an educator because I'd prepared so well. I buckled down so much at the end here and and really just changed my mind about where I was
"state college" Discussed on The Dave Gram Show on WDEV
"Am FM and am and we are back in. No one injured his my next guest. Don Turner is a former minority leader in the Vermont House. He is the he's on Milton Volunteer. Fire Department is also the town manager and Milton. He wears a lot of hats Levi's I believe he's a realtor alter as well so there's all sorts of stuff to keep. Don Turner busy but I appreciate you don t taking a half hour out of your day to join me here on the Dave Graham show talk about a very important issue which is the the problem of recruitment for of Vermont's Volunteer Fire Departments Amien Services. EMT's and the whole gamut of first responders don thanks for joining me Dave. Thank you for having me on the show. It's always a pleasure to talk to you and your listeners and so I really appreciate the opportunity to talk about this issue that is you know it's been part of my life my head and tired of a life and I love serving community and I I know many of my colleagues do in the field but it is a challenging issue these days and I I feel it's a crisis I really do and I know there's a lot of people talking about it so I I appreciate Russia. You giving me the opportunity to talk to your listeners about this very important issue. I saw an OP. Ed that you wrote this week and you list a bunch of Vermont communities that are facing facing the same issue which range from Saint John's bree to cavendish and proctor proctor's Ville talking about a possible merger of their in their first responders services back down in southern Vermont really all over the place and I saw I think you mentioned that you as a as I said that you remember the Milton Volunteer Fire Department. You've been chief there. Is that right yeah. I was fire chief here Milton for fifteen years. Dave I also was was chief of the ems of the rescue squad for ten ten of those years the last ten years yup on so I was I had about a hundred years. worked with with me. you know to provide these services to our community and neighboring community and we're fortunate melting. We have a very service oriented community and it's it's growing but we still face the problem that all these other communities you know the younger people are moving and leaving we we have a bedroom community. I mean that term. You don't hear off the these days but you know you know most of the people in Milton work outside a mountain. You're you're challenged like every other community with having staff here during the day or people that can respond to these calls and you know what scares me the most is you know having been in that role for that long and as I said I into fighter pilot when I was seventeen. and it's been a very important part of my life. The entire time is when people call they expect somebody. Let me just show up and they're nights that I laid in bed many times saying boy I hope my tonight or I know we have a crew but it's limited you know or whatever I can't imagine communities that there's nobody that's going to respond. I mean what do we say to the person or the family member when they dial nine one one then it takes forty five minutes before neighboring agency to get to the emergency and by then it's way too late so that's what I want people in this state to start to see the and understand that you know there's a lot of talk about this but this is real and this is going to impact them. Should they have a time of need and we don't want that to happen. Yeah that is clear now. Here's an is it purely demographics I mean I just had JEB spaulding document. He he's Chancellor of the state colleges is in a state colleges and other colleges have been struggling with the fact that they have fewer applicant viewer enroll ease in many instances that's that's not always the case and it's not the sole challenge they'd college his face but is a big one on the list and and I wondered Don is is that is that the issue here is just fewer you're body's. I think that's a big part of the day I think the fewer people that you know with the aging population you know that's that's an issue. Demographics cause an issue. The other thing is the cost of living. I mean people you know in the older to a decade or so ago it was you know maybe not both people are working. You know what I mean somebody so you know there was people around during the day and then we had some housewives househusbands that were around during the day yeah. I don't the use those terms but any old terms here those today but you know stay at home parents there's not so many of those today and that's so that so that cost cost of living here. I think is a factor. Here's another another possible factor. I wanted to ask you about which is that It's become the norm I mean and just something I've seen over the past thirty or so years many many employers across many industries these days basically it used to be you'd go to work forty hours a week and there was a specific shifty punched clock at a manufacturing job to typically and and you know it was going to be an eight to four kind of thing or seven thirty two four the half hour lunch break etcetera etcetera these days people are working you know into the evenings is in the early mornings. They wake up and the bosses had been sending them emails since four. Am and the and and the emails don't stop from clients and so on until well into the evening and so really when you think about your your work life these days. It's frequently fifty or sixty hours for the average person. That's got to put a lot of pressure on people and make them basically feel like they may not have time to do something like join a volunteer fire department. I think that's that's a very very important factor actor in in what we're looking at it and I I actually talk about that a little bit in my op Ed when we talk about you have less time and they expectations for training the increase increase yeah yeah so you've got. It's a double edged sword because you know what we used to expect him. When I joined you know back in the early eighties you know I just had take a forty five hour course and I was ready to roll the firemen today. I mean to be a firefighter one. It's two hundred eighty seven hours of training. you know if you. WanNa be state certified firefighter one. That's what is expected. I can remember. I wasn't on the ambulance when I first joined when it became chief did take the class because I as leader felt that it was important for me to drive the city take care of patients and go to the hospital to understand what my crews were doing yup and to become become an EMT is one hundred ninety two hundred hours. You know what I mean so yeah if you're working fifty sixty hours a week and you weren't you didn't join when you were younger because you didn't have time or you realize you're interested in that once. You're in life and working. How do you add those hours on on top of your work hours your family hours. Your needs some downtime so you know it's a confrontation so your point is is is a good point and I talk on the increased expectations. Are you know for training and so on on the people that want to do this so it's it's a challenge and and again again. I don't WANNA put people out there serving their communities that are not trained that there's nothing worse than that when I when I resident in in probably in their worst possible point in their life 'cause if they're calling nine one one. They're not having a good day. No YOU WANNA send somebody who can help them. Through due situation yes absolutely and then somebody that doesn't know what to do or actually makes it worse by doing something wrong so I'm not advocating for minimizing training or anything like that so I I just wanted to clear. It's just when you put those two things together it makes it very difficult for people to join and become a volunteer services in our communities Nokia bigger community. We've been fortunate I was fortunate as chief always had a roster over thirty thirty five people. I had fifty on the rest of the year you know so I was fortunate. In the we work constantly one we couldn't people and maintain people we started paying stipends for people come to calls and we did training and continuing dead you know so we were doing things we recognize people for services that they perform recognizing him for their efforts and a warning somebody member of the year you know things like that have to recognize people because they're not doing it for the money. They're doing it for the a good community. All it also does look good on a resume. I would imagine if you go into a job interview and you talk about. I'm volunteer firefighter or an EMT. crew remember I. I think that if I if I'm the employer I mean I maybe it cuts both ways because in the end I might worry about. Are you gonNa Suddenly Covet near from your desk in the middle of a project or something but on the other hand it tells me that this person is stable and committed or community and is and is really you know typically a good person basically right yeah. I always wanted people are applying for jobs you know for me when I was in a private sector and even today at the town. I definitely give them. you know a high leg. I definitely give it a second. Look for Yeah Yeah they had. You know it's important. when you're willing to give give of yourself to do these types of things in always found two years might what I've found. There's a lot of you know longtime families that have been involved in this stuff and give a lot. I think of the Clark family over in Jericho and I like to speak with my friends and they've been randy. Senior was the fire chief for ever Clark Truck Center essentially sets down when they have a fire and underdog Jerko because half the people that worked for them around the Fire Department. They give a lot they give a lot and even my own family. My sister was. Emt both my sisters re MTV's MTV's. you know I've been in the fire forever. You know my kids. My daughter was on emp. My nieces are emt firefight so you know it's a family thing when people people involved and and that's you know that's what tests kept it going for all these years. I think we'll still help us go further but we can't just turn a blind eye to what's happening happening. You know it's you know the demographics people moving out of certain parts of the state Chilton county were Milton. You know we are we are fortunate. We're seeing so gross elephants growing and so most county but we are attracting people to these services so let me ask you this this I wonder about this kind of the opportunities here for people who live in communities that have full time professional services now just for example. I'm imagining somebody somebody who's in Burlington and you know looks at the at the scene there and says we've got a fire department. We have a police department we have. EMT's all on staff with the city and and and and we'll we'll talk more about you know..
STEMinists: Katherine Johnson
"US finally reach for the stars. Let's talk about Katherine Johnson. Catherine was born in nineteen eighteen in the small town of White Sulphur Springs West Virginia. It was apparent from a very early age aged. Catherine was special. She was brilliant when it came to the humanities and she had a true gift for numbers by each ten. Catherine had started high school school in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven when she was just nineteen. Catherine graduated with highest honors from the historically Black West Virginia State College after graduating Catherine took a teaching job in Virginia which is two years later. She was handpicked for spot as one of the first three black students at the state's beats flagship school. West Virginia University Catherine enrolled in graduate school there for math but left after a year to get married and start a family family eventually should return to teaching then in nineteen fifty to one of Catherine's relatives told her about an exciting new opportunity the all black West area computing section at the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics was hiring for the Langley Laboratory. The West West Area Computing Unit was a group of African American women who worked on complex manual math computations for the programs engineers it was tough and vital oh work the west computers as the women were known analyzed test data and performed math computations early space program they were key success when Catherine started working at an aca she was quickly noticed for her sharp mind and the quality of her work. Catherine Katherine still had to use separate bathrooms dining facilities from her colleagues because NACE was segregated until nineteen fifty eight when it was incorporated into the new NASA where segregation was banned there. She worked for the Space Task Group which was charged with figuring out space travel in nineteen sixty. St Catharine Co authored a paper with one of the groups engineers about calculations forgetting a spacecraft into orbit. It was the first time a woman in her group received seved authorship credit on a research report and it was just the first twenty six published papers. Catherine authored in nineteen sixty one Catherine Atherton began working on NASA's hyper ambitious Mercury program NASA was looking to catch up with the Russians and put the first man. US Crafts Into Space Katherine did the trajectory analysis for Alan Shepard's May nineteen sixty one mission freedom seven America's first human spaceflight guy the CBS TV news project Mercury Headquarters on alcohol. If somebody and I'm Alan Shepherd astronaut the minutes to walk the next year in one thousand nine hundred eighty two Catherine was called upon to do the work that she would become the best known for as NASA prepared for John Glenn's orbital mission of the Earth it had to construct a worldwide communications network linking various tracking stations located around the world to supercomputers located in DC Cape Canaveral and Bermuda though the computers I have been programmed with the necessary equations for the entire mission. The astronauts were concerned about the new technology which was prone to error and didn't trust the computers is to do the calculations. Glenn famously asked the engineers to change the preflight checklist to get the girl get the girl to check the numbers but when he got ready to go call her to run the exact same equations that had been programmed into the computers by hand Glenn. Supposedly said she says good. I'm ready to go and she says Computers Right. I'll take if she says they're good then. I'm ready to go three to one zero ignition liftoff history. Perhaps being ridden at this moment here at Cape Canaveral face like take parental John around the world in ninety minutes. Catherine continued her career at NASA ASA until she retired in nineteen eighty six after thirty three years at Langley about her time at NASA Katherine said. I loved going to work every single day. In Twenty fifteen at the age of ninety seven Catherine added yet another achievement to her long list of accomplishments President Barack Obama awarded her the Presidential Medal of Freedom America's highest civilian her thirty three years at NASA Catherine was a pioneer broke the barriers of race and gender showing generations of young people that everyone can excel in math and science and reach for the Stars in in twenty sixteen NASA named a research facility in her honor and later that year a book was released about her life and the lives of her colleagues it was turned into into an Oscar nominated movie called hidden figures. Catherine's incredible life continues to move motivate future stem. Ns today you'll lose. Who's your then you stop learning tune in tomorrow for the story of another stellar