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DLD 217: The Dumpling Run
Welcome to episode two hundred seventeen dots lines in destinations. I'm Steven Seagraves. Joined today by Seth Miller in Hong Kong, and we have a we have a producer in the room. Today are Steve's here with us where he refuses to our microphone though. So that's gonna be awkward. We need to be produce. Overlooking watching the ferries go back and forth was his Fe. We're looking at here shirts does not cause I've got that wrong. Last night on the Twitter's got pretty mad of Victoria harbor, but it's like the western bit out towards the airport and whatnot. Yeah. We're in west Kowloon would call the w hotel actually less inconvenient than I thought. It was both being on from where it is on the transit lines. And also, you know, these are nice to get the room with the water view yet. Pretty cool. Yeah. It's pretty cool. It's the. We're on the scene for Steve you're on thirty third of the he's a little bit of by he nods. Affirmative. Yes. But at school in the ad bridge going up the airport, but that's not the new fancy fan bridge. No. But we did see that coming in. Did you yet record close down part of like one of the paths near the airport to make that happen yet? The saying that this evening. Yeah. 'cause I took the train enough. Okay. Yeah. I actually I stayed at them Nira moon, which is a design collection hotel in Hong Kong on hung island sort of over in the one CHAI neighborhoods a little east ish from central and they made a very strong points. Remind me that they are a design collection hotels. So they don't do all of the benefits of the Starwood Marriott programs in Marriott program. And I did not bother to ask which ones I was not getting because it just seemed pedantic. Yeah. And I got my bonus points, but not free breakfast or something like that. I also got an upgrade AS Roma's pretty nice. It's actually not nearly the same picture window factors guys have here. But I still could see out the water, and and unlike the neighbor. Yeah. Little little the dumping place. We went to this afternoon's. Yes. That was a I'll put the name of it in the Lincoln the notes because I can't get something. Something Shanghai dumpling something that someone on Twitter recommend to Mesa. Thank you for that. Yet, your dear followers. Yeah. We had some soup dumpling this afternoon. I actually had to orders of them yesterday waiting for you guys to get here. So what are we doing here? I guess is the question. I'm just here for the dumplings. I came to the food states in the company. I think is what I told somebody. Yeah. But you guys inferior on mileage runs sort of. But not really. But maybe I mean, it was a good p fair from Raleigh in from Las Vegas to Beijing. Yup. And has a just a connection he hasn't even to atop proper stop over in Hong Kong her I guess, technically like twenty two hours twenty two hours yet does that Rexy twenty hours more coffee. Maximize the Hong Kong portion of it and then are doing like another sixteen in Beijing. And then continuing back. Doing this in the middle of our podcast. All this noise. This show of sorry. Sorry to everybody on the show him. So far. He was trying to think about. Trying to be quite with a sledgehammer. But so you. He had paid bears and are earning points for what not. And then we're like, hey, we're doing this thing. It was like let me check in the fairs actually from the US to train our stupidly cheap these days, and you guys had have been talking about Beijing. Because that's technically what this fair was. And it just so happened a couple of weeks of delta had a sale pop up like a, you know, lash sale on awards in thirty three thousand miles and fifty bucks. I could do Boston. Beijing Beijing to LA and I needed to go to LA for a conference anyways. So I'm basically recognizing just connecting to be fair. I'm not spending anything more than a mess by more than twenty four hours anywhere along the way. But it's funny. I think both U N Steve have Chinese Isa's now. And I'm the only one training without a visa Beijing. I have to for my routing. Oh because you flew into Beijing. And then I actually to the train down here, which was who will and interesting, and really there's a little weird in there's some controversy over it. So I did the overnight overnight. High speed rail is has been around for a while. It's they run on the same. High speed rail is actually run the train slower. They don't run it will speed up time to sleep. When I did I did Shanghai to Beijing. A couple years ago in it's like five and a half hours during the day, but they slow down and do ten hours at night. I did distributed. Beijing Guangzhou down south, and it's like seven hours. I think is the regular timing again, ten hours to slow down to having a plan to sleep. And because I flown over the night I flew into Beijing. And then had a six hour connection in Beijing to get over to the train station and then got on the train into the overnight. So I was pretty exhausted. I just slept the whole rain right down. That was nice. But then the really cool part is there's the new high speed rail from Hong Kong back to the mainland and this station. It's in the west Hellen stations in the w building. It's like, yeah. This is a massive building skyways and stuff. But basically, it's connected to this building directly into the station and super cool architecture really pretty new station, but the controversy is when they built it. They have a pre clearance setup. So you know, you if you're like US pre-clearance, you're in Dublin you clear Gration, and then you're. In the United States. You know, you're still in Dublin here the way they wrote the paperwork Hong Kong, basically gave that land to China. So it is considered Chinese territory as opposed to the Dublin airport land, you're still in Ireland. Even though you cleared immigration, and so it's it's a subtle difference. But has upset a lot of people not surprisingly, and, you know, the Hong Kong versus China and all of that stuff in it is there's a lot of drama, but yet I, but someone got really mad at me on Twitter because I posted pictures saying that the station was very pretty, and they they they figured that. I was just a jackass which are both true. But not in. Particular. Not in the way that they were implying. I was like right now, I got that there is controversy about and we talked about that. But also it's still pretty we'll in part of talking about the station talking about what it looks like in. Yeah. If you're not going to talk about the controversy the station if you don't talk about what it looks like the the to go hand-in-hand like you can't you can't separate the looks in. It can still be beautiful shirt. I mean, it could also be ugly and have controversies that's out. Yeah. I would I would say is I can talk about the aesthetics of it and not have to dive into the controversy time. But it was interesting when you enter Hong Kong on the train sighted, the interesting things for me as I did Guangzhou Hong Kong Kowloon, I did on a separate train of his head connection. Yeah. As I did the business class ticket, which on the trains here. They're second class first class business class has actually above purse less. So the business class seats on the train are like full out recliner flatbed motorized see to get a snack box. There's like, you know, attendant cabinet handed service and sort of intimate small cabin the woman across the album after slept away. The whole way was an hour. They are obscenely extensive hits like a jump from per class of business classes, dupage, usually in this case, it was only an hour long ride at fifty bucks. But like it's usually expensive coming anywhere from mainland. China is that what you mean? Like just the jump from for business class on regardless all the trains in China on other high speed rail various -fensive. Tom is usually like double. Was double also. But it was like fifty bucks or twenty five to fifty. So I was I was willing to spend the extra couple of dollars for that experience. The one time they have a lounge and like most of the train stations the lounge in this case was just about to chairs and like tea. Ability. It was nice action. I can imagine it station was super crowded chaotic. It'd be nice to have the private areas like an airport lounge whatever else, but in this case, I mostly went like had food via the point of prime method. Like with one wondering on wondering if there was a loud and founded walked in like, okay. Well this away. Medicine for my train. So it was the train was cool. Entering Hong Kong. You're on the sort of beautiful that was the only part of the train ride. Also that I did that was daylight and nighttime for the overnight train, obviously. And so you're looking at in southern the like, the rolling fields of southern China and the delta down here Pearl River delta at rice, and so like, very agrarian lots of farmland, it was really pretty and then you go into a tunnel. And then you've got an SMS message telling them my cellphone had switched providers ripe t mobile. Welcome to try the Hong Kong. I guess we're here on a tunnel Sony tunnel Zona tunnel than the train stopped and we were underground, and we were in Kowloon, but we were still in the tunnel while so you don't see any all which also makes sense because real estate is highly coveted here. So they literally puddle the entire way down from the new territories, which is is interesting to me. It's just neat. But then you come in and you get back to the conference, right. You're standing still on Chinese soil in Kowloon. And I waited an hour Gration. Out of China. Yes, they do exiting migration out of China and then entrance immigration into Hong Kong. And wait it is at the same stamp on his paper. Yeah. Yeah. Yet hung entrances. Yes. Now, just a stamp on his papers, not actually stamped on your passport, the Chinese one you do stamp and stamping snap out. And they had two lanes open for foreigners and the e channel which everybody with the Chinese new cartridges the channel it was chaos like the mass of people that had to pushed my way through to get the foreigner line with huge and it had completely cleared out. By the time. The next train got there and the trains run every thirty minutes. So that that was constantly clearing out in the foreigner line. Just took for ever. Yeah. I like the guy sat and stared at my password for ninety seconds like legit ninety. They felt like Robert. But I think it's probably ninety second like, uh-huh. Mike, and I didn't want to say anything I wanted to say lot of things. But like he's like looking back and forth back and forth and looking at the screen and look at the past. Yes, I've been to China three times I got here yesterday. What what do you want to know? So one in it's kind of to me, you know, we just number of people at sheer number of people. We were just coming up the subway line or will big. Oh and on a Sunday afternoon. It is crowded busy. Yeah. It it is amazing the sheer number of people here moving back and forth across. You know from the islands of the Kowloon area. All around the city. It is a busy place. There's a lot of people in in your Tony about these trains coming in every fifteen minutes. So I can only imagine. Yeah. Like now, you're talking transit yet fairies you got all this stuff and the new bridge any bridge, which we flew over. And it blows my mind that is that long that far so the cow, and they didn't bother to build a rail line on top of it. Yeah. So stupid. Why wouldn't you put a rail line on that? Especially to Macau like I just because he put the ferry guys out of business. But it would. Yeah. Because you have to have a special license or permit the on the bridge your car. It's not all not all cars lever. That makes sense venture. It's like a toll based you have had to use it. It's also like only license so like special landings. You know, specially certified landscape parts because of how short like weird that runway as yeah. Yeah. So this morning, we went to Tim her. Yep. Hats central right? And it was mediocre. I would say it was okay food. I think the service, and so I'll say the food was good too. Good yet. The park ones remain this a life altering experience. I'm very happy. With those the other stuff, we had was okay? They messed up our ordering forgot to bring one thing. And then when we complained brought us something else instead, and at that point we were done. So it was fine. You know, it's. Yeah. It was an interesting thing. I was joking. Like, we were the first people line because I got us their way too early. But ZimRights we got seats right away. They took our order like as we sat down. And then like people got food before us yet, which I know a stupid and we'd still finished our entire meal within thirty minutes. So I can't actually complain. But at the same time, it was like, we were the first ones that we had them in you. Yeah. I already had still doubt. Why we've candidate my order before we sat down and it still took a while for the food to show up. I don't know. It was I joked when like we didn't get our meal, I that I was getting nasty review on yelp because of it and then after the screwed up in the Ellen like was weird about it. I almost feel like we should. But it was his problem. The buns are still so good the court once the sell it man, they do. So I don't know what it is at pineapple or sugar, whatever on top. For me, MS the sauce departments inside the it's all it all comes together. It's a really good product. And then from now, we're gonna go we're going to model couple of airplane model shops yet of north of here. And then I know head to the airport. I guess yeah. There's probably one mortar dumplings to be had probably think. Probably. Yeah. Generally though like last night. I thought the weather was good. It's been clear if yeah today, a little Hayes Lear compared to typical on whether this is nice. You know yesterday was cloudy and overcast days. Blue skies is really nice. I'm not gonna say should come to Hong Kong for the day more often. But you know, maybe hung for the day. More often, it is I would be okay. Spending a few more days here. It's too bad. We have to go to Beijing. I'm just trying to figure out my data. Cafe lost. When I bought my ticket, and they had that breach. No you did. What was our stuff stolen was my day to thoughtless you guys at least book this. You guys are both on United tickets. That happens used cafe dragon as one of the segments. I because I'm on a separate ticket and whatnot. I booked a separate one way Hong Kong to Beijing on cafe dragon isn't award. So I'm reasonably and I booked it. I believe during the timeframe, but I'm not sure if I booked a during the winter that was a problem. I know they were my recollection is the cafe issue was old. And they're just now telling people get all happened earlier this year, and I don't know how long I don't know if it started earlier this year and has been running since or if it's just it just happened earlier this year, but they handled the notification so badly Yemi and saying, you know, the PC MAG has an article on it at he's funny as data security. Yeah. The nine point four million Kathy civic customers are risks. Me sounds like their entire frequent flyer database pretty much. I mean, this sounds like about this is what the program Obata may. It's you know, it's their frequent flyer information credit cards. Passwords says no passwords or compromise passport. Not password, passports passport data might have been. No, it's in bad. There's no doubt about that as bad. Then also the part where the way too long to tell people may literally announced it by tweeting ho by the way, it was like please follow this random accounts for details about our security breach. No with no information about what the security, which was who was involved anything else. And then eventually sent an Email to I got an I did get an Email. So I think I am included Amarah member in that. I got the Email. I didn't get you probably pay. But or with your spam? Basically though, saying like, you know, I think they said to me like my credit card the CV the four digit code or whatever three to code was not compromised. So I should be okay. But no-one should be storing this evening. That's that's the purpose of it. Yeah. That's right. It's like if your PI complying you don't start yet. Exactly. Well, it's a question. Well, this goes back to the brochure. We sing it wasn't necessarily was being stored. And they were right in a British Airways case. Someone had basically added extra code onto the payment pavement was intercepting the data as it was happening. So they could even if British Airways wasn't storing it we're still getting it. Yep. Which speaking of British Airways also admitted that their breach was bigger-than-expected like that Email this week. Also, they they added a couple hundred thousand extra people to their oopsy. I think I think they just need to take the United stance to an random questions that make no sense. What was your favorite animal when you wanted to be an adult eating ice cream when you were growing up. Yeah. Exactly. What flavor ice cream is your favorite animals is your first animals favorite? I dunno. They and it's two factor. So yeah, it is technically to factor. One of them is really stupid. I mean, how do we stop data breach problems? Like, it's this seems like, you know, the airlines are a juicy target like their banks. You're kind of below Bank. Don't understand why airlines such juicy targets. I actually I do. They're they're good targets for the fraud stuff because they're so bad a chasing down. An interesting thing is to me is a lot of the fraud. This these two were both sort of targeting credit card numbers. But a lot of the fraud airlines deal with is also loyalty program or someone logs in redeems, a crap on a gift cards guessing ships somewhere or even these digital depart gift cards, and they can be transferred mobile times before anyone can figure out what happened and the poof, it's gone. I was talking the Mungai from used to run a program now for the private world consulting these days and his comment was. Yeah. When that's what happens we we make the phone call, and we are sending Email like tell someone that had happened just in case. But we give you your points back. We write it off at just about every time. That's it is actually a significant cost to the program when it happens while I'm thinking of like when you think about. Just the digital the amount of digital data. That's being sword about you your profile. And then, you know, there was this was like, I don't know couple of years ago with the Chinese if you were putting him with your tickets on United out of China or to China like there was like a big, but people were fraudulently booking all these tickets, and then using basically using other people's miles. It's just when they shut down Air China redemptions for awhile. Yeah. Yeah. Remember that? Like, I never I I do remember like when Air China bookings would randomly get cancelled for no reason or. Yeah. But I didn't I didn't really long recount all this other be like a hundred thousand miles gone. Yeah. A ticket books, and you get a lot more for same day travel. So like it happens. It's done. Yeah. And so they would call him confirm like all these tickets if you needed to books on on Air China. Yeah. Just interesting stuff is out there. I mean, the short it is a big cost of these programs. But at the same time like, I don't know it's making it hard. They limit how you will use their program to the book things would also like some this is sort of like, okay, your passwords be super complex in this in that all that doesn't make people right there passer down on a post it note, and to be fair that post notice usually not a problem, or if you have the issue with United recently wear the app kept logging people out and to reset the past or or having the reload in and you have a long password, you're on the road. You don't have your post it note with you. Then reset the this is you know, it is a bad world, you know, a bad situation. I don't know the whole how do you deal with the data breaches and this? And that part of me says just don't have any important information there. Flipside of that is these programs exist to collect all of the state about everybody like loyalty programs exist because of data. And so is it just my credit card data? Okay. I feel badly because the merchants who sold something as the one who has to pay for it when I dispute the charge, but that's part of their cost of doing business in they as you can't expect a merchant to come up with better processes because they're trusted the credit card company is doing that for them. Yes. Yeah. But you know, it it's usually if it's a small merchant somewhere, then you feel a little worse for them. Like, I it's hard for me to feel too badly. If United against route on this stuff versus you know, Joe is gift shop down the street where the margins are a little tighter. But now, it's true absolute find it interesting that none of the taxes. Here were watching the whole road into the tunnel have Mike automatic payments. They all those in the nationally Newcastle. Interesting. I've been watching him for a while in the world though. Though, it almost think that they you know, like US now that'd be required to like. I just think about my Uber's in the Holland tunnel or come from New Jersey. I think I had to stop at the booth. Bad. And every now, and then they do. Let's talk about a few minutes. I don't know. What do you are you looking forward to Beijing? I'm looking for to leaving patient. So you listen, I was there on Friday was blue skies. Steve says it's a yellow day tomorrow. I think no. So it's almost you can almost breathe. Bump me to bring my respirator with me. But my spare auction tank leave here. Can carry that thing around feel like space balls, didn't Kansas hair? But I honestly like we're gonna land at nine thirty tonight. And I'm on a noon flight, and so most of my time is spent like getting to a hotel sleeping. They're getting back to the airport. Yeah. What time you gonna leave the hotel probably nine nine thirty depends on probably I mean, just I can't imagine the lounge it actually visiting, but it's all Air, China lamas. I think vision, you know, you're you're lying delta. I find out this. There'll be some sort of contract something some Honey eastern. Yeah. I just I don't care about airport lounges enough to really get excited by that. I will say even both visited the Polaris. I visited the Lehrer slams newer on his true. It is a definite upgrade from the United club that used to be there. And it's not full space. Right. Oh, it's the entire space to see to see three. Yeah. It massive space. Nice. Never felt really like it was it was fairly busy because the Hong Kong flight was leaving. I think Beijing and Shanghai flights are getting ready to leave as well. And then the European departures were a little bit after the Hong Kong three thirty right? Three o'clock. Okay. So you're in their little. Yeah. But got a shower. Nice shower rooms hot water wasn't drift. So, you know, I I think it's a definite upgrade, I'm interested to see on the fact that we're gonna go we're going through San Francisco, I'm gonna try that one. Now, this is the global I lounge the old is the old UC yields from these persons the overflow while they were building up. And so it's up stairs know, and they have to to your seating stuff. So it'll be interesting to see what they've done there. But thesis limiting nothing special idea before it gonna playing. So it was like Anna the good ended up having the stir fry be rush. Rushing. You one of the? Circle rising Eker and had to stir fried noodles on the plane action or bed is one of the better meals ahead on United. I had decent. Delta coach food except for that midflight snack. That did not look good. There's a they did a flat bread thing. And just call of the pizza, and it was not good. No, I had one bite and put it back. There was a feeling that the next day then confident. Eat enough of it the rest of that fitted the REX Remar I like that. Let's like the super tropic hover sauce inside and the ice cream inside. It's a nice. I like that a lot. I gotta be honest. This flight, I probably the lease food. I've ever on on really like I just I didn't have that. She's played in have the Sunday. I had the didn't have the Sunday. Now, skipped it and not have a grilled cheese in the plate. Nope. Didn't have that. Either. Did you have an apple pie? No apple pie. I didn't have an apple pie either ending scene apple pie as it. One of the perplexed. The extra dessert things that confound next to the Sunday cart. Okay. So I literally said she who's sitting here in the background trying to not make noise is now he's gonna chime in. He he recommends many apple pie bite-size apple pies to come on the dessert cart next to the ice cream Sunday. I had the little little cheese. Take cheesecake square. She's takes head. And then head to Kanji because I still think it's stupid they serve breakfast before you arrive at seven pm, regardless of what they say the reason is I don't want breakfast seventy negative. Don't like Andre. No now, this was actually better Kanji that I've had on United. I've had some really crappy. And I usually just tell them to leave a meat off. And give me the that. He's just the the rice in the work of Eddie's. And this time I did that bed with the with assault, the vinegar of pickles and stuff. So, but yeah, I thought it was decent Floyd over polar around all the way. In Steve's flight was delayed a little bit. We actually landed within five minutes of each other. Yeah. I think you guys were sequenced like adjacent to each other and less funny cut a funny. His originally he was scheduled to be in by our in our or something that you were early in they relate. Yeah. So really, really cool. Good flight. I've done it the other way, and then feel nearly as long as this one hundred. Yeah. That's their long than fifteen hours. Fifteen change. Yeah. So I don't know like brings other question. Everybody's talking about the new Singapore out that just launched right? So the longest flight is an extra three hours on top of that two to three hours late. It's been flying around seventeen and a half these as like does the two hours matter. Yes. And now at that point you're already up there. Yeah. I at least. Pardon say like we'll up at least in business class. That's okay. But also you still run out of shit to do you think about it like thinking about United used to offer? This Hong Kong is a connection point for the same place. Yeah, right into. So they do Singapore. Hong Hong on you do on where the United States. So now, you're adding connection with time in the airport is was at better from the perspective of the argument is you can stand up and walk around. You can get some like food on the ground fresh air yet such as it is when you're still in a highly air conditioned building which you can walk around. So you walk around in. I don't have too much trouble. Even when applying your mommy like doing a lap or two on a plane avoidance looking for metre stretch my legs, right? Okay. Like go back to the rear galley, especially when I came over the delta eighty three fifty the rear galley has galley only. There's no lives back there. So most passengers don't go back there. So the cell you coming back, and I walked guns eat his lunch, which is Aaron like, whatever. But that was like the vote looked up at me. And it's like, Nope. Distracting. Okay. Let's nothing did anything, and they had some snacks and stuff. But it was like isn't enough walking enough stretching? Of course, not like did you notice any difference in the if you like jetlag by chance, I don't think I noticed the difference of jetlag. I do notice the moisture the humidity, confidential better is better. I get really my nose dries out fly. And when I'm on an older style of aircraft on long-haul white it dries out in like gets blood like basic, bloody noses. It doesn't actively Blake. If I blow my nose it looks like a bloody nose. Yep. An SS disgusting, but the the truth like your non strides out. And so on the seven eight seven three fifty in the three eighty to a slightly lesser extent. It's my nose is less red inside entered. Maybe I'm guessing maybe I'm projecting that made I want to believe that. But like when I bought my nose, I usually see less red shit about. So I think it's real does it matter for lag and stuff. I don't know. I'm actually surprisingly copyright this trip. I didn't sleep that much on the flight over. So who knows we'll find out tonight. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good thing. It takes two or three days for like the jet lag to catch up on the by this time, it'll be three rd already back in you'll be back on US nine. Now. It's the west coast. I'll be three hours off. But instead of the thirteen I think that's a show. It is a show. Yeah. It's always a show anything else Montoya. Should we get more dimsum or model airplanes or both authority both? It's the plant than we'd better get going. All right. Well, you can find us on Twitter at dots lines or dots. More lines dot com. This is also the time when see turns off the podcast. As he let us know post on the patriotic he wants, and yet leaves comment here from you will next time had traveled. See you later.
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DJ day. Listen to me, baby. That's all you gotta do all shit Monday morning. You're sitting there thinking what the fuck is. My next step. Listen everybody had hardly last week that gonna week that we going to work after two weeks compusure Thursday in Christmas. It's a mother of you had a rough week last week. Guess what I had a hell of a fucking we last week by Friday. I was just burnt the fuck out how burnt that. Mentally emotionally, psychologically, I went to fucking acupuncture and thank God for Chinese people. Jesus walked the he put me back. He put two thousand needles in me. I went home. I drank water. I woke up Sunsamay more had to I thought I had to wear a gas mask, and that it's like fucking career from you know, when they make the bombs you shouldn't career. I thought it was in the dock that motherfucker at the all the toxins on my body, all the Maluku. And I had a great day. Sad having great day today. And Mondays a beautiful Debbie live the Agostino. What's going on? What's up? How you doing the casinos? Fucking host of the home school podcast, y because he was home schooled issue is got problems. And they wanted to why you got this fuck and moving the Laura over here. How are you my friend? I'm beautiful Jimmy looking good, man. The Eggleston reason I have you here is 'cause I'm pretty thank you. You know, people I don't know what is the last RIA four years. I just had a long conversation. A woman yesterday who approach me as a marketing check and turned out to be a chick living in her car. That needed money on Christmas day. And. She said that she wants to be an actress. Dollar. It's a long way to the top on a rock and roll. And really just. I could tell the crowd. She was hanging around with by listening. She said to me that guy like may give her a referral into an agency and that the agency would pay for your head shots and all that stuff. And then they would put you on the fast track. Glad this girl. I I thought she was high on Sunday. Yeah. And I took your ear beaten something like that. And then she became my Facebook friend, and yes, they like I had a rhino long. Facebook message like like she inferred to me that I talked to friends doing projects and stuff like that. And I go number one the great place. The great thing about living in this talents journey and number two is I can't take your acting classes Hoy. I can't make those situations for you when you're comfortable when you learn how to addition, you know, I wouldn't send somebody off the street toward in a less. They fit the part. Sometimes it's. Just to get a regular Joe for three or four lines to give that scene intensity. But and my world here in sag. There's a lot of actors trying to work. I can't see that happening any more. You know, I know people with tremendous resumes. The harm Thakin working. Now. There's more TV than ever, you know, everybody's making original fucking the team. But nobody's working. But that's the situation. I saw you. I am watching lease progress. Okay. But the same time has couple years. I I'm watching you, you know, three or four I mentioned nine years ago. Young kid. The. And you would put me up at night with no drama, and nobody would bother me Tommy one to go that ten minutes later. I was up. I'd walk out. There was no podcast. Nobody knew about a podcast and right? I was just working on Gabriel Lacey's thing and the whole foggy Dale in that. After a few years, you working at the heart how which is a comedy club in north Hollywood. It's been this Jesus Chicago, a recently moved to Newark Gatien, it's very nice and stuff an integrate club, whatever it feats, if it's different need than the comedy store. The laugh factory the improv as complete different flavor. Just how flappers has a complete different need when you walk into flappers. They don't have fucking Whitney Cummings der on Tuesday night, and and Sebastian and fucking eighteen of killers. You know that Whitney Cummings during a guest of the new stuff, and that's it and comments you'd never seen heard from before. I'm not putting them down. Anyway. But I saw you. You know, work at the fucking thing. And then you worked at Hewlett at the Arabian. Check you married the right right right with the CBD OC. Touch glass, you could be out. Take your shoes off you had to sit there and she'd spray Lysol on every eight where does the time. Go man crazy crazy with over there for Christmas to one year at there's not gonna snow league on fucking plan. I'm with the girl. I'm all. That's right. That's what I made a lasagna. Got sick. Lee me. Yeah. Boston the girl I'm gonna marry I'm my weight on the plane before shoot ship at your. Metaphor weeks in that she would attack. That's exactly what he's the there. I was you got me yelling and screaming Jesus. Because he goes I'm here in Boston showing the girl I'm going to marry that mice home platelets. Don't give a fuck what you showing all you need to show is you dick and play Spanish music. Mexico. That's all you need to do get home into the pipe. Cast was you'll live with. Yeah. Then you gotta divorced. Yeah. Then you hook the put some fucking chick. What does he don't? Just retarded. He just got. And then you quit the ha ha yeah. Which people don't know about this. This is the biggest transition in your life. It really is. It's. Getting to a point your life. When you have to. Tell somebody you have to move on. Yeah. Some people leave a note to never call you. Some people, but there's a day that you look at a job. And you you know, what man I've done my time. I've been awhile servant. I'm gonna move on. Because I've seen every comic come to here. I've asked every question, right? Yeah. That request. Yeah. You know, I worked at the comedy club. And it was my life. You definitely learn a lot like my job either at five was there to qualify waiting for the comic comments like ask him if he needed water, and then I would ask him questions. How's the road? It sucks, man. I got four kids to pay child supports a moso schoolteacher for. I gotta get back on the con- to Mexico night. Damn and teach at school eight in the morning. You know, you talk to all these different types of comics. You get to see it from the perspective that a lot of people don't see you're working in the club on TV. You see? Guy for twenty minutes. He seems like a sweet money. Meanwhile, I'm between shows he's fucking minus up the ash heroin in the green room when if you open up the door get your fired man because he's one of those fucking guys. We've seen it lately. Yeah. Yeah. You know, just a bunch of just mischief of green rooms and shit. So you quit this job. And it's funny. I tell people this all the time. And I did it. I did it for a long time that transition for me was nineteen ninety four ninety five. I was just starting to cover. My nut were comedy. What's cover my not eight hundred a month? I was pulling that eight hundred three or four months in a row. I would steal alone. More and bring it back a summit KMart. I always find ways to to help supplement my income, my comedy income but in bowl the from like December ninety four to may of ninety four I was between eight hundred and nine hundred a month just in forties. Fifties hundred dollar bills. Maybe at two hundred one you know, what I'm saying. Yeah. That's how I made a living. But at the same time, I was still getting up and selling cars used car dealer in east Colfax trying to squeeze out three thousand dollars. And I was there physically, but I wasn't them mentally like mentally. I could not wait on the road. Yeah. I was ready. I was killing all these rooms. I was doing twenty minutes. I leave the be like the rest of these guys sitting this fucking Serkadi fucking circuit or do something about it. I had a little fucking car that had everything you needed. And that, you know, and I never forget going to know. I didn't have to tell the boss. I quit the car. They gave me as a demo blew up on. And I just left it there. Equal you Faulk. You cock sucker. I just never went back and damn became a professional comedian. Was that in Colorado? This is Colorado. And I never forget how scared I was. And don't get me wrong. I always did something everywhere. Like on the triple runs, I would bring back tents KMart. You know, this nothing to be embarrassed about this broke. You get that you start doing when I got the Seattle. If I sell coke I would sell while ago. I didn't give was taken bets. I was doing whatever I had to the settlement. My comic income. Because of the beginning of the month. You all started zero. That's very scary thought, I work on commission. I'm not different than any of you guys. At the beginning of the month. I started zero. Everything I bring in after that is cherries, rapes, sometimes you bring home with green. But every month. I started zero. What show up to a job every day with punching in you punch, anywhere you or you do. But I get the reference it's just really weird that, but in that time, I've watched you grown as calm like you even with this day job, which I know you need to sustain married or whatever eventually one day have to this day some talking to the day, and I had heard it from Shubra. I had heard of a couple of people somebody mentioned to me at the store that you kill them. One of the rollers one night, the Meli rooms on like, okay? And Schubert said that you will get really good. Yeah. Had a great week with him. And I sat there and I thought to myself well. Two years. You know when you keep. When you tell somebody like why told? When people come in Sioux cross and Lisi and he's been doing comedy for ear. And Lee gets little breaks time-to-time at the store the main room Heyer that I won't leave understand anybody else. If you Trish in a you you start as an apprentice to first year is. The first year is the hardest fucking year of your life. Or an reality. It's the easiest here. Yeah. Because after that it gets really fucking hard. And no matter what level you're at this always going to be resistance at that level, whether you work in the attrition shoot. You know, let's say they'll traditions unit. Right. You have to you're at say you start as residential YM. That means you're you're attrition. Help. Will basically that means of the Trish in comes in and says you today the state on his room Wyatt straightened out, let another outlet for lights gotta hook up some type of panel. And he leaves basically he charges forty eight thousand our for that work. But he pays you eight fifty. Yeah. And even though you get fucked in the ass. This is what it takes to be an apprentice. You gotta pay you do. And then you get good at it. You know, you good at it than one day that you didn't off Saint John commercial job, and you have to start bending pipe and making saddles you have gone to a room and you look at an outlet. And it's got by going down that pipe was back way that by came might that bent. No, you gotta get a pencil and do math measure bend the pipe, just perfectly fucking install it. It's a lot of work when you do a bathroom, you gotta usually outlets. So if the trinity is plugged into your raise it falls in the water the shock stops in the room that that set off a little. Yeah. In the bathroom is super when you're Trish three like after ninety days, I was behind houses and fucking any. But I took a course from the the electricians. The guy with the inspections for the town. So he taught me everything out of doing code. So it was a three month course. And the project was at the end you had a wirehouse. But that was the final job. So he would. Yeah. He would put me in you in the fucking house that was on the construction and he would make wire room, and I did such a good job that when that night on the walk back. You say you wanna get you job on Tristesse helping Ahmad just let me go yet make a corny got me a job. So they started figuring out that all the jobs. I did by myself the guy would pass because I was he was mice. I was student. So that it will always the ruble was whatever that guy comes to doing the special just leave joylin don't even be because he would walk me through the inspection. And look at things the way jeweler that ad. Yeah. It was tremendous. But my point is that I had eh even known. I knew they would try djing forty to fifty out. I was getting nine dollars. And they're making money off me my point being that working is hard. But in every position you have to serve apprenticeships, and I've seen you do it. Yeah. You know, I've seen them the Dow, right? Do it you've been doing comedy longer than? Yeah. That's crazy. I was brought up in the first time on stage at an open mic. Hopefully. Yeah. And there's no time limit to getting exposure anymore. It used to be a lot longer than what it was. What is now is you had to come here and away and get into one of the clubs and fucking wait for HBO comedy central one to give spot and once you got that type exposure now, you don't need that. No more with the internet. So people know what all rate you, motherfuckers. Look like, you know, what I'm saying? Like, they know what? Everybody looks like what I wanted to stress this podcast. And while I'm so proud of you is that you went from guy, you quit this job. You went from Hudson little gigs, you know, again because of your marriage whatever was which I was against in the beginning. Because I wanted you Don the stand the concept of comedy. Comedy. When you go on stage by yourself. Okay. I was watching the sopranos last week. And I was thinking about what a horrible life. That you hanging out with your friends. Right. We'll fronts and we do everything together. We still together we rob trucks together one day. Like an old man approaches us is hey, man, you fucking chubby over here in the fucking home. School up have been making three four jeeze, Robin trucks. You'll would may now. And all of a sudden we start Robin chalks this guy, and he gives us bucket. Now. A Robin break time trucks with fifteen thousand dollars a piece and drive a nice 'cause shit. And all of a sudden one day Lee gets a call that may and you got to go meet fuck enjoyed Peres shoot him in the head and neck see another taken to a room, and that put a needle enough ING, and we're in the fucking mafi. And next thing. That's what we do me when Lear in the fucking mafia, and we're shooting people in gambling every night, but somewhere along that one day, you meet a girl. And you get married when they leave me to grow. He gets married, and when I meet a girl, and I get married, and now we start having kids will guess what you still go on shoot people. That's when it gets hawking weird when you still go shoot people come home and act like nothing happen. And you gotta sustain a house. Like six seven eight Jesus month, plus the six you gotta kick upstairs so to make this type of money your booking your selling heroin. But at the end of the day, you're going to a nice house. When you do comedy in the beginning. It's great to do. But. It's hard to do with somebody at home. Do you know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's what I was against your marriage. I like, Jen. Yeah. No. Yeah. I just felt that if you were going to do comedy if you quit the it was to do. It wasn't to do anything else. Like, go home to your mom and go mind, a meant that closet. I'm giving you two hundred month for the closet. I'll sanity the money on C. You, you know, and I'm gonna go on the road for a year. Make my name for myself and work these shitty. Fucking rooms and get ripped off and work for French fries is sleeping you call. Then you come back here. And you're now when you go to the improv they tell you that don't want it. Gives a fuck. I know I paid my dues saying so you come back to three months, and you go back out there for another nine ten and you live on the commando rules him saying, very, cheap veggie cheese sandwiches subway. You lose dirty forty pounds. You work at the hotels or no hotels. You bring way three in the trunk your car. I had a basketball in the trunk of my car for his be I had everything never be bored. When I first started, you know, I didn't want Genta go through that with you. Right. Obviously you adjust it the game for yourself yourself little day job. He just kept nipping at the bud. Monday night. She go to your boys rooms day night. Ever may rose has a room next doing spots at the comedy store. You not a regular. But you still have to store your in the farm like, right? Exact playing for the Yankees, but you're playing for their fucking farm team. Yeah. And it's really we have been doing comedy for now. In february. You'll be ten years this. Heavy-weight for it. Yeah. Man, it I mean, I got lucky in gen super understanding about everything, but I never made the day job in excuse. 'cause I knew that that would be easy to do to co. I'm tired when you get eight hour shift. You know? I always make sure that I'm out even afterward. I tell you all the time. I sometimes I don't go home. I just go straight to whatever have a spot. I make sure to podcasts the week. I mean, I realized that consistency is fucking game to play how thirty yes. You can't fuck around you started during the you start realizing what makes sense, and what doesn't you don't see the whole plane fleet feel, but you'll Lee start to make sense house Benfield like with the day job and going out at nights. I mean, it's back in rock some days. I am tired. You know, it's exhausting. But I mean, I'm young what am I gonna do? You know, I gotta do it now. And I want to be doing it when I'm fifty amid nights you go out. For five four or five and then always to podcast week. And you know, you I I'm starting to see people telling me things like you're getting better. You told me I'm getting better Schubert. Everyone started telling me do you're getting funnier getting strong, and it's really nice to finally see it. You know, when I did those shows with him in Arizona. There was eight shows that we did in five days in every single show, at least one person came out from my podcasts, you know? And it's finally great to start to get recognition because doing the podcast for like a year or more is like you point. I asked myself like what am I doing this for you know, you start to see like the numbers not really getting higher? But I just gotta keep going. So like that little bit of people. Tell me bro, you're getting really fucking funny or people on Twitter going like, oh, great podcast. I started to go like, okay just keeps me going like another year. This is a game in ninety days when I was doing comedy. It was a ninety day thing. I didn't know nothing beyond ninety days. Nor did I want. Yeah. All I was worried about what this week is. I got a spot next week. I was owner. I got a spot the week after that and Spokane, you know, I didn't worry about that long distant goal. Even though I had the goal where I wanted to be around one of that that I didn't think about it as much as the next ninety fucking days. You know, and I still remember having a day job and doing comedy at night. That was rough. Yeah. That was rough going home taking the shower or sometimes sometimes and sometimes going right to the gay and being the second comic up, and then going on, you know, go or sometimes you rush all the way over there. And you get your last and. Fucking go home at two in the morning. And then you fall you're all wired up from being on stage. You gotta try to fall asleep, and you're sleeping. I do whole thing. All over again. You know, when you did the thing with Shubert. Yeah. Some me approach you said that if you put together something they might be able to get into festival, right? Biggest prestigious festivals in the country known for comedy, I know been invited. Now, they want me to go. I've also never been invited. When I was struggling. Nobody wanted to same yet. That's how it goes. Right. It's crazy. How I thought about it last night when I called jump to be on the podcast. I gotta back those ads very proud of you and be. Yeah. People do things for the wrong reasons. Sometimes there was a guy that came on this podcast a lot that I love dearly till his dad daily. But also peace respect from. When he told me he got rid of his podcast because it didn't do anything his career. That's what the biggest misnomer misnomer is these things. And it bothers the fuck out of me. I don't know. How many nights I'm sad here. And I've b- will did Leon why he hasn't opened if you opened up podcast cool, call it become the next Joe Rogan. It would be off the change your phone wouldn't stop the fucking credit cards wouldn't stop boring. It, you know, it member ten years ago you came out here. And I've said this before because of now. Joined ground wings problem picks, and you did the whole eight year program, and you got discovered then they put on a sketch show for FOX six episodes. They can't play shit. You know, there's really no if you the SNL ago, fuck your mother, you know, they just like the wings with that. Should see the them go. Fuck your mother, and they look for what twenty to twenty five year old asset out after that the pretty much done. Right. It look for young cats on that. So it's a short window. I know I was going with this. Still doesn't matter. It's like it's so weird. How I just watched you keep grinding it out. You didn't ask questions? Jimmy, Shuba toys, you work high. Throw you work, obviously going to San Jose with rice Valentine's Day weekend. It's just really weird. And then the daily said to me, I came in those you know, what I've been doing comedy for year. I did four hundred ninety sets the day, and I was very happy vally. But again, I'm on those guys that I don't think stuff I live so much in the moment on think about stuff is people saying that I think about stuff later I've noticed lease Eliah. He's been on state since October of two thousand sixteen I didn't like five times walk that yet you like five times even weren't doing comedy for year. I'm really breaking ball. I really breaking balls people. I know lease I ATF, I don't know. How many is probably eight years. Can't stick nothing for ten days. People ten days. I live this days. I wanna cry. He's the ten day three week guy. And then something happens, the food get the livid, my mother, juice. We want that you say the grudge match. He was big Chinese. At the drudge match people say they camp saying he's got a Mike. That's leave any clock in showed up one day. Like yet aids. His lips to suck. Then on a juicer. I've been living on fucking carrots and James, and he would sit here with his green paste and drink in front of me with this looking face. It was like had the taste ten different sperms shaken up. Ella got really fucking skinny. And then he snapped. He met Paul the member. Yeah. Of course, he went nuts point there. He lost a lot of weight on away them. Twice. 'cause then I lost weight. Go his house now kettlebells fucking juicer got more dust. Is sister to raise the juice, bro. It's hidden. Yeah. It's hidden everytime. I think about doing I think about him Rambo. He's got fucking camouflage on it. He's had fucking bombs and grenades. It's between the toaster in the blender. I'm saying that Lee is from that generation that a like a lot of us. We don't let the miracle happen. You have to let you have to put the time in to let the miracle happened with Joey. Five years. My father wants me to join the army then. Pick something and commit to it. And stick around to the miracle happens. You'd be surprised you'd be surprised. I don't care if you work at footlocker, and you're like, you know, what? College degree in marketing businesses, the best. I could get his a sales job info. Okay. Going with the intentional taking over the company. Going out with a simple goal. You know, take over the company. But what does that mean? Okay. That means the first six months next year when you get the job, you're the sales of the month. And they make assistant managing still sales. That they make it managing your cells the month. Then what's the next move district? Manage ninety telling fucking be WADA how the run for stores now that use different stale techniques at in all start somewhere. We don't believe in. More. We believe in the system that we go to college get the diploma, and we wanna go right to that position. And I wish it was like that. But I see a guy like you add, for example, we that Lee, but in some dyes that bothers me, but I am the standing needs to do. There's nothing I can do about it. I can't do the work field. If you look at fuck in any when you're in the fourth grade, how much do you hate them at each because remember you come on going the kitchen started conversation with your father by Germany is something that he was interested in and then start hitting a mistreated fucking questions. What's twenty one forties? He would give it to you. Write it down. What's didn't you get the answers from him? Then the next day. The teacher would say, where's the show me to work? Whereas the Wadham there's not a one over the eight. Yeah. You you just wrote the answer because I raised it. Well, go home to do it again. I did time stable. Yeah. You work in at zero. I get so frustrated. Exactly. Yeah. That all that show me the work frustrates everybody. People either get in or get the can he we've seen in the last year. We've heard people angry at me they wanted how they made podcast. They did videos this that you can't have somebody. I can point you in the right direction. Tell you the steps. Yeah. But I can't give you the best gift anybody give you and that's patients. Do you want me to sit here and tell you I had patience it'd be a fucking hypocrite every ninety days, I'm going to coke Benjamin cry. You know, this guy was going to Montreal this guy book the movie this guy signed that. I see a this guy signed him here. I am with the coloring book talent agency, you know. And you catch yourself doing it, and you go like, I shouldn't be it's not even jealousy. But I should be like worried about what that guy got night. You know, yet you're doing it when you're doing it? And you know, you shouldn't do it. Once you see how much time your mind this taking on that stupid Energia, you realize that that energy should be focused on new so better. I mean, it's such a human reaction, though, is to go like man, I'm sitting here watching people fly by Ono. No. And that's the problem. You don't know. What time you don't know? What time all I want? You to do is know that when that time. Mm comes you. Better. Be covered. Joey, what are you saying one? You work on for electricians helper for four fucking years. You've been late three times one day. You miss because you sister-in-law guy hit by God. But besides that you always on time. You always the last one to go, you know, this four different apprentices. Yeah. I one now you're the best apprentice, stay got you trusted. They give you trucks on nights. You Ben pipe you install fucking power on the poll. You could start vein is eight. You're ready to become an Trish in. Or you've doing this. You need more man hours, and you probably need a take a like a written test because you have to two years now tradition as a help you become residential wired. That means I leave you on your law alone, the wirehouse that means you could get some sixteen in our fifteen hour seventeenth fifteen hour. It's not a bad living guys, especially view union. If you unit in the urine the apprentice program because the union to take a certain amount of classes every week. But once you take those classes still you have to put it a man hours. So once you have enough hours like I might be. I'm doing you to five six years. Now. I'm terrible. I'm puck and terrible. But there might be a guy that's been doing jujitsu for two years. And he's just insatiable. If I focus on him. I'll lose my jujitsu game. When I look at people's bounce. When I roll with them. I thought lose mentally it's the same thing with comedy. You know, what you did? I mean, I'm really fucking blown away the act standing I'm really blown away and evenly. I'm really blown away. Especially like, I said he can't do nothing straight for two weeks. Ron kite is slim by this mothers communist town. But you know, what he looks at it the on the stands it. You know, I'm happy. This is first year, but good luck. Now. I'll see you then come talk to me. Let me know what you think, you know. What's funny? I've never really been fucking. Captain commitment either. You know, like, I just I was home schooled. So all you're talking about is with with the math and stuff. I was doing with my mom, and it kitchen that's where we did to school. And then you gotta leave the table and go do homework by yourself. Then when you do in the work to bring it back to your mom, and I mean, a I imagine a lot of kids that go to public school. You were going to school because you parents pushed you or society pushes you. No one was really pushing me in my household. And when you do homeschool, do you like you got it's up to you to do it. And I wouldn't do it. I just I just fuck it wouldn't do it. I hated school. And there came a point where my dad had like a really bad surgery. He lost his kidney. When I was when I was like, really really young teenager. And he was in the hospital. The time my mom was taking care of him. No one was pushing me to do school, and I just fucking stopped. I just wouldn't do I wouldn't like grades missed. So then I towards the end of people started to pay attention me again, I had like make up for so much back work. You know? You know? And then I didn't go to college. I went and just did like jobs right away. Jobs at the mall. Whatever jobs, I can find what I always quit to do that. I get sick and stuff really quick. But stand up is the only thing that I did with me pushing me, you know, like that was everything else to tell me to go do it. But stand up I I don't know ten years the longest I've done anything straight. I have problem where if I didn't like it if I didn't enjoy like even in school like I liked history and English. I would do well in those classes, but math and stuff like my mom would was on me. So if I didn't get at least a be I'd get in trouble or something Zilog, I would work hard and work hard enough to get a beep. But that was about it. But if I enjoy live with stand up, then for I don't know I. I think it's, and that's that's what life is working hard at something that you don't like, but stand with that problem got failing to, but whether you like it if you like something you just like something like it's goods stage quickly. Yeah. Like, even if it's only one day bombing dome body gratifications a little quicker like you just you just learn. Just a learning experience. I feel really bad. And I've said this before on the podcast when I meet you that tissue paper on it. You spit in the. Okay. I don't my little Judea. Judy. I hate when I see anybody could anything. Yeah. Because I quit so many things growing up. I quit the bass guitar. You know? Said before I've had every job. I. If I wanted to do what I do it. If I would just say look interesting, I used to be one of those that was interesting. But once they make you do it. Two socks here before the movie cocktail came on. I just like my mom. Did it looked like it was easy bartending? These it looks it looks fun. It looks fun. It looks fun. If you're at the right bar is doing blowing each other in the end. That's what you see in Cali those way right here. And there's a dancing and show that worked it does VAR. That's not a real reality. You know? It's number one. The first time you get on the thought that stand out. I mean, Stanhope that stand up must be for you. What what when was it because I know one thing for sure, and this is what I know people are real when they're student of the game. Mike Tyson is fucking retarded. And I hate to say that not to mention he got hit in the head ten thousand times if I sit my Tyson here and talk to him about fights. We sit here for ten hours help to me to every classic fight. He knows every classic fight all the way back to the nineteen hundreds even in England, you know, 'cause they become students of the game. Explain to me how calmly came into your life. Was Dane cook. One of your early influence. Yeah. Absolutely. The mirror jumping up and down. You know, what I was a giant fan of stand up before I ever even thought I would ever do it. I guess my dad was really into jujitsu and all that shit like that. And try to get me into it. I was just more into comedy watching it. There is not really specials back then but you can go buy like a VHS tape of comics. You know, that's what I would do go get CDs. And then it I remember Dane cook was the one that kind of made stand up popular again. Like all of a sudden, my friends were telling me about stand up. I've been telling you guys about it for years. And now you wanna tell me about will you turning on it? I. I was listening to Bill. Cosby, okay. When I was a kid I feel guilty now a little bit now part of the US. Fan of the child rapist. I don't feel guilty. I feel really bizarre about it. I get mad at lethal this day. 'cause I'm never forget that they told me was he how much you paid. I think it was pre- Paula. When Ashley was Healy couch. I went to I went to go see him. It's rita. I didn't like him after ninety two before the rape charges. I didn't like them since ninety four since the Colorado anyway, well, he was obviously I Mr. hypocrite. Yeah. So it was Cosby, I I'd say Cosby. Yeah. One of the first hours. I watched watched botched was it the one with the dentist. Go Cosby himself. That's nineteen. What was it came on? Was like on HBO special the airedale HBO Showtime about stand up at the time. Did your friend say did you watch the stand up comedian? And you when I was eleven I went to a comedy club. And where at the ha ha. At the and the stage was on the other side. And I wasn't allowed to be in there. And not really. But you know, how you hear what your mom and dad is fine. You know, and I went in there. And I don't know what I was walking into. I knew of stand up. I never really saw before. And then I walked in there. And it was it was a black Knight. There's a pretty heavy heavy, black comics. This was if I was eleven then. Fuck mobile man, I nine to ninety nine ninety nine hundred thousand yes. And a lot of black comics, and they're just really fucking funny. One guy he's under these a standup anymore. He he worked with my dad. My dad was telemarketer at the daily news and that guy worked there and he invited my dad to the show. That's why I went, and I went to go watch my dad's a co worker, and he fucking did this when the are Kelly fresh out that kitchen song was was hot. He did like a whole parody on it. And today, if I see you doing music now that I know about stand up I'll fucking walk out of the room. But at the time, I was like this is like a whole new world of stand up. And I just I watched the Bill Cosby thing, then my family would watch the George Lopez. We were talking about earlier, the why you cry and we I watched that with my band. I would watch stand up with my family. I always loved comedy movies. I fucking big sitcom guy, I watch every day with my parents, then I found out Ray Romano did stand up and I was like oh shit. I had his album live at Carnegie Hall. All. And then I remember I started go the only public school type thing, I did was was Catholic school when you get your not communion, but confirmation I started to go and then one day in the confirmation we had like a retreat where everybody had to like do something. Everybody. We had a retreat is all we were like fourteen we all had to do something. And I didn't have anything to do talent. Like that. And I went up there. And I remember one Bill Cosby joke, and I went up there and told the Bill Cosby joke, and I said it like it was mine, you know, because unlike none of these kids fucking Bill Cosby's jokes. So I did that. And then I started to think like, maybe I could do stand up when I was maybe sixteen I still got the notebook. I wrote I wrote an act never performed it. Never once. I wrote like ideas, I wrote like an act like about like my nieces and nephews and jokes about my mom and stuff like that. And then I used to go for walks. Like, I said, I was home schooled that have too many friends. Besides the kids in my neighborhood, and I walked down to their house while I walk. I listen to my walkman, and I have one of the cook CDs at a time when he was hot. And I remember that first track where it goes track. One where it's like, ladies and gentlemen, Joey Dee and the crowd is track one when you always hear that Dane cooks out, and they kept going give it up for Dane cook. And I just kept hitting repeat repeat repeat I kept getting like like anxiety, and like like a high from here in the audience cheer for you. You know? And I just thought I'd say I wanna fuck and do it. And I kept telling myself, I wanna do it. Then like some family members and some friends encourage me. And then I finally did it when I was twenty I was working some mall job, and they laid me off, and I got unemployment, and I was like, well, I'm going to try to do stand up on employees. And. No, I went to the improv of Mike because at that time. I started going to after I turned eighteen I would go to any eighteen and over show and the improv had the early shows eighteen overlay shows at twenty one and over. So I would go to their early shows and started with improv wa watch all those guys. I remember being there one night. And it was like when they're filming the movie funny people remember with Adam Sandler and all those guys. And I went down there one night and everybody from that movie came down there to work on stand up, and they're not even staying Jona hill went onstage throwing and went onstage, and then they put on like, real comics. I remember like Ben Morrison was there and like fucking Greg Wilson and richer on guys closed out to show. And I just remember thinking like man, I always like imagine. That's me. I'm just gonna fuck and do it. I picked I asked my when's your open mic. The improv. They Tuesday nights and went down there, and I signed up. It was twenty years old, and I never stopped. You got on. Yeah. Now you now it's rare to get on there. It was rat a raffle back then too. But I didn't know that. I thought you sign up and everybody got up because I got up the first time. So the second time it went back is when I found out that it was by chance very very green to the situation of how it worked. How long what we doing for work that you still unemployment living at home. Yeah. I was still living at home. And what did you think you got up stays for the first time it felt so good? If felt really really good like I thought I thought I did better than I actually did because I was more happy that I actually did. It was more impressed with myself that I had to courage to do it. So the second time we're back. I thought I'm going to do great tonight to eight Abaga addicts my second time my second time. They just fucking stared at me where was your second Saint place, improv. And then. And then after that, I started going on Craigslist to look for shows I went on Craigslist. And you know, all these guys that run bring a rooms. We'll put ads on Craigslist like book yet the comedy store, and of course, your fucking kid. And you're like, oh all answer this ad. But it's really just a way to bring yours. Which I didn't give a shit. I mean, I brought people when you're new you fucking bring people get on stage. And I did this guy named you. Forget something gold, Joey gold, some New York I book man, like a belly room show than I met somebody else put me on this show. And then went over to the mic one day. And that ties started there. Before you started working? Maybe a year and a half after you saw going really for the open mic. Yeah. Because it used to be run by Eric allegria was one of the guys pretty much book in the shows there and Rico, and then I started to go Mike sent became close those friends, and then they will put me on Tuesday night show Tuesday night was like when Adam Hunter we'll go by Darren cargo by and they give them ten minutes. And then they throw a guy like me on for five. And they started giving me then eventually I got tight with Jack just because I was always bringing a lot of people. And I was always there every single day for the open mics and then shit just happened. They go you under your own show. And I was like sure that's how it starts. You do your own show that turns into you fucking work in there. Then you can't bring people no more because all your friends foot and saw you already now. It's like, okay. We'll we'll text these phone numbers and invite people for free tickets to come out and then you'll get five minutes on the stage. Okay. Cool DJ for spots. What a whole science having club given away tickets. I know what I got hit the comedy store had a room upstairs next to Paul office. It was five phones the guy that ran. This was ends Mitchell. Who is now the owner of that club on PICO the black club on Pika. Oh, really the union the union the union and Mitchell guy fair it was me. Shame Matache and the guy that was dating Kelly Curson. I just see online forget what his name was maybe two. And I job is just to call businesses every day. It was Joey Deism the comedy store. I love you heard lending their comedy store on the sunset strip is. We're Priok dice started to career. He's gone before you hang up is we do a promotional night once a month. And we picked your businesses. One of the businesses of one ten tickets yet. We wanna know able twenty-third a work all my God. I won ten take us to the comedy store went to the communist Eddie Murphy's got. Yeah. Then we would add in the next month. But they get a call again, they go, wait a minute. Oh, yeah. I keep winning. Do you call them? And I got so good at I became friends and most people. Yeah. Yeah. So they would call me when they wanna tickets, right? Yeah. That's all the time. Always wanna free ticket the sunset strip cry sakes. Hannity bucks, that's parking right barking. But there was two scams going on at the store that was the phone scam. They paid you flat rate. But there was also the cards scam which was two for one tickets, and if you were camping, and you put your name behind you got a dollar feeds ticket at the end of the week. So this time of the ear bowl year from the twenty sixth on I would drive my car at universal paling seven bucks in those days the park, and I would get in the middle universal by the fountain. Yes. That would just give away to his tickets with these giant that would get there at night, they'd be sixty people. Wow. Yeah. It was crazy because they walk wasn't wanting pretty good turnout. What does this this? I did it all when I worked in New York. I worked for a place. The comic strip you want in that are you on being open mic fine. Grab a pen. And they give you tickets. They give you physical. You'd have to sell them by the block. So it was ten blocks. Eight eight tickets and each block it was eighty dollars. And you kept forty of it. It was a creepiest thing. Yeah. So the first couple days, I latch time with the other comics that would stand online for the open, Mike, and I would fuck in. So those things door to door Manhattan, I go into businesses and it worked for about two weeks than when not I got coked up. I spent eighty dollars. Back a barrister. But it's just amazing things. They make you do at the beginning you comic, and you're not selling you. So something that it's also paying dues this. This paying your dues. Everyone know. You know way before that I worked at wits end. And it was a club in Westminster, Colorado. I I started I I started security as doorman, and then I started security, cedar. And then they made me a DJ, and I used to be the security the cedar and the fucking DJ, and they think they gave me like a dollar raise. And that's what I mean. I was never home. I was there from Tuesday the Sunday, and I had a roofing job in the daytime from in six to three in the afternoon. So I was putting in the Al Jack. But I asked all the questions I had. It took me from Mike February to July to get on stage. And once I got on stage. They're pretty much fired me they want me. No more because they will you do sand up. We can't have you know, asked me do guests that. Yeah, we were scared of we don't want the DJ to do stand up and show. We'll take tonight. Yeah. What do you think? I was in it for the money because he has pace. So great. Tips. Yeah. But you know. There was like when I I made that transition of like knowing it's time to get the fuck out of working at the club. When I I did that I had a really bad grudge towards the club. And I mean, we both did our things to each other. But I like right now, I have a really peaceful place where I just go like, you know, what man like I had to learn that shit. Eventually, I really did. Learn a lot about the business working there. And I used to tell myself if I didn't work here for the first five years of my career, I would have been five years Moorhead. I would have been at the comedy store five years ago. You know, what I haven't worked in five years. I'm still not a regular comedy store. But I learned a lot, and I would have had to learn it eventually same thing with my first marriage. I broke up with her. I was like booked up at you know, what I mean? I was I had so much anger towards we slay. Whatever you on Russian. Yeah. But you know, like, I I look back to his ex wife now, and I don't have any hatred towards like I did. I was I wasn't great either. I was too young to be husband and fuck in not home working on a shitty salary. Also out fucking Monday through Saturday, working at the comedy club. Wasn't there? What woman's going to be happy? Yeah. Yeah. No wom- women about security. And daytime security has to be covered a woman securities coverage. You don't give a fuck of you fucking hang yourself. She'll even show you how to do a born day not saying to teaching the board lane that that's not in the boy scouts will get you. She don't give a fuck. But they that's the woman's about security. Like, I look at my wife now today, I looked at different ways. Because when we started dating I moved in when there was no security. We all started zero every month. That Matt out funny. You were killed at the store last night. Yeah. Oh, great. We get the untorn comedy club. As a matter. Doesn't matter Monday, the first, and we all started zero. Now what we did last month. We gotta do better this month. Yeah. It's really weird. How comedy it's really weird. How making a living for yourself pushes me. Luckily, I was a commission salesmen. Which is a comedian. We really are commissioned sales yet. Oh salary and ninety days. No guarantee or bad. We'll give you thousand fifteenth. And then when you sell on the second fifteenth day will just wash the salary. We gave there's none of that shit EDM make it or you don't. So we have some nights you have four gigs and one of them, you get paid fifty bucks for but the other three two free of in fuck, and yet or you know, don't tell me fifty that. I did this and you can't figure out, but it's such a jerk. I mean. I'm thankful everyday thankful that fought him alive. I'm thankful. I'm still doing what I like doing. You know to. You know, I'm not forced to do with every week is about letting what you own control you and all that shit. I go it's not a job stand up his job, it some my needs to do the keep money on the food on the table. But it's not a job to me. I don't have to make eight thousand dollar logging them saying. Yeah, you gotta pay that eight grand that fucking those whiskies are a little harder and fucking on the plane. Whiskeys coming down that rough. Yeah, I keep my not love. But that's not. We're talking about here. What we're talking about is the commitment. I didn't even know what you tend to versity. Yeah. In fact, just happy that you're getting an opening to go into Montreal. Whether they say, yes, or no because I know to a guy like you guys like me. I mean, you don't tell yourself. I'm going to Montreal. What you tell yourself. I'm sending tape and hope they choose me. And I go to Montreal. And then a new set written sell Patrick Swayze t shirts at the Huc. Now. I haven't done that for months. It's just really weird that we live on a ninety day merit program. Like Lee said that to me. Now, you know, I'm like, wow, we has no idea that he's going into avoid text, and he's going into a void text that psychological it fucks people up. Yeah. Because when you bring home a report card, your father, hugs, you insist thank you for the on. That means the world to me Emma frame that you know, when even a dog when you fetch a ball and a dog drops the ball. What do you do you bend over in pet the dome with commun-? Nobody patch you. Yeah. You know? Dog Joe is come on meet at his gate. I go to Gigi bombs the next gig. I go to I'm not there, and you got a standing ovation and on the way out you go. Where was fuck by in there for that, you know, that it's just a fucking nightmare. And listen, I'm doing comedy twenty seven years, and I go through it. You know, me and Lee sometimes league goes to the storm because I didn't like that. What do you want me to do curl up at a ball and cry? No, you shake it off. You know, where you went wrong. I came out a little cocky, I shouldn't have said that joke. Appro I wanna show fully. That's what I get often frontally. And now the second set legal. Wow, you're destroy their own because you picked up year, whatever he learned a mistake. You learn the mistake this say failing in this is not your happy about it. If you like like, I like failing and do listen failing means you're alive. Yeah. We've associated failure with death. Like, it's this fucking thing. That was started scared to fail with rather. You tried even though I knew was a dog with fleas when you brought it to me I knew it was a dog with lease. But who fucking fuck tell you that. I think everything's a dog with lease. You know, you bring that's an idea our about vestments the dog with lease. You know, I just know what I know what I can help you with. So when you come to me with something that's not in my field. How can I judge it? You know, people always ask me. Why don't I judge killed Tony? I love Tony inch. I love Brian allege judge other kinds hard time with comic, he sucks. You know? Why is that's his dream? You sucking carpentry. That's. No, you ain't got. Not taking pictures. Right. I'm not worried about that. But when you come to me, and you go, hey, man, I talked in private, you know, my dream is to photograph Led Zeppelin, even though they're dead. I wanna photograph bands of that caliber, you know, how can I look in the eye or your dog, Affi sucks? Anything about photography. How do I know what you're Icees? I do know one thing. I don't fall five people take pictures of me on the constant level. And I know another three or four people that paid big money to take pictures of me. And nobody takes it better picture them. You Felicia Michaels or the guy from the store Choi juicy we sent this the next day. Now, I see I think he sent the the check. You see the headshots Troy into I go great. I got him. You're on stage choice the best of what he does. And I've had people pay people years ago to come into the store and pictures that you looking good. I mean, listen, I know I looked like carbon months, but you've gotta fee, I should take that. He added we this away and show them that one piece of beauty. But the point being who are you to tell that guy that he's no good, right? Because you never know that he might be perfect for some job out there. It's not that. I don't like flocking what people's dream. I fuck what you wanna be a dumb gamble. That's not a dream. All people confuse a dream with Hoppy, a dream of something that you feel deep in your boss that why you working at the DMV. Eight yourself, but you hate life, and you're frustrated because you're not doing what you wanna do. That's a dream. And you know that you dream. I you're not gonna make no money. I mean, my dream is to hang pictures up of athletes in fucking museum. And that people come by the why remember this game? Remember this? I got a great picture from garden shack of gins. Sid the squid the Sports Illustrated cover he said to me for Christmas dropped at the store. You know, I I would love to put a space together just to show art different Munt every month, the different people sports, art Huber Mont Armenian month. You know, like just I like the dog iffy. I don't know nothing about really. Yeah. I don't know about it. But if I did like, a Chinese art Monte brought a Buddha and a couple of picks to China coupled picks Chinese. People doing karate. Don't give a fuck. I love to do something like that. I just don't know how they even start. Do you charge? The painter for wall space because you know, thousand people gonna come through there every day. I don't know how to start. I love all that type of shit. But that would be a dream of mine that's a dream when I was a kid I used to work with flowers. Do you guys know that no one of your mom own part of them stepfather when he got out he bought into a flower thing. And I gotta tell you, man. That's a great business. Yeah. I don't know what the cost of flowers. Right. I can't imagine what they are. Now, all I know is every year, I see rose sales around balance Jesus Christ people fucking thieves, you did he assortment you. So you have fun doing that the guy in those days, I was about this is probably between eight and ten. And on the weekends. I would go update in the summers in the summers. I was delegated to the butcher. Shop. Part today. So the mornings I would start with the flower shop than in the Athens have to butcher shop. So we get up at like three thirty in the morning going into Manhattan up. The flower has taken back the jersey off stems the stem the roses that sucks. You gotta get a rose at. And then fucking hold it. And then take these stem in these stem the roses, and you have to do all that shit damage. I eight years old ten years old eight nine hang is. Oh, I would do that then help as name was Ivan. I would help him with the Legos means the arrangements that was put up in a front refrigerator and people come pick him up where they deliver them to funerals or whatever the fuck it was and when they once I swept the floor and everything was done at about eleven thirty. I would cross the street and they had a fucking butcher shop. It was really numbs operation, and I would go back there and the clean out the freeze sweep the front. Go get the guys cigarettes that was the easy stock the shelves that like olives and stupid shit. They would make me take out the old shit. I put the new stuff on so Leo Schick itsel just little tricks of the trade that you earned, you know. But I'm happy I learned all that stuff. I even know how to become that for years, I was dying together stock show. John Lewis jump pay. If you're lonely guy, you have insomnia go to your local supermarket those jobs at union. It's tough to get those jobs when you you're the rouse at six in the morning. Yeah. And the fop this ballots. Yeah. Up in things those guys say Union, Jack. To do that at CVS. Hanes guys. Get paid on palate. Those things put them stock the shelves and bring him back. You know, you have to there's an inspector spectacle. Go through the aisles he zeroes what he needs. You. Come by with a fuck and either pull cart, the one that you pull that Tron ick 's is well palette, you drop the palette and Lee has to loan in for the shells. I was trying to get one of those jobs for years 'cause they're eleven to eight they're eleven to hate with this. Nobody that is kind of weird you were saying earlier Haluk, we are who we are. I always liked working where the leg working nights. And then he start doing stay. You're just kinda drawn certain things. That like his young you were drawn to to stand up from an early age. Like don't I was drawn to stand up comedy on vinyl at an early age as a fan. Do I think about going comedy club? Not in a million years when it came time to quit high school the job, I quit ice with was a day job that after a month became a lot load loading job. But I knew one thing I knew at the age of ten though, I was never going to have a day job. I just know that like that was going to be a problem at all you hear about, but it's your high schools. His college is that you have to work in the city, and you hours nine to five and all this shit. And I were getting Zayed's thinking about it. I would see I would be hanging out at ashtrays my local deli, and I would see people getting off the bus at six and coming in for a sandwich or doesn't eggs. Yeah. Pound the cheese pound of roast beef and the next day sandwich. And the through would go away. It's always a big through the work of the city when you come from my area when you're three miles New York City, it gives you like that thing to brag. What do you do the aga- STAN ally work, I'm telling him? What do you do I load buses in Newark? What are work in the city pitch? He was way to say the city people who. Shot in the city. Sorry. I didn't ask you a question. And then it and it's gonna have a follow up question. So you've obviously we know each other for a long time. So you've obviously always been very good at sales. Yes. Would you say at of all the products to push is selling yourself was the hardest. Fucking one follow up question. You've had success in the last. I don't know nine years. And do you think that it was that your audience was always out there, and they just needed to find you? And now the podcast creative source to find you or do you think that over years you develop people to like you like did you? You make them like you by maybe salesmanship. What was the first question? So was yourself the hardest. Yes. Product ever sell. Absolutely. I'm not going to gig with some. I used to go on really greasy gigs where the promoter would make you go to local mall and give out flies to people. I'd rather you fire me. Yes. And me. Okay. I was never good at that stuff. Yeah. I was never good at making a flyer and handing it to somebody for somebody like for myself. Yes. I was always good at selling. Thanks. And when you get here, you have a go to show that somebody runs. And you get there in the places sold out, and they actually love that host. But in reality, he's just an awful fucking comic book for some reason. He this is way before social media. Yeah. I knew comics that through emails and phone calls and text messages will get eighty two hundred people to show what attacks message and they had zero time and they would go damn punish their audience. They would get a good budget from the house, they paid the headlines and the features and the other comics. Okay, but they weren't there to see those guys. They were there the see that host. And I couldn't figure out what it was back then and it was the are the sound ship something I had a hard time with. I have a hard time with people come see me. I'm a funny guy at eight thirty. That's hard for. Golly. May. But then something came. Was amiss use tool for people. It was called the internet. And it was fair game guy by the name of Dane cook had become a star using a site called my space. So every comic whether they were soldiers Bill Hicks, you know on but kennison fan. Do you think you think Richard pry, we'd go home at night and get on my space that was my response. Khimik? You think after Richard Pryor with do a set of the comedy store he'd gone to his room at the hotel in my space and people it's bullshit ballet, everybody got on my space to sell tickets. But that's when I realize what they weren't doing. They Dane cook was communicating where people I started seeing salesmanship now when you talk my name, but. So I started seeing. People giving away tickets. Or telling you, we're going to be in. I I immediately removed myself as a comedian, and I become a consumer grad thought how greasy is that that sexual harassment. That's why we Weinstein types. You're not you're not giving me any reason to give you consent, the touch my dick when I see fucking comic text or post. I'm doing the show tonight at this place tickets available here, I want to reach to the internet and smack them because that Ptolemy something his of giving a something. That you give them something. Then you so some when was the last time you went up to girl told you love and put your hand the veg- them enough. Throw you in jails by the what if that girl does have a crush on it, but you kiss a neck with ten minutes until how you take it to a date the Denny's and how you grand slam. Grassland shit because I know the waiter at Denny's. Kissing you on the neck, then he puts his hand between you like it's a way different game. Swayed? I wrote up. Fucking podcast on my space. That was published every apply a blog that was horrific. I would just take a segment of mile hyphen the ordering happened things that changed my life. When I wrote a blog, and I wrote for by eighteen months because I was in Deering myself to people before I could sell you something I have to endear myself to you. I have to give you a reason why why are they so hard to sell shirts because you'll see nothing. Yes. Yeah. You sign for papers. I shake hands on I leave. I saw your car. You drive the month. Yeah. I saw you. And I phone you draw us. So you about water dodger game you drink. It. Right this. I saw yes insurance you walk out of the question was by the time, Twitter and Facebook came together. I if you on the lie the lie to you. And tell you that when you're telemarketer when I read the ads on this show. I believe in these products, I really likes west base and on twenty people built a website was quiet space. Yeah. I think Felicia built my original what's Quispe. So and it's motivational for the business going and stuff like that. When I contacted to do squarespace. I enjoy referring squarespace. I don't know what the point was was appoint the reef is getting to daily companies who advertise with you believe in I believe in. But my job at the end of the day is to lead them to a website. The people listen to you. I need you to go to squarespace if you thinking about a website because I'm gonna cut you a deal. Okay. I'm not telling you this is an ad read. I'm telling you the truth. My job is to get you to a website. My job in comedy is to get you to the club to save me. Yeah. Okay. So in all this mice base Facebook was switching over. We don't want becoming this my space. We're going on with the benny's Berg. And then you might as well be on Twitter. I still remember certain episode Romans that I went up, and I said, I don't want to be friends with nobody on Twitter. Are you nominate times I eat those words now, but I have personal relationships people on Twitter from Janika Jane John Jones to fuck in. You know, the them I friends, I consider them friends and fans of fam- on fucking fans. So I ate my words. I was big enough. A man declare. As people on his book Berg when Bob knowingness best friends of the podcast. You know, they you France. Now, the infinite so. Yeah. I figured out a way out of sell myself who people come to the shows. But I have to show them something. I give them a taste of my music. What's in my head? I wanna know what's Indiana state. No said, I love it. When people start by cast. And they want to do everything we give people information they want, which is to know about you. When I see new over Sunday calls me with a podcast about twenty moving parts. Yeah. I avoid like a play those like gimmicky podcast. Makiya are leam is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Give me a podcast you give me a giving podcasts. Too many. Julia moving pieces, a podcast is to people having a conversation about a topic, and you tapping into my conversation. That's it. Plain fucking simple by goal with the podcast was to complete the circle. We talk this is free. I don't wanna dime from Yana pantry on. I'm not gonna shoot videos for you that ship sail unto up and Holt. I give you the pound cast of free. I get on Twitter. I talk about it on Facebook. You know, we do the periscope. And then when I get the a town you come to the show, there's a catalyst all this and it supplied gas. The podcast and many other things when I did the longest yard after I shot the longest shot. It was very frustrated. Why? Because actually I had the same prom. Everybody want. Everybody else town wanted to do. I put the thought that listen, you never know what you're going to do in this town to launch you. The Tiffany haddish. Was that movie took it from eating garbage to fuck him living in Beverly Hills. I applaud her no matter what happens what goes down. That's but having that talents of big launch just being here. You create opportunities for yourself. And sometimes Tony opens up boom, you then what if tomorrow lease doing a spot at some fucking how and somebody from NBC sees MRs alertly, the do a daytime fifteen minutes thing on the internet every day. And we're going to give you ten gram leasing call Agostino and gone on that talking about. But you gotta help me. Right. They shed now give you three thousand dollars a week, and you go then then people going to go. Whoa. But the Agostino Nana writer, why are you gonna Tam then the Steelers a new car left the two years or he clubbed the Stena walk center. He's gonna go. He wouldn't be anything when I lease. I. Yep. And you're like, wait a second. Exactly. How it goes? There was an opportunity there. I seized it. Now, that's the way it is. And how you fucking eight nine. Yeah. Oh, he's he wouldn't be anything without lease. I really go ask lease. I at least I tell you if that's the truth. Right. Will you say, yeah. I write sixty percent, but Fluck the Agostino some wop as while shoot. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, you take to a club with you to open. But guess what? If I bombed that clubs to tell Joey next time, maybe bring somebody else. Yeah. You gotta keep it work knowing maybe someone gave it to you. Also, let you walk home. And so you flight reservation. I call the lines J mill Baga bag in the bag homeless. And you read Larry Koa mandating cook though, either because he did that. But he he was he he he could have been not funny. Right. Like, he touched. Everybody in connected by everybody by by my space. But what if he wasn't funny? Like. Them work. Yeah. He put it great story about that. This is a very true store in the late nineties early two thousand one how this club in the country was Houston. And I spoke to a friend of mine of the Houston goes on my God. I can't wait Dane cook this coming this weekend. I always like, and he was very poppy in LA. He was starting to this is. Before that bar on suntan Tuesday's he was already getting popular at the laugh factory. People going to see Dana the laugh factory, and when Monday had Latino night that I was walking. And he was walking out. He like a guest Latino night. How you doing good? I go how is Houston. I'll never forget. This. I go how is Houston. Houston was a great fuck show was great week. But it was just a bit too long. Joey. He goes Wednesday through Sunday. And he looked mini goes. I gotta figure out a way short that. That's why when he started hitting theaters and arenas. It didn't surprise. He was over it from the beginning and his mental state. He was done with that. He had already done colleges. He had been sprinkling seeds all around the country in colleges for two or three years. He was just doing colleges building up these little markets that nobody else thought about going to just drop in seeds. And what do you think happens? What the fuck do you think happens? That's what happens, you know, people. Remember, Kevin Hart? Kevin Hart went Montreal. Whatever. I don't know the story I'm not either. But I do know that he got ABC sitcom. And it was supposed to be the hottest thing. Have ready got a couple of seasons than the thing went away. I do know that he called his age the next day. He goes take my coun- book every week. Pay me fifteen hundred dollars. I want you to give the tickets away. Because I'm still TV guy. They're still gonna come. 'cause I'm a TV guy. Just give tickets away. What whoever pays pays not comparable out? I want those room packed and he made all those free tickets. He made them painting next time. And he came back again the next year. He did the same thing. Every built he built he wanted to feed is until as in stadiums. That takes an enormous commitment. It's not a one year thing. It's a three year thing you're looking at you looking three years cycle. I'm gonna go forty five weeks, but three years, but each eighteen months, I'm gonna move up a cycle. Go from clubs to theaters. Put best I can that. I'm going to. He's been calling me every the mother pay no mind program last time. I went to Tempe told me Titas, showing them. Now, he gets got a poem an hour before I get them. Show. I torture little saying they can't get them. So if you don't know that when you go into it. Like, I wish I had a comedy at the plan at the three year. But you can't you can't have a plan. You only plan this to get on stage that you're only plan. Joey, I wanna be a good lawyer. We'll have to hang on a lot of fucking courtrooms by friend while the courtrooms every night. Yeah. But I need to study what you study at for the courtroom. Yeah. But I also need a job yourself. Fuck in delivery, a Uber. Uber. What the fuck it is moving yet. If you really want it and happens, but I don't want you to think it happens just because. It's supposed to happen. I it's also crazy how it's different for everybody. Like, do you see that thing that's Bashan put up with him? And it was like the news guy in BC nightly news to interview with him at the store. No. It was in. I heard the story before but he was a a waiter at the four seasons. And and they they didn't say this on that. But I've heard that he didn't go on the road as much as everybody else. Like he stayed in state and worked and just worked only at the store really around LA. It's pretty he he would go and do his spots on his break, gene. That's and things -iety. All was way too soon. Take restaurant pelota Jack on and go up there. Get off the store get this car and go back to the four seat. Wow. You know, I have problems raising comic in LA. But I don't have problems raising a comic away every knows where his positions he always knew wasted. He went on that tour, then he went on that tool would tap. And all those guys the wild west tool with Steve Byrne, oh, Vince vaughn's while many things and he lets right? He was on that. Tastic career. Yeah. But I never wanted anybody think he just happens overnight. And then he I remember Tim ten years ago, he was to favorite comic and the club at Addison, Texas, and that going joy have you seen him lately? Like have minute the store, and they go, it's brilliant. It's like, Andrew dice clay clean. Yeah. So people fucking love the junk up Dankuk shot to mention his work ethic. Old school Italian's got good work. I mean, you can't imagine that like you said he would show up on his vest change, go on stage and go back to the restaurant. Like, he can't imagine a work ethic like that actually. Listen, man, all these guys Bill Burr all these guys doing well here all have one thing. God. That's time. Include Joe road. It's time. Are we should fear twenty years time this time this time? This is a commitment. But again, I don't want it to our bond. Just stand up comedy this no matter what you do you want to be a good cop? You gotta be rookie. You gotta fuck and put out fledge. You've gotta change flat. She got to save cats. And then you gotta learn the other angle of it, you got to learn community service, and they take by the time you learned it all you already been in. And yet you can't prepare for this career. That's not really a career you can prepare for even if you go to college, and they tell you all this detested, and you learn all the graphs and shit. You're not doing it. Tell you there. But whatever you planning on doing you have to put time into a stain ah. What was dip between your old marriage? This marriage. A yet having that's a great point of difference. The time to fuck in time that you put in. What did you would you? Learn from my mistake of the first marriage. Thank you. Yeah. U dub. Oh, yes, sir mistakes that you make with the one eyed Mexican tons are you going to repeat them? Timeout to go. You know, when I got the vote for somebody asked me about this. I know how to destroy a house them saying. You want me to destroy house? I'm moving with you. And Jen by the end of the month general be out of that. Cheat on the road doing blow of Vikings in your pocket. Yeah. Get it done in twenty four hours a house. You know, I don't want to destroy a marriage. I did it. I know how to destroy marriage walk in my house by houses dente piece. Nobody raises their voice in maps. She yells at me. And she smiles while she's on them used to fuck, whatever. Yeah. That I but I have to work at that. You know, when I was a kid when I was a Spanish kit man, though is nothing more. I want to have that white aspect eight then together, nobody cursed the table. And I didn't have that. I would watch the Walter NHS. And all those TV shows, I go I go to lease a house mama that by me. Oh, when I would sit together they'd say a little Joop brab before that, you know pass around penny and lookout, shiny. It was able to Jews do before. But if a shine on that, Betty, how do you know fucking? No, I'm just making a stupid jokes. Urine for that. And now. I love when people approach me for different stuff. I look at projects and stuff like that. You can't take time away from me because I know what it means to them. I know what it means to have a safe house. I could go out for weeks in a row. A white would say word for me, especially when she got the checks a hand. It's not about that at saving our marriage. It's about spending time together. It's little things. You don't see from the first marriage. That's why you second marriage last week unless you pulled up some fuck and chicks. Has your wife finds out? She's rushing, they know everything. Find that you travel with a bug. You got GPS on your right? Yeah. As a matter of fact, she's listening, right? Rain rushing. Watching the livestream. The got a lot of things going on. What are your credit for the last four years? What am I credited for? What are you? What are you crediting it for like what what did you write every day? Yeah. You right. Every day. How long I could squeeze in half hour. I'm happy in the daytime warning. In the evenings, jokes ideas. Idea it bits you write goals. Yeah. Daily weekly weekly for the podcast a lot. I write each podcast. I try to write down. What I wanna talk about sound just invite you over to fucking waste your time. You know, I'm always have really betting Zaidi them invite someone to my podcast, and I sit there, and I don't have anything important to say to them. Do you you people depend on who they are. I mean, some of them I got no really really well. But then some of them, I go Google, and I you know, and fucking find that we compete the want. The show. Saying, yeah, we're thinking about like I like the Wikipedia and be prepared yet. Ten questions like the actors studio. That's not me. I just want the flow to go wherever the fuck it flows. And he sometimes sometimes I learn stuff, I didn't know about people, which is kinda cool, and you bring it up, and then it's a question. No one ever. Oh, no never ask you that on a podcast for like that do I like this whole punk. I never did the podcast to get success. I just wanted to have my work. My what I was thinking out there. I think that's very important. If your comic or that, they're you know, you want to make a difference or something like that. And do a podcast for thirty years. And don't get any more than fifty downloads a month. You stuck with it? And you proved your point and you got fifty people listen to you. Yeah. That's bay. Get fifty people listening never mind, you the two thousand ten million light Rogin, that's a feat. That's you know. Him and the other guys Conan has a podcast. So even starting podcast intimidating, but only intimidated if he'd doing it for the wrong reasons, if you doing it for the right reasons, I loved oh my podcast because I know I'm reaching one person. Somebody will be problem. Somebody who got locked up and came on Sunday doesn't know what to do. And that confused. I want them to know that there's no rules if he wanted you could take it you go get if you really want it if you wanna dick around and give yourself excuses. Triple 'love' yourself, then you never gonna get it just procrastinate and trust me. I was procrastinate. It took me two years to get on stage. You know, year and a half something ridiculous ridiculous to get on state's first time. But I like what you and lay. About doing this podcast is basically for both. The is very proud of these stuck with something for yearly. Now this year goes to stick with two things. Whether it's whacking off every day killing a fly off your neck everyday day off every day. He has flies on his neck Yesalis. Suave house leaks out of his neck support flag because he on time. Libraries plane cage Lee, that's the new t shirt emotional support. Fly little fuck and fly on it. Please flies guy little vest. Don't ideas as basketball, do it. Clearance-sale december. He's on roller skates for the month. Very proud of you. Thank you one this podcast, come up. I do too weak and it usually Monday and Thursday. That you know sticking to that. Yeah. I mean, sometimes I got to be flexible because it's hard to get fucking guests. I have a co host to our guest. But when you have a podcast, it's not huge really fucking hard to guests. And then you get pissed at people like you said, no to me didn't have time. But you did that guys. You know, what I mean, it's a little things like that. But with shows jobs as long as I get out, I'm happy, but it's pretty much like Monday and Thursday, go on your plate. Yeah. For wife, the job stand up live in the same building as you parent. Yes there across the hall. They come in time when on the wear. What's going on my foot? That Mike what's going on my tote take a look at it? Well, you fucking got to cut the nail fucking Z. Before I came over here. I was taking the Christmas lights up my mom's roof where you. Yeah. Good. Good. Good. But you know, I'm very lucky that my family runs a building in Los Angeles 'cause it's fucking expensive your I'm lucky that I'm from Los Angeles. A lot of comics had to move out here. I applaud anybody that had to do that. I don't know if I would have been able to do that. But I already lived out here. And I'm lucky that my family had a building that they run and I get to get pretty cheap rent. I mean, I'm not getting it for free but discount if I can helps out. You're young couple. Yeah. And you're both trying to make moves, and yeah, I'm just wanted to put you on the podcast. Jose would make fuck you February fourteenth to the seventeenth nice. It'd be going to original Joe's in the steak meat. Boy, never been it. I've never done San Jose fucking see this the ways I can't wait for some rigid. Joe don't even look at him. He and he lost credibility. I went to Joe the San Francisco Paul they signed up for some look at San Francisco for the is trip. Food door didn't go there. But then then last year when I went to San Jose did not go to Joe Joe's. Yes, they tweeted at me. Would you go with Paula? It was right before we broke up. You know, what I was thinking about the day when you do the San Francisco punchline hotel, they put away GOP cheap. You know, is is the shit. I don't think I've had like another one is good since then this fucking neighborhood with these fucking. I went to. Grow. What I try that Paglia cheese Pino, they cook it in like whitewater. You know, what I mean like, they're not cooking white wine. You can tell there's no flavor you gotta you gotta cook Schiaffino and white wine. Would you like from? Good pasta dishes. You're gonna go. Pasta dish and say, which one are you get to one with the with the lambs meat and the me. Okay. No. I'll have to try that next time. I got like a chicken all of this. Okay. There bowl as one of the best. I've had really nice ball. And as they give it on a home cooked fresh noodles, they make the noodles fettuccini. Okay. Tastes like that was watching sopranos the day when you take the pasta drain it. Then you put butter on it. You put a couple of sourcing eastern for the first minute. So the pastas freshman jobs sauce, a lot of people on the stand that concept. Yeah. When you first get it you have to drain it put it down. But a piece of butter in there and poor little bit source and stirred for two minutes. So that sauce goes into the past. Yeah. You don't just. No, no, no. No. No. No, no. Besides San Jose. You got me dates, brother. I had a pretty fucking busy January. But I have nothing really in February besides San Jose. Right. So you would and San Jose the fourteenth seventeen. Yeah. Then the following week treasury island and San Francisco on the Las Vegas and the twenty second and the FOX theater motherfucking Tucson, Arizona on the twenty three. That's a tool with Kate. Quigley nice. Another tickets are a little extra Vegas on bringing on till you're fucking. I'm beside that the I just wanna tell you an Liam Bolton proud of the boat is thank you. That means a lot that lease stuck with something for year. I hope he continues to stick with it or not fucking taking on Mary over the weekend. He disappears. You saying that is one of those things that I was talking about that just because like, okay, they consistency. Does work. You know? It's just here. Listen, consistency does work. It's boring. It's bore. You know, every well, especially when you don't see the payoff right away in calmly every ninety days is psychiatry Bill. You hate your wife everybody because you don't see results the results happy. Yeah. You're just not giving it enough time let the miracle happen and once the miracle happens now, you wanna get stronger now with diet coke. Yeah. There's a point where like, you know, comedy all my life. And then at the. The fuck and twelve year, Mark. I went crazy them. Hey, what Happe this? I was about to take a shower. It was four forty five. And had a birthday party at the house. My daughter's sixteen the princesses all need. It was a little gay boy with a whistle some music. We would have had it off. But it was still a great time. But at four thirty mount don't watches something. Oh, mercy. Allie will get ready and mercy had to go get ready. My wife had a brush a ham put up Princess Kosta month. So as I'm going to show them thinking to myself, and something just can't my mind, Krista Pettit. Krista PETA is. What's the guy from Mike? Molly. Billy Gardell, where we those manages Krista. Okay. Says day one. He's never fired. Christa Christa pet owns the punchline that land or used to own it. I don't know what the politics on. Okay. I was saying about going Krista patter. Because when I got here ninety eight he was very good to me. They were doing a pilot, and he wasn't even my manage any made call for me. So I was just thinking about Christa Penon. I start thinking about the punchline like why don't I go there because it was an hour drive from the airport and we left on Monday morning Rogin. We didn't think two hours on almost away. And I'm making a mental note. I'm never coming back out here or whatever. But I remember that specific weekend. And how we did five or six shows, and I bombed for those shows, but that's the tape that if you ever see on YouTube of me, callin Dunkin and harassment for being involved with devil worship. That week it's on YouTube. It's got a couple of million hits red band makes this is red band was just Joe's cameramen. Okay. It was me. Ari? Joe Tate and read ban on the road every weekend. And there was a lot of uncomfortable times, you know, Rogan rent a car, I need to know where he was going. So I would get into arguments, and you know, the day that they were telling me that Duncan was a devil worship. I left him a message. Fuck him in the ass. And all that that was the weekend. I had away four hundred pounds and that was on state talking about eating pussy in some way in the back heck away. She goes who would fuck you like it was just God off a weekend. And this is nineteen. This is two thousand to two thousand three I was already a regular at the store for four or five years. I'd been on mad TV on the if we get some lady yelp. Who would fuck you? And I'm not even like people laugh shit. It was just a rough weekend. But because I was drying myself off when I came out of the show. I that's as good as it gets. Like that was as good as it gets. And I got dressed and the first guy called redback. I go read Ben, you got a minute. He was enough. Carolina doing kill Tony. Go minute weekend went to Atlanta. And we tape the thing for Duncan I bomb. We all laughed about me bombing. Like having a rough time I had a follow Ari. And I just had horrible material. All I can't about what's not coke. And I go read van tell me to my face at. That's not wasn't as good as it really was. And I started getting the motion. And I waited ten minutes. Call the Rogan picked up like got two minutes. I remember that time we went through Atlanta and wand and the lady heckled, Maine said who would fuck you. He started laughing. He goes, I wrote a joke about it. Yeah. He wrote the joke about it. And he goes, I go that was as good as it got the main pro. Bombing being a feature acting a hotel. Like, yeah, gets you. You're having the timing lifetime. My wife that weekend. Like, we would all eat together. Like five of us will eat together. Nobody without anybody. You know? I think we were smoking dope at this time. So we were smoking dope. Together. Those tours a reflection of what I'm doing on states today. You're gonna go boaty is after go on twenty thousand. You know, where you're just a bottom, man. Like, I was the bottom, man. It was REM me. And everybody hated me. And they love Joe, but they hate us. But those as good as it gets you don't know why you're going through it. But the education I got those games of Hawaii. Today's. I'm really proud that you never gave up really proud that. You flip the switch. And even though you're married. You worked at a yang-yang situation to continue comedy in grow. I hope that you do get your tape out there that you're gonna Montreal. I we should a lot of success Lee. Thank you. You are great comedic writer. You are we on? Woody. Thank you Allen. I don't I hope you don't gotta pedophile funky. Cousin? But you are the next forty out. You did great at the store the other night that everybody was saying and for you a way way way ahead of made my first year. The only thing I had on. You was I we won a national contest. But you gotta amendments not how many people you shoot it to you shoot. So don't worry about that stuff. That's the only thing I had on you, you comedy wise, down wise, you have me by fucking more than those by. Appreciate it. I I. There's part of me that like if even weird like sometimes when I'm only doing ten part of me is kind of wish was doing 'cause he fifteen or twenty. It's like, it's I just wanna do more stand up. And I definitely if I got an offer to be on the road every week. I'm not saying, I wouldn't take it. But it's right now, I just want to be able to do more. It's just that. It is tough for me. Like you said it's not as tough when you do badly. If I only have one set, and I don't do. Well, I'll be sad until the next day as a big time gay comedy that comedy available. Dan. I'll do it how they dance for form. You whatever happens in twenty minutes, then those row gigs pro just fucking. He makes a beast all excited. I'm excited to do. Those those don't shows on the road like a bar. The last time I did bonkers put me in this giant fuck and room. There was no one in there. And they told me to go on stage. Anyway, I wouldn't get paid. I had to go up there like an idiot and do stand up for for the empty chairs literally not one person in there. And then when you show up at the bar show in downtown LA and all those other guys are eating addict, you're going to go up and kill because you know, how to fucking do horrible rooms like oversight. It was a restaurant where no one was paying attention. And because of the show I did at Eddie Bravo's, they were paying attention. I knew I had to approach it a little differently. And after the show the Booker actually just booked me again because three different people love that guy. I just they had no idea who I was. But it's it's cool. When you see something again that you bombed out once you like, oh, I can at least I have an idea of how to handle the differently this. And this goes across the board for whatever you're doing when I was roofing these principles apply. Plumbing, principles apply. No matter what career you have that you looking for advancement. It's all the same path. It's time and opportunities one day you're gonna be there. Seven years, you're gonna go one of gonna raise all I want to raise for dollar, and they call you in the opposite that guy that was your boss is quitting. And you got three dollar raise. And you go Jesus Christ. God works mysterious ways. No, you punch the fucking clock. You're gonna eventually get money. Not today. You might not get it today. It might be in the future and the work you guys putting in right now, the building blocks. Yeah. So when you do get to that level, you don't fall upon them. I don't even know what the folks going out. And look at me, I did the work and I fall apart at the saints. I did the work. I wrote on the ground bus. I got crabs. Anyway, I wanna thank you don't they come on the show, brother, San Jose will see us, and I wanna thank the fuck in the Christ killer always being here and being the savage invent continuing his comedy quest. But before we leave on talk to you about a few things. I write things you could do space. All right. I mean, they never you could turn your cool idea into a new website. You can showcase your work. You could blog a published content. 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You know, I know you're trying I love you. Help was one of get yourself a kettle bell. Go get some shrimp. Tech sport. Go gets shrimp. Teke Munem go get some supplements from on it. Oughta is the leader in supplements. Whether it's you hear me talk about the shrimp, tech sport. Why because the mushrooms give you more oxygen to your lungs when you're working that listen, I don't know why I'm telling you, I drop one of those before I go to Jerusalem flipping motherfuckers. Like Joe Joe morality, you know, what I'm saying. Number two, you fly a lot there's germs everywhere. You gotta go which room tech a mute. Why? So you don't walk around with a little Japanese guy when a mask on your face at the app or Donets aggravation be a fucking man eat that their germs. You know what I'm saying? So what I'm saying to you is on the way to go. I love on it. You say Joe? What do you like about it? I love the alphabrain. I love the Mexican chocolate protein. 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